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Vagabundo1
05-16-21, 23:41
http://m.associacaomediterraneo.com/
The free bus from Transamerica goes right by all three of the locations. You can find the schedule on the condo website.
It goes from Barra P6 to Gavea to Leblon beach, all along the beach to P1 at Leme, takes a left at Mabs, and then to Centro, Va Presidente Wilson 147, or "bedoiun" the Arab restaurant across from the US Consulate.
The bus is a great hack because it is a luxury turismo bus, and as such is much better than the city buses.
A uber fare from Barra to RB156 is a half hour in a prive with a top shelf prive girl.
First off, 4 x 4 yes. Monte Carlo no. While you're heading down to Centro to check out 4 x4, explore some of the Centro prives mentioned here before 4 x 4 really gets going after 5 pm.
Vagabundo1
05-17-21, 00:13
Only thing I would add is have a NSFW Social Media profile that doesn't disclose your real name, otherwise you expose yourself to extortion games by the working girls who share their strategies for shakedowns.
Mr Enternational gave some good advice.
The gents on the Seeking Arrangements thread gave some thoughts on this awhile back. In a country like Brazil where P4 P is open, legal and widely available, it seems SA is not a popular medium for hooking up. Perhaps that will change.
If you want a "date", you might be surprised how a termas girl might react positively to an offer of dinner and a romp. If you are hung-up on this "hardcore" concept, it seems like some guys work various social media real hard for weeks / months before arriving. Of course if a girl agrees to meet with and hints at sexual relations, you never know how many men she is meeting for sex. At least, you are getting the thrill of the chase that you will not have at a brothel or P4 P club. FYI, the ISG guys who play on Brazilian social media generally don't play there at the exclusion of the pro scene.
Member #4729
05-17-21, 01:42
LOL. And that is what I meant by tricking yourself. There is no website that chicks that are looking to get paid go to because they are low volume. You could not seriously think she got on the site to wait on reais from only 1 or 2 guys. Before or after those 1 or 2, what do you suppose she was doing or is going to do?I think this is really valid. Let's not kid ourselves-at the end of the day if you are paying you are paying. However, to the original posters point-with SA and the "low volume" lifestyle this guy is talking about there is a way in which the *girl* can deny the reality of her profession to *herself*. Many of these women will emphasize that they are "students", etc and envision-however unrealistically-a professional future because they are to some extent ashamed of what they have become.
After we broke up, I used to check in on the social media account of a stripper / working girl I used to date in the US (not a paid relationship) and would always notice how she would try to paint a picture of herself to the world as a sober, serious student with professional aspirations- which might've come true- but I'm sure she always felt like she was trying to hide from her past.
Vagabundo1
05-17-21, 01:46
Source of information on Hotel Ceara at VM. This makes all the difference as it is 150 meters from VM, 75 meters from Mosaico.
Rua Cear 221. It's impossible to miss when leaving VM.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=149294&d=1302444512
A better PDF-map ("Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map") in:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1143546&viewfull=1#post1143546.
P. S If the newbies need to orientate themselfes in VM:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=149295&d=1302444580
How would you know the difference? Hard core hookers go out on dates with guys. Just ask for that service.
The same way that you tell her you want to fuck her ass, you can tell her that you want to go see a play before going back to your place to fuck her in the ass. Back in the day you would see plenty of hard core hookers out on dates at Marius restaurant.
How can hard core mongers expect a site they use not be full of hard core hookers? You want to pay a chick to fuck, but you don't want it to be a chick that gets paid to fuck? Good luck with that one. You are not fucking and paying someone that has not been fucked and paid by someone else before. Just enjoy your turn without trying to trick yourself to believe she is hallowed or seldom-touched ground.Truer words have never been spoken. LOL.
What are all those babes from Tinder and SA doing when they aren't being paid playing girlfriends?
Exec Talent
05-17-21, 07:43
http://m.associacaomediterraneo.com/
The free bus from Transamerica goes right by all three of the locations. You can find the schedule on the condo website.
It goes from Barra P6 to Gavea to Leblon beach, all along the beach to P1 at Leme, takes a left at Mabs, and then to Centro, Va Presidente Wilson 147, or "bedoiun" the Arab restaurant across from the US Consulate.
The bus is a great hack because it is a luxury turismo bus, and as such is much better than the city buses.
A uber fare from Barra to RB156 is a half hour in a prive with a top shelf prive girl.Thanks for making it. Easily overlooked in the "is she really a ho?" discussion.
Brasil Nut
05-17-21, 20:33
It is interesting to note that the highest crime rate / murders per capita, year over year, are always in the smaller Brazilian cities (Natal, Fortaleza, Manaus, Recife, Aracaju even Macei).
Perhaps a bit puzzling to decipher, why smaller cities have high crime rates, than RJ / SP, but make of it, what you will.This might seem counter-intuitive but I think the gangs in Rio while contributing to the murder rate have a greater impact on keeping the number of overall murders down. For a time I felt safer in Rio favelas than in USA Hoods. Reason being unless you do some lame shit (vacilar) nobody is going to bother you. They actually can't, it's part of the favela code. For this reason I only go to strong favelas. Mare, Penha, Complexo do Alemao, Jacare, Manguinhos all have a strong code. Most favelas in Baixada I won't go to. Flimsy leadership and and bunch of broke MF'ers is a bad combo.
In smaller city favelas / slums the fear factor is lacking. People are willing to test the waters. In Rio, not so much. If you break laws of the favela you are judged by what's called the tribunal of trafico. If you get the thumbs down you're out of here like in ancient Rome. Right then and there you're done, usually in grotesque fashion. So that's a pretty strong motivation not to vacilar. Smaller cities don't have the same organization and structure to discourage. In the NE in Ceara, it's still like Rio was 30+ years ago. The gangs don't have G3 rifles, mostly 38's and shotguns. So the police kill a lot more bandits. They can enter favelas at will. In Rio, it has to be a planned operation. Also, there are more milicias which are basically dirty cops who also murder a lot. Overall a lot more freelancers not used to answering to anybody. At least that's what I've witnessed.
This might seem counter-intuitive but I think the gangs in Rio while contributing to the murder rate have a greater impact on keeping the number of overall murders down. For a time I felt safer in Rio favelas than in USA Hoods. Reason being unless you do some lame shit (vacilar) nobody is going to bother you. They actually can't, it's part of the favela code. For this reason I only go to strong favelas. Mare, Penha, Complexo do Alemao, Jacare, Manguinhos all have a strong code. Most favelas in Baixada I won't go to. Flimsy leadership and and bunch of broke MF'ers is a bad combo.
In smaller city favelas / slums the fear factor is lacking. People are willing to test the waters. In Rio, not so much. If you break laws of the favela you are judged by what's called the tribunal of trafico. If you get the thumbs down you're out of here like in ancient Rome. Right then and there you're done, usually in grotesque fashion. So that's a pretty strong motivation not to vacilar. Smaller cities don't have the same organization and structure to discourage. In the NE in Ceara, it's still like Rio was 30+ years ago. The gangs don't have G3 rifles, mostly 38's and shotguns. So the police kill a lot more bandits. They can enter favelas at will. In Rio, it has to be a planned operation. Also, there are more milicias which are basically dirty cops who also murder a lot. Overall a lot more freelancers not used to answering to anybody. At least that's what I've witnessed.You've got bigger balls than me! I've only been to that Favela right up from the Cantagalo metro station and from what I understand that's "Favela-lite. ".
Exec Talent
05-18-21, 01:16
This might seem counter-intuitive but I think the gangs in Rio while contributing to the murder rate have a greater impact on keeping the number of overall murders down. For a time I felt safer in Rio favelas than in USA Hoods. Reason being unless you do some lame shit (vacilar) nobody is going to bother you. They actually can't, it's part of the favela code. For this reason I only go to strong favelas. Mare, Penha, Complexo do Alemao, Jacare, Manguinhos all have a strong code. Most favelas in Baixada I won't go to. Flimsy leadership and and bunch of broke MF'ers is a bad combo.
In smaller city favelas / slums the fear factor is lacking. People are willing to test the waters. In Rio, not so much. If you break laws of the favela you are judged by what's called the tribunal of trafico. If you get the thumbs down you're out of here like in ancient Rome. Right then and there you're done, usually in grotesque fashion. So that's a pretty strong motivation not to vacilar. Smaller cities don't have the same organization and structure to discourage. In the NE in Ceara, it's still like Rio was 30+ years ago. The gangs don't have G3 rifles, mostly 38's and shotguns. So the police kill a lot more bandits. They can enter favelas at will. In Rio, it has to be a planned operation. Also, there are more milicias which are basically dirty cops who also murder a lot. Overall a lot more freelancers not used to answering to anybody. At least that's what I've witnessed.Toto,
I don't think we are in the tourist area of Rio anymore.
There was a time when the foreign media was fixated on the pacification of the favelas before the World Cup and Olympics. Those who knew I travelled often to Brazil asked me what I thought. I told them that drug lords in the favelas maintained order particularly over the young thugs (favela rats) who would otherwise be preying on tourists. After they were kicked out, that is exactly what happened. The favela rats were jumping up beside buses taking phones and necklaces. They didn't discriminate. Victims were tourists and natives alike. If you are a gringo visiting a favela one of the reasons you might be there is as a paying customer. Who wants to hurt a paying customer? Another reason is you may be with someone who lives there. Again, no reason to cause you harm.
Yes, it has become the norm at RB156.
However, you can tell them I don't have my ID. They will take a picture, which accomplishes the deterrence you suggest.What a pain in the ass, but it is what it is.
This might seem counter-intuitive but I think the gangs in Rio while contributing to the murder rate have a greater impact on keeping the number of overall murders down. For a time I felt safer in Rio favelas than in USA Hoods. Reason being unless you do some lame shit (vacilar) nobody is going to bother you. They actually can't, it's part of the favela code. For this reason I only go to strong favelas. Mare, Penha, Complexo do Alemao, Jacare, Manguinhos all have a strong code. Most favelas in Baixada I won't go to. Just out of curiosity, what attracts you to favelas?
Perhaps a bit puzzling to decipher, why smaller cities have high crime rates, than RJ / SP, but make of it, what you will.
There is an explaination why many cities in northeast amd north have very high murder rates. The last decades these regions had a quick economic growth. Unfortunately the public security have not grown much. The police forces are way to small and the prisons are crowded.
During the last decade many of the criminal organizations have grown very strong in these regions. Besides the big ones like Comando Vermelho and Primeiro Comando da Capital there are also lots of others like Terceiro Comando Puro, Amigos dos Amigos, Família do Norte and many more local organizations. They fight over territory and control of the drug trafficing. These fights combined with understaffed PM and violent milícias creates chaos and results in many people being killed.
Vagabundo1
05-18-21, 17:45
Sunday I linked up with a ISG member.
The non writing readers of ISG are quality.
We met some quality influencers here. Had dinner.
Monday, I was whatsapping with a girl at the former secret terma, who lured me into meeting her with the promise of a bare buceta.
When I got there it became clear it was a run around, so I left for T31.
The little crew of 5 souls was just opening.
I asked after Rihanna Noir, who is no more, alas.
I finally caught a city bus to VM, where I banged for 65 are.
I took a car back to barra and crashed.
In all, the cost of the cars on indriver (recommended, as you can set your price) was more than the girls.
Ana Foxxx who had been distant is messaging me for a pernoite, and I am happy about that.
One of the crew from the General's last patrol is coming in tomorrow, so we shall have an engov and go pick some pernoite candidates together from among the usual suspects.
Vagabundo1
05-18-21, 19:34
Both sides carry FN FAL.
Same bullets (7.62 x51 NATO) different magazines from G3.
Something you'd want to not screw up.
Toto,
I don't think we are in the tourist area of Rio anymore.
There was a time when the foreign media was fixated on the pacification of the favelas before the World Cup and Olympics. Those who knew I travelled often to Brazil asked me what I thought. I told them that drug lords in the favelas maintained order particularly over the young thugs (favela rats) who would otherwise be preying on tourists. After they were kicked out, that is exactly what happened. The favela rats were jumping up beside buses taking phones and necklaces. They didn't discriminate. Victims were tourists and natives alike. If you are a gringo visiting a favela one of the reasons you might be there is as a paying customer. Who wants to hurt a paying customer? Another reason is you may be with someone who lives there. Again, no reason to cause you harm.
Frenchieboy
05-18-21, 20:10
Just out of curiosity, what attracts you to favelas?I was two times deeply inside Rocinha with a guide living in this favela, I saw young men strongly armed, I saw old or fresh bullets holes on the walls I like to have adrenaline.
Member #4729
05-18-21, 22:39
Because if it was prescribed by a doctor he could take it over in his luggage with his prescription.Came through GRU this morning, nobody even looked in my direction. I think its safe to say your friend won't have any trouble bringing his stash in.
This might seem counter-intuitive but I think the gangs in Rio while contributing to the murder rate have a greater impact on keeping the number of overall murders down. For a time I felt safer in Rio favelas than in USA Hoods. Reason being unless you do some lame shit (vacilar) nobody is going to bother you. They actually can't, it's part of the favela code. For this reason I only go to strong favelas. Mare, Penha, Complexo do Alemao, Jacare, Manguinhos all have a strong code. Most favelas in Baixada I won't go to. Flimsy leadership and and bunch of broke MF'ers is a bad combo.
In smaller city favelas / slums the fear factor is lacking. People are willing to test the waters. In Rio, not so much. If you break laws of the favela you are judged by what's called the tribunal of trafico. If you get the thumbs down you're out of here like in ancient Rome. Right then and there you're done, usually in grotesque fashion. So that's a pretty strong motivation not to vacilar. Smaller cities don't have the same organization and structure to discourage. In the NE in Ceara, it's still like Rio was 30+ years ago. The gangs don't have G3 rifles, mostly 38's and shotguns. So the police kill a lot more bandits. They can enter favelas at will. In Rio, it has to be a planned operation. Also, there are more milicias which are basically dirty cops who also murder a lot. Overall a lot more freelancers not used to answering to anybody. At least that's what I've witnessed.I always thought that if I ever wanted to commit suicide I would not jump off a tall building, drink poison or shoot myself in the head; I'd just walk into a favela.
that drug lords in the favelas maintained order particularly over the young thugs (favela rats) who would otherwise be preying on tourists. After they were kicked out, that is exactly what happened. The favela rats were jumping up beside buses taking phones and necklaces. They didn't discriminate. Victims were tourists and natives alike. If you are a gringo visiting a favela one of the reasons you might be there is as a paying customer. Who wants to hurt a paying customer? Another reason is you may be with someone who lives there. Again, no reason to cause you harm.The favelas are being run the way all of Brazil used to be run back in the days of the Military Government.
Vagabundo1
05-19-21, 01:14
So I banged midori at VM for 80 r today, straight to anal, and blew a load.
Then I had fish at the galeto bandeira at praca bandeira, and walked over to motel Malaga and waited for a car at aconchego carioca.
I had headed into centro aiming for a certain ruiva (redhead) but when we messaged back and forth and she said she wanted to be paid before, I laughed (kkk), and went to another option.
Vagabundo1
05-19-21, 01:40
From 4 x 4. Made it through the fire, haha.
I was two times deeply inside Rocinha with a guide living in this favela, I saw young men strongly armed, I saw old or fresh bullets holes on the walls I like to have adrenaline.Just thought for a moment maybe those favela alleyways are paved with golden pussies. Good to know it's just about old, good bullet holes, LOL.
This might seem counter-intuitive but I think the gangs . . .
There is an explaination why many cities in northeast amd north have very high murder rates. . .
The conversation on crime rates in RJ / SP vs. Smaller cities, is being continued in "Rio de Janeiro. Crime & Safety" thread for those wishing to chime-in and add more to the topic.
Just trying to keep the Rio thread from being cluttered with Crime & Safety talk.
SoberHans69
05-19-21, 07:34
Came through GRU this morning, nobody even looked in my direction. I think its safe to say your friend won't have any trouble bringing his stash in.Obrigado, I'll let him know. He does look dodgy though mind haha.
One of the crew from the General's last patrol is coming in tomorrow, so we shall have an engov and go pick some pernoite candidates together from among the usual suspects.Are we talking about General Osório? I heard he comes back from the dead periodically to bonk garotas.
So I banged midori at VM for 80 r today, straight to anal, and blew a load.....I take it that it was sem condom. Good for you!
Vagabundo1
05-19-21, 19:32
Yep.
Straight to the core of the guava.
I take it that it was sem condom. Good for you!
Vagabundo1
05-20-21, 12:11
If you look back through the Canterbury Tales I have spun, you will find a lewd yarn from about 6 months ago referencing The General.
Alas The Admiral did not make it due to his covid tests preventing travel.
So, yesterday, being Wednesday, or my Sunday, God rested.
Have some sympathy, have some taste.
Are we talking about General Osrio? I heard he comes back from the dead periodically to bonk garotas.
Member #4729
05-20-21, 18:32
I've been here in Copacabana a few days and things are going well. Flight was a red-eye so the day I landed I crashed in my hotel (Royal Rio Palace) and just slept 12 hours through to get caught up. Royal Rio Palace did not, for that matter, appear to be girlfriendly- but was a good crash pad. The next day I got an early check in at an airbnb on Princesa Isabela, close to Atlantico. I will be here a week.
During that first real day I had been messaging a girl, Clara, on Brazilian Cupid and switched over to whatsapp. I aske her if we could meet for coffee, and she said she didn't like coffee, only expensive dinners, to which I laughed. Shortly after the mask came down and she asked if I wanted massage / sex to which I agreed. First she asked for 250, got her down to 200. I'm sure this is considered high but it was my first day and she looked very attractive. She came over to my airbnb later that day- there was no problem with her entering and we got to business. She was a bit taller than I expected (I prefer the mignon), but a very pretty face, beautiful eyes and nice silicone tits- probably in her late 20's early 30's. The oral she gave was amazing- exactly what I like- deep throat, gagging noises, etc etc. I came twice in her mouth and never got around to intercourse- which she would've required camisinha. Very smart girl, good English, gave me the inside scoop on many things. She said she now no longer works at termas but prefers tinder, etc because she has more choice and also has a legit part time job. Very sexy girl, will see her again and propose 150 for only oral.
That night I went out really with the intention of just looking but of course couldn't help myself. Checked out Kalabria, 9 or so decent looking girls, no men, 50 cover got two free drinks. Got a whatsapp of a skinny mulatta with giant tits, 18 yrs old. They said you could smash on premises but it looked costly- I'm still not sure what the procedure for these boates is?! Across the street Barbarella was dark- perhaps closed. What reads on the map as Cafe Sensoo America (is now The Black Cat- a gay bar. Made my way over to Marrakech, talked to a nice half japanese girl for a few minutes- nothing special in there unless you like bunda grande. Walked over to Dolce Vita, free cover- similar situation, seemed pretty empty. Mabs also looked bleak, no lookers but lots of bunda.
Struck up a conversation with Luma, an incredibly hot pardo (is that the correct term for Hispanic / msetizo). Just how I like 'them- very thin, small, incredibly beautiful face. Was asking 300, would do oral no condom, but not sex. I said I was just looking, and got the zapp- but of course once I got to my Airbnb I messaged offering 200, we settled on 250. She came up and we smashed. I was pretty worn out, so not the best performance, and she did not allow cum on face, so I just sort of went limp and gave her lip service to round it out. This girl is 100% what I like, possibly one of the prettiest girls I've done. She was down with kissing and laying on the bed with me for a long while before she went back to Dolce Vita to work some more. Her price is high but I'm sure I will call again. Apparently she's right across the street.
All in all a good start, now sure if I have the juice for an outing tonight- theoretically I will be here for 10 weeks more or so, so I feel no rush. Both my first experiences were fantastic. Seems like there's not a lot of guys around and its a buyers market. Weird how everyone wears a mask everywhere (not in clubs) - in the state I'm from people were pretty much done with all that just as I was leaving.
If you look back through the Canterbury Tales I have spun, you will find a lewd yarn from about 6 months ago referencing The General.
Alas The Admiral did not make it due to his covid tests preventing travel.
So, yesterday, being Wednesday, or my Sunday, God rested.
Have some sympathy, have some taste.Yeah well, sometimes it would be nice is you would just write in straight-forward, modern-day English LOL!
SinfullyKorean
05-21-21, 00:06
I've been here in Copacabana a few days and things are going well. Flight was a red-eye so the day I landed I crashed in my hotel (Royal Rio Palace) and just slept 12 hours through to get caught up. Royal Rio Palace did not, for that matter, appear to be girlfriendly- but was a good crash pad. The next day I got an early check in at an airbnb on Princesa Isabela, close to Atlantico. I will be here a week.
During that first real day I had been messaging a girl, Clara, on Brazilian Cupid and switched over to whatsapp. I aske her if we could meet for coffee, and she said she didn't like coffee, only expensive dinners, to which I laughed. Shortly after the mask came down and she asked if I wanted massage / sex to which I agreed. First she asked for 250, got her down to 200. I'm sure this is considered high but it was my first day and she looked very attractive. She came over to my airbnb later that day- there was no problem with her entering and we got to business. She was a bit taller than I expected (I prefer the mignon), but a very pretty face, beautiful eyes and nice silicone tits- probably in her late 20's early 30's. The oral she gave was amazing- exactly what I like- deep throat, gagging noises, etc etc. I came twice in her mouth and never got around to intercourse- which she would've required camisinha. Very smart girl, good English, gave me the inside scoop on many things. She said she now no longer works at termas but prefers tinder, etc because she has more choice and also has a legit part time job. Very sexy girl, will see her again and propose 150 for only oral.
That night I went out really with the intention of just looking but of course couldn't help myself. Checked out Kalabria, 9 or so decent looking girls, no men, 50 cover got two free drinks. Got a whatsapp of a skinny mulatta with giant tits, 18 yrs old. They said you could smash on premises but it looked costly- I'm still not sure what the procedure for these boates is?! Across the street Barbarella was dark- perhaps closed. What reads on the map as Cafe Sensoo America (is now The Black Cat- a gay bar. Made my way over to Marrakech, talked to a nice half japanese girl for a few minutes- nothing special in there unless you like bunda grande. Walked over to Dolce Vita, free cover- similar situation, seemed pretty empty. Mabs also looked bleak, no lookers but lots of bunda.
Struck up a conversation with Luma, an incredibly hot pardo (is that the correct term for Hispanic / msetizo). Just how I like 'them- very thin, small, incredibly beautiful face. Was asking 300, would do oral no condom, but not sex. I said I was just looking, and got the zapp- but of course once I got to my Airbnb I messaged offering 200, we settled on 250. She came up and we smashed. I was pretty worn out, so not the best performance, and she did not allow cum on face, so I just sort of went limp and gave her lip service to round it out. This girl is 100% what I like, possibly one of the prettiest girls I've done. She was down with kissing and laying on the bed with me for a long while before she went back to Dolce Vita to work some more. Her price is high but I'm sure I will call again. Apparently she's right across the street.
All in all a good start, now sure if I have the juice for an outing tonight- theoretically I will be here for 10 weeks more or so, so I feel no rush. Both my first experiences were fantastic. Seems like there's not a lot of guys around and its a buyers market. Weird how everyone wears a mask everywhere (not in clubs) - in the state I'm from people were pretty much done with all that just as I was leaving.Thanks for the FR, Zebra! Sounds like you really hit the ground running. And thanks for listing out the prices, too. That really helps.
Ugh, just my luck, or maybe bad planning on my part. Looks like roundtrip flights from SAO to RIO are about $100 now. I'll probably just enjoy my time in SP then. I was trying to book 3 weeks before the departure date, but prices have gone up from $30 to $120. It was $50 this morning, too. =(I was waiting to get off work before I book the flight.
Vagabundo1
05-21-21, 01:05
Well I'm fucking Monique pernoite 250 r.
It would be nice if you wrote about the present not 5+ years ago kkk.
Yeah well, sometimes it would be nice is you would just write in straight-forward, modern-day English LOL!
Yeah well, sometimes it would be nice is you would just write in straight-forward, modern-day English LOL!I don't know. I actually enjoy the storytelling, LOL.
I've been here in Copacabana a few days and things are going well. Flight was a red-eye so the day I landed I crashed in my hotel (Royal Rio Palace) and just slept 12 hours through to get caught up. Royal Rio Palace did not, for that matter, appear to be girlfriendly- but was a good crash pad. The next day I got an early check in at an airbnb on Princesa Isabela, close to Atlantico. I will be here a week.
All in all a good start, now sure if I have the juice for an outing tonight- theoretically I will be here for 10 weeks more or so, so I feel no rush. Both my first experiences were fantastic. Seems like there's not a lot of guys around and its a buyers market. Weird how everyone wears a mask everywhere (not in clubs) - in the state I'm from people were pretty much done with all that just as I was leaving.A good start sounds about right. Thanks for your write-up and keep them coming.
Vagabundo1
05-21-21, 03:42
Monique pernoite bareback anal looks just like Hazel in anal connisours tale from the Canterbury Tales.
That's just for my high school English teacher who reads this thread which is cross posted to the literature department at the Russian Embassy, haha.
Actually, I just did Monique a 22 year old negra who has an ass and pussy which looks just like Monique, the porn star, who John Buttman Stagliano thought was the best but was never recognized as such because she was black.
Look, for those of you at home who don't a certain person's posts, there is this ignore feature, which I use a lot.
I am paying 250 reais. I am actually here in Rio. I have a view of the Atlantic from a luxury tower hotel apartment with a big pool. It is going into winter so the weather is not great, but it is as noted by our recent actual arrival, a buyers market.
For 50 USD in a club like Hong Kong in Tijuana you would get maybe a half hour of bad service by some Mexican wench who does not have the positive attitude towards sex. On balance, though, the HK club shaving cream shows are creative, and for a buck you can finger a snatch but so what. Brazil is so much better.
And don't even get me started on the rich world strip clubs. My friends do say Montreal is nice, for North American bound folks.
Monger on. And cane, too bad they took that hazel video down from the internet. Maybe you can go back to the anal connoisseurs thread and pass around the baby wipes again.
Pahllus Maximus
05-21-21, 05:07
200 Real. Or less. For an hour of anal pounding is cool. Nothing like DFK whilst legs in the air and anal missionary. The best girls reach around and hold my balls at the same time. Life is good.
How much do Tinder / SA / Facebook girls usually charge for a multiple hours date? I always negotiate, or just tell them what my budget is, but want to get a sense of going rates in Rio. In Bogota I averaged $75-$100 per date, plus food or drinks if we go out. CDMX was pricier, $125-$150 was my usual expense per date. Some of them stayed overnight, but usually 4-5 hours total is what I'm expecting.
TiaVoyage25
05-21-21, 08:19
Well gents, it's about that time. Heading to Rio and SP in early June for about 6 weeks. I was planning to go in December / January, but ended up going to Colombia instead since they didn't require a PCR test at the time. Unfortunately, I was only there for about a week this time since the mayor of Bogota put in some pretty stringent restrictions. But I digress.
I did some significant RTFF (well over a hundred pages worth), read reports of distinction, and Bubba's Guide so I don't really have any questions to bother you gentlemen with. I will provide trip reports like I usually do on my Colombia trips.
The plan: Fly into SP then connect on over to Rio. Will start out in Ipanema to get a lay of the land for a few days, then head over to Copa, and possibly Barra later on as I figure things out on ground. I will spend the mornings / afternoons relaxing, reading, and drinking beers. The late afternoons and early evenings will be dedicated to the hobby. As per VB's recs, I will probably spend some time at the pool of Transamerica as well. After 10 days or so I'll likely head over to SP and stay for as long as necessary to compare the two cities. And of course visit Scandello. Depending on how I'm feeling / which city I like best, I'll either head back to Rio or stay in SP.
The women: There's probably some interesting psychoanalysis that can be done on me as a black man with an almost exclusive preference for brancas. In Colombia I have a good time but usually (read: only) go for women with a lighter skin tone than myself, and I'm already pretty light skinned for a black man. Therefore, I will be looking for big booty brancas / light skin morenas in my adventures. I plan to hit all the spots talked about here. Termas through (centro included), prives, and online from BarraVIP, etc. I've used SA and tinder in Colombia in the past with significant success, but it doesn't sound like there's much traction for that in Rio / SP, so will likely stick to what I've read about here.
Budget: I'm planning to be pretty thrifty as far as lodging goes so that I can spend more on the extracurriculars. I've read a lot of interesting posts about top shelf brancas vs. What you can find at places like VM so I'm curious to make the comparisons for myself and report back here just for another data point. If I spend less than 500 are a day on mongering, that'll be good for me. But, if I'm ordering from BarraVIP just for the sake of convenience then I imagine I'll find myself reaching that number pretty quickly. Looking at about 7000 USD or so for roughly 40 days on ground.
Misc: Working on getting Prep here in the US and my god it is an annoying, frustrating, and expensive process. Some board members have previously recommended it and even though I don't participate in BBFS, the tight booty holes of the big butt brancas are calling my name even as I type.
While I don't have questions and am not soliciting for advice, feel free to critique my plan as necessary if it suits your fancy. If anyone wants to meet up on ground from early-June through mid-July, feel free to send a PM. Like members active in the Colombia forum who I have met up with, you may be shocked at why a young (late 20's) good looking man with great social skills like myself is not out pursuing non-pros. Don't worry, I do that too, but to quote my father. A great man of similar age to likely many of the board members here. We all pay for sex in one way or another.
