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Azn Safado
05-19-19, 04:00
After getting tired of seeing the same faces on the Moema Rectangle Tour, I decided to try something a little different. For those of you who don't know what the Moema Rectangle is, it's the following (can't really draw a rectangle properly with this forum interface) clinicas all within walking distance of each other:
1) Prime (Av Irai 511) ========================> 2) Miruna's (Av Miruna 644)
4) Enjoy (Rua Condessa do Pinhal, 279) <============= 3) Abbobora (Alameda dos Guaramomis 1275)
I couldn't really find any reviews of this Doutora Oyama massage place on GpGuia and only found some 10 year old reviews on ISG. Apparently, this place has been around since 1970! I went to this place on a Friday afternoon at 5 pm. I was greeted by the receptionist who was very nice and offered me water, coffee, etc. She took me to a small room with a wall of pictures of 8 different girls. Just the typical shots of them in lingerie or whatever and not too touched up. I asked about a few of them such as how old they were and if they had natural or silicone tits. She answered all my questions so I chose a petite morena. How it works is you pay 250 reais to the house and then pay for extras with the girl.
The receptionist took me up to the room which was very large and had a queen sized massage type bed, a separate bathroom, and jacuzzi tub. I took a shower and put on a provided robe and waited for the massagista to enter the room. She was quite beautiful and looked like her pictures. She was very friendly and asked me if I wanted just a massage or more. I told her that I wanted full service after the massage. So I start by laying on my stomach and she gives me a very good and thorough massage with massage oil. Girls here are professionally trained masseuses so the massage was actually very good. At about the half hour point, she starts laying on top of my back and doing the body slide massage and then starts nibbling on my ear. She then turns me over and starts giving me some serious DFK. I didn't really know what to expect from this place. I figured it would be just a massage with some full service, but probably something mechanical. So after a bunch of kissing, she then gives me a very long BBBJ. Then onto the sex (covered of course). Overall service was excellent and very GFE and I really liked the fact that there was a lot of build up leading to the sex. It's definitely different from the clinica routine where you shower and then immediately go at it with your chosen girl. Final damage was 500 reais. This place is expensive and probably like The Palms and some of the other high end places of which I've never actually tried.
1 hour session - 250 reais to the house.
HJ only - 150 reais to the girl.
Full service - 250 reais to the girl.
AltoBomGosto
05-19-19, 11:27
Perhaps you all can help me find what I am looking for. I will be visiting SP / Brazil for the first time in a couple months, staying in the Pacaembu area at a hotel with some business colleagues (***) for about six days. In the hobby, my favorite thing to do is to find an escort who is also open to erotic photography, but I find this difficult, particularly in a new country where I have no language skills. I would be interested in going to a clinica (no photography, obviously) if it was close, but I'm concerned about crime and such in a city that I don't know at all and will have limited time to explore on my own. Someone coming to my hotel might be the best thing. Thoughts?I will be glad to take you to the best clinicas and boites, I am located in Jardins, very close to Pacaembu, please PM me. See my add on the advertising section of this board. Please PM me.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
05-19-19, 11:57
Salaam Mr Carnarvon. In my experience Tangara is pretty much always crowded with guys. I like to wait for a pretty girl. But as soon as one appears she is grabbed by a local. I feel like I'm in a competition, which is not what I go to these places for.
And if a girl is pretty and none of the locals is taking her, you have to wonder: do they know something I don't?
Now I know I will be slaughtered by Tangara fans/promoters. Just my 2 dirhams anyway.Tangara has one of the best lineups in São Paulo but gets crowded with customers after 4 PM. So if you want to choose a girl without hassle be there before 2 PM, ask for the receptionist Suzan, she speaks English and will be very patient to help you.
Regarding mulatas, TG has one of the best selection of mulatas in town! Yesterday there were 4 of them, Thea from Bahia, Keila Carioca, Sofi long hair, Susy petite paulista and Letícia Capixaba.
For more information please PM me!
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
05-19-19, 12:02
The Moema clinicas are not far. The Sao Paulo fears are a bit overdone if you follow sensible, secure precautions. I would consider just taking an Uber or even better AltoBomGosto will take you hunting clinica girls in his car for a very reasonable rate. He might even be able to find you a clinica girls who doesn't object to photos.
Escorts are of course an option and the last several months have recommendations of well-reviewed girls. If a girl has a twitter and / or a website profile with lots of facial photos, I'm guessing you can negotiate a nominal extra fee for photos.Also in the clinicas in the rooms you will be able to take pictures at a reasonable fee.
Don't attempt to take unallowed pictures if so you are going to be immediately be expelled of the place.
For details PM me.
ABG.
FRobertson
05-19-19, 16:16
So, I am back in the lovely Sao Paulo for a week.
1) If anyone is interested in a particular clinica and wants me to TOFT, let me know. But it should be a reasonably-priced place (none of those 250 for the house + 250 for the HJ directly to the girl types of places).
2) I just spent a few days in Buenos Aires, and the private girls scene there is wonderful. But the Argentina branch of this forum sucks. Does anyone know what's the story with it? (being a separate sucky forum).
AltoBomGosto
05-21-19, 02:45
So, I am back in the lovely Sao Paulo for a week.
1) If anyone is interested in a particular clinica and wants me to TOFT, let me know. But it should be a reasonably-priced place (none of those 250 for the house + 250 for the HJ directly to the girl types of places).
2) I just spent a few days in Buenos Aires, and the private girls scene there is wonderful. But the Argentina branch of this forum sucks. Does anyone know what's the story with it? (being a separate sucky forum).Please PM me for details.
ABG.
Hello ABG,
I will be in SAO on June 1, interested in one of your world famous tours. I am trying to figure out how to pay for premium membership with a prepaid card (it won't allow because there is no address associated). I will PM you when I get it sorted out.
HarvestBoi
05-21-19, 20:34
So I hadn't had any live pussy in months. I know for most this seems unthinkable but I'm getting older and to quote the late Patrice O'Neal "Mostly the reason I fuck now is so I can jerk off later, thinking about it". If it happened to a great man like Patrice, it can happen to me.
Another reason for the long drought is that my local scene has gone to shit since the FOSTA debacle. No local boards to sift out the scammers etc. I had 3 favorites but like me they are starting to age out and, truth be told, I was getting a little bored with them. One shacked up, one had a kid and one graduated to the high end courtesan scene.
The courtesan gave me the name of her booker and I perused the site. With the new set up in the US, this isn't a public site but invitation only. Full of mid 30's women who have been in the game for years and have learned the power of cosmetic surgery and photoshop. But certainly attractive enough and I'm sure the service is good, if lacking in carinhoso.
But the prices, my God! The lowest was $600/ HR and went up to $1000! Sorry but I'm not paying that. One agency I kept in contact with from the pre-FOSTA days advertises girls at $400, GFE service. Mostly the girls don't appeal but they occasionally have Brazileras who come through who look safada so I took flyer and drove the hour plus to her hotel downtown.
Nice enough garota, big tits and a bunda plump and firm, blond hair, tan lines. A 7-8 on my scale. At Tangara she'd be a maybe and at Scandallo I'd probably pass. But her DFK was unenthusiastic, always a bad sign. While she performed all the alphabet, including anal, it was obvious that I was one of many hourly dicks she was going to service over the next week or so and her heart just wasn't in it. All told the damage was $500 (extra for anal) plus the time to drive to the city, park etc.
Now what is the moral from this sad tale of woe? Well, when it comes up, as it will, about foreign mongers overpaying it's important to remember the context they are coming from. If I fly to Sampa and find a girl twice as hot as one I can find at home (if I can find her at all) for a quarter the price, paying an extra 100-200 reals seems to be irrational economizing. I understand it distorts the local scene and I try to be as sensitive to that as I can but if I'm only in town for a couple of weeks and I meet a 10 I'm going to pay the freight. After all, I'm really only doing it so I can jerk off thinking about it later. Have pity.
