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Admin
01-01-01, 02:00
Thank you, Jackson.

We now return to the original ISG Forum with the purpose for which it was created.Thanks, for sure. The poorman evidently never got the chance to unload on his Top sargeant, tell him all about the and-word, and Mark Twain, so in order to get off, he dumps it here.

Rio is Over. It was a fun place once upon a time. If all there is to say now is what happened in 40-minutes in a cabin with a flat-backer than what's here has become nothing more than a circle jerk. (note: four times in Rio last year, most recently December)

Jake993
12-31-08, 17:39
Hi Guys,

It has been about a year since I was in Rio and I normally stay a few nights in an Apt so taking GDP's from help is not an issue, this time however I will only stay one night hence a hotel is the only option. Does anyone know of a decent girl friendly hotel that does not charge an arm and a leg for that special overnight friend? I have stayed a the Sheraton before and they were cool but I am looking for somewhere coll and closer to Copa. I will be overnighting on 1/18 if any other member want to meet up and go on the prowl.

BA http://www.promenade.com.br Click on the British flag for English. I have stayed in the Visconti in Ipanema many times and the night staff is very professional about the whole thing. If your guest leaves before 7:00 AM, you can expect a call from the front desk to check and see if everything is ok.

I have also stayed in a few of their Belo Horizonte hotels but no others in Rio. I have heard that the Leblon locations are great but don't know anything about their hotel in Copa.

Dons Bayou
12-31-08, 18:05
http://www.promenade.com.br Click on the British flag for English. I have stayed in the Visconti in Ipanema many times and the night staff is very professional about the whole thing. If your guest leaves before 7:00 AM, you can expect a call from the front desk to check and see if everything is ok.

I have also stayed in a few of their Belo Horizonte hotels but no others in Rio. I have heard that the Leblon locations are great but don't know anything about their hotel in Copa.Try The Barritz I think that is the name. It is right next door to the Rio Rioss hotel. 160 Reais very nice at the desk. I was there in November 26 also for one day. Nice new rooms. and 2 block from Help and MP.

Hitmanm3
12-31-08, 19:03
http://www.promenade.com.br Click on the British flag for English. I have stayed in the Visconti in Ipanema many times and the night staff is very professional about the whole thing. If your guest leaves before 7:00 AM, you can expect a call from the front desk to check and see if everything is ok.

I have also stayed in a few of their Belo Horizonte hotels but no others in Rio. I have heard that the Leblon locations are great but don't know anything about their hotel in Copa.You are sure that this place is girl friendly and their will be no problem with bringing a girl over? What if you are planning to stay a month is it a good idea to stay at this location or should I rent an apartment? I really like staying away from the copa scene until it is time to play if you catch my drift. Less drama.

TummySangs
12-31-08, 20:45
Can this happen in Brazil? I have read so many posts but all of them end at BBBJ but have not seen any where the girls seem to offer BBBJCIM etc.

JohnnyBraz
01-02-09, 00:13
Has anyone used this for renting an apartment?
http://www.rioapartments.com

They seem to have some nice aprtments but no prices.I contacted them about a nice one bedroom apartment, they got back to me with 130 us per night for 21 nights. I thought it was a bit high. Managed to get something better and 2 bedrooms for 80 us per night, direct with one off the owners off luxuary 1/2 bed apartments that I know in Rio.

Sunset Strip
01-02-09, 00:14
Hi Guys,

It has been about a year since I was in Rio and I normally stay a few nights in an Apt so taking GDP's from help is not an issue, this time however I will only stay one night hence a hotel is the only option. Does anyone know of a decent girl friendly hotel that does not charge an arm and a leg for that special overnight friend? I have stayed a the Sheraton before and they were cool but I am looking for somewhere coll and closer to Copa. I will be overnighting on 1/18 if any other member want to meet up and go on the prowl.

BA


Post this question in the Rio apartment/hotel thread to get more responses.

TJ

Ryjerrob
01-02-09, 00:34
After being stranded in Atlanta dur to missing my connection, I finally made it. Initally I dropped my stuff off in Laranjeiras, took care of some business in Centro, then headed to ground zero.

I´ve been told that I just missed a stint of 3-4 day of rain, but now it´s hot, and muggy. I ended up at Meia Pataca foir a couple of hours just taking it all in. Being relatively early, there wasn´t much to see. I studied the other people had a quick sandwich, then hit the beach. All I could think was that it was fucking hot.

I had a cpuple of beers but didn´t want to sit too long. Afterwards, I headed back to MP. I ended up sitting with Jane aka Brtty Boop. Damn she can talk alot. Do I care that she´s excited about doing a porno with some guy, hell no. But, her friend was cute, so I stayed.

After a few drinks, I moticed something was starting to stir in me. There was this girl, I don´t remember her name, but she an 8 in my book. We ended up going to the Vanity Hotel, cost R$70. I don´t know the time limit, but it was a waste.

While I am told that I am big by women, I never really thought about it before. Well, in this case, it worked against me. She gave a terrible bbbj, and I was limited to only a couple of positions. Neither offered deep peneration. The deeper I tried to go, the worst the experience got. I just wanted it to be over. I forced myself to finish, and we both went back to MP.

We sat at the same table as before, but there was another American there, and 3 more girls. The girl I had been with had a sister that just happened to be sitting at the table. We all laughed and drank, and Jane became louder. There was this girl I had been waiting form who showed up at 7:30ish. I suggesrewd we hit Lapa, then the motel. She had to be home at 10. That´s bullshit.

I was looking for something for the nightm but she couldn´t stay. I gave her R$50 and sent her on her way. Of course I was told I should´ve given her more but that was bullshit. She got more than she deserved. But, I was being nice.

Then came Thalita, she was also sitting at the same table. She was cute, small breasts, but a great smile and personality. She claims to have worked at Lumos, but I didn´t really care. She was a pro. She did things to me that were just crazy. I really appreciate those celling mirrors that come in the room. She said I could take pics but didn´t have my camera with me. I will repeat and show pics later.

The plan for tonight is Help, and doing a threesome. I´m looking forward to it. I will offer more detailed report one I get the bugs worked out with my schedule.

Centro Casas
VM
Termas
Party at VIP´s
Meet my next exwife.


ryjer

Hughdad
01-02-09, 01:05
Was there back in July. Had great times in several of the termas and some independents from Hotside website. If you are planning on being there during this time - perhaps we can grab a drink.

Can't wait. Happy New Years

Jamaicanceo
01-02-09, 02:32
after being stranded in atlanta dur to missing my connection, i finally made it. initally i dropped my stuff off in laranjeiras, took care of some business in centro, then headed to ground zero.

i've been told that i just missed a stint of 3-4 day of rain, but now it's hot, and muggy. i ended up at meia pataca foir a couple of hours just taking it all in. being relatively early, there wasn't much to see. i studied the other people had a quick sandwich, then hit the beach. all i could think was that it was fucking hot.

i had a cpuple of beers but didn't want to sit too long. afterwards, i headed back to mp. i ended up sitting with jane aka brtty boop. damn she can talk alot. do i care that she's excited about doing a porno with some guy, hell no. but, her friend was cute, so i stayed.

after a few drinks, i moticed something was starting to stir in me. there was this girl, i don't remember her name, but she an 8 in my book. we ended up going to the vanity hotel, cost r$70. i don't know the time limit, but it was a waste.

while i am told that i am big by women, i never really thought about it before. well, in this case, it worked against me. she gave a terrible bbbj, and i was limited to only a couple of positions. neither offered deep peneration. the deeper i tried to go, the worst the experience got. i just wanted it to be over. i forced myself to finish, and we both went back to mp.

we sat at the same table as before, but there was another american there, and 3 more girls. the girl i had been with had a sister that just happened to be sitting at the table. we all laughed and drank, and jane became louder. there was this girl i had been waiting form who showed up at 7:30ish. i suggesrewd we hit lapa, then the motel. she had to be home at 10. that's bullshit.

i was looking for something for the nightm but she couldn't stay. i gave her r$50 and sent her on her way. of course i was told i should've given her more but that was bullshit. she got more than she deserved. but, i was being nice.

then came thalita, she was also sitting at the same table. she was cute, small breasts, but a great smile and personality. she claims to have worked at lumos, but i didn't really care. she was a pro. she did things to me that were just crazy. i really appreciate those celling mirrors that come in the room. she said i could take pics but didn't have my camera with me. i will repeat and show pics later.

the plan for tonight is help, and doing a threesome. i'm looking forward to it. i will offer more detailed report one i get the bugs worked out with my schedule.

centro casas
vm
termas
party at vip´s
meet my next exwife.

ryjerglad you made it safe. i am a delta flyer. why the delay in atlanta? have a good time. i've beem back in california from rio 17 days, and i am already looking for tickets for march.

are you in a hotel or apartment? i am considering a hotel next time. apartments are too hit and miss.

here's the weather forecast from now to monday.

t-storms early-tonight
high: 83°
low: 73°

pm t-storms-tomorrow
high: 82°
low: 73°

rep001tered t-storms-saturday
high: 86°
low: 73°

rep001tered t-storms-sunday
high: 76°
low: 72°

showers-monday
high: 75°
low: 71°

Lorenzo
01-02-09, 04:51
Can this happen in Brazil? I have read so many posts but all of them end at BBBJ but have not seen any where the girls seem to offer BBBJCIM etc.
Yes, frequently. This is the type of thing that should be negotiated before committing to the girl. Negotiate, negotiate, negotiate!

Ryjerrob
01-02-09, 14:36
Ended up back at MP where I ran into the same American from the previous night. Shared war stories from the night before, and he took notes about my ex-termas girl. I really missed her skills last night.

After spending the day at the beach, where I took some video, I ended up at Help. While this was not my thought, I went with my new friend. We drank 2 bottles of Jose Cuervo, and I was feeling it. DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!! After watching the ladies, I decided on yet another spinner type.

She called herself Nadia, and said she was from Bahia. She was a 8, with a great smile. I kept telling her she was the queen of my heart. Ended up spending the night with her at Vanity. We fucked, and I ate the hell outta that buceta. We then ordered some food, and fell asleep.

In the morning, she went on an on about me snoring. I tried to warn her. We then watched the spicy hot channel, and fucked like rabbits. She offered many words of encouragement, but hell, after a night of drinking, it wasn´t going to happen anytime soon. Got her number, and made plans to meet later. Of course, I´m interviewing this sweet young thing from brazilcupid today.

All in all, I´m starting to get into the groove. Stay tuned for more

On a personal not.............why would a chick offer to fuck me with a strap-on??? Sounds pretty sick. EXIT ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ryjer

Bizzie
01-03-09, 06:14
Are you in a hotel or apartment? I am considering a hotel next time. Apartments are too hit and miss.


Are you serious? Pretty much everyone here favors an apartment over a hotel.

Pune Fun
01-03-09, 09:25
I will be visiting rio for first time,

I have seen a lot of reports on help disco, is it safe to pick gals from help.

How are help gals in term of service,whats the avg. price for night and any good girl friendly hotel near help disco.

Koolkid
01-03-09, 15:21
Does anyone know if the big butt Porn Star Luana makes herself available in Rio? If so, contact info would be great! Also looking for Monica Santiago, Sumaya or Bruna Ferraz.

RodeoI heard that the porn star who goes by the name darlene was available at 4x4 last year, not sure about luana, but I would imagine that she would be very busy if she worked the termas, because that bunda and body is just crazy!

Jamaicanceo
01-03-09, 15:30
Are you serious? Pretty much everyone here favors an apartment over a hotel.Based on what I went through with my apartment stays, the managers had no options if something went wrong. If a hotel room had an issue with furniture or plumbing, for example, hotels will likey have other rooms to relocate you. My last apartment had a major plumbing leak, and the rental service did't have suiable options. So I was stuck with workers in my apartment, and water leaking on my bathroom floor. They only had one apartment to show me, and it wasn't a great move. Plus when I first got the apartment, there wasn't enough towels and sheets. I spent $280.00 of my money for extra linen, and it would've been too costly to take them home, so I had to leave the extra linen with the manager and hopefully use them again on my next trip.

So I scouted out a few hotels at or near Ave Atlantica. It's worth a try on my next trip. And the double occupancy for female guests doesn't seem too expensive for me.

David68
01-03-09, 16:46
I will be visiting rio for first time,

I have seen a lot of reports on help disco, is it safe to pick gals from help.

How are help gals in term of service,whats the avg. price for night and any good girl friendly hotel near help disco.You're gonna get a few replies to these unfamiliar questions.

Oakwood99
01-03-09, 17:11
I will be visiting rio for first time,

I have seen a lot of reports on help disco, is it safe to pick gals from help.

How are help gals in term of service,whats the avg. price for night and any good girl friendly hotel near help disco.Are you serious?

Gfechaser
01-03-09, 18:18
I will be visiting rio for first time,

I have seen a lot of reports on help disco, is it safe to pick gals from help.

How are help gals in term of service,whats the avg. price for night and any good girl friendly hotel near help disco.I almost got taken when I chose a girl from help. Luckily I used the advice touted in Bubba Boy's guide and avoided a possible negative situation. Nevertheless, not all the girls in Help are bad seeds. There are many a monger that have had good experiences with girls from help. Try to think logically and follow the advice of experienced mongers on this board and you will be fine.

Watchman4400
01-03-09, 18:44
Are you in a hotel or apartment? I am considering a hotel next time. Apartments are too hit and miss.


Instead of doing something like staying in an Hotel why don't you find out from some people on the board what apartments are good so it will not be hit or miss. It is ok to stay in an apartment if you are just going to go to Termas. But if you are going to be bringing girls to you place an Apartment is a must. The prefer the apartments, which mean they stay longer, which means you have more happy time!

If you need some apartment recommendations just send me a PM, I have a few guys that are solid and their apartments are all top notch.

Watchman4400
01-03-09, 18:55
I will be visiting rio for first time,

I have seen a lot of reports on help disco, is it safe to pick gals from help.

How are help gals in term of service,whats the avg. price for night and any good girl friendly hotel near help disco.


Pure,

You will get as many different opinions on your questions as there are people on the board. There are those that never go to Help and there are those that only go to Help. You will have to go and try out all the different types of places and you will have a favorite of your own. Personally, I love Termas but I prefer Help or Barbarella. I prefer to spend the night with the girls because then I get more happy time.

My advice, for what it is worth, would be to try out a couple of nice Termas and go to Help and try that out. At Help, don't pick to early, never let them pick you, you pick them and make sure you negotiate up front for what you want. You will pick all the tricks of the trade with experience.

Happy Hunting

Bimbo Boy
01-03-09, 19:08
Are you serious? Pretty much everyone here favors an apartment over a hotel.
Well, I agree with Jamaicanceo, apartments in Rio are not to the standard that one would expect in a rich country. I prefer to stay in a very nice hotel or pousada and pay the girl's fee. In case of a problem with the girl ((which never happened to me), I feel safe because the front desk has her ID card, and checks out with me if all is well before she can have it back.
I would only consider an appartment if travelling with a bunch of male friends, and we rent a really luxury one of several thousand square feet.
B.B.

Dima25
01-03-09, 23:22
Hey guys,

Is Help still open, and whats the going rate these days?

Gfechaser
01-03-09, 23:36
Augusto Hotel is the one that I like. It is a block away from the subway station, has a fitness room, and is conveniently located a short distance from the beach. You can even walk to L'uomo if you are so inclined.

My daily routine comprised of waking up, working out, grabbing some juice and maybe a sandwich at the corner store and then heading to a terma.

Bizzie
01-04-09, 02:08
Well, I agree with Jamaicanceo, apartments in Rio are not to the standard that one would expect in a rich country. I prefer to stay in a very nice hotel or pousada and pay the girl's fee. In case of a problem with the girl ((which never happened to me), I feel safe because the front desk has her ID card, and checks out with me if all is well before she can have it back.
I would only consider an appartment if travelling with a bunch of male friends, and we rent a really luxury one of several thousand square feet.
B.B.

Well, I thought that a luxury apartment was implicit.
For the price of a nice hotel room, you can get equally nice or better, spacious, apartment, with security at the entrance who keep the GDPs ID card before entry. (I have doen that 3 times).
But I have stayed at the hotels as well and that was fine too (but cramped).

Jamaicanceo
01-04-09, 02:17
Well, I thought that a luxury apartment was implicit.

For the price of a nice hotel room, you can get equally nice or better, spacious, apartment, with security at the entrance who keep the GDPs ID card before entry. (I have doen that 3 times).

But I have stayed at the hotels as well and that was fine too (but cramped).
Ok, I know this isn't the forum for accommodations, but could you refer who you use?

Rodeo9112
01-04-09, 04:54
I heard that the porn star who goes by the name darlene was available at 4x4 last year, not sure about luana, but I would imagine that she would be very busy if she worked the termas, because that bunda and body is just crazy!Dude,

I think if I saw Darlene, and she was available, I would probably just pass out right there.

Rodeo

Doc Simp
01-04-09, 06:45
My input: Nice hotels with the willingness to have decent ID checks etc are not in the heart of the action and the ones that are in or near won't allow guests. Aparthotels are the practical compromise between luxury hotel v pricing v amenities such as avail of rooms, linen, etc.

Carlos Primeros
01-04-09, 18:49
Hey Rob,

Where is part 3 of the eagle-stories?

Carlos

Azn Safado
01-05-09, 00:25
Well, I thought that a luxury apartment was implicit.
For the price of a nice hotel room, you can get equally nice or better, spacious, apartment, with security at the entrance who keep the GDPs ID card before entry. (I have doen that 3 times).
But I have stayed at the hotels as well and that was fine too (but cramped).
If you're going to Rio for a mongering trip, there is going to be a bit of downtime, so I think an apartment is the better option. It's a place you can go back and chill, without the feeling of getting "cabin fever" that you might get being couped up in a hotel room after awhile. Staying at an apartment also gives the feeling of "living in Rio", which is pretty damn cool.

Off Road
01-06-09, 00:48
Hey guys,

Is Help still open, and whats the going rate these days?Still open, and even remodeling inside. Putting in new stairs to upstairs near the stage area. Rates for girls are the same as always. R$100 and up, depending on looks, time and your skills for barganing.

Bizzie
01-06-09, 02:51
if you're going to rio for a mongering trip, there is going to be a bit of downtime, so i think an apartment is the better option. it's a place you can go back and chill, without the feeling of getting "cabin fever" that you might get being couped up in a hotel room after awhile. staying at an apartment also gives the feeling of "living in rio", which is pretty damn cool.
agree with you. but you may have to construct some creative web of lies for the people back home as to why you are staying in an apartment and not a hotel!
another advantage for me is that in an apartment, they can't reach me at all hours of the night.(like at 3 am when at helpee).
i tell them there are no landlines in rio apartments, 'cause everyone here uses only cell phones:) (i can screen those calls).

Sehns
01-07-09, 00:24
Help is still open and price depends on so many variables.

the quality of the girl, the time of night, how many guys are competing for her, the level of attention she is getting, and finally how much she thinks she can take you for..

Most girls who do not have guys competing for her will go home with you for the night for R$150-R$200 if you seem nice enough, but most of the top end girls generally ask for R$500 and expect to be negotiated down to about R$250-R$300 in my experience.

The best thing to do is not ask, you tell. If you find a girl you like talk some bullshit with her, make sure your the one asking the questions.. dont let her follow you down that conversation path of "1. where are you staying 2. hotel or apartment 3. do you want to come home with me tonight 4. $myprice"

Buy her a drink which will calm her down by showing her your genuinely interested, use the length of how long it takes her to drink it to talk some bullshit then whisper something like "Ive got about $150 real left in my wallet, lets go back to my place"


Hey guys,

Is Help still open, and whats the going rate these days?

Jan 156
01-07-09, 16:27
The best thing to do is not ask, you tell. If you find a girl you like talk some bullshit with her, make sure your the one asking the questions.. dont let her follow you down that conversation path of "1. where are you staying 2. hotel or apartment 3. do you want to come home with me tonight 4. $myprice"

Buy her a drink which will calm her down by showing her your genuinely interested, use the length of how long it takes her to drink it to talk some bullshit then whisper something like "Ive got about $150 real left in my wallet, lets go back to my place"

Now there's a man with a good head for negotiation!

Hats off to the attitude. And it's not only more fun (for both parties) when you take the initiative but, if she insists on going into telesales mode you know she's too boring to bother with.

My only concern is the drinks bit. I'll buy chits that pay for beer or cola. If she has champagne tastes, she's not on. (note - in case any newbies missed it, he said real, not dollars. And if it's late in the night he'd probably maybe 'only have about 100R')

Jan 156
01-08-09, 02:41
i'd recommend this vid (http://www.revver.com/video/359809/the-underbelly-of-rio-de-janeiro-vila-mimosa/) for one thing only - it gives you an idea of the run-up if go there on the bus. as you know, rj buses have only two speeds most of the time - bone-shattering highspeed and stop. so if you jump the bus to praca bandeira (where you need to get off for mimosa) you have to be pretty quick.

the camera is shot from inside a car as it goes along pres. vargas, over the flyover, and onto pr.bandeiras. you can see that the car goes up the flyover, passes under a higher flyover, and then down again. here the car pauses in order to get into the right hand lane in praca bandeira so as to make the turn off under the iron bridge.

if you get the bus, ring the bell as it mounts the flyover. if you leave it past that point you may miss your stop.

(apart from that it is pretty sh*te - it tags vm as "one of the most dangerous and decrepit places in rio de janeiro," drives round on what looks like a sunday morning when it's near deserted, then again at night but fails to spot any action, yet does catch a couple of guys being frisked).

for anyone not familiar with vm, probably best not to go by bus the first time. also the driver in the vid goes round the triangle anticlockwise to comply with the one way system - if you're walking, you'd probably go the other way, the way he leaves the triangle and back onto bandeira.

buses save you time and money unless it's rush hour. and also the grotty walk from the metro station in cristavao (or the confusing walk from the metro in alfonso pena.)

by way of apology to anyone who sat thru it, here's a couple of slightly more atmospheric ones i found in an idle moment ;)
video of mimosa stills (complete with western idiot-music, but ok pics) (http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?sourceid=navclient&ie=utf-8&hl=en-gb&rlz=1t4snyk_en-gbgb252gb252&q=vila+mimosa#) and
noisy upstairs balcony - crap quality but atmospheric (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1421465445582047118&ei=nfllsyzhmab8ialb7dmjag&q=vila+mimosa&hl=en-gb)



whereas this one (http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=mimosa&hl=un&emb=1#q=rooftop-tour-1%20&hl=un&emb=1) has nothing to do with anything at all - maybe a tourist advert for florianopolis? (click the top left picture to save logging in heh heh) or this one (http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=mimosa&hl=un&emb=1#q=crystal-tour-1%20&hl=un&emb=1) for curitiba ;) ;)
ps hope this doesn't break isg policy - it's called stealing from greedyf*cks ;)

Exec Talent
01-08-09, 14:22
Stopped by L'uomo last night and have never seen it so slow this time of year. There were only about 12 guys there from 4-7. The dream team of Ingrid, Giselle and Nina are on vacation. Compared to other visits I would rate the talent a little above average, maybe a total of 20-25 girls.

Ryjerrob
01-08-09, 19:05
Still open, and even remodeling inside. Putting in new stairs to upstairs near the stage area. Rates for girls are the same as always. R$100 and up, depending on looks, time and your skills for barganing.

That´s about right. I was there last night for a couple of hours. Found a pyt that asked for R$200, I offered R$150, and she said yes.

ryjer

Ryjerrob
01-08-09, 19:12
Sorry I´ve been a little laxed, but I have this girlfriend that keeps tabs on me.

Here we go....................went to 185 Rio Branco yeasterday after class. I thought it was Flavia Messages, but wrote down the wrong address. Apt. #1829. There only seemed to be 1 girl workng that I saw, but the buzzer kept ringng.

She was a cute little spinner named Bruna. She had acne, but a great body, complete with fake little titties. I paid R$70 for an hour. It was money well spent. The room had a double bed, air, and was clean. The sheets and towles came pre-wrapped. I would give the place an A, the girl a B.

I will repeat, I got her number.

ryjer

Ryjerrob
01-08-09, 19:19
I usually sit in the very back of the bus, on the left side. Yesterday, someone else was sittng there, so I sat on the right side. As the bus neared Laro do Machado, I saw this sign on a pink doorway that said clube...........hmmmmmmmmmm. I wonder what that is?

I got off the bus, and it was a little dark casa up a fliight of stairs. It was a little was, and dark, but the beer was cold, and the pussy warm.

156 Rua Benito Lisboa.

I did two different girls. Thier names are unimportant. Rate were as follows:

15minutes R$30
30minutes R$50
40minutes R$70
1hour R$100

I saw this 8 come into the place wearing her street clothes. She was fine as hell. Unfortunately she had a shitty attitude. She didn´t drink or smoke. HOw can I trust a girl working in a casa who dosen´t do any of those things. My goal is to do all the girls working there. After the beach today, I´m going back.........


ryjer

Ohp1972
01-08-09, 19:25
Stopped by L'uomo last night and have never seen it so slow this time of year. There were only about 12 guys there from 4-7. The dream team of Ingrid, Giselle and Nina are on vacation. Compared to other visits I would rate the talent a little above average, maybe a total of 20-25 girls.
That's what I heard!!! Had a Amigo just get back & said the talent there wasn't to his liking!!! Not the same vibe either! But Exec Talent, He was impressed by a young & talent in Solarium.....

Exec Talent
01-09-09, 01:30
Thought I would give L'uomo another chance tonight. Again about 12 guys and only 20 girls. Good news was Ingrid is back and looking as fine as ever. Bad news is, she was pretty much it.

They must have made some kind of off season trade with MC, because when I arrived there I could not believe my eyes. In November/December I did not even bother with the place, now it is the place to be. There were 50-60 girls working and yes, some of the girls with huge butts remain, but there are a number of very fine new girls working. Extremely impressive was the variety. Blondes, fairskinned brunettes, mulattas, and even a few very dark girls. Some were new to the business others came from Centaurus. During the time I was there about 40 guys were in the house, many Brazilian. The music was all Brazilian which was nice for a change.

I will still visit L'uomo but if you are coming to Rio and avoided MC before, you have no reason now.

Do be aware that prices have increased. Entrance is still R$60 (I belong to the frequent visitor club and got in free), cabine is still R$60 but the girl's fee is now R$150 up from R$120 previously. This may be the reason that the best girls now are there.

Joe Greek
01-09-09, 02:08
I have heard numerous reports from a thread on The World Sex Guide forum that Help Club is closing in March at the latest. Seems the Brazilian government may be changing it's attitude and policies toward the GDP's and customers.

Also, How will this effect the Termas if Help goes out are they next?

I have heard that the brazilian government is spending millions on a advertising and ad campaign in Europe and other countries warning tourists not to travel to Brazil for sex. Seems Spain had a "problem" with Brazillian GDP's in their county and now it opened Pandoras Box and they (Brazil) is trying to clean up their Image into Not being the"South American Thailand. "

I have also heard stories about beaches in Brazil forbidding GDP's to "work" the beaches and some beaches have been emptied because of the governments attitude toward this.

I was planning my first trip to Rio cause I thought it would be the coolest place on Earth to Monger for Bunda, but may have a change of mind if Help closes and the government attitude/climate cracks down on the GDPs and their customers and the country as a whole loses their appetite for "tourists". I may take my 2nd trip back to a more open arms climate in Thailand if this is the new attitude brewing.

Any intel or report on this depressing developing issue? Or is it just a rumor?

Ohp1972
01-09-09, 03:42
Thought I would give L'uomo another chance tonight. Again about 12 guys and only 20 girls. Good news was Ingrid is back and looking as fine as ever. Bad news is, she was pretty much it.

They must have made some kind of off season trade with MC, because when I arrived there I could not believe my eyes. In November/December I did not even bother with the place, now it is the place to be. There were 50-60 girls working and yes, some of the girls with huge butts remain, but there are a number of very fine new girls working. Extremely impressive was the variety. Blondes, fairskinned brunettes, mulattas, and even a few very dark girls. Some were new to the business others came from Centaurus.

Another similar report from my Amigo that just got back..... Luomos was dissappointing & Monte Carlo was the place to be....

El Greco
01-09-09, 04:59
I have heard numerous reports from a thread on The World Sex Guide forum that Help Club is closing in March at the latest. Seems the Brazilian government may be changing it's attitude and policies toward the GDP's and customers.

Also, How will this effect the Termas if Help goes out are they next?

I have heard that the brazilian government is spending millions on a advertising and ad campaign in Europe and other countries warning tourists not to travel to Brazil for sex. Seems Spain had a "problem" with Brazillian GDP's in their county and now it opened Pandoras Box and they (Brazil) is trying to clean up their Image into Not being the"South American Thailand. "

I have also heard stories about beaches in Brazil forbidding GDP's to "work" the beaches and some beaches have been emptied because of the governments attitude toward this.

I was planning my first trip to Rio cause I thought it would be the coolest place on Earth to Monger for Bunda, but may have a change of mind if Help closes and the government attitude/climate cracks down on the GDPs and their customers and the country as a whole loses their appetite for "tourists". I may take my 2nd trip back to a more open arms climate in Thailand if this is the new attitude brewing.

Any intel or report on this depressing developing issue? Or is it just a rumor?

Joe

Stop worrying and go ahead with your plans. Nothing has changed so far and is not likely to change in the near future.

Only rumours. Just ignore them and start worrying about the weather only.

It was bloody raining almost every day during last November that I was there.

The other Greek

Jamaicanceo
01-09-09, 07:22
I have heard numerous reports from a thread on The World Sex Guide forum that Help Club is closing in March at the latest. Seems the Brazilian government may be changing it's attitude and policies toward the GDP's and customers.

Also, How will this effect the Termas if Help goes out are they next?

I have heard that the brazilian government is spending millions on a advertising and ad campaign in Europe and other countries warning tourists not to travel to Brazil for sex. Seems Spain had a "problem" with Brazillian GDP's in their county and now it opened Pandoras Box and they (Brazil) is trying to clean up their Image into Not being the"South American Thailand. "

I have also heard stories about beaches in Brazil forbidding GDP's to "work" the beaches and some beaches have been emptied because of the governments attitude toward this.