And when you say things like "when I was your age, I could go all night!" we both know you're lying, old man. If you're offended by this statement and we meet up, I'll express my condolences in the form of buying you a beer.
Cheers,
Tiavoyage.
I'm still not sure what the procedure for these boates is?! Across the street Barbarella was dark- perhaps closed.Yes Barbarella is No More. Closed last year, IIRC. Procedure for these boates: get their info and meet later, or take them out. That one might be the only boate in the area with on site room.
Vagabundo1
05-21-21, 13:08
I pay 250 r per day diaria, 3-5 pops a day.
Sometimes 400 r pernoite.
Thats 50 to 80 USD.
How much do Tinder / SA / Facebook girls usually charge for a multiple hours date? I always negotiate, or just tell them what my budget is, but want to get a sense of going rates in Rio. In Bogota I averaged $75-$100 per date, plus food or drinks if we go out. CDMX was pricier, $125-$150 was my usual expense per date. Some of them stayed overnight, but usually 4-5 hours total is what I'm expecting.
Mr Enternational
05-21-21, 15:10
Yes Barbarella is No More. Closed last year, IIRC. Wow. Only last year? Seems like that place closed like 5 years ago. You would never know because the outside is still the same as when it was open. Signs and everything still up.
I did some significant RTFF (well over a hundred pages worth), read reports of distinction, and Bubba's Guide so I don't really have any questions to bother you gentlemen with. I will provide trip reports like I usually do on my Colombia trips.
The plan: Fly into SP then connect on over to Rio. Will start out in Ipanema to get a lay of the land for a few days, then head over to Copa, and possibly Barra later on as I figure things out on ground. I will spend the mornings / afternoons relaxing, reading, and drinking beers. The late afternoons and early evenings will be dedicated to the hobby. As per VB's recs, I will probably spend some time at the pool of Transamerica as well. After 10 days or so I'll likely head over to SP and stay for as long as necessary to compare the two cities. And of course visit Scandello. Depending on how I'm feeling / which city I like best, I'll either head back to Rio or stay in SP.
The women: There's probably some interesting psychoanalysis that can be done on me as a black man with an almost exclusive preference for brancas. In Colombia I have a good time but usually (read: only) go for women with a lighter skin tone than myself, and I'm already pretty light skinned for a black man. Therefore, I will be looking for big booty brancas / light skin morenas in my adventures. I plan to hit all the spots talked about here. Termas through (centro included), prives, and online from BarraVIP, etc. I've used SA and tinder in Colombia in the past with significant success, but it doesn't sound like there's much traction for that in Rio / SP, so will likely stick to what I've read about here..Looks like a smart plan. Thank you for RTFF, the reports of distinction and guide. I and I am sure others are glad you didn't post superfluous questions like "I'm going to Rio in a few days. Where do I find hot girls?
I have two basic comments. I'm sure you are going to take some time to do the touristy stuff. Rio is an interesting city and a few days of touring during the day are very cool. A perfect day for a Rio newbie could be Corcovado (Christ Statue), the modern cathedral, the Lapa arches and perhaps lunch up in the old Santa Teresa neighborhood. Then top it off with Termas 4 x4 at the end of the day.
As far as moving from Ipanema to Copacabana, that might be unnecessary. They are so close to each other I don't see the need. I have stayed near the Arpoador rocks. That is the bottom of the V separating Copa and Ipanema. The closer you stay to the point of the V the easier it is to just walk across to the other beach. The hip area of Ipanema Beach is close to Arpoador. Just a suggestion.
As far as going all night long when I was young, do naps count? There was a lot of bonking and short naps. Then there was the naps on the beach. Of course, the beach weather will be limited during the shorter, cooler days coming up.
I look forward to your reports.
Budget: I'm planning to be pretty thrifty as far as lodging goes so that I can spend more on the extracurriculars. I've read a lot of interesting posts about top shelf brancas vs. What you can find at places like VM so I'm curious to make the comparisons for myself and report back here just for another data point. If I spend less than 500 are a day on mongering, that'll be good for me. But, if I'm ordering from BarraVIP just for the sake of convenience then I imagine I'll find myself reaching that number pretty quickly. Looking at about 7000 USD or so for roughly 40 days on ground.If you're watching your budget, I wouldn't start in Ipanema. It's more expensive than Barra or Copa. I'd start in Copa since this is your first time, but you have 40 days and plan on perusing the pool at TA anyway, so why not start there and see how you like it?
Now $7 K for 40 days. Is that your total budget, including lodging and food and everything? Might be a little tight, IMHO.
And like WyattEarp suggests: do some obligatory touristy stuff. It would be a shame to spend 40 days in Rio without doing Corcovado, Sugarloaf and a Centro walk at least.
Well gents, it's about that time. Heading to Rio and SP in early June for about 6 weeks. I was planning to go in December / January, but ended up going to Colombia instead since they didn't require a PCR test at the time. Unfortunately, I was only there for about a week this time since the mayor of Bogota put in some pretty stringent restrictions. But I digress.
I did some significant RTFF (well over a hundred pages worth), read reports of distinction, and Bubba's Guide so I don't really have any questions to bother you gentlemen with. I will provide trip reports like I usually do on my Colombia trips.
The plan: Fly into SP then connect on over to Rio. Will start out in Ipanema to get a lay of the land for a few days, then head over to Copa, and possibly Barra later on as I figure things out on ground. I will spend the mornings / afternoons relaxing, reading, and drinking beers. The late afternoons and early evenings will be dedicated to the hobby. As per VB's recs, I will probably spend some time at the pool of Transamerica as well. After 10 days or so I'll likely head over to SP and stay for as long as necessary to compare the two cities. And of course visit Scandello. Depending on how I'm feeling / which city I like best, I'll either head back to Rio or stay in SP.
The women: There's probably some interesting psychoanalysis that can be done on me as a black man with an almost exclusive preference for brancas. In Colombia I have a good time but usually (read: only) go for women with a lighter skin tone than myself, and I'm already pretty light skinned for a black man. Therefore, I will be looking for big booty brancas / light skin morenas in my adventures. I plan to hit all the spots talked about here. Termas through (centro included), prives, and online from BarraVIP, etc. I've used SA and tinder in Colombia in the past with significant success, but it doesn't sound like there's much traction for that in Rio / SP, so will likely stick to what I've read about here.
Budget: I'm planning to be pretty thrifty as far as lodging goes so that I can spend more on the extracurriculars. I've read a lot of interesting posts about top shelf brancas vs. What you can find at places like VM so I'm curious to make the comparisons for myself and report back here just for another data point. If I spend less than 500 are a day on mongering, that'll be good for me. But, if I'm ordering from BarraVIP just for the sake of convenience then I imagine I'll find myself reaching that number pretty quickly. Looking at about 7000 USD or so for roughly 40 days on ground..Nice plan, I did almost same in December / January.
Came in Brazil before they were asking for PCR bullshit but ok not big of a hussle to do it if needed.
I liked Rio much better but maybe because in SP they had lockdown for weekends.
7 k is more then enough as Brazil is cheaper then Columbia from my experience (Bogota and Cartagena).
Try to find some non pro so will keep costs well bellow 7 k but be aware that Cariocas are (com muito ciumes) very possessive and jealous.
And yeah I agree we all pay for sex in same way of form.
If you find normal girl then expect to be paying with your time, attention lifestyle.
Be aware also of big traffic jams around Barra (don't book apartment from which you can not walk to beach).
I plan to visit Brazil again somewhere between late June. August.
Have fun and write back with experiences.
Member #4729
05-22-21, 15:02
After kicking around for a few days I think I've got the lay a the land. Here are a few thoughts.
Copacabana- is more grunge and chaotic than I had imagined. Don't get me wrong, the beach is amazing, but as you make your way in a couple streets you begin to see the character of the city. For hobbyists used to a clean, organized American city etc, it will disappoint. It's not immediately logical how to function on the day to day- but certainly can be done. It feels safe enough- don't be an obvious tourist and advertise yourself as a target and you should be fine. Don't accept fliers from guys walking at night on the beach area with no one else around. Don't get fall down drunk and stagger around. I felt fine walking from club to club at night and would feel silly taking a taxi from one to the other. That being said there was a major fracas at 4 am last night outside my window with drunken brawlers and broken car windows that lasted a good 25 minutes before they were chased off. Wouldn't want to walk up on that. The shady characters that are obvious are less dangerous than the shady characters that aren't.
Leblon- I like to walk so yesterday walked from Leblon to Atlantico to see la terre with my own eyes. As mentioned, Leblon is well appointed, clean, safe, expensive. Airbnb's reflect this. If you want an experience "similar" to Santa Monica or Leguna Beach, stay here.
Ipanema- I will be headed to an airbnb there next, it seems like a great mix- organized and clean enough to operate daily tasks, but not so well-heeled as Leblon. There's a nice Starbucks where I can imagine myself writing, etc. And other great facilities- gyms, outdoor cafe's etc. This stuff exists in Copa, but feels more run-down. Will not be able to take out from clubs so easy, but. Trade offs.
Leme- I only discovered this morning. I have a great airbnb on Princesa Isabela and finally walked across Atlantico to are Gustavo Sampaio and having discovered this. Charming. Street, will be doing most of my day to day here. G Sampaio is extremely pleasant, shaded, clean with everything you could want. No point in slogging around in Copa when this is right across the street! The beach on this end is amazing as well, with the Ponta do Leme, a great vantage point to see the city and surfers catch waves (some huge sets rolling in right now).
Now that I know about Leme, my feelings towards my set up have changed and its a shame I already booked two weeks elsewhere. My building is right near all the boates and great for walking garotas back for take out from Mabs, Kalabria, Marrakech, Dolce Vita. And since I am so close to Leme, I can use this superior area for my day to day. My building is very girlfriendly and has many more studios available for budget minded hobbyists who still would like something that is comfortable. PM me and I will give you my rental agents info.
Last night I took a night off but the night before I met with Luma again. It was less fun and she was less hot the second time around as sometimes happens. I just can't get off with this one because she does not allow leite na boca or na cara. She says she is a "negra" which is confusing because she looks like a mix to me. To be honest guys most of these girls looked mixed in some form and how the classification workis aside from the obvious branca and negra is still a mystery. Tonight I will head to Monte Carlo and / or Solarium. Steering clear of Centaurus for the moment because I don't like the idea of paying up front if I'm going to dip out due to poor selection, etc.
The weather is beautiful, the cariocas are beautiful- its worth the trip alone just to watch the waves from the Ponta do Leme. All hobbyists should get down here while the getting is good and the real is strong!
SocratesNY
05-22-21, 15:56
Thanks for the FR, Zebra! Sounds like you really hit the ground running. And thanks for listing out the prices, too. That really helps.
Ugh, just my luck, or maybe bad planning on my part. Looks like roundtrip flights from SAO to RIO are about $100 now. I'll probably just enjoy my time in SP then. I was trying to book 3 weeks before the departure date, but prices have gone up from $30 to $120. It was $50 this morning, too. =(I was waiting to get off work before I book the flight.No clue on your days, but I see plenty of availability between SP and RJ for under $50 RT and even cheaper as two one ways for the next 2 to 4 weeks.
I plan to go between SP and RJ for a trip in August and I definitely plan to book 2 one ways, as it's 1) usually cheaper 2) more flexible as I don't need to stick with one airline for both flights. And I can just pick the most convenient departure / arrival times.
...After kicking around for a few days I think I've got the lay a the land. Here are a few thoughts...Excellent report! Thanks for taking the time and writing all of these.
Vagabundo1
05-22-21, 17:04
7000 usd.
That's 37500 brl.
So you should get a room at Transamerica for 3000 a month (call reception, ask for owners, or show up in person with cash).
Learn the schedule of the free luxury bus from Transamerica to centro / av presidente Wilson 147.
Do the centro termas to warm up so you don't get all crazy and blow stupid money on termas for 3 days. Budget 280 reais a day for 3 prive girls see johnny walker's previous posts and reply's from senor Sperto.
Also go to vm at 14 h, pick the best girls, and fuck them at a real hotel, hotel novo canario, see my previous post on this.
Start getting the best VM and prive girls over to your room at Transamerica.
Pay maximum 400 reais, but offer 250 reais pernoite plus eats etc.
Meanwhile, you will be at the pool at Transamerica with your dslr and tell the girls you support ganja, some will fuck you for free.
Now that you are warmed up after 3 days of prive pussy, which is the best bang for the buck in the market (see gparena.net for current intel).
Start by doing girls at perola negra, which is posto 1 in barra, Transamerica being posto 6. Cover is 30, not the 140 at solarium, which is stupid.
Paris cafe also cover 30 reais.
You are now a carioca.
So your run rate is 100 lodging and 300 pussy a day plus food. 40 x500 is about half of 37000. Keep the rest in the bank, and stay for 75 days next time.
Well gents, it's about that time. Heading to Rio and SP in early June for about 6 weeks. I was planning to go in December / January, but ended up going to Colombia instead since they didn't require a PCR test at the time. Unfortunately, I was only there for about a week this time since the mayor of Bogota put in some pretty stringent restrictions. But I digress.
I did some significant RTFF (well over a hundred pages worth), read reports of distinction, and Bubba's Guide so I don't really have any questions to bother you gentlemen with. I will provide trip reports like I usually do on my Colombia trips.
The plan: Fly into SP then connect on over to Rio. Will start out in Ipanema to get a lay of the land for a few days, then head over to Copa, and possibly Barra later on as I figure things out on ground. I will spend the mornings / afternoons relaxing, reading, and drinking beers. The late afternoons and early evenings will be dedicated to the hobby. As per VB's recs, I will probably spend some time at the pool of Transamerica as well. After 10 days or so I'll likely head over to SP and stay for as long as necessary to compare the two cities. And of course visit Scandello. Depending on how I'm feeling / which city I like best, I'll either head back to Rio or stay in SP..
If you're watching your budget, I wouldn't start in Ipanema. It's more expensive than Barra or Copa. I'd start in Copa since this is your first time, but you have 40 days and plan on perusing the pool at TA anyway, so why not start there and see how you like it?
Now $7 K for 40 days. Is that your total budget, including lodging and food and everything? Might be a little tight, IMHO.
And like WyattEarp suggests: do some obligatory touristy stuff. It would be a shame to spend 40 days in Rio without doing Corcovado, Sugarloaf and a Centro walk at least.TiaVoyage is young and says he has game. If he does an overnight with a cool chick, she might be willing to show him the sights for no extra fee. Sometimes these girls just want to be treated nice. That might set up the expectation on her part of another night, but you just see how things flow.
And yes, excellent point about staying in Copa will free up more money for garotas.
Also go to vm at 14 h, pick the best girls, and fuck them at a real hotel, hotel novo canario, see my previous post on this.
Start getting the best VM and prive girls over to your room at Transamerica.I'm not sure about Vila Mimosa. TiaVoyage might be sticking to a branca diet.
Exec Talent
05-22-21, 17:57
No clue on your days, but I see plenty of availability between SP and RJ for under $50 RT and even cheaper as two one ways for the next 2 to 4 weeks.
I plan to go between SP and RJ for a trip in August and I definitely plan to book 2 one ways, as it's 1) usually cheaper 2) more flexible as I don't need to stick with one airline for both flights. And I can just pick the most convenient departure / arrival times.If $50 is that significant to you, then you obviously should just stay at home. Don't believe that this is even being discussed. No problem with wanting to save money and have recommended discount motel sites and other discount programs but, seriously. You are worried about a few dollars when it comes to getting from one major destination to another.
I left NY Thursday afternoon with my updated verifly ap, entered my test results PCR, and other pertinent information, the airline website recognized it and then let me check in, when I got to the airport they wanted to see all the hard copies, I said what's the point of the ap then? I took 2 pcr tests one on Monday and another Tuesday, the one from Monday I received Wednesday morning but it had no timestamp on it so the ap said it was past the 72 hour window because it used 8 am as default which pushed me out. The one from Tuesday also came back Wednesday and the ap accepted this one. I arrived in Miami 4 pm my flight to Rio was at 11 pm. I took a taxi to south beach sat at a hotel pool had lunch then walked Collins Avenue and got propositioned 2 times but I moved on. In Miami airport they told me they would have to check my docs again and I could do it in the lounge, I said this is getting crazy but they never did, then smooth flight and arrived early.
I was exhausted when I arrived Friday but at 4 pm went to see what's up at eden spa, they presented 3 girls all very nice, three different shades tall and slender but I wanted to check out copaterapias first so I went up to the 5th floor from the 4th and asked for a nuru massage which is 1 hour of massage where the girl rubs you down with oil naked and she is naked and massages you with her whole body, it was very nice, the room had a zen atmosphere with nice music then she gives you a happy ending, was all good and relaxing.
I went back to my room and chilled still tired and thinking I was going to call it a day, fell asleep and woke up at 1 am, looked out my balcony and can see the girls going in and out of Dolce vita and my juices started to wake up, took a shower and went down stairs, many girls were available, I could have my pick, I found a tall girl falsa magra in her 2 o's, 400 reais, we spent an hour on my balcony completely naked LOL then moved inside for the finale, good time had by all.
http://copaterapias.com.br/services/
https://www.edenspa.com.br/
Vagabundo1
05-22-21, 19:08
There are brancas in vm and mosaico.
I'm not sure about Vila Mimosa. TiaVoyage might be sticking to a branca diet.
Well, due to the pandemic, I have not been to Rio for a while. I have heard from a few Carioca friends that many stores and businesses have closed their doors for good, in various neighborhoods within the city of are. De Jan. Particularly, No Centro. I have only heard of these changes, but I will see first hand once I arrive in a couple of weeks. I have spent much time having fun, and working a bit in that area over the years. Hopefully, I will not be a depressing sight.
I ran across a few different articles about the possible plans for No Centro in the future (For example, converting currently standing commercial buildings into resident apartments). So I am just sharing, for those who find it interesting. Sorry that it is in Portuguese. For those who can't read the language, just use google translator.
https://diariodorio.com/prefeitura-prepara-projeto-para-reviver-o-centro-do-rio-e-impulsos-para-converter-imoveis-comerciais-em-residenciais/amp/
https://prefeitura.rio/cidade/prefeitura-lanca-reviver-centro-plano-para-atrair-novos-moradores-e-estimular-a-recuperacao-urbanistica-social-e-economica-da-regiao/
https://g1.globo.com/google/amp/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2021/01/28/plano-de-revitalizacao-do-centro-do-rio-deve-ser-votado-na-camara-de-vereadores-no-mes-que-vem.ghtml
I ran across a few different articles about the possible plans for No Centro in the future (For example, converting currently standing commercial buildings into resident apartments). So I am just sharing, for those who find it interesting.Very interesting. Sounds good.
Made me think of São Luíz and their Projeto Reviver. Lots of wonderful old buildings in Centro Historico, being reformed.
Member #4729
05-23-21, 01:11
A couple of years ago in Moscow I remember the experience of discovering most beautiful girl I have ever seen walk by on the street only to have to take those words back as the actual most beautiful girl I have ever seen appeared minutes later. Rinse, repeat. A similar thing keeps happening here in Rio, but replace "seen" with "smash". Worth noting as well is the number of afore-mentioned stunners who will both deepthroat and allow cum in mouth. Maybe its my charm, maybe its the money? Who knows. So far Brazil wins in that category if not is the BBFS column which goes to Philippines.
Anyways, a brief description and call for advice. Monte Carlo, my first terma experience went much as expected. Check in, grab a locker, take a shower, ascend to the boate. Immediately I chose India, another mignon who could best be described as looking Italian- not sure if that's branca, mulatta or what? Hotter by far than the two previous girl I'd done this week, perfect skin, gorgeous face, amazing tight body- thin and mignon with small pert tits just the way I like it. Soon in started kissing with her grabbing the the. We ascended to the cabine.
Should be noted before the action she asked for me to go down to level 1 to get my phone for translation- I had not brought because as it was my first time I was not sure if allowed. ISG posters can correct me if I'm wrong but looks like punters can bring phone if not taking photos- but girls can't. A big improvement again over Thailand where the ladies have a real problem with that.
Session was great- repeatedly amazed that women this hot will full on throat my cock to the verge of puking- actually puking stomach bile- and then keep going and going like a real trooper. Rare to come across that in SEA. Required condom for intercourse but my main fetish is oral, so ended up coming na boca in an amazing finish. Real nice convo and tradutor session after that created a genuine rapport and contact for future visits.
To emphasize, these girls-even the stunners-are dirty and work to please you- at least in the current environment. Just like other visits, I was outnumbered by the women at least 10 to 1. Not sure if it can get better than that. SW, and the average Carioca for that matter, are hungry for your USD and EU, so get the freak down and give it to them.
However- the bill was a bit more than expected at least compared to Bubbas guide and other sources, it's hard to even disclose because I know posters here put a premium on value and I don't want to be the piker that ruins the game- but it was a bit of a surprise. I'm happy to pay, and tip out the staff- this is honestly 1/10 of what Vegas would be and actually cheaper than Bangkok, if not Pattaya. I've been saving for over a year for this very purpose. But, if anyone has any advice how to keep the terma bill down, please let me know. I had 3 beers total, bought her one, and an hour long session in a standard room. It came to roughly $140 USD. I was expecting something more like $80-100. Not speaking Porto- can't really haggle that well nor do I really want to. So what explains the price?
Anyways- India of course wants me to come back Monday, which I'm sure I will. My thought again, how do I control the price here while still having a good time? Clara coming over mid-day again tomorrow for another deepthroat session- my favorite. I'm going to slowly bring her down as far as the amount and depravity my fetishes to see just how far we can get in the net 10 weeks.
What a great scene- better in some ways than SEA so far. Not as easy, but charming and rewarding in other ways. Pattaya as a beach sucks balls my dudes- this beach is world class. The girls here are hot and Ready gents, get your butts down.
SocratesNY
05-23-21, 01:17
If $50 is that significant to you, then you obviously should just stay at home. Don't believe that this is even being discussed. No problem with wanting to save money and have recommended discount motel sites and other discount programs but, seriously. You are worried about a few dollars when it comes to getting from one major destination to another.I think you either quoted the wrong person or misunderstood what I said. I was simply replying to someome else and stating that there are 1) lots of cheap flights between SP and RJ over the next 2-3 weeks and that 2) I would prefer to buy two one way tickets (even if it means different airlines) rather than round trip as it gives you more options / flexibility to take the flight that fits your schedule.
However- the bill was a bit more than expected at least compared to Bubbas guide and other sources, it's hard to even disclose because I know posters here put a premium on value and I don't want to be the piker that ruins the game- but it was a bit of a surprise. I'm happy to pay, and tip out the staff- this is honestly 1/10 of what Vegas would be and actually cheaper than Bangkok, if not Pattaya. I've been saving for over a year for this very purpose. But, if anyone has any advice how to keep the terma bill down, please let me know. I had 3 beers total, bought her one, and an hour long session in a standard room. It came to roughly $140 USD. I was expecting something more like $80-100. Not speaking Porto- can't really haggle that well nor do I really want to. So what explains the price?
Anyways- India of course wants me to come back Monday, which I'm sure I will. My thought again, how do I control the price here while still having a good time? The price sounds about right to me. IIRC, one hour plus entrada goes for $R600+. Plus 4 beers. They didn't rip you off. For future visits, there is a price menu right on the reception, or at least it used to be. Check it out next time and post here.
For price control -- did you try to get India meet you outside?
In any case, if you like termas but want a cheaper experience, try 4 x 4. Much cheaper but same high quality, and they wave entrada if you take the girl in until 6, I guess?
Very interesting. Sounds good.
Made me think of So Luz and their Projeto Reviver. Lots of wonderful old buildings in Centro Historico, being reformed.The Centro of Sao Luis feels like a medieval city. Pretty decayed medieval city, but still interesting.
You've discovered what most new visitors to Brasil have -- ie. Brasilians are the best performers in the World and it's not even close. FWIW most of us have "overspent" in Termas. The price is fixed so there's not much you can do about it. And Monte Carlo is in the tourist zone so it's going to be more expensive than the Centro Termas. If you want to lower your cost, get the girl's number and her her meet you when she's not working. You can likely pay significantly less and also have less time constraints. Termas are a fantastic experience, but they are generally not real price-effective.
A couple of years ago in Moscow I remember the experience of discovering most beautiful girl I have ever seen walk by on the street only to have to take those words back as the actual most beautiful girl I have ever seen appeared minutes later. Rinse, repeat. A similar thing keeps happening here in Rio, but replace "seen" with "smash". Worth noting as well is the number of afore-mentioned stunners who will both deepthroat and allow cum in mouth. Maybe its my charm, maybe its the money? Who knows. So far Brazil wins in that category if not is the BBFS column which goes to Philippines.
Anyways, a brief description and call for advice. Monte Carlo, my first terma experience went much as expected. Check in, grab a locker, take a shower, ascend to the boate. Immediately I chose India, another mignon who could best be described as looking Italian- not sure if that's branca, mulatta or what? Hotter by far than the two previous girl I'd done this week, perfect skin, gorgeous face, amazing tight body- thin and mignon with small pert tits just the way I like it. Soon in started kissing with her grabbing the the. We ascended to the cabine.
Should be noted before the action she asked for me to go down to level 1 to get my phone for translation- I had not brought because as it was my first time I was not sure if allowed. ISG posters can correct me if I'm wrong but looks like punters can bring phone if not taking photos- but girls can't. A big improvement again over Thailand where the ladies have a real problem with that.
Session was great- repeatedly amazed that women this hot will full on throat my cock to the verge of puking- actually puking stomach bile- and then keep going and going like a real trooper. Rare to come across that in SEA. Required condom for intercourse but my main fetish is oral, so ended up coming na boca in an amazing finish. Real nice convo and tradutor session after that created a genuine rapport and contact for future visits.
To emphasize, these girls-even the stunners-are dirty and work to please you- at least in the current environment. Just like other visits, I was outnumbered by the women at least 10 to 1. Not sure if it can get better than that. SW, and the average Carioca for that matter, are hungry for your USD and EU, so get the freak down and give it to them.
However- the bill was a bit more than expected at least compared to Bubbas guide and other sources, it's hard to even disclose because I know posters here put a premium on value and I don't want to be the piker that ruins the game- but it was a bit of a surprise. I'm happy to pay, and tip out the staff- this is honestly 1/10 of what Vegas would be and actually cheaper than Bangkok, if not Pattaya. I've been saving for over a year for this very purpose. But, if anyone has any advice how to keep the terma bill down, please let me know. I had 3 beers total, bought her one, and an hour long session in a standard room. It came to roughly $140 USD. I was expecting something more like $80-100. Not speaking Porto- can't really haggle that well nor do I really want to. So what explains the price?
Anyways- India of course wants me to come back Monday, which I'm sure I will. My thought again, how do I control the price here while still having a good time? Clara coming over mid-day again tomorrow for another deepthroat session- my favorite. I'm going to slowly bring her down as far as the amount and depravity my fetishes to see just how far we can get in the net 10 weeks.
What a great scene- better in some ways than SEA so far. Not as easy, but charming and rewarding in other ways. Pattaya as a beach sucks balls my dudes- this beach is world class. The girls here are hot and Ready gents, get your butts down.
SinfullyKorean
05-23-21, 07:29
No clue on your days, but I see plenty of availability between SP and RJ for under $50 RT and even cheaper as two one ways for the next 2 to 4 weeks. I was finally able to book a flight today for $40 RT. For the last few days, it was showing up as $120. A few frustrating parts in booking the flight via GOL: 1. It asks for my birthday, but I can't tell if I needed to put DD/MM/YYYY or MM/DD/YYYY. I put it as the latter. I'll have to call the airline on Monday to confirm. 2. When putting in my billing address, it lists all the states except CA! wth? 3. Phone number seems to be in Brazil format. I put my US number in there, and it didn't error out on me.
If $50 is that significant to you, then you obviously should just stay at home. Don't believe that this is even being discussed. No problem with wanting to save money and have recommended discount motel sites and other discount programs but, seriously. You are worried about a few dollars when it comes to getting from one major destination to another.It really isn't. I could've paid $100 without much burden to my wallet, and that's how much a found RT flight in a cheap / close destination usually is. But I don't like the thought of paying $100 more than I should've. So I would've preferred to just stay in SP if that was the case. The airfares are now back to normal. All is well. I won't tell you how to spend your money.
SinfullyKorean
05-23-21, 07:36
I think you either quoted the wrong person or misunderstood what I said. I was simply replying to someome else and stating that there are 1) lots of cheap flights between SP and RJ over the next 2-3 weeks and that 2) I would prefer to buy two one way tickets (even if it means different airlines) rather than round trip as it gives you more options / flexibility to take the flight that fits your schedule.I had a similar plan. To book my flight closer to my travel date. Almost got screwed as prices more than doubled the last few days. For some reason, prices came down again today. I'm only on a short 2 week trip, so I don't need that much flexibility. Hope you have safe travels and LOTS of sex! I'm eager to read your reports!