FRobertson
05-21-19, 21:43
Now what is the moral from this sad tale of woe? Well, when it comes up, as it will, about foreign mongers overpaying it's important to remember the context they are coming from. If I fly to Sampa and find a girl twice as hot as one I can find at home (if I can find her at all) for a quarter the price, paying an extra 100-200 reals seems to be irrational economizing. I understand it distorts the local scene and I try to be as sensitive to that as I can but if I'm only in town for a couple of weeks and I meet a 10 I'm going to pay the freight. After all, I'm really only doing it so I can jerk off thinking about it later. Have pity.Yes, the sex prison has gotten *A LOT* worse since the demise of craigslists etc. And the dumb creatures are pricing themselves right out of the market, with the sub-$1 k tickets to Brazil and Argentina easily available, not to mention Mexico. With the Florida sting operation, I am even super cautious about the massage establishments nowadays. So I totally understand your going sex-free for months.
The problem of overpaying is not so much as meeting your 10 and giving her the price she asks. It's more of throwing money at girls when they aren't asking for it. Eg. Uncalled-for tips in Tangara, offering USA rates without asking the price first, and in general lavishing girls with the money that they didn't ask for and didn't expect. We don't want to equalize the worldwide rates to the american insanity any more that we want the worldwide healthcare system to keep people just one broken leg away from bankruptcy.
FRobertson
05-21-19, 21:51
Getting there and back.
Buenos Aires Ezeiza airport (EZE) is about 3 hours from Sao Paulo and it's well-connected to the rest of the world. Quite a few passports can get in with no visa. The airport is not super busy but depending on the size of your plane and how many people are ahead of you, the wait at the passport control and the customs can be 30 minutes or longer. The process is standardized and reasonably efficient. The border officer will take your photo and take your thumbprint, both entering and leaving the country.
Uber *does not* work in Argentina (it requires a credit card from Argentina in order for it to work, which obviously travelers won't have – but the application will look like it's working until the moment you try to book a ride, at which time the app will fail).
There's an "official taxi" stand at the airport terminals just by the exit. They are 100% legit, with a flat rate to downtown Buenos Aires being about US $30, they actually take cash USD and EUR, they take credit cards too but there's a slight surcharge. Pay at the stand and their employee will take you to the taxi and hand you over to the driver.
That same company will pick you up downtown and take you back to the airport for 990 pesos (about $22) and can be scheduled via whatsapp. The scheduling dispatcher can write in English. To get that special rate, they only take Argentinian pesos in cash. So just save a 1000 for the return trip.
Money.
ATMs have an insane surcharge of 279 pesos (about $6) **per transaction** and withdrawal limits are currently at 4000 pesos (about $90). Yes it's usury. But there's no way around it. Bringing foreign cash and trying to exchange it has a host of challenges with it (finding a place to do it, making sure it's during work hours, etc). Foreign currency is not popular with the girls. But Schwab bank **will** reimburse this fee. Most ATMs take foreign cards and dispense cash. There are a few ATMs in the airport but you have to look for them. But they are there.
Getting around.
Buenos Aires downtown-ish area is incredibly walkable. In less than half an hour can walk pretty much anywhere within the downtown area.
While Uber is not working, the local taxis are plentiful, cheap (pay by the meter and it's very reasonable – 100-200 pesos gets you anywhere within the downtown area) and the drivers seem to be honest. They rarely speak any foreign language so I generally just walk to avoid the language barrier, sometimes I take the taxi back to the hotel, which is simplified by taking a hotel card that has an address with you.
Sleeping, eating, etc.
Hotels publish discounts on booking.com.
Airbnbs are plentiful – read reviews.
Food is likewise plentiful. My favorite are empanadas (filled pastries). Fancy touristy places are IMHO overrated.
Seeing the city.
There's a number of free walking tours available. A great way to get your bearings. Takes about 2-3 hours.
The girls.
My sole resource has been http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts-acompanantes.htm.
To the left, you'll see the categories.
Novedades – doesn't mean new girls, could be updated listings.
Mujeres – this is what you'll likely want.
Maduritas – for the lovers of the aged wine.
Masajistas – these usually include at least a HJ.
Fantasias – an occasional whip and chain could be found here.
Traviesas – some nice looking traps are available.
The best part about that site is if you are browsing from your phone, click on a "whatsapp" link from a girl's profile, and it'll let you send a standard message – already in Spanish – to that girl (naturally you must have whatsapp installed on your phone for it to work).
To the right of the girl's main pic, there's a link to the search for her reviews on the forum:
"Experiencias? Buscar en el foro" – http://www.foroescortsar.com/foros/index.php The reviews there are superbly detailed and often with pics.
The girl will usually quickly respond with a standardized message describing her location, rates, and work hours. Only some of them work on weekends. They also usually include specifics (such as anal) and whether they do BBBJ (bucal sin) – obviously can be clarified to suit your needs. Mine are rather basic so it hardly ever becomes an issue. The girls are generally booking a little in advance but could be available immediately.
Most girls have their own rooms for meetings, but there are a few that would go to your hotel. I haven't tried the latter type (no real need to). Rooms usually are pretty basic but shower is available as well as a towel.
The cost I've seen ranges from 1500 to 2000 pesos ($34-44) for an hour. Half an hour is also available but I used that option only once. In some cases there are 2-girl specials, could be 3500 for that.
The girls generally have a good, friendly attitude. They spend the entire hour with you, usually lots of hugging and kissing. BBBJ is common. The deed can be done as many times as you can manage.
Basically there are 2 types of girls at those sites:
- true private providers. She would have an apartment just to herself (or at least a room), puts up her own ad, manages responses, generally those apartments are in better shape.
- agency or group apartments. Still every girl would have an ad with her pics but someone else would handle the messaging and scheduling.
Photos could be hit or miss. Generally from what I've seen there's decent enough resemblance in over 50% of the photos. But to be honest I haven't met a girl who's truly ugly from these ads. Well, actually I did meet a surprisingly big girl and not very pretty. But she more than made up for it with her friendly attitude and her tongue skills.
The response rate is very close to 100%, and if they don't respond right away they're probably busy and they will respond when they become available. They generally provide all necessary information in the first message. The price for the hour and half an hour, approximate location, work hours (generally until 7-8-9 pm, some girls work weekends while others don't) and what they include (BBBJ / anal). Making an appointment is also super easy and they are punctual. I usually show up right on time or maybe 1-2 minutes early, had to wait for a few minutes once when the girl literally just walked in from the street to meet me, and another time had to wait for almost an hour because I wanted a threesome but the second girl was busy. So the first girl sat with me but we were supposed to keep it G-rated until the second girl showed up. I just took a nap with my head in her lap. And the experience was totally worth the wait.
Also they rarely if ever try to upsell or beg for tips. Generally the price is all-inclusive (anal is frequently extra but I'm not interested in that so if you are, do ask up front), and they don't limit you on how many times you can do the deed.
The districts "Microcentro" and "Tribunales" are very easily accessible and generally safe (of course use common sense) and most girls are within 10-15 minutes walk within that area.
I used google translate to communicate, never had much problem. If the doorman at the building asks where you're going just show him the address. Never got any hard time from any doormen.
Elevators in the buildings are tricky. If it's on your floor, the 2 sets of doors you open by hand. Make sure you close them both when you exit the elevator, or the next person won't be able to call it.
Additionally, different elevators or elevator banks can serve different apartment numbers. E. g. If you are going to an apartment 10 F, you get to the 10th floor and only see apartments A,be, see, the – then you likely need to go back down and find another elevator bank.
Are you going to find gorgeous 10's at those places and have crazy parties, booze, and sex through the night? Probably not. But if you are looking for that warm girl-next-door who would do you for a $40 feeling, this is the place to get it.
Took Uber back to my hotel (BTW, an Uber select private car cost around R12 each way to Tangara), picked up dinner from a grocery store, and got more rest. Later in the evening, I was trying to decide between Kilt Show (recommended by ABG below) or Casarao. After going back and reading earlier messages about Kilt Show, I decided to give Casarao a try instead.
I got to Casarao around 11:30. I was a bit confused by the entry, which I now realize was either R40 all consumable or R20. Paid R40 but probably should have just done the R20. Oh well. Given what I had read in earlier reports, there were a lot more people there than I expected, maybe 60-80 girls and slightly more men. Plus, the quality was overall better than Tangara, same low end (even a couple of the same girls from Tangara) but on the high end maybe 3-4 girls that I would put in the 8-9/10 range in looks. All shapes and sizes, hair colors, skin colors. Between the ground floor and lower level, it took me a long time to get a feel for the place and check out the talent.
