Sao Paulo Reports

[WyattEarp]

If I do come during Carnival, is Rio a better Carnival experience than SP? Or vice versa?

Most people will say that the Carnival in Rio is far better than SP. The Carnvial parade inside the stadium is more luxurious. Both cities have a lot of street parading as well, what are called "blocos". You should read up elsewhere on Carnival.Strictly speaking of Carnival, I recommend that men in their 20's /30's think about going to Salvador. Of course, there is a monger scene. It pales in comparison to SP and Rio, but Salvador Carnival is a blast and great place to take a shot at hooking up with civilian girls visiting from all over Brazil. There is a major gringo stigma in Rio. In Salvador, Brazilian girls will be impressed you found your way there for an event that is simply more Brazilian than touristy. It's not as grand as the Samba parades in the Rio Sambadrome, but it's several days of non-stop street parties with music you will never forget.

There are plenty of youtube videos that can explain it better than me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ-NlHUcffY

[Jorge Rad10]

Dear forumers,

Soon, I will be back in Sao Paulo for few days. By 5 times, I have experienced the scene.

For my next travel, I would like to meet some Subcelebridades. Is there someone who has some contacts. As you know, it needs to be introduce to get access to those book Rosa.

L.Well, you arent able to receive any messages, I suggest to change that for better interchange with the forumers.

Cheers.

[Member #4732]

Strictly speaking of Carnival, I recommend that men in their 20's /30's think about going to Salvador. Of course, there is a monger scene. It pales in comparison to SP and Rio, but Salvador Carnival is a blast and great place to take a shot at hooking up with civilian girls visiting from all over Brazil. There is a major gringo stigma in Rio. In Salvador, Brazilian girls will be impressed you found your way there for an event that is simply more Brazilian than touristy. It's not as grand as the Samba parades in the Rio Sambadrome, but it's several days of non-stop street parties with music you will never forget.

There are plenty of youtube videos that can explain it better than me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ-NlHUcffYI was going to mention this, and you are correct. But it might be a bit of a dicey trip for a first time visitor. For someone who has been to Brazil before, it makes total sense. Not sure if I would recommend it to a first timer though. Your thoughts?

[WyattEarp]

I was going to mention this, and you are correct. But it might be a bit of a dicey trip for a first time visitor. For someone who has been to Brazil before, it makes total sense. Not sure if I would recommend it to a first timer though. Your thoughts?Yes, it would be ideal for someone with some Brazil smarts and some Portuguese. I think some experienced travelers who can work ISG and Tripadvisor would be fine, but perhaps that's rare.

[LobbyMan1]

Well, you arent able to receive any messages, I suggest to change that for better interchange with the forumers.

Cheers.Hi Jorge,

Thanks for your advice. From now, I can receive messages.

L.

[GoneFishin]

I see that the city has a holiday this Friday. Founding of the city, 465 years, how much will this affect the monger scene from normal? Any thoughts?

GF.

[AltoBomGosto]

Ref. Casas on next Friday most if them will be open.

You may expect some decline in the number of garotas, the only place I know for shure to be good regarded to garotas is Tangara, who is going to be open the whole weekend.

ABG.

[GoneFishin]

Av. Irai, 511, www.moemaprime.com.br.

Around 3 pm on a Wed.

R220 for an hour. (I only do an hour).

First time visiting and pretty much newbie to Brazil. No porto so basically I mumbled my way through the presentation. Around 12 girls mostly 7's in my book. The only 8 to me was Sandra. Lighter skin girl with serious look to her. One shoulder tattoo, see cups, all natural. I enjoy this type of body the most, mostly unblemished, firm to gym body and natural. Facilities are nice, clean, organized and nicely decorated. After telling the front desk girl your selection you follow her to the room. Pay afterwards. The room was large and good size bathroom with shower. Not like some of those cramp places we have all visited. My only complaint about the rooms and for me its a big one is the bed. Its really just a cushion atop a double stack of wood pallets. Please tell me this is NOT the norm. I was able to ask Sandra and she said all the clinicas have the same setup. I hope she is wrong. Her service was great, BBBJ, some kissing, she smokes like most of the ladies so I don't get into the deep kissing with them. Allowed all positions and pretty much lived up to the reputation of the service found in Brazil. When your finished you walk down and tell the front desk which lady you were with and pay. There is a smoking area as you walk in so you can get a group glimpse. Also, one pop, although was able to manage to communicate with Sandra about this. If I understood correctly, you negotiate with the girl ahead of time. Some do allow two, some don't.

Thanks to all posters in this thread. Your insights have made exploring this paradise that much easier.

GF.

[AltoBomGosto]

I was going to mention this, and you are correct. But it might be a bit of a dicey trip for a first time visitor. For someone who has been to Brazil before, it makes total sense. Not sure if I would recommend it to a first timer though. Your thoughts?IMO Salvador is going to be a challenge to have a good time there if you don't speak intermediate Portuguese. If you have a baiano friend to be your wingman that is ok. And the Baianos are very friendly to gringos. And the mulatas are even better than the ones from Rio. The trio eletricos are fantastic to be on!

[AltoBomGosto]

Av. Irai, 511, www.moemaprime.com.br.

Around 3 pm on a Wed.

R220 for an hour. (I only do an hour).

First time visiting and pretty much newbie to Brazil. No porto so basically I mumbled my way through the presentation. Around 12 girls mostly 7's in my book. The only 8 to me was Sandra. Lighter skin girl with serious look to her. One shoulder tattoo, see cups, all natural. I enjoy this type of body the most, mostly unblemished, firm to gym body and natural. Facilities are nice, clean, organized and nicely decorated. After telling the front desk girl your selection you follow her to the room. Pay afterwards. The room was large and good size bathroom with shower. Not like some of those cramp places we have all visited. My only complaint about the rooms and for me its a big one is the bed. Its really just a cushion atop a double stack of wood pallets. Please tell me this is NOT the norm. I was able to ask Sandra and she said all the clinicas have the same setup. I hope she is wrong. Her service was great, BBBJ, some kissing, she smokes like most of the ladies so I don't get into the deep kissing with them. Allowed all positions and pretty much lived up to the reputation of the service found in Brazil. When your finished you walk down and tell the front desk which lady you were with and pay. There is a smoking area as you walk in so you can get a group glimpse. Also, one pop, although was able to manage to communicate with Sandra about this. If I understood correctly, you negotiate with the girl ahead of time. Some do, some don't.

Thanks to all posters in this thread. Your insights have made exploring this paradise that much easier.

GF.There are lots of places who have queen and also king size beds!

As an example, Red Way has a room with a king size bed.

ABG

[Kcrl01]

I see that the city has a holiday this Friday. Founding of the city, 465 years, how much will this affect the monger scene from normal? Any thoughts?

GF.The last time this happened all the clinicas and garotas de programme were all free for the whole weekend.

[Member #4732]

Av. Irai, 511, www.moemaprime.com.br.

Around 3 pm on a Wed.

R220 for an hour. (I only do an hour).

My only complaint about the rooms and for me its a big one is the bed. Its really just a cushion atop a double stack of wood pallets. Please tell me this is NOT the norm. I was able to ask Sandra and she said all the clinicas have the same setup. I hope she is wrong.


GF.Well, the bad news is that those are probably some of the best beds you will find. Where have you been mongering besides Brasil? In Brasil those are amongst the best beds you will find unfortunately, at clinicas. Its one of the reasons, amongst many, that I prefer to receive ladies at my apartment rather than at the clinica. The beds are usually OK at best. Even in the better places, the spend a lot of money on the decor but skimp on the quality of the beds. They also skimp on the tables inside the rooms, and hangers for clothes. Sometimes there is a HUGE room, with a teeny tiny little bedside table and nothing else, no coat stand or hangers. Its a bit annoying, but hey, the ladies usually more than make up for it. I wouldn't for better beds and poorer ladies.

[Thunder5]

The last time this happened all the clinicas and garotas de programme were all free for the whole weekend.Ah man! (Banging my forehead against the wall) I finally come to SP for the 1st time, and on the 1st night I arrive when I go to Casarao an important frickin 3 day holiday weekend is happening? So the "bbb" team or "ccc" team of garotas are going to be on display? DAMN. Does this also mean more dudes there since it's a holiday weekend? Don't tell me it's going to be less girls, the "ccc" team of a bunch of 6's of garota girls, and more dudes on my 1st ever night in Sao Paolo at Casarao (Banging my head some more). . Well you never know, maybe 5 of the most amazing freelancers ever, who are starting out on their 1st night decide to go to Casarao this Friday night Jan 25. (banging my head some more). (Why me!) Come on man!

By the way Gone Fishing, thanks for your Clinica report today. (Banging my head some more on Friday and rest of weekend not being a normal or full capacity of girls weekend).

[AltoBomGosto]

The last time this happened all the clinicas and garotas de programme were all free for the whole weekend.Tangara will be open all days of the next Friday! If you are planning to go to any other clinica please call first.

ABG.

[The Cane]

Ah man! (Banging my forehead against the wall) I finally come to SP for the 1st time, and on the 1st night I arrive when I go to Casarao an important frickin 3 day holiday weekend is happening? So the "bbb" team or "ccc" team of garotas are going to be on display? DAMN.I tell guys all the time to make sure you check for local holidays online before you make plans to travel! Happened to me on my very first trip to Rio. There is some relatively obscure holiday celebrated only in Rio and no other place in the entire country. Lucky for me it was only for a day and didn't have much of an impact on my trip. As a matter of fact, as I recall I appreciated the break as those beautiful Brazilian girls were wearing me out LOL! But, I took that as an important lesson. Always, always, always check on a country's holidays from a reliable source before you make any solid plans to travel there to monger!

[GoneFishin]

Well, the bad news is that those are probably some of the best beds you will find. Where have you been mongering besides Brasil? In Brasil those are amongst the best beds you will find unfortunately, at clinicas. Its one of the reasons, amongst many, that I prefer to receive ladies at my apartment rather than at the clinica. The beds are usually OK at best. Even in the better places, the spend a lot of money on the decor but skimp on the quality of the beds. They also skimp on the tables inside the rooms, and hangers for clothes. Sometimes there is a HUGE room, with a teeny tiny little bedside table and nothing else, no coat stand or hangers. Its a bit annoying, but hey, the ladies usually more than make up for it. I wouldn't for better beds and poorer ladies.I done my share of the world tour, Mex, SEA, FKKs, Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Arg, and I agree with you Rovnak, the outcall is the best option for me as well. But being newbie to Brazil, I rather try what service are already on offer, explore locations, get the vibe and cost benefit, etc. Not speaking the language, having an airbnb, first timer, makes finding the right girl who will offer me service in my apt to much hassle.

Most places in the world I have gone at least have a crappy bed, meaning a mattress and at the normal bed height. And a good percentage have good to excellent beds. But in the end the service is what matters. I would fuck these girls standing up, LOL.

I went to Chanes 57 last night, loved the place (report to follow), they even had live music for a time and will again tonight. So I will be going back, music starts at 8 pm if anyone wants to toast a beer with me. Come on down.

GF.

[Member #4732]

I done my share of the world tour, Mex, SEA, FKKs, Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Arg, and I agree with you Rovnak, the outcall is the best option for me as well. But being newbie to Brazil, I rather try what service are already on offer, explore locations, get the vibe and cost benefit, etc. Not speaking the language, having an airbnb, first timer, makes finding the right girl who will offer me service in my apt to much hassle.

Most places in the world I have gone at least have a crappy bed, meaning a mattress and at the normal bed height. And a good percentage have good to excellent beds. But in the end the service is what matters. I would fuck these girls standing up, LOL.

I went to Chanes 57 last night, loved the place (report to follow), they even had live music for a time and will again tonight. So I will be going back, music starts at 8 pm if anyone wants to toast a beer with me. Come on down.

GF.Haha, the beds in Chanes are worse though. They move all over the room. I may go by to chat.

[Questner]

Which top venues may be an affordable freelance alternative to Scandalo, Casarao, Bomboa, Café Photo other than clinicas and incall / outcalls where I can save on entry fees, exit fees, consumption, entertainment etc. ?

[Steve 9696]

Which top venues may be an affordable freelance alternative to Scandalo, Casarao, Bomboa, Caf Photo other than clinicas and incall / outcalls where I can save on entry fees, exit fees, consumption, entertainment etc. ?Casarao is more like what you are after. Not at all as high end as the other three. Only like a $20 cover. But the girls will vary.

Trying to go lower cost than that at night? I can't help w that.

[AltoBomGosto]

Yesterday I went with THAIS, a lovely lady from Curitiba, 27 YO, brunette, an academy built body, very GFE, good DFK.

One of the best BBBJ and CIM of all the girls of the house, spend one hour with her, 03 pops, twice in her mouth.

Used room number nine, this room has AC, a complete private bathroom and a nice queen size bed.

If you want to go with THAIS you better be there at 11 AM, time that she normally arrives. She is an early bird and around 6 PM she leaves the house. Better ask her about BBBJ / CIM, I gave her an extra tip.

I went early, around 2 PM. Very well received by Suzan, she speaks English. If you go after 4 PM ask for Takuma, for english assistance.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

Casarao is more like what you are after. Not at all as high end as the other three. Only like a $20 cover. But the girls will vary.

Trying to go lower cost than that at night? I can't help w that.Go and visit this place near Av, Faria Lima, and Largo de Pinheiros, there is the metro station Pinheiros in the vicinity.

It has been a long time I've been there but I remember that until 9 PM was no entrance fee and after it was 20 reais.

Boate Glamourosa. Rua dos Pinheiros, 1394 / reais 50,00 - 30 Min. Girl plus room.

In the vicinity, at Largo de Pinheiros, there are some other 10 low-cost brothels, they have a bar and rooms.

Another cheap alternative is the trash building at Rua dos Andradas 69, Centro, near station LUZ of the metro. Costs 30 reais = 15 minutes or one pop.

I hope I've helped you! PM me for details.

ABG

[AltoBomGosto]

Yesterday I went with THAIS, a lovely lady from Curitiba, 27 YO, brunette, an academy built body, very GFE, good DFK.

One of the best BBBJ and CIM of all the girls of the house, spend one hour with her, 03 pops, twice in her mouth.

Used room number nine, this room has AC, a complete private bathroom and a nice queen size bed.

If you want to go with THAIS you better be there at 11 AM, time that she normally arrives. She is an early bird and around 6 PM she leaves the house. Better ask her about BBBJ / CIM, I gave her an extra tip.

I went early, around 2 PM. Very well received by Suzan, she speaks English. If you go after 4 PM ask for Takuma, for english assistance.

ABG.Tangara will be open today from 10 AM until 10 PM. Yesterday they were 35 girls at 4 PM.

PM me for details.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

Casarao is more like what you are after. Not at all as high end as the other three. Only like a $20 cover. But the girls will vary.

Trying to go lower cost than that at night? I can't help w that.Another low-cost night club will be Muchachos Club, near Largo 13 in Santo Amaro. For 100 reais you get a nice service for half hour, girls are in a range to 5 / 6 but sometimes you can find real gems there!

Can't remember the entrance fee but must be not above 30 reais.

I went by car but you can go by metro, Google the address and find out. It's on the new Santo Amaro line.

ABG.

[GoneFishin]

Rua dos Chanes, 57.

Website does not work (at least for me).

I would describe this place as more a bar with chicas and rooms then I would a club. No cover the two times I went. Once at 3 pm (Wed) the other at 9 pm (Thur). They have live band, Wed-Thur, and Karaoke on Fridays. Band starts early like 8 pm. Club is open till 2 am and closed Sunday but I was told if the party still going then they will stay open later. Some girls I saw earlier in the day were not there at night, so perhaps 2 shifts.

The bar area is upstairs, bathrooms, lounging (w / Air), outside seating areas were all decent but not upscale like a club. The sit down bar is small, mostly for serving, there are a few tv's and a decent pool table that looked free to use. Girls number are around 12 to 15 during the two shifts I was there. The rooms are downstairs, they are small and with a "bed" and bathroom with shower, hot water. Clean and my two rooms came with air. Chica prices depend on the hour, before 9 pm, 30 min /170 and HR /250. After 9 pm, 30 min /250 and HR /350 (in Reals). Drink prices are very reasonable, I bought myself 2 beers (cold) and one girl a beer it came out to 56 reals for the drinks total. I don't think the girls make commission here on drinks so no pushing to buy them.

You enter downstairs and ask the attendant for a slip a paper that they use to mark your purchases, including the girl. You tally up when you leave and pay here as well. The blonde lady I spoke to both days speaks some English. The owner is a chubby dude that was very welcoming to me and checked on me several times each visit. This is not a pretentious type of place. More like a local hangout vibe where you can enjoy your drink with a pretty girl and if you want it to go further rooms are downstairs. During the day, I saw the girls do presentations downstairs but not during the night. Both times I dressed in shorts and sandals and did not feel out of place.

Truth be told, I enjoy this type of place much more than the clubs with large selection of ladies. Just scanning the room I could immediately see 5 to 7 girls that were doable for me. With a smaller selection you don't feel the need to see every single girl before deciding. I could pretty much see all of them before taking 2 sips of my beer. The girls are mostly avg but some do stand out. They are all natural from what I can see and do not over apply the cosmetics. Most only port but have patience to translate on google with you. I found one that speaks English well, Natalie but she was one of the day girls. Have yet to see her at night. One girl spoke Spanish fairly well. The service was excellent, BBBJ and any position allowed, daty. They have condoms and I don't think I was charged for them. So if your not a heavy drinker (like me) you can enjoy some companionship in a bar like setting, drink some then do the deed all for around 100 us. These type of places are not really written about much on this thread. I'm not sure why. Maybe because the girl selection is smaller.

I will try and visit a more of these type places that have just been mentioned (thanks contributors) during my few days here and report.

GF.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Another low-cost night club will be Muchachos Club, near Largo 13 in Santo Amaro. For 100 reais you get a nice service for half hour, girls are in a range to 5 / 6 but sometimes you can find real gems there!

Can't remember the entrance fee but must be not above 30 reais.

I went by car but you can go by metro, Google the address and find out. It's on the new Santo Amaro line.

ABG.When I went there last November, the admission was 10 real, which included 2 (maybe 3) drinks.

[AltoBomGosto]

Rua dos Chanes, 57.

Website does not work (at least for me).

I would describe this place as more a bar with chicas and rooms then I would a club. No cover the two times I went. Once at 3 pm (Wed) the other at 9 pm (Thur). They have live band, Wed-Thur, and Karaoke on Fridays. Band starts early like 8 pm. Club is open till 2 am and closed Sunday but I was told if the party still going then they will stay open later. Some girls I saw earlier in the day were not there at night, so perhaps 2 shifts.

The bar area is upstairs, bathrooms, lounging (w / Air), outside seating areas were all decent but not upscale like a club. The sit down bar is small, mostly for serving, there are a few tv's and a decent pool table that looked free to use. Girls number are around 12 to 15 during the two shifts I was there. The rooms are downstairs, they are small and with a "bed" and bathroom with shower, hot water. Clean and my two rooms came with air. Chica prices depend on the hour, before 9 pm, 30 min /170 and HR /250. After 9 pm, 30 min /250 and HR /350 (in Reals). Drink prices are very reasonable, I bought myself 2 beers (cold) and one girl a beer it came out to 56 reals for the drinks total. I don't think the girls make commission here on drinks so no pushing to buy them.

You enter downstairs and ask the attendant for a slip a paper that they use to mark your purchases, including the girl. You tally up when you leave and pay here as well. The blonde lady I spoke to both days speaks some English. The owner is a chubby dude that was very welcoming to me and checked on me several times each visit. This is not a pretentious type of place. More like a local hangout vibe where you can enjoy your drink with a pretty girl and if you want it to go further rooms are downstairs. During the day, I saw the girls do presentations downstairs but not during the night. Both times I dressed in shorts and sandals and did not feel out of place.

Truth be told, I enjoy this type of place much more than the clubs with large selection of ladies. Just scanning the room I could immediately see 5 to 7 girls that were doable for me. With a smaller selection you don't feel the need to see every single girl before deciding. I could pretty much see all of them before taking 2 sips of my beer. The girls are mostly avg but some do stand out. They are all natural from what I can see and do not over apply the cosmetics. Most only port but have patience to translate on google with you. I found one that speaks English well, Natalie but she was one of the day girls. Have yet to see her at night. One girl spoke Spanish fairly well. The service was excellent, BBBJ and any position allowed, daty. They have condoms and I don't think I was charged for them. So if your not a heavy drinker (like me) you can enjoy some companionship in a bar like setting, drink some then do the deed all for around 100 us. These type of places are not really written about much on this thread. I'm not sure why. Maybe because the girl selection is smaller.

I will try and visit a more of these type places that have just been mentioned (thanks contributors) during my few days here and report.

GF.Thanks GF for your excellent report!

I wrote about Chanes 57 a couple of months ago, when I last took a visitor to a tour there. Since there were only 03 girls available we skipped the place and next day went to Espacio Vergueiro, also a bar with garotas, where the selection was 15 girls.

I will do another visit to Chanes 57, I like the atmosphere if they are add more garotas to the team than the place will be ok for me. As I'm a non-drinker, girls count the most.

Any questions please PM me.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

When I went there last November, the admission was 10 real, which included 2 (maybe 3) drinks.Thanks, JB, for your information!

ABG.

[Member #4732]

Rua dos Chanes, 57.

These type of places are not really written about much on this thread. I'm not sure why. Maybe because the girl selection is smaller.

I will try and visit a more of these type places that have just been mentioned (thanks contributors) during my few days here and report.

GF.Good report. Chanes was written about by me and others. Initially some people were put off because originally there was a cover charge of 60 reais in consumption but seems to be passed. Also, there were times when the number of girls was low, like 5. I wrote that it is a good late night option, in particular if you go with a wingman because then there is someone to chat with.

This club is sort of a hybrid between a clinica (rooms) and prive (small bar and lounge). I guess one could call it a big prive or small club. Anyway, there are not many of this type. I think ABG has mentioned Espaco Vergeiro as another. The big limiter here is that guys who want to maximize their selection choices will probably prefer the big clubs like Scandalo and Casarao during a short visit. Guys who are here longer should check out Chanes. Its also always possible to go to Chanes early and then leave for Casarao for example at midnight.

[ScoobieDiver]

To SP newbs: just got into SP and while I've been here before, it's my first time doing it myself. So am using ABG's guide services!

Quick thing to note:. Airport money changers at most airports are big scams, but the one at SP airport is especially bad. So if you have to change money at airport, recommend only changing enough to get you to a better money changer. Also, despite what I was told by several people in airport, o was unable to find any store selling sim cards.

[GoneFishin]

Since that thread is dead and some of you may do both cities, as I have, during your trip to S. America I want to share some tips I think will be helpful.

Local Forum is http://www.foroescortsar.com/.

The action is mostly incall but there are a few spots near Recoleta Cementary. Two bars, one called Dean & Dennys is an outside bar, girls hang at the tables waiting for you to invite for a drink. Prices were around 200 us back at your place or motel. The other is D'lino which is more of a bar / lounge / eatery, same pricing. Some will ask for more doubtful you will get less but depends on your Spanish and negotiating skills. These are normal places during the day and evening but around 11 pm the girls start filtering in. I usually went around midnight, plenty to choose from then.

Incall, most are independents but some are run more like brothels with different shift of girls. If the add says 24 hrs, brothel but if the girl states definite working hours, independent. I had luck with the folllowing websites. https://www.argentinasvip.com and http://www.soloindependientes.com.

The incall locations are spread across the city so you can search by neighborhood. I found several near my airbnb. Contact by whatsapp, most do this but not all, she will send you a template msg with pricing and hours. Once you agree on the date she will send you the address. Once at the address you reach out again via whatsapp and she will tell you the apt number. Some buildings you will push the callup bottom, others will have lobby person. With lobby security you tell them which apt your going and they will take info from your ID, so take some. The apts are working apts the girls don't live in them. Sometimes they share so ask to see her friends if any are there. Bathroom, towels, all standard stuff provided and the cost for hour service is generally around 2500 o 3000. I stayed away from any that asked for more.

Food I was not really impressed with, mostly american fast food, empanada places, pizza (only select varieties), lite-fare cafes, churipan (hot dogs with sausage rather than wieners), steak houses but do some homework on the cuts because they have there own varieties (ojo de befe) and how they described the cooking method (jugoso, punto, etc).

Its a interesting city, with its own style. I found it more European but with less diversity than you find in Europe. Mongering is there and the service is good. I'm not sure I would go back.

Final note, the Spanish they speak is definitely different. They pronounce the double L "ll" like a shhh sound. So calle will sound like the English word "cache". Llamar like Shhmar. Very wierd but when in Rome.

GF.

[World Travel 69]

I had to change the Accent mark:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chanes-57-Bar-Club/268683356905462


Rua dos Chanes, 57.

Website does not work (at least for me).

I would describe this place as more a bar with chicas and rooms then I would a club. No cover the two times I went. Once at 3 pm (Wed) the other at 9 pm (Thur). They have live band, Wed-Thur, and Karaoke on Fridays. Band starts early like 8 pm. Club is open till 2 am and closed Sunday but I was told if the party still going then they will stay open later. Some girls I saw earlier in the day were not there at night, so perhaps 2 shifts.

The bar area is upstairs, bathrooms, lounging (w / Air), outside seating areas were all decent but not upscale like a club. The sit down bar is small, mostly for serving, there are a few tv's and a decent pool table that looked free to use. Girls number are around 12 to 15 during the two shifts I was there. The rooms are downstairs, they are small and with a "bed" and bathroom with shower, hot water. Clean and my two rooms came with air. Chica prices depend on the hour, before 9 pm, 30 min /170 and HR /250. After 9 pm, 30 min /250 and HR /350 (in Reals). Drink prices are very reasonable, I bought myself 2 beers (cold) and one girl a beer it came out to 56 reals for the drinks total. I don't think the girls make commission here on drinks so no pushing to buy them.

You enter downstairs and ask the attendant for a slip a paper that they use to mark your purchases, including the girl. You tally up when you leave and pay here as well. The blonde lady I spoke to both days speaks some English. The owner is a chubby dude that was very welcoming to me and checked on me several times each visit. This is not a pretentious type of place. More like a local hangout vibe where you can enjoy your drink with a pretty girl and if you want it to go further rooms are downstairs. During the day, I saw the girls do presentations downstairs but not during the night. Both times I dressed in shorts and sandals and did not feel out of place.

Truth be told, I enjoy this type of place much more than the clubs with large selection of ladies. Just scanning the room I could immediately see 5 to 7 girls that were doable for me. With a smaller selection you don't feel the need to see every single girl before deciding. I could pretty much see all of them before taking 2 sips of my beer. The girls are mostly avg but some do stand out. They are all natural from what I can see and do not over apply the cosmetics. Most only port but have patience to translate on google with you. I found one that speaks English well, Natalie but she was one of the day girls. Have yet to see her at night. One girl spoke Spanish fairly well. The service was excellent, BBBJ and any position allowed, daty. They have condoms and I don't think I was charged for them. So if your not a heavy drinker (like me) you can enjoy some companionship in a bar like setting, drink some then do the deed all for around 100 us. These type of places are not really written about much on this thread. I'm not sure why. Maybe because the girl selection is smaller.

I will try and visit a more of these type places that have just been mentioned (thanks contributors) during my few days here and report.

GF.

[RedVBlue]

Thoughts on Scandallo vs. Bomboa vs. Bahamas Hotel Club? Any major differences between these? I'm going to be in SP for just a couple nights (Friday / Saturday / Sunday) so wondering which is best to check out during the weekend and if there's anything special that differentiates them from each other. Heard Scandallo and Bomboa are less busy on the weekends, but can't be helped since I'm not there during the week. Also heard Bahamas Hotel does lingerie days on Sunday, any more info on that?

I've previously been to SP, but only for a short time and just checked out Casarao and did a freelancer. Cheers!

[GoneFishin]

Rua Vergueiro, 170.

www.espacovergueiro.com.br

Visited 5 pm on a holiday Friday.

Tried this budget place today. Two blocks from the metro station Sao Joaguin on line 1. It has a gated door with call box. Buzz it and they will let you in. Bigger sit down bar than Chanes 57 and the place is more like a lounge with a more crisper modern vibe. Same process as the other bar, ask for paper slip for them to mark your purchases. It will be at the window to your left as you enter. Today is a holiday, so slim pickings. Only 5 girls, two I liked and chose my first morena of the trip. Nice natural boobs and tall, slender, English was passable. The rooms are bigger than Chanes 57, with bed, shower and air, they are downstairs. The beers are only R10 but the chica drinks are R35, no cover. It rained hard today so stayed here until is lightened up. Had 2 beers a water one chica drink and half hour service all for the budget price of R155. The pricing is on a board (not current pricing) in that cashier window area but she told me these were the prices. Before 9 pm 30 min /100, HR /150 and after 9 pm 30 min /120, HR /170. My morena stated usually there will be up to 15 girls at night and the club is open 11 am to 2 am all days except Sunday, busiest time around 11 pm. I'm guessing the girls here are avg types, all were natural and little makeup. These are not the places you go for girls that spend tons of money on their looks. I find these places more to my liking but I will go to the more expensive clubs as well to be more well rounded in SP. I'm glad there is a variety of action here. Some days I just want the local corner hookup joint. I can go as I am and no need to go through all the effort to look my best for the fancy clubs.

GF.

[Questner]

Thank you, GoneFishin on BA; here is another local, https://www.escortsxp.com/.

[AltoBomGosto]

To SP newbs: just got into SP and while I've been here before, it's my first time doing it myself. So am using ABG's guide services!

Quick thing to note:. Airport money changers at most airports are big scams, but the one at SP airport is especially bad. So if you have to change money at the airport, recommend only changing enough to get you to a better money changer. Also, despite what I was told by several people in airport, o was unable to find any store selling sim cards.To buy a SIM card you must have a CPF, the local Social Security number. During the World Cup, there were some boots who sold SIM cards to tourists but now, to my knowledge, the only place where you can buy them is TIM of Rua Barão de Itapetininga. Ore have some Brazilian friend buy one for you.

Does anybody have another idea?

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

Rua Vergueiro, 170.

www.espacovergueiro.com.br

Visited 5 pm on a holiday Friday.

Tried this budget place today. Two blocks from the metro station Sao Joaguin on line 1. It has a gated door with call box. Buzz it and they will let you in. Bigger sit down bar than Chanes 57 and the place is more like a lounge with a more crisper modern vibe. Same process as the other bar, ask for paper slip for them to mark your purchases. It will be at the window to your left as you enter. Today is a holiday, so slim pickings. Only 5 girls, two I liked and chose my first morena of the trip. Nice natural boobs and tall, slender, English was passable. The rooms are bigger than Chanes 57, with bed, shower and air, they are downstairs. The beers are only R10 but the chica drinks are R35, no cover. It rained hard today so stayed here until is lightened up. Had 2 beers a water one chica drink and half hour service all for the budget price of R155. The pricing is on a board (not current pricing) in that cashier window area but she told me these were the prices. Before 9 pm 30 min /100, HR /150 and after 9 pm 30 min /120, HR /170. My morena stated usually there will be up to 15 girls at night and the club is open 11 am to 2 am all days except Sunday, busiest time around 11 pm. I'm guessing the girls here are avg types, all were natural and little makeup. These are not the places you go for girls that spend tons of money on their looks. I find these places more to my liking but I will go to the more expensive clubs as well to be more well rounded in SP. I'm glad there is a variety of action here. Some days I just want the local corner hookup joint. I can go as I am and no need to go through all the effort to look my best for the fancy clubs.

GF.GF, ScoobieDiver and I went to EV right after you left, we arrived around 9 PM, your description of the place is absolutely accurate.

I like to go to more quieter places like EV and Chanes, were the music is not so loud and you can talk to the garotas in piece.

