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Vagabundo1
03-02-21, 03:14
Leblons great.

Black girls will not feel welcome there.

On the metro (aterro.) Walking distance to boteco Belmonte is prime. The see suite of the biggest corporations live there as do their kids.

And their diplomats.

Now with metro going to jardim oceanico mongers and the girls at perola negra can get out to barra as easily as to uruguiana metro.

If bubba boys guide were to be updated the first step would be the metro map.

Professionals study logistics, amateurs study sex.


What about Leblon? I never seriously considered staying there before because I thought it would be boring. But, there appears to be more going on there than I thought. All I know is that I'm tired of Copa, and won't be staying there the next time. Barra is out because it's too far from most places I will want to go to. Thinking Ipa, Leblon, or Botafogo.

https://youtu.be/GNmYfHpKzyw

Vagabundo1
03-02-21, 03:29
In leblon rua dias ferrara is where I stayed in 2017.

It is as blue blood and exclusive as you can find and safe.

Leblon is not the most exclusive hood.

Gavea nearby is.

The king and trekking near gavea have gated Compounds where cloistered math geniuses and diplomats and executives kids learn English and French and German.


What about Leblon? I never seriously considered staying there before because I thought it would be boring. But, there appears to be more going on there than I thought. All I know is that I'm tired of Copa, and won't be staying there the next time. Barra is out because it's too far from most places I will want to go to. Thinking Ipa, Leblon, or Botafogo.

https://youtu.be/GNmYfHpKzyw

Xpartan
03-02-21, 08:03
I thought this can be a great resource. It lists a few regions of Brazil including Rio. I was surprised to find 2 Ipanema beaches currently not suitable for swimming, but this is apparently changing all the time. Might be worth to check regularly.

http://praialimpa.net/

Pope John
03-02-21, 09:02
For example, in one of your cut and pastes, you included L'uomo as a major termas in Copacabana. All of us vets know that termas has been closed for years!Shedding a tear for L'uomo, my very first Rio terma, and sentimental favorite. The first one you never forget. I discovered it when stuck in Rio in 2001, waiting for flights to US to resume.

The Cane
03-02-21, 17:02
Leblon's great. Black girls will not feel welcome there. If bubba boys guide were to be updated the first step would be the metro map. Professionals study logistics, amateurs study sex.I go with the brancas and the morenas, so no problem there. And you got that right about getting the logistics down. The Rio metro today:

https://www.metrorio.com.br/

The Cane
03-02-21, 17:30
Shedding a tear for L'uomo, my very first Rio terma, and sentimental favorite. The first one you never forget. I discovered it when stuck in Rio in 2001, waiting for flights to US to resume.I miss L'uomo too. It was one of my favorites, and I had some absolutely memorable sessions there. I especially loved to attend L'uomo on a Sunday afternoon. It was after my sessions with the beautiful, strawberry blonde Arianne that I began to re-assess what was most important in life LOL! And my anal sex sessions with pretty, blonde Natasha with her braces were the absolute best I have ever had in my entire life! Sigh! I miss L'uomo.

The Cane
03-02-21, 18:09
I thoroughly enjoyed her branca anus at L'uomo.

RysZardo
03-02-21, 20:04
Hi guys,

Today I the like to write about https://rjmassagem.com.br/en/massages/tantric/. This shit is so bad that it s even funny. My amigo went there few days ago and we still laugh from it. He paid 220 reals for tantra massage. Massagist came in full clothes and with mask. Massage was a joke, some light touching and that s it. He expected at least nice finish. Well he was wrong. Lady put on a glove! And gave him HJ. It was a normal rubber glove! Haha. So yea boys don't go there if you don't have some rubber fetish.

I ordered one lady from Barra vips. It cost me 400 real, she came to my place and asked for 20 real more for taxi. I had good fun, her attitude was good, we had good chemistry, I noticed that "chemistry" with working girls in Rio is on really high level in compare to pros in Europe or even Asia (Thailand / Bali). She stayed in my place about 90 minutes and she would stay longer if I didn't ask her to go because I had appointment with my amigo in town. Bad thing is that her pictures were photoshoped a lot, I would score her body 9/10 on pictures and in reality it was 5/10 maybe 6/10. I also went once to Mabs and paid 250 real for 1 h. The problem is that I paid additional 100 real for disgusting motel nearby. I didn't want to take her to my airbnb apartment because doorman was horrible and I m sure he would have some problem. Fortunately I changed that place and next time I'll take lady home. I think it s so far the best option, probably I could go down with price to 200 because she accepted my offer immediately (at the beginning she said 300 real).

Oh I was also in 4 x4 it s also good option 270 real for 30 minutes, but sex there is more mechanic. Girls are really pretty and the most important thing is to take some time to choose a lady. I m going to try dolce vita disco now, it might be good like places in Asia.

Regards.

JohnnyWalker55
03-02-21, 20:42
Going to be in Rio for a month soon, I'm a degenerate and don't like more than 150/ HR hence ill be hitting up vm and prives. Thanks to Sperto, pokeris, mr ent, wyatt, exito, vagabundo for all the posts. Took until page 230 to hit some real prive reports for the deal hunters LOL.

Question: do you need the yellow fever vaccine to enter the country? So far I see it's recommended, not required, but unsure. AS far as I can tell you just need a PCR 3 days before entry and the attestation form thing. Thanks for the help, Ill be posting reports. Ready to fuck up some carioca bueta.

Rio Bob
03-02-21, 23:08
Question: do you need the yellow fever vaccine to enter the country? So far I see it's recommended, not required, but unsure. AS far as I can tell you just need a PCR 3 days before entry and the attestation form thing. Thanks for the help, Ill be posting reports. Ready to fuck up some carioca bueta.Forget yellow fever, preferably COVID-19 vaccine.

HelloIm
03-04-21, 05:04
Going to be in rio for a month soon, I'm a degenerate and don't like more than 150/ HR hence ill be hitting up vm and prives. Thanks to Sperto, pokeris, mr ent, wyatt, exito, vagabundo for all the posts. Took until page 230 to hit some real prive reports for the deal hunters LOL.

Question: do you need the yellow fever vaccine to enter the country? So far I see it's recommended, not required, but unsure. AS far as I can tell you just need a PCR 3 days before entry and the attestation form thing. Thanks for the help, Ill be posting reports. Ready to fuck up some carioca bueta.Yellow Fever Vaccine?

Pope John
03-04-21, 05:05
I miss L'uomo too. It was one of my favorites, and I had some absolutely memorable sessions there. I especially loved to attend L'uomo on a Sunday afternoon. It was after my sessions with the beautiful, strawberry blonde Arianne that I began to re-assess what was most important in life LOL! And my anal sex sessions with pretty, blonde Natasha with her braces were the absolute best I have ever had in my entire life! Sigh! I miss L'uomo.So many sweet memories of L'uomo. The blonde aerobics teacher from Belem who liked strawberry daiquiris, the rich family girl from Juiz de Fora who came to Rio to be a puta, the sweet gaucha who turned into a jaded alcoholic a year later. I don't remember their names, but I remember their stories. Objectively, it was more fun to go to 4 x 4, but I always made time to stop by L'uomo.

Time for another trip to Rio, soon.

HelloIm
03-04-21, 05:09
Security is getting worse, especially in Copa:

3 weeks ago I was with a ISG member, walking back from Arpoador to COpa p5 for a meal. Along the way, aggressive panhandlers came up to us and put their hands on us, which I hate. I was wearing: Rio Fire Department shorts, Rio FB bought (casa bombeiros) red rash guard shirt, red boonie cover also bought at casa bombeiros. WHen the panhandlers started putting their hands on us, I put on the leather gloves I bought at the Fire Department store. It was for deterrence. Makes the other people out there more attractive victims. My ISG member buddy who was with me said he had been assaulted coming into a favela where he knows some people. Practice very good situational awareness, gents. I see the trends getting worse.

6 weeks ago, a similar thing happened late at night, on a short walk on av nossa Copacabana from posto 5 to 4, roughly, when I was going for an uber by myself after hanging out with a ISG member. Again, I put on my gloves, which are local bought. A bunch of agro pan handlers came up on me, and started following along the street.

This never happens out at Barra posto 6, never. The locals tell me this is the best 'hood in Rio, with strong law enforcement. This is another reason this is the best area to live IMHO.

So, in summary, I highly recommend avoiding copa especially, but also Ipanema, and choosing instead Barra posto 1 - 6, or in Zona Sul, Botafogo or Jardim Botanico. These are upper middle class areas where law enforcement is strong and there are fewer gringo tourists, which you as a traveler want to avoid.

On the discussion of latest intel about which places are open (luomo closed, etc), I welcome all the criticism and input. This is a great source of up to date intel, and it's great to have all the critical eyes to get up to speed. Thanks.Why do you keep talking about the leather gloves?

Pope John
03-04-21, 05:44
USB memory sticks for essential files like your favorite porn downloaded, because the internet sucks everywhere; the exception is a 5 G wi fi, the closest one here at transamerica is the borda e lenha wifi at av gastao senges 185.How's the in-room WiFi at Transamerica? Does it depend on the apartment, or is it a building wide system? Enough bandwidth for a video call would make my life easier in Rio. Does anyone have experience with Claro 5 G cellular or other options?

Vagabundo1
03-04-21, 09:57
Because.

1. No one wants to get punched with them.

2. I wear them when I train boxing because that's what I carry.

3. They are local bought so they look like a firefighter (bombeiro) which adds security.

They are also what utility linemen wear. As kipling said,"don't look too good or act too wise".


Why do you keep talking about the leather gloves?

Sperto
03-04-21, 14:20
New restrictions in Rio. Bars and restaurants will close early. Nightly curfew between 11 PM and 5 AM. Good luck with those restrictions, no way it will work out well.

https://oglobo.globo.com/rio/prefeitura-do-rio-proibe-permanencia-nas-ruas-entre-23h-5h-fecha-comercio-da-orla-limita-horario-de-bares-24908770

Mr Enternational
03-04-21, 15:40
New restrictions in Rio. Bars and restaurants will close early. Nightly curfew between 11 PM and 5 AM. Good luck with those restrictions, no way it will work out well.

https://oglobo.globo.com/rio/prefeitura-do-rio-proibe-permanencia-nas-ruas-entre-23h-5h-fecha-comercio-da-orla-limita-horario-de-bares-24908770Shit. It is only for 1 week. My friend said nobody is going to respect that and they are only doing it for the media. Not really anything going on out there after 2300 anyway, unless you are in the hood at a baile funk. Just saw on the news that the kiosks are not allowed to open.

World Travel 69
03-04-21, 16:42
Sad News:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/brazils-covid-crisis-warning-whole-194006373.html

Balboa
03-04-21, 19:06
Good to be back.

All over Centro yesterday, great time in all the usual spots!

Hit VM at about 9 pm, ran into a known, very chill girl.

Went back to her room with her for an hour just to take a nap actually.

Got recharged.

A little slow at VM but met probably the best looking girl I've ever seen there.

An 18 year old Mineira, moreninha.

Had a few beers and she danced the Funky on my lap, LOL.

The best time I had though, incredibly, was leaving VM at about 2 am with a known taxi driver I've befriended for a while now.

There was an unusual amount of girls working the streets just outside of VM.

I've never stopped or considered one before, however, we made the rounds checking them out.

Then one in particular was so damn cute with a nice bubble butt.

We hit Motel So Cristovao, my taxi guy waited for me.

She looked even better undressed and a great lay.

Very sweet and nice. I was surprised that I met her on the street.

A great beginning!

Mr Enternational
03-04-21, 23:50
Monday night we left 4 X4 and took Uber to Vila Mimosa. I did not know an address, so I just put in Mosaico. 9. 88 reais. I had the driver let us out right at the bridge so my brother could experience the walk and peee on the wall for initiation. There was a parking lot open for business and my brother asked who the hell would be parking there; there is nothing around here. Beats the hell out of me. We turned the corner and I took one last picture.

The place was an old shell of itself. Hardly any chicks and the smell has gotten really worse. In the usual spots I saw definitely 1 and maybe another chick that I would fuck. I asked one chick the price and she said 65 reais.

We walked out of that alley and went across the street looking. Found a new gem of a place that I have not seen before. Silvia 52! This is the best spot in VM. They have cut 55 gallon barrels and made them into chairs. They have big screen TVs and the place is very clean. We went in and ordered 2 caipirinhas. 10 reais each. 3 chicks that were my speed in this place and a couple of others that maybe you guys would like. I asked the best one how much and she said 85 reais for 30 minutes. Of course I talked shit about the price and she said it is not her price, but the price of the bar. I told her she was the best looking thing in VM so she deserves it. I told my brother the prices used to run 1 real per minute in VM. He saw her tan lines and asked if they all go to the beach to get those. Good question. In 20 years I have never thought to ask. So I asked her. She said she lays out on the roof of the building she lives in in Pena to get the tan.

We left there and I saw a banner advertising a salon. Hold up. I recognize the name, but there was a mat covering up the picture. But the hair was still showing. I showed my brother a picture is my phone and told him I thought it was this chick from years ago. That is the only time I had heard a name as such. I approached a guy and asked him about the salon. He said he had know idea, but maybe it is upstairs. We trekked through the building and up the stairs. It appeared to be an abandoned bar (not really the bar, but the upstairs part where they have all the rooms.) There was a big room with maybe six beds in it and a guy that seemed to be taking a break from work was sitting on the floor. Found the salon and knocked on the door, but nobody answered.

Headed back downstairs and the first person I saw was the chick I thought I knew. She was mopping the floor in a downstairs bar. I took my phone out and showed her the picture and said isn't this you? She denied it. In the picture she was in the hallway of the apartment with her tits out looking at pics on the wall, her and another chick. She said that she does not take pictures like that. I zoomed in on the picture and said are you sure this is not you? She said no. I said this is definitely you. Same color hair and all. I told her it was from probably 15 years ago when we took her and some more girls from Vila Mimosa back to Copacabana for the night for a big orgy. (We gave each of them 100 reais by the way.) She said that she has been married for 13 years now so to keep it on the low. She was surprised that I had a picture from way back then in my phone. But I have a folder of the best times in Rio, so that is one of the pics I happen to have in there. I told her it was nice seeing her and we left.

We walked up to Mosaico. There was music and lights, but the guy said they do not open until 8 pm. It was 7:30 then so we left. We continued up the street. I asked my brother if he wanted to take the train or bus back to Copacabana. I have only taken the train once so I never remember where it is. We hung a left. Wait a minute, we are about to come out where we came in. I asked a guy that was passing on a bicycle and holding his infant where Sao Cristavao station was. He doubled back to answer me. He said it was back the other way. So we should have made the right. Nevermind. We went to the bus stop and waited for the 455 or 456 back to Copacabana. It was really slow. There was some guy on the ground close to the bus stop. We could not tell if he was alive or dead. We saw like 4 457 buses pass on the median that we could have taken. Oh well. Finally a 455 came.

Vagabundo1
03-05-21, 00:24
I popped into this spot for old times sake after checking in with MichaelSamuel at the rooftop pool of the JW Marriott, which is recommended, not so much for the pool, but for the view of Copa, and for the top top tier talent girl sitting on the deck chairs.

This was mid day on Tuesday. My wingman had ended his quick tour of RJ and was headed out to SP.

Walking around Copa is not that bad during the day, and I headed back over to Av Nossa Copa, where I had lived during the worst of the pandemic / endemic last year. I made some local friends, none of whom were around.

I ended up there on the corner with Hotel Vanity, where last I had gotten into an uber with the General three or four months before. Another buddy who is a law firm investigator and services clubs like the Irish bar in Lapa was not at his usual spot, and the bar tender had no reports of him, which was not unexpected as he usually has bar tabs outstanding up and down the street.

So I poked my head into the prive at the above address. Priscilla, a 18 year old, who had been my sometime after lunch quickie (10 minutes for 50 reais) was there, so I decided to give her a poke for old times sake. The shortest session on offer was 20 minutes for 80 reais.

I fucked her twice with two quick pops.

She's a 18 year old, on the shorter side, but she gets the job done for this cowboy.

Vagabundo1
03-05-21, 00:50
That's a great report.

I learned mongering in Rio from all the reports of Sperto and others like you.

I would map out the area around vm, and take buses like the 457 from Copa to Norte Shopping and back during the day, and figure out where VM was.

I would stay in Motel Malaga, which is across the street from aconchega carioca.

The local boards like gparena and forumx were alive with the latest intel, in the spirit of Jorge Amado and his novellas.

I am in the phase of suggesting dinner at places near Norte Shopping with a non pro, and this report and others like it provide motivation and intel.

Good job.


Monday night we left 4 X4 and took Uber to Vila Mimosa. I did not know an address, so I just put in Mosaico. 9. 88 reais. I had the driver let us out right at the bridge so my brother could experience the walk and peee on the wall for initiation. There was a parking lot open for business and my brother asked who the hell would be parking there; there is nothing around here. Beats the hell out of me. We turned the corner and I took one last picture.

The place was an old shell of itself. Hardly any chicks and the smell has gotten really worse. In the usual spots I saw definitely 1 and maybe another chick that I would fuck. I asked one chick the price and she said 65 reais.

We walked out of that alley and went across the street looking. Found a new gem of a place that I have not seen before. Silvia 52! This is the best spot in VM. They have cut 55 gallon barrels and made them into chairs. They have big screen TVs and the place is very clean. We went in and ordered 2 caipirinhas. 10 reais each. 3 chicks that were my speed in this place and a couple of others that maybe you guys would like. I asked the best one how much and she said 85 reais for 30 minutes. Of course I talked shit about the price and she said it is not her price, but the price of the bar. I told her she was the best looking thing in VM so she deserves it. I told my brother the prices used to run 1 real per minute in VM. He saw her tan lines and asked if they all go to the beach to get those. Good question. In 20 years I have never thought to ask. So I asked her. She said she lays out on the roof of the building she lives in in Pena to get the tan.

The Cane
03-05-21, 03:06
Monday night we left 4 X4 and took Uber to Vila Mimosa. I did not know an address, so I just put in Mosaico. 9. 88 reais. I had the driver let us out right at the bridge so my brother could experience the walk and peee on the wall for initiation. There was a parking lot open for business and my brother asked who the hell would be parking there; there is nothing around here. Beats the hell out of me. We turned the corner and I took one last picture. We walked up to Mosaico. There was music and lights, but the guy said they do not open until 8 pm. It was 7:30 then so we left.All of my trips to Rio, and I have never been to VM. Every time I see pictures from there I think "flithy". Just can't get myself to pull thee trigger and do it. I did say that I would at least go to Mosaico the next time. But, given your description, I don't know! Eeeww, eewwww, eeewwwwww!

TomJackin
03-05-21, 08:12
All of my trips to Rio, and I have never been to VM. Every time I see pictures from there I think "flithy". Just can't get myself to pull thee trigger and do it. Come on Cane, you have to visit VM at least once in your lifetime; at least for the shock factor. There is something about watching a naked chica getting fucked by two dudes on a pool table; now that's entertainment!


Monday night we left 4 X4 and took Uber to Vila Mimosa. Good report! So, first you take Dad out, and now your brother. Damn, I was born in the wrong family!

HelloIm
03-05-21, 08:42
Monday night we left 4 X4 and took Uber to Vila Mimosa. I did not know an address, so I just put in Mosaico. 9. 88 reais. I had the driver let us out right at the bridge so my brother could experience the walk and peee on the wall for initiation. There was a parking lot open for business and my brother asked who the hell would be parking there; there is nothing around here. Beats the hell out of me. We turned the corner and I took one last picture.

The place was an old shell of itself. Hardly any chicks and the smell has gotten really worse. In the usual spots I saw definitely 1 and maybe another chick that I would fuck. I asked one chick the price and she said 65 reais.

We walked out of that alley and went across the street looking. Found a new gem of a place that I have not seen before. Silvia 52! This is the best spot in VM. They have cut 55 gallon barrels and made them into chairs. They have big screen TVs and the place is very clean. We went in and ordered 2 caipirinhas. 10 reais each. 3 chicks that were my speed in this place and a couple of others that maybe you guys would like. I asked the best one how much and she said 85 reais for 30 minutes. Of course I talked shit about the price and she said it is not her price, but the price of the bar. I told her she was the best looking thing in VM so she deserves it. I told my brother the prices used to run 1 real per minute in VM. He saw her tan lines and asked if they all go to the beach to get those. Good question. In 20 years I have never thought to ask. So I asked her. She said she lays out on the roof of the building she lives in in Pena to get the tan.

We left there and I saw a banner advertising a salon. Hold up. I recognize the name, but there was a mat covering up the picture. But the hair was still showing. I showed my brother a picture is my phone and told him I thought it was this chick from years ago. That is the only time I had heard a name as such. I approached a guy and asked him about the salon. He said he had know idea, but maybe it is upstairs. We trekked through the building and up the stairs. It appeared to be an abandoned bar (not really the bar, but the upstairs part where they have all the rooms.) There was a big room with maybe six beds in it and a guy that seemed to be taking a break from work was sitting on the floor. Found the salon and knocked on the door, but nobody answered.

Headed back downstairs and the first person I saw was the chick I thought I knew. She was mopping the floor in a downstairs bar. I took my phone out and showed her the picture and said isn't this you? She denied it. In the picture she was in the hallway of the apartment with her tits out looking at pics on the wall, her and another chick. She said that she does not take pictures like that. I zoomed in on the picture and said are you sure this is not you? She said no. I said this is definitely you. Same color hair and all. I told her it was from probably 15 years ago when we took her and some more girls from Vila Mimosa back to Copacabana for the night for a big orgy. (We gave each of them 100 reais by the way.) She said that she has been married for 13 years now so to keep it on the low. She was surprised that I had a picture from way back then in my phone. But I have a folder of the best times in Rio, so that is one of the pics I happen to have in there. I told her it was nice seeing her and we left.

We walked up to Mosaico. There was music and lights, but the guy said they do not open until 8 pm. It was 7:30 then so we left. We continued up the street. I asked my brother if he wanted to take the train or bus back to Copacabana. I have only taken the train once so I never remember where it is. We hung a left. Wait a minute, we are about to come out where we came in. I asked a guy that was passing on a bicycle and holding his infant where Sao Cristavao station was. He doubled back to answer me. He said it was back the other way. So we should have made the right. Nevermind. We went to the bus stop and waited for the 455 or 456 back to Copacabana. It was really slow. There was some guy on the ground close to the bus stop. We could not tell if he was alive or dead. We saw like 4 457 buses pass on the median that we could have taken. Oh well. Finally a 455 came.That's amazing that you bumped into the girl you had an orgy with years ago. Shame you two didn't go for a beer or a conversation. Crazy.

LongBeach1199
03-05-21, 12:40
Hi yall,

This is my first post so bare with me. I had a trip planned to visit Rio 3/26 - 4/3 and I just heard about the lockdown and how restaurants will be closing at 5 and clubs are closed indefinitely. Is it still worth going on this trip or should I start looking for other places to visit. If so what places are good to visit for not only mongering purposes but also for sightseeing.

LB.

LatinaLover#1
03-05-21, 13:17
All of my trips to Rio, and I have never been to VM. Every time I see pictures from there I think "flithy". Just can't get myself to pull thee trigger and do it. I did say that I would at least go to Mosaico the next time. But, given your description, I don't know! Eeeww, eewwww, eeewwwwww!Ditto, actually I have visited VM a number of times but never actually sessional with any of them. I was content to have a beer, a seat on the porch of one of the bars and watch the show. I can't tell you how many times' I've seen the same girl in VM during the day and then see her all dressed up in Help that night for four times the price. Copa lost its appeal for me when TA and Help shut down, Balcony just didn't do it for me.

Kcrl01
03-05-21, 14:41
All of my trips to Rio, and I have never been to VM. Every time I see pictures from there I think "flithy". Just can't get myself to pull thee trigger and do it. I did say that I would at least go to Mosaico the next time. But, given your description, I don't know! Eeeww, eewwww, eeewwwwww!For me 95% of the fun of going to VM is the people watching. It's like a freaking human zoo minus the cages! IMHO!

The Tall Man
03-05-21, 16:08
Monday night we left 4 X4 and took Uber to Vila Mimosa. I did not know an address, so I just put in Mosaico. 9. 88 reais. I had the driver let us out right at the bridge so my brother could experience the walk and peee on the wall for initiation. There was a parking lot open for business and my brother asked who the hell would be parking there; there is nothing around here. Beats the hell out of me. We turned the corner and I took one last picture.

The place was an old shell of itself. Hardly any chicks and the smell has gotten really worse. In the usual spots I saw definitely 1 and maybe another chick that I would fuck. I asked one chick the price and she said 65 reais.

We walked out of that alley and went across the street looking. Found a new gem of a place that I have not seen before. Silvia 52! This is the best spot in VM. They have cut 55 gallon barrels and made them into chairs. They have big screen TVs and the place is very clean. We went in and ordered 2 caipirinhas. 10 reais each. 3 chicks that were my speed in this place and a couple of others that maybe you guys would like. I asked the best one how much and she said 85 reais for 30 minutes. Of course I talked shit about the price and she said it is not her price, but the price of the bar. I told her she was the best looking thing in VM so she deserves it. I told my brother the prices used to run 1 real per minute in VM. He saw her tan lines and asked if they all go to the beach to get those. Good question. In 20 years I have never thought to ask. So I asked her. She said she lays out on the roof of the building she lives in in Pena to get the tan..WTF! Look at those rooms! Great report and photos!

My 2 visits to Rio and on one visited VM was 21 years ago, yep yep the summer of 2000 and I don't recall the VM rooms being that filthy dirty.

Heck it makes some of the 5 mil rooms that I was in here in Medellin centro look like a 5 star hotel room, hehehehe.

I need to get back to Rio and just experience it again. Oh the memories that I have of HELP and some of the girls I pulled from there.

The Tall Man.

Bravo
03-05-21, 17:47
Hi yall,

This is my first post so bare with me. I had a trip planned to visit Rio 3/26 - 4/3 and I just heard about the lockdown and how restaurants will be closing at 5 and clubs are closed indefinitely. Is it still worth going on this trip or should I start looking for other places to visit. If so what places are good to visit for not only mongering purposes but also for sightseeing.

LB.I have a 2 month trip planned and now I have to wait to see what happens. If the termas, restaurants and clubs are all closed, then it doesn't make much sense to go to Rio at this time. I hope the curfew ends quickly. Anyone know how long the curfew is supposed to last for?

Sperto
03-05-21, 19:34
I have a 2 month trip planned and now I have to wait to see what happens. If the termas, restaurants and clubs are all closed, then it doesn't make much sense to go to Rio at this time. I hope the curfew ends quickly. Anyone know how long the curfew is supposed to last for?They start with 1 week.

Mr Enternational
03-05-21, 20:04
I have a 2 month trip planned and now I have to wait to see what happens. If the termas, restaurants and clubs are all closed, then it doesn't make much sense to go to Rio at this time. I hope the curfew ends quickly. Anyone know how long the curfew is supposed to last for?If you are coming for termas then you could save that money. They are nothing like they used to be. Before it seemed the chicks could at least pull the wool over your eyes making you think they are classy. These days it is just pure hood rattish and it is obvious the chicks you are dealing with. Just take one look at their shoes and the fantasy is all over.

I went to both 4X4 and T65. Speaking Portuguese I had a good time in the boates talking shit. In 4X4 it was apparent that the chicks were drink monsters. Some guys who were probably corporate cats were in there with 4 bottles of expensive liquor. The chicks were around them drinking it up. Some chicks would go from table to table getting guys to buy drinks for them. When they came to us trying to pull that I had to decline. Soonafter they were at another table getting guys to buy drinks.

