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Poucolouco
01-02-09, 02:33
Gents,

I was wondering what the HIV/STD situation is in Rio. Have any of you caught anything or have heard anything regarding VD's ?

I know that Brazil has one of the highest HIV rates in South America, obviously a WG is always at a higher risk then others.

Your comments and suggestions will be very much appreciated.

Thank you.
There's a thread on Safe Sex in Brasil below.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2470

JohnnyBraz
01-02-09, 03:59
Gents,

I was wondering what the HIV/STD situation is in Rio. Have any of you caught anything or have heard anything regarding VD's ?

I know that Brazil has one of the highest HIV rates in South America, obviously a WG is always at a higher risk then others.

Your comments and suggestions will be very much appreciated.

Thank you.The percent of population with hiv:

Usa. 6 %

Brazil. 7 %

Australia. 1 %

It is hardly any different to the United States.

Jan 156
01-02-09, 18:28
Saw this while browsing in the bookshop today
http://www.amazon.com/Brazil-Culture-Smart-customs-etiquette/dp/1857333233/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230917038&sr=1-1

It's almost an A-Z of the gaffes foreigners make in Brasil, not condescending, and a pretty good guide whether for social or business. I've seen so many situations get out of hand simply cos visitors assumed that what was polite and normal in their country would be similar in Brasil (especially some Americans, but it could be any culture that is radically different to Brasil's).

Jazzy Daddy
01-02-09, 19:14
Saw this while browsing in the bookshop today
http://www.amazon.com/Brazil-Culture-Smart-customs-etiquette/dp/1857333233/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230917038&sr=1-1

It's almost an A-Z of the gaffes foreigners make in Brasil, not condescending, and a pretty good guide whether for social or business. I've seen so many situations get out of hand simply cos visitors assumed that what was polite and normal in their country would be similar in Brasil (especially some Americans, but it could be any culture that is radically different to Brasil's).

I would amend that to say "especially some Brits"...

Jan 156
01-02-09, 22:26
I would amend that to say "especially some Brits"...
mea culpa!!

Just for you Jazzy:
I've seen so many situations get out of hand simply cos visitors assumed that what was polite and normal in their country would be similar in Brasil (especially some Brits, but it could be any culture that is radically different to Brasil's).

Though actually I haven't. Brits tend to just stand there and look dumb ;)

No offence intended - One is not better than the other - American (US) culture is more at odds with Brasilian culture than European is IMO. Funnily enough, most of the Americans I've met from ISG have not only been very sensitive to cultural issues but (such as your good self) can blend in better than I can. I think the mongers on here must maybe be a more culturally attuned lot than the ones who aren't.

The other thing is, there are more American tourists in Brasil than most any other tourist (except perhaps for Brasilians). Or should I say 'US tourist' - as Brasilians also think of themselves as 'American' . . . Why isn't there a better word than 'yanks' to describe people from the U.S.A.??

BionicMan
01-03-09, 00:19
Gents,

I was wondering what the HIV/STD situation is in Rio. Have any of you caught anything or have heard anything regarding VD's ?

I know that Brazil has one of the highest HIV rates in South America, obviously a WG is always at a higher risk then others.

Your comments and suggestions will be very much appreciated.

Thank you.

Just go on the WHO website and it will answer to all your questions you spread around many forums on HIV in different countries...:)

Jan 156
01-03-09, 04:35
I was just have a little fun, my friend...

That's ok - I know you were ;)

But speaking of fun, have you learnt your carnaval samba song yet?? I've just noticed they're available for download. Just when I thought my Porto was getting not bad . . . :D

JohnnyBraz
01-03-09, 11:44
It is a proven fact that the hiv test gives a false reading so those stats are false. Now if you have stats on how many people have full blown aids that is different.Well them are from the who site, all being brazil. 07 percent off population, usa. 06 percent off population and australia. 01 percent off population. If you know any different please disclose it.

Jan 156
01-03-09, 14:43
I hate to even prolong this - Joe Biden asks this question on various forums like some do-gooder trying to frighten mongers. Biden, if you are a monger, how about you give us some field reports?? Or even tell us what you do to avoid getting HIV??

This nitpicking is both inappropriate on ISG and your specific questions should, as has already been pointed out, go on the appropriate thread. In fact, there is a global thread where you can argue it.

If you are a sexually active adult, you should be taking precautions, consistent with your own judgement on the safety levels you want to assume. If you only ever have sex with one partner, who has never had blood transfusions or sex with anyone else (maybe cos you keep her locked in the cellar?), that is one example near the extreme of safety.

In practice, a monger, like any other sexually active person, should perhaps take precautions (at least IHMO) as if every person they slept with has HIV. In other words, use a condom, find the sort that suits you best, and learn to use it properly in varying conditions. Maybe a bit like, look both ways before crossing the road, look again, and don't do it when your shoe-laces are undone or there's a blind corner.

Trying to demarcate a particular group as more probable is maybe ok for those that have to make judgements on how to target the disease nationally. For individuals it is a form of discrimination that bewails your own lack of responsibility. Take your own health seriously instead of passing the buck to people you sleep with.

Compared to many countries, Brasil has had one of the more effective public health campaigns, so most working girls are very aware and take precautions. Not like the countries beholden to Mr GW Bush and his born-again cronies that condemn condom use.

Now, how about we try to get back on track?

Mangera
01-03-09, 15:31
I hate to even prolong this - Joe Biden asks this question on various forums like some do-gooder trying to frighten mongers. Biden, if you are a monger, how about you give us some field reports?? Or even tell us what you do to avoid getting HIV??

This nitpicking is both inappropriate on ISG and your specific questions should, as has already been pointed out, go on the appropriate thread. In fact, there is a global thread where you can argue it.

If you are a sexually active adult, you should be taking precautions, consistent with your own judgement on the safety levels you want to assume. If you only ever have sex with one partner, who has never had blood transfusions or sex with anyone else (maybe cos you keep her locked in the cellar?), that is one example near the extreme of safety.

In practice, a monger, like any other sexually active person, should perhaps take precautions (at least IHMO) as if every person they slept with has HIV. In other words, use a condom, find the sort that suits you best, and learn to use it properly in varying conditions. Maybe a bit like, look both ways before crossing the road, look again, and don't do it when your shoe-laces are undone or there's a blind corner.

Trying to demarcate a particular group as more probable is maybe ok for those that have to make judgements on how to target the disease nationally. For individuals it is a form of discrimination that bewails your own lack of responsibility. Take your own health seriously instead of passing the buck to people you sleep with.

Compared to many countries, Brasil has had one of the more effective public health campaigns, so most working girls are very aware and take precautions. Not like the countries beholden to Mr GW Bush and his born-again cronies that condemn condom use.

Now, how about we try to get back on track?

Well said and well done Chris!

Alex Deuce
01-03-09, 17:24
The percent of population with hiv:

Usa. 6 %

Brazil. 7 %

Australia. 1 %

It is hardly any different to the United States.

The above figures are incorrect. The only country numbers that are correct is Brazil. USA, Africa, Australia are all estimates. Brazils are actual reported cases no estimates.

Rodeo9112
01-03-09, 18:18
The above figures are incorrect. The only country numbers that are correct is Brazil. USA, Africa, Australia are all estimates. Brazils are actual reported cases no estimates.I would say that if Brazil's figures are reported cases, then it's probably on the lower end of the actual number, since we know not all cases are reported. At least the countries that use estimates use reported and projected cases.

rodeo

Jazzy Daddy
01-03-09, 23:07
That's ok - I know you were ;)

But speaking of fun, have you learnt your carnaval samba song yet?? I've just noticed they're available for download. Just when I thought my Porto was getting not bad . . . :D

Yes, I almost have it memorized. I bought my fantasia from a loja de beijs-flor and I'm ready to dance and sing na disfile com vc...

Jan 156
01-04-09, 00:14
Yes, I almost have it memorized. I bought my fantasia from a loja de beijs-flor and I'm ready to dance and sing na disfile com vc...

You realise that if we're in the same one there's no-one to take piccies . . . ;)


ps there's a couple of lines I'm struggling to translate - I know we don't need to know the English but it helps for the spirit of the thing . . .

BionicMan
01-04-09, 01:34
I hate to even prolong this - Joe Biden asks this question on various forums like some do-gooder trying to frighten mongers. Biden, if you are a monger, how about you give us some field reports?? Or even tell us what you do to avoid getting HIV??

This nitpicking is both inappropriate on ISG and your specific questions should, as has already been pointed out, go on the appropriate thread. In fact, there is a global thread where you can argue it.

If you are a sexually active adult, you should be taking precautions, consistent with your own judgement on the safety levels you want to assume. If you only ever have sex with one partner, who has never had blood transfusions or sex with anyone else (maybe cos you keep her locked in the cellar?), that is one example near the extreme of safety.

In practice, a monger, like any other sexually active person, should perhaps take precautions (at least IHMO) as if every person they slept with has HIV. In other words, use a condom, find the sort that suits you best, and learn to use it properly in varying conditions. Maybe a bit like, look both ways before crossing the road, look again, and don't do it when your shoe-laces are undone or there's a blind corner.

Trying to demarcate a particular group as more probable is maybe ok for those that have to make judgements on how to target the disease nationally. For individuals it is a form of discrimination that bewails your own lack of responsibility. Take your own health seriously instead of passing the buck to people you sleep with.

Compared to many countries, Brasil has had one of the more effective public health campaigns, so most working girls are very aware and take precautions. Not like the countries beholden to Mr GW Bush and his born-again cronies that condemn condom use.

Now, how about we try to get back on track?

applause!
well said!
I was puzzled too by the same question in a lot of other countries...
case is closed!

Edward M
01-04-09, 08:36
The percent of population with hiv:

Usa. 6 %

Brazil. 7 %

Australia. 1 %

It is hardly any different to the United States.I know that this info is in the wrong thread but I felt I had to make one correctin here. At first glance the way this is written it makes it appear as if the %s are 6%, 7%, and 1% when they are actually 0.6%, 0.7%, and 0.1%, which is overstating by a factor of 10, at least according the the CIA World Factbook.

In another post you wrote:
Well them are from the who site, all being brazil. 07 percent off population, usa. 06 percent off population and australia. 01 percent off population. If you know any different please disclose it.Which understates by a factor of 10, so please be careful with percentages of you may give people the wrong idea.

This is a strange way to me of writing numbers -- attaching the decimal point to the previous word with no leading zero followed by a space and then the number. Is this the norm in some country or is math just not your forte? Note that I know some countries use a comma for a decimal point but this would be:

Brazil 0,7%
USA 0,6%
Australia 0,1%

BionicMan
01-04-09, 22:40
This is a strange way to me of writing numbers -- attaching the decimal point to the previous word with no leading zero followed by a space and then the number. Is this the norm in some country or is math just not your forte? Note that I know some countries use a comma for a decimal point but this would be:

Brazil 0,7%
USA 0,6%
Australia 0,1%

in some countries they omit the "zero" but keep the pint or comma, writing it as:
Brazil .7%
USA .6%
Australia .1%

I would not be surprised that the very first indication reading 7% was actually meant to be:
7 /1000 (with no capability to summarize the 0/00 in one symbol)?

Bernard22
01-05-09, 07:18
I'm sorry to ask this and Im pretty sure this information is somewhere mentioned but I have a hard time finding it.

If I pick up a girl for an hour or a night what are the prices for the girls at help?

I know for example costa rica starts with 80 us dollar and then goes up.

The DR is more like 30 euro for the whole night.

I would love to see a faq with only prices of hotels and mp's etc.

It can be fun to read the stories but it is very time consuming and very often very little information can be extracted. And I have to book in a few days now so time is very important.

There for I ask this question.

How much can I expect to pay for a 25-30 old normal looking girl.

What are the prices of the chepaest hotels.

At this moment I haven't made reservacions for my plane ticket and I'm thinking that Thailand maybe is the better option.

I will be staying for more then a month so a budget is unfortunely a must for me.

Thanks very much

Rodeo9112
01-05-09, 17:04
I'm sorry to ask this and Im pretty sure this information is somewhere mentioned but I have a hard time finding it.

If I pick up a girl for an hour or a night what are the prices for the girls at help?

I know for example costa rica starts with 80 us dollar and then goes up.

The DR is more like 30 euro for the whole night.

I would love to see a faq with only prices of hotels and mp's etc.

It can be fun to read the stories but it is very time consuming and very often very little information can be extracted. And I have to book in a few days now so time is very important.

There for I ask this question.

How much can I expect to pay for a 25-30 old normal looking girl.

What are the prices of the chepaest hotels.

At this moment I haven't made reservacions for my plane ticket and I'm thinking that Thailand maybe is the better option.

I will be staying for more then a month so a budget is unfortunely a must for me.

Thanks very muchYes, you should go to Thailand. Don't waste your time on these big-assed nympho freaks in Brazil! I hear they're nothing but trouble anyway with their wanting you to fuck them in the ass and not wanting to stop until you cum. Don't even waste your time reading through all of the detailed reports that people spend so much time writing, it's all just for entertainment. Brazil is way overrated.

Oh, as for your question, I think 200reals is a generous contribution nowadays for a Help girl from what I've read. Not that I'm recommending you go to Brazil or anything.

Rodeo

Acenva
01-05-09, 18:24
I'm sorry to ask this and Im pretty sure this information is somewhere mentioned but I have a hard time finding it.

If I pick up a girl for an hour or a night what are the prices for the girls at help?

I know for example costa rica starts with 80 us dollar and then goes up.

The DR is more like 30 euro for the whole night.

I would love to see a faq with only prices of hotels and mp's etc.

It can be fun to read the stories but it is very time consuming and very often very little information can be extracted. And I have to book in a few days now so time is very important.

There for I ask this question.

How much can I expect to pay for a 25-30 old normal looking girl.

What are the prices of the chepaest hotels.

At this moment I haven't made reservacions for my plane ticket and I'm thinking that Thailand maybe is the better option.

I will be staying for more then a month so a budget is unfortunely a must for me.

Thanks very much

Please read bubbas guide which will give you all kinds of locations and pricing for the gdp's. Help prices for short time is 100R to 150R and TLN would be 200R to as much as 400 or 500R depends upon your bargining skills. Good luck!! For being there for a month I would recommend an apartment with a doorman. Just pace your self you will have fun.

Bernard22
01-06-09, 02:07
Please read bubbas guide which will give you all kinds of locations and pricing for the gdp's. Help prices for short time is 100R to 150R and TLN would be 200R to as much as 400 or 500R depends upon your bargining skills. Good luck!! For being there for a month I would recommend an apartment with a doorman. Just pace your self you will have fun.Thanks for the answer.

I think thailand is the better choice then for me there I can get a hotel for about 20 dollar a night and the p4p is also cheaper.

Also the flight is cheaper for me.

Brasil will have to wait untill I have a better budget.

Jan 156
01-07-09, 16:42
I think thailand is the better choice then for me there I can get a hotel for about 20 dollar a night and the p4p is also cheaper.

Also the flight is cheaper for me.

Brasil will have to wait untill I have a better budget.

Thailand is a whole different ball-game. It's more expensive first time you go. After that (except for the flight) it gets cheaper.

Thailand is among the most user-friendly of p4p around. Avoid drugs and you're ok. Any tuk-tuk takes you to the main areas and you can pick up cheap places to stay with minimal effort. Although BKK is a big city, most people only really need to know the triangle of between Nana Plaza, Patpong and maybe the Grand Wat (with stuff inbetween). In other words, its helluva user-friendly.

Rio is not. It's an enormous city where the major suburbs are big enough to make your feet ache, so orientation is a big deal. The games girls play are multi-level. It's so overpowering for most first timers that there's one major buying path, which is synonymous with Copacabana (a main suburb to the south of the city).

Whittle Copacabana down a bit more and you get Help disco pickup and a few brothels. For many, that's all they want. If you are short stay, that's all you have time for. Your first trip lets you know how much there is to learn,and it's a lot (a user-guide to BKK, by comparison, would fit on a postage stamp).

Most experienced mongers quickly tire of Help - although it's such an institution (like Patpong) that it's still a 'must see.' I rarely pay more than 15 dollars for sex, or 45 dollars for an overnight with TLC and GFE. I get a room (a nice one bedroom apartment close to the beach and p4p) for 20 dollars, but you will, I admit, pay more than that until you know the place quite well. If there's competition, I have to pay more.

Both destinations are amazing, for mongering and general tourism/photography. Thailand is nice to fly in and fly out of, especially if you are only there for a short time. Rio involves a lot more hassle, but most people would I think find it worth it. The main mongering difference is the variety of women. It can make the comparatively standard Thai p4p seem like the same old fast food . . .

Jan 156
01-07-09, 16:59
I know most guys arrive with enough bags to fill a taxi, but I'm guessing there must be one or two other weirdos who think along my lines and don't believe in stopping at baggage retrieval. This is for them.

There is an indescribable sense of freedom getting off the plane and just slinging a small bag over your shoulder and then going off hunting where you will. You're not at the mercy of flat-rental hawks cos you can recce the places before you choose. You feel part of Brasil much faster too. Brasilians have a curious easy-come, easy-go attitude to material possessions. Have less to lose, and you worry less about losing it! And if you fancy a side trip to BH or Petropolis, you're all set.

When I started travelling light, my main weight would, curiously enough, be toiletries. With cabin restrictions these days, it's good to know you can get almost anything you need when you get there.

Here's my 'buy on arrival list.' The main essentials come from any 24hr farmacia (I recommend the one on Prado Jnr, but by all means find one closer). Other stuff can wait till the day after you've settled in. All local in Copa (which is very well furnished with everything you need). I'd generally get a nice shirt in Rio Sul when I'm buying a SIM though, and a cheap watch and any top-ups on the socks/shirts front in Centro. There are two expensive items worth buying IMO. One is Mr Cat shoes. The other is a trendy pair of shorts or swimming trunks for the beach.

BUY ON ARRIVAL
shaving gel & razors
listerine mouthwash
soap
condoms - Preserv Xtra are good
(Olla also do a large, 55mm, but I haven't used these)
scissors
Polaramine (for mozzie itch 2 or 6mg)
Diasec (local version of loperamide for diarrhea)
Mazitrom azitromicina (antibiotic for colds or flu).
Emistin cream (also for mozzie itch)
washing up liquid (to wash your togs - or use shampoo)
gym membership
penknife for fruit
change of clothes
cheap watch
SIM card

Koolkid
01-07-09, 17:29
Thailand is a whole different ball-game. It's more expensive first time you go. After that (except for the flight) it gets cheaper.

Thailand is among the most user-friendly of p4p around. Avoid drugs and you're ok. Any tuk-tuk takes you to the main areas and you can pick up cheap places to stay with minimal effort. Although BKK is a big city, most people only really need to know the triangle of between Nana Plaza, Patpong and maybe the Grand Wat (with stuff inbetween). In other words, its helluva user-friendly.

Rio is not. It's an enormous city where the major suburbs are big enough to make your feet ache, so orientation is a big deal. The games girls play are multi-level. It's so overpowering for most first timers that there's one major buying path, which is synonymous with Copacabana (a main suburb to the south of the city).

Whittle Copacabana down a bit more and you get Help disco pickup and a few brothels. For many, that's all they want. If you are short stay, that's all you have time for. Your first trip lets you know how much there is to learn,and it's a lot (a user-guide to BKK, by comparison, would fit on a postage stamp).

Most experienced mongers quickly tire of Help - although it's such an institution (like Patpong) that it's still a 'must see.' I rarely pay more than 15 dollars for sex, or 45 dollars for an overnight with TLC and GFE. I get a room (a nice one bedroom apartment close to the beach and p4p) for 20 dollars, but you will, I admit, pay more than that until you know the place quite well. If there's competition, I have to pay more.

Both destinations are amazing, for mongering and general tourism/photography. Thailand is nice to fly in and fly out of, especially if you are only there for a short time. Rio involves a lot more hassle, but most people would I think find it worth it. The main mongering difference is the variety of women. It can make the comparatively standard Thai p4p seem like the same old fast food . . .Well said, after living in Thailand now for 9+ years I'm venturing to Rio for the 1st time in May. I know how to do everything on the cheap here.

But I know, Rio, is going to be whole different story. So I am spending the next few months intel gathering from this site so that I am abit clued up when I land there. But like you said I'm sure it will take afew trips before I get it right!

Java Man
01-07-09, 19:20
I rarely pay more than 15 dollars for sex, or 45 dollars for an overnight with TLC and GFE. I get a room (a nice one bedroom apartment close to the beach and p4p) for 20 dollars, but you will, I admit, pay more than that until you know the place quite well. If there's competition, I have to pay more.$15 sex at Villa Mimosa, but $45 overnight; $20 1 bedroom NICE apartment near the beach!?! Where?? Please share THAT info.

Jan 156
01-07-09, 19:43
$15 sex at Villa Mimosa, but $45 overnight; $20 1 bedroom NICE apartment near the beach!?! Where?? Please share THAT info.


