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Mangera
11-11-12, 12:11
Appears to be up and running. No proxy is being used. Is it just me?Good for you dude, but I just checked, and I still do not have access.

Almotu
11-11-12, 21:48
I am trying from the USA and get this message "The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading."

Mangera, are you in Brazil as you are trying to access this forum?

Forum Sex Dicas is working from here. Their info is not as universally approved as GPGuia but at least it's something you can read in the meantime.

Google these words for the url.

Mangera
11-12-12, 00:51
I am trying from the USA and get this message "The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading."

Mangera, are you in Brazil as you are trying to access this forum?

Forum Sex Dicas is working from here. Their info is not as universally approved as GPGuia but at least it's something you can read in the meantime.

Google these words for the url.In the USA right now, and no access to gpguia.

Eric Cartman
11-13-12, 01:45
several major police raids occurred this morning in copacabana related to "**** sex"/"sexual abuse of minors" and the balcony prostitution / drug trade. was reported in o globo and other journals. police forcibly entered several residences and seized "evidence" that ranged apparently from actual films of **** girls to simply legal products associated with sex (e. g, condoms, panties). apparently all part of a targeted effort to shut down balcony, as well as complaints from a mother of the alleged **** victim.

apparently a tv station did an expose recently about the **** sex trade in rocina, which prompted the police into more drastic action.

RexG
11-13-12, 03:44
Thanks for the pix.

4x4 girl, light skinned mulatta from manaus. Always on my list but never did her. Makes me want to go back!I believe this girl goes by the name Bom Bom (spelling?). She pronounces it Boom Boom. Silly name but a nice girl. Just did her tonite. Very nice time. Sherroid's asessment is spot on. She's just a bit short of total GFE. But definitely worth a try. A nice break from all the huge bundas at 4x4. Thanks Sherroid for posting her pic.

Mr Enternational
11-13-12, 03:48
several major police raids occurred this morning in copacabana related to "**** sex"/"sexual abuse of minors" and the balcony prostitution / drug trade. was reported in o globo and other journals. police forcibly entered several residences and seized "evidence" that ranged apparently from actual films of **** girls to simply legal products associated with sex (e. g, condoms, panties). apparently all part of a targeted effort to shut down balcony, as well as complaints from a mother of the alleged **** victim.

apparently a tv station did an expose recently about the **** sex trade in rocina, which prompted the police into more drastic action.it's funny this should come about now. didn't the news do a segment on drugs and prostitution at balcony some time before? in this instance i would have to put questions marks all around the word victim. did any balcony mongers lure this girl from her comfy couch at home to go down to balcony and entice her to sell herself? more than likely she went of her own free will with friends or whatever in hopes of finding foreigners to cash in on. seized underwear? lol. what kind of bullshit is that. if that's the case then everybody in the world is going to jail.

Sperto
11-13-12, 07:55
several major police raids occurred this morning in copacabana related to "**** sex"/"sexual abuse of minors" and the balcony prostitution / drug trade. was reported in o globo and other journals. police forcibly entered several residences and seized "evidence" that ranged apparently from actual films of **** girls to simply legal products associated with sex (e. g, condoms, panties). apparently all part of a targeted effort to shut down balcony, as well as complaints from a mother of the alleged **** victim.

apparently a tv station did an expose recently about the **** sex trade in rocina, which prompted the police into more drastic action.police is investigating 40 people that might be involved in prostitution with minors. the police are targeting bars, hotels, taxidrivers and travel agencies. at least one guy is caught. the police also searched balcony and an apartment rented by three americans.

http://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidiano/ultimas-noticias/2012/11/12/suspeito-de-aliciar-criancas-e-adolescentes-em-rede-de-prostituicao-e-preso-na-zona-sul-do-rio.htm

the sex trade in rocinha was exposed about three weeks ago. a veado offering minors to gringos. some of the minors were ex-gf's of traficantes that fled rocinha when upp moved in.

this operation isn't targeted at balcony. balcony is just a part of the scene. they want to clean up all of zona sul.

go ahead, lock up everybody involved in the prostitution ring and close balcony. no loss.

Eric Cartman
11-13-12, 22:58
Go ahead, lock up everybody involved in the prostitution ring and close Balcony. No loss.I don't disagree with you; definitely not. But everyone should be aware that the "prostitution ring" (for minors) is a bit of a smokescreen for these efforts to stamp out P4P in Copa. Remember the new soap opera that launched after the finale of Avenida Brasil is called Salva Jorge and details a favelada who gets caught up in [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) / prostitution. This operation by the police had the same name. They are taking advantage of elevated public attention to make their move. And it was done in such a hamfisted manner that they basically probably caught up 20 "normal" mongers out of the 40 named suspects. Apparently there have been plainclothes police at Balcony most nights observing who goes there.

I would like to see Balcony closed. I think it brings a bad element to this side of Copa and attracts the wrong kind of gringo, as well. But I really resent the brutal approach of the Police here. You basically have no rights as a Brazilian citizen or resident, once a judge gets involved. If they have a search warrant, they are busting down your door and pointing a gun at your head even if you just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Rule of law is very superficial, it seems.

-Cartman

Almotu
11-14-12, 00:56
Besides Balcony, do you think these prostitution raids will spread beyond Balcony? Monte Carlo, Solarium? 4x4, centro termas? Rio Branco apartments?

Bravo
11-14-12, 03:39
And it was done in such a hamfisted manner that they basically probably caught up 20 "normal" mongers out of the 40 named suspects. Apparently there have been plainclothes police at Balcony most nights observing who goes there. I would like to see Balcony closed. I think it brings a bad element to this side of Copa and attracts the wrong kind of gringo, as well. But I really resent the brutal approach of the Police here. You basically have no rights as a Brazilian citizen or resident, once a judge gets involved. If they have a search warrant, they are busting down your door and pointing a gun at your head even if you just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Rule of law is very superficial, it seems.

-CartmanI wonder if some of those mongers didn't even have minors in their apartments just regular working girls from Balcony. I think the article said something about finding "condoms" at a monger's apartment, like that is illegal. Looks like the best way to fight this is to have the girl meet you at your apartment instead of leaving with them.

It looks like the powers that be do not want any P4P on the copa strip where it can be seen! I mentioned it on here before and I will say it again. There is a PERFECT location for a new Help just one block away from Balcony, I think it is a African social club now. (Belfort Roxo and Nossa Senhora) Its off the strip, so you can not see it when driving down Atlantico, its a big ass club that can hold a lot of people. And most important, it is easily accessible. I cant believe that nobody has bought that place and made a fortune by naking it the new help.

Auriflama
11-14-12, 05:33
I wonder if some of those mongers didn't even have minors in their apartments just regular working girls from Balcony. I think the article said something about finding "condoms" at a monger's apartment, like that is illegal. Looks like the best way to fight this is to have the girl meet you at your apartment instead of leaving with them.

It looks like the powers that be do not want any P4P on the copa strip where it can be seen! I mentioned it on here before and I will say it again. There is a PERFECT location for a new Help just one block away from Balcony, I think it is a African social club now. (Belfort Roxo and Nossa Senhora) Its off the strip, so you can not see it when driving down Atlantico, its a big ass club that can hold a lot of people. And most important, it is easily accessible. I can't believe that nobody has bought that place and made a fortune by naking it the new help.You know this whole shakedown is because if these vile corrupt olympics and world cup garbage. Unmitigated greed has all these officials trying to clean things up when their the ones who need to get cleaned up or kicked out fired whatever you want to call it.

Sperto
11-14-12, 06:34
I wonder if some of those mongers didn't even have minors in their apartments just regular working girls from Balcony. I think the article said something about finding "condoms" at a monger's apartment, like that is illegal. Looks like the best way to fight this is to have the girl meet you at your apartment instead of leaving with them.

It looks like the powers that be do not want any P4P on the copa strip where it can be seen! I mentioned it on here before and I will say it again. There is a PERFECT location for a new Help just one block away from Balcony, I think it is a African social club now. (Belfort Roxo and Nossa Senhora) Its off the strip, so you can not see it when driving down Atlantico, its a big ass club that can hold a lot of people. And most important, it is easily accessible. I can't believe that nobody has bought that place and made a fortune by naking it the new help.If they found a gringo with a minor in the apartment they would propably have published a photo of him holding his passport.

Another god spot for a New Help would be the Clube Israelita Brasileiro on R Rabata Ribeiro (tv R Santa Clara). The club sometimes holds big forró-parties. I've been there once and the building would be very suitable. Of course the prefeitura would propably do everything possible to avoid a New Help.

Another option for a New Help could be the disco Mariuzinn on Av NS Cop 435. Mariuzinn is popular among locals, they would propably not appreciate the place turning into a puteiro. However if enough gringos goes there, the GPs would follow like flies on shit. Just speculating.

Mr Enternational
11-14-12, 08:18
...Let it go guys! LOL

Brazil Specialist
11-14-12, 14:32
i've been rtffing on several sites including trip advisor and google. noticed vila mimosa is the rdl? is it still the spot? i read one article where it said the government was cracking down on it.

thanks for your time though. i appreciate you taking the comment on my post. i'll continue my research. oh and in your opinion, are the carnivals a must see? really fun?

thanks,

ygit seems vila mimosa is, and has always been, respected by goverment. so much that every time the close it down, they provide a new place for it. this is planned when they close down vm next time, due to the projected bullet train rio sao paulo.


brazil continues to be great with the same scene and excellent selection. the only exception is copacabana.

unfortunately brazil has become more expensive. not a big problem if you skip the expensive termas etc.

i agree that the forum is being quite dead right now. i look on the bright side, less gringos is an advantage for the gringos who go to brazil.sperto, if you do not notice that p4p is going downhill in brazil, you are not watching. i wish i had comments from our expert, macunaima, which was scared away from here due to a lot of stupid commenters.

40 years ago brazil was a single working girl house with red light districts in every little town. 30 years ago girls were standing at street corners downtown at 5 pm, lapa was full of whoring boites, all the richest women and wives of rich men were working girls. 20 years ago. i don't want to mention names, but believe me i am talking some the richest of brazil, if not in the world.

20 years ago nata, fortaleza, manaus were tourist meccas full of girls everywhere. truck stops had girls lingering everywhere. termas were us$20 for brazilians, and trash places were us$2. apartments were all over and vm was a big area with lots of dingy houses.

10 years ago i was accosted by madams and pimps daily offering new catch. all have either been imprisoned, and stopped for fear of the law and police.

and now, if a gringo friend wants a girl sunday at 2 pm, there is only starcris. com with 2 fat dogs to choose from. correct me if i am wrong. what is outside of copacabana? 10% of what was there 20 years ago. how many new houses opened in the last 5 years. compare that with the number of closures. karlamodels and scortshow closed.

yes, still something left, thank god. but with this female feminist government, things don't look good. i should not say this, but i like to go to oase in frankfurt for cheap quality beauties in safe clean police-free environment.


several major police raids occurred this morning in copacabana related to "**** sex"/"sexual abuse of minors" and the balcony prostitution / drug trade. was reported in o globo and other journals. police forcibly entered several residences and seized "evidence" that ranged apparently from actual films of **** girls to simply legal products associated with sex (e. g, condoms, panties). apparently all part of a targeted effort to shut down balcony, as well as complaints from a mother of the alleged **** victim.

apparently a tv station did an expose recently about the **** sex trade in rocina, which prompted the police into more drastic action.i once wrote an article about **** avoidance. it is essential to never even walk with a girl (that looks under 35) without checking for i'd, checking if it looks fake, and ideally taking a photo so the girl does not show another 17y i'd once police shows up. balcony is dangerous

add to that that a recent police raid unearthed 7 girls with rohypnol, ready to drug and rob unsuspecting gringos.


i wonder if some of those mongers didn't even have minors in their apartments just regular working girls from balcony. i think the article said something about finding "condoms" at a monger's apartment, like that is illegal. looks like the best way to fight this is to have the girl meet you at your apartment instead of leaving with them.

it looks like the powers that be do not want any p4p on the copa strip where it can be seen! i mentioned it on here before and i will say it again. there is a perfect location for a new help just one block away from balcony, i think it is a african social club now. (belfort roxo and nossa senhora) its off the strip, so you can not see it when driving down atlantico, its a big ass club that can hold a lot of people. and most important, it is easily accessible. i can't believe that nobody has bought that place and made a fortune by naking it the new help.who wants to face down the municipal, state, and federal governments and risk to run afoul of laws against favoring prostitution? too much risk and trouble.

and yes, lots of gringos are stupid enough to risk $100 k in bribes by going with girls without a serious i'd check. very dangerous. and if you are american, you risk being jailed again in the us for kissing a 17 year old.

spam to follow:

i am always glad for people who can bring me shopping items from the us (yes, i pay cost, of course). i try to give advice, where possible. but advice does not come by as easily as it used to be. feel free to visit. i think some of the regulars or residents like sperto, macunaima, bubba, christopherd! feel free to stop by and say hi, i live 3 blocks away from where help was.

i still rent suites in my apartment http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3281-brazil-specialist-s-rental-apartments

Sperto
11-14-12, 15:45
Sperto, if you do not notice that P4P is going downhill in Brazil, you are not watching.
There is no doubt that Brazil still offers great mongering, even though the real has become more expensive.

What is outside of Copacabana? 10% of what was there 20 years ago.
BS, excuse my french but that's BS. There are less puteiros outside Copacabana than there used to be, but the difference is neglectable for the average monger.
Why whining, what's the big deal if you find 30 instead of 40 puteiros in Centro?

Exec Talent
11-14-12, 17:14
There is no doubt that Brazil still offers great mongering, even though the real has become more expensive.

BS, excuse my french but that's BS. There are less puteiros outside Copacabana than there used to be, but the difference is neglectable for the average monger.

Why whining, what's the big deal if you find 30 instead of 40 puteiros in Centro?Seems that for some people living in Rio and trying to rent out rooms in his apartment that operation Salve Jorge hit too close to home.

Poucolouco
11-14-12, 17:15
If they found a gringo with a minor in the apartment they would propably have published a photo of him holding his passport.They did publish a photo of the suspect, Carlos Deanglo but he's not holding a passport. Some of you may recognize him from Balcony.

Sperto
11-14-12, 17:20
They did publish a photo of the suspect, Carlos Deanglo but he's not holding a passport. Some of you may recognize him from Balcony.I saw that one too. No need for a passport as he's brazilian.

During the years I've seen several brazilian news reports with imprisoned gringos. They really like to show them off, giving close captures of their passports. Nothing wrong with that, they have propably deserved it.

ChrisDrug
11-14-12, 22:43
If they found a gringo with a minor in the apartment they would propably have published a photo of him holding his passport.

Another god spot for a New Help would be the Clube Israelita Brasileiro on R Rabata Ribeiro (tv R Santa Clara). The club sometimes holds big forró-parties. I've been there once and the building would be very suitable. Of course the prefeitura would propably do everything possible to avoid a New Help.

Another option for a New Help could be the disco Mariuzinn on Av NS Cop 435. Mariuzinn is popular among locals, they would propably not appreciate the place turning into a puteiro. However if enough gringos goes there, the GPs would follow like flies on shit. Just speculating.I have been to Mariuzinn at Av NS Cop 435 over 5 times. I have lived in Copacabana nearly the entire year of 2006 and 07 and my local friends used to take me there with local non pro Brasilieras. I end up dating few of them for short term. One 21 why / old was from north Brazil who came to Rio to sponsor a domestic product in various locations of Zona Sul supermercado and elsewhere. I end up sleeping with few of them but when I add in their entry fee to the club, drinks, food, and cab fare (which I voluntarily paid) , it wasn't so cheap. Nevertheless, in Mariuzinn, they require CPF card to get in, however, a friend of mine knew the one of the bouncer at that time who let me in once I slip him a R$20 note. Currently, they are strict with I'd's though. In addition, I found out that it's very difficult for a group of guys to get in on Fri or Sat night after 11 or so. I once or twice spotted a help GDP there who were either hanging out with their clients or bfs. Rio is reaching it's downfall, in terms of a p4p scene. I'm flying within few weeks and I'm already worried due to lack of options. Star Cris is the only daytime escort agency option left which I hope doesn't shutdown before I get there. Centaurus, Solarium, and 65 are ridiculously expensive. IMO, Monte Carlo (Tues only) , Cancun, and 4x4 are the only Termas left with a little rational prices.

Sperto
11-15-12, 06:21
Nevertheless, in Mariuzinn, they require CPF card to get in, however, a friend of mine knew the one of the bouncer at that time who let me in once I slip him a R$20 note. Currently, they are strict with I'd's though.They don't demand a CPF to enter. The bouncer propably just wanted your R$20.
They ask for I'd. A passport copy works fine.

Sherroid
11-15-12, 06:31
what i saw at balcony: i spent each night there (6 days in oct as a newbie) and the only 'questionable' aged garotas were strictly passerbys. i rtf and was prepared to ask for i'd but the only teenies i saw or took to our apartment were clearly their stated age or more likely older. and i was looking for the younger ones. i know from being there that anyone can be fooled, trannies and such, but these balcony chicas had miles on them. good for late night but for my two cents i think the **** thing is an excuse to shut it down.

for a newbie like me staying in copa was a waste. never hit the beach but once and the p4p scene there is balcony or nothing but mc. cheaper (everything) in centro and more to see and do imo. will stay in centro next and taxi to copa / ipanema if needed. can't make a veteran comparison but i got what i was looking for there in the p4p scene.

Golfinho
11-15-12, 06:52
They did publish a photo of the suspect, Carlos Deanglo but he's not holding a passport. Some of you may recognize him from Balcony.Recognized him from Addams' Family.

Brazil Specialist
11-15-12, 11:06
There is no doubt that Brazil still offers great mongering, even though the real has become more expensive.

BS, excuse my french but that's BS. There are less puteiros outside Copacabana than there used to be, but the difference is neglectable for the average monger.

Why whining, what's the big deal if you find 30 instead of 40 puteiros in Centro?The quality in Tijuca has taken a dive. Photos on the sites are now fully dressed with face blanked out.

Just discourages me to even try.

Yes, there still are options, thank God. But they reduced considerably.

Ipanema Carioca
11-15-12, 18:35
.For a newbie like me staying in Copa was a waste. Never hit the beach but once and the p4p scene there is balcony or nothing but MC. Cheaper (everything) in Centro and more to see and do IMO. Will stay in Centro next and taxi to Copa / Ipanema if needed. Can't make a veteran comparison but I got what I was looking for there in the p4p scene.Smart decision Sherroid. I think Copa is a waste. I'm very familiar with Copa but the average person in Copa don't give a damn about you. The shabby apartments are not worth it.

PatmarBeleza1
11-16-12, 06:25
I think best best for cart man or mongers in general on brazilcupid is to go after girls in cities besides RJ. The social graph is too connected to GDPs in Rio. On the social networks, every few clicks leads to a 4x4 girl or a former GDP.

With copa under pressure from the government, I think the sweet spot is in tijuca. Motel malaga is within walking distance of vila mimosa, mosaico, red light club; and in daylight a number of prices like massagem tijuca, mix massagem, annes massagem; and a quick bus ride to centro. It's not going to get any better going to 2014-16, but for the same $R, the same bunda can be had.

After 4+ months living with a brasileira, as they say, 'it's just work'. Nagged to schedule cleaners; but watching her blow dry her red hair evokes Clapton, Wonderful Tonight; still gone a-whoring to local strip clubs; at least I practice my portugese, which keeps her laughing

Sperto
11-17-12, 09:04
They did publish a photo of the suspect, Carlos Deanglo but he's not holding a passport. Some of you may recognize him from Balcony.Cidade Alerta. Mostly the fat pervo and a tiny bit on Balcony.

http://noticias.r7.com/cidade-alerta/video/homem-e-preso-acusado-de-aliciar-menores-de-idade-para-prostituicao-no-rio-de-janeiro-50a2b38db61c039d80b10bde/

Exec Talent
11-17-12, 16:08
Cidade Alerta. Mostly the fat pervo and a tiny bit on Balcony.

http://noticias.r7.com/cidade-alerta/video/homem-e-preso-acusado-de-aliciar-menores-de-idade-para-prostituicao-no-rio-de-janeiro-50a2b38db61c039d80b10bde/Seems the days are numbered for those who like them "young and fresh." Maybe it is time for them to pack it in and leave Brazil for another country. Maybe Germany.

Bravo
11-17-12, 20:18
Seems the days are numbered for those who like them "young and fresh." Maybe it is time for them to pack it in and leave Brazil for another country. Maybe Germany.That has been the one huge advantage that the Dominican Republic has over Rio. An abundance of 18-22 year old working girls! I have not had sex with an gdp under 25 in the past 5 years, all the young ones have left for Europe.

ChrisDrug
11-17-12, 23:01
Seems the days are numbered for those who like them "young and fresh." Maybe it is time for them to pack it in and leave Brazil for another country. Maybe Germany.Getting laid in Brazil is startin to be harder than getting a piece of ass in US, What is going on? I swear it aint even worth buying a ticket for Rio anymore with this egoistical behavior against tourism. I just don't understand about what the * are they trying to prove? Is that an example of a efficiency of Globalization? I don't think so. I think some politicians are trying to cheaply score by earning political points via shutting down one Getting laid in Braz. I'm so glad that I'm not in Brazil right no because I'm hitting London on Tues where I can Bang a hottie with BBBJ and Completa every night for ½ the cost of Termas in my hotel room.

Mongmann
11-18-12, 23:04
Getting laid in Brazil is startin to be harder than getting a piece of ass in US, What is going on? I swear it aint even worth buying a ticket for Rio anymore with this egoistical behavior against tourism. I just don't understand about what the * are they trying to prove? Is that an example of a efficiency of Globalization? I don't think so. I think some politicians are trying to cheaply score by earning political points via shutting down one Getting laid in Braz. I'm so glad that I'm not in Brazil right no because I'm hitting London on Tues where I can Bang a hottie with BBBJ and Completa every night for ½ the cost of Termas in my hotel room.LMAO! Stop it man. You're out of your mind if you think mongering in London can be compared to Rio or anywhere in Brazil for that matter. This has to be a joke. 4x4 costs me about $130 (I don't drink). So you mean to tell me you're banging working girls in London for $65 or like 45GBP? Man that is an insane statement. LOL!

Mongmann
11-18-12, 23:07
That has been the one huge advantage that the Dominican Republic has over Rio. An abundance of 18-22 year old working girls! I have not had sex with an gdp under 25 in the past 5 years, all the young ones have left for Europe.Yeah but the problem is the quality in the DR does not compare most of the time. Those chicks just can't fcuk like those in Brazil. For that porn star experience Rio is the heavyweight champ of the world. A lot of guys complain about the quality at Balcony but in my opinion I'd say about 75% of the chicks in Sosua are about on par with what you can find at Balcony.

Ipanema Carioca
11-19-12, 00:59
A lot of guys complain about the quality at Balcony but in my opinion I'd say about 75% of the chicks in Sosua are about on par with what you can find at Balcony.But at 39 peso per 1 US v. 2.3 reais per 1 US. I go no higher. I do the fucking the girls don't. I also get what I want in Sosua. Plus I stay at a nice hotel in Sosua for $65 US a night with breakfast, where in Rio the same is equal to $100 US a night.

