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Sperto
07-25-20, 15:26
New Years celebration with fireworks on Copacabana beach is cancelled. Very propably the carnaval 2021 will be cancelled as well.
https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2020/07/5958250-reveillon-da-pandemia--rio-de-janeiro-nao-tera-queima-de-fogos-em-copacabana.html

Hobbying
07-26-20, 06:28
New Years celebration with fireworks on Copacabana beach is cancelled. Very propably the carnaval 2021 will be cancelled as well.
https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2020/07/5958250-reveillon-da-pandemia--rio-de-janeiro-nao-tera-queima-de-fogos-em-copacabana.htmlThey cancelled the carnaval in Sao Paulo.

Rio Bob
07-26-20, 16:47
New Years celebration with fireworks on Copacabana beach is cancelled. Very propably the carnaval 2021 will be cancelled as well.
https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2020/07/5958250-reveillon-da-pandemia--rio-de-janeiro-nao-tera-queima-de-fogos-em-copacabana.htmlBad news, if you don't have these events then you don't need tourists. I think the airlines already got the message because for early next year American Airlines for example cancelled their nonstops from NY to GIG and they had 2 nonstops from Miami now only one daily and from Houston they route you through Miami. So reduced capacity for sure. I don't see any airlines having a nonstop anymore from NY, too bad Iv'e enjoyed this for quite some time now but will have to adapt for changing times. Well Carnaval is 6 months away, this lockdown is only 4 months old now, perhaps things will open up. What about you few guys on the ground now, when did you get in? Before the lockdowns? I know one got tested for HIV, what about Covid LOL, are girls still available in the places downtown and MABS? Are girls walking around with masks? No more DFK? LOL.

Mr Enternational
07-26-20, 17:06
New Years celebration with fireworks on Copacabana beach is cancelled. Very propably the carnaval 2021 will be cancelled as well.
https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2020/07/5958250-reveillon-da-pandemia--rio-de-janeiro-nao-tera-queima-de-fogos-em-copacabana.htmlThis makes me happy. When I was down there for carnaval I ended up booking a place for New Years. It was like $42/day. The owners wrote to me wanting to cancel because they had not jacked the price up yet. I fought them about it, but they still canceled. Hotelsdot gave me a $100 voucher for the inconvenience. I hope they end up with no renter for that shit since stuff is canceled.

Infelizmente ando poderemos confirmar sua reserva. O calendrio foi aberto por engano enquanto ainda estvamos ajustando o anncio. Pedimos que entre them contato com a Expedia solicitando o cancelamento. J fechamos o calendrio completamente. Estamos tentando cancelar a reserva por aqui tambm. Obrigada e desculpe o engano.

Vagabundo1
07-27-20, 03:17
Today, Sunday, I scouted out a condominium across the street from my current spot, Transamerica. This is the Riviera del fiori, which has a open pool. I kind of talked my way into the pool and jumped into the pool for some laps, then made friends. Tomorrow, I have a visit scheduled.

The price quoted is 2800 r / mes for a 2 bedroom apartment with a kitchen, and of course a veranda, and most importantly an open pool, gym, and kitchen. Here in Transamerica, the pool is closed but supposed to be opening in August. So I may give it another month. The main draw would be to check out the pool scene because as I have said, Transamerica is basically a prostitute / hooker / ho-tel no tel. It is great!

But, let me just monger on, describing my last few days.

Tonight, I have a regular sleeping next to me. She came over, we did the usual eat / fuck while watching my playlist from evilangel.com. She's a regular, and we get along well, will do a pernoite. I pay 400 reais.

Saturday morning, at about 0300, I went to Mosaico and Vila Mimosa. It is rocking! The top talent at Mosico is worth the 30 r entrada. I got 2 or 3 numbers. As usual most girls want you to do a session. The best girls are so hot, top tier terma talent.

But there are not a lot of negras in Mosaico.

Vila Mimosa is back in full swing, and that is where the best Negras are. I finally pulled the trigger at about 0600 with a little 19 year old darling mulatta with a fresh face, nice natural titties, and a sweet pussy. I was her first fuck as she had just arrived. I had been trying to session with her, so glad I did.

I paid 70 r which is what, 14 united states dollars. Woo hooo.

I had earlier on Friday banged my new Rio wife, a 22 year old negra who is giving me her three holes bare. Our birth control is I cum up her ass, which I did twice that day after marathon banging her pussy. Anyway, she comes over at 1100, we fuck all afternoon. She was supposed to do pernoite, and she kind of tried to change the deal, so I kind of blew her off for a few hours while I left her in barra while I took buses around Rio. To be exact, I took the 302 bus from barra garden shopping to rodoviaria, the bus station. I like getting to know the local bus routes. This route goes over boa vista. It is beautiful, even at night. I love riding the buses, mainly for the people watching. The locals love their uber, and I can understand why. But I hate paying the extra expense, and I love the bus. Apparently Germans love riding the local buses to get cheap tours. I could not agree more. Anyway, I ended up paying her 300 r for the 8 hours she stayed with me. I hate overpaying. I do love her three holes.

All is well.

Looking forward to seeing some of you on the ground again.

Exec Talent
07-27-20, 12:43
This makes me happy. When I was down there for carnaval I ended up booking a place for New Years. It was like $42/day. The owners wrote to me wanting to cancel because they had not jacked the price up yet. I fought them about it, but they still canceled. Hotelsdot gave me a $100 voucher for the inconvenience. I hope they end up with no renter for that shit since stuff is canceled.

Infelizmente ando poderemos confirmar sua reserva. O calendrio foi aberto por engano enquanto ainda estvamos ajustando o anncio. Pedimos que entre them contato com a Expedia solicitando o cancelamento. J fechamos o calendrio completamente. Estamos tentando cancelar a reserva por aqui tambm. Obrigada e desculpe o engano.There are few things, the world over, that women fine more attractive than a man who constantly bickers with everyone over a few dollars.

The term "Cheap Bastard" doesn't even require a translation.

Vagabundo1
07-27-20, 23:05
https://markmanson.net/brazil

Above is a link to a very, very insightful and on target essay about the differences between Brazil and America. Without agreeing or disagreeing with the Exec Talent or the other fellow ISG members, I will just say that I think the author in his piece, which I quote below, absolutely nails it. While I agree with Exec Talent's sarcastic point that women hate a cheap bastard, I also absolutely hate that all or most Brazilians are super cheap with Americans, or all foreigners, yet, especially now are so damn desperate for our dinheiro. Mark Manson nails it in that the normal Brazilian justifies this selfishness for her community, while absolutely despising and looking down on all outside her little circle.

Dear Brazil,

Carnaval is over. The "real" new year is finally beginning. And tomorrow, I will be leaving, returning to my country.

Like most gringos, I originally came to Brazil for the parties, the beaches, and the girls. Little did I know that I would spend the majority of the next four years within your borders. I would learn a lot about your culture, your language, your customs, and by the end of this year, I will marry one of your girls.

It's no secret that there are big problems in Brazil. There's a political crisis, an economic crisis, constant safety concerns, huge income inequality, and now with the outbreak of Zika, apparently a health crisis.

Over the years, I have met many Brazilians who have asked me, "Why?" Why is Brazil so screwed up? Why are countries in Europe and North America so prosperous and safe while Brazil continues to go through the same cycles of growth and collapse over and over again?

In the past, I've had theoretical conversations about systems of government, colonial histories, economic policies, and so on. These are clearly some valid explanations for the problems. But lately, I've come to another conclusion. A conclusion that many people would probably find offensive, but upon mentioning it to a few of my Brazilian friends, they urged me to write about it and share it.

So here it is: it's you.

You are the problem.

Yes, you reading this, you are the problem. I'm sure you don't mean to be, but you are actively participating in the problem and perpetuating it. Every day.

Because it's not just about Dilma or PT. It's not the banks or the construction companies or Petrobras or even the crappy Real.

It is the culture. It is the beliefs and mindsets that form the foundation of how the Brazilian people choose to think about their lives and their country.

The problem is what you and everyone around you has decided to accept as OK, even when nothing about it is OK.

Imagine you are riding in the car with your friend late one night. Your friend is driving down a dark street with nobody on it. He has been drinking and he's not paying attention when suddenly he crashes into an expensive parked car. Before anybody can see what happened, he drives off.

The next day, the police knock on your door mentioning that a car was damaged on a street nearby and they're wondering if you know anything about it.

What would you do? Would you: A) lie and say you don't know anything and protect your friend? Or B) tell the officer what happened and force your friend to take responsibility for his mistake.

I believe most Brazilians would choose A. I believe most gringos would choose be. And this is essentially why gringo countries are rich and functional and Brazil is not. In gringo countries, there is a sense that justice and responsibility are more important than any specific individual. It is a social consciousness. It is the bedrock of a highly functional society and to ignore it is a form of selfishness.

Most Brazilians have sacrificed a great deal for their family and their closest friends and because of this, they don't believe they are selfish.

But I believe that Brazilian culture is inherently selfish. Only caring about your family and close friends is still a form of selfishness.

You know all of those corrupt politicians and businessmen and police and workers unions? You know why they're corrupt? I guarantee you that almost every corrupt Brazilian official justifies the lying and stealing to themselves by saying, "I'm doing this for my family. " They want to give their family a better life, send their kid to a better school, move and live in a safer neighborhood.

A Brazilian will regularly screw over strangers in order to benefit their family and then call it altruism. This is not altruism. Altruism is giving up your own interests for strangers and for the greater good of society at large.

But there's also a vanity involved. I was surprised when I first learned that calling somebody "vain" in Portuguese is not seen as insulting as it is in English. Now I believe this is another key distinction between the two cultures.

A few weeks ago, my fiancee and I traveled to a famous beach in Brazil. We were disappointed. The water was dirty. The beach was ugly. The famous rock nearby was half the size we expected.

When we returned to São Paulo and told some friends this, their first response was, "Well, you still took pictures in front of it, right?

It seems like such a small and innocent statement, but to me, it illustrates the core of another problem with Brazilian culture: people care way more about how they appear than how they actually are.

Now, Brazil isn't the only country with this problem, but I find it more extreme here than almost anywhere else I've ever been.

It's why rich Brazilians will gladly spend two or three times more for a shirt or piece of jewelry than they should or hire nannies and housekeepers when they could easily raise their own kids and clean the house themselves: because it makes them look and feel more rich. It's why Brazilians buy everything in 12 or 24 installments: because they want to look like they can afford a television when they actually can't. It's why some poor Brazilians are willing to shoot somebody for a motorbike or kidnap a person for a few thousand reais: because they want to appear successful without contributing to society to earn it.

A lot of gringos believe that Brazilians are lazy. I don't think Brazilians are lazy. On the contrary, Brazilians have more energy than most other people I've seen in the world (see: Carnaval).

The problem is that Brazilians focus all of their energy on vanity instead of productivity, on appearing popular and glamorous rather than actually doing something to make them popular or glamorous, on making others think they are successful rather than actually being successful.

Vanity is not happiness. Vanity is a bullshit Photoshopped version of happiness. It looks nice but it isn't real and it definitely does not last.

Vanity is self-defeating. If you need to buy something that's way more expensive than it should be to feel special, then you are not special. If you need to pay someone to make you feel special, then you are not special. If you need to hurt somebody or lie to somebody or cheat somebody to feel successful, then you are not successful. In this case, shortcuts do not work.

Instead, what vanity does is causes you to tolerate shitty behavior from those around you. When you're so concerned about what others think about you, that others will see you as glamorous or fun or popular, you are willing to tolerate bad relationships where your partner constantly cheats on you, bad friendships where your friends are disrespectful towards you, or bad family relationships where you are left unappreciated and unheard.

In Brazil, if someone is an hour late, everybody else stops and waits for them. If someone wants to leave and go on their own, then they are an asshole. If somebody in a family fucks up and wastes all of their money, other members of the family are supposed to give money to them. If somebody in the family gets a great job and makes a lot of money, they're supposed to give money to everybody else. If someone in a group of friends doesn't want to do something, everyone else is expected to not do it. If someone in a group of friends wants to do something on their own, they're seen as ant****ial and selfish.

As a gringo who generally doesn't care what people think about me, I find it very hard to not see these situations as disrespectful and self-sabotaging. In circumstance after circumstance, I watch Brazilians reward the victim and socially punish the person who independently succeeds.

When you reward a person for failing or losing or doing something wrong, you give them no incentive to ever improve or get better. In fact, you make them completely reliant on those around them rather than teaching them how to support themselves and how to create something out of themselves.

When you punish somebody for being more successful than others, you discourage the most talented and ambitious from creating the progress and innovation that the country needs. You hold back the very people that are going to pull you out of this mess in the first place and you make room for the manipulative and mediocre leaders to take their place.

Don't you see? When you socially punish people for their successes, then the only way to be successful is to be a lying, deceitful asshole. That is, you get Brazil.

Sometimes the best thing you can do to a friend who is always late is to leave without them. Because this forces them to learn how to manage their time and respect other people's time.

Sometimes the best thing you can do to a person who wasted all their money is let them struggle and be desperate for a while. Because that's the only way they will learn to be responsible in the future.

Sometimes the best thing you can say to a family member who is upset is simply to "get over it" because how else will they ever move on with their life?

I don't want this to sound like I'm the gringo who knows everything. I don't. And god knows my country is pretty fucked up too (I've already written a 15-page article about fucked up shit in the US).

But soon, Brazil, you will be a permanent part of my life. You will be part of my family. You will be my friend. You will be half of my child when I have one.

And it's because of this, I feel I must share all of this with you openly, honestly, and with the love in which one friend speaks frankly to another, even though it hurts.

And also, because it's not going to get better.

Maybe you already realize this. But if you don't, then I will be the one to tell you: it's not going to get better anytime soon. Your government will simply not be able to pay everything it owes soon unless you redo your entire constitution. The big businesses that drive your economy borrowed way too much cheap money back in 2008-2010 and they're probably not going to be able to pay it back. Many of them will go bankrupt in the coming years causing an even worse crisis. Commodities prices are at extreme lows and show no signs of going higher, meaning there's no more money coming into the country. You are a population of debtors and over-spenders in a shrinking job market and your taxes are so high that they are strangling productivity out of the population.

You are fucked. You can get rid of Dilma. You can get rid of PT. You can lower taxes and redo your constitution (and you should), but it doesn't matter. The mistakes were already made years ago and you are going to have to live through it.

You are looking at at least 5-10 years of lost opportunities. If you are a young Brazilian, much of what you grew up expecting to achieve will no longer be available. If you are an adult in your 30's or 40's, your best economic years are likely behind you. If you are over 50, well, you've seen this movie before, haven't you?

It's the same old story, just a different decade. Democracy did not fix the problem. A strong Real did not fix the problem. Bringing millions of people out of poverty did not fix the problem.

The problem remains. Because the problem is the mentality of the people. The problem is certain facets of what is an otherwise beautiful and exuberant culture.

O jeitinho must die. The toxic vanity must die. The lack of accountability in your relationships must die. And the only way to kill these things is through enough Brazilians consciously choosing to change them within themselves.

Unlike the external revolutions that have been so common throughout your history, your revolution needs to be internal, a coup that takes place inside your heart and inside your mind.

You must choose to see things in a new way. You must set new standards and expectations for yourself and for others. You must demand that your time be respected. You must expect the people around you to be accountable for their actions. You must prioritize a safe and strong society above your own interests or the interests of your family and friends. You must let those around you handle their own problems, just as you must not expect anyone else to handle yours.

These are the choices that must be made every day. And until this internal revolution takes place, I fear you are destined to repeat the same mistakes for many more generations to come.

There is a joy inside Brazil that is both rare and special. It's what attracted me to this country many years ago and it will keep me coming back. I just hope that one day that joy has the society it deserves.

Your friend,

Mark.


There are few things, the world over, that women fine more attractive than a man who constantly bickers with everyone over a few dollars.

The term "Cheap Bastard" doesn't even require a translation.

Mr Enternational
07-28-20, 02:19
Above is a link to a very, very insightful and on target essay... Over the years, I have met many Brazilians who have asked me, "Why?" Why is Brazil so screwed up? Why are countries in Europe and North America so prosperous and safe while Brazil continues to go through the same cycles of growth and collapse over and over again?Affordable credit coupled with the willingness and ability to pay it back. And if that fails, there is bankruptcy court to fall back on. Plus a touch of socialism. This makes it easy for the average Joe to purchase things such as a house, car, education, vacation, etc. So whereas most countries consist of the haves and have nots, we also have the people with credit.

Barring murder, I am not going to tell on any of my friends either. In the USA you do not find a courtroom full of the defendant's friends as witnesses for the prosecution as the author of that piece would have you believe.

Mr Enternational
07-28-20, 02:29
There are few things, the world over, that women fine more attractive than a man who constantly bickers with everyone over a few dollars.

The term "Cheap Bastard" doesn't even require a translation.Exactly. No idea why that apartment owner would bicker about someone wanting to pay the price that was advertised.

Of course the woman may not find the bickering attractive and may find the term cheap bastard acceptable, until she is the one that is expected to pay. That is when you find out who the real cheap bastard is. It is easy to freely spend money that belongs to others as most women have the pleasure of doing. It is great not having the pressure to impress anyone.

DavidSchmauch
07-28-20, 03:10
True, I agree with you that vanity is a major part of Brazilian culture (my wife is Brazilian as well as yours and we live in the US, unfortunately paying $1600 a month for a studio apartment in the suburbs), so I'm not sure if you are planning to live in the US with your future wife (if so then I agree with you over all the bad things you wrote about Brazil), but if not and if you will live with her in Brazil because you have some savings so that you can stretch your dollar hundreds of times Most of us gringos go to Brazil because our women are dysfunctional and useless and because Brazil is dirt cheap. Admit it.


https://markmanson.net/brazil

Above is a link to a very, very insightful and on target essay about the differences between Brazil and America. Without agreeing or disagreeing with the Exec Talent or the other fellow ISG members, I will just say that I think the author in his piece, which I quote below, absolutely nails it. While I agree with Exec Talent's sarcastic point that women hate a cheap bastard, I also absolutely hate that all or most Brazilians are super cheap with Americans, or all foreigners, yet, especially now are so damn desperate for our dinheiro. Mark Manson nails it in that the normal Brazilian justifies this selfishness for her community, while absolutely despising and looking down on all outside her little circle.

Dear Brazil,

Carnaval is over. The "real" new year is finally beginning. And tomorrow, I will be leaving, returning to my country.

Like most gringos, I originally came to Brazil for the parties, the beaches, and the girls. Little did I know that I would spend the majority of the next four years within your borders. I would learn a lot about your culture, your language, your customs, and by the end of this year, I will marry one of your girls..

Hobbying
07-28-20, 06:02
There is one sentence that sums this up, pretty much the whole Brazilian society is about living for today and worry about tomorrow later. They want to live now and be happy now and that is the beauty of their culture but also makes future plans unstable / unreliable.

I've told many Brazilians about the concept of 401 k and they just don't buy in to it, they rather spend the money now and worry about future later.

Plenty of GDPs want to save money and buy a nice car and house / apt. However, they have no thought about how much they need to maintain a nice car or house. I've seen the same girls in the same boite working there for over 10+ years.


https://markmanson.net/brazil

Above is a link to a very, very insightful and on target essay about the differences between Brazil and America. Without agreeing or disagreeing with the Exec Talent or the other fellow ISG members, I will just say that I think the author in his piece, which I quote below, absolutely nails it. While I agree with Exec Talent's sarcastic point that women hate a cheap bastard, I also absolutely hate that all or most Brazilians are super cheap with Americans, or all foreigners, yet, especially now are so damn desperate for our dinheiro. Mark Manson nails it in that the normal Brazilian justifies this selfishness for her community, while absolutely despising and looking down on all outside her little circle.

Dear Brazil,

Carnaval is over. The "real" new year is finally beginning. And tomorrow, I will be leaving, returning to my country.

Like most gringos, I originally came to Brazil for the parties, the beaches, and the girls. Little did I know that I would spend the majority of the next four years within your borders. I would learn a lot about your culture, your language, your customs, and by the end of this year, I will marry one of your girls.

It's no secret that there are big problems in Brazil. There's a political crisis, an economic crisis, constant safety concerns, huge income inequality, and now with the outbreak of Zika, apparently a health crisis..

Java Man
07-28-20, 08:49
New Years celebration with fireworks on Copacabana beach is cancelled.https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2020/07/5958250-reveillon-da-pandemia--rio-de-janeiro-nao-tera-queima-de-fogos-em-copacabana.htmlNot Cancelled per the Mayor. It'll be different, but not in Copacabana Beach. There will be fireworks. They're still deciding How, what and where. Wait and See.

https://odia.ig.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/2020/07/5958881--reveillon-nao-foi-adiado-e-nao-foi-cancelado---afirma-crivella.html

Vagabundo1
07-28-20, 14:21
That's a good point, and the original post by Exec Talent, who is a solid contributor to the board was smart too.

Some parts of the article I found true.

That said, being cheap is a characteristic I see in almost all Brazilians. I don't see that as a bad thing, just a reflection of the realities of being in Brazil which is a very primal place, back to the jungle.


Exactly. No idea why that apartment owner would bicker about someone wanting to pay the price that was advertised.

Of course the woman may not find the bickering attractive and may find the term cheap bastard acceptable, until she is the one that is expected to pay. That is when you find out who the real cheap bastard is. It is easy to freely spend money that belongs to others as most women have the pleasure of doing. It is great not having the pressure to impress anyone.

Vagabundo1
07-28-20, 14:29
I got up with the Rio wife and fucked to evilangel.com fashionistas.

We did go check out the Riviera condominium. The 2 bedroom apartment with a balcony had no refrigerator, no oven and no bed for couples. It also was quoted at 4400 r, and would not be ready by 29 July. So I am in transamerica for another month, hoping the pool will be open.

Praca olavo bilac 28 sala 507 and sala 409 had 2 garotas each, a 4 or 5. These are standard prives, with some quickie pricing going down to 40 r.

Boate 13 at the same street was decent midday when I visited.

A few weeks ago I visited prives in RB156, each had 2 girls each, a 5 or 6.

The hottest girls I am seeing are in transamerica (av gastao senges 395), just go to the reception and they are constantly walking in and out. The hottest say they have boyfriends or husbands. Some real 9 or 10.

Vagabundo1
07-28-20, 17:01
The one thing I will say about Brazilians is that they are very frugal, or, in other words, cheap.

A few of my friends who are in Rio now made a few points a few months back.

First, this covid thing is probably leading to a depression, or at least a recession.

Second, Brazilians are used to living in poverty.

So, it is safer, ironically, to be in Brazil than rich world countries like America.

I wholly agree with this.

Being frugal is not a bad thing, actually it is good.

In the Transamerica hotel I live in all the girls quote 450 but will accept 300. But, I bring in my regulars, and destroy those economics. I pay 300 or 400 pernoite. One or two orgasms at night, one in the morning.

Brazilians are great people. They are super fit, happy, work out alot, are fun to be around.


Affordable credit coupled with the willingness and ability to pay it back. And if that fails, there is bankruptcy court to fall back on. Plus a touch of socialism. This makes it easy for the average Joe to purchase things such as a house, car, education, vacation, etc. So whereas most countries consist of the haves and have nots, we also have the people with credit.

Barring murder, I am not going to tell on any of my friends either. In the USA you do not find a courtroom full of the defendant's friends as witnesses for the prosecution as the author of that piece would have you believe.

Xpartan
07-29-20, 06:12
Barring murder, I am not going to tell on any of my friends either. In the USA you do not find a courtroom full of the defendant's friends as witnesses for the prosecution as the author of that piece would have you believe.Yep, that part stopped me in my tracks too, even if his other observations make perfect sense.

Turgid
07-29-20, 15:07
The one thing I will say about Brazilians is that they are very frugal, or, in other words, cheap..............If you hang out with rich Brazilians you will realize that not all Brazilians are cheap.

Exec Talent
07-29-20, 19:51
Think it is a matter of perspective. When I see post after post from the same individual complaining about money, saying how he did this or that to avoid paying and have had personal contact which only reinforced my perception, I think I got it right.

In Rio, I was known as the guy who walked into the kitchen and handed out money to the cooks at my favorite churrascaria. When an owner of an apartment in Rio tried to go around Bobby and rent the apartment to me directly, I turned her down. Been known to tell suppliers their prices were too low and that I would be paying more because I wanted them around for the long term. Same goes for contractors to whom I paid bonuses that were not part of the contracts. As we navigate through COVID-19, I have tried to patronize businesses and individuals who are struggling, not taking advantage of their special deals and paying cash.

Maybe it just struck me that with all the personal tragedies and suffering, that once again, someone only thought about themselves and their wallet.