I only use reals but have converted them for convenience in reply to a new poster to the Brasil forum.

The apartment I rent is just off Prado Junior. It's a private rent, and that rate is for a two month period, though it's been the same for several years.

The only exception was last year, when someone had offered my landlady silly money. I share her details with friends (including one or two mongers I've met from ISG and hit it off with) but don't post it on the board or PM it otherwise I'm not likely to get it myself! Plus I like to know who I'm introducing to her. There's some nice guys I've met who would I'm afraid blow it by their attitude (not bad attitude, just un-Brasilian attitude!)

But it's fairly typical of a local rent.

I posted some details of the furnishings etc on the other thread. There's no internet which suits me. If I use the a/c a lot I give her a bit more (some trust involved there, sorry Bubba). Otherwise the 45R a night includes electric and gas. Nicely but not extravagantly furnished - she owns it, so it's like someone's home. Separate kitchen dining area, shower and bathroom, nice bedroom, lovely balcony where I can see the beach or enjoy the sun.

The point is, the more you get to know Rio and the more you pick up the carioca lifestyle, the less things cost you.

TummySangs
01-07-09, 21:27
Does anyone if there are inexpensive bakeries or Creperies near the Marriott area in Rio? Also any good sea food places which will not break the bank near the Help Disco.

Thank you

Poucolouco
01-08-09, 02:02
Does anyone if there are inexpensive bakeries or Creperies near the Marriott area in Rio? Also any good sea food places which will not break the bank near the Help Disco. Thank you

Bakeries :
There is a bakery on Rua Domingos Ferriera, the street behind the Marriott.

2.) Cafeina - Copacabana
Rua Constante Ramos, 44

3.) The Bakers – Copacabana
Rua Santa Clara, 86


Crepes :

1.) Le Blé Noir
Rua Xavier da Silveira, 19

2.) Yonza Crepes
Rua Miguel Lemos, 21

3.) Bibi Crepes
Rua Miguelo Lemos, 31

4.) Bombom Mousse Cafe
Rua Raimundo Corrêa, 60

Seafood: Terraco Atlantico in front of Help has good seafood as do most of the restaurants on Avenida Atlantico.

Goga Fung
01-08-09, 02:14
Christopherd, thank you for the useful info.

Is basic/intermediate Spanish enough to get by in Brazil/Rio, or I better learn some Portugese?

Euro100
01-08-09, 02:41
I only use reals but have converted them for convenience in reply to a new poster to the Brasil forum.

The apartment I rent is just off Prado Junior. It's a private rent, and that rate is for a two month period, though it's been the same for several years.

The only exception was last year, when someone had offered my landlady silly money. I share her details with friends (including one or two mongers I've met from ISG and hit it off with) but don't post it on the board or PM it otherwise I'm not likely to get it myself! Plus I like to know who I'm introducing to her. There's some nice guys I've met who would I'm afraid blow it by their attitude (not bad attitude, just un-Brasilian attitude!)

But it's fairly typical of a local rent.

I posted some details of the furnishings etc on the other thread. There's no internet which suits me. If I use the a/c a lot I give her a bit more (some trust involved there, sorry Bubba). Otherwise the 45R a night includes electric and gas. Nicely but not extravagantly furnished - she owns it, so it's like someone's home. Separate kitchen dining area, shower and bathroom, nice bedroom, lovely balcony where I can see the beach or enjoy the sun.

The point is, the more you get to know Rio and the more you pick up the carioca lifestyle, the less things cost you.

I have been to the place Chris rents and can vouch for him telling the truth. It is not exactly luxury, but it is not a rat-hole either. It helps that it is a couple of blocks away from the beach.

Even in my two days of interacting with Chris I learned a lot that I had not known in more than 10 previous visits to Rio. I can honestly say he expanded my horizon. It was fun. Of course, in the end I decided that my tastes are a bit different from his, and I am not quite as bargain-conscious. And I really wish we would not have wasted all that money on our trip to that vastly overrated seafood joint :(. But still, it was great fun to hang with Chris.

Jan 156
01-08-09, 04:15
And I really wish we would not have wasted all that money on our trip to that vastly overrated seafood joint :(.
Yeah, it was a bit of an anticlimax - hope it gets deleted from the guides. But it was fun doing it in company, so thanks for that. I'd have been in a bad mood for a fortnight if I'd wasted all that time on my own! :D Have got a list of upmarket restaurants I fancy trying now that aren't quite so far away. Even so, the drive over the hills was quite good.

Eros74
01-08-09, 19:56
I should arrive at airport in Rio about 22:00, I read in Bubba Guide, after the 22:00 the Atm stop working, so how to get fresh reais from atm or change money ? In the guide it was referred tonly to atm in the city or also the ones in the airport ?
Thanks....

Poucolouco
01-08-09, 20:24
I should arrive at airport in Rio about 22:00, I read in Bubba Guide, after the 22:00 the Atm stop working, so how to get fresh reais from atm or change money ? In the guide it was referred tonly to atm in the city or also the ones in the airport ?
Thanks....

You are correct, ATMs in the city stop dispensing money after 22:00. However, the ATM at the airport might still be operating at that hour. If you are desperate to exchange for reals when you arrive, you could try exchanging a small amount (e.g. US$50) with one of the black market (dolar paralelo) vendors in the airport arrivals area. You should expect an exchange rate reasonably close to the official rate. At today's commercial rate of 2.3, the dolar paralelo would be about 2.2. These guys are easy to find, just ask one of the taxi dispatchers in the arrivals area. Use normal security precautions, watch your back.

Doc Simp
01-09-09, 04:59
It seems citibank machines are the exception to the rule on shutting down at night. I posted this in my Rio trip report, so find a citibank machine, they still work after 10pm.


I should arrive at airport in Rio about 22:00, I read in Bubba Guide, after the 22:00 the Atm stop working, so how to get fresh reais from atm or change money? In the guide it was referred tonly to atm in the city or also the ones in the airport?

Thanks

JohnnyBraz
01-09-09, 06:44
I should arrive at airport in Rio about 22:00, I read in Bubba Guide, after the 22:00 the Atm stop working, so how to get fresh reais from atm or change money ? In the guide it was referred tonly to atm in the city or also the ones in the airport ?

Thanks....Well you can go to help and change us dollars or euro's. Other than that all major hotels along copacabana will change euro's or us dollars.

Abzsafado
01-09-09, 16:32
You are correct, ATMs in the city stop dispensing money after 22:00. However, the ATM at the airport might still be operating at that hour. If you are desperate to exchange for reals when you arrive, you could try exchanging a small amount (e.g. US$50) with one of the black market (dolar paralelo) vendors in the airport arrivals area. You should expect an exchange rate reasonably close to the official rate. At today's commercial rate of 2.3, the dolar paralelo would be about 2.2. These guys are easy to find, just ask one of the taxi dispatchers in the arrivals area. Use normal security precautions, watch your back.

This is not 100% right, certain ATM's eg the one in the chemist shop across from Barbarellas work 24/7 but unfortunately only give you about R$100 at a cost of 6%, I may be wrong about the exact amount and % but I know I have been there at 4am and thought "Shit is that all I am getting". Almost gives you a putas perspective. However it is enough for a taxi and a few beers. Any GDP worth the effort won't want paying up front anyway and you are guaranteed an all nighter if she has to wait until the banks open.
If you need to pay for a taxi into town from the airport pay by credit card in the arrivals hall. Not cheap but safe and fast.

ChicoBarca
01-09-09, 16:48
I should arrive at airport in Rio about 22:00, I read in Bubba Guide, after the 22:00 the Atm stop working, so how to get fresh reais from atm or change money ? In the guide it was referred tonly to atm in the city or also the ones in the airport ?

Thanks....Hi Lukasek,

For changing money late there are a few 24/7 ATM's. I recommend the City Bank ATM's. I frequently use the one in Visconde Do Piraja oposite of the park Nuestra senhora de paz.

Chico

Eros74
01-09-09, 17:15
Thanks all...Yes now I remember Bubba wrote at Help they change money with a good rate ( I have the reason to go there 1 minute later I arrive LOL ) and I did not think about hotels....I am packing my clothes and I simply cannot wait to be back to Brazil...

Sprite13
01-10-09, 05:48
Christopherd, thank you for the useful info.

Is basic/intermediate Spanish enough to get by in Brazil/Rio, or I better learn some Portugese?Let me ask you this:

I want to visit the US, is basic or intermediate French enough to get by in the US?

Seriously, Brasilians may understand you but when they speak in Portuguese, the majority of it will fly over your head because even tough in writting, Portuguese and Spanish are very similar, in pronunciation, they are very different because of the different portuguese sounds. So while basic or intermediate Spanish may help you a bit to get by, it wont be enough to truly enjoy Brasil. For that, it will require Portuguese, Brasilian Portuguese that is.

Good luck.

Bravo
01-12-09, 00:17
What is Rede Orla Video? I am connecting my laptop and i see that as a wireless option. THX

Bravo
01-13-09, 20:37
Cable tv. The lady who rented my apartment, didnt tell me until after i had paid that the place does not have cable tv. I told her that it was important that she have it installed. Is it true that you have to sign a 12 month contract to have cable put in? You cant just have it installed for a couple of months?

Poucolouco
01-13-09, 22:06
Cable tv. The lady who rented my apartment, didnt tell me until after i had paid that the place does not have cable tv. I told her that it was important that she have it installed. Is it true that you have to sign a 12 month contract to have cable put in? You cant just have it installed for a couple of months?

First, check with your condominium to see what cable companies service your building. From my experience with both TVA and NET, you can tell the cable company that you only want it for a short period, say 2 months. They will tell you it's no problem you just have to call them when you want to terminate.

Then when you get ready to cancel, getting it terminated is like pulling teeth. You call them and they listen to your story and then they keep transfering you to another person until you lose your patience and hang up. It usually takes several phone calls to accomplish this. Then they will have to make an appointment for a technician to come to your place and pick up the cable converter. You must get a receipt for the converter because they will try to bill you for it later. Neither TVA nor NET has an office where you can drop off the converter. The phone company Telemar used to have an alliance with TVA and you could drop off the converter at a Telemar store. I'm not sure if this can still be accomplished. As an alternative, you might consider some sort of financial arrangement with your landlady to terminate the cable agreement when you depart.

Abzsafado
01-13-09, 22:16
What is Rede Orla Video? I am connecting my laptop and i see that as a wireless option. THX

That might be the free wireless available on the beachfront. I cannot remember the exact name of it.

Chaudlefredo
01-14-09, 10:39
Happy New Year to you all, and a link to a very sexy and funny Brazilian advertisment for cerveja antartica:

http://www.tatuagemdaboa.com.br/

Wait a little bit until the lady totaly appears and then you have to fill your name, a friend's name or your nickname, don't have to give your adress, and push "visualizar". And laugh!

Patata Chips
01-16-09, 14:21
Some one have any info about the site?

Still not working!

Java Man
01-16-09, 21:49
Some one have any info about the site?

Still not working!Checkout my post #1919 in the Sao Paulo thread. Use the search function, newbie, it's been discussed on a couple of threads.

Sprite13
01-17-09, 07:59
This is funny!!!!Thanks for posting it!!!:D


Happy New Year to you all, and a link to a very sexy and funny Brazilian advertisment for cerveja antartica:

http://www.tatuagemdaboa.com.br/

Wait a little bit until the lady totaly appears and then you have to fill your name, a friend's name or your nickname, don't have to give your adress, and push "visualizar". And laugh!

Louie Cifre
01-17-09, 22:04
Can anyone tell me how to get Viagra or Cialis in Rio?

Do I need prescription?

Or are there other options?

LC

ChicoBarca
01-18-09, 18:55
Can anyone tell me how to get Viagra or Cialis in Rio?

Do I need prescription?

Or are there other options?

LCHi Louie,

Just go to a farmacy and ask for it. No problem. It also happends that they have some special offer. Ask if they have.

Chicobarca

Jake993
01-18-09, 20:03
Can anyone tell me how to get Viagra or Cialis in Rio?

Do I need prescription?

Or are there other options?

LCNo perscription needed. Just go to the pharmacy and tell the pharmacist what you want. You can also buy ZITHROMYCINE over the counter (Z-Pak in America). It is called Azithromycin. It's the greatest thing for unexpected sinus infections. I alwasy pick a few up in Brazil and keep them in my shaving bag for the unexpected travel related cold.

Jake993
01-18-09, 20:06
I finally took a few minutes and figured out how to use a proxy server to get to gpguia.net fro America. As many of you know the site has been bloakc from access by servers based in America. If anyone needs help getting this done just send me a PM and I'll be happy to share my experience and get you set up.

Albert Punter
01-19-09, 04:47
GP Guia site seems now accessible from outside of Brazil, at least from some areas.
It is a few days I am accessing it from different countries.


Some one have any info about the site?

Still not working!

BionicMan
01-19-09, 22:15
I finally took a few minutes and figured out how to use a proxy server to get to gpguia.net fro America. As many of you know the site has been bloakc from access by servers based in America. If anyone needs help getting this done just send me a PM and I'll be happy to share my experience and get you set up.

Does not seem to work from Europe either...

Madd Love
01-19-09, 22:17
Written by Mylena Fiori
Wednesday, 14 January 2009

According to a survey by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), Brazil is the country that suffered the least with the world economic crisis. According to the document, the Brazilian economy saw a reduction of only 2.9 points and its activity was rated as being "in decline."

The survey, based on figures pertaining to November last year, points to a "sharp slowdown" in the European Union, Asia, the United States and large emerging economies. The survey includes the 30 OECD member countries and five other important economies that are not part of the group, among them the so-called BRIC countries - Brazil, Russia, India and China.

The OECD index, which consists of an average of different economic indicators, revolves around 100. The OECD rates as expanding economies those that have rising indexes and above 100.

Economies with indexes above 100, but showing a trend of decreasing activity, are considered to be in decline. Countries with indicators below 100, but rising, are rated as in recovery. In turn, those with indexes below 100 and retracting economies are defined as in slowdown.

Brazil is the only country that maintained a rating above 100 throughout the second half of 2008. In November, the OECD index stood at 101.2 points, as against 102.3 in October, 103.2 in September, 103.9 in August and 104.1 in July.

Russia was the worst performing country in November. At 89.8 points, its index was slightly higher than China's, but represents a decrease of 13.8 points in comparison with the same period of last year.

As was the case in nearly every country, the slowdown has intensified since July. In China, the index was 88.5 - 12.9 points below the average of economic indicators as of November 2007. In India, the slowdown in November stood at 7.6 points compared with the same period of the previous year.

All of the large world economies also recorded "sharp slowdown" rates, with indexes below 100 since July.

The world's largest economy, the United States recorded an index of 92.2 points in November, representing reduction of 8.7 points compared with November 2007.

In Japan, which has the world's second highest Gross Domestic Product (GDP), the decrease was of 5.5 points in comparison with the same period of the previous year, and the index in November was 93.7 points. In Germany, the third in the global ranking, the OECD index stood at 91.6 points - a decrease of 10.7 points.

The outlook was not too good in the Eurozone countries. The reduction compared with November 2007 stood at 7.6 points, with an index of 94.3 points. Considering the five leading Asian economies (China, India, Japan, Indonesia and Korea), economic activity decreased by 9.5 points, earning an index of 91.6 points.

In turn, the OECD member countries recorded a slowdown of 7.3 points in comparison with November 2007, having recorded a combined index of 93.8 points.

Export Record

The Brazilian state-controlled oil and gas multinational Petrobras attained record high exports of oil produced in Brazil in December. Sales during the month totaled 19.2 million barrels of oil, i.e., an average of 620,000 barrels a day, 46,000 more than the previous record high, of 574,000 barrels a day, attained in October 2008.

According to the company, 63% of exports were destined to the United States. Another 21.4% went to Europe, 5.4% to South America, 5% to Asia and 5% to the Caribbean.

Exports in December generated revenues of US$ 574 million, to be collected in January and February this year.

Exec Talent
01-19-09, 23:16
Written by Mylena Fiori
Wednesday, 14 January 2009

According to a survey by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), Brazil is the country that suffered the least with the world economic crisis.
Over the last two years many people have asked me why I decided to invest in Brazil of all places. One reason is that Brazil does not have ready (or affordable) credit for houses, apartments, cars or credit cards.

With the current (not that current - December 07) economic crisis it is as if there were many earthquakes around the world of various magnitudes but none in Brazil. Brazil will have some damage as the quakes spread out from the epicenters but nothing direct.

Where Brazil will suffer is in exports (other than oil) which is why I said from a macroeconomic perspective the dollar had to rise making Brazil's goods cheaper in the US.

The one thing that Brazil must get a handle on and soon is domestic inflation. Prices here make no sense whatsoever. The price for the same item varies radically from store to store and even radically at the same store from week to week. If inflation is not gotten under control, pretty soon the guy on the street is going to get squeezed more than they are already.

This is compounded by current labor laws which provide a monthly not hourly minimum wage. My understanding is that an employer can hire someone part-time but must pay them full-time based upon the monthly minimum wage.

Another observation about Rio in particular is that I estimate about 10% of the working age male population is somehow employed in security whether police or private. The Suco stands even have security.

Bubba Boy
01-19-09, 23:21
Brazil will be affected and in my opinion extremely hard for all of the reasons exec listed below. IE Inefficient economy, high inflation, nothing makes senses here as far as business logic goes etc. I think the cycle was the US was affected first, then Europe and then the emerging markets. I am thinking the emerging markets are going to get hit really hard, it is just that they are last into the cycle.

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Brazilian Stocks Decline on Record Job Losses; Bolsa Advances


By Paulo Winterstein and William Freebairn

Jan. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Brazilian stocks fell for the first time in three days after a government report showed the biggest monthly job losses on record, signaling the slowdown in Latin America’s largest economy is worsening.

Lojas Renner SA, Brazil’s biggest clothing retailer, slid more than 5 percent after the economy lost 654,946 government- registered jobs in December. Vivo Participacoes SA, the largest mobile-phone company, fell the most in the Bovespa after JPMorgan Chase & Co. said margins may be hurt by the slowdown. Banco do Brasil SA paced gains for banks after Merrill Lynch & Co. upgraded the stock to “buy.”

“We’re focusing on macro numbers, which should continue to be bad,” said Jose Alberto Baltieri, who helps manage about $238 million in assets at BES Ativos Financeiros in Sao Paulo. Earnings reports for “the fourth quarter should be an inflection point as analysts adjust their earnings projections for this year, which will be a little more negative.”

The Bovespa dropped 1.3 percent to 38,828.32, paring its gain this year to 3.4 percent. Chile’s Ipsa advanced 0.1 percent, while Mexico’s Bolsa rose 0.3 percent. The MSCI Emerging Markets index declined 0.7 percent. U.S. markets were shut today for the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday.

The December employment report became the latest government data to shed light on the depth of the slowdown. The Labor Ministry reported that Brazil lost the most government- registered jobs since the series began in 1999.

Rate Cut Outlook

Brazil’s local-currency bond yields slid to their lowest in 15 months and the real slipped on growing expectations the central bank may cut its benchmark lending rate by as much as a full percentage point this week as the economic slowdown worsens. A majority of economists expects the central bank to cut rates to 13 percent this week from a two-year high of 13.75 percent.

A 75-basis-point cut in the Selic won’t cause equities to rebound as investors still see a “very difficult” first half, said Sergio Goldman, head of research at BullTick Capital Markets.

Investors “need to see some degree of stability in global markets as well as a clearer picture on the actual degree of activity deceleration Brazil’s economy will experiment” before they return to Brazilian equities, Goldman wrote. “Our sentiment is that these two conditions will not be in place before the middle of” the second quarter of this year, when gross domestic product growth in the first quarter is released, he wrote.

Economic expansion will slow by more than half to 2 percent this year, according to a median forecast in a central bank survey published today.

Global Slowdown

The euro-area economy will shrink 1.9 percent this year, the first time since the currency was introduced a decade ago, the European Commission said. The European Central Bank last month predicted a 0.5 percent contraction for 2009.

Renner slid 5.8 percent to 16.80 reais.

Metalurgica Gerdau SA, which makes long steel for the construction industry, fell 1.6 percent to 22.50 reais. Operating unit Gerdau SA slid 1.6 percent to 16.80 reais.

Brazilian steelmakers probably won’t benefit from a pickup in steel distributors’ sales until the second quarter because of high stockpiles, Ativa Corretora said today in a note.

Telephone Companies

Vivo led declines in phone companies, slumping 6.1 percent to 31.65 reais.

“We maintain our cautious view on Brazilian mobile, despite strong subscriber growth prospects,” JPMorgan analysts led by Andre Baggio wrote in a note to clients. “The economic slowdown in 2009, coupled with higher foreign exchange, should hit mobile margins and growth.”

Telemar Norte Leste SA, which began offering mobile service in Sao Paulo state last year, declined 2.5 percent to 45.91 reais. Tim Participacoes SA, the third-biggest carrier, dropped 3.2 percent to 3.01 reais.