Prosal
11-19-12, 01:18
in Rio the same is equal to $100 US a night.No way you can find a nice hotel in Rio for 100 us$. You're lucky if you can get a room for 450 reals in a mid-level option like Mercure, and for those rates you need to book well in advance to ensure you can get a reservation. Brasil is ridiculously expensive nowadays. Ipanema Carioca is right, today, all bets are off in Brasil as the country is flush with cash. Todays Brasil is not the Brasil of 10 years ago or even of 5 years ago.

Prosal
11-19-12, 01:35
LMAO! Stop it man. You're out of your mind if you think mongering in London can be compared to Rio or anywhere in Brazil for that matter. This has to be a joke.As a side note, according to Mercer 2012 survey (Cost of Living worldwide rankings) , Sao Paulo (12) and Rio de Janeiro (13) are the most expensive cities for expatriates across both North and South America (New York is 33rd). London is 25th.

Mongmann
11-19-12, 06:09
But at 39 peso per 1 US v. 2.3 reais per 1 US. I go no higher. I do the fucking the girls don't. I also get what I want in Sosua. Plus I stay at a nice hotel in Sosua for $65 US a night with breakfast, where in Rio the same is equal to $100 US a night.I hear you. Thing is I don't necessarily like doing all the work when I'm paying. I can beat my own meat at home and do all the work. I'm in this for the kick ass experience not for a chick that I do all the work with. Last time I was in Rio I literally got a 45 min BJ from a chick at my apt. In Sosua most of the girls are too lazy to even do half of that. They'll be complaining,"papi, papi" before too long. There is a difference of about $50 BTW a pick up off the streets of Rio (I pay 200 BRL) and the streets in sosua. Obviously the termas are more expensive. In my humble opinion the service in Rio kicks the crap out of Sosua on it's worse day.

Ipanema Carioca
11-19-12, 07:04
I hear you. Thing is I don't necessarily like doing all the work when I'm paying. I can beat my own meat at home and do all the work. I'm in this for the kick ass experience not for a chick that I do all the work with. Last time I was in Rio I literally got a 45 min BJ from a chick at my apt. In Sosua most of the girls are too lazy to even do half of that. They'll be complaining,"papi, papi" before too long. There is a difference of about $50 BTW a pick up off the streets of Rio (I pay 200 BRL) and the streets in sosua. Obviously the termas are more expensive. In my humble opinion the service in Rio kicks the crap out of Sosua on it's worse day.You're right 100% but Rio is getting outrageous with the inflation even thought the currency is 2 for 1. For a while I was going 5 times a year but now once. Now I go other places. Rio is getting boring. For example, we've only had one "Report of Distinction" in a long time. Thanks Sherrod!

Ipanema Carioca
11-20-12, 07:08
No way you can find a nice hotel in Rio for 100 us$.Prosal, I get frequent client status at the Rio Roiss. I also found two hotels that are better than Rio Roiss in Niteroi for less. I've given up on the overprice roach and bed bug infest Copa and Ipanema apartments long ago.

Java Man
11-20-12, 10:46
I also found two hotels that are better than Rio Roiss in Niteroi for less. I've given up on the overprice roach and bed bug infest Copa and Ipanema apartments long ago.Begs two question: What Hotels? Also, care to share your adventures in Niteroi? Thanks in advance.

Jan 156
11-21-12, 10:56
As a side note, according to Mercer 2012 survey (Cost of Living worldwide rankings) , Sao Paulo (12) and Rio de Janeiro (13) are the most expensive cities for expatriates across both North and South America (New York is 33rd). London is 25th.True. But with several years experience I can live better for less in Rio, as opposed to SP, which kicks the crap out of my wallet.

Java Man
11-21-12, 15:48
True. But with several years experience I can live better for less in Rio, as opposed to SP, which kicks the crap out of my wallet.Come on Guy's, share this wealth of information. That's two recent postings with the above sentiment, but no Hard info. Sure, simple enough, stay out of Copa and Ipanema. I believe Chris likes to stay in Centro hotels, IIRC. But staying there limits ones weekends options: Vila Minosa and Lapa, metro to Copa, taxi back to centro.

A recent search for accommodations in Botagofo and Lapa areas were just as expensive as Copa. And there were not that many places. I've visited Nitoroi once, many years ago. But besides the New Jack City building, what else is there to do there?

As the World Cup and Olympics draw nearer, I fear these places outside of Copa will also become outrageously expensive. But that's in the future, let's help a fellow monger who's planning a trip in the next month or two by providing more informative posts. (Insert Big Smiley here.) thanks in advance.

Sperto
11-21-12, 16:48
...But that's in the future, let's help a fellow monger who's planning a trip in the next month or two by providing more informative posts.
That's a nice thought, more informative posts. The few informative reports shared in this thread quickly gets burrowed in tons of posts complaining on how expensive everything has become and how everything was better before. It doesn't encourage anybody to share new information.

Salbaggio
11-21-12, 18:02
That's a nice thought, more informative posts. The few informative reports shared in this thread quickly gets burrowed in tons of posts complaining on how expensive everything has become and how everything was better before. It doesn't encourage anybody to share new information.But that's the truth, Rio is too expensive now, the shitty apartements at Copa, are to high, even in Botafogo, Centro the same, and the girls at the cheapest places like a dirty shit hole VM. 2 years ago wanted 28 reais, now 60 reais. Not to mention insane prices in termas around 350-400 reais for 40 min. Nobody cares to go there anymore for mongering.

ChrisDrug
11-22-12, 06:21
LMAO! Stop it man. You're out of your mind if you think mongering in London can be compared to Rio or anywhere in Brazil for that matter. This has to be a joke. 4x4 costs me about $130 (I don't drink). So you mean to tell me you're banging working girls in London for $65 or like 45GBP? Man that is an insane statement. LOL!I know a madam in London and guess what. Tonight was my first night in London. I paid UK120 pounds for a 5 8" super hot blond whos 19 years old for a programma, BBBJ and anal. She was so freakin hot that she's gona meet me after my Sat night party in stretford London. F* Brazilian pricks. I'm havin a world class time with world class chiks. [Deleted by Admin]

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Sperto
11-22-12, 09:06
But that's the truth, Rio is too expensive now, the shitty apartements at Copa, are to high, even in Botafogo, Centro the same, and the girls at the cheapest places like a dirty shit hole VM. 2 years ago wanted 28 reais, now 60 reais. Not to mention insane prices in termas around 350-400 reais for 40 min. Nobody cares to go there anymore for mongering.If you can't afford mongering in Rio, don't go there.

I could be mistaken but I thought the thread was meant to be used for sharing information, not to be crying about that it used to be cheaper. That doesn't really help the mongers who still goes to Rio and appreciate updated information.

Prosal
11-22-12, 09:18
That doesn't really help the mongers who still goes to Rio and appreciate updated information.The fact that Rio (and more globally, Brasil) is ridiculously expensive now IS an updated information (rolleyes) , maybe more useful for the monger than the nth report about pay-per-minute nightmare prostitutes.

Jan 156
11-22-12, 11:02
Come on Guy's, share ., let's help a fellow monger who's planning a trip in the next month or two by providing more informative posts. (Insert Big Smiley here.) thanks in advance.Most of the info is there for those that need it. People whining somewhere else is better phooey. And in the somewhere else forums are people whining that somewhere somewhere else is better. Just to say how wonderful a time they are having.

I mentioned SP is pricier for me because I am less experienced there. I have to work each area from ground zero. But in Rio, I'm more at home. Earlier this year I didn't stay at my usual rental, so took an AirBnB place in Leme for a while, then used two other locations elsewhere in the city for the rest of my trip.

It's pretty simple, but doesn't suit many people. My standard format, which anyone can do, is arrive with only a small bag. I can walk around and look at places that aren't readily visible online. I come to Rio for Brasil, not the mongering. But I find enough mongering to keep me satisfied. I've no interest in 4x4.type places.

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11-22-12, 16:53
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Sperto
11-22-12, 17:32
Most of the info is there for those that need it.That's true. IMO the most valuable information to be added are updates on privês, as privês are the most priceworthy mongering options, and their locations changes often. Unfortunately those updates are almost non-existent in this thread.

I'll soon spend about 4 months in Brazil, and as usual I'll visit every privê I can find. No way that I'll post another privê-list on this board. I rather exchange privê updates by PM with a few chosen forum members.

No comments needed for the poster before and after Christopherd's post.
Just this one:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=101592&d=1220263651

Prosal
11-22-12, 17:44
No comments needed for the poster before and after Christopherd's post.

Just this one:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=101592&d=1220263651Hum. Foda-se. Classy, as usual (and, as usual, a bit embittered towards the posters who don't see Brasil through pink-tinted lens). No wonder that the lower-end options are your most favorite hunting grounds.

Ipanema Carioca
11-22-12, 21:27
There are some lazy mongers who ask for information that's already has been addressed, posted, commented on, discussed, corrected and etc. You verify this by using a very valuable tool labeled "Advanced Search". This tool is in English, a primary language used on this board. How I know that this tool is not used is if you ask me a question about Niteroi and I know I posted Niteroi report in the past, then I know you are lazy and want me to do your research.

Fellas, the questions that many are curious about have been asked and answered a thousand times. I agree with Christopherd,"Most of the info is there for those that need it."

And I agree with Sperto,"If you can't afford to go." why come here and whine? You must be doing something wrong because I go to Rio and save money by doing my research, negotiate my prices, and stay out of tier one termas. So if you can't deal with world wide inflation then don't go.

And back to my first point, I've been on this board thousands of times and I have been to Rio many times flying from Los Angeles with whining about airfare, accommodations, taxi, busfare and etc. And if I have new information I will post. THis whining and bitching that goes on here makes me understand why Rio is too expensive for the "whiners".

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11-22-12, 22:00
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RexG
11-23-12, 00:17
I recently returned from my annual visit to Rio. It's still monger heaven for me. Some notes from my visit:

Cacau VIPs is located at R. Bento Lisboa, 184, sala 609. It is a two minute walk across a small plaza from the Largo do Machado metro station. I had seen their website (http://www.cacauvips.com/) and thought the talent looked hot enough to chance a visit. I was particularly interested in Julia. This privé is reasonably well-reviewed at gpguia. I arrived around 6:30PM after I was drained dry in a session at 4x4 with Liliane. Due to my sexual depletion, I wanted to opt for a one hour session with a massage. Hopefully with a massage, I could again rise to the occasion. To my pleasant surprise, Julia was one of the three available girls on duty, so I immediately picked her. She is very petite. She looks great and is true to her website photos. Nice pert little titties and a perfect little bunda. Her face is obscured in her photos, but she is very cute. A few tatoos detract a bit. I believe that I was the only customer at that hour, probably near closing time. And maybe that is why only 3 girls were available. Alas, Julia provided only a so-so performance. The massage was mediocre. It sounds odd but she sang rather sweetly while rubbing down my back. It was a bit of a turn-on. Indeed I was able to rise to the occasion, but I don't think that I would repeat. The cabins are clean. The shower is down the hall. My subjective ratings for this place (co-opting Sperto's rating system):

Cabin=B,Service=B,Standard=B,Number=3,WV=B

If there were a "Value" category, I would have to assign a "C" rating. The price was 150R for an hour. Perhaps I was given the tourist welcome.

The rest of my 2012 visit broke no new ground, but here are my top five Brasileras from this trip:

5. Bombom (4x4) - A mulatta from Manaus. Recently captured in Sherroid's photos a few pages down in this thread.

4. Liliane (4x4) - A star performer but a bit thick for my tastes.

3. (Name unknown) (4x4) - This girl is from Belém. She is also a bit thick in the 4x4 tradition, but not as thick as Liliane, and very much in shape. She has a child but you would never know by looking at her. She is 32 and has medium-sized breast implants. Turns out I had also had a session with her a year ago during my 2011 visit. A great performer. I could never decipher her 4x4 name, though she repeated it for me several times.

2. Fabiana (Monte Carlo) - A petite, childless, 20 year old sweetheart with blond highlights in her hair. A terrific little body with no tatoos. A perfect bunda. (Alas, there are so many perfect bundas in Brazil.) While second overall, I believe she was the top performer of my trip.

1. Fanny (4x4) - What can I say. This girl is the realization of my perfect body type -- tallish, slender, firm natural tits, flat stomach, long legs, and yet another perfect bunda. All showcased by a lovely mane of curly blond-highlighted hair. Though her face isn't as spectacular as the rest of her body, and a tidy C-section scar detracts ever so slightly from her fantastic body, I believe that Fanny is one of the hottest girls you could hope to find in the termas. Her performance was first rate, if not the best of my trip. But combined with her terrific body, she ranked number 1 overall in my highly subjective analysis.

YMMV.

Sperto
11-23-12, 07:27
I recently returned from my annual visit to Rio. It's still monger heaven for me. Some notes from my visit:

Cacau VIPs is located at R. Bento Lisboa. 184, sala 609. It is a two minute walk across a small plaza from the Largo do Machado metro station. I had seen their website (http://www.cacauvips.com/) and thought the talent looked hot enough to chance a visit. I was particularly interested in Julia. This privé is reasonably well-reviewed at gpguia.RexG, thank you for a nice report.

Did you call them before and made an appointment or did you just drop by? I passed Cacauvips last year. Only one girl available and she explained that they only work by appointment.
R$150/1 hour. Do you know the price for 30 min, R$80?

Jupanteras is in the same building (http://jupanteras.com). The fat porteiro didn't want to give me the sala number. I think Bubba mentioned sala 1021. Anybody can confirm that? I really need to try Rayssa.

Ipanema Carioca
11-23-12, 08:26
HAHAHAHAHA I see all of you can afford to go there? I'm just wondering why is not anybody of you rich guys down there?Because most of us are not Brazilian citizens. Right now in Montego Bay, next moth Sosua. Rio after carnival. What else youwanna know?

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11-23-12, 16:31
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Java Man
11-23-12, 16:58
You don't see this everyday at Copacabana Palace.

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mulheres-do-grupo-femen-tiram-blusa-em-protesto-6797859

Sperto
11-23-12, 17:19
You don't see this everyday at Copacabana Palace.
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mulheres-do-grupo-femen-tiram-blusa-em-protesto-6797859Funny protest.
A video of the two dragons, attention seekers.
http://g1.globo.com/videos/rio-de-janeiro/t/todos-os-videos/v/grupo-de-ativistas-do-femen-faz-protesto-contra-turismo-sexual-no-rio/2256475/

Mangera
11-23-12, 17:51
RexG, thank you for a nice report.

Did you call them before and made an appointment or did you just drop by? I passed Cacauvips last year. Only one girl available and she explained that they only work by appointment.

R$150/1 hour. Do you know the price for 30 min, R$80?

Jupanteras is in the same building (

http://jupanteras.com

). The fat porteiro didn't want to give me the sala number. I think Bubba mentioned sala 1021. Anybody can confirm that? I really need to try Rayssa.She is a good lay, and I found her to be attractive mulata. I did have to make an appointment ahead of time with Ju Panteras. I forget the apartment number, but I want to say it was on the third floor, all the way at the end of the hallway. They actually have a couple of apartments within the same building. That being said, whenever I rang doorbell and entered, they almost always had a couple of other garotas in the waiting room. Just guessing. They may be very strict with the appointment process because they don't want to have a bunch of guys parading in and out the of the residential building.

BTW, there rooms are very cramped. Also, keep an eye out for the time you get in the room, cause the young gal at the door is capable of knocking on your door saying time is up, when there is actually time leftover.

Sperto
11-23-12, 18:37
She is a good lay, and I found her to be attractive mulata. I did have to make an appointment ahead of time with Ju Panteras...
Thank you, Mangera. I'll make an appointment for Rayssa as soon as I arrive in Rio.
She looks very nice indeed. :D
http://jupanteras.com/meninas/Rayssa/rayssa.htm

RexG
11-23-12, 19:45
Did you call them before and made an appointment or did you just drop by? I passed Cacauvips last year. Only one girl available and she explained that they only work by appointment. R$150/1 hour. Do you know the price for 30 min, R$80?

Jupanteras is in the same building (

http://jupanteras.com

). The fat porteiro didn't want to give me the sala number. I think Bubba mentioned sala 1021. Anybody can confirm that? I really need to try Rayssa.I didn't make an advance appointment at Cacau VIPs. I just dropped by. Perhaps they prefer appointments but there were 3 girls available when I visited. BTW, their website, if I translated correctly, says they are open on Saturdays. My first attempt there was on a Saturday but they were closed. I should have paid more attention, but I don't recall the price for 30 minutes.

I have also wondered about Ju Panteras. I wanted to stop there my past two visits, but could never determine the sala number. My Portuguese is bad, so calling is not a very good option for me. Have fun with Rayssa.

Rio Bob
11-23-12, 20:21
I live close to D. C. But not interested in trying to walk in unless I could walk out same day with a visa. I have read I need to already have my plane ticket or itinerary with the application. I swear about once a year I decide to go to Brazil and then get stuck on the visa requirement and end up going to Colombia or some other easier to get to destination.

Why would I buy a plane ticket if I don't have a visa yet?Because you can't get a VISA without a plane ticket. It's good for 10 years, you can always buy a full priced ticket that can be refunded, get your VISA and then refund the ticket.

Almotu
11-24-12, 02:03
Mangera & other members who had problems accessing GPGuia from the US. I am in Sao Paulo right now and can confirm that GPGuia is up & running. However you still need to log in using your registered GPGuia username in order to browse the posts in the Massagems & Prives sections. The acompanhantes section however is wide open and do not require you to log in! I normally use GPGuia for Sao Paulo only but might try to get intel on Rio as well this trip.

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11-24-12, 02:33
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Ipanema Carioca
11-24-12, 02:37
Salbaggio is complaining about information her and history under that name only 3 posts! I recommend "ignoring" his posts for he's suspect!

Jazzy Daddy
11-24-12, 03:29
Thank you, Mangera. I'll make an appointment for Rayssa as soon as I arrive in Rio.

She looks very nice indeed. .

http://jupanteras.com/meninas/Rayssa/rayssa.htmHad this lovely honey a couple of times in May. She's a hardbody and loves to take it in the bunda! Enjoy.

Eric Cartman
11-24-12, 03:42
Back from a Centro trip.

Hit 502 to start, but not even a few of my normal faves were on the floor. Just a lot of big-bodied chicks.

Walked over to "the dark side" (the other side of Presidente Vargas) and went to MV30. Hadn't been there for maybe a year. Used to have 2 bar areas. One with a big U-shaped bar, usually loud music, and the occasional garota dancing on the bar (there was a pole). The other room had a dark wood bar, and was quieter. Now they've closed and shuttered up the first room, moved the reception around, and left only the 2nd room with the dark wood bar. Remodeled it a bit. Put a pole at the end, new couches. They don't let people smoke in it, which is nice. But boy was the blaring Funk loud. (The lyrics are hilarious!"I'm grinding my ass on your cock! I'm going to grind my ass on your cock!"). R$30 entrada buys at least 2 beers. Can use a robe or stay in street clothes. Had say 2-3 thinner, decent girls including a gorgeous tall, thin black girl with cornrows. Yum. Never done the deed at MV30 so can't comment on room quality. Check Bubba's guide for more info. Worth another visit.

Made it back to the other side of Vargas in time to head to 4x4. Whiskeria, actually. Was packed with Brazilians. R$50 entrada put towards consumption. Reasonable number of girls filtering through buy my lordy they were big-butt, thick, even downright fat. Not my type at all. Always have this issue at 4x4. Older too, it seemed.

My sense is that quality is in short supply at present. Not sure if it will change with summer coming. The scene is definitely worse for wear.

-Cartman

Torgoch
11-24-12, 12:04
Back from a Centro trip. Hit 502 to start. Walked over to "the dark side" (the other side of Presidente Vargas) and went to MV30. Never done the deed at MV30 so can't comment on room quality. Check Bubba's guide for more info. Worth another visit.Back in Bundaland (my name for Rio) for 9 days. Although I like the term Rio de Dinheiro LOL!

First port of call after arriving was MV30 last night. This termas has become one of my regular haunts as I have found quite a few nice girls and they seem (to me at least) on the whole to be less pushy and more friendly than 4x4 (my other centro haunt). Actually MV30 has a lot more girls than it did when I first stating going 2 years ago. More girls and less space! The quiet bar (which had some nice secluded and dark corners to "warm up" before "showtime") was taken out last year. I had assumed that they had put in more rooms but apparently it is now offices!

There are a range of girls / body types from matchstick thin to "you must be joking", tall / slim, bundas etc etc.

My main reason for going to MV30 is Renata. A pretty blonde, good (not huge) butt and enormous melons. I rush in MV30 only to find that she's left the business and now works in a shop in a small town near Petropolis. WTF! I have her mobile so I will try getting in contact with her next week. Anyway, all was not lost as another pretty blond. Ohana.came and sat down to talk. The first thing she says is that Renata doesn't work anymore (without me asking) , she remembered me and that she was Renata's cousin. I also remembered her as I had spoken to her in 2010. I use a mental filing system to remember garotas and she was "Ohana, from Vitoria, very pretty, great ass". Anyway, we chat and make out for about 40 minutes and then head off to the room for an hour. It was very good. Great BJ. 69, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggie. Did I mention doggie? Meu deus! I left that too late in the hour. What a butt!. Next time we'll start up where we ended up. Overall she was very pretty, very carinhoso, pretty good sized natural tits, large (but not huge) butt, nice and firm, round. Boys, when she bends over shorty will stand to attention!

Rooms. I would say the rooms in MV30 are no worse / better than 4x4.

Girls. Greater selection than before. If you like big butts then try Viviane. Great girl and great ass. Other girls who get great reviews on the Brazilian sites are Gabi (I've spoken to her but not sessioned, she is in her 30's but gets great reviews) and a girl called Sheila (who I looked out for last night but didn't see / meet; she is getting great reviews on hotforum at the moment).

Downside. The music in the bar. Too loud man. Cost-wise it is catching up with 4x4, it used to be cheaper (even when factoring in the waived entrance at 4x4 fior an early session).

Cost = RS245 all in. 2 waters for me, drink for ohana and 1 hour session.

I'll maybe try 502 next week . I've been disappointed there ever since Darlene left in 2009. Maybe I go at the wrong time or wrong day but either the place is dead or there never seems to be anything worth doing there. Also next week, another workout with lavinia / liliane at 4x4 is top of the list!

FlyMaster
11-24-12, 16:43
Because you can't get a VISA without a plane ticket. It's good for 10 years, you can always buy a full priced ticket that can be refunded, get your VISA and then refund the ticket.Agreed.

Best would be though to make a reservation using miles or maybe even just put a reservation on hold (I'm pretty sure the consulate / embassy will not check up if it is actually ticketed). Refundable Tickets can be pricey and refunds take a long time. So prepare to be out of 2-3 Grand for a month or two before you see your $$ again. The airlines take their sweet ass time.

