Sao Paulo Reports

[Fashion]

Good job and in details! THANK YOU, it was fun.

Fashion


Arrive at Hotel after long trip, ideally would like to have a good cum and go right to sleep, but I know it is important to stay up until the night time. First step is to call a few adds I had researched tried three different girls but none spoke English and my Portuguese isn't good enough to communicate the deal. I need to practice for a few days.

So I give up on that idea, shower change cloths and head into the office. The person assigned to me gives me my schedule and they have plans for me on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thrusday nights. That will leave limited time (only Monday and Friday) for girls or I won't be getting any sleep (bad idea at my age), perhaps I can sneak out for a few hours during the day.

Work until 8:00 p. M, don't get too much done as having trouble concentrating because tired from the flight and need to get rid of some sperm. Head to the hotel, change money in Reais, and decide the best thing to do is start with Café Photo. I know it early but my hope is to quickly grab a girl, get back to the hotel, cum all over her, and relax into a nice deep sleep.

Ideal girl will have small firm real breasts, tight thin athletic body, be between 18 – 21 years old, be willing to do let me watch her masturbate, have all three options available and finish by cumming on her face.

Arrive at Café Photo before 9:00, I worried they may not be open yet. Paid the 190 entrance fee and collected my 4 drink tickets. I decided to have a coke and get some caffeine into me as I beginning to feel seriously tired. I sit down a table in the corner and it seem there are only five girls working at this early hour. None look particularly young and 4 of the 5 have obviously large fake breasts. The one who might have natural breasts does have a nice hot body, so I agree to sit with her and she gets a drink.

First Julie tells me she is 25, but when I give her a strange look she says 27, that is quite a bit older than I was hoping for, but I am more interested in her body type than her age. And I figure I can always look for younger women later. I have learned that what ever age she tells you it is best to add five years to get to her real age.

We talk for a little bit, she knows some English and I am doing much better in Portuguese face to face than over the phone. I travel with a pocket dictionary and small credit card light. It is a good thing because it is really dark in here.

After we get through I like her, she likes me, she says we should go to my hotel. She wants 500 Reias, this seems like a lot to me, so I say no, too much, and she says that is what everyone will charge. So I say ok, thanks but I can't afford it. So she gets up and leaves. About 10 minutes later she back and says ok 400 Reias. Well this still sounds like a lot to me, but I am really ready to get some sexual relief so I say ok, but I know it is much better to clarify everything now rather than at the hotel. And for 400 Reias she should be amazing and completely satisfy me.

So we go through the questions:

Are her breast real or fake – Real

Will she let me watch her masturbate – Yes

Does she have all three options available – No Anal, I suppose this should have been a deal breaker for me but I think I can skip that, if she will do a nice long blowjob ending with a facial.

Will she let me cum on her face – No only on her tits. I say for 400 it must be on the face and she says no, she doesn't do that. So I say ok and say thanks and send her on her way.

This entire negotiation took about about 1 hour. There are maybe 5 more girls in the bar bringing the number up to 10. Again, they all look kind of old and all have these large fake breasts. There again seems to be one girl with small natural breasts so I call her over. We go through the same exercise with Erica as with Julie, except she doesn't speak any English. The good news is I am convinced her breasts are real, it was hard to tell with the Julie, the bad new is she claims she is 30. While sitting with her, I can see her stomach curves outward instead of inward. This was not apparent when she was standing. Well my stomach curves outward also and I suppose I can get past this for a night. So we finally get to price and she also wants 500 Reias, at which point I say too much and she says she can't go any lower. So she gets up and leaves before I even can get to the other questions.

Another hour has elapsed and a band has started playing, and it is getting crowded. The girls also substantially out number the boys. And all the tables are full, I would be worried if I came in now, I would not be able to sit at a table. I wouldn't like that at all. As I look around the room the biggest complaints I have are 80% of the girls have large chests. For you big breast guys you might love this place. The majority of those girls breasts are fake. So that is a big turn off for me. I would also say the age level of the girls seems to be late 20s or early 30s. There are some obviously hot young girls in there, but they seem to be grabbed by a guy right away. I am trying to find one of these girls to join me.

Eventually I see a girl with normal sized breasts and a nice body and motion her my way. Angela sits down and we repeat the whole exercise. She knows more English than the Erica, but not close to the level of Julie. Anyway I am enjoying learning some Portuguese. She claims she is 24 years old. She also starts at 500 Reias, and when I say no she immediately goes to 400, so I start on my list of questions.

Are her breast real or fake – Real

Will she let me watch her masturbate – Yes

Does she have all three options available – Yes

Will she let me cum on her face – Very clear not in her mouth but on her face is ok.

So we get in her car and drive to the Hotel. She smokes the whole way there, which is not a big deal, but a small turn off for me. At the hotel they copy her license and she can come up to my room. She starts with a shower, and when she takes her top off her breasts don't look right me, they kind of have an unnatural shape to them. So I ask her again if her breasts are real or fake. And she says real, so I reach out and grab one and I say no. She says ok, they are fake. I suppose I should of kicked her out right then, but I didn't want to go back out and I was really ready to cum and get some sleep. So I decide I can over look her fake breasts for the night, but that was a major turn off for me.

After my shower, I tell Angela I want to watch her masturbate. She says she likes when people watch her, so she does a really good masturbation show. She has her own lube which she uses generously. Next we move off the bed to the couch and it is time for a blowjob. She brought a chocolate condom with her for that. Nice touch. Again this is a really good blowjob, although I was trying to get her to look at me while she did it, but she was all about concentrating on what she was doing. She has obviously done this before, I am seriously thinking of just laying back and finishing during the blowjob. Then she stops for moment and goes to climb on cowgirl, but I don't like looking at her breasts so spin her around and have her do reverse cowgirl. This a is also good, she has a nice tight pussy. Then with a couple of squeezes she has me over the edge before I have chance to get in her ass. So I quickly push her off, take off the condom and put my dick next to her cheek. Right before I cum she dips her head down so her mouth moves farther way from me, and my dick is right about where her forehead and her cheek meet near her eye. I totally unload on her. The top part of her face is completely covered in cum. She sits there bent over for about 30 seconds as we both watch the cum drip off her face onto the floor. Finally she goes and cleans up and takes another shower. I guess quite a bit got in her eye and she is having trouble getting it out and her eye is very red now. I apologize to her and say that wouldn't have happened if she wouldn't have moved, but she says it is ok. When she is leaving she gives me her number and says that she thought I wanted to do anal, and if I still want her ass I should call her to come back later in the week. She gives me a kiss good bye and says her ass is really tight and I would like it. A nice way to end the night as I finally get that really good sleep.

In all it was a generally good experience. We had a good connection. Blowjob, pussy and cum on face were all really good. She had a nice body but not a smoking hot body, I will try for better next time. The fake breasts where a major turn off. I am unclear if I am going to call her or not.

[Voyajer1]

I arrived in Sao Paolo a few days ago and it has been raining cats and dogs. The sun did not make an appearance until the 4th day since I arrived. Despite it all, there were some really great times to be had.
Day One
Arrived and there was no one in the customs area but me! The plane was that empty. I cruised right through and went to the hotel. After I dropped my bags, I went to Nova Maison on Rua Augusta in search of one of my favorites: Flavia. As usual, great service provided by her, she is a very nice petite gal. Here is the session by the numbers: Flavia (Nova Maison): 5’3”, 34B, 25, 37, 31 yeas old, 110lbs, morena, brunette, BR100 for her, BR25 for the room, BR10 for entrance, total BR135
Day Two
Not a whole lot of places have been up and running because they were in the middle of the New Year’s holiday. However, I did find one place that was opened and I decided to give them a try: Clinica American Center. This place is relatively easy to find if you know how to use the Metro. If you take the green or blue lines, you need to get off the Paraiso station. You then need to find Rua Vergeiro exit. Once there, as you face the street, turn right. The next light should be Rua Paraiso. The address to the American Center is Rua Paraiso, 642. They make it easy to find; the house is white, the number is in Red tile numbers about 1 meter each number. You can’t miss it. In addition, you are walking downhill on Paraiso, pretty steep once you get going. Anyway, got there, there were two available gals and I chose Bruna : 5’3”, 32A, 23, 36, 20 years old, 100lbs, morena, fake blonde. I had a good time with here, the session was more than adequate, I love gals with nice bubble butts, especially on such a small girl. Total damage: BR110
Day Three
I went back to my old standby place, Nova Maison. When I first arrived, I was the only dude there, with about 12 or so ladies circling like sharks. Since day one, I had my eye on this girl, Amanda: Amanda (Nova Maison): 5’1”, 34B, 24, 38, 110lbs, 26 years old, Bahiana, morena, brunnete, perfect tan lines (I am a big sucker for those deep tan lines!), and serious bubble butt to boot. Anyway, spoke to her for a while, got a good vibe about her, so I decided to session with her. She is very animated, very attentive; however, this girl either had no kegel experience whatsoever or she was King Kong’s girl friend she was that loose down there. First time for everything! Anyway, the session was decent and I managed to be taken care of with her unending energy. Total damage: BR125 for her, BR25 for room, BR10 for entrance for a total of BR150.
Day Four
I decided to go to one of my old favorite places before the rain resumed: Clinica Shori http://www.clinicashori.com.br/. I love that place, I’ve never had a bad session. Anyway, after the parade of beauties, I chose this morena called Samira: 5’4”, 34 B/C, 23, 36, 100lbs, 24 years old, Bahiana, mulata, brunnete, the best body I’ve seen since I’ve been here. She is at least a 9. There are some times when the stars are aligned and everything goes well beyond expectations; this was definitely one of those times. She got me off 3 times in less than 45 minutes and wanted more, however, I was too drained to continue. She kept trying to revive me to no avail, so instead I got a deep tissue back rub from her with the time remaining and some cuddling after she finished that. I can’t wait to return here, however it will be some time before that happens. Total damage: BR120

[Kali22]

From Medellin report thread:


I have found Brazil, particularly Sao Paulo, to be the BEST and easiest place I have ever been to meet NON-pros.I think you came to the same conclusion as the guy in the post. He's now living in Rio.

http://www.rooshv.com/colombia-analysis

In my opinion though Rio has too many sex tourists and it's not so easy to mingle with the middle-working class there because of that. I'm pretty sure São Paulo is the best choice in Brazil in terms of variety of girls, experiences and nightlife (but the p4p seems very expensive)

In fact everything seems now very expensive in Brazil: taxis, food, etc, especially as compared to Colombia.

And I heard the street jams are crazy down there.

How much would a small furnished apartment in a cool neighborhood cost nowadays in São Paulo?

Ricker, could you please elaborate a bit on how you live down there? Furnished apartment? Hotel? Which area you prefer to live and meet non-pro girls? I'm very interested to visit one day.

[Palmisano]

The name of the new club is TOUCH CAFE

http://www.Touchcafe. Com. Br/

And it's located in São José dos Campos

From the reports posted on the national forums the club in itself is nice but it's a little bit expensive for the quality and the number of the girls that are working there. I think that we can deduce that it doesn't worth a trip from São Paulo. Actually, it seems that there, s better venues in Sampa. In toher words, it's not the BAHAMAS not even an imitation of it.

NB: I've never been there myselfTouchcafe is the "new" luxurious club. Many people come from Sao Paulo to go there, but really the rich, mostly with helicopter (the club has its own heli-station). Also Sao Jose has many rich people (one of the richest Brazilian cities). Basically, it is nothing that would make it really worth going there compared to other, much cheaper high-end clubs in Sao Paulo, except if you don't want to be with the "normal folks", it is simply the price that keeps the rich isolated from the rest. I just have been there once when it was quite new and the drinks and entrance were more expensive than in similar clubs in Europe or US (don't remember the exact prices any more).


What a bargain! Only about 800R or close to $500 US for one girl, one night.

I'm sure glad I'm good at finding gems about the city for much less or for nothing.

As always, to each his own.I wouldn't say that this is a bargain. You can find plenty of escorts in SP for R$ 300 / night. The ones with websites are more difficult, but if you go to the local newspapers I would say that almost 50% of the "real freelancers" will charge only R$300. The problem is that you need to speak enough Portuguese to communicate with them. The worse your Portuguese is, the more many will charge you. But if you just try long enough, you will find one as there are plenty of really "honest" girls that are happy to get a foreigner, especially if you are from Europe (Brazilians are often quite rude). Then good service is also almost guaranteed. I do this most of the times and I would say that. Even though you don't see the pictures. Around 3 out of 4 girls were very good (of course, if they're not nice on the phone or you feel that you talk to an agency, just forget it immediately and try another number!).

On the streets and with some contacts (e. G. If you take the same girl for the second time) you can usually get even cheaper prices.


For what I know the cachê is supposed to be R$200. By the way this is the standard rate for a 1h1/2 to 2h session with a free-lance garota in São Paulo.

Nowadays some garotas tend to ask for R$250 or R$300 but they're a minority.It really depends. The girls from the websites often charge this amount. However, if you take them a longer time, the rates hardly go up (so if you pay e. G. 250 for 2 hours you will only pay maybe 500 for the night). The good thing is that 90% of the pictures are real (plus of course plenty of photoshop-tuning), which you hardly have in any other country.

Cheaper and usually almost equal quality (of course, you don't see what you get, but also photoshoppers are often far from reality althoug basically real) are the girls from newspapers.

Many of the girls (even the ones from the websites) work in brothels during the day, often quite simple and cheap brothels (R$50. R$80 / hour). They charge significantly more for outcalls (they have more risk and spend more time). But when you visit them once or twice in the brothel and you come along well, you can mostly get them much cheaper (I had them even for free multiple times!) than on the websites. You can however mostly not take them home directly, but take a phone number or make a date.

Please note that the girls and the prices from GPGUIA are mostly indicating the girls from the websites and hence the prices appear to be higher than they are.


CM is a site of independents, not an agency. So all the ladies establish their own rates and you contact them directly. Many also entertain in their flats.

SPlove is another such site.With most websites, the girls simply pay for being listed there, but they have their own rates. Almost all girls are on multiple websites. So you will hardly find "standard rates" on the websites and if you do, stay away. Agency girls that have a pimp mostly provide bad service. I made the experience that many of the girls who don't publish the rates are actually cheaper than the ones that publish them. In the beginning, I hardly called those girls as I though that they're probably very expensive. Just try them if you feel they're really hot (and many of them are!).


What kind of weekly or monthly rates for these apts?SP is a city with far 20 million inhabitants, going from VERY poor to VERY rich. The flat prices go from R$500 / month to no limit (of course, excluding the places where you never should go as a foreigner!). But there is nothing like a "best place" or a really safe place in SP, the city is simply too big and rich and poor too close together. As a foreigner I would always stay in a hotel if you don't speak the language and if you don't know the local habits (especially regarding how to take care for your security). Brazil is in my view the best mongering place in the world, but if you don't know the rules of the game, you are in VERY big danger. I further never had a non-girl friendly hotel in Brazil, so pay the few extra bucks for your safety.

Privates:

In my opinion they are the best way to get laid for little money and then pick up the good girls' phonenumbers. The following addresses are already some months old, so not 100% sure if they are all still valid. But I would especially recommend the area around Rua Loefgreen / Metro Santa Cruz. There are at least 6 privates in <5 minutes walking distance that all cost between R$50 and R$70 per hour and many have pretty girls (levels 3. 8, most only have 4 women, so sometimes you just need to go from one place to the next one).

Privê da R. Pereira Estéfano, 218

- Metro: Saúde [R$60]

R. Pitangueiras 125

- Metro: Pç da Árvore. Price 30R ½ hr, 50R FS 1 hr

Privê da Rua Ouvidor Peleja, 142

- Metro: Saúde. [R$50]

Privê Abbacate. Rua Luiz Góis, 810

- Metro: Santa Cruz. [R$70]

- Rua loefgreen, 977 (+ plenty of other brothels in the direct neighbourhood).

Metro: Santa Cruz. 5539-3843/5081-3149 [R$50]

The newest addresses you can usually find in GPGUIA. Nowadays, only Brazilian IP addresses are allowed to access this site, so you need to use a Brazilian Proxy server to bypass this. (Jackson, not sure if I'm allowed to post this here? But the site is in Portuguese, so hardly a real competition. Sorry if not, then just delete it please).

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[Palmisano]

Definitely, Brazil is the best country!

SP compared to Rio:

1) Safety: SP wins

Rio is full of sex-tourists and Rio is the most criminal city in the world. Although SP is not safe, it is much safer than Rio and a tourist will not call so much attention. SP is a business city and. Although close to Rio. Much more European, so in case you are a very white or even blonde caucasian you will not call that much attention.

2) Girls: Rio wins

Depends what you want. But Rio definitely has a huge sex-industry and it is much more foreigner friendly. So you will find more girls and I think even pay less. SP has higher choice of girls. But if you don't know the city and the language, it is much harder to find them. Also the discos of SP are full of normal girls and many of them are difficult to get (not impossible, but this should be subject to another report.). Rio is much poorer and the discos, especially in the tourist places, are full of freelancers. Still, I like SP more, but it took me some years to realize this.

3) Location: Rio wins

Rio is the most beautiful city in the world. Sao Paulo probably among the ugliest ones (again, if you know the city, you can life there extremely good). In SP you will be lost if you don't have local friends (or stuck in your hotel and some small places). In Rio you just go to the beaches, sugar loaf mountain, etc: nice places and girls everywhere. Still, I like SP more, but it took me some years.

Rio & SP compared to rest of Brazil:

Salvador: Salvador is a dirty city, but has some nice historic buildings etc. And you can still find plenty of girls that just like & fuck you because you're coming from a rich country and because they simply like to have sex there. It's much easier there to find a real girl-friend (ok, pay her some dinners, etc. Last time I fucked one lady for one week and paid her clothes for just around R$100, plus some food & drinks before we went to the action). Again, there are too many foreigners and hence lot of criminality against foreigners.

South: Safest place, nice cities and beaches etc.. In the summer & holiday period you can find the beaches and tourist places full of freelancers. The rest of the time it's more difficult. As in whole Brazil, there is plenty of action, but you need to find the clubs etc. Of the locals. I especially recommend Curitiba, where I had one of my best trips. But also Porto Alegre, Florianopolis etc. Are fine. Prices are for sure higher and you will hardly find a girl that only fucks you because you're a foreigner if you're not a Leonardo di Caprio.

Inside the country / no-man's land (ok, this is really a big area): The smaller the city, the less dangerous it is, no matter how poor the people are. Although there are nightclubs or at least street action almost everywhere in Brazil, I love those small places for the normal girls. You can easily (of course, some Portuguese helps) find a nice girl, tell her some interesting stories, invite her, and she will be your girl-friend immediately. Take care, if you buy flowers the next day she will do everything for you, but don't break her heart too much (Brazilian rednecks in such an area would never do this!). Best place to meet are the small parks that are usually in the middle of each city and where there are always some bars and the whole city meets each night. Best is to talk to a group of women, don't be too aggressive as everybody knows everybody and it might make the women a bit shy.

I will try to post some more reports on Brazil (and actually on Thailand) during the next weeks. But it's hard too find enough time.

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[Ricker]

... I wouldn't say that this is a bargain. You can find plenty of escorts in SP for R$ 300 ...



Yep, THANKS for the report and advice, but hey, I was just being SARACASTIC about $500 dollars being a bargain ... JEEZ amigo :)

[Sui Generis]

Definitely, Brazil is the best country!


