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Thank you for a nice report.
Did you notice the adress of the cheap casa?
Was it on the sidestreet with the small flowershops (Praça Olavo Bilac 13 or 15)?Hi.
Yes it was opposite the flowershop, at the second floor.
BL
Hi.
Yes it was opposite the flowershop, at the second floor.
BLThanks.
There are at least two casa on Praça Olavo Bilac, no 13 and 15. Judging by the nasty cabin it's propably no 15.
No 13 is quite decent.
Azn Safado
03-08-12, 04:13
I went to Monte Carlo yesterday since it was coupon day, where you get R$80 off of the cabine if you bring the coupon from their website and do a 40 minute session. Their current price structure is:
Entrada. R$80.
Cabine. R$80.
Garota. R$200.
I got there around 8:15 pm and there were about 25 girls and 4 guys in the boite. I found a girl to chat with after 30 minutes. I don't even remember her name though. Her face looked like Beyonce but her body was nice and slim. She was born in Sao Paulo but has been living in Rio for 10 years. She spoke pretty good English. That's really neither good nor bad for me because I can speak both languages, although of course I'm way better at English. Some people on this board say beware of the English speakers as they tend to be hustlers. Anyway, I can't say I've had any bad sessions with English speakers. It doesn't necessarily mean they are going to work less hard in the cabine. Maybe if you try to cultivate a relationship with them, then the hustle begins.
She had pretty good kissing skills in the boite. Once we got up to the cabine, she did some slow strip tease. Kind of a yawner to me. Then she took some K-Y jelly out of her bag, along with 2 condoms, and put it on the bedside counter. I was like "uh oh, here comes a robot". I have this weird thing about GDP's using K-Y jelly for vaginal sex. It just seems to me that they aren't into it if they have to use lube. Or they are turned off by me, which in turn, turns me off. Ha. Of course they aren't going to all be turned on by a "john". I guess it's just my warped perception because only 1 out of every 6 or so girls that I session with have to use the K-Y. Then again, even a sexual dynamo porn star like Paola Rey once said in an interview that she is naturally dry and almost always needs to use artificial lube, so who knows. Anyway, in this case, this girl was pretty robotic and lame. She immediately put K-Y in her hand and gave me a hand job, at which point I was like "I guess the CBJ" comes next. And of course it did. I've only had CBJ at a Copa terma about 3 out of 100 times, so it's not the end of the world for me like it is for some people if it happens. As for the rest of the session, it was pretty much a dud, no enthusiasm from the girl.
I've had a couple of duds and some fantastic sessions at Monte Carlo. This bad session won't deter me from going again, especially since I saw this beautiful loira that looked like a 20-year old Estella Warren that I want to test drive next time. I was able to get out of there with R$280 damage for a 40-minute session, which is as low as it is going to get for a Tier-1 Copa terma these days. One other thing Monte Carlo has going for it is its Frequent Fuckers program, so I'll be getting free entry on my next trip there.
New prices at 4 X 4: 40 minute session will run BR220 and 1 hour is now BR240! Any one with boots on the ground wish to confirm the new price structure? If so, please post the full menu prices of the Terma. Thank you.
I will be in Rio over the Easter weekend and the following week. I guess action will be low / nonexistant on Good Friday and Easter Saturday? Termas and prives shut? What about the week after easter? How quickly will things get back to normal? Thanks in advance.
New prices at 4 X 4: 40 minute session will run BR220 and 1 hour is now BR240! Any one with boots on the ground wish to confirm the new price structure? If so, please post the full menu prices of the Terma. Thank you.Yes that be so. The whiskeria is now R$50 minimum consumption, was R$30.
Ok I have finally finished the update of the Bubba Boy guide. Came in at 55 pages, so a bit smaller. More of an update of prices rather than much new. Will post on the weekend.
HoleRanger
03-10-12, 18:40
Bubba Boy!
Just wanted to say thanks we really do appreciate the time and effort you invest to provide the Bubba Boy Guide.
I have been waiting for it, I will be back in Rio in a few weeks!
Ok I have finally finished the update of the Bubba Boy guide. Came in at 55 pages, so a bit smaller. More of an update of prices rather than much new. Will post on the weekend.Thank you. Look forward to the update for 2012.
Bubba Boy!
Just wanted to say thanks we really do appreciate the time and effort you invest to provide the Bubba Boy Guide.
I have been waiting for it, I will be back in Rio in a few weeks!I thank you, and a special shout out to Eric Cartman for his editorial work and Sperto's tireless efforts in making the guide better.
Enjoy and please keep any comments or corrections about the guide to this section please.
Bubba Boy's Rio Guide is a bible for any Rio Monger.
I've read it before and skimmed through it again just now. It covers just about everything you need to know about mongering in Rio.
Every newbie should study it thoroughly, and it's also a must-read for any Rio veteran.
Bubba has put a lot of hard work in this guide. Thank you to Mestre Bubba.
Eric Cartman
03-11-12, 14:28
Bubba Boy's Rio Guide is a bible for any Rio Monger.
I've read it before and skimmed through it again just now. It covers just about everything you need to know about mongering in Rio.
Every newbie should study it thoroughly, and it's also a must-read for any Rio veteran.
Bubba has put a lot of hard work in this guide. Thank you to Mestre Bubba.The new section about how to save money while eating well at kilo joints is fan-Fucking-tastic! Stick it to the man!
The new section about how to save money while eating well at kilo joints is fan-Fucking-tastic! Stick it to the man!
I missed that part. Very fun to read and also very true.
Eating comida a quilo at Aipo Aipim can easily cost you R$20-30, which is quite absurd.
In Centro there are many cheap options. Some lunch restaurants have all you can eat for a cheap price. They are mostly frequented by simple workers. The quality is decent. It's very impressive to see how the lunch guests manage to pile up giant plates of rice, beans, faroffa, spaghetti, fries, chicken and meat.
In nordeste it's way much cheaper to have lunch. You can have a decent lunch for R$5.
I love just about all brazilian food, but I had a typical nordestino dish two weeks ago that was quite different, mocotó. It's like a stew made of the hoof from a cow. Quite tasty.
Another fabulous update to the best resource you can find on mongering in Rio. Congratulations.
I'm not sure if Bubba has me on ignore (no offence. I know I can inadvertently upset someone occasionally without even knowing it) , but I don't seem to get a reply.
However, one small point on the international airport. The Rio Airport bus ('Real') is now Rs12, not 8. 50. Just turn right coming out of the airport building, the bus stop is at end of the kerbside parking area. *Also, miraculously and I don't know how long it will last, but *one* of the taxi booths, off to the left past the others, is actually charging normal prices, I couldn't fathom it. Domestic GIG arrivals are as bad as the worst at international. Their price list had Copa at Rs99. Roughly double the proper metered and published fare.
JayHighFive
03-11-12, 20:55
I will be in Rio over the Easter weekend and the following week. I guess action will be low / nonexistant on Good Friday and Easter Saturday? Termas and prives shut? What about the week after easter? How quickly will things get back to normal? Thanks in advance.During the holiday everything will be closed. There will be some stragelers at the Balcony but as usual noting to write home about. Things will be okay after the holiday. This applys to any holiday in Brazil.
VM will be open. But holidays, like weekends only more so, are a good time to have made advance arrangements privately with girls.
Can't thank you guys enough! Heading back end of May will read up for sure.
Cheers.
I thank you, and a special shout out to Eric Cartman for his editorial work and Sperto's tireless efforts in making the guide better.
Enjoy and please keep any comments or corrections about the guide to this section please.
Another fabulous update to the best resource you can find on mongering in Rio. Congratulations.
I'm not sure if Bubba has me on ignore (no offence. I know I can inadvertently upset someone occasionally without even knowing it) , but I don't seem to get a reply.
However, one small point on the international airport. The Rio Airport bus ('Real') is now Rs12, not 8. 50. Just turn right coming out of the airport building, the bus stop is at end of the kerbside parking area. *Also, miraculously and I don't know how long it will last, but *one* of the taxi booths, off to the left past the others, is actually charging normal prices, I couldn't fathom it. Domestic GIG arrivals are as bad as the worst at international. Their price list had Copa at Rs99. Roughly double the proper metered and published fare.Thanks for the update on the price. Hard to keep up with them all. I don't have you on ignore, I just don't log on anymore. I think I log on once a month or so and then most Pm's subjects have expired. For the record I have about 3 people on ignore, one has to be a complete asshole to make it onto my ignore list.
I see residents are actually protesting *against* an extra Metro stop in Ipanema. Apparently it will mean "removing trees vital for the area's air quality, and bringing in people *from outside the neighbourhood*"
Do they mean people who don't carry less than Rs50 notes, or just dirty filthy mongers and the establishments they like to visit? . Actually Ipanema would be quite a nice area to monger in if it had three Metro stops and some nice reasonable privées.
Not to mention an infrastructure for the Olympics.
http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2011/10/moradores-de-ipanema-protestam-contra-nova-estacao-de-metro.html
A further point on which these offer excellent value, especially the best ones listed by Bubba and Sperto, is that when you book an hour the girl is probably more than adept at filling it. I mean in terms of inventive foreplay, decent massage, and GFE sexuality and sensuousness. The VM and 1R a minute girls in the walk-ups (and some of the tier 1 termas in my own limited experience) can be rather poor at this, so taking them home can be a wasted experience unless it is purely for their looks (I'm not too interested in conversation unless it's sexual foreplay related). The privê girls have a reputation to build and keep. Speaking of which, I'd add my own commendation for Bia of Duda's to those of others.
I see residents are actually protesting *against* an extra Metro stop in Ipanema. Apparently it will mean "removing trees vital for the area's air quality, and bringing in people *from outside the neighbourhood*"I think the main problem for the residents in Ipanema is that a metro stop will mean easy access for the residents in Zona Norte. The upper-class wants Ipanema for themselves. The blue-haired ladies wants to be able to walk their poodles without having to see "faveladas".
I think it's very good if they continue building the metro. However a station at Praça Nossa Senhora da Paz seems very close to the station at Praça General Osório. Instead they could open a station at Jardim de Alah.
I think the main problem for the residents in Ipanema is that a metro stop will mean easy access for the residents in Zona Norte. The upper-class wants Ipanema for themselves. The blue-haired ladies wants to be able to walk their poodles without having to see "faveladas".
I think it's very good if they continue building the metro. However a station at Praça Nossa Senhora the Paz seems very close to the station at Praça General OsóRio. Instead they could open a station at Jardim de Alah.I totally agree. Jardim de Alah would be a perfect place considering that both Leblon and Ipanema residents would have access to the Metro.
Ipanema Carioca
03-13-12, 18:43
I think the main problem for the residents in Ipanema is that a metro stop will mean easy access for the residents in Zona Norte. The upper-class wants Ipanema for themselves. The blue-haired ladies wants to be able to walk their poodles without having to see "faveladas".
I think it's very good if they continue building the metro. However a station at Praça Nossa Senhora the Paz seems very close to the station at Praça General OsóRio. Instead they could open a station at Jardim de Alah.On the other side of the coin, maybe the folks in the zona norte would rather not have another station in Ipanema, to keep the gay beach posto 8 crowd deep in Ipanema and out of zona norte. Prejudice can work both ways.
I think the main problem for the residents in Ipanema is that a metro stop will mean easy access for the residents in Zona Norte. The upper-class wants Ipanema for themselves. The blue-haired ladies wants to be able to walk their poodles without having to see "faveladas".
I think it's very good if they continue building the metro. However a station at Praça Nossa Senhora the Paz seems very close to the station at Praça General OsóRio. Instead they could open a station at Jardim de Alah.I agree. In recent times, the disparity between the poor and rich have become more noticeable. Those that have are only trying to protect their class status, as they feel threatened by the pobre presence.
I totally agree. Jardim de Alah would be a perfect place considering that both Leblon and Ipanema residents would have access to the Metro.I understand Jardim de Alah is already approved. The protest was about a third planned one, in between. Class prejudice aside, I actually think it is important to protect neighbourhoods, otherwise people who live there stop caring about them and they degenerate. But stopping progress is not the answer. The easiest way to discourage riff-raff, as the hoi-polloi no doubt think of them, is simply to put prices up (didn't the Niteroi bridge start out like that once upon a time?) The rechargeable card is good idea, but it will still need a quantum leap. If they eventually extend the metro to Barra, it hardly seems fair that there to Centro costs the same as Carioca to Central. Similarly you need to keep rich folk out of poor areas, otherwise it creates a two-tier economy.
It won't deter mongers. But expanding Balcony / Help-type facilities in Copa would probably have actually helped matters. I hate to think of loud and cheery mongers asking neighbours in Saens Pena,"Hey man! Is your haw-house in this building?" people prefer to ignore prostitution in their midst (except in Copa perhaps). Similarly Ipanema is a nice place to take your girlfriend or family just now. Without them having to rub shoulders with paid sex workers and people that can't read or write. I am not prejudiced against such people, everyone is equal, but that is not the same as saying a big mixing pot is always a good idea. Ultimately Rio's class problems will be sorted out by focussing on the favelas, not on keeping Ipanema upper class.
Exec Talent
03-14-12, 18:23
Stopped by Balcony Bar last night and noticed that there are now video cameras in the PVC piping that supports the outdoor canopy. Hopefully they are there to help the owner figure out why it took the wait staff 45 minutes to deliver my cold chicken fingers.
While the talent as usual was not that great, there was a girl-next-door blond who was absolutely beautiful and a petite brunette with a body and smile to die for. Both will be easy to find because they are so much more attractive than the other girls without even trying.
Frenchieboy
03-15-12, 20:16
Stopped by Balcony Bar last night and noticed that there are now video cameras in the PVC piping that supports the outdoor canopy. Hopefully they are there to help the owner figure out why it took the wait staff 45 minutes to deliver my cold chicken fingers.
While the talent as usual was not that great, there was a girl-next-door blond who was absolutely beautiful and a petite brunette with a body and smile to die for. Both will be easy to find because they are so much more attractive than the other girls without even trying.You are a lucky man because I was in Balcony Tuesday from 8 to 10 pm I hadn t see the girls you mentioned, I wil try to go back tonight.
You are a lucky man because I was in Balcony Tuesday from 8 to 10 pm I hadn t see the girls you mentioned, I wil try to go back tonight.10 PM to 2 AM is probably a better time to hit up Balcony.
Frenchieboy
03-15-12, 23:15
10 PM to 2 AM is probably a better time to hit up Balcony.You are right but I had a rendez vous with my favourite girl at 10pm so wasn t impossible for me to stay more
This post is nothing groundbreaking. More just filling in small gaps and for folk who already have the big picture and like the occasional extra detail.
centro cheapies Firstly: in the spirit suggested, of adding the odd casa to Sperto's list:
RUA GONÇALVES DIAS 82, 2nd floor. Rs40 half hr, Rs70 for 1hr. This is one of the streets near to and parallel with Uruguaiana, and only a few steps, so easy to have a look in if you are trawling. Not really very much to look at when I went in. A bar tab sheet as you walk through the door (a bit like the old Casarao, which it looks a bit like only smaller). Central room, quite dark, with cabins leading off. None of the the women available struck me as particularly appealing.
RUA DO OUVIDOR 130, SALA 911. I think this one is on Sperto's list, this is just to add a detail. After waiting for the lift and finding it, I tried to leave within 15 seconds. Small dark hallway, crowded, tiny cubicles leading off, altogether cramped (as if a floor on Carioca 59 had been crushed into half the space). I could see at once that none of the chicks we're to my taste (I don't go for fat, ugly). As I tried to leave, one very fat cow blocked my way and tried to extort money (the sort of entrance-fee-in-reverse scam). There is only one way to deal with that, which is very quickly, firmly, politely, which I did, before the cow could think of her next move.
CONDOMS Bubba's mentioned Preserv Extra, larger condoms available mostly in Copa pharmacies. If you are in Centro and avoiding Copa, there's Prudence Extra Grande. They're a very comfortable, larger fit, feel quite sensitive, maybe not as thick as Preserv Xtra.
CASA BEHAR CAMBIO This place has been mentioned a couple if times as it gives excellent rates. But the directions given maybe just said, I think, near Rio Branco and Presidente Vargas. While this is true, it can be time-consuming if that's all you have to go on as they are very busy major roads that can take a while to cross at busy times. The address is actually R / Branco & Visconde de Inhauma, so you should cross Vargas going north from Centro (4x4 side) and then the cambio is about 50yds further on on your right. If you sit outside the bookshop opposite you can also use free wi-go once you've got the password.
MORE VM NOTES: I wonder if this place could price itself out of existence if it's not careful, but just now it's still like a rite of initiation to some folk and there are still gems and even tolerable cabins if you're very lucky. Some of the best experiences I've had there, as well as girls I've taken for an all-night, have been new to VM and not had time to develop a hardened attitude. But I've also found a certain consistency on casas over the years, not foolproof, but fwiw. Some of the places with the hottest looking chicks have awful cubicles and awful house policies. Those I've found to be decent and honest include:
The first casa on the right as you enter from the meat factory (Sao Cristovao Metro) end. The casa is at the end of a long passage and has a very laid back feel to it. There are a higher proportion of non-doable chicks, but usually the odd looker too. You can relax, enjoy the jukebox, maybe enjoy the barbecue or tv, all without hassle and get treated with respect. A couple of others I usually check out (as they're honest, laid back and no hassle) are one or two at the end of the narrow cul-de-sac street in the north side (next to the U-bend). Also, some yards east of that, is a wide entrance with a few pool tables that goes back some. The middle two bars of the main section have always been ok for some reason. Of the bad ones, I've mentioned the L-shape next to casa 56 that tried to rip me off. I am also very wary of the second casa to the left at the west entrance to the U-bend as I caught someone trying to steal from me there and it may or may not have been with the casa's connivance. Don't take this as gospel. They're just observations over a few years.
RUA DO OUVIDOR 130, SALA 911.Sala 911 is really bad. Head down two floors to sala 707, and ask for the famous Kelly.
I use them when in town also, they really have great rates. Once you find the building, you will see a travel agency as you enter and a set of spiraling stairs to the cambio.
CASA BEHAR CAMBIO This place has been mentioned a couple if times as it gives excellent rates. But the directions given maybe just said, I think, near Rio Branco and Presidente Vargas. While this is true, it can be time-consuming if that's all you have to go on as they are very busy major roads that can take a while to cross at busy times. The address is actually R / Branco & Visconde de Inhauma, so you should cross Vargas going north from Centro (4x4 side) and then the cambio is about 50yds further on on your right. If you sit outside the bookshop opposite you can also use free wi-go once you've got the password.
Parlour Paul
03-17-12, 17:24
I was in Rio last week and the temptation of the updated Bubba report made me pay up an annual membership fee. Actually I should have done that long time ago, thank you for a great service Jackson, I hope it works as a business and thanks of course also to Bubba for his report on Rio.
So I had some time in the afternoon, did not feel like spending RS400 in the termas, so decided to try a cheapie.
I went to the one in Zona Sul, Rua Tonelero 169.
Take taxi there. No sign on the door, just an entrance. A Brasilian guy just came out, so I walked right in. Up a short flight of stairs, small ante room with nice looking madam (42y, C cup) smiled at me, asked me to sit down. I don't speak Portuguese and nobody there speak anything but Portuguese, but no problem, all sides are willing to communicate with hands and smiles.
She made me sit down and introduced the line up. 6 girls, all in their twenties, looks ranging from 5 to 7, 3 blondes (not my thing) .3 brunettes. I picked Francesca, nice smile, B cup tits, nice behind. 23y old (?). Pricing was 100 RS for an hour. 80 for 40m. 60 for 30m. I choose 40m.
Into the small, windowless, but clean room. She suggested a shower and left the room. Came back after 5 minutes, on to the bed, some nice foreplay, kissing nipples, handplay etc. I brought my own condom, so she then put that on and proceeded with CBJ. I did not ask for BBBJ. I know that many of you are less concerned with STD, but in a cheapie, why take the risk. So after the CBJ, she asked me to take her frombehind. As I said the behind was nice so who I am not to oblige. Very nice, nearly came, but then pulled out, did her a bit from the top in miss and then asked her to finish with HJ no condom and an excellent prostrate massage (I had to explain to her with hand language what I wanted). All in all good experience: Looks:7; Attitude: 7; Professionalism of Service: 8-9; Premises: 6; Value for Money: 9. I tipped her RS 20, she seemed delighted.
Happy days.
... I went to the one in Zona Sul, Rua Tonelero 169...Excellent privê-report! All the facts you can ask for.
I disliked the part with the tipping, but I guess she deserved that after giving you a prostrate massage.
Making Moves
03-19-12, 10:04
I would like to know if some of you had experiences with girls in Copacabana Palace 's bar, (because ugly girls in Balcony BASTA!) possible or not to find beautiful girls and at what prices? Sorry for my englishYes I was at Balcony and to be real, half of the chicks are tired and average, I wouldn't say ugly but they were not all that but I guess since majority of mongers here are senior citizens or knocking on the door of being one maybe the thrill is in getting a young chick to fuck.
Rio Me Ever
03-19-12, 11:24
Gentlemen.
I was wondering if all termas were inforcing the dress code for the ladies like 4X4 was last month?
Thanks for any update.
Ipanema Carioca
03-19-12, 21:44
Does anyone know this Brazilian Goddess From Rio? This Copa photo, I believe, was taken in Balcony on an unknown date.
Mangera. I'm sorry to say the London thread has sufficient bullshit to last a lifetime, even without your kind offer of sending the troll there.
ChrisDrug has already had numerous posts deleted by Jackson. He does say he visited Bel Prazer once and gives a field report of sorts. The rest is just about making more money than the rest of the planet put together (remarkable kkk) and references to scoring hot chicks at amazing prices but no details. Fantasist. Thread filler. Don't let him get your goat.
Now that's one worth commenting. Never seen her at Balcony nut would love to.
Lonzof.
Does anyone know this Brazilian Goddess From Rio? This Copa photo, I believe, was taken in Balcony on an unknown date.
HoleRanger
03-20-12, 01:12
DoofDuff. Thanks for the conversion on Bubba Boy's Report. I'am sure it will help many. I will be there in two weeks to once again.
Lay and play!
Enjoy!
Poucolouco
03-20-12, 01:34
Does anyone know this Brazilian Goddess From Rio? This Copa photo, I believe, was taken in Balcony on an unknown date.Goddess is right. You are a true gentleman for sharing her picture.
Bubba Boy,
I just finished reading your Rio Report. Nicely done, thanks. I was really laughing about the GDP net. We used to call it the BGN, the Brazilian Grota Network, or the LCN, the Latin Chica Network. No matter what name you give it, it is the fastest means of communication known to man, and this happens in any place in South America. Frequent any club or Terma once, and within 30 seconds of your next visit to the same club, all the girls will know what kind of guy you are, how big your dik is, how much you paid, what you wore last time, and who you went out with. It is amazing.
Thanks again for the reports.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2191-Bubba-Boy-s-Rio-Guide
Moondog
Does anyone know this Brazilian Goddess From Rio? This Copa photo, I believe, was taken in Balcony on an unknown date.
It seems that this lady with the impressive butt is called Greyci Lima.
Maybe a model? I wouldn't put too much hope in finding her at Balcony.
http://www.madurando.com/super-mega-vecina-brasilera-diossssssss
http://topshelffent.com/damn-brazilian-model-griecy-killing-the-clubs
http://www.atlnightspots.com/2012/brazilian-model-griecy-killing-the-clubs
P.S BTW, I don't know her. I just made a quick google image search.
Ipanema Carioca
03-20-12, 22:56
P.S BTW, I don't know her. I just made a quick google image search.That's great internet gumshoe work Sperto. You'd make a great internet detective! Obrigado!
Goddess is right.Goddess?
This girl is a monster, a Gorgon. Don't know how she can survive on those mounds of silicon. Her face is pretty ugly too, the eyes too far apart, the forehead too large, the chin too sharp, and there is an obvious disharmony between the lenght of torse and the lenght of legs (too short). Not talking about the monstruous ass and thighs. If she is a model, that says a lot about the taste of brasilians for anything vulgar. Ugh.
Is it just me or is this board like whack a mole? Jackson gets rid of 1 nuisance and another pops up in his place in a matter of days. FRUSTRATING!
Is it just me or is this board like whack a mole? Jackson gets rid of 1 nuisance and another pops up in his place in a matter of days. FRUSTRATING!What a mollah you are. Can't people give their opinion, be it different from yours?
This girl has a siliconed ass and bodybuilding thighs that are totally out of control. And even without the ridiculously siliconed ass and the steroided thighs, she wouldn't be more than a 5. Her chin is too sharp (as her nose), her eyes too far apart and insignificant, her mouth too small and tight, her cheeks too big, ect. Sorry.
Ipanema Carioca
03-21-12, 18:43
Goddess?
This girl is a monster, a Gorgon. Don't know how she can survive on those mounds of silicon. Her face is pretty ugly too, the eyes too far apart, the forehead too large, the chin too sharp, and there is an obvious disharmony between the lenght of torse and the lenght of legs (too short). Not talking about the monstruous ass and thighs. If she is a model, that says a lot about the taste of brasilians for anything vulgar. Ugh.Prosal, after seeing more photos of her I see that her breasts are silicon, and I also see that she's probably using steroids of the muscle. But I wonder if her ass is fake too.
But I wonder if her ass is fake too.Many girls in Brazil inject something in their bundas.
Right now there is a girl, nickname Morena, working at Belprazer (ex Lumo girl). She has a butt just like your girl.
She told me she had something injected in her butt.
She was amazing with her clothes on, but looked a bit strange naked. I prefer natural bodies.