Banco do Brasil gained 0.3 percent to 14.44 reais. Merrill said the risk of more acquisitions ebbed after the bank bought regional lender Banco Nossa Caixa SA and acquired a 50 percent stake in Banco Votorantim SA, while concerns on possible political interference have also been reduced. Banco Itau Holding Financeira SA, which surpassed Banco do Brasil as Latin America’s biggest bank after agreeing to buy Uniao de Bancos Brasileiros SA, rose 1.5 percent to 24.30 reais. Unibanco rose 0.8 percent.

Mexican stocks advanced, led by retailers and construction companies, on bets a government spending plan may boost the economy.

Empresas Gains

Empresas ICA SAB, Mexico’s largest construction company, gained for a fifth day, advancing 0.7 percent to 24.22 pesos.

“It’s one of the few vehicles to bet on a sector that may be a winner this year,” said Carlos A. Gonzalez, analyst at IXE Grupo Financiero in Mexico City.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon announced plans on Jan. 7 for a record 570 billion pesos of public and private investment in construction this year.

Controladora Comercial Mexicana SAB, the third-largest Mexican supermarket chain, advanced 2.9 percent to 3.22 pesos after Excelsior newspaper reported it may announce a deal today with banks giving it more time to pay its debts.

Grupo Famsa SAB, a retailer with stores in the U.S. and Mexico, rose 4.6 percent to 8.02 pesos.

In other Latin America markets, Argentina’s Merval and Peru’s Lima General indexes gained 1 percent each and Colombia’s IGBC climbed 0.7 percent.

To contact the reporter on this story: Paulo Winterstein in Sao Paulo at pwinterstein@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: January 19, 2009 17:02 EST

Ken_Apples
01-20-09, 01:25
Another observation about Rio in particular is that I estimate about 10% of the working age male population is somehow employed in security whether police or private. The Suco stands even have security.
This is so sad, sad, sad. Even that I love Brazil, and have alot of Brazilian friends, I just can't shake of the feeling that the country is going in the wrong direction.

Bubba's report below is also a sign that more violence and crimes will occur, as people and families can't survive on thin air and tapwater.

I was thinking about relocating to Brazil a couple of years ago, but changed my mind, partly because crime and inflation.

Laiter (until recently) thinking about Panama city as a good place to live - However, a crimewave is flooding Panama and everyday streetcrime is up on a level unseen before in the "safe haven Panama", heck even Costa Rica - "The perfect paradise for retirement" is affected by crimes in a scale not seen before.

So where does this leave us? I'm not sure, Guess nowbody knows. The only thing that's sure is that it's uncertain times.

Probably will return to Asia during last quarter of 2009, waiting to find out what ways the winds are blowing.

Just my 5 cents, Ken Apples

Madd Love
01-20-09, 14:22
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, the president of Brazil, says that he would like to talk with the new American president, Barack Obama, before the "government machine" gets hold of him. Lula also expects that the US leader "would change his vision on Latinamerica and acknowledge the advance of regional democracy."

Lula da Silva made the statements during a meeting with his counterpart Hugo Chavez in the Venezuelan province of Zulia where he signed trade agreements and anticipated the Brazilian Senate would soon approve the incorporation of Venezuela to Mercosur.

"I haven't had a chance to talk with Obama and undoubtedly we must have a discussion before the government machine gets hold of him," said Lula. And looking to President Chavez he added "and you know Hugo that these machines are very powerful and if we don't fight against them they devour us in a short time and then we don't do what we should have done."

"These machines are capable of making us into something different to that what we were thinking about when we took office," underlined the Brazilian leader.

"Let's hope Obama is enlightened by God and gives him the sufficient intelligence and sensitivity to realize he must solve this crisis as soon as possible, that he can't let countries of Latinamerica and the Caribbean which depend exclusively on exports to the US, to suffer because of the crisis."

Lula also urged that the developed world "finds a quick solution before the crisis could again plunge the developing world into stagnation as happened in the eighties and nineties with the foreign debt crisis".

The Brazilian president further on anticipated that the Senate of his country would be approving at the latest in March, Venezuela's incorporation as full member of Mercosur.

"This is the will of Mercosur and Venezuela", he underlined.

"Many times we celebrate international agreements and the legislative process takes longer than we would like," he admitted.

President Chavez said the announcement was "wonderful news and so will be the results." He pointed out that with Venezuela inside Mercosur, bilateral trade with Brazil would certainly increase from its current US$ 6 billion annually.

Mercosur in 2006 was accepted as Mercosur member, but ratification from the Brazilian and Paraguayan congresses is pending. Uruguay and Argentina

Sprite13
01-21-09, 02:56
Quick question guys:

My Canadian passport expires in April and my 5 year Brasil visa is good until August 2010. For my trip next month, Will I have to apply for a new Brasil visa or can I bring the old passport with the visa along the new passport?

Thanks.

Poucolouco
01-21-09, 03:04
Quick question guys:

My Canadian passport expires in April and my 5 year Brasil visa is good until August 2010. For my trip next month, Will I have to apply for a new Brasil visa or can I bring the old passport with the visa along the new passport?

Thanks.

Happens all the time. You should carry both passports. The visa is still valid.

The Watcher
01-21-09, 04:01
Quick question guys:

My Canadian passport expires in April and my 5 year Brasil visa is good until August 2010. For my trip next month, Will I have to apply for a new Brasil visa or can I bring the old passport with the visa along the new passport?

Thanks.


I can confirm the advice of Poucolouco. I have entered Brasil on two occasions when I carried two passports - one was my expired passport containing a current Brasil visa and the other was my current passport. I also know two friends who have entered Brasil on the same circumstances.

Poucolouco
01-21-09, 04:08
Happens all the time. You should carry both passports. The visa is still valid.

Here is the official word from the Brasilian Consulate in Chicago.

http://www.brazilconsulatechicago.org/en-5-0-0.html?faq=18

Questner
01-21-09, 06:12
Question: Plan to travel to Rio from NYC on Canadian passport without visa and enter BR on a second passport of one of the countries on the list that requires no tourist visa. BR embassy said it's OK but I want to double check. Any suggestions?

Poucolouco
01-21-09, 20:32
Question: Plan to travel to Rio from NYC on Canadian passport without visa and enter BR on a second passport of one of the countries on the list that requires no tourist visa. BR embassy said it's OK but I want to double check. Any suggestions?

This seems logical and legal but the Brasilian Policia Federal are not always logical. They have individual authority to delay or deny entry based on suspicion. Why depart NYC on the Canadian passport? The question arises, does your third country passport have entry and exit stamps for legally being in the United States? If so, it should be no problem because you are travelling under the permission of that third country. You may just have to take one for the team on this situation and tell us how it worked.

George90
01-21-09, 22:23
Question: Plan to travel to Rio from NYC on Canadian passport without visa and enter BR on a second passport of one of the countries on the list that requires no tourist visa. BR embassy said it's OK but I want to double check. Any suggestions?

I have done this.

When checking in for the flight to Brazil, you will need to show the passport of the country for which the tourist visa is waived. Otherwise they won't check you in. Upon arrival in Brazil, show that passport. They will stamp it. Same thing upon departure. When arriving in the US show your Canadian passport.

The only sticking point is that so few tourists from countries for which the visa is waived enter Brazil from the US, that the clerks don't know those countries very well. They might tell you that you need a visa or go look for their supervisor to get confirmation. I suggest you print out the page from the Brazilian embassy that lists all the countries for which the tourist visa is waived and bring it with you to show anyone who isn't sure.

For anyone's information, most of the EU countries are waived for the tourist visa. Several Caribbean countries are waived as well.

Note that there are several countries for which you must have proof of a yellow fever vaccination if you have visited any of those countries in the past 3 months. Colombia is one of those countries. Most of the rest are in Africa.

George90
01-21-09, 22:27
The question arises, does your third country passport have entry and exit stamps for legally being in the United States?

This is irrelevant. Your Canadian passport allows you entry to the US because Canada is one of the waived countries for the US tourist visa.

Don't even mention your other passport to the US officials. That will just give them ammunition for questions that will make a very simple entry more complicated.

BionicMan
01-21-09, 22:48
Question: Plan to travel to Rio from NYC on Canadian passport without visa and enter BR on a second passport of one of the countries on the list that requires no tourist visa. BR embassy said it's OK but I want to double check. Any suggestions?
If Brazil requires a visa for canadian passport holder you might be denied baording at check in because the airline is responsible for the correct entry documents of the passenger. No matter what passport you present on arrival in Brazil. They might get suspicious and you woul dnot have an airline in the U.S. territory getting suspicious about a passenger. There is a fine of US$5,000 per passenger on account of the airline and immediate return on the first flight back to origin (ie same plane) on airline expenses/account (and surely you be made liable)

Poucolouco
01-21-09, 23:06
This is irrelevant. Your Canadian passport allows you entry to the US because Canada is one of the waived countries for the US tourist visa.

Don't even mention your other passport to the US officials. That will just give them ammunition for questions that will make a very simple entry more complicated.

This is understood. The question was not with regard to entering the US. It was related to entering Brasil using the third country passport arriving on a flight from the US.

George90
01-22-09, 01:59
This is understood. The question was not with regard to entering the US. It was related to entering Brasil using the third country passport arriving on a flight from the US.

My mistake then. I read and understood your statement to be that the third country passport needed to have entry and exit stamps for legally being in the US.

Poucolouco
01-22-09, 02:45
My mistake then. I read and understood your statement to be that the third country passport needed to have entry and exit stamps for legally being in the US.

No problem George, perhaps my post was not clear. ;) I hope we have provided useful information for Questner to consider.

Eros74
01-22-09, 17:10
Thinking how every day you notice more turists to arrive, so what we can expect after the carnival, let's say in March ?

Cheaper prices and much more girls than turist with more or less the same weather or what ?

Prosal
01-22-09, 18:42
Rio in March ?
On a cultural note, March 1st is Rio's birthday - "Aniversario da Cidade".

There's usually lots of festivities all around town, notably a huge concert (with most major Bossa Nova artists) on the beach.

An event much cooler than Carnaval IMHO.

Jan 156
01-22-09, 22:23
On a cultural note, March 1st is Rio's birthday - "Aniversario da Cidade".

There's lots of festivities all around town, notably a huge concert (with most major Bossa Nova artists) on the beach.

An event much cooler than Carnaval IMHO.

Thanks for the info. Not sure about cooler than Carnaval though. Bossa Nova is probably samba in denial ;)

Redcloud
01-22-09, 23:32
Keep YOUR EYES OPEN!

Article from today.


Rio DE JANEIRO (AFP) — A British couple walking through Rio de Janeiro's famous Ipanema beachside district are recovering after being stabbed in an attempted robbery Thursday, according to media reports.

Philip and Alicia Sills, aged 61 and 49, were attacked by a knife-wielding assailant when they tried to fight back.

Philip Sills was wounded in the chest while his wife was injured on her left hand, the G1 news website said.

It was the second reported assault on foreign tourists in Rio within a week.

On January 14, a group of Italians was stopped near Copacabana beach by three robbers with knives who stole their cameras, money and credit cards.

Rio has a well-earned reputation for rampant street crime.

Embassies and authorities advise victims of armed robberies in Brazil to offer no resistance. Assailants often do not hesitate to use their weapons.

Kozak
01-23-09, 00:19
Hi All,

Not new to to boards but wanted to ask a few questions about rio.

1) is there a place that has ladies on site a la Blackbeards in DR.

2) Anyone have correct names for Help and 4x4 so i can see thir websites.

3) Any particular time that is better to go (high season vs. low season).

I will try and go thought the reports of destinctions and try and peice together som info. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Jazzy Daddy
01-23-09, 01:42
Bossa Nova is probably samba in denial ;-)

Actually in Bossa Nova (new beat) the stress is primarily heard on the Upbeat of the tempo. As in "And 1 And 2 And 3 etc." Whereas in Samba the stress is primarly heard on the Downbeat as in "1 and 2 and 3 etc." The melody and rhythm is more syncopated than samba and this is why it was so easily adopted by jazz giants like Stan Getz...

Jan 156
01-23-09, 03:24
Actually in Bossa Nova (new beat) the stress is primarily heard on the Upbeat of the tempo. As in "And 1 And 2 And 3 etc." Whereas in Samba the stress is primarly heard on the Downbeat as in "1 and 2 and 3 etc." The melody and rhythm is more syncopated than samba and this is why it was so easily adopted by jazz giants like Stan Getz...

Well, yes, exactly like I said, Samba in denial. A white man's version that doesn't go faster than he can count ;) ;)

But historically it's just slowed down samba. Cos folks like you and me look a bit naff trying to dance as fast as black folk.

(I think Jazzy's maybe showing his salsa background with all this talk of 1,2,3, so to continue the comparison, isn't Cuban Salsa - "And 1 And 2" - the one that looks like you've drunk too many to dance LA style??)

Given the violence with which carioca bambas thrust their hips, maybe bossa nova is just the 'low injury' version haha . . .

The excellent biography I'm reading just now and which I'd recommend - 'Samba' by Alma Guillermoprieto - is the story of a gringo (well, a Mexican) who joined a samba school in a favela and got shot haha - no, she got involved with the school. She talks of samba as a 'two-by-four beat' which is maybe an easy way to think of it . . .


Be very careful talking music when Jazzy's about - he knows his stuff!!

Jazzy Daddy
01-23-09, 04:40
[QUOTE=Christopherd] so to continue the comparison, isn't Cuban Salsa - "And 1 And 2" - the one that looks like you've drunk too many to dance LA style??)

Nope! Eu estou contando os dias até eu chegar.

Seu amigo...

Jan 156
01-23-09, 04:58
[QUOTE=Christopherd]
Nope! Eu estou contando os dias até eu chegar.
Seu amigo...
Surety you mean 'eu chego', amigo. ;)

Jazzy Daddy
01-23-09, 21:13
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]
Surety you mean 'eu chego', amigo. ;)

Surely you mean "Surely"

Eros74
01-24-09, 17:47
Thinking that a good way to escape the carnival, I am not interested to see it and to get 4x higher prices for maybe worst service, could be to go to take a look to Buenos Aires, actually I see there are direct flight from Rio and from Porto Alegre too, much cheaper from PA, so someone that was in both places, could tell me soething more ?

So far, I am looking for nice white or tanned skin girls with not fat ass and I should find more in BsAs than in Rio.

What about the prices right now in BsAs for the pro and about the sex scene ?

I know, I am gonna to read right not Argentina Private, but so far as I am in net cafe, I do not have all the time, I could have if I was at my hometown.

Thanks in advance for any suggests...

Eros74
01-24-09, 19:30
....which are the brazilian aircompany that has a web page in english too, just to check if I get cheaper price if I buy the ticket by myself ?

For example right now looking for GO web page, but no abel to find it :(

El Greco
01-24-09, 20:31
....which are the brazilian aircompany that has a web page in english too, just to check if I get cheaper price if I buy the ticket by myself ?

For example right now looking for GO web page, but no abel to find it :(


www.voegol.com.br

Login at the "OTHER COUNTRIES" option. they accept foreign AMEX cards.

www.tam.com.br

Those two are the main ones.

Plenty of options in B's A's but not Termas there.

Main reasonably priced places are Cafe Orleans, The triangle bars and New Port. Asking price 300pesos negotiable.

Blacks and Madahos twice as much.

Privados average price 100-150pesos for the hour.

El Greco
01-24-09, 20:52
Hi All,

Not new to to boards but wanted to ask a few questions about rio.

1) is there a place that has ladies on site a la Blackbeards in DR.

2) Anyone have correct names for Help and 4x4 so i can see thir websites.

3) Any particular time that is better to go (high season vs. low season).

I will try and go thought the reports of destinctions and try and peice together som info. Any information would be greatly appreciated.


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2191&page=6&pp=15

Read the above and you are done with RIO

Eros74
01-24-09, 21:13
El greco, thanks so much, I always put gol on google and found nothing....

It seems to me a bit cheaper BsAs than Rio, even if I have no idea about the attitude of brazilian and argentinian girls; which one are the most friendly and-or most passionate ?

p.s. better to stay in microcenter or recoleta ? How far are one each other exactly ?

Thanks....

Jan 156
01-24-09, 23:06
Thinking that a good way to escape the carnival, I am not interested to see it and to get 4x higher prices for maybe worst service, could be to go to take a look to Buenos Aires, actually I see there are direct flight from Rio and from Porto Alegre too, much cheaper from PA, so someone that was in both places, could tell me soething more ?

So far, I am looking for nice white or tanned skin girls with not fat ass and I should find more in BsAs than in Rio.

p.s. better to stay in microcenter or recoleta ?


BA is very restful after RJ. Recoleta is where I stayed last time and recommend it as a nice place to base yourself. Most stuff is walking distance. You'll find classic white skinned girls of great beauty and quite sophisticated (at a price) or there's always cheap and cheerful the other direction round the station. Nice nightlife near Recoleta, bars, social scene, world's best steaks. Getting there, fly by all means, but it's interesting if you do overland from Porto Alegre. Quality bus to Uruguay, check out the local talent and history, then the ferry across to BA. (maybe not your thing, but if you want non-touristy top-notch tango away from the crowds, PM me)

Eros74
01-25-09, 00:43
Thanks Christopherd, I wrote PM or if I answer you I got off topic as far we are in Brazil ;)

Brazil Specialist
01-25-09, 02:11
Question: Plan to travel to Rio from NYC on Canadian passport without visa and enter BR on a second passport of one of the countries on the list that requires no tourist visa. BR embassy said it's OK but I want to double check. Any suggestions?

Did not quite understand

But if you plan to embark with one passport and arrive with a different passport, you might be in trouble. Don't these guys have passenger lists? John Doe from Canada suddenly becomes John Doe from France? Would they not find out that there was no John Doe from France on any of the passenger lists?

Bubba Boy
01-25-09, 02:17
Question: Plan to travel to Rio from NYC on Canadian passport without visa and enter BR on a second passport of one of the countries on the list that requires no tourist visa. BR embassy said it's OK but I want to double check. Any suggestions?

This is not a problem, I do this quite frequently. IE Leave 1 country on 1 passport and enter Brazil on another. For the same reason you want to, my second passport requires no visa.

Brazil Specialist
01-25-09, 02:18
Hi All,

Not new to to boards but wanted to ask a few questions about rio.

1) is there a place that has ladies on site a la Blackbeards in DR.

would be easier if you explained what Blackbeards is.

There are internet agencies like www.karlamodels.net with girls photos. there are sites with free-lancers like www.hotside.com.br and dozens more

Unfortunately lots of sites are fraudulent: either the photos are stolen from model sites and the girl does not look like the one on the photo. Or too much photoshop. karlamodels.net is pretty honest, hotside tends to have fairly honest photos too, I believe.


2) Anyone have correct names for Help and 4x4 so i can see thir websites.

whatever website they might have, they are of no relevance, nobody checks these sites. You will not be able to pick girls from these sites.


3) Any particular time that is better to go (high season vs. low season).

that is your taste. If you can get vacation in low season, and if you like low prices and little competition for the girls, come low season.


I will try and go thought the reports of destinctions and try and peice together som info. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

I recommend Bwana Dik's Rio guide. Not sure where to get it outside of another pay site I am member of. Very good guide

I think there is a Bubba guide but I dont know it well.

Kozak
01-25-09, 02:57
Brazil Specialist,

Thanks for the info as for Blackbeard it is a resort that has the chics onsite so you can relax and not have to really go out alot.

As for the websites was looking more for adresses so that if i book a hotel so i am close to these places walking wise or taxi wise.

Vittu
01-25-09, 03:16
There is nothing illegal about using two passports. I had a friend who was a correspondent in South Africa. Because South African stamps on a passport tainted it -- the officials were perfectly willing to stamp separate pieces of papers that were attached to the passport -- he always arrived in a black African vountry with a clean passport.
He said that at Johannesburg's an iimmigation official once went through his passport several times, shook his head and said, "You are a very interesting man. You always leave but never arrive."
My friend said that during his years in Africa he noticed that few officials knew how to read travel documents.

Jan 156
01-25-09, 03:44
I recommend Bwana Dik's Rio guide. Not sure where to get it outside of another pay site I am member of. Very good guide

I think there is a Bubba guide but I dont know it well.

just Google for Bwana Dik and you'll get a nicely laid out pdf version. It's a great intro, very similar IMO to Bubba's although Bubba's is much bigger I think.

Both are rather high-end, and both rather orientated towards the US newbie monger IMO, but Rio is so confusing to a newcomer that the straightforward style is probably what's needed. I certainly found both very useful.