I did have fun with those chicks and even got one of them's whatsapp. She said it was her first day. I asked how old she was and she said she was 28 with a some month old baby. I asked if she was sure, because she looked older than 28. She did not even know the prices and had to go outside to ask. She came back and said 270 for 30 minutes and 390 for 1 hour. I contacted her that night and it seemed she had the game messed up. She wanted 300 plus round trip Uber. I told her that was too much. Hell, if I was going to pay that much then I would have just fucked her in the club. She dropped to 250 but I never answered her back.

The next day in 65, I also had a good time hanging out. We did not put on robes there. The lady in the dressing room told me I had to leave my back pack in the locker though. I told her if was full of rubbers that I am going to need though.

We went up to the boate and I asked for a menu. The 70 entrance covers comsumption, but I wanted to see what I was spending. They did not have menus. We ordered a caipirinha anyway. It was big as shit.

Some chicks were in attack mode as soon as we sat down. When the chick that was on my brother found out he did not speak Portuguese, she backed off and called another chick over that could speak a little English. She had obvious fake hair. She asked me what my name was and I responded by asking her what the name of her hair was. She started laughing and said Lacey Wiggy. That shit made me fall out. She said her hair is short and when it gets longer she will stop wearing it. We got into a discussion about what men and women like. I told her men did not give a shit about how long her hair was. She said she was doing it for herself. I said bullshit. Women do things men like and men do things women like. I told her that if women did not give a shit about money then I would never work another day in my life.

We were running out of time because my brother had to get back to get ready to go to the airport. So we took the chicks to the rooms for 1 hour. In the boate my chick was making a lot of noise. But when we got into the room she turned out to be an empty wagon. On top of that the a/c did not work and it got hot as hell. She told me we only had 10 minutes left and I picked up my phone and showed her the timer where it said 36 minutes left. It was damn hot though. She started drinking my drink.

Finished and got in the shower. Mf shower was hot as shit. Now if the room was cold there would have been no hot water. But with a hot room, there was only hot water. When I got out of the shower I opened the room door and left it open before putting my clothes on. I had to get some air.

Went back to the boate and I still had half of my drink left. My brother came down soon after and we went downstairs to leave. The lady was not in the dressing room so I swiped one of the robes and put it in my bag for my brother. No idea what size it was. I told him if it was too small then he could give it to his 9 year old son. Went to check out and the total was 355. I asked the lady why I had to pay the same as him when I am more handsome than him. No uber would accept so we ended up taking a taxi back to Copacabana.

Sidenote: I remember reading a recent report of a guy saying he took a chick out of 4x4 for 1000. I thought he meant he got her number and had her come later for that amount. But no. That is the 4 x4 listed take out price. Don't know what he was thinking with that one. None of the chicks that I saw at either termas was worth half that and they both did have actual 40 and 50 year olds.

YippieKayay
03-05-21, 20:30
I have a 2 month trip planned and now I have to wait to see what happens. If the termas, restaurants and clubs are all closed, then it doesn't make much sense to go to Rio at this time. I hope the curfew ends quickly. Anyone know how long the curfew is supposed to last for?Can someone confirm do "clubs" include termas? I was going to make plans to return as a side trip but won't go if this is the case.

The Cane
03-05-21, 20:34
When the chick that was on my brother found out he did not speak Portuguese, she backed off and called another chick over that could speak a little English. She had obvious fake hair. She asked me what my name was and I responded by asking her what the name of her hair was. She started laughing and said Lacey Wiggy. That shit made me fall out. She said her hair is short and when it gets longer she will stop wearing it. We got into a discussion about what men and women like. I told her men did not give a shit about how long her hair was. She said she was doing it for herself. I said bullshit. Women do things men like and men do things women like. I told her that if women did not give a shit about money then I would never work another day in my life.

The lady was not in the dressing room so I swiped one of the robes and put it in my bag for my brother. No idea what size it was. I told him if it was too small then he could give it to his 9 year old son. Went to check out and the total was 355. I asked the lady why I had to pay the same as him when I am more handsome than him. No uber would accept so we ended up taking a taxi back to Copacabana.That was funny as hell about some hair LOL! But, you say you did what? You swiped a robe LOL! I stayed at a hotel in Miami South Beach once where they actually encouraged you to take the robes. Then, I have one from an FKK, but that's when the place required you to buy a robe if you wanted to use one (they long ago stopped that practice).

FlcnHvy
03-05-21, 21:54
If you are coming for termas then you could save that money. They are nothing like they used to be. Before it seemed the chicks could at least pull the wool over your eyes making you think they are classy. These days it is just pure hood rattish and it is obvious the chicks you are dealing with. Just take one look at their shoes and the fantasy is all over.

I went to both 4X4 and T65. Speaking Portuguese I had a good time in the boates talking shit. In 4X4 it was apparent that the chicks were drink monsters. Some guys who were probably corporate cats were in there with 4 bottles of expensive liquor. The chicks were around them drinking it up. Some chicks would go from table to table getting guys to buy drinks for them. When they came to us trying to pull that I had to decline. Soonafter they were at another table getting guys to buy drinks.

I did have fun with those chicks and even got one of them's whatsapp. She said it was her first day. I asked how old she was and she said she was 28 with a some month old baby. I asked if she was sure, because she looked older than 28. She did not even know the prices and had to go outside to ask. She came back and said 270 for 30 minutes and 390 for 1 hour. I contacted her that night and it seemed she had the game messed up. She wanted 300 plus round trip Uber. I told her that was too much. Hell, if I was going to pay that much then I would have just fucked her in the club. She dropped to 250 but I never answered her back.

The next day in 65, I also had a good time hanging out. We did not put on robes there. The lady in the dressing room told me I had to leave my back pack in the locker though. I told her if was full of rubbers that I am going to need though.

We went up to the boate and I asked for a menu. The 70 entrance covers comsumption, but I wanted to see what I was spending. They did not have menus. We ordered a caipirinha anyway. It was big as shit.

Some chicks were in attack mode as soon as we sat down. When the chick that was on my brother found out he did not speak Portuguese, she backed off and called another chick over that could speak a little English. She had obvious fake hair. She asked me what my name was and I responded by asking her what the name of her hair was. She started laughing and said Lacey Wiggy. That shit made me fall out. She said her hair is short and when it gets longer she will stop wearing it. We got into a discussion about what men and women like. I told her men did not give a shit about how long her hair was. She said she was doing it for herself. I said bullshit. Women do things men like and men do things women like. I told her that if women did not give a shit about money then I would never work another day in my life.

We were running out of time because my brother had to get back to get ready to go to the airport. So we took the chicks to the rooms for 1 hour. In the boate my chick was making a lot of noise. But when we got into the room she turned out to be an empty wagon. On top of that the a/c did not work and it got hot as hell. She told me we only had 10 minutes left and I picked up my phone and showed her the timer where it said 36 minutes left. It was damn hot though. She started drinking my drink.

Finished and got in the shower. Mf shower was hot as shit. Now if the room was cold there would have been no hot water. But with a hot room, there was only hot water. When I got out of the shower I opened the room door and left it open before putting my clothes on. I had to get some air.

Went back to the boate and I still had half of my drink left. My brother came down soon after and we went downstairs to leave. The lady was not in the dressing room so I swiped one of the robes and put it in my bag for my brother. No idea what size it was. I told him if it was too small then he could give it to his 9 year old son. Went to check out and the total was 355. I asked the lady why I had to pay the same as him when I am more handsome than him. No uber would accept so we ended up taking a taxi back to Copacabana.

Sidenote: I remember reading a recent report of a guy saying he took a chick out of 4x4 for 1000. I thought he meant he got her number and had her come later for that amount. But no. That is the 4 x4 listed take out price. Don't know what he was thinking with that one. None of the chicks that I saw at either termas was worth half that and they both did have actual 40 and 50 year olds.Fully agree with the perception of this post.

I'm in the same camp. I love to 'talk shit' in the termas, and chat up the chicks, pretty fun when you are bored and want to kick the shit.

4 x4: first vibe was great. But then realized my ass gets WAY to drunk (I like having a fun time). Funny thing, I'm not against buying drinks etc. So I often rack up a tab. Two tabs at 4 x4 were 250-350 for JUST drinks. Every Terma I've gone to I've had two girls make out with me etc. Etc. Fun times. But I agree! After my drunk ass has realized these girls are FUCKING TRASH (sorry). 4 x4 is affordable compared to solarium.

Solarium: its "okay". Nothing different really from talent. When I was sober I was literally ready to leave after my second whisky. Funny enough I started chatting up and drinking more. Got 4 numbers and it's apparently a "no-no" there (like everywhere I assume), but possibly the girls game up the no number beore sex there. The upstairs room is a little cramped but I liked the vibe after I was drinking etc. The lady talent in there was not up to par. Did not fuck, although my tab was fucking almost 900! Hilarious thing. I walked in to solarium, and my first month here in Brazil i picked up this chick from petropolis who stayed with me for 2.5 days (for 600 hehe), and i saw her in solarium when i walked in getting mac'd on. we had a good laugh and threeway kiss after. sweetheart, but i was NOT attracted to her and she was one of the top 10%ers in solarium.

These chicas will to come over for 300, I offer 400 occasionally to avoid hassel. But the price eventually settles at 300 for me if I'll be a regular.

I spent the 1 k for the "sair rate" at 4 x4 on what I believed was my last night. Fucking horrible. NEVER DO IT. NEVER EVER EVER! DON"T BE A FUCKTARD!

I would recommend, hit up the termas, have a few drinks, straight to the point, get a few numbers, and you'll get hit up. These chicks are looking for employers so be a good a boss!

Anyhow, I totally feel you on the classyness / looks of the termas chicas. I don't enjoy fucking 'dirty' chicks. I need some class, looks, youth, or freshness. It is out there, but fucking and spending shittons of money at the termas to get the Brazil experience is not it imo. Although you can make some connections and its a fun time. I remember my internal process during some of my recent terma trips. i've always wanted to leave initially not being attracted to the talent. i've also come the understanding these girls are pretty drop dead stupid. hence why it can be fun to 'talk shit' (very polite) and just have fun.... but when you realize that these girls are uneducated, have a bunch of free time (applicable if you have a long time in brazil) and have sort of programmed the way to deal with men, the interactions become pretty straightforward and easier.
I do think for the 'noobs' the more time you spend in the various arenas of putas you'll start to get the game and how these chicks operate and how they think. I've had a few cases in which 'hot' girls think they can ask me 600 or 3000 for all night... just hilarious.

Mr Enternational
03-05-21, 22:33
Can someone confirm do "clubs" include termas? I was going to make plans to return as a side trip but won't go if this is the case.I do not know if clubs include termas, but boates sure do.

JohnnyWalker55
03-06-21, 00:33
Nothing good happens after 11, IDC about that, with clubs closed just go on photoacompantes, but restaurants closing at 5 pm? The fucking restaurants!! Fuck! How the hell am I supposed to get all you can meat through delivery fml. Well, that's the risk of traveling to a Level 4 risk country just for some carioca bunda kkkkkk. And people say mongering is not a sport!

*just found out some decent news* : judge blocked the mayors order of 5pm restuarants and bars and extended it to 8pm. thank god.

https://twitter.com/fabifbbr/status/1367947797404778498

Sperto
03-06-21, 02:24
Nothing good happens after 11, IDC about that, with clubs closed just go on photoacompantes, but restaurants closing at 5 pm? The fucking restaurants!! Fuck! How the hell am I supposed to get all you can meat through delivery fml.

*just found out some decent news* : judge blocked the mayors order of 5pm restuarants and bars and extended it to 8pm. thank god.
Thanks god! You'll have 3 more hours to fill your belly. :)

Xpartan
03-06-21, 08:20
If you are coming for termas then you could save that money. They are nothing like they used to be. Before it seemed the chicks could at least pull the wool over your eyes making you think they are classy. These days it is just pure hood rattish and it is obvious the chicks you are dealing with.What's a collective suite? Is it at 4 x4? Don't remember seeing anything like that (before the fire).

Vagabundo1
03-06-21, 09:39
Yea I was there when flcn paid the 1000.

I didn't even get a drink for my 70.

I don't even like 4 x4 best.

I find the better girls for my purposes (350 pernoites) at darkside termas t31 mv30 and the other trash termas of centro, vm, and mosaico.

It is kind of embarrassing to go in and get worked like that.

But my rep is ok since I bring new customers several times a month.

I'm just like the corporal in that Jorge Amado novella.

I will navigate for the general gringos.

When it comes to pulling the trigger I am straight up cheap brasileiro.


If you are coming for termas then you could save that money. They are nothing like they used to be. Before it seemed the chicks could at least pull the wool over your eyes making you think they are classy. These days it is just pure hood rattish and it is obvious the chicks you are dealing with. Just take one look at their shoes and the fantasy is all over.

I went to both 4X4 and T65. Speaking Portuguese I had a good time in the boates talking shit. In 4X4 it was apparent that the chicks were drink monsters. Some guys who were probably corporate cats were in there with 4 bottles of expensive liquor. The chicks were around them drinking it up. Some chicks would go from table to table getting guys to buy drinks for them. When they came to us trying to pull that I had to decline. Soonafter they were at another table getting guys to buy drinks.

I did have fun with those chicks and even got one of them's whatsapp. She said it was her first day. I asked how old she was and she said she was 28 with a some month old baby. I asked if she was sure, because she looked older than 28. She did not even know the prices and had to go outside to ask. She came back and said 270 for 30 minutes and 390 for 1 hour..

Voyajer1
03-06-21, 14:41
That is a swing room. Two guys and two women go together to the room and can switch partners.


What's a collective suite? Is it at 4 x4? Don't remember seeing anything like that (before the fire).

Vagabundo1
03-06-21, 17:25
We are going into a depression.


If you are coming for termas then you could save that money. They are nothing like they used to be. Before it seemed the chicks could at least pull the wool over your eyes making you think they are classy. These days it is just pure hood rattish and it is obvious the chicks you are dealing with. Just take one look at their shoes and the fantasy is all over.

I went to both 4X4 and T65. Speaking Portuguese I had a good time in the boates talking shit. In 4X4 it was apparent that the chicks were drink monsters. Some guys who were probably corporate cats were in there with 4 bottles of expensive liquor. The chicks were around them drinking it up. Some chicks would go from table to table getting guys to buy drinks for them. When they came to us trying to pull that I had to decline. Soonafter they were at another table getting guys to buy drinks.

I did have fun with those chicks and even got one of them's whatsapp. She said it was her first day. I asked how old she was and she said she was 28 with a some month old baby. I asked if she was sure, because she looked older than 28. She did not even know the prices and had to go outside to ask. She came back and said 270 for 30 minutes and 390 for 1 hour. I contacted her that night and it seemed she had the game messed up. She wanted 300 plus round trip Uber. I told her that was too much. Hell, if I was going to pay that much then I would have just fucked her in the club. She dropped to 250 but I never answered her back.

The next day in 65, I also had a good time hanging out. We did not put on robes there. The lady in the dressing room told me I had to leave my back pack in the locker though. I told her if was full of rubbers that I am going to need though..

RysZardo
03-06-21, 21:03
Do you know if thermas are open now during lockdown and what time do they close? I tried to contact them but no response.

I had one more girl from Barra VIPs, but unfortunately this time it was bad one. I ordered 18 years old chick from Copa, slim, beauty. When I saw her I was super excited. She looks exactly like in the pictures, which is not too common. Unfortunately later when she took off her clothes there was big disappointment. She wasn't prepared for meeting, she had a lot of hairs everywhere, I mean on legs, hands, even on her ass and backs. Come on I don't have Chewbacca fetish. Plus her pussy didn't look "resh". I was going to focus more on thermas now and Mabs, but this fucking lockdown. About Mabs any idea if girls are walking around after 23.00 during curfew?

Vagabundo1
03-06-21, 21:25
As Mr E suggests by his comment that the talent is more hood rat level in the termas, I agree with a wingman from when I was living in Copa March 2020-July 2020 that we are going into a economic decline, at least a recession and more likely a depression. My wingman who was among a small group of 4 that congregated on Av Nossa Copa between P4 and P5, is an intelligent black man who has lived in Rio for 2+ years. His insight, which I agree with, is that we are going into a decline and Brazilians are more accustomed to living with less money than most other countries, especially the rich world, and especially North America. So, he concluded, ironically, Brazil is safer than rich world countries in North America, which I think was demonstrated by those months in which certain areas in North America were afflicted by race and economic riots while Brazil was not as badly impacted (or at least if you can live in a safer area like Barra P6, it seems that way).

That group of 4-5 comrades was not unlike the 5 mongers in the last third of the Amado novella, "The Two Deaths" . Among the group there was a chess genius, a guy who would challenge all comers to games of chess and give odds of 2-for-1. He would bring a table, and we'd play at Kice Sucos or one of those stands, and the rest of the gang would gather around. Maybe I would buy beers, or another guy would buy beers, and rotate it around. One guy was the investigator, who was really a functional drunk doing some kind of investigation / paralegal work for a Brazilian law firm that represents lots of little bars / small businesses, including that lapa irish bar. There was the monger -- not very active -- who I quote. I was the most active monger, along with a Caribbean on a short term trip of a few months who had gotten stranded.

Well, I see more indications that we are indeed going into an economic decline on a global basis, and of course there is pre and post endemic world / realities.

The declining quality of the terma girls being less classy is one indication. Professionals who I have known for years started saying in late 2019 that the RJ state is in horrible shape, financially.

There are the anectdotal reports on this board of thiefs rolling by a victim and snatching a expensive necklace.

I suspect that the trend continues lower, towards more economic stress as the year, and the next few years go on.


We are going into a depression.

Sperto
03-07-21, 08:09
*just found out some decent news* : judge blocked the mayors order of 5pm restuarants and bars and extended it to 8pm. thank god. They have changed it back to 5 PM.

https://odia.ig.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/2021/03/6099040-justica-mantem-decreto-da-prefeitura-do-rio-e-bares-e-restaurantes-voltam-a-fechar-as-17h.html

Xpartan
03-07-21, 08:15
I do not know if clubs include termas, but boates sure do.The way I read it, it's about beachside establishments, no?

Xpartan
03-07-21, 08:21
That is a swing room. Two guys and two women go together to the room and can switch partners.So, the one-hour programma in a simple room is 390 reals, but in a swing room - 520? That wouldn't be for 2 guys, right? In which case, the pricing is fucked up unless you prefer mini-orgies, IMHO. If I want 2 girls, I'd rather take two 30-minute programmas for 540 reals total.

Kyrawz
03-07-21, 11:25
The declining quality of the terma girls being less classy is one indication. Professionals who I have known for years started saying in late 2019 that the RJ state is in horrible shape, financially.

Do you think they go to work in SP Area or other richer countries?

When I was in Colombia, it was same, every year, level go down. And when I was in Spain, I found the gem I met in Bogota an Medellin working in puticlub in Madrid or Barcelona.

Member #4698
03-07-21, 15:50
As Mr E suggests by his comment that the talent is more hood rat level in the termas, <snip>

Well, I see more indications that we are indeed going into an economic decline on a global basis, and of course there is pre and post endemic world / realities.

The declining quality of the terma girls being less classy is one indication. Professionals who I have known for years started saying in late 2019 that the RJ state is in horrible shape, financially. <snip>

I suspect that the trend continues lower, towards more economic stress as the year, and the next few years go on.I do not know where the world economies are heading. There are good arguments for expansion and equally good arguments for decline. I think we will just have to play it cautious and wait & see.

But if worldwide or just Brazilian economic conditions worsen, I would think the quality and quantity of good looking available girls to increase. The theory being that in an economic downturn many girls will lose their jobs and will need to bring home some money anyway they can.

In any case, I will be in Rio shortly and I will judge for myself what the current girly situation is. I am already at a slight disadvantage because I prefer girls with natural breasts, small butts, and thin thighs. Oh well! I still think I will do just fine.

One Eyed Man
03-07-21, 18:35
Well, I see more indications that we are indeed going into an economic decline on a global basis, and of course there is pre and post endemic world / realities.

The declining quality of the terma girls being less classy is one indication. Professionals who I have known for years started saying in late 2019 that the RJ state is in horrible shape, financially.

There are the anectdotal reports on this board of thiefs rolling by a victim and snatching a expensive necklace.

I suspect that the trend continues lower, towards more economic stress as the year, and the next few years go on.Shouldn't an economic decline result in higher-quality girls having to do sex work, as they can't get well-paid service jobs? I recall reading in the Argentina forum years ago that the writer was meeting professionals such as lawyers in the clubs due to the economic crisis there. Or, is this class of girls just going straight to the Internet?

FlcnHvy
03-07-21, 19:23
I do not know where the world economies are heading. There are good arguments for expansion and equally good arguments for decline. I think we will just have to play it cautious and wait & see.

But if worldwide or just Brazilian economic conditions worsen, I would think the quality and quantity of good looking available girls to increase. The theory being that in an economic downturn many girls will lose their jobs and will need to bring home some money anyway they can.

In any case, I will be in Rio shortly and I will judge for myself what the current girly situation is. I am already at a slight disadvantage because I prefer girls with natural breasts, small butts, and thin thighs. Oh well! I still think I will do just fine.To be clear. I think there are quality women, but one needs to figure out what works for one, and how to collect your rolladex. Have been with a pretty cute chill down to earth woman for two nights. She's into it all. But some girls are hitn or miss. I've had the trash clothes (she lived in slums of jacara) and just girls who arent worth what I'm paying for. Brazilian chicas can be so liberal and relaxed with time. I don't think economic downturns etc. Will make a huge diff. There is pussy everywhere here. Just termas can be a deluding experiencing in which diamonds of course can be found. These girls operate on a day to day basis.

I dont think one can really expect girls to be generally classy... ive not been around the older days...

Mr Enternational
03-07-21, 20:02
In any case, I will be in Rio shortly and I will judge for myself what the current girly situation is. I am already at a slight disadvantage because I prefer girls with natural breasts, small butts, and thin thighs. Oh well! I still think I will do just fine.This blast from the glory days should show you that Brazilians are not all big tits and asses and fake body parts. That is the same as how guys say they do not want to go to Thailand because all the girls are built like railroad tracks. We both know that is not true.

Bravo
03-07-21, 20:35
Are Brasilians prohibited from traveling to Europe during the Covid pandemic? I was wondering if there is a mass exodus after March like in the past? If there are travel restrictions to Europe, then I can postpone my trip to Rio until the curfew is lifted.

Vagabundo1
03-07-21, 20:59
I honestly don't know.

It's chaos theory in action.

The broad trend over a decade is the rise of the middle class which hookers and their customers are part of; local richer men take the better talent.

2020 started a economic decline, partly due to the lack of tourists.

It's chaos, like breaking the rack in a pool game.

I think I'm the short term it gets more violent.


Shouldn't an economic decline result in higher-quality girls having to do sex work, as they can't get well-paid service jobs? I recall reading in the Argentina forum years ago that the writer was meeting professionals such as lawyers in the clubs due to the economic crisis there. Or, is this class of girls just going straight to the Internet?

Frenchieboy
03-07-21, 21:20
Are Brasilians prohibited from traveling to Europe during the Covid pandemic? I was wondering if there is a mass exodus after March like in the past? If there are travel restrictions to Europe, then I can postpone my trip to Rio until the curfew is lifted.It is not possible for Brasilans to come in Europe now, except if you live or work in europe or if you are an european citizen.

Combo
03-07-21, 21:25
Shouldn't an economic decline result in higher-quality girls having to do sex work, as they can't get well-paid service jobs? I recall reading in the Argentina forum years ago that the writer was meeting professionals such as lawyers in the clubs due to the economic crisis there. Or, is this class of girls just going straight to the Internet?That would seem more logical.

Vagabundo1
03-07-21, 22:39
Maybe that's logical but it's not what is happening.


That would seem more logical.

Mr Enternational
03-07-21, 23:19
Are Brasilians prohibited from traveling to Europe during the Covid pandemic?Hell, people in Manaus are not even allowed to leave the city.

The Cane
03-07-21, 23:32
Hell, people in Manaus are not even allowed to leave the city.Brazil is still a no go zone for me. Manaus has been hit hard:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/03/world/americas/brazil-covid-variant.html

UniversalX
03-08-21, 07:09
Brazil is still a no go zone for me. Manaus has been hit hard: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/03/world/americas/brazil-covid-variant.htmlI concur with The Cane.

I cannot find the will-power to pull the trigger, I guess I am a Scaredy-Cat. I see videos and Brazilian news shows and it looks like the mask wearing (and social distancing) seems to be non-existent as though COVID does not exist.

The NYT article linked by The Cane is no joke. I must applaud the bravery of those (of the forum) who have traveled to and plan on traveling to Brazil in addition to those on extended stays. As Spock says. "Live long and Prosper".

I found this quote in the NTY article is telling "The immunity you get with your cemeteries running out of room, even that will not be enough to protect you. (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/03/world/americas/brazil-covid-variant.html).

I do not know when it will be a good time to travel maybe 4 QTR 21 or sometime 22. For Anyone on the sidelines when do you guesstimate when the coast to be clear to travel to Brazil?.

Vagabundo1
03-08-21, 09:39
Devils go where angels fear to tread.

Or it may be fools.

I dreamed I was running through Rio whoring while Wearing a gas mask with contractors and operators from my old unit.

As is I know where to get first rate medical care (university or the hospital next to the bombeiros hq).

Good prevention is key.

Exercise (Transamerica triathlon, fighting fucking and futbol), diet (homemade moqueca!

It is a great time to be in Brazil. Unless you die haha.


I concur with The Cane.

I cannot find the will-power to pull the trigger, I guess I am a Scaredy-Cat. I see videos and Brazilian news shows and it looks like the mask wearing (and social distancing) seems to be non-existent as though COVID does not exist.

The NYT article linked by The Cane is no joke. I must applaud the bravery of those (of the forum) who have traveled to and plan on traveling to Brazil in addition to those on extended stays. As Spock says. "Live long and Prosper".

I found this quote in the NTY article is telling "The immunity you get with your cemeteries running out of room, even that will not be enough to protect you. (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/03/world/americas/brazil-covid-variant.html).

I do not know when it will be a good time to travel maybe 4 QTR 21 or sometime 22. For Anyone on the sidelines when do you guesstimate when the coast to be clear to travel to Brazil?.

The Cane
03-08-21, 12:04
I do not know when it will be a good time to travel maybe 4 QTR 21 or sometime 22. For Anyone on the sidelines when do you guesstimate when the coast to be clear to travel to Brazil?.My guess is sometime in 2022, without a full worldwide recovery all around until 2024. I plan to do some domestic travel this year, then get in some international in 2022. I hope!

Mr Enternational
03-08-21, 13:54
I cannot find the will-power to pull the trigger, I guess I am a Scaredy-Cat. I see videos and Brazilian news shows and it looks like the mask wearing (and social distancing) seems to be non-existent as though COVID does not exist.I do not know what videos you are watching, but in person Brazil looks like everywhere else in the world that I have been during these times; most people wearing masks and a couple of people not.

Maybe stay away from the videos. I was in Thailand from the beginning of the pandemic until the end of September. There were only about 3000 cases and 58 people that died there during that time. The news and videos would have me believe the west was in an apocalypse and people were falling out in the streets. When I got back to the States, the only differences I saw was that people were wearing masks and some restaurants being take-away only. Maybe if I worked in a hospital I would have seen some apocalyptic things inside, but being a regular joe on the street what really are you seeing different that is putting so much fear into you?

When I got into T65 I had on my mask. The lady in the locker room told me I didn't need to wear a mask in there. So I took it off and went to kiss her. She kissed me on the cheek. I said no we are kissing in the mouth. She fought that. I said exactly. Until you are willing to kiss me in the mouth, don't say I don't need to wear a mask. I will not run around willy nilly without a mask in close quarters, but I am not going to live in a bubble either.

