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Member #4698

05-31-21, 15:15

The two questions to ask are:
1. Are you getting it bare? 2. Are you on her social media?
If not, you probably don't have her respect, and you may as well be a dildo. I think the 1st question to ask is are you getting it for free or are you paying. In a girl's mind, if you are paying, you are a customer. If she is giving it to you for free you are her boyfriend. It is that simple. Therefore, most of us on this forum are customers, but there was a time in my early 20's when Caribbean, Costa Rican, and Columbian working girls did me for free. I will never forget Mercedes, my Cartagena black beauty, who I spent a month with almost exclusively back in the day before I headed further south. I never gave her a peso. She never asked for anything.

Given that we are customers, the 2nd question to ask is does the girl turn off her meter when she is with you and let the ST become 3 or 4 hours (anything short of an overnight). Because when a working girl turns off her meter and decides to spend her leisure time with you, it is an indication of your importance and elevated customer status in her eyes. All my repeat girls turn off their meters by our 3rd session or I drop them. On my recent Brazil visit I had 2 of my repeat call girls go extended leisure time on me and I took them out to dinner after our session. It was fun drinking a bottle of wine, getting loose & romantic and making out in the booth of an upscale steak house. I can't wait to see those two again.

Bareback can also be an indication of elevated customer status, but not always, because many girls bareback and it is a just natural way to fuck in their minds. Unfortunately, none of my repeat Brazilian girls barebacked me and it was not for lack of trying on my part. I am not sure what it means exactly. Their reticence could be Covid related or possibly I am just a dildo, ha ha. I shall see. I will expect bareback from the 4 girls I plan to reunite with when I return.

I am not sure what you mean by a girl's social media. Are you referring to her Instagram site or something else? Many of my Brazilian girls shared their Instagram sites with me. I appreciated it and liked seeing their pics, but I didn't think it was a big deal. A better indicator of how they feel is whether they keep texting after you leave town. Sometimes that become a nuisance however and I like to keep out of town text sessions to 2 or 3 (4 max) per month.

And now since it is agreed that we are all customers, I would like to conduct a little thought experiment: Imagine a working girl, any working girl, has 2 repeat American customers with very similar good looks, affable personalities, and they are both decent in bed. Customer #1 pays the girl her absolute minimum and does her during her off hours. Customer #2 pays the girl her Barra Vip's asking price and does her in prime time. In addition, Customer #2 takes the girl out to restaurants and occasionally buys her gifts like expensive designer perfume. So, which customer do you think the girl likes better? If you think the girl likes Customer #1 better, you do not understand women.

WyattEarp

05-31-21, 15:38

I'm SA guy, I set up a date, pick a restaurant or a bar, and off we go. Eat, drink, dance, come to my place, fuck, 2 rounds usually with more drinks in between, she leaves. Rinse and repeat. I'm trying to find something similar for reasonable money in Rio.

Any suggestions are welcomed.This is all very, very possible but it will take a bit of adjustment from the usual SA chit-chat. And SA in the States ain't no easy point and click affair. There are SA fakes, flakes and hustlers.

In my opinion, Brazil is easier to find the date / fuck type of pro. You're likely going to have to "seek arrangements" face to face. You will have to display some charm and make the girl feel comfortable.

WyattEarp

05-31-21, 16:05

The majority of these girls are more comfortable seeing the customer in the terma for the first encounter. After that, the customer can get her number and have her come to his place for a better agreed upon price. Going to a terma and getting a bunch of numbers doesn't mean you have any guarantee of girls coming over to your place. It's funny how the hit / miss ratio of this strategy is NEVER mentioned. So if you go to a terma and see someone you like and are getting along well with, do the test drive there. There's no shame in it. You're on vacation with limited time.Yes, yes, no guarantees! Some girls won't respond. Some will text you for two hours that they are on their way and then flake. Something better to do came up for them. You might be on your last full day of vacation. The girl shows up three hours late while you wait in your apartment or the cafe downstairs. When do you take your Vitamin V? Is she fifteen minutes away or is she still at home an hour away?

This is why it's better to really work on a connection in the termas. That is why every experienced member recommends telling the girl that you will be there for another month. Learn some Portuguese! Vagabundo has the advantage of Portuguese language skills and being a local. The girls know they might be a regular in his rotation. If you are an attractive termas girl, you're going to be making great money for an unskilled, young Brazilian. One bloke leaving in three days isn't going to change their economics very much.

Dolce Vita and Mabs are good markets for carry out albeit small inventory. Same reason the old Help was (although much larger selection). There is more price transparency. You don't pay for the pomp and circumstance of Scandallo in SP. Everyone there will strike a deal for some lovin' that night. The price will tend to decline as the night wears on. However in an auction set-up, the girl might be obtained by another monger before you meet her ask.

WyattEarp

05-31-21, 16:28

We'll be getting a villa or something like that (any recommendations for some hidden gems? Greatly appreciated) in Copa or Ipanema (barra I liked the many options for cheap luxury condos / villas but the travel from the beach / termas girls is a huge miss for me, I like to step out and feel the sun and sand without planning a whole routine and terma girls are always down to fuck after their shift if they struck out that night and it's a pain to wait 30+ minutes for them to get to barra, prive girls are ok but not very GFE and are pretty mechanical to me IMO).I'm a bit confused by the mention of renting a villa in Copa and Ipanema. These aren't resort towns. These are densely populated urban areas with high-rises and mid-rises. It's possible there are some old "villas" scattered around. Even if there are, affluent people who own a villa will have on-premises staff who watch the home even when renters are present. So they will likely enforce the rules of the house.

If you are truly set on finding a villa rental, your best bet is to look further west of Copa / Ipanema. However, you have to adjust to the distance from the center. There are also quiet neighborhoods like Jardim Botanico and Botafogo, but you aren't going to be near the fun beaches.

Vagabundo1

05-31-21, 16:54

Moreover, if you offer a fair deal, and she likes you, she can actually replace working in a terma with you.

For example, Rihanna Noir was working in a dark side terma.

I offered her 400 pernoite.

She meets me at Central, and goes pernoite with me, which is more than she would probably make at the terma, maybe for more than one night.

She's still fucking some real BF back in Zona Norte, but she's with me pernoite instead of the terma, which she quit.

Yeah really.

It's all about skin to skin.

If she really wants your dick she wants the skin.

All the termas girls get tested. You can easily get tested.

Yeah really.

Member #4729

05-31-21, 18:07

I have not been to Cambodia, but I would take issue with the assertion that prostitution in the Philippines is without critical infrastructure and does not flourish there. The infrastructure may not look like Germany's, but it absolutely does exist. And how somebody can say prostitution doesn't flourish in the Philippines, I find absolutely astounding! Mind boggling! I noticed that you wrote Cambodia twice. Did you mean to say Colombia perhaps? If so, I would say the same thing. Infrastructure for flourishing prostitution.Total agreement- late night brain fart that once submitted could not be edited. I think in my bleary mind I was comparing Philippines and Cambodia to nearby Thailand, which is obviously much more developed (flourishing) in terms of said profession. Still it should be noted, and I speak from experience, there is a great girly-bar scene in Phnom Penh which is very enjoyable and full of options. And mongers around the world do indeed head to Subic / Angeles / Manila, and to a lesser extent Cebu for a good time. Fields Avenue in Angeles is not Walking Street in Pattaya, but I've had great times there.

As for the double Cambodia- I think I meant to say Indonesia which has a small scene in Bali and Jakarta but would surely be much bigger if not for the whole Islam thing. I had a great time in Malang with a non-pro so the dating scene there is actually pretty great.

Thanks for holding me to it Mr Cane. And my what a lively board this is.

TheDerilious

05-31-21, 18:21

That says it all.

You haven't been to Rio or Brazil.

Good luck, lad.Agreed, but mongering is mongering. I've been to Chile, Argentina, SEA, Japan, China, Canada, and the good ol' US of A to engage in this hobby (maybe I have a problem) and it's all the same. Women charge what they can get and men pay the least they can get. There is no regional cabal that keeps prices up (like diamond miners) so you are getting market dictated prices. The internet has probably changed prices forever because these women see the value they can make in other places or online and adjust accordingly if they have the means to, but it doesn't actually matter because most women cannot afford to lose income waiting.

Every board complains about the same things. You have the cheapskates who always complain about how prices aren't like they used to be 25 years ago and ignore basic economics like inflation or the cost of living. You have the weekend warriors who come in throw a bunch of money down at the airport and expect to have perfect 10's with fluent English roll out the red carpet and act as their servants. Finally, the dreaded question-askers who want to be handed the keys to these perfect 10's by posters on this board without doing any work. People keep pointing to the average salary of workers in Brazil like that is what these girls should be charging. First off, the average standard living in Brazil would be considered living in poverty in the US. Why should these women strive for that life? Additionally, most of these women have 10 years of work in this business so they have to compact all of their earnings into this because they won't have any other skills when they eventually get married or are "retired" due to age / looks. Smart women can achieve more but let us be real here; most people in life suck at planning for the future.

Guys like Bearsi and ZebraStripes seem to understand this game well. Human social interaction will never be a straight economic transaction; it will always be contingent on external factors. Women are not the same game where you can figure out the rules to optimize your results. Hell, I think you have a great mentality for how you do things as well. You play the "game" and have found the price point that matches your interests, income, and style; that may not work for other people. You don't go around trying to beat the system by trying to scam the system, you just work within it to find your sweet spot. That's what we should all strive for in mongering.

SinfullyKorean

05-31-21, 19:48

My trip is coming up soon and I'll be getting my PCR test to get ready. Here's the list I've compiled so far. Please let me know if I'm missing any "must try" locations. I did post this in the SP forum, thought I'd post here, too. This list is in the context of most of my time being in SP and 4 nights in Rio.

Rio

Solarium.

Termas 65.

Dolce vita.

Mabs.

Terma 65 (whiskeria 65) - close to 4 x4.

4 x4.

Monte carlo termal.

Centaurus.

SP

Scandallo.

Abbora.

Moema Prime.

Enjoy Spa.

Miruna.

ClinicacTangara, Rua Tangar, 200.

Casaro Augusta, Rua Augusta 787 Consolacao.

Bomboa.

Connections club.

Julia 57.

Cafe Photo.

I should've started this list a little sooner, as I'm sure I've missed a few before I started taking notes. I'm really grateful for this community in helping me compile this list and getting a head start before I land. And I look forward to contributing with my own set of reports in the upcoming days. =).

Safado69

05-31-21, 19:55

Probably should replace one T65 line item with Termas Manhattan (formerly Cancun) it's also walking distance to 4 X4.

My trip is coming up soon and I'll be getting my PCR test to get ready. Here's the list I've compiled so far. Please let me know if I'm missing any "must try" locations. I did post this in the SP forum, thought I'd post here, too. This list is in the context of most of my time being in SP and 4 nights in Rio.

Rio

Solarium.

Termas 65.

Dolce vita.

Mabs.

Terma 65 (whiskeria 65) - close to 4 x4.

4 x4.

Monte carlo termal.

Centaurus.

SP

Scandallo.

Abbora.

Moema Prime.

Enjoy Spa.

Miruna.

ClinicacTangara, Rua Tangar, 200.

Casaro Augusta, Rua Augusta 787 Consolacao.

Bomboa.

Connections club.

Julia 57.

Cafe Photo.

I should've started this list a little sooner, as I'm sure I've missed a few before I started taking notes. I'm really grateful for this community in helping me compile this list and getting a head start before I land. And I look forward to contributing with my own set of reports in the upcoming days. =).

Anaggie

05-31-21, 23:40

And now since it is agreed that we are all customers, I would like to conduct a little thought experiment: Imagine a working girl, any working girl, has 2 repeat American customers with very similar good looks, affable personalities, and they are both decent in bed. Customer #1 pays the girl her absolute minimum and does her during her off hours. Customer #2 pays the girl her Barra Vip's asking price and does her in prime time. In addition, Customer #2 takes the girl out to restaurants and occasionally buys her gifts like expensive designer perfume. So, which customer do you think the girl likes better? If you think the girl likes Customer #1 better, you do not understand women.This right here. At the end of the day, we are customers to these women. They need the money and we want to get laid.

The Cane

06-01-21, 00:33

This right here. At the end of the day, we are customers to these women. They need the money and we want to get laid.There are always those mongers who start thinking and acting like they're something other than a client. But the hard reality is as you say. If you're paying her, then a customer you are. Granted, not all clients are going to be viewed and treated as equals in her eyes, but still any man who pays is a client nevertheless. Stop paying out the money, and make it clear that no more is forthcoming, and see what happens next. See how "special" you are then. She will be out of there faster than you can say Jack Robinson! In a New York minute!

Nounce

06-01-21, 00:37

So, which customer do you think the girl likes better?The conditions of your question is framed in a way that is bias toward a specific answer. I think VB1 will just say NEXT.

SinfullyKorean

06-01-21, 00:38

This right here. At the end of the day, we are customers to these women. They need the money and we want to get laid.This is probably the case for 99% of the audience here. There are your rare expats / locals who are playing the long game, getting laid for (almost) free. And if I were living there for more than a month, I'd probably be interested. But as a short term visitor, all I care about is getting a good lay. BB would be great, not a requirement. A requirement is finding a great GFE session that's not going to cost me an arm and a leg every session. It's also nice to know that bangable 10's are out there for a price (e.g. Scandallo and Centaurus). But it's also nice to know the other termas and clinicas offering much more budget friendly options.

As they say, different strokes for different folks.

SinfullyKorean

06-01-21, 00:54

Probably should replace one T65 line item with Termas Manhattan (formerly Cancun) it's also walking distance to 4 X4.Thanks! Someone in SP forum mentioned T65 and I thought I didn't have it on my list. I've replaced with Manhattan/Cancun per your suggestion.

Nounce

06-01-21, 01:06

Germany and the FKK scene seems to elide this rule, but perhaps could more represent the logic of a migratory labor force from the Balkans similar to the German phenomenon of the "Polish Plumber".I think another reason is because it is an efficient operation so the girls can work more and make more money.

Mr Enternational

06-01-21, 03:03

Every board complains about the same things. You have the cheapskates who always complain about how prices aren't like they used to be 25 years ago and ignore basic economics like inflation or the cost of living. People keep pointing to the average salary of workers in Brazil like that is what these girls should be charging. First off, the average standard living in Brazil would be considered living in poverty in the US.The inflation argument would be done with a basket of goods. If the basket of goods has only gone up 20%, why would prostitution have gone up a whopping 500%? The USA has nothing to do with what is going on in Brazil. The average Brazilian male is not paying 1000 reais per night for a chick that would be in Mabs as a Mabs chick would attempt to charge a foreigner. The average salary of workers in Brazil matters because Brazilian men with Brazilian salaries are who their primary customers are. These men are not paying 1 month's salary to be with a chick the way some foreigners are coming along and paying that.

It is like locals have been fishing peacefully at a pond forever using fishing poles. Most foreigners will go down to the pond and fish the same way the locals are. Then comes a foreigner that decides he wants to fish with dynamite. Then another. Then another. Soon the locals change ponds and any other foreigner that comes to the old pond will have to bring dynamite or he is leaving fishless.

Pahllus Maximus

06-01-21, 03:13

For the sake of yourself and everybody, get some tenofovir 300 MG for HIV protection (Gay men use it) and watch Hep see, or better still wear something that can delay a pop.

Syphilis is also a danger.

The alternative is Kazakhstan Gypsy tears in an amulet. I am so grateful Fox news put me onto the UFO / fake moon landing / CIA / 5 G conspiracy and along with Facebook enabled valuable theoretical breakthroughs that turns out were in the Pyramids but concealed by the Government, along with making gold and oil from water.

Pahllus Maximus

06-01-21, 03:27

https://stanfordcomparativeadvantage.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/cook-et-al-prostitution.pdf

I will say the Price of Pussy (POP) suggest the Real is undervalued and that includes BR companies that earn hard currency. I have not found a POP ETF. Part of the problem is that measuring POP creates all sorts of insider trading and agency problems of the field staff. I will volunteer for this duty!

Member #4729

06-01-21, 03:37

I'd like to start this mini-update by addressing this issue about "respect" from a girl through social media contact and "raw" contact which was made in reference to me. It's actually a really interesting knot to untie and since I obviously do not accept the critique or the ad hominem that followed, this is an opportunity to address a category error that was and is often made. Let's grant the premise for the sake of argument and envision a world where I run back to the forum to report on a new garota that I have made the acquaintance of who: 1. Lets me raw dog all night long, and 2. Has made full insta contact etc. Ok, according to the premise, that's it guys, I have this girls respect and can hang that trophy on the wall and ye all can bask in my radiant glow! Except that during my triumphal lap beneath the thundering sound of applause, this girl slips away to work, IE to suck cocks and ride them, maybe even your cock, and that "respect" I had earned, well it's not worth a lot. The premise is revealed to be flawed.

These are working girls and we have professional relationships with them that some times seem personal, but are not. Accordingly, they make professional decisions like going uncovered (a somewhat bad decision in the long run), or allowing the world (including their family) to see they have a lot of older dudes on their social media. One wonders why? Once again for those in the back-at the end of the day, any connection you make you must remember it is professional and not personal. It's an easy mistake we make because we feel fucking amazing and virile after we have sex with them and we allow the fantasies to tumble through our imagination. This is fine, but only up to a point.

Moving along, since I last checked in the pernoites with Lucrezia have become regular, if not daily (other than Sunday and today), and we've developed a good professional rapport that I am satisfied with. This morning I was feeling a bit off though- I've enjoyed establishing something that has potential to be consistent over the next couple months, but also it was feeling suffocating. I'm looking forward to going to the "spa" with her this week (the non-sex kind), but also feeling a bit hemmed in by my developing habit and don't want to be in the position where I commit the category error discussed above.

It's at this moment that a garota previously discussed as frequenting Mabs Bar and Dolce Vita and who I believe that Rio Bob had the pleasure of working with, re-enters the picture with a zapp message that we should hang out as she's leaving to see her son tomorrow. We shall call this garota "Letitia". Like Lucrezia she is a mignon, very pretty, with a great attitude. I had previously declined her ententes because she does not allow leite na boca or na cara and that's one of my requirements. This despite finding her very hot and enjoyable to work with. I message back that I am interested but only if I can have leite no rosto. She makes a joke- why do I like cum on my face- but gives me a quote of 400 which is well above the 250 I previously enjoyed because its an "extra". I stand firm at 300 and she accepts after going down, down, and then finally meeting the bid. Like I said she needs the money to buy her son presents and I wasn't really into it unless I had this.

She came over and we had a great time as you can imagine. Leite no rosto for those who don't know means "milk on the face". And on the face it was, gentlemen. Now this is a garota I do have insta contact with (oh the "respect" and she told me that she saw a story I had posted that had pictured Lucrezia at the beach club and that made her jealous. I started talking a bit about Lucrezia and she says we should all three of us hang out and if it's not a "relationship" why should anyone get jealous? Ok, true- but I'm not sure it works that way. Once again, this is where all these lines begin to blur and the category errors are made. I do enjoy the thought of a threesome, but it would surely change everything and what's the point? Better to just develop one or two consistent working relationships with some side action and let sleeping dogs lie. She even suggested we go see Lucrezia at work which is both insane and expensive sounding. All of this is a moot point because she's leaving for Curitiba the day after next- but will return in a month.

One poignant moment worth relating- during our post-coital discussion I asked her which club, Mab's or DV she liked more and she replied "neither, I just go to them because I need to make money". Again- this is all business my dudes.

All this to say that I'm glad I got out of my mini monogamy rut and now see a clearer path forward. I'm attaching some photos that Letitia sent me although this is something I feel conflicted about. It seems like bragging at the expense of their privacy even though the identity is not obvious. I have photos of Lucrezia as well but will not be posting them as of yet.

Hopefully the rain clears and a fun week / end lies ahead.

Brasil Nut

06-01-21, 04:04

If you're the average tourist who stays in Copa, you owe it to yourself to take an uber to Olegario maciel 135.

This is Raval.

It is a bar which has hookah.

Across the street are several bars, including bar do adao, which is famous for a certain kind of crepe.

Next to bar do adao, is a little bar on an open air design. Here is where the best barravipsrio girls stay all night, smoking little has&h cigarettes with their dates or friends. It is as close to a upscale VM as you will find. It is an upscale Mabs. It is better than Mabs because it is really the hottest, best, prettiest women in Rio, as good or better than Leblon, which is the other real upscale girl area -- the little street with Boteca Belmonte.

IMHO, Copa is shit, merda, trash for tourists. If you want to swim in shit water from your toilet, the toilet which is 500 years of guanabara bay, then go to copa and swim. You won't die, but you will come out with a thin or a thick layer of shit depending on whether it is warmer or colder. If you want to swim in clear Atlantic ocean salt water which is healthy, then go to Olegario Maciel 135, and swim there. The water is superb, the scenery is the best in Rio in terms of the bunda. Down the street at Av Pepe 400 is the "yellow house" as the locals call it, IE, Perola Negra, the boate / terma which has the same talent as 4 x4, literally the same girls, I can quote for you two or more of the exact same girls.

Olegario Maciel is the uber local the Miami beach of Rio.

I feel like I have become the advocate for Barra, but in fact it was Safado 69 who first mentioned Transamerica, I only followed.

So there is my modest proposal. Save this address: Olegario maciel 135. The closest love motel is Motel Dunas. Look it up on the guiademoteis site. Transamerica is at Av Gastao Senges 395.

Paris Cafe is good too, it is down Av Americas at about Posto 9 or 10, but it is just a honky tonk bar in the middle of a big ass freeway..This is an all around solid post. The "she will go home and fuck a motoboy" made me literally laugh out loud. That's some real shit and it's things like that that made me stop giving a shit what these silly little girls think about me or much of anything else really. You can easily drive yourself crazy trying to understand a GDP and her thought process. I'm a player by nature so I've played the games from every angle and have to say the ROI just isn't there. I refuse to invest so much energy into the mental gymnastics ever again. Not PC but what's the saying? It's like winning the special Olympics, you won but you're still retarded. And I'm probably a jaded fuck but that goes for all women not just GDP's. I've noticed that non-pro pussy Is coveted here. Well I've gotten plenty and have gone full circle. I'd rather pay monetarily.

Anyway, VB1 gives out a lot of gems in this post. His insight is spot on. Olegario Maciel. That street takes me way back. There used to be a club called The Cat Walk on that street owned by a guy named Jeff. Super cool guy who used to hang at TA / Help in the mid 2000's. He had like 8 expensive foreign cars. Turns out he was major in the drug game in Europe. He ended up getting extradited to England and Spain I believe. You'd have to spend $1. 000 for a small table at Cat Walk but he'd always comp me. And his doorman would see me and bring me straight to the front of the line much to the dismay of the wealthy Brazilians waiting to get in. I must say I rather enjoyed that. Good times. Thanks for the update on the area. Might take a look although I don't really like being around the locals in Barra.

About the price debate. I understand both sides and don't have a problem with either. If you live in Rio or spend extended time and have street smarts, you aren't going to want to pay top dollar even if money is no object. It's just not congruent with being street smart. Plus if you're used to getting free pussy and have style and swag it's pretty degrading to pay any chick that much money. But if you're a tourist it makes sense since there is a firm time deadline. Totally different mindset. I like the fact that tourists essentially fortify the girls since it allows them to be more lenient with what they'll accept from me. If they depended on guys like me for rent and bills they'd be in trouble. So everybody has their place in the ecosystem. Live and let live, there's always a silver lining.

DiverOyster

06-01-21, 04:27

Vagabundo1

06-01-21, 04:55

I've been to Scandallo. The girls are not better than Miruna. It's in the middle of a urban sprawl with no end in sight. The clinicas like Miruna and in Brooklin and Ceci are the good values in SP. But SP is not RJ. SP is a megacity of 20 m and it has no beach. Miruna has porn stars on a regular basis, like Kamila Werneck a few years ago, or another Cindy Blueberry. The centro prives also have porn stars regularly, like Marcella Shultz.

The best terma in RJ is Perola Negra, precisely because it is on the beach. The talent in Perola Negra overlaps with 4 x 4, the girls go back and forth.

The last time I was in Perola Negra was with Mr E. We popped our heads in after having gone to VM, where we both sessioned. Mr. E used the Novo Canario hotel, thanks to good, useful information (in contrast to almost all the posts) from Sperto about the Novo Canario Hotel. VM is also the local of Mosaico, which again, IMHO, and based on 27 trips and a solid 14 months of being on the ground now, is a source of the best talent. You can session in Mosaico for 140. You can get a room at the Novo Canario for 50. The darkside termas and the prives are the source of quality in RJ, as Player 2 and 3 found, and as I am sticking to.

The problem with most of the posters recently is: A) they haven't even been to Brazil; B) they have 2 posts; C) they are making jokes about the eulogy of a fellow board member, reposting pictures and insulting the pictures which would dissuade people from posting, and they are only posting based on years old information.

To his credit, Mr. E has actually been here, repeatedly, and as Kipling said, "Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch.

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Xpartan

06-01-21, 05:51

Member #4729

06-01-21, 14:30

I think another reason is because it is an efficient operation so the girls can work more and make more money.Ah Germans- nothing if not efficient.

Jazzy Daddy

06-01-21, 17:22

That's the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!

In your setup, she likes the one who speaks Porto.

WyattEarp

06-01-21, 17:37

My trip is coming up soon and I'll be getting my PCR test to get ready. Here's the list I've compiled so far. Please let me know if I'm missing any "must try" locations. I did post this in the SP forum, thought I'd post here, too. This list is in the context of most of my time being in SP and 4 nights in Rio.

Rio

Solarium.

Termas 65.

Dolce vita.

Mabs.

Terma 65 (whiskeria 65) - close to 4 x4...With only four nights in Rio, I would cut down your termas list. I think most of us would advise against running around trying to hit all the major termas. Find a place where you like the vibe, the girls and enjoy yourself. I think 4 x 4 would be a great place to start. If you want to hit other Centro termas nearby, then fine you're in Centro. Solarium is good as well. Centaurus and Monte Carlo are more expensive, generally smaller and cater to tourists who don't want to bother leaving Copa and Ipanema. Save them for last if you need an easy, convenient session.

Perhaps checkout Vagabundo's recommended Perola Negra.

Member #4698

06-01-21, 17:39

In your setup, she likes the one who speaks Porto.Yes, without a doubt speaking the local lingo is a huge asset. Google translate is a remarkable innovation, but it is vastly inferior to being able to carry on a spontaneous conversation with a girl.

There are other little thought experiments we can play that come up with interesting results like:

A) imagine 2 American customers with similar looks, personalities, each able to speak Portuguese fluently, and each paying the same amount. Customer #1 can turn a girl on, and it takes him 45 minutes to reach orgasm. Customer #2 cums in under 3 minutes. Which customer do working girls prefer? It depends on the girl, but I imagine a lot of girls might prefer Customer #2. Does that surprise anyone?

B) imagine 2 American customers with similar looks, personalities, each able to speak Portuguese fluently, and each paying the same amount meet a girl for the first time in a Terma or bar. Customer #1 tells the girl he is an expat living and working in RJ. Customer #2 tells the girl he is a tourist who just arrived, and he is planning to spend 2 weeks in RJ. Which type of customer do working girls prefer. Again, the answer depends on the girl. Some girls will prefer the tourist because they think he will pay more. Some girls will prefer the expat because they see him as a possible long-term customer. It all depends.

So, what's my point? Well, nothing really except to say all kinds of people come to the P4P marketplace and no two people are the same. So, when 2 people come to a private arrangement it's between them and sometimes them and the bordello and it does not matter what anyone else thinks. Do what you like.

The Cane

06-01-21, 18:25

The last time I was in Perola Negra was with Mr E. We popped our heads in after having gone to VM, where we both sessioned. Mr. E used the Novo Canario hotel, thanks to good, useful information (in contrast to almost all the posts) from Sperto about the Novo Canario Hotel. VM is also the local of Mosaico, which again, IMHO, and based on 27 trips and a solid 14 months of being on the ground now, is a source of the best talent. You can session in Mosaico for 140. You can get a room at the Novo Canario for 50. To his credit, Mr. E has actually been here, repeatedly, and as Kipling said, "Or walk with Kingsnor lose the common touch.I would also note that the veteran monger Mr. E chose to relocate from Barra to Copa in favor of a hotel that I also like and recommend. The Astoria Palace:

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Rio Bob

06-01-21, 20:27

The best terma in RJ is Perola Negra, precisely because it is on the beach. The talent in Perola Negra overlaps with 4 x 4, the girls go back and forth.

.Interesting, I'm sure the address of this club is 400 praia do Pepe? If so it used to be called Club 400 and I used to go there on weekends when it turned into a swing club called Henri Club which was very good at the time. In close to 20 years there may have been 4 posts about Club 400 and all were bad don't waste your time, good to see someone has turned it around.

Same goes for Barra, in close to 20 years maybe there have been 5 posts of guys staying there because they were on business and never once gave it a good thumbs up for mongering, glad to see you've turned this around.

Member #4698

06-01-21, 20:53

I was at Perola Negra on a Saturday in early May from 20 h to around 21:45 h and it was DEAD. I spoke with 3 girls and their blond spokes girl (average face, but a troubled body) said the place gets lively later after midnight. I asked her, "you mean more customers and more girls" and she said yes. I have no reason to doubt her or Vagabundo's glowing reports. Some places are for late night and Perola Negra looked like it could be good. The bar area is large, there is a mini stage for a dancer or two, and the rooms upstairs are large. They just need to fill the place with more / better girls. But, I won't write the place off until I see what it is like after midnight.

But 8 pm on Saturday night is way too early for this bar. After seeing how dark and empty it was I should have ubered crosstown to Solarium, a friendly terma that I really like, but for some reason I stuck around and even bought a round of Tequilas for the 3 lonely girls and myself. Then I took the youngest one of the three, the only fuckable girl in the place at that time, a 20 year old mixed race girl, upstairs for a romp. She had great tits, an average face, and a big butt. Not my type and the sex was nothing to write home about. Oh well, it was totally my fault. I know better. LOL. I should have ubered.

In any case, when I left Perola Negra around 9:45 pm. It was still dead with only 5 plain girls around and 2 or 3 customers besides myself. I had 2 options: 1) salvage the night and head across town to 4 x4 or Solarium (my favorite) or 2) go get a big fat juicy steak. I opted for the big fat juicy steak. My normal lust and desire seemed to have deserted me on this particular night. The next night (Sunday night) I was on fire and I had one of my best sessions of the trip with one of my favorite repeat Barra VIP girls. We broke new ground that night as she decided to turn off her meter.

Vagabundo1

06-01-21, 22:26

Club Lonesome Dove Tuesdays. Ave de Pepe 400.

Yeah, MichaelSamuel and I rolled in wearing Vasco shirts (him)!

We are going to do Lonesome dove nights complete with a Veteran Country Band with some pyscho PTSD Iraq and Afghan Veterans drumming for Garth Brooks covers (or at least Garth Brooks radio on music. google.com), with all the girls dressed in leather biker chaps with butt plugs, and cowboy hats, can you fucking imagine how many cowboys there would be on the DFW to GIG flight every night after this Covid shit with rich world politicians fucking men up the ass with their silly strap on restrictions!

The Brazilians will sing country if there are dollar bills, and better yet Benjamin Franklins attached!

Interesting, I'm sure the address of this club is 400 praia do Pepe? If so it used to be called Club 400 and I used to go there on weekends when it turned into a swing club called Henri Club which was very good at the time. In close to 20 years there may have been 4 posts about Club 400 and all were bad don't waste your time, good to see someone has turned it around.

Same goes for Barra, in close to 20 years maybe there have been 5 posts of guys staying there because they were on business and never once gave it a good thumbs up for mongering, glad to see you've turned this around.

Vagabundo1

06-01-21, 22:49

Club Fifty Cent Wednesdays. Perola Negra, Ave de Pepe 400.

Nina Deponca Pernoite 300.

Thank you sir!

Nina Deponca, my personal sperm donor nurse is over for my nightly milking.

Yeah, that place has so much potential, now that metro moves people right there.

Wednesdays, we can have hip hop nights, which music the girls will be more down with. Indeed, all the headliners from Rock in Rio can come and take turns getting their balls licked.

We can press play on Hip Hop radio on those nights.

Look, all members of the board here, including el Cane my sometime foil, are greatly valued. We move on, and play some fifty cent, and shoot our frustrations up the tight anal rings of carioca butt sluts.

We watched the new Zawaadi scene -- Mandingoblack call your office!! Haha -- and now she is making moqueca, just like in a Jorge Amado novella, by the Atlantic.

Her father has / had covid. He is alright, god be thanked. Apparently onion in water along with garlic in water and other vegetables and a daily fruit smoothie in a blender are the way the man overcame.

Peaceout.

This is an all around solid post.

Vagabundo1

06-01-21, 22:51

Natasha Rios of bradmontana.

I have this little piece of bundinha lined up.

https://www.xvideos.com/video61921493/fodendo_com_a_morena_novata_natasha_rios_nos_bastidores_de_sua_cena_de_estreia_foda_amadora_sem_camisinha_com_vinny_burgos

So happy.

Vagabundo1

06-01-21, 22:57

That is correct sir.

Interesting, I'm sure the address of this club is 400 praia do Pepe? I.

Vagabundo1

06-01-21, 23:01

With 4 days, stay at IBIS and do Perola Negra, on Metro at Jardim Oceanico.

PN is in the shadow of IBIS, within rifle range, so you can easily get the girls to your room at IBIS from Perola Negra.

Ksportal (google it) has 50 r per noite lux suites, with all the amenities.

It is true Transamerica is a 3 d rate run down shit motel, but it is priced for aspiring working girls, and some of the landlords and administrators, I am sure will accept payment with a girls holes, as always.

Perhaps checkout Vagabundo's recommended Perola Negra.

TheDerilious

06-02-21, 00:02

The inflation argument would be done with a basket of goods. If the basket of goods has only gone up 20%, why would prostitution have gone up a whopping 500%? The USA has nothing to do with what is going on in Brazil. The average Brazilian male is not paying 1000 reais per night for a chick that would be in Mabs as a Mabs chick would attempt to charge a foreigner. The average salary of workers in Brazil matters because Brazilian men with Brazilian salaries are who their primary customers are. These men are not paying 1 month's salary to be with a chick the way some foreigners are coming along and paying that.