Both guides are a quickstart. It's a lot easier to get interested enough to RTFF after you've been once and realise the scale of the task ;)

Bubba and Bwana Dik's tastes are not mine however, useful as they are. I would rather recommend Sperto's, "How to get dirty in Rio," but unfortunately it hasn't been published yet ;)

Bubba's is more up to date from memory I think. BD's is 2006. Plus he makes really f-wit comments like, (discussing VM), "Go with a group and/or book the services of a guide." I hereby offer his subscribers my srevices, payment to be made in the form of a one hour session with a bunda of my choice at 4x4 on the way :D

The only p4p place to go in a group is a top terma.

btw congrats to all the Americans on the Board who now have a human being to represent their country. It's amazing how views change of the US just by changing the President. We love you again now! <g>

Albert Punter
01-25-09, 03:59
You can leave country A with a passport issued by country C and immediately after enter country B with passport issued by country D. When you leave, just remember to show same passport you show when entering.

I don't think airlines keep record of nationalities but just names.


Did not quite understand

But if you plan to embark with one passport and arrive with a different passport, you might be in trouble. Don't these guys have passenger lists? John Doe from Canada suddenly becomes John Doe from France? Would they not find out that there was no John Doe from France on any of the passenger lists?

Prosal
01-25-09, 13:10
BsAs vs. Rio
Frankly Luka, I really don't know why you'd bother to go all the way down to BA as you could take a cheap and short flight to Sao Paulo.

For pros quality and boites, clubs and thermas abundance, Sao Paulo blows BA (as Rio BTW) out of the water.

El Greco
01-25-09, 14:56
El greco, thanks so much, I always put gol on google and found nothing....

It seems to me a bit cheaper BsAs than Rio, even if I have no idea about the attitude of brazilian and argentinian girls; which one are the most friendly and-or most passionate ?

p.s. better to stay in microcenter or recoleta ? How far are one each other exactly ?

Thanks....

Rio girls win B'sA's ones hands down. Microcentro good for daytime activity ( many privados) and shoping around Florida street. Recoleta more upscale residential area and much better for night time ten min away by taxi about 10-15 pesos.

Place to hang out there is near the cemetery. Don't lough guys but that's true. No metro station (SUBTE) near by there though.

Try this map to get orientated and read WorldTraveler's 69 guide in Argentina Private.

http://mapa.buenosaires.gov.ar/sig/index.phtml

You get a fix with street name and a cross street or street number (altura).

Pricewise in November that I was there it was about 50% cheaper than Brasil because or the reais exchange rate 1-2,5 to the euro. Now it must be almost the same. What I mean is that the prices were almost the same as in Brasil but you had a 1-1,5 reais to pesos. Many Brasilian tourists there buying everything especially shoes.
You need to book ahead your apartment or hotel room.Too many Brasilians are thinking the way you do of going there during carnival time.

CVC tour operator is having bus tours from Sao to Porto Allegre, Montevideo, Buenos, Acuncion and the waterfalls. Consider going to Foz do Iguacu as well. IMHO something that everyone who comes to Brasil must see.

Eros74
01-25-09, 19:30
Prosal...thanks...as you know I am here for the first time, after back to russia, I went for almost one month to Bratislava, so I really had no time to read the forum, but I thought Rio was in Brazil the city with the biggest fun and better sex scene....To tell the truth I do not like so much Rio, but for example I thought girl from San Paolo are almost only dark skin, am I wrong ?

Again if San Paolo it is better, why most of mongers go directly to Rio ? It is only cause it has more famous name, eve if maybe it offers less, or what ?
Prosal think Argentina was always a place I liked to see, however I am here till 22 march when I will have to go back home, I was thinking to stay all the 3 weeks of march in Rio, but as I saw yesterday, here every day it is the same, I could say I am get boring, as after I got 7 girls in 5 days from termas, now I have the feeling here I saw all the best I could see and I am tired at the night to go to help to see the exactly same faces and prices I saw on 14 january during my first day here....
Should I spent a couple of hour to read san paolo thread, I guess, but it is bad I have to read argentina forum as well....

Porto Alegre:I give a try,cause to fly Rio BsAs,costs the same as to fly rio porto alegre and porto alegre BsAs.

El greco....it seems you like much more rio girls instead brazilian ones, right ? Any reasons?

Thanks so much guys....

Prosal
01-25-09, 21:33
Should I spent a couple of hour to read san paolo thread..
You should indeed. All the info is there, and at one place.

Once again, no one in his right mind can deny that Sao Paulo has the greatest P4P scene in South America. You can hit a different place every night during three monthes without even begin to discover what the city has to offer. There is literally hundreds of massage places, prives, strip bars, upscale boites, clubs, after-hours discos, ect (not talking about regular nightlife), contrarily to Rio which can only display a low-end brothel zone, a dozen of mediocre thermas, a few lousy strip bars and one disco filled with faveladas.

In term of garotas (I know your tastes!) don't worry, you'll find in SP enough blondes and white-skinned brunettes to keep you busy for the next 20 years.

Sao Paulo Litoral Norte beachscene is great BTW. Definitely worth a few days, as Barreto if you go down to Porto Alegre.

BionicMan
01-25-09, 21:50
Did not quite understand

But if you plan to embark with one passport and arrive with a different passport, you might be in trouble. Don't these guys have passenger lists? John Doe from Canada suddenly becomes John Doe from France? Would they not find out that there was no John Doe from France on any of the passenger lists?
Passenger list is not in the hands (unless required for a check) of immigration officers at the counter..

BionicMan
01-25-09, 21:53
This is not a problem, I do this quite frequently. IE Leave 1 country on 1 passport and enter Brazil on another. For the same reason you want to, my second passport requires no visa.And what about the first country/passport: not requiring a visa to enter Brazil?

No onjections at the check-in? They are supposed to check the validity of your travel documents (and have in their hands only the 1st passport)

BionicMan
01-25-09, 21:57
There is nothing illegal about using two passports. I had a friend who was a correspondent in South Africa. Because South African stamps on a passport tainted it -- the officials were perfectly willing to stamp separate pieces of papers that were attached to the passport -- he always arrived in a black African vountry with a clean passport.

He said that at Johannesburg's an iimmigation official once went through his passport several times, shook his head and said, "You are a very interesting man. You always leave but never arrive."

My friend said that during his years in Africa he noticed that few officials knew how to read travel documents.That happens also for people traveling to both Israel and Arab countries.

Some countries even grant you two passports for the purpose: one to use for some destinations, the other for other ones.

This is different than leaving one country with passport of nation A and enter the other with passport of nation B.

El Greco
01-25-09, 22:05
El greco....it seems you like much more rio girls instead brazilian ones, right ? Any reasons?

Thanks so much guys....1-You are forgeting the beach scene of Rio Lukasek. That is Rio versus Sao Paolo

2-I guess you mean Rio girls over B's A's ones

Well in Rio you can find all the iris colours and shades plus IMO more PSE.
I like B'sA's for what it can offer to me as well as Rio. I like variety otherwise I am getting easily bored the way you do. For this variety on this trip I did Quito, Lima, B'sA's (been there many times), Sao Paolo, Rio and finally Fortaleza. Far East again in a short while.

Gfechaser
01-25-09, 23:08
Depending on ones taste I know that one may prefer Rio over SP and vice versa. Nevertheless, what are the current attitudes about Sao Paulo vs Rio? Has the current economic downturn influenced those who may travel to one or the other?

Albert Punter
01-26-09, 01:39
My friend, I am sorry to say that your idea is not correct.

Brazil in general but Sao Paulo in particular is the place where you can find the best variety of gilrs: all races, types, ethnics are here (no need to mention, I repeat all of them).

So, you can select what you like and surely won't get bored even in weeks.


I thought girl from San Paolo are almost only dark skin, am I wrong?

Eros74
01-26-09, 17:02
Prosal I am really starting to thinking Rio is so overrated, in my home town Rio is famous for the girls, you listen often about copacabana and ipanema and I have no one friend that went or speak about San Paolo, I neither thought there are beaches too. The fact you know my taste, it conforts me

Shiiiiiiit right now in internet cafe inside Miami building on prado junior. I listen few men screw loud and now in front of this internet point a man with a gun, no clear what happens, neither clear if he is a police man or not. Half here are smiling. Now I listen, arrived police byt the sound of "sirena" of their car. This is brazil. Everything is nice till something happens?

El greco you are right, I thought Argentinian girls.

Beach scene that San Paolo has at litoral norte right?

Albert to me variety is not so important, as, if I did not get boring with 45 days in Russia, where most of girls look the same, but the same very beautiful look, so it means I will never get boring if the quality is high, but even an huge variety with average quality makes boring me very soon.

Everything ended here, now from the glass door I see again normal people walking. I have neither idea of what happens and indeed I neither want to know it.

Bubba Boy
01-26-09, 17:16
and what about the first country/passport: not requiring a visa to enter Brazil?

No onjections at the check-in? They are supposed to check the validity of your travel documents (and have in their hands only the 1st passport)If they ask I show them the passport I intend to enter Brazil in. Many people have dual citizenship, it is not a big deal. Most countries insist you enter and leave 1 country on the same passport. There is no requirement once you have entered and then left a country to continue using the same passport in the next country you intend to enter. You are making a big deal out of nothing. It is perfectly acceptable to do what I have outlined above, nobody at the airport or immigration will blink an eye if you have 2 passports.

Prosal
01-26-09, 18:13
Beach scene that San Paolo has at litoral norte right ?
Maybe you missed this post :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=717769&postcount=181

Litoral Norte is a 4 hours trip by bus (with company Litoranea if my memory serves) from Sao Paulo - Rodoviaria do Tiete.

Spiros Katas
01-27-09, 00:53
Hello. I am new here, the March I ll be first time in Rio, for ten days. What I must read here into the forum to ll be ready for my trip! Sorry for my english. Its no my language: P I am greek.

Albert Punter
01-27-09, 06:57
That is all you have to do.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2192
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1782
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=569
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2478
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1507


Hello. I am new here, the March I ll be first time in Rio, for ten days. What I must read here into the forum to ll be ready for my trip! Sorry for my english. Its no my language: P I am greek.

Madd Love
01-27-09, 17:08
Here is an interesting article on Brazils Indians

"The Amazon's indigenous people: The other Brazil"
http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12641796

Madd Love
01-27-09, 18:03
Here is a public opinion taken in Brazil of racism.

I translated & extrapolated some of the article in English:

Public opinion - 26/11/2008 Preconception admitted for Brazilians diminishes In 1995 the Datafolha carried through an ample quantitative study on the preconception of color between the Brazilians. 5081 bigger people of 16 years in 121 cities of the country had been heard. The research generated a special notebook and a book, published for the publishing company Stokes. Thirteen years later, the researchers of the Datafolha had been the field, to again hear the Brazilians on the subject. One of the constatações of the research is that, while did not have change how much to the preconception that attributes its compatriots, the percentages of that admit this feeling diminished.

The great majority of the Brazilians (91%) believes that, in Brazil, the whites have preconception of color in relation to the blacks.

Of these, 57% believe that the whites have much preconception;

29% find that a little of preconception exists.

In the survey carried through in 1995, 89% said that the Brazilian whites had preconception in relation to the blacks, that is, practically identical percentage to the registered one today, since the margin of error, of both the surveys, is of colon percentile, for more or less.

Between that if they declare whites, 57% say to exist much preconception against the blacks in Brazil. This tax is of 55% between that if they classify as black and of 58% between that if they declare mediums brown.

The escolarizados blacks more demonstrate if to feel target of little preconception of what of lesser escolaridade. Between that they had arrived only until basic education, 59% affirm that the whites have much preconception in relation to the blacks. This tax falls for 53% between that they have average education and for 50% between that they have superior escolaridade.

Something similar occurs in what it says respect to the economic classification of the interviewed one. Between that they belong to classrooms D and E, 60% find that much preconception on the part of the whites in relation to the blacks in Brazil exists. This tax is of 55% between that they are part of classroom C and of 49% between that they integrate the classrooms and B

The Datafolha presented to interviewed some phrases, so that they said if they agree or they disagree with them. As well as in 1995, the majority disagreed total with the prejudiced phrases, and the percentages of discord in relation to these phrases are, today, greaters of what the registered ones in that survey. They disagree total with the phrase “if God made different races is so that they do not join 81% of the interviewed ones”, bigger tax 14 points of what the registered one in the research of 13 years behind. Between that if they declare of black color, 86% disagree total with the phrase, tax that is of 82% in such a way enters the whites how much between the mediums brown.

I thought it was an interesting article:
I post more later

Madd Love
01-27-09, 18:15
Brazilians if divide how much the image of the black in the media


The Brazilians if divide how much to the way as the blacks costumam to appear in the television. While 31% affirm that the films and the novels show the blacks in a true way, as they really live, 33% find that they are shown in negative way, in worse situation of what its life is in the reality. For 27%, the reality of the blacks is shown in positive way, better of what the one that they really live. These results are seemed the registered ones in the 1995 survey. In that occasion, 34% they found that the blacks were shown in a true way, for 32% the reality black them was shown in negative way and 24% considered that the life of the blacks in the films and novels was shown in more positive way of what the reality.

Between that if they declare of color black, the tax of that finds that the films and novels show the blacks in a negative way, worse of what they really live, arrives above average general 39%, six points and nine points above of the tax of that they think thus registered between that if they declare of white color (30%).

Madd Love
01-27-09, 18:18
Majority never voted in black politician


The majority of the Brazilians (62%) never affirms to have voted in one black politician, but it admits the hypothesis to come to make it. In relation to the research carried through in 1995, this tax oscillated a percentile point for top (it was of 61%), inside of the margin of error, that is of colon percentile. Already the percentage of that they say already to have voted in one black politician oscillated of 30% for 32%. They affirm that never they had voted in one black politician, and that they would never vote, 3%, half of the percentage registered in the survey of 13 years behind (6%). Between that if black color declare, 41% say already to have voted in one politician of its color, tax nine points bigger of what the registered one enters the total of interviewed and 12 points superior to the verified one between that if they declare whites. Between that if they declare mediums brown, this tax is of 31%, practically identical to the registered one enters the total of the sample. The voters who would vote or already had voted in one black politician do not make difference how much to the position. The percentile ones go of 86% that they would vote in a black for councilman 91% of that would give its vote to somebody of this color for president

Madd Love
01-27-09, 18:21
More Brazilian they admit Inter-racial relationships


In last the 13 years it increased the percentage of Brazilians who already had had relationships with people of different color of its. They say to have boyfriend with somebody of another color 47%, bigger tax five points of what the registered one in 1995 (42%). The percentage of that they affirm to have married with somebody of another color passed of 16% for 19% in this period. On the other hand, the tax of that never says to have married boyfriend nor with somebody of different color fell nine points, having last of 43% for 34%. The tax of that they never affirm to have if related with somebody of different color of its is six points above average between the ones that if they declare whites (40%) and 10 points below of the average between that if they declare of black color (24%). Between that if they declare of black color, 25% already had married somebody of another color, tax that is of 15% between that if they declare whites. Between the women whom if they declare of white color, the tax of that never affirms to have boyfriend with somebody of different color of its arrives 45%, superior tax 11 points to the average. Between the men who if declare whites, this tax is of 34%, percentage inside of the average. Already between the women whom if they declare of black color, 25% already had married somebody of another color, tax that is of 24% between the men who if declare blacks.

Madd Love
01-27-09, 18:26
42% know some entrepreneur black; 48% know some university professor black.



Practically all the Brazilians who if declare black color (97%) have some white friend, with a fast difference of classroom: between the blacks that belong to the classrooms, B and C 99% arrive, before 93% between the pertaining ones to D and E. The friendship with somebody which if attributes different color of the proper one is lesser in the contrary situation: 92% of the whites affirm to have a black friend, but also it has a classroom difference: 94% between that they are part of the classrooms, B or C, against 87% of that they represent the base of the economic pyramid. They know some entrepreneur black 42% of the Brazilians, mainly the men (50%, against 34% of the women), the ones that have age between 26 and 40 years (47%), the most escolarizados (60%), the ones that belong to the classrooms and B (58%) and richest (65%). But the results differ as the region: while 41% or more than the Brazilians who live in the Southeast, north-eastern or in the region North/Center-West know some entrepreneur black, in the South this tax are slightly lesser (38%).

One parcels out a little bigger affirms to know university a professor black (48%), among which if they detach again escolarizados (76%), the richest (72%) e, in this in case that, the ones that belong to the classrooms and the B (64%), beyond youngest (56%), that they are generally the ones that attend a course some superior course currently. The difference most important, however, occurs between blacks and whites: of the first ones, 55% know some university professor black, against 47% of that if they declare whites. E, again, the ones that less have this knowledge or social contact are the ones that live in the South: 44%, before 48% of that they inhabit north-eastern, and 50% of that live in the Southeast or the North/Center-West. In comparison with the social proximity of black entrepreneurs or university professors, one parcels out a little bigger (52%) knows a doctor black, mainly the most escolarizados and the ones that belong to the classrooms and the B (64% of each), beyond, as it was of if waiting, of richest (79%). The difference for region is observed again: while north-eastern 52% and 53% of that they inhabit the North/Center-West or the Southeast know some doctor black, it reaches 47% of the sulistas. The knowledge or the social contact with black doctors is, still, different for blacks (56% know some) and whites (50%), what it is accented between the black color that belong to the classrooms and B (72%), in comparison to the whites and mediums brown of this economic segment (56% and 55%, respectively). These results, and specifically the differences between social stratus, probably if must more to the fact of that, being these careers of the elite - entrepreneur, doctor and university professor, the blacks occupy that them more are known by its pairs, that is, also for the more privileged population segments.


Already, how much to the differences for region, of the one not to conclude if they elapse of a lesser social inclusion or the proportionally lesser presence of blacks in the South, in comparison with the remaining portion of the country. The majority of the Brazilians (62%) works with some black person in the company. Valley to notice that, as well as in the three described situations previously, the social stratus that more affirm this proximity are the same ones. In this in case that, 77% between 68% and, escolarizados arrive 74% richest of the classified ones in the top of the economic pyramid. Also the difference of blacks (72%) in relation to the whites (58%), and between the regions, even so with more differences between them is happened again: 49% of the sulistas say to the same have some black in workstation, tax that is of 55% between that they live in the region North/Center-West, arrives north-eastern 63%, and is bigger in the Southeast (69%).

Madd Love
01-27-09, 18:32
Racial discrimination Perception of racial preconception diminishes 80% of the blacks are satisfied with the appearance, and they would not change nothing in it.


The majority of the Brazilians (54%) agrees that the main problem faced for the blacks in the country is the difficulties related to the work and/or to obtain job. This perception increased in relation the 1995, when 45% of the interviewed ones had mentioned spontaneously that this would have to be the biggest difficulty of the Brazilian black population. Considering it auto-attribution of the color, between the blacks, 59% find that this is the main faced problem, before 50% of the whites that think thus, and 55% of that if they consider mediums brown. Also it increased slightly the parcel of that the schools, study and culture point the difficulty of the blacks in the access: of 14% it has thirteen years for 19% this year. Escolarizados Brazilians more (28%) and with familiar income above of twenty minimum wages (31%) have this perception above average. On the other hand, the perception of the racial preconception, general way, diminished, in the opinion of 44% in that year for 32% today, perception that diminishes, also, for the black women and men: 31% and 30%, this year, against 35% and 37%, respectively, in 1995. Other vicissitudes faced for the black population would be the proper difficulties in the life in society, as restrictions the public and private places (in the 9% opinion), the marginalização of the blacks, visas as outlaws (4%) and difficulties of access the health services (2%). Other types of problems, varied had been mentioned to it, 6%, for 2% the blacks do not face any problem due its color, and 9% had not known to say. As well as the perception of that the racial preconception, general way, diminished in Brazil between 1995 and 2008, less Brazilian if they feel discriminated today in virtue of the color: 16% against 22% have one decade more than. However, 41% of the blacks affirm, spontaneously, already to have suffered preconception in function from the color of the skin, under the form of discrimination in public or private places (13%), discrimination in the school, on the part of professors and/or colleagues (9%), discrimination in the work (8%), had the maldosos commentaries and tricks in relation to the color of skin (6%) e, still, to the loss of possibility of some vacant or job (5%), amongst other forms of discrimination. But 7% of the Brazilians who if say whites affirm to have suffered discrimination from color. Younger Brazilian blacks, up to 25 years, mention themselves, above average, the discrimination in the school, while the ones that have between 26 and 40 cite more the discrimination in the work (11%), and 17% of that have 41 years or more they cite more to the discrimination in public places. Stimulated to say if already they had suffered discrimination in function from the color in the hour to obtain some work, 21% of that if blacks declare had answered affirmatively. A little less frequent, as affirms, is the preconception ahead of some possibility to receive promotion (12%), ahead of the possibility to study in some school (10%), and possibility to buy or to rent a house (8%). Between the blacks whose familiar income is of up to ten minimum wages are still bigger the ratio of that already they had been felt discriminated in the hour to obtain a job (21%), whereas between that they have income between ten and twenty wages it is distinguished perception of discrimination in studying in some school (22%). Between that if these taxes call mediums brown do not exceed 6%, and they do not pass of 2% between the whites. To more investigate a little on the perception of color of skin of the Brazilians, the Datafolha asked for the interviewed ones that they classified some personalities known for the color. For 70%, former-president Fernando Enrique Cardoso is undeniably white, a still bigger parcel (79%) classifies Gilbert Gil as black, category where 54% include the actress Such Araújo, and 27% mention the actress Camila Pitanga. The case of this, however, can disclose a little of the difficulty of the definition of color in Brazil, a time that others 36% consider medium brown Camila. The same it is observed in relation to the Juliana actress Breads, white for 22% of the Brazilians, but medium brown for 49%; also in relation to the former-player of Romário soccer, black color for 31% and medium brown for 51%, opinion still more divided in relation the Squid, white as 45%, but medium brown for 42%. More emblematic of this supposed difficulty they are the cases of the player of the Brazilian election Marta, the singers Zeca Pagodinho and Caetano Veloso and, mainly, of Ronaldo, the phenomenon. In the case of Marta, 13% of the Brazilians consider it white, 20% black color and 35%, medium brown. They also classify Zeca Pagodinho as white 13%, as black 22%, and as medium brown 52%, while Caetano Veloso are white for 26%, black color for 14% and medium brown second 40%. Ronaldo, of all the investigated personalities, is what more it confuses: for 23% it is white, for 20% it is black, but in the 44% opinion it is medium brown.

