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Abzsafado
09-29-10, 14:56
Believe it or not but for the last two nights there appeared to be a tupperware party being held in MP!!!! Well not a party strictly speaking, they weren't selling the stuff but were having some sort of meeting.
There were more couples and families than garotas, even the street vendors appear to have disappeared.

Arjay
09-29-10, 17:03
It sounds like we agree that it has not been heavy in Copacabana in the past. Of course there is a market, but mostly in Gloria from my experience. But maybe that is changing. Maybe they have overrun Balcony. I've gotta go check that out. That would be a sight to see.

Ronaldo got fooled? Now that is a good story.How do you know Ronaldo got fooled? Maybe he was stalking trannies and they decided to rob him instead.

Fronyl
09-29-10, 22:04
With Help closed, everyone is asking where the action is. But as many already know, there are dozens of little casas all over the place, often in those office buildings all through Copacabana.

Unfortunately, they can be hard to find, but often when walking on Atlantica you'll encounter a tout who will offer to show you the places. While I usually recommend avoiding touts, it may be worth it to throw some Reals his way, as he'll talk you to places you didn't know existed, and where the girls are WAAAAY cheaper than the old Help girls.I guess no one can complain about the possibilities in Rio in regards to GDP`s, but the main problem is the lack of a new Help. It is not so much about the action, which is almost endlessly there, but the "feeling" that Help gave. I myself was there more for the "circus" than the girls, even though I at times brought home company if she was beautiful and appealing enough

Henry R
09-30-10, 05:57
I guess no one can complain about the possibilities in Rio in regards to GDP`s, but the main problem is the lack of a new Help. It is not so much about the action, which is almost endlessly there, but the "feeling" that Help gave. I myself was there more for the "circus" than the girls, even though I at times brought home company if she was beautiful and appealing enoughFronyl:

I agree with you 100 percent! I will totally miss that kind of atmosphere!

Also, to anyone, I would like to know what is the deal on the small upstairs disco next door to Balcony Bar (just west of it). I have never been there, but read somewhere that many Help girls are going there. Any info? Worth going to?

Member #4243
09-30-10, 08:39
Can someone provide me with a website address or link to Centaurus so I can get a better idea of what it is all about? Do they have the highest percentage of white brazilian beauties here compared to other clubs. Are there any pictures of these girls anywhere on the net? On a seperate note are there are any discrimination on entrance to foreigners at centaurus as I am of middleeastern parents, but grew up in england? Finally regarding escort agencies can anyone give some names of agencies with the most beautiful brazilian girls especially brazilian white?

Thanks for all help,

Mohab

Bubba Boy
09-30-10, 09:01
Fronyl:

I agree with you 100 percent!! I will totally miss that kind of atmosphere!

Also, to anyone, I would like to know what is the deal on the small upstairs disco next door to Balcony Bar (just west of it). I have never been there, but read somewhere that many Help girls are going there. Any info? Worth going to?

The little bar you refer to is very sad, had promise but is just sad.

Jsm1393
09-30-10, 21:23
I guess no one can complain about the possibilities in Rio in regards to GDP`s, but the main problem is the lack of a new Help. It is not so much about the action, which is almost endlessly there, but the "feeling" that Help gave. I myself was there more for the "circus" than the girls, even though I at times brought home company if she was beautiful and appealing enoughFortaleza has a nice troika of places where most of the action takes place - Forro Mambo, Cafe del Mar, Club Europa (with 11pm-1am pregame at Zipi Bar) - that, to me, was even better for "feel" than Help. So much so that I'm working Fortaleza back into my itinerary for a trip in Nov/Dec.

Bijou summary (he was there with me): http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1066425&postcount=1093

My summary: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1066898&postcount=1094

Also look for a few reports before my summary for some pics of a few of the girls I took back.

Bubba Boy
09-30-10, 23:26
Can someone provide me with a website address or link to Centaurus so I can get a better idea of what it is all about? Do they have the highest percentage of white brazilian beauties here compared to other clubs. Are there any pictures of these girls anywhere on the net? On a seperate note are there are any discrimination on entrance to foreigners at centaurus as I am of middleeastern parents, but grew up in england? Finally regarding escort agencies can anyone give some names of agencies with the most beautiful brazilian girls especially brazilian white?

Thanks for all help,

Mohab

Centaurus is my least favourite place in Rio, hence I am biased. It could be argued that the look that is dominant at Cent is that of white brazilian. They have less darker skinned girls than other places. Hence if you are into that it would be worth checking out. However it is the most expensive terma in Rio. There is no website with pictures of the girls that are up to date. Just go there. The last time I was there there was one hot chick, the rest were very ordinary, never seen it as bad, however that talent comes and goes.

Entrance R$120
Girl + room 40 minuites R$330
Total without drinks is going to be R$450 minimum.

It is located in Ipanema ( rua canning rua = street) on the border with Copacabana. Google maps is great.

They descriminate against all foreigners, just not middle eastern dudes. In fact being of middle eastern appearance you will look more Brazilian than your average foreigner, hence this could be to your advantage. They descriminate by charging foreigners R$20 more than locals. They also try and charge you the full R$450 up front, but you can just pay the R$120, but need to ask. All the staff at the reception speak excellent Englsih, probably better English than mine. The guy that has been there forever also speaks Spanish and passable French & Italian

General cent info: The girls are very very aggressive as instructed by management, they will bug you like flys on shit.

Escort agencies are a lottery in any country.

Fred100
09-30-10, 23:52
Can someone provide me with a website address or link to Centaurus so I can get a better idea of what it is all about? Do they have the highest percentage of white brazilian beauties here compared to other clubs. Are there any pictures of these girls anywhere on the net? On a seperate note are there are any discrimination on entrance to foreigners at centaurus as I am of middleeastern parents, but grew up in england? Finally regarding escort agencies can anyone give some names of agencies with the most beautiful brazilian girls especially brazilian white?

Thanks for all help,

MohabCentaurus management are strictly cold business when it comes to the tourist trade. I'm a Brit but speak Portuguese, they think I am Brazilian. I pay less for entrance and only pay when leaving. I have never understood why Gringos use this place when there are similar places that treat you with more respect and charge less.

BootyTapper
10-01-10, 00:48
Fronyl:

I agree with you 100 percent! I will totally miss that kind of atmosphere!

Also, to anyone, I would like to know what is the deal on the small upstairs disco next door to Balcony Bar (just west of it). I have never been there, but read somewhere that many Help girls are going there. Any info? Worth going to?

I second all your motions, that place was legendary! There have been talks of a replacement, but they are just talk. Add to that the current goverment does not look like they want that atmosphere on Copa or anywhere else again.

BootyTapper
10-01-10, 00:55
Boa Noche my fellow mongers!
I was reading O Dia today and came across a very interesting article. Google today added the "street view" feature to some major Brasilian cities. Rio and Sao Paulo are there for sure. I read the article at work and had to test it immediately, I wanted to see the time period of the pics. I put the "yellow man" on Atlantica Ave right between MP and where Help was. I panned around and yes they show Help in the pics, so I know the pics are at least 2 years old, but for us mongers its now good to have a visual of what we are looking for. I am going to use this feature a lot in Centro and Sao Paulo, check it out on your Google Maps or Earth and Happy Mongering.

Daniel69
10-01-10, 01:18
Fronyl:

Also, to anyone, I would like to know what is the deal on the small upstairs disco next door to Balcony Bar (just west of it). I have never been there, but read somewhere that many Help girls are going there. Any info? Worth going to?It's called Dolce Vita's. The awesome DJ from Help (I forget his name now), some of the staff, and most of the quality Help girls took over the joint right after Help closed. I was there the whole month of Janeiro and Fevereiro and saw it all transpire before my eyes

The place is small, no doubt, and nothing gets started until midnight so don't even try to go earlier. But it's open 'til 4-5am so adjust your schedule accordingly! Once it kicks in it's like Help concentrated into 40 square meters. I love it, girls will grind and dance with you everywhere, there are naked strippers in cages, and a little roped in VIP section in the back if you want to get a table and chill out with friends. This past February, just before Carnaval, they had some outrageously beautiful Samba girls dancing some nights between 2-3am and the place went nuts. I love the fact the old DJ from help spins there because he really gets the girls going. And the ladies are TOP QUALITY (in my opinion, and I am picky). You'll see a lot of high-end Terma girls show up, as well as 'amateur' talent.

The next "super club" that is supposedly in the works is 'La Meridian' but I haven't heard anything new about it since my last trip. The good news is, I'm leaving in 5 days for Rio and spending the entire Winter (their Summer) this trip so I'll know first hand in a week or two where all the action is at. This will be my 5th trip in 2 years (2. 5 when I'm done). I've been to almost every Terma in Rio (my favorites are 4x4 and L'Uomo, hands down) but I prefer to pick up girls at the clubs and bring them back to my apartment for the night. And I've never, knock wood (pun intended), had a single problem at my apartment w/a girl. Wait, that's not true, Bianca tried to burn the place down my 2nd trip, but that's just Bianca. She's a lot of fun if you give her EXACTLY what she asks for. No negotiating. LOL. She's worth it though, at least once.

Daniel69
10-01-10, 01:31
The little bar you refer to is very sad, had promise but is just sad.Hey BB,

I just want to say MUITO OBRIGADO for your report! OMG, you are the man! I remember my first trip back in Sep '08, I brought a print-out of the report on the plane with me and read it start to finish like chicks read romance novels! Lofl

So Dolce Vita's is sad now huh? I was there back in Jan/Fev when it took off after Help closed. I thought it was great for what it was worth. What's the story with La Meridian? And have you been to Cafe del Mar on Av Atlantica, if so, is it any good? One of mi amigos who used to work at DV's works there now and told me to stop in.

Sperto
10-01-10, 12:30
It's called Dolce Vita's... And the ladies are TOP QUALITY (in my opinion, and I am picky).
If the Dolce Vita girls are top quality they cannot have anything in commun with the Balcony girls. Funny how two next-door places can have such different quality of the girls...

Maybe I should visit Dolce Vita? The last time I sat my foot in that place it was a really bad strip-club, Holiday. It can't be worse than Holiday.

Sperto
10-01-10, 15:45
Google today added the "street view" feature to some major Brasilian cities.
Nice!
Even Vila Mimosa has a street view (search:rua sotero dos reis rio de janeiro). The view is from daytime so the action is very slow. Only a few pro's hanging around.

I guess this street view can be handy for those first-time visitors to VM who feels scared of visiting the Shangri-La of Rio.

Bubba Boy
10-01-10, 16:27
RE: Club above Balcony. When it first started it was ok, a lot of run off from Help. I have been there twice in the last 2 months and it sucked --- badly!

Anyone been there like last week?

Fatkatrio
10-01-10, 20:06
Fortaleza has a nice troika of places where most of the action takes place - Forro Mambo, Cafe del Mar, Club Europa (with 11pm-1am pregame at Zipi Bar) - that, to me, was even better for "feel" than Help. So much so that I'm working Fortaleza back into my itinerary for a trip in Nov/Dec.I have been to fortaleza several times and it is no Rio in terms of quality of women. Its like a different world. No asses and little to no english skills. I speak portuguese well, but the average monger will have some trouble anywhere north of Salvador. Yes it's worth a visit, but not the answer to help woes in my opinion.

Bravo
10-02-10, 01:05
RE: Club above Balcony. When it first started it was ok, a lot of run off from Help. I have been there twice in the last 2 months and it sucked --- badly!

Anyone been there like last week?


I am sure it was outstanding right after Help closed. I was in DV 3 weeks ago and it sucks, balcony sucks, in fact, the whole Copa scene sucks!

Daniel69
10-02-10, 03:23
Boa Noche my fellow mongers!

I was reading O Dia today and came across a very interesting article. Google today added the "street view" feature to some major Brasilian cities."Yesterday marked the launch of Google Street View in Brazil, and it doesn’t look like everything went as well as the company probably would have liked. Not only did the Google Street View vehicle capture a couple of dead bodies on the side of one road, but it’s actually the second image to show such a scene in Brazil. While this isn’t the first time a dead body has shown up in a Google Street View sweep, that previous time had a happy ending, where the body turned out to be a girl that was simply playing a prank. That doesn’t seem to be the case this time around..."

Full Story: http://www.slashgear.com/google-street-view-captures-dead-body-on-brazilian-street-01105609/#entrycontent

Henry R
10-02-10, 04:15
[QUOTE=Jd Garbanzo]Fortaleza has a nice troika of places where most of the action takes place - Forro Mambo, Cafe del Mar, Club Europa (with 11pm-1am pregame at Zipi Bar) - that, to me, was even better for "feel" than Help. So much so that I'm working Fortaleza back into my itinerary for a trip in Nov/Dec.


Jd: (and to others who will be there)

I will be in Fortaleza Nov 20 - Nov 26. PM if interested in getting together for a drink.

Allforrio
10-02-10, 13:33
I am sure it was outstanding right after Help closed. I was in DV 3 weeks ago and it sucks, balcony sucks, in fact, the whole Copa scene sucks!Its more to Rio than just copa

Bravo
10-02-10, 17:37
Its more to Rio than just copa

And your point is?

I was responding to a question about Balcony and Copa, not sure what your response was in reference to.

Sperto
10-02-10, 23:55
Ex-Méridien/Iberostar is being renovated for quite a long time. Why on earth would Iberostar be planning to open a club gathered to gringos and putas?
Help is gone (no loss at all) and won't have any real substitute.

Rio Bob
10-03-10, 15:09
Ex-Méridien/Iberostar is being renovated for quite a long time. Why on earth would Iberostar be planning to open a club gathered to gringos and putas?
Help is gone (no loss at all) and won't have any real substitute.


Sperto the latest rumor was that Iberostar was no longer involved with this project and the new rumor was as follows but I don't think it holds much water either, seems like a long shot but I hope I'm wrong:


Here is my pure conjecture on the future venue for former Help customers.

Note: See previous photo progress at post #3610 in this thread.

For you nostalgia buffs, Help will soon be just a hole in the ground. These pics are from 03/24/10. The odds on the possibility of a reemergence at the Meridian are improving. In May 2009, the Meridian was purchased from the former owner, PREVI, the employee pension fund of the Bank of Brasil by the Windsor Hotel group. The Windsor group is controlled by Sr. José Oreiro Campos, an ex-pat Spaniard who is a former owner of two bingo parlors and has a controlling interest in several hotels in Rio. He also is an owner of ten Rio restaurants and, had a controlling interest in the former discotheque Help. The group bought the Meridien for R$ 170 million, paying installments for 60 months. The group made a down payment of R$ 25 millions, for the purchase on 27 May, 2009. A progress payment of R$ 10 millions is due on 27 of March of 2010. From 27 January, 2011 Windsor will pay 25 installments of R$ 2.7 millions, and other 15 of R$ 4.5 millions, corrected by the IGPM (market price index) plus 8% annual interest. The initial cash flow is consistent with the sale of Help.

Under an agreement dating back to the 1970s when the Meridian was constructed to a height which exceeded building limits for Copacabana there was an agreement with the Prefeitura of Rio de Janeiro that it would operate solely as a hotel. There were numerous proposals for mixed use of the building as offices, condominiums and hotel but the use restriction seemed to prohibit alternative businesses from operating in the facility. It is possible that Sr. Oreiro was successful in negotiating relief from this restriction in exchange for the timely demise of Help in 2009. In the huge edifice of the ex-Meridian building there is plenty of room for a new discotheque to open under the mantle of the Windsor Hotel group. Even without relief from the building use restriction, the hotel may operate a ballroom and convention space.

Help may not reemerge under its original name but Sr. Oreiro knows what sells and how to package his products.

Lex Lector
10-03-10, 17:16
RE: Club above Balcony. When it first started it was ok, a lot of run off from Help. I have been there twice in the last 2 months and it sucked --- badly!

Anyone been there like last week?Yeah I was there. Probably 30-50 GDPs, but 50-60% were old and tired. 20 % were doable, and 3-4 real cuties. Personally I am not here for "doable" but go for the cuties, so while I did found company nor was there a great selection if out for the jaw-droppers.

Daniel69
10-03-10, 17:36
Ex-Méridien/Iberostar is being renovated for quite a long time. Why on earth would Iberostar be planning to open a club gathered to gringos and putas?
Ummm. To fill the ginormous void left by Help. Apparently gringos and putas go well together so there's a huge market for it. Robing up at Termas is too contrived IMHO, I like the roll playing that goes on in the clubs (and my apartment). Bring on the next Help I say.

Daniel69
10-03-10, 18:22
Sperto the latest rumor was that Iberostar was no longer involved with this project and the new rumor was as follows but I don't think it holds much water either, seems like a long shot but I hope I'm wrong:I heard the same thing (minus the details Poucolouco provided) from a reliable source about the Spaniard buying Le Méridien and turning it into a super club/hotel with multiple clubs on different floors. I think all of this was planned before Rio won the bid to host the Olympics though, because Le Méridien is directly across from the future Beach Volleyball tournament, and Garotas de programa don't suit well with family crowds.

Check out http://www.RiOlympico.com for a presentation of the upcoming Olympics and you'll see the impact it's going to have on Copacabana, and especially where Le Méridien is.

It's too bad sex isn't considered a sport.

Jsm1393
10-03-10, 22:47
I have been to fortaleza several times and it is no Rio in terms of quality of women. Its like a different world. No asses and little to no english skills. I speak portuguese well, but the average monger will have some trouble anywhere north of Salvador. Yes it's worth a visit, but not the answer to help woes in my opinion.I agree that Rio women are much higher quality, in general, but the price is also 2-3x. I also don't speak Portuguese at all, but got by on Spanish (spoken slowly) and body language. I'll be in Rio for a few days ahead of getting back to Fortaleza, and I'm looking forward to hitting it with some amazing hotties.

Dickweed780
10-04-10, 22:09
Hi I was at Luomo four months ago and found out that my best barmen (Barry) was fired because of food now luomo has a new barman called carlos he is a sh#t barman he can not make any drinks and does not now how to serve people, then we have peter that is f##$cking prick he was rude to me he telled me that I am a jerk.

Dick

Henry R
10-05-10, 06:44
I have been to fortaleza several times and it is no Rio in terms of quality of women. Its like a different world. No asses and little to no english skills. I speak portuguese well, but the average monger will have some trouble anywhere north of Salvador. Yes it's worth a visit, but not the answer to help woes in my opinion.

It's true less English is spoken up north than in Rio. But let's face it, the programa girls in Rio don't speak much English either. Also, the girls in Fortaleza are not as bad looking as posters are making them out to be. I never hear any of the loads of tourists in Fortaleza complaining about the looks of the girls in Fort. I was in Cafe del Mar, in Iracema, my last nite in Fort in 2008, and the quality of the babes was amazing. There were some lookers in the other Iracema clubs too, but nothing like what I saw that nite at Cafe del Mar.
And Cafe del Mar babes that night had lots of variety: light ones, dark ones, blonds, brunettes, short, tall, etc.

Eric Cartman
10-05-10, 20:52
Well it's been 4 days since I landed in Rio to start my business. And I've been working the whole time. My plans to hit 4x4 on Monday night were waylaid by staying at our attorney's offices until 11.30pm. Fun times. The good news about endless bureaucracy in Brazil is that it is a barrier to entry :)

Anyway, hoje had a 2 hour afternoon session with Tammy Moricet of Karla's Models.

http://www.karlamodels.net/principal.html

A friend recommended her (although he later withdrew his reccy after reading some more of her reivews, to be fair) and in those pics on the Karla's site she has a crackin' body, so I'm like why not. After all I've been in Rio for 4 days entirely pussy-free, since landing last Friday. So it's time.

Called up Karla's at 1.20pm and a woman answers who speaks no English. I talk to her in Porto and set up Tammy for 2.30pm. (Later, when Tammy shows me the book from karla's I laugh at the cards that say "English Spoken" -- she smiles and says they lie lol). Receptionist clearly covers the pricing -- R$120 for 2 hours plus R$25 for taxi each way, so total R$170 (about $100 USD these days, or maybe more).

Tammy shows up right on time. She's pleasant but not super passionate. We chat a bit, she showers up, and we get to business. She's a light kisser, and a bit of a tip-swabber (BBBJ), but hey it's been 4 days pussy-free. The good news is she knows how to work her Carioca hips. Did 2 rounds in about 1hr 30mins, and then let her go. Was too tired and the whole experience not passionate enough to make me try for the culo, though she apparently is completa.

All in all a decent experience but I would not repeat with her. FWIW she recommended her colleagues Tabata Sherman and Jamile Cortat, both visible on the Karla's site.

Polvo
10-06-10, 01:25
Gents:

I picked up the October 2010 issue of a German magazine called "Trip" which has "Das Grosse Spezial Rio de Janeiro" - a supplement about Rio.

Now my German is limited to "Is this your tank? Hands up?" and "Do you do pool chemicals as well?", so I am not sure I'm gripping all the data but it talks about a place called:
Nossa Sem Hora on Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, 1144. www.nossasemhora.com.br which is a "nightclub....with amateur-prostitutes". (Never met an amateur one.)

I thought I knew Rio reasonably well but I am blanking on this one. Any ideas - or is it known by another name?

Polvo

Rock Harders
10-06-10, 04:09
Mongers-
Nossa Sem Hora is a regular "boate" that is located on what do you know, Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana. One of my civilian ex girlfriends used to work there as a bartender. It is not a place that caters to Mongers or garotas looking for customers, although like many other bars and nightclubs in Zona Sul (Shenanigans, Melt, Baronetti, Emporio, etc) there are GDP's and semi-GDP's plying their trade from time to time. It is not a place that is popular with tourists so I would recommend sticking to Shenanigan's, Melt, or Emporio if you are looking for GDP action in a non-GDP venue.
Sorte,
Rock Harders

Polvo
10-06-10, 04:29
Mongers-Nossa Sem Hora is a regular "boate" ....Rock Harders

Thanks! Again, ISG knowledge scores over "well researched" reporting!

Polvo

Rio Bob
10-06-10, 16:02
I learned this lesson the hard way today. I had alot of running around i hd to do this week, so i wasnt able to swing by the vs store. Like an idiot i listened to some of the guys on this board who talked about being able to buy vs lotion in duty free for american prices. Do not buy VS in duty free!! you will pay Double the american prices. each bottle was 10-13 dollars a piece! no specials like in the states where you can get 5 botles for 25 bucks!!!

again, do not buy your vs in duty free unless you like throwing your money away!!

A friend of mine asked me to buy her Victoria Secret perfume. I have a lot going on right now and I'm already packed for my upcoming trip. So I shot out to VS store and bought a 2 oz perfume for her and then when I get home I look at my suitcase and holly molly I forgot I'm going carry on and my 1 quart see thru plastic baggy 3-1-1 is fully packed already. Unless I move something out of the plastic bag I will have no room for it and if I just stick it in the suit case I risk losing it and $50 out the window.

My question is how much more expensive is it in the duty free in Rio or the duty free in JFK, anybody know?

Chillibowl
10-06-10, 17:49
A friend of mine asked me to buy her Victoria Secret perfume. I have a lot going on right now and I'm already packed for my upcoming trip. So I shot out to VS store and bought a 2 oz perfume for her and then when I get home I look at my suitcase and holly molly I forgot I'm going carry on and my 1 quart see thru plastic baggy 3-1-1 is fully packed already. Unless I move something out of the plastic bag I will have no room for it and if I just stick it in the suit case I risk losing it and $50 out the window.

My question is how much more expensive is it in the duty free in Rio or the duty free in JFK, anybody know?Just get another plastic baggie. You can have more than one

Poucolouco
10-06-10, 19:24
A friend of mine asked me to buy her Victoria Secret perfume. I have a lot going on right now and I'm already packed for my upcoming trip. So I shot out to VS store and bought a 2 oz perfume for her and then when I get home I look at my suitcase and holly molly I forgot I'm going carry on and my 1 quart see thru plastic baggy 3-1-1 is fully packed already. Unless I move something out of the plastic bag I will have no room for it and if I just stick it in the suit case I risk losing it and $50 out the window.

My question is how much more expensive is it in the duty free in Rio or the duty free in JFK, anybody know?

I can't say for sure about the perfume but the lotions and cremes were exactly the same price as in the US.

Chillibowl
10-06-10, 19:32
Just get another plastic bag / you can have more than one.

Rio Bob
10-06-10, 20:36
Just get another plastic baggie. You can have more than one

Really? This is the first time I'm going carry on with all the new rules about liquids and I read everything on the TSA website and tried to do everything by the book. So you're telling me that if I throw down 2 1 quart plastic bags of liquids/cremes/tooth paste/ cologne, shaving cream,suntan lotion the TSA agents will just wave it through? Happens all the time?

Riofan6
10-06-10, 21:19
Just get another plastic bag / you can have more than one.

Strictly speaking, EACH passenger is allowed ONE 1qt. bag full of 3oz. or less stuff. It might depend on the TSA knucklehead you happen to get looking at your stuff as to whether or not he/she will let you pass with more then one bag.
If the perfume is that important, you might reevaluate some of the other goos and stuff in your bag, leave them at home and source them locally in Rio. After all, toothpaste is pretty much toothpaste and the Sundowner brand sunscreen has always worked well for me.

Hughdad
10-06-10, 21:47
I can't say for sure about the perfume but the lotions and cremes were exactly the same price as in the US.Duty free in Brazil is more expensive. None of those great sale prices going on (3 for $10, 5 for $20, etc.)

VS is like gold down there. My lady uses it to reward her friends that come over and play. She also sells it through a friend's store. I bring down a bunch everytime I go back and forth. Haven't run into any problems yet.

I check two full 70lb bags of essentials everytime I go, plus carry-ons. What is great is I have a friend that has a 4 y/o son and with the opposite seasons I am able to buy clearance clothes for him in the US for the upcoming season in Brazil. I just spent $200 and got tons of shorts, shirts, etc. for him for $3 and $4. That shit is expensive. My friend, his mom, really appreciates it and has cooked many a great meal for me. Over the past year I bought many used games and consoles at Gamestop and become quite a favorite uncle to many kids in my neighborhood in Brazil. I lend their parents the consoles and games. I get free beers, meals, invites over for parties, etc. Organizing a US-style block party when I get back. Nice group of folks in my neighborhood.