It is like locals have been fishing peacefully at a pond forever using fishing poles. Most foreigners will go down to the pond and fish the same way the locals are. Then comes a foreigner that decides he wants to fish with dynamite. Then another. Then another. Soon the locals change ponds and any other foreigner that comes to the old pond will have to bring dynamite or he is leaving fishless.Go look at PA, gparena, or any other "common man's" site if you want want you to understand prices. The vast majority of those prices are much lower than the 1000 are pernoite and substantially so. That is what the normal local man will use; just like the majority of Americans use Backpage (or equivalent) or some rub-and-tug massage joints for their escorting. Only a specific subset of wealthy men are using the higher priced options. There is a sizable upper crust in Brazil that does have the funds for that and it's not like every person in Brazil is some destitute bum with only 100 reais to his name. This is the same as every country in South America or SEA contrary to what some posters have mentioned here where Brazil is supposedly some sort of unique paradise of mongering where women like living in poverty and screwing strangers for baubles. Increased prices do heavily correlate.

Economics is not a bubble. Three major innovations have happened in the past 50 ish years to push prices up.

1) The vast growth of middle-class wealth in the developed world (US, China, EU, etc.) in contrast to the rest of the world has created even more disposable income for mongers to spend.

2) Global access to cheap travel that allows said mongers to spend their money. Flights, hotels, tourist economies, etc. Are much more ubiquitous than before. Just 30 years ago, it was much more expensive, complex, and confusing for people to travel somewhere. It used to require travel agencies to do all of that, or a very adventurous soul. Now, you can book flights, hotels, and itineraries in minutes, all in the language you understand because governments incentivize your dollars.

3) Internet and general mongering knowledge has increased. On the one hand, men are much more knowledgeable about traveling so they can engage more easily in the hobby. On the other hand, professional women can judge their worth on global scales, understand their "worth", and make decisions using that knowledge.

Your metaphor is missing an important point. The fish prefer getting blown up with dynamite rather than slowly killed by the fishing hook. So the smart and fast fish will take the best option available to them. The old and slow fish will continue to be available for all those who wish to do it the traditional way. I guess the argument many would make is that we should create closed off countries where the none of the fish ever learn about dynamite and so we can continue hooking them to death. But I argue that this is a stupid argument, economically and ethically. This is the kind of argument slavers made in the 1400's when they were "uplifting" African "savages" during colonization. Sure they were slaves or paid cents for a day's work, but at least we gave them running water right? They should be happy with that.

The literal presence of people like Vagabundo in Brazil has already broken the system and we act like it's only today's high rollers that have messed things up. Do you think the locals didn't notice when gringos started staying in Brazil for months on end spending 200 reais a night for prime bunda? Did you think the majority of the locals have the capability to pay 200 pernoite every night to pound 19 year olds? The way I see it and I'm not calling anyone out in particular (this is a common argument on local American boards as well), it feels like a lot of people get mad because they want the system broken; living or visiting areas where they can enjoy top-tier women at a price that the majority of the locals cannot afford. But, they want the system rigged so they don't have to compete with those who have more than them (everybody wants a Ferrari but ignores that Hyundai is great and fairly priced). Still, that's the best example of late stage capitalism that we are in right now, so it all makes sense. The funniest part is that I have never argued to spend 5 x market price or not search for bargains, yet the smallest indication that increased prices are not the sole responsibility of flippant morons making it rain causes a lot of heartache on this board.

Vagabundo1

06-02-21, 01:24

The Dude Abides.

https://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c

I have wasted my valuable sperm giving Nina Deponca a enema for the second time tonight, and have reached a state of total enlightenment.

I plead guilty, and throw my self at the mercy of the court.

I only want peace, peace for all humans, and living creatures, aliens too.

The literal presence of people like Vagabundo in Brazil has already broken the system and we act like it's only today's high rollers that have messed things up.

Vagabundo1

06-02-21, 01:42

If you come to Rio, you should stay at least a week, and stay in Barra and go to Perola negra on a Friday, and Saturday night.

It is true that our most prolific member, Mr E, came here to Barra, but he came on a Sunday night for 3 days. We hit Perola negra on a weekday night, a Tuesday or Wednesday, which was suboptimal.

good to see someone has turned it around.

Anaggie

06-02-21, 03:07

Go look at PA, gparena, or any other "common man's" site if you want want you to understand prices. The vast majority of those prices are much lower than the 1000 are pernoite and substantially so. That is what the normal local man will use; just like the majority of Americans use Backpage (or equivalent) or some rub-and-tug massage joints for their escorting. Only a specific subset of wealthy men are using the higher priced options. There is a sizable upper crust in Brazil that does have the funds for that and it's not like every person in Brazil is some destitute bum with only 100 reais to his name. This is the same as every country in South America or SEA contrary to what some posters have mentioned here where Brazil is supposedly some sort of unique paradise of mongering where women like living in poverty and screwing strangers for baubles. Increased prices do heavily correlate.

Economics is not a bubble. Three major innovations have happened in the past 50 ish years to push prices up.

1) The vast growth of middle-class wealth in the developed world (US, China, EU, etc.) in contrast to the rest of the world has created even more disposable income for mongers to spend.

2) Global access to cheap travel that allows said mongers to spend their money. Flights, hotels, tourist economies, etc. Are much more ubiquitous than before. Just 30 years ago, it was much more expensive, complex, and confusing for people to travel somewhere. It used to require travel agencies to do all of that, or a very adventurous soul. Now, you can book flights, hotels, and itineraries in minutes, all in the language you understand because governments incentivize your dollars.

3) Internet and general mongering knowledge has increased. On the one hand, men are much more knowledgeable about traveling so they can engage more easily in the hobby. On the other hand, professional women can judge their worth on global scales, understand their "worth", and make decisions using that knowledge.

Your metaphor is missing an important point. The fish prefer getting blown up with dynamite rather than slowly killed by the fishing hook. So the smart and fast fish will take the best option available to them. The old and slow fish will continue to be available for all those who wish to do it the traditional way. I guess the argument many would make is that we should create closed off countries where the none of the fish ever learn about dynamite and so we can continue hooking them to death. But I argue that this is a stupid argument, economically and ethically. This is the kind of argument slavers made in the 1400's when they were "uplifting" African "savages" during colonization. Sure they were slaves or paid cents for a day's work, but at least we gave them running water right? They should be happy with that.

The literal presence of people like Vagabundo in Brazil has already broken the system and we act like it's only today's high rollers that have messed things up. Do you think the locals didn't notice when gringos started staying in Brazil for months on end spending 200 reais a night for prime bunda? Did you think the majority of the locals have the capability to pay 200 pernoite every night to pound 19 year olds? The way I see it and I'm not calling anyone out in particular (this is a common argument on local American boards as well), it feels like a lot of people get mad because they want the system broken; living or visiting areas where they can enjoy top-tier women at a price that the majority of the locals cannot afford. But, they want the system rigged so they don't have to compete with those who have more than them (everybody wants a Ferrari but ignores that Hyundai is great and fairly priced). Still, that's the best example of late stage capitalism that we are in right now, so it all makes sense. The funniest part is that I have never argued to spend 5 x market price or not search for bargains, yet the smallest indication that increased prices are not the sole responsibility of flippant morons making it rain causes a lot of heartache on this board.Well said. I would compare this to my business. We sell some items to manufacturing companies and they pay a certain price for those items due to them being manufactures (or locals) and they buy in quantity. We also get the odd small or retail person who wants to do his own thing with our item (tourist or gringo). We charge them the retail (gringo) price which is at least 1. 5 x the manufacturer price. The manufacturers don't complain about the small person ruining the market for their product. They know that those guys cannot make a dent in the market due to quantity and production limitations. Same thing here. How would a few hundred or thousand tourist mongers drastically effect the market? There is now way the tourist number equal the local numbers. In the end, the girls get more from the tourists but keep the rate for locals because that is what the market dictates.

This would be like blaming the guy who pees in the ocean once for ocean pollution. If a member seeks out the best deal that can be had, let them. If a member seeks out what he thinks is fair for his wallet, let them. If a member seeks out a 10 every time and is willing to pay 10 x the price for that, let them.

Move on and enjoy the fact that all of us have the luxury to even do this.

Nounce

06-02-21, 05:09

Economics is not a bubble. Three major innovations have happened in the past 50 ish years to push prices up.I think you have not considered efficiency, supply and demand. You are also missing it goes both ways because not only the demand increases, there are more supply as well. One example is Medellin FB scene. The technology opens up a new supply that was not available before. Also China cracked down on prostitutions which reduced the supply in Asia significantly and that caused the price to go up elsewhere.

TheDerilious

06-02-21, 06:29

I think you have not considered efficiency, supply and demand. You are also missing it goes both ways because not only the demand increases, there are more supply as well. One example is Medellin FB scene. The technology opens up a new supply that was not available before. Also China cracked down on prostitutions which reduced the supply in Asia significantly and that caused the price to go up elsewhere.Sure, that is the miracle of technology that it has opened up many more destinations for the hobby. Supply has definitely increased all over the world and it seems like there is still a dearth of options considering how popular porn and online chat / videos are. The biggest issue lies in the fact that sex tourism is still tourism; people are expecting to pay money, save up for the trip, and don't feel the need to haggle over 5 USD as long as they feel they are getting decent prices. Longer term expats are effectively doing this at a longer time scale so they can spend the time searching for better prices but make no mistake that they are not haggling over the last 10 reais either when it comes down to it. They have the advantage of being able to hit up a few of the cheaper places looking for the good stuff, while that might be considered a bit of a waste of time for shorter term visitors who don't want to waste time jockeying up and down elevators in random buildings all day. I do think it is interesting that there appears to be a fine line on how penny pinching is perceived; in Thailand, our fellow Indian mongers are often looked down upon for these habits, yet mongers also can't spend too much without getting called market busters. It's a tough line, that's for sure.

I wonder how the rise of digital nomads in the coming decade or two will change that. Most tech companies are never going back to full-time in-office work so we will see a new generation of the global wealthy descend upon these cities and town for longer stretches as they seek to "experience" the world. It will be different because the majority of longer-term expats are usually retirees or older men who live on fixed incomes or have to budget their reserves. Now, you are going to see much larger influxes of younger men who will be making more than the retirees, will be much more willing to shell out, and have fewer budget restrictions. Hell, I look back and shudder at what I would have been spending had I been able to work remote in a place like Rio when I was 24 for a six months or a year.

A small note on the side; prostitution is huge in mainland China and very easy to find for ethnic Chinese. Agencies discretely but openly advertise on WeChat. But it is really difficult for any non-Chinese foreigner. You get the blatant racism of Japan's scene combined with the underground, anti-western attitudes of China which make it really hard to monger unless you flash extra cash to make the mama-sans look the other way. Even then, you are getting starfish'd for your trouble or picking the bottom of the barrel. Let's just say that my white friends got to learn what it's like to be forced to eat in the back of the restaurant. My Chinese friends got a special laugh out it.

SinfullyKorean

06-02-21, 06:58

I recommend you stay in Copa.

With 4 days, stay at IBIS and do Perola Negra, on Metro at Jardim Oceanico.

PN is in the shadow of IBIS, within rifle range, so you can easily get the girls to your room at IBIS from Perola Negra.

Ksportal (google it) has 50 r per noite lux suites, with all the amenities.

It is true Transamerica is a 3 d rate run down shit motel, but it is priced for aspiring working girls, and some of the landlords and administrators, I am sure will accept payment with a girls holes, as always.Based on your previous reply and many others' recommendations, I booked the Astoria Palace. But I will try and hit up Perola Negra during my short stay. I do have one question about it. Perola Negra translates to black pearl. Does this place mostly host dark skinned garotas?

The Cane

06-02-21, 12:23

Based on your previous reply and many others' recommendations, I booked the Astoria Palace. But I will try and hit up Perola Negra during my short stay. I do have one question about it. Perola Negra translates to black pearl. Does this place mostly host dark skinned garotas?The last time I was at Perola Negra (its been awhile), I don't recall there being any dark-skinned girls in the house. Of course, the nature of a lineup can change drastically in even a relatively short period of time. I went with a branca going by "Daniela". Fucked her in the butt, and it was good too. Cored that carioca cornhole out!

http://perolanegraclub.com.br/

Vagabundo1

06-02-21, 14:49

Perola Branca, Ave de pepe 400, Barra.

Foolish consistencies are the hobgoblins of little minds.

Perola Branca, and most of Barra is white girls.

Mandingoblack who gets paid to fuck on film ended up staying here at a KSPortal flat in Barra posto 1 near Olegario Maciel and Perola Branca.

Maybe I shoulda had more of the local talent primed for Mr E.

I will next time, at the Hotel California, in the California of Rio- Barra the Tijuca.

Plus, I was a bit concerned with Senhor Sinfully Korean due to his violatioon of forum rules (see his conversation with Sperto our expert on the SP thread), but he took those down, and in any case, I am not phobic of any LGBTQ+. I mean, I am strait up a fan of Caligula.

Plus I was off my meds, but my doctor with medical ganja has arrived, and I am serving a higher power again.

May we now praise famous men.

Vagabundo1

06-02-21, 15:58

If you want women in Rio, go to a Vasco futbol game with the owner of 4 x 4.

The futbol players though, get their girls at VM.

SAC.

Yossarian

06-02-21, 16:53

Yes, without a doubt speaking the local lingo is a huge asset. Google translate is a remarkable innovation, but it is vastly inferior to being able to carry on a spontaneous conversation with a girl.

There are other little thought experiments we can play that come up with interesting results like:

A) imagine 2 American customers with similar looks, personalities, each able to speak Portuguese fluently, and each paying the same amount. Customer #1 can turn a girl on, and it takes him 45 minutes to reach orgasm. Customer #2 cums in under 3 minutes. Which customer do working girls prefer? It depends on the girl, but I imagine a lot of girls might prefer Customer #2. Does that surprise anyone?

B) imagine 2 American customers with similar looks, personalities, each able to speak Portuguese fluently, and each paying the same amount meet a girl for the first time in a Terma or bar. Customer #1 tells the girl he is an expat living and working in RJ. Customer #2 tells the girl he is a tourist who just arrived, and he is planning to spend 2 weeks in RJ. Which type of customer do working girls prefer. Again, the answer depends on the girl. Some girls will prefer the tourist because they think he will pay more. Some girls will prefer the expat because they see him as a possible long-term customer. It all depends.

So, what's my point? Well, nothing really except to say all kinds of people come to the P4P marketplace and no two people are the same. So, when 2 people come to a private arrangement it's between them and sometimes them and the bordello and it does not matter what anyone else thinks. Do what you like.Well said Natty Bumpo. There is no one set way it always plays out. Got to remember, although we do have general rules of thumb here in the hobby, they are just that. General rules. The hobby, as are all human interactions, dynamic and can change depending on the participants and the situation.

Lalabo

06-03-21, 03:47

I flew into SP on Saturday (5/22) and next day took a bus to get to Rio. Why bus? I made a mistake of not booking flight in advance to get cheaper fare as I wasn't certain that I would make the trip. The flights were very expensive; the fare were around 300 US and climbed over 400 US close to my travel date. I didn't want to pay those high prices so I booked a bed on a 1001 bus for 130 BR and got to Rio in 6 hours (double the air travel). I think bus is a good option to travel between SP and Rio and I plan to use it in future.

I initially planned 2 nights but extended it by 4 nights after my disappointing visit to Scandallo on Saturday. I have visited 5 termas and liked Solarium the most because it had most consistently good looking girls during all my visits. I was able to use my free time more effectively in Rio than in SP by going to various beaches and visited popular tourist spots. I like Rio and I plan to visit soon.

4 x4:

My first terma. Entry fee was 50 BR. Lineup was bad on Monday with 15+ girls, none of them good looking, and I left after spending half hour or so.

My next visit was on Wednesday and the lineup was much better. I sessioned with Lorena, a 22 yo girl with tight body with amazing deepthroating skills. She voluntarily deepthroated a lot which I liked. I came back on Thursday but left quickly as I didn't see any new girls.

Solarium:

My second terma and the best. This may be the smallest of the termas that I have visited but it had the consistently best looking girls. I have it a total of 4 times: on Monday after visiting 4 x4, Tuesday, Thrusday and Friday. Entry is 120 BR + aprox 500 BR for girl and room. Lineup was great with 20+ girls on the days I have visited and most of them were young and petite. I sessioned 4 girls and all of them were great. One of the girls did anal, another one did anal and CIM, and another did CIM. Hands down the best terma for me this trip.

Monte Carlo:

My third terma and the worst. I visited it on Tuesday at around 5:30 pm. They had about 10 girls and not even one decent looking one. There was not much to do so I used sauna for an half hour and left the club within an hour. 120 BR entrance fee for the lineup they had felt like highway robbery.

Terma 65:

My fourth terma. One of the guys I met in Solarium recommended visiting this terma. Definitely worth checking out if you are in the area visiting other termas like 4 x4. I visited it twice, first visit was on Wednesday and then on Thursday. Entrance is 70 BR and 235 BR for girl for half hour.

On Wednesday I entered the club at around 8 pm and it was packed with 50+ girls and lot of men. Everyone was dancing to the earsplittingly loud music. For a moment I thought I was in a dance club. I grabbed a drink and started looking for hotties but found none. All of them were with these 2 groups of guys with bottle service on their tables. One hottie in particular was very gorgeous with amazing Brazilian butt. In case any of you were there on that night, she wore a tight cheetah print skirt (I will refer her as cheetah girl). I knew the cheetah girl and other hotties are not going to let go by the 2 group. Rest of the girls in the club seemed to be more focused on dancing, drinking and having a good time rather than getting with men. As I was pondering my options, this one guy started booty shaking / popping dance (lets call him booty popper) in front the table I was sitting at. I have seen girls dance like that but never seen an guy do it. I guess that's his kink. I admit he danced way better than lot of girls. To add to the craziness, 2 young guys walked in to the club way overdressed in suits as if they were interviewing at one of the big wallstreet banks. In fact, the girl sitting next to me did interview them. She started with an easy question. Are you good with numbers? Both answered 'yes' confidently. Next she asked, how many parking spots she has for their wangs? She warned them that is a trick question but they ignored. Two, both answered in unison. She smiled and told them to do research on internets and return to the club with correct answer next day. I really hope they found the answer. LOL. My eavesdropping on the interview was interrupted by the booty popper. This time he brought a girl and both did the booty popping dance, this time more vigorously. It felt like he was daring me but I wasn't falling for that. I screamed, no way Jose but music was so loud no one heard me. Anyway, once it was clear that none of the hotties going to be released by those 2 groups I picked one of the better looking leftovers and ended the night happy.

I really enjoyed my first visit even tough I didn't get the opportunity to bang some of the hotties that were present. This terma had the most girls and different vibe than other termas I have visited. I am not sure why this club is not talked about more in this thread.

I have visited the club on Thursday hoping to catch some of the hotties I saw the previous day especially the cheetah girl. Unfortunately most of them didn't make an appearance. I saw couple of them but they were already snatched by a group with bottle service, obviously. It is very clear one needs a bottle service to attract hotties in this terma. Next time I visit this club I plan to order an expensive bottle service to lure them to me. I know, initially it would look weird, strange and silly to have one person with bottle service, but who cares as long as you lure the hotties. Based on what I have observed in this terma, hotties love booze and they go to whoever provides lots of it and expensive the better. Unfortunately, my plan rollout has to wait until next trip.

Centaurus:

My fifth terma. I went to the club at 7:30 pm on Friday expecting lots of girls and men to be there. Entrance is 140 BR. Unlike other termas the entrance has to be prepaid here. This club has the newest and nicest facilities of all the termas I had visited. It also has the biggest lounge. There were about 10+ girls with couple of good looking ones. I was the only man in there. Couple of girls came an talk to be but I wasn't interested in them. It was hard to get rid of them. I left the club and went to Solarium after drinking a free beer that was included with entrance.

It was strange to see this club had no customers on Friday night situated in a prime location with best facilities. It is a shame they ruined their reputation being greedy and treating customers like ATM machines. This may be one of those clubs that totally relies on tourists and probably waiting for pandemic to end.

Termas vs FKKs:

Termas are very similar to German / European FKKs in concept but at a much smaller in size and scale. Termas have all the FKK elements like girls, bar and sauna except a restaurant. In termas, you have the option of staying in your street cloths or wear a robe whereas in FKKs you have an option of wearing a robe or towel. In FKKs, entrance usually include food and soft drinks and in some cases alcohol. In termas, you have to pay for all the drinks.

Additional thoughts:

Terma lounges are very small (except Centaurus) and get crowded very quickly. Each terma has a set price for girls that covers all the services provided including anal, CIM or whatever else. There is no concept of extras like you have in SP boetes and clinicas, or FKKs, or lots other places. Not all girls provide extras so you better discuss prior to the session. 3 of the 6 girls I sessioned did anal and 2 did CIM.

Mr Enternational

06-03-21, 04:39

I booked a bed on a 1001 bus for 130 BR and got to Rio in 6 hours (double the air travel). I think bus is a good option to travel between SP and Rio and I plan to use it in future.Air travel between Sao Paulo and Rio is 50 minutes (not 3 hours) and you can buy a ticket as low as 150 reais beforehand. On April 21 I bought one for May 6 and it was $31.88

DiverOyster

06-03-21, 05:21

If you want women in Rio, go to a Vasco futbol game with the owner of 4 x 4.

The futbol players though, get their girls at VM.

SAC.What is VM?

SinfullyKorean

06-03-21, 07:16

Mr Enternational

06-03-21, 09:24

Lalabo probably means the time to get to the airport (bus station's probably closer), the time you got to wait at the airport (probably 1. 5 hrs before flight) and travel time. 30 min to airport, 1. 5 hrs waiting, 1 HR flight is 3 hrs.
Brazil is not the USA. If you check in online, you can get to the airport 20 minutes before the flight and make it through security on time.

The Cane

06-03-21, 09:30

Centaurus:

My fifth terma. I went to the club at 7:30 pm on Friday expecting lots of girls and men to be there. Entrance is 140 BR. Unlike other termas the entrance has to be prepaid here. This club has the newest and nicest facilities of all the termas I had visited. It also has the biggest lounge. There were about 10+ girls with couple of good looking ones. I was the only man in there. Couple of girls came an talk to be but I wasn't interested in them. It was hard to get rid of them. I left the club and went to Solarium after drinking a free beer that was included with entrance.

It was strange to see this club had no customers on Friday night situated in a prime location with best facilities. It is a shame they ruined their reputation being greedy and treating customers like ATM machines. This may be one of those clubs that totally relies on tourists and probably waiting for pandemic to end.Nice report Lalabo! Anybody who read my report from the last time I was at Centaurus will know that I had the exact same experience as you. I was the only customer on a Friday or Saturday night, with maybe about 15 or so girls present. What a great fall off from where Centaurus used to be! And that was in September 2019 before we got hit with the pandemic wave. I think it was the monger who goes by "VilaMimosa" who said "the thrill is gone".

Yes, lots of tourists used to go to Centaurus, including Justin Bieber LOL! But, plenty of well-heeled Brazilians would visit the place as well. The pics are of "Polly" from better times. I really wanted to bugger that pretty branca in the butt hole, but she talked so damn much that she broke my concentration! I pushed her ass cheeks together like a giant hot dog bun and rubbed my weiner off in between her cheeks until I spermed inside of her crack.

Vagabundo1

06-03-21, 13:05

I think I will hit solarium and 65 again.

Thanks for a good report.

I flew into SP on Saturday (5/22) and next day took a bus to get to Rio. Why bus? I made a mistake of not booking flight in advance to get cheaper fare as I wasn't certain that I would make the trip. The flights were very expensive; the fare were around 300 US and climbed over 400 US close to my travel date. I didn't want to pay those high prices so I booked a bed on a 1001 bus for 130 BR and got to Rio in 6 hours (double the air travel). I think bus is a good option to travel between SP and Rio and I plan to use it in future.

I initially planned 2 nights but extended it by 4 nights after my disappointing visit to Scandallo on Saturday. I have visited 5 termas and liked Solarium the most because it had most consistently good looking girls during all my visits. I was able to use my free time more effectively in Rio than in SP by going to various beaches and visited popular tourist spots. I like Rio and I plan to visit soon..

Lalabo

06-03-21, 13:25

Air travel between Sao Paulo and Rio is 50 minutes (not 3 hours) and you can buy a ticket as low as 150 reais beforehand. On April 21 I bought one for May 6 and it was $31.8850 minutes is flight time which doesn't include taxiing time in both airports. I don't think you can get to airport at the last minute before departure and expect to be onboard.

You have to be at the airport in advance to check your bag in, go through security and to complete whatever other process airport might have. In USA, it is recommended to arrive at least 1. 5 hours before departure and that time is increased to 2 hours because of covid. I understand you could get to airport 45 minutes or less before departure and still catch the plane but that depends on how busy the airport is at that particular time. You could get to the airport less than 30 min before departure if the airport is very small with only few departures and landings a day, like Islay, Scotland for example. Having never flown from CGH I personally would go there way in advance so I could check my bag and get through the security even if there are long lines. I would have gone to CGH at least 1 to 1. 5 hours before departure and I add about 30 minutes at destination for deplaning and picking up bags (yes, at smaller airports you get your bags quicker). If you add all of that and taxiing times, you would get 2. 5 to 3 hours.

I have not included the time it take one to get to airport or bus station because that varies depending on where ones starting point is (home / hotel etc.).

About fares.

Ideally, I should have booked refundable ticket way in advance which would have been way cheaper than paying $300+ at the last minute but unfortunately I didn't. Because of COVID test (PCR for travelling to Brazil taken with in 72 hours of departure) requirement there is no certainty of making the flight up until a day before departure, by that time the fares have skyrocket to $400+ especially on 5/20 and 5/21.

Take a look at the screen shot of fares for travelling in a day or 2. As I said the fares skyrocket for some reason during 20th or May for immediate travel.

Bus is a viable and cheaper option if anyone gets into the situation I got in.

Lalabo

06-03-21, 14:04

Awesome report! Thanks for the info. I'll make good use of it. Sounds like Scandallo is very hit or miss. Did you not check out Abbobora or Prime in SP? I've bumped up T65 and Solarium up on my list. Centaurus down to bottom.
I always checkout Prime when I am in Moemo, SP. I visited it on 22,29 and 30 of May and sessioned during each of those visits. Prime always had decent / good looking girls so I never had to walk past it to go to Abbobora. All the girls I have session at Prime provided great service and the place is a fantastic value.

300-400 USD (one way OR round trip) doesn't sound right. Maybe it was right around that time (5/22) that flights were super expensive. I remember I was looking at flights a couple weeks ago and it went up a lot. But not to $300-400, especially one way. This weekend, OW flights on Sat are $72 and Sun are $50. Much cheaper if you're booking a month in advance. But these prices seem to fluctuate a lot.

$25 RT: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...orts&p=2557221#post2557221.

Lalabo probably means the time to get to the airport (bus station's probably closer), the time you got to wait at the airport (probably 1. 5 hrs before flight) and travel time. 30 min to airport, 1. 5 hrs waiting, 1 HR flight is 3 hrs.

Yes, it was around 5/20 when fares shot up crazy. And yes, my math of 3 hours included all that except time spent getting to airport which varies person to person.

Vagabundo1

06-03-21, 14:22

I had Ana foxxx, a 19 yo negra, no kids, bare, over pernoite 300. Long and expensive taxi, but worth it. No porn. She smokes ganja now. Not even any lube, long good bang at night and in the morning.

Woke up to a clear blue horizon on the Atlantic after a hour of fucking, admiring the blue line of the ocean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE47ARAFNEQ

Riding back from bem zona norte, last night, the words of a Chris Isaak song came to me.

In the heat of the jungle, in the heat of the night.

Sat an African princess in the pale moonlight.

Saying go bobalua, go baby go.

I love you, I love, you, goodnight.

I go hide in the jungle, and I dance til' I drop.

With an African princess and nope I don't stop.

I watch tv til' midnight I do.

Just what I please, I love you, I love you, goodnight.

In the heat of the jungle, in the heat of the night.

Sat an African princess in the pale moonlight.

Saying go bobalua, go baby go.

I love you, I love, you, goodnight.

Hey. Ohh. Just gets crazy from here!

Member #4698

06-03-21, 14:37

Brazil is definitely not the USA. If you check in online, you can get to the airport 20 minutes before the flight and make it through security on time.You are right. Brazil is not the USA. But I would suggest that all flyers should be aware of the boarding time of their flights.

I flew GOL from RJ to SP and back to RJ. Boarding time was approximately 45 minutes before the listed departure time of my 2 flights. It is shown on the electronic ticket and it should be noted that boarding time is the critical time to look out for because on both of my flights the stewardess performed a head count of passengers on the plane and when it was confirmed that all ticketed customers were onboard, they closed the doors and the plane took off 15 minutes ahead of its scheduled time of departure. I liked that. Only in Brazil. LOL. So, GOL is my kind of airlines and early departure means early arrival. But I would advise all those flying GOL to get to the airport before boarding time IE 45 minutes before the scheduled departure time. If you play it too close you might get burned.

Turgid

06-03-21, 14:42

... I went with a branca going by "Daniela". Fucked her in the butt, and it was good too. Cored that carioca cornhole out!

Now that's what I'm talking about.

Vagabundo1

06-03-21, 14:59

The Yellow House.

Ave de Pepe 400.

The locals call it the yellow house. It is stocked with the best for the royalty. There is the doe eyed mineira morena, 19. There is the branca, a Seka from Minas too, who is the same one who was taken out of 4 x4 for 1000 pernoite and had a red rash on her ass and left at 2 AM. There is the morena from Campo Grande, perhaps the prettiest, 19, a falsa magra. There is a Colombiana, a fireball, the best dancer, non 19, but not 29 yet, with rainbow shades in her eyebrows, or hairline, a classic Colombian morena. You can swim steps from Perola Negra, out the door, across the road, in 20 yards, down from the Grupo Maritimo station. You could take a boat to the ocean, to a mothership, to anywhere in the world, to South La Jolla, to Key West, to Cannes in France, or Cannes in Australia, to Hamburg, to Amsterdam, where the tobacco I buy to mix with Hs*&h comes from, to Dingle, Ireland, or Boston, Massachusetts, to Norfolk, or to some particular harbor south by south west of Key West, between rounds of fucking the four women above, a 12 hole afternoon, probably best handled by two duplas for a few hours, and then another dupla, and then another dupla, but with a different pair than the first.

Indeed it sounds like a fine idea, all of the above. All you need is a spy that loves you.

Mr Enternational

06-03-21, 15:01

Take a look at the screen shot of fares for travelling in a day or 2. As I said the fares skyrocket for some reason during 20th or May for immediate travel.I see what you mean. It appears that you are looking at an amalgamated site. I don't know if you tried looking at each airline's website individually. There may have been some fares and flights that were not listed on the combined site. I always buy direct from the company site. I was surprised to see Azul the most expensive on the screenshot, because it is usally the cheapest option.

Member #4729

06-03-21, 15:24

I finally got around to checking out a couple of termas on Wednesday night after a pernoite with Lucrezia and moving into my newest airbb in Ipanema, which I like the most and will hopefully stay through July. Copacabana is just too chaotic for me.

When people say that traffic is bad around the Lagoa at rush hour, it's true and I discovered this on my uber to Solarium, which took way too long. In the future I will go there very early. The club itself: clean, well lit (too bright in my opinion), and pretty small. At around 8 pm it was filled to capacity with about 12 guys and 25-30 girls. All they guys were sitting down either with bottle service or a garota, and the girls stood on the other side looking sort of bored but also hot and bothered.

On my way out that night I had messaged Letitia as a back up plan. She missed her flight home and then said now she is going to stay through all of June, which doesn't really make much sense, but ok. Anyways, she was down so I measured all the girls there against a potential visit with her. The girls were attractive, lots of branca's but nothing really made me want to bust a move. The atmosphere here is a little bit unnerving- its crowded, bright, and difficult to really relax. Still, I see potential to find something I like and I will return. I think I ended up paying the door, plus a beer, which was 150 ish.

Quatro x Quatro is an interesting, labyrinthine space, mongers taller than 6 ft will find themselves bumping their heads on passage doors, etc. I didn't entirely get a sense of the space- is there another club attached to it that I missed? Is that Whiskeria 65? Terma 65? Can anyone enlighten? Anyways, the vibe here was much better than Solarium. Gentleman, if you like big booty, this place is like some weird island Odysseus discovers on his way home from Troy full of nothing but Hottentot Venuses wandering lazily though the dunes. The incoming monger TiaVoyager will want to start here- the brancas are in abundance. That being said, I, myself, am not a fan of the bunda grande, so the pickings were not as enticing for me. A couple of friendly girls almost pushed me over the edge- I found myself being approached here more than solarium- but again still comparing to the Letitia option.

I think the damage was 80+ 2 beers. Not bad for just a looky-loo. Once in the uber I messaged Letitia and she arrived at the arbnb shortly after I did. The sex we had was mind blowing- the best I've had yet this trip. Now that I've trained her to do COF, I can really get into it and have a good time, and I could tell that she was really into it too. I think she's trying to lure me away from Lucrezia- and it's sort of working.

A note about terma girls and the pernoite. One of the accepted practices here is the recommendation of hiring terma girls for pernoite after their shifts and this is something I've been doing regularly with Lucrezia. It get's old fast. You have to wait around until late at night to get it (I hate waiting, hate it), she's always going to be late, and then when she is late you look on her zap and see she's off-line which means she's getting railed hard by some other dude in the cabine. So when she finally shows up, she's tired, been fucked multiple times already, and not necessarily going to give you a top performance. With a regular this becomes even more pronounced because she knows you're going to have some sympathy. It's just not a sexy vibe. The best sex in that scenario is going to be the wake up sex- but even then you can't just throttle a girl awake and expect her to be lubricated and ready for your morning wood. The whole scenario is wrought with difficulty. It's better to hang out with a terma girl on her day off. With a freelancer you can set the hours more flexible- but quality feelancers are hard to find. It's a tough nut to crack.

I've got a two-women harem that is filling my needs for the moment, so as long as that holds I'm going to hang out in Ipanema for the next month and leisurely dip into the termas and prives. Still not sure how I feel about the prives, if any incoming mongers want to hook up and explorandamos, hit me up.