Bigben0
02-06-09, 14:59
Hi all,

Does anyone know where I might be able to buy a Dell (latitude) charger in Rio?

Thanks!

BB.

Madd Love
02-06-09, 17:41
Brazil's largest city is too often overlooked in favour of Rio

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/destinations/latin_america/article5621645.ece

Poucolouco
02-06-09, 22:14
Hi all,

Does anyone know where I might be able to buy a Dell (latitude) charger in Rio?

Thanks!

BB.

Try this place. Take metro and exit at Carioca station, to Ave Rio Branco. There is a tall building on your left, next to Metro. It is full of little computer tech stores (3 floors). It is a fair bet one will have what you are looking for.

Bigben0
02-07-09, 00:29
Thanks i'll give it a try!

Sprite13
02-07-09, 02:19
Since I will be staying only for 10 days and I don't want to risk losing my Iphone with all my business contacts on it, I would like to get from you guys some suggestions for renting a cheap cell phone in Rio for 10 days.

Thanks!

Marcop 12
02-07-09, 02:30
Brazillian ebay

http://lista.mercadolivre.com.br

Or dell Brazil

http://www.dell.com.br/

Theres also a computer shop sells bits and pieces spares, got some Dell ram and stuff before in ipanema few blocks down from general ororio, think number 311 or somthing in small shopping center tpye place, left hand side walking down from genral osorio.


Hi all,

Does anyone know where I might be able to buy a Dell (latitude) charger in Rio?

Thanks!

BB.

Eros74
02-07-09, 02:35
Friend not to mention that everytime a girl will write you sms and you will take out your iphone you will risk somebody bad will notice you have it...not so good to show such expensive stuff in Brazil...Actually for the first time now in BsAs I am using my Armani clothes, in Brazil all the time I dressed enough cheap, I got the feeling the best you dress, the more higher price they ask you....imho

I do not know if you have enough time, but why not to buy a gsm nokia, a cheap one, for 20 or 30 euro by ebay for example, it will be more than enough and if you lose, you lose only little money.

I do not know where you can rent it, but try to ask to the agency or owner that rent you the flat, I am pretty sure that if you ask in advance they can rent you.

Actually I have good nokia with my home town number that all the time I leave in my flat and a cheap nokia with brazilian number that I take with me, it works good for me.

Marcop 12
02-07-09, 02:36
Probaly better just buying one, if you take your passport to TIM store you can get pay as you go sim and phone $R300 work out cheaper than renting which can end up with problems, theres 2 or 3 on An N copacabana, and one I can think of in ipanema not too far from general osorio also few in leblon, one deffo at leblon shopping.

Top up credit, *222 it will read back your number imputed then ask to confirm by pressing 4

Useful to check your credit, *222#


Since I will be staying only for 10 days and I don't want to risk losing my Iphone with all my business contacts on it, I would like to get from you guys some suggestions for renting a cheap cell phone in Rio for 10 days.

Thanks!

Sunset Strip
02-07-09, 03:53
Since I will be staying only for 10 days and I don't want to risk losing my Iphone with all my business contacts on it, I would like to get from you guys some suggestions for renting a cheap cell phone in Rio for 10 days.

Thanks!

Check the using cell phones thread to find guys who might know more about this and pm them (just in case they miss this post).

It seems most on that thread agreed that no matter what, it is best just to buy a phone. I got one for about $50US and just recharge it when I get to Rio.

True, I overpaid for an OI sim card ($US40),plus postage, but I now know you can get them for about R$15-25 once in Rio.

I used to rent a phone at $US5, a day which was about the going rate 5 years ago. It might be more now, but it seems you will be paying at least $50 for the entire 10 days. You can buy a gsm for that amount and then you own it and can take it down whenever you go back to Brazil.

Here is where I got my phone, the A55, that is now actually $10 cheaper than when I bought it. Shipping was $10 and I got it in 3 days, so for you the total will be US$49 and it comes with an international sim card and a toll free number so people in most countries can call you.
http://www.telestial.com/

Sprite13
02-07-09, 08:54
Thanks guys for the replies. I will follow the wise advise administered in here and buy a cheap unlocked phone before coming down and then get a sim card locally.

Thanks again!

Jan 156
02-07-09, 13:10
It seems most on that thread agreed that no matter what, it is best just to buy a phone. I got one for about $50US and just recharge it when I get to Rio.


Yep. I use an old phone any right-minded mugger would want to be paid just for taking it off my hands. But I kep all my Brasil numbers on it and just get a new Sim if I´m away long enough for the old one to run out. A smart phone is great for music or to use as a mini-computer, but it stays in the apartment or hotel.

ps you may have noticed that in Copa especially phones travel best stuffed down the front of your jeans.

Shaguar
02-07-09, 20:43
I have yet to visit Brazil, and the itch to do it now is back, bigger than ever. This is partly because the real is finally weaker, and probably on the way back up, so now or never I guess. Beyond that, there are more travel deals or so I hear. Rather than wait to be jobless and poor, I would like to spend this money on garotas than buying stocks.

As an aside, the best I have ever done in the market was lose my shirt, and that was in the best of times. Never again! Anyway, I was thinking there must be other lonely travellers who want to visit Brazil in the low season (April or May or June). How do we unite? I know this is a difficult prospect for people who know each other, and pretty near impossible for stangers over the interweb. I wonder if there is a business idea there - finding other horny men to travel with to sex vacations! I favour the odds over finding a decent woman to date on a dating site!

Louie Cifre
02-07-09, 21:40
Ok! I'm off to Brasil next Friday First time in Brasil, first time in America, first time I travel alone

I will go to Rio first and there I will meet a girl so I think I'll be safe that way

After I'm going to SP to meet someone else, so I have locals that will watch out for me.)

But I will arrive at the international airport in sp and have a flight to Rio that same night. There is 3 hours between the flights and I will go with TAM from sp to Rio. Is 3 hours enough time? I will arrive at terminal 1. Are the signs in english or portugese only? I only speak english.

Any help would be much appreciated! A bit nervous and very excited about this trip.

PS: Anyone know something about Ilha Bella? Thats where we are headed. I hear there are "special" mosquitos there. Any info?

LC

Sprite13
02-08-09, 07:53
Louis,
No problem in GRU, the airport is easy to navigate and find your way to your connection. 3 Hours is more than enough between the 2 flights in GRU. The signs are in both English and Portuguese. You may also easily ask the people there and you could find some English speaking staff. But no worries, GRU is not that difficult to navigate.

Ilha Bela is a gorgeous place, you will love it. It will be packed at this time of the year, full of very willing and beautiful young non pros. However, Portuguese is a must to tap into that market. If you have a good local wingman, you could sample some. But if not, best to BYOG.

Welcome to Brasil. You will have a blast!:)

Tiradentes
02-09-09, 05:08
No one is safe in Brazil, not even the son of President Lula who was assaulted in his hometown.

Famed talkshow Ratinho always used to compare the violence in his country to a a civil war. How right was he !.

From OGlobo

"O psicólogo Marcos Cláudio Lula da Silva, 38 anos, filho do presidente Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, foi assaltado na noite de sexta-feira, por volta de 22h, ao parar em um semáforo na Rua Frei Gaspar, no centro de São Bernardo do Campo, ABC paulista. No boletim de ocorrência consta que ele foi abordado por três homens armados, que anunciaram o roubo, o ameaçaram e levaram o carro, um cartão de banco e documentos pessoais. Ninguém ficou ferido. "

TummySangs
02-10-09, 18:25
Most of the reports I read state that ATM's are closed on week ends. I am arriving on a saturday ,what would be the best place/exchange rate to get $R?

I am staying in Copacabana.Are the Cambios in Copa open on Saturdays?

Exec Talent
02-11-09, 07:16
Most of the reports I read state that ATM's are closed on week ends. I am arriving on a saturday ,what would be the best place/exchange rate to get $R?

I am staying in Copacabana.Are the Cambios in Copa open on Saturdays?

ATMs are available Saturday and Sunday and offer the best exchange rate. HSBC is a good option. Cambios will be open on Saturday usually until around 2:00.

Koolkid
02-11-09, 07:24
ATMs are available Saturday and Sunday and offer the best exchange rate. HSBC is a good option. Cambios will be open on Saturday usually until around 2:00.Is there a HSBC or other type of ATM that will take a UK card anywhere near Rua Almirante Goncalves as this is where I'm hoping to stay.

Thanks

Perkele
02-11-09, 11:37
ATMs are available Saturday and Sunday and offer the best exchange rate. HSBC is a good option. Cambios will be open on Saturday usually until around 2:00.
But, do remember that between 22.00 and 06.00 one may withdraw only 100 reais ONCE. This because there has been lots of kidnappings where the criminals have taken the victims from ATM to another forcing them to withdraw max everytime.

TummySangs
02-11-09, 18:49
Thank you all for the info.

Is there a HSBC or Citbank around Help or near the Marriott hotel on Ave. Atlan?


But, do remember that between 22.00 and 06.00 one may withdraw only 100 reais ONCE. This because there has been lots of kidnappings where the criminals have taken the victims from ATM to another forcing them to withdraw max everytime.

Marcop 12
02-11-09, 19:12
Is there a HSBC or other type of ATM that will take a UK card anywhere near Rua Almirante Goncalves as this is where I'm hoping to stay.

ThanksHi,

Yeah no problems using UK cards, there an HSBS on the street behind you and I think it actually right around that block where Rua Almirante Goncalves is on Av Ns Copacabana. The red ATM also work good but do an additional charge of $R8 then whatever your bank charges, its not a problem but my first choice is HSBC as its only your standard £1. 50 for using abroad which is less than standard. And free from machine. Just select 'Checking Account'

Also I found the ATM inside the many pharmacys good if you have card problems which I do occasionally. One word of advice call your bank and let them know your dates your travelling. Its a new security procedure and they COMPLETLY shut you down and can prove fatal if you fuck up any of the security questions and they shut you down and you got to go into a branch in the UK!

Also as reported all banks only give you $R100 after 10pm and more hassles at weekends or holidays.

But not sure if others know but I know of one bank ATM in Rio where you can get your daily limit any time well 24hrs. Its in the supermarket at Zona Sul at General Osorio, across from banana jacks and the Irish Pub. Its saved me several times, when getting involved in latenight visits to Sinless and the like and taking extra girl or girls

Also to use any credit\debit card in after hour, pay by the hour motels they add on 30% extra on your bill! I though they was trying it on but I guess either pissed previously or first time paid with card and used cash.

Happy times await you.

Jan 156
02-11-09, 20:58
But, do remember that between 22.00 and 06.00 one may withdraw only 100 reais ONCE. This because there has been lots of kidnappings where the criminals have taken the victims from ATM to another forcing them to withdraw max everytime.

Also, many will simply just run out of cash over the weekend . . . If one doesn´t work, shop around.

Koolkid
02-12-09, 05:50
Hi,

Yeah no problems using UK cards, there an HSBS on the street behind you and I think it actually right around that block where Rua Almirante Goncalves is on Av Ns Copacabana. The red ATM also work good but do an additional charge of $R8 then whatever your bank charges, its not a problem but my first choice is HSBC as its only your standard £1. 50 for using abroad which is less than standard. And free from machine. Just select 'Checking Account'

Also I found the ATM inside the many pharmacys good if you have card problems which I do occasionally. One word of advice call your bank and let them know your dates your travelling. Its a new security procedure and they COMPLETLY shut you down and can prove fatal if you fuck up any of the security questions and they shut you down and you got to go into a branch in the UK!

Also as reported all banks only give you $R100 after 10pm and more hassles at weekends or holidays.

But not sure if others know but I know of one bank ATM in Rio where you can get your daily limit any time well 24hrs. Its in the supermarket at Zona Sul at General Osorio, across from banana jacks and the Irish Pub. Its saved me several times, when getting involved in latenight visits to Sinless and the like and taking extra girl or girls

Also to use any credit\debit card in after hour, pay by the hour motels they add on 30% extra on your bill! I though they was trying it on but I guess either pissed previously or first time paid with card and used cash.

Happy times await you.Great info, thanks.

Marcop 12
02-12-09, 16:45
hi all,

does anyone know of any good freelance portuguese tutors? i'm looking to do 1 or 2 hours per day for a while get upto speed.

or any other recommended options

so if anyone got contact details or website or where i can locate would be excellent

thanks in advance

Rio Lover #2
02-12-09, 23:27
Thank you all for the info.

Is there a HSBC or Citbank around Help or near the Marriott hotel on Ave. Atlan?


There are two HSBC banks near the Marriott, both on Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, one is towards Siqueira Campos, near Zona Sul supermercado,
the other one is towards Ipanema, just past Rua Santa Clara. The first one is nearer to the Marriott.

Citibank is near the first HSBC on the corner Figueireido de Magalhaes and Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, next to Blockbuster.

Java Man
02-13-09, 08:06
Citibank is near the first HSBC on the corner Figueireido de Magalhaes and Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, next to Blockbuster.That Citibank ATM closed. They opened a Branch with 24hr ATM at Av. N. S. de Copacabana, 828. It's between Churrascaria Monchique and R. Constante Ramos.
That Blockbuster also closed. There's a Lojas Americanas on that corner now.

Galinsoga
02-13-09, 20:57
Folks

I used to access WikiGP (http://www.wikigp.com/wiki/pagina_principal) for information about the ladies in preparation for a visit sometime in the next month or so. However, the site no longer seems to be responding.

Is this a case of "not outside Brazil" like a certain other site - or has it just gone down/ been taken off

Galinsoga

Rio Lover #2
02-13-09, 22:58
That Citibank ATM closed. They opened a Branch with 24hr ATM at Av. N. S. de Copacabana, 828. It's between Churrascaria Monchique and R. Constante Ramos.
That Blockbuster also closed. There's a Lojas Americanas on that corner now.


Chingon,

Thank you for the update...
It has been more than a year that I haven't been to Rio. Fortunately I will be back by the end of April.

Albert Punter
02-14-09, 15:37
Infos about GDP's and test drives may be found on following websites too:
www.gpguia.net
www.forumsd.com.br
www.forum.portaldasacompanhantes.com.br
www.gpsportclub.com
www.gpbr.net/forum/



Folks

I used to access WikiGP (http://www.wikigp.com/wiki/pagina_principal) for information about the ladies in preparation for a visit sometime in the next month or so. However, the site no longer seems to be responding.

Is this a case of "not outside Brazil" like a certain other site - or has it just gone down/ been taken off

Galinsoga

Rss910
02-20-09, 06:19
Hey can anyone recommend a website that sells the generic versions of vitamin V and C? $10-$12 a pop is alot when you add up the usage.

Koolkid
02-23-09, 16:12
What is the legal limit for alcohol and cigarettes being brought into brazil (GIG). What is GIG like as an airport?

Your advice and experiences is appreciated.

Thanks

Sunset Strip
02-23-09, 16:48
Is there any internet link that is streaming the carnival live?
yeah.

http://www.carnaval.salvador.ba.gov.br/2009/Servicos/AoVivo.asp
for Bahia. These cams are up 24 hours a day.

Rio is doing less live streaming but this second site, http://carnaval2009.ig.com.br/aovivo/ , keeps up with realtime information and live feeds from Rio time-to-time. They focus on Bahia quite a bit like the first site too. They start the live feeds when things get pumping. Just click on the" Geral" heading and the video will start.


The second one is probably the best site.
TJ

Perkele
02-23-09, 17:07
What is the legal limit for alcohol and cigarettes being brought into brazil (GIG). What is GIG like as an airport?

Your advice and experiences is appreciated.

Thanks

Alcohol you can bring abroad 1 liter. At the GIG tax free you may buy 12 liters of each kind, Whisky, vodka etc., up to limit of 500 USD.

Why would you bring cigarettes? They are very cheap in Brasil.

Koolkid
02-23-09, 19:32
Alcohol you can bring abroad 1 liter. At the GIG tax free you may buy 12 liters of each kind, Whisky, vodka etc., up to limit of 500 USD.

Why would you bring cigarettes? They are very cheap in Brasil.Thanks for the info. This is my 1st trip to Brazil, so I don't know how much things cost. How much do the cigarettes cost? What brands?

Also where is the GIG tax free shop once you come off the plane, or is this shop for departing Rio and heading back home.

Sorry for all the questions.

Thanks

Eros74
02-24-09, 00:54
i would like to try this:

http://www.rioturismoradical.com.br/paragliding.htm

or this :

www.flex1delta.com.br

they are not the same as they also take off from different places, the national park tijuca or from sao conrado, praja do pepino.

so if somebody tried it, i have 3 questions:

1 ) which is the best to have better view during the flight ?

2 ) if from na praia do pepino is better ala delta or parapentes ? ( which one gives more adrenalina or it is more nice ? )

3 ) it is better to have as memory photos or dvd ? i guess for sure dvd, but my question is, how, if it is possible, to get out of dvd photos to send later to your friends ?

thanks so much and later the report :)

El Austriaco
02-24-09, 02:26
1 ) they are not the same as they also take off from different places, the national park tijuca or from sao conrado, praja do pepino. (...) which is the best to have better view during the flight?
as far as i know, the only place to go hang-gliding (asa delta) or paragliding (parapente) in the city of rio is from pedra bonita. there is no other ramp. please note that that pedra bonita is located inside the tijuca national park, just above são conrado, so that's where the confusion possibly comes from. in all cases, you land on pepino beach... well, actually i didn't :(


2 ) if from na praia do pepino is better ala delta or parapentes ? ( which one gives more adrenalina or it is more nice ? ):)
i posted a story a while ago regarding my own first-hand experience with hang-gliding in rio back in 2004. enough adrenalin for me :)

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=565658&postcount=2802

as to a general assessment of hg safety:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=322391&postcount=259


3 ) it is better to have as memory photos or dvd ? i guess for sure dvd, but my question is, how, if it is possible, to get out of dvd photos to send later to your friends?)
can't help with that one... unfortunately or fortunately, i didn't get an pictures or dvd during my flight, as you will certainly understand :)

ea

JohnnyBraz
02-24-09, 08:40
as far as i know, the only place to go hang-gliding (asa delta) or paragliding (parapente) in the city of rio is from pedra bonita. there is no other ramp. please note that that pedra bonita is located inside the tijuca national park, just above são conrado, so that's where the confusion possibly comes from. in all cases, you land on pepino beach... well, actually i didn't :(

i posted a story a while ago regarding my own first-hand experience with hang-gliding in rio back in 2004. enough adrenalin for me :)

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=565658&postcount=2802

as to a general assessment of hg safety:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=322391&postcount=259

can't help with that one... unfortunately or fortunately, i didn't get an pictures or dvd during my flight, as you will certainly understand :)

eajust as i was thinking off doing hand gliding on my next trip. your post has put me off (even though i have done a free fall skydiving jump from 12000 feet). might try water rafting and skuba diving instead.

Phunluv
02-24-09, 09:35
i tried it last year (may 2008) and thought it was one of the coolest things i've ever done.

still, after reading austriaco's story, i realize i got into trying it without really thinking through the consequences if something should go wrong. the idea of suffering a serious injury in brazil (much less dying, yikes) sounds absolutely terrifying now that he mentions it. the only injuries i want in rio are sex injuries, lol! ;) i probably now will skip doing it again for my 2nd trip this coming may, no need to push my luck. . .

what i can tell is that when my turn came up, i waited a very long time before we ran off the platform, at least 15, maybe 20 minutes, until one of the guys working nearby told my pilot the wind was good. the other people before me were luckier, they didn't have to wait as long.

but after reading austriaco's story, i appreciate even more now that my pilot was patient and not a risk-taker.

the wait on the platform is the worst part. absolutely nerve wracking, at least for me. the idea of running off a platform at full speed seems suicidal at first, but i sprinted right off that platform, even my pilot was impressed. that's the key, you need to generate as much forward momentum as possible just in case the wind starts to die down again right after the launch.

it was fun once the long wait was over, but i did notice dead pockets of air where you're dropping instead of gliding so i think austriaco must have run into a dead pocket right from the get go and his pilot never recovered.

that's why the initial run is so important and i suspect after his incident and the others mentioned, they are more attentive to the wind conditions, considering i held up the line behind me for at least 15 minutes. . .

it would be interesting to know if there have been any recent incidents with these hang-gliders. anyone out there know?