Kcrl01
07-30-20, 01:42
Think it is a matter of perspective. When I see post after post from the same individual complaining about money, saying how he did this or that to avoid paying and have had personal contact which only reinforced my perception, I think I got it right.

In Rio, I was known as the guy who walked into the kitchen and handed out money to the cooks at my favorite churrascaria. When an owner of an apartment in Rio tried to go around Bobby and rent the apartment to me directly, I turned her down. Been known to tell suppliers their prices were too low and that I would be paying more because I wanted them around for the long term. Same goes for contractors to whom I paid bonuses that were not part of the contracts. As we navigate through COVID-19, I have tried to patronize businesses and individuals who are struggling, not taking advantage of their special deals and paying cash.

Maybe it just struck me that with all the personal tragedies and suffering, that once again, someone only thought about themselves and their wallet.I live in a 45 meter square studio flat (with lots of big windows) in Sao Paulo. Needed a cleaning lady, my real estate guy recommended one. She came by took a look at the place, gave me a quote for real $100 / per once a week visit for the estimated 3 hours work to clean the place. Told her no, I'll pay you real $300/ per visit! We closed the deal at that! My real estate guy told me she has two kids and works evenings as a hairdresser.

Jubby007
07-30-20, 02:44
It's a very sad situation for Brazil at the moment with the pandemic being in full force and killing so many Brazilians. I can't imagine anyone even considering going there now, looking at the situation. But also considering how fast he disease is spreading, beyond control like it seems, and if it goes on like this, the situation will be very different after some months. Cases and deaths will drop to low numbers, just like what happened in places which also has been seriously affected. That's what happed in Wuhan, North of Italy and New York City for example. If the spread of Corona goes on like it does now, Brazil might even reach herd immunity, or at least a degree of immunity within the population, that will slow down the pandemic very much. And especially in the regions that are most affected, like Sao Paulo and Rio for example. I think the situation will be very different, and better, as we will be getting closer to the summer in Brazil. If it will be good enough for tourists to want to come back remains to be seen. If a vaccine will be available like next year or so, I hope it will help the situation not only in Brazil but also in the rest of the world. Let's hope a vaccine will be available sometimes next year.I want to plan my next trip to Brazil but I don't know when next because Brazil has became a no 2 hotspot of diseases right now. No. 2 in the world for covid-19. It is a changed world. I used to monger around in Brazil now I am a lawyer in UK and own few transport companies. But I am going back to USA. I'm USA citizen became transfer to UK for study purpose but now. I did LLb and now I'm 2 exams left LLM. I was best student of M A finance was trying to my Ph. The BUT decided to change venue. I got properties in4 counties I'm successful. But the point is what is the futre of TERMA. I'm very scared. I loved HELP gone now TERMA gone? What are we going to do?

Sperto
07-30-20, 14:31
Brazil reopens international flights to tourists with valid health insurance. There are some restrictions.
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2020/07/brasil-deve-reabrir-fronteira-para-estrangeiro-com-seguro-saude-e-teste-negativo-de-covid.shtml

Interesting that they make this decision considering the current Covid-19 situation in Brazil. I'm happy I'm not in Brazil right now. Imagine if I would pass by 20 privées in one day and kiss over 100 girls on the cheeks, riding on crowded buses and metros (of course, Uber is an option). Social distance must be impossible for Rio-mongers.

I wonder if the privées have changed their hygienic routines? In Belprazer or Dudas, does 20 girls present themselves wearing face masks? What about blowjobs and face masks? Maybe somebody can tell? It seems the only monger who reports from Rio is Vagabundo1.

Mr Enternational
07-30-20, 14:50
Think it is a matter of perspective. When I see post after post from the same individual complaining about money, saying how he did this or that to avoid paying and have had personal contact which only reinforced my perception, I think I got it right.

As we navigate through COVID-19, I have tried to patronize businesses and individuals who are struggling, not taking advantage of their special deals and paying cash.

Maybe it just struck me that with all the personal tragedies and suffering, that once again, someone only thought about themselves and their wallet.While at the same time assuming that someone thinking about themselves and their wallet has experienced no personal tragedies or suffering and has not patronized businesses and indivuals that are struggling the same as you have. At the end of the day you do not know anyone's pain or the sacrifices and goodwill they have made. Definitely a matter of perspective when you can only see part of something, yet freely pass judgment on the entire thing.

Combo
07-31-20, 00:00
Brazil reopens international flights to tourists with valid health insurance. There are some restrictions.
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2020/07/brasil-deve-reabrir-fronteira-para-estrangeiro-com-seguro-saude-e-teste-negativo-de-covid.shtml

Interesting that they make this decision considering the current Covid-19 situation in Brazil. I'm happy I'm not in Brazil right now. Imagine if I would pass by 20 prives in one day and kiss over 100 girls on the cheeks, riding on crowded buses and metros (of course, Uber is an option). Social distance must be impossible for Rio-mongers.

I wonder if the prives have changed their hygienic routines? In Belprazer or Dudas, does 20 girls present themselves wearing face masks? What about blowjobs and face masks? Maybe somebody can tell? It seems the only monger who reports from Rio is Vagabundo1.I think it's impossible to monger and practice social distancing at the same time. I guess maybe if you watch them strip and play with themselves from six feet away. But I don't think that's what any of us are planning.

It seems that for most, all virtuous thoughts of observing social distancing are forgotten when pussy comes into play.


While at the same time assuming that someone thinking about themselves and their wallet has experienced no personal tragedies or suffering and has not patronized businesses and indivuals that are struggling the same as you have. At the end of the day you do not know anyone's pain or the sacrifices and goodwill they have made. Definitely a matter of perspective when you can only see part of something, yet freely pass judgment on the entire thing.I agree. As long as someone is not lying or stealing or getting violent, I'm not going to judge their "wallet" decisions. I have no idea what their situation may be. You seem like you're very upfront when dealing with girls and IMO that's a good thing.

BeenBob
07-31-20, 00:53
Brazil reopens international flights to tourists with valid health insurance. There are some restrictions.
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2020/07/brasil-deve-reabrir-fronteira-para-estrangeiro-com-seguro-saude-e-teste-negativo-de-covid.shtml

Interesting that they make this decision considering the current Covid-19 situation in Brazil. I'm happy I'm not in Brazil right now. Imagine if I would pass by 20 prives in one day and kiss over 100 girls on the cheeks, riding on crowded buses and metros (of course, Uber is an option). Social distance must be impossible for Rio-mongers.

I wonder if the prives have changed their hygienic routines? In Belprazer or Dudas, does 20 girls present themselves wearing face masks? What about blowjobs and face masks? Maybe somebody can tell? It seems the only monger who reports from Rio is Vagabundo1.In March I bought my ticket for Sep 1 optimistically thinking we would be through this within 6-8 weeks. I'm glad they are opening back up because I still plan on going and avoid large crowds like how I did in Vegas this summer.

Rio Bob
07-31-20, 03:36
In March I bought my ticket for Sep 1 optimistically thinking we would be through this within 6-8 weeks. I'm glad they are opening back up because I still plan on going and avoid large crowds like how I did in Vegas this summer.Let us know how you make out, you'll need to purchase health insurance valid in Brazil for the duration of your trip to treat COVID-19 if needed.

https://www.traveloffpath.com/brazil-reopening-borders-for-tourism/

Vagabundo1
07-31-20, 07:33
I have been to the prives.

At RB 156, I went to 3 of the prives listed on the site gparena dot net.

I would give the girls a 5 out of 10. Not very good. There were two girls at each prive. Very below average in quality. I have a few good quality girls that I selected from centro bars that I actually session with.

About 2 weeks ago, or maybe one week, I went to two prives at Uruguiana metro. Again, quality was just a 5 out of 10.

Two girls per prive.

At all the prives above, the girls do not wear masks, they come up to you and kiss as before at the apresentacao.

The hookers in Transamerica kiss. The bar downstairs and the plaza nearby at Av gastao senges 185 are de facto boates.

I will go and check Solarium. I did walk by MC the other day at 17 h, and it was closed.

I enjoy Brazil being empty and closed. So, I hope all you foreigners stay far away! Haha.


Brazil reopens international flights to tourists with valid health insurance. There are some restrictions.
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2020/07/brasil-deve-reabrir-fronteira-para-estrangeiro-com-seguro-saude-e-teste-negativo-de-covid.shtml

Interesting that they make this decision considering the current Covid-19 situation in Brazil. I'm happy I'm not in Brazil right now. Imagine if I would pass by 20 prives in one day and kiss over 100 girls on the cheeks, riding on crowded buses and metros (of course, Uber is an option). Social distance must be impossible for Rio-mongers.

I wonder if the prives have changed their hygienic routines? In Belprazer or Dudas, does 20 girls present themselves wearing face masks? What about blowjobs and face masks? Maybe somebody can tell? It seems the only monger who reports from Rio is Vagabundo1.

Sperto
07-31-20, 15:31
It is a changed world. I used to monger around in Brazil now I am a lawyer in UK and own few transport companies. But I am going back to USA. I'm USA citizen became transfer to UK for study purpose but now. I did LLb and now I'm 2 exams left LLM. I was best student of M A finance was trying to my Ph. The BUT decided to change venue. I got properties in4 counties I'm successful.I'm impressed, please tell us more.

Turgid
07-31-20, 15:31
Let us know how you make out, you'll need to purchase health insurance valid in Brazil for the duration of your trip to treat COVID-19 if needed.

https://www.traveloffpath.com/brazil-reopening-borders-for-tourism/I've always thought that the countries that are worst hit by covid 19 could be the first to open up their borders because things are unlikely to get worse for them from foreigners entering the country. Those countries that are least affected by covid 19 have a greater chance of things getting worse.

Turgid
07-31-20, 15:34
I want to plan my next trip to Brazil but I don't know when next because Brazil has became a no 2 hotspot of diseases right now. No. 2 in the world for covid-19. It is a changed world. I used to monger around in Brazil now I am a lawyer in UK and own few transport companies. But I am going back to USA. I'm USA citizen became transfer to UK for study purpose but now. I did LLb and now I'm 2 exams left LLM. I was best student of M A finance was trying to my Ph. The BUT decided to change venue. I got properties in4 counties I'm successful. But the point is what is the futre of TERMA. I'm very scared. I loved HELP gone now TERMA gone? What are we going to do?Going from the no. 1 country affected by covid 19 to the no. 2 does not seem all that bad.

Xpartan
08-01-20, 07:41
Going from the no. 1 country affected by covid 19 to the no. 2 does not seem all that bad.Another one would be asking yourself what if.

What if I do get sick and need medical attention. Which country would offer a better chance of survival?

It's not only about the comparative strengths of the 2 health care systems, but the mere fact that we've been at it longer and gotten better at treating the disease.

Bdonkadonk
08-01-20, 18:30
Another one would be asking yourself what if.

What if I do get sick and need medical attention. Which country would offer a better chance of survival?

It's not only about the comparative strengths of the 2 health care systems, but the mere fact that we've been at it longer and gotten better at treating the disease.That's a valid point. I for sure can say that I wouln't want to become seriously sick in Brazil right now, and especially when hospitals are overwhelmed with Covid patients. Also, if the purpose is to go to Brazil to monger, there is no way to do that and at the same time practice social distancing, so it would come with a certain risk. Staying home is a better situation where social distancing also is easier to maintain.

One Eyed Man
08-01-20, 18:40
I've been in Transamerica for a month. It is great.

First, thanks for this post, and thanks for this network.

Cost is 2200 r per month. Awesome 22nd floor view on the veranda of barra coastline.

Logistics are a bit more distanced. 343 bus from central / centro goes to Metro Jardim Botanica. Proprietary bus from Transamerica (395 Av Gastao Senges) goes straight to cinelandia / US Consulate hourly from 0610 to 2000. Uber of course, 50 r to most spots in zona sul.

The working girls are outstanding! This is literally a working girl-tel!!

The hottest working girls from Sao Paulo to Minas Gerais come here. To working girl.

The working girl doctor (plastic surgeon) here is my buddy. How's that for inside baseball.

I wifed up my favorite negra and she is giving me all her holes bare, we are tested, and I'm happy. But of course, I sneak off the the working girls on the other floors.

Some residents here wife up a working girl 24/7 and just lay in bed.

Will send some more ho pics soon.Vagabundo, do you mind saying how you found this apartment? Rates at the hotel are about US $66 a night, or about US $2,000 per month. Did you have a connection, or did you find it on AirBnB? I looked at some listings, which had maps, so finding the Transamerica would be a matter of sifting through the listings.

Combo
08-01-20, 18:49
Another one would be asking yourself what if.

What if I do get sick and need medical attention. Which country would offer a better chance of survival?

It's not only about the comparative strengths of the 2 health care systems, but the mere fact that we've been at it longer and gotten better at treating the disease.I would absolutely prefer to be in the US if I needed medical attention. Which is making me second guess my trip to Brasil this winter.

Vagabundo1
08-01-20, 22:37
Actually, 2200 reais is less than 450 USD a month at the current 5. 19 rate.

I found it through this board!


Vagabundo, do you mind saying how you found this apartment? Rates at the hotel are about US $66 a night, or about US $2,000 per month. Did you have a connection, or did you find it on AirBnB? I looked at some listings, which had maps, so finding the Transamerica would be a matter of sifting through the listings.

Xpartan
08-02-20, 08:37
Also, if the purpose is to go to Brazil to monger, there is no way to do that and at the same time practice social distancing, so it would come with a certain risk. Staying home is a better situation where social distancing also is easier to maintain.Yep, that too, unless you're expert at this.

Turgid
08-02-20, 16:33
That's a valid point. I for sure can say that I wouln't want to become seriously sick in Brazil right now, and especially when hospitals are overwhelmed with Covid patients. Also, if the purpose is to go to Brazil to monger, there is no way to do that and at the same time practice social distancing, so it would come with a certain risk. Staying home is a better situation where social distancing also is easier to maintain.You guys are absolutely of no help to me in my quest to convince myself to begin travelling again and start banging some luscious Brazilian beauties.

Safado69
08-02-20, 18:42
I am not on the ground. From good sources Solarium and T65 have been open since July; I received the attached flyers in emails or received in WhatsApp. T65 is also under new management, one of the managers from 4 x4 is some sort of owner / partner.

Cancun is now apparently called New York and will open Monday, August 3rd. It seems like masks are required in main room.

No news on 4 x4, Centaurus or Monte Carlo.

BabyTravlerr
08-03-20, 01:30
I was just about to post a question regarding Termas. Can anyone with boots on the ground add any more intel regarding if any other Termas are open. Sorry I'm a newbie to Rio, will be my first time. I was going to go to Sao Paulo, but it seems that all the restaurants are closing at 5 PM. I thought Rio would be a safer first time place for me. If all else fails I saw a YouTube Vid that showed the beach was open. I'm not sure how long that will last, but hey, this is a fluid time and we just have to make the best choices with what info we got. Thanks for your help if you decided to comment / Post because it really helps people do a little research before we arrive.

BabyTravlerr
08-03-20, 01:49
No news on 4 x4, Centaurus or Monte Carlo.Thank you!

I was just about to post a question regarding Termas. Can anyone with boots on the ground add any more intel regarding if any other Termas are open. Sorry I'm a newbie to Rio, will be my first time. I was going to go to Sao Paulo, but it seems that all the restaurants are closing at 5 PM. I thought Rio would be a safer first time place for me. If all else fails I saw a YouTube Vid that showed the beach was open. I'm not sure how long that will last, but hey, this is a fluid time and we just have to make the best choices with what info we got. Thanks for your help if you decided to comment / Post because it really helps people do a little research before we arrive.

Turgid
08-03-20, 15:11
I am not on the ground. From good sources Solarium and T65 have been open since July; I received the attached flyers in emails or received in WhatsApp. T65 is also under new management, one of the managers from 4 x4 is some sort of owner / partner.

Cancun is now apparently called New York and will open Monday, August 3rd. It seems like masks are required in main room.

No news on 4 x4, Centaurus or Monte Carlo.I will be depending a lot on trip reports to decide whether to travel to Brazil. So I hope mongers go to Brazil in their numbers and if you all come back healthy I will consider a trip of my own.

Mr Matrix
08-03-20, 15:48
I will be depending a lot on trip reports to decide whether to travel to Brazil. So I hope mongers go to Brazil in their numbers and if you all come back healthy I will consider a trip of my own.Now that is asking mongers to possibly make the ultimate TOFTT LOL but I'm going in January come what may (unless the airports are closed again of course).

Njoean197
08-07-20, 08:09
Are some nightclubs allowed open late, past 10:00 p. Pm. ? What is monger scene like? Beaches open? Red-light districts open and safe? Anyone with inside knowledge who could share would be greatly appreciated. Been looking online and I cannot find concrete info on what regulations are in place in Rio.

SameJdc
08-08-20, 02:44
I am not on the ground. From good sources Solarium and T65 have been open since July; I received the attached flyers in emails or received in WhatsApp. T65 is also under new management, one of the managers from 4 x4 is some sort of owner / partner.

Cancun is now apparently called New York and will open Monday, August 3rd. It seems like masks are required in main room.

No news on 4 x4, Centaurus or Monte Carlo.Monte Carlo reopened on August 4th. Centaurus has reopened from 3 pm-11 pm everyday except Sunday.

LivingFossil
08-12-20, 17:18
Are some nightclubs allowed open late, past 10:00 p. Pm. ? What is monger scene like? Beaches open? Red-light districts open and safe? Anyone with inside knowledge who could share would be greatly appreciated. Been looking online and I cannot find concrete info on what regulations are in place in Rio.Yes please someone, I have been reading conflicting reports online on what's open what's not. What happening in Lapa?

I was also wondering what area of Rio is best for mongering, as in close to the street girls or easy for escorts to get to, or is Rio mostly about the Termas?

I was in Rio a few years ago in Ipanema but did not monger but I remember thinking I should have got a place near Lapa as that's where all the night life was.

Vagabundo1
08-14-20, 11:57
I recommend Mosaico strongly. You can look back through my posts from the 2013- 2016 period. I went there last night again. I even connected with the manager, whose number I have and can pass along by PM.

Here's the thing about Mosaico.

It is where the local top tier Terma girls go after their shift in the zona sul termas is over.

I was there last night. I got there around mid night. 30 reais buys you three drinks, so I had 3 coco waters over 3 hours.

There actually is a strip pole, and the best part of the night was priscilla climbing up it. She has an amazing bunda, those long morena legs, and an athletic toned body.

Anyway, I am tired from the all nighter so I will keep it brief. Got a bunch of numbers, and I confirmed the view of Mosaico as the place the top tier zona sul girls go because at 2 AM (closing time at Solarium), there were some smoking hot girls who showed up. There were 3 or 4, got their numbers.

So earlier yesterday, I did a recon of some centro termas.

RB156.

2622: two girls, both fives.

2905 closed.

1204: two girls, both sevens.

I did nothing there as there were no mulattas and no 9's. Earlier in my fuck Covid trip this year, in March, I hooked up with a smoking mulatta, who I was banging for several months from 2622.20 YO. Catch and release was executed because she was a little too bureaucratic.

So, I hit Espaco 26, got a number. This is off Uruguiana in Centro. I hit two other little bars. I will update this with the address when I am a little more rested.

Yesterday, or day before now, I came back from a Buzios trip with a mini relationship. It was great. I did take an uber to and back, paid 400 r and 330 r to and fro. We had some difficulty finding a pousada that was open, but between the driver and some locals we did locate one. I had some trouble getting uber eats to deliver. But all in all, it was awesome. Great little pool at the pousada, which is almar pousada buzios. We went to the beach and had fun taking action shots with the gopro.

So there you have it gents.

Saturday my plan is to go check out Solarium, or maybe next week.

I do miss some mongering buddies. But, I carry on, solo.

All that said, Transamerica is awesome. You hang out downstairs or at the local mall just up the street (av gastao senges 327) (Transamerica is av gastao senges 395). The Brazilians have their way of creating basically a hooker hotel. I was down there at breakfast waiting for the luxury bus to cinelandia (part of Transamerica's amenities), and smoking hot girl with nice ass makes eye contact, gives me her number. She was with two older women. That's how the brazilians role. The girl I sessioned with here in Transamerica was staying with two other girls in the same room with the super big king bed in her room. They left when I came in and fucked her. There was a smoking hot loira / blond from SP, but she asked too much (600 an hour). Even though I was sorely tempted that was last Sunday and I had two full days with a mini relationship coming, so I saved my dinheiro, and went with the mini relationship.

Anyway, hit me up if you are coming to Rio.

The Cane
08-14-20, 22:00
I recommend Mosaico strongly. You can look back through my posts from the 2013- 2016 period. I went there last night again. I even connected with the manager, whose number I have and can pass along by PM. Here's the thing about Mosaico. It is where the local top tier Terma girls go after their shift in the zona sul termas is over. I was there last night. I got there around mid night. 30 reais buys you three drinks, so I had 3 coco waters over 3 hours. There actually is a strip pole, and the best part of the night was priscilla climbing up it. She has an amazing bunda, those long morena legs, and an athletic toned body.I've never been to Mosaico, but I've heard a lot about it. I thought it actually had closed at one point. Exactly where is Mosaico? I mean, what's the address? I tried Googling it once before but no luck. If I recall correctly, I understand that it's actually kind of tricky to get to. Even a little dangerous. Which makes me want to try it once even more LOL! Especially because I understand that some very hot and nasty girls ply their trade there.

Bravo
08-14-20, 22:03
I recommend Mosaico strongly. You can look back through my posts from the 2013- 2016 period. I went there last night again. I even connected with the manager, whose number I have and can pass along by PM.

Here's the thing about Mosaico.

It is where the local top tier Terma girls go after their shift in the zona sul termas is over.

I was there last night. I got there around mid night. 30 reais buys you three drinks, so I had 3 coco waters over 3 hours.

There actually is a strip pole, and the best part of the night was priscilla climbing up it. She has an amazing bunda, those long morena legs, and an athletic toned body.

Anyway, I am tired from the all nighter so I will keep it brief. Got a bunch of numbers, and I confirmed the view of Mosaico as the place the top tier zona sul girls go because at 2 AM (closing time at Solarium), there were some smoking hot girls who showed up. There were 3 or 4, got their numbers.
.This must be a new development because of the covid, I've been going to Mosaico for years and never saw a top tier terma girl in there. Its good to see that the terma girls are giving it one last try before calling it quits for the night.

Balboa
08-15-20, 02:09
I've never been to Mosaico, but I've heard a lot about it. I thought it actually had closed at one point. Exactly where is Mosaico? I mean, what's the address? I tried Googling it once before but no luck. If I recall correctly, I understand that it's actually kind of tricky to get to. Even a little dangerous. Which makes me want to try it once even more LOL! Especially because I understand that some very hot and nasty girls ply their trade there.It's only about a block up the street from VM.

Not really dangerous if you're not a walking target with bling, flashing cash, etc.

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08-15-20, 12:27
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Safado69
08-15-20, 13:01
I arrived this past Tuesday via delta Atlanta to São Paulo and a connection to SDU on latam. BTW they airline verifies your travel medical insurance at the gate before you can board and also Brazilian immigration checks.

First day I went to solarium and Monte Carlo still not many gringos in town and the girls are anxiously waiting for September to arrive for things to pick up. Because of exchange rates not usd $110 is not bad so already been to solarium twice this week.

Next day I went to Centro and T65 and New York (Cancun). T65 staff and girls essential ex 4 x4. Pricing is best deal in terms of Tier 1 termas. Approx. $60 usd for a program. Attached below. Opens at 2 pm but that is just the bar area and then the main boate with loud music opens at 5 pm. I believe you can wear robe and street clothes in both areas. Talent was great after 5 pm but again clients were not many. Great time to be in Rio! Get ready to be bombarded for tips as I mentioned there are 4 x4 staff that migrated over and they were known for this practice with gringos.

New York / Cancun pricing still a great deal and not much is changed.

Vagabundo1
08-15-20, 14:26
Sitting on the veranda with mini relationship, fucked her ass in the morning and last night. Yesterday, I fucked another chick came twice in her pussy in the morning and came twice in her pussy when we went to sleep at 5 AM ish, after the all night recon of Mosaico (which by the way is in VM, or right down the street).

Great report from Safado 69, I will be checking out those Tier 1 termas, hopefully with some ISG wingmen.

Monger On fellas.

All the late night bargains have been struck.

Between the satin beaus and their belles.

Prehistoric garbage trucks.

Have the city to themselves.

Echoes roars dinosaurs.

They're all doing the monster mash.

And most of the taxis, most of the working girls.

Are only taking calls for cash.

I don't know how it happened.

It all took place so quick.

But all I can do is hand it to you.

And your latest trick.

