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The Rio Centro scene is indeed more concentrated than Sao Paulo. But I think your last line "Rio has way more working girls than Sao Paulo" is completely wrong. Its the other way around. There are probably more girls working in SP Zona Sul, alone, l than all the clinicas in Rio centro and sul. And the boates are not even close, the SP numbers blow Rio away. You can make a case for Rio but don't base it on numbers.I've been to Sao Paulo. I did not feel that way to me. Unless all of the girls a freelancers. I think Rio has more boates / clinics etc than Sao Paulo.
For the rest of you who are here: Sunday you have two choices: Tangara and Miruna. Sunday is freelancer day at Miruna.Brooklin is also open on sundays with mix of the girls who work during the week and freelancers.
AltoBomGosto
12-05-16, 09:53
Fine, but when it comes to factual criteria like numbers and locations, the forum should be accurate. I was only correcting what I think is a factual error by Rhasta.This discussion is becaming a non sense, each one has its own opiniom, more udefull is to concentrate our discussion on TDs with real performaces!
I'm out of this nonsense! Facts are facts!
ABG.
This discussion is becaming a non sense, each one has its own opiniom, more udefull is to concentrate our discussion on TDs with real performaces!
I'm out of this nonsense! Facts are facts!
ABG.Actually, its not about facts but about opinions and the opinion of most people who have been to both cities is that Rio is better. However, if you want facts then all you need to do is look at the number of reports by mongers in the Rio threads compared to that of the SP threads. Also compare their experiences.
FunTimeSsp
12-05-16, 18:27
Hi guys,
New user and 1st post on this forum:-O.
I am in SP for a couple days and am looking for some relaxation after a long flight.
I am near hotels Hilton / Sheraton and looking for a nearby clinic I saw Onno spa, Oro spa and Brooklin massage.
From your experience which one would you recommend?
Thanks!
These photos were not taken by me but are an accurate representation. IMO world class talent and performance matched looks.
Larry David
12-05-16, 19:10
Brooklin is also open on sundays with mix of the girls who work during the week and freelancers.I went once during the week and it was all egua. I'm just not into horse ass. Is it better on Sunday?
On the subject of horse ass. I'm waiting for some horse ass porn, where the girl has body paint to look like a horse and is wearing a pony tail butt plug. The guy should be wearing a horse mask like Bojack Horseman.
AltoBomGosto
12-06-16, 22:18
Hi guys,
New user and 1st post on this forum:-O.
I am in SP for a couple days and am looking for some relaxation after a long flight.
I am near hotels Hilton / Sheraton and looking for a nearby clinic I saw Onno spa, Oro spa and Brooklin massage.
From your experience which one would you recommend?
Thanks!My choice would be Brooklyn. Please buy a membership so I can PM to you for details.
ABG.
My choice would be Brooklyn. Please buy a membership so I can PM to you for details.
ABG.Yes, and then attempt to charge him money to take him on a "tour", just like you've done with me and others. Nobody needs to be paying you anything to take them around Sao Paulo, and especially not somebody who is a seasoned traveler, let alone a seasoned monger.
AltoBomGosto
12-07-16, 09:52
Yesterday I went to my favorite place and did a fantastic TD, with the afro brazilian mulata Valeska.
LFK, BBBJ, CWG, more BBBJ till CIM! Swallowed all my cum!
ABG.
These photos were not taken by me but are an accurate representation. IMO world class talent and performance matched looks.Face is far from city class. Nice body if you like implants. Which I do to see but not a fan of the feel.
So a friend is visiting from the States, and I thought he should see Scandallo. So far, we have been visiting the clinicas and Casarao. At Casarao we gathered phone numbers. His first day here he fell in love with Kauane at Tangara. He has proceeded to have tln with three girls from Casarao. Each girl he proclaims is better than the last. Every day he is smitten with a new girl. So last night he wasn't too thrilled about going to Scandallo. He wanted a repeat with a Casarao girl from the night before. He doesn't think it can get any better.
Sure enough, after dinner he meets another GDP and after an hour he tells me he has agreed to pay her $R1000 for tln at his hotel, plus the $R250 take out fee. And this morning he is in love all over again! Haha. He has a new favorite. Now he is negotiating a weekly rate.
At the club I came across a girl (21 yo, white brunette, 5'6, 120, submissive. And she loved the Nymph) that I met last time. Previously, we had started negotiations for her to come over, but she wanted $R800 for three hours in the afternoon. Last night she accepted $R600 to tln. This morning she agreed to $R2500 for one week. The deal is we meet each day at 5 p and she leaves in the morning so I can do my thing during the day.
At this point I don't see how I can leave the land of tight young pussy. The girls are fun and the food scene here is outstanding. And the girls come from all over Brazil. Bahia, Rio, Goiania, Santa Catarina, Fortaleza.
Never going home.Do you pay all in advance? Or you pay after or partially? If you pay in advance you can not know if she comes back. The deal is good compared to other countries, I can not stay with the same GP more than one day.
Do you pay all in advance? Or you pay after or partially? If you pay in advance you can not know if she comes back. The deal is good compared to other countries, I can not stay with the same GP more than one day.Been a bit but I believe it is as follows: Entry fee on arrival, room fee on the way to the room, fee for friend when you come down from the room.
Larry David
12-10-16, 12:22
Do you pay all in advance? Or you pay after or partially? If you pay in advance you can not know if she comes back. The deal is good compared to other countries, I can not stay with the same GP more than one day.I negotiated on a weekly rate, let her know it doesn't need to be seven consecutive days so she can still work Scandallo on the busy nights, and then I pay pro-rated each morning when she leaves. After a couple of nights she decided that she wants more for a nightly rate. But I have two others in my stable who I pay 300 R and 500 R per night and I really like them.
Plus there are so many girls passing through Tangara that I want, and I don't have the time to fuck them all. Every day they have at least 20 girls in a rotating cast. Every day they have new girls. 100 R 1/2 HR. Every 6th session 50% off. The biggest problem with São Paulo is there are too many girls and I can't fuck a all of them.
There's some clinicas in them there "hills": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3pBJTTjwCM. Can you find them? Here you go (courtesy Nordico): https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1JXNkvkP94RHlGyX9nX6w0gQfwdg.
Larry David
12-10-16, 21:10
Normally only works three days during the week. Today, 30+ girls. Monger convention this evening. Estimated 50 mongers. Anyway, Mayara:
Young, petite spinner. This girl can suck a golf ball through a garden hose and swallow the hose. Best BJ I've encountered so far in Brazil. BBBJ, CIM. She wasn't expecting an extra 50 R for her special service. Highly recommended.
AltoBomGosto
12-11-16, 10:05
Very good looking oriental mestiza, GFE, RCG, LFK, BBBJ and CIM. More than 30 girlas avaliable in thr house.
ABG.
Visited Tangara Sunday on my next to last weekend in SP, this year. Lots of girls, most I had not met before. Many customers, Churrascaria party downstairs. Picked Tati, very good performer I have been with before. LFK, excellent classic BBBJ, her on her knees, me standing, in front of mirror- CIM but no swallow. Lots more LFK, DATY, she enjoyed but no "O" (she was really wet already, must really like giving BBBJ). Some light anal play, she might have been OK with more but I didn't go too far. Discussed full anal next visit.
She liked to be spanked, I wasn't spanking very hard, again she might have been OK with more.
Finished up the hour with another BBBJ / CIM. First time twice in one hour in a while. Will try to visit next week.
I negotiated on a weekly rate, let her know it doesn't need to be seven consecutive days so she can still work Scandallo on the busy nights, and then I pay pro-rated each morning when she leaves. After a couple of nights she decided that she wants more for a nightly rate. But I have two others in my stable who I pay 300 R and 500 R per night and I really like them.
Plus there are so many girls passing through Tangara that I want, and I don't have the time to fuck them all. Every day they have at least 20 girls in a rotating cast. Every day they have new girls. 100 R 1/2 HR. Every 6th session 50% off. The biggest problem with So Paulo is there are too many girls and I can't fuck a all of them.Tangara is a sex club? Which city you prefer Sao paulo or Rio? I only Mongered in Rio de Janeiro I really like it because it is really easy to find girls with (quality price) Tangara (the room is included? 200 reais one hour.
Tangara is the only sex club with a low price in Sao Paulo?
I agree with you there are many girls, I've never tried Sao Paulo when I read the reports I get the feeling mongering in Sao Paulo is way more expensive than Rio de Janeiro.
Which one you prefer Tangara or Scandallo?
Larry David
12-15-16, 02:37
Tangara is a sex club? Which city you prefer Sao paulo or Rio? I only Mongered in Rio de Janeiro I really like it because it is really easy to find girls with (quality price) Tangara (the room is included? 200 reais one hour.
Tangara is the only sex club with a low price in Sao Paulo?
I agree with you there are many girls, I've never tried Sao Paulo when I read the reports I get the feeling mongering in Sao Paulo is way more expensive than Rio de Janeiro.
Which one you prefer Tangara or Scandallo?Tangara is a clinica. Basically it's a house with an outbuilding behind a wall. You can hang out in the courtyard or the living room, which is lined with sofas and chairs. No pressure to take a girl, you can sit, have a drink and watch as the girls present themselves to each new arrival. Prices are 150 R for an hour and 100 R for 1/2. The room is included and there are showers and toilets in the rooms. If I want to get out of the house and hang out, I'll go to Tangara, watch the presentations, smoke a cigar and talk with some of the girls.
Scandallo is a boate, but in addition to a couple of bars, it also has a restaurant. Here you can find a couple of hundred girls working. You can take them upstairs where you will pay for the room, plus the girl. Of course to get in you must pay a cover fee. Scandallo will set you back a minimum of 150 R. Most girls want 500 R minimum for an hour. Opening bids average 600-700 R.
As for city preference, I like São Paulo. It has better restaurants. Uber is easy. There are a ton of options when it comes to the houses. The boates are great for getting numbers and building a harem. At this point, I have no reason to leave here for Rio. The talent pool is wide and deep. Well, short and tight is more accurate. I love São Paulo.
Eric Cartman
12-16-16, 02:43
Had a quick peek in Tangara to catch up with ABG and Larry David.
Not a great line-up on a Monday. Still, got a decent BBBJ with CIM for BRL 100 (their 30 min rate). Girl had a cute face and nice tits, but a total disaster from their down -- that's why it was only a sucky-sucky and nothing more. Not that I'm complaining for BRL 100.
AltoBomGosto
12-16-16, 09:36
Had a quick peek in Tangara to catch up with ABG and Larry David.
Not a great line-up on a Monday. Still, got a decent BBBJ with CIM for BRL 100 (their 30 min rate). Girl had a cute face and nice tits, but a total disaster from their down -- that's why it was only a sucky-sucky and nothing more. Not that I'm complaining for BRL 100.Eric and Larry, it was good to see you folks again!
Monday was a under average cast bur on Tuesday I went TD with a young morena, black hair, white skin, speaks some english, very GFE, BBBJ, CWG, and CIM. Bella is her name.
150 reais = 1 h.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
12-18-16, 11:01
Yesterday went with LILI, a nice morena, completa DFK, BBBJ and CIM. 100 reais = 1/2 h.
There were more than 20 girls on the parade. One of the best casts I've seen there.
Today Tangara will be open from noon till 8 PM.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
12-20-16, 18:57
Yesterday went with LILI, a nice morena, completa DFK, BBBJ and CIM. 100 reais = 1/2 h.
There were more than 20 girls on the parade. One of the best casts I've seen there.
Today Tangara will be open from noon till 8 PM.
ABG.Tangara will be open Dez 24 from 10 am till 5 pm.
Hello,
I'm new here. I'll be in Sao Paulo on 25th and 26th and will go to Rio after that.
From the latest reports it seems like Tangara is popular right now.
Does anyone know if Tangara is open on the 25th? If not, is there any other place that is open on the 25th?
If anyone wants to meet up and go to one of these places together that would be great. PM me so we can coordinate.
Ciao.
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HungryStud101
12-23-16, 03:21
Actually, its not about facts but about opinions and the opinion of most people who have been to both cities is that Rio is better. However, if you want facts then all you need to do is look at the number of reports by mongers in the Rio threads compared to that of the SP threads. Also compare their experiences.I will add my. 02 $. I love both cities. I have hobbied in both cities. I have just scratched the surface in Sao Paulo. I love Rio and I would love to go back. I have nothing bad to say about Rio. I think I have 3 or 4 reports of distinction in Rio. Love it! No problem with Rio. However, a few friends of mine from Canada gave me a few pointers about Sao Paulo. One tip was Brooklin Massagem. I have hobbied all over the world and I have not found better place than Brooklin. Interactive 3-sums for 94 $ USD with hot woman. I have hobbied to Thailand, FKK World and several visits to Oase, Antwerp, Kiev, Montreal, Tijuana, Bejing, Hong Kong, Several States in the Union, BA Argentina (I know I am forgetting some places) and so far nothing beats Brooklin Massagem for value.
In fact it is so good that I want to try other places but I can't get out of there. I have a friend who is a Paulista and I brought him there. He had no knowledge of this place and he couldn't believe it. He was paying 2 and 3 X for equivalent talent and could not believe it. Me kept mumbling that it takes a gringo / estrangeiro.
I will go back to Rio and most of the other places listed above but thus far I have not been able to beet Brooklin. I want to return early 2017 and make a commitment to try some other places. Brooklyn is like the time I went to Strohs or Baskin Robbins ice cream and tried Blue Moon and then never moved off it. LOL. I did try Espaceo Morumbi in Sampa twice and it was OK.
I plan to hire ABG's guide service and I promise to report back.
AltoBomGosto
12-23-16, 10:00
Tangara will be open Dez 24 from 10 am till 5 pm.As far as I know nothing will be open on Dez 25th, on Dez 24 Tangara will open from noon till 4 PM.
Yesterday I went with a friend to the place, some 20 girls on the parade, went TD with Tati, a liliputian mulatinha, DFK, BBBJ, CWG, more BBBJ and CIM. No anal. Other good choice is Katia, a morena from Bahia.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
12-24-16, 09:17
As far as I know nothing will be open on Dez 25th, on Dez 24 Tangara will open from noon till 4 PM.
Yesterday I went with a friend to the place, some 20 girls on the parade, went TD with Tati, a liliputian mulatinha, DFK, BBBJ, CWG, more BBBJ and CIM. No anal. Other good choice is Katia, a morena from Bahia.
ABG.Yesterday I went there, lots of young girls, I went with Raissa, a natural blonde girl, DFK, BBBJ, DATY & CIM. She told me she will be avaliable today, after she only will be back Dez 27th.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
12-24-16, 13:30
As far as I know nothing will be open on Dez 25th, on Dez 24 Tangara will open from noon till 4 PM.
Yesterday I went with a friend to the place, some 20 girls on the parade, went TD with Tati, a liliputian mulatinha, DFK, BBBJ, CWG, more BBBJ and CIM. No anal. Other good choice is Katia, a morena from Bahia.
ABG.I'm at Tangara now, Tati mulatinha and Mayara are in house. BETTER COME IN EARLY.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
12-24-16, 13:32
I'm at Tangara now, Tati mulatinha and Mayara are in house. BETTER COME IN EARLY.
ABG.Also Priscilla, ex Nanda from EnjoySpa arrived.
ABG.
Larry David
12-24-16, 23:35
Your best bet to find pussy on Christmas is probably Rua Augusta. Try Casarao. There are a several smaller boates next door. Kilt is around the corner, but take uber to be safe. These clubs don't get going until 10 p at the earliest and don't really take off until after midnight.
Hello,
I'm new here. I'll be in Sao Paulo on 25th and 26th and will go to Rio after that.
From the latest reports it seems like Tangara is popular right now.
Does anyone know if Tangara is open on the 25th? If not, is there any other place that is open on the 25th?
If anyone wants to meet up and go to one of these places together that would be great. PM me so we can coordinate.
Ciao.
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AltoBomGosto
12-25-16, 11:17
Your best bet to find pussy on Christmas is probably Rua Augusta. Try Casarao. There are a several smaller boates next door. Kilt is around the corner, but take uber to be safe. These clubs don't get going until 10 p at the earliest and don't really take off until after midnight.Better call before, most places will be closed today.
AltoBomGosto
12-27-16, 15:29
On Dez 29 there will be a huge pussy parade, more than 40 girls are expected.
Churrasco, strip shows and lots of pussies!
Starts 3 PM, finishes 10 PM.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
12-28-16, 15:15
On Dez 29 there will be a huge pussy parade, more than 40 girls are expected. Most of them are independent.
Churrasco, strip shows and lots of pussies!
Starts 3 PM, finishes 10 PM.
ABG.There will be a tent were girls are going to perform BBBJ for 20 reais for five minutes. If you want to BBBJTC, that will be 40 reais. Ten minutes or CIM whatever comes first.
The many Sao Paulo contributors might have neglected this recent occurrence!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4062446/Customer-shoots-six-people-dead-brothel-overcome-emotion-finding-favourite-prostitute-client.html
Get your head out of the sand boys and report something useful!
The many Sao Paulo contributors might have neglected this recent occurrence!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4062446/Customer-shoots-six-people-dead-brothel-overcome-emotion-finding-favourite-prostitute-client.html
Get your head out of the sand boys and report something useful!So really, what was the point of posting this, other than it being a "human interest" story LOL? This type of thing can and does happen everywhere. It's nothing unique to mongering in Sao Paulo or Brazil itself. We're here to share information on how to be successful and enjoy mongering in Brazil. Do you have anything on that? Now that would be useful!
AltoBomGosto
12-29-16, 09:24
The many Sao Paulo contributors might have neglected this recent occurrence!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4062446/Customer-shoots-six-people-dead-brothel-overcome-emotion-finding-favourite-prostitute-client.html
Get your head out of the sand boys and report something useful!This murder was in Jaboticabal, some 200 miles far away from Sampa.
The grater Sao Paulo area must have more than 5.000 brothels and nothing bad has been reperted for a long time . If a lunatic killed people in Jaboticabal is not the rule.
Much more motoqueiros are killed in motorbike accidents per week.
Anyone knows any women who want to be slaves?
Larry David
12-30-16, 03:13
Anyone knows any women who want to be slaves?I've met a few submissive here, but I'm not inclined to share these rare truffles. You will have to find your own. I know of a Scandallo girl who is submissive and wears a dog collar, but she will cost you a small fortune. You can find her working most nights.
Sargent 50
12-30-16, 17:03
I will add my. 02 $. I love both cities. I have hobbied in both cities. I have just scratched the surface in Sao Paulo. I love Rio and I would love to go back. I have nothing bad to say about Rio. I think I have 3 or 4 reports of distinction in Rio. Love it! No problem with Rio. However, a few friends of mine from Canada gave me a few pointers about Sao Paulo. One tip was Brooklin Massagem. I have hobbied all over the world and I have not found better place than Brooklin. Interactive 3-sums for 94 $ USD with hot woman. I have hobbied to Thailand, FKK World and several visits to Oase, Antwerp, Kiev, Montreal, Tijuana, Bejing, Hong Kong, Several States in the Union, BA Argentina (I know I am forgetting some places) and so far nothing beats Brooklin Massagem for value.
In fact it is so good that I want to try other places but I can't get out of there. I have a friend who is a Paulista and I brought him there. He had no knowledge of this place and he couldn't believe it. He was paying 2 and 3 X for equivalent talent and could not believe it. Me kept mumbling that it takes a gringo / estrangeiro.
I will go back to Rio and most of the other places listed above but thus far I have not been able to beet Brooklin. I want to return early 2017 and make a commitment to try some other places. Brooklyn is like the time I went to Strohs or Baskin Robbins ice cream and tried Blue Moon and then never moved off it. LOL. I did try Espaceo Morumbi in Sampa twice and it was OK.
I plan to hire ABG's guide service and I promise to report back.Brooklyn better than quatro x quatro?
Sunset Strip
12-31-16, 15:36
I saw in a past post that people were wondering if this casa was still open. Yes!
Praca Carlos Gomes, is operational. Open Monday to Saturday from 9 am to 8 pm.
The location is right across from Liberdade Square. Great location in the Japanese District.
R40 for 30 minutes. Not sure about an hour. You can pay R30 if you just ask, I do. No garota is going to turn the money down here.
On weekends, they usually have a free BBQ.
Fairly nice lineup. Nothing spectacular but worth a visit. Relaxed atmosphere. Just sit and listen to the music. Drink a beer. Then take girl. I call it "Recession Macking. " Always good to know where to go and have a good time for a low price.
Thanks to Alto Bom Gosto and many others on the SP forum. You all have made the city more navigable for me and others. SP is way more spread out than Rio. However, I have been able to get around to spots with no problems and highly suggest gringos who only know Rio give it a try.
SS.
Brooklyn better than quatro x quatro?I saw Hungry Stud's post on Brooklin, and all I can say is that it never ceases to amaze me how people can have such different opinions about the same place. I went to Brooklin, and I did not find it to be any place particularly special. Not even close, both in terms of the facilities or the quality / performance of the girls available. Is it better than quatro por quatro? In a single word, "no"! Not even. My opinion.
Member #4732
01-02-17, 17:13
I saw Hungry Stud's post on Brooklin, and all I can say is that it never ceases to amaze me how people can have such different opinions about the same place. I went to Brooklin, and I did not find it to be any place particularly special. Not even close, both in terms of the facilities or the quality / performance of the girls available. Is it better than quatro por quatro? In a single word, "no"! Not even. My opinion.Really the question is not a valid one. 4 x 4 is a therma. Brooklin is a clinica. There is very little to compare the two.
As to your "it never ceases to amaze me" comment, people have different tastes in food, politics, women etc. If everyone had the same taste natural selection would have produced a population without much diversity. On the contrary, you should be amazed if and when all men agree on the subject.
Sunset Strip
01-03-17, 19:48
I see the address is not in my post below on this privee in Liberdade. Sorry.
103 Praca Carlos Gomes. Open Monday to Saturday from 9 am to 8 pm.
R40, 30 minutes.
I saw Hungry Stud's post on Brooklin, and all I can say is that it never ceases to amaze me how people can have such different opinions about the same place. I went to Brooklin, and I did not find it to be any place particularly special. Not even close, both in terms of the facilities or the quality / performance of the girls available. Is it better than quatro por quatro? In a single word, "no"! Not even. My opinion.Brooklin is not better than 4 x4, not even close.
I saw Hungry Stud's post on Brooklin, and all I can say is that it never ceases to amaze me how people can have such different opinions about the same place. I went to Brooklin, and I did not find it to be any place particularly special. Not even close, both in terms of the facilities or the quality / performance of the girls available. Is it better than quatro por quatro? In a single word, "no"! Not even. My opinion.I agree, Brooklin is NOT better than 4 x4, not even close.
HungryStud101
01-06-17, 02:46
Brooklyn better than quatro x quatro?I have been to 4 x4 once. Loved it. I have been to Brooklin now on four occasions. I loved my experience at 4 x4 and I would certainly go back. I love the party scene at the Terma. Brooklyn is a privy or massagem so it is a different experience. Just consider the value. I have had three 3-sums at Brooklin. The last one was up there in the top three all time 3-sums I have ever had. But here is the kicker: It cost me 94 $USD for a 3-sum. This is fucking outstanding.