My thought again, how do I control the price here while still having a good time?.Zebra,
Nice report. Don't worry too much about the spending part. When people complain, it's about what people are overpaying freelancers, not the termas. In termas, the price is the price and there is nothing to do except to do less. I like the termas too. Keep having fun and doing what you are doing!
Mr Enternational
05-23-21, 18:27
A few frustrating parts in booking the flight via GOL: 1. It asks for my birthday, but I can't tell if I needed to put DD/MM/YYYY or MM/DD/YYYY. I put it as the latter. I'll have to call the airline on Monday to confirm. 2. When putting in my billing address, it lists all the states except CA! wth? 3. Phone number seems to be in Brazil format. I put my US number in there, and it didn't error out on me.
Those websites are not foreinger friendly. A few weeks ago I was either buying a ticket or checking in for a flight. It kept asking for my CPF (tax ID number). After trying all that I could (making up numbers and shit) I finally just asked my girlfriend for her CPF to plug in and it worked. I had one many moons ago, but for some reason they expire if not used. I have since applied for another on the Receita Federal website but still have not heard anything back. It you are putzing around Brazil for any length of time then you are going to want to have a CPF to make your life much easier.
Brasil Nut
05-23-21, 19:09
A couple of years ago in Moscow I remember the experience of discovering most beautiful girl I have ever seen walk by on the street only to have to take those words back as the actual most beautiful girl I have ever seen appeared minutes later. Rinse, repeat. A similar thing keeps happening here in Rio, but replace "seen" with "smash". Worth noting as well is the number of afore-mentioned stunners who will both deepthroat and allow cum in mouth. Maybe its my charm, maybe its the money? Who knows. So far Brazil wins in that category if not is the BBFS column which goes to Philippines.
Anyways, a brief description and call for advice. Monte Carlo, my first terma experience went much as expected. Check in, grab a locker, take a shower, ascend to the boate. Immediately I chose India, another mignon who could best be described as looking Italian- not sure if that's branca, mulatta or what? Hotter by far than the two previous girl I'd done this week, perfect skin, gorgeous face, amazing tight body- thin and mignon with small pert tits just the way I like it. Soon in started kissing with her grabbing the the. We ascended to the cabine.
Should be noted before the action she asked for me to go down to level 1 to get my phone for translation- I had not brought because as it was my first time I was not sure if allowed. ISG posters can correct me if I'm wrong but looks like punters can bring phone if not taking photos- but girls can't. A big improvement again over Thailand where the ladies have a real problem with that.
Session was great- repeatedly amazed that women this hot will full on throat my cock to the verge of puking- actually puking stomach bile- and then keep going and going like a real trooper. Rare to come across that in SEA. Required condom for intercourse but my main fetish is oral, so ended up coming na boca in an amazing finish. Real nice convo and tradutor session after that created a genuine rapport and contact for future visits..Monte Carlo used to have a frequent fucker club where you'd get a free entrance every time you spent $500 which was pretty much every time. I think I remember it being raised to $700 but that's been years ago. Could be higher now or completely done away with. The manager there is Ivan. He speaks English and is cool. Introduce yourself and get cool, he'll probably let you in free here and there. Definitely better to get numbers and have girls come to you before their shift. If you pay for their Uber to ZS they'll definitely come.
Vagabundo1
05-23-21, 19:57
Is there a downside to getting a cpf?
Those websites are not foreinger friendly. A few weeks ago I was either buying a ticket or checking in for a flight. It kept asking for my CPF (tax ID number). After trying all that I could (making up numbers and shit) I finally just asked my girlfriend for her CPF to plug in and it worked. I had one many moons ago, but for some reason they expire if not used. I have since applied for another on the Receita Federal website but still have not heard anything back. It you are putzing around Brazil for any length of time then you are going to want to have a CPF to make your life much easier.
All the fees (entrance, room, drinks, etc.) add up and you end up paying like 700+ reais, and for that price get to spend only 40 minutes - 1 HR with a girl in a tiny room. From all the reports that I have read it seems like 300-400 reals pernoite is the norm for an outside date and you get to fuck multiple times in the comfort of your hotel or airbnb. And if you pay more than that you are an idiot and you fuck up the market. So, whom do termas cater to? Weekend millionaires? First timers with zero portuguese? Is it the quality of WG that make termas worth visiting and spending that much?
...had one many moons ago, but for some reason they expire if not used. I have since applied for another on the Receita Federal website but still have not heard anything back...Huh! Now that's just annoying. I too was under the impression, that a CPF number was like a lifetime permanent type of tax ID, much like a social insurance number. What a pain in the ass, to have to redo this application.
Oh well, love it, or leave it...Brazilian bureaucracy.
Is there a downside to getting a cpf? If you happen to be making large $$ (dollar) purchase items. Sometimes I have been asked when getting a new SIM card/number.
https://wise.com/gb/blog/cpf-cnpj-meaning-brazil
Is there a downside to getting a cpf?No, none at all.
Huh! Now that's just annoying. I too was under the impression, that a CPF number was like a lifetime permanent type of tax ID...
Is there a downside to getting a cpf?Perhaps, just the unfortunate pain of having to redo the application, every so often, if not used often enough.
All the fees (entrance, room, drinks, etc.) add up and you end up paying like 700+ reais, and for that price get to spend only 40 minutes - 1 HR with a girl in a tiny room. From all the reports that I have read it seems like 300-400 reals pernoite is the norm for an outside date and you get to fuck multiple times in the comfort of your hotel or airbnb. And if you pay more than that you are an idiot and you fuck up the market. So, whom do termas cater to? Weekend millionaires? First timers with zero portuguese? Is it the quality of WG that make termas worth visiting and spending that much?Not necessarily. A good part of the fun in a termas is you can mingle with dozens of chicas walking around in bikinis and high heels. You can "test them out" by feeling their bodies and making out with them. Many will play with your dick in the club.
I think termas have their place as does doing long time in the comfort of your apartment. They are both great experiences.
Vagabundo1
05-23-21, 22:13
But, even if you ignore VM and instead do club 116 and T31, in addition to the prives in central, and Perola Negra and Paris, that is more than enough source for 40 days.
That is the optimal selection.
Yes 4 x 4 too since it only has 50 reais cover.
Ignore the termas with covers over 100 (solarium, MC, centaurus).
Stay in barra not copacabana.
There are brancas in vm and mosaico.
Mr Enternational
05-23-21, 23:05
Huh! Now that's just annoying. I too was under the impression, that a CPF number was like a lifetime permanent type of tax ID, much like a social insurance number. What a pain in the ass, to have to redo this application.
Oh well, love it, or leave it...Brazilian bureaucracy.
If you happen to be making large $$ (dollar) purchase items. Sometimes I have been asked when getting a new SIM card/number.
https://wise.com/gb/blog/cpf-cnpj-meaning-brazilThey even ask for it when you make purchases at department stores. Me and my girlfriend bought some new sheets the other week ago and they always ask at that store. The sheets did not fit so we took them back. They do not give refunds, but put the credit in the computer under her CPF. Back in the day we used to need CPF to get the utilities in our names when we rented apartments long term in Rio.
On Saturday early evening I tried to get a girl from barra vip to come over, 2 flaked out on me kept texting back they were going to be late so I canceled. I was getting hungry so I walked over to MAbs to get something to eat and I was texting another barra girl to come over but they all act like they don't need the money, business must be good for these girls and also some are young and beautiful.
So while I was sitting in Mabs planning my next move a woman comes over to me that I met in an Internet cafe many years ago to say Hello,. She said I'm sitting over there with a friend I think you'll like her. I went over and sat with them, not really my type but she seemed fun so I stayed a while. She asked me what my plans were for the night, I had none really but a girl I met last night told me of a new swing club in Barra called Achar. The girl said to me it's a good place and she loves it. I said yeah you want to go? She said yes but I said I didn't want to travel so far let's go to 2 A2 instead. So we went to my place and changed, she put on a dress and I put on pick pocket proof pants.
I didn't really expect much from 2 A2 considering these times, I thought maybe I'll just bang my girl and watch others. But my girl was perfect for this place, her personality plus big bunda and breasts many guys were reaching over to touch her and as soon as they do that gives me permission to touch theirs. I had my fingers in many hot wet bucettas, ate some delicious ones too plus we switched with 3 couples, it was a really good night.
On the way back I'm staying near Dolce Vita and I learned in 2 A2 that my girl likes bucetta too, many girls in the club were after her too. So I said let's go into dolce vita and get a girl for us, she said yes and she'll pick her out. We found this lovely 21 year old with small breasts and big luscious nipples. We all jumped into the bed together and I had both to myself. Good thing those Barra girls flaked on me otherwise I would have missed this great night.
Not necessarily. A good part of the fun in a termas is you can mingle with dozens of chicas walking around in bikinis and high heels. You can "test them out" by feeling their bodies and making out with them. Many will play with your dick in the club.
I think termas have their place as does doing long time in the comfort of your apartment. They are both great experiences.People are always coming up with false, narrow, either or choices. Bunk that! Do it all! I want it all! And I will have it too!
All the fees (entrance, room, drinks, etc.) add up and you end up paying like 700+ reais, and for that price get to spend only 40 minutes - 1 HR with a girl in a tiny room. From all the reports that I have read it seems like 300-400 reals pernoite is the norm for an outside date and you get to fuck multiple times in the comfort of your hotel or airbnb. And if you pay more than that you are an idiot and you fuck up the market. So, whom do termas cater to? Weekend millionaires? First timers with zero portuguese? Is it the quality of WG that make termas worth visiting and spending that much?I wonder how many mongers will actually get that kind of price.
Apart from Mr. Vagabundo of course. ,kudos to him though.
I was in Brazil for 1 month and lowest I got was 800 reias.
It is still less then 200 $ which is great value on world wide scale.
Maybe if you are there longer and speak Portuguese can have those prices of 300/400 but otherwise don't think so.
Houston Player
05-24-21, 01:49
All the fees (entrance, room, drinks, etc.) add up and you end up paying like 700+ reais, and for that price get to spend only 40 minutes - 1 HR with a girl in a tiny room. From all the reports that I have read it seems like 300-400 reals pernoite is the norm for an outside date and you get to fuck multiple times in the comfort of your hotel or airbnb. And if you pay more than that you are an idiot and you fuck up the market. So, whom do termas cater to? Weekend millionaires? First timers with zero portuguese? Is it the quality of WG that make termas worth visiting and spending that much?Most of the customers in Termas are Brazilians, many rarely take a girl to the room. It's a very fun atmosphere to drink and party.
Houston Player
05-24-21, 01:52
Huh! Now that's just annoying. I too was under the impression, that a CPF number was like a lifetime permanent type of tax ID, much like a social insurance number. What a pain in the ass, to have to redo this application.
Oh well, love it, or leave it...Brazilian bureaucracy.
If you happen to be making large $$ (dollar) purchase items. Sometimes I have been asked when getting a new SIM card/number.
https://wise.com/gb/blog/cpf-cnpj-meaning-brazilOnce upon a time CPF numbers for foreigners did expire if not renewed but I'm almost certain that is no longer the case. I've had my CPF since 2007, I just checked the website and it's still active even though I haven't used it for a number of years now.
Not necessarily. A good part of the fun in a termas is you can mingle with dozens of chicas walking around in bikinis and high heels. You can "test them out" by feeling their bodies and making out with them. Many will play with your dick in the club.
I think termas have their place as does doing long time in the comfort of your apartment. They are both great experiences.Absolutely! That what makes the termas great..."the groping", IMHO.
Brasileira "gropability" (if that even is a word) in a terma (or boate for that matter), is for me, one of the top crucial indicators for taking a garota, pre-room romp.
The highly anticipated "groping factor", touching and teasing with a Brasileira, is a very high selling point, pre-room romp.
Monte Carlo, was my very first terma (back-in-the-day) and was my first time in Rio (but I did read WSG at the time). I hadn't paid yet to enter and it was suggested by the manager, that I make myself comfortable and take a tour of the facilities. Naturally he provided a super sexy curvy Brasileira, who showed up in a one piece thong bikini. My best personalized tour ever. My hand were all over her nice bubble butt booty.
I just couldn't help myself, during those sexy walks up and down the Monte Carlo stairs and elevator. Her rear end in that thong bikini, with my hands firmly planted on that ass, going up those narrow stairs, well forever be an indelible moment. Although, admittedly it isn't as ubiquitous and prevalent as bygone years.
Again, for the most part groping has always be excellent in termas and boates. At times it is the only thing I, myself, other noted BMs (that have posted about it) and Brazilian dudes, go for and don't always session. That and the collection of phone numbers.
Brazil, probably has the best girls for groping, on the planet, pre-room romp. Okay, Okay. I just recently read Russia (and Germany), may have (or had) a very good groping scene at a few clubs, but I'll let others chime-in on that.
Once upon a time CPF numbers for foreigners did expire if not renewed but I'm almost certain that is no longer the case. I've had my CPF since 2007, I just checked the website and it's still active even though I haven't used it for a number of years now.Thanks, good to know. I hope that's the case. I haven't used mine since 2018/17.
Not necessarily. A good part of the fun in a termas is you can mingle with dozens of chicas walking around in bikinis and high heels. You can "test them out" by feeling their bodies and making out with them. Many will play with your dick in the club.
I think termas have their place as does doing long time in the comfort of your apartment. They are both great experiences.Why not go to a strip club then? Lots of naked girls around to test out. The difference is that you don't have to pay a heavy entrance fee to get in to check out the lineup. Sometimes there is no fee at all.
...I didn't really expect much from 2 A2 considering these times, I thought maybe I'll just bang my girl and watch others. But my girl was perfect for this place, her personality plus big bunda and breasts many guys were reaching over to touch her and as soon as they do that gives me permission to touch theirs. I had my fingers in many hot wet bucettas, ate some delicious ones too plus we switched with 3 couples, it was a really good night.
On the way back I'm staying near Dolce Vita and I learned in 2 A2 that my girl likes bucetta too, many girls in the club were after her too. So I said let's go into dolce vita and get a girl for us, she said yes and she'll pick her out. We found this lovely 21 year old with small breasts and big luscious nipples. We all jumped into the bed together and I had both to myself. Good thing those Barra girls flaked on me otherwise I would have missed this great night.Nice adventure! Nice sessions! Thanks for sharing another one of your hot swinging serendipitous moments, we've all come to enjoy your reports on.
Vagabundo1
05-24-21, 04:16
I will also say, contrary to my previous criticisms, that there are some top, top shelf girls who you can't get to bang you outside a terma, and who are really top top shelf.
You have to bang them there, and it may even be worth it. I'm thinking of one hot little 18 year old at 4 x 4 now.
That said, there is so much ass here in Rio that my list is always overflowing.
My "pro forma" days are 3 girls a day at prives, but that alone yields like 4-5 new girls to get over for pernoite each week or two.
And then there are the pro's like the girls at Transamerica, and the porn girls. My latest is one Natasha Rios. OMFG. Sorry to reduce myself to stupid gen z cell phone language, but Oh My Fucking God.
Natasha Rios. Just got her digits through some girls here.
Not necessarily. A good part of the fun in a termas is you can mingle with dozens of chicas walking around in bikinis and high heels. You can "test them out" by feeling their bodies and making out with them. Many will play with your dick in the club.
I think termas have their place as does doing long time in the comfort of your apartment. They are both great experiences.
Pahllus Maximus
05-24-21, 04:49
Is there anything like the German "parties" ie entrance fee and unlimited sex and public orgies? I know Thailand and Germany and FKK's well and a few sex parties in London, Netherlands and Germany and an orgy in Switzerland sponsored by some obscenely rich middle eastern types who liked watching. Very happy to oblige. If not, any public orgy or private threesome will work. My biggest concern is post 12+ month is USA sex prison my mind will explode in BR with so many beautiful women willing to swallow and who think anal is routine. I worry I could become addicted.
Any suggestions?
I had one many moons ago, but for some reason they expire if not used. I have since applied for another on the Receita Federal website but still have not heard anything back.Are you sure your CPF expired? I think they are valid for always.
You can do a check here:
https://servicos.receita.fazenda.gov.br/Servicos/CPF/ConsultaSituacao/ConsultaPublica.asp
Those websites are not foreinger friendly. A few weeks ago I was either buying a ticket or checking in for a flight. It kept asking for my CPF (tax ID number). After trying all that I could (making up numbers and shit) I finally just asked my girlfriend for her CPF to plug in and it worked. I had one many moons ago, but for some reason they expire if not used. I have since applied for another on the Receita Federal website but still have not heard anything back. It you are putzing around Brazil for any length of time then you are going to want to have a CPF to make your life much easier.A number of year ago I went to the Varig office in Manhattan to purchase a ticket from Rio to Curitiba, they wanted 300 damn dollars for a one way ticket. When I told him that I was only paying $375 bucks for my round trip ticket from NYC to Rio, the guy just shrugged his shoulders. I called up my girlfriend in Curitiba and she was able to book a ticket for the same day, same time and same flight from Rio to Curitiba for only 80 bucks!! I was pissed!
SinfullyKorean
05-24-21, 16:53
Stay in barra not copacabana.It looks like most of the action is near Copacabana. Why do you recommend staying at Barra (the Tijuca?) instead? Looking to book my Rio hotel soon.
Vagabundo1
05-24-21, 17:05
I recommend you stay in Copa.
It looks like most of the action is near Copacabana. Why do you recommend staying at Barra (the Tijuca?) instead? Looking to book my Rio hotel soon.
It looks like most of the action is near Copacabana. Why do you recommend staying at Barra (the Tijuca?) instead? Looking to book my Rio hotel soon.Most of the night action is in copacabana. From what I can gather mr vagabundo advocates barra and his hotel because many of the escorts on the Barra Vip website live there. The other day not today I counted just how many of the girls actually live in Barra and that was about half with the rest in zona sul including copacabana. So 38 girls lived in Barra, I can't imagine they all lived in the transamerica but lets say at least 25 do. Now in copacabana there are thousands. Now mr vagabundo has posted he fucked several of them but doesn't sound like 25. He gets most of his negras from privis in centro. So let's say you do meet a few of these beauties at the pool, are they going to give you a discount? Who knows? And what will you do at night? Anywhere you go you'll have to get a taxi, in copacabana you just walk out your door and everything is around you, youre there. Just my opinion.
It looks like most of the action is near Copacabana. Why do you recommend staying at Barra (the Tijuca?) instead? Looking to book my Rio hotel soon.
Most of the night action is in copacabana. From what I can gather mr vagabundo advocates barra and his hotel because many of the escorts on the Barra Vip website live there. The other day not today I counted just how many of the girls actually live in Barra and that was about half with the rest in zona sul including copacabana. So 38 girls lived in Barra, I can't imagine they all lived in the transamerica but lets say at least 25 do. Now in copacabana there are thousands. Now mr vagabundo has posted he fucked several of them but doesn't sound like 25. He gets most of his negras from privis in centro. So let's say you do meet a few of these beauties at the pool, are they going to give you a discount? Who knows? And what will you do at night? Anywhere you go you'll have to get a taxi, in copacabana you just walk out your door and everything is around you, youre there. Just my opinion.There's more than one reason to stay in Barra. The lodging is cheaper, less hectic, the water is cleaner, and there're still enough GDPs to keep you busy. On the other hand, like Rio Bob said, in Copa, you just walk out of the building and everything is right there (except Centro termas). For convenience Copa can't be beat. Keep in mind that Vagabundo is practically living in Rio. You must watch your budget on a long stay, and you have all the time in the world to spend on transit.
AmorPorFavor
05-24-21, 19:44
There's more than one reason to stay in Barra. The lodging is cheaper, less hectic, the water is cleaner, and there're still enough GDPs to keep you busy. On the other hand, like Rio Bob said, in Copa, you just walk out of the building and everything is right there (except Centro termas). For convenience Copa can't be beat. Keep in mind that Vagabundo is practically living in Rio. You must watch your budget on a long stay, and you have all the time in the world to spend on transit.I'm planning to take my first trip to Rio sometime around December or January. I'm trying to decide between Copa and Ipanema. I like to spend a lot of time in the ocean. Is the water cleaner in Ipanema than Copa? How bad is the water quality? I don't mind walking or taking short Uber or taxi rides for mongering. I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.
I concur with Rio Bob and Xpartan. For a first or short trip, Copa is the better choice. Vagabundo's situation and experience is far different from that possessed by first-time visitor to Rio de Janeiro. If you want something a little nicer than Copa that would also work well, then first or short-timers can go with Ipanema or "Ipa". Both Copa and Ipa are highly recommended for the first-timer. At least by The Cane they are LOL!
You can literally roll out of bed and on to the beach, when you stay in Copacabana (or Ipanema). I don't think you can do that at Transamerica. There are two reasons to go to Copacabana Beach. It is a crowded beach when the weather is good. I'm not looking for seclusion when I go to the beach. More people, more garotas! The socioeconomic characteristics of Copa also make it more plausible that you will be able to strike up a connection with a local girl. It's not as easy when Hooker Beach was right in front of the Rio Othon, but it is possible. Just smile and say Hello, to every garota.
Barra is a nicer beach, but it is sprawling compared to Copa and Ipanema.
I'm planning to take my first trip to Rio sometime around December or January. I'm trying to decide between Copa and Ipanema. I like to spend a lot of time in the ocean. Is the water cleaner in Ipanema than Copa? How bad is the water quality? I don't mind walking or taking short Uber or taxi rides for mongering. I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.I'm not a water quality expert, but Ipanema seems cleaner. Less sewage run-off and further from the city than Copa. If water quality is the main objective, Barra is better hands down. Ipanema and Leblon (next to it) have good restaurants and cafes.
I'm planning to take my first trip to Rio sometime around December or January. I'm trying to decide between Copa and Ipanema. I like to spend a lot of time in the ocean. Is the water cleaner in Ipanema than Copa? How bad is the water quality? I don't mind walking or taking short Uber or taxi rides for mongering. I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.Depending on where you are in Copacabana and how much you like to walk, walking from Copa to Ipanema is easy. So stay in either and walk to the other. Only if you're in the far part of Copa near Av Princess Isabela, it will be a long walk.
Fwiw the water gets cleaner as you go further South. Ipanema is cleaner than Copa but the current is very strong. If you want a nice swimmable clean beach, Barra may be better yet.
Mr Enternational
05-24-21, 20:51
Are you sure your CPF expired? I think they are valid for always.
You can do a check here:
https://servicos.receita.fazenda.gov.br/Servicos/CPF/ConsultaSituacao/ConsultaPublica.aspYou are absolutely correct. I dug through some old paperwork and found my number and plugged it into the website. Still good!
Truer words have never been spoken. LOL.
What are all those babes from Tinder and SA doing when they aren't being paid playing girlfriends?I would venture getting fucked in the ass by their real namarados. Just my $.02.
Mr Enternational
05-24-21, 21:14
A number of year ago I went to the Varig office in Manhattan to purchase a ticket from Rio to Curitiba, they wanted 300 damn dollars for a one way ticket. When I told him that I was only paying $375 bucks for my round trip ticket from NYC to Rio, the guy just shrugged his shoulders. I called up my girlfriend in Curitiba and she was able to book a ticket for the same day, same time and same flight from Rio to Curitiba for only 80 bucks!! I was pissed!LOL. It is the same way in Colombia with Avianca. When you use the Spanish version of the Colombian website the tickets are cheaper. It is like this in Peru as well, but they have a disclaimer that if you are not in possession of a Peruvian ID when you show up for the flight, then you will be charged the remainder of the foreigner price.
Mr Enternational
05-24-21, 21:27
I like to spend a lot of time in the ocean. Is the water cleaner in Ipanema than Copa? How bad is the water quality? I don't mind walking or taking short Uber or taxi rides for mongering. I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.Meh, it is basically the same water. 1 neighborhood over is not making a difference on water quality. The ocean does not know where the neighborhoods divide. I have been getting into both for years with no ill effects.
After kicking around for a few days I think I've got the lay a the land. Here are a few thoughts.
Copacabana- is more grunge and chaotic than I had imagined. Don't get me wrong, the beach is amazing, but as you make your way in a couple streets you begin to see the character of the city. For hobbyists used to a clean, organized American city etc, it will disappoint. It's not immediately logical how to function on the day to day- but certainly can be done. It feels safe enough- don't be an obvious tourist and advertise yourself as a target and you should be fine. Don't accept fliers from guys walking at night on the beach area with no one else around. Don't get fall down drunk and stagger around. I felt fine walking from club to club at night and would feel silly taking a taxi from one to the other. That being said there was a major fracas at 4 am last night outside my window with drunken brawlers and broken car windows that lasted a good 25 minutes before they were chased off. Wouldn't want to walk up on that. The shady characters that are obvious are less dangerous than the shady characters that aren't.
Leblon- I like to walk so yesterday walked from Leblon to Atlantico to see la terre with my own eyes. As mentioned, Leblon is well appointed, clean, safe, expensive. Airbnb's reflect this. If you want an experience "similar" to Santa Monica or Leguna Beach, stay here.
Ipanema- I will be headed to an airbnb there next, it seems like a great mix- organized and clean enough to operate daily tasks, but not so well-heeled as Leblon. There's a nice Starbucks where I can imagine myself writing, etc. And other great facilities- gyms, outdoor cafe's etc. This stuff exists in Copa, but feels more run-down. Will not be able to take out from clubs so easy, but. Trade offs.
Leme- I only discovered this morning. I have a great airbnb on Princesa Isabela and finally walked across Atlantico to are Gustavo Sampaio and having discovered this. Charming. Street, will be doing most of my day to day here. G Sampaio is extremely pleasant, shaded, clean with everything you could want. No point in slogging around in Copa when this is right across the street! The beach on this end is amazing as well, with the Ponta do Leme, a great vantage point to see the city and surfers catch waves (some huge sets rolling in right now).
Since your so close to Leme, check out Bar do David as a cool place to hang out and score some local tail:
Chapyou Mangueira. Ladeira Ary Barroso- Leme, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22010-060, Brazil.
I'm planning to take my first trip to Rio sometime around December or January. I'm trying to decide between Copa and Ipanema. I like to spend a lot of time in the ocean. Is the water cleaner in Ipanema than Copa? How bad is the water quality? I don't mind walking or taking short Uber or taxi rides for mongering. I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.It's not very good.
Like Combo I've always thought that water gets better farther south from Copa. But I'm afraid Mr. E might be right. See for yourself.
https://praialimpa.net/
They rate all the beaches in Rio daily. I wouldn't trust them blindly, but that's some reference. The good thing is you don't have to choose. If you stay close to Arpoador, you can always go left (Copa) or go right (Ipa). Consult the website daily.
By the way: https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/brazil-privatizes-rio-de-janeiros-water-sewage-utility-77428287.
We'll see if anything changes in the near future.
My first trip back to Rio in over a year. Can anyone tell me where I can find a 18 year old college student that's desperate for money. I'm looking for a blond about 5 ft 4 in.
OK you can unclench your jaw, loosen your fist and stop pounding your desk. This was my attempt at a little humor. I normally make at least 5 trips to SA a year. I have been spending a lot of time in Colombia. Looks like Columbia may be going into a civil war. Friends that live in Bogota tell me not to come down. They say it is as dangerous as they have ever seen it. Looking around SA, some countries just do not want tourists. Brazil is different. Brazil needs the tourist dollar and the big shots in the government could care less about covid19 deaths. I have had 2 madira shots and what the hell. My little buddy Spike says go for it.
I read this site daylie. If it wasn't for ISG I would of jumped off a bridge long ago. Preparing for this trip I reread about 20 pages just to get caught up. When your planning a trip it's fun to reread at least 20-30 pages. I do have a few questions. While in Rio in the evening I always enjoyed Setting on a walkway bench at the beach watching the young kids play soccer or the one I like the best is when they play volleyball but don't use their hands only their feet or their head. These kids have so much talent. I read some time ago that due to covid 19 the beach for locals playing sports was closed. That would be a disappointment. Anyone have a comment on this.
Also normally I stay at the Real Residents Hotel. I wonder if they are still open. But really it doesn't matter. There are so many great bargains on AIRBNB I may try an entire new area in copa.
Ok if anyone can help me with that little blond I'm looking- aw forget it I will be there in 2 weeks so I Will find a blond myself.
Vagabundo1
05-24-21, 23:19
The water is so bad at Copa that it is noticably thicker with shit when it is warmer.
Barra posto 1-7 is where you want to be to swim in the ocean.
I'm planning to take my first trip to Rio sometime around December or January. I'm trying to decide between Copa and Ipanema. I like to spend a lot of time in the ocean. Is the water cleaner in Ipanema than Copa? How bad is the water quality? I don't mind walking or taking short Uber or taxi rides for mongering. I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.
Mr Enternational
05-25-21, 00:01
I just want to be able to walk to the beach and swim in a warm clean ocean. Also walk to good restaurants.Also, if you are looking for warm then you are not going to get it in Rio. You would want to go to Bahia and up for that. But if you are there in December or January like you say, then you may welcome the cold water after being on that burning sand. It literally melted my shoes (Crocs flip flops) one Christmas.
Since your so close to Leme, check out Bar do David as a cool place to hang out and score some local tail:
Chapyou Mangueira. Ladeira Ary Barroso- Leme, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22010-060, Brazil.