, not like Casarao, who, in my opinion, is a zoo, I hate loud music!

So if you think like me avoid Casarao and go to one of those two bars.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

Yesterday we went to TG, 28 girls on parade, Juju, and Suellen were our options, nice morenas, completas, DKF, BBBJ, and CIM.

ABG.

[GoneFishin]

Many reports on this club in forum so just my 2 cents. Visited Friday night (holiday) 1 am with ISG buddy.

Entrance you get a card to keep track of your purchases. The more modern version of the paper slip you get at the budget bars I mentioned earlier. R40 is cover all go to consumables or R20 for cover only if I understood correctly. This is a loud dance club atmosphere, ABG called it a zoo and I agree. Maybe our ages are showing. Chicas everywhere all shapes, sizes. Ground floor area is for dance floor and stripper show. It is the loudest here, I hung out mostly downstairs, alittle quieter with more room to move around. Sofas to rest on and scan the room. Maybe 50 girls, hard to count with all that moving around. You basically grab a girl you like to chat, grope, whatever until you seal the deal. From my observations, most of the ladies will entertain you for a short time and move on if you do not commit to further services. Understandable as they are working, my buddy found something he liked and vanished to explore further. I had already sessioned so was more in that, "I just got to have that" mode. I never got a hit, out of all those ladies, a few were standouts to me, most were avg to below avg but none gave me that, "you just can't pass this up" feeling. So left at 4 am, went out the door to my right, across the street is a decent Shwarma place.

GF.

[WyattEarp]

To buy a SIM card you must have a CPF, the local Social Security number. During the World Cup, there were some boots who sold SIM cards to tourists but now, to my knowledge, the only place where you can buy them is TIM of Rua Baro de Itapetininga. Ore have some Brazilian friend buy one for you.

Does anybody have another idea?In the past, I have bought one at the TIM shop on Avenida Paulista. It was a bit more money than just buying it from a kiosk, but obviously a must have now days. There was also more process with registering your passport, etc.

With government efforts to combat drug trafficking and other major crime, getting a SIM card in many countries has become more of a hassle. To make matters worse, the laws seem to be very fluid in many countries.

[Sperto]

To buy a SIM card you must have a CPF, the local Social Security number.I do have a CPF but I don't use when buying a TIM chip. I normally buy it in a place like Lojas Americanas and let them register / activate the card. It's also possible to activate buy yourself by phone, however it takes a lot of patience.

[Polyamorist]

Salaam.



Quick thing to note:. Airport money changers at most airports are big scams, but the one at SP airport is especially bad.Safra, what a joke these guys are. They have been given a monopoly at the airport and are charging 30-40% to sucker tourists. You read that right, 30-40%. So to get some local currency that leaves you with the option of putting your card into the GRU ATMs notorious for skimmer fraud. Awesome.

Bolsonaro's government said they want to encourage tourism. If they were serious the first thing they would do is clean up SP airport.


In the past, I have bought one at the TIM shop on Avenida Paulista. It was a bit more money than just buying it from a kiosk, but obviously a must have now days. There was also more process with registering your passport, etc.I remember I went to that TIM shop and the guy kept telling me I needed a CPF no matter how much I rolled my eyes at him. So I just went to their competitor next door and got a SIM there.



With government efforts to combat drug trafficking and other major crime, getting a SIM card in many countries has become more of a hassle. To make matters worse, the laws seem to be very fluid in many countries.There is so much more common sense in Portugal. No registration needed there.

None of this bureaucracy is ever going to stop determined criminals, it just hassles ordinary folk.

[GoneFishin]

Went today, Saturday, holiday weekend, local one (city birthday) not a national one. 2 pm and pretty dead. This holiday weekend is affecting some of the action. So check those holidays guys before you book your trip.

Arrived and only 5 girls present. As I left 2 more showed up. More guys than girls, most of the fellas just hanging out. Bought beer across the street. The guy even delivered some himself.

Picked one for a 30 min session before they all got ravaged. Cost R100. The hostess is very friendly and speaks some English. Rooms all budget basic setup. Bed, shower and air. Clean enough, I'v done it in far worse places.

Stopped by Chanes 57 also but was closed.

GF.

[ILuvThePussy]

In the past, I have bought one at the TIM shop on Avenida Paulista. It was a bit more money than just buying it from a kiosk, but obviously a must have now days. There was also more process with registering your passport, etc.

With government efforts to combat drug trafficking and other major crime, getting a SIM card in many countries has become more of a hassle. To make matters worse, the laws seem to be very fluid in many countries.I got a plan with google Fi, they provide data in basically every country for $10 a gb and after 6 gb ($60) its free up to 15 gb.

I did this because supposedly colombian phone carriers block your phone if you get a sim and don't register your phone, which I did not when I got a tigo sim several months ago. The google fi sim worked great in medellin. Had fast data everywhere. Not sure if it will be as effective in sp, but posts on other sites seem to say it does.

Its much easier for me to do this rather than just hope for the best and get a sim in other countries as data is so important now with uber, google maps, and messaging working girls.

[AltoBomGosto]

I do have a CPF but I don't use when buying a TIM chip. I normally buy it in a place like Lojas Americanas and let them register / activate the card. It's also possible to activate buy yourself by phone, however it takes a lot of patience.Sperto, are you talking of São Paulo or Rio?

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

Went today, Saturday, holiday weekend, local one (city birthday) not a national one. 2 pm and pretty dead. This holiday weekend is affecting some of the action. So check those holidays guys before you book your trip.

Arrived and only 5 girls present. As I left 2 more showed up. More guys than girls, most of the fellas just hanging out. Bought beer across the street. The guy even delivered some himself.

Picked one for a 30 min session before they all got ravaged. Cost R100. The hostess is very friendly and speaks some English. Rooms all budget basic setup. Bed, shower and air. Clean enough, I'v done it in far worse places.

Stopped by Chanes 57 also but was closed.

GF.GF, I was there last Friday, paid 150 reais and went up whit Thais Paranaense, a beautiful slim white girl from Curitiba, very GFE, excellent DFK, BBBJ, and CIM, gave her a tip for the excellent service. One hour 03 pops.

ABG.

[Nordico]

In the past, I have bought one at the TIM shop on Avenida Paulista. It was a bit more money than just buying it from a kiosk, but obviously a must have now days. There was also more process with registering your passport, etc.

With government efforts to combat drug trafficking and other major crime, getting a SIM card in many countries has become more of a hassle. To make matters worse, the laws seem to be very fluid in many countries.I bought mine at Claro store in Shopping Cidade de Sao Paulo on Avenida Paulista in Feb2018. The girl in the store activated the chip. No problems whatsoever.

[GoneFishin]

Visited Saturday night 1130 pm-stayed until 2 am, holiday weekend.

http://scandallolounge.com.br/

This place is king of chica clubs from all my travels so far. Feels more like a resort with the largest check-in counter I have seen, maybe on par with Las Vegas hotel / casinos. Ground floor is parking lot and entrance to check-in counter. They require ID for the card that keeps track of your purchases. R250 for entry and some for consumable, there were other options for entry. Go to elevator, up one floor to club. Main room has stage, bar and lots of seating, felt like strip club atmosphere. Upstairs has seating as well but no one up there.

Slow night I was told. Ratio 1:1 girls, guys and must of been the "B" team as I only saw one 9 in the whole lot. Maybe 70 or so girls. Many stated to me it was slow due to the holiday weekend. I would rate most girls 7's with only a few standouts and many below that. I was surprised to see any fuglies inside a club of this caliber but there were several. Cool and relaxing outside seating area, bar was closed there. Restaurant looks very upscale, hell the whole place is upscale. I can't fault them for the high entry fee as the quality of the place is superb.

Beers were R35, not sure about chica drinks as I did not purchase any. Girls were asking R600 to R800, for hour action in house. Rooms in house were R250, so right off the bat with entry, chica, room your over R1000 for hour service. Never went up so don't know about the rooms but I do not doubt they are quality ones.

My conclusion would be, if only here for a few nights to a week and have the money to splurge then enjoy a blowout, you should have a good time. I have to budget my fun money as it must last for trips of a month or more. Even with my budget travel, I felt it worth it to pay the entry and enjoy the place like you would a strip club back in the states. I had a connection with the only 9 for me called Luna, be warned, its very hard to walk away from some of these girls without partaking. I could have broke my bank for her and enjoyed every second of it. But the bigger head won the day, but just barely.

GF.

[ArmnHammer69]

Hi,

I was curious if their will still be lots of girls at Scandallo lounge during carnival? I have had some of the best nights of my life in Scandallo just want to know if it's worth a visit during carnival or dead?

[Turgid]

Went today, Saturday, holiday weekend, local one (city birthday) not a national one. 2 pm and pretty dead. This holiday weekend is affecting some of the action. So check those holidays guys before you book your trip.

Arrived and only 5 girls present. As I left 2 more showed up. More guys than girls, most of the fellas just hanging out. Bought beer across the street. The guy even delivered some himself.

Picked one for a 30 min session before they all got ravaged. Cost R100. The hostess is very friendly and speaks some English. Rooms all budget basic setup. Bed, shower and air. Clean enough, I'v done it in far worse places.

Stopped by Chanes 57 also but was closed.

GF.The hostess in Tangara is the most friendly I've met in any similar place in Latin America. I am in Medellin now, the girls in the casas are great but the reception is dismal.

[Steve 9696]

Visited Saturday night 1130 pm-stayed until 2 am, holiday weekend.

http://scandallolounge.com.br/

This place is king of chica clubs from all my travels so far. Feels more like a resort with the largest check-in counter I have seen, maybe on par with Las Vegas hotel / casinos. Ground floor is parking lot and entrance to check-in counter. They require ID for the card that keeps track of your purchases. R250 for entry and some for consumable, there were other options for entry. Go to elevator, up one floor to club. Main room has stage, bar and lots of seating, felt like strip club atmosphere. Upstairs has seating as well but no one up there.

Slow night I was told. Ratio 1:1 girls, guys and must of been the "B" team as I only saw one 9 in the whole lot. Maybe 70 or so girls. Many stated to me it was slow due to the holiday weekend. I would rate most girls 7's with only a few standouts and many below that. I was surprised to see any fuglies inside a club of this caliber but there were several. Cool and relaxing outside seating area, bar was closed there. Restaurant looks very upscale, hell the whole place is upscale. I can't fault them for the high entry fee as the quality of the place is superb.

Beers were R35, not sure about chica drinks as I did not purchase any. Girls were asking R600 to R800, for hour action in house. Rooms in house were R250, so right off the bat with entry, chica, room your over R1000 for hour service. Never went up so don't know about the rooms but I do not doubt they are quality ones.

My conclusion would be, if only here for a few nights to a week and have the money to splurge then enjoy a blowout, you should have a good time. I have to budget my fun money as it must last for trips of a month or more. Even with my budget travel, I felt it worth it to pay the entry and enjoy the place like you would a strip club back in the states. I had a connection with the only 9 for me called Luna, be warned, its very hard to walk away from some of these girls without partaking. I could have broke my bank for her and enjoyed every second of it. But the bigger head won the day, but just barely.

GF.Great report and captures the key ideas — it is very luxe and it's really about the club EXPERIENCE as much as the girls themselves. I was lucky to find my 9 quite quickly.

To complete the picture, the rooms are very nice but not as luxe say as Felina Barcelona or Penthouse Moscow. The best feature though is the little revolving bank door. You can call down and order drinks and they deliver them while you are suitably engaged. It adds to the King of the World feeling.

[GoneFishin]

http://www.bahamashotelclub.com.br/

Are. Dos Chanés, 571 (a few blocks from Chanes 57).

Visited Saturday around 11 pm then went to Scandalous, returned Sunday at 4 pm. Holiday weekend.

Entrance fee only was R110, they had other options more expensive with consumable included. I did not plan to stay long either time so went with just the cover charge option. They give you a wrist thing with number on it to keep track of your purchases. Much like the FKKs.

Its more spacious and upscale than Chanes 57 but with about 15 girls Saturday night and maybe 8 Sunday afternoon. Two of the girls Sunday I also saw at Chanes 57 during the week. I had sessioned with one of them. The entry people said I could leave and return same day without charge. Good option if you wanted to see the day and night shift of girls. As far as I know this is the only 24 HR chica place in town which includes Sunday. The setup is part spa, part lounge, part chica bar and rooms. Its not loud and has good lighting so you can see all the ladies clearly. It is right up my alley, slower pace, decent surroundings, medium selection of girls (small for alot of you), I could see again about 5 doable ladies for me before I took 2 sips of my beer. A couple of Venezuelans, so Spanish speaking and a couple of decent English speaking ladies in the mix as well. They have food, cigars, well stocked bar and pool table. Downstairs they have a sauna, steam baths. Use to have pool but now a fish pond. Locker rooms to change in with towels and several poker tables. Not sure if they are in use anymore. The main room has lots of seating, sofas, tables and a pool table.

Everyone really friendly. Went with a ISG buddy to check out Saturday night. We wanted to also see Scandalous so we shot a game of pool and a few beers and then left for the other club. I was enamored with a natural redhead named Flavia. Funny because we both pegged her for a Russian / Ukrainian girl. She is full Brazilian and speaks the best English I have yet heard here. I have fantasized about a natural redhead my whole life so wanted to secure a date with her so arranged to be first her next work day. Which was Sunday and since it seems its slow already due to the Holiday weekend and a Sunday, I set a time of 4 pm which is when she starts. Just as she said she was there getting ready to come to the floor when I arrived. Got a gatorade, redbull and we went on to the rooms.

Great service, I was so ready to jump on her the minute we showered. But she sensed that and slowed me down by wanting to do a strip dance for me. Then she places me on the bed lying down and is nude dancing above me straddled. _itch, I was full on caveman now. She does light kissing and a great BBBJ. She has that freckled unblemished white skin like most natural reds. No tattoos and is just a living doll. Give her oral to orgasm but is to sensitive to take any more. I love the ladies who can take wave upon wave of oral. I finally had enough and just bring her to the edge of the bed and do standing missionary the whole time admiring this beauty before me. She has a sweet fun disposition and hope to finish with her again outside the club. Time will tell.

The rooms are small but with beds and air, charges are as follows. Hour service was R600 for girl, you give to the girl and each one you negotiate price with and any specifics. Room was R130, beer R35, gatorade R18, redbull R39 and they do a 10% tax on the drinks perhaps food too (not sure did not have any). Its pricey as well but not as much as Scandalous. I like that it is in Moema which was my barrio during my stay in SP.

GF.

[Sperto]

Sperto, are you talking of So Paulo or Rio?

ABG.Rio de Janeiro, Fortaleza and Salvador.

[AltoBomGosto]

The hostess in Tangara is the most friendly I've met in any similar place in Latin America. I am in Medellin now, the girls in the casas are great but the reception is dismal.Susan is the name of the hostess! She speaks some English but is very patient with gringo customers trying to answer all doubts.

Today is Susan's day off so we were received by Amanda. I and my ISG fellow went respectively with Bell, a nice baiana and he went with Hellen a big boobs mulata. Both DFK, BBBJ, and CIM.

Tangara has the best line up of the clinicas on Sundays, Amanda also is very helpful to the foreign customers.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

Visited Saturday night 1130 pm-stayed until 2 am, holiday weekend.

http://scandallolounge.com.br/

This place is king of chica clubs from all my travels so far. Feels more like a resort with the largest check-in counter I have seen, maybe on par with Las Vegas hotel / casinos. Ground floor is parking lot and entrance to check-in counter. They require ID for the card that keeps track of your purchases. R250 for entry and some for consumable, there were other options for entry. Go to elevator, up one floor to club. Main room has stage, bar and lots of seating, felt like strip club atmosphere. Upstairs has seating as well but no one up there.

Slow night I was told. Ratio 1:1 girls, guys and must of been the "B" team as I only saw one 9 in the whole lot. Maybe 70 or so girls. Many stated to me it was slow due to the holiday weekend. I would rate most girls 7's with only a few standouts and many below that. I was surprised to see any fuglies inside a club of this caliber but there were several. Cool and relaxing outside seating area, bar was closed there. Restaurant looks very upscale, hell the whole place is upscale. I can't fault them for the high entry fee as the quality of the place is superb.

Beers were R35, not sure about chica drinks as I did not purchase any. Girls were asking R600 to R800, for hour action in house. Rooms in house were R250, so right off the bat with entry, chica, room your over R1000 for hour service. Never went up so don't know about the rooms but I do not doubt they are quality ones.

My conclusion would be, if only here for a few nights to a week and have the money to splurge then enjoy a blowout, you should have a good time. I have to budget my fun money as it must last for trips of a month or more. Even with my budget travel, I felt it worth it to pay the entry and enjoy the place like you would a strip club back in the states. I had a connection with the only 9 for me called Luna, be warned, its very hard to walk away from some of these girls without partaking. I could have broke my bank for her and enjoyed every second of it. But the bigger head won the day, but just barely.

GF.GF great report, I also never went to the bedrooms because every time I went there I was a wingman to a visitor. Your report is very accurate, I only wanted to add a little note informing Scandallo has a happy hour until 7 PM were the entrance costs 150 reais totally consumable. There is a fine restaurant on premises. I have had excellent meals there.

I usually use the time my gest is seasoning to chat with the girls.

[AltoBomGosto]

Susan is the name of the hostess! She speaks some English but is very patient with gringo customers trying to answer all doubts.

Today is Susan's day off so we were received by Amanda. I and my ISG fellow went respectively with Bell, a nice baiana and he went with Hellen a big boobs mulata. Both DFK, BBBJ, and CIM.

Tangara has the best line up of the clinicas on Sundays, Amanda also is very helpful to foreign customers.

ABG.The name of the mulata is Kelly.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

Susan is the name of the hostess! She speaks some English but is very patient with gringo customers trying to answer all doubts.

Today is Susan's day off so we were received by Amanda. I and my ISG fellow went respectively with Bell, a nice baiana and he went with Hellen a big boobs mulata. Both DFK, BBBJ, and CIM.

Tangara has the best line up of the clinicas on Sundays, Amanda also is very helpful to foreign customers.

ABG.The name of the mulata is Kelly.

ABG.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Another low-cost night club will be Muchachos Club, near Largo 13 in Santo Amaro. For 100 reais you get a nice service for half hour, girls are in a range to 5 / 6 but sometimes you can find real gems there!

Can't remember the entrance fee but must be not above 30 reais.

I went by car but you can go by metro, Google the address and find out. It's on the new Santo Amaro line.

ABG.Enjoy Spa is supposedly open until 2 AM weekdays, with 3-4 girls from my experience available at that time, so that may be another option.

[Steve 9696]

Thanks GF for the Bahamas review. I was tempted to try but I only had 1 night in SP proper and didn't want to risk a fail -- so I stuck w Sandalo and Casarao. But it sounds like a viable option, with an experience part to it which I like.

Unless Thifany and I are still a thing next time I visit (in which case she is traveling with me) I will be checking out Bahamas.

[Polyamorist]

Salaam, Fellow Fisher!


They require ID for the card that keeps track of your purchases.Wait, are you saying they actually ask to see your passport? That seems like terrible form for any club. And why would local businessmen give up their CPF's when the point is to get away from their wives as discreetly as possible?



I was surprised to see any fuglies inside a club of this caliber but there were several.I've had similar surprises at "elite" clubs all around the world. For example at Bomboa I've found some pretty girls but I've also had plain women over 40 sit down with me without being invited, pester me for tips, that kind of thing. I don't get the point of having them in the club, as they are just blocking the legitimate business of the nubile women.

Just my 2 dirhams.

[GoneFishin]

Salaam, Fellow Fisher!

Wait, are you saying they actually ask to see your passport? That seems like terrible form for any club. And why would local businessmen give up their CPF's when the point is to get away from their wives as discreetly as possible?
Yes, they ask for ID, my buddy had brought a photocopy of his passport. I had none with me, so they asked for CC but I only carry cash. Finally the girl let me just tell her my name. I do not know if this is allowed all the time with all the check-in personnel. I might just have been lucky due to it being a slow night and with a buddy. Did not want to lose 2 clients over ID. But again I would bring it next time to avoid the hassle but each to their own.

Another note on these 2 nightclubs, Scandalous and Bahamas, the girls are not allowed to bring cell phones out onto the floors. So they are concentrated more on showing you their wares and getting down to business, like the old days. Ha ha, some of you know what I mean.

GF.

[GoneFishin]

I wanted to share my thoughts about this area of town.

I stayed on the opposite side of Ave. Ibirapuera from the upscale shopping center. No action here, plenty of eateries, shops, one bank, open farmers type market on Bem Te-Vi which was open Wed but not all days of the week. So if anyone knows their days open please share. For extended stays I like to buy some fruit for the house. All the action in this area is behind the Shopping Center Ibirapuera. Next time I would stay here as to be within easy walking distance of all the offerings in the area. I still walked from my spot to all these places but during those heavy rain showers it would have been nice to be closer to home. A poncho or umbrella is necessary this time of year, Jan, due to the spring like showers that pop up in the afternoons. That can be intense. Blew the power out of my block for a time one day.

The big park Ibirapuera is worth a look. Near gate 4 is the bike rental facilities, need ID and the rate per hour is cheap. Go to the green tents. Must return bikes here. There are yellow bikes I saw for use like most city's are providing. Need a app, I suppose. I mostly walked.

Metro is easy and 2 stations, Line 5 for the area, Moema and Eucaliptos, they are new stations but be careful of the maps you consult as some do not show the line connecting to other lines. It does at Santa Cruz over to Line 1 and at Chcara Klabin over to Line 2. There are multiple types of transit cards to purchase at the ticket booth. I did not know the differences between them so just accepted the card the attendant gave me. The cards are positioned on the glass of the booth for you to scan over.

Lots of food choices in the area and a good live music club Bourbon Street. I did not get to visit but everyone I asked spoke highly about it. If you want quality churiscurria and budget price go to the food court at the mall. Across from the taco bell (yes they have one), is a nice setup. You pay by the weight, get the card with number so you can get several plates, weighing each one. It all gets added and you give the card to the waiter to bring you the bill. I had 3 meals here and loved each one.

The airport noise is not as bad it sounds. They quit operation near midnight I think or it slows down a bit so I never noticed during sleeping hours. It picks back up around 6 am, I think, I'm usually still out.

GF.

P.S., this should be my last entry in this thread, fly out tomorrow. I do recommend visiting SP, lots of variety of places to enjoy the game, quality food and entertainment. Curious thing, never ran across a movie cinema. Good public transportation, quality lodging for all budgets and most of all the service of the ladies is world class. All of course, IMHO.

[Larry David]

Hey GF,

Nice trip reports. Just wanted to touch on a couple of things from your Moema report.

First, the street markets. Here is a website that shows all of the markets in the city and when they are open:

https://www9.prefeitura.sp.gov.br/secretarias/sdte/pesquisa/feiras/

You mentioned cheap churrascaria at the mall. Most likely it is Mania as they are cheap and in every mall. They are cheap because they buy their meat from slaughter houses that have been fined for poor hygiene. The last time I ate at one there was a worm in my steak. Consider yourself lucky. Everyone else, you have been forewarned.

[Nordico]

open farmers type market on Bem Te-Vi which was open Wed but not all days of the week. So if anyone knows their days open please share. There is a "feira livre" on Sundays on Avenida Lavandisca and Alameda Jauaperi area.

[GoneFishin]

There is a "feira livre" on Sundays on Avenida Lavandisca and Alameda Jauaperi area.Yes, that is the one I was referring to, although this past Wed it was on Jauaperi and Bem Te-Vi. On Google maps is shows up as "Bem Te-Vi market". The market kinda makes a T with the two streets. Does anyone know the weekly schedule? It was not open last weekend perhaps due the local holiday.

[WyattEarp]

GF, I was there last Friday, paid 150 reais and went up whit Thais Paranaense, a beautiful slim white girl from Curitiba, very GFE, excellent DFK, BBBJ, and CIM, gave her a tip for the excellent service. One hour 03 pops.Three pops in one hour? I always got the impression you're a more mature gentleman.

What's you secret? Oysters, guava, farofa?

[Member #4732]

Yes, that is the one I was referring to, although this past Wed it was on Jauaperi and Bem Te-Vi. On Google maps is shows up as "Bem Te-Vi market". The market kinda makes a T with the two streets. Does anyone know the weekly schedule? It was not open last weekend perhaps due the local holiday.Wednesday.

[GoneFishin]

Hey GF,

Nice trip reports. Just wanted to touch on a couple of things from your Moema report.

First, the street markets. Here is a website that shows all of the markets in the city and when they are open:
https://www9.prefeitura.sp.gov.br/secretarias/sdte/pesquisa/feiras/
You mentioned cheap churrascaria at the mall. Most likely it is Mania as they are cheap and in every mall. They are cheap because they buy their meat from slaughter houses that have been fined for poor hygiene. The last time I ate at one there was a worm in my steak. Consider yourself lucky. Everyone else, you have been forewarned.Wow, thanks for the market info and headsup on the buffet place. They were always busy so it seemed like a popular place among the locals. No extra calories in my meat, gracias a dios.

[Melbranco]

Hi folks,

I have read most of the post as far back as 50 pages or so. As this is my first post and have not contributed anything to this forum. But I would be really appreciate if you guys share your wisdom and help me. I would write reports and share my experiences.

I am definitely going to Tangara, Casarao and also Scandallo. I love all kinds of women but I prefer a mature lade (age not more than 45), does not really need to be super hot but as long as it looks good, definitely not too fat.

Question 1, is there any chance I could find in Tangara and Casarao? Thanks in advance for answers.

I am thinking of going to Campinas to visit Moustache to pull out all night to my hotel?

Question 2, Is that worth to go just to Moustache? What is the best time to go to Moustache? 11 pm? Earlier than that? Or in the evening? Honesty, if I go to Fazandinha, it make brakes my bank, in other words, I do not have luxury of cash to spend.

Last question, I am really embarrassed to let people know that I have suffered premature ejaculations most of my adult life. Therefore, arranging an hour with working girls does not work for me as I always finish having sex under five minutes. To get to point, I prefer to take a girl to my hotel and pay for all night fee.

Is there any chance I could get lucky to find a gem in Casarao? Or better ask a phone number from Tangara girl and arrange to meet up outside? Please.

Thank you so much guys. It would be really appreciate if you could answer my questions. I will be sharing my experience to you guys.

[Polyamorist]

Last question, I am really embarrassed to let people know that I have suffered premature ejaculations most of my adult life. Therefore, arranging an hour with working girls does not work for me as I always finish having sex under five minutes.
Salaam, Mel, if you are dealing with a Brazilian beauty that would be two minutes. Basically you will cream your pants as soon as she DFKs you. The upside is that you can get 30 pops in the hour. My advice is to pay by time not by pop.



Is there any chance I could get lucky to find a gem in Casarao? Or better ask a phone number from Tangara girl and arrange to meet up outside? Please.Seriously though you might try one of the elite clinics like Oro Spa (evening is good). Tell them that all you want is a stern massage for the first 58 minutes. They are more likely to listen to your special needs than a mid-range clinica or any of those dangerously beautiful hustlers at Casarao.

If you are looking for an all-nighter, consider going to Bomboa (which includes some mature women to my chagrin), sit down, let the women approach you, and chat with them using Google Translate until you get one on your wavelength. Inshallah you can get her Whatsapp, and contact her later for an all-nighter.

[AltoBomGosto]

Three pops in one hour? I always got the impression you're a more mature gentleman.

What's you secret? Oysters, guava, farofa?One pill of GENERIC CIALIS.

[Ozzie1451]

Last question, I am really embarrassed to let people know that I have suffered premature ejaculations most of my adult life. Therefore, arranging an hour with working girls does not work for me as I always finish having sex under five minutes. To get to point, I prefer to take a girl to my hotel and pay for all night fee.

I buy generic viagra with Dapoxetine and it works great to delay premature ejaculation.

Dapoxetine, marketed as Priligy and Westoxetin among others, is a medication used for the treatment of premature ejaculation (PE) in men 1864 years old. Dapoxetine works by inhibiting the serotonin transporter, increasing serotonin's action at the post synaptic cleft, and as a consequence promoting ejaculatory delay.

[AltoBomGosto]

Hi folks,

I have read most of the post as far back as 50 pages or so. As this is my first post and have not contributed anything to this forum. But I would be really appreciate if you guys share your wisdom and help me. I would write reports and share my experiences.

I am definitely going to Tangara, Casarao and also Scandallo. I love all kinds of women but I prefer a mature lade (age not more than 45), does not really need to be super hot but as long as it looks good, definitely not too fat.

Question 1, is there any chance I could find in Tangara and Casarao? Thanks in advance for answers.

I am thinking of going to Campinas to visit Moustache to pull out all night to my hotel?

Question 2, Is that worth to go just to Moustache? What is the best time to go to Moustache? 11 pm? Earlier than that? Or in the evening? Honesty, if I go to Fazandinha, it make brakes my bank, in other words, I do not have luxury of cash to spend.

Last question, I am really embarrassed to let people know that I have suffered premature ejaculations most of my adult life. Therefore, arranging an hour with working girls does not work for me as I always finish having sex under five minutes. To get to point, I prefer to take a girl to my hotel and pay for all night fee.

Is there any chance I could get lucky to find a gem in Casarao? Or better ask a phone number from Tangara girl and arrange to meet up outside? Please.

Thank you so much guys. It would be really appreciate if you could answer my questions. I will be sharing my experience to you guys.I'll be glad to help you. Please PM me for details.

ABG.

[Larry David]

Melbranco,

Yes you can get numbers from girls and make arrangements for them to visit your apartment and some will spend the night. Go to casarão and get 5+ numbers. Ask how much to come over and how much to spend the night. Spend a little time talking with the girl first. Look for a good connection.

Same in Tangara. Get the number at the end of the session while in the room. This is girl dependent. Again, look for the connection. You're not paying for sex in the sense that the experience should not be a transaction. It's more like helping a friend who gets naked with you. The standard cost for extra at Tangara is R50. That might be CIM, or anal.

Scandallo is the place that will break your budget. Worth a visit and lists of hot chicks. If you can develop a good connection you can get one at a reasonable price.

Prices for spending the night. R250-600 is standard. I had one girl who was really into me, like wanting to live together and her price from the beginning was R250 per night. I have another one who is always asking for R700. I tell her I can pay R500. The Tangara girl visiting for an hour or two should only run R150-250. R250 is for at least two hours. Depending on the girl and the length of time, I might take her out to dinner. Again, think connection like you are dating. As someone once said, these girls aren't selling poontang, they're selling dreams.

Campinas. Never been, imagine the drive is quite long. Suppose you could fly, but what's the point? Everything you want besides the beach is in São Paulo.

[AltoBomGosto]

Melbranco,

Yes you can get numbers from girls and make arrangements for them to visit your apartment and some will spend the night. Go to casaro and get 5+ numbers. Ask how much to come over and how much to spend the night. Spend a little time talking with the girl first. Look for a good connection.

Same in Tangara. Get the number at the end of the session while in the room. This is girl dependent. Again, look for the connection. You're not paying for sex in the sense that the experience should not be a transaction. It's more like helping a friend who gets naked with you. The standard cost for extra at Tangara is R50. That might be CIM, or anal.

Scandallo is the place that will break your budget. Worth a visit and lists of hot chicks. If you can develop a good connection you can get one at a reasonable price.

Prices for spending the night. R250-600 is standard. I had one girl who was really into me, like wanting to live together and her price from the beginning was R250 per night. I have another one who is always asking for R700. I tell her I can pay R500. The Tangara girl visiting for an hour or two should only run R150-250. R250 is for at least two hours. Depending on the girl and the length of time, I might take her out to dinner. Again, think connection like you are dating. As someone once said, these girls aren't selling poontang, they're selling dreams.