Salbaggio
11-24-12, 16:48
Had this lovely honey a couple of times in May. She's a hardbody and loves to take it in the bunda! Enjoy.Nothing special, like most of the brasileiras "ugly face big ass"I wouldn't give her more than 30 reais for anal, even that is too much. The best woman I've ever had was a strong pure white (cavalona) , who worked at BA 85, and she was also my neighbour, lived in the same building where I was staying. She was also ugly, but her body was perfect and her service excellent, she treated everybody the same brasileiros, gringos whatever, and was very popular among brasileiros in that building, probably in whole centro, and the other women when they see that you're gringo always try to cheat on you, get some more money, or still your time whatever. I don't think that many gringos fucked with her, because she was older over 30, that time. I don't want to write her name, because, she always cared much about discretion, and I also know her boyfriend. That's the only women down there, that I would like to repeat, but it seems I'll never meet her again.

Sperto
11-24-12, 20:58
Had this lovely honey a couple of times in May. She's a hardbody and loves to take it in the bunda! Enjoy.Am I the only one that hasn't tried Rayssa yet?

Salbaggio is complaining about information her and history under that name only 3 posts! I recommend "ignoring" his posts for he's suspect!Salbaggio aka VilaMimosa aka Strangero.
Another hateful gringo that got burnt by brasileiras.

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11-24-12, 21:40
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Mongmann
11-24-12, 22:49
Fellas I'm considering a quick 3 day trip for new years. Has anyone thats been. In Rio for new years shed light. I just don't want to get down there and find out everything is closed for 3 days or something like that. Its either going to be Rio or Sosua for new years.

Eric Cartman
11-25-12, 01:48
Fellas I'm considering a quick 3 day trip for new years. Has anyone thats been. In Rio for new years shed light. I just don't want to get down there and find out everything is closed for 3 days or something like that. Its either going to be Rio or Sosua for new years.I'd expect the T's to be closed on 31st / 1st. 30th is a Sunday so you're hosed then anyway. 2nd might have some things open but I'd expect fewer staff at best.

Mangera
11-25-12, 02:59
Mangera & other members who had problems accessing GPGuia from the US. I am in Sao Paulo right now and can confirm that GPGuia is up & running. However you still need to log in using your registered GPGuia username in order to browse the posts in the Massagems & Prives sections. The acompanhantes section however is wide open and do not require you to log in! I normally use GPGuia for Sao Paulo only but might try to get intel on Rio as well this trip.I am in Costa Rica right now, I also can not get access to the GP Guia website. Interesting.

Poucolouco
11-25-12, 03:14
I am in Costa Rica right now, I also can not get access to the GP Guia website. Interesting.If you want to access Gpguia from outside of Brasil you will need to use a Brasil Proxy server. Xroxy. Com has a list of open Brasilian proxy servers from which to choose:

http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-country-BR.htm

Mongmann
11-25-12, 03:53
I'd expect the T's to be closed on 31st / 1st. 30th is a Sunday so you're hosed then anyway. 2nd might have some things open but I'd expect fewer staff at best.thanks I kinda figured that was possible. Glad I checked. No dice!

Mongmann
11-25-12, 04:09
I'm so glad that I'm not in Brazil right no because I'm hitting London on Tues where I can Bang a hottie with BBBJ and Completa every night for ½ the cost of Termas in my hotel room.
I know a madam in London and guess what. Tonight was my first night in London. I paid UK120 pounds for a 5 8" super hot blond whos 19 years old for a programma, BBBJ and anal. She was so freakin hot that she's gona meet me after my Sat night party in stretford London. F* Brazilian pricks. I'm havin a world class time with world class chiks. I'm a self made millionaire and tonight I felt like hittin London 007 style like Sean Connery. Brazil is done even tho I will be there in 6 weeks but they can't provide me as much fun as London chiks. I'm schedule to bang a 5 9" 19 yrs old czek republican model includin anal tom night. Good luck with Brazil.Oh my mistake, I thought you said you were banging hotties in London for HALF the cost of a terma. By my math (which could very well be wrong) 120 GBP = just about 400BRL. So I guess instead of paying half you meant you're paying nearly TWICE the costs of a terma. I've never paid more than 200BRL for a freelancer and my all time high in a terma was somewhere around 310BRL. I must say you're getting some really great deals in London! I think I'll pass them for now. Have fun!

Mongmann
11-25-12, 04:29
Salbaggio is complaining about information her and history under that name only 3 posts! I recommend "ignoring" his posts for he's suspect!Done. Great idea.

Mexidan
11-25-12, 06:44
Because you can't get a VISA without a plane ticket. It's good for 10 years, you can always buy a full priced ticket that can be refunded, get your VISA and then refund the ticket.In theory this is true. At the top end it is good for 10 years if the local office approves it for that long. It varies from Consulate / Embassy to Consulate / Embassy.

Regarding the buy & refund of the airline ticket, keep in mind that you have to get your first trip under the visa within a designated period of time (I think its 30 or 90 days, but I haven't been around in a while). Don't buy the visa if you do not plan on attending soon.

Salbaggio
11-25-12, 17:05
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Jose Cuervo
11-26-12, 14:07
If you want to access Gpguia from outside of Brasil you will need to use a Brasil Proxy server. Xroxy. Com has a list of open Brasilian proxy servers from which to choose:

http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-country-BR.htmThanks, buddy.

It works for me (I'm in Europe now). For those of you who, like me, needs a proxy for accessing GPGuia only and uses Google Chrome as a browser, there is Switch Proxy Google Chrome extension.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search/switch proxy

It allows turning proxy on / off in Google Chrome with single click.

Exec Talent
11-26-12, 15:20
Thanks, buddy.

It works for me (I'm in Europe now). For those of you who, like me, needs a proxy for accessing GPGuia only and uses Google Chrome as a browser, there is Switch Proxy Google Chrome extension.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search/switch proxy

It allows turning proxy on / off in Google Chrome with single click.For those who are in Brazil for extended periods, you may want to consider purchasing their premium service which is only $7 a month. They even have a free 3-day trial. I have used their premium services a number of times and always with good results.

Nyc621
11-26-12, 19:03
Fellas I arrived in Rio last Thursday and I'm going to pitch in my few centavos, granted a lot of my haunts were restricted to copacabana and the tier 1 joints. Thursday night I hit centaurus and was charged 530 reails. It was an amazing experience, Friday I went to Monte Carlo and had an even better time than I did at centaurus, however, I must say MC has far fewer ladies but, you can still find top quality women there. The problem is because it has fewer women sometimes guys will hog and keep some of the better ones at their sides for extended periods of time. Saturday I hit barbarellas and I was greatly dissappointed by the whole atmosphere. It may work for some cats but it just didn't cut the mustard for me. It was way too dark and it didn't help that I was corralled by the two least attractive women in the joint as soon as I was escorted to my table. Not to mention that I got attitude for refusing to buy redbull for them. Balcony was a saving grace that night, which I went to again on Sunday night. I did however end up at kalabria which is right next to bacony, perpendicular to ave atlantica. It was actually better than I expected. Got one for 350 all night and couldn't get rid of her the next morning. Her initial asking price was 600. Tonight is my last night and my plan is to splurge one last time and session at centaurus and MC and try to have one come back to my apartment. I'll post pics soon. And just for the record, the quality at balcony was a lot better than it was last time I was in town. I have a few numbers and will gladly share the through the pmMy only regret was barbarellas. Don't get me wrong, there were some fine looking ladies in there but the unactractive sharks kinda spoiled it for me.

Nyc621
11-26-12, 19:15
Fellas I arrived last Thursday and have had a blast. Thursday night I hit centaurus and balcony. Centaurus hit me for 530 reals. Friday night I went to monte carlo and had a blast. The higher price for drinks at mc kinda balanced the price out with centaurus. I did however make the mistake of going to barbarellas on Saturday night, horrible decision. I was corralled by the two least attractive chicks in the joint as soon as I sat down, don't get me wrong there were some stunners in there but because I had two uninvited women at my table I was not able to get to them. Balcony was a savior that night and what was even more surprising was kalabria which is next to balcony and perpendicular to ave atlantica. Got one for 350 all night after initially asking for 600. Tonight is my last night and I'll post pics soon. The quality at balcony is a lot better than it was last time I was in town and my only regret is of course barbarellas

Rahsta
11-27-12, 05:36
But at 39 peso per 1 US v. 2.3 reais per 1 US. I go no higher. I do the fucking the girls don't. I also get what I want in Sosua. Plus I stay at a nice hotel in Sosua for $65 US a night with breakfast, where in Rio the same is equal to $100 US a night.Alot of those chicas in DR can't take dick. I don't like that starfish routine those DR chicas do.

Rahsta
11-27-12, 05:45
I hear you. Thing is I don't necessarily like doing all the work when I'm paying. I can beat my own meat at home and do all the work. I'm in this for the kick ass experience not for a chick that I do all the work with. Last time I was in Rio I literally got a 45 min BJ from a chick at my apt. In Sosua most of the girls are too lazy to even do half of that. They'll be complaining,"papi, papi" before too long. There is a difference of about $50 BTW a pick up off the streets of Rio (I pay 200 BRL) and the streets in sosua. Obviously the termas are more expensive. In my humble opinion the service in Rio kicks the crap out of Sosua on it's worse day.Exactly, Those DR chicks are real lazy. After five pumps they are asking you do you leche and they start complaining after 10 min saying you are taking too long. DR chick cannot compare to Brazil chicks.

There is no comparison.

The Cane
11-27-12, 12:15
I did however make the mistake of going to barbarellas on Saturday night, horrible decision. I was corralled by the two least attractive chicks in the joint as soon as I sat down, don't get me wrong there were some stunners in there but because I had two uninvited women at my table I was not able to get to them. The quality at balcony is a lot better than it was last time I was in town and my only regret is of course barbarellasYou're the one in charge, not the tutes! You corral them, not the other way around. Somebody you don't want trying to dominate your time and attention? Tell them you're not interested. Disengage and they will go away. I guarantee it. And in the event that they don't, then you get up and you walk away and step to the ones you want to be with. It is your vacation, so you take charge and get what you want! Never ever feel trapped or obligated to sit with the "uglies" trying to cock block you from getting with the gems in the house.

Torgoch
11-27-12, 12:45
I'm enjoying Rio, it is just a shame that fun has be fitted in around work. Still it pays for me to get here. I went to 4x4 yesterday anticipating a deep grind with Lavinia (aka liliane). As I walked in the Boite, she walked out with a guy, off upstairs. Bummer! We made eye contact and I smiled and said hi etc but she looked straight at and through me and ignored me, which I found a bit off since I've known her for 2 years. Oh well, I couldn't wait an hour for her to come backl so I talked to a couple of girls (there were a lot of blondes with big asses) and ended up with Isabella for an hour in the cabine. Isabella was a girl who promised much visually but delivered average performance. Very pretty, sun tanned, long blond hair, smallish rack but great round and firm bunda. The bunda was the saving grace for what was, unfortunately an average performance in the end. Very unenergetic and disinterested (mind you, not many girls can compare with lavinia IMO). She tried the time-wasting tricks of wanting a shower as soon as she walked in the cabine and tried to convince me that we had paid for 40 minutes (and so stop early) when I had paid for an hour. Not a great performance so I would give her a miss guys.

Cost for one hour R$260 (cost has gone up since I was last here? I thought it was 240) , water for me R$5, beer for her R$11.

For some reason with the Veta Dilma rally on Rio Branco the door to the boate was closed, but you could still walk in the whiskeria and then get upstairs via the stairs the girls use.

Also, when I paid my R$276 bill (giving R$300) the girl at the counter took out a R$20 note and asked me if I wanted to give her a little present. So watch out, the asking for tips for having donme nothing may be back

Jan 156
11-27-12, 16:31
Also, when I paid my R$276 bill (giving R$300) the girl at the counter took out a R$20 note and asked me if I wanted to give her a little present. So watch out, the asking for tips for having donme nothing may be backQuite. But I just smile beautifully and say it's all I have for my taxi hehe.

I hate paying over the odds. But foreigners are also becoming known for being money-obsessed, which is a bit rude. It's no longer a 'third world country' (at least in their city eyes). And it's the Brasilian way to always be sweet and charming. Before and after business. Hehe. A genuine warm smile goes further than giving them unearned extra money.

Torgoch
11-27-12, 16:39
Quite. But I just smile beautifully and say it's all I have for my taxi hehe.

I hate paying over the odds. But foreigners are also becoming known for being money-obsessed, which is a bit rude. It's no longer a 'third world country' (at least in their city eyes). And it's the Brasilian way to always be sweet and charming. Before and after business. Hehe. A genuine warm smile goes further than giving them unearned extra money.In fact all I did was smile and say no.

Rahsta
11-27-12, 20:32
Fellas I arrived in Rio last Thursday and I'm going to pitch in my few centavos, granted a lot of my haunts were restricted to copacabana and the tier 1 joints. Thursday night I hit centaurus and was charged 530 reails. It was an amazing experience, Friday I went to Monte Carlo and had an even better time than I did at centaurus, however, I must say MC has far fewer ladies but, you can still find top quality women there. The problem is because it has fewer women sometimes guys will hog and keep some of the better ones at their sides for extended periods of time. Saturday I hit barbarellas and I was greatly dissappointed by the whole atmosphere. It may work for some cats but it just didn't cut the mustard for me. It was way too dark and it didn't help that I was corralled by the two least attractive women in the joint as soon as I was escorted to my table. Not to mention that I got attitude for refusing to buy redbull for them. Balcony was a saving grace that night, which I went to again on Sunday night. I did however end up at kalabria which is right next to bacony, perpendicular to ave atlantica. It was actually better than I expected. Got one for 350 all night and couldn't get rid of her the next morning. Her initial asking price was 600. Tonight is my last night and my plan is to splurge one last time and session at centaurus and MC and try to have one come back to my apartment. I'll post pics soon. And just for the record, the quality at balcony was a lot better than it was last time I was in town. I have a few numbers and will gladly share the through the pmMy only regret was barbarellas. Don't get me wrong, there were some fine looking ladies in there but the unactractive sharks kinda spoiled it for me.350 is too much. The girls at kalabria are the same ones that be at the balcony. My wingman and I just camw back from Rio in Sept and we paid 200 reals for all nighters. We pulled girls out of theBalcony pretty much every night.

Sobaje
11-28-12, 00:40
Hey guys this will be my first time in Rio and I have some questions.

Is there pick up action in the beaches like Cartagena?

Is there clubs like tu candela / fragma from Cartagena or classicos from sosua where there is a mix of pros semis and non pros?

Is there a restaurant like Riquisimos from Cartagena whe you find good local food a good price?

Thanks in advance

Eric Cartman
11-28-12, 03:07
Hey guys this will be my first time in Rio and I have some questions.

Is there pick up action in the beaches like Cartagena?

Is there clubs like tu candela / fragma from Cartagena or classicos from sosua where there is a mix of pros semis and non pros?

Is there a restaurant like Riquisimos from Cartagena whe you find good local food a good price?

Thanks in advanceRead the Bubbaboy guide. It has its own thread in the main Brazil section.

Eric Cartman
11-28-12, 03:11
Also, when I paid my R$276 bill (giving R$300) the girl at the counter took out a R$20 note and asked me if I wanted to give her a little present. So watch out, the asking for tips for having donme nothing may be backIt's also that time of year when the tip boxes come out for Christmas."Caixinha de Natal" as it's called. There's the payola angle. Like having to "tip" your porteiros at your apartment building (probably at least R$100 each, maybe more, so they don't bone you the rest of the year. So x5, that's R$500-R$1000). Then there's the straight up extortion, from say COMLURB guys who live on your street or in your building and basically just hit you up for cash with an implied threat. And then there's the people you may actually want to tip, like the guys at the corner suco stand you eat at at least 2x-3x per week, know your order, and give you relatively good service. Or the cleaning woman who comes 2x / week and deals with your filth, LOL.

Anyway, between now and New Year's, it's on.

Bad Boy Billy
11-29-12, 04:02
Is there clubs like classicos from sosua where there is a mix of pros semis and non pros?There are non-pros in Classicos? I would love to see one!

Bubba Boy
11-29-12, 17:21
Then there's the straight up extortion, from say COMLURB guys who live on your street or in your building and basically just hit you up for cash with an implied threatdon't pay this asshole this year, what is he going to do? Throw rubbish at you? I would just walk away from him saying something like "eu nao posso este ano".

BTW, I don't log into this site much anymore, hence the unanswered PM's. Elvis has left the building so to speak!

Almotu
11-29-12, 17:39
BTW, I don't log into this site much anymore, hence the unanswered PM's. Elvis has left the building so to speak!Sorry to hear, but can be totally understandable. All your hard work is often taken for granted. Your contribution to this community can NEVER be OVERSTATED. Thanks so much for all the knowledge that you have passed onto us. I am pretty sure there are many guys out here who feels the same.

Java Man
12-01-12, 09:58
It's also that time of year when the tip boxes come out for Christmas."Caixinha de Natal" as it's called. There's the payola angle. Like having to "tip" your porteiros at your apartment building (probably at least R$100 each, maybe more, so they don't bone you the rest of the year. So x5, that's R$500-R$1000). Then there's the straight up extortion, from say COMLURB guys who live on your street or in your building and basically just hit you up for cash with an implied threat. And then there's the people you may actually want to tip, like the guys at the corner suco stand you eat at at least 2x-3x per week, know your order, and give you relatively good service. Or the cleaning woman who comes 2x / week and deals with your filth, LOL.

Anyway, between now and New Year's, it's on.Funny that you mentioned the COMLURB guys. Two fake garis, (garbage men) were arrested yesterday in Tijuca, asking for donations to their Christmas fund:

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/policia-prende-falsos-garis-aplicando-golpe-em-comerciantes-na-tijuca-6872504

If you can read Porto, checkout the comments section.

Sperto
12-01-12, 10:19
XL-sized GP's fighting outside Balcony.

http://n1news.com.br/copacabana-nao-e-so-glamour-como-nas-novelas.html

No wonder the locals want to get rid of Balcony.

Bravo
12-01-12, 13:53
XL-sized GP's fighting outside Balcony.

http://n1news.com.br/copacabana-nao-e-so-glamour-como-nas-novelas.html

No wonder the locals want to get rid of Balcony.Looks like it was a man who gave her the initial pimp slap. I will say the big blond girl must have studied some of Anderson Silva's tapes, she had some nice knee techniques. Hoes fighting is nothing new. It used to happen weekly at Meia Pataca and I can't tell you how many times I have seen it inside of Help. When tourists are scarce and money is low, the girls start to rumble over customers.

Poucolouco
12-01-12, 18:36
Looks like it was a man who gave her the initial pimp slap. I will say the big blond girl must have studied some of Anderson Silva's tapes, she had some nice knee techniques. Hoes fighting is nothing new. It used to happen weekly at Meia Pataca and I can't tell you how many times I have seen it inside of Help. When tourists are scarce and money is low, the girls start to rumble over customers.Actually, a lot of the fights are over girl shit, (eg she said that you said that I said, etc.) The low life putas are just more prone to get physical about small stuff.

Ipanema Carioca
12-01-12, 18:38
Does anyone know about this recent raid in Niteroi?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obr_nJzZtAI

Mr Enternational
12-01-12, 19:25
Does anyone know about this recent raid in Niteroi?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obr_nJzZtAII don't know but that mf looks like New Jack City.

Ipanema Carioca
12-01-12, 19:45
I don't know but that mf looks like New Jack City.That is NJC. It's the 3rd raid this year. LOL!

Sperto
12-01-12, 20:19
Does anyone know about this recent raid in Niteroi?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obr_nJzZtAIIt was the almost 3 weeks ago.

BTW, funny pricing. They don't like customers going for 40 min?

Poucolouco
12-01-12, 20:49
Does anyone know about this recent raid in Niteroi?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obr_nJzZtAII can't help but think about the dude in sala 110 when they knocked on his door."Hey, I paid for an hour and it's only been 20 minutes. What the fuh." •.

Carlos3000
12-01-12, 20:54
Does anyone know about this recent raid in Niteroi?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obr_nJzZtAIThis is just ridiculous. If a man cannot enjoy himself with a programa in Rio without being harrased, what is this world coming to. So they want to turn Rio into New York City post Guliani. Good luck to them.

Sperto
12-01-12, 22:36
This is just ridiculous. If a man cannot enjoy himself with a programa in Rio without being harrased, what is this world coming to. So they want to turn Rio into New York City post Guliani. Good luck to them.It's not ridiculous at all. They found 2 minors.

Mangera
12-02-12, 04:29
I can understand why the gov. Would be interested in changing the image of locations that are heavily visted by tourists, such as copa and zona sul in general. However, if they are going to be raiding other areas that are mainly visited by locals. Now one has to be really cautious. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the comming months and year. One has to look for a patterns and see what the story is. Could you imagine if they start raiding Centro? Now that would really grab my attention and leave me shocked. Hopefully that will never be the case.

Sperto
12-02-12, 08:38
I can understand why the gov. Would be interested in changing the image of locations that are heavily visted by tourists, such as copa and zona sul in general. However, if they are going to be raiding other areas that are mainly visited by locals. Now one has to be really cautious. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the comming months and year. One has to look for a patterns and see what the story is. Could you imagine if they start raiding Centro? Now that would really grab my attention and leave me shocked. Hopefully that will never be the case.Raids in centro casas and VM also occurs occasionally. The reasons may be drugs, minors, unpayed bribes, complaints from neighbours or political showoffs.
Casas getting closed down or moving to a new address happens every now and then.

The background to the Niteroi raid was that the police was investigating the murder of a football player who had sex with two GPs working at the 'Prédio the CEF'.
The police propably knew that there were minors working at the puteiro. They should know as their collegaues were working as security in the casa. ;)
http://jornal.ofluminense.com.br/editorias/policia/operacao-de-combate-exploracao-sexual-no-centro

OldAsiaHand
12-02-12, 16:24
I am newbie to Rio but not a newbie to ISG or mongering. I have read a big chunk of the Rio thread and Bubba's Guide (excellent report BTW; Thanks Bubba).

I have read and been told that the 5-star hotels on Copacabana are not girl friendly at all. My question: Is this policy absoulutely set in stone? I want to use my points at the Marriott for free nights. Is there any way I can bring girls in? Or, as a second option, are there safe ST motels in the area to use at a reasonable price? Is it safe to go to the girls' places or another place that she recommends? I will try the thermas but I do not want to limit myself to just this experience.

Thanks.

OAH

Rio Bob
12-02-12, 17:14
I am newbie to Rio but not a newbie to ISG or mongering. I have read a big chunk of the Rio thread and Bubba's Guide (excellent report BTW; Thanks Bubba).

I have read and been told that the 5-star hotels on Copacabana are not girl friendly at all. My question: Is this policy absoulutely set in stone? I want to use my points at the Marriott for free nights. Is there any way I can bring girls in? Or, as a second option, are there safe ST motels in the area to use at a reasonable price? Is it safe to go to the girls' places or another place that she recommends? I will try the thermas but I do not want to limit myself to just this experience.

Thanks.

OAHMost 5 star hotels don't allow girls in but history about the Marriott is that they do. But things can change, what you'll have to do is when you bring your girl in just register her at the front desk and you should be good to go.

Exoticspirit
12-02-12, 17:33
Just wondering how loud (music) are the rooms at the termas once you get in? I haven't been to Brazil yet but similar establishments in other countries where it's a bar downstairs and rooms upstairs or in the back don't seem to gel with me if the music is still blasting all the way to the rooms.