I was planning my first trip to Rio cause I thought it would be the coolest place on Earth to Monger for Bunda, but may have a change of mind if Help closes and the government attitude/climate cracks down on the GDPs and their customers and the country as a whole loses their appetite for "tourists". I may take my 2nd trip back to a more open arms climate in Thailand if this is the new attitude brewing.

Any intel or report on this depressing developing issue? Or is it just a rumor?Is it possible that this poster, "Joe Greek", is a propagandist? Something about the wording of his question seems some what suspicious to me.

Budge96
01-09-09, 07:53
In copacabana today and did the MC thing and it was great, yeah about 50-60 nice looking chicas, all shapes sizes and hues. Something for everyone. And believe me prices were much better than Southern Brazil!

After dinner at Mondego that amazingly was empty! Walked off the food up to Help . It's open as usual and the girls were all out there chillin.

Mostly the usual crowd, chiclets lady, couple big butt amazoas! And a few new cuties.

Didn't go in save it for another evening, but it does seem slow, very slow

Bert

Exec Talent
01-09-09, 08:12
Was there a lot of girls with black hair and white skin?

Plenty, and, everything else too. Truly impressive. Monte Carlo had a totally different feel from visits past. As best as I can describe it is the comfort you get in a good Chinese restaurant when most of the customers are Chinese.

I had heard L'uomo was supposed to be catering more to the Brazilians and I did see more for awhile, but now it is mostly tourists and the music reflects that. MC felt like I had walked into an upscale Brazilian termas, without the Centaurus attitude and without the frat party atmosphere of 4x4 (though there was one Brazilian guy sporting the towel around the waist, bare chest look).

If anything, there were too many girls. For my part, if they got rid of the girls with the really huge butts (sorry if that is your type), the place would be perfect. The recepionists are nice, the change room woman (Nina, I believe) is sweet and the shower room facilities exceptional.

Unlike in times past where I almost had the feeling that I am in a Rio termas and must go with someone, there were a lot of very good options.

JohnnyBraz
01-09-09, 08:41
Plenty, and, everything else too. Truly impressive. Monte Carlo had a totally different feel from visits past. As best as I can describe it is the comfort you get in a good Chinese restaurant when most of the customers are Chinese.

I had heard L'uomo was supposed to be catering more to the Brazilians and I did see more for awhile, but now it is mostly tourists and the music reflects that. MC felt like I had walked into an upscale Brazilian termas, without the Centaurus attitude and without the frat party atmosphere of 4x4 (though there was one Brazilian guy sporting the towel around the waist, bare chest look).

If anything, there were too many girls. For my part, if they got rid of the girls with the really huge butts (sorry if that is your type), the place would be perfect. The recepionists are nice, the change room woman (Nina, I believe) is sweet and the shower room facilities exceptional.

Unlike in times past where I almost had the feeling that I am in a Rio termas and must go with someone, there were a lot of very good options.In regards to 4x4 the frat party atmosphere is in my opinion the only downside to a great terma.

Jamaicanceo
01-09-09, 08:55
Plenty, and, everything else too. Truly impressive. Monte Carlo had a totally different feel from visits past. As best as I can describe it is the comfort you get in a good Chinese restaurant when most of the customers are Chinese.

I had heard L'uomo was supposed to be catering more to the Brazilians and I did see more for awhile, but now it is mostly tourists and the music reflects that. MC felt like I had walked into an upscale Brazilian termas, without the Centaurus attitude and without the frat party atmosphere of 4x4 (though there was one Brazilian guy sporting the towel around the waist, bare chest look).

If anything, there were too many girls. For my part, if they got rid of the girls with the really huge butts (sorry if that is your type), the place would be perfect. The recepionists are nice, the change room woman (Nina, I believe) is sweet and the shower room facilities exceptional.

Unlike in times past where I almost had the feeling that I am in a Rio termas and must go with someone, there were a lot of very good options.When I was at Monte Carlo in December, it was better than my trip in March. As you described those girls were of great quality in looks. After my session, I stayed to closing and was the only guy. There girls, about 15, were all either 10s or close. Outside of Ingrid, Luomo was no where close.

Koolkid
01-09-09, 13:52
If anything, there were too many girls. For my part, if they got rid of the girls with the really huge butts (sorry if that is your type), the place would be perfect.Man, thats why I'm heading to Rio for the huge butts...lol, But are their certain termas that cater for the huge butt lovers or is there a mix in every
terma.

Thanks

Jan 156
01-09-09, 15:49
start worrying about the weather only. It was bloody raining almost every day during last November that I was there.

This is the main upgrade I've made to my plans recently. Rain in Rio can be anything from inconvenient to a bloody pain.

2 main areas for me:

1) Transport.
Have had this one figured for a while now, since a time when I bought expensive concert tickets and wound up with not a hope in hell of using them. When it rains in Rio, the city slips from it's '3rd world pretending to be a 1st world' kinda fast - like a water-slide ending up in a six inch flood. The one stopping you from even crossing the road to the supermarket. Traffic on major routes has the function of keeping you less wet rather than getting you any place at all. Everything's gridlocked.

Ways round this are:
i) for pussy and most everything else, get home deliveries. I try to have the phone numbers of some local good-value girls I've seen once already, that live walking distance, will make staying indoors a joy, and won't charge the earth. If she's travelling by any means other than Metro or on foot, bear in mind the weather can occasion up to several hours delay. If you don't know how to order pizza, ask her when she arrives.
ii) for planning purposes, have fall-back options in your diary in case the weather hits bad. If you have to travel to a venue at a certain time, get there very early and go for a meal or something while you wait. Because of Rio's almost inbuilt unreliability, I tend to have at least one or two fallback options for every day. This is also important if you've arranged to meet a buddy in a different area - things won't always go to plan.

2) Clothing
This is a biggie for me. I like to have the freedom to get around. Rio cannot afaik sell you trainers that are lightweight, waterproof and won't make your feet hot. The mucky option says wear havaianas and let the mud wash off the way it washed on, but I don't always wanna do that. Likewise light, packable waterproof jacket and trousers that don't look totally geekish. You can now get all of these items from a good technical-clothing store, the sort of places that cater to adventurers and serious outdoor sport enthusiasts. I tried my latest outfit in monsoon conditions in Asia and was pretty comfy while everyone else did their drowned hamster impressions.

Good luck. There's more to Rio than good weather (but grab the beach sun days when they come!!)

Poucolouco
01-09-09, 17:43
Originally Posted by Joe Greek
I have heard numerous reports from a thread on The World Sex Guide forum that Help Club is closing in March at the latest. Seems the Brazilian government may be changing it's attitude and policies toward the GDP's and customers.

Also, How will this effect the Termas if Help goes out are they next?

I have heard that the brazilian government is spending millions on a advertising and ad campaign in Europe and other countries warning tourists not to travel to Brazil for sex. Seems Spain had a "problem" with Brazillian GDP's in their county and now it opened Pandoras Box and they (Brazil) is trying to clean up their Image into Not being the"South American Thailand. "

I have also heard stories about beaches in Brazil forbidding GDP's to "work" the beaches and some beaches have been emptied because of the governments attitude toward this.

I was planning my first trip to Rio cause I thought it would be the coolest place on Earth to Monger for Bunda, but may have a change of mind if Help closes and the government attitude/climate cracks down on the GDPs and their customers and the country as a whole loses their appetite for "tourists". I may take my 2nd trip back to a more open arms climate in Thailand if this is the new attitude brewing.

Any intel or report on this depressing developing issue? Or is it just a rumor?


Is it possible that this poster, "Joe Greek", is a propagandist? Something about the wording of his question seems some what suspicious to me.

Joe Greek's post is an accurate portrayal of an opinionated report on the other site. Joe is right to seek other views on the subject.

Ryjerrob
01-09-09, 18:24
Info to follow.................

Due to my getting confused the other day, I missed this place. But I just called, and am a little excited. The cool thing about this place is that if the pics are photo shopped, I'll know right away.

Do yourself a favor, check out the site and guess which ones I'm gonna be bangin' in about 20 minutes....................I'm thinking Lana..........damn, I'd eat corn outta her shit...............



http://www.flaviamassagens.com.br/

see ya in an hour or so........

ryjer

Exec Talent
01-09-09, 18:44
I'm thinking Lana..........damn, I'd eat corn outta her shit...............

So much for eating lunch while reading this forum.

Joe Greek
01-09-09, 19:31
Joe

Stop worrying and go ahead with your plans. Nothing has changed so far and is not likely to change in the near future.

Only rumours. Just ignore them and start worrying about the weather only.

It was bloody raining almost every day during last November that I was there.

The other GreekEl Greco,

I will most probably go with the plans anyway. I'm sure if Help does close there will be other clubs ready to fill the power vacuum. Still, I'm not convinced about the Help club is not closing as it seems that numerous reports from senior members from World Sex Guide web site, that have spent much time in Help and talked to the owners, (I hear there are several), and the GDP's there say, that the Rumors Are true. So, as long as the Termas stay open, I'm going to Bunda Heaven! What time of the year are most of the GDP's working there? Is there a slow vs best time to go?

Joe Greek

Eros74
01-09-09, 21:12
Do I understand well ?

35 euro one hour of sex with one of these girls ? BBBJ and Anal if not included for how much ?

Where exactly is this place ?

Ryjerrob waiting for your report about Lana ;)

PeterStud
01-09-09, 21:39
Here is my experience in Rio de Janeiro. The stories from other members of the ISG helped me a lot of finding my way and not wasting whole lot time finding the garotas.

I took the trip from December 10, 2008 to Rio de Janeiro on my way to Campo Grande, MS, Brazil then coming back to US. I found the $698 round trip fare from cheaptickets.com from JFK New York to Washington, DC then to Rio de Janeiro. I left Rio on December 15 on my way to Campo Grande. On December 31, 2008 I left Campo Grande and returned to New York on next day.

On December 10, I lost the 11pm flight from the Washington, DC to Rio due to the delay of the incoming flight from JFK. So I had to wait another day and arrived next morning at International Airport in Rio on Friday, December 12, 2008.

Clearing for immigration and custom was a breeze as I only had carried on luggage. Instead of taking taxi, I ventured into taking Real Bus into Copacabana. The trip cost me 7 Real (about 2 dollars) and the bus dropped me off in front of Rio Othon Palace Hotel. I checked in as two guests. I told the hotel receptionist I will provide the name of other guest later on. The room price was $145 per night. I was booked on 24th floor overlooking Sugar Loaf and Copacabana beach. It was a paradise and I was ready for action.

About 4pm, I walked over the City Bank ATM on Ave. Copacabana and drew some cash out. Somehow it was the only bank that accepted by BofA card. After that I walked over to L’uomo MP on Siqueira Campos street. I didn’t know exactly where it was so I asked for the direction. Many Brazilians did not know where it was and one guy told me to go up the stairs on blue fenced gate about a block away. I found the gate and went upstairs and the guy at the reception desk gave me the locker key and a towel. The atmosphere was funny. So I asked the clerk that before changing clothes I wanted to check out the place. He said fine so I went into the club and saw loads of naked men wrapped around with towel in their waist but did not see a single female. I said "where’s the girls? " and the clerk told me that it was a gay club and L’uomo is on the second floor crossed the street. I ran like a hell out of this place.

I went into the building crossed the street and found the escalator to second floor. A woman at the L’uomo reception told me the entrance fee and one hour session were 60 and 260 Reals respectively. I took the key and changed into bath robe at the locker and went for action. There were about 15 garotas at the lounge and about 5 guys. I ordered a shot of Jack Daniel and Coke. A hot garota (8) came over and started chit chat. She was 23 but I don’t remember her name. My little Portuguese skill helped in conversation. She called me "Safado" and rubbed my inner thigh and it became hard and ready. We agreed for one hour session and went into the room where it had a small bed and shower. The chick had a firm body and lavishing perereca. She immediately started BJ on me as I fondled her pussy. We started with mission and finished with a doggy style. The experience was WOW! I bid farewell to her and paid the bill at the counter and took a taxi back to hotel.

About 7pm I went to eat at Meia Pataca right front of the hotel facing the beach. The food wasn’t great but it was the place for the mongering as it was located near the Help. The movement was slow because Help was closed for the weekend and it may have something to do with Madonna’s concert. There were about 10 garotas moving around the restaurant looking for a client. I tried not to pay too much attention as I was eating. As I was leaving Meia Ptaca, I bumped into a blond at the door. She was obviously a working girl and asked if I wanted a company. I was bored so I said OK and offered her a drink. She was about 8 and had a nice personality. Her name was Kesia. I asked bluntly for the TLN price and she reluctantly wrote on the paper 300 Reals which I agreed. I checked her into my hotel without any additional charge. It was a smart decision to check in as two guests instead of one.

In the hotel, we banged on the bed, at the sliding door overlooking Sugar Loaf, doggy style, etc. This girl was energetic and enthusiastic. After extensive banging she wanted to show me around the Rio at night. About 10pm we took a taxi to a club where hundreds of Brazilians girls and boys gather around to drink, eat and dance. I forgot the name of this place. After that about 1am she took me to a swing club where couples are switching partners. The place was dimly lit but I could see the actions. There were many rooms with mirrors on the walls and the ceilings. People were banging like the rabbits everywhere. Kesia wanted to be banged at the club but I didn’t make it for I was so exhausted. About 3am we came back to hotel and slept spoon naked. We woke up late in the morning and banged passionately. We then ate the breakfast on the third floor. I asked her to comeback later in that evening to show me around more of Rio for the same price. She agreed and we were separated with a kiss.

About 4pm I went to Centaurus at Rua Canning, Ipanema for MP action. At the reception I paid 120 Real entrance fee and changed into bath robe. In the lounge I saw about ten garotas and no client. A attractive brunette came over and we talked. I forgot her name and she was 20 year old studying to become phys-ed teacher. She had a great firm body so I took her to a room for an hour. I had to pay upfront fee for the session and it was whopping 500 Reals. It was expensive but I paid anyway for the experience and it was worth it. It was one of the best bang I ever had. I tried many positions with her and she was very enthusiastic.

Although there are more stories to tell I am going to stop now about Rio. At Campo Grande I have rented a boat for three day ecotourism with ten Brazilian guys. While going up and down the Taquari river in Pantanal region, about 10 garotas were invited on the boat. And we banged day and night while drinking beer and fishing. I had a great time and I could write a book about that. Viva Brazil!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Ryjerrob
01-09-09, 23:45
Here we go..............................

Finally made it Flavia Massagem, and it was interesting. It was obvious I was American by the way I spoke Portuguese. Fuck it. I rang the bell and entered the apt./office. In the waiting area were about 7 girls, all waiting for a customer. These were´t the girls from the website. Shit, and double shit. So I sat an listened to them talk after being told it would be eagout 5-10 minutes.

I was then taken to the 1st room were each girl proceeded to enter one at a time and introduce themselves. It was like being a cottage cheese convention. WTF????????????? The 2nd to last girl was Jacolina, I was sold. At least I thought I thought |I was, until Danella entered wearing only a towel.........................sold, to the American for R$70. Time frame, 30 minutes.

No bbbj, and when I pushed my finger in her ass, she said no. There was no massage, but the straight sex was decent. She had a decent attitude, and the place was clean. I showered before and after. Nothing special. and no massage. She was probably an 8. The others were about 5-6. Yes, photo shop is a motherfucker.

Feeling really motivated, I headed to sardine alley where it was happy hour. I watched the crowd and had a few beers. I wasn´t ready to go home yet, and wanted a quickie. So I got off the bus at my new found haunt in Largo do Marchado.

I had already done 2 girls there with decent results for the price of R$30 for 15 minutes. There were about 15 girls and about 10 guys. I had a shitty seat. The girl I mentioned before that had a bad attitude the other night tried to chat me up, but I was a little cold towards her. Then about 9 guys entered together.

I then took Thalita from the other day for 15 minutes. It was hot sweaty sex. I tried to go as far as I could inside her. She said the usual stuff trying to get me off, but I had 15 minutes. After about 12 minutes, I droped my load.

I went back to the bar where it was cooler with the fans going, and had a beer. There was this really skinny black girl that I had talked with my first night. I had told her I would take her the next time. She was just too skinny. I still remembered that girl fromk MP that was a waste of time and money.

This skinny little thing fucked me like it was her job............ok, yeah, it was her job, but she took it all in. She was a little worried when she broke the first condom trying to put it on me. This pyt really put it on me!!!!!!!!!!!! And I don´t mean the condom. When she licked my balls, my dick went into overtime!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I did manage to get her number. Hell. for her half of the R$30, why shouldn´t she make plans on the outside.

I´m headed to Rio Scenarium tonight, and my girlfriend might come along. If she dosen´t, then I´ll try to get luck with a women there or one of the many women from the language school I´m attending.

As for Flavia Massage, I´d go back to do the girl Jacolina, maybe. I cheap spot, everyday on my way home.

I´ll keep you guys informed..........

ryjer

Ryjerrob
01-09-09, 23:47
Do I understand well ?

35 euro one hour of sex with one of these girls ? BBBJ and Anal if not included for how much ?

Where exactly is this place ?

Ryjerrob waiting for your report about Lana ;)

R$70 for 30 minutes
Rua Rio Branco 181, Apt. #1006

Didn´t get anal, but tried finger penetration, and was denied. Need to ask in advance.

Ryjerrob
01-09-09, 23:48
So much for eating lunch while reading this forum.


EAT SOME PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ezinho
01-10-09, 10:44
I usually sit in the very back of the bus, on the left side. Yesterday, someone else was sittng there, so I sat on the right side. As the bus neared Laro do Machado, I saw this sign on a pink doorway that said clube...........hmmmmmmmmmm. I wonder what that is?

I got off the bus, and it was a little dark casa up a fliight of stairs. It was a little was, and dark, but the beer was cold, and the pussy warm.

156 Rua Benito Lisboa.

I did two different girls. Thier names are unimportant. Rate were as follows:

15minutes R$30
30minutes R$50
40minutes R$70
1hour R$100

I saw this 8 come into the place wearing her street clothes. She was fine as hell. Unfortunately she had a shitty attitude. She didn´t drink or smoke. HOw can I trust a girl working in a casa who dosen´t do any of those things. My goal is to do all the girls working there. After the beach today, I´m going back.........


ryjer
I actually reported on 176 a while back, but no one on here ever followed up on it. But a few years ago, a 15 minute session was only R20, and that was with a 3:1 exchange rate!

I think this is the same place you're talking about. Nice to see someone enjoying Termas 176. I lived in Largo de Machado for a brief period in 2005 and would always hit this place up.

Exec Talent
01-10-09, 14:58
A couple of ways you can save money when visiting MC.

You can save R$60 on Tuesdays by going to MC's website and giving them a valid e-mail. They will send you an e-mail which you need to print out and take with you. If you are in Rio you can do this at an internet cafe. This will give you a cabine (R$60) for free.

http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/promocao/terca.php

They also have a frequent visitors program. You will need to give them some basic information to sign up (doesn't have to be true) and they will take your finger print with a device which is used for identification each time you enter. Once you've spent R$500 (not sure if this is the current amount) you will get a free entrance.

BTW, there is a girl with braces who is a dead ringer for a young Anne Heche (but cuter and not lesbian) if this is anyone's fantasy.

Bravo
01-10-09, 16:54
I am in Rio now, i will try to take advantage of this offer. thx!!

Budge96
01-10-09, 18:30
Staying in Copacabana today and two prior days, on my way to Juiz De Fora tonite.

I went to MC yesterday and the day before, great selection almost 50 girls there on Thursday.

Went with a real nice cutie that was a dead ringer for the tween love interest in american beauty. She mentioned she'd heard that but wasn't familiar with the girl, very nice blow/wo, vag/anal-w, CIM, ball tongue wash

After she just kept stroking my nuts to see if ahe might coax some more action. Very enticing indeed

Friday went back to see another stunner that passed on the way to the room, very sweet euro looking blonde (quite the germanic angelic face)

If a little plump. Good action highly recommended (marselle)

Bert

The Watcher
01-10-09, 19:04
BTW, there is a girl with braces who is a dead ringer for a young Anne Heche (but cuter and not lesbian) if this is anyone's fantasy.

I thought a lot of the girls in a termas were lesbians. I love the termas; therefore, I love lesbians! lol

btw, Anne Heche may not be straight but she is not a lesbian - she was married for the last 7 years and is living with a guy now.

Jamaicanceo
01-10-09, 20:07
I thought a lot of the girls in a termas were lesbians. I love the termas; therefore, I love lesbians! lol

btw, Anne Heche may not be straight but she is not a lesbian - she was married for the last 7 years and is living with a guy now.Men are lesbian too. I prefer sex with women and not men. Therefore, I am a a lesbian.

Dwilso39
01-10-09, 20:15
Here we go.

Finally made it Flavia Massagem, and it was interesting. It was obvious I was American by the way I spoke Portuguese. Fuck it. I rang the bell and entered the apt. /office. In the waiting area were about 7 girls, all waiting for a customer. These were't the girls from the website. Shit, and double shit. So I sat an listened to them talk after being told it would be eagout 5-10 minutes.

I was then taken to the 1st room were each girl proceeded to enter one at a time and introduce themselves. It was like being a cottage cheese convention. WTF? The 2nd to last girl was Jacolina, I was sold. At least I thought I thought |I was, until Danella entered wearing only a towel. Sold, to the American for R$70. Time frame, 30 minutes.

No BBBJ, and when I pushed my finger in her ass, she said no. There was no massage, but the straight sex was decent. She had a decent attitude, and the place was clean. I showered before and after. Nothing special. And no massage. She was probably an 8. The others were about 5-6. Yes, photo shop is a motherfucker.

Feeling really motivated, I headed to sardine alley where it was happy hour. I watched the crowd and had a few beers. I wasn't ready to go home yet, and wanted a quickie. So I got off the bus at my new found haunt in Largo do Marchado.

I had already done 2 girls there with decent results for the price of R$30 for 15 minutes. There were about 15 girls and about 10 guys. I had a shitty seat. The girl I mentioned before that had a bad attitude the other night tried to chat me up, but I was a little cold towards her. Then about 9 guys entered together.

I then took Thalita from the other day for 15 minutes. It was hot sweaty sex. I tried to go as far as I could inside her. She said the usual stuff trying to get me off, but I had 15 minutes. After about 12 minutes, I droped my load.

I went back to the bar where it was cooler with the fans going, and had a beer. There was this really skinny black girl that I had talked with my first night. I had told her I would take her the next time. She was just too skinny. I still remembered that girl fromk MP that was a waste of time and money.

This skinny little thing fucked me like it was her job. Ok, yeah, it was her job, but she took it all in. She was a little worried when she broke the first condom trying to put it on me. This pyt really put it on me! And I don't mean the condom. When she licked my balls, my dick went into overtime! I did manage to get her number. Hell. For her half of the R$30, why shouldn't she make plans on the outside.

I'm headed to Rio Scenarium tonight, and my girlfriend might come along. If she dosen't, then I'll try to get luck with a women there or one of the many women from the language school I'm attending.

As for Flavia Massage, I'd go back to do the girl Jacolina, maybe. I cheap spot, everyday on my way home.

I'll keep you guys informed.

RyjerCan you give me some information on the school and the prices?

Thanks

Ryjerrob
01-10-09, 20:25
I actually reported on 176 a while back, but no one on here ever followed up on it. But a few years ago, a 15 minute session was only R20, and that was with a 3:1 exchange rate!

I think this is the same place you're talking about. Nice to see someone enjoying Termas 176. I lived in Largo de Machado for a brief period in 2005 and would always hit this place up.

Yeah, that´s the place. I´ve done 3 different girls there, and hope to do the majority. It´s on the way back from centro. This is a great place for a quickie.

Exec Talent
01-10-09, 21:06
I thought a lot of the girls in a termas were lesbians. I love the termas; therefore, I love lesbians! lol

btw, Anne Heche may not be straight but she is not a lesbian - she was married for the last 7 years and is living with a guy now.

Did not say that there was anything wrong with that. I used to have lesbian friends (one whom had been married) who when they were looking for the real thing used to give me a call. The one who was married was so fond of me she introduced me to her sister.

As for Anne, who knows. Interviews I have read says she doesn't even know. I did ask the girl who looks like her and she said she was not lesbian. Tight little body and definitely worth seeking out. Unfortunately, her name escapes me.

El Minetero
01-11-09, 05:20
Can it be that I'm not the only one that has always felt I was a lesbian... trapped in a man's body? It's so good to know I'm not the only one.

KT

Sprite13
01-11-09, 08:01
Instead of taking taxi, I ventured into taking Real Bus into Copacabana. The trip cost me 7 Real (about 2 dollars) and the bus dropped me off in front of Rio Othon Palace Hotel. I checked in as two guests. I told the hotel receptionist I will provide the name of other guest later on. The room price was $145 per night. I was booked on 24th floor overlooking Sugar Loaf and Copacabana beach. It was a paradise and I was ready for action.

...I checked her into my hotel without any additional charge. It was a smart decision to check in as two guests instead of one.


Although there are more stories to tell I am going to stop now about Rio. At Campo Grande I have rented a boat for three day ecotourism with ten Brazilian guys. While going up and down the Taquari river in Pantanal region, about 10 garotas were invited on the boat. And we banged day and night while drinking beer and fishing. I had a great time and I could write a book about that. Viva Brazil!

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Great report Peter!
I will also be staying at the Rio Othon Palace during Carnaval and it is reassuring that a) you were allowed to bring your garota at the hotel and b) without extra charge! Did they give you any hard time at reception when you showed up with your girl?

Also, I would be interested in getting more info on your boat trip in the Pantanal so please tell me-us more about how you managed to make that happen.

Thanks.

Jamaicanceo
01-11-09, 10:39
Can it be that I'm not the only one that has always felt I was a lesbian... trapped in a man's body? It's so good to know I'm not the only one.

KTI think we all here qualify to be lesbians.

Eros74
01-11-09, 16:21
...I like to spend around 50-60 american $ every day (for 10 days)....

I have the same problem, as I contacted 3 rental agency and still no answer, I guess in high season they do not care too much about who is looking for a budget flat.

However, a question for the more experienced here, is it a bad idea to stay in hotel a couple of days and go directly to rental agency, imobiliaria ?, to see live what they have to offer ? I guess it should be cheaper or same money for better location and/or bigger flat.

Anybody has adress of such as these agency in Copa ?

Thanks so much...

Termas Time
01-12-09, 01:31
Looking forward to part 5 of your Eagle Has Landed Series, Ryjjerrob.

Termas Time

The Watcher
01-12-09, 03:17
Tight little body and definitely worth seeking out. Unfortunately, her name escapes me.

I hope she doesn't escape me when I return in March!

Rodeo9112
01-12-09, 04:11
Anyone know of any companies/individuals in Rio from whom I could rent/charter a nice sized boat for the day or half a day? Looking for something that could fit 6-8 people. If the boat owner has to Captain the boat that's fine, otherwise, if I can rent and pilot it on my own, that would be ideal. Departing in 2 days.

Thanks!

Rodeo

Junior
01-12-09, 14:03
rio de janeiro vs. pattaya

having just completed my first ever trip to pattaya, i thought it might be helpful for the monger community to get a comparison of the worlds two most famous mongering destinations.

just a few words of background. i love rio and brazilian women and have been to the marvellous city many times over the years. i speak portuguese which also makes a big difference. so my conclusion was never in doubt, but i will try to give a fair, albeit it, personal comparison.
my holidays are on relatively high budgets, so the conclusions are based on a fairly good budget.


the two cities
rio is probably one of the most beautiful cities in the world with a great combination of beaches, mountains, forests etc. traffic is bad, but the city has a good metro system and taxis are available very easily.

pattaya is not as nice as rio, but still has a beach (but nobody was swimming in the water). it is very build-up and i felt it was quite crowded. traffic is ok, and baht busses are readily available.

winner: rio

safety
i never felt unsafe in pattaya and it seems to have a good safety reputation.

rio is known to be an unsafe city with a very high murder rate. personally, i have never had problems in rio as i take my precautions.

winner: pattaya

non-mongering activities
pattaya has very good sporting activities available at very good prices. these include diving, golf, [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117) etc. this is less easy to find in rio.

rio has excellent sightseeing tours, including the statue of christ and sugarloaf mountain to name a few. pattaya seemed to have less interesting tour options.

winner: depends on your preferences.

food
both cities have very good local food available a reasonable prices. i like both thai and brazilian food so for my detail regular meals both cities have good options.

there are a number of very good restaurants in rio with high-end international cuisine. these include satyricon, antequarius, fasano etc. i did not find high end international restaurants in pattaya.

winner: depends on food preference – mine is rio due to the high end restaurants.

non-pro nightlife
when in rio i sometimes like to take a night off (from the professional ladies) and go to a regular club. there are many good clubs with local clients only where you can have a great time. on some occasions you might even end up with non-pro for the night.

in pattaya there are so many foreingnes and prostitution is more widespread than in rio. this also means that most if not all clubs with have foreigners and local pros in their audience.

brazilian music in pretty good and i have even come to like to bailefunk party music – whereas i have heard enough thai techno music to last me a lifetime.

winner: rio


prices
generally speaking most, if not all things, are cheaper in pattaya.

apples to apples you get more for your dollars, euros …. in pattaya than in rio. this includes hotels, food, entertaining, women …

lunch:
thai food: 250baht (app. u$7)
brazilian kilograma: 35 reals (u$15)

two girl party:
pattaya (hell club): 3600baht for 90 minutes (u$100)
rio (centaurus): 800 reals for 60 minutes (u$355)
both places are, imho, the cities finest.

good local hotel:
pattaya: 2500 baht (u$72)
rio: u$130

i usually set a budget for my trips. i could not spend my whole budget in pattaya as it is quite cheap. on the other hand i have never been able to stay on budget in rio.

winner: pattaya


women
brazilian women come in all shape, sizes and colours – you can pretty much find all types of women in rio. thai women come in two shapes and sizes – small and very small.

to be perfectly honest it is not even a close call, brazilian women are far more attractive to me than thai women.

thai women are very nice and treat you very well if they like you. the lady i had last night would not allow me to get off the couch to get a beer, she always went to get it for me.
brasilian women are not quite like that, but they are still great company.


winner: rio


sex
again, not even a close call. brazilian women are great in bed, probably the best in world. thai womens sexual skills pale in comparison.

i have had so much great sex in brazil that i have stopped counting ….the best sex i had in pattaya does not even make it to my top50 sessions.

brazilian women are much more into sex and can genuinely provide a great gfe even if they have never met you before. brazilian women are also more sexually demanding – you will get a long way with them if you can really make the come.

winner: rio


will i go back?