Ipanema Carioca
03-21-12, 21:28
Many girls in Brazil inject something in their bundas.
Right now there is a girl, nickname Morena, working at Belprazer (ex Lumo girl). She has a butt just like your girl.
She told me she had something injected in her butt.
She was amazing with her clothes on, but looked a bit strange naked. I prefer natural bodies.True on the natural. I never come across a silicon ass and I hope I never will. Something else to watch out for while interviewing a garota. I do not like fake tits at all. I met up with a terma Cancun girl when they closed. When she took her bra off I was unhappy that I brought her home. Her tits looked like black bean bags with black cotton balls attached. The stook straight out and didn't move. She had nerve too be proud of them. Yuck!
Bioplastia is the name of the procedure of using injections to enlarge body parts like ass, thighs, biceps etc. They inject, into the muscle, a biocompatible product that is accepted by the body. The product is mixed with the muscle and increase the muscle volume.
It seems like it has become quite popular the last year. It's quite common you see girls on the beach with unreal butts or tiny guys with giant biceps.
Mr Enternational
03-21-12, 21:53
True on the natural. I never come across a silicon ass and I hope I never will. Something else to watch out for while interviewing a garota. I do not like fake tits at all. I met up with a terma Cancun girl when they closed. When she took her bra off I was unhappy that I brought her home. Her tits looked like black bean bags with black cotton balls attached. The stook straight out and didn't move. She had nerve too be proud of them. Yuck!It is really popular among Colombianas. I don't know who told them that shit looks good.
It is really popular among Colombianas. I don't know who told them that shit looks good.I've read somewhere that Brasil was ranked number 1 country for the number of lipoplastry, rhinoplastry and breast augmentation surgeries, with some 1.6 millions procedures last year.
For me, thanks but no thanks. I like my women untouched by a scalpel.
What a mollah you are. Can't people give their opinion, be it different from yours?
This girl has a siliconed ass and bodybuilding thighs that are totally out of control. And even without the ridiculously siliconed ass and the steroided thighs, she wouldn't be more than a 5. Her chin is too sharp (as her nose) , her eyes too far apart and insignificant, her mouth too small and tight, her cheeks too big, ect. Sorry.
I wasn't actually referring to yourself, I said "new nuisance" you have been around for years, didn't even see your post until now. I was referring to another "I am so great, just ask me" guy that appears to post more about how great he is rather than any useful info.
Poucolouco
03-22-12, 03:19
I wasn't actually referring to yourself, I said "new nuisance" you have been around for years, didn't even see your post until now. I was referring to another "I am so great, just ask me" guy that appears to post more about how great he is rather than any useful info.Bubba Boy, Jackson whacked that mole just as you posted your comment.
Bubba Boy, Jackson whacked that mole just as you posted your comment.Haha. Jackson has hit them all for now! My new policy is to report the "moles" to Jackson rather than get involved in the trivial arguments, I guess if a few people do the same thing it warrants his attention and then he decides to take action or not.
Poucolouco
03-22-12, 04:28
Haha. Jackson has hit them all for now! My new policy is to report the "moles" to Jackson rather than get involved in the trivial arguments, I guess if a few people do the same thing it warrants his attention and then he decides to take action or not.Agree. I did the same with his first post because my Maylay Sparks alarm was buzzing.
Goddess?
This girl is a monster, a Gorgon. Don't know how she can survive on those mounds of silicon. Her face is pretty ugly too, the eyes too far apart, the forehead too large, the chin too sharp, and there is an obvious disharmony between the lenght of torse and the lenght of legs (too short). Not talking about the monstruous ass and thighs. If she is a model, that says a lot about the taste of brasilians for anything vulgar. Ugh.To each his own. However, I do appreciate the pic being posted.
Looking forward to my next visit to Rio. I'll make sure to stop by the Star Wars bar scene, and take pics, so others can gauge the talent present.
Maybe it was ever post.
But I have find this : http://www.rioguiaoficial.com.br/themes/blank/pdf/guiadorio.pdf
It's a big PDF of 160 pages with adress of restaurant, bars, cultural things, shopping, sports.
Exec Talent
03-22-12, 21:50
Happened to pass by the New Help which is the former Mermaid which is the former Franks. Can't provide any details other than saw the red sign on the building.
Goddess?
This girl is a monster, a Gorgon. Don't know how she can survive on those mounds of silicon. Her face is pretty ugly too, the eyes too far apart, the forehead too large, the chin too sharp, and there is an obvious disharmony between the lenght of torse and the lenght of legs (too short). Not talking about the monstruous ass and thighs. If she is a model, that says a lot about the taste of brasilians for anything vulgar. Ugh.Let me guess, Prosal, you're probably. Perfect: Perfect face, perfect eyes (not too far apart) , perfect forehead, right shaped chin, and with a perfect harmony between the length of the torse and the length of the legs.
Good for you! That way you don't have to deal with such hideous monsters.
Yeah. These brazilians. Got no taste!
Happened to pass by the New Help which is the former Mermaid which is the former Franks. Can't provide any details other than saw the red sign on the building.And I happened to pass by the new 4x4 which is the former shithole which was also previously a shithole before that, known occasionally to overcharge, next to the first casa on the right as you enter Vila Mimosa. Can't provide any details as they were asking more than Rs30 which I felt was a bit much and so I went next door. No relation to the former (and still existing) 4x4, whose name it's probably stolen, in Centro, which of course charges maybe ten times that all in.
Hehe!
Poucolouco
03-23-12, 03:55
And I happened to pass by the new 4x4 which is the former shithole which was also previously a shithole before that, known occasionally to overcharge, next to the first casa on the right as you enter Vila Mimosa. Can't provide any details as they were asking more than Rs30 which I felt was a bit much and so I went next door. No relation to the former (and still existing) 4x4, whose name it's probably stolen, in Centro, which of course charges maybe ten times that all in.
Hehe!And I happened to pass by the old Help site which will be the new Museum of Image and Sound. Details follow: Construction progress continues slowly. The concrete perimeter foundation has reached street level and interior excavation is ongoing. This week they replaced the old posters on the perimeter fence and they have been installing what appears to be a public relations office with a large glass front in the steel fence.
Happened to pass by the New Help which is the former Mermaid which is the former Franks. Can't provide any details other than saw the red sign on the building.I saw a "New Help" sign on Franks in January. Of course it's bullsh*t, but I was surprised it had not caused any alarm among the Help lovers on the forum.
Maybe it was ever post.
But I have find this :
http://www.rioguiaoficial.com.br/themes/blank/pdf/guiadorio.pdf
It's a big PDF of 160 pages with adress of restaurant, bars, cultural things, shopping, sports.Thanks, a nice find.
It would be a complete guide if they added a list of wh*re-houses.
Poucolouco
03-23-12, 13:36
I saw a "New Help" sign on Franks in January. Of course it's bullsh*t, but I was surprised it had not caused any alarm among the Help lovers on the forum.That sign has been there since September.
I saw a "New Help" sign on Franks in January. Of course it's bullsh*t, but I was surprised it had not caused any alarm among the Help lovers on the forum.Yeah it was mentioned some time last year, it didn't cause any alarm because it's really still a Franks bar type place not Help. Help was very unique, it's size, it's music and it's set up as a regular type disco, no bar fine for taking a girl out or tables to watch a show. Plus the Circus that happened outside at the restaurant, this whole package will never be replaced on the scale that it was unfortunately, I know you don't care but it was a fun place to hang out.
Yeah it was mentioned some time last year, it didn't cause any alarm because it's really still a Franks bar type place not Help. Help was very unique, it's size, it's music and it's set up as a regular type disco, no bar fine for taking a girl out or tables to watch a show. Plus the Circus that happened outside at the restaurant, this whole package will never be replaced on the scale that it was unfortunately, I know you don't care but it was a fun place to hang out.
I don't miss Help at all, but I have to admit that I miss the Zoo on the outside. It was much more fun than Balcony (well even going to a igreja evangélica is more fun than Balcony).
Ipanema Carioca
03-23-12, 15:50
I don't miss Help at all, but I have to admit that I miss the Zoo on the outside. It was much more fun than Balcony (well even going to a igreja evangélica is more fun than Balcony).Sperto, I agree. The restaurante Terico Atlantica was the best part of being in Copa. I would get there and watch the girls who either couldn't afford the entrance fee of Help or didn't like it inside. The crowd on the outside was better than the inside of Help by far!
PatmarBeleza1
03-23-12, 16:39
Have any of you Cariocas on the board recon'ed La Passion lounge.
http://www.lapassionlounge.com.br/#/HOME
Judging by social networking sites. 4x4 girls and top GDPs hang out there a lot on their free time.
I don't miss Help at all, but I have to admit that I miss the Zoo on the outside. It was much more fun than Balcony (well even going to a igreja evangélica is more fun than Balcony).
Frenchieboy
03-23-12, 18:15
I was in Rio last week I have met Sophia Feraz (riosexsite) , very beautiful girl, thin, natural tits, session just ok CBJ cost 300 BRL + 50 taxi for 1 hour that the price for an outcall escort girl, during my trip I was 4 nights in Balcony, cost from 200 to 300 brl for about 1 hour (I have found 4 girls). I think that the best time to be in Balcony is about midnight because you have a lot of Garotas even if most of them are ugly some (about 5 or 6) are nice.
In February I called Kelly from StarCris http://www.starcris.com/novo2011/kelly/index.htm I believe 120 reais plus taxi. She came in sat on my couch started to take her clothes off, nice and thin, nice and Blond nice and friendly. She took off her jeans and I noticed sores and scabs on her knees, I asked her about them and she told me they are from work. She works on her knees. I put her to work on her knees right away, nice BBBJ but then I thought she must be in pain so I moved to the bed and figured she must be a master at this type of service. I let her finish me off BBBJ CIM, well worth the 150 reais in total.
I was in Rio last week I have met Sophia Feraz (riosexsite) , very beautiful girl, thin, natural tits, session just ok CBJ cost 300 BRL + 50 taxi for 1 hour that the price for an outcall escort girl, during my trip I was 4 nights in Balcony, cost from 200 to 300 brl for about 1 hour (I have found 4 girls). I think that the best time to be in Balcony is about midnight because you have a lot of Garotas even if most of them are ugly some (about 5 or 6) are nice.Frenchieboy,
Thanks for the good intel I may just check out Balcony a few nights before I leave town I been busy seeing a few Termas / Facebook girls after they get off work so maybe I will give Balcony a shot. Many Termas girls seem to turn up their noise and make a (nasty face) when I speak or ask about Balcony Bar they seem to act like it is a step down to them to be seen there, BUT I am sure if they are broke or haven't made their rent money for the month they will find their way and show up there asking tricks for 300 reals for a hour like you said LOL.
Kid Cisco
Ipanema Carioca
03-23-12, 21:21
Some of you might no this former terma Monte Carlo and Club Help girl. This is her website. Give me your opinion on her?
http://www.wix.com/candycarioca/jackie_carioca
Ipanema Carioca
03-23-12, 21:29
I was in Rio last week I have met Sophia Feraz (riosexsite) , very beautiful girl, thin, natural tits, session just ok CBJ cost 300 BRL + 50 taxi for 1 hour that the price for an outcall escort girl, during my trip I was 4 nights in Balcony, cost from 200 to 300 brl for about 1 hour (I have found 4 girls). I think that the best time to be in Balcony is about midnight because you have a lot of Garotas even if most of them are ugly some (about 5 or 6) are nice.I can't believe that you were willing to pay these prices? I've been to Rio 15 times in 4 years. I was 3 twice in 2011, and the last time was December 2011. Frenchie, what you paid is not normal prices. You overpaid. First off, do what you want with your money, but never pay a girl for 1 hour service from escort, Balcony, or anywhere and especially for what you paid. I can get a hot girl off the streets of Copa for R150 for 4 hours or all night, young and with low mileage. There are girls who take the ferry from Niteroi to Rio and the bus to Copa to make R100 for 3 hours for as long as they can get the last ferry back to Niteroi at 11:30 pm.
And for good inexpensive pussy, just read Bubba or Sperto's guide. I can afford to pay what you paid, but I refuse to do it on principle!
Azn Safado
03-23-12, 21:57
I took the subway to Saens-Pena today to check out some of the Tijuca casas. I have never been to them before, so curiosity got the best of me.
First stop was Tigresa Tijucanas. This place had been closed for renovation for awhile. In fact, their website.
http://www.tigresastijucanas.com
Is still down. However, I checked gpguia. Net first to make sure there was a recent post, and there was on 12-March-2012, so I knew they were open again. Thanks to Bubba Boy's guide, it was easy to find as I was on the lookout for a white parking garage to have to walk through and then up some stairs. I got there around 3:45 pm. As for the lineup, there were 4 girls to choose from. Two of them were grenades and the other 2 were probably a 6 at best. I asked how many girls did they have there and she said 6. So I told the Mamasan that I would come back another day.
Next stop was Anne Massagem. As you leave Tigresa, just go left and walk down the same street (Rua General Roca) for about 2 blocks and it will be on the other side of the street at Rua General Roca 263. I couldn't figure out how to get into this place though. It was like a small apartment building where you walk up a few steps and there is a black gate with an intercom that you have to ring in. There were 2 brasileiros ahead of me who rang in and some lady answered and said something in Portuguese pretty fast that I didn't catch. Both guys left so I decided to leave.
I decided to walk back up Rua General Roca for a few blocks up to Rua Conde de Bonfim 352 to visit Mix Massagem. I went in and sat on a bed in one of the rooms. I got to meet 5 girls in the lineup. There was 1 grenade and 4 other girls who ranged between 6 and 7. I told the lady I would return another day. As I was leaving to get on the elevator, the same guy that I saw at Anne Massagem was entering to go to Mix Massagem. LOL.
I must say, I was pretty disappointed in the lineup. Out of 9 girls that I met, none of them were even remotely doable in my book. The centro casas like BelPraze and Duda Massagems seem to have a bit of a better lineup to choose from. I don't think I will come back to visit these Tijuca casas. Well, maybe Anne Massagem Since I didn't get a chance to see the lineup. Anyone else have any problems getting into Anne Massagem?
Some of you might no this former terma Monte Carlo and Club Help girl. This is her website. Give me your opinion on her?
http://www.wix.com/candycarioca/jackie_carioca
Nice site.
Seems like an cute average Zona Norte MILF-mulata.
It smells expensive and rip-off with her site in English, no age, no measurements.
Göttin... she has propable lived some time in Germany. Her old german boyfriend propably got tired of her cheating on him and kicked her out after she managed to rob him of 50% of what he owned. Gotten to lazy to have a honest work in a privê (or too old) and wants to try a career with foolish gringos.
http://www.blogger.com/profile/08340693130703740915
Btw, she likes Harry Potter books (no way she ever read Lord of the rings).
Over and out.
I took the subway to Saens-Pena today to check out some of the Tijuca casas.Nice info. Good to get confirmed that Tigresas returned back home.
No doable at Tigresas or Mix? That's bad. Maybe you came in rush-time?
Annes Massagem propably didn't let you in because all the cabins or the girls were busy.
Try again. Good luck!
Ipanema Carioca
03-23-12, 22:45
Nice site.
Seems like an cute average Zona Norte MILF-mulata.
It smells expensive and rip-off with her site in English, no age, no measurements.
Göttin. She has propable lived some time in Germany. Her old german boyfriend propably got tired of her cheating on him and kicked her out after she managed to rob him of 50% of what he owned. Gotten to lazy to have a honest work in a privê (or too old) and wants to try a career with foolish gringos.
http://www.blogger.com/profile/08340693130703740915
BTW, she likes Harry Potter books (no way she ever read Lord of the rings).
Over and out.Sperto, she is actually a Copa girl, I met at terma Monte Carlo and she frequente Club Help. She just broke up with the father of her 2nd child. She has 2 by Italian tourists. She also worked for Hotside. I never did her because I always have something to do in Rio, and she smokes. Also her english communication skills are excellent. She learned english in Copa, and she's never left Brasil. Here's her facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/cariocaquinha
I went about a fortnight ago but there were only four slightly overweight women none of which I fancied. Mid-afternoon.
... Here's her facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/cariocaquinha
Interesting girl with many names.
Jackie Carioca
Jackeline Göttin
Suellen Costa Yildirim
Try her out and give us a report.
I went about a fortnight ago but there were only four slightly overweight women none of which I fancied. Mid-afternoon.
That's very bad news. :(
Some of you might no this former terma Monte Carlo and Club Help girl. This is her website. Give me your opinion on her?
http://www.wix.com/candycarioca/jackie_cariocaAVerage looking at best. No real brasilian ass and it doesn't look like she has much tits either. I wouldn't look twice at her in Help.
Have any of you Cariocas on the board recon'ed La Passion lounge.
http://www.lapassionlounge.com.br/#/HOME
Judging by social networking sites. 4x4 girls and top GDPs hang out there a lot on their free time.You can forget all about Passions, I have been there twice. It packed with Playboys (Guys who look like they just finished their last set on the squat machine, took their roid pills and went out to the club.) The girls are all Patricinhas. If and that is a big "IF" there are any terma girls in the place, they are there to party and have fun, not to work. Very expensive spot and many other clubs where you get more for your money.
Agree with Bravo. I went once for a birthday party. It is run by the guys from 4x4 as I saw the old manager there.
You can forget all about Passions, I have been there twice. It packed with Playboys (Guys who look like they just finished their last set on the squat machine, took their roid pills and went out to the club.) The girls are all Patricinhas. If and that is a big "IF" there are any terma girls in the place, they are there to party and have fun, not to work. Very expensive spot and many other clubs where you get more for your money.
Azn Safado
03-24-12, 01:58
Nice info. Good to get confirmed that Tigresas returned back home.
No doable at Tigresas or Mix? That's bad. Maybe you came in rush-time?
Annes Massagem propably didn't let you in because all the cabins or the girls were busy.
Try again. Good luck!At both places, they just seemed to be all overweight. I am into petite or slender or at least fit girls (if they are big boned LOL) and none of them fit the mode. I came in at 3:45p, so I don't know if that was a good or bad time.
You can forget all about Passions, I have been there twice. It packed with Playboys (Guys who look like they just finished their last set on the squat machine, took their roid pills and went out to the club.) The girls are all Patricinhas. If and that is a big "IF" there are any terma girls in the place, they are there to party and have fun, not to work. Very expensive spot and many other clubs where you get more for your money.I believe the owners of 4x4 either own the building or at least have the lease on it. I am sure some off work Terma girls go there, you spot them all over town, but doubt that they would do work out of the joint.
Frenchieboy
03-24-12, 10:10
I can't believe that you were willing to pay these prices? I've been to Rio 15 times in 4 years. I was 3 twice in 2011, and the last time was December 2011. Frenchie, what you paid is not normal prices. You overpaid. First off, do what you want with your money, but never pay a girl for 1 hour service from escort, Balcony, or anywhere and especially for what you paid. I can get a hot girl off the streets of Copa for R150 for 4 hours or all night, young and with low mileage. There are girls who take the ferry from Niteroi to Rio and the bus to Copa to make R100 for 3 hours for as long as they can get the last ferry back to Niteroi at 11:30 pm.
And for good inexpensive pussy, just read Bubba or Sperto's guide. I can afford to pay what you paid, but I refuse to do it on principle!I think you are right, I was only 4 times in Rio the 2 last years, some girls told me that they were from Barra and came to Balcony by bus (about 10 brl) , I really don't speak good portuguese and I don't like termas so for me 2 solutions Escort girls on Riosexsite or Balcony, I don't want to go in Lapa at night because people told me it is dangerous except the street close to the Rio Scenarium, so If you explain me how to find garotas in Rio's streets for a such price no problem! Thanks a lot. Last thing, prices for a night with a Balcony's girl is about 400 brl, just compare how much you pay for 40 mns with a terma's girl I think about 480 brl (drinks entrance room girl) so.
Ipanema Carioca
03-24-12, 19:12
I think you are right, I was only 4 times in Rio the 2 last years, some girls told me that they were from Barra and came to Balcony by bus (about 10 brl) , I really don't speak good portuguese and I don't like termas so for me 2 solutions Escort girls on Riosexsite or Balcony, I don't want to go in Lapa at night because people told me it is dangerous except the street close to the Rio Scenarium, so If you explain me how to find garotas in Rio's streets for a such price no problem! Thanks a lot. Last thing, prices for a night with a Balcony's girl is about 400 brl, just compare how much you pay for 40 mns with a terma's girl I think about 480 brl (drinks entrance room girl) so.Frenchieboy, no adventure nothing gained. Sperto and Bubba both post guides to different places in centro. Because where centro is it's pretty safe during the work day, Monday thru Friday. As for picky up girls in Rio, maybe you should stick to Copa where it's generally safe. However, that the gringo zone and it can be a challenge to find girls with reasonable prices. But you got to negotiate. R150-R200 BRAZILIAN is normal for the minimum of 4 hours. The Balcony girls will try for an hour because they want to get as many customers, then the heffas will try to charge you R300-R400 for all night so they can have some where to sleep. DON"T DO IT! Just go home alone for that price. But the girls to target are the ones who are pretty and dress humble, because humble clothes is all they own, but they need money for the rent, or other household expenses. The dressed up girls are the sharks.
But all said, you need to find an experienced wingman. Just meeting escort agencies and Balcony is just an injustice to you. And Lapa is not dangerous. I go alone all the time by taxi and I catch the little packed vans back or a taxi. Just do not get drunk in Lapa, for theire are a lot of pick pockets there. But this ISG forum gives all the info you need.
Frenchieboy
03-24-12, 21:01
Frenchieboy, no adventure nothing gained. Sperto and Bubba both post guides to different places in centro. Because where centro is it's pretty safe during the work day, Monday thru Friday. As for picky up girls in Rio, maybe you should stick to Copa where it's generally safe. However, that the gringo zone and it can be a challenge to find girls with reasonable prices. But you got to negotiate. R150-R200 BRAZILIAN is normal for the minimum of 4 hours. The Balcony girls will try for an hour because they want to get as many customers, then the heffas will try to charge you R300-R400 for all night so they can have some where to sleep. DON"T DO IT! Just go home alone for that price. But the girls to target are the ones who are pretty and dress humble, because humble clothes is all they own, but they need money for the rent, or other household expenses. The dressed up girls are the sharks.
But all said, you need to find an experienced wingman. Just meeting escort agencies and Balcony is just an injustice to you. And Lapa is not dangerous. I go alone all the time by taxi and I catch the little packed vans back or a taxi. Just do not get drunk in Lapa, for theire are a lot of pick pockets there. But this ISG forum gives all the info you need.Many thanks for all your advices, everything you said about Balcony girls is true, they ask you 400 R for the night never before midnight. I will go back in Rio but not before about 6 or 7 months
Frenchieboy, no adventure nothing gained. Sperto and Bubba both post guides to different places in centro. Because where centro is it's pretty safe during the work day, Monday thru Friday. As for picky up girls in Rio, maybe you should stick to Copa where it's generally safe. However, that the gringo zone and it can be a challenge to find girls with reasonable prices. But you got to negotiate. R150-R200 BRAZILIAN is normal for the minimum of 4 hours. The Balcony girls will try for an hour because they want to get as many customers, then the heffas will try to charge you R300-R400 for all night so they can have some where to sleep. DON"T DO IT! Just go home alone for that price. But the girls to target are the ones who are pretty and dress humble, because humble clothes is all they own, but they need money for the rent, or other household expenses. The dressed up girls are the sharks.
But all said, you need to find an experienced wingman. Just meeting escort agencies and Balcony is just an injustice to you. And Lapa is not dangerous. I go alone all the time by taxi and I catch the little packed vans back or a taxi. Just do not get drunk in Lapa, for theire are a lot of pick pockets there. But this ISG forum gives all the info you need.Excellent advice. I would like to reinforce one thing, the girls from Balcony Bar will try and ask for R$400 but no one pays that. NO ONE. In fact if you do pay it the girl will think you are a bit foolish and treat you likewise. You will actually get better service and pay less if you learn to bargain. Picking up Balcony girls is really not for the first time traveler to Rio, they are sharks at that place looking to prey on naive travelers.
Ipanema Carioca
03-24-12, 22:10
Excellent advice. I would like to reinforce one thing, the girls from Balcony Bar will try and ask for R$400 but no one pays that. NO ONE. In fact if you do pay it the girl will think you are a bit foolish and treat you likewise. You will actually get better service and pay less if you learn to bargain. Picking up Balcony girls is really not for the first time traveler to Rio, they are sharks at that place looking to prey on naive travelers.I've told the girls that if they want their price then they will have to leave without a shower, for I will charge them to use my towel, soap and water. But if they want to leave fresh and clean then the price is R250 from their high price. It's like when the as for a tip out after a session. Take the fucking tip out of the money I just paid you. A tip was not part of the deal. If a girl has no where to sleep, it's no my problem even if it's raining. If she wants to spent the night because it's late or the weather is bad, then it will cost her. I normally pay them to go home. If she expects to eat breakfast the next morning if I was generous enough to let her infringe on my time, then it will cost her. But if her price is reasonable, she's a 10, a 3 holer, and she loved the dick in her, mouth, pussy and ass with a tinge of GFE, then I will treat her exceptionally. But for those "sharks" they will get my break down on the price, or leave my apartment without a shower. All I care is they shower before I fuck her, but showering after she does her job is her problem. I learned to be a hard ass. I tell them that yes I'm a gringo, but not a stupid gringo. No many of those heffers at Dolci Vita, where I don't frequent, but it's the same mentality girls who are dressed well or frequent hoes or Copa, and those girls look for stupid gringoes meaning, those who don't do their research before jumping in the swamp of Rio.