Rio Bob
10-06-10, 21:51
Strictly speaking, EACH passenger is allowed ONE 1qt. bag full of 3oz. or less stuff. It might depend on the TSA knucklehead you happen to get looking at your stuff as to whether or not he/she will let you pass with more then one bag.
If the perfume is that important, you might reevaluate some of the other goos and stuff in your bag, leave them at home and source them locally in Rio. After all, toothpaste is pretty much toothpaste and the Sundowner brand sunscreen has always worked well for me.

I already brought the perfume back and found out that terminal 4 in JFK has after security a victoria secret store, so Ill buy it there if I still fell like buying it when I get there.

Things are much more expensive in Brasil and I feel for them that they want things, this is not the only thing I bought, others were just not liguids. Sometimes this request for goods gets out of hand, last year they wanted me to bring in a computer printer cover which was way to big to fit in my suitcase, this never made it. It's always something, The perfume might make and Im sure I'll get a good pounding of flesh out of that.

Rio Bob
10-06-10, 23:26
I already brought the perfume back and found out that terminal 4 in JFK has after security a victoria secret store, so Ill buy it there if I still fell like buying it when I get there.

Things are much more expensive in Brasil and I feel for them that they want things, this is not the only thing I bought, others were just not liguids. Sometimes this request for goods gets out of hand, last year they wanted me to bring in a computer printer cover which was way to big to fit in my suitcase, this never made it. It's always something, The perfume might make and Im sure I'll get a good pounding of flesh out of that.

JFK Terminal 4 (Virgin and Emirates)

Terminal 4 is the only terminal at JFK not run by an airline, but a private consortium that includes the US business arm of Amsterdam Schiphol. As passenger survey after survey shows, the Dutch airport’s commercial team know a thing or two about airport retail and it clearly shows in this $1.4bn redeveloped terminal, which opened back in 2001.

The selection of luxury fashion brands stocked at the six Runway shops dotted around the terminal is particularly impressive. The current line up includes Hugo Boss, Lacoste, Timberland, Ferragamo and Zegna.

Recent store openings include US lingerie chain Victoria’s Secret’s first travel concept outlet. It features a range of travel accessories such as passport holders, luggage tags, sunglasses and key rings, as well as the chain’s usual selection of lingerie. Also relatively new is Ultra Diamonds, the only such store in the airport, selling a wide range of diamond jewellery priced from as low as $70 to more than $10,000.

The selection of restaurants and bars at the terminal has also recently been strengthened with the addition of outlets such as Caviar House & Prunier Seafood Bar, and the Tigin Irish Pub & Restaurant. Those with more carnivorous appetites should head for The Palm Bar & Grille, based on New York’s famous Second Avenue steakhouse, which first opened way back in 1926.

Bravo
10-07-10, 00:33
Sangue Bom, do NOT listen to anyone's advice on the price of VS lotion in duty free in Rio! I fucked up by listening to some of the members of this board and it ended up costing me alot of extra dollars!!

The price of lotion in the duty free in Rio is NOT the same price you can purchase it for in a VS store. And they sure as fuck do not have the "buy 5 items for 20 bucks promotion!!" If you intend on bringing VS down, buy it in a VS store back home and carry it on the plane with you!!

Java Man
10-07-10, 05:23
www.dufry.com

Go to the pre-order page to get prices.

For example:

VS Amber Romance Hydrating Body Lotion 250ml $11USD

http://www.dutyfreedufry.com.br/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=DutyFree%5FPT&category%5Fname=Sa%FAde%20e%20Beleza_Corpo&Page=1&Store%5FName=Sa%FAde%20e%20Beleza

Same lotion will cost you $9USD if you buy it from VS direct:
http://www.victoriassecret.com/ss/Satellite?ProductID=1265311673554&c=Page&cid=1283342268472&pagename=vsdWrapper

Mongmann
10-07-10, 06:12
LMAO! Why don't you just wire them some money while you're at it.

Auriflama
10-07-10, 09:43
I started this in another thread I meant to say Rio to Sao Paulo by bus. Prices on flights to sp for the dates I want are kind of high and landing in Rio works anyway cause I could spend a day or 2 in Rio then on to SP. Whats the average cost round trip. I did try the search for it on this site and could not get the info.

Thanks

Mr Enternational
10-07-10, 16:04
A friend of mine asked me to buy her Victoria Secret perfume. I have a lot going on right now and I'm already packed for my upcoming trip. So I shot out to VS store and bought a 2 oz perfume for her and then when I get home I look at my suitcase and holly molly I forgot I'm going carry on and my 1 quart see thru plastic baggy 3-1-1 is fully packed already. Unless I move something out of the plastic bag I will have no room for it and if I just stick it in the suit case I risk losing it and $50 out the window. Depending on the size of the bottle I would have just put it in my pocket. Glass and plastic won't set off a metal detector. I always bring the nail polish that my mom likes back from Rio and when I go through security there I carry 5 bottles in each of my front pants pockets (sweat pants). My ex-girlfriend did the same when she brought the polish up for my mom. No problems.

Bubba Boy
10-07-10, 16:36
Depending on the size of the bottle I would have just put it in my pocket. Glass and plastic won't set off a metal detector. I always bring the nail polish that my mom likes back from Rio and when I go through security there I carry 5 bottles in each of my front pants pockets (sweat pants). My ex-girlfriend did the same when she brought the polish up for my mom. No problems.

There is a big difference between trying to pass through Rio customs or security and trying the same shit in the US.

I regularly break all kinds of rules when entering or leaving Rio. However, I would not try to pull the same crap on US customs or immigration. The US has 100x better security than Rio and a whole lot less sense of humour if they catch you.

You could play ignorance and just take 2 bags with maybe 150ml of liquids and you will probably get through, if they pick it up it is no big deal. They will just make you dump something. I regularly have more than the 100ml limit, sometimes 200ml, normally it is not a big deal - however I don't conceal it, I just put it all on the tray and if they have a problem they can say something.

If you try and deliberatly conceal crap in your pants and they pick it up you will be in all kinds of crap, possibly face a substantial delay and possible terror charges. Chances of being caught are high as well. Not worth it to try and save a lousy $50.

Mr Enternational
10-07-10, 17:10
There is a big difference between trying to pass through Rio customs or security and trying the same shit in the US.There really is. That is why I always refuse a request to bring something from the USA because I never check a bag.

Exec Talent
10-07-10, 18:49
There is a big difference between trying to pass through Rio customs or security and trying the same shit in the US.
As I was coming through security in the US this time I set off the alarm. I thought it was a pack of gum in my pocket so I took it out and tried again. Alarm still sounded. I then realized I had a couple of condoms in my pocket. Took them out and passed through with no problems.

Oralover
10-07-10, 19:53
I started this in another thread I meant to say Rio to Sao Paulo by bus. Prices on flights to sp for the dates I want are kind of high and landing in Rio works anyway cause I could spend a day or 2 in Rio then on to SP. Whats the average cost round trip. I did try the search for it on this site and could not get the info.

ThanksPrices range from R$69. 50. R$109 depending on the style of bus; ie airconditioning, lay flat seats, etc.

That is the cost each way.

Here are the companies that do the trips.

http://www.autoviacao1001.com.br/
http://www.expressobrasileiro.com/
http://www.itapemirim.com.br/
http://www.expressodosul.com.br/pt/

Hughdad
10-08-10, 12:51
Same lotion will cost you $9USD if you buy it from VS direct:
http://www.victoriassecret.com/ss/Satellite?ProductID=1265311673554&c=Page&cid=1283342268472&pagename=vsdWrapperGo into a VS store and there are always 5 for $20 or 3 for $15 promos going on.

DreamCarnarvon
10-08-10, 22:25
Hello, all,

So today I decided to go to the drug store and buy some viagra. The guy at the counter was first trying to sell me some gingsing stuff, which he says works better than viagra (atleast that's what I think he said as I speak little portuguese). I kindly declinded and so then he went to the back to grab my medication and when he came out he had two boxes of vigamed in his hands. I was dumbfounded at first as I had never heard of the medication but decided to give it a try and bought only one box.

Has anyone on this forum used this medication before? How safe is it is what I really want to know?

Info I've found on google says it a new type of ED drug that works a different pathway than viagra. Some people said it works better than viagra and faster. Supposely it is only sold in brasil. I really want to try it but is a little hesitant.

DreamCarnarvon
10-08-10, 22:30
Prices range from R$69. 50. R$109 depending on the style of bus; ie airconditioning, lay flat seats, etc.

That is the cost each way.

Here are the companies that do the trips.

http://www.autoviacao1001.com.br/
http://www.expressobrasileiro.com/
http://www.itapemirim.com.br/
http://www.expressodosul.com.br/pt/When I went to SP last year, I used autoviacao1001. It was during a weekday so there were very few people on the bus. Their seats are large and comfy and they give you a pack of snack. They also had some very cheesy us movie playing during the trip. I would recommend them.

Amerioca
10-09-10, 06:08
Yeah I was there. Probably 30-50 GDPs, but 50-60% were old and tired. 20 % were doable, and 3-4 real cuties. Personally I am not here for "doable" but go for the cuties, so while I did found company nor was there a great selection if out for the jaw-droppers.

Three days ago, I was at DV. The doable selection was very limited, although the f/m ratio was good. Man, the action has deteriorated in Zona Sul.

Perkele
10-09-10, 12:11
When I went to SP last year, I used autoviacao1001. It was during a weekday so there were very few people on the bus. Their seats are large and comfy and they give you a pack of snack. They also had some very cheesy us movie playing during the trip. I would recommend them.

Well, sad to infrom that the cheaper tickets do not include even water anymore. Only the tickets closer to 100R$ include snack (chocolate bar and water). Before all buses had snacks.

Also GOL has some flights very cheap. Latest was fly to SP with normal price and return for 10R$. If you know what to do you'll easily fly from Rio to SP and back for 100 - 150R$.

Anyway I prefer airplane over bus anytime.

Exec Talent
10-09-10, 16:02
Sangue Bom, do NOT listen to anyone's advice on the price of VS lotion in duty free in Rio! I fucked up by listening to some of the members of this board and it ended up costing me alot of extra dollars!!

The price of lotion in the duty free in Rio is NOT the same price you can purchase it for in a VS store. And they sure as fuck do not have the "buy 5 items for 20 bucks promotion!!" If you intend on bringing VS down, buy it in a VS store back home and carry it on the plane with you!!
It used to be we had a few guys here who liked to embellish and exaggerate but lately this forum is filled with misinformation from guys dying to be recognized as a "Rio Expert." It has gotten to the point where guys who really do have something to offer, don’t post.

Wonderguy
10-11-10, 01:41
I have never been to Rio, but I'm going in a couple of weeks, and I'm well excited. Reading up on the scene I keep coming across a disco named HELP. I read that it's one of the easier places to pick up pros and semipros. But now I've read somewhere also that it has closed. Is that correct? and if, where have all these girls gone?

Thanks in advance!

Samy69
10-11-10, 09:49
Planning a visit to Rio in mid of November for one week and searching a bit through the net. I came across

http://www.ayanneriomodels.com/index2.htm#
www.hotside.com.br
www.riosexsite.net

I wonder if the pics are real, especially at ayanneriomodels

Prices looks like flying hi.

Pattaya would e better decision but bought the ticket. Can't give up anymore. Hope I don't feel sorry for my decision.

See you there.

Frederick1
10-12-10, 02:41
Hey Mks123,

I am in Rio this weekend as well. Similar background to you. I know Rio a bit from previous visits; no Portuguese but I have a little Spanish, and that gets me far enough. I am up for connecting if you get this message - I tried to send you a Private Message, but it did not go through. Drop me a line.


Will be in Rio. First time. Don't speak Portuguese. Late 30s but in good shape and look young. Have lots of recommendations for places to visit from previous travelers but looking for a wingman, ideally one with some Portuguese:) Trying to arrange accomodation with Americoa but I might stay in a hotel as well.

Anyone else gonna be there and in a similar situation?

Cheers!

Member #3439
10-12-10, 04:23
I wonder if the pics are real, especially at ayanneriomodels

Prices looks like flying hi.

Pattaya would be better decision but bought the ticket. Can't give up anymore. Hope I don't feel sorry for my decision.


Maybe not, but don't less that stress you out. You can find equally good looking girls at BA85 or VM for only about a Real/minute if you climb/walk enough. I found 2 such girls at BA85 and 1 in VM on my trip a couple months ago. Club Flórida is also a good bet because you can find some freaky girls there for cheap. The thread contains a wealth of info on these places, check it out before going. -pp

Bubba Boy
10-12-10, 17:47
http://www.ayanneriomodels.com/index2.htm#

I did a quick search of this agency and came to the conclusion that it is probably not an agency you want to call. Photos most likely fake. Certainly not a popular agency, on guianet only had 3 reviews in 3 years, 2 bad and one good.

You really need to know what you are doing before you call an agency in Rio. Most are fake bait and switch jobs aimed at scalping tourists.

Karlas is a good cheap agency, been around for years, mostly positive reviews and cheap! http://www.karlamodels.net/ Reviews on the brazilian boards are 75% positive, 100's of reviews.

VIP is very hit and miss, but if you want to roll the dice maybe an option.
http://www.barravipsrio.com/home.php Reviews on the brazialian boards are 50% positive and 50% negative. There are but a few agencies in Rio that have greater than 50% positive reviews.

Rio is a inhouse kind of place. Hit the pavement and I will guarantee you will find something way better and cheaper.

Bubba Boy
10-12-10, 21:11
got caught on nossa senhora (1 bloke down from sequeira campos) waiting for a bus with only r$50 notes on me. was next door to miami peep, hadn't been in there for ages. go in with my r$50 and ask for 10 fichas (tokens). the fucker gives me r$30 in change despite very clearly marked prices of r$1 per ficha. tell him he's an asshole and he gives me the rest of my change.

go upstairs and look for the pictures of whos on. they have maybe 8 photos, 7 less than attractive girls and 1 cutey. of course when i enquire if she is there she is not. anyway, go to one of the booths and there is an ugly chic dancing around. most booths are full, through the plastic you can see other guys from the shoulder up. you can see them way to clearly, obviuosly jerking off judging by their shoulders moving up and down. i go and look at the private booth (one on one), there is a big plastic window that seperates you from the girl, she used to do a show for you and you could slip you hand in there to touch. i think with the new booths you can no longer touch her.

so i leave having spent r$1, resold my left overs to the asshold at the entrance jump on my bus and am on my way.

Bizzie
10-13-10, 03:47
I have been away for a while and checked in here to see what's up before booking my trip.
Frankly, this is depressing! Too much BS from people who know very little about Rio.
Hey guys, (i.e. Christopher, Sperto, ET, Bubba), I know you have some better info to share with tourists like me.
Thanks.
B.
PS. I am running low on pictures!

Samytr
10-13-10, 18:28
I did a quick search of this agency and came to the conclusion that it is probably not an agency you want to call. Photos most likely fake. Certainly not a popular agency, on guianet only had 3 reviews in 3 years, 2 bad and one good.

You really need to know what you are doing before you call an agency in Rio. Most are fake bait and switch jobs aimed at scalping tourists.

Karlas is a good cheap agency, been around for years, mostly positive reviews and cheap! http://www.karlamodels.net/ Reviews on the brazilian boards are 75% positive, 100's of reviews.

VIP is very hit and miss, but if you want to roll the dice maybe an option.
http://www.barravipsrio.com/home.php Reviews on the brazialian boards are 50% positive and 50% negative. There are but a few agencies in Rio that have greater than 50% positive reviews.

Rio is a inhouse kind of place. Hit the pavement and I will guarantee you will find something way better and cheaper.Thank you very much BubbaBoy for helpful info on sites.

The problem is that I prefer blondes or whites mostly. When I call Karlas or Barra, I can never be sure if they will send me a blond/white. I would prefer to see real pics :( So need a site wit REAL ONES :)

Huh, first time (trip) looks difficult for from a distance.

Bravo
10-14-10, 01:07
Thank you very much BubbaBoy for helpful info on sites.

The problem is that I prefer blondes or whites mostly. When I call Karlas or Barra, I can never be sure if they will send me a blond/white. I would prefer to see real pics :( So need a site wit REAL ONES :)

Huh, first time (trip) looks difficult for from a distance.


Sometimes I just dont understand some monger's logic. You prefer blond, white girls? You realise you are headed to the country with the largest population of black people in the world, right? (with exception of Nigeria, I think). Thats like me going to China and saying I prefer women with 45 inch asses! If you love white girls so much, why not go to France or Sweden? I am not flaming you, its an honest question.

Euro100
10-14-10, 02:52
i agree: if you look for white blondes, brazil is not where you need to go. france, btw, is not the right destination, either. the p4p scene there really truly sucks (and i don't mean bjs :(). germany is where you want to go for blond white women. more specific, head for an fkk in germany. (german fkks have their own section on this board, and for good reasons!). most girls working at a german fkk, btw, originate from eastern europe.

ok, if to have to go to rio and still want to experience a blonde, here is a suggestion: [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) at l'uomo. excellent choice! as white and as blond as they come. (best brazilian in a german fkk award, on the other hand, goes to leonie at schieferhof.)

euro (who misses the incredible selection of mulattas in rio, just as he prepares to head for germany :))

LatinaLover#1
10-14-10, 07:04
Sangue Bom, do NOT listen to anyone's advice on the price of VS lotion in duty free in Rio! I fucked up by listening to some of the members of this board and it ended up costing me alot of extra dollars!!

The price of lotion in the duty free in Rio is NOT the same price you can purchase it for in a VS store. And they sure as fuck do not have the "buy 5 items for 20 bucks promotion!!" If you intend on bringing VS down, buy it in a VS store back home and carry it on the plane with you!!

VS lotion is way more in DF Rio, like 40r a bottle.. I always buy the 6 for $30 and 1 free here in the US and throw them in my checked bag before leaving for Rio. That, and Nikes on special for $40, lancombe make up kit for about $40.. I give them away as a tip if the session was great or if I want them to come back for an all night. Many times I don't pay any cash at all, just some stuff they want. Once I had 2 girls who live in the apartment below me fighting over the stuff and both of them sneaking up to my apt to fuck me for some of the shit I brought with me and making me promise to hold some of the stuff for her until tomorrow and don't give it to the other girl. It was great.

Exec Talent
10-14-10, 20:22
The Rio Bureau of Tourism has published some really nice compact guides to the city. Both the Rio Legal and Rio Pocket Guides can be obtained at the tourism kiosk on Copacabana Beach or at the tourism offices.

http://www.rioguiaoficial.com.br/en/informacoes/

The main site is:
http://www.rioguiaoficial.com.br/en/

where you also can download a PDF of the latest complete Rio Guide.

Samytr
10-14-10, 20:38
Sometimes I just dont understand some monger's logic. You prefer blond, white girls? You realise you are headed to the country with the largest population of black people in the world, right? (with exception of Nigeria, I think). Thats like me going to China and saying I prefer women with 45 inch asses! If you love white girls so much, why not go to France or Sweden? I am not flaming you, its an honest question.Would like to correct my words:

" I don't prefer blacks" Brunettes are ok.

But I prefer blondes.

Been to lots of countries and want to visit Brazil and give a try.

Just want to indicate my preferences, that's it.

Thanks for your understanding.

Samytr
10-14-10, 20:45
i agree: if you look for white blondes, brazil is not where you need to go. france, btw, is not the right destination, either. the p4p scene there really truly sucks (and i don't mean bjs). germany is where you want to go for blond white women. more specific, head for an fkk in germany. (german fkks have their own section on this board, and for good reasons!). most girls working at a german fkk, btw, originate from eastern europe.

ok, if to have to go to rio and still want to experience a blonde, here is a suggestion: [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) at l'uomo. excellent choice! as white and as blond as they come. (best brazilian in a german fkk award, on the other hand, goes to leonie at schieferhof.)

euro (who misses the incredible selection of mulattas in rio, just as he prepares to head for germany)sweden is not a right place for mongering. ukraine, russia, china better.

i personally met to leonie just 10 days ago.

a romanian girl asked extra 100 euros (like your nick) for something extra, though she was 177 cm tall and extremely beautiful in oase in ger; i responded i am going to fly to a place which all these extras are included-may be i am not right about if they are included.

just want to know where can i find more whites/let's say brunettes than blacks.

i understand l'uomo is an option. when i serach escort sites, i see lots of blondes/whites or i see wrong.

sure will give a try to dark too. in this case i will look for a nice and slender one.

thanks again

Voyajer1
10-15-10, 10:23
For what you are looking for, it is only BR450 to session there and there are plenty white blondes and brunnetes there. The management of the place is real friendly if you are willing to do as they ask and the girls real stunners. I personally won't get caught dead there, but hey, this IS what you are looking for :D

Sweden is not a right place for mongering. Ukraine, Russia, China better.

I personally met to Leonie just 10 days ago.

A Romanian girl asked extra 100 Euros (like your nick) for something extra, though she was 177 cm tall and extremely beautiful in Oase in Ger; I responded I am going to fly to a place which all these extras are included-may be I am not right about if they are included.

Just want to know where can I find more whites/let's say brunettes than blacks.

I understand L'uomo is an option. When I serach escort sites, I see lots of blondes/whites Or I see wrong.

Sure will give a try to dark too. In this case I will look for a nice and slender one.

Thanks again

Bubba Boy
10-15-10, 18:53
The management of the place is real friendly if you are willing to do as they ask and the girls real stunners. I personally won't get caught dead there, but hey, this IS what you are looking for :D

I would be really friendly as well if I was getting paid upfront, including the full cost of banging a girl ,before you have even chosen a girl?. This is the only place in the world that I know of that gets away with this shit.

The quality of girls has also gone way way down hill of late. I have been there 2x in the last 2 months and the quality is just terrible. I can see someone putting up with being treated like scum by the management for extra hot girls, but when their quality is way down you get to see it for what it is.

Samytr
10-15-10, 21:29
For what you are looking for, it is only BR450 to session there and there are plenty white blondes and brunnetes there. The management of the place is real friendly if you are willing to do as they ask and the girls real stunners. I personally won't get caught dead there, but hey, this IS what you are looking for :D"It is ONLY BR450 to session there..."

I will never say again Ukraine and Russia is expensive.

BR 450 one session ! Dark skinned Brazilian Leoni in Germany receives 50 € per session (entry fee is 70).

Ok I want to see Iguazu Falls, that's why I will fly 11 hours.

SlimHoleDrill
10-16-10, 14:05
...

ok, if to have to go to rio and still want to experience a blonde, here is a suggestion: [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) at l'uomo. excellent choice! as white and as blond as they come. ...

actually, she is bleached blond. i talked with her about it one time. her skin is light, but she stays totally out of the sun. i forget now but she told me where her parents we from and it was not the euro ancestry i was expecting. one thing for sure, she looks very white next to everyone else there.

but, yes, centauraus has some real ones. (c'mon, bubba boy, they are not terrible. i was there about 3 weeks ago and there were some stunners for sure. but the 450 and management practices [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off if i think about it.) there are a few gauchas on one of the escort sites, or at least claim to be. i had one from karla models and she was for real. actually, anne from rb 185 is for real too, i think. rio is full of bleach blonds, but not many of the real variety. that is fine with me...

the best place in the world to find real blonds is amsterdam, imho. you get the dutch girls plus polish and others from eastern europe and fsu. still gotta check the pubes to know for sure. that's not all bad either.

personally, i can't think of a shade of skin color i don't like when it covers a beautiful babe.

Gfe Finder
10-16-10, 14:53
Thank you very much BubbaBoy for helpful info on sites.

The problem is that I prefer blondes or whites mostly. When I call Karlas or Barra, I can never be sure if they will send me a blond/white. I would prefer to see real pics :( So need a site wit REAL ONES :)

Huh, first time (trip) looks difficult for from a distance.




Sometimes I just dont understand some monger's logic. You prefer blond, white girls? You realise you are headed to the country with the largest population of black people in the world, right? (with exception of Nigeria, I think). Thats like me going to China and saying I prefer women with 45 inch asses! If you love white girls so much, why not go to France or Sweden? I am not flaming you, its an honest question.

Have you considered a trip to the south of Brazil? The percentage of Caucasians is higher there but the P4P scene is admittedly not as good as Rio's.

For example, I was recently in Sao Paulo and as I recall the vast majority of working women who I saw or who were presented to me were white. Their hair was often dyed blonde, though.

Samytr
10-16-10, 17:26
Fellas, best place fOr mulattas?

Termas Etc..

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Aeroporto
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Aquárius
Beach Girls
Black House
Cancun
Caribean Queen
Centaurus
Coquettish
Correia Dutra
Excentric
Jacarepaguá
L´Uomo
La Palace
Monte Carlo
no Centro de Niterói
Rio Antigo
Sol de Ipanema
Solarium
Black and White
Boate Flórida
Buena Vista Club
Café 400
Centro de Lazer MV30
Club 117
Club 29
Copacabana Termas Spa
Paris Café
Phoenix
Só Filé e Cia
Whisqueria Orion Café

VM hands Down! Better quality Cheaper price!Can anyone make a favour and indicate which are open on Saturday and which are open on whole weekend (incl. Sunday).

It will be a helpful info.

Jan 156
10-16-10, 18:22
Have you considered a trip to the south of Brazil? The percentage of Caucasians is higher there but the P4P scene is admittedly not as good as Rio's.

Or even south of Brasil itself. I was going to suggest Buenos Aires - very civilised, nice punting, and lots of ivory whites.