Last time I was in Rio (I have been 5 times) the exchange rates were between 1. 65-1. 85 R: 1 USD. 4 X4 was more expensive and I'm sorry, I felt the girls at Brooklin were better looking for half the price.
Now, if you prefer 4 x4 I won't argue but if you did not like Brooklin maybe it was a bad day or you are the kind of people that would complain about your mother's milk when you were a baby. Either one. I have never seen better value then at Brooklin. This includes Rio, Corumba, Joinville, BA Argentina (other than when Tanjo Libre hooked me up with a 3-sum), The FKK's I have been to in Germany, Phukett Thialand, Montreal,.... Etc. I liked the other places but Brooklin hit a sweet spot for me.
I am sorry if I wasted your time. I didn't mean to lead any of you astray. More girls for me LOL!
I felt the girls at Brooklin were better looking for half the price.I would not take this seriously. I am sure there are guys who would say that they saw street walkers in Santo Domingo who were better looking than high end escorts in Sao Paulo. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.
HungryStud101
01-06-17, 13:26
I would not take this seriously. I am sure there are guys who would say that they saw street walkers in Santo Domingo who were better looking than high end escorts in Sao Paulo. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.The Paulista look is pretty hard to beat so I don't think that there are too many people that would say that but your last statement is correct. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
But I have to laugh. I have driven by a few street walkers that almost broke my neck and I have made the program with a few. I am reminded of the girl in Villa Mimosa and another Russian girl I met in Milan, Italy. They looked great until they took their clothes off.
Go ahead and pay top dollar if you want to guys.
Member #4732
01-06-17, 22:11
I would not take this seriously. I am sure there are guys who would say that they saw street walkers in Santo Domingo who were better looking than high end escorts in Sao Paulo. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion but you should expect that opinion to be challenged when it conflicts with the experience of others on this forum. Seriously, how much time have you spent in Sao Paulo? You paint yourself as an expert but you seem to disagree with those who actually live there. Its one thing to provide a trip report when you visit, its another thing to post wholesale evaluations of a location based on limited experience.
Yes, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, but I know quite a few beholders that would say the level of beauty in the higher end SP clinicas is on a par or better than what you find at 4 x 4, or choose any place in Rio. I know both places extremely well and I can unequivocally put myself in the "most demanding" category of mongers. I cannot tell you how many times, I have visited day and night venues and decided against sessioning because there was no one I found worth the price. I say this to establish that I do not give out high marks easily. The last time I went to 4 x 4 was a month ago, and I saw only 1 girl I considered worth asking for her number. There were many there I would not fuck for free. Many women hate the boate atmosphere and the hours and therefore prefer clinica hours. They don't like the schmoozing or the drinking and other night life aspects. Its for this reason, and the reliable income stream that a lot of good talent is available in the SP clinicas. Maybe in your limited time you did not see it, but that is more likely a sampling error than a statistically valid assessment.
One thing I can safely assert is that there is no comparison in the attention to customer satisfaction that the SP management has compared to your average Rio joint. In Rio, the management seldom gives a shit whether you have a good experience. In SP, the business model is very much predicated on return customers. Almost all of the better clinicas have a high degree of return customers and they actively cull their team to eliminate any bad performers. In 2 years of living in Rio, I never saw anything close to the same degree of management involvement, and it translates into much better customer experience, on average.
Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion but you should expect that opinion to be challenged when it conflicts with the experience of others on this forum. Seriously, how much time have you spent in Sao Paulo? You paint yourself as an expert but you seem to disagree with those who actually live there. Its one thing to provide a trip report when you visit, its another thing to post wholesale evaluations of a location based on limited experience.And the same back at you. Also, the fact that somebody may live in a place doesn't automatically translate over into having "taste".
AltoBomGosto
01-07-17, 10:19
Yesterday I went to my favorite clinica, 24 girls in house, some 10 occupied.
I choosed Eduarda, a young 20 yo morena, gorgeous face, slim, model type, small but hard tities ans apple but.
Very GFE, at the beggining she was a little shy but as the action warmed um she turned to be a great DFK.
She's your type of girl Rovnak. She is as slim as Pati, the mulata from Unique.
She performs a fantastic BBBJ, very good CWG, she did CIM to me but I don't know if she will perform it to others.
ABG.
Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion but you should expect that opinion to be challenged when it conflicts with the experience of others on this forum. Seriously, how much time have you spent in Sao Paulo? You paint yourself as an expert but you seem to disagree with those who actually live there. Its one thing to provide a trip report when you visit, its another thing to post wholesale evaluations of a location based on limited experience.
Yes, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, but I know quite a few beholders that would say the level of beauty in the higher end SP clinicas is on a par or better than what you find at 4 x 4, or choose any place in Rio. I know both places extremely well and I can unequivocally put myself in the "most demanding" category of mongers. I cannot tell you how many times, I have visited day and night venues and decided against sessioning because there was no one I found worth the price. I say this to establish that I do not give out high marks easily. The last time I went to 4 x 4 was a month ago, and I saw only 1 girl I considered worth asking for her number. There were many there I would not fuck for free. Many women hate the boate atmosphere and the hours and therefore prefer clinica hours. They don't like the schmoozing or the drinking and other night life aspects. Its for this reason, and the reliable income stream that a lot of good talent is available in the SP clinicas. Maybe in your limited time you did not see it, but that is more likely a sampling error than a statistically valid assessment.
One thing I can safely assert is that there is no comparison in the attention to customer satisfaction that the SP management has compared to your average Rio joint. In Rio, the management seldom gives a shit whether you have a good experience. In SP, the business model is very much predicated on return customers. Almost all of the better clinicas have a high degree of return customers and they actively cull their team to eliminate any bad performers. In 2 years of living in Rio, I never saw anything close to the same degree of management involvement, and it translates into much better customer experience, on average.Unlike yourself I am not an expert at anything. However, my advice to mongers is to not take the opinion of anyone on this board on beauty of providers and visit both cities if you can afford to, but visit Rio first and you may not wish to visit Sao Paulo at all like perhaps 99% of Americans.
Member #4732
01-07-17, 14:45
Unlike yourself I am not an expert at anything. However, my advice to mongers is to not take the opinion of anyone on this board on beauty of providers and visit both cities if you can afford to, but visit Rio first and you may not wish to visit Sao Paulo at all like perhaps 99% of Americans.What 99% of Americans do is a non sequitur, it does not prove anything one way or another vis mongering. We all agree that Rio is a far more touristic city and one that all visitors to Brazil should take the time to visit, independent of mongering objectives. I have no argument with your suggestion that a monger attempt to visit both, time permitting. If you had kept your original comments as diplomatic re HungryStud101's trip reports, we would not be disputing anything.
HungryStud101
01-07-17, 15:36
Unlike yourself I am not an expert at anything. However, my advice to mongers is to not take the opinion of anyone on this board on beauty of providers and visit both cities if you can afford to, but visit Rio first and you may not wish to visit Sao Paulo at all like perhaps 99% of Americans.As an American with a mere 8 visits to Brazil under his belt I can tell you that you are correct about another thing: Sao Paulo is big and intimidating. If it is your first visit to Brazil I would recommend Rio for a multitude of reasons. In Rio you always have your bearings and there are lots of non-hobby tourist attractions and you can spend your time at the beach checking out the gatinhas while sipping a agua de coco or caipirinhas.
However, If you find yourself going to Brazil for business or you have to be in Sao Paulo for any reason I have found that the clinica Brooklin has the best value that I have ever seen. That is, Brooklin has the best combination of good looking girls with the best prices that I have ever seen. I realize that it is all hot or miss but I think I have been to enough places to say that Brooklin is a great deal.
HarvestBoi
01-07-17, 17:25
Hot or miss. Whether intentional or not, it's funny and sums up mongering in a phrase. Well played,
As an American with a mere 8 visits to Brazil under his belt I can tell you that you are correct about another thing: Sao Paulo is big and intimidating. If it is your first visit to Brazil I would recommend Rio for a multitude of reasons. In Rio you always have your bearings and there are lots of non-hobby tourist attractions and you can spend your time at the beach checking out the gatinhas while sipping a agua de coco or caipirinhas.
However, If you find yourself going to Brazil for business or you have to be in Sao Paulo for any reason I have found that the clinica Brooklin has the best value that I have ever seen. That is, Brooklin has the best combination of good looking girls with the best prices that I have ever seen. I realize that it is all hot or miss but I think I have been to enough places to say that Brooklin is a great deal.I may be mistaken for someone who dislikes Sao Paulo. That is definitely not so. I have been there twice and have reported my pleasant encounters here. From my experience SP is better mongering than most other cities on the planet. However, I call out bs when I see it. Anyone who says that Sao Paulo is better mongering than Rio is outright disingenuous. That being said whenever I visit SP again I will make it a point to visit Brooklin. Won't drop it if its hot.
Member #4732
01-07-17, 18:27
I may be mistaken for someone who dislikes Sao Paulo. That is definitely not so. I have been there twice and have reported my pleasant encounters here. From my experience SP is better mongering than most other cities on the planet. However, I call out bs when I see it. Anyone who says that Sao Paulo is better mongering than Rio is outright disingenuous. That being said whenever I visit SP again I will make it a point to visit Brooklin. Won't drop it if its hot.You are an odd bird. You alternate be / t belligerent posts and diplomatic ones. In this case you oscillate within a single post. Your post would have been fine if you learned to self edit a bit and stop when you are doing well, after the first few sentences. You admit to having visited SP just twice, yet you insist that you have the expertise to make the definitive judgment call. Though you are admittedly, "not an expert". You say everyone is allowed to form their own opinion, yet you feel justified in calling others "disingenuous" for expressing a contrary opinion.
What reason would I, or anyone else have to be disingenuous about such a silly thing as whether SP is better than Rio when it comes to putaria? I have laid out in great detail the pros and cons of each place. For those that prefer the SP "pros" and cons over the Rio pros and cons, the answer is self evident without any disingenuousness needed.
HungryStud101
01-07-17, 20:11
I may be mistaken for someone who dislikes Sao Paulo. That is definitely not so. I have been there twice and have reported my pleasant encounters here. From my experience SP is better mongering than most other cities on the planet. However, I call out bs when I see it. Anyone who says that Sao Paulo is better mongering than Rio is outright disingenuous. That being said whenever I visit SP again I will make it a point to visit Brooklin. Won't drop it if its hot.Then you re correct you are not an expert and you do not know what you are talking about. OK, so the veil is lifted. You are nothing but another rude troll making snarky comments.
Eric Cartman
01-07-17, 21:43
As an American with a mere 8 visits to Brazil under his belt I can tell you that you are correct about another thing: Sao Paulo is big and intimidating. If it is your first visit to Brazil I would recommend Rio for a multitude of reasons. In Rio you always have your bearings and there are lots of non-hobby tourist attractions and you can spend your time at the beach checking out the gatinhas while sipping a agua de coco or caipirinhas.
However, If you find yourself going to Brazil for business or you have to be in Sao Paulo for any reason I have found that the clinica Brooklin has the best value that I have ever seen. That is, Brooklin has the best combination of good looking girls with the best prices that I have ever seen. I realize that it is all hot or miss but I think I have been to enough places to say that Brooklin is a great deal.Sao Paulo is really easy to get around now with Uber, seriously. And it's not very expensive outside of peak / surge pricing, especially with USD still above BRL 3,00 (for as long as that lasts).
Then you re correct you are not an expert and you do not know what you are talking about. OK, so the veil is lifted. You are nothing but another rude troll making snarky comments.Didn't mean to hurt you. Just making candid statement on which city is better mongering. No emotion on my part as I hobby only and do not rely on charging newbies to take them around an easily navigable city. After all there's uber.
Sargent 50
01-08-17, 01:40
I'm going to check out SP and Brooklyn is a must apparently LOL. And make a decision on which city I prefer to "monger".
I may be mistaken for someone who dislikes Sao Paulo. That is definitely not so. I have been there twice and have reported my pleasant encounters here. From my experience SP is better mongering than most other cities on the planet. However, I call out bs when I see it. Anyone who says that Sao Paulo is better mongering than Rio is outright disingenuous. That being said whenever I visit SP again I will make it a point to visit Brooklin. Won't drop it if its hot.To make this statement you should know not just Sao Paulo (that you know from two visits) but also be familiar enough with "most other cities on the plane".
You see the problem?
Sao Paulo is really easy to get around now with Uber, seriously. And it's not very expensive outside of peak / surge pricing, especially with USD still above BRL 3,00 (for as long as that lasts).Amen. I would rather navigate Sampa than Rio any day. And Uber has been awesome there. So inexpensive. Yes, São Paulo is huge, but let's be honest, on a visit you will likely only need to navigate 5% of that place. If you are smart about where you stay it is a very enjoyable city.
AltoBomGosto
01-08-17, 09:40
Yesteday I went to my favorite place, very well received by Susan, the new manager, went with Jack, a liliputian mulatinha, very GFE.
DFK, CWG, BBBJ, two pops, one CWG second CIM. Fantastic blow job, she swallowed all!.
Today Tangara will be open from noom till 8 PM.
ABG.
Member #4732
01-08-17, 11:17
Sao Paulo is really easy to get around now with Uber, seriously. And it's not very expensive outside of peak / surge pricing, especially with USD still above BRL 3,00 (for as long as that lasts).Agree, but what's the deal though with the fare estimates in Sao Paulo routinely being well below the eventual fare. I have noticed this enough to see a strong pattern which I did not see in many many Uber trips in Rio. In Rio the fare estimates were very accurate. In SP, I see a fare estimate of 13 but then a final fare of 20 for example, and this is without traffic or re-navigation, as I avoid high traffic times as a rule. I have seen this enough, basically every trip, to hypothesize that there must be some SP specific tariffs that are not factored into the estimate. Its quite aggravating. What do you think, does that correlate with your experience in both places?
OT (not directed at Cartman) - another logistic in SP's favor, is that in my experience, while SP is larger than Rio, counterintuitively its actually easier to hook up with girls after hours and off days than in Rio. This is because SP is circular, without geographic barriers, while Rio is a shaped like a big amoeba with mountains separating the arms leading to huge distances on the ground to go from point A to be, with major choke points. Most of the GPS in Rio live in the north or west, while visitors live in the south at opposite ends of the amoeba. Arranging home visits is a real pain. In SP, if you stay in any of the areas within the say Pinheiros to Moema radius, you will be within striking distance of many GPS. For guys that visit the night spots, almost all SP night spots have a "saida" option to take girl home, whereas no termas have this. And for punters that like to do call in or call out with free lancers, most of them live in Jardins or Moema.
As someone who never has enough time to spend in both Rio and SP on a trip down to Brazil, I appreciate the healthy debate as long as it doesn't get personal. I think both destinations are incredible for mongering. I'm kind of partial to Rio because I have had incredible experiences at the termas particularly 4 X4, but of course you pay a premium. I'm surprised that someone thinks clinica managements ensure better service than say a 4 x4. On the flip side, I'm partial to the escorts in SP who have more revealing photos, extensive positive reviews and very liberal offerings. Sometimes they can cost as much as a session at a Rio termas, but many are solid 8's with some knocking on the 9+ door. Clinicas are great for quantity and a threesome is a good start to get value.
Let's face it though Rio is a sultry tourist destination. One of the greatest tourist destinations in the world in fact. I have asked termas girls back to my Copacabana apartment and had an amazing time with them in bed, on the beach and at the cafes on their time off. If you can find a couple enjoyable sexual encounters and possibly relationships, the Rio experience will haunt you forever.
It's obvious AltoBomGusto is running a tour business and does a good job of promoting the SP clinica scene. No problem. As long as there have been international mongering forums, there have have been tour guides for guys who like a translator, some direction, etc.
I do wish there was more discussions about SP escorts and boates here, but I understand a lot of guys like the clinica line-ups. There is far less risk that a provider is going to totally flake on you. Escorts and boate girls outside the boate can flake. I do recall a few months back I had a hard time posting about SP escorts. The moderator kept clipping my wings for posting details that ABG and others post all the time. I personally think the Sao Paulo forum would benefit with more discussions beyond clinicas.
Member #4732
01-08-17, 21:35
I'm surprised that someone thinks clinica managements ensure better service than say a 4 x4..I did not specifically compare clinica management to 4 x 4. I said the clinical management in SP is night and day compared to putaria management in Rio. And I stand by that. The clinicas in SP are clean, well run, and they invest in infrastructure. They offer poster discounts and some offer frequent visitor cards with half price bonus after so many visits. When it comes to ensuring better service, I refer to the fact that the higher end places in SP the management actively solicit customer satisfaction feedback and pay attention to what regular customers say. In SP you find that the regular clinica visitors are treated like club members. They lounge in the reception areas which are full of couches, have drinks, chat and treat it like a clubhouse. You do not see that in the Rio scene which is more like fast food service. I am pretty confident that this attention to detail and customer focus translates into higher customer satisfaction. Poorly reviewed girls are asked to leave. In my experience in Rio, I never saw this kind of situation. I know girls that work in Rio and in SP. The stories I hear from them regarding the different management styles are very telling. I do not mean to say that SP "ensures" better service each and every time, I am talking averages.
On the subject of escorts. It seems that the number of free lancers is down from what I saw from 2008-11 in SP. Or they are no longer using the primary sites to list themselves. Maybe some of them are using tumblr, FB, twitter, or tinder. But its hard to find them aggregated. In general I trust those with amateur photos far more than the pro photos. You can find review after review of the escorts on the BR forum, but unless you have the same tastes as the writers, you may not have the same experience. IMO they are the last option after clinicas, prives and boates.
The boates are discussed here. Not much can be said about them other than their addresses, and fees. They are pretty steady. If people go they should report the number of girls working. This is more interesting and useful imo than just relating the encounter be / t yourself and 1 girl. It would be good to know how the various clubs are doing in terms of girls as a higher number usually means at least a few for each taste. I am recently back in SP so I will gradually get a feel. So far went to Bomboa between Christmas and new year and it was so dead they let us look and leave. But that week is not representative. Also went to Casarao just before Christmas and it was packed. Have not yet been back to Scandalo, Ilha the Fantasia, Connection, Photo or Liberal Club.
Interesting the debate between SP vs Rio.
I've been to both cities many times, in Rio at the moment.
It's not rocket science that Rio is much more a tourist destination than SP.
If I was recommending which city to visit for a first timer to Brazil, of course it would be Rio.
Duh, LOL. The beaches, bikinis, dance, sex, etc, etc.
Just like all guys' dreams that have never been to Brazil.
For a more experienced traveler SP has a lot offer as well.
Many more regular clubs and restaurants, etc than in Rio, apart from just seeking PFP sex.
As far as the Clinicas in SP vs Termas in Rio.
They're just completely different venues.
We're all different. Some guys will prefer the simple presentation and selection of the various beauties of a nice Clinica, others will enjoy the fun and banter before the sex in a Terma.
Both are great!
It's individual preference.
SP for sure has a better upscale night time club scene.
Scandalo and clubs like it in SP are in a different league, vs Barbarelas in Rio.
I enjoy the Centro scene in Rio much more though than in SP. The many American Bars and the small prives, as well as the unique VM are fun to search for diamonds.
Both great places to visit, neither better than the other, just different, depending on one's agenda and taste.
Member #4732
01-09-17, 23:38
As far as the Clinicas in SP vs Termas in Rio.
They're just completely different venues.
We're all different. Some guys will prefer the simple presentation and selection of the various beauties of a nice Clinica, others will enjoy the fun and banter before the sex in a Terma.
Both are great!Agree with all of your post, but I just want to clarify something. The comparison of Rio and SP is not about SP clinicas vs RJ termas. That is a false comparison that crept into this sub because one guy said Brooklin clinica was his favorite place and another guy asked (illogically) if it was better than 4 x 4 (terma). If comparisons are to be done, it should be apples to apples.
I am only being a stickler here be / see otherwise the invalid comparisons become repeated again and again in a forum. As shown by it cropping up in your post, despite several attempts to short circuit it.
Anyway, nit aside, your larger point is correct, both places have more than enough to offer any horny punter more than he can consume.
AltoBomGosto
01-10-17, 09:26
Least Sunday I went to Tangara.
I choose Bella, toung nice looking brunette, DFK, BBBJ CWG, more BBBJ till I CIM. She attends college during the week and only shows up on Sundays.
ABG.
Agree with all of your post, but I just want to clarify something. The comparison of Rio and SP is not about SP clinicas vs RJ termas. That is a false comparison that crept into this sub because one guy said Brooklin clinica was his favorite place and another guy asked (illogically) if it was better than 4 x 4 (terma). If comparisons are to be done, it should be apples to apples.
I am only being a stickler here be / see otherwise the invalid comparisons become repeated again and again in a forum. As shown by it cropping up in your post, despite several attempts to short circuit it.
Anyway, nit aside, your larger point is correct, both places have more than enough to offer any horny punter more than he can consume.Ok, however, IMO, there's nothing wrong with explaining the differences and comparing different venues, in different cities or same city.
That's kind of what the ISG about.
And actually part of the comparison between Rio and SP is in fact the Rio Termas vs SP CLnicas.
Explaining how they are different type venues, and prices and hours of operation, type of garotas, etc.
Of course there is much more to it than just those particular venues, however, I don't see it as a false comparison as you say.
It's just a comparison of 2 different type venues, so one can decide what they may prefer.
It's part of the total comparison of the 2 cities.
Xkalibur80
01-12-17, 01:42
Been reading this thread for some time and finally I have decided to give SP a go. I have frequented both Panama City and Havana in the past but based on what I have read here and what my friend has told me, Brazil is where its at. Plan is to visit SP either the 2nd or 3rd week of Feb for 5 days.
From what I have understood thus far, Tangara and Scandolo are the pick up joints with clinicas complimenting the mongering scene but I could be wrong.
Feel free to send me a PM to guide me in the right direction.
Azn Safado
01-12-17, 02:42
I did not specifically compare clinica management to 4 x 4. I said the clinical management in SP is night and day compared to putaria management in Rio. And I stand by that. The clinicas in SP are clean, well run, and they invest in infrastructure. They offer poster discounts and some offer frequent visitor cards with half price bonus after so many visits. When it comes to ensuring better service, I refer to the fact that the higher end places in SP the management actively solicit customer satisfaction feedback and pay attention to what regular customers say. In SP you find that the regular clinica visitors are treated like club members. They lounge in the reception areas which are full of couches, have drinks, chat and treat it like a clubhouse. You do not see that in the Rio scene which is more like fast food service. I am pretty confident that this attention to detail and customer focus translates into higher customer satisfaction. Poorly reviewed girls are asked to leave. In my experience in Rio, I never saw this kind of situation. I know girls that work in Rio and in SP. The stories I hear from them regarding the different management styles are very telling. I do not mean to say that SP "ensures" better service each and every time, I am talking averages.