Campinas. Never been, imagine the drive is quite long. Suppose you could fly, but what's the point? Everything you want besides the beach is in So Paulo.No sense to go to Campinas, Fazendinha is almost as expensive as is Scandallo, and the second one has a much better line up.

Learn some Portuguese in order to be able to maintain a conversation with the girls, almost none of the girls speak English.

[Steve 9696]

No sense to go to Campinas, Fazendinha is almost as expensive as is Scandallo, and the second one has a much better line up.

Learn some Portuguese in order to be able to maintain a conversation with the girls, almost none of the girls speak English.I agree on all counts. I only was In Campinas on business and got lucky with hits at both Moustache and Fazendinha, but I wouldn't drive there exclusively for that. I mean if you want a change of pace and some adventure sure its a nice city. But would not go for girls only. SP is plenty target rich.

And definitely learn some Portuguese. It's a lot of fun the girls are so impressed you bothered that it really breaks the ice. If u had either high school French or Spanish it’s not very hard.

[AltoBomGosto]

At Tangara, 35 garotas, choose Rosana, nice 22 yo mulatinha, nice afro Brazilian face, big tits, she is lactating, nice apple butt!

Very good DFK, then BBBJ and CIM, didn't ask but I gave her 20 reais for excellent performance in CIM. Swallowed all cum!

Better call before and make sure she's available, some days she takes off to nourish her baby.

ABG.

[Sparky17]

I am a member on the USASG site. Visiting Indaiatuba for a week in the next few weeks. Based on reading the forum, I have been checking on the photoencompantes website. Any other website or social media sites I need to check out? I seen a Campinas board as well but not much info there. Any help is appreciated. TIA.

[ScoobieDiver]

Hi fellas,

I just got back after a few days seeing the city with AltoBomGosta, and had a blast in Sao Paulo. I'll share my impressions of the city, the several places he took me to and why his guide services are so important. First, Sao Paulo is a busy city where the different places to go for fun are very spread out. There's no district like Soi Cowboy to speak of, so it's hard to know how to get to the different places you'd want to check out. Also, very few people speak any English at all, and this includes the women, restaurant workers, shopping centers, etc. So unless you know the language, you're going to have a very difficult time finding places and speaking with people about even basic things.

ABG took me to a few places, each with a different personality and pricing. Tangara is clearly his favourite. For me, the hourly pricing of R180 was a great deal. Lots of great selection. If you want a better selection, get there earlier in the day, say around lunch time. If you get there after 3 pm, the selection is not as good and there's a lot of dudes hanging around for what seems like no reason at all. Enjoy Spa is a little fancier, with nice rooms, nice waiting area, and no dudes just hanging around. I think the hourly rate was R250. I liked Tangara but personally, it was second to Enjoy, where the women were more dressed up and made up. But in reality, the women at Enjoy also spend a day or two working at Tangara, but are a little less dressed up and made up when at Tangara. I think Sunday is a day where many from other places show up. He also took me to Miruna, but I did not find the selection as good as either Tangara or Enjoy. Miruna's pricing is about halfway between Tangara and Enjoy.

OK, here's the important tip: spend your money wisely by taking up ABG's guide services. This guy is fun to talk to and helps you learn about the country, but more importantly, he saves you time, money and provides great recommendations on who to choose. He helps negotiate in Portuguese, which is essential. He also drives you around! And because they know him at the places, you end up getting better service than a one-time gringo visiting for few days only. Basically, ABG has invested tons of his own time and money over many years to know the scene and the women. So you can benefit from that. Now if you have a car in town, speak the language and have three months in Sampa to try different places and women, you probably don't need him. For everyone else, you will have a way more enjoyable time with him. I will use him the next time I am there again. This is not me trying to advertise for him. I simply cannot imagine having anywhere near as good a time had I tried to learn without him. ABG. Thanks a lot, brother!

[AltoBomGosto]

I am a member on the USASG site. Visiting Indaiatuba for a week in the next few weeks. Based on reading the forum, I have been checking on the photoencompantes website. Any other website or social media sites I need to check out? I seen a Campinas board as well but not much info there. Any help is appreciated. TIA.There is a whole neighborhood of HO hoses called Jardim Itatinga, between Viracopos Airport and Campinas. Best way to know it is to have some Brazilian guide to drive you there (a friendly cab driver also may work OK). There must be more than a 100 casas, from all kinds of prices, there are also street walkers. But the majority are low profile Bordellos.

It has been more than 10 years that I haven't been there so I cannot recommend any particular casa. Although there is a police patrol always circulating, if you don't speak reasonable Portuguese you might get in trouble, news has been displayed showing

tourist being robbed there.

My advice is pick up a Cometa bus in Campinas to Sao Paulo They depart every 15 minutes, and go to a good clinic, at the moment Tangara has the best cast and English speaking receptionists.

Please. PM me for more details.

ABG.

[Steve 9696]

I am a member on the USASG site. Visiting Indaiatuba for a week in the next few weeks. Based on reading the forum, I have been checking on the photoencompantes website. Any other website or social media sites I need to check out? I seen a Campinas board as well but not much info there. Any help is appreciated. TIA.As you say Campinas board is dead. Had to do all the research myself. If you have a moderate budget (say US $200-300) you can have a great time at Fazendinha www.fazendinha.com. It's about a 30 minute ride from where you are. They have a shuttle that picks up in Campinas. They would probably come to you. Contact the owner on Whatsapp -- they are very good to work with.

Fazendinha is a large property (the name means little farm) that includes a Boate and onsite rooms. This is where I met the famous Thifany and also had a duo with her friend. Entry is R200 all consumable. Girls are generally R300-R500 and room is maybe R150.

Full disclosure I spent US$500 but I had a whale of a time over a 5 hour period.

[ScoobieDiver]

Hi fellas,

I just got back after a few days seeing the city with AltoBomGosta, and had a blast in Sao Paulo. I'll share my impressions of the city, the several places he took me to and why his guide services are so important. First, Sao Paulo is a busy city where the different places to go for fun are very spread out. There's no concentrated district like Soi Cowboy to speak of, so it's hard to know how to get to the different places you'd want to check out. Also, very few people speak any English at all, and this includes the women, restaurant workers, shopping centers, etc. So unless you know the language, you're going to have a very difficult time finding places and speaking with people about even basic things.

ABG took me to a few places, each with a different personality and pricing. Tangara is clearly his favorite. For me, the hourly pricing of R180 was a great deal. Lots of great selection. If you want a better selection, get there earlier in the day, say around lunch time. If you get there after 3 pm, the selection is not as good and there's a lot of dudes hanging around for what seems like no reason at all. Enjoy Spa is a little fancier, with nicer rooms, nicer waiting area, and no dudes that seem to just hang around. I think the hourly rate was R250. I liked Tangara but personally, I like Enjoy's environment more, where the women were more dressed up and made up. But in reality, the women at Enjoy also spend a day or two working at Tangara, but are a little less dressed up and made up when at Tangara. I think Sunday is a day where many from other places show up. He also took me to Miruna, but I did not find the selection as good as either Tangara or Enjoy. Miruna's women do not seem to also work at Tangara, and its pricing is about halfway between Tangara and Enjoy.

Here's the important tip: spend your money wisely by taking up ABG's guide services. This guy is fun to talk to and helps you learn about the country, but more importantly, he saves you time, money and provides great recommendations on who to choose (seriously, his recommendations turned out to be really fantastic with the service). He helps negotiate in Portugese, which is essential. He also drives you around to all the different places! And because they know him at the places, you end up getting better service than a one-time gringo visiting for few days only would. He doesn't rush you on anything as he simply enjoys the scene too. Basically, ABG has invested tons of his own time and money over many years to know the scene and the women. So being able to benefit from that is of tremendous practical value. Now if you have a car in town, speak the language and have three months in Sampa to try many different places and many different women, you might not need him. For everyone else, I believe you need him and will also have a way more enjoyable time with him. I will use him the next time I am there again. This is not me trying to advertise for him. I simply cannot imagine having anywhere near as good a time had I tried to learn without him. ABG. Thanks a lot, brother!

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Snip. ABG took me to a few places, each with a different personality and pricing. Tangara is clearly his favorite. For me, the hourly pricing of R180 was a great deal. Lots of great selection. If you want a better selection, get there earlier in the day, say around lunch time. If you get there after 3 pm, the selection is not as good and there's a lot of dudes hanging around for what seems like no reason at all. Enjoy Spa is a little fancier, with nicer rooms, nicer waiting area, and no dudes that seem to just hang around. I think the hourly rate was R250. I liked Tangara but personally, I like Enjoy's environment more, where the women were more dressed up and made up. Snip.The price at Tangara was 150/ hour and at Enjoy it was 200/ hour (for posters on gp-guia.net or forumcutuca.com it was 180/ HR) when I was there in November. Per forumcutuca.com, those were still the prices as of mid-January (with some posters there reporting paying 160/ HR at Enjoy Spa). Why did you pay more, especially since you were there with ABG, who should know the prices?

[Sparky17]

I agree on all counts. I only was In Campinas on business and got lucky with hits at both Moustache and Fazendinha, but I wouldn't drive there exclusively for that. I mean if you want a change of pace and some adventure sure its a nice city. But would not go for girls only. SP is plenty target rich.

And definitely learn some Portuguese. It's a lot of fun the girls are so impressed you bothered that it really breaks the ice. If u had either high school French or Spanish its not very hard.Thank Steve and ABG. ABG I am not Senior yet. I wish I would have stayed another night in Sao Paola. We still might come a day earlier on departure. If so I will keep you posted.

Saw your other posts Steve. I might check it out. How was the English there?

[Polyamorist]

The price at Tangara was 150/ hour and at Enjoy it was 200/ hour (for posters on gp-guia.net or forumcutuca.com it was 180/ HR) when I was there in November. Per forumcutuca.com, those were still the prices as of mid-January (with some posters there reporting paying 160/ HR at Enjoy Spa). Why did you pay more, especially since you were there with ABG, who should know the prices?Salaam. Enjoy charged me 240/ hour. Apparently locals can get 160/ hour -- as long as they give up their anonymity and agree to post positive reviews of the club. Actually prices seem to be all over the place. There is one constant though: gringos will always pay more!

When I went to Enjoy Spa, I had an awful experience, quite unlike the other clinicas. The girl at Enjoy didn't really want to do anything at all. It was so bad I had to abandon the session, which I never do. At reception I explained politely what had happened: then a pimp-like character -- apparently the owner -- emerged and started insulting me wildly! I was absolutely gobsmacked. I go back a long way with Brazil and consider it a pretty gringo-friendly country but there is a seriously anti-gringo vibe at Enjoy Spa. The receptionist looked miserable, like this happens a lot and she wished she was working somewhere else. There were no other customers, so I guess the locals know well enough to AVOID Enjoy Spa.

I know this post will annoy some long-time posters on this thread but the truth needs to get out to newbies: there are about ten other clinicas within 1 km of Enjoy where you can get much better service, and all without paying a gringo price, or paying a local or guide for "protection". Just scroll through this thread to find them.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Salaam. Enjoy charged me 240/ hour. Apparently locals can get 160/ hour -- as long as they give up their anonymity and agree to post positive reviews of the club. Actually prices seem to be all over the place. There is one constant though: gringos will always pay more!

When I went to Enjoy Spa, I had an awful experience, quite unlike the other clinicas. The girl at Enjoy didn't really want to do anything at all. It was so bad I had to abandon the session, which I never do. At reception I explained politely what had happened: then a pimp-like character -- apparently the owner -- emerged and started insulting me wildly! I was absolutely gobsmacked. I go back a long way with Brazil and consider it a pretty gringo-friendly country but there is a seriously anti-gringo vibe at Enjoy Spa. The receptionist looked miserable, like this happens a lot and she wished she was working somewhere else. There were no other customers, so I guess the locals know well enough to AVOID Enjoy Spa.

I know this post will annoy some long-time posters on this thread but the truth needs to get out to newbies: there are about ten other clinicas within 1 km of Enjoy where you can get much better service, and all without paying a gringo price, or paying a local or guide for "protection". Just scroll through this thread to find them.I look as gringo as they come and I have never had an issue at Enjoy, either with the pricing, the service, or the management, although I get by with Portunol and they know I am a member of gp-guia and forumcutuca.

However, even if ScoobieDiver was a gringo who didn't speak Portuguese and was not a member of those forums, he was with ABG, a known local, who should have gotten him the non-gringo price.

[The Cane]

When I went to Enjoy Spa, I had an awful experience, quite unlike the other clinicas. The girl at Enjoy didn't really want to do anything at all. It was so bad I had to abandon the session, which I never do. At reception I explained politely what had happened: then a pimp-like character -- apparently the owner -- emerged and started insulting me wildly! I was absolutely gobsmacked. I go back a long way with Brazil and consider it a pretty gringo-friendly country but there is a seriously anti-gringo vibe at Enjoy Spa. The receptionist looked miserable, like this happens a lot and she wished she was working somewhere else. There were no other customers, so I guess the locals know well enough to AVOID Enjoy Spa.

I know this post will annoy some long-time posters on this thread but the truth needs to get out to newbies: there are about ten other clinicas within 1 km of Enjoy where you can get much better service, and all without paying a gringo price, or paying a local or guide for "protection". Just scroll through this thread to find them.I'm sorry you had such a bad experience at Enjoy. I went there as a Sampa newbie and had quite a good experience as far as the clinicas go. I literally enjoyed Enjoy Spa! Seeing that I was mostly disappointed with the whole clinica experience, I want to speak up for one of the few establishments where I felt I personally had a decent experience. I suppose YMMV, but I had a good time and the staff and girls were pleasant enough to me. I would therefore recommend Enjoy Spa.

[Member #4732]

I look as gringo as they come and I have never had an issue at Enjoy, either with the pricing, the service, or the management, although I get by with Portunol and they know I am a member of gp-guia and forumcutuca.

However, even if ScoobieDiver was a gringo who didn't speak Portuguese and was not a member of those forums, he was with ABG, a known local, who should have gotten him the non-gringo price.I find this whole "gringo price" stuff to be ridiculous. The prices are usually posted on a placard in full view or on a card that reception will show if asked. I know in Brooklin for example they are on a placard right on the wall by the reception. The posted prices are usually the "non-forista" price. There is no gringo price. There is just a "regular" price and a "forista" price (Tangara excepted, to be explained). Forista (as in 'those who post TDs in the gp-guia forum) is the discount price, which some here may mistakenly refer to as the "local" price. Calling it the "local" price is a misnomer. There are many locals who do not get the forista discount because they do not post on the forum. Likewise, most gringos, pay the 'regular" price because they too do not post on the forum. So there is regular and forista. That is it. There is no "gringo" price. There may be misunderstanding. I have read several reports over the years on this board where guys complain of being overcharged and "gringo'd" but in most cases that I have read, when one reads all the details there was a misunderstanding of the house rules, re entrances and consumption, or time limits etc.

The only place I ever heard of that had a legitimate rip off policy was a boate called Romanza which was notorious for silently padding the bill and overcharging drunk customers. And they paid taxi drivers to bring them tourists. They were a true clip joint. But the clinicas? Not in my experience. Just regular price and forista price. That is all you need to know to ask about. Vani's places like Tangara and Espaco Vergeiro and Redway do not offer a forista price, they only offer a "regular" price. They compensate by having a fidelity program where you get a card punched for every visit and after so many visits you get 1/2 price or full price discount.

Cheers.

[Member #4732]

So we have recently had two reviews complaining and suggesting guys avoid Moema Prime and enjoy. All I can say is, its a shame the guys who visited had bad experiences, but as someone who knows these places well, there is absolutely no reason for readers of this forum to "avoid" those places. Misunderstandings can happen anywhere in Brazil if you are not fluent in Portuguese. The women who work in the places are human, some are better than others, some are tired at the end of the day. One guy's negative experience should not be taken as the definitive reason for others to avoid a place. If there is a consensus of bad reports, then sure, that will be something to pay attention to.

[AltoBomGosto]

I look as gringo as they come and I have never had an issue at Enjoy, either with the pricing, the service, or the management, although I get by with Portunol and they know I am a member of gp-guia and forumcutuca.

However, even if ScoobieDiver was a gringo who didn't speak Portuguese and was not a member of those forums, he was with ABG, a known local, who should have gotten him the non-gringo price.Do Does anybody know the names of the girl and the guy who mistreated you? Although management has changed there Scooby Diver and I were well treated at Enjoy.

Enjoy and most of the clinicas have a discount if you report your experience in the GP GUIA forum, as is the case of Jimmy Boy. There is no such thing as a gringo price. If you became a member of the GP GUIA and have posted you will be entitled to the discount too. But tell the receptionist that you are a GP GUIA member, she will check your post before you go up with a girl. Then you have the discount. If you are a member check on the GP GUIA the discounts each house grants. Some houses will accept Forum Cutuca reports also.

Any question please PM me!

ABG.

[Larry David]

What's up with that? When did the price increase another R30 per hour, or did that include a tip for the girl?

If rates really went up, then how much is 1/2 hour?

Tangara has been 100/150 for as long as I remember. Of course I'm not counting extra to the girls for extra services.

[AltoBomGosto]

The price at Tangara was 150/ hour and at Enjoy it was 200/ hour (for posters on gp-guia.net or forumcutuca.com it was 180/ HR) when I was there in November. Per forumcutuca.com, those were still the prices as of mid-January (with some posters there reporting paying 160/ HR at Enjoy Spa). Why did you pay more, especially since you were there with ABG, who should know the prices?Price of Tangara is 150 reais cash.

ABG.

[Member #4732]

So we have recently had two reviews complaining and suggesting guys avoid Moema Prime and enjoy. All I can say is, its a shame the guys who visited had bad experiences, but as someone who knows these places well, there is absolutely no reason for readers of this forum to "avoid" those places. Misunderstandings can happen anywhere in Brazil if you are not fluent in Portuguese. The women who work in the places are human, some are better than others, some are tired at the end of the day. One guy's negative experience should not be taken as the definitive reason for others to avoid a place. If there is a consensus of bad reports, then sure, that will be something to pay attention to.I also meant to point out that the prices in the clinicas are subject to change over time. Prices reported on this forum are often out of date. Some places lower their prices for a season, then raise them the next season, which may contribute to visitors expecting the price they read about in a report that is now out of date. The best strategy is to ask up front about the price, make it clear how much time you want to stay in the room - 1/2 hour or 1 hour. Write down the question on a piece of paper if necessary to present to the reception. If you are not quoted the price you want or expect, then leave before going to the room. Quite simple really.

[Turgid]

Salaam. Enjoy charged me 240/ hour. Apparently locals can get 160/ hour -- as long as they give up their anonymity and agree to post positive reviews of the club. Actually prices seem to be all over the place. There is one constant though: gringos will always pay more!

When I went to Enjoy Spa, I had an awful experience, quite unlike the other clinicas. The girl at Enjoy didn't really want to do anything at all. It was so bad I had to abandon the session, which I never do. At reception I explained politely what had happened: then a pimp-like character -- apparently the owner -- emerged and started insulting me wildly! I was absolutely gobsmacked. I go back a long way with Brazil and consider it a pretty gringo-friendly country but there is a seriously anti-gringo vibe at Enjoy Spa. The receptionist looked miserable, like this happens a lot and she wished she was working somewhere else. There were no other customers, so I guess the locals know well enough to AVOID Enjoy Spa.

I know this post will annoy some long-time posters on this thread but the truth needs to get out to newbies: there are about ten other clinicas within 1 km of Enjoy where you can get much better service, and all without paying a gringo price, or paying a local or guide for "protection". Just scroll through this thread to find them.I stated in an earlier post that Tangara had the most friendly receptionist I have met in Latin America and I must say now that Enjoy has the worst receptionist I have encountered in all of Latin America; now add to this the overcharging. Enjoy used to have very nice girls in some of my previous visits but in my last visit to SP last year I found the talent had fallen off significantly, although I did encounter the best looking girl there in one of my visits. Nevertheless generally the talent was significantly less than in previous years. I'm not sure whether general receipt of less revenue might be responsible for the overcharging.

[Member #4732]

I stated in an earlier post that Tangara had the most friendly receptionist I have met in Latin America and I must say now that Enjoy has the worst receptionist I have encountered in all of Latin America; now add to this the overcharging. Enjoy used to have very nice girls in some of my previous visits but in my last visit to SP last year I found the talent had fallen off significantly, although I did encounter the best looking girl there in one of my visits. Nevertheless generally the talent was significantly less than in previous years. I'm not sure whether general receipt of less revenue might be responsible for the overcharging.Sigh. Whatever the staff looked like when you visited last year, it is unlikely that has any relevance to the current talent. The constant turnover is the only constant. From month to month, week to week and day to day, the impression people get is going to vary widely depending on who shows up for work, who is currently attending clients in the rooms, and the eye of the beholder. I have no doubt that several guys go to the same location on a given day and they call come away with divergent opinions on the "talent level".

There is also no evidence that there is any systematic overcharging going on. This is like some sort of mini-panic on this board.

[Member #4732]

I stated in an earlier post that Tangara had the most friendly receptionist I have met in Latin America and I must say now that Enjoy has the worst receptionist I have encountered in all of Latin America; now add to this the overcharging. Enjoy used to have very nice girls in some of my previous visits but in my last visit to SP last year I found the talent had fallen off significantly, although I did encounter the best looking girl there in one of my visits. Nevertheless generally the talent was significantly less than in previous years. I'm not sure whether general receipt of less revenue might be responsible for the overcharging.I also suspect that the receptionist you are referring to from Enjoy is not even the one that currently works there. There was a unpleasant bitchy receptionist there, a tall blonde woman, who worked there for a long time. But Enjoy changed ownership sometime after Moema Prime opened in 2018, and the reception that is at Enjoy now is not the same as was there before the ownership change in 2018.

[Steve 9696]

Thank Steve and ABG. ABG I am not Senior yet. I wish I would have stayed another night in Sao Paola. We still might come a day earlier on departure. If so I will keep you posted.

Saw your other posts Steve. I might check it out. How was the English there?The English is lacking even in high end clubs. At Scandalo it seemed a bit lacking luckily Karina had studied 10 mos English. At Fazendinha I only hit on and scored Thifany was good I had some Portugus. We made it work. Think English will be limited but don't let it stop you. You can figure it out. But I really recommend Pimsleur Portuguese. It's all audio. You can do it on your commute.

Thinking back now, I did the duo with Thifany and Maria just because I was trying to make small talk in my limited Português. “Do you have any friends at the club” and an epic duo ensued. Likewise you probably didn’t read about my Thifany saga since it was back in August. But in brief she spent a week in London with me based solely on our 5 hours together at Fazendinha. I am certain that would never have happened if I was just another English speaking Gringo. And really it couldn’t have worked otherwise. Our first dinner together in London (her birthday!) was only possible because of her broken English and my broken Português. And Google translate when we both came up empty. None of this would have happened without my minor investment.

Ps I’ve written up the whole Thifany story. Much too long to post here. PM me with a safe email address for u and I will send it.

[Polyamorist]

I have never had an issue at Enjoy, either with the pricing, the service, or the management, although I get by with Portunol and they know I am a member of gp-guia and forumcutuca.Al-salaam Habibby Jimmy and Peace upon your Flock.

I don't doubt it is possible to have a good experience at Enjoy Spa if you are buddies with the manager and regularly post good reviews on the local forums that he can tie to you. But I think the great Silent Majority of mongers reading this thread will be casual fly-ins, and they will be wondering: how can they get good service without going to all that effort, without becoming one of Enjoy Spa's Army of Yes Men?

Call me old-fashioned but I believe all mongers should receive equal treatment if they put their money down.

Miruna's and Tangara are better. I would recommend avoiding Moema Prime (sorry Rovnak). But the real talent is in the high-end places, so I guess in that respect at least I am in agreement with Mr Cane -- though for me it is not so much about optics but the fact that they screen the girls better.

Just my 2 dirhams.

[Member #4732]

Al-salaam Habibby Jimmy and Peace upon your Flock.

I don't doubt it is possible to have a good experience at Enjoy Spa if you are buddies with the manager and regularly post good reviews on the local forums that he can tie to you. But I think the great Silent Majority of mongers reading this thread will be casual fly-ins, and they will be wondering: how can they get good service without going to all that effort, without becoming one of Enjoy Spa's Army of Yes Men?

Call me old-fashioned but I believe all mongers should receive equal treatment if they put their money down.

Miruna's and Tangara are better. I would recommend avoiding Moema Prime (sorry Rovnak). But the real talent is in the high-end places, so I guess in that respect at least I am in agreement with Mr Cane -- though for me it is not so much about optics but the fact that they screen the girls better.

Just my 2 dirhams.Honestly, I know you guys are trying to be helpful to the readers but these "opinions" but I cannot disagree more strongly with the characterizations of these establishments that are based on one or two visits at a particular time. I think it is actually a disservice to suggest that visitors "skip" certain places. Unless there is a strong pattern of poor service. And there is not strong pattern. Every guy reports different favorite locations because everyone here has their own tastes and as I cannot repeat often enough, though it seems very few people "get it" - the turnover in these places make last month's report already obsolete. Guys session with one girl and she is lazy and they want to write off the clinica? That's just irrational.

I don't even understand your comment about the high end places "screening the girls better". On what is this based other than wishful thinking? I know plenty of guys that have had their worst experiences of the trip at the high end boates, and I am not talking about price, just pure disappointment int he bedroom.

[ScoobieDiver]

Honestly, I know you guys are trying to be helpful to the readers but these "opinions" but I cannot disagree more strongly with the characterizations of these establishments that are based on one or two visits at a particular time. I think it is actually a disservice to suggest that visitors "skip" certain places. Unless there is a strong pattern of poor service. And there is not strong pattern. Every guy reports different favorite locations because everyone here has their own tastes and as I cannot repeat often enough, though it seems very few people "get it" - the turnover in these places make last month's report already obsolete. Guys session with one girl and she is lazy and they want to write off the clinica? That's just irrational.I totally agree with Rovnak here. Any persons traveling there for the first time (or even second) should try a bunch of different places. Everyone has different preferences and different tastes. Different people will also fit in better at different places and with different people. So try a few different places and make up your own mind as to what you like the best.

[ScoobieDiver]

In fact, truth be told, I didn't really like Tangara when I went at about 4 pm the first time. My second visit on a Sunday just after lunch time made me like it a lot more. So maybe try some places twice before forming your own opinion.

[AltoBomGosto]

I went there yesterday, 37 girls, choose Marie, nice looking morena, GFE, DFK, BBBJ & CIM. 100 reais = 1/2 hour.

The second round went with Annie, nice mulata, DFK, BBBJ & CIM. Excellent performance. 100 reias = 1/2 hour.

Tangara's prices ate the same for board members and non-board members. 150 reais 1 hour and 100 1/2 hour. I always pay cash, but I know there is a surcharge if you pay with a credit card, I think is 20 reais. Ask first.

Susan and Takuma, the receptionist both speak English.

ABG.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Al-salaam Habibby Jimmy and Peace upon your Flock.

I don't doubt it is possible to have a good experience at Enjoy Spa if you are buddies with the manager and regularly post good reviews on the local forums that he can tie to you. But I think the great Silent Majority of mongers reading this thread will be casual fly-ins, and they will be wondering: how can they get good service without going to all that effort, without becoming one of Enjoy Spa's Army of Yes Men?
Snip.Thanks for enrolling me in Enjoy's Army of Yes Men but I must decline the invitation, as I do not give good reviews to get a discount on the price. Perhaps I am very lucky, as I have always had excellent sessions at clinicas and prives like Enjoy, Miruna, Nova Ceci, Espacio Morumbi, Brooklin, Tangara, Cancionero, and Vani's Way, but I did have an awful session with a Carioca at Muchachos Club.

[Member #4732]

Thanks for enrolling me in Enjoy's Army of Yes Men but I must decline the invitation, as I do not give good reviews to get a discount on the price. Perhaps I am very lucky, as I have always had excellent sessions at clinicas and prives like Enjoy, Miruna, Nova Ceci, Espacio Morumbi, Brooklin, Tangara, Cancionero, and Vani's Way, but I did have an awful session with a Carioca at Muchachos Club.That guy does not know what he is talking about. He extrapolates from one visit, ridiculous. Furthermore he knows nothing about the forista discount policies. The discount policies are predicated on the client giving a review. Positive, negative or neutral. That point should be emphasized. Positive OR negative OR neutral. It does not matter which, any review is a qualifier for discount. So his whole yes men theory is completely wrong. The casas use the reviews not just for free marketing but for qualty control, providers that receive multiple negative reviews do not last long. This further undermines his totally unfounded claim that the higher price places, I assume he is referring to the boates like Scandalo, screen the girls better. Absolutely wrong. Itis precisely the review system employed by the clinicas or direct feedback to reception at places like Tangara that ensure quality and customer satisfaction. The big boates do not give a crap about the performance of the ladies, not one bit. They do not rely on reviews and they do not solicit feedback, nor do they care if you complain. They just do not care at all. They screen at most, if at all, for looks, nothing more.

His entire rant was full of misinformation and does more harm than good to visitors who are trying to understand their options.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Announcement on gp-guia.net by Chanes 57.

OLA AMIGOS DO GPGUIA!

DESDE SEGUNDA FEIRA, 21/01, A chanés ESTA PRATICANDO NOVOS PREÇOS PROMOCIONAIS PARA O GPGUIA!

ATENDIMENTO DE 1 HORA: 200,00 (PAGAMENTO them DINHEIRO).

ATENDIMENTO DE 1/2 HORA:'160,00 (PAGAMENTO DE DINHEIRO).

E AGORA NOSSO PLANO DE MILHAGEM E O MELHOR DE TODOS.

A CADA 4 ATENDIMENTOS, O 5 o ATENDIMENTO É 100% VIP!

DESSA FORMA O ATENDIMENTO DE 1 HORA SAI POR 160,00, E O ATENDIMENTO DE 1/2 HORA SAI POR 128,00.

Starting 1/21 new pricing is reaL 200/ HR and 160/ half, both in cash.

They also have a frequent fucker program: after 4 paid sessions, you get the 5th one free.

With this program, 5 one-hour sessions cost real 160 each, and 5 one-half hour sessions cost real 128 each.

It's not clear if you have to be a member of gp-guia to get this deal but mentioning you saw it on gp-guia might be sufficient.

[AltoBomGosto]

That guy does not know what he is talking about. He extrapolates from one visit, ridiculous. Furthermore he knows nothing about the forista discount policies. The discount policies are predicated on the client giving a review. Positive, negative or neutral. That point should be emphasized. Positive OR negative OR neutral. It does not matter which, any review is a qualifier for discount. So his whole yes men theory is completely wrong. The casas use the reviews not just for free marketing but for qualty control, providers that receive multiple negative reviews do not last long. This further undermines his totally unfounded claim that the higher price places, I assume he is referring to the boates like Scandalo, screen the girls better. Absolutely wrong. Itis precisely the review system employed by the clinicas or direct feedback to reception at places like Tangara that ensure quality and customer satisfaction. The big boates do not give a crap about the performance of the ladies, not one bit. They do not rely on reviews and they do not solicit feedback, nor do they care if you complain. They just do not care at all. They screen at most, if at all, for looks, nothing more.

His entire rant was full of misinformation and does more harm than good to visitors who are trying to understand their options.You are absolutely right Rovnak, the GP Guia was created to exchange information among members, and the CLnicas emphatise customers to post on the board positive, negative or neutral.

The promotional prices are only granted to the forum members who post Test Drives.

That's the reason why CLnicas emphatise better service of the girls than the ones boites.

That's why I prefer the CLínicas than the boites.

ABG.

[Member #4732]

Announcement on gp-guia.net by Chanes 57.

OLA AMIGOS DO GPGUIA!

DESDE SEGUNDA FEIRA, 21/01, A chans ESTA PRATICANDO NOVOS PREOS PROMOCIONAIS PARA O GPGUIA!

