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Turgid
07-02-21, 13:59
... There is always one newbie in our crew who is worried that Brazilian women are too big in the bunda for him....For any newbie who likes anal Brazil is a windfall. Nothing more lustful than f..king a big bunda garota in the ass.

TheDerilious
07-02-21, 16:18
Last time I checked in, I had tried out some expensive Tier 1 termas (MC and Centaurus) to great success. Since then, I visited Solarium and 4 x4 as well. While there weren't any squirting orgasms, I will still say that the service was pretty good. Overall, I had no complaints with the attractiveness of the girls or their service. I even went back to Centaurus to account for the variance of how otherworldly my first time there was and I had another great experience, though not as good as the first. In my view, at the tier 1 termas, I would recommend hitting them up around the time that the Brazilian workday ends (seems 6-7 pm is a good time). I never had an issue finding girls I liked in the 7-8/10 range. I saw a few girls that were in the 9/10 but there were getting gobbled up constantly by other guys so it may be hard to time things with those girls. In terms of cost, I felt that Centaurus was way too expensive in retrospect since the other termas provide similar value for a few hundred less Real. But, I did have one of best experiences of the trip there so I can't complain.

Jady.

As part of first post, I told you all about the amazing experience I had at Centaurus with a woman named Morena (later gave me her real name of Jady). I really liked our chemistry so I got her Whatsapp and she visited me twice more for some fun pernoites. It's always great to spend time with WG where you question if she actually really likes you (remember, its her job so don't take it too seriously). Eating companion, interesting life story, cuddling while watching netflix, and mindblowing sex; definitely a few great nights. We never talked about price during the night but I ended up giving her 500 per night before she would leave. I'm sure some will say I overpaid, but I feel that is a perfect amount for a real pernoite (not just a night / morning 2 banger).

Prives.

Alright, here is where I can preface everything by stating that this is MY OPINION. I read a lot of posts here extolling the virtues of the prives and cheap termas. They talked of grand journeys to find the hidden diamond that would cost you half what you paid at the tier 1 termas. What they failed to truly mention is that it really is a journey. I'm sorry but the quality of the girls was noticeably worse than the good termas. Even worse in my view were the amenities. You are talking about tiny phonebooths for doing the deed and overall rubbish bedding. I tried guys, I really tried. I ended up sampling at Onix Terapia (more on that later) and at a Centro terma with a lower level co-worker and I just couldn't enjoy. I prefer not to be reminded of the abject povert many WGs face while we pinch pennies or how bad working conditions can be. And that shouldn't be surprising when you are paying the equivalent of 30-50 USD for a nut. If you want good amenities and simplicity, I'd recommend one of the tier 1 termas (not Centaurus unless you want to shell out even more). Their facilities were passably good and comparable / slightly better than most average fishbowls in Bangkok. In terms of service, I will say that it was pretty good. The girls are not as into it and the veneer of authenticity is much more transparent, but the service was good, nonetheless.

Onix Terapia.

I just wanted to note that I tried out Vitoria due to her good reviews by others and I would 100% agree with the assessment. She is one of the few girls in that side of the game that spoke good English and she looked great. It is an absolute shame that she is working at those facilities instead of playing at the online game. She could easily pass for a BarraVips girl and definitely has that capability. I never got her number and I have no interest in going back but if any of you ever go there, I'd give her the advice to pay for a photoshoot, put "english speaker" on her profile, and rake in the cash. But maybe she goes for the simpler high volume, lazy bang you can get away with at the prives.

Online Escorts.

For someone like myself, I found my sweet spot in the online game. I am staying at Pestana and I have no problem bringing these girls in. Hell, they have come straight to my door without me even having to leave the room. No fuss, no extra costs, just a simple validation call to your room from the girls to make sure you are there. I was never quoted more than 500 R / HR which seems to be a fair price for 9-10/10 level girls. They give fantastic service and you can enjoy it in your own room. For the online escorts, use GPArena to read Brazilian reviews. It's a great way to ensure you are not picking a dud and I never had one bad experience. A special note, it took me awhile to hit up Julie Prado on BarraVips but this girl was probably my favorite. To me, she is 10/10 and really went wild. She doesn't speak a lick of English and rarely responds to Spanish speakers because she is normally very, very busy from Brazilian customers. So she may not respond to you in a timely fashion and probably won't respond at all if you text in English.

Extra Thoughts.

There has been a running debate between Thailand or Brazil and I don't really care to think about it because the women are so different in looks. I like both so I think it best to hit up both on rotation. I do find Rio more enjoyable as a destination because of the beach and weather (Thailand feels super muggy sometimes). The only caveat is that Rio really doesn't cater to tourists in the way that SEA does. By no means are tourists not liked or unable to get around, but English is not very common here. In SEA, most service workers understand some level of English so it is easy to feel comfortable. This even extends to the WGs since Rio seems to have a pretty vibrant local community. Essentially, a sizable portion of the high quality talent in Rio had no English knowledge which means you are probably not getting in the door there. It's not like Japan with the racism (nothing is that bad), but it does feel like there is a gap in Rio for foreign mongers due to language and their own local community that supports the top talent. I came down for a bit of work and was taken by banking industry co-workers to a "local" terma in Botafogo that blew all of the Tier 1 termas out of the water. Suffice it to say that the women were model / porn actress level with an associated price tag to boot. Some of our more frugal members here would be convulsing in anger but it was definitely a great experience if you have the money and the "in" to get into the door. That whole story was mostly just to highlight a major difference I see in Rio compared to SEA or the US, top level talent advertises openly and are available to anyone who can pay.

TiaVoyage25
07-02-21, 18:08
1.) Ask the airbnb host directly before booking.

2.) $2 to $5 USD depending on time of day.

3.) Get the address ahead of time and look for the numbers on the buildings when walking past.

4.) No, I used BarraVIP exclusively in Rio but Private55 is also generally reliable. R500 for an hour. Top tier girls in the city for the most part.

5.) Tinder is great in Rio. Say you're an (insert nationality here) in Rio for a long time and maybe add some dollar signs if you're looking for pros, remove the dollar signs if you aren't. I met many non-pros in Rio, mostly at bars though.

6.) There's a member on the board who runs a WhatsApp group for meetups. If you post decent reports on ground he may reach out to add you.


Ok before I get attacked for asking questions I did go back and read about 60 pages of post over the last week and a half. I did post once before and based on feed back from a few nice members I have decided to stay in CocaCabana for my first visit although It sounds like I ill bed spending a lot of time in Centro. So a couple more questions.

1) Have any of you had problems bringing a girl back to an Airbnb. I have a nice size budget 150 usd per night but so many hotels that I have written have told me I can't have any visitors. The few that have said they are ok just don't seem like super nice places to stay.

2) What's an average cost of an uber ride between Coco and centro. I'm sure I could take the bus or subway but I'm only there for two weeks and not sure how easy it is to navigate public transportation.

3) Are Termas and massage places easy to find walking down the street or do you need to google them ahead of time to find them.

4) Have any of you used PhotoAcompanhantes to find online escorts? Some seems very hot like 150-400 real. Are most legit or fake profiles.

5) How is Tinder in Rio? I'm 41 in great shape (not to sound like I'm full of my self but lets face it that matters sometimes) I have great luck with meeting girls in my own city in the US and even non working girls while I was in Thailand. I'm hoping I can meet a regular girl to show me around or even a working girl if she doesn't charge me $400 a day. I'm thinking my lack of Portuguese my cause me to strike out there.

6) ok last question. When I went to Thailand for the first time there was a line group to meet up with other board members who were there at the same time. Anything like that for Brazil on line or whatapp?

Ok please don't rip on me to hard for asking newbie questions, I really did do hours of reading before I made this post and after my trip I will make a first time trip report to help out other new guys.

Thanks!

Sperto
07-02-21, 19:42
I read a lot of posts here extolling the virtues of the prives and cheap termas. They talked of grand journeys to find the hidden diamond that would cost you half what you paid at the tier 1 termas. What they failed to truly mention is that it really is a journey. I'm sorry but the quality of the girls was noticeably worse than the good termas. Even worse in my view were the amenities. You are talking about tiny phonebooths for doing the deed and overall rubbish bedding. I tried guys, I really tried.No worries, nobody expects a newbie to be able to find gems in privées. Nobody said it was going to be simple. Some mongers, the "high-rollers", go to T1 termas and do their thing. Pay expensive and think they hit the jackpot. Other mongers hit the privées. Try out a few and find the result satisfying. To really find the gems, the perfect fresh newbies with 10 points bodies that starts their career in a simple privé, this takes hard work.

Some days can pass without I meeting any gems. Then suddenly I strike a small, no famous privê, with a bunch of perfect gems. Then it's time to act. Try them all out in a few days and get phone numbers. God knows I entered privées with several newbie gems, tried one and the next time the others are gone to some exclusive casa. My preference are those who GPS that started the same day as I visit the privê. As being the first customer it's good to be to gentle and show your appreciation. These girls will never forget their first customer.

Sorry for interrupting the veterantalk. Carry on!

Onyx82
07-02-21, 20:00
1.) Ask the airbnb host directly before booking.

2.) $2 to $5 USD depending on time of day.

3.) Get the address ahead of time and look for the numbers on the buildings when walking past.

4.) No, I used BarraVIP exclusively in Rio but Private55 is also generally reliable. R500 for an hour. Top tier girls in the city for the most part.

5.) Tinder is great in Rio. Say you're an (insert nationality here) in Rio for a long time and maybe add some dollar signs if you're looking for pros, remove the dollar signs if you aren't. I met many non-pros in Rio, mostly at bars though.

6.) There's a member on the board who runs a WhatsApp group for meetups. If you post decent reports on ground he may reach out to add you.Hi mate,

Also a newbie here. And also looking threw a lot of pages and doing searches but can't find the info I'm looking for.

I'm used to Thailand but I'll be going to Brazil next year instead because of Thailand being tooo fucked up ATM.

But when I'm in Thailand I prefer all nighters (LT) instead of short time (ST) but there I know the prices and so on.

But can't really find it here.

So what is the average price span if I want to take a girl and spend the night with her?

And of course I understand that it can be a lot of difference but in a ballpark area.

Going to stay a month in Brazil and thinking about 2-3 weeks in Rio and maybe one week in Patel or what's it called up north.

Best regards.

WyattEarp
07-02-21, 20:30
Ok before I get attacked for asking questions I did go back and read about 60 pages of post over the last week and a half. I did post once before and based on feed back from a few nice members I have decided to stay in CocaCabana for my first visit although It sounds like I ill bed spending a lot of time in Centro. So a couple more questions.

1) Have any of you had problems bringing a girl back to an Airbnb. I have a nice size budget 150 usd per night but so many hotels that I have written have told me I can't have any visitors. The few that have said they are ok just don't seem like super nice places to stay.

2) What's an average cost of an uber ride between Coco and centro. I'm sure I could take the bus or subway but I'm only there for two weeks and not sure how easy it is to navigate public transportation.

3) Are Termas and massage places easy to find walking down the street or do you need to google them ahead of time to find them.

4) Have any of you used PhotoAcompanhantes to find online escorts? Some seems very hot like 150-400 real. Are most legit or fake profiles.1. If that's your hotel budget and you want to stay at a nice place, stay at JW Marriott. It seems no one has had any problems bringing back guests there.

2. Everyone should figure out the subway. Google Maps will tell you where to get on and where to get off. Later in the evening, avoid the subway.

3. Mongers in Thailand would say "TIT" This is Thailand. Well TIB. Brazilian sex venues don't have flashy signs implying girls and / or sex is available. Many times the door front is very discreet. Massage places? The main deal is prives although terapeuticas might offer sex without spelling that out. Many don't offer sexual intercourse. Prives are usually in office buildings and not always well-marked. You need to know the room number so you don't roam around floors knocking on random office doors.

4. Avoid PhotoAcompanhantes.

The Cane
07-02-21, 21:52
Let us remember that he shot himself in the end! Not the way to go. Better to go while solidly planted between a tute's soft, lotioned legs! The Hemingway stuff only should go so far.

Member #4729
07-02-21, 22:21
Indeed, Vagabundo concurs.

Vagabundo hereby challenges Zebrastripes to co-author "Hemingway v Conrad in Rio" a forthcoming novel.

Kind of like Blues Brothers 2: men in black in Rio de Janeiro.Alas my friend- the Zebra now wanders the plains of Colombia-Bogota to be precise- a dreary cold city with modern brick buildings and bundled up women shuffling nowhere in particular beneath a grey equatorial sky- such a far cry from the libidinal swamp of raw sexuality and dramatic rock formations that so inspired the writings here posted.

Tonight I will be visiting an establishment in Chapinero named "Pussy House", so perhaps there is hope yet.

Zebra.

Member #4698
07-02-21, 22:28
Last time I checked in, I had tried out some expensive Tier 1 termas (MC and Centaurus) to great success. Since then, I visited Solarium and 4 x4 as well. Overall, I had no complaints with the attractiveness of the girls or their service. I even went back to Centaurus to account for the variance of how otherworldly my first time there was and I had another great experience, though not as good as the first. In my view, at the tier 1 termas, I would recommend hitting them up around the time that the Brazilian workday ends (seems 6-7 pm is a good time). I never had an issue finding girls I liked in the 7-8/10 range.

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Jady.

As part of first post, I told you all about the amazing experience I had at Centaurus with a woman named Morena (later gave me her real name of Jady). I really liked our chemistry so I got her Whatsapp and she visited me twice more for some fun pernoites. It's always great to spend time with WG where you question if she actually really likes you (remember, its her job so don't take it too seriously). Eating companion, interesting life story, cuddling while watching netflix, and mindblowing sex; definitely a few great nights. We never talked about price during the night but I ended up giving her 500 per night before she would leave. I'm sure some will say I overpaid, but I feel that is a perfect amount for a real pernoite (not just a night / morning 2 banger).Hey theDerilious,

I enjoyed reading your RJ retrospective. It reminded a lot of my own recent trip experiences. For example, I too had a wonderful in-house session with Morena (Jady) at Centaurus. I would have liked seeing her again at my hotel, but unfortunately, I ran out of trip time. We are still in touch, so maybe I will see her again when I return to RJ in October.

I whole heartedly agree with your assessment on RJ Termas. I liked Solarium the best and went their 3 times. Ha Ha. But I am looking forward to checking out MC and 4 x 4 next time. I also went to Black Pearl, a favorite of an RJ expat BM, but either I went there too early or the place is not very good because the quality was not there, and neither were very many customers when I was there on a Saturday night just after the lockdown ended.

There was only a week while I was in RJ that the Prive's were officially open, so I chose to go to only 1 Prive by the name of RJMassagem in Barra. I choose RJMassagem because they were basically the only establishment I saw with good looking girls on their website. https://rjmassagem.com.br/en/team-barra-da-tijuca/.

I had a passionate Nuru session with Clara, but to my surprise, it turned out that RJMassagem is not a full service (vaginal sex) prive, only a massage and BJ happy ending place. Clara was great, however, and I had her over at my hotel 2 days later where we consummated our relationship. Ha Ha. Check out their internet site and see if any of the girls interest you. Based on my experience you will have to go through a 2-stage process, but it might be worth it to you if you want to do the girl.

Since I was in RJ and SP in April mostly during the lockdown, I spent a lot of time with Barra Vips girls in RJ and MClass call girls in SP. Again, I concur with your report that these sites have great lookers who provide outstanding service. 500 br is too much considering the quality. I can highly recommend Barra VIP girls Monique Costa, Duda Freitas, and Yasmine Moraes. My favorite call girl or my trip, however, was an MClass girl in SP who calls herself Jheny Gauchinha. What a gal! I am looking forward to seeing her again many times.

Anyway, I wanted to communicate directly with you, but your PM function is not working. It sounds like you had a great time. I had such a good time that I have already booked a return trip to Brazil for October. Thailand will have to wait for 2022 when I hope they get their shit together and everything will be open again.

One last thing: what was the name of the "local terma in Botafogo that blew all of the Tier 1 termas out of the water" that you mentioned in your report? I would really like to go there and check it out.

NB.

Spidy
07-02-21, 23:10
2) What's an average cost of an uber ride between Coco and centro. I'm sure I could take the bus or subway but I'm only there for two weeks and not sure how easy it is to navigate public transportation.

3) Are Termas and massage places easy to find walking down the street or do you need to google them ahead of time to find them.2) The Metro Rio, is probably way easier to navigate than either the (nightmare of a sytem, that is the) Tokyo Metro Subway system (believe me) or the London Underground and isn't hard as you might think, even with Portuguese nomenclature (unlike Tokyo...urrgh!) .

Urber / Taxis are fine and good way to talk with the local Cariocas. Metro Rio is a totally cool way of getting to know the city, if you're solo or not. Zone Sul locations (Barra, Leblon, Ipanema, Copa or Leme), just take LINE #1 or #4 all the way to 1 of four (4) centro stations (Cinelandia, Carioca, Uruguaiana or Presidente Vargas).

Most prives, boates, termas and P4P destinations can be found within walking distance of these four (4) centro stations. For a fist timer, you should be fine during the day. Use your own judgement at night.

Sometimes I've often used the metro system of city to get me to the approximate location to where I want to go, then I'll take a taxi (or if I get lost), to the finish the final leg of the trip. Can be cost effective sometimes, but not always. But that's just me, wanting to explore a little, if given the time.

3) Any tool that help you navigate the city should be welcomed. If you don't fear looking like a tourist, you could go old school and buy a map. One of my all time favorite traveling pastimes, is to play 'dumb' and ask pretty women for street directions (but don't use the precise address). You just never know.

Member #4698
07-03-21, 02:25
I concur with your report that these sites (Barra VIPs & MClass) have great lookers who provide outstanding service. 500 br is too much considering the quality. Correction:

500 br is NOT too much considering the quality IMHO.

Member #4698
07-03-21, 02:51
Let us remember that he shot himself in the end! Not the way to go. Better to go while solidly planted between a tute's soft, lotioned legs! The Hemingway stuff only should go so far.IMHO Hemingway was a great writer. My favorite works by him are: The Sun Also Rises, A Moveable Feast, To Have and Have Not, The Snows of Kilimanjaro, and The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber. I have no idea what slumming in 4th tier RJ bordellos has to do with him. That is pure fantasy. As a young man Hemingway truly loved Paris in the 1920's and we all know what that meant, but he always wrote about and seemed to prefer classy broads and hookers. Ha Ha.

His sad end should have no bearing on understanding the meaning of his life or the profound insights into the human condition which he wrote about and gave to the world in his literature.

TravelGuy79
07-03-21, 03:16
Since Rio is not like Thailand and there are not flashing signs or half naked girls outside LOL how to you find the smaller prives / brothels, what's the best way to google search them since you can't type in Brothels in Rio and get results. One of the things I loved about Pattaya is roaming around and just spotting the place you want to try although I'm sure I will find other things I love about Brazil. I'm very excited for a new adventure.

TheDerilious
07-03-21, 03:43
There was only a week while I was in RJ that the Prive's were officially open, so I chose to go to only 1 Prive by the name of RJMassagem in Barra. I choose RJMassagem because they were basically the only establishment I saw with good looking girls on their website. https://rjmassagem.com.br/en/team-barra-da-tijuca/.

I had a passionate Nuru session with Clara, but to my surprise, it turned out that RJMassagem is not a full service (vaginal sex) prive, only a massage and BJ happy ending place. Clara was great, however, and I had her over at my hotel 2 days later where we consummated our relationship. Ha Ha. Check out their internet site and see if any of the girls interest you. Based on my experience you will have to go through a 2-stage process, but it might be worth it to you if you want to do the girl. I kinda like that setup actually but I never did hit up the massage places. Being that it was my first time, I mostly went through the termas to get a feel for those with online hookups to bridge the gaps. I definitely agree with Sperto that wasting time in the cheaper prives is the long man's game. When you are here for two weeks, wasting a whole day with no results or having to settle for service is not acceptable, especially because the vacationer is losing time that could be spent seeing sights or relaxing. I also believe that my aversion to cheaper prive adventures comes from age as well. When you are young, all you know is the hunt. You live in the world of young, inexperienced women, shitty housing, fleeting encounters, and fruitless nights. It's probably why most young men eventually decide to settle down and end the hunt (at least for awhile). Seems like a waste to just replicate the normal bar experience in a watered down prive environment, rather than focus on the thing people our age are searching for; quality experiences and comfort.


One last thing: what was the name of the "local terma in Botafogo that blew all of the Tier 1 termas out of the water" that you mentioned in your report? I would really like to go there and check it out.Well, the execs and I went over to a place near Hotel Panda for an "encontro" as I was told. I'm not sure how it generally works but we went to a general bar area in a nearby building where we had food and drinks. Then girls started popping in. You picked a girl, negotiated the price, and skipped over to.

Hotel Panda for the rooms. I'm heading over the Sao Paulo on Sunday with the guy who took me so I'll ask him more in person how it works or if this was some kind of sponsored event or something. I'll see if he knows where the girls are coming from because that's what I'm interested in. In Sao Paulo, I'll just be there a few days and will be focused on work so I'll probably just be ordering in at MClass or Private55.

Vagabundo1
07-03-21, 04:35
From Bogota, Zebra made his way to Cartegena, and organized a band of cargo ships with rigid rubber boats, a kind of Spy Who Loved me flotilla, manned with hookers and uber drivers. Further south, Vagabundo had his own flotilla of supertankers, tankers, cruise ships, and the odd submarine bought in bunda from odessa. Somewhere, around Natal, the flotillas collided, in a pussy riot.


Alas my friend- the Zebra now wanders the plains of Colombia-Bogota to be precise- a dreary cold city with modern brick buildings and bundled up women shuffling nowhere in particular beneath a grey equatorial sky- such a far cry from the libidinal swamp of raw sexuality and dramatic rock formations that so inspired the writings here posted.

Tonight I will be visiting an establishment in Chapinero named "Pussy House", so perhaps there is hope yet.

Zebra.

Onyx82
07-03-21, 12:00
This board is a great resource and while I may not be able to contribute any reports until later. I do want to contribute *something* so I don't get roasted for asking questions with no prior contribution.

So this has helped me save literally hundreds if not over a thousand dollars in the past few years.

Many of you may be familiar with BrazilCupid, DominicanCupid, ColombianCupid, FilipinoCupid, etc.

I've had great success over the years using the Cupid sites (for both freebies and pros) but often the cost is prohibitive. Why pay $150 USD when that can pay for 2-3 girls, right?

Well here is my method. Use a VPN and route your sign-up through Argentina. Steps and costs detailed below.

1. Open your VPN. Select Buenos Aires or another city in Argentina if possible.

2. Open an Incognito window in Chrome so your location data registers as in Argentina.

3. Go to the Cupid site you want to sign-up for. It must be a new account as they store prior location data.

4. Create an account and go to update. You will see two options: Gold and Platinum. Gold is 3000 ARS / year and Platinum is 4000 ARS / year. Select the one you want and begin messaging!

Benefits:Seems like they plugged that hole:

I use one of the better VPN's and can't access the site when it's on, damn too bad.

Not worth paying 150 $ for that shit site.

Got to wait until I'm there then.

(And yeah I know it's kinda shit because I tried it before at least in Thai and so on. A lot of spam messages just.

But yeah like most stuff you can find some gold in there).

Vagabundo1
07-03-21, 14:21
Allright, Sperto as always is spot on.

Look, here is a simple way to hava a good time in prives and even (gasp) VM.

1. OK, you need to bang a hot girl in a prive, and need a nice room. Go to: Treze de Maio 33/3206. The rooms that overlook guanbara bay are really nice. Hot girls are there, notably estephany, see her review on gparena. I mean, 32nd floor, you are watching g bay, ships come in, ships go out, as they have for thousands of years. Rooms are big. Beds are queen or bigger. I mean, it's nice.

And you are paying 120 for an hour.

2. VM. Go to casa 14 and ask for the suite. Its a pretty big room, on the 4th floor. Sure, you have to wiggle to get to the top, but suck it up you first world snobs. You came to rio de janeiro.

3. VM / Mosaico. Go to Mosaico, best after 1 AM. The tier 1 girls come in to fuck locals for half price (200 for the hour). Rooms are fine. Best long term mini relationships are to be had in the Mosaico area clubs, like the once great club red light. 502 also good once upon a time, but I digress.

4. Get either the VM or the Mosaico girl to the hotel canario, right around the corner.

VM is great. I don't care what anyone says, it is really the place where a lot of the girls you will see a week or two later in 4 x4 start. I have witnessed it. I am a true insider and I study personnel. Not just negras, but ruivas too.

And in Mosaico, you get the rio grande do sul uber germanic loira just up for a month or two, staying in recreio with her MMA stud boyfriend who wants to make a few bucks on the side so she is selling her blond uber bad ass at Mosaico girls. I am thinking of a specific girl named Gabi, which is a loira morena from rio grande do sul name if vagabundo ever heard one. Pull those blond cheeks apart and sodomize her till she yawns.


No worries, nobody expects a newbie to be able to find gems in prives. Nobody said it was going to be simple. Some mongers, the "high-rollers", go to T1 termas and do their thing. Pay expensive and think they hit the jackpot. Other mongers hit the prives. Try out a few and find the result satisfying. To really find the gems, the perfect fresh newbies with 10 points bodies that starts their career in a simple priv, this takes hard work.

Some days can pass without I meeting any gems. Then suddenly I strike a small, no famous priv, with a bunch of perfect gems. Then it's time to act. Try them all out in a few days and get phone numbers. God knows I entered prives with several newbie gems, tried one and the next time the others are gone to some exclusive casa. My preference are those who GPS that started the same day as I visit the priv. As being the first customer it's good to be to gentle and show your appreciation. These girls will never forget their first customer.

Sorry for interrupting the veterantalk. Carry on!

Turgid
07-03-21, 14:35
... I came down for a bit of work and was taken by banking industry co-workers to a "local" terma in Botafogo that blew all of the Tier 1 termas out of the water. Suffice it to say that the women were model / porn actress level with an associated price tag to boot. Some of our more frugal members here would be convulsing in anger but it was definitely a great experience if you have the money and the "in" to get into the door.....No need to hide details of the "local" terma in Botafogo that blew all of the Tier 1 termas out of the water as according to you it was very expensive and, therefore, unlikely to be 'spoiled' by gringo mongers.

Vagabundo1
07-03-21, 14:42
Indeed, he would have been better off with ganja to self medicate rather than the bottle and the ridiculous electroshock crap which lobotomized him.

All that said, Hemingway as a writer stands the test of time.

Perhaps most appropro to our subject is his book, a moveable feast.

For to paraphrase, if you have been in Rio as a man, it stays with you, for Rio is a moveable feast.


Let us remember that he shot himself in the end! Not the way to go. Better to go while solidly planted between a tute's soft, lotioned legs! The Hemingway stuff only should go so far.

Spidy
07-03-21, 19:32
I think it's the element of danger and the unknown- at least as perceived by a sheltered gringo mongers on holiday. Scandallo, etc does not provide this dramatic tension


...but he was a war correspondent, and those were brutal times...


Vila Mimosa lends itself to literary comparisons.

In addition to the perceived danger for foreign interlopers, raw and unbridled sexuality is on display amongst the squalor and decay . . .


...I have no idea what slumming in 4th tier RJ bordellos has to do with him. That is pure fantasy...NB, I couldn't help but think about, Hemingway, as a war correspondent and the trauma that goes with writing about war, would lead me to think, "Are newbies visiting Rio's VM bordellos, having a traumatic event?" and hence out comes their inner Hemingway, when they report on ISG.

Okay, it is perhaps a bit of a stretch and as you say "pure fantasy", but it did make me wonder.

Vagabundo1
07-03-21, 19:46
Hemingway and Gellhorn.

I would commend to our band of brothers the movie, Hemingway and Gellhorn, which is about 1937-40 when he was in the spanish civil war, with hookers, etc in a hotel in Barcelona, which I should visit, BTW.

Hemingway's the literary saint for we mongers.

Along with the saints of sinners, like Augustine, who after all wrote city of god, and confessions, in which he confessed a life of sin, multiple wives, african women in north africa. Sound familiar?

There is a fine book about hemingway as a spy: soldier, sailor, writer, spy.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GCCT3WK/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1


NB, I couldn't help but think about, Hemingway, as a war correspondent and the trauma that goes with writing about war, would lead me to think, "Are newbies visiting Rio's VM bordellos, having a traumatic event?" and hence out comes their inner Hemingway, when they report on ISG.

Okay, it is perhaps as you say "pure fantasy", but it did make me wonder.

Smokers Rule
07-03-21, 20:27
I was on the fence but reading the board here makes me feel better about visiting for a week in August.

Things seem to be sufficiently open and "normal. " Any thoughts otherwise before I bite the bullet? It's time to get back and on with it.

TuneFor
07-03-21, 21:59
I was on the fence but reading the board here makes me feel better about visiting for a week in August.

Things seem to be sufficiently open and "normal. " Any thoughts otherwise before I bite the bullet? It's time to get back and on with it.I arrived today.

So far seems same as like in December, lets see tonight with bars and clubs, last time many clubs closed.

But be ready on mask madness, it is worst then in Europe.

If anyone is tonight free bored, jetleged for beer somewhere on Copa hit me with PM.