Those 3-4 girls were the ones I was considering. I spoke to a few girls to get a sense of how this worked, and most were quoting R250 for 30-40 minutes (plus R40 to the club for the room). Eventually, I took a girl named Alini (a blond with a pretty face and obvious implants (which are not normally my thing). We negotiated for a bit, and eventually we agreed on R350 for 1 hour of tudo (including anal) plus R80 for the room. She was nice enough, but she was not quite my speed (more PSE than GFE), so I would not repeat.
I was feeling tired at that point, so I left at around 3 am. Total cost for me at Casarao was R40 entry including drinks + R350 girl + R80 room = R470. FYI, Uber cost around R25 each from to / from my hotel in Moema.
More to come.
Slept in late on Monday morning and had a hearty late breakfast / brunch at my hotel before making a plan for the day. Decided to do a walking tour of Moema clinicas, which I started at around noon and finished around 3 pm.
I walked 20 minutes to get to Red Massagem. The lady at the front desk was nice, and although she didn't speak English, she had a 'menu' in English. There were about 10 girls there, but the talent was in the 4-5/10 range in looks to my eye, so no one really met my spec, and I decided to head out.
After another 10-15 minute walk, I arrived at Abbobora Massagem. It's a little confusing to find the entrance, which is on the side of the building by the carpark, not the door facing the street. The lady at the front desk didn't speak English, but she was also not very nice or patient. The talent here, however, was clearly better, in the 6-7/10 range in looks by my standards, maybe 10-15 girls. I was taking my time and considering my options, but even though there were a number of other men in there also waiting, the front desk lady was being kind of pushy, so I made my exit, and she gave me an exasperated huff as I walked out the door. Not sure why she was so huffy. In retrospect, those girls were the best I would see all day, so I probably should have taken one of my best choices there.
Clinica Miruna is almost across the street from Abbobora. Again, no English, but at least the reception lady was nice. About 10 girls in the 4-5/10 range in looks. I was told that a few girls were in the room, so I waited for a while, but the first one to come out was also not to my standard, and I decided to leave.
I walked another 5-10 minutes to reach EnjoySpa. Again, no English, but nice. About 5-10 girls in the 4-6/10 range. Not to my spec, so again I left.
Finally, I walked about 15 minutes to get to Moema Prime. No English, nice lady. About 5 girls in the 4-6/10 range again. It wasn't happening for me, so I left.
So, overall, I visited 5 clinicas (Red, Abbobora, Miruna, Enjoy, and Prime). Of those, the quality of girls was pretty similar (and not very good), except for Abbobora, which was clearly better. Of course, this is just my opinion, and only for this one timepoint on Monday afternoon.
My tour completed, I walked back to my hotel, stopping to pick up a late lunch / early dinner at a grocery store and also stopping by Shopping Ibirapuera and Banco Santander to withdraw more money for the rest of the week. It took me about 20 minutes to get back to my hotel.
At this point, I see Tangara as the best clinica option. Yes, the price is the lowest. But also, the management is nice and really helps to facilitate things. Plus, the girls hang out in the lounge area when not in the room, so it's easier to talk to the girls and make special requests or confirm services. And the quality of girls is similar in all places, although at least when I visited, Tangara had a wider range of girls' looks (from among the worst I had seen in the clinicas to among the best). I haven't yet visited Brooklin, Ceci, Donna, Yankin, or Vani's Way, but I'm not sure if it's worth it to schlep out to all of those places.
More to come.
Polyamorist
05-21-19, 23:50
The problem of overpaying is not so much as meeting your 10 and giving her the price she asks. It's more of throwing money at girls when they aren't asking for it. Eg. Uncalled-for tips in Tangara, offering USA rates without asking the price first, and in general lavishing girls with the money that they didn't ask for and didn't expect. We don't want to equalize the worldwide rates to the american insanity any more that we want the worldwide healthcare system to keep people just one broken leg away from bankruptcy.Well put. By the way guys, at Scandallo R$500 is standard for a girl, one hour. Their first offer means nothing. If you pay much more than 500 you are giving gringos a bad name, making us all look like idiots. And at some clinicas you can pay R$100 for 30 minutes. Divide by 4 for USD.
Azn Safado
05-22-19, 02:42
Well put. By the way guys, at Scandallo R$500 is standard for a girl, one hour. Their first offer means nothing. If you pay much more than 500 you are giving gringos a bad name, making us all look like idiots. And at some clinicas you can pay R$100 for 30 minutes. Divide by 4 for USD.The misconception about Scandallo is the rate that the girls want at Scandallo, being R$500 or R$600 or whatever you get her to lower it to, is the deterring factor for us mongers to avoid the place. It's really the overhead of the entrance fee and room fee. You're already in for R$470 before even adding on the price of the girl! It'll be minimum about R$1000 all in to do a program there, no matter how you slice it.
Polyamorist
05-22-19, 04:57
After another 10-15 minute walk, I arrived at Abbobora Massagem. It's a little confusing to find the entrance, which is on the side of the building by the carpark, not the door facing the street. The lady at the front desk didn't speak English, but she was also not very nice or patient. The talent here, however, was clearly better, in the 6-7/10 range in looks by my standards, maybe 10-15 girls. I was taking my time and considering my options, but even though there were a number of other men in there also waiting, the front desk lady was being kind of pushy, so I made my exit, and she gave me an exasperated huff as I walked out the door. Not sure why she was so huffy. In retrospect, those girls were the best I would see all day, so I probably should have taken one of my best choices there.
Salaam Pete. Abbobora is the only clinica I know that won't let you really chat to the girl to make sure she is the agreeing type. Some will blame the pushy reception lady. Anyway it's a deal-breaker for me. I could sympathize if they always had good-service girls and wanted to protect them, but I've been disappointed there before -- reminding me how important it is to check that the girl is in the right mood.
The misconception about Scandallo is the rate that the girls want at Scandallo, being R$500 or R$600 or whatever you get her to lower it to, is the deterring factor for us mongers to avoid the place. It's really the overhead of the entrance fee and room fee. You're already in for R$470 before even adding on the price of the girl! It'll be minimum about R$1000 all in to do a program there, no matter how you slice it.I have never seen anybody saying that 1 hour session price is 300 and something in Brooklin massagem, because he took a taxi from Jardins and back.
Hi guys,
I will visit in Sao Paulo next week and this is going to be my first time in Brazil.
Please let me know some good places as following categories.
1) Where I can have sex with beautiful ladies by paying money.
2) Where I can hit on beautiful ladies (I imagine bars or clubs).
3) any good places to men like me.
Thank you!
AltoBomGosto
05-22-19, 10:38
Salaam Pete. Abbobora is the only clinica I know that won't let you really chat to the girl to make sure she is the agreeing type. Some will blame the pushy reception lady. Anyway it's a deal-breaker for me. I could sympathize if they always had good-service girls and wanted to protect them, but I've been disappointed there before -- reminding me how important it is to check that the girl is in the right mood.The unfriendly reception and the fact that the clinic will not allow you talk to the girls before seasoning will mostly end up in a lousy service.
I particularly love to have BBBJTC, without a pré interview it's impossible to get.
For this reason Tangara is my favorite place, staff speaks English, you have one of the biggest line ups, average 30 girls, and you can chat with the girls before deciding.
ABG.
FRobertson
05-22-19, 11:40
At this point, I see Tangara as the best clinica option. Yes, the price is the lowest. But also, the management is nice and really helps to facilitate things. Plus, the girls hang out in the lounge area when not in the room, so it's easier to talk to the girls and make special requests or confirm services. And the quality of girls is similar in all places, although at least when I visited, Tangara had a wider range of girls' looks (from among the worst I had seen in the clinicas to among the best). I haven't yet visited Brooklin, Ceci, Donna, Yankin, or Vani's Way, but I'm not sure if it's worth it to schlep out to all of those places.
More to come.Awesome reports, thank you.
There are random gems that could be found at any clinic. The best times to see all the girls is early afternoon, when they are already working but before the crowds start arriving. Probably 1 pm or so is optimal for the first visit.
Also I saw in your earlier report that you were put off by the girls in Tangara who seemed cold or annoyed. I've seen that before, girls who seem cold, annoyed, or disinterested. But their attitude magically changed when we got to the room. So it may be productive to give them a chance if you find the face to your liking. Also, Tangara has a Whatsapp group they can sign you up for and they send out girls lists and photos throughout the day.