I would like to reinforce one thing, the girls from Balcony Bar will try and ask for R$400 but no one pays that. NO ONE.
Exactly. What a GP ask for and what she accepts are two very different things.
Negotiation tactics:
Me: Voce cobra quanto?
GP: 300 reais.
(Avoid falling down on the ground laughing, only smile a bit like she said something very amusing.)
Me: Voce faz por quanto?
GP: 150 reais.
Me: Now tell her that she´s very beautiful and that she deserves 400 reais, but that's out of your limit. Ask her if she accepts 80 reais.
If she´s a smart GP she accepts or maybe try asking for 100 reais.
If it's a gold-digger she will continue demanding 150 reais. Then dump her or tell her to try with one of the old and fat gringos.
If she didn't accept 80 reais she might very well come back in a while accepting it.
The fair p*ssy-price in Brazil should be R$50/1-2pop-session. If it's a TLN and the GP is very hot go up to maximum R$100.
If the girl should be exceptionally beautiful, 10 points, and on your must-do-list limit yourself to R$150.
Over R$150? No way. Considering the abundance of GPs in Brazil there is no reason to ever pay more than R$150. Never!
Exactly. What a GP ask for and what she accepts are two very different things.
Negotiation tactics:
Me: Voce cobra quanto?
GP: 300 reais.
(Avoid falling down on the ground laughing, only smile a bit like she said something very amusing.)
Me: Voce faz por quanto?
GP: 150 reais.
Me: Now tell her that she's very beautiful and that she deserves 400 reais, but that's out of your limit. Ask her if she accepts 80 reais.
If she's a smart GP she accepts or maybe try asking for 100 reais.
If it's a gold-digger she will continue demanding 150 reais. Then dump her or tell her to try with one of the old and fat gringos.
If she didn't accept 80 reais she might very well come back in a while accepting it.
The fair p*ssy-price in Brazil should be R$50/1-2pop-session. If it's a TLN and the GP is very hot go up to maximum R$100.
If the girl should be exceptionally beautiful. 10 points, and on your must-do-list limit yourself to R$150.
Over R$150? No way. Considering the abundance of GPs in Brazil there is no reason to ever pay more than R$150. Never!Good lord that's what I'm talking about! And I thought R$250 (200 +50 for cab) was okay all along. Thanks for the advice will exercise restraint in May LOL!
Exactly. What a GP ask for and what she accepts are two very different things.
Negotiation tactics:
Me: Voce cobra quanto?
GP: 300 reais.
(Avoid falling down on the ground laughing, only smile a bit like she said something very amusing.)
Me: Voce faz por quanto?
GP: 150 reais.
Me: Now tell her that she's very beautiful and that she deserves 400 reais, but that's out of your limit. Ask her if she accepts 80 reais.
If she's a smart GP she accepts or maybe try asking for 100 reais.
If it's a gold-digger she will continue demanding 150 reais. Then dump her or tell her to try with one of the old and fat gringos.
If she didn't accept 80 reais she might very well come back in a while accepting it.
The fair p*ssy-price in Brazil should be R$50/1-2pop-session. If it's a TLN and the GP is very hot go up to maximum R$100.
If the girl should be exceptionally beautiful. 10 points, and on your must-do-list limit yourself to R$150.
Over R$150? No way. Considering the abundance of GPs in Brazil there is no reason to ever pay more than R$150. Never!I have to say that is too low for Rio de Janeiro prices, sure in other states the silver tonged Sperto could work his magic and get everything you want for this but in Rio de Janeiro it would be hard work. Unless of course it is a girl you know well and she likes you etc, but that is different, an entirely different thing. I am thinking for an average looking Balcony girl that you have just met, somewhere around R$100 to R$150 would be a fair price. A super hotty maybe R$200. Anymore and it just would not be worth it, I mean you can get virtually any Terma girl over for R$200 after work.
Ipanema Carioca
03-25-12, 01:16
Good lord that's what I'm talking about! And I thought R$250 (200 +50 for cab) was okay all along. Thanks for the advice will exercise restraint in May LOL!Why give then R50 for taxi. If you fucking in Copa, the gdp will catch a R2. 50 van back to Balcony or home. But I don't give a tip or taxi. That's just me. I know of a girl who live in walking distance from my apt and she asked for taxi. But you can avoid all of that if you hit the centro casas or those in Niteroi. Most of the Balcony females don't fuck well without trying to take control of the session.
Further, there have been incidents where girls have been asking for money up front. Never pay up front.
Why give then R50 for taxi. If you fucking in Copa, the gdp will catch a R2. 50 van back to Balcony or home. But I don't give a tip or taxi. That's just me. I know of a girl who live in walking distance from my apt and she asked for taxi. But you can avoid all of that if you hit the centro casas or those in Niteroi. Most of the Balcony females don't fuck well without trying to take control of the session.
Further, there have been incidents where girls have been asking for money up front. Never pay up front.Being polite, I usually ask early on where she lives. Later, if she lives on the outskirts, I point out no-one gets a taxi that far. If she lives closer, I probably would get a bus there myself and have kindly explained on occasion which bus to get, from where, and even given one or two girls the right change.
Exactly. What a GP ask for and what she accepts are two very different things.
Negotiation tactics:
Me: Voce cobra quanto?
GP: 300 reais.
(Avoid falling down on the ground laughing, only smile a bit like she said something very amusing.)
Me: Voce faz por quanto?
GP: 150 reais.
Me: Now tell her that she's very beautiful and that she deserves 400 reais, but that's out of your limit. Ask her if she accepts 80 reais.
If she's a smart GP she accepts or maybe try asking for 100 reais.
If it's a gold-digger she will continue demanding 150 reais. Then dump her or tell her to try with one of the old and fat gringos.
If she didn't accept 80 reais she might very well come back in a while accepting it.
The fair p*ssy-price in Brazil should be R$50/1-2pop-session. If it's a TLN and the GP is very hot go up to maximum R$100.
If the girl should be exceptionally beautiful. 10 points, and on your must-do-list limit yourself to R$150.
Over R$150? No way. Considering the abundance of GPs in Brazil there is no reason to ever pay more than R$150. Never! This is all I pay simply because I'd rather spend the money on other things if it went over these figures. The only time I've gone home without is if there was no-one I fancied. You really don't need exceptional looks or game, just act cool and not as if you've just come off the cruise ship. I've quoted the above in full as it should really IMO be in any manual. Possibly it could be added to Bubba's next update?
Further, there have been incidents where girls have been asking for money up front. Never pay up front.I go further. Any girl that asks for money upfront on entering the apartment, I ask her to leave. I don't want to ruin the atmosphere by negotiating on this point. If she looks very new, as if someone has told her she should do this, I maybe make a joke of it, saying kindly, 'you never ask for money upfront' and pretend she never said it. If she doesn't take the hint, she's out. Because otherwise she'll be trouble or give bad service.
Ipanema Carioca
03-25-12, 02:14
Being polite, I usually ask early on where she lives. Later, if she lives on the outskirts, I point out no-one gets a taxi that far. If she lives closer, I probably would get a bus there myself and have kindly explained on occasion which bus to get, from where, and even given one or two girls the right change.Christopherd,
I can be polite, courteous and kind. I met a nonpro in centro when I was green. She came 2 hours to Copa and gave me a great fuck for 8 hours. When I offered her money she said "voce nao programma." I walked her to the bus stop on NS Copa and gave her a little money, tip and bus fare. Another girl I met at Miguel Lemos and Atlantica for R150 for 6 hours. When I came out the shower she had changed the sheets and pillow cases. I gave her R150, a tip and taxi to the bus change depot in centro.
Lesson is to not treat all girls the same, and have some rules and stick to them. I say no on principle, because I do not want to contribute to inappropriate of the Copa gdp. It's business!
Frenchieboy
03-25-12, 12:23
Why give then R50 for taxi. If you fucking in Copa, the gdp will catch a R2. 50 van back to Balcony or home. But I don't give a tip or taxi. That's just me. I know of a girl who live in walking distance from my apt and she asked for taxi. But you can avoid all of that if you hit the centro casas or those in Niteroi. Most of the Balcony females don't fuck well without trying to take control of the session.
Further, there have been incidents where girls have been asking for money up front. Never pay up front.You are right for the taxi last week I paid 50 R more for the taxi and the doorman (I was in an apartment)
told me after that the girl arrived in my apartment with a motocycle! With all you advices I understand that you must always bargain and never paid more than 200 R!
PatmarBeleza1
03-25-12, 13:54
I see several fotos of pornstar Susana Rios at Sinonimo Lapa on a social network site. I'd post the pix, but I wouldn't want to put the faces of the other people.
http://www.sinonimolapa.com.br/mapa
Looking around the 'net, I see the above link for the bar. It is one I think I passed on the way out of the apartment of one of my faves in Lapa last trip I took. So, I have two points for the board:
1. Does anyone have contact info for Susana Rios? I'd like to hit that bunda next time I am in Rio. She must be in Mayara Rodriguez territory.
2. For all you Cariocas, instead of hanging out in Copa trying to find "the next help" why not head over to Lapa and get some porn stars or termas girls where they actually hang out, in Lapa? Just saying? I am putting Hotel Flumenense on my overnight love motel list on next trip.
You are right for the taxi last week I paid 50 R more for the taxi and the doorman (I was in an apartment)
Told me after that the girl arrived in my apartment with a motocycle! With all you advices I understand that you must always bargain and never paid more than 200 R!
PatmarBeleza1
03-25-12, 14:10
Thanks for the intel.
I see much chatted about Fany of 4x4 at La Passion Lounge in some social network pix.
From the pix, I am sure you are right. Some gringo in REI travel shorts is not going to do well trying to hook up with Brasileiras on their home turf.
You can forget all about Passions, I have been there twice. It packed with Playboys (Guys who look like they just finished their last set on the squat machine, took their roid pills and went out to the club.) The girls are all Patricinhas. If and that is a big "IF" there are any terma girls in the place, they are there to party and have fun, not to work. Very expensive spot and many other clubs where you get more for your money.
PatmarBeleza1
03-25-12, 14:29
On the social network sites, the announcer / DJ at 4x4 is linked to the one of the social bubbas (socio. Actually make that "President") at Passion Lounge.
Let's see by my count, also linked to that guy are:
1. A former Hotside girl, from 2009. One of my faves, now a Fotografa.
2. A former Hotside girl from 2009 to 2011.
Has this happened to anyone? You start clicking through pix or friends of some garota on a social networking site, and you stop and say, hey, I banged her. And there are like 3 Hotside GDPs. Or 3 4x4 garotas.
I believe the owners of 4x4 either own the building or at least have the lease on it. I am sure some off work Terma girls go there, you spot them all over town, but doubt that they would do work out of the joint.
Exactly. What a GP ask for and what she accepts are two very different things.
Negotiation tactics:
Me: Voce cobra quanto?
GP: 300 reais.
(Avoid falling down on the ground laughing, only smile a bit like she said something very amusing.)
Me: Voce faz por quanto?
GP: 150 reais.
Me: Now tell her that she's very beautiful and that she deserves 400 reais, but that's out of your limit. Ask her if she accepts 80 reais.
If she's a smart GP she accepts or maybe try asking for 100 reais.
If it's a gold-digger she will continue demanding 150 reais. Then dump her or tell her to try with one of the old and fat gringos.
If she didn't accept 80 reais she might very well come back in a while accepting it.
The fair p*ssy-price in Brazil should be R$50/1-2pop-session. If it's a TLN and the GP is very hot go up to maximum R$100.
If the girl should be exceptionally beautiful. 10 points, and on your must-do-list limit yourself to R$150.
Over R$150? No way. Considering the abundance of GPs in Brazil there is no reason to ever pay more than R$150. Never!I paid a visit to Balcony each night for the first 10 days on my last trip few months ago. Every night I witnessed roughly 5 uppermost fine-looking sharks, and 5 doables every night among the 100+- garotas. To me it seemed like they are skilled at reevaluating their strategy every night based on the day of week, time of the year, and weather. They are knowledgeable in opting for a naïve, newbie, or someone who's on a trip for a short trip, who will willingly waste R$400 for a quicky or TLN. Believe me when I say this, those top 5 hot Ms. # 8 or 9 KNOWS their worth, as well as those 5 doable Ms. # 5. 7. Thinking that you will be able to sway one of the top 5 hot garotas to spend a TLN for R$150 is a PURE fantasy. Most of them got links to GDPz at Centaurus who are enlighting them with such info over a jerk who just spent R$500 or US$300 for a 20 mins quicky less than a mile away. I cancelled my 3rd trip to Brasil due to insane price hike. In London, I'm banging chicks and making money at the same time in GBP currency. My Corp is sending me London for the second time next week. I got 5-7 hot nice, tall model type Hungarian, Spanish, Russian etc chicks scheduled for every night after work meetings for a complete A level, CIM programma. To hell with Balcony.
I've told the girls that if they want their price then they will have to leave without a shower, for I will charge them to use my towel, soap and water. But if they want to leave fresh and clean then the price is R250 from their high price. It's like when the as for a tip out after a session. Take the fucking tip out of the money I just paid you. A tip was not part of the deal. If a girl has no where to sleep, it's no my problem even if it's raining. If she wants to spent the night because it's late or the weather is bad, then it will cost her. I normally pay them to go home. If she expects to eat breakfast the next morning if I was generous enough to let her infringe on my time, then it will cost her. But if her price is reasonable, she's a 10, a 3 holer, and she loved the dick in her, mouth, pussy and ass with a tinge of GFE, then I will treat her exceptionally. But for those "sharks" they will get my break down on the price, or leave my apartment without a shower. All I care is they shower before I fuck her, but showering after she does her job is her problem. I learned to be a hard ass. I tell them that yes I'm a gringo, but not a stupid gringo. No many of those heffers at Dolci Vita, where I don't frequent, but it's the same mentality girls who are dressed well or frequent hoes or Copa, and those girls look for stupid gringoes meaning, those who don't do their research before jumping in the swamp of Rio.You are absolutely coorect that at certain times you have to be a hard ass. Being a hard ass is not a harsh thing if you know which apporach to take and how to word things. You are also correct in telling them that you are a gringo, but not a stupid gringo. They will actually respect you more, becuase they know you will not take their crap, just like brazilian men to do not take that crap from them. You make some Great points Sir!
Exactly. What a GP ask for and what she accepts are two very different things.
Negotiation tactics:
Me: Voce cobra quanto?
GP: 300 reais.
(Avoid falling down on the ground laughing, only smile a bit like she said something very amusing.)
Me: Voce faz por quanto?
GP: 150 reais.
Me: Now tell her that she's very beautiful and that she deserves 400 reais, but that's out of your limit. Ask her if she accepts 80 reais.
If she's a smart GP she accepts or maybe try asking for 100 reais.
If it's a gold-digger she will continue demanding 150 reais. Then dump her or tell her to try with one of the old and fat gringos.
If she didn't accept 80 reais she might very well come back in a while accepting it.
The fair p*ssy-price in Brazil should be R$50/1-2pop-session. If it's a TLN and the GP is very hot go up to maximum R$100.
If the girl should be exceptionally beautiful. 10 points, and on your must-do-list limit yourself to R$150.
Over R$150? No way. Considering the abundance of GPs in Brazil there is no reason to ever pay more than R$150. Never!Sperto, I think you underestimate how much your expereince, knowledge, and ability (fluent) to communicatehelp you hold the line on those rates you mentioned. I agree with them for the most part if you are a brasilero or an experienced hobbyist such as yourself a few others in this forum. However, the majority of gringo's find it extremely difficult to get those rates cause they do not speak fluently, are inexperienced in negotiating with gdp, are hrony bastards that have no selfcontrol, np patience, etc. Again, I will try to come as close as possible to those rates, but for rookies or tourists in general, thats a hard line to hold. But then again, your post is making them aware (or hopefully will make them aware) of just how much of a sucker they are being, and most importantly that they are driving up the rates, and furthermore, driving up rates with less quality service.
Why give then R50 for taxi. If you fucking in Copa, the gdp will catch a R2. 50 van back to Balcony or home. But I don't give a tip or taxi. That's just me. I know of a girl who live in walking distance from my apt and she asked for taxi. But you can avoid all of that if you hit the centro casas or those in Niteroi. Most of the Balcony females don't fuck well without trying to take control of the session.
Further, there have been incidents where girls have been asking for money up front. Never pay up front.This business of paying upfront is a freaken thorn on myside. Not many things irritate me when negotiating or dealing with the ladies because I have been around the block to many times already. However, for whatever reason, it ticks me off. NEVER PAY UPFRONT! If you do. 9 out of 10 times you are going to get crappy service. But some guys are just happy to stick there wiener is any hole, and shoot their load.
Gentlemen, Please don't help start a new trend of paying upfront, this is suicide. I always say no, and if they persist, I show them the money in full and then tell them not to worry because I have it in full, and it will be waiting for them when session is over. This usually works all of the time for me. There has been a couple of exceptions in all of these past years. And YEEEEEESSSSS< I HELD THE LINE, and told them no deal and to leave. And they did. You win some and you lose some, thats life!
Thinking that you will be able to sway one of the top 5 hot garotas to spend a TLN for R$150 is a PURE fantasy.That's very true, in your case.
You impressed me by writing a post without mentioning your MBA, apartments or your income.
Ipanema Carioca
03-25-12, 20:17
Actually, I'm thinking that newbies should not do a todo a noche (all night) in Rio their first trip. It would be best to visit the termas and casas to learn the gdp culture, rather than jumping into negotiations.
ChrisDrug, What is and who is a top 5 hot garota, and why she won't do R$150 rather than go home broke?
PatmarBeleza1
03-25-12, 22:58
FWIW, I had my first TLN with a GDP on trip #7. It was in her prive in copa. I basically used gpguia. Net reviews as a guide. She was doing TLNs. I paid $800R.
I had TLN 2 and 3 with the same girl a year later, that was trip #9. I paid zero. She was trying to get out of the biz, and I was having a mini-relationship with her. That was "good sex" as one poster to this board has put it (easy to get sex, hard to get good sex).12 or 14 hours, sex 6 or 7 times. 1+ hour at a time.
I had TLN 4 and 5 with the same girl in December of that year. Trip #11. I guess I paid zero, but I was trying to give her some legit work, so I paid her at least $500R.
Anyway, she was a former 4x4 girl, and then a freelancer for 2+ years. I would agree, best to avoid TLN on first trip. TLN takes some trust, on both sides.
Actually, I'm thinking that newbies should not do a todo a noche (all night) in Rio their first trip. It would be best to visit the termas and casas to learn the gdp culture, rather than jumping into negotiations.
ChrisDrug, What is and who is a top 5 hot garota, and why she won't do R$150 rather than go home broke?
Seems to be an alarming trend. I found a smoking hot garota at balcony in February. She gave all the right responses was very sweet. Did not accept a drink offer. We agreed on price and took a cab to my appt. We decided then to walk to supermarket to buy some Stellas. Back at the apartment after a drink, kissing, and groping she asked for up front payment. Took me by surprise. Told I never pay before and he had a sad story about guys not paying. I offerred to pay half first and the balance after completion. She refused an the tried to convince me. I asked her to leave. She wanted cab fare back to balcony so I gave her 13 reais. She complained to the doorman who later gave me a gdp lecture. Moral of story. NEVER PAY UP FRONT. Although she was hottt I did not want to get burned. I went to bed horny as hell but did 3 centro casa garotas the next day. When I get a free moment I will post a clothed photo with facial.
Lonzof.
This business of paying upfront is a freaken thorn on myside. Not many things irritate me when negotiating or dealing with the ladies because I have been around the block to many times already. However, for whatever reason, it ticks me off. NEVER PAY UPFRONT! If you do. 9 out of 10 times you are going to get crappy service. But some guys are just happy to stick there wiener is any hole, and shoot their load.
Gentlemen, Please don't help start a new trend of paying upfront, this is suicide. I always say no, and if they persist, I show them the money in full and then tell them not to worry because I have it in full, and it will be waiting for them when session is over. This usually works all of the time for me. There has been a couple of exceptions in all of these past years. And YEEEEEESSSSS< I HELD THE LINE, and told them no deal and to leave. And they did. You win some and you lose some, thats life!
Seems to be an alarming trend. I found a smoking hot garota at balcony in February. She gave all the right responses was very sweet. Did not accept a drink offer. We agreed on price and took a cab to my appt. We decided then to walk to supermarket to buy some Stellas. Back at the apartment after a drink, kissing, and groping she asked for up front payment. Took me by surprise. Told I never pay before and he had a sad story about guys not paying. I offerred to pay half first and the balance after completion. She refused an the tried to convince me. I asked her to leave. She wanted cab fare back to balcony so I gave her 13 reais. She complained to the doorman who later gave me a gdp lecture. Moral of story. NEVER PAY UP FRONT. Although she was hottt I did not want to get burned. I went to bed horny as hell but did 3 centro casa garotas the next day. When I get a free moment I will post a clothed photo with facial.
Lonzof.Okay since we are on this topic I'll be the first to admit I have overpaid for a Balcony GDP or 2, and not bc of impatience or lack of self control (rest assured R150 is now my limit). As far as guilty of upfront payment NEVER-happened exactly as you described Lonzof and killed the vibe / mood instantly! The reason I go to the land of bunda is for near GFE duh. Gladly paid taxi so she could leave my apartment without any scene. Saw her later that evening and made sure she knew someone else was getting her dough that night and I wasn't the mark. I can't imagine anyone falling prey to this scam but something has definitely emboldened these greedy Balcony piranhas. Or are there really foreigners playing dumb and not paying and messing it up for everyone? Sounds pretty funny but I would never have the balls to pull that off. I would ask my regular Terma "friends" their perspective and experience but don't want to give them ideas.
Here is the mug shot of my debacle so glad I skipped this program, had too much to drink, the lighting was pretty bad and didn't notice the muffin top at the bar LOL.
I was at Balcony Bar last night and it looked like a FREAK show a bunch of ugly looking monsters. Out of about 60-70 girls I saw maybe 2 that I felt was ok looking BUT if they were working in a Tier 1 Terma I wouldn't do them because they were much older then the ones I like to do. Also there are a lot of he-she's mixed in walking around with normal looking females at the Balcony Bar so beware!!!!
It got so bad (from the freaks walking around with beer belly's and I can't stand a girl with a belly on them) it turns me off that I had to order my food and I took it back to my hotel and ate it. There are very few options at night now. Unless you have a hook up with a Terma chick or a chick you met on-line like (facebook) to me going to Balcony Bar is a waste of time...BUT I had to go and see what the fuss was all about and after going there after 12:00 midnight and after a few hours of waiting around for something to catch my eye I was ready to move on..
Speaking of paying up front I have had many Termas girls coming over my place for the last few weeks and NOT a single one of them asked for money up front or even asked for taxi fare when they left...maybe asking for money up front is a Balcony Bar thing..
Kid Cisco
Eric Cartman
03-27-12, 03:10
Speaking of paying up front I have had many Termas girls coming over my place for the last few weeks and NOT a single one of them asked for money up front or even asked for taxi fare when they left. Maybe asking for money up front is a Balcony Bar thing.
Kid CiscoHey, please describe more about how you are getting the Termas girls to come back to your place. I've been living here for 1. 5 years now and I've only had a handful of Termas girls come back. Some have wanted sums on the high side (R$300+) and I have declined. Others I've managed to build a semi-vibe with a they come for nothing or R$200 per visit. But I'd really like to hear more about what Termas you are having success in, and how you are lining it up.
Thanks!
-Cartman
Eric Cartman
03-27-12, 03:15
Sperto, I think you underestimate how much your expereince, knowledge, and ability (fluent) to communicatehelp you hold the line on those rates you mentioned. I agree with them for the most part if you are a brasilero or an experienced hobbyist such as yourself a few others in this forum. However, the majority of gringo's find it extremely difficult to get those rates cause they do not speak fluently, are inexperienced in negotiating with gdp, are hrony bastards that have no selfcontrol, np patience, etc. Again, I will try to come as close as possible to those rates, but for rookies or tourists in general, thats a hard line to hold. But then again, your post is making them aware (or hopefully will make them aware) of just how much of a sucker they are being, and most importantly that they are driving up the rates, and furthermore, driving up rates with less quality service.An ex-high-end Termas girl, who lives about 2 hours away near Bangu, has been coming to visit me every other weekend. She spends 1. 5-2hours in public transit each way, frolics with me for a while, seems to cum (for reals!). I give her R$200 and sometimes we grab something to eat. But it will be rare to find a Zona Sul Termas chick who will go through this. I know some guys here who have smoking hot girls coming over for free, but they are the exception.
The best place to fish is the privates, but you need time to go and to find the right girls and build a relationship.
Eric Cartman
03-27-12, 03:20
A super hotty maybe R$200. Anymore and it just would not be worth it, I mean you can get virtually any Terma girl over for R$200 after work.The high-end Termas (Zona Sul) girls I know are not coming over for R$200 unless they really like you. R$300+ is the quote I've seen out of MC and other shops (I can't imagine Centaurus). I know people will have stories of R$200 but in my experience, they are the exception rather than the rule.
Ipanema Carioca
03-27-12, 04:46
The high-end Termas (Zona Sul) girls I know are not coming over for R$200 unless they really like you. R$300+ is the quote I've seen out of MC and other shops (I can't imagine Centaurus). I know people will have stories of R$200 but in my experience, they are the exception rather than the rule.I learned from the monger who first invited me to Rio. YOu go to the termas, give a girl your number and she'll come to your apt / hotel for any price lower than R$200. It's not worth paying more to you. For what, sex! She gets more many than the terma, and a chance or spend the night or day in a nice apartment with a full refriderator; or a nice hotel that no one in her circle can afford. That's is better than most Brasileiros can do, especially a young boyfriend or baby's daddy. I even got a terma girl to meet me after work. We got a bite to eat, fucked, and I only paid her cab fare. I've never paid a terma girl more than R$200 for many hours of fucking. I rarely to toda a noite, and I make that point up front. But sometimes the beg to stay because of the time or rain. I like Rio winters for the rainy nights, most woman it's their nature to want to stay in bed to cuddle, then fucking.