…to pattaya: probably not, thai women does not really do it for me.

…to rio: every year till the day i die ( which i hope will be at an old age and in bed with 5 exhausted 19 year old brasilieras).

EasyEase
01-12-09, 17:15
Rio de Janeiro vs. Pattaya

Having just completed my first ever trip to Pattaya, I thought it might be helpful for the monger community to get a comparison of the worlds two most famous mongering destinations.

snip

Sex

Again, not even a close call. Brazilian women are great in bed, probably the best in world. Thai womens sexual skills pale in comparison.

I have had so much great sex in brazil that I have stopped counting ….the best sex I had in Pattaya does not even make it to my top50 sessions.

Brazilian women are much more into sex and can genuinely provide a great GFE even if they have never met you before. Brazilian women are also more sexually demanding – you will get a long way with them if you can really make the come.

Winner: Rio

Will I go back?

…to Pattaya: probably not, thai women does not really do it for me.

…to Rio: Every year till the day I die ( which I hope will be at an old age and in bed with 5 exhausted 19 year old brasilieras).Hi,

Very nice report! And very informativ.

I have been to Thailand now many times and will travel to Rio for the first time in my live next month. I will stay in Salvador during the Carnival and after the Carnival I head to Rio for 1 week.

Personally I like Thai women very much, I've had many GFE experience with them and they are mostly very nice. As you described, they will not let you get yourself a beer.

After going through some escort pages in the net I found how sexy brazilian ladies look. Ofcourse I can not judge since most of them have been photoshoped and the girsls may not look as nice.

I usually monger more upclass and don't mind paying for good service and quality.

So after reading your report I am even more looking forward to Brazil!

Regards,

Vandeta

Tavern
01-12-09, 22:33
Can I get Broadband Internet(Cable) or T1 line in Rio. If so, can it be reliable especially between 6 A.M. EST and 7P.M. EST.

Thanks in advance.

Jamaicanceo
01-13-09, 02:35
Gents: As of today, prices at 4 X 4 have gone up. The price for a 40 minute session is now 160 Reals. The price for an hour in a regular cabin is now up to 200 Reals. When I go back I will try to get a breakdown on all the suites at their new rates if those have changed. Entrance price remains the same. More to comeIt looks like I should try Vila Mimosa! But I'll wear old shoes.

Travel Fox
01-13-09, 03:14
nice report junior,

you know the difference may be for me that i went to thailand first and then went to other destinations. for me thailand is a whole different animal than rio and the two cannot be properly compared to each other. i love them both for many diffferent reasons but i really love the fact that women are available on a p4p basis at both locations. one trip i may need some rio in my life, the other trip i may need a little pattaya.

one thing that divides my time with pattaya is that in pattaya there is no substitute for feeling like you are a total millionaire and getting out of your comfort zone money wise is tough to do. you can also rent a motor bike and that is a freedom in it self. riding from bar to bar in north, central, south pattaya, and then jomtien beach for even more bars... like a kid in a candy store. it's like a freedom that is only experienced over there because you are so in control of everything when money is no issue.

i remember i came out of my apartment one sunday in rio, before my plane took off for home, looking for some quick ass. meia pataca was all wet from rain (think of july '08 when you could throw a stone in helpee on a sunday and not hit anyone in the head, for those that were there) and there was no available ass at meia pataca. pressed on a sunday with two hours till cab time and no ass made me real nervous. in pattaya, not a problem more ass than you need to be available all hours of the day and night. the town is yours, walk where you want. no one is going to attack you or anything like that. it's all good in pattaya. get stumbling drunk and walk to your hotel? no problem! (though you may get pickpocketed by a tranny) the party never stops. what? lucifers is over? well lets just go to mixx or this or that... sun coming up? ok jp bar for crack of dawn partying... 10 or more clubs within walking distance of each other pumpin rap, rock, techno, arabic... they cater to the foreign sex tourist in pattaya. i really like that.

as for rio, the feeling of being in rio cannot be compared. walking along the beach on atlantica never can be equaled in pattaya. you have all versions of tall, short - dark and light in rio. you can even get these weird asian mixes beause of the japanese population in sao paulo. the sheer diversity of rio women cannot be equaled in asia. (though the black military mixes in angeles city philippines give me some real nice alternatives there). rio is a romantic major metropolitan city. pattaya is not very attractive and pretty unromantic.

given the same amount of money and a choice of both places i would probably go to pattaya. double that available amount of money to go to rio with and well then, i choose rio.

they both have big attractions for me. the prevailing reason i constantly still go to asia is because of my initiation into foreign p4p when visiting thailand. i am much more used to the girls and their shyness etc. there is a level of femininity that cannot be equaled by women outside of asia. that is just the way it is... (all my opinion)

god bless all of em tho!

travelfox

Viper10
01-13-09, 16:10
If anyone has any leads on a 2 bedroom furnished, available for a year, please PM me. I am looking to spend no more than 3000R/month. I am looking ASAP. Thank you.

Viper10

Jake993
01-13-09, 17:17
Can I get Broadband Internet(Cable) or T1 line in Rio. If so, can it be reliable especially between 6 A.M. EST and 7P.M. EST.

Thanks in advance. Both DSL and Cable based broadband is available in Rio but is does depend on where you live. In most places in Rio you can get DSL up to 8 Mbps. And it's cheap too. I seem to recall that it's only about $40 a month..... or was R40? Can't remember.
Reliability? Well, I suppose it's about as reliable as anything Brazil.

As for T-1, it's absolutely available from TeleRJ.

Viper10
01-13-09, 17:43
I am writing to all of you while I am in my apartment in Rio. I bought MagicJack in the U.S. for $40. This covers the device and also the first year. They supply you with a U.S. phone number. Wherever you travel in the world, simply connect a landline phone to your computer and connect MagicJack. I just called the U.S. and my number appeared on the caller ID of the person whom I was calling. They also called me in Rio with my U.S. number supplied by MagicJack, and their number appeared on my caller ID and the call went perfectly. Connection was great. All you need is an internet connection that is on. The cost of the call is zero!!

Viper10

Hulk
01-13-09, 17:57
I am writing to all of you while I am in my apartment in Rio. I bought MagicJack in the U.S. for $40. This covers the device and also the first year. They supply you with a U.S. phone number. Wherever you travel in the world, simply connect a landline phone to your computer and connect MagicJack. I just called the U.S. and my number appeared on the caller ID of the person whom I was calling. They also called me in Rio with my U.S. number supplied by MagicJack, and their number appeared on my caller ID and the call went perfectly. Connection was great. All you need is an internet connection that is on. The cost of the call is zero!!

Viper10

I use MagicJack too and I agree it's great. Another nice feature is that when you're offline it will record voice mails for you and then email you a wave file so you can hear the voce mail.

TummySangs
01-13-09, 19:45
http://www.gpbr.net/site.htm

The Watcher
01-13-09, 23:48
I use MagicJack too and I agree it's great. Another nice feature is that when you're offline it will record voice mails for you and then email you a wave file so you have hear the voce mail.

I totally agree. I have used MagicJack during two trips to Rio. It worked perfectly both times.

I also love the voice mail messages sent to my e-mail.

During one of the trips, I was rooming with a friend who had Vonage. It worked fine too but it costs $24 a month. MagicJack is the better deal.

Perkele
01-14-09, 00:02
Both DSL and Cable based broadband is available in Rio but is does depend on where you live. In most places in Rio you can get DSL up to 8 Mbps. And it's cheap too. I seem to recall that it's only about $40 a month..... or was R40? Can't remember.
Reliability? Well, I suppose it's about as reliable as anything Brazil.

As for T-1, it's absolutely available from TeleRJ.
Really?
Please do tell me where and how one can get 8m connection for 40 reals?
My 1m costs with a fixed phone around 150 reais a month.

Bubba Boy
01-14-09, 00:31
A 4mb connection is R$100 per month.

NET sux, I remember when they had an outage for 1 week. After 2 days they simply switched off their call center, didn't even bother to put up a recorded message, just switched it off as too many people were calling into complain.

Big Aussie
01-14-09, 16:37
Hi Guy's,

I will be in town on Sunday and plan to go to help. In previous years this was a great night as although not as busy as normal you had a lot of the GDP's from 4x4 and the other centro termas there to pick up a little extra. Is this still the case? Or should I try somewhere else as this is my only night in town. If anyone wants to meet up for a beer and go on the prowl together I will most likely be between MP and TA at around 10pm on Sunday night, you can't miss me I'll be the 6'6" Aussie with a beer in hand.

Cheers

B. A.

Spinnerman
01-15-09, 01:44
Went to Centaurus last night with four of my friends
I have lived in Rio for eight months now , but never yet tried Centaurus, The prices put me off. My four friends are all first time Rio visitors.
We got there about 9PM , asked if we could see the talent , told we couldn't but told there were 85 girls and 27 men. Cost to get in R120 plus another R280 for 40 minutes if you program plus R20 extra if you use a credit card.
We changed into the robes , showered and entered the boite. I was immediately grabbed by two girls , who did their best to separate me from my friends , we ended up all sitting together, my friends each had one girl. I was pretty sure I wasn't going to program cause R280 for 40 minutes seems way too much for me. I live in Rio and I pay my regulars R100 to R150 for all night. The most I have ever ever paid was R201 for an all-nighter
The girls weren't hustling me for drinks so I offered them each one. My attitude is , if they ask I say no , if they don't I offer.
One of my girls spoke English the other did not , I can get by in Portuguese ( sort of ) so we talked in Portuguese. They were both grabbing my penis so fairly soon it got hard , they called it an anaconda , which is a laugh cause it's closer to a worm LOL.
They were really hustling for a threesome, the other girls of my friends suggested a festa , but since that was R500 each , or R2500 total for the hour we declined.
None of us ended up programming , me because I'm panduro , my friends though splash money around like drunken sailors just didn't fancy any girls.
I had always heard Centaurus had the best of the best girls. But of the 85 girls there I would have said there were a handful of 8s ,no 9s no 10s. Not one single girl was a WOW. My friends were slightly more charitable but not much.
What was offputting was the number of bodybuilder girls. I would say a quarter of the girls were seriously steroid muscular. I know a lot of Brazilians like that look but it turns me off. Seriously we could have been in a room full of travesties. I'd say a quarter of the girls there none of us would do even if they were free. I'm glad I went, cause I finally saw it, but we were all very disappointed in the quality. If you're into the hard-core bulging muscle body-builder girl then go,otherwise pass!

EasyEase
01-15-09, 03:15
Hi there,

As I am travelling to Rio with my wife (who doesn't mind 3somes with another women), I was wondering how it would be if I go with my wife to a place like Help to hook up with another women? Ofcourse my wife wants to be with me when we pick a women. Will the professionals in Brazil feel offended?

We had very good experiences in Thailand, but never travelled to Brazil yet and I was wondering how it will be? Any experiences?

Regards,

Vandeta

Abzsafado
01-15-09, 04:42
Hi there,

As I am travelling to Rio with my wife (who doesn't mind 3somes with another women), I was wondering how it would be if I go with my wife to a place like Help to hook up with another women? Ofcourse my wife wants to be with me when we pick a women. Will the professionals in Brazil feel offended?

We had very good experiences in Thailand, but never travelled to Brazil yet and I was wondering how it will be? Any experiences?

Regards,

Vandeta

Help and the strip clubs are no problem at all. Termas' are a no go, although a long time ago Solarium did allow couples in one day a week.
You would probably be better off trying the swingers club 2A2, it has a website, or one of the ones in Barra.

Good hunting

Bubba Boy
01-15-09, 10:44
Will the professionals in Brazil feel offended?


GDP's will not be offended at all, a good percentage live with other girls in semi lesbian relationships. A very small percentage won't do girls, but they won't be offended if asked.

Also try Lúomo (A Terma). Girls are certainly welcome there, you will also find the other mongers will not be offended nor will they particularly bother you. There will be up to 40 hot young Brazilian girls there in G strings, hence your wife probably won't draw that much attention. She will be required to wear a robe to distinguish herself from the workers of course.

You will also have a great time at Help with your woman!

You really will have a good time in Rio. No one will even be close to being offended by your wife doing another chic.

Bimbo Boy
01-15-09, 10:57
Went to Centaurus last night with four of my friends
I have lived in Rio for eight months now , ... cause R280 for 40 minutes seems way too much for me. I live in Rio and I pay my regulars R100 to R150 for all night. The most I have ever ever paid was R201 for an all-nighter
...
Hello Apocalpso,
I agree with your view that the talent at the Termas is not so great ... lookwise. I would like to know where and how you hunt for local talent? I am living part-time in Rio, and I would love to buy you a drink or a meal and exchange Brazilian war stories with you (pm me). Regards.
B.B.

Andy1974
01-15-09, 19:01
Hi,

I was last in Rio in February, it was great fun, I especially liked Help, everytime I went there it was very busy. Having read this forum since that trip it seems to have died down alot over the summer, before picking up again.

I am returning to Rio for 2 weeks at the end of May and wondered if anyone had any idea how busy Help would be at this time of year, and Rio in general.

Many thanks in advance,

Andy

Edward M
01-16-09, 04:43
Help and the strip clubs are no problem at all. Termas' are a no go, although a long time ago Solarium did allow couples in one day a week.
You would probably be better off trying the swingers club 2A2, it has a website, or one of the ones in Barra.

Good huntingI have to respectfully disagree. I know that L'uomo at least allows women in. I do not know the rules but if she is a foreigner and comes with a man there should be no problem. No problem finding a girl for you two there.

I do not recommend 2A2. The place is pretty nasty. As I understand they do not allow single women, only couples so a threesome will be tough to pull off. At least half of the women there are pros anyway so you may as well cut out the middle man (not the business, the guy that brought her). On the other hand, if you like having sex while some guy stands next to you jacking off then 2A2 is the place to go.

Euro100
01-16-09, 06:17
GDP's will not be offended at all, a good percentage live with other girls in semi lesbian relationships. A very small percentage won't do girls, but they won't be offended if asked.

Also try Lúomo (A Terma). Girls are certainly welcome there, you will also find the other mongers will not be offended nor will they particularly bother you. There will be up to 40 hot young Brazilian girls there in G strings, hence your wife probably won't draw that much attention. She will be required to wear a robe to distinguish herself from the workers of course.

You will also have a great time at Help with your woman!

You really will have a good time in Rio. No one will even be close to being offended by your wife doing another chic.
I agree with everything in this post. Except ... your wife will draw a bit of attention in L'uomo. Because it is so unusual to see a girl in a robe there. I have seen one once, and I had to strike up a conversation. It turned out this lady was there with her three male business partners ... But, yeah, all of the girls there will agre to a threesome, no problen.

Bubba Boy
01-16-09, 12:31
Yeah sure she will draw some attention, it will sort of be cool attention. Unless your wife is super hot, other mongers won't even be looking at her that much other than curiosity factor. Maybe offer a beer and have a chat. There aren't too many wives than would be able to compete for attention against 30 - 40 hit brazilians chics in G Strings dancing around acting looking for dicks to stroke.

EasyEase
01-16-09, 14:38
Yeah sure she will draw some attention, it will sort of be cool attention. Unless your wife is super hot, other mongers won't even be looking at her that much other than curiosity factor. Maybe offer a beer and have a chat. There aren't too many wives than would be able to compete for attention against 30. 40 hit brazilians chics in G Strings dancing around acting looking for dicks to stroke. Hey thank you all for the advices.

I feel now much more confident, I originally thought about Help and other clubs, not necessarely going to a Terma. We are looking more into LT's. We had lots of fun with LT's in Thailand.

But thanks everyone. Seems it is going to be fun.

Vandeta

Eros74
01-16-09, 21:57
Hi all, so just few lines after my first days here, maybe not such a very helpful info for the more experienced friends here, but just another point of view....

HELP
I went there 2 times, as I was afraid, stay 1,5 month in Russia ruined me for life....where in Jet club in Ufa you see 90% of top notch and Jake993 knows very well what I am speaking about ;) , at help I saw only 5-10% of top notch. It is surely a safe place, full of gringo, but the problem is outside...if you go immediately inside the taxi, they have insane prices cause they to not swtich on taxametr, if you walk even 100 metrs it can be dangerous, I do that I across the street and take taxi that pass towards Leme.
Girls starts from 450 reais but at late night you can take for 200, the problem is....the very nice are or busy, very busy, and a bit selfish too, some looks really under drugs...., the other ones....for me it is now almost impossible to fuck a 5´ when in Russia I got so many 8´and 9´....

BALCONY BAR
Even worst quality than help....

SHENNINGANS
Some nice girls, but almost every one already busy when I got there

WEATHER
Very hot...the sun really burn even if every days cloudy for some hours

TERMAS
Still not try, I got horny at late night LOL when they exactly close ?? I go, for sure, I promise and then I immediately report here. I decided for Lúomo, we will see.

FLAT
I found a good one in Copa for 80 reais per day, close to Balcony bar

FOOD
Restaurants everywhere, but at comida per kg, I eat good too, so...I save money to try to get top notch in Porto Alegre LOL

If somebody wants to meet for a beer or every suggests is more than wellcome, the same as if somebody will be in Porto Alegre about the first 2 weeks of february....

Ciao

Pyjama
01-16-09, 22:22
FLAT
I found a good one in Copa for 80 reais per day, close to Balcony bar

That must be a bargain for Rio de Janeiro. Some years ago I think I payed at least 150 R$ for a decent place half-way between Copa and Ipanema.

Artful
01-18-09, 03:08
you've summarised the difference very well and i would like to summarise it further to one word: price. there's no doubt the availability of girls is higher and the price much lower in, say, bangkok. but in rio the quality, and therefore the price, much higher. eliminate the price factor and rio is infinitely better.




nice report junior,

you know the difference may be for me that i went to thailand first and then went to other destinations. for me thailand is a whole different animal than rio and the two cannot be properly compared to each other. i love them both for many diffferent reasons but i really love the fact that women are available on a p4p basis at both locations. one trip i may need some rio in my life, the other trip i may need a little pattaya.

one thing that divides my time with pattaya is that in pattaya there is no substitute for feeling like you are a total millionaire and getting out of your comfort zone money wise is tough to do. you can also rent a motor bike and that is a freedom in it self. riding from bar to bar in north, central, south pattaya, and then jomtien beach for even more bars... like a kid in a candy store. it's like a freedom that is only experienced over there because you are so in control of everything when money is no issue.

i remember i came out of my apartment one sunday in rio, before my plane took off for home, looking for some quick ass. meia pataca was all wet from rain (think of july '08 when you could throw a stone in helpee on a sunday and not hit anyone in the head, for those that were there) and there was no available ass at meia pataca. pressed on a sunday with two hours till cab time and no ass made me real nervous. in pattaya, not a problem more ass than you need to be available all hours of the day and night. the town is yours, walk where you want. no one is going to attack you or anything like that. it's all good in pattaya. get stumbling drunk and walk to your hotel? no problem! (though you may get pickpocketed by a tranny) the party never stops. what? lucifers is over? well lets just go to mixx or this or that... sun coming up? ok jp bar for crack of dawn partying... 10 or more clubs within walking distance of each other pumpin rap, rock, techno, arabic... they cater to the foreign sex tourist in pattaya. i really like that.

as for rio, the feeling of being in rio cannot be compared. walking along the beach on atlantica never can be equaled in pattaya. you have all versions of tall, short - dark and light in rio. you can even get these weird asian mixes beause of the japanese population in sao paulo. the sheer diversity of rio women cannot be equaled in asia. (though the black military mixes in angeles city philippines give me some real nice alternatives there). rio is a romantic major metropolitan city. pattaya is not very attractive and pretty unromantic.

given the same amount of money and a choice of both places i would probably go to pattaya. double that available amount of money to go to rio with and well then, i choose rio.

they both have big attractions for me. the prevailing reason i constantly still go to asia is because of my initiation into foreign p4p when visiting thailand. i am much more used to the girls and their shyness etc. there is a level of femininity that cannot be equaled by women outside of asia. that is just the way it is... (all my opinion)

god bless all of em tho!

travelfox

Exec Talent
01-18-09, 13:20
I used to justify going to Centaurus because they had the best looking girls in Rio. I can't even say that anymore.

Last night after I left Monte Carlo (where I had another great time) I took a cab to Centaurus. As soon as I got in I told him this ride was on Centaurus and he could collect his R$20 from them. The reason I did this was because last time I was told that my entrace would be R$120 and not the usual R$100 I had been paying (R$20 is the gringo tax).

I get there and only pay the entrance (R$120) and change into my robe. As soon as I walked in the bar the girls were grabbing at me and standing in my way. I was the only gringo there and there were probably only 20 or so Brazilians at 9:00 on Saturday. One girl is my designated chaperone for the evening and sits down and starts talking with me. I explain that my friends no longer come there because the girls are so agressive. I then go to the corner table by the stage to eat and listen to the live music. She sits down next to me and asks me if this is better. She says she knows I don't want to talk, but proceeds to talk with me anyway.

Almost all of the girls and most of the customers are smoking. Other than one light mulatta, all the girls are white. I really like the singer and guitarist but unfortunately some drunk Brazilian grabs drumsticks and starts beating on everything in sight. That and his going on stage and singing along with the singer made what should have been enjoyable, painful. One of the girls tries unsuccesfully to distract him. After about 15 minutes of this, I leave.

At checkout I ask for my tab and am told it is R$49 more. I had a Coke Zero and some food. I give him R$50, he quickly gives me 1 R$ and says bye. I ask to see the bill. It turns out it was R$39. I point this out to him and he apologizes and gives me the other R$10.

So, they charge me R$20 more because I am a gringo. If you do take a girl, the total cost (normally expected to be paid upfront) is R$400 for 40 minutes. Receiptionists are rude and dishonest, girls are agressive and not as attractive as in the past. If you are a non-smoker, you will find nothing but smokers. If you prefer women of color you will not find any there. The food was tasteless other than being heavily laden with salt.

Centaurus - Why indeed?

David68
01-18-09, 14:11
I used to justify going to Centaurus because they had the best looking girls in Rio. I can't even say that anymore.

Centaurus - Why indeed?I feel the same way. Been here 2 weeks now and this will be my first trip to Brazil without going to Centaurus. Monte Carlo has put Centaurus out of business for me.

Jamaicanceo
01-18-09, 16:31
I used to justify going to Centaurus because they had the best looking girls in Rio. I can't even say that anymore.

Last night after I left Monte Carlo (where I had another great time) I took a cab to Centaurus. As soon as I got in I told him this ride was on Centaurus and he could collect his R$20 from them. The reason I did this was because last time I was told that my entrace would be R$120 and not the usual R$100 I had been paying (R$20 is the gringo tax).

I get there and only pay the entrance (R$120) and change into my robe. As soon as I walked in the bar the girls were grabbing at me and standing in my way. I was the only gringo there and there were probably only 20 or so Brazilians at 9:00 on Saturday. One girl is my designated chaperone for the evening and sits down and starts talking with me. I explain that my friends no longer come there because the girls are so agressive. I then go to the corner table by the stage to eat and listen to the live music. She sits down next to me and asks me if this is better. She says she knows I don't want to talk, but proceeds to talk with me anyway.

Almost all of the girls and most of the customers are smoking. Other than one light mulatta, all the girls are white. I really like the singer and guitarist but unfortunately some drunk Brazilian grabs drumsticks and starts beating on everything in sight. That and his going on stage and singing along with the singer made what should have been enjoyable, painful. One of the girls tries unsuccesfully to distract him. After about 15 minutes of this, I leave.

At checkout I ask for my tab and am told it is R$49 more. I had a Coke Zero and some food. I give him R$50, he quickly gives me 1 R$ and says bye. I ask to see the bill. It turns out it was R$39. I point this out to him and he apologizes and gives me the other R$10.

So, they charge me R$20 more because I am a gringo. If you do take a girl, the total cost (normally expected to be paid upfront) is R$400 for 40 minutes. Receiptionists are rude and dishonest, girls are agressive and not as attractive as in the past. If you are a non-smoker, you will find nothing but smokers. If you prefer women of color you will not find any there. The food was tasteless other than being heavily laden with salt.

Centaurus - Why indeed?Do you suspect that Centaurus charges Brazilians less than the R$400 for 40 minutes?

Dazzler72
01-19-09, 01:34
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/rio-copacabana

Have a read of this. I hope Help doesn't close. Where the paedophilia link comes from I don't know.

Agreed, the Avenida Atlantica needs a clean up; the famous wave motif tiles need a good scrub and some need replacing and attention to sprucing up the street furniture is needed.

More (active and uncorrupt) police on the streets late at night and patrolling would make visitors feel safer and deter street crime but I'm not sure if there is an un-corrupt Police Militar in the whole of Copacabana. New York has undergone a renaissance due to the last mayors increased spending on keeping streets clean, cleaning graffiti, repairing sidewalks and roads and coming down hard on anti-social behaviour. The problem is, Help is probably considered part of the problem, even though it is in a very small part of the beachfront and the problem is not with the girls and punters but with those who prey on them.

Exec Talent
01-19-09, 04:22
Do you suspect that Centaurus charges Brazilians less than the R$400 for 40 minutes?

I do not know. I do know that what alerted me originally to the extra entrance charge (dates back to previous pricing levels) for gringos was what I saw on my bill. For example, since I only paid the entrance this time there was a R$100 credit. Actually I paid R$120. It does not matter in terms of charges (it is a washed amount) however it showed me what was collected and what was credited were two different amounts. The R$20 was outside the computer system.

As for the R$400, maybe one of our local Brazilian friends can let us know.

Madd Love
01-19-09, 14:17
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/18/rio-copacabana

Have a read of this. I hope Help doesn't close. Where the paedophilia link comes from I don't know.

Agreed, the Avenida Atlantica needs a clean up; the famous wave motif tiles need a good scrub and some need replacing and attention to sprucing up the street furniture is needed.

More (active and uncorrupt) police on the streets late at night and patrolling would make visitors feel safer and deter street crime but I'm not sure if there is an un-corrupt Police Militar in the whole of Copacabana. New York has undergone a renaissance due to the last mayors increased spending on keeping streets clean, cleaning graffiti, repairing sidewalks and roads and coming down hard on anti-social behaviour. The problem is, Help is probably considered part of the problem, even though it is in a very small part of the beachfront and the problem is not with the girls and punters but with those who prey on them.

Even if they close it there are other spots we can go too. Or we can open a new club.

Sunset Strip
01-19-09, 22:14
Wow, that article was all over the place in logic. It seems these uppity Brazilians are going to do for Copacabana what they did when they built Brasilia!

That article is proof that certain Brazilians just do not get it. The people quoted in the article made references to smells, drugs, etc., and then prostitution as if they all have something to do with the other.

Certain elements in Brazil have always focused on "modernization," by placing the blame for "backwardness" on others. I will guarantee these jerks quoted in the article are or will be in power in the suburb of Copa and in Rio in the future. They place the blame on others then pretend to "clean" things up in the name of the people!


who cares anyway? Prostitution in Copacabana will just move to other venues. And if no gringo ever set foot in Rio again, prositution will still be big time in Rio/Brazil, just ask Ronaldo.



TJ

Sehns
01-20-09, 00:17
** Police Scams **

Speaking of people preying on punters at help, I have been pulled over 4 times now while inside a taxi travelling from Avenida Atlantica to Ipanema by police.

They take you out of the car, Search your pockets, and if you have a prostitute with you they plant drugs on her or in the taxi and tell you you have to pay.

Has this happened to anyone else? Be careful guys, its beyond fucked.

Tiradentes
01-20-09, 04:16
Wow, that article was all over the place in logic. It seems these uppity Brazilians are going to do for Copacabana what they did when they built Brasilia!

That article is proof that certain Brazilians just do not get it. The people quoted in the article made references to smells, drugs, etc., and then prostitution as if they all have something to do with the other.

Certain elements in Brazil have always focused on "modernization," by placing the blame for "backwardness" on others. I will guarantee these jerks quoted in the article are or will be in power in the suburb of Copa and in Rio in the future. They place the blame on others then pretend to "clean" things up in the name of the people!


who cares anyway? Prostitution in Copacabana will just move to other venues. And if no gringo ever set foot in Rio again, prositution will still be big time in Rio/Brazil, just ask Ronaldo.

TJ

If they are serious about cleaning Copacabana, then let them start by the big fat ELEPHANT in the room. And by the big fat elephant , I mean the SLUMS/FAVELAS on the top of Copa and Ipanema.! That would resolve 90% of the problems of Rio right there.

Jamaicanceo
01-20-09, 05:15
If they are serious about cleaning Copacabana, then let them start by the big fat ELEPHANT in the room. And by the big fat elephant , I mean the SLUMS/FAVELAS on the top of Copa and Ipanema.! That would resolve 90% of the problems of Rio right there.I second this recommendation! And they should feed the kids who wander through Rio looking for food and sleeping on the streets.

Eros74
01-20-09, 13:03
Do you suspect that Centaurus charges Brazilians less than the R$400 for 40 minutes?

ASAP I write a good report about 3 days at termas...so far just an info....yesterday at 4x4 I paid 448 reais for entrance,2 beers and 1 guarana, 1 hour with 1 girl and 40 mintues with second girl....not bad...but if Centaurus has many white girls....I think I will got to take a look even if it seems to me a turist rip off.... later more...

Exec Talent
01-20-09, 15:28
** Police Scams **

Speaking of people preying on punters at help, I have been pulled over 4 times now while inside a taxi travelling from Avenida Atlantica to Ipanema by police.

They take you out of the car, Search your pockets, and if you have a prostitute with you they plant drugs on her or in the taxi and tell you you have to pay.

Has this happened to anyone else? Be careful guys, its beyond fucked.

This is a serious issue of which everyone should be aware. However, let's move the discussion of it to Rio de Janeiro -- Crime and Safety

Koolkid
01-20-09, 16:21
** Police Scams **

Speaking of people preying on punters at help, I have been pulled over 4 times now while inside a taxi travelling from Avenida Atlantica to Ipanema by police.