I agree with everything Rovnak said about SP clinicas. I think the Rio clinicas suck as far as environment or setup is concerned. They are located in office buildings and the waiting areas are very crammed. Even the larger clinicas like Bel Prazer only have one bench in the waiting area. None have sofas where you can chill and use their WIFI to wait for another lineup. Instead, you have to pick somebody or leave. Alternatively, you can come back later to try to see another presentation but that's a hassle having to walk around Centro just to kill some time. In SP, you can hang out on the couches for a couple of hours and eventually see the whole lineup circulate through via the girls presenting themselves to other customers. Also, all the girls in the Rio clinicas nowadays wear the same thing. Tight white t-shirt and white leggings. At least this is the case in the larger clinicas. It makes it feel even more "clinical", like a doctor's visit. Ha.
Been reading this thread for some time and finally I have decided to give SP a go. I have frequented both Panama City and Havana in the past but based on what I have read here and what my friend has told me, Brazil is where its at. Plan is to visit SP either the 2nd or 3rd week of Feb for 5 days.
From what I have understood thus far, Tangara and Scandolo are the pick up joints with clinicas complimenting the mongering scene but I could be wrong.
Feel free to send me a PM to guide me in the right direction.Having been indoctrinated by the Rio terma scene, Helpee, & Meia Pataca. I think Tangara is a total waste of time. You come in, the girls come out, introduce themselves parade style in a single file line and go back to their waiting area. You have approx. 5 - 10 seconds to check them out and they won't return until the next guy comes in. WTF? It's like an Orthodox Jewish religious ceremony where the men are kept separate from the women. If you see something you like and you don't select them after the first "drive by," you have to get the manager's attention to get the girl to come back again.
There's no time to interview, all that has to take place after you've selected them. So theoretically, you can't get an idea of what she will or will not do until you've already taken her back to the room. The last time I was there I got majorly pissed because the girl didn't do anal, and I didn't find out until it was too late. For that reason I've never been back. Been frequenting Casarao, IMHO Casarao is Helpee Lite, it does not have the variety you'd been accustomed to if you've ever been to a terma, 4 x 4 for example. Butt all things considered, it will do. Next on my list is Scandallo's. Never been there but many of the freelance GDPs I've hooked up with say they work there on weekends.
Moved to SP about a year ago for work, also have been having major good luck with non-pros that I've met through my work. Sao Paulo is OK with me. A tad reluctant to spend much time in Rio anymore. Specifically, for purposes of logistics and increased crime. Plus, Sao Paulo has an advanced public transportation system, Uber is easy to use also.
Jimmy Boy 99
01-13-17, 01:39
Having been indoctrinated by the Rio terma scene, Helpee, & Meia Pataca. I think Tangara is a total waste of time. You come in, the girls come out, introduce themselves parade style in a single file line and go back to their waiting area. You have approx. 5 - 10 seconds to check them out and they won't return until the next guy comes in. WTF? It's like an Orthodox Jewish religious ceremony where the men are kept separate from the women. If you see something you like and you don't select them after the first "drive by," you have to get the manager's attention to get the girl to come back again.
There's no time to interview, all that has to take place after you've selected them. So theoretically, you can't get an idea of what she will or will not do until you've already taken her back to the room. The last time I was there I got majorly pissed because the girl didn't do anal, and I didn't find out until it was too late. For that reason I've never been back. Snip.Actually, in Tangara some of the girls do hang out in the lounge area and you could go talk to them. In any case, at any clinica (or Rio prive) you can have the girl you like chat with you before you go to the room to see if she does what you want her to do in a session.
Xkalibur80
01-13-17, 02:16
Having been indoctrinated by the Rio terma scene, Helpee, & Meia Pataca. I think Tangara is a total waste of time. You come in, the girls come out, introduce themselves parade style in a single file line and go back to their waiting area. You have approx. 5 - 10 seconds to check them out and they won't return until the next guy comes in. WTF? It's like an Orthodox Jewish religious ceremony where the men are kept separate from the women. If you see something you like and you don't select them after the first "drive by," you have to get the manager's attention to get the girl to come back again.
There's no time to interview, all that has to take place after you've selected them. So theoretically, you can't get an idea of what she will or will not do until you've already taken her back to the room. The last time I was there I got majorly pissed because the girl didn't do anal, and I didn't find out until it was too late. For that reason I've never been back. Been frequenting Casarao, IMHO Casarao is Helpee Lite, it does not have the variety you'd been accustomed to if you've ever been to a terma, 4 x 4 for example. Butt all things considered, it will do. Next on my list is Scandallo's. Never been there but many of the freelance GDPs I've hooked up with say they work there on weekends.
Moved to SP about a year ago for work, also have been having major good luck with non-pros that I've met through my work. Sao Paulo is OK with me. A tad reluctant to spend much time in Rio anymore. Specifically, for purposes of logistics and increased crime. Plus, Sao Paulo has an advanced public transportation system, Uber is easy to use also.Are you living in SP now? If so, would love to tap into your expertise and showing me the ropes. I am accustomed to the bar pick up scene in PTY and Havana so wondering if there any such places in SP.
Been frequenting Casarao, IMHO Casarao is Helpee Lite, it does not have the variety you'd been accustomed to if you've ever been to a terma, 4 x 4 for example. But all things considered, it will do. Next on my list is Scandallo's. Never been there but many of the freelance GDPs I've hooked up with say they work there on weekends.I went to Casarao American Bar one time, but did not return. The reason was because of all of those women in there with the booty on duty, I only saw one who I was attracted to! So, that made the place not my cup of tea. I did not session, but I wish I had just to see what the rooms were like. What's your opinion on that? Also, how available is anal? Hell, I had probably my best anal session of my entire trip right next door at dingy Balneario American Bar LOL!
Now, Scandallo was the exact opposite for me in terms of attractive ladies being available. Everywhere I looked! But, hommes you better be prepared to pay up! Of course, paying more won't automatically mean better service (I did have all good sessions at Scandallo). But, you will have better-looking women to choose from, at least when compared to Casarao (and I say most definitely as compared to the clinicas too). And that's a certainty! IMHO hehehe!
Are you living in SP now? If so, would love to tap into your expertise and showing me the ropes. I am accustomed to the bar pick up scene in PTY and Havana so wondering if there any such places in SP.Yeah, living in Sampa. Thanks for juggling my memory. Was trying to remember this spot I used to go to in PTY. Golden T'something. Tangara reminded me a lot of that spot. Minus the bleach blond Colombians with silicone tits. Did not like it at all, only went there because it was close to my hotel. PM me your contact info if you need a wingman.
Member #4732
01-13-17, 14:22
Are you living in SP now? If so, would love to tap into your expertise and showing me the ropes. I am accustomed to the bar pick up scene in PTY and Havana so wondering if there any such places in SP.I am living in SP now. I know all the pro places. I know some girls looking to free lance at bars where they can meet gringos in particular, sort of like Emporium in Ipanema, I suppose. A place that is a mostly non pro, but where a pro can mingle and approach clients. Would All Blacks be such a place? Or others?
Member #4732
01-13-17, 14:43
Having been indoctrinated by the Rio terma scene, Helpee, & Meia Pataca. I think Tangara is a total waste of time. You come in, the girls come out, introduce themselves parade style in a single file line and go back to their waiting area. You have approx. 5 - 10 seconds to check them out and they won't return until the next guy comes in. WTF? It's like an Orthodox Jewish religious ceremony where the men are kept separate from the women. If you see something you like and you don't select them after the first "drive by," you have to get the manager's attention to get the girl to come back again.
There's no time to interview, all that has to take place after you've selected them. So theoretically, you can't get an idea of what she will or will not do until you've already taken her back to the room. The last time I was there I got majorly pissed because the girl didn't do anal, and I didn't find out until it was too late. For that reason I've never been back. Been frequenting Casarao, IMHO Casarao is Helpee Lite, it does not have the variety you'd been accustomed to if you've ever been to a terma, 4 x 4 for example. Butt all things considered, it will do. Next on my list is Scandallo's. Never been there but many of the freelance GDPs I've hooked up with say they work there on weekends.
Moved to SP about a year ago for work, also have been having major good luck with non-pros that I've met through my work. Sao Paulo is OK with me. A tad reluctant to spend much time in Rio anymore. Specifically, for purposes of logistics and increased crime. Plus, Sao Paulo has an advanced public transportation system, Uber is easy to use also.Well you just described the difference be / t a clinica / prive and a boate, those are the normal differences. Nothing specific to Tangara. Actually, with all due respect, it was your fault for not interviewing the girl more if you have strict requirements. Tangara is extremely accommodating in allowing the girls to sit with you and converse a bit before committing, you just have to ask Takuma or the other coordinator. So, yes, like any other clinica there is a lineup. But there is plenty of opportunity to conduct an interview, just ask. And the coordinators generally know which girls do anal etc, that is part of their job.
As for Casarao and 4 x 4, actually, I would argue there is more variety in Casarao. SP has girls from all over Brasil, all body types. There are easily up to 100 girls in Casarao, where as 4 x 4 has about 50 these days and they are mostly cariocas. Which is a point in their favor for those that like cariocas. But the comparison of Casarao to Help is a good one, though Casarao has rooms on premise and Help did not.
Larry David
01-13-17, 15:39
Actually, in Tangara some of the girls do hang out in the lounge area and you could go talk to them. In any case, at any clinica (or Rio prive) you can have the girl you like chat with you before you go to the room to see if she does what you want her to do in a session.At Tangara you can always walk over to where the girls lounge and talk to them, or tell the manager you want a girl who does anal, or whatever, and they will tell you. But if you see a girl you like, be sure to pull her aside and talk to her first. Some of the girls who are open to anal might need to get ready for you before going to the room.
I went to Casarao American Bar one time, but did not return. The reason was because of all of those women in there with the booty on duty, I only saw one who I was attracted to! So, that made the place not my cup of tea. I did not session, but I wish I had just to see what the rooms were like. What's your opinion on that? Also, how available is anal? Hell, I had probably my best anal session of my entire trip right next door at dingy Balneario American Bar LOL!
Now, Scandallo was the exact opposite for me in terms of attractive ladies being available. Everywhere I looked! But, hommes you better be prepared to pay up! Of course, paying more won't automatically mean better service (I did have all good sessions at Scandallo). But, you will have better-looking women to choose from, at least when compared to Casarao (and I say most definitely as compared to the clinicas too). And that's a certainty! IMHO hehehe!My opinion of the facilities at Casarao: There are maybe 30 rooms, each with shower, queen size bed, mirrored walls, very clean, and the staff is very efficient. Anal, no problem, you have ample time to interview if they do or don't before you go upstairs. Downside, on a busy weekend there can be a very long wait. Think Milo's brothel in Catch- 22.
IMHO: Balneario can be a bit of a crap shoot, as it's a serious Brasiliero hangout, novice gringos are apt to hook up with a passer through chick not from Sao Paulo who is just looking for a fast real and will try to rip you off once you get back to the room. Last time I was there it was about 95 degrees outside and the fan didn't work in the room. She refused to do anal, after agreeing to on the floor. Thinking she could tell from my accent that I a gringo. No problem, informed the manager, he comped my bar tab (r $90). Think she got fired, never saw her there again. I usually swing by there after I leave Casarao. Did she her working the street below Caribe Bar. Conversely, the rooms in Casarao are AC not fans.
Are you living in SP now? If so, would love to tap into your expertise and showing me the ropes. I am accustomed to the bar pick up scene in PTY and Havana so wondering if there any such places in SP.Rio is much better to monger and easier (this is my personal opinion).
You can only go to a district and find many places in the same area unlike Sao Paulo you always have to travel from a place to another place to see what's available.
You can find many good places in Rio de Janeiro if you check the Rio forum you can see some information.
Price is less expensive than Sao Paulo, it depends where.
You can also find good prives in Rio de Janeiro especially in Barra the tijuka, there are many places in Rio where you can relax and talk to the girl before fucking.
Member #4732
01-13-17, 22:18
Rio is much better to monger and easier (this is my personal opinion).
You can only go to a district and find many places in the same area unlike Sao Paulo you always have to travel from a place to another place to see what's available.
You can find many good places in Rio de Janeiro if you check the Rio forum you can see some information.
Price is less expensive than Sao Paulo, it depends where.
You can also find good prives in Rio de Janeiro especially in Barra the tijuka, there are many places in Rio where you can relax and talk to the girl before fucking."Tangara is a sex club? Which city you prefer Sao Paulo or Rio? I only Mongered in Rio de Janeiro I really like it because it is really easy to find girls with (quality price) Tangara (the room is included? 200 reais one hour.
Tangara is the only sex club with a low price in Sao Paulo?
I agree with you there are many girls, I've never tried Sao Paulo when I read the reports I get the feeling mongering in Sao Paulo is way more expensive than Rio de Janeiro."
That is what you just wrote in December. Have you actually visited Sao Paulo yet? If not, why do you come onto the SP sub and claim that RJ is better when you have no personal knowledge? You are not doing any potential future visitors any favors spreading misinformation. Mongering is neither more expensive or less expensive in either city. Both have their low, mid and high end places. Sao Paulo just has more of all of them.
Well you just described the difference be / t a clinica / prive and a boate, those are the normal differences. Nothing specific to Tangara. Actually, with all due respect, it was your fault for not interviewing the girl more if you have strict requirements. Tangara is extremely accommodating in allowing the girls to sit with you and converse a bit before committing, you just have to ask Takuma or the other coordinator. So, yes, like any other clinica there is a lineup. But there is plenty of opportunity to conduct an interview, just ask. And the coordinators generally know which girls do anal etc, that is part of their job.
As for Casarao and 4 x 4, actually, I would argue there is more variety in Casarao. SP has girls from all over Brasil, all body types. There are easily up to 100 girls in Casarao, where as 4 x 4 has about 50 these days and they are mostly cariocas. Which is a point in their favor for those that like cariocas. But the comparison of Casarao to Help is a good one, though Casarao has rooms on premise and Help did not.Casarao has more variety than 4 x 4, not hardly!
Typical night at Casarao is usually pretty lilly white. An occasional mulata or two or three or four or five or six, on a busy night. Next you'll find an occasional Nippon-Brasiliera mixed in with a few indigenous Brasilieras. If you find a straight up Black chick she'll be from Rio, Bahia, Nordeste or Espiritu Santo. Never seen more than 10 straight up Black chicks there at the same time. Lots of southern Brasilieras from Florianopolis, Porto Alegre, (sexy smoking hot German & Italian stock) and from the interior of Brasil (if this is what you mean by more variety, yes then maybe). Additionally, Casarao is becoming the spot for college girls and single moms who need to pull together their rent money and school tuition. Typically these are one trick ponies who you'll never see on the regular. But has been my experience that they are the ones to go after as they are not as jaded, desperate, and gold digging as the seasoned pros. If you're lucky you can get there their number and actually have a "real" date with them sometime. Been there, done that (Note: this would require at least an intermediate working knowledge of Portuguese). Also, unlike like the good ole' days in Rio, these chicks will not pose for fotos. Makes it difficult to supplement your data with hard evidence or identify the duds.
One night I counted 123 girls and 200+ guys. Keep reminding myself to swing by the Judicial Federal Registro and look in the fire codes for what the total capacity is for Casarao. Figure does not include the smoker's lounge as I hate cigarette smoke, only time I go in there is if I want to fire up a joint. Both bars were open upstairs and the stairs in the back to downstairs was open allowing lots of room to circulate. Found my regular Rebekka (pronounced: he-Bekka). Got upstairs waited approx. 10-15 minutes for a room, there were maybe 20 couples in queue as the entire lobby was full to standing room only. Which made me think room assignment was based on if you had a quarenta minutos ou uma hora as we leapfrogged others who were there before us (did a uma hora GFE / completa are $290).
IMHO: Tangara is a total waste of time. The variety there is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get. The talent and selection is totally inconsistent on a daily basis. If you're lucky you might find something you like who'll be there on the regular. Lots of girls from other parts of South America, you don't really find that as Casarao. As far as that chick not doing anal, did not mention that she did the first I took her. It was the second time she did not.
Case in point, had sessions with Cintia a rack of times last year. Chick loved anal and could make you cum by doing Kegels with her pussy. Also could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. Have not seen her since last NOV. Also, feel that Rio is not a good choice anymore in terms of personal safety / security. Was there for the Olympics, would have felt much more safer if I had been strapped. Hoods, pickpockets, bums, thieves, and thugs galore.
Rio IMHO these days puts the "G" in ghetto! In SP you might spend a little more time getting from Point A to Point be, but you can do it without getting robbed or having to deal with ripoff non-metered cabbies. It takes me 20 minutes to walk from my flat to Casarao, will often do so at 01:00 or 02:00 in the AM. Done this several times, perfectly safe no worries. Also, with Casarao if the wait is too long, I usually bring them back to my flat for a todo o noite. You actually get more bang for your real this way.
Fotos are Casarao regulars: Aninha, Marcela, & Rebekka.
"Tangara is a sex club? Which city you prefer Sao Paulo or Rio? I only Mongered in Rio de Janeiro I really like it because it is really easy to find girls with (quality price) Tangara (the room is included? 200 reais one hour.
Tangara is the only sex club with a low price in Sao Paulo?
I agree with you there are many girls, I've never tried Sao Paulo when I read the reports I get the feeling mongering in Sao Paulo is way more expensive than Rio de Janeiro."
That is what you just wrote in December. Have you actually visited Sao Paulo yet? If not, why do you come onto the SP sub and claim that RJ is better when you have no personal knowledge? You are not doing any potential future visitors any favors spreading misinformation. Mongering is neither more expensive or less expensive in either city. Both have their low, mid and high end places. Sao Paulo just has more of all of them.I wrote this report before going to Sao Paulo, I was in Sao Paulo for one weeks now I can say I prefer Rio over Sao Paulo (that's my experience) we are all different maybe because I don't know Sao Paulo as well as Rio de Janeiro I am back in Rio.
I think that all of the current activity and discussion in the Sao Paulo thread is great! For far too many years, it was all the postings and opinions of pretty much just one guy. It's invaluable to have the benefit of a diverse set of views from many different people. And then, you decide for yourself. I think that Sampa is a great destination for mongering with many options to choose from in multiple market segments. I didn't find exactly what I was looking for in Sampa (a venue with really good-looking girls like at Scandallo and Bomboa, but at mid-market prices), but I would most definitely go to Sao Paulo again. Hot Brazilian girls, good food and drink, plus way easier to get around than I thought it would be. So why not? Rio termas number 1, German FKKs number 2, and Sao Paulo on the whole number 3. IMHO! And, except for The DR and The PI, I've been to all the major mongering destinations in the world. Based on what I know, I seriously doubt that going to The DR or The PI would change my top 3 rankings.
Member #4732
01-14-17, 15:25
I wrote this report before going to Sao Paulo, I was in Sao Paulo for one weeks now I can say I prefer Rio over Sao Paulo (that's my experience) we are all different maybe because I don't know Sao Paulo as well as Rio de Janeiro I am back in Rio.Yes, we all have opinions, just wanted to verify that you were basing yours on what you saw, not just what you read.
Cheers.
Member #4732
01-14-17, 15:40
Casarao has more variety than 4 x 4, not hardly!
Typical night at Casarao is usually pretty lilly white. An occasional mulata or two or three or four or five or six, on a busy night. Next you'll find an occasional Nippon-Brasiliera mixed in with a few indigenous Brasilieras. If you find a straight up Black chick she'll be from Rio, Bahia, Nordeste or Espiritu Santo. Never seen more than 10 straight up Black chicks there at the same time. Lots of southern Brasilieras from Florianopolis, Porto Alegre, (sexy smoking hot German & Italian stock) and from the interior of Brasil (if this is what you mean by more variety, yes then maybe). Additionally, Casarao is becoming the spot for college girls and single moms who need to pull together their rent money and school tuition. Typically these are one trick ponies who you'll never see on the regular. But has been my experience that they are the ones to go after as they are not as jaded, desperate, and gold digging as the seasoned pros. If you're lucky you can get there their number and actually have a "real" date with them sometime. Been there, done that (Note: this would require at least an intermediate working knowledge of Portuguese). Also, unlike like the good ole' days in Rio, these chicks will not pose for fotos. Makes it difficult to supplement your data with hard evidence or identify the duds.
One night I counted 123 girls and 200+ guys. Keep reminding myself to swing by the Judicial Federal Registro and look in the fire codes for what the total capacity is for Casarao. Figure does not include the smoker's lounge as I hate cigarette smoke, only time I go in there is if I want to fire up a joint. Both bars were open upstairs and the stairs in the back to downstairs was open allowing lots of room to circulate. Found my regular Rebekka (pronounced: he-Bekka). Got upstairs waited approx. 10-15 minutes for a room, there were maybe 20 couples in queue as the entire lobby was full to standing room only. Which made me think room assignment was based on if you had a quarenta minutos ou uma hora as we leapfrogged others who were there before us (did a uma hora GFE / completa are $290)..Good details on Casarao. I agree in general with your description, though we might disagree on whether that constitutes more variety than 4 x 4, which is a minor point. The larger point is Casarao is really banging these days. It is the probably the hottest club for putaria in Brasil. Girls are coming from all over to work there. At Christmas, I saw a long time Rio GP, that I knew from free lance, Cancun, 4 x 4 and MC. I always run into her. Sure enough first night back at Casaarao, I see this hot mulata, from behind. She turns around its the RJ girl, still built like a shit house, passista and exercise freak. She is coming to SP B/ C that is where the action is now. The word is out amongst GPS, that Casarao is it. Its almost too successful at this point. You need to go upstairs before 1:00 or you wait to long for a room. I also worry about the fire hazard, fortunately it looks like there are not flammable materials. But is there even an emergency exit downstairs or upstairs? I was there during a power outage, and I went immediately to the front, and left soon after, not wanting to risk a stampede.
Just to carry the variety discussion a bit, it seems you agree that Casarao draws girls from all over Brasil. Your gripe is not as many mulatas / negras as you want. I am in the same boat, I prefer mulatas and negras. But to be honest, even the RJ clubs are not full of these girls, or at least not full of what I would consider good ones. Last time I went to 4 x 4 there were about 40 girls, and only 2 good mulatas imo. So if Casarao has 6 on a good night, that's pretty good.
The thing that separates Casarao from the rest IMO is that girls work when they please, so the turnover is large, in a good way. I am not a guy that repeats often even with the best, so high turnover is a plus in my book. Nothing is worse than going to a place and seeing the same girls over and over.
I am not sure from your report that you have a particular dislike for Tangara or just a dislike of clinicas in general. The girl who did anal once and then not the next time, I can see where that would be an aggravation. I don't see anal so this is never a problem for me. However, the girls at clinicas often see many clients per day so they may be sore, etc. I try to factor that into my evaluation and expectation.
Member #4732
01-15-17, 02:22
I should self edit my post, where I said that Casaarao is the hottest club. Probably Scandalo is as much or more of a draw. The difference is that at Scandalo and Bomboa and such the girls have to commit to working a minimum of 4 (I thought it was 5 before) nights or they pay penalties, whereas Casarao is a just show up and work joint. Such a simple concept but effective, surprising there are not more places like it.