Hughdad
10-16-10, 23:04
VS lotion is way more in DF Rio, like 40r a bottle.. I always buy the 6 for $30 and 1 free here in the US and throw them in my checked bag before leaving for Rio. That, and Nikes on special for $40, lancombe make up kit for about $40.. I give them away as a tip if the session was great or if I want them to come back for an all night. Many times I don't pay any cash at all, just some stuff they want. Once I had 2 girls who live in the apartment below me fighting over the stuff and both of them sneaking up to my apt to fuck me for some of the shit I brought with me and making me promise to hold some of the stuff for her until tomorrow and don't give it to the other girl. It was great.Exactly. Don't know what that guy was getting all worked up about. No misinformation at all. He did PM me once insisting that I don't share any info about VS so not everyone here would think about doing the same thing. Strange, I thought we are here to help each other with info.

But, yeah, the ladies love that stuff and it has a real high value to them. Great, innovative way to stretch the mongering budget. One time in Rio I had a favorite come and spend 4 nights in a week with me for VS lotions and perfumes - and a bottle of Caroline Herrera perfume. She kept some and sold some. And she made me breakfast in bed several times. Pure gold with the right ladies.

Hughdad
10-17-10, 01:33
"It is ONLY BR450 to session there..."

I will never say again Ukraine and Russia is expensive.

BR 450 one session ! Dark skinned Brazilian Leoni in Germany receives 50 € per session (entry fee is 70).

Ok I want to see Iguazu Falls, that's why I will fly 11 hours.Dude,

Be open to new experiences and leave the bigoted leanings of your country behind. There is a rainbow of delights in Brazil. I was not a big ass kind of guy until a few outrageous performances with some apple bottom delights. Now I can go ride any shaped ass put in front of me. I used to prefer blondes but now live with a lovely mulatta beauty who rocks my world sexually, intellectually and spiritually day in and day out. Tell Leoni to come back home to where she is appreciated.

Rio Bob
10-17-10, 03:22
Yep same thing happened to me a couple years ago when flying from GRU to Porto Alegre. I just got off an international flight with the carry on I always travel with and the counter-person made me check it as it was over the 11.5 pound limit.

Well, flew down on Tam, have to say for all the airlines I have taken to Brasil recently, they do a good job.

For example last March I flew US air Business class but I just flew Tam coach. The food was better on Tam, the service was better on Tam and the flight attendents on US Air were like old cleaning ladies with no personality. The flight attendents on TAM were all beautful and young, nice touch. Of couse the seating on US Air was better but nothing is perfect, I'll do them again. And they didn't make any noise about my luggage.

I broke the ice with Luana from Star Cris, 180 reais 2 hours, She was a woman, tall big bunda and a full morena, had sex with her like a hot girl I was out on a date with for the first time who liked me, it was great. She does this part time only on weekends as she is married and lives 2 hours outside of zona sul.

Tonight I'm going to 2a2 the swing club in Copacabana, gotta keep the energy level up considering it's the first day and already shot 2 bullets but it's Saturday night in Rio and I don't get too many of those.

Later.

The Watcher
10-17-10, 16:01
He did PM me once insisting that I don't share any info about VS so not everyone here would think about doing the same thing. Strange, I thought we are here to help each other with info.


I completely agree with you. I think not wanting to share info is strange; however, I think it is really strange not wanting to share info about the popularity of VS that everyone already knows (at least anyone who has been there or has read this forum).

Hughdad
10-17-10, 17:29
Can anyone make a favour and indicate which are open on Saturday and which are open on whole weekend (incl. Sunday).

It will be a helpful info.How about doing a little heavy lifting yourself pal and read through the archives of past postings here?! All the info you seek is contained here. If you need someone to come and do the fucking for you too - I am sure we can make a suitable arrangement.

Hughdad
10-17-10, 17:37
Huh, first time (trip) looks difficult for from a distance.
ith your close-minded attitude I can almost virtually guarantee you having a difficult and unenjoyable time. Ever hear the terms: "when in Rome", "go with the flow", "love the one you're with", "a port in every storm", "the dark the berry"?

Sperto
10-18-10, 08:23
Vila Mimosa, 1989, when it was located in the Mangue.
It looks quite nice.
Some of the women are propably still working at the current VM. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cUHeXSuVkU

Can anybody tell any good stories from the Mangue? Pelicano?

Tiradentes
10-19-10, 03:53
For what you are looking for, it is only BR450 to session there and there are plenty white blondes and brunnetes there. The management of the place is real friendly if you are willing to do as they ask and the girls real stunners. I personally won't get caught dead there, but hey, this IS what you are looking for :D

FYI to newbies, Voyager is being sarcastic about the friendly centaurus management. As a matter of fact, they are the rudest bunch of brazilians I met in my life, especially the skinny young girl at the entrance . It is like dealing with frenchies. That's the reason I stopped visiting for the last 2 years.

The lady who used to supervise the garotas in the boate has defected to 4x4.

Samy69
10-19-10, 07:16
ith your close-minded attitude I can almost virtually guarantee you having a difficult and unenjoyable time. Ever hear the terms: "when in Rome", "go with the flow", "love the one you're with", "a port in every storm", "the dark the berry"?You don't want to loose time with unexperienced newcomers!

I know a simple solution: "don't answer"

Anyhow, thanks a lot, who answered.

Bubba Boy
10-19-10, 11:36
You don't want to loose time with unexperienced newcomers!

I know a simple solution: "don't answer"

Anyhow, thanks a lot, who answered.

The point being, most of your questions could have been answered by reading up on this forum. You need to show some effort before people are going to help you with the rest. Start off in the reports of distinction section, it is worth reading all

Samy69
10-19-10, 14:40
The point being, most of your questions could have been answered by reading up on this forum. You need to show some effort before people are going to help you with the rest. Start off in the reports of distinction section, it is worth reading allI read most of Rio section and can say I understand 4x4 is not open on weekends.
I couldn't find the rest.

Now know the answer: reports of distinction should be read.

Hughdad
10-19-10, 18:41
I read most of Rio section and can say I understand 4x4 is not open on weekends.

I couldn't find the rest.

Now know the answer: reports of distinction should be read.Yes, that is why they are called "Reports of Distinction".

Wonderguy
10-20-10, 01:46
I keep hearing about this disco called HELP can anybody give me the scoop on that place?

Mr Enternational
10-20-10, 08:22
I keep hearing about this disco called HELP can anybody give me the scoop on that place?Great place. They moved to the new location on the west side over in Barra de Tijuca in January. I haven't been since. It's now too far for most mongers.

Brazil Specialist
10-20-10, 08:35
Thank you very much BubbaBoy for helpful info on sites.

The problem is that I prefer blondes or whites mostly. When I call Karlas or Barra, I can never be sure if they will send me a blond/white. I would prefer to see real pics :( So need a site wit REAL ONES :)

Huh, first time (trip) looks difficult for from a distance.

You want REAL blondes? in Rio? and for decent prices? you will have a real hard time.

Maybe you learn to like REAL mulatas, REAl curly dark hair brown skin. Slim girls without huge asses (but a little bigger bubble butts) you can find, even with white skin but more the dark haired type, or bleach blonde.

I tried to send you a message, but you are not a (paying) member and thus cannot receive PM. Consider paying while you plan your trip, so you can have people contact you. Contact me before you go to Rio. Consider staying at my apartment, I can try to help you finding what you want for lower prices.

What is your problem with karlamodels? That the girls are not real blondes?

When you go to Iguaçu, make sure you go in the rainy season where you have lots of water, not when it is almost dry.

Curitiba is on the way to Iguaçu, has lots of whit white girls and real blondes for decent prices. But a little hard to find your way without portuguese.

Check http://www.acompanhantescuritiba.org/
http://www.classisex.com.br/amodelos.html
http://www.modelovip.com.br/

http://www.starnight.com.br/bruna.html


http://www.gpcuritiba.com/phpBBED/viewtopic.php?t=81&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
Sinal Verde Sexy - Mal Floriano, entre XV e Mal Deodoro [Cen
SINAL VERDE SEXY - www.sinalverdesexy.com.br - 3039-1285
AV. MARECHAL FLORIANO PEIXOTO, 134 3º ANDAR SALA/APTO 403
CENTRO - CURITIBA - PR
(41) 3039-1285
M14 V
www.sinalverdesexy.com.br
Atendimento das 9h as 19h - de 2ª a 6ª

* Custos
30 min R$ 40,00 (+10,00 adicional sem capote)
60 min R$ 60,00

Brazil Specialist
10-20-10, 08:45
Sangue Bom, do NOT listen to anyone's advice on the price of VS lotion in duty free in Rio! I fucked up by listening to some of the members of this board and it ended up costing me alot of extra dollars!!

The price of lotion in the duty free in Rio is NOT the same price you can purchase it for in a VS store. And they sure as fuck do not have the "buy 5 items for 20 bucks promotion!!" If you intend on bringing VS down, buy it in a VS store back home and carry it on the plane with you!!

http://www.dutyfreedufry.com.br/

check duty free prices here.

Sperto
10-20-10, 08:52
Great place. They moved to the new location on the west side over in Barra de Tijuca in January.
Not really a replacement for Help I guess.

RioBob, you're in Rio now. Check it out.

Badtwin
10-20-10, 09:38
The disco HELP has been torn down. It is no more.

Badtwin


I keep hearing about this disco called HELP can anybody give me the scoop on that place?

Rio Bob
10-20-10, 12:28
Not really a replacement for Help I guess.

RioBob, you're in Rio now. Check it out.

I met 2 guys the other day who have been there already. They told me it's owned by the owners of 4x4 and they did a nice job in setting the place up. They also told me that there really wasn't much going on there, it was dead, and maybe 10 girls and 15 guys, they didn't stay long.

I did go to Luomo with these guys on Sunday, it was my first time there, and it’s a fun place. I over did it though, drank too much, was dancing with the girls in the front of the room. Took an hour room with a shower, nice room with a Manera, 20 years old, don't remember her name, as soon as we go into the room she told me to daty her, fun session, fun place, now I've been there.

Like I said before, last night was Tuesday, not much else to do now that Help is closed, went to Balcony bar just to hang out but ended up with this cute sweet girl from Manaus. She told me she likes to watch others have sex and she likes beautiful girls, don't we all. I told her she would be perfect then going to a swing club. She said she had never been, she seems a little inexperienced, hasn't been in Rio long but has lived in Manuas and Fortaleza, so she’s not too jaded yet and quoted me a price of 200 reais, can't beat that.

So tonight I have 3 girls lined up to go to 2A2 swing club and to think I thought I was going to have a problem here getting just one to go with me for a decent price or at all.

I was at 2A2 last Saturday night, place was packed, lots of good looking young couples that seemed married and just came to looks at others screw and just touch a little but not actual screw around with others. I did end up screwing 2 other girls and my girl also who was nuts. I'll go tonight and I think my choice is going to be either the girl I posted pictures of who with heels will be over 6 foot tall, so that will be a novelty, many guys would probably like to fuck her and she is nuts, she told me she wants to masturbate while I am with 2 other girls. Or I take the less experienced more normal girl from last night.

Samy69
10-20-10, 14:21
You want REAL blondes? in Rio? and for decent prices? you will have a real hard time.

Maybe you learn to like REAL mulatas, REAl curly dark hair brown skin. Slim girls without huge asses (but a little bigger bubble butts) you can find, even with white skin but more the dark haired type, or bleach blonde.

I tried to send you a message, but you are not a (paying) member and thus cannot receive PM. Consider paying while you plan your trip, so you can have people contact you. Contact me before you go to Rio. Consider staying at my apartment, I can try to help you finding what you want for lower prices.

What is your problem with karlamodels? That the girls are not real blondes?

When you go to Iguaçu, make sure you go in the rainy season where you have lots of water, not when it is almost dry.

Curitiba is on the way to Iguaçu, has lots of whit white girls and real blondes for decent prices. But a little hard to find your way without portuguese.

Check http://www.acompanhantescuritiba.org/
http://www.classisex.com.br/amodelos.html
http://www.modelovip.com.br/

http://www.starnight.com.br/bruna.html


http://www.gpcuritiba.com/phpBBED/viewtopic.php?t=81&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
Sinal Verde Sexy - Mal Floriano, entre XV e Mal Deodoro [Cen
SINAL VERDE SEXY - www.sinalverdesexy.com.br - 3039-1285
AV. MARECHAL FLORIANO PEIXOTO, 134 3º ANDAR SALA/APTO 403
CENTRO - CURITIBA - PR
(41) 3039-1285
M14 V
www.sinalverdesexy.com.br
Atendimento das 9h as 19h - de 2ª a 6ª

* Custos
30 min R$ 40,00 (+10,00 adicional sem capote)
60 min R$ 60,00Hi Mr. Specialist,

I just said I prefer. I know it is very difficult to find real blondes there and also useless. Better to try whites and brunettes. Even I can try dark skinned ones. I never say never.

About the apartment, I prefer a free apartment which is belongs to me for a perod; not a room inside a flat.

I read how is your room/flat, may be I need more to know. We can discuss about it.

I already sent e-mails for renting an apt and going to decide one in a short time. So need to know more about your offer and specs about the room, also how can you help me there!

Tomorrow going to buy a membership and you can send message to me.

By the way I am not sure if the girls in those sites are real! There are decent ones there though a few, sure you know better than me, service is more important.

Karla Models are ok for me, some good ones there too. Still I am not sure if all pics are REAL!

I bought my ticket. I will land to Guarulhuos on Nov 12 22:30 and thinking about taking a recliner bus for Rio. So will be in Rio on Nov. 13. Planning to leave on Nov 18 for Foz de Iguaçu. Will fly from SP on Nov. 21.

Bartonsky
10-20-10, 15:31
Anyone have a comprehensive list of centro places, termas and massage places. I know I bubbas report he list several centro termas but I am sure there are others. Also had a hard time finding the massage places. In the old posts people list a couple places here and there but not very complete.

Thanks for the help.

In Rio now and will be in Rio for at least a month prob 2.

Hit luomo yesterday. Since that was the first terma I had been to I felt like it had to be my first again. I do think the whole steam room, showers are nicer than most. Last yr I know each place had their fair share of big girls but were always some nice small tight girls as well. Yesterday only saw one girl that was kinda like that.

Maybe it was just an off day. Guess will need some more data pts. Here for a while so not in any rush. Was hoping could save some money and hit the centro places. Took the metro to save money, felt fine no problems. My rule is just to walk fast avoid eye contact.

Thanks for any info that come fwd. Will post any relevant info I get. Oh if you get to luomo before 4 they waive the entrance. I got the #1 key, I thought that was funny. I opened the place up. For some reason my credit card didt work there so had to go downstairs and get cash at the atm with the bouncer guy escorting was kinda annoying, not sure why it didn't work. Hey at least I was able to get the cash.

The women at the entrance said the dollar has really hurt them lot less gringos now. Hard for me to judge since its been a yr since been yr. I did notice a group of like 10 japanese dudes roll in. Yen at 15 yr high vs dollar. They seem to ignore the no smoking rules which was upsetting.

Add more later. Any feedback on the centro terms/ massage places appreciated.

Obrigado

Abzsafado
10-20-10, 22:07
For some reason my credit card didt work there so had to go downstairs and get cash at the atm with the bouncer guy escorting was kinda annoying, not sure why it didn't work. Hey at least I was able to get the cash.



Your card probably didn't work because Brasil is currently the number one country for credit card fraud. Or so my bank told me, they block the damn thing every time I go there.
Unless its in a chip and pin machine a lot of UK banks will block it even if you tell them in advance that you are going there. I was advised to not use the machines located in supermarkets etc. Kind of screws you up if you want to use the one in Faramacia do leme at 3am.

Urcarioca
10-20-10, 23:01
Your card probably didn't work because Brasil is currently the number one country for credit card fraud. Or so my bank told me, they block the damn thing every time I go there.Actually, most of brazilian banks do not accept foreign credit cards. Nada a ver com fraude. It's just a question of foreign money exchange, some are allowed to do it, others don't (Unibanco, Banco Real and so on).

You'll never be deceived with a HSBC, Citibank, Banco do Brasil (not all of them) ATM. Sometimes in major cities you'll find Bradesco too.

Rio Bob
10-20-10, 23:51
Does she want to go to 2a2 for free or is it included in the price of the original session? Are you really going to take her there and trade down for a cheaper model?
How is the swinging scene now does it still run in the club in Barra as well?

No not for free, same price as a session, which is a good deal because the swing club is a 4 hour ordeal a session is 2 hours.. True I'm sure I wouldn't get better than her in the club but I just find it fun being in the club rather than staying alone in my apt with her, it's a night out, it's a big party. She would be my bait and switch. She likes to swing also and I'm as old as her father and she knows that but she said she wouldn't go with just anybody but knows she can have fun with me and that's what it's all about.

But I'm going tonight and I'm sticking to my plan A because I originally promised another girl I would call her and take her tonight and I didn't want to break my promise. The other girl is nice also but not quite like this one, I met her on the top of the Marriott hotel last March and she is very dependable. Dependable is a good thing too because if they don't show up your sort of out of luck because it's hard to get someone at the last minute, so your night is ruined.

Henri club in Barra is still going on but I don't like it as much as 2A2 in Copa, different atmosphere and different people, last time I was there my girl wanted to leave, she didn't like it either.

Eric Cartman
10-20-10, 23:56
My best visits lately have been at Termas 65 and Termas 502, which are both within about 1-2 blocks of 4x4 in Centro. 65 has standard T pricing, whereas 502 is a bit rougher and cheaper. You can google map them I imagine. At 502 you don't wear robes.

There are a few other interesting places I've seen in slightly rougher areas, but I don't know your security preferences.

I've seen very few fellow gringos lately in any place, which is actually really refreshing. But yes the Real's appreciation vs. the US Peso makes me quite price conscious.

-Cartman


Anyone have a comprehensive list of centro places, termas and massage places. I know I bubbas report he list several centro termas but I am sure there are others. Also had a hard time finding the massage places. In the old posts people list a couple places here and there but not very complete.

Thanks for the help.

In Rio now and will be in Rio for at least a month prob 2.

Hit luomo yesterday. Since that was the first terma I had been to I felt like it had to be my first again. I do think the whole steam room, showers are nicer than most. Last yr I know each place had their fair share of big girls but were always some nice small tight girls as well. Yesterday only saw one girl that was kinda like that.

Maybe it was just an off day. Guess will need some more data pts. Here for a while so not in any rush. Was hoping could save some money and hit the centro places. Took the metro to save money, felt fine no problems. My rule is just to walk fast avoid eye contact.

Thanks for any info that come fwd. Will post any relevant info I get. Oh if you get to luomo before 4 they waive the entrance. I got the #1 key, I thought that was funny. I opened the place up. For some reason my credit card didt work there so had to go downstairs and get cash at the atm with the bouncer guy escorting was kinda annoying, not sure why it didn't work. Hey at least I was able to get the cash.

The women at the entrance said the dollar has really hurt them lot less gringos now. Hard for me to judge since its been a yr since been yr. I did notice a group of like 10 japanese dudes roll in. Yen at 15 yr high vs dollar. They seem to ignore the no smoking rules which was upsetting.

Add more later. Any feedback on the centro terms/ massage places appreciated.

Obrigado

Rio Bob
10-21-10, 00:44
For some reason my credit card didt work there so had to go downstairs and get cash at the atm with the bouncer guy escorting was kinda annoying, not sure why it didn't work. Hey at least I was able to get the cash.

Obrigado

Same thing happened to me, luckily I had the cash on me, but next day the card worked again.

The Watcher
10-21-10, 03:10
No not for free, same price as a session, which is a good deal because the swing club is a 4 hour ordeal a session is 2 hours..

How much was the session?

Fred100
10-21-10, 07:00
I live in Brazil and use my foreign credit cards. I need to phone the credit card companies 4 or 5 times a year to get them unblocked. Had my card cloned twice in Brazil. The thieves didn't have my pin, so it was bogus charges from gas stations and retail outlets that let them sign the slip. Being as the pin wasn't used in any of these transactions, both VISA and AMEX re-credited my account on both occasions. Only had one occasion at L'umo where the goon came with me to my apartment to get the cash. Not a good feeling. Now I always carry sufficient cash when visiting the putarias. No such thing as honor amongst Gentlemen in the pimp/john relationship.


Same thing happened to me, luckily I had the cash on me, but next day the card worked again.

Samy69
10-21-10, 08:11
Hey, Specialist,

I have paid subscription now. Guess will be ok in a few hours time.

Need to decide for accomodation, hurry up please.


You want REAL blondes? in Rio? and for decent prices? you will have a real hard time.

Maybe you learn to like REAL mulatas, REAl curly dark hair brown skin. Slim girls without huge asses (but a little bigger bubble butts) you can find, even with white skin but more the dark haired type, or bleach blonde.

I tried to send you a message, but you are not a (paying) member and thus cannot receive PM. Consider paying while you plan your trip, so you can have people contact you. Contact me before you go to Rio. Consider staying at my apartment, I can try to help you finding what you want for lower prices.

What is your problem with karlamodels? That the girls are not real blondes?

When you go to Iguaçu, make sure you go in the rainy season where you have lots of water, not when it is almost dry.

Curitiba is on the way to Iguaçu, has lots of whit white girls and real blondes for decent prices. But a little hard to find your way without portuguese.

Check http://www.acompanhantescuritiba.org/
http://www.classisex.com.br/amodelos.html
http://www.modelovip.com.br/

http://www.starnight.com.br/bruna.html


http://www.gpcuritiba.com/phpBBED/viewtopic.php?t=81&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
Sinal Verde Sexy - Mal Floriano, entre XV e Mal Deodoro [Cen
SINAL VERDE SEXY - www.sinalverdesexy.com.br - 3039-1285
AV. MARECHAL FLORIANO PEIXOTO, 134 3º ANDAR SALA/APTO 403
CENTRO - CURITIBA - PR
(41) 3039-1285
M14 V
www.sinalverdesexy.com.br
Atendimento das 9h as 19h - de 2ª a 6ª

* Custos
30 min R$ 40,00 (+10,00 adicional sem capote)
60 min R$ 60,00

Rio Bob
10-21-10, 12:15
How much was the session?

When I called her she told me 1 hr for 250 reais and 2 for 400. I asked her if she could do 300 for 2 hrs? She told me yes and was at my apt in 45 min. She lives on the same street as me.

I went to 2a2 last night not with her but with my original girl, lots of guys wanted her last night. One young guy who was like a bodybuilder had a young beautiful girl. First we were in a room with 2 couples and us and the third girl was beautiful too but then later we were alone, this time I traded up. It was a good night; I arrived at midnight and left at 4 am.

Tonight I might go to Centro and visit the happy hour at Arcos do treles, anybody have anything to say about that?

I'm looking out the window now and not a cloud in the sky so it will be a beach day. Yesterday at the pool a beautiful woman I caught checking me out, she was alone, Obviously not a GDP, I start talking to her, she was easy to talk to, friendly, A Doctor on business in Rio and I can tell she liked me even while talking to me she was touching me. But unfortunately she was with her husband who came to the pool, they ended up buying me lunch beers everything on them, invited me to their vacation pousada, I thought maybe they were swingers for a moment, LOL.

Voyajer1
10-21-10, 12:50
Try this map/list. It was posted a long time ago. Also, try this link:
http://bitchmaps.com/index_pt.html Keep posting and have a good time.
Anyone have a comprehensive list of centro places, termas and massage places. I know I bubbas report he list several centro termas but I am sure there are others. Also had a hard time finding the massage places. In the old posts people list a couple places here and there but not very complete.

Thanks for the help.

In Rio now and will be in Rio for at least a month prob 2.

Hit luomo yesterday. Since that was the first terma I had been to I felt like it had to be my first again. I do think the whole steam room, showers are nicer than most. Last yr I know each place had their fair share of big girls but were always some nice small tight girls as well. Yesterday only saw one girl that was kinda like that.

Maybe it was just an off day. Guess will need some more data pts. Here for a while so not in any rush. Was hoping could save some money and hit the centro places. Took the metro to save money, felt fine no problems. My rule is just to walk fast avoid eye contact.

Thanks for any info that come fwd. Will post any relevant info I get. Oh if you get to luomo before 4 they waive the entrance. I got the #1 key, I thought that was funny. I opened the place up. For some reason my credit card didt work there so had to go downstairs and get cash at the atm with the bouncer guy escorting was kinda annoying, not sure why it didn't work. Hey at least I was able to get the cash.

The women at the entrance said the dollar has really hurt them lot less gringos now. Hard for me to judge since its been a yr since been yr. I did notice a group of like 10 japanese dudes roll in. Yen at 15 yr high vs dollar. They seem to ignore the no smoking rules which was upsetting.

Add more later. Any feedback on the centro terms/ massage places appreciated.

Obrigado

Sperto
10-21-10, 14:37
Try this map/list. It was posted a long time ago.
The map you posted are from 2009. There is a more updated map from March 2010.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=132040

Fronyl
10-21-10, 15:09
Actually, most of brazilian banks do not accept foreign credit cards. Nada a ver com fraude. It's just a question of foreign money exchange, some are allowed to do it, others don't (Unibanco, Banco Real and so on).

You'll never be deceived with a HSBC, Citibank, Banco do Brasil (not all of them) ATM. Sometimes in major cities you'll find Bradesco too.Actually, I experienced fraud at both HSBC and Bradesco in Rio. At GIG an at HSBC branch located in Ipanema. Have also heard different opinions of Bradesco, while Citibank I have never heard anything bad about. Just my two cents.

The E
10-21-10, 19:17
Hi Guys,

I'm back in Rio and just realized that Help is gone. I searched the forum and keep reading the good reviews about Dolce Vita. It's just that nobody provided an address.

I just wanted to confirm that this is the address:

Avenida Atlântica, 1424 - Copacabana

Thanks

Exec Talent
10-21-10, 20:40
Hi Guys,

I'm back in Rio and just realized that Help is gone. I searched the forum and keep reading the good reviews about Dolce Vita. It's just that nobody provided an address.

I just wanted to confirm that this is the address:

Avenida Atlântica, 1424 - Copacabana

Thanks
You do know that this place is about as big as the average American broom closet, don't you? If more than 5 of us show up at the same time, there will be nothing to see except the back of our heads.

The Watcher
10-22-10, 00:53
Hi Guys,

I'm back in Rio and just realized that Help is gone. I searched the forum and keep reading the good reviews about Dolce Vita. It's just that nobody provided an address.