AltoBomGosto
05-22-19, 11:42
Salaam Pete. Abbobora is the only clinica I know that won't let you really chat to the girl to make sure she is the agreeing type. Some will blame the pushy reception lady. Anyway it's a deal-breaker for me. I could sympathize if they always had good-service girls and wanted to protect them, but I've been disappointed there before -- reminding me how important it is to check that the girl is in the right mood.I agree 100 per cent with you. A pre interview is is a must if you are looking for a good service. As for me A BBBJTC is a must, I never go with a girl I haven't talked before get laid with her.
ABG.
FRobertson
05-22-19, 14:09
For some reason, the Uber app would not work with my credit card,
Also, uber in Brazil runs the card as an international charge in BRL. Perhaps your card got a fraud alert. I have an amex card with no foreign transaction fees on my uber, works just fine.
As the ATM skimmers are a serious risk in Brazil, I prefer to do as few ATM withdrawals as possible to reduce the risk of exposure and minimize the inconvenience of going to a secure location. Actually I saw an ATM with double-sided sticky tape on the card receptacle, looked like a skimmer was removed from there recently. So personally I use my cards to pay wherever I can, and save my cash just for the mongering.
Hi guys,
I will visit in Sao Paulo next week and this is going to be my first time in Brazil.
Please let me know some good places as following categories.
1) Where I can have sex with beautiful ladies by paying money.
2) Where I can hit on beautiful ladies (I imagine bars or clubs).
3) any good places to men like me.
Thank you!Begin by reading the last 30 to 50 pages of the forum.
So, overall, I visited 5 clinicas (Red, Abbobora, Miruna, Enjoy, and Prime). Of those, the quality of girls was pretty similar (and not very good), except for Abbobora, which was clearly better. Of course, this is just my opinion, and only for this one timepoint on Monday afternoon.This has been mostly my experience with the clinicas to, although I did not visit Abbobora, but hope to next time. The clinica prices might be lower, but the looks I want just aren't there in enough numbers. Disappointing and not worth it to me to be running around all over the place trying to find a looker in a clinica who will do what I want. The boites and the "night league" is the place for me!
I will visit in Sao Paulo next week and this is going to be my first time in Brazil.
Please let me know some good places as following categories.
1) Where I can have sex with beautiful ladies by paying money.I'm pretty sure there is no pay for play scene in Sao Paulo. Oh well.
Borat will visit São Paulo.
Hi guys,
I will visit in Sao Paulo next week and this is going to be my first time in Brazil.
Please let me know some good places as following categories.
1) Where I can have sex with beautiful ladies by paying money.
2) Where I can hit on beautiful ladies (I imagine bars or clubs).
3) any good places to men like me.
Thank you!
Borat will visit So Paulo.Haha, now that's funny!!
MongerForSex
05-22-19, 18:07
Hi guys,
I will visit in Sao Paulo next week and this is going to be my first time in Brazil.
Please let me know some good places as following categories.
1) Where I can have sex with beautiful ladies by paying money.
2) Where I can hit on beautiful ladies (I imagine bars or clubs).
3) any good places to men like me.
Thank you!There are many clubs and clinicas where you can find beautiful women. Your questions are not specific, you ask questions that are already answered. You must read some posts. You need to subscribe so that you can PM some of the experienced members. AltoBomGosto is a good contributor and knows many things about Sao Paulo, you can contact him.
Jimmy Boy 99
05-22-19, 18:11
I have never seen anybody saying that 1 hour session price is 300 and something in Brooklin massagem, because he took a taxi from Jardins and back.If Brooklin required you to take their taxi to and from Jardins, like Scandalo requires you to pay entrance and room fees, then the actual session price would be 300 and something.
FRobertson
05-22-19, 22:51
Salaam Mr Carnarvon. In my experience Tangara is pretty much always crowded with guys. I like to wait for a pretty girl. But as soon as one appears she is grabbed by a local. I feel like I'm in a competition, which is not what I go to these places for.
And if a girl is pretty and none of the locals is taking her, you have to wonder: do they know something I don't?
Now I know I will be slaughtered by Tangara fans/promoters. Just my 2 dirhams anyway.It helps to show up right after the opening time (or after the first whatsapp message with the list) and watching them stroll in. Got 2 amazing beauties this way today.
Got some rest on Monday afternoon, then took Uber to Espaco Vergueiro around 10 pm. The place was very, very quiet with only a few men there. There were about 10 girls, with most in the 4-5/10 range. One I could generously give a 6. And then there was one very unattractive lady who also came and introduced herself, which I assume means she worked there, but she was definitely on the wrong side of 40 and may have even been on the wrong side of 50; I won't even try to give her a rating. The management was very nice, and a few people came to talk to me, but in the end it was clear that there was not going to be anything there for me, so I left and took Uber back to Casarao.
I got to Casarao around 11 pm and this time I knew to pay the R20 entry. At first, it seemed worse than yesterday, with more men but fewer and less pretty girls. Most of my targets from the previous night were not there, although the girl I did choose last night was there (despite the fact that she said she only worked weekends), and I had no desire to repeat. She was friendly, though, and came over to say Hello,. Over the next couple of hours, the club did fill with more (and better) girls and more men. By around 1 am, I saw one of my targets from last night, a girl named Kelly with long dyed blond hair, tats, and piercings. She had a striking face that I found attractive and a fantastic slim body. She agreed to R250 for 30 minutes, including kissing and BBBJ. Headed to the room and paid R40 for the room. In the room, however, she pretty much avoided kissing as much as she could. She definitely had a 'program' that she was sticking to, but she did do a good BBBJ with BLS.
When I headed out around 2 am, the place was packed and the music was even louder (if that's possible). Total cost for me at Casarao this time was R20 entry + R10 drink (water) + R250 girl + R40 room = R320. Took Uber back to the hotel.
More to come.
Slept in late again on Tuesday morning but woke up in time for another brunch at my hotel. At around 11:30, I took Uber to Clinica Yankin. That clinica is actually very close to a metro stop, so I could have taken the Metro from Moema, but given that the Uber was only R16, it hardly seemed worth the time or effort.
When I arrived at Yankin, there was only one other client there, plus an older Asian guy who was sitting with a woman who seemed like an employee (not a provider); I'm still not sure about those two. The lady at reception was nice and explained things using Google Translate. She only had 2 girls to present, who were in the 4-5/10 range. Another girl in the same range walked in soon after. I waited there for about 30 minutes, but things were still looking bleak, so I bailed and headed to Tangara.
I walked to Tangara, which was quite straightforward and took about 20 minutes. At Tangara, the lineup was worse than on Sunday, with a total of maybe 15 girls in the 4-6/10 range with one girl clearly the standout at maybe 7-8/10. Men were coming and going, but there was a pretty constant 4-5 men waiting at any point in time. I waited to see if the better looking girl would become free or if another better girl might arrive, but after killing some time, I eventually left at around 2:30. As I noted in an earlier post, I did confirm with the manager, Susan, that prices at Tangara are increasing later this week to R120 for 30 minutes and R170 for 60 minutes.
Took Uber back to the hotel to get some rest.
More to come.
SP Trip Report, Day 3, Part 2 - Scandallo.
After taking a nap, I woke up and got ready to go to Scandallo on Tuesday night. My goal was to get there before 7 pm to take advantage of the lower entry (R150 before 7 pm, R220 after 7 pm, with R150 consumable either way) and to use the consumable on dinner. However, my earlier trips were not really at rush hour, so I underestimated the effect of traffic and the amount of time it would take to get there. I ordered my Uber at 6:10, and I was sweating it a bit because I didn't know how strict they would be with the entry time, but I did make it there with 5 minutes to spare. You walk in through a garage area and visit the cashiers to check-in. They ask to see your passport to gain entry. Then they give you a card to keep track of food / drink, and your entry is also put on this card.