Whereas Casarao is a just show up and work joint. Such a simple concept but effective, surprising there are not more places like it.I was just thinking this yesterday and absolutely agree. A Casarao-type club with more girls to my personal tastes to select from would be the perfect lower mid-market venue in Sampa for me I think.
Yes, we all have opinions, just wanted to verify that you were basing yours on what you saw, not just what you read.
Cheers.I agree Sao Paulo is good because there are more different girls, I found some white Brazilian with natural blond hair and blue eyes of European descent or Asian Brazilians, even in Rio it is really difficult to find one or even impossible.
I am not into clinicas I am more into clubs or termas that's why I still prefer Rio De Janeiro over Sao Paulo, the clubs in Sao Paulo costs expensive, you have to pay the entrance that is not cheap, and the room separated unlike clubs in Rio de Janeiro always using uber from a place to another place is not cheap.
Sao Paulo is good for short term and Rio is good for a long term.
If you like clinicas or you have much money to spend Sao Paulo is a good place to monger (This is my own opinion and experience) we are all different, I am not a Sao Paulo expert because I only stayed 10 days (over 1 week) maybe if I live in Sao Paulo someday I will find more tips.
I was staying in hotel Caesar Business, as was the 1st day in Belo, (I am new in Brazil) so wasn't knowing any places to have fun, Asked at the hotel reception for a nice place to hang out, and he suggested a pick up bar near to it, name I don't remember, so went to the club, the moment I entered I was light by 89 reals and I was to pay what I consume, I am just having a seat there and I am welcomed by 2 chicks, one is 22 , little chubby and second one little older about 30 to 36, we drank there and the party starts. There were few of the stunning strippers who were performing there, and I had my eye on a typical Brazilian dark skinned girl who was exactly my type, I was in no mood to take any one to hotel just went there for having some fun. I invited the Brazilian stripper to my table and we started having conversation. I ordered drinks for her and she was completely flat, she thought I was a millionaire, and did;'t explained about my financial status, just gave her 50 reals and she was impressed and she held my hammer in her hand and the stunning part is that all this was happening in the night club. She was gently stroking and invited me to the toilet area which I refused as I was enjoying her soft hand, movements in my pants, we were kissing each other DFK, I thought for 50 reals its a really good thing. I didn't wanted to fuck her, so continued the party and enjoyed the conversation.
InternationalX
01-20-17, 22:03
Anyone ever order from Sao Paulo Escort Guide (SPGE) ?
http://www.saopauloescortguide.com/
Expensive but the convenience seems nice. Thanks in advance.
Member #4732
01-21-17, 01:17
I am not into clinicas I am more into clubs or termas that's why I still prefer Rio De Janeiro over Sao Paulo, the clubs in Sao Paulo costs expensive, you have to pay the entrance that is not cheap, and the room separated unlike clubs in Rio de Janeiro always using uber from a place to another place is not cheap.I am not trying to argue with you as much as present a different perspective.
Lets look at those points. Yes, the high end Sao Paulo clubs are expensive, but so are the Rio high end clubs. SP has low, mid and high clubs, as does Rio. So you choose your price range in both places.
Lets take the high end clubs: If you go to a high end club in either place you are looking to spend 600 or more, all in, in either place. Some of the SP clubs are marginally more expensive, but at that level it becomes marginal cost. You are paying the premium to mingle and have a lot of choice. The top SP clubs are at least twice the size of the Rio clubs and have twice as many girls to choose, so the odds are higher of finding a few more top girls to choose from, no matter what your taste. To your point about the separation of cost. Entrada, programa and room. Some Rio clubs also separate the costs that way. But the separation of cost is just bookkeeping difference. Its the all in cost that matters. When you look at the entrada cost, you have to consider whether it includes "consumacao" meaning your entrance includes a credit for some or all of the cost of the entrance to put toward food or drink. Of the Rio clubs only Cancun does this. The other Rio clubs may have lower entrance but they don't offer consumacao.
Lets look at the programa, the big difference is that Rio clubs have fixed cost programa and the SP clubs are almost all negotiated be / t the client and the GP. So this can work to your advantage or disadvantage. In particular, later in the night you can get a discount in SP. Speaking of late at night, the SP clubs are far more late night friendly. The Rio clubs either shut down at midnight (Centro) or wind down severely. The SP clubs go to 4 am, and new girls are still arriving as late as 10 pm. That is a big difference. Also, RJ clubs in centro are M-F only. SP clubs are M-Saturday and in at least 3 cases Sunday too. Then there is "take out", another HUGE difference. When I first came to Brazil I almost always did take out, as it was so nice to spend the whole night with a girl. I had many girls willing to go back to hotel or apartment and do private video even. That was before social media, today girls are justifiably much more reluctant to do photos or video, understandably so. In Rio none of the top clubs have take out, you have to do the program there in the club.
In summary, its not just a matter of marginal cost, its a complex set of differences, club size, number of girls, hours of operation, days of operation, options to stay in or take out, negotiation vs fixed price. Lots of variables.
Lets take mid range. Personally, I don't think Rio has anything to compare to Casarao in terms of size and price point. You can consider Rio clubs like MV30,502 and such as mid range, but Casarao blows them away in terms of size and atmosphere. As Casarao is negotiable you can wind up paying as little as 200 or as much as 600 depending on time and program negotiation. Maybe the new Help will compare to Casarao at some point, remains to be seen.
On the low end: I am not a low end club guy so I can't say too much. I went one time to Vila Mimosa and the stink was appalling so if that's what guys like about Rio, good luck to them. SP has its own trashy clubs on Paulista, I never enter them be / see if I am there Casarao is the better option by far.
Again, not trying to argue with you but just trying to counter the strange trend on this forum to consider SP "a clinica only place". There are many mongers who would never pay for a club girl considering the value in the clinicas. But if you like clubs then SP has a very compelling scene.
Then there is "take out", another HUGE difference. When I first came to Brazil I almost always did take out, as it was so nice to spend the whole night with a girl. I had many girls willing to go back to hotel or apartment and do private video even. That was before social media, today girls In Rio none of the top clubs have take out, you have to do the program there in the club.Yes, but it's super duper easy to get telephone numbers (even if the girls aren't supposed to give them out), and then from that point forward arrange for "take out". I'm sure that all the Rio lovers here have lost count of how many GDPs have given up their personal contact info so that you can make arrangements to see them outside of the club. So maybe not on that first meeting at the club, but most certainly later on at another time.
Anyone ever order from Sao Paulo Escort Guide (SPGE) ?
http://www.saopauloescortguide.com/
Expensive but the convenience seems nice. Thanks in advance.Anna's real name is Marcela, she lives a 10 minute walk away from my flat. Completa GFE at are $300. Muito bom!
Member #4732
01-21-17, 17:45
Yes, but it's super duper easy to get telephone numbers (even if the girls aren't supposed to give them out), and then from that point forward arrange for "take out". I'm sure that all the Rio lovers here have lost count of how many GDPs have given up their personal contact info so that you can make arrangements to see them outside of the club. So maybe not on that first meeting at the club, but most certainly later on at another time.Yes true. Its always nice to collect numbers. But that is a deferred pleasure. Its even better to have the option to consummate things that very evening, particularly if there is good chemistry.
Yes, but it's super duper easy to get telephone numbers (even if the girls aren't supposed to give them out), and then from that point forward arrange for "take out". I'm sure that all the Rio lovers here have lost count of how many GDPs have given up their personal contact info so that you can make arrangements to see them outside of the club. So maybe not on that first meeting at the club, but most certainly later on at another time.Why not on the first meeting, if she's down to fuck for $$ she's down to fuck for $$ When is irrelevant. I've got numbers going back to '03 and some of them are still good!
Why not on the first meeting, if she's down to fuck for $$ she's down to fuck for $$ When is irrelevant. I've got numbers going back to '03 and some of them are still good!In all the countries in which I have hobbied I have found it easiest to get the contact details of Rio GDPs. I can't recall ever having been refused. However, actually linking up with them has not been as easy.
In all the countries in which I have hobbied I have found it easiest to get the contact details of Rio GDPs. I can't recall ever having been refused. However, actually linking up with them has not been as easy.Had the added advantage of being able to get to Rio 4-5 times a year due to my work and as a result was able to maintain contact. Upside, maybe it wasn't Rio, but Espiritu Santo, or MG, or Sao Paulo, got a chance to see a lot of the country!
Eric Cartman
01-23-17, 01:57
Actually, in Tangara some of the girls do hang out in the lounge area and you could go talk to them. In any case, at any clinica (or Rio prive) you can have the girl you like chat with you before you go to the room to see if she does what you want her to do in a session.This is true. I have had good screening times at Tangara -- when I see a girl I like in the line-up, I call her back afterwards (sometimes via manager) and then ask if she'd like to sit and chat for a few minutes. Usually I take them down the stairs to the courtyard in between the buildings. It's a great way to build some rapport and see if you think you'd get along. You can try to do the same at other clinicas but it can be more difficult. Always has worked well for me at Tangara due to the space.
Member #4732
01-25-17, 14:53
Went to Scandalo Tuesday night Jan 24, eve of a state holiday.
Enter before 7 pm pay 150 entrance but all is consumacao (credit for food / drink).
Enter after 7 pm pay 222 (or 250, don't recall) 150 in consumacao.
Arrived early, used up my 150 in the restaurant. Excellent menu, a good value for consumacao I ordered sushi mix and chicken tenders. I should have just ordered 1 dish instead of 2, as the portions were very generous and I was satisfied after the sushi and the chicken was sufficient for 2 people. Live and learn. Drinks are expensive, even a simple beer is 35 reais, soft drinks 20. Mixed drinks 50 or 60.
Number and quality of girls: impressive. By 6:30 there were already 50 girls lounging in restaurant and cafe. Bar / disco area does not open until 9:00.
House rules, girls must work M-F or T-Saturday - 8 hour shifts.
By 9 the bar / disco area was packed with female flesh, must have been 150 girls there. Just walking through crowd was like a Scorcese POV shot of some male fantasy, smoldering looks from curvaceous hotties, bundas shaking seductively, lots of dresses showing off cleavage and legs. A serious amount of talent on display. A visitor cannot help but be impressed. For my specific taste there were quite a few that I would love to have fucked, and would have paid. But how much I would pay is a different story. I talked to girls from all over, gauchas, amazonaense, mineiras, cariocas, goaina, floripa, paulistas, para, you name it. Did not meet many nordestinas but I only talked to be / t 10-20 of the throng. Typically, very few mulatas (unfortunately), though several jambo and delightful mixes.
The $ story: the house is fucking greedy. They want 200 for the room (hour is only option in house) or 250 for the saida.
Girls have pretty much standardized on opening at 600 for an hour in. 1500 for all night out. Then they negotiate from there. I had a funny conversation with one that was like the haggle scene in Life of Brian. She says "lets negotiate, I say 600, what do you say? Most immediately drop to 500 "for you". Then most say "500 is the minimum the house allows and they monitor everything" (like big brother). Phone number sharing is not allowed by the house and girls seem genuinely afraid to risk being kicked out for violating this rule (cameras and waiters watching)- of course they also use this to say "in room, of course, I can give it to you". One finally relented to giving me her number surreptitiously while I pretended to show her photos. Best done on couches, not at bar. I didn't force the issue with others. I am thinking I need some pocket clicker devices that I can click off numbers blindly and have it stored. Anybody have idea on something like that. As they will whisper the number but I have shitty memory particularly after drinks.
So the standard seems to be 500 + 200 for room + 150 (or 220) for entrance. So a minimum of 850 . Ouch. Take out is absurd, when the first told me 1500, I said that is a months rent no? She said yes. Clearly they are playing a high stake hit or miss game there. Many girls did not session yet they would not compete in discounting just to get "something". Its a shame for them and for us. They would rather go without than lower their standard. One girl quickly told me she would do 400. About 1:00 am another told me she would do 300 but when I asked her if she kissed she said "not much, that is a very personal thing". See ya.
All the girls were sweet, easy to chat up. I avoided buying any drinks for them, just chatted, flirted, and enjoyed the scenery. Have the number of a incredible bodied negra mix that will meet me this weekend, we'll see if I follow up on that.
I left at 2:00, having spent just my 150, but having enjoyed the wonderland. One thing I hat, hate, hate about Scandalo is the bar / disco area is ridiculously dark. I mean like "WTF dark". I felt that we should have been wearing miner's helmets with lamps. It really pissed me off a lot be / see I could not scan the crowd easily to see who I had not yet seen. Apparently, everyone complains but the management refuses to budge. For this reason and others I still think the Bomboa atmosphere is much better than Scandalo. Bomboa is large, but Scandalo is enormous. I'd say there were probably almost as many girls in Scandalo last night that all the top 5 Rio termas combined (4 x 4, Cancun, MC, Solarium and Centaurus). You could have partitioned Scandalo into little segments each representing the size of the Rio termas bar areas. Still, the prices are astronomical, and I kept thinking to myself "I have a in home date tomorrow with a 20 yo clinica girl who will rock my world for 200 . Why spend 850 tonight". So I stayed sober and kept my cash. If I had seen an absolutely irresistible dish or if my income situation was better I probably would have splurged. If you are visiting and want to splurge to feel like a king in a harem of truly impressive goddesses, it would be worth the excess.
Went to Scandalo Tuesday night Jan 24,....Thanks for the report. Just how difficult would it be to communicate with the girls without knowing Portuguese at Scandalo and other boites?
If I had seen an absolutely irresistible dish or if my income situation was better I probably would have splurged. If you are visiting and want to splurge to feel like a king in a harem of truly impressive goddesses, it would be worth the excess.That's just WTH I've been saying! You don't have to go there all the time and pay those high prices. I had a tute at Miruna rock my world (with DFK and anal) for an hour and a half at one-third the price of a Scandallo or a Bomboa. But if you have the cash to procure that goddess gash, then it's worth it to splurge once in awhile. As noted in my field report "Sampling Sampa", I had the pleasure of several irresistible dishes. Had to since I didn't know when I would be in Sao Paulo again. If you want to fuck some good-looking women, then go to Scandallo. As Rovnak says, the place is wall-to-wall fine! Not as many morenas (but there was a critical mass when I went) and virtually no negras (only one when I went), but damn! If you can't find anybody in there hot enough to give you a boner, then man I just don't know. I hate it for you!
Thanks for the report. Just how difficult would it be to communicate with the girls without knowing Portuguese at Scandalo and other boites?I would guess 50% can communicate with basic English skills. And I have met a few that spoke very good English.
Larry David
01-27-17, 07:28
Phone number sharing is not allowed by the house and girls seem genuinely afraid to risk being kicked out for violating this rule (cameras and waiters watching)- of course they also use this to say "in room, of course, I can give it to you". One finally relented to giving me her number surreptitiously while I pretended to show her photos. Best done on couches.Nice report. Like you, I like to get there early and consume food and beverage in the restaurant. I've had good luck getting numbers on the sofas. I like to camp out on a sofa in the back and wait for the girls to walk by. Invite the ones you want to sit and talk. After a few minutes of grabbing ass and laughing I had little issue getting numbers. A typical night was good for 5-7. Same as Casarao.
There is a bahiana working at Scandallo who has a fantastic rack. All natural full D's. Very firm. The nipples nearly point straight out. She was cool with letting me grab a couple squeezing handfuls in the smoking lounge. Her working name is Eduarda. I have her number but she is horrible at returning texts and she wanted 800 are to come by my place for 3 hours. Best to try her in house. Even if all you do is get numbers, Scandallo is great for lounging on a sofa and feeling up the girls. I met some great girls there, including my dog collar wearing submissive from goiania who would spend the night for 400 are.
Meanwhile, one of the Casarao girls is messaging me daily. Seems she wants to marry and have my children. LOL. Feel like Frank from "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5rasLWay7Y I'm going to make that who're my wife. LOL.
Member #4732
01-27-17, 13:36
That's just WTH I've been saying! You don't have to go there all the time and pay those high prices. I had a tute at Miruna rock my world (with DFK and anal) for an hour and a half at one-third the price of a Scandallo or a Bomboa. But if you have the cash to procure that goddess gash, then it's worth it to splurge once in awhile. As noted in my field report "Sampling Sampa", I had the pleasure of several irresistible dishes. Had to since I didn't know when I would be in Sao Paulo again. If you want to fuck some good-looking women, then go to Scandallo. As Rovnak says, the place is wall-to-wall fine! Not as many morenas (but there was a critical mass when I went) and virtually no negras (only one when I went), but damn! If you can't find anybody in there hot enough to give you a boner, then man I just don't know. I hate it for you!Yes, it's definitely a "luxury" expenditure, not an everyday one, unless you have cash to burn. I am not sure there is anywhere else in the world with that much high quality T&A for sale on parade under one roof. One option is to go there, get a testosterone rush and then go to Casarao to actually fuck. As for the mix, of course it depends on the day, but when I went it was by no means skewed blonde. I would say just as many morena clara, or more, as blondes, 2 negras, 3 mulatas, 5 morena jambo, and several India-negra (Amazonas / para) types, a pretty good smorgazabord.
Went to Scandalo Tuesday night Jan 24, eve of a state holiday.
Enter before 7 pm pay 150 entrance but all is consumacao (credit for food / drink).
Enter after 7 pm pay 222 (or 250, don't recall) 150 in consumacao.
Arrived early, used up my 150 in the restaurant. Excellent menu, a good value for consumacao I ordered sushi mix and chicken tenders. I should have just ordered 1 dish instead of 2, as the portions were very generous and I was satisfied after the sushi and the chicken was sufficient for 2 people. Live and learn. Drinks are expensive, even a simple beer is 35 reais, soft drinks 20. Mixed drinks 50 or 60.
Number and quality of girls: impressive. By 6:30 there were already 50 girls lounging in restaurant and cafe. Bar / disco area does not open until 9:00.
House rules, girls must work M-F or T-Saturday - 8 hour shifts..Sounds like Scandalo is like Bahamas used to be back in the 2000's. In 2014 I had a girl at Mirunas who was stunning. Blonde bahiana who had a Sofia Vergara look (but prettier IMO). And she was completa. Came back a few months later and tried to connect with her outside but she said she was going to Scandalo because it was F1 week. I know the F1 guys used to go to Bahamas back in the day so I figured Scandalo was the place with the best looking talent. I never made it there myself. When I am in Brazil clinicas fit my schedule better and the cost benefit is unbeatable IMO. It's true it can be hit or miss, but checking GPguia you can see which performers are showing up and which ones give good performances. Helped me a lot last time around.
JakePeacock
01-30-17, 14:21
Scandalo wouldn't hold a candle in Miami. Went on Saturday which should have the best of the best. Unfortunately most were probably mid late 20's, thick and slightly unmotivated. Had one good one but meh, charged a lot of money for not much.
Don't go to Romanza, they held my hostage for 2 hours trying to charge for champagne, had to call the police and shit. Very lame.
Overall not impressed by SP, maybe need to visit other places, maybe Rio is better.
Member #4732
01-30-17, 16:46
Scandalo wouldn't hold a candle in Miami. Went on Saturday which should have the best of the best. Unfortunately most were probably mid late 20's, thick and slightly unmotivated. Had one good one but meh, charged a lot of money for not much.
Don't go to Romanza, they held my hostage for 2 hours trying to charge for champagne, had to call the police and shit. Very lame.
Overall not impressed by SP, maybe need to visit other places, maybe Rio is better.Going to Romanza indicates you don't know SP at all so not surprised that you are not impressed. Boates are best Tue-Thursday. Saturday is the worst, far from best of the best. That must be a Miami thing. So there are places in Miami where you legally pick from over a 100 girls. Interesting.
Don't go to Romanza, they held my hostage for 2 hours trying to charge for champagne, had to call the police and shit. Very lame...Stopped by Romanza last Thursday, was in the process of paying the Brl $ 130,00 cover and a little voice told me, "nah fuck this place, the vibe is all wrong. " So I left, before I got out the door the greasy looking guy in the black suit with the Cardinal Richelieu beard had dropped the cover to Brl $50,00 as a "special discount" just for me. Have a light day Wednesday, so I think I might give Scandallo's a shot Tuesday night.
What I've found appealing about Sao Paulo is the abundance and availability of smoking hot non-Pros. Assuming you speak Portuguese and are cultural chameleon enough to date like a Brasiliero. I've been working in SP for almost two years and have always had a steady non-pro GF and a back-up or two on the side. Upside of dating a Brasiliera, they expect you to cheat, just don't throw it in their faces. There so much fine ass walking up and down Avenida Paulista from 0600 h - 2100 h, I heard the Prefeito is considering changing the name to Avenida Assmania!
Scandalo wouldn't hold a candle in Miami. Went on Saturday which should have the best of the best. Unfortunately most were probably mid late 20's, thick and slightly unmotivated. Had one good one but meh, charged a lot of money for not much.
Don't go to Romanza, they held my hostage for 2 hours trying to charge for champagne, had to call the police and shit. Very lame.
Overall not impressed by SP, maybe need to visit other places, maybe Rio is better.Forget going to Rio, I heard MIAMI was the best!
Sounds like Scandalo is like Bahamas used to be back in the 2000's. In 2014 I had a girl at Mirunas who was stunning. Blonde bahiana who had a Sofia Vergara look (but prettier IMO). And she was completa. Came back a few months later and tried to connect with her outside but she said she was going to Scandalo because it was F1 week. I know the F1 guys used to go to Bahamas back in the day so I figured Scandalo was the place with the best looking talent. I never made it there myself. When I am in Brazil clinicas fit my schedule better and the cost benefit is unbeatable IMO. It's true it can be hit or miss, but checking GPguia you can see which performers are showing up and which ones give good performances. Helped me a lot last time around.Scandalo is huge. Its 6 or 7 floors. The club area is big, the restaurant is big they even have a nice size patio part. The rooms very roomy and very nice.
Going to Romanza indicates you don't know SP at all so not surprised that you are not impressed. Boates are best Tue-Thursday. Saturday is the worst, far from best of the best. That must be a Miami thing. So there are places in Miami where you legally pick from over a 100 girls. Interesting.LOL Romanza. Yeah it was probably his first visit to SP, but in Miami there's a few places you can get a pick from 100 girls but probably not better than Scandallo. Maybe tootsie's is pretty close when it comes to talent and variety.
Went to Scandalo Tuesday night Jan 24, eve of a state holiday.
Enter before 7 pm pay 150 entrance but all is consumacao (credit for food / drink).
Enter after 7 pm pay 222 (or 250, don't recall) 150 in consumacao.
Arrived early, used up my 150 in the restaurant. Excellent menu, a good value for consumacao I ordered sushi mix and chicken tenders. I should have just ordered 1 dish instead of 2, as the portions were very generous and I was satisfied after the sushi and the chicken was sufficient for 2 people. Live and learn. Drinks are expensive, even a simple beer is 35 reais, soft drinks 20. Mixed drinks 50 or 60.