Exec Talent
02-24-09, 13:41
the wait on the platform is the worst part. absolutely nerve wracking, at least for me. the idea of running off a platform at full speed seems suicidal at first, but i sprinted right off that platform, even my pilot was impressed. that's the key, you need to generate as much forward momentum as possible just in case the wind starts to die down again right after the launch.

my pilot was very cautious and we actually ran out three or four times before we took off. that was the scariest part - running then stopping and looking down from the cliff. however, once airborne, it was a great time. when it came time to land i spied a girl sunbathing topless on the beach below. i asked the pilot how close he could get and he just smiled and said, very close. like sully, he put the glider down smooth and steady and right next to her. my hero.

Eros74
02-24-09, 22:36
El Austriaco,

thanks so much for share it or to post it again....you wrote it so good I had the feeling to be you there....

Now I am in a big trouble, if do it or not....

I did bungee jumping from 120 metrs bridge and parashut from 3200 metrs twice in my home town and to see Rio from the sky is something I want to try...

We will see, I will let you know my decision.

Thanks again....

El Austriaco
02-25-09, 03:02
It would be interesting to know if there have been any recent incidents with these hang-gliders. Anyone out there know?
Read about the one I posted back in 2007. Pretty unbelievable:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=602169&postcount=636

You can even see a Youtube video of the incident here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwbPK7sCCtk&feature=related

Here's another (undated) incident, posted this January on Youtube (Aluno de Asa Delta quase perde a vida):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78x7gJ842wY&feature=related


Just as I was thinking of doing hand gliding on my next trip. Your post has put me off.

I probably now will skip doing it again for my 2nd trip this coming May, no need to push my luck. . .

Now I am in a big trouble, if do it or not.....
I guess the most important part is that regardless of whether you do it or not, you are comfortable with your decision, based on your own risk assessment/tolerance and full awareness of all aspects involved. I didn't write this to put people off or even scare them, not at all. As a matter of fact, here's what I wrote in an email a few years ago to another monger:

"You know, another reason I was reluctant to actually write the whole story on this board was precisely that I was concerned that people would just get scared when hearing the story in all its gory details (just like people in Rio that I met in the aftermath of all of this), and I thought that it wouldn't be fair necessarily to deny them something they truly want to do and will most likely very much enjoy. A while ago, there was a guy on this board who said "I was walking on Copa beach in the middle of the night, nothing happened, so it must be safe", and I chided him for his logic. By the same token, I have to say, the fact that I went HG and suffered an accident also doesn't mean that it is necessarily unsafe. What happened to me back in 2004 is purely anectodal and only serves to underscore what CAN happen, not necessarily what will or is even likely to happen. The only thing that I can do is put out as many verifiable facts as I have about Rio HG and let everyone else make an educated choice. But remember what they say about aviation: aviation is very safe, but if things go wrong, they usually go very wrong. I guess my story goes to drive home that point, and in my case, things didn't even go terribly wrong. "

Personally, I am with Phunluv: I wouldn't try HG myself again, maybe just because I feel that I already lucked out once, and it would feel like I'd be pushing my luck again. No worries, I'll find some other crazy stuff to do :)

El Minetero
02-25-09, 11:39
Oops, I should have checked it first. Never mind...

KT

Voyajer1
02-25-09, 14:23
This is an urban legend. Check out the website:

http://www.snopes.com/business/bank/pinalert.asp

I got this, might be helpful;

THE RECENT TRAGEDY OF A YOUNG WOMAN BEING KIDNAPPED AND
EVENTUALLY KILLED; AFTER SHE HAD REPEATEDLY GIVEN THE KIDNAPPER A WRONG PIN TO HER ATM CARD. IF SHE KNEW THE METHOD BELOW, SHE COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED. SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO LET YOU KNOW.


IF YOU SHOULD EVER BE FORCED BY ROBBER TO WITHDRAW MONEY FROM
AN ATM MACHINE, YOU CAN NOTIFY THE POLICE BY ENTERING YOUR PIN # IN REVERSE.

FOR EXAMPLE IF YOUR PIN NUMBER IS 1234 THEN YOU WOULD PUT IN 4321.

THE ATM RECOGNIZES THAT YOUR PIN NUMBER IS BACKWARDS FROM THE
ATM CARD YOU PLACED IN THE MACHINE. THE MACHINE WILL STILL GIVE YOU THE MONEY YOU REQUESTED, BUT UNKNOWN TO THE ROBBER, THE POLICE WILL BE IMMEDIATELY DISPATCHED TO HELP YOU.

THIS INFORMATION WAS RECENTLY BROADCAST ON FOX TV AND IT
STATES THAT IT IS SELDOM USED BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IT EXISTS.

PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG. You can go on snopes to verify.

KT

Poucolouco
02-25-09, 16:04
Thanks for the info. This is my 1st trip to Brazil, so I don't know how much things cost. How much do the cigarettes cost? What brands?

Also where is the GIG tax free shop once you come off the plane, or is this shop for departing Rio and heading back home.

Sorry for all the questions.

Thanks

...20 foreign made cigarette packs. If you have a favorite brand, don´t count on the Brazilian version to be the same, bring your favorite from home. Some American cigarette brands and types are not available in Brasil.

http://www.receita.fazenda.gov.br/principal/Ingles/faq.htm

There is a huge Duty Free shop in the same area as baggage claim. Liquor is cheaper here than you will pay in Rio stores. It is also cheaper than you will pay on the airline. You can shop here before you exit the customs area. There is also a separate duty free shop in the international departures area.

Eros74
02-25-09, 18:57
....But remember what they say about aviation: aviation is very safe, but if things go wrong, they usually go very wrong...

I totally quote this sentence...

Thanks again for your link...I will think and decide...

Bravo
02-25-09, 23:35
as far as i know, the only place to go hang-gliding (asa delta) or paragliding (parapente) in the city of rio is from pedra bonita. there is no other ramp. please note that that pedra bonita is located inside the tijuca national park, just above são conrado, so that's where the confusion possibly comes from. in all cases, you land on pepino beach... well, actually i didn't :(


i posted a story a while ago regarding my own first-hand experience with hang-gliding in rio back in 2004. enough adrenalin for me :)

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=565658&postcount=2802



ea


el austriaco!! where is part 2 of the story?!! the first part was incredible, i cant wait to read what happened the next day!!

Koolkid
02-26-09, 08:20
...20 foreign made cigarette packs. If you have a favorite brand, don´t count on the Brazilian version to be the same, bring your favorite from home. Some American cigarette brands and types are not available in Brasil.

http://www.receita.fazenda.gov.br/principal/Ingles/faq.htm

There is a huge Duty Free shop in the same area as baggage claim. Liquor is cheaper here than you will pay in Rio stores. It is also cheaper than you will pay on the airline. You can shop here before you exit the customs area. There is also a separate duty free shop in the international departures area.Thanks for your help. Will probably get my hennessy and johnnie here then.

El Minetero
02-26-09, 12:08
'Aviation, to any even greater degree than the sea, is unforgiving of any momentary inattention, incompetence or negligence'.

This under a photo of an old bi-plane, crashed into the only tree within sight.

In regard to hang gliding:

'Don't fly any higher than you want to fall.'

I personally knew two people who died in hang gliders. One forgot to set a pin, and it folded on him when he flared to land. The other misjudged the winds and smashed into a cliff.

KT

Neverenuff
02-27-09, 09:10
I am going to Rio for my 1st time in APril and hang gliding WAS the 1st thing I wanted to do. I'm really not so sure anymore.

Koolkid
03-04-09, 07:14
When going out drinking in bars and termas and even place like MP what is the rule for paying your bar bill? Is it paid once the drink arrives? (which I think is safer). Or is it paid at the end when you leave the place.

Do different places have different rules, only I would prefer to pay as I go to prevent unwanted drinks added etc, but don't want to look silly if this is not the done thing in Rio.

Thanks

Java Man
03-04-09, 10:47
When going out drinking in bars and termas and even place like MP what is the rule for paying your bar bill? Is it paid once the drink arrives? (which I think is safer). Or is it paid at the end when you leave the place.

Do different places have different rules, only I would prefer to pay as I go to prevent unwanted drinks added etc, but don't want to look silly if this is not the done thing in Rio.

ThanksPay at the end. I don't think I've ever paid as it's served, unless I only wanted one drink. This applies to ALL restaurants as well. You may lose count in the termas, as your attention is drawn elsewhere. LOL

Exec Talent
03-04-09, 14:38
Pay at the end. I don't think I've ever paid as it's served, unless I only wanted one drink. This applies to ALL restaurants as well. You may lose count in the termas, as your attention is drawn elsewhere. LOL
Centaurus, because they trust and love everyone so much, requires payment (especially from newbie gringos) upfront. You can tell them you are not sure you want a girl and they will charge you R$120 (instead of R$400). However, should you decide to take a girl they will insist that you pay the remainder (R$280) right then. They are nice enough to trust that you will pay for your drinks and any food when you leave (but will most likely pad the bill -- so ask for a printout).

Oh, and do not forget to tip everyone in sight. In reality, they will not let you forget.

Poucolouco
03-04-09, 15:29
When going out drinking in bars and termas and even place like MP what is the rule for paying your bar bill? Is it paid once the drink arrives? (which I think is safer). Or is it paid at the end when you leave the place.

Do different places have different rules, only I would prefer to pay as I go to prevent unwanted drinks added etc, but don't want to look silly if this is not the done thing in Rio.

Thanks

Usually the bill is paid when you are ready to leave and you ask for "a conta," the bill. Some places will give you the complete accounting with little slips of paper attached. It is acceptable and a good idea to study this accounting BEFORE you pay. Some smaller bars will collect when they deliver your drink. Some vary between the two practices depending on how crowded the bar is.
Some will attempt to pad the bill, most do not do this but occasionally mistakes are made. It´s only human.

Perkele
03-04-09, 18:53
Some will attempt to pad the bill, most do not do this but occasionally mistakes are made. It´s only human.

Well I wouldn't be so sure. Most bars on Av. Atlantica will try to slip something extra on your bill.

Most notorious one is Balcony. They have couple of morons who keep doing that all the time.

Normal bars do not have this kind of practise.

Also many bars have a comanda, a card where they mark what you have consumed and then you'll pay when leaving.

Eros74
03-04-09, 21:30
.....Some will attempt to pad the bill, most do not do this but occasionally mistakes are made. It´s only human.

But it is only fucking typical brazilian that everytime.....occasionaly....they make mistakes....you ALWAYS are gonna to pay more, NEVER less....yes it is human and coincidentally....yes...for sure.... LOL

El Austriaco
03-04-09, 23:52
But it is only fucking typical brazilian that everytime.....occasionaly....they make mistakes....you ALWAYS are gonna to pay more, NEVER less....yes it is human and coincidentally....yes...for sure.... LOL
To tell you the truth, I am with Poucolouco on this. Most of the time, any errors are in their favor, but I have come across situations were it was actually less, simply because they are so bad at math. BTW, the same happens here in Mexico, where I've been living for six years now: most waiters are just so bad at calculating in their head, they just do make a lot of mistakes. And then of course, there are clearly places where they routinely try to rip you off, no doubt about it. In all the places commonly frequented by mongers along Av. Atlantica, I have only had 2 or 3 problems with this over the years, during hundreds of visits to these establishments. Honestly, it's really not very common in my personal experience.

Of course, if someone is getting hammered out of his mind, the chances of getting ripped off increase dramatically. Since paying as you go along is not common, I suggest asking the waiter for a piece of paper where you can tick off drinks. I repeat: YOU keep track of your drinks for your own sake, not THEM. Sends a message that you're not a fool, too :)

EA

Eros74
03-05-09, 01:51
From the bill of minibar at Transamerica Hotel in Curitiba, from the 3 beers instead of 2 at Lagoa da coincecao in Floripa, even this afternoon at Ipanema, the bill of chair and drinks at the beach.....I have many examples from my experience and even more, if you start to ask to other turists....I am here almost 7 weeks, not 7 days....and everytime the errors were in their favor....never found a place as Brazil, where everybody has its dick out waiting to put it inside your ass....but obviously it is human, coincidentally that brazilians has problem with math....overwise I am sure their errors were in my favour, is not it ?

Black Snake
03-05-09, 14:00
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/03/05/lkl.brazil.custody/index.html


CNN) -- An 8-year-old American boy is caught in the middle of an ugly custody battle so high profile that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is using her clout to try to bring the boy home.

David Goldman's legal battle to gain custody of his son has drawn the attention of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

In 2004, David Goldman dropped off his wife, Bruna, and then-4-year-old son, Sean, at the airport for a two-week vacation in Brazil. Shortly after she arrived in her native country, Bruna told David she wanted a divorce and planned to stay in Brazil with their son.

Bruna later remarried and got pregnant, but she died while giving birth last summer. Goldman thought he was getting his son back, but a Brazilian family court judge granted custody of Sean to Bruna's new husband.

Goldman talked with CNN's Larry King about the international legal battle he is waging to gain custody of his son. The following is an edited version of the interview.

Larry King: What caused the breakup of the marriage?

David Goldman: I don't know. Apparently, she decided she wanted to live in Brazil, where she said she had more friends and more family and where she was known.

King: Did you feel happily married?

Goldman: Yes, I thought we were happily married.

King: So this was a call out of the blue?

Goldman: I was completely blindsided and crushed.

King: What did you do then?

Goldman: Well, I (got) a phone call. My mom tracked it down as being Father's Day, about three days after they arrived. The first call was they got there safe, everything was OK. Then, I got a phone call and a very serious voice -- a voice they didn't recognize, really, as being, you know, it was out of her normal tone.

Bruna says, "David, we need to talk. You're a great guy. You're a wonderful father, but our love affair is ended, is over. I've decided I want to live in Brazil and you need to come down to Brazil immediately and sign 10 pages of papers with my attorney." There was a list of demands on these papers. One was giving her full custody. Another was to never go to the courts to file any claims of kidnapping or criminal charges.

King: Did you get to talk to your son?

Goldman: I got to talk to my son. In fact, I got to speak with all of them in the beginning, while they were still trying to get me to go down there and be trapped in this custody battle. At that point, I wasn't the enemy until I didn't meet her demands and I did go to the courts.

King: Well, when you went (to Brazil), who did you see? What did you do?

Goldman: I went to the courts. I went to every ruling on every court proceeding and with the guise that they would honor the Hague Treaty and return (my) son. And every time, it just got worse and worse.

In the first instance, they kept Sean for over a year before they made this ruling. And then they said, 'Well, you know, yes, he was taken unlawfully and he should have been returned, but now he's settled with the mother. These are Brazilian judges who have admitted that he's been held unlawfully and wrongfully.

King: How did you hear she died?

Goldman: I have friends who, kind of, have an ear to the ground in Brazil, and there were some articles that came out in some local Brazilian newspapers and they did some on the Internet and said she'd passed away.

King: Did you try then to get the child back legally?

Goldman: Yes. As soon as I was notified, I called both counsel in Brazil and in the U.S., and they said it should be over. You know, we have stacks of court records and all these treaties and it's always been about Bruna and David, Bruna and David. There's no more Bruna. By all matters of law, international and national and Brazilian law, no one has a legal claim of custody but the living, biological parent. Go down to Brazil and bring your son home.

King: What happened in court?

Goldman: In this past court, we finally got a visitation ruling. But when I went down the first time to bring my son home, we find out that this man doesn't file custody, but he files to remove my name from a Brazilian birth certificate that they had issued for my son, who was born in Red Bank, New Jersey. And with that, they gave him a provisionary guardianship -- a provisionary.

King: Obviously, he wanted the boy?

Goldman: Obviously.

King: When you were (with him?

Goldman: Oh, he was -- I just saw him this last February for the first time.

King: At eight years old, did he ask you why he's not with you?

Goldman: He asked why I haven't come to see him in all this time. And that was very, very painful -- and the anguish on his face when he asked me that question. And I didn't want to tell him that the situation that I'm not allowed -- that they weren't allowing me, they're holding him. So I just told him that I had been there many times with his grandmother, with his grandfather, with his cousins, with family friends to see him, sometimes staying for up to two weeks and the courts -- it was difficult.

King: How long did you have with him?

Goldman: I saw him for two days a total of about six hours.

King: How did you say goodbye?

Goldman: It was very, very difficult. I just kept telling him the whole time how much I love him, how much I miss him.

King: Did you tell him you were going to try to get him back?

Goldman: No. I told him I'm going to always try to be with him. I don't want him to be put in any type of awkward situation or uncomfortable situation. I just told him I love him, I miss him and everyone at home loves him. And he remembers things at home. We spoke English.

King: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has raised the Goldman case with the Brazilian government. Anything you'd say to her?

Goldman: I'm just -- I'm so grateful and thankful that -- that she's helping me and she knows what's right and sees what's right and she cares about children and parents' rights to be with their own flesh and blood

Eros74
03-05-09, 17:21
What the fucking company is this ?

I went right now to airport to change my return date, it is 13:10 and....the office was closed, cause they open when they have a flight !!!

So in one city of more than 12 million of inhabitants, the only office of national british airline is in airport and open just few hours per day ????

Ok next time I will call for sure, but who could imagine thing like this ?

Wellcome to Brazil one more time I guess.....

P.S. the good thing, I stop a couple of taxis in the street and I was able to negotiate from copa to galeao and back to copa for only 50 reais LOL and it seems to me a real good price :)

P.S.S. I know I can rebook the flight from one agency travel here in copa, but they yesterday told me, they cannot print me the new ticket and I will have to pay it once at airport, so to make long short I do not trust this way too much and by internet, I tried too, did not work.

Pipe Layer99
03-05-09, 18:10
Reservations in Brazil +55 11 4004 4440


Good Luck Amico

Sky Boy
03-06-09, 00:32
Question: Are the flights usually full go to Brazil from the US in early December?

I ask b/c I want to go back there during that time but I usually go during May or June.

Albert Punter
03-06-09, 03:50
Don't blame the britons or the brazilians, in my experience it is quite normal that airway companies offices at airport are only open at time of their flights, not only in this country but in many airports around the world.
Have you tried to make changes through their website ?

As far as printed ticket, do you really need this ?
It is years already I don't travel with a printed ticket.


What the fucking company is this ?

I went right now to airport to change my return date, it is 13:10 and....the office was closed, cause they open when they have a flight !!!

So in one city of more than 12 million of inhabitants, the only office of national british airline is in airport and open just few hours per day ????

Ok next time I will call for sure, but who could imagine thing like this ?

Wellcome to Brazil one more time I guess.....

P.S. the good thing, I stop a couple of taxis in the street and I was able to negotiate from copa to galeao and back to copa for only 50 reais LOL and it seems to me a real good price :)

P.S.S. I know I can rebook the flight from one agency travel here in copa, but they yesterday told me, they cannot print me the new ticket and I will have to pay it once at airport, so to make long short I do not trust this way too much and by internet, I tried too, did not work.

George90
03-06-09, 15:14
Question: Are the flights usually full go to Brazil from the US in early December?

YES!!! VERY FULL!!!!

Many Brazilians living in the US make reservations for Christmas travel to Brazil starting in August and September! This year, 2009, may be slightly different due to the recession/depression that is making air travel unaffordable to many.

Eros74
03-06-09, 21:56
Don't blame the britons or the brazilians, in my experience it is quite normal that airway companies offices at airport are only open at time of their flights, not only in this country but in many airports around the world.
Have you tried to make changes through their website ?

As far as printed ticket, do you really need this ?
It is years already I don't travel with a printed ticket.

Thanks...but neither in far east Russia I had the need of printed ticket and I tried their website immediately, but it wrote I have to go to travel agency, I do not know why.

Madd Love
03-09-09, 00:38
If you never been to Recife, its another spot to go to in Brasil.
Check out the bamboo bar.
Lots of GDP's, beach & weather is great.
They have a disco where some GDP's go for the night.

See photos & video from the website.
You can see a few GDP's, hotel, & area
A nice place to get away from Rio, if you want to see another side of Brazil.

http://www.bamboobar.net/index_en.htm

George90
03-09-09, 01:20
If you never been to Recife, its another spot to go to in Brasil.
Check out the bamboo bar.
Lots of GDP's, beach & weather is great.
They have a disco where some GDP's go for the night.

See photos & video from the website.
You can see a few GDP's, hotel, & area
A nice place to get away from Rio, if you want to see another side of Brazil.

http://www.bamboobar.net/index_en.htm

I am not sure why ML is pushing Bamboo, but it is not exactly what ML is saying it is.