Turgid
03-08-21, 14:06
...I cannot find the will-power to pull the trigger...Neither can I, just don't feel comfortable travelling now.

The Cane
03-08-21, 14:40
I was in Thailand from the beginning of the pandemic until the end of September. There were only about 3000 cases and 58 people that died there during that time. The news and videos would have me believe the west was in an apocalypse and people were falling out in the streets. When I got back to the States, the only differences I saw was that people were wearing masks and some restaurants being take-away only. Maybe if I worked in a hospital I would have seen some apocalyptic things inside, but being a regular joe on the street what really are you seeing different that is putting so much fear into you?I always factor in that I suspect a significant amount of under reporting, especially in developing countries. And in some places (Spain & Italy), it seems that it was indeed the "virus apocalypse" in the west. And regardless of where you are, anybody with pre-existing conditions or at an age where they might be more susceptible to serious illness from this virus should be playing it safe. The risk factors for each individual are going to be different, and they should act accordingly. I know of somebody with an auto-immune deficiency for example. She needs to be living in a bubble. At the very least, everybody should be social distancing where possible and wearing a mask to protect other people from getting sick.

Mr Enternational
03-08-21, 17:36
And regardless of where you are, anybody with pre-existing conditions or at an age where they might be more susceptible to serious illness from this virus should be playing it safe. I have asthma, which is a pre-existing condition. But I am saying there is a difference in being safe and being paranoid. Being safe is wearing a mask. Being paranoid is being afraid to go somewhere because you think you are going to catch it and die.

I went out to eat with my cousin back in November. She had on 2 masks and a face shield. I could not even hear her talking. When we ordered food, she got hers to go. I was confused. Turned out she had not been out anywhere since the thing started and she was paranoid to be out in public. She did end up taking one bite, but took the rest of her food home.

I have been to like 8 countries since this thing started and have not come into contact with anything that is making me fear for my life. I can practice a reasonable amount of safety and keep living my normal life at the same time.

Vagabundo1
03-08-21, 17:50
Quality cheap ppe.

Don't overlook gloves.

5 are for mask with filter.

Ditto gloves.

Ditto eye pro.


Devils go where angels fear to tread.

Or it may be fools.

I dreamed I was running through Rio whoring while Wearing a gas mask with contractors and operators from my old unit.

As is I know where to get first rate medical care (university or the hospital next to the bombeiros hq).

Good prevention is key.

Exercise (Transamerica triathlon, fighting fucking and futbol), diet (homemade moqueca!

It is a great time to be in Brazil. Unless you die haha.

Vagabundo1
03-08-21, 17:54
I concur!

I would add:

Hydrate or die (coco water is 6.99 r at Pedro health store. I forget the exact name).

Sleep 6+ hours daily.

Exercise especially swimming.


I have asthma, which is a pre-existing condition. But I am saying there is a difference in being safe and being paranoid. Being safe is wearing a mask. Being paranoid is being afraid to go somewhere because you think you are going to catch it and die.

I went out to eat with my cousin back in November. She had on 2 masks and a face shield. I could not even hear her talking. When we ordered food, she got hers to go. I was confused. Turned out she had not been out anywhere since the thing started and she was paranoid to be out in public. She did end up taking one bite, but took the rest of her food home.

I have been to like 8 countries since this thing started and have not come into contact with anything that is making me fear for my life. I can practice a reasonable amount of safety and keep living my normal life at the same time.

Vagabundo1
03-08-21, 20:49
This is what the professionals (fireman, bus drivers) wear.


Quality cheap ppe.

Don't overlook gloves.

5 reais for mask with filter.

Ditto gloves.

Ditto eye pro.

Member #4698
03-08-21, 21:40
And the data is the data, although everyone has their own risk tolerance level, so I won't criticize anyone who follows a more risk averse path than myself or someone who is more risk tolerant.

I know people who have had the virus. We probably all do. One 52-year-old friend, in good health, caught the virus and he said it was the worst 8 days he ever experienced with severe migraine headaches and overall body weakness. He said couldn't do anything for a week. Another 55-year-old friend who is also in good health caught it and he said he barely felt a thing. He knew he had it because his wife also had it, but she was in real bad shape for 10 days. Then I have a 45-year-old cousin, in good health, who got it and he said he felt weak and lethargic for about a week and then he got better fast. Lastly, I know a couple of younger American girls, in their early 30's and very healthy. They caught it but told me they felt nothing more than some slight flu symptoms for a few days.

So, with all the CDC data and the anecdotal information I mentioned above and realizing that although I am in very good health, I am over 60 (fuck), I decided to play it safe through out 2020. Meanwhile a good friend of mine, in his 50's and in good health went down to Sao Paulo in October. I could have easily gone with him. He told me he had a great time and was not affected adversely in any way. I chose not to go down with him to Brazil not because I was afraid of dying. Dying from this virus is rare unless you have a pre-condition or are over 70. But I didn't want to risk getting laid up with this BS in a hotel room in a foreign country for a week to 10 days feeling like shit. So, I waited at home while my friend did 2 chicas a day in SP. Good for him!

But now I have had the Moderna double shot and my decision is to wait no more. Wait for what? The end of the virus Worldwide or just in Brazil? That might take years. No, not me. I am willing to take some risks now and face whatever the consequences which, BTW, I think will be minor post-inoculation. I could be wrong. But that's the risk I am now willing to take which I wasn't willing to take pre inoculation due to my age.

The good news is most of us will have the opportunity to get vaccinated in the next few months, so waiting a little longer is not the worst thing in the world, but hey, my situation has changed so I am going, but my risk tolerance is such that if I were in my 40's or low 50's, I would not have waited out 2020. I would have travelled. But that is just me. Everyone is free to make their own decisions based on the data and their particular risk assessments.

One more thing concerning RJ & SP girls: I think a lot of them have already had the virus and had few if any symptoms. They are young & healthy! This is just speculation on my part, but herd immunity is real and it is occurring in the USA with the aid of the vaccine and in Brazil without. Just saying.

I still plan to play it relatively safe when I am in Brazil and not take too many risks, but when I am with a young, pretty Brazilian girl who looks healthy, acts healthy, says she feels good, then she probably is good, ha ha, for me. But yeah, life is a risk. Just leaving your house in the morning and driving down the freeway to the office has a certain amount of risk to it. And remember, pre-Wuhan, going down on your favorite Asian of Brazilian hookers and barebacking them had certain risks albeit different risks as well. I am tired of being on pause. I played it safe and conservative until I was finally vaccinated. Now, it is time for me to go out and have some fun again and yes to take some calculated risks. Be safe & keep on rockin'.

NB.

Member #4729
03-09-21, 01:33
This is just a request for mongers with boots on the ground to keep us all updated in high resolution on the current state of closure, or lack thereof, of institutions of procurement. I will be coming down in May for the first time and I'm sure the situation will be changed by then but it will be nice to know how the various Termas, Privates, Boates, etc respond to lockdown orders in general-however transient they may be. It seems like there is a healthy trade in escort sites as well so I'm telling myself that would be a decent failsafe if everything else gets shut down. Being healthy and in my mid 40's I'm less concerned with the virus but more interested in how this will affect my extracurriculars.

Sounds like Thailand has decided to reduce / eliminate the quarantine so it's a bit frustrating committing to Rio only to have restrictions descend upon my back-up trip plan while loosening on my primary. I suppose this whole year is a crapshoot.

-also if anyone can enlighten on the travel restrictions from Brazil to Colombia would also be appreciated.

Thanks in advance my friends.

Member #4729
03-09-21, 01:50
While I'm at it- I've RTFF quite a bit (50+ pages) but still can't get a complete sense of the natural occurrence in Rio of my preferred physique- The Spinner.

My preference is for rail thin petite Asian girls and so I find mongering locations like the DR to be bleak deserts of unpalatable giant ass.

I was able to find spinners in Bogota / Medellin but it really took some work. Is Rio isometric to Colombia in that regard?

One commenter here said that there are plenty of spinners to be found in Rio, and that they are not as in demand and so perhaps demand LE $$.

Anyone care to chime in and confirm or deny?

Xpartan
03-09-21, 02:36
The good news is most of us will have the opportunity to get vaccinated in the next few months
NB.That's right. Like you said, most people will be able to get their shots. While that still leaves a 5. 5% risk to contract the disease, the vaccine is said to protect close to 100% from severe forms, which is what any sane person should be concerned with, IMHO. There is one remaining issues though. If you test positive before your flight home, you'll miss your flight. Now I know many worse places than Rio to be stuck in, but if there is even a slight chance to lose your job over this slim possibility I'd think twice (not my case, though).

But even then, the CDC is waiving the testing requirement if you've been vaccinated within 3 months. And they may extend it if new studies show that immunity stays longer than that (and it probably does).

UniversalX
03-09-21, 05:57
...But now I have had the Moderna double shot and my decision is to wait no more. Wait for what? The end of the virus Worldwide or just in Brazil? That might take years. No, not me. I am willing to take some risks now and face whatever the consequences which, BTW, I think will be minor post-inoculation. I could be wrong. But that's the risk I am now willing to take which I wasn't willing to take pre inoculation due to my age.

The good news is most of us will have the opportunity to get vaccinated in the next few months, so waiting a little longer is not the worst thing in the world, but hey, my situation has changed so I am going, but my risk tolerance is such that if I were in my 40's or low 50's, I would not have waited out 2020. I would have travelled. But that is just me. Everyone is free to make their own decisions based on the data and their particular risk assessments.

Congrats, on getting vaccinated. I hope to be soon. Overall I agree, If your vaccinated that changes the whole equation. I will once vaccinated assess my risk tolerance which also depends on the vaccination rate adoption of the city I plan to visit.

Turgid
03-09-21, 14:42
My reticence in travelling is not to spook anyone. Hell, what would ISG be like today if mongers stayed at home. Perhaps too many reports like mine haha. We all must live according to our level of caution. I rarely take risks which is why I never got rich or married. Getting married is much riskier than mongering. In any event I will travel as soon as I am comfortable doing so and that probably applies to nuptials as well. 60+ year old guy speaking.

HarryDubois
03-09-21, 15:32
I have the impression that Brazil in general and perhaps Rio de Janeiro in particular are more accepting of prostitution than any other place in the world.

I have read that pimping and brothels are technically prohibited, however so long as the providers are over 18 that is completely unenforced.

Even in countries which legalize prostitution, it is still carefully regulated and monitored, in regards to limiting it to certain areas, health check ups, mandatory condoms, etc.

Even in countries where prostitution is illegal but widely practiced, the police must be properly bribed, police raids occasionally occur, etc.

In Rio however it seems as if anything goes. So long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, then do anything you want to, whenever you want to, however you want to, anywhere you want to, for free or for pay, so long as you aren't butt naked in the middle of the street, go for it, have fun. And during Carnival maybe middle of the street is OK as well.

It seems to be a uniquely liberal attitude toward sexuality (although I'm sure a few other places are not far behind).

Does this sound about right, or am I misunderstanding something?

Sperto
03-09-21, 16:30
I have the impression that Brazil in general and perhaps Rio de Janeiro in particular are more accepting of prostitution than any other place in the world.
I have read that pimping and brothels are technically prohibited, however so long as the providers are over 18 that is completely unenforced...... In Rio however it seems as if anything goes. So long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, then do anything you want to, whenever you want to, however you want to, anywhere you want to, for free or for pay, so long as you aren't butt naked in the middle of the street, go for it, have fun. And during Carnival maybe middle of the street is OK as well.I guess you still havn't made your first trip to Brazil?

HarryDubois
03-09-21, 16:52
I guess you still havn't made your first trip to Brazil?The problem is that I am in Israel and all air, sea and land exits are closed. Apparently the Israeli government got a deal with Pfizer to vaccinate everybody in the country on condition that we close the country off so that the effectiveness of the vaccine on 9 million people can be studied. We are temporarily locked up Guinea pigs, but this may change any week.

I am all vaccinated up with nowhere to go.

How has COVID affected the sex industry in Rio? With the absence of tourists is it a buyers market due to high supply and low demand or it hasn't had much effect?

YippieKayay
03-09-21, 17:10
How has COVID affected the sex industry in Rio? With the absence of tourists is it a buyers market due to high supply and low demand or it hasn't had much effect?I was there in November it was a buyers market. Termas were mostly empty of customers and women would surround me as I entered.

Mr Enternational
03-09-21, 18:01
How has COVID affected the sex industry in Rio? With the absence of tourists is it a buyers market due to high supply and low demand or it hasn't had much effect?You do realize that Rio has millions of citizens. 100 sex tourists is not going to affect the sex industry there. Anytime you board a flight to Brazil, it is full of Brazilians, not full of foreign tourists.

YippieKayay
03-09-21, 18:30
You do realize that Rio has millions of citizens. 100 sex tourists is not going to affect the sex industry there. Anytime you board a flight to Brazil, it is full of Brazilians, not full of foreign tourists.You think Brazilians were not affected by COVID? Go to Sao Paolo and look at all the stores and restaurants that went out of business. Also show me an average Brazilian that can spend 700-900 reals in a terma every night they are in Rio.

HarryDubois
03-09-21, 19:00
You think Brazilians were not affected by COVID? Go to Sao Paolo and look at all the stores and restaurants that went out of business. Also show me an average Brazilian that can spend 700-900 reals in a terma every night they are in Rio.Most of the customers are Brazilians, however Rio had a big tourist industry so not only are the foreigners gone but all the related businesses are taking a hit.

I must get over there and rescue a few of these lonely young ladies who I am sure are in great need. Now it's truly a humanitarian mission!

JohnnyWalker55
03-09-21, 19:18
Been hitting cheap privas in the AM for a the fast morning nut, then photo acompanhantes / massagemes (onix and zen therapy best so far) for the heavy GFE / DATY / DFK. Its hotter than a mother fucker man, vagabundo is on the money with the coco water. Hit urugayana 24 this am and it was hilarious, a little hidden bar upstairs. Sessions with a thicc morena alissa. Brasilians have the best natural bodies in the world. If your thinking about coming, def pull the trigger.

Mr Enternational
03-09-21, 20:27
You think Brazilians were not affected by COVID? Go to Sao Paolo and look at all the stores and restaurants that went out of business. Also show me an average Brazilian that can spend 700-900 reals in a terma every night they are in Rio.I did not say Brazilians are not affected by Covid. I said that sex tourists can not affect the sex industry in Brazil. Which termas, sex club, privee, clinica, boate have you ever been in Brazil that was full of foreigners or even was as much as 10% foreigners to 90% Brazilians? These things exists to cater to Brazilians; a couple of foreigners just happen to stumble on to the places every blue moon.

How many foreigners do you think have been to this place in the middle of bum fuck that costs 250 to get in, 100 for the room, and 700 for the girl for 1 hour? They even give coordinates for helicopters. Maybe tons of foreigners are flying around Brazil in helicopters that they felt the need to list it on the website, which is not even in English.

https://fazendinha.com/

JohnnyWalker55
03-09-21, 21:13
While I'm at it- I've RTFF quite a bit (50+ pages) but still can't get a complete sense of the natural occurrence in Rio of my preferred physique- The Spinner.

My preference is for rail thin petite Asian girls and so I find mongering locations like the DR to be bleak deserts of unpalatable giant ass.

I was able to find spinners in Bogota / Medellin but it really took some work. Is Rio isometric to Colombia in that regard?

One commenter here said that there are plenty of spinners to be found in Rio, and that they are not as in demand and so perhaps demand LE $$.

Anyone care to chime in and confirm or deny?50 pages quite a bit? Need to get to at least 300 for the sperto posts lmao! Just playin man.

Yea there is every body type here, black white morena fat skinny muscular. Tons of variety. Was just at a terapia today with a 5 ft 100 lb spinner with a sexy face, solid 8. 30 min 100 real. I could barely fit she was so tight, and I'm only around 7 inches. A lot more variety than mde, no doubt. More of an ethnic look than the classic spanish paisa face, but you can find that here too. Lots of girls that look like alina riscado (google her, sexy af.).

LRon Hoyabembe
03-10-21, 02:08
50 pages quite a bit? Need to get to at least 300 for the sperto posts lmao! Just playin man.

Yea there is every body type here, black white morena fat skinny muscular. Tons of variety. Was just at a terapia today with a 5 ft 100 lb spinner with a sexy face, solid 8. 30 min 100 real. I could barely fit she was so tight, and I'm only around 7 inches. A lot more variety than mde, no doubt. More of an ethnic look than the classic spanish paisa face, but you can find that here too. Lots of girls that look like alina riscado (google her, sexy af.).Hey,

Which terapia did you go to? I'm in Copacabana / Ipanema at the moment. Been here for a few days for my first time. Wow this city, the energy, girls, they are so naturally in shape.

Vagabundo1
03-10-21, 02:18
No one who is here is actually arguing against coming to Brazil.

We, men, always seek to be dominant alpha males.

Thus, we always justify what we are doing.

I just banged Nina deponca and made her a good moqueca. 200 reais. BBFSCIP and up her ass.

We smoked ganja.

We listened to Felipe ret on auto play from google music. youtube.com.

The ideal time to be in Brazil has arrived.

Vagabundo1
03-10-21, 02:21
Yes.

The best girls are always from prives.


Been hitting cheap privas in the AM for a the fast morning nut, then photo acompanhantes / massagemes (onix and zen therapy best so far) for the heavy GFE / DATY / DFK. Its hotter than a mother fucker man, vagabundo is on the money with the coco water. Hit urugayana 24 this am and it was hilarious, a little hidden bar upstairs. Sessions with a thicc morena alissa. Brasilians have the best natural bodies in the world. If your thinking about coming, def pull the trigger.

Vagabundo1
03-10-21, 05:27
So, I banged Nina Deponca at my love shack at Transamerica.

200 reais, two pops, anal, BBFS.

Actually she kinda complained so I didn't fuck her ass.

I made moqueca. It is a good thing to have a good diet.

I went with Nina Deponca to central where she caught a ride home.

I took the 99 over to Club 116.

I picked the best girl, who is a falsa magra / lean morena. We did 30 minutes for 80 reais. Actually she took off early, but I had popped. She is awesomely hot, nice ass, a spinner.

I got her number (finally, she had been holding out), so the game is on for pernoites!

Most of centro is shut down.

502.

Espaco 26.

All shut down. But the secret terma was open, and it was good.

99 cost 40 reais both ways from barra to central.

SethMacfarlane
03-11-21, 02:56
No one who is here is actually arguing against coming to Brazil.

We, men, always seek to be dominant alpha males.

Thus, we always justify what we are doing.

I just banged Nina deponca and made her a good moqueca. 200 reais. BBFSCIP and up her ass.

We smoked ganja.

We listened to Felipe ret on auto play from google music. youtube.com.

The ideal time to be in Brazil has arrived.Jesus. That price sounds incredible.

HarryDubois
03-11-21, 12:34
In regards to prostitutes in Rio, I have the impression that there may be something called the Veblen Effect heavily involved.

https://www.monash.edu/business/marketing/marketing-dictionary/v/veblen-effect

This has been studied regarding wine.

https://winefolly.com/tips/is-expensive-wine-worth-it/

https://www.rd.com/article/why-expensive-wine-tastes-better/

In other words, when two different but very similar products have significantly different prices, people will prefer and perhaps even enjoy more the higher priced product even though objectively they are both of equal quality.

I get the impression, looking at the online ads, that R$150 and R$500 women may in many cases be of equal quality however because she is MORE expensive there are customers who will want the R$500 one.

Is this true, or am I misunderstanding it?

AHighlander
03-11-21, 13:06
With great sadness I'm leaving Brazil after 4 wonderful and joyous months. I've used this site a few times (as well as the local ones) to devour intel and for that I am extremely grateful. My two cents worth after 4 months in this incredible country:

Where to stay.

I was based in Santa Teresa for 2 months, mostly because a friend lent me her beautiful apartment there but also because it's a great area (it's like Lisbon) and ideally located for central, which is a 5-10 min taxi from Santa. I've spent the last couple of months in Sao Conrado (in an airbnb) which is also ideal as it's 10 minutes taxi to Barra or a quick subway or taxi (15-20 minutes) to Copa. Sao Conrado is the optimal beach location I think (and Carioca friends back this up) being similar to Barra (incredibly safe, clean, etc) but much closer to other interesting areas (Leblon, Ipanema, Gavea, etc) - and it has one of the best beaches in Rio. Copa and Ipanema I find too hectic, the chances of petty crime are high there. Each to their own.

Photoacompanhantes.

Can be useful at times, if you filter to see only those with reviews you can be very sure of great service, if not it's 50-50 if they're real or provide half decent service. However, there are some real gems to be found if you get lucky. I like to include this in my mix because it keeps it interesting, you will be burnt from time to time though.

BarraVIPS etc.

Some incredible girls on here but the prices are high (400-600 per hour) compared to other Rio options. It's quite hard to find reviews on the girls because many do this very short-term with fake names. I fucked models and mega influencers (with hundreds of thousands of IG followers) who did a week on the site to fill a gap in their earnings (times are tough) and will probably never do so again. Choose wisely and you can score model standard girls who are 18-20. Private55 can be decent but only if you have reviews to back up your choice (local sites are your best friend).

Prives.

I like the prive model, in particular Creche do Maridos, Onix, and Eden. Easy to walk in, get the presentation, select if you want or walk out. The girls tend to be fairly happy and this is important for me. Expect to pay 100-150 for half an hour, 150-250 for an hour. There are so many, I've probably used 5 or 6 because I get what I need, with more time I'd diversify and check more out. A great area for exploration (I'm going to check out the 116 this week. Thanks Vagabundo for the tip on this one, it sounds fantastic).

Clubs.

Again, each to their own but I hate the club experience (and I love clubs in normal life). Loud shitty music, expensive (compared to the other options), and just a weird vibe. Don't get me wrong, there are some serious hotties to be had, but the experience just doesn't do it for me.

Pornstars.

I had some success searching for Brazilian porn stars and reaching out to them via Twitter. I'm not going to share my IP here but I'll give one small tip: Camila Flowers. You can find her on Xvideos or Twitter, lovely sweet girl who does the full PSE in her apartment near Maracana (her flatmate Izi is lovely too).

Covid.

I had Covid last year and am still full of antibodies, therefore I don't care so much about Covid. I can't explain what a pleasure it has been to spend the last 4 months in a country where, for the most part, people have embraced living vs fear. I don't want to get into a debate about this, we're all entitled to our opinions, but I would rather live my life than live in fear of a virus that factually, scientifically, is not dangerous for 90%+ of the population. I spent a lot of 2020 in Europe and Brazil has been a beautiful counterbalance to the fear and loathing that I experienced there. Many things can kill us, in "the west" (debatable if Brazil should be included in that definition) we're so insulated that any slight risk brings about an absurd reaction, in Brazil (most of) the people know that life is short and there are many risks, as such they live in a somewhat fatalistic manner that has been wonderful to experience.

This is not my first time in Brazil and it won't be my last, I'm considering using the investor visa to buy some property in Rio and spend 3-6 months here every winter. I've been all over the world but I love this country and its beautiful people.

Sperto
03-11-21, 13:14
I get the impression, looking at the online ads, that R$150 and R$500 women may in many cases be of equal quality however because she is MORE expensive there are customers who will want the R$500 one.
Is this true, or am I misunderstanding it?
You can find just as nice quality of girls in a cheap privę as in an expensive terma. It might just take more time to find the privę-gems if you don't know where to look.
Also, you have to consider the brazilian price logic. If the business is going bad and they have few clients, they'll raise the price thinking they'll earn more money.

Sperto
03-11-21, 13:14
Longer opening hours for bars and restaurants, they'll close at 9 PM. IMO opinion a strange decision to make now, considering Brazil just broke new record in covid-19 death toll.

https://odia.ig.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/2021/03/6102058-rio-prorroga-medidas-de-restricoes-ate-22-de-marco.html

HarryDubois
03-11-21, 14:13
You can find just as nice quality of girls in a cheap priv as in an expensive terma. It might just take more time to find the priv-gems if you don't know where to look.
I'm thinking that also. If you have no time to shop around, or if money is no object, you might be better off with the tier 1 termases. However if you are in Rio for a month and are on a budget, it would seem to pay to shop around for a few days and get good quality and good price.

I am a little skeptical about the real low bargain prices at Vila Mimosa or even some ads on www.photoacompanhantes.com for R$60 an hour. Can you get a really hot young girl for that bargain price, or is it pretty likely to be an older, ugly, drugged or starfish provider?

By the way, I am a creature of habit. I will probably shop around a little, find one provider I really enjoy and just stick with her for the entire stay. I wonder if you can bargain for lower prices and / or longer sessions as a repeat customer.

WyattEarp
03-11-21, 15:54
In regards to prostitutes in Rio, I have the impression that there may be something called the Veblen Effect heavily involved.

https://www.monash.edu/business/marketing/marketing-dictionary/v/veblen-effect

This has been studied regarding wine.

https://winefolly.com/tips/is-expensive-wine-worth-it/

https://www.rd.com/article/why-expensive-wine-tastes-better/

In other words, when two different but very similar products have significantly different prices, people will prefer and perhaps even enjoy more the higher priced product even though objectively they are both of equal quality.I think you are overthinking this a bit. I'm not sure wine is a good comparison. There are many more variables with prostitutes.

Sperto is right. If you look hard enough, you can find gems in cheap privęs. If you only have a week in Rio and are comfortable financially, you are likely frequenting top termas and calling high-end escorts. (Hopefully well-reviewed and vetted escorts.).

As far as the variables with garotas, there are factors beyond looks. There are the all-important characteristics personality and performance. These tend to suffer the hotter the garota, but this is not a hard and fast rule. This is especially true if you have the personality and performance to get the best out of a girl. Often I find a hot enough Brazilian girl who is not the hottest girl around, but she is sexy and has a certain spark. If she delivers in bed and out of bed, I tend to hang out with her awhile.

Additionally for fucking on-site at the venue, many guys are going to reject Vila Mimosa and crappy privęs regardless of price. They will pay for a top termas experience. That's why some guys like Sao Paulo's boate Scandallo. They like the high end club experience. And yes, the volume of "hot" girls under one roof is another variable with Rio termas.

Mr Enternational
03-11-21, 16:06
I get the impression, looking at the online ads, that R$150 and R$500 women may in many cases be of equal quality however because she is MORE expensive there are customers who will want the R$500 one.

Is this true, or am I misunderstanding it?A woman is a woman, but in order to test your theory you would have to fuck them under equal conditions. Both with no make up, no fancy clothes, no jazzy hairdo, and in the same bed in the same place at the same time of day.

Maybe for the 500 you are paying for the chick to be all dolled up and not just for sex. Same as for wine you could be paying for the bottle, advertising, and prestige, and not necessarily the liquid inside. If you can get around the marketing aspects, then your answer is right there. There are a lot of shit cars that many people have consistently been paying tons of money for for many many years.

HarryDubois
03-11-21, 17:09
I think you are overthinking this a bit. I'm not sure wine is a good comparison. There are many more variables with prostitutes.For myself personally, I look at youth (legal but younger the better), enthusiasm (more the better), beauty (in the eyes of the beholder, although I think that most men are fairly similar in our tastes). I don't care about the decor of the room or party atmosphere of the brothel.

Having said that, I'm not sure you are getting much for the extra R$350 between the R$150 girl and the R$500, except saving time hunting around for a few days. At least that's what it sounds like to me from this forum and from the online ads. Maybe a real blonde from Rio Grande do Sul, sample photo attached, will invariably cost R$500+, however rumor has it that they lack some enthusiasm, so overall I'm not sure this is higher value. It might be worth it one time for a little variety.

I am uncertain of whether the R$60 girls are worth a try. Maybe there has to be a catch, but I don't know.