Xpartan
07-04-21, 04:29
Hi mate,

Going to stay a month in Brazil and thinking about 2-3 weeks in Rio and maybe one week in Patel or what's it called up north.

Best regards.If you're staying in Rio for 3 weeks, read and contact Senor Vagabundo who has all answers to your questions, and then some. He might help if he likes you, LOL.


Alas my friend- the Zebra now wanders the plains of Colombia-Bogota to be precise- a dreary cold city with modern brick buildings and bundled up women shuffling nowhere in particular beneath a grey equatorial sky- such a far cry from the libidinal swamp of raw sexuality and dramatic rock formations that so inspired the writings here posted.

Tonight I will be visiting an establishment in Chapinero named "Pussy House", so perhaps there is hope yet.

Zebra.Yes. Having been to both cities, I'd go in the opposite direction: Bogota, then Rio.

Also, according to many reports on Bogota thread, Pussy House has turned into a rip-off joint.

Xpartan
07-04-21, 05:16
Seems like they plugged that hole:

I use one of the better VPN's and can't access the site when it's on, damn too bad.

Not worth paying 150 $ for that shit site.
I have a cheap VPN service and can confirm that the method IndecentPro generously shared with us works fine.

Follow the exact steps he outlined in his post and it'll get you to 4000 ARS per year for Platinum.

If you can't open the site, dump your better VPN, and use another one.


I arrived today.

But be ready on mask madness, it is worst then in Europe.Where are masks required? Judging by the reports, I thought it's business as usual.

Onyx82
07-04-21, 09:18
I have a cheap VPN service and can confirm that the method IndecentPro generously shared with us works fine.

Follow the exact steps he outlined in his post and it'll get you to 4000 ARS per year for Platinum.

If you can't open the site, dump your better VPN, and use another one.
Ah thanks I will try it again later.

Thought Nord VPN would be able to do it.

TShelby
07-04-21, 12:28
I arrived today.

So far seems same as like in December, lets see tonight with bars and clubs, last time many clubs closed.

But be ready on mask madness, it is worst then in Europe.

If anyone is tonight free bored, jetleged for beer somewhere on Copa hit me with PM.How are things going? I am interested for next August. Thanks!

The Cane
07-04-21, 12:47
His sad end should have no bearing on understanding the meaning of his life or the profound insights into the human condition which he wrote about and gave to the world in his literature.True. It's just that this isn't a literature club. It's a place to discuss P4P around the world. Really wanting us all to get back to exactly what the site is about, and I'm positive that isn't to discuss the contributions of Hemingway, or any other literary giant. The only "literary giants" around here who matter are those who write good field reports!

TuneFor
07-04-21, 17:52
How are things going? I am interested for next August. Thanks!Restorants and bars are open, I think until 2 am.

Went last night to check Monte Carlo around 1 AM, I was, only costumer inside, had a drink with girl which is some kind of manager there and she said that around 3 should be more crowd.

Was akward being there alone, was mostly interested to see the place and have few drinks and maybe session if I feel urge to but didnt eventually.

Then went to P4 P, was writen on google that is closed but was thinking must be mistake or outdated.

Well, I was wrong.

Went back with same taxi to Copa and called it a night as I didn't sleep night before and was jetlegged.

Smokers Rule
07-04-21, 18:24
It helps to know opening hours and what is currently available. Appreciate your reports on the ground!


Restorants and bars are open, I think until 2 am.
.

Member #4729
07-04-21, 20:20
Guys,

IDK about Bogota. It's cold, high altitude, difficult to get things done, and most importantly these girls will just not do BBBJ and the associated extras. It's hard to cope when something that is so central to my sex routine and so abundant and freely given in Rio is now just not on the menu- or at least is only given by 1/5 ladies for an extra price. Looking back at the termas and how those girls would just immediately start making out with you and allow you to feel them up- I realize perhaps Rio mongers take this state of affairs for granted. And so I say to you, do not take it for granted.

Can any of our experienced and wise members articulate on this difference between Bogota and Rio a bit further? A girl I was talking to said she didn't do BBBJ because "she didn't want to die", I mean, seriously? Has there been some evil NGO planting anti-sex conspiracy theories in these girls heads? And perhaps more significantly, will this be the case in Medellin as well? I recall a similar state of affairs in Costa Rica.

I know it's not a Rio thread topic per se, but I hope I can get away with it as a recent poster here and as relevant due to the real time comparison.

Hope all is well in Rio.

Onyx82
07-04-21, 22:32
How are things going? I am interested for next August. Thanks!You also have plans to go in August 2022?

What dates? (I'm planning to go around 22/8 and staying a month, celebrate my 40th bday in Brazil).

WyattEarp
07-04-21, 23:28
Went last night to check Monte Carlo around 1 AM, I was, only costumer inside, had a drink with girl which is some kind of manager there and she said that around 3 should be more crowd.I'm not sure any Rio termas is happening at 1 AM and later.

GoodTimes1031
07-05-21, 00:50
So after reading through and finding wealth of useful information for the hobby in Rio De Janeiro I felt like I should do my duty and see what I can do to add the the reports. For the last few years I've made several trips to Thailand. Although going to Brazil was always an option I considered. However my preference for small petite girls made it hard to turn away from my favorite. Covid of course taking that opportunity away for the time being I ended up getting my fix in São Paulo for a couple of weeks last August. Also because of Covid however most of the adult entertainment venues were closed (so glad they'll be open for my upcoming trip). So I relied almost entirely on online escorts. The first thing I learned is that Catfishing is horrible in São Paulo. It took a few tries to get the hang of figuring out which profiles were real. (Verified photos, reviews, etc.). After which I hand a pretty good time. Another difference I've noticed is you don't have to have any idea of what you're doing in Pattaya but a little knowledge helps a lot in Brazil. Which is what brought me to this forum. And yet another difference, to my delight, is Anal is a lot easier to come by in Brazil and more than anything else you can find absolutely every kind of look a girl had around the world there.

I'm going back to Brazil again in 2 days. This time I'm going to spend a week in Rio and then another in São Paulo. I'm looking forward to trying out the termas this time around. I've also always done my mongering solo other than the first time I went. Maybe I'll get a chance to meet up with some of the members there. I'll post reports for the upcoming days.

SixFourApache
07-05-21, 01:02
Heads up to anyone visiting, even if you're vaccinated you still need to do a rapid test to prove that you're not carrying the virus that devastated part of the country. When I was checking in for my flight they wouldn't even check me in until I'd filled a form from the Brazilian government's website and showed proof that I was negative for the virus.

About the rumors of Centaurus ripping people off, they are true so be careful when you visit and use your common sense.

I'm currently using the agency Agenda31 to connect with some providers and so far I'm impressed. I got to hang out with Manu and her pictures 100% accurate. Being in Rio is depressing because I got to experience it so late. If you're planning the trip then I'd recommend that you do not hold back especially if you're vaccinated. Just as many mongers have stated, Sao Paulo does have a lot of beauties.

Lefeu
07-05-21, 03:21
...Can any of our experienced and wise members articulate on this difference between Bogota and Rio a bit further? A girl I was talking to said she didn't do BBBJ because "she didn't want to die", I mean, seriously? Has there been some evil NGO planting anti-sex conspiracy theories in these girls heads? And perhaps more significantly, will this be the case in Medellin as well? I recall a similar state of affairs in Costa Rica.

I know it's not a Rio thread topic per se, but I hope I can get away with it as a recent poster here and as relevant due to the real time comparison.

Hope all is well in Rio.I don't know much about Bogota, but I am fairly familiar with Medellin and Cartagena. For BBBJ service, it depends which type of girl you are dealing with. Casa girls generally do not provide BBBJ, and some will offer it with an additional fee.

However, higher end girls do give BBBJ, and it is expected. By higher end, I mean WGs that charge higher rates, such as freelancers, club girls, or FB girls.

Vagabundo1
07-05-21, 09:38
https://youtu.be/ToQ8PWYnu04

Perhaps try this, haha.

Make your way to Cartagena, and from there by boat back south, herr conrad.


Guys,

IDK about Bogota. It's cold, high altitude, difficult to get things done, and most importantly these girls will just not do BBBJ and the associated extras. It's hard to cope when something that is so central to my sex routine and so abundant and freely given in Rio is now just not on the menu- or at least is only given by 1/5 ladies for an extra price. Looking back at the termas and how those girls would just immediately start making out with you and allow you to feel them up- I realize perhaps Rio mongers take this state of affairs for granted. And so I say to you, do not take it for granted.

Onyx82
07-05-21, 12:50
Hi guys,

A question from a newbie here.

Next year I plan to go to Brazil to stay one month.

Met a guy at the gym who has been there a lot and he really recommended staying in Rio and close to Copacabana.

But he isn't a monger like us, so questions I have is:

Is it worth staying one month in Rio or should I go somewhere else too? (Or even go to Colombia in the same trip etc).

What is your experience?

And what would you recommend a newbie? (mostly been mongering in Asia but they are kinda of the table ATM).

And I have no Spanish or Portuguese skills.

(is the English worse then broken Thai English?

Best regards Joe.

Charm City Dave
07-05-21, 18:10
About the rumors of Centaurus ripping people off, they are true so be careful when you visit and use your common sense.
That's funny, that was true 20 years ago when I was frequently in Rio and on this Rio board. You had to check your bill carefully but they had some of the hottest women.

Haven't been to Rio since 09. Considering going back to I'm looking at post here again. How much is a session at Centaurus these days?

Vagabundo1
07-05-21, 21:54
Codename Vagabundo. License to Kill. Hemingway and Bond Adventure Travel Genre.

Vagabundo is sitting here in the sauna at 4 x4, which is a de facto co-working space (the password for the WIFI's at 4 x4 is buenos44). This may be the best place in the world to:

1) Trade stocks, options, any financial instrument.

2) Write legal briefs.

3) do any remote work, now that there is WiFi.

4) be an anonymous client of anonymous sex workers, IE, a secret agent, to wit.

Hemingway is the same genre as Fleming, Ian, Bond 1-25, for which gentlemen of the Jury, Vagabundo offers exhibit 1, the movie, License to Kill, which was in fact filmed at the Hemingwayhome.com in Key West, FL, wherein the anon secret agent was shot at from the light tower while on the balcony around the Hemingway bedroom (wife #2, with whom Hem had some kids, before wife #3, Gellhorn).

Vagabundo had mongered over to TDM33 (Treze de Maio 33), 3206. His first choice had said she would only do covered blow job, to which Vagabundo said. "you're not going to be the first Rio hooker to give me a covered blow job"in perfect Portuguese. And he picked another girl.

80 reais for a half hour. Massage in between.

Vagabundo has been a little knackered.

Sports fans, Vagabundo had work -- eek, the rich world!! -- to do last week, which cut into his precious me-time, IE, chupa meu piroca time. Well, that's why they call it work. Paid rent for 6 months in 3 days of writing complaints.

Oh, as to the common question -- how does Vababundo stay in Rio? -- the answer is he has been teaching English using economist.com audio for 7 years. Gents, any one who can get on this site could get this kind of work. Play that good English audio for a few hours, and every 10 minutes stop and say something smart, and put up some clear introduction, middle, conclusion.

So, the prive girl was 20, a branca, nice mouth, slim, pretty enough to sit on vagabundo's dick, while Vababundo fantasized about Nina Deponca getting fucked by Sean Michaels in a night club in one of buttman's early films, back when he shot on a little sound stage in Van Nuys that he tricked out for his butt obsessive work, except Vagabundo fantasized about mulata nina deponca dominating branca nina hartley's virgin 18 year old ass, those nice full round bottom cheeks.

She wasn't a great performer.

Vagabundo made the mistake of fucking a second girl in the same casa, after he had been working on one girl. The girls obviously talked. Still the second prive girl got a load of leite for her troubles and it kind of dribbled out, after she rode Vagabundo's dick, and he bent her over doggy style.

Vagabundo spent the morning after the 9 h15 bus shopping for books, dropping by the casa de bombeiro.

A pro-tip: when the police stopped vagabundo, they did see the bombeiro militar wallet, and they let him and his date go.

Pro-Tip number two: never ride with a girl if there is any chance she has any weed.

Well, now, with that said, on with another day in the life of Vagabundo.

After the prive girl to milk a nut, Vagabundo headed over to 4 x 4, to link up with safado69.

Our plan for the week is:

Wednesday, 17 h, Solarium, maybe dinner before (cover there is 130 r). We are interested in Marius, though unlimited lobster tails is not available anymore.

Thursday, Paris Cafe and Perola negra in Barra (cover at both is 30 r).

So, in 4 x4, Vagabundo and Safado69 linked up. Vagabundo had a pair of sperm nurses sucking face with him, and he exchanged numbers, and told them he had sessioned, so don't spent too much time with our hero. As he types this he notes he should give them caixinhas (a little tip, maybe 20 reais). Vagabundo also chatted with a big titted girl from Curitiba, who comes well reviewed by Safado69, and with whom he traded numbers (on that note, an occupational hazard of whoring is crossing swords as eskimo bros, which is something that Vagabundo noted recently when a ISG member got all bent out of shape because Vagabundo was texting a girl he had been banging, and showing Vagabundo pics of her, etc; so, the take away is if you are in this "biz" and you share pics and name etc of a working girl, expect that your eskimo bros might seek refuge in the same passages, so to speak).

Sabado, Vagabundo may actually go to SP for a week to check out the Moema prives, as he understands that in the hood of Miruna, there is also Enjoy and other new top Prives.

Maybe.

As a rule, Vagabundo hates SP.

Also as a rule, this time of year, one should go further north, chasing the sun, like Salvador north, or Forteleza.

Because remember, the correct answers are always:

Q: How long are you in Brazil?

A: All year.

Q: Where are you from?

A: Salvador. Sou Baiano (see Tropa de Elite).

Peace and good mongering to all.

Xpartan
07-05-21, 23:26
But he isn't a monger like us, so questions I have is:

Is it worth staying one month in Rio or should I go somewhere else too? (Or even go to Colombia in the same trip etc).

What is your experience?It's not about anyone else's experience. It's about what YOU like to do other than mongering.

Do you enjoy sightseeing, exploring different places? If so, I don't know another country as diverse as Brazil. Certainly visit a few places: Iguassu Falls and Salvador first come to mind.

Do you prefer a beach vacation? Then Rio and its environs have everything you need. Base yourself in Copa and do short trips to Buzios, Ilha Grande, perhaps Parati as well.

Do you need nothing but mongering? Divide your stay between Copa, Barra and Centro and plan your vacation to hit as many targets as your stamina can handle, and then some, LOL.

There are no right or wrong ways to enjoy yourself. Just do what works for you.

Wouldn't go to Colombia, though. You don't need distractions in Brazil, LOL.


And I have no Spanish or Portuguese skills.

(is the English worse then broken Thai English?

Best regards Joe.It is much worse than in Thailand. Very few Brazilians speak English at all.

You'll still have a blast, though. Hard not to.

Onyx82
07-06-21, 00:40
It's not about anyone else's experience. It's about what YOU like to do other than mongering.

Do you enjoy sightseeing, exploring different places? If so, I don't know another country as diverse as Brazil. Certainly visit a few places: Iguassu Falls and Salvador first come to mind.

Do you prefer a beach vacation? Then Rio and its environs have everything you need. Base yourself in Copa and do short trips to Buzios, Ilha Grande, perhaps Parati as well.

Do you need nothing but mongering? Divide your stay between Copa, Barra and Centro and plan your vacation to hit as many targets as your stamina can handle, and then some, LOL.

There are no right or wrong ways to enjoy yourself. Just do what works for you.

Wouldn't go to Colombia, though. You don't need distractions in Brazil, LOL.

It is much worse than in Thailand. Very few Brazilians speak English at all.

You'll still have a blast, though. Hard not to.Thanks so much for the tips.

Tbh I usually do some exploring in Thailand but I prefer relaxing and do some mongering, the Iguassu Falls seemed nice. How long does it take to get there from Rio?

And should I bring a bird with me from Rio?

I also prefer / like to go to some cinema whenever I visit a country and just roam a bit in the mall to see how it is.

Haha yeah I might need to do a lot of cardio before leaving xD.

Ah okay, oh well worse English than Thailand but more chance of anal xD.

How is it with getting LT with birds?

Is it harder then Thailand? (I prefer a LT over ST because I like to cuddle also xD not just fuck and bye bye).

SixFourApache
07-06-21, 09:20
That's funny, that was true 20 years ago when I was frequently in Rio and on this Rio board. You had to check your bill carefully but they had some of the hottest women.

Haven't been to Rio since 09. Considering going back to I'm looking at post here again. How much is a session at Centaurus these days?I believe they are aiming at a specific group who can afford their services as I don't believe a business owner would be so desperate and would tarnish their business reputation, but it could be possible.

Let's just say that I paid to sleep with British porn stars.

Yossarian
07-06-21, 15:53
Ok before I get attacked for asking questions I did go back and read about 60 pages of post over the last week and a half. I did post once before and based on feed back from a few nice members I have decided to stay in CocaCabana for my first visit although It sounds like I ill bed spending a lot of time in Centro. So a couple more questions.

1) Have any of you had problems bringing a girl back to an Airbnb. I have a nice size budget 150 usd per night but so many hotels that I have written have told me I can't have any visitors. The few that have said they are ok just don't seem like super nice places to stay.

2) What's an average cost of an uber ride between Coco and centro. I'm sure I could take the bus or subway but I'm only there for two weeks and not sure how easy it is to navigate public transportation.

3) Are Termas and massage places easy to find walking down the street or do you need to google them ahead of time to find them.

4) Have any of you used PhotoAcompanhantes to find online escorts? Some seems very hot like 150-400 real. Are most legit or fake profiles.FWIW, $150 is overkill for an AirBnB in Copacabana. Budget a third of that (more than likely you'll end up spending less) and spend the rest on partying and getting your fuck on. Just my $.02.

Yossarian
07-06-21, 15:57
Alas my friend- the Zebra now wanders the plains of Colombia-Bogota to be precise- a dreary cold city with modern brick buildings and bundled up women shuffling nowhere in particular beneath a grey equatorial sky- such a far cry from the libidinal swamp of raw sexuality and dramatic rock formations that so inspired the writings here posted.

Tonight I will be visiting an establishment in Chapinero named "Pussy House", so perhaps there is hope yet.

Zebra.Chapinero rocks! FWIW, my contacts in Bogota tell me it is a COVID-19 shitshow now. Be safe.

Yossarian
07-06-21, 18:23
Guys,

IDK about Bogota. It's cold, high altitude, difficult to get things done, and most importantly these girls will just not do BBBJ and the associated extras. It's hard to cope when something that is so central to my sex routine and so abundant and freely given in Rio is now just not on the menu- or at least is only given by 1/5 ladies for an extra price. Looking back at the termas and how those girls would just immediately start making out with you and allow you to feel them up- I realize perhaps Rio mongers take this state of affairs for granted. And so I say to you, do not take it for granted.

Can any of our experienced and wise members articulate on this difference between Bogota and Rio a bit further? A girl I was talking to said she didn't do BBBJ because "she didn't want to die", I mean, seriously? Has there been some evil NGO planting anti-sex conspiracy theories in these girls heads? And perhaps more significantly, will this be the case in Medellin as well? I recall a similar state of affairs in Costa Rica.

I know it's not a Rio thread topic per se, but I hope I can get away with it as a recent poster here and as relevant due to the real time comparison.

Hope all is well in Rio.Yeah the rolas are definitely a different breed from the cariocas. I'll take the cariocas over the rolas most days.

Yossarian
07-06-21, 18:32
Guys,

IDK about Bogota. It's cold, high altitude, difficult to get things done, and most importantly these girls will just not do BBBJ and the associated extras. It's hard to cope when something that is so central to my sex routine and so abundant and freely given in Rio is now just not on the menu- or at least is only given by 1/5 ladies for an extra price. Looking back at the termas and how those girls would just immediately start making out with you and allow you to feel them up- I realize perhaps Rio mongers take this state of affairs for granted. And so I say to you, do not take it for granted.

Can any of our experienced and wise members articulate on this difference between Bogota and Rio a bit further? A girl I was talking to said she didn't do BBBJ because "she didn't want to die", I mean, seriously? Has there been some evil NGO planting anti-sex conspiracy theories in these girls heads? And perhaps more significantly, will this be the case in Medellin as well? I recall a similar state of affairs in Costa Rica.

I know it's not a Rio thread topic per se, but I hope I can get away with it as a recent poster here and as relevant due to the real time comparison.

Hope all is well in Rio.Forgot to elaborate in my previous reply. My experience with the rolas (women of Bogota) is mixed. They are definitely slower to warm to you than the instant make-out session you get with most cariocas. It takes work / money / display of high value to get them going. Even then, they are loath to do anything sans condom or even passionate DFK in my experience. Granted my experience is with non-pros / prepagos there. You know "good girls" or opportunistic working girls masquerading as normal "good girls".

Been a couple of years since I was in Bogota in my favorite barrio of Chapinero. Have fun dude! If you're in Chapinero, try a restaurant I used to frequent (pre-pandemic) called Chambuka. It's a Caribbean restaurant next to the Bogota Beer Company on Calle 63 between Carrera 7 and Career 8. There's a waitress there named Kelly. Big fake tits and big fake ass who can be had as a prepago if you want to give it a shot.

Yossarian
07-06-21, 18:37
Hi guys,

A question from a newbie here.

Next year I plan to go to Brazil to stay one month.

Met a guy at the gym who has been there a lot and he really recommended staying in Rio and close to Copacabana.

But he isn't a monger like us, so questions I have is:

Is it worth staying one month in Rio or should I go somewhere else too? (Or even go to Colombia in the same trip etc).

What is your experience?

And what would you recommend a newbie? (mostly been mongering in Asia but they are kinda of the table ATM)..IMHO, spend the whole time in RJ with maybe some weekend excursions to Buzios, Paraty or Petropolis. There is so much to do and see in RJ -- you need a month to get oriented and experience it. Then once you get your sea-legs under you, spend the rest of the time partying, meeting people / girls and getting your fuck on. You won't regret it. Just my $.02.

Member #4729
07-06-21, 19:34
Chapinero rocks! FWIW, my contacts in Bogota tell me it is a COVID-19 shitshow now. Be safe.Things have gone downhill in Bogota. Zebra gives it a thumbs down. En route to Medellin.

Onyx82
07-06-21, 20:32
IMHO, spend the whole time in RJ with maybe some weekend excursions to Buzios, Paraty or Petropolis. There is so much to do and see in RJ -- you need a month to get oriented and experience it. Then once you get your sea-legs under you, spend the rest of the time partying, meeting people / girls and getting your fuck on. You won't regret it. Just my $.02.Yeah it will be something like that I will most likely end up doing.

Is Iguassu Falls a good weekend excursion?

And would you prefer a Airbnb or a hotel?

Exec Talent
07-06-21, 21:47
Things have gone downhill in Bogota. Zebra gives it a thumbs down. En route to Medellin.When you are in the Bogota airport be sure to stop by the Juan Valdez Café, buy a bag of coffee, T-shirt and say Hi to Juan.

BTW, Bogota is a great city for non-pros.

Member #4729
07-06-21, 23:51
When you are in the Bogota airport be sure to stop by the Juan Valdez Caf, buy a bag of coffee, T-shirt and say Hi to Juan.

BTW, Bogota is a great city for non-pros.Went there and had a brownie that made me diabetic.

Xpartan
07-07-21, 05:13
Thanks so much for the tips.

Tbh I usually do some exploring in Thailand but I prefer relaxing and do some mongering, the Iguassu Falls seemed nice. How long does it take to get there from Rio?

And should I bring a bird with me from Rio?

I also prefer / like to go to some cinema whenever I visit a country and just roam a bit in the mall to see how it is.

Haha yeah I might need to do a lot of cardio before leaving xD.

Ah okay, oh well worse English than Thailand but more chance of anal xD.

How is it with getting LT with birds?

Is it harder then Thailand? (I prefer a LT over ST because I like to cuddle also xD not just fuck and bye bye).1. A 2-hour flight, I think. Ideally, you need 3 full days in Iguassu, and I do recommend hiring a guide with a car. The distances are vast, better spend more money and save time.

2. Well, if you fall in love, you might. I wouldn't since Iguassu has its own P2 P scene.

3. You won't find any shortages of movies or malls in Rio.

4. LT, ST or anything in between. You're the boss.

5. No, it's not harder.

Yossarian
07-07-21, 15:33
Things have gone downhill in Bogota. Zebra gives it a thumbs down. En route to Medellin.Yeah, my contacts in Bogota have been saying it is awful (on many levels) since the pandemic began. I hope Medellin is better for you.

Yossarian
07-07-21, 15:35
Yeah it will be something like that I will most likely end up doing.

Is Iguassu Falls a good weekend excursion?

And would you prefer a Airbnb or a hotel?It's all the way in the south, long trip. But, I hear it is amazing. Me -- I prefer AirBnB.

Yossarian
07-07-21, 15:38
When you are in the Bogota airport be sure to stop by the Juan Valdez Caf, buy a bag of coffee, T-shirt and say Hi to Juan.

BTW, Bogota is a great city for non-pros.Yes, it is. Especially now with the economic crisis most of the ordinary rolas are facing in the pandemic they are DESPERATE. Rolas who normally would not even consider "doing that" for money are "doing that". You can easily play white-knight, Capt Save-A-Hoe down there with very high-quality rolas now.

Onyx82
07-07-21, 16:12
It's all the way in the south, long trip. But, I hear it is amazing. Me -- I prefer AirBnB.Yeah I saw that. Looked some clips on yt and looks very nice.


1. A 2-hour flight, I think. Ideally, you need 3 full days in Iguassu, and I do recommend hiring a guide with a car. The distances are vast, better spend more money and save time.

2. Well, if you fall in love, you might. I wouldn't since Iguassu has its own P2 P scene.

3. You won't find any shortages of movies or malls in Rio.

4. LT, ST or anything in between. You're the boss.

5. No, it's not harder.1. Ah so one day of travel then 3 full days there?

2. Ah okay, is it in Foz de Iguacu then?

And do you have any experience visiting Paraguay / Argentina at the same time? (Thinking why not take 3 countries in SA when I'm so close to them).

3. Ah nice, so tired of European pricing of the cinemas (Here in Sweden its ridiculous expensive).

4/5. Nice.

Thanks for all the tips and advice for a SA newbie. With my adhd I like to know as much as possible before I go somewhere and have as much facts / inside tips as possible.

TiaVoyage25
07-07-21, 17:07
Gentlemen, as my trip comes to an end, I want to give back to the forum in the form of a newbie's guide to Rio. Keep in mind that this guide was made for the newbie, not the experienced monger spending a long time on ground. As such, my recommendations reflect 1.) my own bias and 2.) my own perception of how to maximize one's time and experience without necessarily a big focus on saving some money. That being said. Here it is:

Flights.

International. This is really subject to where you live and when you book. If you fly direct to Rio, chances are you will end up at GIG. This is the international airport that is located about 45 minutes from Zona Sul (where Copacabana and Ipanema are). When I arrived going through customs was a smooth and easy process, though I was randomly selected for extra screening which only added a few more minutes due to some issues with the guy in front of me. Once you go through customs you'll arrive at the ground floor where there are taxis and hagglers all around. Ignore them. Head over to the ATMs directly in front of the elevators that will take you to the second floor and get cash, if you so desire. Like with all ATMs, there is a fee associated with it but it is marginal (in the realm of a couple dollars). Some people don't believe in getting money here and prefer to pinch pennies by finding other locations for exchange, but this guide is about convenience and quality, rather than using limited time on getting a few more dollars. There's no right or wrong answer as it is your money and your time.

Head on up two levels to floor 2 (you started on floor 0) and stand inside the airport while you call your Uber. Uber picks up on floor 2 and it is very easy to from the door to their car without hassles. I recommend using UberVIP because it ensures you get a top rated driver who has a lot of trips. It does not cost any more than UberX, but is an added benefit with certain credit cards. You'll have to do your own research to see if your card provides this perk. The ride from GIG to Copa and Ipanema is about 45 minutes if there is no traffic. Ask your driver, if he speaks English, to explain the neighborhoods you drive by on the way south. There is a tunnel that separates the north from the south here and there are some very relevant socioeconomic distinctions.

Domestic. If you connect through Sao Paulo you're going to go through customs there so I am not familiar with that process. But once you arrive at the domestic airport of Rio (SDU) you'll find it to be clean and comfortable. Security here for my flight to Sao Paulo was quick and efficient as well, though I did travel on a Sunday when things are slow. There is a luxury lounge that you can use if you have Priority Pass and it has basic snacks, drinks (wine and beer included), and wifi. It is a very small lounge and was crowded when I arrived. I did not get a chance to look for ATMs but I am sure they are around. This airport is only 20-25 minutes from the beaches when there is no traffic.

Lodging.

Hotels. I stayed at 2 hotels during my 3 weeks in Rio. The first was the hotel Astoria Palace. It is a decent enough place that is conveniently located close to Monte Carlo, Dolce Vide, and Mabs. There are also several restaurants close by and a few bank ATMs. Some prives like Eden Spa and Alternative Spa are within a 10 minute walk as well. Astoria Palace has a decent breakfast, OK wifi, good service from the staff, a rooftop bar, and is guest friendly. For the picky traveler they may not be a fan of the spotty wifi or the loud construction noises I experienced when I was there, but it is an OK hotel that is worth staying in for the convenience of location.