As has been noted in earlier reports, this place is really swanky- nice modern decor, big spaces, luxurious vibe, and lots of security and waiters. I wandered around trying not to look lost and found my way to the restaurant. The food prices are actually not bad, from maybe R60 and up for entrees, especially given the portion sizes. I ordered a steak salad, and it was pretty good with enough food to fill me up. After eating, I wandered around to check out the facilities and the ladies. Most of the club is closed off early in the day, then they open it later when things pick up. One girl offered to take me on a tour, so she showed me around, which was helpful. The central outdoor courtyard area (which I was told used to have small huts and tents) is now undergoing renovation, although no one seemed to know what was planned. I remember Steve writing about the little door for delivering drinks in the rooms as a measure of luxury; for me, it was the dental floss in the bathrooms, which was a nice amenity.
My first impression was that the women in this place were considerably more attractive than anywhere else I had been in Sao Paulo, or anywhere else I've ever been for that matter. I would put it on par with or maybe better than Globe in Zurich, if not just for sheer numbers. Most girls were in the 7-8/10 range, and there were easily 10-20 girls I would put in the 9-10/10 range. There were only a few I would rate at 5/10 or below. There were almost no black girls (I think I saw 2-3), but there were a few Asian girls (including one very pretty half-Japanese girl who was nice and spoke excellent English), and there were even a few redheads. During peak time (11 pm to 1 am), there must have been 200-300 girls there, with super-hot girls everywhere you looked. In short, this place is amazing. Most of the girls quoted prices of R600-R800 per hour (except for the half-Japanese girl, who quoted R1000) with different services included.
There were so many pretty girls, and so many continuing to arrive, that it was hard to even get a handle on the place. Usually, when I go to a club, I like to check out all of the talent, choose my 2-3 favorites, and then talk to those few to figure out my order of preference. Here, every time I would look for a girl, I would see another new candidate. There were just too many girls, and I was literally spoiled for choice. In the end, while I was looking for another girl, I saw one of my targets standing idly, and I approached her. Her name was Bruna, and she was very pretty (I would rate her as one of the 9/10's), but she looked kind of like one of my long-ago girlfriends but with red hair, which really appealed to me. Plus she was very nice and was giving me a good vibe while I was talking to her, so I decided to take her to the room. We agreed on R600 for one hour including the stuff I like (but no anal), which was okay with me.
The system is a bit confusing; you go downstairs and then upstairs again to go to another set of cashiers, where you pay for the room (R200 for one hour). Then you go upstairs from there to get to the rooms. The place is huge - it looks like there are 4 floors of rooms, with many rooms per floor -- and the rooms themselves are nice with dual showers, toilets, music, TV, and AC. In the room, Bruna delivered with a great GFE and all of the fun stuff that goes with with that. After we were finished and all cleaned up, I paid her in cash in the room, and we headed back downstairs.
At that point, I was pretty tired. I took a few more laps around the place just to get a sense of it, as it was even more crowded than before with even more new pretty faces. Then I went back downstairs to check out. It turned out that my food and drinks, plus the piece of cake I bought to share with one girl, came to R145, so I just paid my R150 for entry, which covered all of that. In total, I spent R150 entry / consumables + R200 room + R600 girl = R950. Then I took Uber back to my hotel.
I understand that this was expensive for Sao Paulo, but the difference in girl quality was huge between this place and the clinicas or Espaco Vergueiro, and the overall experience was also much better. In the grand scheme of things, since I don't come to Brazil often, and having spent so much on flights and the hotel, I would rather just spend the money for the experience. Also, the cost is really not that different from an FKK club in Germany or Switzerland when you factor in the club entry costs and girls' service levels. Now I was going to have to make some choices about what to do with the rest of my time here.
More to come.
Polyamorist
05-23-19, 04:19
As the ATM skimmers are a serious risk in Brazil, I prefer to do as few ATM withdrawals as possible to reduce the risk of exposure and minimize the inconvenience of going to a secure location. Ya lahwy! I was once hit by that at Guarulhos. Seriously after all these years the airport authorities don't know what's going on?
Afterwards my bank wouldn't even talk to me. Internationally Brazil is a financial pariah. Don't even try to get money in electronically. Stick to cash always.
If Brooklin required you to take their taxi to and from Jardins, like Scandalo requires you to pay entrance and room fees, then the actual session price would be 300 and something.It's quite common practice that the clients in a nightclub have to pay for their drinks and that's what Scandallo is, a nightclub. I don't think the prices are even high for a nightclub. The minimum consumption in my opinion is a good thing, because it keeps certain kind of people out of the place. If not, the place would be like a clinica, where the usual suspects come every day to socialize with each other and wouldn't consume anything and wouldn't take any girls for a session. I don't consider the money I leave to the house part of the pussy price. I pay for the nightclub experience, where all the female clients are interested in me and want to have sex with me. Quite unique for a guy of 56. If one calculates the total cost of getting laid and that's the only thing you get from going to Scandallo, Bomboa or a clinica, then the taxi fare is part of that cost. YMMV.
Ya lahwy! I was once hit by that at Guarulhos. Seriously after all these years the airport authorities don't know what's going on?
Afterwards my bank wouldn't even talk to me. Internationally Brazil is a financial pariah. Don't even try to get money in electronically. Stick to cash always.You always have the option of transferring money directly from the US (or anywhere else) and simply picking up the cash at a convenient location. Transferwise, Western Union, or any remittance service will do. Set up an account in the US, affect a transfer and pick it up at the most convenient location for you. You also get decent rates and convenience. The only caution is that you need to determine what verification you will need, it is best (easiest) to set up the system before leaving the US.
Jib Reach.
The misconception about Scandallo is the rate that the girls want at Scandallo, being R$500 or R$600 or whatever you get her to lower it to, is the deterring factor for us mongers to avoid the place. It's really the overhead of the entrance fee and room fee. You're already in for R$470 before even adding on the price of the girl! It'll be minimum about R$1000 all in to do a program there, no matter how you slice it.For the hottest girls I'd rather go to Germany and do FKK girls who are of similar or even better quality, for less overall.
For the hottest girls I'd rather go to Germany and do FKK girls who are of similar or even better quality, for less overall.Hottest girls maybe, but not sure you get the better experience in the FKKs. I have visited both places numerous times, and I tend to lean towards Brazil for a more fun experience.
MongerForSex
05-23-19, 14:31
For the hottest girls I'd rather go to Germany and do FKK girls who are of similar or even better quality, for less overall.Brazilian women are sexier and better looking than Romanian women (more diverse), they also offer better service. You can find any kind of woman in Brazil, there is taste for everyone.
FRobertson
05-23-19, 15:18
Brazilian women are sexier and better looking than Romanian women (more diverse), they also offer better service. You can find any kind of woman in Brazil, there is taste for everyone.I have yet to find any Asian women here.
Steve 9696
05-23-19, 15:46
Hottest girls maybe, but not sure you get the better experience in the FKKs. I have visited both places numerous times, and I tend to lean towards Brazil for a more fun experience.I won't join The Who is Hotter debate. Love my Brasileiras and Ro-girls equally in this respect. But Brasileiras win the GFE hands down. As I've said before they have a unique ability to live in the moment and truly enjoy (or appear to) their time with you. Sure selected Ro-Girls bring strong GFE (Cambria London, Kate Globe) but it seems to come easy to the majority of Brasileiras.
The FKK and the Boate are DIFFERENT experiences. I strongly suggest BOTH!
Scandallo versus all the other options has been discussed extensively. I don't consider the minimum consumption as part of the price for a girl. Minimum consumption is a common concept in popular Brazilian clubs and bars. So really, it is what it is and it's not unusual.
Having said that, Scandallo is an expensive option for the SP scene when you factor in the girl's rate plus the room. I've been with top escorts that cost less than a Scandallo hook-up. These escort girls would be among the hottest in Scandallo and often times they are. Again, I'm not sure this can be debated.
When I return to Sao Paulo, I'll still probably return to Scandallo.
Brazilian women are sexier and better looking than Romanian women (more diverse), they also offer better service. You can find any kind of woman in Brazil, there is taste for everyone.I won't argue with you regarding sexiness and looks, that depends on personal taste. However, there is no disputing that Brazilian women are miles ahead in terms of GFE and service. I visit FKKs for the looks of the girls and Brazil for exhilarating fornication.