Number and quality of girls: impressive. By 6:30 there were already 50 girls lounging in restaurant and cafe. Bar / disco area does not open until 9:00.Finally got to Scandallo last night. Got there at around 1845 h paid the Brl $ 150,00 consumacao. After 1900 h it's Brl $220. Had the house sushi at Brl $65, a Bud at Brl $35, a "dry" martini at Brl $ 70,00 and a MonteCristo #2 ring at Brl $170,00. Was taken aback when I had to cash out at Brl $350,00 when I left. According to my calculations my bill should have been Brl $ 200. My logic was as you consume these items are deducted from your consumacao, once it's exhausted, the charges begin to accrue. Not on this fucking planet! Their methods, your consumaco is added to your tab and then deducted. Brasiliero accounting methods, if the girls don't fuck you the house is guaranteed to. IMHO the Brl $ 150,00 consumacao is only a savings if you bounce against the marginal cost incurred by the Brl $220,00 ingresso and consumacao after 1900 h. IMHO, curious as to feedback on this issue. Argued with cashier chick to no avail got weird looks from people standing close by. Always happens when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me! .
The sushi was OK, have paid more for a brewski in Sampa (would it kill these guys to add Heineken to the beer card? About the only thing I have issues with in Brasil is their corn beer. Cavemen brewed better beer), the Cuban was excellent. Only way to top that cigar would be smoking one in Havana. Kicker was the "dry" martini. My Aunt Sheila served drier martinis to her Tuesday afternoon church sewing circle & bible study group. Since I got there kinda' early sat watching the talent filter in. Reminded me of batting practice before a MLB game. But it was fun to watch. Not really the variety your find in Rio, but to quote The Cane, there was "critical mass. " All in all, these women were fucking gorgeous, tits, ass, thick thighs, wearing all types of smell good, smiling ear to ear and drop dead gorgeous faces. Except this one chick, I think it was a tranny, chick was all swoll' up and her voice was deeper than mine. She kinda' cozied up me being the FNG. * scared the fuck out of me when she spoke. Kindly asked her to "hoppa fora, por favor," at which point I feared for my life with the look she gave me.
The girls were chatty and friendly, was copping feels like a blind man reading a NYT best seller in braille and he can't wait to get the end. Stole a play from the Tangelo Twitter Tango and "just grabbed them by the pussy. " Humorous part of the evening was having to explain to this blonde from Porto Alegre that Canada was not part of the USA. Blondes, same the world over I suppose. The girls could spot the FNG and the attention was rather flattering. Someone said there were 6 or 7 floors, tonight only the first floor was open. The snack bar and the restaurant. The snack bar was dark as fuck, I mean bottom of the abyss staring back at you dark. Sat outside on the patio smoking my Cuban trying hard to enjoy my "martini. " Specifically requested "shaken, not stirred" . " It rained for a minute but I was sitting at a sheltered patio table for four with three empty chairs. The hits kept rolling in, talked for few, they'd give me kiss and leave. What was cool was they were not all hard sell desperate, this was refreshing. As I've been some places where these chicks are like piranha with the scent of fresh meat in the agua.
Left around 0200 h stole a play from the Rovnak playbook, went to Casarao with visions of Scandallo dancing in my head. Interesting note on the cab ride, the cabbie entered the time I got in and the time I got out of his cab in a sheet of paper clearly marked Scandallo. Figured he probably gets some incentive from management for dropping guys off there. Good to know if you're ever on a jam with the Policia Civil and need an alibi (sorry, wearing my lawyer hat). Checking my horario for the next time I have a free day with no clients and will certainly swing back by. Didn't get any phone numbers, cell battery was dead.
One more thing, what up with these guys who bring their GFs to this place. Just like people who pay extra cash to wipe their ass with Charmin and it's twice the price of regular shit paper. I just don't get it!
Member #4732
02-04-17, 13:06
My logic was as you consume these items are deducted from your consumacao, once it's exhausted, the charges begin to accrue. Not on this fucking planet! Their methods, your consumaco is added to your tab and then deducted.In my experience "entrada com consumacao" is always the same thing. You owe the house the value of the entrada no matter what. If the entrada was 150, you owe them at least 150. If you consume nothing, you pay them 150. If you consume anything < 150 you still owe them 150. If you consume more then 150, you owe them the value of what you consumed.
The "savings" of the consumacao is relative to places that charge an entrada without consumacao. In your case if you had consumed the same amount at a place where the entrada was 150 without consumacao, you would have paid 150 (entrada) + 340 (what you consumed) = 490.
Hope that helps.
Member #4732
02-04-17, 15:37
but in Miami there's a few places you can get a pick from 100 girls but probably not better than Scandallo. Maybe tootsie's is pretty close when it comes to talent and variety.And the girls are all available for full service? Otherwise I don't consider the comparison valid.
And the girls are all available for full service? Otherwise I don't consider the comparison valid.Haven't been to Miami for other than a flight change in about 20 yrs, but aren't hookers illegal there?
Jimmy Boy 99
02-05-17, 02:06
In my experience "entrada com consumacao" is always the same thing. You owe the house the value of the entrada no matter what. If the entrada was 150, you owe them at least 150. If you consume nothing, you pay them 150. If you consume anything < 150 you still owe them 150. If you consume more then 150, you owe them the value of what you consumed.
The "savings" of the consumacao is relative to places that charge an entrada without consumacao. In your case if you had consumed the same amount at a place where the entrada was 150 without consumacao, you would have paid 150 (entrada) + 340 (what you consumed) = 490.
Hope that helps.He paid 150 entrada that he thought was for consumacao. He consumed 350, of which 150 should have been covered by the entrada. Instead they charged him 350 for the consumacao, so basically they charge 150 to enter plus consumacao. Adding the 150 entrada to the bill and then deducting it from the bill is the equivalent of getting no consumacao for your 150 paid entrada.
He paid 150 entrada that he thought was for consumacao. He consumed 350, of which 150 should have been covered by the entrada. Instead they charged him 350 for the consumacao, so basically they charge 150 to enter plus consumacao. Adding the 150 entrada to the bill and then deducting it from the bill is the equivalent of getting no consumacao for your 150 paid entrada.Exactly what I said!
He paid 150 entrada that he thought was for consumacao. He consumed 350, of which 150 should have been covered by the entrada. Instead they charged him 350 for the consumacao, so basically they charge 150 to enter plus consumacao. Adding the 150 entrada to the bill and then deducting it from the bill is the equivalent of getting no consumacao for your 150 paid entrada.Exactly!
He got screwed, and not in the good way, LOL.
Member #4732
02-05-17, 14:22
Haven't been to Miami for other than a flight change in about 20 yrs, but aren't hookers illegal there?Exactly, that is why I consider the comparison absurd.
Member #4732
02-05-17, 14:32
He paid 150 entrada that he thought was for consumacao. He consumed 350, of which 150 should have been covered by the entrada. Instead they charged him 350 for the consumacao, so basically they charge 150 to enter plus consumacao. Adding the 150 entrada to the bill and then deducting it from the bill is the equivalent of getting no consumacao for your 150 paid entrada.Hold on. I did not initially read his post as indicating that he paid the 150 entrada upon arrival. And then paid 350 at exit. Lets ask him to clarify, thus totaling 500. If so, then indeed he was clearly ripped off (assuming the entrada was advertised as with consumacao, which is the case before 19:00).
I read him as complaining that he paid nothing on entrance, assumed he had 150 in credit, racked up 350 in consumption, was charged 350 upon exit, but was chagrined be / see he expected to pay only 200. I assumed this be / see when I went they did not ask for any money up front upon arrival. Just presented my identification and received the "comanda", the card to present to waiters, that tracks purchases. My only payment was made at exit.
Kcrl01 can you clarify what actually happened?
Exactly!
He got screwed, and not in the good way, LOL.That's exactly what I said!
On the other hand, Casarao has a separate entrada and consumacao. Entrada is Brl $20,00 which includes a Brl $10,00 credit, after that Brl $10,00 credit is exhausted, charges accrue. Consumacao is Brl $30,00, which is a true "consumacao" of Brl $30,00 credit toward consumption, after you've exhausted Brl $30,00, charges accrue. This was what I was expecting at Scandallo, but did not get.
In the States Scandallo would be held accountable to charges of false advertising, misrepresentation and fraud as they are pulling a classic 'bait and' switch. " Also, I noticed they asked if it was my first time there before the cadastar of my ID. Thinking now this was not so much to find me in their system, but more to identify me as a FNG.
Now I'm understanding why they call it Scandallo!
Which kinda' leads me to my next gripe about Brasilieros sales & marketing techniques. When I shop at the Extra, before you pay your grocery bill they always ask, "Is there anything else you need, do you need to pay for parking, would you like to re-charge your fone credits," the little words above my head are saying, "If needed to do any of that shit don't you think I'd told you, give me my Goddamn change!
Member #4732
02-05-17, 16:49
OT request. I really prefer Lifestyle condoms, cannot buy them in Brazil. If anyone is visiting SP in next few months can bring me some (details can be discussed in PM) I will give you some personal assistance getting to know SP. PM me.
Member #4732
02-05-17, 19:59
That's exactly what I said!
On the other hand, Casarao has a separate entrada and consumacao. Entrada is Brl $20,00 which includes a Brl $10,00 credit, after that Brl $10,00 credit is exhausted, charges accrue. Consumacao is Brl $30,00, which is a true "consumacao" of Brl $30,00 credit toward consumption, after you've exhausted Brl $30,00, charges accrue. This was what I was expecting at Scandallo, but did not get.Sorry to belabor the point but you paid 150 upon arrival? At Casarao you pay the 30 or 20 upon entering. At Scandalo, I do not recall paying anything upon entering. I just recall presenting my ID and receiving the tracking card. If you truly paid 150 up front, then I don't see how they did not subtract that from your 350 at the end. Honestly, they are not Romanza, which is known to be predatory. Scandalo does not need to be predatory as their prices are so high already.
I can understand why you would be irate, but more than than I cannot understand how they denied your claim at checkout. What exactly did they say? Did they claim you had not paid the 150 upon entering or did they claim that the 150 did not include consumacao? I feel there must be some detail missing because this is too open and shut as it stands right now. With all the people at checkout I can't believe that some manager would not have stepped in and easily resolved this.
Hold on. I did not initially read his post as indicating that he paid the 150 entrada upon arrival. And then paid 350 at exit. Lets ask him to clarify, thus totaling 500. If so, then indeed he was clearly ripped off (assuming the entrada was advertised as with consumacao, which is the case before 19:00).
I read him as complaining that he paid nothing on entrance, assumed he had 150 in credit, racked up 350 in consumption, was charged 350 upon exit, but was chagrined be / see he expected to pay only 200. I assumed this be / see when I went they did not ask for any money up front upon arrival. Just presented my identification and received the "comanda", the card to present to waiters, that tracks purchases. My only payment was made at exit.
Kcrl01 can you clarify what actually happened?This is what happened:
Finally got to Scandallo last night. Got there at around 1845 h paid the Brl $ 150,00 consumacao. After 1900 h it's Brl $220. Had the house sushi at Brl $65, a Bud at Brl $35, a "dry" martini at Brl $ 70,00 and a MonteCristo #2 ring at Brl $170,00. Was taken aback when I had to cash out at Brl $350,00 when I left. According to my calculations my bill should have been Brl $ 200. My logic was as you consume these items are deducted from your consumacao, once it's exhausted, the charges begin to accrue. Not on this fucking planet! Their methods, your consumaco is added to your tab and then deducted. Brasiliero accounting methods, if the girls don't fuck you the house is guaranteed to. IMHO the Brl $ 150,00 consumacao is only a savings if you bounce against the marginal cost incurred by the Brl $220,00 ingresso and consumacao after 1900 h. IMHO, curious as to feedback on this issue. Argued with cashier chick to no avail got weird looks from people standing close by. Always happens when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me!
Clearly they with the Gringo Tax or rip off the FNG. The place is no better than alley way clip joint! IMHO.
Larry David
02-06-17, 05:43
I've never paid upon entry. At entry, I get the tracking card no money required. Never encountered a request for money upon entry. The only time I ever paid was upon leaving. The cashier is downstairs next to the elevator, or upstairs for a room. If you pay exit fee for a girl, that you will pay to a cashier to the left of the entry registration.
Kcrl01, it sounds like you unwittingly gave a tip to the front desk. Unlike Casarao, Scandallo doesn't collect the entrada upfront.
I've never paid upon entry. At entry, I get the tracking card no money required. Never encountered a request for money upon entry. The only time I ever paid was upon leaving. The cashier is downstairs next to the elevator, or upstairs for a room. If you pay exit fee for a girl, that you will pay to a cashier to the left of the entry registration.
Kcrl01, it sounds like you unwittingly gave a tip to the front desk. Unlike Casarao, Scandallo doesn't collect the entrada upfront.Never said I paid at the front desk, paid at the second floor on the way out! I said, "I paid the Brl $150,00, they don't collect cash on the first floor!
Member #4732
02-06-17, 19:37
Never said I paid at the front desk, paid at the second floor on the way out! I said, "I paid the Brl $150,00, they don't collect cash on the first floor!With all respect you originally wrote "IMHO, curious as to feedback on this issue." But then you seem to be aggravated with those of us that ask for clarification. In my case, I asked for clarification and you just repeated what I had read the first time. In Larry's case, you call his reading comprehension into question. Those responses do not seem to be consistent with a good faith request for feedback.
Judging by the variety of responses there is sufficient ambiguity in your original report to cause those of us reading it to draw different conclusions. If the follow up q's are too aggravating then, fine, lets just stop the conversation. For my part, I am still confused about 2 things:
- how much you paid in total. Was it 150 + 350 = 500, or was it just 350?
- what was the position of the Scandalo staff in response to your complaint?
This is what happened:
Finally got to Scandallo last night. Got there at around 1845 h paid the Brl $ 150,00 consumacao. After 1900 h it's Brl $220. Had the house sushi at Brl $65, a Bud at Brl $35, a "dry" martini at Brl $ 70,00 and a MonteCristo #2 ring at Brl $170,00. Was taken aback when I had to cash out at Brl $350,00 when I left. According to my calculations my bill should have been Brl $ 200. My logic was as you consume these items are deducted from your consumacao, once it's exhausted, the charges begin to accrue. cl
Never said I paid at the front desk, paid at the second floor on the way out! I said, "I paid the Brl $150,00, they don't collect cash on the first floor!Wow, you talk in circles amigo.
You either paid the Brl 150 going in or you didn't.
If you didn't pay going in, as your original post alludes to, then you were charged correctly on the way out.
Wow, you talk in circles amigo.
You either paid the Brl 150 going in or you didn't.
If you didn't pay going in, as your original post alludes to, then you were charged correctly on the way out.If you've ever been there you don't pay anything until you leave!
With all respect you originally wrote "IMHO, curious as to feedback on this issue." But then you seem to be aggravated with those of us that ask for clarification. In my case, I asked for clarification and you just repeated what I had read the first time. In Larry's case, you call his reading comprehension into question. Those responses do not seem to be consistent with a good faith request for feedback.
Judging by the variety of responses there is sufficient ambiguity in your original report to cause those of us reading it to draw different conclusions. If the follow up q's are too aggravating then, fine, lets just stop the conversation. For my part, I am still confused about 2 things:
- how much you paid in total. Was it 150 + 350 = 500, or was it just 350?
- what was the position of the Scandalo staff in response to your complaint?Brl $350,00.
Larry David
02-07-17, 04:25
Brl $350,00.So then you didn't pay a gringo tax, you just paid the Scandallo pricing.
For the who are confused, if you arrive before 19 h, the minimum fee is $R150. It is consumable. If you consume more than that, you pay only for consumption. No entry fee. Pay as you leave.
If you arrive after 19 h, the minimum is 220. Only 150 is consumable. So if you spend 350, be prepared to cough up another 70.
Scandallo also has a free shuttle that will pick you up if at least two of you are going.
Casarao has an entry fee of $R20 or 30. Your choice. You can use the full amount for consumption. If you exceed the 20 or 30, you pay the difference when leaving.
(Trigger warning: this post requires math and reading comprehension.).
Jimmy Boy 99
02-07-17, 05:59
Brl $350,00.Having never been to Scandalo, I was one of those who thought you paid 150 to enter and then another 350 when you left. If you consumed 350 and paid 350, where is the rip-off? Did you think that 150 consumacao means the first 150 is free of charge?
The place is no better than alley way clip joint!As soon as something happens that a monger doesn't like, he wants to start go calling a place a "clip joint". Scandallo is not a clip joint because it's expensive or just because you don't like it or think that something happened that should not have. I don't know what went down with you, but I attended the place twice and had no problems with properly settling my tab upon leaving. The consumption charge was properly applied to my total bill based on what food and drink I ordered in the club for myself and the girls. I would happily go to Scandallo again to have sexual access to such a beautiful collection of women.
If you've ever been there you don't pay anything until you leave!Your original post led almost all, if not all of us to believe that somehow you paid 150 reais upon entering.
Whatever, I really don't care about this anymore.
It seems as though they charged you exactly what they should have, so case closed.
Peace.
Member #4732
02-08-17, 14:36
I have been to Casarao a few times lately, mostly collect numbers or do the full hour (room cost 80). But I am frustrated by the lack of clarity on the shorter time option. All girls quote 2 prices, either half hour and hour, or 40 minutes and hour. This is logically inconsistent. I am pretty sure the house only offers 2 room rentals. The full hour for 80 and a shorter time for 40. But I cannot get a straight answer whether the shorter time (room 40) is for 30 or 40 minutes. This is really a big deal to me, because IMO 30 minutes is usually too short (what with showering before and after) and 40 minutes is pretty good. I asked the girls to clarify the discrepancy. Some say, the room rental is 30 minutes but they can finesse an extra 10 minutes by ignoring the house ringing the bell at 30. Some say, the rental really is for 40 but the house gives a warning at 30 to start cleaning up. Some say, its 30 minutes and that is it. Does anyone know the definitive answer?
Can someone explain to me what the difference between a clinica, a termae and a prive is? Thank you.
Member #4732
02-10-17, 13:57
Can someone explain to me what the difference between a clinica, a termae and a prive is? Thank you.Clinica - "Brazilian massage parlor" - daytime "business", reception, choose from lineup (or book) of "massagistas". Depending on the place they offer massage only (therapeutic), massage + hand job (final), massage + sex, or just sex.
Prive - "Brazilian bordello" - daytime or night (depends), usually house or apartment with multiple rooms. Choose from lineup. Go to room. Sex.
Termas / boate. Night club atmosphere, pay entrance, mingle, choose girl, pay for her to leave with you, or pay to use room on premise.
HungryStud101
02-11-17, 20:05
As soon as something happens that a monger doesn't like, he wants to start go calling a place a "clip joint". Scandallo is not a clip joint because it's expensive or just because you don't like it or think that something happened that should not have. I don't know what went down with you, but I attended the place twice and had no problems with properly settling my tab upon leaving. The consumption charge was properly applied to my total bill based on what food and drink I ordered in the club for myself and the girls. I would happily go to Scandallo again to have sexual access to such a beautiful collection of women.Yes, in fact I remember there was this guy bad mouthing my favorite privy/clinica, Brooklyn just a few months ago, LOL.
Larry David
02-12-17, 01:16
Yes, in fact I remember there was this guy bad mouthing my favorite privy/clinica, Brooklyn just a few months ago, LOL.Well, to be fair, the one time I went to Brooklyn it was nothing but horse ass. Like pony ass and above. Tangara is my favorite for hanging out and talking with the girls, but Miruna has air and sex furniture in the rooms.
Have anyone been to Chanes 57 since they started calling it a clinica, instead of a boate? If they no longer have an entry fee, it could be a decent place to relax and have fun. Except then you have to go to the noisy part of moema.
Yes, in fact I remember there was this guy bad mouthing my favorite privy/clinica, Brooklyn just a few months ago, LOL.Yeah, but "this guy" never called it a "clip joint", which it isn't. It's fair for grown men to disagree as we all have different tastes and likes and dislikes. But, we should be fair and balanced in our assessments, and to start calling a place a clip joint just because you don't like it, think it's too expensive, or "think" you got ripped off is neither fair nor balanced. That's going too far, which I did not do with regard to Brooklin. Do I think Brooklin was weak on talent and a little shabby when I went there? Yes I do. Absolutely! But, that doesn't make it a clip joint. Again, it is not. Compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges please.
Your original post led almost all, if not all of us to believe that somehow you paid 150 reais upon entering.
Whatever, I really don't care about this anymore.
It seems as though they charged you exactly what they should have, so case closed.
Peace.Sorry you obviously were absent that when your GED Program covered deductive reasoning. The point I made was Scandallo's consumacao is not in fact a true consumacao. Merely a bait and' switch cover charge. [Deleted by Admin]
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Yeah, but "this guy" never called it a "clip joint", which it isn't. It's fair for grown men to disagree as we all have different tastes and likes and dislikes. But, we should be fair and balanced in our assessments, and to start calling a place a clip joint just because you don't like it, think it's too expensive, or "think" you got ripped off is neither fair nor balanced. That's going too far, which I did not do with regard to Brooklin. Do I think Brooklin was weak on talent and a little shabby when I went there? Yes I do. Absolutely! But, that doesn't make it a clip joint. Again, it is not. Compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges please.Scandallo's a total clip joint. Reminds of a place in Subic Bay, you'd pick out a babe in the bar, take her back to the room, she'd excuse herself to take a shower and a different babe would step out of the shower. You couldn't file a complaint with the SP because the place was off limits. Or the chick would ask you to buy her a Coke and you'd get a bar tab for US $ 75,00. The place is a total rip-off, continue to drop yo cash there!
Scandallo's a total clip joint. Reminds of a place in Subic Bay, you'd pick out a babe in the bar, take her back to the room, she'd excuse herself to take a shower and a different babe would step out of the shower. You couldn't file a complaint with the SP because the place was off limits. Or the chick would ask you to buy her a Coke and you'd get a bar tab for US $ 75,00.First of all, the quote of mine that you used in your post was about the clinica Brooklin and not Scandallo. Second, thanks for your permission, but I don't need that to spend my money how I please. You know, it was from guys like you that I learned the valuable lesson years ago of never, ever making a decision whether or not to go monger in a place for the first time based on the photos of the girl's that somebody else took. Looking at yours (and those of others), I was convinced that there were no good-looking girls in Rio hahaha! Went down there anyway and was stunned at what I saw! All those good-looking women and just shaking my head at why guys would travel all that way to drop bank on so many fuglies! Taste! Some guys have it, and some don't. And you don't acquire it just because you've lived in a place for decades. That may mean you know the place inside out, but that doesn't rule out that one can still be a cheap bastard with no taste!
JakePeacock
02-13-17, 13:07
Seen a lot about Tangara, what is the address? (searched a bit came up with nada).
Thanks!
Scandallo's a total clip joint. Reminds of a place in Subic Bay, you'd pick out a babe in the bar, take her back to the room, she'd excuse herself to take a shower and a different babe would step out of the shower. You couldn't file a complaint with the SP because the place was off limits. Or the chick would ask you to buy her a Coke and you'd get a bar tab for US $ 75,00. The place is a total rip-off, continue to drop yo cash there, because I don't give a flying fuck!Scandallo has done nothing you mention to me or any one I know that has been to the club.