Bar do David is an excellent choice for food. For those who don't like to enter a favela for having lunch, Bar do David has opened another restaurant in the corner of Rua Barata Ribeiro and Rua Prado Junior. It's not the same atmosphere as the original restaurant but the food is about the same.
I consider Bar do David perfectly save to visit, but a Dutch tourist eating at the restaurant got shot in the belly (I think in Dezember 2018) when there were a shootout between PM and bandits. Usually the bandits have a guy with a machinegun keeping watch 10 metres from the restaurant.
Regarding "scoring local tail" in Chapéu Mangueira. There are plenty of pretty girls passing by the restaurant. Smile and say "Oi" but be very careful trying to score "local tails" in favelas. Most pretty girls in the favelas do have boyfriends.
It's been almost 10 years since my last trip to Brazil, and on a whim me and 2 friends are headed down on Thursday for a week. There has been some great posts the last few days showing me what to expect. I really really miss Help. That was like the Mecca of Mongering but I know it's a new Rio now. We were able to rent a 6 bedroom Penthouse with rooftop pool for $320 a night in Arpador. Can't believe how cheap everything is right now. Looking forward to the termas but my question is what bars and clubs are there in Ipanema, Copa, Leme, that are safe for tourists. I'm not stupid. Don't wear expensive shit and stand out. But my lack of Portugese might give it away. LOL. Have 2 newbies coming with me so want to make sure I show them a good time. I've spent a lot of Covid in Jaco Costa Rica but Covid has gotten worse there and now there is a 9 pm curfew. Also what is the story with Tranamerica building in Barra. I heard there are lots of porn pros in there and wondering how to get in. I was also at Hong Kong this weekend in Tijuana and I can confirm Covid is gone in Tijuana. Lol
Vagabundo1
05-25-21, 10:12
The optimal hotels are:
Hotel Atlántico tower, rua inhuama 95 (bad spelling), which is in the dark side, two blocks from T31, two blocks from 4 x 4, two blocks from club 116, walking distance to all the centro prives.
Transamerica, av gastao senges 395.
If I were dropping into Rio from the sky last minute, those would be my two checkpoints for shit shower shave supper sex sleep. You can even swim at both, as both have pools. I mean, you can't really swim in a 10 meter by 10 meter pool, but you can go up there with a girl and grab her ass and have fun.
I am thinking of heading to other Brazilian cities, following the ranking that senor Sperto put together. (thanks). Since the ones north are warmer now I am thinking of Belo Horizonte, and Fortaleza.
I will move this discussion over to the travel announcements thread. (once I find Sperto's rankings).
But, even if you ignore VM and instead do club 116 and T31, in addition to the prives in central, and Perola Negra and Paris, that is more than enough source for 40 days.
That is the optimal selection.
Yes 4 x 4 too since it only has 50 reais cover.
Ignore the termas with covers over 100 (solarium, MC, centaurus).
Stay in barra not copacabana.
Vagabundo1
05-25-21, 10:45
I went to RB156 yesterday.
I just gave them my "name" and they pulled it and gave me a card to go into and out of the building.
I just wanted a real massage at onix.
It was 110 r for an hour, and 60 for intimo.
As it turned out a real massage also included a hand job, which is a nice gesture. I was just looking for a deep tissue massage.
Someone added a report a couple of months back, in which they stated that security was looking at photo identification before entering the elevator in No Centro, specifically at Rio Branco 156 building. Can anyone verify if this has become the common practice now? I hope that is not the case. My assumption is that due to people wearing masks, it will deter potential mugging or theft.
I am currently in Rio. I didn't plan on inviting guests during my planned short stay but I have extended my stay by 4 mights, so I would like to book a girl friendly hotel in Copacabana (preferably 0 or 2 blocks from beach). I have stayed in Windsor Palace last 2 nights and staying in Windsor California next 2 nights. I guess both those hotels are not girl friendly. Can some suggest few good girl friendly hotels in Copacabana?
I am currently in Rio. I didn't plan on inviting guests during my planned short stay but I have extended my stay by 4 mights, so I would like to book a girl friendly hotel in Copacabana (preferably 0 or 2 blocks from beach). I have stayed in Windsor Palace last 2 nights and staying in Windsor California next 2 nights. I guess both those hotels are not girl friendly. Can some suggest few good girl friendly hotels in Copacabana?You're in Copacabana now. Wouldn't it be easier to pass by some hotels and ask them if they allow guests? Don't be shy, it's a perfectly normal question to ask in the hotel receptions.
Another option would be a forum search or check out the thread "Rio de Janeiro - Hotels & Apartments".
I am currently in Rio. I didn't plan on inviting guests during my planned short stay but I have extended my stay by 4 mights, so I would like to book a girl friendly hotel in Copacabana (preferably 0 or 2 blocks from beach). I have stayed in Windsor Palace last 2 nights and staying in Windsor California next 2 nights. I guess both those hotels are not girl friendly. Can some suggest few good girl friendly hotels in Copacabana?I like the Astoria Palace. It has been some time since I stayed there, but it was girl-friendly. The Promenade Princess Copacabana was also good, but further away from the beach (and more expensive). I'm not a fan of the Pestana since I found a standard room there to be below my expectations. I should be able to get a room that meets basic standards without having to pay for a premium room. The Pestana did not provide me with that.
https://astoriapalace.com.br/
You're in Copacabana now. Wouldn't it be easier to pass by some hotels and ask them if they allow guests? Don't be shy, it's a perfectly normal question to ask in the hotel receptions.
Another option would be a forum search or check out the thread "Rio de Janeiro - Hotels & Apartments".Thanks, Sperto for quick response and pointers. I always wondered why there are no threads for FAQs. Now I know that sort of info is available under user blogs section, which I rarely pay attention to.
Vagabundo1
05-25-21, 17:11
Where is the uniform shop at 1 distrito naval?
Member #4729
05-25-21, 17:19
Zebra checking in, sitting in the very pleasant Copa Starbucks typing this, watching the world go by. The week has been interesting so far- Sunday Clara cancelled our 3 pm and rescheduled for the next dya at noon, which turned out to be fine because I was hungover and didn't have much energy except to shuffle around the beach and watch this enormous motorcycle parade go by- seemed to be Brazilian themed with lots of flags. Experienced posters can chime in if this was some National Holiday or just a normal Sunday occurrence as Atlantico was closed after to all but foot traffic. Lovely afternoon.
Monday Clara came over for our noon appointment, as usual eager to please. I sucked on the huge titties and busted a nut on and in that pretty face / mouth as she begged for it. Such a nice girl. Freelances at Whiskeria if anyone can't connect or find her on dating apps. Still, I'm not going to call her for a bit- men crave novelty.
I slid over to Monte Carlo a few hours later where India was waiting for me. I summoned some more nut and we hit the cabine after a couple of drinks. She was still eager to please, but after the initial thrill of a new girl wears off you can sort of tell that this is the thousandth dude they've sucked off and its really just a performance. Nevertheless, India has me entranced and has figured out how to use ZebraStripes as an ATM. After fucking, we go back down to the boate and she order food on me. Bill reflected this, but this is the last time I'm going in there to get her now that I've got the zapp, etc. I saw one other dude that night- looked like a Korean businessman, and with all these hot (10+) WG's sitting around looking bored as F pretty much falling asleep in the dim light. Again- I'm amazed at the ratio- how the hell are these girls paying the bills? Maybe I just need to hit up Centro on a weekend and I'll see different crowd.
India asked if she could come over after work and we negotiated a pernoite of 600 (double her session fee of 300). I started low boys, I really did but she just would not budge. Keep in mind as far as the things I like I would consider this girl a 10. Slender, petite, perfect caramel skin, gorgeous face, 21 yrs old- very sweet, allows oral no camisinha, deepthroat, and CIM. All things I require to get off. I'm sure I could find a pernoite in there for 300 or 400, but could I get off? Probably not. Some posters are obviously more able to synthesize good experiences across a broader range of requirements and will be able to keep the costs down.
A poster recently asked what the point of a Terma could be- I think of it as a sort of talent agency and emporium. Over the internet, you just don't know what you are going to get- but here it's all on display and there is an abundance of choices. The opportunity is there to test drive on premises, and once having established a rapport, get the zapp for offsite engagements. I doubt I will be going in there to see India again, we will meet at my place from now on.
Speaking of which we have an outing to Buzios planned tentatively for Thursday- one of her days off. Looks reasonable to me as far as uber fare there, hotels, restaurants etc. The thing is, she doesn't speak English and I don't really speak Portuguese, so its not going to be riveting conversation. I got a taste of this when we had breakfast this morning. By the way, if girl ever asks you to go get her food because she is tired (as happened this morning), that's a shit test you can fail. I said hell no- you're coming with me, and she relented. Anyways, here I am walking around with this girl half my age, the whole thing is a bit ridiculous and you just need to sort of go along with it. Not that I look really old- but as one poster here eloquently wrote a while back- when you see two people of an age difference sitting together not talking, you pretty much know its about the money. I've showed her the things I do in my real life and she was impressed, but this girl is getting paid to be impressed. I think you just got to remember that. Still, I prefer something more along the line of a SA or GFE because its just exhausting to keep filtering through once you find a girl that fits.
I'm sure I will have a story to tell about Buzio, if that happens. Not sure if I'm going to poke around the boates before then- we shall see. I'm pretty satiated at the moment, and moving into a new airbnb tomorrow.
Again, I appreciate this resource and the camaraderie. Conditions on the ground are just about as ideal as it gets, but with SEA and now Colombia closed, its probable a wave of mongers are gathering to crash upon the shores. But it's a free market and the market place determines the price. I remember hearing that what caused the prices in Pattaya to go up was a combination of the girls having access to phones and an influx of Asian mongers that saw bargaining for a lower price as a loss of face. Over the next year as hobbyists make their way into the world market the sweet spot that prices are in now will surely sour- but for the moment they seem decent.
Cheers.
I like the Astoria Palace. It has been some time since I stayed there, but it was girl-friendly.
https://astoriapalace.com.br/Thanks, Cane. I called the hotel Astoria to confirm it is guest friendly before booking through a travel site.
As the hotel site is not working for some reason.
I am thinking of heading to other Brazilian cities, following the ranking that senor Sperto put together. (thanks). Since the ones north are warmer now I am thinking of Belo Horizonte, and Fortaleza.BH's winter climate is not that much different than Rio's. Small city with some charming areas. There seems to be a lot of good-looking women, but the "scene" is small.
Zebra
Speaking of which we have an outing to Buzios planned tentatively for Thursday- one of her days off. Looks reasonable to me as far as uber fare there, hotels, restaurants etc. The thing is, she doesn't speak English and I don't really speak Portuguese, so its not going to be riveting conversation. I got a taste of this when we had breakfast this morning.
.1) Make 100% sure (In writing is better) whether or not she expects to get paid for that trip to Buzios! I have seen countless mongers think they were on a "Date" with a working girl, not knowing that the meter was running and she expects payment.
2) Why on earth are you taking an Uber to Buzios? Why not just grab a bus from downtown instead?
3) If you think the age difference stands out in Copa, magnify that by 10 in Buzios.
IMHO, you barely know this girl (you probably don't even know her real name) and besides the fact that she allows you to cum in her mouth, you have nothing in common. Just keep paying her to come over after work and skip the nightmare you will experience taking a trip to a destination 4 hours away with a girl you can't communicate with.
Member #4729
05-25-21, 22:51
1) Make 100% sure (In writing is better) whether or not she expects to get paid for that trip to Buzios! I have seen countless mongers think they were on a "Date" with a working girl, not knowing that the meter was running and she expects payment.
2) Why on earth are you taking an Uber to Buzios? Why not just grab a bus from downtown instead?
3) If you think the age difference stands out in Copa, magnify that by 10 in Buzios.
IMHO, you barely know this girl (you probably don't even know her real name) and besides the fact that she allows you to cum in her mouth, you have nothing in common. Just keep paying her to come over after work and skip the nightmare you will experience taking a trip to a destination 4 hours away with a girl you can't communicate with.Thanks for your thoughts, Bravo I appreciate the insight. To clarify a little bit-yes we have agreed on a price- I'm definitely not that naive. Honestly it was her suggestion, not something I came up with-and she even showed me images of a hotel, etc. She said she is from Cabo Frio. I don't think visually we look that jarring together- I don't have any grey hairs and am pretty fit, so its not a jaw drop, but I'm sure people will cluck about it to each other at the hotel pool, etc. Since I'm not involved in American politics, I think to the extent there's a scandal it will be judgmental onlookers, and haters going to hate. The uber fare was about $55 USD and looked like 2+ hrs not 4 which sounds do-able and better than being in a bus. You could be totally right and this could easily run off the rails- but then I'll just have a great story to tell you guys. I'm dumping all my stuff at my new airbnb and its just an overnight so if she turns into a mega-***** its not going to be for more than 24 hours that I need to deal with it.
By all means if any more experienced contributors here want to weigh in also, I'd love more advice, these are great considerations and will put me in a better position.
Knowing WG's she'll probably flake last minute anyways (although that would mean missing that payday).
SinfullyKorean
05-25-21, 22:58
I like the Astoria Palace. It has been some time since I stayed there, but it was girl-friendly. The Promenade Princess Copacabana was also good, but further away from the beach (and more expensive). I'm not a fan of the Pestana since I found a standard room there to be below my expectations. I should be able to get a room that meets basic standards without having to pay for a premium room. The Pestana did not provide me with that.
https://astoriapalace.com.br/Thanks, Cane. I booked also. $200 for 4 nights (after tax / fees).
SinfullyKorean
05-25-21, 23:37
Zebra checking in, sitting in the very pleasant Copa Starbucks typing this, watching the world go by. The week has been interesting so far- Sunday Clara cancelled our 3 pm and rescheduled for the next dya at noon, which turned out to be fine because I was hungover and didn't have much energy except to shuffle around the beach and watch this enormous motorcycle parade go by- seemed to be Brazilian themed with lots of flags. Experienced posters can chime in if this was some National Holiday or just a normal Sunday occurrence as Atlantico was closed after to all but foot traffic. Lovely afternoon.
Monday Clara came over for our noon appointment, as usual eager to please. I sucked on the huge titties and busted a nut on and in that pretty face / mouth as she begged for it. Such a nice girl. Freelances at Whiskeria if anyone can't connect or find her on dating apps. Still, I'm not going to call her for a bit- men crave novelty.
I slid over to Monte Carlo a few hours later where India was waiting for me. I summoned some more nut and we hit the cabine after a couple of drinks. She was still eager to please, but after the initial thrill of a new girl wears off you can sort of tell that this is the thousandth dude they've sucked off and its really just a performance. Nevertheless, India has me entranced and has figured out how to use ZebraStripes as an ATM. After fucking, we go back down to the boate and she order food on me. Bill reflected this, but this is the last time I'm going in there to get her now that I've got the zapp, etc. I saw one other dude that night- looked like a Korean businessman, and with all these hot (10+) WG's sitting around looking bored as F pretty much falling asleep in the dim light. Again- I'm amazed at the ratio- how the hell are these girls paying the bills? Maybe I just need to hit up Centro on a weekend and I'll see different crowd.Thanks for the report, Zebra! I'll staying a couple blocks away (Thanks Cane) and will make Monte Carlo one of my first stops.
Mr Enternational
05-25-21, 23:47
I like the Astoria Palace.I have not gotten a chance to write any reports but since you mentioned it. I stayed a couple of days at Transamerica in Barra da Tijuca. It was not for me. It is far out and isolated and you have to take an Uber anywhere you want to go. Ubers are readily available, always dropping off and picking up. I did have a beautiful view, but I am used to walking a couple of steps to be at restaurants, grocery stores, bars, beach, whatever. I paid 500 reais for 3 nights there, but did not stay the third.
I moved to Astoria Palace in Copacabana where I had a beachfront king room with jacuzzi on the 10th floor and breakfast buffet included. I paid $40 per night.
I have not gotten a chance to write any reports but since you mentioned it. I stayed a couple of days at Transamerica in Barra da Tijuca. It was not for me. It is far out and isolated and you have to take an Uber anywhere you want to go. Ubers are readily available, always dropping off and picking up. I did have a beautiful view, but I am used to walking a couple of steps to be at restaurants, grocery stores, bars, beach, whatever. I paid 500 reais for 3 days there, but left on the second day.
I moved to Astoria Palace in Copacabana where I had a beachfront king room with jacuzzi on the 10th floor and breakfast buffet included. I paid $40 per night.Great and horny minds think alike on this! Hahaha!
SinfullyKorean
05-26-21, 00:25
I moved to Astoria Palace in Copacabana where I had a beachfront king room with jacuzzi on the 10th floor and breakfast buffet included. I paid $40 per night.That's an amazing deal! Did you get those rates due to low season? The same room is now going for almost $100/ night.
Thanks for the report.
India asked if she could come over after work and we negotiated a pernoite of 600 (double her session fee of 300).From her point of view, she took more than double her regular fee because there is no middle man. If you only want to have a same session with her outside of work, the fee can be negotiated down in theory.
I started low boys, I really did but she just would not budge. Keep in mind as far as the things I like I would consider this girl a 10. Slender, petite, perfect caramel skin, gorgeous face, 21 yrs old- very sweet, allows oral no camisinha, deepthroat, and CIM. All things I require to get off. I'm sure I could find a pernoite in there for 300 or 400, but could I get off? Probably not. Some posters are obviously more able to synthesize good experiences across a broader range of requirements and will be able to keep the costs down.
I look at this as batting average. No one has said it is 100% batting average. You only have one opportunity so it is hard to judge but I think 600 for a 10 is a pretty good deal.
Mr Enternational
05-26-21, 01:14
That's an amazing deal! Did you get those rates due to low season? The same room is now going for almost $100/ night.That was just at the beginning of this month like the 6th maybe? I booked it the night before or the same day on hotelsdotcom.
Vagabundo1
05-26-21, 01:17
I did find this one.
But I am looking for the dress uniform shop. I find these a good source of well priced formal cloths. A black tie is a black tie, a blue sports coat is a blue sports coat.
But along those lines if anyone knows a good place for a suit, please advise. I found some on alfandega, but want something like the tailored suits one can find in Pohang for cents on the dollar compared to London. Something to practice law in, as I also found some of the courts.
Where is the uniform shop at 1 distrito naval?
Vagabundo1
05-26-21, 01:26
This is why one must "make a market" by doing centro or tijuca prive girls who are positively reviewed on gparena.net for 50-70 reais a girl, 3 times a day, for the first 3 days (that would be 9 girls, who are paid 60 for their pussy).
Then, message all 9 looking for pernoite. You will surely get them for 300 pernoite plus uber and eats.
Thanks for the report.
From her point of view, she took more than double her regular fee because there is no middle man. If you only want to have a same session with her outside of work, the fee can be negotiated down in theory.
I look at this as batting average. No one has said it is 100% batting average. You only have one opportunity so it is hard to judge but I think 600 for a 10 is a pretty good deal.
Vagabundo1
05-26-21, 01:27
Also, the centro prive / terma girls will want to leave for pernoite at 21 h for the terma girls, or at 18 - 19 h for the prive girls.
Thanks for the report.
From her point of view, she took more than double her regular fee because there is no middle man. If you only want to have a same session with her outside of work, the fee can be negotiated down in theory.
I look at this as batting average. No one has said it is 100% batting average. You only have one opportunity so it is hard to judge but I think 600 for a 10 is a pretty good deal.
Zebra checking in, sitting in the very pleasant Copa Starbucks typing this, watching the world go by. The week has been interesting so far- Sunday Clara cancelled our 3 pm and rescheduled for the next dya at noon, which turned out to be fine because I was hungover and didn't have much energy except to shuffle around the beach and watch this enormous motorcycle parade go by- seemed to be Brazilian themed with lots of flags. Experienced posters can chime in if this was some National Holiday or just a normal Sunday occurrence as Atlantico was closed after to all but foot traffic. Lovely afternoon.No, it was probably senior Bolsonaro, the father of the nation, giving himself a tap on a shoulder for handling the Covid crisis so beautifully. With "only" 450,000 dead, he should give himself a medal, methink.
https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20210524-thousands-rally-at-motorbike-parade-for-brazil-s-bolsonaro-despite-pandemic
Speaking of which we have an outing to Buzios planned tentatively for Thursday- one of her days off.
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I'm sure I will have a story to tell about Buzio, if that happens.I'm sure you will, but I very much concur with Bravo.
1. Don't go to Buzios with a girl you've just met.
2. Don't go to Buzios for one day. What for? It's a 3. 5-4 hour ride one way. You'll return tired, exhausted and annoyed.
3. Don't go to Buzios in Uber unless you want her to suck you along the way. Jesus, what for? There is a very comfortable bus that'll get you there in the same amount of time as a car, and you'll probably pay 10-15 times less.
4. If she went to town on food in MC, your wallet will be hit harder in Buzios. It's a pricey town. Dinner and drinks will cost you as they would in New York.
5. Honestly, I don't see the point, but if you absolutely must go to Buzios, buy a day tour. They take you to some port on a bus (about an hour north), then move to a barca for the rest of the trip with a stop for swimming along the way. And they serve caipirinha and light snacks onboard. That's fun, at least.
Good luck!
Pahllus Maximus
05-26-21, 03:24
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Pahllus Maximus
05-26-21, 03:30
As they say, you generally pay for them to leave after they have relieved you. It's easy to think its an investment as you blow tadpoles in her tonsils, she cannot speak, even if she knew English. So a length trip away with someone whose oral skills does not include actual communication could be a drag.
Legs in the air, legs over shoulders in fishnets and heels in deep mish. The peronite will be interesting. Usually I require a BBJCIM and coffee (reverse order) waking up, and again on my way to the airport in a limo. How many shots in 24 hours? Can I do all three holes? These are the decisions that trouble my brothers. I find a BBJCIM and a 300 MG of CBD puts airlines / security into the right frame of mind, naturally follows a good sleep back on the trip home. Only once did I get a Air France flight attendant to provide extra help in a long trip, and managed to land her in Lyon on my next trip.
I admire the girls, doing what nature intended and bringing great joy and memories on shagging an 18 year old and her giggling. Later in life, this will bring wistful and happy memories. Maybe what is needed is elder care for senior citizens with holistic care, exercise, doctors, nurses and special nurses that specialize in stiffness and swelling.
Life is good! Or at least outside of USA sex prison.
This is why one must "make a market" by doing centro or tijuca prive girls who are positively reviewed on gparena.net for 50-70 reais a girl, 3 times a day, for the first 3 days (that would be 9 girls, who are paid 60 for their pussy).
Then, message all 9 looking for pernoite. You will surely get them for 300 pernoite plus uber and eats.Been checking out guarena and couldn't find any girl for 70 are $, all above 150.
Vagabundo1
05-26-21, 04:43
The picture reminds me of General Butt Nekid, an African warlord we got to know who fought with no cloths.
Further, it is clear that my posts here are being read and are affecting my "market" and not for the better. But there are plenty of fish in the sea.
I'm in bed with a girl from 116 the secret terma, pernoite for 350 plus uber and eats.
That said it is annoying as fuck that every thing is about her taking drugs. I met some high quality non pros today. And I am looking forward to that. My thing is for military or police girls who carry. I like that in a woman. If cordite instead of cannabis gets her wet, it might be love, because it might be friendship.
Bar do David is an excellent choice for food. For those who don't like to enter a favela for having lunch, Bar do David has opened another restaurant in the corner of Rua Barata Ribeiro and Rua Prado Junior. It's not the same atmosphere as the original restaurant but the food is about the same.
I consider Bar do David perfectly save to visit, but a Dutch tourist eating at the restaurant got shot in the belly (I think in Dezember 2018) when there were a shootout between PM and bandits. Usually the bandits have a guy with a machinegun keeping watch 10 metres from the restaurant.
Regarding "scoring local tail" in Chapu Mangueira. There are plenty of pretty girls passing by the restaurant. Smile and say "Oi" but be very careful trying to score "local tails" in favelas. Most pretty girls in the favelas do have boyfriends.
Vagabundo1
05-26-21, 04:45
Just for perspective, the onix girl who gave me a real massage today pays 600 a month rent for her casa in bangu.
She doesn't do drugs, works out before she comes to work. Which is the kind of thing I should be looking for more.
Thanks for the report.
From her point of view, she took more than double her regular fee because there is no middle man. If you only want to have a same session with her outside of work, the fee can be negotiated down in theory.
I look at this as batting average. No one has said it is 100% batting average. You only have one opportunity so it is hard to judge but I think 600 for a 10 is a pretty good deal.
Vagabundo1
05-26-21, 04:50
These are all solid tips for Buzios.
If it is not two nights, don't go.
Take a uber to rodoviaria, and take the bus.
No, it was probably senior Bolsonaro, the father of the nation, giving himself a tap on a shoulder for handling the Covid crisis so beautifully. With "only" 450,000 dead, he should give himself a medal, methink.
https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20210524-thousands-rally-at-motorbike-parade-for-brazil-s-bolsonaro-despite-pandemic
I'm sure you will, but I very much concur with Bravo.
1. Don't go to Buzios with a girl you've just met.
2. Don't go to Buzios for one day. What for? It's a 3. 5-4 hour ride one way. You'll return tired, exhausted and annoyed.
3. Don't go to Buzios in Uber unless you want her to suck you along the way. Jesus, what for? There is a very comfortable bus that'll get you there in the same amount of time as a car, and you'll probably pay 10-15 times less.
Vagabundo1
05-26-21, 05:11
I love the hydro masagem!
I may go apartment hunting for a place with a hydro massagem!
I wonder if the Astoria would be open to my renting that suite monthly for 3000 reais a month. Cash is king.
In any case, it was a real honor to meet the famous (in our world) Mr E in person!
He came into my room at TA with Monique and I smoking up a storm, and we later agreed it was a scene out of Jackie Brown.
I will say, that like Mr. E, and some of the other mongers like Safado69, it may be the better policy to just not smoke weed or for that matter anything. The smoking is really irritating my throat, but some studies quoted in economist.com say that smoking is good for Covid in some way.
I was in the secret terma tonight and could take only so much of that dense smoke and all that Brazilian rap.
The talent there was superb. New Morenas with bunda boa. That wench I have been fucking has been kind of cock blocking me. That morena mel with the nice bunda told me to contact her through Nicole negra. So she (Nicole) has totally tried to mark me as her client in the secret terma. Fuk that! I am in bed with another secret terma girl pernoite.
I have not gotten a chance to write any reports but since you mentioned it. I stayed a couple of days at Transamerica in Barra da Tijuca. It was not for me. It is far out and isolated and you have to take an Uber anywhere you want to go. Ubers are readily available, always dropping off and picking up. I did have a beautiful view, but I am used to walking a couple of steps to be at restaurants, grocery stores, bars, beach, whatever. I paid 500 reais for 3 nights there, but did not stay the third.
I moved to Astoria Palace in Copacabana where I had a beachfront king room with jacuzzi on the 10th floor and breakfast buffet included. I paid $40 per night.
Vagabundo1
05-26-21, 05:31
I hate to say it but you are overpaying. But we discussed that. In Anaggie's one day 8 hour Terma run in Rio. (and I said, my comments are without assigning blame, just a debrief, and in his favor, negotiating bareback in advance is a good technique, and if you have the money and not the time, then whatever. Go for it).
The obvious thing that all the ready players 4 to infinity sitting at home can and should do is learn Portuguese before coming to Rio.
Not just a good porto language course from the library. Digitize the CDS and play them over and over again. But also just google Felipe ret, and translate the lyrics. Pretend it is like vital intelligence that your balls and your money depend on and you are required to learn Felipe ret like some of us were forced to memorize Beouwulf in Old English.
Here's a protip for how to make the Buzios trip OK. Get a bluetooth speaker. Between water taxis to praia dos ossos, and the other praias. Play Felipe ret!
Zebra checking in, sitting in the very pleasant Copa Starbucks typing this, watching the world go by. The week has been interesting so far- Sunday Clara cancelled our 3 pm and rescheduled for the next dya at noon, which turned out to be fine because I was hungover and didn't have much energy except to shuffle around the beach and watch this enormous motorcycle parade go by- seemed to be Brazilian themed with lots of flags. Experienced posters can chime in if this was some National Holiday or just a normal Sunday occurrence as Atlantico was closed after to all but foot traffic. Lovely afternoon.
Monday Clara came over for our noon appointment, as usual eager to please. I sucked on the huge titties and busted a nut on and in that pretty face / mouth as she begged for it. Such a nice girl. Freelances at Whiskeria if anyone can't connect or find her on dating apps. Still, I'm not going to call her for a bit- men crave novelty.
I slid over to Monte Carlo a few hours later where India was waiting for me. I summoned some more nut and we hit the cabine after a couple of drinks. She was still eager to please, but after the initial thrill of a new girl wears off you can sort of tell that this is the thousandth dude they've sucked off and its really just a performance. Nevertheless, India has me entranced and has figured out how to use ZebraStripes as an ATM. After fucking, we go back down to the boate and she order food on me. Bill reflected this, but this is the last time I'm going in there to get her now that I've got the zapp, etc. I saw one other dude that night- looked like a Korean businessman, and with all these hot (10+) WG's sitting around looking bored as F pretty much falling asleep in the dim light. Again- I'm amazed at the ratio- how the hell are these girls paying the bills? Maybe I just need to hit up Centro on a weekend and I'll see different crowd..