3) Location: Rio wins

Rio is the most beautiful city in the world. Sao Paulo probably among the ugliest ones (again, if you know the city, you can life there extremely good). In SP you will be lost if you don't have local friends (or stuck in your hotel and some small places). In Rio you just go to the beaches, sugar loaf mountain, etc: nice places and girls everywhere. Still, I like SP more, but it took me some years.


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I agree 100% with that statement. My fisrt impression of São Paulo was negative. I felt lost in that huge city because I was then unable to orient myself. When I was looking therer were only tall buildings looking all the same.

But I don't totally agree with Palsinao when he wrotes that São Paulo is an ugly city. Of course there exist parts of the city that are incredibly ugly but in the same time other bairros offer a good environment. I think for instance of some parts of Jardim, Moema or even Morumbi (not too close to the favela though).

Here are picks from nice and quiet streets in Moema:

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And here are some pictures displaying a darker or gloomier side of Sampa, respectively in Centro, Ipiranga and Liberdade.

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http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5379/13338181308393292557828.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/13338181308393292557828.jpg/)
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs046.snc3/13338_180274228292_557828292_2916295_6274151_n.jpg

If you like architecture there are some buildings that are worth seeing in Sampa. I think for example of Edificio Copan, Martinelli, Estacion da Luz and so on.

Another place worth seeing is: Parque da Independencia where is located the Museum of Sao Paulo (in Ipiranga).

Now, when people stop me in the streets to ask for direction, I know the city so well that I can help them to find their way in the city. Moreover, as I am fluent in Portuguese (with probably a funny French canadian sotaque (accent)) it,s quite easy to find women (non pro) or to have good relationships with GDP.

I wrote it several times in this forum: If you're a tourist with almost no knowledge of the culture or the language Rio is still the best place for you.

[Albert Punter]

Palmisano, thans for your excellent reports.
I agree that Sao Paulo is not one of the best places on earth: because of traffic, pollution, climate, etc.
However, saying that Rio is the best city in the world seems too much to me.
IMHO that city is not nice at all. Many times I have been there, finding it ugly and very dirty. Here in Brazil itself I prefer Belo Horizonte or Curitiba or even Brasilia.

I would word it this way: Rio's BAY is one of the most beautiful places in the world ... but unfortunately someone decided to build a city right there.



...
Rio is the most beautiful city in the world. Sao Paulo probably among the ugliest ones ...

[Mahal]

Cafe Photo:

Entrance R$190 includes 4 drinks. The girls do not ask to buy them drinks, which is nice, and make frequent eye contact but are not agressive. Some are very beautiful, all are good looking so overall the quality is high. I saw some 10's leaving as I arrived at midnight, wish I could have gone earlier though there were still many girls and mongers present.

Picked up Julia, loira (blonde) of Italian descent, very pretty face and body , which to my disappointment turned out to be entirely artificial, fake boobs and a scar from a recent lipposuccion. Great GFE nonetheless, lots of DFK, did not watch the time and gave me her phone number asking me to call her the next day after work (she is a computer designer by day). Between the R$190 entrance, taxi from Morumbi (about R$20 each way) and R$400 for the girl (she said the normal price is 500 but she would go with me for 400 because she liked me, sure, right...) a good but fairly expensive experience overall, as expected.

Cafe Gauguin

Went there at 1AM, about 3 customers and a dozen girls 7 or 8 max and the average around 5. Girls are fairly pushy, want drinks and champagne and I don't like that as I was constantly surrounded and could hardly look around. Entrance of R$80 includes one drink BUT you must pay 2 drinks for the girls to take out, so even though I did not actually offer to buy any girls drinks I ended up paying around R$170.

I was given a tour of the upstairs, on the 3rd level (2nd level is an additional sitting area), 4 small rooms without doors or beds, only sofas, which reminded me of karaoke rooms but without doors. It was confirmed that bedrooms would be illegal, however if I did not want to take a girl to my hotel I could get the same action in any of these rooms. All of them were empty and dark when I visited. Not my thing.

My favorite Isadora immediately recognized me but turned down USD200 and stated she would not go for less than USD250/R$400. But I had decided I was going to pay less than R$400 tonight or I would go to bed. Once she figured it out she french-kissed me and left... Ended up with Myriam instead, a tall brunette who works as a hairdresser during the day, 24yo, pretty, said I would never forget her, which I seriously doubt. She quickly agreed to USD200, which in my book is still a lot of money, and was friendly but CBJ and not the wild sex I could have had with Isadora. Oh well...

[Surf Looker]

How long did the girl spend with you??






Cafe Photo:

Entrance R$190 includes 4 drinks. The girls do not ask to buy them drinks, which is nice, and make frequent eye contact but are not agressive. Some are very beautiful, all are good looking so overall the quality is high. I saw some 10's leaving as I arrived at midnight, wish I could have gone earlier though there were still many girls and mongers present.

Picked up Julia, loira (blonde) of Italian descent, very pretty face and body , which to my disappointment turned out to be entirely artificial, fake boobs and a scar from a recent lipposuccion. Great GFE nonetheless, lots of DFK, did not watch the time and gave me her phone number asking me to call her the next day after work (she is a computer designer by day). Between the R$190 entrance, taxi from Morumbi (about R$20 each way) and R$400 for the girl (she said the normal price is 500 but she would go with me for 400 because she liked me, sure, right...) a good but fairly expensive experience overall, as expected.

Cafe Gauguin

Went there at 1AM, about 3 customers and a dozen girls 7 or 8 max and the average around 5. Girls are fairly pushy, want drinks and champagne and I don't like that as I was constantly surrounded and could hardly look around. Entrance of R$80 includes one drink BUT you must pay 2 drinks for the girls to take out, so even though I did not actually offer to buy any girls drinks I ended up paying around R$170.

I was given a tour of the upstairs, on the 3rd level (2nd level is an additional sitting area), 4 small rooms without doors or beds, only sofas, which reminded me of karaoke rooms but without doors. It was confirmed that bedrooms would be illegal, however if I did not want to take a girl to my hotel I could get the same action in any of these rooms. All of them were empty and dark when I visited. Not my thing.

My favorite Isadora immediately recognized me but turned down USD200 and stated she would not go for less than USD250/R$400. But I had decided I was going to pay less than R$400 tonight or I would go to bed. Once she figured it out she french-kissed me and left... Ended up with Myriam instead, a tall brunette who works as a hairdresser during the day, 24yo, pretty, said I would never forget her, which I seriously doubt. She quickly agreed to USD200, which in my book is still a lot of money, and was friendly but CBJ and not the wild sex I could have had with Isadora. Oh well...

[Will Smith69]

dear mongers,

i have the chance to be in sao paulo the first time next month. i have read the forum carefully but still did not get the fealing i know the right things.

is there by any chance someone who could be able to give a short "summary. to a novice. (i think this would be from interest for others too).

i like escorts so my questions are:

is it leagel, waht is the average price to pay and what to expect. and where and how is the best way to finde them. i don't speek portugese only english.

thanks a lot to anybody who is helping. thanks.!

will

[Hughdad]

dear mongers,

i have the chance to be in sao paulo the first time next month. i have read the forum carefully but still did not get the fealing i know the right things.

is there by any chance someone who could be able to give a short "summary. to a novice. (i think this would be from interest for others too).

i like escorts so my questions a

is it leagel, waht is the average price to pay and what to expect. and where and how is the best way to finde them. i don't speek portugese only english.

thanks a lot to anybody who is helping. thanks.!

willyou "speek" english? all the info you need is in this forum. stop being lazy and read the archives.

[Albert Punter]

escort services or prostitutes are legal here, no problem.
also, as far as i know all hotels are girls friendly.
furthermore, you may explain to the reception (most likely only to male staff) what is your need and they either show you a book from where you can choose a girl of your liking or can send a girl to your room (no obligation to buy).

otherwise, tell us what catched your attention reading the forum and someone will surely help.


dear mongers,

i have the chance to be in sao paulo the first time next month. i have read the forum carefully but still did not get the fealing i know the right things.

is there by any chance someone who could be able to give a short "summary. to a novice. (i think this would be from interest for others too).

i like escorts so my questions are:

is it leagel, waht is the average price to pay and what to expect. and where and how is the best way to finde them. i don't speek portugese only english.

thanks a lot to anybody who is helping. thanks.!

will

[JohnTodd]

Escort services or prostitutes are legal here, no problem.
Also, as far as I know all hotels are girls friendly.
Furthermore, you may explain to the reception (most likely only to male staff) what is your need and they either show you a book from where you can choose a girl of your liking or can send a girl to your room (no obligation to buy).

Otherwise, tell us what catched your attention reading the forum and someone will surely help.


Just a note of caution, in November I stayed at the Sheraton in Sao Paulo, my visitor checked in at the front desk, they escorted her to my room, I signed something on a clip board, when I checked out it was a 150 real fee for the visitor.

[Albert Punter]

In some cases, when girl comes by herself, hotels ask her to register.
They do that for security reasons, which is understandable.
However, I have never heard about charging an extra.
John thanks fo sharing the info.


p.s. generally we do have to register too when we visit some girl at their own apt, it is not discreet at all but ...




Just a note of caution, in November I stayed at the Sheraton in Sao Paulo, my visitor checked in at the front desk, they escorted her to my room, I signed something on a clip board, when I checked out it was a 150 real fee for the visitor.

[Hughdad]

Just a note of caution, in November I stayed at the Sheraton in Sao Paulo, my visitor checked in at the front desk, they escorted her to my room, I signed something on a clip board, when I checked out it was a 150 real fee for the visitor.When you made the original reservation, did you make it for 1 or 2? Always book for 2, does not cost any more.

[Hughdad]

Escort services or prostitutes are legal here, no problem.
Also, as far as I know all hotels are girls friendly.

Furthermore, you may explain to the reception (most likely only to male staff) what is your need and they either show you a book from where you can choose a girl of your liking or can send a girl to your room (no obligation to buy).

Otherwise, tell us what catched your attention reading the forum and someone will surely help.Which major hotels provide this service?

[Hughdad]

In some cases, when girl comes by herself, hotels ask her to register.

They do that for security reasons, which is understandable.

However, I have never heard about charging an extra.

John thanks fo sharing the info.


p.s. generally we do have to register too when we visit some girl at their own apt, it is not discreet at all but ...When my lady friend and I are in SP and want to bring up another guest, she or we make arrangements to meet in an area of the lobby or even outside the hotel. Never had a problem doing this. Plus you can screen guests better.

[Bobo5]

Just a note of caution, in November I stayed at the Sheraton in Sao Paulo, my visitor checked in at the front desk, they escorted her to my room, I signed something on a clip board, when I checked out it was a 150 real fee for the visitor.


I was also in November @ Sheraton in Brooklyn and had a guest staying for the night but was not charged a cent.

Are You sure the 150 reais were for the visitor?

BB5

[JohnTodd]

I was also in November @ Sheraton in Brooklyn and had a guest staying for the night but was not charged a cent.

Are You sure the 150 reais were for the visitor?

BB5

Yes, it definately was a 150 real fee. If I can find a copy of the receipt I will post.

[KellySlater]

So I have read all the Sao Paulo reports going back to 2007. Great information and I have decided to make this my next stop.

I have been to Rio many times and I am just really tired of that scene. I have also been to Fortaleza and it is not really for me.

I am more of a big city guy. I am from NYC where I have been most of life except having lived in Paris and London for a few years each. So Big city is for me.

I speak Portuguese fairly well so language will not be an issue for me in SP.

While I don't want to spend a fortune on a girl money is less of a concern than finding the right scene for my tastes.

I do not like terma like environments I prefer my hotel or apartment.

I hate fake breasts. I really do not need model like women. I would rather have an average girl with a pretty face and nice smile.

So even after RTFF I am still confused.

The Cafe Foto type places seem to have women too old and too fake. prefer 19-24 years old with real breasts and grils who do not think they are model types.

I do not need champagne type places but also prefer not to be in the "gutter"

Any suggestions?

[Albert Punter]

Sorry but I cannot provide a list.
I had this experience at a aparthotel in Al.Lorena a few years back.

Also, many of the girls I had invited to my room, told me that hotels keep a book and told they would have left some of their pics downstairs.

As far as asking to hotel staff, chatting with a girl yesterday I learnt she was going to meet another guest in same aparthotel. This guest was addressed to her by restaurant manager to whom this guest asked for some "help" in finding a girl.



Which major hotels provide this service?

[Albert Punter]

Sometimes I do that too.
In these cases reception staff don't care a dime about the girl.


When my lady friend and I are in SP and want to bring up another guest, she or we make arrangements to meet in an area of the lobby or even outside the hotel. Never had a problem doing this. Plus you can screen guests better.

[Bobo5]

Yes, it definately was a 150 real fee. If I can find a copy of the receipt I will post.

Choose the Hilton next time.
Just a few hundred meters from the Sheraton Brooklyn. I've been there many times and can assure there is no extra fee, they'll just register the girl.

bb5

[Tiradentes]

So I have read all the Sao Paulo reports going back to 2007. Great information and I have decided to make this my next stop.

I have been to Rio many times and I am just really tired of that scene. I have also been to Fortaleza and it is not really for me.

I am more of a big city guy. I am from NYC where I have been most of life except having lived in Paris and London for a few years each. So Big city is for me.

I speak Portuguese fairly well so language will not be an issue for me in SP.

While I don't want to spend a fortune on a girl money is less of a concern than finding the right scene for my tastes.

I do not like terma like environments I prefer my hotel or apartment.

I hate fake breasts. I really do not need model like women. I would rather have an average girl with a pretty face and nice smile.

So even after RTFF I am still confused.

The Cafe Foto type places seem to have women too old and too fake. prefer 19-24 years old with real breasts and grils who do not think they are model types.

I do not need champagne type places but also prefer not to be in the "gutter"

Any suggestions?

Sampa is the largest mongering place in the world. Surely, you will find what you like at a reasonable price .

Places like Cafe Foto, Bomboa, etc.(seems a new high end place opens every week) should be shunned. Their prices outweigh the quality and the service you will receive.

To find nice talent at reasonable pices, I suggest lower end tiers, such as Kilt, Vagao, etc. They both are located in Centro, Nestor Pestana (sp) street.
Any taxi would know these places.

[Albert Punter]

Good you want to experience SP.
I am sure you will have fun here.

As you mention your fluency in the local language, I would recommend you to select a girl from the many websites and invite her to your place. It is true that many pics are photoshopped, however this search will allow you to contact young girls with nice smile and real boobs (silicon boobs are in some way recognizable).

Other than that, I concur with Tiradentes you may want to try middle level clubs like Kilt (my favourite) or Vagao or others. You will have the advantage to see the girl in person and to chat a little bit, to see if some chemistry may develop.
Cafe Photo is full of beautiful young girls (why you got impression too old women browse there ?), however many of them feel themselves as model type, so they may not be what you look for, and are expensive too.


So I have read all the Sao Paulo reports going back to 2007. Great information and I have decided to make this my next stop.

I have been to Rio many times and I am just really tired of that scene. I have also been to Fortaleza and it is not really for me.

I am more of a big city guy. I am from NYC where I have been most of life except having lived in Paris and London for a few years each. So Big city is for me.

I speak Portuguese fairly well so language will not be an issue for me in SP.

While I don't want to spend a fortune on a girl money is less of a concern than finding the right scene for my tastes.

I do not like terma like environments I prefer my hotel or apartment.

I hate fake breasts. I really do not need model like women. I would rather have an average girl with a pretty face and nice smile.

So even after RTFF I am still confused.

The Cafe Foto type places seem to have women too old and too fake. prefer 19-24 years old with real breasts and grils who do not think they are model types.

I do not need champagne type places but also prefer not to be in the "gutter"

Any suggestions?

[Ricker]

Sampa is the largest mongering place in the world. Surely, you will find what you like at a reasonable price .

Places like Cafe Foto, Bomboa, etc.(seems a new high end place opens every week) should be shunned. Their prices outweigh the quality and the service you will receive.

To find nice talent at reasonable pices, I suggest lower end tiers, such as Kilt, Vagao, etc. They both are located in Centro, Nestor Pestana (sp) street.
Any taxi would know these places.

I agree with this cat.

My girlfriend was out of town last week so I took a buddy of mine, new to the scene, out for a spin around Augusta.

A few places I like on Augusta: Maison, Caribe and Casarao.

These places can be hit and miss but I've found gems in all of them.
About 10R entrance and includes a beer or two.

My buddy found a pretty garota in Maison that he fell in love with.
She wanted 125R plus 20R for the room. With just a little fun and laughter, I easily got her down to 90R total for in-house service.

I met a couple cuties in Caribe, but this night I found my gem in Casarao.
Wow, she was a beautiful moreninha. Thin but curvy. Patricia.
After chatting a bit, she said she like to get 150R plus 25R for the room.
I told her, though she certainly deserved that much, I could only pay 80R plus 25R for the room. She was so pretty, I didn't even want to try and negotiate lower.
She said she was OK with that, so I paid at the front desk and up we went for fun.
Fantastic.

All in all, goes to show that in SP, you just don't have to break the bank for good fun.
Matter of fact, one of my favorite garotas I've met in all of SP was in a 1R a minute barsinho.

Boa sorte ....

[Albert Punter]

I now realize that amount you had paid is about USD 80.
Far too much for an extra guest.
Even if you change from single occupancy to double occupancy, probably you don't pay such extra amount.
...
No, you don't even pay a difference at Sheraton.
Try to book a single or a double at that hotel and you will see rate is in both cases USD 310.




Yes, it definately was a 150 real fee. If I can find a copy of the receipt I will post.

[Will Smith69]

Escort services or prostitutes are legal here, no problem.

Also, as far as I know all hotels are girls friendly.

Furthermore, you may explain to the reception (most likely only to male staff) what is your need and they either show you a book from where you can choose a girl of your liking or can send a girl to your room (no obligation to buy).

Otherwise, tell us what catched your attention reading the forum and someone will surely help.Thanks for the help albert,

My problem is that I do not understand sao paulo from the geografy. I stay in alphaville but from what I understand this is far far away from everything. I have the chance to change the hotel. So what can be a good location if I want to be "at the spot". I have read the froum, but I don't know what is the best place to Wstart" from.

Any help on this would be wonderfull.

Thanks!

Will

[BionicMan]

Thanks for the help albert,

My problem is that I do not understand sao paulo from the geografy. I stay in alphaville but from what I understand this is far far away from everything. I have the chance to change the hotel. So what can be a good location if I want to be "at the spot". I have read the froum, but I don't know what is the best place to Wstart" from.

Any help on this would be wonderfull.

Thanks!

Will

Quite some locations are good, certainly not Alphaville. Moema is an area sufficently central and so is Jardins.

[Albert Punter]

Right decision to change your hotel, Alphaville is really away from everything.
Is there any special reason you decided to stay there. Maybe your business partners are located there ? You may say I am curious.
Many years ago when my partners were located there I used to stay in Jardins.

I second what Bionicman suggested: Jardins and Moema are good areas.



Thanks for the help albert,

My problem is that I do not understand sao paulo from the geografy. I stay in alphaville but from what I understand this is far far away from everything. I have the chance to change the hotel. So what can be a good location if I want to be "at the spot". I have read the froum, but I don't know what is the best place to Wstart" from.

Any help on this would be wonderfull.

Thanks!

Will

[Will Smith69]

Right decision to change your hotel, Alphaville is really away from everything.