Bravo
12-03-12, 00:44
Music and noise should not be loud enough to distract you in the major termas. Plus, most of the rooms have their own radio / sound sytem inside, so you can just turn up your own music.

Poucolouco
12-03-12, 01:15
Just wondering how loud (music) are the rooms at the termas once you get in? I haven't been to Brazil yet but similar establishments in other countries where it's a bar downstairs and rooms upstairs or in the back don't seem to gel with me if the music is still blasting all the way to the rooms.Rather than loud music, you are more likely to hear noises from the neighboring cabine, eg "Aee caralho aee porha aee aee aee.".

UMadBro
12-03-12, 02:12
I am newbie to Rio but not a newbie to ISG or mongering. I have read a big chunk of the Rio thread and Bubba's Guide (excellent report BTW; Thanks Bubba).

I have read and been told that the 5-star hotels on Copacabana are not girl friendly at all. My question: Is this policy absoulutely set in stone? I want to use my points at the Marriott for free nights. Is there any way I can bring girls in? Or, as a second option, are there safe ST motels in the area to use at a reasonable price? Is it safe to go to the girls' places or another place that she recommends? I will try the thermas but I do not want to limit myself to just this experience.

Thanks,

OAHI stayed at the jw marriot last year and had no problem bringing a girl up to my room. Nice hotel by the way but definetly not worth the $600+ per night. I'm assuming.

Its that expensive because its an american chain company. A hotel like that here in the states is probably like 160 a night. LOL! Can't wait to get down there again in January

OldAsiaHand
12-03-12, 05:07
Most 5 star hotels don't allow girls in but history about the Marriott is that they do. But things can change, what you'll have to do is when you bring your girl in just register her at the front desk and you should be good to go.Sangue Bon,

Thanks for the info. Let's hope things have not changed for the worse.

OAH

Sobaje
12-04-12, 00:31
Anyone has any intel on this cutie?

http://www.dudamassagem.com.br/duda/

Ipanema Carioca
12-04-12, 01:53
Anyone has any intel on this cutie?

http://www.dudamassagem.com.br/duda/Yes I can! I plan to bring her the US and marry, then buy us a house in Washington DC like the rest of the DC simps there. I plan to make a hoe into a house wife!

Rock Harders
12-04-12, 04:10
Yes I can! I plan to bring her the US and marry, then buy us a house in Washington DC like the rest of the DC simps there. I plan to make a hoe into a house wife!With an ass like that, who can blame you? LOL

Sobaje
12-04-12, 04:24
With an ass like that, who can blame you? LOLI emailed her asking her for deets about her "talent" and she wants 500 R for 2 hours ha!

Sobaje
12-04-12, 04:27
Yes I can! I plan to bring her the US and marry, then buy us a house in Washington DC like the rest of the DC simps there. I plan to make a hoe into a house wife!You are such a romantico

Rio Bob
12-05-12, 00:54
Sangue Bon,

Thanks for the info. Let's hope things have not changed for the worse.

OAHI was just there in October, was sitting at the pool with a friend of mine and he got a call from a GDP, she said she was in Copa. He said I am on top of the Marriott why don't you stop by? 15 minutes later she called him from the lobby, he went downstairs and escorted her up to the pool area, nobody asked him a thing, she spent the afternoon with us. She had jeans on, a Morena and works Monday's in Niteroi of all places, so she was no lily white Patrician, yet she got through without question.

LuvnLatinas
12-06-12, 15:58
A word of warning using the atm's at Banco do Brasil, Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana. 749. I just got word from my bank about "irregular" activity on my card. Yep, somehow someone was able to clone it and used it 2 weeks after I left Rio. How do I know where it got cloned? I used my card at this branch only, during the day when the security guy was there, and it was always in my possession. I even physically checked the card readers before using them. Don't know what else I could have done to protect the card.

The clone was used at a "building and materials store". My bank told me Brasil is rated "high risk" for this kind of fraud.

Voyajer1
12-07-12, 14:44
I recommend to anyone traveling to Brazil, especially Rio de Janeiro, to never use ATM cards in Copacabana. I've had the same crap happen to me twice! Ever since, I began using the bamks in Centro: More people, a lot less tourists. For the last 3 years, so far, so good.

The perpetrator of the cloning is someone on the inside of the bank as I have been alerted by my bamk's investigators. These so called "Bankers" get your pin codes from the video from the ATM area. If they are not using skimmers, it is easy to get your pin code if you are not covering your hand as you enter your pin.

My bank never told me what happened to the thief who got my information (They have him on film!) , but I hope the bastard got fired and sent to jail after they realized what the insider was doing. I seriously doubt he got in any trouble and the asshole may have got promoted from the theft!


A word of warning using the atm's at Banco do Brasil, Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana. 749. I just got word from my bank about "irregular" activity on my card. Yep, somehow someone was able to clone it and used it 2 weeks after I left Rio. How do I know where it got cloned? I used my card at this branch only, during the day when the security guy was there, and it was always in my possession. I even physically checked the card readers before using them. Don't know what else I could have done to protect the card.

The clone was used at a "building and materials store". My bank told me Brasil is rated "high risk" for this kind of fraud.

Mongmann
12-08-12, 01:36
I recommend to anyone traveling to Brazil, especially Rio de Janeiro, to never use ATM cards in Copacabana. I've had the same crap happen to me twice! Ever since, I began using the bamks in Centro: More people, a lot less tourists. For the last 3 years, so far, so good.

The perpetrator of the cloning is someone on the inside of the bank as I have been alerted by my bamk's investigators. These so called "Bankers" get your pin codes from the video from the ATM area. If they are not using skimmers, it is easy to get your pin code if you are not covering your hand as you enter your pin.

My bank never told me what happened to the thief who got my information (They have him on film!) , but I hope the bastard got fired and sent to jail after they realized what the insider was doing. I seriously doubt he got in any trouble and the asshole may have got promoted from the theft!Here's something I do. I have a checking acct that I have just for international travel. I have another acct with the same bank but the accts are not linked. I keep about $20to in the "travel" acct. If I need to withdrawl cash I transfer the funds into the travel acct and get it out immediately. This way in the case that my card is compromised there's no. Oney in the acct other than the $20 bucks I keep in there.

OldAsiaHand
12-08-12, 05:50
A word of warning using the atm's at Banco do Brasil, Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana. 749. I just got word from my bank about "irregular" activity on my card. Yep, somehow someone was able to clone it and used it 2 weeks after I left Rio. How do I know where it got cloned? I used my card at this branch only, during the day when the security guy was there, and it was always in my possession. I even physically checked the card readers before using them. Don't know what else I could have done to protect the card.

The clone was used at a "building and materials store". My bank told me Brasil is rated "high risk" for this kind of fraud.When this happens, who loses the money? You, your bank or the bank in Brasil?

LuvnLatinas
12-08-12, 12:44
When this happens, who loses the money? You, your bank or the bank in Brasil?No idea, my bank will send me paperwork to fill out and return, then about 3 months later the money will be returned to my account.

I know when I used my card to purchase a dvd player I had to show I'd. I would think for purchases for the amounts they made they would be showing the store some form of I'd. The cloned card was actually used in Sao Paulo and I haven't been there in a few years.

G Luva
12-13-12, 01:05
Are any termas open on Sunday? Monte Carlos website say they open at 4.

I need something to do on Sunday.

Bravo
12-13-12, 17:56
I haven't been to brazil in a little over 1. 5 years. I just wasn't getting the ROI that I was expecting. The money that I was spending was not equal to the amount of fun that I was having. On my last trip, it was so bad, that it actually got to the point where I thought about leaving mid-way thru my 10 day trip and going back home. After all this time, I finally decided to give Rio another shot and I have been looking online to rent an apartment for a March 2013 trip! Holy Shit!

I went on Google and looked at the top five apartment rental agencies; (I know its against the rules to post up websites on this board, so I won't do it). I could not believe what I saw. Not only are the prices for apartments freaking ridiculous, they are now charging you money for shit that used to be free! I couldn't believe what I saw! What the hell is going on? Here is a list of a few of the things that I saw.

1) Electricity and Gas. Some of these websites have the nerve to want to charge you between 20-30 dollars a night for Electricity usage! One website wanted to charge me 20 dollars a night in addition to the 90 dollars a night apartment fee! Since when do mongers have to pay an electricity bill for a 9 day vacation?

2) Cleaning fee – These guys are charging a 30-60 dollar fee in order to clean your apartment! For years, I would always have my apartment cleaned twice during my 10 day stays, for no charge. There really wouldn't be much for the maid to do, take out the garbage, sweep and mop the bathroom and change the sheets. Less than 15 minutes of work!

3) Laundry Fee- These assholes want to charge a 30 dollar laundry fee. Since when is washing my sheets and towels not considered cleaning? Why would I pay a cleaning fee, if washing sheets was not included? And since when does it cost 30 bucks to wash 1 set of sheets and 4 towels? Despicable!

The last one is the biggest rip off that I have ever seen. I was so insulted after seeing it that I am seriously thinking of not returning to Copa until after the Olympics!

4) A Booking fee – The websites wanted to charge me 30 dollars to reserve an apartment. Unbelievable! That is the equivalent of me going to a grocery store, gathering all the things I need and then the manager telling me 'You have to pay the cashier 30 dollars for her to ring up your food! ' So in addition to paying for the food, I have to pay an additional 30 bucks for the cashier to do her job!

Is it really this bad now? Do I just have bad luck that the first 5 websites I saw were complete ripoffs? Please tell me apartment renting in Copa isn't this terrible.

Sperto
12-13-12, 18:29
I went on Google and looked at the top five apartment rental agencies; (I know its against the rules to post up websites on this board, so I won't do it). I could not believe what I saw. Not only are the prices for apartments freaking ridiculous, they are now charging you money for shit that used to be free! I couldn't believe what I saw! What the hell is going on?I never used an agency to rent an apartment, but the fees really sounds weird. I always use personal contacts and that works excellent without any BS.

Christopherd mentioned Airbnb. I havn't tried the site but I heard from friends that you can get really good deals.

Bravo
12-13-12, 18:42
I never used an agency to rent an apartment, but the fees really sounds weird. I always use personal contacts and that works excellent without any BS.I had been renting faithfully from the same guy for about 15 years now. 15 years. 5-6 trips a year! However, on the last trip we had a problem. He sat down and said "Bravo, you know the prices for aparmtents in Copa have gone up alot in the past year. Ever since we won the Olympics, prices have gone thru the roof." I looked at him and said "yeah, I know. But I have been a loyal customer for 15 years, so I know you won't charge me the same amount you charge the other tourists." I thought he would charge me an extra 5-10 dollars a night on my 50 dollar apartment. This asshole jacked up his price by 50% I couldn't believe it!

Now he wanted 75 bucks a night for a small ass 1 bedroom apartment that was 2 blocks from the beach! No cable tv and no internet! I started thinking "Ok dickhead, you want to treat me like a regular customer? Well, then I will treat you like a regular apartment rental. If I am going to pay $75 a night, the apartment better have cable and internet! You can't charge the same price as other places if you don't provide the same amentities!" So I vowed to start looking else where to rent my place.

I know I will run into him because he is always walking around Copa nd we constantly see each other. When he asks me where I am staying, I will explain to him that his places do not have cable and internet and it is 2012 and he needs to step up his game.

Mr Enternational
12-13-12, 19:46
But I have been a loyal customer for 15 years, so I know you won't charge me the same amount you charge the other tourists." I thought he would charge me an extra 5-10 dollars a night on my 50 dollar apartment. This asshole jacked up his price by 50% I couldn't believe it!

Now he wanted 75 bucks a night for a small ass 1 bedroom apartment that was 2 blocks from the beach! No cable tv and no internet!Resistance is futile bro. I think you are fighting a losing battle. $75 sounds like a steal in 2012, damn the TV. I haven't seen a place in Copa or anywhere in Rio for less than $100 in about 2 years. Unless you want to see what Brazil Specialist can hook you up with or if EC has a back room you can use. Most of the people I know don't even go down anymore. And the veterans say if they ever do consider going down again then they will more than likely look for a place to stay in Niteroi instead.

Poucolouco
12-13-12, 19:47
I haven't been to brazil in a little over 1. 5 years. I just wasn't getting the ROI that I was expecting. After all this time, I finally decided to give Rio another shot and I have been looking online to rent an apartment for a March 2013 trip! Holy Shit!

1) Electricity and Gas. Some of these websites have the nerve to want to charge you between 20-30 dollars a night for Electricity usage!

2) Cleaning fee – These guys are charging a 30-60 dollar fee in order to clean your apartment!

3) Laundry Fee- These assholes want to charge a 30 dollar laundry fee.

4) A Booking fee – The websites wanted to charge me 30 dollars to reserve an apartment.

Is it really this bad now? Do I just have bad luck that the first 5 websites I saw were complete ripoffs? Please tell me apartment renting in Copa isn't this terrible.Bravo, It's not too bad but don't look for "the olden days." Rents are higher now and will continue to climb in the future. The value of properties in Zona Sul has grown considerably in the past and probably won't level off any time soon. With Carnaval coming early this year, rents should be a bit lower by the end of March but don't expect to find historic rental prices.

1.) It's common practice for apartment renters to charge for utilities as a means to promote energy conservation. Hopefully the renter will not leave the air conditioner running on high with the windows open if he has to pay for his own consumption. However. 30 to 60 dollars is totally unreasonable for a short-term stay. Honest proprietors will record the meter on check-in and check-out and charge a reasonable rate for kWh consumed. Electricity is about R$.58 per kWh in the summer months. In a typical one bedroom unit, consumption should be in the range of R$4, 00 – R$6, 00 per day. Unless you do a lot of cooking, gas consumption should be negligible, maybe R$1, 00 – R$2, 00 per day.

2.) Cleaning fee is pretty standard and should run in the area of R$100 to R$150. However, the fee usually includes the cost of laundry. I wouldn't assume that cleaning is only a quick swab of the broom and mop, a decent cleaning is quite thorough. Note: Cleaning of linens can be costly at times, depending on the cleanliness of the renter and the extent of linens actually used.

3.) Booking fees are not common. They are charged by brokers (corretors) that have no contract with the owner. Sometimes they will inflate the rental price but if they do not have an agreement with the proprietor to charge a higher rent, they will charge a booking fee for their services. You can avoid these guys and deal directly with the owner if you use a site such as HomeAway. Com, Aluguetemporada. Com. Br, Temporadalivre. Com or Aluguelvip. Com. Br

Bravo
12-13-12, 20:00
Resistance is futile bro. I think you are fighting a losing battle. $75 sounds like a steal in 2012, damn the TV. I haven't seen a place in Copa or anywhere in Rio for less than $100 in about 2 years. Unless you want to see what Brazil Specialist can hook you up with or if EC has a back room you can use. Most of the people I know don't even go down anymore. And the veterans say if they ever do consider going down again then they will more than likely look for a place to stay in Niteroi instead.Now that Copa is dead, I would seriously consider staying in Centro! I would save on time and money by being near the termas and clubs. Plus it is easier for the girls hwo live out in the sticks to come to my place in the centro instead of going to Copa. Unfortunately, I do not know of any places where I can rent an apartment in downtown.

Bravo
12-13-12, 20:12
1.) It's common practice for apartment renters to charge for utilities as a means to promote energy conservation. Hopefully the renter will not leave the air conditioner running on high with the windows open if he has to pay for his own consumption.Common? Since when? I have NEVER heard of guys paying for electricity or gas unless they were renting for a month or longer.

Jan 156
12-13-12, 23:18
Now that Copa is dead, I would seriously consider staying in Centro! I would save on time and money by being near the termas and clubs. Plus it is easier for the girls hwo live out in the sticks to come to my place in the centro instead of going to Copa. Unfortunately, I do not know of any places where I can rent an apartment in downtown.Depends on the standards you require. For Western standards, the Ibis is a good bet. The one just off Rua Carioca is ideally placed for just about everything. Last time I stayed in Centro I used a motel north of Vargas. A bit overpriced though. More ideal if you have time is to stay anywhere secure for one night so you have time to look at places. Lots of small hotels in North Centro, mostly a bit run down but cheap. Opposite the Ibis is a Brasileiro hotel that's dirt cheap. There's another Centro Ibis in the south west side of Centro too, but its not quite as handy for everything.

If you like Lapa, there are one or two nice rooms to rent in AirBnB, and still easy few minutes walk to Centro. I quite like staying in Lapa as it has more of a party feel than Centro itself. There are some good value hotels there too.

Golfinho
12-13-12, 23:49
Depends on the standards you require. For Western standards, the Ibis is a good bet. The one just off Rua Carioca is ideally placed for just about everything.It is. This Ibis (formerly Formula 1) on the other side of Largo the Carioca is about 134 USD includes internet. Stayed there the last two nights, quiet, without street noise, good sleeping conditions. Ideal for weeknights in Centro. Also girl friendly. Better than anything comparably priced in Zona Sul. Next door is a Budget Ibis priced I believe about 95 USD, did not see but they said rooms are smaller. You'd have to really look around to find a good older hotel in Centro. No double-paned windows and shabby. Other cheap options around Catete, although some have been revamped recently and no longer priced for low budget people.

Poucolouco
12-14-12, 00:13
Common? Since when? I have NEVER heard of guys paying for electricity or gas unless they were renting for a month or longer.OK, you never paid for utilities in the past. I first encountered it in 2005. Most short-term rentals of less than two weeks include the cost of utilities in the daily rates. You heard of it now as you mentioned in your OP. I only confirmed it and the reason owners are charging it.

Sperto
12-14-12, 06:27
I've read some interesting suggestions on where to stay when going to Rio: Centro, Lapa, Praça da Bandeira and Niteroi.

If the main and sole purpose of your trip is mongering:
* Copacabana: Nothing to offer except Balcony Zoo, Monte Carlo and some shitty strip-clubs.
* Ipanema: Not much to offer in mongering.
* Centro: If you want to stay close to cheap and good mongering Centro is a very good choice. Other advantages with Centro are cheap restaurants, nice after-work bars and clubs for regular night-life. A disadvantage is that some parts of Centro at night are a bit deserted.
* Lapa: All the advantages that Centro has and a great nightlife.
* Praça da Bandeira: Close to VM, Tijuca and Centro, but IMO not a very attractive bairro.
* Niteroi: Cheap mongering. Cheap restaurants and what I heard a good night-life.

Other nice and calm bairros are Glória, Flamengo, Tijuca. A short trip and you're in Centro.

When I go to Brazil for 3-4 months the mongering is just one of many purposes of my trip. When staying in Rio I appreciate beachlife, beauty of the city, possibility to exercise outdoors, stroll along Av Atlântica, sit down at quisques and peoplewatching. Copacabana, Leme and Ipanema are my favourites. Copacabana is my first choice.
If I would go to Rio for only 10 days and with mongering as the only interest Centro would be my choice.

Exec Talent
12-14-12, 12:33
Little embarrassed about this one, but if it saves someone else from overpaying, it was worth it. Went to Master Therapy at Av Nossa Senhora 542/806 and visited with Erica. The price listed is R$120 for 60 minutes. She asks if I want a complete service and of course I said yes. Pretty much the porn star experience with everything imaginable included and an offer not to include the condom, which took me by surprise.

So, now it is time to pay and I am thinking R$150-R$200. Nope. She says R$250. I tell her I am not a stupid gringo (well, at least I wasn't before not asking the prices before we started) and she says all the girls there charge the same for complete service to Brazilians and gringos alike. I politely ask to speak with the receptionist and she gives me the same story.

No one to blame but myself for this.

http://www.terapiasonline.com.br/clinica.php?id=107

http://www.terapiasonline.com.br/mastertherapy/

Jan 156
12-14-12, 12:39
I second Sperto's post on nearly all points. If I stay only in Centro, everything is very convenient except I miss the beach and the holiday atmosphere of Copa, so I try to split the two. I include the main Lapa area as 'Centro' as you are close to Cinelandia and its not far to walk elsewhere plus, as Sperto says, you have the nightlife. The budget place next door to Ibis has rooms that are rather like a youth hostel. Bunk beds mostly. Not worth the small saving in my opinion. Ibis rates go through the roof of course in busy times like New Year and Carnaval, and also tend to get sold out if you don't book well ahead. There are some very cheap places to stay the other side of the square, but it is a very dirty street (can be entertaining for the SWs some of whom actualy live *on* the street and are amazingly brass and smelly, coming up to you in the fleapit outside bars). There are reasonably priced hotels in Lapa. Rua Joaquim Silva, for instance, has a strong backpacker following and there are hotels and prices to match. I've found quality of same-priced rooms even inside the same hotel here can vary enormously and it is best to do some crafty research or detective work. Many are not overly GF and you might find it worth comparing the cost of a double room (with associated frowns at breakfast etc) versus staying in a motel for a few days.

Golfinho
12-14-12, 13:17
When in Centro, unless you are entertained by watching streetwalkers on a dirty praca, there are other things to do. Adjacent to the 'mini-rodoviario' beneath the big building between Erasmo Braga and Nilo Pecanha (exit Carioca metro, cross Rio Branco, walk through Praca Mario Lago past the vendors, cross street where busses exit building, on right side) there a small travessa has been pedestianized with restaurants and bars. The type with four of five friends, co-workers, girls drinking beer from the meter high things, in fun mode. Weeknights from after work to ten or so, easy to get invitited, sit down, join in, try your luck. This is better crowd than elsewhere (Uruguania for example) with similar set-up.

Rio Bob
12-14-12, 16:02
Common? Since when? I have NEVER heard of guys paying for electricity or gas unless they were renting for a month or longer.Yes you see this more and more now, I only paid once, it was about 7 reais a day if U-turn the A / C off when you go out, makes you more conservative with the resources. Electricity is expensive and I guess some guys abuse it and leave everything on all day, so this gets them to be more carefull.

Bravo
12-14-12, 18:31
Yes you see this more and more now, I only paid once, it was about 7 reais a day if U-turn the A / C off when you go out, makes you more conservative with the resources. Electricity is expensive and I guess some guys abuse it and leave everything on all day, so this gets them to be more carefull.That sucks, having to pay for electricity is some bullshit. Next thing you know, the apartment owners will start charging you 25R a day for internet access.

I appreciate all the info on Centro hotels but the price quotes kinda defeat the purpose for me. If I was willing to pay 130 bucks a night, I might as well stay in Copa.

Spidy
12-14-12, 22:38
That sucks, having to pay for electricity is some bullshit. Next thing you know, the apartment owners will start charging you 25R a day for internet access.

I appreciate all the info on Centro hotels but the price quotes kinda defeat the purpose for me. If I was willing to pay 130 bucks a night, I might as well stay in Copa.Well if cost/price is your main consideration, you could consider Praça Mauá and the few "motels" that surround the downtown area. Specifically, motels like Sao Bentao, Hotel Puma, and others. Back in the day, I was paying about R$35/day. I haven't stayed there lately, but the last time I checked, the price was about $70 / day, this was about 2 years ago, not sure what it is today. Anyway these rooms aren't that great (but have been upgraded over recent years) and are fairly safe and secure, with TV/Porn, A/C, but with no internet that I know of.