Vagabundo1
05-26-21, 06:10
Maybe this belongs more in a politics thread -- American politics or Brazilian politics -- but frankly, bolsonaro has gotten it right, and I am f'ing glad he is president of the country I have lived in since Covid started.
The man rides a bike. He's the real military man that Trump wanted to be.
He beat Covid himself.
The cure for this flu like "killer" is to go swim in the ocean and get sun at the beach and have a healthy diet to support an immune system.
The state is not supposed to be your nanny, your nurse, your boss, though the puritan eco green control freaks of north America and other rich world countries think it should be.
We have Brazil to thank for 8 dolllar pussy in a world gone fucking crazy.
No, it was probably senior Bolsonaro, the father of the nation, giving himself a tap on a shoulder for handling the Covid crisis so beautifully. With "only" 450,000 dead, he should give himself a medal, methink.
https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20210524-thousands-rally-at-motorbike-parade-for-brazil-s-bolsonaro-despite-pandemic
I'm sure you will, but I very much concur with Bravo.
1. Don't go to Buzios with a girl you've just met.
2. Don't go to Buzios for one day. What for? It's a 3. 5-4 hour ride one way. You'll return tired, exhausted and annoyed.
3. Don't go to Buzios in Uber unless you want her to suck you along the way. Jesus, what for? There is a very comfortable bus that'll get you there in the same amount of time as a car, and you'll probably pay 10-15 times less.
Mr Enternational
05-26-21, 11:23
The uber fare was about $55 USD and looked like 2+ hrs not 4 which sounds do-able and better than being in a bus.I took the 1001 bus to Buzios in 2005. It was a good option. But today is 2021 and Uber exists. Then you have a good exchange rate to boot. Let me break it down for you because I went through this back in March when I went to Ilha Grande with a chick.
First you will have to get up at maybe 6 am to be at the bus station early. You will have to pay to get to the bus station. Then you need 2 tickets which will be about $15 each. You wait for the bus to depart. On the other end you do not know where you are going and have to get transportation there. So you have already spent at least $45 anyway. For me, the extra $10 is worth me calling the transportation at a time that is convenient for me and going directly where I want to go, be able to make a stop if and when I want to. Hell, mfs were paying taxis $55 to get from the airport to Copacabana back in the day.
Member #4729
05-26-21, 14:07
I'm sure you will, but I very much concur with Bravo.
1. Don't go to Buzios with a girl you've just met.
2. Don't go to Buzios for one day. What for? It's a 3. 5-4 hour ride one way. You'll return tired, exhausted and annoyed.
3. Don't go to Buzios in Uber unless you want her to suck you along the way. Jesus, what for? There is a very comfortable bus that'll get you there in the same amount of time as a car, and you'll probably pay 10-15 times less.
4. If she went to town on food in MC, your wallet will be hit harder in Buzios. It's a pricey town. Dinner and drinks will cost you as they would in New York.
5. Honestly, I don't see the point, but if you absolutely must go to Buzios, buy a day tour. They take you to some port on a bus (about an hour north), then move to a barca for the rest of the trip with a stop for swimming along the way. And they serve caipirinha and light snacks onboard. That's fun, at least.
Good luck!I'm tending to agree with you and Bravo. I just initially went along with the idea because, hey why not? But now I can see in broad daylight that so many things need to go right and just one thing off could make it all go pear shaped. I'm going to suggest instead that we hit up a beach club in Grumari and maybe stay at a hotel down there if things go well. That's only an hour uber.
Final thought- I'm actually not even sure we could easily get an uber out to Buzios- remember this driver has to get back as well- a 6 hour time commitment only paid for half.
1) Make 100% sure (In writing is better) whether or not she expects to get paid for that trip to Buzios! I have seen countless mongers think they were on a "Date" with a working girl, not knowing that the meter was running and she expects payment.
2) Why on earth are you taking an Uber to Buzios? Why not just grab a bus from downtown instead?
3) If you think the age difference stands out in Copa, magnify that by 10 in Buzios.
IMHO, you barely know this girl (you probably don't even know her real name) and besides the fact that she allows you to cum in her mouth, you have nothing in common. Just keep paying her to come over after work and skip the nightmare you will experience taking a trip to a destination 4 hours away with a girl you can't communicate with.Burn the advice in the above quote into your brain. Why take a terma garrota you don't know on a nice trip when there are so many women there in Buzios to try and sample? Just my $. 02. Also, remember this -- at the end of the day, she's a ho. 'Nuff said.
I took the 1001 bus to Buzios in 2005. It was a good option. But today is 2021 and Uber exists.There are other options. Outside the back entrance to the rodoviaria there are guys calling out destinations where you can go in their vans or cars. They leave as soon as the vans/cars are full. In March last year it cost me R$70 going to Búzios in the front seat of a car with three more passengers in the back. The driver drove like a maniac. There were quite some traffic so the trip took 3 hours. Going back we went with the 1001 bus. It cost R$80, very comfortable and took 3,5 hours.
P.S These unofficial vans can take you too many different destinations in the state of RJ. I use them a lot.
Thanks for your thoughts, Bravo I appreciate the insight. To clarify a little bit-yes we have agreed on a price- I'm definitely not that naive. Honestly it was her suggestion, not something I came up with-and she even showed me images of a hotel, etc. She said she is from Cabo Frio.If you are very attracted to her and she has a good vibe, go for it. You can't beat hanging out with a local (Cabo Frio) girl.
Hearing about the hotel changes everything. Those 100+ miles seem like they should be a breeze to us gringos, but these aren't wide freeways. Brazil relies on trucking to a great extent so there will be many trucks on the slow road to Buzios.
I did a weekend in Buzios with a 4 x4 girl who didn't speak English. She was very sweet and appreciative. She tolerated my bad Portuguese because she was enjoying herself and simultaneously making money. This girl was kind of demure, but she had great oral suction skills and could thrust her pelvis into your groin rhythmically in a way few women can master. These girls are Brazil's Brand Ambassadors! But I digress.
As Xpartan mentioned, a day on a barca (boat) is a blast. It's a pretty similar routine as the day boats in Southeast Asia. Now of course, you are going to be with a small group for several hours. They will likely keep to themselves, but your date might be tempted to have a real conversation in her native tongue. Anyways, it is what it is. You might be able to get a decent off-season price hiring a small boat and captain for a private tour in Armação de Buzios.
Vagabundo1
05-26-21, 17:06
All the prive girls at prives like TDM33 are priced at 50 for 10 minutes up to 120 for 60 minutes. You go in and get half hour for 60 or 70.
Been checking out guarena and couldn't find any girl for 70 are $, all above 150.
Member #4698
05-26-21, 17:34
Why not rent a car for around $20/ day with unlimited mileage? Then you have total mobility. Go where you want, when you want.
Member #4698
05-26-21, 18:04
Update: I just booked a rental car for $11/ day (manual shift / no upfront cost, free cancelation) so I can explore Rraia de Grumar / Prainha at my leisure one day with one of my favorite girls. I would definitely rent a car at this price if I was planning to go to Buzios for a few days.
All the prive girls at prives like TDM33 are priced at 50 for 10 minutes up to 120 for 60 minutes. You go in and get half hour for 60 or 70.Do you get the girl tested before bareback? Here in commie Europe, you can get the anti-HIV pill for free. I was quite surprised, there is a new drug where you can take the first pill in the afternoon, go bareback at night, and then just take more 2 days. Pretty impressive.
Burn the advice in the above quote into your brain. Why take a terma garrota you don't know on a nice trip when there are so many women there in Buzios to try and sample?I don't think there is much of a pro scene in Buzios. There are a bunch of middle class Brazilians and Argentinians on holiday. Many were with their boyfriends. There seems to be a few Euro and North American backpackers who stroll into town.
I'm just stating what I observed. If some guys want to take a shot at the civilians, girls tend to drop their inhibitions when on holiday in an exotic place particularly the backpacker babes. It is a long trip from Rio though. I think it would suck if you didn't have traveling buddies.
I don't think there is much of a pro scene in Buzios. There are a bunch of middle class Brazilians and Argentinians on holiday. Many were with their boyfriends. There seems to be a few Euro and North American backpackers who stroll into town.
I'm just stating what I observed. If some guys want to take a shot at the civilians, girls tend to drop their inhibitions when on holiday in an exotic place particularly the backpacker babes. It is a long trip from Rio though. I think it would suck if you didn't have traveling buddies.I was in Buzios a few years ago, for 4 days. I agree with you, mostly Brazilian families and Argentinian families. Most of the attractive girls were with their boyfriends. One of our wingman brought a chick with him from Rio, and he was happy. For me, it became a short vacation.
Vagabundo1
05-27-21, 00:55
The prive girls and casas like club 116 are covered.
Girls I'm barebacking get tested and I will help if they are not. Getting tested free.
Do you get the girl tested before bareback? Here in commie Europe, you can get the anti-HIV pill for free. I was quite surprised, there is a new drug where you can take the first pill in the afternoon, go bareback at night, and then just take more 2 days. Pretty impressive.
Vagabundo1
05-27-21, 01:03
I have been in all the tier 1 termas (solarium, MC, though not Centaurus) in the last 6 months; and in many of the prives.
There are girls who are at the same level in the prives.
The prives are maybe a little harder to do logistically. You have to go to multiple prives, take notes, etc. Deal with the bad elevators and walk down the stairs in some buildings like TDM33.
Many of the girls in prives will not meet outside, but all that said, even for a monger with 1 or 2 weeks in town, the prive route is the smart money route, the Spartan Senor Sperto route as opposed to the Athenian Maximum Budget Route. And the sex is as good or the same.
Thanks for the report.
From her point of view, she took more than double her regular fee because there is no middle man. If you only want to have a same session with her outside of work, the fee can be negotiated down in theory.
I look at this as batting average. No one has said it is 100% batting average. You only have one opportunity so it is hard to judge but I think 600 for a 10 is a pretty good deal.
I have been in all the tier 1 termas (solarium, MC, though not Centaurus) in the last 6 months; and in many of the prives. There are girls who are at the same level in the prives. And the sex is as good or the same.But the overall type of experience and scene isn't. Staying way the hell out in Barra. Hitting only mostly prives in centro when going out. Far away from the main action and no termas with the kind of social interaction and mingling with the girls that I like. I'm not interested in taking a "Spartan" vacation to any place really. I don't want to and I don't have to. Not my idea of a good time.
.......the prive route is the smart money route, the Spartan Senor Sperto route as opposed to the Athenian Maximum Budget Route.It's all Greek to me.
I'm tending to agree with you and Bravo. I just initially went along with the idea because, hey why not? But now I can see in broad daylight that so many things need to go right and just one thing off could make it all go pear shaped. I'm going to suggest instead that we hit up a beach club in Grumari and maybe stay at a hotel down there if things go well. That's only an hour uber.
Final thought- I'm actually not even sure we could easily get an uber out to Buzios- remember this driver has to get back as well- a 6 hour time commitment only paid for half.Let me tell you this. I absolutely love Busios, and cariocas don't call it paraiso for nothing. But the best way to go is with a girl you know well and for at least 3-4 days, IMHO. I'm talking from a personal (bad) experience. Other times when I was there with a buddy, we had a blast. And if you have a budget, there are fantastic hillside million dollar-view villas that you can rent for around $150 or less if you negotiate a last minute stay. Can be a blast with a right kind of girl.
I don't think there is much of a pro scene in Buzios. There are a bunch of middle class Brazilians and Argentinians on holiday. Many were with their boyfriends. There seems to be a few Euro and North American backpackers who stroll into town.
I'm just stating what I observed. If some guys want to take a shot at the civilians, girls tend to drop their inhibitions when on holiday in an exotic place particularly the backpacker babes. It is a long trip from Rio though. I think it would suck if you didn't have traveling buddies.Exactly right, they thoroughly protect their "family-friendly" image, but with the proliferation of mileroticos, photoacompanhantes, fatal models, etc, there isn't much they can do. When I was on Ilha Grande, some girls I messaged told me they were working in Busios at the moment, so it seems to be a popular spot for GDPs. Before that, there was one rundown club with butt-ugly garotas on the outskirts of Buzios.
Also, very, very few single girls or women. In fact, when I say few, I mean almost none. On the other hand, I've seen plenty of young, carefree male backpackers, so anyone who travels to Buzios to hunt civilians should manage their expectations, LOL.
...Girls I'm barebacking get tested and I will help if they are not. Getting tested free.You ass fucked bare backed a Villa Mimosa girl recently, I take it you examined her test results.
Vagabundo1
05-27-21, 15:29
Yep. She's a pharma student, and she gets tested regularly. I have copies.
You ass fucked bare backed a Villa Mimosa girl recently, I take it you examined her test results.
Vagabundo1
05-27-21, 15:54
If you're the average tourist who stays in Copa, you owe it to yourself to take an uber to Olegario maciel 135.
This is Raval.
It is a bar which has hookah.
Across the street are several bars, including bar do adao, which is famous for a certain kind of crepe.
Next to bar do adao, is a little bar on an open air design. Here is where the best barravipsrio girls stay all night, smoking little has&h cigarettes with their dates or friends. It is as close to a upscale VM as you will find. It is an upscale Mabs. It is better than Mabs because it is really the hottest, best, prettiest women in Rio, as good or better than Leblon, which is the other real upscale girl area -- the little street with Boteca Belmonte.
IMHO, Copa is shit, merda, trash for tourists. If you want to swim in shit water from your toilet, the toilet which is 500 years of guanabara bay, then go to copa and swim. You won't die, but you will come out with a thin or a thick layer of shit depending on whether it is warmer or colder. If you want to swim in clear Atlantic ocean salt water which is healthy, then go to Olegario Maciel 135, and swim there. The water is superb, the scenery is the best in Rio in terms of the bunda. Down the street at Av Pepe 400 is the "yellow house" as the locals call it, IE, Perola Negra, the boate / terma which has the same talent as 4 x4, literally the same girls, I can quote for you two or more of the exact same girls.
Olegario Maciel is the uber local the Miami beach of Rio.
I feel like I have become the advocate for Barra, but in fact it was Safado 69 who first mentioned Transamerica, I only followed.
So there is my modest proposal. Save this address: Olegario maciel 135. The closest love motel is Motel Dunas. Look it up on the guiademoteis site. Transamerica is at Av Gastao Senges 395.
Paris Cafe is good too, it is down Av Americas at about Posto 9 or 10, but it is just a honky tonk bar in the middle of a big ass freeway.
The intelligencia, the powerful like Bolsonaro and his milicia family members and the rumored contendors to run against him like Huck, and the MMA top tier families who are the true royalty of Brazil mentioned by the Mark Twain of America, Joe Rogan, live in Barra or Recreio.
When you are at Olegario Maciel, if you want a top tier, best in world prepared meal, then go to Na Brasa Colombia, the restaurant on your right as you walk towards the ocean on Olegario heading towards the Atlantic. It has an open air seating area where you can watch the girls -- the real girls, the pros and non pros -- stroll along the strand being Brazilians. The best fish dish there is Filet de Peixe Bel Munier. Order it with the sala palmito. Request the steamed potatoes be deleted and switched instead with batata Portuguese (potato chip style). I like Limonade Suisse, a jarra with it, sem acucar, a few cups with ice for friends.
It a fine way to spend days between networking for skin at Raval or the yellow house or Transamerica.
Olegario by the way is within walking distance of Metro Jardim Oceanico, and the bus 309 goes up and down Olegario until late at night, perhaps 24 hours.
In our line of work professionals study logistics. Your talent, a young 19 year old from Campo Grande will get to Central on the supervia. The counterpart vendor of cheap electronics and such will also come to central on the same supervia or bus to central. By central, I mean central station on the metro, and central station on the supervia light rail, and central the bus station. There the beach vendor will buy his electronics for 30 reais which he will try to sell for 60 on the beach in copa or barra, or he will buy the neoprene masks for 1. 5 reais that he will try to sell for 5 reais. There your top pick girl in the terma will either walk to 4 x4, or maybe take the new light rail to 4 x 4, or she will walk to the secret terma or terma 31. She may also, now with the metro stops in barra, take the metro to metro jardim oceanico. There she can walk to perola negra, and she will walk down Olegario maciel. She will want to stop at raval or the bar across the street to smoke hash*h cigarellos with her energy drinks if she can figure out how to get some idiot. I mean gringo client -- to pay her 500 for an hour of sex work, which is the monthly rent on a casa in bangu or campo grande. When she is done faking orgasms with you, dear reader, she will fuck a motoboy.
Now, I've never rented or driven a car in Rio, but from the way I've witnessed Cariocas drive (over the years), its pretty damn scary. I think in recent years the respect for traffic ordinances has improved, but past years (2015 to 2000) and before, driving often appeared like a video game at times. Driving in Rio can be very treacherous and difficult, unless you've spent some time and have a good "lay of the land".
Now I've driven in smaller states / cities like Ceara, Fortaleza, Aracati, Canoa Quebrada and (within) Buzios and found that highway, freeway and city driving to be decent, and far enough, away from the bat-shit crazy Rio driving that I've seen, where I felt comfortable enough to get by without incident. But lots of white knuckle moments none the less.
Although, once in Buzios I could see renting a car / buggy to get around, (which I would highly recommend, if you have the time). Also, bicycling around Buzios, is said to be a great experience, with lots of terrific mountain bike trails.
Personally, I'm just not yet (nor I'm I sure I'll ever be) gutsy enough to drive in Rio. I think, Rio has enough decent inexpensive and less risky travel options (like driving at night), that should suffice for most travelers.
But perhaps, it is a more viable option, to drive in Rio today, than in the past?
Exec Talent
05-27-21, 22:19
You ass fucked bare backed a Villa Mimosa girl recently, I take it you examined her test results.How else are you going to go ATM? With a condom? That is plain nasty!
Jazzy Daddy
05-28-21, 03:52
I've rented cars and driven them in Rio without issues, except in 2015 while returning from a wild night at a club in Duque de Caxias (girlfriend in tow) and got caught in a DWI sting in Copa. So just don't drive buzzed on alcohol and it will be fine. I plan on renting a car while I am in Rio as I arrive Monday.
Explorer8939
05-28-21, 04:12
It's about the time of year when the weather in Rio begins to deteriorate. Does this have any impact on mongering? I've never been in Rio during its winter.
For example, I was thinking about renting an Air BnB in Transamerica, but if it's too cold, the ladies might not be going to the pool much.
Now, I've never rented or driven a car in Rio, but from the way I've witnessed Cariocas drive (over the years), its pretty damn scary. I think in recent years the respect for traffic ordinances has improved, but past years (2015 to 2000) and before, driving often appeared like a video game at times. Driving in Rio can be very treacherous and difficult, unless you've spent some time and have a good "lay of the land".
Now I've driven in smaller states / cities like Ceara, Fortaleza, Aracati, Canoa Quebrada and (within) Buzios and found that highway, freeway and city driving to be decent, and far enough, away from the bat-shit crazy Rio driving that I've seen, where I felt comfortable enough to get by without incident. But lots of white knuckle moments none the less.
Although, once in Buzios I could see renting a car / buggy to get around, (which I would highly recommend, if you have the time). Also, bicycling around Buzios, is said to be a great experience, with lots of terrific mountain bike trails.
Personally, I'm just not yet (nor I'm I sure I'll ever be) gutsy enough to drive in Rio. I think, Rio has enough decent inexpensive and less risky travel options (like driving at night), that should suffice for most travelers.
But perhaps, it is a more viable option, to drive in Rio today, than in the past?Driving a buggy in Buzios is a lot of fun for those who don't mind stick. Unlike Rio, people don't drive like lunatics probably due to enormous and scary looking speedbumps everywhere. But buggies can only be used within the city limits, so can't drive to Cabo Frio or elsewhere.
Vagabundo1
05-28-21, 05:28
There's more demand for your dinheiro so you actually get higher quality girls in low end termas like t31 and 116, not to mention 4*4 or perola negra.
The sunny days are just as good but with less riff raff the pool is less. Crowded for parties of a few. Bring good speakers.
I love this time of year.
I hate gringos even though I am one haha.
It's about the time of year when the weather in Rio begins to deteriorate. Does this have any impact on mongering? I've never been in Rio during its winter.
For example, I was thinking about renting an Air BnB in Transamerica, but if it's too cold, the ladies might not be going to the pool much.
TiaVoyage25
05-28-21, 07:12
First, thanks to the likes of Wyatt, Xpartan, VB, and others who posted / PM'd me in response to my upcoming trip plan. Second, I apologize for the delayed "thank you" as I had a significant family event pop up this week that distracted me from planning and the likes.
Salt to the wound is that my trip will now likely be shortened from 40 days to roughly 30 or so due to a friend's pseudo-shotgun wedding in early July. The fact that this dude has the audacity to ask me to be a groomsman for a wedding on a holiday weekend with 5 week's notice is endearing at best and selfish at worst, but what can you do. On the bright side, due to unrelated events, my budget for the trip increased slightly so I'm looking at more like $8500 for 30 days now. Heading out late next week and starting with a week in Copa at a hotel.
As per senior members' rec, probably won't waste time going back and forth between Ipanema and Copa. As per my previous post, I'll be looking for those big booty brancas! Will shift over to SP at some point (return flight is out of there) but only after I've experienced "enough" of Rio, if one can do such a thing.
From my army days I learned that an 80% plan executed with aggressiveness is better than a 100% plan that comes too late. Though logistics is not my background, I agree with VB that it is the most critical part of all sustained operations. That being said, I think I have most of it figured out for now (cue: damn millennials think they know it all / full of piss and vinegar) so I plan to hit the ground running and learn what I can along the way.
As always feel free to reach out in the PMs if you want to meet up for a drink or drop any personalized tips. Trip reports will start flowing in around June 7th give or take a day or two.
I'm having a great time this season in Rio, it's going to be in the mid 80's today so warm enough for the beach or pool. But the beaches are much more crowded in summer. Unfortunately though the days are shorter and depending upon where you can lose the sun early from a blocking building or mountain. Another thing I've noticed is that the traffic is very light now for some reason, seems very tame.
I finally had success getting a barra vip girl over, branca, blond, tall but her pictures were great but face covered. When she got here didn't look like the same girl but still nice, great oral skills, sloppy BBBJ, was all good the escort scene has changed a little in past few years now they all want you to come to their place and if they have to come to you they want to charge extra, one girl wanted 200 reais extra, I told her to forget it, lazy biotches.
After the barra girl left I was all fired up and went over to mabs, I immediately got accosted by some girls to come sit down and I did because what was sitting there was this little doll. Tiny, medium color, long straight black hair and glasses, she'd never be a playboy bunny but was exactly what I was looking for. She came over, had great sloppy BBBJ skills too 300 reais for the session. The next night I was eating dinner and was going to take the night off and she texted me, I told her to come over, I've never had someone make love to me this way even all my wives LOL. The things she was saying to me were so sweet and real I almost believed it all. Reminds me of the movie the mechanic with Charles Bronson when he goes to see a working girl and after it was over he said to her oh that letter you wrote for me was a nice touch and he gave her extra for it.
Wednesday night I happen to mozy on over to dolce vita and at the front door were 2 tall young very pretty girls. I went up to the club got a drink and hung in the corner to check the place out, on the perimeter and the back they have all tables, lots of people sitting there drinking with bottles on the table must cost a fortune because the place ain't cheap. So as I'm looking around one of those 2 tall young pretty girls was standing close to me. I had to talk to her even I wasn't sure I was going to take a girl but she was so sweet and willing to please, we were DFK sitting in a corner, she had me, went upstairs naked on the balcony, finished in bed. On Friday she texted me several times looking to go out or hang out, said she loved being with me and wants to do it again, oh yeah am I so great you'll do it for free? LOL. But these are good skills all escorts should have not only in bed but to make you think she loves being with you, that's how they get repeat business, the one who comes in and gives you a wham bam and thank you, never gets called back. It was like these girls had me so convinced that I couldn't believe they were leaving LOL even though I wanted them to.
Just another check on the barra vip website, 31 girls were in Barra and 39 in zona sul. Again all 31 couldnt live in the transamerica maybe 20 do now, be careful planning a vacation around these 20 girls thinking youre staying at fantasy island and the pool is filled with the most beautiful Brazilian gdps youve ever seen.
Member #4698
05-28-21, 14:09
Hi Rio Bob,
I liked your Mabs & Dolce Vita report. Mabs has been on my to do list for some time and I will now add Dolce Vita to that list. It was a shame that all the bars and Termas were closed for 4/5 or the 5 weeks I was in Brazil recently.
As to the BarraVIP's call girls: yes, they live all over the place. I had girls from Copa & Barra mainly. I always ruled out girls who obscured their faces on their profile pages. I don't care why some girls do this and I understand a video call can rectify the issue, but it's just not worth bothering with IMHO.
P.S. I loved a few of my BarraVIP's girls. They changed my mind about escorts.
Member #4729
05-28-21, 14:26
Tiny, medium color, long straight black hair and glasses, she'd never be a playboy bunny but was exactly what I was looking for. She came over, had great sloppy BBBJ skills too 300 reais for the session. The next night I was eating dinner and was going to take the night off and she texted me, I told her to come over, I've never had someone make love to me this way even all my wives LOL. The things she was saying to me were so sweet and real I almost believed it all.
On Friday she texted me several times looking to go out or hang out, said she loved being with me and wants to do it again, oh yeah am I so great you'll do it for free? LOL. But these are good skills all escorts should have not only in bed but to make you think she loves being with you, that's how they get repeat business, the one who comes in and gives you a wham bam and thank you, never gets called back. It was like these girls had me so convinced that I couldn't believe they were leaving LOL even though I wanted them to.I'm fairly sure I sampled this same garota a couple times the week previous. She said she was visiting her son soon and so working a lot to save money. Not sure I've met a more seemingly happy WG, if you look at her IG, it's all smiles and running around living her best life, flashing that winning smile. As mentioned, during sessions, she's very affectionate, etc. The thing is I don't necessarily think its an act- she just loves male attention and reciprocating in the moment. But as you say, see it for what it is; I came down to Mab's a night after two night stint with her and there she is working the crowd, you know its the deal but it still kind of throws you. You made me realize one thing- from here on out I'm not going to be using even the fake names these girls give because there are bound to be crossed streams among hobbyists and things could get unpleasant if somebody catches feelings etc. With this one, there are services she does not offer that I require, so I'm not going to be sampling again.
But these are good skills all escorts should have not only in bed but to make you think she loves being with you, that's how they get repeat business, ......... It was like these girls had me so convinced that I couldn't believe they were leaving LOL even though I wanted them to.They're Brazil's Brand Ambassadors I tell you.
Yep. She's a pharma student, and she gets tested regularly. I have copies.A pharma student in Villa Mimosa, I must get my ass there next time I visit Rio. I had wrong notions about the place.
Member #4729
05-28-21, 15:28
Zebra checking in typing this from my comfortable new Airbnb around the corner from Pestana Hotel, lots to update.
Note: from here on I'm not going to be using even the "stage" names provided by the garotas and will instead, in the manner of Vagabundo 1 and others, be re-christening them with my own names. Rio Bob's recent post made me realize that mongers are going to be in several "Eskimo Clubs" together and if feelings get caught about a garota, things could get stupid. In that manner the WG previously mentioned in a theoretical trip to Buzios will now be known as "Lucrezia".
Following the sage advice and deep wisdom of the senior posters here, said Buzios trip was downgraded to a day trip to Grumari- I found a hip little beach club called "Classico Beach Club" and proposed this to Lucrezia, who was more than happy with the new concept. She asks if she can come over to spend the night the day before so we can head off early and I oblige.
That night she is a bit late to arrive (surprise), but in the elevator begins immediately to make up for it by grabbing the cock through the shorts etc. Up in the new pad, I quickly steer her over to the couch and strip off her clothes whereupon she gives me another BBBJ with deep throat and finish in her mouth. This girl does it just right. Later we order Uber Eats from a Japanese restaurant and then she curls up next to me and falls asleep.
I wake up to her grabbing my cock and so I oblige putting on the camisinha and do some deep dick early morning fucking. This girl looks so good getting railed missionary, pity no raw intercourse. We both take a shower and get ready for the trip after some Café a Manha. After her shower she is putting on her clothes but I grab her little panties and push them down, throw her against the couch and suck on that fresh pussy for 15 minutes while she gently groans and squirms. Let me describe Lucrezia again- she is 21 anos, nubile, 45 kgs (99 lbs), roughly 5 feet, huge doe-eyes, big DSL lips, beautiful olive skin. She looks very young but-keep this in mind-I don't think she could be mistaken for under-age.
I call an uber (roughly $9 USD), and we are off to Grumani which should be an hour away. Things are going well on the drive, but traffic slows to a crawl before the entrance to the tunnel that leads to Sao Conrado, but its all good. In the stalled traffic, I see a motorcycle police making his way among the cars and he drives up next to Lucrezia's window and stares in at the both of us. With her mask on she looks very young and although again- I'm fit and relatively good looking- clearly the relationship is of a professional sort. He makes the decision to pull us over and question us.