Well now my door was standing open.

Security were laid back and lax.

But it was only my heart that got broken.

You must have had a pass key made out of wax.

You played robbery with insolence.

And I played the blues in twelve bars down Lover's Lane.

And you never did have the intelligence to use.

The twelve keys hanging off from my chain.

I don't know how it happened.

It all took place so quick.

But all I can do is hand it to you.

And your latest trick.

Now it's past last call for alcohol.

Past recall has been here and gone.

The landlord he finally paid us all.

The satin jazzmen have put away their horns.

And we're standing outside of this wonderland.

Looking so bereaved and so bereft.

Like a bowery bum when he finally understands.

The bottle's empty and there's nothing left.

I don't know how it happened.

It was faster than the eye could flick.

But all I can do is hand it to you.

And your latest trick.

The Cane
08-15-20, 17:29
If my intel is correct, you can catch Elisa at Black and White. The address I have is Avenida Paris, 634 Bonsucceso. Wish I could safely get down there to do her warm A-hole again!

One Eyed Man
08-15-20, 17:59
Actually, 2200 reais is less than 450 USD a month at the current 5. 19 rate.

I found it through this board!What I want to know is, did you rent the apt. Through AirBnB, or from someone on the board, or is there just a rental office at the property?

Vagabundo1
08-15-20, 22:19
I can PM you the number of the landlord I rented from.

I basically drove up there in an Uber one night in June when my landlord in Copacobana was trying to put me in a one bedroom for the same 2500 r he was charging me for a 2 bedroom in the afternoon; the guys name is Ney, which I thought was Nate and he showed me 3 units; I made a decision, and uber-ed my trash over there that night, handed Nate 2200 r and I've been there for 1.5 months.

I am thinking of trading up to a 4400 r month unit in Riviera del Fiori with a real kitchen, two bedrooms, and three bathrooms, but I have until 29 Aug. Riviera del Fiori is awesome, BTW. The residents there tell me it is the best spot in Barra -- further towards Rio centro or Recreio, more crime, but on this part of the beach there is enough security that you can leave your stuff on the beach and swim. The people are all blue eyed, white or brown skinned. This is Bolsonaro country. I bring in my mulattas, and try to integrate the community. It is like Leblon near Boteca Belmonte, which I wrote about in 2017.

But it is awesome. I really, really, really like Transamerica. It is where the top end hookers from all over Brazil stay. For example, Yasmin Mineira, who I banged when she was 18.

BTW, on the topic of Eliza Sanches, thanks, I am planning on doing a in person recce of Bonsuccesso. I too have stretched her sphincter with my 30 x 19 cm pau (I fucked her twice, haha), for over two hours. I'm sure she barely felt it.


What I want to know is, did you rent the apt. Through AirBnB, or from someone on the board, or is there just a rental office at the property?

Vagabundo1
08-15-20, 22:25
Since all you mongers are visual learners here is talent at transamerica. The girl living with two older chicks.

Vagabundo1
08-15-20, 22:36
Carttman and I used to go to club red light (now defunct) which had the best talent both tier 1 terma girls and freelancers. That was near motel Malaga which is also near mosaico / vm. Mosaico would def have 4 x4 girls show up "after midnight".

Key is its 140 r at mosaico or 300+ in centro termas like 4 x 4 or 500+ in solarium or mc or Ipanema.

But the real key is mosaico is where real cariocas go to fuck real carioca men too; and even hookers like to party and have sex. They see tier 1 termas as work.

Very few gringos go to mosaico.


This must be a new development because of the covid, I've been going to Mosaico for years and never saw a top tier terma girl in there. Its good to see that the terma girls are giving it one last try before calling it quits for the night.

Mr Matrix
08-15-20, 23:07
I've never been to Mosaico, but I've heard a lot about it. I thought it actually had closed at one point. Exactly where is Mosaico? I mean, what's the address? I tried Googling it once before but no luck. If I recall correctly, I understand that it's actually kind of tricky to get to. Even a little dangerous. Which makes me want to try it once even more LOL! Especially because I understand that some very hot and nasty girls ply their trade there.Haven't been myself yet but from my research for my upcoming trip this winter address fors Mosaico, is Rua Hilário Ribeiro 243.

Vagabundo1
08-16-20, 01:06
Thats it.

In 2013, I did my research on this board.

Special thanks then to Sperto.

I made my "patrol base" Motel Malaga. Pernoite got the six 's" (shit shower shave supper sex sleep), from 18 h to 12 h next day. You could also get girls at 100 r for 2 hours from those great agencies scortshow and the sister agency near motel barao flamego.

From Malaga, I would walk over to VM and Mosaico, and especially to RLC (Red Light Club), which was a block away from Malaga.

The key to this general area is:

A) close to central (the hub of local transit, including bus, super via, and metro), which means girls can walk from Central or from Rodoviaria.

B) the dividing line between Zona Norte and Zona Sul. This is written about in Torres, "Fim" a novel recommended on this board, about the friendship between 5 mongers, 1969 to present, told in reverse chronological order. This has insights about white / brown / black skin and its implications which are as true today as 50 years ago. The implications for us mongers is that this is where getting 70 r for a half hour pussy is a bargain for us from the rich world, and a significant amount for the Zona Norte / Oest residents who are the majority of customers and workers.

C) It is a blending zone that also includes Maracana the biggest soccer stadium in rio, maybe Brazil. And the Federal University near Maracana, which is IMHO the source of the absolute best Brazilian negra buceta and see you and bundinha.


Haven't been myself yet but from my research for my upcoming trip this winter address fors Mosaico, is Rua Hilrio Ribeiro 243.

Sperto
08-16-20, 08:41
I arrived this past Tuesday...
Looking forward on your reports, not only about privées but also on how the situation is in general. Restaurants, bars, beaches, transports etc.

Safado69
08-16-20, 13:16
There is a new spot across from Mabs on Prado Júnior that is a game changer! It is run by the manger of Mabs, Marlon I believe is his name. Right now he does not have all the clearances from city hall to be open and has hosted what he calls "clandestine parties" after Mabs closes.

I kid you not the two nights he opened Thursday and Saturday there have been girls from all of the major termas there as well as dolce vita which opened yesterday. The environment is chill a basement bar with a couple of pool tables and a great vibe.

If you are concerned about social distancing definitely not the spot for you. And also smoking in doors. I was informed about this place by the Brazilian / American manager at Casablanca. Based on intel and my discussions with the termas girls that I know and this guy you can get Centaurus, solarium, monte carlo and T65 girls there starting at 200. He also said these girls are at Mosaico for lower consist with Vagabunda and you can have them on the premises.

Mabs by the way is hurting the social distancing set up is surreal and there are hardly any girls. The dynamic is changing here for sure but I stick to my initial comment that it's a great time to be here.

On another note went to Centaurus Saturday night. They had 15 girls and oh how the mighty have fallen off. The fame of the establishment is in the toilet with the level of talent that was on display. The entrada was like 140 but went towards 2 free drinks consumption. Another noticeable item was the girls did not ambush you at the entrance and accompany you to the rest room. There were literally only 3 guys including me and a buddy. Manager apologized and told us it would be better next week. We were also shown a hand written price listing table that had the costs for 40 minutes and I don't remember being to able to session at Centaurus for 600 reais. May be there pricing model has changed bc of COVID-19 impact and the lack of quality in girls.

Ptgbac
08-16-20, 14:41
Isn't it cheaper to find a girl in the escort websites, than those termas?

Vagabundo1
08-16-20, 18:18
Yeah, the fun of going to a terma is hanging out with male friends, actually.

I rarely session at a terma, but I get as many numbers as I can.

The locals at a terma like 4 x 4 will do the same thing.

Great reports by Safado69. Looking forward to checking out his recommendations maybe in some joint patrols. Great info on Black and white in Bonsuccesso too from the cane. I went there in November and in 2015 with another good wingman AZN Safado. Half the fun is getting to a spot that the average gringo does not. We figured out city buses in and out. The best negra talent is there. The girl I banged at BW in November definitely said she had a namorado. My interview is do you have a kid, do you have a boyfriend. If either is yes, I usually move on. I am in a mini relationship now with a hot negra who first told me that she did not have a kid, but it turns out she does, which I knew since I had interviewed her before at a different spot which she did not remember. As Shakespeare wrote," I do believe her though I know she lies."


Isn't it cheaper to find a girl in the escort websites, than those termas?

Jimmy Boy 99
08-16-20, 19:14
I arrived this past Tuesday via delta Atlanta to So Paulo and a connection to SDU on latam. BTW they airline verifies your travel medical insurance at the gate before you can board and also Brazilian immigration checks. Snip.Thinking of coming down to Brazil now that it is open but will need insurance. Where did you get your insurance? How much did it cost for how much coverage and length of coverage? Thanks.

BeenBob
08-16-20, 20:30
Thinking of coming down to Brazil now that it is open but will need insurance. Where did you get your insurance? How much did it cost for how much coverage and length of coverage? Thanks.This is where I got mine.

https://www.geobluetravelinsurance.com/

Safado69
08-16-20, 20:31
Thinking of coming down to Brazil now that it is open but will need insurance. Where did you get your insurance? How much did it cost for how much coverage and length of coverage? Thanks.You want to get the plan with COVID-19 coverage. Need to read fine print for exclusions when you purchase other insurance plans from carriers such as Allianz.

https://www.sevencorners.com/#start.

https://www.sevencorners.com/coronavirus-travel-insurance/liaison-travel-plus-medical-insurance#/ quote.

I paid $60 for 10 days.

Jimmy Boy 99
08-16-20, 23:29
Thanks for the info.

Exec Talent
08-17-20, 00:18
You want to get the plan with COVID-19 coverage. Need to read fine print for exclusions when you purchase other insurance plans from carriers such as Allianz.

https://www.sevencorners.com/#start.

https://www.sevencorners.com/coronavirus-travel-insurance/liaison-travel-plus-medical-insurance#/ quote.

I paid $60 for 10 days.Thank you for a very useful post.

Hobbying
08-17-20, 18:47
On United, Allianz insurance can be purchased with the ticket during check in on the web or app. Price depends on the cost of the ticket but is roughly 10%.

The Cane
08-17-20, 20:25
On United, Allianz insurance can be purchased with the ticket during check in on the web or app. Price depends on the cost of the ticket but is roughly 10%.And that includes COVID-19 coverage as well?

Questner
08-18-20, 01:39
Allianz won't cover it now through any channel. 10% is a rule of the thumb price for all-in package including cancellation and interruption.

Safado69
08-18-20, 01:41
On United, Allianz insurance can be purchased with the ticket during check in on the web or app. Price depends on the cost of the ticket but is roughly 10%.I had an Allianz travel policy through Delta and it did not cover COVID-19, hence I looked into this option. There could be a rider or endorsement to the Allianz policy. There is a difference between travel insurance which cover trip interruption and cancelation and some medical and the travel medical insurance. Devil is in the detail so do your research and read reviews I am just sharing my experience and not suggesting one over another.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/21/travel-insurer-launches-overseas-covid-19-domestic-road-trip-coverage.html

Not sure how good they are paying claims though. Not as big and reputable insurance player as Allianz, Zurich, AIG or AXA. Hope to not have this issue. Good luck.

Hobbying
08-18-20, 07:47
And that includes COVID-19 coverage as well?When I bought it said it covers it if you get covid while on your trip, meaning you cannot already have it but how they can they prove that.

Girl I know recently had pcr and antibody done, took 4 days or pcr and 3 for antibody. She got covid and had all the symptoms. Being in her 20's and works out everyday but still had trouble breathing. She is recovering still after 2 weeks.

Vagabundo1
08-18-20, 08:07
Since I slid into Brazil in mid March, I have not been hassled about insurance.

I do have it through Uncle Sam.

I may have had Covid several times, but its a cough and it passes. Memento mori.

I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees; or to paraphrase, I'd rather get laid 200 more times in Brazil than sit in involuntary incarceration in the states.


I had an Allianz travel policy through Delta and it did not cover COVID-19, hence I looked into this option. There could be a rider or endorsement to the Allianz policy. There is a difference between travel insurance which cover trip interruption and cancelation and some medical and the travel medical insurance. Devil is in the detail so do your research and read reviews I am just sharing my experience and not suggesting one over another.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/21/travel-insurer-launches-overseas-covid-19-domestic-road-trip-coverage.html

Not sure how good they are paying claims though. Not as big and reputable insurance player as Allianz, Zurich, AIG or AXA. Hope to not have this issue. Good luck.

WyattEarp
08-18-20, 14:29
I do have it through Uncle Sam.Are you sure about that? I think it is more typical that USA Insurance private or government only covers your health services in the USA.

Ptgbac
08-18-20, 15:11
Since I slid into Brazil in mid March, I have not been hassled about insurance.

I do have it through Uncle Sam.

I may have had Covid several times, but its a cough and it passes. Memento mori.

I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees; or to paraphrase, I'd rather get laid 200 more times in Brazil than sit in involuntary incarceration in the states.You see, the problem is the public healthcare in Rio. Not only covid, anything minor can happen. Well, moving on to more important stuff.

Transamerica barra is a hotel or flats?

I am a European Portuguese, do you think it's easier to hook with girls? And not get charged with the gringo tax.

TitusPullo88
08-21-20, 00:36
I'm planning my first mongering when borders start opening up and plan to report back and upload pictures etc.

For a first trip, does Colombia vs Brazil have any major advantages over the other? Through some research, prices look about the same. One thing I really like about Brazil are the "termas", I don't think Colombia has an equivalent where you can go to a sauna and relax like a FKK club in Germany and monger at the same time. Thanks for any info.

Vagabundo1
08-21-20, 15:34
Its a apt hotel.


You see, the problem is the public healthcare in Rio. Not only covid, anything minor can happen. Well, moving on to more important stuff.

Transamerica barra is a hotel or flats?

I am a European Portuguese, do you think it's easier to hook with girls? And not get charged with the gringo tax.

Vagabundo1
08-21-20, 15:35
I don't really care.

I am getting laid in Brazil.

Not reading some message board sniping about minor BS.

Hahah.


Are you sure about that? I think it is more typical that USA Insurance private or government only covers your health services in the USA.

WyattEarp
08-21-20, 19:33
I'm planning my first mongering when borders start opening up and plan to report back and upload pictures etc.

For a first trip, does Colombia vs Brazil have any major advantages over the other? Through some research, prices look about the same. One thing I really like about Brazil are the "termas", I don't think Colombia has an equivalent where you can go to a sauna and relax like a FKK club in Germany and monger at the same time. Thanks for any info.Do you have experience with Rio's termas? They're a lot of fun. I like hanging out before and after the deed. They, however, are very different from FKKs. The facilities and food in termas are very basic. I wouldn't recommend booking a masseur / masseuse in a termas.

Pipe Layer99
08-21-20, 23:23
Since I slid into Brazil in mid March ... VB, check your pm.

Mexidan
08-22-20, 04:56
After a long absence from Rio where I traveled to twenty other countries, I am starting to look at going to Rio again. However, going back to Rio makes me a little nervous. Before, I rented a room from the guys at America Tours (now closed), spent a lot of the daytime at 4 x4 and Luomo (both closed) hung out on the beach at Posto 6 (Hooker section), at at Meia Pataca (closed) and pregamed at the patio restaurant outside of help (closed), and spent late nights at Help (closed).

I just don't know what to get excited about in going back. I felt like a Rio pro and now everything has changed so much and none of the places I went to even exist anymore. Back then, I also knew personally most of the “must have” girls and obviously they left the game long ago. I miss so much of the good old times, and much of what I learned about mongering was because of my trips to Rio. I even remember my first trip to medellin, and feeling like it was a mistake and a waste of time because I loved Rio so much! I read trip sports and just don’t see the excitement that we as a group had from back in the day.

I'm really thinking long and hard about all of this. Decisions, decisions.

Dan.

Elvis 2008
08-22-20, 06:22
I don't really care.

I am getting laid in Brazil.

Not reading some message board sniping about minor BS.

Hahah.It is not minor BS. They could turn you away without insurance. Here is a website I checked out: https://www.americanvisitorinsurance.com/us-citizen/travel-to-brazil/.

You can get two weeks of insurance and I was quoted $23 when I put in my information.

PussyRiot
08-22-20, 14:18
The dynamic is changing here for sure but I stick to my initial comment that it's a great time to be here.
Safado69, please post more reports as deciding to make the trip back to Rio.

PussyRiot
08-22-20, 14:19
I'm planning my first mongering when borders start opening up and plan to report back and upload pictures etc.
There is no debate as Colombia is closed at this time and Brazil is open for travelers.

The Cane
08-22-20, 14:31
After a long absence from Rio where I traveled to twenty other countries, I am starting to look at going to Rio again. However, going back to Rio makes me a little nervous. Before, I rented a room from the guys at America Tours (now closed), spent a lot of the daytime at 4 x4 and Luomo (both closed) hung out on the beach at Posto 6 (Hooker section), at at Meia Pataca (closed) and pregamed at the patio restaurant outside of help (closed), and spent late nights at Help (closed).

I just don't know what to get excited about in going back. I felt like a Rio pro and now everything has changed so much and none of the places I went to even exist anymore. Back then, I also knew personally most of the must have girls and obviously they left the game long ago. I miss so much of the good old times, and much of what I learned about mongering was because of my trips to Rio. I even remember my first trip to medellin, and feeling like it was a mistake and a waste of time because I loved Rio so much! I read trip sports and just dont see the excitement that we as a group had from back in the day.

I'm really thinking long and hard about all of this. Decisions, decisions.

Dan.You can't go back to Rio hoping and expecting to re-live the past. It's gone. Either look to play the game differently there, or consider trying a new destination in Brazil. I still have gone to Rio, but I started going to Sao Paulo too. Even took a trip down to Porto Alegre. So glad I did! When things open up and are safe again, I plan to see other parts of Brazil as well. So, consider expanding your horizons to discover other parts of Brazil besides Rio de Janeiro.

Turgid
08-22-20, 15:42
There is no debate as Colombia is closed at this time and Brazil is open for travelers.Apparently except for Thailand the countries that depend on tourism are open for travelers.

Exec Talent
08-22-20, 21:05
It is not minor BS. They could turn you away without insurance. Here is a website I checked out: https://www.americanvisitorinsurance.com/us-citizen/travel-to-brazil/.

You can get two weeks of insurance and I was quoted $23 when I put in my information.The stated purpose of this forum is to exchange information for the purpose of having sex with women.

If you can't get there or be safe while there, little else matters.

I know how tab A into slot be works and don't need blow by blow descriptions. What is helpful is I am on the ground and this is what I see or experienced. In the case of travel health insurance, this is what I purchased or my research suggested.

The point about Rio not being as it was is not just a post about lamenting the closing of Help, but a legitimate question worthy of discussion, especially at this time. I like Sperto and greatly appreciate his contributions because he has helped me make educated decisions about other options in Brazil.

A big thank you goes out to those who are taking the time to share their firsthand on the ground experiences as others are trying to decide whether the risk is worth the ever changing reward.

Questner
08-23-20, 00:50
It is not minor BS. They could turn you away without insurance. Here is a website I checked out: https://www.americanvisitorinsurance.com/us-citizen/travel-to-brazil/.

You can get two weeks of insurance and I was quoted $23 when I put in my information.You will be lucky to get that malady really covered at $23 per day at present, but you won't. We are all sensible men.

Balboa
08-23-20, 01:26
You will be lucky to get that malady really covered at $23 per day at present, but you won't. We are all sensible men.My Health Insurance in the USA states worldwide coverage.

I had the company send me a separate email / letter stating this, as well as stating the effective date of the insurance.

That, with my Insurance card will get me in.

I've already had 2 friends enter in that manner with no problem at all.

Vagabundo1
08-23-20, 17:57
Monday 17 h solarium is plan. Vagbundo1 and Safado69 are in.

Vagabundo1
08-23-20, 18:35
Well I am also self insuring.

1 with funds on a card.

2 veterans affairs insurance.

3 I have contacts with my country that would get me out.

4 exercise and diet for my immune system including 4 orgasms a day which is good cardio.

Pax.

Memento mori.


It is not minor BS. They could turn you away without insurance. Here is a website I checked out: https://www.americanvisitorinsurance.com/us-citizen/travel-to-brazil/.

You can get two weeks of insurance and I was quoted $23 when I put in my information.

FlcnHvy
08-23-20, 20:00
Entered into Rio via 3 flight connections from Europe (low Covid Cases). Was fairly straight forward, each connection and customs made sure I had travel insurance covering Cov-ID. (I used visitorscoverage cost was 90 $ for 90 days). Staying in Copa, the vibe is good. Not so busy and a lot of Space, chill Vibe.

First time to Termas, what can a night with 2-3 girls cost at solarium, centaurus, and 4 x 4.

- banged a chica from photoacomphantes, wasn't my type but the BJ was perfect. God do they know how to Sex here.

Vagabundo1
08-23-20, 22:21
I had lunch today with Safado69 in Copa at a seafood spot. This was great because having mongering friends / wingmen is important to keeping level headed. We agreed to try to do a terma run to Solarium tomorrow, Monday, at 5 PM. PM me to link up if you are in Rio. I also planned to do a centro terma run with another ISG monger Fuckmeafdig, but I flaked, to be honest. His reports and good sense are invaluable. In short, the lower end 3 d tier termas are where he sees the best talent. He does badoo, which I need to do more. Safado69 and I agree that doing established prives is good for making sure the girl is vetted and accountable.

Walking back from Mabs, we did pass Lux, and apparently that little underground spot opens at 24 h / Midnight, and then goes all night. It's on the radar, again, thanks to the good communication and reporting of Safado69.

So, after Safado69 and I finished a drink at Mabs (with absolutely zero talent) on this Sunday afternoon, I grabbed the 457 bus from copa to VM. I found a old favorite preta / negra, who is all of 23. It was standard pricing at 75 reais. We did bang, and it was good. I am looking to score with her in my apto, but her cellular was stolen, so I have to try to work through FB. But she has the body of a Noemie Bilas, and for what, 15 USD? I could pull pictures of her from 2015, but won't right now.

All is well. Monger on fellas.

Leaves are falling all around.

It's time I was on my way.

Thanks to you I'm much obliged.

For such a pleasant stay.

But now it's time for me to go.

The autumn moon lights my way.

For now I smell the rain.

And with it pain.

And it's headed my way.

Ah, sometimes I grow so tired.

But I know I've got one thing I got to do.

Ramble on.

And now's the time, the time is now.

To sing my song.

I'm goin' 'round the world, I got to find my girl.

On my way.

I've been this way ten years to the day.

Ramble on.

Got to find the queen of all my dreams.

Got no time for spreadin' roots.

The time has come to be gone.

And thoough our health we drank a thousand times.

It's time to ramble on.

Ramble on.

And now's the time, the time is now.

To sing my song.

I'm going 'round the world, I got to find my girl.

On my way.

DaKid91
08-23-20, 23:34
Flew in from Miami via Sao Paulo then LATAM to SDU. Coming into customs this morning the lady kinda gave me a hard time for not printing my travel insurance, as I screenshot on my phone, FYI. Nice hotel deal 2 days for $37 total in Copa.

Its Sunday so its slow but I did manage to session with a big booty girl off photoach. For $200/ HR in Copa. Overall good session but she can't suck dick at all LOL bummer, walked down the street and what do you know, Mabs. Dead but ill take a look later tonight. Also thinking about going to VM, but unsure how it will be given covid and it being a Sunday, would hate to waste a trip.

Rio Bob
08-24-20, 15:37
spent a lot of the daytime at 4 x4 and Luomo (both closed) pregamed at the patio restaurant outside of help (closed), and spent late nights at Help (closed


Dan.Every type of venue you mentioned there is still an alternative in Rio. No more 4 x4 etc. Well there are still numerous Termas in Rio including Monte Carlo and Solarium. Terracao Atlantico? Outside Help, well you can hang out in Mabs if your looking for some pre game activity. And the big one no more Help, for sure this is a big sore spot but you can always go to Dolce Vita, same concept as Help but a much smaller venue but offers everything Help did but without the volume. Oh and if you're really missing some of your old Help girlfriends then arrive Mabs a little earlier for the early bird specials as many of them are old Help GDP's, I've seen a few of them in past couple of years. Meia Pataca is still open last time I was there but a family restaurant now LOL.

Showdown
08-24-20, 18:57
For years I have watched this porn star named Tekohas. The gangbangs this women does and her attention to pleasing everyone is legendary. If you don't know who she is look her up. She is Brazilian and I have always wanted to go to Brazil to find a dark skinned Brazilian like her. With COVID limiting options for mongering travel from the USA (I am tired of the DR) Brazil seems like the only place to go.