Scandallo has done nothing you mention to me or any one I know that has been to the club.Ditto. Have always enjoyed my time there and will be back in a few weeks.
Paulistinha
02-14-17, 16:09
Rua Tangará, 200.
Seen a lot about Tangara, what is the address? (searched a bit came up with nada).
Thanks!
HungryStud101
02-15-17, 06:40
First of all, the quote of mine that you used in your post was about the clinica Brooklin and not Scandallo. Second, thanks for your permission, but I don't need that to spend my money how I please. You know, it was from guys like you that I learned the valuable lesson years ago of never, ever making a decision whether or not to go monger in a place for the first time based on the photos of the girl's that somebody else took. Looking at yours (and those of others), I was convinced that there were no good-looking girls in Rio hahaha! Went down there anyway and was stunned at what I saw! All those good-looking women and just shaking my head at why guys would travel all that way to drop bank on so many fuglies! Taste! Some guys have it, and some don't. And you don't acquire it just because you've lived in a place for decades. That may mean you know the place inside out, but that doesn't rule out that one can still be a cheap bastard with no taste!You guys are still arguing about this? Look, I love Brooklin. I think you just went at a bad time. I have went when there was more talent there then many of the Rio terma visits I have made. Friends of mine that are putarios from Sao Paulo have told me that Brooklin is a better deal. But, friends of mine that are not big time hobbyists but business men that partake in the hobby less frequently have recommended Scandallo's. I like the night life and I like to see a girl all decked out to the 9's and I will pay a premium for this. I will have to try Scandelo's next visit.
AltoBomGosto
02-15-17, 21:21
Just arrived from Tangara, place was empty of Johns and full of young girls.
Went with Diana, a 19 yo brunette. Very recomended.
ABG.
P.S. Tangara now has A/Conditioners at the reception and in some rooms.
Sargent 50
02-16-17, 04:40
I am not trying to argue with you as much as present a different perspective.
Lets look at those points. Yes, the high end Sao Paulo clubs are expensive, but so are the Rio high end clubs. SP has low, mid and high clubs, as does Rio. So you choose your price range in both places.
Lets take the high end clubs: If you go to a high end club in either place you are looking to spend 600 or more, all in, in either place. Some of the SP clubs are marginally more expensive, but at that level it becomes marginal cost. You are paying the premium to mingle and have a lot of choice. The top SP clubs are at least twice the size of the Rio clubs and have twice as many girls to choose, so the odds are higher of finding a few more top girls to choose from, no matter what your taste. To your point about the separation of cost. Entrada, programa and room. Some Rio clubs also separate the costs that way. But the separation of cost is just bookkeeping difference. Its the all in cost that matters. When you look at the entrada cost, you have to consider whether it includes "consumacao" meaning your entrance includes a credit for some or all of the cost of the entrance to put toward food or drink. Of the Rio clubs only Cancun does this. The other Rio clubs may have lower entrance but they don't offer consumacao..With that being said would it be worth it for me to do a Sunday and Monday night in SP?
Member #4732
02-16-17, 16:53
With that being said would it be worth it for me to do a Sunday and Monday night in SP?Best nights for all boates are Tues-Wed-Thurs.
Saturday is good at Casarao not elsewhere.
Sunday shut everywhere except 3 daytime clinicas and casarao (but not sure if action level there).
Monday slow at all clubs.
So I would not recommend a visit that was exclusively Sun-Mon. You will see it at its worst. My point that there is action everyday stands but it applies more to folks that stay a week. They always have options. But it does not mean everyday has the same level and the same options.
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Hi guys,
I think this is my first FR in SP forum as I was in Dubai and now I am in SP, so this was the first encounter I had yesterday which I will pen it down, I went too bamboa yesterday around 10.30 and there were around 20 to 25 girls at that place, Ordered A Chivas bottle and and was sitting and enjoying my drink, the same moment there were two ladies staring at me, as I am an Indian and for them I am new customer who does not know anything, so one lady came to me and sat beside me and starting talking nice things. She would be in her 30's and was not much of my type, so gently told her that she can come later I am waiting for my friend who will join me, and she left, After some time when I was down by 4 shots of Chivas, it started its work and and I was enjoying the click of it.
Because I cannot choose girl unless and until I am drunk so now my eyes were moving like a lusty wolf who was searching for its prey, but still after a lot of search even I was not able to point something out.
Mean time my friend arrived and we again started drinking and then there 2 girls came and sat besides us, normal talks and she was just trying her best to please me up by saying that she will do massage, she will take care or me and all the repetitive things which these girls are expert at, but still I was waiting for someone more good to come, and I refused their proposal and then started hunting again. Mean time my friend had already chosen an round ass lady and he goes with him. And I am alone now and I see a very sexy blonde girl who was in her 20's and my eyes stopped at her. We had some eye contact and she came and sat beside me. Her name was A. And we talked (I hardly speak Portuguese and she hardly understood English) thanks to google translator for doing the whole work. I wanted to take her to my apartment, and she said that she doesn't lives in Sao Paulo and cannot go to apartment. And I said that I will not prefer to take you to hotel, and she left, but my mind was still wanting her, but in my heart I was asking that this girl is having so much of attitude, its good that she is gone, and I was one more drink down, and I am seeing Ms a sitting with some one and negotiating the prices and by the moment after that drink is inside, its all the whisky is ruling me and my heart had no control over my mind, and I decided to take her to the room, paid her 500 and 165 for the room, and we went inside, She started with a strip dance which was amazing and then she started to rub her ass over my plunge and I was enjoying each and every part, she told me to get undressed and I followed like she was in full control and I was obeying like a small kid, and then she turned to 69 and started sucking my tool, and I want to tell you friends, that it was a covered BJ, but first time in my life I was feeling that it was without a condom, and then we went to cow girl positions and I asked her to bring down her face to me so that I can kiss, and here the all problem started, she said no then I said OK lets do doggy and she refused and then I said that OK suck it again and she said she can't and I got pissed off took my tool out, gave her clothes back and came out, over all was not a good experience.
But still I have shared.
HungryStud101
02-22-17, 17:13
I am sorry to hear this. Take that same money and go to a Privy called Brooklyn Massagem and get two four hand massages and sit back and drink free cervejas while you pick the girls. If the first dupla isn't interactive enough sit around and recharge your batteries sipping free beer and then have another dupla (3 sum). Choose from up to 18 girls I counted one day. They will even massage you afterwards. 4 for the price of 1 ripoff.
I am very sorry to hear that you had a bad time.
Hi guys,
Mean time my friend arrived and we again started drinking and then there 2 girls came and sat besides us, normal talks and she was just trying her best to please me up by saying that she will do massage, she will take care or me and all the repetitive things which these girls are expert at, but still I was waiting for someone more good to come, and I refused their proposal and then started hunting again. Mean time my friend had already chosen an round ass lady and he goes with him. And I am alone now and I see a very sexy blonde girl who was in her 20's and my eyes stopped at her. We had some eye contact and she came and sat beside me. Her name was A. And we talked (I hardly speak Portuguese and she hardly understood English) thanks to google translator for doing the whole work. I wanted to take her to my apartment, and she said that she doesn't lives in Sao Paulo and cannot go to apartment. And I said that I will not prefer to take you to hotel, and she left, but my mind was still wanting her, but in my heart I was asking that this girl is having so much of attitude, its good that she is gone, and I was one more drink down, and I am seeing Ms a sitting with some one and negotiating the prices and by the moment after that drink is inside, its all the whisky is ruling me and my heart had no control over my mind, and I decided to take her to the room, paid her 500 and 165 for the room, and we went inside, She started with a strip dance which was amazing and then she started to rub her ass over my plunge and I was enjoying each and every part, she told me to get undressed and I followed like she was in full control and I was obeying like a small kid, and then she turned to 69 and started sucking my tool, and I want to tell you friends, that it was a covered BJ, but first time in my life I was feeling that it was without a condom, and then we went to cow girl positions and I asked her to bring down her face to me so that I can kiss, and here the all problem started, she said no then I said OK lets do doggy and she refused and then I said that OK suck it again and she said she can't and I got pissed off took my tool out, gave her clothes back and came out, over all was not a good experience.
But still I have shared.
AltoBomGosto
02-24-17, 10:01
Saturday there wll be a Carnaval party, girls in costumes, girls doing strip teases and more.
Tangara will be open every day during Carnaval. Now the new rooms have air conditioning.
Saturday there wll be a Carnaval party, girls in costumes, girls doing strip teases and more.
Tangara will be open every day during Carnaval. Now the new rooms have air conditioning.Going to check out Tangara today. Any other suggestions?
Going to check out Tangara today. Any other suggestions?Brooklin, Kin Center, Enjoy, Mirunas, Morango.
HighFlyer80
02-25-17, 10:16
Hi,
Will be in SP for a meeting on the 27th of February.
Are there any parties in the privees or the clinicas?
Cheers.
AltoBomGosto
02-25-17, 11:10
Saturday there wll be a Carnaval party, girls in costumes, girls doing strip teases and more.
Tangara will be open every day during Carnaval. Now the new rooms have air conditioning.Tangara will be closed next Tuesday.
HungryStud101
02-26-17, 17:01
Take that same money and go to a Privy called Brooklyn Massagem and get two four hand massages and sit back and drink free cervejas while you pick the girls. If the first dupla isn't interactive enough sit around and recharge your batteries sipping free beer and then have another dupla (3 sum). Choose from up to 18 girls I counted one day. They will even massage you afterwards. 4 for the price of 1 ripoff.
.Have 2 interactive duplas and take the 75 Reais and have dinner. After.
AltoBomGosto
02-27-17, 14:08
Hi,
Will be in SP for a meeting on the 27th of February.
Are there any parties in the privees or the clinicas?
Cheers.No one to my knowlege. Tangará and VW will be open today.
Gannaton48
02-27-17, 14:45
HI!
Have'nt been to SP since 6 years but will be there shortly. Brtoehrs, can you tell me where (clincias, casas massagem) I can be sure to get BBBJ with CIM? Thanks, will report after my stay!
Hey Stud,
Thanks for your advice, next time will definitely follow your advice.
Shizzle Master
02-28-17, 02:46
Heading to Sao Paulo for the first time in a few weeks. I've read good things. Some of the venues on here come up multiple times in Google. Where are the best places with addresses / areas / etc?
Can anyone recommend a guide? Or are any of you in Sao Paulo and willing to be one?
I'm either staying near the Airport or on Ave Augusta. Any recommendations for that as well? I've seen a few "girl friendly hotels" online but not sure how reliable they are.
AltoBomGosto
02-28-17, 03:30
HI!
Have'nt been to SP since 6 years but will be there shortly. Brtoehrs, can you tell me where (clincias, casas massagem) I can be sure to get BBBJ with CIM? Thanks, will report after my stay!Tangara will be the best place.
AltoBomGosto
02-28-17, 03:31
Heading to Sao Paulo for the first time in a few weeks. I've read good things. Some of the venues on here come up multiple times in Google. Where are the best places with addresses / areas / etc?
Can anyone recommend a guide? Or are any of you in Sao Paulo and willing to be one?
I'm either staying near the Airport or on Ave Augusta. Any recommendations for that as well? I've seen a few "girl friendly hotels" online but not sure how reliable they are.PM me for details.
AltoBomGosto
02-28-17, 03:33
Tangara will be closed but Vani's Way, Rua Dom Antonio Galvão 266, will be open tomorrow.
Xkalibur80
02-28-17, 04:30
Will be in SP from March 16 to 19. Looking forward to the recos by all the experts. PM me if you will be in town.
AltoBomGosto
02-28-17, 10:37
TD with Leide Pimenta, gorgeous afro brasilian, has her own flat in Moema.
http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhante/leidy_pimenta
TD with Leide Pimenta, gorgeous afro brasilian, has her own flat in Moema.
http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhante/leidy_pimentaI checked out the website all the girls are real? Or some use fake pics?
What about this one? http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhante/milla_kornicoffa.
AltoBomGosto
02-28-17, 16:55
I checked out the website all the girls are real? Or some use fake pics?
What about this one? http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhante/milla_kornicoffa.I did a TD with her, Fantastic BBBJ and CIM, now she has her own flat in Moema. The others one I don't know.
Club Model is one of the most respected website, it's associated with GP Guia. I never heared about fake pics. There.
AltoBomGosto
02-28-17, 17:01
Tangara will be closed but Vani's Way, Rua Dom Antonio Galvo 266, will be open tomorrow.I'm going to Vani's Way now.
I was told there are some nice girls there now.
Rua Dom Antonio Galvão 266.
Jimmy Boy 99
02-28-17, 22:56
I did a TD with her, Fantastic BBBJ and CIM, now she has her own flat in Moema. The others one I don't know.
Club Model is one of the most respected website, it's associated with GP Guia. I never heared about fake pics. There.How long was the session and how much did it cost? Is this the usual rate for Club Model girls?
AltoBomGosto
02-28-17, 23:10
How long was the session and how much did it cost? Is this the usual rate for Club Model girls?300 reais / 1 hour.
Jimmy Boy 99
02-28-17, 23:21
300 reais / 1 hour.OK. Thanks.
I'm going to Vani's Way now.
I was told there are some nice girls there now.
Rua Dom Antonio Galvo 266.I put that address into google maps and it doesn't really show much.
I'm currently in Sao Paulo. Wouldn't mind meeting up. It's a big city. Kinda hard to get a handle on this place at first.
Jimmy Boy 99
03-01-17, 04:20
I put that address into google maps and it doesn't really show much.
I'm currently in Sao Paulo. Wouldn't mind meeting up. It's a big city. Kinda hard to get a handle on this place at first.When I put the address in maps. google.com, it shows exactly where Vani's Way is. An Uber ride to it should cost no more than 10-15 reais from Moema and neighborhoods in between.
AltoBomGosto
03-01-17, 09:48
When I put the address in maps. google.com, it shows exactly where Vani's Way is. An Uber ride to it should cost no more than 10-15 reais from Moema and neighborhoods in between.Went there yesterday afternoon, TD with Raissa, a blonde 24 YO garota. Excellent DFK, vert good vaginal, BBBJ and CIM.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
03-01-17, 09:51
When I put the address in maps. google.com, it shows exactly where Vani's Way is. An Uber ride to it should cost no more than 10-15 reais from Moema and neighborhoods in between.Waze also will take you there. If you are in the Paulista area take metro blue line towards Vila Prudente, exit estacao Santos Imigrantes and take a cab, 10 reais.
ABG.
I put that address into google maps and it doesn't really show much.
I'm currently in Sao Paulo. Wouldn't mind meeting up. It's a big city. Kinda hard to get a handle on this place at first.Try this. May help you with logistics. https://goo.gl/maps/D9VGPmSViAx.
I put that address into google maps and it doesn't really show much.Could it be the missing a. It's Galvao.
AltoBomGosto
03-01-17, 14:01
Try this. May help you with logistics. https://goo.gl/maps/D9VGPmSViAx.I did not find Vaní's Way on this map. Better use Waze, type the adress in and you're done!
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
03-01-17, 14:02
Went there yesterday afternoon, TD with Raissa, a blonde 24 YO garota. Excellent DFK, vert good vaginal, BBBJ and CIM.
ABG.Today she is at Tangara.
I did not find Van's Way on this map. Better use Waze, type the adress in and you're done!
ABG.Privee Vani's Way is absolutely on the map! I just looked at it and found it on there. I used Nordico's map to help me go there. Unfortunately, during the time of my visit, I would say I found the most unattractive collection of women there as compared to every last single one of the other places I visited, which were many! Was bad enough according to my personal tastes that I would not return even once to give it a second chance. Out of the way with weak talent is what I found.
Hi guys,
Can someone recommend me a girl from Club Model that knows English?
Thanks.
Hi,
Planning my next trip. Does anyone know the actual 1 HR and dupla prices and possible promotions in,
- Tangara.
- Miruna's.
- Enjoy Spa.
- Brooklin.
Thanks, Nordico.
Shizzle Master
03-07-17, 00:59
For the life of me I can't figure out how to send a PM on here. Can you give me another way to contact you? Anyone else have hotel recommendations? Or maybe even like a driver that could show me around?
PM me for details.===============================================
Greetings,
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So I have spent much of the last two weeks looking through this forum in advance of my trip to Sao Paulo at the end of this month. Although I found some information that addresses all of these questions, much of it was very old so I am hoping to throw myself on the mercy of the SP experts on the following topics:
1) Grand Hyatt. Girl Friendly? (Previous thread from a few years ago indicated it was).
2) Money. What is the max daily from ATMs in SP?? (This changes so often that I would like understand the latest).
3) Escorts. I know the experts prefer the clubs--and trust me, if I have time after reading this forum it is full speed ahead to Scandallo's and maybe Bomboa, but are there any recommendations out there for English-speaking escorts? And since I am fantasizing, hot English-speaking MILF escorts?? Yes, I know they are never on time, etc, but my business schedule may only allow play-time during the day. Marcella Leal is looking very delicious with many good reviews, but am wondering if there are any others?
ABG. If you are reading this, I sent you a PM a few days ago and would be happy to work with you on this.
NYC Flyer.
AltoBomGosto
03-07-17, 12:07
Jamille, nice morena, 1,75 m. Tall, GFE, Good BBBJ, excelent doggie, BBBJ again Till CIM.
150 reais = one hour.
Larry David
03-07-17, 15:40
Santander bank ATM will let you take 1,000 Reals every 24 hours.
Forget searching for the elusive English speaking GDP. Google translator on your phone. Download before you go and use it with the GDPs. Best bet for daytime is the clinicas. No hassle, no wait. Get a presentation and pick a girl. Susan and Takumi. Managers at Tangara. Both speak English and can help you choose a girl.
Anybody have any intel on this cub: http://www.novagauguin.com.br.
I searched the forum but didn't see any recent information. Just considering if I should add to my list of clubs to visit on an upcoming trip.
Jimmy Boy 99
03-07-17, 22:51
Jamille, nice morena, 1,75 m. Tall, GFE, Good BBBJ, excelent doggie, BBBJ again Till CIM.
150 reais = one hour.No surcharge for CIM?
AltoBomGosto
03-08-17, 01:28
No surcharge for CIM?I gave her 50 reais as a gift.
Traveller747
03-08-17, 01:55
Today I visited Paola Fogosa, who I found on vivalocal.com . She is not the beauty on the fotos but less attractive, even though she has a sexy body and a nice face. On her profile she claims english knowledge, but that is wrong too.
Apart from that the TD was good. Affectionate DFK, CG, doggy and missionary and she was always willing to cooperate. But 300 is to much for that.
Traveller747
03-08-17, 02:00
Did anyone try the Barao de Limeira 134 or Sao Josao 563? Is it possible and save to go there without portuguese knowledge?
Member #4732
03-08-17, 03:10
Today I visited Paola Fogosa, who I found on vivalocal.com . She is not the beauty on the fotos but less attractive, even though she has a sexy body and a nice face. On her profile she claims english knowledge, but that is wrong too.
Apart from that the TD was good. Affectionate DFK, CG, doggy and missionary and she was always willing to cooperate. But 300 is to much for that.Pretty par for the course with escort ads. I know guys preparing to visit are looking at the escort sites and imagining how fantastic the girls look, and imagining a perfect encounter. But more often than not I would wager calling an escort cold will be an underwhelming experience if you are here for a short time. There are some great escorts out there, but it usually requires reading the local forum reviews, to have any degree of confidence. Even then, others tastes will unlikely correspond to your own. If you have only a few days in SP, IMO, its not worth the opportunity cost of doing something else. Living here, I occasionally take a flyer on an escort, but I approach it as throw away roll of the dice, entering the encounter with low expectations. If it works out well, great if not, no big deal B/ CI don't have time limits. But for visitors who want to maximize their time its "usually" a poor option.
Santander bank ATM will let you take 1,000 Reals every 24 hours.
Forget searching for the elusive English speaking GDP. Google translator on your phone. Download before you go and use it with the GDPs. Best bet for daytime is the clinicas. No hassle, no wait. Get a presentation and pick a girl. Susan and Takumi. Managers at Tangara. Both speak English and can help you choose a girl.Thanks for this Larry, very much appreciate your help here.
Anybody have any intel on this cub: http://www.novagauguin.com.br.
I searched the forum but didn't see any recent information. Just considering if I should add to my list of clubs to visit on an upcoming trip.Been there 5-6 times in a 3 year span. Live pretty close to it but I wouldn't recommend it.
It's cheaper than the most expensive clubs (Scandallo, cafe photo and Bomboa) I think entrance is 120 most of it being consumable and the rooms I think cost around 100. The girls charge around 300.
Half the time I couldn't find anyone I liked to go up but I'm picky.
It is the best boate in the region though. There's no other mid to high tier club in the vicinity so if you can't make the trip to cafe photo or Bomboa which is 20 minutes away I guess it's an OK option.
Shizzle Master
03-09-17, 04:09
Several sites recommend this hotel as girl friendly, but I don't know if they all just copy each other. Anyone have any insight? Mercure Sao Paulo Augusta Hotel, Rua Padre Joao Manuel, 202.
Or any other suggestions for something both upscale and girl friendly? I'm not set on any area of the city.
Sargent 50
03-09-17, 05:00
Where the best action on Friday's?
Best nights for all boates are Tues-Wed-Thurs.
Saturday is good at Casarao not elsewhere.
Sunday shut everywhere except 3 daytime clinicas and casarao (but not sure if action level there).
Monday slow at all clubs.
So I would not recommend a visit that was exclusively Sun-Mon. You will see it at its worst. My point that there is action everyday stands but it applies more to folks that stay a week. They always have options. But it does not mean everyday has the same level and the same options.
Gannaton48
03-09-17, 17:35
Several sites recommend this hotel as girl friendly, but I don't know if they all just copy each other. Anyone have any insight? Mercure Sao Paulo Augusta Hotel, Rua Padre Joao Manuel, 202.
Or any other suggestions for something both upscale and girl friendly? I'm not set on any area of the city.ALthough now 5 years back, I used to stay at Maksoud Plaza, very nice hotel and girl friendly. No reason it would have changed in the meantime.
AltoBomGosto
03-10-17, 11:25
ALthough now 5 years back, I used to stay at Maksoud Plaza, very nice hotel and girl friendly. No reason it would have changed in the meantime.The Renaissence Hotel at Al. Santos is a good alternative.
Several sites recommend this hotel as girl friendly, but I don't know if they all just copy each other. Anyone have any insight? Mercure Sao Paulo Augusta Hotel, Rua Padre Joao Manuel, 202.
Or any other suggestions for something both upscale and girl friendly? I'm not set on any area of the city.Mercure hotels are girl friendly. No charge if they just "visit" you. If they stay overnight they may charge you something. That's the answer I got from the Mercure hotels, when I asked.
Shizzle Master
03-13-17, 13:41
Are there any hotels that effectively double as brothels, or the other way around? Or maybe just a place with a lot of working girls at the bar? Or will they be overpriced?
Also I've got a quick one night stay at the GRU airport en route to my destination. Thinking about booking a girl but also wondering if there are any prices or clinical close by.