Lalabo

06-03-21, 16:28

I see what you mean. It appears that you are looking at an amalgamated site. I don't know if you tried looking at each airline's website individually. There may have been some fares and flights that were not listed on the combined site. I always buy direct from the company site. I was surprised to see Azul the most expensive on the screenshot, because it is usally the cheapest option.I did check GOL and LATAM sites during that time and they showed the same prices as expedia. It is possible inflated prices shown when their websites are accessed from US.

Mr Enternational

06-03-21, 17:24

Quatro x Quatro is an interesting, labyrinthine space, mongers taller than 6 ft will find themselves bumping their heads on passage doors, etc. I didn't entirely get a sense of the space- is there another club attached to it that I missed? Is that Whiskeria 65? Terma 65? Can anyone enlighten?That would be Wiskeria 4 by 4 (anybody know why it is spelled 2 different ways?) You can access it from outside, the door next to the one you entered. Or you can access it from inside the boite where you were sitting by just walking down the steps. There used to be a pole the girls would slide down, but they installed the steps and took the pole out.

65 is down the street and around the corner. Rua do Rosario 65.

Lalabo

06-03-21, 17:29

I forgot to mentioned in the report I posted yesterday that I did visit Mabs and Dolce Vita on the last night I was in Rio. They both are interesting and fun places and one should definitely check them out. I don't think they for me because it is too risky and lot of things can go wrong if you pick a girl from there. If you are talented in picking the right girl from there then go for it but I am not that talented. I rather arrange a terma girl I have been with to see me outside rather than taking chances at Mabs and DV.

I felt safe walking Copacabana, Ipenema and Leblon beaches and on the roads and sidewalk closer to the beach day and night. I have seen some sketchy people and places here and there but you just have to be alert and avoid them.

I felt safe walking from 4 x4 to Terma 65 and vice versa but I am not sure I would wander around nearby narrow alleys at night. As they say, if you go looking for trouble, it will find you.

Lalabo

06-03-21, 17:37

Quatro x Quatro is an interesting, labyrinthine space, mongers taller than 6 ft will find themselves bumping their heads on passage doors, etc. I didn't entirely get a sense of the space- is there another club attached to it that I missed? Is that Whiskeria 65? Terma 65? Can anyone enlighten? As for as I can tell based on my recent visits 4 x4, Quatro por Quatro and Whiskeria Quatro por Quatro are all same establishment. Terma 65 and Whiskeria 64 is one and the same. Both the clubs are very close like less than 2mins walk from each other,.

CkNice11

06-03-21, 18:08

Just returned from a 7 day trip my first time in Rio de Janeiro. Before I start I just want to thank the brothers who have me tips and advice before I went. You made my trip easier and I appreciate it. Brazil is my new favorite destination easily after this trip. I went with my 2 brothers and we did a combination of a lot of termas and freelance women. One of the major cons of Rio is that's not discussed enough is the pickpocketing. That shit is really bad and some tranny's got my brother for his phone on the walk. He told them to go away and they came up on him grabbing him and trying to rub him. In the mist of him trying to avoid them they got his phone and it felt like they vanished in thin air.

Also I highly recommend Ubers instead of cabs. They are a lot safer and a lot cheaper. I'm a fan of mucho bunda so I instantly fell in love with 4 x4. It sucks they closed on weekends which was weird to me but I went everyday except the days they were closed LOL. Monte Carlo was my second favorite. I don't get the hype for Centaurus. It was way overpriced and none of the women were beautiful in my opinion.

Mabs was a really good spot to but it's hit or miss on the women. Each day I was there I learned something new so my next trip will be even better. I won't do another hotel though cause they be tripping on guest and I don't have time for someone to tell me who can and can't come to my room.

All the fellow American brothers I met were cool especially a older guy who stayed in my room told me he was 63 yet rockstars wish they smashed like him LOL. Every time I seen him in the club he was with 2 or 3 women. Casablanca was my go to night spot for partying. American music and Brazil music mixed and some pretty decent looking chicas. All and all I had an amazing time and I have Brazil ranked over the Dominican and Tijuana despite the long flight.

SinfullyKorean

06-03-21, 18:23

I see what you mean. It appears that you are looking at an amalgamated site. I don't know if you tried looking at each airline's website individually. There may have been some fares and flights that were not listed on the combined site. I always buy direct from the company site. I was surprised to see Azul the most expensive on the screenshot, because it is usally the cheapest option.

I did check GOL and LATAM sites during that time and they showed the same prices as expedia. It is possible inflated prices shown when their websites are accessed from US.There was something really weird going on a couple weeks ago when the flight prices shot up like crazy. It was just over the span of a few days and prices came back down again. Lesson learned is book flights in advance. :D

Vagabundo1

06-03-21, 18:49

The staff including mc and towelboy, who lives at Transamerica, go back and forth.

Me I want to live where the towelboy lives.

As for as I can tell based on my recent visits 4 x4, Quatro por Quatro and Whiskeria Quatro por Quatro are all same establishment. Terma 65 and Whiskeria 64 is one and the same. Both the clubs are very close like less than 2mins walk from each other,.

TiaVoyage25

06-03-21, 19:41

…..The incoming monger TiaVoyager will want to start here- the brancas are in abundance.My man, I love this report. Let's get a bottle at 4 x 4 on me. I'll be on ground this weekend.

Xpartan

06-03-21, 19:56

Brazil is not the USA. If you check in online, you can get to the airport 20 minutes before the flight and make it through security on time.You can't be serious, a worldly traveler like yourself. So many things can go to shit at any given moment, especially at a clusterfuck AKA GRU. I would never ever push it that close. I've felt pushing it when getting to airports 1-hour before the flight, let alone 20 minutes.

Mr Enternational

06-03-21, 20:22

You can't be serious, a worldly traveler like yourself. So many things can go to shit at any given moment, especially at a clusterfuck AKA GRU. I would never ever push it that close. I've felt pushing it when getting to airports 1-hour before the flight, let alone 20 minutes.I leave Copacabana in an Uber 1 hour before my flight at Santos Dumont. I do not check a bag in. Last month I still had time to visit the lounge and have a drink of tea before I got on the plane. The point I was trying to make is that the security lines at the airports in Brazil are not long like they are in the USA. For the most part you are walking right up to the machine. Now if you have to go check in at the counter and check bags in it will be a different story.

WyattEarp

06-03-21, 20:26

I leave Copacabana in an Uber 1 hour before my flight at Santos Dumont. I do not check a bag in. Last month I still had time to visit the lounge and have a drink of tea before I got on the plane. The point I was trying to make is that the security lines at the airports in Brazil are not long like they are in the USA. For the most part you are walking right up to the machine. Now if you have to go check in at the counter and check bags in it will be a different story.Well yes, Santos Dumont is a joy compared to GIG and GRU.

TheBMan

06-03-21, 21:48

The Cane

06-03-21, 23:01

OK so don't give me too much shit LOL I started reading back at page 75 and I'm up to page 40. Lots of great info for my upcoming trip although ridiculously confusing with all the cryptic abbreviations. Anyways. Here's on thing I'm unclear on. When you grab a girl for an hour or so at a massage parlor which I'm guessing is the same as a terma / prive? Is that price for one pop only?All Brazilian girls I have been with over the years have encouraged me to nut as many times as I want to and am able to within whatever time we agreed upon. But, I must note that I don't do the prives and massage places in Rio, nor Vila Mimosa, so somebody with direct experience in those places can better address this with respect to them.

Member #4729

06-04-21, 00:09

My man, I love this report. Let's get a bottle at 4 x 4 on me. I'll be on ground this weekend.Don't have to say it twice, name the time, I'm there. PM for the WhatsApp.

CkNice11

06-04-21, 00:16

MiamiBoy1

06-04-21, 03:47

Don't have to say it twice, name the time, I'm there. PM for the WhatsApp.I will join).

Mr Enternational

06-04-21, 04:00

Well yes, Santos Dumont is a joy compared to GIG and GRU.It is the same thing at those airports whenever I fly out on domestic and even international flights. Scan my boarding pass at the turnstyle and walk right around to the xray machine. It is not like the USA where you are waiting 30 minutes or 1 hour in a security line. Only thing that sux is that at the international airports of Sao Paulo and Rio they make you walk through a fucking shopping mall to get to your gate when you are leaving the country. Who the fuck has time for that.

Mr Enternational

06-04-21, 04:12

One of the major cons of Rio is that's not discussed enough is the pickpocketing. That shit is really bad and some tranny's got my brother for his phone on the walk. He told them to go away and they came up on him grabbing him and trying to rub him. In the mist of him trying to avoid them they got his phone and it felt like they vanished in thin air.That is streetwise 101. I thought it went without saying, but I guess it does not. Never let anyone get up on you. And if they do, then keep your hands in your pockets. A lot of times I wear pants or shorts where the pockets either zip or button up. I think you miswrote. They were never trying to rub him. They were actually trying to rob him and they succeeded.

I'm a fan of mucho bunda so I instantly fell in love with 4 x4. It sucks they closed on weekends which was weird to meWell downtown is pretty much closed on the weekend and 4 X4 mainly caters to business guys that more than likely have families. Same as I was reading in the SP thread someone said a chick told them the biggest night at Scandallo was Thursday because most of the clients have to be home with family on the weekends.

I have Brazil ranked over the Dominican and Tijuana despite the long flight.LOL. You can't convince guys that only go to either of those 2 places that. They make every excuse not to broaden their horizons.

Rio Bob

06-04-21, 15:21

So I had a date with a girl I met in DV to go to dinner and 2 A2 swing club. I was texting her during the day and no response so I figured she changed her mind. No big deal so many things to do anyway. So late afternoon I decide to get a girl from barra vip that I mentioned before, natural blonde Polish descent, beautiful. After I finished her my girlf from DV finally responds and says yes let's go out and have a good time tonight, I'm like now I don't know, I'm tired and may stay in, she says come on lets party. I told her let me take a 2 hour nap and I'll let you know. I wake up 2 hours later and say let's go and have fun.

We go to Carretao churrascaria at Praca de Lido which was pretty good and at the end they give you a shot of cachaca and we were on our way to 2 A2. There were a few young beautiful girls there, one couple I spoke to she was a Lieutenant in the Navy and was wearing this sheer blouse with her breasts fully exposed, she was so hot, I wanted to catch her upstairs but couldn't. This girl I was with was 23 years old so young and hot, I grabbed a lot of tits and hot wet bucetta and just swapped with one couple in comparison with the 38 year old I brought the week before swapped with 3 couples.

So after we left 2 A2 she wanted to go to Dolce Vita to dance LOL but inside she ran into a young friend and asked me if I like her I said sure. We all danced then went up to my place and banged the new girl, we were all on my balcony naked, dancing, drinking, smoking, having fun. love Rio!

Rio Bob

06-04-21, 15:47

J One of the major cons of Rio is that's not discussed enough is the pickpocketing. That shit is really bad and some tranny's got my brother for his phone on the walk. He told them to go away and they came up on him grabbing him and trying to rub him. In the mist of him trying to avoid them they got his phone and it felt like they vanished in thin air.

Guys should get a couple of pairs of pick pocket proof pants for peace of mind, I usually wear them through the airport and the swing clubs cause things tend to fall out of your pockets with your pants down. If I'm going to just a club I wear jeans but leave my phone at home, not needed, for the extra few dollars I'll take a regular taxi and keep my phone safe.

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Sperto

06-04-21, 16:07

We go to Carretao churrascaria at Praca de Lido which was pretty good and at the end they give you a shot of cachaca and we were on our way to 2 A2.That was impressive, going to a swingers club after visiting a churrascaria. I usually end up feeling full after visiting a churrascaria (I love good meat) and the last thing I would desire would be group sex.
Your balcony is Pestana beachfront?

Hargow20

06-04-21, 16:56

I always carry my wallet and phone in my front pocket. I got a lanyard for my phone. This way I don't misplace the phone.

Just returned from a 7 day trip my first time in Rio de Janeiro. Before I start I just want to thank the brothers who have me tips and advice before I went. You made my trip easier and I appreciate it. Brazil is my new favorite destination easily after this trip. I went with my 2 brothers and we did a combination of a lot of termas and freelance women. One of the major cons of Rio is that's not discussed enough is the pickpocketing. That shit is really bad and some tranny's got my brother for his phone on the walk. He told them to go away and they came up on him grabbing him and trying to rub him. In the mist of him trying to avoid them they got his phone and it felt like they vanished in thin air.

Also I highly recommend Ubers instead of cabs. They are a lot safer and a lot cheaper. I'm a fan of mucho bunda so I instantly fell in love with 4 x4. It sucks they closed on weekends which was weird to me but I went everyday except the days they were closed LOL. Monte Carlo was my second favorite. I don't get the hype for Centaurus. It was way overpriced and none of the women were beautiful in my opinion.

Mabs was a really good spot to but it's hit or miss on the women. Each day I was there I learned something new so my next trip will be even better. I won't do another hotel though cause they be tripping on guest and I don't have time for someone to tell me who can and can't come to my room.

All the fellow American brothers I met were cool especially a older guy who stayed in my room told me he was 63 yet rockstars wish they smashed like him LOL. Every time I seen him in the club he was with 2 or 3 women. Casablanca was my go to night spot for partying. American music and Brazil music mixed and some pretty decent looking chicas. All and all I had an amazing time and I have Brazil ranked over the Dominican and Tijuana despite the long flight.

Exec Talent

06-04-21, 17:10

Guys should get a couple of pairs of pick pocket proof pants for peace of mind, I usually wear them through the airport and the swing clubs cause things tend to fall out of your pockets with your pants down. If I'm going to just a club I wear jeans but leave my phone at home, not needed, for the extra few dollars I'll take a regular taxi and keep my phone safe.

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Kudos all around Rio Bob!

Rio Bob

06-04-21, 17:21

That was impressive, going to a swingers club after visiting a churrascaria. I usually end up feeling full after visiting a churrascaria (I love good meat) and the last thing I would desire would be group sex.
Your balcony is Pestana beachfront?I rented an Airbnb this time, penthouse apartment on copacabana facing the beach with huge balcony.

Sperto

06-04-21, 17:44

Regarding pickpockets. Don't complicate it. The blue R$100 bills you put in your socks or under the sole in your shoes. The spending money, put it in a small "zip pouch" (?) with a string that's tied to you underwear. Place the pouch inside your underwear. It has worked for 31 years in Brazil, never lost a centavo, not even in the pipoca in the Salvador carnival. In Brazil I never put any valuables in my pockets. When bringing a small compact camera to festa or carnival just string it to your underwear and stuff it in your underwear. When bringing the heavy artillery, SLR camera etc, put it in a simple bag strapped across your shoulders placed under your arm. Don't put it in front of your breast/stomach looking like a newbie carrying something valuable.

I rented an Airbnb this time, penthouse apartment on copacabana facing the beach with huge balcony.It sounds great. You stay in Leme? It would be nice with a picture of the view. Good you didn't try any balcony-f*cks when you stayed at Barão de Ipanema.

Rio Bob

06-04-21, 18:57

It sounds great. You stay in Leme? It would be nice with a picture of the view. Good you didn't try any balcony-f*cks when you stayed at Baro de Ipanema.I stayed right across the street from Praco de Lido, more or less the building was right on top of Dolce Vita, very good location. LOL Barao De Ipanema was a great apartment and is rented long term now but yes at least I got some BBBJ on that balcony and on the hammock. Attached are some pics of the balcony and the view and 1 pic of a beach club in leblon right near the Sheraton, looks like it closed down for the Pandemic but they were cleaning it up for reopening, I've seen pics of it when it was open and it was full of young beautiful girls maybe some here have some experience with it?

One other thing I got this apto through AirBNB and I asked every host if I could have my amigas come in at any time and they all said yes. One women who had an airbnb I saw her picture she was very pretty I almost rented just to meet her LOL but she was desperate to rent and would offer me anything as a discount. One guy I was going to rent and he told me I can have guests but when he sent me the contract it said no guests, I questioned him on this and he said pay it no mind but I cancelled.

Past few years I have been staying in girl friendly hotels and they only allow 1 girl at a time and sometimes I like 2 so that is why I went for an apartment this time.

Another thing the woman at the cash register of Dolce Vita is a very pretty woman, one night she had to move behind me to get to the cash register and rubbed both her breasts along my back oh such a brief moment of ecstacy LOL. The next night I tried to put the moves on her and she told me you do realize I am the Donna here? Sure But I can try can't I? LOL.

Sperto

06-04-21, 19:21

I stayed right across the street from Praco de Lido, more or less the building was right on top of Dolce Vita, very good location.Great location and no high hotels overlooking your terraco and your sex orgies (that's why I thought you stayed in Leme, as most Copa coberturas in front of the beach have not the same privacy).
Regarding the club close to Vidigal. I've seen they have parties with hot girls entering, but never entered. Check it out.

Mangera

06-04-21, 23:07

Vagabundo1

06-05-21, 05:04

On Netflix a new movie, Alemao, is must watch viewing to understand Rio and where our favorite girls come from; it is also good viewing between banging at your pad if you get your girl over.

Had a fine day, on a non pro outing. Navy Lieutenants. Rio Bob, we must be synched by Clairvoyance of some sort, nothing to report other than that, as it wasn't P4P, I will say taking a impromptu family to dinner at Na Brasa Columbia at Olegario Maciel is it's own sublime pleasure.

Member #4729

06-05-21, 15:35

This update will address the inevitable consequences of becoming a regular with a terma girl and then later some reportage from Posts 2.

When last checking in the reality of developing a regular (almost daily) relationship with a Terma girl had begun to hit. Two things occurred in direct correlation- 1. The demand for more money, gifts, uber eats before sex, helping out with money for her birthday party, etc had begun to pick up and 2. The quality of performance had declined. It could be that the performance never *actually* declined, but because the novelty of such a beautiful dish combined with the acts she was willing to perform had once been intense enough to smooth out any perception of slacking- the execution itself had always in fact been matter of fact and without much desire. I began to see it as being obligatory and started to feel like a chump. The aura of novelty hath vanished, the bubble burst. Let's also add that these girls lie all the time and their lies are often laughable and blatant.

Even more so, a reconnection with Letitia and the best sex of the trip only served to set the scene. Letitia was to come over the morning after to do her laundry, give me lasagna and sex- but had to cancel because her very good friend had unexpectedly died. I'm still waiting for an update about that. Immediately after Lucrezia messages me and wants to come over since it's a holiday and she doesn't need to work and I agree. The day was annoying and not fun. She insists on eating first, orders Japanese food from uber eats- calls and yells at the delivery guy because it's taking too long. We try to do oral, but my heart is just not in it. She spends the rest of the day on the couch looking at watches before somehow managing to extract some money from me to buy one. I've had enough.

I send a message later that day that we I need to take a break which she surprisingly doesn't even really react to- is mostly concerned with collecting her charger which she left at my place which we finally arrange the next day. It's not until the following evening that the disappearance of her cash cow starts to sink in and I get a series of emails, first contrite and wishing to at least preserve some contact, to later angry and hurt after I tell her I need variety. The cognitive dissonance in her messages is interesting to observe as is the entitlement.

It's been said multiple times that to them, we are just a source of income. It may feel that they have some attachment to us, but there is non beyond a need to keep the money coming in and a sense of pride that can be easily insulted if things don't go their way. When a beautiful woman keeps contacting you every day to come over for sex, it's difficult to resist because you feel desired- but when you understand she's not contact you for sex, she's contacting you to make a withdrawal, it's a bit easier to say no.

To wash myself clean, last night I head out to the boates on Posto 2 and to see if I can get a new fix. My sex drive is not that high at this point- either because its late in my weekly TRT cycle, or just the drama from aforementioned nonsense, or just general monger burnout after 3 solid weeks of daily sex- who knows? I recon Mabs before going to Marrakech.

Marrakech is weird my dudes. I've only ever been the only guy in there and the women (about 10) all swarm you instantly and expect you to make a choice. Once doing so your girl really gives you the hard sell, which is a turn-off. My choice was moderately attractive, but with a slight underbite. Keep in mind, I've already paid a 50 entry fee (comes with 2 drinks), and the club will charge another 150 exit fee for the girl. This girl agreed to BBBJ, CIM, but was asking for 500 for an hour. Forget it. I ask 300, she goes down to 400, but that's where it stalled out. I get her zapp and leave. Why is it that the girls at Marrakech seem to not understand how to put their contact info into your zap? Both times I've been there that simple task was an ordeal. Anyways- not a realistic price point.

I head back to Mabs and chill for a while drinking a beer. Ladies start to show up, but nothing I fancy. I move on to Dolce Vita. Every single time I've been in this place it has been totally dead- I'm not sure why it has the reputation here that it does among the posters of this forum. This was Friday night at 12:30, and basically nobody but me, a few other fellas sitting in a booth, and about 4 or 5 raggedy girls shuffling around. Is this a place that doesn't start until later? I'm out.

On the way back to Mab's on the walk I'm propositioned by a pretty decent freelancer but decline because she looks like someone who might steal. She quotes me 400, I stick to 300. She doesn't come down. Soon after I spot a smoking hot branca freelancer in a tight black dress who looks Russian. Gorgeous body, beautiful face, could easily be on BarraVips. I ask her price, she says 200. I'm like, 200 USD, what? She's like, no- 200 reals. I'm flabbergasted. What will she do? BBBJ, CIM? Yes, and yes. Bam, its on and we are in an uber to my place. It is roughly 1:30 am.

In the uber she is putting my hands on her tits and flashing her beautiful boobs behind the driver, I feel like she is a bit too enthusiastic and possibly on drugs. I think she said her name was Sara. I had previously stowed away all my valuables so my pad is somewhat theft proof unless I am drugged- so I'm not too concerned- but its always an unknown. Back at my place, again she's just overly enthusiastic and rushing things too much, I really can't get into it. On anther day, perhaps, but my mind was somewhere else. Big ups to the majority of the sex fiend mongers who can raise wood under any circumstance. I'm able to get somewhat into it- but notice Lucrezia is sending me the previously mentioned zapps out of the corner of my eye. Sara is clearly just overacting with all these oohs and aahs- which is actually a turn-off, and I phone in a performance, don't even finish. At some point she says I look exactly like her ex boyfriend. Hmm. Its over, I pay-and she doesn't have a phone supposedly (weird, probably a lie) but I give her my number on a piece of paper which I'm sure the throws in the trash. It was a bizarre session. No valuables taken.

I might be having monger burnout. This week I'm going to join a gym and start developing a weekly fitness regime as well as working on some of my real life professional obligations and put the hobby in the context of a larger set of concerns and hopefully it will re-ignite the fire. Again, big respect to the guys who can just plug away daily with 2 girls, week after week, month after month. I think however, we can appreciate the idea that mongering is individualistic. Monger and let monger shall be the whole of the law. Zebra Out.

One Eyed Man

06-05-21, 15:57

MiamiBoy1

06-05-21, 16:09

Got to Rio a few days ago. The city is beautiful, the weather is perfect despite winter season, tons of hot girls everywhere I go.

Visited Solarium terma on Thursday around 8. 30 pm, not much talent, honestly. Probably about 10-12 girls, 7/10 tops. For an average Joe who thinks pussy is pussy, they are all doable, but I expected to see more 8's and 9's, but was a bit disappointed. The vibe kinda sucks, few gringos here and there having bottle service and a couple of girls are all over them, but most girls are just sitting there bored. DJ is playing but nobody dances. The facility itself is more like a lounge rather than a spa. The sauna room was turned off. Got approached by a 7, speaks decent english. Got her a drink, one for myself. Chatted for a bit with some DFK mixed in. Then off to the room we went. What surprised me is that no blow job was on the menu, not even CBJ. She just put a condom on and climbed on top. Changed a few positions until I finished. Boring mechanical sex, no CIM, no anal, no nothing. Maybe YMMV, but who knows? Total damage was 630 R including entrance fee, drinks and 40 min session.

Last night, Friday, went to check out Dolce Vita, got there around 1 am, 50 R entrance fee. The club is very similar to MDE Gustos but smaller and less talent. Again, mostly 6's and 7's, no 8's or 9's, no stunners. Heck, maybe my standards are way too high? Barravips girls look hotter on their website. Average drink is 25 R. Got approached a few times, but none of them was up to my standards / taste. Every single girl that approached me asked for a drink, kinda annoying. Got a phone number of a blondish super tall girl, she was taller than me and I'm no short at 6 feet. Speaks good english. What turned me off is that she kept saying that time is money and after buying her a drink and chatting for a bit she wanted me to take her out and I was not ready, still wanted to wait and see if any new girls would show up. She then approached other guys, but nobody pulled the trigger and she came back to me but I was still not ready jajaja. Her business approach just killed the vibe. I took her number, just in case, and left around 2. 45 am. The place got busier around 2 am BTW, so if you decide to go, go late.

Don't get me wrong, I still love it here, enjoying every day that I have, doing tourist stuff, swimming, etc. I see tons of hot looking girls, 8's and 9's at the beach or around, on Tinder (no success there). Lapa was packed with locals last night and there is some good talent there as well. But when it comes to termas, clubs, etc. And other places with working girls, I have not had any luck yet. Barravips girls either don't reply or don't negotiate. I have mentally accepted the going rates of 500 R / HR, but it looks like they don't want my business. Oh, and a few SA girls flaked on me. Still have yet to experience famous Brazilian PSE.

If anybody wants to show me the ropes or share a contact of a beautiful 8 or 9 PSE / GFE, that would be appreciated.

Exec Talent

06-05-21, 18:43

This update will address the inevitable consequences of becoming a regular with a terma girl and then later some reportage from Posts 2.After reading the woes of our young intrepid monger, ZebraStripe81, I thought I would offer another perspective and some advice. All women are not alike, including GDPs. I have had GDPs whom have actually said, don't spend the money or are you sure, that is a lot of money, or this one is cheaper. You need to get a sense early how they look at money and their focus on what is important. Are they just women-children who want everything? Do they talk about things all the time? Yes, this is why learning Portuguese, and not just the basics, is important. When all you have to offer is money and all she has is sex, what do you have really? This leads to is she a friend, a buddy, someone you enjoy hanging with without the sex? If you don't initiate sex, does she and not it is my job type sex. It is often said here that Brazilian women like sex. Truth is, around the world, women like sex, just not bad sex. The mantra of many here is that you can't turn a GDP into a housewife. If she can sleep in your bed while you hold her, wake up in the morning without you jumping her bones and spend the day with you just holding hands and taking it all in, you might find at night she is the one who wants to please you and wants nothing in return. For that night and day at least, she wasn't a GDP.

Lalabo

06-05-21, 18:51

Vagabundo1

06-05-21, 19:13

It's new. Ana Foxxx sat rivited watching it.

It's not available on Netflix US.

Vagabundo1

06-05-21, 19:23

Actually it is from 2014 I stand corrected.

It's not available on Netflix US.

Combo

06-05-21, 20:25

Jazzy Daddy

06-05-21, 20:40

Arrived Monday late morning, and made my way to my Apt on top of Santa Teresa. I have stayed in many bairros here, but I prefer to stay above the city and separate from places where there are so many tourists. Here in Santa Teresa it is nearly impossible for anyone to imagine I'm not Brasileiro. Monday I just slept in all day, it was great to be out of the US and fully vaccinated. I really don't care for hotels as I can't cook the food I prefer to eat, I. E. , Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Italian, French, etc. My apt has a full kitchen with oven and a large balcony overlooking centro. Tonight I am preparing Italian Risotto and Creme Brulee. Tuesday after playing alto and flute, I went to Cantagalo to hook up with GDP, we scheduled for 3:30. I got to the address and texted her I was downstairs. Of coarse, no answer, so I wait and text again. Still vacant, I waited 12 more minutes, still nada, I text her and tell her "sorry I can't wait past 10 minutes and leave". I call backup at 605 NS and all is good. Taxi over there and welcomed by a lovely 19 yo no kids. We spent a half hour talking (as she was curious why I spoke port and wanted no know more about the vaccine) ended up staying another hour sexing her. I don't like silicone ass or tits, and this young lady is an all natural beauty and a great reliever of stress. Wednesday contacted some friends who are having a jam on Sunday in Oswaldo Cruz, perfect end of the week. In the afternoon on Wednesday I was enticed to go to Cinelandia to meet a sweet 28 yo just off the praca. Had a great session, all natural, and again at the end of the session talked a lot about her going to England in Sept. Thursday after practice I walked down to Smartfit, joined the club and had a great work out (smart fit is a great gym, I recommend it). Friday night I went to Club 116, there were a couple of hot negras so I sat down next to one who was already with a guy. She kept looking at me and smiling, but fearful of causing a disturbance, we only flirted while her customer wasn't looking. I finished my drink and before I got up to leave I slide my card over and she takes it and I'm out the door. As soon as I hit the sidewalk my phone starts blowing up, she tells me"come back up, why did I leave?" I tell her sorry I have an appointment. So I walk over to 4 x4 and walk up the stairs to the boate and I'm informed the Wiskeria is closed but I can go inside in my street clothes (I can't stand those funky robes). Once inside it was the usual 4 x4 scene a few negras, brancas and morenas, I was approached by three different contract employees and gave my card to two of them, other than that, uneventful and not very interesting.

TuneFor

06-06-21, 00:31

Taking into account that ratings are subjective, I have not seen any gorgeous girls (8+) in any of the termas I had visited during my recent trip except for cheetah girl I saw in terms 65. I personally adjust my expectations according to location and price. If you are looking for 8+ in rio then you will be very disappointed. Yes, you might find 8+ time to time but I didn't think that would happen consistently. I always talk to girls about the services I expect before committing and I had surprises in room whenever I broke that rule.So true.

I loved Rio but attraction of women in daily life is not so great at all.

You can see some premium girls on beach (mainly Barra) but usually they are already occupied.

Maybe will change my opinion with next visit, fingers crossed.

Steve 9696

06-06-21, 01:48

I recommend you try a few termas. They all go in cycles. One week or month, Solarium is good but 4 X4 isn't. Or 65 is good but Monte Carlos isn't.

I agree that La Dulce Vida isn't that great. You will occasionally see an 8+ there. But guys hoping for a Help replacement will be incredibly disappointed.For those that seem disenchanted w Rio, I believe it's generally acknowledged that SP is better than Rio for girls. While I don't personally have firsthand knowledge of Rio, My firsthand knowledge of (precovid) SP is there are plenty of 8+ Girls in the Boates. And the kicker is that most girls I've been with in SP (about 15) have been from Rio! They come to SP to make their Boate money. Def recommend you try SP before you judge Brazil.

P.S. Someone described the pushy experience they received in the termas — just like FKK. You will never get this at A nice Boate in SP. The only incentive to get me to the room was twice I've had my dick seriously assaulted while in the club. And this after a half hour plus of hanging out. It worked BTW. LOL.

Yossarian

06-06-21, 02:32

Yossarian

06-06-21, 03:17

Arrived Monday late morning, and made my way to my Apt on top of Santa Teresa. I have stayed in many bairros here, but I prefer to stay above the city and separate from places where there are so many tourists. Here in Santa Teresa it is nearly impossible for anyone to imagine I'm not Brasileiro. Monday I just slept in all day, it was great to be out of the US and fully vaccinated. I really don't care for hotels as I can't cook the food I prefer to eat, I. E. , Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Italian, French, etc. My apt has a full kitchen with oven and a large balcony overlooking centro. Tonight I am preparing Italian Risotto and Creme Brulee. Tuesday after playing alto and flute, I went to Cantagalo to hook up with GDP, we scheduled for 3:30. I got to the address and texted her I was downstairs. Of coarse, no answer, so I wait and text again. Still vacant, I waited 12 more minutes, still nada, I text her and tell her "sorry I can't wait past 10 minutes and leave". I call backup at 605 NS and all is good. Taxi over there and welcomed by a lovely 19 yo no kids. We spent a half hour talking (as she was curious why I spoke port and wanted no know more about the vaccine) ended up staying another hour sexing her. I don't like silicone ass or tits, and this young lady is an all natural beauty and a great reliever of stress. Wednesday contacted some friends who are having a jam on Sunday in Oswaldo Cruz, perfect end of the week. In the afternoon on Wednesday I was enticed to go to Cinelandia to meet a sweet 28 yo just off the praca. Had a great session, all natural, and again at the end of the session talked a lot about her going to England in Sept. Thursday after practice I walked down to Smartfit, joined the club and had a great work out (smart fit is a great gym, I recommend it)..Ahhhh. A man after my own mind -- I like different ethnic cuisines and find I can often prepare them better than many local establishments in Rio (or at least the way I like the cuisine prepared). I also prefer the Santa Teresa area too. Away from much of the tourist hubbub but not too far away from the things / areas I like. I also don't like silicon / saline in girls' asses or tits. I also prefer them au natural. I've never tried SmartFit out. It seems like you can't swing the proverbial dead cat without hitting one there. I have always gone to BodyTech. Yes, it is expensive and I don't fully use it to just icy the price for the most part; but, I have made quite a few good connections with locals there.

Member #4698

06-06-21, 04:30

Visited Solarium terma on Thursday around 8. 30 pm, not much talent, honestly. Probably about 10-12 girls, 7/10 tops. For an average Joe who thinks pussy is pussy, they are all doable, but I expected to see more 8's and 9's, but was a bit disappointed.
I recommend you try a few termas. They all go in cycles. One week or month, Solarium is good but 4 X4 isn't. Or 65 is good but Monte Carlos isn't. This sounds as likely an explanation as you are going to get for the different observations and conclusions of MiamiBoy and myself about Solarium. I really liked the joint and MiamiBoy not so much. But I hardly ever see any real 9's even in the best places and only one or two 8's if at all, but only if the joint is exceptional. I guess I am a tough grader. LOL. I think a place is pretty good if I find just 10% of the girls are attractive to me which equates to a 6.25 to 7.5 in my rating book.

I visited 3 times last trip. So you know I thought the place was pretty good. So, I will ballpark it and say there were between 20 to 25 girls in the bar area maybe more. The lineup changed slightly night to night, but there seemed to be on average at least 3 sexy girls available every time I visited and a couple of more girls that were interesting which means they were probably only 5.4 to 5.8 overall, but they had something that caught my eye which put them into the doable category as far as I as concerned.