There is also the Windsor California Hotel close by that I stayed in and found to be excellent. The breakfast is truly top notch (huge selection of food). The rooftop restaurant and bar are great and provide a quality view of the beach. The wifi is super fast and the service of the staff was borderline 5 star, even though it is a 4 star hotel. I am not sure if it is guest friendly, but it is in a very convenient location and is of similar distance to the venues listed above. It is a little farther from Dolce Vide and Mabs than Astoria Palace is, but I found it to be a much better hotel overall. I don't like to bring back guests so this is my preferred location from now on. Expect $40-80/ night for a quality 4-star hotel, depending on the type of room you want.

AirBnb. Some people like to have their own place where they can cook, do laundry, etc. I did not use any AirBnbs here but can say that many are guest friendly. Reach out to the host before booking and ask if they allow you to bring in female guests. Some will say no but if you do your due diligence, you'll find many that will. Avoid the places further removed from the beach, as the back streets of Copacabana can be quite dangerous, especially at night. Staying anywhere along Copacabana, Ipanema, and Leblon is great. The former is the most convenient for the hobby while the latter is the most luxurious.

Other. The experienced monger may desire to stay off the beaten path, perhaps in downtown, Botafogo, or Barra. For the newbie monger looking for convenience, I'd caution against this. Staying along the Zona Sul beaches (Copa, Ipanema, Leblon) provide convenience and comfort that will decrease the stress of the trip. Downtown (centro) is closest to a lot of the discount termas and prives, but it is just a business center overall and walking around at night alone is not safe. Botafogo is a residential neighborhood in the middle between downtown and zona sul, but there is nothing interesting there that may appeal to the average tourist. Barra is a beautiful, wealthy, beach area but it is a 30 minute uber from most venues. If you need a break for a few days, Barra is a good place to go.

Miscellaneous Logistics.

Getting Around. Experienced mongers recommend public transport. I do not. I recommend all newbie travelers use Uber. It will cost you less than $5 to go from SDU airport downtown to the heart of Copacabana. It will cost you $2-3 to go from Copacabana to Solarium. For the combination of safety, efficiency, cost, and convenience, Uber cannot be beat. Learning the public transportation system can be useful for times of high traffic (the metro is pretty good here) but overall Uber is the best for getting around easily and safely. Do not ride the metro at night if you don't know what you are doing and / or don't think you can blend in. Lime scooters are everywhere so you can also take those up and down the beach at your leisure. These are perfect to go places that are too close to Uber but too far to walk.

Don't wear jewelry, especially when walking around at night. Take off the watch, rings, gold chain, etc. You aren't here to flex on anyone. If you're here to monger, then impressing some pro with your expensive watch is quite literally a waste of your time and only serves to inflate your ego. If you get held up, I personally would just give them what is on hand. In my experience, muggers want your money, not your life. If police stop you for whatever reason, immediately start communicating in English. If they start giving you a hard time and you have done nothing illegal, ask to call the embassy. I always keep a photocopy of my passport on hand. The local police can be quite corrupt and often just want a bribe, but they do not want trouble with the embassy. This is often talked about on the board and the general consensus is to have the golden ticket (passport info) ready to go. If, however, you are stopped by the federal police, you are in the hands of legitimate authorities as they are the real deal. If you get pulled over by them for whatever reason, you've probably done something wrong.

Laundry. If you have an AirBnb with laundry facilities, ignore this part. If you don't then fret not, there are many options here. Simply open up google maps on your phone and type in "laundry" and many places will pop up. You can either pay to have laundry done for you or you can do it yourself at these places. I elected to have my laundry done for me and it cost a total of $15 for a lot of clothes, essentially an entire suitcase worth. I also asked for expedited service and got it all back in 2 hours. You can do it yourself for about $5-10 I think. I do not recommend using hotel laundry service because it is shockingly expensive. At the Windsor California it would have cost me literally $100 for all of my clothes to be washed. Despite my love of convenience, that just isn't worth it.

ATM. This is often a big point of contention among board members. You can spend your time haggling for the best possible exchange rate, doing hours of research to save a few bucks, or you can head over to the nearest bank ATM to your hotel and withdraw your cash and be on your way. Ensure you use the bank ATMs as those are the safest and have cameras everywhere. Bradesco seems to be the most popular choice and there is one within walking distance to both Windsor California and Hotel Astoria Palace. I never had any issues and enjoyed the 5:1 exchange rate. It makes no difference in my life if I get 5. 10:1 or 5:1, so choose what works best for you. I'd avoid using ATMs that are just hanging out on the street as they are more subject to card swiping. But in the days of the chip as opposed to the magnetic strip, safety against fraud has improved significantly.

Food. I honestly debated including this section because there is so much one could write. Food everywhere is good. The farther you go from the beach, the cheaper it is. I recommend an Italian restaurant near Astoria Palace called La Trattoria. Simply open your phone to google maps and type in "Restaurants" to find numerous highly rated options. Google Reviews is your friend.

Groceries and Droguerias. Plenty of shopping all around. There is a popular food store chain called Zona Sul that is everywhere. If you are staying in an Airbnb with a kitchen just walk 5-10 minutes in every any direction and you'll find a grocery store. There is a difference between droguerias and farmacias here in Brazil, but most droguerias have farmacias in them. You can get your vitamin see or vitamin V in these farmacias. In droguerias you can find stuff that you would in any CVS or Walgreens in the US for your daily needs (shaving, headache medication, stomach ache medication, soap, etc.).

Tours. Take one, you're in Rio. It would be a shame to come so far and not see one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Yes, they can be pricy, but I think they're worth it.

Phone. Most US cell phone companies offer some sort of international travel plan in the form of a daily travel pass or an actual plan. If you're only on ground a week, I'd recommend the $10/ day travel pass. It isn't worth the hassle of trying to deal with the whole CPF thing and figuring out how many minutes / how much data you need. You can get a phone plan without a CPF but it is quite annoying to figure out how and where to go. It can eat up a lot of time and energy. Bite the bullet and pay the $10/ day for the convenience of not having to worry about getting a quality cell plan when on ground. If you're staying for more than 2 weeks, then sure, go ahead and get yourself a Brazilian cell phone plan. Lots of experienced mongers of this board will disagree with me, but I'm not going to argue over $70 for a 1 week vacation.

Haircut: Mr. Haircut in Copacabana. $10 for a really fresh cut. They'll serve you beer, water, or coffee while you get your haircut as well.

Language: Learn some Portuguese before you go. Most people don't speak any English whatsoever.

Race.

I will include this part as an oversimplified explanation of racial demographics in Brazil so that you understand where you are going. Many on the board ask about race or what the situation is on ground for people of different races. I hope this clarifies more questions than it raises.

Brancas are white women, or at least women who perceive themselves as white. Some women claim to be brancas but in the US and Europe they would actually be considered of Latina or Hispanic origin. Morena can either refer to a skin type (brown) or hair color. Morenas tend to be mixed with white and indigenous, if I am not mistaken. Mulattas are black and white mix. Negra means dark skinned, typically of African descent. You will find many shades in between and may be confused by how someone classifies themselves. I steer clear of these types of conversations with Brazilians and instead find something else to talk about. As a black man myself, I never experienced any sort of racism while in Brazil. No women refused to see me, none turned their gaze away, etc. I'm not sure if it would be different if I was actually Brazilian or if I went farther south, but I can confidently say that I did not experience any sort of discrimination or bias in Rio.


Termas Tier 1.

Keep in mind this guide was written for the newbie monger who prefers quality and convenience, as I have said many times before. Furthermore, I myself enjoy brancas so my recommendations reflect where one can find the most, and highest quality, of these types of pros. Rio is such a diverse city that you can and will find something that suits your fancy, if you know where to look. I'm not going to delve any further into the depths of the racial disparities of Brazil, but finding the highest volume of brancas requires going to tier 1 termas and the sort. If you prefer darker skinned women, you're most likely to find what you want in the darkside termas. It must be noted that you can find both types in both places. RTFF for more info on darkside termas if that is where you prefer to go.

Solarium. This place is not within walking distance of any of the Copa, Ipanema, or Leblon hotels. You'll have to Uber here, though it is located in a decent neighborhood. You'll walk in, get a key, and change into a robe before going upstairs. Once upstairs, you'll notice that the venue is quite small. The girls sit on one side while the men sit on the other, almost like an awkward middle school dance. Another thing that throws some people off is how brightly lit the place is compared to other termas. Fret not, the talent here is generally very good. You'll find the girls to be in the 7+ range, at least in my experience. This is worth the trip.

Centaurus. This place is controversial among board members and I understand why. It is expensive and the talent may only be marginally better than the rest, say 7+ on average (like Solarium), but the facilities are quite nice. You walk in and pay the entry fee in advance. There has been talk that you must pay for the girl at the same time you pay the entry fee, even if you don't know if you are going to session. This was not my experience. I only paid the entry fee upon entering and paid for the girl right before the session. Once you get your key you'll be able to change and check out the facilities. There is a nice shower area that has a wide range of things you might want to use on site. There's also massages available and I believe a sauna / steam room. Upstairs is a bar area that is a little small but that is where the girls hang out. There is also a stage. The girls here are more laid back and less aggressive. They may present themselves to you when you walk in, but you generally get less of a haggle here because the focus is more on customer service. This place is sort of famous because Justin Bieber visited a few years ago. It seems like the management is riding that wave in trying to present the image that it is way above the rest, though I'd say it is only marginally so due to the slightly above average girls and way above average facilities. Centaurus is located in between Ipa and Copa, so you can scooter or take a quick Uber here if you're staying in either of those places.

Monte Carlo. This place is within walking distance of the hotels mentioned in the earlier sections of this guide. You don't pay the entry fee up front and instead get your key to change into your robe. On the second floor are shower facilities and there is also a massage room and sauna room for use if you want. I'd say it is second in terms of facilities (Centaurus is better). The girls are a mix of high quality and not high quality. There were times I went when I was wholly unimpressed and also times when the quality was out of this world. In any case, I'd say the average is around 6. 5. For the convenience, I'd say this place is worth it and definitely worth checking out daily if you have the time. Some experienced mongers don't like this place as well because it is also expensive like Centaurus. But, expensive is in the eye of the beholder. You can get a few beers and a 40 minute session in a standard cabin for just over 500 are. That is fine by me.

4 x4. Experienced mongers love this place and I understand why. There is a broad range of quality here and something for everyone. Like brancas with big butts? They're here. Morena spinners? Here. Dark skinned athletic looking women? Also here. For the quality, the price range is phenomenal as well. You can get a girl for a 30 or 40 minute session in a standard cabin and have several beers for a little over R400. This makes it only marginally cheaper than Monte Carlo, which is worth noting I think. Key word here is marginally. 4 x4 is located in Centro, so it'll be about a 20 minute ride from Copa. Don't walk around alone in this area at night. You'll see guys hanging out in the entrance waiting for their Ubers to arrive, for good reason. This place is closed on weekends and I'd say the best time to come is between Tuesday and Thursday. There's a bar on the bottom floor below the boate that is a nice place to get away from the noise. There's also a smoke room on the 3rd floor that has a bar in it as well.

Whiskeria 65. I hesitated to add this place to the list because I actually didn't session here. I found the quality to be hit or miss every time. Sometimes I'd see something I liked, other times there was not one girl I would be interested in. There was one stellar looking blonde I intended to session with but she was always talking with someone else. This is a popular place among locals. Check it out on your way to or from 4 x4, just for the sake of it. Walk in and grab a beer. Walk out and pay your R70. Not much to lose here.

General advice: When you get to a new termas, wait 30-45 minutes before deciding whether to stay or leave. The best girls are usually taken so you have to wait and then be quick when they come out.


Online Escorts.

For the newbie monger (or even experienced monger) in a new city, I recommend steering clear of the photoaccompantes website. Instead, BarraVIP and Private55 are the go-to, generally reliable source. I had nothing but positive experiences with escorts from these sites. You can either go to them or they can come to you. If you go to them, expect R500 for 1 hour. I wouldn't pay more than that. These escorts tend to be higher end in terms of looks. Communicate with these girls on whatsapp (they call it "zap") and you can google their number to see if any reviews pop up, for better or worse.


Prives.

These are hit or miss depending on which ones you go to. There aren't really many options for higher end prives in Rio, though many swear by Onix and Eden Spa. These are highly rated on local review boards which honestly makes me not want to visit them. I had good experiences at Alternative Spa in Copacabana. It is expensive (about R450 for the massage and then you negotiate separately with the girl, about R250 or so), but I found it to be worth it as the massage itself was fantastic. RJ Massagem is generally pretty good as well, but can be hit or miss. Using the Rio map, I'd give some of these a try, but be cautious as they may not be as high end as one would expect.


Mabs and Dolce Vide

These deserve a category of their own. They are bars located in Copacabana near Leme. These bars have working girls sitting outside from opening to close. Best time to get here is around 11 or 12 at night. The talent here varies and I've heard many mixed reviews. I'm personally not a fan as I find the talent to be on the lower end, the girls more aggressive, and the prices too high for what you get. As these are located in Copa at are most popular at night, use your discretion when walking around. I've heard of guys having good experiences with girls from here and I've heard of guys getting robbed by girls. Not my scene to be honest so I won't delve too deep here.


Recommended 7 Day Travel Schedule.

Day 0 (Sunday): Arrive at GIG, go through customs, take an Uber to your hotel or Airbnb in Copacabana, Ipanema, or Leblon. If there is your first trip ever, I'd stick with Copacabana. Check in and start walking around the beach to just explore. Stop at the store and get the groceries and misc. Stuff you'll need for the week. Grab a drink and just take in the sights. Have dinner at any of the restaurants along the beach and just enjoy your first day on ground. Sundays are not good for the hobby as the termas worth going to are all closed. If you're really craving to get the ball rolling, hop on to BarraVIP or Private55 and message several of the girls until you can make an appointment with one.

Day 1 (Monday): Also a bad day for the hobby in Brazil, though things are open. Use this time to take a tour of the city and see some beautiful sights. In the late afternoon or early evening, contact a prive like Alternative Spa to see what their line-ups are. If someone suits your fancy, make an appointment and either walk, scooter, or Uber there. If none interest you, walk, scooter, or Uber on over to Monte Carlo. If nothing interests you there, check out Centaurus if you're willing to pay, but otherwise go back to the hotel and call up another BarraVIP to visit or to come to you.

Day 2 (Tuesday): Now, you are in the full swing of things. Start of the day by visting a prive, or a few. There are many around as shown on the WT map. Get this done in the morning (though selection is scarce usually before 2 pm) and then take a break for a few hours. Late afternoon head on over to Solarium. Stick around for a while, have a drink, have dinner, relax. Maybe get a couple sessions in. If no one here suits your fancy, take an uber to Centaurus or Monte Carlo where you can do the same thing. Tuesday-Thursday here is when you'll find the broadest scope of quality and quantity. Depending on your tastes, you'll prefer one place over another.

Day 3 (Wednesday): Do the same thing as Tuesday, except maybe give 4 x4 and Whiskeria 65 a whirl. From what I've been told and have seen myself, Wednesday and Thursdays are the best days for these venues.

Day 4 (Thursday): No change, except by this point you will likely have been to all the prives and termas worth going to for your own particular tastes. If you find yourself craving adventure or simply have different tastes, seek out a guide for a tier 2 termas or to take you to VM. Be prepared for a different scene. If you don't want to experience this tier 2 scene, then stick with the usual program of what you have enjoyed the most. Keep in mind, the quality at each termas and prive usually changes each day, so you may get lucky on your first go around or you may have to check out a few.

Day 5 (Friday): Friday is generally not as good as Tuesday-Thursday. This is because all the locals have less of an excuse to "grab a drink" after work with their co-workers and instead must head home to their families, at least so I've been told. Stick with whatever suits your fancy at recognize that your time in Brazil is quickly coming to an end.

Day 6 (Saturday): Last full day. No change in what you should be doing! The talent on Saturdays at various venues is generally not as good as during the week, so you may find the selection to be more limited.

Day 7 (Sunday): If you are flying back to the US, most flights leave at night while check out is usually around noon. If you are really trying to maximize your time, pre-arrange for an online escort to visit in the morning before you check-out. All termas are closed during the day so you'll be left to figure out something else to do for several hours before going to the airport. Perhaps walk the beach or visit another online escort at her location. Many of them have showers and whatnot that you can use as well to get cleaned up afterwards. Take a taxi back to the airport get there early because for some reason the Brazilians care a lot about being there a long time before your actual departure, especially for international trips.

Cost of 7 day trip (in USD):

Flight: $500-$1500 (depending on when you book and where you're coming from).

Hotel: $280-560 (depending on room preference).

Uber: $55.

Food / drinks: $450 if you want to eat and drink like a king, $150 if you want to cook on your own.

Laundry: $15 (if you're only here a week you may not even need to do this).

Hobbying: $700-$2000 (you can get by on 100 USD / day or less here and find some decent talent, but if you're trying to have 2 sessions a day with top shelf quality, it'll cost you a bit more).

Misc: $300.

Total for a 7 day trip: somewhere between $2000 on the low end and $5000 on the high end. A reasonable monger looking for quality and convenience can expect to pay around $3000 or so for the week. Yes, you can spend more or less depending on a variety of factors but $3000 is a fair budget to assume, including airfare.

Xpartan
07-07-21, 18:37
Yeah I saw that. Looked some clips on yt and looks very nice.

1. Ah so one day of travel then 3 full days there?

2. Ah okay, is it in Foz de Iguacu then?

And do you have any experience visiting Paraguay / Argentina at the same time? (Thinking why not take 3 countries in SA when I'm so close to them).

1. It might take a whole day with a connected flight. Try to get nonstop.

2. Yes, stay in Foz.

The Brazil side won't take much of your time, although it has some of the most wonderful sights, so don't skip it. But you'll need at least one day for the Argentinian side, and I would take 2 or at least 1. 5 days there because I hate rushing wonderful things. Visiting Paraguay as well as other tourist activities are tacky and a waste of time, IMHO, but you might want a day to relax by the pool or to actually monger. 3 full days should be perfect, 4 if you want some time to relax.

We stayed in a fantastic 3 bdrm Airbnb with a private pool under $100 a night. Accommodations are cheap in Iguassu.

So three days for sightseeings.

Jimmy Boy 99
07-07-21, 18:54
1. It might take a whole day with a connected flight. Try to get nonstop.

2. Yes, stay in Foz.

The Brazil side won't take much of your time, although it has some of the most wonderful sights, so don't skip it. But you'll need at least one day for the Argentinian side, and I would take 2 or at least 1. 5 days there because I hate rushing wonderful things. Visiting Paraguay as well as other tourist activities are tacky and a waste of time, IMHO, but you might want a day to relax by the pool or to actually monger. 3 full days should be perfect, 4 if you want some time to relax.

We stayed in a fantastic 3 bdrm Airbnb with a private pool under $100 a night. Accommodations are cheap in Iguassu.

So three days for sightseeings.He may not be able to get into Argentina.

https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-safety/south-america/argentina/travel-alert

Onyx82
07-07-21, 19:55
He may not be able to get into Argentina.

https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-safety/south-america/argentina/travel-alertI'll not be going until August next year when I turn 40.


1. It might take a whole day with a connected flight. Try to get nonstop.

2. Yes, stay in Foz.

The Brazil side won't take much of your time, although it has some of the most wonderful sights, so don't skip it. But you'll need at least one day for the Argentinian side, and I would take 2 or at least 1. 5 days there because I hate rushing wonderful things. Visiting Paraguay as well as other tourist activities are tacky and a waste of time, IMHO, but you might want a day to relax by the pool or to actually monger. 3 full days should be perfect, 4 if you want some time to relax.

We stayed in a fantastic 3 bdrm Airbnb with a private pool under $100 a night. Accommodations are cheap in Iguassu..1. a whole day even flying from Rio?

Wow so bad connections in Brazil then xD.

2. Yeah that's what I thought.

About Paraguay it's just that I want to be able to tick off another country in my to visit list (and when I'm so close and most likely never will go there in another trip so then I'll just visit a quicky.

If I've not seen wrong so is Paraguay half of the city and the other part is in Brazil?

So you would recommend booking Foz threw Airbnd?

Thanks for all the tips and so on.

Will most likely spend 5 days in total with trips back and forth to Foz and Rio.

Xpartan
07-07-21, 21:29
He may not be able to get into Argentina.

https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-safety/south-america/argentina/travel-alertFor a second there forgot about the times we're living in.

Nordico
07-07-21, 21:42
Thanks so much for the tips.

Tbh I usually do some exploring in Thailand but I prefer relaxing and do some mongering, the Iguassu Falls seemed nice. How long does it take to get there from Rio?

And should I bring a bird with me from Rio?

I also prefer / like to go to some cinema whenever I visit a country and just roam a bit in the mall to see how it is.

Haha yeah I might need to do a lot of cardio before leaving xD.

Ah okay, oh well worse English than Thailand but more chance of anal xD.

How is it with getting LT with birds?

Is it harder then Thailand? (I prefer a LT over ST because I like to cuddle also xD not just fuck and bye bye).If you go to Foz, you should also visit the Itaipu dam. It sounds boring, but it's not. If you go, take the longest tour and you will see the turbines and control room etc. The dam is almost 8 km long and 200 m high. Very interesting.

Horatio
07-07-21, 23:17
I like to sit in beer bars in Thailand and play games with the workers. If we get along I can take her back to hotel. Does Rio have something similar? I don't need sex everyday and enjoy the company. I like sitting outside at a bar relaxing with a friendly woman.

Also my plan is to go to Rio, stay in an Airbnb for a couple days then figure out things as I go. I want to be there for a month. Should I have a better plan?

Thanks for any advice or help.

Member #4729
07-07-21, 23:38
I like to sit in beer bars in Thailand and play games with the workers. If we get along I can take her back to hotel. Does Rio have something similar? I don't need sex everyday and enjoy the company. I like sitting outside at a bar relaxing with a friendly woman.

Also my plan is to go to Rio, stay in an Airbnb for a couple days then figure out things as I go. I want to be there for a month. Should I have a better plan?There is nothing like this in Brazil. At all. Closest thing might be to sit and hang out with some hookers at Mab's but they're not getting paid by the bar or by the "lady drink" and if you don't express interest in their services they will walk. I don't think its a good idea to "figure things out as I go", and yes you should have a better plan.

I was once in your shoes, and many mongers that formerly would have visited SEA are now gravitating towards SA, but they are categorically different destinations. You might start by reading the forum (RTFM), and then ask questions. TiaVoyager just wrote a comprehensive guide for newbies that could get you started.

TuneFor
07-08-21, 00:05
I like to sit in beer bars in Thailand and play games with the workers. If we get along I can take her back to hotel. Does Rio have something similar? I don't need sex everyday and enjoy the company. I like sitting outside at a bar relaxing with a friendly woman.

Also my plan is to go to Rio, stay in an Airbnb for a couple days then figure out things as I go. I want to be there for a month. Should I have a better plan?

Thanks for any advice or help.Never been in Thailand but don't think you will find anything similiar here, at least I didn't.

Lack of English language around and not enough of good women in every day life is something that you will need to deal with in Rio.

Airbnb offers good value for money.

Most buildings have doorman or receiption but don't bother asking owner can you bring someone as you might get No for answer but in reality is different from my experience.

Be careful where is appartment located as most of then in Copa are just hanging over street and is too noisy to sleep.

Sawassdee
07-08-21, 02:03
Gentlemen, as my trip comes to an end, I want to give back to the forum in the form of a newbie's guide to Rio. Excellent!!

Vagabundo1
07-08-21, 05:07
Gents,

I commend senhor TIAVoyage25, but I beg to differ.

First, I would say that TIA is among the best monger brothers that Vagabundo has seen, but not the best -- that would go to Players 2 and 3 -- not that this is a competition. I'd gladly go out on a pussy patrol with TIA in my dream team of battle buddies to have fun with.

The best place to stay in Rio is Transamerica, av gastao senges 395. Players 2 and 3 were here on their first trip, they were both rich world mongers, and they stayed for 2 months, an optimal time. Really anyone coming to Rio should stay at least a month.

The second best place to stay is in a Airbnb at or near Rua Sao Clemente 114 -- plus or minus 100 digits either way. The reason is proximity to the metro. I differ from Senhor TIA in that Botafogo is a great neighborhood. Trattoria is a great spot to eat, but: 1) Copa really is dangerous, not for a fit and alert guy like TIA, but one witnesses fights over a mere bike as a regular occurence, 2) you, the sex tourist, are the target, even on a nightly walk from posto 4 to 4.5 to get an uber on ave nossa copa, or around the tip of copa near the fort from the beach at arpoador, the aggressive criminals will stalk, and one must be defensive. Even Mr. E's brother had criminals rip off stuff.

Third, the most important thing is simply to RTFF -- not this forum, alone, but.

gparena.net

And make a list. Like.

https://www.rioencontro.com.br/stefany-hot/

https://www.rioencontro.com.br/ivy/

Experienced mongers like Bravo roll in with a "hit list" of the prives, that can easily be correlated with the numbers on the above girls, both of whom I have been fucking.

Stephany is at TDM33/3206 -- the prive with the big queen bed overlooking Guanabara harbor from the 32nd floor.

Ivy is at Bel Prazer.

And on.

ISG is fine, the best English blog for sex travelers; gparena is gold, may need some translation work, but is the best single source. Make your list. Make a spreadsheet. Vagabundo has one from 2011,90 pages long.

Players 2 and 3 were good friends, relatives, travel buddies from the rich world. They are readers but not writers on this forum, perhaps the smartest way to go, and by the looks of it the majority of users on this forum.

You can go back through my posts and find all the key points about Transamerica.

As for distance, there is a daily free bus. The schedule is on the website, which I have posted here.

But the key to Transamerica is that this is where all the best girls are, where they start out.

Players 2 and 3 had each other to keep company, and then we teamed up, I being player 1. We hit the centro prives and the casas, the trash termas. Those guys were animals. They'd fast 2-3 days a week, drink just water, and fuck more girls, like 5 girls a day. We'd rage into the centro spots and trade girls willy nilly. They are still talked about and asked for among the spots, and among the VM spots. Anyone who says VM is not the source of some of the best new girls does not know Rio. OK, the average aerospace engineering major from Ohio who goes into banking and stays at the Marriot is not going to want to deal with the smell at VM, but as I have said, and sperto has pointed out, there is a hotel, Canario, on Rua Ceara in VM. The best terma after hours is Mosaico, for the real talent.

It was not just Players 2 and 3, there were other first time mongers who have done well at Transamerica. FLCN was on his first trip, again, many months, and his last several months were at Transamerica. Mandingoblack tried to get into Transamerica, without success, and went with KSPortal.com.br at Barra Posto1 instead.

We men who pay for sex are all, invariably, dominant types. Once we have paid, we naturally think we are the king of the world, the most interesting man in the world, the uber male. Maybe we fucked brancas in tier one termas like Senhor Athens Cain, or maybe we did the 80% or 98% same quality (see Stephany, above) at the prives like Senhor Spartan Experto. But, having shot our monetary and bodily wads, we crave adulation, like so many Hemingway / Flemings writing about our secret agent exploits, wanting immortality like Bond.

In this reviewers opinion, modest though it is, but based on a solid 15 months and counting operating in this sad, squalid, but happiest place on earth for a man to pay for sex, the best mongers have found a home at Transamerica, Barra posto 6, or at KSPortal, barra posto 1. Those mongers follow a inverse rule -- less is more. Players 2 and 3 never posted here, never got sucked into any competitions imagined or contrived, but they hit home runs, scored goaaaalls. FLCN, and Mandingoblack, similarly liked Barra for the relative safety compared to other parts of Rio.

Centro, Vagabundo agrees, is not for the faint of heart. But Jimmyboy99 chose well in Hotel Sao Francisco / Hotel Atlantico Tower at Rua Visconde Inhuama 95, and if he and Vagabundo can manage the risk of centro darkside, then anyone can. Vagabundo lived at Copa posto 5 near Othon for 3 months, but did not like the stalking street criminals, who are more than pests, they are the kind of grinding, omnipresent reminders of criminal potential that can go kinetic in 5 seconds.

In barra, there is none of that. It is thus worth the 30 minutes on the free luxury bus to get to centro, indeed, it is preferable. And if you like to swim, the water is clean, the beaches are beautiful. And of course, at Transamerica, the hookers are all at the pool.


Gentlemen, as my trip comes to an end, I want to give back to the forum in the form of a newbie's guide to Rio..

Week53
07-08-21, 05:42
Recommended 7 Day Travel Schedule.

Day 0 (Sunday): Arrive at GIG, go through customs, take an Uber to your hotel or Airbnb in Copacabana, Ipanema, or Leblon. If there is your first trip ever, I'd stick with Copacabana. Check in and start walking around the beach to just explore. Stop at the store and get the groceries and misc. Stuff you'll need for the week. Grab a drink and just take in the sights. Have dinner at any of the restaurants along the beach and just enjoy your first day on ground. Sundays are not good for the hobby as the termas worth going to are all closed. If you're really craving to get the ball rolling, hop on to BarraVIP or Private55 and message several of the girls until you can make an appointment with one.