Rio seems intimidating to me -crime, COVID, language-but I want to conquer it. I've RTFF but I have some questions because I am still a bit confused.

1. How are Americans getting a Brazil visa during these COVID times? I assume they would be overwhelmed with new request and that their could be a severe delay in getting one.

2. I need a central place to stay near the beach. Given all the hotel closures can anyone make any suggestions?

3. Given I will only be there one week in mid September I want point and click and to lay as many women as possible. Are the termas the best bet?

4. Anyone know a local who can show me around? Of course I would pay.

Bottom line-I want to enjoy the beach and screw Brazilian women. Nothing more nothing less. No sightseeing. Just naked women. Any suggestions would be appreciated as I would like to book this ticket in the next two days.

Showdown.

BMo814
08-24-20, 20:15
Hitting Brazil in November São Paulo first then Rio, been reading the forum but wanted to ask advice. It will be my first time in Brazil, from a trusted source a Brazil vet I met on the way back from Medellíand he says first timer should stay in Copa or Impanema. I'm fairly experienced travel, Dr, Mexico, Colombia once. Brushing on on some Portuguese I speak semi fluent Spanish so I can read a lot of Portuguese and speak some. My question is, is staying in Barra not good for a first timer I see some nice looking for obviously much less than Copa and Impanema and it seems Barra is better located for some of the lesser known Termas and prives. Or am I all wrong.

BMo814
08-24-20, 21:22
For years I have watched this porn star named Tekohas. The gangbangs this women does and her attention to pleasing everyone is legendary. If you don't know who she is look her up. She is Brazilian and I have always wanted to go to Brazil to find a dark skinned Brazilian like her. With COVID limiting options for mongering travel from the USA (I am tired of the DR) Brazil seems like the only place to go.

Rio seems intimidating to me -crime, COVID, language-but I want to conquer it. I've RTFF but I have some questions because I am still a bit confused.

1. How are Americans getting a Brazil visa during these COVID times? I assume they would be overwhelmed with new request and that their could be a severe delay in getting one.

2. I need a central place to stay near the beach. Given all the hotel closures can anyone make any suggestions?

3. Given I will only be there one week in mid September I want point and click and to lay as many women as possible. Are the termas the best bet?

4. Anyone know a local who can show me around? Of course I would pay.

Bottom line-I want to enjoy the beach and screw Brazilian women. Nothing more nothing less. No sightseeing. Just naked women. Any suggestions would be appreciated as I would like to book this ticket in the next two days.

Showdown.I'm in the same boat as you newbie to Brazil so I'm not speaking from experience but also seems we in the same planning phase, I've seen tons of room available on booking.com and Airbnb. Lots of rooms with sea views in Copacabana and Impanema and tons in Barra with sea views. Reading the forum seems most are garota friendly or at least look the other way but doing my investigation as well. Good luck look forward to reading some reports.

Balboa
08-24-20, 21:54
For years I have watched this porn star named Tekohas. The gangbangs this women does and her attention to pleasing everyone is legendary. If you don't know who she is look her up. She is Brazilian and I have always wanted to go to Brazil to find a dark skinned Brazilian like her. With COVID limiting options for mongering travel from the USA (I am tired of the DR) Brazil seems like the only place to go.

Rio seems intimidating to me -crime, COVID, language-but I want to conquer it. I've RTFF but I have some questions because I am still a bit confused.

1. How are Americans getting a Brazil visa during these COVID times? I assume they would be overwhelmed with new request and that their could be a severe delay in getting one.

2. I need a central place to stay near the beach. Given all the hotel closures can anyone make any suggestions?

3. Given I will only be there one week in mid September I want point and click and to lay as many women as possible. Are the termas the best bet?

4. Anyone know a local who can show me around? Of course I would pay.

Bottom line-I want to enjoy the beach and screw Brazilian women. Nothing more nothing less. No sightseeing. Just naked women. Any suggestions would be appreciated as I would like to book this ticket in the next two days.

Showdown.There is no longer a Visa requirement.

Only proof of Medical insurance, valid in Brazil for your length of stay.

MongerHunger
08-24-20, 23:51
There is no longer a Visa requirement.

Only proof of Medical insurance, valid in Brazil for your length of stay.Do some more research and use the search bar too. I am getting a wealth of information here just by reading and I am formulating my own game plan. Nothing to it.

CkNice11
08-25-20, 00:28
What's up fellas. Looking to book me a flight to Rio in probably early or mid October. I appreciate all the post you guys have made I've been researching non stop LOL. I still have a couple of questions though. I'll be there about a week 12 days max. I was thinking of doing half my time in Sao Paulo and half time in Rio. Is that normally a good idea and if I do split the time what's the best way to get from Rio to Sao Paulo. Also I'm a man who loves big asses. The bigger the better. I heard 4 x 4 use to be home of the mega asses but they have been shutdown due to covid. Any other recommendations for huge assed chicks. Also is anybody else going during that time.

PussyRiot
08-25-20, 02:08
first timer should stay in Copa or Impanema. My question is, is staying in Barra not good for a first timer I see some nice looking for obviously much less than Copa and Impanema and it seems Barra is better located for some of the lesser known Termas and prives. Or am I all wrong.Other members can chime in but you should stay at either in Copa or Ipanema for full Rio experience.

There are few massage parlors in Copa area and only short train ride to centro termas / massage parlors as well.

There used be blogger site under the*monger who wrote detail reports on mongering in Brazil cities but site is no longer working anymore.

You can check my trip report earlier this year and hope it helps.

Combo
08-25-20, 02:19
What's up fellas. Looking to book me a flight to Rio in probably early or mid October. I appreciate all the post you guys have made I've been researching non stop LOL. I still have a couple of questions though. I'll be there about a week 12 days max. I was thinking of doing half my time in Sao Paulo and half time in Rio. Is that normally a good idea and if I do split the time what's the best way to get from Rio to Sao Paulo. Also I'm a man who loves big asses. The bigger the better. I heard 4 x 4 use to be home of the mega asses but they have been shutdown due to covid. Any other recommendations for huge assed chicks. Also is anybody else going during that time.Buy an open jaw ticket flying into Sao Paulo and out of Rio (or vice versa). Then search for a one-way ticket between the two using Expedia, Kayak, etc. It's like a 40 min flight and should be $50 or less.

Also, if possible, between the two cities use the local airports (CGH in Sao Paulo and SDU in Rio). Will save you time sitting in a taxi (and $). The international airports, GIG and GRU, are a long ways from where you'll likely be staying. For me it always sucks to arrive somewhere and then have a 50-minute taxi ride to get to your hotel / apartment.

For 10 days, I'd probably do four in Sao Paulo and six in Rio, depending on how much you like the beach (Rio) versus a big, New York type city (Sao Paulo).

Vagabundo1
08-25-20, 03:06
For the visual learners.

BeenBob
08-25-20, 08:01
What's up fellas. Looking to book me a flight to Rio in probably early or mid October. I appreciate all the post you guys have made I've been researching non stop LOL. I still have a couple of questions though. I'll be there about a week 12 days max. I was thinking of doing half my time in Sao Paulo and half time in Rio. Is that normally a good idea and if I do split the time what's the best way to get from Rio to Sao Paulo. Also I'm a man who loves big asses. The bigger the better. I heard 4 x 4 use to be home of the mega asses but they have been shutdown due to covid. Any other recommendations for huge assed chicks. Also is anybody else going during that time.I may end up running into you in October. My advice is to do your research on São Paulo. Its super spread out but you can make way via metrô if you know where you're going. My first time there I hired a guide but the talent wasn't worth having to put up with all that traffic, so different strokes for different folks. Huge asses are big everywhere my friend. Although 4 x4 is closed, the land of nice round browns are still plentiful. And if you do plan to hit São Paulo, I think I still may have porn star Soraya's contact info. I imagine she she'd fit your description of taste.

WyattEarp
08-25-20, 13:54
Hitting Brazil in November So Paulo first then Rio, been reading the forum but wanted to ask advice. It will be my first time in Brazil, from a trusted source a Brazil vet I met on the way back from Medelland he says first timer should stay in Copa or Impanema. I'm fairly experienced travel, Dr, Mexico, Colombia once. Brushing on on some Portuguese I speak semi fluent Spanish so I can read a lot of Portuguese and speak some. My question is, is staying in Barra not good for a first timer I see some nice looking for obviously much less than Copa and Impanema and it seems Barra is better located for some of the lesser known Termas and prives. Or am I all wrong.I agree with OldBelly a first-timer is much better off in Copa or Ipanema. Barra is more spread out and farther from the rest of the city. If you really want to check out a termas or prive one day in Barra, grab an Uber or public trans. The beaches in Copa and Ipanema are also more densely occupied. This means more eye candy per square meter.

The good news is Copa and Ipanema are right next to each other. Think of a wider V with Copa to the right and Ipanema to the left. The point is the small Arpoador area. I like to stay close to the point. That way it's a quick walk to either beach. Both have plenty of restaurants and bars. Ipanema is a nicer, greener and possibly safer neighborhood. Copa has more retail stuff.

I like walking around both areas. I personally don't walk around later at night. It's Uber or taxi point-to-point for me.

Safado69
08-25-20, 14:48
Quick update I was there last night hoping to catch some new talent and it was not meant to be. 5 girls in total and I had probably been with 50% of them at some point in the last 2 years.

Spoke with one of the girls and learned that dynamic has really changed in the Termas. As recently as March since I have been going to termas the girls had to pay the house $200-250 reais per week just to work there. Now it is reverse. Centaurus has to offer the girls 200 per week to get girls there. Monte Carlo counters by paying the girls 50 per day and they work 5 days (250).

The manager Ivan told me the owner / manager at Centaurus called him and asked how it was going and how was business that evening and if they lowered prices. No foreigners in both of these establishments spells disaster. He was shocked to hear how bad the talent was at Centaurus and also see the price list.

With the exception of Solarium which doesn't depend on tourists; I am not sure if the others can make it until November (start of peak season). Girls don't need that 200 reais it doesn't cover all their overhead in transportation, hair, makeup etc.

My entrance was waived at MC and I left with the lowest bill ever are $23.

The Cane
08-25-20, 15:01
I had lunch today with Safado69 in Copa at a seafood spot. This was great because having mongering friends / wingmen is important to keeping level headed. We agreed to try to do a terma run to Solarium tomorrow, Monday, at 5 PM. PM me to link up if you are in Rio. I also planned to do a centro terma run with another ISG monger Fuckmeafdig, but I flaked, to be honest. His reports and good sense are invaluable. In short, the lower end 3 d tier termas are where he sees the best talent. He does badoo, which I need to do more. Safado69 and I agree that doing established prives is good for making sure the girl is vetted and accountable.

Walking back from Mabs, we did pass Lux, and apparently that little underground spot opens at 24 h / Midnight, and then goes all night. It's on the radar, again, thanks to the good communication and reporting of Safado69.

So, after Safado69 and I finished a drink at Mabs.Vagabundo is up in here rhyming and shit LOLOLOL!

Sperto
08-25-20, 16:10
Quick update I was there last night hoping to catch some new talent and it was not meant to be...Thanks for your update. Have you been to any privées?

Java Man
08-25-20, 17:47
Rio seems intimidating to me -crime, COVID, language-but I want to conquer it.Crime? LOL You are aware of what's happening in the big US Cities? Chicago, Atlanta, New York, LA, Atlanta, Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, and elsewhere? Rio is probably safer! LOL Just don't out with your rolex and gold chains, and don't Flash your expensive smartphone of choice.


My question is, is staying in Barra not good for a first timerThink of Barra as a suburban area. It's way out of the action. You'll be spending a fortune and wasting a lot of time getting out of the area. It's not convenient. I stayed in Botafogo once, (it's right next to Copacabana,) what a mistake! I kept going back to the Copa area as it has more of everything and stays open late. It's also easy to get to Centro Privies via the Metro.

Vagabundo1
08-26-20, 16:15
Barra is more remote, maybe like Orange County to LOS Angeles, but I like it -- a lot.

It is beautiful. It is farther away from all the BS in Copa. The water, if you swim, is clean, which makes a difference to me. It is an added expense in uber to get girls there and back, but some girls do take buses.

All in all, I enjoy my view of the beach and the pedra do gavea. The cost is $2200 reais per month for a small room at transamerica. Av gastao senges 395. City buses can be had a block away. A dedicated bus for the condominium goes directly to cinelandia via Ipanema and Copa each day, hourly.

Last night, I actually went up to Caixis to do a session with a regular who was kind of in need of a massage. Since she does give good massages, I made the effort. It all went well, two orgasms, and I actually like the good local Brazilian porn, usually from sexyhot. She got mad when I paid her just $150, then another $50. Oh well. I did have to take a $90 reais uber back to my high rise by the Atlantic.


Crime? LOL You are aware of what's happening in the big US Cities? Chicago, Atlanta, New York, LA, Atlanta, Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, and elsewhere? Rio is probably safer! LOL Just don't out with your rolex and gold chains, and don't Flash your expensive smartphone of choice.

Think of Barra as a suburban area. It's way out of the action. You'll be spending a fortune and wasting a lot of time getting out of the area. It's not convenient. I stayed in Botafogo once, (it's right next to Copacabana,) what a mistake! I kept going back to the Copa area as it has more of everything and stays open late. It's also easy to get to Centro Privies via the Metro.

Mr Matrix
08-26-20, 18:01
Just got a tip from a Travel Agent mate British Airways have a world wide sale starting tomorrow for two or three days, included is London to Rio for travel between November and June next year for 377 pounds round trip.

Showdown
08-26-20, 18:43
I ran across this on Youtube. I'm wondering what the Rio pro mongers think of its accuracy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTO2_JRFK8A

Showdown.

WyattEarp
08-26-20, 19:54
I ran across this on Youtube. I'm wondering what the Rio pro mongers think of its accuracy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTO2_JRFK8A

Showdown.I'm not an expert on every nook and cranny of the Rio hobbying scene, but it has useful locations consolidated on a map. Almost all of them have been mentioned here. I find it odd that the author doesn't mention Vila Mimosa by name, but rather calls it the area near Hospital Quinta the'Or.

From time to time, ISG members have created customized Google maps for the Rio and SP hobbying scenes.

WyattEarp
08-26-20, 19:58
Barra is more remote, maybe like Orange County to LOS Angeles, but I like it -- a lot.

It is beautiful. It is farther away from all the BS in Copa. The water, if you swim, is clean, which makes a difference to me. It is an added expense in uber to get girls there and back, but some girls do take buses.

All in all, I enjoy my view of the beach and the pedra do gavea. The cost is $2200 reais per month for a small room at transamerica. Av gastao senges 395. City buses can be had a block away. A dedicated bus for the condominium goes directly to cinelandia via Ipanema and Copa each day, hourly.I think you have to consider that you live there for extended periods and are likely somewhat comfortable with the language. Rio for a first-timer can be an entirely different experience.

Vagabundo1
08-26-20, 20:29
Best prive talent is rua Djalma ulrich 163/701.

A 20 yo mulatta who was working rb156/2622 and a 18 yo are standouts.


Thanks for your update. Have you been to any prives?

Showdown
08-26-20, 20:52
I'm not an expert on every nook and cranny of the Rio hobbying scene, but it has useful locations consolidated on a map. Almost all of them have been mentioned here. I find it odd that the author doesn't mention Vila Mimosa by name, but rather calls it the area near Hospital Quinta the'Or.

From time to time, ISG members have created customized Google maps for the Rio and SP hobbying scenes.I've been reading about Vila Mimosa and its seediness attracts me. However I read on the web that it was torn down to make way for a subway. Is this true?

Showdown.

Exec Talent
08-26-20, 21:18
I ran across this on Youtube. I'm wondering what the Rio pro mongers think of its accuracy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTO2_JRFK8A

Showdown.Looks legit and to have been a lot of work.

The only ads are near the end and no hard sell.

Good rough cut but the key (especially with the private apartments) is how often they update.

This forum and other Brazil forums like:

https://www.gataurbana.com/blog/forum-gpguia-elite-gpface-cutuca/

https://forumgpluxuria.com/

https://www.belasecia.com/acompanhantes-niteroi/

http://www.hotside.com.br/acompanhantes-garotas-de-programa-rio-de-janeiro-rj.html/mestre/mod/forum/discuss.php

acompanhantes.com.br

Are good sources of current information.

Bravo
08-27-20, 16:33
I've been reading about Vila Mimosa and its seediness attracts me. However I read on the web that it was torn down to make way for a subway. Is this true?

Showdown.No, it is not true.

RobGenius
08-28-20, 03:38
Flew in from Miami via Sao Paulo then LATAM to SDU. Coming into customs this morning the lady kinda gave me a hard time for not printing my travel insurance, as I screenshot on my phone, FYI. Nice hotel deal 2 days for $37 total in Copa.

Its Sunday so its slow but I did manage to session with a big booty girl off photoach. For $200/ HR in Copa. Overall good session but she can't suck dick at all LOL bummer, walked down the street and what do you know, Mabs. Dead but ill take a look later tonight. Also thinking about going to VM, but unsure how it will be given covid and it being a Sunday, would hate to waste a trip.Bro,

You paid $200 for an hour of sex in a third world country? Baddies in Sosua are going for like $60 right now you tripping.

BeenBob
08-28-20, 23:36
Bro,

You paid $200 for an hour of sex in a third world country? Baddies in Sosua are going for like $60 right now you tripping.Pssst. That's more like $35.00 USD.

CkNice11
08-29-20, 01:08
Paying $60 in Sosua is way to high. $40 is what we all need to stick to maybe 50 of they are a solid 10. Anything higher and you fucking up the economy.


Pssst. That's more like $35.00 USD.

The Critic
08-29-20, 04:33
Barra is more remote, maybe like Orange County to LOS Angeles, but I like it -- a lot.
It is beautiful. It is farther away from all the BS in Copa. The water, if you swim, is clean, which makes a difference to me. It is an added expense in uber to get girls there and back, but some girls do take buses.
All in all, I enjoy my view of the beach and the pedra do gavea. The cost is $2200 reais per month for a small room at transamerica. Av gastao senges 395. City buses can be had a block away. A dedicated bus for the condominium goes directly to cinelandia via Ipanema and Copa each day, hourly.Agreed. Barra da Tijuca is a very nice area. IMHO Barra is not as remote due to access via the subway (Line 1 covering Copa to Line 4 covering Ipanema to Barra da Tijuca) to Jardim Oceanico (Metro Station) I had not problem or issue taking subway from Copa to Jardim Oceanico when going to Barra Shopping Mall.

Question:

Vagabundo1, Do you know if Transamerica Condo or other Condos & Apartments in the area have dedicated bus or transportation to the Jardim Oceanico (Metro Station)??

Exec Talent
08-29-20, 13:43
Agreed. Barra da Tijuca is a very nice area. IMHO Barra is not as remote due to access via the subway (Line 1 covering Copa to Line 4 covering Ipanema to Barra da Tijuca) to Jardim Oceanico (Metro Station) I had not problem or issue taking subway from Copa to Jardim Oceanico when going to Barra Shopping Mall.

Question:

Vagabundo1, Do you know if Transamerica Condo or other Condos & Apartments in the area have dedicated bus or transportation to the Jardim Oceanico (Metro Station)??I have spent a lot of time in Barra and beyond in Recreio near the Rio Water Planet amusement park. While the subway is much better than taxis, the bus or vans we used to take (before Uber), I think it depends on the length of your visit. You can chew up a lot of time in Rio just getting from place to place. Not sure that is how you want to use your time if you are only there for a week.

Calidru
08-30-20, 06:32
Can anyone advise on how to register for forumx? I used to have an account, but it looks like they changed up their site and may require a Brazilian cell number for registration. Everything seems fine through the registration, but I never get any confirmation to my email address. I'm looking at going back to Rio for the first time in awhile, and the info there is always great and up to date.

WyattEarp
08-30-20, 18:37
Can anyone advise on how to register for forumx? I used to have an account, but it looks like they changed up their site and may require a Brazilian cell number for registration. Everything seems fine through the registration, but I never get any confirmation to my email address. I'm looking at going back to Rio for the first time in awhile, and the info there is always great and up to date.This might seem overly simplistic, but in these situations I usually "borrow" a working number from other websites. Perhaps a Rio restaurant's phone number as an example.

TravelBug2020
08-30-20, 21:27
1st- I apologize if this is in the wrong section. I've been watching this forum the last 30 days.

So my buddies and I finally pulled the trigger to visit Rio at the end of Oct for 9 days (coming from the US). We usually hit Thailand a few times a year, and Thailand is out of the picture for 2020.

We decided since this was our 1st visit to Rio, we wanted to be on the beach of Coca. So we decided on Arena Hotel. (We can always change if we get advice to change) but we thought it was a good location for newbies. Close to a few thermas (Monte Carlo) and hopefully a few good bars.

I see a lot of great info on escorts on these forums, but not much info on thermas. We had our mind set to play at thermas, and look at some of those escort sites. The girls look amazing from R200 to R400. (Which is cheaper than Thailand) we also plan on checking out some apartment brothels based on that recent YouTube vid that was posted.

Just wanted to get a general vibe if anyone has advice. We are 4 guys from 28 to 40 years old.

Also what's the deal with love hotels. Are they all over in case we need to take an escort someplace? Arena hotel said they will allow a guest. But I'm sure they can change their mind. What are prices of love hotels?

Thanks all.

StuckAtHome
08-31-20, 01:02
1st- I apologize if this is in the wrong section. I've been watching this forum the last 30 days.

So my buddies and I finally pulled the trigger to visit Rio at the end of Oct for 9 days (coming from the US). We usually hit Thailand a few times a year, and Thailand is out of the picture for 2020.

We decided since this was our 1st visit to Rio, we wanted to be on the beach of Coca. So we decided on Arena Hotel. (We can always change if we get advice to change) but we thought it was a good location for newbies. Close to a few thermas (Monte Carlo) and hopefully a few good bars.

I see a lot of great info on escorts on these forums, but not much info on thermas. We had our mind set to play at thermas, and look at some of those escort sites. The girls look amazing from R200 to R400. (Which is cheaper than Thailand) we also plan on checking out some apartment brothels based on that recent YouTube vid that was posted.

Just wanted to get a general vibe if anyone has advice. We are 4 guys from 28 to 40 years old.

Also what's the deal with love hotels. Are they all over in case we need to take an escort someplace? Arena hotel said they will allow a guest. But I'm sure they can change their mind. What are prices of love hotels?

Thanks all.Good decision going to Rio. Its far superior to Thailand! Flat chests and no ass. The exact opposite in rio / Brazil!

Arena is bang in the middle of Copa, closer to leme so a great spot.

Yes there are plenty of love motels, usually pay for an hour or so and they are not expensive. Usually what would happen is you would pick up a girl outside Mabs (near Arena hotel) and they would bring you to a motel which would be very close to Mabs, price maybe 20 dollars or less I think. Usually the standard at Mabs wasn't great but who knows as its not exactly a normal time now.

Dolce Vita is a club on copa where are the freelancers go so you should hit there. And bring a girl from there to a motel or your hotel if you want.

I'm not sure what the thermas scene is like now but my favourite was Monte Carlo in Copa. Usually the hottest women in the thermas. Centaurus was expensive for Brazil but used to have the best women but I heard this has changed. Ask for the girls numbers / whatsapp and you can meet them for lunch / dinner another day.

Solarium is another great thermas which is worth getting an uber out to. So visit Monte Carlo. Solarium and Centaurus thermas.

Barbarella is shut now which was a great boite but you should go to Casablanca which is in copa as well, which is a boite / club. Maybe pick a girl up there and go to Rio Senarium in Lapa which is a samba / normal club. Google it!

Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, is the street with most of the apartment brothals. Copa 583 is a good spot there. Very cheap but I prefer the thermas and dolce vita scene.

WyattEarp
08-31-20, 03:23
We decided since this was our 1st visit to Rio, we wanted to be on the beach of Coca. So we decided on Arena Hotel. (We can always change if we get advice to change) but we thought it was a good location for newbies. Close to a few thermas (Monte Carlo) and hopefully a few good bars.

I see a lot of great info on escorts on these forums, but not much info on thermas. We had our mind set to play at thermas, and look at some of those escort sites. The girls look amazing from R200 to R400. (Which is cheaper than Thailand) we also plan on checking out some apartment brothels based on that recent YouTube vid that was posted.

Just wanted to get a general vibe if anyone has advice. We are 4 guys from 28 to 40 years old.

Also what's the deal with love hotels. Are they all over in case we need to take an escort someplace? Arena hotel said they will allow a guest. But I'm sure they can change their mind. What are prices of love hotels?

I'm not sure why you think there is not a lot of info on termas here. You would have to read posts from pre-March when things started to quiet down. Solarium has to be on your list. Centro has less expensive termas. Keep up here to see how things progress with the virus. Someone recently wrote that the termas were slow, but that will change.