WyattEarp
03-11-21, 17:42
Having said that, I'm not sure you are getting much for the extra R$350 between the R$150 girl and the R$500, except saving time hunting around for a few days.The R500+ girls are hotter than the R150 girls. Yes, you can have a great sexual experience with a R150 girl. You can have a poor sexual experience with a R500 girl. No offense, but this discussion is probably a hundred times redundant on this forum. Maybe a thousand times.

This is why there are dozens of escort review sites on the internet.

Bravo
03-11-21, 23:52
Where to stay.

I was based in Santa Teresa for 2 months, mostly because a friend lent me her beautiful apartment there but also because it's a great area (it's like Lisbon) and ideally located for central, which is a 5-10 min taxi from Santa. I've spent the last couple of months in Sao Conrado (in an airbnb) which is also ideal as it's 10 minutes taxi to Barra or a quick subway or taxi (15-20 minutes) to Copa. Sao Conrado is the optimal beach location I think (and Carioca friends back this up) being similar to Barra (incredibly safe, clean, etc) but much closer to other interesting areas (Leblon, Ipanema, Gavea, etc) - and it has one of the best beaches in Rio. Copa and Ipanema I find too hectic, the chances of petty crime are high there. Each to their own.

.How was ST at night. I always heard it was a beautiful location but dangerous to walk around at night. Were their apartments / homes that didn't mind if you had "guests"?

Spidy
03-12-21, 00:02
For myself personally, I look at youth (legal but younger the better), enthusiasm (more the better), beauty (in the eyes of the beholder, although I think that most men are fairly similar in our tastes). I don't care about the decor of the room or party atmosphere of the brothel. . . .

. . . In other words, when two different but very similar products have significantly different prices, people will prefer and perhaps even enjoy more the higher priced product even though objectively they are both of equal quality. . . .
Not too long ago, in the Angeles City thread, I posed basically the same hypothesis on that board. It goes something like this:

I present my "Unattainable P4P Triangle": Side One-FACE, Side Two: Body, Side Three: Good Attitude . These are the three (3) options / variables, I use in my "unattainable Triangle", others may use something else (ie. , Good, Fast, Cheap).

Pick any two (2), but typically you can't have all three (3). For those who have no problem attaining all three (3), on a consistent basis, all the power to you, enjoy. Personally, I try to keep things simple and the more variables you add to the equation, the more more complex and difficult your search will be. But again that's your personal choice.

For me, I'll take "body" and "good attitude", all day long, each and every day and twice on Sundays. As IMHO, I've yet to see too many "ugly" women with great bodies, but I've certainly had my fair share of pretty women with bad attitudes or lack of enthusiasm as you put it.

To each their own. Just enjoy whatever it is you prefer.

Spidy
03-12-21, 00:29
. . . I was based in Santa Teresa for 2 months, mostly because a friend lent me her beautiful apartment there but also because it's a great area (it's like Lisbon) and ideally located for central, which is a 5-10 min taxi from Santa. I've spent the last couple of months in Sao Conrado (in an airbnb) which is also ideal as it's 10 minutes taxi to Barra or a quick subway or taxi (15-20 minutes) to Copa. Sao Conrado is the optimal beach location I think (and Carioca friends back this up) being similar to Barra (incredibly safe, clean, etc) but much closer to other interesting areas (Leblon, Ipanema, Gavea, etc) - and it has one of the best beaches in Rio. . . . Thanks for the report. Definitely a different way to experience P4P in Rio from Santa Teresa as your base.

Just curious though, as to where you spent your evenings and nights? It there enough nightly activity in Santa Teresa to keep things interesting?

Vagabundo1
03-12-21, 00:39
I concur completely with these remarks.

"I don't want to get into a debate about this, we're all entitled to our opinions, but I would rather live my life than live in fear of a virus that factually, scientifically, is not dangerous for 90%+ of the population. I spent a lot of 2020 in Europe and Brazil has been a beautiful counterbalance to the fear and loathing that I experienced there. Many things can kill us, in "the west" (debatable if Brazil should be included in that definition) we're so insulated that any slight risk brings about an absurd reaction, in Brazil (most of) the people know that life is short and there are many risks, as such they live in a somewhat fatalistic manner that has been wonderful to experience."

Since we are in fact in a debate about this, . Well, I will just say now is the optimal time to be in Brazil. Post new years. Post carnival. Back to normal, which is just chilling and netflixing and smoking ganja and banging hot Brazilian women.

Any who, I am here in Transamerica, where I pulled a paulistana and a belem girl out of the pool for apartment entertainment, and Monique is on deck. Pernoite for 300 is my usual rate, with on average 7 pops a day.

Flcn is a fellow ISG member here in the good sex hotel Transamerica, which brings to mind the immortal lyrics of Hotel California.

On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair.

Warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air.

Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light.

My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim.

I had to stop for the night.

There she stood in the doorway;.

I heard the mission bell.

And I was thinking to myself.

"This could be Heaven or this could be Hell".

Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way.

There were voices down the corridor.

I thought I heard them say.

Welcome to the Hotel California.

Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place).

Such a lovely face.

Plenty of room at the Hotel California.

Any time of year (Any time of year).

You can find it here.

Her mind is Tiffany-twisted, she got the Mercedes bends.

She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys she calls friends.

How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat.

Some dance to remember, some dance to forget.

So I called up the Captain.

"Please bring me my wine".

He said, "We haven't had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine".

And still those voices are calling from far away.

Wake you up in the middle of the night.

Just to hear them say.

Welcome to the Hotel California.

Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place).

Such a lovely face.

They livin' it up at the Hotel California.

What a nice surprise (what a nice surprise).

Bring your alibis.

Mirrors on the ceiling.

The pink champagne on ice.

And she said "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device".

And in the master's chambers.

They gathered for the feast.

They stab it with their steely knives.

But they just can't kill the beast.

Last thing I remember, I was.

Running for the door.

I had to find the passage back.

To the place I was before.

"Relax, " said the night man.

"We are programmed to receive.

You can check-out any time you like.

But you can never leave!"


With great sadness I'm leaving Brazil after 4 wonderful and joyous months. I've used this site a few times (as well as the local ones) to devour intel and for that I am extremely grateful. My two cents worth after 4 months in this incredible country:

Where to stay.

I was based in Santa Teresa for 2 months, mostly because a friend lent me her beautiful apartment there but also because it's a great area (it's like Lisbon) and ideally located for central, which is a 5-10 min taxi from Santa. I've spent the last couple of months in Sao Conrado (in an airbnb) which is also ideal as it's 10 minutes taxi to Barra or a quick subway or taxi (15-20 minutes) to Copa. Sao Conrado is the optimal beach location I think (and Carioca friends back this up) being similar to Barra (incredibly safe, clean, etc) but much closer to other interesting areas (Leblon, Ipanema, Gavea, etc) - and it has one of the best beaches in Rio. Copa and Ipanema I find too hectic, the chances of petty crime are high there. Each to their own...

Steve 9696
03-12-21, 00:44
Not too long ago, in the Angeles City thread, I posed basically the same hypothesis on that board. It goes something like this:

I present my "Unattainable P4P Triangle": Side One-FACE, Side Two: Body, Side Three: Good Attitude . These are the three (3) options / variables, I use in my "unattainable Triangle", others may use something else (ie. , Good, Fast, Cheap).

Pick any two (2), but typically you can't have all three (3). For those who have no problem attaining all three (3), on a consistent basis, all the power to you, enjoy. Personally, I try to keep things simple and the more variables you add to the equation, the more more complex and difficult your search will be. But again that's your personal choice.

For me, I'll take "body" and "good attitude", all day long, each and every day and twice on Sundays. As IMHO, I've yet to see too many "ugly" women with great bodies, but I've certainly had my fair share of pretty women with bad attitudes or lack of enthusiasm as you put it.

To each their own. Just enjoy whatever it is you prefer.This is about right but I think I need a fourth performance corner. Maybe you tried to capture that in attitude, but it's different. Like Fortune (London Diva) is absolutely a 9 on body 9 on face and 10 on attitude as close to theoretically good as possible. But her DFK is light and her BJ just OK. So she's a 7 on performance when you bring in that fourth vertex.

That said, even on the four corners scale I had a handful of girls who hit all four corners hard in 2019:

Andressa. Scandallo So Paulo 9999.

Tatiana. Aurora Moscow 9988.

Alexa. Seeking Arrangement Vegas 9988.

Valentina. Seeking Arrangement Buenos Aires 8899.

Megan. Seeking Arrangement NYC 8898.

I consider myself very lucky. This is about 10% of girls I saw. That's pretty amazing because all four corners is a unicorn and unicorns don't happen often. Technically I suppose only Andressa is the true unicorn. 9999. Wow.

Exec Talent
03-12-21, 03:59
With great sadness I'm leaving Brazil after 4 wonderful and joyous months. I've used this site a few times (as well as the local ones) to devour intel and for that I am extremely grateful. My two cents worth after 4 months in this incredible country:Absolutely outstanding review. As someone who has lived among the masses and holds a few near and dear, I concur with your sentiment about Brazilians and how they live life. Not sure I will ever do serious business with them, because of that same live in the moment perspective and seeing more than a few screw over their closest friends, but yeah, to hell with the gloom and doom. Reach out if you do plan on going for the investor visa, I have some pointers. Again, outstanding review.

Vagabundo1
03-12-21, 05:49
I classify the morena paulistana callsign Kamila, and the Belem Morena callsign Belem.

My intent is to dupla the targets.

I have just blown third load of pernoite up Monique's passage.

We stepped out to AMPM between second and third loads.

Dropped 150 reais there for food.

All is well in Rio.

Vagabundo Sends.

FOUO NOFORN.


I concur completely with these remarks.

"I don't want to get into a debate about this, we're all entitled to our opinions, but I would rather live my life than live in fear of a virus that factually, scientifically, is not dangerous for 90%+ of the population. I spent a lot of 2020 in Europe and Brazil has been a beautiful counterbalance to the fear and loathing that I experienced there. Many things can kill us, in "the west" (debatable if Brazil should be included in that definition) we're so insulated that any slight risk brings about an absurd reaction, in Brazil (most of) the people know that life is short and there are many risks, as such they live in a somewhat fatalistic manner that has been wonderful to experience.

Xpartan
03-12-21, 07:49
I get the impression, looking at the online ads, that R$150 and R$500 women may in many cases be of equal quality however because she is MORE expensive there are customers who will want the R$500 one.

Is this true, or am I misunderstanding it?I think it's a little more than that.

Other things being equal, you might expect more sophistication from a R$500 GDP, not necessarily more hotness. Performance-wise, they might know better the buttons, emotional and physical, they need to push to keep you happy. That may or may not be something you're willing to pay a premium for. I've had great performances from inexpensive girls (this is Rio, after all), but then I don't mind giving directions when I need to. So if you're just interested in a physical aspect of a job, I don't believe the difference in price is worth it. However, if you want to talk and feel the connection (illusory, as might be), and maybe take her out for dinner and expect she'll know not to wear hooker clothing to a nice restaurant, then the higher fee might be worth it.

AHighlander
03-12-21, 17:05
I should have added that, if I wasn't here in Rio with my girlfriend (yikes), I would almost certainly be living a happy life in Transamerica, just not sure she'd appreciate its charms I've been there often and it is a magical place. Haha very much the Hotel California. Standing in reception awaiting the room number (this process takes forever of course) I have witnessed some magnificent specimens. Hard to approach them in the maelstrom of girls picking things up from reception and guys coming and going, however I'm guessing if you're based there you can easily hook up with / befriend these beauties. Many of which I never see on the usual sites! A real goldmine.

And yes I much prefer Rio post-Christmas and post-carnival when things revert to a calm, chill, weed-infused heavenly flow. I could spend years in that flow but am being dragged away against my will (by GF) to Mexico and then (the horror) back to locked-down Europe. I'll return by November though. Hopefully with some permanence! I could easily live in Rio, either part-time (6 months here, 6 months in Europe sounds amazing) or full-time. It fast became my favourite city.


I concur completely with these remarks.

"I don't want to get into a debate about this, we're all entitled to our opinions, but I would rather live my life than live in fear of a virus that factually, scientifically, is not dangerous for 90%+ of the population. I spent a lot of 2020 in Europe and Brazil has been a beautiful counterbalance to the fear and loathing that I experienced there. Many things can kill us, in "the west" (debatable if Brazil should be included in that definition) we're so insulated that any slight risk brings about an absurd reaction, in Brazil (most of) the people know that life is short and there are many risks, as such they live in a somewhat fatalistic manner that has been wonderful to experience.

AHighlander
03-12-21, 17:08
Haha yes I haven't done any business here (yet) but I can imagine the upside in their character could become downside very quickly. But wow there's so much here that I love, E. G I've been to the federal police 3 x times in an effort to extend my visa, this should be super easy and done online but of course in Brazil it is bureaucratic and slow. However I never complain, the benefits here are just so compelling vs the downsides.

Thanks for offer on the investor visa. I will definitely reach out when I push the button on that!


Absolutely outstanding review. As someone who has lived among the masses and holds a few near and dear, I concur with your sentiment about Brazilians and how they live life. Not sure I will ever do serious business with them, because of that same live in the moment perspective and seeing more than a few screw over their closest friends, but yeah, to hell with the gloom and doom. Reach out if you do plan on going for the investor visa, I have some pointers. Again, outstanding review.

AHighlander
03-12-21, 17:14
Santa definitely varies depending on which part, the lower area around Lapa is extremely sketchy (e. G. My taxi was bombarded by cracked-up lunatics trying to pull me and driver out of the car to do god knows what on a Lapa street at 1 pm!) but I was living on the top of the hill near the famous Aprazival restaurant. This area is quite upmarket and super hip, there are great restaurants / bars (Bar do Gomes and Bar do Minero being classics) and it is super safe. Interestingly, BOPE's (the Rio special forces police) HQ / training ground is on that hill so a) you hear them training with automatic weapons, grenades, etc. All day and night b) it keeps it pretty safe as these badasses are often cruising around.

The only real downside of Santa is that the beach is min 20 minutes away, and if you're in Rio for a holiday you kinda want to be near the beach, right? If I was to live in Rio I'd consider Santa though as property is cheaper and it's a cool area.


Thanks for the report. Definitely a different way to experience P4P in Rio from Santa Teresa as your base.

Just curious though, as to where you spent your evenings and nights? It there enough nightly activity in Santa Teresa to keep things interesting?

AHighlander
03-12-21, 17:15
I'm not sure, I was living in my friend's apartment with my GF so I never had any guests.

There are tons of apartments on Airbnb though and unlike Copa or Ipa etc there almost certainly won't be a porter / reception, so I guess pretty chill.


How was ST at night. I always heard it was a beautiful location but dangerous to walk around at night. Were their apartments / homes that didn't mind if you had "guests"?

AHighlander
03-12-21, 17:23
Super interesting and definitely valid in this context.

I pay 500-600 for 18-20 year old super hot girls because, hey, life is short. These are model quality girls and genuinely 18-19 - that one can pay to fuck such a princess (for under $1000) is rare and wonderful. The thing is, their service invariably sucks. I know it will suck, I had one yesterday at Transamerica who was 18 and from SP. Super hot girl, amazing body, etc. Etc. But she fucked like it was her 1st or 2nd time (I. E. Not good! On balance I'm still happy to include this in my mix (once per week) because damn these young girls are hot.

On the other hand I can pay 150 for a 18-20 year old who is still hot but not model hot. This girl will be a PRO at sucking and fucking, she may do anal, and she isn't by any standards bad looking, she's a 7-8 on my scale. On balance, this makes the most sense to me value-wise and quality / service-wise and that's why my daily diet is this kind of girl.

But sometimes you just want the innocent 18 year old!


In regards to prostitutes in Rio, I have the impression that there may be something called the Veblen Effect heavily involved.

https://www.monash.edu/business/marketing/marketing-dictionary/v/veblen-effect

This has been studied regarding wine.

https://winefolly.com/tips/is-expensive-wine-worth-it/

https://www.rd.com/article/why-expensive-wine-tastes-better/.

JohnnyWalker55
03-13-21, 00:00
New round of prives here, have gone to and fucked at all of them. Sexy hot is pretty crazy, the address cut off in the picture but it's av 13 maio 33 #3206.32nd floor so you have a view of the entire city and bay while you fuck it's nice. Tbh haven't had a bad experience at all here with any chick. All the girls are really good acctresses / and / or / enjoy the sex, at the shithole uruguiana 24 today a girl came during cowgirl, it was great. Probably cause I got there early and she wasnt worn out.

Prices are mostly 15 min 50 k, 20 min 60-70 k, 30 min 80-100 k, 40 min 120-140 k, 60 min 140-80 k at these places. Terapias like dudas, zen terapia, onix are more expensive side but worth it for the cabin and chica, more spinners at the terapias. Prives have the classic brazillian ass I've found. And it's not even fat, it's like muscle / thick. Can't find that in the states, must be the feiajao.

Talk to the elevator guys at these predios because they will show you all new rooms, they know everything. Just got a good tip at 1115 rio branco 185 from the elevator guy, didn't get the places name though. GFE, DFK, etc. Recommend. They know why we're there, don't try to be coy kkkk.

I've also found it helps for the GFE if you shower everytime you get there, even if you already showered before. That way they just know you're clean.

Oh, and of the 25 -35 girls I've fucked, only 1 didn't do BBBJ! Fuck right. I find it hard to last when they give that great bbj for 5-10 min before fucking, got to pace urself.

Sperto
03-13-21, 00:43
New round of prives here, have gone to and fucked at all of them. Sexy hot is pretty crazy, the address cut off in the picture but it's av 13 maio 33One advice regarding Treze de Maio 33. There are a dozen of guys handing out cards to prives outside the building. They mostly works for the worst privées, the ones on your cards.

You are much better of studying Gpguia and Gpgarena, make notes, go to Treze de Maio 33. Go to the top floor and work yourself downstairs, using the fire-stairs as the elevators are complicated in that building. Privées open and close quickly in TdM 33.

JohnnyWalker55
03-13-21, 01:05
One advice regarding Treze de Maio 33. There are a dozen of guys handing out cards to prives outside the building. They mostly works for the worst prives, the ones on your cards.

You are much better of studying Gpguia and Gpgarena, make notes, go to Treze de Maio 33. Go to the top floor and work yourself downstairs, using the fire-stairs as the elevators are complicated in that building. Prives open and close quickly in TdM 33.Yep, they always try and lead you in there too, when it's not that hard to find them once inside. It gets so fucking hot in the stairs, I end up just waiting for the elevators.

And thanks, I found gparena.net on pg 250 something on the forum, the recent relatos are a huge help for filtering photoacompanhantes and prives. I cross reference the prive / terapia post of the locals with your guide you put out, this one, just part of it:

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The big 5: Definitely worth checking out while in Rio. A must! (Anal usually are $50 extra). Prices listed below may vary by are $10, prices just keep going up.

Bel Prazer (2517-0879) Av Rio Branco 185 Sala 2114. http://www.belprazer.com/ (R $110 60 mins).

Bellas Massagem (2215-4199) Av Rio Branco 185 Sala 725 http://www.bellasmassagens.com/.

Duda (2517-1656) Av Rio Branco 156 Sala 3320 (R $85 40 mins, are $115 60 minutes).

Nova Massagem (2215-3553) Casa 19. Rua the Conceio, and 19 http://novamassagem.com/ (same owners as Bel Prazer and same price).

Lokal Zen Av treze de Maio, 33. Sala 2414. http://lokalzen.com/ (R $100 60 mins).

The entrance is off Travessa dos Poetas de calada, you need to go to the second floor to catch the crappy o.

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Along with the cabin ratings. Some of them are closed now but it's fun checking which is open LOL.

Anyways, these are the terapias I cross referenced from int sex guide with gparenta, haven't been to all yet but most have been great. for any mongers coming thru:
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Anitta's. Prive*.

Description.

Av Rio Branco 185, Sala 1722.10 Garotas. Prices: 60 reals 20 minutes, 100 reals for 30 minutes. Tel: +55 21 99577-8126,2125446189, 2199739-73. Hours: 11 am to 20:00. *.

Espao Shiva Terapias.

Description.

Av. Rio Branco, 181, Sala 104.15 Garotas.

Price: are $150 Hour. Tel: +55 (21) 99987-0633. Hours: Monday to Friday 11 am to 19:00. *.

M & M Massage.

Description.

Av. Rio Branco 185, Sala 405. Centro. 4 Garotas. Prices: are $100-150. Tel: (21) 9760-70242,*(21) 3923-835. Hours:

Bel Prazer. Prive.

Description.

Rio Branca,185, Sala 2114, Centro, 20th floor then walking up one floor. Some big time winners and many doable ones. Big surprise. *10-15 Garotas. Prices: are $110 20 min, are $130 40 min. , are $160 hour. Tel: WhatsApp +55 21 99887.

LOKAL ZEN.

Description.

Av. 13 de Maio, 33 - sala 2414, Centro. 10+ Garotas. Prices: are $80 30 min. , are $120 hour. Tel: 212 220 2540/219 6654 4828. Hours: _ *.

FLvia Massagens.

Description.

Av. Rio Branco, 156 - 1018 - Centro. __ Garotas. Prices: are $100 30 min. Tel: (21) 99550-0693. Hours: _.

KLASS MASSAGEM.

Description.

Av. Rio Branco, 156 - sl. 1439, Centro. 12 Garotas. Prices: are $120+ Hour. Tel: _ Hours: _ *.

Diva's Massagens /*CENTRO BELLAS.

Description.

Av. Rio Branco 156, sala 1833,7 Garotas. Prices: are $80. Tel: (21) 2081-6493. Hours: Monday to Friday 10 am to 7.

Depressed -*STUDIO MEL ESTETICA CORPORAL E FACIAL.

Description.

Av. Rio Branco 156, # 1809. GPS: -22.9070683, -43.1775715 Prices: are $20* 20 Min. , are $100 hour Tel: 99020-1091. * Hours: _ *.


CALNDULA MASSAGEM60min 150

Av. Rio Branco, 156 - sala 906, Centro


[PRIV] DELIRIUS URBANUS60 min 100

Av. Rio Branco, 156 - sala 520, Centro

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just got back from riobranco 185 #1722, all 8's, 60 min 150. didnt get name, elevator guy showed me

Vagabundo1
03-13-21, 01:15
Well Monique and I did hula hula and barra posto 7 beach.

Swam at the yellow flag.

278 reais for lunch and drinks.

Smoked weed on the beach in barra like city of god the movie.

Went to recreio. Awesome.

Tried to get up to nude beach at grumari but ran out of daylight.

Came back to Transamerica.

Fucked to Ana foxxx kink.com.

Rappi for big Macs.

Will fuck. Pernoite too.


I should have added that, if I wasn't here in Rio with my girlfriend (yikes), I would almost certainly be living a happy life in Transamerica, just not sure she'd appreciate its charms I've been there often and it is a magical place. Haha very much the Hotel California. Standing in reception awaiting the room number (this process takes forever of course) I have witnessed some magnificent specimens. Hard to approach them in the maelstrom of girls picking things up from reception and guys coming and going, however I'm guessing if you're based there you can easily hook up with / befriend these beauties. Many of which I never see on the usual sites! A real goldmine.

And yes I much prefer Rio post-Christmas and post-carnival when things revert to a calm, chill, weed-infused heavenly flow. I could spend years in that flow but am being dragged away against my will (by GF) to Mexico and then (the horror) back to locked-down Europe. I'll return by November though. Hopefully with some permanence! I could easily live in Rio, either part-time (6 months here, 6 months in Europe sounds amazing) or full-time. It fast became my favourite city.

Member #4682
03-13-21, 03:15
With great sadness I'm leaving Brazil after 4 wonderful and joyous months.

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I had Covid last year and am still full of antibodies, therefore I don't care so much about Covid. I can't explain what a pleasure it has been to spend the last 4 months in a country where, for the most part, people have embraced living vs fear. I don't want to get into a debate about this, we're all entitled to our opinions, but I would rather live my life than live in fear of a virus that factually, scientifically, is not dangerous for 90%+ of the population. I spent a lot of 2020 in Europe and Brazil has been a beautiful counterbalance to the fear and loathing that I experienced there. Many things can kill us, in "the west" (debatable if Brazil should be included in that definition) we're so insulated that any slight risk brings about an absurd reaction, in Brazil (most of) the people know that life is short and there are many risks, as such they live in a somewhat fatalistic manner that has been wonderful to experience.Hey AHighlander,

Thank you for your post, brought back many good memories! I spent quite a bit of time in Rio, and always had a rollicking good time. I have to admit that I never spent more than 2 months consecutively in Brazil, so you clearly have the leg up in terms of experience. My experience with the GdPs is also much more limited, because I have always been able to pull from the local bars and dance halls. I have been in Rio five times, but never went to a terma believe it or not. But I have to say, in my opinion there is nothing that compares to being 'objectified' by a Brazilian non-pro!

I concur with you about the "life versus fear" attitude in Brazil (on average, I should say). I met many Brazilians facing total hardship every day, but they were happy and positive people. When coming back to the 'first world', there was never a shortage of well-to-do folk being miserable, for some really BS reasons IMHO. But over time, I learned that the Brazilian "tanto faz!" attitude is a double-edged sword. There is the stoic version in the sense of "there is nothing I can do about it, so I am not going to worry about it", which I totally admire. But there is also the "I don't give a shit about what happens to others" version, which I have also seen many a times.

I see where you are coming from. Being previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 makes it very unlikely for you get infected again (at least for quite a while), but there is also increasing evidence that you are much less likely to be an asymptomatic carrier who can infect others, so very similar to being vaccinated. Right on! That said. It is true that for 90%+ of the newly infected the consequences are benign, but someone who gets infected can be a carrier who passes it on to some cancer survivor down the line who then kicks the bucket. Some BM posted a video here from Barra a little while ago where in essence no-one gave a s* about wearing a mask, and given where we are, undoubtedly the majority of these people had not been vaccinated and / or been previously infected. As much as I love the country, that rubbed me the wrong way. And if you look at the recent numbers, the shit is about to hit the fan for real. So I think the question of "life versus fear" is also a question of what price you are willing to pay, and how likely you think it is your number will be called. As far as I can tell, I have not been infected yet, so I am OK with blue balls for now. Once I am vaccinated, I'll be on the road again.

Sperto
03-13-21, 09:37
It gets so fucking hot in the stairs, I end up just waiting for the elevators.
Stairs need some comments. I always carry a long privč-list with me when I'm in Rio. To reach the privées I want to visit it's often best to take the elevator to the top floor and work my way down using the stairs. The alternative is to return to the the ground floor and que for another elevator, as the elevator just serves some floors.

Rio Branco 156: A very good building to use the stairs. There are two stairs. Very easy for running down. The janitors often hang out in the stairs. They know all the privées.

Rio Branco 185: This isn't a good building to use the stairs. The stairs make the building easy-navigated. The problem is the porteiros on the ground floor who monitors all the floors, some of them are a pain in the ass. If you use the stairs they will yell in the loudspeakers (on the different floors) and tell that it's forbidden to hang out in the corridors. Very annoying. The good thing is that some of the guys working the elevators are a very valuable source of information. I have one elevator buddy in RB185. He knows every privę in the building and all the girls who works at the privées. When it's just me and him in the elevator he'll give me the latest information on the new hottest girls. Often he's very interested to hear what I think about the newbies.

Avenida Treze de Maio 33. This is a confusing building. The elevators are located on three different spots. On the bottom floor, the second floor (reached by escalators) and also in the end of the building. The elevator ques are often very long and the elevators are extremely slow. The stairs in TDM33 are very good. Easy to run downstairs.

Rua Uruguaiana 24. This isn't a big building and there are no elevator options, but it still need an advice. Before you enter the building you pick up a flyer in the pharmacy on the other side of the street. Enter the building, make a stop half a stair up to let your eyes get used to the darkness in the stairs and when you go up and down never touch the railings. The railings are superfilthy of dirt and sperm (there are no showers for the customers). If you need to touch the railings, use the flyer you brought.