Mercure hotels are girl friendly. No charge if they just "visit" you. If they stay overnight they may charge you something. That's the answer I got from the Mercure hotels, when I asked.
Sargent 50
03-14-17, 22:03
Was only there a couple of days I didn't even get to stretch the surface but I stayed in Moema no complaints a lot of restaurants in walking distance, spots short Uber away. My favorite spot currently is Brooklyn. But I hit tanguara 200, Ken or kilt IDK what it's called, enjoy and mirunas. I'll prob head back beginning of may. S / and comparing 4 x 4 to Brooklyn is comparing apples to oranges it's about your preference same goes for comparing SP to Rio. I personally like SP more a lot more options and good food LOL. S / o the wingman that got me started appreciate it bro.
Was only there a couple of days I didn't even get to stretch the surface but I stayed in Moema no complaints a lot of restaurants in walking distance, spots short Uber away. My favorite spot currently is Brooklyn. But I hit tanguara 200, Ken or kilt IDK what it's called, enjoy and mirunas. I'll prob head back beginning of may. S / and comparing 4 x 4 to Brooklyn is comparing apples to oranges it's about your preference same goes for comparing SP to Rio. I personally like SP more a lot more options and good food LOL. S / o the wingman that got me started appreciate it bro.How much did You pay in Brooklin, Tangara, Mirunas and Enjoy Spa?
Thanks,
AltoBomGosto
03-16-17, 10:03
Are there any hotels that effectively double as brothels, or the other way around? Or maybe just a place with a lot of working girls at the bar? Or will they be overpriced?
Also I've got a quick one night stay at the GRU airport en route to my destination. Thinking about booking a girl but also wondering if there are any prices or clinical close by.Hotel Lido has a lounge where you cand meet some GDP.
AltoBomGosto
03-16-17, 10:06
How much did You pay in Brooklin, Tangara, Mirunas and Enjoy Spa?
Thanks,Prices per hour:
Tangara 150 reais.
Brooklin 220 ".
Miruna and Enjoy 240 reais.
It has been a while thar I wasn'nt at Brookin, Miruna and Enjoy, better call to make shure.
ABG.
Long time member and it looks like I will finally make it to Brazil. For a usa citizen to apply for a Brazil visa is complicated. I have applied and 3-4 weeks if all goes well I should be on my way. I have studied the reports and I have a good idea were to I will spend my time mongering but as this is my first time I could use some help on what area to stay. I don't need a high end area but I like outside cafes and things to see while walking. Any suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks.
Xkalibur80
03-17-17, 23:47
Prices per hour:
Tangara 150 reais.
Brooklin 220 ".
Miruna and Enjoy 240 reais.
It has been a while thar I wasn'nt at Brookin, Miruna and Enjoy, better call to make shure.
ABG.Was at Brooklin today and the price is 170 for 30 min and 200 for an hour. Haven't had a chance to visit the other places yet.
This is my first time in SP and has been a blast thus far. Others have already mentioned but Scandallo is at another level. I felt like I died and ended up in heaven. Over 200 girls and from all over Brazil! Most 7+ but as the night progressed, the place started filling with lower quality. Nevertheless, if you have the money to splurge to lay a top notch Brazilian chick, this place is highly recommended.
I will be writing a more detailed report later. We are off to Bamboa tonight with our wingman Rovnak.
Pretty par for the course with escort ads. I know guys preparing to visit are looking at the escort sites and imagining how fantastic the girls look, and imagining a perfect encounter. But more often than not I would wager calling an escort cold will be an underwhelming experience if you are here for a short time. There are some great escorts out there, but it usually requires reading the local forum reviews, to have any degree of confidence. Even then, others tastes will unlikely correspond to your own. If you have only a few days in SP, IMO, its not worth the opportunity cost of doing something else. Living here, I occasionally take a flyer on an escort, but I approach it as throw away roll of the dice, entering the encounter with low expectations. If it works out well, great if not, no big deal B/ CI don't have time limits. But for visitors who want to maximize their time its "usually" a poor option.I'm sorry I disagree. If you put in a tiny bit of time and are a bit clever if you don't speak Portuguese, you can easily find beautiful Brasileiras who meet your tastes and will deliver exactly what you want. You're just not going to be able to look at a catalog of photos and pick a girl on one of the over dozen Sao Paulo escort websites. Some of them are trying to lure you into buying subscriptions and many have fake escorts and / or escorts who left the business years ago. That's pretty much true anywhere in the world. Some of us have written about SP escorts here, but if you aren't going to look back a few months or do a little work you are just flying blind. I've said before many Sao Paulo escorts are posting candid photos not photoshopped on Twitter and also have personal websites with detailed information. You just have to know how to do a search and navigate the internet. Use the gpguia, clubmodel, gpface websites.
For simplicity sake, I will quickly re-recommend a couple diverse looking girls. They all have awesome looks and friendly, accommodating dispositions. You can also look at my previous posts for more info.
Marcela Leal. Tall, mulatto "Barbie", friendly girl, speaks English well, anal, CIM.
Yasmin Piovane. Leggy blonde, no CIM, no anal.
Mayara Alencar. Petite brunette nymph, no CIM, no anal.
Debora Drumond. Petite blonde nymph, CIM, anal.
These girls are natural (as I prefer) and of course all have fantastic Brazilian asses of various sizes. You can find some very busty women with implants very easily.
Generally if you are looking for are $150-200 scores you need to shop the clinicas for something you like. These girls will range are $300-400 for 90 minutes. Mayara runs promotions on Twitter from time to time. If you start negotiating or asking a lot of questions on WhatsApp, you will probably not get far with most of these women. Just tell them when you want to meet them incall or outcall in Portuguese (use a translation device or tip your doorman to text her). It's best if you WhatsApp them a day or two before or early in the day and say you can meet them anytime or morning or afternoon. Don't think girls who look like this are waiting for your call and are available at the precise moment you get out of your business meeting. If they're busy, it might take an hour or two for them to respond. Use your common sense.
Long time member and it looks like I will finally make it to Brazil. For a usa citizen to apply for a Brazil visa is complicated. I have applied and 3-4 weeks if all goes well I should be on my way. I have studied the reports and I have a good idea were to I will spend my time mongering but as this is my first time I could use some help on what area to stay. I don't need a high end area but I like outside cafes and things to see while walking. Any suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks.The easiest in my opinion is to find somewhere just a little way off Avenida Paulista. You can get a reasonable rate just by walking down the hill a hundred yards and the closeness to Paulista means you are close to several metro stations and normal high-end cafes and upmarket conveniences. It's like the 'West End' so-called equivalent of international western cities.
Member #4732
03-18-17, 18:34
I'm sorry I disagree. If you put in a tiny bit of time and are a bit clever if you don't speak Portuguese, you can easily find beautiful Brasileiras who meet your tastes and will deliver exactly what you want. You're just not going to be able to look at a catalog of photos and pick a girl on one of the over dozen Sao Paulo escort websites. Some of them are trying to lure you into buying subscriptions and many have fake escorts and / or escorts who left the business years ago. That's pretty much true anywhere in the world. Some of us have written about SP escorts here, but if you aren't going to look back a few months or do a little work you are just flying blind. I've said before many Sao Paulo escorts are posting candid photos not photoshopped on Twitter and also have personal websites with detailed information. You just have to know how to do a search and navigate the internet. Use the gpguia, clubmodel, gpface websites.
For simplicity sake, I will quickly re-recommend a couple diverse looking girls. They all have awesome looks and friendly, accommodating dispositions. You can also look at my previous posts for more info.
Marcela Leal. Tall, mulatto "Barbie", friendly girl, speaks English well, anal, CIM..Fair points but the key to your advice is that to find the good escorts guys need to do the research. For guys that know how to do that research, fine. But a lot of visitors just are not used to doing that. This forum is not well designed for research of individual girls, and most guys don't have the patience to read the local forums.
The key to my post is "opportunity cost". I am not a penny pincher and I am not basing my advice on the difference be / t 200 (clinica) and 300 (escort). That is not my point at all. My point is that SP is so well stocked with clinicas where you can see "face to face" 20-30 girls that the opportunity cost of rolling the dice with an escort is higher than in other cities. In other cities escorts are the only or best option. People are used to that. I am suggesting that in SP that is not the case. That is not to say there are not good escorts in SP, to each his own.
Member #4732
03-18-17, 22:03
The easiest in my opinion is to find somewhere just a little way off Avenida Paulista. You can get a reasonable rate just by walking down the hill a hundred yards and the closeness to Paulista means you are close to several metro stations and normal high-end cafes and upmarket conveniences. It's like the 'West End' so-called equivalent of international western cities.Jardins is a great area but it depends on your agenda. Imo, nothing beats Moema for easy access to the best clinicas in the city. Both Jardins and Moema have their share of freelancers operating out of their apts, but Moema has a clear advantage in terms of clinicas in Moema / Campo Belo and Brooklin. Distance from Jardins to Moema is not much, but with SP traffic it adds up. In Moema, I can WALK to 8 clinicas. Both Jardins and Moema have good restaurants. Jardins has some streets that are more "commercial" if that is your thing. Moema is a bit more residential with restaurants more distributed. Recent visitors have stayed at the Comfort Ibirapuera and claim its girl friendly. If your agenda is night spots, then Jardins may be better.
Jardins today is closer to metro, Moema metro will open this year, but for mongering the metro does not offer much of an advantage unless your destination is also metro accessible.
Sunset Strip
03-18-17, 23:44
103 Praca Carlos Gomes.
R40, 30 minutes.
Club is still open. However, the new tia is running it like a clip joint now. Drinks for the women r40.30 minutes I the room is actually 15 minutes. BBBJs unless you pay extra.
The level of ignorance is very high. Girls sitting together acting immature. Very bad environment now.
I recommended this place before this new woman took over.
The worst part is you are in Liberdade with all of those fine Asians and this club is full of hood chicks. A let down.
Fair points but the key to your advice is that to find the good escorts guys need to do the research. For guys that know how to do that research, fine. But a lot of visitors just are not used to doing that. This forum is not well designed for research of individual girls, and most guys don't have the patience to read the local forums.
SP is not an easy city to do in any sense without research. It's the biggest city in the southern hemisphere, which means it's enormous. As for the forum, people do generally expect you to do research on it even if it means reading (or skimming through) more than 20 pages. That's the way it goes mostly.
SP has excellent casas and generally can offer a large selection of girls and very good value for money (much more than, say, Rio, where you pay for the hype, the accessibility, the user-friendliness, and beaches). The 'research' needed is firstly identify some on a map, near a Metro is best at first as taxis mount up. Check that they are likely still to be open (addresses change). You need a metro map. Try to avoid rush hours. Then walk in, choose (or say no thank you if nothing takes your fancy), and enjoy. The immensity of SP and the sheer number of girls, and that they change quite often, can mean researching individual girls is not always time-effective. Finally, SP is an amazing city. It just takes a bit of time to get to know. Enjoy!
Member #4732
03-18-17, 23:49
Marcela Leal. Tall, mulatto "Barbie", friendly girl, speaks English well, anal, CIM.
Yasmin Piovane. Leggy blonde, no CIM, no anal.
Mayara Alencar. Petite brunette nymph, no CIM, no anal.
Debora Drumond. Petite blonde nymph, CIM, anal.
These girls are natural (as I prefer) and of course all have fantastic Brazilian asses of various sizes. You can find some very busty women with implants very easily.
Generally if you are looking for are $150-200 scores you need to shop the clinicas for something you like. These girls will range are $300-400 for 90 minutes. Mayara runs promotions on Twitter from time to time. If you start negotiating or asking a lot of questions on WhatsApp, you will probably not get far with most of these women. Just tell them when you want to meet them incall or outcall in Portuguese (use a translation device or tip your doorman to text her). It's best if you WhatsApp them a day or two before or early in the day and say you can meet them anytime or morning or afternoon. Don't think girls who look like this are waiting for your call and are available at the precise moment you get out of your business meeting. If they're busy, it might take an hour or two for them to respond. Use your common sense.Despite our academic disagreement, your specific recommendations are appreciated.
Long time member and it looks like I will finally make it to Brazil.BTW I've just noticed that you ask a lot of questions about different countries but don't seem to give any feedback or reviews of your experiences there. A little contribution in kind occasionally would be appreciated by people you know.
Sorry Jan. But you may be researching the wrong person. I spend 4 months a year traveling and most of the time I'm in south america but within the last 6 months I was in Greece and spain for 2 weeks each with reports from both. People like you that spend so much time researching members post I have to wonder do you really have a life. Take a few minutes looking at my Uruguay and my Paraguay or my Peru or my Columbia or of course my Argentin posts. Oh yes don't forget Ecuador. Find something else to do with your idle time.
Ok Jan I just noticed, after I made my nasty response to your second report, that you first gave a nice and informative response to my question of what area is recommended by members to stay in SP. If I would of looked a little further at other reports I would of not been so nasty with my response. Sorry, your right with all my travels I could make many more reports but I have been burnet a few times for my poor english and grammar. I will do better.
Fair points but the key to your advice is that to find the good escorts guys need to do the research. For guys that know how to do that research, fine. But a lot of visitors just are not used to doing that. This forum is not well designed for research of individual girls, and most guys don't have the patience to read the local forums.
The key to my post is "opportunity cost". I am not a penny pincher and I am not basing my advice on the difference be / t 200 (clinica) and 300 (escort). That is not my point at all. My point is that SP is so well stocked with clinicas where you can see "face to face" 20-30 girls that the opportunity cost of rolling the dice with an escort is higher than in other cities. In other cities escorts are the only or best option. People are used to that. I am suggesting that in SP that is not the case. That is not to say there are not good escorts in SP, to each his own.There's something to be said for all the venues in Sao Paulo clinicas, escorts and boates. All the venues can provide good experiences and all have trade-offs. If someone is just dropping into Sao Paulo and has limited time, I might just send them to the clinicas. As compared to escorts in other world cities, I generally think for the money Sao Paulo escorts are better looking, offer more services and of course bring that famous Brazilian GFE. If you find a clinica girl you like, she most likely will also provide many services and the Brazilian GFE.
The main point is one can't drop into any city in the world, pick out a girl from photos on a random website and have high expectations.
ClinicaVIP
03-22-17, 02:44
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Member #4732
03-22-17, 15:04
There's something to be said for all the venues in Sao Paulo clinicas, escorts and boates. All the venues can provide good experiences and all have trade-offs. If someone is just dropping into Sao Paulo and has limited time, I might just send them to the clinicas. As compared to escorts in other world cities, I generally think for the money Sao Paulo escorts are better looking, offer more services and of course bring that famous Brazilian GFE. If you find a clinica girl you like, she most likely will also provide many services and the Brazilian GFE.
The main point is one can't drop into any city in the world, pick out a girl from photos on a random website and have high expectations.True. Relative to other places SP escorts are fantastic. Living here, my experience is skewed. I need to remember my worst experience with SP escorts are still as good as my best with US escorts, for example. But as you say, research is essential.
I fasted in Buenos Aires last week knowing I would have more options in So Paulo this week. Was planning on Scandalo tonight but reached out to a regular from Scandalo that I met a few years back. Very cute blond from Santa Catarina. I sent her a WhatsApp and asked if she would be in house tonight. She got back to me and said she wasn't going but would be happy to meet me somewhere else. I got upgraded at my hotel so I figured what the hell. Told the reception she was coming and they had me register her name and called me when she got there. No questions asked. I did have to go to the lobby to get her which was a bit risky as I am here for work with colleagues. But I was quick and it all worked out.
In my room it was heated. Kind of like seeing a hot x girlfriend that you haven't seen in a while. Total GFE, lots of touching, OWO, first shot in missionary, second in doggy. It was great. Glad I passed on the boate tonight. We talked for a bit, found out she has a kid at home ,(though her body doesn't show it), and found out a bit more about the boate scene. A couple interesting notes:
1. She used to spend 3 weeks in Sampa and 1 week at home. She needed the money at the time and that was the best way. Now she stays here for a week and 3 at home. Has money saved up. Because she isn't a "regular" at Scandalo anymore she has to pay when she goes, similar to what I would pay to entry when I go. The regulars don't pay. So it is better deal for her to stay out at this point unless she needs quick money. And because you pay to enter and pay for your room at Scandalo, girl takes 100% of her fee home. None to the house.
2. She said her friend called her today and asked if she wanted to go The Renaissance to hang out in the lobby. I had suspected there were WG in that lobby and that has now been confirmed. I've seen some pretty girls there.
So, all in all a good night. Likely will hit Scandalo tomorrow night to try something new.
Happy Hunting!
AltoBomGosto
03-23-17, 13:23
Bia and Luana are back. Rua General Jardin 242 one block from Metro República.
ABG.
Just got back from Scandallo. What a fun place. I really wasn't feeeling my best physically but mentally I had to go. Got an Uber and headed over about 11:15 pm. Straight in and sat on the back row of the restaurant (my perch). I like to observe from there. You can see lots of the girls going to / from the smoke chambers and they also sit down to eat. I ordered my Guaraná Zero and an ice cream sundae. It was good and I had already eaten dinner. I was hoping to eat at Scandallo but had no room. Again, I was solo and I am pretty much standard American in looks, tallish, blue eyes, brown hair. However, I am fluent in Portuguese which is a huge bonus in this place.
First was approached by Josy from Goiania. Cute girl, dark, great smile, small waist, and a biggish but firm butt. We chatted, I told her I just arrived, and she was totally cool. Told me I could find her later if need be. Perfect. Next a couple intimidating chicks came and sat at the table next to me. Tattoos, tiny waists, and huge butts. A side note that if you like big Brazil butts Scandallo has every size and shape. These girls had beautiful faces but the way they were basically joined at the hip it was probably double or nothing with them so I didn't even bother. And honestly, I like the fit ones with smaller butts, and there are plenty of those. Finished my ice cream and headed towards the bar / disco to check it out. As a left I noticed a girl sitting in front of me a couple tables with her back to me. She was eating. I checked her out as I passed and put her on my "to meet" list. Very full tonight. And every 30-min it seemed to get more crowded. But there was plenty to go around. Got to the bar and was approached by Michelle, from Curitiba and high as a kite. Small, all natural, unique look, cute, but not really my type. She was aggressive, put my hand on her tits, rubbing my wanger, kisses and hugs, etc. Knew it wasn't going to happen so I told her I was going to wait. Again, very cool about it. Kiss on the cheek and told me to find her if I changed my mind. Next I met Mayomi (I think). Very tall and thin from Belem. Definitely of a Asian / Indian decent. Beautiful girl but she did have braces and I just didn't feel it. Told her I was exploring and again, very cool about it. Kiss on the cheek, foi um prazer, moving on.
Out of the blue, I see the girl from the restaurant and I walked over to where she would pass me and she was moving around the room. As is usually the case, when I see something I like someone usually gets to her before me. Almost happened as she was walking but it fizzled out. She passes, eyes meet, and I stopped her to chat. She asked me if I wanted to go out and chat in the restaurant, which was great. They had a live band tonight and it was loud in the bar / disco. Too loud to chat. Sat and chatted for almost 30-min. Got her A drink. Very cool. Young girl from Curitiba, hasn't been here too long. Born in Matto Grosso. Something I really liked about her look. Had a couple tattoos, nose ring, skinny but very fit, nice butt, nice teeth, and we got along. My type. Decided to head upstairs, 700 for the hour, as usual. We had to wait 10-min for a room, it was a busy night.
Got to the room and used the bathroom, when I came out she was naked and ready to rock. Straight to kissing and some fondling. Had me undressed in a few minutes and went down for a CBJ, she was on the bed and I was standing. It was enjoyable, and after two shots the night before I knew it was going to take some effort. It did and I finally finished in missionary after what seemed like a very long and enjoyable fuck. We both showered and cleaned up a bit. I knew when I got in the shower there would be no second shot. We made out a bit but it wasn't happening so we chatted and called it. Cool girl, nice body, I could tell she was somewhat new to this stuff, but I liked that. Wasn't a toughened pro. Very enjoyable night. Had nothing left in the tank so I paid my bill and left.
Bottom line, treat these girls with respect and they are cool. If you are a jerk they will give it right back to you. Fun bagging a girl half your age who you are attracted to. I spent over an hour at my perch In the restaurant watching the flesh parade. If you can't find something you like in Scandallo, I would love to see your type, as they have it all. Nothing like it.
Until next time Sampa. Foi bom demais.
AltoBomGosto
03-24-17, 09:02
Bia is back as the manager / owner of the place. Opens from 10 AM untill 9 PM.
There were 04 girls avaliable, Carol, July, Jennifer e Rafa.
Went with Jennifer, specialist on BBBJ / CIM, excellent, swallowed all my cum, 120 reais = one hour and 50 reais for the BBBJTC. Did not ask for DATY bur probably she will do it for an extra tip. Also didný ask for anal sex.
Best rooms are the front rooms, place is simple but clean, new staff is gringo friendly.
You can have o good time there for a very low price.
ABG.
Sunset Strip
03-25-17, 02:57
Yes!
I need a low price spot. Will try to get there tomorrow (SAT). Is 30 minutes still R60?
The crew you mention sound like the old one. The girls who took over when they all left were a bit whack. I posted about the hard sales job.
Glad to hear things are back to normal.
SS.
Bia is back as the manager / owner of the place. Opens from 10 AM untill 9 PM.
There were 04 girls avaliable, Carol, July, Jennifer e Rafa.
Went with Jennifer, specialist on BBBJ / CIM, excellent, swallowed all my cum, 120 reais = one hour and 50 reais for the BBBJTC. Did not ask for DATY bur probably she will do it for an extra tip. Also didn ask for anal sex.
Best rooms are the front rooms, place is simple but clean, new staff is gringo friendly.
You can have o good time there for a very low price.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
03-25-17, 12:53
Yes!
I need a low price spot. Will try to get there tomorrow (SAT). Is 30 minutes still R60?
The crew you mention sound like the old one. The girls who took over when they all left were a bit whack. I posted about the hard sales job.
Glad to hear things are back to normal.
SS.I'm not shure but half hour must be in the range of 60 reais. Today Luana wll be there as manager.
ClinicaVIP
03-27-17, 23:11
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AltoBomGosto
03-28-17, 01:22
One of the best duplas, Priscilla and Rafinha.
ABG.
One of the best duplas, Priscilla and Rafinha.
ABG.I did the same Dupla. I agree it was pretty amazing.
Gannaton48
03-28-17, 09:53
Just got back from Scandallo. What a fun place. I really wasn't feeeling my best physically but mentally I had to go. Got an Uber and headed over about 11:15 pm. Straight in and sat on the back row of the restaurant (my perch). I like to observe from there. You can see lots of the girls going to / from the smoke chambers and they also sit down to eat. I ordered my Guaran Zero and an ice cream sundae. It was good and I had already eaten dinner. I was hoping to eat at Scandallo but had no room. Again, I was solo and I am pretty much standard American in looks, tallish, blue eyes, brown hair. However, I am fluent in Portuguese which is a huge bonus in this place.