Ipanema Carioca
03-27-12, 04:52
An ex-high-end Termas girl, who lives about 2 hours away near Bangu, has been coming to visit me every other weekend. She spends 1. 5-2hours in public transit each way, frolics with me for a while, seems to cum (for reals!). I give her R$200 and sometimes we grab something to eat. But it will be rare to find a Zona Sul Termas chick who will go through this. I know some guys here who have smoking hot girls coming over for free, but they are the exception.
The best place to fish is the privates, but you need time to go and to find the right girls and build a relationship.Eric, I had a former Luomo girl who lives in Bangu. She had to walk to a van, to the bus then metro to Luomo. She wants stayed 3 nights and all I did was feed her. One day I went with her to Western Union office near the Copacabana Palace on NS Copa, where she picked up $US500. 00 that a fella in Panama wired her and she took me to lunch right after getting the money. She took me to Barra Shopping to get me a phone in her name, because I did not have a CPF at the time.
I was 51 and she 23 qnd no kids when I met her in Luomo. We are still friends and she has a Brasileiro boyfriend, who works in Angola most of the time. Now, because of her education and great english, she works for a major Brasilian utility company.
Eric, I had a former Luomo girl who lives in Bangu. She had to walk to a van, to the bus then metro to Luomo. She wants stayed 3 nights and all I did was feed her. One day I went with her to Western Union office near the Copacabana Palace on NS Copa, where she picked up $US500. 00 that a fella in Panama wired her and she took me to lunch right after getting the money. She took me to Barra Shopping to get me a phone in her name, because I did not have a CPF at the time.
I was 51 and she 23 qnd no kids when I met her in Luomo. We are still friends and she has a Brasileiro boyfriend, who works in Angola most of the time. Now, because of her education and great english, she works for a major Brasilian utility company.Speaking of Bangu, has anyone been out there? Holly shit batman that place is a shit hole! Possibly the worst place I have visited in Rio de Janeiro.
Speaking of Bangu, has anyone been out there? Holly shit batman that place is a shit hole! Possibly the worst place I have visited in Rio de Janeiro.I spoke with a gringo that got free lodging in Bangu prison for a couple of years. He also thought Bangu was a shithole.
I spoke with a gringo that got free lodging in Bangu prison for a couple of years. He also thought Bangu was a shithole.Damn. 2 years in any Brazilian prison would be bad, but the Bangu Prison complexes are meant to be the worst!
What did he do?
Damn. 2 years in any Brazilian prison would be bad, but the Bangu Prison complexes are meant to be the worst!
What did he do?"Mula", he thought he was going to make easy money transporting drugs. Instead he ended up in Bangu. He told me there were a whole bunch of gringos in Bangu.
Ipanema Carioca
03-27-12, 17:41
Speaking of Bangu, has anyone been out there? Holly shit batman that place is a shit hole! Possibly the worst place I have visited in Rio de Janeiro.Really! I never been but I've heard how bad it is, so I declined offers by my friend to go. The most extreme place I've been was the last metro stop in Zona Norte called Pavuna. I was in utter shock at the contrast between it and the tourist area. I went as far north as the metro went out of curiosity alone. I've been to other cities, and I discovered why the uneducated and unskilled pretty girls hoe. It's like why most of the same girls in America become strippers or survive off sugar daddies!
PatmarBeleza1
03-27-12, 18:03
I went out to bangu to visit a gdp trying to get out of biz. She was staying with alcoholic violent mother who would scream in the background on video calls. I got off supervia train and turned around within 100 meters. Very sketchy.
Flocks of 12 year old negra kids flying kites. Peaceful enough, but a gringo would be asking to be robbed.
I spoke with a gringo that got free lodging in Bangu prison for a couple of years. He also thought Bangu was a shithole.
Ipanema Carioca
03-27-12, 20:14
I went out to bangu to visit a gdp trying to get out of biz. She was staying with alcoholic violent mother who would scream in the background on video calls. I got off supervia train and turned around within 100 meters. Very sketchy.
Flocks of 12 year old negra kids flying kites. Peaceful enough, but a gringo would be asking to be robbed.Talking about raggedy old trains. Know I know what happened to the old eastcoast US Amtrak trains. The all got sent to Rio. I took a 45 minute train ride from centro Rio to the neighborhood of Madureira. Talking a primitive ride. The train seemed unsafe and people sell stuff like thet do on the highway when you enter centro from the airport. I know cariocas living in the states who can't believe I did it and they never.
Speaking of Bangu, has anyone been out there? Holly shit batman that place is a shit hole! Possibly the worst place I have visited in Rio de Janeiro.Many years ago, I visited Fiscal at Polinter. The living conditions were horrible. I can only imagine what Bangu is like.
I spoke with a gringo that got free lodging in Bangu prison for a couple of years. He also thought Bangu was a shithole.Does not look like fun, be safe, be smart, stay out of Bangu.
Dude I own 9 apts and about to leverage my 10th with the help of a new broker in enfield area.
http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=1509159Take your meds, life will be better.
The high-end Termas (Zona Sul) girls I know are not coming over for R$200 unless they really like you. R$300+ is the quote I've seen out of MC and other shops (I can't imagine Centaurus). I know people will have stories of R$200 but in my experience, they are the exception rather than the rule.I've pulled putas from so called "Tier 1" Ts (including Centaurus) without fee. Costs are subjective, and vary, as it is dependent on their attraction for you. Please note that nothing is really free if you consider drinks, foods, etc. As costs incurred during your date.
In the Rio archives, going back to W.S.G. days, you will find many members that have had success with limited costs incurred (if any). As you progress through the timeline, it will become noticeable that such relationships start to diminish.
As an old timer once advised,"Keep it simple." When the gals start asking for a lapitope or monies, one must become aware of their true intentions.
Take your meds, life will be better.I wish he would. We're no doubt going to have to hear his 'fabulous wealth monologue' on the London forum as well, where he's discovered he can pay about twice the prive rate that he'd pay in Rio. I'm surprised they don't charge him just to listen to him.
Ipanema Carioca
03-28-12, 02:53
I wish he would. We're no doubt going to have to hear his 'fabulous wealth monologue' on the London forum as well, where he's discovered he can pay about twice the prive rate that he'd pay in Rio. I'm surprised they don't charge him just to listen to him.Didn't someone mentioned to ignore him?
Hey, please describe more about how you are getting the Termas girls to come back to your place. I've been living here for 1. 5 years now and I've only had a handful of Termas girls come back. Some have wanted sums on the high side (R$300+) and I have declined. Others I've managed to build a semi-vibe with a they come for nothing or R$200 per visit. But I'd really like to hear more about what Termas you are having success in, and how you are lining it up.
Thanks!
-CartmanEric,
I remember you asking me this question before about the " Facebook" girls I have met and I don't think I answer it at that time as you can see from reading some of the posts here many guys have their own methods that seem to work for them. One guy method may not work well for another guy you need to find your style and what works for you.
BUT, I will tell you one of my method is to treat a Terma girl the same way I would treat a Rio Sul Mall girl I met at the Food court or a girl I met in line at Bob's what I have notice in my life when I am at any of the top South Beach at nightclubs like Mansion or Liv or at a high end night club in Vegas like Pure, Tao, Haze, Hyde, etc. Many Vegas escorts, showgirls, cocktail waitress etc. Go to these clubs on their days off and ALL they want to do is hang out and party and if a guy step to them the right way (and not as a Trick) they will fuck the shit out of him that night. NOT all girls that sell ass for a living want to be on duty selling ass 24/7...they are still females and want and need attention to still let them know they are still a woman and not just another hooker..
Besides when most of these girls take off their make-up and put on their jeans and t-shirts and the come to the front desk at my hotel asking for me they don't even look like the same girl from the Terma they look so avg. so it's easy for me to treat them as such..
The same hold true with these Termas girls they have normal lives they shop for milk and bread and many work out at local gyms and love to listen to music and as you can see from inside the Termas they love to dance. I love to dance as well and I don't have a problem showing or asking girls out to their favorite spot to hang out and dance or listen to some music. Or grab something to eat.
What I said a few months ago still hold true now. I been here in Rio for over 2 weeks and my 1st week or so I was a madman or a monster fucking girls left and right at the top Termas and after that I built up points at some of the Termas were my entrance was free and I could just go in there and hang out I had girls telling me oh you know my friend so and so don't you? She works at Termas X Y Z you took her out didn't you? Why you didn't ask me out? Etc.
BUT! Eric don't come off as a TRICK if I ran up to chicks in Vegas or South Beach or LA asking them to come by my place and HOW MUCH would they charge me? Of course if she don't really want to be with me or if she ONLY look at me as a trick she will say hell if this guy is willing to pay me hell I will charge him the sky be it 300 reals or 500 reals! You want her to WANT to be with you. Most of these girls have babies and do you think? They charged their baby Father by the hour? Or their current local boyfriend the hour? Hell no. They mostly ONLY charge gringos because many of us are so fast to reach in our pockets and pay them. Or say or ask HOW MUCH?
I know I know before anyone say it I know this is a site for paying for sex and there isn't anything wrong with that and this is what we are here for and this is what I do as well pay for sex BUT Eric asked me for my advice and maybe he and others are looking for other options for this reason I post my answer to his question here on the forum and not just PM with my answer him. And most of all he asked me in a respectful manner.
So the answer Eric isn't cut and dry after living here in Rio for 1. 5 years you shouldn't even have time to step inside a Termas from girls knocking down your front door. LOL I only been here for 2 weeks and I have to take the phone off the hook in my hotel room when I have a girls over so I won't have any problems or issues. Rio is a gold mine at just picking up single girls even on the Metro Train at around 4-5 pm downtown you have working business ladies working around in their heels and dresses just offer them to have some coffee or drink with you before they go home and IF they don't have time for it pass them your hotel or apt or cell phone number and say when you have time give me a call. It's so damn easy here.
Most of these Termas girls mostly have a bad view or outlook on most guys ALL they see mostly are 90% of guys that are married or single local guys that are cheating on their wives or girlfriend with them or one of their co-workers so when you offer them to see you for dinner or go somewhere to listen to some music. BUT the last thing you should do is OFFER them to just come over to your place just for sex (or asked how much they charge for the hour). That will turn them off and they will treat you just like any other a dime a doz trick they see everyday or seen a million of and will charge you as such. So you may be better off seeing them there at their job!
I must also add what AMERIOCA said how he can pull them from high end Tier 1 Termas like Centaurs for free I agree a guy can pull dimes mostly ONLY if she is attractive to you or something about you it doesn't always have to do with looks or visual (but it helps) hit the gym !!! LOL if you can make a chick laugh and forget her problems for a few hours or show her a nice time and if you enjoy dancing and show her a fun time that can be sexy to her and most guys on here know how these Brazilian girls love to have a fun time in some of these places you will see short OBESE guys with some dimes hell go to the airport and see how many hot looking dimes with short fat guys LOL or (maybe its his wallet that they dig ) LOL.
Kid Cisco
Tiradentes
03-28-12, 03:00
BRASILIA, Brazil (AP) — Brazil is asking more than 2, 000 websites to remove sexual content that promotes Latin America's biggest country as a sex tourism destination, the Tourism Ministry said Tuesday.
In 2011, the ministry identified 2, 169 websites with photos of women in sensual poses and invitations for sexual encounters with minors, the ministry said in a Tuesday statement. Many of the sites were hosted in the United States.
The ministry said that 1, 100 of the websites have eliminated their sex-oriented content and that it was trying to convince the remaining sites to do the same.
Tackling the websites is part of an ongoing campaign to combat the sexual exploitation of minors during the 2014 World Cup.
Early last year, Brazil started distributing posters and ads warning that sexual exploitation of minors is a crime. They were distributed in countries from where most tourists to Brazil come from — the United States, Germany, Italy, France, the Netherlands and Spain.
"The exploitation of sex is a crime and those responsible for it must be punished," Tourism Minister Gastao Vieira said in the Tuesday statement.
He said the ministry's campaign that focused on Brazil's "natural beauties, cultural diversity and friendly people" helped attract more than 5 million foreign tourists in 2011.
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Are we one of these websites? Take sex tourism and what are you left with? An overly overated expensive violent corrupt country.
BRASILIA, Brazil (AP) — Brazil is asking more than 2, 000 websites to remove sexual content that promotes Latin America's biggest country as a sex tourism destination, the Tourism Ministry said Tuesday.
In 2011, the ministry identified 2, 169 websites with photos of women in sensual poses and invitations for sexual encounters with minors, the ministry said in a Tuesday statement. Many of the sites were hosted in the United States.
The ministry said that 1, 100 of the websites have eliminated their sex-oriented content and that it was trying to convince the remaining sites to do the same.
Tackling the websites is part of an ongoing campaign to combat the sexual exploitation of minors during the 2014 World Cup.
Early last year, Brazil started distributing posters and ads warning that sexual exploitation of minors is a crime. They were distributed in countries from where most tourists to Brazil come from — the United States, Germany, Italy, France, the Netherlands and Spain.
"The exploitation of sex is a crime and those responsible for it must be punished," Tourism Minister Gastao Vieira said in the Tuesday statement.
He said the ministry's campaign that focused on Brazil's "natural beauties, cultural diversity and friendly people" helped attract more than 5 million foreign tourists in 2011.
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Are we one of these websites? Take sex tourism and what are you left with? An overly overated expensive violent corrupt country.Great info! And intel this is why I wanted to come to Rio now before my Visa ran out and before ALL hell breaks out and it doesn't look like I will be renewing it anytime soon before the World Cup and the games come here. I hate to say this but I feel by the time the games get here they will have done away with the top Termas or at least shut them down for a long period of time as you can see Rio Anitigo and Aerorputo have closed down and by the time the games get here the only ones you may have left are the ones I wouldn't go to if they were giving out for pussy. So this could be my last trip this is WHY I am making sure I get as much intel on the hot girls I have met here their (Facebook info, e-mails address, cell phone numbers) etc. Etc.
And I try to meet as many local girls that I can too because this shit is going to get real fuck up for trickin real soon in Rio as it stands now, as for the late night action as I can tell isn't worth my time after a few hours at Balcony Bar I was sick and had to leave.. and IF you haven't made a date early in the day or the day before you are out of luck at night and it is only going to get worst...hell I was in LA when they host the 1984 games and the World Cup in 1994 I seen them try to clean up the city and almost went broke after the games..
The next spot that is going to be nice if they ever open it up is going to be Cuba..
Kid Cisco
I see how the article keeps talking about minors. Minors, minors, MINORS! That's always the direction they want to go in when they talk about battling sex tourism. Guys from all over the world are going to places like Brazil just to have sex with minors. That's what it's all about. Isn't it? What bullshit! Yeah, we have a few sick fucks here and there doing that, but by and large that's not what the deal is. But asshole authorities looking to make a name for themselves will latch onto that BS to justify their actions. And at the same time, the hypocrites are out fucking tutes just like the rest of us! Reading this bullshit is making me sick to my stomach. Prediction: Balcony will be shut down or it's "activities" greatly curbed by the time the Cup and the Games come to town. All remaining action in Copa will be brought to an end. And sadly, I believe The Kid is right about the termas too. We're probably going to lose some more termas along the way before the big sporting events commence in Brazil.
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BRASILIA, Brazil (AP) — Brazil is asking more than 2, 000 websites to remove sexual content that promotes Latin America's biggest country as a sex tourism destination, the Tourism Ministry said Tuesday.I think MinistéRio do Turismo is doing a thing. They wants to accomplish an image of Brazil that's not a sex destination mainly associated with pornography and prostitution. They wants to fight the sexual exploitation of minors and doesn't want websites abusing the MTU's symbols in their propaganda.
http://zerohora.clicrbs.com.br/rs/geral/noticia/2012/03/ministerio-notifica-mais-de-1-7-mil-sites-que-fazem-propaganda-do-brasil-como-roteiro-de-turismo-sexual-3708072.html
http://oglobo.globo.com/pais/ministerio-notifica-17-mil-sites-que-associam-brasil-roteiro-sexual-4427206
A quick googling, on terms like Brazil sex vacation, you'll find several sites that gives just the image Brazil wants to avoid.
(This one got closed down http://oglobo.globo.com/in/4428739-3ef-048/FT500A/MTurismo.jpg)
Just read something on gpguia that made my day! Darlene has returned to the game! For those of you who don't know (and I assume I am talking to nobody here) , Darlene has one of the best asses and nicest attitudes in the business.
http://www.amantesecia.com.br/Darlene-Amaro
I'm in Rio in the soon so I'll be making that call.
Eric,
I remember you asking me this question before about the " Facebook" girls I have met and I don't think I answer it at that time as you can see from reading some of the posts here many guys have their own methods that seem to work for them. One guy method may not work well for another guy you need to find your style and what works for you.
BUT, I will tell you one of my method is to treat a Terma girl the same way I would treat a Rio Sul Mall girl I met at the Food court or a girl I met in line at Bob's what I have notice in my life when I am at any of the top South Beach at nightclubs like Mansion or Liv or at a high end night club in Vegas like Pure, Tao, Haze, Hyde, etc. Many Vegas escorts, showgirls, cocktail waitress etc. Go to these clubs on their days off and ALL they want to do is hang out and party and if a guy step to them the right way (and not as a Trick) they will fuck the shit out of him that night. NOT all girls that sell ass for a living want to be on duty selling ass 24/7. They are still females and want and need attention to still let them know they are still a woman and not just another hooker.
Besides when most of these girls take off their make-up and put on their jeans and t-shirts and the come to the front desk at my hotel asking for me they don't even look like the same girl from the Terma they look so avg. So it's easy for me to treat them as such.
The same hold true with these Termas girls they have normal lives they shop for milk and bread and many work out at local gyms and love to listen to music and as you can see from inside the Termas they love to dance. I love to dance as well and I don't have a problem showing or asking girls out to their favorite spot to hang out and dance or listen to some music. Or grab something to eat.
What I said a few months ago still hold true now. I been here in Rio for over 2 weeks and my 1st week or so I was a madman or a monster fucking girls left and right at the top Termas and after that I built up points at some of the Termas were my entrance was free and I could just go in there and hang out I had girls telling me oh you know my friend so and so don't you? She works at Termas X Y Z you took her out didn't you? Why you didn't ask me out? Etc.
BUT! Eric don't come off as a TRICK if I ran up to chicks in Vegas or South Beach or LA asking them to come by my place and HOW MUCH would they charge me? Of course if she don't really want to be with me or if she ONLY look at me as a trick she will say hell if this guy is willing to pay me hell I will charge him the sky be it 300 reals or 500 reals! You want her to WANT to be with you. Most of these girls have babies and do you think? They charged their baby Father by the hour? Or their current local boyfriend the hour? Hell no. They mostly ONLY charge gringos because many of us are so fast to reach in our pockets and pay them. Or say or ask HOW MUCH?
I know I know before anyone say it I know this is a site for paying for sex and there isn't anything wrong with that and this is what we are here for and this is what I do as well pay for sex BUT Eric asked me for my advice and maybe he and others are looking for other options for this reason I post my answer to his question here on the forum and not just PM with my answer him. And most of all he asked me in a respectful manner.
So the answer Eric isn't cut and dry after living here in Rio for 1. 5 years you shouldn't even have time to step inside a Termas from girls knocking down your front door. LOL I only been here for 2 weeks and I have to take the phone off the hook in my hotel room when I have a girls over so I won't have any problems or issues. Rio is a gold mine at just picking up single girls even on the Metro Train at around 4-5 pm downtown you have working business ladies working around in their heels and dresses just offer them to have some coffee or drink with you before they go home and IF they don't have time for it pass them your hotel or apt or cell phone number and say when you have time give me a call. It's so damn easy here.
Most of these Termas girls mostly have a bad view or outlook on most guys ALL they see mostly are 90% of guys that are married or single local guys that are cheating on their wives or girlfriend with them or one of their co-workers so when you offer them to see you for dinner or go somewhere to listen to some music. BUT the last thing you should do is OFFER them to just come over to your place just for sex (or asked how much they charge for the hour). That will turn them off and they will treat you just like any other a dime a doz trick they see everyday or seen a million of and will charge you as such. So you may be better off seeing them there at their job!
I must also add what AMERIOCA said how he can pull them from high end Tier 1 Termas like Centaurs for free I agree a guy can pull dimes mostly ONLY if she is attractive to you or something about you it doesn't always have to do with looks or visual (but it helps) hit the gym! LOL if you can make a chick laugh and forget her problems for a few hours or show her a nice time and if you enjoy dancing and show her a fun time that can be sexy to her and most guys on here know how these Brazilian girls love to have a fun time in some of these places you will see short OBESE guys with some dimes hell go to the airport and see how many hot looking dimes with short fat guys LOL or (maybe its his wallet that they dig) LOL.
Kid CiscoI never thought I would see the day where I agree with one of Kid Ciscos posts but the above is absolutely true. The key to having these girls come over for free is to just treat them like any other girl that you would date. You MUST differentiate yourself from being just another client, whom most working girls dislike, to being a friend. If you ask them how much $ then they will treat you like just another client, if you ask them to the beach or just out on a normal date then that separates you from being a client.
I personally won't have a girl over for $ as a rule. When they come over for free the sex is so much better and she is there because she wants to be. From memory I have paid about 6 girls to come over in my nearly 10 years of visiting / living in Rio. To me having a girl come over and paying her is so boring, it is not even worth it. If she comes over for free it is so much more fun because she is into it and you can go and do normal stuff. So much better.
Making Moves
03-29-12, 14:58
I was at Balcony Bar last night and it looked like a FREAK show a bunch of ugly looking monsters. Out of about 60-70 girls I saw maybe 2 that I felt was ok lookingI said this a few pages back, Balcony has average girls, every now and again, I saw a really cute one but most times they were not hot.
Kid cisco, very good reports and advices.
The last year, I have try to do what you say "invite girl dining, go to the beach, take a drink."
Someones have say yes and it was really good.
Others ones only would to see me outside just for fuck and be paid, no others things!
You speak about brazilian girls of Rio Sul Mall girl, maybe you can give some advices for how to find here, to start talking with her and more.
PatmarBeleza1
03-30-12, 03:41
Bubba boy and Kid Cisco are right on.
Treat the GDP as a real girl, a real person, real friend, and better sex will happen.
My example. Which is 1 girl out of 150 I have done in Rio. I was staying in touch with her as she was the best sex out of all the GDPs over 7 trips, including getting her number in Italy and calling her. I happen to be in Rio at the same time she has just come back from Italy. I SKYPE, email her, convince her to come over to my apartment. 12th floor overlooking copa beach. And she is trying to get out of the biz. She comes in, kissing, sucking my cock, BBFS. 12 hours. 2 days later, her anniversario, and she comes over (out of the other choices she had) , dinner, repeat. First time BBFS, and it is with a girl the GPGUIA and hotforum brasileirsos are lusting after.
So, find the top rated chick in a terma or a freelancer in hotforum, get to know her as a real person, and just date her like any girl, and it could happen.
Or it could not.
But if it does, it could be the best sexo of your life.
I never thought I would see the day where I agree with one of Kid Ciscos posts but the above is absolutely true. The key to having these girls come over for free is to just treat them like any other girl that you would date. You MUST differentiate yourself from being just another client, whom most working girls dislike, to being a friend. If you ask them how much $ then they will treat you like just another client, if you ask them to the beach or just out on a normal date then that separates you from being a client.
I personally won't have a girl over for $ as a rule. When they come over for free the sex is so much better and she is there because she wants to be. From memory I have paid about 6 girls to come over in my nearly 10 years of visiting / living in Rio. To me having a girl come over and paying her is so boring, it is not even worth it. If she comes over for free it is so much more fun because she is into it and you can go and do normal stuff. So much better.
Interesting discussion about dating GP's for free sex.
During the years I have dated several GP's. Wonderful and kind girls. The sex had been good and free.
The only reason I would date a GP for free sex is that a girl, GP or regular, performs better when she does it because of desire instead of money.
Still I prefer dating regular girls instead of GP's. I rather cuddle and be romantic with a regular girl than a girl that had 8 other dicks during her day at work.
Ipanema Carioca
03-30-12, 07:54
Interesting discussion about dating GP's for free sex.
During the years I have dated several GP's. Wonderful and kind girls. The sex had been good and free.
The only reason I would date a GP for free sex is that a girl, GP or regular, performs better when she does it because of desire instead of money.
Still I prefer dating regular girls instead of GP's. I rather cuddle and be romantic with a regular girl than a girl that had 8 other dicks during her day at work.In Rio there are gdp and non gdp, but there is no such thing as "free pussy or sex". In fact, the most expensive pussy and sex is when you think it is "free". A non gdp in a developing country. 3rd world and eve 1st world will always want or need something they can't afford, and the will ask the guy who they have been given unpaid sex to. You're going to pay something down the law, but it depends on "how much."
In Rio there are gdp and non gdp, but there is no such thing as "free pussy or sex". In fact, the most expensive pussy and sex is when you think it is "free". A non gdp in a developing country. 3rd world and eve 1st world will always want or need something they can't afford, and the will ask the guy who they have been given unpaid sex to. You're going to pay something down the law, but it depends on "how much."