They take you out of the car, Search your pockets, and if you have a prostitute with you they plant drugs on her or in the taxi and tell you you have to pay.

Has this happened to anyone else? Be careful guys, its beyond fucked.What sums of money are we talking about being paid here?

Eros74
01-20-09, 18:08
So after 3 days of help where i saw nothing really good and not overpriced, i got my first girl at sweety pussy, 77 reais to take her out included entrance and 2 drinks and 200 reis for her, not bad, not good.
Earlier I was at Barbarella....the best turist rip off....60 entrance with 1 drink but the girls want at least 600 reais and no very very beautiful for me...useless to say I left alone....one thing to say, the white one I spoke with, got almost angry when I asked her if she does bbbj and anal........she told that I am crazy if I think she will sucks every day without condom different gringo dick....I told her in restaurant not far from there, they search for waitress.....I think crazy is who is gonna to pay 600 reais for one of them....

My lucky was I met two guys from NY, so they showed me termas and finally my holiday changed....

1 DAY :
Montecarlo, not many customer, but only 2 or 3 top notch, I took one, nice but nothing special however she was completa and I enjoyed so much, I went up for one hour and after 2 shots I wanted one more ( I had to party my first day at termas LOL ), so I went another 40 minutes, we stayed about 6 hours, many drinks and 600 reais, but milion times more funny and good than if I took the girl from Barbarella.

2 DAY
L'uomo, very nice, much more nice looking girls than at Montecarlo, almost same price, but the 18 yo I took, even if she kissed me very passionate, she did not do anal.....so I left and I went for 40 minutes with the girl of the day before in montecarlo

3 DAY
4x4.....too crowded, about 10 very nice girls, but too person you almost cannot walk, it was crowded as help on saturday night, just to make you understand wha I mean.....I took a very nice, the best one I saw in 7 days in Rio, blonde, thin, for 1 hour, at the bar she kissed very good, handjob too....I was sure she could be a very good experience as the girl from Montecarlo but it ends to be one of the worst girl I got in my life....in the bedroom, almost no bj, she did not want anal, she neither allowed me to finger and to lick her pussy,even if I took a shower in front of her....she was too much beautiful...so lazy, so bad....
Down after one hour of see girls, I found a brown skin thin too, that even if not so nice as the blond one, 40 minutes with her were unbelievable, bbbj and anal as usually and really very good sex.
So 1 hour with the blond one, 40 minutes with the second one, few drinks, entrance for 448 reais......not bad I guess.
It seems to me much cheaper 4x4 instead of termas in copa.

Strange enough that at 4x4 40 minutes is 180 reais and 60 minutes is 200 reais....just 20 reais more ?

I am curious to see centaurus and every termas that has white or tanned thin girls, so if you have suggests, let me know, I go and I report :)

Bye for now

ChicoBarca
01-20-09, 18:34
This is a serious issue of which everyone should be aware. However, let's move the discussion of it to Rio de Janeiro -- Crime and SafetyHi Guys,

Mentioned a simular thing in an other report. And this is a wise advice.

Be careful guys.

Chicobarca

Sehns
01-20-09, 18:59
Lukasek,

Glad to hear you finally found Monte Carlo. I must say I love that club, i've been there a few times now, its conveniently located, the girls are almost as hot as the ones at centaurus, and I leave without feeling like I just got robbed (Unlike Centaurus, which is a block from where I live)

I feel your pain about the tall hot skinny white girls, I found a pleasant looking girl at monte carlo last night, she's tall with long dark hair and wears an adam and eve style bikini (felt leaves over each breast and her thong) got chatting, she had a great sales pitch as well, lots of kissing, affection, crotch grabbing.. got her back to the room and she just lay down, no BJ (even covered), absolutely unwilling to please, I was disgusted and glad i only paid for 40 minutes.

Oh well, its all a learning experience, it wont happen to me again for sure

Jimmy Boy 99
01-20-09, 20:09
** Police Scams **

Speaking of people preying on punters at help, I have been pulled over 4 times now while inside a taxi travelling from Avenida Atlantica to Ipanema by police.

They take you out of the car, Search your pockets, and if you have a prostitute with you they plant drugs on her or in the taxi and tell you you have to pay.

Has this happened to anyone else? Be careful guys, its beyond fucked.

Tell the taxi driver to go via Barata Ribeiro and Raul Pompeia. Perhaps this will avoid the cops.

Jake993
01-20-09, 20:34
Lukasek,

Glad to hear you finally found Monte Carlo. I must say I love that club, i've been there a few times now, its conveniently located, the girls are almost as hot as the ones at centaurus, and I leave without feeling like I just got robbed (Unlike Centaurus, which is a block from where I live)

I feel your pain about the tall hot skinny white girls, I found a pleasant looking girl at monte carlo last night, she's tall with long dark hair and wears an adam and eve style bikini (felt leaves over each breast and her thong) got chatting, she had a great sales pitch as well, lots of kissing, affection, crotch grabbing.. got her back to the room and she just lay down, no BJ (even covered), absolutely unwilling to please, I was disgusted and glad i only paid for 40 minutes.

Oh well, its all a learning experience, it wont happen to me again for sure
To quote Vadim [from Moscow] - "Beautiful girls think that they shit ice cream, but the ugly girls know what they have to do".

Hulk
01-20-09, 21:59
I am curious to see centaurus

If you must go to Centaurus I'd suggest negotiating at the front door that you will only pay the entrance fee up front (since you are a non-brazilian you will be overcharged for this anyways). After you go in and realize that the girls aren't any better than the other Termas at almost two times the price, you'll at least have the chance to high-tail-it out of there after only losing the entrance fee.

I'm sorry if I sound sarcastic, but it continues to amaze me how Centaurus stays in business.

Poucolouco
01-21-09, 01:50
** Police Scams **

Speaking of people preying on punters at help, I have been pulled over 4 times now while inside a taxi travelling from Avenida Atlantica to Ipanema by police.

They take you out of the car, Search your pockets, and if you have a prostitute with you they plant drugs on her or in the taxi and tell you you have to pay.

Has this happened to anyone else? Be careful guys, its beyond fucked.

Do you recall the exact location(s) where you were detained? This is relevant because Copacabana is in the jurisdiction of the 19th Batallion, and the Ipanema/Leblon area is in the jurisdiction of the 23rd Batallion. It might be useful for people who want to avoid this situation.

Sehns
01-21-09, 07:26
Do you recall the exact location(s) where you were detained? This is relevant because Copacabana is in the jurisdiction of the 19th Batallion, and the Ipanema/Leblon area is in the jurisdiction of the 23rd Batallion. It might be useful for people who want to avoid this situation.Av Rainha Elizabeth De Belgica, smack bang in the middle.

Roccos
01-21-09, 07:28
Hello

I plan to go 1 week in Rio end September. I only come 2 days in Rio 10 years ago.

I read the (very good) Bubba report and I spend 2 hours reading the forum but I still have a few questions

- The best place for an accomodation is copa right? Can you recommand a girl-friendly hotel or appartment (prince range 50-70 eur/day)

- What is average price for a girl? From the beach, restaurant, therma, help. I suppose the price are lower due to low season, are there still many bunda everywhere?

- Is the wheater good in September?

Thanks for help

Langer
01-21-09, 17:09
Well I am disappointed.

Went to Centaurus last week, why? because I had a friend over and that was where he wanted to go, well it was awful, rude staff at the desk, they tried to overcharge us for drinks and added the R$20 gringo tax, girls were unattractive, overall rubbish.

Went to L'uomo last night there were loads of guys and the girls were busy, I like when the place is busy usually there is a party mood but not last night. I could not see any good looking girls, still it was much better than Centaurus and took Lana skinny blond, an old friend, to the cabin, good session but it seems the whole Therma scene has gone down hill. I hope I'm wrong but it doesn't have the same buzz, or may be I'm just getting board with it!!!!!!

Will try Monte Carlo tonight but the last time I was there in August it was awful

Eros74
01-21-09, 18:02
Sehns
I feel your pain too, what happens us, it is the same with different girls. Interesting and sad enough, you got much kissing too as me, so it is not so easy to understood from downstairs how the girl will be upstairs.....at least you took her for 40m, me for 1 hour.....

I quote Jake993 too, the problem is we are here for the nice girls, not for the uglies ones... :(

Hulk
you are not sarcastic, you are right and what I read here about Centaurus....hm...well I think I will try something different....

Solarium how and where is ?

BTW....yesterday after l'uomo I went to help, I was surprised, cause there were nice pussies, at least 10 girls I liked. I spoke with 3 and they wanted from 350 till 400 reais, till morning, they said, so considering money\time termas vs help, it is not bad, but the problem is that....with no one I got the feeling I could have a GFE, otherwise 100 reais more or less, do not change my life. Still I took no one girl from help back home, but at least once I want to do it, I would like to have 4-5 hours of sex instead of 1h.

After help I went to balcony bar and nothing, so I went to erotica that it is close to my apartment, 40 reais for nothing....it was the last time I paid a night club without to take a look inside in advance.

Do zavtra ;)

Eros74
01-22-09, 17:41
Here we are for the daily report ;)

Yesterday, thanks to Jake993 for gave me the exactly address I decided to go to Solarium21, but it took me....more than 2 hours from copa....cause it was raining and nao transito, all the cars just stand and move couple of meters every couple of minutes, so instead to arrive there at 19:00 I arrive later than 21:00....

To make long short....22 girls and 6 were blondes......the terma with the higher % of nice pussies, only one real black skin, most of them light or a bit tanned.
There were about 6-7 customers.

I choose a real hot blondes, about 165cm for 50 kg, so nice, I was surprised she did not speak russian....after about one hour of nice conversation and DFK, I was sure I could have not only nice sex but also a GFE with a hot girl when a friend of her come to us...she said, she has a friend and to wait her....she spoke and drink with him and they went to bedroom....after 2 hours of waiting I left so horny so angry....

I went, this time in less then 20 minutes, to Balcony where I started to check the pussy market....skank, gangsta, skank, skank, dogs, buldog....princess.....who is she ???

A sooo cute dark hair and eyes, skin white as milk a 160cm for less than 50kg, but good fake titts and so nice little, but high ass....she was alone and instead to wait if she was with somebody I started to play fast and I asked if she spoke english.....so in a couple of minutes we were having a nice conversations, smiles, jokes and her english good, or bad lol, as my english.

She is from belo horizonte, she said in holiday in Rio...byt the conversation I started almost to think she was a semipro, cause when I asked her if we can go to see Buzios or Rio together, she said, I do not know you well....

We agree to go to help, I paid her entrance, but let to see, she was very good, she no smokes and wanted to drink only water, the kind of girl I did not see here in Rio so often, she looks normal girl.....then she said...I work here....ok, for how much.....now....how much do you think such a girl can charge ?

6--0--0 reais !!!

I did want to smile, but I did not, so I asked her, what she does or not does, she said, she likes to make everything clear at the beginning, so...she does no anal, big miss for Lukasek, and when I asked if she likes milk...she said on her breast yes.....hm....I was sure I did not take her and not only for the price so high, but cause she really started to behave as a princess....

You know I was almost sure I could easily get her price down...but my question was, am I gonna to get a GFE with her or not ?

The answer was very easy if you consider, that I was, luckily, curious enough to ask her such an obvious question that in this case had a non obvious answer....do you like DATY ?

She said...usually when I work I never let somebody to lick me, but I like you, so....so ok, you can lick me.....at that moment I realized I did not take her neither for 50 reais, cause what I hate more is sex with such a princess, typical west european attitude....

So I told her, your price is too high and even if I like you and the connection is good, I am here 2 months so I can wait for sex...she said, she does no care about the prices of the other girls and that this is her price....

I stayed 2 hours more, she came to me another 2 times asking me why I was alone....I smiled and I said, that she is alone too....

And nobody spoke to her, she was alone all the time and went away alone, very strange cause she is really very nice, but maybe everybody already know her price...

I went then to balcony, erotica and niko's.....I was so horny that I had a bit problem to fall asleep....

So at least I did not get boring even if I had no sex, I got a cheap evening....

Poka

Pure Power
01-23-09, 14:15
I am in Rio as we speak. Went to L'uomo and Monte Carlo last night. I have no basis as to what has been or was in terms of quality at those two termas in the past. All I can say IMO there were several 8.5's and above and a couple 9's in physical terms at L'uomo. IMO the quality is very very very good in both :-) But I am a Rio rookie right now, still with his jaw on the floor.....

I can say I like L'uomo's facility's better than MC's.

Also MC was pretty packed last night. I had to work faster than I would have liked because eyes were on the prize I wished to receive.

Will post my findings again tonight, hopefully with some pictures.....

Pure Power
01-23-09, 21:04
Just got back from 4x4. Man that place is wild!! Found my girlfriend for tomorrow to do some tourist stuff. She was the sexiest all natural girl in the place IMO. Solid 9 in my book. DFK, BBJ all the way. She isn't working tomorrow, so I will be her lover all day :-)

Will post pics ASAP!! Probably Sunday..........MAN I LOVE RIOOOO!!!!!!!!!! I will never again visit Tijuana, Costa RIca, Panama, Amsterdam, Germany, etc etc. Rio is my new home away from home for fun :-)

I don't know if its the pressure of lack there of, but I am a fukin stallion in Rio. I banged for 40min straight, now my stomach and back are sore. But man o man what a bunda I was banging.

I honestly might cry when I have to leave Monday night :-(

Well off to Monte Carlo or L'uomo. I guess I will make the decision when I leave the apartment, which I want to thank Gringo Management for providing me.

Eros74
01-23-09, 23:08
Yesterday 1 hour at 4x4 for 291 reais and 40 minutes at l'uomo for 271 reais, both truly GFE....my feeling is that in comparison to the east europe, speaking about prostitute, here is much more hard to find a beautiful one, but much easier to get a very GFE.

This morning I wake up so tired and weak, I think much better I slow down, before to get sick, however is pretty easy, cause outside of termas, walking at the street very hard to get horny with the girls you see.

2 questions for the more experienced: termas are only in Rio or in every city of Brazil it is enough to ask for termas to a taxi driver and he understand ?

I was at 4x4, montecarlo, l'uomo, solarium21, so besides the centaurus that I still did not try, which other termas do you suggest me as enough easy to find, good girls and not too much far from copa ? So I will go and then I will report as well.

Thanks...

Brugal8
01-23-09, 23:19
Yesterday 1 hour at 4x4 for 291 reais and 40 minutes at l'uomo for 271 reais, both truly GFE....my feeling is that in comparison to the east europe, speaking about prostitute, here is much more hard to find a beautiful one, but much easier to get a very GFE.

This morning I wake up so tired and weak, I think much better I slow down, before to get sick, however is pretty easy, cause outside of termas, walking at the street very hard to get horny with the girls you see.

2 questions for the more experienced: termas are only in Rio or in every city of Brazil it is enough to ask for termas to a taxi driver and he understand ?

I was at 4x4, montecarlo, l'uomo, solarium21, so besides the centaurus that I still did not try, which other termas do you suggest me as enough easy to find, good girls and not too much far from copa ? So I will go and then I will report as well.

Thanks...


Try termas CANCUN!!!

More good termas on Barra and there a lot more termas. trust me we have not gone to all.

Girls in Brazil are more of the crazy body type but actually a lot of mongers still do not understand something that we really need to keep in mind and I can not say this enough, Brazil is HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!! bigger than Europe without Russia. So whatever you are looking as far looks Brazil has it trust me if you are looking for beautiful go to the South of Brazil and you'll get your share of really gorgeous women.

Brugal

Kid Cisco
01-24-09, 00:37
Just got back from 4x4. Man that place is wild!! Found my girlfriend for tomorrow to do some tourist stuff. She was the sexiest all natural girl in the place IMO. Solid 9 in my book. DFK, BBJ all the way. She isn't working tomorrow, so I will be her lover all day :-)

Will post pics ASAP!! Probably Sunday..........MAN I LOVE RIOOOO!!!!!!!!!! I will never again visit Tijuana, Costa RIca, Panama, Amsterdam, Germany, etc etc. Rio is my new home away from home for fun :-)

I don't know if its the pressure of lack there of, but I am a fukin stallion in Rio. I banged for 40min straight, now my stomach and back are sore. But man o man what a bunda I was banging.

I honestly might cry when I have to leave Monday night :-(

Well off to Monte Carlo or L'uomo. I guess I will make the decision when I leave the apartment, which I want to thank Gringo Management for providing me. Purepower,

Glad to see you made it to Rio isn't it everything I said it would be? LOL don't Rio blow Costa Rica out of the water? Don't forget to try out Club Help before you leave.

Kid Cisco

Jake993
01-24-09, 00:50
Yesterday 1 hour at 4x4 for 291 reais and 40 minutes at l'uomo for 271 reais, both truly GFE....my feeling is that in comparison to the east europe, speaking about prostitute, here is much more hard to find a beautiful one, but much easier to get a very GFE.

This morning I wake up so tired and weak, I think much better I slow down, before to get sick, however is pretty easy, cause outside of termas, walking at the street very hard to get horny with the girls you see.

2 questions for the more experienced: termas are only in Rio or in every city of Brazil it is enough to ask for termas to a taxi driver and he understand ?

I was at 4x4, montecarlo, l'uomo, solarium21, so besides the centaurus that I still did not try, which other termas do you suggest me as enough easy to find, good girls and not too much far from copa ? So I will go and then I will report as well.

Thanks...
Luca,
Happy you enjoyed 4x4. Termas do exit in other cities in Brazil but not in the same format. For example, in Sao Paulo there are places to go for a massage that involve sex. Similar to the places that you see in Russia. You choose from a group of girls who are available. In Belo Horizonte there are one or two clubs that are similar to Termas but not as good as Rio. the Termas in Baja are newer and I have heard good things about them, but have never tried them myself. Too far from Copacabana without your own car. Unless you hire a taxi for the night.

As you go down the coast south of Rio there are some Termas but, again they are small and not as well organized. The idea of having a Boite where you can sit for hours and flirt with girls and socialize after work (and not necessarily session with a girl) is fairly unique, but not exclusive to Rio. But I have not traveled extensively to other cities beyond Rio, SP, BH, Belem, Salvador and a few others. No idea what is in Porto Alegre and Curitiba. Perhaps others will be able to fill in the blanks.

Pure Power
01-24-09, 02:34
Purepower,

Glad to see you made it to Rio isn't it everything I said it would be? LOL don't Rio blow Costa Rica out of the water? Don't forget to try out Club Help before you leave.

Kid Cisco


You were right my friend :-) I will call you when I get back to USA.

Later

Pure Power
01-24-09, 02:43
Well just got back from Monte Carlo again. Banged the same girl I saw last night, she wouldn't leave me alone. GFE all the way. She slipped Mr B in without a condom for a split second. I almost went with my instinct, but my better half got the best of me :-)

The hour went by really fast. She is coming to stay with me tomorrow, so I will post pics of this monster bunda. Just didn't have my camera with me in the room.

Now the hard part. I have a girl from L'uomo and Monte Carlo that both wanna hang out tomorrow, realistically I can only hang with one. Tomorrow is gonna be a rough day in Copacabana :-)

Jergens007
01-24-09, 10:56
Hey guys. Let me ask you all something. Hopefully someone can explain this to me.

Why would a girl prefer to work at a Terma (Centaurus, Lumo, 4x4) vs finding customers at HELP?

Don't they make more money at HELP? And able to set their own hours etc?

Why would a beautiful girl work at a terma instead of help? You can only imagine they will get more money working at HELP right?

Do termas offer some kind of benefits? Like medical, life insurance etc?

What do all your girls tell you why they work at a terma vs going to HELP.

Thanks all.

Brazil Specialist
01-24-09, 11:43
- The best place for an accomodation is copa right?

If you like beach and want to be near Help and stuff, yes.

I know a few guys who are "bottom dwellers" and like the cheap downtown brothels and termas. They take a hotel straight down town Rio. Cheaper, and walking distance to cheap great sex from US$ 5 per pop and up. Yes, I know, the $5 places are sleasy, but for $15 you occasionally get places that have nicer beds then a basic top termas room and are already half way clean. For R$ 70 you can get a GREAT big room with great cleanliness and very nice girls)

If you want to go to the beach, from downtown, you can still take the Metro.

There is always Barra da Tijuca (far away and inconvenient if you don't have a car but great beaches) and Ipanema (nicer neighborhood but they also much easier call the police on you if your help hags start some screaming fit and act up on you)

So yes, the average tourist would pick Copacabana, maybe Ipanema. For experts, all is open, from downtown centro to Barra.



Can you recommand a girl-friendly hotel or appartment (prince range 50-70 eur/day)

I rent suites in my own apartment, with great aircon, great internet, great mattresses, and great advice by the local resident whoring expert.

Don't expect advice about the tourist hangout termas and Help, I don't go there. Of course I can tell you how to get there and give you some advice. I like karlamodels.net, private model introductions, next door type semi-pros, cheap brothels, etc. Fresh young beginners .....

If you send me a private message, make sure you tell me how to contact you, you might not have private message privileges (or sign up for a full membership so you have private message privileges).

You can bet that Kid Cisco now will start a flame war about me sneaking into your room to lie next to your chick in your bed and other funny slanderous drivel. Please either ignore him or report his flames to the webmaster.

For those who don't like my apartment there are plenty of other choices. Princess Promenade Copacabana seems to be one of the best, in Xavier da Silveira, close to Help, close to me too. Google for the street name and hotel name.

Rumors are that you can get them cheaper through bobby's agency, blemitonrio4travel http://blameitonrio4travel.com/ . Try yourself and compare rate quotes.
Bobby is a good source for apartments. Maybe the experts find some cheaper stuff, but he has a decade long track record for solid service and reasonable pricing.

There is also Kenn at http://ez-riorentals.com/ ez-riorentals

Someone might try to post on good downtown hotel locations. There are cheap decent hotels right behind Cinelandia, on Senador Dantas and ?? streets. In Gloria and Flamengo, you find even cheaper hotels, but they are little bit inconvenient locations. Avoid Lapa and some other bad downtown neighborhoods. Also note that downtown rio is usually quite safe during the day and quite unsafe at night.



- Is the wheater good in September?

From my memory, September is deep winter with fairly low temperatures (for Rio of course) and very little rain. Someone please consult a climate web site and confirm.

Jan 156
01-24-09, 12:29
Someone might try to post on good downtown hotel locations. There are cheap decent hotels right behind Cinelandia, on Senador Dantas and ?? streets. In Gloria and Flamengo, you find even cheaper hotels, but they are little bit inconvenient locations. Avoid Lapa and some other bad downtown neighborhoods. Also note that downtown rio is usually quite safe during the day and quite unsafe at night.


Very handy for Carnaval Sambodrome and 20yds from 1R a minute and a few hundred yards from Lapa is a hotel off Tiradentes near Carioca station. It's opposite the Ibis hotel (which is also good, girl friendly, but nearer normal prices). The rooms are not that bright or lovely but it was only 40R a night last time I looked. Big old building, it's just called Rio Hotel or something. If you go to Ibis and don't want to pay their rates then this dive will probably have rooms even at this time of year. As Braz.Sp says. not for beginners. You want to know your way around before staying in Centro. Oh, and they don't speak any English at all. (Ibis does). There's also a place next to Ibis that is just as new and sparkly but fractionally cheaper. You can't miss these three places - just go to Rua Carioca and they're on the left as you get to Tiradentes Square.

The other side of the square is home to some open air bars and probably the smelliest *****s I've ever seen in my life.

There's cheaper places in Centro north of Pres.Vargas but I haven't been inside them. This is at least a big solid place.

If you carry on along Carioca towards the park and just beyond as well, there's a lot of reasonably priced guest houses. Some of them have a 'family hotel' policy though so check first. Some you could rent by the hour. The ones in between I suppose would be the most attractive. Buses to VM from here, only a few stops, plus all the cheapo Centro shops, and even a nice park to go jogging in and watch the cats and peacocks sunning and the hobos sleeping.

Casarao is also almost adjacent to Tiradentes and you can get a very nice girl there at times for just a little more than the 1R a minute places opposite. The adult cinema does strip shows and bj's in your lap as you watch but as the trannies mix with the girls in the dark there I've never taken the offer.

El Greco
01-24-09, 14:35
I was at 4x4, montecarlo, l'uomo, solarium21, so besides the centaurus that I still did not try, which other termas do you suggest me as enough easy to find, good girls and not too much far from copa ? So I will go and then I will report as well.

Thanks...

A couple of them that I can think of is RIO ANTIGO in Gloria where all TV's hang out at night and MV30 in the center. Check Sperto's map for them.

On the far side is CLUB 400 in Barra da Tijuca and ANCHORA in Recreio.

Langer
01-24-09, 17:30
Well things are looking up a bit, went to Monte Carlo and it was ok, not great but ok, good buzz, and a good number of girls, with about 3 or 4 good looking ones. This place has got really much better, the last time I was here in September I left without taking a girl. Not last night!! I met a girl I knew from Termas 65, (black, big titties) I took her and her friend Julia (white, long hair fake boobies) for an hour, both had a good attitude, good session with both DATY and giving a good bbj. After that they licked my asshole clean and we got down to some serious business. Both did anal like real pros :-)

Later I went back down to the bar where some drunk Brazilian guy was making an asshole of himself. The girls told me the night before some American guys was on the dance floor trying to dance funk, they told me they had never seen anything so stupid looking, also seems he dropped his cell phone and didn't notice. I thought ouch was that me! Anyway overall a good experience and worth a visit.

ChicoBarca
01-24-09, 20:29
If you like beach and want to be near Help and stuff, yes.

I know a few guys who are "bottom dwellers" and like the cheap downtown brothels and termas. They take a hotel straight down town Rio. Cheaper, and walking distance to cheap great sex from US$ 5 per pop and up. Yes, I know, the $5 places are sleasy, but for $15 you occasionally get places that have nicer beds then a basic top termas room and are already half way clean. For R$ 70 you can get a GREAT big room with great cleanliness and very nice girls)

If you want to go to the beach, from downtown, you can still take the Metro.

There is always Barra da Tijuca (far away and inconvenient if you don't have a car but great beaches) and Ipanema (nicer neighborhood but they also much easier call the police on you if your help hags start some screaming fit and act up on you)

So yes, the average tourist would pick Copacabana, maybe Ipanema. For experts, all is open, from downtown centro to Barra.

I rent suites in my own apartment, with great aircon, great internet, great mattresses, and great advice by the local resident whoring expert.

Don't expect advice about the tourist hangout termas and Help, I don't go there. Of course I can tell you how to get there and give you some advice. I like karlamodels.net, private model introductions, next door type semi-pros, cheap brothels, etc. Fresh young beginners.

If you send me a private message, make sure you tell me how to contact you, you might not have private message privileges (or sign up for a full membership so you have private message privileges).

You can bet that Kid Cisco now will start a flame war about me sneaking into your room to lie next to your chick in your bed and other funny slanderous drivel. Please either ignore him or report his flames to the webmaster.

For those who don't like my apartment there are plenty of other choices. Princess Promenade Copacabana seems to be one of the best, in Xavier da Silveira, close to Help, close to me too. Google for the street name and hotel name.

Rumors are that you can get them cheaper through bobby's agency, blemitonrio4travel http://blameitonrio4travel.com/. Try yourself and compare rate quotes. Bobby is a good source for apartments. Maybe the experts find some cheaper stuff, but he has a decade long track record for solid service and reasonable pricing.

There is also Kenn at http://ez-riorentals.com/ ez-riorentals

Someone might try to post on good downtown hotel locations. There are cheap decent hotels right behind Cinelandia, on Senador Dantas and? Streets. In Gloria and Flamengo, you find even cheaper hotels, but they are little bit inconvenient locations. Avoid Lapa and some other bad downtown neighborhoods. Also note that downtown Rio is usually quite safe during the day and quite unsafe at night.

From my memory, September is deep winter with fairly low temperatures (for Rio of course) and very little rain. Someone please consult a climate web site and confirm.Hi Guys,

When it comes to renting apartments in Rio. If you are 2-3 guys looking for a great time and a up scale apartment. An italian guy named Ric has a great option. It's not that cheap, but I can garantuee a great time in Rio there. And the most important point. The girls love the apartment. That means. Both girls from Help and termas have returned just to hang out with you. Check out this site. www.posto8.com. Good luck. And enjoy.

Chicobarca

DaveWave
01-24-09, 23:39
as lukasek's recent report suggested, many girls are asking for 400, 500 and 600 reais for an evening's worth of love.

these prices are absurd gentlemen. you can do better--even if you're older, balding and walk with a limp. and even in high season. as has been suggested, negotiate! tell her what you'll pay. if not, walk away--that's it.

one of the most astute observations i saw on this site (some time ago) was about brasil and rio in particular--what happens when all the guys start paying ridiculously high prices?

well, the answer is brasilian men get involved. they want a piece of the action. which brasilian men? like brasilian police. wasn't there just a report on the blitzes on rua rainha elizabetha? carioca cops planting powder on gringos and making them pay the fine or multa? yes these cops know that gringos are forking over major bucks and they want a part of it. taxi drivers, beach chair guys, waiters, etc. when you overpay the brasilian men want a piece of it and it ain't pleasant. this is blowback in the most classic terms.

of course places like termas' are not a place for negotiation. but beaches, cafes and the the helpee disco are where you should stick to you guns. even if you can afford it, don't add more liquidity to the system than it deserves.

thanks for reading.

Brazil Specialist
01-25-09, 01:07
Very handy for Carnaval Sambodrome and 20yds from 1R a minute and a few hundred yards from Lapa is a hotel off Tiradentes near Carioca station. It's opposite the Ibis hotel (which is also good, girl friendly, but nearer normal prices). The rooms are not that bright or lovely but it was only 40R a night last time I looked.

I would be worried about staying at Tiradentes, a very iffy and kind of unsafe area at night. That is why the hotels are so cheap. Of course, if you have business right there, like the sambodrome, or you really know what you are doing, go ahead.

Cinelandia area with Rua Senador Dantas, Rua Alvaro Alvim, Alcindo Guanabara etc are a little safer. There are a few hotels there, but not so rock bottom prices. But I think for 60 or so you might find something (just a guess)

Brazil Specialist
01-25-09, 01:43
Hey guys. Let me ask you all something. Hopefully someone can explain this to me.