Summing up, I liked the looks of approximately 5 out of 25 of the Solarium girls on hand and I thought 3 were very hot which is a solid percentage for any bordello IMHO. Anyway, it was a better percentage than what I found in Centaurus, with only 1 good looker out 5 total, and Perola Negra with zero out of 5 lookers. Of course, it all depends on what turns you on and what you find attractive. Timing is a factor too. The solution is easy. Terma Hopping: if a place does not have what you are looking for, call for an Uber and go to the next joint.

Kib123

06-06-21, 04:57

This update will address the inevitable consequences of becoming a regular with a terma girl and then later some reportage from Posts 2.

Mongers should read this report, good insights that are mostly spot on.

Kib123

06-06-21, 05:38

Visited multiple clinicas recently and generally had a good time. Prices have come down from last time I was here, most spas were charging Rs 120/ h. But I think the pandemic took its toll on the Cariocas, I had a hard time finding skinny providers in the spas. Summary of a few experiences worth highlighting.

Belprazer in Centro; best selection of all spas I visited. At least 10 ladies in lineup at any given time, all shapes and sizes. I sessioned with 4 ladies on 4 days. All did their best to please, and all provided GFE. My favorite was Duda, perhaps the hottest lady this trip. We connected well and she was the closest to GFE I got this entire trip.

Onix Spa in Centro; Underwhelming for several reasons. Selection was weak, most of the ladies on the website were there, but they don't look as nice as the pics. Second, the rooms are really shitty, phone booth size (like Mezzanine in Bogota) with a shower at the foot of the bed. Third, they are relatively expensive, they charge Rs 170/ h, a 40% premium over other spas for reasons not clear to me. Finally, getting into the building is annoying. You have to register at the ground floor to get a key that allows you to access the elevators and exit the building as well. They record your ID info and take your picture, very intrusive. Dudas spa is in the same building.

Copa583; The cleanest and most classy rooms of all clinicas I have been to in Rio. The selection was a bit disappointing. The worst performance I had this trip was here. A lady with curly hair, CBJ and the bare minimum to get by (my first and only CBJ in Rio). Then at the end she kept harassing me endlessly for a tip, another first. Got really annoying.

Tried to connect with a hottie from BarrasVip. Friendly, but insisted that I book a room at a love motel of her choice (for Rs 300), in addition to her fee. I didn't bite. Not sure why she didn't want to come to the room I already paid for.

Checked Mabs and Dolce vita on different occasions, but found the scenes more depressing that anything.

Happy mongering my friends.

Xpartan

06-06-21, 05:48

Xpartan

06-06-21, 05:58

For those that seem disenchanted w Rio, I believe it's generally acknowledged that SP is better than Rio for girls. While I don't personally have firsthand knowledge of Rio, My firsthand knowledge of (precovid) SP is there are plenty of 8+ Girls in the Boates. And the kicker is that most girls I've been with in SP (about 15) have been from Rio! They come to SP to make their Boate money. Def recommend you try SP before you judge Brazil.

P.S. Someone described the pushy experience they received in the termas just like FKK. You will never get this at A nice Boate in SP. The only incentive to get me to the room was twice I've had my dick seriously assaulted while in the club. And this after a half hour plus of hanging out. It worked BTW. LOL.I don't believe that pushy is typical for Rio termas. In 20 years, I remember 2 pushy girls. One took a gentle hint and disappeared, another one got told off by another girl who didn't like her behavior. It's nothing to be concerned of, IMHO.

But, yeah, for clubs (boates) SP can't be beat. Still, Rio is a beautiful and fun city. Try to use these adjectives to describe SP, LOL.

Vagabundo1

06-06-21, 07:30

Yeah, RJ is the best, it has the beach, and waterfalls on hikes.

SP is nothing but urban sprawl ad infinitum.

My SP girl (who is a RJ native) canceled her trip to RJ, alas. But she said, them breve.

I don't believe that pushy is typical for Rio termas. In 20 years, I remember 2 pushy girls. One took a gentle hint and disappeared, another one got told off by another girl who didn't like her behavior. It's nothing to be concerned of, IMHO.

But, yeah, for clubs (boates) SP can't be beat. Still, Rio is a beautiful and fun city. Try to use these adjectives to describe SP, LOL.

Vagabundo1

06-06-21, 07:43

At RB156 you can just say a name and not show ID (tell them you don't have it, left it in your safe). So they record your name as Ronald McDonald, yes they have your picture (grow a beard), don't commit any felonies, at least not on camera.

Visited multiple clinicas recently and generally had a good time. Prices have come down from last time I was here, most spas were charging Rs 120/ h. But I think the pandemic took its toll on the Cariocas, I had a hard time finding skinny providers in the spas. Summary of a few experiences worth highlighting.

Belprazer in Centro; best selection of all spas I visited. At least 10 ladies in lineup at any given time, all shapes and sizes. I sessioned with 4 ladies on 4 days. All did their best to please, and all provided GFE. My favorite was Duda, perhaps the hottest lady this trip. We connected well and she was the closest to GFE I got this entire trip.

Onix Spa in Centro; Underwhelming for several reasons. Selection was weak, most of the ladies on the website were there, but they don't look as nice as the pics. Second, the rooms are really shitty, phone booth size (like Mezzanine in Bogota) with a shower at the foot of the bed. Third, they are relatively expensive, they charge Rs 170/ h, a 40% premium over other spas for reasons not clear to me. Finally, getting into the building is annoying. You have to register at the ground floor to get a key that allows you to access the elevators and exit the building as well. They record your ID info and take your picture, very intrusive. Dudas spa is in the same building..

The Cane

06-06-21, 11:41

For those that seem disenchanted w Rio, I believe it's generally acknowledged that SP is better than Rio for girls. While I don't personally have firsthand knowledge of Rio, My firsthand knowledge of (precovid) SP is there are plenty of 8+ Girls in the Boates. And the kicker is that most girls I've been with in SP (about 15) have been from Rio! They come to SP to make their Boate money. Def recommend you try SP before you judge Brazil.

P.S. Someone described the pushy experience they received in the termas just like FKK. You will never get this at A nice Boate in SP. The only incentive to get me to the room was twice I've had my dick seriously assaulted while in the club. And this after a half hour plus of hanging out. It worked BTW. LOL.I do have firsthand knowledge of both cities, and I know that both are great for girls! Each has its pros and cons. And as Xpartan says, "pushy" is rare for a termas. I think the main issue is this pandemic. These aren't normal times, and therefore you can't draw a reasonable conclusion based on today's circumstances. Once we get past this, I expect the situation on the ground to improve dramatically in Rio in terms of available talent. Rio is normally great for girls folks, and a marvelous city! You just need to know how to work that market, which doesn't work like Sao Paulo, and vice versa. But while COVID is still raging in Brazil, everything is going to stay messed up! Be patient.

Member #4729

06-06-21, 14:48

Member #4729

06-06-21, 14:51

Truth is, around the world, women like sex, just not bad sex. The mantra of many here is that you can't turn a GDP into a housewife. If she can sleep in your bed while you hold her, wake up in the morning without you jumping her bones and spend the day with you just holding hands and taking it all in, you might find at night she is the one who wants to please you and wants nothing in return. For that night and day at least, she wasn't a GDP.I agree with this completely. Its not totally fair to lump all the GDP's into one category- there is a wide variety just as their are mongers and all connections are individual. This particular GDP was young and unsophisticated despite her aspirations to material wealth, and either didn't have the skill, ability or desire to play the long slow game.

Steve 9696

06-06-21, 15:28

When you 'date' a GDP, she starts seeing you as her personal ATM / boyfriend. I'd say it's a good thing. It's like a alarm beeping in your head that nudges you to move on. You may hate it, but you know it's time to get out of bed. Imagine how much damage a more sophisticated creature could cause to both your wallet and your heart with a longer, well executed con. Actually, no need to imagine, as our esteemed Exec Talent described it clearly in another thread.

You might be young, but you're wise, too. Love them, enjoy them, pay them, don't fall for them. I really appreciate your reports, thank you!Awww Zebra. So sorry. Been there done that and been taken worse than you. I see new faces here. But in the SP thread many followed the Thifany story meet a girl in a Boate, have an amazing time, fly her to London and have the best week of my life (happy to repost or PM if you haven't read it). There was no downside in this one. She got engaged shortly thereafter, so we parted amicably.

Trying to repeat this with a hottie from Buenos Aires was heart breaking. We spent the best time together in BA like we were in love. 21 hrs together over three days (as opposed to 5 with Thifany before I pulled the trigger on London. LOL) Went to the sex club together. You name it. Flew her to London and she dropped me like a hot rock. Between flight costs, a new phone, and some other out about $3000. And fuck it HURT. Much more than the monetary loss.

Fortunately I knew the cure was to fuck hottties fast and furious and fucked 10 girls in 5 days in London (Diva escorts mostly) including the most epic duo of my life with the legendary Melty and her flat mate Pantera. OMG.

I honestly don't regret the overall experience because the first part was soooo good. But what a lesson in how you feel like you know a girl only to find out she is a stone cold b*tch underneath. So eyes ALWAYS wide open and enjoy it while you can. There is ALWAYS another. Dive right in and don't look back.

Mr Enternational

06-06-21, 17:03

Trying to repeat this with a hottie from Buenos Aires was heart breaking. We spent the best time together in BA like we were in love. 21 hrs together over three days (as opposed to 5 with Thifany before I pulled the trigger on London. LOL) Went to the sex club together. You name it. Flew her to London and she dropped me like a hot rock. Between flight costs, a new phone, and some other out about $3000. And fuck it HURT. Much more than the monetary loss.Easy solution is to stop trying to date hookers and find a normal girlfriend. If you lead with money then you know she is there for money. Why is this so hard to understand? For 16 years on this website I have said show up without money to see how they really feel about you. Easy exercise. But you guys already know how they really feel because you pour money into them to TRY to keep them around, which does not always work.

A real girlfriend will love you for you and not because you are giving her money and stuff. The only chicks I have ever given anything to are the ones I had history with and they did not ask. And they certainly were not hookers. I have been with my girlfriend for 4 years and she has never asked me for shit. Just recently I have started buying her shit when I see it is actually needed without her saying anything.

Get with someone that actually appreciates and loves you, and not with somebody that will be gone when the money stops. Next time you really like someone say it out loud to yourself to see if you are thinking rationally. I met a chick that is a school teacher that I really like. I met a chick that is a lawyer that I really like. I met a chick that is a hooker that I really like. One of these things sounds ridiculous.

There is a place for hookers, but stop getting their place confused. You pay them in cash after you fuck. Keep It Simple. Money can't buy you love, especially from a hooker. If that was the case then she would be in love with every customer that walked in the door.

Vagabundo1

06-06-21, 17:18

Give her a card.

Can have biz cards made in Rio at a grafica or at home easily.

Friday night I went to Club 116, there were a couple of hot negras so I sat down next to one who was already with a guy. She kept looking at me and smiling, but fearful of causing a disturbance, we only flirted while her customer wasn't looking. I finished my drink and before I got up to leave I slide my card over and she takes it and I'm out the door. As soon as I hit the sidewalk my phone starts blowing up, she tells me"come back up, why did I leave?" I tell her sorry I have an appointment. So I walk over to 4 x4 and walk up the stairs to the boate and I'm informed the Wiskeria is closed but I can go inside in my street clothes (I can't stand those funky robes). Once inside it was the usual 4 x4 scene a few negras, brancas and morenas, I was approached by three different contract employees and gave my card to two of them, other than that, uneventful and not very interesting.

Exec Talent

06-06-21, 18:03

Some guys have been burnt. Others fear being burnt.

Women are women. Met a drop-dead gorgeous Russian working girl in a club who was fantastic company, didn't ask me for anything and actually gave me gifts. She had a boyfriend who treated her badly.

Had a friend in the US who asked me to date her sister to show her how a real man treated women because she had a boyfriend who was treating her badly.

If you think it is only about money for sex, then you are right, it will only be about money for sex. Have I gotten burnt. Absolutely. Would I do it again. Absolutely.

Help Disco was one of the biggest illusions ever. Here I am in this "nightclub" dancing and drinking with all these girls. At the end of the night, one is going home with me. It was so successful because there are tons of guys from around the world who were not into ordering escorts, having sex and that was the end of it. They wanted the illusion.

The Cane

06-06-21, 18:11

Easy solution is to stop trying to date hookers and find a normal girlfriend. If you lead with money then you know she is there for money. Why is this so hard to understand? For 16 years on this website I have said show up without money to see how they really feel about you. Easy exercise. But you guys already know how they really feel because you pour money into them to TRY to keep them around, which does not always work.

A real girlfriend will love you for you and not because you are giving her money and stuff. The only chicks I have ever given anything to are the ones I had history with and they did not ask. And they certainly were not hookers. I have been with my girlfriend for 4 years and she has never asked me for shit. Just recently I have started buying her shit when I see it is actually needed without her saying anything.

Get with someone that actually appreciates and loves you, and not with somebody that will be gone when the money stops. Next time you really like someone say it out loud to yourself to see if you are thinking rationally. I met a chick that is a school teacher that I really like. I met a chick that is a lawyer that I really like. I met a chick that is a hooker that I really like. One of these things sounds ridiculous.

There is a place for hookers, but stop getting their place confused. You pay them in cash after you fuck. Keep It Simple. Money can't buy you love, especially from a hooker. If that was the case then she would be in love with every customer that walked in the door.Them's the facts bro! Could not have said it better myself. But you know there's always somebody who just has to "date" a tute, when really it should be all about the Five F's. Then when it doesn't work out, they're saddened. What could they have reasonably expected? Find them, feel them, finger them, fuck them. Then forget them!

Xpartan

06-06-21, 19:46

Yossarian

06-06-21, 21:49

Easy solution is to stop trying to date hookers and find a normal girlfriend. If you lead with money then you know she is there for money. Why is this so hard to understand? For 16 years on this website I have said show up without money to see how they really feel about you. Easy exercise. But you guys already know how they really feel because you pour money into them to TRY to keep them around, which does not always work.

A real girlfriend will love you for you and not because you are giving her money and stuff. The only chicks I have ever given anything to are the ones I had history with and they did not ask. And they certainly were not hookers. I have been with my girlfriend for 4 years and she has never asked me for shit. Just recently I have started buying her shit when I see it is actually needed without her saying anything.

Get with someone that actually appreciates and loves you, and not with somebody that will be gone when the money stops. Next time you really like someone say it out loud to yourself to see if you are thinking rationally. I met a chick that is a school teacher that I really like. I met a chick that is a lawyer that I really like. I met a chick that is a hooker that I really like. One of these things sounds ridiculous.

There is a place for hookers, but stop getting their place confused. You pay them in cash after you fuck. Keep It Simple. Money can't buy you love, especially from a hooker. If that was the case then she would be in love with every customer that walked in the door.Nailed it. If you want a LTR with a woman, never. Never ever lead with $$ You are communicating weakness and low value. You are setting the frame of the relationship on your value as a provider and will be considered an ATM from there on out. Now, if you want to bang strippers / termas girls / hookers, have it and lead with the $$ Enjoy the fuck out of (and fucking them) them and discard when done. Each type of girl has her place depending on what you are trying to do.

Spidy

06-06-21, 22:06

Awww Zebra. So sorry. Been there done that and been taken worse than you. I see new faces here. But in the SP thread many followed the Thifany story meet a girl in a Boate, have an amazing time, fly her to London and have the best week of my life (happy to repost or PM if you haven't read it). There was no downside in this one. She got engaged shortly thereafter, so we parted amicably.

Trying to repeat this with a hottie from Buenos Aires was heart breaking. We spent the best time together in BA like we were in love. 21 hrs together over three days (as opposed to 5 with Thifany before I pulled the trigger on London. LOL) Went to the sex club together.

Your first and only mistake, is trying to emulate and replicate that true "girlfriend experience" that ONLY a Brasileira can provide, with an Argentinian chica. What were you thinking? ...kkkk

Once again, thanks for sharing, your life hobbying experiences. I think more than anything, what I've gleaned from this experience (and others you've previously shared), is that you seem to like to have fun and the thrill of a good adventure, with some of semi-pro / pros, that you form a strong bond or connection with.

There is a middle-ground here and some might call it a "sweet-spot", in hobbying:

Now...there's the finger'em, fuck'em and pay'em and get the fuck out crowd and then...there's the I can turn a "hoe into a housewife" crowd.

On occasion, those that fall somewhere in between the two-ends of the spectrum, when we find a connection with a certain semi-pro / pro "hottie", may simply want to have some "short term" fun and adventure, with said hottie. For the most part, we are not always looking to make "hoes into housewives", nor are we looking to "kick'em to the curb" our earliest convenience.

You name it. Flew her to London and she dropped me like a hot rock. Between flight costs, a new phone, and some other out about $3000. And fuck it HURT. Much more than the monetary loss I feel your pain and so does my wallet. Ouch!...kkkk

Now understand, Brasileiras semi-pro and pro P4P providers, are the probably the best in the world at stimulating that true girlfriend experience and at making you feel like the king of the castle. Many of us here, are duly guilty of "falling" (and sometimes falling hard) for semi-pro/pro Brasileiras and suffered the "heartache" and/or "bank account" withdrawal pain. Just not perhaps, on the same scale. As you say, you have no regrets.

But I'm sure you went into the "arrangement" for adventure, with "eyes wide open". So nothing ventured, nothing gained. I for one, enjoy a good adventure, even when the outcome isn't as expected or anticipated. Sure you can have these "adventures" with regular "normal girlfriends" (albeit less riskier perhaps), but somehow it's just not the same thing. Or for me at least, the deviant sexual adventure aspects are very different than with a "normal" girlfriend.

I honestly don't regret the overall experience because the first part was soooo good. But what a lesson in how you feel like you know a girl only to find out she is a stone cold be*tch underneath. So eyes ALWAYS wide open and enjoy it while you can. There is ALWAYS another. Dive right in and don't look back.
So you are not the first hobbyist, nor will you be the last, to fall for Brasileiras and their Siren ways. And hence, Mr. E, will be telling his precautionary tales of "love, money and relationships" with a hooker, for the next 16 years.

Mr Enternational

06-06-21, 23:08

Your first and only mistake, is trying to emulate and replicate that true "girlfriend experience" that ONLY a Brasileira can provide,Nahh. Happens all over the world. Mongers are over in Asia buying cars and building houses for hookers. He got off easy.

WyattEarp

06-06-21, 23:20

I don't believe that pushy is typical for Rio termas. In 20 years, I remember 2 pushy girls. One took a gentle hint and disappeared, another one got told off by another girl who didn't like her behavior. It's nothing to be concerned of, IMHO.

But, yeah, for clubs (boates) SP can't be beat. Still, Rio is a beautiful and fun city. Try to use these adjectives to describe SP, LOL.There's nothing wrong with the recurring debate of Rio vs. Sao Paulo. We all learn from the discussion. Newbies especially learn. Since I cut my Brazilian teeth on the Rio scene and I enjoy this tropical paradise, I am biased. Having said that, there is probably no place on earth that currently rivals Scandallo. It ain't that cheap either.

Pushy termas girls ain't no big thang. These girls are in sales. They usually get the hint if you are forceful. "I'm not interested. No thank you. " Walk away. I've had to be the five minute jerk in a dozen like venues around the world.

WyattEarp

06-06-21, 23:24

Nahh. Happens all over the world. Mongers are over in Asia buying cars and building houses for hookers. He got off easy.That is funny stuff Mr. E.

It's been awhile here since we have had a story of some foreigner buying a Brazilian chick a condo only to find out he's been locked out and taken.

The Cane

06-07-21, 00:46

Your first and only mistake, is trying to emulate and replicate that true "girlfriend experience" that ONLY a Brasileira can provide, with an Argentinian chica. What were you thinking? ...kkkk

Once again, thanks for sharing, your life hobbying experiences. I think more than anything, what I've gleaned from this experience (and others you've previously shared), is that you seem to like to have fun and the thrill of a good adventure, with some of semi-pro / pros, that you form a strong bond or connection with.

There is a middle-ground here and some might call it a "sweet-spot", in hobbying:

Now...there's the finger'em, fuck'em and pay'em and get the fuck out crowd and then...there's the I can turn a "hoe into a housewife" crowd.

On occasion, those that fall somewhere in between the two-ends of the spectrum, when we find a connection with a certain semi-pro / pro "hottie", may simply want to have some "short term" fun and adventure, with said hottie. For the most part, we are not always looking to make "hoes into housewives", nor are we looking to "kick'em to the curb" our earliest convenience.I've stood on that middle ground before. However, it's a rarity for me. Normally, I subscribe to the philosophy that we pay them to leave!

Spidy

06-07-21, 01:18

Nahh. Happens all over the world. Mongers are over in Asia buying cars and building houses for hookers. He got off easy.Oh, I don't doubt that for a second. But buying a airplane ticket vs buying a car, condo or house are miles apart in comparison.

What guys decide to spend on their companionship, in pursuit of their "hap-penis", is totally up to them. He had no regrets and I'm guessing, but would probably no doubt, take that minor risk again, for a potential great adventure and his inevitable "hap-penis". Monger On!

Steve 9696

06-07-21, 02:58

Oh, I don't doubt that for a second. But buying a airplane ticket vs buying a car, condo or house are miles apart in comparison.

What guys decide to spend on their companionship, in pursuit of their "hap-penis", is totally up to them. He had no regrets and I'm guessing, but would probably no doubt, take that minor risk again, for a potential great adventure and his inevitable "hap-penis". Monger On!Yep Spidy u said it well.

More power to Mr E if he is scoring hot 8's and 9's for free, but unless I'm mistaken this is basically a P4 P forum so most guys here are not. I am happy to pay for my 7-9.5's with NSA and no drama (to speak of). And as you say there are two types here (and Mr E) those who pay for sex and say goodbye at the end of an hour. And those that love having a paid girlfriend. I am the latter. I want the dinners. I want the dancing and sleep overs. But I'm not fool enough to think a 23 year old 9 is hanging with me because my fifty-something-ness is flat out awesome. I pay for the illusion and I enjoy it.

Good news is I was undeterred by my Valentina fail and flew Alexa (Vegas Sb) to Miami for a long weekend and it was fucking amazing. And I'll do it again soon with Mika. I love having a paid girlfriend and can afford it. Nothing but goodness as far as I'm concerned.

Vagabundo1

06-07-21, 03:14

Some of this excellent discussion by Mr E and others should be moved over to the non pro dating thread.

But Vagabundo would commend to we few, we happy few mongers, The Canterbury Tales, one tale about a gap toothed woman, who by the description most certainly was not a 8 + in looks. But the point is that if a man picks a woman strictly on her looks, or how her butthole looks when she is on all fours facing away from the camera in a boate, then a man is likely to be disappointed in the long run. OK, maybe sex is the ultimate short term adrenaline rush drug, which is what some worthy brothers of the blade on this board, like Safado69 say, and which I agree with. But I must say that even tonight Vagabundo went out with a quality woman, who has a real position, real history, real responsibilities, including a kid, and a sister, and Vagabundo was quite happy. I mean Vagabundo can get all the hot pussy, ass and mouth he wants, both branca and negra though he truly prefers morenas like Franceska Jaimes, of which there are many here in Rio. But to actually be out with a woman who has some character, like her own fucking car, like a job with a boss who is a important person, and who can get into places with quality people, not just some scum ball high end pimp who is really evil, well, that may well be the gap toothed woman of the Cantebury Tales. Is that strictly P4 P- you are always paying, Vagabundo paid for dinner at Na Brasa Colombia in Botafogo, but it's just meals and entertainment, 50% of which is GAAP deductible.

The point of this missive is that Mr. E was spot on right, stop trying to find a meaningful relationship with hookers. Or ex hookers.

Sperto

06-07-21, 04:02

This is a new drama series set in the 1970-1990 Rio that I've been thoroughly enjoying so far. A tight storyline, beautiful people, excellent acting, and I swear the screenshot of Help moved something in me even thought I never was a fan of the place, LOL. Highly recommended!I just finished watching the first season of "Dom". I liked it.
Of course they couldn't film a Help scene as it was closed 11 years ago, but the outside part of Help with the sign could fool some people. Still the garage was missing and Help wasn't in a residencial building.

Lefeu

06-07-21, 04:40

...Pushy termas girls ain't no big thang. These girls are in sales. They usually get the hint if you are forceful. "I'm not interested. No thank you. " Walk away. I've had to be the five minute jerk in a dozen like venues around the world.A long time ago, I was at Terma 65, I believe. There was this one girl who just would not leave me alone. She wanted a cita from me, and kept following me all over the place, trying to convince me to give her a try. That tactic tends to turn me off. After an hour or so, I decided to go straight to the mamasan (or manager) and asked her to intervene on my behalf. I never saw the girl after that.

Vagabundo1

06-07-21, 15:37

Spidy

06-07-21, 17:26

Veterans and newbies, should all take time to actually read what other people "actually" post and not just jump in willy-nilly, just for the sake of posting.

Yes there is a Brazil "Non-Pro Garotas. Opinions & Advice" thread. Use it when appropriate.

But, if BMs took the time to clearly read what was being said by their fellow BMs, you'd note that the recent discussion and conversations, have been mostly about the advantages, disadvantages, pro, cons, hazards and pitfalls and the like with regards to P4P and dating Semi-pros and Pros.

With all due respect, the conversion is right where it needs to be.

The Cane

06-07-21, 17:38

But the point is that if a man picks a woman strictly on her looks, or how her butthole looks when she is on all fours facing away from the camera in a boate, then a man is likely to be disappointed in the long run.If she's on all fours and you're already spying on her butt hole, then it's too late! Ahahaha!

WyattEarp

06-08-21, 00:22

I mean Vagabundo can get all the hot pussy, ass and mouth he wants, both branca and negra though he truly prefers morenas like Franceska Jaimes, of which there are many here in Rio.That's a bizarre coincidence because when I read your posts I picture Nacho Vidal telling the story.

Sperto

06-08-21, 05:48

I liked the first 10 minutes.
It is a sequel to tropa de elite, complete with the same music in the favela party. The favela looks like it is above copa, the entrance there near arpoador.
Cop with a son, same as Wagner Moura.The favela is Tabajaras, in the middle of Copacabana, above Copa D'Or. The seriado is entertaining but nothing like the famous "Cidade de Deus" or "Tropa de Elite". I liked "Dom" as it's based on a true story about "Pedro Dom". I remember reading about him in the papers in the beginning of 2000. He and his gang used to rob rich peoples home. Finally his career ended shortly after the police set up a road block in Túnel Rebouças.
Some scenes are filmed in João Pessoa, Recife and Bahia.
P.S Both Laila Garin and Isabella Santoni looks hot without clothes.

Spidy

06-08-21, 08:13

Easy solution is to stop trying to date hookers and find a normal girlfriend. ... I have been with my girlfriend for 4 years and she has never asked me for shit. ...

... The point of this missive is that Mr. E was spot on right, stop trying to find a meaningful relationship with hookers. Or ex hookers.
As it turns out, I do have several questions related to dating / relationships with non-pro women, should you care to continue discussing the subject matter in the Brazil "Non-Pro Garotas. Opinions & Advice" thread.

Global00

06-08-21, 12:45

Arrived in Rio around 9:00 am. Took a $14 one way flight from GRU to SDU after arriving from a 6:00 am overnight flight from New York. The new process of showing the PCR test and the health declaration confirmation is a little daunting. The custom agents had a line of Americans or English speakers held up because only one person could read the PCR results. After arriving at SDU, I head over to my $20 a night Airbnb in Copacabana with self check in. I take a short nap, wash up and get ready for the day.

Ave Treze de Maio, 33 Sala 2101/2102.

I bypass the guys giving our floors and head to the top floor. The elevator lady had to continually press the button to the 20th floor to get me there. I get to the 20th floor and go all the way to the end to 2101 and a pretty morena opens the door and let's me in. She takes me to a makeshift massage room and presents two other 18 and 20 year old morena spinners. One looked underage and the other was decent. But I like curves so I went with the girl who answered the door. Her name was Ana, 20 something (I forget her exact age) natural small titties and nice big tear shaped ass. I pay $80 for 30 minutes. She offered BBBJ without paying extra but said I was too big to do anal. The sex was decent, pussy was ok. I like that she put her ass up and face down in doggy and kept trying to look into my eyes LOL. She is the one in the red towel and standing up showing her ass in the pictures below.

After I finished up and took a quick cold shower, I went next door and sessioned with an enhanced chocolate woman I forget her name and age. I think she was in her late 20's. Anyway, pounded in doggy for 20 minutes for 50 reais and easily was able to finish a second time. There were 3 other girls there. One I thought I sessioned with before.

I walked down each floor to look for other Salas even though I didn't plan not do anything else there. Usually you can find the rooms because they have red mat or a Bem vindo Mat in front of the door. Also, you can follow the scent of incense.

I left the building and grabbed a prato executivo lunch at a supposedly Kuwaiti restaurant near the building before heading down into Uruguaiana 24.

There were about 15 girls there at around 3:30-4:00 pm. Morena and chocolate, from a few skinny, few spinners and some thick fatter ones. There was this one on the top floor who was pretty with braces, long hair, skinny with a nice medium round ass. I almost sessioned with her but she wouldn't do anal so I passed.

4 x4.

I never been to most of the termas (Monte Carlo being the exception) and I've been to Rio multiple times throughout the years. Went around 4:30 and there were about 15-20 girls there and two other dudes so naturally I was stared at and hounded by nearly all the girls at one point or another. The talent in here was decent, more in the curvy side. I had a long conversation with this 25 year old tall, skinny with abs, chocolate beauty named Jaiany. She could speak some English and we had an entertaining discussion about why she likes Bolsanaro and 3 somes with black men and blond chicks which were her favorite allegedly. She made me miss out on the thickest tallest girl there that I wanted to session with but I did enjoy the conversation. She and others told me they could meet me after hours, take me around Rio and fuck for like 300 reais but I passed. I ended up selecting a 21 year old morena with enhanced bubble butt and breast with braces. Her name was Varnaky?! I never heard it before and kept asking her it so I could make sure I was hearing it correctly. She agreed to anal so I took her for an hour. The room we had was freezing with A / see and tiny as hell LOL. She told me that she just got her ass finished and it was still sore so I was careful pounding it. But when we got into it she was the one doing the pounding. Took me forever to cum, sex was good, pussy and ass was ok but an overall funny experience (see pictures of shower and sideways ass). She was really nice and wanted to meet up later but I didn't take her whatsapp. Showered up and paid the bill which came to 461 reais.

Terma 65.

I was curious to check this place out based because of a recent review of the place and I wasn't disappointed. There were about the same amount or girls there and they were comparable to 4 x4 at a cheaper price. Most of that girls are curvy but there were a few skinny girls blancas there for all the colorist out there. There were two areas that I visited. The first was like a lounge area with music but not so loud where you could sit and talk. The other was the club with the lights and loud music. I think I saw the chick with the leopard dress there. She was tall super thick with nice enhancement, black hair. She and the next best looking girl who was chocolate with a fat ass were with a group of Indian looking guys who seems to buy out the bar. I ended up taking this average looking huge natural ass chick who eyed me and tracked me down as soon as I got in there. She basically said I could do anything I want so I said why not and I want disappointed. Definitely the best sex, pussy and ass of the day. Made me cum easily in her mouth. Gave me her whatsapp said she can come to me for 200 a night and do whatever I want as much as I want including bareback which surprised me. (see pictures of huge tattoo ass) The room didn't have a shower so I washed my dick in the sink, got my things paid 321 reais and went back to the apartment.

It's around 9 pm and I'm spent. I was planning to go to Villa Mimosa, Mabs, Dolce Vita and Perola Negra but I was spent and super satisfied. Will check out a few more spots later in the next few days.

Vagabundo1

06-08-21, 13:00

Well done, all around!

Ave Treze de Maio, 33 Sala 2101/2102.

The Cane

06-08-21, 13:13

I never been to most of the termas (Monte Carlo being the exception) and I've been to Rio multiple times throughout the years.Great start with your reporting, and glad to see you taking the time to enjoy some of the termas!

Turgid

06-08-21, 14:42

Yep Spidy u said it well.

More power to Mr E if he is scoring hot 8's and 9's for free, but unless I'm mistaken this is basically a P4 P forum so most guys here are not. I am happy to pay for my 7-9.5's with NSA and no drama (to speak of). And as you say there are two types here (and Mr E) those who pay for sex and say goodbye at the end of an hour. And those that love having a paid girlfriend. I am the latter. I want the dinners. I want the dancing and sleep overs. But I'm not fool enough to think a 23 year old 9 is hanging with me because my fifty-something-ness is flat out awesome. I pay for the illusion and I enjoy it.

Good news is I was undeterred by my Valentina fail and flew Alexa (Vegas Sb) to Miami for a long weekend and it was fucking amazing. And I'll do it again soon with Mika. I love having a paid girlfriend and can afford it. Nothing but goodness as far as I'm concerned.I envy you guys who can be happy spending a ton of time with the babes. I have a problem in that after I have come I basically can't think of anything else but distancing myself from the girl whether she was paid for or not. It was a major problem in the days when I had girlfriends. On very rare occasions I would have had a girl come over Friday with the intention of spending the weekend and by Saturday I'd be counting down for the time when she is to depart. It happens whether she is hot or not so hot. Even at FKKs where I bang stunner chicks, before the act I'd think that I could spend loads of time with her but after nutting that goes out the window and its on to the next chick. I honestly think its better spending more time with a fun chick but I can't seem to do it.

TiaVoyage25

06-08-21, 18:57

Take a knee, drink water, change your socks.

I have decided that my reports will be tailored to inform newbies to Rio, like myself. While I truly believe that RTFF is an important part of due diligence, it is often hard to paint a picture of the reality on the ground amidst a series of reports from a variety of people.

Necessary disclaimers: As previously stated, I am a young and good looking guy (if I must say so myself) so while I do enjoy P4 P immensely, I also spend a lot of time in the non-P4 P realm. For the sake of delivering comprehensive reports, I will provide accounts of both endeavors. Without further delay, let us begin. Keep in mind, this is my first ever trip to Brazil so I'm still learning.

Logistical information relevant for all:

If you are flying into GIG, there are 3 main floors (0, 1, and 2). You will arrive at 0 if you are in Terminal 1 or 2. On Floor 0 there are the annoying taxi hagglers, but also bank ATMs. I used these ATMs to get cash as it seemed relatively safe with a security guard on ground. Prior to exiting customs you can also exchange cash. I did this because it was 4.5 to 1 and I wasn't sure what the ATM situation would be. Sue me, 4.5 to 1 isn't 5 to 1 but I'm not here to pinch pennies – I wanted Reals just in case the ATMs were down.