I just wanted to confirm that this is the address:

Avenida Atlântica, 1424 - Copacabana

Thanks

I can't confirm the address but I can confirm that Dolce Vita is next door to Balcony.

Rio Bob
10-22-10, 01:06
I can't confirm the address but I can confirm that Dolce Vita is next door to Balcony.

I might stop by there tonight so I'll let you know how it is if I get to go inside. Now I'm going to dinner, who knows where I'll end up.

The E
10-22-10, 02:40
I might stop by there tonight so I'll let you know how it is if I get to go inside. Now I'm going to dinner, who knows where I'll end up.

Cool. Do you have Balcony's address? Are they both on
Avenida Atlântica? Even if you can just give me an area I can figure it out. They are in Copacabana right?

Sperto
10-22-10, 06:07
Dolce Vita... I just wanted to confirm that this is the address:
Avenida Atlântica, 1424 - Copacabana

I can't confirm the address but I can confirm that Dolce Vita is next door to Balcony.

Cool. Do you have Balcony's address? Are they both on Avenida Atlântica? Even if you can just give me an area I can figure it out. They are in Copacabana right?
You already know the address of Dolce Vita. Balcony is just next door. Why do you need the address to Balcony?
Are you going to visit Balcony or sending them a post card?

Balcony: Av. Atlântica 1424, Copacabana.
http://www.balconyrio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=32

The E
10-22-10, 22:09
You already know the address of Dolce Vita. Balcony is just next door. Why do you need the address to Balcony?
Are you going to visit Balcony or sending them a post card?

Balcony: Av. Atlântica 1424, Copacabana.
http://www.balconyrio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=32

So you took the time to do all that cutting and pasting and didn't actually read what I was asking for? My whole post was about me not being sure if that was the address because I found a lot of address under the name Dolce Vita. Nobody said "yes that is the address". Nobody verified that it was in Copa or on Avenida Atlântica.

However, I just walked the entire stip and ran smack dab into it no problem. As The scene is basically the same as it was in front of Help so I felt right back at home. I even saw many of the same people out there, even the chicklets lady in all black with the curly hair. I asked some people about her and they told me that she has been selling those things for over 20 years. That's so crazy!

I picked up a girl and we hooked up last night for $200 reals. She stayed the night and we basically kicked it all day today together and had sex on and off between outings. Not too bad for $200 reals. I never spent that much on a girl, but she was definately worth it for an entire days time.

I may go back out there tonight, but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sexed out and am going to see my main girl tomorrow and may need a day to recoop.

Eric Cartman
10-22-10, 22:19
Glad you had a good experience there. I have been there a few times over the past several weeks and it is a decent scene, though dominated by the same cliques of girls (apparently they sort of drive away newcomers). I also have been upstairs to Dolce Vita and while it is small, it's not quite as small as the "broom closet" comment would lead a novice to believe ;) DV usually gets hopping around 2:30AM -- the balcony crowd moves upstairs around that time.

R$200 is really the "experienced" rate that long-term guys here are getting for TLN from girls there, from the folks I've talked to. Glad you got it, too and had a good exp.

Funny thing is, I look right down on DV and Balcony from my apartment across the square and I can see the crowds out there when I go to bed. Fun times. I need to buy a telescope :)


So you took the time to do all that cutting and pasting and didn't actually read what I was asking for? My whole post was about me not being sure if that was the address because I found a lot of address under the name Dolce Vita. Nobody said "yes that is the address". Nobody verified that it was in Copa or on Avenida Atlântica.

However, I just walked the entire stip and ran smack dab into it no problem. As The scene is basically the same as it was in front of Help so I felt right back at home. I even saw many of the same people out there, even the chicklets lady in all black with the curly hair. I asked some people about her and they told me that she has been selling those things for over 20 years. That's so crazy!

I picked up a girl and we hooked up last night for $200 reals. She stayed the night and we basically kicked it all day today together and had sex on and off between outings. Not too bad for $200 reals. I never spent that much on a girl, but she was definately worth it for an entire days time.

I may go back out there tonight, but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sexed out and am going to see my main girl tomorrow and may need a day to recoop.

Sperto
10-22-10, 22:25
My whole post was about me not being sure if that was the address because I found a lot of address under the name Dolce Vita. Nobody said "yes that is the address". Nobody verified that it was in Copa or on Avenida Atlântica.
Propably nobody verified that Dolce Vita and Balcony lies in Copa because it's so obvious to anybody who cares to read the forum.

Bartonsky
10-22-10, 22:26
Thanks to all the help on the board I found the first centro massage. Just went to the first on on that list someone posted from Sperto. Thanks again.

Took me awhile got off on the wrong metro station. Need to get off on carioca
station. The bld is literally next door to it. I think there are many in the bld so shold be easy to check out 3-4 in one trip. the people there were very friendly and the room was clean.

she charged me 95k real for 40 mins. dont know if i got charged wrong or the prices went up. Was my first time so just assumed it was right. There were4-5 girls, nothing amazing one that looked like my type. But i then asked the girl that was the presenter if she worked and she said yes so I got her. Dont know if that was a mistake but she was pretty fun and enthusiastic. basicaly there was no massage it was starts blowing and then sex. sometimes i wish they played it a bit more coy. i kinda like the shy girls sometimes that takes some coaxing to get them going. i guess every place is different.

The challenge so far is finding the thinner smaller type of girls. was in medellin for a while so guess used to that now. most girls are thicker big ass types. i dont mind a nice ass but dont like when it get sloppy.

so far have felt safe on the subway. reminds me of nyc. i figure i will check out a bunch of these centro places and mix it up with the higher end termas.

thanks again for posting the pdf to the centro places.

Rio Bob
10-23-10, 00:07
Went to the Marriott hotel for dinner, all you can eat Sushi and all the beer you can drink, 60 reais.

Headed up to Balcony, met a natural blonde type, she told me 200 reais and she has a car, we started to walk to her car but then she told me to wait about 1 block after Balcony in the middle of nowhere, she told me she has to wake her friends up who are sleeping in the car, girls who are drunk.

I waited for a few minutes and then turned around walked straight into Dolce Vita, met a girl who I saw in 2a2 the other night and I was in the same room as her, OMG putas in a swing club?

Later walked back out to Balcony as Dolce Vita was not that crowded, ran into a nice sweet slim blonde, 200 reais and back to the apto, she knocked my socks off, best sex I had all day.

Overall it's not TA or Help but with looking a little bit you can come up with something decent and they all quote me 200 reais so far.

Some girl told me there is another club they go to 5 blocks from the Copacabana Palace; don't remember the name but I'll try to do some more research. It's on Ave. Atlantica.

Passed by Ho beach today about 2 PM, a few putas there, the touts were all over me like white on rice and some of the old vet touts came over to laugh because they saw how they attacked me. I never sit there prices so inflated but they told me the girls come later about 2:30 to 3 PM, but I didn't return. I saw my old friend Jose there who is the most aggressive of the bunch, he doesnt talk to me anymore because I caught him stealing and when I went back to confront him and demand my money back I did it in front of prospective clients, I embarrased him to give me my money back, since then he doesn't bother me anymore, this is a good thing.

Sperto
10-23-10, 09:51
Those touts on ho-beach must have a really hard time nowadays with so few gringos. I would never spend a single centavo on those vultures. I have my favourite barraca 100 metres away. Close enough to see if there are any interesting talents coming down to ho-beach. It's very amusing to see the touts running after gringos on the beach, fighting to get the clients.

Those touts should perform at a circus. The man with the giant balls, the man with the giant belly, Paulo with the extra belly-button (dead by now?), the indio, the limping dwarf, fiscal da natureza and the crazy dog doing tricks.

The E
10-23-10, 15:06
Propably nobody verified that Dolce Vita and Balcony lies in Copa because it's so obvious to anybody who cares to read the forum.

I consider myself an experienced forum dude, i.e. (not a n00b). I challenge you to find a thread on here that provides an address or even states that these two places are in Copacabana. I made the assumption that they were, however, I found no confirmation.

Not everyone stays in Copa, this is just one small area in Rio. So it would be stupid on my part to make that assumption, which is why I asked someone for confirmation before going on a wild goose chase.

This is the Rio forum, not a US city forum where most of the people talking live in that city and already know the area's well. Many of the people utilizing this form don't frequent Rio often or have only been here a few times. So it's expected for people to ask a few extra questions about locations and addresses.

Poucolouco
10-23-10, 15:35
I consider myself an experienced forum dude, i.e. (not a n00b). I challenge you to find a thread on here that provides an address or even states that these two places are in Copacabana. I made the assumption that they were, however, I found no confirmation.


Is this the confirmation you were looking for? "Balcony #1 Bar & Restaurant in Copacabana." Several posts refer to Dolce Vita next door, obviously in Copacabana as well.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1072971&postcount=5263

World Mongerer
10-23-10, 16:11
Hey guys, this was my 4th visit to Rio, my fave destination in the world for P4P action?

I ended up going to a terma every night, my appetite is insatiable, like many of you, all I could think about was sex? I prefer termas as they are safer, you know the prices up front, in many places the girls get tested too, and I just like the atmosphere where you see loads of beautiful girls all in one place where you can chat, flirt and kiss them?

I have a preference for white/caucasian girls, whatever you want to call it and speak fairly good Portuguese. I know many of you will say, well why go to RJ as most are black/mulattas? Yes that's probably true, but on previous trips I've always managed to find what I wanted?

I stayed in a one bedroom apartment on Avda Nossa Senhora de Copacabona & Rua Miguel Lemos, very close to the old Help.

I'll split this report into various posts:

Day 1 – Balcony Bar (1424 Av. Atlantica), (Barbarellas (Rua Min Viveiros Castro, 24 – Copacabana), Pussy Cat (Rua Belfort Roxo, 88. Copacabana,)

Arrived in RJ at around 21. 30 after a 12 hour flight, got to my apartment about 22. 30 left all my stuff there and decided to check out the scene. From previous experiences I knew it would be too late to go to a terma as most places seem to close at midnight or 01. 00 but quieten down a few hours before so I decided to check out Balcony Bar which seems to be the new help.

As most people described it's a small bar, I got a drink (quite expensive!) and started to check out the talent. A big disappointment I have to say, well October is low season and prob not the best time to go but the flight was cheap and it was a spontaneous trip anyway (booked 5 days before?). I don't think there was one girl I found attractive and besides, since I have a preference for white/Caucasians there weren't many of those about anyway.

I then went to Barbarellas, for many of you who don't know it's basically a club with nude dancers and working girls for take out. It was 60 reals to get in (you get two drinks with that) and did the usual, got myself a drink and started to check out the talent. Again, there was nothing really outstanding for me, I chatted to a lot of girls but none that really I found attractive enough to take home with me. I did kiss one girl though, she wasn't that bad, but I didn't really want to take her home but I was having fun just kissing her anyway. Of course these girls try to be very persuasive and kissing is one way to get a new client, but hey I was having fun just kissing her and in the end just told her I didn't want to go with her.

There was nothing there for me so decided to leave and went to a place called Pussy Cats. I went to this place on my last trip to Rio and my friend ended up taking a girl home on that occasion. When I went there this time, again a big disappointment, I only went in to have a look so didn't pay entrance, then I left almost immediately afterwards and went back to my apartment.

Perkele
10-23-10, 16:12
she charged me 95k real for 40 mins. dont know if i got charged wrong or the prices went up.


Yes, you got ripped off. With 45000 reais you can close VM for a month.

Well shit happens.

:-)

Hughdad
10-23-10, 19:31
Yes, you got ripped off. With 45000 reais you can close VM for a month.

Well shit happens.

:-)He had to mean R$95 for 40 minutes, not R$95k (as in R$95,000). If a chica got R$95,000 for 40 minutes I will fly down there and make her my busy partner.

Hughdad
10-23-10, 19:35
I consider myself an experienced forum dude, i.e. (not a n00b). I challenge you to find a thread on here that provides an address or even states that these two places are in Copacabana. I made the assumption that they were, however, I found no confirmation.

Not everyone stays in Copa, this is just one small area in Rio. So it would be stupid on my part to make that assumption, which is why I asked someone for confirmation before going on a wild goose chase.

This is the Rio forum, not a US city forum where most of the people talking live in that city and already know the area's well. Many of the people utilizing this form don't frequent Rio often or have only been here a few times. So it's expected for people to ask a few extra questions about locations and addresses.Enjoy your trip in Rio. Roll with it, let everything else roll off your back. Being in Brazil 6 months a year makes me happy.

Bravo
10-23-10, 20:56
Is this the confirmation you were looking for? "Balcony #1 Bar & Restaurant in Copacabana." Several posts refer to Dolce Vita next door, obviously in Copacabana as well.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1072971&postcount=5263

CHECK....MATE!

Abzsafado
10-23-10, 21:14
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Went to the Marriott hotel for dinner, all you can eat Sushi and all the beer you can drink, 60 reais.


Now that is really interesting, all the beer you can drink for R$60. Thats only 12 choppe. Is there a time limit on this? When does it start and when does it end? I feel a thirst coming on.

Rio Bob
10-23-10, 22:32
[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Went to the Marriott hotel for dinner, all you can eat Sushi and all the beer you can drink, 60 reais.


Now that is really interesting, all the beer you can drink for R$60. Thats only 12 choppe. Is there a time limit on this? When does it start and when does it end? I feel a thirst coming on.

Well, I know, They have good Devassa chopp on Tap there. I got there late but it ends at 1 AM. If your a drinker the beer alone could pay for itself, it probably starts about 8 pm or so, normal dinner time , I believe its just Mon thru Fri though.

World Mongerer
10-23-10, 22:41
Day 2 – Centaurus (Rua Canning, 44)

- Termas in Rio.

I've been to quite a few termas in Rio, my personal favourite is Centaurus. It is the most expensive terma in Rio but for me probably has the best selection of girls. They always try to get you to pay the entrance + a 40 minute session which is 120 + 330 reals up front, but I always just pay the entrance first then if I decide to go with a girl I'll pay for that separately.

I have been mongering in many places around the world but haven't really experienced anything like the termas in Rio. I get a big buzz of excitement and aniticipation just before I go to a terma, I love these places, it's like heaven!:.)

- Entering the bar-

Anyway, so I get changed into my bathrobe and make my way upstairs to the bar all excited:.) I open the door and walk in and see all these beautiful girls, a few of them greet me and say, "oi, tudo bem? " I quickly scan the room then head off to the bar to get a drink. I like the layout of the bar in Centaurus which is different to all the other termas I've been too. The area by the bar has high stools and is kind of sectioned off from the main area. I like it this way 'because it means you're not in plain view of everyone and feels kinda private. The main area is an L shaped room, if you go into the corner, again you're not in plain view of everyone and it feels a bit more private and intimate, which is great when you're with a girl!

- My terma routine –

As I mentioned before I love termas, I just love going to a place with dozens of beautiful girls you can chat with and kiss and of course end up having sex with. Mixed in with the music and all that, it's just a great experience. I don't like to go with the first girl that approaches me, I love to chat with various girls, get to know them and then decide which girl to go with. What I usually end up doing is going round and kissing maybe 5 or 6 girls then choose one of those girls to go with:.) I love kissing, and I'm telling you, I could spend all night in a terma just kissing and feeling up all the girls. These girls of course are trying to persuade you to go with them upstairs for a session so they will kiss you, feel you up, talk dirty to you and rub your dick to get you horny and go with them. Well that's fine by me! In my experience all the girls will DFK you passionately and rub you up big time, and I just can't get enough of it!.

- Checking out the talent –

Anyway, so I get a "Cuba libre" from the bar (rum and coke) and there are a few girls sat on stools, as I'm ordering my drink I'm standing next to a girl sat on a stool and we start to chat. We do the usual, " oi, tudo bem?, de onde e voce? " chit chat, and after a minute or too our lips start to steer towards each other and we start kissing. It's full on DFK of course and I'm enjoying every minute of it as I feel her up as well. She was a black haired girl with tanned skin, nice slim body, small tits and an ok face, I wasn't going to go with her but I thought I'd just spend a few more minutes just getting off with her anyway. She asks me if I want to go upstairs with her but I say I'm not sure yet and want see the other girls:.)

- Enter Giovanna-

Let me digress a little and tell you about Giovanna. She's a girl I met in Centaurus in March 2009, for me she is absolutely stunning. I got her phone number and e-mail when I first met her and had a private session with her at my hotel as well last year in 2009. She is tall and beautifully tanned, has an amazing "lingerie model" type body and just oozes sex appeal the way she walks and poses. When I first saw her I said wow, she's stunning. She has these amazing legs too, when I saw her sat on a stool with those long legs slighty apart in high heels it just drove me crazy and I said, wow, I've got to have her! If I have a type of girl I like, then I suppose it's the catwalk/lingerie model type, so slim, tall and nice body, every now and then you can find one:.)

. Back to the story..

Anyway, so I had e-mailed and chatted to Giovanna on MSN to say that I would be going to Rio and that would be good to see her. I had been in Centaurus since about 18. 15 and around 19. 00 Giovanna comes in. 1st thing I notice is that she had put on a bit of weight since I last saw her, but she was still stunning. Anyway, so we get a drink and sit down and we start to DFK each other. She has the most amazing luscious full lips and I'm there just enjoying every moment of it as I feel up her long legs too. After a while she tries to persuade me to go upstairs with her but my plan was always to invite her to my apartment as I had done on my last trip where we could be more relaxed and it wouldn't be rushed. We agreed that I would call her tomorrow and maybe meet up and so she goes off and talks to other guys.

. The hunt commences..

So after a DFK session with Giovanna:.) I start looking at the other girls. In my very 1st visit to Centaurus way back in 2006 during Carnival, the talent was unbelievable. Carnival probably attracts the best looking girls from all over Brazil and at that time, it was like a dream, I wanted to shag almost every girl there. Perhaps being low season there were not, for me, many stunning girls who would blow my mind away, but still there were some quite attractive girls. In the end I see this cute blonde, wonderful shapely legs and arse, not much tits but quite a pretty face. Anyway, so I do the usual, we get a drink and we DFK each other for a while. I'm of course well horny by then so she asks me if I want to go upstairs with her but I needed to find out a few things first.

For me to really enjoy sex, I look for one thing which is like a minimum prerequisite, BBBJ. If a girl doesn't do that then I won't go with her. There is also one other thing I look her is whether a girl does CIM:.) so if she does both then I'm def going with her. So I ask her if she does both, she says yeah, so of course I'm well pleased and decide to go up with her:.)

- Doing the deed.

It's funny I can't remember much about the sex:.) it was good, but not that memorable. She had a great pair of legs and really nice arse, it was nice going down on her too. She gave a pretty good BJ and we did it in various positions and when I was about to come, I pulled out, took off the condom and asked her to suck me off to orgasm. For me, doing CIM while at the same time she keeps sucking is just the most pleasurable intense sensation you can get. After a few squirts in her mouth she pulled away for some reason, later she tells me that a bit went straight down her throat which put her off which is why she pulled away. Anyway, an enjoyable experience none the less:.)

. Back to the bar..

I went back to the bar to get a drink and chill out a bit, and to also see if I could kiss another girl:.)

After a while this half Japanese, half Brazilian girl called Flavia turns up who looks quite attractive. It was getting towards the end of the night and we start chatting, she was quite direct and asked if I wanted to go upstairs with her. I didn't want to spend more money and anyway, I'm sure I wouldn't have been able to shag a 2nd time so soon after the 1st one:.). So I said no to her but we carried on chatting anyway and we ended up DFK ing each other for a while:.) It was getting near to closing time so I asked what she was going to do afterwards and if she fancied going to a club somewhere. In the end we agree to go a club called Mariuzinn (av Copacabana) so I get dressed and leave Centaurus and later we meet up in a 24 hour bar called Eclipse (about 5-10mins walk from Centaurus) before heading off to Mariuzinn.

. Clubbing at Mariuzinn with Flavia.

Mariuzinn is a night club on Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana. I had been there on my last trip to Rio in Oct 2009, the place was great and they were playing lots of Funk Carioca which I really like and there were great looking girls there too (non pros).

Anyway, so I'm there with Flavia and we're just having a great time dancing, drinking and DFKing each other:.). About an hour half later we go back to my apartment and we do the deed. She didn't ask for any money or anything, she, just like myself, just wanted to have a good time, wow so I got a bit lucky:.) She spent the night at my apartment too and we end up going to have lunch together along with her cousin and another GDP friend.

. Lunch with Flavia.

It's amazing how many of these girls are so open and unashamed about what they do. Flavia and her other GDP friend were having a conversation about clients they've had. Flavia was constantly receiving phone calls from other customers too. These girls make shit loads of money it's unfair, I asked Flavia's cousin if he knew how much roughly Flavia earns, he said it could be around 10, 000.15, 000 reals a month!:.) jeez, unbelievable. Anyway, turned out to be an interesting night out in Rio:.)

Auriflama
10-24-10, 16:21
What the offical word on smoking in termas? Is it allowed? Do they enforce non smoking rules when inconsiderate patrons ignore the rules.

World Mongerer
10-24-10, 18:08
Day 3 – Termas Monte Carlo (Rua Hilário Gouveia, 19, Copacabana)

My previous visits to Monte Carlo have been memorable, especially my last visit back in Oct 2009 when I did it with twins! That was one of the best experiences I ever had:.) so I was looking forward to this visit.

- Arriving at Monte Carlo –

Got there about 18. 30, changed into a bathrobe as usual and went upstairs to the bar. One thing I always noticed about this place is that there tend to be more afro/mulatta girls here but I do prefer white/Caucasian girls and sometimes you find a few gems like the twins from my last visit?. Flavia (GDP I met from Centaurus) had told me she had worked in Monte Carlo before and that the twins were no longer there, a shame, I would've liked to have met them again.

- Checking out the talent-

Anyway, got to the main bar and as usual there were a bevy of girls in their customary high heels dotted across the room. I scanned the room a bit and have to say I was disappointed that I didn't see any girls I really liked.

There was this one blonde however, tall, tanned, great tits (fake) and firm arse, she was attractive but not someone who really grabbed my attention. I got my usual Cuba Libre, made eye contact with her and she came over as I was sat on my high stool. As what usually happens in these places, we start with a little chit chat and we end up DFKing as of course she's trying to convince me to go upstairs with her. I wasn't totally sure if I wanted to go with her, but I was having fun just kissing her:.). She was being very persuasive indeed, she did that thing where I was sat on my stool, slightly legs apart and she bent over slightly while rubbing her arse against my dick, mmm:.) Of course by then I was getting horny and she was winning me over I have to say. After a few more minutes of this I decide I want to go upstairs with her but I ask her the important questions: BBBJ and CIM? She says yes so we promptly make our way upstairs.

-Doing the deed-

I suspected this girl was slightly older than the other girls, in the light of the bar downstairs sometimes it's not so apparent, when we got to the room I could see in her face and body that she was slightly older. She told me she was 37 which really surprised me, she looks after herself quite well I have to say. Her tits were nicely shaped, fake, but still, they were nice to grab hold of. I can't' remember much of the sex tbh:.) but there is one thing that stands out is that she seems to be into rimming (giving) I'm not really a fan myself but instead of that she did try to persuade me to let her finger me up my arse. I wasn't really up for it but as I was lying face down on top of her she eased her fingers near my anus so I said, ok, just be gentle:.) It wasn't too bad actually, but I didn't let her do it for long.

Anyway, after a few positions I was ready to come and I said I wanted to come in her mouth but she said I could only come around the mouth and not inside. OK, so she lied a little about doing CIM, anyway, it was still good to come around her mouth:.) Not the most memorable shag, but a shag is a shag. I probably won't go back to Monte Carlo again, but you never know, they might get new talent in.

World Mongerer
10-24-10, 22:14
Day 4 – Termas Solarium (R. J J Seabra, 21. Lagoa, Rio de Janeiro – RJ)

Being a Sunday I think there were only a few termas open, I'd been to Luomo on a Sunday before but it wasn't that good so I decided to try Solarium for the first time.

- Arriving at Solarium –

Got there just after 18. 00 by cab from my apartment, the terma is located by the lake in a nice neighbourhood. As many people haver reported, it's run by the same owners of Monte Carlo.

- Entering the bar –

It's the typical bar layout of most of the termas I've been too, seating around the edges and a small bar at one end. I'd say the talent was slightly better than Monte Carlo, there were a few that caught my eye.

- Girl no. 1 –

Can't remember her name, but she wasn't bad looking at all. Slim girl, not bad body, medium height, bottle blonde and face was ok. So I get my usual Cuba Libre and see her standing by the wall and we make eye contact. She comes over, and the usual "Oi tudo bem? ", " qual e o seu nome? " etc., after the pleasantries it's not long before we start some full on DFKing, wow this girl was good, very passionate and kept talking dirty to me, man she was turning me on. I wanted to check out the other girls though so after short but enjoyable DFK and feeling up session I say I'm not sure if I want to go with her as I want to check out the other girls. She's not offended of course and says "fica a vontade" a very common expression which can mean "make yourself at home" but in this situation means more "relax/chillout and make yourself comfortable". She also says if I change my mind I should just let her know.

- Girl no. 2 –

Can't remember the name of this girl either but she kinda fits the profile of my ideal girl. She's a brunette with long hair, tall, quite slim, small tits, face kinda average but the rest of her body made up for that:). Anyway so I get her attention and we start with the small talk and guess what happens next?: P yes we start kissing, full on DFK. Wow this girl was very passionate too, rubbing me up in all the right places and I was having a good feel of her arse. It's not long before she asks me if I want to go to a room with her, but I still wanted to check out some other girls. Before she goes off I ask her whether she does, BBBJ, CIM and anal. The answer was a yes and my eyes lit up, I got the impression that she was a bit of a dirty girl, or "safadinha" as they like to say in Portuguese, and wow that was turning me on a big time!:)

- The chosen one –

I was still on the lookout for a girl that would really catch my attention, enter Bia. For me she has the typical Brazilian look which I really love, she's a dark haired/brunette girl, medium height, slim, golden tan, small tits, pretty face and the most beautiful smokey/smouldering eyes complimented with full, almost bushey eyebrows which are characteristic of many latin/Mediterranean women. It's a look I absolutely love so I had to go and meet her.