Why would a girl prefer to work at a Terma (Centaurus, Lumo, 4x4) vs finding customers at HELP?

Don't they make more money at HELP? And able to set their own hours etc?

Why would a beautiful girl work at a terma instead of help? You can only imagine they will get more money working at HELP right?

Do termas offer some kind of benefits? Like medical, life insurance etc?

What do all your girls tell you why they work at a terma vs going to HELP.

Thanks all.

the more interesting question is why some beautiful girls work at R$ 20 dives.

Some of them could work at Centaurus, lots of them could work at so why on earth do they work for half their share of R$ 20? (or half of R$ 70 at nicer executive massage parlors)

Two answers to that questions:
* the girls don't know better. karlamodels.net and cheap brothels advertise in newspapers, looking for sex workers. Termas don't

* Cheap termas tend to open at daytime. 9 am to 7pm or so. Fairly easy to tell mom you work in a store or in an office. Try to explain why you work from 10 pm to 6 am. There are not too many night shift jobs around you can deceive your family with.


Now termas vs. Help.
Some girls prefer security and controlled environment of a terma. They don't have to fight for customers in competition with dangerous jealous favela rats who often violently defend their turf in Help.

Girls can make pretty good money at a terma. 1000 to 2500 R$ a week. Let us say 150 per program for their share. 3 programs a night = R$ 350, 5 nights a week = R$ 1650.

At Help you need to pay admission, a taxi to take you home, have to follow guys who could abduct you to dangerous places. And few girls manage to do 2-3 guys in a night at Help.

I once met a girl in a strip club in the Princesa Isabel/Barbarella area (I don't know why these are not more popular with you guys, not Barbarella but the other bars nearby on Princesa isabel). She had a great D cup rack. She would charge R$ 300 for an hour, would not budge, always do 2 guys a night, thus R$ 600 a night. Seeing her D cup body in a strip got her customers very easily.

So all is preferences. Termas give security and regularity. Help gives freedom.

Now the fact that help is getting taken over by ghetto girls is an additional minus. Decent girls feel afraid to venture into that ghetto with its dangerous visitors.

In the more remote past there were many girls that went to Help, looking for a romantic relationship and potential marriage with a gringo. This seems to be much less the case now.

I knew such a girl: I brought her over from Porto Velho in Rondonia. When I kind of got tired of her, she asked to be allowed to go to Help. She did no programs, or only with marriage candidates. 3 years later she stopped by with a cute litte swedish Baby and a blue eyed husband twice or triple her age.

Brazil Specialist
01-25-09, 02:02
Casarao is also almost adjacent to Tiradentes and you can get a very nice girl there at times for just a little more than the 1R a minute places opposite.

Casarao is a great place. Rua da Carioca, an even number, probably like 44 or so (my off hand guess, not the correct number)



The adult cinema does strip shows and bj's in your lap as you watch but as the trannies mix with the girls in the dark there I've never taken the offer.

There are GIRLS giving blow jobs there? which girls? from where? for what price? The strippers give blow jobs?

From what I know the trannies mix with real gay men giving blow jobs. Aren't they free? sorry, I never checked this in detail. But a few years ago when I took a short cursory look, I did not see girls giving blow jobs. Please explain in detail.

I am talking about the movie theater, I think it is called cine luiz, again just a guess from my memory. It is about opposite the street from Casarao. The movie theater has some old old sex flicks and 2 strip shows per day, at certain fixed times. And it has a bunch of galleries where some raunchy activities happen.

All this is on Rua da Carioca between Carioca metro station and Praca Tiradentes.

Jan 156
01-25-09, 03:03
Casarao is a great place. Rua da Carioca, an even number, probably like 44 or so (my off hand guess, not the correct number)

40 I think. Bright red canopy. Harder to miss than the grubby one across the road (who has a darling leaflet helper outside - Patricia I think - never been able to lay her)



There are GIRLS giving blow jobs there? which girls?

Yeah it surprised me too. Mostly it's trannies. But I have spotted one or two real girls - not gorgeous mind you. And I don't like negotiating in the dark anyway.

I don't think the strippers do BJs. And they are pretty ugly mostly. The place really has little to recommend it except it's a sight to behold. Also if you've been bustling around town then the porno puts you back in the mood for some shifty in No.59 as you don't exactly get much time between 'yes' and 'trousers off.'

Also it's somewhere to sit down if you just want to collect your thoughts without buying any sucos or that.

Jamaicanceo
01-25-09, 07:30
Originally Posted by Jergens007

Do termas offer some kind of benefits? Like medical, life insurance etc?The girls received paid weekly medical checkups, according to a Monte Carlo girl I dated. This is a chief benefit since condoms can't protect mongers from genital warts , and our love for BBBJs and CIM finishes. Remember, genital herpes is transfered from oral herpes.

If a woman at Help or a R$2 a hour bang hut must feed her kids, she isn't going to let herpes get between her and our money. So there is a benefit to mongers and garotas a like by the existence of high end termas. Additiinally, termas garotas receive both physical and monetary security.

Always Randy
01-25-09, 15:11
A real. (cold) princess.

Here we are for the daily report

A sooo cute dark hair and eyes, skin white as milk a 160cm for less than 50kg, but good fake titts and so nice little, but high ass. She was alone and instead to wait if she was with somebody I started to play fast and I asked if she spoke english. So in a couple of minutes we were having a nice conversations, smiles, jokes and her english good, or bad LOL, as my english.

She is from belo horizonte, she said in holiday in Rio. Byt the conversation I started almost to think she was a semipro, cause when I asked her if we can go to see Buzios or Rio together, she said, I do not know you well.

We agree to go to help, I paid her entrance, but let to see, she was very good, she no smokes and wanted to drink only water, the kind of girl I did not see here in Rio so often, she looks normal girl. Then she said. I work here. Ok, for how much. Now. How much do you think such a girl can charge?

6--0--0 reais!

I did want to smile, but I did not, so I asked her, what she does or not does, she said, she likes to make everything clear at the beginning, so. She does no anal, big miss for Lukasek, and when I asked if she likes milk. She said on her breast yes. Hm. I was sure I did not take her and not only for the price so high, but cause she really started to behave as a princess.

You know I was almost sure I could easily get her price down. But my question was, am I gonna to get a GFE with her or not?

The answer was very easy if you consider, that I was, luckily, curious enough to ask her such an obvious question that in this case had a non obvious answer. Do you like DATY?

She said. Usually when I work I never let somebody to lick me, but I like you, so. So ok, you can lick me. At that moment I realized I did not take her neither for 50 reais, cause what I hate more is sex with such a princess, typical west european attitude.

So I told her, your price is too high and even if I like you and the connection is good, I am here 2 months so I can wait for sex. She said, she does no care about the prices of the other girls and that this is her price.

I stayed 2 hours more, she came to me another 2 times asking me why I was alone. I smiled and I said, that she is alone too.

And nobody spoke to her, she was alone all the time and went away alone, very strange cause she is really very nice, but maybe everybody already know her price.

I went then to balcony, erotica and niko's. I was so horny that I had a bit problem to fall asleep.

So at least I did not get boring even if I had no sex, I got a cheap evening.

PokaHi Lukasek,

I was at Help on Tuesday night. I wonder if this is the same girl. Was her name Vivian? She is tall, brunette, white skin, looks more classy than the other girls there. No smoking or drinkiy. Simple but elegant. Stands by her self and always strokes her hair behind her ears. She said she was only in Rio for about 10 days and leaving in the next 2 days.

We saw 6 or 7 guys come up to her and she brushed them off. When I talked to her to see what the story was, she said she did not want to talk about dates. So why is she here? Was she working?

Eventually she did go with a couple of guys (the ones who bought her a drink) to the balcony to chat and did leave with one guy. But he was nothing special. She seemed picky and definitely like a princess!

A. R.

Heyholetsgo
01-25-09, 21:38
Do you suspect that Centaurus charges Brazilians less than the R$400 for 40 minutes?You guys are over-thinking this gringo tax BS in termas. I'm a carioca and get charged the same R$400 as you are in Centaurus and people try to rip me off as much as any of you.

Madd Love
01-26-09, 14:08
the more interesting question is why some beautiful girls work at R$ 20 dives.

Some of them could work at Centaurus, lots of them could work at so why on earth do they work for half their share of R$ 20? (or half of R$ 70 at nicer executive massage parlors)

Two answers to that questions:
* the girls don't know better. karlamodels.net and cheap brothels advertise in newspapers, looking for sex workers. Termas don't

* Cheap termas tend to open at daytime. 9 am to 7pm or so. Fairly easy to tell mom you work in a store or in an office. Try to explain why you work from 10 pm to 6 am. There are not too many night shift jobs around you can deceive your family with.


Now termas vs. Help.
Some girls prefer security and controlled environment of a terma. They don't have to fight for customers in competition with dangerous jealous favela rats who often violently defend their turf in Help.

Girls can make pretty good money at a terma. 1000 to 2500 R$ a week. Let us say 150 per program for their share. 3 programs a night = R$ 350, 5 nights a week = R$ 1650.

At Help you need to pay admission, a taxi to take you home, have to follow guys who could abduct you to dangerous places. And few girls manage to do 2-3 guys in a night at Help.

I once met a girl in a strip club in the Princesa Isabel/Barbarella area (I don't know why these are not more popular with you guys, not Barbarella but the other bars nearby on Princesa isabel). She had a great D cup rack. She would charge R$ 300 for an hour, would not budge, always do 2 guys a night, thus R$ 600 a night. Seeing her D cup body in a strip got her customers very easily.

So all is preferences. Termas give security and regularity. Help gives freedom.

Now the fact that help is getting taken over by ghetto girls is an additional minus. Decent girls feel afraid to venture into that ghetto with its dangerous visitors.

In the more remote past there were many girls that went to Help, looking for a romantic relationship and potential marriage with a gringo. This seems to be much less the case now.

I knew such a girl: I brought her over from Porto Velho in Rondonia. When I kind of got tired of her, she asked to be allowed to go to Help. She did no programs, or only with marriage candidates. 3 years later she stopped by with a cute litte swedish Baby and a blue eyed husband twice or triple her age.


I disagree with some of the analysis of why a good looking girl would rather work in a low end terma.

I have heard and agreed with someone that a girl who works in a low end terma can makes just as much or more than a girl in a high end terma or a girl that works in Help. A girl who makes R20 for 20 minutes can stack her paper many times in one day for R20 minutes a session verses a high end terma o an all nighter at help. Its just a preference of where the girl wants to work.

Exec Talent
01-26-09, 14:49
You guys are over-thinking this gringo tax BS in termas. I'm a carioca and get charged the same R$400 as you are in Centaurus and people try to rip me off as much as any of you.

Your knowledge, experiences and insights are very welcome. Please let us hear more from you and your Brazilian friends.

Jan 156
01-26-09, 16:41
I disagree with some of the analysis of why a good looking girl would rather work in a low end terma.

Yeah. No rules of course, but some of them choose low of low for financial reasons too. If you know BA85 you know the second floor is the sh*ttiest. It's almost as if they pay someone to make sure no-one cleans the floor, replaces lightbulbs or, heaven forbid, wipe a mattress down. There is hardly room to fuck in the cubicles and the mattresses or too uncomfortable to lie on. But there's a girl there I've known for years who's better looking than most of the girls on the other floors that have fairly civilised surroundings at roughly the same price. I've asked why she stays there and she points out that turnover is faster than any of the other floors. It is. No-one wants to hang about having a beer. And punters don't need much encouragement to stay more than the minimum time. Then there's an escort from Barra who's worked at VM for years. Same reason. Most nights she is continually busy and just rakes the moola in without any daft travelling about and acting posh.

Eros74
01-26-09, 16:45
Hi Lukasek,

I was at Help on Tuesday night. I wonder if this is the same girl. Was her name Vivian? She is tall, brunette, white skin, looks more classy than the other girls there. No smoking or drinkiy. Simple but elegant. Stands by her self and always strokes her hair behind her ears. She said she was only in Rio for about 10 days and leaving in the next 2 days.

We saw 6 or 7 guys come up to her and she brushed them off. When I talked to her to see what the story was, she said she did not want to talk about dates. So why is she here? Was she working?

Eventually she did go with a couple of guys (the ones who bought her a drink) to the balcony to chat and did leave with one guy. But he was nothing special. She seemed picky and definitely like a princess!

A. R.

Hello, I do not remember her name, however I think she was the only one enough brave to ask for 600 reais. Think she was with shoes not more high than 165cm and not more than 50kg, fake breast for sure, skin totally white, from belo horizonte and she has a green shirt and blue jeans and yes look much more snob than the other girls.From then I still no more seen her, however she told me she came to live to Rio 1 year ago and she actually lives here.

Madd Love
01-26-09, 19:59
Yeah. No rules of course, but some of them choose low of low for financial reasons too. If you know BA85 you know the second floor is the sh*ttiest. It's almost as if they pay someone to make sure no-one cleans the floor, replaces lightbulbs or, heaven forbid, wipe a mattress down. There is hardly room to fuck in the cubicles and the mattresses or too uncomfortable to lie on. But there's a girl there I've known for years who's better looking than most of the girls on the other floors that have fairly civilised surroundings at roughly the same price. I've asked why she stays there and she points out that turnover is faster than any of the other floors. It is. No-one wants to hang about having a beer. And punters don't need much encouragement to stay more than the minimum time. Then there's an escort from Barra who's worked at VM for years. Same reason. Most nights she is continually busy and just rakes the moola in without any daft travelling about and acting posh.I agree with you too, but there are many reasons they choose low end verses high end. I just wanted to point out the other side of why some of them work at low end termas.

Marcop 12
01-27-09, 21:39
After being used to all the high end termas and now reading some reports on the low end ones, i really want to give them a try and 'new experiences, n all that' unfortunetly theres been no names addresses, anyone help me out with some info on them, location, name and general setup when inside.

Thks

Ryjerrob
01-28-09, 02:59
After being used to all the high end termas and now reading some reports on the low end ones, i really want to give them a try and 'new experiences, n all that' unfortunetly theres been no names addresses, anyone help me out with some info on them, location, name and general setup when inside.

Thks


http://bitchmaps.com/index_pt.html

Jan 156
01-28-09, 03:53
Has anyone taken out short-term (one to two months) gym membership recently - what did you pay and where (not including classes) please?

Bubba Boy
01-28-09, 12:15
Gym's are about R80 - R140 depending on the gym. There may be a small joining fee. Whatever you do don't sign a contract for x number of months, it is a ***** to break it. Gyms are everywhere

Jan 156
01-28-09, 12:27
Gym's are about R80 - R140 depending on the gym. There may be a small joining fee. Whatever you do don't sign a contract for x number of months, it is a ***** to break it. Gyms are everywhere

That sounds about right. I can never remember what I paid then the time before so have to bluff it.

Madd Love
01-28-09, 15:38
Word is officially out that Help is closing after Carnival. I know this has been going on for years but wanted to know if anyone in Rio has heard anything? There has been News articles this month about this.

Jake993
01-28-09, 17:16
Has anyone taken out short-term (one to two months) gym membership recently - what did you pay and where (not including classes) please? PROFORMA - In Impanema on Prudente de Morais just west (southwest towards Leblon) past Maria Quiteria on the right side. Excellent facilities, great staff, nice babes. Cost was about $35 for the week I seem to remember.

Koolkid
01-28-09, 18:12
Word is officially out that Help is closing after Carnival. I know this has been going on for years but wanted to know if anyone in Rio has heard anything? There has been News articles this month about this.Shame if this is true, as I plan on arriving in May and wanted to see this place for myself!

Prosal
01-28-09, 18:27
PROFORMA - In Impanema on Prudente de Morais just west (southwest towards Leblon) past Maria Quiteria on the right side.
Watch your ass (literally) at a gym in this area.

It's not far from Gay Farme (the area between Farme de Amoedo and Vinicius de Moraes).

;)

Spinnerman
01-28-09, 18:31
Word is officially out that Help is closing after Carnival. I know this has been going on for years but wanted to know if anyone in Rio has heard anything? There has been News articles this month about this.
Yeah it's closing , that's why they just took a month to do a big renovation there, new staircase ,new booths , the back booths are totally re-done , Of course they would do that a month before it closes.
They raised they price yesterday 25/35 to 28/38
The only thing that is consistent is every time there are rumours of it closing , the entrance price goes up.
According to one of the owners I was talking to a month ago, "yes it will close , in a few years"

Eros74
01-28-09, 21:30
A short report just to more or less suggest you to no go there....

It is far almost one hour from copacabana, taxi qith taxametr was 58 reais, it is after Barra.

Inside too music loud and too cold, really cold.

About 20 girls and.... 80 men...yes too many men and only 3 were nice girls, one amazing one but she has almost 15 men close to her all the time.

1 hour in normal room it is 210 reais.

So no cheap, no close, but no one turist and maybe I was in a non good day, cause my friend told me last year were about 20 girls and 10 men.

The only good thing, it closes to 3:00.

www.pariscafe.com.br

Jake993
01-28-09, 22:40
Watch your ass (literally) at a gym in this area.

It's not far from Gay Farme (the area between Farme de Amoedo and Vinicius de Moraes).

;)Relax Prosal - it's just around the corner from Emporio. You are more likely to get laid by a drunk non-pro than get accosted by a queer. But thanks for the Gay Watch warning.

Madd Love
01-28-09, 22:49
Yeah it's closing , that's why they just took a month to do a big renovation there, new staircase ,new booths , the back booths are totally re-done , Of course they would do that a month before it closes.
They raised they price yesterday 25/35 to 28/38
The only thing that is consistent is every time there are rumours of it closing , the entrance price goes up.
According to one of the owners I was talking to a month ago, "yes it will close , in a few years"


If they do close after carnival all the business in the area may be hit hard, because that is a central location for mongers. Now mongers might want to stay closer to Terma's, or other spots. Maybe that's what the government wanted?? just to move the GDP action away from that area to another area. You are right what a great time to start doing reservations and raising the entrance fee.

Eros74
01-28-09, 23:33
Hi all,

yesterday I took for the first time in the 2 weeks a girl from help to my apartment. She was very nice, tall and thin blond and the time was about 3:00, she looked normal, no drunk, we had a nice conversation for almost one hour so I was prettu sure I could have NO trouble with her, but....

First of all inside the taxi, the driver asked me if I want drug...obviously I said no as I never took drugs in all my life, surely I do not start at 34yo, but the problems started later in the flat....

Once we arrived she opened her handbag and take out from little plastic white powder...I asked her, what are you doing, she very calm said, no problem, we do half and half..

In that moment I realized that if police stopped me, I could have some troubles...but however I had to go out of that situation... I told her, go back home and do what you want, but surely in my flat forget to take it !

She started to get a bit crazy and to offend me, she said:" how is it possible I found the only one that does not like cocaine? You do not know what you are gonna to lose !"

She again said: " let's take it, try it and you will see, we will fuck till morning as you never did before ". When I said no ! She first started to offend me, to tell I am stupid and so on, later when she saw I was really calm and I just told her, here you have 50 reais, go back to help and you will find another one, she started to cry and to say that I do not like her, that she feels ugly and so on....

Shit...the last thing I need to have a pro with cocaine crying loud in my flat at the morning....

After about one hour I was able to send her out with 50 reais, actually to get her out it look to me as a bargain and I immediately felt very good, but my question here is.... if a normal girl with normal face, no make up, no drunk, with a face I could describe just "water and soap" is drug addict and if the first girl I took from Help in 2 weeks here had cocaine in her handbag....how many girls, that look more hardcore pro use cocaine in help ???????

Maybe I will take out of help another one girl, but I will try to pay even more attention, cause what I had really now scare me, cause even if you get your eyes open it cannot be enough here in Rio.

And btw All the night I drink no alcol, just coca cola and water, cause I have a bit of flu for the cold I took at paris cafe, so I was no drunk, neither a little.

Keep eyes open dear friends and have, safe, fun.

Beavis
01-28-09, 23:43
Just because she had some coke does not mean she is a drug addict. If you steer away from every working girl in the world that does a toot or smokes a joint you will have very slim pickings to chose from. Maybe you don't do any drugs but put yourself in her place. She has to sleep with whatever slob (not saying that you are) in the world that will pay her. Don't you think she deserves at least a small crutch to stand on. If you were aware of the percentage of working girls that use drugs it would scare you. As long as she isn't jabbing needles in her arm have fun with her and say goodbye. I think you are being a little paranoid.

Perkele
01-29-09, 00:32
Just because she had some coke does not mean she is a drug addict. If you steer away from every working girl in the world that does a toot or smokes a joint you will have very slim pickings to chose from. Maybe you don't do any drugs but put yourself in her place. She has to sleep with whatever slob (not saying that you are) in the world that will pay her. Don't you think she deserves at least a small crutch to stand on. If you were aware of the percentage of working girls that use drugs it would scare you. As long as she isn't jabbing needles in her arm have fun with her and say goodbye. I think you are being a little paranoid.
Let's look at this from another point of view.
1. That GDP put a monger in a situation that might have ended really bad. Police doesn't really care in whose posession the drugs are.
2. There are lots of GDP's who do not use drugs.
Say what ever you want, but cocaine is very strong and addictive drug. Nobody should use it.

Eros74
01-29-09, 00:47
...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...

Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.

Perkele....thanks...

Jake993
01-29-09, 01:08
...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...

Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.

Perkele....thanks...Yeah that's a bummer. I usually like to steer clear of the coke heads. No big deal but it's just not my thing although I have always wondered what it would be like to screw a babe who's ripped out of her head.

It's always a bummer when you pick wrong..... especially when they are hot looking. Just goes to show you, "You can't judge a book by the cover". All the more reason to INTERVIEW thoroughly.

Dutch44
01-29-09, 01:27
Hi all,

yesterday I took for the first time in the 2 weeks a girl from help to my apartment. She was very nice, tall and thin blond and the time was about 3:00, she looked normal, no drunk, we had a nice conversation for almost one hour so I was pretty sure I could have NO trouble with her, but....


Hi Lukasek,

I was at help at the same time. I think I know which tall (thin) blonde you mean. She has a nice body, but the skin on her face is a little 'bad' (as in many spots) and looks a bit red. She looks quite european and very sexy btw. I spent time with her in 2007 and was amazed to see she still frequents HELP. I do not know if she was on anything in 2007, but she did feel a bit 'nervous' and she may have been using stuff.

Just know that you can find nice girls at help, but there are plenty 'nasty' ones too that just wanna do a quick job and go back to help asap. So make clear that is you pay her a certain amount for 2 hours (say 100-200 reais) she knows she should stay the whole time, and not leave after she makes you cum. I also always ask if the girl does everything. (voce faz tudo?) Yesterday I forgot to ask that very basic question and it turned out there many thing my girl would not do. Including kissing, which is a must for me.

That is the advantage of the termas and escort services. You are almost always sure the girl does everything. (or almost everything)

Did you have any experiences yet with escort?

I had a real nice session today with a girl from CIAPLUS.

enjoy,
Dutch44

Dutch44
01-29-09, 01:56
Hi all,

I took out several girls from Help this week. 1 bad, 3 good. This afternoon I spent 90 minutes with a help girl who almost felt like a non-pro or natural, for just 100 R$.

It has been said many times. Don't overpay. I think the going rate is some 100 r$ for 1 hour, and 200 for 2-3 hours and 300 for whole night. (plus taxi)

Deeper into the night (say after 02h00) you can negotiate that down more. Of course there are princesses that think they should get 500 or more. Dont do it. 500 r$ is more than a minimum monthly wage here. It would be crazy.

Just make sure you scan the girl well and do not let her take too much initiative, or she may think you are a stupid gringo. Then make clear agreements on how much you pay and how long she will stay. Also make sure you know what she will and will not do. Perhaps even write it down on paper.
After that: show the girl respect and treat her well, most garotas will treat you likewise if you do this.

Always negotiate with the garota. Don't overpay. Or did I already say this?

BTW Help prices went up yesterday to 28r$ before midnight and 38 r$ after midnight.

have fun,
Dutch

Tommy Boy
01-29-09, 02:03
Does anyone know if Help is closing for good?

Ryjerrob
01-29-09, 02:20
Let's look at this from another point of view.
1. That GDP put a monger in a situation that might have ended really bad. Police doesn't really care in whose posession the drugs are.
2. There are lots of GDP's who do not use drugs.
Say what ever you want, but cocaine is very strong and addictive drug. Nobody should use it.

I was at a beach party aa few years ago in Copa. There were a few people smoking a little maryjane. I didn't care, but refused when I was offered. There were about 100 people there, where the drinks were many. I knew a few girls, and that that was it. Other than that, I haven't actually seen anyone doing drugs. I hear stories, but stay away from that scene.

"Cocaine is a hell of a drug...................................."

Bizzie
01-29-09, 04:38
Does anyone know if Help is closing for good?
Yes it is.

Lorenzo
01-29-09, 06:17
....She has to sleep with whatever slob (not saying that you are) in the world that will pay her....I think you are being a little paranoid.
She doesn't HAVE to sleep with anybody. She CHOOSES to sleep with whomever she does. Let's dispense with this paternalistic bullshit and start treating these girls like the adults that they are. And I don't think Lukasek is being paranoid at all. Being in the company of someone possessing drugs makes you a perfect target for a police shakedown.

Jamaicanceo
01-29-09, 06:33
Does anyone know if Help is closing for good?There ought to be a "Help Rumor Closing Forum" so the same question can be asked and answered over and over by those who are worried the most about Help closing.

Jamaicanceo
01-29-09, 06:45
...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...

Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.

Perkele....thanks...Lukasek,

This is my thinking: when a garota is in my flat she is my guest. Therefore, she can either do what I say for the agreed price, or get the hell out of my apartment. And this "crap" about "you don't like me"? And some add a few tears behind it. So what. Most of the young garotas pull that crap. You are not in Rio to waste your time with BS. Not even the, "I got to help my family" line is your problem.

I am not saying to be mean, but some of those girls will get away with what you allow. Drugs is a definite "no no"! The minute one of them opens a vial of drugs or a joint, she can give the Brazilian Police a blow-job, and more, to prevent herself from getting arrested. What can you do? So kick her out of your flat off the bat. And if you see her again, pay attention to who she socialize with. These girls have a network. If one uses drugs, then most likely her friends do drugs. And in some cases, the police know them.

Beavis
01-29-09, 07:18
She doesn't HAVE to sleep with anybody. She CHOOSES to sleep with whomever she does. Let's dispense with this paternalistic bullshit and start treating these girls like the adults that they are. And I don't think Lukasek is being paranoid at all. Being in the company of someone possessing drugs makes you a perfect target for a police shakedown.

You are right she doesn't have to she chooses to but after a girl has crossed that line less than .0001 % can ever go back to the other side. If you choose to patronize working girls/garotas/putas/hookers/prostitutes/jineteras or whatever word in whatever language you so desire to use there are very few that don't use drugs. If being around (insert your preferred word here) that use drugs makes you paranoid your playground will be very small.

Beavis
01-29-09, 07:22
...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...

Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.

Perkele....thanks...

Hey I agree with you and no they don't usually pull it out but most working girls use drugs to some extent. I have mongered in many countries all over the world and even in small villages in West Africa you will find the girls use some kind of stimulation. They usually don't pull it out because they are stingy with their stash.

Orebell
01-29-09, 07:24
Hey there are more girls than that asking 600 reais. I was at Help the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 25th of Jan. On the night of the 25th a short girl got my attention. To be honest, I would not have given her a second look going through the club. She is short with light brown hair, nice boobs and not a very nice ass. We got to chatting and to be honest she was very friendly. She spoke good english telling me that she only goes with American men. Tells me how much she wants out of Brazil. I believe she was sincere. Then she tells me she wants 600 reais for all night. I countered with 200 which probably too high. She went down to 500 and I went to 250. I probably should have walked away when she said 600. She then went to 400 and I went to 300 and was not budging another inch. I then told her that was my final offer and I am not going above 300. She says for 300 she would come to my apartment the next day but made no mention of for how long. I told her no thank you. I then said I would be around here for another hour and then going back to apartment along unless I find someone. I told her if she changes her mind to let me know before I hooked up with another. All along she kept playing the you do not like me card since I would not take her on her offer. I liked her personality and I think she would been good fun, but price was too much. So off I went to find someone else.

I found a girl I had chatted with briefly two nights before. The girl who offered 600 reais for alll night had said she would get her phone number for me. I was like ok. By the time I saw her again, I was with another girl and about to walk out of the place. I walked right by her and she gave me the dirtiest nastiest look on her face. It was her damn fault for being so greedy. She had mentioned during the conversation that she does not go home with someone every night. Yeah, no kidding. Only a fool would pay her 600 for all night.



Hello, I do not remember her name, however I think she was the only one enough brave to ask for 600 reais. Think she was with shoes not more high than 165cm and not more than 50kg, fake breast for sure, skin totally white, from belo horizonte and she has a green shirt and blue jeans and yes look much more snob than the other girls.From then I still no more seen her, however she told me she came to live to Rio 1 year ago and she actually lives here.

JohnnyBraz
01-29-09, 07:44
You are right she doesn't have to she chooses to but after a girl has crossed that line less than .0001 % can ever go back to the other side. If you choose to patronize working girls/garotas/putas/hookers/prostitutes/jineteras or whatever word in whatever language you so desire to use there are very few that don't use drugs. If being around (insert your preferred word here) that use drugs makes you paranoid your playground will be very small.This time off year upto 50 % off the women in help use cocaine, as alot off the girls there are back from europe etc. (party girls). Fewer will use it after easter.

Jamaicanceo
01-29-09, 09:31
All along she kept playing the you do not like me card since I would not take her on her offer.
I love that line. The chunky pale twins Julia and Juliana love to say that. There must be a garota training academy somewhere in Rio.


I walked right by her and she gave me the dirtiest nastiest look on her face. I also like it when a garota that you've session with sees you around Rio with another on your arm. They act jealous as if they are in a relationship with you. They may even say they saw you with another girl. I usually reply to the english speakers, "And!" Too many mongers get wimpy with the GDP. I'm not saying to be arrogant, but don't be to easy.