P.S Rua Buenos Aires 85. This privę building is history. It used to be an excellent trash-privč-building. Five floors with cheap privées with often very good quality. Anyway, the spiral stairs at RBA85 were the worst you could imagine. Extremely narrow and with incredibly dirty railings (rust, sperm and god knows what else). Meeting a fat guy in those stairs were mission impossible.

Vagabundo1
03-13-21, 13:52
Sounds like.

1 great porn location.

2 great gamer location, ie ready player 1, go bang 25 hookers.

Both.

Haha.

Monique and I are waiting for cappuccino from rappi.

We riofornicated to kira noir bound gangbang and are watching comedy and smoking grass.

Groovy man.


Stairs need some comments. I always carry a long priv-list with me when I'm in Rio. To reach the prives I want to visit it's often best to take the elevator to the top floor and work my way down using the stairs. The alternative is to return to the the ground floor and que for another elevator, as the elevator just serves some floors.

Rio Branco 156: A very good building to use the stairs. There are two stairs. Very easy for running down. The janitors often hang out in the stairs. They know all the prives.

Rio Branco 185: This isn't a good building to use the stairs. The stairs make the building easy-navigated. The problem is the porteiros on the ground floor who monitors all the floors, some of them are a pain in the ass. If you use the stairs they will yell in the loudspeakers (on the different floors) and tell that it's forbidden to hang out in the corridors. Very annoying. The good thing is that some of the guys working the elevators are a very valuable source of information. I have one elevator buddy in RB185. He knows every priv in the building and all the girls who works at the prives. When it's just me and him in the elevator he'll give me the latest information on the new hottest girls. Often he's very interested to hear what I think about the newbies..

Mr Enternational
03-13-21, 15:11
P.S Rua Buenos Aires 85. This priv building is history. It used to be an excellent trash-priv-building. Five floors with cheap prives with often very good quality. Anyway, the spiral stairs at RBA85 were the worst you could imagine. Extremely narrow and with incredibly dirty railings (rust, sperm and god knows what else). Meeting a fat guy in those stairs were mission impossible.And sometimes the sixth floor would be open for business as well.

The Cane
03-13-21, 15:29
Jizz on the railings? I think I'd rather go to Vila Mimosa! I say again. Eeeeewww, eeeeewwwww, eeeeewwww! LOL!

Bravo
03-13-21, 20:30
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P.S Rua Buenos Aires 85. This priv building is history. It used to be an excellent trash-priv-building. Five floors with cheap prives with often very good quality. Anyway, the spiral stairs at RBA85 were the worst you could imagine. Extremely narrow and with incredibly dirty railings (rust, sperm and god knows what else). Meeting a fat guy in those stairs were mission impossible.I HATED those damn stairs!! I was always paranoid that everyone in that entire building would die if there was ever a fire!! Thanks for the tip on using a flyer when holding on to the railing.

On a side note: I Have never been able to get an elevator operator to talk to me about any of the prives. A few times I have waited till it was only the 2 of us and I would ask if there were any new big booty girls working (I love the Rainha de Bateria bodies) and they would just look at me like I had 3 heads. After a couple of trips, I just gave up.

Vagabundo1
03-13-21, 22:25
Monique and I went to the nude beach.

260 for drinks and food.

Priceless is taking your girl to a nude beach and banging afterwards.

Flcn says I'm. Fucking all day.

Tis so!

Vagabundo1
03-14-21, 00:00
I banged Monique two times after getting back from the nude beach which she liked.

I liked banging her.

Flcn keeps. Asking me to get various pharma products and sometimes cash because he's low on his own supply or he loses his card.

It's like californication, here at hotel California.


Well Monique and I did hula hula and barra posto 7 beach.

Swam at the yellow flag.

278 reais for lunch and drinks.

Smoked weed on the beach in barra like city of god the movie.

Went to recreio. Awesome.

Tried to get up to nude beach at grumari but ran out of daylight.

Came back to Transamerica.

Fucked to Ana foxxx kink.com.

Rappi for big Macs.

Will fuck. Pernoite too.

Vagabundo1
03-14-21, 01:00
Another reason for gloves.

Haha.

Medical gloves are key to good oral sex.

G spot, come hither.

Google it.


And sometimes the sixth floor would be open for business as well.

Vagabundo1
03-14-21, 03:10
So I paid Monique 500 for 2.5 days and two pernoites starting Wednesday 17h to Saturday at 21h.

2 pops Thursday.

5 Friday.

4 Saturday.

45 reais per orgasm.

Plus food, drinks, ganja, 99 rides 800.

I need to start a reality show.


I banged Monique two times after getting back from the nude beach which she liked.

I liked banging her.

Flcn keeps. Asking me to get various pharma products and sometimes cash because he's low on his own supply or he loses his card.

It's like californication, here at hotel California.

Spidy
03-14-21, 07:02
This is about right but I think I need a fourth performance corner. Maybe you tried to capture that in attitude, but it's different. Like Fortune (London Diva) is absolutely a 9 on body 9 on face and 10 on attitude as close to theoretically good as possible. But her DFK is light and her BJ just OK. So she's a 7 on performance when you bring in that fourth vertex.

That said, even on the four corners scale I had a handful of girls who hit all four corners hard in 2019:

Andressa. Scandallo So Paulo 9999.

Tatiana. Aurora Moscow 9988.

Alexa. Seeking Arrangement Vegas 9988.

Valentina. Seeking Arrangement Buenos Aires 8899.

Megan. Seeking Arrangement NYC 8898.

I consider myself very lucky. This is about 10% of girls I saw. That's pretty amazing because all four corners is a unicorn and unicorns don't happen often. Technically I suppose only Andressa is the true unicorn. 9999. Wow.Steve, the "performance" metric, is a definite must have, but only after or post "the dirty deed". For the most part, I use my triangle (face-body-attitude) to gauge the women of interest, pre "the dirty deed".

Again, "body" and "attitude" is the very least and a must have for me to do the deed.

Mr Enternational
03-15-21, 04:09
P.S Rua Buenos Aires 85. This priv building is history. It used to be an excellent trash-priv-building. Five floors with cheap prives with often very good quality. Anyway, the spiral stairs at RBA85 were the worst you could imagine. Extremely narrow and with incredibly dirty railings (rust, sperm and god knows what else). Meeting a fat guy in those stairs were mission impossible.Just came across these. Took them in 2014 after the old girl closed her doors. Sure I posted them back then as well.

Xpartan
03-15-21, 05:54
Monique and I went to the nude beach.

260 for drinks and food.

Priceless is taking your girl to a nude beach and banging afterwards.

Flcn says I'm. Fucking all day.

Tis so!Was it busy, any eye candy?

Vagabundo1
03-15-21, 12:26
It was busy, but only 20% female. The females who were there were very hot negras and mulatas mainly.

I had become interested in a trip to Praia Grumari after seeing it as a location for the beach pictures of my top girls, like Rihanna Noir (who apparently is in the hospital with the rona). When I asked around the pool bar about Praia Grumari, everyone kept saying it is a praia nudismo. When I asked Monique about it, she was super excited and motivated, so I figured WTF. The actual nude beach is small, the eastern half of Praia Abrico, Praia Abrico being to the East of Grumari, which is a large beach, maybe a full kilometer or more. The drive to Grumari is really nice, over low rolling hills. There are no gringos. The scenery in the Western half of Barra (P7 - 12, and then Grumari) looks more like Hawaii than anything I've seen in Brazil. Half of Praia Abrico is regular, clothed, and has a very cool Beach Club bar area with cabanas. The construction is very low key and local, using local materials, etc. So, in summary, there is a ton of the best beach eye candy in the regular clothed areas of Praia Abrico and Praia Grumari. Since Monique enjoyed running around butt nekid, and we banged before and after back at my place (and swam around and bumped peepees), I had a good time, but I would only go back with a girl. If you make it down as far as Grumari, you may as well make a few days of it and go to Ihla Grande because you're halfway there.


Was it busy, any eye candy?

Member #4698
03-15-21, 14:36
It was busy, but only 20% female. The females who were there were very hot negras and mulatas mainly.

I had become interested in a trip to Praia Grumari after seeing it as a location for the beach pictures of my top girls, like Rihanna Noir (who apparently is in the hospital with the rona). When I asked around the pool bar about Praia Grumari, everyone kept saying it is a praia nudismo. When I asked Monique about it, she was super excited and motivated, so I figured WTF. The actual nude beach is small, the eastern half of Praia Abrico, Praia Abrico being to the East of Grumari, which is a large beach, maybe a full kilometer or more. The drive to Grumari is really nice, over low rolling hills. There are no gringos. The scenery in the Western half of Barra (P7 - 12, and then Grumari) looks more like Hawaii than anything I've seen in Brazil. Half of Praia Abrico is regular, clothed, and has a very cool Beach Club bar area with cabanas. The construction is very low key and local, using local materials, etc. So, in summary, there is a ton of the best beach eye candy in the regular clothed areas of Praia Abrico and Praia Grumari. Since Monique enjoyed running around butt nekid, and we banged before and after back at my place (and swam around and bumped peepees), I had a good time, but I would only go back with a girl. If you make it down as far as Grumari, you may as well make a few days of it and go to Ihla Grande because you're halfway there.During the research phase of my trip planning I became interested in Restinga the Marambaia and Praia Grumari due to my preference for more natural beaches and a desire to get away from the crowds. The pictures synced it. So I have rented a car for my last weekend in Rio before I hit SP. I plan to rent a car and spend a day or two on Praia Grumari with a favorite new girl on the 2nd day. Restinga the Marambaia also caught my eye, but sadly is not open for car travel. I wonder if people are allowed there by boat? As for Ihla Grande, that beautiful island will have to wait for a proposed 2nd trip in October which is looking more likely every day due to the slow roll out of vaccines in LOS.

I can't wait until I arrive in Rio. I know the town is not as lively as it was a year and a half ago, but the girls are still there. It's will be my pleasure to find them.

Vagabundo1
03-16-21, 00:19
Grumari. Further thoughts, lessons learned.

1. Waterproof everything. Those neck pendants with a compartment that is clear for a cell phone are essential, as are the GoPro scuba housing fixed with a length of 550 parachute cord to make it a pendant too. Both of those items I kept with me in my "shoulder holster" hiking buttpack (local brand trilhas and rumos, bought on Rua Alfandega between Uruguiana metro and 502, the scuba dive shop where you can also buy a spear gun and get your james bond on if you happen to not have a Walther PPK or Glock 43 size pistol; in the police shop across from the Federal Police station on Rua Gomes Freire you can also buy a plate carrier for body armor (lowest one was 180 reais), a cattle prod shocker for 75 reais), and a civil police golf shirt). I took out all my peripherals, like earphones, bluetooth phones, etc, and laid them on my Bombeiros Militar shorts when I went swimming. It's not that I don't trust Monique, but I don't trust Monique, or, for that matter the rest of the locals on the beach. Monique doesn't have a cell phone, and much as I like her ass and pussy's resemblance to the pornstar Monique, that indicates that she probably has been a theft victim; that and the kind of endearing, but slightly tweaked look on her eyes and smile that looks like she has taken a punch or two, which breaks my heart as her lover, but which again, indicates that she's not going to win a fight to protect my property. In addition to the inner shorts and outside pocket-ed Bombeiros Militar shorts I wore I also wore a red rash guard / UV protection long sleeved swim shirt. I wear local fireman gear again, for a little more protection on the theory that if I keep my gringo mouth shut in the first 15 seconds a criminal walks by me, he will choose another victim than a member of the state civil service, which even the lifeguard at your pool is. I did forget my rio lifeguard cap, but makes a nice part of the essentail beach gearlist; the red boonie cover grupo maritimo is best for sun days, and has the added benefit of not being a negative in any sense to the criminals, which the bombeiro militar cloths might be. Grupo Maritimo is just the coast guard, there to save lives on the sea, ditto rio lifeguards.

2. OK, the reason I mention this is because being nekkid is not optional on the praia nudismo. A man from the association in a green ball cap and nothing else comes up to you a few minutes after your waiter or waitress (there were nude waitresses, which is something I could get used to; just need to make it only females nude, not both sexes) gets your beach chair and umbrella and basically says, take it all off, and it is posted when you go in that past this point everything is nude. Well, I was one of about 8 guys there with a nude girl, like bringing your own bottle of wine to the party.

3. Monique, who has a 6 face, has a 8-9 body. She's a 23 year old dopple ganger for the black pornstar monique. My uncut sausage loves her holes, and that's all that I really care about with respect to callsign monique. So we ordered mocueqa, but of course they screwed us, instead of a mocuequa with corvina for 100 r, which is healthy, they deep fried the fish and the fries. But she loved it, it is like the equivalent of taking your favorite hooker to a swing festa. It's a big bonus for her. It was like that swing bar, club mix in Praca XV in that regard -- IE how it was a positive for her. I mean, hookers are surrounded by random naked men and women all day, and this was pretty much the same.

4. So, in my shoulder holster hiking pack, if I had enough forethought, I could have waterproofed all the peripherals so I could go swimming with all my gear. But nothing got stolen from the beach so it was OK. I would have worn one less layer of shorts -- just the shorts with the pockets, where I keep my leather fireman gloves which I mentioned before. I wore my velcro / fake leather / sandels with a backstrap, which I bought for 70 reais in one of the shoe stores on av passos near alfandega near Metro Uruguiana / Vargas. These sandals work great, and one can swim fine in them.

5. So there you have it. Oh, of course I wore swim goggles, and if you want to take underwater pictures of your girl, I recommend taking two pairs of swim goggles, but that is extra credit and a digression.

6. As far as nude beaches go, monique informs me that there is also a nude beach on Ihla Governador near GIG airport, but of course I would not swim there. Of course, swimming was awesome at Praia grumari, to include making out, having some underwater sex in the surf. It's a really nice beach as far as swimming goes.

7. Recreio in general and that area around Grumari needless to say is super high risk as it is locals only and high crime. I only carried one of my 3 cell phones having left the others in my room under lock, which is how ISG mandingoblack rolls, and is a rule that bubba boy's guide recommends (only carry stuff you can have stolen in high risk areas, and if you are threatened with a weapon, be ready to just give up the stuff). My "shoulder holster" pack has a capacity of about 2.5 liters, enough for a 750 ML bottle of Jameson's as I mentioned, as well as a sheath knife. But I am probably not going to get into a knife fight to keep my stuff if a criminal threatens me with a knife, and definitely not with a gun.

8. Monique was my guide, of course, and she doesn't want me to get robbed either, since that's her ride back, and in the event, it all went fine.

9. No photos are permitted of course, so you have to be careful about taking pictures of yourself and your girl. Best to take pics in the surf, and to sit back near the rocks for this reason.


During the research phase of my trip planning I became interested in Restinga the Marambaia and Praia Grumari due to my preference for more natural beaches and a desire to get away from the crowds. The pictures synced it. So I have rented a car for my last weekend in Rio before I hit SP. I plan to rent a car and spend a day or two on Praia Grumari with a favorite new girl on the 2nd day. Restinga the Marambaia also caught my eye, but sadly is not open for car travel. I wonder if people are allowed there by boat? As for Ihla Grande, that beautiful island will have to wait for a proposed 2nd trip in October which is looking more likely every day due to the slow roll out of vaccines in LOS.

I can't wait until I arrive in Rio. I know the town is not as lively as it was a year and a half ago, but the girls are still there. It's will be my pleasure to find them.

Jrealyo
03-16-21, 00:27
Check your PM Vagabundo.


It was busy, but only 20% female. The females who were there were very hot negras and mulatas mainly.

I had become interested in a trip to Praia Grumari after seeing it as a location for the beach pictures of my top girls, like Rihanna Noir (who apparently is in the hospital with the rona). When I asked around the pool bar about Praia Grumari, everyone kept saying it is a praia nudismo. When I asked Monique about it, she was super excited and motivated, so I figured WTF. The actual nude beach is small, the eastern half of Praia Abrico, Praia Abrico being to the East of Grumari, which is a large beach, maybe a full kilometer or more. The drive to Grumari is really nice, over low rolling hills. There are no gringos. The scenery in the Western half of Barra (P7 - 12, and then Grumari) looks more like Hawaii than anything I've seen in Brazil. Half of Praia Abrico is regular, clothed, and has a very cool Beach Club bar area with cabanas. The construction is very low key and local, using local materials, etc. So, in summary, there is a ton of the best beach eye candy in the regular clothed areas of Praia Abrico and Praia Grumari. Since Monique enjoyed running around butt nekid, and we banged before and after back at my place (and swam around and bumped peepees), I had a good time, but I would only go back with a girl. If you make it down as far as Grumari, you may as well make a few days of it and go to Ihla Grande because you're halfway there.

Vagabundo1
03-16-21, 02:53
I went to Treze de maio 33 / sala 3206 today at 13 h.

In short, there were 4 girls, all 3's -- fat, not big asses, just fat; flabby bodies; no attractive faces.

Vagabundo doesn't need 9's and above. Not in a prive. A hard bodied, 18 year old works.

Not one worth doing.

I did check out the infamous protein shake rail covered staircases, and I can see how the stairs would be a good option, but I did not have a map of the good salas.

Thus, I need to research gpguia, gparena, forumx, etc.

There was no special registration required for TDM33. In RB156, one must go to some front desk where one gets a pass of some sort to go up to the floors via elevator.

I did find some technology sources, and since this is a technology enabled platform, I may post some of my possible choices for a gamer quality laptop or desktop.

I need to brush off my old lists of centro and other area prives, to include barra. The best spartan senor sperto procedure is to source talent from the prives through diligent apresentacaos, which is also work / exercise and a good reason to ingest lots of coconut water, water, and the excellent local pharma engov, which apparently has some medicine unique to Brazil.

Golfinho
03-16-21, 03:16
Check your PM Vagabundo.Nudismo beaches in Brazil are notoriously infested with homosexuals, tv's and the like. But, you may get lucky.

Xpartan
03-16-21, 06:10
It was busy, but only 20% female. The females who were there were very hot negras and mulatas mainly ... I would only go back with a girl. If you make it down as far as Grumari, you may as well make a few days of it and go to Ihla Grande because you're halfway there.Yeah, I suspected it'd be more like a sausage fest. Every nude beach I've been to is like dozens of males and 10 or so females.

Not interested in Ilha Grande at this time, just was there last January. Actually IG along with Parati was the last international trip I took before the fucking Covid. But yeah, it's amazing.

Sperto
03-16-21, 06:58
There are plenty of nude beaches in Brazil. Many of these beaches are extremely beautiful.
Don't get any ideas like "Wow, I'm going to a brazilian nude beach, take photos and take part in a giant suruba on the beach."

Some notes on nude beaches in Brazil:
1. In several of the best nude beaches no single men are allowed (that's not the case in Abricó).
2. I can only recall one nude beach in Brazil where girls were in majority, normally single men are in majority (boiolas are not rare).
3. You have to remove your clothes.
4. If you try to take hidden photos, be careful or you might be beaten up. Taking photos of your GF is OK.
5. In European nude beaches many of the women are a sight you wish you could forget. In Brazilian nude beaches there are really smoking hot girls.
6. Bring a girl to the nude beach. If you bring a girl it will be more accepted to check out both the single girls and the girls in company with guys. Bringing girl shows that you're not a threat or a dirt-bag.
7. It's possible to have sex with your GF at the nude beaches, but be very discreet. Do it in the water or in the the bushes. You must be respectful.
8. Don't expect sex orgies. There are couples and also single girls looking for swinger action. However that action will not happen on the beach, rather in a motel.

P.S I recommend biking from Copacabana to Grumari and Abricó. The ride have a fantastic scenery. Copacabana-Ipanema-Leblon-ciclovia Tim Maia-Săo Conrado-Barra da Tijuca-Reserva da Barra-Recreio-Prainha-Abricó-Grumari. Round-trip, 85 km. The last part, after Recreio is hilly and very beautiful.
P.P.S On my nude beach list Abricó isn't close to be one of the best ones.

Bravo
03-16-21, 22:51
I w In RB156, one must go to some front desk where one gets a pass of some sort to go up to the floors via elevator.

.They must have changed the rules. I never had to stop at the desk in 156 to get a pass, 75% of the time there wouldn't be anyone sitting there.

HarryDubois
03-17-21, 05:40
I have been reading everything which I can find about crime in Rio and everyone seems to have a different opinion, however this is the general impression which I have gotten:

Non-violent crime. Anything valuable which is not locked up or securely attached to your body will quite possibly vanish.

Violent crime. If there are a lot of people around you are safe, even if it is a poor area such as the infamous Vila Mimosa. If there are not a lot of people around, even of it is in tourist area like Copacabana Beach, however it is after sunset, you will quite possibly to be approached by a gentleman pointing a weapon at you who will demand your valuables and he means business.

Does this sound about right?

Xpartan
03-17-21, 08:18
I have been reading everything which I can find about crime in Rio and everyone seems to have a different opinion, however this is the general impression which I have gotten:

Non-violent crime. Anything valuable which is not locked up or securely attached to your body will quite possibly vanish.

Violent crime. If there are a lot of people around you are safe, even if it is a poor area such as the infamous Vila Mimosa. If there are not a lot of people around, even of it is in tourist area like Copacabana Beach, however it is after sunset, you will quite possibly to be approached by a gentleman pointing a weapon at you who will demand your valuables and he means business.

Does this sound about right?Just replace "quite possibly" with "might" -- then it sounds about right. Then again, you MIGHT become a victim of a crime even when there are people around. And things have become worse in Copa during the pandemic from what I've heard.

Loved the bit about "a gentleman pointing a weapon at you," LOL! Nice way to put it.

HarryDubois
03-17-21, 09:02
Just replace "quite possibly" with "might" -- then it sounds about right. Then again, you MIGHT become a victim of a crime even when there are people around. And things have become worse in Copa during the pandemic from what I've heard.

Loved the bit about "a gentleman pointing a weapon at you," LOL! Nice way to put it.Well I assume that all the robbers in Brazil are gentlemen "Excuse me sir, however if you do not hand over your wallet, I shall have to shoot you. ".

It's just that I am trying to make sense of the vast range of stuff I'm reading.

According to the Overseas Security Advisory Council of the US Department of State's report "Brazil 2020 Crime & Safety Report: Rio de Janeiro".

https://www.osac.gov/Country/Brazil/Content/Detail/Report/9085b10f-2a36-4ca9-b299-18aced68cdd3

It sounds like "Forget it. You go to Rio, you'll die. End of story. ".

The most recent Lonely Planet Guide to Rio (2019) seems pretty laid back. There is a brief section about safety. Crime is a problem, but just take a few common sense precautions and you should be OK. It sounds like New York City (my home town).

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NY4YQF3

Your Complete Travel and Safety Guide to Rio de Janeiro (2017).

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0762ZBV26

Seems to take a middle ground and basically advices "Don't go outside when it's dark. Period. Otherwise it's OK".

Looking through this forum there also seem to be varying levels of caution.

I am sure that if someone is going to stay in 5 star luxury for a week, the chance of something bad happening is fairly slim. However if you're a budget traveler going for a couple of months, then chance of being a victim at some point is a lot higher.

So, within reason, how do you minimize that risk?

AHighlander
03-17-21, 15:11
I've found Rio to be pretty safe if you're used to big city life. I've lived mostly in London, NYC, and LA and Rio doesn't feel any more dangerous than those sorts of cities most of the time. Petty crime is a MAJOR issue around Ipanema, Copa, etc. Basically anywhere there are tourists. Phone snatching is a daily part of life here, but again, it is in London, NYC, etc too (I've had my phone snatched twice in London / NYC). Obviously the danger rate goes WAY UP if you venture into favelas, this is such an obvious truism that it seems silly to even mention it. Gavea, Jardin Bontanico, Sao Conrado, Barra. These are extremely safe places where one would be unlucky to experience any sort of crime.

It's hard to gauge the risk, eg rich carioca friends of mine have fully bulletproof cars, the doors and windows can withstand fire from automatic weapons. However none of them have ever had to shelter so I think paranoia runs a bit wild here. The rich were scarred by the era (I think 80's /90's) when a lot of rich people were kidnapped in Brazil (like much of Latam). People in the rest of Brazil often recoil in horror when you tell them you'll be in Rio, they think it's a hellish danger zone. My experience having spent 5 of the last 12 months here is that it isn't that bad!


Well I assume that all the robbers in Brazil are gentlemen "Excuse me sir, however if you do not hand over your wallet, I shall have to shoot you. ".

It's just that I am trying to make sense of the vast range of stuff I'm reading.

According to the Overseas Security Advisory Council of the US Department of State's report "Brazil 2020 Crime & Safety Report: Rio de Janeiro".

https://www.osac.gov/Country/Brazil/Content/Detail/Report/9085b10f-2a36-4ca9-b299-18aced68cdd3

It sounds like "Forget it. You go to Rio, you'll die. End of story. ".

The most recent Lonely Planet Guide to Rio (2019) seems pretty laid back. There is a brief section about safety. Crime is a problem, but just take a few common sense precautions and you should be OK. It sounds like New York City (my home town).

AHighlander
03-17-21, 15:19
Hi all,

I went to Barra Euro Spa this week, it was decent but most of the 8 or so girls available where more typical Brazilian style with big asses and on the chunkier side, I'm more into the spinners. In any case I can recommend the prive, it was 200 for an hour and the place / service was good. Are there better prives in Barra though?

Thanks!

Mr Enternational
03-17-21, 15:28
It's just that I am trying to make sense of the vast range of stuff I'm reading.

According to the Overseas Security Advisory Council of the US Department of State's report "Brazil 2020 Crime & Safety Report: Rio de Janeiro".

It sounds like "Forget it. You go to Rio, you'll die. End of story. ".

Seems to take a middle ground and basically advices "Don't go outside when it's dark. Period. Otherwise it's OK".

So, within reason, how do you minimize that risk?Dude you are seriously overthinking this. The fact is that you will have no real idea until you go. You can waste your time reading all the articles you want. This is my 20th year going to Brazil and I even lived there and went to school there. Nothing has ever remotely had a chance of happening to me. I go to Vila Mimosa. My ex girlfriend lived in City of God. I used to take the vans there transferring in Rocinha, late at night alone. I wear shorts and flip flops and a Timex sports watch.

On the other hand 2 weeks ago was my brother's very first time in Brazil. Within 5 minutes of arriving, like 10 am he went to walk on the beach with an 18 K gold chain and pendant with 50 diamonds around his neck. He no longer has it.

It has been said 1 million times on here how to minimize risk. Me 20 years most dangerous slums in the world at all times of night and nothing. Am I dead? My brother 5 minutes in the posh part of town and he is a statistic.

What do YOU see as being the difference? If you do not want to go then do not go. But why are you on this website wasting yours and everybody else's time trying convince yourself it is too dangerous for you to go? Again, you will have no idea until you see for yourself.

When the Covid stuff got going good I was at my place in Thailand. Thailand only had 3000 cases and 58 deaths during the 7 months that I was there. Meanwhile I am seeing reports of hundreds of thousands of deaths and millions of cases throughout the rest of the world. Oh there must be chaos and people falling out in the streets.

Eventually I had to come back to America and the only difference I saw was people wearing masks. I have worn a mask and been to 8 countries since, (including Brazil where they are now saying is the worst ever) and have not gotten any Covid.

Meanwhile, my cousin is in Los Angeles shut up in the house and afraid to go outside for the past year. When she does go out, she has on 2 masks and a face shield. When we were together in November I had to ask her how the fuck was she ever in the Army being so afraid of every damn thing. She said her mom said the same thing. Maybe she has been watching too much TV and reading too many articles instead of going out into the real world.