I go up to her and start chatting to her but she doesn't seem that receptive and friendly, then one of the girls whispers something into her ear and a few moments later she goes off somewhere. Girls in these clubs notice when guys go around and just chat/kiss various girls without taking them to a room. I'm sure that's what they thought but it was always my intention to take a girl to a room, I just like to take my time. Anyway, I see if there are any other girls that I like, but there aren't really any so I set my sights on Bia but she doesn't seem interested in going with any guy, she spends most of the time just chatting with the other girls. I couldn't get her attention so I asked one of the girls to tell her I wanted to go with her and finally we chat properly. She still seemed a bit distant and cold, there was no pre kissing or anything and I asked her if she did BBBJ and CIM. She said only BBBJ, no CIM or Anal. Normally I wouldn't have gone with a girl like this if I knew there was another girl who did CIM, but it was near closing time and I was just so captivated by her look that I decided I wanted to go with her.

- Doing the deed –

We get to the room and she takes off her bikini, revealing a very small pair of tits with tan lines, I'm not really bothered about that though. She still seems a bit distant and cold, don't know if she's like that with everyone or just me, maybe having a bad day or something, anyway I can't always expect it to be a passionate/intimate experience all the time I suppose.

I started off by going down on her, she had a very nice clean pussy, I was enjoying eating her out while she moaned. She then started sucking me off while I was lying down, it was nice and slow, the way I like it. I then stand up on the bed with her kneeling down while she works slowly on my dick. I love standing up while a girl sucks my dick, just really turns me on, and I could see her in the mirror too, it was great. It was so good I think I let her suck too long 'because it didn't take me too long to come after only two positions, so it was a bit disappointing for me. Anyway, we just lie down and chat for a while and I tell her I would like to see her outside of the terma. She explains that she doesn't have much time, that it would be better in the terma, but if she were to find time it would have to be 500 reals for two hours. She also told me that she has a boyfriend, that's probably why she seemed distant and cold, guilt I suspect. Anyway, I thought she was gorgeous but the experience with her was disappointing.

Hughdad
10-24-10, 22:38
What ever happened to him?

Dude's report got me interested in Rio/Brazil in the first place.

World Mongerer
10-24-10, 23:07
What the offical word on smoking in termas? Is it allowed? Do they enforce non smoking rules when inconsiderate patrons ignore the rules.Don't know if it's official or not but I haven't seen anyone smoke at all in any of the termas I've been too.

Bartonsky
10-25-10, 00:48
Yes, you got ripped off. With 45000 reais you can close VM for a month.

Well shit happens.

:-)Yes still used to Colombia where you have to add k to everything. Yes was 95 reals.

Checked out another place on that list of Sperto. Again thanks all for posting that. Finally found a thinner girl my type. Really good connection. Also was really warm in the room so got nice and sweaty I really like that. I think that is one of the reasons why my exprerience in Luomo wasnt that great. The A/C was on so high I was shivering. Really killed the mood. In my experience cheaper is better in general.

Will post some more detailed reports soon. Been having limited access to internet so its been difficult.

Been to the apt 3320 in that carioca bld and 2114. First one had rvery nice rooms selection was ok not great. 2114 was only 2 girls but one was the skinny type I like. Second one was my best experience here so far. Was funny they were playing some hardcore porn on the tv in the rm in 2114. A little too hard core for my taste, fisting extreme gagging etc. Just thought was kind of funny.

Edward M
10-25-10, 01:19
What the offical word on smoking in termas? Is it allowed? Do they enforce non smoking rules when inconsiderate patrons ignore the rules.Last time I was there L'uomo only allowed smoking in the bathroom/sauna. Monte Carlo only allowed smoking in the Whiskeria. 4x4 has a special room only for smoking. Unfortunately they lost the 2nd boate to make this smoking room which is much smaller than the 2nd boate was.

I did not see any violators. I do not know what the rule is inside the cabines.

Bravo
10-25-10, 01:39
Supposedly, the new Help club is open. One of my GDP friends told me today on MSN. It is located near the Copa Palace on the corner of Atlantica Ave and Republic of Peru (two story club). If anyone is in Rio can you pass by and let us know how it is?

Jsm1393
10-25-10, 02:52
Supposedly, the new Help club is open. One of my GDP friends told me today on MSN. It is located near the Copa Palace on the corner of Atlantica Ave and Republic of Peru (two story club). If anyone is in Rio can you pass by and let us know how it is?Do you (does she) mean it's actually "HELP" just moved to a new location, or an alternative, like the Balcony bar? Hopefully it's really new Help, but we will see.

Bdonkadonk
10-25-10, 03:51
What the offical word on smoking in termas? Is it allowed? Do they enforce non smoking rules when inconsiderate patrons ignore the rules.

Besides what Edward M said I didn´t see anyone smoke any cigarettes in Centaurus when I was there in March. I was told that Solarium still allows smoking so I never went there. A couple of Brazilian guys ignored the non-smoking policy in 4x4, and they were just next to me so I asked them to put out their cigarettes. They were pretty drunk and didn´t care, they laughed and continued smoking. I moved on to another part of 4x4 and I don´t know how the staff would have dealt with this. I didn´t bother to tell them.

B J Lover
10-25-10, 04:16
Supposedly, the new Help club is open. One of my GDP friends told me today on MSN. It is located near the Copa Palace on the corner of Atlantica Ave and Republic of Peru (two story club). If anyone is in Rio can you pass by and let us know how it is?

The only two story I see on google view at Av. A and Rep. Peru look like it was a daycare center about 6 months ago! If anyone has intel please let us know. I'm there 11/19.

Edward M
10-25-10, 04:49
Besides what Edward M said I didn´t see anyone smoke any cigarettes in Centaurus when I was there in March. I was told that Solarium still allows smoking so I never went there. A couple of Brazilian guys ignored the non-smoking policy in 4x4, and they were just next to me so I asked them to put out their cigarettes. They were pretty drunk and didn´t care, they laughed and continued smoking. I moved on to another part of 4x4 and I don´t know how the staff would have dealt with this. I didn´t bother to tell them.Last time I was at Solarium people went outside to smoke through the door in the boate at the other end from the bar.

The guys at 4x4 may have been police. I hear they make up a large percentage of the Brazilian clientel and of course do not follow any rules they find inconvenient.

Vitrea
10-25-10, 05:47
Day 3 – Termas Monte Carlo (Rua Hilário Gouveia, 19, Copacabana)
... Not the most memorable shag, but a shag is a shag. I probably won't go back to Monte Carlo again, but you never know, they might get new talent in.


Thank you for your excellent reports. You are a good writer and I enjoyed reading them.

Ipanema Carioca
10-25-10, 06:28
Day 3 – Termas Monte Carlo (Rua Hilário Gouveia, 19, Copacabana)

My previous visits to Monte Carlo have been memorable, especially my last visit back in Oct 2009 when I did it with twins! That was one of the best experiences I ever had:.) so I was looking forward to this visit.

- Arriving at Monte Carlo –

Got there about 18. 30, changed into a bathrobe as usual and went upstairs to the bar. One thing I always noticed about this place is that there tend to be more afro/mulatta girls here but I do prefer white/Caucasian girls and sometimes you find a few gems like the twins from my last visit?. Flavia (GDP I met from Centaurus) had told me she had worked in Monte Carlo before and that the twins were no longer there, a shame, I would've liked to have met them again.

- Checking out the talent-

Anyway, got to the main bar and as usual there were a bevy of girls in their customary high heels dotted across the room. I scanned the room a bit and have to say I was disappointed that I didn't see any girls I really liked.

There was this one blonde however, tall, tanned, great tits (fake) and firm arse, she was attractive but not someone who really grabbed my attention. I got my usual Cuba Libre, made eye contact with her and she came over as I was sat on my high stool. As what usually happens in these places, we start with a little chit chat and we end up DFKing as of course she's trying to convince me to go upstairs with her. I wasn't totally sure if I wanted to go with her, but I was having fun just kissing her:.). She was being very persuasive indeed, she did that thing where I was sat on my stool, slightly legs apart and she bent over slightly while rubbing her arse against my dick, mmm:.) Of course by then I was getting horny and she was winning me over I have to say. After a few more minutes of this I decide I want to go upstairs with her but I ask her the important questions: BBBJ and CIM? She says yes so we promptly make our way upstairs.

-Doing the deed-

I suspected this girl was slightly older than the other girls, in the light of the bar downstairs sometimes it's not so apparent, when we got to the room I could see in her face and body that she was slightly older. She told me she was 37 which really surprised me, she looks after herself quite well I have to say. Her tits were nicely shaped, fake, but still, they were nice to grab hold of. I can't' remember much of the sex tbh:.) but there is one thing that stands out is that she seems to be into rimming (giving) I'm not really a fan myself but instead of that she did try to persuade me to let her finger me up my arse. I wasn't really up for it but as I was lying face down on top of her she eased her fingers near my anus so I said, ok, just be gentle:.) It wasn't too bad actually, but I didn't let her do it for long.

Anyway, after a few positions I was ready to come and I said I wanted to come in her mouth but she said I could only come around the mouth and not inside. OK, so she lied a little about doing CIM, anyway, it was still good to come around her mouth:.) Not the most memorable shag, but a shag is a shag. I probably won't go back to Monte Carlo again, but you never know, they might get new talent in.Did those twins have tattoos of scorpions? I ran into twins at cancun this past July. I did on and she was wild.

World Mongerer
10-25-10, 21:52
Thank you for your excellent reports. You are a good writer and I enjoyed reading them.Vitrea, thanks man, much appreciated. I just try to write what I would like to see in reports!

World Mongerer
10-25-10, 22:11
Did those twins have tattoos of scorpions? I ran into twins at cancun this past July. I did on and she was wild.Hey Ipanema Carioca, I think they did have tattoos, can't remember if they were scorpions, I'll try to upload a photo, then let me know if you recognise them.

World Mongerer
10-26-10, 00:15
Did those twins have tattoos of scorpions? I ran into twins at cancun this past July. I did on and she was wild.I've attached a pic of the Monte Carlo twins! : ) are these the ones?

Eric Cartman
10-26-10, 02:35
Last time I was there L'uomo only allowed smoking in the bathroom/sauna. Monte Carlo only allowed smoking in the Whiskeria. 4x4 has a special room only for smoking. Unfortunately they lost the 2nd boate to make this smoking room which is much smaller than the 2nd boate was.

I did not see any violators. I do not know what the rule is inside the cabines.

They let you smoke on the big fire escape area at Solarium -- it's right outside the big doors at the end of the boite that have the little fire-escape sign on them. Saw 5-6 dudes head out there at various points tonight.

Eric Cartman
10-26-10, 02:49
First, props to World Mongerer for some long-overdue good Rio reports. Breaks my heart to continue to hear bad reports on Monte Carlo as it is literally one block from my office :(

Headed out to Solarium tonight to meet Travelrb69, who was back in Rio for a bit -- he had read some of my FKK reports from Germany back in July. I hadn't been to Solarium since moving to Rio on Oct. 1, so I figured I would give it a shot. Picked Monday as they run an internet special where if you print out a form from their site, they give you R$40 off a 40-minute room. Which barely makes up for the R$15 each-way cab there from Copa, but hey :)

Tell you the truth, i was a bit skeptical on my way out ... I know Solarium and the Zona Sul Ts are pretty pricey these days, and I've been having pretty good luck in Centro at some significantly cheaper Ts introduced to me by BubbaBoy. Like 502 and MV30. Hard to beat R$120 a throw if you find a cutie, and generally I've been seeing 2-3 in each spot.

It wasn't helped by the cab driver dropping me off on the wrong street, about 4 blocks from Rua J.J. Seabra. But I walked a bit and sorted it out. Jardim Botanico always seems "mais tranquilo do que Copacabana" -- may be an illusion, but feels safer. The suco bars are definitely 10%-20% more expensive, at least :)

Solarium remains pretty much the same. 1 perky somewhat cute receptionist and her fatter colleague (who suggested tipping on the way out, which miffed me off a bit). Prices are now (I think) R$70 entrance, R$80 room (40. min), and R$160 girl. With my coupon I got out for R$294 with 1 caipirinha, 1 suco de pessego (for the chick), and 1 water.

The showers were still nice and hot, but I find the bathroom / facilities cramped vs. other T's. I do like the boite in Solarium, a lot. It was a bit slow on Monday night -- one girl said about 1/2 the girls were out -- but that's OK with me as it gave me ample time to check the place out. Lots of taller, thinner, blonder girls than Centro -- 1 black chick, a couple mulattas, some body-builder types (including that chick who used to work at Monte Carlo with the huge dragon tattoo), and also Priscilla (curly blond hair) who does strip-shows sometimes is still there.

There were definitely some doable girls. Won't say the selection was better on a per-girl basis than Centro, but probably overall more doable girls than in 502. I like the vibe in the boite. I ended up picking a tall, muscular, short-dark-hair carioca with a big serpent tattoo around her belly -- Camilla. 25 and of course has 1 kid and is studying to be an aesthetician. She was fun in the room - nice BBBJ, licked the balls w/o being told (good girl), strong squat-fucking. Didn't try anything particularly safado so can't say how she feels about anal or CIM. Funny thing -- I kept saying "Good girl!" as she was doing her thing, and she kept correcting me and saying "Camilla!" ... had to explain to her what it meant in my broken Porto lol :)

Hung out a bit afterwards in the boite. Travelerb69 mentioned some prives (private home places) in Centro that I'd definitely like to check out some time -- much cheaper. I enjoy Solarium etc. but dropping R$300-400 every week is going to take a toll on my bank account. (By comparison, I was seeing a girl in LA 2x/week, for full nights / sleepovers, and paying her US $250 each week ... yay craigslist!).

Interesting - not a lot of gringos. Some younger Brazilian dudes acting loud. It's been pretty gringo quiet most of the places I've been so far this Oct.

-Cartman

Rio Bob
10-26-10, 03:21
What's the name of the new club???

Some girl in Dolce Vita told me about it too but I forgot the name. I was going down Ave. Atlantica Saturday night at 4 am after dropping a girl off on Prado Junior. I was looking for the club, it was all lit up, seemed like there were some people still in there, I wanted to stop but it was already 4 AM and I was shot. So it's there and the posters below description of the location looks accurate.

Ipanema Carioca
10-26-10, 05:11
Some girl in Dolce Vita told me about it too but I forgot the name. I was going down Ave. Atlantica Saturday night at 4 am after dropping a girl off on Prado Junior. I was looking for the club, it was all lit up, seemed like there were some people still in there, I wanted to stop but it was already 4 AM and I was shot. So it's there and the posters below description of the location looks accurate.I was told it was an anniversary party for a rich old couple!

Sperto
10-26-10, 14:32
Come on, somebody must know the name of the new club.

The Watcher
10-26-10, 15:55
What happened to the new club in Barra called The Pier. It was supposed to be the new Help.

Bubba Boy
10-26-10, 16:24
Why is everyone referring to a new "help". Unless a new club has a capacity for over 1000 people like Help did, then it is just another Boite in Rio. There are tons of boites already with the capacity of maybe 50 girls, this is a significant difference. Any new club with a capacity of less than 100 girls is not even close to being a new Help.

Ipanema Carioca
10-26-10, 17:08
I've attached a pic of the Monte Carlo twins! : ) are these the ones?Different twins, but the one close to the camera is sexy!

Damn!

The E
10-26-10, 18:44
I went to the Balcony last night and tried a new tactic. I came around 2:00 PM and went around and staked out the girls that I liked. I waited for one to give up and call it a night and leave the area, then I followed her and gave her the look. When I asked how much, she responded with $R 300,00 I came back with $R 150,00 and she agreed. She stayed the night and fucked and BB sucked me... then I got an hour massage and then she fucked me again in the morning before she left. And she was a newbie. Only 18 years old and said that she's only been working for 3 months and is not a regular. She has a regular job in Rio and just goes to Copa when she needs to make ends meet. I saw her ID, born in March of 1992. Great tight body and a great fuck.

I reccommend that you guys try this tactic.

The E
10-26-10, 18:49
CHECK....MATE!

lol, I guess I get the big FAIL hunh. Oh well, you win some you lose some, But hey, we're all in Rio so we're all winners right now.

Happy Hunting guys.

Ipanema Carioca
10-26-10, 19:14
I went to the Balcony last night and tried a new tactic. I came around 2:00 PM and went around and staked out the girls that I liked. I waited for one to give up and call it a night and leave the area, then I followed her and gave her the look. When I asked how much, she responded with $R 300, 00 I came back with $R 150, 00 and she agreed. She stayed the night and fucked and BB sucked me. Then I got an hour massage and then she fucked me again in the morning before she left. And she was a newbie. Only 18 years old and said that she's only been working for 3 months and is not a regular. She has a regular job in Rio and just goes to Copa when she needs to make ends meet. I saw her ID, born in March of 1992. Great tight body and a great fuck.

I reccommend that you guys try this tactic.E, those are the ones I find. Get the humble and hungry ones, not the want to be superstar garotas!

World Mongerer
10-26-10, 22:07
Day 5 – Termas 4x4, (Rua Buenos Aires, 44, Centro)

In my last 3 visits to Rio I have always stayed in Copacabana so have always been to termas in that area because of convenience but had read reviews about termas in the centro so decided to check it out.

I actually went to this place last year, Oct 2009, for some reason my friend and I ended up in the whiskeria, we didn't know about the terma upstairs, just thought it was the bar and that's it:) probably fault of the taxi driver who dropped us off right at the door of the whiskeria. Only when I read other reports is when I realized that there must be a terma too:)

- Arriving at 4x4 –

Decided to save some money this time and took the metro from Cantalago station to Uruguaiana, a journey of around 20-25 mins. From the station it's about 3/4 blocks away, fairly easy to find, I got there just after 18. 00.

I got to the place and went through the correct entrance this time:) and went up the stairs got to reception, got my key and changed into my bathrobe

- Entering the bar –

When you get to reception you actually pass by the entrance to the bar, so you can hear the music and see some of the girls go in and out, from outside it sounded lively. Being a Monday I thought that maybe it would be quiet but when I entered the bar area it was quite lively and buzzing and there were a lot of girls.

- Checking out the talent –

My initial scan of the room didn't reveal anything outstanding for me, maybe I'm expecting too much from these termas, but I seem to compare all my terma experiences to my first one back in 2006 at carnival time when the talent in Centaurus was absolutely amazing. Anyway, I got a Smirnoff Ice for a change, and start to check out the talent. The music is pumping away and there is a good vibe in the club with a few girls dancing. It was quite crowded in there as the room is not that big, there must have been over 30 girls there. Walking around the room there were not many stunners but a few catch my eye

- Girl no. 1 –

I have a thing for tall women. For me, if a woman is tall she has a natural elegance, which you don't really get with shorter women. A tall woman will of course have longer limbs, and when you combine that with a nice slim body, good posture and if she knows how to walk, wow, that just oozes sex appeal for me, it drives me crazy. Imagine a catwalk model like Brazilian Giselle Bundchen doing her sexy walk down the runway. Now imagine another beautiful girl, but shorter, say Hayden Panettiere (cheerleader from series Heroes) who's about 5'1", having shorter legs takes shorter strides, not quite the same effect as Giselle, see what I mean?:) well it's all about personal preferences at the end of the day, and that's what turns me on. (I'm only 5'4" BTW:))

Anyway, back to the girl. Damn, she is so tall, she must be about 5'11" and she was hearing heels which must have made her like 6'2". She had long, straight bottle blonde hair, her face was ok, lips were on the thin side though. She was slim and wearing a very revealing dress, which showed some of the nicest pair of tits, I had ever seen. I'm not referring to size, just the shape, perfectly formed, pretty sure they were natural too. There was one thing that I found a bit odd (I'm quite picky as you may have gathered) the lower part of her legs from her knees down to her ankles seemed shorter and out of proportion with the rest of her leg, it just seemed odd to me. Anyway, I chat to her and we exchange pleasantries and I'm two minds whether to sit down with her but in the end I decide not to and look at the other talent.

- Girl no. 2.

I'm in the middle of the room and another girl catches my eye. Can't remember to much what she looks like, just that she was a brunette with long straight hair and a pretty nice body, but not outstanding. Anyway, it's not long before we start kissing and DFKing, right in the middle of the dance floor:) We then moved towards one of the tables, she sat on one of them while I was stood up as we continued our DFK session, damn she was getting into it and so was I:) We were there for quite a while actually, then inevitably she asked me if I wanted to go with her to a room, I ummed and ahhed and said, I want to have a look around first so I walked off.

- Girl no. 3, the fabulous Juliana, the chosen one –

After girl no. 2 I was in the club for quite a while and had seen nearly all the other girls and was getting a bit disappointed, nothing really grabbed my attention until a bit later on, enter Juliana. Remember my thing for tall women? She was a white girl, fairly tall, but she had a presence about her, it was the way she walked in her heels, her slim sexy body, her posture and also a great pair of tits (fake) but nonetheless, a great pair. All that combined instantly grabbed my attention so I got up close, got eye contact then walked up to her. We started to chat and I was getting excited and couldn't wait to get intimate with her so I suggested we sit down. Well it wasn't long before our lips steer towards each other and we get down to some passionate DFKing, she's a great kisser and I'm getting turned on big time. I get us both a drink and we just carry on DFKing, she seems to be enjoying it as much as me, I could've stayed there all night just kissing her. She didn't rush me at all either to go to a room, it was actually me that suggested it 'because after a while I was getting so turned on I just wanted to do her. I ask her beforehand if she does BBBJ, CIM and anal, she says she does everything but CIM, but I don't mind:). Anyway, when we finish our drinks, we go upstairs to the room.

- Doing the deed.

We get a small room which has just enough room for the bed and space for a shower. After we both shower, she get's on the bed naked and on all fours and I see her lovely arse, pussy and thighs, what a turn on! I love it when a girl gets on all fours and sticks her arse up a bit, so I got behind, grabbed those cheeks and started eating her out. Since she said she does anal, I also started to finger her up her anus a bit while I licked her pussy.

It was my turn for oral attention so I lied down on the bed while she slowly sucked my dick for a while. I then stood up on the bed while she was kneeling in front of me sucking me off. I could see her in the mirror and this was turning me on big time, I made her look too:) After a while I got her to lie down face up while I more or less straddle her face, pushing my dick in her mouth, that's another position that is one of my favourites, just really turns me on.

It's time to fuck so I get the condom on and we start missionary and then change to doggy style. I'm really up for some anal action by then, she's a tad reluctant at first but I say I really want to do it, so she gets the KY jelly and slowly I ease my dick into her arse. It's tight of course, but I'm getting turned on and slowly I start to pump her, then gradually getting faster and faster. I then put her legs on my shoulders so I can pump her deeper, she starts to moan and after a while I'm ready to shoot my load so I pull out and ask her to finish me off with her hand so I come all over her body. Overall it was a good fuck, I would've liked to have lasted longer, but sometimes that happens:)

- Back to the bar –

I go back to the bar just to chill out, relax, and have another drink. Juliana comes back and I kind of usher her over and we start chatting, she's a really cool girl. Don't know whether it's true or not, but she tells me she's a student studying radiology, so she studies in the morning and early afternoon then comes to 4x4 after to work from Monday to Friday. Wouldn't be surprised if there are many students working there, just trying to pay their way through uni. Obviously I couldn't resist DFKing her again in between the chit chat:) and I could've spent the rest of the night doing that, she didn't seem to complain: P What a cool girl, Juliana is highly recommended!

World Mongerer
10-26-10, 22:12
Different twins, but the one close to the camera is sexy!

Damn!I managed to get some explicit photos and also a video with them giving me simultaneous oral attention:)))) they work well as a team man!

World Mongerer
10-26-10, 22:14
First, props to World Mongerer for some long-overdue good Rio reports. Breaks my heart to continue to hear bad reports on Monte Carlo as it is literally one block from my office

Headed out to Solarium tonight to meet Travelrb69, who was back in Rio for a bit. He had read some of my FKK reports from Germany back in July. I hadn't been to Solarium since moving to Rio on Oct. 1, so I figured I would give it a shot. Picked Monday as they run an internet special where if you print out a form from their site, they give you R$40 off a 40-minute room. Which barely makes up for the R$15 each-way cab there from Copa, but hey

Tell you the truth, I was a bit skeptical on my way out. I know Solarium and the Zona Sul Ts are pretty pricey these days, and I've been having pretty good luck in Centro at some significantly cheaper Ts introduced to me by BubbaBoy. Like 502 and MV30. Hard to beat R$120 a throw if you find a cutie, and generally I've been seeing 2-3 in each spot.

It wasn't helped by the cab driver dropping me off on the wrong street, about 4 blocks from Rua J. J. Seabra. But I walked a bit and sorted it out. Jardim Botanico always seems "mais tranquilo do que Copacabana". May be an illusion, but feels safer. The suco bars are definitely 10%-20% more expensive, at least

Solarium remains pretty much the same. 1 perky somewhat cute receptionist and her fatter colleague (who suggested tipping on the way out, which miffed me off a bit). Prices are now (I think) R$70 entrance, R$80 room (40. Min), and R$160 girl. With my coupon I got out for R$294 with 1 caipirinha, 1 suco de pessego (for the chick), and 1 water.

The showers were still nice and hot, but I find the bathroom / facilities cramped vs. Other T's. I do like the boite in Solarium, a lot. It was a bit slow on Monday night. One girl said about 1/2 the girls were out. But that's OK with me as it gave me ample time to check the place out. Lots of taller, thinner, blonder girls than Centro. 1 black chick, a couple mulattas, some body-builder types (including that chick who used to work at Monte Carlo with the huge dragon tattoo), and also Priscilla (curly blond hair) who does strip-shows sometimes is still there.