I'm very economic when it comes to P4P. I choose privês and avoid termas etc. However if I'm having a "steady GF" I happily take her out to clubs, cinema, dinner or invite her on a trip to Búzios or Ilha Grande. I treat her very well without spoiling her with weekly visits at Porcão or Marius. With a steady GF which I have feelings for I would never start counting expenses and think "Shit, this dinner cost me two visits at Tigresas."
With a non-pro who are just intended to be a one-night stand it's different. If you pick her up on a club, the beach or on the street and bring her home for a single sex encounter it might cost you nothing or maybe just a drink. If you have to go through the process of dating her, with dinner at restaurants, cinema etc, before you get her to bed, it can be quite costly. I dislike investing in a date without having a p*ssy-guarantee. I rather invite her home to my place for dinner. Brazilian girls are not used to guys who can cock well and are easily impressed. A dinner at your place with wine, candles, soft music and you have your p*ssy guaranteed at a low cost.
Of course you also have the non-pro's that fall into the category, piranhas. They will f*ck with you without charging money, but they will expect plenty of shopping, presents, help with bills and maybe a future together with you. They might cost you way more than any terma. Those piranhas can be very sneaky and abusive. You just have to be smarter than them. Keep control on your expenses, get sex and dump her when she becomes too greedy.
I'm very happy with the combination of GP's and non-pro's, but it propably depends on how much time you spend in Brazil. If you only have 1-2 weeks I guess you might want to keep to GP's all the way. With 3 months things look different.
Mr Enternational
03-30-12, 10:21
I dislike investing in a date without having a p*ssy-guarantee. I rather invite her home to my place for dinner. Brazilian girls are not used to guys who can cock well and are easily impressed. A dinner at your place with wine, candles, soft music and you have your p*ssy guaranteed at a low cost.Freudian slip? It seems that most women on this planet are not used to a guy who can cook or clean. Everyday chicks come to my room in Thailand and I hear who cleans this place for you? It is very nice here. I'm like I do it myself. Why would I need someone else to do it. For the most part they are shocked that a man cleans up and has a room nicer than theirs with all kinds of decorations and shit. They get comfortable and want to come back to spend the night everyday.
But like you said Sperto even when I am in the States and I want to invite a girl out I will offer to cook for them. But now-a-days it seems like most of those gold diggers refuse and request to be taken out somewhere. So for me that old custom has pretty much fallen by the wayside.
Exec Talent
03-30-12, 11:36
This is an interesting discussion indeed. I remember a time when guys, who now talk about women in flowery terms, were describing them, shall we say, less elegantly. Seems that the philosophy back then was basically one of pilage the land and ravage the women. My how times have changed.
Ipanema Carioca
03-30-12, 20:41
I'm very economic when it comes to P4P. (see entire Sperto post below)You are right Sperto in your entire post. I have never been in Brasil more than 2 weeks at a time in 15 trips, sad to say, but I'm working on it. So my time is short to be romancing. However, if I were there 2-3 months a visit or longer, then I will fine me a non pro. But I have a general female policy about their attitude, neediness, the big picture in life, and the long haul, which the same I require from American females. I just can't maintain a long distance relationship, and I had gdps try me with their "Captain Save A Hoe" emails that they have an emergency bull shit. I know there are women in life every where who are to proud to be for help or money. I was in the Sosua, Dominican Republic last month spending two days with a girl I met before. Why 2 days, because she had her own new scooter and her own business so it was on her. Then when I return to the US she calls and says "Popi, I need food for my house." She lives with her mother, her baby and her sister who too is hoing."Sell your scooter," I said and hung up. Back to Rio. If I lived in Rio or anywhere, I would treat a non pro GFE style, and treat the gdp like a gdp. But until I can have longer trips, I got to keep it moving. Find, fuck and forget the gdps.
Mr Enternational
03-30-12, 21:13
Somebody is making some money.
Similarly on the other side of the globe, passenger traffic in Rio de Janeiro (GIG) grew by 20.5 percent, compared to 2010.Http://www.emailbrain.com/eb_members/12262/ftp/Attachments/PR_2012-03-27_PreliminaryResults_2011.pdf
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-28/asian-airports-storm-global-rankings-as-atlanta-keeps-top-spot.html
Azn Safado
03-30-12, 22:16
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So the answer Eric isn't cut and dry after living here in Rio for 1. 5 years you shouldn't even have time to step inside a Termas from girls knocking down your front door. LOL I only been here for 2 weeks and I have to take the phone off the hook in my hotel room when I have a girls over so I won't have any problems or issues. Rio is a gold mine at just picking up single girls even on the Metro Train at around 4-5 pm downtown you have working business ladies working around in their heels and dresses just offer them to have some coffee or drink with you before they go home and IF they don't have time for it pass them your hotel or apt or cell phone number and say when you have time give me a call. It's so damn easy here.
Most of these Termas girls mostly have a bad view or outlook on most guys ALL they see mostly are 90% of guys that are married or single local guys that are cheating on their wives or girlfriend with them or one of their co-workers so when you offer them to see you for dinner or go somewhere to listen to some music. BUT the last thing you should do is OFFER them to just come over to your place just for sex (or asked how much they charge for the hour). That will turn them off and they will treat you just like any other a dime a doz trick they see everyday or seen a million of and will charge you as such. So you may be better off seeing them there at their job!
Kid CiscoPicking up business women on the metro on the way home from work is sooooo easy? I am not sure on what planet or country you are referring to. Maybe in Iceland where the inhabitants don't ever see anyone but Icelandic people. Ha. I doubt these Rio women riding on the metro on the way home from work want to be bothered or hit on. If they say they don't have time and you give them your contact info, they may accept it out of politeness but I just can't see them eager to call and come over to get bizzy or hook up. Upper-class and upper-middle-class women in Rio aren't exactly throwing themselves at Gringoes like you make it sound. Maybe if you are Bradley Cooper in the looks department and can speak pretty fluent Portuguese, then I can see it happening. Living in Rio for a few months now, I've tried talking to these attractive women on the bus on the way home from Centro. They seem to be polite, but they aren't all super friendly and willing to just chat it up with every random foreigner. Then again, maybe my game is below average. Ha. What's the old saying "If your game is average in your home country, then it's going to be even worse in a foreign country". Now girls working at Rio Sul mall. Well, they have less self-esteem and money, so they may be more game for that approach of giving them your number if they don't accept your initial invitation. I don't know KC, maybe what you are saying is true in your experience here, but I just wanted to give some perspective to others based on my experience here. Actually, my American friends and I have had better luck going out to Lapa and picking up non-GDP's. After all, they are already out and looking for a good time.
As for inviting Terma girls over for paid sex, I don't think it's as bad as you say. That was my mo When I first came to Rio and it has worked well over the years. When they come over, I would just treat them as a normal person. We would chill and watch tv or go get something to eat at one of those Sucos bars before doing anything. Then they just realize,"this guy's pretty ok. Not the sicko pervert that I thought." Ha. This would result in hanging out on other days without mention of the P4P. I think it really comes down to how she perceives you after being with you outside of her element (the terma). Of course, it would be better if you could just say "Hey, want to go to the beach tomorrow" and they all say yes. Keep in mind, they are working girls and most need some kind of motivation ($$$) to see a customer outside of her work. Hell, if I were a terma girl and had a choice between sleeping in until 1 pm or having to get up early to hang out with a customer at the beach, I'd take the sleep time. LOL.
Ipanema Carioca
03-30-12, 22:26
Freudian slip? It seems that most women on this planet are not used to a guy who can cook or clean. Everyday chicks come to my room in Thailand and I hear who cleans this place for you? It is very nice here.(See below for Mr. Enternational's entire post)When I use to wine and dine I finally awoke to the waste when an American chick asked me when I was going to cook for her, as we sat in a nice restaurant on a date I initiated. I said to myself,"really *****. I wine and dine you and you want me to cook too? What are you going to do for me?" Meaning, if I pay for ding out, she could at least volunteer a home-cooked meal as the female. And now I eat where I want to eat and go to events I want to go. But I will ask,"Hey Giselle, I feel like some sushi, do you want to go, or, I want some sangria, do you want to go?" They can either say yes or no. Also, if a woman cooks for me I'll cook fore her, because if you spoil them like you're their daddy, etc, then they will expect it. When it comes to women who are not p4p, the get spoiled and temperamental with high expections. And that goes for women in general. As for gdp, they now figure they're in control because the are hot and sex is their power. ***** please, females tyrn 18 yeard ols and available every minute, every hour, every day and!
As for inviting Terma girls over for paid sex, I don't think it's as bad as you say. That was my mo When I first came to Rio and it has worked well over the years. When they come over, I would just treat them as a normal person. We would chill and watch tv or go get something to eat at one of those Sucos bars before doing anything. Then they just realize,"this guy's pretty ok. Not the sicko pervert that I thought." Ha. This would result in hanging out on other days without mention of the P4P. I think it really comes down to how she perceives you after being with you outside of her element (the terma). Of course, it would be better if you could just say "Hey, want to go to the beach tomorrow" and they all say yes. Keep in mind, they are working girls and most need some kind of motivation ($$$) to see a customer outside of her work. Hell, if I were a terma girl and had a choice between sleeping in until 1 pm or having to get up early to hang out with a customer at the beach, I'd take the sleep time. LOL.That works as well, a lot of these girls have been thoroughly abused, so if you treat them decently, they are more than willingly to come on over for freebies just to receive a little but of "sweat lovin" and attention. There are many ways to achieve the end result but the common theme is treat them like normal people and not like workers.
Ok, so it is that time of the year ago. Prices keep going up, addresses change and some places simply fade away. So in January I believe an update is due!
If anyone has any suggestions or has picked up any mistakes in the previous report please PM (Private message) me.Hi I will go in Mai to Mariana-joinville and Rio do yoiu have adresses of massageparlours with prices etc. Thanks it will be my firts visit
Hotdino
Maybe I'm just weird but I can't understand this need guys have to score "free" sex in Rio. Wining, Dining, days at the beach, etc? I have never been in Rio for more than 8 days at a time. Basically my time is far more valuable than any money I might save playing daytime boyfriend to a terma chick or any chick for that matter. I just have never had any interest in "dating" anybody there with hopes of getting the pussy for "free". Who cares. Rio is a 1 week vacation for me where my goal is to bang the living $hit out of a WHOLE LOT of big booty stunnas. That's it. Diners out, tongue kissing, cuddling. I've never been able to figure that out. That's what I do here at home. Why in the world would I want to spend time doing that in Rio? Just my two cents. I just don't want the board to turn into some sort of online collection of love novels. LOL. BTW, no offense to anyone out there.
Picking up business women on the metro on the way home from work is sooooo easy? I am not sure on what planet or country you are referring to.
I actually didn't read Kid Cisco report. I just scrolled by very quickly...
I've picked up several women on buses in Brazil. The metro is way much harder. On the metro in Rio people tend to just sit quiet and minding their own business. It's not like the buses where people use to chit-chat and you can move around more easily.
... Also, if a woman cooks for me I'll cook fore her, because if you spoil them like you're their daddy, etc, then they will expect it. When it comes to women who are not p4p, the get spoiled and temperamental with high expections....
The strategy with dinner, candles and soft music is nothing but a step go get your brazilian date in bed on your first date. Not meaning that you're supposed to sit in the sofa farting watching football and yelling out for another beer on your next date. After the first date it's her turn to make a delicious feijoada, churrasco or camarão com chuchu.
That works as well, a lot of these girls have been thoroughly abused, so if you treat them decently, they are more than willingly to come on over for freebies just to receive a little but of "sweat lovin" and attention.
When sessioning with a GP I like to chat with her afterwards. If they are not the usual single mothers or students at a private university they often have "heart-breaking" stories to tell why they became GPs. Often with abuse involved. That means that they often appreciate some "true love and kindness".
Maybe I'm just weird but I can't understand this need guys have to score "free" sex in Rio.
Because of better quality on the sex and save money.
I am glad to see other guys have had good results and meeting and being with females without always feeling they have to start their stop watch for a hour or reach into the wall safe for some reals others guys like Bubba Boy, and Kyrawz and a few others have had good results meeting and getting girls to go out with them without always having to pay. And I must agree with Sperto the quality of sex is much much better! Then having her making fake sounds and trying to get you off as fast as she can.
I posted my post ONLY because Eric Cartman asked me for some advice on what have worked for me and he have noted that he have been in Rio for over a year and some months and most of the girls from the Termas he met wanted to charge him 300+ reals to come over a few was able to take less around 200 reals (look I am sure some guys don't have a problem paying 300 reals each time they want to fuck a chick in the 8 days or 2 weeks they are in Rio and are ONLY interested and want to fuck as many hookers that they can pay to get their dick hard for in that time period ). And for those guys you can STOP reading my post right now and skip over it and don't waste your time reading anymore. Rather then post anymore of this topic I don't want to bore anyone (that only want to know about paying for ass) just PM me if anyone have any questions on the methods that have worked for me. I don't have a problem sharing what have worked for me.
You see the 1st thing I posted on my last post to Eric Cartman was everyone have different methods that works for them and NOT all methods will work for everyone.
I will also add when I am in the " Sao Conrade area" at the Fashion Mall you have some females that come from families that are members of the Gavea Golf and Country Club and trying to impress them or even trying to flash 300- 400 reals at them means nothing they spend that on a pair of socks LOL so if you want to hang out or go to some nice parties or go see some different parts of Brazil I guess you will have to have some so called "game" LOL
The girls you meet at Rio Sul Mall at the " food court" and the business woman you meet in Centro is going to behave different then the female you run into on the streets of Ipanema. To me game or whatever you want to call it doesn't matter to me IF I am in Rome or at a nightclub in South Beach or on the strip in Vegas a female is a female to me.
A female on a Metro / Bus be it in Rio or in New York is going to look at you and " evaluate" should she talk to you or smile at you in MOST cases in a half of second. This is why I try to stay on point meaning dressing nice and working out and having a fresh haircut or clean shaved face.
So if you feel good about yourself she can tell it. I have always stood out mostly because I can't hide ( nor do I want to) I stand 6'5 and if a girl glance at me or make eye contact at me I will look at her and IF I catch her looking twice at me I will smile at her and if she smile back I may wink at her and if she laughs or smile I will get up and walk over to her and start talking to her or hand her my card to me (this is easy and this is simple to me). What is the worst thing that can happen? She get off the bus / train? Or don't take your card? In most cases she will give me her office business card (maybe she have a boyfriend at home) etc. who knows ??
My attitude have always been when meeting girls what is the worst thing that can happen? In most cases you will NEVER see them again so what you have to lose go for it. If I haven't went for it when meeting some of the girls in my life I wouldn't have dating some of the hottest girls from around the world... life is short go for it and have fun..
And like I said, for many guys they don't have the time nor do they want to spend the time dating or meeting non-pros they come to Rio for 8 days to two weeks and they want to have sex 24/7 for that time period and for them there is nothing at all wrong with that all I was doing is showing there are more options and other ideas out there when it comes to meeting and dealing with females.... for some guys they just can't believe a guy can be with a girl be it a non-pro or a Terma girl without paying her by the hour ( guess what ? it can happen and it does all the time) just because it haven't happen to some of you doesn't mean it don't happen to other guys..
(Convincing someone to believe you is all about convincing him to either accept a NEW belief or update his knowledge or belief about an existing idea ).
Kid Cisco
When sessioning with a GP I like to chat with her afterwards. If they are not the usual single mothers or students at a private university they often have "heart-breaking" stories to tell why they became GPs. Often with abuse involved. That means that they often appreciate some "true love and kindness".That's nice. They also often appreciate some "tips" too.
PatmarBeleza1
03-31-12, 06:21
Agree with Sperto, the reason to go for the mini-relationship is the better quality of the sex.
There is also the "most interesting man in the world" part of getting the girl that is tops on the Brasilian sex boards to give it up BBFS. But maybe that is just me.
I had one non pro. Could've married her. Sex wasn't as good as the pros.
Because of better quality on the sex and save money.[/QUOTE]
Agree with Sperto, the reason to go for the mini-relationship is the better quality of the sex.
There is also the "most interesting man in the world" part of getting the girl that is tops on the Brasilian sex boards to give it up BBFS. But maybe that is just me.And this is a good thing?
PatmarBeleza1
03-31-12, 15:48
This is a good thing.
My tests have always been clean, if that's what you're asking.
And this is a good thing?
Cisco, how many of the regular girls you picked up at malls and metros asked for a little money after. Maybe 50 to 75 reals for whatever reason. Also, how many of the regular girls turned out to be semi pros and asked for 150 reals for their "name excuse" reason at the end of the night.
This is a good thing.
My tests have always been clean, if that's what you're asking.I'm at a loss for words.
I used to luv the mongering outlook in Brasil around 2004, however, things changed after help closed. I feel cheerless for fellas who fly 7000+ miles to Brasil and accepting Balcony as their only preference for the night. To be frank, I'm still coming to Brazil in July for commercial and pleasure incentive for a 2 week trip. However, I still contemplate that Copacabana p4p scene is purely foolhardy costly. I don't recognize that Brazilian chicks that moved to Europe for flourishing reasons are charging less than the cost of p4p in their habitat. I think it's about time that people stop assessing from their little head and realize that you're paying one of excessive prices for a p4p in Rio 2012. I don't mind paying $200 for TLN but every Terma in Brazil cost least $200 or + for 40 mins excluding the plane and hotel expense. Terma owners, along with gdpz of Balcony who never studied economics 101 can pull are capable of pulling every trick in the book shredding tourist, thus, why ditch you and take my voyage somewhere else to explore a diverse flavor of mongering since they proffer the world class prices in Brasil for a doable trait anyhow. I'm glad I found a unlike spot like London, where I'm paying less for p4p vs. Brasil, for the same services and got the vast variety of auxiliary fiery chicks to desire rather than the restricted options.
Cisco, how many of the regular girls you picked up at malls and metros asked for a little money after. Maybe 50 to 75 reals for whatever reason. Also, how many of the regular girls turned out to be semi pros and asked for 150 reals for their "name excuse" reason at the end of the night.HelpRules:
I will try to answer your question the best I can, I haven't had a problem with females that I have asked out IF I have meet them in upscale places or areas such as Sao Conrade or even Ipanema. What I am amazed at is when a guy meet a chick that lives in the Favela or in some other low class area or lives with 3-4 other girls or even in a Tier 1 Terma girl and the a monger start acting like a trick trying to sell himself telling her how he is going to saved her from the business or take her to the United States or take care of her kids or he is going to pay her rent and get her nails done or take her shopping for a laptop or get her a iphone or some other stuff LOL and then he is crying and get made when she ask his ass for some money? $$ LOL
Look IF you play around with a snake and it bite you then who do you blame? Yourself or the snake?
To me it doesn't matter IF I am in Rio or Ipanema or Centro or South Beach or Vegas I am going to walk around with Confidence and looking and dress very well, any female from anywhere will want to be with a confident MALE that is dress well or let's just say a ALFA male. If you come off as a simp or as a hungry thirsty monger that haven't had any pussy since you last been on a mongering trip somewhere she will be able to tell it. By your actions and they will try to break you and asked you for everything she can money $$, ipod's. Iphone, laptops you name it. I try to be relax when I try to meet non-pros. Think about it HOW many times have you ever seen those front desk girls at the Termas ask Brazilian guys for money? Or tips? I been to ALL the major Termas and I only been asked one time for a tip from a front desk chick LOL and that was on my 1st visit of this trip (I can't blame her she was trying to test me) after I laugh and walk away she haven't ask me again and I been back there many times it was at Monte Carlo were the female asked me for some money..
Now I been going to Brazil for a long time since the late 70's it been times were I spent days and there were times I spent weeks and also there were times were I spent a few months. This last time I spent almost 3 weeks over there I just got back. I will do the Termas HARD for the 1st few days and then I am able to go out hunting for normal non-pros. Or hook up with girls I have been talking with on Facebook.
So to answer your question HelpRules I would say over the past 3 weeks I have had one chick that asked me for money (and this was AFTER I spent hours with her and fucked her) I met her on-line and didn't know she was a hooker LOL LOL I was shock when she asked me for money LOL LOL I told her look IF you fucked a local guy you wouldn't ask him for money would you? So what make you think I will give you some money I didn't pick you up at some bar or street corner to make a long story short I gave her 20 reals and sent her on her way.... since that night she have sent me e-mails and is acting like nothing had every happen WTF ?? she must be insane or something ??
Was I [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) or angry NO I wasn't I felt I should have screened her better and after having so many over my place and fucking so many Termas, and other females I met online and other places and to have one chick ask me for money I will take that LOL
Many local girls IF you meet them around the Copa some will try to " run game" on you and will try to test you and see IF you will break them off like a trick and give up some $$$ it comes down to how you meet them and sometimes it will be how it will end. BUT I try not to have " a trick mind-set" so like I said before I just try to treat her like I SAID before like any other female you would meet in the states or somewhere overseas. Ask her out for dinner or even you can hire a chef to cook and serve you and her at your place that have always work for some sure fire ass lol
The same way I wouldn't hang around some broke ass hood rat here in the states looking for some simp to pay for her nails or hair weave WHY would I fly 9+ hours and go miles and miles away and deal with one in Rio? Some guys ONLY feel confidence when they are dealing with someone that they feel is under them when it comes to economic $$ or they only want to deal with hookers in need of money this gives some guys a false sense of power or control over a female. You see I don't have a problem meeting and dealing with ANY females that works have a good job and that have her own house / Condo drive her own Benz / Range Rover and can fly 1st class or Private Jet etc. Without giving out to much of my private life info many of these chicks I have met on Facebook have viewed some of my pictures and seen some of my life style when it comes to places I have been and who I been around and what I do etc. So they feel they may have some things in common with me so to them they wouldn't have a need to ask for 50 or 75 reals or have a reason to come up with some " name excuse" for some 150 reals hell I have seen some of these chicks tip double that much after a dinner out with a group of friends....asking for money from a chick that have money is viewed as being tacking.. and having no class..
So long story short just try to meet non-pros IF that is your thing in areas other then (Termas, stripclubs, bars) around Rio and IF you do meet them (at a Terma) just try to treat them like a normal chick IF she do ask you for 20 reals for taxi fare after she just spent the past 3-5 hours fucking and sucking your brains out. WHY not pay her that? It is still cheaper then paying 200-300 reals for 40mins to a hour in a Termas. Hell in most cases IF a chick come over my place and if she stays and show me a great time I will slip 20 reals in her pocketbook when she is taking a shower. Most of these chicks don't even like to ask for money for a taxi fare money. And most cases she is there for the DICK and sex. Hell if she wanted to charge you for sex there are many tricks she could find in the boite that will pay her 200-300 reals she may had turned down a few horny tricks that afternoon just so she can come over and be with you so 20 reals isn't nothing at least not to me for a hot chick to come over my place and give up her booty hole to me and have me pound her for a hour or so in her booty LOL LOL LOL
I have met some girls that had their own cars and I will still give them some money for gas at times because many live hours away. And I don't feel like a trick when doing so either. Hell with gas prices the way they are here in the states I would give a chick some gas money if she had to drive hours to get to my place. And gave me some ass...or if I had a good time being around her..
BUT, to be honest and this isn't to put anyone down but some guys wouldn't know how to speak or even talk to a non-pro female UNLESS she is a hooker or some type of a semi-pro to them ALL female are Gold diggers or looking for something to get out of you... and for those guys nothing I or anyone can post that will be able to change their minds and trust me I wouldn't waste a second of my time to do so ... I use to feel sorry for them BUT many feel this is their only outlet when it comes to meeting or finding a female to have sex with is to keep it simple and just pay her .. this keep them from ever having to learn how to date or keep a female interest for more then a hour session...it is what it is..
I don't want to turned this into a dating lesson advice site because I am a monger and I enjoy going to Rio and going to the Termas and fucking hookers in those places hell I enjoy going around the world fucking hookers to keep it real BUT I also like meeting non-pros also and hooking up with them I feel IF I don't do it I will end up like some of the lonely shy broken down mongers I seen in the Termas this past trip that look to be in their late 60's or 70's.. so IF anyone have anymore questions please just send me a PM because after all this site is for fucking and paying for sex..
Kid Cisco
Ipanema Carioca
04-01-12, 06:54
Cisco, how many of the regular girls you picked up at malls and metros asked for a little money after. Maybe 50 to 75 reals for whatever reason. Also, how many of the regular girls turned out to be semi pros and asked for 150 reals for their "name excuse" reason at the end of the night.I'm not trying to be mean, but 99. 99999 of all women are semi pros.
Sorry for interrupting the dating-lessons.
I heard a rumour that David is planning to close Balcony. Anybody can confirm that?
Sorry for interrupting the dating-lessons.
I heard a rumour that David is planning to close Balcony. Anybody can confirm that?Here we go. I truly do believe that this place is either going to have to "clean its act up" considerably or close its doors before the big sporting events hit town.
Csco, you misunderstood my question a little. When you say if you pick up a girl at a terms and she wants 20 reals, just give it to her. Those are known prostitutes. I am talking about girls that you have picked up working at the mall, a waitress, mcdonalds, gym. What percentage of those girls still asked for money before they left. The reason I'm asking is I was with a normal girl I picked up at the gym. She was a writer for a website. We hung out all night and went to the clubs and had sex. She still asked if she could have 30 or 40 reals before she went home. Sure it could be for cab fare or whatever. My point is, when your a gringo, it seems like normal girls assume you rich and kind with your money, and will ask for a little bit, even if they are not a GDP.