Madd Love
01-29-09, 14:50
Hey there are more girls than that asking 600 reais. I was at Help the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 25th of Jan. On the night of the 25th a short girl got my attention. To be honest, I would not have given her a second look going through the club. She is short with light brown hair, nice boobs and not a very nice ass. We got to chatting and to be honest she was very friendly. She spoke good english telling me that she only goes with American men. Tells me how much she wants out of Brazil. I believe she was sincere. Then she tells me she wants 600 reais for all night. I countered with 200 which probably too high. She went down to 500 and I went to 250. I probably should have walked away when she said 600. She then went to 400 and I went to 300 and was not budging another inch. I then told her that was my final offer and I am not going above 300. She says for 300 she would come to my apartment the next day but made no mention of for how long. I told her no thank you. I then said I would be around here for another hour and then going back to apartment along unless I find someone. I told her if she changes her mind to let me know before I hooked up with another. All along she kept playing the you do not like me card since I would not take her on her offer. I liked her personality and I think she would been good fun, but price was too much. So off I went to find someone else.

I found a girl I had chatted with briefly two nights before. The girl who offered 600 reais for alll night had said she would get her phone number for me. I was like ok. By the time I saw her again, I was with another girl and about to walk out of the place. I walked right by her and she gave me the dirtiest nastiest look on her face. It was her damn fault for being so greedy. She had mentioned during the conversation that she does not go home with someone every night. Yeah, no kidding. Only a fool would pay her 600 for all night.


Wow those girls are reaching for the stars with those prices. That is the thing with independent GDP's, they will quote a far fetch price to see if a gringo will go for it, or accept the first offer. I have a firm or a set price for the night too & depending on how my interaction with the girl is. A quote for R600 sounds like a price for a few days not one night.

Xavier
01-29-09, 16:05
I'm not supprised of how the prices develop. If some guys still believe they are in the US and are willing to overpay, the prices will go up further. Why should a girl be satisfied with 600R when she can find idiots willing to pay 700R? You can observe this development for years.

Orebell
01-29-09, 18:20
I had a sort of funny situation happen with me recently. I picked up this 22 year old girl from Help last week. The story she told me was she is on vacation from work and is just picking up a few extra bucks at Help. She says she works as a secretary. I have no reason to not believe her. I get her back to my apartment and I forgot to put some newer towels in the bathroom for her. She comes out of the bathroom asking me who's towel this is with all the make up on it. Oh shit, I got a psycho one on my hands is what I am thinking. I hemmed and hawed and laughed a bit and told her it was my mother's. And I went to get her a fresh towel. She kept asking me about it with this sly smile on her face so I had a good feeling she was just razzing me but not serious. I then said to her that I thought she said she did not like the jealous type. She had mentioned to me earlier that the reason she broke up with her boyfriend was because he was too jealous all the time. Hmm, I wonder why he might be jealous. When I reminded of her what she said, she sort of laughed and went into the bathroom to shower and that was the end of it. Honestly I think she was just playing around with me and maybe it was some sort of turn on for her.

I honest thought perhaps I got a real inexperienced one on my hands here and things are not going to be fun tonight. She comes out of the bathroom after her shower in just her towel and within 2 minutes had the towel off and I was licking her nipples. She was a little hottie.

The little vixen had me up 4 hours later wondering what she and I were going to do today. I was like sleep would be good. But she wanted to go down the the beach. So I dragged myself out of bed and spent about 3 hours with her down at the beach. She had to go do some stuff with her family that day and then off she went. I almost had her talked back into coming back up to the apartment for a quickie but she did not give in and left to go be with her family.

All in all she was fun. It is not too often a 44 year old guy gets to screw a 22 year old girl and then sleep with her and hang out with her for a bit down at the beach. It was fun.


I love that line. The chunky pale twins Julia and Juliana love to say that. There must be a garota training academy somewhere in Rio.

I also like it when a garota that you've session with sees you around Rio with another on your arm. They act jealous as if they are in a relationship with you. They may even say they saw you with another girl. I usually reply to the english speakers, "And!" Too many mongers get wimpy with the GDP. I'm not saying to be arrogant, but don't be to easy.

Juan Lo
01-29-09, 19:24
Dude. How do you think she felt. LMAO. Maybe she thought its not often a 22 yr. Old girl gets to screw a 44 yr old guy also. But we talkin about Brazil. LMAO!

All in all she was fun. It is not too often a 44 year old guy gets to screw a 22 year old girl and then sleep with her and hang out with her for a bit down at the beach. It was fun.[/QUOTE]

Langer
01-29-09, 19:31
I have to laugh all the stupid Guys in Help who believe all the “I’m a student” or “I don’t live in Rio” crap. I have often chatted to and played a game with my puta friends. We’d make up stories to tell the Guys, each story getting one more ridiculous. If the guy believes it I get a wink. Great laugh.

It is simply amazing how guys think they are in a real disco club not a *****house. Getting all puffed up and thinking they are special because some Puta likes their cash.

Ordinary Brazilians say about Help “Where the worst of Brazil meets the worst of the world”. Yes if they know you go to Help they think you are a piece of dirt. Who cares! I love Help as you get a real predatory type of ho there, I love them.

One point of caution, ever notice how few Brazilian men go to Help, while the Termas are full of them, ever wonder why? While there are many reasons one answer is HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases. You ever see an ex -Termas girl in Help, that can mean she failed the health check, don’t purchase her.

Over the last week or so I rented 4 girls from Help, all good. I paid no more than R$300 (all night) and as low as R$150 (bang & return). All did bbbj cim, anal, and licked my ass (always check in advance).

I often take a girl out for a 1 hour quickie for R$150, have to get there early and take them before 1pm, me and the girl return about 2pm. Many times they look for me to pay the entrance, haha, do they think I’m a fool, no way baby. They still will go with me the next time I want them for a quickie. They usually pick a guy up later so they are all happy.

Later in the night after 3am you can get all-nighters for R$300 or less. Always negotiate with the garota, you get some respect, they don’t respect stupid gringos. A good technique is to tell them you have been to Villa Mimosa (R$28 for fuck and suck) earlier that day, and ask them why they are worth more. Sets the transaction in context!

Langer
01-29-09, 19:45
When to Termas Cancun last night, there was not much choice of girls and only a few guys. I took a big-titted 19 year old for an hour. Her name was Mez, she did anal etc and was ok.

When I paid my bill they receptionist left me R$5 short, when I pointed this out to them they said “tip for us” I said “why what service did you give me?” and “You must think I’m American?” They laughed and gave me my money back.

What stupid assholes are tipping receptionist/doormen in Rio? Waiters and girls maybe, but receptionists!! This is only ever done by Americans.

This type of “I just f&*ked a hottie and feel so good I throw my cash away” thinking gives the country a bad reputation.

Eros74
01-29-09, 19:59
....obviously after the cocaine girl I wanted something good, I spoke with about 4 girls, besides the price from 400 till 300, the problem was that there was no chemistry, just a couple of minutes of conversation and then they asked me, let's go or not ? I hate such a cold beginning, in my experience seldom you get a GFE when it starts like this.

When I was almost thinking to go home alone and thinking too that to open a terma from midnight till 7:00 am could be a good idea....I noticed a slim blonde cute girl...she stand alone, no smile, no dance...I thought, let's try....when I asked her if she speak english, she said, of course....

We take 2 drinks and we immediately went to sit down out and we had more than one hour of conversation, slowly touching and later kissing, I had the feeling I was went back when I was teenager, the feeling to be with a regular.

She told me that she works in Germany and that she is here for holiday.

I thought...after the cocaine girl I wanted to try do it in different way...I did no ask for the price, I did not ask for the service, I did no ask for how long time and why ???

Cause there was a wonderful chemistry hardly you build in so little time with an unknown person till a while ago.

Maybe I was crazy, usually I ask in advance even too much things, cause I hate to pay without know what I am gonna to buy, but this time, I thought to ask was the fastest way to break down the chemistry, so I decided to trust the way we feel good and confortable each other.

How it ends ?

Now it is 16:37 and she left my flat a while ago....ok there was no anal, but was so good sex, so nice conversation and when she went to take the shower I was in toilet too to wash my teeth and when I was in shower I asked her to stay in toilet so we could keep on have conversation, I am sure she did no take drugs.

She slept in my arms in so sweet way I still hardly believe I took her from help. We had sex 3 times, but she almost allow me to do all what I wanted, the second time, she was deep sleeping and I woke up her with DATY and we went forward...

The bad thing ? Maybe you think the price, but, the bad thing here is that out of help we went to the similar mac donald you find on the right, immediately 3 children close to us....she said no problem but I with my hands I made them to stay apart from my body...when one fast as a rabbit literally jump against her, pick up her chain at her throat and while he was landing he pull down with his light weight of the child he was, but more than enough to broke the chain. A while later he was running away....I was shocked, so fast he did.

It should be a very bad sign for me, cause what the price I was gonna to pay that she lost her chain too ? But with class, she neither a bit sad or impressed, said, in half hour of work in Germany I will buy another one gold chain, this is why I love europe...

Ok to make long short....when she said goodbye at 16:00, remember more than 12 hours together...., I asked her, tell me.....she said, I work more than enough in German, I went with you cause I like you and if I did not feel good with you, surely I did not sleep all the morning....but still she did not want to say the price....again I asked her, how much ? She said, is it ok 200 ?

I said yes, it is ok and so far as I gave her only 2 banknote of 100 reais each, she kindly asked 10 reais for taxi, that surely could have not to change the 100 reais.

So....I have her e mail, we should meet in germany or I told her I invited her to my hometown, cause... she is drug free, she drunk 2 beers and 1 water with me at help, when usually girls try to drink as fish, she is very sweety, good english....she seems to me a sort of diamond in help considering the sharks I spoke with in the last 2 weeks....

So yes...even with 200 reais you can have wonderful time here, even if it takes a lot of time to find the right girl, to me it happens yesterday and it is from 13 january that I go to help every night....

So 2 girls from help, 1 cocaine girl, second one the sweety one....I am curious to see the third one I will take out...

Pyjama
01-29-09, 20:34
... and it is from 13 january that I go to help every night....

So 2 girls from help, 1 cocaine girl, second one the sweety one....I am curious to see the third one I will take out...

Within 2 weeks you only picked 2 girls from help? So help doesn't seem to be the best place for you in terms of girls. If you are in Rio strictly for mongering there might be better options for you.

PJ

Jamaicanceo
01-29-09, 20:58
When to Termas Cancun last night, there was not much choice of girls and only a few guys. I took a big-titted 19 year old for an hour. Her name was Mez, she did anal etc and was ok.

When I paid my bill they receptionist left me R$5 short, when I pointed this out to them they said “tip for us” I said “why what service did you give me?” and “You must think I’m American?” They laughed and gave me my money back.

What stupid assholes are tipping receptionist/doormen in Rio? Waiters and girls maybe, but receptionists!! This is only ever done by Americans.

This type of “I just f&*ked a hottie and feel so good I throw my cash away” thinking gives the country a bad reputation.When I was at Cancun the attendants near the showers ad a box wrapped in Christmas paper, I was in Rio Dec. 3 - 15, and they kept bugging me about putting moeny in their box. Now all I had on is a bathrobe. So I go to my locker got R$5.00, showed it to them and put it in the box. Why? Because they could make your stay there bad with the girls.

I didn't want to tip them, but what choice do you have when they could put poison in yor game while you are there. Small change can go a long way. That's why you tip the right people. Most employees at termas are close, and I think Americans and Europeans, alike, get pegged as rich arrogant assholes by the locals.

Jamaicanceo
01-29-09, 21:08
Lukasek,

You need to find a good WINGMAN before you get into trouble. You have too many bad incidents, and you seem to look for chemistry. Stay out of Rio during holidays, or the garotas will have you playing Santa Claus with your mongering budget.

Jake993
01-29-09, 21:33
Within 2 weeks you only picked 2 girls from help? So help doesn't seem to be the best place for you in terms of girls. If you are in Rio strictly for mongering there might be better options for you.

PJPJ - Lukasek is hunting diamonds while the rest of us are happy with pebbles ;)
I agree with you - perhaps Rio is NOT the best place for him.

Pyjama
01-29-09, 21:59
i do hope lukasek will find some more diamonds, but obviously he should look for them in different places, other than helpee.

Prosal
01-29-09, 23:31
perhaps Rio is NOT the best place for him.
I've told it several time to Luka.

Why he has the balls to venture and linger in provincial Russia (which requires HUGE balls indeed!) and on the other hand during his trip to Brasil stays in Copacabana (which is only a mass prostitution mecca filled with unadventurous *****mongers and hardened and ugly favela hoes) is beyond me.

Eros74
01-30-09, 00:09
Pijama,
2 girls from help and 7 from termas plus one from sweetpussy,6 from termas were great,but ok Rio is not my place....this is why I will leave very soon....finally :)

Jamaicanceo,
sorry....too many bad incidents are what ? A girl from help that takes cocaine it seems, reading the thread here, something very normal, so no bad incident, but just the routine.
Yesterday she got robbed and not me, second it seems to me pretty naive that a brazilian girl dress gold chain and me, turist here, neither a cheap plastic clock....to be robbed if you dress a gold chain here, it is not a incident, but what you deserve....people sleep in the streets, almost no money to eat and then we should be surprised if we got robbed when we show them "food for one month" (a gold chain I suppose is really food for one month for them...)....and btw I told her, out of help immediately inside a taxi, she said, I am hungry, lets go there....another paradox a turist that suggest a brazilian girl what to do....

Jake993,
you know me so well and I promise you, next time I will follow your suggests from the beginning...

Prosal,
you know me too, yes, maybe you do not believe me, but speaking Russian was almost easier to go to Sibiria than to move here where nobody understand english. Again after so long travelling in Russia, I noticed I got a bit lazy, to pack again clothes and change city, my idea was 2 months in Rio with maybe see one different city. My fault that I did not understand that Rio is one of the most overrated place, good for just a fast fuck with girl with busted face or with a belly bigger than her breast if not fake breast,you got real so low quality here, I cannot understand how so many person LOVE Rio and even less I understand what I see every day....
I would like to take one after one some man I see with skank girl here, to Piter to have one hour with a girl from photomodeli... I am sure they will have immediately heart attack....
Believe me Prosal....it is only cause I was lazy, and cause I had no time to plan well this travel..., I thougth as this travel as to take rest and stay in Rio, now I will use again my big balls that gave me the chance to go alone to Sibiria and I will make even this travel, as the last one, really worth it....it is a promise !!!
p.s. sometimes better I will decide to go back to work too ;) however I am sure, worst than here it cannot be LOL

Prosal
01-30-09, 00:13
Rio is one of the most overrated place, good for just a fast fuck with girl with busted face or with a belly bigger than her breast if not fake breast,you got real so low quality here, I cannot understand how so many person LOVE Rio and even less I understand what I see every day....now I will use again the my big balls ....it is a promise !!!
I thoroughly share your thoughts about Copacabana. Nonetheless remember that Copa is a very small and very unrepresentative part of Brasil.

Jazzy Daddy
01-30-09, 02:07
Pijama,
2 girls from help and 7 from termas plus one from sweetpussy,6 from termas were great,but ok Rio is not my place....this is why I will leave very soon....finally :)

Jamaicanceo,
sorry....too many bad incidents are what ? A girl from help that takes cocaine it seems, reading the thread here, something very normal, so no bad incident, but just the routine.
Yesterday she got robbed and not me, second it seems to me pretty naive that a brazilian girl dress gold chain and me, turist here, neither a cheap plastic clock....to be robbed if you dress a gold chain here, it is not a incident, but what you deserve....people sleep in the streets, almost no money to eat and then we should be surprised if we got robbed when we show them "food for one month" (a gold chain I suppose is really food for one month for them...)....and btw I told her, out of help immediately inside a taxi, she said, I am hungry, lets go there....another paradox a turist that suggest a brazilian girl what to do....

Jake993,
you know me so well and I promise you, next time I will follow your suggests from the beginning...

Prosal,
you know me too, yes, maybe you do not believe me, but speaking Russian was almost easier to go to Sibiria than to move here where nobody understand english. Again after so long travelling in Russia, I noticed I got a bit lazy, to pack again clothes and change city, my idea was 2 months in Rio with maybe see one different city. My fault that I did not understand that Rio is one of the most overrated place, good for just a fast fuck with girl with busted face or with a belly bigger than her breast if not fake breast,you got real so low quality here, I cannot understand how so many person LOVE Rio and even less I understand what I see every day....
I would like to take one after one some man I see with skank girl here, to Piter to have one hour with a girl from photomodeli... I am sure they will have immediately heart attack....
Believe me Prosal....it is only cause I was lazy, and cause I had no time to plan well this travel..., I thougth as this travel as to take rest and stay in Rio, now I will use again my big balls that gave me the chance to go alone to Sibiria and I will make even this travel, as the last one, really worth it....it is a promise !!!
p.s. sometimes better I will decide to go back to work too ;) however I am sure, worst than here it cannot be LOL

This is why it is essential to learn something about the culture AND language of the country you plan on visiting .

Dutch44
01-30-09, 02:14
Originally Posted by Lukasek
Rio is one of the most overrated place, good for just a fast fuck with girl with busted face or with a belly bigger than her breast if not fake breast,you got real so low quality here, I cannot understand how so many person LOVE Rio and even less I understand what I see every day....now I will use again the my big balls ....it is a promise !!!
;)

Hi Lukasek,

I just read your post. I don't quite agree with your conclusion. It really depends on who you choose and where you go in Rio. There are plenty places besides Help where you can find very very nice garotas. Even at Help you can succeed. Anyway, my experience is different from yours. (been here many times) However you are right that very few speak english. I speak some portuguese and that makes a BIG difference. If you can talk and joke with them a little, it will not be a 'fast fuck' as you call it, but more of a girlfriend experience (GFE). Today I visited 4x4 in Centro. I spent 1 hour with a tall blonde 23 year old supermodel of the kind that you normally only see on expensive glossy magazines. And she had no inhibitions!

She spoke some english. Because I went to the room before 17h00 the entrance fee was free. Total cost including suite, girl and 1 drink: 205 R$.....that's less than 70 euro! Man, I know no place on earth where you can find that so easily. Its fairly easy to get there from Copa. Just take the metro to Uruguiana station (a 25 minute ride), and go to Rua Buenos Aires, 44, some 10 minutes away if you walk. Directions you will find on the forum. But perhaps you've already been there.

So I hope you have time to visit other places in Rio, like 4x4. Otherwise your experience will be limited just to Copa. Copa can be good and copa can be pretty bad as well. But maybe Rio is just not your thing. It's possible.

enjoy,
Dutch44

PS: Just out of curiosity, what is your favorite place, if I may ask?

Jamaicanceo
01-30-09, 03:05
jamaicanceo,

sorry. too many bad incidents are what? a girl from help that takes cocaine it seems, reading the thread here, something very normal, so no bad incident, but just the routine.

yesterday she got robbed and not me, second it seems to me pretty naive that a brazilian girl dress gold chain and me, turist here, neither a cheap plastic clock. to be robbed if you dress a gold chain here, it is not a incident, but what you deserve. people sleep in the streets, almost no money to eat and then we should be surprised if we got robbed when we show them "food for one month" (a gold chain i suppose is really food for one month for them.). and btw i told her, out of help immediately inside a taxi, she said, i am hungry, lets go there. another paradox a turist that suggest a brazilian girl what to do.first, you are traveling to monger territory looking for a girl friend experience.

second, you seem to always talk about help. when i go to rio help is my last option, it's not the best of rio.

help is the fast lane slow poke. get out of the fast lane.

when i do go to help, i've never pulled out a girl who even smokes a cigarette. then i do not let the princesses run the gdp. it seems like you have the gdp backwards. you have the dick, therore, you call the shots. "you don't like me," fuck that!

third, i go to copacabana for easy pussy, and the rest of brazil for brazil, and some pussy too, but not in ground zero. copacabana is not the place for gfe. sometimes you get lucky. on my first-trip i had a nice 18year-old, 5'-8" curvicious gold haired, gold skinned garota, and we communicated with a dictionary and internet cafe online translation. she didn't smoke or drink, and never asked for money. although i did give her some reals because she would travel from botofogo by bus to visit me. but she had a kid like most of the gdp, she was an unemployed manicurist, and she spoke no english. she was great for the first trip, but chemistry or not, are you in rio to fall in love.

maybe if you travel out of copacabana and look for an educated girl who works for some institution and goes to roman catholic church every day of the we, but doesn't mind sucking your dick, taking it in the ass, cim, etc. but not at helpee.

Bravo
01-31-09, 14:51
I went to shenanigans a couple of weeks ago to watch the payoffs, its was my first time there. The crowd was good and the food was excellant. However, they had a girl singing with a loud ass guitar during the fucking game!! Even though she was very good, it was annoying as hell! There were even some Americans booing and asking her to shut up, so they could concentrate on the game.

I am headed there again tomorrow for the Super Bowl, hopefully, they wont have any live entertainment during the game.

Bizzie
01-31-09, 19:43
.. an educated girl who works for some institution and goes to roman catholic church every day of the we, but doesn't mind sucking your dick, taking it in the ass, cim, etc. but not at helpee.

you can find that at helpee, if you are lucky. i did get that lucky a couple of times.:)
out of 12 times at helpeee, 2 bad, 2 so so, and 8 good experiences.
not a bad ratio.
we all have our own gfe and pornstar fantasies.
some mongers need to feel as if they were 'loved' by the gdp.
some of us have been around all that and more, and pay the girls leave at the end, not stay.

Bizzie
01-31-09, 19:49
maybe if you travel out of copacabana and look for an educated girl who works for some institution and goes to roman catholic church every day of the we, but doesn't mind sucking your dick, taking it in the ass, cim, etc. but not at helpee.

you can find that in copa, if you are lucky. i did get that lucky a couple of times.:)
out of 12 times at helpee, 2 bad, 2 so so, and 8 good experiences.
not a bad ratio.
we all have our own gfe and pornstar fantasies.
some mongers need to feel as if they were 'loved' by the cocksucking, ass-licking, cim gdps.
some of us have been around all that and more, and pay the girls to leave at the end, not stay.
whatever floats your boat:)

Dutch44
01-31-09, 22:41
rio, beginners guide and tips for help - copacabana - january 2009

well.....whatever people think about help, it's there and it does have some advantages too. it's a great disco and the atmosphere can be magic at times.

anyway, because this forum is about 'working girls', i thought i create a short list of information and tips for 'beginners' visiting rio for the first time and going to help. it's based on my own experiences and my point of view and some of you may disagree with it or have additional tips. be my guest. most of what i wrote can be found in bits an pieces on this forum or is just plain obvious for the 'experienced' mongers. but still i hope it may be useful to some.


1) help is easy to find at the avenida atlântica in copacabana and there are plenty hotels or apartments close to it. any taxi driver will know it. it opens at 23h00 and closes around 04h00 or 05h00. entrance fee before midnight at this moment (january 2009) is 28 r$ and after midnight 38 r$. most people line up and get in just before midnight.
if you get a hotel, make sure you check beforehand that it is girl-friendly. so you can bring someone, without cost, to your room. most hotels will however require the wg to bring her passport and leave it at the reception. when you rent an apartment, make sure it will have a 24 hour doorman (most of them have this) for security. better safe than sorry.

2)in front of help is a verandah where the working girls (wg's or garotas) start gathering from 22h00 onwards. it's fun to watch the scence and have a drink there. there will be a good many wg's that stay at the verandah and dont even go inisde for dancing. once reason being that some of them don't want to invest the entry fee.

3) taking a girl from the help verandah: typically the girls here will accept lower rates than inside. once it gets late (after 02h00) prices will do down. you may be able to find a wg here that agrees to as little as 100r$ for 1 hour. (you pay the taxi on top of that. may be like 20 r$ to copa/ipanema both ways). more common wg rate is r$ 150-200 for 2 hours. be sure to check the wg well, there are some nasty favela girls there that you may not want inside your apartment/hotel causing trouble.

4) taking a wg from inside help (the disco). prices are a little higher, simply because of the entrance fee and the 'investment' the wg's make in their dresses, clothes, jewelry. you will find favela wg's there, but also 'princesses' that wear expensive clothes and want higher fees. typical requested fee may be r$ 300 for 2 hours. but when it's late, this may come down to 200 r$, but usually not much lower. some of the princesses will start with 500 r$ or more. that's way too much. that would be more than a minimum monthly wage in brazil!. unless you don't care about money or ruining the pricing the rest of us, you should not accept it and negotiate it down towards 300 r$ or less, even if the wg princess looks like a supermodel!

5)scanning a wg: this is a very important part and should not be underestimated, including the agreements you make with her.

6) approaching: there will be wg's that approach you, others that only look at you, and some that 'apparently' ignore you. those may be local girls (none wg's) or princesses that demand very high prices because they think they are special. i prefer the ones that look, but dont try to grab me.(and think i'm an easy target) i observe that particularly 40+ year old gringo's give in to these more aggressive ones to easily. it can be hard resist that young fresh, dancing sexy lady that grabs your hand and takes over. i did it once and regretted it.

7) now step by step the approaching process:

tip1: never rush, take your time and speak with the girl, check the chemistry. of course speaking some (minimal) portuguese will be required. most wg's in rio do not speak english or very very little english. if the girl does not speak english and you do not speak portuguese, it will not make things better. perhaps you don't care and just want 60 minutes of 'fast fun'. but it will mean you miss out on most of, it not all, of the gfe. (girlfriend experience)

tip2: do not go with the wg to her own place. always bring her to a safe place that you know and can trust. (like your hotelroom or apartment) at night: always take a taxi. (dont go walking anywhere at night, and that includes the beach) do not take the taxis parked in front of help (they cost 2-3 times more). take only the onces that happen to pass by on the ave. atlantica and have a meter. (tem metro?, do you have a meter?). if no meter, don't get that taxi. fee to most places in copa or ipanema (starting from help) should be around 8-15 r$, depending on distance.

tip2: if the wg wants to rush it, slow her down and say that you are not in a hurry and want to talk or dance a bit. never let her take too much initiative. you are the customer and the customer is king. she should respect that. just as you should respect that she is a person, has feelings too and wants to be treated well.

tip3: make clear agreements about everything. a,the price. b: how long she will stay (best: at what time she will leave your apartment/hotel) the time starts when you enter the room. you could even write all of it on a piece of paper if the communication feels fuzzy. i've seen too many screwups with people that thought that tln (all nights) means many hours, whereas the girl thinks she can leave in 1 hour, because it is already 04h00 in the morning.

tip4: ask here what she does and does not do? faz tudo? (do you do everything?), or you may find out in your hotel that she refuses to do things you like. like 'i dont like to kiss, do bj etc)

tip5: make sure she knows what you like and want to do.

tip6: hygiene: always wear your rubbers. if you like oral, rinse your mouth afterwards with antiseptic mouthwash (like listerine). when she gives you a bbbj, wash your little john with soap and [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) afterwards. (i'm not a medical doctor, but these tips are just to help protect you. if you want 100% safe sex in rio, stay at home!)

tip6: make sure she knows that you pay here at the end when she leaves and all is done. if not, you may find yourself in a situation where she rushes things and leaves right after you're 'done' (in say 30 minutes), even if you agreed to 2 hours. (because she's already got her money, right?)

tip7: hide expensive stuff, computers, digital cameras and your money, when you bring a help wg in your room. things may 'disappear' if you're not careful. put money in a locker or heavy suitcase.

tip8: when you negotiate, stay friendly with her, but dont be afraid to be very clear. when there is anything you don't like, say it right away. bring it in a diplomatic way, as in: "sorry, we dont fit well together, i hope you will find somebody else". nobody likes to be rejected, including wg's. if you say it this way, she may understand and give in to your wishes and be a fun night afterall. in some cased if the girls likes you, you could spend several nights at reduced rate. don't overpay.

tip9: brazilian women do not like 'weak' men. if you just came in from europe or the usa, as the typical gringo, cave in to her aggressive approach, pay her 500 r$ for 1 single hour and don't speak a single word of portuguese, she will (rightly so) think you are just a stupid gringo. and that's how she will treat you. expect fake moaning (after 10 minutes, pretending she has an orgasm when you just touch her) and expect her trying to 'finish' you with lightning speed. so she can rush back to help and make more money. don't overpay.

tip10: however if you do the scanning well, if you are clear about what you want and pay, negiotiate, speak some portuguese, make some jokes, and treat her with respect, you may find a real gem now and then. even at help. outside help the chances are better though. you may find yourself a steaming hot, lively, funny girlfriend, if only for 1 night or a few hours. you may find yourself wondering how it is possible that such women exist. even if most, if not all of it, is a game, there can be real pleasure and fun in this game. that means for you, and for her.

any questions? don't ask me.....check and read this forum!

enjoy rio and stay safe...
dutch44

Rio Bob
01-31-09, 23:28
Rio, beginners guide and tips for HELP - Copacabana - January 2009

Dutch44


Good post and very informative.

I got into Help last night at about 2 am. There was still plenty of good selections left, when I got there they were all over me like flies on shit, some real nice ones too. I only went in to take in the scene and listen to the music as I already had a full day. I had an escort from CIA-Plus in the afternoon 130 reais plus taxi for 2 hours then I went to a womans house I met on-line and did her for 3 hours so I had my fill.

But I met a nice blond from Santa Catarina in Help that just arrived that day, she came up to earn some money because her beauty salon has economic problems due to the rains they had in Santa Catarina. Price was right and she gave me a topper this afternoon when she left. She was the best of the day.

Now Im going to meet another girl I met on-line and if I can't get her into bed by midnight it will be off to Help again, Saturday night should be a good night.

Prosal
01-31-09, 23:40
Tip4: ask Faz tudo? (do you do everything?)
With all the respect due to your Help knowledge, cultural awareness and language skills, "faz tudo ?" is not only gibberish (no subject pronoun) but also not appropriate.

"Voce e completa ?" is the right way to ask a girl if she's willing to do anything (incl. but not only anal).