On Floor 1, there is nothing of relevance except a Starbucks. Floor 2 is where you can get an Uber. Ignore the taxi hagglers on 0 and go straight up to Floor 2. Pro tip – try to get Uber VIP. There are a few ways to do this (do your research). It is the same price per ride as Uber X, except you get drivers that are guaranteed to have 4. 8+ ratings and over 1000 rides. Most of my drivers have had at least 10,000 rides and a 4.9+ rating, which makes one feel quite safe at no extra cost.

I arrived at my hotel in Copa too early to check in but walked around the beach for a while. It is funny because when I had my shirt on, the street hagglers wouldn't leave me alone. Once I took my shirt off, they stopped bothering me. This isn't because I am a "buff" guy (I'm not) or because I have tattoos, but rather because it helped me blend in. Pay attention to your surroundings! (and don't wear jewelry).

Also, this may come as a surprise to some, but you don't have to walk or Uber everywhere. There are Lime scooters all over the place that are quick and easy methods of transportation. Do mostly kids ride them? Yes. Do I only need 5-10 minutes to get to Ipa from Copa in peak traffic for less than a dollar? Also yes. I've gone all up and down Copa / Ipanema on those things. These scooters are EVERYWHERE.

Almost no one speaks English. Many understand Spanish. Learn Portuguese.

Day 1: Entirely non-P4 P.

Met a girl at the bar of my hotel and was convinced she was a working woman, but damn was I wrong. She was here by herself for some R&R but normally lives in a suburb just outside Rio. I couldn't believe that within 2 hours on ground that this was actually happening and believed it to be too good to be true. Struck up a conversation and got her number to meet up later. We'll get back to this.

Met up with some friends who have means much beyond my own and they brought me to what they claimed to be the most exclusive club in Rio (PM for name). The line outside was incredibly long and I've never seen so many beautiful women in one place. Picture the line to get into a place like 11 in Miami on a Friday in March, except better. Skipped the line and went right in. When I say there was not a single unattractive woman in this place, I mean it. All non-pros. As a child my father explained to me that there is no such thing as a perfect 10 because all women have flaws in some way. That being said, there were many, many, many 9. 9's running around. Friends had a table so got a bunch of drinks and about 4 numbers.

Moved on to a different club called Vitrinni which is in Barra. This place was awesome and since friends have significant means, we skipped the line again. Spent a lot of time here until about 4 am or so. Got a few more numbers. Heard a couple other young American guys talking in the place, but as I was with a group of Brazilians, I didn't want to go talk to them. Seemed like good guys though as they constantly had Brazilian girls around them! By the time I got back to my hotel in Copa, I had been awake for nearly 48 hours straight (I didn't sleep on my flight).

You don't need to have an "in" to a Brazilian social circle to meet non-pros, but my god does it help. Learn Portuguese.

Day 2: Non-P4 P and P4P Adventures.

After sleeping for 6 hours, I wake up and get lunch with the girl I met at the bar from the day before when I first arrived. Sweet girl, killer ass. Make plans to have dinner later this week in her town outside Rio. Her parents are excited she met a "sweet American boy". I think they want to meet me? Is this common in Brazil for a second date? I'll Uber there later in the week.

Text a few girls from the clubs the night before and set up a couple dates spread throughout the week. I expect a few of them to flake because that's just how women here are, according to my Brazilian friends.

OK you greedy mongers here is where the P4P comes in. I went to 4 x4, Centaurus, and Solarium. I went with Brazilians so they were leading the way the whole time.

4 x4.

Ubered here from the hotel. 4 x4 is located in centro and I didn't get to explore because we were dropped off at the front door. Checked in at the desk, got my robe. It was strange that the front desk was located between the lockers and the bar area, so if you want to use the bathroom you have to walk back and forth. Funny.

Within 5 seconds of the bar I was swarmed by a horde of unattractive women. The bar is literally 4 feet from the door and I could barely walk to it as I was getting grabbed at every step. Made my way to the bar, ordered drinks from the bartender who was a real cool dude. Sat down with friends to observe. I have to say I was painfully underwhelmed. Despite the big bundas, there were not very many pretty women around. And by not very many, I mean none (by my tastes, which are in shape big booty brancas). Maybe 25 girls in the place total with about 10 guys. I was hoping the talent would improve but it did not. I assume it is better on days that aren't Monday. Given the numerous positive reports across the forum, I will give this place another chance at some point. My Brazilian friends were loving the place though, which is good.

Centaurus.

Why don't people like this place besides the cost? My Brazilian friends were raving about this place because even though it is faux-fancy, the quality was pretty good. Is the quality worth the price? In the eye of the beholder I guess. Walked in through a setup that is meant to mimic Roman architecture. Paid the entry fee, got my robe, and went upstairs to the bar. Kind of a small place but overall pretty nice. The girls were not up to standard for what would expect for the price and décor of the place, but it was still pretty solid quality overall. Maybe 15 girls in the place with most being in the 6 or 7 range. One or two were 8's, no 9's. I saw a nice, pretty girl and had an amazing session with her despite the lack of a big bunda. A pretty morena with a great attitude and great service (let me finish on her face). No regrets there. Brazilian friends didn't session but waited for me while I did.

Solarium.

A little out of the way but in a nice little residential spot. Went inside, got my robe and got lost immediately. I had to make a phone call so my friends went in without me. After getting my robe, I saw several corridors and couldn't figure my way to get to the bar. After stumbling around like an idiot for a few minutes, I finally made it upstairs to the bar. Many pretty girls overall. Overheard several English speakers in this place. Girls were pretty, friendly, and not pushy. Did not session with a girl but my Brazilian friends did. There were about 20 girls here, mostly 6's, several 7's, one or two 8's, one or two 9's. Higher quality than Centaurus but just by a little bit. Waiters were attentive and professional. I'll definitely be back here.

This concludes Day 1 and Day 2. What's next? Touristy stuff, random dates with non-pros, Termas 65, Termas Monte Carlo, maybe a girl from BarrasVIP or Private55. I need more sleep, but more importantly, I need to find a top shelf big booty branca.

Gato1

06-08-21, 20:10

First time coming to Brazil in July (finally! I arrive on a Sunday at GIG close to midnight and suspect it will be around 2 am Monday when get through immigration and to hotel. I've not decided on where to stay yet. Any advise on lady options to get things started at that hour? Feel free to PM if you have contacts that would help set the bar very high to start this trip. Thanks in advance. I guess I could just wait and start Monday morning but I like to get a release or two shortly after landing if a quality option is available.

Anaggie

06-08-21, 23:28

Take a knee, drink water, change your socks.

I have decided that my reports will be tailored to inform newbies to Rio, like myself. While I truly believe that RTFF is an important part of due diligence, it is often hard to paint a picture of the reality on the ground amidst a series of reports from a variety of people.

Necessary disclaimers: As previously stated, I am a young and good looking guy (if I must say so myself) so while I do enjoy P4 P immensely, I also spend a lot of time in the non-P4 P realm. For the sake of delivering comprehensive reports, I will provide accounts of both endeavors. Without further delay, let us begin. Keep in mind, this is my first ever trip to Brazil so I'm still learning.

Logistical information relevant for all:

If you are flying into GIG, there are 3 main floors (0, 1, and 2). You will arrive at 0 if you are in Terminal 1 or 2. On Floor 0 there are the annoying taxi hagglers, but also bank ATMs. I used these ATMs to get cash as it seemed relatively safe with a security guard on ground. Prior to exiting customs you can also exchange cash. I did this because it was 4.5 to 1 and I wasn't sure what the ATM situation would be. Sue me, 4.5 to 1 isn't 5 to 1 but I'm not here to pinch pennies I wanted Reals just in case the ATMs were down.

On Floor 1, there is nothing of relevance except a Starbucks. Floor 2 is where you can get an Uber. Ignore the taxi hagglers on 0 and go straight up to Floor 2. Pro tip try to get Uber VIP. There are a few ways to do this (do your research). It is the same price per ride as Uber X, except you get drivers that are guaranteed to have 4. 8+ ratings and over 1000 rides. Most of my drivers have had at least 10,000 rides and a 4.9+ rating, which makes one feel quite safe at no extra cost.

I arrived at my hotel in Copa too early to check in but walked around the beach for a while. It is funny because when I had my shirt on, the street hagglers wouldn't leave me alone. Once I took my shirt off, they stopped bothering me. This isn't because I am a "buff" guy (I'm not) or because I have tattoos, but rather because it helped me blend in. Pay attention to your surroundings! (and don't wear jewelry).

Also, this may come as a surprise to some, but you don't have to walk or Uber everywhere. There are Lime scooters all over the place that are quick and easy methods of transportation. Do mostly kids ride them? Yes. Do I only need 5-10 minutes to get to Ipa from Copa in peak traffic for less than a dollar? Also yes. I've gone all up and down Copa / Ipanema on those things. These scooters are EVERYWHERE.

Almost no one speaks English. Many understand Spanish. Learn Portuguese.

Day 1: Entirely non-P4 P.

Met a girl at the bar of my hotel and was convinced she was a working woman, but damn was I wrong. She was here by herself for some R&R but normally lives in a suburb just outside Rio. I couldn't believe that within 2 hours on ground that this was actually happening and believed it to be too good to be true. Struck up a conversation and got her number to meet up later. We'll get back to this.

Met up with some friends who have means much beyond my own and they brought me to what they claimed to be the most exclusive club in Rio (PM for name). The line outside was incredibly long and I've never seen so many beautiful women in one place. Picture the line to get into a place like 11 in Miami on a Friday in March, except better. Skipped the line and went right in. When I say there was not a single unattractive woman in this place, I mean it. All non-pros. As a child my father explained to me that there is no such thing as a perfect 10 because all women have flaws in some way. That being said, there were many, many, many 9. 9's running around. Friends had a table so got a bunch of drinks and about 4 numbers.

Moved on to a different club called Vitrinni which is in Barra. This place was awesome and since friends have significant means, we skipped the line again. Spent a lot of time here until about 4 am or so. Got a few more numbers. Heard a couple other young American guys talking in the place, but as I was with a group of Brazilians, I didn't want to go talk to them. Seemed like good guys though as they constantly had Brazilian girls around them! By the time I got back to my hotel in Copa, I had been awake for nearly 48 hours straight (I didn't sleep on my flight).

You don't need to have an "in" to a Brazilian social circle to meet non-pros, but my god does it help. Learn Portuguese.

Day 2: Non-P4 P and P4P Adventures.

After sleeping for 6 hours, I wake up and get lunch with the girl I met at the bar from the day before when I first arrived. Sweet girl, killer ass. Make plans to have dinner later this week in her town outside Rio. Her parents are excited she met a "sweet American boy". I think they want to meet me? Is this common in Brazil for a second date? I'll Uber there later in the week.

Text a few girls from the clubs the night before and set up a couple dates spread throughout the week. I expect a few of them to flake because that's just how women here are, according to my Brazilian friends.

OK you greedy mongers here is where the P4P comes in. I went to 4 x4, Centaurus, and Solarium. I went with Brazilians so they were leading the way the whole time.

4 x4.

Ubered here from the hotel. 4 x4 is located in centro and I didn't get to explore because we were dropped off at the front door. Checked in at the desk, got my robe. It was strange that the front desk was located between the lockers and the bar area, so if you want to use the bathroom you have to walk back and forth. Funny.

Within 5 seconds of the bar I was swarmed by a horde of unattractive women. The bar is literally 4 feet from the door and I could barely walk to it as I was getting grabbed at every step. Made my way to the bar, ordered drinks from the bartender who was a real cool dude. Sat down with friends to observe. I have to say I was painfully underwhelmed. Despite the big bundas, there were not very many pretty women around. And by not very many, I mean none (by my tastes, which are in shape big booty brancas). Maybe 25 girls in the place total with about 10 guys. I was hoping the talent would improve but it did not. I assume it is better on days that aren't Monday. Given the numerous positive reports across the forum, I will give this place another chance at some point. My Brazilian friends were loving the place though, which is good.

Centaurus.

Why don't people like this place besides the cost? My Brazilian friends were raving about this place because even though it is faux-fancy, the quality was pretty good. Is the quality worth the price? In the eye of the beholder I guess. Walked in through a setup that is meant to mimic Roman architecture. Paid the entry fee, got my robe, and went upstairs to the bar. Kind of a small place but overall pretty nice. The girls were not up to standard for what would expect for the price and dcor of the place, but it was still pretty solid quality overall. Maybe 15 girls in the place with most being in the 6 or 7 range. One or two were 8's, no 9's. I saw a nice, pretty girl and had an amazing session with her despite the lack of a big bunda. A pretty morena with a great attitude and great service (let me finish on her face). No regrets there. Brazilian friends didn't session but waited for me while I did.

Solarium.

A little out of the way but in a nice little residential spot. Went inside, got my robe and got lost immediately. I had to make a phone call so my friends went in without me. After getting my robe, I saw several corridors and couldn't figure my way to get to the bar. After stumbling around like an idiot for a few minutes, I finally made it upstairs to the bar. Many pretty girls overall. Overheard several English speakers in this place. Girls were pretty, friendly, and not pushy. Did not session with a girl but my Brazilian friends did. There were about 20 girls here, mostly 6's, several 7's, one or two 8's, one or two 9's. Higher quality than Centaurus but just by a little bit. Waiters were attentive and professional. I'll definitely be back here.

This concludes Day 1 and Day 2. What's next? Touristy stuff, random dates with non-pros, Termas 65, Termas Monte Carlo, maybe a girl from BarrasVIP or Private55. I need more sleep, but more importantly, I need to find a top shelf big booty branca.If you are staying in Copa, here is the best place to change your money. Always the best rate available.

https://goo.gl/maps/ztTeQ48U212uwsqW9 San Diego Exchange and Tourism.

+55 21 3442-8116.

Xpartan

06-09-21, 00:49

Centaurus.

Why don't people like this place besides the cost? My Brazilian friends were raving about this place because even though it is faux-fancy, the quality was pretty good. Is the quality worth the price? In the eye of the beholder I guess. Walked in through a setup that is meant to mimic Roman architecture. Paid the entry fee, got my robe, and went upstairs to the bar. Kind of a small place but overall pretty nice. The girls were not up to standard for what would expect for the price and dcor of the place, but it was still pretty solid quality overall. Maybe 15 girls in the place with most being in the 6 or 7 range. One or two were 8's, no 9's. I saw a nice, pretty girl and had an amazing session with her despite the lack of a big bunda. A pretty morena with a great attitude and great service (let me finish on her face). No regrets there. Brazilian friends didn't session but waited for me while I did.

Solarium.

A little out of the way but in a nice little residential spot. Went inside, got my robe and got lost immediately. I had to make a phone call so my friends went in without me. After getting my robe, I saw several corridors and couldn't figure my way to get to the bar. After stumbling around like an idiot for a few minutes, I finally made it upstairs to the bar. Many pretty girls overall. Overheard several English speakers in this place. Girls were pretty, friendly, and not pushy. Did not session with a girl but my Brazilian friends did. There were about 20 girls here, mostly 6's, several 7's, one or two 8's, one or two 9's. Higher quality than Centaurus but just by a little bit. Waiters were attentive and professional. I'll definitely be back here.

This concludes Day 1 and Day 2. What's next? Touristy stuff, random dates with non-pros, Termas 65, Termas Monte Carlo, maybe a girl from BarrasVIP or Private55. I need more sleep, but more importantly, I need to find a top shelf big booty branca.I think you've just answered your own question. Centaurus, according to latest reports including your own, has gone downhill and doesn't hold a monopoly on stunners to justify a higher price tag.

Ave Treze de Maio, 33 Sala 2101/2102.

The sex was decent, pussy was ok. I like that she put her ass up and face down in doggy and kept trying to look into my eyes LOL. She is the one in the red towel and standing up showing her ass in the pictures below.

After I finished up and took a quick cold shower, I went next door and sessioned with an enhanced chocolate woman I forget her name and age. I think she was in her late 20's. Anyway, pounded in doggy for 20 minutes for 50 reais and easily was able to finish a second time. There were 3 other girls there. One I thought I sessioned with before.

4 x4.

She agreed to anal so I took her for an hour. The room we had was freezing with A / see and tiny as hell LOL. She told me that she just got her ass finished and it was still sore so I was careful pounding it. But when we got into it she was the one doing the pounding. Took me forever to cum, sex was good, pussy and ass was ok but an overall funny experience (see pictures of shower and sideways ass). She was really nice and wanted to meet up later but I didn't take her whatsapp. Showered up and paid the bill which came to 461 reais.

Terma 65.

I ended up taking this average looking huge natural ass chick who eyed me and tracked me down as soon as I got in there. She basically said I could do anything I want so I said why not and I want disappointed. Definitely the best sex, pussy and ass of the day. Made me cum easily in her mouth. Gave me her whatsapp said she can come to me for 200 a night and do whatever I want as much as I want including bareback which surprised me. (see pictures of huge tattoo ass) The room didn't have a shower so I washed my dick in the sink, got my things paid 321 reais and went back to the apartment.

It's around 9 pm and I'm spent. I was planning to go to Villa Mimosa, Mabs, Dolce Vita and Perola Negra but I was spent and super satisfied. Will check out a few more spots later in the next few days.So after busting your nuts 5 times (if I haven't missed anything) you were spent, huh? Well, god bless. Takes me just 2 if I'm lucky, LOL.

Thank you for your report. Looking forward for more of them.

The Cane

06-09-21, 01:26

Guys,

Please don't respond to a long report by re-posting the whole report just to leave some short response, like "great post" or something. It fills up the page with unnecessary repeat info, and requires too much scrolling to get to the new stuff. It's an etiquette thing. Cut down the quoted report to the parts of it you want to address. Or if it's just a general "kudos" you want to give, consider not quoting the report at all, and putting something in the title to help others know who or what you're writing about. Every now and then this comes up. Now that we're getting reports again, I thought I would bring it up.

TiaVoyage25

06-09-21, 06:11

Late start to the day as I am still catching up on sleep. Had a strange afternoon date of sorts where I walked around Ipanema with one of the girls I met at Vitrinni two nights ago (non-pro). Friendly and bubbly personality, but got the vibes she is looking for a husband and / or a green card. She wouldn't stop talking about Los Angeles. I hate LOS Angeles. More to follow if this goes anywhere.

Had an early dinner and headed over to Termas Monte Carlo.

Monte Carlo.

Walked in, was shown the prices, changed into a robe. Went to the next floor and saw that the facilities were pretty decent, but only cold water for the showers. Fine, I guess. Move on to the next floor where there is a bar around and also a separate lounge area across the hall. The second I walked through the doors into the bar it was almost like I was in 4 x 4 again. Swarmed by a horde of mediocrity. Bee-line to the bar, order a drink, sit down. Girls all stand up to do a little dance and present themselves. It was almost painful to watch. Strike that. It was painful to watch. There were about 15-20 girls total and by my standards only like 3 were do-able. Of those 4, none were higher than a 7. One of those was admittedly an 8 in the face but her body left a lot to be desired. At this point I just want to be left alone to contemplate my poor decision making.

I decided on one of the do-able girls who was a 6.5 at best because I was tired and didn't feel like going to any of the other termas. Nothing special but great GFE. I don't even seek / want / care for / need GFE. I honestly prefer PSE. Nonetheless, she was a great performer and earned every last Real. She was a morena as the big booty brancas continue to be MIA. I've talked to a few from BarraVIP but, even though the total cost would be cheaper than a termas, I like the termas vibe when the girls aren't swarming you like flies.

Assessment: I was woefully unimpressed and honestly would have preferred 4 x4. Not worth the price. Thus far, hottest girls were at Solarium, followed by Centaurus. 4 x4 and Monte Carlo would compete for the bottom spot, but if this forum proves to be accurate, I just caught 4 x4 on a bad night. I'm probably not going to revisit Monte Carlo again unless I'm in a spot where I just don't want to uber anywhere. Centaurus is probably not up for a repeat visit either because, despite the vibe, the cost to girl quality ratio just isn't there. Like I said before, the quality isn't bad at all. Just not worth it for the overall price. Facilities are great though so I can't take that away from them. After thinking on it a bit, I can now understand why Centaurus gets a lot of flack here. Yes, it is a nice place with nice looking girls but the price point just isn't there. I'm not even pinching pennies and I recognize that unnecessary expense there.

Will definitely hit up Solarium again. 4 x4 will be given another chance, as promised. Termas 65 is still on the list. A few more dates with non-pros are still lined up so balancing this schedule is proving to be difficult. BarraVIP and / or Private55 will happen at some point.

Now, time for more sleep to hopefully have visions of where these elusive top shelf big booty brancas are.

Cheers,

TV25.

Vagabundo1

06-09-21, 12:19

Here are some maps which may be helpful, but may also need to be updated. Even if out of date, it is good examples of the kind of "intelligence prep of the battlefield" you want to do before you put your boots on ground.

Bubba Boy on why go to tier 2 termas.

This is straight from the Bubba Boy Guide:

"The longer I spend in Rio, the more I head to the cheaper places and the prives, basically you can find some real gems for a fraction of the price of the expensive places. The only downside is that the cheaper places tend to have less of a choice, this can be overcome by going to 2 or 3 on the same night. Entrance is generally are $ 10 to are $ 20 and the girl maybe are $ 100, hence with a bit of work you can bang some one as hot or even hotter than at the expensive places for just are $ 150, half the price and twice the fun!.

Global00

06-09-21, 14:48

I slept in until about noon for some much needed rest. I woke up to a flurry of Bumble and Tinder likes. I'm up to over a 100 so far in two days so I decided to see what was out there in the supposed non pro world. The age range was from like 18-40 year, slot of single moms and not the best looking but a bunch were definitely doable. I would say 3 of them were above the rest and one in particular I had to respond to. My goal for this trip was to monger in Rio and Sao Paulo and do the non pro stuff in an off beaten city like Goiânia that I never been to but I couldn't resist this hottie. We exchange WhatsApp and set up at date in the early evening. I knew there was a huge probability I wouldn't be able to smash tonight so I better go get something beforehand.

Villa Mimosa.

When I initially came to Rio the first couple of times, there were some absolute diamonds in the rough here. In the last couple of years, I haven't been so lucky or my monger goggles have adjusted a bit. Either way, I always check this place out at least once for nostalgia. I got there around 6 pm and there were about 25-30 girls in the area. The best looking girls were the spinners with baby faces no baby damage that I could recognize. I like meaty girls so I passed on them but I couldn't remember seeing so many good looking spinners there which were about 5-6 of them. I was able to find two girls with decent sized butts and decent stomachs that didn't show any baby damage. Their face wasn't nothing to write home about but that doesn't matter much to me as long as it's somewhat symmetrical and clean LOL. I first sessioned with a 23 year old morena in the pictures below. She had a name I can't remember but couldn't pronounce because it had like 3 weird syllables and a name I never heard of LOL. Her pussy was surprisingly tight and meaty. It looks amazing hitting it from the back. She let me get pictures without even asking for a tip but I have her one anyway.

The other girl was a coco brown massive round ass 24 year old name Lais. She had a beautiful puffy one slit pink pussy that contrasted well with her skin tone. He pussy wasnt as tight but it was wet and warm so I was able to finish with a little work. Both sessions were 60 reais for 30 minutes.

For those who haven't been to Villa Mimosa, it's worth a shot just to peek in and see what is there you could be surprised. Yes, it's not the cleanest place on earth and certain pockets outside smell like waste water and shit LOL and the rooms are not the greatest or cleanest. But you can find gems here if you come during the right times and you don't have to fuck them there. And if none of that comes true, it's just a good story to tell and an hour out your day to get back to your regular schedule program LOL.

Non Pro date.

After getting my nut out and I'm more relaxed, I go back to the apartment shower up and get dressed. She lives in NiteróI so I Uber her to me and we then went to Toruk Sushi. She wanted japanese so I just Google the first restaurant I could fine that was close to the apartment. This girl was stunning in person. She is about 5'8, natural double the's if not bigger proportional waist to a massive ass. I couldn't tell if her ass was fake but her breast look real. She had has Asiatic-indian shaped brown eyes with these huge thick sucking lips. Amazingly beautiful. We chatted a bit, I know some Portuguese but I needed practice and had to use the Google translator more than I wanted to. She is 25 from Goiânia and works some retail cosmetics job. No kids. She told me she is weary of foreigners because they come here to collect women LOL. I wanted to say well you are with one trying to do just that LOL. After dinner we go back to the apartment and I have some hope that this thing might actually happen. I get some drinks before heading up and we watch Netflixs for a bit. Then the heavy kissing and rubbing starts and I think I'm about to smash. But she stops me in my tracks and says she would like me to stay in Rio for her birthday and Brazilian valentine's day. Which basically is code for if you wine and dine me those days you can fuck LOL. So I let up and tell her I will think about it and what I can do. She says ok and we watch some more Netflix before she goes home for the night. No score but I will try again before I leave. It's worth the risk and I schedule the day early just in case I didn't score tonight.

Japanese Brazilian Santa Clara 46 Apt 601.

After I ordered her Uber home, I immediately contacted this japanese Brazilian girl name Mia that I found off GPArena. She wanted 300 reais for an hour and 400 with anal. It was more than I wanted to pay but I also wanted to fuck a japanese mix which usually you find in Sao Paulo. So luckily she was a 10 minute walk away. I took a lime scooter to her apartment and she let me in. She had on the exact same outfit on as her picture but something looked off. I don't know if she looked older or gained weight but I wasn't feeling it for 300 so I canceled. She was so mad and didn't to open up the gate to let me out and asked me to pay the full amount. I told her I would climb this gate and give her bad reviews if the didn't let me out. This bum was laying right next to the entrance and heard the who thing and was laughing at the convo LOL. She finally let me out and I took a Uber to Perola Negra.

Perola Negra.

If you read any reports from Vagabundo then you have heard about this place. Since I believe he lives here, I respect his post and advice and wanted to see what it had to offer. The ride out to Barra took about 25 minutes without traffic. I always like the view driving back and forth to Barra. I use to date this girl I met when she came to visit Disney in the states and she let me stay with her in Barra for a little while.

The club has a set up like most of the bar / clubs in Rio. There is an entrance where they give you a sheet of paper to track your drinks and food and you pay when you leave. When you enter in the bar / club there are disco lights, a bar loud music and benches near the walls with fixed tables and a stripper pole in the middle. There were about 20 girls or less. Decent stock but I didn't see any stunners. I would say the age range was from 18-30, and a mostly Morenas, a few brancas and few a few coco browns. There were about 5-6 guys there so naturally I got a lot of attention. About half the girls sat by me and tried to start a convo and proposition me to buy them drinks and our convince me for a session. I was quoted 250-300 reais an hour. Even one of the waiters tried to convince me to take one of the girls he said was the best in the club LOL. You had a range of different body types. The most eye catching was this tall blond who had beautiful curves and love to dance and shake her ass. Well, most of the girls there seems to love to dance and pop there ass in your face. There was this guy make finger this one girl as she was facing him sitting on the table with her legs spread open. Brazil is amazing. I didn't session with anyone which gave some of the girls pouty face that I wouldn't take them. I left and paid 90 reais for a water, guanarna, french fries and I guess the entrance fee.

Mabs and Dolce Vita.

The Uber driver dropped me off at 1:30 am at Dolce Vita and it was closed. I took a lime scooter down to Mabs and there was about 5 unimpressive girls there and not too many customers. They laughed at me on the scooter when rolled into Mabs. I then went to this place called Lux and there about 3 more unimpressive girls there so I scooted back to my apartment and went to sleep. Will try to meet the non Pro tomorrow and if that doesn't work out hit some more termas.

Member #4729

06-09-21, 15:21

Note: my updates are more diaristic than much of the other content here, its just how it comes out- I can't help it. Skip over them if you prefer more hard nosed reportage with more directly utilitarian application.

When last checking in Zebra was licking the wounds from a failed relationship with GDP Lucrezia. Not missing a beat, other GDP Letitia swoops in to fill the gap, suggesting a Sunday of her doing laundry and making lasagna at my well appointed Airbnb in Ipanema, to which I agree. After arriving she sets up her clothes and gets the lasagna started and gives me a BBBJ to ease my sufferings and I cum on that pretty face with a roar. She likes when I call her "p*ta". Satiated, we spend the next few hours curled up on the couch, relaxing, watching tv as the clothes wash and lasagna bakes. At one point her GDP friend comes over to share in the lasagna, and then rolls a special cigarette. I'm sitting on the couch with these two beautiful young women, smoking said cigarette, what a decadent life. Letitia upping the ante, starting to deep French kiss for the first time and appears very aroused after the cigarette. As things get steamy, her friend leaves, and we commence to a great session with more intimacy than previous. Seems like she's gunning for the GF spot.

Or so it did. Soon after coitus, she receives a message on zap and her demeanor changes. She swaps into a new cute outfit, and heads out the door without explaining. We both know where she's going, so what's the point I suppose? Once gone I am laughing to myself- I like the transparency. This is what you are going to get with a GDP, she's working all the time- that's her job- I suppose you can accept it or dip out. At this point I'm rolling with it and find it hilarious. During those two or three hours I actually message a GDP I had met a few weeks back at Marrakech and arrange a visit for the following day (Monday). Letitia comes back a few hours later and we pick up where we left off and then fall asleep embracing on the couch finally moving to the bed for the night.

The next day I decide I contact the other girl, lets call her Muna. Muna- 19 years old, very thin Negra, huge tits (not sure if real). Agrees to BBBJ, CIM, 300. Says she can be at my place at 3 pm. As the hour grows closer I get a series of messages that perhaps, no, not 3. More like 3:30. Then at 3:30 I get a message she's getting her hair done and will head over when she's finished. At around 4:15 I message her and she's finally ready to come over- looks up an uber and sends me the screenshot which is 67 reals. I'm like, wtf that's really high where are you coming from? Nilopolis. What, that's like 2 hrs away. I tell her I had no idea and we should just cancel. She's already 1 HR late, now will be 2 more, plus all I really wanted was a quick BJ. Ridiculous. One should expect the flake in this hobby so its not a huge letdown because it will happen- again and again. I wasted a few Viagra on that however, so just end up masturbating and then go and meet the ISG poster Miami Boy for a beer and food- a GDP as it turns out had flaked on him as well.

Miami Boy is a cool guy, we have a lot in common as far as mongering- but different enough tastes as well so as not to be in competition. We resolve to go to Terma 65 the next day if his SA doesn't flake. Sure enough the next day his SA flakes and so off we go at around 3:30, get there at 4.

Terma 65- great atmosphere. My favorite so far. Not so much bunda grande as 4 x4, the talent is a little thin but still passable. Miami Boy and I spot this cute Branca spinner in a pink bikini and I waste no time and go in for the kill. She's willing to session 30 minutes and do BBBJ, CIM. She's a little shy in the boate, but in the cabine, DFK, and turns into a little s, takes the cock enthusiastically and deep with mouth open. I don't even last long enough to get around to intercourse and cum in her mouth about 10-15 minutes in in one of the best shots of the trip. This girl is gorgeous. Says she's 20, but could easily be 18. Amazing time.

Back in the boate Miami Boy is amazed I took so little time, asks if he could have a shot at her. Why not, free country. When the young Branca comes over we kiss a bit, and then I push her over to Miami Boy, and she's happy to oblige him as well with a session that I will leave him to describe. After doing us back to back she disappears and does not come back to the boate, so we have a drink and then head off to Manhattan. Total damage is 305 reals. A fraction of Monte Carlo for just as good of a time, if not better. Great value here.

Manhattan is an interesting boate, as usual we are getting the hard sell from the GDP's, but since our balls have just been thoroughly drained, we tell the ladies we are looking. Its an ok club, nothing I would do, but worth popping in – only cost 50 which I think included a drink or two.

Heading back to Ipanema, Miami Boy and myself grab some dinner and I arrange for Letitia to come over. Its raining and it clear she won't make much money freelancing in Posto 2, so whether because I'm super cool or she's realistic, I get a 300 pernoite- which is also what I paid for lasagna night / day. This is half of what I was paying Lucrezia for pernoite, with better service, it really helps to stick around for a few weeks- once these girls get to know you and like you, their price points become more realistic. Pernoite went great, Letitia just left and I'm typing this.

Currently in communication with the young Branca from Terma 65 to arrange a visit. If she can't I'm sure I will be going back for another round. All in all I had a great time at Terma 65 and its nice to have a wingman in Miami Boy, who I think has convinced me to go to Colombia in July and give that scene another shot.

Zebra Out.

Member #4729

06-09-21, 15:23

Take a knee, drink water, change your socks.

This concludes Day 1 and Day 2. What's next? Touristy stuff, random dates with non-pros, Termas 65, Termas Monte Carlo, maybe a girl from BarrasVIP or Private55. I need more sleep, but more importantly, I need to find a top shelf big booty branca.Great report, welcome to the Jungle!

Mr Enternational

06-09-21, 15:45

Prior to exiting customs you can also exchange cash. I did this because it was 4.5 to 1 and I wasn't sure what the ATM situation would be. Sue me, 4.5 to 1 isn't 5 to 1 but I'm not here to pinch pennies I wanted Reals just in case the ATMs were down.I am suing you. Just on the other side of that door you could have gotten a much better rate from the guys in the white uniforms. I would even suggest negotiating with them for an even better rate than what they tell you right off.

4 x4 It was strange that the front desk was located between the lockers and the bar area, so if you want to use the bathroom you have to walk back and forth. Funny.Actually there is a toilet in the bar area. You could probably stand outside the door and pee into the toilet from there is how small it is.

WyattEarp

06-09-21, 16:33

I think you've just answered your own question. Centaurus, according to latest reports including your own, has gone downhill and doesn't hold a monopoly on stunners to justify a higher price tag.Some of the young guys might not understand the aversion to Centaurus that's developed over the years. Not too long it was a big deal. Centaurus seemed to employ many pretty, European type girls. This and it's convenient location for tourists seemed to allow it to charge a high price. They also put mongers through a lot of rigamarole. They would require payment for a session upfront when you entered at the reception. The club would also assign a girl to walk around with you. Some members would find it hard to easily shake the girl off. The atmosphere could also be described as lame.