I am just curious from you, and anyone else on this site, what percentage of the girls that you picked up in normal places still asked for money or a ipod or some other form of exchange. It is a interesting poll of the board to see the real numbers. When I was in Colombia, I was told even if you go out with normal girls you might meet at a restaurant or mall, they will still ask you for money, clothes, rent, or some bartering type item. Of course, if they are real wealthy, they won't ask, but if you want a hot 21yo colombian working at the mall, she won't be rich. If you want a 35 yo bank manager with 3 kids than I guess she won't ask, but you don't want that anyway.
It seems like even if you wanted to swear off mongering in brazil and Colombia and never pay a girl for sex again, it would be IMPOSSIBLE, because the regular girls will still ask for money. The question is.would it still be cheaper than a terma? Hell yes, with the exchange rate now, for sure. Was it cheaper for Paul Mcartney? Nope. We have to weigh the cost being with prostitutes vs so called normal girls. When the rate was 3 to 1 and you could spend all night a 4x4 and sleep with 2 girls for 100 bucks, hookers were the way to go. Now, finding a normal girl that only asks for 40 reals is the way to go, if you have game. Its like hookers in america. Not worth the price. They want 400 to 500 bucks per hour on their websites. Its not cheaper to pay a hooker or get married to a regular girl in america.
"shy, broken down guys in their 60's and 70's" They aren't shy and broken down. They are just depressed and pissed they didn't find brazil 30 years earlier. They are pissed they saved their money in a 401 k for 30 years and then realized when they took it out at 60, they should have done it at 40 and spent it all when they were young. The first time I went to brazil, the FIRST thing that came to my mind after a night in my first terma was " WHY didn't I COME HERE WHEN I WAS 16!" I can't believe I wasted my sexual and physical prime on american girls. If I could go back in time, I would have saved my money in high school and went to brazil every summer. I would have had so many girls. Pros and non pros. I never would have wasted all those high school years wondering why girls went out with assholes and not me. Can you imagine going to brazil when you were 18. I had no bodyfat, a 3 pack and cardio in bed for days. It would have been incredible. Oh well, youth is wasted on the young. Anyway, I have to take my 3 meds that help keep me alive. LOL
Mr Enternational
04-01-12, 18:55
It seems like even if you wanted to swear off mongering in brazil and Colombia and never pay a girl for sex again, it would be IMPOSSIBLE, because the regular girls will still ask for money.Not impossible. As a matter of fact what you are saying is quite ridiculous, because what you are describing is not a regular girl. You have described a hooker who you at first PERCEIVED to be a regular girl. A regular girl in the two countries you mentioned or any country for that matter has never asked me for money. And I have been through a hell of a lot of regular girls. Several times I have had regular girls fly from the part of Brazil that they are in to the part I am in on their own money to spend time with me and still have not asked for a centavo. And I am not talking about rich girls or even girls who are well off. I'm talking about your average, everday, run of the mill, regular Brazilian female.
One example:
-----Original Message-----
From: Fabiana
To: Me
Sent: Tue, Dec 13, 2011 8:23 am
Subject: Meu ticket
comprei a passagem para voltar de São Paulo a Ida vou comprar mais tarde por outra companhia pois esta muito mais caro aqui na Gol.Este ticket já comprei pela internet e ja tenho o localizador.
Vou comprara ida e chegar dia 23/12/2011 as 08:00 da manhã em São Paulo
Se você mudar seus planos eu te mato pois estou gastando muito para ver você!!!
Só estou fazendo pois sabe como é especial para mim!!!! :)
Este localizador é o identificador de sua viagem.
PASSAGEM
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Csco, you misunderstood my question a little. When you say if you pick up a girl at a terms and she wants 20 reals, just give it to her. Those are known prostitutes. I am talking about girls that you have picked up working at the mall, a waitress, mcdonalds, gym. What percentage of those girls still asked for money before they left. The reason I'm asking is I was with a normal girl I picked up at the gym. She was a writer for a website. We hung out all night and went to the clubs and had sex. She still asked if she could have 30 or 40 reals before she went home. Sure it could be for cab fare or whatever. My point is, when your a gringo, it seems like normal girls assume you rich and kind with your money, and will ask for a little bit, even if they are not a GDP.
I am just curious from you, and anyone else on this site, what percentage of the girls that you picked up in normal places still asked for money or a ipod or some other form of exchange. It is a interesting poll of the board to see the real numbers. When I was in Colombia, I was told even if you go out with normal girls you might meet at a restaurant or mall, they will still ask you for money, clothes, rent, or some bartering type item. Of course, if they are real wealthy, they won't ask, but if you want a hot 21yo colombian working at the mall, she won't be rich. If you want a 35 yo bank manager with 3 kids than I guess she won't ask, but you don't want that anyway.HelpRules,
None of them have asked me for money the ones you spoke and asked about the ones I have met a the mall, gym, bus, trains, coffee shops, Bob's, and other fast food places. I know it is HARD for some mongers to believe there are females out there that you can hang with and have fun with and talk to and go on dates with and listen to music with and they aren't looking or asking you for stuff or running a meter on you. It can happen and it do happens.
A woman is a woman and most will look ahead for her future down the road when she isn't a so called (young hot thing) and most will want to be with a man and start a life (be a wife have kids) etc. Believe it or not this is a normal thing that happens around the world everyday LOL LOL
HelpRules I always speak and talk about the (TRICK mind-set) if you act and behave like a monger / trick you will be treated like one just behave and dress and carry yourself like a male with confidence that is use to being around hot chicks and dating hot chicks without paying them to be around you and you will be amazed how your attitude will change about yourself and then you will have girls / non-pros / and even hookers attitude change when dealing with you.
To keep it simple I can and have walked around Rio and other parts of the world for decades at 2am and 3am in the morning alone and I travel alone and people and kids and small groups of young gangs didn't and don't fuck with me. BUT another guy can walk around and get attack (once you change your mind-set) your body language and everything about yourself will also change. If a chick feels she can get something out of you certain ones will try to ..
There is a reason you don't see other guys from other countries always being hit up for cash and tips at the front desk at these Termas so you say (they think we are ALL rich) $$ walking around with money to blow? NO I say many feel that many Gringo's are easy marks and want to be like by other people and are fast to give up the cash to a chick with a smile or maybe they are use to being used by American gold diggers or they are use to being taking by hookers and chicks that asked for money who knows ? I don't have that problems and I see many other guys don't have that issue either.
Now, IF you don't want some 35 year old with a bunch of kids and want some young 21 year old hot looking chick. (what about you that she wants? Are you fit? have a flat belly? Workout in the gym 4-5 times a week? Make her laugh? are you fun to be with? etc.). If you can't answer yes to most of those questions BUT have a fat wallet maybe that is what she want to be around you. Most hot chicks like to show off their boyfriends to their other girlfriends or post pictures of him on their facebook pages IF they can't do that without their other girlfriends making jokes and making fun of them they are going to either not be around you. Or if they are around you they will look for money to be around you or to sleep with you.
This is the way things are.. a younger guy IF he has his money right and his body right and can talk to a chick and have some "game" should be able to pull any chick. IF a older guy is in good shape and have his head together and don't have a (trick mind-set) should also be able to pull some chicks not as many but a lot.
Most chicks I deal with know and can see or look in my eyes and know I am not for no BS. NO I am not perfect or some Don Juan but I get my fair share of non-pros. BUT I don't pay for a non-pro to be with me hell I was in Rio for almost 3 weeks I didn't have but 1 chick asked me for a drink at the Termas (I told her NO) and she can leave if she wants to she said it ONLY cost 10 reals I said if that is all it cost buy yourself a drink. LOL I told her NO I don't drink and I don't buy girls drinks to sit beside me I don't have to....just by me saying that she was interested and me and stayed beside talking to me most of the night..
And I had some chicks that wanted to sit beside me for hours and hours knowing I don't and won't buy them a drink they just enjoyed talking and laughing and hanging out with me. I seen some guys that felt they needed to buy girls drinks and pop bottles and they would have up to 4-5 girls at a time with their glass out for a drink. As soon as the drinks stop coming the girls got up and got the hell on and didn't give him a second look for the rest of the night.
The bottom line HelpRules if a chick want to be with you she isn't going to charge you to do so. And you shouldn't have to pay her to be with you either. It's that simple ALL these Termas girls with kids by local NON-working Brazilian guys that many of them support and take care of WHY you think they don't have to pay these hot 21 year old girls to be with them?
Kid Cisco
Went out early last night (7 pm) and visited the Balcony. There were 10 or 15 girls working the place and a few cute ones. Only saw one TV. It definitely got more action (including more TV) much later, say 11 pm, but all in all a good place for a early night.
Went out early last night (7 pm) and visited the Balcony. There were 10 or 15 girls working the place and a few cute ones. Only saw one TV. It definitely got more action (including more TV) much later, say 11 pm, but all in all a good place for a early night.Kendo,
Thanks for that report I just gave Balcony Bar one shot when I was there I had to asked the girl with glasses a few times for a menu and she kept saying ok ok BUT never brought one. The tall guy with dark hair I asked him one time and he brought me one and I order some Frango / chicken. And got up and left.
I am sure with the World Cup and the games coming there someone will offer and make a offer to the owner that he can't past up and the Balcony Bar will be done. As for as the TV's that is one of the things that turned me off to the point I had to get my food to go and I ate it at my hotel.
I am sure by the time the rest of the world comes to Rio they will have plans for the Balcony Bar with more and more TV's running around. I am sure that is something they will want to put a end to.
Kid Cisco
I agree you should never buy drinks for these girls or you will be human pitcher for them. Never give them money to get into help (back in the day). There is one exception. We should buy one drink for a girl we know we are going upstairs with. If your making out with a girl, and grabbing all over, having good convo for 30 minutes, and you don't buy her at least a cola, yo are just a cheap ass. Thats how I feel. I see it with some guys and it makes me sick. Thats why alot of guys complain about the sessions. Its hard to interview a girl and click with a hot one, if your cheap ass won't spend anything. I remember when 4x4 had the big smoke free restaurant upstairs before they turned it into rooms. I was with a girl I had a great session with the night before. I was going to go with her again, but told her I wanted to eat something upstairs and asked if she wanted to come. So we split a pizza and I bought her a oj. We hung out for about 40 minutes eating and grabbing ass and then off we went. Anyway, I was talking to this european guy who was shocked that I bought this girl a drink and shared a pizza. He told me don't buy these girls drinks and food. They aren't your girlfriend. I called him a cheap ass and explained I am not going to eat a pizza by myself and let the girl stare at me with no food or drink, so I can prove some kind of point that I will spend nothing on hookers other than sex. It's dumb. Life isn't about who can die with the most 3 dollar drinks saved. Some of you guys take these rules too far. Maybe thats why I have good sessions with girls 99. 9% of the time. Bottom line, if I am with a girl that I am having fun with, and I am clicking with, I will always buy her a drink if I am going upstairs with her. Patron? NO. Cranberry juice? Sure.
One other problem with being a gringo- we have a reputation about coming to brazil to screw gdp's. Girls at Nuth and other nice clubs know this, and are afraid to be with us because they don't want brazilians thinking they are hookers. My portuguese isn't great, so when I am with a regular girl, its not as easy to make them laugh and have free flowing game.
Mr Enternational
04-01-12, 23:26
HelpRules I always speak and talk about the (TRICK mind-set) if you act and behave like a monger / trick you will be treated like one just behave and dress and carry yourself like a male with confidence that is use to being around hot chicks and dating hot chicks without paying them to be around you and you will be amazed how your attitude will change about yourself and then you will have girls / non-pros / and even hookers attitude change when dealing with you.
There is a reason you don't see other guys from other countries always being hit up for cash and tips at the front desk at these Termas so you say (they think we are ALL rich) $$ walking around with money to blow? NO I say many feel that many Gringo's are easy marks and want to be like by other people and are fast to give up the cash to a chick with a smile or maybe they are use to being used by American gold diggers or they are use to being taking by hookers and chicks that asked for money who knows? I don't have that problems and I see many other guys don't have that issue either.
Most chicks I deal with know and can see or look in my eyes and know I am not for no BS. NO I am not perfect or some Don Juan but I get my fair share of non-pros. BUT I don't pay for a non-pro to be with me hell I was in Rio for almost 3 weeks I didn't have but 1 chick asked me for a drink at the Termas (I told her NO) and she can leave if she wants to she said it ONLY cost 10 reals I said if that is all it cost buy yourself a drink. LOL I told her NO I don't drink and I don't buy girls drinks to sit beside me I don't have to. Just by me saying that she was interested and me and stayed beside talking to me most of the night.
And I had some chicks that wanted to sit beside me for hours and hours knowing I don't and won't buy them a drink they just enjoyed talking and laughing and hanging out with me. I seen some guys that felt they needed to buy girls drinks and pop bottles and they would have up to 4-5 girls at a time with their glass out for a drink. As soon as the drinks stop coming the girls got up and got the hell on and didn't give him a second look for the rest of the night.Preach on Kid Cisco. This is some of the best shit that I have ever seen you say. When a chick busts out the,"it only costs..." I like to say,"Well bi*ch you buy me one since it is ONLY..." And they like you and want to be around you because you are not a pushover like all the other guys they come into contact with who don't know how to do anything but pass out money.
Kid, I call bs on your "they like to spend hours and hours with me all night and they know I won't buy them a drink or take them upstairs". These terma girls need to make money. Why the hell would they spend hourssss with you if they can talk to someone else and see if they want sex. What you're saying is retarded. Unless there are no other guys in the place, it's bs. They don't go to work to sit next to some stiff for 5 hours."ohh you're so handsome and your dick is so big. It's a shame you won't spend money. That's ok, I will let you rub on me for 5 hours for free and no cola to boot" I call bullshit.
Kid, is this you picking up on regular girls. You do have good game. Thanks for posting on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADA56ZnI7_Q&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL1A75BFBEA3A755BD
A guy appeared had some sort of medical emergency tonight. His friend and a few patrons performed CPR but stopped after 20 or 30 minutes. The police just watched the bystanders try to help the guy.
They put a couple of table cloths over him and the waiters were stepping over him like nothing unusual. No ambulance ever showed. I left after about 4 hours and his body was still there. A lot of people didn't even know there was a body there.
A guy appeared had some sort of medical emergency tonight. His friend and a few patrons performed CPR but stopped after 20 or 30 minutes. The police just watched the bystanders try to help the guy.
They put a couple of table cloths over him and the waiters were stepping over him like nothing unusual. No ambulance ever showed. I left after about 4 hours and his body was still there. A lot of people didn't even know there was a body there.WOW,
That is so sad. Before I take a trip overseas a month before the trip I make sure I go to the VA and my other Doctors and get a work up of lab tests done and get into GREAT shape 7-8 months early because since I travel alone I only have myself to count on. Because I have seen police stand by and watch clowns get mugged and beat senseless without doing a thing.
This is another reason why sooner or later that Balcony Bar will be closed down I wonder did this poor soul had a drink or anything? That was going to knock him out? But ended up killing him?
There have been many other guys that have been drugged by hookers at the Balcony Bar and you can't put anything past anyone else that could have something to do with it. In South Beach these hot looking girls was going around drugging guys stealing their wallets and hotel room keys etc. And the waiter and bar back was part of the "gang" that was taking part in these girls robbing crew.
Just be careful guys when you order drinks at the Balcony Bar that is all I can say they have arrested many hookers for drugging tricks at the place. I for one won't ever be going back to the place.
Kid Cisco
A guy appeared had some sort of medical emergency tonight. His friend and a few patrons performed CPR but stopped after 20 or 30 minutes. The police just watched the bystanders try to help the guy.
They put a couple of table cloths over him and the waiters were stepping over him like nothing unusual. No ambulance ever showed. I left after about 4 hours and his body was still there. A lot of people didn't even know there was a body there.Weird that an ambulance didn't show up. Copa D'or isn't far away.
Poor guy, ending his life in a shithole like Balcony.
Weird that an ambulance didn't show up. Copa D'or isn't far away.
Poor guy, ending his life in a shithole like Balcony.This is why you need to be extra careful in Brazil, there are plenty of ways to have an accident or cause a medical emergency and if you do get into trouble the chances of medical care getting to you quickly, is significantly lower than that of the west. For example:.
The number 1 way of dying in Brazil is by car accident. The roads are terrible, the cars have no airbags, side impact bars or even ABS and they drive to a very poor standard. Then if you do survive a crash in these crappy little cars the chance of an ambulance getting to you quickly is low and then if they do get to you when you are still alive the standard of medical care is also lower. Net result, you are 5 times more likely to die on a road in Brazil per Km traveled compared to the US or 10 times more likely to die per KM traveled than in Germany or most Euro countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate
In Brazil I don't worry about getting killed by robbery, I worry about dying from just a normal accident.
in brazil i don't worry about getting killed by robbery, i worry about dying from just a normal accident.i agree. the traffic is my only real fear in brazil. i've seen so many accidents.
if you feel suicidal you should cross the avenida at praça das bandeiras. lots of lanes and the car goes at top speed.
there is a place where i wish i saw more accidents. at central, on the other side of av presidente vargas. there are always a bunch of scumbags who rob people getting of the buses. they snatch a bag, neckless or mobile phone and then they cross the avenida running quickly. it's a a miracle that they don't get hit by a bus. 15 minutes later they are back waiting for a new victim.
regarding medical care. what impressed me are the small free public clinics that they have in botafogo and some other places in rio. i think they are run by the bombeiros in some way. i followed friends there a couple of times. well-organized, clean, attend quickly and very professional doctors.
The guy who passed away at Balcony last night was one of the nicest persons I know.
He did not drink. Always was hanging with an agua com gas (so no chance at all.
Of any foul play) and watching the bundas walk by. He was with some of his best friends.
When he passed away.
He was diagnosed with a heart problem about half a year ago and was on a waiting.
List to get a heart operation. Unfortunately it looks like his heart suddenly gave out
Before that planned event.
He loved to find that cute and pretty spinner, among the many average garotas at.
Balcony. He knew what he was doing. He loved Balcony (and Terraco Atlantico and Help before)
And was in a place he enjoyed when he passed away.
I and my / his friends will miss this kind and gentle guy tremendously.
He loved Balcony (and Terraco Atlantico and Help before)
And was in a place he enjoyed when he passed away.Poor guy, even though he loved Balcony.
(On your description it almost sound like the Professor.)
I do believe Mr. Drug has been doing' A BUNCH of his name sake. I hope he caught his plane.
Mr. Kid cisco. This site is for fellas who are tryin to getting to get laid. Why don't you take your tall 6 and half tall feet personality your your ass and disappear. After all if your so freken handsome why can't you get a gif and leave us alone. I', m makin tremendous amount of money. If your 6 5' why the heck you dyin to hook up with the hoe. Unless you look mad ugly. If your 6 5' you suppose to charge chick to fuk you man. Xcuse me because I gota catch a flight to London in the next 3 hrs. See I Aint dumbo like you kid cinco. Because I'm a self made 3 million dolla man unlike you plus I gota plane to catch in the next 2 hrs. Believe me even thought I'm a multi millionaire I still consider you little smart. You can goto hell since you have zero knowledge about finance or economic pt 2. Go to hell kid cisko. No1 luv you and you can goto hell my friend. Because I got plans to do sumthin Big.Jackson, please put this guy in quarantine.
Jackson, please put this guy in quarantine.I second that, he is a complete pest.
Weird that an ambulance didn't show up. Copa D'or isn't far away.
Poor guy, ending his life in a shithole like Balcony.Thought it was kinda' odd too, when I got there there was a van from a funeral home and two guys had loaded the corpse in a coffin and were carrying him out. That was at about 12:50AM Sunday nite / Monday morning. Like I said, I actually thought it was some sick promo from Dolce Vita. The rumour going around was that the gentleman OD'ed on Viagra. Other accounts are disclaiming this.
Also wondered about the possibility of an attempted drugging go bad. Was having a conversation with a girl I met a few years back, ordered a choppe, touched the glass with my bottom lip, my lip went numb. Thought that was weird, figured it was from what they were washing the glasses with in back. The chick complained to the garconete, the short dark one with the phat ass, cute face, and little titties. She brought me another choppe.
I don't know if it was the beer, but some of garconetes At Balcony look more fuckable than the GDP's!
Ipanema Carioca
04-03-12, 19:56
Jackson, please put this guy in quarantine.
Originally Posted by ChrisDrug [View Original Post]
Mr. Kid cisco. This site is for fellas who are tryin to getting to get laid. Why don't you take your tall 6 and half tall feet personality your your ass and disappear. After all if your so freken handsome why can't you get a gif and leave us alone. I', m makin tremendous amount of money. If your 6 5' why the heck you dyin to hook up with the hoe. Unless you look mad ugly. If your 6 5' you suppose to charge chick to fuk you man. Xcuse me because I gota catch a flight to London in the next 3 hrs. See I Aint dumbo like you kid cinco. Because I'm a self made 3 million dolla man unlike you plus I gota plane to catch in the next 2 hrs. Believe me even thought I'm a multi millionaire I still consider you little smart. You can goto hell since you have zero knowledge about finance or economic pt 2. Go to hell kid cisko. No1 luv you and you can goto hell my friend. Because I got plans to do sumthin Big.Ditto! This guy ChrisDrug is trying to instigate!
Poucolouco
04-03-12, 20:20
I second that, he is a complete pest.Looks to me like Maylay Sparks has returned.
Team Stream
04-04-12, 01:14
Sorry for interrupting the dating-lessons.
I heard a rumour that David is planning to close Balcony. Anybody can confirm that?I talked to Balcony management and found that there no truth to that. David is always looking for a buyer with the right price, which he hasn't found.
There is no plan to "close" Balcony, nor get rid of the hookers. There is always pressure from city hall and from the building management to "clean up" but David and the management are always pushing back and paying whatever bribes / fines necessary to maintain the status quo.
PussyLiccker
04-04-12, 01:49
Question for all you experienced mongering in Brazil. Let me give you a bit of my background. Germany is the only country I have experience mongering. So, German FKK clubs girls are the standard I'm comparing girls to. I am mainly interested in Caucasian (blond or brunet and blue or green eyes) girls. I think Scandinavian and dutch girls are the hottest.
So, I was wondering if I can find beautiful Caucasian girls in Brazil. For those that have experienced German FKK clubs, how are the quality of Caucasian girls compared to German FKK club girls? I've checked out the Brazilian escort sites and the girls on there gave me hard-ons. I have seen too man skinny girls at German FKK clubs, and I'm into girls with more figure (big ass and hips) , which from what I see from the pictures, Caucasian girls from Brazil have. Are there abundance of Caucasian girls there? Also, is there clubs like German FKK clubs there? If so, can I get a decent fuck sessions around E50 per half hour like in Germany?
Also, I am Asian-American, what are my chances of getting laid with non-pros? Do I need a lot of game like in the States, or is it easy to get numbers and fuck there?
Ipanema Carioca
04-04-12, 02:37
Is it wrong or ok to post the memorial website, picture and name of the monger who died at Balcony?
I talked to Balcony management and found that there no truth to that. David is always looking for a buyer with the right price, which he hasn't found.
There is no plan to "close" Balcony, nor get rid of the hookers. There is always pressure from city hall and from the building management to "clean up" but David and the management are always pushing back and paying whatever bribes / fines necessary to maintain the status quo.
Thank you, TS. I wonder what will be the price for Balcony?
If the Prefeitura wants to clean up the city even more they could buy Balcony and open another museum (Museu Histórico de Putaria e Safadeza).
I heard that Balcony got to pay very large fines several times because of the loud volume of the music. Well, those beer prices should cover any fines.
Question for all you experienced mongering in Brazil. Let me give you a bit of my background. Germany is the only country I have experience mongering. So, German FKK clubs girls are the standard I'm comparing girls to. I am mainly interested in Caucasian (blond or brunet and blue or green eyes) girls. I think Scandinavian and dutch girls are the hottest.
So, I was wondering if I can find beautiful Caucasian girls in Brazil. For those that have experienced German FKK clubs, how are the quality of Caucasian girls compared to German FKK club girls? I've checked out the Brazilian escort sites and the girls on there gave me hard-ons. I have seen too man skinny girls at German FKK clubs, and I'm into girls with more figure (big ass and hips) , which from what I see from the pictures, Caucasian girls from Brazil have. Are there abundance of Caucasian girls there? Also, is there clubs like German FKK clubs there? If so, can I get a decent fuck sessions around E50 per half hour like in Germany?
Also, I am Asian-American, what are my chances of getting laid with non-pros? Do I need a lot of game like in the States, or is it easy to get numbers and fuck there?Pussylickers, here in Rio you get Termae, it s very similar to German FKK, but price is higher (200 reals which is around 90 euros for 40 minutes in Termae versus 50 euros for 30 minutes in FKK). Check Bubba report for Termae address. There are many blond white girls in Termae but in general they are FAKE BLOND. But why come to Brazil to fuck blond white girls? Try a muleta or morena, nobody known to fuck like those Brazilian girls. And if you like anal sex, Rio is the right place.
You want blond white girls, better to go Porto Alegre in southern Brazil and to Argentina and Paraguay (Asuncion is my preferred place to date non-pros).
As you I'm East-Asian guy, I get one time a white non-pro in Fortaleza and many times muletas and black non-pros in norther city of Brazil. But you have to speak little Portuguese and time and money.
I am mainly interested in Caucasian (blond or brunet and blue or green eyes) girls. I think Scandinavian and dutch girls are the hottest.I wish you good luck in finding caucasian GP's with blue or green eyes in Brazil. Even in the south it will be hard.
Ipanema Carioca
04-04-12, 18:15
Is it wrong or ok to post the memorial website, picture and name of the monger who died at Balcony?No response from anyone means no? Ok!
No response from anyone means no? Ok!I would be curious to know who it is.