If you have the time and patience, you might want to take a look at gp-guia.net and look for the highly rated escorts. It takes a small bit of knowledge of Portuguese and / or Google Translate. As much as some guys might think otherwise, reviews aren't exactly Shakespeare. I would say expect to pay R400-500 for top escorts. I don't know what you should expect for R200.

I'm not up on Love Motels. They are usually nearby and very cheap for a few hours. It's usually not worthwhile to rely on them, unless you want a hot tub, mirrors and some amenities every night. Best to find lodging where you are certain you will not be hassled. In fact, I've been down there with crews of 4 or more. It shouldn't be hard to find decent apartments in Copa. Two large two bedroom apartments in the same building sometimes with an ocean view and concierge should be available. I like a concierge. They will usually look out for you and the girls know that.

TravelBug2020
08-31-20, 05:38
I'm not sure why you think there is not a lot of info on termas here. You would have to read posts from pre-March when things started to quiet down. Solarium has to be on your list. Centro has less expensive termas. Keep up here to see how things progress with the virus. Someone recently wrote that the termas were slow, but that will change.

If you have the time and patience, you might want to take a look at gp-guia.net and look for the highly rated escorts. It takes a small bit of knowledge of Portuguese and / or Google Translate. As much as some guys might think otherwise, reviews aren't exactly Shakespeare. I would say expect to pay R400-500 for top escorts. I don't know what you should expect for R200.

I'm not up on Love Motels. They are usually nearby and very cheap for a few hours. It's usually not worthwhile to rely on them, unless you want a hot tub, mirrors and some amenities every night. Best to find lodging where you are certain you will not be hassled. In fact, I've been down there with crews of 4 or more. It shouldn't be hard to find decent apartments in Copa. Two large two bedroom apartments in the same building sometimes with an ocean view and concierge should be available. I like a concierge. They will usually look out for you and the girls know that.Good info. Thanks for the response. How much do the girls I. The thermas go far. R500 for a super hot escort is still cheaper than a hot stunner in a Thai gogo. And some of the woman I've seen on the escort sites are 9's.

Is the brothels hit and miss? Sounds interesting entering a apt. Doing some window shopping and if nothing catches your eye try a different spot.

I am really looking forward to my 1st trip to RIO. Not sure if it can compare to Thailand. But I'm keeping an open mind.

Exec Talent
08-31-20, 20:08
Seems we have a number of guys soon visiting Rio for the first time.

Suggest you keep consumption of alcohol to a minimum for many reasons. Many of the women you will encounter actually enjoy sex. You don't want to disappoint them. Another reason is safety. Alcohol dulls your senses and being drunk makes you a target. Over the years I have seen a lot of drunk gringos visit the private apartments in groups, making fools of themselves, causing a scene and issues for the establishments. Similar issues in rental apartments. Prostitution is legal in Brazil and tolerated most places. Being a drunken ass is not.

TravelBug2020
08-31-20, 20:13
Good decision going to Rio. Its far superior to Thailand! Flat chests and no ass. The exact opposite in rio / Brazil!

Arena is bang in the middle of Copa, closer to leme so a great spot.

Yes there are plenty of love motels, usually pay for an hour or so and they are not expensive. Usually what would happen is you would pick up a girl outside Mabs (near Arena hotel) and they would bring you to a motel which would be very close to Mabs, price maybe 20 dollars or less I think. Usually the standard at Mabs wasn't great but who knows as its not exactly a normal time now.

Dolce Vita is a club on copa where are the freelancers go so you should hit there. And bring a girl from there to a motel or your hotel if you want.

I'm not sure what the thermas scene is like now but my favourite was Monte Carlo in Copa. Usually the hottest women in the thermas. Centaurus was expensive for Brazil but used to have the best women but I heard this has changed. Ask for the girls numbers / whatsapp and you can meet them for lunch / dinner another day.

Solarium is another great thermas which is worth getting an uber out to. So visit Monte Carlo. Solarium and Centaurus thermas..Thanks for the response and info on spots to hit. Good to know our location is spot on. Hoping Montecarlo and a few other termas heat up in Oct. Really looking forward to this change of pace compared to Thailand.

WyattEarp
08-31-20, 22:25
......First day I went to solarium and Monte Carlo still not many gringos in town and the girls are anxiously waiting for September to arrive for things to pick up. Because of exchange rates not usd $110 is not bad so already been to solarium twice this week.

Next day I went to Centro and T65 and New York (Cancun). T65 staff and girls essential ex 4 x4. Pricing is best deal in terms of Tier 1 termas. Approx. $60 usd for a program. Attached below. Opens at 2 pm but that is just the bar area and then the main boate with loud music opens at 5 pm. I believe you can wear robe and street clothes in both areas. Talent was great after 5 pm but again clients were not many. Great time to be in Rio! Get ready to be bombarded for tips as I mentioned there are 4 x4 staff that migrated over and they were known for this practice with gringos.

New York / Cancun pricing still a great deal and not much is changed.The re-post above is specifically for TravelBug2020. See, I knew you weren't doing your homework. Don't make us have Vagabundo come over from Barra to kick your ass. ;-)

P.S.- With the coronavirus spreading rapidly around the globe this year, when did you decide on the handle TravelBug2020?

WyattEarp
08-31-20, 22:48
Is the brothels hit and miss? Sounds interesting entering a apt. Doing some window shopping and if nothing catches your eye try a different spot.

I am really looking forward to my 1st trip to RIO. Not sure if it can compare to Thailand. But I'm keeping an open mind.Brothels? Apartments? I think I know what you are asking. I'd say a termas was a brothel. I'm guessing by apartment you mean a prive.

A prive is small. Maybe a handful of girls are available at one time. Typically, prives are offices in a regular, working office building. That's why members tell newbies to act discreetly when entering the building and the elevator. Make sure you have the exact office and knock only on that door. Don't go around the building asking the people where is the prive or where are the girls.

Maybe some prive regulars here can tell you if going to a prive with four guys is a good plan. It's not a social thing like a termas or a bar / club. You also likely won't find four girls you want in one place. So maybe two guys go prive shopping. Of course, some buildings have a couple prives, but you still have to split up.

Now termas are great for a group outing. There's more girls, cocktails, music and some of girls will do a little dance. They are also more expensive. Solarium and possibly Monte Carlo will have hotter women than prives, but it only takes one prive girl to spark your interest if you are lucky. You guys are young. You can hit prives by day and termas in the evening.

Which leads me to Copacabana Beach. If any of you have any game (doesn't have to be major game), strike up conversations with young girls on the beach. Many of the girls will politely dismiss advances. Some of the girls might be interested. Some might be semi-pros looking for some fun and some extra cash.

PussyRiot
09-01-20, 02:33
Suggest you keep consumption of alcohol to a minimum for many reasons. Alcohol dulls your senses and being drunk makes you a target. YES. Please do not be drunk and walking around Copa area can get you mugged specifically at night times.

With Covid and not many tourists around, try to be extra careful of surroundings.

PussyRiot
09-01-20, 02:47
Make sure you have the exact office and knock only on that door. Don't go around the building asking the people where is the prive or where are the girls.I remembered visiting Av. Rio Branco, 185 building and knocking on all doors looking for belprazer for the first time.

People who answered the doors kept telling me to go up more. LOL. Good times. .

Turgid
09-01-20, 14:23
Seems we have a number of guys soon visiting Rio for the first time.

Suggest you keep consumption of alcohol to a minimum for many reasons. Many of the women you will encounter actually enjoy sex. You don't want to disappoint them. Another reason is safety. Alcohol dulls your senses and being drunk makes you a target. Over the years I have seen a lot of drunk gringos visit the private apartments in groups, making fools of themselves, causing a scene and issues for the establishments. Similar issues in rental apartments. Prostitution is legal in Brazil and tolerated most places. Being a drunken ass is not.Being drunk is for the young not for people over sixty. Being old and drunk is quite pathetic. However, having some alcohol in you is helpful especially when pursuing non-pros, it gives you greater confidence which all girls appreciate and lessens the negative impact of a refusal. Also hookers give better service if you are fun and have a sense of humor and alcohol does promote these attributes.

Combo
09-01-20, 14:30
Being drunk is for the young not for people over sixty. Being old and drunk is quite pathetic. However, having some alcohol in you is helpful especially when pursuing non-pros, it gives you greater confidence which all girls appreciate and lessens the negative impact of a refusal. Also hookers give better service if you are fun and have a sense of humor and alcohol does promote these attributes.A couple drinks is fine. But being so drunk that you can't walk straight is asking for trouble in most mongering destinations. People are watching you, and if you're obviously wasted, you become an easy target.

Sperto
09-01-20, 17:04
I remembered visiting Av. Rio Branco, 185 building and knocking on all doors looking for belprazer for the first time.
People who answered the doors kept telling me to go up more. LOL. Good times. .
Behaviour like that is one reason why one should think twice before sharing privê-addresses on a public forum.

Combo
09-01-20, 18:40
I remembered visiting Av. Rio Branco, 185 building and knocking on all doors looking for belprazer for the first time.

People who answered the doors kept telling me to go up more. LOL. Good times. .Regrettably, I did this at a different location in Rio years ago.

Mr Matrix
09-01-20, 19:48
Behaviour like that is one reason why one should think twice before sharing priv-addresses on a public forum.Valid point Sperto, but back on post 21363 is a link to a Youtube video showing the prive addresses including room numbers so its freely available information.

Vagabundo1
09-01-20, 20:18
So my Barra plan, after talking to a friend, is to check out Paris Cafe, which is a good call.

I talked to Fuckafmedig, and he reports talent is really good at solarium, but he is getting a lot of non pros from badoo.

I have them stacked up like airliners waiting to land. I do pay for uber and uber eats. So I am probably pretty top shelf as far as clients go.

Anyway, all is well. I do think its true that for a first time monger coming to Rio its easier and better to stick to Copacobana or Centro. I don't miss the interior of a apartment with annoying noise from cariocas at 1032 Av Nossa Senhora Copa for my view from the top of a 25 story tower of the prime Barra beach. It's not a huge room, of course, but it is perfect in all the right ways, especially the huge bed.

Last night my regular girl had her phone stolen right before she came, so I advanced her a little more, and she got a new one. I have a different negra PSE girl coming today, and found a nice negra with a big rack to add to the list.

All is well.

DreamCarnarvon
09-01-20, 20:59
I talked to Fuckafmedig, and he reports talent is really good at solarium, but he is getting a loteck out Paris Cafe, which is a good call. of non pros from badoo.Vaga, what are some good hookup apps for picking up "non-pros" in Brazil? Is badoo pretty much the best or are there others?

Exec Talent
09-01-20, 21:13
Being drunk is for the young not for people over sixty. Being old and drunk is quite pathetic. However, having some alcohol in you is helpful especially when pursuing non-pros, it gives you greater confidence which all girls appreciate and lessens the negative impact of a refusal. Also hookers give better service if you are fun and have a sense of humor and alcohol does promote these attributes.Have had great success around the world while sober. In fact, most people have a hard enough time being witty in their own language let alone in a foreign one. Comments here that say something like meet the girls on the beach and chat them up just show how little those making them know about Rio. I have had to translate quite often for ex-pats living in Brazil, some even married to Brazilians. There is more to being genuinely fluent in Portuguese than Tudo Bem and Obrigado.

Exec Talent
09-01-20, 21:25
Sounds like some of you are visiting Rio as a group.

If you do plan on drinking, one good option is a termas. Suggest you designate one guy as a non or light drinker. Also, have your exit planned. Are you going to take a cab or Uber? One thing I have seen time and time again is guys walking the streets acting like they own the place. You are being told by people who really know what they are talking about to keep low key, especially when visiting the private apartments. As for non-pros and freebies with pros the guys whom I have seen achieve the greatest success either have drugs or are easy going. Birthdays are important to Brazilians and I have gotten invited to a lot of parties because I would not embarrass my host. This does not mean you are a wimp when you are alone with the girl, it just means not being a jerk, especially a drunken one.

WyattEarp
09-01-20, 21:52
Have had great success around the world while sober. In fact, most people have a hard enough time being witty in their own language let alone in a foreign one. Comments here that say something like meet the girls on the beach and chat them up just show how little those making them know about Rio. I have had to translate quite often for ex-pats living in Brazil, some even married to Brazilians. There is more to being genuinely fluent in Portuguese than Tudo Bem and Obrigado.Nobody says it would be easy to chat up girls on the beach. It's fun to try and it don't cost nothin' but perhaps a caipirinha from a beach vendor. TravelBug2020 says his crew is age 28-40. If his crew is decent looking and half way confident, that is a perfect age to try to chat the girls up. Some of the local girls know a bit of English.

Chubzy Maximus
09-01-20, 23:16
Thanks for the response and info on spots to hit. Good to know our location is spot on. Hoping Montecarlo and a few other termas heat up in Oct. Really looking forward to this change of pace compared to Thailand.I think your plan to hit termas is spot on. Spend time at beach in copa during day eat and drink well during day. Head to centro so your in the terma 65 by 5:30 pm, make luv to your women. Make your way back to copa for night festivities. Check out MaBs (I wasn't a fan of the talent) and bar hop in that area. Weekend, hang in Ipanema and hit up solarium during day, head to Lapa at night. Not sure if Lapa will be happening on a sat night these days because of covid, it's possible though so keep it in mind. Lots of chics. Get #'s if you vibe with any of the terma chics! If they like Hi they will take you out and show you a good time.

Eat good food, drink good liquor, enjoy the sites, catch a game at maracana!

Vagabundo1
09-01-20, 23:31
According to fuckamefdig badoo is best.

I need to do some more work there.


Vaga, what are some good hookup apps for picking up "non-pros" in Brazil? Is badoo pretty much the best or are there others?

Vagabundo1
09-01-20, 23:38
I'm quite happy one of my regulars doesn't drink alcohol, and after having her phone stolen, says she is quitting weed.

As far as weed, safado69 has a good policy which is he does not smoke, but is glad to let the ladies smoke.

I am glad to cut back on the girls who do drink. It's really a way to avoid a reality that no one would much like.

At the very least I think at least one hit of weed at the start of a night is fine.

But as safado69 says, his drug is the sex.

Personally, my best times in Brazil is when I was physically fittest, I remember some pernoites with a top local ***** named alexia belucci, formerly ingra of 4 x 4, where we pretty much just fucked on and off all night until 13 h, like fuck an hour or two, sleep and hour, fuck; that's preferable to drinking and smoking a lot. Had a great night like that with a 18 yo negra in malaga. I have a picture of handprints on the mirror kkk (just to be clear in this day and age, hahaha in Brazilian Portuguese texting).


Have had great success around the world while sober. In fact, most people have a hard enough time being witty in their own language let alone in a foreign one. Comments here that say something like meet the girls on the beach and chat them up just show how little those making them know about Rio. I have had to translate quite often for ex-pats living in Brazil, some even married to Brazilians. There is more to being genuinely fluent in Portuguese than Tudo Bem and Obrigado.

TravelBug2020
09-02-20, 00:17
Sounds like some of you are visiting Rio as a group.

If you do plan on drinking, one good option is a termas. Suggest you designate one guy as a non or light drinker. Also, have your exit planned. Are you going to take a cab or Uber? One thing I have seen time and time again is guys walking the streets acting like they own the place. You are being told by people who really know what they are talking about to keep low key, especially when visiting the private apartments. As for non-pros and freebies with pros the guys whom I have seen achieve the greatest success either have drugs or are easy going. Birthdays are important to Brazilians and I have gotten invited to a lot of parties because I would not embarrass my host. This does not mean you are a wimp when you are alone with the girl, it just means not being a jerk, especially a drunken one.Thanks for the replies. We obviously like to have a good time, but we stayed buzzed, and never get fucked up. We are also not the type to cause a scene. We are laid back group. We also know its our 1st time in Rio, and the reputation Rio has. So we will be alert.

We don't plant to walk much at night. We anticipate talking ubers to different termas at night. But during the day we plan to hit the beach, day drink and hit the tourist spots.

Our plan is termas for sure. But we've been checking out those escort sites, just don't know how real the photos are.

We are also considering canceling our hotel, since we found out they do charge a fee for guests. So we just might rent a 4 bedroom apt on coca Beach. With an ocean front and steps away from the beach.

We are still going in somewhat blind. Is there no action until termas get going at 5 pm? Sure we will flirt and try our game at the beach but no expectations.

So should it just be termas, and escort sites? Maybe some freelance bars like mabs and the one across from mabs that was mentioned a few posts.

Thanks for all the help.

TravelBug2020
09-02-20, 00:19
Nobody says it would be easy to chat up girls on the beach. It's fun to try and it don't cost nothin' but perhaps a caipirinha from a beach vendor. TravelBug2020 says his crew is age 28-40. If his crew is decent looking and half way confident, that is a perfect age to try to chat the girls up. Some of the local girls know a bit of English.Yes, we plan on hitting the beach up during the day to relax, day drink and flirt with the girls. We have no expectations. Plus we are heading out late Oct. Is the beach still crowded. Plus still covid so I'm sure its not crowded as the past.

Game plan is termas and escorts right now. But we are still researching options.

Sperto
09-02-20, 06:18
Valid point Sperto, but back on post 21363 is a link to a Youtube video showing the prive addresses including room numbers so its freely available information.
I listened to half of the video. Besides mentioning a dozen privées in Centro and a few in Copacabana I didn't find the video useful. Many of the spots for streetworkers are not useful unless you have a car, and some streetwalker spots are in unsafe areas if you're on foot. Besides that the purpose of the video seems to sell sex-pills and sex-toys. If you're a newbie coming down for a week you'll propably be happy with just visiting Belprazer, Dudas and some overpriced Copacabana privées. If so, the video will be useful for you.

There are propably at least 100 privées in Centro. A bunch of larger wellknown privées and lots of smaller privées, clinicas, casas de massagem and trash casas. Many of these privées change location constantly. They close down or move. The gems are often girls who just started working in smaller privées. To stay updated on the privê situation you have to study the local forums or explore by yourself.

There is a reason most privées are anonymous. They are often located in office buildings. Their customers are local officeworkers coming for a quickie. Everybody wants discretion. The last thing anybody wants is a group of loud gringos walking the corridors, knocking on doors asking for putas.

Vagabundo1
09-02-20, 19:13
https://www.xvideos.com/?k=Gabriela+Ramos.

And 4 other girls including a 18 yo.

140 r for hour.

120 r with a Vasco máscara.

Monger on fellas.

WyattEarp
09-02-20, 20:31
Yes, we plan on hitting the beach up during the day to relax, day drink and flirt with the girls. We have no expectations. Plus we are heading out late Oct. Is the beach still crowded. Plus still covid so I'm sure its not crowded as the past.

Game plan is termas and escorts right now. But we are still researching options.Don't forget you can visit prives in the afternoon especially if the weather is not good for the beach. Sperto is probably right advising newbies to stick to Belprazer, Dudas and the Copa prives. Termas don't seem to get going until after 5 pm.

I think most newbies who are there for six days or more visit Corcovado Mountain (the Christ statue). Sugarloaf Mountain is fine, but for me a far behind second priority from Corcovado.

In the Sao Paulo section, Rovnak and I have written some details on how to find the top escorts. As a general rule, don't go shopping at the escort websites and pick them out by their photos. I prefer to start with the highly rated escorts on gp-guia and work back to their photos on escort websites or Twitter to see if I like what I see. Funny thing is Brazilian reviewers call a session a Test Drive (TD). The site will show who has the most positive TDs.

I'm sure you are figuring out Rio is not like Bangkok and Pattaya where it's fairly easy for tourists to find the girls. Rio was once like that ten years ago. There were a string of venues from the North end of Copa to the Arpoador point area with the world's greatest disco in the middle.

FlcnHvy
09-02-20, 22:59
What's the lowest you'll go? I offered 300/ night, but we also 'connected'. I feel like low balling and setting somethinng up for 3 days a week. First though was 800, but maybe 700. My initial thought was 500 for 2 days. (prices all in Real).

TravelBug2020
09-03-20, 00:17
Don't forget you can visit prives in the afternoon especially if the weather is not good for the beach. Sperto is probably right advising newbies to stick to Belprazer, Dudas and the Copa prives. Termas don't seem to get going until after 5 pm.

I think most newbies who are there for six days or more visit Corcovado Mountain (the Christ statue). Sugarloaf Mountain is fine, but for me a far behind second priority from Corcovado.

In the Sao Paulo section, Rovnak and I have written some details on how to find the top escorts. As a general rule, don't go shopping at the escort websites and pick them out by their photos. I prefer to start with the highly rated escorts on gp-guia and work back to their photos on escort websites or Twitter to see if I like what I see. Funny thing is Brazilian reviewers call a session a Test Drive (TD). The site will show who has the most positive TDs.

I'm sure you are figuring out Rio is not like Bangkok and Pattaya where it's fairly easy for tourists to find the girls. Rio was once like that ten years ago. There were a string of venues from the North end of Copa to the Arpoador point area with the world's greatest disco in the middle.Great info. And thanks for telling me what TD meant. I was thinking it meant touchdown. But test drive makes more sense.

Good info on escorts. My friends I are were thinking some of the woman on those sites look to good to be true. I added a few to my whatsapp. I guess being optimistic that some are real.

When I have boots on ground. I will play with Badoo and tinder as well. Thanks for info on prives. I need to research them more to find where to find them. And obviously cannot go in with a group of 4.

Also how many girls typically work in a therma? Trying to get some type of expectation in my head. Hate that they charge a fee to enter without knowing what is available. Any way around that? I just don't want to enter a terma that has like 2 girls. The more the better. I like good atmosphere, don't mind paying a bit more for the environment.

Big Daddy 1906
09-03-20, 02:50
I haven't been to Rio in a very long time. Back when "The Office" (aka Help) was ground zero and all was well in the world. I remember that I hooked up with Babalu at 4 x4, not realizing that she was a porn star. One of the best Rio experiences I ever had. Where is she these days?

Vagabundo1
09-03-20, 05:11
You can't make this up.

So, it's a empty night in the schedule of Vagabundo last night because callsign MIDORI (because she takes it up the ass like a young Midori, late 1990's) got her phone stolen (see prior posts), and Vagabundo gave her 500 instead of 400 to help her buy back her portal to higher education and Vagabundo being a vagabond, ordered MONIQUE (because she has a negra bunda and ass like a young Monique, though she has widened her hips to be about a Noemie Bilas) to come over, and Vagabundo and MONIQUE banged like teens all night, good for two pops, but it was the hours of slow banging a negra who is a samba dancer.

So, I fucking knew this would happen.

Of course, MIDORI comes over tonight, and even though Transamerica did make up the room, MONIQUE smoked MIDORI's weed! (It ws actually my weed, but MIDORI knows Vagabundo doesn't smoke alone), so MIDORI punished Vagabundo with all kinds of hate, but after ordering excellent shrimp and a few big macs, MIDORI took it up the ass like a champ, her little ass opened up like the German army taking a Russian tank column at Stalingrad, or like Shaka zulu's girlfriend, MIDORI taking it up the ass from a German imperialist. How's that for triggering?

So, midday, Vagabundo linked up with Fuckamefdig at 583. The best prive was on the second floor, where both of our local heros took their chosen hookers for a stroll for an hour. Cost was 150 r.

I already mentioned that RB156/ Sala 1018 has a real porn star.

MIDORI wants Vagabundo to order a white girl for a dupla. Vagabundo plans on having the 18 year old white girl, a lovely little teen, from sala 1018 over so that MIDORI can slide all kinds of lewd shafts into Traci Lords holes, maybe a few knuckles too. Because MIDORI is mainly pissed at Vagabundo fucking in THEIR apartment at Transamerica, and she wants to dominate a branquina.

So a dupla will have to be had to punish Vagabundo. The things I do for art.

Cheers to Fuckamefdig, a true men among men, a Kipling. A fine dinner was had at Principe do Monaco at Miguel Lemos 18, Copacobana.

Monger on fellas.

Oh yeah, MIDORI wants a boob job. Did I mention that I met a plastic surgeon in the elevator at Transamerica. Tells you everything you need to know about this great Apartment Hotel.


https://www.xvideos.com/?k=Gabriela+Ramos.

And 4 other girls including a 18 yo.

140 r for hour.

120 r with a Vasco mscara.

Monger on fellas.

Vagabundo1
09-03-20, 05:38
My pernoite rate is 350.

400 in come cases.

I also get food and uber.

Some girls ask for 600 an hour (top tier blond in my apartment), which I declined.

I took MIDORI to Buzios for two days and did pay her 400 a day, so I get 48 hours of all you an eat compared to 600 an hour, even if she is like a 18 year old amber lynn.