As time went on, I seemed to find more and more attractive girls at 4 x4 and Solarium. For many of us, Centaurus lost whatever advantage it had. The mystique is gone.

Yossarian

06-09-21, 18:00

Yossarian

06-09-21, 18:02

Yossarian

06-09-21, 18:18

Some of the young guys might not understand the aversion to Centaurus that's developed over the years. Not too long it was a big deal. Centaurus seemed to employ many pretty, European type girls. This and it's convenient location for tourists seemed to allow it to charge a high price. They also put mongers through a lot of rigamarole. They would require payment for a session upfront when you entered at the reception. The club would also assign a girl to walk around with you. Some members would find it hard to easily shake the girl off. The atmosphere could also be described as lame.

As time went on, I seemed to find more and more attractive girls at 4 x4 and Solarium. For many of us, Centaurus lost whatever advantage it had. The mystique is gone.Yeah, cerca 2017 I heard that place was a pain in the ass and not worth the $$$ or the hassles. It's not like there's not a lot of available pussy in Rio whether it be P4P or non-pro to deal with their BS.

YaySteez

06-09-21, 23:44

One Eyed Man

06-10-21, 02:55

Oops. My bad. I just did that before reading this advice. Noted!When I was there, they wanted you to pay in advance for a session, but you could decline. If you decided to session, then you had to pay before. I don't want to patronize a business that doesn't trust the customers. That made the place feel very mercenary, and I haven't been back since.

The Critic

06-10-21, 08:27

TiaVoyage25, Global00, and ZebraStripes81

Good format and nice reading. Good commentary.

Vagabundo1

06-10-21, 13:05

Barra. Go to Paris and Perola Negra, VM. Go to Mosaico.

If you are in Barra for Perola Negra, also go to Paris cafe. The uber loira / branca are to be found at Paris. The specific one I am thinking of is a blond, like an Amber Lynn blond, who was from Portugal. As Hemingway said, in Portugal, the wives are more beautiful than the mistresses.

If you are in VM, go to Mosaico. Best after 11 PM, and actually best after 2 AM. Generally the top girls from the zona sul termas, like 4 x 4, go to Mosaico to party with other cariocas. It is all clothed, it is wild, and fun, but not for the faint of heart. It is not quite a favela funk party (and I have never been, just thinking of the scenes from Tropa de elite, and Dom). The best girls over the years for mini relationships have come from Mosaico (and Club Red Light before it closed), and 502.

Yesterday, vagabundo went to TDM33/2106 after a recce of several of the prives, and sessioned with a 19 yo morena with huge natural tits, no kids, a very nice afternoon, after a non pro lunch date. 120 r for a hour, though it was posted 40 minutes.

economist.com has a comprehensive report on Brazil in last week's issue. Well worth reviewing.

Vagabundo1

06-10-21, 15:52

Superb report.

When In Barra, also go to paris cafe.

Av. Das Américas, 15105 - Recreio dos Bandeirantes, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22640-100.

When in VM, also go to Mosaico, after midnight, and best after 2 AM.

I also strongly recommend a flat in Botafogo vice Copa to avoid the criminal threat, and pick one within walking distance of metro botafogo, and ideally bambina. The best hotel by far is panda.

Will try to meet the non Pro tomorrow and if that doesn't work out hit some more termas.

Bravo

06-10-21, 18:15

Nounce

06-10-21, 18:56

does anyone of a office or business center in Rio with fast internet, that I can rent for one week and work off my laptop?Have you checked WeWork?

TiaVoyage25

06-10-21, 20:25

It's becoming a blur of sorts. Yea this was Day 4.

Will just start us off around dinner. Went to Carretao off of Rua Siqueria Campos and Atlantica in Copa. Can't believe how much food and drink I got for the equivalent of like $30. I recommend this place.

Went back to the hotel, texted MiamiBoy and decided to meet up at Termas 65.

Termas 65 - about 9 PM.

We walked in and immediately went to the top floor bar. It was packed. With dudes. There were maybe 1 or 2 attractive girls running around the place but I think some young Brazilian guys were having a party for one of their friends so they were preoccupied. We then we down to the lounge area where only a few girls were hanging out, but it was much quieter so we could relax and drink more. We spent most of our time on this level and saw a good amount of girls come in and out, but like I said before, only 1 or 2 were even in the 7 or so range. Probably 20-25 girls in the whole place between both areas / the rooms. We were here for about an hour and a half then went on over to 4 x4.

4 x4 - about 1030 PM.

We walked in and I immediately thought, damn not again. But I decided to exercise some patience and was not disappointed. By 11 several more attractive girls had walked in and all was right in the world. I made a good acquaintance with the lady who is the manager of the place and she asked me if one of my friends had left an ID at 4 x4 from the day or two previously. If you're from Texas and missing your driver's license, it's at 4 x4 LOL. Lots of English speakers in this place.

MiamiBoy and I get a few drinks and are just enjoying the atmosphere. He sessions with an attractive big booty branca but I'll let him share that. I wait a while, perhaps too long, and by the time the place was about to close I am left with limited options. Fortunately, the two options left were quite decent. Decided to go with two pretty morenas for a threesome. Between the entrance fee, several drinks I ordered, a tip for the bartender (willingly given, not asked for), a 30 min threesome with the two girls, and the room - 700 R. I was honestly shocked. Great value.

The session itself was great even though the girls didn't speak a word of English, nor did they understand Spanish. Enthusiastic and friendly, GFE even though I didn't ask for it. I blew my load about 20 minutes in and the girls immediately tried to get me going again. The girl took my phone and said, "why did you finish? Can you go again?" Unfortunately, my dear, the refractory period lasts more than the 10 seconds between me blowing my load and your mouth going back on my dick. Like I said, great session and great value.

So at this point I must readjust my rankings. 4 x4 has proven itself to be of great value and a great atmosphere. The manager said it will be busy later in the week as well since the bar downstairs will be open. I will visit Solarium again to see which place earns the top spot in my book. Maybe I'll give Termas 65 another whirl because MiamiBoy said it was better the previous day when he went. If your wallet allows, I'd still recommend newbies go to Monte Carlo and Centaurus just for the sake of experiencing all of the Tier 1 termas, but I am personally not a fan of them. Maybe I'm missing something, but is there a perfect time to show up to a specific termas?

One last point and I think it is definitely worth mentioning as a tribute to the 4 x4 staff. They have been the friendliest of the places I have been to so far, but on top of that, at the end of the night the manager made a point to emphasize to me to order an uber from inside and not to go outside until it arrives even though 4 x4 itself was closed. I must have waited 10 minutes for my uber (I always use UberVIP to ensure top drivers) so it took a while, but the doormen were still chillin and didn't mind.

Jazzy Daddy

06-10-21, 21:33

There's a lot of magic playing Bird, Miles and Monk to samba rhythms, especially if you are playing them in Rio. Great group of musicians, couldn't be better even if there was no audience. Tuesday set up a dupla in copa, arrived and the girls tells me that their dupla is first one girl and then the other. I say no that's not how it works, so they agree and then they ask me to pay in advance. I was out the door in ten seconds! So Wednesday I setup a real one with a couple of amazing twenty somethings. Starting off with one gata deep french kissing and getting deep-throated by other and having them swap places is a Dupla. Nothing else in the world, IMHO, than having a gatas tongue in your ass while the other gata is deep-throating you, both doing it as if they just learned the world was ending in five minutes.

Vagabundo1

06-10-21, 22:58

Vagabundo headed over to centro on the bus that leaves at 14 h20 from av gastao senges 185 to Centro, av presidente wilson 147, via the neimeiyer coastal route along sao conrado, to p12 to p1 in leblon. Copa. Having swam an obligatory 200 m in the pool, and taken this tourist luxury bus, Vagabundo counts himself as having checked the boxes of luxury living in the 3 d rate rundown hotel apartment that is the former Transamerica, much like some converted shithole hotel a few blocks back from Collins St in Miami, maybe like the one where Scarface gets in the chainsaw fight with the Colombians, or like the Hotel Cecil described in the Netflix special, if it were set between Santa Monica and Figueroa at Gage, if those mongering landmarks were but 2 blocks apart from each other, such is the bizarro world of mongering that Vagabundo inhabits.

Vagabundo takes a leisurly stroll from Av Presidente Wilson, across the historic expanse of the once majestic, now tragic, central square on Rio Branco, past the opera house with the statue that looks like Mark Twain, but is actually, of course, a Brazilian artist. Vagabundo takes the elevator up to TDM33 - 3206, and hits a one shot, one kill, session of 30 minutes for 80 plus a caixinha of 20, with a long legged morena who Vagabundo has previously posted about, which is a bad idea of course, as the locals read this board. A nice blow job, 69, a cowgirl ride until her long legs are tired, a smooth missionary, and a finish in doggy style, all while overlooking Guanabara bay in all its lurid, stinking, glory, like the waters of a pussy that has been jizzed in for 500 years by Portuguese and French, often battling each other, as well as Hamburg Sud, and the other big 4 shipping lines, on a king sized bed, in a nice sized cabin, all in all, a fine spot to blow a load.

The bus back to Barra is at 16 h10, 17 h20,19 h30, and other times posted on the site.

http://m.associacaomediterraneo.com/horario-onibus-van-balsa/onibus/

But Vagabundo never remembers the exact times, which is why he scribbles them here, to reinforce his memory, and in any case, vagabundo has no patience, so he jumps a 309 back to Barra. He doesn't mind -- in fact he likes riding a city bus -- he sometimes picks up a non pro on the bus, a degree of difficulty that he likes, but then, Vagabundo is a bit of a outlier in many ways.

If one is worried about security, then one would appreciate the "defense in depth" of Transamerica. Not only are there broad avenues all around, but the South side is on a canal, over which particular condo boats carry the moredors (the residents). And in Transamerica, there are the best hookers in Brazil, the girls of barravipsrio dot com when they are first starting. In fact, while finishing his laps, Vagabundo was pulled off course by the site of a new hooker taking her pretty girl pictures at the pool, stepping in and out of the shower, the ladder, to get her bunda in the light. Even though Vagabundo prefers a bundinha, he had to admire the effort, as she posed in various lurid poses.

The way to any Brazilian woman's heart, soul, and frontal cortex on the side that controls emotion is to offer to take pictures of her, at her command, and to advance her career as a supermodel, or at least a super hooker.

Exec Talent

06-10-21, 23:47

I have a 4 week vacation planned next month and I was just notified that I might have to work remotely for one of those weeks. If my WIFI connection in the hotel or air bnb is slow, does anyone of a office or business center in Rio with fast internet, that I can rent for one week and work off my laptop?I have used:

https://www.regus.com/en-us/brazil/rio-de-janeiro

Not just in Rio but other countries as well.

Also have had arrangements with hotels and apartment rental agencies but they were more like friends and family deals.

Vagabundo1

06-11-21, 00:12

Wework has an office in barra.

Regus is in the same building in Botafogo as a leading ibank. BTGPactual.

Of course, in a building like TDM33 (Treze de maio 33), there appear to be tons of vacant offices even above suite 3206 which is the highest prive I know of, and it would be efficient to have your balls drained by professionals for the same reasons that the matt mconnahay (terrible spelling) character in Wolf of Wall Street discusses in an early scene. Get the poison out while trading in a local where the market opens at a reasonable hour.

I have used:

https://www.regus.com/en-us/brazil/rio-de-janeiro

Not just in Rio but other countries as well.

Also have had arrangements with hotels and apartment rental agencies but they were more like friends and family deals.

Member #4729

06-11-21, 02:13

I arise from slumber and check my whatsapp. Several emojified messages from Letitia who had an earache the night before and was opining that it's times like this when she feels all alone that maybe it would be good to actually have a real boyfriend. I sympathize and tell her to drink some hot water and pretend her pillow is her boyfriend. Not too long later I see she has recovered and is posting IG stories drinking and dancing on the beach- boyfriend ennui did not last long. Also in the queue- Miami Boy relating his ever-flaking attempts with SA and Terma adventures the night before with ISG poster TiaVoyager. I wonder if our paths will ever cross- I'm allowing the universe to work for me rather than try to work the universe so I do hope so, but if not that's cool as well.

I hit the gym and then grab an omelete (pronounced ah-ma-let-che) at Beach Sucos in Ipanema.

On the way back to the pad I duck into Pacheco and on a whim buy 2 boxes of Levitra- not the generic but the actual on brand kind. I've been taking generic variations of sildenafil across the globe to varying effects- nothing ever that impressive resulted in the quality of wood- but Miami Boy has mentioned that things like Tadalafil and Vardenafil are available to purchase here the night before and it sparks the fire of curiosity.

Soon enough I'm on an uber to central having just taken one Levitra and a couple of generic sildenafil 30 min previously and can feel a slight warm sensation come over me and a flushing in my face. Hmm. Strong stuff. I'm dropped off at Terma 502, which is basically an unmarked door next to some sort of copy shop, get a card from the porteiro, and head up to see the action. Drum roll- there is no action. Only myself, one well worn SW with saggers, and one slightly younger SW who although possibly do-able, is not making eye contact with me despite us 3 humans being the only sentient creatures present in an otherwise empty boate which reminds me of something in between senior prom and Cheetahs strip club in Pompano Beach. I mean, Hello, ? As I sip on a Budweiser that flushed, warmish sensation begins to grow stronger. I'm sweating- is it hot in here or is it me? Anyways, the lady and door man say things won't pick up until 20:00 hrs so its off to Terma 65 where I scored one of the previous nights with a smoking hot Morena who's oral skills were among the best yet.

Terma 65 is full of girls and a couple of silver foxes with lumpy physiques and huge Cheshire grins on their over 60 mugs. Their advanced age is no deterrent to a swarm of nubile 20 something ladies who hover in and among the group like little hummingbirds sipping on nectar- which in this case is money and possibly older gentleman semen. I feel incredibly hot- I can't even breath and need to head into the hall for a minute to catch my breath. That Levitra has affected my system in ways unanticipated. Returning to the boate I decompress in an empty sofa and achieve a state of equilibrium. The hot little branca / Morena is nowhere to be found- but there is a half Japanese girl I met at Kalabria a few weeks earlier who swoops in to chat. Nice enough girl- introduces me to her timid friend (the Portuguese word for shy is timida- pronounced "chim-ee-dah") with braces and big tits. Aside from the fact that the Levitra is giving me some sort of hot flash- the situation is untenable and the girls- although plentiful- are un-bangable.

I'm soon back on the street in fresh air- the Levitra flashes have subsided, but my pau (Portuguese for "stick" sounds similar to "pai" which means father) is slightly engorged. This is a good development I think as I enter 4 x4 and duck into the labyrinthine hallways to deposit my clothes in a locker and grab a beer in the boate.

A spectacular scene unfolds in the gyrating darkness with more talent I've ever seen at a Terma- wow. High value numerics to my left and right, but none of the mignon magras that I require. Sad. I sit and sup from the Budweiser and a very attractive Morena slides in next to me and strokes my knee seductively. Hey, this girl, while not a mignon, is pretty damn hot I think. I start making out with her and stroking her tits- amazing kisser- deep tongue. Beautiful eyes, long lashes. What will she do? BBBJ, CIM. All I need to hear and soon enough we are up in the cabine and she's whimpering and moaning as her beautiful eyes look up into mine and my cock moves in and out of her boca, lento and profunda, just the way I like it. I stroke her hair gently and give her words of encouragement, such a good girl. Zebra is a fan of oral and not a fan of covered sex, so when I get good face like this, why even bother with the rest? The blowjob is among the best of the past month or so- perhaps the best, with a rock hard finish in her mouth- which she swallows down without thinking twice. Wow, that hasn't happened for a long while.

A funny thing happens here as the effects of the Levitra are now apparent in my tumescent member- the stick stays hard. Rock hard. Not skipping a beat, young Morena doesn't stop suckling, and I'm treated to 15 more minutes or so of the sequel to the best blowjob, and again here she is whimpering and moaning and moving her head up and down furiously. I think this girl likes to suck. Poor baby, no more leite- but as the 30 min comes to a close I wonder if I'm going to have to walk back in to the boate with a raging hard on because thing is not going down. I sort of tuck it up and roll with it and spend a few more minutes making out with deep tongue with young 22 year old Morena, getting her IG and zap, and then an uber back to Ipanema. Uber guy playing a Pearljam album. I almost tear up. Life is beautiful.

I'm starting to come around to the view that Centro is where you end up after doing the tourist Termas- which of course have their place and I won't knock them. Centro is much more concentrated and a much better deal and I've only scratched the surface. Before I'm out of here whenever that may be I'm looking to make it to VM and some of the lurid dark side treats written about so vibrantly here on this forum. Again, letting the universe guide me and so we shall see when that occurs. I will be sure to be high on Levitra.

Zebra Out.

Gropai

06-11-21, 04:32

Solarium.

A little out of the way but in a nice little residential spot. Went inside, got my robe and got lost immediately. I had to make a phone call so my friends went in without me. After getting my robe, I saw several corridors and couldn't figure my way to get to the bar. After stumbling around like an idiot for a few minutes, I finally made it upstairs to the bar. Many pretty girls overall. Overheard several English speakers in this place. Girls were pretty, friendly, and not pushy. Did not session with a girl but my Brazilian friends did. There were about 20 girls here, mostly 6's, several 7's, one or two 8's, one or two 9's. Higher quality than Centaurus but just by a little bit. Waiters were attentive and professional. I'll definitely be back here.I really enjoy reading your report, it's informative and right to the point. I read your earlier reports about trips to Colombia too, and I've had a hard time choosing between Colombia and Brazil. I prefer girls with all natural bodies. Based on your experiences, which country do you think has a higher percentage of girls with all natural bodies? Thanks.

TiaVoyage25

06-11-21, 04:49

Day 5 - not much to report but some entertaining nonsense nonetheless.

Woke up very late and missed a date with a non-pro. She's mad but she'll get over it, especially since I rescheduled for a nice lunch tomorrow. Had dinner at an Italian restaurant called La Trattoria in Copacabana. Ordered a good amount of food and drink for the equivalent of about $25. Definitely recommend.

Talked with MiamiBoy who told me Zebra said 4 x 4 had a ton of talent. Unfortunately I ate too much food so was feeling very immobile. Hopped on to BarraVIP and launched a bunch of messages out. Think those illegal cluster munitions that explode in every direction. You're bound to get a few hits. Found a nice girl and agreed to meet up at her apartment. This is where it gets funny.

I get to the apartment in Copa and am waiting for the elevator. Up walks a girl who is most definitely another BarraVIP girl and she is stunning. Definitely my type (the fit blood type with a great ass). While we wait (elevator was super slow), I just say Hello, and ask if she speaks English, which she does. We do the friendly chit chat thing 30 seconds or so while we wait, then get in the elevator. At this point her and I are kind of on the same page here and I can tell through the mask that she knows what I'm up to (aka visiting one of her friends). Nonetheless, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. So, I ask her if she's interested in grabbing a coffee sometime while I am here in Rio. She giggles a little bit and says "sorry, but I work a lot. " I said no problem and shrug it off. We arrive to her floor and as she gets out she turns around and says, "have fun upstairs. " Shooters shoot and I have no regrets.

I get to the floor with the BarraVIP girl I was going to see. She's waiting in sexy lingerie and offers me a drink. She speaks pretty good English and is very attentive. She wants to know why I am so young and seeking out hookers instead of normal girls. I laugh and say, ahh but aren't you a normal girl? I shower and we get down to business. Long BBBJ, amazing form. She hops on top and I immediately think that she puts it in her ass because it's so tight, but in a good way. It wasn't the dry kind of tight where you know she's having a bad time, it was just legitimately tight. It wasn't until she flipped over to doggy and brought out the lube that I realized it wasn't in her ass the whole time LOL. We're going at it for a little bit and she's saying some shit in Portuguese that I absolutely do not understand. After we were done I asked her what she was saying and she said, "oh I was saying go faster. " Noted. I finished in her ass (via the rubber) and cleaned up. Wasn't in the mood for two pops. We talked for a while and she offered to take me on a small tour of Rio. I ask her the cost and she said, "well, we can go on a day I am not working and you can just buy me lunch for payment. " Nice. Maybe when I leave Rio I'll share the contact info so you filthy mongers don't try to one-up me before I get a shot at a free one with this pro!

Cheers,

TIA.

TiaVoyage25

06-11-21, 17:57

I really enjoy reading your report, it's informative and right to the point. I read your earlier reports about trips to Colombia too, and I've had a hard time choosing between Colombia and Brazil. I prefer girls with all natural bodies. Based on your experiences, which country do you think has a higher percentage of girls with all natural bodies? Thanks.In Colombia most of the women have something done whether that's tits, ass, lips, and / or more. My limited experience here in Brazil leads me to believe there's more of the natural you're looking for around here.

Reminds me of a lyric from the Pitbull song called International Love:

"In Colombia the women got everything done, but they're some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. In Brazil they're freaky with big ol' booties. And their thongs, blue yellow and green!

Bravo

06-11-21, 18:11

Have you checked WeWork?They have an facility 1 block from the Carioca train station. If I stay downtown that week, I will have a 5 minute walk to the office and then I can hit a prive during my lunch hour and a terma once I wrap up at the end of the day. Thanks for the tip!

SinfullyKorean

06-11-21, 18:16

Oops. My bad. I just did that before reading this advice. Noted!Tip: For a few minutes (maybe up to half HR?) after posting, you can go back and "edit" your post. So instead of posting a new thread, you can edit and correct your previous post. =).

Tip 2: Also, if you're planning on replying to multiple posts, there's a "quote plus" button next to the "Reply with quote" that you're clicking on. Click on the quote plus button on the threads you want to reply to. This will allow you to reply to all the threads in one post instead of creating 3 separate posts for simple responses.

Thank you

Thanks goes out to TiaVoyage, Global, and Zebra for your FRs. I'll be in Rio tomorrow. Your plentiful info will be my guide on my short trip. I hope I enjoy it as much as I've enjoyed SP so far. Do you guys mind sharing how much the sessions and rooms cost you?

I've been so busy posting reports in SP forum that I haven't been reading Rio much. But with my trip coming up tomorrow, and needing to go to the laundry today, I had a couple hours to catch up on your FRs. I know how much time goes into writing these. Thanks again for your diligence! =).

Also, thank you Cane for reminding us (me) of the short "Thank You" etiquette. I never knew about that. I, by default, try to slim down the response thread when I reply. But it's nice to know it's an expected decorum.

Exec Talent

06-11-21, 20:47

Xpartan

06-11-21, 21:28

Soon enough I'm on an uber to central having just taken one Levitra and a couple of generic sildenafil 30 min previously and can feel a slight warm sensation come over me and a flushing in my face. Hmm. Strong stuff. Your body might be trying to tell you to go easy on some ED drugs or their combos. I much prefer Cialis to Viagra, for example, it works like a true aphrodisiac for me. But it gave me hot flashes and tachycardia every time I took it. When I told the doctor about it, he looked at me as if I was crazy and asked why I took it more than once if it was the case. He told me never to take it again and stick with cildenafil from then on. Just something to think about. Experimenting with a new ED drug in a 3rd world country during a generational health crisis might not be a good idea for anyone.

Anaggie

06-12-21, 00:21

Mental note — but some Levitra before my next crazy night at 4 x4 in the middle of August 🤣.

Pahllus Maximus

06-12-21, 00:42

Any suggestions for two girls one of who speaks English? My first foray after sex prison is a threesome. I have some time to make up.

Pahllus Maximus

06-12-21, 01:54

That really cracked me up. Seriously funny. I'm still smiling! Others here about the "5 F's" and the longer term, well executed con (marriage) also funny, but true. Good advice as is the other 3 5's: if it flies, floats or fucks, rent, don' t buy. And yep, money cannot buy loyalty.

After 18 months in sex prison USA, I have stuffed wallet and fence post in my pants that I am sure the local ladies will soon relieve. I'm going to have a few peronites and instructions for coffee and BJ for breakfast. Some incredibly useful guides here like Vagabonds PDF files, the Michelin Star book of sorts.

CkNice11

06-12-21, 03:48

Any suggestions for two girls one of who speaks English? My first foray after sex prison is a threesome. I have some time to make up.I had an amazing threesome at the termas monte Carlo. Two true bisexual chicks for a hour if nonstop fun. I felt kike a true pornstar. I got both of there numbers and hooked up with them again on my own time and it was even better. I damn near brought both of them back to the he stayed with me LOL.

Vagabundo1

06-12-21, 03:52

Good to meet for dinner at Trattoria.

Excellent place.

Yeah, you can definitely pull quality without paying.

I can tell you where to get the best real girls, and you should, along with another wingman I have in mind.

After we parted ways, I took the 415 bus to Estacio area, and patrolled over to VM.

It was hopping, dozens of girls, and the top 10% are porn star quality, though not ana foxxx, more like Ashton Devine, and not Riley Reid, but the 5th hottest latina on EvilAngel.com.

But, Vagabundo is a value investor, and a trader who always sets a limit order when making a market because he learned the business from market makers who spend their capital like a good hebrew at temple, a frugal German Jew in the meatpacking district.

And so Vagabundo waited out his usual pernoite date, and monique obliged by bending over and taking a load bare the first of a pernoite.

And so the vagabundo blows.

Vagabundo hopes all the readers that he is ignoring are enjoying his use of third person to describe his real time sex life as much as he is.

Soon, I will post some pictures of the real brancas, you prisoners of pussy prison in your rich world -- the germanic and italian blonds of Porto Allegre, where the losers of two world wars went to breed generations of boys from Brazil.

Monger on garth.

Day 5 - not much to report but some entertaining nonsense nonetheless.

Woke up very late and missed a date with a non-pro. She's mad but she'll get over it, especially since I rescheduled for a nice lunch tomorrow Had dinner at an Italian restaurant called La Trattoria in Copacabana. Ordered a good amount of food and drink for the equivalent of about $25. Definitely recommend.

Talked with MiamiBoy who told me Zebra said 4 x 4 had a ton of talent. Unfortunately I ate too much food so was feeling very immobile. Hopped on to BarraVIP and launched a bunch of messages out. Think those illegal cluster munitions that explode in every direction. You're bound to get a few hits. Found a nice girl and agreed to meet up at her apartment. This is where it gets funny.

I get to the apartment in Copa and am waiting for the elevator. Up walks a girl who is most definitely another BarraVIP girl and she is stunning. Definitely my type (the fit blood type with a great ass). While we wait (elevator was super slow), I just say Hello, and ask if she speaks English, which she does. We do the friendly chit chat thing 30 seconds or so while we wait, then get in the elevator. At this point her and I are kind of on the same page here and I can tell through the mask that she knows what I'm up to (aka visiting one of her friends). Nonetheless, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. So, I ask her if she's interested in grabbing a coffee sometime while I am here in Rio..

Vagabundo1

06-12-21, 03:54

Go hard or go home. But don't die on us, haha.

Your body might be trying to tell you to go easy on some ED drugs or their combos. I much prefer Cialis to Viagra, for example, it works like a true aphrodisiac for me. But it gave me hot flashes and tachycardia every time I took it. When I told the doctor about it, he looked at me as if I was crazy and asked why I took it more than once if it was the case. He told me never to take it again and stick with cildenafil from then on. Just something to think about. Experimenting with a new ED drug in a 3rd world country during a generational health crisis might not be a good idea for anyone.

Vagabundo1

06-12-21, 04:23

One of my faves. A prive girl.

Which is why it pays to read the local reviews and do the prives.

Mangera

06-12-21, 12:35

So I have not been to bunda land since before the virus situation, and I decided to visit a gal I have known for a few years. So when I arrive to are. Branco, 156, I was not happy with the new system in which one has to show identification first, and tell the lady behind a plexiglass the number of the sala you will be visiting. If you do not have a CPF (Basically, the USA version of your Social Security number), then ask for some form of Identification, and will take a picture of you at that moment. Once that is done, they give you a security pass in the shape of credit card and then you use it before being allowed to get to the elevators. Once you finish your visit and return to the 1st floor, you must enter the card in a slot, that will allow you to get through the exit area.

I not happy with this setup, as obviously it doesn't help with privacy issues. Also, the ladies checking your I. The. Know exactly what you are there for once you tell them which sala you are visiting. I went in anyway, but this process sucks. Welcome to Rio. KKKKKKKK Thank you Corona Virus! It is what it is.

Sperto

06-12-21, 13:17

So I have not been to bunda land since before the virus situation, and I decided to visit a gal I have known for a few years. So when I arrive to are. Branco, 156, I was not happy with the new system in which one has to show identification first, and tell the lady behind a plexiglass the number of the sala you will be visiting. If you do not have a CPF (Basically, the USA version of your Social Security number), then ask for some form of Identification, and will take a picture of you at that moment. Once that is done, they give you a security pass in the shape of credit card and then you use it before being allowed to get to the elevators. Once you finish your visit and return to the 1st floor, you must enter the card in a slot, that will allow you to get through the exit area.That sounds complicated. If you mention one sala and receives your security pass, are you feel to roam around visiting several salas? I don't like the idea to be registered as a customer to privées. Maybe it's possible to tell the register counter that you'll visit a book store, cabeleireiro or a restaurant and then sneak away to the privées?

Avenida Treze de Maio 47, asked for ID and registration about three years ago. I refused and didn't enter (no loss, TDM47 have mostly trash-privées).

Member #4729

06-12-21, 14:41

Can any of you guys on the ground report on the current status of the former Cancun now Manhattan?

Are. Do Carmo, 64 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20011-020, Brazil.

I have had many a great three-some and foursome there.

Regular rooms were sizable and well equipped.I was there the other night but did not session. It was an ok lineup but I was fairly early (17:00 hrs). I found it to be a very easy place to just dip in and out of because you don't need to change your clothes, so well worth a visit while doing the rounds. I think the entrance fee plus a drink was 50.

Exec Talent

06-12-21, 15:14

That sounds complicated. If you mention one sala and receives your security pass, are you feel to roam around visiting several salas? I don't like the idea to be registered as a customer to prives. Maybe it's possible to tell the register counter that you'll visit a book store, cabeleireiro or a restaurant and then sneak away to the prives?

Avenida Treze de Maio 47, asked for ID and registration about three years ago. I refused and didn't enter (no loss, TDM47 have mostly trash-prives).Also see Mangera's post immediately before Sperto's.

I think that this issue gets resolved when no one is willing to enter a building and go through these measures in order to visit a private apartment. No customers mean they will move to another building without the invasion of privacy requirements.

Be part of the solution, by just saying no and taking your business elsewhere.

Maybe building owners and managers do not want certain businesses or their customers. That is their choice. Your choice is to go elsewhere.

Member #4729

06-12-21, 15:14

I meet Miami Boy near our preferred rendezvous point and we catch an uber to 4 x 4. On the way he tells me about the awesome SA experience he had the night before. "The best sex of my life"- but he was denied morning sex and so needed a fix. I wasn't in the position of Chasing the Dragon like that, but who needs an excuse?

It's Friday night and also the night before Brazilian Valentines Day (Dio Dos Namorados) and so Quattro por Quattro is surprisingly thin- not the quality I had experienced the previous evening. Question: is Friday night the night they send in the female body builders with those skull crushing thighs, because that seemed to be the majority of the ladies here? With all these bunda grande on display and all this enthusiasm about it here on the board, I'm left wondering how an average / slightly above average proportioned pau (stick) can even penetrate into the necessary regions? Are all you bunda lovers just equipped with freakishly enormous pornstar sized members? That would be my logical conclusion. Anyways, we had a couple beers but dipped out for Terma 65.

Terma 65 dead as well and Miami Boy starts to get dejected as he realizes his hopes for a decent fix are looking dim. This is what the best sex of your life does my dudes, puts you in a chemical state of withdrawal afterwards. Its really best if Miami Boy relates all this stuff but he says he might not post again anytime soon and doesn't mind if I discuss it a little, which I hope is true. In the lounge, I'm almost tempted by the half Japanese girl I keep running into who gives me a nice make-out session and stick massage before I finally send her on her way. Sinto Muito Baby. These girls get a little pissed at giving away freebies like that, but hey- she almost pushed me over.

Somehow I convince Miami Boy we should check out Terma 502 and he relents. Immediately in the club however, he decides to dip out because "this place is a dump". Yes, yes it is. That's half the charm. Personally I didn't find the talent any less in quality than T65 although the girls are obviously there for a more working class local clientele. Anyways- I stick around and grab a young mignon magra Negra with pale skin and braided hair. The prettiest girl I saw all night (from my criteria), but in need of some dental work for an unfortunate overbite. It's ok, I can live with it as she agrees to my necessary CIM request.

The cabine is disgusting- with pretty awful facilities and the attendant outside sings this dumb song to himself for the whole 30 minutes that I can hear clear as day. Am I alone in finding this sort of seediness something of a turn on? Young "Jade" is happy to oblige my requests and I receive a satisfying BBBJ making sure to account for the prominent front teeth in my thrusting. Unfortunately her braided hair stinks something awful because it probably hasn't been washed in a while. Fortunately, literal breast milk is coming out of her teats because she has a young daughter she is still breastfeeding. This is amazing because I saw no baby damage at all. I finish what I need to do, she asks for a tip and I give her 15 and we swap zapp.

Later that night the first thing she does is message me to ask if I could send her 200 over some sort of "pix" app or something because otherwise she will be kicked out of her apartment. Um, no. Not happening, and now I'm less likely to visit because I know I'm just going to get shook down every-time. One of the advantages of the robe-wearing termas is that you leave your wallet and valuables guarded in the locker. Terma 502 you keep all your street clothes on and put them aside while you bang. I noticed how Jade was eyeing my cash / wallet and don't doubt for a second that given a chance she's pinch some bills. This is not a girl that would ever be invited over to an Airbnb, and I think that should be a general rule for these lower tier terma girls. Meet them at love hotels with nothing but the cash you want to spend or just go bang them at the Terma.

They make you pay her fee separate (150), and then settle the drinks and entrance fee, which was roughly 200 total. Can anyone tell me how much of the 150 she gets to keep?

Average TOTAL damage (including drinks, etc) for the termas I've been to:

Terma 502- 200 (30 min).

Terma 65- 305 (30 min).

4 X 4- 305 (30 min).

Monte Carlo- 750-1000 (60 min+ food, room with bathroom etc).