The Cane
03-17-21, 16:06
Dude you are seriously overthinking this. The fact is that you will have no real idea until you go. You can waste your time reading all the articles you want. It has been said 1 million times on here how to minimize risk. What do YOU see as being the difference? If you do not want to go then do not go. But why are you on this website wasting yours and everybody else's time trying convince yourself it is too dangerous for you to go? Again, you will have no idea until you see for yourself.This guy gives me a fucking headache. I no longer read his posts or care to answer any of his questions!

HarryDubois
03-17-21, 16:14
You can waste your time reading all the articles you want. This is my 20th year going to Brazil and I even lived there and went to school there. Nothing has ever remotely had a chance of happening to me. I go to Vila Mimosa. My ex girlfriend lived in City of God. I used to take the vans there transferring in Rocinha, late at night alone. I wear shorts and flip flops and a Timex sports watch.So are you saying if I dress down, wear my old jeans, t shirt and running shoes then I'm OK? I'm really not into jewelry anyway actually. About COVID, I got the vaccine.

My situation right now: I am on the verge of ordering the plane ticket, and staying for four months, however if, in spite of doing all the research and avoiding this and that, I'm probably going to end up looking down the end of a gun barrel at some point, then no. I'll pass on it. One chance in a hundred, or even one in ten, might be fine. But more than 50%, no. That's a deal breaker.

Vagabundo1
03-17-21, 17:08
Sala 3206 : nice view; bad talent again.

2103: to do later.

1406: a hot 18 yo mulata! Will return later.

1301: closed.

1007: VIP therapy, best condition; 7 girls, average 5.

Vagabundo1
03-17-21, 18:47
I agree.

That said we were all in his shoes at some point.

RTFF especially Athenian bubba boys guide and senor Sperto's guide.


This guy gives me a fucking headache. I no longer read his posts or care to answer any of his questions!

RysZardo
03-17-21, 19:00
Well I'm only one month in Rio, I stay Copa / Ipanema. I feel really safe here. I was walking around alone or with friends on the beach after 00.00 and I really don't see a point why someone would come to me now and try to rob me. I mean why robbers from favela would come here now if there are almost 0 gringos. When I drink beer on the beach, sometimes some homeless comes and asks for money and that's it. Anyway I don't have too much money or expensive stuff with me, so even if someone attack me, what's the point to be afraid of? Just give him this few reals and that's it. I sometimes go out with my Brazilian dude he lives 10 years in Ipanema and he said he has never had any problem here and he goes out pretty often. I think people are afraid of own shadow now, it's ridiculous, during World War II people who lived in the village 30 km from front line wasn't so panic like idiots who are afraid to get sickness similar to flue or people are afraid to travel now because of Covid and before they did mongering in Thailand and ride a scooter pretty often being drunk where risk to die or get injured is huuuuuuge. Well I don't mind if these chickens stay at home, but it s annoying because they make rules I have to follow. Umm I need to get some beer and go to the beach to chill out, regards.

Vagabundo1
03-17-21, 19:57
Hit me up. I live in barra. I have not really tried the barra prives, but the prices sound high. My gut instinct based on my 1000 posts (with my alter ego patmarbeleza1) is that Recreio may have best cost benefit. I import my bunda from centro termas and prives as a rule.

The best barra and rio and Brazil boate is perola negra, and the best non pro pick up spot is olegario maciel.


Hi all,

I went to Barra Euro Spa this week, it was decent but most of the 8 or so girls available where more typical Brazilian style with big asses and on the chunkier side, I'm more into the spinners. In any case I can recommend the prive, it was 200 for an hour and the place / service was good. Are there better prives in Barra though?

Thanks!

The Cane
03-17-21, 22:36
I agree. That said we were all in his shoes at some point. RTFF.Well I was never that bad LOL!

Exec Talent
03-17-21, 23:10
Probably some fat pimply-faced kid living is his mother's basement. He obviously has never been anywhere.

Everyone should put him on ignore.

Vagabundo1
03-17-21, 23:16
Wear a vasco the gama soccer shirt.

Keep your mouth shut. You're deaf.


Well I was never that bad LOL!

HarryDubois
03-18-21, 03:38
This website is called "International Sex Guide". In other words it's a place to go to look for guidance from others who are more experienced, amirite? Like "Gourmet Cooking Guide". It's not called "Place Where Men Swap Stories About the Great Time They Had".

Maybe that's what it is; I'm sorry. So change the name then.

I did do a search for words like "safety" and "crime" before I posted my question, however first of all no one here goes into it in detail and secondly from the comments I did find it sounds like people on this forum are also all over the place.

I am accessing all other resources available on the web, and it's a VERY broad range from "Don't go. Full stop. " to "It's fine. Exercise normal big city caution. ".

My guess is that it might all be true, depending on who you are and your luck. If you are a 5 foot tall female weighing 95 pounds soaking wet waving around your iphone 12 pro and you happen to be at the wrong the place at the wrong time, you will be in trouble. If you look like The Rock and don't do anything too stupid, you'll probably be fine. I'm in the middle.

Vagabundo1
03-18-21, 03:51
I hit the Darkside on a 1 man pussy patrol.

I banged a 18 yo morena at a new secret terma east of clubs 116 and 114 and west of t31.

Cost was 100 for 30 minutes and a tip of 20.

Bonehead is in town until 15 April.

Friday is when we plan to hit centro termas.


Probably some fat pimply-faced kid living is his mother's basement. He obviously has never been anywhere.

Everyone should put him on ignore.

HarryDubois
03-18-21, 03:57
Gavea, Jardin Bontanico, Sao Conrado, Barra. These are extremely safe places where one would be unlucky to experience any sort of crime.Thank you so much for your reply, however I noticed that these neighborhoods also seem to be almost free of commercial sex, except for Termas Solarium and Perola Negra, so sticking to those neighborhoods would sort of defeat the purpose. I suppose you could call girls to come to you, for an added expense.

Member #4729
03-18-21, 05:38
This website is called "International Sex Guide". In other words it's a place to go to look for guidance from others who are more experienced, amirite? Like "Gourmet Cooking Guide". It's not called "Place Where Men Swap Stories About the Great Time They Had".

Maybe that's what it is; I'm sorry. So change the name then.Hi Harry,

I've only been reading / posting at this site for a couple weeks but I have to concur with the common sentiment. It seems like you are obsessively going over all these details and one gets the suspicion that someone who is actually going to pull the trigger would not luxuriate so compulsively in the obsessive intricacies of comment forum. A man of action gathers information and then. Acts. It seems like you are more just gathering without any real intent and the real thing here for you is to just paint a fantastical picture that can be inhabited psychologically. Like people that play the lottery who fantasize about their winnings.

It also reminds me of a yacht salesman I know who told me a story about a married couple that loves to go tour yachts and wastes hours and hours of the salespersons time with absolutely zero intent to purchase because 1. They enjoy living in the fantasy of owning a yacht 2. It's sick anti social power play on the honest salesmen who believes they are legitimate customers and the sensation of their asses being kissed by him is enjoyable.

All this to say that do not be surprised when punters stop responding to your questions.

Vagabundo1
03-18-21, 05:47
Brazil v Israel in Security / A full centro terma report.

So Harry is in Israel. I can assure you that Brazil is no more dangerous than Israel from extensive experience in both 'hoods. I've had Palestinians shoot and kill guys under my command, and traded lead with them, all while pretending to tolerate them. I've had similar experiences in Brazil, and the only thing you need to know is that you can't take pictures in certain areas like VM, or you will have someone show you a gun.

So, if you want good internet at Transamerica, the front desk late night guy will hook you up by registering your MAC address. It is a pro tip. I can PM you the guy's name and number.

Also, some other hotel Transamerica pro tips.

You can have the hotel laundry do your laundry. Go to 1's (1st subsolo). As Garth brooks sings "Friends in low places."

You can get filtered water on the same floor.

The bus goes to centro, starting at 06 h50 and semi hourly, last trip being at 19 h.


Thank you so much for your reply, however I noticed that these neighborhoods also seem to be almost free of commercial sex, except for Termas Solarium and Perola Negra, so sticking to those neighborhoods would sort of defeat the purpose. I suppose you could call girls to come to you, for an added expense.

Vagabundo1
03-18-21, 06:18
So Harry is in Israel. I can assure you that Brazil is no more dangerous than Israel from extensive experience in both 'hoods. I've had Palestinians shoot and kill guys under my command, and traded lead with them, all while pretending to tolerate them. I've had similar experiences in Brazil, and the only thing you need to know is that you can't take pictures in certain areas like VM, or you will have someone show you a gun.

So, if you want good internet at Transamerica, the front desk late night guy will hook you up by registering your MAC address. It is a pro tip. I can PM you the guy's name and number.

Also, some other hotel Transamerica pro tips.

You can have the hotel laundry do your laundry. Go to 1's (1st subsolo). As Garth brooks sings "Friends in low places."

You can get filtered water on the same floor.

The bus goes to centro, starting at 06 h50 and semi hourly, last trip being at 19 h. The schedule is here.

http://m.associacaomediterraneo.com/horario-onibus-van-balsa/onibus/

The front desk guy compares Hotel Transamerica to the Netflix series on the Cecil hotel. The heroine victim is a UBC grad, like FLCN. Interestingly, social media leaves a trail, tumblr to be exact.

So, I get up and catch the bus at 09 h15 to Centro, specifically to av presidente Wilson 147, which is near the consulates, so I can check in to the Swiss Consulate, which is where the buses normally park.

One insights from Jorge Amado 's Two Deaths of. Is that the key to winning a fight is to get the bus drivers on your side. It makes sense, think about it. A bus, especially the luxury buses from Transamerica / Mediterraneo are rolling houses -- complete with bathroom. You could fuck on these. Check out that buttman movie with the road trip with Rocco and Nacho to a boat fuck scene, with the DP of that Latina. Mandingoblack remembered that scene.

So, I walk over to TDM33. I make the noted recon. See my previous post. The biggest positive is the 18 yo Mulata / Morena. 18 year olds are only 18 once, and 18 yo pussy will keep a man young.

I head over to RB156. I trade in my Redmi Bluetooth airpods (239 r) for a 1 TB Seagate drive (399 r). I had been asking for recommendations on IT from the IT shop on the basement of TDM33 which sells and specializes in desktops, but since the woman who sold me the bluetooth phones allowed me to credit the airpods I did the deal with her. She is on the 1st floor. The 2nd, third, and fourth floor at RB156 are where the better value for money shopped are. I bought a JBL wired headset there.

I had noted the number of a morena with a best bundinha (not a bundao) at Club 116. I messaged her, but she was not in centro, otherwise I would have gone for a pernoite, starting at 13 h. The return buses for Mediterraneo leave from Av Presidente Wilson 147 at 13 h, 16 h10,17 h20,19 h. As I say, professionals study logistics. I tell my hookers to meet at the starbucks at metro cinelandia, and then get them onboard the bus. Good girls like nina deponca can dress well enough to get the free bus ride included with my rent at Transamerica. 40+are uber rides add up.

So, I just missed the 13 h mediterraneo bus back, so I caught the 309 which is a city bus which leaves from the same location.

I get back to Transamerica at 14 h30, hit the pool. The pool is key to fitness.

Some superhot morenas there. I get numbers. You can see them on barravipsrio website. As mentioned, that whole website basically lives here.

I do some clean and jerks working in on the same bar with a hooker who is diligently working out, and chat up a new buddy from Canada.

Bonhead had said he would be in centro at 15 h30, but I missed him. He said he will be up for a centro run on Friday, so here again is the warning order for that patrol.

So, I head back to Centro, message bonhead. I am on my own, so I walk over from av presidente Wilson to RB 156, pick up some lube etc, and then continue on to the darkside (North of Av Presidente Vargas). I head to Club 116 and Club 114 first.

Since 0. 0001 (my name for the morena with the superhot ass) is not there, I continue on towards T31, which is Rua Alcantera Machado 31. On the way, I drop into the new secret terma (hint hint, my writing style is Ernest Hemingway mystery). At the new secret terma which is closing at 21 h, I come upon a new 18 yo Morena. Negra. Firm natural tits. She says she will do it raw, and I breed her for 100 r for the half, and I tip her 20 r on the theory that I want this pussy pernoite, and it helps to give her a good initial impression. I loved loved loved fucking 18 year old negra negra negra pussy raw. It was a good ride in missionary, then cowgirl, then doggy. I will be up that beautiful noemie bilas quality vag again many times.

On the way from the New Secret Terma to T31, I find a rocking MMA gym. I recon that. Cost is 140 r for the month. I will be back. The goal with training at such a gym is real friends, and it is near my best sources of good pussy. The tenets of Brazilian culture are fighting fucking and futbol. The 3 FS.

So, I go then to T31. For 20, I get a beer and a coke, but the real justification for the inflated prices is the talent, which is best for this area. I do get several numbers. My best mini relationship of this past year is from this terma.

I dropped 30 reais total (including at tip for a girl who's number I wanted, and got).

I walked over to Hotel Atlantico, which is highly highly recommended. I went there for the good internet so I could call a 99. I did get a 99 to lapa Irish bar.

Unfortunately, the Irish bar was already closed. I caught the green glad barmaid in time to find that with the pandemic, bars close at 21 h or some stupid hour, even at an Irish bar on st paddies day. Billy my investigator buddy already took off, so I will catch him later.

I head down to Barra on a 99, and call it a night. Igor the night shift guy at the Transamerica front desk gets my computers set up for good internet.


Thank you so much for your reply, however I noticed that these neighborhoods also seem to be almost free of commercial sex, except for Termas Solarium and Perola Negra, so sticking to those neighborhoods would sort of defeat the purpose. I suppose you could call girls to come to you, for an added expense.

SoberHans69
03-18-21, 08:42
Thank you so much for your reply, however I noticed that these neighborhoods also seem to be almost free of commercial sex, except for Termas Solarium and Perola Negra, so sticking to those neighborhoods would sort of defeat the purpose. I suppose you could call girls to come to you, for an added expense.Red light areas will always attract dodgy people, they are bound to be dangerous than upper class neighbourhoods. It will be the same in any city.

Vagabundo1
03-18-21, 08:57
Alexia belucci.

https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=63041&start=20

Dear Harry:

Fode-se.

Look, pal, I am after this post going to follow the suggestion of a veteran of this board and ignore you.

But I am going to do so by swapping a story about the great time my cock had with the pictured and linked girl, Alexia Belucci.

She was my top 1 or 2 all time girls.

She was "ingra" at 4 x4.

Then she became a freelancer (so she keeps 100% of her tight Italian Brazilian pussy's work.

I had her 20 or more times, most pernoite.

She defined pernoite.

Pernoite is:

Go to a healthy dinner of sushi at the JW Marriot.

Return to the apartment in rua djalma Ulrich.

Fuck for 2 hours, sleep for an hour, fuck for 1-2 hours, sleep for 1-2 hours, fuck. Repeat until noon - 14 h. Maybe go to a nice place like a university in gavea, to walk and enjoy the moment, buy her a book because she is smart, a book about mythology.

That happened 11 years ago.

Yes, whether it happened 11 minutes ago, or 11 years, or 20 years ago is legit.

Try this: come to a country in person before you post about it, and especially before you criticize the guys who have been here. Or, go ahead and put in the VR goggles for your map program and a big jar of lube for your fleshlight.

Now, I too will ignore you.

Respectfully.


It's not called "Place Where Men Swap Stories About the Great Time They Had".

Maybe that's what it is; I'm sorry. So change the name then.

Explorer8939
03-18-21, 09:51
I have been reading everything which I can find about crime in Rio and everyone seems to have a different opinion, however this is the general impression which I have gotten:

Non-violent crime. Anything valuable which is not locked up or securely attached to your body will quite possibly vanish.

Violent crime. If there are a lot of people around you are safe, even if it is a poor area such as the infamous Vila Mimosa. If there are not a lot of people around, even of it is in tourist area like Copacabana Beach, however it is after sunset, you will quite possibly to be approached by a gentleman pointing a weapon at you who will demand your valuables and he means business.

Does this sound about right?The reality is that Brazil invested in security for the World Cup and the Olympics, so Copacabana is much safer than 10 years ago.

HarryDubois
03-18-21, 12:57
The reality is that Brazil invested in security for the World Cup and the Olympics, so Copacabana is much safer than 10 years ago.Thank you very much, however everything I am reading is much more recent than that.

These are the kind of things I'm reading:

I was checking out an apartment on airbnb owned by a man named George.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/17380848

The apartment is located in the Morro the Babilônia favela. That's on a steep hill perched over Posto 1 of the Copacabana beach.

This is a comment left by Oskar May 2017:

"We got mugged once in Rio, at the beach and not in the favela, which made our experience as tourists feeling that the favela was a lot safer than many tourist areas. ".

George responded:

"While the favela may look frightening at times, it is actually much safer than below. Here it is strictly prohibited to mess with visitors, while in the designated tourist areas it is 'open season'. ".

Now on the other hand, smartertravel.com has makes this comment:

"Travelers who have accidentally wandered into Rio's favelas have gotten shot and injured".

https://www.smartertravel.com/tips-rio-de-janeiro-warnings-dangers-stay-safe/

And provides a link to a map (attached) which helpfully points out the exact locations of these death traps, including Morro the Babilônia.

So who is right?

I am 60, but I'm 6'1", 200 pounds, broad shoulders and work out a lot. I can look a little scary. I guess I'll just have to wing it and hope for the best.

Sperto
03-18-21, 14:43
The apartment is located in the Morro the Babilnia favela... I am 60, but I'm 6'1", 200 pounds, broad shoulders and work out a lot. I can look a little scary.
Forget Babilônia!

There is absolutely no risk of getting robbed in Babilônia. The problem is that two favelas share the same morro, Babilônia and Chapéu Mangueira. They are run by two different gangs, CV and TCP. As the favela is pacificated there are lots of heavily armed police, PM, between the two favelas. Unfortunately, the peacekeeping doesn't work. The two gangs fight a lot. Machinegunfire is very common, both daytime and nighttime. Sometimes people die from stray bullets.

Even if the two gangs have a truce the gangs will have their armed "soldiers" on guard. It's not unusual to see 2 dozen of young guys with machineguns, several of them on drugs. These guys couldn't care less about that you "look a little scary". They would propably not harm you, but as you want to avoid looking down a gun barrel you wouldn't feel comfortable staying in Babilônia.

I wouldn't recommend an old an heavy guy to stay in Babilônia. The ladeira is very steep, but you can use a moto-taxi or minibus. However as your apartment says it's located on the "top of Babilonia Hill", this will mean that you'll have to climb a lot of stairs. Unless you're very fit you won't like that.

Look for a place in Copacabana. Your problem isn't the safety in Rio, your problem is that you worry too much about everything. The muggers will propably smell your fear and you'll end up getting robbed.
If I were you I would stay home.

WyattEarp
03-18-21, 16:45
Harry,

Listen (and learn) more. You are often projecting your opinions and commentary on to the Rio thread. It's fine to be inquisitive about Rio, but no one comes here to get commentary from posters who have never been.

HarryDubois
03-18-21, 16:51
Even if the two gangs have a truce the gangs will have their armed "soldiers" on guard. It's not unusual to see 2 dozen of young guys with machineguns, several of them on drugs. Your apartment says it's located on the "top of Babilonia Hill", this will mean that you'll have to climb a lot of stairs. I does sound a little bit off putting, all the gun fights and whatnot, however what if I can use those stairs to my advantage? If I spot a guy with a machine gun, I'll just grab the barrel and use that as a sort of lever to flip him over and throw him down the stairs. My hands are licensed deadly weapons.

Also, does anyone know if I can get a case of rocket propelled grenades through Brazilian customs? In my checked baggage of course. The reusable launcher will go in my carry on, and it's all for personal use, not resale, so I don't see a problem with import taxes. Here in the Middle East (I'm an American expat in Israel) a lot of little misunderstands are straightened out by a few well placed RPGs.

I think Rio needs me, now more than ever.

After I take care of any gang wars, then I can go down the hill to Mab's and relax with a few margaritas and have a chat with some of the local young ladies.

HarryDubois
03-18-21, 18:30
Harry,

Listen (and learn) more. You are often projecting your opinions and commentary on to the Rio thread. It's fine to be inquisitive about Rio, but no one comes here to get commentary from posters who have never been.What's so bizarre is that, at least in regard to safety, everyone, not only here but on other forums, in Lonely Planet, in the US State Department, has their own Rio. It's as if each person is talking about a different city. For example, I'm a New Yorker, born and bred, and I can tell you pretty much exactly the dos and don'ts of New York City and I'm pretty sure there is a consensus on that. But everybody has a different idea about crime and violence in Rio.

Bottom line, I'm just going to ignore everybody. I'm getting off the plane and if everyone is wonderful or if I get machine gunned by gangbangers or both, I'll just take it as it comes.

The Cane
03-18-21, 19:00
When I was a university student, I met lots and lots of people from New York City. One thing that struck me about almost all of them was how worldly and sophisticated they thought they were. Well, as I got to know those individuals more, something struck me about them. Many of them had not been to many other places in their lives outside of New York, which they viewed to be the center of the universe, sometimes even getting into heated arguments with each other over who knew the most about the Big Apple, much to my amusement. The fact of the matter was that with time I discovered that there was nothing "worldly" or "sophisticated" about nearly all of them because they hadn't been anywhere other than New York! And it showed. Yes, New York is a great American city. But, it isn't the world. It's just a small part of it. To be worldly, you've got to see and experience the world. As much of it as you can. Because New York alone isn't going to be nearly enough. That doesn't cut it.

Sperto
03-18-21, 19:32
Probably some fat pimply-faced kid living is his mother's basement. He obviously has never been anywhere.

Everyone should put him on ignore.Right on the point.

World Travel 69
03-18-21, 20:08
What is the Secret of the Address?


I hit the Darkside on a 1 man pussy patrol.

I banged a 18 yo morena at a new secret terma east of clubs 116 and 114 and west of t31.

Cost was 100 for 30 minutes and a tip of 20.

Bonehead is in town until 15 April.

Friday is when we plan to hit centro termas.

Spidy
03-18-21, 22:43
So the Boxing sports world lost a legend on March 13th, 2021, Marvelous Marvin Hagler.

It was way back in the day (90's), that I ran into him and his brother, at HELP during carnival. He was one of the nicest sports celebs you'll ever meet. I was very surprised at how much taller I was (me 5'11) than him, but make no mistake about it, he was a solid muscular man, from head to toe (and good looking). Obviously not someone to be messed with. He shall missed by family and those in the sporting world.

Pretty sure I'd taken a pic of him and his brother back then, but can't seem to find it. Anyway here is a little nostalgia from that Rio Carnival era.

Vagabundo1
03-18-21, 23:22
I don't know but it's right in the middle there in your graphic.

There are several.

The lights are the way to find them.


What is the Secret of the Address?

Bravo
03-18-21, 23:38
I never thought I would see the day when I couldn't just jump on a plane and fly to my favorite destination in the world. One of my favoritas just whatsapp me in tears because it was just announced on TV that the state of Rio De Janeiro is officially closed for tourists. They have not given a time line on how long the ban will be for.

Mr Enternational
03-19-21, 02:20
I never thought I would see the day when I couldn't just jump on a plane and fly to my favorite destination in the world. One of my favoritas just whatsapp me in tears because it was just announced on TV that the state of Rio De Janeiro is officially closed for tourists. They have not given a time line on how long the ban will be for.My friends that live in Rio have heard nothing about this and I have not seen it in any of the papers.

The Cane
03-19-21, 03:03
My friends that live in Rio have heard nothing about this and I have not seen it in any of the papers.I also have not been able to confirm this. If anybody can please chime in.

Sperto
03-19-21, 04:14
I never thought I would see the day when I couldn't just jump on a plane and fly to my favorite destination in the world. One of my favoritas just whatsapp me in tears because it was just announced on TV that the state of Rio De Janeiro is officially closed for tourists. They have not given a time line on how long the ban will be for.
False alarm.
Nine days ago Secretário de Saúde was speaking about closing Rio for tourists, but his suggestion wasn't approved.
https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2021/03/10/secretario-de-saude-do-rj-detalha-situacao-de-leitos-para-pacientes-com-covid-19-na-rede-estadual.ghtml
What will happen is that Paes intend to close the beaches this weekend.
https://oglobo.globo.com/rio/paes-decide-fechar-praias-do-rio-neste-final-de-semana-para-tentar-conter-avanco-da-covid-19-24931619

Bravo
03-19-21, 05:45
False alarm.
Nine days ago Secretrio de Sade was speaking about closing Rio for tourists, but his suggestion wasn't approved.
https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2021/03/10/secretario-de-saude-do-rj-detalha-situacao-de-leitos-para-pacientes-com-covid-19-na-rede-estadual.ghtml
What will happen is that Paes intend to close the beaches this weekend.
https://oglobo.globo.com/rio/paes-decide-fechar-praias-do-rio-neste-final-de-semana-para-tentar-conter-avanco-da-covid-19-24931619The mayor of Rio had a press conference Thursday where he said he wants to close Rio de Janeiro but it wouldn't make sense unless the other states agree to close their borders too. Otherwise, we could fly into SP and then take a bus to Rio. I think they are closing buzios to foreigners as well.

HarryDubois
03-19-21, 07:16
Many of them had not been to many other places in their lives outside of New York, which they viewed to be the center of the universeI've been other places; actually I am now in another place. However you could definitely never leave New York City and get anything that exists anywhere in New York City. Museums. Check. Giant skyscrapers. Check. Super rich. Check. Poverty. Check. Massive terrorist attacks. Check. Petty crime. Check. Even natural beauty if you are a real New Yorker and know where to look. Hookers, porn. I think we invented them. Tell me one thing which exists anywhere which is NOT in New York City.

Ok, I'm ready go to Rio. (Provided that the country doesn't shut down before my flight April 12 which with my luck I'm sure it will.)

Just one final big philosophical question: How is sex with a working girl better than masturbating while watching a working girl have sex on Pornhub? I'm very serious. If you know that she's just doing it for the cash and the minute the cash is gone, she will stop returning your calls, plus you've got to wear a condom which I personally hate, what's the point really? Upside of porn: free, super convenient, no STDs, no sudden national shutdowns or stray bullets from gang wars to deal with, etc.

Xpartan
03-19-21, 07:37
Ok, I'm ready go to Rio. Just one final question: How is sex with a working girl better than masturbating while watching a working girl have sex on Pornhub? I'm very serious. If you know that she's just doing it for the cash and the minute the cash is gone, she will stop returning your calls, plus you've got to wear a condom which I personally hate, what's the point really?LOL, I don't know how to explain the difference between a good fuck and a masturbation. I mean, maybe you'll find the experience lacking, but then you'll know for sure. Unlike women, your porn will always be there for you.

And no, she will not stop returning your calls if you're not a total jerk, either because she'll want more money from you, due to your winning personality or both. And if she does, there are thousands more where she comes from. Cheers!

SoberHans69
03-19-21, 08:15
So the Boxing sports world lost a legend on March 13th, 2021, Marvelous Marvin Hagler.

It was way back in the day (90's), that I ran into him and his brother, at HELP during carnival. He was one of the nicest sports celebs you'll ever meet. I was very surprised at how much taller I was (me 5'11) than him, but make no mistake about it, he was a solid muscular man, from head to toe (and good looking). Obviously not someone to be messed with. He shall missed by family and those in the sporting world.

Pretty sure I'd taken a pic of him and his brother back then, but can't seem to find it. Anyway here is a little nostalgia from that Rio Carnival era.Great post, thanks. One of my favourite ever fighters. Been watching some of his best performances over the past few days. Scypion, Sibson, Hamsho 1 and of course Hearns, absolute legend and a gentleman too.