We are now all out of the uber on the side of the road being interrogated and with our belongings on the hood searched. Luckily I have a laminated copy of my passport and clearly there is nothing illegal in my possessions or in Lucrezia's. She does not, however, have an ID, only a photo of some sort of certificate on her phone. Now with her mask off, it should be clear to anyone that she is of age, but I'm guessing that what they are trying to do is to find any unpaid fines or tickets on her part and to get me to pay them on the spot. All the while, cars are going by watching this whole scene.
An officer calls in her info and we wait a few minutes- sure enough no tickets and they let us go without saying anything really, not even- "have good day". They just sort of lose interest and begin talking to them-selves. Luckily the Uber driver is taking it in stride, and we jump back in and head off again. Lucrezia is silent and withdrawn for 30 minute or so, but her mood soon improves and the whole thing is quickly forgotten.
We arrive at the Classico Beach Club and rent a cabana for the day. Lucrezia quickly changes into her bikini, and is ecstatic with the situation, snapping countless photo of her posing in the luxurious and beautiful setting holding a mixed drink, "living her best life". I don't mind so much playing photographer and am having great fun as well. All great content for her Instagram, which I am not allowed to follow because its "only for her friends". Ha. We spend the majority of the day relaxing on the cabana, drinking cocktails, eating shrimp, which she feeds to me like some sort of decadent Roman patrician. Lucrezia is happy, affectionate and providing just about as good GFE that is possible- I think at the least she does not find Zebra at all objectionable, and at best has a degree of real affection, desire and respect for me. The truth, although unknowable- probably hangs in the balance between. All I know is that it's not a huge price to pay to lounge around with this stunning hottie giving me all her attention in this beautiful setting. I really believe if she was taller she could be a model. She asks me several times to pronounce "happy" and "happiest" in English because that's what she's posting on her insta. Great experience.
As the shadows grow long, we head down to explore the very cool maze of giant boulders that god has littered on the Grumari beach and have great fun photographing her in sexy bunda poses against this compelling backdrop. It truly was a high point.
Heading towards the adjacent beach, some guy walks by with a giant schlong hanging out, and I'm like "ok". A few steps away a naked dude that looks German is pissing against a boulder in full sight of the world, piss stream arcing gracefully from his Germanic cock, catching the light with a visible steam rising. Further on, we can see the beach gives way to a nudist beach / bar or colony and Lucrezia decides it not her thing so we head back.
We hang out some more and settle the bill (it was not cheap). Half way through they remembered the Cabana came with a bottle of champagne but at that point I was so blitzed off of mojitos I declined it. Not sure if this made its way to the bill- and I decided I just didn't care to fight that battle and sucked it up. If I go again I will do more research as far as what is included in the cabana package.
As the sun sets, we get another uber- this time with a very good natured tri-lingual gay Chilean student. Lucrezia goes on some drunken rant in Portuguese about Chinese and Japanese technological superiority or some other such thing- I'm guessing she has some Asian clients and has absorbed a bit of global economics. This is not a stupid girl, and its refreshing to hear her speak intelligently, although I can only get bits and pieces, Ultimately she falls asleep with her head in my lap and I end up chatting with the Chilean for a good bit until we get home.
At home, Lucrezia asks me if I want her to spend the night again, and I decline, and so she gives me an obligatory BJ, I pay up, and she's out the door. She wants me to message her today for another pernoite.
I'm in a position with this garota that I'm not necessarily catching feelings- I know what the deal is- but this seems like its going to be habitual. I know she's going to be riding clients all day before coming to see me at night- I suppose if that's ever something I can't handle I will need to cut it off. For the moment it seems fine, but a downside here is that my curiosity to explore further has become muted.
All in all, a great day. The world has a negative picture of working girls, but some have a unique gift for living in the moment and instinctually know how to give a man a pleasurable experience that many could be missing in their own relationship / life. This is a valuable service / commodity. I wonder if they mitigate their own tendency to catch feelings through promiscuity, similar to how I think men do. They are clearly wired differently from your average woman, who has much more of an instinct to exclusivity, although I'm sure if I ever walked back into Lucrezia's terma, she would go ballistic if I chose another girl.
Vagabundo1
05-28-21, 16:06
I had a mini relationship going with her in 2020 so we know each other well.
I was looking through some pictures.
But I am reluctant to post them because of some of the issues discussed in the great novel Shantaram.
She is the girl I called Midori for her resemblance. I'm sure when you go to VM, you can find a nice negra bunda that resembles a 22 year old Midori.
A pharma student in Villa Mimosa, I must get my ass there next time I visit Rio. I had wrong notions about the place.
Vagabundo1
05-28-21, 16:07
I had a mini relationship going with her in 2020 so we know each other well.
I was looking through some pictures.
But I am reluctant to post them because of some of the issues discussed in the great novel Shantaram.
She is the girl I called Midori for her resemblance. I'm sure when you go to VM, you can find a nice negra bunda that resembles a 22 year old Midori.
She kept bugging me about wanting me to pay for her breast augmentation surgery.
I kept saying next month.
When it finally came down to October, I pulled a Paul Simon and "found a new plan, Stan / slipped out the back, Jack / and set myself free."
A pharma student in Villa Mimosa, I must get my ass there next time I visit Rio. I had wrong notions about the place.
Further on, we can see the beach gives way to a nudist beach / bar or colony and Lucrezia decides it not her thing so we head back.Praia do Abricó.
Thanks, for fun reports.
I'm in a position with this garota that I'm not necessarily catching feelings- I know what the deal is- but this seems like its going to be habitual. I know she's going to be riding clients all day before coming to see me at night- I suppose if that's ever something I can't handle I will need to cut it off. For the moment it seems fine, but a downside here is that my curiosity to explore further has become muted.
All in all, a great day. The world has a negative picture of working girls, but some have a unique gift for living in the moment and instinctually know how to give a man a pleasurable experience that many could be missing in their own relationship / life. This is a valuable service / commodity. I wonder if they mitigate their own tendency to catch feelings through promiscuity, similar to how I think men do. They are clearly wired differently from your average woman, who has much more of an instinct to exclusivity, although I'm sure if I ever walked back into Lucrezia's terma, she would go ballistic if I chose another girl.ZebraStripes,
Great report! You will know when you want to go on the prowl looking for new prey. Those special connections with a garota are not automatically easy to recreate. So enjoy it. Take a day or two off if you desire. She will understand. When you do call, Lucrezia would much rather hang out and fuck someone she is comfortable with.
And yes, she would go ballistic if you chose another girl (at her establishment). However, she knows what you do on the days you are not hanging out with her. What you said about exclusivity (monogamy) made me think about this concept in much of the world. Women in much of the world don't always expect exclusivity, but if it is discreet, not thrown in their face and not a threat, they will accept it. This is obviously not true with all women.
Vagabundo1
05-28-21, 20:27
Senor Cane.
I appreciate your input and many pictures. But I would submit that we are rehashing the same conversation.
Maybe it is my fault. Like all men who pay women for sex I have a dominant personality as do you. I apologize to you and for that matter anyone else I've offended.
That said may I suggest you ignore my posts as I do yours, in the interest of not rehashing what most readers probably see as trash.
Very respectfully.
But the overall type of experience and scene isn't. Staying way the hell out in Barra. Hitting only mostly prives in centro when going out. Far away from the main action and no termas with the kind of social interaction and mingling with the girls that I like. I'm not interested in taking a "Spartan" vacation to any place really. I don't want to and I don't have to. Not my idea of a good time.
Steve 9696
05-28-21, 21:15
Thanks Z for the great report. I love reading life experiences like that. Even the cop stop is priceless stuff you will remember forever as long as it turns out OK. She sounds like a real gem. I got to admit I need to catch feelings a bit to have a proper experience. Yes I might fuck 50 girls but only a couple really slay me and I catch feelings. But damn if that doesn't just make it better. Yes it hurts more in the end than being a fuck zombie but it's sooo worth it IMO.
And I was just thinking the same as you — why havent more girls caught on to the fact that if you play the girlfriend to the nth degree us guys will be slain and want more and it's more $$ in the end. I recently hit the jackpot with a sugar babe in the US and she was like the best girlfriend you could ever have in bed and out on the town. Even now when I hit her up to maybe fly somewhere she's like "sounds good. Let's do it babe. " Just always a positive vibe and makes you feel like a million bucks.
Ah the good ones make it all worth while.
Heading towards the adjacent beach, some guy walks by with a giant schlong hanging out, and I'm like "ok". A few steps away a naked dude that looks German is pissing against a boulder in full sight of the world, piss stream arcing gracefully from his Germanic cock, catching the light with a visible steam rising. Wow, as they say. Show, don't tell. Great imagery, thank you, LOL!
I'm in a position with this garota that I'm not necessarily catching feelings- I know what the deal is- but this seems like its going to be habitual. I know she's going to be riding clients all day before coming to see me at night- I suppose if that's ever something I can't handle I will need to cut it off. For the moment it seems fine, but a downside here is that my curiosity to explore further has become muted.All that tells me you've found a girl who makes (is making) you happy. So ride with it. I remember one girl in Lima who made me feel this way, so much so that I just didn't want anyone else.
There is nothing wrong with a little monogamy on a mongering trip, IMHO.
Vagabundo1
05-28-21, 21:58
It must have been.
Hi Rio Bob,
I liked your Mabs & Dolce Vita report. Mabs has been on my to do list for some time and I will now add Dolce Vita to that list. It was a shame that all the bars and Termas were closed for 4/5 or the 5 weeks I was in Brazil recently.
As to the BarraVIP's call girls: yes, they live all over the place. I had girls from Copa & Barra mainly. I always ruled out girls who obscured their faces on their profile pages. I don't care why some girls do this and I understand a video call can rectify the issue, but it's just not worth bothering with IMHO.
P.S. I loved a few of my BarraVIP's girls. They changed my mind about escorts.This is one of the girls I met in Dolce Vita.
Exec Talent
05-28-21, 22:04
Thanks Z for the great report. I love reading life experiences like that. Even the cop stop is priceless stuff you will remember forever as long as it turns out OK. She sounds like a real gem. I got to admit I need to catch feelings a bit to have a proper experience. Yes I might fuck 50 girls but only a couple really slay me and I catch feelings. But damn if that doesn't just make it better. Yes it hurts more in the end than being a fuck zombie but it's sooo worth it IMO.
And I was just thinking the same as you why havent more girls caught on to the fact that if you play the girlfriend to the nth degree us guys will be slain and want more and it's more $$ in the end. I recently hit the jackpot with a sugar babe in the US and she was like the best girlfriend you could ever have in bed and out on the town. Even now when I hit her up to maybe fly somewhere she's like "sounds good. Let's do it babe. " Just always a positive vibe and makes you feel like a million bucks.
Ah the good ones make it all worth while.These are the stories I also like to hear because they also say a lot about the storyteller. You made someone feel special, valued and maybe even loved. I have had termas girls surprise me by inviting me to their birthday parties or their homes to meet their families. It is a level of trust that says you are never going to do anything to embarrass me or hurt me. When these girls meet someone with whom they click they talk about him with their family and friends leaving out the money exchanged part. If you do extended stays this leads to we would like to meet him.
Steve, glad you found a special someone in the US. I have had such relationships which lasted for years and which grew to become less and less about sex and money.
Exec Talent
05-28-21, 22:06
This is one of the girls I met in Dolce Vita.Now that is worth that long flight. Rock on Rio Bob!
Senor Cane.
I appreciate your input and many pictures. But I would submit that we are rehashing the same conversation.
Maybe it is my fault. Like all men who pay women for sex I have a dominant personality as do you. I apologize to you and for that matter anyone else I've offended.
That said may I suggest you ignore my posts as I do yours, in the interest of not rehashing what most readers probably see as trash.
Very respectfully.What are you talking about? I wasn't offended by your post. But it appears that maybe you were by mine. You say that you ignore my posts, but then you commented on the pictures I post, and you obviously didn't ignore my post which prompted your above response to it. Look, if you or anybody else makes a post expressing a particular point of view, other people have the right to express their own alternative views on the same matter (s). And as long as that's done respectfully, there is no need for anybody to feel offended.
You push staying in Barra, and I don't, especially for newbies and people on short visits. You go to Vila Mimosa and I don't as I find it to be very unappealing. You seek out lots of negras, and I prefer the brancas and morenas. And on and on. You get to state what you like and offer your own advice, but then so does everyone else here. And just because that may be something different from what you like or suggest is no reason to get annoyed with others, or state that you don't read their posts, and that the conversation is "trash".
I believe to the contrary. The more information, viewpoints, and data that people have, the better the decisions they can make for themselves based on their own individual likes or dislikes. Your response reminds me of people who get mad if you challenge them when they say things like the clinica girls in Sao Paulo look just as good as the Scandallo or Bomboa girls, or that it's the same girls who work in both types of establishments, etc. All of us here need to know how to share this space. That means that if you state opinions in a diverse public forum that don't square with somebody else's, then you need to be prepared to receive alternative views without getting annoyed at people who think differently about it than you do.
Respectfully,
The Cane.
Keep on reporting, Senhor Vagabundo.
Don't worry about "os chatos velhos", do as I've done long ago, press the ignore button.
Driving a buggy in Buzios is a lot of fun for those who don't mind stick. Unlike Rio, people don't drive like lunatics probably due to enormous and scary looking speedbumps everywhere. But buggies can only be used within the city limits, so can't drive to Cabo Frio or elsewhere.Buggies rides in Buzios, yep, some good times. Driving stick is all part of the fun.
I've rented cars and driven them in Rio without issues, except in 2015 while returning from a wild night at a club in Duque de Caxias (girlfriend in tow) and got caught in a DWI sting in Copa. So just don't drive buzzed on alcohol and it will be fine. I plan on renting a car while I am in Rio as I arrive Monday.Glad to see a courageous soul, tackling Rio driving. Gives me hope.
One thing I couldn't get pass and always thought it was so funny, is how Brazilians tended to park their vehicles like, the caveman, Freddy Flintstones. There was never a spot too small they couldn't get into. Just a little tap on this bumper, to make space and then another little tap on this bumper...kkkk.
Vagabundo1
05-29-21, 00:54
Good report, thanks.
I was stopped coming from centro to barra twice with a girl on Tuesday in a similar way.
Violence is likely to rise for the simple fact that people are starving (see below).
I may be wrong about Bolsonaro. It wouldn't be the first time.
Pray for war! Love in a time of Cholera! Years of living dangerously!
https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2021/05/29/brazils-president-jair-bolsonaro-is-under-siege
Here are many ways to describe pork-barrel politics in Brazil. They include tomá lá theá seeá (give and take), troca de favores (trading favours), corporativisms (corporatism) and velha política (old politics). In 2018, on the campaign trail, Jair Bolsonaro used these and far ruder insults to disparage his fellow politicians, especially ones from the left-wing Workers' Party (pt), which governed from 2003 to 2016 and was roiled by two big corruption scandals. As president, he vowed to advance his agenda without distributing cargos (jobs) or emendas (amendments: ie, pork).
The first sign he had given up on this "new politics" came in mid-2020, when he formed an alliance with a bloc of self-serving parties known as the centrão (big centre) in order to shield himself from impeachment petitions, of which there are now 117. Centrão support is never free. A recent investigation by Estado de S. Paulo, a newspaper, showed that last year Mr Bolsonaro's government forked over 20 bn reais ($3. 9 bn) through emendas do relator, or "chairman's pork", a reference to the chairman of the budget committee. At least 3 bn reais were funneled through the development ministry to congressmen to fund public works and purchase farm equipment at inflated prices, sometimes through companies owned by relatives.
The scandal, which the press has dubbed tratoraço (roughly, "tractor-gate" is the clearest proof yet of Mr Bolsonaro's participation in pork-barrel politics. It is unfolding alongside an even bigger public-relations disaster: a parliamentary commission of inquiry (cpi) into the government's handling of the pandemic. The two crises demonstrate how Mr Bolsonaro has become increasingly weak and how Congress, which is known for virus-like opportunism, has used his vulnerability to strengthen itself. "The more fragile the president, the higher the cost of support," explains Sylvio Costa of Congresso them Foco, a watchdog site.
Brazil's political system, known as "coalition presidentialism", is a hybrid between the presidential model of the United States and European-style parliamentary government. The president directs policymaking and drafts the budget but cannot get much done without Congress, where his or her party rarely has a majority. Most of Brazil's 30 or so political parties lack ideological platforms; they back presidents in exchange for patronage. This favours vote-winning projects like paving roads or painting schools, rather than long-term planning, says Élida Pinto, a professor of public finances at Fundação Getulio Vargas (fgv), a university.
In 1994 six congressmen lost their posts as a result of a vote-buying scandal involving fake ngos. In 2005 a centrão lawmaker admitted that the pt was funneling 30,000 reais per month to congressmen in exchange for legislative support. (he was kicked out of Congress but is now an ally of Mr Bolsonaro.) In 2014 prosecutors launched a probe called Lava Jato ("Car Wash") which revealed a vast kickback scheme among construction firms, political parties and the state oil firm.
In response to protests, Congress passed a series of constitutional amendments aimed at reducing corruption while keeping congressmen sweet. Most emendas became in effect an automatic allowance (not at the president's discretion) for lawmakers to spend in their constituencies. They had to follow new rules, such as providing receipts. But such restrictions made it harder for presidents to cobble together a coalition. When Dilma Rousseff, a pt president, was impeached in 2016, it was technically because she had hidden the size of Brazil's budget deficit; but also because she struggled to manage an increasingly unruly Congress. She expanded her cabinet to 39 ministries in order to dole out patronage, but a recession in 2014-16 limited her scope.
Mr Bolsonaro is experiencing something similar. Brazil has had one of the worst covid-19 outbreaks in the world, with an official death count of more than 450,000. His strategy of downplaying the pandemic seemed to work last year, when a third of Brazilians received emergency aid. But this year a second wave has coincided with rising inflation, slow vaccination and a reduction in handouts. Mr Bolsonaro's approval rating has fallen from 40% to below 30%. The speaker of the lower house, Arthur Lira, the only person who can open impeachment proceedings, warned of "bitter political remedies".
But impeachment is unlikely, partly because Mr Bolsonaro in effect reinvented chairman's pork at the end of 2019. Most of the new allowances went to lawmakers who voted for Mr Lira and the centrão's pick to head the Senate, Rodrigo Pacheco, in leadership elections in February. Documents on government sites account for only around 1 bn of the 3 bn reais spent by the development ministry. The budget chairman, Domingos Neto, sent 110 m reais to a city of 59,000 people of which his mother is the mayor. The ministry agreed to pay 500,000 reais apiece for tractors listed as costing 200,000. It insists that there were no irregularities.
A bigger threat to Mr Bolsonaro's popularity is the cpi, which began hearing testimony in the Senate this month. Its daily sessions are broadcast live on tv, creating a macabre oral history of Brazil's pandemic disaster. Two former health ministers said that the government's initial strategy rested on herd immunity and hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial drug promoted by Donald Trump. A Pfizer executive said that the government ignored six offers to sell Brazil vaccines. The health minister at the time, Eduardo Pazuello, a general who was also in charge when the city of Manaus ran out of oxygen, tried to skip testifying by saying he might have covid-19 himself.
Mr Bolsonaro "is becoming a prisoner of his unpopularity", says Alessandro Molon, the leader of the opposition in the lower house. The latest polls show the president's support falling in nearly every constituency, including among his strongest backers, such as evangelical Christians. His top rival in the 2022 election is likely to be Luiz Inácio Lula the Silva, a former pt president whose popularity has recently increased. One poll suggests that if a runoff election were held tomorrow, 55% would pick him against just 32% for Mr Bolsonaro (the rest said neither). When Brazilians see Europeans and Americans getting vaccinated, they realise "our president is a caricature," says Ciro Gomes, a former governor who also plans to run.
Mr Bolsonaro could recover before next year's election. Vaccination is at last progressing and the economy is doing better than feared. The economy minister, Paulo Guedes, has urged Congress to reform taxes and the public sector. This would free up money for vote-winning programmes, he argues. But lawmakers want handouts too. "The centrão is not loyal," warns Rebeca Lucena of bmj, a consultancy. "If the ship is sinking, it will jump to another."
An officer calls in her info and we wait a few minutes- sure enough no tickets and they let us go without saying anything really, not even- "have good day". They just sort of lose interest and begin talking to them-selves. Luckily the Uber driver is taking it in stride, and we jump back in and head off again. Lucrezia is silent and withdrawn for 30 minute or so, but her mood soon improves and the whole thing is quickly forgotten.
Pahllus Maximus
05-29-21, 06:31
Thanks to Vagabundo1 essay on the political economy and the usual politician corruption that is universal. And Zebrastripes, his graphic adventures I can enjoy vicariously from sex prison USA. What a wonderful thing, beautiful young woman, daily BJs, morning mish, sunset on the beach, that is truly living the dream. As to catching feelings, a more complex issue, but oxytocin and other hormones trying to trick you into creating a nest and babies, something strongly reinforced by most societies and religions to generate units of labor, taxation and consumption. Women, lord bless them, are specifically programmed and designed to make babies and find a male provider, and are reminded on this every 30 days. It's just how we are. Life is all about reproduction at it its irreducible core.
We mongers take the best ripe fruit and leave the the tree and everything else besides. Whatever the theory, Zebrastripes is living the dream and a excellent return on $ investment in joy and memories. You will no find that on any ETF. Good for you!
Barra sounds cool, all the facilities of girls and termas without the feral elements of sewer infested beach etc of Copa. I cannot wait for a few days in Copa for relief, then a seaside town, BJ for waking up, catch up on some reading, bit of work and more fun after lunch, massage and maybe a sleepy time BJ.
It must have been.No more Vasco shirts, Flamengo instead? Mengo!
Vagabundo1
05-29-21, 14:10
She's flamengo.
And that's a jeweled buttplug I put between her fingers. Alas I wonder why it didn't last kkk.
No more Vasco shirts, Flamengo instead? Mengo!
Vagabundo1
05-29-21, 14:12
Not offended, just bored.
What are you talking about? I wasn't offended by your post. But it appears that maybe you were by mine. You say that you ignore my posts, but then you commented on the pictures I post, and you obviously didn't ignore my post which prompted your above response to it. Look, if you or anybody else makes a post expressing a particular point of view, other people have the right to express their own alternative views on the same matter (s). And as long as that's done respectfully, there is no need for anybody to feel offended.
You push staying in Barra, and I don't, especially for newbies and people on short visits. You go to Vila Mimosa and I don't as I find it to be very unappealing. You seek out lots of negras, and I prefer the brancas and morenas. And on and on. You get to state what you like and offer your own advice, but then so does everyone else here. And just because that may be something different from what you like or suggest is no reason to get annoyed with others, or state that you don't read their posts, and that the conversation is "trash".
I believe to the contrary. The more information, viewpoints, and data that people have, the better the decisions they can make for themselves based on their own individual likes or dislikes..
What are you talking about? I wasn't offended by your post. But it appears that maybe you were by mine. You say that you ignore my posts, but then you commented on the pictures I post, and you obviously didn't ignore my post which prompted your above response to it. Look, if you or anybody else makes a post expressing a particular point of view, other people have the right to express their own alternative views on the same matter (s). And as long as that's done respectfully, there is no need for anybody to feel offended.
You push staying in Barra, and I don't, especially for newbies and people on short visits. You go to Vila Mimosa and I don't as I find it to be very unappealing. You seek out lots of negras, and I prefer the brancas and morenas. And on and on. You get to state what you like and offer your own advice, but then so does everyone else here. And just because that may be something different from what you like or suggest is no reason to get annoyed with others, or state that you don't read their posts, and that the conversation is "trash".
I believe to the contrary. The more information, viewpoints, and data that people have, the better the decisions they can make for themselves based on their own individual likes or dislikes. Your response reminds me of people who get mad if you challenge them when they say things like the clinica girls in Sao Paulo look just as good as the Scandallo or Bomboa girls, or that it's the same girls who work in both types of establishments, etc. All of us here need to know how to share this space. That means that if you state opinions in a diverse public forum that don't square with somebody else's, then you need to be prepared to receive alternative views without getting annoyed at people who think differently about it than you do.
Respectfully,
The Cane.Extremely well put. Thank you!!
I have observed in many threads in ISG of guys getting offended if a poster has a different view from them. I prefer brancas to negras, why should a poster be offended because of that? I am not offended if someone says they prefer negras to brancas. I am happy for that because while they are doing the negras there are chances of more available brancas for me. I have only done termas in Rio because that is the scene I like just as I prefer FKKs to walk-ups in Frankfurt. Don't get upset because of that. Guys who are getting pussy should not be so thin skinned. You are getting pussy aren't you? If you are constantly attacking other posters it makes one wonder.
Vagabundo1
05-29-21, 15:30
These are all shots of Rihanna Noir, two from Motel Carbonara in Bangu, where I paid 250 for 3 hours one Sunday after hiking.
Two from my room at Transamerica, where FLCNHvy, the Sikh Canadian from UBC, who was paying 1000 for "pernoites" from 4 x 4 that ended at 02 h with a girl with a rash on her ass came up to me and said high yesterday as he's still playing the longer and better cost per fuck game out here.
One from her social which has her nice ass out at Grumari beach where the girls go when they want to actually go to the beach with their real friends. Which one of our more recent contributors took a good day trip with information from this board.
Anaggie from El Paso has supported Senor Cane's adamant pricing of fucking in termas where recall, dear reader, that Senor Anaggie's cost per fuck was roughly 750 per girl over 8 hours in 4 x 4. Genius. Senor Cane posts his collection of prepandemic Luomo brancas, which have all the current intel value of a erotic carving on a roman temple, and advocates that you, dear reader, go only to centaurus or monte carlo terma in Copa from a hotel on Av Atlantico. Go for it.
My view is that the local girls will think you're a chato, a boring gringo, and laugh at you. The local girls laugh at me too, because, at the end of the day, I too, am just a gringo, but they respect me, because I showed up and Motel Carbonara, and put my cock bare into Rihanna Noir's 19 year old vag in the pool, and then bare up her ass. For 100 a fuck -- the all important CPF, the Cost Per Fuck -- not the 700% or 1000% greater price that our terma bound brothers insist is the only way to monger in Rio.
Guys like the Player 2 and 3 who are readers but not posters stay here at Transamerica for months on end and get the better experience. Even one of the more recent posters takes a girl out of MC and takes her to Grumari with good effect.
But, go ahead, make your own choice. My view though and the view of locals is if you just fuck in the termas at their inflated ask price on the bid-ask spread, you are not smart money.
Buggies rides in Buzios, yep, some good times. Driving stick is all part of the fun.Careful renting those in Buzios. Many years ago, I rented one. When I returned it, dude went over it with a fine tooth comb, and wanted me to pay for every scratch. He acted like it was brand New, (it wasn't.) It was similar to the jet sky scams in SEA. So take pics before you drive off. Also parking the damn thing: went with it to a crowded beach, the touts were telling you where to park and taking parking fee. Came back and I had less gas in the tank.
Exec Talent
05-29-21, 16:28
Careful renting those in Buzios. Many years ago, I rented one. When I returned it, dude went over it with a fine tooth comb, and wanted me to pay for every scratch. He acted like it was brand New, (it wasn't.) It was similar to the jet sky scams in SEA. So take pics before you drive off. Also parking the damn thing: went with it to a crowded beach, the touts were telling you where to park and taking parking fee. Came back and I had less gas in the tank.Many of the posts on this forum I value most are not about women. I have rented buggies in Armação dos beúzios and I did not have any issues. Tried to find online the rental company, but no luck. Do remember an image of the sun and that it was a small open office. Parking is indeed an issue as is driving a stick if you are not accustomed. Beúzios has many beaches, so be sure to check out some travel sites. There are many foreign tourists (too many for me on several beaches). Some well-behaved. Others not. McDonald's is always packed because it is the cheapest place to eat. The exchange rate will help, but eating and drinking in beúzios is not cheap. As a getaway destination, it is not my favorite. Ilha Grande and Paraty are more relaxing and not as crowded. Renting a charter in Paraty is worth it even though the captain kept hitting on my girl. Again check the sites. I rented a place from an American / Brazilian couple. They have multiple units a short walk from the downtown.
Buggies rides in Buzios, yep, some good times. Driving stick is all part of the fun.
Glad to see a courageous soul, tackling Rio driving. Gives me hope.Aren't Brasileiras the experts at driving stick?
I would caution anyone renting a car to be extra careful driving on highways outside the cities. Highway fatalities are high. Lots of crazy truckers and cars make some of the heavily traveled intercity thoroughfares (RJ-SP, SP-BH, RJ-BH) more challenging.
Obviously, a fender bender in Rio or SP isn't going to alter your life.
I find I learn more when members have differing opinions and lay out their case. Barra versus Copa might seem redundant to many of us, but it is very helpful to newbies and those you have limited experience in Rio. It helps limits the endless newbie "I'm going to Rio. Where do I stay? Where are the girls?" posts.
Vagabundo has laid out compelling cases for Barra. Having stayed in Copa and Ipanema many times, it's something I would consider if I have more than a week. Of course, many of us know Rio isn't a binary choice of Barra or Copa. Ipanema is a nicer neighborhood and nicer beach. And so on down to Leblon. Then there are the guys who just want to monger day and night who explore staying in Centro. You can't fuck a beach! All good stuff.