I have not sessioned at Solarium or been to Centaurus.

As previously mentioned I'm starting to come around at least partially to the Vagabundo point of view of seeking value- probably because I've been here a month or so. For a tourist with a short trip, Monte Carlo and Centaurus might make the most sense because the convenience justifies the premium. The best value for the quality is probably 4 x4, and for someone who finds a certain amount of seediness to be exciting, it's possible to find a great deal at 502.

Does anyone have any thought about MV30 ? Is that place even open?

Is Terma 81 worth a visit?

I'm taking a couple days off of the hobby to replenish my leite, have a great weekend.

The Cane

06-12-21, 16:37

Somehow I convince Miami Boy we should check out Terma 502 and he relents. Immediately in the club however, he decides to dip out because "this place is a dump". Yes, yes it is. That's half the charm. Personally I didn't find the talent any less in quality than T65 although the girls are obviously there for a more working class local clientele. Anyways- I stick around and grab a young mignon magra Negra with pale skin and braided hair. The prettiest girl I saw all night (from my criteria), but in need of some dental work for an unfortunate overbite. It's ok, I can live with it as she agrees to my necessary CIM request.

The cabine is disgusting- with pretty awful facilities and the attendant outside sings this dumb song to himself for the whole 30 minutes that I can hear clear as day. Am I alone in finding this sort of seediness something of a turn on? Young "Jade" is happy to oblige my requests and I receive a satisfying BBBJ making sure to account for the prominent front teeth in my thrusting. Unfortunately her braided hair stinks something awful because it probably hasn't been washed in a while. Fortunately, literal breast milk is coming out of her teats because she has a young daughter she is still breastfeeding. This is amazing because I saw no baby damage at all. I finish what I need to do, she asks for a tip and I give her 15 and we swap zapp.It was exactly that "seediness" that made it extra exciting to find a top-of-the-line branca like Gabby working in such a "dirty" place. I recall that my room was pretty clean though. Maybe I got lucky, but the shower water was kind of cold. Once and only once! Have never found anybody like her there ever again. The unicorn. I have seen it! You got to believe me bros! I don't know what happened to the capitalization in the following linked report that I wrote about Gabby (that's not how I wrote it), but I hope you can enjoy. I know I did LOL!

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The Cane

06-12-21, 17:18

One of my faves. A prive girl.

Which is why it pays to read the local reviews and do the prives.Now that's what the fuck I'm talking about! Now every time I go to Rio, I say OK I will do some prives. But, I always find myself being zonked out in the daytime due to my previous night's shenanigans. And, there are so many prives, and they keep opening and closing and moving all over the place it seems. And then, I start getting into opportunity cost and cost-benefit analysis, which leads me to conclude that although I might very well find a girl (s) I like at the prives, there won't be enough of them to make it worth my while, and I'm better off going to places where I can be quite confident that what I like can most assuredly be found. If I were living down there or had a super long vacation I was taking, then it wouldn't be an issue. I could take my time and explore. But typically, I'm a fly in and out tourist who might be wanting to hit 2 to 3 different cities, which leaves me with only such much time in each place to get the job done. One of these days I'm going to have that extra time. And when I do, it's on!

Yossarian

06-12-21, 18:40

In Colombia most of the women have something done whether that's tits, ass, lips, and / or more. My limited experience here in Brazil leads me to believe there's more of the natural you're looking for around here.

Reminds me of a lyric from the Pitbull song called International Love:

"In Colombia the women got everything done, but they're some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. In Brazil they're freaky with big ol' booties. And their thongs, blue yellow and green!I've seen plenty of cariocas with silicone / saline in their tits and asses. Not to mention lipo, botox and other work done. My main girl in both my Rio trips before was au natural until her German trick bought her some big silicone tits after I left last trip.

In Bogota, two of my three prepagos have the silicone tits and asses along with some lipo; but, the au natural girl is my favorite. I don't bruise my hand when I slap that nice, tight yet not hard ass like I do with the other ones LOL.

Yossarian

06-12-21, 18:42

Tip: For a few minutes (maybe up to half HR?) after posting, you can go back and "edit" your post. So instead of posting a new thread, you can edit and correct your previous post. =).

Tip 2: Also, if you're planning on replying to multiple posts, there's a "quote plus" button next to the "Reply with quote" that you're clicking on. Click on the quote plus button on the threads you want to reply to. This will allow you to reply to all the threads in one post instead of creating 3 separate posts for simple responses.

Thank you

Thanks goes out to TiaVoyage, Global, and Zebra for your FRs. I'll be in Rio tomorrow. Your plentiful info will be my guide on my short trip. I hope I enjoy it as much as I've enjoyed SP so far. Do you guys mind sharing how much the sessions and rooms cost you?

I've been so busy posting reports in SP forum that I haven't been reading Rio much. But with my trip coming up tomorrow, and needing to go to the laundry today, I had a couple hours to catch up on your FRs. I know how much time goes into writing these. Thanks again for your diligence! =).

Also, thank you Cane for reminding us (me) of the short "Thank You" etiquette. I never knew about that. I, by default, try to slim down the response thread when I reply. But it's nice to know it's an expected decorum.Thanks for the great tips! I'll make a point to add these into my posting regimen.

Mangera

06-12-21, 19:04

It was exactly that "seediness" that made it extra exciting to find a top-of-the-line branca like Gabby working in such a "dirty" place. I recall that my room was pretty clean though. Maybe I got lucky, but the shower water was kind of cold. Once and only once! Have never found anybody like her there ever again. The unicorn. I have seen it! You got to believe me bros! I don't know what happened to the capitalization in the following linked report that I wrote about Gabby (that's not how I wrote it), but I hope you can enjoy. I know I did LOL!

1174751This past week, when my flight arrived in Rio, as soon as I grabbed my bags and passed immigration / customs, I was heading through Duty Free (With no intention to buy anything because I just wanted to head to my apartment for shut eye), and my peripheral vision caught JW Green for only $41 US Holy Crap Batman!! I just had to buy it! What a bargain.

Vagabundo1

06-12-21, 19:10

I fuck this blonde only a few times in 2017, in the prive, at Motel Malaga (she drives her own car).

Then in 2018, my friend who is a Rio native send me her pic as his latest hooker, such an accomplished puta was she, haha.

Her pussy is tight, going to have to look her up, haha.

One of my faves. A prive girl.

Which is why it pays to read the local reviews and do the prives.

Yossarian

06-12-21, 19:12

I finish what I need to do, she asks for a tip and I give her 15 and we swap zapp.

Later that night the first thing she does is message me to ask if I could send her 200 over some sort of "pix" app or something because otherwise she will be kicked out of her apartment. Um, no. Not happening, and now I'm less likely to visit because I know I'm just going to get shook down every-time. One of the advantages of the robe-wearing termas is that you leave your wallet and valuables guarded in the locker. Terma 502 you keep all your street clothes on and put them aside while you bang. I noticed how Jade was eyeing my cash / wallet and don't doubt for a second that given a chance she's pinch some bills. This is not a girl that would ever be invited over to an Airbnb, and I think that should be a general rule for these lower tier terma girls. Meet them at love hotels with nothing but the cash you want to spend or just go bang them at the Terma.Spot on ZebraStripes81! Hey, you gave her a 10% tip for services rendered -- no need to give her anything else. Glad to see you not simping when she made her "is he a sucker / lame" play with her sad, woe is me story. For the life of me, I can't understand why guys send $$ and invite working girls they just met over to their place so they can case your place / steal from you / drug you and do worse to you (insert waking up in a bathtub full of ice and missing a kidney, waking up tied up in a favela being held for ransom story, etc). Never, never trust these girls, especially when you first meet them. In the end, you're just a meal ticket to them.

I agree with you on just banging them in a love motel or at the terma. Don't shit where you eat. I suppose if you are staying in a hotel / building with security that checks / records her ID and rings you to make sure you are okay and she is cleared to leave the premises is okay -- as long as the security guys are not in on the con / game. Guess I'm just a paranoid guy with little confidence in the goodness of strangers in the sex trades. Just my $.02 -- 'nuff said.

WyattEarp

06-12-21, 19:25

I've always been curious as to who this Brazilian woman is. I'd say she is a solid 9 maybe 9.5. You might come across a girl like this at Scandallo (or the old Help Disco) once in awhile, but she would be getting a lot of attention. Anyone know her name?

https://www.xvideos.com/video46655465/corno_manso#.

WyattEarp

06-12-21, 20:19

Your body might be trying to tell you to go easy on some ED drugs or their combos. I much prefer Cialis to Viagra, for example, it works like a true aphrodisiac for me. But it gave me hot flashes and tachycardia every time I took it. When I told the doctor about it, he looked at me as if I was crazy and asked why I took it more than once if it was the case. He told me never to take it again and stick with cildenafil from then on. Just something to think about. Experimenting with a new ED drug in a 3rd world country during a generational health crisis might not be a good idea for anyone.I've used all three and had side effects to all of them at different stages in my life. Hot flashes, headaches and heartburn can occur. I find one that seems to be working well for me at that point in time without harsh side effects. I stick with that for awhile.

I suppose that's why doctors typically don't prescribe one over the other and tell you that this specific ED med is the one for you. There's some trial and error.

A member mentioned using generics. Until recently, I've found the efficacy was generally not as good. The prices of ED meds in the United States are still too high.

The Cane

06-12-21, 20:42

One of my faves. A prive girl.

Which is why it pays to read the local reviews and do the prives.Would you mind sharing with the brotherhood which prive this loira branca was found at? It's not for me. I mean, we know I don't patronize the prives. But, since you presented her here with such nice pics, I'm sure other bros reading would like to know. Don't leave a monger hanging!

Rio Bob

06-12-21, 21:14

This past week, when my flight arrived in Rio, as soon as I grabbed my bags and passed immigration / customs, I was heading through Duty Free (With no intention to buy anything because I just wanted to head to my apartment for shut eye), and my peripheral vision caught JW Green for only $41 US Holy Crap Batman!! I just had to buy it! What a bargain.The JW gold was $30 which is usually more than the green which didn't make sense.

The JW blue was $146, $40 less then here in the states, I treated myself to a few of these.

WyattEarp

06-12-21, 21:21

Soon, I will post some pictures of the real brancas, you prisoners of pussy prison in your rich world -- the germanic and italian blonds of Porto Allegre, where the losers of two world wars went to breed generations of boys from Brazil.Now that's funny. I always wonder if a branca vixen from Rio Grande do Sul is bona fide fascist offspring. Or perhaps she's a sexbot genetically designed by Dr. Mengele.

Exec Talent

06-12-21, 21:33

The JW gold was $30 which is usually more than the green which didn't make sense.

The JW blue was $146, $40 less then here in the states, I treated myself to a few of these.Be sure to check the prices on In Flight Duty Free. I have been able to get JW Blue for friends in Rio at a good price and avoid the stop at airport duty free.

SinfullyKorean

06-12-21, 23:54

Day 8

Clinica
One day without sex and I'm already desperate. lol. After checking out of my hotel, I go to Prime. But I guess it's still early? Only 3 garotas. Buddy says Abbobora and Miruna are decent today. So I make my way to Abbobora. Bella and
SDU Arrival
Holy fuck, these taxi drivers are pariahs! As I'm leaving the airport (Santos Dumont Airport. SDU), all these freaking taxi drivers keep asking me if I want a taxi. There's one guy that keeps following me even though I tell him no. He tells me Uber doesn't come here and keeps following me. I get stressed out and go to the train and buy the wrong ticket. LOL. It cost me R20, but whatever. There's a few people at the stop telling me I'm at the wrong one. One guy tells me I can take the train and transfer. I check out Uber again. It's weird. There's this blue box around the airport and I'm not sure what that means. I just assumed it means Uber's not allowed in the area? But there's also a place called the Uber Lounge in front of the Bossa Nova mall.

Flight tip
I flew GOL. I called the airline to confirm my booking was done correctly. Their website is in Portuguese, and when they ask you to fill out your birthday, it doesn't say whether you should put month first or day. While I was on the phone, I also asked if I'm allowed 1 carry on plus personal item (e. G. Backpack, laptop bag). She said no, so I purchased a check in baggage option. It's only $12 each way, so not a huge deal. But when I was boarding, I noticed most passengers had a carry on plus personal item. So it seems like it IS included. Also, when I was checking in for my flight, the lady just assumed I was carrying on both my luggage and backpack.

So yea. If you're allowed a carry on, you're probably allowed a personal item. =).

Uber tip!
Tip 1
If it's your first time in Rio, and you're coming in through SDU, make your way over to the south side of Bossa Nova mall. There's a huge waiting area outside just for Uber.

Tip 2
Order Uber Black. I ordered regular Uber and had my request canceled several times. After a few minutes, I changed my request to Uber Black and I was matched with a driver in 1 min. The cost was only $2 more.

Hotel
Staying at Astoria Palace. Seems like an older building, not too impressed. Room's pretty small and had a musty smell when I entered. Internet's pretty good at 63 Mbps down, 35 Mbps up.

If any of you guys are down to hang out, grab dinner, hit the boates, hit me up. I'll be here for 5 days. =).

I plan on checking out Terma 65, 4x4, and Termas Manhattan tonight. Or not. lol. I guess everything's closed due to Dia dos Namorados (Brazil's Valentine's Day). Glad I went to Abbobora in SP before coming. Dammit, looks like they're all closed tomorrow, too. =(

The Cane

06-13-21, 00:20

Flight tip
I flew GOL. I called the airline to confirm my booking was done correctly. Their website is in Portuguese, and when they ask you to fill out your birthday, it doesn't say whether you should put month first or day. While I was on the phone, I also asked if I'm allowed 1 carry on plus personal item (e. G. Backpack, laptop bag). She said no, so I purchased a check in baggage option. It's only $12 each way, so not a huge deal. But when I was boarding, I noticed most passengers had a carry on plus personal item. So it seems like it IS included. Also, when I was checking in for my flight, the lady just assumed I was carrying on both my luggage and backpack.

Hotel
Staying at Astoria Palace. Seems like an older building, not too impressed. Room's pretty small and had a musty smell when I entered. Internet's pretty good at 63 Mbps down, 35 Mbps up.

If any of you guys are down to hang out, grab dinner, hit the boates, hit me up. I'll be here for 5 days. =).

I plan on checking out Terma 65 (actually, looks like it's closed today), 4x4, and Termas Manhattan tonight.Was curious about your comment indicating that GOL's site was only in Portuguese. I have flown them too, and did not recall that, so I had a look. If you look in the upper right-hand corner, you can select your country, and the site will be in the language of that country: https://www.voegol.com.br/en. And sorry you're not liking the hotel. Worked for me and Mr. E, but I do admit its been awhile since I stayed there. Maybe it will get better. Have a good stay in Rio. And remember, you're not going to see the best of Rio or Brazil during these pandemic times! Keep that in mind. And on the weekends the centro prives and termas are closed!

Rio Bob

06-13-21, 03:56

$$ and invite working girls they just met over to their place so they can case your place / steal from you / drug you and do worse to you (insert waking up in a bathtub full of ice and missing a kidney, waking up tied up in a favela being held for ransom story, etc). Never, never trust these girls, especially when you first meet them. In the end, you're just a meal ticket to them.

ITrue they will case your place especially when you have 2 girls over, recent trip I had 2 girls over couple times and one slept over. She got up the next day earlier than me showered and got dressed then woke me up to say goodbye well to get paid too. After she left I noticed I left 300 reais and a credit card on the kitchen counter, nobody took it.

Another time same trip a girl stole my shampoo which I put in a smaller travel bottle and a cigarette lighter, I had to buy shampoo $4. But how stupid is she because I paid her well and she gave it all up because I know she is dishonest.

One tip I always do when I bring a girl in is lock the door from the inside and hide the key so she ain't leaving unless I let her out and she ain't inviting any friends in if I'm incapacitated.

In the past I had 1 girl who wasn't charging me, she must have been setting me up for a big score but all she ever took when I went to the bathroom was cigarettes and condoms, I took advantage of the freebies for a while then dumped her, oh and she wanted to go bareback and I wouldn't do it.

AmorPorFavor

06-13-21, 04:43

SinfullyKorean

06-13-21, 06:08

Was curious about your comment indicating that GOL's site was only in Portuguese. I have flown them too, and did not recall that, so I had a look. If you look in the upper right-hand corner, you can select your country, and the site will be in the language of that country: https://www.voegol.com.br/en. And sorry you're not liking the hotel. Worked for me and Mr. E, but I do admit its been awhile since I stayed there. Maybe it will get better. Have a good stay in Rio. And remember, you're not going to see the best of Rio or Brazil during these pandemic times! Keep that in mind. And on the weekends the centro prives and termas are closed!You're right. I was using the site in English. But when you register, it asks you for your birthday. I wasn't sure if I should put month first or day first. I did put month first. And when I called GOL. They said it was correct.

No worries about the hotel. It's disappointing when comparing to the last 7 days I spent over at Bourbon.

Haha, it's a bit unlucky my trip fell on Brazil's V-day. But I'll make due. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise and I can do touristy stuff tomorrow. Who am I kidding. I'll probably just sleep in.

I do notice that Rio seems much more run down than SP. Even the hotel receptionist was telling me to be careful when I'm walking around. Put my phone in my pocket. Don't take selfies as I'm walking, etc. I've also seen many more homeless, although it's still nothing compared to part of LA. Then again, I'm not usually walking around those parts. =).

Xpartan

06-13-21, 06:21

I agree with you on just banging them in a love motel or at the terma. Don't shit where you eat. I suppose if you are staying in a hotel / building with security that checks / records her ID and rings you to make sure you are okay and she is cleared to leave the premises is okay -- as long as the security guys are not in on the con / game. Guess I'm just a paranoid guy with little confidence in the goodness of strangers in the sex trades. Just my $.02 -- 'nuff said.I'm as paranoid as the next guy, but that's a bit of an overkill, IMHO. I feel comfortable inviting girls to my room provided that I foolproof it properly (meaning all valuables are in the safe or in a locked suitcase when I stay in an apartment). I don't sweat little things like mini-shampoos and stuff. If she steals that shit, I just won't see her again, no matter how good the session is.

I've used all three and had side effects to all of them at different stages in my life. Hot flashes, headaches and heartburn can occur. I find one that seems to be working well for me at that point in time without harsh side effects. I stick with that for awhile.

I suppose that's why doctors typically don't prescribe one over the other and tell you that this specific ED med is the one for you. There's some trial and error.

A member mentioned using generics. Until recently, I've found the efficacy was generally not as good. The prices of ED meds in the United States are still too high.Sure, but my side effects from Cialis were consistent and a little scary. Viagra may give me a mild headache sometimes, but nothing too rough. I've never tried Levitra, though.

In terms of generics, it depends. Some have worked well for me, others not so much. It's a gamble.

The Cane

06-13-21, 11:29

No worries about the hotel. It's disappointing when comparing to the last 7 days I spent over at Bourbon. I do notice that Rio seems much more run down than SP. Even the hotel receptionist was telling me to be careful when I'm walking around. Put my phone in my pocket. Don't take selfies as I'm walking, etc. I've also seen many more homeless, although it's still nothing compared to part of LA. Then again, I'm not usually walking around those parts..Copacabana is rundown. I remember what I was thinking the last time I was riding in from the airport. "I can't believe that I ever thought about retiring to this dump"! Walking around smelling the sewer. The Astoria Palace is like a lot of the hotels you're going to find in Copa. Not brand spanking shiny and new, but not total fleabags either (although you can definitely find some of those). On future trips, I won't be staying in Copa. I've been to Rio enough times now. Time to move up to a nicer neighborhood! LeBlon or Ipanema or even Botafogo. Or if I was retiring maybe even Barra.

The Cane

06-13-21, 12:06

Now that's funny. I always wonder if a branca vixen from Rio Grande do Sul is bona fide fascist offspring. Or perhaps she's a sexbot genetically designed by Dr. Mengele.During my first trip to Sampa, I met this gorgeous blonde at Scandallo named Sarah who said she was from Curitiba (a very nice city by the way). We spent some time talking about her family. She said they were Europeans who came over from Germany, and that some of them had some pretty despicable ideas about people whose stock was different from theirs. Sarah had particular loathing for her grandmother for holding and perpetuating these notions of genetic superiority / inferiority, so much so that she refused to attend her own grandmother's funeral. Wow! This is what I originally wrote previously about my encounter with Sarah (a kinder and gentler Cane moved by her humanity and her beauty). I post it here to expand upon your relevant thought. All the while as this was going down, I wondered if her granny was rolling over in her grave:

Sampling Sampa with Sarah

I returned to Scandallo for a second time, which happened to be my last full night in Sao Paulo. Hell yes, save the best for last! I didn't know who I would find or what experience I would have, but as it turned out, I ended up having sex with the most beautiful girl I met during the entire trip! Her name was Sarah, and I spotted her almost immediately. Her extremely pretty face, her long golden blonde hair, her alabaster white skin, and her two deep pools of blue for eyes. Everything presented in a classy dress. What a sight to behold! What I noticed was that she was trying to give all of her attention to Japanese men, of which there were plenty in the club. She would stand nearby a Japanese gent and smile but never approach, hoping one of them would pick her. OK, so I said that if she's only going to pay attention to the Japanese guys, then I'm going to have to approach her to get her to pay attention to me, so that's what I did!

I approached Sarah with a "Hi", and her eyes immediately lit up! She was like, "Oh, you speak English? So do I! That's great! Would you like to go sit and talk"? Hell yeah LOL! We moved to one of the side couches, and I offered to buy Sarah a drink, but she said she didn't consume alcohol. So we began to talk. About all sorts of things, and Sarah was proving to be a really cool person.

She told me some of the story of her life. About how her father was killed as a result of being part of a love triangle, and that she grew up poor living with her mom in Curitiba. She told me that she was of German stock, and that her grandmother had been from the old country. She said that she had hated her grandma because she was a racist, and that she had refused to go to her own grandma's funeral because of that. It was rather loud where we were sitting, so we moved to another part of the club with more quiet to continue our conversation. The tute I had seen at the Ibirapuera Shopping Center walked by, and I told Sarah the story. She thought it was funny and laughed! Despite her objective beauty, I discovered that Sarah was insecure about her looks. She told me that when she first started working at Scandallo, she found that she was constantly being turned down by all except the Japanese men. She said that many mongers just didn't find her exotic enough and preferred a "morena popozuda" or something like that over her LOL! In fact, she said that she herself found blonde and blue to be ugly, and that she wasn't attracted to guys who looked like her. She said she liked the Japanese guys because they liked her, and that they would pay the best money for her no questions asked. I asked Sarah if she thought she was ugly. She answered softly, "Not me". But I could tell by her answer that she lacked confidence in herself.

I let her know that I liked her blonde hair and blue eyes and wanted to session with her. She started out by quoting me 800 reals for an hour! I told her that was very high, and she responded yeah she had to remember she wasn't dealing with a Japanese customer LOL! Sarah asked me what I wanted to pay, and I countered with 500. She shot back 600, and I jokingly countered again with 550. But I wasn't serious. For a girl of Sarah's caliber, 600 reals was fine (no anal and sorry no pics included), so off we went. On the way to the room Sarah asked, "Well what did the last girl you were with look like"? I asked her why in the world she was asking me something like that. She said, "Well, maybe I'm a little jealous". Well, the last one I had been with was Grazie, so I answered honestly, "She had blonde hair and blue eyes. Just like you". "Sarah smiled and replied softly, "Good boy". We got to the room and I told Sarah that I liked her "vanilla milk shake" (butt) hehehe! She didn't quite understand. After showering we got on the bed and took care of business!

Oh what a sight to see such a beauty sucking away on my dong! I laid back while Sarah gave me a quality BBBJ, occasionally looking up at me with her beautiful blue eyes. When it was time to penetrate Sarah's body, I made sure to put one of my few remaining super thin Sagami condoms on my dick. I needed to feel all of that "precious gem". Sarah rode me reverse and standard cowgirl while I slapped her ass and groped her titties. I pounded hard and rough against her "vanilla shake" from the doggy position listening with pure joy at her cries of, "Oiee! Oiee! Oiee"!

Then onto her back for some mish. While on top of Sarah missionary style I whispered into her ear, "No way am I going to let the Japanese guys be the only ones to get some of this. I want some!" Sarah guffawed in laughter! Then I told her that I was going to tell all of the American guys what they were missing. Again more laughter. Then back to business! We started to fuck again, this time from the missionary position. Sarah raised and spread her knees wide so that I could get deep inside of her. With the Sagami on, it felt as if nothing was between us. Our pelvis' slammed together in a rhythmic whack, whack, whack! She closed her eyes and threw her head back as I groaned and spermed inside her precious pussy! And then a sweet and tender kiss on the lips between us. Nice! Very, very nice! And again worth every last real to me to be able to fuck such a gorgeous young white woman!

I hung around for a good while more, admittedly feeling some jealousy over Sarah and wanting to see who, if anybody, might pick her next. I mean she made me think about being her sugar daddy LOL! I was there fairly late not too far from closing time, and nobody else did choose her, try as she might to present herself favorably for the taking. A really hot morena popozuda came after me, and I would have sessioned with her too if only my budget had allowed for it. But alas, it was my final night in Sampa, and my budget for tapping ass was spent! And I had my super-hot morena in Annie the last time at Scandallo. So sorry Popo! Maybe next time! And God willing, there will be a next time! But for now, I have the pleasure of knowing that the last girl I fucked in Brazil was none other than a gorgeous young woman from Curitiba going by Sarah. Never going to forget her either! Never! In fact, on the way back to my hotel, I was deeply saddened by the knowledge that I will likely never see her again in my life.

Mangera

06-13-21, 12:16

The JW gold was $30 which is usually more than the green which didn't make sense.

The JW blue was $146, $40 less then here in the states, I treated myself to a few of these.Even though JW Green is the most expensive, it is my favorite of the JW Line. It has that woody like flavor that goes very well with a cigar. So Ijust focused in on the Green Label at the Duty Free. I didn't even bother checking the others.

Rio Bob

06-13-21, 14:40

Even though JW Green is the most expensive, it is my favorite of the JW Line. It has that woody like flavor that goes very well with a cigar. So Ijust focused in on the Green Label at the Duty Free. I didn't even bother checking the others.I like green too, it's a good blend at 15 years old. But I'm just saying in liquor stores around me they usually charge more for Gold while in duty free it was less, I found it peculiar.

Rio Bob

06-13-21, 14:43

True they will case your place especially when you have 2 girls over, recent trip I had 2 girls over couple times and one slept over. She got up the next day earlier than me showered and got dressed then woke me up to say goodbye well to get paid too. After she left I noticed I left 300 reais and a credit card on the kitchen counter, nobody took it.LOL extremely high ! Yeah it was my bad mistake but I got lucky, you're absolutely right.

Sure losing a credit card is a big headache but I take inventory everyday and would have just canceled it plus I have pictures of everything. 300 reais is just $60, I spent $500 that day between the escorts, dinner, drinks, club fees, girl for the whole night and the dupla. Theres always some spillage on a trip, the mother lode was locked up in my portable safe hidden in another room, nobody would be able to get at it.

Lalabo

06-13-21, 18:22

Day 8
Uber tip!
Tip 1
If it's your first time in Rio, and you're coming in through SDU, make your way over to the south side of Bossa Nova mall. There's a huge waiting area outside just for Uber.

Tip 2
Order Uber Black. I ordered regular Uber and had my request canceled several times. After a few minutes, I changed my request to Uber Black and I was matched with a driver in 1 min. The cost was only $2 more.

Hotel
Staying at Astoria Palace. Seems like an older building, not too impressed. Room's pretty small and had a musty smell when I entered. Internet's pretty good at 63 Mbps down, 35 Mbps up.
Thanks for the Uber tips. They are very helpful. During my recent tip I have observed so many accepted rides cancelled. I guess that is one way to force customers to move to more expensive expensive options. They charge customers to cancel rides but I guess drivers don't have such restrictions.

I agree that Astoria Palace is very old and even their deluxe rooms are small. I read other member sharing same view so it didn't surprise me.

TiaVoyage25

06-13-21, 20:16

Gentlemen, not much to report but quite a bit in terms of observations. After dinner with a fellow ISG member and a thing back home I had to take care of the other day, I went to see a BarraVIP girl. Nothing exciting to report. Delivered good service at the usual rate.

As I am with BarraVIP girl, my phone goes off and it was my Brazilian friends inviting me to go party with them. Partied all night (Friday night) at a Brazilian club filled with stunning non-pros. Got a few zapps and went to bed.

Next day, Saturday, walked the beach and got a few more numbers. Sent out tons of messages seeing if anyone wanted to hang out later that night but no bites (Valentine's Day). Brazilian friends message me again about another party at another club. Partied until the sun came up. It is now 4:00 in the afternoon local time and I have just woken up. The non-pro that came home with me last night has left to go watch Copa America with her family.

A few takeaways from these experiences:

1.) The most beautiful women in Rio are definitively non-pros. Some board members may not agree with this and chastise, especially since I have only been here a week. But in this week I have done an incredible amount of exploring out of the P4 P realm and a decent amount inside of it. One of my Brazilian friends who does go to termas sometimes agreed with this assessment, though our opinions are just that. Opinions. This is contrary to other places like Europe and Colombia where the women are comparable in both scenes.

2.) Brazilians are incredibly friendly and this extends to P4 P service as well. Nearly all of my sessions have been GFE or borderline even though I don't ask for it or even pursue it. Never in my mongering across Europe or Colombia has anything come close in terms of service. I don't do SEA because that's not my vibe / type. What the pros here lack in looks (relatively, because they are still good looking) they make up in service.

3.) The best way to get in with the highest volume of beautiful non-pros in Brazil is to have Brazilian friends. It is all about the social circle. Even some of you older guys have a chance here as I've seen several young stunning women with some older gentlemen. If you're under the age of 50, I'd say you have a legitimate chance with an actual 25-35 year old undeniable dime if you have the right in. You better be a real cool dude and bring something to the table worth having because Brazilian dudes have it figured it out. Which brings me to my next point.

4.) Brazilian dudes largely have good game and are not afraid to just go after it. I watched one girl reject a guy several times last night, only for her to leave with him at the end of the night as they were making out outside waiting for a taxi. Brazilian men make other western men look like absolute amateurs when it comes to hitting on beautiful women.

5.) I second SinfullyKorean's statement about using UberBlack. Another good option is UberVIP so you get matched with the best drivers. It is the same price as UberX but it can take longer to find a driver since the match criteria is more stringent.

6.) What is next? I still would like to meet up with VB and Zebra to explore the worlds they have discovered here in Rio, but am trying to figure out how to balance the time. I will be heading to Sao Paulo shortly as my Brazilian friends are going there next to continue the party. Possibly some termas and the massage places before I go. I will likely be back in Rio again afterwards, but do have a slight itch to head on over to Colombia. Or Curitiba. Who knows, I go with my gut!

7.) Alas the mongering here in Rio has lost its allure for me in favor of the non-P4 P options. I disclose this simply because as I previously wrote in my initial report, I am tailoring my reports for the younger newbies like myself. It would be dishonest of me to not give a complete account of my findings in this adventure. I came to Rio with the intent to mostly monger but also explore the non-P4 P options. If nothing changes in the next few days, I will be leaving here satisfied with the P4 P options, but much, much, much more impressed with the non-P4 P scene.

8.) One of the best non-P4 P weekend bar scenes is in Leblon on the street with all the restaurants heading towards the mountain. You're welcome.

9.) If you care about nothing else I have said so far, at least listen to this part. Learn Portuguese.

Member #4729

06-13-21, 20:54

1.) The most beautiful women in Rio are definitively non-pros. Some board members may not agree with this and chastise, especially since I have only been here a week. But in this week I have done an incredible amount of exploring out of the P4 P realm and a decent amount inside of it. One of my Brazilian friends who does go to termas sometimes agreed with this assessment, though our opinions are just that. Opinions. This is contrary to other places like Europe and Colombia where the women are comparable in both scenes.

3.) The best way to get in with the highest volume of beautiful non-pros in Brazil is to have Brazilian friends. It is all about the social circle. Even some of you older guys have a chance here as I've seen several young stunning women with some older gentlemen. If you're under the age of 50, I'd say you have a legitimate chance with an actual 25-35 year old undeniable dime if you have the right in. You better be a real cool dude and bring something to the table worth having because Brazilian dudes have it figured it out. Which brings me to my next point.

6.) What is next? I still would like to meet up with VB and Zebra to explore the worlds they have discovered here in Rio, but am trying to figure out how to balance the time. I will be heading to Sao Paulo shortly as my Brazilian friends are going there next to continue the party. Possibly some termas and the massage places before I go. I will likely be back in Rio again afterwards, but do have a slight itch to head on over to Colombia. Or Curitiba. Who knows, I go with my gut!This is all solid recon.

1. You are 100% correct about the non-pro talent. Really unparalleled perhaps aside from Russia. A late afternoon stroll down Ipanema, or a crawl through the Leblon bar scene is all one needs to see the light and believe. The pro-talent here is decent, but really miles away from what some one with some game could achieve- so I concur with your thought processes here- especially you being a young guy.

3. Lucky you Tia to have an inside track like that, I think your experience would be wildly different without your local guides. I hope you are able to pay them back when they visit the states or at least express your gratitude in other ways.

6. I'm here at the very least until mid-July- then actually thinking of Medellin for a bit- would be cool to meet up in either place for some hobbying.

9. The little Porto I've managed to learn does help. You need to at least make an effort- I mean we are in their country it's a matter of respect.

Monger on.

TShelby

06-13-21, 23:10

TiaVoyage25

06-14-21, 01:15

6. I'm here at the very least until mid-July- then actually thinking of Medellin for a bit- would be cool to meet up in either place for some hobbying.

Monger on.Agreed. I'll PM you to see if perhaps we can meet up in one of these places!

TiaVoyage25

06-14-21, 01:21

What are the names of the local discos? Isn't it supposed to close all 10 pm because of the covid? Thank you! I need a good nightclub in Rio for girls (not professionals) 25-35 years.Mr. Shelby, when you can provide a trip report of value to this forum I will gladly answer your questions.

Vagabundo1

06-14-21, 03:03

Point your uber to boteca belmonte on rua dias Ferreira.

This is the corporate, diplomatic bubble.

It is pretty much Beverly hills, CA, and Georgetown, DC, or as close as it gets in South America.