There were definitely some doable girls. Won't say the selection was better on a per-girl basis than Centro, but probably overall more doable girls than in 502. I like the vibe in the boite. I ended up picking a tall, muscular, short-dark-hair carioca with a big serpent tattoo around her belly. Camilla. 25 and of course has 1 kid and is studying to be an aesthetician. She was fun in the room. Nice BBBJ, licked the balls w/o being told (good girl), strong squat-fucking. Didn't try anything particularly safado so can't say how she feels about anal or CIM. Funny thing. I kept saying "Good girl! " as she was doing her thing, and she kept correcting me and saying "Camilla! ". Had to explain to her what it meant in my broken Porto LOL

Hung out a bit afterwards in the boite. Travelerb69 mentioned some prives (private home places) in Centro that I'd definitely like to check out some time. Much cheaper. I enjoy Solarium etc. But dropping R$300-400 every week is going to take a toll on my bank account. (By comparison, I was seeing a girl in LA 2x/week, for full nights / sleepovers, and paying her US $250 each week. Yay craigslist!).

Interesting. Not a lot of gringos. Some younger Brazilian dudes acting loud. It's been pretty gringo quiet most of the places I've been so far this Oct.

-CartmanHey Cartman, nice report. Since you're living out there now, I assume you will be checking out some termas in the centro at some point? I've only been to 4x4, would be good to see a report from you on the other ones in centro take it easy man.

Golfinho
10-27-10, 00:57
I went to the Balcony last night and tried a new tactic. I came around 2:00 PM and went around and staked out the girls that I liked. I waited for one to give up and call it a night and leave the area, then I followed her and gave her the look. When I asked how much, she responded with $R 300,00 I came back with $R 150,00 and she agreed. She stayed the night and fucked and BB sucked me... then I got an hour massage and then she fucked me again in the morning before she left. And she was a newbie. Only 18 years old and said that she's only been working for 3 months and is not a regular. She has a regular job in Rio and just goes to Copa when she needs to make ends meet. I saw her ID, born in March of 1992. Great tight body and a great fuck.

I reccommend that you guys try this tactic.2 pm 'til close? that's a lotta staking out to shoot your fish in a barrel. thanks for the info!

Bravo
10-27-10, 00:57
Come on, somebody must know the name of the new club.


There is only ONE club on that corner, I am sure even Stevie Wonder could find it. LOL! Its right next to the arabic spot, on Atlantica ave.

Fred100
10-27-10, 01:06
I've attached a pic of the Monte Carlo twins! : ) are these the ones?Yes the lovely Palerma in the front and I think her twin uses the name Perla. There is an older sister that used to work at Centaurus, Beautiful face but the body was not as good as the twins. I think that Perla and the older sister have married gringos. Possibly back in Rio now. Sadly most of these "pretty woman" rescues don't work out.

Sperto
10-27-10, 07:59
There is only ONE club on that corner, I am sure even Stevie Wonder could find it. LOL! Its right next to the arabic spot, on Atlantica ave.
Finding the club will not be a problem. I was just curious about the name of the club.
If some of you're in Rio now it shouldn't be that hard passing by and check out the place.

World Mongerer
10-27-10, 10:13
Yes the lovely Palerma in the front and I think her twin uses the name Perla. There is an older sister that used to work at Centaurus, Beautiful face but the body was not as good as the twins. I think that Perla and the older sister have married gringos. Possibly back in Rio now. Sadly most of these "pretty woman" rescues don't work out.Hey Fred100,

Nice to know someone else who recognises them too : ) so did you have the pleasure of a session with the twins as well? I heard from Flavia who used to work in Monte Carlo (now in Centaurus, was with her on day 2 of my report) that one of them had married an Argentinian guy.

Orpheus I
10-27-10, 12:30
The name of the club is Cafe del mar.

The E
10-27-10, 13:16
2 pm 'til close? that's a lotta staking out to shoot your fish in a barrel. thanks for the info!

I was only there for an hour.

Wantafanta
10-28-10, 00:55
The name of the club is Cafe del mar.Can somebody here give a review of this place? How big is it? Even if this place is 1/3 size of Help, it could be a winner. Imagine being inside a club again at night to pass the time instead of standing outside of Balcony. Geez!

Eric Cartman
10-28-10, 01:17
Great report, World. Thanks!

Poucolouco
10-28-10, 01:21
The name of the club is Cafe del mar.
Cafe del Mar is a restaurant in the location of the former Top Beer. Opening tomorrow at 18:00 hrs.

Sperto
10-28-10, 07:56
Ibiza, Buzios and now Copacabana. Cafe del Mar looks nice.
http://www.cafedelmarbrasil.com
http://www.noisemaker.com.br/2010/10/cafe-del-mar-inaugura-filial-no-rio-de.html

I doubt that Café del Mar will be any kind of substitute for Help. I don't miss Help at all, but it would be nice with another GP-hangout in Copa.

Copa needs a Café del Mar just like the one in Fortaleza (and a Forró & Mamboo and Zipi Bar).

Fred100
10-28-10, 11:11
Hey Fred100,

Nice to know someone else who recognizes them too : ) so did you have the pleasure of a session with the twins as well? I heard from Flavia who used to work in Monte Carlo (now in Centaurus, was with her on day 2 of my report) that one of them had married an Argentinian guy.

Had a bit of a thing for Palerma for a while, but it's the same old story, once you see them going up and down the stairs a few times. That's the down side of the terma setup. We all know the numbers, it's just a turn off when you get to see it first hand.
Perla the one at the back married the Argentinian guy. The older sister moved to South Africa. Very sweet ladies always enjoyed there company.

Orpheus I
10-28-10, 14:37
Cafe del Mar is a restaurant in the location of the former Top Beer. Opening tomorrow at 18:00 hrs.No, it is an restaurant and a club. It is already open. Was there Tuesday.

Auriflama
10-28-10, 20:58
Besides what Edward M said I didn´t see anyone smoke any cigarettes in Centaurus when I was there in March. I was told that Solarium still allows smoking so I never went there. A couple of Brazilian guys ignored the non-smoking policy in 4x4, and they were just next to me so I asked them to put out their cigarettes. They were pretty drunk and didn´t care, they laughed and continued smoking. I moved on to another part of 4x4 and I don´t know how the staff would have dealt with this. I didn´t bother to tell them.Thats futile asking a no good drunken bum to stop smoking lol. I will just have to talk to management if this happens to me. I know what your gonna say.

Good luck.

Jsm1393
10-28-10, 21:47
Absolutely agree. Part of the reason I'm putting Fortaleza back on my itinerary for the next trip is that trio of clubs.


Ibiza, Buzios and now Copacabana. Cafe del Mar looks nice.
http://www.cafedelmarbrasil.com
http://www.noisemaker.com.br/2010/10/cafe-del-mar-inaugura-filial-no-rio-de.html

I doubt that Café del Mar will be any kind of substitute for Help. I don't miss Help at all, but it would be nice with another GP-hangout in Copa.

Copa needs a Café del Mar just like the one in Fortaleza (and a Forró & Mamboo and Zipi Bar).

Jsm1393
10-28-10, 21:48
No, it is an restaurant and a club. It is already open. Was there Tuesday.Very cool! So, what's the verdict? Do you have a mini-TR to talk about number of girls, looks/quality, price range, ambiance, etc?

RioGuest
10-29-10, 00:47
So how far away is this new club from the old help club?

Member #3439
10-29-10, 05:28
What the offical word on smoking in termas? Is it allowed? Do they enforce non smoking rules when inconsiderate patrons ignore the rules.

Someone asked about smoking in the cabines as opposed to the boite. As of July, girls were smoking after sex in the cabines at Luomo, 4x4, Bar 22, Club Florida, and all of the apartments that I went to.

Club Florida was allowing smoking in the boite, but no ashtrays and everyone had to throw them on the floor. Anything goes at Florida, anyway. BA85 as well, in case you expected political correctness at that fine establishment, was still allowing smoking. Just don't do it on the stairs, so no one gets hurt...

Bar 22 allows smoking only at the top of the stairs, and don't move away from that little spot or mama will yell. I found it ironic that a straightout brothel selling me bareback pussy will all money paid to the house, then passing the cut of the money straight to the girl in front of everyone is so concerned about health and/or conformance with local ordinances..haha. There is no pretense about a room charge there.

Earlier this year I ran across a couple hot ceweks in Jakarta who did not smoke or drink like most WG's, I guess because of Islamic principles. They were horrible in bed and clearly not into the profession either. Since then, I prefer to screen for girls who do smoke and drink because I expect them to have fewer hangups. These ordinances make it difficult in Rio. Maybe after the Olympics things will be loosened up, I mean the laws, hopefully not the girls. :) Seems like Rio is selling part of its soul for the Olympics. Help, smoking, etc. Adopting the most easily achievable and most senseless values of other countries.

Sperto
10-29-10, 11:34
So how far away is this new club from the old help club?
10 blocks.
1457,33 metres...

Bubba Boy
10-29-10, 15:25
I was in Club Florida this week, everyone was smoking like it was their last cig. The only other place that I have seen allow smoking so out in the open is T81. Apart from that, most places have been very good in enforcing the law which is fantastic in my book.

I believe they enforce it because the fine is 7 x UPDF's. Which is about R$ 700 now. The enforcement officers aparently have been very good at enforcing it. They will just keep coming back and fining the establishment every night until they enforce no smoking. Nice to see some efficient policing of the laws in Brazil. In fact I was very suprised that Brazil has got this under control so quickly, didn't think it would happen.

Orpheus I
10-29-10, 16:28
Very cool! So, what's the verdict? Do you have a mini-TR to talk about number of girls, looks/quality, price range, ambiance, etc?The ambiance is good, they have good cocktails, due it was raining and the place is new, there where no GDP there, only normal girls and couples. We have to check it later, it was very cold inside, the aircondition sucks.

The E
10-29-10, 19:36
They got me for my cell phone. I was lucky that that's all they got me for. And it was a 3 year old Razr worth probably $40 and the TIM SIM card only had about R$25 left on it.

It happened with a few girls that were standing on the street across from Copacabana beach. They called me over, it was dark so I came through the middle of two cars to get closer to see them. One came from behind and the other from the front. They acted like they were feeling me up, which they did on my chest and shoulders for a while. Nothing strange or different from the normal "oooooh I want your body, Fuuuuk me" jesture, however, then they both went down into my pockets both front and back at the same time. I only have two hands and quickly pushed them off of me. They both stepped back and their 3 other friends and them quickly walked off, probably exchanging the phone with one of the girls who didn't touch me in case I searched them. Within 10 seconds, realized my phone was gone, but they had already split up and I knew that the girl who had the phone probably handed it off already.

I was pissed, but decided not to make a scene since it was such a small loss financially. My pride was hurt more than anything and I was pissed, but felt like for what it was worth, I have a lot more to lose than them. So I decided to go on with my night and make up for it with a nice lady. Which I found at balcony within 5 minutes and left without getting a drink.

Just writing this embarrassing post so someone else can learn from mistakes. Please, no flames.

Auriflama
10-30-10, 00:12
I was in Club Florida this week, everyone was smoking like it was their last cig. The only other place that I have seen allow smoking so out in the open is T81. Apart from that, most places have been very good in enforcing the law which is fantastic in my book.

I believe they enforce it because the fine is 7 x UPDF's. Which is about R$ 700 now. The enforcement officers aparently have been very good at enforcing it. They will just keep coming back and fining the establishment every night until they enforce no smoking. Nice to see some efficient policing of the laws in Brazil. In fact I was very suprised that Brazil has got this under control so quickly, didn't think it would happen.Freaking idiots someone should take a lit cigarette and flick right in their face.

Bravo
10-30-10, 00:43
just writing this embarrassing post so someone else can learn from mistakes. please, no flames.


no flames, glad you didnt let them ruin your night. i had a bunch of trannys try to pick pocket me last year. i had left franks, walked up prado junior and was walking along atlantica when i saw them in front of me by the parked cars. a group of 5 of them started hooting and hollering at me, i just lowered my head and continued walking towards balcony. next thing i know, i hear the sound of heels clacking as all five of them started jogging towards me. i knew exactly what they were going to try and do , pickpocket me!

i stuck my hands in my two front pockets where i had my money and my phone. they ran up on me, started touching my chest and shoulders, one tried to stand in front of me and back his ass into my crotch in order to slow down my walking speed. i faked left and went right and moved right around him. i then told them in portugese "i know what you are doing! get the fuck away from me, you are not getting my money!" they were not violent or aggresive, they were just trying to grab my attention while went thru my pockets!

Muppets
10-30-10, 02:25
Howdy guys,

I don't post very often, and the times I do it's usually in Shanghai or Beijing's thread, or occasionally Spain, but here's my first feedback from Rio.

Am in town for couple of days, so I set about my research through the week. Crikey there's a lot of info in here, waaay too much for me to have time to go through, but I figured with what I read I'd manage.

Staying in Barra, I headed off this afternoon up to Copacabana. Wanted to try a little Termas action. Found the Copacabana itself easily enough, was in and out in 5 minutes though. Ugh not impressed byt either the surly woman on the door or the two girls inside. Perhaps the reports I read on it were older than I thought.

Never mind thinks I. Surely L'Uomo will be better. Lordy it was. Once I found it

Halloween theme going on today, so the 9 or 10 girls working (the doorwoman said 25 so I guess either 15 were fucking or her english is worse than my Portuguese. Out of the girls in there, I'd have happily banged 6 or 7 of them til I dropped dead. Yum. Couple of slim girls with nice arses really caught my eye. Ended up having a very broken conversation with a dark haired girl whose name sounded like Rebecca but probably wasn't anything like that. She had a gorgeous face and a lovely figure, and a pair of bolt ons which looked cracking in what little she was wearing. Said it was her second day there, which I think it probably was when she couldn't find the Cabine we ended up going to.

Of course, before we got to the Cabine, I followed the advice in the guide someone very helpfully formulated and got some kissing in (though she put her hands up at the sides of our faces as if to shield people in the bar from seeing) and asked a few questions which were answered with gusto.

Damn she had a pretty face. Gorgeous long black hair, nice full lips and a lovely smile. Into the Cabine, and on with a good BBBJ, not the best, but certainly not making me doubt my choice. Couple of attempts at Garganda Profunda too, without my prompting. Nice little gag which always turns me on.

Good fuck from behind and then gave her a pounding in the ass just for shits and giggles (luckily no shit was actually present during the events) and then finished off with a fooking massive load all over her lips and tits. No idea where it all came from, I've never seen one that big before. Fuck I musta been horny.

Had planned to stay a couple of hours and try out another girl who caught my eye, but alas when I went for my smokes in the locker, I had a few emails from work and had to leave. Arse.

Anyways, back in Barra after a 90 minute cab ride in traffic (mental note to self, when I come back in December, don't try that journey in rush hour), had a bite to eat, did some work and then though. Lets try something else.

Rebecca (or whatever she was actually called) had asked me to meet her in The Balcony this evening, and if I hadn't had to go back to Barra I would've hung around the hour or so she said she'd be finished in, and happily had an evening out and seen what happened (and what it cost), but anyways, I couldn't be arsed getting a cab all the way back up to Copacabana.

So, I rang up megaclassrj as per this post (thanks Dutch44)

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1067282&postcount=781

and Gabi was Duly dispatched. No bait and switch thankfully. Man she's got a nice rack. Lovely girl, arrived in 25 mins or so. Great figure, face is ok. Did I mention the cracking rack? No? Man she's got a nice rack. Had a little chat, a nice BBBJ and did the deed. Rates as advertised. Cab was 50 on top. Sat and chatted for a while afterwards about Rio, Her travels to Europe etc. did everthing with enthusiasm and was pretty good, I'd see her again, and it's a bonus that she's nice to chat to as well. I don't mind if a girl gets up and fucks off after the deed's done, and I don't necessarily want to sit and chat for ages afterward, it's not like I'm marrying them, but it was pleasant to have a conversation where the voice in my head wasn't saying 'fuck off already, I've shot my load and now it's time to do something else'. Be good to her, she's a wee gem.

So that's my tuppence. I'll be back for a few days in December, definitely going to hit The Balcony then and see what it's like, probably ring up Gabi, and I might go back to l'Uomo too. I did enjoy it there, but it isn't exactly cheap.

The Watcher
10-30-10, 02:58
Just writing this embarrassing post so someone else can learn from mistakes. Please, no flames.

Believe me, you are not the first and you will not be the last. It happens to the best of us - I know a LA cop (a person who should really know better) that had his pockets picked while several girls were rubbing on him. It is good that you made the post to remind people of what can happen.

Bubba Boy
10-30-10, 03:38
Believe me, you are not the first and you will not be the last. It happens to the best of us - I know a LA cop (a person who should really know better) that had his pockets picked while several girls were rubbing on him. It is good that you made the post to remind people of what can happen.

I would be 90% sure they were not girls.................

Lorenzo
10-30-10, 04:58
Since then, I prefer to screen for girls who do smoke and drink because I expect them to have fewer hangups.
Good grief! What kind of logic is this?

World Mongerer
10-30-10, 15:33
Plan A : hook up with Giovanna (Centaurus Girl), Plan B: L’uomo

Day 6 – Termas L’uomo (Rua Siquiera Campos, 143, second level)

It was a national holiday on Tuesday and I had tried to arrange to meet up with Giovanna (Centaurus girl) for that night. I phoned her that day and she said she would phone me back later that evening. She said she was pissed off and jealous that I had been with other girls, wow, I wasn’t expecting that reaction at all. I just thought I was another customer for her, she’s with loads of different guys all the time so what’s the difference? Although I couldn’t understand her reaction it was slightly touching that she felt this way. I’ve been in contact with her on and off since March 2009 and told her a week before that I would be coming to Rio, maybe she thought I would be coming to see her especially. Probably my mistake that in Centaurus I went with another girl and not her : ) That was because I didn’t want a rushed session in the club but preferred to take her back to my apartment and I explained that to her when I met her. Anyway, she didn’t call back, so it was Plan B

- Arriving at L’uomo –

Since I was waiting for Giovanna’s call and she didn’t call I got to L’uomo late-ish, around 21.30. My first experience in L’uomo was not good at all, that was back in March 2009 on a Sunday, there weren’t many girls and I didn’t go with any girl in the end. Over a year on I thought, well, there must be some different talent (hopefully better) and on a different day maybe more lively. Unfortunately again it was a disappointment, there were probably only 8-10 girls and for me only one was do-able.

- In the bar –

Compared to the other termas the bar area is quite small. I sat down on a stool by the bar and got myself a drink. A girl approached me shortly afterwards, she was a nice girl, funny too but I didn’t find her attractive but enjoyed chatting to her.

- The chosen one -

The only girl I found attractive was sat down on the sofas opposite, after a while she came over to the bar to get a drink and then that’s when we started chatting. She was quite a tall girl, quite curvy, not really the slim type I like, but still quite attractive. She was blonde with an ok face, quite European looking and her tits were quite big but because of her build I suspected they would be quite saggy too.

Anyway, so I’m sat on the bar stool, she’s stood up next to me and were making small talk. It’s not long of course till we start kissing and DFKing each other, I’m feeling up her body at the same time and enjoying it very much : ) We then sit down on the sofa and continue our DFK session, I have to say it was really good, she’s a good kisser and it felt like she was eating my mouth out : ) It was very chilled and relaxed, I didn’t feel rushed, I think we would have both been quite content just to chill on the sofa just kissing for a long while. It was getting near to 23.00 though and she said that if we wanted to get a room we would have to go now. I of course ask her if she does BBBJ and CIM, she says yes so we proceed to the room.

- Doing the deed –

We get to the room and she takes her bikini off and I can see she’s a tad fat (by my standards! ) but still quite attractive. Her tits, as I suspected were quite large but a bit saggy (bit like two balloons filled with water left hanging) and her thighs were large. I can’t remember much about the sex, I went down on her, she went down on me, a few positions and I finished with CIM. We chat for a while and I find out she is from the state of Santa Cantarina and has german and Italian heritage, she looks more german to me. Overall an enjoyable experience, maybe just a tad disappointed by the lack of quality and quantity at L’uomo, maybe depends on the day.

Ipanema Carioca
10-30-10, 18:44
[QUOTE=She said she was pissed off and jealous that I had been with other girls, wow, I wasn’t expecting that reaction at all. I just thought I was another customer for her, she’s with loads of different guys all the time so what’s the difference?[/QUOTE]Mongering 101: Laugh and Ignore. She is trying to sucker you into a one-sided GFE or wifey situation like 100 other gringos. Keep it business, unless she says she will quit hoeing and fuck you for free until she dies. She can't be jealous if she expects you to pay for fucking her. You are not fucking her because she is your loyal wife and it's her duty.

Ipanema Carioca
10-30-10, 18:52
They got me for my cell phone. I was lucky that that's all they got me for. And it was a 3 year old Razr worth probably $40 and the TIM SIM card only had about R$25 left on it.

It happened with a few girls that were standing on the street across from Copacabana beach. They called me over, it was dark so I came through the middle of two cars to get closer to see them. One came from behind and the other from the front. They acted like they were feeling me up, which they did on my chest and shoulders for a while. Nothing strange or different from the normal "oooooh I want your body, Fuuuuk me" jesture, however, then they both went down into my pockets both front and back at the same time. I only have two hands and quickly pushed them off of me. They both stepped back and their 3 other friends and them quickly walked off, probably exchanging the phone with one of the girls who didn't touch me in case I searched them. Within 10 seconds, realized my phone was gone, but they had already split up and I knew that the girl who had the phone probably handed it off already.

I was pissed, but decided not to make a scene since it was such a small loss financially. My pride was hurt more than anything and I was pissed, but felt like for what it was worth, I have a lot more to lose than them. So I decided to go on with my night and make up for it with a nice lady. Which I found at balcony within 5 minutes and left without getting a drink.

Just writing this embarrassing post so someone else can learn from mistakes. Please, no flames.I was once too drunk in Lapa one Saturday night, don't remember my cab ride to Copa, and realized my Blackberry was gone the next morning. Mistake, but I carry 2 Blackberrys to Rio, one for backup. Then I lost a phone in Balcony. Lesson: only carry cheap Brazil phones, and have a wingman when hanging out late and drinking.

Member #3439
10-30-10, 22:37
Good grief! What kind of logic is this?


If a girl is scared of cigarettes or drink..what else is she scared of, DFK? Hiring a health-nut for sex is like hiring a pacifist for a soldier, there is a low probability of things turning out well. Hawking and hobbying are risky, not a game for the timid.

I like kamikaze party girls who don't care about tomorrow. Rio is good for that, as opposed to someplace like Mexico where the girls are more conservative and worried, except at VM and BA85 where they usually want play it very safe. But girls in those places work for almost nothing, so I understand.

World Mongerer, Muppets. Nice reports. Keep them up!!!

Rio Bob
10-30-10, 23:10
If a girl is scared of cigarettes or drink..what else is she scared of, DFK? Hiring a health-nut for sex is like hiring a pacifist for a soldier, there is a low probability of things turning out well. Hawking and hobbying are risky, not a game for the timid.

I like kamikaze party girls who don't care about tomorrow. Rio is good for that,

I get what you're saying.

If a girl comes into my apartment and I offer her a drink and she refuses then I suspect we are not going to have such a good time.

If she says to me sure I'll have whatever you're having then I think things are going to go good.

If she has a drink and pulls out a pack of cigerettes and asks permission to smoke then I know I hit pay dirt.

Mr Enternational
10-31-10, 07:56
If a girl is scared of cigarettes or drink..what else is she scared of, DFK? Hiring a health-nut for sex is like hiring a pacifist for a soldier, there is a low probability of things turning out well. Hawking and hobbying are risky, not a game for the timid.When I was in the Navy a guy told me, "If you want your dick sucked, find a chick that smokes." And I must say that for the past 20 years every chick who I have had that smoked didn't mind sucking a dick. It's just one of those things I guess. Can't explain it but it is what it is.

Bubba Boy
10-31-10, 12:10
You guys crack me up, in my experience half of all Rio GDP's are up for absolutely anything whether they smoke or not. My favourite response to the question if they take it in the ass or not is "of course I do, not doing it would be weird!".

Finding crazy of the hook girls in Rio is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Hey Bob, I have told a few girls about your cozinha/cuzinho story. Has got a few laughs, one girl on Friday just loved it, was saying " do you like me in the kitchen" all night when I was banging her in the ass. The words are so close, I am sure many a person has confused the 2.

Urcarioca
10-31-10, 12:34
They got me for my cell phone.

It happened with a few girls that were standing on the street across from Copacabana beach.

Just writing this embarrassing post so someone else can learn from mistakes. Please, no flames.No flame at all. It's a classic, usually happening late at night in Avenida Princesa Isabel (Franky's and Cicciolina.). It happened to me, and I live here. Really embarrassing.

Rio Bob
10-31-10, 17:25
Hey Bob, I have told a few girls about your cozinha/cuzinho story. Has got a few laughs, one girl on Friday just loved it, was saying " do you like me in the kitchen" all night when I was banging her in the ass. The words are so close, I am sure many a person has confused the 2.

I'm glad you had fun with this, that's what Rio is all about and that is what this site should be all about.

The words are very close, I even told the story to two guys I know who have been going to Rio a long time and they didn't pick up on it.

But I'm glad we discussed it here and I know better now, as I said before I rarely use the word because it's not somthing I usually seek with a girl unless they bring it up. I thought it was a slang word for anal rather than a cute version of it.

Bubba Boy
10-31-10, 21:11
I'm glad you had fun with this, that's what Rio is all about and that is what this site should be all about.


Exactly, the day we all stop learning is the day we are put into the ground. For the record, I still butcher the language - BADLY!

Ipanema Carioca
10-31-10, 22:40
[QUOTE=Brasil is getting too expensive. I don't think that there will be a Help replacement unless the Dollar makes a come back.[/QUOTE]Remember, Help at it's height was fueled by a strong dollar, where 3-1 exchange brought you a lot of Rio. Now the dollar is sending guys like me to Sosua, Thailand and other mongering places. Instead of doing Rio 4-5 times a year, I may do it once maybe twice a year. Many mongers feel the same.