Is there any special reason you decided to stay there. Maybe your business partners are located there? You may say I am curious.

Many years ago when my partners were located there I used to stay in Jardins.

I second what Bionicman suggested: Jardins and Moema are good areas.jes exactly. Our partners have organiced this. But we can relocate so it would be better. So I understadn that if we relocate we should go for Jardins or Moema. Ok I will see if I finde a hotel there.

Thanks it is difficult to get all things sortet out.

I I am searching for the "places to go" you think I search for Jardins and Moema and I finde the right informations. Right.

So I try.

Thanks again!

[Prosal]

Moema
Moema is an enjoyable neighborhood but rather remote ...if you stay in Moema and monger around Centro and Pinheiros taxis will cost you a little fortune. Better stay in Jardins.

You are right to have changed anyhow. Alphaville is a soulless gated condominums "city" with absolutely no options, 30 kms west !!

[Holefiller]

Ok so I understand this is not the best place to stay, but I have no choice.

Can anyone advise me as to best options for pay4play around (or within reasonable cab distance) from the Comfort Suites hotel here in Alphaville?

Brothels, clubs, massage, any help would be appreciated.

[Albert Punter]

Will,

Attached is a file which shows location of various "bairros" mentioned by Prosal, so that you can have an idea of distances.

IMHO staying in Moema is not so dramatic as far as distances and taxi fares.
Many of the girls reside in Jardins, which is 20 R by taxi.
A ride between Moema and Centro can be 30 R and 25 minutes ?
Obviously I am considering night-time with no traffic.


Moema is an enjoyable neighborhood but rather remote ...if you stay in Moema and monger around Centro and Pinheiros taxis will cost you a little fortune. Better stay in Jardins.

You are right to have changed anyhow. Alphaville is a soulless gated condominums "city" with absolutely no options, 30 kms west !!

[Sui Generis]

In my mind Moema is better than Jardins or any other locations in Sampa. It's « far » from centro only if you need to hobby down there. Bu why hobby down there? There's everything in Moema. By eveything I mean privês, swing clubs, boates. You're close to Cafe Photo or other places in the same category.

If you prefer to hobby in Vila Mariana or Novo Brooklin (as I frequently do ) you're close to these bairros.

Like Jardins, a lot of garotas live in Moema (especially in the Sonesta on Ibirapuera Blvd.).

The bairro is quiet (it's the prominent aspect of this hood). You can walk at night without danger.

The only problem is when you try to get out of the hood at rush hours.

It's a good spot to meet non pros. (My latest conquest was a book seller working near Praça dos Pombos and Nossa Senhora de Aparecida)

Of course, I'm not impartial. Sayng this I realze that I should keep my mouth shut because I wouldn't like to see too many gringos in my favorite playground. Lol...

[Prosal]

Attached is a file which shows location of various "bairros" mentioned by Prosal, so that you can have an idea of distances.
Without being controversial, you rightly pointed out on your map the name of the districts, but without demarcations it's not really graphic. Those are VERY large districts and the distances vary considerably depending on whether you stay in one part of the bairro or in another (in the case of Moema, north of south).

Jardins (which is the addition of three bairros, Jardim¨Paulista, J.Europa and J.Americano) stretches much norther than your mark. It's in reality delimited north by Av Reboucas and Av Paulista so borders Bela Vista and Consolacao (which themselves border Centro), and south by Ibirapuera Park so borders also Moema.

Moema, also, stretches from Ibirapuera Park to Congonhas (that doesn't even appear on your map) and is a district much bigger than what you marked. I'd say that the distance between Congonhas and Centro is about 12 km.

Same for Pinheiros. Its northern part (where Bomboa is located) is delimited by av Dr Arnaldo and is attenant to Consolacao, thus rather close to Centro. It's a huge bairro indeed.


A ride between Moema and Centro can be 30 R and 25 minutes ?Obviously I am considering night-time with no traffic.
It's more like 40RS night time.

[Prosal]

In my mind Moema is better than Jardins or any other locations in Sampa. It's « far » from centro only if you need to hobby down there. Bu why hobby down there? There's everything in Moema. By eveything I mean privês, swing clubs, boates. You're close to Cafe Photo or other places in the same category.
Why mongering in Centro? simply because of the best strip clubs in Brasil (Kilt, Vargao, My Love, ect), and above all because of Love Story, the best pick-up club and wildest after hours on the planet! :)

Anyway despite all its wonders (once more, I find Moema being a highly enjoyable neighborhood, as by the way many other neighborhoods in SP, which REALLY doens't deserves its reputation of "ugly city", qualifier that I'd personally better attribute to Rio), Moema is incontestably a bairro for "early-to-bed" persons. There's few night options (but many good restaurants though) and it's not a nighlife district by any means, contrarily to Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia, Vila Madalena, Pinheiros or Bela Cintra, where there is literally thousands of venues of all kind.

One other minus of Moema is that there's no Metro station. You have to catch the Linha 1 - first station at 3 km - if you want to go strollling around Centro during daytime (which is really enjoyable and captivating).

Talking about well located great nightlife districts, no one has ever mentionned here the revival of the bairro that is now referred to as Baixo Augusta, the area that stretches along Rua Augusta and the two parallel avenues that flank it, Rua Bela Cintra and Rua Frei Caneca (which was a low-end red-light district, but in the last few years has also become a lounges, upscale restaurants and clubs "bohemian" nightlife area). There is a new Mercure Apartment in this bairro (that is more largely known as Bela Vista), which will be my new favorite place to stay in SP as it is also at walking distance to Jardins, really close to Centro and not far to Pinheiros -and Bomboa, which remains for me the greatest boite in SA.

[KellySlater]

It looks like 1 less spot. someone can confirm?

http://ultimainstancia.uol.com.br/clipping_ver.php?idConteudo=2953

I was reading the older reports. It seems they have already a new location planned?

1st trip in a few weeks. I was planning on at least checking it out but seemed a little overpriced and also seemed a little too "formal" for my tastes at least from the pictures at there website.

[Eros74]

Prosal,

your knowledge of SP is huge....for how long did you live here ? Cause I guess if one come just for short term holidays needs a lot of time to get to your level of knowledge here.

Did you ever miss the fact there is no sea here ?

I mean how did you kill the time during the day waiting for start the night life at the evening ?

[Prosal]

I mean how did you kill the time during the day waiting for start the night life at the evening ?
Just strolling around. There's plenty of highly enjoyable bairros in Sao Paulo. Literally dozens, and not only the poshest ones. And in the evening, you can hit two different cool and "hip" bars every day of the week during one year without even begin to discover what the city has to offer in term of nightlife. Same for P4P venues. It's literally endless.

SP is for me the best city in Brasil in every respect (atmosphere, culture, nightlife, mongering, P4P, women, fine food, safety, ect). Yeah, there's no beach, but personally I fuking don't care about the beach. And anyhow, Litoral Norte, that harbours some of the most beautiful and happening beaches in Brasil, is only at some 80 km and a 20 RS bus ticket ... which is great to kick back for a few days with a chick or two on board (in Sao Paulo, all boites close on weekends, and girls are usually VERY enthusiast if a cosmopolitan and cool gringo offer them a Sat/Sunday short break in a nice pousada in Camburi or Maresias ...I personally did it several times, including once with two mclass meninas, and for absolutely no other costs than the trip expenses ..great memories !!).

Anyhow, how some people can say that Sao Paulo is an "ugly" and "boring" city is beyond me. Compared to SP, Rio is an annoying dump with no substance .....that being said, I'm rather happy that the Rio mongers remain in fuking Rio to screw faveladas. Last thing I'd like to see is this kind of gringos invading Love Story !!!

Thanks for your kind words anyway. When we meet to down some Baltikas ? ... later this year, in Vladivostok, or Tashkent ?

;)

[BionicMan]

Just strolling around. There's plenty of highly enjoyable bairros in Sao Paulo. Literally dozens, and not only the poshest ones. And in the evening, you can hit two different cool and "hip" bars every day of the week during one year without even begin to discover what the city has to offer in term of nightlife. Same for P4P venues. It's literally endless.

SP is for me the best city in Brasil in every respect (atmosphere, culture, nightlife, mongering, P4P, women, fine food, safety, ect). Yeah, there's no beach, but personally I fuking don't care about the beach. And anyhow, Litoral Norte, that harbours some of the most beautiful and happening beaches in Brasil, is only at some 80 km and a 20 RS bus ticket ... which is great to kick back for a few days with a chick or two on board (in Sao Paulo, all boites close on weekends, and girls are usually VERY enthusiast if a cosmopolitan and cool gringo offer them a Sat/Sunday short break in a nice pousada in Camburi or Maresias ...I personally did it several times, including once with two mclass meninas, and for absolutely no other costs than the trip expenses ..great memories !!).

Anyhow, how some people can say that Sao Paulo is an "ugly" and "boring" city is beyond me. Compared to SP, Rio is an annoying dump with no substance .....that being said, I'm rather happy that the Rio mongers remain in Rio to screw faveladas. Last thing I'd like to see is gringos invading Love Story !!!

Thanks for your kind words anyway. When we meet to down some Baltikas ? ... later this year, in Vladivostok, or Tashkent ?

;)

Nice shots of the 5th Avenue, or Faubourg St Honorè, or via Montenapoleone of Sao Paulo!:)) full of nice restaurants there too

[Member #3435]

Just strolling around. There's plenty of highly enjoyable bairros in Sao Paulo. Literally dozens, and not only the poshest ones. And in the evening, you can hit two different cool and "hip" bars every day of the week during one year without even begin to discover what the city has to offer in term of nightlife. Same for P4P venues. It's literally endless.

SP is for me the best city in Brasil in every respect (atmosphere, culture, nightlife, mongering, P4P, women, fine food, safety, ect). Yeah, there's no beach, but personally I fuking don't care about the beach. And anyhow, Litoral Norte, that harbours some of the most beautiful and happening beaches in Brasil, is only at some 80 km and a 20 RS bus ticket ... which is great to kick back for a few days with a chick or two on board (in Sao Paulo, all boites close on weekends, and girls are usually VERY enthusiast if a cosmopolitan and cool gringo offer them a Sat/Sunday short break in a nice pousada in Camburi or Maresias ...I personally did it several times, including once with two mclass meninas, and for absolutely no other costs than the trip expenses ..great memories !!).

Anyhow, how some people can say that Sao Paulo is an "ugly" and "boring" city is beyond me. Compared to SP, Rio is an annoying dump with no substance .....that being said, I'm rather happy that the Rio mongers remain in Rio to screw faveladas. Last thing I'd like to see is gringos invading Love Story !!!

Thanks for your kind words anyway. When we meet to down some Baltikas ? ... later this year, in Vladivostok, or Tashkent ?

;)

Very nice collection of pix. Clean!
All I ever heard about SP is how conjested and polluted the air is.

Thanks for sharing, Schwmm

[Prosal]

full of nice restaurants there
Yeah, Sao Paulo is full of nice and good restaurants. It's the result of several immigration waves of Italians, Southeast Europeans, Japoneses, Libaneses, Polishs, and some other ethnicities. The product (blended with the fact that every dump from Macapa to Rio Branco send their best culinary talents - and hottest girls - for a chance at Bright Lights Big City) makes of SP the world's culinary capital, bar none.


Nice shots of the Faubourg St Honorè of Sao Paulo!
Well, not really. It's random shots of Jardins, Itaim Bibi (outdoor cafes pics), Pinheiros and Moema (Sui Generis will recognize the "A Estalagem" terrace!), so adminitratively Zona Centro-Sul and Zona Centro-Oeste, and geographically Centro Expandido. A huge part of SP, and very representative of what the city looks like IMO. Yet if you want more pics about other cool bairros (agree that there's dozens of more "bohemian" or middle-class neighborhoods - just as enjoyable - but also some others much more glamour and posh like Jardim America, Vila Nova Conceicao or Jardim Europa), just ask, I can provide !!

BTW, in Paris (as in Sao Paulo), I'd rather stroll around neighborhoods like Faubourg St Honore or Bld des Capucines than in dump periferias like La Courneuve or Montreuil. That is why I live very close from Opera.

;)

[Eros74]

...When we meet to down some Baltikas ? ... later this year, in Vladivostok, or Tashkent ?

Irkutsk remain more appealing to me, especially cause I had to go there on 2004...

Honestly my weak point is that I miss and love too much beaches, but this time, as you will read soon in my next report of Rio, it was the last one for the moment.

Thanks for the photos of SP, it looks like much better than Rio, actually reminds me south of Brazil, for example Curitiba, nice buildings, clean streets, girls dressing nice and walking with class....

Time for me to go to asap to FKK, I need some quality pussy at very affordable prices, cause even if it is true that when I have fun I care no much about money, it is true too, that this time in Rio I almost had no fun at all.....the best Prosal, bye for now

[Auriflama]

Well, not really. It's random shots of Jardins, Itaim Bibi (outdoor cafes pics), Pinheiros and Moema. So adminitratively Zona Centro-Sul and Zona Centro-Oeste, and geographically Centro Expandido. A huge part of SP, and very representative of what the city looks like IMO. Yet if you want more pics about other cool bairros (agree that there's dozens of more "bohemians" or middle-class neighborhoods, and undoubtedly just as enjoyable), just ask, I can provide!

Yeah, Sao Paulo is full of nice and good restaurants. It's the result of several rather recent immigration waves of Italians, Southeast Europeans, Japoneses, Libaneses, Polishs, and some other ethnicities. The product (blended with the fact that all the dumps from Macapa to Rio Branco send their best culinary talents. And hottest girls. For a chance at Bright Lights Big City) makes of SP the world's culinary capital, bar none.

.Yes more photos of sao paulo. SP is still such a mystery on this board and is really untouched in terms of the knowledge and expousure. I don't mind seeing the good with the bad sections. I relaize there are rough parts in SP such as crackolandia and many favelas but there is also good positive sights.

[BionicMan]

Yeah, Sao Paulo is full of nice and good restaurants. It's the result of several immigration waves of Italians, Southeast Europeans, Japoneses, Libaneses, Polishs, and some other ethnicities. The product (blended with the fact that every dump from Macapa to Rio Branco send their best culinary talents - and hottest girls - for a chance at Bright Lights Big City) makes of SP the world's culinary capital, bar none.


Well, not really. It's random shots of Jardins, Itaim Bibi (outdoor cafes pics), Pinheiros and Moema (Sui Generis will recognize the "A Estalagem" terrace!), so adminitratively Zona Centro-Sul and Zona Centro-Oeste, and geographically Centro Expandido. A huge part of SP, and very representative of what the city looks like IMO. Yet if you want more pics about other cool bairros (agree that there's dozens of more "bohemian" or middle-class neighborhoods - just as enjoyable - but also some others much more glamour and posh like Jardim America, Vila Nova Conceicao or Jardim Europa), just ask, I can provide !!

BTW, in Paris (as in Sao Paulo), I'd rather stroll around neighborhoods like Faubourg St Honore or Bld des Capucines than in dump periferias like La Courneuve or Montreuil. That is why I live very close from Opera.

;)The great thing about SP is the capacity to generate new food places that have not only food pleasure but also architectural features that one can seldom find around the world.
Aside the more traditional Barbacoa (a must for me at least once or twice during my stays) there are tens of locations where the surroundings of the table make a perfect match with the food.
Always a pleasure to go and discover them.
Haddock Lobo and Oscar Freire definetely deserve the definition, withing the brazilian environment, of the Faubourg..:)

[Bobo5]

It looks like 1 less spot. someone can confirm?

http://ultimainstancia.uol.com.br/clipping_ver.php?idConteudo=2953

I was reading the older reports. It seems they have already a new location planned?

1st trip in a few weeks. I was planning on at least checking it out but seemed a little overpriced and also seemed a little too "formal" for my tastes at least from the pictures at there website.


I fear that Cafè Foto is closed for good. The girl I'm keeping in touch with just wrote me an email confirming the closure. The new spot has been ready for a while now, hopefully will re-open soon.

BB5

[KellySlater]

Albert, Ricker, Tiradentes, everyone,

Thanks for the suggestions.

So places like Maison, Caribe and Casarao, vagao, kilt

At all of these places take out to my apartment/hotel is an option?

[Hobbying]

I'll be in SP next week, pm me if any one wants to go to boites together.

[Will Smith69]

Dear all,

Thanks for all of your incredible help. Perfect tips! Without I would not have suvived in this wonderfull town.

I followd the tip to leave the hotel in alphavill as soon as I could and moved into the unique hotel. This is very unique. A wonderful hotel, very GF, and also a good location even if you only can use a taxi.

As recomendet I visited the kilt and I must say a good place, not fancy but I think even gone there a bit late (1pm) it was a very good selecion of girls, even a gooh hand full of noce who speak english. So I decidet for a very nice one. 300r for 2-3 h. She never looked at the watch. We had a wonderfull drink at the rooftop bar and then had some hours of fun. Perfect.

The other night I was on the road with frindes and they showed us the "old" Photo. The building is now compleety demolished. And then the "neW one.

What a place.

A huge building, an impressing entrance. Like you go into a high securety area if an financial institut (this is always a bit of the athmosphere there)

Nice girls, but I never got in the right moode. The whole place is to cold, and I mean also the themperature! It was freezing in this place. 175r entry plus some drings was the damage. The girls don't start under 500r and I think I don't like this place!

Thanks again to all of you and I would love tom go back! Asap

[Albert Punter]

I only know Vagao and Kilt.
Take out is ONLY option there.



Albert, Ricker, Tiradentes, everyone,

Thanks for the suggestions.

So places like Maison, Caribe and Casarao, vagao, kilt

At all of these places take out to my apartment/hotel is an option?

[Tiradentes]

I only know Vagao and Kilt.
Take out is ONLY option there.


That ain't right !

You can bang the chicka in Kilt, if you want. They have small couches on the second floor, seperated by curtains. Not a great thing because of the small place, but it can be done.

[Prosal]

That ain't right !You can bang the chicka in Kilt, if you want. They have small couches on the second floor, seperated by curtains. Not a great thing because of the small place, but it can be done.
Seconded.

BTW Kilt (as most others strip bars in SP) is a real cool place, and has a great selection of talents ...many in the Paulista "girl next door" type, which is great.

[Ricker]

Seconded.

Kilt (as most others strip bars in SP) is a really cool place, and has a great selection of talents ...many in the "girl next door" type, which is great.

I actually like the place right across the street much better ... My Love.
I find it friendlier and easier going, less expensive, as garotas just as nice usually.

[Ricker]

Was out and about the other day in SP and hit a couple of my little hidden favorite places in o Centro.

After a week in Medellin, Colombia I was ready for some fun with a Brasileira :)
I wanted to meet someone new.

Anyway, I saw this beautiful little little, lighter skin moreninha sitting by herself.
What a beautiful smile and face and a little spinner body to go along with it.

It still amazes me some of the beauties you can meet away from the high-end, high-cost clubs.
Of course you have to sift thru some fugly garotas I hate to say, in these low-end areas, but the catch is worth the hunt IMO.

She told me that she'd seen me in the place before, but I didn't speak with her. It's crazy that I missed her before.

I had a Coca Cola with her, that's what she wanted.
She's 20 and sweet.

I like to chat and laugh a bit with a girl to show that I'm not some rough-neck and to gain their trust. I gave her a little box of chocolates (I usually carry a few with me)
She loved it.
Me too :)

Went back for 30 minutes, 40R plus 10R tip ... hard to believe. Great time, great energy.