Watchman4400
01-31-09, 23:55
i agree with almost everyhthing that dutch wrote and if you are a newbie and follow his instructions you will do fine in help. there are terma guys, there are help guys and some guys like to go to places that only the locals go. i like the termas but i don't go there much because i don't like the fact that i have to pay the same prices for every girl. at help, i can get a top quality girl, all night for less money than an hour in a terma.

i would just add a few things. i beleive the quality of the girls outside of help is usually much lower than the quality inside. if you come to rio to meet girls and have a good time i say, go in help, have a drink and watch. if you just relax and watch you will see how the game is played and you will be able to see which girls to stay away from and which girls are the gems.

talk to guys there that appear to know what they are doing. don't be shy, i have been going to rio for a long time and i love to help guys out. most guys that go to rio are pretty cool and if you strike up a conversation with them, let them know you are new they will help you out.

dutch said it but i want to make clear. relax! you are in control, remember to stay in control of the conversation. i think that most guys get into to trouble because they allow the women to take control because they are aggressive. the most aggressive girls are usually the girls that will give you problems later.

i tell first timers who ask me, you pick the girls, don't let them pick you! good job dutch.



rio, beginners guide and tips for help - copacabana - january 2009

well.....whatever people think about help, it's there and it does have some advantages too. it's a great disco and the atmosphere can be magic at times.

anyway, because this forum is about 'working girls', i thought i create a short list of information and tips for 'beginners' visiting rio for the first time and going to help. it's based on my own experiences and my point of view and some of you may disagree with it or have additional tips. be my guest. most of what i wrote can be found in bits an pieces on this forum or is just plain obvious for the 'experienced' mongers. but still i hope it may be useful to some.


1) help is easy to find at the avenida atlântica in copacabana and there are plenty hotels or apartments close to it. any taxi driver will know it. it opens at 23h00 and closes around 04h00 or 05h00. entrance fee before midnight at this moment (january 2009) is 28 r$ and after midnight 38 r$. most people line up and get in just before midnight.
if you get a hotel, make sure you check beforehand that it is girl-friendly. so you can bring someone, without cost, to your room. most hotels will however require the wg to bring her passport and leave it at the reception. when you rent an apartment, make sure it will have a 24 hour doorman (most of them have this) for security. better safe than sorry.

2)in front of help is a verandah where the working girls (wg's or garotas) start gathering from 22h00 onwards. it's fun to watch the scence and have a drink there. there will be a good many wg's that stay at the verandah and dont even go inisde for dancing. once reason being that some of them don't want to invest the entry fee.

3) taking a girl from the help verandah: typically the girls here will accept lower rates than inside. once it gets late (after 02h00) prices will do down. you may be able to find a wg here that agrees to as little as 100r$ for 1 hour. (you pay the taxi on top of that. may be like 20 r$ to copa/ipanema both ways). more common wg rate is r$ 150-200 for 2 hours. be sure to check the wg well, there are some nasty favela girls there that you may not want inside your apartment/hotel causing trouble.

4) taking a wg from inside help (the disco). prices are a little higher, simply because of the entrance fee and the 'investment' the wg's make in their dresses, clothes, jewelry. you will find favela wg's there, but also 'princesses' that wear expensive clothes and want higher fees. typical requested fee may be r$ 300 for 2 hours. but when it's late, this may come down to 200 r$, but usually not much lower. some of the princesses will start with 500 r$ or more. that's way too much. that would be more than a minimum monthly wage in brazil!. unless you don't care about money or ruining the pricing the rest of us, you should not accept it and negotiate it down towards 300 r$ or less, even if the wg princess looks like a supermodel!

5)scanning a wg: this is a very important part and should not be underestimated, including the agreements you make with her.

6) approaching: there will be wg's that approach you, others that only look at you, and some that 'apparently' ignore you. those may be local girls (none wg's) or princesses that demand very high prices because they think they are special. i prefer the ones that look, but dont try to grab me.(and think i'm an easy target) i observe that particularly 40+ year old gringo's give in to these more aggressive ones to easily. it can be hard resist that young fresh, dancing sexy lady that grabs your hand and takes over. i did it once and regretted it.

7) now step by step the approaching process:

tip1: never rush, take your time and speak with the girl, check the chemistry. of course speaking some (minimal) portuguese will be required. most wg's in rio do not speak english or very very little english. if the girl does not speak english and you do not speak portuguese, it will not make things better. perhaps you don't care and just want 60 minutes of 'fast fun'. but it will mean you miss out on most of, it not all, of the gfe. (girlfriend experience)

tip2: do not go with the wg to her own place. always bring her to a safe place that you know and can trust. (like your hotelroom or apartment) at night: always take a taxi. (dont go walking anywhere at night, and that includes the beach) do not take the taxis parked in front of help (they cost 2-3 times more). take only the onces that happen to pass by on the ave. atlantica and have a meter. (tem metro?, do you have a meter?). if no meter, don't get that taxi. fee to most places in copa or ipanema (starting from help) should be around 8-15 r$, depending on distance.

tip2: if the wg wants to rush it, slow her down and say that you are not in a hurry and want to talk or dance a bit. never let her take too much initiative. you are the customer and the customer is king. she should respect that. just as you should respect that she is a person, has feelings too and wants to be treated well.

tip3: make clear agreements about everything. a,the price. b: how long she will stay (best: at what time she will leave your apartment/hotel) the time starts when you enter the room. you could even write all of it on a piece of paper if the communication feels fuzzy. i've seen too many screwups with people that thought that tln (all nights) means many hours, whereas the girl thinks she can leave in 1 hour, because it is already 04h00 in the morning.

tip4: ask here what she does and does not do? faz tudo? (do you do everything?), or you may find out in your hotel that she refuses to do things you like. like 'i dont like to kiss, do bj etc)

tip5: make sure she knows what you like and want to do.

tip6: hygiene: always wear your rubbers. if you like oral, rinse your mouth afterwards with antiseptic mouthwash (like listerine). when she gives you a bbbj, wash your little john with soap and [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) afterwards. (i'm not a medical doctor, but these tips are just to help protect you. if you want 100% safe sex in rio, stay at home!)

tip6: make sure she knows that you pay here at the end when she leaves and all is done. if not, you may find yourself in a situation where she rushes things and leaves right after you're 'done' (in say 30 minutes), even if you agreed to 2 hours. (because she's already got her money, right?)

tip7: hide expensive stuff, computers, digital cameras and your money, when you bring a help wg in your room. things may 'disappear' if you're not careful. put money in a locker or heavy suitcase.

tip8: when you negotiate, stay friendly with her, but dont be afraid to be very clear. when there is anything you don't like, say it right away. bring it in a diplomatic way, as in: "sorry, we dont fit well together, i hope you will find somebody else". nobody likes to be rejected, including wg's. if you say it this way, she may understand and give in to your wishes and be a fun night afterall. in some cased if the girls likes you, you could spend several nights at reduced rate. don't overpay.

tip9: brazilian women do not like 'weak' men. if you just came in from europe or the usa, as the typical gringo, cave in to her aggressive approach, pay her 500 r$ for 1 single hour and don't speak a single word of portuguese, she will (rightly so) think you are just a stupid gringo. and that's how she will treat you. expect fake moaning (after 10 minutes, pretending she has an orgasm when you just touch her) and expect her trying to 'finish' you with lightning speed. so she can rush back to help and make more money. don't overpay.

tip10: however if you do the scanning well, if you are clear about what you want and pay, negiotiate, speak some portuguese, make some jokes, and treat her with respect, you may find a real gem now and then. even at help. outside help the chances are better though. you may find yourself a steaming hot, lively, funny girlfriend, if only for 1 night or a few hours. you may find yourself wondering how it is possible that such women exist. even if most, if not all of it, is a game, there can be real pleasure and fun in this game. that means for you, and for her.

any questions? don't ask me.....check and read this forum!

enjoy rio and stay safe...
dutch44

Jamaicanceo
02-01-09, 02:28
Rio, beginners guide and tips for HELP - Copacabana - January 2009

Well.....whatever people think about HELP, it's there and it does have some advantages too. It's a great disco and the atmosphere can be magic at times.

Anyway, because this forum is about 'working girls', I thought I create a short list of information and tips for 'beginners' visiting Rio for the first time and going to HELP. It's based on my own experiences and my point of view and some of you may disagree with it or have additional tips. Be my guest. Most of what I wrote can be found in bits an pieces on this forum or is just plain obvious for the 'experienced' mongers. But still I hope it may be useful to some.

Dutch44Well said. I recommend newbies to print this out to read on you first flight into Brazil to not make avoidable mistakes; or on the flight back just in case you got this report after you made your Help mistakes. If you made mistakes covered in this report, don't jump out the plane, just be better prepared next time.

Jamaicanceo
02-01-09, 02:56
I agree with almost everyhthing that Dutch wrote and if you are a newbie and follow his instructions you will do fine in Help.. I tell first timers who ask me, you pick the girls, don't let them pick you! Good job Dutch.I agree with you too. Termas girls may be wiling to come to your apartment. If you are into oral sex, termas girls have frequent medical benefits. Plus, to work at 4 x 4, Monte Carlo, Luomo, Solarium, and Cancun termas, a garota has to be nonfavela, meaning no excessive tattoos, stretch marks, or attitude. With a Help girl she may look good, but she may have a lot of birth stretch marks. Inside or out of Help you really are not guaranteed that gem looks gleaming out of her expensive dress or tight jeans. Only after you get to your apartment will you discover that.

I met a girl in Help on my first trip that looked good. We fucked all night. The next morning I saw an ugly scar on her neck as if someone tried to slash her throat. Outside of this chick, I've had no problems.

Omegaman is right about asking someone. When I was at Help last December, two white Australians had the chunky white twins, Julia and Julianna, at their table. As a Black American who didn't know these guys, mongeing has no color, one of them leaned over and told me that these bitches think their pussies are made of platinum for R$500 each all night. I then told him that I had one of them March 2008 for R$200 and she tried to cutout after my orgasm claiming she needs to find her sister. They pull that sister routine often on mongers. So we whispered information, and the next think the twins knew they were sitting by themselves. The Aussies left them for other girls. Then one of them asked to be fucked telling me R$200, and I said no R$150 because you don't do anal or BBBJ. Then the infamous line, "You don't like me. " I told her I would like her better at R$100 for everything. " Yes, talking to other mongers is great advice.

Abzsafado
02-01-09, 04:48
then I went to a womans house I met on-line and did her for 3 hours so I had my fill.
Now Im going to meet another girl I met on-line and if I can't get her into bed by midnight it will be off to Help again, Saturday night should be a good night.
Your report misses out some vital info.Where did you meet these women on line, Brazil Cupid, Orkut?
Did they want money or were they after a relationship?

Rio Bob
02-01-09, 14:51
Your report misses out some vital info.Where did you meet these women on line, Brazil Cupid, Orkut?

Did they want money or were they after a relationship?I have been using match.com for over 4 years now, thru the years I have had some success with this site. Actually the woman I did the other night I met for the first time 4 years ago but only had sex with her the first time the other night. This woman sells real estate in Barra and has a very big apt overlooking the beach. I gave her no money. Not only that she is a very conservative quiet woman who got off on the fact that I am a safado and screw all these women in Copa, she said it turnrd her on and she had sex with me for that and because I'm gostoso. She didn't expect to when I told her I was coming over .

I will also see this week another woman I met 4 years ago who I go to swing clubs with. She told me 4 years ago she is only looking for a husband not a fling but we chatted thru the years and became friends, she asked me to rewrite her profile in English and she started telling me about the guys she meets. Then I send her a new picture of me and she says even if we are friends if you really look like that I will have sex with you without being serious, she also turned on her cam and masterbated to my picture so I can see. Now I just take her to swing clubs. This woman is an art history professor, I give her no money.

Actually last night I met 2 women from Match, 1 at 9 pm in Copa, she is an Architect looking for a serious relationship. I told her that I'm a safado and she didn't blink an eye, asked me if she can get together with me today, I left her at 11 PM and went to meet another woman in Leblon, she is a financial analyst for Banco do Brasil, she asked me to go to dinner tonight. She is the better of the 2 so I may go with her today. I also had lunch with a woman yesterday in Ipanema, shes a lawyer, but she is a no go, waste of time but the table next to me had a real nice looking woman but I missed it,

I have a list of women now that I met online in the past couple of weeks on Match but I can't go meet them all, plus not all of them with have sex on the first date so you have to invest some time.

I ended up in Help last night, many girls asking for 500 or 400 and wouldn't take even 300 at 2:30 am, they told me to wait that at 4:30 they would if they had no customer. One girl I spoke to looked like Bridgett Bardot/Pamela Anderson, she was nice but i wouldn't pay the 400. I did end up with a real nice girl, I told her I only pay 200, she said don't say that too loud, keep it a secret, give me 200 plus taxi, she just left and it was well worth every real of it. This girl lives in Cabo Frio with her parents and only comes to Rio on the weekends to work, she also works in Cabo Frio in her parents business.

Felipe2006
02-01-09, 16:11
Hello,

A quick question. Where is a good place to watch the Super Bowl in Copacabana or Ipanema tonight? I'd like to see it (together with my chica) and not just silent TV screen but sound too.

Thanks! Felipe

Rio Bob
02-02-09, 15:02
I went out with the financial analyst from Banco do Brasil last night, had drinks in the Fasano with her, I wanted to check that place out for future place to hang for non pros, maybe later in the week when I'm alone.

This girl is very nice, I think I'm going to concentrate all my efforts on her, taking her to dinner tonight, I'm going to pursue this one hard, she is pretty, smart, classy, should be fun

After she went home because she has to work at about 11 PM I went to Help, entered about 12:30, place was empty so I did some scouting, had some conversations with a couple of stunners just for education purposes. I asked them what the going rate is? They said 400 reais and the Americans and Europeans are paying it. What a shame.

The place started to fill up by 1:30 2, I spoke to a couple of nice girls and some not so nice, one started dancing with me, it was going good then asks me can you pay me 400 reais, I said no, she walked away, Good.

Then I see a nice little package, dark hair really cute from Fortaleza, we talk, she seems like a good one, I ask how old she is, she is 18, very sexy number, I ask her how much, she says 250, another sexy number. But i hesitate thinking she would be immature. I take another walk around, many good looking girls but I won't pay the 400. I go back to this baby and say lets go.

Back in the apto, she was a little nervous I can see, told me to keep the key in the door, which I usually hide. Then like a kid was jumping up and down on the bed, it was fun. She turned out to be so sweet, body so new and perfect and for an old man like me who has been pretty active past couple of days it was so tight and wet and hot I gave up the first one rather quickly and she talked me through it, it was perfect. I have some pics but will post at a later date. She doesn't usually go to Help but her business phone broke because she is on Hotside name Ingridi so she came to help for some business, my lucky night.

One other thing, I read a post here that a guy said he saw a gdp in Help he knew from 2007 and he was surprised she was still going to Help. Last night I ran into a GDP I knew from 1997, so embarrasing because she comes up to me when I was talking to a young hot chick and this old timer comes and talks to me as if I've been doing her, back in 1997 she was one of the hot ones on the A list of Help but unfortunately not now, but I saw her later working on an old man for business, good for her.

Jamaicanceo
02-02-09, 16:52
They said 400 reais and the Americans and Europeans are paying it. What a shame.That's Bullshit! They're talking to some stupid mongers. There are too many R$150-200 garotas.


Back in the apto, she was a little nervous I can see, told me to keep the key in the door, which I usually hide.You did what! Your left the key in the door!

Rio Bob
02-02-09, 20:58
That's Bullshit! They're talking to some stupid mongers. There are too many R$150-200 garotas.

You did what! Your left the key in the door!

When she wasn't looking I took the key and hid it for sure, don't worry. LOL

Sure their are garotas for 150 reais there are all different levels of girls there, plus it costs almost 40 reais to get in, so what do they get out of it?

Viper10
02-03-09, 01:26
Hey guys, could you please tell me which drugstore has the cheapest V? The other day I paid 175R for 4-100mg!!! Also, what is the gym that has the most amount of beautiful girls working out? Thanks.

Viper10

Bravo
02-03-09, 02:23
i work out at balance fitness and there are a bunch of hot girls there

Koolkid
02-03-09, 05:52
i work out at balance fitness and there are a bunch of hot girls thereWhat road is this on?

Thanks

JohnnyBraz
02-03-09, 09:31
The best looking garotas are at bodytech on ns copacabana. Equipe has alot off gdp's. Golds gym is crap. 175r is ok for copa, from memory it has always been around that or more. Slightly cheaper in Centro.

Jan 156
02-03-09, 20:10
~while we´re on gyms, I´ve just this afternoon booked the Princesa Isabel one again. 93R a month after some good-natured heavy haggling. The guy I dealt with was a worthy opponent. When I suggested what I had paid before he expanded his chest, leaned back, and gave a roar of a laugh that demonstrated how fit you become at his gymnastica. Where had I been / come from?? he asked útter disbelief. I pointed out I´d enrolled in his gym three years on the trot and yes, he has got some new kit, but there was no way he should be charging Leblon prices. We continued in this vein as he tried to interest me in the reduced rate happy granny hour (11am to 6pm or something equally unappealing). I told him flat I wanted to come early in the morning, omitting the fact that it was my back-up option if I did not score at Nogueira, but pointing out that my apartment was across the road and one of the reasons I chose it was the access to a good cheap gym. He relented and gave me a reasonable price - the admin girl providing a suitably shocked horror expression on cue. Carlos emphasised I was to get the deal agreed and I duly provided a fingerprint scan in exchange for a receipt.

David68
02-03-09, 20:48
The best looking garotas are at bodytech on ns copacabana. I had a membership at bodytech also. GREAT looking girls. Kind of hard starting up conversation though. Seems you have to shake the Gringo image in order to get a good one here.

Madd Love
02-03-09, 22:38
My last trip I could barely get photographs of GDP's. I manage to get a few, but has anyone experience GDP's telling them that they don't want their picture taken because they fear someone will be posted on the internet? Quite a few GDP's I came across was telling me that.

JohnnyBraz
02-04-09, 07:27
I had a membership at bodytech also. GREAT looking girls. Kind of hard starting up conversation though. Seems you have to shake the Gringo image in order to get a good one here.Yes, very difficult to get girls from bodytech, but the best looking women in zone zul train there. I don't waste my time trying to get normal girls in Rio. Just there to monger, but I like bodytech as a gym.

Exec Talent
02-04-09, 14:53
My last trip I could barely get photographs of GDP's. I manage to get a few, but has anyone experience GDP's telling them that they don't want their picture taken because they fear someone will be posted on the internet? Quite a few GDP's I came across was telling me that.

You know from another forum the problem. There are rats. They show the girls their pictures on sites like this one. I was in a termas not too long ago and a girl came up to me telling me she heard that her picture was on the internet. She wanted me to see if I could find it and tell her the site. Somehow I kept forgetting, but she was persistent.

The rats even give out your handles here so don't think what you write is a secret.

Jake993
02-04-09, 16:56
You know from another forum the problem. There are rats. They show the girls their pictures on sites like this one. I was in a termas not too long ago and a girl came up to me telling me she heard that her picture was on the internet. She wanted me to see if I could find it and tell her the site. Somehow I kept forgetting, but she was persistent.

The rats even give out your handles here so don't think what you write is a secret.There are some motherless pricks out there who think they are somehow improving their chances with the garotas by informing them that there are stories and photos of them out there on the Internet. While their intentions my be honorable they are misguided and fucking things up for the rest of us.

Last time I posted a Termas girl photo on the web that showed her face (and wrote report describing a stellar performance) someone out there (and you know who you are) blabbed his mouth off like a 15 year old school girl to the Termas girl in question. Not only did he tell her where to look, the prick PRINTED the report and photo and SHOWED them to her. Can you fucking believe it? The next time I arrived for a session I had some serious explaining to do. Not to mention destroying the chances of a three-way with her sister. Obviously, if she knew I was going to post her photo on the web she never would have agreed to them. Having said that, these girls have to expect that their photos are going to show up sooner of later but that's not the point. Being blindsided like that is no fun for anyone and should not be something we have to worry about.

OK - enough about my rant. You know who you are you cocksucker and so do I, don't do it again or I will rat YOU out to the entire ISG Forum. You sad fuck!

Sorry for hijacking your post ET - but that struck a nerve.

Garotalover
02-04-09, 17:54
I am with you Jake 993, We call them "white Knights" in Texas there a review site that reviews the performance of your encounter, there were johns that would copy your review and give it to a girl that you reviewed.So if you did a so so review of her, the girl had an attitude with you when you saw her. There were alot of "white Knights" here that thought that was a way to get on their good side, but the girls knew thay were just slime.

Eros74
02-04-09, 19:28
.... Not only did he tell her where to look, the prick PRINTED the report and photo and SHOWED them to her. Can you fucking believe it?....

Jake993,

I believe cause I know you, otherwise hard to believe it exists such sharks.

I feel sorry for what you happened and I think it was not easy for you to face her without know what happened.

And yes, if we should worry about things like this, in a while here no more new photos and later no more reports too.

Now I understand why even if you have and had surely top quality girls, I never saw a photo posted by you.

And yes, thanks for share with us your experience !

Louie Cifre
02-04-09, 22:52
How can I get viagra or cialis in Rio? Do I need prescription?

I'm going next Friday and I've been searching the web with no results. Try google viagra brasil and you get millions of online pharmacies. Hopeless

Bizzie
02-05-09, 03:41
you know from another forum the problem. there are rats. they show the girls their pictures on sites like this one. i was in a termas not too long ago and a girl came up to me telling me she heard that her picture was on the internet. she wanted me to see if i could find it and tell her the site. somehow i kept forgetting, but she was persistent.

the rats even give out your handles here so don't think what you write is a secret.

my last trip i could barely get photographs of gdp's. i manage to get a few, but has anyone experience gdp's telling them that they don't want their picture taken because they fear someone will be posted on the internet? quite a few gdp's i came across was telling me that.
i haven't been blind-sided by a gdp yet, but it could easily happen because of these cyber casanovas who feel that getting in the gdps good graces may yield a free blowjob.
many terma girls didn't let me take face pics, but they were happy to oblige me on action shots, which are anonymous.

my safeguards are that i don’t visit may be 2 (or 3) times per year. i don't post the pics right away, and usually don’t repeat with the same helpee shark twice.

in november, i repeated with a help girl which i had taken in july when was great. but she didn't remember me, meaning i must not have been that great:(
i showed her the pics i took of her in july. she was amused and said she didn't remember that blouse:) (the pics were on laptop, not the forum).

i think the guys who live in gig have more to worry about than occasional visitors. these gdps fuck way too many guys and drinking/partying most nights that probably can’t remember the client past a few weeks.

Oakwood99
02-05-09, 03:55
There are some motherless pricks out there who think they are somehow improving their chances with the garotas by informing them that there are stories and photos of them out there on the Internet. While their intentions my be honorable they are misguided and fucking things up for the rest of us.

Last time I posted a Termas girl photo on the web that showed her face (and wrote report describing a stellar performance) someone out there (and you know who you are) blabbed his mouth off like a 15 year old school girl to the Termas girl in question. Not only did he tell her where to look, the prick PRINTED the report and photo and SHOWED them to her. Can you fucking believe it? The next time I arrived for a session I had some serious explaining to do. Not to mention destroying the chances of a three-way with her sister. Obviously, if she knew I was going to post her photo on the web she never would have agreed to them. Having said that, these girls have to expect that their photos are going to show up sooner of later but that's not the point. Being blindsided like that is no fun for anyone and should not be something we have to worry about.

OK - enough about my rant. You know who you are you cocksucker and so do I, don't do it again or I will rat YOU out to the entire ISG Forum. You sad fuck!

Sorry for hijacking your post ET - but that struck a nerve.Jake,

Why wait until he fucks someone else? Getting Pussy whipped is an addiction that should be confronted head on.

Jamaicanceo
02-05-09, 08:02
How can I get viagra or cialis in Rio? Do I need prescription?

I'm going next Friday and I've been searching the web with no results. Try google viagra brasil and you get millions of online pharmacies. HopelessActually if you keep your eyes on the groung while walking on a sidewalk in Rio, you will more than likely find a cialis box with a few left-overs.

But seriously, no a prescription isn't needed for sex pills. There are drugstores on every corner.

July Gan
02-05-09, 15:33
I overheard a little argument at L Uomo yesterday about this gringo who had posted action shots of a girl (Ruby) allegedly despite assurances given that it would not be done. Another monger had told the girl in question the following day. A "warm" reception is awaiting our colleague if he returns there..

Jan 156
02-05-09, 15:55
places i don´t recommend (but i love;) )

actually, that´s an overstatement. i don´t love balcony. but i wanted to point out that just cos these other places happen to suit my tastes i do not suggest you go there, especially if you are new to brasil or if you like creature comforts. in fact, there are strong reasons not to go there and very specific reasons why i do, so read on if you are not sure. all statements are just my opinion based on recent experience.

nogueira – balcony – ba85 – vm

although staying in centro makes more sense if you like cheap end and/or want to do the official carnaval parade, nogueira is one of the reasons i chose to stay in copa just now (combined with the ridiculously generous rate my landlady´s giving me).

there are no equivalent late night haunts i know of. even if, by all standards of good taste, nogueira sucks. and if you take a dawn-break girl from nogueira back to your place in centro, the copa magic has evaporated by the time you get into the city.

´nog´ is on viv.min.d.castro between prado junior and princesa isabel. opposite barbarellas. decorated with girls that sit on car bonnets waiting for people to rob. it gets going around 5am when two guitarists play a medley of western and brasilian hits. guest singers join them (the female ones are generally available, but i have had my share of problems with one). it´s laid back, a mix of top talent (mostly from nearby boites as they close), unsuccessful hookers from help and balcony, down-and-outs, druggies, trannies, drunks and working girls who have finished working for the night and are just enjoying eating and drinking with their mates. it´s a good place for newbies to get eaten alive, hence the warning notice. also, to get a gem, you have to have patience and cunning. i like the challenge. some of the best gfe´s i´ve had have been from nog. but you wade through a lot of sh*t first.

i couldn´t wait on tuesday night /wednesday morning and looked in at 3am. dead. i pretend i haven´t, and go to balcony to get some air and wait for nog to open. i detest balcony. it´s on the seafront, a few blocks from isabel and is unashamedly loaded with beer-bellied ugly f*cks who don´t want to spend the entrance on help. and the gringos are not much better lol ;) you even pay for your drink in advance *(like help). i´m not there to pick up. i like catching the girls´ eye as they work their prey – most don´t even pretend not to be two-faced. there´s one pretty girl who is acting quite professionally with her trick, but she would want (and get) more than i am willing to pay in money or time just now. am nursing my coke juggling other options when i recognise simone.

simone is a lovely girl i´ve spent a number of nights with in the sack, or just bar-hopping and chilling with. she´s watched my back on a number of occasions (you need as many friends as you can get in the nog / prado area), dodged bullets during the nearby favela war a couple of years back and, best of all, she is never jealous when i fuck another woman. i´m pleased to see her and we exchange hugs. she´s moved from barata ribeiro to a new place on paula freitas – more helpee country. she´s fixed her hair, fixed her once self-deprecating attitude, even fixed her tendency to winge – but she´s also fixed her prices. previously i don´t think i´ve ever paid her more than 100r. now if i want to screw her, she´s having none of it. “i´m your friend, not your girlfriend!” she retorts. what she means is, if you see a girl regularly from that type of circle and she may well give you cut rates if she likes you, plus maybe stop going to help so much. the downside is she´ll be possessive – the ´discretion´ of her not touting for biz extends to you not doing any with anyone else. bad deal in my books.

but we are enjoying each other´s company so i get her back to my apartment. sweet talk her on the veranda, which overlooks the morro over leme and also the sea. her kisses taste a bit like a cocker-spaniel – warm and very wet rather than a chemical explosion. she has forgotten the 200r price tag. we´ve got past 150r and i think i am about to close the deal at 100r when i make some tasteless joke about her frickin cat and blow the atmosphere. we´re back to 150r or nothing. while that´s maybe not a fortune, it sticks in my throat more than 100r. i walk her back to balcony and she makes me walk her as far as copa palace to ´prove´ she´s not working that night.

nogueira is just about kicking off. i do my usual – tip the most senior person about 5r on the first drink. i´ve been doing this for years and it keeps me right. wads of cash will get you pretend respect for one night, as well as an idiot sticker on your forehead. taking time to respect who should be paid and how much is a better deal. when customers are getting told to move out the way, or vacate tables when they´re not eating, i get treated like one of the family. not that i would push it. they would have me wasted as soon as anyone else if i crossed them.

average bucket-load of women. i avoid the commitment of sitting down for a while until i have to give in. she looks like juliette lewis (who i have the hots for). she even has the same body language. she´s sexy as hell, one aureole half-peeking from the lovely dress that barely contains her bursting bosom. only downside is she´s pissed. i don´t mind a pissed woman – they can be totally abandoned and wild – but it´s a fine line before they become a liability or asleep or dead or all three. but we´re stroking each other´s legs and it´s nice for now so i spring her a skol.

the singer recognises me and screws her face up trying to remember. i got on brilliantly with her sister, long-term gfe, who now lives in paris with her boyfriend and is doing very well thank you. singer sister is another matter however. i tried to shag her one night and it went disastrously wrong. but we both realise nog is too small to have an ´atmosphere´ with anyone there. we both backed down (fortunately for me). we smile and promise to catch up, which we probably won´t.

i´ve now had time to assess the women there. the best option (if juliette lewis flakes out on me) is a tall, sober girl called thais. a good sign is that she gets on well with everyone (druggies, for instance, tend to get cold-shouldered by clean girls). she makes herself at home and helps out behind the bar. i wait until the prick she´s with has decided it´s bedtime – on his own. i dodge a down-and-out of indeterminate sex that keeps forcibly offering to share his/her water bottle. then i feel guilty not using my brain to think of a more human response. thais and i are the last ones in the bar. the staff are accosting juliette lewis who has got in a cab without the means to pay her bill and is futilely suggesting to them i should pay. i walk out with thais.

she´s doing the thoroughly-decent-girl pitch and i´m too weary to mention prices. it will be 200 – the magic number – but more than i will pay. we have drinks on the veranda – fortunately simone hasn´t left any annoying traces, she´s lovely like that. thais offers me a (straight) massage. i say ok. her kisses taste like honey, her body, glimpsed as she gets in the shower, is highly edible. but she´s still going through the “i don´t do this sort of thing” motions. either she´ll end up good gfe or she´ll change her tune at crunch-time. no knowing.

she says the massage will be 50r. i agree. she only lets me gets fleeting tastes of her lips and breasts (during the massage), but it´s all done in quite a nice flirtatious way. she´s been saying no sex all along. i wait for her exception. it comes in at 200r for a ´present´. i flat refuse. arms and legs and m0assage positions later, and she´s sitting on my face, arching her back as i swallow her clit and she shakes all over. just part of the massage of course, but bloody nice!