You're close to most all the downtown action, incl. Termas, boites, clubs and Lapa is just a 15-20min. walk away. Several buses to and from Copa run 24hrs / day and only takes about 15min. at night.

Just remember most of these "motels" are really 2-3 hr sex motels (if they haven't been converted yet) , but do offer daily rentals, that can be sometimes negotiated. I have often seen Brazilian business men and women staying at these motels as a cheap alternative to hotels.

Jan 156
12-15-12, 03:14
Well if cost / price is your main consideration, you could consider Praça Mauá and the few "motels" that surround the downtown area. Specifically, motels like Sao Bentao, Hotel Puma, and others. Back in the day, I was paying about R$35 / day. I haven't stayed there lately, but the last time I checked, the price was about $70 / day, this was about 2 years ago, not sure what it is today. Anyway these rooms aren't that great (but have been upgraded over recent years) and are fairly safe and secure, with TV / Porn, A / C, but with no internet that I know of.

You're close to most all the downtown action, incl. Termas, boites, clubs and Lapa is just a 15-20min. Walk away. Several buses to and from Copa run 24hrs / day and only takes about 15min. At night.

Just remember most of these "motels" are really 2-3 hr sex motels (if they haven't been converted yet) , but do offer daily rentals, that can be sometimes negotiated. I have often seen Brazilian business men and women staying at these motels as a cheap alternative to hotels.I paid a bit more than that this year, but it was during carnaval when prices are artifially high. Some of the streets, and I mean places to stay all the way between Maua and Vargas, look a bit grubby. I wouldn't recommend them to a beginner who might feel needlessly nervous. You should be careful of course, but also relaxed. It is more of a community than south of vargas and after a day or two the regulars at the bars and pool halls will start accepting you if you just blend a bit. The other nice thing about this area is that, unlike centro proper (south of vargas) there are late night bars and brothels. As Spidy says, there's many buses to everywhere and also the metro is not that far. For internet, I used the wifi at the bookshop on the corner of vargas and Rio Branco. Had a coffee, asked for the code, and it was fine for several days. If you stick to Maua itself of course it is brightly lit and usually plenty of people about but it can feel a bit too bright. A few streets down can give you a bit more peace, enjoy the local shops etc.

Charisman
12-15-12, 03:50
There is great information on this thread! However I didn't see much on high end / super high end scene in Rio. Can someone please point me to any info that exists?

Thanks!

Golfinho
12-15-12, 04:31
The other nice thing about this area is that, unlike centro proper (south of vargas) there are late night bars and brothels. .A quick question from someone who has seen this, just to know where you're coming from: 'do you actually patronize these places? '

If you do, good for you, nothing better than being in your own happy zone. As for the pertinent description: late night bars habituated by the dregs of working proletariat, females (et. Al.) hovering in the shadow periphery waiting on a drunk who would be subject to the ridicule of his mates if caught in sight of her. Brothels staffed by whatever walked down from the nearest favela after finding someone to mind her kids. The nice things about this area.

Sperto
12-15-12, 07:02
As usual there will be a lot of shows on many places in Rio, on New Year.
In Copacabana I'm looking forward to the shows of Claudia Leitte and Grupo Revelação.
It's a shame that Cidade Negra won't appear in Copacabana, but only in Queimados and Madureira.

Praia de Copacabana (Copacabana Palace)
20h – DJ Man
21h - Diogo Nogueira
22h30 – Sorriso Maroto
23h45 - Contagem regressiva para virada
0h15 - Claudia Leitte
1h - Vencedor The Voice Brasil
03h – G.R.E.S. Unidos da Tijuca

Praia de Copacabana (Rua Santa Clara)
20h – Mariene de Castro
21h – Olo Dance
22h – Baby do Brasil
23h45 – Virada
00h10 – Grupo Revelação
01h40 – G.R.E.S. Acadêmicos do Salgueiro
02h20 – G.R.E.S. Unidos de Vila Isabel

Complete list:
http://www.jb.com.br/rio/noticias/2012/12/14/copacabana-virada-custara-r-17-mi-riotur-vai-desembolsar-para-outros-7-palcos-2/

I hope for good weather, but it has a tendency to almost always rain on New Years Eve in Rio.

Mongmann
12-15-12, 08:25
As usual there will be a lot of shows on many places in Rio, on New Year.

In Copacabana I'm looking forward to the shows of Claudia Leitte and Grupo Revelação.

It's a shame that Cidade Negra won't appear in Copacabana, but only in Queimados and Madureira.

Praia de Copacabana (Copacabana Palace)

20h – DJ Man.

21h. Diogo Nogueira.

22h30 – Sorriso Maroto.

23h45. Contagem regressiva para virada.

0h15. Claudia Leitte.

1h. Vencedor The Voice Brasil.

03h – G. R. E. S. Unidos the Tijuca.

Praia de Copacabana (Rua Santa Clara)

20h – Mariene de Castro.

21h – Olo Dance.

22h – Baby do Brasil.

23h45 – Virada.

00h10 – Grupo Revelação.

01h40 – G. R. E. S. Acadêmicos do Salgueiro.

02h20 – G. R. E. S. Unidos de Vila Isabel.

Complete list:

http://www.jb.com.br/rio/noticias/2012/12/14/copacabana-virada-custara-r-17-mi-riotur-vai-desembolsar-para-outros-7-palcos-2/

I hope for good weather, but it has a tendency to almost always rain on New Years Eve in Rio.I've been thinking about flying down for maybe 3 days around new years. I've never been in Rio for new years and I heard it's pretty cool. Only thing is I also heard that the scene is dead on and around new years. I don't mind a slow scene as I would be there not just for mongering but I don't think I can handle a non exitant scene. Ie no termas / balcony / escorts / etc. What's your take? I'm guessing the termas will probably be either dead or closed on Mon (12/31) , Tue (1/1) , and maybe even Wed (1/2). That might be a deal breaker for me.

Sperto
12-15-12, 08:38
I've been thinking about flying down for maybe 3 days around new years. I've never been in Rio for new years and I heard it's pretty cool. Only thing is I also heard that the scene is dead on and around new years. I don't mind a slow scene as I would be there not just for mongering but I don't think I can handle a non exitant scene. Ie no termas / balcony / escorts / etc. What's your take? I'm guessing the termas will probably be either dead or closed on Mon (12/31) , Tue (1/1) , and maybe even Wed (1/2). That might be a deal breaker for me.
Maybe some puteiros are open on the 31:st, I'm not sure. On the 1:st of January they will be closed. On the 2:nd they should be open.
Balcony is open all days and is propably filled with GP's. Who knows, maybe even some stunners (I also believe in Papá Noel).

If you spend New Year on Copacabana beach I'm sure there will be some girls (pro's or regulars) giving you invites. With 2-3 million people around the chances are quite good.

Bravo
12-15-12, 13:56
I've been thinking about flying down for maybe 3 days around new years. I've never been in Rio for new years and I heard it's pretty cool. Only thing is I also heard that the scene is dead on and around new years. I don't mind a slow scene as I would be there not just for mongering but I don't think I can handle a non exitant scene. Ie no termas / balcony / escorts / etc. What's your take? I'm guessing the termas will probably be either dead or closed on Mon (12/31) , Tue (1/1) , and maybe even Wed (1/2). That might be a deal breaker for me.Its rough to find a place that will only rent to you for 3 days. Damn near every apartment owner wants to to book a 10 day stay. I have been to Rio for 3 New years Eve celebrations, its fun, but it isn't worth the high costs that you have to pay. After the fireworks, everyone just wanders around the beach drinking and eating, nothing to write home about.

I am really suprised there isn't any big name American acts performing this year for NYE. Does teh meridien hotel have its own seperate fireworks display anymore? (I know the hotel has a new name, but i cant remember what it is)

Playful Jamie
12-15-12, 14:10
A bunch of fetishes fulfilled here. Jasmin is a tiny coffee-coloured 19 year old with braces and tattoos who came out chewing gum. Sounds bad, but no, she was spunky and funny and cute. We had a ball. I was sucking her nipples and noticed her breasts seemed hard. And they seemed to be causing her pain. I soon found out why, when I tasted her milk. She was lactating! I don't speak Portuguese but she seemed to say that she lost the baby at five months, which is sad (though, why is she lactating then?). Anyway, she did not have any stretch marks from giving birth, and her shaved pussy was tight.

I found her at Avenida Rio Branco 185, Sala 2114. The price is now $100 for 40 minutes, and you have to walk up from 20th floor in order to get there. The door is not marked, so just ring the bell and wait. A procession of girls will come out, you kiss them on both cheeks then make your choice.

D Cups
12-15-12, 14:52
[QUOTE=Mongmann; 1360770]I've been thinking about flying down for maybe 3 days around new years. I've never been in Rio for new years and I heard it's pretty cool.

The New Year's Eve party on Copacabana beach is one of the most amazing sights I have ever seen. Thousands of Brasilians all dressed in white carrying candles and white flowers to give to the goddess of the sea. I was there many years ago with a busty little spinner I met on the beach who spoke no English but was well versed in the international language. It is one of my best memories. Have fun!

Eric Cartman
12-15-12, 15:14
Little embarrassed about this one, but if it saves someone else from overpaying, it was worth it. Went to Master Therapy at Av Nossa Senhora 542/806 and visited with Erica. The price listed is R$120 for 60 minutes. She asks if I want a complete service and of course I said yes. Pretty much the porn star experience with everything imaginable included and an offer not to include the condom, which took me by surprise.

So, now it is time to pay and I am thinking R$150-R$200. Nope. She says R$250. I tell her I am not a stupid gringo (well, at least I wasn't before not asking the prices before we started) and she says all the girls there charge the same for complete service to Brazilians and gringos alike. I politely ask to speak with the receptionist and she gives me the same story.

No one to blame but myself for this.

http://www.terapiasonline.com.br/clinica.php?id=107

http://www.terapiasonline.com.br/mastertherapy/Exec, all in, if you really got a PSE for R$250, don't be so hard on yourself. I'd actually call that a pretty good deal for RJ these days. An hour at 502 will run you R$220 (in a suite) and there's still the R$20 entrada on top. The way you describe it, it seems worth it actually.

Speaking of which, hit up MC the other night. With my free entrada, I paid only R$468 for an hour as well as having bought 2 bottles of water, some food (chicken nuggets and fries for my chick) , and a drink or two for her. That's really not so bad these days. Plus in US dollars it was only like $230 haha (which would be great if I wasn't paid in Reais.). Still, I left after like 4 hours thinking, wow, that was pretty good.

-Cartman

Sperto
12-15-12, 16:46
Its rough to find a place that will only rent to you for 3 days. Damn near every apartment owner wants to to book a 10 day stay. I have been to Rio for 3 New years Eve celebrations, its fun, but it isn't worth the high costs that you have to pay. After the fireworks, everyone just wanders around the beach drinking and eating, nothing to write home about.

I am really suprised there isn't any big name American acts performing this year for NYE. Does the meridien hotel have its own seperate fireworks display anymore? (I know the hotel has a new name, but I can't remember what it is) Meridien is Windsor. No waterfall fireworks going down the building (that was cool).

I spent plenty of New Years in Rio and I can't imagine a better place to spend the New Year. During the day you enjoy the beach, look at the people coming down the beach lightning candles, bringing flowers, liquors and candy as gifts for Iemanjá. I love the atmosphere full of expectations, people preparing for the night of the year. You have a churrasco with friends and in the evening you head down to the beach. Watch the shows. Admire all the lovely beautiful women dressed in white. At midnight it's just fantastic to be in the crowd on the beach. About 20 minutes of first-class fireworks. Popping bottles, everybody hugging, kissing dancing and greeting each other. Afterwards more shows and party. I enjoy the New Year in Rio a lot.

Of course it can be very crowded, people pissing everywhere and the traffic is messed up.

Eric Cartman
12-15-12, 17:53
Of course it can be very crowded, people pissing everywhere and the traffic is messed up.Don't forget how all the stores / restaurants raise their prices (also during carnival). I mean, I'm a capitalist, I get it. Just pisses me off that the juice place I go to all year decides to jack prices on the days of these 2 events.

AltoBomGosto
12-17-12, 00:44
A bunch of fetishes fulfilled here. Jasmin is a tiny coffee-coloured 19 year old with braces and tattoos who came out chewing gum. Sounds bad, but no, she was spunky and funny and cute. We had a ball. I was sucking her nipples and noticed her breasts seemed hard. And they seemed to be causing her pain. I soon found out why, when I tasted her milk. She was lactating! I don't speak Portuguese but she seemed to say that she lost the baby at five months, which is sad (though, why is she lactating then?). Anyway, she did not have any stretch marks from giving birth, and her shaved pussy was tight.

I found her at Avenida Rio Branco 185, Sala 2114. The price is now $100 for 40 minutes, and you have to walk up from 20th floor in order to get there. The door is not marked, so just ring the bell and wait. A procession of girls will come out, you kiss them on both cheeks then make your choice.P. J. Congratulations, very good report, seems to be a good alternative to the termas, described in this board " at nauseam "!

Sperto
12-18-12, 13:44
I'm heading to Brazil tomorrow and would appreciate if somebody could confirm some addresses.

These casas in Tijuca continues on the same addresses?
Tigresas/XY Zen: Rua General Roca 340, sala 114
Anne Massagens: Rua General Roca 263
Mix Massagem, Rua General Conde de Bonfim 352, sala 402

Largo do Machado.
Jú Panteras, R Bento Lisboa 184. What's the sala number?

Thanks

Salbaggio
12-18-12, 17:04
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Steppenwolf11
12-18-12, 17:47
I know there is Bubba's Guide with lots of information (I used it with success. Thanks Bubba) , but for some reason I would prefer a map like ISAW-DB

http://www.isaw-db.com/map_rdj.html

Unfortunately the map of Rio at ISAW-DB is not very complete and a bit old (Help-Disco is still on the map).

Does somebody knows a good map of Rio with as much information as Bubba's Guide?

Almotu
12-19-12, 07:52
I'm heading to Brazil tomorrow and would appreciate if somebody could confirm some addresses.

These casas in Tijuca continues on the same addresses?

Tigresas / XY Zen: Rua General Roca 340, sala 114.

Anne Massagens: Rua General Roca 263.

Mix Massagem, Rua General Conde de Bonfim 352, sala 402.

Largo do Machado.

Jú Panteras, R Bento Lisboa 184. What's the sala number?

ThanksSperto: The Tijuca addresses are correct, except Mix Massagem is located in #506. There was a note on #402 announcing they have moved & to call a phone number but I believe they moved to Rua Conde de Bonfim, #246 cobertura 03. I took the elevator to the top floor then walked up a flight of stairs. The pricing was 50R / 60R / 80R but the talent (4 girls) was not to my liking. Let me know if my recommendation of Alice & Raissa at Anne's meets your standards. During my recent trip, Anne's was the only place in Tijuca that I sessioned in.

Never tried going to the Largo do Machado places especially since I was told that you can't just visit Ju Panteras and see the lineup.

Playful Jamie
12-19-12, 12:18
Today I wanted to see one of the famous termas, so I headed to one basically at random, Termas 181. But I got it wrong somehow, it is actually Club 181, not a termas at all. Oh well. I went in anyway, paid R12 entry fee. When I arrived, there was just one fat lady looking after an an old man, but after a while a slim one arrived for me. Paid R145 for 40 minutes sex including 1 refrigerante, but only R110 went to the club, the rest was apparently her self-claimed "tip". She was about 30, slim with tiny tits and an attitude, and liked me fingering her ass. But she answered her phone during sex and I lost my hardon. Bummer. The cabin was awful, stained mattress, crumbling concrete, the worst.

Later I looked around Vila Mimosa which was interesting and could be fun, but I just had a drink there. Cop cars were circling, which put me off. Then I went to Avenida Presidente Vargas 482, Sala 914. Thought it was just a massage place (the bed was a massage table) , but we went straight into sex. I chose a tall white brunette with medium-size tits, shaved, with big pussy lips, early 20s. Cost me 150, probably for an hour but I only used half of the time mainly because I had to leave. She seemed to like it, and she had a bit more meat on her than the first girl so it was better for me too. The premises were also much nicer.

Almotu
12-19-12, 18:31
Today I wanted to see one of the famous termas, so I headed to one basically at random, Termas 181. But I got it wrong somehow, it is actually Club 181, not a termas at all. Oh well. I went in anyway, paid R12 entry fee. When I arrived, there was just one fat lady looking after an an old man, but after a while a slim one arrived for me. Paid R145 for 40 minutes sex including 1 refrigerante, but only R110 went to the club, the rest was apparently her self-claimed "tip". She was about 30, slim with tiny tits and an attitude, and liked me fingering her ass. But she answered her phone during sex and I lost my hardon. Bummer. The cabin was awful, stained mattress, crumbling concrete, the worst.

Later I looked around Vila Mimosa which was interesting and could be fun, but I just had a drink there. Cop cars were circling, which put me off. Then I went to Avenida Presidente Vargas 482, Sala 914. Thought it was just a massage place (the bed was a massage table) , but we went straight into sex. I chose a tall white brunette with medium-size tits, shaved, with big pussy lips, early 20s. Cost me 150, probably for an hour but I only used half of the time mainly because I had to leave. She seemed to like it, and she had a bit more meat on her than the first girl so it was better for me too. The premises were also much nicer.Jamie, I commend you for being adventurous and going to these off the beaten path places. I can highly recommend the following places as their talent pool was pretty good only a couple of weeks ago when I visited.

Rio Branco. 185 #2114 (Bel Prazer) 100R=40mins / 120R=60mins.

Rio Branco. 185 #1327.

Rio Branco. 185 #729.

Rio Branco. 156 #3320.

In Tijuca area:

Rua General Roca, #263A up one flight of stairs 60R / 70R / 100R = 30/40/60 mins.

Av. Paula Souza, #214 80R / 100R = 40/60 mins.

Please continue your postings.

Almotu
12-19-12, 18:42
I'm heading to Brazil tomorrow and would appreciate if somebody could confirm some addresses.

These casas in Tijuca continues on the same addresses?

Tigresas / XY Zen: Rua General Roca 340, sala 114.

Anne Massagens: Rua General Roca 263.

Mix Massagem, Rua General Conde de Bonfim 352, sala 402.

ThanksI also liked Massagem Tijuca located at Av. Paula Souza, #214 80R / 100R = 40/60 mins. They had 6-8 ladies to choose from, a large variety. I thought there was potential even though the 2 sessions I had were only OK. I kept on missing Manu & Luisa as they were very popular. I hope you have better luck than I. They even open until 7pm on Saturday!

Carlos3000
12-19-12, 19:39
Jamie, I commend you for being adventurous and going to these off the beaten path places. I can highly recommend the following places as their talent pool was pretty good only a couple of weeks ago when I visited.

Rio Branco. 185 #2114 (Bel Prazer) 100R=40mins / 120R=60mins.

Rio Branco. 185 #1327.

Rio Branco. 185 #729.

Rio Branco. 156 #3320.RB 185/2114 is always busy. Wait times can sometimes be up to 30 mins. However, they have a lot of nice looking girls with good attitude. My advice would be to avoid lunch time (12 noon to 1:30pm). Fridays are very bad also.

Devilspinkick
12-20-12, 04:59
Today I wanted to see one of the famous termas, so I headed to one basically at random, Termas 181.I would hardly consider Club 181 a famous Termas. For the best known Termas in Rio I would suggest you try 4X4, Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaurus (if it's still open) , or even Termas 65. These are the the better places and generally more expensive, except for 4X4. THEN you will see the best that Rio has to offer. Places like Club 181 are low-end affairs. Fine for getting your rocks off but that's about it.

- DSK

Rodeo9112
12-22-12, 02:54
Fellow deviants,

After having been off the mongering grid for a couple of years, I'm hoping to make a comeback in 2013. What better place to go than Rio? I was wondering if I could solicit your insight as to the best time of year to travel, both as far as airfare prices and garota prices-any thoughts?

Thanks, humbly,

Rodeo

Secret56
12-22-12, 12:06
Somebody can tell me where or which termas in Rio I can find many muscular girls?

UMadBro
12-22-12, 18:42
Fellow deviants,

After having been off the mongering grid for a couple of years, I'm hoping to make a comeback in 2013. What better place to go than Rio? I was wondering if I could solicit your insight as to the best time of year to travel, both as far as airfare prices and garota prices-any thoughts?

Thanks, humbly,

RodeoIn my opinion January or February is the best cause its hot as hell down there and plenty of garotas on the beach. I just booked my tickets through BACC and got a pretty good deal 1180 roundtrip compared to booking straight from the airlines which was like 1600+. As far as the prices for the garotas goes, since you haven't been there in 3 years I'm sure its more expensive now. I go every year and if you go to a high end terma, be ready to spend anywhere from 350-480 reals. Also, if you book your flight, try to be flexible cause for some reason if you fly on a Tuesday or wednsday, its like $200 or more cheaper then any other days.

Sperto
12-22-12, 21:35
Sperto: The Tijuca addresses are correct, except Mix Massagem is located in #506. There was a note on #402 announcing they have moved & to call a phone number but I believe they moved to Rua Conde de Bonfim, #246 cobertura 03. I took the elevator to the top floor then walked up a flight of stairs. The pricing was 50R / 60R / 80R but the talent (4 girls) was not to my liking. Let me know if my recommendation of Alice & Raissa at Anne's meets your standards. During my recent trip, Anne's was the only place in Tijuca that I sessioned in.

Never tried going to the Largo do Machado places especially since I was told that you can't just visit Ju Panteras and see the lineup.Thank you, Almotu.

I'll check out Annes next week.

The day before yesterday I headed to Tijuca. First I passed Mix Massagem (sala 506, not 402, my mistake). I came before 11 AM. Only two girls present. The boss lady said that they have 12 girls working there. I'll check it out again another day. The porteiro was eager to recommend Conde de Bonfim 246 (cobertura 03) , so I went there. It's Panteras Tijucanas from sala 402 that moved there. Not as nice as Mix Massagem. Bathroom in the hall. 6 girls present. Pricing as you said. 50/60/80. As I arrived early all the girls were running around naked preparing themselves. One of the girls caught my attention, Kamilla. Mulatta. 26 years, quite cute, normal tits and a very big and round ass. Not what I normally would choose, but after a couple of months without carne the mulatta she looked very appealing. Good service.

Yesterday I headed back to Tijuca. I went to Tigresas (changed name). Only 8 girls present. No stunners, seems like they have lost in quality. Prices 60/70/80. I chose Polyana. A mulatta with a very nice and tight ass. Silicontits, which I don't appreciate. She gave a decent service, but a bit hardcore with false moaning and no cum in mouth.

Ho-beach seems dead. I spoke with some Copa-strippers on the beach. They said business was really bad. I havn't been to Balcony yet, but I'll check it out tonight. My buddy went there yesterday and brought home a very beautiful 18 year old morena. R$ 100 for a 2 hour session.

Akatl
12-23-12, 00:44
Does anyone know if the centro termas and massage places are open on the 24th?

Brazil Specialist
12-23-12, 09:43
Bravo,

When are you planning to come? Depending on the date, I might have a suite I can rent to you. But, you are right, normally New Year's rentals are 10 days at double the rate or more.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3281-Brazil-Specialist-s-Rental-Apartments

I live near the defunct Help, at Posto 5 in Copacabana. Usually willing to give advice. Unfortunately I am under heavy guard of a girl friend right now.