ATENDIMENTO DE 1 HORA: 200,00 (PAGAMENTO them DINHEIRO).

ATENDIMENTO DE 1/2 HORA:'160,00 (PAGAMENTO DE DINHEIRO).

E AGORA NOSSO PLANO DE MILHAGEM E O MELHOR DE TODOS.

A CADA 4 ATENDIMENTOS, O 5 o ATENDIMENTO 100% VIP!

DESSA FORMA O ATENDIMENTO DE 1 HORA SAI POR 160,00, E O ATENDIMENTO DE 1/2 HORA SAI POR 128,00..I asked reception and they told me those promotional prices above are only for foristas.

The regular prices in CASH are still as follows:

Before 9 pm: 230 (hour) and 170 (half hour) for non foristas.

After 9 pm: 350 (hour) and 250 (half hour).

In all cases there is a 20 reais charge to use credit card.

[Muppets]

Hi guys,

I'm visiting next week for three days, at the grand mercure ibirapuera. I've been to SP once however my only experience there was takeout from the Kilt club, maybe four years ago. It was fun, with a mulata Rihanna look alike, but it doesn't appear to be highly recommended here.

Problem is I will be largely tied to my phone due work and getting out to a Clínica like Tangara during the day will be difficult. From what I've read on here midday or early afternoon is best, however, does that mean in the evening it's not worth it?

Regarding ordering room service, I know in Brazil (like most places) everyone is a photo shop wizard, but pages like clubmodel.com.br are reliable? Or is it classic bait and switch?

Any advice for someone who wants to play but is somewhat limited in time free and movement would be great.

Thanks.

[AltoBomGosto]

I asked reception and they told me those promotional prices above are only for foristas.

The regular prices in CASH are still as follows:

Before 9 pm: 230 (hour) and 170 (half hour) for non foristas.

After 9 pm: 350 (hour) and 250 (half hour).

In all cases there is a 20 reais charge to use credit card.Great research Rovnak, the promotional prices are only valid to Gpguia frequent mongers. To became one you must register at the Gpguia, do some reports and than apply for the discounts. Criteria may vary from house to house but most of them require a minimum of one TD each 3 month to keep the VIP membership. Also each TD must be reported.

[AltoBomGosto]

In fact, truth be told, I didn't really like Tangara when I went at about 4 pm the first time. My second visit on a Sunday just after lunch time made me like it a lot more. So maybe try some places twice before forming your own opinion.IMO Tangara has the biggest and best priced line up of garotas, it gets crowded specifically on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays.

So go there early, or visit Vans Way, Red Way or Yankin, specially the least one, they are not so full of John's.

All the above houses belong to same owners.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

Hi guys,

I'm visiting next week for three days, at the grand mercure ibirapuera. I've been to SP once however my only experience there was takeout from the Kilt club, maybe four years ago. It was fun, with a mulata Rihanna look alike, but it doesn't appear to be highly recommended here.

Problem is I will be largely tied to my phone due work and getting out to a Clnica like Tangara during the day will be difficult. From what I've read on here midday or early afternoon is best, however, does that mean in the evening it's not worth it?

Regarding ordering room service, I know in Brazil (like most places) everyone is a photo shop wizard, but pages like clubmodel.com.br are reliable? Or is it classic bait and switch?

Any advice for someone who wants to play but is somewhat limited in time free and movement would be great.

Thanks.Go to Espaco Vergueiro, Av. Vergueiro 170, opens at noon and closes at 3 AM. The action normally starts at 9 PM.

PM me for more details.

ABG.

[Muppets]

Thank you sir, you are a legend. PM you Sunday when I'm more aware of my schedule.

[Jib Reach]

Hi guys,

I'm visiting next week for three days, at the grand mercure ibirapuera. I've been to SP once however my only experience there was takeout from the Kilt club, maybe four years ago. It was fun, with a mulata Rihanna look alike, but it doesn't appear to be highly recommended here.

Problem is I will be largely tied to my phone due work and getting out to a Clnica like Tangara during the day will be difficult. From what I've read on here midday or early afternoon is best, however, does that mean in the evening it's not worth it?

Regarding ordering room service, I know in Brazil (like most places) everyone is a photo shop wizard, but pages like clubmodel.com.br are reliable? Or is it classic bait and switch?

Any advice for someone who wants to play but is somewhat limited in time free and movement would be great.

Thanks.Use Twitter if you want them to visit in the hotel.

These guys are some of the most prolific "reviewers".

https://twitter.com/AndarilhoGPGUIA

https://twitter.com/PutodaMooca

https://twitter.com/BreakingBad_GP

I'm guessing you aren't a Portuguese speaker. Some of these women do speak English (at least some) and will say that in their Twitter profile. Otherwise, they are used to foreigners and Google translate (though it sucks and is often just wrong) is adequate. Prices generally range from 300-500. GPGuia.net is also useful. If you use Chrome, you can translate the page enough to figure out what is being said.

Good Luck!

[Muppets]

Thanks! Pm Sunday when I know my schedule.
Also, just to confirm, getting outcall isn't recommended?

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I asked reception and they told me those promotional prices above are only for foristas.

The regular prices in CASH are still as follows:

Before 9 pm: 230 (hour) and 170 (half hour) for non foristas.

After 9 pm: 350 (hour) and 250 (half hour).

In all cases there is a 20 reais charge to use credit card.Went to Chanes 57 about 10 PM tonight. No entry fee, no minimum, long-neck beers are 20 real (including service charge), had a band playing, fairly crowded. Counted 19 women, maybe a couple of others busy; two different guys had 3-4 girls sitting with them, most of the other girls sitting by themselves or talking with each other. Receptionist said forista pricing for programs is only up until 8:50 PM. There were some cute ones, but none I would pay 350 real an hour for when I can get the same quality girl for half the price during the day. Will go next time in time for forista pricing but may not have the same number and quality of girls at earlier time.

[WyattEarp]

Regarding ordering room service, I know in Brazil (like most places) everyone is a photo shop wizard, but pages like clubmodel.com.br are reliable? Or is it classic bait and switch?

Any advice for someone who wants to play but is somewhat limited in time free and movement would be great.I recently recommended these two to a member who is going to be writing a trip report shortly. He arranged meetings with these two by Whatsapp. He said he had a good time with Rangel. Bella (formerly Yasmine Piovane) had to cancel for some dental issue. This member told me he liked curvy girls with big tits and ass. If you like spinners, whatever, let us know.

https://twitter.com/ARangelCarlos

https://twitter.com/bellamorenabr

[AltoBomGosto]

I recently recommended these two to a member who is going to be writing a trip report shortly. He arranged meetings with these two by Whatsapp. He said he had a good time with Rangel. Bella (formerly Yasmine Piovane) had to cancel for some dental issue. This member told me he liked curvy girls with big tits and ass. If you like spinners, whatever, let us know.

https://twitter.com/ARangelCarlos

https://twitter.com/bellamorenabrRangel Carlos is from Florida, was she hired to be at your hotel in São Paulo?

[WyattEarp]

Rangel Carlos is from Florida, was she hired to be at your hotel in So Paulo?A fellow member I converse with on PM met Rangel in Sao Paulo at the end of January beginning of February. Hopefully, he will have time and post details soon. She's based in Floripa (Florianopolis) but shows up in Sao Paulo and perhaps other cities. I believe she was recently operating in Jardins (Sao Paulo). I presume she will come to your hotel if it works for her schedule.

[Sparky17]

I have been searching on photoaccompantes for Indaiatuba. I think I will have some lined up so I will report back.

ABG.

I will be coming to Sao Paolo Thursday evening. If you want to hookup let me know. I didn't have time to get a senior status but if you know another way to contact I will do it.

[AltoBomGosto]

A fellow member I converse with on PM met Rangel in Sao Paulo at the end of January beginning of February. Hopefully, he will have time and post details soon. She's based in Floripa (Florianopolis) but shows up in Sao Paulo and perhaps other cities. I believe she was recently operating in Jardins (Sao Paulo). I presume she will come to your hotel if it works for her schedule.IMO this post should be written under the Florianopolis sub-board as Rangel operates there.

With hundreds of free lancers in Sao Paulo advertising on the GP-Guia, it's much easier to find a girl from the ads, verify her revues and than call her.

If you don't speak Porto and are in a tight schedule, go to a clinica. That will save you time and efford. There are clinicas wit more than 30 girls on the line-up, choose one girl, do a test drive (get laid), and if she's ok for you, take her to your place. Remember that all extras like DFK, BBBJ, etc, must be dealt before you enter the room.

Seeing a girl is always better in clinicas like Tangara.

There will be receptionists speaking English to help you. Some girls there do outcalls.

Any questions, please PM me.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

Yesterday I went to my favorite clinica, arrived at 1:30 PM, lots of beautiful girls coming in, decided to make a coffee and milk dupla.

Baby Gibi white skin, Caucasian, and Anny, Afro Brazilian morena. The four hands was fantastic both girls treated me as if I was a sultan.

Both girls very GFE, both give fantastic BBBJ, both allow you to CIM!

Apparently, this was the first dupla they have performed but it happened a light DATY among them.

When I left there were over 40 girls in the house. But also a bunch of Johns, better come to the house early, right afternoon.

ABG.

[Muppets]

I recently recommended these two to a member who is going to be writing a trip report shortly. He arranged meetings with these two by Whatsapp. He said he had a good time with Rangel. Bella (formerly Yasmine Piovane) had to cancel for some dental issue. This member told me he liked curvy girls with big tits and ass. If you like spinners, whatever, let us know.

https://twitter.com/ARangelCarlos

https://twitter.com/bellamorenabrYeah I'm definitely a spinner guy, not a big ass fan at all. Too much time in Asia!

[Jib Reach]

Yeah I'm definitely a spinner guy, not a big ass fan at all. Too much time in Asia!You probably won't find many "spinners" in Brazil, but here are number of top notch women. I know a number of them, the others have been highly recommended by their competition. Yes, at this level they share clients.

Blondes.

Athena Jardins - https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/athena/ and https://twitter.com/Athena_jardins. She is beautiful and top notch.

Giulia Gaugher - https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/giulia-gaugher/ and https://twitter.com/GaugherSexy Again, simply gorgeous. Very popular and extremely well respected. A bit pricier. Speaks at least some English. Claims fluency.

Sara Muller - https://twitter.com/Sara_MullerGP Spinner.

Eva Schwarzkopf - http://lover4.com/acompanhante/SP/SaoPaulo/EvaSchwarzkopf/259/ and https://twitter.com/EvaSchwarkoph Absolutely top notch.

Andressa Altenhoff - http://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/andressa-altenhoff and https://twitter.com/andressagpalten.

Brunettes -.

Agata Muniz - https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/agata-muniz/ and https://twitter.com/agatamuniz_gp. Agata is simply the top of the top. She speaks at least some English. Or writes it at least. If you look at the respect she maintains on Twitter, you will tell. She is WELL worth the money. And is best if you schedule for multiple hours and do lunch. . .

Zoe Dantas - http://lover4.com/acompanhante/SP/SaoPaulo/ZoeDantas/267/ and https://twitter.com/oficialzoe8 The walking and talking definition of "safada". "Nuff said. .

Nick Rosa - https://twitter.com/nickrosa18. .

Jennifer Fernandez - https://jenniferfernandess7.wixsite.com/jennifer and https://twitter.com/JFernandesgp Gorgeous.

You can use Google translate. While it will inevitably embarrass you, it works well enough.

If someone catches your eye, come back and ask.

Good luck!

Jib Reach.

[Member #4732]

Very nice list. Should be helpful to visitors. Which of them have you seen personally? I am wary of the heavy production in SPLove shoots. The twitter feeds give a more realistic and current view I assume. Buyer beware on the SPLove and Clubmodel sites, that the ladies will use photos for several years on those sites. I like the look of Agata Muniz, though I can't help but think she was probably more attractive with her natural small boobs. Se la vie.

Also, note, there are some periods at the end of several of the twitter links which render them initially as page not found errors. Reader needs to simply backspace to delete the period and reload the page.


You probably won't find many "spinners" in Brazil, but here are number of top notch women. I know a number of them, the others have been highly recommended by their competition. Yes, at this level they share clients.

Blondes.

[Muppets]

You probably won't find many "spinners" in Brazil, but here are number of top notch women. I know a number of them, the others have been highly recommended by their competition. Yes, at this level they share clients.

Blondes.

Athena Jardins - https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/athena/ and https://twitter.com/Athena_jardins. She is beautiful and top notch.

Giulia Gaugher - https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/giulia-gaugher/ and https://twitter.com/GaugherSexy Again, simply gorgeous. Very popular and extremely well respected. A bit pricier. Speaks at least some English. Claims fluency.

Sara Muller - https://twitter.com/Sara_MullerGP Spinner.

Eva Schwarzkopf - http://lover4.com/acompanhante/SP/SaoPaulo/EvaSchwarzkopf/259/ and https://twitter.com/EvaSchwarkoph Absolutely top notch.

Andressa Altenhoff - http://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/andressa-altenhoff and https://twitter.com/andressagpalten.

Brunettes -.

Agata Muniz - https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/agata-muniz/ and https://twitter.com/agatamuniz_gp. Agata is simply the top of the top. She speaks at least some English. Or writes it at least. If you look at the respect she maintains on Twitter, you will tell. She is WELL worth the money. And is best if you schedule for multiple hours and do lunch. . .

Zoe Dantas - http://lover4.com/acompanhante/SP/SaoPaulo/ZoeDantas/267/ and https://twitter.com/oficialzoe8 The walking and talking definition of "safada". "Nuff said. .

Nick Rosa - https://twitter.com/nickrosa18. .

Jennifer Fernandez - https://jenniferfernandess7.wixsite.com/jennifer and https://twitter.com/JFernandesgp Gorgeous.

You can use Google translate. While it will inevitably embarrass you, it works well enough.

If someone catches your eye, come back and ask.

Good luck!

Jib Reach.Thanks dude, may not get a chance for a proper look til Monday, though on having given a quick glance Sara Muller looks amazing and I'll almost definitely get in touch with her.

I am fluent in Spanish which helps a bit when speaking to someone portuguese but only to a certain point.....

[Shamester]

https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/yumi-inoue/

Any feedback on this chica?

[AltoBomGosto]

Today I got free a little late, went to Tangara and the place was just packed with nice looking girls, but also with customers. Lot's of foreign guys just looking the parade, the rooms continued to be full.

I was not in the mood of waiting too long for a room, decided to visit Espacio Vergueiro, went with Hellen, a nice caucasian girl, ex Tangara, Very GFE, BBBJ, and CIM. Didn't ask if she does anal.

I had only oral sex and finish. 1/2 hour = 100 reais.

The place has a nice bar, beverages at honest prices, 5 nice rooms w / complete bathroom, split A/C, all looks very clean.

ABG.

[Jib Reach]

https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/yumi-inoue/

Any feedback on this chica?I follow her on Twitter, but have no real experience or first / second hand knowledge. She's been around for a few years and has reviews back into 2017.14 of 15 are positive. The last one was negative. Not because of necessarily poor service but because of the sculpted / surgery enhanced body. Says she's beautiful, performs, etc. Sounds like the guy wanted a geisha. . . She isn't.

https://twitter.com/ahjaponesa

http://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=177918&sid=b860c6da92e69f0f3f1865944ab0dad0&start=10

[HarvestBoi]

I'm surprised that there isn't more info on gpguia about high end (and highly promoted) garotas like this. For example Nick Rosa has 2 reviews that I could find. One great and one horrible. 800 Reis, the same as a Scandallo girl! What am I to think?

I still think Brasil has the smallest gap between what you see on twitter, the sites etc. ,and reality of what shows up at your door, of anywhere I've been. So I think that what you see there is pretty close to what you are going to get. Have a blast!


Very nice list. Should be helpful to visitors. Which of them have you seen personally? I am wary of the heavy production in SPLove shoots. The twitter feeds give a more realistic and current view I assume. Buyer beware on the SPLove and Clubmodel sites, that the ladies will use photos for several years on those sites. I like the look of Agata Muniz, though I can't help but think she was probably more attractive with her natural small boobs. Se la vie.

Also, note, there are some periods at the end of several of the twitter links which render them initially as page not found errors. Reader needs to simply backspace to delete the period and reload the page.

[Jib Reach]

Very nice list. Should be helpful to visitors. Which of them have you seen personally? I am wary of the heavy production in SPLove shoots. The twitter feeds give a more realistic and current view I assume. Buyer beware on the SPLove and Clubmodel sites, that the ladies will use photos for several years on those sites. I like the look of Agata Muniz, though I can't help but think she was probably more attractive with her natural small boobs. Se la vie.

Also, note, there are some periods at the end of several of the twitter links which render them initially as page not found errors. Reader needs to simply backspace to delete the period and reload the page.Blondes? I have seen Athena, Eva and Andressa. Brunettes? Agata and Jennifer.

I just threw a quick list of girls who might qualify as "spinnerish" and I know or have been reliably told are top notch.

It is true that the SPLove, etc. Sites are professionally taken photos, photoshopped and staged. They are also expensive. If you see someone you like, find the twitter feed and read up. There are inevitably personal photos and videos and commentary.

As for GPGuia, it has lost a lot of its credibility over the past year and many of the higher-end women don't want to be on it. Just FYI, the way that site is set up, you can't post a review unless the girl consents to her topic being included on the site.

As for price? Price at that level is a more fluid concept. So, for example, Nick Rosa on SPLove says her cache is to be agreed. Just ask.

For twitter contact, a couple of suggestions.

1) Do not try to negotiate. If you do, they will block you or ignore you.

2) Be objective. Just say you got their number on Twitter, think they look nice, would like to know more about meeting them. They get hundreds of messages a day that are "colorful". They get ignored.

3) Don't send or ask for pictures.

4) Don't flake. If you decide not to show, give notice. As much as possible. No shows may show up on a centralized black list.

5) This is Brazil. Good jobs are not readily available and many of these women are highly educated. One I met (not on this list. She doesn't advertise), has an MBA that she got in a foreign country, speaks perfect English and a growing real estate development company. Turns out that we were neighbors in another country 8000 miles from Brazil. She has pictures of me on the beach and beach bar there in the background (we both lived in the same beach front apartment complex). So try to take advantage of not only the physical company, but these women are charming as well.

[Member #4732]

Blondes? I have seen Athena, Eva and Andressa. Brunettes? Agata and Jennifer.

As for GPGuia, it has lost a lot of its credibility over the past year and many of the higher-end women don't want to be on it. Just FYI, the way that site is set up, you can't post a review unless the girl consents to her topic being included on the site.I have written about the policy change that gp-guia instituted sometime over the past year or 2 whereby the site now requires that GPS "authorize" the posting of TDs. Specifically, they need to authorize the opening of a topic associated with their phone number. They do not authorize individual TD.

And, yes, this has diminished the "volume" of TDs related to free lancers. It has not diminished the TDs related to clincias and prives.

But when you write "it has lost a lot of its credibility over the past year and many of the higher-end women don't want to be on it" . I do not understand what you are implying because the sentence can be read one way, but that way contradicts to some extent my understanding of the situation. It seems that you are implying that the higher end "GPS don't want to be reviewed on gp-guia because it has lost credibility". Is that what you are implying? Not sure what "credibility" loss you are referring to that would be viewed as a negative for the GPS? Can you explain? Maybe I misinterpreted your comment based on the specific phrasing which is somewhat ambiguous.

I say that that contradicts my understanding because my impression is that the change in policy has not really caused a loss in credibility, but rather that it has reduced the number of negative or buyer beware reviews because the poorly reviewed GPS do not authorize the reviews, naturally, because it is not in their interest to be negatively reviewed. So quite often a NEW provider is negatively reviewed by the first reviewer, and then the thread is shut down by the moderator because the GP has not authorized TDs and of course she will not authorize because the first TD is negative. So it becomes something of a catch 22 preventing the calling out of poor or bait and switch providers. So one might say that the "credibility" of the site is reduced to the extent that it no longer functions as well as it did in the past in identifying the POOR providers. But what does that have to do with why ostensibly GOOD providers would not be willing to be reviewed? Do you see what I am saying? There is a contradiction there, unless I am missing your point. IMO a "good" provider has nothing to worry about and everything to gain by continuing to participate in gp-guia and receive its free marketing boost. Only the poor providers have to worry about a negative business impact. So when a provider tells me that she does not want to be associated with gp-guia this is normally a red flag for me, a warning, not an encouraging indicator.

The real threat to gp-guia's credibility is the false positive reports, which again are a benefit to the provider and not something a legitimately good provider will need to worry or concern themselves with. By false positive TDs I refer to TDs written by the provider herself or friends, pimps, whoever which falsely claim how GOOD the provider is. Moderators are pretty aggressive about eliminating these false TDs.

IMO, gp-guia has not "lost credibility", but it does suffer from a terrible search engine and lack of standardization in terms of phone numbers which makes it a nightmare to find TDs for GPS, but this has been a problem forever with that site.

[Member #4732]

I'm surprised that there isn't more info on gpguia about high end (and highly promoted) garotas like this. For example Nick Rosa has 2 reviews that I could find. One great and one horrible. 800 Reis, the same as a Scandallo girl! What am I to think?

I still think Brasil has the smallest gap between what you see on twitter, the sites etc. ,and reality of what shows up at your door, of anywhere I've been. So I think that what you see there is pretty close to what you are going to get. Have a blast!Not sure what you mean by "the same as a Scandallo girl? What am I to think?" What is the question exactly or the significance of the Scandalo price comparison? Both Scandalo and free lance prices are somewhat market driven. The GPS will press their advantage. The normal life cycle of a GP is something of a ladder. They start off lower priced, build up a clientele and then start to increase their prices and test the limits of the market.

I personally, will not have fun with that list because as someone who lives here I prefer to see ladies that are at the beginning of their professional life not at the peak. The peak providers that have their marketing game in gear and command the big $$ are probably a decent thing for visitors, which is why I said it will be a good list for visitors. And as noted these ladies are probably great "company", for guys that want to take them out to dinner and such. That is great for guys with cash and I would probably do that if I were visiting occasionally. However, I would be negligent if I did not point out that the longer a woman works in this field and the more contact she has with foreigners the more likely she is to pick up the same habits that escorts around the world are known for. They become more focused on externalities of wealth and privilege, more focused on "performing" in bed rather than "letting go". Basically, what in Brasil are called the "vices" of putas. I am not suggesting that these girls are at all subject to those issues, and certainly the ones that JibReach knows personally have his personal imprimatur! I am just responding to you question of "what am I to think" as best I can.

[Jib Reach]

I have written about the policy change that gp-guia instituted sometime over the past year or 2 whereby the site now requires that GPS "authorize" the posting of TDs. Specifically, they need to authorize the opening of a topic associated with their phone number. They do not authorize individual TD.

And, yes, this has diminished the "volume" of TDs related to free lancers. It has not diminished the TDs related to clincias and prives.

But when you write "it has lost a lot of its credibility over the past year and many of the higher-end women don't want to be on it" . I do not understand what you are implying because the sentence can be read one way, but that way contradicts to some extent my understanding of the situation. It seems that you are implying that the higher end "GPS don't want to be reviewed on gp-guia because it has lost credibility". Is that what you are implying? Not sure what "credibility" loss you are referring to that would be viewed as a negative for the GPS? Can you explain? Maybe I misinterpreted your comment based on the specific phrasing which is somewhat ambiguous..Don't mean to step on toes, especially with a current Paulista! (I was. . . . A long time ago) And I can't comment at all about the Clinicas, Boates, etc. I have tried and they simply aren't for me. But that is simply a matter of personality.

What I mean, and this is second hand from the GPS and some of the more well-known putanheiros is that there is to some degree a moderation problem. And an extortion problem. GPS have been threatened with bad TDs, entire topics have been removed, etc. And other perceived problems. This started last spring (well Fall) right after the Gp Guia party in April. I find it a continuing resource and I recommend it. But I wouldn't take it as gospel.

Jib Reach.

[Jib Reach]

Not sure what you mean by "the same as a Scandallo girl? What am I to think?" What is the question exactly or the significance of the Scandalo price comparison? Both Scandalo and free lance prices are somewhat market driven. The GPS will press their advantage. The normal life cycle of a GP is something of a ladder. They start off lower priced, build up a clientele and then start to increase their prices and test the limits of the market.

I personally, will not have fun with that list because as someone who lives here I prefer to see ladies that are at the beginning of their professional life not at the peak. The peak providers that have their marketing game in gear and command the big $$ are probably a decent thing for visitors, which is why I said it will be a good list for visitors. And as noted these ladies are probably great "company", for guys that want to take them out to dinner and such. That is great for guys with cash and I would probably do that if I were visiting occasionally. However, I would be negligent if I did not point out that the longer a woman works in this field and the more contact she has with foreigners the more likely she is to pick up the same habits that escorts around the world are known for.I largely agree. Though you can find a lot of 18/19/20 yos on Twitter. Hardly at the peak of their career. Others, who have been in the business or start as independents at 25 or 26 may have come from the clinics. There are also quite a few that were fischa rosa and got tired of the fee splitting and the inability to select clients and schedules.

And, for the record, I am not experienced in this world at all, having begun my journey just about a year ago. I have been lucky in developing a couple of friendships in the "parallel universe", but that's it.

So, for anyone noting an inconsistency between me and one of the seniors like Rovnak, follow Rovnak! While what I say is true in my experience, I am not qualifies to make broad reaching generalizations.

[Polyamorist]

As for GPGuia, it has lost a lot of its credibility over the past year and many of the higher-end women don't want to be on it. Just FYI, the way that site is set up, you can't post a review unless the girl consents to her topic being included on the site.
I don't think GPGuia or forumcutuca ever had much credibility. If anybody knows of a local forum that doesn't have deals with the same clinicas as it is reviewing, I'd be eager to know it. However, I despair of finding such objective reviews. As in most countries I have visited, the local forums have been effectively neutralised as a matter of policy. They pretend to be about controlling the girls; they are really about controlling the mongers.

From reading such local forums you will never know which houses have turned into tourist traps and which have remained good. The stream of reports will look exactly the same as it did five years ago.

Guys who are heavily invested in the clinicas will never admit this. In that respect and others, the "forista" system resembles a pyramid scheme.

Just my 2 dirhams. Let the shouting begin.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Took Metro here Friday evening. Arrived at the club about 10:15 PM. Entered the club; dead. 5 women, maybe 8 men, all sitting and standing around the bar. Nothing happening, no girl of interest. Looked around for 30 seconds and walked out. If it's this dead on a Saturday night, how bad is it during the week?

[Member #4732]

I don't think GPGuia or forumcutuca ever had much credibility. If anybody knows of a local forum that doesn't have deals with the same clinicas as it is reviewing, I'd be eager to know it. However, I despair of finding such objective reviews. As in most countries I have visited, the local forums have been effectively neutralised as a matter of policy. They pretend to be about controlling the girls; they are really about controlling the mongers.

From reading such local forums you will never know which houses have turned into tourist traps and which have remained good. The stream of reports will look exactly the same as it did five years ago.

Guys who are heavily invested in the clinicas will never admit this. In that respect and others, the "forista" system resembles a pyramid scheme.

Just my 2 dirhams. Let the shouting begin.Honestly, what are you talking about? How much time have you spent in Brazil and how much time have you spent cross referencing gp-guia with actual experience? Maybe you are extrapolating from your experience in other countries. Though I have found client forums that were helpful in other countries as well.

Not a single line in your post makes any real sense, and I am being generous. None of us are 'seriously invested" in clinicas. We voite with our wallets and go where we find value. Maybe the reports look the same as five years ago because the reports are just reports on interactions with the providers and that is a pretty simple thing. Maybe none of the houses have turned into "tourist traps". There is no such thing as a tourist trap clinica in Sao Paulo. It is not a touristic city and the "tourist" business, such as it is, is marginal at best. I am not trying to be harsh here but your comments sound paranoid. I think you just don't "get Brasil".

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Took Metro here Friday evening. Arrived at the club about 10:15 PM. Entered the club; dead. 5 women, maybe 8 men, all sitting and standing around the bar. Nothing happening, no girl of interest. Looked around for 30 seconds and walked out. If it's this dead on a Saturday night, how bad is it during the week?Correction: went there Saturday night.

[AltoBomGosto]

Took Metro here Friday evening. Arrived at the club about 10:15 PM. Entered the club; dead. 5 women, maybe 8 men, all sitting and standing around the bar. Nothing happening, no girl of interest. Looked around for 30 seconds and walked out. If it's this dead on a Saturday night, how bad is it during the week?Saturday is definitively not the best day to go, Thuesday and Friday are.

Besides, you came in too early, action starts after 11 PM.

[HarvestBoi]

On my next trip I want to concnetrate on twitter / escorts, so a good local board is useful. I was under the impression that high end escorts would be a notch lower in price than a Scandallo girl. For example I was quoted 500 are for a meeting outside the club by one of the girls I sessioned with for 800 are inside.

I still find it strange that sites like Clubmodel advertise so heavily on gpguia but it's so hit and miss to find reviews if the girls listed there.

Thanks Jib Reach for tips on how to approach these girls. If I Zap them and just flat out ask them their fee, is that rude? What about details of service levels? For example, FIV is important to me. Do I hassle that out on the phone or make the appointment and hope for the best. I also take your point about the education level of these girls. I don't find that to be a problem. I find smart GPS sexier, easier to handle and can give superior service because you can reason with a smart girl. Makes the whole experience more enjoyable. And finally, what is the price range for these girls?

Rovnik, I'm just saying with a Scandallo girl at 800 I can see her, talk to her, gauge her level of interest and hotness, work out the details above etc. , where with a girl like Nick Rosa I'm just swinging for the fences and hoping for the best. I'm more likely to take these chances in the 4-600 are range. And of course, the best is to get a young hot one on her way up, but again a local board helps ID those. I also see your point that good providers will be selected for on gpguia, it just that so many girls are absent from it altogether. I guess the takeaway is, if you find a girl on gpguia with good reviews, you can be pretty confident in her service level. Maybe I'm overthinking this. It is Brasil after all, where, service levels are always high. You just want to avoid any with 'bucseta oro syndrome' which happens more frequently with high end GPS, as you well note.

[AltoBomGosto]

I have written about the policy change that gp-guia instituted sometime over the past year or 2 whereby the site now requires that GPS "authorize" the posting of TDs. Specifically, they need to authorize the opening of a topic associated with their phone number. They do not authorize individual TD.

And, yes, this has diminished the "volume" of TDs related to free lancers. It has not diminished the TDs related to clincias and prives.

But when you write "it has lost a lot of its credibility over the past year and many of the higher-end women don't want to be on it" . I do not understand what you are implying because the sentence can be read one way, but that way contradicts to some extent my understanding of the situation. It seems that you are implying that the higher end "GPS don't want to be reviewed on gp-guia because it has lost credibility". Is that what you are implying? Not sure what "credibility" loss you are referring to that would be viewed as a negative for the GPS? Can you explain? Maybe I misinterpreted your comment based on the specific phrasing which is somewhat ambiguous.

I say that that contradicts my understanding because my impression is that the change in policy has not really caused a loss in credibility, but rather that it has reduced the number of negative or buyer beware reviews because the poorly reviewed GPS do not authorize the reviews, naturally, because it is not in their interest to be negatively reviewed. So quite often a NEW provider is negatively reviewed by the first reviewer, and then the thread is shut down by the moderator because the GP has not authorized TDs and of course she will not authorize because the first TD is negative. So it becomes something of a catch 22 preventing the calling out of poor or bait and switch providers. So one might say that the "credibility" of the site is reduced to the extent that it no longer functions as well as it did in the past in identifying the POOR providers. But what does that have to do with why ostensibly GOOD providers would not be willing to be reviewed? Do you see what I am saying? There is a contradiction there, unless I am missing your point. IMO a "good" provider has nothing to worry about and everything to gain by continuing to participate in gp-guia and receive its free marketing boost. Only the poor providers have to worry about a negative business impact. So when a provider tells me that she does not want to be associated with gp-guia this is normally a red flag for me, a warning, not an encouraging indicator.