Day 1 (Monday): Also a bad day for the hobby in Brazil, though things are open. Use this time to take a tour of the city and see some beautiful sights. In the late afternoon or early evening, contact a prive like Alternative Spa to see what their line-ups are. If someone suits your fancy, make an appointment and either walk, scooter, or Uber there. If none interest you, walk, scooter, or Uber on over to Monte Carlo. If nothing interests you there, check out Centaurus if you're willing to pay, but otherwise go back to the hotel and call up another BarraVIP to visit or to come to you.

Day 2 (Tuesday): Now, you are in the full swing of things. Start of the day by visting a prive, or a few. There are many around as shown on the WT map. Get this done in the morning (though selection is scarce usually before 2 pm) and then take a break for a few hours. Late afternoon head on over to Solarium. Stick around for a while, have a drink, have dinner, relax. Maybe get a couple sessions in. If no one here suits your fancy, take an uber to Centaurus or Monte Carlo where you can do the same thing. Tuesday-Thursday here is when you'll find the broadest scope of quality and quantity..Good sir, thank you very much for this guide; this is exactly what a newbie like me is looking for.

I'm curious about the negotiation. Is that a difficult process if one knows little Portuguese?

Turgid
07-08-21, 14:38
Gentlemen, as my trip comes to an end, I want to give back to the forum in the form of a newbie's guide to Rio. Keep in mind that this guide was made for the newbie, not the experienced monger spending a long time on ground. As such, my recommendations reflect 1.) my own bias and 2.) my own perception of how to maximize one's time and experience without necessarily a big focus on saving some money.....A veritable report of distinction. You have made those few mongers gnashing their teeth over Hemingway analogies here very happy.

Xpartan
07-09-21, 00:19
Anyone who says VM is not the source of some of the best new girls does not know Rio.Ouch, that hurt, especially coming from a distinguished and talented libertine like senor Vagabundo. Can my love for Mosaico be my saving grace?

Look, I won't say there are no diamonds to be found in VM, but why bother? Aren't there already enough avenues in Rio for good, clean fun, LOL?

Of course you can take them to Canario, but after tacking on the cost of the room, wouldn't you arrive at a typical prive pricing?

Now, if you're living in Rio and building your own harem, then I can see the point of finding some fresh innocent maidens in VM's urine-soaked alleys and saving them for yourself from the world of wholesale prostitution. But for a short-time visitor, like me, I just can't understand the appeal.

Tell you what, though, when I finally get to Rio, I promise to give it another chance.

TheDerilious
07-09-21, 02:14
I wanted to add in a few more thoughts for newbies that I learned on my trip.

Online Meetups.

When you are using the online sites, I would recommend sending out texts to a few options rather than just picking one girl. They appear to be handling their own messages so you may have to deal with them being busy or non-responsive. Once you have scheduled a time, understand that punctuality is a relative term to Cariocas. At least half of my meetups were about an 30 minutes to an hour late. So I would argue to just be aware that you either need to be very firm about the time or ensure that you are adding in a decent amount of leeway to your time. Here is a very important note for English only speakers, there are certain sites like RioSexSite and allow you to filter based on English speaking ability. Be wary of this and use common sense. When texting, if the girl is unable to respond in passable English, she probably won't be very good at speaking. I found a big difference in my texts between those who really knew the language and those who didn't. In my opinion, I would hesitate to put too much faith in stuff like that. It is much easier in my view to send out a few texts saying you only know English and those who can respond will respond. As others (and I) have mentioned, GPArena is a godsend for reviews. I would recommend using escorts that have reviews on those sites and avoid those who don't. Popping those reviews into google translate will tell you all you need to know.

Also, I don't know if others are doing this or not, but be cool. I had a girl who told me that foreign guys get too constricted and worried when ordering in. Remember, it's not illegal in Brazil and as long as you have a GFE friendly hotel (Pestana was a bit rundown but it was definitely friendly), there is nothing to be worried about. I remember my own apprehension during my first trip years back, so I understand the worry, but you'll have a much better time if you loosen up.

Repeat Costs.

Second time meetups really were much better than the first, even for cost. Overall, I found that the cost was 400-500 R / HR for the first time. But when I ordered a repeat, I often got similar quotes for the whole night. You may have to work on their schedule when they are free, but I really felt like Brazilian women understood the concept of dating. The pernoite really did feel more connected once they know you and you'll have much better service. One caveat, some of the more beautiful and popular escorts will not negotiate that much. They know their value and may still quote at least 1000 for a pernoite (I couldn't move them down any further than that). So, you will have to bite the bullet if you really like the girl or find someone else.

Crime.

I stayed in Copa and I had no issue with crime. If you are worried about that kind of stuff, stay on the beachfront for peace of mind. The area is well-lit and there are cop cars every few blocks all night long. Don't be stupid and don't get too wasted, but I felt very safe in Copa and Ipanema when I stayed on the beaten track.

Travel.

As others have mentioned, just use Uber for traveling. Most every trip I had cost between 20-35 R while tops out at 7 USD.

In regards to my experience at the encontro, I talked with my co-worker and he claims that only some of the girls were online / termas girls that get zapped for these business events. He was shooting some shit about model agencies and such and maybe he is right, but that kinda struck me as a bit of boasting. He is a lower level account manager so I'm pretty sure he wouldn't even have the details of it. Regardless, during my time in Rio and Sao Paulo, I found that many of the high-end escorts (online) were just as beautiful, toned, and service-oriented as that night.

Vagabundo1
07-09-21, 03:32
Safado69 and I did a patrol of Perola Negra and Paris tonight. The cover is 30. The talent was not good, I did not session at either.

It's kind of the off season.

Yes, I think my game is to build up the harem from some of the prives, trash termas, and a few odd pulls from the tier 1 termas over time, not to mention from the freelancers. The freelancers are the top of the food chain, as they choose who they fuck, in contrast to the others.

Mosaico is the real deal, the source of the best mini relationships over the years. The best were a mineira with natural tits, a part negra who did great pernoites. A few others. New girls from 502, and from the darkside. It is true, the darkside is hit and miss. T31 yielded my best mini relationship this year, yet, on many nights t31 has almost nothing, just 2 girls.

4 x 4 is consistently the best now. There are some of the finest rio hookers there now. Perhaps the cream of the Rio hooker crop has flown north to Cancun for the southern hemisphere winter, or to some other venue. But there are always the usual suspects to fill up the dance card for pernoites. And then there are some of the tier 1 prospects, the real porn stars in the making, who need to be tapped. A few good wingmen are in town, now, not so much of a rat pack, but a pair of quality hitters, solid operators, the optimal situation.

Mosaico, yes, it is a saving grace.

And for those who dislike writing for its own sake, among the libertine culture which is Portugal's inheritance to Brazil, and to men, look over on the Brazilian boards, to writers like Dante, who write, to write, to write for oneself, whether to be read as an afterthought, who write about the same streets we patrol, about lapa, and centro, Rio Branco, and Vila Mimosa. They write about themselves in the third person, about themselves from the perspective of an omnipresent narrator, neither God nor Devil, yet the over monger, about the night itself, as a veil which follows us as we monger on, like Santana playing for a Tijuana strip club, or like Perola Negra playing in a Porto Allegre dance club.


Can my love for Mosaico be my saving grace?
Tell you what, though, when I finally get to Rio, I promise to give it another chance.

Anaggie
07-09-21, 03:59
Good sir, thank you very much for this guide; this is exactly what a newbie like me is looking for.

I'm curious about the negotiation. Is that a difficult process if one knows little Portuguese?Google translate on your phone will do the job for you. No worries.

Lefeu
07-09-21, 04:08
Good sir, thank you very much for this guide; this is exactly what a newbie like me is looking for... indeed, excellent report

Vagabundo1
07-09-21, 04:08
Further, the metro is one of the great mongering routes of the world. The metro not just from Copa's stops to centro (Carioca, Uruguiana, Presidente Vargas, Central), but out to Metro Sans Pena (Annes Massagem).

I like the Metro and not just the metro the city buses, like the 457, which goes from copa to zona Norte.

It may be a degree of difficulty, but it is a worthwhile challenge to pick up girls on the buses.

Moreover, the spots like Vitirrini in Barra and the night spots in Gavea / Leblon are the locals of some of the best non pros.

BoldNineK
07-09-21, 16:20
Hey guys,

I needed some help from VM vets here. I'm a 35 year old crazy sex addict and have probably fucked over 500 women in my time many of them escorts and hookers around the world so I'm not afraid of visiting seedy / grimy areas. I look like a latino guy so don't stand out like a sore thumb. I love Bareback sex and touchwood haven't gotten anything yet. Recently got tested again and everything came back negative.

Anyways I wanted to go to VM on a 2 Day Rampage and what that essentially means is that.

A) I will only drink / eat light Soups and not eat any food. Just Water.

B) I get naturally very very hard but still will be using a 100 MG Viagra for ultimate pleasure maybe some molly if available.

C) I Want to fuck 4 women every day each for 3-4 hours (anal, bareback sex, rough rugged play).

D) This is my ideal Scenario.

9 AM - 12 PM (Girl 1) Rest for 2 hours.

2 PM - 5 PM (Girl 2) Rest for 2 hours.

7 PM - 10 PM (Girl 3) - Rest for 2 Hours.

12 AM - 3 AM (Girl 4) - Go Back to Hotel and sleep for 6/7 Hours and Repeat from 9 AM.

What I need help with is basically a place or a room that I can stay for the whole day in the heart of VM, be able to walk out select a girl bring her back for 3 hours, then go back out again select another girl and bring her back for 3 hours. My Budget Per day is $800 Dollars.

Is what I mentioned possible? I love grimy, sweaty, rugged sex hence why I prefer VM to a more upscale area.

Rio Bob
07-09-21, 16:20
Head over to the ATMs directly in front of the elevators that will take you to the second floor and get cash, if you so desire. Like with all ATMs, there is a fee associated with it but it is marginal (in the realm of a couple dollars). Some people don't believe in getting money here and prefer to pinch pennies by finding other locations for exchange, but this guide is about convenience and quality, rather than using limited time on getting a few more dollars. There's no right or wrong answer as it is your money and your time.

First of all this is an excellent guide for the new Rio Visitor. Also about the ATM in the airport, through the years the only caution I've read about this ATM was not about costs but about security. Not sure if this is true today but this ATM there have been many complaints that a card reader was installed and your ATM card was being copied and used to empty your accounts, so be careful. Plus if you're advocating using uber you don't need any cash until you get into town and use a better method like exchanging cash or a more secure ATM in a bank. Just my 2 cents.

Ptgbac
07-09-21, 20:50
Safado69 and I did a patrol of Perola Negra and Paris tonight. The cover is 30. The talent was not good, I did not session at either.

It's kind of the off season.

Yes, I think my game is to build up the harem from some of the prives, trash termas, and a few odd pulls from the tier 1 termas over time, not to mention from the freelancers. The freelancers are the top of the food chain, as they choose who they fuck, in contrast to the others.

Mosaico is the real deal, the source of the best mini relationships over the years. The best were a mineira with natural tits, a part negra who did great pernoites. A few others. New girls from 502, and from the darkside. It is true, the darkside is hit and miss. T31 yielded my best mini relationship this year, yet, on many nights t31 has almost nothing, just 2 girls.

4 x 4 is consistently the best now. There are some of the finest rio hookers there now. Perhaps the cream of the Rio hooker crop has flown north to Cancun for the southern hemisphere winter, or to some other venue. But there are always the usual suspects to fill up the dance card for pernoites. And then there are some of the tier 1 prospects, the real porn stars in the making, who need to be tapped. A few good wingmen are in town, now, not so much of a rat pack, but a pair of quality hitters, solid operators, the optimal situation..Vagabundo, I'm Portuguese. Portugal culture is far from libertine, we are much more alike Italians. Women have always ruled the households, behind the patriarch culture in the past, it was matriarch in some way.

Brazilian libertine culture is much more due to the African descent. It's very noticeable if you go to south, Santa Catarina, Porto Alegre, where women are much more introverted and difficult to approach. Or even São Paulo.

What I can say is that globalization has it Europe much like the USA, and over here it's a sex prison as well. And Brazil is going the same way in the future, specially given the political stance over there, All we can do is take the last shots in that paradise.

I'm hoping to get to Rio in near future, maybe my Portuguese Will be of some help.

Vagabundo1
07-09-21, 21:08
Sheik hotel.

250 ir 300 r.

Standing bareback anal while declaring to ave Gomes Freire, "papa Francisco ama você", priceless.

Vagabundo1
07-09-21, 21:25
Mosaico talent.

Men anyone can shoot big game in a zoo.


Ouch, that hurt, especially coming from a distinguished and talented libertine like senor Vagabundo. Can my love for Mosaico be my saving grace?

Look, I won't say there are no diamonds to be found in VM, but why bother? Aren't there already enough avenues in Rio for good, clean fun, LOL?

Of course you can take them to Canario, but after tacking on the cost of the room, wouldn't you arrive at a typical prive pricing?

Now, if you're living in Rio and building your own harem, then I can see the point of finding some fresh innocent maidens in VM's urine-soaked alleys and saving them for yourself from the world of wholesale prostitution. But for a short-time visitor, like me, I just can't understand the appeal.

Tell you what, though, when I finally get to Rio, I promise to give it another chance.

Member #4729
07-10-21, 00:06
A) I will only drink / eat light Soups and not eat any food. Just Water.
My favorite part of this whole vignette- it's like he is preparing to transcend the astral plane by partaking in a religious sacrament which requires a state of purification and ablution.

This is either a brilliant troll or someone who will definitely soon have one or many venereal diseases and a dick that looks like pulverized meat.

Either way I have no idea about your question concerning a suitable room for you to operate in but I'm sure Vagabundo1 or some other aficionado will answer the call.

Vagabundo1
07-10-21, 02:01
Friday, Vagabundo went into centro, met Nina Deponca at Largo do Machado, where she once worked in a prive. After they went to centro on some business, they headed to sheik hotel on Gomes Freire. It was 180 for 4 hours with 4 beers, hydromassagem. Two pops, good to see her again. She had been taking care of her old man, who is recovered. Now, 40 year olds are being vaccinated. My impression is the endemic is receding. Good fucking.

Walked through the streets of downtown, through Uruguiana -- the street traffic was heavy, the urban vibe fun, had some awesome fries at the corner of Vargas and Uruguiana. She waited for a bus to Zona Norte near Club 116.

Men, I have to say. The talent is superb. Not only anne amari quality negras, but the hottest -- 9's, easily -- quality morena and morena claras. The party was for a morena named kiara. She is smoking hot.

OK, I can see why it is not friendly to gringo tourists, mainly language.

Also the smoke, which is really hard to deal with.

It is a locals joint. There is no nice English speaking lady to hold your hand. It is one step up from VM, but that is a big step. But the talent.

OMFG. There were two morenas in there who are Porn Star quality. And it is 16 US Dollars to fuck them for a half.

Vagabundo did a negra who does BBFS again, but he will be back.

A ISG member who is anon is in town and Vagabundo looks forward to linking up. The other guys who are in town -- bravo and Safado69 -- are solid wingmen / operators and it is great to monger with them.

Life is good.

Week53
07-10-21, 05:47
Anyways I wanted to go to VM on a 2 Day Rampage and what that essentially means is that.

A) I will only drink / eat light Soups and not eat any food. Just Water.

B) I get naturally very very hard but still will be using a 100 MG Viagra for ultimate pleasure maybe some molly if available.

C) I Want to fuck 4 women every day each for 3-4 hours (anal, bareback sex, rough rugged play).Is this what late-game mongering looks like? I feel like my heart would give out.

UniversalX
07-10-21, 09:51
Since I had nothing to do I was on social media and saw a site that had videos and pictures, might be and alternative source.

https://garotacomlocal.com/

Anyone familiar with this site?

Vagabundo1
07-10-21, 11:29
Its my go to site. It is good. Correlate with gparena, but it is good.


Since I had nothing to do I was on social media and saw a site that had videos and pictures, might be and alternative source.

https://garotacomlocal.com/

Anyone familiar with this site?

Vagabundo1
07-10-21, 12:56
TIA's post has me thinking of what a sustainable weekly budget is. In swimming, the athlete seeks to maximize the glide.

Whoring.

3 pernoites, 300 each, 300 more for food / uber. Two shots at night, two in the morning. Get the girls from darkside termas or VM, or some of the Tier 1 termas. 400 pernoite for a Tier 1 girl, maybe 2 times a week during the honeymoon period, the first few weeks, months. Or a motel for 4 hours like sheik in centro.

Travel. 4 or 5 ubers per week, minimized by using the free bus as much as possible. Spread out over almost 2 years, the 800 USD in round trip flight for 1 month turned into 21 months or more comes out at less than 40 USD a month.

Entrada at a few tier 1 termas a week. 110 r (4 x4, Perola, Paris).

Food. 100 r in groceries from guanabara buys bolinhos de bacalau, honey, azeite, coffee, filter. Another 150 for uber eats or equivalent (rappi).

The 6 S's at Transamerica. Shit shower shave supper sex sleep. 3200 r a month (5 g Internet is an extra 200 reais; call the front desk and ask for rafa). A view of the Atlantic horizon from a high rise condo in barra, priceless.

Vagabundo1
07-10-21, 12:59
Pro Forma Weekly Budget.

TIA's post has me thinking of what a sustainable weekly budget is. In swimming, the athlete seeks to maximize the glide.

Whoring.

3 pernoites, 300 each, 300 more for food / uber. Two shots at night, two in the morning. Get the girls from darkside termas or VM, or some of the Tier 1 termas. 400 pernoite for a Tier 1 girl, maybe 2 times a week during the honeymoon period, the first few weeks, months. Or a motel for 4 hours like sheik in centro.

1800.

Travel. 4 or 5 ubers per week, minimized by using the free bus as much as possible. Spread out over almost 2 years, the 800 USD in round trip flight for 1 month turned into 21 months or more comes out at less than 40 USD a month.

200, amortized.

Entrada at a few tier 1 termas a week. 110 r (4 x4, Perola, Paris).

110.

Food. 100 r in groceries from guanabara buys bolinhos de bacalau, honey, azeite, coffee, filter. Another 150 for uber eats or equivalent (rappi).

250.

The 6 S's at Transamerica. Shit shower shave supper sex sleep. 3200 r a month (5 g Internet is an extra 200 reais; call the front desk and ask for rafa). A view of the Atlantic horizon from a high rise condo in barra, priceless.

750.

3000 reais, or 600 dollars per week. Thus calculated, I go now go to swim.

Vagabundo1
07-10-21, 14:04
Generally, Paris and Perola are best after 11 pm or midnight.


Safado69 and I did a patrol of Perola Negra and Paris tonight. The cover is 30. The talent was not good, I did not session at either.

It's kind of the off season.

Yes, I think my game is to build up the harem from some of the prives, trash termas, and a few odd pulls from the tier 1 termas over time, not to mention from the freelancers. The freelancers are the top of the food chain, as they choose who they fuck, in contrast to the others.

Mosaico is the real deal, the source of the best mini relationships over the years. The best were a mineira with natural tits, a part negra who did great pernoites. A few others. New girls from 502, and from the darkside. It is true, the darkside is hit and miss. T31 yielded my best mini relationship this year, yet, on many nights t31 has almost nothing, just 2 girls..

Vagabundo1
07-10-21, 16:18
Herr Conrad.

Me thinks it is a troll allusion to my saying players 2 and 3 fasted and fucked 5 boomers a day.

Málaga would be the base he seeks.


My favorite part of this whole vignette- it's like he is preparing to transcend the astral plane by partaking in a religious sacrament which requires a state of purification and ablution.

This is either a brilliant troll or someone who will definitely soon have one or many venereal diseases and a dick that looks like pulverized meat.

Either way I have no idea about your question concerning a suitable room for you to operate in but I'm sure Vagabundo1 or some other aficionado will answer the call.

Vagabundo1
07-10-21, 17:34
There was slim, hot negra at perola.

But when vagabundo mentioned, pernoite 400, twice a week, she said, oh, 400 is a hour.

Uggg.

The pricing these hookers get from their clubs is a turn off.

Vagabundo writes this as he sits waiting or Ana Foxx to come to Transamerica for a day of fucking, including anal yippeeee, for 350 reais.

One can get solarium girls for 400 pernoite, a few times a week, one just has to be persistent and make a market. On the other hand, once one fucks in the tier 1 terma, then the girl gets her cpf (cost per fuck) anchored, and it is hard to un anchor. Hence, one must make a market. That is, one must have a list of dozens, down select to have a dozen, and have a top 3 always percolating to the top.

Or one can pay up.

Also a positive note on anaggie's romp with 4 4 x4 girls -- that's a good performance for 8 hours. Good on ya, come back and do it again.

To add to the literature of prostitution, vagabundo listened to Marquez, "memories of my melancholy working girls" about a 90 year old picking a virgin for a birthday present to himself. By those metrices, we can look forward to many more seasons of whoring in Rio. Whoring working girls by *****mongers. Libertines, we few, we band of brothers.


Safado69 and I did a patrol of Perola Negra and Paris tonight. The cover is 30. The talent was not good, I did not session at either.

It's kind of the off season.

Yes, I think my game is to build up the harem from some of the prives, trash termas, and a few odd pulls from the tier 1 termas over time, not to mention from the freelancers. The freelancers are the top of the food chain, as they choose who they fuck, in contrast to the others.

Mosaico is the real deal, the source of the best mini relationships over the years. The best were a mineira with natural tits, a part negra who did great pernoites. A few others. New girls from 502, and from the darkside. It is true, the darkside is hit and miss. T31 yielded my best mini relationship this year, yet, on many nights t31 has almost nothing, just 2 girls..

Bravo
07-11-21, 01:53
Anyone know where in copa I might be able watch the UFC fight tonight?

BoldNineK
07-11-21, 05:26
Herr Conrad.

Me thinks it is a troll allusion to my saying players 2 and 3 fasted and fucked 5 boomers a day.

Mlaga would be the base he seeks.Haha not a troll post Vagabundo1, a real one. Care to elaborate a little on what Malaga is about I will be visiting Rio from the 6th till the 10th, happy to do some hardcore mongering with you LOL.

Vagabundo1
07-11-21, 13:54
Saturday afternoon, Vagabundo had Ana Foxxx over. It was a pretty great fuck. It started with her all oiled up with half a bottle of baby oil, DFK, just bent her over and put it in her pussy from behind on the bed. Fucked for a while in doggy, then DATY until she came. Then fucked her ass, and came in her ass.

We went to Hula Hula at Posto 7, which was crowded. The plan was to take pics, but the sun was setting. She ordered picanha, which was a mistake. I ordered fish and chips, and we shared shrimp sauteed in olive oil (paulista) which are consistently excellent. We had a bottle of rose from a South African vinter. Senegalese vendors come by, and Vagabundo consistently networks with these guys. Real insiders study personnel.

We came back, and fucked again, it was a pretty animalistic fucking. Mish, doggy for the finish, oral in between, watching Ana Foxx porn with a girl who bears a resemblance but is 20, not 31 or more. Paid her 400, plus uber, plus 300 for dinner.

Anaggie
07-11-21, 14:17
Also a positive note on anaggie's romp with 4 4 x4 girls -- that's a good performance for 8 hours. Good on ya, come back and do it again.Ticket booked and confirmed for mid August arrival into Rio. One night at 4 x4 followed by three nights saved for Scandello .. if it stays open and is running almost normal. If not, change of plans and maybe more time in Rio. Let’s see how things are as the date gets closer.

Turgid
07-11-21, 14:30
My favorite part of this whole vignette- it's like he is preparing to transcend the astral plane by partaking in a religious sacrament which requires a state of purification and ablution.

This is either a brilliant troll or someone who will definitely soon have one or many venereal diseases and a dick that looks like pulverized meat.....Man, this made me laugh harder than I've ever laughed on ISG. Yep, I can't wait for his trip report.

Vagabundo1
07-11-21, 15:56
Its going to be a long wait.

Post #1 kkk.


Man, this made me laugh harder than I've ever laughed on ISG. Yep, I can't wait for his trip report.

Vagabundo1
07-11-21, 20:04
https://www.hotelmalaga.com.br/


Haha not a troll post Vagabundo1, a real one. Care to elaborate a little on what Malaga is about I will be visiting Rio from the 6th till the 10th, happy to do some hardcore mongering with you LOL.

Vagabundo1
07-12-21, 05:15
If you really want to do what you outlined, then Malaga would be a good base.

You can't really expect 3 hours of sex 4 times a day at VM.

I mean, you could but the pricing is 120 for an hour. It will be better just to get some regulars, and to negotiate a better rate than just paying up 120 for an hour.

The other logistical option would be to stay at Hotel Atlantico Tower at Rua Visconde Inhuama 95, and to take a bus and or uber to VM. Staying at this hotel will also put you in walking distance of Clube 116 and Terma 31, and all the centro tier 2 or trash termas, which have the same quality, and the same girls in many cases as VM.


https://www.hotelmalaga.com.br/

Vagabundo1
07-12-21, 05:20
I had one of the worst experiences of my mongering life in the Blue house in Anil. A board member recommended this place, on the advice of a local.

The girl said she would do DFK and BBBJ, and then refused. I only got 20 minutes for 100 r because I wanted to limit the risk of just this BS. Maybe I was being a little cheap, and maybe that affected the session, but in any case, this place is a definite no go for any foreign mongers. She employed every time waster in the book.

Moreover, the selection was bad. There was one slim loira, 19, who said she would not DFK, and would not BBBJ. Maybe that was because I wouldn't buy her food, but screw it, I am not the red cross for broke Brazilian hookers. The rest of the stable was not very good. Much better at Paris, Perola, or 4 x 4.

It reinforces my usual routine which is to get numbers, and then make a market for pernoites. This procedure works well for me.

Absolutely do not go to this place.

Vagabundo1
07-12-21, 06:45
Well, since you are apparently legit, here is my input.

Stay at motel malaga, pernoite.

You need to figure out when the check in / out is.

You can take girls there and fuck them there, which is better.

Mosaico is best after 24 h, and you should look to session in mosaico two times a night, eg, 02 h, 04 h.

You should also add to the VM routine, the best prives in the Tijuca area, which are annes at sans pena metro, and massagemtijuca, which is across the street from Maracana stadium.

VM is 24/7/365.

The best times for VM are in the afternoon (see Sperto's posts on this). Post up at the northern entrance to VM at a bar, with a beverage, and just watch the girls come to work, and early evening, ditto. You would want to catch the girls BEFORE they get to their casa because once they get there to their casa, there is some tia (aunt), the universal name for the older, ugly jabba the hut (who once was a princess leia) looking semi human who is looking to take 50% of her earnings. You want to get her first, and she and you can do the math. The 80 r for a half hour in VM really means 40 for her, so 80 should be a reasonable rate for an hour with you.

You can PM me and maybe we can do some pussy patrols. I am with sperto on this subject, I find it safer to patrol alone or with the few who have proven they can be one of us. The highlanders of Rio de Janeiro. There can be only one.


Hey guys,

I needed some help from VM vets here. I'm a 35 year old crazy sex addict and have probably fucked over 500 women in my time many of them escorts and hookers around the world so I'm not afraid of visiting seedy / grimy areas. I look like a latino guy so don't stand out like a sore thumb. I love Bareback sex and touchwood haven't gotten anything yet. Recently got tested again and everything came back negative.

Anyways I wanted to go to VM on a 2 Day Rampage and what that essentially means is that.

A) I will only drink / eat light Soups and not eat any food. Just Water.

B) I get naturally very very hard but still will be using a 100 MG Viagra for ultimate pleasure maybe some molly if available.

C) I Want to fuck 4 women every day each for 3-4 hours (anal, bareback sex, rough rugged play).

D) This is my ideal Scenario..

Vagabundo1
07-12-21, 06:56
This is from the gparena site, by a monger named Dante.

Some notes:

- as I say, writing for its own sake is a good thing, worthwhile, art in our little corner of humanity, literature, which is itself redeeming, regardless of critics.

- 4 x 4, 54, and 502 are compared to a Bermuda triangle, with 502 being the only worthwhile. This makes me want to go check out 502. Though I really like the steam room and lawn chairs in 4 x 4, which make it worthwhile as a co-working space for me a few times a month, or more.

- this is a good way to gather real time intel from the locals. The amount of actionable intel on the ISG board is negligible. No one, myself included, posts their best girls because we, gringos, tend to get possessive, fall in love, etc; but the spirit of libertines is hey, go ahead and fuck my girl because she's not my girl, she's just a ho and vice versa. In this we all must resolve to be better Frenchmen.

http://gparena.net/td-show.php?t=78

Friday. A meeting with libertines at the Paladino restaurant, some tulips of draft beer, shots of Salinas, cod fritters and we decided to visit 502. Even before the pandemic. Invariably, there are few customers and girls. Very rarely are there women who can be worth the expense.

The 502 maintains the scenery, but it has fitted a huge pool table in the old smokehouse, a kind of slot machine, which is understandable considering the long period of low customer base. Today, I find the mood in this region that I called the new "Bermuda Triangle" a little depressing: Four for Four, 65 and 502. The only one that still maintains acceptable values ​8203;for the client is 502; the other two remain detached from reality, as if the managers lived in a Russian space station.