First was approached by Josy from Goiania. Cute girl, dark, great smile, small waist, and a biggish but firm butt. We chatted, I told her I just arrived, and she was totally cool. Told me I could find her later if need be. Perfect. Next a couple intimidating chicks came and sat at the table next to me. Tattoos, tiny waists, and huge butts. A side note that if you like big Brazil butts Scandallo has every size and shape. These girls had beautiful faces but the way they were basically joined at the hip it was probably double or nothing with them so I didn't even bother. And honestly, I like the fit ones with smaller butts, and there are plenty of those. Finished my ice cream and headed towards the bar / disco to check it out. As a left I noticed a girl sitting in front of me a couple tables with her back to me. She was eating. I checked her out as I passed and put her on my "to meet" list. Very full tonight. And every 30-min it seemed to get more crowded. But there was plenty to go around. Got to the bar and was approached by Michelle, from Curitiba and high as a kite. Small, all natural, unique look, cute, but not really my type. She was aggressive, put my hand on her tits, rubbing my wanger, kisses and hugs, etc. Knew it wasn't going to happen so I told her I was going to wait. Again, very cool about it. Kiss on the cheek and told me to find her if I changed my mind. Next I met Mayomi (I think). Very tall and thin from Belem. Definitely of a Asian / Indian decent. Beautiful girl but she did have braces and I just didn't feel it. Told her I was exploring and again, very cool about it. Kiss on the cheek, foi um prazer, moving on.
Out of the blue, I see the girl from the restaurant and I walked over to where she would pass me and she was moving around the room. As is usually the case, when I see something I like someone usually gets to her before me. Almost happened as she was walking but it fizzled out. She passes, eyes meet, and I stopped her to chat. She asked me if I wanted to go out and chat in the restaurant, which was great. They had a live band tonight and it was loud in the bar / disco. Too loud to chat. Sat and chatted for almost 30-min. Got her A drink. Very cool. Young girl from Curitiba, hasn't been here too long. Born in Matto Grosso. Something I really liked about her look. Had a couple tattoos, nose ring, skinny but very fit, nice butt, nice teeth, and we got along. My type. Decided to head upstairs, 700 for the hour, as usual. We had to wait 10-min for a room, it was a busy night.
Got to the room and used the bathroom, when I came out she was naked and ready to rock. Straight to kissing and some fondling. Had me undressed in a few minutes and went down for a CBJ, she was on the bed and I was standing. It was enjoyable, and after two shots the night before I knew it was going to take some effort. It did and I finally finished in missionary after what seemed like a very long and enjoyable fuck. We both showered and cleaned up a bit. I knew when I got in the shower there would be no second shot. We made out a bit but it wasn't happening so we chatted and called it. Cool girl, nice body, I could tell she was somewhat new to this stuff, but I liked that. Wasn't a toughened pro. Very enjoyable night. Had nothing left in the tank so I paid my bill and left.
Bottom line, treat these girls with respect and they are cool. If you are a jerk they will give it right back to you. Fun bagging a girl half your age who you are attracted to. I spent over an hour at my perch In the restaurant watching the flesh parade. If you can't find something you like in Scandallo, I would love to see your type, as they have it all. Nothing like it.
Until next time Sampa. Foi bom demais.I was there about 7 years ago, now will be back in 2 weeks. I am now 68 y old with white hair but looking bit younger and still active! Do you think I will appear "at the wrong place" or did you see older men when being at this place? Thanks for your advice.
AltoBomGosto
03-28-17, 11:55
I was there about 7 years ago, now will be back in 2 weeks. I am now 68 y old with white hair but looking bit younger and still active! Do you think I will appear "at the wrong place" or did you see older men when being at this place? Thanks for your advice.You can be 100 YO, as far as you have the funds to pay the place, not cheap, you will be wellcome!
I was there about 7 years ago, now will be back in 2 weeks. I am now 68 y old with white hair but looking bit younger and still active! Do you think I will appear "at the wrong place" or did you see older men when being at this place? Thanks for your advice.You will be fine. Just as there are women of all makes and models, same goes for the guys. You have the money, you will have many to choose from.
Gannaton48
03-28-17, 18:30
You will be fine. Just as there are women of all makes and models, same goes for the guys. You have the money, you will have many to choose from.Thanks Troyster, yes of course when you have the money you can get anything. Nevertheless I can't remember having seen "older men" more than very occasionally at Scandallo by the time I had been there. Being eventually the only one of that kind among many many mongers is indeed a strange feeling, making one somewhat uncomfortable. SO my question again (if you can answer! Have you seen some during your visit?
I was there about 7 years ago, now will be back in 2 weeks. I am now 68 y old with white hair but looking bit younger and still active! Do you think I will appear "at the wrong place" or did you see older men when being at this place? Thanks for your advice.Go for it Gannaton48! Nobody is going to care if you hang out at Scandallo. I think the reason you don't see more older gentlemen is because they might not care for the scene or the late hours. If you're cool with the scene, enjoy yourself. I'm not going to tell you every girl will go home with you, but I know many who like older men. Some of the girls don't want to get rode hard by twentysomethings pumped up on Viagra and such. (No offense to our younger members.) You might find several hotties who prefer a less athletic workout. Now if you can ride them hard, good for you.
Good luck and report back!
Hey guys,
Have a question: I am going to Sao Paulo in a few weeks. What are some of the best agencies to view girls online and book them there (outcalls)? Is there a list somewhere of legit, good online agencies?
JerseyGuy123
03-29-17, 07:19
Troyster said he got a CBJ from the girl at Scandallo. Do all or most girls that works at Scandallo insist on CBJ? Have anybody else ever got BBBJ at this club?
Dr Clitorius
03-29-17, 09:32
Sao Paulo's trip reports.
After reading this pretty worth thread to be sure where I have to start the adventure, I deliver my modest contribution to the forum.
Day 1.
I arrived to SP on a Monday morning, after suffered the heavy traffic during more than 90' finally take a suite at Hilton Morumbí (good quality accomodation, kind staff, nice pool in floor 28 and girl friendly hotel). I can recommend it.
I wanted to take a look into the clinica's world.
Brooklin Massagem.
I've never been at a clinica before so this was my first time there.
They have good facilities and offer drinks between sessions (no alcoholics, beer and whisky).
I found the scene so structured to my taste when they make introductions with the free girls every 15' (like a rodizio's wg), don't have the Brazilian party ambient, just choose a girl with the receptionist and go on with her to the room (average ranking: 5-6 points, may be 2 or 3 7's).
I made 2 shoots here:
Alice: 22 yo smiling girl, 1,68, caucasian with some amazonia's mix, shape body with beautiful medium natural tits. Services: not so professional, she delivers DFK, owo even rimming and CIM with no extra charge, no anal sex.
Hellen: 28 yo girl, 1,60 caucasian brunette, not so tall but well shaped body and plastic even sensitive boobs, seems to be more pro. Services: DFK, OWO, anal, CIM (triple yes.
Except 2 American guys that stayed there for 30' watching two introductions and leaving out, I didn't see any foreigner, just brazilian medium class guys enjoying fast sex at affordable rates (1 h=200 R cash or 222 credit card).
I shouldn't be interested to come back, it's so subjective I know, but it's not my thing.
Tangará.
Then, I take a taxi and go to this house, good place with friendly staff, and the set on the usual introductions rodizio and the average level was the same 5/6 points girls. They seem to be quite tired at 7 PM and I understand, but after all I select Bruna to have a massagem and complete my afternoon.
Bruna: 24 yo, mulata girl with angel face, very easy going, and velvet skin, liked her. Services: DFK, owo and very well done massage as she told me she was pro massagist. Well spent time with her.
Enjoy Spa.
This clinica have best facilities in comparison, but the average girl's level was the same 5-6 points refered at the precedents.
The rates were about 250 R cash.
I didn't have any girl here.
Scandallo lounge.
I think it's not necessary to describe this venue as it's consider the main spot in Sampa neither the entrance fee as this items have been discussed a lot here.
Very big structure, nice boite / disco, nice multi option restaurant and nice rooms upstairs (I enjoy eating fish with white wine).
The most important are the girls, I counted down more than 220 during a Monday night with all types of them, average level 7, with a lot of 8's and few 9's.
I did 1girl that night.
Gabrielly: 22 yo, 1,72, model type blonde green eyes, whole natural body, natural medium tits (a 8,50 in my book), catarinense from Curitiba. Services: DFK, owo, CIM (with some reluctant), very easy going and humble, she told me that just 2 weeks working there. Rate: she ask me 600 R and close in 500 R for 1 h in the house (plus 200 R for the room). Nice experience.
Day 2.
Having visited the clinicas and didn't enjoy me a lot because, unfortunately I compare against Rio de Janeiro's termas and FKK and they haven't nothing to do. Clinicas are just for quickly dust, no more. It's my opinion, ok, subjective, ok, but my personal feeling.
After done some shopping and a nice brunch at a nice restaurant in Berrini Av, I decided to give another chance to another clinica close to my place.
Espaco Morumbí.
The same structure and offer that that includes the others, may be less well furnitured, but 30 girls in the house, I take Tamara just for a massage. Tamara: 28 yo, 1,70, black girl, super nice smile, strong body. Services: just massage with happy ending (hand job). Rate: 180 R.
Bomboa 222.
I came there at 20 hs, the entrance was 250 R (all consumable) so that I decided to have dinner there at table near the pole dance with 150 girls around me. I check the Bomboa's Salmon with rice / shrimps with champagne, delicious, it was funny because the girls interrupted my meal often to chat and so. I invited to join me a streaper call Josy and make a program with her after get a good deal at the hotel close to the club.
Josy: 21 yo, 1,75, light brunette with green eyes, full shape body, radiant smile. Services: DFK, owo, anal, CIM. Very hot girl. Rates: 480 R for the club and 600 R for Josy. I liked it all, well worth experience.
Cafe Photo.
I arrive there at midnight to see an old friend working in SP, he was at a table with her brazilian girlfriend (the most beautiful girl I saw in the club) and invite me to share their champagne chatting about our lives for 1 hour and a half.
Even though the girls look very well dressed with elegant clothes and high heels I wasn't captivated by anyone, they were a lot of 6's and 7's just in luxury ambient, I passed, so I payed my couvert of 100 R and left the house to see how it goes in Scandallo.
Scandallo.
The taxi take 25' to reach the club, at this point I must say I was something tired to translate from point to point in a such big city (every move you make demands 25/30 to 40/50' also by night with less cars in the streets).
The same process as the day before, entrance fee 220 (150 consumible) and welcome at 02.00 hs. I find a very beautiful blonde saying she was professional photographic model from Santa Catarina (super stunning) doing extra money there called Veronica, but I suspected something fake in her arguments after a quick chat so I decided meet her later.
After that I met alone one super stunning blond girl from Porto Alegre who explain to me that it was her second day at the club with her girlfriend (more experienced as she was doing her second trip to Scandallo from POA) they were 2 marine biology's students trying to make some extra cash to support their wages at the uni, may be two liers of course, but I believe them, they don't look comfortable at all doing the hunting customer job, I smell that), two minutes later her GFE joined us and, another goddess!! I invited them to drink a champagne and talk a little bit, 20' later we enter in the negotiation and they told me that they don't like lesbian sex and never try a 3 some but as they were friend and we were at working place they like to have the experience at the right price of course, they ask me for 1500 R with all inclusive except anal for 1 hour and I offer 1200 R that they accepted (it was 3. 30 hs at this moment). I score them 9 and 9. 50.
Eloisa: 21 yo, 1,72, blond hair blue / eyes (German /Italian descendant), super white skin, shape body, super nice rose natural tits, close pussy, barby girl.
Ana Paula: 20 yo, 1,75, brown hair / green eyes (italian descendant), tanned beach skin, super shape body and medium size natural boobs, super tight pussy and velvet skin, dreamed girl.
Services: after take a shower 3 together, we start with LFK, turn on DFK, their pussies become wet and more wet, owo at the same time, kisses over the three bodies and owo together, DATY, DATO, fingering, fucking pussies changing condoms, and CIM for the 2 girls and swallowed it!
Although they didn't seem professionals and have amateur's ways they really enjoy the time. The shiest girls became two lions in bed).
I call it a great night!
I take their telephone numbers and said goodbye just for this moment. It would be 4. 45 hs and the club was closing, the public relation manager had a short talk to me meanwhile I was paying the bill and gave me his personal card, good guy doing well his job.
Love Story.
As I was in a sexual shock after tremendous 3 some, decided to have the last drink in Love Story as I know it's opening till late.
I saw their a literal junge, gays, lesbians, working girls, normal girls, alternative young people, everything you can imagine, crazy place that I wanted to remember.
I drink a coffee, yes, just a coffee with a glass of water because I didn't like finish full drunk and go to my place with the sun shining.
DAY 3.
I woke up by 4 pm very tired and happy, have a late lunch and then went to the Morumbi shopping to buy some presents but I couldn't delete the last 3 some in my mind!
I come back to my asking myself why not to make me a present during my last night in Sampa?
Easy decision I called Ana Paula to invite her and Elo to have dinner and full overnight in my hotel suite, they buy the idea immediately and we make a deal at 3000 R (I felt at the beginning they need and like money, but they are new in the bizz, two beautiful and rare gems!
They came up at 9 Pm and we were making crazy sex after 10 AM.
We have dinner in my suite, they win more confident, we joked a lot, I think actually they saw me as a pervert uncle or something like that)).
We made plans to organize a trip abroad together.
Super cute, super sexies, and super wooww hot!
I don't like to be repetitive but I have 4 pops adding rimming and 2 memorable anal times (for you The Cane finally with Paula and Elo swallowed all my cum!
I recall this like one of my best nights during my monger life!
They leave the place by 10 AM as I had to be in Congonhas Airport. My next destination: Rio.
DC.
AltoBomGosto
03-29-17, 12:19
Hey guys,
Have a question: I am going to Sao Paulo in a few weeks. What are some of the best agencies to view girls online and book them there (outcalls)? Is there a list somewhere of legit, good online agencies?RTFF and go to a good clinica.
Gannaton48
03-29-17, 22:48
Sao Paulo's trip reports.
After reading this pretty worth thread to be sure where I have to start the adventure, I deliver my modest contribution to the forum.
Day 1.
I arrived to SP on a Monday morning, after suffered the heavy traffic during more than 90' finally take a suite at Hilton Morumb (good quality accomodation, kind staff, nice pool in floor 28 and girl friendly hotel). I can recommend it.
I wanted to take a look into the clinica's world.
Brooklin Massagem.
I've never been at a clinica before so this was my first time there.
They have good facilities and offer drinks between sessions (no alcoholics, beer and whisky).
I found the scene so structured to my taste when they make introductions with the free girls every 15' (like a rodizio's wg), don't have the Brazilian party ambient, just choose a girl with the receptionist and go on with her to the room (average ranking: 5-6 points, may be 2 or 3 7's).
I made 2 shoots here:
Alice: 22 yo smiling girl, 1,68, caucasian with some amazonia's mix, shape body with beautiful medium natural tits. Services: not so professional, she delivers DFK, owo even rimming and CIM with no extra charge, no anal sex.
Hellen: 28 yo girl, 1,60 caucasian brunette, not so tall but well shaped body and plastic even sensitive boobs, seems to be more pro. Services: DFK, OWO, anal, CIM (triple yes.
Except 2 American guys that stayed there for 30' watching two introductions and leaving out, I didn't see any foreigner, just brazilian medium class guys enjoying fast sex at affordable rates (1 h=200 R cash or 222 credit card).
I shouldn't be interested to come back, it's so subjective I know, but it's not my thing.
Tangar.
Then, I take a taxi and go to this house, good place with friendly staff, and the set on the usual introductions rodizio and the average level was the same 5/6 points girls. They seem to be quite tired at 7 PM and I understand, but after all I select Bruna to have a massagem and complete my afternoon.
Bruna: 24 yo, mulata girl with angel face, very easy going, and velvet skin, liked her. Services: DFK, owo and very well done massage as she told me she was pro massagist. Well spent time with her.
Enjoy Spa.
This clinica have best facilities in comparison, but the average girl's level was the same 5-6 points refered at the precedents.
The rates were about 250 R cash.
I didn't have any girl here.
Scandallo lounge.
I think it's not necessary to describe this venue as it's consider the main spot in Sampa neither the entrance fee as this items have been discussed a lot here.
Very big structure, nice boite / disco, nice multi option restaurant and nice rooms upstairs (I enjoy eating fish with white wine).
The most important are the girls, I counted down more than 220 during a Monday night with all types of them, average level 7, with a lot of 8's and few 9's.
I did 1girl that night.
Gabrielly: 22 yo, 1,72, model type blonde green eyes, whole natural body, natural medium tits (a 8,50 in my book), catarinense from Curitiba. Services: DFK, owo, CIM (with some reluctant), very easy going and humble, she told me that just 2 weeks working there. Rate: she ask me 600 R and close in 500 R for 1 h in the house (plus 200 R for the room). Nice experience.
Day 2.
Having visited the clinicas and didn't enjoy me a lot because, unfortunately I compare against Rio de Janeiro's termas and FKK and they haven't nothing to do. Clinicas are just for quickly dust, no more. It's my opinion, ok, subjective, ok, but my personal feeling.
After done some shopping and a nice brunch at a nice restaurant in Berrini Av, I decided to give another chance to another clinica close to my place.
Espaco Morumb.
The same structure and offer that that includes the others, may be less well furnitured, but 30 girls in the house, I take Tamara just for a massage. Tamara: 28 yo, 1,70, black girl, super nice smile, strong body. Services: just massage with happy ending (hand job). Rate: 180 R.
Bomboa 222.
I came there at 20 hs, the entrance was 250 R (all consumable) so that I decided to have dinner there at table near the pole dance with 150 girls around me. I check the Bomboa's Salmon with rice / shrimps with champagne, delicious, it was funny because the girls interrupted my meal often to chat and so. I invited to join me a streaper call Josy and make a program with her after get a good deal at the hotel close to the club.
Josy: 21 yo, 1,75, light brunette with green eyes, full shape body, radiant smile. Services: DFK, owo, anal, CIM. Very hot girl. Rates: 480 R for the club and 600 R for Josy. I liked it all, well worth experience.
Cafe Photo.
I arrive there at midnight to see an old friend working in SP, he was at a table with her brazilian girlfriend (the most beautiful girl I saw in the club) and invite me to share their champagne chatting about our lives for 1 hour and a half.
Even though the girls look very well dressed with elegant clothes and high heels I wasn't captivated by anyone, they were a lot of 6's and 7's just in luxury ambient, I passed, so I payed my couvert of 100 R and left the house to see how it goes in Scandallo.
Scandallo.
The taxi take 25' to reach the club, at this point I must say I was something tired to translate from point to point in a such big city (every move you make demands 25/30 to 40/50' also by night with less cars in the streets).
The same process as the day before, entrance fee 220 (150 consumible) and welcome at 02.00 hs. I find a very beautiful blonde saying she was professional photographic model from Santa Catarina (super stunning) doing extra money there called Veronica, but I suspected something fake in her arguments after a quick chat so I decided meet her later.
After that I met alone one super stunning blond girl from Porto Alegre who explain to me that it was her second day at the club with her girlfriend (more experienced as she was doing her second trip to Scandallo from POA) they were 2 marine biology's students trying to make some extra cash to support their wages at the uni, may be two liers of course, but I believe them, they don't look comfortable at all doing the hunting customer job, I smell that), two minutes later her GFE joined us and, another goddess!! I invited them to drink a champagne and talk a little bit, 20' later we enter in the negotiation and they told me that they don't like lesbian sex and never try a 3 some but as they were friend and we were at working place they like to have the experience at the right price of course, they ask me for 1500 R with all inclusive except anal for 1 hour and I offer 1200 R that they accepted (it was 3. 30 hs at this moment). I score them 9 and 9. 50.
Eloisa: 21 yo, 1,72, blond hair blue / eyes (German /Italian descendant), super white skin, shape body, super nice rose natural tits, close pussy, barby girl.
Ana Paula: 20 yo, 1,75, brown hair / green eyes (italian descendant), tanned beach skin, super shape body and medium size natural boobs, super tight pussy and velvet skin, dreamed girl.
Services: after take a shower 3 together, we start with LFK, turn on DFK, their pussies become wet and more wet, owo at the same time, kisses over the three bodies and owo together, DATY, DATO, fingering, fucking pussies changing condoms, and CIM for the 2 girls and swallowed it!
Although they didn't seem professionals and have amateur's ways they really enjoy the time. The shiest girls became two lions in bed).
I call it a great night!
I take their telephone numbers and said goodbye just for this moment. It would be 4. 45 hs and the club was closing, the public relation manager had a short talk to me meanwhile I was paying the bill and gave me his personal card, good guy doing well his job.
Love Story.
As I was in a sexual shock after tremendous 3 some, decided to have the last drink in Love Story as I know it's opening till late.
I saw their a literal junge, gays, lesbians, working girls, normal girls, alternative young people, everything you can imagine, crazy place that I wanted to remember.
I drink a coffee, yes, just a coffee with a glass of water because I didn't like finish full drunk and go to my place with the sun shining.
DAY 3.
I woke up by 4 pm very tired and happy, have a late lunch and then went to the Morumbi shopping to buy some presents but I couldn't delete the last 3 some in my mind!
I come back to my asking myself why not to make me a present during my last night in Sampa?
Easy decision I called Ana Paula to invite her and Elo to have dinner and full overnight in my hotel suite, they buy the idea immediately and we make a deal at 3000 R (I felt at the beginning they need and like money, but they are new in the bizz, two beautiful and rare gems!
They came up at 9 Pm and we were making crazy sex after 10 AM.
We have dinner in my suite, they win more confident, we joked a lot, I think actually they saw me as a pervert uncle or something like that)).
We made plans to organize a trip abroad together.
Super cute, super sexies, and super wooww hot!
I don't like to be repetitive but I have 4 pops adding rimming and 2 memorable anal times (for you The Cane finally with Paula and Elo swallowed all my cum!
I recall this like one of my best nights during my monger life!
They leave the place by 10 AM as I had to be in Congonhas Airport. My next destination: Rio.
DC.HI, I am being repetitive but sicne you were just at Scandallo twice: have you seen "older" customers like me with gray / white hair? Would I appear "out of place" ?
Xkalibur80
03-30-17, 02:40
I think your question has already been answered. Age is not a factor at any of these places. Money talks and the place oozes sex! Just go and have a good time.
Sao Paulo is my go to city from now on. Just returned from my very first trip and the experience you will have. Is second to none!
HI, I am being repetitive but sicne you were just at Scandallo twice: have you seen "older" customers like me with gray / white hair? Would I appear "out of place" ?
After reading this pretty worth thread to be sure where I have to start the adventure, I deliver my modest contribution to the forum.DC,
Nice report on Sampa! I share many of your sentiments. Thanks for contributing!
Gannaton48
03-30-17, 17:42
I will stay in SP for just 1 afternoon and evening. My idea is to go to a clinica in the afternoon. Of the most famous ones (Miruna, Tangara, Brooklyn, EnjoySpa), which is the most likely for me to find a girl doing CIM? Also I would like to know if clinicas are open at night and about when they close. Thank you!
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