The real threat to gp-guia's credibility is the false positive reports, which again are a benefit to the provider and not something a legitimately good provider will need to worry or concern themselves with. By false positive TDs I refer to TDs written by the provider herself or friends, pimps, whoever which falsely claim how GOOD the provider is. Moderators are pretty aggressive about eliminating these false TDs.

IMO, gp-guia has not "lost credibility", but it does suffer from a terrible search engine and lack of standardization in terms of phone numbers which makes it a nightmare to find TDs for GPS, but this has been a problem forever with that site.Rovnak, I agree completly with your opinion. I've been seeng hundred of girls from the called " high end " come to the clinicas and do the same for a fraction of their announced price on the internet.

ABG.

[Member #4732]

On my next trip I want to concnetrate on twitter / escorts, so a good local board is useful. I was under the impression that high end escorts would be a notch lower in price than a Scandallo girl. For example I was quoted 500 are for a meeting outside the club by one of the girls I sessioned with for 800 are inside.

Rovnik, I'm just saying with a Scandallo girl at 800 I can see her, talk to her, gauge her level of interest and hotness, work out the details above etc. , where with a girl like Nick Rosa I'm just swinging for the fences and hoping for the best. I'm more likely to take these chances in the 4-600 are range. And of course, the best is to get a young hot one on her way up, but again a local board helps ID those. I also see your point that good providers will be selected for on gpguia, it just that so many girls are absent from it altogether. I guess the takeaway is, if you find a girl on gpguia with good reviews, you can be pretty confident in her service level. Maybe I'm overthinking this. It is Brasil after all, where, service levels are always high. You just want to avoid any with 'bucseta oro syndrome' which happens more frequently with high end GPS, as you well note.OK, yes, I agree with your explanation. If I can paraphrase, you are saying that if a girl charges 800 an hour in scandalo, she will often go for way less outside of the club? That there is a "club" premium. I think that is fair. I just wanted to make sure you were not under the impression that the GIRLS are separate populations. As in Scandalo girls and high end free lancers. There is a huge overlap as many girls do both, either at the same time or seasonally. Anyway, to your bigger point, yeah 800 is real high for free lancer. Anything above 300 an hour is on the "luxury" end of the spectrum. That is one reason I like photoacompanhantes more than the luxury sites because there is downward price pressure on photoacompanhantes and upward price pressure on the other sites.

[Thunder5]

Yes, I can attest to sessioning with Rangel Carlos. And it was one of the best sessions (hour) of my life. She's 500 reals, and I met her at her apartment in Bela Vista. I will write a more detailed report of my7 night visit later this week but you will not be wasting your time coordinating a 1 hour visit with her. At least with me, she was super friendly, she loves anal (I've never tried anal before), and it was nonstop GFE as soon as I walked in the door. I'm in my late 40's. And she still made me feel like I was a special person. (I am, by the way) I swear to god, it was 1 hour of nonstop action. She loves to make out. And she was wet as a whistle when I put my fingers in her vag. So I think she enjoys these sessions. She's not your fair skin brazilian. But she's definitely the 110% brazilian SERVICE Brazilian and you will get your money's worth. Maybe I caught her on a good day in terms of superb service. It was 7 pm in the evening on a Saturday night. (when I do write my report eventually, I went to Casarao three times, Scandallo twice, Tangara once, saw Rangel Carlos per ISG friend's recommendation). Rangel Carlos actually finished in 2nd place of the 7 sessions I had. , I met a 20 year old in Casarao, who was a screamer, and she won my 1st place prize as best session in Sao Paolo. Anyhow, I highly recommend Rangel Carlos. (but again, maybe I caught her on a good day in terms of SUPERB GFE service).


I recently recommended these two to a member who is going to be writing a trip report shortly. He arranged meetings with these two by Whatsapp. He said he had a good time with Rangel. Bella (formerly Yasmine Piovane) had to cancel for some dental issue. This member told me he liked curvy girls with big tits and ass. If you like spinners, whatever, let us know.

https://twitter.com/ARangelCarlos

https://twitter.com/bellamorenabr

[Jib Reach]

On my next trip I want to concnetrate on twitter / escorts, so a good local board is useful. I was under the impression that high end escorts would be a notch lower in price than a Scandallo girl. For example I was quoted 500 are for a meeting outside the club by one of the girls I sessioned with for 800 are inside.

I still find it strange that sites like Clubmodel advertise so heavily on gpguia but it's so hit and miss to find reviews if the girls listed there.

Thanks Jib Reach for tips on how to approach these girls. If I Zap them and just flat out ask them their fee, is that rude? What about details of service levels? For example, FIV is important to me. Do I hassle that out on the phone or make the appointment and hope for the best. I also take your point about the education level of these girls. I don't find that to be a problem. I find smart GPS sexier, easier to handle and can give superior service because you can reason with a smart girl. Makes the whole experience more enjoyable. And finally, what is the price range for these girls?.Generally, if you just ask for information, they will just send their menu (so to speak). One hour, multiple hours, services, etc. As for asking specifically about FIV, I probably wouldn't ask in the first message, but if you start to chat a bit, ask nicely.

Prices will run from 300 to 600 per hour, with multi-hour discounts for most. Probably 60% 300-400,35% 400-500 and 5% above 500. It is also worth your time to use Twitter. Many have discounts only for Twitter followers. Not always, but end of the month specials are not uncommon. Rent to be paid, you know?

[Member #4732]

Don't mean to step on toes, especially with a current Paulista! (I was. . . . A long time ago) And I can't comment at all about the Clinicas, Boates, etc. I have tried and they simply aren't for me. But that is simply a matter of personality.

What I mean, and this is second hand from the GPS and some of the more well-known putanheiros is that there is to some degree a moderation problem. And an extortion problem. GPS have been threatened with bad TDs, entire topics have been removed, etc. And other perceived problems. This started last spring (well Fall) right after the Gp Guia party in April. I find it a continuing resource and I recommend it. But I wouldn't take it as gospel.

Jib Reach.Interesting. If in fact there is a kind of extortion going on then yes I can understand why some GP might prefer to stay off the board altogether. I would be interested in more details as to whether the extortion is coming from the moderators or random users. I know there is one moderator who is a real prick, but I always assumed he was a prick on the side of being overly zealous in deleting short TDs. I don't like to write a lot there, just simple thumbs up or thumbs down and this prick moderator requires a minimum amount of textual bullshit. But that is a different kind of issue from what you are hearing about 2nd hand. It can also be that some established GPS have decided the downside of one negative TD outweighs the upside of many positive TDs and even without extortion it is hard to maintain a perfect record because some clients are just aholes. Most of the time if a good provider has a bad TD its because of some misunderstanding regarding service.

As for entire topics being removed, I am curious about the detail there. I have noted that the search engine will sometimes return a link that will then lead to a "you do not have access to this topic" page, which indicates that a previously open subject is now closed. I have interpreted that as being a consequence of the more aggressive policy regarding authorization, as in there was a topic that the GP requested be shut down. But maybe there is another angle that your contacts were complaining about?

Anyway, thanks for the clarification. Any details you can share would be appreciated, perhaps PM, because I know quite a few indies and I would like to warn them to watch out for any such problems.

By no means are you stepping on any toes. It's all good.

[Member #4732]

I largely agree. Though you can find a lot of 18/19/20 yos on Twitter. Hardly at the peak of their career. Others, who have been in the business or start as independents at 25 or 26 may have come from the clinics. There are also quite a few that were fischa rosa and got tired of the fee splitting and the inability to select clients and schedules.

And, for the record, I am not experienced in this world at all, having begun my journey just about a year ago. I have been lucky in developing a couple of friendships in the "parallel universe", but that's it.

So, for anyone noting an inconsistency between me and one of the seniors like Rovnak, follow Rovnak! While what I say is true in my experience, I am not qualifies to make broad reaching generalizations.Thanks for the kind words, and for clarifying your experience. As I noted I do think your list will help. There are many types of readers on this forum. There are guys that visit regularly for several weeks at a time, and there are guys that are coming for the first time for a few days only. I think the list you provided will be of interest to many visitors. Keep posting by all means. There is a lot to be found on twitter and it will grow in importance, at least as long as twitter does not crack down on such users.

I am in the awkward position of often saying that I violate the guidelines that I recommend to visitors. I take flyers on newbies without any reviews because I have a pretty good track record of reading between the lines in their ads and chatting with them on whatsapp before meeting. But even so, I sometimes get burned. Just last week I thought I had found a hot newbie on Tinder, and while she was good looking she smelled bad and was not at all sexy in person. So I cut the session short and it was a loss. I would not recommend that tactic to a short time visitor because it has too much opportunity cost. That is why I generally recommend that short time visitors at least try the clinicas because they are more of a sure thing, and I recommend that guys staying for longer than a week experiment a bit with escorts knowing that there is a risk of deception and disappointment.

Cheers.

[HarvestBoi]

There are also quite a few that were fischa rosa and got tired of the fee splitting and the inability to select clients and schedules.
So, for anyone noting an inconsistency between me and one of the seniors like Rovnak, follow Rovnak! While what I say is true in my experience, I am not qualifies to make broad reaching generalizations.Guys like Rovnak are what make the board great for sure. And if he's a bit stern in setting us newbies straight, that's the price you pay for the benefit of his experience.

Can someone explain the fischa rosa phenomenon? I gather from previous posts that these are high end garotas that specialize in working trade shows and are available to important clients and execs but not to the general public? Since the grass always is greener, are there twitter / instagram etc accounts for these girls? How do you find out more, if possible?

[Muppets]

So I got into SP today, worn out but had to have some fun. Arranged tentatively to see Agata and Giulia who were recommended below, over the next couple of days. However, I just got back from Tangara. It's only a 15 minute walk from my Hotel, which would be ten if it wasn't a half mile detour to the closest place to cross the road, but I digress.

Dear God Almighty. That place is the nuts. I have been to various termas in Rio, albeit a while ago, Fishbowls and four floors of working girls in Singapore, RLD in Tokyo, Bangkok, but Tangara is right up there. I think it was 1900 local when I arrived, maybe ten guys waiting and I saw at least 20 chicas. Various presentations were made and there were at least 4 I would rate an 8, definitely the kinda girls I like to play hide the sausage with. A few munters and the odd shaved bear but it's all subjective. To be fair, I made the decision the moment I walked in the blue door as the girl who greeted me left me gobsmacked. Seriously. This chick could be pulling 400 euros a pop in Europe. I would happily have gone with Maya and she had a real sexy flirty air about her, but I was hooked on Jacky / Jackie the minute I saw her. I also knew it would be crap mechanical sex but you know, sometimes, you just see someone and know the sex will suck but they are so damn hot you just want to put any part of your body you can possible manage inside to any part of hers.

21 yrs old, from SP, no kids, stunning tiny spinner frame, probably 45 kilos wet with clothes on, Gorgeous face. OMG. She could have had a tattoo of trump on her ass and I woulda licked and fucked it anyway. Took the 1 hour option just because it was 150 reals instead of 100. Off to the room. She's nervous. I'm horny. Shower. Off to bed. Awkward moment lying down getting things going, she's newish I suspect and the lack of common language doesn't help. Plus, she's a 21 year old super fine brasilian chick and I'm a mid forties slightly overweight gringo who just paid to nail someone I can't even say 'excuse me dear, do you mind if I slip you the big one?' to.

Anyways, munched on those fine 18 year old hot neighbours daughter tits for a while, not allowed to DATY but oh well in this case I don't care. She gets the important part all slobbery and gives him a decent sucking, to be fair it was good, not awesome but better than I expected and I coulda left her to it and given her a drink after a while quite happily. She asks if I want the rubber on, I say no, you're a fucking goddess and I'm enjoying this, in shit spanish / portuguese mixture. After a while we get the raincoat on and down to it. Yeah, mediocre sex but OMG 20 minutes of doing mental arithmetic whilst enjoying the view to not bust my load. Every position I wanted, had her up in the air, on her back, her front, her side, cowgirl, cowgirl with me holding her up, the whole lot. She made a good effort but in the end, as I knew it would be, it wasn't great by any stretch of the imagination, but the view of her ass as she squatted over me in reverse cowgirl and I had a cheek in each hand lifting her up and down. That's going to be in the bank for a long time.

Bit of a chat afterwards, she's a bit shy but actually quite sweet. Was it worth the 150 reals? God Yes. I woulda stayed for another ride if I wasn't so dog tired. Would I pick her again? Yes, for the view, but not for the actual pleasure side of it.

So Yeah, for 150 reals and half an hour walking colour me extremely content. Tomorrow hopefully back at a better time for another go.

[Jib Reach]

Guys like Rovnak are what make the board great for sure. And if he's a bit stern in setting us newbies straight, that's the price you pay for the benefit of his experience.

Can someone explain the fischa rosa phenomenon? I gather from previous posts that these are high end garotas that specialize in working trade shows and are available to important clients and execs but not to the general public? Since the grass always is greener, are there twitter / instagram etc accounts for these girls? How do you find out more, if possible?Pretty much under the radar for mere mortals from what I understand. If you know someone higher up in a company, you can probably get introduced. If you are around, the SP auto and Boat shows are full of ficha rosa. F1 has a ton too.

[Jib Reach]

Thanks for the kind words, and for clarifying your experience. As I noted I do think your list will help. There are many types of readers on this forum. There are guys that visit regularly for several weeks at a time, and there are guys that are coming for the first time for a few days only. I think the list you provided will be of interest to many visitors. Keep posting by all means. There is a lot to be found on twitter and it will grow in importance, at least as long as twitter does not crack down on such users.

I am in the awkward position of often saying that I violate the guidelines that I recommend to visitors. I take flyers on newbies without any reviews because I have a pretty good track record of reading between the lines in their ads and chatting with them on whatsapp before meeting. But even so, I sometimes get burned. Just last week I thought I had found a hot newbie on Tinder, and while she was good looking she smelled bad and was not at all sexy in person. So I cut the session short and it was a loss. I would not recommend that tactic to a short time visitor because it has too much opportunity cost. That is why I generally recommend that short time visitors at least try the clinicas because they are more of a sure thing, and I recommend that guys staying for longer than a week experiment a bit with escorts knowing that there is a risk of deception and disappointment.

Cheers.It's really nice that you and ABG help people out so much.

And really, from my perspective, Twitter is not necessarily "better" than a clinic or boate. They are different experiences and the Twitter women fit my 50-some odd year old desires. Personally, I enjoy the social aspect of these women as much as the private aspects. Since I am reasonably fluent in Portuguese (I grew up in SP. . . Well, spent more years there than any other place in my under 18 age bracket), I have an excellent time. If on the other hand, the nightclub atmosphere blows up your skirt or the laid back attitudes of the clinics, que bom!

Let's see how this list works out and if it is popular, I can post some more.

Jib Reach.

[Sparky17]

Thank everyone for past advice. I am not having much luck out in Indaiatuba. I got stood up tonight but probably a good thing as my spidey sense was kicking in.

Anyway I reached out to some of the twitter girls and no reply.

Here is my dilemna. I can't contact ABG via PM. I am staying by airport this Thurs (also Valentine's Day in America maybe doesn't matter in Brazil as looks like that is celebrated in June in Brazil).

Anyway, I need someone to visit international chain hotel near airport on Thurs. I am going to start the photoacompanhantas but damn Sao Paolo is big like a lot of area.

Can anyone help me out?

Steve FYI the club in Campinas won't pick me up in Indaiatuba, I tried.

TIA.

[Steve 9696]

Thank everyone for past advice. I am not having much luck out in Indaiatuba. I got stood up tonight but probably a good thing as my spidey sense was kicking in.

Anyway I reached out to some of the twitter girls and no reply.

Here is my dilemna. I can't contact ABG via PM. I am staying by airport this Thurs (also Valentine's Day in America maybe doesn't matter in Brazil as looks like that is celebrated in June in Brazil).

Anyway, I need someone to visit international chain hotel near airport on Thurs. I am going to start the photoacompanhantas but damn Sao Paolo is big like a lot of area.

Can anyone help me out?

Steve FYI the club in Campinas won't pick me up in Indaiatuba, I tried.

TIA.You don't mention which airport. Do you mean GRU? I would HIGHLY recommend Mary Ninfeta (just search her on PA). She has like 40 positive reviews and they aren't kidding. Beautiful bubbly girl and an oral whirlwind.

[AltoBomGosto]

Thank everyone for past advice. I am not having much luck out in Indaiatuba. I got stood up tonight but probably a good thing as my spidey sense was kicking in.

Anyway I reached out to some of the twitter girls and no reply.

Here is my dilemna. I can't contact ABG via PM. I am staying by airport this Thurs (also Valentine's Day in America maybe doesn't matter in Brazil as looks like that is celebrated in June in Brazil).

Anyway, I need someone to visit international chain hotel near airport on Thurs. I am going to start the photoacompanhantas but damn Sao Paolo is big like a lot of area.

Can anyone help me out?

Steve FYI the club in Campinas won't pick me up in Indaiatuba, I tried.

TIA.Wich airport are you nearby?

ABG.

[Muppets]

Just spent an hour with Barbara from SPlove, I have time tomorrow lined up with Agata Muniz and some other ideas from the suggestions previously made in the works.

https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/barbara-balbek/

Gorgeous girl with a stunning figure. Be cup probably, nice curvy behind and small waist, bit taller than me but then smurfs are taller than me. Pale skin and green / blue eyes from her part German heritage. 21 year old student and model.

Speaks very little English and Spanish.

Arrived dead on time, very relaxed as she also was on whatsapp. Shoulder length straight hair now, but if it's not her in the photos I'd be amazed. The two that show under contenudo extra on her page are accurate.

Stunning full liips which she knows how to use. Kissing, touching, good wet BBBJ and of course the main course, we had a good chuckle at times and she made all the right noises. Fun time. Would definitely repeat, damage was 400 plus taxi. I am liking SP.

She does anal as an extra but its a) 200 more and b) size dependant.

[Jib Reach]

Just spent an hour with Barbara from SPlove, I have time tomorrow lined up with Agata Muniz and some other ideas from the suggestions previously made in the works.

https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/barbara-balbek/

Gorgeous girl with a stunning figure. Be cup probably, nice curvy behind and small waist, bit taller than me but then smurfs are taller than me. Pale skin and green / blue eyes from her part German heritage. 21 year old student and model.

Speaks very little English and Spanish.

Arrived dead on time, very relaxed as she also was on whatsapp. Shoulder length straight hair now, but if it's not her in the photos I'd be amazed. The two that show under contenudo extra on her page are accurate.

Stunning full liips which she knows how to use. Kissing, touching, good wet BBBJ and of course the main course, we had a good chuckle at times and she made all the right noises. Fun time. Would definitely repeat, damage was 400 plus taxi. I am liking SP.

She does anal as an extra but its a) 200 more and b) size dependant.Safado viciado! .

Trust WhatsApp was helpful and you got all the info you needed pretty quick.

[Nordico]

Today I got free a little late, went to Tangara and the place was just packed with nice looking girls, but also with customers. Lot's of foreign guys just looking the parade, the rooms continued to be full.

I was not in the mood of waiting too long for a roomIs it possible to take a girl out to the hotel, if the rooms are full, and if yes, what is the price?

[Jorge Rad10]

Pretty much under the radar for mere mortals from what I understand. If you know someone higher up in a company, you can probably get introduced. If you are around, the SP auto and Boat shows are full of ficha rosa. F1 has a ton too.Gents!

Girls from the Ficha Rosa might be a girl next door type, maybe model type, maybe passista type, etc. If the chemistry is not good the sex won't be as well. Many factors to take into consideration, prices generally are very high, but it doesn't mean the sex will be outstanding. From my own experience, I got some good experiences with Ficha Rosa's girls and other times bad experience as well, I believe many of the forumers here got the feeling with normal girls from clinicas or websites. That's my two cents.

Looking forward for my trip to SP next week.

[AltoBomGosto]

Is it possible to take a girl out to the hotel, if the rooms are full, and if yes, what is the price?I know that there is a four hours outcall for 600 reais in cash. Please ask Takuma for details.

[AltoBomGosto]

I'm just coming out from Tangara, met a nice Capixaba Mulata, Leticia is her name, it's her fourth day at TG.

Great GFE, DFK, BBBJ, and CIM.

Didn't have vaginal sex because some other customer hurt her. I came twice CIM also she had two orgasms with the dildo.

No waiting for a room, but I came in at 2 PM.

If somebody wants a TD with a nice mulata, 19 yo, slim nice body nice tities, she's the one!

ABG.

[Sniperbr]

Hi,

I will be in Sao Paulo on a Sunday. Top places I know of are closed on Sundays (Scandallo, Bomboa, Cafe photo, The Palms). Any suggestions? Looking for high end experience.

[WyattEarp]

For twitter contact, a couple of suggestions.
1) Do not try to negotiate. If you do, they will block you or ignore you.
2) Be objective. Just say you got their number on Twitter, think they look nice, would like to know more about meeting them. They get hundreds of messages a day that are "colorful". They get ignored.
3) Don't send or ask for pictures.
4) Don't flake. If you decide not to show, give notice. As much as possible. No shows may show up on a centralized black list.I wanted to reiterate what Jib Reach stated above. The most effective approach is to just immediately start off by saying you want to see them Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday afternoon (example for reference). The popular escorts have a lot of "admirers" who only want to have erotic chit-chat with beautiful women. Sometimes you can find the current price and services on the internet.

Here are the rules of engagement (translated & abridged) of an escort I will recommend in a following post:

- Only communicates via Whatsapp.
- Does not answer calls.
- For security purposes, if you do not have a photo in your Whatsapp profile, send a photo. (She promises discretion.).
- Hours she works.

And finally here is a real common sense approach for communication when she is busy. Remember she's not waiting for Prince ISG to contact her. LOL.

In her translated words:
"If you send me a message and I do not answer it within the 1 hour period, I ask for your understanding because I am busy. So if I see 2,3 hours later I WILL NOT ANSWER MORE! Because you probably have changed the plans. If you prefer to quote in your message until hours I can return without compromising you. " THIS FUCKIN' MAKES SENSE so don't send her ten texts in two hours. And tell her exactly what you want and how long she has to get back to you. Also give her some advance notice.

I'm going to say this politely as possible without it directed at anyone in particular. Some of you are idiots. You couldn't organize a play date for your dog. Clear and concise communication is required on Whatsapp.

[WyattEarp]

I'm surprised that there isn't more info on gpguia about high end (and highly promoted) garotas like this. For example Nick Rosa has 2 reviews that I could find. One great and one horrible. 800 Reis, the same as a Scandallo girl! What am I to thinkThat's odd. Nick Rosa is well-established and once was one of the most reviewed (positively) women on Gpguia. As far as pricing, it doesn't hurt to Whatsapp anyone. I think her price is probably closer to 500-600 Reais.

[Jib Reach]

I wanted to reiterate what Jib Reach stated above. The most effective approach is to just immediately start off by saying you want to see them Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday afternoon (example for reference). The popular escorts have a lot of "admirers" who only want to have erotic chit-chat with beautiful women. Sometimes you can find the current price and services on the internet.

Here are the rules of engagement (translated & abridged) of an escort I will recommend in a following post:

- Only communicates via Whatsapp.
- Does not answer calls.
- For security purposes, if you do not have a photo in your Whatsapp profile, send a photo. (She promises discretion.).
- Hours she works.

And finally here is a real common sense approach for communication when she is busy. Remember she's not waiting for Prince ISG to contact her. LOL..Here's another provider:

"Quando me abordam no whatssap:

"Quanto é o programa?

Eu penso:

Qual a dificuldade de ser educado e gentil, com o próximo?

Cadê o "Oi? Tudo bem? Gostaria por gentileza de saber as informações do seu serviço, poderia me passar?

Simples, Gentil e direto. Eu melo a calcinha!

Basically.

When you get me on Whatsapp and just ask how much is the program, I think:

Why's it so difficult to be civilized and nice?

Where's the "Hi! How are you? I would kindly like to know more about about your services. Could you pass them along?

Simple, kind and direct. And I sweeten my panties with honey. "

Who wants honey?

[Jib Reach]

That's odd. Nick Rosa is well-established and once was one of the most reviewed (positively) women on Gpguia. As far as pricing, it doesn't hurt to Whatsapp anyone. I think her price is probably closer to 500-600 Reais.This is what I was saying earlier. There have been some odd things happening at GP Guia since last spring (fall there).

Jib Reach.

[Sparky17]

Wich airport are you nearby?

ABG.ABG and Steve.

I am staying by GRU airport.

When we landed we drove pass the international hotel chain we are staying at. It is out of the way so I got even more nervous like nothing is going to happen.

What city should I put in the search bar? I have noticed Jardins / Sao Paolo / the G city can't spell it right now.

Thank you all for help by the way.

You all ever come to TX I got you covered.

[Jib Reach]

Hi,

I will be in Sao Paulo on a Sunday. Top places I know of are closed on Sundays (Scandallo, Bomboa, Cafe photo, The Palms). Any suggestions? Looking for high end experience.There was just a discussion (that's actually continuing) over the past few days. Read a little bit. . . . It'll be helpful.

Jib Reach.

[WyattEarp]

Here are two "spinners" I can recommend. They have outstanding reviews and qualify as true spinners in terms of height.

https://twitter.com/deboradrumondsp

Debora offers anal and as you can see has a pretty face.

https://twitter.com/MayarahAlencar

If you go deep into her Twitter photos, you can get glimpses of her face. I like her natural form and her tight, bubble butt.

[AltoBomGosto]

Hi,

I will be in Sao Paulo on a Sunday. Top places I know of are closed on Sundays (Scandallo, Bomboa, Cafe photo, The Palms). Any suggestions? Looking for high end experience.Tangara will be the best option, least Sunday they were over 30 girls avaliable.

[AltoBomGosto]

That's odd. Nick Rosa is well-established and once was one of the most reviewed (positively) women on Gpguia. As far as pricing, it doesn't hurt to Whatsapp anyone. I think her price is probably closer to 500-600 Reais.I met her at one of our pool parties, she seamed wery alike of her photos, very GFE.

[Muppets]

So the big problem I have here in SP is too much choice, well that and not enough time free. You guys have been awesome in giving recommendations too, and I feel kinda bad that I've gone off reservation and ended up meeting people that weren't recommended.

At times, I have pretty distinct tastes, and last night I decided to try Areta Bueno. Not at the top of many people's lists I suspect, but there is something that drew me to her.

https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/areta-bueno/

Probably helps that she looks very much like a girl I knew at uni years ago. Anyways. All arranged fine via whatsapp, no messing around and we agreed on her visitng my hotel. I was going to go to Tangara but it was late and raining.

Photos are a good reflection of her, obviously as ever the photoshopping has removed every pore or texture! But yes she looks just like on the page mostly.

So how was it. Well, you know sometimes you meet a girl and you think. This one is trouble? You just get a feeling that if you went to a bar with her at some point something would go horribly wrong, or she'd end up starting a fight, or wanting to sit on the hood of a cop car and take selfies. That kinda girl? This is one of those. She is sexy and very confident, which in itself is attractive, but she does project an air of contained chaos which makes me a little uncomfortable at times. She was chatty and funny and we had a chuckle, tho I did notice the dead eye hooker eyes, which was a little sad and surprising.

Anyways, chatting, kissing, had a beer, everything fine, though when she said BJ is only with a hat on. Disappointed but ok. Not a bad BJ. I was very much enjoying the view of her curves and those small perky tits.

She gets on top and squeezes it in. She's tight and it feels good. Very energetic chica. Likes it firm shall we say, she's not a give it to me softly whilst nibbling my ears kinda girl. The sex was good, she's either a good actress (probably) or we had a chemical connection on some level but it was good sticky sweaty fun. By the end we'd been around the room and I was exhausted, so she finished me off by hand over her tits with a finger where the sun doesn't shine.

So yeah, it was fun, but I'm not sure I would repeat just because she gives off that slightly chaotic vibe and is a bit random. If I did it would be at her place rather than in my hotel where I have colleagues etc just in case.

Definitely a good fuck tho. She's got a decent body, no fat but also not super toned, just regular.

[Muppets]

Just had an hour with Agata.

https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/agata-muniz/

And my balls are now like raisins from all this activity.

First things first and I shoulda known. When the face isn't in the pics it's because it's not their top feature. She's not ugly but if you need to look at the mantelpiece when you poke the fire move along.

However, early 30's, great body, not overly toned but no fat, and nice bolt ONS. GREAT GFE attitude. We clicked I felt, I really enjoyed my time with her, very relaxed with a slow start and frenzied end.

One caution. She has a HUGE clitoris. I mean HUGE. Like, if you are unsure of your sexuality you don't want to fuck this chick HUGE. It's about an inch and a half when she's turned on with a head that pokes out of its hood. Never seen one like that, but it responds well when sucked and licked and we had a great 69 in which I ended up smothered in juices which she sucked and licked off my face.

Didn't get around to anal because I ended up having to finish up and deal with some shit as my phone would not stop. However, the sex was excellent and I would happily repeat. Enthusiastic, responsive, makes all the right noises and the rubber was covered in lady juice when we finished up.

Very satisfied, just a shame she's not so pretty but meh who cares at the end of the day if you have a good time. Damn that clit is MASSIVE. It probably has it's own weather system and gravity.

[Jib Reach]

Just had an hour with Agata.

https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/agata-muniz/

And my balls are now like raisins from all this activity.

First things first and I shoulda known. When the face isn't in the pics it's because it's not their top feature. She's not ugly but if you need to look at the mantelpiece when you poke the fire move along.Glad you had a good time!

This comment could be a bit misleading though understandable. Ágata is considered a classic Brasileira of Portuguese, Italian heritage. Typically, she is described as stunning.

But you are correct, she is not the epitome of northern hemisphere, western beauty.

Keep the stories coming!

Job Reach.

[Muppets]

Here are two "spinners" I can recommend. They have outstanding reviews and qualify as true spinners in terms of height.

https://twitter.com/deboradrumondsp

Debora offers anal and as you can see has a pretty face.

https://twitter.com/MayarahAlencar

If you go deep into her Twitter photos, you can get glimpses of her face. I like her natural form and her tight, bubble butt.I got in touch with Deborah, sadly she does not do outcall and specifies that she also does not see anyone above average. Shame, she is hot as fuck.

[WyattEarp]

I got in touch with Deborah, sadly she does not do outcall and specifies that she also does not see anyone above average.Above average? Are you talking about your junk?

[Muppets]

Above average? Are you talking about your junk?Not directly LOL but her words were I don't visit houses/apartments/hotels and I don't see anyone above average.
I assume she means for anal but maybe I am wrong.

In my limited experience if a woman says 'yeah I do anal but not if it's big or bigger or bla bla' it basically means. 'I'm not going to do anal and this is my get out' and I don't risk it, and I am not huge by any circumstances.

Which is fine, it's not the end of the world. She is damn fine looking and maybe tomorrow I will anyway, not sure yet. May actually have to do some work. But since I asked what she does and that's what she said, I am feeding it back, didn't mean to sound difficult or ungrateful, you guys have been hugely helpful regarding my trip here and I genuinely feel a little bad that I haven't been off fucking everyone that has been recommended to me.

Please don't take that as sarcasm, the written word and spoken word are so distinct and I am being genuine, but at the same time my dick wants what it wants...


Also, has anyone been to innerclub, marrakesh or asha, the swingers clubs? Tempted to head to one later if I'm not too tired and wondered what people's thoughts were.

[Jib Reach]

Not directly LOL but her words were I don't visit houses/apartments/hotels and I don't see anyone above average.
I assume she means for anal but maybe I am wrong.