I drank some more, reaching drunken nirvana. Papo continued with other characters I encountered at the site. Settled in the smokehouse, forced to watch a very boring game of pool, I saw Letícia (I'm not sure of the name), a very beautiful Amazonian cabocla with a sculptural body. I called, sat down beside me, and did the preliminary interview. Transmitting a liberal profile, I approved of the girl and we went up to the alcove.

The great advantage of the 502 is the large cabins with shower. I took my shower while Leticia went out to get her supplies. Old people who abuse alcohol pay for it. My vision was no longer focused, my head was dizzy, Pikachu seemed to be awaiting cremation (never penetration).

Letícia came back, we kissed, we rubbed our bodies, I suckled her beautiful breasts, I put her on all fours and kissed that magazine cover ass as if it were a sacred image. The girl comes to suck me and shows her skill, sucks and masturbates me and I ejaculate my entire family tree. An honest and spontaneous sex, but I realized that the girl has a professional heart, immune to any affective involvement.

I paid the bill, went down to the night Rua the Alfândega and the night kept calling me for another drink. Of course I'm into it. The adventure continues. Wink.

Sexta-feira. Encontro com libertinos no restaurante Paladino, algumas tulipas de chope, doses de Salinas, bolinhos de bacalhau e decidimos visitar a 502. Andão vou mais esperando muito dos grandes e encalhados bordeis do Centro porque já me convenci de que a crise se instalou definitivamente neles, mesmo antes the pandemia. Invariavelmente, há poucos clientes e garotas. Muito raramente há mulheres que possam valer o gasto.

A 502 mantém o cenário, mas encaixou uma enorme mesa de sinuca no antigo fumódromo, uma espécie de caça-andíqueis, o que é compreensível se levarmos them conta o longo período de baixa de clientes. Hoje, considero um pouco deprimente o astral dessa região que denominei como o novo "Triângulo das Bermudas": Quatro por Quatro, 65 e 502. A única que ainda mantém valores aceitáveis para o cliente é a 502; as duas outras prosseguem alheias à realidade, como se os gestores vivessem them uma estação espacial russa.

Bebi um pouco mais, atingindo o nirvana ébrio. Papo prosseguiu com outros personagens que encontrei no local. Acomodado no fumódromo, obrigado a assistir a uma chatíssima partida de sinuca, avistei Letícia (não tenho certeza do nome), uma cabocla amazonense muito bonita e com um corpo escultural. Chamei, sentou-se ao meu lado e fiz a entrevista preliminar. Transmitindo um perfil liberal, aprovei a menina e subimos à alcova.

A grande vantagem the 502 está nas cabines amplas e com chuveiro. Tomei meu banho enquanto Letícia saiu para pegar seus apetrechos. Velhos que abusam no álcool pagam por isso. Minha visão andão tinha mais foco, a cabeça tonteava, Pikachu parecia estar aguardando a cremação (jamais a penetração).

Letícia retornou, nos beijamos, roçamos os corpos, mamei seus seios belíssimos, coloquei-a de quatro e beijei aquela bunda de capa de revista como se fosse uma imagem sagrada. A menina vem me chupar e mostra a sua habilidade, chupa e me masturba e eu ejaculo toda a minha árvore genealógica. Um sexo honesto e espontâneo, mas percebi que a menina tem um coração profissional, imune a qualquer envolvimento afetivo.

Paguei a conta, desci à noturna rua the Alfândega e a noite continuou me chamando para mais uma dose. É claro que eu tô afim. A aventura continua. Piscada.

Balboa
07-12-21, 17:58
VM is 24/7/365.

The best times for VM are in the afternoon (see Sperto's posts on this). Post up at the northern entrance to VM at a bar, with a beverage, and just watch the girls come to work, and early evening, ditto. You would want to catch the girls BEFORE they get to their casa because once they get there to their casa, there is some tia (aunt), the universal name for the older, ugly jabba the hut (who once was a princess leia) looking semi human who is looking to take 50% of her earnings. You want to get her first, and she and you can do the math. The 80 r for a half hour in VM really means 40 for her, so 80 should be a reasonable rate for an hour with you.
.Best time for VM is in the afternoon to find the girls sneaking out of the house to make some cash before mom or the marido gets home, LOL.

Night time is good as well for the girls who can stay out late, LOL.

As far as the girl making 50% at the bar / casa where they work, I'm pretty sure is incorrect.

The house gets the room fee, about 15-20 R, the girl gets the rest.

I've often taken girls from their bar to another that has better rooms, and just pay 15 R to the Tia to make her happy, and at at times Ive given the Tia nada, with no problem.

I enjoy all venues in Rio as well, from high to low.

VM, however, has been great for me over the years.

About 10 years now.

(And I thank Sperto for his posts from the past that got me going there many moons ago!

Vagabundo1
07-13-21, 03:05
Vagabundo took the 11 h20 bus from Av Gastao Senges 185 to Av Presidente Wilson 147, then patrolled over to TDM33/2106, where he banged a 19 yo with huge natural tits for a half hour, 80 r, BBBJ, 69, de quatro, good pop to clean out the palette from last night's debacle at blue house.

Vagabundo went back to meet with an English teaching mentor, then went on a non pro date. Since she hates Jorge Amado, and Vagabundo loves Jorge Amado, it likely is not a match, or perhaps opposites attract, but it is nice to have a real relationship with a intelligent woman.

Bravo reporting from 4 x 4 and 65 said that the talent was low, so, Vagabundo riding a city bus from Gavea to Botafogo diverted on the fly to Trattoria, which has gluten free pasta.

Normal Brazil friction aside (even rich world people who have been in Brazil for 50 years complain about the ridiculous bureaucratic mess), it was a fine day, which started with a box / swim workout by the pool, Hemingway style (see hemingwayhome.com for the site of Hemingway's boxing gym which was plastered over by his wench of a wife, fully justifying his going off to Spain to fuck hookers with Gellhorn. Speaking of Jewish chicks, Vagabundo fantasized about Nina Hartley, as an 18 year old, starring in a interracial Story of O with Sean Michaels in the role of the boyfriend, who, sick of his dependent girlfriend, takes her to a BDSM swingers fest, where all his friends can insist on plugging her asshole to their satisfaction before ploughing her ass to gaping, followed by even more debauched French libertine behavior.)

Turgid
07-13-21, 14:10
I had one of the worst experiences of my mongering life in the Blue house in Anil. A board member recommended this place, on the advice of a local.

The girl said she would do DFK and BBBJ, and then refused. I only got 20 minutes for 100 r because I wanted to limit the risk of just this BS. Maybe I was being a little cheap, and maybe that affected the session, but in any case, this place is a definite no go for any foreign mongers. She employed every time waster in the book.

Moreover, the selection was bad. There was one slim loira, 19, who said she would not DFK, and would not BBBJ. Maybe that was because I wouldn't buy her food, but screw it, I am not the red cross for broke Brazilian hookers. The rest of the stable was not very good. Much better at Paris, Perola, or 4 x 4.

It reinforces my usual routine which is to get numbers, and then make a market for pernoites. This procedure works well for me.

Absolutely do not go to this place.This is Brazil; you might get your socks blown off on another day.

Vagabundo1
07-14-21, 16:09
Waiting for Ana Foxxx. SBUX, Cinelandia.

Ana Foxxx is a 20 year old black, bem negra (very black) brazilian girl. We're on our 4th "date". The bang on Saturday was superb, so Vagabundo is eagerly awaiting her. We are linking up at the Starbucks, Metro Cinelandia.

This is a good step. As I say, Professionals study logistics, true insiders study personnel, amateurs study sex.

Logistically, since she lives in bem zona norte, training her broke (she said she doesn't have money for bus fare) ass to meet in centro is important, as it can save as much as 250 r for uber rides not even counting her fee (400) or eats (300) on our last date. Cheap Charlie Mungers save dimes so they have billions. Starbucks is important for the rich worlder as we are familiar with them, they have good internet, nice chairs, and good caffeine. For some of us, we are on a caffeine and **** diet (IE, some members are subject to drug tests because they are IT pros or Jackie Brown stewardesses on airlines, etc, or otherwise regulated, even if only by short term need to get shit done, and cannabis does not always help; **** does, it's just good exercise; two hours of a tight young **** a day will serve as physical training). Here in Centro, RJ, there is a SBUX at Cinelandia, and between Carioca and Uruguiana on RB). The other beauty of using SBUC Cinelandia as a checkpoint is that it is the middle of the pussy market which is the glory of RJ's 12 m souls, which is 6% of the 200 m super conservative hyper religious souls in Brazil. From cinelandia, you can walk down RB, at 156 you have a building of prives, at 185 ditto, including Bel Prazer, of course TDM33, and take a right at Buenos Aires, there is 4 x 4, left at alfandega, and there is 502. All the budget casas on the sperto maps, etc, are right there. Keep going North on RB, cross av Pres Vargas, and you are at Hotel Sao Francisco / Hotel Atlantico Tower, take a left on Strasse Marachel, and you head down to 116, from Hotel Atlantico Tower, and take the side street (alcatra Machado), and you are at T31. You, dear reader, the intrepid monger, should do this walk during the day, so you don't get all freaked at night, and it is second nature. At the intersection of RB and Vargas, take any city bus to VM -- just ask if the bus stops at Praca Bandeira. If you don't have a mask go to Alfandega, and buy one for 1.5 r, or a panama hat for 10 r. If you are a pro, you can find the casa bombeiro in that area, and pick up a few ballcaps with the medical universal patch (6 sides), and a Brazilian and Rio flag on either side, and a few velcro Brazil patches. Get a molle backpack with velcro patches, and be ready to swap patches to help not get fucked with. If you want to be really cool, bring a friend / cousin, and dress the same way, the way ready players 2 and 3 did. You are now in the dead center of RJ's pussy market, literally hundreds if not thousand of options for any kind of P4 P, and since geography defines history, it has been this way for tens of thousands and at least hundreds of years from when the first local vikings brought their bounty to the shores in the vicinity of the museum of the future on the harbor coast and bound gang banged her there. It's where the girls from 116 go for picnics, and it is where they ask to be dropped off when they leave Vagabundo's love shack high rise in Barra's coast.

Napoleon once said something like, " I studied my map".

You, the anon sex traveler secret agent, should study the attached map.

You will live south of Central, which is self explanatory enough. Your sex worker will live north of central. Download the images to your phone. You must be able to tell her to meet you at some point on that map. Eg,

See the images of whatsapp chats attached.

From metro cinelandia, it is a block walk to where there is a free bus to my condo, the famed Transamerica. Or one can take the metro, cheapest and fastest. Or one can take the 309 bus, which goes straight to the beach, which is where her volunteer photographer will want to go.

On the metro, one would want to go to metro jardim oceanico.

Monger on, gentlemen.

WyattEarp
07-14-21, 16:42
Vagabundo, I'm Portuguese. Portugal culture is far from libertine, we are much more alike Italians. Women have always ruled the households, behind the patriarch culture in the past, it was matriarch in some way.

Brazilian libertine culture is much more due to the African descent.Brazilian libertine culture developed from a confluence of various cultural and historical circumstances. The early Portuguese colonists were predominantly male and much unlike the English in North America they did not bring women to build families and communities. Many Native Brazilian peoples were considered polygamists. If you believe Wikipedia, the Tupi tribesmen offered young Tupi women to the Portuguese colonists to build relationships. Anyway, whether by Native offering or by way of coercion the Portuguese colonists had many indigenous "wives" who brought many Mameluco (Euro-Native American) children into the world. These children became the start of Brazilian miscegenation.

It's obvious that Brazilian-Portuguese libertinism, polygamy and miscegenation continued on with the introduction of African slaves. So basically the early Portuguese shagged anyone and everyone. It seems to have created a modern libertine culture with of course many absolving themselves of their wicked ways with Christianity.

Nounce
07-14-21, 17:08
Professionals study logisticsI am curious. Why not just stay somewhere closer to Centro where you can save time and transportation cost?


Cheap Charlie Mungers save dimes There is another perspective and it is opposite to this. Some people see time as money so they spend more to save time and use the time saved to make more money than the money spent and will come out ahead. They are paying for their own time, not the girl's time.

Vagabundo1
07-14-21, 17:21
This is a very important insight.

Obrigado.


Brazilian libertine culture developed from a confluence of various cultural and historical circumstances. The early Portuguese colonists were predominantly male and much unlike the English in North America they did not bring women to build families and communities. Many Native Brazilian peoples were considered polygamists. If you believe Wikipedia, the Tupi tribesmen offered young Tupi women to the Portuguese colonists to build relationships. Anyway, whether by Native offering or by way of coercion the Portuguese colonists had many indigenous "wives" who brought many Mameluco (Euro-Native American) children into the world. These children became the start of Brazilian miscegenation.

It's obvious that Brazilian-Portuguese libertinism, polygamy and miscegenation continued on with the introduction of African slaves. So basically the early Portuguese shagged anyone and everyone. It seems to have created a modern libertine culture with of course many absolving themselves of their wicked ways with Christianity.

Vagabundo1
07-14-21, 17:23
Since mobile prós can mint coin anywhere there is wi-fi sbux and 4 x 4 até optimal.


I am curious. Why not just stay somewhere closer to Centro where you can save time and transportation cost?

There is another perspective and it is opposite to this. Some people see time as money so they spend more to save time and use the time saved to make more money than the money spent and will come out ahead. They are paying for their own time, not the girl's time.

Exec Talent
07-14-21, 17:57
I am curious. Why not just stay somewhere closer to Centro where you can save time and transportation cost?

There is another perspective and it is opposite to this. Some people see time as money so they spend more to save time and use the time saved to make more money than the money spent and will come out ahead. They are paying for their own time, not the girl's time.Noted by myself and others. If you have limited time in Brazil you really need to plan ahead and think about the best way to use the limited time. Make your money at home. Take advantage of the 5+:1 exchange rate and don't worry so much about saving a few dollars. For many years I had a very tight international travel schedule which did not afford me the luxury of putting something off until tomorrow. That is you in Brazil. Make the best use of your time. Stay closest to the action. Focus on convenience not saving money on lodging. Hotels have people who speak English and Portuguese who can help you. AirBnB does not. Advice from first timers here is invaluable to you. Do plan one day where you do not give a crap if things don't work out but you can't afford more than one of those.

Vagabundo1
07-14-21, 18:26
Great fuck with Ana.

Shot Milk like Peter North ALL over her leg.

Two or three jets.

Held out from banging yesterday KKK.

Going to Beach to shoot surf videos.

Anaggie
07-14-21, 18:28
Waiting for Ana Foxxx. SBUX, Cinelandia.

Ana Foxxx is a 20 year old black, bem negra (very black) brazilian girl. We're on our 4th "date". The bang on Saturday was superb, so Vagabundo is eagerly awaiting her. We are linking up at the Starbucks

Logistically, since she lives in bem zona norte, training her broke (she said she doesn't have money for bus fare) ass to meet in centro is important, as it can save as much as 250 r for uber rides not even counting her fee (400) or eats (300) on our last date. Total cost the first time was 950. How is that any different than 4 x4? I understand that for further meetings, you could save the Uber and possible the food if you don't feed her but from the looks of it. If she is too broke for bus fare, she will probably need to be fed to keep her energy up.

I admire your logistics. I could never get to that point. I am all about convenience and ease.

Vagabundo1
07-14-21, 19:00
BBFS all I could cum 24 h v 1 h.

4 pops at my leisure.

At the Beach and my house.

Own toilet advantage.

But point taken.


Total cost the first time was 950. How is that any different than 4 x4? I understand that for further meetings, you could save the Uber and possible the food if you don't feed her but from the looks of it. If she is too broke for bus fare, she will probably need to be fed to keep her energy up.

I admire your logistics. I could never get to that point. I am all about convenience and ease.

Vagabundo1
07-14-21, 19:04
Sex on Beach v sex in a building. Priceless.


Total cost the first time was 950. How is that any different than 4 x4? I understand that for further meetings, you could save the Uber and possible the food if you don't feed her but from the looks of it. If she is too broke for bus fare, she will probably need to be fed to keep her energy up.

I admire your logistics. I could never get to that point. I am all about convenience and ease.

The Cane
07-14-21, 19:23
Total cost the first time was 950. How is that any different than 4 x4? I understand that for further meetings, you could save the Uber and possible the food if you don't feed her but from the looks of it. If she is too broke for bus fare, she will probably need to be fed to keep her energy up.

I admire your logistics. I could never get to that point. I am all about convenience and ease.As the man said, time is money!

Yossarian
07-14-21, 19:40
Waiting for Ana Foxxx. SBUX, Cinelandia.

Ana Foxxx is a 20 year old black, bem negra (very black) brazilian girl. We're on our 4th "date". The bang on Saturday was superb, so Vagabundo is eagerly awaiting her. We are linking up at the Starbucks, Metro Cinelandia.

This is a good step. As I say, Professionals study logistics, true insiders study personnel, amateurs study sex.

Logistically, since she lives in bem zona norte, training her broke (she said she doesn't have money for bus fare) ass to meet in centro is important, as it can save as much as 250 r for uber rides not even counting her fee (400) or eats (300) on our last date. Cheap Charlie Mungers save dimes so they have billions. Starbucks is important for the rich worlder as we are familiar with them, they have good internet, nice chairs, and good caffeine. For some of us, we are on a caffeine and **** diet (IE, some members are subject to drug tests because they are IT pros or Jackie Brown stewardesses on airlines, etc, or otherwise regulated, even if only by short term need to get shit done, and cannabis does not always help; **** does, it's just good exercise; two hours of a tight young **** a day will serve as physical training). Here in Centro, RJ, there is a SBUX at Cinelandia, and between Carioca and Uruguiana on RB). The other beauty of using SBUC Cinelandia as a checkpoint is that it is the middle of the pussy market which is the glory of RJ's 12 m souls, which is 6% of the 200 m super conservative hyper religious souls in Brazil. From cinelandia, you can walk down RB, at 156 you have a building of prives, at 185 ditto, including Bel Prazer, of course TDM33, and take a right at Buenos Aires, there is 4 x 4, left at alfandega, and there is 502. All the budget casas on the sperto maps, etc, are right there. Keep going North on RB, cross av Pres Vargas, and you are at Hotel Sao Francisco / Hotel Atlantico Tower, take a left on Strasse Marachel, and you head down to 116, from Hotel Atlantico Tower, and take the side street (alcatra Machado), and you are at T31. You, dear reader, the intrepid monger, should do this walk during the day, so you don't get all freaked at night, and it is second nature. At the intersection of RB and Vargas, take any city bus to VM -- just ask if the bus stops at Praca Bandeira. If you don't have a mask go to Alfandega, and buy one for 1.5 r, or a panama hat for 10 r. If you are a pro, you can find the casa bombeiro in that area, and pick up a few ballcaps with the medical universal patch (6 sides), and a Brazilian and Rio flag on either side, and a few velcro Brazil patches. Get a molle backpack with velcro patches, and be ready to swap patches to help not get fucked with. If you want to be really cool, bring a friend / cousin, and dress the same way, the way ready players 2 and 3 did. You are now in the dead center of RJ's pussy market, literally hundreds if not thousand of options for any kind of P4 P, and since geography defines history, it has been this way for tens of thousands and at least hundreds of years from when the first local vikings brought their bounty to the shores in the vicinity of the museum of the future on the harbor coast and bound gang banged her there. It's where the girls from 116 go for picnics, and it is where they ask to be dropped off when they leave Vagabundo's love shack high rise in Barra's coast.

Napoleon once said something like, " I studied my map".

You, the anon sex traveler secret agent, should study the attached map.

You will live south of Central, which is self explanatory enough. Your sex worker will live north of central. Download the images to your phone. You must be able to tell her to meet you at some point on that map. Eg,

See the images of whatsapp chats attached.

From metro cinelandia, it is a block walk to where there is a free bus to my condo, the famed Transamerica. Or one can take the metro, cheapest and fastest. Or one can take the 309 bus, which goes straight to the beach, which is where her volunteer photographer will want to go.

On the metro, one would want to go to metro jardim oceanico.

Monger on, gentlemen.I had no idea all of that is THAT close to the Cinelândia Starbucks. I've been there a couple of times with different non-pro / semi-pro each time. I will certainly have to take the daytime stroll you just outlined in this post. Thanks again for the solid gold you post.

MichaelSchoefs
07-14-21, 19:41
Hello,

I remember several bars that were open near praca do Lido at Copa. Bars with no entry fee, expensive beers (6 dollars) and many girls dancing on funk and even stripping. I find it strange that there are (almost) no reviews of them here, since they exist because of / from tourist at Copa. Only Mabs (more resto without the dancing) and Dolce Vita are sometimes mentioned. Who knows the club Casablanca? I had great fun there during my last and only visit in 2015. If you wanted to take a girl home you had to pay the club also money though (I think 60 dollars). I guess it was the same as Balcony (closed permanently). Any news about these places?

I will only be in Rio for 1 evening. Monday evening. So I guess I will book a friendly hotel near these clubs around praca do lido. Someone said Hotel Astoria is girl friendly (few pages back) Can anyone confirm. Or give me a hotel in that area?. Since indeed Mosaico is only good from midnight and I have to leave at 8 in the morning it will (unfortunately) not for me. (too far from copa). Thanks for the info. I will send a 5 pages report on my 1 evening-.

Nounce
07-14-21, 20:43
Total cost the first time was 950. How is that any different than 4 x4? My understanding is it is apple and orange because they are not for the same amount of time and sex. The cost of food will likely be the same if the time for both are the same.

Rio Bob
07-14-21, 22:27
Hello,

I remember several bars that were open near praca do Lido at Copa. Bars with no entry fee, expensive beers (6 dollars) and many girls dancing on funk and even stripping. I find it strange that there are (almost) no reviews of them here, since they exist because of / from tourist at Copa. Only Mabs (more resto without the dancing) and Dolce Vita are sometimes mentioned. Who knows the club Casablanca? I had great fun there during my last and only visit in 2015. If you wanted to take a girl home you had to pay the club also money though (I think 60 dollars). I guess it was the same as Balcony (closed permanently). Any news about these places?

I will only be in Rio for 1 evening. Monday evening. So I guess I will book a friendly hotel near these clubs around praca do lido. Someone said Hotel Astoria is girl friendly (few pages back) Can anyone confirm. Or give me a hotel in that area?. Since indeed Mosaico is only good from midnight and I have to leave at 8 in the morning it will (unfortunately) not for me. (too far from copa). Thanks for the info. I will send a 5 pages report on my 1 evening-.I was in Rio this past May and dolce vita was closed Monday and Tuesday. I don't know about the other clubs you mention. You have to imagine Monday is generally a slow day. I'd pick another strategy like online escorts.

Ptgbac
07-14-21, 22:30
Brazilian libertine culture developed from a confluence of various cultural and historical circumstances. The early Portuguese colonists were predominantly male and much unlike the English in North America they did not bring women to build families and communities. Many Native Brazilian peoples were considered polygamists. If you believe Wikipedia, the Tupi tribesmen offered young Tupi women to the Portuguese colonists to build relationships. Anyway, whether by Native offering or by way of coercion the Portuguese colonists had many indigenous "wives" who brought many Mameluco (Euro-Native American) children into the world. These children became the start of Brazilian miscegenation.

It's obvious that Brazilian-Portuguese libertinism, polygamy and miscegenation continued on with the introduction of African slaves. So basically the early Portuguese shagged anyone and everyone. It seems to have created a modern libertine culture with of course many absolving themselves of their wicked ways with Christianity.You were forgetting the African slaves.

Vagabundo1
07-14-21, 23:06
Hence, Botafogo is the best hood.

But barra is best if you live here.

Or keep a hotel room at hotel sao Francisco / hotel Atlántico tower.

For that matter, I make each into a VFW and new Swiss Embassy haha.


Noted by myself and others. If you have limited time in Brazil you really need to plan ahead and think about the best way to use the limited time. Make your money at home. Take advantage of the 5+:1 exchange rate and don't worry so much about saving a few dollars. For many years I had a very tight international travel schedule which did not afford me the luxury of putting something off until tomorrow. That is you in Brazil. Make the best use of your time. Stay closest to the action. Focus on convenience not saving money on lodging. Hotels have people who speak English and Portuguese who can help you. AirBnB does not. Advice from first timers here is invaluable to you. Do plan one day where you do not give a crap if things don't work out but you can't afford more than one of those.

Vagabundo1
07-15-21, 02:27
We made it to minute 39 of Rocco's latest with the negra from Kenya Zawaadi Ana Foxxxx, paying 400 for pernoite, plus eats, smokes.

My doc came over for the cannabis prescription since he is heading to POA for a week, I may go too.

Great afternoon at the beach, swam, ate -- the sardines are recommended, there's a aipim, which is good. A whole fried fish.

We fucked for an hour in the afternoon before the beach.

2 hours of sex a day is what my doctor says I should get in exercise.

Will be getting in my daily two hours of sexo in the morning too, now that I am the GanjaCoffee CannabisCaffeine King.

Vagabundo1
07-15-21, 03:07
Some wanker says I shouldn't promote Botafogo. Just for that, Sperto maps is moving into Botafogo to identify all the MILF cocksucker working girls.

Vagabundo is now Botafogo.

Re: What am I going to do with you?

I am going to change my user name to botafogo.

And get to 12,000 posts.

Just to inundate your GF with gringo mongers who come for the suruba com pretos at the Panda Motel.

Anaggie
07-15-21, 03:57
BBFS all I could cum 24 h v 1 h.

4 pops at my leisure.

At the Beach and my house.

Own toilet advantage.

But point taken.Pretty reasonable for 24 hrs. These are the type of arrangements I try to set up in SP so that it is "on demand" whenever the mood strikes. I don't feel like going on the hunt whenever the mood strikes. I like the hunt a lot but I love savoring the kill for a few days.

Vagabundo1
07-15-21, 04:10
The beach in a word.

The beach is why I live in barra.


I am curious. Why not just stay somewhere closer to Centro where you can save time and transportation cost?

There is another perspective and it is opposite to this. Some people see time as money so they spend more to save time and use the time saved to make more money than the money spent and will come out ahead. They are paying for their own time, not the girl's time.

Vagabundo1
07-15-21, 04:48
Senhor Nounce,

Precisely good sir. I am winding down from 2 hours of sex with Ana Zawaaadi Foxxx, who has Zawaadi's body as a 20 year old. And two hours of smoking weed, having dinner, eating, and taking pictures at the beach, watching Dom, and generally being happy with my woman, who is mistaken for African by the African beach vendors who come up and ask if she is from Afrika, to which I say, thanks for the compliment, can I get your number for when I need a asset to take care of the lost tribe of Israel in Africa for further benefit to Lugano, Switzerland, and the Union Bank of Switzerland, LTDA, Brazil.

Sometimes a man like this cracker would write words on a page to get negras to suck his cock, which I can totally relate to. Those who seek precision here are not smoking enough Hash.

You get a shiver in the dark.

It's a raining in the park but meantime-.

South of the river you stop and you hold everything.

A band is blowing Dixie, double four time.

You feel alright when you hear the music ring.

Well now you step inside but you don't see too many faces.

Coming in out of the rain they hear the jazz go down.

Competition in other places.

Uh but the horns they blowin' that sound.

Way on down south.

Way on down south.

London town.

You check out guitar George, he knows-all the chords.

Mind, it's strictly rhythm he doesn't want to make it cry or sing.

They said an old guitar is all, he can afford.

When he gets up under the lights to play his thing.

And Harry doesn't mind, if he doesn't, make the scene.

He's got a daytime job, he's doing alright.

He can play the Honky Tonk like anything.

Savin' it up, for Friday night.

With the Sultans.

We're the Sultans of Swing.

Then a crowd a boys they're a foolin' around in the corner.

Drunk and dressed in their best brown baggies and their platform soles.

They don't give a damn about any trumpet playin' band.

It ain't what they call Rock and Roll.

And the Sultans.

Yeah, the Sultans, they play Creole.

Creole.

And then the man he steps right up to the microphone.

And says at last just as the time bell rings.

"Goodnight, now it's time to go home".

Then he makes it fast with one more thing.

"We are the Sultans.

We are the Sultans of Swing".


My understanding is it is apple and orange because they are not for the same amount of time and sex. The cost of food will likely be the same if the time for both are the same.

Xpartan
07-15-21, 05:22
Hello,

I remember several bars that were open near praca do Lido at Copa. Bars with no entry fee, expensive beers (6 dollars) and many girls dancing on funk and even stripping. I find it strange that there are (almost) no reviews of them here, since they exist because of / from tourist at Copa. Only Mabs (more resto without the dancing) and Dolce Vita are sometimes mentioned. Who knows the club Casablanca? I had great fun there during my last and only visit in 2015. If you wanted to take a girl home you had to pay the club also money though (I think 60 dollars). I guess it was the same as Balcony (closed permanently). Any news about these places?