Anyway, she likes me, and of course I like her too.
I told her I'd be back in SP this Friday and I'd love to take her to the movies and for a drink afterwards, then to my hotel room to chill.

Can you believe she told me that she's NEVER been to the movies and was excited.
This is going to be fun!!

I'll post a follow up and some fotos later.
(the fotos will be edited to protect her ID though. that's the way I do it, don't care if guys give me grief)

Take care amigos ...

[KellySlater]

Ricker,

Where did you meet her? did you forget to mention this or was that intentional?

:)

[Albert Punter]

Yes, you can bang girls wherever you like ...
I remember guys banging girls in the corners/restrooms of Bar Rouge in Shanghai (http://www.bar-rouge-shanghai.com/).
Those of you who know that sophisticated place would agree it is not ... appropriate.

Therefore, I didn't consider that option as really it is not how I like to enjoy the act.
I mean it is under what I believe a minimum level of comfort and privacy.


That ain't right !

You can bang the chicka in Kilt, if you want. They have small couches on the second floor, seperated by curtains. Not a great thing because of the small place, but it can be done.

[Bobo5]

Dear all,

Thanks for all of your incredible help. Perfect tips! Without I would not have suvived in this wonderfull town.

I followd the tip to leave the hotel in alphavill as soon as I could and moved into the unique hotel. This is very unique. A wonderful hotel, very GF, and also a good location even if you only can use a taxi.

As recomendet I visited the kilt and I must say a good place, not fancy but I think even gone there a bit late (1pm) it was a very good selecion of girls, even a gooh hand full of noce who speak english. So I decidet for a very nice one. 300r for 2-3 h. She never looked at the watch. We had a wonderfull drink at the rooftop bar and then had some hours of fun. Perfect.

The other night I was on the road with frindes and they showed us the "old" Photo. The building is now compleety demolished. And then the "neW one.

What a place.

A huge building, an impressing entrance. Like you go into a high securety area if an financial institut (this is always a bit of the athmosphere there)

Nice girls, but I never got in the right moode. The whole place is to cold, and I mean also the themperature! It was freezing in this place. 175r entry plus some drings was the damage. The girls don't start under 500r and I think I don't like this place!

Thanks again to all of you and I would love tom go back! Asap


So the new foto is open?

bb5

[Sky Ryder]

Yes, you can bang girls wherever you like ...
I remember guys banging girls in the corners/restrooms of Bar Rouge in Shanghai (http://www.bar-rouge-shanghai.com/).
Those of you who know that sophisticated place would agree it is not ... appropriate.

Therefore, I didn't consider that option as really it is not how I like to enjoy the act.
I mean it is under what I believe a minimum level of comfort and privacy.


I have to admit that I am constantly amazed by the breadth of experience of mongers. I was reading the Sampa board, mostly because I haven't been in 2 years and miss it, now that I am on the other side of the world. When what do I see is a reference to Bar Rouge in Shanghai. A place I visited just a couple of weeks ago!! Unbelievable! Anyway I cannot imagine anyone "getting their freak on" in Bar Rouge....but long ago got over being surprised by many things....:-)
Will Smith reference to Hotel Unique brings back lots of memories! I love this hotel and IMHO, the Sky Bar on the roof maybe one of, if not the best all around bar in the world! If that place isn't one of the most romantic and sensual places on earth (well a bar anyway), then I can see I need to do a LOT more research! Stay horny my friends!! ( kudos to Cuba Nut)

[Prosal]

Hotel Unique brings back lots of memories! I love this hotel and IMHO, the Sky Bar on the roof maybe one of, if not the best all around bar in the world!
The pool isn't bad either.

[Mscllover]

Can anyone suggest any muscular/athletic ladies in SP in the various clubs?

Thanks!

[Albert Punter]

Have a look at the information posted in their website


So the new foto is open?

bb5

[Amoabdar]

Went there in Nov 08 the best night of my life. Went there around 7 pm talked to 40 girls and picked one that was a girl next door type, went back to my hotel in her car and she made me cum 4 times in 7 hours. Romaza the next night and a damn good time there as well. All I say if I die and wake up in cafe photo I know I am in heaven.

[Northern Guy]

Hi,

I'm going to SP in May/June. Have been to Rio once before. I have a couple of questions, where I hope you can help me out. I have read a bit on the forum, but it didn't really answer everything. I am an early 30ies danish guy, and I'm going with one or two friends.

1) Does SP have discos like Help, where there are available freelancers? If I don't get non-pros (my first choice), a place like Help would be perfect. I don't want a typical brothel, where I choose, and the girls have no choice. I want a more GFE-experience. Other suggestions/thoughts?

2) We are on a budget, and haven't decided where to stay. Going two people, maybe renting apartment (for about one week) would maybe be best choice (at least for meeting women). We are going out at night, to bars/discos, and want to stay "centrally located". Any tips on where to rent shorttime apartment, or budget hotels where we can take women? What area would you recommend (to stay) for tourism/partying/meeting girls?

3) I have read about a few stripclubs. Are strippers in most places available for take-out (guess that is generally expensive)?

I am thankful for any help. Btw, I speak very limited portuguese (will learn a little before I go though). I speak good english and some spanish.

[Northern Guy]

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[Northern Guy]

A little back and forward here. Just wanted to delete my question number two, about apartments/hotels. There are good enough info on here already, and I will go for Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia or Pinheiros.

So, here are my updated questions:

1) Are there "normal" discos, more like Help, in SP as well? A place with many freelancers, but not a straight brothel where you do all the choosing? Does Love Story have many freelancers, or are they very hard to find there? I prefer non-pros though. Guess there will be great nightlife every night in such a big city.

2) Are strippers in stripclubs almost always available for take-out?

[Todayisnice]

I will be in Sao Paulo for two weeks. Unfortunately, I have to stay in the Marriott close to the international airport. I searched the forum, but did not see any mention of the Marriott.

Does anyone know if the Marriott is girl friendly and will let a guest stay without hassle or charge?

Does anyone know of any places close to the Marriott that are good for mongering?

Are there any good escort services that are near that area?

Thanks for any info you could provide!

[Stuartsd]

Hi,

I'm visiting SP Thursday until Sunday from the US, staying in Centro area hotel. Any fellow hobbyists want to go out on Friday or Saturday to show me some of the sites?

Steve 39yr CA

[Tom Schilders]

I will be in Sao Paulo for two weeks. Unfortunately, I have to stay in the Marriott close to the international airport. I searched the forum, but did not see any mention of the Marriott.

Does anyone know if the Marriott is girl friendly and will let a guest stay without hassle or charge?

Does anyone know of any places close to the Marriott that are good for mongering?

Are there any good escort services that are near that area?

Thanks for any info you could provide!

They must be girl friendly, because the taxi drivers have a price list which includes one of the clubs about 25 minutes drive aways from the hotel (they charge R$ 100,-- I believe, if you want them to wait it is something like R$ 150,). I forgot the name of the place, but it is a big place with about 60 women. Not the cheapest, but good value. It is in between the airport and "downtown"
cherio

[Albert Punter]

Here are my answers.

1) I don't know Help in Rio. I believe you mean discos where common people go. Yes, there are plenty. Da Mata for example is a nice place IMHO.
You said you will stay in Vila Olimpia area and there you will find a lot of bars with or without live music where people meet and it is easy to find company.

2) Sorry I don't know. Actually I don't know any strip club in SP (probably because that is not my type of place). Anyhow, I suggest that when you get in you ask to someone if girls are available for take out.


A little back and forward here. Just wanted to delete my question number two, about apartments/hotels. There are good enough info on here already, and I will go for Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia or Pinheiros.

So, here are my updated questions:

1) Are there "normal" discos, more like Help, in SP as well? A place with many freelancers, but not a straight brothel where you do all the choosing? Does Love Story have many freelancers, or are they very hard to find there? I prefer non-pros though. Guess there will be great nightlife every night in such a big city.

2) Are strippers in stripclubs almost always available for take-out?

[Okocabas]

Hi,

I will be in SP at 3rd and 4th March and will be staying at Mercure Grand Hotel SP Ibirapuera. Is it ok to bring woman to the hotel and are there nice places where I can find beautiful women?

[Adaptable]

Hi,
1) Does SP have discos like Help, where there are available freelancers? If I don't get non-pros (my first choice), a place like Help would be perfect. I don't want a typical brothel, where I choose, and the girls have no choice. I want a more GFE-experience. Other suggestions/thoughts?

2) We are on a budget, and haven't decided where to stay. Going two people, maybe renting apartment (for about one week) would maybe be best choice (at least for meeting women). We are going out at night, to bars/discos, and want to stay "centrally located". Any tips on where to rent shorttime apartment, or budget hotels where we can take women? What area would you recommend (to stay) for tourism/partying/meeting girls?

3) I have read about a few stripclubs. Are strippers in most places available for take-out (guess that is generally expensive)?

I am thankful for any help. Btw, I speak very limited portuguese (will learn a little before I go though). I speak good english and some spanish.

First off, you should know that SP is a very different environment than Rio for Mongering, in my opinion. Not only are the laws different, but also the kind of girls as well. Clubs cannot have rooms on premise, and the spa/termas are very well disguised as legitimate spas. Also, interestingly enough many girls I've been with in SP have told me that they don't like men from Rio because they are too "fresh" and "barbaric" with them. Demanding extreme services like anal or getting as much sex as possible in the alloted time. That said, I have had some incredible experiences in SP that are in some ways more enjoyable than the kind I have had in Rio. Some PSE some GFE.

Cafe Photo is the nightclub for picking up girls to take back to your hotel. There are others like this Gauguin in Brooklyn Novo, but Cafe Photo is pretty much the Gold standard. High entry fee and per drink costs, but generally very attractive women....all of which are pro. I have not heard of a place that mixes pros and non-pros in SP like Help, but Cafe Photo is outstanding as far as the quality of the girls....and you can usually spend quite a lot of time flirting and talking with them at the club. Gauguin is OK, but some nights seem to be better than others there. There are a lot of girl friendly hotels in Brooklyn Novo around Gauguin including the Hilton and Quality Inn, and it seems to be central to everything else, including the subway system. R.$10-30 cab rides can get you to most of the other hotspots in the city.

The only strip club I have heard anything good about in SP is Kilt, which is your typical American style strip club with private dance areas. I know that the girls are available for take out, but there is usually some kind of exit fee. It's not my kind of scene, so I couldn't tell you anything more. Instead, I tend to go to the upmarket spas like Francebel.... which offers upmarket girls in a massage parlor setting for about R.$300 an hour. A little bit more pricey than some of the termas in Rio, but the girls tend to be on the high end of the scale, in my opinion.....Along the lines of Centaurus or Solarium in Rio and they all tend to give good massages too. I know that there are cheaper and less sophisticated spas and strip clubs, but as a solo non-drinking guy looking for action, the spas offer the most rewarding experiences in SP. Safety is also a concern at some of the lower end places, IMO.

If your Portuguese is not good, simply write the names and addresses of the places you want to go, and most hotel based cab drivers will know how to get there. Carry your hotel's address with you as well. Once you are at the place, all of the massage places will know why you are there, and they can arrange for cabs back to your hotel. I speak good Spanish, and can have great conversations with the girls in "Portuñol".

I have not done the apartment rental thing because I tend to always go to SP and Rio on business, but many of my buddies have had success with some of the websites, paying about $1000US/week for really nice places in SP and Rio. One buddy who frequently vacations in Brazil doesn't even bother with Sao Paulo and spends his time in Rio and Buzios.

[Prosal]

I have not heard of a place that mixes pros and non-pros in SP like Help
Love Story. Rua Araujo 232 (Republica area).

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=843647&postcount=89
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844104&postcount=94

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcYSYQdkPY&NR=1


Clubs cannot have rooms on premise
Bomboa has rooms. As many other clubs in SP.

[Ricker]

... First off, you should know that SP is a very different environment than Rio for Mongering, in my opinion. Not only are the laws different, but also the kind of girls as well. Clubs cannot have rooms on premise ...

Actually there are plenty of clubs with rooms on site to have fun with a chica.
For a start, about every club down Augusta has rooms available.

[Prosal]

Anybody been there ?

It seems to be the former Conniff, but in new premises obviously. Still in Pinheiros though.

http://www.conniff.com.br/misterium/misterium2.html

[Northern Guy]

Albert Punter, Adaptable (!!), Prosal and Ricker.

Thank you very much for your input. It will be very helpful.

[Adaptable]

Actually there are plenty of clubs with rooms on site to have fun with a chica.
For a start, about every club down Augusta has rooms available.


That's interesting. I've had local guys tell me otherwise, and that the mayor cracked down on places like Bahamas a few years ago. What places on Rua Augusta specifically? I will be back in SP in March/early April.

[Voyajer1]

Casarao, Balneario, Nova Maison, and Night House, just to name a few, have room on the premises. If you include the cheapo bars on Consolacao (Carioca Bar, Deusa'a Bar and others) there are plenty of locations to indulge on site. Just watch for bright neon lights, especially on Rua Augusta.

That's interesting. I've had local guys tell me otherwise, and that the mayor cracked down on places like Bahamas a few years ago. What places on Rua Augusta specifically? I will be back in SP in March/early April.

[Adaptable]

Casarao, Balneario, Nova Maison, and Night House, just to name a few, have room on the premises. If you include the cheapo bars on Consolacao (Carioca Bar, Deusa'a Bar and others) there are plenty of locations to indulge on site. Just watch for bright neon lights, especially on Rua Augusta.

Excellent! Thank you. More adventures in SP. What time do these places get going? If I go in the early evening (8pm-10pm), will there be any action?

[Ricker]

That's interesting. I've had local guys tell me otherwise, and that the mayor cracked down on places like Bahamas a few years ago. What places on Rua Augusta specifically? I will be back in SP in March/early April.

Actually, all of them.
I was just there 2 nights ago ... up in the room.
Specifically ... Night House.

[Ricker]

Excellent! Thank you. More adventures in SP. What time do these places get going? If I go in the early evening (8pm-10pm), will there be any action?

Better after 10pm, even better after 11pm.

[Joe47]

If you visited the new local of Cafe fotos we would like to have your comments.

[Sperto]

What I find impressing in São Paulo is the wide range of P4P. At the top the places where GK hangs out, and in the bottom a scene that's so extremely low and trashy that even I wrinkle my nose. Ed Itatiaia, R d Andrades 69, BJ-cinemas and streetwalkers so ugly that they give you goose bumps.
No more wrinkling of my nose when I visit Rua dos Andrades 69.
Last week I hade one hour to kill and decided to take a look at the 9 (?) story wh#re house in centro.

Twenty year old beautiful Luana works on the second floor. Very large natural breasts which were the most firm natural breasts I ever squeezed. Very amazing! Well invested 20 reais.

What I like most with Sao Paulo is leaving it. However it's quite fun to watch the paulistas dressing in winter clothes when the temperature goes down to 17 degrees.

[Ricker]

... What I like most with Sao Paulo is leaving it ...

Hey amigo, I dig your reports, info and posts.

Not sure why you enjoy leaving Sao Paulo.
I really dig the place and am sad when I have to leave.

Taker easy ...

[Joe47]

I have been today to the new Cafe photo and It is closed.

Please any information why and when it is going to open.

[Sperto]

Hey amigo, I dig your reports, info and posts.
Not sure why you enjoy leaving Sao Paulo.
I really dig the place and am sad when I have to leave.
Taker easy ...
Sao Paulo have a lot to offer, but it's just not my cup of tea. It's to huge, rainy, "cold", polluted and stressed for my liking. When I'm there I miss Rio with it's beauty, beaches and laid back atmosphere.

[Ricker]

Sao Paulo have a lot to offer, but it's just not my cup of tea. It's to huge, rainy, "cold", polluted and stressed for my liking. When I'm there I miss Rio with it's beauty, beaches and laid back atmosphere.

Entendido ... I think, however, since I've spent quite a bit of time in SP over the past several years, I've met and made lots of friends and have gotten to know the city, I LOVE it!!

Have fun in Rio entao :)

[Voyajer1]

Sao Paolo is a huge concrete jungle. It takes a long time to get used to all of the different neighborhoods in such a gigantic metropolis. Each are has its own flavor, just like any large city; however, the people and culture are based on the business side of the country. Everything is here is fast, busy and demanding. As hard as these people work, they also have a very playful side. Their leisure activities can be from the sophisticated to the downright raunchy. Look at the extremes in the P4P game, restaurants hotels, anything you can think of under the sun. Same thing with women: You can find all types, all kinds if you take the time to look around. I know the city lacks the breathtaking beauty of Rio de Janeiro, but for variety and diversity of options, Sao Paolo is really second to none in my opinion.

Sao Paulo have a lot to offer, but it's just not my cup of tea. It's to huge, rainy, "cold", polluted and stressed for my liking. When I'm there I miss Rio with it's beauty, beaches and laid back atmosphere.

[Genghis Khan]

I have been today to the new Cafe photo and It is closed.

Please any information why and when it is going to open.

Cafe Photo is not open on Sundays.

GK

[Smokers Rule]

I went to Bamboa the other night. R200 to get in, and I'm pretty sure that counts against your drinks rather than the strict 4 drink exchange. Though with most drinks it still works out to R200 for 4 (expensive).

There were some beautiful women there, but I either got unlucky or the place is extremely expensive. First of all, they all wanted to go to the hotel to the right of the place (i.e., not to my hotel). Secondly, the prices I got quoted were R400 for an hour, R600 for all night, R450 for an hour in the hotel next door, and R800 for an hour at my hotel (3 different girls...the R450/R800 was from the same girl).

I went home and called an escort agency. They sent me an OK-looking girl for 250. Based on my single experience (which might be an outlier), I prefer Kilt to Bamboa.

[BootyTapper]

I am finally going to make my first stay in Sao Paulo and I am excited! I will be staying very close to Paulista Ave and I see its also close to Augusta. I will definitely have to check out some of the joints on Augusta.

[Bobo5]

Cafe Photo is not open on Sundays.

GK


I went out last night with a former Cafè Photo girl, she told me that the Cafè is closed and nobody knows when and if it will re-open.

Kassab, SP's major, is a bloody fag and is giving an hard time to all the fun places.

bb5

[JohnTodd]

Visited Sao Paulo, contacted Julia, everything is on the menu with her, she is there to please, she is a very bright lady her English is excellent, she also speaks, German, French, Russian and of course Portugese.
Her fee is 200 Real for 2 hours, 400 Reals for overnight.
She is about 30 yrs old, very nice body, 34C 32 34, white skin, blond hair, this was my 3rd time with her, and I will definately call her upon my return.

[Whitsit]

Visited Sao Paulo, contacted Julia, everything is on the menu with her, she is there to please, she is a very bright lady her English is excellent, she also speaks, German, French, Russian and of course Portugese.

Her fee is 200 Real for 2 hours, 400 Reals for overnight.

She is about 30 yrs old, very nice body, 34C 32 34, white skin, blond hair, this was my 3rd time with her, and I will definately call her upon my return.Got pics of her?

[Ranger5239]

John Todd,

I am heading to SP on Sunday. I searched CL for Julia but found no hits. Can you provide contact info?

Thanks for your help.

[Smokers Rule]

Definitely NOT GF. Well, I guess they are. But you have to pay a R130 fee! Ouch!

[John Dane]

Hi

Since it's my first time in SP I was wondering if there's any kind of dress code in places like Kilt / Bamboa. I was planning some nice jeans and a shirt. Is the implicit expectation something more fancy?