In my limited experience if a woman says 'yeah I do anal but not if it's big or bigger or bla bla' it basically means. 'I'm not going to do anal and this is my get out' and I don't risk it, and I am not huge by any circumstances.

Which is fine, it's not the end of the world. She is damn fine looking and maybe tomorrow I will anyway, not sure yet. May actually have to do some work. But since I asked what she does and that's what she said, I am feeding it back, didn't mean to sound difficult or ungrateful, you guys have been hugely helpful regarding my trip here and I genuinely feel a little bad that I haven't been off fucking everyone that has been recommended to me.

Please don't take that as sarcasm, the written word and spoken word are so distinct and I am being genuine, but at the same time my dick wants what it wants...


Also, has anyone been to innerclub, marrakesh or asha, the swingers clubs? Tempted to head to one later if I'm not too tired and wondered what people's thoughts were.There are dozens like her. Try Athena. Or Eva. Both listed below.

[Muppets]

Glad you had a good time!

This comment could be a bit misleading though understandable. gata is considered a classic Brasileira of Portuguese, Italian heritage. Typically, she is described as stunning.

But you are correct, she is not the epitome of northern hemisphere, western beauty.

Keep the stories coming!

Job Reach.Yes, you are correct, and I did not mean to suggest she is ugly, far from it, however (and it is totally subjective) when you see others who show their faces in their ads, in my opinion (and it is ONLY my opinion), she is not up there with the lookers. That's the problem with trying to report experiences. It is ALL subjective and depends as much on he who writes as he who reads and their experiences. I am more used to N hemisphere and Asia so my expectations perhaps differ and that is not her fault.

However. Regardless I had a great time and we have spent the past few hours exchanging messages (initiated by her) and I am seriously considering seeing her again later or tomorrow. These things are subjective and I didn't mean to be disrespectful. I can be a bit 'train of thought' when posting which is maybe a little unfair.

[Muppets]

So tomorrow is my last day in SP until maybe returning in April.

Later I will get to Tangara if it doesn't rain some more, I hope so.

Meanwhile with all the stunners with beach bodies and huge tits that are recommended, I am drawn to these two.

https://www.clubmodel.com.br/sao-paulo-sp/acompanhantes/melanie

https://www.clubmodel.com.br/sao-paulo-sp/acompanhantes/manuela_hesse

I know I'm weird, I can live with that. I have odd taste. I really really want to meet Giulia, Nick Rossa and some other perfect 10's but somehow I am more drawn to slightly leftfield girls.

I've spoken briefly with both already, and Manuela has her face on her whatsapp profile, she's a good looking woman. Melanie really floats my boat too. Just wondered if anyone had experience of either? Maybe a long shot, I guess neither is what most of us would select as our fantasy.

Honestly, SP is a living hell. So much choice so little time and money. Goddamn it if I won the lottery I'd die here happy and riddled with the clap. First world problems.

[Jib Reach]

So tomorrow is my last day in SP until maybe returning in April.

Later I will get to Tangara if it doesn't rain some more, I hope so.

Meanwhile with all the stunners with beach bodies and huge tits that are recommended, I am drawn to these two.

https://www.clubmodel.com.br/sao-paulo-sp/acompanhantes/melanie

https://www.clubmodel.com.br/sao-paulo-sp/acompanhantes/manuela_hesse

I know I'm weird, I can live with that. I have odd taste. I really really want to meet Giulia, Nick Rossa and some other perfect 10's but somehow I am more drawn to slightly leftfield girls..Not weird! Just what floats your boat.

Good that you had a good time!

Here's a couple much younger, more "spinnerish" and, well, you can figure it out.

Hopefully Jackson will see this before you leave and post it as I still don't have status for an auto post.

Jib Reach.

https://twitter.com/sophiemalkova

https://twitter.com/CleoBaby4

https://twitter.com/MilaSwitcher

[Muppets]

Thanks dude!

I will never have enough time to try them but am planning on coming back for a few days in April so we shall see what I line up, I've added them on twitter.

Walked up to Tangara earlier, about 1945, it's only a ten minute walk from here.

Only about 6 guys in the waiting area, maybe ten to twenty girls around, hard to be sure on the walk from the door to the waiting area. Couple of nice ones on the lineup, I went with Raquel, a petite SP girl with long hair, green / blue eyes and a moderate bumbum, to be fair I picked her because her face was the double of an ex of mine (crazy psycho coke snorting hose beast that she was, nothing sucks so much as coming home from work after a week away to a trashed flat an a dealer wanting 2 k) and she does BBBJ with CIM and I really just wanted to sink it in those lips. Gorgeous.

Had to wait half an hour for a room, though the asian ish looking manager who remembered me from Monday (even managed to guess the city I am from while we were chatting) said it would be ten minutes. Meanwhile a constant stream of chicas came upstairs. Hence the low numbers, private event on. Party of some sort. Oh my god at least 4 8-10's came upstairs while we were waiting. Jokingly told the manager that when I come back in April I want a party like that and he said Is it your Birthday in April and I said, if you send those girls, it's my birthday whenever fucking suits. Dear God.

Good guy, was a chuckle. Of course I'm sure if I behaved like an asshole he'd have the hired muscle beat me to a pulp in a heartbeat but meh, I have no plans to be a dick in there.

Anyways, downstairs we went eventually, in the room next to the party, shower, down to business. Not the best boltons, over the muscle rather than under or maybe it's the other way around I don't know, I'm not a surgeon, I just know what looks good to me, but she has a hot body, compact (she's pretty short without the heels) but with killer curves. Honestly, I was surprised at how things developed. Being unable to speak much portuguese, it was a bit awkward waiting around without being able to chat but once we were on the bed things were different, she did a damn good BBBJ nice and wet with lots of eye contact and nice and deep, plenty attention to the twins, a bit of pussy play. And in the end when she told me to cum in her mouth I felt I had to oblige or it would perhaps cause a diplomatic incident. Hour went by in a blink of an eye. Kinda wish I had rolled one on and gone to work but I was really enjoying her labours, and having read a few of ABG's reports about just going for the BJ I was kinda thinking lying back and enjoying myself is the way to go.

Got upstairs and went to pay, the guy on the desk says 100 and I had to get him to confirm twice. 100. Honestly. Why am I even bothering doing anything except going to Tangara. 100 fucking reals. This place is win.

So yeah, I am digging Tangara, even if those fuckers having the party were hogging all the honeys. Didn't get a proper look in the room downstairs where the action was but there were a lot of people.

[HarvestBoi]

Great description of the Tangara vibe!

I hung out with ABG downstairs but at the picnic table outside the party room downstairs, near the girls lockers. Very chill scene. ABG introduced me to some very cool Sampa mongers too. Now that I think of it, for what I paid for my dupla with scandallo garotas, I'the imagine quite a party at Tangara!! Something to plan for the next visit.

SP has more pussy than one man has dick for real.

Hb.


Thanks dude!

I will never have enough time to try them but am planning on coming back for a few days in April so we shall see what I line up, I've added them on twitter.

Walked up to Tangara earlier, about 1945, it's only a ten minute walk from here.

Only about 6 guys in the waiting area, maybe ten to twenty girls around, hard to be sure on the walk from the door to the waiting area. Couple of nice ones on the lineup, I went with Raquel, a petite SP girl with long hair, green / blue eyes and a moderate bumbum, to be fair I picked her because her face was the double of an ex of mine (crazy psycho coke snorting hose beast that she was, nothing sucks so much as coming home from work after a week away to a trashed flat an a dealer wanting 2 k) and she does BBBJ with CIM and I really just wanted to sink it in those lips. Gorgeous.

Had to wait half an hour for a room, though the asian ish looking manager who remembered me from Monday (even managed to guess the city I am from while we were chatting) said it would be ten minutes. Meanwhile a constant stream of chicas came upstairs. Hence the low numbers, private event on. Party of some sort. Oh my god at least 4 8-10's came upstairs while we were waiting. Jokingly told the manager that when I come back in April I want a party like that and he said Is it your Birthday in April and I said, if you send those girls, it's my birthday whenever fucking suits. Dear God.

Good guy, was a chuckle. Of course I'm sure if I behaved like an asshole he'd have the hired muscle beat me to a pulp in a heartbeat but meh, I have no plans to be a dick in there.

Anyways, downstairs we went eventually, in the room next to the party, shower, down to business. Not the best boltons, over the muscle rather than under or maybe it's the other way around I don't know, I'm not a surgeon, I just know what looks good to me, but she has a hot body, compact (she's pretty short without the heels) but with killer curves. Honestly, I was surprised at how things developed. Being unable to speak much portuguese, it was a bit awkward waiting around without being able to chat but once we were on the bed things were different, she did a damn good BBBJ nice and wet with lots of eye contact and nice and deep, plenty attention to the twins, a bit of pussy play. And in the end when she told me to cum in her mouth I felt I had to oblige or it would perhaps cause a diplomatic incident. Hour went by in a blink of an eye. Kinda wish I had rolled one on and gone to work but I was really enjoying her labours, and having read a few of ABG's reports about just going for the BJ I was kinda thinking lying back and enjoying myself is the way to go.

Got upstairs and went to pay, the guy on the desk says 100 and I had to get him to confirm twice. 100. Honestly. Why am I even bothering doing anything except going to Tangara. 100 fucking reals. This place is win.

So yeah, I am digging Tangara, even if those fuckers having the party were hogging all the honeys. Didn't get a proper look in the room downstairs where the action was but there were a lot of people.

[AltoBomGosto]

Great description of the Tangara vibe!

I hung out with ABG downstairs but at the picnic table outside the party room downstairs, near the girls lockers. Very chill scene. ABG introduced me to some very cool Sampa mongers too. Now that I think of it, for what I paid for my dupla with scandallo garotas, I'the imagine quite a party at Tangara!! Something to plan for the next visit.

SP has more pussy than one man has dick for real.

Hb.Yesterday I spoke to Raissa, from EV, she told me there will be, on the 22 Feb a pre Carnaval strip party with lots of Tangará girls expected to be there after 11 pm.

There will be a blow job tent, you can do a CIM in the tent and a complete in one of the rooms.

ABG.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Snip. Got upstairs and went to pay, the guy on the desk says 100 and I had to get him to confirm twice. 100. Honestly. Why am I even bothering doing anything except going to Tangara. 100 fucking reals. This place is win.

So yeah, I am digging Tangara, even if those fuckers having the party were hogging all the honeys. Didn't get a proper look in the room downstairs where the action was but there were a lot of people.An hour is 150 real. Either you didn't stay an hour or the guy at the desk fucked up. Don't expect the latter to happen again.

[Muppets]

An hour is 150 real. Either you didn't stay an hour or the guy at the desk fucked up. Don't expect the latter to happen again.Yeah that's what I thought, I'll mention it to him later. It was 150 the previous visit but I wondered if it was less for not fucking maybe.

[Member #4732]

Yeah that's what I thought, I'll mention it to him later. It was 150 the previous visit but I wondered if it was less for not fucking maybe.No, its 100 half, 150 hour. But even if you tell them ahead of time that you want 1 hour, they will still ring the phone in the room at the half hour mark and if you are not paying attention to the time you may think it was an hour when it was really only half. Or alternatively they made a mistake when you left after a full hour.

Anyway, to your point about the "Honestly. Why am I even bothering doing anything except going to Tangara. " . exactly. This is why I recommend that new visitors start out at the clinicas and only move on to escorts if you do not find the clinica experience or choice sufficient for your objectives. There is no need to spend more than necessary. I prefer to book 2 hours with freelancers at my place because I prefer the convenience and the deeper connection that this allows, without anybody ringing a phone in the room. But if I wanted just quick sex I would go to a clinica. And if I was looking for a particular "look" I would go to various clinicas before calling an escort because I don't trust the escort photos to be representative. So it all depends on one's objectives.

As for your girl with the big clit. It usually, thought not always, means she has done anabolic steroids in an attempt to body build. Though in her case, her photos looked pretty petite so I am not sure if that was her story.

[Member #4732]

I noticed an uptick in new profiles on photoacompanhantes.com which is usually a good thing. But I also noticed that many of the new ones are of young, new providers who also accept credit card payment. I have mentioned this before as a yellow flag, that may indicate this is an escort agency pretending to be a free lancer. Some have suggested that its easy for ladies to do CC handling, and perhaps it is. It does not surprise me to see 25 year oldsand up doing this but it surprises me when supposedly new providers of 19 and 20 in age are handling CC. Particularly when the ad says the lady is in the more upscale area like Jardins. It suggests to me that an agency is outfitting them, or the agency is using false photos and will send whoever they want.

This is just a heads up. It does not mean avoid any ad that has CC should be avoided. However, if you see an ad that does NOT accept CC, that is a pretty reliable indicator that the lady is a true free lancer and not part of an agency.

[ArmnHammer69]

Coming to Sao Paulo on a Tuesday, Wednesday will Scandallo be any good? Also looking to find some escorts that specialize in deep-throat blowjob but having trouble finding some. Any help would be great.

[WyattEarp]

.............gata is considered a classic Brasileira of Portuguese, Italian heritage. Typically, she is described as stunning.

But you are correct, she is not the epitome of northern hemisphere, western beauty.Brasil has an extremely diverse, immigrant population so any attempts at generalization (on my part) will always have exceptions. Jib Reach is correct many Brazilian morenas (brunettes) could be encapsulated in what one may call a Mediterranean look with perhaps some dashes of Black and Native.

I think when newbie Brazilian mongers here state they prefer a "European" girl they might be influenced by the famous Brazilian runway models who look like they could have been raised in Central or Eastern Europe. This is why these mongers are routinely told to go to Sao Paulo or Florianopolis and the Southeast where the Germanic blood is more pronounced. In my mind, model Adriana Lima from the Northeast is more representative of Brasileiras, but really she's a very diverse mix.

If you are looking for that "European" beauty, escort Sara Müller is the epitome of such a description. She is obviously thin and does not have the classic Brasileira curves. The name Müller is obviously a Germanic name.

For myself, I enjoy the diversity of Brazil. Regardless of race and ethnicity, I'm almost always drawn to the girls with a nice smile and more curves than what you commonly see in North America and Europe. Variety is the spice of life my friends.

[Member #4732]

Brasil has an extremely diverse, immigrant population so any attempts at generalization (on my part) always will have exceptions. Jib Reach is correct many Brazilian morenas (brunettes) could be encapsulated in what one may call a Mediterranean look with perhaps some dashes of Black and Native.

I think when newbie Brazilian mongers here state they prefer a "European" girl they might be influenced by the famous Brazilian runway models who look like they could have been raised in Central or Eastern Europe. This is why these mongers are routinely told to go to Sao Paulo or Florianopolis and the Southeast where the Germanic blood is more pronounced..I guess it depends on when you grew up and what your media influences were. As someone over 50, I grew up with an image of the dusky Brazilian morena with long black hair and brown skin. That was and still is my ideal Brazilian look, which I think is particularly Brazilian (and Venezuelan). I say "particularly Brazilian" because this look is not easily found elsewhere and is absolutely stunning when it all comes together nicely, the mix of Amerindian, African and European beauty. The pure European look, jeez, go to Europe LOL, but to each his own.

Beauty is an interesting topic. Muppets wrote that when escorts don't show their face in the ad it is because it is not their strongest feature. Sometimes this is true. Many times its just that they do not want to compromise their identity because they are students, or mothers or justifiably protective of their privacy. I completely understand their motives. However, I do think that when the face is not visible, there is a tendency on the part of the viewer to IMAGINE a beautiful face. I know I do, I cannot help imagining a beautiful face. And I am usually disappointed that the real face does is not anywhere near as beautiful as my imagined face. This often happens when they show part of the face, like the mouth and chin and I think "wow, that must be a beautiful face, I can see nearly all of it and I love it! Then they show up and I think "how can the whole face not be as beautiful as the bottom half seemed to be?" Its really astonishing how powerfully we complete a partial image.

The other day Chanes sent out a bunch of hot looking photos, so I went to check out the lineup. In all cases the ladies were a few kilos thicker than their photos. This is the only downside, well in addition to the overdone boob jobs, Brazil has a weight problem. Its very rare to see a woman over 23 that is not a few kilos over the line. Its a shame because it really changes them from being "lookers" to being "ordinary". The mania for "mulheräo" is partly to blame, as is the diet. Still there are more than enough beauties if one has patience and effort.

[Muppets]

Yes, it does, and it's amazing that it is like that. There really is something for everyone here.

Sara Muller is on my list near the top, in fact, Just as I am typing I'm looking at some work stuff and gutted to see that from the end of March I won't be able to come back here. Which means this is my second and last time in SP for the forseeable. Gutted.

Back to Mexico and Chile for my Latina fix. Which reminds me, I need to write up my thoughts after 20 trips to Santiago at some point.

Meanwhile, time for some food then a send off trip to Tangara later to cheer me up since I now know I won't be back in April.

[Jib Reach]

Yes, it does, and it's amazing that it is like that. There really is something for everyone here.

Sara Muller is on my list near the top, in fact, Just as I am typing I'm looking at some work stuff and gutted to see that from the end of March I won't be able to come back here. Which means this is my second and last time in SP for the forseeable. Gutted.

Back to Mexico and Chile for my Latina fix. Which reminds me, I need to write up my thoughts after 20 trips to Santiago at some point.

Meanwhile, time for some food then a send off trip to Tangara later to cheer me up since I now know I won't be back in April.Today's entertainment? Anyone we should know about?

[WyattEarp]

In the same category of beauty as Sara Muller, I can recommend Rebeca Goya. Rebeca is close to 30 but is a beautiful woman and very, very highly rated. When Rovnak mentioned the GP ladder*, I thought of her. I saw her several years ago. As her reputation spread, her prices climbed. Now her prices have moderated with her age. So a rapid climb up and a bit back down in demand, but a great pro nonetheless. She is also known for her duos. I'm not sure, but she might be into both women and men.

https://twitter.com/RebecaGoya

Here's a pretty face that's on my radar. She only has two reviews but all very positive. Perhaps someone wants to take a flyer at 600 Reais.

https://twitter.com/valentinauniv

* Rovnak's Ladder not to be confused with Jacob's Ladder or the Corporate Ladder.

[Muppets]

Damn dude now I know that until at least next November I won't be coming back, you are just teasing me.

If anyone is at Tangara later I'll be there from about 1930 local for a few hours, grey cap green Superdry shirt, trying to stick it in everything attractive before leaving. .

[AltoBomGosto]

I went to Tangara today, arrived there at 1 PM, the house was empty of mongers who will be seated at the sofas, the garotas call then "Shimbadores" the guys who keep seated and do not call a garota for action.

I went with Babi Gibi, 22 yo red hair caucasian origin, very GFE, excellent BBBJ great CIM. Very nice looking tattoos on her body.

We remained only on BBBJ / CIM came twice in one hour! I DATY her and she also had two orgasms.

ABG.

[Muppets]

Babi Gibi sounds awesome. Damn sorry I couldn't go earlier would have loved to try her.

I just got back, arrived around 1945 and stayed until 2115.

First round with Isa, petite 25 YO with a few tattoos. Not the best face but a lovely little round ass. Decent BBBJ and energetic sex where she didn't stop flicking the bean until she (I assume it was real) convulsed and finished. Decent warmup, I just went for the ass / hip / waist view in doggy. She loves watching in the mirror.

Smoke / water break then went for round two with Yasmin. 26 YO, tiny waist and lovely curvy ass / hips, like Isa she's small and inked. Nice dragon tattoo.

Excellent BBBJ and rimming, she ate me like I was a happy meal, with mayonnaise at the end. Nice girl, very chilled out, pretty and fun. Would defo do again.

With that end my trip to SP, hope to get back but it's unlikely until winter. Shame, it's been great.

Just want to thank all you guys for your suggestions and input, I genuinely feel a bit bad that I didn't try them all, but it is appreciated and I will get thru some of them when I get a chance to return if they are still around.

Cheers!

[AltoBomGosto]

Muppets, congratulations on your objective post telling the names of the garotas you have banged.

One question: you went with Yasmin Mulatinha our Yasmin Loira?

I hope to see you again on your next trip.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

After returning from Tangara and taking a nap, I decided to pay a visit to my friend Raissa, the boss of the house.

I arrived at 10:45 pm. There were the following girls at the house:

Giovanna Morena.

Hellen from TG.

Samantha.

Lola.

Paty.

Paloma.

Talita.

Choose Hellen, a white caucasian girl, must be 30 yo, very GFE, excellent DFK, very good BBBJ / CIM.

After one hour in the room, we left exhausted.

New girls arrived after midnight:

Bella
Mellissa
Maly
Brenda
Leticia
Ingrid
Stefani
Suzy ( beginner)
Luiza ( beginner)

As I reported before, the peak hour at the house is around midnight.

Next Sunday the house will be open from noon till 8 pm.

PM me for details

ABG.

[ManoSampa]

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[Thunder5]

This trip report is from a perspective, of a once a year monger dude, visiting Sao Paolo for first time. I essentially stayed 4 nights. (with a visit to Iguazu Falls for 3 nights in the middle.). Iguazu Falls, was fantastic! But, YES, Sao Paulo is indeed a "TOP MONGER DESTINATION" and should be on your PLACE TO VISIT LIST similar to RIO DE JANIERO, FKK GLOBE in Zurich, Medellin and Cartagena in Colombia, Costa Rica, and BARCELONA. (I've only listed places I've been so far. That I give A+ ratings to). (Frankfurt, Angkor what, Manila don't get A+ ratings, hence not on my A+ list). And I speak mucho poquito Spanish, and zero Portugese, So "YOU" . "CAN" . "DO" . "IT".

A. Things I did before leaving:

Be. Got a visa as a US citizen. Use the vfs. Cost is about $40 US and mine took about 5 days from application to when I got the visa via email. One person said the visa was good for 1 year, but my visa says it's good for TWO YEARS! (I'm coming back baby!

See. I did not register for Gpguia. I did not study Portugese. And I already have UBER and WhatsApp downloaded, on my phone. I did use google translate a lot.

The. I did contact 4 ISG members by PM for tips and advice. All 4 members I contacted, responded quickly with advice, or tips. (THANKS GUYS!) .

E. I did read 60 pages of ISG Sao Paulo notes.

Once I got to Sao Paulo:

A. LODGING- I stayed at Mecure Sao Paulo Moema on 365 Avenida Lavandisca for 2 nights, Mercure Sao Paulo Pampona for 1 night, and Mercure Sao Paulo Moema Times Square for 2 nights. All 3 hotels were girl friendly. The girls did not need to check in. One time the clerk called, saying BRUNA is coming up, and I said ok. The other time I just came down to meet my girl and we simply walked to the elevator and up to my room.

Be. PHONE SERVICE- I have T-Mobile in USA. The wireless plan worked fine in Sao Paulo and Iguazu Falls area too. No need to get a SIM card or whatever, if you have T-Mobile plan at home in USA, you will be fine.

See. UBER- Uber worked fine everywhere on my phone. Whats app worked fine everywhere I was at. Uber is Dirt cheap. Easy. From the airport. (Just go to the inner island platform after crossing half a street on arrivals floor). There's a UBER BLACK POLE SIGN, stand next to it, and order your UBER.

The. MONEY EXCHANGE- Do not use the single stand ATM directly next to the baggage claim area. Wait until you exit customs area sliding doors, before you withdraw money from an ATM. There are like 10-12 ATMS right next to each other, within the airport terminal, on the arrivals floor, after you pass the customs area. It was to my left, (and the street exit was to my right), when I left the customs area. I used my Charles Schwab debit card. ATM's were easy to find within the Shopping Malls and within the Large Grocery stores of Moema and Jardins areas.

E. Sao Paulo Free Walking Tours. I really enjoyed the Free Walking Graffiti walking tour. There's 3 walking tours on offer every day, of the week, by the free walking tour company. Just google Free Walking tour, and go to the meeting spot stated on website. It's. THAT. EASY! I did the Graffiti one which is really good. And the Paulista Ave one which is okay. Didn't have time to do the old town historical one.

My first 24 hours went well in Sao Paulo end of January. In that 24 hours after landing at 10 pm, I would visit Casarao at 1 am Friday night, Tangara at 1 pm Saturday the next day. Then a 7 pm Saturday night visit with an Independent escort Rangel Carlos, a 10 pm visit to Bahamas club on a dead Holiday Saturday Jan 26 night, and a 1 am visit to Scandallo on a dead Holiday Saturday Jan 26 night. Despite the less volume of hotties, (because it was a January 25 holiday weekend), I still had a blast in that first 24 hours.

It was also very helpful to hang out with ISG member GoneFishing, who I was able to contact by PM on the ISG website. Thanks ISG for "landing me another friend". (Despite it being a holiday, Casarao was pretty damn packed though, volume girls number wise. I say 60-80 girls that Friday night of that Jan 25 Holiday weekend). (The actual holiday is called Sao Paulo Foundation Day).

The venues I visited in the first 24 hours:

Casarao is $20 R to enter without drinks, and $40 R with a consumable $20 R drink.

Tangara has cheap bar right across the street. I had 1 or 2 beers at the tiny store across street. (They also deliver beers to you inside Tangara).

Saw Indepedent Escort at her place. Rangel Carlos. $500 R ($131 US).

Scandallo - $250 R to enter. Don't forget your ID. $150 of $250 R is consumable. Girls quoted $600 to $800 Reals. (In US dollar terms, "it's" $158 US to $210 US PLUS the $53 US room you have to pay for)!. So I kept on thinking. Is this Scandallo girl worth $211 US to $263 US, when I had a "hot" Casarao girl the prior night for $65 US. Sorry that thought was always in the back of my mind for some reason.

I'll give my actual DETAILED report on each of the 3 girls I had in a couple of days I hope. But my monger session scores were 91 out of 100 with Julia at Casarao. 82 out of 100 with Juju at Tangara. And 95/100 with the independent escort Rangel Carlos. (And the prices were 250 real, 100 real, and 500 real respectively).

ONE STRATEGY TO USE: I guess, I will cut to the chase on one strategy you could use when visiting Sao Paolo as the "in SP for a quick visit" type of monger. This is just one strategy, but a least you will know quickly, if you are a Scandallo guy, a Casarao guy, and Tangara guy, or a Independent escort guy. I think I'm a 40% Casarao guy, 20% Scandallo, 20% Tangara, 20% Independent Escort guy. Let me try to explain.

I think the perfect strategy, is to go to Scandallo on a Tuesday through Friday night from 11 pm to 1 am, and drink your 4 beers at 40 reals each to use your consumable, and talk to a bunch of beautiful girls, perhaps land a perfect 10 girl for 600 reals (which I could not find). Then when you have a nice buzz, go to Casarao at 130 am and find a "8" or a "9" gorgeous girl for 250 reals. For some reason I liked Casarao environment the best, with all things considered, (and when you factor in, you can find a hottie for 250 Real /$65 US.) (I also sensed a youthful freelancer vibe at Casarao too). My ISG buddy wasn't a huge fan of Casarao I don't think. But I was a huge fan after all my visits. Then. The next day, get your at 1 pm pretty hot girl at Tangara for 100 real. (that's right fuck a hot girl for $26 US.) And then. Schedule an independent girl at 7 pm after you take your 3 pm nap. And then. Do this all over again at Scandallo at 11 pm. You should try it out.

Because in the end, I went to Casarao 3 times, Scandallo 2 times. Even though I never sessioned with a Scandallo girl, I enjoyed the beautiful scenery of seeing all the girls, and enjoyed the 15 girls that came to me, brushed their hands or body part on me, or talked to me for 5 minutes. Like I really enjoyed my beverage beer and eye candy time at Scandallo. (I just couldn't bear the total charge of 800 real to 1000 real knowing I just banged a girl the prior night who is 90% as hot for 250 real) (600 for girl+200 room or 800 for girl+200 room) total charge. (Again that's $211 US to $263 US.) I don't think I've ever paid this much. Perhaps I did, at FKK Globe in Zurich, I can't remember. But FKK Globe girls are pretty damn hot! Nevertheless, I never found that perfect 10 at Scandallo to blow my $211 US load on. Maybe next time I'm in SP!

I'm looking at my photos of the Casarao girls I got, and they were hot! I ended up with 3 Casarao girls for the week. With my favorite being a pretty 20 year old twice (think of pornstar Yurizan Beltran but "prettier" This 20 year old girl named Bruna with huge natural tits, thin waist, and pear shaped ass, and she was the biggest screamer / moaner of the 6 girls I sessioned with. And she would turn her face at me, while I was doing her doggy style, just staring with that "give it to me" pain look and "moaning". And I just loved it.

So that's my advice to that certain segment of guys out there in ISG land. Just do everything in 24 hours, and you'll know if you are a Clinica guy, a Scandallo guy, or a combination guy.

Here are my session scores for the great Sao Paulo week I had.

First 24 hours:

91/100 - Julia. Casarao - a 20 year old. She was of Lebanese descent, with great naturals, pretty face, and she was so GFE nice.

82/100 - Juju Tangara (she actually had a 70 score but 12 extra points because I fucked "a very pretty girl for $26 US" (This might be the best deal in the world!

95/100 - Rangel Carlos. Her place in Bela Vista - 1 hour of passionate, passionate, passionate sex. She likes sex. 500 real. It was nonstop PASSION, every minute, all 60 minutes!

Tuesday night -96/100 - Bruna. Casarao - my favorite session of the week at Room 23 in Casarao.

Sat night in Feb - 85/100 - Bruna for 2nd time at my place (why is it a majority of the time, like 80% of the time, the sex is not as phenomenal the 2nd time around). She's still frickin beautiful.

Sun night in Feb 0 86/100 - Irma. Casarao - this girl looked like pornstar Priya Rai. I enjoy looking at my photos of her. And she was good energy.

But for sure, ADD SAO PAULO to your MONGERING BUCKET LIST. Worth every penny. Odds of having a great session extremely high! Brazilians are super like that. ANd memories to LAST A LIFETIME, or at least a year, until my next destination! ISG forum reports, posts, tips, and advice, thank you, for exisiting in life.

[Member #4732]

This trip report is from a perspective, of a once a year monger dude, visiting Sao Paolo for first time. I essentially stayed 4 nights. (with a visit to Iguazu Falls for 3 nights in the middle.). .That is a report of distinction and answers most of the questions a 2019 visitor should have. I personally will not reply to any newbie questions in 2019 unless the user indicates that they have read Thunder5's report and their question goes beyond what he has already covered.

Thunder5 has provided a good roadmap for the short term visitor. The only thing I would add is that once you have sampled the big 3 - TG, Casarao and Scandalo, if you have time permitting you can also sample Bomboa (same cost as Scandalo but a different vibe, more Brazilian), and some other clinicas (for a broader selection of ladies). That's pretty much it.

[AltoBomGosto]

Yesterday I went to the new mme. Vaní venture.

I was very well received by her and Catarina, ex Tangara girl now managing the place.

Localized on A. The Aclimação 395, house has a bar with a large stock of beverages at a reasonable price. Open from 11 AM till 03 AM.

12 bedrooms all with Bathrooms and AC.

Prices 170 reais 1 hour and 120 reais 1/2 h. Yesterday they were 06 girls available. House is an oriental style building with private saloons for executive meetings or private parties.

ABG.

[Steve 9696]

Outstanding report Thunder5. It is the perfect plan. Kill it at all venues in the first 24 and then pick your poison. I am in your camp — Tangara was solid and cheap, but not my fave (and I prefer the night scene). Scandalo is expensive and worth it as a treat from time to time. Casarao to me is your best bet for affordable nightlife with hot ladies.

[WyattEarp]

Good work Thunder5. I think we lost agents Thunder1 through Thunder4 in action. Probably seduced by a local never to have been heard again by the agency. I'm glad you met Rangel Carlos.