I will only be in Rio for 1 evening. Monday evening. So I guess I will book a friendly hotel near these clubs around praca do lido. Someone said Hotel Astoria is girl friendly (few pages back) Can anyone confirm. Or give me a hotel in that area?. Since indeed Mosaico is only good from midnight and I have to leave at 8 in the morning it will (unfortunately) not for me. (too far from copa). Thanks for the info. I will send a 5 pages report on my 1 evening-.But why even go to Copa? Mabs, Dolce Vita and other Copa clubs are always hit and miss. What if you don't find anyone to your liking? And why even bother with Zona Sul for one night? Just stay in Centro and explore the monger circuit (4 x4, 502, Manhattan, for more, read the Vagabundo's short Centro guide below). Honestly, for one night in Rio I would probably have a nice dinner, then Uber to 4 x4 for a few drinks, sauna and a couple of girls. But then I'm lazy, LOL.

Vagabundo1
07-15-21, 12:38
The truth lands with a thud and needs no introduction.


You were forgetting the African slaves.

WyattEarp
07-15-21, 13:47
But why even go to Copa? Mabs, Dolce Vita and other Copa clubs are always hit and miss. What if you don't find anyone to your liking? And why even bother with Zona Sul for one night? Just stay in Centro and explore the monger circuit (4 x4, 502, Manhattan, for more, read the Vagabundo's short Centro guide below). Honestly, for one night in Rio I would probably have a nice dinner, then Uber to 4 x4 for a few drinks, sauna and a couple of girls. But then I'm lazy, LOL.I agree. I'm not sure there is really time for dinner, but I think your point is with one night hit termas 4 x 4 and some of the Centro termas scene. Mabs and Dolce Vita aren't really a great idea if you only have one night and you want to make it count.

Walk around in the afternoon, have a late lunch (Confeitaria Colombo perhaps) and meander over to the termas.

HoyaDay
07-15-21, 16:11
Anybody on the ground know what the general consensus is with the delta variant. Are the news outlets creating any panic for another lockdown. I was looking forward to visiting in September but news around the world is that delta variant is spreading widely in South America. Peru is starting another lockdown apparently. Hope nothing changes.

WyattEarp
07-15-21, 17:30
You were forgetting the African slaves.Except I specifically mention African slaves in my second paragraph on the Brazilian-Portuguese libertine ways.

I'm sure many here also know the original Paulistas were half Portuguese, half Native. The original Paulista men were some bad dudes who roamed the interior hunting for Native slaves and likely fucked a bunch too.

WyattEarp
07-15-21, 17:31
The truth lands with a thud and needs no introduction.Do you read or do you just write?

Nordico
07-15-21, 19:45
Anybody on the ground know what the general consensus is with the delta variant. Are the news outlets creating any panic for another lockdown. I was looking forward to visiting in September but news around the world is that delta variant is spreading widely in South America. Peru is starting another lockdown apparently. Hope nothing changes.Only few cases in Rio, so far, but as we know it can spread very fast. https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2021/07/prefeitura-do-rio-confirma-circulacao-da-variante-delta-e-monitora-40-pessoas.shtml.

Vagabundo1
07-15-21, 19:54
Dear senhor Wyattearp.

MEU culpa senhor.

I skim, fuck, smoke, write, sometimes I cum inside.

I am a flawed multitasker pq nao sou chato.

BoldNineK
07-16-21, 06:14
Vagabundo motel Malaga overnight seems like a perfect spot only 10 minutes walk from mosaic club. Thank you my virtual legendary friend.

I'll be I Rio from 5th till 12th but can monger from 10th till 12th. Other days I want to enjoy the city go hang gliding, sky diving and do all the touristy stuff. Once my tank is completely drained on the 12th I'll head over to ilha grande for 2 days to relax and recharge then will monger hardcore for 3 days in São Paulo.

I'll DM you if you want to hang out together on 10th and 11th, you can feel totally comfortable with me mongering haha, fuck ID be down for girl swaps.

I've actually been talking to a 19 year old in SA and she wants to stay overnight from 11 pm till 7 am. She's beautiful to say the least and only asked for 600 which I thought was and absolutely steal LOL.

Vagabundo1
07-16-21, 17:16
You may have to upgrade your membership to DM, but sure. It is worth it.

My standards are low. Unless you're a member of the Spanish inquisition looking to castrate unfaithful men for fornication, I will be a good corporal wingman for any visiting general. Haha.


I'll DM you if you want to hang out together on 10th and 11th, you can feel totally comfortable with me mongering haha, fuck ID be down for girl swaps.

Xpartan
07-17-21, 08:12
I'll be I Rio from 5th till 12th but can monger from 10th till 12th. Other days I want to enjoy the city go hang gliding, sky diving and do all the touristy stuff. Once my tank is completely drained on the 12th I'll head over to ilha grande for 2 days to relax and recharge then will monger hardcore for 3 days in So Paulo.A few thoughts.

1. It's winter in Rio. The days are short, it probably gets dark around 6 pm or so, which means the only "touristy stuff" you'll get to do after that is drinking or watching TV. Why not monger instead?

2. Going to Ilha Grande for 2 days is nothing short of masochism, IMHO. It's at least 4. 5-5 hour transfer one way (don't believe BS-ers who promise to get you there in 2 hours). You'll be rushed around and won't see anything.

Conclusion:

You're making the same mistakes I've often made in my travels trying to squeeze as many experiences as possible in a very limited time-frame. You would enjoy it much better if you spent your 10-day vacation in Rio and IG rather than squeezing in Sampa, which you should approach as a separate project (I did 3 days in SP once, and it wasn't nearly enough).

Vagabundo1
07-17-21, 12:13
Senhor Xpartan is correct on both counts.

I once went to christo because some ******* brokedick could not get it up travel buddy wanted to get a picture next to christ. I wished I had fucked the ass of the hottest morena I met in mosaico instead for another 2 hours in Malaga.

For that amount of time, come to barra posto 1, and take a girl jetski at praia dos amadors. It is a 30 minute cab ride. Take pictures of her ass in the sun, preferably with a butt plug, and post her number at the bottom of her picture so we can decide whether to plough her ass too.

Keeping it classy, Rio.


A few thoughts.

1. It's winter in Rio. The days are short, it probably gets dark around 6 pm or so, which means the only "touristy stuff" you'll get to do after that is drinking or watching TV. Why not monger instead?

2. Going to Ilha Grande for 2 days is nothing short of masochism, IMHO. It's at least 4. 5-5 hour transfer one way (don't believe BS-ers who promise to get you there in 2 hours). You'll be rushed around and won't see anything.

Conclusion:

You're making the same mistakes I've often made in my travels trying to squeeze as many experiences as possible in a very limited time-frame. You would enjoy it much better if you spent your 10-day vacation in Rio and IG rather than squeezing in Sampa, which you should approach as a separate project (I did 3 days in SP once, and it wasn't nearly enough).

Bravo
07-17-21, 12:34
Being in my 50's now, so I finally decided to try some ED pills to help with my performance issues (No gym for 1. 5 years and 45 pounds of covid weight) has really fucked up my Stroke! I am finally back in the gym and trying to eat healthy, but after 1 month of fucking these young garotas, I am slowly losing my sex drive (And wearing condoms doesn't fucking help either).

I bought the generic versions of Viagra and Cialis, I really didn't notice a major difference between the two. Being relatively new to ED pills (I took a whole viagra pill when I was like 31 and it was a nightmare. After I took the pill I had a massive headache and a brick for a dick! This time, I cut the pill into 4 pieces and swallowed 1/4th. For me, 1/4th of a pill works great. I am at full mast but its not Whiskey dick where I fuck for hours and can never bust a nut.

One thing I did notice (And it happened at the exact wrong fucking time) was that I could not have a full stomach either before or after I took the pill. I had a super hot girl with a crazy ass in my bed and couldn't perform last night. (I told her it was because I was drunk. LOL) Taking the pill with a full stomach just neutralized the effect.

Flip side: I don't know if this is supposed to happen but. I notice when I take the pill on an empty stomach, it works great, but in addition, it works as an appetite suppressor! I literally didn't eat for almost 2 days straight because I had absolutely no desire to consume anything. I only ate because I got nervous and didn't want a Lamar Odom episode, so I had a small sandwich and a juice.

Hopefully, once I get back into shape and lose the weight, I won't have to use the pills at all. But its nice to know that if I need a little "Help" I know what to take and how to take it in order to have the desired effect. Anyone know if you need a prescription from a doctor to bring the pills back to America?

Vagabundo1
07-17-21, 12:53
I've never had trouble. But then I travel on a Swiss diplomatic passport.


Being in my 50's now, so I finally decided to try some ED pills to help with my performance issues (No gym for 1. 5 years and 45 pounds of covid weight) has really fucked up my Stroke! I am finally back in the gym and trying to eat healthy, but after 1 month of fucking these young garotas, I am slowly losing my sex drive (And wearing condoms doesn't fucking help either).

I bought the generic versions of Viagra and Cialis, I really didn't notice a major difference between the two. Being relatively new to ED pills (I took a whole viagra pill when I was like 31 and it was a nightmare. After I took the pill I had a massive headache and a brick for a dick! This time, I cut the pill into 4 pieces and swallowed 1/4th. For me, 1/4th of a pill works great. I am at full mast but its not Whiskey dick where I fuck for hours and can never bust a nut.

One thing I did notice (And it happened at the exact wrong fucking time) was that I could not have a full stomach either before or after I took the pill. I had a super hot girl with a crazy ass in my bed and couldn't perform last night. (I told her it was because I was drunk. LOL) Taking the pill with a full stomach just neutralized the effect.

Mr Enternational
07-17-21, 14:08
Going to Ilha Grande for 2 days is nothing short of masochism, IMHO. It's at least 4. 5-5 hour transfer one way (don't believe BS-ers who promise to get you there in 2 hours).From the picture you can see that Uber got me from Copacabana to the port in Conceicao in 2 hours and 23 minutes. Then from there the boat is 30 minutes at most and they leave every hour on the hour. Relaxing there during the winter I am not sure of though.

Mangera
07-17-21, 15:25
Being in my 50's now, so I finally decided to try some ED pills to help with my performance issues (No gym for 1. 5 years and 45 pounds of covid weight) has really fucked up my Stroke! I am finally back in the gym and trying to eat healthy, but after 1 month of fucking these young garotas, I am slowly losing my sex drive (And wearing condoms doesn't fucking help either).

I bought the generic versions of Viagra and Cialis, I really didn't notice a major difference between the two. Being relatively new to ED pills (I took a whole viagra pill when I was like 31 and it was a nightmare. After I took the pill I had a massive headache and a brick for a dick! This time, I cut the pill into 4 pieces and swallowed 1/4th. For me, 1/4th of a pill works great. I am at full mast but its not Whiskey dick where I fuck for hours and can never bust a nut.

One thing I did notice (And it happened at the exact wrong fucking time) was that I could not have a full stomach either before or after I took the pill. I had a super hot girl with a crazy ass in my bed and couldn't perform last night. (I told her it was because I was drunk. LOL) Taking the pill with a full stomach just neutralized the effect.

Flip side: I don't know if this is supposed to happen but. I notice when I take the pill on an empty stomach, it works great, but in addition, it works as an appetite suppressor! I literally didn't eat for almost 2 days straight because I had absolutely no desire to consume anything. I only ate because I got nervous and didn't want a Lamar Odom episode, so I had a small sandwich and a juice.

Hopefully, once I get back into shape and lose the weight, I won't have to use the pills at all. But its nice to know that if I need a little "Help" I know what to take and how to take it in order to have the desired effect. Anyone know if you need a prescription from a doctor to bring the pills back to America?Been doing that with 50 MG generic viagra for the last couple of years, works great. A few weeks ago, I went to the drug store and they ran out of the generic viagra, so they offered me a cialus. I had never taken one before in my life. However, I had to get something because time limitations. So I went for it. Performance was fine during the next couple of days. However, I only had a beer or two with dinner after my play sessions, and I would get a headache. I never ever get headaches, not even with the generic viagra. So for me, best to stick with what works. Just because my body reacted in this manner, it does not apply to everyone else. So I suggest trial and error method to see what works best. 4 pieces formula works best for me.

WyattEarp
07-17-21, 15:33
..........Being relatively new to ED pills (I took a whole viagra pill when I was like 31 and it was a nightmare. After I took the pill I had a massive headache and a brick for a dick! This time, I cut the pill into 4 pieces and swallowed 1/4th. For me, 1/4th of a pill works great. I am at full mast but its not Whiskey dick where I fuck for hours and can never bust a nut.

One thing I did notice (And it happened at the exact wrong fucking time) was that I could not have a full stomach either before or after I took the pill. I had a super hot girl with a crazy ass in my bed and couldn't perform last night. (I told her it was because I was drunk. LOL) Taking the pill with a full stomach just neutralized the effect.

Flip side: I don't know if this is supposed to happen but. I notice when I take the pill on an empty stomach, it works great, but in addition, it works as an appetite suppressor! I literally didn't eat for almost 2 days straight because I had absolutely no desire to consume anything. I only ate because I got nervous and didn't want a Lamar Odom episode, so I had a small sandwich and a juice.

Hopefully, once I get back into shape and lose the weight, I won't have to use the pills at all. But its nice to know that if I need a little "Help" I know what to take and how to take it in order to have the desired effect. Anyone know if you need a prescription from a doctor to bring the pills back to America?I think it's fairly common to find Viagra and Levitra work better on an empty stomach. Headaches can occur if the dose is too high. I believe 25 and 50 MG pills aren't much cheaper than 100 MG pills. So men have been buying those little pill slicers at the pharmacy for years.

I find my appetite is suppressed for several hours, but never for days. When traveling, I always try to eat two meals. Dinner is usually much before I go into action. Interestingly, there seems to be some guy on the RJ or SP thread advocating fasting for better sex. I never heard that before, but certainly take Vitamin V and L on an empty stomach. Also, I cannot drink too much with ED meds. I kind of chill at the bars and termas at night with one or two drinks.

By the way, there is a thread called Viagra under Special Interests which leads to all ED meds discussions. This topic is explored in greater detail there.

Phate
07-17-21, 17:44
Been doing that with 50 MG generic viagra for the last couple of years, works great. A few weeks ago, I went to the drug store and they ran out of the generic viagra, so they offered me a cialus.What drugstore? You don't need a medical prescription?

DandyMan51
07-17-21, 18:13
What drugstore? You don't need a medical prescription?No you don't. I personally prefer using Rappi for this kind of stuff. That way I don't have to worry about awkwardly discussing with a pharmacist in a store.

Mr Enternational
07-17-21, 19:35
No you don't. I personally prefer using Rappi for this kind of stuff. That way I don't have to worry about awkwardly discussing with a pharmacist in a store.For them it is as awkward as breathing. They discuss it everyday.

TShelby
07-17-21, 21:06
What would be the best option to buy a prepaid SIM card with internet for 10 days? I understand that there will be at Rio Airport but I would prefer to know your opinions, thanks as always!

Bearsi
07-17-21, 23:12
Hey guys.

Just checking in to do some proper pre-check of things before I bite the bullet and go to Brazil again in September!

Is a vaccine required to enter or leave the country? I know you need a negative PCR test before and after.

I hear the days are shorter in September as the sun goes down at 6 pm or so. I'll be bring a jacket since I hear it can get a bit cold. I'll be doing lots of reports when I touch down and hit up every place I can and bring back reports! Also I know there are some posters in the area and wouldn't mind patrolling with some veterans!

Nordico
07-17-21, 23:51
Hey guys.

Just checking in to do some proper pre-check of things before I bite the bullet and go to Brazil again in September!

Is a vaccine required to enter or leave the country? I know you need a negative PCR test before and after.

I hear the days are shorter in September as the sun goes down at 6 pm or so. I'll be bring a jacket since I hear it can get a bit cold. I'll be doing lots of reports when I touch down and hit up every place I can and bring back reports! Also I know there are some posters in the area and wouldn't mind patrolling with some veterans!This is a good place for travel info https://www.traveldoc.aero/.

Steve 9696
07-18-21, 00:28
I think it's fairly common to find Viagra and Levitra work better on an empty stomach. Headaches can occur if the dose is too high. I believe 25 and 50 MG pills aren't much cheaper than 100 MG pills. So men have been buying those little pill slicers at the pharmacy for years.

I find my appetite is suppressed for several hours, but never for days. When traveling, I always try to eat two meals. Dinner is usually much before I go into action. Interestingly, there seems to be some guy on the RJ or SP thread advocating fasting for better sex. I never heard that before, but certainly take Vitamin V and L on an empty stomach. Also, I cannot drink too much with ED meds. I kind of chill at the bars and termas at night with one or two drinks.

By the way, there is a thread called Viagra under Special Interests which leads to all ED meds discussions. This topic is explored in greater detail there.Revatio is a great alternative. Same medicine as Viagra but usually prescribed for heart in 20 MG tablets. They are little white pills that look like coffee sweeter we used to use years ago. Great thing is at 20 MG you can customize your dose. 50 MG is common. So I do 40 or 60 depending. Or 40 with a 20 booster later. Works great.

I got mine from Lemonaid in the US. Online doctor consult and they send them out. Super easy. Recommend.

Bearsi
07-18-21, 00:30
This is a good place for travel info https://www.traveldoc.aero/.Thanks! This is a very good and comprehensive site, loads of info!

Brigado!

Vagabundo1
07-18-21, 00:34
I went to Praia marambaia, one beach after grumari.

It is beautiful.

I am going to ihla grande with Lara Selena (see photo thread) on quarta feira.

Waiting for her to come sit on my face now. And may be to scare up a dupla or two. I've been banging her for 6 years.


From the picture you can see that Uber got me from Copacabana to the port in Conceicao in 2 hours and 23 minutes. Then from there the boat is 30 minutes at most and they leave every hour on the hour. Relaxing there during the winter I am not sure of though.

Xpartan
07-18-21, 03:53
From the picture you can see that Uber got me from Copacabana to the port in Conceicao in 2 hours and 23 minutes. Then from there the boat is 30 minutes at most and they leave every hour on the hour. Relaxing there during the winter I am not sure of though.In a private car, yeah sure. You can make it in 3 hours IF there is no traffic and you get to the port right by the departure time and don't miss the boat (because if you do, you'll wait for another hour as you yourself mentioned). Best case scenario, you'll get there under 3 hours. Not the cheapest option, though. IIRC, a ride and a boat cost us about $90 back in 2020. On the way back to Rio, though, the chance is you will get into traffic. Too much trouble for a 2-day outing, IMHO.

As to winter weather, my last year trip to IG in Feb coincided with daily terrestrial downpours, so you never know.

Jingo10
07-18-21, 06:13
Has anyone from the UK managed to travel to Brazil recently? Currently it looks like we are prohibited from traveling by Brazil but I've heard about people traveling via Portugal and not having any issues.

TuneFor
07-18-21, 19:58
Has anyone from the UK managed to travel to Brazil recently? Currently it looks like we are prohibited from traveling by Brazil but I've heard about people traveling via Portugal and not having any issues.I was in UK for 4 months and then within 14 days went to Brazil.

Just don't declare in app that you need to fill up online before getting boarding pass that you have been in UK within 14 days.

It is all bollocks anyway these Covid rules made for sheep and wana be China people.

Mangera
07-18-21, 21:38
What drugstore? You don't need a medical prescription?Any drug store, including Pacheco.

Vagabundo1
07-19-21, 01:58
I linked up with Palcon and Dandyman51 at Trattoria, which is excellent as always.

I suggested we go to VM to get oriented. This was 18 h. We took an uber, though I was willing to take the 457 bus from Copa.

We walked through VM from SouthEast to NorthWest, and found nothing of immediate interest.

My plan was to orient the patrol, mark targets, and circle back for further patrols. We walked past Mosaico. We walked to Hotel Canario. We walked northwest out of VM Triangle and patrolled from street walkers, and found some, but none good enough.

We came back to VM at 20 h, and settled in at Casa 52, the best casa, with a good overwatch of the street. One wingman found a loira (blond) of good enough quality -- a 7 or so -- and sessioned with her. I went in and found a usual suspect, and banged her. The other wingman also found a loira of good enough quality at 52, and sessioned. We all having busted a nut, we drank Stella for a few minutes more before taking an uber back to copa / barra to sleep well.

EverythingBlue
07-19-21, 01:59
I've read 100 pages on the SP and almost the same on the RJ reports but haven't found my answers yet, hoping someone can chime in on your monger operating procedures when visiting a terapias or contacting a Garota found online through WhatsApp.

1) I noticed many terapias and Clinicas list different services on their websites, but none say full service. If I don't care about a massage, how do you approach the conversation about wanting full service only? I speak no Portuguese so I'm trying to work this out in my mind for when I walk in I feel less stupid if they don't offer such services LOL. Example:

http://copaterapias.com.br/services/

I don't see full service. All other options seem pricey BTW, and no full service?

2) What is your normal message structure when reaching out to a garota found online or Twitter? If you don't speak Portuguese, do you message them in English or Portuguese but using Google translate? Do you let them know you speak little to no Portuguese? I'm curious about this, here in the States I normally send one message, polite but straight to the point asking availability, duration, incall or outcall, and maybe cost if not known or posted. 95% of the time I get a fast response. Curious what others send through WhatsApp.

Vagabundo1
07-19-21, 02:02
Cafe Marambaia is worth the trip. The food is awesome, especially paella -- best of my life.

View of Ihla Grande and beach is awesome.

There are several pousadas, and a beach club. Even if you do not have time for a local trip to Ihla Grande or Buzios, a trip to Marambaia with a girl is a good move. Good houses can be rented for 1300 r per month. It is far away, and a dedicated uber driver will be necessary. For the Senhor Spartan's there is a bus. Truly, this is off the grid. You would have to be a real vagabundo to make it here.

This town is undiscovered, and worth a trip.


I went to Praia marambaia, one beach after grumari.

It is beautiful.

I am going to ihla grande with Lara Selena (see photo thread) on quarta feira.

Waiting for her to come sit on my face now. And may be to scare up a dupla or two. I've been banging her for 6 years.

Vagabundo1
07-19-21, 02:03
At Central, you can buy a registered SIM chip for 12 r. I recommend ViVo as it has the best internet. Recharge it at kiosks.


What would be the best option to buy a prepaid SIM card with internet for 10 days? I understand that there will be at Rio Airport but I would prefer to know your opinions, thanks as always!

Vagabundo1
07-19-21, 03:37
Mosaico was just getting fired up at 21 h. So, on Sundays, the optimal time to get to VM is 20 h or later, and for Mosaico, 22 h or later. Elisa Sanches frequents / ed Mosaico according to the locals. Why? Because that's where locals, even porn stars, go to fuck locals. Eliza Sanches, famous though she is, is far from the top girl at Mosaico.

Vagabundo1
07-19-21, 20:10
CPF. Cost Per Fuck.

The CPF at VM is 75 reais per half hour, or 120 r per hour, pretty much the same as centro prives, like sexy hot, IE, TDM33/3206, where I went with Jimmy Boy and another rich world monger we met at belprazer today. I sessioned with Stephanie, and one wingman did Karina and Stephanie.


I linked up with Palcon and Dandyman51 at Trattoria, which is excellent as always.

I suggested we go to VM to get oriented. This was 18 h. We took an uber, though I was willing to take the 457 bus from Copa.

We walked through VM from SouthEast to NorthWest, and found nothing of immediate interest.

My plan was to orient the patrol, mark targets, and circle back for further patrols. We walked past Mosaico. We walked to Hotel Canario. We walked northwest out of VM Triangle and patrolled from street walkers, and found some, but none good enough..

Nordico
07-19-21, 21:21
2) What is your normal message structure when reaching out to a garota found online or Twitter? If you don't speak Portuguese, do you message them in English or Portuguese but using Google translate? Do you let them know you speak little to no Portuguese? I'm curious about this, here in the States I normally send one message, polite but straight to the point asking availability, duration, incall or outcall, and maybe cost if not known or posted. 95% of the time I get a fast response. Curious what others send through WhatsApp.Straight to the point is the way to go. The girls don't like long stories. What I usually say in Portuguese is more or less;.

Hi, how are you? I'm a a gringo staying in this or that area or I tell them my hotels name (if I want her to come to my hotel). Then I tell them that I saw positive reviews of her on gpguia. My idea is to tell her that I know what the price should be. I think it works, because I have never been asked more than what the locals pay. Of course, if the girl comes to your hotel instead of you going to her place, the price is slightly, maybe BRL50 higher. Then I ask her what she does and what she doesn't do or how is her "atendimento" and ALWAYS the price. I also mention that I'm going to pay cash. In your case I would mention that you don't speak very good Portuguese, then the girl knows what to expect. Sometimes they answer fast, sometimes the next day and sometimes never.

Before I used to take screenshots of the messages I saw on internet. Below you can see very simple message written by a Brazilian.

Exec Talent
07-19-21, 23:28
Straight to the point is the way to go.Excellent advice. For those coming from the US, keep in mind you are not doing anything illegal or even out of the norm. Same goes for the girl.

She is offering a service and you are purchasing one. Unless you speak Portuguese and are comfortable with the subtle nuances of the culture and language, it is best to keep your communications short and simple. When you meet in person, show your warmth and friendliness. The girl does not know you. The more comfortable she feels around you, the better.

EverythingBlue
07-20-21, 03:04
Straight to the point is the way to go. The girls don't like long stories. What I usually say in Portuguese is more or less;.

Hi, how are you? I'm a a gringo staying in this or that area or I tell them my hotels name (if I want her to come to my hotel). Then I tell them that I saw positive reviews of her on gpguia. My idea is to tell her that I know what the price should be. I think it works, because I have never been asked more than what the locals pay. Of course, if the girl comes to your hotel instead of you going to her place, the price is slightly, maybe BRL50 higher. Then I ask her what she does and what she doesn't do or how is her "atendimento" and ALWAYS the price. I also mention that I'm going to pay cash. In your case I would mention that you don't speak very good Portuguese, then the girl knows what to expect. Sometimes they answer fast, sometimes the next day and sometimes never.

Before I used to take screenshots of the messages I saw on internet. Below you can see very simple message written by a Brazilian.This makes a lot of sense, mentioning GPGuia says you've done some DD, I'm glad you shared this info! Hoping it works when I put it to the test next month!


Excellent advice. For those coming from the US, keep in mind you are not doing anything illegal or even out of the norm. Same goes for the girl.

She is offering a service and you are purchasing one. Unless you speak Portuguese and are comfortable with the subtle nuances of the culture and language, it is best to keep your communications short and simple. When you meet in person, show your warmth and friendliness. The girl does not know you. The more comfortable she feels around you, the better.It's hard to remember that you have that freedom to discuss openly in Brazil, one can only dream one day we'll be able to in the US as well!

Xpartan
07-20-21, 05:38
I've read 100 pages on the SP and almost the same on the RJ reports but haven't found my answers yet, hoping someone can chime in on your monger operating procedures when visiting a terapias or contacting a Garota found online through WhatsApp.

1) I noticed many terapias and Clinicas list different services on their websites, but none say full service. If I don't care about a massage, how do you approach the conversation about wanting full service only? I speak no Portuguese so I'm trying to work this out in my mind for when I walk in I feel less stupid if they don't offer such services LOL. Example:

http://copaterapias.com.br/services/

I don't see full service. All other options seem pricey BTW, and no full service?

2) What is your normal message structure when reaching out to a garota found online or Twitter? If you don't speak Portuguese, do you message them in English or Portuguese but using Google translate? Do you let them know you speak little to no Portuguese? I'm curious about this, here in the States I normally send one message, polite but straight to the point asking availability, duration, incall or outcall, and maybe cost if not known or posted. 95% of the time I get a fast response. Curious what others send through WhatsApp.1. They operate under the guise of massage parlors, but most do offer full service. I think Copa Terapia doesn't offer FS, but I'm not 100% sure I'm thinking about the right place. To take guesswork out of it, check GParena. They have reviews of most establishments in RJ.

2. Like other people say, straight to the point is the best approach, but I like mentioning how pretty she is. I don't know whether it helps or not, but it surely won't hurt. Do mention right away that you don't speak Portuguese. And regardless of what you do, expect a fair number of flake outs, it's just the way it is.


Cafe Marambaia is worth the trip. The food is awesome, especially paella -- best of my life.

View of Ihla Grande and beach is awesome.

There are several pousadas, and a beach club. Even if you do not have time for a local trip to Ihla Grande or Buzios, a trip to Marambaia with a girl is a good move. Good houses can be rented for 1300 r per month. It is far away, and a dedicated uber driver will be necessary. For the Senhor Spartan's there is a bus. Truly, this is off the grid. You would have to be a real vagabundo to make it here.

This town is undiscovered, and worth a trip.Sounds like a gem. I love undiscovered gems in Brazil. Thank you!

Rio Bob
07-20-21, 15:08
1. They operate under the guise of massage parlors, but most do offer full service. I think Copa Terapia doesn't offer FS, but I'm not 100% sure I'm thinking about the right place. To take guesswork out of it, check GParena. They have reviews of most establishments in RJ.!You're correct, I was recently in Copa terapia and they don't provide sex but they do provide an orgasm via a handjob at the end. I got the nuru massage where the orgasm is provided but I'm pretty sure it's not provided for all massages. If you're interested in this type of thing just ask if the massage includes Orgasm which is the word that they used.

Vagabundo1
07-20-21, 15:19
Whenever you fuck a Brazilian play this https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=yAk7BkGl2Jw&feature=share.

Play the Full album Felipe Ret.