Any comment would be appreciated

[Albert Punter]

You will be fine


Hi

Since it's my first time in SP I was wondering if there's any kind of dress code in places like Kilt / Bamboa. I was planning some nice jeans and a shirt. Is the implicit expectation something more fancy?

Any comment would be appreciated

[Bimbo Boy]

Definitely NOT GF. Well, I guess they are. But you have to pay a R130 fee! Ouch!
Maksoud Plaza is so big, that no ones notices when you enter with a girl. Well, that's my experience.
The good thing about registering a girl is SAFETY. If the girl is registered with her ID, it is much less likely that she would commit violent crime on you. Brazil is a dangerous country after all ...
Regards. B.B.

[Smokers Rule]

This is probably true. My R130 experience was at 3 a.m., and she came to me.


Maksoud Plaza is so big, that no ones notices when you enter with a girl. Well, that's my experience.
The good thing about registering a girl is SAFETY. If the girl is registered with her ID, it is much less likely that she would commit violent crime on you. Brazil is a dangerous country after all ...
Regards. B.B.

[Genghis Khan]

I heard some rumours that Edson (the old manager of W, Jardim America, WE and W Garden) now has taken over Bon Vivant. Can anybody confirm this?

Does anybody know the current status of Garden Club/W Garden at Rua Alvorada 550, Vila Olimpia?

GK

[Genghis Khan]

I went out last night with a former Cafè Photo girl, she told me that the Cafè is closed and nobody knows when and if it will re-open.

Kassab, SP's major, is a bloody fag and is giving an hard time to all the fun places.

bb5

The old Cafe Photo location is closed and sold to real estate developers. The new Cafe Photo location is open.

GK

[Sui Generis]

I heard some rumours that Edson (the old manager of W, Jardim America, WE and W Garden) now has taken over Bon Vivant. Can anybody confirm this?

Does anybody know the current status of Garden Club/W Garden at Rua Alvorada 550, Vila Olimpia?

GK

Dear GK

Café Bon Vivant is in full force. For those who don't know this nice venue in Sampa it's the former Donna's cafe and it's located in Pinheiros (on Avenida Henrique Schaumann, near the McDonalds, if it can help to orient yourself)

Garotas are stunning. Prices are between R$300 et R$500 for a garota.

Yes, Edson is still the dono da casa. Incidentally, there was a party earlier in March to celebrate his 50th birthday (I don't remember the exact day but it was around the 17th or 18th March)

R$190...only to get in.

Link: http://www.barbonvivant.com.br/

[Columbian Lover]

Gentlemen,
I am going to be visiting SP the end of April.
I have never been to SP before.
I am going to staying at the Hilton in SP.
I wanted to know if anyone has any ladies that I could contact when I am there or if anyone has any suggestions to got to to find some Pro's or Non-Pro's.

If anyone has any phone numbers and or pictures if ladies I could call.

Thank you for your help.

TW

[Sui Generis]

Gentlemen,
I am going to be visiting SP the end of April.
I have never been to SP before.
I am going to staying at the Hilton in SP.
I wanted to know if anyone has any ladies that I could contact when I am there or if anyone has any suggestions to got to to find some Pro's or Non-Pro's.

If anyone has any phone numbers and or pictures if ladies I could call.

Thank you for your help.

TW

Hi Travelwind50

I'd like to help but unfortunately you elude the real questions

a) Do you speak Portuguese?
b) What kind of garota you're looking for? Blonde, brunette, oriental, tall, big boned, enhanced?
c) How much are you ready to pay?
d) How old are you? (If you're 20 years old any dance place in Vila Olimpia or Pinheiros would be all right to meet non-pro).

Considering that your answer is too vague I think that I can sum up my answer with this advice: read this forum and you'll find what you're looking for.

Sampa is not Rio. To really take advantage of this mega-city it's mandatory to know Portuguese. But for a beginner, venues like Café Photo, Bomboa, Bon Vivant, etc, will do the business for you.

[Columbian Lover]

In answer to your first question, no I do not speak Portugese.
As for the garota, that is a hard question. I have traveled in other areas in Central and South America and i have found all of them attractive.
As for the how much, I usually use the going rate in the area.

As for my age, 46 years old.




Hi Travelwind50

I'd like to help but unfortunately you elude the real questions

a) Do you speak Portuguese?
b) What kind of garota you're looking for? Blonde, brunette, oriental, tall, big boned, enhanced?
c) How much are you ready to pay?
d) How old are you? (If you're 20 years old any dance place in Vila Olimpia or Pinheiros would be all right to meet non-pro).

Considering that your answer is too vague I think that I can sum up my answer with this advice: read this forum and you'll find what you're looking for.

Sampa is not Rio. To really take advantage of this mega-city it's mandatory to know Portuguese. But for a beginner, venues like Café Photo, Bomboa, Bon Vivant, etc, will do the business for you.

[Sui Generis]

Considering the fact that you are 46 years old (I'm 52), one of the best place to meet non-pros garotas is 3P4 (Três por Quatro) in Itaim Bibi.

http://www.3p4.com.br/

There are other good venues like

Piratinga (149, rue Wizard in Vila madalena),
Cahsmere (679, rua Henrique Schaumann, Pinheiros)
Pirasá (64, avenida Brigadeiro Faria, Jardin)

Flirting is « paquerar » in Portuguese. Do a Google search with São Paulo and paquerar, and you'll come up with an array of answers.

One of my favorite spot for non-pro is Bourbon Street (a jazz club) in Moema.

Considering garotas de programa never pay more than $R200. Unfortunately for you, all the girls I know are Portuguese monolingual.

You can always try Patricia Kimberly because, if I'm not mistaken, she can speak English.

The only garota I know who speaks fluently English (and Italian and Spanish) is Bella. As she is not my physical type I cannot vouch for her. I spend some time with her in private parties, I can tell you that she is very clever and entertaining. (I don't what are her rates but as far as I remember there a little bit higher, around R$200-R$300). I'll try to confirm this later perusing national forums. By the way, she's in her late 30's (with kids).

http://www.malybu.com.br/acompanhante.php?garota=68

[OzzieSuds]

I have been back twenty pages looking for more details of the 'joints' mentioned on Rue Augusta. What sort of places are these and where in Rue Augusta - near to Centro area?

I ask about Rue Augusta because there seem to be quite a few reasonable hotels near there.

Can someone also give addresses for Kilt and Club Love that I believe is opposite?

[Guzzista]

I have been back twenty pages looking for more details of the 'joints' mentioned on Rue Augusta. What sort of places are these and where in Rue Augusta - near to Centro area?

I ask about Rue Augusta because there seem to be quite a few reasonable hotels near there.

Can someone also give addresses for Kilt and Club Love that I believe is opposite?Any taxi brings you to Kilt with his eyes shut. Better don't walk at night in the Rua Augusta.

[Jota Erre]

I have been back twenty pages looking for more details of the 'joints' mentioned on Rue Augusta. What sort of places are these and where in Rue Augusta - near to Centro area?

I ask about Rue Augusta because there seem to be quite a few reasonable hotels near there.

Can someone also give addresses for Kilt and Club Love that I believe is opposite?Kilt is great. Good fun. A liitle expensive, though.

And you shouldn't miss Love Story.

Kilt
R. Nestor Pestana, 266
Center/Republica
Tel: 11-3258-7407
http://www.kiltshows.com.br

Love Story.
Rua Araujo 232 (withAvenida Ipiranga) - Centro SP
http://totalspguide.com/post/1145/Love-Story/

On the other side, what I have heard about the "joints' mentioned on Rue Augusta" is that they are cheap.. but no good.

Another 2 good links:

International Sex Address & Waypoint DataBase:
http://www.isaw-db.com/map_sap.html

Bitchmaps Sao Paulo:
http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/kmz/sp.kmz

Cheers

[Sui Generis]

I have been back twenty pages looking for more details of the 'joints' mentioned on Rue Augusta. What sort of places are these and where in Rue Augusta - near to Centro area?

I ask about Rue Augusta because there seem to be quite a few reasonable hotels near there.

Can someone also give addresses for Kilt and Club Love that I believe is opposite?


Here's a link to Kilt's Web site:

http://www.kiltshows.com.br/

[OzzieSuds]

Any taxi brings you to Kilt with his eyes shut. Better don't walk at night in the Rua Augusta.

Thanks guys. Only there for two nights. Was thinking of getting a hotel on Rue Augusta near the action but maybe need to rethink that.

If you want info on SE Asia pleased to help.

[Ricker]

Any taxi brings you to Kilt with his eyes shut. Better don't walk at night in the Rua Augusta.

Well, if you don't know the area, a taxi would certainly be convenient, however, there is no problem walking down Rua Augusta.
I've been doing it for years.

As long as you"re not a moron walking about with jewelry and looking like a target, you'll be fine.
Lots of people on the street. Mostly partiers, teenagers hanging out in front of their little barzinhos, bar patrons, workers, etc.
The usual common sense precautions works fine.

It's actually a fun walk, checking out the bars and street girls.
No one bothers you, except guys trying to entice you into their club.

Have fun!!

[Auriflama]

Does anyone know a driver in Sao Paulo?

[OzzieSuds]

Well, if you don't know the area, a taxi would certainly be convenient, however, there is no problem walking down Rua Augusta.
I've been doing it for years.

As long as you"re not a moron walking about with jewelry and looking like a target, you'll be fine.
Lots of people on the street. Mostly partiers, teenagers hanging out in front of their little barzinhos, bar patrons, workers, etc.
The usual common sense precautions works fine.

It's actually a fun walk, checking out the bars and street girls.
No one bothers you, except guys trying to entice you into their club.

Have fun!!

Thanks for the encouragement. Sounds like you just have to be aware - like most places at night.

[Jota Erre]

Thanks for the encouragement. Sounds like you just have to be aware - like most places at night.Get an hotel close to Avenida Paulista. That's the best area and there are dozens of good hotels, stores, restaurants and all.

From there you can walk down by Rua Augusta to Kilt.

The area is relatively safe. But don't go at 4 am by empty streets.

Wherever there's people around you'll be in safe territory.

[Auriflama]

Renting phones in sao paulo and the metro system.

Any info on this?

Thanks

[Sui Generis]

Renting phones in sao paulo and the metro system.

Any info on this?

Thanks

Bring an old phone and put a chip you'll buy there.Some detailers may ask a CPF if you don't have one. Ask a local friend to do it for you.

The Metro system is fine and unexpensive. You can buy a bilhete único in any bancadas (or bancas de jornais = newspaper stands), in some stores (like pão de açucar) or, naturally in any metro stations.

You can put any amount of money on that card (if I remember it well, not over R$200 though)
Beware: at rush hours the metro is crowdyand it's not pleasant at all.

[Voyajer1]

It runs every 2 to 4 minutes :D


Beware: at rush hours the metro is crowdyand it's not pleasant at all.

[Auriflama]

Bring an old phone and put a chip you'll buy there.Some detailers may ask a CPF if you don't have one. Ask a local friend to do it for you.

The Metro system is fine and unexpensive. You can buy a bilhete único in any bancadas (or bancas de jornais = newspaper stands), in some stores (like pão de açucar) or, naturally in any metro stations.

You can put any amount of money on that card (if I remember it well, not over R$200 though)

Beware: at rush hours the metro is crowdyand it's not pleasant at all.I dont have a old phone. I prefer to rent for 1 week instead going through that.

[Sui Generis]

It runs every 2 to 4 minutes :D


Here's a glimpse of what the metro looks like at rush hours

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju6BHb6OStM

Actually, more than 13,000,000 passengers transit by the metro each day.

Here's a short video on the metro system in São Paulo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qL1HPnJS_E

[Auriflama]

Here's a glimpse of what the metro looks like at rush hours

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju6BHb6OStM

Actually, more than 13,000,000 passengers transit by the metro each day.

Here's a short video on the metro system in São Paulo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qL1HPnJS_EWhere can I see a detailed map of the Sao metro in the centro area.

Thanks

[Voyajer1]

I had no idea the trip looked so bad from where they filmed this. Yes, I've been in that gaggle many, many of times exploring the city. Se just happens to be one, if not the busiests stations in Sao Paolo because many lines (Incuding the recently merged CPTM with Metro lines) merge at this multiple-level, mega exchange station. Still beats the traffic outside in my opinion. Just push and fight your way on like a local.

Here's a glimpse of what the metro looks like at rush hours

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju6BHb6OStM

Actually, more than 13,000,000 passengers transit by the metro each day.

Here's a short video on the metro system in São Paulo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qL1HPnJS_E

[Voyajer1]

Use this link and click on Sao Paolo for the information you seek.

http://www.urbanrail.net/index.html
Where can I see a detailed map of the Sao metro in the centro area.

Thanks

[Sui Generis]

Wow Voyajer1!

Thanks, this link is so cool!

[Auriflama]

Use this link and click on Sao Paolo for the information you seek.

http://www.urbanrail.net/index.htmlThanks for that valueable info. How is the bus system in Sao Paulo?

[Voyajer1]

If you use the bus system, I want you to explain it to me. I've been going there for years and I don't get it. Plus, you get stuck with the traffic during peak hours. But if you want the information, here is the link. Good luck!!!
http://www.emtu.sp.gov.br/



Thanks for that valueable info. How is the bus system in Sao Paulo?

[Sui Generis]

I transit frequently thru the bus system. It's fine when you know how it works. For that you have to know thre city. As I stay in Moema there's three paradas (bus stops) that are very usefull.

One of them is located on Ibirapuera. If I want to go to the nearest metro station, I just pick up a bus heading toward Santa Cruz (the destination is written in the upper front of the bus) or Praça da Arvore. If, instead I want to go directly to centro, I pick up a bus heading toward Praça da Sé or Anhagabu.

The other one is located on Santo Amaro and Eucaliptus (Eucaliptus parada). If I want to go to Novo Brooklin I just pick up a bus going that way. If I want to go to the other direction any bus where Pinheiros is written on it is good.

The third parada (it's jus a bus stop) is on the corner of Araguari and Pavão, just next to where I stay. That bus is going to the Ana Rosa subway station.

Learn the different districts of Sampa and the name and location of the metro stations or big destination and you'll be able to orient yourself.

As usual, avoid busses at rush hours. Read some of posts because I refer to the problem of going out of Moema at rush hours.

[Auriflama]

If you use the bus system, I want you to explain it to me. I've been going there for years and I don't get it. Plus, you get stuck with the traffic during peak hours. But if you want the information, here is the link. Good luck!!!
http://www.emtu.sp.gov.br/Ha ha thanks, I definitely wont hop on some strange bus. If I can get some help while I am there from friends I will do it.

[Auriflama]

I am thinking about staying in these flats when in Sao Paulo. Let me know if you think these are nice areas. Or acceptable areas

R Major Diogo 39

R Santo Amaro 383

[Auriflama]

I see on that site they have buses from Guarulhos Airport to metro tatuape stop for 3.80 real and buses from guar to hotels on augusta and paulista for 31.00 real

[Sui Generis]

I am thinking about staying in these flats when in Sao Paulo. Let me know if you think these are nice areas. Or acceptable areas

R Major Diogo 39

R Santo Amaro 383

Manute Bol

It's a question of taste but I think that the flat on Santo Amaro 383 would be a far better spot than the one on Major Diogo 39.

Santo Amaro 383 is located in Itaim Bibi which is a safer district than República. From Santo Amaro it's quite easy to take a bus and go to any destination in the city. Moreover, there's a lot of nightlife activities (non-pro) going on in Itaim Bibi. In Itaim Bibi you're not far from good massage parlors that are good and they worth the visit.

República is a district with a kind of bad reputation.

On the other hand, in República - on the Rua Major Diogo - you're a lot closer to the centro, Rua Augusta and different sex venues. The street is also more quiet.

But I'll repeat myself: it comes down to a question of taste.

[Auriflama]

Manute Bol

It's a question of taste but I think that the flat on Santo Amaro 383 would be a far better spot than the one on Major Diogo 39.

Santo Amaro 383 is located in Itaim Bibi which is a safer district than República. From Santo Amaro it's quite easy to take a bus and go to any destination in the city. Moreover, there's a lot of nightlife activities (non-pro) going on in Itaim Bibi. In Itaim Bibi you're not far from good massage parlors that are good and they worth the visit.

República is a district with a kind of bad reputation.

On the other hand, in República - on the Rua Major Diogo - you're a lot closer to the centro, Rua Augusta and different sex venues. The street is also more quiet.

But I'll repeat myself: it comes down to a question of taste.Do you have any other suggestions for flats?

Also where the favales in the centro area to avoid?

Thanks for the advice

[Sui Generis]

Do you have any other suggestions for flats?

Also where the favales in the centro area to avoid?

Thanks for the advice

There's no favelas per se in centro. Most of them are located at the outskirts of the city. There's one with bad reputation just next to one of the nicest and richest district of São Paulo:

Here's a link to a Web page with a short video showing a view of Morumbi's favela

http://imageevent.com/jennifersantiago/insideasaopaulofavela




The problem with Centro is that there's a lot of homeless people and some of them are targetting easy prey when they want to earn quick and easy money.

There are always pocket of poverty where there are cortiços (very low income housings)

There are some good flats to rent near Avenida Paulista and Consoilação

[Auriflama]

There's no favelas per se in centro. Most of them are located at the outskirts of the city. There's one with bad reputation just next to one of the nicest and richest district of São Paulo:

Here's a link to a Web page with a short video showing a view of Morumbi's favela

http://imageevent.com/jennifersantiago/insideasaopaulofavela

The problem with Centro is that there's a lot of homeless people and some of them are targetting easy prey when they want to earn quick and easy money.

There are always pocket of poverty where there are cortiços (very low income housings)

There are some good flats to rent near Avenida Paulista and ConsoilaçãoWhen you say problem with homeless people does that include all streets in that area. I would like to get a idea from sao paulo traveler as yourself. I mean even around the santo amore rua area is all-out dangerous?

I mean I saw that map where crackolandia has over 25 blocks outlined. Thats a huge area just for crack users. What other blocks in the day time should i avoid.

[Prosal]

When you say problem with homeless people does that include all streets in that area. I would like to get a idea from sao paulo traveler as yourself. I mean even around the santo amore rua area is all-out dangerous?
I've walked 100 times from N.Pestena strip bars to Love Story - i.e. a ten minutes walk - at 2am without ever never having a problem.

As for your question about av Santo Amaro, you absolutely don't have to worry. Itaim Bibi is - almost - as safe as Monaco.

The fact is that Sao Paulo is NOT Rio. Apart from some definite places in Centro like crackolandia (and apart from periferias), it's a pretty safe place. By brasilian standarts.

[Northern Guy]

Hi,

I have searched around the net, including on here. I have gotten some answers, but still I have a few questions about where to stay in SP. We are travelling two people, or maybe just me. We/I prefer freebies, but have mongering as a backup/adding to this. We want to experience the city as tourists, and also meet local women. We are about 30 yo from Denmark. We prefer renting an apartment, for practical reasons. So basically. Where should we stay, and where should we book an apartment (yes, I have already searched a bit on the net). We want.

- fast and cheap access to Love Story (for picking up locals).

- an area with good nightlife, where we can meet local girls, and have fun.

- preferably close to the metro, to easily travel around at daytime.

- we prefer basic and budget accomodation, as long as it's ok.