DreamCarnarvon
05-24-19, 11:09
Slept in late again on Tuesday morning but woke up in time for another brunch at my hotel. At around 11:30, I took Uber to Clinica Yankin.How did you get uber to work?? I never had to use uber until yesterday. It asked for CPF. I used one I got from a menina but then it asked for date of birth, which obviously I did not have. So I tried the alternative and added my credit card info, which was an US credit card BTW. Although I was able to select my destination and my payment method (cash), I never could get the order to go through. The app always gave me a message saying "something went wrong".
I won't argue with you regarding sexiness and looks, that depends on personal taste. However, there is no disputing that Brazilian women are miles ahead in terms of GFE and service. I visit FKKs for the looks of the girls and Brazil for exhilarating fornication.I would argue that they deliver the best PSE sex too, including anal sex. Most of us here think highly of the Brazilian girls as sex vixens. That's why we frequent this part of the site and daydream about our next opportunity to visit Brazil!
I'm very fussy about finding pretty girls. I always find them all over Southern Brazil. And 80% of the time, they aren't satisfied unless they are satisfying me. The other 20% (roughly) do a decent job with the rare bad attitude in between.
I can't get into the Ro-girl look in general. I prefer Czech girls as they have softer features and more Germanic mixed-in. I believe Prague has become hit or miss for finding Czech girls who are hot and offer good service. Of course, a lot of Euros will find you anything you want.
Member #4733
05-24-19, 18:21
How did you get uber to work?? I never had to use uber until yesterday. It asked for CPF. I used one I got from a menina but then it asked for date of birth, which obviously I did not have. So I tried the alternative and added my credit card info, which was an US credit card BTW. Although I was able to select my destination and my payment method (cash), I never could get the order to go through. The app always gave me a message saying "something went wrong".If you google 'gerardor cpf' you will find quite a few sites to give you a cpf. I used it appr 7 years ago to buy plane tickets. I guess it still works.
I'm very fussy about finding pretty girls. I always find them all over Southern Brazil. And 80% of the time, they aren't satisfied unless they are satisfying me. The other 20% (roughly) do a decent job with the rare bad attitude in between.
I can't get into the Ro-girl look in general. I prefer Czech girls as they have softer features and more Germanic mixed-in. I believe Prague has become hit or miss for finding Czech girls who are hot and offer good service. Of course, a lot of Euros will find you anything you want.A Czech babe from my freelance photojournalist days in Prague, circa 1997. Damn, I can't remember her name. But I'll never forget that ass!
Steve 9696
05-25-19, 01:22
I'm very fussy about finding pretty girls. I always find them all over Southern Brazil. And 80% of the time, they aren't satisfied unless they are satisfying me. The other 20% (roughly) do a decent job with the rare bad attitude in between.
I can't get into the Ro-girl look in general. I prefer Czech girls as they have softer features and more Germanic mixed-in. I believe Prague has become hit or miss for finding Czech girls who are hot and offer good service. Of course, a lot of Euros will find you anything you want.Wyatt dude you must be looking in the wrong places. Go to Diva Escorts London and peruse. They are 90% Ro-girls. If you can't find one that lights you up I will be amazed. If you'the rather go direct than browse search for Fortune or Rivetta or Cambria or Kendall. I saw all these girls on my last visit and they are spectacular looking. I think you will be surprised and impressed.
A Czech babe from my freelance photojournalist days in Prague, circa 1997. Damn, I can't remember her name. But I'll never forget that ass!Sorry, photos did not post. Here they are!
DreamCarnarvon
05-25-19, 02:00
If you google 'gerardor cpf' you will find quite a few sites to give you a cpf. I used it appr 7 years ago to buy plane tickets. I guess it still works.Wow, I didn't know such sites existed. Good to know, thanks. I tried uber again today but still no go so I downloaded '"99" and entered my credit card info. I did a test run and the order went through so hopefully it will continue to work.
A Czech babe from my freelance photojournalist days in Prague, circa 1997. Damn, I can't remember her name. But I'll never forget that ass!Were you intending to post a photo? Just interested.
I don't have any recent experience in Prague, but it appears from reports that it was more fun for mongerers in the 90's.
DreamCarnarvon
05-25-19, 02:14
Brazilian women are sexier and better looking than Romanian women (more diverse), they also offer better service. You can find any kind of woman in Brazil, there is taste for everyone.I don't know about the quality of native Romanian women so I cannot comment on if they are better looking in general. But for my personal taste, I prefer girls with darker complexions, mulatas, and negras with jet black hair. Here in Brasil, I have to agree with you that there is a wide range of girls to choose from and that's why I keep coming back to Brasil. If I want a break from my mulatas, I know I will have no problem finding light skinned girls.
FRobertson
05-25-19, 13:21
How did you get uber to work?? I never had to use uber until yesterday. It asked for CPF. I used one I got from a menina but then it asked for date of birth, which obviously I did not have. So I tried the alternative and added my credit card info, which was an US credit card BTW. Although I was able to select my destination and my payment method (cash), I never could get the order to go through. The app always gave me a message saying "something went wrong".Did you use Uber stateside? I registered in the USA and used it there, subsequently it worked for me around the world without any problems, except for the quirky places like Argentina. (Mexico, Brazil, Amsterdam just to name a few places).
If you try to register for your first account in Brazil, that could be problematic.
If you have a proxy account with USA access, try registering online through that, and then log on to the app. Otherwise, ask for a friend's account stateside and then pay him back.
FRobertson
05-25-19, 13:25
I'm very fussy about finding pretty girls. I always find them all over Southern Brazil. And 80% of the time, they aren't satisfied unless they are satisfying me. The other 20% (roughly) do a decent job with the rare bad attitude in between.
I can't get into the Ro-girl look in general. I prefer Czech girls as they have softer features and more Germanic mixed-in. I believe Prague has become hit or miss for finding Czech girls who are hot and offer good service. Of course, a lot of Euros will find you anything you want.When I was in Europe and was frequenting partytreffs, RO girls were like cancer to them. Could be very pretty but are very much focused on high volume, minimum effort interactions. Fake moaning in an effort to get me to "pop" ASAP and move on to the next victim. No GFE at all. Once a partytreff had a critical mass of RO girls, it wouldn't be worth coming back to. And I don't want to "pop", I want to have an experience of being with a woman.
JohnJones22
05-25-19, 23:15
Scandallo versus all the other options has been discussed extensively. I don't consider the minimum consumption as part of the price for a girl. Minimum consumption is a common concept in popular Brazilian clubs and bars. So really, it is what it is and it's not unusual.
Having said that, Scandallo is an expensive option for the SP scene when you factor in the girl's rate plus the room. I've been with top escorts that cost less than a Scandallo hook-up. These escort girls would be among the hottest in Scandallo and often times they are. Again, I'm not sure this can be debated.
When I return to Sao Paulo, I'll still probably return to Scandallo.Mind me asking where you found these top escorts that cost less than a Scandallo hook-up?
DreamCarnarvon
05-25-19, 23:28
Did you use Uber stateside? I registered in the USA and used it there, subsequently it worked for me around the world without any problems, except for the quirky places like Argentina. (Mexico, Brazil, Amsterdam just to name a few places).
If you try to register for your first account in Brazil, that could be problematic.
If you have a proxy account with USA access, try registering online through that, and then log on to the app. Otherwise, ask for a friend's account stateside and then pay him back.Yes I do use Uber back at home but that phone I use in the states is not unlocked so I cannot use it here in Brazil. Currently I'm using a different phone that is unlocked with a Brazilian chip. The problem will be, if I use my USA number to log in, this phone will not be able to receive the text message with the security code since it has a Brazilian phone number. I downloaded the 99 app yesterday and I did a test run and it worked. I haven't used it since so hopefully it will continue to work. Thanks for your help.
Downloaded Uber app while in Brazil. Used foreign CC and foreign telephone number. Input other number for cfp as I don't have it. Worked well. Billing in reais, converted into foreign currency. Uber won't work on routes connecting Brazil with neighboring countries.