Also, I am Asian-American, what are my chances of getting laid with non-pros? Do I need a lot of game like in the States, or is it easy to get numbers and fuck there?In Brazil they consider Asian as "Blanco" and color is not important if you have money. Most important, learn dancing samba and forro, then you may have a chance to date non-pros
Ipanema Carioca
04-04-12, 20:25
I would be curious to know who it is.All I need is one brave one to say yes! I met this gentleman a few times. There's a small network of American expats of all ethnic groups, mainly black and white, who associate with each other in Rio. I met Richard thru associates. Some of you may know him too.
http://animoto.com/play/eoO00gQszoQjk21T4acu4g
HungryStud101
04-04-12, 23:21
I just want to give everyone a heads up. I used my CC Card to pay the entrance fee for two of my brazilian friends. My friends did not session. I later signed a reciept for 180 R and I paid my personal bill with cash. L'uomo charged my card 300R. Please note* They do not charge it as L'uomo but they call themselves some other name. You can google the name and Google maps gives the same address as where L'uomo is located. They do this to protect the hobbyist who is attached.
Anyway they over charged me by 120R and this is bullshit. I am very disappointed in this establishment.
I will say that I love the girls there and i am not calling for a boycott. Just don't give them your damn credit card. I will find another Termas next visit.
All I need is one brave one to say yes! I met this gentleman a few times. There's a small network of American expats of all ethnic groups, mainly black and white, who associate with each other in Rio. I met Richard thru associates. Some of you may know him too.
http://animoto.com/play/eoO00gQszoQjk21T4acu4gThanks, young guy, what a shame, He looks younger then the Professor. He looks familiar, I might have seen him around. Thanks for posting.
Ipanema Carioca
04-04-12, 23:38
I just want to give everyone a heads up. I used my CC Card to pay the entrance fee for two of my brazilian friends. My friends did not session. I later signed a reciept for 180 R and I paid my personal bill with cash. L'uomo charged my card 300R. Please note* They do not charge it as L'uomo but they call themselves some other name. You can google the name and Google maps gives the same address as where L'uomo is located. They do this to protect the hobbyist who is attached.
Anyway they over charged me by 120R and this is bullshit. I am very disappointed in this establishment.In April 2011 I had the same problem with Club 22. But I used my American Express for my drink, session and entry fee. They overcharged me. Ok, I call Amex, and Club 22 never responded and I got everything free. Lesson for me, either use all cash at the end or use Amex for everything. The former will be cut and dry and the latter will get you a full refund. Too bad, because that 20 year mulatta was some great pussy. They didn't get paid and neither did she for being greedy.
Ipanema Carioca
04-04-12, 23:39
Thanks, young guy, what a shame, He looks younger then the Professor. He looks familiar, I might have seen him around. Thanks for posting.You're welcome Sangue. He actually looked older in person.
Thank you Ipanama Carioca for posting the short film about Richard.
That was very touching. He did look somewhat older during the last half year, after his bad heart was acting up.
Before that he used to swim every day from the beach in front of Othon Palace, through pretty high waves, currents, undertow etc. To the rocky point to the right.
I think it is called Arpoador Point (or something similar).
I just want to give everyone a heads up. I used my CC Card to pay the entrance fee for two of my brazilian friends. My friends did not session. I later signed a reciept for 180 R and I paid my personal bill with cash. L'uomo charged my card 300R. Please note* They do not charge it as L'uomo but they call themselves some other name. You can google the name and Google maps gives the same address as where L'uomo is located. They do this to protect the hobbyist who is attached.
Anyway they over charged me by 120R and this is bullshit. I am very disappointed in this establishment.
I will say that I love the girls there and I am not calling for a boycott. Just don't give them your damn credit card. I will find another Termas next visit.Just call your CC company and you will get a refund. The problem is usually not with the establishment, it is usually with employees scamming a few bucks. Establishments have certain limits of fraud that they must remain within, if they have too many frauds they lose their CC facility, very few business that have been in business as long as Luomo would do this.
HungryStud101
04-05-12, 00:53
In April 2011 I had the same problem with Club 22. But I used my American Express for my drink, session and entry fee. They overcharged me. Ok, I call Amex, and Club 22 never responded and I got everything free. Lesson for me, either use all cash at the end or use Amex for everything. The former will be cut and dry and the latter will get you a full refund. Too bad, because that 20 year mulatta was some great pussy. They didn't get paid and neither did she for being greedy.I have done this as well. Someone is supposed to follow up with me but so far it is still on my balence. Cash only for now on.
Exec Talent
04-05-12, 00:57
All I need is one brave one to say yes! I met this gentleman a few times. There's a small network of American expats of all ethnic groups, mainly black and white, who associate with each other in Rio. I met Richard thru associates. Some of you may know him too.
http://animoto.com/play/eoO00gQszoQjk21T4acu4gThanks for posting the link.
Ipanema Carioca
04-05-12, 01:34
I have done this as well. Someone is supposed to follow up with me but so far it is still on my balence. Cash only for now on.I agree with Bubba. A place like Luomo or a tier 1 terma is not trying to be petty, plus it could be an honest mistake. The terma help are not that smart, especially when it gets busy.
Azn Safado
04-05-12, 02:07
I went to Duda Massagens on Rio Branco 156 sala 3320 on Friday. I got there around 3 pm. Saw a lineup of about 6 girls. I chose Priscilla, a pretty attractive and slim girl. After choosing her and seeing her in the room, I realized that I had sessioned with her a couple of times at Monte Carlo in 2008. Ha. She worked at Solarium before Monte Carlo. She went by the name of Drika back then. She then quit Monte Carlo and worked at BelPrazer. After that, she started freelancing at RioSexSite. Then she worked at Centaurus for 2 months. Now she's at Duda Massagens. Talk about a journeyman, or rather journeywoman!
The rooms at Duda are quite nice. I got a big room with a shower inside it. The service from Priscilla was ok, not as good as it was when she was at Monte Carlo. She must be an extremely jaded GDP. I asked her why she stopped working at the termas. She said she liked working there a lot, but there are just no more customers that do programs! She said the termas raising the prices is killing the girls as far as getting sessions from customers. I asked her how many programs did she get per week at Centaurus. She said on average it was around 2. If business is that bad for terma girls, it seems terma girls may be ripe for the pickings to get them to come over to the apartment, if that's your thing. I also asked her how many programs did she do this day at Duda, and she said so far I was her 5th. That means she's gettin' bizzy practically every single hour there! I guess working at Centaurus is like trying to sell a car at a Lamborghini store. Super low volume, high markup. Whereas Duda Massagens and Bel Prazer are like Hyundai. High volume, low markup. Price at Duda Massagens was R$105 for 40 minutes and R$125 for 1 hour. I chose the 40 minute option.
I also went to 4x4 today. Saw a lot of new girls today, which was nice for a change. Prices are the same as reported a few weeks ago. R$270 for 40 minutes and R$290 for 60 minutes, unless you get the R$50 entrance fee waived. Then it's R$220 and R$240 for the 40 minute and 60 minute session, respectively. Funny thing is, today they allowed the R$50 to be waived as long as you took a girl up to the room before 6 pm. Normally, you have to take a girl before 5 pm. I got there a little after 5 pm and asked them if I was too late for the entrance waiver. One receptionist said "yes, must be before 5 pm". Then another one said "you can get it waived if you take a girl before 6 pm". Then at 5:55 pm, before I chose my girl, I double-checked with the front desk and they said "yes, entrance waived before 6 pm". I wonder if this was some exception to the rule because I arrived shortly after 5 pm, or if it is a permanent change. If it's permanent, I guess that's not a bad trade off with the R$20 recent price increase. Anyway, I got out of there at 7 pm with the damage being R$220 plus one beer.
My friends,
I don't know if it is against any ISG rule so if I'm doing' something wrong please delete this post. I was checking some brazilian boards and came across this new forum. A local dude also told me about this.
http://forumx.com.br/
It's from Rio de Janeiro and seems to me a good option to use and eventually take part besides gpguia, hf among others.
Cheers,
Trelele
I went to Duda Massagens on Rio Branco 156 sala 3320 on Friday. I got there around 3 pm. Saw a lineup of about 6 girls. I chose Priscilla, a pretty attractive and slim girl. After choosing her and seeing her in the room, I realized that I had sessioned with her a couple of times at Monte Carlo in 2008. Ha. She worked at Solarium before Monte Carlo. She went by the name of Drika back then. She then quit Monte Carlo and worked at BelPrazer. After that, she started freelancing at RioSexSite. Then she worked at Centaurus for 2 months. Now she's at Duda Massagens. Talk about a journeyman, or rather journeywoman!
The rooms at Duda are quite nice. I got a big room with a shower inside it. The service from Priscilla was ok, not as good as it was when she was at Monte Carlo. She must be an extremely jaded GDP. I asked her why she stopped working at the termas. She said she liked working there a lot, but there are just no more customers that do programs! She said the termas raising the prices is killing the girls as far as getting sessions from customers. I asked her how many programs did she get per week at Centaurus. She said on average it was around 2. If business is that bad for terma girls, it seems terma girls may be ripe for the pickings to get them to come over to the apartment, if that's your thing. I also asked her how many programs did she do this day at Duda, and she said so far I was her 5th. That means she's gettin' bizzy practically every single hour there! I guess working at Centaurus is like trying to sell a car at a Lamborghini store. Super low volume, high markup. Whereas Duda Massagens and Bel Prazer are like Hyundai. High volume, low markup. Price at Duda Massagens was R$105 for 40 minutes and R$125 for 1 hour. I chose the 40 minute option.
I also went to 4x4 today. Saw a lot of new girls today, which was nice for a change. Prices are the same as reported a few weeks ago. R$270 for 40 minutes and R$290 for 60 minutes, unless you get the R$50 entrance fee waived. Then it's R$220 and R$240 for the 40 minute and 60 minute session, respectively. Funny thing is, today they allowed the R$50 to be waived as long as you took a girl up to the room before 6 pm. Normally, you have to take a girl before 5 pm. I got there a little after 5 pm and asked them if I was too late for the entrance waiver. One receptionist said "yes, must be before 5 pm". Then another one said "you can get it waived if you take a girl before 6 pm". Then at 5:55 pm, before I chose my girl, I double-checked with the front desk and they said "yes, entrance waived before 6 pm". I wonder if this was some exception to the rule because I arrived shortly after 5 pm, or if it is a permanent change. If it's permanent, I guess that's not a bad trade off with the R$20 recent price increase. Anyway, I got out of there at 7 pm with the damage being R$220 plus one beer.Maybe the reason Drika's service was just average is because she is doing 5 guys a day. Try to get there earlier.
All I need is one brave one to say yes! I met this gentleman a few times. There's a small network of American expats of all ethnic groups, mainly black and white, who associate with each other in Rio. I met Richard thru associates. Some of you may know him too.
http://animoto.com/play/eoO00gQszoQjk21T4acu4gIpanema Carioca,
I be damnn I wouldn't say I was brave or anything BUT I sit at the table with him on 3-25-12! At the Balcony Bar I made a post on here 3-26-12 post number # 8667 that I got there around 12:00am and order some food I was sitting at his table...( when I saw him he had a deep dark tan with that same smile on his face ) .. I NEVER seen him before that night I asked him could I sit down and that I was just going to order for Frango and leave and he said no problem go ahead. He was sitting with a chick he seem really cool and easy going and friendly . I didn't talk or say anything else to him or her I was happy just to have somewhere to sit down.
Wow, it is such a small world and you never know who will cross your path the funny thing was one cute girl ( there were ONLY 2 cute ones I saw that night I thought was cute ) but one cute one walked past the table to the restroom and was looking good and me and him both check her out and we looked at each other and smile at each other (a lot of the girls knew his girl because they would stop and speak to her).
Wow I kind of feel bad I didn't say anything else to him BUT when I asked could I sit down I didn't want to ruin his date and his time together. At least now I know his name was Richard R. I. P.
Kid Cisco
Eric Cartman
04-05-12, 03:34
Finally made it back to MC this week after about 3 weeks of basically doing nothing.
Some lineup changes. Probably counted 5-7 new girls, including one black hottie and 2-3 smaller, thicker girls (not my thing).
Needed a good servicing and didn't want to take chances, so went again with Yasmine, who is awesome. I got royal treatment. She demanded I pound her cuzinho doggy, and when I gave her a little reach around she started mashing her hand on top of mine to rub her clit. Good girl. She's always great to me even when I butterfly with other girls. (My other fav has departed again, but I have her Facebook so contact may be maintained haha).
Price was again R$375 including my "loyalty program" discount where they waive the entrance. That includes my R$5, 00 agua com gas. Yasmine talked to me for like 30 mins and never once asked for anything, though she certainly deserved it.
All in all, a great experience. Sure it could have been as good some place cheaper, but for what it was, it was a Class A termas experience.
-Cartman
Also, I am Asian-American, what are my chances of getting laid with non-pros? Do I need a lot of game like in the States, or is it easy to get numbers and fuck there?In my experience with non-pros, they are racist against Asians with some stereotypes that I have heard from many girls. No I am not Asian.
Actually I tell NPs the stereotypes are not true, because I do not care who else they are doing, as long as I am one.
I think, maybe many people there are uninformed due to lack of travel experience, and you need to work game, in advance, on the net. For a guy without blond hair or blue eyes, like me, game means having fofo Porto or appearing rich.
Finally made it back to MC this week after about 3 weeks of basically doing nothing.
Some lineup changes. Probably counted 5-7 new girls, including one black hottie and 2-3 smaller, thicker girls (not my thing).
Needed a good servicing and didn't want to take chances, so went again with Yasmine, who is awesome. I got royal treatment. She demanded I pound her cuzinho doggy...Thank Eric Cartman, I try Yasmine, she is a true anal queen.
Can you recommend another anal queen in Monte Carlo?
Question for all you experienced mongering in Brazil. Let me give you a bit of my background. Germany is the only country I have experience mongering. So, German FKK clubs girls are the standard I'm comparing girls to. I am mainly interested in Caucasian (blond or brunet and blue or green eyes) girls. I think Scandinavian and dutch girls are the hottest.
So, I was wondering if I can find beautiful Caucasian girls in Brazil. For those that have experienced German FKK clubs, how are the quality of Caucasian girls compared to German FKK club girls? I've checked out the Brazilian escort sites and the girls on there gave me hard-ons. I have seen too man skinny girls at German FKK clubs, and I'm into girls with more figure (big ass and hips) , which from what I see from the pictures, Caucasian girls from Brazil have. Are there abundance of Caucasian girls there? Also, is there clubs like German FKK clubs there? If so, can I get a decent fuck sessions around E50 per half hour like in Germany?
Also, I am Asian-American, what are my chances of getting laid with non-pros? Do I need a lot of game like in the States, or is it easy to get numbers and fuck there?PussyLiccker,
I will try to keep this as honest as I can. The type of girls you said you like and are into are just the types that MOST Brazilian girls aren't that is (blond hair with blue / green eyes). Many girls you will find have brown to black skin and many white skin girls due to their economic levels isn't in the play for pay game. And many come from families that have money and would rather have them marry or date guys that have the same background and skin color as they do. (I won't spend time getting into the background or history of Brazil) BUT since you are from the states you should know what I mean. Let's keep it real how many white girls do you see dating or getting married to Asian guys? Or how many Asian guys you see picking up a hot Blondes in Vegas or LA or South Beach? (I mention these places a lot because this is were I go a lot to party and do the work that I do ).
BUT, do it happens yes (Asian guys picking up hot blondes) YES! But not to much from the girls I have met and known over the years they have told me they are turned off by many Asian guys because many of them grab or try to force a kiss from them or come off desperate when dealing with them. And many girls get afraid by those actions I seen a few girls in the Termas almost run or have to leave the boite because from being almost chase down by some Asian guys. I HATE stereotype so I hate to feed into them by posting what I am posting BUT this is what I have heard or seen from the girls I have known over the years. Many brown / dark skin girls feel WHY waste their time talking or making a move to a Asian guy when in the end he will choose to be with a BLONDE or white skin female. I think we all want what we isn't use to back home. BUT here is the crazy part these same girls I seen and heard complain about Asian guys I have watch them kiss on and grab on other guys dicks? So WTF?
I have seen white skin girls and blondes walk over to black American guys or Africans guys in the Termas just knowing that he is going to want to pick her and want her NO matter what! Some feel they don't have to work as hard or even be nice because the black guys will want them no matter what. BUT if a black guy or African guy is use to dating or being with white girls or blondes or any type of female back in the states or his home country he isn't going to be impress or chasing blondes or white girls around the club. Or Terma and this may just turn some of these white girls and blondes on to you by you not acting like you never been around one before in your life.
So, I would say PussyLiccker just walk around with confidence and try to have and keep a open mind when it comes to being with a Brazilian female NO matter what skin color she may have. And you may end up being shock by what you may find.
As far as the Termas goes many Terma girls shy away from Asian guys like I have said BUT I have seen girls from Centaurus Termas go after Asian guys hard. Because many have said they are easy to session with and they will buy drinks and spend money for larger rooms very easy compared to other guys.... I even seen a few times were some of Centaurus girls would go to the locker room and almost DEMAND tips from Asian guys I saw two girls get a few 50 reals from a Asian guy that was trying to get dress.. I wanted to tell him to tell them to fuck off but it wasn't my business so I stayed out of it ...
A lot of this I would blame on the media the media love to show stereotypes how many times have you seen some shy Asian guy with huge glasses on acting like a smart Nerd in the movies or on TV? Or acting awkward when dealing with females of any skin color? And you have black guys dealing with issues from a different stand point SOME girls think that all black males have huge monster size dicks or they are rough or they man handle females in the room or they are bling out making it rain in the clubs or wear bagging jeans you have many that watch and see these rap and hip hop music video's so there are stereotypes from all angles.
There isn't anything you can do about a person views of you BEFORE they meet you. You only have control over AFTER they meet you just be yourself and the girls will see you are a cool guy don't worry so much about having so called " game" there isn't a course you can take or some goofy pick up line you can say or some book you can read if you pay someone for those things you will be getting your money rip-off just be the best you that you can be work-out, eat well, and dress well and have confidence and you should be alright... I hope I answer your question BUT yes you can find some nice looking white skin females in Brazil maybe not in the numbers you would find in places in Germany ... and IF you must have and want to session and meet more blondes or white skin girls just go to Europe if you don't have luck in Rio.. BUT I have found all different types of females of all skin colors that I found to be really hot...from very dark skin to white skin...
Good luck,
Kid Cisco
Also, I am Asian-American, what are my chances of getting laid with non-pros? Do I need a lot of game like in the States, or is it easy to get numbers and fuck there?If you have game in the US then you will do fine in Brazil. If you have crap game in the US then you will also do poorly in Brazil with non pros. Pros on the other hand, it doesn't really matter what game you have they will make you feel special, just don't fall under the illusion that because the hooks are treating you so well that you actually have game!
In Brazil there will be a public Holiday tomorrow, so centro should be jumping tonight. I shall be there, maybe 4x4 or maybe the darkside, mais com certeza, eu vou!
PussyLiccker,
I will try to keep this as honest as I can. The type of girls you said you like and are into are just the types that MOST Brazilian girls aren't that is (blond hair with blue / green eyes). Many girls you will find have brown to black skin and many white skin girls due to their economic levels isn't in the play for pay game. And many come from families that have money and would rather have them marry or date guys that have the same background and skin color as they do. (I won't spend time getting into the background or history of Brazil) BUT since you are from the states...Thank for your honest comment Kid Cisco.
But stereotype are sometime true with some Asian guys very shy and uncomfortable with white girls. This is my point of view and I'm French-Asian.
As far as the Termas goes many Terma girls shy away from Asian guys like I have said BUT I have seen girls from Centaurus Termas go after Asian guys hard. Because many have said they are easy to session with and they will buy drinks and spend money for larger rooms very easy compared to other guys. I even seen a few times were some of Centaurus girls would go to the locker room and almost DEMAND tips from Asian guys I saw two girls get a few 50 reals from a Asian guy that was trying to get dress. I wanted to tell him to tell them to fuck off but it wasn't my business so I stayed out of it.
Kid CiscoCentaurus is the one place in Rio where I have consistently seen a lot of Asian clients. And whatever the reason, they don't appear to have any problems gaining the "affections" of some of the prettiest ladies in the house either. Help was another place where I saw Asians do well when it was still open (although I suspect that many were grossly overpaying because I know spoke to some of the same chicks I would see them leaving with and walked away laughing after hearing their ridiculous pricing schemes). But, I don't see the Asian guys going with only the blondes either though! Seems to me that a number of those Asian dudes like to sample the dark meat on the table too. But look, like everybody else our Asian brothers need to be branching out around town. I've had blondes at just about every place I've every been to in Rio (including some natural ones). And based on your last trip Kid, seems like Solarium has a lot of blondes on duty at the moment. Maybe the hottest blonde of them all that I have met in Rio was an outstanding provider I discovered at 502, and for a fraction of the price you're going to pay at Centaurus. Now, you don't want them to turn the lights up at Termas 502 LOL, but that blonde Brazilian bunda in there was some of the best I've ever had in Brazil. So branch out Asian brothers. Don't just go to Centaurus and pay those stupid high prices. Branch out and prosper!
In Brazil there will be a public Holiday tomorrow, so centro should be jumping tonight. I shall be there, maybe 4x4 or maybe the darkside, mais com certeza, eu vou!I was in MV30 last night. It was heaving with guys, maybe 4-5 times as many guys as girls. I've never seen it so busy. I had to wait to get my hands on Renata. But it was worth the wait.
PatmarBeleza1
04-06-12, 23:09
502, mv30?
In Brazil there will be a publicn Holiday tomorrow, so centro should be jumping tonight. I shall be there, maybe 4x4 or maybe the darkside, mais com certeza, eu vou!
502, mv30?The area around MV 30, named because late at night there is very little in the way of street lights and the homeless are everywhere, pissing and crapping where they sleep. I find T31 and MV30 worth a look, especially T31 as it is only R$10 entry which includes 2 beers or sodas. That is value!
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I always got 3M and I made deals with people during this trip which will made me 10m by 2014 fall...
Your earlier posts were more fun to read.
What happened afterwards was one of the biggest tragedy I have ever encountered. After I woke up the next morning, I was robed...
If I ever meet that lady I'll congratulate her and buy her a big bouquet of roses.
The famous Ingrid from Luomo got hitched. Can anyone confirm if this is a rumor or fact?
Mr Enternational
04-08-12, 03:46
What happened afterwards was one of the biggest tragedy I have ever encountered. After I woke up the next morning, I was robed.
If I ever meet that lady I'll congratulate her and buy her a big bouquet of roses.Why? Simply because she put a robe on him? Or maybe he put it on himself.
Your earlier posts were more fun to read.
If I ever meet that lady I'll congratulate her and buy her a big bouquet of roses.Maybe ask her to take his socks and laptop next time.
Why? Simply because she put a robe on him? Or maybe he put it on himself.It is supposed to be robbed, not robed. Haha!
The famous Ingrid from Luomo got hitched. Can anyone confirm if this is a rumor or fact?Mangera,
Yes I was in Rio a week ago for almost 3 weeks and talked with some of the girls around town and some of the girls that work at L'uomo and even the front desk girls at L'uomo (asking them about the girls I have known over the years) and they told me Ingrid have left the game sometime ago and found and married some dude that took her out of the game and from what I heard is taking good care of her. (some of these Tricks lie to these girls telling them how rich they are and how much money they have and talk the girls into leaving the game and when the girl leave the game to be with them they find out the Trick doesn't have his money right. Either he have child support issues or Baby Mothers problems or fail business deals or owe back taxes) these are the girls you will see return back to the game with their head down.... my thing is IF you are going to try to wife up one of these young Termas girls and try to play Capt. Save a HO make sure you have your money right... ( as most on here know you can't turn a hooker into a house wife) and IF your money is ragged that only make trying to change these girls lives a lot harder..!! I have watch and known and seen many girls that use to work at Club Help and the Termas over the years that have left Brazil and married hard working guys and I have seen them settle down into being a housewife and Mother to kids to guys that wasn't rich but have a good 9-5 job and earn a good living .. so who knows ?? I wish them all the best everyone should be happy in this life.
Well, getting back to Ingrid I have known Ingrid for over 12 years and have watch her work off and on at the Termas and party with her at Club Help on many nights. She is a cool chick I have had her stay over my place without worrying about getting rip-off I still e-mailed her from time to time also. I went over her place a few years ago and she showed me pictures that she have took with so many different NFL players and NBA players and also rappers over the years.
When I heard she got married I thought she got wife up from some Trick here in the states. Since I know she have been here a few times and know lots of guys here BUT from what I heard she got married to a local Brazilian guy.
I am happy for her she been in this game for a long long time and I have watch her change over the years she use to allow pictures. BUT guys that she have trusted have post her pictures ALL over the net and bragged about how and what they did to her so she stopped doing things that she use to do.
Getting married and getting out of this line of business I can only wish her well and the best. After going to Rio for such a long time I have seen so many girls that have got burnt out and got either fat and used up by the game. So whenever I see one that leave on their terms more power to them. And after 12 years or more it really time for her to leave and settle down.
If more girls would work hard for about 8-10 years save up some money. Stay in good shape and married some older Trick / Simp that REALLY have his life and his money right good for them. Just like the other Blonde name Ingrid that use to work at 4x4 I remember going to Rio a few years ago looking for her and I was told she too got married and was having a baby and from what I gather by asking about her a week ago she is keeping a low profile (staying away from girls that are still in the business).