I know that Love Story is in Centro. So close to that sounds good. Vila Madalena has a metro, and may be a good spot. Is that a long taxiride to Love Story? Any tips on good companies that rent out apartments?

[BionicMan]

I've walked 100 times from N.Pestena strip bars to Love Story - i.e. a ten minutes walk - at 2am without ever never having a problem.

As for your question about av Santo Amaro, you absolutely don't have to worry. Itaim Bibi is - almost - as safe as Monaco.

The fact is that Sao Paulo is NOT Rio. Apart from some definite places in Centro like crackolandia (and apart from periferias), it's a pretty safe place. By brasilian standarts.I second this
I have been around at 3am in some areas, taking a cab, never been ripped off, always feeling secure.
The advantage is that with a nice night life and corner bars open till late (or early in the day), there are sufficient watching dog to prevent spot crime.
SP has still some degree of danger even daytime: do not drive your car with a nice watch on the arm leaning outside the car window, set the door lock on your car while driving, be a bit attentive on some motorcycle guys who might have some bad idea to stop you and rob you
I feel safe in SP than in Miami, for sureAs any metropolis these towns have some bad areas. Just avoid them.

[Auriflama]

Hi,

I have searched around the net, including on here. I have gotten some answers, but still I have a few questions about where to stay in SP. We are travelling two people, or maybe just me. We/I prefer freebies, but have mongering as a backup/adding to this. We want to experience the city as tourists, and also meet local women. We are about 30 yo from Denmark. We prefer renting an apartment, for practical reasons. So basically. Where should we stay, and where should we book an apartment (yes, I have already searched a bit on the net). We want.

- fast and cheap access to Love Story (for picking up locals).

- an area with good nightlife, where we can meet local girls, and have fun.

- preferably close to the metro, to easily travel around at daytime.

- we prefer basic and budget accomodation, as long as it's ok.

I know that Love Story is in Centro. So close to that sounds good. Vila Madalena has a metro, and may be a good spot. Is that a long taxiride to Love Story? Any tips on good companies that rent out apartments?Apts Sao Paulo

www.aluguetemporada.com.br

[Prosal]

- fast and cheap access to Love Story (for picking up locals).

- an area with good nightlife, where we can meet local girls, and have fun.

- preferably close to the metro, to easily travel around at daytime.
"Baixo Augusta" (the area that stretches along Rua Augusta and the two parallels that flank it, Rua Bela Cintra and Rua Frei Caneca) suit all those requests.

It's a friendly and "in" neo-bohemian neighborhood, and location can't be beat, at walking distance to Jardins, really close to Centro and not far to Pinheiros.

[Auriflama]

Any listing on where sao paulo football clubs play in the surronding centro area? I would like to catch a game if possible. I also would like to check out the sao paulo pro basketball league if its still going on when I am there.

[Chan Nimal]

Bom Dia Sui.

I think they "bull dozed" the favela in Morumbi.

More high rises coming


There's no favelas per se in centro. Most of them are located at the outskirts of the city. There's one with bad reputation just next to one of the nicest and richest district of São Paulo:

Here's a link to a Web page with a short video showing a view of Morumbi's favela

http://imageevent.com/jennifersantiago/insideasaopaulofavela

The problem with Centro is that there's a lot of homeless people and some of them are targetting easy prey when they want to earn quick and easy money.

There are always pocket of poverty where there are cortiços (very low income housings)

There are some good flats to rent near Avenida Paulista and Consoilação

[Chan Nimal]

Sui. Any updated info on a young morena you mentioned: Nicole Fernandes? Her listing is not on CM and I have a soft spot for morenas who are GFE.

Thanks!

[Sui Generis]

Sui. Any updated info on a young morena you mentioned: Nicole Fernandes? Her listing is not on CM and I have a soft spot for morenas who are GFE.

Thanks!

Is seems that she's out of buiseness since a month at least.

Check your PM, I've send you her phone number but hobbyists in Brazil have problems to get in touch with her.

The las time I've heard from her she was still living near Ibirapuera shopping Center.

[Sui Generis]

Bom Dia Sui.

I think they "bull dozed" the favela in Morumbi.

More high rises coming

Thanks a lot Chan Nimal, I was not aware of that.

This blog gives credit to your info

http://www.hattuchili.com/2007/10/27/favelas_in_sao_paulo~3203923/

[Auriflama]

Any update on samba clubs in SP?

thanks

[Hobbying]

Anybody in with the management there?

I got my credit card and cell phone stolen by a con artist girl there.

I want to make sure she doesn't work there again so she doesn't do it to anybody else.

[Prosal]

Any update on samba clubs in SP?
http://vejasp.abril.com.br/bares

BTW, it seems that most of your posts here are only questions, that furthermore could VERY easily find answers just by googling or buying a LP guide.

Maybe you should restrain posting until you ACTUALLY go to Sao Paulo and can then report something of added value. If that ever happens.

[Auriflama]

http://vejasp.abril.com.br/bares

BTW, it seems that most of your posts here are only questions, that furthermore could VERY easily find answers just by googling or buying a LP guide.

Maybe you should restrain posting until you ACTUALLY go to Sao Paulo and can then report something of added value. If that ever happens.Then dont answer then ok? I dontneed your bad attitude and disrespectful comments plus a lecture. I was just looking for an update if there was anything new. Thats what this board is for since you own right?

Maybe you have a personal problem. Also you dont own this board so dont tell what I can do and not do ok?

There is not enough info about to begin with about sp and there should be a 2 or more sections for info.

[Genghis Khan]

Anybody in with the management there?

I got my credit card and cell phone stolen by a con artist girl there.

I want to make sure she doesn't work there again so she doesn't do it to anybody else.

Just go there and ask to talk to the management. Tell them what happended. They are professional. How as new Cafe Photo compared to the old one?

GK

[BionicMan]

Then dont answer then ok? I dontneed your bad attitude and disrespectful comments plus a lecture. I was just looking for an update if there was anything new. Thats what this board is for since you own right?

Maybe you have a personal problem. Also you dont own this board so dont tell what I can do and not do ok?

There is not enough info about to begin with about sp and there should be a 2 or more sections for info.looks the attitude is a bit more yours.
You can get an update for anything new just by RTFF... the board is for posting and reading
You'll get all your answers here, by RTFF

[Hobbying]

Just go there and ask to talk to the management. Tell them what happended. They are professional. How as new Cafe Photo compared to the old one?

GKI'm not in Brasil now.

I can call them but I don't know how seriously they will take it.

The new place is huge, much bigger than the old place.

[Bimbo Boy]

The Best site for Escort in Sao paulo and in Brazil - http://www.escortgirl.com.br
Enter in check out the best models for country
http://www.escortgirl.com.br
Shitty website. Trying to sell you information that you get elsewhere for free. Pictures in Flash just to make sure that people can't save them.

[Ricker]

looks the attitude is a bit more yours.
You can get an update for anything new just by RTFF... the board is for posting and reading
You'll get all your answers here, by RTFF

Hey, let´s keep the bickering on the Rio forum!
The Sao Paulo forum is usually pretty tranquilo :)

[Auriflama]

Looks the attitude is a bit more yours.

You can get an update for anything new just by RTFF... the board is for posting and reading.

You'll get all your answers here, by RTFFI know you want to defend your friend but your just being biased and dont make any sense. How are you gonna tell me what this board is for? So what your saying is that this board is not for information right? There was no purpose for you to make this post.

[Prosal]

How are you gonna tell me what this board is for?

Where can I see a detailed map of the Sao metro?
Samba clubs in SP?
Where sao paulo football clubs play?
How is the bus system in Sao Paulo?
A question for you guys flying to brazil. How long does it take for your body to adjust to Brazil's atmosphere?
Ect, ectMB, listen, go buy a LP guide or learn to use google, Jesus Fucking Christ!

This board is certainly not made to ask ridiculous questions - 90% of your posts - like your request on the metro map, for which a single google search gives 470 000 anwers!

And instead of arguing and pontificating about what ISG is for, you'd better first participate to the costs and pay the $19,95/year contribution to be a senior member!

And ACTUALLY travel (if this ever happens). Or get a life!

[Auriflama]

MB, listen, fool, go buy a LP guide or learn to use google, Jesus Fucking Christ!

This board is certainly not made to ask ridiculous questions - 90% of your posts - like your request on the metro map, for which a single google search gives 470 000 anwers!

And instead of arguing and pontificating about what ISG is for, you'd better first participate to the costs of the board and pay the $19,95/year to be a senior member, you clown!

And ACTUALLY travel (if this ever happens). Or get a life!Your a trouble maker and your doing it for no reason. Whats wrong with having information for everyone to see? There are is not enough information about sao paulo to begin with and anything adds to this thread.

For some unknown reason how have self appointed yourself KING of this board.

stop being a crybaby whiner I didnt do anything wrong by asking for information and I dont need you to tell me to go to google. I tell you what you go to google and type in respect because you dont know what the word means.

[Tommy America]

Any chance we can get back to the actual intent of this forum?

[BionicMan]

Any chance we can get back to the actual intent of this forum?yeah..when somebody has read the 660 posts and 44 pages of this year... Now it is kindergarten time :)

[Genghis Khan]

Hey guys,

Whats up with this RTFF attitude? You are behaving like uneducated teenagers. If you think a question or a post uninteresting, just ignore it and leave the moderation to the moderators.

It is this kind of unfriendly and non-including attitude which has made it unattractive to spend time writing reports from my last trips. It is not worth it.

GK

[Prosal]

Hey guys,

Whats up with this RTFF attitude? You are behaving like uneducated teenagers. If you think a question or a post uninteresting, just ignore it and leave the moderation to the moderators.
Where can I see a map of Sao Paulo ?

[Genghis Khan]

Yes I do get the point. To questions like that you either post a link to a map or you ignore the question. No need to behave like a moderator when you are not.

GK

[Prosal]

To questions like that you either post a link to a map or you ignore the question
No need to behave like a moderator when you are not.
I see. But now you are yourself, with this injunction, erecting rules and behaving like a moderator/mollah.

[Auriflama]

Where can I see a map of Sao Paulo ?See that now why dont you do this board a service and delete your negative bad vibe responses. The fact that gengis khan who has provided great stuff on sao paulo over the years wont post his reports proves your mean spirited responses are not needed. I dont need you tell me about google and thats shows what kind of vindictive person you are that you would actually spend your time telling about a search engine instead of giving information. How do you know google has the information I am looking for. Not every last spot is on search engines. Sometimes there are underground spots.

Your not gonna push me around on this thread as if you claimed some sort of real estate. Like I said delete your responses because they are a disgrace.

[Genghis Khan]

If you don't see the differance between my reaction to your tone of voice which clearly keeps contributors away and creates a hostile environment and your arrogance to a simple question from someone seeking information on SP (which this forum clearly is all about), then I almost feel sorry for you.

GK

[BionicMan]

a simple question from someone seeking information on SP (which this forum clearly is all about), then I almost feel sorry for you.

GKmay I make one more point (and then I cut this or we really get boring) as I am one having reacted.
The forum is about information. 100% correct.
But it is not an info booth or a Q&A or a FAQ location.
As I said, just in 2010, there are 44 pages and nearly 700 posts (some useless, I know, just a bit of chit-chat), but also keep the forum alive)
I think there is sufficient material to pick up nearly any information one is looking for.
I reckon it is better to spend time in providing the infos one is aware of and on regular basis, rather than spending it in "opening and attending an info booth" to serve incoming questions.
If somebody spent the time to fill in report, don't you think that somebody else (the inquirer) can spend his time in RTFF? Especially when he comes out with very generic question?
It is nothing special here.
RTFF is an official abbreviation here
It does not come out of the blue and not for nothing....!

this is my last point on this issue..:)

[Genghis Khan]

Prosal,

Yes, I do get that point but it is not your decision nor your place to comment on what is of value and allowed on the forum and what is not.

Bionicman,

You are just putting your individual opinion forward. It is however not for you to decide.


There is very little activity on mongering on the SP forum anyway. Almost all the regular contributors with well written and informative information are gone. Why fight over someone asking simple questions when hardly anyone (except Sui Generis) has something valuable to share anyway.

...and are reactions like RTFF something which might make this forum better with more valuable posts? I think it creates an environment where you think more than twice before you share instead of being a forum where you are eager to share with similar interested people.

GK

[Jake993]

One of my very favorite Mineiras (whom I actually met in HELP) told me last week that she is going to go to SP for "work". She is a student at UFMG and has been working at HELP on and off for a few years now on long weekends and holidays. She does not work the clubs in BH because it's her home town but has no problem plying her second trade (and primary source of income) in Rio.

But alas, with HELP closing down, she says that it's nearly impossible for her to make a go of coming to Rio to earn money as a GDP. She's a real stunner (IMHO) but can't make the commitment to work at a place like Barbarella's so she's has tried Balcony as a back up and it's just getting to be too competitive. She says that the environment is too combative as well. At least at HELP, there was enough space that all the girls could spread out and not be standing on top of each other the way it seems to be now at Balcony.

So, as I said earlier, since Rio is no longer to her liking, she is going to try working in SP and joining the scene there. My question is this - where does a newcomer to the SP business have the best chance of getting "traction"? I have only mongered in SP a couple of times and have visited only Romanza (disaster) and Cafe Foto. Anyone have any suggestions where my favorite little part time GDP can go an practice the world's oldest profession? She's a very classy, buffed, 24 year old with perhaps the best boob job I have ever seen. Cleans up real nice and is almost the kind of girl you could bring home to mama (no, not really). I told her to check out the "employment opportunities" at CF, Cafe Gaugin, and Kilt but now being a regular in SP I am afraid that my advice to her is a bit limited.

Thanks, in advance, to anyone who can offer constructive suggestions to the plight of our little amiga. I am sure there are plenty of them who are looking for a new place to work.

BTW - I have "read the fucking forum" ;) but it's hard to get a real feel for what some these places are really like if you have not been there.

Cheers,

Jake

[Ricker]

Where can I see a map of Sao Paulo ?

Either GOOGLE it or RTFF :)

[Prosal]

Either GOOGLE it or RTFF :)
I don't like the tone of your answer. Cool down. You are not a moderator here. My question was totally legitimate, didn't deserved this kind of unfriendly and arrogant attitude that creates a hostile environment and is only a huge turn-off.

:D:p;)

[Ricker]

I don't like the tone of your answer. Cool down. You are not a moderator here. My question was totally legitimate, and didn't deserved this kind of unfriendly and arrogant attitude that creates a hostile environment and is only a huge turn-off.

:D:p;)

Man I have to admit, this reply had me laughing ... LMAO actually.
Good way to add some humor and end the blah blah bickering ... rsrsrsrs. :)

Guys I have to say, maybe the SP reports have been lacking a bit lately, except senhor Sangue Bon of course.

I'm on my way back tomorrow to SP, fresh from almost 2 weeks in Medellin, Colombia and I'll make a nice comparison.

Before my Colombia trip, I met maybe the most beautiful garota I'd been with in Brasil, in Casarao on Augusta. Nope you don't need to pay top dollar for top quality.
Paid 120 R total including the room and will call her when I get to SP for some hotel fun. Hopefully fotos vem.

In Colombia, I met the most beautiful chica in a low-end casa. I was stunned really. Once again showing what you can find without spending muito.

Ate logo ...

[Auriflama]

Man I have to admit, this reply had me laughing ... LMAO actually.
Good way to add some humor and end the blah blah bickering ... rsrsrsrs. :)

Guys I have to say, maybe the SP reports have been lacking a bit lately, except senhor Sangue Bon of course.

I'm on my way back tomorrow to SP, fresh from almost 2 weeks in Medellin, Colombia and I'll make a nice comparison.

Before my Colombia trip, I met maybe the most beautiful garota I'd been with in Brasil, in Casarao on Augusta. Nope you don't need to pay top dollar for top quality.
Paid 120 R total including the room and will call her when I get to SP for some hotel fun. Hopefully fotos vem.

In Colombia, I met the most beautiful chica in a low-end casa. I was stunned really. Once again showing what you can find without spending muito.

Ate logo ...There is no bickering its just 1 trouble maker with a bad attitude who needs an adjustment.

[Auriflama]

I just dont understand why idiots likes amatuerposal and bionicwoman dont just put someone on ignore or just go to make their own threads. Why take time out of your busy day to try and correct someone and be anal retenative about how people post on here. It truly amazes that these guys have so much time to go on and on about absolutely nothing.

[Jota Erre]

For those of you that spek some spanish there's a cool forum about Sao Paulo:

http://foro.forosx.com/brasil-sao-paulo-sp-t16906.html

Enjoy.

[Ricker]

I just dont understand why idiots likes amatuerposal and bionicwoman dont just put someone on ignore or just go to make their own threads. Why take time out of your busy day to try and correct someone and be anal retenative about how people post on here. It truly amazes that these guys have so much time to go on and on about absolutely nothing.

Amigo, you take this stuff way too serious.

I've been on this ISG for years, of course I've been blasted at times by guys.
I either ignore or use a little humor to make lght of it.
All types of dudes on this site, not everyone's going to think or act the same.

Big deal, move on, have fun.
That's all that really matters.

Take care ... :)

[Albert Punter]

This link appears to be dead, at least to me.


For those of you that spek some spanish there's a cool forum about Sao Paulo:

http://foro.forosx.com/brasil-sao-paulo-sp-t16906.html

Enjoy.

[Sui Generis]

Albert Punter,

It works for me.

[Jota Erre]

This link appears to be dead, at least to me.I checked it out and it works fine now. Maybe it was a temporary failure.

http://foro.forosx.com/brasil-sao-paulo-sp-t16906.html

Also there's another cool one about Bahia, Brazil:

http://foro.forosx.com/brasil-bahia-con-h-t16677.html

Cheers.

[Mahal]

Beside the heavy rain that is falling over São Paulo (this year was probably the worst year of all time) I'd like to report another sad news:

Since the beginning of December (more exactly Saturday 12th 2009) Clinica Kin is closed.

They're planning to reopen the joint in January.
Can anyone confirm if Clinica Kin has reopened, could not find any reports since the December announcement, I went there in January and it was still closed. Thanks.

[Safado Lover]

Another link to a Brazil spanish forum. Some reports from Rio de Janeiro, Salvador de Bahia, Natal.

Link to the Brazil forum:

http://foro.putalocura.com/foro/turismo-sexual/28896-brasil-ver-creer-ir-sonar.html

Link to reports (Brazil and another countries):

http://foro.putalocura.com/foro/turismo-sexual/92896-experiencias-around-world-normas-el-1-post.html

Link to genereal sex tourism forum: (check especially Thailand, Philippines, Colombia, Cuba ...)

http://foro.putalocura.com/foro/putas/turismo-sexual/

Regards.

[Sui Generis]

Can anyone confirm if Clinica Kin has reopened, could not find any reports since the December announcement, I went there in January and it was still closed. Thanks.

Hi Mahal,

Kin is in activity since a long time. I think they reopened the first week of Janurary (January 4th I guess).

[Mahal]

Hi Mahal,

Kin is in activity since a long time. I think they reopened the first week of Janurary (January 4th I guess).
Thanks SG, much appreciated. I was not sure because their website is down and I did not see any reports. I will make sure to post one when I get back.

[Davis150]

I usually stay at the Ca'D'Oro, which offers a huge suite at a reasonable price, in central Sao Paulo, but I think they might be closed for renovations. I stayed at the Mecure in Jardims and hated it -- small room and paper thin walls... anybody have any recommendations? Thanks.