Vagabundo1
07-20-21, 15:57
https://www.google.com/travel/hotels/s/UybMu


Sounds like a gem. I love undiscovered gems in Brazil. Thank you!

Vagabundo1
07-21-21, 00:49
Tuesday. Vagabundo, JimmyBoy99, and Bravo Centro Terma Patrol.

We did a centro terma patrol, having linked up at RB156. We did go over to Casa Bombeiro, and in loja 20, my wingman got a nice grey Bombeiro Civil hat. I've posted the Casa Bombeiro address before.

As a navigator, Bravo is the best! He had a full list from top to bottom of the main three buildings (156,185).

It is fun to go in and interview all the girls and enjoy the economic and other privilege of knowing you can bang any woman.

Rather than hit all the details, I will summarize the highlights.

In RB156, the best talent is at 2235, or Onix. There was a hot mulata getting ready for an hour with another client who did not come into the presentation.

In RB185, the best talent was at 405, which had a large equipe (team). Belprazer at 2114 is always top shelf, as I get the impression that is their flagship casa (Duda, Emporio, Annes, Massagem are all co owned AFAIK).

We headed over to where Jimmy boy is staying, but not before checking in with the legendary Kelly, who is a real piece of work, tall, amazon-esque, could be a fearsome MMA opponent if she were so inclined, and I can see she knows how to fuck, and could easily fight. She is a little too tall and muscular for my taste, I prefer the falsa magra, and younger (18-21), but I will probably do her once just because it is Rio and fucking is like shaking hands.

Emporio Bahno had the best line up. A hot mulata there almost got my donation, and I will be back to this tier 1 prive. Nice rooms, good selection. 2-3 very solid 7-9's.

We ate at Zanetti, a buffet a kilo with good tuna.

We hit Hotel Sao Francisco / Hotel Atlantico Tower, where I hit the 18th floor pool, and racked out on one of the benches for a bit, after testing the waters, and just putting my feet in. My suggestion is to meet up there at 14 h tomorrow, Wednesday, before heading over to 4 x 4 at 16 h, for a kind of ISG social. The sauna in 4 x4 is among the best in centro and works well after a dip in the pool where one gets bremuda shorts wet.

After that refresher, I headed over to 116, and did one of my favorite hot 21 year old negras, falsa magra, super tight, a anne amari clone, for 80 reais, or 16 US Dollars. OK, 116 is dingy, and all the rest, but it is the place where the best negras come in centro.

A fine day.


Whenever you fuck a Brazilian play this https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=yAk7BkGl2Jw&feature=share.

Play the Full album Felipe Ret.

Sperto
07-21-21, 03:54
... but not before checking in with the legendary Kelly, who is a real piece of work, tall, amazon-esque, could be a fearsome MMA opponent if she were so inclined, and I can see she knows how to fuck, and could easily fight. She is a little too tall and muscular for my taste, I prefer the falsa magra, and younger (18-21), but I will probably do her once just because it is Rio and fucking is like shaking hands..."Amazon-esque", that was a perfect description of Kelly! Considering Senhor Vagabundo is a Rio mongering champ, you really must try out Kelly, the star of Stellas Massagem. She is very tall, very muscular and have silicon tits. No attributes that I like too much. However, she f*cks better than any pornstar, trying her anal is a must. Don't miss her BBBJCIM, which is incredible. Despite being a giant Amazon woman she's a very kind and sweet woman.

TravelGuy79
07-21-21, 05:15
Based on advice on here I've decided to stay in Cococabana but my best off staying close to the beach or is there a better area? I plan on spending quite a bit of time on the beach so what do I do with my stuff when I'm by myself and In the water so it doesn't get stolen any suggestions? In other countries I just left my belongings unattended and never had an issue however I have read on here that there's a high chance my stuff could be stolen doing that.

Also is there a map that somebody can link to you with all the different mongering locations around Rio? Thanks!

Bravo
07-21-21, 16:58
I was at 4 X4 on Monday and it looks like they are attempting to change their entry fee policy. In the past, if you took a girl before 6 PM, the entry fee was waived. It seems like that will not be the case any longer. They placed tape over the bottom of the price listing sheet explaining entry fee waiver.

When I went to pay my bill on Monday, I saw the entry fee and asked why it was included when I took a girl at 5:30 PM. The clerk yelled out the manager that she was giving me the promotion discount and then took it off my bill. Quietly, she whispered to me that they are trying to do away with that waiver because business is so slow.

Jimmy Boy 99
07-21-21, 17:50
Went out about 8 PM for a tour of darkside clubs two termas.

116 Rua de Conceicao: No entry fee. Too loud and too dark. Maybe 8-9 women, a little more men. To the extent I could see the women in the dark, none looked fuckable, so I left.

114 Rua de Conceicao: 10 Real entry (don't know if consumable). Could see from reception desk that it was empty, so left without going in.

31 Rua Alcantara Machado: 15 Real entry (consumable). Asked how many girls present. Was told three. Left without entering.

210 Uruguaiana: No entry fee. Enough light to see the women. Maybe 8-10 there, double that in men. Nobody fuckable so left.

119 Rua de Alfandega: No entry fee. No women, no customers. Completely empty. Left.

Club 502 (65 Rua de Alfandega): 10 Real entry (not consumable). Asked doorman how many women present. Was told 8. Equal number of customers. No one fuckable. Left.

Whiskeria 65 (65 Rua do Rosario): Entry now 70 Real (consumable. Caipirinhas and beers 20 Real). One hour now 325 Real. Monday two-girl special for 525 (545?) Real. Robe optional. Very dark and deafening music. Almost impossible to hear anyone. Maybe 20 women, lots of horse asses. Two women with nice faces but no tits or ass: a brunette who was guzzling down some old guy's vodka and spent the whole time I was there with him, and a tall tanned white girl with blonde dreadlocks, who was usually being felt up by a guy in a robe. Two other OK looking girls but not any better than prive girls at less than half the price. Tried to get some relief from the deafening noise so went to the other salon but it was closed: apparently there are not enough customers on Mondays so they shut the quiet lounge. Left without sessioning.

Was feeling pretty buzzed after 3 caipirinhas and didn't want to probably waste another 50 Real entry so didn't try 4 x4, since I will be going there Wednesday.

Conclusion: don't bother with these clubs (and probably the others) on a Monday night.

Jimmy Boy 99
07-21-21, 17:52
Got to VM about 9:30 PM. Dead. Counted 30 girls in the whole horseshoe part of VM. Some clubs closed, some no girls, max three girls in any club. Maybe 15 girls in the clubs across the street. Never seen it so dead.

Went to Mosaico about 10 PM. 30 Real entry (consumable. Beers 12 Real, no caipirinhas. Unfriendliest bartender I have ever met.) 8 girls, all sitting with a bunch of guys. Average prive quality girls. Two peeled off but never made any effort to engage with me, although no great loss since they were so-so at best. Hung around an hour hoping it would improve but it actually got worse as the girls went to do programas and no new girls showed up. When I left there were three girls and maybe 6 guys.

Conclusion: I either have the knack for finding the worst days to go clubbing or the scene is really as bad as it seems. Maybe the only good nights are Friday and Saturday. May check it out again then but no reason to go again before then.

Mr Enternational
07-21-21, 18:29
I plan on spending quite a bit of time on the beach so what do I do with my stuff when I'm by myself and In the water so it doesn't get stolen any suggestions? In other countries I just left my belongings unattended and never had an issue however I have read on here that there's a high chance my stuff could be stolen doing that.What stuff do you plan on bringing to the beach with you? I have never heard of anyone stealing things off the sand near the water. The stealing usually occurs on the sidewalk between the beach and the street. I have a zip up pocket on my swim trunks so I can keep the room key and money in that and leave my shirt on top of my shoes on the sand. If I am renting a chair and umbrella and have my bag with me, my bag has a clip that I rig to the chair or underside of the umbrella.

Balboa
07-21-21, 22:00
Conclusion: don't bother with these clubs (and probably the others) on a Monday night.Thanks for the report Jimmy!

Yep, Monday's are generally, world wide, Hookers night off. Lol.

I try and reserve Monday's for GF time.

Rio Bob
07-21-21, 22:05
Based on advice on here I've decided to stay in Cococabana but my best off staying close to the beach or is there a better area? I plan on spending quite a bit of time on the beach so what do I do with my stuff when I'm by myself and In the water so it doesn't get stolen any suggestions? In other countries I just left my belongings unattended and never had an issue however I have read on here that there's a high chance my stuff could be stolen doing that.

Also is there a map that somebody can link to you with all the different mongering locations around Rio? Thanks!Like Mr. E implies don't bring any stuff with you but your money and key. If you do leave any stuff unattended and go swimming yes there is a good chance they will run off with it. Sometimes people ask me to watch their stuff and I say sure or you can go ask the guy who rented you the chairs to keep it secure in his stand the barraca.

Smokers Rule
07-21-21, 23:57
Gearing up for my first trip in many years and I am dismayed to hear Barbarella is closed. I loved that place, many good pulls from there. I didn't mind the prices and always found decent quality women there.

Is Casablanca the next best option for something like Barbarella?

The Cane
07-22-21, 00:11
Gearing up for my first trip in many years and I am dismayed to hear Barbarella is closed. I loved that place, many good pulls from there. I didn't mind the prices and always found decent quality women there.

Is Casablanca the next best option for something like Barbarella?Last time I was in Rio the locals were pushing Marrakech as well as Casa Blanca (White House). Never been to either one, so can't offer any personal insights.

Balboa
07-22-21, 01:17
Gearing up for my first trip in many years and I am dismayed to hear Barbarella is closed. I loved that place, many good pulls from there. I didn't mind the prices and always found decent quality women there.

Is Casablanca the next best option for something like Barbarella?Or maybe Dolce Vita. Late night, Copa.

Mosaico near VM as well.

Xpartan
07-22-21, 03:24
You're correct, I was recently in Copa terapia and they don't provide sex but they do provide an orgasm via a handjob at the end. I got the nuru massage where the orgasm is provided but I'm pretty sure it's not provided for all massages. If you're interested in this type of thing just ask if the massage includes Orgasm which is the word that they used.Yeah, I thought it sounded familiar.


Based on advice on here I've decided to stay in Cococabana but my best off staying close to the beach or is there a better area? I plan on spending quite a bit of time on the beach so what do I do with my stuff when I'm by myself and In the water so it doesn't get stolen any suggestions? In other countries I just left my belongings unattended and never had an issue however I have read on here that there's a high chance my stuff could be stolen doing that.

Also is there a map that somebody can link to you with all the different mongering locations around Rio? Thanks!I don't know if you're staying at a hotel or apartment, but don't stay 'close' to the beach. Stay across from the beach on Avenida Atlantica. Sure, 1-2 blocks from the beach don't sound like a big deal, but that puts you on Nossa Senhora, which is noisy, polluted, unpleasant and might be an unsafe walk down a side street late at night. Trust me, this one or two blocks (depending where in Copa you're staying) makes a hell of a difference even if staying on Atlantica costs you a few more shekels. The only exception is if you're staying in Arpoador. I love that small area between Copacabana and Ipanema, and there are some upscale apartments there with killer views.

DreamCarnarvon
07-22-21, 05:48
Went out about 8 PM for a tour of darkside clubs two termas.
Conclusion: don't bother with these clubs (and probably the others) on a Monday night.What you experienced on your tour was pretty much equal to what I had experienced late last year. Girl quality is generally pretty bad. Good quality girls can be found in these 'darkside' clubs but it will take a lot of visits and some luck before you can uncover one. From my experience last year, the only one really worth visiting was Rua Uruguaiana, 210. They had the most girls and the best quality (out of the 'darkside' clubs). Still, for me, I do get some excitement and enjoyment out of going to these clubs.

DreamCarnarvon
07-22-21, 07:18
Conclusion: I either have the knack for finding the worst days to go clubbing or the scene is really as bad as it seems. Maybe the only good nights are Friday and Saturday. May check it out again then but no reason to go again before then.Mosaico used to be one of my favorites. I remember the place packed with people, 20-30 girls, non-stop funk music and naked pole dancing. The last time I had a session there was in mid 2019. Went there on a Monday night after midnight. Met this 29 years old named Juliana, face 8/10, mother to a 6 years old boy. Turned out what made her so attractive was because she had indigenous blood in her. Took her for 30 minutes for 150 reais. The sex was pretty good but the room was just god awful. The bed was hella nasty and the light in the room barely worked. I swear I don't know how I was able to tolerate it back then. My last visit was in late 2019. Didn't session as I didn't see anyone that I really liked. Didn't go there on my last trip.

Jimmy, I think you went there too early. Mosaico doesn't get busy until at least after 11 pm. Best nights to go are Thursday or Friday nights.

Mosaico is a good option if one wants to experience something a bit different. Its a pretty good spot to hang out. The girls are not pushy and the quality, in general, is pretty good. Its also a lot lighter on the wallet compared to the termas. Of course all this was 2 years ago. So Jimmy, if you are able to, please check it out again on a Thursday or Friday night around midnight and let us know how things are.

Vagabundo1
07-22-21, 12:20
Wednesday epic Pussy Patrol.

Vagabundo headed to centro on the 9 h15 bus from Transamerica. Vagabundo linked up with Palcon who had an appointment with Stephany at TDM33/3206. She was a no show (surprise surprise). JimmyBoy99 also joined the patrol in Sexy Hot.

The team went down to 2414, cacau is notable. Vagabundo made an appointment at 12 h with her.

Then 2106, where the ruiva (redhead), Jade is notable. Also there is Camila, a young girl with big tits no kids. Palcon had left his number with sexy hot for stephany.

We went to some other prives, but they did not want 3 gringos, so we headed down the stairs to the bottom so we could go up and session.

Vagabundo went to 2414, but cacau was being stuffed by another linquica, alas. So he headed down to 2106 for the ruiva, who was excellent. 150 r. Palcon went up to 3206 and there was no Stephany, so he did Karina, who also has been written about on gparena.

JimmyBoy was back at Atlántico tower, changing rooms.

Vagabundo and Palcon went to eat at Zanetti on Rua Rosario. Fresh seared tuna is good.

We were a little late for the 14 h social at the roof of Atlántico tower, but we made it, and linked up with a walk on -- a friend we had made at Bel Prazer -- along the way, and thus, there were 4 knights of the round table by the little pool. Gato1 came up with another 2 friends, and so, there were 7 of us. We had a few beers in the afternoon light of the 18th floor rooftop pool side, where the locals smoked hookah, and the young lesbian lovers cavorted in the pool, along with kids, who were joined by a vagabundo in his Bermuda shorts. A good venue to talk over the travails of mongering in Rio de Janeiro, perhaps the best place in the world to do our particular hobby.

All details were classified Fight Club Confidential and Swiss Navy Secret.

Six of us, without JimmyBoy who, by the way, had to sponsor us as his guests at the rooftop pool terrace, headed over to 116 at 17 h. Four of us sessioned, including Vagabundo with the anne amari clone, who got a 40 minute session for 100 r. She gave a good BBBJ, and is still holding out her BBFS pussy, but Vagabundo, having blown two loads in the ruiva including one out of her mouth and onto the microfiber blanket that is used as a sheet, was drained anyway. Ana Foxxx had been texting Vababundo to schedule an overnight at 18 h, but she was canceled by Vagabundo because the plan was to go to 4 x4. 4 of the 6 sessioned with negras and morenas, tight young 20 year olds, who were chosen in the dingy light of the local bar. Vagabundo tried, and failed to be a DJ, playing "Lawyers Guns and Money" and Santana. The girls danced, but their little carioca brains wanted funk, so Vagabundo put on "Vagabundo e Dama"and all was again right. The patrol had formed up again anyway, and we were ready to roll, which we did.

We rolled to 4 x4. It was 18 h30 or 19 h. Jimmy Boy joined us so we were 7 strong. The talent was excellent. Vagabundo got more numbers. 3 or 4 guys sessioned there. Some of the hot new morenas with their tight MMA bodies were really superb. Criminal vagabundos took up the corner with their bottle service. Maybe we should stake out the same, or not. Since Vagabundo had already sport fucked for 3 loads, he was quite content to dance for tips from the strippers, suck face a little with the girls lusting after him or at least faking it well. There was the tall blonde from Minas Gerais that many have fucked. She agreed to 300 at a hotel for an hour. There is the tall Mulata bad ass negra who has no kids who Vagabundo discussed a viagem to Marambaia with. There are a whole host of new usual suspects in need of fucking.

The sauna is nice, a good warm up after the afternoon. The sauna room has padded lawn furniture chair lounges. Some chatted there. It is a good venue to watch for the best bundas who are chosen to session. Vagabundo, being a Swiss Naval Attache and military genius, gets numbers even there, while the girl is waiting to go fuck. There was Pietra, who one of Gato1's friends picked, a Paulistana with a kid, and a tight hot body. Vagabundo has no shame, scruples, morals or limits.

After the night of socializing, we rolled out in threes, and twos, and Vagabundo got a car for 45 r back to Barra.

Summary: 250 r for fucking, free bus to Centro, 45 r uber back, 40 r for lunch, 25 r for beers.

Yossarian
07-22-21, 16:42
Based on advice on here I've decided to stay in Cococabana but my best off staying close to the beach or is there a better area? I plan on spending quite a bit of time on the beach so what do I do with my stuff when I'm by myself and In the water so it doesn't get stolen any suggestions? In other countries I just left my belongings unattended and never had an issue however I have read on here that there's a high chance my stuff could be stolen doing that.

Also is there a map that somebody can link to you with all the different mongering locations around Rio? Thanks!FWIW, don't go into the water at Copacabana. It's basically a sewer. But, if you want to stash your stuff, the Postos along the beach have showers and lockers there for rent. I hear that the water at Barra da Tijuca is relatively clean; but, I can't personally attest to that.

Vagabundo1
07-22-21, 17:26
It is clean.

Take It from a Man who has done 50 Olympic triathlons.


FWIW, don't go into the water at Copacabana. It's basically a sewer. But, if you want to stash your stuff, the Postos along the beach have showers and lockers there for rent. I hear that the water at Barra da Tijuca is relatively clean; but, I can't personally attest to that.

StarGazer101
07-22-21, 17:31
In two weeks I'm embarking on my first trip to Brazil and Rio.

I have read virtually every single post in the Rio forum since just before the Covid crisis hit the world (had tentative plans to go last summer). I have also read most longer posts all the way back through 2018.

Looking at the forum and searching online there don't seem to be a lot of girl friendly hotels. I would appreciate advice on hotels. Preferably I would like to keep the daily rate around 40 Euro or lower, but I can go as high as 60 Euros. Of course I want the hotel to be in Centro, close to the action.

Hotel Windsor Guanabara looks nice, and it seems each room has a balcony / terass which I like since I am a smoker. I also found a budget alternative that doesn't look too bad, Hotel OK, but I'm not sure if it's close enough to the action being located just north of "Praa Passeio Pblico".

I'd also like to know if Rio is a good place to find a girl that stays with you for a few days or a week, like in Thailand. My usual MO on my mongering trips is that the first few days are about quantity, the next few days about quality and the final few days / week I settle for the GFE with one girl.

I will arrive on August 7th and stay for just over two weeks. If anyone want to hit the bars or Termas with an Asian born middle aged Swedish guy, let me know.

BurnInMoilite
07-22-21, 17:54
"Amazon-esque", that was a perfect description of Kelly! Considering Senhor Vagabundo is a Rio mongering champ, you really must try out Kelly, the star of Stellas Massagem. She is very tall, very muscular and have silicon tits. No attributes that I like too much. However, she f*cks better than any pornstar, trying her anal is a must. Don't miss her BBBJCIM, which is incredible. Despite being a giant Amazon woman she's a very kind and sweet woman.Whoaaa. Looks like my dream girl! How tall is she exactly? I am a sucker for tall women.

Nordico
07-22-21, 18:13
It is clean.

Take It from a Man who has done 50 Olympic triathlons.Three days ago http://www.inea.rj.gov.br/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/barra_e_zona_sul_boletim-5.pdf.

Vagabundo1
07-22-21, 18:14
Who or whoever leads a wandering life, wanders, wanders, wanders.

Vagabundo1
07-22-21, 19:29
I have a surf wallet that I hang round my neck on the necklace of the Swiss Naval Special Warfare, and I keep small change in a bombeiro Militar wallet, while carrying a SOG SEAL Strike inside my waistband, along with a Glock 43 in a neoprene pancake holster.

That last bit about the Glock is pure bullshit, just because I am writing a great spy novel on the beach of Barra the Tijuca, where there is no crime, not on the beach or on the sidewalks back to Barra, because this place is run by Gauchos, straight up Nordic Germanic guards all veterans of the Porto Allegre SWAT Team.


What stuff do you plan on bringing to the beach with you? I have never heard of anyone stealing things off the sand near the water. The stealing usually occurs on the sidewalk between the beach and the street. I have a zip up pocket on my swim trunks so I can keep the room key and money in that and leave my shirt on top of my shoes on the sand. If I am renting a chair and umbrella and have my bag with me, my bag has a clip that I rig to the chair or underside of the umbrella.

Vagabundo1
07-22-21, 19:45
Vagabundo Pussy Patrol. Friday 14 h Transamerica, Av Gastao Senges 395, Paris, Perola.

On Friday, we are going to do a barra pussy tour.

14 meet at Av Gastao Senges 395.

We will have beers at the restaurant, maybe the beach or pool. We will to go Paris and Perola Negra after at night.

Join my whatsapp group for deets.

Bring your bluetooth speakers.

Friday 14 h we will have a pussy patrol. Start at 14 h at Transamerica, 385.


Wednesday epic Pussy Patrol.

Vagabundo headed to centro on the 9 h15 bus from Transamerica. Vagabundo linked up with Palcon who had an appointment with Stephany at TDM33/3206. She was a no show (surprise surprise). JimmyBoy99 also joined the patrol in Sexy Hot.

The team went down to 2414, cacau is notable. Vagabundo made an appointment at 12 h with her.

Then 2106, where the ruiva (redhead), Jade is notable. Also there is Camila, a young girl with big tits no kids. Palcon had left his number with sexy hot for stephany.

We went to some other prives, but they did not want 3 gringos, so we headed down the stairs to the bottom so we could go up and session...

Questner
07-22-21, 20:25
Three days ago http://www.inea.rj.gov.br/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/barra_e_zona_sul_boletim-5.pdf.Them frente ao 2º GBM (Bombeiros), nearest to Transamerica is in red (not clean).

Vagabundo1
07-23-21, 02:26
Lululemon Bermuda shorts have CC pocket.

https://shop.lululemon.com/p/men-shorts/Pace-Breaker-Short-NF-7-Lined/_/prod9310050?color=49229

Local equivalent store is Decathlon.

I like 5. 11 Apex pant, with bermudas under and keep surf wallet in pocket of bermudas.

https://www.511tactical.com/apex-pant.html

For real operations I wear a triathlete. Bottom with side pockets for wallet beneath Apex pants but they get hot.

Boxer briefs wotu well and one can swim in them too.


What stuff do you plan on bringing to the beach with you? I have never heard of anyone stealing things off the sand near the water. The stealing usually occurs on the sidewalk between the beach and the street. I have a zip up pocket on my swim trunks so I can keep the room key and money in that and leave my shirt on top of my shoes on the sand. If I am renting a chair and umbrella and have my bag with me, my bag has a clip that I rig to the chair or underside of the umbrella.

Vagabundo1
07-23-21, 06:40
I did Ana Foxxx, two pops, BBFSCIP and up her tight ass. 400 r plus uber, which came to 160. I bought her lunch at the beach, and bought stuff she wanted like a bathing suit (70), and some batteries which I kept, and a sunguard shirt which I kept, all in 600 reads or so for those trinkets and the lunch. Her attendance has some problems, like her ordering food just for her self on the phone, or even at the restaurant; Brazilians are the most selfish people in the world. And she always is in a rush to leave, which pisses me off, and she was reluctant about the deep French kissing (she obviously has boyfriends more her age). But I take it as it comes. To fuck the real Ana foxxx in North America would cost 1000 USD an hour from what I hear, and it would be covered, and it would be in some uncomfortable venue like a hotel room with some security guy sitting somewhere nearby. Ana foxxx -- my real hooker here in Rio -- has her flaws, but I love the fucking, and she comes, and we go for a good 40 minutes of raw heat of the jungle sex, sometimes over an hour. Sex is a good workout.

The other problem with whoring with these hookers is the bad health habits -- the constant smoking. Whether ganja is a gateway to coke, it is definitely a gateway to nicotine, and that is just bad. Alcohol is bad. The cannabis by itself is better than liquor and nicotine, but in an ideal world I would avoid that too.

In any case, after I sent Ana Foxx on her uber, I hit 4 x 4, where Palcon was banging the best girls. Dandy and I met up with him, but went over to 116, where we both sessioned.

Tomorrow is a Barra patrol, which, I would suggest should be a minimum 1 day in any pro forma week long patrol by a new monger.

We are meeting at Transamerica at 2 PM, and it looks like 3 at least. The plan is to socialize in the afternoon sun, maybe at the beach (as I may not be able to get everyone into the pool), or at the very least at the restaurant, and then to hit Paris Cafe and or Perola Negra later that night. There are good rooms at both termas. I will also set up my room at Transamerica so people could grab a nap there or we could bring some girls back to my room.

Rodeo9112
07-23-21, 11:56
Greetings fellow deviants!

After a subpar trip last December due to traveling with a drag of a friend, I am making my much needed return to Rio. I've been lining some honeys up from future trips and will of course hit the prives and Termas. One of my girls suggested doing a sex party with me, her and 4 girls from her gym. I've been bugging her for this for like 3 years. So, I'm trying to find a good location to do it: no issues with neighbors, nice open space indoors, large private jacuzzi and / or pool and reasonably priced to accommodate 6-8 people comfortable. Looking for hourly / partial day rental or overnight rental. Thanks in advance!

StarGazer101
07-23-21, 15:08
After having checked "regular" travel advice I decided to change and I have now reserved a room at Hotel Astoria Palace for my stay. It is very close to the Copa beach and seems to be girl friendly. I booked a double room for two persons to make sure.

Since it's my first trip and I speak neither Portuguese nor Spanish I figured it's best to stay in a mainstream tourist area.

If anyone want to meet up for some bar hopping or Terma visits I will be in Rio 7-23 August.

WyattEarp
07-23-21, 17:38
..........Sex is a good workout.

The other problem with whoring with these hookers is the bad health habits -- the constant smoking. Whether ganja is a gateway to coke, it is definitely a gateway to nicotine, and that is just bad. Alcohol is bad. The cannabis by itself is better than liquor and nicotine, but in an ideal world I would avoid that too.I wonder if this is a self-selection process. Most of the girls I have ran around with in Rio don't smoke and ony drink a bit. I am turned off by kissing cigarette mouths. The 4 x4 girls I am generally partial to seem like they are dedicated sexual athletes. No joke.

I'm curious what other's experiences are.

The Cane
07-23-21, 18:35
I wonder if this is a self-selection process. Most of the girls I have ran around with in Rio don't smoke and ony drink a bit. I am turned off by kissing cigarette mouths. The 4 x4 girls I am generally partial to seem like they are dedicated sexual athletes. No joke.

I'm curious what other's experiences are.My experience has been the same as yours. Now, the problem isn't so much with them smoking and drinking and you kissing on "ashtray" mouth. No, you got to be concerned more about if she used Scope in between cum shots to the pearlie whites! Aaaahahaha!

Spidy
07-23-21, 19:19
Them frente ao 2 GBM (Bombeiros), nearest to Transamerica is in red (not clean).


Three days ago http://www.inea.rj.gov.br/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/barra_e_zona_sul_boletim-5.pdfYour post with the ". pdf" (as of Jul-19-2021) of the cleaner beaches to be found in Rio, is very interesting, very interesting indeed. It looks like an official undertaking from the Governo do Rio (and by extension the Prefeitura the Cidade do Rio), so one can only assume it warrants some merit.

Since recent talk about some beaches being cleaner than others, it comes as somewhat of a shock that the Copa beaches are in better standing than others (like Barra) that were seen as being cleaner. Perhaps the upkeep with regards to Copa and Leme, has been better than first realized.

Thanks! That's Great info and good to know!

Vagabundo1
07-23-21, 19:38
Girassol.

Jacaparagua.


Greetings fellow deviants!

After a subpar trip last December due to traveling with a drag of a friend, I am making my much needed return to Rio. I've been lining some honeys up from future trips and will of course hit the prives and Termas. One of my girls suggested doing a sex party with me, her and 4 girls from her gym. I've been bugging her for this for like 3 years. So, I'm trying to find a good location to do it: no issues with neighbors, nice open space indoors, large private jacuzzi and / or pool and reasonably priced to accommodate 6-8 people comfortable. Looking for hourly / partial day rental or overnight rental. Thanks in advance!

Xpartan
07-23-21, 19:58
Your post with the ". pdf" (as of Jul-19-2021) of the cleaner beaches to be found in Rio, is very interesting, very interesting indeed. It looks like an official undertaking from the Governo do Rio (and by extension the Prefeitura the Cidade do Rio), so one can only assume it warrants some merit.