With less gringoes, the apartment providers will be hurt. And rightfully so, because they are now asking for deposits and copies of passports.

Restaurants will be hurt, because of less mongers. Therefore, waiters will not have gringos to pad the tab with false prices and gdp drinks.

Termas will to be hurt. Luomo, Solorium and Monte Carlo have mostly gringo business. Instead of going down in their prices to attract clients they go up. Now they are too expensive for locals. I go to these termas and I am the only one there.

Balcony is, too, hurting. Girls who use to be there before Help closed are not there. And the woman her are there are no where as fine comparing to Help woman. And it's cheaper to use a agenc like Karla models than pick up a girl from Balcony.

Lastly, 2010 was an eye opener for mongers who use US holidays to visit Rio. Now that these visitors have come to Rio, they will not return and confirm to other US mongers that Rio is dead. The same with europeans.

And for the apartment providers, most tourists will use hotels and not apartments. Unlike mongers who will go to VM for pussy, and not care about the locals, tourists will feel safer at hotels.

But many hotels are, too, closing. I got word that the Rio Othon Palace, next to Meia Pataca, is closing March 2011. So if hotels in Copa are closing, Meia Pataca will be the only restaurant on that block. And I do not think the owner will let the few gdps now there get in the way of getting regular tourists.

Helpmann
10-31-10, 23:55
When I was in the Navy a guy told me, "If you want your dick sucked, find a chick that smokes." And I must say that for the past 20 years every chick who I have had that smoked didn't mind sucking a dick. It's just one of those things I guess. Can't explain it but it is what it is.I haven't heard that one, but I would believe it.

-Helpmann :)

Ipanema Carioca
11-01-10, 01:12
Will she close the termas?

Musze3000
11-01-10, 02:24
Exactly, the day we all stop learning is the day we are put into the ground. For the record, I still butcher the language - BADLY!BB -- I'm so glad you are back around; learned so much from you and I have to give up all credit to you for me being a Rio expert now! My boys and I first trip was back in 2007 and it revolved around your guide. My Buddy even made a mini movie with all our pictures and the beginning is dedicated to you; you will have to see it one day, funny ass s**t!!

Regards,

Musze3000

Hughdad
11-01-10, 14:00
Remember, Help at it's height was fueled by a strong dollar, where 3-1 exchange brought you a lot of Rio. Now the dollar is sending guys like me to Sosua, Thailand and other mongering places. Instead of doing Rio 4-5 times a year, I may do it once maybe twice a year. Many mongers feel the same.

With less gringoes, the apartment providers will be hurt. And rightfully so, because they are now asking for deposits and copies of passports.

Restaurants will be hurt, because of less mongers. Therefore, waiters will not have gringos to pad the tab with false prices and gdp drinks.

Termas will to be hurt. Luomo, Solorium and Monte Carlo have mostly gringo business. Instead of going down in their prices to attract clients they go up. Now they are too expensive for locals. I go to these termas and I am the only one there.

Balcony is, too, hurting. Girls who use to be there before Help closed are not there. And the woman her are there are no where as fine comparing to Help woman. And it's cheaper to use a agenc like Karla models than pick up a girl from Balcony.

Lastly, 2010 was an eye opener for mongers who use US holidays to visit Rio. Now that these visitors have come to Rio, they will not return and confirm to other US mongers that Rio is dead. The same with europeans.

And for the apartment providers, most tourists will use hotels and not apartments. Unlike mongers who will go to VM for pussy, and not care about the locals, tourists will feel safer at hotels.

But many hotels are, too, closing. I got word that the Rio Othon Palace, next to Meia Pataca, is closing March 2011. So if hotels in Copa are closing, Meia Pataca will be the only restaurant on that block. And I do not think the owner will let the few gdps now there get in the way of getting regular tourists.Do you really think Rio and Brazil give a shit about mongers? What mongers spend in Brazil is a drop in the bucket in terms of the overall economy. Sure some low-life apartment and bar owners might take a financial hit - but the country is going through permanent changes. I have been securing business deals with companies that are finally making the plunge in Brazil after years of watching from the sidelines. They say the conditions are finally right.

The hotel is probably closing to be renovated for the 2014 World Cup and 2016 Olympics. There are actually major investments being made in the hotel and hospitality sector throughout Brazil.

The way things are going, mongers may find the US cheaper than Rio in the near future. I was just in Vegas and even on a Halloween weekend that town is dead. Empty malls, shopping centers and office parks. Foreclosures everywhere. Casinos are slow and they are giving away rooms and food. Of course, the women in the US will never give the level of service as in Brazil.

I'll be back in Brazil starting mid-November for 3 months after being in the states for the past 2 months. Can't wait. Very depressing in the U.S. now.

HoleRanger
11-01-10, 14:56
A woman being elected sends a strong message in a country where men typically held the position. All politicians make promises to get elected, once in office they then become privy to what really goes on behind closed doors. Some politicians are just liars others appear to be only because they can't fulfill their promises due insider details they are now a part of.

One thing for sure, she still has to survive in a male dominated arena. I would guess there are few men in office that like to unwind in a terma now and then:)

Enjoy!

Ipanema Carioca
11-01-10, 16:28
Rio I will reduce to 1 maybe 2 trips a year, because all the locals are in this "fuck the gringo". A fellow travel agent here in Los Angeles is Brazilian, and he came to US at 21 now he's 42. He is from Lagoa Rodrigo de Freitas in Rio. The Balcony and Dolce Vita girls tried R$200-R$300 on him. By the time he was done he paid "R$80" and at "termas centaurus " it's the same. It's the favorite for locals because the owner hates gringos and charge them more twice. The get away with it because you will never get this info. The owner and my friend's family are close and barbeque at each others house. The Ipanema and Copa termas owners do not like gringos and love taking the money!!! Even the little discount for early birds is far over what locals pay. They treat all gringos the same. If you are not brazilian you get "shaken down"! From the shoe shine boy to the crooked cop, and the gdp and terma owner is in the middle.

So gringos should just cool and try other parts of the world like Medellin, Pattaya, Sosua, or anywhere in Brazil. But give Rio a break until they appreciate the gringo client. But some monger will think with his lil' head and figure he can't do without Rio, empowering the Rio asshole locals.

Sabor
11-01-10, 17:10
I just did my long awaited trip to Rio and although I had a great time especially in Loumo and Montecarlos my last nite at Balcony went to shit at the end. I had hooked up with some guys I met on the plane and drank a few beers when I noticed a pretty brunette at the next table. I bought her a few drinks and after the flirting and tease I popped the question. She quoted $$$rls and my dumbass quickly agreed. Since my hotel was chica unfriendly we went to the one behind Balcony. Once in the room the attitude changed. She demanded the money first then after the deed she went in the bathroom and was on her cell. She quickly came out and went for the door. This is where I turned into an asshole and she reacted like a frightened child. She still made it out me following her and lord and behold she had someone in a car waiting. After she sped off I regrouped and went back to Balcony. A lesson learn. Just want to share a quote from the argentina section:

If you go along with what she asks, she'll think you're weak and / or a dumbshit, and she'll give you service accordingly. Bargaining (of course always in a friendly manner) establishes respect. And respect is key to getting good treatment from women (pro or non-pro)"

"In my mongering experience, the few times I've paid the chick's asking price, the experience has ended up being bad. I think it's a matter of respect. If you just give in and pay what she wants, she thinks you're a loser, and will treat you as such. If you bargain with her (but in a congenial way) she will respect you more, and will give you a better experience. Women (including pros) don't like pushovers."

From Daddy Rulz: "The way chicas respect strong men and hold weakness in contempt is a subject that can never be overstated. If you have her thinking she needs to impress you to get the dollars, then you're half way to a good fuck for less money. If on the other hand she senses blood in the water like the perfect predator she is, you're chum."

Be safe!

Ipanema Carioca
11-01-10, 18:21
She quoted $$$rls and my dumbass quickly agreed. Since my hotel was chica unfriendly we went to the one behind Balcony. Once in the room the attitude changed. She demanded the money first then after the deed she went in the bathroom and was on her cell. She quickly came out and went for the door. This is where I turned into an asshole and she reacted like a frightened child. She still made it out me following her and lord and behold she had someone in a car waiting. After she sped off I regrouped and went back to Balcony. We mongers better do better to share this type of intell. without just laughing at each other. This ***** had a car waiting for her. WTF!!! Go after the girls who are "humble and hungry", and not the hi tech GDP hoes.

Sperto
11-01-10, 18:35
Remember, Help at it's height was fueled by a strong dollar, where 3-1 exchange brought you a lot of Rio. Now the dollar is sending guys like me to Sosua, Thailand and other mongering places. Instead of doing Rio 4-5 times a year, I may do it once maybe twice a year. Many mongers feel the same.

With less gringoes, the apartment providers will be hurt. And rightfully so, because they are now asking for deposits and copies of passports.

Balcony is, too, hurting. Girls who use to be there before Help closed are not there. And the woman her are there are no where as fine comparing to Help woman.
I think you are overexaggerating the importance of sex-mongers in Rio. The tourism in Rio has never been dependent on sex toruism. The brazilians have money, and they don't mind spending it. There are hords of brazilians on holiday in Europe. The same goes for all the brazilian tourist destinations.

The apartment providers in Copa don't lack clients as they rent to brazilians. The only agencies that might have problems are the ones who were only directed to gringos.

Balcony isn't hurt. The owner has never been so happy since Help closed. The Balcony girls quality have not become worse, on the contrary. The quality used to be horrible and now it's upgraded to just bad.

I don't rely on rumours on this forum, but if they would close Rio Othon Palace it wouldn't be a loss. Meia Pataca is already history since a while back.

Rio Bob
11-01-10, 19:18
But many hotels are, too, closing. I got word that the Rio Othon Palace, .

I read an article a few months back that the Rio Government was making an investement in the Othon chain of hotels for renovations. The Othon Palace hotel has been waiting for years for Help to close. Now that Help is closed they are probably going to close to renovate. The Othon Palace hotel has had a negative stgma with regular tourists because it was so close to help. Now that that stigma is removed they can upgrade the property and beome a 5 star hotel again. This is probably what you heard my guess is.


With less gringoes, the apartment providers will be hurt. And rightfully so, because they are now asking for deposits and copies of passports.

One thing I heard recently is that the owners of the apartments that were being rented are now selling the apartments because the real estate market is high in Rio now so they are cashing in. The people who are buying the apartments are not renting them but are living in them so the supply of apartments is less for availability. This will hurt apartment providers.

Regular tourism in Rio is on the rise as is business travel to Rio. They would have been doing better but had a set back recently with that hostage taking in the Intercontinental hotel. But once that is forgotten and the positive press about the world cup and the olympics then regular tourism will boom, they don't need mongers plus this new president isn't going to be good for mongers either.

Rio Bob
11-01-10, 19:54
You guys crack me up, in my experience half of all Rio GDP's are up for absolutely anything whether they smoke or not.

What you're saying is probably true 50% of all GDP's are up for everything but what we're saying is that probably 90% of GDP's who smoke are up for everything. It's just a good barometer.

Ipanema Carioca
11-01-10, 21:21
I think you are overexaggerating the importance of sex-mongers in Rio. We talking about p4p and GDP Sperto. Please stay on the subject. We are not talking about the big picture in Rio and tourism. The fact that fewer mongers are going to Copa alone means a major impact on the Rio economy. The girls come from all over to make easy "sex money" for their families.

Daniel69
11-01-10, 22:07
I went to the Balcony last night and tried a new tactic. I came around 2:00 PM and went around and staked out the girls that I liked. I waited for one to give up and call it a night and leave the area, then I followed her and gave her the look. When I asked how much, she responded with $R 300, 00 I came back with $R 150, 00 and she agreed. She stayed the night and fucked and BB sucked me. Then I got an hour massage and then she fucked me again in the morning before she left. And she was a newbie. Only 18 years old and said that she's only been working for 3 months and is not a regular. She has a regular job in Rio and just goes to Copa when she needs to make ends meet. I saw her ID, born in March of 1992. Great tight body and a great fuck.

I reccommend that you guys try this tactic.I tell all my amigos to do this, I call it the after hours discount rack. Girls would rather go home for 1/2 price than no price. Some you can work down to a 1/3 price like this. They ask for 300, you say 100 but I'll give you 50 more (plus cab) if we like each other and you stay the night.

A couple of days ago when the rain was so bad and 1/2 the bar was gone I tried the ultimate challenge. I sat at a table with two cuties, spoke for one minute, asked how much for both, they replied 300 and I said, "how about zero. You come back to my apt., we listen to music, drink for free, and if we end up in bed I'll give you R100 each plus taxi. " I thought they would LOFL but in 2 seconds they said OK! When we got back to apt. I had the groove for one, told the other to leave and gave her taxi fare, then kept the other for the night and morning. That was the best I've done with a newbie and now it's now become my new terms. If all of do this it could become the new trend.

Daniel69
11-01-10, 23:13
So I've been here for one month now and here's a quick report.

- The weather sux in October, it changes from nice to crap every other day and there are barely any Cariocas on the beach.

- They are adding a new Kiosk and a huge concession area for the 2014 Worldcup touristas on the west end of Copacabana, to the left and right of where Help was (R. Djama Ulrich & Meguel Lemos), so the charm of the open beach is evaporating into tourist traps.

- Balcony Bar is a circus like never before. The other night I saw a guy get cracked in the head with a beer bottle by some chica he apparently disrespected and blood came flowing out of the gash in his head like a waterfall. I walked over to his table after I saw nobody really doing anything and said, "put ice in a towel and apply to his head", to which the guy replied, "ice, ice, baby (ala vanilla ice). So he was definitely feeling nice and probably feeling no pain.

- The discount rack is still open at Balcony well past midnight, see my other post. So don't give these girls what they're asking, they're dreamers. If you see a girl you like at 10-12pm just watch her leave with the newbie who gives her what she wished for and an hour later you'll see her come right back while the dude is crashed out from the first good lay of his life! All the newbie guys come and go in 15 minutes and the girls come back. It's funny to watch.

- The rumors of 35% Trannies at Balcony are false, false, false. Maybe 5% if that but they are easy to spot and harmless. One I saw was so more beautiful than 99% of the chica's I've ever seen in Brasil. Long legs with a tribal tattoo, perfect ass (not too big, not to small), huge ta ta's, and a beautiful smile. I was so impressed I had to ask her, "no disrepeche, voce tranvestite", and in a deep voice she/he replied, "yes". So there is one confirmed TV.

- The girls are leaches and piranha, trust none of them. What you do with one is told to everyone else the next day (if not minute). They are faster than the Internet. I knew this before, from four prior trips, but competition has gotten so fierce that after you go with a girl she assumes to be yours the rest of your trip. I saw a newbie I showed around being played like a Stradivarius. It was terrible. And no matter what I told him he wouldn't believe me, until his final day.

- I showed two newbies Quatro por Quatro, which I haven't been to in 2 years, and it was terrible (for the benefit of doubt, it could have been a bad night). Barely any good girls, bouncers watching your every move (for what reason I have no idea), but I must say excellent service from the chica I was with. Then I proceeded to leave w/the guys and the bouncers had the nerve to ask us for a tip. We just walked away.

-Crime is down, there are less people sleeping on the streets, no poor kids running around asking for money, and I feel safer here than most of New York.

I'll report back end of next month because I have a feeling the crop of talent is going to improve. At least I'm hoping. Right now I'm just taking in the great food, happy people, and circus like sites around "Copa Loca" (as I like to call it).

Bravo
11-01-10, 23:17
The hotel is probably closing to be renovated for the 2014 World Cup and 2016 Olympics. There are actually major investments being made in the hotel and hospitality sector throughout Brazil.




Wow, talk about two different stories! I just got the exact opposite story that you got! The people that I know say there are major players who want to invest milions into hotels and shopping malls, but they cant do it because of the corruption that permeates everything in Brasil. They told me that there are arabic companies that have been trying to purchase huge parcels of land in barra but there are so many sheisty real estate agencies that have fake "official" documents, they have to turn down the deals. It would take an army of lawyers and years of time to be able to figure out to really owns land in brasil.

Where are all these new hotels and shopping areas being built and who is putting up the money behind it? The people I know, work specificaly in the real estate business, so I trust what they say. It would be interesting to hear your 2 cents on this.

Beach Star
11-02-10, 00:08
Wow, talk about two different stories! I just got the exact opposite story that you got! The people that I know say there are major players who want to invest milions into hotels and shopping malls, but they cant do it because of the corruption that permeates everything in Brasil. They told me that there are arabic companies that have been trying to purchase huge parcels of land in barra but there are so many sheisty real estate agencies that have fake "official" documents, they have to turn down the deals. It would take an army of lawyers and years of time to be able to figure out to really owns land in brasil.

Where are all these new hotels and shopping areas being built and who is putting up the money behind it? The people I know, work specificaly in the real estate business, so I trust what they say. It would be interesting to hear your 2 cents on this.

This is nonsense. Brazil will build at least 10 new hotels, just in Barra, before the olympics. There will be massive hotel development in other parts of Rio.
Your Arabs, by the way, which country do they come from which is less corrupt than Brazil???

Beach Star
11-02-10, 00:11
Do you really think Rio and Brazil give a shit about mongers? What mongers spend in Brazil is a drop in the bucket in terms of the overall economy. Sure some low-life apartment and bar owners might take a financial hit - but the country is going through permanent changes. I have been securing business deals with companies that are finally making the plunge in Brazil after years of watching from the sidelines. They say the conditions are finally right.

The hotel is probably closing to be renovated for the 2014 World Cup and 2016 Olympics. There are actually major investments being made in the hotel and hospitality sector throughout Brazil.

The way things are going, mongers may find the US cheaper than Rio in the near future. I was just in Vegas and even on a Halloween weekend that town is dead. Empty malls, shopping centers and office parks. Foreclosures everywhere. Casinos are slow and they are giving away rooms and food. Of course, the women in the US will never give the level of service as in Brazil.

I'll be back in Brazil starting mid-November for 3 months after being in the states for the past 2 months. Can't wait. Very depressing in the U.S. now.
Correct on all counts Hughdad. For anybody who has recently been inside the Othon Palace, it really needs a facelift.

Always Horny #2
11-02-10, 02:33
I am in the early planning stages of my post divorce trip. The ink isn't even dry on the judgement, but my plans are in motion for a mid-March jaunt. I was strongly considering Thailand, but I love nothing more than a perfect ass so Rio won the battle.

I copied the post from a few months back because it is the only one that really gave me any hope...to land a "regular" woman or at the very least a part time worker. I guess I hoped to find someone similar to my Sosua experience where I picked up a smoking hot cutie and fucked for days without even the slightest mention of money. In the end, I did give her roughly $200 but it was unsolicited.

Let me state that I don't/won't ever judge anyone, but I'm not attracted to pro's. Also, the thought of dfk with a girl that has done the same with a few guys back to back doesn't sit well with me. I guess I'm weird because I like for women to at least appear to be strongly attracted to me and not just after my money. If I decide to go to Rio afterall, I will nit visit any termas. If my luck is running low and my passion high, I will order room service from an escort agency.

To the point...I am in my mid-thirties and I get a lot of attention from women wherever I go. I'm in great shape, I got a nice face, some charm, and I earn a nice living. Maybe I'm concerned about gambling my ego, but my goal is to meet a regular girl and perhaps establish a connection. No, I'm not looking for love, but I'm seeking that level of passion that rarely happens in the states. The US women are such lame fucks! Tis the reason for my divorce...LOL

Maybe when I'm in my fifties I will happy from the simple thrill of being with a young hottie, but I'm not there yet. Just mere thought of the hunt gets me excited. I want to know where the upscale brasillians eat, sleep, party, and relax! ;-)

Please somebody HELP. The recent posts has really depressed me! Is there any hope?




Thanks guys - it was fun to write. I got a "woodie" just thinking about my little "garota da sannduiche" again.

Admittedly, I have not been to Rio since HELP! closed and I am very curious to feel the difference (if any) from a mongering perspective. What I have noticed is a chance in the tone of the reports on this forum regarding Rio. Is it just me or do any of you also notice a difference? What I don't see as much as these days are some of the wild ass reports that we used to see from the pure "sex tourists".

A few more thoughts regarding my earlier post, like in most cultures, the upper class girls have a lot more to lose if they are "outed" as being GDP or even just as being "slutty". They have a certain social status and want to protect it. If they live in Zona Sul, the LAST thing one of these girls need is for word to get out that she is fucking a gringo for fear that they will be under suspicion for being a WG. But that doesn't mean they don't like to fuck and that doesn't mean they don't like to fuck gringos.

I know a business colleague from NYC who come to Rio about 4 times a year. He has a GF who runs a small art gallery in Copa. Clearly upper class, has money, married w/ 2 kids, smoking hot body and screws my buddy's brains out usually once a trip. In the middle of the day she arrives at the hotel dolled up like Bridget Bardot with an art folio under her arm. She strolls into the Marriott or Fasano like she owns the place, goes up to the front desk and asks which room Sr. Jim is in and to call and announce her arrival. Then she goes up and they "look at art". Shya - right.

According to Jim, she is an animal when it comes to sex who loves to do all sorts or naughty things (use your imagination) that her husband won't do. They have even met up in SP and I think once in Buzios (but they almost got caught by a friend of hers).

So what are we talking about here? She's having an affair with Jim. No big deal. Happens all the time. Frankly, I think that's a goal for all of us. Sure he buys art from her, but he loves art and would do so either way. He certainly doesn't pay her apart from hotel expenses. But I am sure he might bring her a gift once on a while. I have a similar arrangement with a Real Estate broker in Moscow and it's great. I'm also banging a 22 year old art student in Moscow. she certainly is not a pro. However, I stuff some cash in her purse when she's in the head. She's a student and she needs it. No need to embarrass her.

Here's my point - in addition to bagging GDP and hitting the Termas (nothing wrong with either), take your game up a notch and strike up a flirtatious relationship with a bar girl, the receptionist at the hotel, the attendant at the gym, or a shop girl. See where it goes. Call it a "project". You may be surprised at what happens when you just relax and treat them like normal women. Once she is relaxed and comfortable with you, it's only a matter of time until that hot Latin blood starts to boil and nature takes over. After all, they are Brazilian!!!

I dunno, maybe I am just getting old (52) and lazy, but IMHO this is more fun and adds a different dimension to the mongering scene.

Like the guy in the Dos Equis commerical says, "Stay thirsty my friends"

Bubba Boy
11-02-10, 02:56
A Brazilian politician receives the 3 following quotes for a new bridge.

US Company $2 billion
UK Company $2.5 billion
Brazilian Company $4 billion.

The Brazilian politician wants to give it to the Brazilian company but is puzzled by the price, hence gives the contractor a call.

Brazilian Politician: “why are you so expensive, the US company can do it for $2 billion, the UK company can do it for $2.5 billion, why are you quoting $4 billion.

Brazilian Contractor: “well that’s easy, there is $1 billion for me, $1 billion for you and then we need to pay the US company $2 billion to build the damn bridge.

Brazilian Politician: "ok then its settled, contract goes to the Brazilian company".

Bravo
11-02-10, 03:05
This is nonsense. Brazil will build at least 10 new hotels, just in Barra, before the olympics. There will be massive hotel development in other parts of Rio.
Your Arabs, by the way, which country do they come from which is less corrupt than Brazil???


You must have missed my question. I asked WHERE in Bara? WHERE in rio is all this new developement happening? I am looking for actual details like street addresses.

Not saying you are wrong, but my thoughts are "What the hell will happen to those 10 new hotels after the Olympics?!" It will costs hundreds of millions to build 10 new hotels in Barra, They cant possibly make enough money in the short few weeks of the Olympics to cover the cost of building the hotel. Plus, there is no way in hell tourism will suport that many hotels in barra after the games are over.

Hughdad
11-02-10, 03:09
Wow, talk about two different stories! I just got the exact opposite story that you got! The people that I know say there are major players who want to invest milions into hotels and shopping malls, but they can't do it because of the corruption that permeates everything in Brasil. They told me that there are arabic companies that have been trying to purchase huge parcels of land in barra but there are so many sheisty real estate agencies that have fake "official" documents, they have to turn down the deals. It would take an army of lawyers and years of time to be able to figure out to really owns land in brasil.

Where are all these new hotels and shopping areas being built and who is putting up the money behind it? The people I know, work specificaly in the real estate business, so I trust what they say. It would be interesting to hear your 2 cents on this.Tons of investments and development all over Brazil. Not sure about your isolated deal with the Barra land deal example, or what may come of the Orthon hotel specifically. I was at Nordeste Invest conference in Natal earlier this year and tons of business was being transacted. I am in the middle of a number of real estate, development and investment dealings. Yes, there is a real need to have someone knowledgable you trust involved in the dealings. But investors want into this marketplace. All over Brazil.

Hughdad
11-02-10, 03:25
You must have missed my question. I asked WHERE in Bara? WHERE in Rio is all this new developement happening? I am looking for actual details like street addresses.

Not saying you are wrong, but my thoughts are "What the hell will happen to those 10 new hotels after the Olympics?! " It will costs hundreds of millions to build 10 new hotels in Barra, They can't possibly make enough money in the short few weeks of the Olympics to cover the cost of building the hotel. Plus, there is no way in hell tourism will suport that many hotels in barra after the games are over.Many countries spend small fortunes redeveloping a city for the Olympic games. It is a a showcase for Brazil (coupled with the 2014 World Cup). Many of the sports venues will be converted to facilities for citizens. And Brazil is aiming at dramatically growing tourism into the country (not just mongers!) The country will change dramatically. Many old timers here can't accept thta. Hell, my lady does not accepot it because she heard it all before. Different now.

JohnnyBlazze
11-02-10, 03:57
Guys - with everything I am reading on the forum I guess it apparent that it's not worth heading down to Rio. I have heard that it has not been the same since Help has closed. Need to find a new international spot. I am gonna miss my days there, its a shame.