[Sui Generis]

Thanks SG, much appreciated. I was not sure because their website is down and I did not see any reports. I will make sure to post one when I get back.

You're right their site is under manutention. Didn't go there by myself since a long time because now I prefer Espaço Morumbi.

[Sui Generis]

I usually stay at the Ca'D'Oro, which offers a huge suite at a reasonable price, in central Sao Paulo, but I think they might be closed for renovations. I stayed at the Mecure in Jardims and hated it -- small room and paper thin walls... anybody have any recommendations? Thanks.


Davis150

Hotel Renaissance, in Jardim, is quite fine.

http://hoteis.marriott.com.br/hotels/travel/saobr-renaissance-sao-paulo-hotel/

[Bearsk]

I stayed there, it was very good.
Not sure about GF and the how you get a girl to your room.
Comment, SG?



Davis150

Hotel Renaissance, in Jardim, is quite fine.

http://hoteis.marriott.com.br/hotels/travel/saobr-renaissance-sao-paulo-hotel/

[Sperto]

Has anyone seen any big tits in San Paulo? Do share, please ... :)
If you're a fan of large beautiful tits I recommend Luana.
Absolute amazing natural tits!
The place is sleazy and trashy, but it's worth a visit just because of playing with Luanas melons. R$ 20 for a session.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=996500&postcount=584

[Sui Generis]

I stayed there, it was very good.
Not sure about GF and the how you get a girl to your room.
Comment, SG?

Habitually I meet the girl at the front door and she comes with me without registering. The last time I was there was 5 years ago. I guess you can still do it that way.

[Prosal]

Habitually I meet the girl at the front door and she comes with me without registering. The last time I was there was 5 years ago. I guess you can still do it that way.
A megapole - and P4P heaven - like Sao Paulo deserves its own "Hotels & Apartments" ISG thread in my opinion.

With a sticky big bold headline "ALL HOTELS IN SAO PAULO ARE GIRL FRIENDLY", so that the question is definitively resolved!

[Smokers Rule]

"ALL HOTELS IN SAO PAULO ARE GIRL FRIENDLY", so that the question is definitively resolved!

I sincerely doubt this is true. Also, it may depend on your definition of "girl friendliness" is. If requiring a large fee means non-girl-friendly, then this statement is definitely false.

[Hughdad]

I usually stay at the Ca'D'Oro, which offers a huge suite at a reasonable price, in central Sao Paulo, but I think they might be closed for renovations. I stayed at the Mecure in Jardims and hated it -- small room and paper thin walls... anybody have any recommendations? Thanks.Try Ibis hotels. Av. Paulista location is great and R$160 per night.

[Auriflama]

A megapole - and P4P heaven - like Sao Paulo deserves its own "Hotels & Apartments" ISG thread in my opinion.

With a sticky big bold headline "ALL HOTELS IN SAO PAULO ARE GIRL FRIENDLY", so that the question is definitively resolved!Again making posts like this as if your superior to others and trying to be the DON of this board. No one is that ABOVE everyone else where they should make posts like this. Just mean spirited responses that chase people away from writing trip reports and giving other info. I guess your happy since you think you bought a percentage of this board with your contribution.

[Prosal]

I sincerely doubt this is true. Also, it may depend on your definition of "girl friendliness" is. If requiring a large fee means non-girl-friendly, then this statement is definitely false.
Saw your post about Maksoud, when you've been swindled by the hotel's night shift ... sorry for you. This is undeniably not a pleasant experience. I stayed there once and brought back meninas from Love Story two nights in a row without any problems. This was, admittedly, a few years ago, so things could have changed.

Anyhow,if you can name a hotel in SP where girls are NOT allowed even with a fee (which is the usual meaning of "girl nonfriendliness"), I'll officially apologize for the misinformation.

[John Corey]

I stayed there, it was very good.
Not sure about GF and the how you get a girl to your room.
Comment, SG?

There is security by the elevators and they will ask you to register your guest and she has to present her ID at the reception which is photocopied by them. If you meet your guest by the front door there a 50-50 chance security will let her go up with you without asking for her credentials.

[Smokers Rule]

I was not swindled by the night shift. I had a girl visit me late at night from an escort service, and I had to pay the fee. I did not argue. That's how it goes at some hotels.

What I'm saying is that a blanket statement that "All hotels in SP are girl-friendly" is not really true, at least in my view, because of experiences like mine.

There are different levels of girl-friendliness. For example, some hotels allow you to have more than one girl. Some only permit one. Some charge for girls, some don't. Some don't allow girls at all. In Cuba, they don't allow girls at all, but you can always bribe security. In some hotels, you can sneak girls in or simply have them accompany you with no hassle. In others, this is not possible. What I am saying is that there is a continuum of girl-friendliness, and Sao Paulo does not fall at either end of it.


Saw your post about Maksoud, when you've been swindled by the hotel's night shift ... sorry for you. This is undeniably not a pleasant experience. I stayed there once and brought back meninas from Love Story two nights in a row without any problems. This was, admittedly, a few years ago, so things could have changed.

Anyhow,if you can name a hotel in SP where girls are NOT allowed even with a fee (which is the usual meaning of "girl nonfriendliness"), I'll officially apologize for the misinformation.

[Prosal]

There are different levels of girl-friendliness. For example, some hotels allow you to have more than one girl. Some only permit one. Some charge for girls, some don't. Some don't allow girls at all. In Cuba, they don't allow girls at all, but you can always bribe security. In some hotels, you can sneak girls in or simply have them accompany you with no hassle. In others, this is not possible. What I am saying is that there is a continuum of girl-friendliness
You're quibbling.

:rolleyes:

[Davis150]

Sorry guys, didn't mean to start a quibble. I believe Mecure charged me a guest fee and that added up big time. Anybody with a recent trip who can report? Ibis' rooms look a bit small, but that's a hell of a price. I don't mind guests having to check in, but would prefer to avoid a fee, and prefer a suite with a couple of rooms. Appreciate the help and suggestions so far.

[OzzieSuds]

Saw your post about Maksoud, when you've been swindled by the hotel's night shift ... sorry for you. This is undeniably not a pleasant experience. I stayed there once and brought back meninas from Love Story two nights in a row without any problems. This was, admittedly, a few years ago, so things could have changed.

Anyhow,if you can name a hotel in SP where girls are NOT allowed even with a fee (which is the usual meaning of "girl nonfriendliness"), I'll officially apologize for the misinformation.

To me GF around the globe means no joiner fee or extra charge at all. An ID check is good but is part of the service. To me any fee at all is tending towards non-GF.

[Sui Generis]

Sorry guys, didn't mean to start a quibble. I believe Mecure charged me a guest fee and that added up big time. Anybody with a recent trip who can report? Ibis' rooms look a bit small, but that's a hell of a price. I don't mind guests having to check in, but would prefer to avoid a fee, and prefer a suite with a couple of rooms. Appreciate the help and suggestions so far.

Try any hotel under this banner. They don't mind if you have a guest in your room

http://www.travelinn.com.br/redehoteis.asp

[Hughdad]

Sorry guys, didn't mean to start a quibble. I believe Mecure charged me a guest fee and that added up big time. Anybody with a recent trip who can report? Ibis' rooms look a bit small, but that's a hell of a price. I don't mind guests having to check in, but would prefer to avoid a fee, and prefer a suite with a couple of rooms. Appreciate the help and suggestions so far.Yes rooms are small, but mice for short stays. Can't beat the location. Ask where the 24 hour corner bakery is. Great food. The soup buffet is off the hook.

[Auriflama]

Driving in Sao Paulo.

I thought this was interesting how someone filmed driving from Morumbi to the airport.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksOgimAhLAA&playnext_from=TL&videos=IydfcIVgCO8

[Smokers Rule]

You're quibbling.

:rolleyes:

Not at all. This is a serious distinction. A SP newbie needs to investigate about whether/how much/how often his hotel charges a fee. I made my post in an attempt to alert people to this fact.

This is not anything personal against you, by the way. I know what you mean and agree. If you come back with a girl in SP, you are very likely to have no problems. You may, in some cases and under some circumstances, have to pay a fee. That's all.

[Jota Erre]

Not at all. This is a serious distinction. A SP newbie needs to investigate about whether/how much/how often his hotel charges a fee. I made my post in an attempt to alert people to this fact.

This is not anything personal against you, by the way. I know what you mean and agree. If you come back with a girl in SP, you are very likely to have no problems. You may, in some cases and under some circumstances, have to pay a fee. That's all.

I agree with that. And it's one of the bigger differences between Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo.

In Rio, you better check with the hotel, because in most cases you're not allowed to bring a lady friend to your room.

In Sao Paulo instead, at most, you'd have to pay a small fee.

Big difference.

[Jota Erre]

Another link to a Brazil spanish forum. Some reports from Rio de Janeiro, Salvador de Bahia, Natal.

Long time, no see... Gato Safado.

Hey... it's a small world after all. ..........Innit?

Give my best regards to Mala Vida.

All the best.

Bondy

[Steve Naive]

Where can I see a map of Sao Paulo ?
here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Sao+Paulo+-+S%C3%A3o+Paulo,+Brazil&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=60.246331,74.443359&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=S%C3%A3o+Paulo,+Brazil&ll=-23.548881,-46.638336&spn=0.069241,0.072699&z=14

[Member #3439]

Where can I see a map of Sao Paulo ?

http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/kmz/sp.kmz

[Jota Erre]

Another map.

Another way of seeing Sao Paulo.

This one from the International Sex Address & Waypoint DataBase.

http://www.isaw-db.com/map_sap.html

[Northern Guy]

Interesting to see the discussion about girlfriendly hotels in SP, as I was wondering about it. My plan A is to session with non-pros, like from Love Story or other places (like everywhere), but also hit a stripclub or two. And if the non-pro plan fails (which I doubt), I will consider brothels too.

I was thinking about hotels Plaza or Joamar in Centro, but maybe the location is a little bad. Well, a little bad location probably make them very girlfriendly, or not? I am also considering apt, but then it's better to stay more people. I am also thinking about hostels, as they are generally more social, give very good tourist advices, and are cheaper (I'm early 30s BTW). But then I will definately have to bring any girl to (love) motels.

So then. How long are they usually rented for? And what are the prices for those? I'm not looking for luxury, but basic, ok and clean. Are they like. Everywhere in town? Well, I guess my one night stand would know it anyway. BTW, I have searched a bit too, but haven't found any good answers.

Thanks in advance.

[Joe47]

I will be next week in Sp and i would like to know if the new cafe Photo is open because during my last visit in March it was closed.

[Sui Generis]

I will be next week in Sp and i would like to know if the new cafe Photo is open because during my last visit in March it was closed.

Joe47,

Cafe Photo is still open and it works as usual.
The only difference now is that instead of an entrance fee of 190R$ (including 4 drinks) it's now 150R$ (including nothing).

[Albert Punter]

Good option is Lido (http://www.hotellidoplaza.com.br/inicio.html).
It is known by all working girl and is very central and close to a subway station.


Interesting to see the discussion about girlfriendly hotels in SP, as I was wondering about it. My plan A is to session with non-pros, like from Love Story or other places (like everywhere), but also hit a stripclub or two. And if the non-pro plan fails (which I doubt), I will consider brothels too.

I was thinking about hotels Plaza or Joamar in Centro, but maybe the location is a little bad. Well, a little bad location probably make them very girlfriendly, or not? I am also considering apt, but then it's better to stay more people. I am also thinking about hostels, as they are generally more social, give very good tourist advices, and are cheaper (I'm early 30s BTW). But then I will definately have to bring any girl to (love) motels.

So then. How long are they usually rented for? And what are the prices for those? I'm not looking for luxury, but basic, ok and clean. Are they like. Everywhere in town? Well, I guess my one night stand would know it anyway. BTW, I have searched a bit too, but haven't found any good answers.

Thanks in advance.

[Gtrock123]

So first visit to Sao Paulo and I'm stuck out in the middle of nowhere. Any recommendations for anything close by (walking distance would be nice. But I know I'm dreaming. Also, anyone ever stayed at this hotel?

Thanks

[Sui Generis]

So first visit to Sao Paulo and I'm stuck out in the middle of nowhere. Any recommendations for anything close by (walking distance would be nice. But I know I'm dreaming. Also, anyone ever stayed at this hotel?

Thanks

You're located in the Vila Olimpia district. A very good spot for restaurants and night life (non pros).

You're not far from Cafe Photo. You can walk the distance.

http://www.cafephoto.com.br/
(Expect to pay around 1,000.00R$ for your night)

There are several massage parlors in that area.

The best choice would be: Clinica the Palms

146 Rua Gomes de Carvalho - Vila Olimpia

Phone: (11) 3044-0366 / 3849-5119

Site: http://www.thepalms.com.br

Schedule
From Monday to Friday :11:00h to 23:00h
Saturday: 11:00h to 21:30h

Prices
R$ 190,00 for the house
R$ 200 to 250,00 to deal with the garota



There's also a privé in Moema that is quite close. The prive is located on rua Eucaliptos. It's open all night long (till six am, if I'm not mistaken). If you're lucky you can find gems there.

657 Avenida dos Eucaliptos (between Santo Amaro and Ibirapuera). Coming from Itaim Bibi or Vila Olimpia you cannot miss it, there's a big bus stop (parada) on the corner of Santo Amaro and Eucaliptos

Phone: (11) 5041-4658

No Website

Open daily from 13:00h to 06:00h

Prices:
R$ 60,00 for 30 min
R$ 120,00 for 1 hour

[Gtrock123]

You're located in the Vila Olimpia district. A very good spot for restaurants and night life (non pros).

You're not far from Cafe Photo. You can walk the distance.

http://www.cafephoto.com.br/

(Expect to pay around 1,000.00R$ for your night)

There are several massage parlors in that area.

The best choice would be: Clinica the Palms

146 Rua Gomes de Carvalho - Vila Olimpia

Phone: (11) 3044-0366 / 3849-5119

Site: http://www.thepalms.com.br

Schedule
From Monday to Friday :11:00h to 23:00h
Saturday: 11:00h to 21:30h

Prices
R$ 190,00 for the house
R$ 200 to 250,00 to deal with the garota

There's also a privé in Moema that is quite close. The prive is located on rua Eucaliptos. It's open all night long (till six am, if I'm not mistaken). If you're lucky you can find gems there.

657 Avenida dos Eucaliptos (between Santo Amaro and Ibirapuera). Coming from Itaim Bibi or Vila Olimpia you cannot miss it, there's a big bus stop (parada) on the corner of Santo Amaro and Eucaliptos

Phone: (11) 5041-4658

No Website

Open daily from 13:00h to 06:00h

Prices:
R$ 60,00 for 30 min
R$ 120,00 for 1 hourSounds like there are some great options....and I'll post about my experiences.

Cheers

[Auriflama]

Can someone recomend a flat or hotel that is not dirty and not roach infested in the bela vista, liberdade, consolacao area. I had my focus on a flat on the santo amaro area but I found out from someone currently staying there that it is dirty and roach infested.

[Devilspinkick]

I decided to stop off in Sao Paulo for a couple of days before heading on to Rio. I don´t visit this city that often, but when I do I usually spend at least one night at Eu e Elas .... a nice little casa not too far from the downtown. I arrived there around 5PM and noticed that the place had been remodeled a bit. A lot of the erotic painting had been taken down and the "sala aberta" was closed up. I didn´t enquire as to why this might be simply because I didn´t really care all that much. I must admit that I was disappointed to find that they had converted the former adult cinema into another locker area (bummer). I guess life goes on ....

Since most guys were just getting off of work, I had the casa practically to myself since the few other guys there had already retired to a room with a companion. After showering and entering the main boate it was basically me and about 15 ladies staring my way. The majority were Paulistas, but I talked to a couple of gals who were from the north (Belem, Salvador, etc.). All colors and body types but thankfully they were generally on the lean side, which I greatly prefer). A rather tall and pretty blonde lady was flirting a lot and trying to get me to sit down and chat with her but I was still soaking in the scene and anticipating what talent might show up. Glad that I did because another lady, a morena, showed up and immediately caught my eyes. She had a sexy face plus a hot little body. I couldn´t stop looking at her so I went up to her and we got to know each other. She used some jacked up named like Nunchilla or some none-sense like that, so what? She could be called "ass wipe" for all I care. We chatted and vibed well. She asked me if I planned to take her upstairs and I was like, "Oh yeah!". She quoted me R$150 and off we went. She turned out to be very passionate and we had a good workout in the sack. Afterwards, we went to my locker and I paid the piper .... also gave her a gold pendant that I purchased in Colombia a couple of year ago. Would I repeat? Yes.

I showered, used the sauna until I could no longer stand the heat, and then showered again. I felt I was good for one more round so after resting in the lounge for a bit I made my way back to the boate. Nunchilla(sp?) was there and we chatted a bit more. It was around 8PM by this time and much more crowded with business men types. Looked around for a few minutes and then wandered back to the lounge area. Was watching some futbol when a nice looking and small morena approached me and offered some legumes. She had a very pretty face but oddly her body was covered in a big overcoat. My initial thought was to send her packing. Surprisingly I continued talking with her for a while and at least she did open up her coat a few times so I could check out the goods. No huge gut, no hideous stretch marks, no gun shot wounds .... OK I think I could work with this. I asked her how much she wanted to go upstairs and she quoted R$200 , apparently because in her opinion most guys that visit Eu e Elas are rich. I probably could have talked her down, but I figure that R$50 is chump change. Off we went. BTW - I think she called herself Julie. She was more business-like and not quite as passionate as "Nun-Chi" but the sex was far from bad. Quite good actually and we both got a good sweat going. After the deed I paid my dues and she gave me her phone number for a possible meeting outside. She has a lady friend that she lives with - wonder what she looks like.

On exiting I apparently owed the house R$275 for use of the rooms and drinks I purchased for myself and the ladies. Add to that the cost for my companions and the total for the night equaled R$625. Not so bad actually. I love Paulistas and the women especially. Too bad the city is crap IMO. Have made my way to Rio where the weather is nicer and definitely better views; but I look forward to visiting Sampa again.

- DSK

[Gtrock123]

Having a heck of a time finding an English speaking escort.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

[Auriflama]

Having a heck of a time finding an English speaking escort.

Any suggestions?