Java Man
03-19-21, 08:42
Here in the Middle East (I'm an American expat in Israel) a lot of little misunderstands are straightened out by a few well placed RPGs.Isreal?! The Middle East?! Isn't that a war zone? With Daily bombings? And YOU'RE afraid of going to Rio?! lol :)

HarryDubois
03-19-21, 12:34
LOL, I don't know how to explain the difference between a good fuck and a masturbation. And no, she will not stop returning your calls if you're not a total jerk, either because she'll want more money from you, due to your winning personality or both. A good fuck, yes definitely. However here is the deal. Condoms. I have already messaged on whatsapp some of the kind young ladies of Rio and they all said "You're not getting near my vagina or anus without a condom!" I've never used condoms because I have never before had sex outside marriage. So I've done some experimenting. At the nearest drugstore I got a box of Durex Real Feel.

https://www.amazon.com/Condoms-Durex-Lubricated-Natural-Eligible/dp/B08LDPR3YH

Took a 50 MG viagra. Turned on the porn. Got to work. And it was WORK. After I think an hour I finally ejaculated. It has been compared to eating with a plastic bag covering your tongue. I don't think I'd even call it sex. There should be a new word for this. Near Sex Experience. Pleasure Free Sex.

About the money, I've had some experience with sexting relationships with Russian, Asian and Latina girls. No money, no time for you. Think about it. You are a steady customer of a hooker and you have a very cordial relationship. GFE all the way. One day you sit down with her and have a little talk "Listen, Brittany, with the economy these days, I'm tight on cash. So how about this. We keep dating but I don't pay you. We have such great times together. Can't we make it into a real relationship?" what are the chances that Brittany is ever going to spread those amazing, long, sexy legs again for you? There is probably one customer in thousand who becomes a boyfriend. Basically she is an actress and the relationship is a fantasy in your brain. Isn't porn the same thing but free? I'm just asking seriously.


Isreal?! The Middle East?! Isn't that a war zone? With Daily bombings? And YOU'RE afraid of going to Rio?! lol :)Actually, you'd be very surprised. I am not getting a commission from the Ministry of Tourism. Tourism is in fact banned at the moment. However there is close to zero crime or violence in Jewish neighborhoods and no terrorism. It has been almost absolutely quiet since 2006. The number of Jewish civilians killed by Muslim terrorists in the past decade has been in the low single digits on average per year. And no crime. No serial killers. No muggings. No rapes. Hot girls walking home alone from clubs on quiet streets after midnight. Five year olds in urban low income neighborhoods walking to school alone and asking strangers to help them cross the street. As a New Yorker, it was a culture shock. Sadly there are occasional domestic homicides and once in a blue moon a professional hit connected to the drug trade.

On the other hand there is Iran. Israel and Iran are in a relationship similar to the Soviet Union and the US about 1960. Nothing might happen, however if things go sideways, we are all dead.

Vagabundo1
03-19-21, 15:18
Lawyers Guns and Money.

So, Harry, as long as you're bringing in a RPG, I suggest a few SAMs, you know Stingers, haha.

If you want to buy a gun, anyone who is dealing weed can eventually hook you up into the right supply chain. Expect 80,000 r for a FNFAL.

You can find a gun store near the former secret terma, but you need the right paperwork from the Federal Police.

You can also legally buy air guns, including ones that resemble very closely pistols. However, tactically, I would strongly warn against carrying a fake pistol. It can only get you in more trouble if not dead.

You can buy long air rifles, which are tactically sound, but you need to practice; as I mentioned you can buy spearguns, which, again are tactically sound, again if only for deterence. Watch your james bond, and carry some swim fins to give you cover for action to carry a spear gun. No one in their right mind is going to attack a victim who has a spear gun compared to some overweight balding easy mark with a rolex and gold chains. On copa beach there are locals who go spear gun fishing every day near the fort. Buy a old pair of utilities and go diving in them, they work just fine, and that's how military divers train for dives of less than 50 meters, and to come ashore. You can also see those military divers at work in urca.

Or you could bring a vice, and drill, and figure out how to get 80% parts, and make your own, like granddaddy did on copperhead road.

The law firm investigator who works at the law firm that represents lapa irish bar can hook you up with a firearm, but it's kind of one of those "does this guy represent a good business risk (of my firm losing its law license)" so don't come across the way you post here, or they will definitely never help you get a lethal weapon. That said, if you have enough money, his law firm will be glad to take it from you to keep you from getting ass raped in bangu for a significant amount of time.

But the main thing you need is a sense of humor, and the best advice for soldiers going into combat I ever heard -- it's best to assume you are already dead -- memento mori, in the original Latin.

Sperto
03-19-21, 17:24
I looked at Mr Pornhubs post history and got a good laugh. 126 posts just asking questions regarding dozens of countries and never travelling to none. Imagine how much time the forum members wasted on replying.

Vagabundo1
03-19-21, 18:22
Lawyers Guns and Money. Body armor, taser.

As I mentioned somewhere previously, you can also buy a taser (75 r), and a plate carrier (180 r) at a shop across the street from the main police station on Rua Gomes Freire. The law firm investigator who represents Lapa Irish Bar trains with two female cops, who are superhot, and a protip source of the best non pros to date, because, as I said, girls should carry the pistols, so men can carry them heavier long guns. Like McCrae says in Lonesome Dove, a hooker can slit your jugular vein right below your ear on your neck just as easily as a Comanche; Maria in Hemingway's For Whom the Bell Tolls says the same thing pretty much, which is why certain governments are sending in male / female SF teams; the best hookers in the world being in Rio, the key is finding a girl you can trust, and who likes and can use all them weapons. The most powerful weapon on the battlefield is a camera, to wit, one can buy drones and security cameras at RB156, which is a good step for security in a rental, especially if you are going to live in that open air Airbnb on top of Babi, which is a invitation to get whacked if you're a ugly gringo. 'Course, all that could be avoided by a trip to Metro Uruguiana, where you should get a $25 r Vasco shirt, as many of the cops, bus drivers, and lower paid folks from Zona Norte are Vasco. If you are really smart and have the money, you could talk to a local law firm and have them get a driver for you, as a vehicle is the best security, especially a local driver who has experience working with global firms like an oil services company, and who speaks good English.

Party on Garth and Warren.

I went home with the waitress.

The way I always do.

How was I to know.

She was with the Russians too.

I was gambling in Havana.

I took a little risk.

Send lawyers guns and money.

Dad get me out of this (ha).

I'm the innocent bystander.

Somehow I got stuck.

Between a rock and a hard place.

And I'm down on my luck.

Yes I'm down on my luck.

Well I'm down on my luck.

And I'm hiding in Honduras.

I'm a desperate man.

Send lawyers guns and money.

The shit has hit the fan.

Send lawyers guns and money (ugh).

Send lawyers guns and money (hit it).

Send lawyers guns and money (ooh. Hey uh) (hey uh. Yeah).


Lawyers Guns and Money.

So, Harry, as long as you're bringing in a RPG, I suggest a few SAMs, you know Stingers, haha.

If you want to buy a gun, anyone who is dealing weed can eventually hook you up into the right supply chain. Expect 80,000 r for a FNFAL.

You can find a gun store near the former secret terma, but you need the right paperwork from the Federal Police.

You can also legally buy air guns, including ones that resemble very closely pistols. However, tactically, I would strongly warn against carrying a fake pistol. It can only get you in more trouble if not dead..

JohnnyWalker55
03-19-21, 18:54
Sperto, I did the same thing, dying laughing at his posts.

Been in a great routine with garotas, doing the 2 for 20 special in the AM. Why 2 for 20?

I go to cheap prives in av 33 maio, praca olavo bilac, or uruguiana and get a garota for 20 minutes usually 60 reals. I don't bust on the first one, then go to another prive and do the same thing. Damage, 120 reals usually combined. TONS of girl next door types at the trashy joints, the kinds you see on the subway or the supermarket and just want to bend her over.

Then at night been rotating 3 terapias on RB, and with the same girls. And they let me BBFS. It's fucking amazing, usually 60 min 160-170. I tell them I'm only seeing them as I go every third day, they may know I'm lying but idc and idk if they care. What's funny is they initiated it after I repeat a session, saying it feels so much better. Just, please god not aids.

Just hit up ruo olvidor 130 sala 707 today, 4 MILF types, blonde was DFK DATY and anal no extra fee. As always ymmv.

Sperto
03-19-21, 19:29
Just hit up ruo olvidor 130 sala 707 today, 4 MILF types, blonde was DFK DATY and anal no extra fee. As always ymmv.
It seems like your doing very fine.
Rua do Ouvidor 130, sala 707. That's Stellas Massagem. You MUST try Kelly. She's a legend on the local forums. I had her many times the last 13 years. She's absolutely amazing! Tall, fit, superfit, silicon ttis (which I normally dislike) and super sweet. Three holes, R$50 (at least last year). Her BBJCIM is oustanding. Normally I'm not a fan of anal, but Kellys is an exception.

Ask for a new disposable sheet. There's a a bathroom for the girls where you can wash your d*ck before and after.

P.S Kelly usually have a line of guys waiting for her. Go there early, around 10.30 AM and you'll be her first customer.

Vagabundo1
03-19-21, 19:47
This is a report of distinction for sure.

We mongers have to have a pro forma budget.

So, if I am doing accounting correctly, this is a cost of less than 300 r per day (120 r for two sessions of 20 minutes in the morning, and a 1 h session for 160 r at night, for $280).

This is why I head to centro.

The custo / vale pena analysis is much better than barra (if anyone has good reports of recreio, I am interested, I bet it is good at the local prives there, as that is where the locals go).

If you're going to do this for a month or more, then your pro forma adds up.

280 x30 is less than 9000 reais a month.

9000 x 12 is less than 108,000 reais a year.

Then you need some kind of permanent resident visa and retirement income over 108 k plus lodging per year.

The only thing I would add is to be on PReP which reduces risk, but doesn't eliminate it.

Outstanding reporting!


Sperto, I did the same thing, dying laughing at his posts.

Been in a great routine with garotas, doing the 2 for 20 special in the AM. Why 2 for 20?

I go to cheap prives in av 33 maio, praca olavo bilac, or uruguiana and get a garota for 20 minutes usually 60 reals. I don't bust on the first one, then go to another prive and do the same thing. Damage, 120 reals usually combined. TONS of girl next door types at the trashy joints, the kinds you see on the subway or the supermarket and just want to bend her over..

Vagabundo1
03-19-21, 19:57
I like club 13 and 15 on the same street.

Midori, who of course bears a resemblance to midori the porn star, worked at club 15 or 13; though I had met her first in vm, where she told me she had no kids which was a lie. \.

The good thing about her is she is a pharma student and she gets tested regularly, and insists I do to, which is required for my harem.

She also is well broken in, and takes it anally very easily, in contrast to Monique who has a very tight sphincter.

Again, well done!


Sperto, I did the same thing, dying laughing at his posts.

Been in a great routine with garotas, doing the 2 for 20 special in the AM. Why 2 for 20?

I go to cheap prives in av 33 maio, praca olavo bilac, or uruguiana and get a garota for 20 minutes usually 60 reals. I don't bust on the first one, then go to another prive and do the same thing. Damage, 120 reals usually combined. TONS of girl next door types at the trashy joints, the kinds you see on the subway or the supermarket and just want to bend her over.

Then at night been rotating 3 terapias on RB, and with the same girls. And they let me BBFS. It's fucking amazing, usually 60 min 160-170. I tell them I'm only seeing them as I go every third day, they may know I'm lying but idc and idk if they care. What's funny is they initiated it after I repeat a session, saying it feels so much better. Just, please god not aids.

Just hit up ruo olvidor 130 sala 707 today, 4 MILF types, blonde was DFK DATY and anal no extra fee. As always ymmv.

Pooloo3232
03-20-21, 03:28
Does anyone know if Rio is 'closed?' -- I. E, bars / restaurants are not open after 5 pm or whatever time? I saw that it was announced 2-3 weeks ago, but (a) I'm not sure if it's still going on or (b) whether it is being enforced and whether restaurants / beaches / clubs / etc are still open. Can anyone in Rio give an update on the on-the-ground situation? I've been to Rio once in 2017 and me and a friend were planning on coming the 4/2 weekend for 2 weeks. But now I'm not sure whether we should just wait if the bars / clubs are closed. Last time I was there, me and my friends went to Dolce Vita. And I liked the scene of picking up pros / 'working college girls' at a club environment (we didn't visit the termas).

Vagabundo1
03-20-21, 05:19
I spoke with a contact here about the covid guidance in SP.

He said that a business owner there was arrested for not complying, handcuffed, put in jail, had his head and beard shaved. Despite a judge releasing him, he now has a criminal record which prevents certain opportunities. So, this issue is in controversy.

How the rubber meets the road, here in barra / RJ, I have yet to see -- I haven't seen impacts here, except that restaurants like the bar around the corner from solarium are closing at 21 h when normally they would be open much longer.

In any case, it's a healthy thing to monger from sunrise to sunset. I need to follow this advice, as I type this at 01 h30 on Saturday morning!


The mayor of Rio had a press conference Thursday where he said he wants to close Rio de Janeiro but it wouldn't make sense unless the other states agree to close their borders too. Otherwise, we could fly into SP and then take a bus to Rio. I think they are closing buzios to foreigners as well.

HarryDubois
03-20-21, 12:44
I get it. A lot of men who pay for sex lack shall we say people skills. That's why they pay for it. But this forum is called a guide. You are supposed to be coming here for guidance. Which I am.

Now, in case anybody normal is reading this, how easy is to get BBFS in Rio?

HarryDubois
03-20-21, 13:13
I looked at Mr Pornhubs post history and got a good laugh. 126 posts just asking questions regarding dozens of countries and never travelling to none. Imagine how much time the forum members wasted on replying.I looked at this post and realized why you have to pay for it.

And by the way, out of those 126 posts, how many times did I get any worthwhile guidance? Five times?

This is the "International Sex Guide".

Really, the forum should be closed and you guys, you know who you are, should just set up some whatsapp groups to swap stories. Get with the technology.

How do you find BBFS in Rio? I have searched the forum. Most common answer is "You can't". But some answer "You can, maybe, like 10% chance. " Is it mainly black women? Less expensive women? Less experienced? Or just good luck? And I have been fixed by the way.

With condoms, I don't see it worth flying 10,000 miles.

Golfinho
03-20-21, 15:03
I looked at this post and realized why you have to pay for it.
And by the way, out of those 126 posts, how many times did I get any worthwhile guidance? Five times.
With condoms, I don't see it worth flying 10,000 miles.Some worthwhile guidance: if you can't get it up in a condom, find another girl. It clearly can't be your fault.

Vagabundo1
03-20-21, 16:12
The restaurants like joia carioca, rua jardim botanico 594, closed at 21 h last night.


Does anyone know if Rio is 'closed?' -- I. E, bars / restaurants are not open after 5 pm or whatever time? I saw that it was announced 2-3 weeks ago, but (a) I'm not sure if it's still going on or (b) whether it is being enforced and whether restaurants / beaches / clubs / etc are still open. Can anyone in Rio give an update on the on-the-ground situation? I've been to Rio once in 2017 and me and a friend were planning on coming the 4/2 weekend for 2 weeks. But now I'm not sure whether we should just wait if the bars / clubs are closed. Last time I was there, me and my friends went to Dolce Vita. And I liked the scene of picking up pros / 'working college girls' at a club environment (we didn't visit the termas).

Sperto
03-20-21, 17:30
Does anyone know if Rio is 'closed?
Regarding beaches. What I've heard from a friend, read in the papers and seen on Copa webcam, at least Copacabana beach is actually empty. I'm surprised they managed to achieve this.

Dasisextra
03-20-21, 18:49
Regarding beaches. What I've heard from a friend, read in the papers and seen on Copa webcam, at least Copacabana beach is actually empty. I'm surprised they managed to achieve this.Beaches are closed today and tomorrow. Looking at an empty Copacabana beach from my hotel window, it's a very strange sight with the sun shining.

Dasisextra
03-20-21, 18:55
Does anyone know if Rio is 'closed?' -- I. E, bars / restaurants are not open after 5 pm or whatever time? I saw that it was announced 2-3 weeks ago, but (a) I'm not sure if it's still going on or (b) whether it is being enforced and whether restaurants / beaches / clubs / etc are still open. Can anyone in Rio give an update on the on-the-ground situation? I've been to Rio once in 2017 and me and a friend were planning on coming the 4/2 weekend for 2 weeks. But now I'm not sure whether we should just wait if the bars / clubs are closed. Last time I was there, me and my friends went to Dolce Vita. And I liked the scene of picking up pros / 'working college girls' at a club environment (we didn't visit the termas).Centro termas open, official till 21.00 on, why, that means they are not letting you in after that hour but the party goes on much later. Was at T65 yesterday, only left at 23.30, heard they were staying open till 2 am.

Frenchieboy
03-20-21, 20:28
Regarding beaches. What I've heard from a friend, read in the papers and seen on Copa webcam, at least Copacabana beach is actually empty. I'm surprised they managed to achieve this.A carioca friend told me that beaches are closed in Rio and curfew from 11 pm to 5 am.

Vagabundo1
03-20-21, 23:11
BBFS has been covered by me and johnny walker read the forum.

Respectfully you'd not be a good fit. You would best be served by not coming. You should not write here about it. Good luck though.


I looked at this post and realized why you have to pay for it.

And by the way, out of those 126 posts, how many times did I get any worthwhile guidance? Five times?

This is the "International Sex Guide".

Really, the forum should be closed and you guys, you know who you are, should just set up some whatsapp groups to swap stories. Get with the technology.

How do you find BBFS in Rio? I have searched the forum. Most common answer is "You can't". But some answer "You can, maybe, like 10% chance. " Is it mainly black women? Less expensive women? Less experienced? Or just good luck? And I have been fixed by the way.

With condoms, I don't see it worth flying 10,000 miles.

HarryDubois
03-21-21, 07:29
Some worthwhile guidance: if you can't get it up in a condom, find another girl. It clearly can't be your fault.It's not the erection, it's how it feels. I'm actually having sex with a plastic shopping bag not a woman. How is that even called sex? And the Philippines are locked down to visitors.


Regarding beaches. What I've heard from a friend, read in the papers and seen on Copa webcam, at least Copacabana beach is actually empty. I'm surprised they managed to achieve this.It's a little thing called police with guns and handcuffs. It's been happening here in Israel (lots of nice beaches here) on and off for the past year. However should I consider booking a hotel and a flight for April? It sounds to me like the next step could be closing the airports. Air Portugal seems to have just cancelled all flights to Brazil until June.


BBFS has been covered by me and johnny walker read the forum.
Respectfully you'd not be a good fit. You would best be served by not coming. You should not write here about it. Good luck though.There are contradictory comments here about the BBFS option and the consensus is "no". I was wondering if there might be a way to raise the odds.

I'm lonely and I'm old and I'm single. When I was young and good looking I had great sex with a young and good looking partner. I want that back desperately. But how? Thank God for porn but that's not really sex. So what about sex workers? I have sometimes gone to strip clubs and paid girls to just sit and talk to me and most of the time I liked that. But it's also not same. Sugar babies. I need a lot more sugar. So how about prostitutes? In wealthy countries, US or Israel, paying hundreds of dollars an hour is above my budget. I need to get a lot of bang for my buck. So I am always hunting around for that really good deal, high quality, low cost and then maybe I'll feel some of that magic again; I'm not sure if it's love or lust but it made me happy once upon a time. Or maybe that ship has sailed and I should just give up and hang myself. Tough decisions.

The Cane
03-21-21, 12:39
I'm lonely and I'm old and I'm single.And that's exactly how you're going to remain too as long as you keep this up. Most of the regulars here are doers and not dreamers when it comes to this "hobby", so we just don't have the patience. We've seen many a dreamer come and go, wasting other people's time. If you're going to try to stick around here, become a doer. Like you said, this is a guide. It's not a Dear Abby column. So, stop moping and whining and wasting people's time. No, get up off of your hind parts and get out there and try something new for a change! Because if you don't then lonely, old, and single is definitely going to be a permanent part of your future.

Dasisextra
03-21-21, 15:34
How do you find BBFS in Rio? I have searched the forum. Most common answer is "You can't". But some answer "You can, maybe, like 10% chance. " Is it mainly black women? Less expensive women? Less experienced? Or just good luck? And I have been fixed by the way.

With condoms, I don't see it worth flying 10,000 miles.It's available everywhere, just as easy in Rio as in So Paulo, sometimes extra cost, sometimes not, depends on the girl & your interaction with her. I don't speak Portuguese so it's down to google, had 2 BBFS sessions on Friday. Nothing to do with the standard of the venue, sometimes easier at mid level places sometimes not. I have managed it at clinicas & at Scandallo and most levels in between.

Is Brazil worth the trip? Hell yes my friend.

Turgid
03-21-21, 16:18
....Just one final big philosophical question: How is sex with a working girl better than masturbating while watching a working girl have sex on Pornhub? I'm very serious. If you know that she's just doing it for the cash and the minute the cash is gone, she will stop returning your calls, plus you've got to wear a condom which I personally hate, what's the point really? Upside of porn: free, super convenient, no STDs, no sudden national shutdowns or stray bullets from gang wars to deal with, etc.We have five senses. With sex with porn we only use three of those senses (sight, feeling and hearing). With sex with a working girl we use all five senses even though she's just doing it for the cash and may hate us.

Turgid
03-21-21, 16:32
When I was a university student, I met lots and lots of people from New York City. One thing that struck me about almost all of them was how worldly and sophisticated they thought they were. Well, as I got to know those individuals more, something struck me about them. Many of them had not been to many other places in their lives outside of New York, which they viewed to be the center of the universe, sometimes even getting into heated arguments with each other over who knew the most about the Big Apple, much to my amusement. The fact of the matter was that with time I discovered that there was nothing "worldly" or "sophisticated" about nearly all of them because they hadn't been anywhere other than New York! And it showed. Yes, New York is a great American city. But, it isn't the world. It's just a small part of it. To be worldly, you've got to see and experience the world. As much of it as you can. Because New York alone isn't going to be nearly enough. That doesn't cut it.TBH back in the 1970's and 80's I had no reason to be anywhere other than NYC even though I occasionally travelled abroad back then. Everything you needed back then was there for the taking in the Big Apple. The best times of my life were in that wonderful city back then. Its a different city now. I'd rather be in Frankfurt, Rio or Bangkok, which I'm hoping to be after the demise of this virus.

Wolvman
03-21-21, 20:55
Just one final big philosophical question: How is sex with a working girl better than masturbating while watching a working girl have sex on Pornhub? I'm very serious. If you know that she's just doing it for the cash and the minute the cash is gone, she will stop returning your calls, plus you've got to wear a condom which I personally hate, what's the point really? Upside of porn: free, super convenient, no STDs, no sudden national shutdowns or stray bullets from gang wars to deal with, etc.Your brain and body doesn't care that you paid for sex. For body and brain sex is sex. When you have real sex hormones and rewards are activated for trying to procreate and you feel better and you will be more healthy thanks to stress lowering hormones like oxytocin. When you are masturbating your body knows it's not real sex, hormones are rewards are not released and you will feel worse because your brain will punish you for not trying to spread your genes. Also, porn will make you impotent. Your hand is much tighter grip than pussy and porn is more dopamine release than real sex, it will fuck your body and mind. Porn is pushed on men to profit from their misery. So sex with real girl is infinite better for mental and physical health than masturbation.

Spidy
03-21-21, 21:23
And that's exactly how you're going to remain too as long as you keep this up. Most of the regulars here are doers and not dreamers when it comes to this "hobby", so we just don't have the patience. We've seen many a dreamer come and go, wasting other people's time. If you're going to try to stick around here, become a doer. Like you said, this is a guide. It's not a Dear Abby column. So, stop moping and whining and wasting people's time. No, get up off of your hind parts and get out there and try something new for a change! Because if you don't then lonely, old, and single is definitely going to be a permanent part of your future.Well said, couldn't agree more.

CrazyMan
03-21-21, 21:58
About BBFS. This doesn't apply specifically to Rio.

I am a not so handsome fat bloke nearing 50. My experience since starting mongering at 18 is that if you are nice to the girls, appear hygienic, flatter them. Then over 50% of the girls will allow BBFS. Best chance for me has always been with relatively new girls to the profession. Flatter them, act like they are your girlfriend, do long foreplay so they get wet. Once they are wet and in love they will ask you to please stick it in consequences be damned. They will most of the times not even ask but mount you and stick it in.

This worked for me three times with black / mixed girls in Sao Paulo. A 100% success ratio.

The key is simply avoid discussing condom use with the girl. Every time she brings it up say. Later. We play first. Then make her as wet as possible.

I prefer Asian and black girls or mixed ones. Especially many black girls get wet easily and once they are wet they more or less loose control and will let you finish inside if you so please.

Vagabundo1
03-21-21, 22:42
Up Periscope.

Artisttyp
03-21-21, 22:48
TBH back in the 1970's and 80's I had no reason to be anywhere other than NYC even though I occasionally travelled abroad back then. Everything you needed back then was there for the taking in the Big Apple. The best times of my life were in that wonderful city back then. Its a different city now. So true. Born and raised 1969 - 2015.

You couldn't drag me away from the city during the 70's / 80's. If I left for 3 days I felt I was missing out on something. It truly was the center of the universe. The world came to see you. No need to travel.

About mid 90's it started going to shit little by little. Now it is no doubt a second rate city. The sad part is it was done intentionally. NYC could still be amazing but politicians don't want it.

Parties every night of the week if you wanted. Lots of underground scenes to get into. Hookers peep shows affordable escorts soapies etc. Even $5 crack hoes who suck D behind dumpsters.

Its ok though. The ruin of NYC lead me to Tijuana and the rest (ISG) was to follow.

GashaTerapias
03-21-21, 22:58
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Combo
03-21-21, 23:34
I try to avoid bareback, but from experience, it can be had in Brasil and most other countries. The way to do it is to find a lady you click with and repeat a few times. There is a good chance that at some point, she'll initiate it. Usually by just mounting you when she's on top or sitting in your lap.

IMO that's a good reason to NOT repeat or get too friendly.

The Cane
03-22-21, 01:07
I try to avoid bareback, but from experience, it can be had in Brasil and most other countries. The way to do it is to find a lady you click with and repeat a few times. There is a good chance that at some point, she'll initiate it. Usually by just mounting you when she's on top or sitting in your lap.

IMO that's a good reason to NOT repeat or get too friendly.There was a Brazilian girl I met years back at L'uomo. We came damn near close to going bareback during our very first session, but wecboth fought it and held back. I repeated with her at the terma a second time, and damn near same thing happened! She was supposed to come to my hotel at another time for a session. I promised to call her but didn't, and blew her off instead. And why? Because I was afraid it was finally going to happen. That she would come over, and that we would finally start having sex without condoms. And the last thing I wanted was a baby with a prostitute! A tute from a distant and faraway land at that. But damn did she have some good Brasiliera morena pussy! Just made me erupt inside of her!

Combo
03-22-21, 04:17
There was a Brazilian girl I met years back at L'uomo. We came damn near close to going bareback during our very first session, but wecboth fought it and held back. I repeated with her at the terma a second time, and damn near same thing happened! She was supposed to come to my hotel at another time for a session. I promised to call her but didn't, and blew her off instead. And why? Because I was afraid it was finally going to happen. That she would come over, and that we would finally start having sex without condoms. And the last thing I wanted was a baby with a prostitute! A tute from a distant and faraway land at that. But damn did she have some good Brasiliera morena pussy! Just made me erupt inside of her!I've been through the same sequence many times. If I find things developing to that point, I cut it off. Not only do I not want to knock up a prepago, I also don't want to develop feelings, which can happen.

Vagabundo1
03-22-21, 05:11
BBFS Alexia Belucci, karlamodel mulatta Adriana Porto 2008-2010.

I had a similar scenario with Alexia Belucci / Ingra.