I love the SP clinica versus boates debates. I went to clinicas myself and made my own decision. In fact, I hit up some well-reviewed and beautiful SP escorts and got some flak from the clinica crowd. LOL.
Then there is the perpetual Rio versus Sao Paulo debate. We forget this is all what newbies are having to decide.
Exec Talent
05-29-21, 17:00
When someone posts their firsthand experiences, it always helps someone. Vila Mimosa. I went, I saw, I was disgusted. Horse butt and even pony butt girls are not for me. Once I was asked by a girl in Brazil to do a three-some with her friend with a pony butt. In the course of trying to persuade me she says, I know she has a big ass but I think she would give a great blowjob. I still passed.
The point I believe Cane was trying to make, with which I happen to agree and which seems to have gotten lost in the discussion is that Barra the Tijuca is probably not the best place to stay for first time or infrequent visitors to Rio. This would especially be the case if you only have a few days. Staying in Copacabana or Ipanema would be the better option. Staying at a hotel with English speaking front desk staff would also be advised. A termas is going to cost far more than a private apartment experience in Central Rio, but again you have a more supportive environment and English Speakers to help you. Your time will go quickly and you probably will want to see at least the Christ Statue. Next visit, rent an apartment. Next visit stay in Barra the Tijuca. Next visit convince your wife to come along for some threesomes.
Incidentally, on my first trip to Rio I hired a full-time driver and interpreter because I came with the intent of exploring dating not pay-for-play options. For the guy that recently asked about those possibilities, that is the route I would recommend, but clearly it is not for everyone. I stayed at a very upscale hotel and no there never were any bringing guests to my room issues. I think the staff found my comings and goings somewhat entertaining and were extremely gracious and helpful.
TiaVoyage25
05-29-21, 19:29
The first time I went to Colombia I did a similar thing. I stayed in Zona Rose (Bogota) and El Poblado (Medellin). Those are the nicer, more posh areas that are generally pretty safe. As I gained more familiarity with the various cities I started to spread my wings more and stay in different parts. Now when I visit I stay exclusively near Sante Fe in Bogota and a variety of places in Medellin. Some people HATE staying near Sante Fe because it is dirty and perceived to be more dangerous, but if you know the lay of the land then it isn't as big of a deal. There are also some amazing AirBnbs in the area that are dirt cheap due to the location.
I see the comparison here when talking about where to stay in Rio regarding Copa vs. Barra. As this will be my first trip to Brazil, I'll be staying in Copa (to start) in Rio and Moema while in SP. At some point when I gain more comfort with the area I'll likely expand to different areas and then pick a favorite from there. Why start in Copa, one may ask? Well its simply personal preference given the convenience of proximity to what I'll be starting off with. In any case, I won't let my home base limit where I explore.
Once I hit the ground next week I'll gladly give a more detailed assessment to provide other Rio newbies some insight, albeit anecdotal.
When someone posts their firsthand experiences, it always helps someone. Vila Mimosa. I went, I saw, I was disgusted. Horse butt and even pony butt girls are not for me. Once I was asked by a girl in Brazil to do a three-some with her friend with a pony butt. In the course of trying to persuade me she says, I know she has a big ass but I think she would give a great blowjob. I still passed.
The point I believe Cane was trying to make, with which I happen to agree and which seems to have gotten lost in the discussion is that Barra the Tijuca is probably not the best place to stay for first time or infrequent visitors to Rio. This would especially be the case if you only have a few days. Staying in Copacabana or Ipanema would be the better option. Staying at a hotel with English speaking front desk staff would also be advised. A termas is going to cost far more than a private apartment experience in Central Rio, but again you have a more supportive environment and English Speakers to help you. Your time will go quickly and you probably will want to see at least the Christ Statue..
What are you talking about? I wasn't offended by your post. But it appears that maybe you were by mine. You say that you ignore my posts, but then you commented on the pictures I post, and you obviously didn't ignore my post which prompted your above response to it. Look, if you or anybody else makes a post expressing a particular point of view, other people have the right to express their own alternative views on the same matter (s). And as long as that's done respectfully, there is no need for anybody to feel offended. . . .
. . . That means that if you state opinions in a diverse public forum that don't square with somebody else's, then you need to be prepared to receive alternative views without getting annoyed at people who think differently about it than you do.
Respectfully,
The Cane.Respectfully forming opposing views and arguing counterpoints is what makes, many of the conversations on ISG great. If done respectfully it can be very illuminating, interesting and intriguing.
If those BMs who are bored, uninterested or apathetic, feel free "not to comment" or hit that "ignore button", or simply agree to disagree and move on.
And if it's not already apparent, while many BMs here, may agree / disagree on pussy and finding pussy (hence why we primarily post on ISG), note we are vastly different when it comes to our politics.
Aren't Brasileiras the experts at driving stick? kkkk...boy, it took me a while...nice one. I'm definitely slower in my old age.
Good pun, thanks for the chuckle. I'll have to borrow that one, in the future.
Obviously, a fender bender in Rio or SP isn't going to alter your life. No, but the "Freddy Flintstone" style parking, may impact the assessment of scratches and damages, on your rental agreement.
Careful renting those in Buzios . . . So take pics before you drive off. . . . Sage advice for those looking to rent cars, boats, motorcycles, bicycles...etc.
At the very lease one should, take extra care when filling out the existing damages on the top, right and left sides of the "car diagram section" of the rental agreement.
Fortunately, the buggy was a friend of mine, that was used while I visited in Buzios.
Just messaged a few barravips girls that I liked to see what the rates are. All of them quoted 500 R / HR for incall, and 600-700 R + uber for outcall, like they are in a fucking union. And anywhere from 2000 R to 5000 R pernoite. I stood firm on my price (500 R pernoite, which I consider a great offer) and all of them wouldn't budge. One of them literally said 'go fuck yourself if you can't afford it")))) No way I'm paying a gringo price. I guess they are not that desperate and have enough clients who pay that much. Who are these suckers? Weekend warriors? I bet locals pay a fraction of what they quote. I'm not that desperate to get laid so I will be exploring other mongering options.
DiverOyster
05-30-21, 00:55
Just messaged a few barravips girls that I liked to see what the rates are. All of them quoted 500 R / HR for incall, and 600-700 R + uber for outcall, like they are in a fucking union. And anywhere from 2000 R to 5000 R pernoite. I stood firm on my price (500 R pernoite, which I consider a great offer) and all of them wouldn't budge. One of them literally said 'go fuck yourself if you can't afford it")))) No way I'm paying a gringo price. I guess they are not that desperate and have enough clients who pay that much. Who are these suckers? Weekend warriors? I bet locals pay a fraction of what they quote. I'm not that desperate to get laid so I will be exploring other mongering options.That website doesn't sound good. I don't trust the look and GFE service level of any online girls anyway. For your information, the average salary for a white collar professional in Brazil is only around 4-5,000. These girls are asking an absurd amount to spread their legs.
In Sao Paulo, if you meet a girl at Scandallo, the minimum for 1 hour outcall to your place would be 500+uber. I have had pernoite for between 1,000 to 1,500, but I didn't find pernoite to be cost effective. Even though they stay all night, they don't allow me to fuck them more than around 1 hour. After around 1 hour, no more fucking allowed, only light kissing and cuddling allowed. Plus, they all want payment in advance which I am leery of.
Therefore, now I tend to stay clear of Scandallo girls. I find the clinicas in Sao Paulo to be the most cost effective way to play. I can fuck for 1 hour, pay after the session, then take a break to stroll around to eat something or to go back to my apt to recuperate and then back to the clinicas for the next session.
I will venture out to Rio in June to check out the pussy situation in Rio. I will find an Airbnb in Barra area to stay in since I read that this is an upscale area. Hope I can find the situation to be comparable or better and Sao Paulo.
Vagabundo1
05-30-21, 01:12
Rihanna noir is 400 pernoite for me.
Found her at dark side casas north of av presidente vargas.
I pick her up at central at 5 and we Uber back to transamerica.
You can also train them to take the bus to you. The guanabara on av America's.
3-4 pops a night and again in the morning.
Bare.
Three holes.
Many not all Barravipsgirls socialize at av gastao senges 185 for breakfast at olegario maciel 135/134 at night, and live at av gastao senges 395.
And I've got a list of similar lined up.
It's stupid to overpay in termas. Just get numbers and set it up outside. Don't pay the ask. Make a market, get 5-10 numbers and you will get your bid filled. Contact them a day in advance more. Be the hunter not the hunted, be the bat not the ball, gain and keep the initiative.
At these exchange rates Uber costs are negligible.
These are all shots of Rihanna Noir, two from Motel Carbonara in Bangu, where I paid 250 for 3 hours one Sunday after hiking.
Two from my room at Transamerica, where FLCNHvy, the Sikh Canadian from UBC, who was paying 1000 for "pernoites" from 4 x 4 that ended at 02 h with a girl with a rash on her ass came up to me and said high yesterday as he's still playing the longer and better cost per fuck game out here.
One from her social which has her nice ass out at Grumari beach where the girls go when they want to actually go to the beach with their real friends. Which one of our more recent contributors took a good day trip with information from this board..
TheDerilious
05-30-21, 01:29
Just messaged a few barravips girls that I liked to see what the rates are. All of them quoted 500 R / HR for incall, and 600-700 R + uber for outcall, like they are in a fucking union. And anywhere from 2000 R to 5000 R pernoite. I stood firm on my price (500 R pernoite, which I consider a great offer) and all of them wouldn't budge. One of them literally said 'go fuck yourself if you can't afford it")))) No way I'm paying a gringo price. I guess they are not that desperate and have enough clients who pay that much. Who are these suckers? Weekend warriors? I bet locals pay a fraction of what they quote. I'm not that desperate to get laid so I will be exploring other mongering options.It seems like Rio outcall is starting to get the American infection of charging more for outcall. I can generally understand it but I would argue that these women should be considered lower volume, rather than higher volume escorts where the time traveling is wasted earning potential (obviously, these women could be high volume as well).
I'm not an expert, but I would recommend meeting them first for an hour before pulling out the pernoite request. If they don't know you, they will be less likely to quote you a good price and would be much more hesitant to spend an extended time with a person they don't know. WGs do have safety concerns and longer stays with strangers are obviously more of a situation that could be unsafe or, more importantly, leave them open for scamming. Imagine spending a whole night with a dude who scams you; you get scammed AND you lose the earning potential for the wasted time. Higher initial costs for pernoite is definitely used to sucker morons who actually think they are paying to stay up all night, but it could be a mechanism to weed out scammers and insincere people. That's just my two cents; I know a lot of guys on monger boards get mad but I do feel like we forget how things look from the perspective of WGs. When we get scammed, we usually just lose some money or have a bad experience. When these women get into trouble, it could be much more dangerous. IMO, if you have a good experience with the girl on the first meeting (treat her well, be respectful, don't be a total slob / douche, and the all-important "chemistry" you will get a good pernoite price. It may not be the 500 pernoite you want, but it will definitely be better than 2-3 k. YMMV. I've had some WGs do a "free" pernoite after a great first meetup as long as we had a real date night on the town. Dinner, walk on the beach, etc.
One other bone to pick but it gets old listening to mongers complain about how WGs are laughing at us for overpaying. Yes, when morons pay 10 x the normal asking price, you deserve to be laughed at. This is the same as stupid foreigners who pay $20 USD to rent a chair from a vendor or $5 dollars for a coconut. But honestly, WGs are not laughing at mongers who pay a higher price for service, within reason. Going to a terma and paying the going rate, or using an online escort who charges more is not grounds for the insinuation that these men should be laughed at. Like it or not, higher cost will on average lead to higher returns. It often correlates with better looks, service, and experience. Could those same things be had at cheaper prices? Sure, but it's not called "finding a needle in a haystack" for a reason. On all of my mongering trips (first time in Brazil upcoming), I have tried cheap and expensive options. Overall, the more expensive options tended to have a higher floor for quality than cheaper options.
Do any of us actually think these women actually say to themselves, "This ugly gringo is painfully pounding the hell out of me, but I sure do respect the fact that he haggled with me over 50 real?" Be realistic, respect is earned through action. If you want to haggle for the lowest price, go wild. If you want to pay a little more to get better service or because you don't want to haggle, then do it. Be smart and don't overpay, but don't listen to other mongers who get mad about the fact that they can't lowball WGs because others have ruined the market. Imagine a guy calling out other men for their successful careers and wealth. We used to have a name for those people in life; losers.
Vagabundo1
05-30-21, 01:44
If you're not at Transamerica then use gparena.net reviewed girls.
Barravipsrio girls started there for 150.
I can point to several examples.
Just messaged a few barravips girls that I liked to see what the rates are. All of them quoted 500 R / HR for incall, and 600-700 R + uber for outcall, like they are in a fucking union. And anywhere from 2000 R to 5000 R pernoite. I stood firm on my price (500 R pernoite, which I consider a great offer) and all of them wouldn't budge. One of them literally said 'go fuck yourself if you can't afford it")))) No way I'm paying a gringo price. I guess they are not that desperate and have enough clients who pay that much. Who are these suckers? Weekend warriors? I bet locals pay a fraction of what they quote. I'm not that desperate to get laid so I will be exploring other mongering options.
Member #4729
05-30-21, 02:17
Seems like lately on this board and the Medellin forum there has been a lot of chatter (much of it sour) about prices. I will say to the people that consistently find themselves quoted outrageously high prices, consider that it could be an unflattering zapp photo- or the fact that you don't even have one- that's throwing things off. Prices that are ridiculously high (outliers) usually indicate something more than simple market forces.
Is it even possible to have a coherent discussion about what is considered a "fair" price? So much depends on contingencies and incidental factors. Ex- is it the end of the night in the Casino on Jaco or the beginning? Prices are half (or less) of what they are at 9 pm at 1:50 am. Your appearance and manner: do you look like a simp, a sucker, are you frightening, average, disabled, roided up? Might she actually want to have sex with you? The relative market value of the girl. What services she's willing to provide. What services you are requesting. The state of mind of the girl. Is it near her period? Her luteal phase? Is she ovulating? Do you remind the her of someone she knows? Is she having a bad day? Does she need to pay rent? Is she a bad negotiator? A shrewd businesswoman? How many days / weeks / years has she been at it? Does she feel herself getting old and willing to take less? Even though the girls are aware of the known going rate in a given market, there is always a spread between the bid and ask. Sometimes this spread is small, sometimes it's large enough to drive a bus through.
The Price Anxiety is that there is just one fair market price and that some pikers are throwing it off at the expense of more shrewd hobbyists who are in possession of knowledge of the "true" price. This is the great travesty being committed that seems to have so many in a sour mood. To be clear, I think in a basic sense this is true, and will always be true. However, please remember that price is not fixed- it is dynamic, it goes up and down based on sentiment, which is always changing. There are distinct markets where sentiments are divergent. Why are we even leaving our home countries if not for the arbitrage provided by tapping into another marketplace with different market dynamics? But, if you believe in classical economic theory (at least the Austrian / Chicago School), when a market becomes overpriced, it will eventually adjust down. Commodities traders always say the best cure for high prices is high prices. The bubble does not last, can not last. And if it does, the sad part will be that it was not in fact a bubble but a market shift and that you will need to find a new market just as you did when you left the US, etc. For the moment, in my mind, seems like the scene here in Rio has a fair price. And if it didn't, I'd just leave and go somewhere else.
Sage advice for those looking to rent cars, boats, motorcycles, bicycles...etc.
At the very lease one should, take extra care when filling out the existing damages on the top, right and left sides of the "car diagram section" of the rental agreement.
Fortunately, the buggy was a friend of mine, that was used while I visited in Buzios.They're very beat up. At one point, a half of my muffler fell off and began dragging on the road. I called, and a guy with a new buggy showed up in 10 minutes and took away the old one. Of course, it didn't even occur to me to record any damages for the second buggy, LOL.
That website doesn't sound good. I don't trust the look and GFE service level of any online girls anyway. For your information, the average salary for a white collar professional in Brazil is only around 4-5,000. These girls are asking an absurd amount to spread their legs.
In Sao Paulo, if you meet a girl at Scandallo, the minimum for 1 hour outcall to your place would be 500+uber. I have had pernoite for between 1,000 to 1,500, but I didn't find pernoite to be cost effective. Even though they stay all night, they don't allow me to fuck them more than around 1 hour. After around 1 hour, no more fucking allowed, only light kissing and cuddling allowed. Plus, they all want payment in advance which I am leery of.
Therefore, now I tend to stay clear of Scandallo girls. I find the clinicas in Sao Paulo to be the most cost effective way to play. I can fuck for 1 hour, pay after the session, then take a break to stroll around to eat something or to go back to my apt to recuperate and then back to the clinicas for the next session.
I will venture out to Rio in June to check out the pussy situation in Rio. I will find an Airbnb in Barra area to stay in since I read that this is an upscale area. Hope I can find the situation to be comparable or better and Sao Paulo.I'm not a big fan of the escort scene, but I have had good luck with Rio Sex Site. The thing is, you will find some of the same girls as on BarraVIP. I guess some of it comes down to the luck of the draw. As they say, YMMV.
https://www.riosexsite.com/
Has anyone tried this placed? I checked out some reviews on GPARENA from locals but seems like it's a legit massage place that offers Nuru, handjobs and maybe oral if you persist. The prices are good and girls look even better. Onix as well I heard from another poster was pretty legit with some handjob action. I didn't hit any Terapias last time I went to rio in January and went to go to some in September!
Thanks.
Just messaged a few barravips girls that I liked to see what the rates are. All of them quoted 500 R / HR for incall, and 600-700 R + uber for outcall, like they are in a fucking union. And anywhere from 2000 R to 5000 R pernoite. I stood firm on my price (500 R pernoite, which I consider a great offer) and all of them wouldn't budge. One of them literally said 'go fuck yourself if you can't afford it")))) No way I'm paying a gringo price. I guess they are not that desperate and have enough clients who pay that much. Who are these suckers? Weekend warriors? I bet locals pay a fraction of what they quote. I'm not that desperate to get laid so I will be exploring other mongering options.I had a Barra vip girl come over yesterday afternoon, she was from Curitiba, German and Polish blood. She was a natural blonde absolutely beautiful and stunning and one of the finest GDP's I've ever seen, worth every real, I might even call her today again. There's plenty of girls in Rio that will go for your prices but not fresh quality like this. Locals pay the same price for these girls and make up most of their business. I’ve had 2 from this site this trip all excellent gfe, actually this girl yesterday after we were finished she kept hanging out, what a sweetheart. Plus I paid at the end.
I took this photo on Copacabana beach way back in 2007 most likely a day after a night at Help. Enjoy.
Just messaged a few barravips girls that I liked to see what the rates are. All of them quoted 500 R / HR for incall, and 600-700 R + uber for outcall, like they are in a fucking union. And anywhere from 2000 R to 5000 R pernoite. I stood firm on my price (500 R pernoite, which I consider a great offer) and all of them wouldn't budge. One of them literally said 'go fuck yourself if you can't afford it")))) No way I'm paying a gringo price. I guess they are not that desperate and have enough clients who pay that much. Who are these suckers? Weekend warriors? I bet locals pay a fraction of what they quote. I'm not that desperate to get laid so I will be exploring other mongering options.Yeah they saw you as easy money. I messaged a few and I got some for 300-400 are incalled / outcall + Uber. The thing about the online girls is that they have a pretty stable client base, alot of them stay in Transamerica which has a bunch of guys going in and out, they have to time their schedule which can be all over the place sometimes since they can be from out of state / city and they have things set up days or weeks in advance with other guys. They have to be business minded so they can maximize their earning potential. It sucks but not all of them are like this tho. Talking to a few of them I did gather that they liked when the guy spoke some porto (because you know how girls love to talk) sex is better when you can easily communicate as well. Also depends how good looking you are / personality. I had a girl charge me 500+uber for 1 HR and then the next time she charged 500 for 1. 5 HR no uber so if they like you after the first meeting they can be a little more easy on the pricing since they know you aren't a creep or anything like that which is also one of their risks compared to a terma or prive where there are some security.
I found the best pricing are the termas like 4 x4 and solarium (centaraus is also good but pretty expensive compared to the rest but I would try to go at least once and get as many numbers. I met a really hot cool chick and most of the girls were pretty friendly) and some prives. The girls at the termas are super chill and it seems like they are in it for a good time and I got a few overnight for 200 R who were real hot. So it's a cat and mouse game of finding the right girls because some do overcharge.
That being said I wouldn't let 500 R be the reason not to bang a hottie you want. Some posters will scoff at your money management but at the same time it's your money to do with and you could never return to Brazil ever again for whatever reason so get the most out of it. 500 R is high but it's not absurd like 1000 for 1 HR. 500 R is like $90 and to me that's a cheap date you go on a girl with you are trying to bang not including your time. In Barcelona you pay close to 100 to 150 Euro, Montreal you pay $125-140 and London you pay 100-150 Pounds all much more expensive. There are some girls that charge 200 R that I wouldn't fuck for free. I know what I like and I will pay the price (again not absurd prices) because I'm on vacation for 2 weeks and I want to bang as many hot girls as I can manage (the FOMO is always the worst sometimes).
Don't hesitate to PM some posters as well there are some who like to take some newbies under their wings and you can go thru a crash course in a few days.
I'm coming down in September with a friend who has never been to Brazil (only Colombia) We'll be staying 1 week in SP and 1 week in RJ. I heard it gets a bit cold in RJ around that time compared to when I went in January. Any other things I should know about September so I can prepare? We'll be getting a villa or something like that (any recommendations for some hidden gems? Greatly appreciated) in Copa or Ipanema (barra I liked the many options for cheap luxury condos / villas but the travel from the beach / termas girls is a huge miss for me, I like to step out and feel the sun and sand without planning a whole routine and terma girls are always down to fuck after their shift if they struck out that night and it's a pain to wait 30+ minutes for them to get to barra, prive girls are ok but not very GFE and are pretty mechanical to me IMO).
Can't wait to get back to Rio to see my terma girls who have been messaging me since I left in January! A much needed gateway to paradise!
I had a Barra vip girl come over yesterday afternoon, she was from Curitiba, German and Polish blood. She was a natural blonde absolutely beautiful and stunning and one of the finest GDP's I've ever seen, worth every real, I might even call her today again. There's plenty of girls in Rio that will go for your prices but not fresh quality like this. Locals pay the same price for these girls and make up most of their business. Ive had 2 from this site this trip all excellent gfe, actually this girl yesterday after we were finished she kept hanging out, what a sweetheart. Plus I paid at the end.This is all definitely more in line with my experience with Rio Sex Site as well. I met a gorgeous natural blonde in Sampa from Curitiba too by the way with deep blue eyes. These girls do move around. Wonder if we may have enjoyed the same one?
Vagabundo1
05-30-21, 17:42
Not my type.
Bundinha.
Not bundao.
Didn't even click on the small version.
I took this photo on Copacabana beach way back in 2007 most likely a day after a night at Help. Enjoy.
Member #4729
05-30-21, 19:24
Do any of us actually think these women actually say to themselves, "This ugly gringo is painfully pounding the hell out of me, but I sure do respect the fact that he haggled with me over 50 real?" Be realistic, respect is earned through action. If you want to haggle for the lowest price, go wild. If you want to pay a little more to get better service or because you don't want to haggle, then do it. Be smart and don't overpay, but don't listen to other mongers who get mad about the fact that they can't lowball WGs because others have ruined the market. Imagine a guy calling out other men for their successful careers and wealth. We used to have a name for those people in life; losers.This was hilarious to read, thanks. Seems like IG boards spend way too much time on this subject, and people get into too many arguments about it. WYGD?
For Vagabundo. I took this photo on Copacabana beach way back in 2007 most likely a day after a night at Help. Enjoy.
Okay, yah lost me on the connection to Vagabundo. Most of the pics from Vagabundo are IMHO, pretty Brasileiras with terrific bronzed bodies.
Not my type. Bundinha. Not bundao.
I didn't think so either.
I have observed in many threads in ISG of guys getting offended if a poster has a different view from them. I prefer brancas to negras, why should a poster be offended because of that?
Okay, I get it now...this is one of your brancas with a super hot bronze tan. Wow, she's pretty hot! Carry on!
Vagabundo1
05-30-21, 20:43
That says it all.
You haven't been to Rio or Brazil.
Good luck, lad.
On all of my mongering trips (first time in Brazil upcoming)
Vagabundo1
05-30-21, 20:53
At least you're here.
According to your reports, you're still getting it all covered. And they're not letting you on their social media.
My issue is with prepandemic pictures which have nothing to do with what is currently out there. The pictures I post are from this year, if not this month.
The metro stop in barra has changed things in several ways. It's easier for talent to get to barra.
Transamerica is not the only spot, but it is good for the barravipsrio girls, as most are here at some point or another, usually at the start of their careers which is good.
As I've said, ksportal offers luxury apartments near metro jardim oceanico.
My issue is also with ISG members who ask me to go out to termas with them when they are paying 1000 for pernoite for a girl who leaves at 02 h, as I mentioned. Then the staff at 4 x4 come up to me and say, "oh don't you remember your friend who paid 1000 reais to take the girl out pernoite" which really is the locals saying "you are a idiot gringo, why don't you do the same stupid thing". It's not just me. It is a more or less direct quote from Bubba Boy, who literally wrote the 2 part, 100 page guide to Rio. All of which is still valid, except for some things like which venues are open, all of which can be updated by looking at gparena.net.
Seems like lately on this board and the Medellin forum there has been a lot of chatter (much of it sour) about prices.
Pahllus Maximus
05-30-21, 21:34
Yep, multi-factorial market pricing with all the usual arbitrage and fools in the game, men and women. I enjoy your posts.
For this group, those not not selling labour, smart investments and living in pleasant lands arbitraging currency, tax laws, exploiting the cost of living and price and ready availability of beautiful and nubile young women is entirely rational, especially with effectively free video communication and dirt cheap airlines to have the best of all worlds. COVID has wreaked havoc on that, and is why it is so traumatic. It has effectively forced the sale of high structural cost societies, a sort of put option by closed borders.
IMHO, the Real seems undervalued. With a rate of R100=USD 18.50 (roughly 5. 5), <$US60 for an hour or more of pleasure is a good deal. Many are under <$USD25 an hour. Is there price of pussy (POP INDEX) (snicker) ?
Vagabundo1
05-30-21, 21:56
The two questions to ask are:
1. Are you getting it bare?
2. Are you on her social media?
If not, you probably don't have her respect, and you may as well be a dildo.
If you're writing about Brazil and you haven't even been here, what's the point?
If the extent of your experience is ordering freelancers like Elisa Sanches or going to termas in Copa, then your perspective is so limited your input is of limited value at best.
HarvestBoi
05-30-21, 22:23
Don't laugh. Years ago a friend showed me a paper in a serious economics journal, that quantified currency exchange rates and strength of domestic economy in terms of prostitution prices or as he put it "the international working girl hour". Sadly I tossed it years ago or I'the give you the link.
IMHO, the Real seems undervalued. With a rate of R100=USD 18.50 (roughly 5. 5), <$US60 for an hour or more of pleasure is a good deal. Many are under <$USD25 an hour. Is there price of pussy (POP INDEX) (snicker) ?
Vagabundo1
05-30-21, 22:38
That's just the big Mac index from the economist.com or purchasing power parity.
Look if you haven't even been in Brazil you probably have no cred writing about it.
Don't laugh. Years ago a friend showed me a paper in a serious economics journal, that quantified currency exchange rates and strength of domestic economy in terms of prostitution prices or as he put it "the international working girl hour". Sadly I tossed it years ago or I'the give you the link.
Member #4729
05-30-21, 22:43
Don't laugh. Years ago a friend showed me a paper in a serious economics journal, that quantified currency exchange rates and strength of domestic economy in terms of prostitution prices or as he put it "the international working girl hour". This is an idea I've discussed with my father (an actual economist) and is actually a fairly serious proposition. After all, famed economist Steven Levitt writes about the Economics of Drug Dealing in the best seller "Freakonomics", and I see no reason why the measure would be any less valid than the widely used "Big Mac" Index and worthy of deep study.
https://www.economist.com/big-mac-index
One esteemed poster noted here a while back that the efflorescence of prostitution seems to occur most robustly in emerging middle-income countries in which there is still a large income inequality and where wage labor remains depressed. Thailand, Brazil, Russia would be great examples. Consider that although working girl hours remain the cheapest in low income countries like Cambodia, Philippines, and Cambodia, but there is lack of a critical infrastructure around it on the scale of aforementioned locations and the industry has not flourished. Germany and the FKK scene seems to elide this rule, but perhaps could more represent the logic of a migratory labor force from the Balkans similar to the German phenomenon of the "Polish Plumber".
First chance I get I'm going right back to Angeles City / Subic where you can get 30-40 $ BBFS with a LBFM 7 nights a week. For my money, that's the best values out there even if the whole city is a sh*t hole. I mean, priorities.
The two questions to ask are:
1. Are you getting it bare?
2. Are you on her social media?
If not, you probably don't have her respect, and you may as well be a dildo.
If you're writing about Brazil and you haven't even been here, what's the point?