Nah.


What's the lowest you'll go? I offered 300/ night, but we also 'connected'. I feel like low balling and setting somethinng up for 3 days a week. First though was 800, but maybe 700. My initial thought was 500 for 2 days. (prices all in Real).

Java Man
09-03-20, 07:31
Don't expect Rio to be like Pattaya. From 2001 to 2013 I visited Rio regularly. In 2013 I started hitting Pattaya. My first Pattaya trip, I encountered many flat butts and chests. However, on subsequent trips I found nice round bubble butts, although they're not as big as the Brazilian babes. I've also found naturally busty Thai babes. There is also plenty of silicone. IMHO, Rio is a bit more like Bangkok, in that you'll have to go find the venues. Check out the Rio map, created by WorldTravel69, last updated 12/20/19 for more info:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=-22.94401434370124%2C-43.21319308073772&z=13&mid=1ojY266Fe5FV1Agvijro65Bt9xIz2TMwH

The Rio locals call themselves Cariocas, they're less inhibited than the Thai ladies. They like to hit the beach and get suntans, unlike the Thais, who have an aversion to brown skin. LOL.

Rio is a lot of fun, but Pattaya is more fun simply because it has more options and venues. (Well, More fun for me.) And I still go to Rio, I just spend more time in Pattaya now.

HangerOne
09-03-20, 11:32
I sessioned with her at her incall the other day and was definitely impressed with her oral. She's a little bigger than I like but a good go to for the price point if you like them thicker.


https://www.xvideos.com/?k=Gabriela+Ramos.

And 4 other girls including a 18 yo.

140 r for hour.

120 r with a Vasco mscara.

Monger on fellas.

The Cane
09-03-20, 12:49
Rio is a lot of fun, but Pattaya is more fun simply because it has more options and venues. (Well, More fun for me.) And I still go to Rio, I just spend more time in Pattaya now.I find that guys who are enamored with Thailand tend not to like mongering in Brazil nearly as much. Admittedly, there is a level of bright lights and in your face excitement in Thailand that you don't find in Brazil, which is more understated. But for me, it all comes down to the women and what type you like. As you say, Brazilian women are in general far less inhibited (leaving them to be "overstated" in the room in a good way), and they have more of the type of narrow-hipped, bubble butt build that I like (but of course it's a populous, diverse country where you can find all types and colors). I always say that paradise for me would be Pattaya beach lined up and down with German-style FKKs filled to the brim with Brazilian girls!

TravelBug2020
09-03-20, 17:24
Don't expect Rio to be like Pattaya. From 2001 to 2013 I visited Rio regularly. In 2013 I started hitting Pattaya. My first Pattaya trip, I encountered many flat butts and chests. However, on subsequent trips I found nice round bubble butts, although they're not as big as the Brazilian babes. I've also found naturally busty Thai babes. There is also plenty of silicone. IMHO, Rio is a bit more like Bangkok, in that you'll have to go find the venues. Check out the Rio map, created by WorldTravel69, last updated 12/20/19 for more info:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=-22.94401434370124%2C-43.21319308073772&z=13&mid=1ojY266Fe5FV1Agvijro65Bt9xIz2TMwH

The Rio locals call themselves Cariocas, they're less inhibited than the Thai ladies. They like to hit the beach and get suntans, unlike the Thais, who have an aversion to brown skin. LOL.

Rio is a lot of fun, but Pattaya is more fun simply because it has more options and venues. (Well, More fun for me.) And I still go to Rio, I just spend more time in Pattaya now.At java Man. This is great intel. I've been going to Pattaya since 2014, and it probably fucked my mind up. Prior to Pattaya I never did P4P. And I'm sure Pattaya spoiled me. And since 2014 only traveled SE Asia. And Pattaya is just amazing. With that said, I guess the only positive of covid its forcing me to try other places that I always wanted to go, but put off cause I loved Thailand so much.

The prices from my research on this forum seem to be better than Thailand. But looks more difficult to actually find girls. Either way. I'm looking forward to exploring rio for 8 days in Oct. And testing those girls out.

WyattEarp
09-03-20, 19:11
I haven't been to Rio in a very long time. Back when "The Office" (aka Help) was ground zero and all was well in the world. I remember that I hooked up with Babalu at 4 x4, not realizing that she was a porn star. One of the best Rio experiences I ever had. Where is she these days?At least, you got away from Ground Zero to visit 4 x4. Back in the day, many gringos would simply book an apartment near Help, get up late, hit the beach, visit Meia Pataca and other outdoor cafes, hit Help Disco, fuck all night, rinse and repeat. They would spend the entire trip in a two block radius.

Even if your only cultural exploration is the Centro termas, I think it's good to check out the city a bit. Perhaps try to learn some Portuguese.

There used to be a great club out by Barra to check out young, civilian Brasileiras shaking their asses. You would walk across a small bridge as the club was on a strip of land on the coast. Does anyone know if it still exists in one form or another?

Rio Bob
09-03-20, 21:44
At least, you got away from Ground Zero to visit 4 x4. Back in the day, many gringos would simply book an apartment near Help, get up late, hit the beach, visit Meia Pataca and other outdoor cafes, hit Help Disco, fuck all night, rinse and repeat. They would spend the entire trip in a two block radius.

Even if your only cultural exploration is the Centro termas, I think it's good to check out the city a bit. Perhaps try to learn some Portuguese.

There used to be a great club out by Barra to check out young, civilian Brasileiras shaking their asses. You would walk across a small bridge as the club was on a strip of land on the coast. Does anyone know if it still exists in one form or another?Yes the good old days getting an apartment right on Miguel Lemos and have everything you need within 3 or 4 blocks, Paradise! LOL. Sure I'd go downtown to visit 4 x4 occasionally.

Learning Portuguese, for those of you who have Pimsleur I, II and III like I have, I've been just using them for refresher past couple of years right before a trip. I would listen to the 90 lessons and refresh my memory, not learning anything new but just to maintain. Recently I discovered Pimsleur published level 4 and 5. I purchased level 4 on Amazon's Audible, not free and not cheap about $120 with tax. I have already went through the first 3 lessons and it offers new words and good practice on past and future tense which is more advanced, so I'm learning again.

Wow that club in Barra I think you are referring to was called Nuth. I just googled it and on tripadvisor the last mention of it was in 2015 so doesn't look like it's still in business. This club was probably very popular 15 years ago or so, very popular club but looks like no more.

The Cane
09-03-20, 22:10
Wow that club in Barra I think you are referring to was called Nuth. I just googled it and on trip advisor the last mention of it was in 2015 so doesn't look like it's still in business. This club was probably very popular 15 years ago or so, very popular club but looks like no more.The only time I ventured out to Barra, I went to a joint called Cafe 400, and it was a good experience. I ended up cornholing me some "Playboy Bunny" bunda named Daniela (pictured). It seems that the place could still be there:

https://www.guiamais.com.br/rio-de-janeiro-rj/noite/boates-e-night-clubs/14011277-2/cafe-400

Say while looking around for Cafe 400 I found this place called Perla Negra in Barra as well. Looks enticing!

http://perolanegraclub.com.br/inicio/

WyattEarp
09-03-20, 22:42
Wow that club in Barra I think you are referring to was called Nuth. I just googled it and on tripadvisor the last mention of it was in 2015 so doesn't look like it's still in business. This club was probably very popular 15 years ago or so, very popular club but looks like no more.Nuth was a great club, but I don't think it was on the water. I think the place with the small walking bridge was Ilha dos Pescadores. It was very close to Nuth. It is no longer in business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFd55TypVhk

Okay keeping it real, I would say the Lapa street party is where it's at now for a music scene with civilians.

Combo
09-04-20, 00:59
I remember Nuth. Fun place, and there were a couple other good clubs out there when you wanted to mix it up and take a break from Help and the Termas.

Sperto
09-04-20, 03:22
Regarding Nuth and Ilha does Pescadores, two very different places. As RioBob wrote, Nuth closed at least 5 years ago, a upperclass club popular even on Sundays (or Mondays) when it was the night for horny older women to go there. Ilha dos Pescadores, located on a small island in one of the mini-lakes, had a much more simple and fun clientel IMO. It used to be extremely popular on Thursdays in the nineties. I don't know if it still exist.

I think most of the old clubs are long gone. Baronetti, Banana Café, Melt, People, Trash, Mariuzinn, Gipsy, Scala, Plataforma and the afterwork-clubs in Centro. No worries as there always pop-up new clubs.

Bravo
09-04-20, 05:36
I absolutely love going to the clubs in Rio.

Sou Nunca, Pink Elephant, Radar, Red (Niteroi), Club 00, Rei de Bacalhau, Vitrinni Lounge, Castelo Das Pedras, Via Show, Olimpio, 40 Grau. So many amazing places to go dancing, drinking and trying to hit on the local girls.

In fact, one of the best ways I could get "free dates" with terma girls was asking them where they were from. When they would tell me, I would rattle off clubs in their area and they would be shocked that I had been there. They would laugh and ask "What the fuck were you doing in Duque de Caxias (Caxias 18) or some baile funk club deep in the hood?

Turgid
09-04-20, 13:58
Don't expect Rio to be like Pattaya. From 2001 to 2013 I visited Rio regularly. In 2013 I started hitting Pattaya. My first Pattaya trip, I encountered many flat butts and chests. However, on subsequent trips I found nice round bubble butts, although they're not as big as the Brazilian babes. I've also found naturally busty Thai babes. There is also plenty of silicone. IMHO, Rio is a bit more like Bangkok, in that you'll have to go find the venues. Check out the Rio map, created by WorldTravel69, last updated 12/20/19 for more info:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=-22.94401434370124%2C-43.21319308073772&z=13&mid=1ojY266Fe5FV1Agvijro65Bt9xIz2TMwH

The Rio locals call themselves Cariocas, they're less inhibited than the Thai ladies. They like to hit the beach and get suntans, unlike the Thais, who have an aversion to brown skin. LOL.

Rio is a lot of fun, but Pattaya is more fun simply because it has more options and venues. (Well, More fun for me.) And I still go to Rio, I just spend more time in Pattaya now.The difference in looks does not matter much for me. One day I would like Brazilian, the next Thai and yet the other Romanian. The real difference for me is service and Brazil knocks them out of the park.

WyattEarp
09-04-20, 17:17
Also how many girls typically work in a therma? Trying to get some type of expectation in my head. Hate that they charge a fee to enter without knowing what is available. Any way around that? I just don't want to enter a terma that has like 2 girls. The more the better. I like good atmosphere, don't mind paying a bit more for the environment.Just relax. That's the purpose of a termas. The entrada (cover charge) is not a lot. I think Solarium charges 40 reais ($7. 50). Last week, it looks like Solarium even had a gratis promotion on their Facebook page.

You're on a first-time vacation. You don't have to take one for the team and find new termas. Just go to the tried and true. Solarium, 65, Monte Carlo. You will likely want to revisit one or two a second time. I have gone into the top termas with four or five guys and we would almost always all find someone to our liking. Hell, we rarely desired the same girl. One buddy wanted slim blondes. Another wanted busty girls. I wanted morenas with nice asses.

Barring any major changes on the COVID front, it sounds like the termas hostesses are back at work. You might have read about 4 x4 (closed due to a fire). Then there is Centaurus which was the New York Yankees of termas to some not too long ago. It sounds like Centaurus is having terrible management and recruitment issues. It's also very pricey.

On a rainy day, you might decide to go to Monte Carlo or Solarium around 3 pm just after they open (5 pm is more optimal). Just have a drink, a snack, chill and wait for more girls to arrive. By all means, if you can communicate discreetly collect phone numbers. Believe me, there were times we showed up at 5 pm, had two sessions and closed down a place.

Jimmy Boy 99
09-04-20, 19:25
Just relax. That's the purpose of a termas. The entrada (cover charge) is not a lot. I think Solarium charges 40 reais ($7. 50). Last week, it looks like Solarium even had a gratis promotion on their Facebook page.Snip.The last time I went to Solarium, in 11/2018, the entrada was 110 reals. Perhaps they reduced it now to drum up business.

WyattEarp
09-04-20, 19:50
The last time I went to Solarium, in 11/2018, the entrada was 110 reals. Perhaps they reduced it now to drum up business.Thanks Jimmy, I'm glad you caught my error. It was a 40 Reais discount if you showed them the Facebook promotion. Other recent promotions applied 40 reais of the entrance fee towards consumption.

I'm sure most everyone will agree that it is still worth $20 to visit Solarium at least once. If you don't think of it as in and out, but rather as entertainment most vacationers gladly pay the entrance fee.

TravelBug2020
09-04-20, 22:59
Just booked Apt in Copacabana, right on beach. Decided this was probably better than the hotel.

Since we have a group of 4.

The apt is right in front of posto 5. Hope its a solid area.

Apt has private elevator entrance. Is it worth tipping the doorman out there to ensure they take care of you and your "guests'?

FlcnHvy
09-04-20, 23:52
Nice, seems about right. My post submitted before it was completed fully.

The girl is a semipro. I've been meeting a few from SA / Tinder. It's been alright. Connected with the one I mentioned in the pre-mature post.

Had offered her 300 a night / dining etc. She was happy. Cute Uni Girl. I tried to low ball her an offer for a month, 2000 for 3 visits / week, her bubbly mood changed quite quickly and she actually left, although she said it was all the meat she ate (it was a lot), so I will keep the same rate.

I arrived in Rio a few weeks ago, my first impressions are GOOD. In terms of safety / vibe / costs. Staying in Copacabana / Ipanema seem very safe to me. Of course anything can happen if you are dumbass and drivers / girls have mentioned it can be quite dangerous in some areas.

Outside of the SemiPro's I've been seeing, I got off to a BAD start on photoacomphantes. ALOT of these girls are curvy and know how to make Photos look completely opposite to real life (and they are touched up). This is obvious. I repeated the mistake a few times, but I'm a gambler.

I did end up finding a 19 year old and when I walked in to the apartment, I was very happy. BJ with a condom, no anal. But I got the full 40 minutes of fucking (after I went to the gym), for 150 are. She offers 130 are for 30 minutes. I think it depends on what she thinks of you, but she seemed good value. The apartment required ID to enter and it wasn't the cleanest. I repeated and may again in the future for a quickie.

+552197xxxx675 WA. Her photos aren't real so I won't post the link.

+553199xxxx773 , an alternative 22 year old. Photos are real (photoacomphanntes). A bit of chub, but tight body / pussy. + tongue ring. Again all service with condom. Her personality was great. I went with the intention of 30 minutes (100 r) but saw her and immediately changed to 1 HR (160 r). She is located in zona south. Friendly girl, safe apartment. I intended to repeat but feeling a bit lazy to go out there to see her as of now.

I will be heading to some Termas / Prives when I recharge. My intuition leads me to believe most of there are many hotties to be found on the outskirts of Copa.

Also, the two Airbnb's have been super laxed and on problem with lettign women up, although they did not look complete hookers. The AirBnB I am currently at has no doorman in the evenings, but in general I do not see it as a problem, maybe I've lucked out.


My pernoite rate is 350.

400 in come cases.

I also get food and uber.

Some girls ask for 600 an hour (top tier blond in my apartment), which I declined.

I took MIDORI to Buzios for two days and did pay her 400 a day, so I get 48 hours of all you an eat compared to 600 an hour, even if she is like a 18 year old amber lynn.

Nah.

Vagabundo1
09-05-20, 02:18
Midori refused to give massage. Strike one.

Vagabundo is getting ready to strike her out. She gives good bareback anal. Other positive is she is a real pharmacia student. Always stalling, and then rushing me to cum. Not enough sex.

Strike two is she intentionally stresses me by always demanding more and more expensive uber eats.

Pro tip from fuckamefdig:

Tell the girl to send her address and order the uber for her to come to you. That way you at least see the exact travel time.

Vagabundo1
09-05-20, 18:57
1 do you have kids.

2 where do you live.

3 do you do BBBJ / BBFS?

Right answers.

1 no (if yes run).

2 As close as possible.

3 yes (fuck in the prive)/ yes.

Naked as the day I way born.

FlcnHvy
09-05-20, 19:19
Just booked Apt in Copacabana, right on beach. Decided this was probably better than the hotel.

Since we have a group of 4.

The apt is right in front of posto 5. Hope its a solid area.

Apt has private elevator entrance. Is it worth tipping the doorman out there to ensure they take care of you and your "guests'?I've had zero issues. Brought up 4-5 women. None of them looked like total hookers. I assume it can depend. If it looks like you're about to have an orgy, maybe it's a nice gesture. Only concern if you're staying long term they might view you as an ATM.

Zero issues with my AirBnb's thus far.

TravelBug2020
09-06-20, 19:42
I've had zero issues. Brought up 4-5 women. None of them looked like total hookers. I assume it can depend. If it looks like you're about to have an orgy, maybe it's a nice gesture. Only concern if you're staying long term they might view you as an ATM.

Zero issues with my AirBnb's thus far.Thanks for that info. I noticed my airnb host in his house rules said only "high class people allowed in" hahha. I was like what if I meet a girl on the beach or in a bar. He said as long as you are discreet. So it's kind of confusing. But again just hope the doorman doesn't give me problems. If so, give him a few bucks.

The Critic
09-07-20, 05:32
Apt has private elevator entrance. Is it worth tipping the doorman out there to ensure they take care of you and your "guests'?I kinda would not tip. If so, (one time during stay) possibly on last night / departure. Do not want to create a expectation that Airbnb guest should tip. Its their job and the building pays their salary.

However, If it makes you feel safe and or enhances your experience, go for it. Do what you like! A tip can't hurt.

Rathberg
09-07-20, 16:16
Pretty excited to be visiting in a few weeks. Not sure how long I'll stay but looking to stay a solid few months.

Will probably start off in Rio and see what happens.

Created an account finally so I can post my reviews and experiences!

Exec Talent
09-07-20, 18:56
When I arrive at an apartment, I always introduce myself to the doorman (porteiro). I ask him if he can help me with my bags, even if I do not need help. I give him a tip for his help. I make sure to say his name several times after the introduction and write it down as soon as I can to make sure I do not forget it. Each time I pass I might ask something about him or his family, but always take time to stop and chat. If you have spent any time in Brazil you would have noticed how the building residents always address the doorman by name and with respect. He knows everyone and everything about everyone, especially the building manager. If I am getting pastels or an açaí to bring back to the building, I get one for him as well.

Fortunately, I had good role models growing up who treated people the same regardless of their station. Starting out in business it was often commented to me that I got to see someone or got something because a secretary (also known as the gatekeeper) liked me.

Keep in mind that the girl you just met and soon will be alone with you in your apartment doesn't know anything about you except you have money and will be giving some of it to her in exchange for sex. Can't tell you how many times a doorman in a hotel or apartment building has pulled a girl aside and said something to her. Maybe if some of you handled yourselves a little differently, there wouldn't be so much discussion about whether a particular place is girl-friendly.

TravelBug2020
09-07-20, 22:02
When I arrive at an apartment, I always introduce myself to the doorman (porteiro). I ask him if he can help me with my bags, even if I do not need help. I give him a tip for his help. I make sure to say his name several times after the introduction and write it down as soon as I can to make sure I do not forget it. Each time I pass I might ask something about him or his family, but always take time to stop and chat. If you have spent any time in Brazil you would have noticed how the building residents always address the doorman by name and with respect. He knows everyone and everything about everyone, especially the building manager. If I am getting pastels or an aa to bring back to the building, I get one for him as well.

Fortunately, I had good role models growing up who treated people the same regardless of their station. Starting out in business it was often commented to me that I got to see someone or got something because a secretary (also known as the gatekeeper) liked me.

Keep in mind that the girl you just met and soon will be alone with you in your apartment doesn't know anything about you except you have money and will be giving some of it to her in exchange for sex. Can't tell you how many times a doorman in a hotel or apartment building has pulled a girl aside and said something to her. Maybe if some of you handled yourselves a little differently, there wouldn't be so much discussion about whether a particular place is girl-friendly.Thanks for the reply, but it's not really addressing the question for a newbie. I totally agree with you, I treat everyone with the same respect regardless of their profession. Anyone who is working to provide for their family, earns my respect.

I like the idea of getting to know his name, and saying Hello, etc. Are you saying just treat the man with respect, and you shouldn't have a problem with your guests (given that they don't cause problems).

Aftet researching the past year on this forum their wasn't really any consistency with how to get girls back to your apartment. Most of the posts of hotels do not allow girls. (I cancelled my hotel once theh told me in writing they charge R200) for guest). Some posts also mentioned that even apartment doorman wouldn't allow "guests in".

I plan to bring guests in, but also understand I will need to be discreet and be pleasant with the gatekeeper aka the doorman.

I appreciate the response.

FlcnHvy
09-08-20, 01:26
Is there a list of Prives I can access? Where is 583 located?

Any help appreciated.

Need to explore the scene more, semipros are getting very boring.

FlcnHvy
09-08-20, 02:27
Is there a list of Prives I can access? Where is 583 located?

Any help appreciated.

Need to explore the scene more, semipros are getting very boring.OK, gparena.net is a good resource amongst the other posted in page 4/5 of this thread.

Think ill be going om a bender this week and will prep for it.

Prives and termas. Hope the termas have some talent right now.

ID like to set up some per noites with some gals that know how to f*ck.

Anyone have any experience with picking up freelancers on the street in centro.

Lets see how this week goes. Haven't yet had the Brazilian bombshell I have depicted in my head.

Cheers.

TravelBug2020
09-08-20, 02:29
Is there a list of Prives I can access? Where is 583 located?

Any help appreciated.

Need to explore the scene more, semipros are getting very boring.Scroll down a page or so, someone responded to one of my posts with a Google map that shared prives. It was last updated in Dec. But had a lot of info. And would be great if you can report on some of them. If they are open, good service etc.

Jingo10
09-08-20, 04:49
Is there a list of Prives I can access? Where is 583 locatedDo a Google search for copa583 they have a website, it's in the centre of Copacabana, the rooms are big and clean and the service there is quite good. Enter the building go to the end of the corridor and up the stairs, don't use the lift.

I am not experienced in Brazil, but the best service I got was from girls in Centro not Copa, just use the metro to get there. Owo, CIM, anal, DFK etc are pretty standard.

I did a report here.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2415484#post2415484.

For prives try the following site which is a good start but be careful with bait and switch especially for Copa located girls. Some girls are working out of parlours and some from apartments, I've had great service from both.

https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/

I used*gparena.net*to find local reviews, click on relatos (reports) use Google Chrome to translate the site and look for positive reports. There will be links to the girls photos. I just went through until I found girls that appealed and contacted using WA. I don't speak Portuguese but that was not a problem. It takes a bit of effort.

Colombia is next on my list when things open, but the service I got from the Brazil girls was the best I've ever had.

Jimmy Boy 99
09-08-20, 04:56
Is there a list of Prives I can access? Where is 583 located?

Any help appreciated.

Need to explore the scene more, semipros are getting very boring.The first five pages should give you the addresses and sometimes prices (which you should always confirm first if you go to one of them) of enough places to check out. Use a translation app if you want to check out the reviews of the girls.

https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=89

WyattEarp
09-08-20, 14:18
Thanks for the reply, but it's not really addressing the question for a newbie. I totally agree with you, I treat everyone with the same respect regardless of their profession. Anyone who is working to provide for their family, earns my respect.

I like the idea of getting to know his name, and saying Hello, etc. Are you saying just treat the man with respect, and you shouldn't have a problem with your guests (given that they don't cause problems).

Aftet researching the past year on this forum their wasn't really any consistency with how to get girls back to your apartment. Most of the posts of hotels do not allow girls. (I cancelled my hotel once theh told me in writing they charge R200) for guest). Some posts also mentioned that even apartment doorman wouldn't allow "guests in".

I plan to bring guests in, but also understand I will need to be discreet and be pleasant with the gatekeeper aka the doorman.

I appreciate the response.There isn't a hard-line answer to every question. There should be no problem bringing girls up to your apartments. Buildings don't have rules against guests. Brazilians are quite casual about acompanhantes (escorts). If the four of you come home late with four girls, this should not be a problem if you don't make a lot of noise in the lobby, hallways, etc. We have even had a little cocktail parties in our apartments, but again we don't play music loud and talk loud.

As far as tipping the concierge, it's discretionary. If you feel like they are cool and looking after you and the building, use your judgement. When we had our little parties, we would tip them.

As a side note, we are routinely able to get a group of termas girls to come over to our apartment. Our language skills are decent, not great. We always treat the termas girls well. We are also a good time in the termas. Our termas girls would hang with us after the visit to the termas rooms with them. Having said that coordination is tough, one or two girls might decide not to come. If you can find four hot termas girls who are chummy, that helps.