Johnny B

Member #3439
11-02-10, 05:04
No, I'm not looking for love, but I'm seeking that level of passion that rarely happens in the states. The US women are such lame fucks! Tis the reason for my divorce...LOL


Try dating a US woman with lower socio-economic status than yourself, like you would probably be doing in Brasil. An urban retail worker or small town girl. Small town girls in the US are just as much fun as favela girls and will look up to you in the same way. If you have stylish clothes and seem successful and worldly, as you probably are, you'd be the alpha male in most small towns. The grass is always greener... I've never heard any Brasilian colleagues bragging about their passionate wives, they keep mistresses and when the mistress is being a 'lame fuck' too, they hit up the termas/casas for strange T&A just like the gringos. Except that whenever I've gone to a puta club with married Brasilian guys, they are like kids in the candy store, moreso than the married gringos..big smiles and talking about it for days!

JohnnyBlazze

I have to respectfully disagree with you. Rio isn't/wasn't all about Help or even the greater Zona Sul scene. Check my last Rio reports from late June/Early July. Other than Pattaya, Angeles City or Jakarta I am not sure else where I could have possibly had so much affordable fun. 7 days, 21 girls, tons of memories and not much money. And it's so easy in Rio: transit, girls, food, attractions.

Bad Boy Billy
11-02-10, 06:29
"What the hell will happen to those 10 new hotels after the Olympics?!" It will costs hundreds of millions to build 10 new hotels in Barra, They cant possibly make enough money in the short few weeks of the Olympics to cover the cost of building the hotel. Plus, there is no way in hell tourism will suport that many hotels in barra after the games are over.Exactly the same situation as Beijing - post the Olympics there is a huge over supply of 5 star hotel rooms - throw in GFC and the hotels are all fighting each other for market share - wonderful scenario for the traveller.

Bubba Boy
11-02-10, 10:17
BB -- I'm so glad you are back around; learned so much from you and I have to give up all credit to you for me being a Rio expert now! My boys and I first trip was back in 2007 and it revolved around your guide. My Buddy even made a mini movie with all our pictures and the beginning is dedicated to you; you will have to see it one day, funny ass s**t!!

Regards,

Musze3000
Thanks for that, sorry I replied late, thought I did but the post never went through.

Ricker
11-02-10, 15:17
... Let me state that I don't/won't ever judge anyone, but I'm not attracted to pro's. ...

... To the point...I am in my mid-thirties and I get a lot of attention from women wherever I go. I'm in great shape, I got a nice face, some charm, and I earn a nice living. Maybe I'm concerned about gambling my ego, but my goal is to meet a regular girl and perhaps establish a connection. No, I'm not looking for love, but I'm seeking that level of passion that rarely happens in the states ...

... Maybe when I'm in my fifties I will happy from the simple thrill of being with a young hottie, but I'm not there yet. Just mere thought of the hunt gets me excited. I want to know where the upscale brasillians eat, sleep, party, and relax! ;-)

Please somebody HELP. The recent posts has really depressed me! Is there any hope?

I like to mix it up myself.
I enjoy the non-pro girlfriend for hangin out, exploring together, dinners, the love, etc.
The pros are nice to add a little variety to life, try out a different cereal (ie Billy Crystal, City Slickers) :)

I would say the most important quality in being able to jive with the non-pros is your ability to communicate.
I'm assuming you speak good Portuguese, because your looks, charm and nice living aren't gonna get ya far with non-pros if you can't really mix it up with 'em.

Also, IMO, because of the rep of the sex-tourist in Rio, and the possible subsequent connotation of a girl hanging with a gringo (western guy), especially with one who doesn't speak the language, I find it much easier to meet and date non-pros in Sao Paulo where the sex-tourist is not near as prevalent.

I've had good success there (SP) myself, however, the traffic is horrible and there is no beach within walking distance.

Good luck.

Hughdad
11-02-10, 15:24
I am in the early planning stages of my post divorce trip. The ink isn't even dry on the judgement, but my plans are in motion for a mid-March jaunt. I was strongly considering Thailand, but I love nothing more than a perfect ass so Rio won the battle.

I copied the post from a few months back because it is the only one that really gave me any hope. To land a "regular" woman or at the very least a part time worker. I guess I hoped to find someone similar to my Sosua experience where I picked up a smoking hot cutie and fucked for days without even the slightest mention of money. In the end, I did give her roughly $200 but it was unsolicited.

Let me state that I don't/won't ever judge anyone, but I'm not attracted to pro's. Also, the thought of dfk with a girl that has done the same with a few guys back to back doesn't sit well with me. I guess I'm weird because I like for women to at least appear to be strongly attracted to me and not just after my money. If I decide to go to Rio afterall, I will nit visit any termas. If my luck is running low and my passion high, I will order room service from an escort agency.

To the point. I am in my mid-thirties and I get a lot of attention from women wherever I go. I'm in great shape, I got a nice face, some charm, and I earn a nice living. Maybe I'm concerned about gambling my ego, but my goal is to meet a regular girl and perhaps establish a connection. No, I'm not looking for love, but I'm seeking that level of passion that rarely happens in the states. The US women are such lame fucks! Tis the reason for my divorce. LOL

Maybe when I'm in my fifties I will happy from the simple thrill of being with a young hottie, but I'm not there yet. Just mere thought of the hunt gets me excited. I want to know where the upscale brasillians eat, sleep, party, and relax!

Please somebody HELP. The recent posts has really depressed me! Is there any hope?2 things:

1) do you speak Portuguese? If not. Good luck

2) All the "HELP" you seek is contained past archival posts here. Go back and read them. There is even a section about non-pros.

I am in a long term relationship in Brazil now. She moved into my home in Brazil (together with a friend which is working out great). Without knowing any Portuguese. I would not have been able to date her and develop a relationship. I would cook for her and we would talk over dinner.

Do guys meet regular ladies and have short term non-paying flings? Yes, rarely, but I would say that speaking Portuguese is a must on top of your great looks.

And you can get great passion in a paid session. Amazing how you can just meet someone and spend a few hours with them and they can give you a great GFE experience, and then you can have another with someone else a half hour later.

And not all US women suck. There are always great opportunities everywhere. Don't generalize.

Bubba Boy
11-02-10, 22:29
I am just updating my guide. Just wondering if anyone has been to the following places. I intend to visit them all but would like some input before going. Anyone been and can say it is decent or a train wreck?

Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana nº 583 (street number)

Sala 203 Price - ?
Sale 204 Price - ?
Sala 209 Price - ?

Rua Tonelero, nº 169. Copacabana. (Copa Massagem). 10am -10pm Mon. to Sat.
Price R$ ?

Rua Toneleros nº 171 (near Siquiera Campos). Copacabana. 10am -10pm Mon. to Sat.
Price – ?

Rua Toneleros nº 173 (near Siquiera Campos). Copacabana. 10am -10pm Mon. to Sat.
Price – ?

Vittu
11-02-10, 22:49
Try dating a US woman with lower socio-economic status than yourself, like you would probably be doing in Brasil. An urban retail worker or small town girl.
I find this to be good advice. I quit mongering six months ago after a simple, uncomplicated woman befriended me at one of the dating sites. Never had consistently better loving with low expectations, i.e. respect for my complicated status.
It's easy to dream about finding a foreign woman but linguistic and cultural difficulties often sour a relationship before it matures. While I wish the OP luck in Brazil -- or somewhere else -- I would not ignore the possibilities of finding someone in the U.S.
The so-called sex prison is nicknamed that because we are willing prisoners by not considering the thousands and thousands of good women looking for good guys like us. Interestingly, many of the candidates seem to be employed in health care-related jobs. They can suck and fuck as well as Filipino nursing students, take my word for that.

Prosal
11-02-10, 22:56
To the point...I am in my mid-thirties and I get a lot of attention from women wherever I go. I'm in great shape, I got a nice face, some charm, and I earn a nice living. Maybe I'm concerned about gambling my ego, but my goal is to meet a regular girl and perhaps establish a connection. No, I'm not looking for love, but I'm seeking that level of passion that rarely happens in the states. The US women are such lame fucks! Tis the reason for my divorce...LOL

Maybe when I'm in my fifties I will happy from the simple thrill of being with a young hottie, but I'm not there yet. Just mere thought of the hunt gets me excited. I want to know where the upscale brasillians eat, sleep, party, and relax! ;-) You're targeting the wrong country. Upscale brasileiras have very little respect for foreign mongers, and a very very high opinion of their fellow countrymen. In Brasil, girls have already tons of good-looking, sporty, fun and wealthy (and sometimes filthy rich) horny brasilian guys, with who they share the same cultural interests, waiting in line at their feet begging to please them. They don't need "never to be seen again after their 10 days sex holidays" gringos. For middle to upper-class brasilian girls, a sex-hungry gringo is about at the same level than a cockroach. Of course, you will be able to fuck lower class girls, but they won't fuck you because of your charm or your game, but because they see benefit in doing so.

This is the huge difference with FSU, where dyevuskas, and especially the most learned and worldly, jump on any occasion to fuck a decent looking,witty and well-travelled foreigner. Contrarily to brasileiras, fucking their fellow countrymen is a chore FSU dyevs have to do, not something they particularly enjoy. And they are much wilder. I personally score more non-pros during one week in Chisinau or Tashkent than during two monthes in Goiania, Rio or wherever in Brasil.

The reason why there's so many Russian (or Ukrainian, Belarus, ect) top-level women available is simple. So many FSU men are just gopniks - sort of white trash. Gopniks are uncultured, badly dressed, broke, violent, dumb, stupid, they drink and smoke in the corridors of their Soviet housing blocks. The reality in this part of the world (contrarily to Brasil) is that the "eligible male" to female ratio is maybe something like 1:10. And the farther away you get from the big cities cosmopolitan bowels the more gopnik the guys get. In fact it's a wonder that provincial FSU women don't throw themselves at ANY foreigner.

Honestly, if you are decent looking and have a bit of game and of cash, better you go East.

Always Horny #2
11-03-10, 01:39
Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it and I LISTEN.

Perhaps, I was just a tad misunderstood. I know that my quest might be quite difficult, but for my sick pleasure nothing provides more fulfillment than the victory in battle. It is me against the hardcore pro's. I really hate those *****s. Given the exorbitant amounts paid and then receive sub par service is unacceptable!

Look, I know the game all to well. Women will basically do what you allow them to do. Act like a chump and you will get treated like one. I guess it doesn't matter to you volume guys, but I ALWAYS prefer quality over quantity. I may not exceed 3 women in my two weeks in Rio, but you better believe that I am not going to settle for some piranha!

The sex is always more passionate when you treat women with respect and show genuine interest. We all have different goals. I like going to nice dinners, dancing etc. with the company of a woman. I'm flying solo and I am going to need to do something other than drink and ogle chicks. Why not learn a little culture and maybe create a memorable experience along the way?

Yes, I've been busting my ass to get as comfortable as I possibly can speaking Portugese. I have almost five more months before my trip so hopefully I will gain a decent vocabulary. I understand that you can only sit and smile at each other for so long...LOL I am trying to be as realistic as possible about my odds.

Basically, I wanted to get an idea of the current atmosphere. I assume that I will be able to shag at least a semi-pro or part-timer. I would be terribly disappointed if I only ran into hardcore putas. There is a difference. Plus, it lessens my chances that I will be lapping up the previous guys jism.

Mr Enternational
11-03-10, 02:00
Do you really think Rio and Brazil give a shit about mongers? What mongers spend in Brazil is a drop in the bucket in terms of the overall economy. Sure some low-life apartment and bar owners might take a financial hit - but the country is going through permanent changes. I have been securing business deals with companies that are finally making the plunge in Brazil after years of watching from the sidelines. They say the conditions are finally right.Funny how some people can't differentiate between one corner and an entire country.

Potemkin
11-03-10, 02:50
I asked this question on the Carnival Forum, but nobody replied there (that Forum seems dead, at least at this time). And than again, I admit, it is a silly question...

Well, my question was about Rio, so let me ask it here as well. I have a chance of visiting Rio during the Carnival; yet I do not have to go during that time, can find some other time to visit. I would like someone who is familiar with Rio and its Carnival tell me: is it worth trying to visit during the Carnival? I would like to meet the girls, of course. Will it be more difficult at that time? Is everything much more expensive and more difficult? Is the Carnival REALLY special, or just a lot of niusance?

B J Lover
11-03-10, 03:21
I am just updating my guide. Just wondering if anyone has been to the following places. I intend to visit them all but would like some input before going. Anyone been and can say it is decent or a train wreck?

Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana nº 583 (street number)

Sala 203 Price - ?
Sale 204 Price - ?
Sala 209 Price - ?

Rua Tonelero, nº 169. Copacabana. (Copa Massagem). 10am -10pm Mon. to Sat.
Price R$ ?

Rua Toneleros nº 171 (near Siquiera Campos). Copacabana. 10am -10pm Mon. to Sat.
Price – ?

Rua Toneleros nº 173 (near Siquiera Campos). Copacabana. 10am -10pm Mon. to Sat.
Price – ?

Bubba, my apartment is actually in 583 av ns copa. I'll check all these out for you in 2 weeks. You can imagine I'm looking forward to coming down to 2nd floor in my robe, directly from my apt.

Hughdad
11-03-10, 14:39
I asked this question on the Carnival Forum, but nobody replied there (that Forum seems dead, at least at this time). And than again, I admit, it is a silly question.

Well, my question was about Rio, so let me ask it here as well. I have a chance of visiting Rio during the Carnival; yet I do not have to go during that time, can find some other time to visit. I would like someone who is familiar with Rio and its Carnival tell me: is it worth trying to visit during the Carnival? I would like to meet the girls, of course. Will it be more difficult at that time? Is everything much more expensive and more difficult? Is the Carnival REALLY special, or just a lot of niusance?You're right, you are silly to ask a question that has been discussed at length in these forums. Don't be lazy, go through them and read them.

Hughdad
11-03-10, 15:10
Funny how some people can't differentiate between one corner and an entire country.Not quite sure what you are attempting to say here. But some mongers like to romantize about their importance in Brazil.

Mongers contribute every little to the overall economy. A pitence. I spend 6 months a year in Brazil (mostly Rio, SP and my home city). It has become increasingly difficult to book hotel rooms, domestic flights and buses. I need to book further in advance. I see more and more foreigners in hotels and airports. And I am actually involved with a company that is expanding its' charter flight business taking Brazilians to foreign destinations. There are more and more opportunities inside the country everyday. And once the majority of Brazilians themselves come to accept this as fact, then things will take off even more. Some guys are acting as if they are going to run the Olympics on top of Rio as it exists now. Major changes underway.

Hughdad
11-03-10, 15:20
Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it and I LISTEN.

Perhaps, I was just a tad misunderstood. I know that my quest might be quite difficult, but for my sick pleasure nothing provides more fulfillment than the victory in battle. It is me against the hardcore pro's. I really hate those *****s. Given the exorbitant amounts paid and then receive sub par service is unacceptable!

Look, I know the game all to well. Women will basically do what you allow them to do. Act like a chump and you will get treated like one. I guess it doesn't matter to you volume guys, but I ALWAYS prefer quality over quantity. I may not exceed 3 women in my two weeks in Rio, but you better believe that I am not going to settle for some piranha!

The sex is always more passionate when you treat women with respect and show genuine interest. We all have different goals. I like going to nice dinners, dancing etc. with the company of a woman. I'm flying solo and I am going to need to do something other than drink and ogle chicks. Why not learn a little culture and maybe create a memorable experience along the way?

Yes, I've been busting my ass to get as comfortable as I possibly can speaking Portugese. I have almost five more months before my trip so hopefully I will gain a decent vocabulary. I understand that you can only sit and smile at each other for so long...LOL I am trying to be as realistic as possible about my odds.

Basically, I wanted to get an idea of the current atmosphere. I assume that I will be able to shag at least a semi-pro or part-timer. I would be terribly disappointed if I only ran into hardcore putas. There is a difference. Plus, it lessens my chances that I will be lapping up the previous guys jism.If you are looking at wining, dining and dancing your way into a woman's heart - why not stay in the states (Vegas or elsewhere). Lots of women looking for love there. You'll have a lot more in common with them. I understand you are going through a divorce and hate US women (because you are probably projecting they all have the same personality traits as your soon to be ex). But they are a lot of woman in the US looking for an escape from their everyday woes. And contrary to your belief that all US women suck, there are many great ladies there.

Vegas has 13% unemployment, and 1 in 4 homes are in foreclosure. Lots of women looking for some loving diversions with plenty of time on their hands. And restaurants, clubs, rooms and events are really cheap 5 or 6 nights every week. I have a friend that lives there and he is cleaning up.

Rio Bob
11-03-10, 16:20
I asked this question on the Carnival Forum, but nobody replied there (that Forum seems dead, at least at this time). And than again, I admit, it is a silly question...

Well, my question was about Rio, so let me ask it here as well. I have a chance of visiting Rio during the Carnival; yet I do not have to go during that time, can find some other time to visit. I would like someone who is familiar with Rio and its Carnival tell me: is it worth trying to visit during the Carnival? I would like to meet the girls, of course. Will it be more difficult at that time? Is everything much more expensive and more difficult? Is the Carnival REALLY special, or just a lot of niusance?

Sounds like you want to just visit Rio but you are not necessarily interested in Carnaval. If this is the case then I think you answered all of your own questions already. IMHO the best time to go to Rio if you're not interested in Carnaval and the parades then go 1 to several weeks before Carnaval when most of the girls who will be in Rio for Carnaval are already there and most of the tourists are not.

Steve55
11-04-10, 09:34
And contrary to your belief that all US women suck, there are many great ladies there.

Vegas has 13% unemployment, and 1 in 4 homes are in foreclosure. Lots of women looking for some loving diversions with plenty of time on their hands. And restaurants, clubs, rooms and events are really cheap 5 or 6 nights every week. I have a friend that lives there and he is cleaning up.I know you are probably trying to be positive, but really, most US woman suck. Most are materialistic,(especially in relative terms to foreign ladies) selfish, much harder to please, far more demanding, and unfeminine thanks to the feminism that has ruined woman in this country. Go to vegas and all you get are STUCK UP bitches who think they are too good for most guys and just are nothing more than cock teases. NO thanks. Its not impossible to hook up in vegas, but its highly unlikely. Woman are mostly there to feed their egos. My buddies and I have met woman in vegas, but have yet to score on a trip to vegas. We are good looking guys too. Some guys score, most guys dont. Go to most foreign countries and MOST guys score. Nuff said.

Jsm1393
11-04-10, 19:10
I'm entertained by this thread about finding a relationship after a divorce. I've come to realize that no matter how intense the sex, easygoing or passionate (or whatever floats my boat at the moment) the woman, I grow tired of the sex in any relationship after a couple of years, max. For me, the mongering is the fulfillment of my innate need for variety and excitement. My wife is quite pretty and her looks and body beat many of the Pros I go after where I live or where I travel. I just can't get excited for her more often than once a week or maybe even less. Someone told me a joke supposedly in a Chris Rock bit: "Show me the hottest wife in the world, and I'll show you a dude who's tired of fuckin' her!"

I do enjoy her company and won't divorce her because I don't need a replacement, I just need to augment my sex life. So, I find ways to spend time in AMPs, go to Rio, Fortaleza, etc. My advice? Keep many loving ST relationships, and you will enjoy life more. Maybe get married when you're 65 or older and need a hot young thing to take care of you =)


I find this to be good advice. I quit mongering six months ago after a simple, uncomplicated woman befriended me at one of the dating sites. Never had consistently better loving with low expectations, i.e. respect for my complicated status.
It's easy to dream about finding a foreign woman but linguistic and cultural difficulties often sour a relationship before it matures. While I wish the OP luck in Brazil -- or somewhere else -- I would not ignore the possibilities of finding someone in the U.S.
The so-called sex prison is nicknamed that because we are willing prisoners by not considering the thousands and thousands of good women looking for good guys like us. Interestingly, many of the candidates seem to be employed in health care-related jobs. They can suck and fuck as well as Filipino nursing students, take my word for that.

Bubba Boy
11-04-10, 19:18
I'm entertained by this thread about finding a relationship after a divorce. I've come to realize that no matter how intense the sex, easygoing or passionate (or whatever floats my boat at the moment) the woman, I grow tired of the sex in any relationship after a couple of years, max. For me, the mongering is the fulfillment of my innate need for variety and excitement. My wife is quite pretty and her looks and body beat many of the Pros I go after where I live or where I travel. I just can't get excited for her more often than once a week or maybe even less. Someone told me a joke supposedly in a Chris Rock bit: "Show me the hottest wife in the world, and I'll show you a dude who's tired of fuckin' her!"

I do enjoy her company and won't divorce her because I don't need a replacement, I just need to augment my sex life. So, I find ways to spend time in AMPs, go to Rio, Fortaleza, etc. My advice? Keep many loving ST relationships, and you will enjoy life more. Maybe get married when you're 65 or older and need a hot young thing to take care of you =)


Excellent advice.

Ricker
11-04-10, 22:33
I'm entertained by this thread about finding a relationship after a divorce. I've come to realize that no matter how intense the sex, easygoing or passionate (or whatever floats my boat at the moment) the woman, I grow tired of the sex in any relationship after a couple of years, max. For me, the mongering is the fulfillment of my innate need for variety and excitement. My wife is quite pretty and her looks and body beat many of the Pros I go after where I live or where I travel. I just can't get excited for her more often than once a week or maybe even less. Someone told me a joke supposedly in a Chris Rock bit: "Show me the hottest wife in the world, and I'll show you a dude who's tired of fuckin' her!"

I do enjoy her company and won't divorce her because I don't need a replacement, I just need to augment my sex life. So, I find ways to spend time in AMPs, go to Rio, Fortaleza, etc. My advice? Keep many loving ST relationships, and you will enjoy life more. Maybe get married when you're 65 or older and need a hot young thing to take care of you =)

Well damn, sure glad I'm not the only one who feels like this!!! :)
GREAT post!!

Hughdad
11-04-10, 22:59
I know you are probably trying to be positive, but really, most US woman suck. Most are materialistic,(especially in relative terms to foreign ladies) selfish, much harder to please, far more demanding, and unfeminine thanks to the feminism that has ruined woman in this country. Go to vegas and all you get are STUCK UP bitches who think they are too good for most guys and just are nothing more than cock teases. NO thanks. Its not impossible to hook up in vegas, but its highly unlikely. Woman are mostly there to feed their egos. My buddies and I have met woman in vegas, but have yet to score on a trip to vegas. We are good looking guys too. Some guys score, most guys dont. Go to most foreign countries and MOST guys score. Nuff said.Get off the Vegas strip and hit the 1,000's of locals bars and smaller properties. You'll meet lots of available women who live in Vegas. I went out with him (he lives in Henderson) and it was a great vibe, lots of available ladies and he was scoring (and he is just an average guy with a great rap and personality). And, no, most US women don't suck. Most US guys (and I am one) are real selfish, egotistical dicks. Acknowledge that, and understand most US women are starting from that perspective and you can be successful with ladies in the US. Humor, kindness and confidence. And, yeah, most guys score in foreign countries, but have to pay for the trip and the sex. Most casual mongers don't get free sex on their sex vacations.

Always Horny #2
11-05-10, 01:49
Wow, so many assumptions on this board. Sorry, but I don't get excited by dirty tramps that see more than five guys a day. IMHO, it is nasty and dangerous! I left my wife because we never connected the way I desire. Been with my ex for 16 years...at a very early age. A relationship is the LAST thing on my mind. I am enjoying life and doing everything I always wanted to do.

BTW, I just left Vegas two months ago. I shagged a wealthy woman from the NW and the sex was lame! The first night I met six different women and every single time the cock clocked, so I chose someone a little bit more mature. It was great conversation, but lacked passion. I don't go to Vegas to buy pussy.

My problem these days is that my interest doesn't last after the third encounter with any woman. I have always fantasized about sex with a hot Brazilian woman. Any slum can go there and throw money around. I'd rather challenge myself and have her ass wide open both figuratively and literally. I don't care how fine she is...I'm not thinking about making a love connection.

Damn, let me do things my way! It is not about money either. I am not cheap. I spend freely on women if she properly fuels my ego. I will properly spend more over the course of a day on a non pro than than guys drop at Centarus. I feel I got plenty of years left before it is all about money. Im willing to put forth the effort to find a gem.

In closing, I looked in the photo gallery. I was rarely impressed! I'm not coming all the way to Brazil for some average, out of shape, used up piece of ass. I wonder about some if the guys grading scale. I can't wait to post my trip and pics. I will succeed!

Ricker
11-05-10, 02:03
Wow, so many assumptions on this board. Sorry, but I don't get excited by dirty tramps that see more than five guys a day. IMHO, it is nasty and dangerous! I left my wife because we never connected the way I desire. Been with my ex for 16 years...at a very early age. A relationship is the LAST thing on my mind. I am enjoying life and doing everything I always wanted to do.

BTW, I just left Vegas two months ago. I shagged a wealthy woman from the NW and the sex was lame! The first night I met six different women and every single time the cock clocked, so I chose someone a little bit more mature. It was great conversation, but lacked passion. I don't go to Vegas to buy pussy.

My problem these days is that my interest doesn't last after the third encounter with any woman. I have always fantasized about sex with a hot Brazilian woman. Any slum can go there and throw money around. I'd rather challenge myself and have her ass wide open both figuratively and literally. I don't care how fine she is...I'm not thinking about making a love connection.

Damn, let me do things my way! It is not about money either. I am not cheap. I spend freely on women if she properly fuels my ego. I will properly spend more over the course of a day on a non pro than than guys drop at Centarus. I feel I got plenty of years left before it is all about money. Im willing to put forth the effort to find a gem.

In closing, I looked in the photo gallery. I was rarely impressed! I'm not coming all the way to Brazil for some average, out of shape, used up piece of ass. I wonder about some if the guys grading scale. I can't wait to post my trip and pics. I will succeed!

You seem like a truly amazing guy ... do yourself a favor and learn the language ... you'll be even more amazing.
Hard to charm a girl with Kindergarten portuguese.

Have fun!!