But when she gave it to me raw on our first pernoite, I loved every minute of the 7-9 hours total that we fucked and sucked, half of it 69, the other half with her in all positions.

She told me that it was her first sex for like 3 months, after one of her epic Italian trips.

She was trying to get preggers, and a rich world sugar daddy, and took me back to her zona oest home in her car, where her son was in a bedroom out in the front of the shack.

I don't regret getting her raw, it was awesome, I only regret not hitting her holes more raw. In fact, she may have my kid, since she supposedly got married and had a new kid in the right timeframe of one of our trysts.

I was doing triathlons, and like Sperto, I was biking some good distances, and that training goes well for obvious physiological reasons with fitness in the right areas of the body for triathlon sex.

She hates me for those pernoites, because her pussy is a time clock on a taxi cab, and I only paid her 300 reais or something, which is what she would get charged out at for an hour at 4 x4 where she worked as ingra.

Mayara Rodrigues was also on the same hooker sites in the same era of 2008-2010.

Karlamodels and the other agency site were up. You could get those girls for 120 for 120 minutes. I remember getting one of the big titted mulattas famous for anal, and I drilled that mulatta up her ass for almost 2 hours, but I saved my milk for alexia later that night.

I found the mulatta on archive. Org. Her name is Adriana Porto.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100207231025/http://www.karlamodels.net/principal.html

Morena, indecepcionável, 19 anos, corpo desenhado, 1,65 de altura, manequim 38, bumbum redondinho, completinha, adoro beijar muito.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100207231025/http://www.karlamodels.net/principal.html


I've been through the same sequence many times. If I find things developing to that point, I cut it off. Not only do I not want to knock up a prepago, I also don't want to develop feelings, which can happen.

Vagabundo1
03-22-21, 05:16
https://www.xvideos.com/video61838337/pool

Video taken with GoPro 7 in scuba housing, highly recommended.

She asked for these videos.


Up Periscope.

Vagabundo1
03-22-21, 05:32
Transamerica, Barra.

My list of girls to do spans all states in Brazil, and now some others in South America, including Colombia, just counting the women here in Barra. One in Venezuela too.

I got some backstory from the front desk guy on Transamerica Hotel / Mediterraneo Condo.

4 years ago, a man and his girlfriend (a cop) were murdered on the 8th floor. His security was not outside. He was on parole. He had been involved in the lottery. The major corporate sponsors left. They turned this into a condo. Since then like 3 hookers -- male and female -- have jumped to their deaths.

It could easily be a Netflix special like that on the Cecil hotel in LA's skid row.

You can't make this stuff up.

PatmarBeleza1
03-22-21, 06:37
I have enjoyed top terma girls raw with no regrets.


I've been through the same sequence many times. If I find things developing to that point, I cut it off. Not only do I not want to knock up a prepago, I also don't want to develop feelings, which can happen.

The Cane
03-22-21, 18:39
I have enjoyed top terma girls raw with no regrets.How many of those have been brancas? I see guys talking about negras and morenas. Who in here does top brancas "raw dog"?

Mr Enternational
03-22-21, 22:00
One of my friends said the government is on TV now saying everything is going to shut down for 10 days. The only things open will be pharmacies, supermarkets, bakeries, and gas stations.

Vagabundo1
03-22-21, 22:53
For 50, I banged a girl at sala 1406. She promised sem, but in the room she said it was just blow job, typical Brazilian upsell, but it was fine, I blew a load covered in her vag after a good face fucking.

At the new secret terma, I banged for 120 a girl I guess I will call Anne amari, 18, BBFS.

One gripe is the Brazilians never have change for 100 or 200. I even got this on the bus ride home today on the 309 from central. I gave the driver 20, and he was like, just wait and I will get you change later, which is not a big deal, but man is every person, store, etc starved of dinheiro.

Barra beaches are open. I had a nice stroll in the surf between posto 5 and 6 before walking back to Transamerica.

Kcrl01
03-23-21, 01:32
One gripe is the Brazilians never have change for 100 or 200. I even got this on the bus ride home today on the 309 from central. I gave the driver 20, and he was like, just wait and I will get you change later, which is not a big deal, but man is every person, store, etc starved of dinheiro.
If they don't have change you ride for free.

Member #4729
03-23-21, 03:49
I'm enjoying this chatter about BBFS. I don't have any experience in Brazil yet (coming down in May for 10 weeks), but I have ample experience all over SEA and LATAM. Girls most willing to raw-dog by far are Filipinas, who usually never even ask. They also let you CIP. Thai girls are a mixed bag, a few agree up front- other times they are reluctant but then once we start smashing and the girl gets into it she will allow the condom to drop. Some hold steady, but almost all will allow CIM or COF. Cambodian girls seem pretty open to raw, as do Indonesians and Burmese but never in Malaysia. In LATAM: found it in DR, Colombia, occasionally in Costa Rica (never, ever in Jaco), and only BBBJ not FS in Curacao. Asia is definitively better for BBFS than LATAM, but I'm looking for something new, so off to Brazil.

I've yet to get an STD, but I always take doxycycline pro-actively before a night on the town- I heard this is something gay dudes do. Also I recently bought some generic Truvada (PreP) from some online Indian pharmacy and will be taking that this summer. I think your chances of getting HIV are much much higher if you do anal (which I rarely do with SW), and even higher if you, yourself take it in the A (which is to say its always more risky for the girl).

As for possible pregnancy- I inject Testosterone Cypionate replacement once a week for the last decade which has been nothing but positive for me aside from high red blood cell count (get phlebotomies a few times a year to counteract) and one side effect is that I ain't got no sperm anymore. Been tested and everything. Even still my assumption is that these girls taking it raw are on birth control, although a girl in the Philippines claimed she wasn't but that was no doubt to set up a scam and claim I got her pregnant.

In general women find raw much more enjoyable, and if you are not disgusting looking those that like it raw don't seem to mind if you drop a load in there. I've had several SW grind on me after dropping load and have orgasms on it.

Again, I can't speak for Brazil, but my guess is anything is possible if you are somewhat attractive, have money, and good negotiating skills- and also know when not to push and just accept the condom. I will not do a covered BJ, so always ask about that before any money is agreed and if she says no, I walk. I'm actually wondering what the Terma / Prive etiquette on that was but suppose I will find out. Not a bad idea to get a visual on the entry points as well and then make the call for a condom if there are suspicious skin colors.

Really looking forward to coming down, possibly meeting some of you guys. Anyone into any swinger shit? Always wanted to DP a SW (not into swordplay, just giving it to her).

Vagabundo1
03-23-21, 05:07
Ingra (her name at 4 x 4), Alexia belucci (her freelancer name) was Italian.

https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=63041&p=1375921&hilit=alexia+belucci#p1375921.

https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=95167&p=1602152&hilit=alexia+belucci#p1602152.

In the culture that is Brazil, I could argue that Italians are at the top, even above blonds. I know you're scoring this game from somewhere outside Brazil, so I'll put in my two cents.

Italian culture is Brazil in microcosm -- the further you get away from the equator (further North in Italy, further South in Brazil, the more civilized and colder you get). Curitiba is colder, more organized than Rio, and so to both of those cities than Salvador.

Italy is even more so than Portugal, the spiritual home of Brazil / South American / Latin American culture -- it is the home of the popes, which is the sequel to city of god, the archetypal movie (the movie, the two popes is made by the same filmakers).

In any case, Alexia Belucci, 1.74 m in height, was top by all accounts (see above links), and see the pictures. That ass, that bundinha. Not a bundao, not a bunda, a bundinha. An italian bundinha. And those tits, those enormous aereloas. And she could use it all, that pussy, her ass if you wanted it, which I generally didn't on the pernoites. She was 1.74 m in height, not 1.7. She was tall and commanding, with an aqueline nose, sharp italian features and eyes, and italian culture.

But at the end of the day, it was the sex. She was a great fuck, a hot ride, in cowgirl, and best pernoite, at her apartment in princesa isabela, or in my rental at djalma ulrich, or at motel salou in Campo Grande.

Brancas? Morenas? The distinctiion misses the point. Italians are romans. The romans are the dominant race of western culture, the noblest of the noble savages, even more than the Germans themselves. The romans tamed not just the Germans, but also the celts, the scots, and they did so with the bloodlines in alexia belucci's perfectly proportioned hips, legs and ass. When you slid your cock into that pussy, you entered the ancient colosium, just as surely as the gladiator, and the best way to do so was without a helmet.


How many of those have been brancas? I see guys talking about negras and morenas. Who in here does top brancas "raw dog"?

HarryDubois
03-23-21, 05:27
Made by some people here. About pregnancy I have a low sperm count. About STDs, I figure that antibiotics will fix gonorrhea.

Perhaps this will count as a small contribution of my own:

There are still cheap flights going into Sao Paulo, but Rio not so much.

Based on some whatsapp chats, there seems to be a shift of working girls to SP from Rio, although business seems to be slow in SP as well. Brazil is going into lockdown, SP has a curfew from 20:00 to 05:00, the Brazilian economy is in recession, bodies are piling up from COVID, however for those who will be stopped by nothing, I believe that bargains are to be had in SP.

Xpartan
03-23-21, 06:14
So, stop moping and whining and wasting people's time. No, get up off of your hind parts and get out there and try something new for a change! Because if you don't then lonely, old, and single is definitely going to be a permanent part of your future.Technically speaking you can't fix old, but you can die trying.

Other than that, couldn't agree more.

Pooloo3232
03-23-21, 06:26
One of my friends said the government is on TV now saying everything is going to shut down for 10 days. The only things open will be pharmacies, supermarkets, bakeries, and gas stations.Ah okay, that is helpful. Have they said whether everything will be open after the 10 day lockdown (guessing April 4th, Sunday)? Or they may just keep a rolling lockdown?

Xpartan
03-23-21, 06:31
Karlamodels and the other agency site were up. You could get those girls for 120 for 120 minutes.

Could and did. Of course, those days 120 reals was closer to $60 than $20. But still a bargain! I could've filled my whole trip to Brazil with Karla models, no need to go out. And the first girl you booked would bring a catalog, so you could plan ahead, LOL.

HarryDubois
03-23-21, 09:31
Many women will ask a man to wear a condom when giving him oral sex (although thankfully this is not true of most prostitutes in Brazil). But which woman offers to put on a dental dam before a man goes down on her? That also carries an STD risk.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/ask-experts/if-you-had-an-std-and-someone-wants-to-go-down-on-you-can-they-get-it

Can you picture this? A woman wants you to go down on her and you tell her "Fine. Have you got a dental dam?" Probably she will reply "What's a dental dam?

No one uses it because a no woman is going to feel anything through a dental dam! #freethepenis.

Vagabundo1
03-23-21, 13:15
Yesterday I went to RB185/2114 - belprazer at 11 h.

There were 3-4 girls, 5's and 6's, including a cute negra. I will be back.

Onix has moved and is no longer in its suite on the same floor. 2104 I think. There is a new therapy place there.

At RB156, I went through the line to cadastrar (register) to go up. They asked for a CPF. I did not have one, so they just gave me a pass. They didn't ask for ID or anything. So it is harmless. I guess they could be taking your picture, but they can be doing that anytime. In fact, at Gavea Shopping you enter the mall and go past a camera. They don't stop you, but they are clearly taking pictures of everyone.

So, I went up to 3320 - Duda's.

There were 2 girls, one a nice ass, but nothing done.

Then I went on to the previously described TDM33.

The Cane
03-23-21, 15:25
How many of those have been brancas? I see guys talking about negras and morenas. Who in here does top brancas "raw dog"?That's just what I thought. Like ZebraStripes wrote, it's easy in the Philippines!

Turgid
03-23-21, 18:19
Many women will ask a man to wear a condom when giving him oral sex (although thankfully this is not true of most prostitutes in Brazil). But which woman offers to put on a dental dam before a man goes down on her? That also carries an STD risk.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/ask-experts/if-you-had-an-std-and-someone-wants-to-go-down-on-you-can-they-get-it

Can you picture this? A woman wants you to go down on her and you tell her "Fine. Have you got a dental dam?" Probably she will reply "What's a dental dam?

No one uses it because a no woman is going to feel anything through a dental dam! #freethepenis.Be careful with the dental dam guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2v7jlIBL1A

Bravo
03-23-21, 18:27
One of my buddies had his phone stolen Saturday in the DR and when he called it, the person demanded 1,000 dollars to get it back. He paid the money because he had pictures on the phone that had great sentimental value. I was thinking about all the times I used my personal phone while in Brazil and realized I would be royally fucked if I lost it or had it stolen.

Can someone recommend a good phone that they use when traveling to Brasil? Something I can purchase a chip for and get local service while keeping my personal phone in the safe at the hotel? (I am searching Amazon but not really sure what to look for).

WyattEarp
03-23-21, 19:39
BBFS Alexia Belucci, karlamodel mulatta Adriana Porto 2008-2010.

I had a similar scenario with Alexia Belucci / Ingra.

But when she gave it to me raw on our first pernoite, I loved every minute of the 7-9 hours total that we fucked and sucked, half of it 69, the other half with her in all positions.

She told me that it was her first sex for like 3 months, after one of her epic Italian trips.

She was trying to get preggers, and a rich world sugar daddy, and took me back to her zona oest home in her car, where her son was in a bedroom out in the front of the shack.

I don't regret getting her raw, it was awesome, I only regret not hitting her holes more raw. In fact, she may have my kid, since she supposedly got married and had a new kid in the right timeframe of one of our trysts..Vagabundo, your mulatta friend above has a gorgeous pair of breasts.

I remember those days where you would hook-up with 4 x4 girl and a few months later come across her in a Brazilian porn. It was kind of like a replay in your head watching her scene.

There was a sweet girl who worked at 4 x 4 circa 2002-2004 who would sit quietly on the couch. Let's call her a backbencher. She would just sit there watching the party. Out of curiosity, I took her to the cabin. Nothing spectacular in terms of sex. Just what I would call an "OK" girl. Can I do anal? OK Can I come in your mouth? OK She was just a very chill girl.

Needless to say, she showed up in a porno or two. As expected, she wasn't some crazy porn performer. She was just a nice, sweet and pretty girl.

Then there was the blonde, big T&A Kelly who worked the scene on Avenida Atlantica. Now she was a performer. I think Kelly and Natasha (both here below) were two of the hottest Brasileiras to ever do porn. Never ran into Natasha, but I'm sure she was around somewhere.

https://de.xvideos.com/video2691216/coochie_cuttas_3

WyattEarp
03-23-21, 20:05
In the culture that is Brazil, I could argue that Italians are at the top, even above blonds. I know you're scoring this game from somewhere outside Brazil, so I'll put in my two cents.

Italian culture is Brazil in microcosm -- the further you get away from the equator (further North in Italy, further South in Brazil, the more civilized and colder you get). Curitiba is colder, more organized than Rio, and so to both of those cities than Salvador.

Italy is even more so than Portugal, the spiritual home of Brazil / South American / Latin American culture -- it is the home of the popes, which is the sequel to city of god, the archetypal movie (the movie, the two popes is made by the same filmakers).While much of the Western world is now hypersensitive by this kind of "ethnic" talk, I always find it fascinating. It's our differences that make this world interesting. Hell, we have the "woke" mob even trying to vilify and censor discussion of gender differences.

There are some amazing Brazilian beauties with Italian (Roman) stock. Western Europeans particularly the Latin countries have this Roman infusion. I've mentioned that I enjoyed the company of a Barbarella girl who was of Italian descent. She looked like she walked off the pages of Penthouse. The great magic of Brazil is that this young, slender woman had that pop her in ass that you rarely find in Europe. It's not the common thought that everyone in Brazil has some African blood. That's too simple. Not everyone has this genetic history. There is something in the diet and the daily regimen of Brazilian life.

Also pages and pages have been written about the famous Brazilian sexuality. Perhaps, it's the remoteness and pragmatic nature of Brazilian Catholicism through the years combined with different sexual mores of the Native and African populations. Some of it can also be attributed to a history of male colonists coming without women putting an emphasis on progeny and not monogamy.

Vagabundo1
03-23-21, 21:07
Just use google photos and buy a cheap set of back up phones.

A good android can be bought new in Brazil for 1200 reais, which is 200 usd or so.


One of my buddies had his phone stolen Saturday in the DR and when he called it, the person demanded 1,000 dollars to get it back. He paid the money because he had pictures on the phone that had great sentimental value. I was thinking about all the times I used my personal phone while in Brazil and realized I would be royally fucked if I lost it or had it stolen.

Can someone recommend a good phone that they use when traveling to Brasil? Something I can purchase a chip for and get local service while keeping my personal phone in the safe at the hotel? (I am searching Amazon but not really sure what to look for).

Fblaze
03-23-21, 22:36
What's up guys. I never post reports but I'm eyeing travel dates for April 19-26 would like to know the over sentiment in Rio. So eager to explore and travel again.

Wolvman
03-23-21, 23:20
Also pages and pages have been written about the famous Brazilian sexuality. Perhaps, it's the remoteness and pragmatic nature of Brazilian Catholicism through the years combined with different sexual mores of the Native and African populations. Some of it can also be attributed to a history of male colonists coming without women putting an emphasis on progeny and not monogamy.I slept with tons of Brazilian girls and they area freaks in bed. They truly enjoy sex even if it is 'work'. Both males and females from Brazil are ultra-sexual in comparison to very cold and boring Europeans. My idea is it was created by sexual selection. When Portuguese came to Brazil they were offered 'wives' in exchange for simple items like nails, soon many of them have multiple hareems of local native girls. The girls who were most sexual were chosen by Portuguese sailors, had more offspring because they were provided food and shelter and the 'sex gene' spread in Brazilian society. The Portuguese sailors were also most probably best alpha-chads of medieval society the only ones who could survive long travel and possible war in Amazonia, it would explain high sex drive but also high crime rate. Brazil was created in one big orgy. The Brazilian butt comes most probably not from African by native Indian blood.

Vagabundo1
03-24-21, 00:35
I think the loss of karlamodels was a key shift in the market.

As has been said, most mongering could be satisfied with karlamodels.

You would call a land line, not a cell or WhatsApp.

There was one agency that serviced mainly barao do Flamengo hotel, and the other motel Malaga.

The girls would be walking up and down the street to barao.

They'd take a bus not a uber.

There were loiras, all shades.


Vagabundo, your mulatta friend above has a gorgeous pair of breasts.

I remember those days where you would hook-up with 4 x4 girl and a few months later come across her in a Brazilian porn. It was kind of like a replay in your head watching her scene.

There was a sweet girl who worked at 4 x 4 circa 2002-2004 who would sit quietly on the couch. Let's call her a backbencher. She would just sit there watching the party. Out of curiosity, I took her to the cabin. Nothing spectacular in terms of sex. Just what I would call an "OK" girl. Can I do anal? OK Can I come in your mouth? OK She was just a very chill girl.

Needless to say, she showed up in a porno or two. As expected, she wasn't some crazy porn performer. She was just a nice, sweet and pretty girl.

Then there was the blonde, big T&A Kelly who worked the scene on Avenida Atlantica. Now she was a performer. I think Kelly and Natasha (both here below) were two of the hottest Brasileiras to ever do porn. Never ran into Natasha, but I'm sure she was around somewhere.

https://de.xvideos.com/video2691216/coochie_cuttas_3

Vagabundo1
03-24-21, 00:38
I am quite glad to be un woke, haha.

I can't imagine how bad it is to be a normal dude in a rich world de facto Marxist country with the thought police hunting down non conformists.


While much of the Western world is now hypersensitive by this kind of "ethnic" talk, I always find it fascinating. It's our differences that make this world interesting. Hell, we have the "woke" mob even trying to vilify and censor discussion of gender differences.

There are some amazing Brazilian beauties with Italian (Roman) stock. Western Europeans particularly the Latin countries have this Roman infusion. I've mentioned that I enjoyed the company of a Barbarella girl who was of Italian descent. She looked like she walked off the pages of Penthouse. The great magic of Brazil is that this young, slender woman had that pop her in ass that you rarely find in Europe. It's not the common thought that everyone in Brazil has some African blood. That's too simple. Not everyone has this genetic history. There is something in the diet and the daily regimen of Brazilian life.

Also pages and pages have been written about the famous Brazilian sexuality. Perhaps, it's the remoteness and pragmatic nature of Brazilian Catholicism through the years combined with different sexual mores of the Native and African populations. Some of it can also be attributed to a history of male colonists coming without women putting an emphasis on progeny and not monogamy.

Spidy
03-24-21, 01:22
One of my buddies had his phone stolen Saturday in the DR and when he called it, the person demanded 1,000 dollars to get it back. Ouch! Those f'ing crazy Carioca extortionists MFs! Yeah, lesson learnt.


Can someone recommend a good phone that they use when traveling to Brasil? Something I can purchase a chip for and get local service while keeping my personal phone in the safe at the hotel? (I am searching Amazon but not really sure what to look for).I use and old Samsung S3, I bought off Ebay (I think) back in the day for $40, with cracked screen, that (funny enough) I got fixed in Rio at the Mercado Popular Uruguaiana, in centro. Still works!

If you or your friend are still in need of a 2nd phone, you could try buying a new / used phone at the Mercado Popular Uruguaiana (Uruguaiana train station in Centro) Or from more reputable sellers, dealers and repair services at the Electronics Mall (2-3 story building) at the other Rua Uruguaiana, right by the Carioca train station exit.

A 3rd option, would be to navigate OLX.com (Brazilian Ebay equivalent) and get a old or newer phone on the cheap.

Member #4729
03-24-21, 04:36
I am quite glad to be un woke, haha.

I can't imagine how bad it is to be a normal dude in a rich world de facto Marxist country with the thought police hunting down non conformists.It is profoundly awful. The recent social upheaval, racial moral panic, etc. Did coincide quite nicely with a long simmering decision to once and for all give up on dating civilian American females in order to pursue a life of international hedonism. Not going to lie- I was pulling in some nice tail in the USA up until my early forties but saw the handwriting on the wall and got out while I was ahead- it's always sad when great athletes play those final two seasons in defiance of natures mandates. Additionally as I'd be going for millennials -at this point I would need to affect some perfunctory progressive attitudes in order to run game which is a non-starter. No based women in my area.

I can travel about 4 months of the year and with my time in the USA I keep my head down and stack those bills. I imagine its similar to life aboard a cargo ship- just do your thing until the ship lands and then you get to live a little. At least I have those 4 months. This year was fucked though. Only made it out once to the DR. Upside is that stack of bills is extra high and ready to burn.

Vagabundo1
03-24-21, 05:49
Rio branco 156 floors 1-4 is where to buy new phones.

The used phones at metro uruguiana are bad. You're better off taking the same 300-400 and buying a 5 year old burner android at the stores near the same metro.


Ouch! Those f'ing crazy Carioca extortionists MFs! Yeah, lesson learnt.

I use and old Samsung S3, I bought off Ebay (I think) back in the day for $40, with cracked screen, that (funny enough) I got fixed in Rio at the Mercado Popular Uruguaiana, in centro. Still works!

If you or your friend are still in need of a 2nd phone, you could try buying a new / used phone at the Mercado Popular Uruguaiana (Uruguaiana train station in Centro) Or from more reputable sellers, dealers and repair services at the Electronics Mall (2-3 story building) at the other Rua Uruguaiana, right by the Carioca train station exit.

A 3rd option, would be to navigate OLX.com (Brazilian Ebay equivalent) and get a old or newer phone on the cheap.

Vagabundo1
03-24-21, 05:57
We saw this a year ago.

It's endemic.

What natives including sex workers in zona sul did was get monthly rates at zona norte sex motels until business picked back up.

Guiamotels.com.br or whatever the correct link is.

Transamerica hotel is a fully self contained sex worker colony. You may As well be in an Los Angeles class submarine with 125 of the latest talent on evilangel.com and 375 normal people like plastic surgeons, conservative Jews with their kids from Argentina, etc; but with a really good pool.

Sunday the girl whose ass I shot underwater with my go pro was getting picked up hard by a Brasileiro who had his 4 year old daughter sitting next to him.

It's a great scene.

Lock me down!

It's the hotel California.

You can check out any time you like but you can't never leave.


What's up guys. I never post reports but I'm eyeing travel dates for April 19-26 would like to know the over sentiment in Rio. So eager to explore and travel again.

Vagabundo1
03-24-21, 11:19
Best to use Google Fi.

Get data only cards for burner back up phones.

Get a local chip for 15 r at central train station.

Set google photos to auto upload.


One of my buddies had his phone stolen Saturday in the DR and when he called it, the person demanded 1,000 dollars to get it back. He paid the money because he had pictures on the phone that had great sentimental value. I was thinking about all the times I used my personal phone while in Brazil and realized I would be royally fucked if I lost it or had it stolen.

Can someone recommend a good phone that they use when traveling to Brasil? Something I can purchase a chip for and get local service while keeping my personal phone in the safe at the hotel? (I am searching Amazon but not really sure what to look for).

World Travel 69
03-24-21, 14:31
Here is their site: http://onixterapias.com/.
2235 according to this.



Yesterday I went to RB185/2114 - belprazer at 11 h.

There were 3-4 girls, 5's and 6's, including a cute negra. I will be back.

Onix has moved and is no longer in its suite on the same floor. 2104 I think. There is a new therapy place there.

At RB156, I went through the line to cadastrar (register) to go up. They asked for a CPF. I did not have one, so they just gave me a pass. They didn't ask for ID or anything. So it is harmless. I guess they could be taking your picture, but they can be doing that anytime. In fact, at Gavea Shopping you enter the mall and go past a camera. They don't stop you, but they are clearly taking pictures of everyone.

So, I went up to 3320 - Duda's.

There were 2 girls, one a nice ass, but nothing done.

Then I went on to the previously described TDM33.

Kcrl01
03-25-21, 01:31
I saw this babe's profile on escort program in Rio. When I arrived to the spot the girl I thought I was hooking up with handed me off to some other chick. Showed her the WhatsApp, explained that she was the girl was girl I was expecting to see, not the other *****. Got that figured out, but the girl I didn't want to see caught an attitude when I told her, "voce muito chata vai embora. " "You are very very boring, go away. " She kept interrupting, offering wine. Etc. All of which I did not care for, because I was balls deep in the other girl. Understand, I'm getting ready to come. At the the end she tried to triple charge me. WTF!

Curious as to anyone else having a similar experience.

Vagabundo1
03-25-21, 18:36
Where when?

They're desperate.


I saw this babe's profile on escort program in Rio. When I arrived to the spot the girl I thought I was hooking up with handed me off to some other chick. Showed her the WhatsApp, explained that she was the girl was girl I was expecting to see, not the other *****. Got that figured out, but the girl I didn't want to see caught an attitude when I told her, "voce muito chata vai embora. " "You are very very boring, go away. " She kept interrupting, offering wine. Etc. All of which I did not care for, because I was balls deep in the other girl. Understand, I'm getting ready to come. At the the end she tried to triple charge me. WTF!

Curious as to anyone else having a similar experience.

Kcrl01
03-26-21, 00:37
Where when?

They're desperate.Monday 22/03.

HelloIm
03-26-21, 00:44
I saw this babe's profile on escort program in Rio. When I arrived to the spot the girl I thought I was hooking up with handed me off to some other chick. Showed her the WhatsApp, explained that she was the girl was girl I was expecting to see, not the other *****. Got that figured out, but the girl I didn't want to see caught an attitude when I told her, "voce muito chata vai embora. " "You are very very boring, go away. " She kept interrupting, offering wine. Etc. All of which I did not care for, because I was balls deep in the other girl. Understand, I'm getting ready to come. At the the end she tried to triple charge me. WTF!

Curious as to anyone else having a similar experience.Was the other girl in the room while you were fucking the main girl? How did she offer you wine while you were balls deep in another girl?