Steve 9696
05-26-19, 04:15
When I was in Europe and was frequenting partytreffs, RO girls were like cancer to them. Could be very pretty but are very much focused on high volume, minimum effort interactions. Fake moaning in an effort to get me to "pop" ASAP and move on to the next victim. No GFE at all. Once a partytreff had a critical mass of RO girls, it wouldn't be worth coming back to. And I don't want to "pop", I want to have an experience of being with a woman.To be clear, no one brings the true GFE like a Brasileira. But I think Ro-girls get whitewashed with a bad name due to the cliques that form in the FKKs for example. This is counter to my experience with the agency girls in London. I get good GFE (by most world standards) from most hand-picked Ro-girls in London and being in their bed is very intimate and part of the GFE IMO. I think on balance Brasileiras have a higher percent GFE, but not all Ro-girls are so mercenary. Course given a choice I will fly to Brasil. But got to defend my Ro-girls -- they've been mighty good to me.
DiverOyster
05-26-19, 05:23
To be clear, no one brings the true GFE like a Brasileira. But I think Ro-girls get whitewashed with a bad name due to the cliques that form in the FKKs for example. This is counter to my experience with the agency girls in London. I get good GFE (by most world standards) from most hand-picked Ro-girls in London and being in their bed is very intimate and part of the GFE IMO. I think on balance Brasileiras have a higher percent GFE, but not all Ro-girls are so mercenary. Course given a choice I will fly to Brasil. But got to defend my Ro-girls -- they've been mighty good to me.I love the svelte, slender, and long-legged RO gazelles at Globe. Where in SP can I find Brazilian girls with this body type?
FRobertson
05-26-19, 08:03
I love the svelte, slender, and long-legged RO gazelles at Globe. Where in SP can I find Brazilian girls with this body type?Search for Melânia Grassih on photoacompanhantes. Tall, slender, long legged. Decent attitude and GFE. Meets at a hotel in moema.
As I always pointed up, be early at Tangara, especially on Sundays. If you go after 4 pm maybe you will find 30 dudes waiting for rooms.
I was there today, arrived at 1:30 pm, there were about 25 girls in the house and very few customers. Went with Sophie, a escola de samba type mulata, fantastic service, DFK, BBBJ, and CIM.
ABG.I agree. Unfortunately, in my case I was limited in arrival time, since that was the day I arrived, and I needed to get a SIM card for my phone. For me, Sunday was an 'extra' day, and unfortunately things didn't pan out for me at Tangara.
The Moema clinicas are not far. The Sao Paulo fears are a bit overdone if you follow sensible, secure precautions. I would consider just taking an Uber or even better AltoBomGosto will take you hunting clinica girls in his car for a very reasonable rate. He might even be able to find you a clinica girls who doesn't object to photos.
Escorts are of course an option and the last several months have recommendations of well-reviewed girls. If a girl has a twitter and / or a website profile with lots of facial photos, I'm guessing you can negotiate a nominal extra fee for photos.I agree. I walked all around Moema on multiple days, and I always felt safe. I wouldn't walk around by yourself at night, but during the day I don't sense any problem if you use common sense. At night, I would probably use Uber to get around.
Salaam Pete. Abbobora is the only clinica I know that won't let you really chat to the girl to make sure she is the agreeing type. Some will blame the pushy reception lady. Anyway it's a deal-breaker for me. I could sympathize if they always had good-service girls and wanted to protect them, but I've been disappointed there before -- reminding me how important it is to check that the girl is in the right mood.I agree. As you'll see in my later post, I did eventually do a TD there, and the service was lackluster. There just isn't a chance to build or test the chemistry, which is problematic for me.
Awesome reports, thank you.
There are random gems that could be found at any clinic. The best times to see all the girls is early afternoon, when they are already working but before the crowds start arriving. Probably 1 pm or so is optimal for the first visit.
Also I saw in your earlier report that you were put off by the girls in Tangara who seemed cold or annoyed. I've seen that before, girls who seem cold, annoyed, or disinterested. But their attitude magically changed when we got to the room. So it may be productive to give them a chance if you find the face to your liking. Also, Tangara has a Whatsapp group they can sign you up for and they send out girls lists and photos throughout the day.Thanks. Having read earlier reports, this was my strategy -- to hit the Moema clinicas in the early afternoon, to make the rounds and see if I could find a gem. As you will see from my aggregated reports, I didn't have much luck. I would say the same for Tangara, although I think the setup of that place is more conducive to success, if you can find a girl to your liking.
This has been mostly my experience with the clinicas to, although I did not visit Abbobora, but hope to next time. The clinica prices might be lower, but the looks I want just aren't there in enough numbers. Disappointing and not worth it to me to be running around all over the place trying to find a looker in a clinica who will do what I want. The boites and the "night league" is the place for me!I agree completely. As you'll see from my later reports, for me the boites were the place where I was able to find the girls I like, albeit at much higher prices.
How did you get uber to work?? I never had to use uber until yesterday. It asked for CPF. I used one I got from a menina but then it asked for date of birth, which obviously I did not have. So I tried the alternative and added my credit card info, which was an US credit card BTW. Although I was able to select my destination and my payment method (cash), I never could get the order to go through. The app always gave me a message saying "something went wrong".I had downloaded and used the Uber app in my home country prior to my trip, so that might have had something to do with it. I had issues using a credit card in the Uber app, but I was able to use cash without any problem.
Slept in again on Wednesday morning and had brunch at the hotel while deciding what I should do with my day. Despite my less-than-good experiences with clinicas, in light of prior discussions on this forum I decided to give them one last shot, but thought I'd try later in the afternoon, in case my earlier experiences were more of a time-of-day problem. So, I made another loop of the clinicas, hitting the 'most likely' clinicas: Red, Miruna, and Abbobora.
I left my hotel at around 2 pm and walked 20 minutes to get to Red Massagem. Same friendly lady at the front desk. There were about 10 girls there, but if anything the talent was even worse, now in the 2-5/10 range in looks. There were a couple of much older, not-so-fit women there wearing skimpy clothing, which is a sight I will never be able to unseen. Got out of there as quickly as possible.
Another 10-15 minute walk to Clinica Miruna. Again, same nice lady at reception. Maybe 7 girls in the 4-6/10 range, so maybe slightly better than before, but no one I would seriously consider. So again, that a wash.
Final stop was Abbobora Massagem, which is just 1-2 minutes away from Miruna. Found the side entrance. Again, same lady at the front desk, who wasn't so nice the last time but was nicer this time. The talent here, again, was clearly better than in the other places, with more girls (maybe 10 total) in the 5-8/10 range in looks. I was debating whether I should pull the trigger here or save my money and, more importantly, my energy for likely better things tonight. But I figured this would be my best chance to try out the clinica action, so I chose the best looking girl named Rebecca with fair skin, long wavy black hair, and a nice face.
Took her to the room for R260 for 60 minutes. In the room, she was a bit standoffish, not unpleasant but not really affectionate. Limited kissing, but did a good BBBJ and had sex in multiple positions. I finished before the 60 minute mark, but she didn't seem keen on hanging out, so I just took a shower and left. So this was my one session in a clinica, and it was not so good.
So, through my experiences the past few days, I learned that the clinicas are not for me. They are certainly cheaper, and I can see how they can be great value if you visit often and know the girls, so you know where and when to go to find what you want. However, I am just showing up at these places when they are supposed to be busiest and hoping that I get lucky. Which I have not been -- the girl quality has just not been there for me, and even when the girls' appearance met my standard, the service did not. There are obviously lots of reasons why this may be, and there are also some things one could theoretically do to mitigate these factors; however, I am not going to wax philosophical here, I just make observations and present my opinions. For me this is about quality, not quantity. So I decided that for the remainder of my trip I would focus my efforts on the nightclubs.
For Wednesday night, I was debating whether to go back to Scandallo or to try Bomboa, Cafe Photo, or a place like Chanes or Bahamas. I decided to try Bomboa, because it sounded like Scandallo with more Brazilian flair and slightly less expensive girls, and I still had time to go back to Scandallo another night.
Bomboa has reduced entry (R150) before 5 pm but is R250 after that (both all consumable); they add an extra 10% for tips, so really it's R165 and R275. That is a longer interval between the reduced entry time and the peak time (presumably 11 pm-2 am) than Scandallo. And since I wanted to see this place at its peak but didn't want to spend 9 hours there, I decided to suck up the cost of the late entry. So, I took an Uber there at around 8:30 pm. As it turns out, I saw a lot of very pretty girls leaving when I arrived and shortly thereafter, maybe even better than the girls who came later. I don't know if that's a coincidence, but there might be something to that, and this club might be worth checking out earlier in the day. Knowing what I know now, I probably would have come earlier (in the late afternoon) for the reduced entry.