Bamboo is a bar/restaurant with a small disco in the basement. There is no stripping or anything like that. Simply GDPs who hang out and will go with a guy if he wants to for the right price. It is located near a busy square but there is little foot traffic along the street it is on. It is owned by a German guy.

The area in which it is located is undergoing regentrification. Several nearby hotels have been torn down in recent years and new expensive condos are going up in their places. Another bar called Chakatak, which is across the street from Bamboo, is the last building standing out of 4 or 5 on the block. There used to be lots of GDPs hanging out on the beach and the square (Praca de Boa Viagem) but the loss of the hotels has meant the loss of sex tourists so the GDPs are moving to other pastures. Bamboo and Chakatak are no longer choice places to monger.

Sometime last year, there was a killing at Bamboo. A co-owner (or manager) stabbed a biligerent patron. (That is the story I heard.) Patronize it at your own risk.

Madd Love
03-09-09, 02:15
I am not sure why ML is pushing Bamboo, but it is not exactly what ML is saying it is.

Bamboo is a bar/restaurant with a small disco in the basement. There is no stripping or anything like that. Simply GDPs who hang out and will go with a guy if he wants to for the right price. It is located near a busy square but there is little foot traffic along the street it is on. It is owned by a German guy.

The area in which it is located is undergoing regentrification. Several nearby hotels have been torn down in recent years and new expensive condos are going up in their places. Another bar called Chakatak, which is across the street from Bamboo, is the last building standing out of 4 or 5 on the block. There used to be lots of GDPs hanging out on the beach and the square (Praca de Boa Viagem) but the loss of the hotels has meant the loss of sex tourists so the GDPs are moving to other pastures. Bamboo and Chakatak are no longer choice places to monger.

Sometime last year, there was a killing at Bamboo. A co-owner (or manager) stabbed a biligerent patron. (That is the story I heard.) Patronize it at your own risk.


Points above well taken,

I was just offering information for different side of Brazil.
I personally think Rio & Sao Paulo are more dangerous than Recife.
Crime is much higher there on a comparison level.

Each to his own.

And I would recommend going to the Bamboo bar in Recife, for a different side of Brazil, as far as women, people, and location.

Java Man
03-09-09, 04:44
Last year it was reported that Recife was the most dangerous city in Brazil.
"While Rio de Janeiro's bloody drug war makes international headlines, this balmy city of 1.5 million has a homicide rate of 90.9 per 100,000 — more than twice as deadly as Rio, according to the Latin American Technological Network's Map of Violence." Maybe things have gotten better.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/04/25/america/LA-FEA-GEN-Brazil-Killings-in-Recife.php

George90
03-09-09, 17:22
points above well taken,

i was just offering information for different side of brazil.
i personally think rio & sao paulo are more dangerous than recife.
crime is much higher there on a comparison level.

each to his own.

and i would recommend going to the bamboo bar in recife, for a different side of brazil, as far as women, people, and location.

exactly what chingon says!!!

in 2007, recife was the murder capital of brazil. i did not hear that things changed much in 2008. i know people in recife. the deal is that the tourist areas close to the beaches are well patroled by police and the 'riffraff' are kept well at bay. but the interior parts of recife, far from the beaches, are described as an almost lawless area. muggings, [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124), and murders take place without much police investigation. i am told that part of it is the doing of wannabee drug dealers and nascient gangs. it is not quite as bad as the favelas of rio in absolute numbers, but on a per capita basis, the violent crime rate is the tops in brazil.

Madd Love
03-09-09, 23:07
exactly what chingon says!!!

in 2007, recife was the murder capital of brazil. i did not hear that things changed much in 2008. i know people in recife. the deal is that the tourist areas close to the beaches are well patroled by police and the 'riffraff' are kept well at bay. but the interior parts of recife, far from the beaches, are described as an almost lawless area. muggings, [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124), and murders take place without much police investigation. i am told that part of it is the doing of wannabee drug dealers and nascient gangs. it is not quite as bad as the favelas of rio in absolute numbers, but on a per capita basis, the violent crime rate is the tops in brazil.


i am not saying you are wrong about high crime in recife, but rio has the leading crime rate. & if a monger can monger in rio, a monger can go to recife.




the state of rio de janeiro despite a 4% decrease in the number of violent deaths kept its title as murder champion followed by pernambuco state in the brazilian northeast.

http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/7285/54/

rio state, which includes the city of rio de janeiro and outlying areas, is the country's deadliest, with a homicide rate in 2005 of about 62 for every 100,000 residents. the murder rate in the united states was 5.6 per 100,000 people that year.

http://people.eku.edu/davisb/geo100/riocrime.html



geographically, as one might expect, the fear of street crimes is highest in the two mega-cities, rio de janeiro and são paulo and also the northeastern city of recife.

http://www.zonalatina.com/zldata194.htm


http://www.coha.org/new_press_releases/new_press_releases_2004/04.31_brazil%20prison%20riot.htm

http://www.boston.com/news/world/latinamerica/articles/2006/09/25/brazil_murder_rate_similar_to_war_zone_data_shows/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/crime_in_brazil

Java Man
03-10-09, 05:31
I am not saying you are wrong about high crime in Recife, but Rio has the leading crime rate. & if a monger can monger in Rio, a monger can go to Recife.




The state of Rio de Janeiro despite a 4% decrease in the number of violent deaths kept its title as murder champion followed by Pernambuco state in the Brazilian northeast.

http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/7285/54/

Rio state, which includes the city of Rio de Janeiro and outlying areas, is the country's deadliest, with a homicide rate in 2005 of about 62 for every 100,000 residents. The murder rate in the United States was 5.6 per 100,000 people that year.

http://people.eku.edu/davisb/Geo100/riocrime.html



Geographically, as one might expect, the fear of street crimes is highest in the two mega-cities, Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo and also the northeastern city of Recife.

http://www.zonalatina.com/Zldata194.htm


http://www.coha.org/NEW_PRESS_RELEASES/New_Press_Releases_2004/04.31_Brazil%20Prison%20Riot.htm

http://www.boston.com/news/world/latinamerica/articles/2006/09/25/brazil_murder_rate_similar_to_war_zone_data_shows/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_BrazilML only the wikipedia that you sited is current. Everything else is from 2001 to 2007.

Madd Love
03-11-09, 01:38
ML only the wikipedia that you sited is current. Everything else is from 2001 to 2007.


Why are you worried about others, that might want to know about Recife?

Java Man
03-11-09, 05:03
Why are you worried about others, that might want to know about Recife?To quote Alfred E. Neuman, "What me, worry?" (insert gap tooth smile here)
You site old sources in support of your position. Going to Recife, works for you. COOL! But stating that it is safer than Copa, in spite of current reports to the contrary, I find that misleading, IMHO. I clear remember OGlobo reporting last year, that Recife was more dangerous then Rio, based on statistics from the previous year. Unknown yet, if Rio will be #1 again this year. Rio's criminals are doing there best to regain that title. (You see all the latest crime reports?) :D

A better question ML, is why are YOU misleading mongers?

Watchman4400
03-11-09, 05:18
Men,


I live in the Washington DC area and I have noticed that a lot of "ladies" that I use to know in Brazil have been moving to the area. I know that a couple married guys in the area lately. It is pretty cool, I was in the Mall today and ran into a good friend of mine from Brazil that I "know" in the Biblical sense. She told me about 4 other girls that live in the Area. I am going to get together with them next week. I will try and find my old pictures of the ladies and post them.

Brazil is the gift that keeps on giving!

Rio Bob
03-11-09, 18:44
Most of the Copacabana beachfront restaurants are pretty bad. The only one that I've found to be consistently good is Don Camilo's. It's the only place in Rio that I've found that has good fried calamari. Granted, this is not the most refined seafood around, but sometimes I just get a craving for it and this is the place to go for for fried calamari in Rio. All the other dishes I've tried at Don Camilo's have also been well prepared.


Don Camilo was always my favorite restaurant, great food, great atmosphere and a professional staff that I knew very well. Inside they had strolling music at night, very romantic, I always brought my dates here.

This last time in Rio I was with a very nice girl, we went to Za Za Bistro in Ipanema. Upstairs is a very romantic setting if this is what you need. You take your shoes off, sit on the floor with big pillows, candles all over the place, Asian fusion food which was very good. This place was a hit, put my girl in the right mood, I recommend it for a date.

I also went to a place called Praia Vermelha in Flamengo, it is a restaurant basically on the Military grounds and overlooks Sugar Loaf. They have live music going on, it is right on the beach and with that view of Sugar Loaf provides another romantic setting if this is what you're looking for. Food is good, I saw no tourists there except me, I recommend it for a date.

Bravo
03-11-09, 22:16
Men,


I live in the Washington DC area and I have noticed that a lot of "ladies" that I use to know in Brazil have been moving to the area. I know that a couple married guys in the area lately. It is pretty cool, I was in the Mall today and ran into a good friend of mine from Brazil that I "know" in the Biblical sense. She told me about 4 other girls that live in the Area. I am going to get together with them next week. I will try and find my old pictures of the ladies and post them.

Brazil is the gift that keeps on giving!

You should see the large amount of MP/Help girls in Chicago!!! I am sure they blow the population in DC right out of the water!!

Jan 156
03-11-09, 22:22
Don Camilo was always my favorite restaurant
On my list too - haven´t tried it recently.

btw is there a forum that discusses sex? ;) ;)

Rio Bob
03-11-09, 22:57
btw is there a forum that discusses sex? ;) ;)

There used to be a section called Rio De Janeiro reports but seems like it's morphed into a Rio Restaurant review section. Everybody must be getting old, sounds like they rather eat than screw.

Watchman4400
03-11-09, 22:59
Bravo,

I have no arguments with you on this one. I have a friend that is a Chicago Police officer. The interesting thing about the girls in Chicago is 4 of them are married to Chicago Police officers! One of them was shockingly arrested in a prostitution stink in Chicago!


You should see the large amount of MP/Help girls in Chicago!!! I am sure they blow the population in DC right out of the water!!

Madd Love
03-11-09, 23:35
To quote Alfred E. Neuman, "What me, worry?" (insert gap tooth smile here)
You site old sources in support of your position. Going to Recife, works for you. COOL! But stating that it is safer than Copa, in spite of current reports to the contrary, I find that misleading, IMHO. I clear remember OGlobo reporting last year, that Recife was more dangerous then Rio, based on statistics from the previous year. Unknown yet, if Rio will be #1 again this year. Rio's criminals are doing there best to regain that title. (You see all the latest crime reports?) :D

A better question ML, is why are YOU misleading mongers?


All I said was its a different scene and I did not say it was safer.
Recife does has crime, as I have said. Rio has crime too.
What's your point?

Delecti
03-12-09, 04:39
I have been to Rio about a dozen times. But I have never used the metro. So, having read how to get from Copa to near 4x4, I am ready to try it. But, anyone have any advice about the return, noting that the metro closes at 12 midnight on weekdays. Safe? I'm not paranoid, but not stupid either. And I couldn't find this in a search, so please help me out. Oh, speak some Portuguese. Passable but not fluent.

El Austriaco
03-12-09, 05:57
I have been to Rio about a dozen times. But I have never used the metro. So, having read how to get from Copa to near 4x4, I am ready to try it. But, anyone have any advice about the return, noting that the metro closes at 12 midnight on weekdays. Safe? I'm not paranoid, but not stupid either. And I couldn't find this in a search, so please help me out. Oh, speak some Portuguese. Passable but not fluent.
I've taken the metro on several occasions between 10:00 PM and midnight and never had a problem. Walking from 4X4 to the Uruguiana station also wasn't such a big deal, it's not very far, three blocks or something like that, and even late at night, there are tons of people in the street, if you're concerned about that. If you are farther away from a metro station in Centro, like, say, Praca Mauá, I would take a cab rather than walk through the dark side streets. Even in that case, take the cab just to the metro station to save money rather than taking the cab all the way to Copacabana.

Hope this helps, EA

Pure Power
03-12-09, 07:45
I have been to Rio about a dozen times. But I have never used the metro. So, having read how to get from Copa to near 4x4, I am ready to try it. But, anyone have any advice about the return, noting that the metro closes at 12 midnight on weekdays. Safe? I'm not paranoid, but not stupid either. And I couldn't find this in a search, so please help me out. Oh, speak some Portuguese. Passable but not fluent.

Its not bad at all IMO, but I am always aware of my surroundings. The area around there looks like a flea market of some sort, never felt unsafe.

The metro is also very easy to use. Didn't have a problem my first time.

Java Man
03-12-09, 07:54
All I said was its a different scene and I did not say it was safer.
Recife does has crime, as I have said. Rio has crime too.
What's your point?
I personally think Rio & Sao Paulo are more dangerous than Recife.
Crime is much higher there on a comparison level.Anyone have a fork? Time to put this to rest. I agree to disagree.

Exec Talent
03-12-09, 14:40
I am posting this in the General Info area, I hope that is OK with everyone. I posted my other experiences in the Rio Reports section because the information is specific to Rio.

Had a great time last night at Modern Sound on Rua Barata Ribeiro, 502 – D, Copacabana.

http://www.modernsound.com.br/ingles/bistro.asp

The food and drinks were good and fairly priced. The live jazz music performed by the guys below was awesome.

GENTE FINA E OUTRAS COISAS: Ronaldo do Bandolim (shavings), Zé Carlos Bigorna (flutes and sax), Fernando Coelho (guitar), Bebeto Castilho (Eletrict Bass), Jovi Joviniano (percussion).
Wednesday, from 5:00 p.m.to 9:00 p.m.

Nice place to bring a date or go by yourself to kick back and relax.

One thing that was a little strange -- they accept credit cards but you cannot put a tip on there. I found this out when my waitress brought back the credit card receipt and it had the 10% tip deducted. Her service was excellent, so naturally I gave her a cash tip. When I asked the hostess about this she said that they have to wait 30 - 45 days for credit cards to get credited. I find this hard to believe but may be is what they are telling the wait staff.

BTW, I love nothing better than recommending business that do it right. I have bought CDs and DVDs at Modern Sound for many years. They have a good selection, knowledgeable helpful staff and fair prices.

Jake993
03-12-09, 16:50
I am posting this in the General Info area, I hope that is OK with everyone. I posted my other experiences in the Rio Reports section because the information is specific to Rio.

Had a great time last night at Modern Sound on Rua Barata Ribeiro, 502 – D, Copacabana.

http://www.modernsound.com.br/ingles/bistro.asp

The food and drinks were good and fairly priced. The live jazz music performed by the guys below was awesome.

GENTE FINA E OUTRAS COISAS: Ronaldo do Bandolim (shavings), Zé Carlos Bigorna (flutes and sax), Fernando Coelho (guitar), Bebeto Castilho (Eletrict Bass), Jovi Joviniano (percussion).
Wednesday, from 5:00 p.m.to 9:00 p.m.

Nice place to bring a date or go by yourself to kick back and relax.

One thing that was a little strange -- they accept credit cards but you cannot put a tip on there. I found this out when my waitress brought back the credit card receipt and it had the 10% tip deducted. Her service was excellent, so naturally I gave her a cash tip. When I asked the hostess about this she said that they have to wait 30 - 45 days for credit cards to get credited. I find this hard to believe but may be is what they are telling the wait staff.

BTW, I love nothing better than recommending business that do it right. I have bought CDs and DVDs at Modern Sound for many years. They have a good selection, knowledgeable helpful staff and fair prices.I got laid at Modern Sound about a year ago. Well, not AT Modern Sound but I met a girl at MS at one of those Jazz evenings that led to dinner that led to dancing that led to more drinking that led to sex. But yes - there are some gooooood quality local girls that frequent the place. But you had better be able to speak a little Portuguese or they will ignore you despite the fact that most of them speak perfect English.

Madd Love
03-13-09, 00:32
Anyone have a fork? Time to put this to rest. I agree to disagree.

Amigo again?
I still don't see your point

George90
03-13-09, 04:38
I When I asked the hostess about this she said that they have to wait 30 - 45 days for credit cards to get credited. I find this hard to believe but may be is what they are telling the wait staff.

That is true. When businesses make sales using credit cards, they send the credits to the credit card company immediately, but the businesses are NOT sent a check immediately. The credit card company will accumulate a month's worth of charges and send one check at the end of the month to the business. It is analogous to credit card holders making only one payment a month to the credit card company. If a business makes a sale just after the cut-off date, it may very be 45 days later when the check containing the proceeeds of that sale reaches the business.

Lancer520
03-13-09, 04:47
That is true. When businesses make sales using credit cards, they send the credits to the credit card company immediately, but the businesses are NOT sent a check immediately. The credit card company will accumulate a month's worth of charges and send one check at the end of the month to the business. It is analogous to credit card holders making only one payment a month to the credit card company. If a business makes a sale just after the cut-off date, it may very be 45 days later when the check containing the proceeeds of that sale reaches the business.
Unless it is different here in Brazil, which I doubt it is, money that is charged in bars and restaurants get to the restaurant within 72 hours. I know this because I run restaurants. My bet is the true reason they don't want to add the service fee into the bill is because the restaurant has to pay the Visa/Mastercard 3 or 4% surcharge on not only the bill but on the service if it charged to a restaurant. But this is the story they tell there waitstaff so people buy it. I know of restaurant chains in NY that will subtract out the credit card fees on servers tips to recoop some of the money. To me highly unethical. In the US, Amex's fees are even a higher percentage which is why you can't use it in a lot of foreign countries....

George90
03-13-09, 04:56
Unless it is different here in Brazil, which I doubt it is, money that is charged in bars and restaurants get to the restaurant within 72 hours. I know this because I run restaurants. My bet is the true reason they don't want to add the service fee into the bill is because the restaurant has to pay the Visa/Mastercard 3 or 4% surcharge on not only the bill but on the service if it charged to a restaurant. But this is the story they tell there waitstaff so people buy it. I know of restaurant chains in NY that will subtract out the credit card fees on servers tips to recoop some of the money. To me highly unethical. In the US, Amex's fees are even a higher percentage which is why you can't use it in a lot of foreign countries....

The fees angle is a good one.

Lancer520
03-13-09, 05:03
The fees angle is a good one.
You just hit on a topic I'm very familiar with in the states. The higher the volume in CC sales you do, the lower your percentage fees with Visa/MC. For example a restaurant like say TGI Friday's might only pay 2.2% fees because there entire deal is negotiated together where Mom and Pop restaurant could pay almost 5% in CC transactions fees. It sucks but Visa, MC, AMEX have a monopoly. Poor Discover can't even compete with the big boys.

One Eyed Man
03-13-09, 16:17
they accept credit cards but you cannot put a tip on there. I found this out when my waitress brought back the credit card receipt and it had the 10% tip deducted. Her service was excellent, so naturally I gave her a cash tip. When I asked the hostess about this she said that they have to wait 30 - 45 days for credit cards to get credited. I find this hard to believe but may be is what they are telling the wait staff.

At least in the US, tips put on credit cards go into the waitperson's paycheck---AND ARE TAXED. Cash tips, however, can be pocketed and avoid the tax man (although the IRS is wise to this and closely watches people in tip-rich jobs.) I know of one restaurant (unsurprisingly a German one) that included a request in the tip envelope to pay all tips in cash.

Lancer520
03-13-09, 16:55
At least in the US, tips put on credit cards go into the waitperson's paycheck---AND ARE TAXED. Cash tips, however, can be pocketed and avoid the tax man (although the IRS is wise to this and closely watches people in tip-rich jobs.) I know of one restaurant (unsurprisingly a German one) that included a request in the tip envelope to pay all tips in cash.
In the US, some restaurants are going to systems where the servers get all of there money in a paycheck at the end of the week. Some restaurants do what you are saying and let them keep there cash tips and pay there CC tips to them in the form of a paycheck. However, 90% of restaurants still pay all the tips both cash and credit card to them at the end of the night. Mr IRS has become very wise to the hiding of server tips. If they are audited now a days, the IRS looks at there gross sales for let's say the year, finds out what percentages they tip out to other support staff(bartenders, bussers, food runners, etc) then uses an average and figures out what amount of taxes they should be paying. So if a server did $500,000 in sales for the year and the IRS assume an average of 15% tips that would leave $75,000 in tips. If the restaurant requires the server to pay out 5% in tip out to the support staff, then the IRS assumes they made aprox. $50,000. My point being, in the old days you could, but now you can't hide the cash tips from the taxman. Totally off the board subject but maybe some info you mongers didn't know.

Exec Talent
03-15-09, 01:16
I hope this information helps someone.

I am lucky in that I do not have to be anywhere at any certain time. As a result, I often pay airline change fees. Recently I made a change to my travel from Rio to the US. In addition to the outrageous $250 change fee three separate US phone agents wanted to charge me over $350 because of a fare increase.

Wrong answer. The right answer is if the same class of service is available there is no additional charge, just the change fee. Finally got through to a supervisor who apologized and made the change.