WyattEarp
09-08-20, 14:25
Thanks for the reply, but it's not really addressing the question for a newbie. I totally agree with you, I treat everyone with the same respect regardless of their profession. Anyone who is working to provide for their family, earns my respect.

I like the idea of getting to know his name, and saying Hello, etc. Are you saying just treat the man with respect, and you shouldn't have a problem with your guests (given that they don't cause problems).

Aftet researching the past year on this forum their wasn't really any consistency with how to get girls back to your apartment. Most of the posts of hotels do not allow girls. (I cancelled my hotel once theh told me in writing they charge R200) for guest). Some posts also mentioned that even apartment doorman wouldn't allow "guests in".

I plan to bring guests in, but also understand I will need to be discreet and be pleasant with the gatekeeper aka the doorman.

I appreciate the response.There isn't a hard-line answer to every question. There should be no problem bringing girls up to your apartments. Buildings don't rules against guests. Brazilians are quite casual about acompanhantes (escorts). If the four of you come home late with four girls, this should not be a problem if you don't make a lot of noise in the lobby, hallways, etc. We have even had a little cocktail parties in our apartments, but again we don't play music loud and talk loud.

As far as tipping the concierge, it's discretionary. If you feel like they are cool and looking after you and the building, use your judgement. When we had out little parties, we might tip him.

As a side note, we are routinely able to get a group of termas girls to come over to our apartment. Our language skills are decent, not great. We always treat the termas girls well. We are also a good time in the termas. Our termas girls would hang with us after the visit to the rooms with them. Having said that coordination is tough, one or two girls might decide not to come. If you can find four hot termas girls who are chummy, that helps.

Sperto
09-08-20, 16:53
I plan to bring guests in, but also understand I will need to be discreet and be pleasant with the gatekeeper aka the doorman.
I appreciate the response.
I read some misinformation below regarding allowing guests in apartment. I never had any problem, but I know some buildings do have rules against guests for temporary rentals. The síndico can invent many strange rules, specially if he/she doesn't like gringos in the building.
Also remember, if you or your guests makes a lot of noise you can expect paying a fine.

Exec Talent gave some very good advices below. Get on a friendly basis with the porteiros and specially with the chefe dos porteiros (if the building has one of those). Friendly chats or bringing some extra salgado/pizza to the porteiro works great. I never tried buying friendship by tipping, I guess that's an american habit.

Dick Hertz
09-08-20, 17:57
Will be making my return and last time I was here was about ten years ago doing Help. Traveling is so restrictive now. Will arrive in November so I have some time to get reacquainted be would appreciate any advice. I heard that the pickup bars have move north along the beach from Help location. I can only hope to be able take the trip when the time comes and things get better.

Exec Talent
09-08-20, 18:24
I read some misinformation below regarding allowing guests in apartment. I never had any problem, but I know some buildings do have rules against guests for temporary rentals. The sndico can invent many strange rules, specially if he/she doesn't like gringos in the building.
Also remember, if you or your guests makes a lot of noise you can expect paying a fine.

Exec Talent gave some very good advices below. Get on a friendly basis with the porteiros and specially with the chefe dos porteiros (if the building has one of those). Friendly chats or bringing some extra salgado/pizza to the porteiro works great. I never tried buying friendship by tipping, I guess that's an american habit.Now I could take offense to that statement, but I won't because it truly does represent cultural differences.

I have been out to dinner with American friends in Europe and when they leave a tip with the bill, the server brings it back. In Japan, it would be treated as an insult.

This is because serving is a job in those countries that is paid a wage. In the USA, the server is paid a sub-wage and the rest (usually far in excess of what would be a normal wage elsewhere) is made up of tips. The idea is that it is a reward and not an incentive, but in the end, it becomes a little of both. Give me good service and you will get a good tip.

For those of us who have worked for tips it is seen as a sign of appreciation and that is how I view it. I am making a statement, as an American from a country where tipping is the norm, that I appreciate you, doorman. It should be noted that the doormen do receive a bonus paid by the residents at Christmas time. It is like a tip to recognize them for their service. It does also act as an incentive for the doorman to diligently fulfill his duties. Since I am a temporary resident, I am giving them their Christmas bonus early.

I always get the names of the attendants in the Termas locker rooms and always tip them usually with a kiss on the cheek the same way I greet them when I arrive. Not the reason, but if you do not think these women do not know all the girls and talk with them, you are totally clueless. New to Rio Gringo, that attendant (mom) might be the reason a girl decides to go back to your place with you. When it is only about money, the girls are known for flaking out and not showing up -- they get a lot of such offers. You want them to have a reason to take yours. If you are one of those, I pay them to leave kind of guys, good. You make my life so much easier and more rewarding.

Now about those who have their hands out looking for tips. The question to ask for me is have they done anything for which I want to show appreciation? Most of the time the answer is no and no tip for you.

WyattEarp
09-08-20, 19:34
Exec Talent gave some very good advices below. Get on a friendly basis with the porteiros and specially with the chefe dos porteiros (if the building has one of those). Friendly chats or bringing some extra salgado/pizza to the porteiro works great. I never tried buying friendship by tipping, I guess that's an american habit.I'm not sure "buying friendship" is the way I would describe it. As a short-timer, the porteiros aren't my friends just like a garota de programa isn't my girlfriend. Can things be friendly? Sure.

As far as tips, I don't walk in day one and throw down money. It can make a difference during a stay if I'm are bringing up a lot of women in the later hours. This is especially true if I am part of a group. I want the porteiro on my side if things go down one way or another.

Remember some of us don't have great Portuguese language skills. Perhaps a garota has a strange attitude or there is some confusion. The porteiro might be the one who smoothes things over. By the way, I have had porteiros talk to girls for me on the phone. Of course now with texting and translation apps, that's less critical, but just an example of how they helped me out.

Dave1111
09-08-20, 23:30
Hi Gents,

How are you guys getting into Rio and along with travel insurance. Here in the UK the Government here has put Brazil on a list of countries we can only visit when conducting 'essential travel'. That is the key phrase. We have COVID insurance policies we can buy that will cover us in Brazil for up to 6 months, but if it came to a claim, they will scrutinise the reason you are there to see if it was 'essential travel'. The slightest doubt and they won't pay. They have listed some essential roles but not all. It includes family members visiting someone who is terminally ill, Government employees on state business, Military on State business, essential business fully recorded and documented etc. It would be a nightmare without comprehensive cover as it means no private ward etc, join the rest, and also foot the massive bill yourself at the end, let alone repatriation along with a doctor and nurse on your flight, something that will probably cost at least £100,000 according to insurance companies here.

Are you just taking a risk and hoping you won't get ill with your fingers crossed, or do you have a plan? Is the advice from your Government different and as such does this not effect your health care insurance in Brazil.

Regards.

FlcnHvy
09-09-20, 00:12
Checked out prive on Ulrich. Entered, said 4 girls working for some reason only got to see 3 cause one was in the shower all of a sudden. I chose natia, black, bikini tanned. TIGHT Body + tattooed Eyebrows. Cost was 100 for 30 minutes. She was tight, session was enjoyable, pretty standard, but I wanted to get out of there. We tried anal which she happily accepted, I couldn't get in. She was just too tight. I will head to 583 at some point soon. She is definitely worth the value and a quick bang (I think can be had for 70).

Anyhow, I banged two other randoms, one was Giovana Branca. Nice girl and service but not my type.

I've come to the realization to have sex with top tier talent (which is why I've come to Brazil), you need to pay 200-300+. Maybe I'm wrong, but everything for 100-150 hasn't been what I've come to Brazil for, and I'm fine with that.

Cheers.

Exec Talent
09-09-20, 09:51
Checked out prive on Ulrich. Entered, said 4 girls working for some reason only got to see 3 cause one was in the shower all of a sudden. I chose natia, black, bikini tanned. TIGHT Body + tattooed Eyebrows. Cost was 100 for 30 minutes. She was tight, session was enjoyable, pretty standard, but I wanted to get out of there. We tried anal which she happily accepted, I couldn't get in. She was just too tight. I will head to 583 at some point soon. She is definitely worth the value and a quick bang (I think can be had for 70).

Anyhow, I banged two other randoms, one was Giovana Branca. Nice girl and service but not my type.

I've come to the realization to have sex with top tier talent (which is why I've come to Brazil), you need to pay 200-300+. Maybe I'm wrong, but everything for 100-150 hasn't been what I've come to Brazil for, and I'm fine with that.

Cheers.You might want to plan ahead by checking out some of girls on this site.

https://terapiasonline.com.br/terapeutas

BlacknBlue69
09-09-20, 16:47
I have stayed at the following hotels without issue.

Windsor Excelsior Hotel.

Av. Atlntica, 1800 - Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22021.

Windsor Plaza Hotel.

Av. Princesa Isabel, 263 - Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22011.

Miramar Hotel by Windsor.

Av. Atlntica, 3668 - Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22070.

Windsor Palace Hotel.

Are. Domingos Ferreira, 6 - Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22050.

Hilton Rio de Janeiro Copacabana..I've no idea how you managed at Miramar by Windsor. They would only allow one girl in (checked in) and when you returned with another they did not allow. Not only me that had this issue, I've been there with several friends (last time we stayed we were 5 guys in our own rooms) and we all experienced the same following one night in Centaurus and one in Monte Carlo - 2nd night no girls allowed. Windsor Leme point blank refused anyone in my room. I have stayed at Miramar loads, and in fact have stopped staying there now only due to their inflexibility with visitors.

I stayed at Fairmont last time I was in Rio and had no issue getting girl in, met her in car park and was not accosted by security.

In my experience (all recent and heading again in November for 8 weeks) the below hotels work:

Hilton (charge).

Fairmont.

JW Marriott.

For those reasons I have been booking apartments the past few times I've been and only in hotels for a week or so at the end of my trip, I am doing exactly this when I am there later this year and will stay at Fairmont for the last 8 nights, whilst Hilton is cheaper, at 250 are $ per night for company this can add a significant amount to the bill if you return with more than one girl.

Hotel tip: Book for two people and if you want you can check one girl in FOC. It has been my experience that when you return with another some hotels charge and some don't allow at all.

Combo
09-09-20, 23:49
Checked out prive on Ulrich. Entered, said 4 girls working for some reason only got to see 3 cause one was in the shower all of a sudden. I chose natia, black, bikini tanned. TIGHT Body + tattooed Eyebrows. Cost was 100 for 30 minutes. She was tight, session was enjoyable, pretty standard, but I wanted to get out of there. We tried anal which she happily accepted, I couldn't get in. She was just too tight. I will head to 583 at some point soon. She is definitely worth the value and a quick bang (I think can be had for 70).

Anyhow, I banged two other randoms, one was Giovana Branca. Nice girl and service but not my type.

I've come to the realization to have sex with top tier talent (which is why I've come to Brazil), you need to pay 200-300+. Maybe I'm wrong, but everything for 100-150 hasn't been what I've come to Brazil for, and I'm fine with that.

Cheers.200-300. That's a whopping $37-$57 USD. I think we can all afford that! Although it is fun now and then to hit the low-budget venues.

Mamba69
09-10-20, 02:02
I've no idea how you managed at Miramar by Windsor. They would only allow one girl in (checked in) and when you returned with another they did not allow. Not only me that had this issue, I've been there with several friends (last time we stayed we were 5 guys in our own rooms) and we all experienced the same following one night in Centaurus and one in Monte Carlo - 2nd night no girls allowed. Windsor Leme point blank refused anyone in my room. I have stayed at Miramar loads, and in fact have stopped staying there now only due to their inflexibility with visitors.

I stayed at Fairmont last time I was in Rio and had no issue getting girl in, met her in car park and was not accosted by security.

In my experience (all recent and heading again in November for 8 weeks) the below hotels work:

Hilton (charge)..Thanks for this feedback in addition to all the others throughout all the pages I scrubbed here for clarity on joiner hotel policies and which properties to book to avoid such hassle.

Really want to book a hotel for next month as it seems the way to go for an inaugural Rio visit versus a Copacabana apartment but it still appears to be a coin toss (other than the few top shelf hotels) as to whether your going to be heading up to your room alone.

Not a fan of love hotels and just enjoy the company in my own comfort and surroundings (preferably with a balcony). I miss the ease of Thai guest friendly hotels but got to get some poonannie somewhere.

Are we limited to just booking the 3 in this post without issue or any other properties or workarounds?

Thanks Gentlemen.

Rio Bob
09-10-20, 03:42
Not a fan of love hotels and just enjoy the company in my own comfort and surroundings (preferably with a balcony). I miss the ease of Thai guest friendly hotels but got to get some poonannie somewhere.

Are we limited to just booking the 3 in this post without issue or any other properties or workarounds?

Thanks Gentlemen.Check out photo of balcony in the Pestana hotel, girl friendly.

BlacknBlue69
09-10-20, 09:52
Thanks for this feedback in addition to all the others throughout all the pages I scrubbed here for clarity on joiner hotel policies and which properties to book to avoid such hassle.

Really want to book a hotel for next month as it seems the way to go for an inaugural Rio visit versus a Copacabana apartment but it still appears to be a coin toss (other than the few top shelf hotels) as to whether your going to be heading up to your room alone.

Not a fan of love hotels and just enjoy the company in my own comfort and surroundings (preferably with a balcony). I miss the ease of Thai guest friendly hotels but got to get some poonannie somewhere.

Are we limited to just booking the 3 in this post without issue or any other properties or workarounds?

Thanks Gentlemen.Pestana and Othon Palace are also both girl friendly *I've been told* but as I have never stayed in either property I have no idea whether they are or not. Based on other reports on the thread I would have booked Miramar, but Miramar for me has been one of the most difficult. One of our party even tried to politely tip the security guard / doorman but they were having none of it. I was told by my local friends that The Windsor Group have been having issues with girls so put a blanket ban on them, if they've signed into the room it is fine but otherwise it is a straight no.

AirBnB's work fine and if you search you'll find some with balcony's, mines certainly does for my next stay, I would advise 2nd or 3rd night tipping the doorman and learn the phrase "obrigado por cuidar de mim". (Thank you for looking after me) As a gringo you'll be able to access most of the hotels without being resident, we often drink at the Hilton rooftop, Miramar etc as no one tends to stop you if you know what you are doing, you can even use their pools just take your own towels.

WRT taking girls back, it really is hit-or-miss and I think a lot of it depends on how the girl looks. The girl I had at Fairmont showed up dressed respectably, but most of the girls don't because they simply don't have the money to buy nice clothes.

Like you I am not a fan of love hotels so I'd be more inclined to AirBnB it.

Turgid
09-10-20, 14:27
You might want to plan ahead by checking out some of girls on this site.

https://terapiasonline.com.br/terapeutasMaya looks really my type. Pity she has small boobs. I'd def hit it though. Natural boobs feel nice as do natural bums. If any boots on the ground sessions her, please leave a report.

Exec Talent
09-10-20, 16:26
Rio vets will remember Karla Models (an escort agency) and The Book.

Pictures on their site had blurred faces and you could either pay to see The Book without blurred faces or an escort you had ordered would bring it with her.

Unlike places such as Barcelona, most of the girls will not have their bodies altered in photos. However, their faces may not be as attractive as you had hoped. I usually make appointments with massage site girls. The girls on the massage sites have always been the ones in their photos but not as glamour shot looking. The reason I do this is because if you just show up and request a lineup, you get who is available. The most popular girls might not be available.

Exec Talent
09-10-20, 16:38
Maya looks really my type. Pity she has small boobs. I'd def hit it though. Natural boobs feel nice as do natural bums. If any boots on the ground sessions her, please leave a report.My type is pretty face, nice smile, natural breasts, small to medium firm bubble butt. Brazilians like bigger women with larger butts and legs. Pony to horse asses. So, if you are a guy who likes my type, you might find more of them available to you in Rio than elsewhere because they are not in demand. If you find one you like, hang on to her. She will be glad to have a regular client and not shy about showing her appreciation.

BMo814
09-10-20, 23:34
Planning my first trip to Rio as well in November, in regards to hotel I read here portoboy was girl friendly and confirmed today it is. I had booked a room through booking.com based on the information here and when I emailed them to ask after checking in can my guest be changed and the response was there is no problem with guess being changed. I don't mind having to register them as long as I don't have to pay. I see you all saying pestaña is girl friendly I had originally booked there but too many poor reviews had me choose portoboy, just FYI.

Exec Talent
09-11-20, 00:42
Planning my first trip to Rio as well in November, in regards to hotel I read here portoboy was girl friendly and confirmed today it is. I had booked a room through booking.com based on the information here and when I emailed them to ask after checking in can my guest be changed and the response was there is no problem with guess being changed. I don't mind having to register them as long as I don't have to pay. I see you all saying pestaa is girl friendly I had originally booked there but too many poor reviews had me choose portoboy, just FYI.Checking in Guests can actually be a good thing. If Brazilians are asked, they must show their National ID card to police. This ID card has their photo and fingerprint.

https://rioandlearn.com/brazilian-id-card/

The last thing a girl wants to do is lose it. Because the front desk clerks like you (you did remember to introduce yourself and now know them by name, right? You can ask them to request the girl's ID card and hold it until you give them the word that everything is OK. This also gives them the chance to tell the girl that you are a nice Gringo. Guys with no social skills will tell you all that matters to the girls is money. Yeah, sure. We will go with that.

TravelBug2020
09-11-20, 00:45
You might want to plan ahead by checking out some of girls on this site.

https://terapiasonline.com.br/terapeutasNice site. Is there a way to determine which girl is "full service" or do you need to just send them a message on WA and ask? What's best practice for these massage ladies?

Open for whoever knows best practices. Thanks.

BlacknBlue69
09-11-20, 17:14
Planning my first trip to Rio as well in November, in regards to hotel I read here portoboy was girl friendly and confirmed today it is. I had booked a room through booking.com based on the information here and when I emailed them to ask after checking in can my guest be changed and the response was there is no problem with guess being changed. I don't mind having to register them as long as I don't have to pay. I see you all saying pestaa is girl friendly I had originally booked there but too many poor reviews had me choose portoboy, just FYI.That's good to know as it is closer to Leme, might have a few nights in there myself thanks for the heads-up.

WyattEarp
09-11-20, 19:06
Nice site. Is there a way to determine which girl is "full service" or do you need to just send them a message on WA and ask? What's best practice for these massage ladies?

Open for whoever knows best practices. Thanks.Many of these women look TGTBT. They either don't work there or they only do massage (and if your lucky you might get a HJ).

Exec Talent has a lot of experience. Hopefully he can shed some light on this matter.

The Cane
09-11-20, 19:08
Check out photo of balcony in the Pestana hotel, girl friendly.If you stay at the Pestana, make sure you get one of their top tier rooms. Although the room I had "passed", I was a bit disappointed with the upkeep. The common areas were decent, and as Rio Bob says, the place is girl friendly. It's in a decent Copa location too.

Sperto
09-11-20, 19:55
Many of these women look TGTBT. They either don't work there or they only do massage (and if your lucky you might get a HJ).

Exec Talent has a lot of experience. Hopefully he can shed some light on this matter.
Now you're actually right, WyattEarp. Many of these clinica girls actuallt just include a HJ with the massage. IMO, with all respect to ET. My experience of these clinicas is that the these girls often looks very nice, but most just give massage and a HJ in the basic price. Personally I don't care about massage. If I can't brincar esconder a linguiça, I'm not interested. Still, many of these terapia-girls are very hot and it can be negotiated to f*ck them as well. I like to negotiate, and I'm good at it, but still I don't like to negotiate just because the girls have a nicer website, reception, Buddhas in teh reception, soft music and smell of incenses. The best gems I've had are the newbie gems at the simple privées. Girls that soon realize that they are sitting on goldmines. Nothing better than being their first customer. Playing gently and do the tricks, they always remember you. A hot gem will stay at a simple privê maxium 2 weeks, then she's gone to another place with a different price class.

BMo814
09-11-20, 22:06
Checking in Guests can actually be a good thing. If Brazilians are asked, they must show their National ID card to police. This ID card has their photo and fingerprint.

https://rioandlearn.com/brazilian-id-card/

The last thing a girl wants to do is lose it. Because the front desk clerks like you (you did remember to introduce yourself and now know them by name, right? You can ask them to request the girl's ID card and hold it until you give them the word that everything is OK. This also gives them the chance to tell the girl that you are a nice Gringo. Guys with no social skills will tell you all that matters to the girls is money. Yeah, sure. We will go with that.Haven't been yet but surely will. I know it's a good thing I like they have to register. I'm in the same church as you Exec when I'm traveling I'm always friendly with the staff, always treat them fairly with respect. As you spoke about in an earlier post I tip well when deserved. I respect these people they working hard tryna make a living. I'm not better than them. I'm from the hood I'm not rich I just made a few dollars that allow me to travel but I still work and I don't tolerate people treating me any way they like so I don't treat people that way not even the GPS or prepagos depending where you at.

Vagabundo1
09-11-20, 22:50
Fuckamefdig and I took an uber into Centro. He now lives at posto 6 in barra which is 300 meters from transamerica.

We took the 64 are uber to uruguiana. We walked across Vargas to a club which shall go unnamed per his request. IT is a local club and is pretty awesome, glad we checked it out. It is a local club. Dozens of girls, best one a 8 or 9. Grabbing ass and maybe a beer is what these girls have to look forward to.

We walked past MV30, and went to Club 31.

We met two hot girls right off the bat.

He slipped his chosen girl some cash, which is an interesting and good move.

We promised we would come back.

We left and went back across Vargas to 502. I got several numbers there. I also got the numbers at 31. Vivien a real porn star is at 502. She is like 5'11' maybe even 6 foot. She is a blonde, and has huge tattoos across her lower back. I wouldn't throw her out of bed, but she's too much woman for me.

There was Agatha, a thin spinner negra, one kid, lives in sao goncalo.

But we left for the younger, hotter, top top shelf girls at Club 31.

We pulled the trigger, and went up stairs. I didn't establish that bare back blow job (rookie mistake could be avoided just by re-reading and applying Bubba Boy's Guide). So, she finally blew me bareback, and we did the hour. It was nothing to write home about, so I won't. My wingman had a good session though. I actually was sucking face with another girl by the time my wingman made it back downstairs. This woman from Campo grande was horny. It was good old fashioned romantic fun.

My wingman was happy. I was as well, as I got laid for 200 r all in.

Monger On fellas.

I love "the darkside".

Walking past the garbage trucks on the way in or out of a working girl house always brings to mind these immortal words of Mark Knopfler.

All the late night bargains have been struck.

Between the satin beaus and their belles.

Prehistoric garbage trucks.

Have the city to themselves.

Echoes roars dinosaurs.

They're all doing the monster mash.

And most of the taxis, most of the working girls.

Are only taking calls for cash.

I don't know how it happened.

It all took place so quick.

But all I can do is hand it to you.

And your latest trick.

Well now my door was standing open.

Security were laid back and lax.

But it was only my heart that got broken.

You must have had a pass key made out of wax.

You played robbery with insolence.

And I played the blues in twelve bars down Lover's Lane.

And you never did have the intelligence to use.

The twelve keys hanging off from my chain.

I don't know how it happened.

It all took place so.

Rio Bob
09-12-20, 01:53
If you stay at the Pestana, make sure you get one of their top tier rooms. Although the room I had "passed", I was a bit disappointed with the upkeep. The common areas were decent, and as Rio Bob says, the place is girl friendly. It's in a decent Copa location too.That's correct you need to book the ocean front suite. Currently this suite is being offered at an incredible price due to low demand. Check out my 2018 trip video, it has numerous shots inside the room and on the balcony, I highly recommend it.

https://youtu.be/IakQaj5CNwo

Xpartan
09-12-20, 07:55
Now I could take offense to that statement, but I won't because it truly does represent cultural differences.

I have been out to dinner with American friends in Europe and when they leave a tip with the bill, the server brings it back. In Japan, it would be treated as an insult.

This is because serving is a job in those countries that is paid a wage. In the USA, the server is paid a sub-wage and the rest (usually far in excess of what would be a normal wage elsewhere) is made up of tips. The idea is that it is a reward and not an incentive, but in the end, it becomes a little of both. Give me good service and you will get a good tip.Tipping is one of these hot topics that can hijack any thread, but still my $0. 02 in my experience all over the world is that tips are universally appreciated. They might not be as fixated on tips as American service workers due to livable wages, but in my experience they do expect tips. In Europe, Asia, South America -- everywhere I've been to.

Even in Japan, where, I agree, you shouldn't tip normally, it's not universally frown upon. I remember finding a free guide to show me around a park in Tokyo (the name of the park escapes me now). He wasn't just some guy, he worked for some kind of a historical society, and when I arrived I was the only guest. Regardless, he took me on a personal tour, spent the next 2 hours with me, and at the end, I just had to ask him if it would be OK if I offered him a tip. And he said, sure, no problem. So, even in Japan.