You can stop over, or I can talk on the phone before you come. If you send me a private message, make sure you leave info (email etc) that allows me to reply to you.

I am also always in need of kind souls that can bring me shopping items from the US. I pay cost, of course.


Its rough to find a place that will only rent to you for 3 days. Damn near every apartment owner wants to to book a 10 day stay. I have been to Rio for 3 New years Eve celebrations, its fun, but it isn't worth the high costs that you have to pay. After the fireworks, everyone just wanders around the beach drinking and eating, nothing to write home about.

I am really suprised there isn't any big name American acts performing this year for NYE. Does the meridien hotel have its own seperate fireworks display anymore? (I know the hotel has a new name, but I can't remember what it is)

AltoBomGosto
12-23-12, 09:44
Thank you, Almotu.

I'll check out Annes next week.

The day before yesterday I headed to Tijuca. First I passed Mix Massagem (sala 506, not 402, my mistake). I came before 11 AM. Only two girls present. The boss lady said that they have 12 girls working there. I'll check it out again another day. The porteiro was eager to recommend Conde de Bonfim 246 (cobertura 03) , so I went there. It's Panteras Tijucanas from sala 402 that moved there. Not as nice as Mix Massagem. Bathroom in the hall. 6 girls present. Pricing as you said. 50/60/80. As I arrived early all the girls were running around naked preparing themselves. One of the girls caught my attention, Kamilla. Mulatta. 26 years, quite cute, normal tits and a very big and round ass. Not what I normally would choose, but after a couple of months without carne the mulatta she looked very appealing. Good service.

Yesterday I headed back to Tijuca. I went to Tigresas (changed name). Only 8 girls present. No stunners, seems like they have lost in quality. Prices 60/70/80. I chose Polyana. A mulatta with a very nice and tight ass. Silicontits, which I don't appreciate. She gave a decent service, but a bit hardcore with false moaning and no cum in mouth.

Ho-beach seems dead. I spoke with some Copa-strippers on the beach. They said business was really bad. I havn't been to Balcony yet, but I'll check it out tonight. My buddy went there yesterday and brought home a very beautiful 18 year old morena. R$ 100 for a 2 hour session.Sperto, I'm probably hitting Rio in Jan 2013, coud you recomend any mulata who like to do BBBJ and CIM for a reasonable price, let´s talk R$ 100,00 for 2 h.?

Mr Enternational
12-23-12, 09:48
Does anyone know if the centro termas and massage places are open on the 24th?I seriously doubt it. In Brazil the 24th is like the 25th in North America. Everyone will be home with their family. So if you need to buy something to tide you over you better buy it on the 23rd.

Sperto
12-23-12, 11:47
Sperto, I'm probably hitting Rio in Jan 2013, coud you recomend any mulata who like to do BBBJ and CIM for a reasonable price, let´s talk R$ 100,00 for 2 h.?I only had time for two mulattas this far so it's too early for me to recommend any CIM-mulatta. I'll get back to you on this subject.

Sperto
12-23-12, 11:53
I went to Balcony yesterday. Maybe 50 women. Only 2-3 doable. The quality was absolutely terrible. Lots of really old women, fatties, flat-asses, nordestinas without necks and other nasty GPs. Quality propably improves after Christmas. I had no interesting in buying anything, but the asking price wa R$100-150.

Almotu
12-24-12, 03:32
I only had time for two mulattas this far so it's too early for me to recommend any CIM-mulatta. I'll get back to you on this subject.Hey Sperto, since you like 'dark meat' I can suggest you check out Bombom at Massagem Tijuca plus another mulatta there. Bombom is about 1. 6 tall and very bubbly, the other girl is probably 1. 75 tall also very pleasant during the lineup. Unfortunately I can't tell you anymore since I did not session with either but they were both visually tempting.

The one night I was at Balcony, I did see a few good looking girls and quite a few blatant travestis. I'd hate to bring someone home and have a 'Crying Game' moment. It's hard to believe their asking price is 100-150R. Don't you mean that's what they will settle for? I was never at HELP / TA during the glory days so my pricing might be a bit skewed. I always ended up paying 200-250R for 1-3 hours.

Sperto
12-24-12, 12:58
Hey Sperto, since you like 'dark meat' I can suggest you check out Bombom at Massagem Tijuca plus another mulatta there. Bombom is about 1. 6 tall and very bubbly, the other girl is probably 1. 75 tall also very pleasant during the lineup. Unfortunately I can't tell you anymore since I did not session with either but they were both visually tempting.

The one night I was at Balcony, I did see a few good looking girls and quite a few blatant travestis. I'd hate to bring someone home and have a 'Crying Game' moment. It's hard to believe their asking price is 100-150R. Don't you mean that's what they will settle for? I was never at HELP / TA during the glory days so my pricing might be a bit skewed. I always ended up paying 200-250R for 1-3 hours.Thank you, I'll check out the dark meat.

It was like "I charge R$200/150 but I accept R$150/100". It could be that they asked low because it was quite obvious that I wasn't eager to do business, or they might have been desperate for money for Christmas gifts. The gringos present were mostly old tired gringos who seemed more interested in sipping their beer than buying GPs. Logical the quality should be better after Christmas when the girls are back from the Christmas holiday.

Today, Christmas Eve, Balcony must be a disaster, even Help used to be closed at the 24:th. I'll be at a big private Christmas Party tonight. The only gringo. It'll be fun.

Feliz Natal to everyone!

Brazil Specialist
12-25-12, 23:37
Sperto, I'm probably hitting Rio in Jan 2013, coud you recomend any mulata who like to do BBBJ and CIM for a reasonable price, let´s talk R$ 100,00 for 2 h.?You are a couple of years late. A few years ago, maybe.

I wonder if anyone has such a recomendation.

With some luck in Vila Mimosa, but they tend to do CBJ.

I think you are lucky if you get 2 hours for R$ 150, chances are you might have to shell out 250.

One solution is to do things faster. 30 minutes in a massage parlor may set you back 60 or 80, an hour 120 or so.

I always said that Rio is a short time place

ChicoBarca
12-26-12, 00:31
Yes you see this more and more now, I only paid once, it was about 7 reais a day if U-turn the A / C off when you go out, makes you more conservative with the resources. Electricity is expensive and I guess some guys abuse it and leave everything on all day, so this gets them to be more carefull.Well, a few years since I was in Rio now and must say I feel like a 1st timer again. But even in those days just before Help closed down some of the companies renting out flats started to charge extra. And that was because quite a few used AC 24/7. But if you used it with sence they didn't care. But I guess now a days when everything is getting more expensive it's getting more common.

Chico

Sperto
12-26-12, 20:14
A buddy of mine wanted to see today what Rio has to offer in cheap mongering.

We started in Tijuca.
Mix Massagem was missing 5 girls. Only fatties present.
Annes Massagem had some nice girls. I tried Camilla. 26 years, mulatta, decent ass and big natural tits although a bit soft. Interesting BJ-skills. On my recommendation my buddy had Natascha (ex-Tigresas, ex-Mix). She has lost some of her fabulous tits.

Then we did some low-end. Carioca 59, awful quality. Uruguaiana 22, as always extremely loud music but 2 cuties present. Buenos Aires, sweaty to climb the stairs with 42 degrees heat. Several floors closed, only one doable GP.

Praca Olavao Bilac 13 had some talents, but was filled with guys. Praca Olavo Bilac 15 only had fuglies.

Afterwards we checked out Ed Central. Sala 1327 had some nice ones. Sala 1619 only had one available. Sala 3320 had several really nice ones, but we skipped it as we didn't want to wait for cabins. My friend got tired of all the running in the stairs so we didn't check out the rest of the salas in Ed Central.

Btw, there was a show yesterday in Copa. Gilberto Gil was great. Stevie Wonder didn't impress anybody. Many people left during his show, "chato demais".

Almotu
12-27-12, 01:10
Always good to hear your updates, Sperto. Did you get a chance to confirm the closure of Casa19? I am looking forward to see if you found anything worthwhile in the Treze de Maio buildings. After being handed a flyer, I poked my head into one or two apartments in Treze de Maio,47. (#512 & #708) but did not session. There were several mulatta spinners there. I could not find Lokalzen which I written as being located at Treze de Maio,33 #2414.

For those of you not familiar, Edificio Central is Rio Branco,156.

Sperto, I could not find any info on apartments in Rio Branco,181. Maybe it is now a wh*house free zone?

Was either Alice or Raissa available during your visit to Anne's?

Exec Talent
12-27-12, 07:45
Btw, there was a show yesterday in Copa. Gilberto Gil was great. Stevie Wonder didn't impress anybody. Many people left during his show, "chato demais".Maybe Kid Cisco didn't tell him that long instrumental riffs are pretty boring at a night-time beach concert. I think New Year's will be different. I have seen a more animated crowd while volunteering at the Senior Center. Stopped by Balcony near the end of the show and they were charging R$10 to get in. Mentioned KC's name and they waved me in. Actually there is a new American guy helping out for a few months who was very cool. Most of the girls have been around since before Help closed though there were a couple of hot younger ones. The TVs were hanging outside and looking better than many of the real girls inside. A nice touch was that people on the railing were being politely asked to take their smoking away from the inside area.

Got to say that the GDP profession does not seem to be perceived by the girls as the road to financial freedom that it used to be. Foreign guys were asking me where else they could go other than Monte Carlo. Rio still has its gems. What is missing is a lot of the low hanging fruit.

Sperto
12-27-12, 17:41
Always good to hear your updates, Sperto. Did you get a chance to confirm the closure of Casa19? I am looking forward to see if you found anything worthwhile in the Treze de Maio buildings. After being handed a flyer, I poked my head into one or two apartments in Treze de Maio. 47. (#512 & #708) but did not session. There were several mulatta spinners there. I could not find Lokalzen which I written as being located at Treze de Maio. 33 #2414.

For those of you not familiar, Edificio Central is Rio Branco. 156.

Sperto, I could not find any info on apartments in Rio Branco. 181. Maybe it is now a wh*house free zone?

Was either Alice or Raissa available during your visit to Anne's?I havn't yet passed Treze de Maio or Casa 19. Tomorrow I'll check out Rio Branco 181 and 185. No 181 used to have at least two casas, sala 105 and 801.

Raissa was one of the girls that were missing at Annes yesterday. I don't remember any Alice. Might be that she was missing as well.


Maybe Kid Cisco didn't tell him that long instrumental riffs are pretty boring at a night-time beach concert. I think New Year's will be different. I have seen a more animated crowd while volunteering at the Senior Center.Stevie Wonder was definitely the wrong choice for a concert in Copacabana. I havn't met anybody that enjoyed his show.

Eric Cartman
12-27-12, 21:02
Maybe Kid Cisco didn't tell him that long instrumental riffs are pretty boring at a night-time beach concert.This all could have been solved by 2 words: IRON MAIDEN. Well, actually, IRON FUCKING MAIDEN. But that's longer to write lmao.

I heard the concert and it seemed like folks were singing along (I live 1 block away from copa palace) , but I didn't see the crowd. Sounds like a bummer. Weather has been great all week, though. Sure it's 43-45 C or higher, but it's been sunny. Which means girls at the beach and tans.

The Centro termas went back to work today. So anyone wondering where to go besides MC should go to 4x4, 502, MV30, T65, and maybe Cancun.

On a side note, I really urge you to avoid Balcony -- it's being heavily targeted / watched by the cops. They are tracking who goes there.

Drew Be
12-28-12, 07:50
What's the deal with the girls at balcony? I'm in Rio now and have super limited Internet access but have had very poor luck so far mongering. I like to drink and have a good time when I see a girl and prices at strip clubs or even termas are insane. I'm not interested in spending $300 for an hour or 2 with a girl and a few drinks. You can seriously get that from an escort in most of Europe. I've been here 3 nights already and feel like I would have gotten a lot more for my money in barcelona or Prague. Why the hell did I fly halfway across the world to come to Rio? Maybe I'm going to the wrong places but I feel like my best bet is to just get a girl for tln from balcony. What are the chances she tries to drug me? What should I pay?

Ipanema Carioca
12-28-12, 14:16
What's the deal with the girls at balcony? I'm in Rio now and have super limited Internet access but have had very poor luck so far mongering. I like to drink and have a good time when I see a girl and prices at strip clubs or even termas are insane. I'm not interested in spending $300 for an hour or 2 with a girl and a few drinks. You can seriously get that from an escort in most of Europe. I've been here 3 nights already and feel like I would have gotten a lot more for my money in barcelona or Prague. Why the hell did I fly halfway across the world to come to Rio? Maybe I'm going to the wrong places but I feel like my best bet is to just get a girl for tln from balcony. What are the chances she tries to drug me? What should I pay?You didn't do your homework!

Salbaggio
12-28-12, 16:58
What's the deal with the girls at balcony? I'm in Rio now and have super limited Internet access but have had very poor luck so far mongering. I like to drink and have a good time when I see a girl and prices at strip clubs or even termas are insane. I'm not interested in spending $300 for an hour or 2 with a girl and a few drinks. You can seriously get that from an escort in most of Europe. I've been here 3 nights already and feel like I would have gotten a lot more for my money in barcelona or Prague. Why the hell did I fly halfway across the world to come to Rio? Maybe I'm going to the wrong places but I feel like my best bet is to just get a girl for tln from balcony. What are the chances she tries to drug me? What should I pay?I assume that's you first trip to Rio, where've you been before 3-5 years, now a days Rio is most expensive city in the World for pussy, you're right for not spending $300 for 1-2 hours, like some suckers do. Try to get some chick from Balcony, but do not pay her more than 150 Reais, if you're not too old, you can find something, even for free, and don't drink and drive. LOL

Exec Talent
12-28-12, 17:07
This really is a terrible time to be in Rio looking to meet working girls unless you speak Portuguese and know your way around. Even then many girls are spending time with family.

As mentioned previously, the low hanging reasonably priced fruit is gone. Rio now requires a little work and even then there are not many gems. If you speak Portuguese however, Rio is a gold mine of non-working girls.

Sperto
12-28-12, 19:55
I did a very early morning mongering on Rio Branco today, looking for something outstanding. Being impationed I started knocking doors before 10 AM.

Rio Branco 181 used to have puterios in sala 105 and 801. They are closed. According to the porteiros there a no more puteiros in RB 181.

Rio Branco 156:
Sala 2622: Only 2 girls, none doable.
Sala 1327: Half a dozen of girls, but nothing that really made me want to do business. There was a bigtitted morena clara the other day, but she had not arrived when I passed.
Sala 3320: Several cute girls, but not really what I wanted today.

Rio Branco 185:
Sala 1327: Not accepting clients as they were waiting for clean sheets.
Sala 2114 (one of the two Belprazers): Luckily I arrived early so I didn't have to wait in a line. Several interesting options. Well, they have to have a good selection if they wants to charge R$100/40 minutes (btw, the girls only receives half of the money). I made my choice when Jasmin presented herself.
Jasmin: Morena clara with indian blood, 19 years, very cute, lovely smile (although with braces) and eyes, petite, quite big tits regarding her size, nice butt, 7 tattoos (but not disturbing ones) and a tasty buc*ta (I rarely do DATY on a GP, but this one was irrestible and I was her first customer that day). Her tits are just totally amazing. Quite new at Belprazer so she's one of the most popular girls at the moment. Good service even though a bit unexperienced. Happy to pose for photos (I promised not to put them on the internet). Afterwards very cuddly and joking and laughing a lot. A real sweetie that needs a rerun in the future.

Almotu
12-29-12, 01:27
What's the deal with the girls at balcony? I'm in Rio now and have super limited Internet access but have had very poor luck so far mongering. I like to drink and have a good time when I see a girl and prices at strip clubs or even termas are insane. I'm not interested in spending $300 for an hour or 2 with a girl and a few drinks. You can seriously get that from an escort in most of Europe. I've been here 3 nights already and feel like I would have gotten a lot more for my money in barcelona or Prague. Why the hell did I fly halfway across the world to come to Rio? Maybe I'm going to the wrong places but I feel like my best bet is to just get a girl for tln from balcony. What are the chances she tries to drug me? What should I pay?Balcony is probably your worse option. Just read a few pages deep into this thread and you will find that it is currently targeted by the police (ripe to be shut down). Oldies, fuglies and trannys. I don't know where you are getting the $300 price tag from. Maybe you mean 300R which is about $150 = 40mins session plus entry to Monte Carlo / Solarium (?) If prices have gone up then I apologize.

I suggest you go to Centro and visit the private apartments. Just read Sperto's post and start there. 60-70R = 30mins and 80-120R = hour. YMMV.

Ipanema Carioca
12-29-12, 02:19
Balcony is probably your worse option. Just read a few pages deep into this thread and you will find that it is currently targeted by the police (ripe to be shut down). Oldies, fuglies and trannys. I don't know where you are getting the $300 price tag from. Maybe you mean 300R which is about $150 = 40mins session plus entry to Monte Carlo / Solarium (?) If prices have gone up then I apologize.

I suggest you go to Centro and visit the private apartments. Just read Sperto's post and start there. 60-70R = 30mins and 80-120R = hour. YMMV.Like I said,"You didn't do your homework", if you're crying about not getting any pussy in Rio!

UMadBro
12-29-12, 02:47
I'm having a hard time locating this place. Can anyone please help me out. I did a couple of searches on google maps and it just shows a huge building with several entrance but I can't find 156 on the street view. Any help I would really appreciate it.

Voyajer1
12-29-12, 05:50
Get on the metro headed to Centro and get off on Carioca Station. The station is under Rio Branco 156. You can't miss it!


I'm having a hard time locating this place. Can anyone please help me out. I did a couple of searches on google maps and it just shows a huge building with several entrance but I can't find 156 on the street view. Any help I would really appreciate it.

Ipanema Carioca
12-29-12, 05:54
I'm having a hard time locating this place. Can anyone please help me out. I did a couple of searches on google maps and it just shows a huge building with several entrance but I can't find 156 on the street view. Any help I would really appreciate it.Good grief! And don't be going around centro asking for the places either! This is a discreet environment!

Bubba Boy
12-29-12, 18:50
Wow Sperto has 2200 posts, damn that is a lot.

Thanks for the PM's guys!

Poucolouco
12-29-12, 19:05
I'm having a hard time locating this place. Can anyone please help me out. I did a couple of searches on google maps and it just shows a huge building with several entrance but I can't find 156 on the street view. Any help I would really appreciate it.Rio Branco 156 is a tall building (35 stories.) It is on the West side of Ave Rio Branco. Obs: Traffic flows North to South.

Sperto
12-29-12, 20:10
Good grief! And don't be going around centro asking for the places either! This is a discreet environment!Please, pay very much attention to what Ipanema Carioca wrote. Lost gringos asking the wrong people where to find puteiros can have bad consequences.

UMadBro
12-29-12, 23:01
Thanks for the info guys. I understand about the safety issue in concerning asking people on the streets for direction. Thats something I would never do.

Ipanema Carioca
12-30-12, 03:45
Please, pay very much attention to what Ipanema Carioca wrote. Lost gringos asking the wrong people where to find puteiros can have bad consequences.Thanks for reposting Sperto. I've beeb at carioca station and watched gringoes wondering the building and asking people about Sala location. I even pulled a few aside who I could tell spoke english.

Jan 156
12-30-12, 04:07
Get on the metro headed to Centro and get off on Carioca Station. The station is under Rio Branco 156. You can't miss it!Except you can also leave by the other exit sometimes, can't you, which takes out not by Rio Branco but onto the praca. In which case you have to turn right as you come out into the sunshine, and head over to the building complex (as long as you don't cross a road, there's nowhere else to go, so impossible to get lost.) Just go in past the sucos and burger bars to the ranks of elevators and find the right one.

The thought of anyone asking directions in the street for a paid sex venue fills me with horror. Centro is not Copa, and even in Copa it would be rude and utterly pointless but in Centro it's like asking a respectable, total stranger if you could shag his wife. You might get away with being a dumbass if you are a few yards from 4x4, but to ask the location of a private pleasure apartment would be utterly despicable. (And asking someone who isn't respectable will likely get you in deep sh*t, as has been pointed out.)

Yet I do remember many years ago on my first trip to Centro with a buddy. We walked in circles till our feet fell off. The directions in the last few posts should help any newcomer to avoid that; but if you get stuck, put it down to experience and go back to ISG or your maps when you get home or to an Internet cafe and strike out better next time.

OldKool
12-30-12, 04:10
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I have never been to Rio but based on the pricing I am seeing I doubt I will. For what you guys pay for one girl in Rio I can do 4 in the Dominican Republic. While no doubt Rio ladies are very fine I have no problems with the DR ladies. It is much closer and the pussies are just as wet. To each his own.

QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca; 1366256]Like I said,"You didn't do your homework", if you're crying about not getting any pussy in Rio![/QUOTE]

Devilspinkick
12-30-12, 07:30
This really is a terrible time to be in Rio looking to meet working girls unless you speak Portuguese and know your way around. Even then many girls are spending time with family.

As mentioned previously, the low hanging reasonably priced fruit is gone. Rio now requires a little work and even then there are not many gems. If you speak Portuguese however, Rio is a gold mine of non-working girls.Something to think about. I started visiting Brazil about 15 years ago and quickly realized how much of an advantage it would be to learn Portuguese. Helps that on my first trip I made friends with many local chaps and in subsequent trips was compelled to speak Port. Between that, traveling to distant corners of the country and of course chatting with the garotas I have obtained a working command of the language. It makes a big difference because Brasilians LOVE TO TALK, especially the dames. They like it much more if you can speak Portuguese to them. LEARN TO SPEAK AT LEAST A LITTLE PORTUGUESE!

Sure prices are much higher than before but like E. Talent says if you can speak with the locals a whole new world of opportunities open up. Also helps if you're not a poor tourist type. To have fun in Rio or São Paulo you ought to be willing to spend some cash. If you want cheap, bargain basement prices & quality the go to Tijuana, El Salvador, Cambodia, or any one of the many other third-world backwaters. Or just stuck with the trash at Balcony.

- DSK

Sperto
12-30-12, 10:33
A good guide for spending the New Year in Copacabana,

http://oglobo.globo.com/infograficos/reveillon-2012-servico/

Let's hope for good weather.

Mongmann
12-30-12, 10:54
I have never been to Rio but based on the pricing I am seeing I doubt I will. For what you guys pay for one girl in Rio I can do 4 in the Dominican Republic. While no doubt Rio ladies are very fine I have no problems with the DR ladies. It is much closer and the pussies are just as wet. To each his own.Comparing the DR to Rio is like comapring comparing the Cavs to the Miami Heat. It's not even close. DR is not even in the same conversation as Rio. Is the DR cheaper? Yes it is. However, a lot of us are in this for the best possible quality and service. The work ethic of many of the DR chicks is laughable and quality wise like I said they can't compare. The only people that choose DR over Rio are people that have never been to Rio. Lmao!