Kid Cisco
yes, brazil is expensive but it's still my favorite p4p place. this was an unusual trip. before my trip, i made arrangements with 3 girls. one for buzios. one for a saturday meeting with a massage girl with benefits. the last one, dinner and playtime in sao paulo.
the girl for buzios flaked on me. i didn't have time to replace her but i went anyways. still had a good time. when i went the timing was good because i needed to recharge the batteries.
the massage girl deborah terapeuta never showed up as planned either. i called her the day before flying into rio to arrange an appointment and she gave me the time and place to meet. saturday morning 10:30 at rio branco 156 room or salas 1836. i showed up, rang the bell, no answer. i call her and she picks up. i ask why she isn't here. first silence, then a hang up. i guess she didn't take me seriously. so much for my sat. plans.
the third girl in sao paulo actually showed up. unfortunately 50 to 60 pounds heavier than last year. she is still a sweet and fun girl but the extra weight was a real turn off for me. but again, at least she kept her appointment.
even with these no shows, i still had a really good time in brazil. usually when i write my trip reports, i write them like a diary of day to day events. this time i will try a little different approach and review the girls gpguia style. with of course the exception being this introduction.
some observation:
after landing, just for fun i went to the taxi booth to see how much it would cost from the airport to catete. the girl said are$86. 00. i said no thanks, walk upstairs and took a cab from there. final cost are$37. 00.
i used the metro everyday while in rio. when i first arrived the metro was are$3. 10. by the time i left which was april 5, the fare went up to are$3. 20.
took the ferry to niteroi. one way fare are$4. 50 which the locals are not happy about. i went on a sunday so no p4p reviews.
thanks to my fellow isg member who suggested this place, i exchanged my money at behar. at the time the exchange rate they gave was are$1. 82 to $1. 00 usd. other places were quoting me are$1. 73 (buzios) to are$1. 76 to are$1. 78 (rio / sao paulo ). this place is located at the corner of rio branco and rue visconde de inhauma with a big sign in front.
photo's: this was the first time where multiple girls would not let me take their pictures. it's not a deal breaker but it used to be no problem. some of the girls let me take pictures of their bodies but no face. only 4 girls let me take whatever pictures i wanted. they all stated not to post the pictures.
tip's: this was the first time in a very long time a receptionist from 4x4 asked for a tip. reminded me of the asian looking receptionist from a long time ago who would ask for tips all the time. anyways, i did not give her a tip and out of all my trips to 4x4, that was the only time i was asked.
best session: another wierd development. i usually don't go for blondes, but the two best sessions i had on this trip, were blondes. i will discuss more on the reviews.
taxis: already review coming into rio. going to the airport from centro by taxi. i hail a cab. right before handing my suitcase to the taxi driver, the cab driver said are$50. 00 to the airport. i told him nao, otro taxi com metro. even if i said it wrong he knew what i meant because he then looked up at me and said no are$50. 00, he will use the meter. final on the meter, are$37. 00. so any newbies, read up as much as you can to at least know a ballpark figure so you can determine if someone is trying to take advantage of you.
girls : i have to admit, there weren't as many stunners as in the past but there were still some good looking girls. but then again timing is everything in our hobby.
Marianna Td : positive BBBJ : Yes Kisses : Yes.
Morena who almost looks oriental. Not the best looking but my first girl in Rio. Good kisser, good BBBJ, DATY and an overall fun time. We made out alot in the boite before going up.
Recommend : yes.
Would I repeat : probably not, too many better looking girls.
Alexa or Alexia Td : positive BBBJ : yes kisses : yes.
Tall slim morena. Had a great time with her in the wiskeria before going up. She is one wild chick. BBBJ, DATY, very passionate. Willing to please.
Recommend : yes.
Would I repeat : yes.
Mona Lisa Td : positive BBBJ: yes kisses : yes.
Kinda short but with a beautiful face. Very friendly and personable. BBBJ, DATY, passionate kisses. I had a great time with her.
Recommend : yes.
Would I repeat : yes.
Michelle Td : positive BBBJ : yes kisses : yes.
Blond hair and a little thicker than what I'am used to but not fat. She was very friendly in the boite. In fact we spent about half an hour just making out in the boite before going upstairs. One of the best BBBJ was given by her. DATY, and passionate kisses. She knows how to please a man.
Recommend : yes.
Would I repeat : Only if there were no slimmer girls around.
Rafaela Td : positive BBBJ : no kisses : yes.
Tall slim morena who I thought was the best looking out of a weak line-up. Fake tities. Almost didn't take her up because of some red flags.
First, no kissing in the boite. She said she love's to kiss but only in the room. Usually when I hear that I leave but for some reason I stayed.
Second, she spoke perfect English. For me it seems I get better sessions with chicks who don't speak English or very little.
Anyways my little head took over for my big head and took her up. At least she kept her word about kissing in the room even though it wasn't the deep passionate kissing I like.
Then she puts on the condom for a CBJ. She did allow DATY but something was missing. The passion.
Recommend : no.
Would I repeat : no.
Luiza Td : negative BBBJ : no Kisses : no.
After my session with Rafaela, went back to the boite to see if the line-up got any better. Not really but Luiza sits next to me and we start talking. She said she was from Sao Paulo and worked at a few clubs over there. The clubs she mention, I have been to. I'am thinking if she work those clubs she must be okay.
I lean in to try and kiss her and she turns away. I ask if she likes kissing and she says yes but only in the room. Since the first girl said the samething and did kiss in the room, I took her up. I have to admit it was wierd when two girls say the samething about kissing. Come to think about it, there wasn't too much making out by anyone in the boite.
Up in the room, I try kissing her but each time she would turn her head. She then goes straight to a CBJ. Does this for a little while and before I know it she gets a glob of ky and puts in on her pussy. Well, no DATY now. I'am a little pissed so I do her doggy style just to do a grude _uck.
Recommend : Hell no, stay away. Now I know why she is going from club to club.
Would I repeat : never.
Luomo's.
Suzy td : positive BBBJ : yes kisses : yes.
Like m / see the line-up wasn't that impressive. I guess most of the better looking chicks were in session. Suzy was the best looking of what was left. Tall dark morena. Very friendly in the boite. Her BBBJ was exceptional, really knows how to use her tongue. She try's very hard to please you.
Recommend : yes.
Would I repeat : probably not, she was good but not over the top
Juliana Td : positive BBBJ : yes kisses : yes.
Not sure if this is the same Juliana Sperto talked about since I found this casa when I clicked on the link for novo massagem. Now the website doesn't come up.
If this is the same Juliana, I can see why he was so impressed. She has like the perfect breast. Not too big, not to small. Pretty girl. Another who knows how to please. BBBJ good, DATY good, very passionate kisses. She is alot of fun.
Recommend : yes.
Would I repeat : yes.
Since there is not to many review of this casa, the address is Rua Conceicao. 19. Price is are$80. 00 for half an hour and are$100. 00 for the hour.
From the metro, get off at Uruguaiana and make a right towards Buenos Aires. At Buenos Aires make a right (basically going away from Rio Branco ). When you get to Conceicao make a left and look for #19. Ring the bell go up the stairs and you will see the receptionist on the left. The room was decent and had a shower in it.
Bella Td : positive BBBJ : yes kisses : yes.
The first of my two best sessions. Bella is a tall slim blond with a pretty face. Girl next door type. She is everything I look forward to. Great kisser, very passionate and seems to really care about the session and your pleasure. Very personable and a whole lot of fun.
Recommend : yes.
Would I repeat : yes and did!
Luiza Td : positive BBBJ : yes kisses : yes.
Pretty slim morena with fake tities. Great BBBJ but because her boobs were recently done, no playing with them. DATY was good, kissing was good but I have to rate this session as decent because of the restrictions on her boobs.
Recommend : Probably when her boobs get settle in.
Would I repeat : No, too many other girls
Eduarda Td : positive BBBJ : yes kisses : yes.
She was the best of a weak line- up for 65. Pretty girl with fake tities. She sold me when she said she would give me a good massage.
Her massage was actually pretty good. Not the best that I ever had but not bad. As far as the session went, BBBJ was good DATY was good but something was missing. The passion wasn't there.
Recommend : not sure, if she was more passionate it would be a definate yes.
Would I repeat : no, too many other out there.
Renata Td : positive BBBJ : yes kisses : yes.
Average height cute blond girl. The second of my favorite sessions. For some reason we clicked on all levels. She is very passionate, great kisser overall fun girl. Very much into pleasing you.
Recommend : yes highly.
Would I repeat : yes and did.
Side note. After our first session, I asked her out for dinner after she finished work. She said yes and we went out. Great time with this girl.
Centro Suzy is located at Rio Branco 156 salas 1839. From the metro, get off at Carioca, turn left and enter building. Only thing I didn't like about the rooms, no individual showers. Other than that, it was fine.
Thank you Quackup for your excellent and interesting reports (including your restaurants reports). Very useful.
Photo's: This was the first time where multiple girls would not let me take their pictures. It's not a deal breaker but it used to be no problem. Some of the girls let me take pictures of their bodies but no face. Only 4 girls let me take whatever pictures I wanted. They all stated not to post the pictures.
I noted that too. Many girls are afraid of having their photos posted on the internet.
Before the digicameras came it was very easy to take a lot of pictures. When the digi cameras was a novelty it became even easier to take pictures. The girls loved to see their photos on the screen and wanted to pose even more. However now when everybody got cameras in their phones, facebook, orkut etc the girls are very aware of the risk of somebody abusing their photos.
Now it takes more persuading to take their photos. Sometimes it helps if I tell the girls I'll email them the photos later (and I actually do it).
Juliana Td : positive BBBJ : yes kisses : yes.
Not sure if this is the same Juliana Sperto talked about since I found this casa when I clicked on the link for novo massagem. Now the website doesn't come up.
If this is the same Juliana, I can see why he was so impressed. She has like the perfect breast. Not too big, not to small. Pretty girl. Another who knows how to please. BBBJ good, DATY good, very passionate kisses. She is alot of fun.
Recommend : yes.
Would I repeat : yes.
Since there is not to many review of this casa, the address is Rua Conceicao. 19. Price is are$80. 00 for half an hour and are$100. 00 for the hour.
Yes, it's the same Juliana. Very cute and wonderful suckable tits. Last year I had her twice. This year my intention was to repeat again, but I got pissed of because the price was raised from R$50 to R$80 for 30 minutes.
Keep on reporting, Quackup!
I arrived here last Thursday. Renting apartment at Ipanema end of the Copa through Aluguel Temporada.
Info for anybody arriving in Rio for the first time. Do not go to the taxi booths on the way out of customs, they will overcharge you. As you walk out of arrivals, don't let the guys standing at the front call a taxi for you, they will scam you. I asked how much for Copa and they said R$100, I said no and they said R$80. I ignored them and joined the queue waiting for a taxi and it cost me R$45. Make sure they turn the meter on, my experience of yellow cabs is that they are pretty good. The tarrif has gone up but they haven't changed the meter (although the tarrifs went up alst year) so you will pay slightly more than is on the meter. For my ride the meter said R$41 but I got charged just under R$45. They have an offical printed sheet which does the conversion from the metered charge to the actual charge). I know that some people get rides from taxis dropping off at departures, but I have never done this. Also, there is a bus which will take you to Copa for about R$8. I usually take this but the ride is over an hour and this time I wanted to get to the apartment quickly.
Whilst on the topic of travel tips, if you are going to Copa it is worth doing your homework and finding out if you are staying at the top end (near Leme) of th bottom end (near Ipanema) as this will determine the route the taxi takes. To get to the Leme end of Copa you go via Centro and Gloria / Botofogo, to get to the Ipanema end you go via Lagoa. Getting to the Ipanames end via Gloria / Botofogo will cost you more. I've never been scammed by the taxi but it is good to be let the driver know where your hotel / apartment is. And look out at the signs to make sure they go the right way.
THURSDAY (5th Apr)
Thursday night I went to MV30 on the darkside. As it was the last day for the termas before Easter (I. E. Closed on Friday) the place was heaving with men. Maybe 4-5 times as many men as women. The girls must have made a killing that night. I recognised a couple of girls from my previous visits, both of whom I would recommend. Viviane (huge butt but needs to use mouthwash) and Gabriela (a great ride). I had come to see Renata. A pretty blond with big natural tits and great GFE. She went off with another guy just after I arrived but came to see me to say Hello, whilst the guy was in the room and said "esparar!". Well there was nothing else to do except watch the zoo. I've never seen MV30 so full (40-50 guys in a small bar). And none of the other girls appealed although there was a cute short thin mulatta with a great butt who was shaking it or all and sundry. Anyway after 40 mins, Renata shows and we nake out for a while before going for a room. She seemed a little more pushy to get to the room this time compared to previous visits. Anyway we book a room but have to wait 30 mins or so as they are all full. The sex was good, she is a great kisser and sucker and those huge natural tits are irresistible but this time she just wanted to lie on her back most of the time or go on all 4s and let me do all the work. I guess she had had a busy night! However, I also guess that she wanted to get up to the room to get the hour with me and get back in the boite and get another one done before the end of the night and having had a busy night had run out of energy by my turn. All in all, a little disappointing and not up to her usual great performance. As they say YMMV and next time I'm in MV30 I may be putting Percy in somebody else. Total cost wqs R$251 (1 hour sessions plus 2 waters for me and 2 choppes for her)
MONDAY (9th Apr)
Decided to do a prive run this morning in AV 156 but things were quiet on the first day back after Easter. I went to Rosa's Massagems (Sala 1932) as I had read on gp guia that a fave from last year. Amanda Miranda (
http://www.amantesecia.com.br/Amanda-Miranda
). Had moved there from Copa. I went in to be told, by the only girl in the prive (an average looking fattish mullata) , that she had gone home for a month to see her family, a real shame. Anyway, I moved onto Centro Susy (Sala 1839) , attracted by a couple of girls on their webpage. A pretty thin blond (Renata?) answered the door and said that they weren't open yet but only had 2 girls. OK. So I moved onto Centro Star, again attracted by a couple of girls on their website. Only two girls were available. Cacau and Valeria. Valeria (
http://centrostar.net/valeria/index.htm
) was one of those that I had liked the look of from the website so I went with her for an hour for R$100 (40 mins is R$85) but it turned out to be a bad experience so my advice is AVOID HER. She is a pretty girl, this with big tits, but not very good in the sack. She was not very enthusiastic and kept asking every couple of minutes if I had come yet. This was extremely offputting. Also I paid for 60 minutes but got 40 but by then I had had enough and wanted to go.
SO MY ADVICE IS TO AVOID VALERIA AT CENTRO STAR.
I've got an ex-GDP girlfriend coming over tonight which will be a much better experience.
I arrived here last Thursday. Renting apartment at Ipanema end of the Copa through Aluguel Temporada.
Info for anybody arriving in Rio for the first time. Do not go to the taxi booths on the way out of customs, they will overcharge you. As you walk out of arrivals, don't let the guys standing at the front call a taxi for you, they will scam you. I asked how much for Copa and they said R$100, I said no and they said R$80. I ignored them and joined the queue waiting for a taxi and it cost me R$45. Make sure they turn the meter on, my experience of yellow cabs is that they are pretty good. The tarrif has gone up but they haven't changed the meter (although the tarrifs went up alst year) so you will pay slightly more than is on the meter. For my ride the meter said R$41 but I got charged just under R$45. They have an offical printed sheet which does the conversion from the metered charge to the actual charge). I know that some people get rides from taxis dropping off at departures, but I have never done this. Also, there is a bus which will take you to Copa for about R$8. I usually take this but the ride is over an hour and this time I wanted to get to the apartment quickly.
Whilst on the topic of travel tips, if you are going to Copa it is worth doing your homework and finding out if you are staying at the top end (near Leme) of th bottom end (near Ipanema) as this will determine the route the taxi takes. To get to the Leme end of Copa you go via Centro and Gloria / Botofogo, to get to the Ipanema end you go via Lagoa. Getting to the Ipanames end via Gloria / Botofogo will cost you more. I've never been scammed by the taxi but it is good to be let the driver know where your hotel / apartment is. And look out at the signs to make sure they go the right way.
THURSDAY (5th Apr)
Thursday night I went to MV30 on the darkside. As it was the last day for the termas before Easter (I. E. Closed on Friday) the place was heaving with men. Maybe 4-5 times as many men as women. The girls must have made a killing that night. I recognised a couple of girls from my previous visits, both of whom I would recommend. Viviane (huge butt but needs to use mouthwash) and Gabriela (a great ride). I had come to see Renata. A pretty blond with big natural tits and great GFE. She went off with another guy just after I arrived but came to see me to say Hello, whilst the guy was in the room and said "esparar!". Well there was nothing else to do except watch the zoo. I've never seen MV30 so full (40-50 guys in a small bar). And none of the other girls appealed although there was a cute short thin mulatta with a great butt who was shaking it or all and sundry. Anyway after 40 mins, Renata shows and we nake out for a while before going for a room. She seemed a little more pushy to get to the room this time compared to previous visits. Anyway we book a room but have to wait 30 mins or so as they are all full. The sex was good, she is a great kisser and sucker and those huge natural tits are irresistible but this time she just wanted to lie on her back most of the time or go on all 4s and let me do all the work. I guess she had had a busy night! However, I also guess that she wanted to get up to the room to get the hour with me and get back in the boite and get another one done before the end of the night and having had a busy night had run out of energy by my turn. All in all, a little disappointing and not up to her usual great performance. As they say YMMV and next time I'm in MV30 I may be putting Percy in somebody else. Total cost wqs R$251 (1 hour sessions plus 2 waters for me and 2 choppes for her)
MONDAY (9th Apr)
Decided to do a prive run this morning in AV 156 but things were quiet on the first day back after Easter. I went to Rosa's Massagems (Sala 1932) as I had read on gp guia that a fave from last year. Amanda Miranda (
http://www.amantesecia.com.br/Amanda-Miranda
). Had moved there from Copa. I went in to be told, by the only girl in the prive (an average looking fattish mullata) , that she had gone home for a month to see her family, a real shame. Anyway, I moved onto Centro Susy (Sala 1839) , attracted by a couple of girls on their webpage. A pretty thin blond (Renata?) answered the door and said that they weren't open yet but only had 2 girls. OK. So I moved onto Centro Star, again attracted by a couple of girls on their website. Only two girls were available. Cacau and Valeria. Valeria (
http://centrostar.net/valeria/index.htm
) was one of those that I had liked the look of from the website so I went with her for an hour for R$100 (40 mins is R$85) but it turned out to be a bad experience so my advice is AVOID HER. She is a pretty girl, this with big tits, but not very good in the sack. She was not very enthusiastic and kept asking every couple of minutes if I had come yet. This was extremely offputting. Also I paid for 60 minutes but got 40 but by then I had had enough and wanted to go.
SO MY ADVICE IS TO AVOID VALERIA AT CENTRO STAR.
I've got an ex-GDP girlfriend coming over tonight which will be a much better experience.A friend of mine who just returned last week from Rio informed me that the cost went up to 12R. I have not used the bus in the past because I usually catch a taxi in the departure drop off area. However, if I do not feel tired from the trip, I will be trying out the bus option. I will check it out in June when I head down to bunda land and write a report.
A friend of mine who just returned last week from Rio informed me that the cost went up to 12R. I have not used the bus in the past because I usually catch a taxi in the departure drop off area. However, if I do not feel tired from the trip, I will be trying out the bus option. I will check it out in June when I head down to bunda land and write a report.Mangera,
Also along with catching a taxi from the departure area on the second level. Most Taxi are aware of us catching them from this area BUT you also want to make sure the Taxi you get in work for a company and has a radio in them. And they use a meter I had to act a fool in the Taxi and I wasn't in Rio not even a hour. LOL LOL
What happen was I told and showed the driver the address and asked how much it would be? Before I put my bags in his Taxi some of my bags was Louie V's. So maybe he thought he hit the lotto when I got in his Taxi and he was going to make a lot of money off of me, I asked him to turn on his meter he said it would be 40 reals I said ok let's go and THAT IS ALL I WILL PAY YOU TOO! To make a long story short this fool was driving so damn slow and was letting almost every guy with a motor bikes get in front of him.
I told him you can keep on bullshitting around IF you want to and driving slow BUT all I am going to by your ass is 40 reals! So keep on letting these motor bikes in front of you. After that he stop letting them get in front of him (so he understood me very well ).
By the time we got to my place he ran the meter up to 65 reals I got out of the Taxi and jump out and I started grabbing my bags and put them on the sidewalk. The doorman for my place was talking to a policeman I tall dark skinned black Brazilian police that was a friend of his so they came over and asked me was everything ok? I told them this fool is trying to run a game on me. The doorman was trying to be cool and said welcome back (he knew me from the last few times I stayed there). I told them watch this I hope I don't have a problem with this fool I gave the Taxi driver 40 reals and the Police and my doorman started laughing after they heard me telling and yeah at the Taxi driver that just because I am a American don't think for a second you are going to run some BS on me. I was standing over the Taxi driver pointing at him telling him how I watch him allowing cars and motorbikes get in front of us all the way from the airport trying to run up the damn meter. Keep in mind I am 6'5 and I was angry! They thought it was a funny sight. I asked the Taxi driver to call his boss (that was when I found out he worked for himself and owned his owned Taxi) the Police told me that.
The doorman pull me to the side and said this time of day with traffic it should have been around 50 reals so I wanted to get unpack and check in and later hit some Termas so I told the Taxi driver ok here is 50 reals and this is going to be it! So the Taxi driver took it and was ready to leave UNTIL the Police started asking him for some paperwork and that was when he wrote him a ticket.
That was when the Taxi driver was trying to get the rest of the money for the fare from me the Police told him to take the Ticket and leave because he overheard me and him agreed that I would pay him 50 reals for the fare. After the Taxi driver left the doorman and the Police high five me and laughed and the Police gave me his card and said that if I have any problems to have someone give him a call.
Keep in mind I wasn't in Rio not even 2 hours LOL LOL and this went down. I was hoping that better things were coming and they were.
So bottom line not ONLY make sure these Taxi driver use their meter also check and see if they have a radio and work for a company. Just in case you have any problems.
As far as taking the Bus from the Airport for 12R I just don't want to have to unload my bags off a bus and have Louie Bags on the sidewalk of Brazil trying to flag down a Taxi to my place so I would take one for the team and pay a Taxi from the Airport to my place NOW if I only have one bag maybe things would be different but I was there for 3 weeks and had lots of bags with me..
Kid Cisco
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Wow, it is such a small world and you never know who will cross your path the funny thing was one cute girl (there were ONLY 2 cute ones I saw that night I thought was cute) but one cute one walked past the table to the restroom and was looking good and me and him both check her out and we looked at each other and smile at each other (a lot of the girls knew his girl because they would stop and speak to her).
Wow I kind of feel bad I didn't say anything else to him BUT when I asked could I sit down I didn't want to ruin his date and his time together. At least now I know his name was Richard R. I. P.
Kid CiscoCisco, where is the trip report that you promised would be full of pictures and new intel?
Eric Cartman
04-10-12, 02:14
Hey Quackup.
Great reports! Thanks much for posting recent, quality intel.
Sorry to hear about your Monte Carlo experiences. Do you speak any Portuguese? The stuff you are talking about, no Brazilian would put up with. I've never had it happen to me there, but I've been going there for more than a year now and I speak OK Porto. I had a girl try to give me CBJ at Centaurus last year, and I told her "Stop. Are you serious?" and when she asked what I meant, I said "I've been living in Rio for more than year, and you are the first girl I've seen in a Termas who has tried to blow me with a condom. I am not accepting that." And she gave in. (But the session still sucked).
Anyway, you also can discuss these things in the boate. I frequently go through exactly what she will or will not do "para evitar mal-entendidos" (to avoid misunderstandings). If they say they won't suck without a condom, I pass.
Glad to hear the other experiences were better.
In my opinion, my Portuguese sucks! But it is good enough to get by. Thanks to your reports and having good sessions at M / C before, I was really looking forward to visiting M / C this year. Usually I don't discuss what the girl does or doesn't do up in the room. I just like to feel the chemistry and then decide. So far only a few duds with this method. Hopefully the line-up gets better at M/C for when I visit next year. But again, for our sport, timing is everything. Since the copa termas are getting so expensive, I look forward to yours and others report, to see if it worth visiting these termas when I do return.
Thanks Q
Cisco, where is the trip report that you promised would be full of pictures and new intel?Bravo,
Please show me and post were " I " PROMISE and said I would write a trip report or anything stating that would be FULL of pictures or EVEN one picture ?
Kid Cisco
Also along with catching a taxi from the departure area on the second level. Most Taxi are aware of us catching them from this area BUT you also want to make sure the Taxi you get in work for a company and has a radio in them. And they use a meter I had to act a fool in the Taxi and I wasn't in Rio not even a hour.
I can't see the need for the taxi having a radio or working for a company. On the contrary I would advice to avoid what they call "radio taxis". These "radio taxis", often white ones, usually charges more.
Personally I always settle for a price before I get into the taxi. A price that's good for me and fair to the driver. It always works very well. It could be because I use a simple Peak Performance bag instead of a Louis Vuitton bag. ;)
A friend of mine who just returned last week from Rio informed me that the cost went up to 12R. I have not used the bus in the past because I usually catch a taxi in the departure drop off area. However, if I do not feel tired from the trip, I will be trying out the bus option. I will check it out in June when I head down to bunda land and write a report.I think I posted that recently as well. 12R last time I took it. It takes longer than a taxi and goes a different way though, so I suppose it depends where you're going, how many bags you have, how much of a rush you're in. If I do get a taxi, I put my bag(s) on the back seat and get them out before I hand over money. As Sperto says, radio taxis cost more. There was one stand at the airport that let you book a normal taxi from arrivals if you want to.
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