If the extent of your experience is ordering freelancers like Elisa Sanches or going to termas in Copa, then your perspective is so limited your input is of limited value at best.First of all, you assume that getting it bare is always a good thing that all mongers should seek or want. The truth is that many guys choose to play it safe versus playing Russian roulette with their health by fucking multiple prostitutes bare. Plenty of women (including prostitutes too) actually do respect men who show that they care about safe sex practices that protect both themselves and women. Second, I find it interesting that you continue to heap praise upon Bubba Boy while consistently trashing the termas as well. The truth is that a huge focus of his was on the termas, and he spent a lot of time in them. You know, everybody's situation isn't like yours. They have different tastes, a different budget, and a different amount of time to monger. If we were all basically living in Brazil like you are, then yes that would call for doing things differently. A lot differently. But most of us aren't living there and therefore need (and even want) to roll differently. Your constant put downs of people with other tastes, desires, and views really does not contribute much here, and definitely isn't within the spirit of what this place is all about. More live and let live would be far more productive.
The first time I went to Colombia I did a similar thing. I stayed in Zona Rose (Bogota) and El Poblado (Medellin). Those are the nicer, more posh areas that are generally pretty safe. As I gained more familiarity with the various cities I started to spread my wings more and stay in different parts. Now when I visit I stay exclusively near Sante Fe in Bogota and a variety of places in Medellin. . . .
I see the comparison here when talking about where to stay in Rio regarding Copa vs. Barra. As this will be my first trip to Brazil, I'll be staying in Copa (to start) in Rio and Moema while in SP. . . . Your take on how to go about assessing "where to stay", in Rio / SP with reference to your experiences in Bogota / Medellin is pretty good. It should serve you well, in Brazil. New MBs plagued with this decision should take note.
Colombia (Bogota / Medellin) is on my bucket list, so your info, definitely helps. Thanks!
I went to RB156 yesterday.
I just gave them my "name" and they pulled it and gave me a card to go into and out of the building.
I just wanted a real massage at onix.
It was 110 r for an hour, and 60 for intimo.
As it turned out a real massage also included a hand job, which is a nice gesture. I was just looking for a deep tissue massage.Hi Vagabundo,
Enjoy reading your insights. At Onix is there a potential for more action or is it just HJ. Carol, Laura, Malu look hot. Did you session with them by any chance?
If my budget is 500 R pernoite (or multiple hours date) and I want them to come over to my airbnb? Barravips girls are pricey and do not negotiate. Brothels / casas / termas. I do not like, because I prefer to fuck in my apartment, it is much more enjoyable, I can put my favorite music on, pour some wine or mix up my drinks. If I'm paying for a nice apartment it would be stupid not to use it and rent a shitty motel room or fuck in a tiny termas room.
I see three options:
1. Visit mab's or dolce vita and try to grab a working girl there and bring her over to my place. Any other bars or clubs with working girls I should stop by?
2. Will try SA, the selection is poor, I guess it is not popular in Rio, but who knows. Premium membership is on sale now, and I will buy it anyways for my trip to Bogota after.
3. Visit termas and collect phone numbers and try to arrange something later. I am not sure how this is going to play out, my guess is that they would want pretty much same money as barravip girls. Also, entrance fees, drinks, etc all add up. My understanding is termas are hit or miss, sometimes lineups are good, sometimes they are not. But just to get in and see who is working requires some money and time. I don't mind spending money on drinks, etc. In fact, I love going out with girls and getting fucked up, but I just don't like being forced into paying some fees, buying bottles, etc. Required at some establishments.
I'm SA guy, I set up a date, pick a restaurant or a bar, and off we go. Eat, drink, dance, come to my place, fuck, 2 rounds usually with more drinks in between, she leaves. Rinse and repeat. I'm trying to find something similar for reasonable money in Rio.
Any suggestions are welcomed.
GordyGekko
05-31-21, 00:53
I finally made my trip to Rio a few weeks ago after a long hiatus and really enjoyed the termas again, even though Luomo is no longer there. I also decided to stay in Botafogo, which is a good neighborhood and has fewer tourists. Staying in Barra made no sense. No grocery store or pharmacy within walking distance and it takes forever to get anywhere. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Going to a terma and doing a session isn't overpaying. You are paying a fixed price for services offered by the house. Those who say you overpay at a terma frankly can't afford it! Just admit it.
And this whole act of "oh I'm so like a Brazilian and savvy and will only go in to get numbers because that's what Brazilians do". Another crock of shit. There are plenty of Brazilian customers that session in the termas because 1) they have the money to do so 2) they're married, so it's their discrete getaway from their wives during the week.
The majority of these girls are more comfortable seeing the customer in the terma for the first encounter. After that, the customer can get her number and have her come to his place for a better agreed upon price. Going to a terma and getting a bunch of numbers doesn't mean you have any guarantee of girls coming over to your place. It's funny how the hit / miss ratio of this strategy is NEVER mentioned. So if you go to a terma and see someone you like and are getting along well with, do the test drive there. There's no shame in it. You're on vacation with limited time.
It's stupid to overpay in termas. Just get numbers and set it up outside. Don't pay the ask. Make a market, get 5-10 numbers and you will get your bid filled. Contact them a day in advance more. Be the hunter not the hunted, be the bat not the ball, gain and keep the initiative.
At these exchange rates Uber costs are negligible.
Vagabundo1
05-31-21, 01:13
Yeah, FS is available at the prives.
Read gparena.net.
Select the prive tab.
It's 120 for the hour at most, 70 or 80 for the half.
Hi Vagabundo,
Enjoy reading your insights. At Onix is there a potential for more action or is it just HJ. Carol, Laura, Malu look hot. Did you session with them by any chance?
Vagabundo1
05-31-21, 01:29
I'm not even going to argue, just quote Bubba Boy, who wrote.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2558375&viewfull=1#post2558375.
"The longer I spend in Rio, the more I head to the cheaper places and the prives, basically you can find some real gems for a fraction of the price of the expensive places. The only downside is that the cheaper places tend to have less of a choice, this can be overcome by going to 2 or 3 on the same night. Entrance is generally are $ 10 to are $ 20 and the girl maybe are $ 100, hence with a bit of work you can bang some one as hot or even hotter than at the expensive places for just are $ 150, half the price and twice the fun!
Now on the basis of your 2 posts, I understand you disagree. I am quoting from Bubba Boy's two entire written guides. As for money, well, I have enough to be here as long as I want, while most visitors are constrained by time, money, or both. As they say in the law, res ipsa loquitor. Look it up.
As for the stock market comparison, it is actually like a stock market. It has everything to do with economics. That's self evident.
Staying in Botafogo is a good move, which I've done and recommended.
But the simple fact is that the best girls have chosen to live in Barra, which tells you something. We have a saying in the military art, "get inside his decision making loop," or to use the wingman analogy, "get on his 6," meaning behind your target. Allowing that most of the chicks you are looking at live at Transamerica, would it not help your game to see those girls at 10 am and 2 PM in the pool? In the elevator? In reception? In the bar? On the street for the morning walk?
But you got me, I don't know anything.
Oh, by the way, my hit ratio? It was one shot, one kill on Rihanna Noir (pictured) on the cheaper place on the Darkside. I got her number, waited a few weeks, texted her, met her at Central, and went straight bare up those 19 year old holes. And she is one of 3-4 in the rotation, and there are several trying to get in at any given time.
Just factually, you're wrong. It's easy to get to pharma and grocery in Barra.
I finally made my trip to Rio a few weeks ago after a long hiatus and really enjoyed the termas again, even though Luomo is no longer there. I also decided to stay in Botafogo, which is a good neighborhood and has fewer tourists. Staying in Barra made no sense. No grocery store or pharmacy within walking distance and it takes forever to get anywhere. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Going to a terma and doing a session isn't overpaying. You are paying a fixed price for services offered by the house. Those who say you overpay at a terma frankly can't afford it! Just admit it.
And this whole act of "oh I'm so like a Brazilian and savvy and will only go in to get numbers because that's what Brazilians do". Another crock of shit. There are plenty of Brazilian customers that session in the termas because 1) they have the money to do so 2) they're married, so it's their discrete getaway from their wives during the week..
GordyGekko
05-31-21, 02:04
First of all, you assume that getting it bare is always a good thing that all mongers should seek or want. The truth is that many guys choose to play it safe versus playing Russian roulette with their health by fucking multiple prostitutes bare. Plenty of women (including prostitutes too) actually do respect men who show that they care about safe sex practices that protect both themselves and women. Second, I find it interesting that you continue to heap praise upon Bubba Boy while consistently trashing the termas as well. The truth is that a huge focus of his was on the termas, and he spent a lot of time in them. You know, everybody's situation isn't like yours. They have different tastes, a different budget, and a different amount of time to monger. If we were all basically living in Brazil like you are, then yes that would call for doing things differently. A lot differently. But most of us aren't living there and therefore need (and even want) to roll differently. Your constant put downs of people with other tastes, desires, and views really does not contribute much here, and definitely isn't within the spirit of what this place is all about. More live and let live would be far more productive.To add to The Cane's point...The majority of hobbyists/punters are on vacation to get laid by beautiful women for less cost than their home country. They aren't pathologically obsessed with getting the cheapest price possible and denigrating everybody else that doesn't do the same thing. Most of use are not living in a fantasy world where our ego depends on shooting the most loads in the most holes for the least price.
Also, these exaggerated posts about Barra (known as Boring Barra to most veterans) and cheap all night rates for VM low quality gp's are just going to lead a bunch of newbies into frustration and sub par experiences because the recommendations are out of touch with reality.
This hobby is for pleasure. It's not war. It's not the stock market. It's not mission impossible or some spy game.
Member #4698
05-31-21, 02:10
<snip> I find it interesting that you continue to heap praise upon Bubba Boy while consistently trashing the termas as well. The truth is that a huge focus of his was on the termas, and he spent a lot of time in them. You know, everybody's situation isn't like yours. They have different tastes, a different budget, and a different amount of time to monger. If we were all basically living in Brazil like you are, then yes that would call for doing things differently. A lot differently. But most of us aren't living there and therefore need (and even want) to roll differently. Your constant put downs of people with other tastes, desires, and views really does not contribute much here, and definitely isn't within the spirit of what this place is all about. More live and let live would be far more productive.Yeah, I don't have get the "my way is the only way" attitude or the divisive pseudo macho rhetoric that says, "anybody who pays list price is a sucker." This BS should end. There are many ways to intelligently play the game. Do what is good for you and don't fret about what the other guy is doing.
<snip> Going to a terma and doing a session isn't overpaying. You are paying a fixed price for services offered by the house. Those who say you overpay at a terma frankly can't afford it! Just admit it.
And this whole act of "oh I'm so like a Brazilian and savvy and will only go in to get numbers because that's what Brazilians do". Another crock of shit. There are plenty of Brazilian customers that session in the termas because 1) they have the money to do so 2) they're married, so it's their discrete getaway from their wives during the week.
The majority of these girls are more comfortable seeing the customer in the terma for the first encounter. After that, the customer can get her number and have her come to his place for a better agreed upon price. Going to a terma and getting a bunch of numbers doesn't mean you have any guarantee of girls coming over to your place. It's funny how the hit / miss ratio of this strategy is NEVER mentioned. So if you go to a terma and see someone you like and are getting along well with, do the test drive there. There's no shame in it. You're on vacation with limited time.I couldn't agree more. There a dozens of individual reasons why men like to go to bordellos to get it on. I like hanging out in the Termas and getting up front and close with the Terma girls. The idea of not taking a sexy girl upstairs whom I had just made out with and fondled for 10 minutes sounds insane to me. I am here to have a good time, not see how little I can get away with paying.
And Gordy, you make another important point about there being no guarantees that the girl in question ever makes it to my place after we exchange phone numbers and not bodily fluids. I gather the idea is to take advantage of the law of large numbers. IE make the offer to enough girls and someone is always bound to come over. But that is not how I like to roll. I am a straight forward shooter. When a girl turns me on, I want her and I take her. Simple. Straight forward. No messing around. No games. No waiting / I just want to get it on and have sex with her. And after the session is all over, if I really liked the girl and I think I might want to repeat with her at some future date, we can always exchange whatsapp numbers then and we make all the future plans we want. And I can go out, have some dinner, and then hit another Terma or Bar and do it all over again.
So my focus is entirely on the girls; their looks and the quality of their service. I would never put someone down who has found an alternative, cheaper, or for him, a better way. But respect is a 2 way street. I expect the same level of respect back or the gloves will come off. (555 BTW means hahaha).
I'm coming down in September with a friend who has never been to Brazil (only Colombia) We'll be staying 1 week in SP and 1 week in RJ. I heard it gets a bit cold in RJ around that time compared to when I went in January. Any other things I should know about September so I can prepare? We'll be getting a villa or something like that (any recommendations for some hidden gems? Greatly appreciated) in Copa or Ipanema (barra I liked the many options for cheap luxury condos / villas but the travel from the beach / termas girls is a huge miss for me, I like to step out and feel the sun and sand without planning a whole routine and terma girls are always down to fuck after their shift if they struck out that night and it's a pain to wait 30+ minutes for them to get to barra, prive girls are ok but not very GFE and are pretty mechanical to me IMO).
Can't wait to get back to Rio to see my terma girls who have been messaging me since I left in January! A much needed gateway to paradise!But in Copa it won't be 1) villa and 2) cheap. It's all about penthouses in Copa. I stayed in a huge 2 story penthouse with a huge jacuzzi overlooking the beach. However, there were 3 of us sharing the cost, and it was still a pretty penny.
As to "cold," I love Rio during the "cold" winter months when cariocas are forced to wear light jackets and bi*tch about the weather to no end. Cracks me up every time. It has never been too cold for me to go into the ocean, enough said, LOL.
Vagabundo1
05-31-21, 03:51
Economist.com on prostitution
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.economist.com/united-states/2014/03/22/sex-lies-and-statistics
Actually it is exactly like the stock market.
Don't take it from me.
Vagabundo1
05-31-21, 03:56
If a woman likes fucking you she is going to want to fuck bare.
Termas test.
You can test, either at home like anaggie or in Brazil for free at a public hospital or for pay.
TiaVoyage25
05-31-21, 04:08
Everyone has a preference, that is just mine. In Frankfurt I stay at the Hilton right next to all the brothels. It is a "seedy" area, but the hotel itself is safe and convenient.
Ultimately we are all in this for our own reasons and make the best plans we can to fit our own objectives. Some people are all about convenience, some people want the best deal possible, some people want to explore, and some want the best combination thereof. There's no right or wrong answer and my personal philosophy is to just do what works best for you. During this trip I certainly plan to explore a lot, but my primary goal is to find as many of the the top shelf big booty brancas I can!
If you're planning a trip Bogota or Medellin, let me know and I will gladly share the best girl friend hotels in various areas to save you some time with research.
Your take on how to go about assessing "where to stay", in Rio / SP with reference to your experiences in Bogota / Medellin is pretty good. It should serve you well, in Brazil. New MBs plagued with this decision should take note.
Colombia (Bogota / Medellin) is on my bucket list, so your info, definitely helps. Thanks!
If my budget is 500 R pernoite (or multiple hours date) and I want them to come over to my airbnb? Barravips girls are pricey and do not negotiate. Brothels / casas / termas. I do not like, because I prefer to fuck in my apartment, it is much more enjoyable, I can put my favorite music on, pour some wine or mix up my drinks. If I'm paying for a nice apartment it would be stupid not to use it and rent a shitty motel room or fuck in a tiny termas room.
I see three options:
1. Visit mab's or dolce vita and try to grab a working girl there and bring her over to my place. Any other bars or clubs with working girls I should stop by?
2. Will try SA, the selection is poor, I guess it is not popular in Rio, but who knows. Premium membership is on sale now, and I will buy it anyways for my trip to Bogota after.
3. Visit termas and collect phone numbers and try to arrange something later. I am not sure how this is going to play out, my guess is that they would want pretty much same money as barravip girls. Also, entrance fees, drinks, etc all add up. My understanding is termas are hit or miss, sometimes lineups are good, sometimes they are not. But just to get in and see who is working requires some money and time. I don't mind spending money on drinks, etc. In fact, I love going out with girls and getting fucked up, but I just don't like being forced into paying some fees, buying bottles, etc. Required at some establishments.
I'm SA guy, I set up a date, pick a restaurant or a bar, and off we go. Eat, drink, dance, come to my place, fuck, 2 rounds usually with more drinks in between, she leaves. Rinse and repeat. I'm trying to find something similar for reasonable money in Rio.
Any suggestions are welcomed.I would go with option 3.
As other have stated it's good to go in and check out the line up but more importantly chat with some girls and get their vibe and see if you guys can connect and actually get along on the same page on certain services. The girls are pretty relaxed and comfortable in the termas which lets them be very free and open so you really get to gauged their personality and attitude. Of course some can be playing the part and talk a big talk but not deliver but for the most part you get what you see and the good girls know how to get a guy interested and hooked. Entrance fees in rio are like 70 R to 100 R around there depending on the termas. You usually get two free drinks I usually just get coca cola and water personally and pass on any fancy stuff. Most of the girls I met didn't ask for a drink but the ones that did were in centaraus which is to be expected because that's the most "well known" termas so it comes with the territory I guess. It was usually a energy drink or some kinda mixed drink so it only set me back 30 R or something like that.
I met my 200 R pernoite girl in solarium and she's a doll. Sexy branca loira. Gave me a bunch of tips on copa and went out on Sunday to explore centro. Really naughty girl that had a real good heart. I remember we met a love hotel in copa and she asked if she could get some coconut juice and chips which were like 10 R total and was super happy when I said sure. Really down to earth and kept in great shape! We still keep in contact and I'm going to meet up with her again in September because she's a real nympho. The thing about termas that doesn't get mentioned often is that the girls arent allowed to have their cellphones when they are in the termas. So a girl can be sitting in those places for hours walking up and down trying to get a guy with no luck. So honestly when you're in there it's like shooting fish in barrel.
IMO you can find some real sweet girls in termas (and prives) they usually prefer termas for several reasons.
1) they have some security in these establishment.
2) they have some privacy (no one wants to be walking up and down the street where you might run into friends / family trying to get clients).
3) they don't have to deal with booking clients and running all over the place trying to outcalls or setting up incalls plus dealing with flaky customers (not to mention again privacy because you have to put pictures up to get customers and when girls blur their faces they lose a lot of potential clients like I and other posters here don't like having to go throw hoops asking for pics).
So it's an easy way for a girl to make some extra cash and keep her work / personal life separate. Hope this helps.
TiaVoyage25
05-31-21, 04:14
I'm not in Brazil yet, but I've had some success with getting things set up with SA so far. I use SA a lot in Colombia as well and honestly I'm getting many more hits in Brazil. But with a caveat.
The caveat is that the quality on SA for Brazil seems to be worse and you have to put in work to find the diamond in the rough. I wouldn't sleep with 90% of the women that have messaged me out of the blue, even for free. Take this with a grain of salt though because I have a preference for the "top shelf" model or porn star type and that is always, always, always harder to find.
If my budget is 500 R pernoite (or multiple hours date) and I want them to come over to my airbnb? Barravips girls are pricey and do not negotiate. Brothels / casas / termas. I do not like, because I prefer to fuck in my apartment, it is much more enjoyable, I can put my favorite music on, pour some wine or mix up my drinks. If I'm paying for a nice apartment it would be stupid not to use it and rent a shitty motel room or fuck in a tiny termas room.
I see three options:
1. Visit mab's or dolce vita and try to grab a working girl there and bring her over to my place. Any other bars or clubs with working girls I should stop by?
2. Will try SA, the selection is poor, I guess it is not popular in Rio, but who knows. Premium membership is on sale now, and I will buy it anyways for my trip to Bogota after.
3. Visit termas and collect phone numbers and try to arrange something later. I am not sure how this is going to play out, my guess is that they would want pretty much same money as barravip girls. Also, entrance fees, drinks, etc all add up..
But in Copa it won't be 1) villa and 2) cheap. It's all about penthouses in Copa. I stayed in a huge 2 story penthouse with a huge jacuzzi overlooking the beach. However, there were 3 of us sharing the cost, and it was still a pretty penny.
As to "cold," I love Rio during the "cold" winter months when cariocas are forced to wear light jackets and bi*tch about the weather to no end. Cracks me up every time. It has never been too cold for me to go into the ocean, enough said, LOL.Gotcha a penthouse will do just as well LOL My friend is used to the Miami Penthouse lifestyle so he's looking for something like that or a villa and when I showed him the Currency Exchange his jaw dropped when he saw how much you can get for so little relatively to miami! I'm more of a $40 to $50 a night Airbnb but he wants to celebrate and enjoy the best Brazil has to offer and not deal with non girlfriend friendly places and BS like that. The plan is to get a nice place we can bring some girls over to bang so we don't have to fuck in those small rooms at the termas / prives which is only downside I find with those places. Nice views and we can easily plan for things in the morning as I'm going to be his guide around the city and we all know how that can change every day / night LOL.
I was thinking copa, ipenama, leblon or botofoga area just in general I'm doing my research of course but wanted to see if anyone has a good recommendation.
Yea we're southerns so anything below 60 is cold for us so damn LOL oh well that's the plan so we'll deal with it kkkk.
Thanks for the reply!
The two questions to ask are:
1. Are you getting it bare?
2. Are you on her social media?
If not, you probably don't have her respect, and you may as well be a dildo..I have never wondered whether I am just a dildo for the chick I am with, or whether I gained her respect. My objective is to have fun and enjoy the session. To the extent I do that, the rest is irrelevant. The transaction is always that I get some fun and she in return gets some money.
Also, doing it bare does not guarantee a good session. I've had many CFS sessions that were hell of lot better than some of my bareback sessions.
Vagabundo1
05-31-21, 04:47
Yeah really.
It's all about skin to skin.
If she really wants your dick she wants the skin.
All the termas girls get tested. You can easily get tested.
Yeah really.
I have never wondered whether I am just a dildo for the chick I am with, or whether I gained her respect. My objective is to have fun and enjoy the session. To the extent I do that, the rest is irrelevant. The transaction is always that I get some fun and she in return gets some money.
Also, doing it bare does not guarantee a good session. I've had many CFS sessions that were hell of lot better than some of my bareback sessions.
Vagabundo1
05-31-21, 04:53
Eeww that's an ugly butt.
Haha.
Eeeewww it's sooo ugly!
Vagabundo1
05-31-21, 05:07
Rihanna noir at Barra posto 1 praia sos amadores.
This is the ass I've been fucking bare pernoite weekly. The butt that senhor cane has gone out of his way to label ugly.
I rest my case.
You can't jetski in Copa either bitches.
I was thinking copa, ipenama, leblon or botofoga area just in general I'm doing my research of course but wanted to see if anyone has a good recommendation.
Yea we're southerns so anything below 60 is cold for us so damn LOL oh well that's the plan so we'll deal with it kkkk.
Thanks for the reply!I've never experienced below 60 in Rio. I'm sure there might've been some odd years but in winter it's normally over 70, although it will drop a little at night, but not by that much. That's the time when Rio fashionistas break out their fancy light jackets and curse "brutal" Rio winters, LOL.
For a penthouse, I would start with Avenida Atlantica in Copa first. This listing reminds me of a place we rented over 10 years ago, but it's just one of many. You won't have an issue finding what you want.
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1912695?adults=1&check_in=2021-09-11&check_out=2021-09-16&translate_ugc=false&federated_search_id=beda2380-26d1-44e9-bf84-b3fd3a978e1d&source_impression_id=p3_1622434481_BLyvTbeSNn1Sac1F&guests=1
I have never wondered whether I am just a dildo for the chick I am with, or whether I gained her respect. My objective is to have fun and enjoy the session. To the extent I do that, the rest is irrelevant. The transaction is always that I get some fun and she in return gets some money.
Also, doing it bare does not guarantee a good session. I've had many CFS sessions that were hell of lot better than some of my bareback sessions.I mean the tute is taking cum shots to the lips, nose, and forehead. And getting fucked in the ass. And I'm supposed to be concerned about whether she respects me or not? Yes honey, I will still respect you in the morning. LOLOLOL! Let's both just have some fun with an agreed upon, transparent, fair exchange of money and move on. Maybe we will like each other enough to do it again (and again and again). Maybe not.
If my budget is 500 R pernoite (or multiple hours date) and I want them to come over to my airbnb? Barravips girls are pricey and do not negotiate. Brothels / casas / termas. I do not like, because I prefer to fuck in my apartment, it is much more enjoyable, I can put my favorite music on, pour some wine or mix up my drinks. If I'm paying for a nice apartment it would be stupid not to use it and rent a shitty motel room or fuck in a tiny termas room.
I see three options:
1. Visit mab's or dolce vita and try to grab a working girl there and bring her over to my place. Any other bars or clubs with working girls I should stop by?
2. Will try SA, the selection is poor, I guess it is not popular in Rio, but who knows. Premium membership is on sale now, and I will buy it anyways for my trip to Bogota after.
3. Visit termas and collect phone numbers and try to arrange something later. I am not sure how this is going to play out, my guess is that they would want pretty much same money as barravip girls. Also, entrance fees, drinks, etc all add up. My understanding is termas are hit or miss, sometimes lineups are good, sometimes they are not. But just to get in and see who is working requires some money and time. I don't mind spending money on drinks, etc. In fact, I love going out with girls and getting fucked up, but I just don't like being forced into paying some fees, buying bottles, etc. Required at some establishments.
I'm SA guy, I set up a date, pick a restaurant or a bar, and off we go. Eat, drink, dance, come to my place, fuck, 2 rounds usually with more drinks in between, she leaves. Rinse and repeat. I'm trying to find something similar for reasonable money in Rio.
Any suggestions are welcomed.Option 1 worked for me especially dolce vita girls are coming in and out all night plus they're freelance and can hang with you anytime. Don't forget girls who work in termas still have a full time job to go to and are only available when not working.
This is an idea I've discussed with my father (an actual economist) and is actually a fairly serious proposition. After all, famed economist Steven Levitt writes about the Economics of Drug Dealing in the best seller "Freakonomics", and I see no reason why the measure would be any less valid than the widely used "Big Mac" Index and worthy of deep study.
https://www.economist.com/big-mac-index
One esteemed poster noted here a while back that the efflorescence of prostitution seems to occur most robustly in emerging middle-income countries in which there is still a large income inequality and where wage labor remains depressed. Thailand, Brazil, Russia would be great examples. Consider that although working girl hours remain the cheapest in low income countries like Cambodia, Philippines, and Cambodia, but there is lack of a critical infrastructure around it on the scale of aforementioned locations and the industry has not flourished. Germany and the FKK scene seems to elide this rule, but perhaps could more represent the logic of a migratory labor force from the Balkans similar to the German phenomenon of the "Polish Plumber".
First chance I get I'm going right back to Angeles City / Subic where you can get 30-40 $ BBFS with a LBFM 7 nights a week. For my money, that's the best values out there even if the whole city is a sh*t hole. I mean, priorities.I have not been to Cambodia, but I would take issue with the assertion that prostitution in the Philippines is without critical infrastructure and does not flourish there. The infrastructure may not look like Germany's, but it absolutely does exist. And how somebody can say prostitution doesn't flourish in the Philippines, I find absolutely astounding! Mind boggling! I noticed that you wrote Cambodia twice. Did you mean to say Colombia perhaps? If so, I would say the same thing. Infrastructure for flourishing prostitution.
If my budget is 500 R pernoite (or multiple hours date) and I want them to come over to my airbnb? Barravips girls are pricey and do not negotiate. Brothels / casas / termas. I do not like, because I prefer to fuck in my apartment, it is much more enjoyable, I can put my favorite music on, pour some wine or mix up my drinks. If I'm paying for a nice apartment it would be stupid not to use it and rent a shitty motel room or fuck in a tiny termas room.
I see three options:
1. Visit mab's or dolce vita and try to grab a working girl there and bring her over to my place. Any other bars or clubs with working girls I should stop by?
2. Will try SA, the selection is poor, I guess it is not popular in Rio, but who knows. Premium membership is on sale now, and I will buy it anyways for my trip to Bogota after.
3. Visit termas and collect phone numbers and try to arrange something later. I am not sure how this is going to play out, my guess is that they would want pretty much same money as barravip girls. Also, entrance fees, drinks, etc all add up. My understanding is termas are hit or miss, sometimes lineups are good, sometimes they are not. But just to get in and see who is working requires some money and time. I don't mind spending money on drinks, etc. In fact, I love going out with girls and getting fucked up, but I just don't like being forced into paying some fees, buying bottles, etc. Required at some establishments.
I'm SA guy, I set up a date, pick a restaurant or a bar, and off we go. Eat, drink, dance, come to my place, fuck, 2 rounds usually with more drinks in between, she leaves. Rinse and repeat. I'm trying to find something similar for reasonable money in Rio.
Any suggestions are welcomed.Try all three options. You might be surprised, and actually like one more than another, according to your expectations. "My mama always said, 'Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get. '" – Forrest Gump.
Hi Vagabundo,
Enjoy reading your insights. At Onix is there a potential for more action or is it just HJ. Carol, Laura, Malu look hot. Did you session with them by any chance?Open menu buddy! Just make sure you ask her upfront what they will do or not do. Good luck!
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