Since recent talk about some beaches being cleaner than others, it comes as somewhat of a shock that the Copa beaches are in better standing than others (like Barra) that were seen as being cleaner. Perhaps the upkeep with regards to Copa and Leme, has been better than first realized.

Thanks! That's Great info and good to know!I've posted a live link to the government agency monitoring the beaches. I suggest anyone who stays in Rio bookmark and loads this page every time they're going to the beach, because things change daily.

https://praialimpa.net

You really need to check it daily. I. e. Today it seems all Copa and Ipa beaches are clean, while Barra is 50:50, but it's not always this way. I even see that a Botafogo beach today (Marquês de Olinda) is shown as clean. Maybe you shouldn't fully trust this resource (I probably still wouldn't go into the water in Botafogo), but it's better then flying blind, I think.

Nordico
07-23-21, 21:16
I've posted a live link to the government agency monitoring the beaches. I suggest anyone who stays in Rio bookmark and loads this page every time they're going to the beach, because things change daily.

https://praialimpa.net

You really need to check it daily. I. e. Today it seems all Copa and Ipa beaches are clean, while Barra is 50:50, but it's not always this way. I even see that a Botafogo beach today (Marqus de Olinda) is shown as clean. Maybe you shouldn't fully trust this resource (I probably still wouldn't go into the water in Botafogo), but it's better then flying blind, I think.It seems to be the same info. If you scroll down the page of Praia Limpa, it says the source (Fonte) is Inea http://www.inea.rj.gov.br/ar-agua-e-solo/balneabilidade-das-praias/.

BoldNineK
07-23-21, 21:54
Vaga Is 1200 Brazilian reas per day a good budget for mongering?

Obviously it depends on the girl but I'm talking about an 8/10 or higher.

Also what's you're schedule like on November 10th, 11th and 12th. I'll monger with you during these days or if anyone wants to monger and be my wingman That would be super fun. I'm down to have orgys, girl swaps and whatever goes really.

I'll be staying at Hotel Windsor or Hotel Transamerica till the 10th, then will just stay in the love hotel Malaga you mentioned on 10th 11th and 12th OR the 150 m one near club mosaic.

I'm also going on a seeking date on August 9th with a beautiful 24 year student whose going to med school to become a doctor, met her on seeking LOL.

Bravo
07-23-21, 23:18
After having checked "regular" travel advice I decided to change and I have now reserved a room at Hotel Astoria Palace for my stay. It is very close to the Copa beach and seems to be girl friendly. I booked a double room for two persons to make sure.

Since it's my first trip and I speak neither Portuguese nor Spanish I figured it's best to stay in a mainstream tourist area.

If anyone want to meet up for some bar hopping or Terma visits I will be in Rio 7-23 August.I stayed at Astoria 3 weeks ago. It s kinda girl friendly, I would advise looking elsewhere. They will let you bring in ONE female on your 2 person reservation!! If you bring in a different girl for an over night experience, they will charge you an 80 R fee for each new female. Not a lot of money, but it sucks to have to pay a fee when you already payed for two fucking people.

Trojan22
07-23-21, 23:53
I stayed at Astoria 3 weeks ago. It s kinda girl friendly, I would advise looking elsewhere. They will let you bring in ONE female on your 2 person reservation!! If you bring in a different girl for an over night experience, they will charge you an 80 R fee for each new female. Not a lot of money, but it sucks to have to pay a fee when you already payed for two fucking people.If it's not an overnight, do you still have to pay?

Vagabundo1
07-24-21, 00:26
300 r a day.

80 r half hour morning with a Prive girl.

80 r half hour afternoon Prive girl.

120 r at night hour one of those girls.

600 for a big day, but 300 as a rule.

Alternative 300 Pernoite with a regular, which is 24 h of all you can fuck, 5 pops, 3 times a week, which means fuck at night, fuck in morning, and on the 7th day, hike but don't have sex.

You can scroll through and find alternative budgets. Whether one is better than the other is what we call high class problems.


Vaga Is 1200 Brazilian reas per day a good budget for mongering?

Obviously it depends on the girl but I'm talking about an 8/10 or higher.

Also what's you're schedule like on November 10th, 11th and 12th. I'll monger with you during these days or if anyone wants to monger and be my wingman That would be super fun. I'm down to have orgys, girl swaps and whatever goes really.

I'll be staying at Hotel Windsor or Hotel Transamerica till the 10th, then will just stay in the love hotel Malaga you mentioned on 10th 11th and 12th OR the 150 m one near club mosaic.

I'm also going on a seeking date on August 9th with a beautiful 24 year student whose going to med school to become a doctor, met her on seeking LOL.

The Cane
07-24-21, 00:28
I stayed at Astoria 3 weeks ago. It s kinda girl friendly, I would advise looking elsewhere. They will let you bring in ONE female on your 2 person reservation!! If you bring in a different girl for an over night experience, they will charge you an 80 R fee for each new female. Not a lot of money, but it sucks to have to pay a fee when you already payed for two fucking people.When I stayed there (was a long time ago), I brought in different girls on different nights. It was different girls, but it was only one girl per day / night on my two-person reservation, and there were no "chica fees". And of course the location in Copa is great if you want to be in Copa.

Bravo
07-24-21, 00:48
In 20+ years of traveling to brasil, tonight was the Second time that I had a girl want to suck my dick with a condom. To say I was annoyed is an understatement. I normally pay 200-250 R for a Mabs girl but this female was steadfast on 300 R. Reluctantly I gave in because she has a big booty. I explained to her that "I had been in Brasil for over a month and that sometimes it is difficult to cum because you become desensitized with condom use, so I needed a girl who really new how to suck dick so I could bust". She just nodded her head.

When we got in the room, before she even got naked, she asked where my rubbers were. I thought that was kinda strange but didn't say anything. Sat on the side of the bed and opened the condom. I said "Ummm, you are not going to try and suck my dick with a condom are you?" She told me she ONLY does it with a condom.

Trying to keep my cool, I said "didn't you hear what I said at Mabs about me needing a blow job master?" Her response was textbook "I heard what you said but you didn't specifically ASK me if I did it without a condom!" I just looked at her, smiled and asked her to pick up the money from the dresser and leave. I never thought that in Rio de Janeiro, I would actually have to ask a fucking hoe if she uses a condom for BJs. This isn't fucking Sosua, DR, it shouldn't even be a question!

I plain blasting her picture of the different sites I am a member of, so guys will know what they are getting into before they take her back to the room (Before you guys ask, I payed her so the problem would go away. Trust me, I felt like throwing her out, but for 60 bucks its not worth the potential hassle f dealing with police!

Questner
07-24-21, 02:27
I've posted a live link to the government agency monitoring the beaches. I suggest anyone who stays in Rio bookmark and loads this page every time they're going to the beach, because things change daily.

https://praialimpa.net

You really need to check it daily. I. e. Today it seems all Copa and Ipa beaches are clean, while Barra is 50:50, but it's not always this way. I even see that a Botafogo beach today (Marqus de Olinda) is shown as clean. Maybe you shouldn't fully trust this resource (I probably still wouldn't go into the water in Botafogo), but it's better then flying blind, I think.I have all of them mapped in Google Earth. Some beaches will always be a no go because of geography, usually near a river or a channel from the inland into the ocean.

Exec Talent
07-24-21, 03:11
I have all of them mapped in Google Earth. Some beaches will always be a no go because of geography, usually near a river or a channel from the inland into the ocean.Al this talk of water is making me thirsty.

We haven't had a report on the price of Cocos lately.

StarGazer101
07-24-21, 07:19
When I stayed there (was a long time ago), I brought in different girls on different nights. It was different girls, but it was only one girl per day / night on my two-person reservation, and there were no "chica fees". And of course the location in Copa is great if you want to be in Copa..Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a lot of girl friendly hotels around, at least very few listed online that I can find. The only other nice looking option I found was Promenade Princess, but it was fully booked.

I would appreciate any advice on girl friendly hotes. Preferably close to the beach, but most importantly in a safe area where I can walt to close by bars or restaurants at night.

JoeRoc
07-24-21, 09:00
I plain blasting her picture of the different sites I am a member of, so guys will know what they are getting into before they take her back to the room.What other Rio sites you are apart of? I am planning a trip for memorial day 2022 and I am trying to get as much info as I can before I go. I tried PMing you but your message box was full.

Vagabundo1
07-24-21, 14:01
Barra is always clean.

Even leblon and Ipanema is bisected by a shit river of sewage.

Not to start another high class. Feud but I swim in the clean water of Barra posto 6 and 7 weekly.


I have all of them mapped in Google Earth. Some beaches will always be a no go because of geography, usually near a river or a channel from the inland into the ocean.

Turgid
07-24-21, 15:29
... I never thought that in Rio de Janeiro, I would actually have to ask a fucking hoe if she uses a condom for BJs. This isn't fucking Sosua, DR, it shouldn't even be a question!...I have had similar experiences with a bitchy attitude to go with it many in Sosua as you rightfully pointed out. In such circumstances I have a bit of difficulty getting an erection. However, I always try to get hard and bang her for as much time as the agreed to payment allows. I cannot ever recall allowing her to leave with the money with no attempt to consumate. That would make me too angry.

The Cane
07-24-21, 17:33
Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a lot of girl friendly hotels around, at least very few listed online that I can find. The only other nice looking option I found was Promenade Princess, but it was fully booked.

I would appreciate any advice on girl friendly hotels. Preferably close to the beach, but most importantly in a safe area where I can walt to close by bars or restaurants at night.I have stayed there as well, but stopped because the scene on that end dried up (mainly Help, Puta Praia, L'uomo). Accommodations were decent, but on the more expensive side.

Bravo
07-24-21, 18:23
If it's not an overnight, do you still have to pay?I didn't have to pay a fee if she came over during the day or evening and left. Only if she stayed all night. SO you can have multipole females come visit but they just can't sleep over unless you want to pay the 80 R.

Member #4729
07-24-21, 19:24
In 20+ years of traveling to brasil, tonight was the Second time that I had a girl want to suck my dick with a condom. To say I was annoyed is an understatement. I normally pay 200-250 R for a Mabs girl but this female was steadfast on 300 R. Reluctantly I gave in because she has a big booty. I explained to her that "I had been in Brasil for over a month and that sometimes it is difficult to cum because you become desensitized with condom use, so I needed a girl who really new how to suck dick so I could bust". She just nodded her head.

When we got in the room, before she even got naked, she asked where my rubbers were. I thought that was kinda strange but didn't say anything. Sat on the side of the bed and opened the condom. I said "Ummm, you are not going to try and suck my dick with a condom are you?" She told me she ONLY does it with a condom.

Trying to keep my cool, I said "didn't you hear what I said at Mabs about me needing a blow job master?" Her response was textbook "I heard what you said but you didn't specifically ASK me if I did it without a condom!" I just looked at her, smiled and asked her to pick up the money from the dresser and leave. I never thought that in Rio de Janeiro, I would actually have to ask a fucking hoe if she uses a condom for BJs. This isn't fucking Sosua, DR, it shouldn't even be a question!

I plain blasting her picture of the different sites I am a member of, so guys will know what they are getting into before they take her back to the room (Before you guys ask, I payed her so the problem would go away. Trust me, I felt like throwing her out, but for 60 bucks its not worth the potential hassle f dealing with police!What a nightmare! Try going to the Cocal Casino in Jaco, Costa Rica if you want a real horror show. The only girls there that will BBBJ are 35 year olds with severe baby damage and bad teeth. I'm currently in Colombia where it's not quite as bad as CR, but this has been a real struggle. Curiously-Colombia lovers just shrug and deal with it. I'm not sure how anyone could ever enjoy a covered blowjob unless maybe it was your first blowjob.

TuneFor
07-24-21, 19:41
I have stayed there as well, but stopped because the scene on that end dried up (mainly Help, Puta Praia, L'uomo). Accommodations were decent, but on the more expensive side.If you txt then and ask 95% of time you will get no as answer.

Just do it without asking.

Written "rules" and in reality is never the same.

Rent for 1-2 nights and see how it goes.

WyattEarp
07-24-21, 21:29
What a nightmare! Try going to the Cocal Casino in Jaco, Costa Rica if you want a real horror show. The only girls there that will BBBJ are 35 year olds with severe baby damage and bad teeth.Jaco wasn't bad before things exploded. There were always a few attractive, young girls floating around at Cocal and the disco. They weren't hardcore because they didn't seem too concerned with scoring a P4 P guy. You had to buy them drinks and dance with them before you asked them to come back to your hotel.

My buddies and I were at the Beatle Bar early in the evening. A group of cute girls were shooting baskets at an inside hoop. We try to start a conversation and get in on the game. No way Jose! Not going to happen. The girls wanted to hang with the girls. Long story short, by chance we met them at the disco and we're partying like Beatle Bar never happened. We took home three of them back to Cocal for the night.

Xpartan
07-24-21, 21:30
Barra is always clean.

Even leblon and Ipanema is bisected by a shit river of sewage.

Not to start another high class. Feud but I swim in the clean water of Barra posto 6 and 7 weekly.Sometimes you can see if the water is unclean and dangerous. Other times you can't, which is why there are specialized labs where water samples are analyzed and recommendations are issued on a daily basis. If anything, I would take the LNEA suggestions as basic and minimal, as in if they say impropria, don't swim there.

Vagabundo1
07-24-21, 21:52
5.99 r.

Mundial.

Copa.


Al this talk of water is making me thirsty.

We haven't had a report on the price of Cocos lately.

Questner
07-25-21, 00:52
Al this talk of water is making me thirsty.

We haven't had a report on the price of Cocos lately.Cocô is a big business in agriculture. Reading reports on it needs acquired taste.
Knowing the quality of the beach close to your hotel (one of the basic travel information we share) is important for visitors who love the ocean.

Vagabundo1
07-25-21, 02:54
Bravo did the right thing. 60 is not worth a conflict with the cops.

That said, here is my immediate action.

I have a GoPro in a scuba housing with a lanyard. If things go south with a girl in the room, I put the camera around the neck. The necklace case for a cell phone accomplishes the same thing; one can be bought at decathlon.

If things go south, I immediately start filming the situation.

Then of course, just get dressed. But the reason this situation is so bad, is you are literally naked, expecting a BBBJ, and the covered BJ always kills it.

Bravo is a good man and we wish him better sex with the next provider; good to hear from senhor Zebrastripes.


What a nightmare! Try going to the Cocal Casino in Jaco, Costa Rica if you want a real horror show. The only girls there that will BBBJ are 35 year olds with severe baby damage and bad teeth. I'm currently in Colombia where it's not quite as bad as CR, but this has been a real struggle. Curiously-Colombia lovers just shrug and deal with it. I'm not sure how anyone could ever enjoy a covered blowjob unless maybe it was your first blowjob.

Vagabundo1
07-25-21, 02:56
I went into centro and linked up with JimmyBoy99.

We hit some prives, and had a good time.

Then we hit copa, where the 7 amigos from this week linked up across from the Marriot. The agro pan handlers really are a downer. We headed over to Solarium. I had an excellent dinner at the sushi place across from Solarium with another monger, while the majority of the patrol went up in Solarium.

All is well in Rio.

Rio Bob
07-25-21, 15:12
Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a lot of girl friendly hotels around, at least very few listed online that I can find. The only other nice looking option I found was Promenade Princess, but it was fully booked.

I would appreciate any advice on girl friendly hotes. Preferably close to the beach, but most importantly in a safe area where I can walt to close by bars or restaurants at night.Just off the top of my head look at the Porto Bay hotel which is dead center where the girls and bars are in Copacabana. Other hotels girl friendly are Marriott and Pestana.

Exec Talent
07-25-21, 16:38
Are all you guys who routinely burn up this thread complaining about hotels not being girl-friendly the same guys who are running around Rio in gangs acting like the fat kid who has been left alone in the candy shop? Or worse, and now thinks he owns it.

Grow up. Act like adults and you will not have an issue. I never have in all the years and months at a time staying at hotels all over Rio had one girl-friendly hotel issue.

Act like someone with something to hide and that you can't be trusted and guess what? You won't be.

You guys keep beating this same horse over and over and over again instead of looking in the mirror.

Questner
07-26-21, 00:00
I read two boates were closed today by the municipality, one in Jardim and one in Barra (don't know the names). Technically boates, dance clubs and event halls should not operate at least until August 9.

Smokers Rule
07-26-21, 04:21
I'll be coming to Rio with friends, including an attractive and very open minded female who is not my girlfriend.

Would hate to exclude her from the fun. The plan is to do a lot of Dolce Vita / whatever Boates we can find most of the time. My understanding is that she will not be welcome in termas, right?

I assume she will have no problem getting into Casablanca/Marrakech/Mosaico and the like.

I've just never been to Rio with a woman. Any suggestions appreciated.

Lefeu
07-26-21, 04:29
...My understanding is that she will not be welcome in termas, right?...I was in a terma, fairly long time ago, and I saw an American girl partying there. Unfortunately she caused a scene at the end. She partied with 2 girls in a 3-some but would not pay the 2-girl price. She also kept arguing with the folks there, until the guys in her party stepped in and paid for her part.

Xpartan
07-26-21, 06:03
I was in a terma, fairly long time ago, and I saw an American girl partying there. Unfortunately she caused a scene at the end. She partied with 2 girls in a 3-some but would not pay the 2-girl price. She also kept arguing with the folks there, until the guys in her party stepped in and paid for her part.Interesting. Come to think about it, I remember hearing some talks about mixed days at termas many many years ago, can't tell. But even if they once did it, they stopped a long time ago.

Paratus
07-26-21, 07:39
Gentlemen, as my trip comes to an end, I want to give back to the forum in the form of a newbie's guide to Rio. Keep in mind that this guide was made for the newbie, not the experienced monger spending a long time on ground. As such, my recommendations reflect 1.) my own bias and 2.) my own perception of how to maximize one's time and experience without necessarily a big focus on saving some money. That being said. Here it is:

Pure gold here, thanks for taking the time and care to write this up. How much did risk & hassle from see-19 factor into your decision to go? And how much practical daily impact did you notice (I. E. Masks, limitations on people in venues, etc)? Appreciate your input.

Spidy
07-26-21, 08:23
I'll be coming to Rio with friends, including an attractive and very open minded female who is not my girlfriend.

Would hate to exclude her from the fun. The plan is to do a lot of Dolce Vita / whatever Boates we can find most of the time. My understanding is that she will not be welcome in termas, right?

I assume she will have no problem getting into Casablanca/Marrakech/Mosaico and the like.

I've just never been to Rio with a woman. Any suggestions appreciated.Allowing couples was a thing at a number of the termas, back-in-the-day, on certain days, but not so much these days. I'm not sure, but it may still be allowed at certain termas, just phone and ask.

If she's open minded enough to want to be your "pretend girlfriend", you could consider checking out swinging in Rio, as an option. PM (or DM) Rio Bob, he may have some helpful tips and suggestions. Or just search/read Rio Bob's many posts w/r to his cool swinging escapades.

Vagabundo1
07-26-21, 13:19
The dream woman is a lesbian or bi rich girl who likes going to Rio de Janeiro to fuck women too. Where do I find a woman like that?


Allowing couples was a thing at a number of the termas, back-in-the-day, on certain days, but not so much these days. I'm not sure, but it may still be allowed at certain termas, just phone and ask.

If she's open minded enough to want to be your "pretend girlfriend", you could consider checking out swinging in Rio, as an option. PM (or DM) Rio Bob, he may have some helpful tips and suggestions. Or just search/read Rio Bob's many posts w/r to his cool swinging escapades.

Yossarian
07-26-21, 17:36
What a nightmare! Try going to the Cocal Casino in Jaco, Costa Rica if you want a real horror show. The only girls there that will BBBJ are 35 year olds with severe baby damage and bad teeth. I'm currently in Colombia where it's not quite as bad as CR, but this has been a real struggle. Curiously-Colombia lovers just shrug and deal with it. I'm not sure how anyone could ever enjoy a covered blowjob unless maybe it was your first blowjob.Yeah, Bogota is funny like that -- even with prepagos and "normal" girls. I think it has more to do with them having sex with a foreigner, aka sex-tourist, than anything else. I guarantee you they are not covering up like that for their local men for the most part.

Spidy
07-26-21, 20:12
The dream woman is a lesbian or bi rich girl who likes going to Rio de Janeiro to fuck women too. Where do I find a woman like that?Agreed, that mash-up of sexual diversity, does sound like fun. Lots of fun!

I wish I had an interesting story or two about "a lesbian, a rich girl and a straight guy flying to Rio...", or some such similar story I could share, but I haven't been that lucky...yet.

Let's hope, Smokers Rule, is able to provide us with a story (or two) and report back some of his exploits, should he get lucky on his quest.

Member #4698
07-27-21, 05:35
I never have in all the years and months at a time staying at hotels all over Rio had one girl-friendly hotel issue.

Act like someone with something to hide and that you can't be trusted and guess what? You won't be. This is interesting.

On my spring visit I stayed at 3 more or less 5* hotels in RJ. Before I arrived, I had inquired by Email about the respective hotel policies concerning ST invited girls. The Hyatt and the Fasano informed me that there were no extra charges for 1 girl per day. The Fairmont told me that I would be charged 250 br plus tax per girl if you can believe that! I stayed at the Fairmont for 3 nights anyway because I had Accor points and I figured I would be fine with the Terma girls and thus not need to bring a girl back to my room.

Then when I arrived in Brazil, RJ was in lockdown mode and all the Termas were closed, so I bit the bullet and invited over a couple of Barra VIP girls on two separate nights to the Fairmont. I tried to bring the 1st girl up to my room without registering her at the front desk, but sure enough hotel security noticed us, and the girl had to show her ID and get registered. Obviously, I was not too happy with the Fairmont's stated guest policy, but to my surprise I was not charged for either girl when I checked out, so I have no idea what the Fairmont's policy really is. Your post might explain their girly policy and why I was treated well, although I would not bet money on it. LOL.

The Fasano and the Hyatt were girl friendly to me from the get go as well as for other hotel guests and over the length of my stay at both hotels I saw a number of call girls come and go in addition to my girls. I had the same experience at the two hotels I stayed at in SP IE they were guest friendly, no extra charges. In fact, on 2 nights in a row, I met a couple of hookers having drinks and looking for customers at the SP Renaissance lobby bar. It felt like home.

But IMHO, a truly girl friendly hotel does not care how many girls a guest may bring back to his room on any occasion and leaves registering them or not registering them totally up to the guest. I do like my threesomes so I am thinking probable advantage Bangkok, Jakarta, and MNL over RJ & SP, but I will see what happens on my next visit to Brazil when I put on my Marcello Mastroianni persona and act like I own the place with a couple girls hanging by my side. It should be fun.

Vagabundo1
07-27-21, 06:01
There is a new DJ coming to 4 x 4 -- DJ Gringo, aka, Vagabundo.

Stay tuned!

I had a great time guest DJ'ing and dancing with the girls at 4 x4. I gladly paid the 50 r cover for the zoomba class with women I can fuck as opposed to pussy prison, and for the sauna, and the lawn chairs, and the WiFi. I need to go back and just work on my podcast and VLog materials there with Adobe premire and additions.

The new find of the day is darkroom.com.br, a new or sort of new prive with some awesome negra talent.

Earlier in the day, I went to some of the usual prives and banged the usual suspect written about often here. It was as good or better than ever. Thank god prostitution is legal in this libertine country. Fuck the puritans!

Smokers Rule
07-27-21, 06:07
Where do I find a woman like that?Perhaps we should meet when I'm in town.

Vagabundo1
07-27-21, 06:34
PM me.

You need to clear out your messages.


Perhaps we should meet when I'm in town.

Vagabundo1
07-27-21, 06:47
I appreciate the information.

However, I can see from driving that there is no major sewage outlet in Barra, in contrast to the shit river between Leblon and Ipanema, and I've felt the layer of shit in the harbor at Copacabana and further inside G bay, I've felt it and smelt it be more potent when the water is warmer. That along with the agro pan handlers is why I was happy to move out of Copa.

We 7 ISG bros were out on Saturday, and this POS sales **** goes up to our group, and won't take no for an answer. Every no just means the asshole says something like, "oh, are you Vasco (looking at my mask)" and ' you must be extra large". Until I along with Gato1 say, "get the fuck out of here" and "melhor vc vai emorra" and Gato1 actually starts calling for police. At which point POS salesman goes up to Klebber, a POS with a criminal record, and starts loudly complaining about us, and saying, "this is not your country" as if we are obliged to give this jerk money.

You never get that in Barra. They don't allow it. The Gaucho-esque culture of Barra is more like the expat Germans of Porto Allegre who don't tolerate the dirty water and agro pan handlers of Copa. For me, a part German, this makes a lot of difference. I hate that shit.

I can see how bad water gets out in Barra Posto 1, since there is a big river of sorts that empties out there. I can see how that might happen closer to Barra Shopping, where there might be some of that, or out towards Recreio. But where I live there is like zero chance of major pollution of the ocean. Maybe there is, but I can go swim a half mile without checking any website, which is why I live here. It's comparable to La Jolla or Hawaii as a place for ocean swimming.

The key may be to get to some of the surf / swim / yoga schools at the beach in Barra, like the Ecolounge. Which are great places to pull no pro pussy.


Sometimes you can see if the water is unclean and dangerous. Other times you can't, which is why there are specialized labs where water samples are analyzed and recommendations are issued on a daily basis. If anything, I would take the LNEA suggestions as basic and minimal, as in if they say impropria, don't swim there.

TravelGuy79
07-27-21, 16:34
Is there a map of different termas someone can post the link to? I'll be there in November. I know I'd the five or six major ones but can't find info on the smaller ones. Thanks!

Steve 9696
07-27-21, 19:32
There is a new DJ coming to 4 x 4 -- DJ Gringo, aka, Vagabundo.

Stay tuned!

I had a great time guest DJ'ing and dancing with the girls at 4 x4. I gladly paid the 50 r cover for the zoomba class with women I can fuck as opposed to pussy prison, and for the sauna, and the lawn chairs, and the WiFi. I need to go back and just work on my podcast and VLog materials there with Adobe premire and additions.

The new find of the day is darkroom.com.br, a new or sort of new prive with some awesome negra talent.

Earlier in the day, I went to some of the usual prives and banged the usual suspect written about often here. It was as good or better than ever. Thank god prostitution is legal in this libertine country. Fuck the puritans!Couldn't agree more. Fuck the Puritans. Love this quote from HL Mencken. Just soooo true:

"Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy," LOL. I still laugh every time I read it.

Xpartan
07-27-21, 20:30
We 7 ISG bros were out on Saturday, and this POS sales **** goes up to our group, and won't take no for an answer. Every no just means the asshole says something like, "oh, are you Vasco (looking at my mask)" and ' you must be extra large". Until I along with Gato1 say, "get the fuck out of here" and "melhor vc vai emorra" and Gato1 actually starts calling for police. At which point POS salesman goes up to Klebber, a POS with a criminal record, and starts loudly complaining about us, and saying, "this is not your country" as if we are obliged to give this jerk money.I would expect it in Cartagena, but Rio? In over 20 years I've never experienced anything like that. Quite the contrary, panhandlers in Copa used to be quiet and content with whatever they were getting, not unlike their brethren in New York. Street peddlers could be a bit pushy, but there were certain humor and politeness about them, making interactions with them almost fun (to me at least). Things must've gotten really shitty down there.

P.S. Who or what is Klebber?

Steve Ohh
07-27-21, 22:26
Hi guys,

Does anybody can recommend any online sources in Rio. I'm planing a trip right now.

The only one I know is https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/.

Does Tinder, Badoo etc work pretty well?

Thanks guys.

Anaggie
07-27-21, 23:40
There is a new DJ coming to 4 x 4 -- DJ Gringo, aka, Vagabundo.

Stay tuned!

I had a great time guest DJ'ing and dancing with the girls at 4 x4. I gladly paid the 50 r cover for the zoomba class with women I can fuck as opposed to pussy prison, and for the sauna, and the lawn chairs, and the WiFi. I need to go back and just work on my podcast and VLog materials there with Adobe premire and additions.

The new find of the day is darkroom.com.br, a new or sort of new prive with some awesome negra talent.

Earlier in the day, I went to some of the usual prives and banged the usual suspect written about often here. It was as good or better than ever. Thank god prostitution is legal in this libertine country. Fuck the puritans!You going to be the DJ next Wednesday night? I should be there with my agent.

Xpartan
07-28-21, 07:01
Hi guys,

Does anybody can recommend any online sources in Rio. I'm planing a trip right now.

The only one I know is https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/.

Does Tinder, Badoo etc work pretty well?

Thanks guys.PA is an advertising site. Everyone can pay and advertise there. Some scammers, some gems, and everything in between. You just don't know.

The only source you (and everyone else) needs in Rio is gparena. Seriously.

Jingo10
07-28-21, 13:04
Hi guys,


Does Tinder, Badoo etc work pretty well?

Thanks guys.These platforms produced nothing for me, as mentioned gparena is the go to resource. But altho there is some B&S on PA it is sometimes worth the gamble for the price being paid, just walk if you are not happy. I've had a couple of bait & switch which turned into nice sessions. Sometimes 3 girls work out of one apartment and I think use one profile. For 150/200 reais it's not a problem if it doesn't work out. Especially in Copa if you can't be bothered going to Centro.