Thankshttp://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/loiras/moniquesmith.htm

11 6364-9295

patricia kimberly
11-7384 0398

bella 11 9610 7511

[Auriflama]

Other englsih speaking escorts

Alice sanchez 11 6483 6494 from the malicia.com. Br site

Clara buttiere 11 7106 0322

[I Miss Millenium]

I'm a long time reader, just starting to give some back. I traveled to Sao Paulo a lot in the past with many great experiences. Hopefully this can help some fellow mongerers out. Millennium Club was always my favorite (so many girls, such high quality, awesome party scene), but alas, it was closed down by d-bag mayor. Same owner also has a club called Liberal out in Sao Bernardo. A bit rougher neighborhood, quality not quite as high, but awesome scene (US strip club style with many, many gorgeous and passionate girls). I have also tried Connections and Bomboa. Connections is similar in style to Millennium / Liberal, but quality is mediocre (by Brazil standards) and area seems hella unsafe (when I went the spot was full of 'hoods and I was afraid to flash any kind of real cash). Bomboa has top-notch quality, but scene is more laid back, bar /restaurant with more fully clothed girls; good, but not my preferred scene. Also have been to Fazendinha's (spelling?) way out in Campinas. Seemed like a good spot, but I went on Sat night and it was lame (only a few girls, being hoarded by a few japanese. I guess the gals didn't realize that us US boys are the real ballers). Anyways, one other word of advice, if you are a foreigner and not fluent in Portuguese, make sure you have a local buddy if you travel to the rougher neighborhoods. I had a very nasty run-in with the police that could have probably been averted if I had a portuguese-speaking buddy with me (don't have time to spill all the details, but if it had happened in US, I would have a multi-million dollar lawsuit, instead I just got some bruises and a cracked rib)

[Auriflama]

I'm a long time reader, just starting to give some back. I traveled to Sao Paulo a lot in the past with many great experiences. Hopefully this can help some fellow mongerers out. Millennium Club was always my favorite (so many girls, such high quality, awesome party scene), but alas, it was closed down by d-bag mayor. Same owner also has a club called Liberal out in Sao Bernardo. A bit rougher neighborhood, quality not quite as high, but awesome scene (US strip club style with many, many gorgeous and passionate girls). I have also tried Connections and Bomboa. Connections is similar in style to Millennium / Liberal, but quality is mediocre (by Brazil standards) and area seems hella unsafe (when I went the spot was full of 'hoods and I was afraid to flash any kind of real cash). Bomboa has top-notch quality, but scene is more laid back, bar /restaurant with more fully clothed girls; good, but not my preferred scene. Also have been to Fazendinha's (spelling?) way out in Campinas. Seemed like a good spot, but I went on Sat night and it was lame (only a few girls, being hoarded by a few japanese. I guess the gals didn't realize that us US boys are the real ballers). Anyways, one other word of advice, if you are a foreigner and not fluent in Portuguese, make sure you have a local buddy if you travel to the rougher neighborhoods. I had a very nasty run-in with the police that could have probably been averted if I had a portuguese-speaking buddy with me (don't have time to spill all the details, but if it had happened in US, I would have a multi-million dollar lawsuit, instead I just got some bruises and a cracked rib)What part of SP did you have a problem with policia, and why?

Thanks

[Ecoquest]

Hello,

I have been reading this guide for quit some time but mainly used it for others countries.

So it is my first trip to Sao Paulo. I am arriving on the 31st of May and staying on business for 10 days.

Since I am having a hard time getting orientation I was wondering if near the Hotel I am staying I could find a nice place to relax after work.

I will be in Campo Belo in a Hotel near the Congonhas Airport. I really would appreciate any tips for finding something near by.

Chears

PS I also will be in Rio for 1 or 2 days but not sure where our agent is booking the hotel for me.

[Papertraveler4]

I will be in Sao Paulo the middle of next week, I am traveling for business so I have no control where I stay and not a great deal of money. I only speak English and this is my first trip to Brazil. I have traveled to a lot of different countries and am not new to the hobby but I have some concerns about the language problem and not knowing my way around especially after reading I Miss Millenium's report. I don't think I will have a guide while I am there.

So here are my questions, I am staying at the Tryp Tatuape Rua Serra de Juréa, 351.

I am looking for 2 things a strip club and a massage parlor (HJ maybe a CBJ) by an attractive naked woman that I can easily and safely get to. And how hard will it be to convey what I want?

Thanks

[Sui Generis]

Since I am having a hard time getting orientation I was wondering if near the Hotel I am staying I could find a nice place to relax after work.

I will be in Campo Belo in a Hotel near the Congonhas Airport. I really would appreciate any tips for finding something near by.

.

I would recommend Clinica. I can vouch for that clinica. I've been there several times.

Clínica Cherry - 2, 019 Rua Pascal - Campo Belo - 5041-2119 / 5044-5696 / R$ 170 .

There's another one in Campo Belo:
http://www.spafuttom.com.br/

I've never been there.

You can also check this one:

http://www.chingling.com.br/

Close by there is also clinica Abbobora in Moema (Avenida Miruna)

http://www.abbobora.com.br/localiza.html

Finally there are the clinics and the privês near the Morumbi shopping (not too far in taxi)

[BionicMan]

Another nearby clinica is FranceBel rua pascal 1634 in campo belo
much recommended
enjoy and report back




I would recommend Clinica. I can vouch for that clinica. I've been there several times.

Clínica Cherry - 2, 019 Rua Pascal - Campo Belo - 5041-2119 / 5044-5696 / R$ 170 .

There's another one in Campo Belo:
http://www.spafuttom.com.br/

I've never been there.
Anot
You can also check this one:

http://www.chingling.com.br/

Close by there is also clinica Abbobora in Moema (Avenida Miruna)

http://www.abbobora.com.br/localiza.html

Finally there are the clinics and the privês near the Morumbi shopping (not too far in taxi)

[Sui Generis]

Another nearby clinica is FranceBel rua pascal 1634 in campo belo
much recommended
enjoy and report back

Right!
How could I forgot that one! I have so many memories in that district. It was always a pleasure to go to the former Privê do Hector (on Sapoti Street) while I was near Congonhas Airport.

[OzzieSuds]

I have been in Brazil for a few days in Sao Paulo and then to nearby Guaruja. Guaruja was a week long conference at a 5* resort that was expensive and had nothing much on offer.

When first in Sao Paulo I stayed near Centro at Novotel Jaragua Hotel and the first night I went to Kilt and My Love and the other bars nearby. Went too early at 9 pm and sat drinking waiting for some action and ended up with a bellyful of booze and not much else. At Kilt there were a lot of large ladies and not much English spoken. They seemed to expect you to sit at the bar or a table and not move around which did not help. Went from there to My Love which was less crowded and a large Italian gal who spoke fair English took possession of me. I eventually saw a smaller but still shapely gal sitting alone and managed to wave her over. Then had trouble getting rid of the Italian but eventually took my find Jane to the cabine at the back for R200 for 45 mins. She got it all off and gave me CBJ etc – She tried for covered doggie but johnny was not working well under that sea of scotch. But I remembered her as a cutie.

I then got out of Guaruja early and went to same hotel for one night. Went to My Love about 10 pm and there was not much on offer without silicon enhancements which I avoid. Bought a few drinks and was about to take one reasonable one to the back when Jane walked in wearing her all black street clothes. Waved her over and got her a drink and discovered that all night at hotel was going for R300. Settled on that and she asked for a couple of Tequilas to settle her nerves – fine. Ended up R150 for drinks for gals and me. Taxi to hotel door and no problems there - we finished my duty free scotch and got into it for 3 sessions before she left at 7 am. Everything was there except for rear entry and FS sans condom. Lovely gal – I should have taken her to Guaruja.

I do think that the Centro area of Sao Paulo is dirty and rough with lots of beggars etc to interfere with your conscience. My view also is that Brazilian (at least in the areas I went to) women are a little overrated and whilst there are some beauties I do not think that their occurrence is higher than elsewhere.

[Borregos77]

Unfortunately my hotel is a bit far out. I planned on hooking up with an escort, but time unfortunately denied me that pleasure as I only had a couple of hours during the morning.

I stayed at the Comfort Inn Suites, Alphaville, which is located right across from a shopping mall, which is actuallly open air with small, cozy streets and a ton of restaurants. And 2 massaeuse places which I found on GPGuia.

Both are actually inside the myriad of small streets in the shopping mall, but there are maps everywhere as well as streets and houses are well identified so it is easy to find as you walk around.

There is one on calçada dos girassois no 24, price is 250R for full service and then there is another one on calçada flor de Lis no 84, price is 200R for full service.

I find that a bit steep, but went for the Flor de Lis 84.

Very discrete place, with 2 working girls around 11. 30 AM in the morning. I picked Rafaelle, a 25 year old slim Brazilian girl, nice face, flat breast and not a lot of curves as other Garotas.

Installations are modest but clean. I did find it worrying that there was no gate nor a big bouncer type there, you can basically walk right in.

Service was CBJ, and then FS covered as well. Very mechanical, but she did have a tight pussy and knew how to move it so I came fast.

Wouldn't go back nor recommend it, but have seen positive reviews on GPGuia about the place, I guess it all depends on the girl you hook up with.

[Ecoquest]

I would recommend Clinica. I can vouch for that clinica. I've been there several times.

Clínica Cherry - 2, 019 Rua Pascal - Campo Belo - 5041-2119 / 5044-5696 / R$ 170 .

There's another one in Campo Belo:
http://www.spafuttom.com.br/

I've never been there.

You can also check this one:

http://www.chingling.com.br/

Close by there is also clinica Abbobora in Moema (Avenida Miruna)

http://www.abbobora.com.br/localiza.html

Finally there are the clinics and the privês near the Morumbi shopping (not too far in taxi)Thanks a lot for all the feedback. I arrived this morning 5am and just got back to my Hotel hooking my laptop to the internet reading all the replies. Really jetlacked today so I will start tommorow evening checking on or the other out. I will report back.

chears
ecoquest

[Davis150]

Ok, thanks to everyone for Hotel help. I think I've settled on the Travel Inn Park Ave, though it seems a bit cheesy. If anyone's stayed in a high quality hotel in Jardims that's girl-friendly (no guest charges or dirty looks), please feel free to shout out the rec. Thanks.

[Royalflush]

The Rennaisance Hotel is in Jardims. Had no extra charges or issues with bringing someone in, and the location is very convenient.

[BionicMan]

Thanks a lot for all the feedback. I arrived this morning 5am and just got back to my Hotel hooking my laptop to the internet reading all the replies. Really jetlacked today so I will start tommorow evening checking on or the other out. I will report back.

chears
ecoquesttake into account that clinicas do close a bit earleir on saturdays (7pm) and are not opened on sundays.,

[Graham111]

Could not find her last time I was in SP but going in 2 weeks -available by another name?

[Pacific1]

Privates:

In my opinion they are the best way to get laid for little money and then pick up the good girls' phonenumbers. The following addresses are already some months old, so not 100% sure if they are all still valid. But I would especially recommend the area around Rua Loefgreen / Metro Santa Cruz. There are at least 6 privates in <5 minutes walking distance that all cost between R$50 and R$70 per hour and many have pretty girls (levels 3. 8, most only have 4 women, so sometimes you just need to go from one place to the next one).

Privê da R. Pereira Estéfano, 218

- Metro: Saúde [R$60]

R. Pitangueiras 125

- Metro: Pç da Árvore. Price 30R ½ hr, 50R FS 1 hr

Privê da Rua Ouvidor Peleja, 142

- Metro: Saúde. [R$50]

Privê Abbacate. Rua Luiz Góis, 810

- Metro: Santa Cruz. [R$70]

- Rua loefgreen, 977 (+ plenty of other brothels in the direct neighbourhood).

Metro: Santa Cruz. 5539-3843/5081-3149 [R$50]Awesome report. I'll be in SP next week and will try out a few of your suggestions. I don't speak the language, but I imagine showing an address to a taxi driver will be sufficient.

[Papertraveler4]

I'm sorry if I said something wrong in my first post, or maybe it hasn't been long enough to get a response but I did find my hotel on the IsawMap and it looks like Lunas Clínica on Rua Francisco Zicardi 387 is close to my hotel. Is this a safe place? I haven't seen any reports on it, has anyone been there?

Thanks

[Graham111]

Thanks Borregos77 for the tips in Alphaville. Anyone recommend another option reasonably close as I will be staying there a few days for work as well.

[Ecoquest]

Hi,

Just got back from Rio. The Clinica Cherry seams close by. Checked their website. Is the price for completo 170 or do you have to pay for fucking extra to the girl?

Chears


I would recommend Clinica. I can vouch for that clinica. I've been there several times.

Clínica Cherry - 2, 019 Rua Pascal - Campo Belo - 5041-2119 / 5044-5696 / R$ 170 .

There's another one in Campo Belo:
http://www.spafuttom.com.br/

I've never been there.

You can also check this one:

http://www.chingling.com.br/

Close by there is also clinica Abbobora in Moema (Avenida Miruna)

http://www.abbobora.com.br/localiza.html

Finally there are the clinics and the privês near the Morumbi shopping (not too far in taxi)

[Voyajer1]

The prices you see quoted on the internet include the dirty deed. Check out the local board and verify just in case.

Hi,

Just got back from Rio. The Clinica Cherry seams close by. Checked their website. Is the price for completo 170 or do you have to pay for fucking extra to the girl?

Chears

[Graham111]

Will anal be possible here or not normal in a Clinica. Looks like a great option from the airport.

[Albert Punter]

Could not find her last time I was in SP but going in 2 weeks -available by another name?
I have heard she got married.

[Voyajer1]

Here is an interesting report on corruption and prostitution in Sao Paolo. I found it in one of the local boards. What I find interesting is the display of one of the cheapo houses (Rua dos Andradas, 69), a BR20 for sex spot that is right infront of a police station. I had no idea...
http://noticias.r7.com/sao-paulo/noticias/-predio-do-sexo-divide-espaco-com-a-policia-no-centro-de-sao-paulo-20100402.html

[Steve Naive]

Clinica Kin (http://www.clinicakin.com.br/clinica.htm), 235 Rua Prof Dr. José Marques da Cruz (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=235+Rua+Prof+Dr.+Jos%C3%A9+Marques+da+Cruz,+sao+paulo,+br&sll=42.421131,-71.140654&sspn=0.011484,0.020599&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=R.+Prof.+Jos%C3%A9+Marques+da+Cruz,+235+-+Santo+Amaro,+S%C3%A3o+Paulo,+04707-020,+Brazil&ll=-23.626262,-46.688923&spn=0.007126,0.0103&z=17)

Easy to find only if you study google maps and bring a printed map and/or directions, because it is a very small street off of a large one, and drivers may not know it. The driver was looking it up in his book, but used my google map when I showed it to him. He commented a couple times on what a small street it was. The google map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=235+Rua+Prof+Dr.+Jos%C3%A9+Marques+da+Cruz,+sao+paulo,+br&sll=42.421131,-71.140654&sspn=0.011484,0.020599&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=R.+Prof.+Jos%C3%A9+Marques+da+Cruz,+235+-+Santo+Amaro,+S%C3%A3o+Paulo,+04707-020,+Brazil&ll=-23.626262,-46.688923&spn=0.007126,0.0103&z=17) actually marks the location as a clinica!

Look for the 235 sign, probably with a man and a chair, no other sign. Inside there's a nice lobby with some couches, friendly mamas to greet you. Not real private, as there were two other guys (5:30pm Thursday). They called the girls, who came out one at a time to greet me, pecked my cheek, said their name, left. If you're looking for particular services, there isn't much time to ask in this routine, but you could ask the mamas about specific girls and services when the parade is finished.

A nice variety of good-looking girls. One who was not on parade had enormous boobs and hips, without being especially fat. Another guy saw here and took her. I don't think most of the girls were wearing makeup, or at least not enough to notice. I could have been happy with most of them, but two stood out, and I chose a pretty bleached-blonde, Caca (I'm sure she doesn't know what her name means to some of us). Oddly, I had to wait 20+ minutes after paying (R$140 hour, R$100 half hour) before she returned to take me to a room.

She gave me a towel and soap for a solo shower. As I was toweling off she was in doggie position, wagging her tail at me with an inviting grin. Nice! I have had only Asian girls for the past 6+ years, tend to like them petite, and Caca was a full-size Western girl, almost my height. Her larger size was an interesting experience after being used to small Asians.

Very nice natural boobs, fine figure, neither fat nor thin, 26. Sunny, friendly manner; chatty after the action was done, not much English, but understood my Portuñol well enough. No rush. She wanted me on my back, and did a common routine: CBJ (allowing a bit of 69), then cowgirl, reverse CG, doggie, mish. I expect I could have directed the action any way I wanted, and that other things were on the menu, but sometimes it's nice to see what the girl will do on her own. She was not into kissing, about the only minus of the session. Partly because of this, I didn't finish with the usual, but she was also good with her hands. I took an hour, so with the remaining time she rubbed my back with lotion (nice, but not a therepeutic massage) and settled into trying to talk with me. I don't understand Portugese well, and her English is minimal, but she patiently tried various ways to make conversation, and was friendly and relaxed during it. My Spanish is good enough for small talk, and she like most Brazileros understand it if you don't speak fast, and I used what Portugese I know.

She was very personable. The service was slightly mechanical in the set routine. She was not there to get her own needs met, but seemed to enjoy her work. Can't call it GFE, because I have never had a girlfriend who was focused only on my needs and knew all the moves, and there was no kissing (important to me); still, she was friendly and easy to be with. She gave me the full hour (until the phone rang) and did not ask for a tip.

Face: 9. Body: 9. Attitude: 9. Service: 7. Would I repeat? No, because there are SO many nice women to choose from, and I missed the kissing.

[Ricker]

The other evening, it was Saturday night, I wanted to check out my favorite Boate in the Augusta area, Casarao.

I love this place on Thursday thru Saturday nights because they open the back bar, doubling the size of the place and there are usually some pretty nice garotas about on these nights.

Well, this night was no exception.
I like to get there at about 11 pm or so. I sit at the front bar and watch as the garotas enter the boate and then proceed upstairs to prepare themselves.
Between midnite and about 130 am is the best for me.
Most of the garotas are now milling about in the boate, and it's still pretty tranquilo 'cause all the young Brasileiros haven't quite arrived yet making the place too crowded, at least for me.

I spotted this beautiful garota, and I do mean beautiful, however, she had kind of a scowl on her face.
I decided to keep an eye on her to find the right time to approach her and try to schmooze her a bit.

When she sat back alone in the back bar I approached her simply by offering her a stick of gum, and we started talking.

... report to be continued shortly ...

... An amiga just arrived, and I don't want to be rude writing ISG reports while she's here ... :)

[Nicebutthole]

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[Cartero]

I have been going through all the reports about Sao Paulo and I am ready to go for myself. I was planning to stay somewhere near Hotel Lido or Hotel Savoy depending on which are is safer since I am just going to walk to and from the hotel to the motel. Anyone have any advice which area is better and which hotels you recommend to stay in?

[Auriflama]

I have been going through all the reports about Sao Paulo and I am ready to go for myself. I was planning to stay somewhere near Hotel Lido or Hotel Savoy depending on which are is safer since I am just going to walk to and from the hotel to the motel. Anyone have any advice which area is better and which hotels you recommend to stay in?I would say go to googlemaps and type in hotels liberdade sao paulo since thats near hotel lido also type hotels rua frei caneca sao paulo is also a nice area. that will bring up a lot of results plkus you can where you are staying easily.

[Prosal]

thats near hotel lido also type hotels rua frei caneca sao paulo is also a nice area.Hey Manute Bol, for someone who has NEVER been to SP, you seems to have quickly becomed a "specialist".

ROFLMAO

[Auriflama]

Hey Manute Bol, for someone who has NEVER been to SP, you seems to have quickly becomed a "specialist".

ROFLMAOHey prosal thats another dollar you owe for negative toxic post. you owe 1 grand now so pay up.

I though I would give some help to this knowing you would not like it and knowing you would try and jump down someones throat for asking a question, I mean because you own this board so your allowed to do that right? or you think you own it or you think wearing a suit makes you the man but isnt the man that makes the suit.

[Golfinho]

Hey prosal thats another dollar you owe for negative toxic post. you owe 1 grand now so pay up.

I though I would give some help to this knowing you would not like it and knowing you would try and jump down someones throat for asking a question, I mean because you own this board so your allowed to do that right? or you think you own it or you think wearing a suit makes you the man but isnt the man that makes the suit.No matter where is located the lilypad on which the frog is perched, it is still a frog. splob'vious, isn't it?