Java Man
12-30-12, 13:56
if you've been to rio before, you should be aware of the wicked undertow at copacabana beach. if one is not careful, it will take you out to sea. if one is unlucky, you'll drown and your body will be found days later, probably near the copacabana fort. it's so dangerous that a fire dept search and rescue helicopter is sent to pluck the distressed swimmer via a net. this occurs very often. (i've seen it happen.) such was the case yesterday near posto 3. according to witnesses, the helicopter was trying to rescue a person, who was drowning, when it developed problems. the helicopter, which was flying low, lost stability, fell into the water and sank. the pilot reported that a panel lighted, indicating loss of rotation speed and consequently, altitude. at that moment, he descended into the water, trying to cause the least possible impact. the four firemen on board suffered minor injuries. the drowning swimmer was rescued by either a surfer or a lifeguard. and of course, in this digital age it was captured on video:

http://oglobo.globo.com/videos/t/todos-os-videos/v/catalogo/2319024

with the high heat and crowded beaches, a lifeguard reported to odia of 100 rescues performed saturday on rio's beaches! a witness stated that prior to the crash the helicopter had rescued at least 3 people. the fire dept now only has 2 rescue helicopters. careful going in the water.

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/helicoptero-que-caiu-no-mar-durante-salvamento-em-copacabana-retirado-da-agua-7161871

http://odia.ig.com.br/portal/rio/helic%c3%b3ptero-dos-bombeiros-cai-no-mar-de-copacabana-1.530342

the helicopter was removed from the water early this morning.

in other news: four armed men held up the rio rockers hostel, at rua tonelero, near rua lacerda coutinho in copacabana. they got $r2400 from the hotel and various items from the tourist staying there. and of course, the security cameras were not working.

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/quatro-homens-armados-assaltam-albergue-em-copacabana-7160280

BigTennis
12-30-12, 15:33
If you were flying into Rio this week where would you stay? I just got my visa and am having information overload trying to read the forum but want to get down there in the next few weeks if not this week. I also want to do Buzios.

Thanks

Jimmy Boy 99
12-30-12, 16:27
Please, pay very much attention to what Ipanema Carioca wrote. Lost gringos asking the wrong people where to find puteiros can have bad consequences.I doubt he was going to ask someone on the street where the puteiros were, but rather where 156 Rio Branco was. If he were that stupid, then he probably shouldn't be going to brothels at all. I think it is perfectly fine to ask for directions to a building, especially a large commercial building, from someone in the street.

JuveStadium
12-30-12, 16:57
Except you can also leave by the other exit sometimes, can't you, which takes out not by Rio Branco but onto the praca. In which case you have to turn right as you come out into the sunshine, and head over to the building complex (as long as you don't cross a road, there's nowhere else to go, so impossible to get lost.) Just go in past the sucos and burger bars to the ranks of elevators and find the right one.

The thought of anyone asking directions in the street for a paid sex venue fills me with horror. Centro is not Copa, and even in Copa it would be rude and utterly pointless but in Centro it's like asking a respectable, total stranger if you could shag his wife. You might get away with being a dumbass if you are a few yards from 4x4, but to ask the location of a private pleasure apartment would be utterly despicable. (And asking someone who isn't respectable will likely get you in deep sh*t, as has been pointed out.)

Yet I do remember many years ago on my first trip to Centro with a buddy. We walked in circles till our feet fell off. The directions in the last few posts should help any newcomer to avoid that; but if you get stuck, put it down to experience and go back to ISG or your maps when you get home or to an Internet cafe and strike out better next time.When somebody who's never been to Rio reads your post would probably think Rio is the Holy City. What's the problem about asking for direction for some buildings number in Centro, most of this people you'd ask are regular customers there not a holy guys. Just ask man anything you need.

Brazil Specialist
12-30-12, 17:12
except you can also leave by the other exit sometimes, can't you, which takes out not by rio branco but onto the praca. in which case you have to turn right as you come out into the sunshine, and head over to the building complex (as long as you don't cross a road, there's nowhere else to go, so impossible to get lost.) just go in past the sucos and burger bars to the ranks of elevators and find the right one.

the thought of anyone asking directions in the street for a paid sex venue fills me with horror. centro is not copa, and even in copa it would be rude and utterly pointless but in centro it's like asking a respectable, total stranger if you could shag his wife. you might get away with being a dumbass if you are a few yards from 4x4, but to ask the location of a private pleasure apartment would be utterly despicable. (and asking someone who isn't respectable will likely get you in deep sh*t, as has been pointed out.)

yet i do remember many years ago on my first trip to centro with a buddy. we walked in circles till our feet fell off. the directions in the last few posts should help any newcomer to avoid that; but if you get stuck, put it down to experience and go back to isg or your maps when you get home or to an internet cafe and strike out better next time.
please, pay very much attention to what ipanema carioca wrote. lost gringos asking the wrong people where to find puteiros can have bad consequences.you have to know what to ask for. these are huge buildings, puteiros are 2% of the building. no sweat asking for the building.

now hopefully you know the suite # of the puteiro. it is extremely embarrassing to knock on the wrong door. have an excuse handy."is paula here?" "is this travel agency yyy"


i did a very early morning mongering on rio branco today, looking for something outstanding. being impationed i started knocking doors before 10 am.

rio branco 181 used to have puterios in sala 105 and 801. they are closed. according to the porteiros there a no more puteiros in rb 181.if you knock at one of these doors, better have your excuse ready.


if you've been to rio before, you should be aware of the wicked undertow at copacabana beach. if one is not careful, it will take you out to sea. if one is unlucky, you'll drown and your body will be found days later, probably near the copacabana fort. it's so dangerous that a fire dept search and rescue helicopter is sent to pluck the distressed swimmer via a net. this occurs very often. (i've seen it happen.) such was the case yesterday near posto 3. according to witnesses, the helicopter was trying to rescue a person, who was drowning, when it developed problems. the helicopter, which was flying low, lost stability, fell into the water and sank. the pilot reported that a panel lighted, indicating loss of rotation speed and consequently, altitude. at that moment, he descended into the water, trying to cause the least possible impact. the four firemen on board suffered minor injuries. the drowning swimmer was rescued by either a surfer or a lifeguard. and of course, in this digital age it was captured on video:

http://oglobo.globo.com/videos/t/todos-os-videos/v/catalogo/2319024

with the high heat and crowded beaches, a lifeguard reported to odia of 100 rescues performed saturday on rio's beaches! a witness stated that prior to the crash the helicopter had rescued at least 3 people. the fire dept now only has 2 rescue helicopters. careful going in the water.

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/helicoptero-que-caiu-no-mar-durante-salvamento-em-copacabana-retirado-da-agua-7161871

http://odia.ig.com.br/portal/rio/helic%c3%b3ptero-dos-bombeiros-cai-no-mar-de-copacabana-1.530342

the helicopter was removed from the water early this morning.

in other news: four armed men held up the rio rockers hostel, at rua tonelero, near rua lacerda coutinho in copacabana. they got $r2400 from the hotel and various items from the tourist staying there. and of course, the security cameras were not working.

http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/quatro-homens-armados-assaltam-albergue-em-copacabana-7160280thanks for the great links. now it is sad that they cannot even keep their helicopters in good working conditions.

oh, and i never ever understood the problem of the undertow. if you really know how to swim, there is no problem.

now all these people who cannot swim, or only for 2 minutes before they drown, yes, they should not enter the ocean. this is very dangerous.

Golfinho
12-30-12, 17:26
In other news: Four armed men held up the Rio Rockers Hostel, at Rua Tonelero, near Rua Lacerda Coutinho in Copacabana. They got $R2400 from the hotel and various items from the tourist staying there. And of course, the security cameras were not working.Would be no surprise if an inside job here, places in this vicinity run by local hebrews, shtetl set-up for mostly tourist is realis.

Bubba Boy
12-30-12, 18:32
Copa has rips and under tows like most other beaches, anyone not familar in the ocean should take care. Anyone drinking and then going for a swim is just asking for trouble.

For anyone that grew up near a beach or has experience in the surf it is very mild and won't cause an issue.

Brazil Specialist
12-30-12, 18:37
I doubt he was going to ask someone on the street where the puteiros were, but rather where 156 Rio Branco was. If he were that stupid, then he probably shouldn't be going to brothels at all. I think it is perfectly fine to ask for directions to a building, especially a large commercial building, from someone in the street.Right.

But it really is of concern if groups of loud boisterous gringos walk through these buildings, loudly talking about sex. I foresee this will happen and will have very bad effects.


If you were flying into Rio this week where would you stay? I just got my visa and am having information overload trying to read the forum but want to get down there in the next few weeks if not this week. I also want to do Buzios.

ThanksWell, if you come after New Years, you saved a lot of money for flight and housing.

There are thousands of possibilities. Apartment rental agencies or the few known hotels that are monger-friendly. Princess promenade in Rua Xavier the Silveira used to be and probably still is.

It is all somewhere on this board, but I don't know where.

I might have space if interested.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3281-Brazil-Specialist-s-Rental-Apartments

I also always look for people from the US to carry some shopping items for me. I try to be grateful and helpful in exchange. But I always try to be helpful with advice without strings attached.

Brazil Specialist
12-30-12, 18:50
What's the deal with the girls at balcony? I'm in Rio now and have super limited Internet access but have had very poor luck so far mongering. I like to drink and have a good time when I see a girl and prices at strip clubs or even termas are insane. I'm not interested in spending $300 for an hour or 2 with a girl and a few drinks. You can seriously get that from an escort in most of Europe. I've been here 3 nights already and feel like I would have gotten a lot more for my money in barcelona or Prague. Why the hell did I fly halfway across the world to come to Rio? Maybe I'm going to the wrong places but I feel like my best bet is to just get a girl for tln from balcony. What are the chances she tries to drug me? What should I pay?People say to do the homework, but don't explain how.

In the Brazil section here is a thread by Bubba Boy that explains most things. You can also try to google Bwana Dik Rio Guide. Very good.

I tried to intermediate the posting of the guide here, Bwana Dik agreed, the board owner agreed. Somehow it never finished: Bwana Dik was supposed to get a login, the Boss here was supposed to give him senior member status, and he would post his guide. Anyone wants to help to finalize this?

But, in general, whoring in Rio is a shadow of what it used to be, and much more expensive. It is not really point and click as it used to be. My guest wanted a girl Sunday at 2 pm, and I only knew how to call starcris. Com agency that had 2 dogs to choose from.

Not much else to do on a Sunday, except Vila Mimosa. Or try to call personal friends who most likely stand you up or come 5 hours late. But maybe others have more advice?

Ipanema Carioca
12-30-12, 19:05
Comparing the DR to Rio is like comapring comparing the Cavs to the Miami Heat. It's not even close. DR is not even in the same conversation as Rio. Is the DR cheaper? Yes it is. However, a lot of us are in this for the best possible quality and service. The work ethic of many of the DR chicks is laughable and quality wise like I said they can't compare. The only people that choose DR over Rio are people that have never been to Rio. Lmao!I've been to both Rio and Sosua many times. Yes they are different, but in one aspect they are the same, and that's women. If your women skills are weak then go to Rio, but if your women skills are strong then you can enjoy both Rio and Sosua. I have been to Sosua more this year than Rio, and I use Rio for only a 2 day stop over to other cities mainly because DR is cheaper at 40 to 1 in currency, pussy and accommodations. Rio is now just good for 4 days at max for me. One main reason is that Rio's night life is boring. After fuck there's no night life. In Sosua there's a night life like the restaurant in front of Help. In Rio I don't want to spent money on nonputas who want romance. That's what you have to do in order to enjoy Rio's night life. I have more fun in Salvador with samba, reggae and jazz. Plus the women in Salvador bars are more friendlier. Rio women travel in pack or groups if they are not with men. Now you're comparing the Heat to the Cavs, there might be another board to compare men to men, but not this one! LOL!

UMadBro
12-30-12, 20:25
If you were flying into Rio this week where would you stay? I just got my visa and am having information overload trying to read the forum but want to get down there in the next few weeks if not this week. I also want to do Buzios.

ThanksBefore you buy your ticket, check out bacc travel. I just got my ticket from there and it was the cheapest I found online. I'm staying in copa from jan8 through the 21. But I have family there so I don't have to worry about renting a place. It all depends how much you want to spend my friend. Copa and inpanema is probably going to be the most expensive if you planing on renting or staying in a hotel. Good luck! And safe travel!

Java Man
12-30-12, 21:14
Oh, and I never ever understood the problem of the undertow. If you really know how to swim, there is no problem.

Now all these people who cannot swim, or only for 2 minutes before they drown, yes, they should not enter the ocean. This is very dangerous.
Copa has rips and under tows like most other beaches, anyone not familar in the ocean should take care. Anyone drinking and then going for a swim is just asking for trouble.

For anyone that grew up near a beach or has experience in the surf it is very mild and won't cause an issue.Mild? Not sure about that. You can feel the strong pull just by walking into ankle deep water. The problem with Copacabana Beach is that it is not natural, it's man made. The original beach was just a small strip lapping at the edge of Copacabana Hotel. One can see how it original was by looking at the ole street side photos at the Copacabana Palace on Ave N. S. De Copacabana. There are many reports of first time tourists getting into the water after arriving in Copa, only to drown. I witnessed such an event a few years back. Chinese dude had just arrived, checked in at his hotel, and went into the ocean. Only to drown. Rescue copter came out, but was unable to find him. Very sad seeing his friend weeping on the beach. His body was found 5 days later near the Copa Fort.

Mongmann
12-30-12, 21:38
I've been to both Rio and Sosua many times. Yes they are different, but in one aspect they are the same, and that's women. If your women skills are weak then go to Rio, but if your women skills are strong then you can enjoy both Rio and Sosua. I have been to Sosua more this year than Rio, and I use Rio for only a 2 day stop over to other cities mainly because DR is cheaper at 40 to 1 in currency, pussy and accommodations. Rio is now just good for 4 days at max for me. One main reason is that Rio's night life is boring. After fuck there's no night life. In Sosua there's a night life like the restaurant in front of Help. In Rio I don't want to spent money on nonputas who want romance. That's what you have to do in order to enjoy Rio's night life. I have more fun in Salvador with samba, reggae and jazz. Plus the women in Salvador bars are more friendlier. Rio women travel in pack or groups if they are not with men. Now you're comparing the Heat to the Cavs, there might be another board to compare men to men, but not this one! LOL!Lmao! Heat to cavs. You know what I mean. Ha! Anyway, I have to disagree with some of this. I definitely think if your "women skills" are weak you need to go to Sosua. Sosua is designed for the lazy monger. You basically don't have to know much of anything there. And you def don't need "women skills". Hang out at classicos, your hotel, or one of the many bars, etc and it's all there for the taking. Sosua is for those guys that would go to Rio and never leave the 3-4 block radius that included their apt, help, the beach, and meia pataca. Now for Rio you need more smarts, and more initiative to really get the best experience. There's tons of info right here on this board on where to find a piece of ass that would put Sosua to shame, but a lot of mongers are lazy. They don't want to read, they don't want to go into centro, they don't want to learn even a bit of port. So because of that they have limited options. Termas, balcony, and I guess an escort agency. But those same lazy mongers will be complaining about the costs of all of that.

Like you said you can get 40 to 1 in DR and you can easily get laid in sosua for the equivalent of 40 US. Here's my problem, that chick you're going to get in Sousa won't be able to touch the majority of chicks in Rio in service. There are dimes in Sosua but the service is not up to my standards. I can't get a massage followed by a 45 min BJ and then a marathon session in Sosua without hearing,"papi, you no leche yet" LOL. Please. When I get TLN that's exactly what that means. Ha. And don't get me started on the termas. There aint a thing in Sosua that's even coming close to the talent and the service in Rio's top termas. Sosua def has Rio beat in terms of costs but I was never in this sport for cost in the first place so that means nothing to me. I've been in this to get the best possible porn star experience I can and Rio has consistently been able to deliver. Now that doesn't mean I will pay any old price in Rio either. 200 TLN to freelancers is what I pay. And of course I pay through the roof at the termas. Can't wait to get back!

OldKool
12-30-12, 22:09
For what you guys pay these girls it is more then in my city. In the DR I have a huge options of ladies. Quality maybe but DR women are also very attractive. I have no complaints. You say the water is wetter. I am not buying it. For 40 dollars these 20 year old ladies rock my world. I think the sun is setting on Rio mongering. The prices for plane and women are no longer attractive.


Comparing the DR to Rio is like comapring comparing the Cavs to the Miami Heat. It's not even close. DR is not even in the same conversation as Rio. Is the DR cheaper? Yes it is. However, a lot of us are in this for the best possible quality and service. The work ethic of many of the DR chicks is laughable and quality wise like I said they can't compare. The only people that choose DR over Rio are people that have never been to Rio. Lmao!

Golfinho
12-30-12, 22:13
Mild? Not sure about that. You can feel the strong pull just by walking into ankle deep water. The problem with Copacabana.The word Ipanema in the native indigenous language means 'place of rough waters. ' So much stronger currents there and beaches to the south.

Mongmann
12-30-12, 22:27
For what you guys pay these girls it is more then in my city. In the DR I have a huge options of ladies. Quality maybe but DR women are also very attractive. I have no complaints. You say the water is wetter. I am not buying it. For 40 dollars these 20 year old ladies rock my world. I think the sun is setting on Rio mongering. The prices for plane and women are no longer attractive.I hear you. Rio has definitely gotten more exp over the years, but like I said mongering was never about the cheapest for me. It's been about the best. I have a question for you though. If you've never been to Brazil how are you able to compare the two? You say you're not buying it, right. What are you basing that on if you've only had one of these two options?

DrPleasure
12-30-12, 23:03
I just walked to both Monte Carlo and L'uomo. Both were closed. L'uomo was boarded up and looked closed for good. But Monte Carlo was just closed for the day. Does anyone know what the situation is on Sundays? There are no options at all.

Ipanema Carioca
12-30-12, 23:19
Here's my problem, that chick you're going to get in Sousa won't be able to touch the majority of chicks in Rio in service. There are dimes in Sosua but the service is not up to my standards. I can't get a massage followed by a 45 min BJ and then a marathon session in Sosua without hearing,"papi, you no leche yet" LOL. Please. When I get TLN that's exactly what that means. Ha. And don't get me started on the termas. There aint a thing in Sosua that's even coming close to the talent and the service in Rio's top termas. Sosua def has Rio beat in terms of costs but I was never in this sport for cost in the first place so that means nothing to me. I've been in this to get the best possible porn star experience I can and Rio has consistently been able to deliver. Now that doesn't mean I will pay any old price in Rio either. 200 TLN to freelancers is what I pay. And of course I pay through the roof at the termas.I'm glad you know I was kidding with the NBA analogy Mongmann. I agree with you, but I was applying "If your women skills are weak then go to Rio, but if your women skills are strong then you can enjoy both Rio and Sosua" right where you said "Here's my problem." That part of Sosua or DR bother most Rio or Brasil mongers, and I had to get use to it. But after my 2nd trip I know how to measure those DR chicas. They are not that smart. Most are starting at DR3, 000 pesos (152 reais) but I get them down to DR 1, 500, sometime 2, 000. My trip in last month I had a 22 year old haitian that stayed over, left to change close and met up with me later after I messed around with other chica, and I gave her DR3500 pesos my last day. The haitian girls in DR have the bodies and stamina similar to Rio. But this is a Rio board so I'll keep it Rio. However, the inflation is hitting the Brasilians hard and the cost is being felt across the board. Then the airfare to Rio is fucking high compared to DR.

That being said about Rio, I'm looking to not stay in Copa or Ipanema anymore. In fact, I've been staying in hotels because the apts have gotten expensive and the services are only good quality if you use a regular service. The independents and apt owners are so unprofessional with service like sheets, towels with plenty roaches. In Sosua I can stay in a all-inclusive resort for $65 US a night.

OldKool
12-30-12, 23:57
$1278. 06ROUND-TRIPPer Person.

This is 1278 the current price of a round trip ticket if not mistaken girls are 100 or more per session $1000. In 7 days I do about 10 girls and $50 a night for hotel. No food or other activity we talking over 2600 dollars for 1 week.

I can book roundtrip to DR for $400 round trip $400.

10 girls $ 400 hotel 350 7 days total= $1150.

$100 less then the Rio flight for my whole week.

I love DR women mixed with Haitiani every now and then. I know Rio women are gorgeous but a 10 is a 10. All in the eyes of the beholder. No doubt the city of Rio is bigger then the country of DR but I can only sleep with one or two at a time.

So all those extra women are surplus (window dressing). I am tight with my money and I love my chicas.


I hear you. Rio has definitely gotten more exp over the years, but like I said mongering was never about the cheapest for me. It's been about the best. I have a question for you though. If you've never been to Brazil how are you able to compare the two? You say you're not buying it, right. What are you basing that on if you've only had one of these two options?

Almotu
12-31-12, 00:32
$1278. 06ROUND-TRIPPer Person.

This is 1278 the current price of a round trip ticket if not mistaken girls are 100 or more per session $1000. In 7 days I do about 10 girls and $50 a night for hotel. No food or other activity we talking over 2600 dollars for 1 week.

I can book roundtrip to DR for $400 round trip $400.

10 girls $ 400 hotel 350 7 days total= $1150.

$100 less then the Rio flight for my whole week.

I love DR women mixed with Haitiani every now and then. I know Rio women are gorgeous but a 10 is a 10. All in the eyes of the beholder. No doubt the city of Rio is bigger then the country of DR but I can only sleep with one or two at a time. I am tight with my money and I love my chicas.Don't you know anyone that has GONE to both places. The DR and Rio? Just ask them and I guarantee you they will say Rio is better, they just have to save up more and treat it as a gift for themselves. You can't judge a place simply based on the mathematics. By the way, the cost of lodging in Rio is more than the $50 per night you allotted for so the Rio budget can be even higher.

If you are happy with Sosua and the DR why post in the Rio Reports thread, you will find very few people that will agree with you.

Mangera
12-31-12, 01:11
$1278. 06ROUND-TRIPPer Person.

This is 1278 the current price of a round trip ticket if not mistaken girls are 100 or more per session $1000. In 7 days I do about 10 girls and $50 a night for hotel. No food or other activity we talking over 2600 dollars for 1 week.

I can book roundtrip to DR for $400 round trip $400.

10 girls $ 400 hotel 350 7 days total= $1150.

$100 less then the Rio flight for my whole week.

I love DR women mixed with Haitiani every now and then. I know Rio women are gorgeous but a 10 is a 10. All in the eyes of the beholder. No doubt the city of Rio is bigger then the country of DR but I can only sleep with one or two at a time.

So all those extra women are surplus (window dressing). I am tight with my money and I love my chicas.I respect your opinion. I will throw in my 2 cents worth as well. Even if 4 trips to DR is equal to 1 trip to Rio, its a no brainer for me. Without a doubt, I would take my trip to Brasil. BTW, I have a home in South Florida, so you would think DR would be the no brainer. However, thats not the case with me. I have been to both, and for me its quality over quantity. Aside from p*ssy, there is just so much more to do as well.

As for the last statement in your post, I personally enjoy tight p*ssy, and I love my money.