Anyway, when I first started going to Brazil over 20 years ago, I would enjoy picking up Sexy magazine which offered nude centerfolds of girls with generous posteriors as compared to American men's magazines. Sexy would compete directly with Playboy Brasil which was very different from USA Playboy. So while the excitement of being able to fuck a Sexy centerfold model is not as intense as it was pre-internet porn, it's still pretty damn cool. Especially a centerfold model who delivers the heat. As ABG so thoughtfully pointed out, she is not based in SP, but she does visit quite often.

https://sexyclube.uol.com.br/rangel-carlos/

https://sexyclube.uol.com.br/rangel-carlos-2/

Moderator: I have absolutely no affiliation with said escort/model.

[Kcrl01]

This trip report is from a perspective, of a once a year monger dude, visiting Sao Paolo for first time. I essentially stayed 4 nights. (with a visit to Iguazu Falls for 3 nights in the middle.). Iguazu Falls, was fantastic! But, YES, Sao Paulo is indeed a "TOP MONGER DESTINATION" and should be on your PLACE TO VISIT LIST similar to RIO DE JANIERO, FKK GLOBE in Zurich, Medellin and Cartagena in Colombia, Costa Rica, and BARCELONA. (I've only listed places I've been so far. That I give A+ ratings to). (Frankfurt, Angkor what, Manila don't get A+ ratings, hence not on my A+ list). And I speak mucho poquito Spanish, and zero Portugese, So "YOU" . "CAN" . "DO" . "IT"..Thunder 5, you magnificent bastard. I used your method. Another fun night at The House!

[Thunder5]

Thunder 5, you magnificent bastard. I used your method. Another fun night at The House!LOL. Love the pics of the SKOL beer can. And the pics of the gal too.

[Muppets]

Muppets, congratulations on your objective post telling the names of the garotas you have banged.

One question: you went with Yasmin Mulatinha our Yasmin Loira?

I hope to see you again on your next trip.

ABG.No idea. She was the only Yasmin working. Petite, tiny waist, tattoo of a dragon on her flank / back. Quite dark skin tone.

Hooe that helps.

[Jib Reach]

No idea. She was the only Yasmin working. Petite, tiny waist, tattoo of a dragon on her flank / back. Quite dark skin tone.

Hooe that helps.That would be Mulatinha.

Hope you've recovered. Now you need a vacation!

[AltoBomGosto]

No idea. She was the only Yasmin working. Petite, tiny waist, tattoo of a dragon on her flank / back. Quite dark skin tone.

Hope that helps.Thanks, Muppet, that's the mulatinha!

ABG.

[Muppets]

Thanks guys, yeah I thought about it later and realised it would have been her!

[Member #4732]

I've had several PMs from visitors requesting tips on finding English speaking providers. Let me respond here.

First, there are no locations that have more English speaking ladies, unless you count Scandalo which has MORE ladies period. And naturally there are some there that will speak English but they are not walking around with signs. Though if you look like an obvious gringo they will probably seek you out.

There are freelancers that advertise on the sites I have mentioned that mention English or ingles spoken.

I personally know very few because actually I tend to avoid the ones who go out of their way to show off their English. Its a bit of a turn off for me because correctly or incorrectly I associate it with the pros that have been to Europe and returned more "pro" and a bit jaded. This is my own bias and it may be misguided but I prefer the locals that do not speak English, or the ones who do not make a big deal about their skill.

As for a visitor I would suggest the following. If you are only looking for the sexual encounter do not bother to look for an English speaker. Just rely on good old body language and google translate which can be fun on its own. The only reason to look for an English speaker IMO is if you want a companion that you will take to dinner or out for a few hours.

[SpikeBites1]

I've heard many stories of how awesome this place was and I just wanted to share my experience.

When I first arrived I was staying at a nice apartment / condo in Villa Olimpia. After the two hour uber ride from GRU to the apartment, I quickly went to a massage spa place next to my apartment. I can't remember the name, I think it's called the Palm? They have IPADs full of pictures of girls that you can select from and once you decide, you pay 300 R for the room and 270 R to the girl for an hour. This was considered a bit pricey, and for my first experience it wasn't really worth it. My friends have had better experience here than I did but overall the rooms were very clean, and very well done with nice beds and mirrors / showers. It actually looked like a Spa you would go to for regular massage services. I'm not going to write too much about this place because I didn't particularly like it. Oh, I will say one thing is that the girl gave me a CBJ which under my impression wasn't the norm in Brazil.

Later that evening after my friends got off work, which was around midnight, we went to Enjoy. My friends tell me they usually have 6-10 girls there at night but since they were only an hour from closing, they had only 4 girls. Luckily they had one girl which caught my eye. Went into the room, which had a nice mirror at the foot of the bed, took a quick shower and then off to the races. The girl I chose was very beautiful and only started working 2 weeks ago so she was a bit new to things. She also gave me a CBJ which again caught me off guard since I was told by my friends that BBBJ was the norm in Brazil. Other than the fact that she gave me a CBJ she was very GFE. Lots of DFK, fingering, anal play. We had a full hour but I popped after 20 minutes. Since my sex drive isn't that of a 20 year old, I knew it would be hard to go again but she did make an aggressive attempt to get me hard again but CBJ will never do the trick after the first pop. We spent the next 20 minutes or so just laying in bed while she practiced her English with me and I practiced my Portuguese. I would rate the experience 8/10 on looks of the girl, and 6/10 on service because of the CBJ. Oh, and the pricing was I believe 220 R for the hour.

Oh, so the following day I knew my friends had work so I arranged for the girl from Enjoy to come over to my apartment in the morning for a quick session. She ended up flaking on me which according to my friends is very common in BZ. I was a little disappointed and upset but oh well. I decided to head to the famous Tangara. And let me say, is WOW. This place is so damn cheap it's ridiculous. About 15 girls came out to greet me, and it was amazing. I quickly picked the most petite girl with nice natural breasts that were very big for her size. Her teeth was a little messed up but, I didn't mind. I loved her body. Took her to the room, which was grungy as fuck. The place is so ghetto, I was scared to walk around barefoot, even in the shower. But, oh well, the risks we take. I asked her via google translate what services she provides and she said no anal, but BBBJ and DFK. I said sounds good. This chick sucked my dick so hard and so good for a solid 10-15 minutes. I felt like she was trying so hard to make me pop quick so that we can go again! But, I told her to quickly ride me CG so that I can finally pop. I totally forgot to ask if I could CIM, which I wanted but then I ended up finishing in the condom to her surprise and she was like, Huh? Haha. I guess I didn't last very long. I took a shower afterwards and asked her if we have an hour or 30 minutes. She said if we left now it would only be 30 minutes. I was spent and tired so I just finished with 30 minutes and paid the 100 R (damn this is so cheap!) at the front desk. I met a nice fellow monger there who was waiting on a very popular girl named Emilie. He waited 4 guys to have a session with her before it was his turn. I became good friends with him and told him I would take him out to dinner after his session so I waited in the lobby for about 2 hours just watching the girls come and go every time a new guy came in. It was fun just being there, no complaints.

Later that evening my friends took me to a place called Kilt. It has a very similar setup to Hong Kong bar in Tijuana. Saw a cute BZ girl that looked American, and she spoke some English which was nice. I would love to have taken her upstairs for a quick session but earlier in the evening I ate at NZ Steak which was an all you can eat Tasting Menu BZ BBQ so I was so stuffed I was already half in a food coma. I got her number and told her I would love for her to come over in the morning for a quick session at my apartment. We exchanged info and agreed to meet in the morning at 1030-1100 am.

Next morning I text her if she was still coming and she said she wanted to meet at 1 pm. UGH wtf. Then she said she knew of a hotel nearby that she wanted to go. I was beyond annoyed. Two days in a row a chick flaked on me. Whatever, I ended up cancelling on her and just decided to rest and waited for my friends to get back from their dinner meeting. My friends took me to Brooklin. This place was pretty nice but when we went they only had about 6 girls working, again luckily only one of which caught my eye. Another blonde looking girl who wear a yellow dress, and was still brand new to the business. Her name was Mila. This place had much nicer rooms than TG. And from what I was told they raised the price a little bit. What was funny was the menu. CUATRO MANOS. I was like, fuck yeah. I will definitely have to try this before I leave BZ. Anyways, Mila looked good in her dress but once she took it off, her chest was flat and her ass was a lot bigger than I expected. I prefer petite girls with smaller asses. But she gave me a nice BBBJ and we fucked in a few positions. Oh prior to all of this, I google translated if I could finish in her mouth, she said No. LOL. I told her I wanted her to give me a BJ to finish me off and I promised to her that I wouldn't CIM. Ahah, although I was hoping a little pre-cum would come out just so she can taste it. Haha. Anyways, after she HJ finished me, we still had 20 minutes so again I laid in bed and just talked to her and practiced some Portuguese and English with her. Looks I'd give her a 6/10, service 7/10.

After Brooklin we went to eat a Pizza place which was very good, I forgot the name. My new friend I met at TG the other day came along with us, and I told him to arrange a session with a his ATF girl named Evelyn. So he arranged it on my whatsapp for her to come over at 10 am to my apartment the next day. So I thought maybe things would be different this time. My friends joked that I have never had to do the walk of shame. Walking an escort up to the apartment past the doorman. So I was excited to finally experience this. The girl agreed to 450 are for 2 hrs, anal included and CIM.

Next morning, I message her at 1030 and she was nowhere to be found. Her whatsapp messages weren't being received and so I was like, fucking *****. Flaked on 3 days in a damn row! My friends said this was to be expected. Either a girl is late or she will flake. At 11 am she messages me saying are we still on? I was already going to give up on her but since she messaged me, I asked her if she can make it here in 30 minutes. She said Yes of course. So my dumbass decided to wait. An hour goes past, then 2 hours. And STILL nothing. So she fucking flaked on me. Whatever, I wasn't going to let this faze me. So I decided to do some "sight-seeing" at that Park with the horses monument which was very close to TG. They were having a Carnavale party there so it was fun to see all the eye-candy. My friend and I walked through the park from one end to the other, then hopped in an Uber to go to TG. I was leaving the next day so I had to try CUATRO MANOS! When I finally got to TG I asked the guy which of these girls will do 3 some, and luckily the girl I liked was one of the ones that would do it with her friend. Her name is Tagatha. She has the most perfect perky big natural tits I've seen in a long while. She's only 19 and was amazing.

So at the beginning of the session, I asked if either of the girls would do anal, and one agreed for 50 R. I said, hell yes. Now this was my first ever 3 some and let me just say, it was an incredible experience. These girls were fingering each other making out kissing, it was amazing. One girl would be sucking my dick while the other played with my balls or would be making out with me. I basically lied flat on my back and just watched the show while they went to town on each other. One after another the girls would take turns sucking my dick, and then one girl got on top and rode me CG for a bit, then after she got off, she switched condoms so that the other girl could start riding me. I then told her I wanted to do anal, and after some extra lube preparation, she slid my dick into her petite tiny ass. Fuck yeah. The girl getting fucked in the ass told the girl to make out with me while her ass was getting stretched wide. After a few minutes of that, the girls told me to hop in the shower to wash off and so we did. After we got back into the room, more making out and I told the girl I wanted to CIM. One girl wouldn't' allow it but the other did, WIN! So she started to suck my dick while the other girl let me finger her ass while she made out with me. After a few minutes of that I finally popped in her mouth. I told the girls what a great time I had and I wanted a souvenir of my first three some so they agreed to take a photo with me haha. All in all, I gave the girls 60 R each on top of the 200 R I paid to the house for 45 minutes of CUATRO MANOS. I still can't get over how cheap that is, $80 USD! One thing I didn't get them to do was to suck / lick my dick simultaneously, porno style but oh well still a great experience.

Now we wandered around the Park again to take in the Carnavale experience and afterwards my flight was leaving at 3 am, so I had to be back at my apartment by midnight to take an uber to the airport. We decided to try out Casarao and we got there around 10 pm when it first opened. It was pretty dead, probably because it was open and also because with Carnavale happening up and down the street I'm guessing a lot of people weren't interested in going to work. We spent about 30 minutes at Casarao and decided to try our luck at Kilt again. Met a cute girl named Nina there. It was her last day in SP and she was off to Rio the next morning. My friends convinced me to go for one last pop before I leave back to the US, so I agreed to take her upstairs, which was 200 R for 30 minutes /50 R for the house. Once we got to the room, this chick was crazy GFE. She started going to town on my dick trying her hardest to make me nut right away. It was crazy. I couldn't get it up though because I guess I was a little tired and stressed about having to make it to the airport in time. I told her that we don't have to fuck, but it would be nice to CIM. So I made her suck my dick for a good 20 minutes while I watched do all sorts of crazy things with her tongue and she deep throat me like a champ. But the best part is when I CIM. It was like porno style, She took it in her mouth, and let it dribble out of slowly landing all over my dick then she would use her tongue and again licked it up and kind of spread it all over my dick. It was straight Porno. This chick could only be described with one word. Safaro (I think that's the right word). She was so dirty and raunchy in such an awesome way. Haha.

I made it home in time to catch my flight.

Overall awesome experience. Girls were beautiful, most were GFE with a few exceptions. Only things I hated were the fact that all of these girls flaked on me but whatever and secondly all of the traffic. It literally takes 30 minutes to go about a mile. I am hoping to make another trip down there soon!

[Polyamorist]

I quickly went to a massage spa place next to my apartment. I can't remember the name, I think it's called the Palm? They have IPADs full of pictures of girls that you can select from and once you decide, you pay 300 R for the room and 270 R to the girl for an hour. This was considered a bit pricey, and for my first experience it wasn't really worth it. Salaam SpikeBites, great report. Sorry you didn't get on so well at Palms. I have had two good experiences there including BBBJ. Though I'm not sure I will return soon after hearing that they shorted you on service.

I have visited four high-end clinicas in Sao Paulo: Oro Spa, Palms, France-Bel, and Lotus Lounge. They charge 2-3 times as much as regular clinicas. Their prices have risen rapidly over the past three years, generally a bad sign.

The selling points of high-end clinicas -- the assumptions on which they base their survival -- is that they have lots of beauties who match their photos closely, and those beauties deliver flawless service. But are those assumptions truly correct? At France-Bel and Lotus Lounge I was surprised to be shorted on service in a similar way you experienced at Palms. For me Palms and Oro delivered good service. I especially give Oro credit for genuinely trying to make the model work. However, I noticed the girls at Oro are mostly 7's: for the one or two 8's you are competing with the locals who know more than you. I'm not sure it's really worth it when you might just as easily stumble across an 8 in a regular clinica for half the price. And if you have a lot of money to spend then the high-end boates are a better deal: there you can not only see but talk to the girl first. In summary, I think the high-end clinicas have grown too complacent and they need to be very careful and rigorous if they are to retain a foothold in the market.

As for your disappointment with CBJ, it is sadly true that a lot of the girls will attempt this if they see you are a foreigner. For me a CBJ is worse than useless so I will completely reject it and say I would rather go on to the fucking. At this stage most of the girls will realize I am not a rube and proceed with the same awesome BBBJ that they would give to the locals.

About the girls flaking or showing up 1-2 hours late: yes, this happens too. My advice is not to get too stressed out about but factor it into your plans in advance and decide if a particular girl is really worth that much to you. Certainly in general girls are not so great about managing themselves and this is why the independent escort scene faces such great challenges worldwide.

[Steve 9696]

I've heard many stories of how awesome this place was and I just wanted to share my experience.

When I first arrived I was staying at a nice apartment / condo in Villa Olimpia. After the two hour uber ride from GRU to the apartment, I quickly went to a massage spa place next to my apartment. I can't remember the name, I think it's called the Palm? They have IPADs full of pictures of girls that you can select from and once you decide, you pay 300 R for the room and 270 R to the girl for an hour. This was considered a bit pricey, and for my first experience it wasn't really worth it. My friends have had better experience here than I did but overall the rooms were very clean, and very well done with nice beds and mirrors / showers. It actually looked like a Spa you would go to for regular massage services. I'm not going to write too much about this place because I didn't particularly like it. Oh, I will say one thing is that the girl gave me a CBJ which under my impression wasn't the norm in Brazil.

Later that evening after my friends got off work, which was around midnight, we went to Enjoy. My friends tell me they usually have 6-10 girls there at night but since they were only an hour from closing, they had only 4 girls. Luckily they had one girl which caught my eye. Went into the room, which had a nice mirror at the foot of the bed, took a quick shower and then off to the races. The girl I chose was very beautiful and only started working 2 weeks ago so she was a bit new to things. She also gave me a CBJ which again caught me off guard since I was told by my friends that BBBJ was the norm in Brazil. Other than the fact that she gave me a CBJ she was very GFE. Lots of DFK, fingering, anal play. We had a full hour but I popped after 20 minutes. Since my sex drive isn't that of a 20 year old, I knew it would be hard to go again but she did make an aggressive attempt to get me hard again but CBJ will never do the trick after the first pop. We spent the next 20 minutes or so just laying in bed while she practiced her English with me and I practiced my Portuguese. I would rate the experience 8/10 on looks of the girl, and 6/10 on service because of the CBJ. Oh, and the pricing was I believe 220 R for the hour.

Oh, so the following day I knew my friends had work so I arranged for the girl from Enjoy to come over to my apartment in the morning for a quick session. She ended up flaking on me which according to my friends is very common in BZ. I was a little disappointed and upset but oh well. I decided to head to the famous Tangara. And let me say, is WOW. This place is so damn cheap it's ridiculous. About 15 girls came out to greet me, and it was amazing. I quickly picked the most petite girl with nice natural breasts that were very big for her size. Her teeth was a little messed up but, I didn't mind. I loved her body. Took her to the room, which was grungy as fuck. The place is so ghetto, I was scared to walk around barefoot, even in the shower. But, oh well, the risks we take. I asked her via google translate what services she provides and she said no anal, but BBBJ and DFK. I said sounds good. This chick sucked my dick so hard and so good for a solid 10-15 minutes. I felt like she was trying so hard to make me pop quick so that we can go again! But, I told her to quickly ride me CG so that I can finally pop. I totally forgot to ask if I could CIM, which I wanted but then I ended up finishing in the condom to her surprise and she was like, Huh? Haha. I guess I didn't last very long. I took a shower afterwards and asked her if we have an hour or 30 minutes. She said if we left now it would only be 30 minutes. I was spent and tired so I just finished with 30 minutes and paid the 100 R (damn this is so cheap!) at the front desk. I met a nice fellow monger there who was waiting on a very popular girl named Emilie. He waited 4 guys to have a session with her before it was his turn. I became good friends with him and told him I would take him out to dinner after his session so I waited in the lobby for about 2 hours just watching the girls come and go every time a new guy came in. It was fun just being there, no complaints.

Later that evening my friends took me to a place called Kilt. It has a very similar setup to Hong Kong bar in Tijuana. Saw a cute BZ girl that looked American, and she spoke some English which was nice. I would love to have taken her upstairs for a quick session but earlier in the evening I ate at NZ Steak which was an all you can eat Tasting Menu BZ BBQ so I was so stuffed I was already half in a food coma. I got her number and told her I would love for her to come over in the morning for a quick session at my apartment. We exchanged info and agreed to meet in the morning at 1030-1100 am.

Next morning I text her if she was still coming and she said she wanted to meet at 1 pm. UGH wtf. Then she said she knew of a hotel nearby that she wanted to go. I was beyond annoyed. Two days in a row a chick flaked on me. Whatever, I ended up cancelling on her and just decided to rest and waited for my friends to get back from their dinner meeting. My friends took me to Brooklin. This place was pretty nice but when we went they only had about 6 girls working, again luckily only one of which caught my eye. Another blonde looking girl who wear a yellow dress, and was still brand new to the business. Her name was Mila. This place had much nicer rooms than TG. And from what I was told they raised the price a little bit. What was funny was the menu. CUATRO MANOS. I was like, fuck yeah. I will definitely have to try this before I leave BZ. Anyways, Mila looked good in her dress but once she took it off, her chest was flat and her ass was a lot bigger than I expected. I prefer petite girls with smaller asses. But she gave me a nice BBBJ and we fucked in a few positions. Oh prior to all of this, I google translated if I could finish in her mouth, she said No. LOL. I told her I wanted her to give me a BJ to finish me off and I promised to her that I wouldn't CIM. Ahah, although I was hoping a little pre-cum would come out just so she can taste it. Haha. Anyways, after she HJ finished me, we still had 20 minutes so again I laid in bed and just talked to her and practiced some Portuguese and English with her. Looks I'd give her a 6/10, service 7/10.

After Brooklin we went to eat a Pizza place which was very good, I forgot the name. My new friend I met at TG the other day came along with us, and I told him to arrange a session with a his ATF girl named Evelyn. So he arranged it on my whatsapp for her to come over at 10 am to my apartment the next day. So I thought maybe things would be different this time. My friends joked that I have never had to do the walk of shame. Walking an escort up to the apartment past the doorman. So I was excited to finally experience this. The girl agreed to 450 are for 2 hrs, anal included and CIM.

Next morning, I message her at 1030 and she was nowhere to be found. Her whatsapp messages weren't being received and so I was like, fucking *****. Flaked on 3 days in a damn row! My friends said this was to be expected. Either a girl is late or she will flake. At 11 am she messages me saying are we still on? I was already going to give up on her but since she messaged me, I asked her if she can make it here in 30 minutes. She said Yes of course. So my dumbass decided to wait. An hour goes past, then 2 hours. And STILL nothing. So she fucking flaked on me. Whatever, I wasn't going to let this faze me. So I decided to do some "sight-seeing" at that Park with the horses monument which was very close to TG. They were having a Carnavale party there so it was fun to see all the eye-candy. My friend and I walked through the park from one end to the other, then hopped in an Uber to go to TG. I was leaving the next day so I had to try CUATRO MANOS! When I finally got to TG I asked the guy which of these girls will do 3 some, and luckily the girl I liked was one of the ones that would do it with her friend. Her name is Tagatha. She has the most perfect perky big natural tits I've seen in a long while. She's only 19 and was amazing.

So at the beginning of the session, I asked if either of the girls would do anal, and one agreed for 50 R. I said, hell yes. Now this was my first ever 3 some and let me just say, it was an incredible experience. These girls were fingering each other making out kissing, it was amazing. One girl would be sucking my dick while the other played with my balls or would be making out with me. I basically lied flat on my back and just watched the show while they went to town on each other. One after another the girls would take turns sucking my dick, and then one girl got on top and rode me CG for a bit, then after she got off, she switched condoms so that the other girl could start riding me. I then told her I wanted to do anal, and after some extra lube preparation, she slid my dick into her petite tiny ass. Fuck yeah. The girl getting fucked in the ass told the girl to make out with me while her ass was getting stretched wide. After a few minutes of that, the girls told me to hop in the shower to wash off and so we did. After we got back into the room, more making out and I told the girl I wanted to CIM. One girl wouldn't' allow it but the other did, WIN! So she started to suck my dick while the other girl let me finger her ass while she made out with me. After a few minutes of that I finally popped in her mouth. I told the girls what a great time I had and I wanted a souvenir of my first three some so they agreed to take a photo with me haha. All in all, I gave the girls 60 R each on top of the 200 R I paid to the house for 45 minutes of CUATRO MANOS. I still can't get over how cheap that is, $80 USD! One thing I didn't get them to do was to suck / lick my dick simultaneously, porno style but oh well still a great experience.

Now we wandered around the Park again to take in the Carnavale experience and afterwards my flight was leaving at 3 am, so I had to be back at my apartment by midnight to take an uber to the airport. We decided to try out Casarao and we got there around 10 pm when it first opened. It was pretty dead, probably because it was open and also because with Carnavale happening up and down the street I'm guessing a lot of people weren't interested in going to work. We spent about 30 minutes at Casarao and decided to try our luck at Kilt again. Met a cute girl named Nina there. It was her last day in SP and she was off to Rio the next morning. My friends convinced me to go for one last pop before I leave back to the US, so I agreed to take her upstairs, which was 200 R for 30 minutes /50 R for the house. Once we got to the room, this chick was crazy GFE. She started going to town on my dick trying her hardest to make me nut right away. It was crazy. I couldn't get it up though because I guess I was a little tired and stressed about having to make it to the airport in time. I told her that we don't have to fuck, but it would be nice to CIM. So I made her suck my dick for a good 20 minutes while I watched do all sorts of crazy things with her tongue and she deep throat me like a champ. But the best part is when I CIM. It was like porno style, She took it in her mouth, and let it dribble out of slowly landing all over my dick then she would use her tongue and again licked it up and kind of spread it all over my dick. It was straight Porno. This chick could only be described with one word. Safaro (I think that's the right word). She was so dirty and raunchy in such an awesome way. Haha.

I made it home in time to catch my flight.

Overall awesome experience. Girls were beautiful, most were GFE with a few exceptions. Only things I hated were the fact that all of these girls flaked on me but whatever and secondly all of the traffic. It literally takes 30 minutes to go about a mile. I am hoping to make another trip down there soon!Great reports! I really give props to guys that bother to write it all down. Makes the forum sing. A few thoughts:

1 Don't settle for CBJ. It's happened to me a couple times over the years. But I know now, from reading the forum I should not have let it slide. So a few weeks ago in Austria the girl went for CBJ and I said no. And she said OK and went BBBJ no fuss. So just stop her and she will most likely go BBBJ. Sometimes not but worth trying.

2 I agree Tangara facilities are meh. But amazing bang for buck. I was planning 200 for an hour and we finished in 25 minutes. They said "oh only half hour"! And charged me 100 R -$25. Wow. Cheapest ever and hot girl.

3 You have discovered Brazileira time! I am two for two with girls being an hour late and thinking nothing of it. To them that is on time. Welcome to The wonderful world of Brasileiras! Totally worth it!

[SpikeBites1]

Salaam SpikeBites, great report. Sorry you didn't get on so well at Palms. I have had two good experiences there including BBBJ. Though I'm not sure I will return soon after hearing that they shorted you on service.

I have visited four high-end clinicas in Sao Paulo: Oro Spa, Palms, France-Bel, and Lotus Lounge. They charge 2-3 times as much as regular clinicas. Their prices have risen rapidly over the past three years, generally a bad sign.

The selling points of high-end clinicas -- the assumptions on which they base their survival -- is that they have lots of beauties who match their photos closely, and those beauties deliver flawless service. But are those assumptions truly correct? At France-Bel and Lotus Lounge I was surprised to be shorted on service in a similar way you experienced at Palms. For me Palms and Oro delivered good service. I especially give Oro credit for genuinely trying to make the model work. Since you brought up the Palms, I need to continue my story about what happened that time. I avoided including details on my initial report because I am sure my experience might have been a fluke and I didn't want to bad name the place.

But at Palms, the girl gave me a 15 minute massage which followed with the CBJ. After the CBJ, she rode me CG for a few minutes, then made me switch to missionary, then doggy. So after about a total of 5-7 minutes of actual fucking, she pulled out while in doggy, ripped off the condom and started stroking my dick vigorously while I was still in the doggy position. At first I thought wow this was pretty hot. My initial reaction was, this is crazy maybe she's stroking me off quick so that I can go for another pop since we were only about 25-30 minutes into an hour session (reason I thought this was because my friends have told me amazing GFE stories, and it just seemed like the GFE thing to do that only Brazil is capable of haha). Once she figured out I wasn't able to nut in that position, she made me lie down and continued stroking me, even putting her mouth close enough making me think she was going to allow me to CIM but considering she wouldn't BBBJ me, I knew that would be a long shot. I was able to cum at the 35 minute mark. After I finished, she rushed me into the shower which I thought okay. After the shower, she got dressed and walked me out. So a total of 40 minutes!

I told my friends and they were shocked and surprised. Something like this has never happened to them. They said it was not normal for a girl to force a guy to cum that quick. So I left a little disappointed especially with the high cost of the service.

But I still think the establishment is great, the rooms are beautiful and the manager who spoke English to me and walked me through the process was awesome. My friends told me that I should've gone back the next day and spoke with the manager but I didn't want to bad mouth the service or anything.

[WyattEarp]

Great reports! I really give props to guys that bother to write it all down. Makes the forum sing. A few thoughts:

1 Don't settle for CBJ. It's happened to me a couple times over the years. But I know now, from reading the forum I should not have let it slide. So a few weeks ago in Austria the girl went for CBJ and I said no. And she said OK and went BBBJ no fuss. So just stop her and she will most likely go BBBJ. Sometimes not but worth trying.

2 I agree Tangara facilities are meh. But amazing bang for buck. I was planning 200 for an hour and we finished in 25 minutes. They said "oh only half hour"! And charged me 100 R -$25. Wow. Cheapest ever and hot girl.

3 You have discovered Brazileira time! I am two for two with girls being an hour late and thinking nothing of it. To them that is on time. Welcome to The wonderful world of Brasileiras! Totally worth it!More of the Tao of Steve. Hey, those Brasileiras said they would be there and they were there. What's the fuckin' problem! LOL.

[SpikeBites1]

Great reports! I really give props to guys that bother to write it all down. Makes the forum sing. A few thoughts:

1 Don't settle for CBJ. It's happened to me a couple times over the years. But I know now, from reading the forum I should not have let it slide. So a few weeks ago in Austria the girl went for CBJ and I said no. And she said OK and went BBBJ no fuss. So just stop her and she will most likely go BBBJ. Sometimes not but worth trying.

2 I agree Tangara facilities are meh. But amazing bang for buck. I was planning 200 for an hour and we finished in 25 minutes. They said "oh only half hour"! And charged me 100 R -$25. Wow. Cheapest ever and hot girl.

3 You have discovered Brazileira time! I am two for two with girls being an hour late and thinking nothing of it. To them that is on time. Welcome to The wonderful world of Brasileiras! Totally worth it!1. Yeah, I really dislike CBJ. CBJ is the norm here in Tijuana where I do most of my mongering so I wanted something different. Next time I go to Brazil I will know better and try to get BBBJ for all my endeavors.

2. I love Tangara! They have so many girls, and 100/30, 150/ HR, 200/ cuatros manos for 45 can NOT be beat. I asked the girls how much they take home from their hour appts, and they get 100 out of the 150. I asked the girls at Brooklin how much they take home from an hour and they get 120, while the house takes 100.

3. And yes, Brazil time is definitely a thing. Both my friends who travel to BZ for work have waited on girls for hours and hours. It's ridiculous but they just say that's how "LATAM works". Once my friend waited 6 hours for a girl. I don't think I would ever wait that long. The funny thing is, what ends up happening is, first girl flakes on you or is taking too long so you decide to call and ask your backup to show up. Then the first girl responds and says she'll be there in 30 minutes. So you have to back out on your backup girl. Then the first girl ends up flaking on you, and now you've burnt the bridge with the backup you are stuck with nothing at the end of the day. Luckily there's always places like TG and Enjoy to go to as a backup in the end.

Love Brazil.

[AltoBomGosto]

Great reports! I really give props to guys that bother to write it all down. Makes the forum sing. A few thoughts:

1 Don't settle for CBJ. It's happened to me a couple times over the years. But I know now, from reading the forum I should not have let it slide. So a few weeks ago in Austria the girl went for CBJ and I said no. And she said OK and went BBBJ no fuss. So just stop her and she will most likely go BBBJ. Sometimes not but worth trying.

2 I agree Tangara facilities are meh. But amazing bang for buck. I was planning 200 for an hour and we finished in 25 minutes. They said "oh only half hour"! And charged me 100 R -$25. Wow. Cheapest ever and hot girl.

3 You have discovered Brazileira time! I am two for two with girls being an hour late and thinking nothing of it. To them that is on time. Welcome to The wonderful world of Brasileiras! Totally worth it!I always repeat over and over again, be sure to negotiate with the girl that you want BBBJ, CIM, anal, etc. Be sure it's all understood. BBBJ is normally free, CIM I give the girl a tio of 20 reais, anal is 50 to 100 reais extra. Tell her she will be tipped only AFTER she performed her work satisfactorily.

I never go with a girl outcall unless you take her right away. As with the web sites adds, the risk you will be flanked is enormous! And don't go to any love hotel recommended by the girl, normally they get a commission of those hotels and you pay for it.