8.) One of the best non-P4 P weekend bar scenes is in Leblon on the street with all the restaurants heading towards the mountain. You're welcome.

TShelby

06-14-21, 09:47

Mr. Shelby, when you can provide a trip report of value to this forum I will gladly answer your questions.Thanks friend! Will be my first time in Rio at the age of 29, I promise to make a good report of everything that happens to me there. I also want to experience the Termas, what do you recommend for the first time in a Termas? I want something spectacular quality price.

Yossarian

06-14-21, 20:02

Thanks friend! Will be my first time in Rio at the age of 29, I promise to make a good report of everything that happens to me there. I also want to experience the Termas, what do you recommend for the first time in a Termas? I want something spectacular quality price.Enjoy! It will be the experience of a lifetime. Rio de Janeiro is truly one of THE iconic cities of the world and there's a reason it's called A Cidade Maravilhosa (The Marvelous City). Oh, and most definitely learn that Portuguese!

BeenBob

06-15-21, 02:35

Since I first used them 5 years ago I book my pickup and return rides from and to the Airport on all my Int'l trips. They'll be right there at the front of the entrance waiting on you holding a sign with your name on it soon as you clear customs. They have been professional and always on time. From GIG to Copa its about €20.00 each way.

It takes out all the guesswork. The driver will WhatsApp you a few days before your flight to make sure everything is still on schedule and you stay in touch the entire time. I never had to worry about pariahs, cancellations, hassles, price gouging etc.

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Day 8

Clinica
One day without sex and I'm already desperate. lol. After checking out of my hotel, I go to Prime. But I guess it's still early? Only 3 garotas. Buddy says Abbobora and Miruna are decent today. So I make my way to Abbobora. Bella and
SDU Arrival
Holy fuck, these taxi drivers are pariahs! As I'm leaving the airport (Santos Dumont Airport. SDU), all these freaking taxi drivers keep asking me if I want a taxi. There's one guy that keeps following me even though I tell him no. He tells me Uber doesn't come here and keeps following me. I get stressed out and go to the train and buy the wrong ticket. LOL. It cost me R20, but whatever. There's a few people at the stop telling me I'm at the wrong one. One guy tells me I can take the train and transfer. I check out Uber again. It's weird. There's this blue box around the airport and I'm not sure what that means. I just assumed it means Uber's not allowed in the area? But there's also a place called the Uber Lounge in front of the Bossa Nova mall.

Flight tip
I flew GOL. I called the airline to confirm my booking was done correctly. Their website is in Portuguese, and when they ask you to fill out your birthday, it doesn't say whether you should put month first or day. While I was on the phone, I also asked if I'm allowed 1 carry on plus personal item (e. G. Backpack, laptop bag). She said no, so I purchased a check in baggage option. It's only $12 each way, so not a huge deal. But when I was boarding, I noticed most passengers had a carry on plus personal item. So it seems like it IS included. Also, when I was checking in for my flight, the lady just assumed I was carrying on both my luggage and backpack.

So yea. If you're allowed a carry on, you're probably allowed a personal item. =).

Uber tip!
Tip 1
If it's your first time in Rio, and you're coming in through SDU, make your way over to the south side of Bossa Nova mall. There's a huge waiting area outside just for Uber.

Tip 2
Order Uber Black. I ordered regular Uber and had my request canceled several times. After a few minutes, I changed my request to Uber Black and I was matched with a driver in 1 min. The cost was only $2 more.

Hotel
Staying at Astoria Palace. Seems like an older building, not too impressed. Room's pretty small and had a musty smell when I entered. Internet's pretty good at 63 Mbps down, 35 Mbps up.

If any of you guys are down to hang out, grab dinner, hit the boates, hit me up. I'll be here for 5 days. =).

I plan on checking out Terma 65, 4x4, and Termas Manhattan tonight. Or not. lol. I guess everything's closed due to Dia dos Namorados (Brazil's Valentine's Day). Glad I went to Abbobora in SP before coming. Dammit, looks like they're all closed tomorrow, too. =(

SinfullyKorean

06-15-21, 05:54

Today was the actual start of my mongering activities in Rio, since the prior two days were shit. Day 1 in Rio was Brazil's Valentine's day. Everything closed. Day 2 was Sunday, again, everything closed.

Tourist activities
On day 2 (Sunday), since everything was closed, I decided to tour the Christ the Redeemer statue. I had a good time and it was a great way to pass the time. More than the statue itself, it was fun to see how everyone's posing in front of this "sacred" statue. There was a secluded area where I was able to enjoy a little "me" time and meditate for a few minutes. If you have some down time, check it out. I paid R110 for the transfer shuttle rides plus entrance fee. Worth it!

Prive
Going off of WorldTravel's map as well as GPA reviews, I decided to visit the Onix massage shop http://onixterapias.com/terapeuta-info.php?p=VIT%D3RIA&s=191. I wanted to book Carol, but booked Victoria due to scheduling. Carol was the one with great reviews on GPA. I was going in blind with Victoria, but I did not regret booking her. She's a solid 8, with better chemistry than most thanks to her English. I'll most likely visit her again in my short trip to Rio. Cost was 140 for half an HR (170 for 1 HR). I cannot believe I banged this hottie for $28. BBBJ and DFK / GFE included. Her kisses were so soft and plenty. Even after we finished, we kept making out. Top 2 in GFE in my Brazil trip (Alicee in Prime was my other top 2, they're tied). I highly recommend. Victoria says she's been working here for over a year. And yet, Carol's the one with all the great reviews here. If Carol is as good or better than Victoria. I cannot wait to check Carol out. Victoria quoted me R900 for overnight, so I took a pass. I could do her 2 hrs at the prive for R340, so didn't seem worth it for me.

I feel like Prives are the hidden gems in Rio. I haven't read too much about them, and they charge lower than SP (clinicas). And you can still find great 8's there. I could hobby twice a day, 6 days a week for just about the same amount I'd hobby for once a week in the US! Mind blown!

Tomrrow, I'll be checking out either Karina https://www.rioencontro.com.br/karina-hot/ or rjmassagem https://rjmassagem.com.br/en/barra-da-tijuca or both. Rjmassagem looks like they'd have some great talent. My one and only thermae experience will be tomorrow. So I'll make the most of it. So far, I am way under budget because I've been focusing on clinicas and prives. So I have some to spare for these thermaes and boates. Can't wait for tomorrow. It's going to be EPIC! LOL.

ISG hangout
I was able to get a hold of Zebra and Miami. Awesome guys, we had a few drinks, shared stories and plans for our stays in Brazil. We spent a good 4 hrs together and found some hotties at MAB's. I wouldn't have even thought to check this place out if not for them. Only a 10 min walk from Astoria Palace. I have to say, it was very enjoyable just to hang out with like minded mongers. We had a great time together and will probably see hang out in the near future, probably tomorrow. LOL.

Hotel
Astoria Palace still blows. May be good for bringing girls in. But if you're a light sleeper like me, avoid at all costs. Walls are super thing. When I complained about the noise, they moved me up to the 13th floor (top floor, except for the pools). I was initially on floor 6, but you can literally hear all the noise from the ground floor. The problem with the 13th floor is that the walls are still super thing and the elevators make a huge thud sound every time it moves. It sounds like large weights being dropped, metal on metal. The only redeeming features are excellent service (people are super friendly) and the included breakfast, which is slightly better than I'd imagined. Although it pales in comparison to Thailand. They (Astoria) have hot sausages, quiche and freshly cooked scrambled eggs. =)

Since I first used them 5 years ago I book my pickup and return rides from and to the Airport on all my Int'l trips. They'll be right there at the front of the entrance waiting on you holding a sign with your name on it soon as you clear customs. They have been professional and always on time. From GIG to Copa its about 20.00 each way.Your transfer costs you about $25 US. The Uber Black I booked cost me about $6 US. I'm not saying what you did is wrong. But once you know where to go and how to book (Uber Black), why pay 4 x the amount? The only reason it was such a headache for me was because I didn't know where the Uber lounge was. That's why we share info on this forum, right?

If you're in Rio, get a hold of Zebra or MiamiBoy. If you're in SP, reach out to DiverOyster. They're both fun to hangout with. But FYI, Diver doesn't drink =).

The Cane

06-15-21, 11:59

Today was the actual start of my mongering activities in Rio, since the prior two days were shit. Day 1 in Rio was Brazil's Valentine's day. Everything closed. Day 2 was Sunday, again, everything closed.After my first trip to Rio, I learned to make sure that I always carefully look online for any holidays that may fall during my planned vacation dates, both national and local. I lost a day of mongering during that first trip due to a holiday recognized and celebrated in Rio and Rio only, and somehow I had missed it. So, lost a day of mongering out of my planned 10-day vacation due to everything being closed in Rio on that local holiday. Then I missed another mongering day due to getting sick from eating some sushi. But still, what a transformative vacation it was! Another thing you can try during down days is online escorts. Brazil is the only country where I've been to that I would feel comfortable doing this (ordinarily not an escort fan), having found some reliable sites. No bait and switch (what I saw is what I got) and solid performance. So far! Oh, and I believe I mentioned MAB's to you when you inquired about some weekend ideas last Saturday night. As you can see, one of the advantages of Astoria Palace is that it is very easy walking distance to MAB's and Dolce Vita.

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Member #4698

06-15-21, 13:23

Hi SK,

It is good to hear you are enjoying RJ. Here is just a little warning before you go concerning the RJMassagem branch in Barra.

RJMassagem (part 1) Clara:

Around 2:30 I ubered over to RJ Massagem. This Prive shop is located on the 3rd floor of a regular shopping mall on Ave dos Americas a major commercial boulevard in Barra De Tijuca. Actually there are 3 branches of RJ Massagem; in Barra, Copacabana, and Centro. Here is their website in case anyone is interested: https://rjmassagem.com.br/.

When I arrived in RJ during the lockdown I sent messages to a few Prive's. The reason I was particularly interested in RJMassagem is obvious. They have some sexy girls on their websites. So I had an appointment with Clara. (She is now called White on the website). Clara was my 2nd choice, but good enough, ha ha, and I was looking forward to getting out of the house so to speak, my hotel, breaking new ground, and shagging some different kind of girls other that call girls.

I arrived a few minutes before my appointment and Clara came to greet me soon after I checked in. But wait, the check-in process was interesting. I was asked to choose which kind of massage I wanted and for how long. I did not care which massage I received, I came for sexual intercourse, but I noticed that Nuru was on the menu, but for more money. Naturally. I knew it would not be a real Nuru massage, but I imagined it might be like some Nuru massages I used to get on Sukhumvit Soi 33 in BKK where the girl and I used to get real gooey and goopy and start sliding around together on an air mattress which always led before you knew it to bareback time. So I chose the Nuru massage for 60 minutes thinking the same thing might happen here.

Then I met Clara and she escorted me to the room. She was blond, well put together, decent fake tits (not too large), pretty face, all smiles and she looked like her photos with the addition of a couple of years, but overall, I had a very good 1st impression of her.

The room was large room and elegantly (for a oily massage parlor) first class with a king size bed and a very large shower / wash area. We got undressed and Clara told me to lie on my stomach. She lubed up and began massaging my legs, then my ass, and lastly my back with her tits. After 4 or 5 minutes she began to massage my ass and reached underneath once or twice.

I rolled onto my back to get a look at her and to move things along. She laughed and then lubed up some more and began body to body massaging my legs. Dick. Stomach, and chest. The oil she used was not Nuru, that is for sure, but I began having a pretty good time anyway and it did not take long to get hard. She liked the effect she was having on me and began to give me a sensuous BJ. I liked that a lot although it was not a deep throat like what the call girls were giving me.

Anyway, she came off my dick and body massaged her way up to my face and we kissed but not for long because she kept body to body massaging me in a circular fashion, but every time she came up to my face we kissed again. After the 3rd or 4th rotation I was ready for the main event, vaginal intercourse, so I said, "let's make love. " Then to my complete surprise, Clara informed me that full service was not on the menu. I said what? And she looked me straight in the eyes, smiled graciously, and said she could not do it.

Well, you can imagine how I felt, but words fail me. I was ready for sex and this hot, blond chick who had just had my dick in her mouth for a prolonged time, was saying no cannot in all sincerity. She then asked me to just relax and she promised she would take care of me, but whatever that meant, it did not mean vaginal intercourse, unfortunately. But since there was not a thing I could do about it, house rules, I accepted my Fate and laid back and let Clara do her thing. The body to body massage was nice and we did begin kissing more and longer. Then she went back down on my dick again. I liked her BJ's and after a while I leaned forward so I could Touch her pussy. She became wet and allowed me to finger her. The foreplay was pleasurable. I pulled her up off my dick and we began to seriously DFK.

Then I laid back down on my back and she came on top. I told her again I wanted to fuck her and she said, "I can't, HERE, darling. " I heard the last part clear as a bell, so I asked if she wanted to have boom boom later at my hotel and she said Yes. I said, when, tonight? And she said no, she could not, but she could come to my hotel tomorrow afternoon if I wanted. I said I wanted and we began kissing and rubbing our bodies again.

Towards the end of the session Clara made an effort to finish me off in her mouth, but I was already thinking about doing a call girl this evening, so CIM was not going to happen this afternoon. The phone rang telling us my time was up. We stayed in our embrace for a while. There was no rush to end things. The phone rang a 2nd time and we went to the shower and she cleaned me up. Then she quickly dressed and told me to stay in the room as she left. She came back seconds later with a pen and paper and wrote down her telephone number and told me to call her. I said I would and we kissed goodbye. I was 1000% sure I would call her tomorrow and complete our mission. There is nothing like unrequited love the fire up the libido. I wanted her!

I went back to the reception area and the girl there asked how I liked my massage. I said it was great. Then she informed me that the price of my massage was on a special re-opening day discount of only 350 br instead of the usual 450 br. Lucky me. 555. But I felt pretty good anyway and I was looking forward to nailing Clara tomorrow or the next day. I was also thinking about who I was going to see tonight.

I wandered around the shopping mall and it was nice to see a few restaurants and stores open for a change. Things were beginning to look up. Then I ubered back to my hotel. It was after 6 pm when I arrived. Time to choose a girl for the evening's entertainment.

I guess I will post my RJMassagem (part 2): Clara at the Hyatt report, but in the meantime here is a photo of Clara courtesy of RJMassagem. Like I said, she is a nice girl.

Bravo

06-15-21, 19:39

Nordico

06-15-21, 19:52

SinfullyKorean

06-15-21, 20:29

After my first trip to Rio, I learned to make sure that I always carefully look online for any holidays that may fall during my planned vacation dates, both national and local. I lost a day of mongering during that first trip due to a holiday recognized and celebrated in Rio and Rio only, and somehow I had missed it. So, lost a day of mongering out of my planned 10-day vacation due to everything being closed in Rio on that local holiday. Then I missed another mongering day due to getting sick from eating some sushi. But still, what a transformative vacation it was! Another thing you can try during down days is online escorts. Brazil is the only country where I've been to that I would feel comfortable doing this (ordinarily not an escort fan), having found some reliable sites. No bait and switch (what I saw is what I got) and solid performance. So far! Oh, and I believe I mentioned MAB's to you when you inquired about some weekend ideas last Saturday night. As you can see, one of the advantages of Astoria Palace is that it is very easy walking distance to MAB's and Dolce Vita.Thanks, Cane. MAB's was a great call. The guys and I were all attracted to this one chick, Clara. We all already had our shot for the day, so none of us booked her. But she was the best looker there. Petite, maybe mid to late 20's, with a nice set of boobs. A couple of us got her number for future reference.

I don't feel like I need to plan every minutiae of my trip and don't mind missing a couple days of hobbying. I was fortunate enough to session before I left on Sat, so that worked out. Sunday was spent on visiting the Redeemer, so I made the best of it. In fact, it was a bit of a relief to get a break. LOL.

Thanks for the links to the escorts, but I don't think I'll have time for them this time. And to be honest, the prives have been so cost effective, girls have been beautiful, and so much GFE that it's difficult justifying the extra cost and hassle of getting an online escort. I'd rather see the girl in person and have the choice to decline. Not sure how that works out with online escorts, if she's at your hotel and you don't like her?

Hi SK,
It is good to hear you are enjoying RJ. Here is just a little warning before you go concerning the RJMassagem branch in Barra.
RJMassagem (part 1) Clara:
I guess I will post my RJMassagem (part 2): Clara at the Hyatt report, but in the meantime here is a photo of Clara courtesy of RJMassagem. Like I said, she is a nice girl.Hahaha, nice story, Natty! Glad I decided to skip RJMassagem. I could actually use a really nice massage. But I lost my libido after Carol (at Onix) drained 2 shots out of me. I'm saving whatever leche I have left for the termas tonight. I saw RJMassagem's website and saw the "No Sex" posted. I found it weird, since selling sex is legal here. I was tempted to see Gabi (https://rjmassagem.com.br/en/therapists/gabi/). Maybe I'll give it a try tomorrow before my flight. But I'm definitely going to see Victory again at Onix tomorrow. She's definitely an underrated gem here. I don't understand how she's been working here for almost a year and doesn't have a review on GPA.

My trip so far hasn't been mind blowing PSE. But I like this nice steady rate of hobbying without breaking the bank. I can't believe how much I'm under budget. And that's after sessioning at connection and bringing a scandallo girl to my hotel. I'm thinking about letting my wallet loose a little when I'm back in SP for Scandallo and Connection. At the same time, I feel like Maria ruined me. LOL.

Mangera

06-16-21, 00:27

Mangera

06-16-21, 00:37

Thanks, Cane. MAB's was a great call. The guys and I were all attracted to this one chick, Clara. We all already had our shot for the day, so none of us booked her. But she was the best looker there. Petite, maybe mid to late 20's, with a nice set of boobs. A couple of us got her number for future reference.

I don't feel like I need to plan every minutiae of my trip and don't mind missing a couple days of hobbying. I was fortunate enough to session before I left on Sat, so that worked out. Sunday was spent on visiting the Redeemer, so I made the best of it. In fact, it was a bit of a relief to get a break. LOL.

Thanks for the links to the escorts, but I don't think I'll have time for them this time. And to be honest, the prives have been so cost effective, girls have been beautiful, and so much GFE that it's difficult justifying the extra cost and hassle of getting an online escort. I'd rather see the girl in person and have the choice to decline. Not sure how that works out with online escorts, if she's at your hotel and you don't like her?

Hahaha, nice story, Natty! Glad I decided to skip RJMassagem. I could actually use a really nice massage. But I lost my libido after Carol (at Onix) drained 2 shots out of me. I'm saving whatever leche I have left for the termas tonight. I saw RJMassagem's website and saw the "No Sex" posted. I found it weird, since selling sex is legal here. I was tempted to see Gabi (https://rjmassagem.com.br/en/therapists/gabi/). Maybe I'll give it a try tomorrow before my flight. But I'm definitely going to see Victory again at Onix tomorrow. She's definitely an underrated gem here. I don't understand how she's been working here for almost a year and doesn't have a review on GPA.

My trip so far hasn't been mind blowing PSE. But I like this nice steady rate of hobbying without breaking the bank. I can't believe how much I'm under budget. And that's after sessioning at connection and bringing a scandallo girl to my hotel. I'm thinking about letting my wallet loose a little when I'm back in SP for Scandallo and Connection. At the same time, I feel like Maria ruined me. LOL.That is because she just recently changed her name. She used to be known as Maia or Mayra, and now is Vitoria. She worked at a Prive 3 or 4 years agao, then gave the Termas a try, and now is back to Prive work place. Enjoy!

Vagabundo1

06-16-21, 01:29

It makes the point, along with global and you, that the Centro prives offer good bang for the buck, and at the least are wise warm up bangs for the tier 1 termas.

She worked at a Prive 3 or 4 years agao, then gave the Termas a try, and now is back to Prive work place. Enjoy!

Vagabundo1

06-16-21, 11:52

TIA, call your office, Felix Leiter on line 1.

Let's say you are a young Naval Officer who is smart and went to the right schools.

You've been riding around on ships for 2+ years doing what Churchill called "naval traditioin" IE, Rum Sodomy and the Lash.

Your government makes you part of the mission in Brazil for a few years after sending you to learn the language. They will put you up in a state department apartment in Leblon, you know, top floor, elevator only to your floor, etc. And you will roll out of bed with the waitress -- "how was I to know, she was with the Russians too" -- from Boteca Belmonte.

Now you are a hipster too.

This is Leblon.

It has luxury buses to the main consular hood, ie, centro vicinity cinelandia, or botafogo (the portugal embassy, hint, hint) and it has consulates of some countries.

Bring your best Bond lines, shaken not stirred.

Point your uber to boteca belmonte on rua dias Ferreira.

This is the corporate, diplomatic bubble.

It is pretty much Beverly hills, CA, and Georgetown, DC, or as close as it gets in South America.

Rio Bob

06-16-21, 14:41

I apologize if this question has been answered already. Do we still need to have a PCR test to go to Brasil? I recently received my 2nd vaccine shot and was wondering if I still need to have a negative PCR test to fly to Brasil?Yes PCR test 72 hours before takeoff plus you need to fill out a form on the Brazilian consulate website. On return to the United States you just need antigen test which you can get at Pacheco drugstore on nossa senhora Copacabana 534, they give you results in 20 minutes, depending on when you go there could be a short line.

Mexidan

06-16-21, 15:08

Yes PCR test 72 hours before takeoff plus you need to fill out a form on the Brazilian consulate website. On return to the United States you just need antigen test which you can get at Pacheco drugstore on nossa senhora Copacabana 534, they give you results in 20 minutes, depending on when you go there could be a short line.Yes. I just got to Brazil today. They were doing random spot checks at GIG Airport this morning. However, in the USA, American Airlines wouldn't even let me check in for my flight without a negative PCR test, and self check in for my flight was not allowed, the machine sent me to a customer service agent to confirm my test results.

Vagabundo1

06-16-21, 15:22

Over 50 on Saturday are getting Covid vaxx at public hospital.

Yes PCR test 72 hours before takeoff plus you need to fill out a form on the Brazilian consulate website. On return to the United States you just need antigen test which you can get at Pacheco drugstore on nossa senhora Copacabana 534, they give you results in 20 minutes, depending on when you go there could be a short line.

Houston Player

06-16-21, 15:27

I saw RJMassagem's website and saw the "No Sex" posted. I found it weird, since selling sex is legal here. This is not true. It is only legal for the prostitute to sell herself. It is illegal for anyone else to profit from the sale of sex except the prostitute.

Rio Bob

06-16-21, 15:57

The reason they say "no sex" is not because it's legal or illegal it's because the establishment is trying to portray itself as a real place for massages. Not like the phony places that call themselves massage parlor and you can skip the massage altogether and get right to the sex. Now of course on some of the massages an orgasm is included like the neru and I'm sure some of the girls would do extra for some extra money even though I didn't try.

Member #4729

06-16-21, 16:41

Balboa

06-16-21, 20:06

What is the best time of day for a first timer to visit VM and what is the preferred method of transportation.

Last night after we had our fill of the Termas, SinfullyKorean and myself tried to catch an uber to Mosaico at approx 17:30 hrs to no avail. Not a one would take the ride. This makes me think maybe they don't want to go there in general.

I'm also looking to hit up club 116 if anyone has any tips for that location.Interesting that an Uber wouldn't take that ride.

It was most likely due to the traffic heading out there at that time, not dangerous, especially pre dark.

I always try to Uber out before 5 pm or after 8 pm from the beach zone, for the traffic congestion reason.

Turgid

06-16-21, 20:31

... I'm thinking about letting my wallet loose a little ....Oh, he said it. Here come the ISG wolves for your carcass.

MiamiBoy1

06-16-21, 21:04

Do you guys know if yellow fever vaccination certificate is required to enter Colombia via air from Brazil?

Nounce

06-16-21, 21:07

Do you guys know if yellow fever vaccination certificate is required to enter Colombia via air from Brazil?You may want to check to make sure that Colombia will allow you to enter directly from Brazil.

MiamiBoy1

06-16-21, 21:23

You may want to check to make sure that Colombia will allow you to enter directly from Brazil.There is no ban in effect to enter Colombia from Brazil. My flight is via Panama City. But if yellow fever vaccine is required (taken at least 10 days prior to departing Brazil), I'm fucked.

Vagabundo1

06-16-21, 21:27

Three weeks ago public hospitals in Brazil were vaxx ing over 58.

So in a few quarters, Brazil may catch up to the rich world.

Over 50 on Saturday are getting Covid vaxx at public hospital..

Vagabundo1

06-16-21, 21:46

I love me some redhead (ruiva).

So do the brothers I know.

It is a natural thing.

I once had a red head I was engaged to say we Irish girls with red hair are the lost tribe of Africa.

I don't want to get all anti colorist, but there is some truth.

She also said, I could play sports as well as black girls.

I won't attempt to analyze, for risk of offending everyone.

I do report, I found me a ruiva, and I picked her over even my faves. Negra and mulata.

So vagabundo mongers into centro via the 309 bus.

He buys a few sim chips at central.

TIAvoyage suggests this via zap.

ISG Tiavoyage25: Also I thought of a good side business idea for you. Are you familiar with the woodman tour in Bogota?

ISG Tiavoyage25: he takes visitors on tours around Santa Fe. Charges a small amount and the tours are a fan favorite on ISG. You could do the same with Centro, darkside termas, etc. You may even be able to get a kickback from the owners of the places for bringing them consistent business.

My reaction is that I generally am a solo sperto spartan monger now. It is safer. But I will patrol with high quality people, you can PM me, and we can chat.

Now, vagabundo will suggest this on the cyber monger front.

If you are sitting at home, you should get a Brazilian number ASAP, and that can be done via a chat. That means you can register a zap number from outside Brazil, and I could or any monger in Brazil could help. If that eludes your comprehension, we had a saying, I can't fix stupid and I am not IT.

So vagabundo mongers over to buy some PPE.

This includes blending in, and again, there are places to buy local cloths.

Vagabundo was going over to give a non pro her umbrella back at her office.

But, you know what.

Vagabundo finds himself at RB156.

Now, as far as prives go, Bel Prazer and the sister prives are top shelf. Yes there are tier 1 prives. Again, see GPA.

Bel Prazer is RB185/21st floor.

OK, if you are a newbie, you must, must, must calibrate your dick to the cost per fuck by prives for 3 days on a 30 day trip (you should always aim for a month, if you can't at least a week, if not, just pick one city and try for a week).

The talent at Bel Prazer is superb. Vagabundo will be back. There is talent there he had been doing, and he needs to get those hips, those lips, that bunda back into the mix. Small pool of real spys in this fight club, some from 2017, and they rotate through tier 1 termas, like 4 x4, especially in the winter of the southern hemisphere.

But BP was fully occupied at 15 h50.

Vagabundo doesn't like the security system at RB156, which is not in place at RB185, nor at TDM33.

VB goes up to a prive where said Ruiva is.

Another one shot, one kill.

VB pays 50 are for the sex, 20 minutes. DFK, BBBJ, covered cavalo (her riding), then frango assado, or what some here call missionary anal, but without the anal. Frango assado is putting a pillow under her ass in mish, pushing her nice pink pussy up. Oh, that was after 69 for the BBBJ. Finish in doggy. Got the real, personal number, which was the key.

Gave her a 20 tip.

Talked dirty about her dominating another girl, having her put on a strap on and fucking some of the other usual suspects, the negras or mulatas. I think actually a red head with a strap on fucking a mulata gets vagabundo's nads pumping.

The beauty of Rio is that is all entirely possible for less than 50 USD, or at most 100.

Oh, Rio, te amo.

Mr Enternational

06-16-21, 21:59

What is the best time of day for a first timer to visit VM and what is the preferred method of transportation.Best to go about 7 pm. The freaks come out at night. I have never had a problem getting an Uber there from downtown. If I am coming from Copacabana then I always take the bus.

Mr Enternational

06-16-21, 22:01

There is no ban in effect to enter Colombia from Brazil. My flight is via Panama City. But if yellow fever vaccine is required (taken at least 10 days prior to departing Brazil), I'm fucked.There had been a ban for months. When did it end? Okay.. I looked it up. It ended May 12.

https://www.eltiempo.com/amp/politica/gobierno/colombia-reactiva-vuelos-desde-y-hacia-brasil-588224

Golfinho

06-16-21, 22:57

There is no ban in effect to enter Colombia from Brazil. My flight is via Panama City. But if yellow fever vaccine is required (taken at least 10 days prior to departing Brazil), I'm fucked.I'd advise anyone to avoid transiting Panama City. This may be out of date by now, but on a flight last month they were scrutinizing every passenger on the flight from Colombia and pulling people aside and giving them choice of taking a covid test on the spot or being subject to immediate quarantine. They were also doing this on flights from Brazil. The situation of course is changeable. I didn't appreciate the vibe or the attitude; despite the convenient Star Alliance connection which I've used many times, it'll be a long time before I transit PTY again. Their new terminal, BTW, is nothing special; t looks like a Chinese job, minus the rough edges.

SinfullyKorean

06-16-21, 23:54

This is not true. It is only legal for the prostitute to sell herself. It is illegal for anyone else to profit from the sale of sex except the prostitute.Does that mean these clinicas and prives are illegal?

SinfullyKorean

06-16-21, 23:59

That is because she just recently changed her name. She used to be known as Maia or Mayra, and now is Vitoria. She worked at a Prive 3 or 4 years agao, then gave the Termas a try, and now is back to Prive work place. Enjoy!Ah that makes sense. Victory is excellent. I've booked a 2 HR appointment with her since there's not much to do before my flight, and I'd rather just chill with her than wander around aimlessly with my carry-ONS.

Day 4

Prive

I wasn't able to visit Carol, who's highly rated on GPA, yesterday. So I booked 1 HR with her. I'd rate her a 6. 5 in looks. Her face is a 7, and her body's a 6. She has a bit of a gut, but has large, natural breasts. She says she doesn't like her pics on Onix because they've been shopped. I guess lots of clients as her about her pics? What she lacked in looks, she made up for in excellent GFE service. She started by asking if I enjoy kissing, and I answered in the affirmative. From there, the DFK was mind blowing. The way she worked her tongue, I think it's the best kissing I've experienced thus far. It's kind of funny how every time I write a review, I feel like I'm saying "This is the best GFE so far. " LOL. But it's true, the GFE sessions have been getting better and better. Her BBBJ was also very good, with plenty of eye contact. After a while, she put the cover on. We only went for CG. I didn't want to switch positions because the kissing was so intense. After finishing round 1, we just kept kissing. Kissing and talking for a good 20 min. Then round 2 started, but I had a hard time keeping it up in K9. I thought I was done and we just went into MISH where we were just making out. Her wonderful DFKs got me hard again. This time, I was able to complete round 2. Only the 2nd time during my Brazil trip that someone's been able to get 2 out of me so far.

Boates

I was pretty excited to check out what these boates and termas had to offer. I'd already unloaded 2 for the day, so I knew I'd be thinking with my big head and not my little. I decided before going in that I'd only session if I found a 9 or 10.

First, we went to Terma 65 (entrance fee R50). Most of the girls were large and / or tall. Not really either of our styles. So after finishing our drinks (beer R20), we headed over to 4 x4. If you're visiting by yourself, I don't recommend walking from one place to another. Streets are narrow, dark, and do not have many people around. 4 x4 was much more to my liking (entrance: R50, beer: R20). There was a party going on, so lots of girls were going crazy, some making out with one another. There were probably about 5 solid 8's. Most were lower. One 8 noticed I was eyeing her, came over and started making out. My buddy decided to head over to 502 where he found a girl to his liking immediately. While I'm making out with this cutie, and she's molesting me under my robe. About an hour later, I get a text from my friend saying he's done. So we meet back outside and head over to MAB'S. We eat and drink. There's this really cute, tall branca. She reminds me of a young Julia Roberts (Pretty Woman reenactment? LOL). But when we got to my hotel (no issues with front desk), I found her to be just a bit too thin with saggy breasts. I think she was still lactating from just having a kid. But it didn't seem like she wanted me to make the milk come out. So an hour of making out, getting a BBBJ cost me R280. It wasn't too bad.

I don't think I like the boates and termas scene as much as I do the prives. Reason being, one girl (Beatrice) was great GFE while in the club. But when in the bedroom, she seemed eager to leave, even though the session was decent. 2nd reason: it could turn out to be an expensive mistake. This last girl from MAB's isn't necessarily an expensive mistake. But compared to prives, she was. The half HR I got from Victoria was half the price of that MAB's girl. Even if you get a dud at a prive or clinica, the price is so low, at least you got your nut off (probably). And Maria (the one 10 I've met thus far), kind of ruined my fantasy with her high price. It's nothing compared to what I'd pay in the states. But I think I prefer the 1 HR fantasy at a prive. Some of these girls are so good. And more than their looks, it's their attitudes that have made me cum twice in one session. Which leads me to:

Day 5

Decided to check out Victoria at Onix again. Since I didn't want to walk around carrying my stuff, I made a 2 HR appointment and timed the session so I finish on time to make my flight. The 2 HR session was amazing. I was afraid it'd get boring. But her English is really good. Lots of DFK again, BBBJ was pretty good. Started in CG, finished in closed MISH while making out. Afterwards, we talked about travel, foods (she told me I've been eating all the wrong Brazilian foods LOL), and got into some personal stuff. Throughout the conversation, we'd DFK. I started getting hard again, so she gave me some more BBBJ, cover on, and K9. But every time the cover comes on in round 2, I start going limp. Part of the reason is because while one girl was putting it on, the base of the rubber SNAPPED on to my dick. Instead of rolling it on, she was stretching it out and rolling it inside out because she put it on backwards. For some reason, some of these girls put the cover on stretching the base. And every time they do, I'm concerned it's going to snap on my dick. Anyways, K9 isn't happening, which is a shame because her ass was pretty nice. I just lay on top of her and we make out again. Just like yesterday, the DFK got another rise out of me. We restarted round 2 and after a while, I was complete. The 2 hrs went by really fast. I'm glad I didn't take her 800 pernoite offer and just did her at her work, even though it's super small. BTW, I went to Onix 3 times, and got a different room each time. They were pretty much all the same, small rooms.

Back in SP again, but only for another 3 days. I'll probably hit up some of the clinicas again (mostly Abbobora and Prime). If I still have energy at night, I'll check out scandallo and connection.