Kid Cisco
12-31-12, 04:54
All I have to say on this subject is this, I been to Costa Rica, Panama, and DR and other places many many times I rather spend a few days in Rio then spend a week or two in any of the those other places for FREE LOL now if you want to compare places I do like Colombia and the Colombian women they have some cute looking faces and nice asses many have huge tits if that is your thing but to me they seem like they don't enjoy it as much and they that can't take the type of pounding for a long time period like the Brazilians girls can take, and most (Colombians, or chicks from DR or other places can't fuck a long time without asking you to cum already) LOL most don't do anal either and IF they do they will charge you extra money for it $$$. LOL.

To me I was in Rio twice this month and I didn't do the type of mongering I normally do BUT then again I was working my ass off and very busy too, BUT then again I really didn't have to because if you go to Rio often you can build a team of girls you can hang out with and spend time and have fun with and don't have to pay a arm and a leg. I guess that can go for any place as far as that goes if that is your thing.

In the past I use to talk a lot about going on Facebook and chatting and hooking up with lot of girls before you even go to Brazil and some guys wanted to debate and argue about the topic so I stop talking about it, this last time around I wasn't able to monger that much BUT I was able to kick it with some dimes I knew off of Facebook and had a great time.

With the cost of things going up in Brazil (hotel, food, apts, girls) etc. And I heard Donald Trump is building some Condo's in Rio down the road which means everything will be going up even higher you have to change your game plan the days of going to Rio fucking 5-6 dimes a day like the good ole days are over for most guys you can still do it but you have to save up more money to do so or stay less days or fuck less wh@res Per day LOL

I still had fun this time around I took some guys around to a bar for drinks and where you can take out a girl if you wanted to (and we did) LOL and we hit a terma to my surprise they demanded to pay the whole bill even if I had to pay I still would rather go to Brazil over DR the last time I went to DR I wanted to catch a flight back home early that never happen to me after all the times I been to Rio.

Kid Cisco

Joe Shmoe
12-31-12, 05:22
I can vouch for both since I've been to both. It really comes down to if you're on a budget. For quality I would definitely say Rio. DR has some hotties too but they don't fuck like Brazilians. I usually stick to DR for short stays, maybe a 3-4 day weekend. If I have more time than that, then its Rio for sure. Plus I love the culo and that's definitely hard to get in place like DR. They look at you like you're crazy if you ask for it.

OldKool
12-31-12, 05:43
You guys are very persuasive but what I like about the DR is that is a very good deal. These Rio babes must have robo pussies. I think you guy must have a much bigger budget then me. My hard pounding days are in my rear view. I enjoy having 20 somethings in my bed and if she is 6 or 10 is not really that important to me. I also have internet chica who provide me with good service as well. I am working with a small budget that the DR facilitates. I can do several trips a year which makes me very pleased. I love the DR the food, music and women. I salsa and bachata very well which makes my time there big fun. My Spanishk is good as well. With prices being what they are I will probably never go. It is like I am happy with my toyota although I think BMWs are nice. At the end of the day they both get you where you need to go. I have to say I am curious about that majic Rio pussy.


All I have to say on this subject is this, I been to Costa Rica, Panama, and DR and other places many many times I rather spend a few days in Rio then spend a week or two in any of the those other places for FREE LOL now if you want to compare places I do like Colombia and the Colombian women they have some cute looking faces and nice asses many have huge tits if that is your thing but to me they seem like they don't enjoy it as much and they that can't take the type of pounding for a long time period like the Brazilians girls can take, and most (Colombians, or chicks from DR or other places can't fuck a long time without asking you to cum already) LOL most don't do anal either and IF they do they will charge you extra money for it $$$. LOL.

To me I was in Rio twice this month and I didn't do the type of mongering I normally do BUT then again I was working my ass off and very busy too, BUT then again I really didn't have to because if you go to Rio often you can build a team of girls you can hang out with and spend time and have fun with and don't have to pay a arm and a leg. I guess that can go for any place as far as that goes if that is your thing.

In the past I use to talk a lot about going on Facebook and chatting and hooking up with lot of girls before you even go to Brazil and some guys wanted to debate and argue about the topic so I stop talking about it, this last time around I wasn't able to monger that much BUT I was able to kick it with some dimes I knew off of Facebook and had a great time.

With the cost of things going up in Brazil (hotel, food, apts, girls) etc. And I heard Donald Trump is building some Condo's in Rio down the road which means everything will be going up even higher you have to change your game plan the days of going to Rio fucking 5-6 dimes a day like the good ole days are over for most guys you can still do it but you have to save up more money to do so or stay less days or fuck less wh@res Per day LOL

I still had fun this time around I took some guys around to a bar for drinks and where you can take out a girl if you wanted to (and we did) LOL and we hit a terma to my surprise they demanded to pay the whole bill even if I had to pay I still would rather go to Brazil over DR the last time I went to DR I wanted to catch a flight back home early that never happen to me after all the times I been to Rio.

Kid Cisco

Mr Enternational
12-31-12, 06:04
If you've been to Rio before, you should be aware of the wicked undertow at Copacabana Beach. If one is not careful, it will take you out to sea. If one is unlucky, you'll drown and your body will be found days later, probably near the Copacabana Fort.MF almost got me one day a few years back, and I am a first class swimmer and a rescue diver. I barely made it out alive. My knees were very scratched up from the sand. When you see those signs up do not go near that water.

Ipanema Carioca
12-31-12, 06:58
Plus I love the culo and that's definitely hard to get in place like DR. They look at you like you're crazy if you ask for it.Hahahaha! True on that Joe! I have yet to get the culo in DR. The best place for culo are the termas and casa, because the girls expect culo loves and usually start their shift with an enema. I wouldn't do it in DR unless at Passions, maybe. I once took a girl from terma Monte Carlo with a nice fat ass and reamed her often. Once she came to my apartment I pulled my dick out and out popped a turd! She screamed and ran to the bathroom with the sheets to wash it but ended up taking them home for laundry. She brought them back clean and folded in plastic like the local service cleaned them. So be careful with culos in DR or Rio outside a tema or tier 1 casa.

Mongmann
12-31-12, 07:37
Hahahaha! True on that Joe! I have yet to get the culo in DR. The best place for culo are the termas and casa, because the girls expect culo loves and usually start their shift with an enema. I wouldn't do it in DR unless at Passions, maybe. I once took a girl from terma Monte Carlo with a nice fat ass and reamed her often. Once she came to my apartment I pulled my dick out and out popped a turd! She screamed and ran to the bathroom with the sheets to wash it but ended up taking them home for laundry. She brought them back clean and folded in plastic like the local service cleaned them. So be careful with culos in DR or Rio outside a tema or tier 1 casa.There goes my desert. All over the floor.

Ipanema Carioca
12-31-12, 07:54
There goes my desert. All over the floor.LOL! She starred in porno movie Bubble Butt Orgy 11 the year before I met her in Monte Carlo! That was some good Brasilian culo Mongmann!

Kid Cisco
12-31-12, 09:40
You guys are very persuasive but what I like about the DR is that is a very good deal. These Rio babes must have robo pussies. I think you guy must have a much bigger budget then me. My hard pounding days are in my rear view. I enjoy having 20 somethings in my bed and if she is 6 or 10 is not really that important to me. I also have internet chica who provide me with good service as well. I am working with a small budget that the DR facilitates. I can do several trips a year which makes me very pleased. I love the DR the food, music and women. I salsa and bachata very well which makes my time there big fun. My Spanishk is good as well. With prices being what they are I will probably never go. It is like I am happy with my toyota although I think BMWs are nice. At the end of the day they both get you where you need to go. I have to say I am curious about that majic Rio pussy.OldKool,

WOW LOL LOL all this time I thought you have been to Rio before (or at least once) and you was just posting that you liked DR better then Rio but NOW after reading some of the older posts I have now notice and see that you NEVER been to Rio before LOL wow? Well that change everything to me it's hard to say what you don't like if you NEVER had it before. It is easy to say that a person is wasting their money because they rather stay at the Ritz Carlton then staying at the local Motel 6 LOL

Look my man we all have a budget and I wouldn't want to see you or anyone else go into debt over a trip, car, house, iphone, TV, Air Jordan's in this case pussy if you can't afford it. I have seen to many rookies. Newbies go to Rio and they wasn't ready for it they been going to cheap lower cost places like Thailand or DR and other places where they could get pussy a lot cheaper. I think it is sad to say that I think you have miss the good ole days when the dollar was king over the reals and guys was flying to Rio 3-4 times a year. Hell now I can go to Rio and go days without seeing a American unless I run into some that are there working for a show with me or some guys I know that live there.

But, at the end of the day and please take this the right way BUT you sound just like many of the other guys I have met in my life that NEVER been to Rio before and they talk about how great DR or Costa Rica or some of the other place they been to, BUT they always sing a different tune once they go there and they always come back and tell me you know what man? You was right LOL about Rio and most of them are mad that they waited so long to go there or that they felt they wasted their time and money going to these other places so many times and they NEVER been to Rio once. And some will try to make themselves feel justify for not going to Rio yet LOL LOL.

DR, to me is a cool place if you want to go to a nice resort with your lady and chill listen to some music and go horse back riding, eating some good food buy some cigars etc, ok if you want to fuck some avg. Chicks you can do that, BUT if you want to fuck some fine ass big booty wh@res That will allow you to fuck them as long and as hard as you want to all up in their asses Rio win hands down. There is no contest.

BUT, if you don't have the type of money to roll the way you want to it is best you stay at home or keep going to DR because I seen to many guys that go to Rio the 1st time and loose their damn minds fucking like a wild man and after a few days they are broke and then they have to hang around and eat french fries and drink cokes and ask for taxi fare to get to the Airport to fly home LOL LOL I seen a few guys that I know that live there that have loan some guys money over the years that they felt sorry for but to their credit the guys have wire the money back to them.

Kid Cisco

Salbaggio
12-31-12, 17:27
For what you guys pay these girls it is more then in my city. In the DR I have a huge options of ladies. Quality maybe but DR women are also very attractive. I have no complaints. You say the water is wetter. I am not buying it. For 40 dollars these 20 year old ladies rock my world. I think the sun is setting on Rio mongering. The prices for plane and women are no longer attractive.Man just stick with DR, I've never been there, but Rio is just an illusion about a big ass porn experience, maybe was it good 10 years ago, but now a day is just a expensive sh. Hole, with their small crap apartamentos expensive as hell, and most of the chicks suck your dick with a condom, (and suck very lousy, you can get a better blowjob from a street crack hoe in the USA than there). Of course they charge you extra money if you want to f. In the ass (some guy wrote, they don't charge, but that's not true) and after 1 min, you have to pull it out, and f. It in the pussy, very bad anal, if you can call it so, they're worse than girls in Pattaya. If you fuck a little longer they never stop asking you"meu querido vc goso"so much about a long time fucks, and in DR is after 45 minutes, like someone wrote, in Rio is after 5 minutes. Only if you have a money to blow you can go to Rio and fuck some silicone blonde hoe once for 400-500 reais ($200-250) , that's it. The golden times from Rio are gone, and would never comeback again, but illusion will be always there by the guy who went there 10-15 years ago.

JuveStadium
12-31-12, 18:01
All I have to say on this subject is this, I been to Costa Rica, Panama, and DR and other places many many times I rather spend a few days in Rio then spend a week or two in any of the those other places for FREE LOL now if you want to compare places I do like Colombia and the Colombian women they have some cute looking faces and nice asses many have huge tits if that is your thing but to me they seem like they don't enjoy it as much and they that can't take the type of pounding for a long time period like the Brazilians girls can take, and most (Colombians, or chicks from DR or other places can't fuck a long time without asking you to cum already) LOL most don't do anal either and IF they do they will charge you extra money for it $$$. LOL.

To me I was in Rio twice this month and I didn't do the type of mongering I normally do BUT then again I was working my ass off and very busy too, BUT then again I really didn't have to because if you go to Rio often you can build a team of girls you can hang out with and spend time and have fun with and don't have to pay a arm and a leg. I guess that can go for any place as far as that goes if that is your thing.

In the past I use to talk a lot about going on Facebook and chatting and hooking up with lot of girls before you even go to Brazil and some guys wanted to debate and argue about the topic so I stop talking about it, this last time around I wasn't able to monger that much BUT I was able to kick it with some dimes I knew off of Facebook and had a great time.

With the cost of things going up in Brazil (hotel, food, apts, girls) etc. And I heard Donald Trump is building some Condo's in Rio down the road which means everything will be going up even higher you have to change your game plan the days of going to Rio fucking 5-6 dimes a day like the good ole days are over for most guys you can still do it but you have to save up more money to do so or stay less days or fuck less wh@res Per day LOL

I still had fun this time around I took some guys around to a bar for drinks and where you can take out a girl if you wanted to (and we did) LOL and we hit a terma to my surprise they demanded to pay the whole bill even if I had to pay I still would rather go to Brazil over DR the last time I went to DR I wanted to catch a flight back home early that never happen to me after all the times I been to Rio.

Kid CiscoYeah man, RIGHT you fuck for free down there, I don't care how much is somebody paying for a pussy down there, you have this rich guys who live there, mostly retired guys, and some short time visitor 10 days, they'll pay anything what this women ask for (That's their business) but, I'm not going to pay for a silicone hoe in termas $200-250, for a fuck, I don't care how she looks like, porn star or not (You can fuck anywhere in the world for that kind of money even in ALASKA) , and $100-200 per day, for a small shitty apartment in Copacabana, that's just not my style. Everybody who likes is go head.

Almotu
12-31-12, 18:06
You guys are very persuasive but what I like about the DR is that is a very good deal. These Rio babes must have robo-pussies. I think you guy must have a much bigger budget then me. My hard pounding days are in my rear view. I enjoy having 20 somethings in my bed and if she is 6 or 10 is not really that important to me. I also have internet chica who provide me with good service as well. I am working with a small budget that the DR facilitates. I can do several trips a year which makes me very pleased. I love the DR the food, music and women. I salsa and bachata very well which makes my time there big fun. My Spanish is good as well. With prices being what they are I will probably never go. It is like I am happy with my toyota although I think BMWs are nice. At the end of the day they both get you where you need to go. I have to say I am curious about that magic Rio pussy.Once again, if you are happy with what you are getting then stay with it. I really don't see the point in trying to CONVINCE you but if you are hung up on the budget of which the most expensive is the airfare then just take the airfare out of the equation and get a ticket using frequent flyer rewards. You will still pay more in Rio but the difference in pricing will be a lot closer.

Sperto
12-31-12, 19:39
According to witnesses, the helicopter was trying to rescue a person, who was drowning, when it developed problems. The helicopter, which was flying low, lost stability, fell into the water and sank.That day the helicopter was very active. On the beach where I was sitting the helicopter rescued 5 people with the net. The lifeguards om the beach picked up at least a dozen people. It looks quite risky when the chopper flyes so low, just over the tips of the waves.

It seems like many of the people that gets saved by the lifeguards are suburbanos. They go to the beach. Sits down and eats their faroffa, drinks too many beer and pinga. Then they goes for a dip, forgetting that they can't swim.

Almotu
01-01-13, 00:58
Man just stick with DR, I've never been there, but Rio is just an illusion about a big ass porn experience, maybe was it good 10 years ago, but now a day is just a expensive sh. Hole, with their small crap apartamentos expensive as hell, and most of the chicks suck your dick with a condom, (and suck very lousy, you can get a better blowjob from a street crack hoe in the USA than there). Of course they charge you extra money if you want to f. In the ass (some guy wrote, they don't charge, but that's not true) and after 1 min, you have to pull it out, and f. It in the pussy, very bad anal, if you can call it so, they're worse than girls in Pattaya. If you fuck a little longer they never stop asking you"meu querido vc goso"so much about a long time fucks, and in DR is after 45 minutes, like someone wrote, in Rio is after 5 minutes. Only if you have a money to blow you can go to Rio and fuck some silicone blonde hoe once for 400-500 reais ($200-250) , that's it. The golden times from Rio are gone, and would never comeback again, but illusion will be always there by the guy who went there 10-15 years ago.And you should stick to Kenya. You seem to be pretty active on that section of ISG.

Keep this thread for us 'delusional' mongers.

Devilspinkick
01-01-13, 01:15
And you should stick to Kenya. You seem to be pretty active on that section of ISG.

Keep this thread for us 'delusional' mongers.Agreed, in reference to Salbaggio. To each their own but I say if you don't like Brazil then don't go. You won't be missed by the Brasileiras nor by those of us that know how to have a good time.

This forum has way too many pretenders, cheapskates & dirt bags. Sometimes I wonder how many of the posters on ISG actually travel the world and *monger (maybe 10%). I'd bet the majority of folks that post on ISG haven't ever left their home country.

- DSK

BigTennis
01-01-13, 01:24
Before you buy your ticket, check out bacc travel. I just got my ticket from there and it was the cheapest I found online. I'm staying in copa from jan8 through the 21. But I have family there so I don't have to worry about renting a place. It all depends how much you want to spend my friend. Copa and inpanema is probably going to be the most expensive if you planing on renting or staying in a hotel. Good luck! And safe travel!I'm going to post again and hopefully someone will answer with some input.

BigTennis
01-01-13, 01:35
I'll be in Orlando until Monday and then I plan to get on a plane to one of the following places. Bogota, Medellin or Rio. In Bogota and Medellin I have non pro contacts under 22 and can pretty much have the cookie under the sheets within a few hours of landing.

I really want to go to Brazil but all this talk about prices and packed beaches and hassles are not very motivating. Plus I freaken looked for a hotel and apartment for a few hours yesterday and got a headache from it. Can't someone just tell me where a good one bedroom is that is around 100 bucks and allow me to play some tennis, learn a new country and hangout with some Brazilians. Should I just hop on a plane and worry about sleeping when I get there? Listen I promise I am a normal everyday guy and I'm not cheap and will represent americans just fine in Rio!

Maybe I should wait until high season is over and just do Colombia. Again. 15th time!

OldKool
01-01-13, 01:48
When the big money pours in will they kill monger venues. This may be the excuse to kill the sex trade. Rio has an international repetatiion.


Agreed, in reference to Salbaggio. To each their own but I say if you don't like Brazil then don't go. You won't be missed by the Brasileiras nor by those of us that know how to have a good time.

This forum has way too many pretenders, cheapskates & dirt bags. Sometimes I wonder how many of the posters on ISG actually travel the world and *monger (maybe 10%). I'd bet the majority of folks that post on ISG haven't ever left their home country.

- DSK

Almotu
01-01-13, 02:38
When the big money pours in will they kill monger venues. This may be the excuse to kill the sex trade. Rio has an international reputation.Of course, the scene will take a hit. Of course, everything costs more now versus when the exchange rate was over 3R to the dollar. But if you are just a tiny bit curious about Rio as a destination you need to read the board to be well informed and read Bubba Boy's guide. Several Copacabana establishments have already closed probably as part of a pre-World Cup, pre-Olympics 'clean-up'. But don't be swayed by bullshit numbers tossed about by posters like JuveStadium & Salbaggio (probably the same guy), these are the actual prices that you can expect to pay in Rio as detailed in Bubba Boy's guide. Currrent Exchange Rate on the street should be about 2R to the dollar.

Zona Sul Termas = Monte Carlo (MC) = 400R for one 40min session with 1 girl (paying full entrance fee, room fee & no drinks)

Solarium (not in Copacabana) = 425R for one 40min session with 1 girl (paying full entrance fee, room fee & no drinks)

Centro Termas = 4x4 and Cancun = 290R for one 60min session with 1 girl.

Termas 65 = 320R for one 40min session with 1 girl.

T502 = 180R for 40min session.

Prives (private apartments, daytime action until 7:30pm) = 80-120R for 60mins.

With the termas, there are ways to get discounts which are well documented in Bubba Boy's guide. So strictly based on numbers, you can get some action in Rio from $40 all the way up to $213 YMMV (your mileage may vary) based on your expectations. It's completely up to you whether you end up with "some silicone blonde hoe" or not.

Exec Talent
01-01-13, 10:54
The organizers of last night Copacabana New Year's Eve celebration deserve a pat on the back. Not only were the fireworks by far the best I have ever seen, but also the whole process of people getting there was well planned out and executed. My Brazilian friends actually were making positive comments about the government which is something that never happens. Tunnels to Copa from both sides were closed to all but foot traffic. Buses were lined up after the show to take people to the outlying areas.

My friends and I watched the show from well above the beach and the fireworks being shot off from what looked like 8 barges were spectacular.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLLBQhC3KpI

JuveStadium
01-01-13, 16:42
Of course, the scene will take a hit. Of course, everything costs more now versus when the exchange rate was over 3R to the dollar. But if you are just a tiny bit curious about Rio as a destination you need to read the board to be well informed and read Bubba Boy's guide. Several Copacabana establishments have already closed probably as part of a pre-World Cup, pre-Olympics 'clean-up'. But don't be swayed by bullshit numbers tossed about by posters like JuveStadium & Salbaggio (probably the same guy) , these are the actual prices that you can expect to pay in Rio as detailed in Bubba Boy's guide. Currrent Exchange Rate on the street should be about 2R to the dollar.

Zona Sul Termas = Monte Carlo (MC) = 400R for one 40min session with 1 girl (paying full entrance fee, room fee & no drinks)

Solarium (not in Copacabana) = 425R for one 40min session with 1 girl (paying full entrance fee, room fee & no drinks)

Centro Termas = 4x4 and Cancun = 290R for one 60min session with 1 girl.

Termas 65 = 320R for one 40min session with 1 girl.

T502 = 180R for 40min session.

Prives (private apartments, daytime action until 7:30pm) = 80-120R for 60mins.

With the termas, there are ways to get discounts which are well documented in Bubba Boy's guide. So strictly based on numbers, you can get some action in Rio from $40 all the way up to $213 YMMV (your mileage may vary) based on your expectations. It's completely up to you whether you end up with "some silicone blonde hoe" or not.Nice try about pricing 425R even more what I wrote R400-$200 (LOL). I'm never been to Kenya, and I'm Still in Rio. Some other things what I don't like about a brasilian hoes, they have 2 totally different kind of sex."Sex for gringos"and "Sex for brasileiros". Sex for gringos is of course much more expensive and less good, you have to buy them, drinks, food or whatever, suck with a condom, extra charge for anal sex (1 min) , if they agree to do, and complaining about everything all the time (your room, your skin, t-shirt, light, face, I got a girl who was complaining about my nose.) Just to distract you, and steal so much of your time as possible. Sex for brasileiros is much cheaper, no condom by suck, no extra anal charge, and no complains about anything, they would fuck with them anywhere, street, beach, toilets. I got a only one woman, who was treating me the same way as brasileiros, until she found out that I was gringo, immediately she wanted more money, and of course I stopped to go to her (She was older over 30, ugly ass hell, but with a very sexy body) , like most of the brasileiras"ugly face nice ass". They called them self piranhas, and that's the real name for them.

Salbaggio
01-01-13, 17:02
And you should stick to Kenya. You seem to be pretty active on that section of ISG.

Keep this thread for us 'delusional' mongers.Did I tell you where to go? I can go where I want to go. If you like to go to Rio and pay for a 1 shot $200, go head who cares, for me is just not worth it.

JuveStadium
01-01-13, 17:21
I'm going to post again and hopefully someone will answer with some input.If you have a lot of money to spend than go to Rio, if you don't, than it's going to be difficult.