I know there are a lot of airline employees who frequent this site, but as a frequent flier I will tell you that lately more times than not, airline employees on the ground get it wrong. Those in the air usually are great.

Bravo
03-15-09, 23:03
Does anyone know how to set the Orkut scraps to private, so that your own friends can not see other people's messages? I have seen some girls pages where you can enter their scraps, but you cant read what anyone else has written. I need this function because i keep getting busted by my main girl when all these GDPS leave these sexy scraps. THX fellas

Ryjerrob
03-16-09, 03:30
Does anyone know how to set the Orkut scraps to private, so that your own friends can not see other people's messages? I have seen some girls pages where you can enter their scraps, but you cant read what anyone else has written. I need this function because i keep getting busted by my main girl when all these GDPS leave these sexy scraps. THX fellas

Damn.........you gotta be a little more smooth with Orkut. A quick suggestion, you might want to delete your actual account and start over. Have one for everyone, and then one for GDP's. Many a mongerer has got caught this same way, and I'm speaking from personal experience.

Once logged in, from your home screen, click on scrap under the profile link. Next, on the opposite side of the frame where it shows how many scraps you actually have, click on the change settings link. From there go to the bottom of the screen, and you are given 3 options for what you were asking.

only my friends
friends of friends
everyone

Only options available.....................good luck

ryjer

Bravo
03-16-09, 03:55
Damn.........you gotta be a little more smooth with Orkut. A quick suggestion, you might want to delete your actual account and start over. Have one for everyone, and then one for GDP's. Many a mongerer has got caught this same way, and I'm speaking from personal experience.

Once logged in, from your home screen, click on scrap under the profile link. Next, on the opposite side of the frame where it shows how many scraps you actually have, click on the change settings link. From there go to the bottom of the screen, and you are given 3 options for what you were asking.

only my friends
friends of friends
everyone

Only options available.....................good luck

ryjer

Thank you for the help, but this wasnt what I was talking about. In orkut, you have the ability to set your scraps, so that even your own friends can not read anything in your scrap book that is over 12 hours old. I know two GDPS who have thier Orkut set up this way. (Unfortunately, I have not been able to reach them to ask how they set it up)

Madd Love
03-16-09, 04:57
Checkout the new ORKUT

http://www.orkutsexy.com.br/

David68
03-16-09, 10:08
Super deal if you are active duty military. I called the Marriot in Rio and reserved 2 days for a total of $117. Now if I can only get my chicks to the room.

http://www.marriott.com/specials/govtmil/default.mi

Scroll down to "Leisure travel & Special offers"

Cho 637
03-20-09, 01:56
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,52639,00.html

http://www.aa.com/aa/viewPromotionDetails.do?itemDescriptor=PromotionContent&fileName=A0309_EliteDouble.xml&type=AAdvantageSpecialOffers&anchorLocation=Navigation+Menu&url=A0309_EliteDouble.xml&_locale=en_US&repositoryName=PromotionContentRepository&repositoryId=16119429

Here are two links from United and American for Double Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) for those who plan to fly in the near future.

Madd Love
03-23-09, 03:39
What American men think of American woman & foreign woman.

Here is a brief extrapolation of the article.


Statement #1

"Lots of American women b*tch about American men dating foreigners. You want to know why? Because YOU SUCK. You are a pain in the ass. Period. Foreign women are easy to deal with. Having dated Europeans and Latina's, they are infinitely easier to deal with than American women. They just accept you for being a man. I hear lots of women say foreign women are pushovers - its the furthest thing from the truth"

Statement #2

"After many many years of dealing with American women, I've hit an interesting point. I've lost ALL sexual interest in them, in fact I just about puke walking down the sidewalk on any day, seeing all those shitty, rude, mean, snotty American women."



I just want to know if you fellas feel the same about American woman.

See the complete article here

http://www.nomarriage.com/fd.html


Here is another stat:
Not sure how true it is...

Why is this case? American men who marry American woman have a divorce rate of 60% to 80 %. American men who marry foreign woman have a divorce rate of 20%

Lorenzo
03-23-09, 03:46
I just want to know if you fellas feel the same about American woman.
Ditto. But there are always exceptions.

But why are you posting this here? This thread is about Brazil. There is another thread that deals with American women.

Madd Love
03-23-09, 03:48
Ditto. But there are always exceptions.

But why are you posting this here? This thread is about Brazil. There is another thread that deals with American women.


Sorry Lorenzo,

Hitmanm3
03-26-09, 20:00
Going to Brazil in may, after all the hype I have read, where should I start? JUST GOT DIVORCED AND NEED SOME THERAPY, if you know what I mean. I will be there for about 14 days and I know I will be returning sooner than later. First what should I download to get my instincts pointed in the wright direction and I do speak Portuguese fluently, after a year of learning, so language will not be a problem. So please help me out. Want to hit termas like 4x4. Guide me so that I can maximize my stay.

Thanx fellow monglers

Koolkid
03-26-09, 21:02
Going to Brazil in may, after all the hype I have read, where should I start? JUST GOT DIVORCED AND NEED SOME THERAPY, if you know what I mean. I will be there for about 14 days and I know I will be returning sooner than later. First what should I download to get my instincts pointed in the wright direction and I do speak Portuguese fluently, after a year of learning, so language will not be a problem. So please help me out. Want to hit termas like 4x4. Guide me so that I can maximize my stay.

Thanx fellow monglers

I'll be there in may and don't speak any portuguese lol so pm me if you want to meet up and hit the termas.

El Austriaco
03-26-09, 21:32
First what should I download to get my instincts pointed in the wright direction and I do speak Portuguese fluently, after a year of learning, so language will not be a problem.

Bubba's Guide (2007). Everything you need to know, and then some:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=565336&postcount=46

Sperto's Guide to Casas De Massagem And Termas In Centro, R$ 10-85. Updated March 2008!

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=743611&postcount=6005

Rio Maps:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=572217&postcount=61

Rio Metro (unfortunately, site only seems to be available in Portuguese right now):

http://www.metrorio.com.br/

Report of Distinctions:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2008

If you have any questions after going through all of this, just ask :)

Hope this helps,

EA

Sunset Strip
03-27-09, 08:08
Going to Brazil in may, after all the hype I have read, where should I start? JUST GOT DIVORCED AND NEED SOME THERAPY, if you know what I mean. I will be there for about 14 days and I know I will be returning sooner than later. First what should I download to get my instincts pointed in the wright direction and I do speak Portuguese fluently, after a year of learning, so language will not be a problem. So please help me out. Want to hit termas like 4x4. Guide me so that I can maximize my stay.

Thanx fellow monglers
First off just relax. You are now divorced and the worst is over! Now that you have made Rio your playground you have turned a 180 and now have it made! Trust me, if you just chill out and keep coming back your life will be much better. Praise God for what he has done for you!

Where are you staying? You should get an apartment. Check the apartment thread for good sites.

Go to Luomo.com.br to get directions to this therma.
Also, hang out at Meia Pataca and visit Help Disco, if it is still open, to meet girls. But trust me, meeting girls will be the least of your worries.
Like most of us you will actually have to fight them off in RIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since Porto is no problem you can actually hang out in the lower cost centro therma/casas and pull a sweetie.
But then again Copacabana is the place to stay and you always want one girl there to showcase!

Trust me, this is so much fun!!!!!!!!!!
TJ

Ryjerrob
03-28-09, 05:34
[QUOTE=David68]Super deal if you are active duty military. I called the Marriot in Rio and reserved 2 days for a total of $117. Now if I can only get my chicks to the room.

http://www.marriott.com/specials/govtmil/default.mi

Scroll down to "Leisure travel & Special offers"[/QUOTE

I'm gonna to try this. I actually had the info for using the employee discount from a friend, from a couple of years ago. He's always insisted that I use his discount, but never thought about saying at the Rio Marriott before.

I have this sweet piece who's a nurse, and wants to spend a week with me. Why not take here to the Marriott (registered), and do my other stuff on the side in Centro/VM/Termas.

ryjer

Sunset Strip
03-28-09, 15:27
Last Novemeber I posted about my then Brazilian apartment guy and how he told a girl I had shown him her pictures. In reality, he accidently saw 2 pictures of her when I let him look at a CD with pictures of his apartment he had rented me last time. He fast forwarded before I could snatch the DVD player from him.

Anyway, some guys on here began chiming in about how Brazilians probably consider me lower on the social scale (haha), the usual strange banter you get on this forum at times.

Now I found out that during Carnaval this guy approached this same girl in Mabs with some white guys and they claimed they had seen her pictures on the internet and knew ME (they gave my real name, which is odd given we use screen names on here, plus I have not posted her pictures anyway).

SHe said she knew it was BS.

Here is the proof:
Later this guy tried to extort money from her claiming he had set up a date for her (I am not sure whether she meant the same white guys or not). I think he is implying that he knows where the pictures are on the internet and will tell her family.

She was really angry and said she now believes everything I said about the pictures in the beginning. Plus she said this apartment guy is the typical carioca--he comes down from the favela and makes his living off others (she said this).

So much for the high lifestyle in Rio!

So in the end most of my "gringo" observations of the situation were correct and those who made wild claims and wrote long posts about the Brazilian social order were well off track. In the end the cream always rises to top. This so-called "high class" Brazilian proved his true worth and even the girl criticized him, not me.


TJ

Dwilso39
03-28-09, 15:59
Last Novemeber I posted about my then Brazilian apartment guy and how he told a girl I had shown him her pictures. In reality, he accidently saw 2 pictures of her when I let him look at a CD with pictures of his apartment he had rented me last time. He fast forwarded before I could snatch the DVD player from him.

Anyway, some guys on here began chiming in about how Brazilians probably consider me lower on the social scale (haha), the usual strange banter you get on this forum at times.

Now I found out that during Carnaval this guy approached this same girl in Mabs with some white guys and they claimed they had seen her pictures on the internet and knew ME (they gave my real name, which is odd given we use screen names on here, plus I have not posted her pictures anyway).

SHe said she knew it was BS.

Here is the proof:
Later this guy tried to extort money from her claiming he had set up a date for her (I am not sure whether she meant the same white guys or not). I think he is implying that he knows where the pictures are on the internet and will tell her family.

She was really angry and said she now believes everything I said about the pictures in the beginning. Plus she said this apartment guy is the typical carioca--he comes down from the favela and makes his living off others (she said this).

So much for the high lifestyle in Rio!

So in the end most of my "gringo" observations of the situation were correct and those who made wild claims and wrote long posts about the Brazilian social order were well off track. In the end the cream always rises to top. This so-called "high class" Brazilian proved his true worth and even the girl criticized him, not me.


TJ

TJ:
One question: is this just a coincedence that the guy knows the girls family? Seems kinda random if they are not from the same neighborhood.

And even if he did tell her family, she could just denie it as say, "he's made becuase I wouldn't date him so he is spreading lies about me".

All-in-all, I think a lot of girls families have "some" idea of what they are doing but they don't want to face the facts; probably too painful to think of one's little girl on the street hoeing. I

Short story: I'm "dating" one girl from Niteroi that I meet on my last trip. She took me to her house to I met her mom. Before we got to the house, she told me her mother thinks she works baby sitting in Copa, and she has to sometimes spend the night at the families house. And what ever I do, don't call her by here working name!

Well the mom was real cool, but the more I sat there and talked to her, the more I was convinece that the mom had some idea what she did. Afterall, it's no secert that prositiution is legal, and that many girls don't or can't find other jobs.

The mom was kinda flirting with me too; or maybe I just was being full of myself. But she did go take a shower and then walked right in front of me with just her towel on when was going from the Bathroom of the bedroom.

One other thing that was interesting was her mom gave me the whole "what are you intentions for my daugher talk". Not the usual America dad way, buy she asked a lot of questions about what I do; do I have any kids; have I ever been married; do I have car and house in America.

So TJ, just keep doing thing in a respectful and honest way and most of the time they work themselves out.

Bravo
03-28-09, 21:04
TJ Fannatic, why dont you post this brasilian guy's picture and name on the board, so we can all know who he is. Your post serves as a great warning. THX

Sunset Strip
03-29-09, 00:13
TJ Fannatic, why dont you post this brasilian guy's picture and name on the board, so we can all know who he is. Your post serves as a great warning. THX
Damn good idea! I never thought of that, but since he likes to talk about posting pictures it will serve him right.
thanks,
TJ

Sunset Strip
03-29-09, 00:22
Dwilso39,

Both he and she are well known at Mabs. He has been renting apartments from Mabs for years.

She does not believe he has her family info. either. She told me thar she told him to "f-off," and to tell them if he really has some pictures.

On other points, I have been invited to her family house and her Copa apartment. Plus, I have her family phone number.
I, like you, am always respectful and the girls, in turn, respect this.


TJ

Smderry
03-30-09, 10:39
Just returned from 2 months in the Dominican Republic. Had a blast! I am looking to take my next trip to Brazil. Love the latin women. I was wondering what was the best city to visit? Are there monger catering resorts, hotels, Charli's type all inclusives, or is more of a get a hotel and fend for yourself. If it is more of the fend for yourself type atmosphere, my primary questions of where to stay, what clubs / areas to visit are I guess more proper.

Pana Nyc
03-31-09, 00:23
Are the Termas in Rio closed for easter weekend? Im thinking of making a quick trip to Rio and if the Termas are closed on Easter weekend on Friday and Saturday there is no point for me to make a trip out there. I can use Easter Sunday to rest before I go home the next day.

Prosal
04-02-09, 09:38
Great site.

Some 1800 radios all around the world, and some 600 for only Brasil.

http://www.radios.com.br/novo/estados.htm

Lonzof
04-04-09, 03:00
Guys,

I need some advise... I'm looking to purchase American movies, tv shows, etc that have portuguese subtitles. My satellite provider does not have portuguese as a closed captio option. Thought this would be a good way to further immerse myself in the language. I also have pimsleur and roseta stone. Any ideas where to purchase in the US.



Lonzof

Flexinbk
04-04-09, 03:50
Guys,

I need some advise... I'm looking to purchase American movies, tv shows, etc that have portuguese subtitles. My satellite provider does not have portuguese as a closed captio option. Thought this would be a good way to further immerse myself in the language. I also have pimsleur and roseta stone. Any ideas where to purchase in the US.



Lonzof

If you have a blue-ray player, you'll have a greater selection of movies to choose from, and in addition to the subtitles, you can also select Portuguese audio, which btw is halfway decent in terms of translation.

Lonzof
04-04-09, 15:26
If you have a blue-ray player, you'll have a greater selection of movies to choose from, and in addition to the subtitles, you can also select Portuguese audio, which btw is halfway decent in terms of translation.

Thanx Flexinbk but where can I make the purchase.

Lonzo

Neverenuff
04-05-09, 19:46
what do they mean when they say an apartment does not have wi-fi but it has high speed cable internet? what kind of cable do i need? is it an rj-45 jack? or a phone line modem?

Koolkid
04-06-09, 20:57
I work-out 5 days a week and would like
to train when I'm in Rio. I use whey protein and
creatine powders as my post work out suppliments.

I would like to bring this with me. It will be sealed
and packaged straight from the manufactuer (enough for 2 weeks).

Am I allowed to bring this into the country? what are the
chances of customs checking my suitcase? Should I declare it?

Also is it widley available in the gyms out there?

Some countries have different laws on this and I just
wanted to check before hand.

Thanks alot

Musze3000
04-06-09, 21:32
I work-out 5 days a week and would like to train when I'm in Rio. I use whey protein and creatine powders as my post work out suppliments.

I would like to bring this with me. It will be sealed and packaged straight from the manufactuer (enough for 2 weeks).

Am I allowed to bring this into the country? What are the chances of customs checking my suitcase? Should I declare it?

Also is it widley available in the gyms out there?

Some countries have different laws on this and I just wanted to check before hand.

Thanks alotKool.- I brought in my whey and super greens with no problems, I did however put it in my carry on and everyone was ok with it as long as it's powder. I would not trust trying any of this stuff from down there as things tend to be a bit different and I try to do anything to avoid stomach problems while I'm down there (having the runs in Rio is not fun) so I would stick with your own supps!

Musze

Neverenuff
04-06-09, 22:08
I work-out 5 days a week and would like to train when I'm in Rio. I use whey protein and creatine powders as my post work out suppliments.

I would like to bring this with me. It will be sealed and packaged straight from the manufactuer (enough for 2 weeks).

Thanks alotI've been doing tons of reading. Lonely Planet's guidebook mentions a few gyms out there in Rio you can use. Brazilians seem to be very into sports and fitness. I'd imagine the protein/creatine stuff should be easily available out there. I'm planning on using Body Tech gym in Leblon and also taking ju jitsu lessons at Gracie and maybe some capoeira lessons.

Rio Bob
04-06-09, 22:33
what do they mean when they say an apartment does not have wi-fi but it has high speed cable internet? what kind of cable do i need? is it an rj-45 jack? or a phone line modem?


it's a network cable - rj-45. the last time i was in rio i turned on my laptop to look for a wi-fi signal. there were several in the building but they were all locked. so i pulled out my network cable and went searching for a cable modem and found one. connected the cable to my laptop and modem and i was in business, same as home, i use the same cable rather than wifi because it is faster.

Pipe Layer99
04-06-09, 23:17
I work-out 5 days a week and would like
to train when I'm in Rio. I use whey protein and
creatine powders as my post work out suppliments.
I would like to bring this with me. It will be sealed
and packaged straight from the manufactuer (enough for 2 weeks).
Am I allowed to bring this into the country? what are the
chances of customs checking my suitcase? Should I declare it?
Also is it widley available in the gyms out there?
Some countries have different laws on this and I just
wanted to check before hand.
Thanks alot

You can bring your own sups and not worry about customs. The items you mentioned are legal. As far as declaring it, read the declaration sheet when you are on the plane to make that determination. Either way, you won't have a problem - its not illegal to take protein and creatine.
or
You can get the supplements you need in Rio (more room in your suitcase). There are a few health stores that sell supplements on N.S. Copacabana.
Plus on most corners there are food and juice places. They can mix you a protien drink right there on the spot. I bet the gyms even sell the stuff too.

Jan 156
04-07-09, 02:27
I work-out 5 days a week and would like
to train when I'm in Rio. I use whey protein and
creatine powders as my post work out suppliments.

Also is it widley available in the gyms out there?


In case it helps, I've tried two different ones bought in Rio recently. As you might expect, ones made in S.A. are quite cheap and ones imported are expensive (but not prohibitively). Two is hardly enough to generalise and you may have more experience of analysing supplements than myself - I've only been using them for just over 6 months. I do like stuff that dissolves easily using a shaker, and the Brasilian one I bought didn't dissolve as well as the high-tech imported one. You might want to bring enough of your favourite brands to keep you going while you check out local availability. There are many shops in Centro offering a wide range of supplements, including specialist shops (I used one on Uruguiana). Or there's shops in Copa too. The suco bars will do a basic mix (cheap but overpriced).

Albert Punter
04-07-09, 03:40
it is a rj-45 cable.
try to bring your own, as here in brazil in some hotels/apartments you only find the plug but not the cable, and when you go downstairs asking for it they don't give it for free but sell it to you.


what do they mean when they say an apartment does not have wi-fi but it has high speed cable internet? what kind of cable do i need? is it an rj-45 jack? or a phone line modem?

Koolkid
04-07-09, 07:29
Thanks for all your advice. I'm going to bring my own.

Ryjerrob
04-08-09, 17:43
I know we talked about this in the not so distant past, but anyone know anything about JW Blue in the duty free stores? I checked out the link, but no luck.

ryjer


DISREGARD..............found it.

Mr Enternational
05-02-09, 22:30
I was in Lima last week and my enamorada peruana told me about a book signing that she had gone to for an ex GDP, Vanessa de Oliveira, from Brazil. The name of the book in English is, "100 Secrets of a Hooker: Everything That You Wanted to Know About Men, Sex, and the Profession." I know there are Spanish and Portuguese versions of the book, but I'm not sure if there is an English one. Anyway here is that chick's website.

http://vanessadeoliveira.********.com/

Sperto
05-02-09, 23:23
...Anyway here is that chick's website.
http://vanessadeoliveira.********.com/
******** is "b l o g s p o t" (without spaces).

Exec Talent
05-02-09, 23:32
I know we talked about this in the not so distant past, but anyone know anything about JW Blue in the duty free stores? I checked out the link, but no luck.

ryjer


DISREGARD..............found it.
While on the Delta flight, I bought a bottle as a gift for a Brazilian friend. It was USD 155. Funny thing is there was only one and another guy offered me a premium if I would sell it to him.

BTW, I was around when he opened it. Wasted on my palate.

Koolkid
05-03-09, 11:14
Hi

Just wondering if there are shops selling the copy sunglasses
in copa. I don't want to bring my originals so was going to buy
some copy designer brands when I get there.

Also are there shops along copacabana beach selling the fake stuff
like there is in thailand?

Thanks