once she´s come (or come close to coming), the nice girl image returns. she will only do sex (like what we´ve just done doesn´t count) for 200r. i argue for 150r. she asks for 150r plus the 50r for the massage. i refuse. eventually she gives in at 150r tudo but i´ve had enough and call it a day. it´s about 9am. she gives me some help with my samba. i explain that i´ve forked out 600r for a beija-flor fantasia and am too poor to have a lady. she seems quite happy with the 50r for the massage. off she goes. that´s my edeficio-cred gone again and i haven´t even had a shag. my landlady says she´d “rather not know about men that bring a different woman back every night.” i suppose ´two a night´ doesn´t sound much better if i say i didn´t actually shag them??

i nip to the gym then shower to go into town for carnaval stuff and also to see renata. renata is a cheeky girl that i always have a laugh with. she works at ba85. of the six floors, she´s mostly worked at the crap one – the 2nd floor. but the day before when i popped in for a lookee she was on the 3rd floor and i could barely contain my excitement. most of the floors at ba85 have reasonable cubicles and you can even chat the girls up for a date back at your apartment. not the 2nd floor. here, the rats nip your ankles before asking for a tip. the roaches dare you to take your socks off. the cracked vinyl beds will shave the skin off your knees and the management´s idea of helping the environment is one light bulb between a dozen cubicles. by and large it also has the prettiest girls. they might call it turnover temple.

so seeing renata in a fuckable cubicle will be a real treat. not to mention the fixed prices. after the last few hours of early a.m., i am all haggled out. renata is not gfe. i get a kick out of doing indescribably lovely things with her indescribably lovely body and she gets a kick out extracting money from me. once, after doing her several times in a row at 10r for 10 minutes, i gave her a 50r note in front of everyone. i don´t do this sort of thing – you shouldn´t – but i knew the effect i would get and it was worth it. she jumped up and down like a kid when all her birthdays have come at once, her expression i´ll probably remember for ever. it was julie andrews resounding the sound of music through the hills and valleys and a narrow staircase. another time, renata pissed in the waste bucket before we shagged just to save time. or had an explosive orgasm and then told me time was up, just to watch me leave with a hard-on. her humour is wicked and i like her.

so i spring up the stairs. but the spring leaves my step completely when i see her on the second floor. what happened? i am forlorn. turns out she was just visiting. while the other floors are ´nice´, floor two is a boot camp. guys lured in by pretty chicks and hustled out again by horrid conditions. i´ve flat refused to see renata in here even though i like her a lot. i try to get her phone number but she is terrified the boss will see her. ok, i say, 10 mins in the room (10r) just to get phone numbers, no sex. ok, but 15 is minimum. into the certified rathole and get her number. but i´m horny as hell seeing her again. might as well use the time as i´m here. i´d rather walk on broken beer bottles mixed with gravel and septicaemia rags than lie on the floor two bed. so we will have to do it standing up. a quick lick and i can see her clit is already very swollen – either she´s pleased to see me or she´s been getting into her work this morning. i lift her up with one hand – she´s incredibly light – to do the deed that thais denied me. fabulous. except the cubicle is too narrow for even any back-and-forth hip movement. so seriously, don´t go there unless it´s to get this lovely girl´s phone number. but i´m having a laugh. forgot to arrive with the right money (15r) so she´s had little trouble getting the 5r change as a tip. now i want to come on her face. she has a gorgeous face. she´s less keen. an extra 10r. no! twenty then? ok.

now when a girl who ´does´ facials does a facial, she goes into pornstar mode, straining with outstretched tongue to catch a few drops of dew. renata doesn´t. predictably, she screws her face up. i cradle it with one hand. “there!” she points at a spot on her cheek. that will be right! (not!) she´s getting a full spray i´m afraid, though i try to keep it out of her hair. nice. now i will need some vm to exercise the batteries.

first of all, nip to botafogo for a movie – why can´t countries in the west, charging twice the price, make beautiful cinemas like espaco? woody allen is appreciated here. usa, you´re not good enough for him.

home. shower. flag a 455 bus (meier) from copa to vm. strikes me how flagging a bus here needs the same attitude as telling a brasilian woman what to do. the bus/woman doesn´t have to do what they´re told but they don´t respect anything that doesn´t look authoritative.

the bus journey has the added entertainment of a flea-ridden wheelchair guy who gets three people to haul him up the steps. later, on pres. vargas, i almost fall asleep enjoying the warm summer air through the window. feel the bus ascend as it hits the flyover and mr wheelchair´s fleas jump at me. i jump up so as not to miss my stop. get to vm as the first drops of rain fall.

why i like the rain

i have forgotten to bring anything to keep the wet off. bugger! first few casas have some awesome looking girls. young, attractive, fresh-looking. makes balcony look like last chance saloon. but they can pick and choose. i wander on, check out the u-street. plenty of uber-uglies who have been hit by a dumptruck, dragged through a scrapyard by their feet first, then marinated in a mixture of vomit, gangrene and last week´s trash. the rain is enough to convey the odour of dog poo uniformly around vm without washing it away. very atmospheric.

a couple of bleary-eyed, beer-sozzled gringos with vacant expressions try to bond with me. sorry guys, you´re not my type. i manage to lose them quickly. the bandeira side of vm looks better tonight, even though moving from casa to casa means dodging the raindrops. i settle for a tall girl called juliani (casa 39). quite tidy, clean and a quiet, self-contained way about her. in the room, i start to worry about her attitude. won´t let me kiss her breasts or between her legs. she has a slightly wooden expression all of a sudden and we need to do something about that. i start pounding her to the rhythm of the loud hiphop music, shaking her body in time till i get a smile. she starts getting into it and thrusting back and she´s nice and slim so can grind her pubic bone against me as we fuck. she´s also quite strong. it´s one of the more athletic shags i´ve had lately – nice when a woman can hold her own – and her own weight – in unusual positions and still generate plenty of thrust. we soon are both bathed in a vast amount of sweat. part of it is the heat of course. part of it just feels bloody good. she ekes the time out but eventually asks if i want to pay for more. i decline, say i´ll see her another night.

a bit later i´m wondering where to hang until the rain, which is now quite heavy, decides to stop. the u-street has the most bars but is depressingly awful, and the rain still comes in at the joins. i opt for the end bar, the first of the ´steps up´ bars after the initial passageway casa (approaching from the west). this is where the nicest chicks are tonight. i might as well be in the right place.

(i´m giving casa numbers for aficionados, but vm girls move and change quite often – don´t rely on the details even from one night to the next. this is no.44, i think, or “kasinha 44” as the mama calls it.)some young guys and old soaks. now to get a young girl against the competition, the attitude has to be right. the advice from a samba teacher is probably good and applies equally: “smile: the key rule is, don´t make it sexy. you will look arch, or coy or, if you are working really hard, terribly american. your smile should be the full-tilt cheer of someone watching their favourite team hit a home run. or it should imitate the curve of a hindu deity´s.” i just wanted to look nice and approachable. (you can of course just go straight up and ask, but that tends to result in a wooden performance.)

eventually xxxx casts me a glance as she saunters past to the jukebox. my open smile disguises that i´m still on heat and gives me time to ask her name. she enjoys the distraction. it occurs to me that the rain has worked to my advantage – there are less people popping in and out of the bar. so the girls might think, “why not use the guys that are there?” she is easily a 9. up in the room, her body is perfect. large, soft, perfectly formed bosoms full of youthful spring. large aureoles. silky skin that has that barely-touched-by-human-hand feel (much less a thousand vm gorillas). and an attitude to match. everything i do manages to elicit a natural curiosity and eagerness, combined with a full-blown sexuality that says she enjoys her own body. lovely, loving, awesome, dirty, pristinely gorgeous shag.

ok. had enough. why stay in the rain? haggle a taxi. not like me but i don´t fancy even the short walk past the new roadworks to the bus stop. get him down from 30 to 25r, which is close enough to the meter price and good value in this weather. his meter looks held together with sellotape anyway and probably hasn´t been used since fred and ginger made flying down to rio. home. cook something nice. bed.

now if the all-night cybercafé on prado/ns copa hadn´t shut/moved you might have had this sooner. but most cafes have crappy keyboards that are glued together with guarana or whatever or are only open at unsocial (ie daytime) hours. if anyone knows an east-copa 24hr job, please let me know. i´ve walked all the way to the one on rudolpho dantas to type this, which has nice kit but is only open 10am-3am. and too many australians skyping each other.

happy carnaval.

christopherd.

Java Man
02-05-09, 19:06
Nogueira is currently closed. (I was in Rio for 2 weeks and left on 02/02/09.) Speculation is that it may have been closed by the city for unknown reasons. I saw about 3 guys working inside it late one night, so it may reopen.

Cho 637
02-05-09, 19:22
How can I get viagra or cialis in Rio? Do I need prescription?

I'm going next Friday and I've been searching the web with no results. Try google viagra brasil and you get millions of online pharmacies. Hopeless

No prescription needed. Any Farmácia.

Bravo
02-05-09, 21:41
does anyone know a good facial physical therapist in copa. i got diagnosed with choque termicou yesterday and i need to start treatment. thx in advance

Mangera
02-06-09, 01:14
places i don´t recommend (but i love;) )

actually, that´s an overstatement. i don´t love balcony. but i wanted to point out that just cos these other places happen to suit my tastes i do not suggest you go there, especially if you are new to brasil or if you like creature comforts. in fact, there are strong reasons not to go there and very specific reasons why i do, so read on if you are not sure. all statements are just my opinion based on recent experience.

nogueira – balcony – ba85 – vm

although staying in centro makes more sense if you like cheap end and/or want to do the official carnaval parade, nogueira is one of the reasons i chose to stay in copa just now (combined with the ridiculously generous rate my landlady´s giving me).

there are no equivalent late night haunts i know of. even if, by all standards of good taste, nogueira sucks. and if you take a dawn-break girl from nogueira back to your place in centro, the copa magic has evaporated by the time you get into the city.

´nog´ is on viv.min.d.castro between prado junior and princesa isabel. opposite barbarellas. decorated with girls that sit on car bonnets waiting for people to rob. it gets going around 5am when two guitarists play a medley of western and brasilian hits. guest singers join them (the female ones are generally available, but i have had my share of problems with one). it´s laid back, a mix of top talent (mostly from nearby boites as they close), unsuccessful hookers from help and balcony, down-and-outs, druggies, trannies, drunks and working girls who have finished working for the night and are just enjoying eating and drinking with their mates. it´s a good place for newbies to get eaten alive, hence the warning notice. also, to get a gem, you have to have patience and cunning. i like the challenge. some of the best gfe´s i´ve had have been from nog. but you wade through a lot of sh*t first.

i couldn´t wait on tuesday night /wednesday morning and looked in at 3am. dead. i pretend i haven´t, and go to balcony to get some air and wait for nog to open. i detest balcony. it´s on the seafront, a few blocks from isabel and is unashamedly loaded with beer-bellied ugly f*cks who don´t want to spend the entrance on help. and the gringos are not much better lol ;) you even pay for your drink in advance *(like help). i´m not there to pick up. i like catching the girls´ eye as they work their prey – most don´t even pretend not to be two-faced. there´s one pretty girl who is acting quite professionally with her trick, but she would want (and get) more than i am willing to pay in money or time just now. am nursing my coke juggling other options when i recognise simone.

simone is a lovely girl i´ve spent a number of nights with in the sack, or just bar-hopping and chilling with. she´s watched my back on a number of occasions (you need as many friends as you can get in the nog / prado area), dodged bullets during the nearby favela war a couple of years back and, best of all, she is never jealous when i fuck another woman. i´m pleased to see her and we exchange hugs. she´s moved from barata ribeiro to a new place on paula freitas – more helpee country. she´s fixed her hair, fixed her once self-deprecating attitude, even fixed her tendency to winge – but she´s also fixed her prices. previously i don´t think i´ve ever paid her more than 100r. now if i want to screw her, she´s having none of it. “i´m your friend, not your girlfriend!” she retorts. what she means is, if you see a girl regularly from that type of circle and she may well give you cut rates if she likes you, plus maybe stop going to help so much. the downside is she´ll be possessive – the ´discretion´ of her not touting for biz extends to you not doing any with anyone else. bad deal in my books.

but we are enjoying each other´s company so i get her back to my apartment. sweet talk her on the veranda, which overlooks the morro over leme and also the sea. her kisses taste a bit like a cocker-spaniel – warm and very wet rather than a chemical explosion. she has forgotten the 200r price tag. we´ve got past 150r and i think i am about to close the deal at 100r when i make some tasteless joke about her frickin cat and blow the atmosphere. we´re back to 150r or nothing. while that´s maybe not a fortune, it sticks in my throat more than 100r. i walk her back to balcony and she makes me walk her as far as copa palace to ´prove´ she´s not working that night.

nogueira is just about kicking off. i do my usual – tip the most senior person about 5r on the first drink. i´ve been doing this for years and it keeps me right. wads of cash will get you pretend respect for one night, as well as an idiot sticker on your forehead. taking time to respect who should be paid and how much is a better deal. when customers are getting told to move out the way, or vacate tables when they´re not eating, i get treated like one of the family. not that i would push it. they would have me wasted as soon as anyone else if i crossed them.

average bucket-load of women. i avoid the commitment of sitting down for a while until i have to give in. she looks like juliette lewis (who i have the hots for). she even has the same body language. she´s sexy as hell, one aureole half-peeking from the lovely dress that barely contains her bursting bosom. only downside is she´s pissed. i don´t mind a pissed woman – they can be totally abandoned and wild – but it´s a fine line before they become a liability or asleep or dead or all three. but we´re stroking each other´s legs and it´s nice for now so i spring her a skol.

the singer recognises me and screws her face up trying to remember. i got on brilliantly with her sister, long-term gfe, who now lives in paris with her boyfriend and is doing very well thank you. singer sister is another matter however. i tried to shag her one night and it went disastrously wrong. but we both realise nog is too small to have an ´atmosphere´ with anyone there. we both backed down (fortunately for me). we smile and promise to catch up, which we probably won´t.

i´ve now had time to assess the women there. the best option (if juliette lewis flakes out on me) is a tall, sober girl called thais. a good sign is that she gets on well with everyone (druggies, for instance, tend to get cold-shouldered by clean girls). she makes herself at home and helps out behind the bar. i wait until the prick she´s with has decided it´s bedtime – on his own. i dodge a down-and-out of indeterminate sex that keeps forcibly offering to share his/her water bottle. then i feel guilty not using my brain to think of a more human response. thais and i are the last ones in the bar. the staff are accosting juliette lewis who has got in a cab without the means to pay her bill and is futilely suggesting to them i should pay. i walk out with thais.

she´s doing the thoroughly-decent-girl pitch and i´m too weary to mention prices. it will be 200 – the magic number – but more than i will pay. we have drinks on the veranda – fortunately simone hasn´t left any annoying traces, she´s lovely like that. thais offers me a (straight) massage. i say ok. her kisses taste like honey, her body, glimpsed as she gets in the shower, is highly edible. but she´s still going through the “i don´t do this sort of thing” motions. either she´ll end up good gfe or she´ll change her tune at crunch-time. no knowing.

she says the massage will be 50r. i agree. she only lets me gets fleeting tastes of her lips and breasts (during the massage), but it´s all done in quite a nice flirtatious way. she´s been saying no sex all along. i wait for her exception. it comes in at 200r for a ´present´. i flat refuse. arms and legs and m0assage positions later, and she´s sitting on my face, arching her back as i swallow her clit and she shakes all over. just part of the massage of course, but bloody nice!

once she´s come (or come close to coming), the nice girl image returns. she will only do sex (like what we´ve just done doesn´t count) for 200r. i argue for 150r. she asks for 150r plus the 50r for the massage. i refuse. eventually she gives in at 150r tudo but i´ve had enough and call it a day. it´s about 9am. she gives me some help with my samba. i explain that i´ve forked out 600r for a beija-flor fantasia and am too poor to have a lady. she seems quite happy with the 50r for the massage. off she goes. that´s my edeficio-cred gone again and i haven´t even had a shag. my landlady says she´d “rather not know about men that bring a different woman back every night.” i suppose ´two a night´ doesn´t sound much better if i say i didn´t actually shag them??

i nip to the gym then shower to go into town for carnaval stuff and also to see renata. renata is a cheeky girl that i always have a laugh with. she works at ba85. of the six floors, she´s mostly worked at the crap one – the 2nd floor. but the day before when i popped in for a lookee she was on the 3rd floor and i could barely contain my excitement. most of the floors at ba85 have reasonable cubicles and you can even chat the girls up for a date back at your apartment. not the 2nd floor. here, the rats nip your ankles before asking for a tip. the roaches dare you to take your socks off. the cracked vinyl beds will shave the skin off your knees and the management´s idea of helping the environment is one light bulb between a dozen cubicles. by and large it also has the prettiest girls. they might call it turnover temple.

so seeing renata in a fuckable cubicle will be a real treat. not to mention the fixed prices. after the last few hours of early a.m., i am all haggled out. renata is not gfe. i get a kick out of doing indescribably lovely things with her indescribably lovely body and she gets a kick out extracting money from me. once, after doing her several times in a row at 10r for 10 minutes, i gave her a 50r note in front of everyone. i don´t do this sort of thing – you shouldn´t – but i knew the effect i would get and it was worth it. she jumped up and down like a kid when all her birthdays have come at once, her expression i´ll probably remember for ever. it was julie andrews resounding the sound of music through the hills and valleys and a narrow staircase. another time, renata pissed in the waste bucket before we shagged just to save time. or had an explosive orgasm and then told me time was up, just to watch me leave with a hard-on. her humour is wicked and i like her.

so i spring up the stairs. but the spring leaves my step completely when i see her on the second floor. what happened? i am forlorn. turns out she was just visiting. while the other floors are ´nice´, floor two is a boot camp. guys lured in by pretty chicks and hustled out again by horrid conditions. i´ve flat refused to see renata in here even though i like her a lot. i try to get her phone number but she is terrified the boss will see her. ok, i say, 10 mins in the room (10r) just to get phone numbers, no sex. ok, but 15 is minimum. into the certified rathole and get her number. but i´m horny as hell seeing her again. might as well use the time as i´m here. i´d rather walk on broken beer bottles mixed with gravel and septicaemia rags than lie on the floor two bed. so we will have to do it standing up. a quick lick and i can see her clit is already very swollen – either she´s pleased to see me or she´s been getting into her work this morning. i lift her up with one hand – she´s incredibly light – to do the deed that thais denied me. fabulous. except the cubicle is too narrow for even any back-and-forth hip movement. so seriously, don´t go there unless it´s to get this lovely girl´s phone number. but i´m having a laugh. forgot to arrive with the right money (15r) so she´s had little trouble getting the 5r change as a tip. now i want to come on her face. she has a gorgeous face. she´s less keen. an extra 10r. no! twenty then? ok.

now when a girl who ´does´ facials does a facial, she goes into pornstar mode, straining with outstretched tongue to catch a few drops of dew. renata doesn´t. predictably, she screws her face up. i cradle it with one hand. “there!” she points at a spot on her cheek. that will be right! (not!) she´s getting a full spray i´m afraid, though i try to keep it out of her hair. nice. now i will need some vm to exercise the batteries.

first of all, nip to botafogo for a movie – why can´t countries in the west, charging twice the price, make beautiful cinemas like espaco? woody allen is appreciated here. usa, you´re not good enough for him.

home. shower. flag a 455 bus (meier) from copa to vm. strikes me how flagging a bus here needs the same attitude as telling a brasilian woman what to do. the bus/woman doesn´t have to do what they´re told but they don´t respect anything that doesn´t look authoritative.

the bus journey has the added entertainment of a flea-ridden wheelchair guy who gets three people to haul him up the steps. later, on pres. vargas, i almost fall asleep enjoying the warm summer air through the window. feel the bus ascend as it hits the flyover and mr wheelchair´s fleas jump at me. i jump up so as not to miss my stop. get to vm as the first drops of rain fall.

why i like the rain

i have forgotten to bring anything to keep the wet off. bugger! first few casas have some awesome looking girls. young, attractive, fresh-looking. makes balcony look like last chance saloon. but they can pick and choose. i wander on, check out the u-street. plenty of uber-uglies who have been hit by a dumptruck, dragged through a scrapyard by their feet first, then marinated in a mixture of vomit, gangrene and last week´s trash. the rain is enough to convey the odour of dog poo uniformly around vm without washing it away. very atmospheric.

a couple of bleary-eyed, beer-sozzled gringos with vacant expressions try to bond with me. sorry guys, you´re not my type. i manage to lose them quickly. the bandeira side of vm looks better tonight, even though moving from casa to casa means dodging the raindrops. i settle for a tall girl called juliani (casa 39). quite tidy, clean and a quiet, self-contained way about her. in the room, i start to worry about her attitude. won´t let me kiss her breasts or between her legs. she has a slightly wooden expression all of a sudden and we need to do something about that. i start pounding her to the rhythm of the loud hiphop music, shaking her body in time till i get a smile. she starts getting into it and thrusting back and she´s nice and slim so can grind her pubic bone against me as we fuck. she´s also quite strong. it´s one of the more athletic shags i´ve had lately – nice when a woman can hold her own – and her own weight – in unusual positions and still generate plenty of thrust. we soon are both bathed in a vast amount of sweat. part of it is the heat of course. part of it just feels bloody good. she ekes the time out but eventually asks if i want to pay for more. i decline, say i´ll see her another night.

a bit later i´m wondering where to hang until the rain, which is now quite heavy, decides to stop. the u-street has the most bars but is depressingly awful, and the rain still comes in at the joins. i opt for the end bar, the first of the ´steps up´ bars after the initial passageway casa (approaching from the west). this is where the nicest chicks are tonight. i might as well be in the right place.

(i´m giving casa numbers for aficionados, but vm girls move and change quite often – don´t rely on the details even from one night to the next. this is no.44, i think, or “kasinha 44” as the mama calls it.)some young guys and old soaks. now to get a young girl against the competition, the attitude has to be right. the advice from a samba teacher is probably good and applies equally: “smile: the key rule is, don´t make it sexy. you will look arch, or coy or, if you are working really hard, terribly american. your smile should be the full-tilt cheer of someone watching their favourite team hit a home run. or it should imitate the curve of a hindu deity´s.” i just wanted to look nice and approachable. (you can of course just go straight up and ask, but that tends to result in a wooden performance.)

eventually xxxx casts me a glance as she saunters past to the jukebox. my open smile disguises that i´m still on heat and gives me time to ask her name. she enjoys the distraction. it occurs to me that the rain has worked to my advantage – there are less people popping in and out of the bar. so the girls might think, “why not use the guys that are there?” she is easily a 9. up in the room, her body is perfect. large, soft, perfectly formed bosoms full of youthful spring. large aureoles. silky skin that has that barely-touched-by-human-hand feel (much less a thousand vm gorillas). and an attitude to match. everything i do manages to elicit a natural curiosity and eagerness, combined with a full-blown sexuality that says she enjoys her own body. lovely, loving, awesome, dirty, pristinely gorgeous shag.

ok. had enough. why stay in the rain? haggle a taxi. not like me but i don´t fancy even the short walk past the new roadworks to the bus stop. get him down from 30 to 25r, which is close enough to the meter price and good value in this weather. his meter looks held together with sellotape anyway and probably hasn´t been used since fred and ginger made flying down to rio. home. cook something nice. bed.

now if the all-night cybercafé on prado/ns copa hadn´t shut/moved you might have had this sooner. but most cafes have crappy keyboards that are glued together with guarana or whatever or are only open at unsocial (ie daytime) hours. if anyone knows an east-copa 24hr job, please let me know. i´ve walked all the way to the one on rudolpho dantas to type this, which has nice kit but is only open 10am-3am. and too many australians skyping each other.

happy carnaval.

christopherd.
thanks again for putting in the time to write an excellent report about a day/night in rio according to your experiences. i felt as though i was there watching everything go down. keep up the good work.

Jan 156
02-06-09, 03:40
Nogueira is currently closed. (I was in Rio for 2 weeks and left on 02/02/09.) Speculation is that it may have been closed by the city for unknown reasons. I saw about 3 guys working inside it late one night, so it may reopen.

Errm, no it´s not. See my report. I was there last night.

Jan 156
02-06-09, 04:14
Apart from the gross-outs on Av.Atlantica and the few on the slip-road to Lapa, traditional street walkers seem a rarity. Partly cos there´s always better options perhaps?

Tonight I couldn´t be bothered to wait for the bus that goes to Praca Bandeira (VM) so got one that drops you round the corner by the railway station. This is quite handy if you like to go the back way, but I don´t think I´m comfortable enough to do that at night. So I walk round to Praca Bandeira, following the lower road till it rejoins the one from the flyover. And I am quite pleasantly surprised to see three hussies doing a roadside pitch. I don´t know if it is a regular occurence or whether they had just decided to give it a go. Not really doable, but interesting to look at. One with grotesquely enormous breasts and a body that looked as if it had been hacked up to compile them. She has one of those halters that only hookers wear, just to save any possibility of doubt. I think there would be a major oil-spill once she undid it. Her friend is anorexically thin and flat-chested, with a face drained of expression perhaps by many years of drugs that she coiuld no longer afford. The third was busy talking to a punter and I couldn´t see.

Sprite13
02-06-09, 05:48
Very nice report Christopherd! I thoroughly enjoyed reading it! Keep'em coming!:)

How's the weather down in Rio these days? Hoping and praying for lots of sun and a smeltering heat during the week of Carnval as I am freezing my ass off in here! it's -30C as I am typing this!!!! Can't f*cking wait till I am in Rio in 2 weeks time!!!

Sunset Strip
02-06-09, 08:19
Chris and others,

I was with her back in January. She works on the second floor of BA85 and is usually standing outside in front of the door. If you have been there you have seen her. Personally, I think she has a homely little face, but to each his own.

I banged her in Jan. becuase the second floor is usually the only one open on a Saturday and that is usually my last full day in Rio.

Since it is hard to get off in those small cubicles I had to jack off. It was funny because she was watching me intently but vut her eyes away when I looked at her watching me. I think she is a bit kinky but tries to hide it. Her **** does get wet, especially if you rub it.

As an American I find the second floor very interesting. It is very dirty and the crowd a bit strange.

The bar guy is ok but began charging me R$4 for beer for some reason. They do not know I am American, but Renata knows I am not Brazilian.

I really used to like the blond who used to work on that floor. She is the bartender on the 3rd floor now. She can give a good BJ and throws that butt around in doggie style.


TJ

Jan 156
02-06-09, 15:16
Thanks Mangeira, Sprite and others - nice to know the report was appreciated. Sprite - weather is roasting around 26 degrees and above, but showers or thunderstorms are common too. So if you´re in town and see it getting dark you head home quickly lol.

Jan 156
02-06-09, 15:20
I banged her in Jan. becuase the second floor is usually the only one open on a Saturday and that is usually my last full day in Rio.

Since it is hard to get off in those small cubicles I had to jack off. It was funny because she was watching me intently but vut her eyes away when I looked at her watching me. I think she is a bit kinky but tries to hide it. Her **** does get wet, especially if you rub it.


ROFL! I agree. I do think she enjoys kinky but more from a wild nature than a desire to please. We make each other laugh and I´m usually pleased to see her. Think I have posted pics of her a year or two back. Anyone had her for LT? The BA girls are usually a bargain. Haven´t got a price from her yet (still trying to persuade her that it is ok to spend money on a text message ;)

JohnnyBraz
02-06-09, 16:04
Another good one from ba 85. Shes been there a few years now.

Madd Love
02-06-09, 16:04
i haven't been blind-sided by a gdp yet, but it could easily happen because of these cyber casanovas who feel that getting in the gdps good graces may yield a free blowjob.
many terma girls didn't let me take face pics, but they were happy to oblige me on action shots, which are anonymous.

my safeguards are that i don’t visit may be 2 (or 3) times per year. i don't post the pics right away, and usually don’t repeat with the same helpee shark twice.

in november, i repeated with a help girl which i had taken in july when was great. but she didn't remember me, meaning i must not have been that great:(
i showed her the pics i took of her in july. she was amused and said she didn't remember that blouse:) (the pics were on laptop, not the forum).

i think the guys who live in gig have more to worry about than occasional visitors. these gdps fuck way too many guys and drinking/partying most nights that probably can’t remember the client past a few weeks.

yeah i believe some guys on here are rats, about pics. next time i ask a girl for pic and she declines, i will decline spending time with her.

Jan 156
02-07-09, 02:04
Where´s the best lowlife social?

I had to go back to Cidade de Samba today (Gamboa) and tried to find a nice route back (to N.Centro). Thru the tunel and left along Sen. Pompeau was quite scenic. Two women held my eye at one point. They are just sitting on the pavement off to the left - might have been Costa Ferreira. They proposition me with no visible terma in sight and I reckon they are maybe freelancing in the sun. I should have done one just to find out. But I had a vision of an ice cold drink in Leandro Martins 5 so just flirted a bit and moved on.

I´ve sidestepped it for a while as a regular was a wee bit possessive, but pleased I looked in again. This must be one of the most sociable lowlife places to visit with a friend - what do you think? It gets beter each visit, often a party atmosphere. Mary, from behind the bar, follows me to a seat and massages my shorts in a non-pushy way. She´s very warm and affectionate so I go for 20R´s worth (can´t remember if that´s 20 or 30 mins). Nice BBBJ as if she´s wanted to do it all her life. She slaps some white cream on her fanny which is slightly offputting but I´m horny from the sun. Once inside her she is giving it overtime with those inner muscles exercises. I just stay still for a few minutes as she massages me with her inner vagina.

Most places at 1R a min are so unsociable to go with someone. LM5´s only drawback is it is out of the way (and could be confused with LM3 which remains awful). There´s a sign saying Vanessa Rio´s. Maybe about the same level as Casarao, but always brightly lit, good sociable music, and nice tables and girls that make the thing swing. And there´s a great yakisoba place just across the street - good plate of Jap-style noodles and whatever for under 10R.

Head home eventually and a fabulous sandwich at Cervantes. To my amazement, they pull out a photo/postcard I sent them three years ago and pass it round the staff.