Back to the topic. I don't tip doormen, but I treat them casually with some food and beer. My Portuguese and Spanish are not good enough to have a sensible conversation, but these little giveaways seem to help them remember me.

Nounce
09-12-20, 10:50
Tipping is one of these hot topics that can hijack any thread, but still my $0. 02 in my experience all over the world is that tips are universally appreciated. They might not be as fixated on tips as American service workers due to livable wages, but in my experience they do expect tips. In Europe, Asia, South America -- everywhere I've been to.

Even in Japan, where, I agree, you shouldn't tip normally, it's not universally frown upon. I remember finding a free guide to show me around a park in Tokyo (the name of the park escapes me now). He wasn't just some guy, he worked for some kind of a historical society, and when I arrived I was the only guest. Regardless, he took me on a personal tour, spent the next 2 hours with me, and at the end, I just had to ask him if it would be OK if I offered him a tip. And he said, sure, no problem. So, even in Japan.

Back to the topic. I don't tip doormen, but I treat them casually with some food and beer. My Portuguese and Spanish are not good enough to have a sensible conversation, but these little giveaways seem to help them remember me.If you go to MPs in Bangkok that Asians or Japaneses frequent. You can tip but they don't expect it and it does not affect service. Yesterday I went to a MP I never visited before. The lady assigned to me gave me an unexpected hand job at the end without asking me. There was a sign in the room says "no tipping" so I did not tip and the lady did not seem to expect it either. Tipping is an imported custom in many Asian countries. Locals simply don't tip.

Turgid
09-12-20, 14:00
Tipping is one of these hot topics that can hijack any thread, but still my $0. 02 in my experience all over the world is that tips are universally appreciated. They might not be as fixated on tips as American service workers due to livable wages, but in my experience they do expect tips. In Europe, Asia, South America -- everywhere I've been to.

Even in Japan, where, I agree, you shouldn't tip normally, it's not universally frown upon. I remember finding a free guide to show me around a park in Tokyo (the name of the park escapes me now). He wasn't just some guy, he worked for some kind of a historical society, and when I arrived I was the only guest. Regardless, he took me on a personal tour, spent the next 2 hours with me, and at the end, I just had to ask him if it would be OK if I offered him a tip. And he said, sure, no problem. So, even in Japan.

Back to the topic. I don't tip doormen, but I treat them casually with some food and beer. My Portuguese and Spanish are not good enough to have a sensible conversation, but these little giveaways seem to help them remember me.Yesterday an escort came to my place (not in Brazil as I am still trapped here). I had actually set aside $400 in an envelope to pay the escort I booked originally. However, the manager called me and said she could not make it and asked if I would accept another girl who I had had before and was worth $300. I agreed and she came and we did the deed. When I gave her the envelope she took it and just before exiting checked the contents and handed me a $100 bill. I was surprised and immediately realized my mistake. I kept the money but made a mental note that I would definitely repeat with her soon just for her doing that.

TjBrazil
09-13-20, 00:54
What's up fellow mongers. Haven't been on here in a while. My last trip to Brazil was I think 2011, so I'm curious on a few things: are the termas back open since the virus hit, or is it still on lockdown. I see the exchange rate is insane, so I'm thinking of going back, but I want to know if it's worth it since the virus.

Last time I went, there was no tinder or seeking arrangement. Can someone experienced comment on those two avenues to meet pros or semi pros. Has the game moved to those platforms since the virus.

Also, I don't care about privates, and searching for a needle in a haystack. I want to stick to the tried and true places. Also, I'm older (almost 50) and wealthier now. I can only bust one nut every 2 or 3 days on a mongering trip, and money is no object at this point, so I'm really looking for girls I can spend the whole evening with instead of just a hour or 2. What's the best Avenue for my situation now. As usual, I only like them 18 to 25. That hasn't changed since I started this crazy lifestyle 20 years ago. My body has definitely slowed down and I just can't do 3 girls in a day anymore.

Rio Bob
09-13-20, 19:30
Also, I don't care about privates, and searching for a needle in a haystack. I want to stick to the tried and true places. Also, I'm older (almost 50) and wealthier now. I can only bust one nut every 2 or 3 days on a mongering trip, and money is no object at this point, so I'm really looking for girls I can spend the whole evening with instead of just a hour or 2. What's the best Avenue for my situation now. As usual, I only like them 18 to 25. That hasn't changed since I started this crazy lifestyle 20 years ago. My body has definitely slowed down and I just can't do 3 girls in a day anymore.I'm older than you and I still enjoy my times in Rio and can't wait to get back. These days I like to spend the day hanging out at the pool or beach. At night I also like to have company for dinner and drinks then go back to my place and have some real fun. I usually meet these freelancers in various places like Dolce Vita which has a late night crowd with nice young girls who if they like you and are treated well would definitely hang out with you. Also through the years I've always found freelance escorts are just as willing like from sites like hotside and barra vip and of course good old Mabs if you can find something suitable. Last time in Rio I met a very nice 20 year old who came to hang out with me at the pool then dinner then a great session, it's the way I like to do it too.

Turgid
09-14-20, 14:12
I'm older than you and I still enjoy my times in Rio and can't wait to get back. These days I like to spend the day hanging out at the pool or beach. At night I also like to have company for dinner and drinks then go back to my place and have some real fun. I usually meet these freelancers in various places like Dolce Vita which has a late night crowd with nice young girls who if they like you and are treated well would definitely hang out with you. Also through the years I've always found freelance escorts are just as willing like from sites like hotside and barra vip and of course good old Mabs if you can find something suitable. Last time in Rio I met a very nice 20 year old who came to hang out with me at the pool then dinner then a great session, it's the way I like to do it too.I can dig that. The older I get the more important genuine GFE becomes for me.

FlcnHvy
09-15-20, 20:05
I've gotten into some early connection with 2-3 semipros. Two of them are pretty stunning. #1 didn't want really want money from me and I didn't pay her our 2nd date. She was into nice things, good times, travel. Same with #2, although I get a sense of needing to provide for #2 more (also #1). I am fine with it, but I want to avoid any unnecessary traps and keep my heads on the ground.

My pov is, they are literally both gorgeous. I am stunned at how beautiful Brazilian women can be. #1 is very unique, speaks English very well, grew up in America part her life. Loves to party, we had an amazing time for two nights taking happy pills and we are again loosely planning to meet Thursday.

#2 is very cute, she is an actual Brazilian who speaks English. I've never had this type of Brazilian, but it's like she's white but I'm confused because there is something beautiful mixed in her.

Anyhow, any advice and foresight on these type of 'sugar' relationships is appreciated!

Vagabundo1
09-17-20, 21:49
So, Midori has quit weed. She has started taking classes for farmacia. Vagabundo is supportive of this. This actually makes life better for Vagabundo too. It does mean maybe a little less sex. MIDORI comes over at 21 h00 or later, and we fuck, only 15 minutes, which is not much. She is giving some massages, despite her long nails. Vagabundo pays 40 r for the uber. Vagabundo gets uber eats -- all carne, too fatty, and most of it goes un eaten.

But it's good all in all, and we sleep well, and un drugged and clear headed for her classes the next morning, which she takes remotely, which is how the kids roll these days.

After class ends, which is after all in bed, we bang again, to some good nia nacci anal. We have a uber eats breakfast.

I uber her over to Zona Norte and then I take the same uber to largo do machado for a real massage at JuPanteras, which of course comes first with a half hour of good hard sex with the masseuse. It was 160 plus a tip. Good time. Good deep tissue massage.

Uber back to Barra Transamerica. The talent here is unreal. Super hot loira twins with gorgeous bunda boas just kinda appear in the elevator on the way down, which is where Vagabundo shops, or at the bar downstairs, where the pros come and go along with their clients, or down the street at Av Gastao Senges 185, the social hub where there is a variety of dine outside spots, ranging from 15 r for a basic meal, but good to 50 r+ for sushi.

So back at the love hotel that is is transamerica, Vagabundo gets in a little gym and swim in the slightly longer 25 m pool. It's a good spot. It may require a little more experience, but I don't really think so.

Monger on fellas.

TravelBug2020
09-18-20, 00:28
So, Midori has quit weed. She has started taking classes for farmacia. Vagabundo is supportive of this. This actually makes life better for Vagabundo too. It does mean maybe a little less sex. MIDORI comes over at 21 h00 or later, and we fuck, only 15 minutes, which is not much. She is giving some massages, despite her long nails. Vagabundo pays 40 r for the uber. Vagabundo gets uber eats -- all carne, too fatty, and most of it goes un eaten.

But it's good all in all, and we sleep well, and un drugged and clear headed for her classes the next morning, which she takes remotely, which is how the kids roll these days.

After class ends, which is after all in bed, we bang again, to some good nia nacci anal. We have a uber eats breakfast..Thanks for posting live updates. My 1st trip is 30 days away! And I'm getting pretty excited.

Would you mind helping me out with termas. Which ones should I go to. Also what is typical price for entrance, drinks for a few hours, lady and drink. Am I looking at 800 to 1000? Since we are a group of 4 newbies I know the guys want to hit the popular ones MC and Cent. But you mentioned 65. So I definitely want to hit those too.

Game plan is beach during day. Maybe a massage joint, prive or escort. And evening at terma. Think I'm going to budget $300 USD a day. Sure some days over and some under. Will hit a few tourist spots too.

Really hoping those escort sites are legit. Some 10's on there with verified photos and TDs.

Xpartan
09-18-20, 07:33
So, Midori has quit weed. She has started taking classes for farmacia. Vagabundo is supportive of this. This actually makes life better for Vagabundo too. It does mean maybe a little less sex. MIDORI comes over at 21 h00 or later, and we fuck, only 15 minutes, which is not much. She is giving some massages, despite her long nails. Vagabundo pays 40 r for the uber. Vagabundo gets uber eats -- all carne, too fatty, and most of it goes un eaten.

But it's good all in all, and we sleep well, and un drugged and clear headed for her classes the next morning, which she takes remotely, which is how the kids roll these days.

After class ends, which is after all in bed, we bang again, to some good nia nacci anal. We have a uber eats breakfast.

I uber her over to Zona Norte and then I take the same uber to largo do machado for a real massage at JuPanteras, which of course comes first with a half hour of good hard sex with the masseuse. It was 160 plus a tip. Good time. Good deep tissue massage.

Uber back to Barra Transamerica. The talent here is unreal. Super hot loira twins with gorgeous bunda boas just kinda appear in the elevator on the way down, which is where Vagabundo shops, or at the bar downstairs, where the pros come and go along with their clients, or down the street at Av Gastao Senges 185, the social hub where there is a variety of dine outside spots, ranging from 15 r for a basic meal, but good to 50 r+ for sushi.

So back at the love hotel that is is transamerica, Vagabundo gets in a little gym and swim in the slightly longer 25 m pool. It's a good spot. It may require a little more experience, but I don't really think so.

Monger on fellas.Stayed at Sheraton Leblon once and loved everything other than having to spend a good hour in commute sometimes. Another time in the Centro and loved them cheap prives but missed the beaches and ocean views. After 15 or so trips to Rio I wouldn't consider anything but Copa or Ipa, that's until I stumbled upon your inspirational musings that make me wonder if I must try Barra next time whenever I'm back.

Mr Enternational
09-18-20, 09:55
I've gotten into some early connection with 2-3 semipros.

Anyhow, any advice and foresight on these type of 'sugar' relationships is appreciated!I guess first you would want to know that they are garotas and not chicas. Chicas are in Columbia.

Combo
09-18-20, 13:49
I guess first you would want to know that they are garotas and not chicas. Chicas are in Columbia.To be fair, they're all chicas, whether from the US, S America, or Asia.

The Cane
09-18-20, 13:58
To be fair, they're all chicas, whether from the US, S America, or Asia.Yeah, if a Spanish-speaking person goes to Brazil and then tells his friends about the chicks there, he's going to use "chica" and not "garota". Just like I say "girl" or a Thai guy says "pooying". No need for such petty criticisms. Say "garota" when talking to a Brazilian. Otherwise, who really cares?

GValenz
09-18-20, 15:24
To be fair, they're all chicas, whether from the US, S America, or Asia.When you are in a country as a visitor it's best to use the language of that country when you can. Thus Brasil = Portuguese. Garota!

Vagabundo1
09-18-20, 17:52
Here is a picture from my balcony.

Compare this with the balcony view of Copacobana from the Pestana.

The difference is this: In Copa, if you go in the water to swim, especially if the temperature is above about 30 degrees, you can tell you are swimming in the public cesspool of Rio for 500 years of civiilization.

In the beach at my apartment hotel, the water is clean / limpio.

It makes a difference to me.

The cost is 2200 r (reais) or less than 500 US Dollars per month.

PM me for the number of my landlord if you want it.

Pax.


Stayed at Sheraton Leblon once and loved everything other than having to spend a good hour in commute sometimes. Another time in the Centro and loved them cheap prives but missed the beaches and ocean views. After 15 or so trips to Rio I wouldn't consider anything but Copa or Ipa, that's until I stumbled upon your inspirational musings that make me wonder if I must try Barra next time whenever I'm back.

Vagabundo1
09-18-20, 17:55
Transamerica view in Barra for comparison.

Difference is water is clean.

Makes a difference on hot days if you swim and don't want to swim in a toilet.


Check out photo of balcony in the Pestana hotel, girl friendly.

GValenz
09-18-20, 18:31
When you are in a country as a visitor it's best to use the language of that country when you can. Thus Brasil = Portuguese.

BeenBob
09-18-20, 19:09
Transamerica view in Barra for comparison.

Difference is water is clean.

Makes a difference on hot days if you swim and don't want to swim in a toilet.Good stuff.

Bookie77
09-18-20, 21:11
I was planning to move in Brasil permanently but I am a bit scared of covid. I am not too old I am 43 yo and I really can't decide whether is a smart move to move there now or not. Another thing that concerns me is whether I should move in SP or RJ. I am not going to Brasil for work just to stay there because I have a steady income. What would you do? Would you move to Brasil right now or not? Which city you think is better SP or RJ? Even if I spent a couple of months to SP and a couple of months to RJ I am pretty sure that it would be a tough call to decide which is the best city to stay and spend my life.

Sperto
09-18-20, 22:27
When you are in a country as a visitor it's best to use the language of that country when you can. Thus Brasil = Portuguese. Garota!Oi, garota! The brazilians are multilingual, of course there are no need to speak their language. My god. All of the mongering world is closed, except Brazil. It will be interesting to read the reports when all the ********* go to Brazil.

GValenz
09-18-20, 22:56
Oi, garota! The brazilians are multilingual, of course there are no need to speak their language. My god. All of the mongering world is closed, except Brazil. It will be interesting to read the reports when all the ********* go to Brazil.I hope you never venture outside the tourist safe havens and have to ask a local for help. You should know by now the importance of learning a few lines of Portuguese it is well appreciated by locals.

Vagabundo1
09-19-20, 01:46
Knopfler and Zepplin and the Stones may be the anthems for we few, we mongering swinging dicks.

Midori canceled tonight, which is all well and good.

Out here in Barra, it feels at times like Telegraph Road (not lease because the Wi-Fi sucks, but I am working on getting a login for the #NET-Claro network for a mere 100 r a month).

I may go ramble on at the usual haunts, or call in my back up plans. We shall see.

A long time ago came a man on a track.

Walking thirty miles with a sack on his back.

And he put down his load.

Where he thought it was the best.

He made a home in the wilderness.

He built a cabin and a winter store.

And he plowed up the ground by the cold lake shore.

And the other travelers came walking down the track.

And they never went further, no.

They never went back.

Then came the churches, then came the schools.

Then came the lawyers, and then came the rules.

Then came the trains and the trucks with their loads.

And the dirty old track was the telegraph road.

Then came the mines, then came the ore.

Then there was the hard times, then there was a war.

Telegraph sang a song about the world outside.

Telegraph road got so deep and so wide.

Like a rolling river.

And my radio says tonight it's going to freeze.

People driving home from the factories.

There's six lanes of traffic.

Three lanes moving slow.

I used to like to go to work, but they shut it down.

I've got a right to go to work.

But there's no work here to be found.

Yes, and they say we're going to have to pay what's owed.

We're going to have to reap.

From some seed that's been sowed.

And the birds up on the wires and the telegraph poles.

They can always fly away from this rain and this cold.

You can hear them singing out their telegraph code.

All the way down the telegraph road.

You know, I'd sooner forget.

But I remember those nights.

When life was just a bet on a race.

Between the lights.

You had your head on my shoulder.

You had your hand in my hair.

Now you act a little colder.

Like you don't seem to care.

But believe in me, baby, and I'll take you away.

From out of this darkness and into the day.

From these rivers of headlights, these rivers of rain.

From the anger that lives on the streets with these names.

Cause I've run every red light on memory lane.

I've seen desperation explode into flames.

And I don't want to see it again.

From all of these signs saying, "sorry, but we're closed".

All the way.

Down the telegraph road.


Good stuff.

Xpartan
09-19-20, 02:48
But my travel time is very limited, so monthly rates won't work for me. Regardless, I'm sure I'll be able to find a suitable vacation rental in Barra. Time to try some new things, LOL.


Here is a picture from my balcony.

Compare this with the balcony view of Copacobana from the Pestana.

The difference is this: In Copa, if you go in the water to swim, especially if the temperature is above about 30 degrees, you can tell you are swimming in the public cesspool of Rio for 500 years of civiilization.

In the beach at my apartment hotel, the water is clean / limpio.

It makes a difference to me.

The cost is 2200 r (reais) or less than 500 US Dollars per month.

PM me for the number of my landlord if you want it.

Pax.

ErrlmcDabbed
09-19-20, 05:30
Hey boys,

I've lurked here on and off for a while but just moved to Rio this week so thought ID finally make an account. Love the info spread around here. I'm living with family here so I can't host but Ill eventually hit some termas and clinicas and make sure to report back what I find. I'm a long time fan of Copa 583 with it traditionally being so clean and having showers in each room so will likely head there first. Thanks for having me, and looking forward to contributing.

PussyRiot
09-19-20, 13:50
Hey boys,

I've lurked here on and off for a while but just moved to Rio this week so thought ID finally make an account. Love the info spread around here. I'm living with family here so I can't host but Ill eventually hit some termas and clinicas and make sure to report back what I find. I'm a long time fan of Copa 583 with it traditionally being so clean and having showers in each room so will likely head there first. Thanks for having me, and looking forward to contributing.Welcome to the board and please feel free to share some intel.

Assume you are Brazilian and excellent English BTW.

WyattEarp
09-19-20, 15:29
I was planning to move in Brasil permanently but I am a bit scared of covid. I am not too old I am 43 yo and I really can't decide whether is a smart move to move there now or not. Another thing that concerns me is whether I should move in SP or RJ. I am not going to Brasil for work just to stay there because I have a steady income. What would you do? Would you move to Brasil right now or not? Which city you think is better SP or RJ? Even if I spent a couple of months to SP and a couple of months to RJ I am pretty sure that it would be a tough call to decide which is the best city to stay and spend my life.Most importantly, if you spent a couple of months in SP and then a couple months in RJ, you would likely decide which one was best for you. They are very, very different cities.

Secondly, the Sao Paulo thread (and sometimes here) always has extensive discussions with new travelers of where to spend more time. I believe this was discussed in detail just in the last month on the SP thread. The basic comparisons would mostly apply to new residents as well.

Briefly without regurgitating every comparison, Rio is a world class tourist destination with many beaches and surrounded by tropical mountains and greenery. Sao Paulo is a concrete jungle better for mongering. My opinion is that a resident in Rio would find many local mongering options beyond the usual locations. You can guess where I think you should live. I don't think I would live in Sao Paulo unless a job took me there. Flying to the other city is also cheap and quick.

Note: Barra (in Rio) is a great place to live for a full-time resident. You might be thinking more about neighborhoods not just cities. Do you want to be around the tourist havens of Copa and Ipanema? Do you want to be near the subway? Lots to think about.

WyattEarp
09-19-20, 15:34
But my travel time is very limited, so monthly rates won't work for me. Regardless, I'm sure I'll be able to find a suitable vacation rental in Barra. Time to try some new things, LOL.How long are you going to be in Rio? Are you sure you want to spend the time and cost on transportation getting from Barra to the rest of the city?

Combo
09-19-20, 16:07
Most importantly, if you spent a couple of months in SP and then a couple months in RJ, you would likely decide which one was best for you. They are very, very different cities.

Secondly, the Sao Paulo thread (and sometimes here) always has extensive discussions with new travelers of where to spend more time. I believe this was discussed in detail just in the last month on the SP thread. The basic comparisons would mostly apply to new residents as well.

Briefly without regurgitating every comparison, Rio is a world class tourist destination with many beaches and surrounded by tropical mountains and greenery. Sao Paulo is a concrete jungle better for mongering. My opinion is that a resident in Rio would find many local mongering options beyond the usual locations. You can guess where I think you should live. I don't think I would live in Sao Paulo unless a job took me there. Flying to the other city is also cheap and quick.

Note: Barra (in Rio) is a great place to live for a full-time resident. You might be thinking more about neighborhoods not just cities. Do you want to be around the tourist havens of Copa and Ipanema? Do you want to be near the subway? Lots to think about.Good description. Sao Paulo is like New York in South America. If you like New York, especially Manhattan, you'll like Sao Paulo. If the level of activity and congestion in New York drives you nuts, Sao Paulo will do the same.

ErrlmcDabbed
09-19-20, 16:17
Welcome to the board and please feel free to share some intel.

Assume you are Brazilian and excellent English BTW.Haha I have dual citizenship with US and Brazil, American mom and Brazilian dad, but have lived in US most of my life. Fluent in both English and Portuguese, but many more errors in my Portuguese.

Exec Talent
09-19-20, 18:21
I hope you never venture outside the tourist safe havens and have to ask a local for help. You should know by now the importance of learning a few lines of Portuguese it is well appreciated by locals.Looking forward to more of your valuable insights.

BUT, before you respond to another member you might want to see how many posts they have (Sperto has over 3500) and you might want to review a few of their previous posts.

Sperto has visited all the states of Brazil and has been making extremely valuable contributions to this forum for years. He is fluent in Portuguese, English and other languages. His post was meant as a joke.

Ha ha ha (rsrsrs kkkk in Portuguese).

Bookie77
09-19-20, 22:08
Most importantly, if you spent a couple of months in SP and then a couple months in RJ, you would likely decide which one was best for you. They are very, very different cities.

Secondly, the Sao Paulo thread (and sometimes here) always has extensive discussions with new travelers of where to spend more time. I believe this was discussed in detail just in the last month on the SP thread. The basic comparisons would mostly apply to new residents as well.

Briefly without regurgitating every comparison, Rio is a world class tourist destination with many beaches and surrounded by tropical mountains and greenery. Sao Paulo is a concrete jungle better for mongering. My opinion is that a resident in Rio would find many local mongering options beyond the usual locations. You can guess where I think you should live. I don't think I would live in Sao Paulo unless a job took me there. Flying to the other city is also cheap and quick.

Note: Barra (in Rio) is a great place to live for a full-time resident. You might be thinking more about neighborhoods not just cities. Do you want to be around the tourist havens of Copa and Ipanema? Do you want to be near the subway? Lots to think about.Thanks for the info.

Barra the Tijuca that's the place I would like to live in RJ. In SP I think Jardim Europa.

TravelBug2020
09-20-20, 06:32
So my AIRBNB host cancelled, so we just decided to get a hotel. Thanks to Rio Bob, I decided to get the ocean view room he suggested. Just over $100 a night.

The reviews on TripAdvisor are so bad though.

Is Pestena really Girl Friendly? That is the main reason I selected the hotel, that and the great location and view.

Can anyone confirm or deny. I also saw in the forum from a search that Porto bay was GF too?

Any confirmations. Tminus 33 days.

Xpartan
09-20-20, 08:18
How long are you going to be in Rio? Are you sure you want to spend the time and cost on transportation getting from Barra to the rest of the city?But would I actually need to get anywhere from Barra? I might miss Copacabana a little, but from Vagabundo1 postings, it seems that Barra can be self-sufficient in terms of mongering, food options and the beach. I think I've visited all normal tourists sites during my many trips to Rio, and besides, there is now Metro station in Barrra from what I understand. I've almost always stayed in Copacabana or Ipanema during my visits, but I'm tempted to give Barra a try.

ChosenWun
09-20-20, 14:33
Hey guys,

I am in Rio for a couple of weeks and bombing in all the girls. Every one I find is a horrible experience and a waste of money. What am I doing wrong? How do I get a few good ones.