I recommend going to a clinica, choose your favorite, do a 1/2 hour test drive and then take her out. Boites and Clinicas have different policies, but generally, 600 reais would be a fair rate for an outcall at a medium priced clinica.

ABG.

[Kcrl01]

This is Suelli aka Pamela.

She works mainly at Casarao. My wingman had a session with her at Casarao, they later agreed to go to a love motel after closing. The agreed upon rate was are $500 for three hours. They got to the motel, everything was OK until they were checking out. At checkout she demanded are $2,500 or she threatened to call the police. My wingman speaks perfect Portuguese so there was nothing lost in translation. To make a long story short my wingman paid her to avoid any further drama. He works for Fortune 500 financial services firm as their South America projects manager and didn't want to take any chances with his employer finding out.

I asked some of the other girls about her and she's a well known scammer who preys on well-to-do looking gringos.

Avoid her at all costs!

[Questner]

He should have arranged the hotel and payment through a third party, this is how things are done.

[Voyajer1]

They don't need to know that you are loaded. I tell them that I'm a garbage man, a waiter, never tell them your real name, what you do or flaunt wealth! Things change when they know you can afford a scam.


He should have arranged the hotel and payment through a third party, this is how things are done.

[AltoBomGosto]

This is Suelli aka Pamela.

She works mainly at Casarao. My wingman had a session with her at Casarao, they later agreed to go to a love motel after closing. The agreed upon rate was are $500 for three hours. They got to the motel, everything was OK until they were checking out. At checkout she demanded are $2,500 or she threatened to call the police. My wingman speaks perfect Portuguese so there was nothing lost in translation. To make a long story short my wingman paid her to avoid any further drama. He works for Fortune 500 financial services firm as their South America projects manager and didn't want to take any chances with his employer finding out.

I asked some of the other girls about her and she's a well known scammer who preys on well-to-do looking gringos.

Avoid her at all costs!Thanks for your warning, that's why I prefer the clinicas, girls are much more trustful.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

PLEASE CHECK if yoiu place is open, most clinicas in Sao Paulo will close.

Tangara, Yankin Vani's Way and Espaço Vergueiro will be open.

ABG.

[ManchesterCat]

Sao Paulo – What a place. I've traveled a little bit around the world now and must sat that Sao Paulo is probably the place I've enjoyed most. Reading some of the earlier reports I must say that I was a little bit skeptical on exactly what to expect, but Sampa did not disappoint.

Accommodation. I stayed in Moema, (in the south, near the boarder of Moema and Brooklin). This turned out to be great because I was a short walk from the shopping center and the clubs area.

Currency – I personally found Bradesco to be the best – you have options to select the breakup of notes and as far as I could tell, there weren't any ATM fees, at least not for my bank. You could only take out $1250, but it didn't matter because of the lack of fees for me. Santander was also okay, but a fair few banks don't accept general Mastercard / Visa so if you have a global card you may struggle (which I've never experience before – some banks like Itau, which is huge, really surprised me on this one).

I think reports are for the benefit of new visitors, so here's my 2 p. Let's start at the beginning, as far as I could find, there are a few types of establishments available in Sampa, being Clinicas, Bars / clubs, swing clubs and prives.

A few things for context:

1. My personal preference is a more European / Slavic look (fairer skin), petite / skinnier figure and age wise not older than around 25. I know therefore I'm barking up the wrong tree a little with Brazil, but I'm also still flexible so everywhere I've traveled I've still been able to find someone I like. Another interesting thing to note here is that I know my tastes are still pretty normal in Brazil. I know a lot of guys like the 'big everything' type of girl. But, at the clubs and clinicas I went to, the girls that I liked were often the busier ones (whether leading guys off to rooms or being picked by other guys that was in the reception area with me etc.). I'm not too sure.

I would want my former self to know that the general story is that the further south you go, the whiter everyone gets. A lot of people told me 'If you like blondes, go to the south'. Got it, will do that next time. I know someone else posted in a report here (a former report of distinction) that Argentina is a whiter country. I remember looking on some local boards and not exactly seeing what I was after – but everyone in Brazil seems to keep telling me the same story. Will have to investigate at a later date. Still, Sampa definitely had enough variety.

2. I tried not being a tightass but still don't like spending more money than I really should – especially if the prices start becoming comparable to Western Standards. Factors into my decisions at Scandellos.

3. I'm not really after anything crazy – which I know some people go especially to Rio searching for. But also, the types of girls I usually go for, tend to be more likely to be shy / vanilla than the more experienced workers.

4. This is a big one – On the first night, I visited Augusta, and went to Casarao. It was actually quite empty for Casarao's standards. I found a girl I liked but didn't have enough cash so left to find an ATM. On the way I walked past another club with an absolute stunner, exactly my type (blonde highlights, cute face, sun-kissed but fair skin, beautifully thin and petite figure) and spoke some English. This was the girl I'the been looking for this whole trip! I never made it back to Casarao that night and got this girls number and saw her for the next few nights and went out for dinners and to clubs together till very late, for 1000 a night (she often stayed past noon the next day). This distorted my perception of value for everyone else. If I could have a 9. 5 (for my tastes) for a whole night for 1000, everyone else that was around a 7-8 just didn't have as much of the same appeal anymore.

*Clinicas (or massgem)* – Some are set up as a massage parlor and some closer to a normal 'brother' set up. Run out of larger house / building in a normal neighborhood area. There are a lot all over the city, with a few notable ones in Indianpolis, which is closer for me anyway. Number of girls can vary but I've seen upwards of 20 girls. A varied group (which is good), some can be average, but there are some gems to be found. Notable places:

- Tangara – $150 per hour / session (200 duos for 45 minutes! This place is the cheapest out of the places I visited in Sampa. First time, I visited Tangara a bit later on during the day, so may not have seen the full line up. There were up to 20 girls there I think. There were a few that got my attention, but no one I really jumped at either, so sadly didn't pull the trigger and never checked prices either.

Second time, I visited just before leaving, I had some cash and to be honest Tangara seemed to be the only place open between 7 when most massagems close and the clubs all open at 10. The line up was about the same as the first time but I definitely wanted to do something. Another random note, may be because I went at a similar time, but so many people from my first visit were there again the second time too. Almost couldn't believe it when they told me the prices. The girls I met were quite fun and bubbly, so definitely plus there.

- Red Massagem – 200 per hour / session (about an hour), I was there early but the one girl they had was stunning and one of the best I saw in any clinica, so lucky me. They said they would have 23 girls that day. The receptionist didn't speak very good English but was super friendly.

- Miruna – I really wanted to like this place and went there a few times. But they always had a very small line-up. Up to 5 girls when I was there, no one there impressed me enough either. Didn't check prices.

- Abbobora – 260 per hour / session, this was my favorite clinica, which I found referred to in another blog / site. This place had a large line up of up to 20 girls and a mixed bag so you could find someone you like per your tastes. There were a fair few I was interested in. The rooms are nice too (they trade as a hotel too, apparently). As stated in the other blog, the clinica trains the girls well to try and get as many clients to return as possible.

- Clinica Brooklin – 250 per hour / session (if I recall correctly), this clinica was fine, but nothing that particularly wowed me either. The line up was decent with 15 or so girls when I visited, who were all attractive, but no one that really blew me away either. Rooms were nice enough too.

* Bars / Clubs (many types)*– This includes something as basic as the empty less known bars in Rua Augusta (like the ones next door to Casarao) all the way up to Scandellos. I honestly think quality has a lot of luck involved, I found an absolute gem in a trashy bar and didn't find anyone as good in Scandellos. All depends on the night and your taste I guess. The difference is the number of girls, Scandellos has 200+ where a shitty bar might have 5. But a girl from a tashy club would charge $300 an hour all up (or 1000+ a night) and a scandellos girls would cost 1000 an hour, and I didn't even bother asking for a night.

- Scandellos – Entry was 150 (I believe) which can be used for consumption, which you will use up quite quickly (it basically covers just over 2 drinks). I had dinner here, a few drinks for myself and 2 drinks for girls and ran up 600 (wow). I must say I was amazed by this place, it has a modern 5-star hotel feel, and the check-in area has a (Western) Country Club vibe. The place is properly huge (4 x 4 in Rio doesn't even come close). I kept finding new area throughout the night. There were more women than you could imagine, really, all types and sizes. I don't think the quality is higher than other places, but nicer and more expensive outfits, and this would be the only places some of the classier girls would go. However, despite the numbers there were not too many exactly my type. I found one girl I really like, but after talking to her for a bit, turns out she asks for 800 an hour plus the room fee, so 1000. While the girl who was exactly my type from the night before quoted me 1000 a night. I know these can be negotiable, but she didn't sound very amendable to it, so I just tipped her and went our separate ways.

The thing that confuses me about this place though – at those prices, sure you'll get some coming in and waving cash and spending without a care in the world. But the client to girl ratio is crazy, so my guess is that most girls won't get a client for the night. Another girl even told me that a lot of guys just come to look around. In my mind, this should mean that the girls are better off going to other clubs with more guys (I. E. Casarao) or lower their prices so more guys will actually pay rather than just looking around. Am I missing something here? I mean 500 – 800 an hour (one girl went as low as 500, but that was after I kept saying no – which I meant). You can see some amazing girls in first world countries for those prices (I. E. 600+) and can see other girls for a fraction of the price at other bars – so the girl really needs to be 9. 5-10. Surely other guys feel the same way. Even for a stunner at 500, add on the hotel fee and it's a real killer.

- Casarao – Went here twice, and the girls are quite varied – the cover is only $20 or $40 with consumption so definitely worth checking out. It was quieter on the Monday and Packed on Tuesday. Lots of girls, lots of guys. I went here 3 times, two times alone and once with my gem. Didn't do anything when I went alone (including the time detailed above). But when I went back with her, we picked out another girl who we took with us.

Now, here's some intel some might find useful – the first girl I saw quoted me something around $300 for the hour I believe (which I believe includes $50 for the room). She tried selling some extras as well. However, something to consider is that for the number of people usually at the club, there aren't many rooms, so you may have to wait a fair bit in line to get a room. For exit, the fee is $100, and the girl we picked out charged 600 for the night, although she left pretty early in the mornings at 6.

- KILT – sadly never made it here.

- Love Story. I suggested to my gem that we should go and have a look. She said that it opened up later, was a bit further from where we were and that it was a bit hit and miss. So I took her advice and never made it here either.

*Swing Clubs* – There's a few across the city, with a few major ones located in Indianopolis.

- Asha – Went there on a Thursday (probably not a good day). It was fairly quiet with only a few couples (some I thought weren't bad looking). The club is much smaller and I don't think as interesting as Inner – which has lots of different areas etc. Asha had lots of private rooms, and upstairs area (where there was no one) and one darker communal room and that was all that we found.

- Inner – Quite a nice club, with a large 'normal bar / dancefloor' area. Then there's a cinema, an area with a bus, lots and lots of areas with glory holes etc, a second 'First Class' bar area (which wasn't used during the week) and a maze area (with some semi-private areas) and a communal area for couples only. The first time, me and my gem just kept to ourselves mostly, walking around and exploring a little. Lots going on, and lots to explore and watch, which was fun. I didn't really feel the desire to participate for a few reasons:

1. It seemed to us a lot of what was going on was unprotected. Which neither of us really liked.

2. I felt my gem was by some margin the hottest girl in the club and potentially in Sao Paulo, so didn't really feel the desire to switch her for someone else.

Second time we went, we also took the girl we picked at Casarao, so I had an extra bargaining chip. The second time was on Friday, so the place was much, much busier. But, again, not too many stunners in the crowd. My gem made it clear that she would not swap unless the other person also paid her (which was oddly aggressive stance for her, I think she just got too much unwanted attention from single guys). The Casarao girl however, was all game. Issue was – looking around, there was no one who I really wanted. A few couples eyed us off, but were either older, or slightly more 'Brazillian' figure etc.

*Prives* – Basically very basic apartments brothels. I saw one nearby Brooklin to decided to have a look, and basically exactly what you expect. They are just a cheaper, run down clinica, with only a handful of less than average looking girls for very cheap. I know some search these out and try and find hidden gems. I didn't think it was safe / worth my time during a short trip. Clinicas didn't exactly break the bank and it was hard enough to find my type.

*Escorts* – This is a funny one. When I first landed I thought I'the try and find someone to come over. Found a site referenced by another website (something agency with university or something in the title). The line-up looked amazing, with decent prices. I pulled the trigger and eventually someone arrived. A complete bait and switch, she said it was photoshop, but technology has not yet been invented to pull off these changes. I paid her some money for her transport and sent her away. She wasn't happy. I know some people managed to pull off getting some great escorts, but in my mind, there are so many options out there, I just don't think the risk of the bait and switch makes it worth it. Unlike Canada, it isn't one of the primary markets here.

Happy to clarify any of the above. Answer specifics etc. Or if I ever am able to get messaging back, answer PMs.

Definitely coming back. And here I thought Russia was good as it got.

[HarvestBoi]

Can you elaborate a bit more about how this works?


He should have arranged the hotel and payment through a third party, this is how things are done.

[AltoBomGosto]

EV will be closed today.

[The Cane]

Nice report ManchesterCat, but I don't know why in the world you tipped that Scandallo tute! If you decided not to take her, then you should have just thanked her for her time and cordially bid her adieu! There was absolutely no reason to pay her anything. That was money spent for no good reason in my books. If you're not going to take a girl from one of the top-level boites, then just politely end the "negotiations" when they break down and walk away. Same for any locale really, although I see why guys give "bait and switch" tutes a little money. But even then, I feel like they actually deserve absolutely nothing for jerking the waiting customer around. We're not there to stick a dick inside of just anybody who shows up. We want who we asked for. This is why I don't mess with escorts man. But, to avoid a scene, I get it. Pay them something to leave! Also, you mentioned a "trashy" club really close to Casarao American Bar. I wonder if that was Balneario American Bar, which is right next door? I found a gem there myself who proved to be one damn good butt fuck and a sweet, nice girl to boot. Great job on the report!

[Azn Safado]

The thing that confuses me about this place though at those prices, sure you'll get some coming in and waving cash and spending without a care in the world. But the client to girl ratio is crazy, so my guess is that most girls won't get a client for the night. Another girl even told me that a lot of guys just come to look around. In my mind, this should mean that the girls are better off going to other clubs with more guys (I. E. Casarao) or lower their prices so more guys will actually pay rather than just looking around. Am I missing something here? I mean 500 800 an hour (one girl went as low as 500, but that was after I kept saying no which I meant). You can see some amazing girls in first world countries for those prices (I. E. 600+) and can see other girls for a fraction of the price at other bars so the girl really needs to be 9. 5-10. Surely other guys feel the same way. Even for a stunner at 500, add on the hotel fee and it's a real killer.Great report ManchesterCat. I really liked the review about swing clubs. It's kind of what I guessed it would be. A place with just normal looking people that us mongers would probably not want to touch. Ha.

Here's the thing about Scandallo. Welcome to Brazil, where everything defies logic! Every girl that works at Scandallo drinks the proverbial Kool-Aid. They get brainwashed into having a certain "valor" or price, if you will, and they will stick to their guns and would rather go home with no client than to waver on that valor. I've stuck around until 4 am or 5 am there before and even the left-overs wouldn't budge on price before closing time! Unless you meet some newbie there who hasn't had the chance to drink the Scandallo Kool-Aid yet, they're all pretty much going to be stubborn and irrational about their pricing. The overhead at Scandallo is just too high as you're already in for R$400 (R$200 entry (after 7 pm) + R$200 room) before even adding on the price of the girl if you decide to take her to the room. The take out fee is R$250 so it's not much of a better bargain except you get to enjoy her in the comfort of your own place.

[WyattEarp]

Here's the thing about Scandallo. Welcome to Brazil, where everything defies logic! Every girl that works at Scandallo drinks the proverbial Kool-Aid. They get brainwashed into having a certain "valor" or price, if you will, and they will stick to their guns and would rather go home with no client than to waver on that valor.You see cartel pricing like this in many small, hooker clubs around the globe, but how do they maintain such price discipline in such a large club. I presumed there was some peer pressure as young girls can easily be influenced by the herd. I'm guessing there are alpha girls who are 9's who enforce some subtle discipline within the ranks. If prices are too high, these 9's aren't going to be hurt.

Does Scandallo pay the girls any kind of fee for showing up beyond kickbacks on drinks? I thought I heard they get penalized for missing days. Is it possible Scandallo management prescribes a certain price level?

And kudos ManchesterCat on a informative report.

[Questner]

Can you elaborate a bit more about how this works?OK, here is an example of an individual that can be intimidated, scammed or asked to settle due to his position, work or other circumstances. Here how it works here, and I'm in one of the major financial centers in America. The third party, a trusted individual, will rent a hotel room with cash through a hotel clerk, will hire a pre-screened hooker, pay her in cash and sent her up to the room at a certain time. Her client will show up, do the deed and leave. All payments, arrangements and head ache is done by a third party and settled in cash. All 5 star properties are full with such arrangements during a lunch time.

[Azn Safado]

You see cartel pricing like this in many small, hooker clubs around the globe, but how do they maintain such price discipline in such a large club. I presumed there was some peer pressure as young girls can easily be influenced by the herd. I'm guessing there are alpha girls who are 9's who enforce some subtle discipline within the ranks. If prices are too high, these 9's aren't going to be hurt.

Does Scandallo pay the girls any kind of fee for showing up beyond kickbacks on drinks? I thought I heard they get penalized for missing days. Is it possible Scandallo management prescribes a certain price level?

And kudos ManchesterCat on a informative report.As far as I know, the girls pay R$150 each day to work there and they have to pay for their own food at the restaurant onsite. I think they get like a 15 percent discount for food there. If they stay until 5 am, they receive a "convite", which is a voucher to work there for free the next day so it's in their best interest not to leave early if they are regularly working there and not some short time, out-of-towner looking for a little cash. So maybe their mentality is "oh well, nobody took my offer today but I'll stay till 5 am and not have to pay a fee to work here tomorrow and maybe tomorrow, somebody will take my R$800 offer". I think Brazilians are eternal optimists! LOL. Also to note, a majority of the girls that work there also stay in the apartment building a few blocks from Scandallo and the rent is like R$250 a week. If only I could rent a room in that building! Ha!

[WyattEarp]

Also to note, a majority of the girls that work there also stay in the apartment building a few blocks from Scandallo and the rent is like R$250 a week. If only I could rent a room in that building! Ha!Very interesting on how the fees the girls pay to Scandallo work. You're right. Why not cut a deal with a guy and make a few hundred Reais above the R 150 fee they paid and start all over the next night.

I'm also curious about renting a room in this apartment building you mention. LOL. Many years ago Don in Rio put me up in this dump without A/C in a building across the way from Help Disco. It worked out because it was the "beehive" for all the working girls. You could walk around the halls and hit-up the girls for afternoon delights.

[Shamester]

Arrived today. For some reason my legal meds and pills were removed from my luggage. Shall put in carry-on in the future.

Today is a holiday. Ubered to Tangara. Met up with abg.

Located in a residential neighborhood. This is not a dump. Good rooms with AC.

Overabundance of men. Good young chicas. Small selection.

Chose a slim black hair chica named di. Nice ass and fake rack. Language was a problem.

Lied about English. No deep FK. Gives good BJ's. Not GFE. Tried to end session early by saying she had another client. Let her escape after third BJ cum.

Okay experience given the price and hotness. No repeat.

It's close to 300 pm. More chicas are arriving.

[Thayerst]

Hi,

I'm back in Sao Paulo in early April and can't wait. Last time I was there in November, a Sao Paulo local recommended a place called Casaroa Augusta to me, has anyone heard of this place of know anything about it? The guy seems to be in the know regarding Sao Paulo as he's involved in the vice trade himself (pushes substances, girls etc) so I thought his recommendation might be a good one but interested to hear the thoughts of others. I'm unfortunately going to be in Sao Paulo from Sunday. Wednesday evenings so looking for places early in the week to hang out and party. I'm also staying in Jardins at Hotel Unique which seems fine to me for bringing guests as long as they have their ID with them. Any help appreciated.

[Shamester]

Selected a spinner GFE talita. Cute and complete GFE. Flexible and bouncy. Repeat and highly recommended.

[Kcrl01]

Hi,

I'm back in Sao Paulo in early April and can't wait. Last time I was there in November, a Sao Paulo local recommended a place called Casaroa Augusta to me, has anyone heard of this place of know anything about it? The address: are. Augusta- Consolao, So Paulo. SP, 01305-100, hours are 22:00 h - 06:00 h. Entrada is BRL $ 20/ Consumption BRL $ 40. Decent facilities, mid-range prices, lots of variety among the ladies. Was there last night the crowd was a little small, Carnaval I guess. Imagine a scaled down version of Helpee. Enjoy!

[Balboa]

Hi,

I'm back in Sao Paulo in early April and can't wait. Last time I was there in November, a Sao Paulo local recommended a place called Casaroa Augusta to me, has anyone heard of this place of know anything about it? The guy seems to be in the know regarding Sao Paulo as he's involved in the vice trade himself (pushes substances, girls etc) so I thought his recommendation might be a good one but interested to hear the thoughts of others. I'm unfortunately going to be in Sao Paulo from Sunday. Wednesday evenings so looking for places early in the week to hang out and party. I'm also staying in Jardins at Hotel Unique which seems fine to me for bringing guests as long as they have their ID with them. Any help appreciated.Umm yeah, why not read a few pages of this forum, or do a search.

It's talked about frequently.

Geeeez.

[WyattEarp]

Hi,

I'm back in Sao Paulo in early April and can't wait. Last time I was there in November, a Sao Paulo local recommended a place called Casaroa Augusta to me, has anyone heard of this place of know anything about it?Wow, I don't know? (Scratch my head).

I don't think anyone has brought up Casarao in detail in over two days. It's only been mentioned probably a dozen times in the few weeks.

[AltoBomGosto]

Arrived today. For some reason my legal meds and pills were removed from my luggage. Shall put in carry-on in the future.

Today is a holiday. Ubered to Tangara. Met up with abg.

Located in a residential neighborhood. This is not a dump. Good rooms with AC.

Overabundance of men. Good young chicas. Small selection.

Chose a slim black hair chica named di. Nice ass and fake rack. Language was a problem.

Lied about English. No deep FK. Gives good BJ's. Not GFE. Tried to end session early by saying she had another client. Let her escape after third BJ cum.

Okay experience given the price and hotness. No repeat.

It's close to 300 pm. More chicas are arriving.Language is a problem when you don't speak Portuguese, best have a wingman with you.

Tangará would be the best cost / benefit where you can go on Sundays and Monday. SUN 12:00 AM till 8:00 PM and weekdays 10 AM till 10 PM.

Most of the time there will be over 30 girls in the house, many girls from MG, PR, SC, and RG. Most are in there 5 to 7 but some 9 10 also show up.

There is a girl named Porshe, she's a 9 / 10 and could rival the best girls from the hight end boites. She's from PR and will be in TG till the end of this week.

Price: 150 reais = one hour all standard included.

PM me for details.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

Selected a spinner GFE talita. Cute and complete GFE. Flexible and bouncy. Repeat and highly recommended.Thalita, one of the top girls at Tangara.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

Since you brought up the Palms, I need to continue my story about what happened that time. I avoided including details on my initial report because I am sure my experience might have been a fluke and I didn't want to bad name the place.

But at Palms, the girl gave me a 15 minute massage which followed with the CBJ. After the CBJ, she rode me CG for a few minutes, then made me switch to missionary, then doggy. So after about a total of 5-7 minutes of actual fucking, she pulled out while in doggy, ripped off the condom and started stroking my dick vigorously while I was still in the doggy position. At first I thought wow this was pretty hot. My initial reaction was, this is crazy maybe she's stroking me off quick so that I can go for another pop since we were only about 25-30 minutes into an hour session (reason I thought this was because my friends have told me amazing GFE stories, and it just seemed like the GFE thing to do that only Brazil is capable of haha). Once she figured out I wasn't able to nut in that position, she made me lie down and continued stroking me, even putting her mouth close enough making me think she was going to allow me to CIM but considering she wouldn't BBBJ me, I knew that would be a long shot. I was able to cum at the 35 minute mark. After I finished, she rushed me into the shower which I thought okay. After the shower, she got dressed and walked me out. So a total of 40 minutes!

I told my friends and they were shocked and surprised. Something like this has never happened to them. They said it was not normal for a girl to force a guy to cum that quick. So I left a little disappointed especially with the high cost of the service.

But I still think the establishment is great, the rooms are beautiful and the manager who spoke English to me and walked me through the process was awesome. My friends told me that I should've gone back the next day and spoke with the manager but I didn't want to bad mouth the service or anything.I never went to this clinica due to bad remarks at the local boards.

But your report was almost that the unbelievable happened!

If I were you I would go there, ask for my money back or get an hour with another girl for free!

That's why I always warn any newcomer:

BEFORE SETTLING THE DEAL MAKE SHURE YOU MADE HER KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS EXPECTED (BBBJ, CIM, ANAL, ETC.). If the girl refuses to perform as agreed, put your closes on and leave the room, tell the manager you want to have another girl.

A hand job you can have in the trash buildings for 20 reais!

If you have any questions please PM me!

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

Language is a problem when you don't speak Portuguese, best have a wingman with you.

Tangar would be the best cost / benefit where you can go on Sundays and Monday. SUN 12:00 AM till 8:00 PM and weekdays 10 AM till 10 PM.

Most of the time there will be over 30 girls in the house, many girls from MG, PR, SC, and RG. Most are in there 5 to 7 but some 9 10 also show up.

There is a girl named Porshe, she's a 9 / 10 and could rival the best girls from the hight end boites. She's from PR and will be in TG till the end of this week.

Price: 150 reais = one hour all standard included.

PM me for details.

ABG.She left back to PR but should be back next week.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

After doing some paperwork I and my customer decided to go to EV, we met there at 9:20 PM. Both of us went by metro.

After being introduced to the girls I choose NANDINHA and my client went with JENNIFER.

Nandinha is a petite girl, very slim, very nice and GFE.

DFK followed by an excellent BBBJ, after she turns it rock hard, she jumped over, she came almost instantaneously, she with the help of the dildo, and I came on a fantástic CIM! She really knows how to suck a cock.

I wonder why only one post was written about this place was written on the board. For a club 170 reais per hour is excellent and beverages are much cheaper than in Casarão. (and without the loud sound there).

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

i never went to this clinica due to bad remarks at the local boards.

But your report was almost that the unbelievable happened!

If i were you i would go there, ask for my money back or get an hour with another girl for free!

That's why i always warn any newcomer:

Before settling the deal make shure you made her know exactly what is expected (bbbj, cim, anal, etc.). If the girl refuses to perform as agreed, put your closes on and leave the room, tell the manager you want to have another girl.

A hand job you can have in the trash buildings for 20 reais!

If you have any questions please pm me!

Abg.let's boycott this clinica!

[Polyamorist]

BEFORE SETTLING THE DEAL MAKE SHURE YOU MADE HER KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS EXPECTED (BBBJ, CIM, ANAL, ETC.). If the girl refuses to perform as agreed, put your closes on and leave the room, tell the manager you want to have another girl.I agree with this. Brazilian girls, even the bad ones, tend to be honest about what they will do and not do. Unlike FKK Romanians for example, who will just lie.

The main problem is that in most clinicas you just get a lineup and a peck on the cheek from each girl, without the opportunity to ask questions like this.

[Shamester]

Visited around 300 pm. Big lineup. Only a few standouts. Tangara has better quality chicas. BTW there is a Japanese chica named ayumi. Too country looking for me.

Waited for a chica named Bella. Young slim mulatta. Hot. Already knew the service would be lackluster. It's okay since you get to play with a chica that would be big dollars in the us. Pricing is the same as Tangara.

Started with a standing BJ. No kissing. Wanted to get condom on and go after around seven minutes.

Transitioned to love making. Lackluster. Nice round firm rack. Zero sag. Sexy she keeps on her heels and places one leg on the wall while sucking.

Extra money for ball sucking. BJ is okay with teeth. It's okay since you won't cum as quick. Average cowgirl and missionary. Finished with a good BJ and big cum from HJ.

Younger hot chicas are less skilled with bad attitudes. However the giant relief and post feeling are worth it.

One and done.

Maybe repeat with another.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I agree with this. Brazilian girls, even the bad ones, tend to be honest about what they will do and not do. Unlike FKK Romanians for example, who will just lie.

The main problem is that in most clinicas you just get a lineup and a peck on the cheek from each girl, without the opportunity to ask questions like this.You always have the option to request to speak to the girl you want. I do it always. If they say you cannot, walk out.

[AltoBomGosto]

I agree with this. Brazilian girls, even the bad ones, tend to be honest about what they will do and not do. Unlike FKK Romanians for example, who will just lie.

The main problem is that in most clinicas you just get a lineup and a peck on the cheek from each girl, without the opportunity to ask questions like this.Remember the name of the girl who was of your choice call the receptionist and tell her that you want to interview her. If you don't speak Português better have a Brazilian wingman with you.

[Turgid]

I agree with this. Brazilian girls, even the bad ones, tend to be honest about what they will do and not do. Unlike FKK Romanians for example, who will just lie.

The main problem is that in most clinicas you just get a lineup and a peck on the cheek from each girl, without the opportunity to ask questions like this.I frequent FKKs and my experience is that the Romanians would not lie as such. For example, if they agree to BBBJ you will get BBBJ but may get it for just 5 minutes or not as long as you would like. I have never encountered a Romanian who promised a service that she did not deliver. A country where the provider will promise a service and not deliver is India. You will go with a woman who promised BBBJ and in the room she will say "That is not allowed, Sir". In other Latin American countries you will basically get what you asked for. In Brazil you may actually get service over and beyond your expectations.

[Shamester]

Last night visited espaco vergueiro. Free cover with fairly priced drinks.

Go early and find your chica. After 1000 pm the ratio changes dramatically for the bad.

Selected a slim leggy Modelo chica named Nan. What is incredible is she is married with 2 kids. 24 why / o. No stretch marks, saggy tits and stretched pussy. Tight beyond belief.

Complete sweetheart. Good kisser. Enjoys oral. Obedient. Nice ass. Screwing could be improved. Go doggy. Watching her naked in heels is a spectacular sight.

Stay away from the overpriced clubs.

[Shamester]

Visited this afternoon. Good lineup but many dudes. IMo there is no worrying about someone snagging your chica. Remember to get your chica's name because if she's popular they hide them downstairs to promote fairness. The ones just reporting are introduced and circulate.

BTW highly suggest staying at Bienal Suites. It's a five minute walk to Tangara. Good boutique hotel.

Selected Lydia. Tattooed chica with a skinny body, nice tits and ass. Asked if she French kisses. Yes, she calls it Greek kissing.

Decent kisser. Loves to suck. Follows instructions. Sucks your balls for a long time. Most chicas won't do that. Good BJ.

Phenomenal cowgirl. What a sight when this hot chica is mounting you. Then the jackhammer. Then reverse cowgirl. Better than talitha. Repeat for sure.

Quick observation -- Tangara has a preference for dark h as are; Vani's way is more light haired chicas.

[AltoBomGosto]

Last night visited espaco vergueiro. Free cover with fairly priced drinks.

Go early and find your chica. After 1000 pm the ratio changes dramatically for the bad.

Selected a slim leggy Modelo chica named Nan. What is incredible is she is married with 2 kids. 24 why / o. No stretch marks, saggy tits and stretched pussy. Tight beyond belief.

Complete sweetheart. Good kisser. Enjoys oral. Obedient. Nice ass. Screwing could be improved. Go doggy. Watching her naked in heels is a spectacular sight.

Stay away from the overpriced clubs.The name of the girl is Nanda, better known as Nandinha.

ABG.