I walked in, and they found an English-speaking waiter to give me an introduction to the place. That guy turned out to be very helpful -- apart from familiarizing me with the club, he also gave me pointers and helped me communicate with the girls. As has been noted in earlier reports, this place is really nice, but in a different way from Scandallo; it's the wood, marble, and red velvet to Scandallo's steel and glass. But it is starting to show some wear around the edges. You might compare these places to old Vegas and new Vegas in terms of feel. Bomboa, though, is much, much smaller, with pretty much all of the mixing taking place in a single room. It has a great live band (in my opinion better than the one at Scandallo). Girls occasionally dance at the stripper poles (maybe a couple of girls per hour), although some just stripped down to their underwear. Food prices and quality are similar to Scandallo, and my grilled salmon was tasty and was enough food for me. Also, Bomboa uses an antiquated system to track food / drink; you are given a numbered wristband when you arrive, and the waiters literally write your orders on a paper slip, which you sign, and these slips are tabulated using something resembling a calculator from the 1970's.
In terms of girls, there were many fewer than Scandallo (maybe 80-100, so less than half the number). Overall, girls were maybe a half-notch below Scandallo, with most in the 6-8/10 range and maybe 2-3 girls I would put in the 9-10/10 range. There were only a few I would rate at 5/10 or below. There were proportionally more black girls than at Scandallo (maybe 5-6). I didn't see any Asian girls or redheads. Most of the girls I spoke with quoted prices of R400-R600 per hour with different services included. Because there are so many fewer girls than at Scandallo, and most are in one room, it was much easier to get a handle on the place.
I had my eye on a few candidates, but in the end I took the recommendation of the waiter and chose a girl named Bruna, who was very pretty with long wavy blond hair. We agreed on R400 for one hour of 'standard' service including BBBJ but no anal. Unlike in Scandallo, the 'onsite' rooms are not actually part of the club, they are in the hotel next door. So in order to take a girl to the room, you have to checkout of the club, settle up, and then you can leave. If you want to return, they give you a receipt, which you can then present for re-entry, including the amount of consumables you have remaining on your 'tab. ' The hotel next door costs R180 for the hour; it's okay but is not as nice as Scandallo. In the room, Bruna did what she promised, although she was maybe more PSE vs GFE than I would have liked. She did let me take some photos at the end and was really nice about that. I paid her in cash in the room, and we headed back to the club.
I stayed for a little while longer to check out the new girls coming in and to use more of my consumables. At around 2 am, I went to check out. I consumed less than the R250 entry, so I didn't owe any extra for consumables. In total, I spent R275 entry / consumables + R180 room + R400 girl = R855. Then I took Uber back to my hotel.
Overall, I liked Bomboa. If I had to choose between Bomboa and Scandallo, I would choose Scandallo just because it's such an amazing experience with the sheer number of pretty girls. But, assuming that what I saw was representative, I would guess that most men should also be able to find something of interest in Bomboa. The atmosphere is more relaxed, the girls circulate more, and it's just an easier place to keep track of than Scandallo. If the girls I saw leaving early were indicative of the day shift, then this could be a good play for the afternoon into the evening, with the lower entry fee and relatively lower girl prices (compared to Scandallo) for those who, like me, have difficulty finding anything of interest in the clinicas.
MongerForSex
05-26-19, 15:13
I don't know about the quality of native Romanian women so I cannot comment on if they are better looking in general. But for my personal taste, I prefer girls with darker complexions, mulatas, and negras with jet black hair. Here in Brasil, I have to agree with you that there is a wide range of girls to choose from and that's why I keep coming back to Brasil. If I want a break from my mulatas, I know I will have no problem finding light skinned girls.I prefer Middle Eastern and Mediterranean looking women. I prefer Brazilians of Italian, Syrian and Libaneses descent, maybe because I am Brazilian of Middle Eastern origin. I am not really into Black, Dark skinned, Native or White European looking women but I can fuck them if they are hot. Bcause I fuck all kinds of girls.
MongerForSex
05-26-19, 15:17
I have yet to find any Asian women here.There are Brazilian women of Asian decent, Especially in Sao Paulo and my state (Parana). You can find them in some clubs. But most of them are not working girls in Brazil.
There are Brazilian women of Asian decent, Especially in Sao Paulo and my state (Parana). You can find them in some clubs. But most of them are not working girls in Brazil.This is Suzuki (not her real name), she's from Manaus but works primarily in Sao Paulo.
I love the svelte, slender, and long-legged RO gazelles at Globe. Where in SP can I find Brazilian girls with this body type?In a word: Scandallo. I have been to Globe many times, and the lineup at Scandallo is comparable to Globe, except that on peaks days there are maybe 5-10 x the number of girls. In terms of sheer looks, Scandallo is pretty amazing, and you will be sure to find multiple targets on a busy night.
There are Brazilian women of Asian decent, Especially in Sao Paulo and my state (Parana). You can find them in some clubs. But most of them are not working girls in Brazil.I met some half-Japanese women in the clnicas and boites, including one very pretty one (named Yumi, if I recall correctly) at Scandallo.
Azn Safado
05-26-19, 21:20
Final stop was Abbobora Massagem, which is just 1-2 minutes away from Miruna. Found the side entrance. Again, same lady at the front desk, who wasn't so nice the last time but was nicer this time. The talent here, again, was clearly better than in the other places, with more girls (maybe 10 total) in the 5-8/10 range in looks. I was debating whether I should pull the trigger here or save my money and, more importantly, my energy for likely better things tonight. But I figured this would be my best chance to try out the clinica action, so I chose the best looking girl named Rebecca with fair skin, long wavy black hair, and a nice face.
Took her to the room for R260 for 60 minutes. In the room, she was a bit standoffish, not unpleasant but not really affectionate. Limited kissing, but did a good BBBJ and had sex in multiple positions. I finished before the 60 minute mark, but she didn't seem keen on hanging out, so I just took a shower and left. So this was my one session in a clinica, and it was not so good.
I've stopped by Abbobora a couple of times per week the last 3 weeks. Same old lineup. Finally, this past Thursday I spoke with the receptionist and asked what was the deal and she said you won't see anybody new unless you come on a Saturday. I decided to try it out yesterday on a Saturday. The lineup was a lot different from what I've been seeing lately. I chose a morena named Camila who was excellent GFE. She was in her late 20's but looked young. I had a session here a few weeks ago and the girl that I had chosen was a total dud. Gave CBJ and hardly even kissed. But this morena I chose was a winner. DFK, BBBJ, 69, etc. She only works occasionally on Saturdays. She ended up coming over to my apartment today on a Sunday. She charged R$400 for 2 hours, which seems reasonable.
DiverOyster
05-26-19, 22:41
In a word: Scandallo. I have been to Globe many times, and the lineup at Scandallo is comparable to Globe, except that on peaks days there are maybe 5-10 x the number of girls. In terms of sheer looks, Scandallo is pretty amazing, and you will be sure to find multiple targets on a busy night.Thank you for your tip KPete. I will check out Scandallo. I guess at Globe the girls are naked on FKK days so what you see is what you get. At Scandallo, the girls wear dresses so you may take some chances since you don't get to see their naked bodies before going to rooms.
DiverOyster
05-26-19, 22:44
Search for Melnia Grassih on photoacompanhantes. Tall, slender, long legged. Decent attitude and GFE. Meets at a hotel in moema.Thank you the tip FRobertson. I will try her out.
DiverOyster
05-26-19, 23:09
So for anyone who was paying attention to my Thifany saga, it's back on!
The short version is this: Boy meets girl in club. (Well actually old man and girl but who's counting) Boy and girl hit it off passionately. Spend 5 hours together having sex twice once together and once with her friend in an epic dupla. I invite her to Join me on a trip to London (crazy!) She accepts (extra crazy!) and we have the time of our lives. Dancing till 3 AM every night and of course epic sex. Absolutely the best time you could possibly have (the entire epic is available to senior members by PMing me.).
Since that time it's been on again off again with the usual money troubles and phone being "lost" etc. So radio silence for 4 months when she pops up on my Instagram feed as active again. Well we are kinda picking up where we left off and I have to say it's exciting. I know for sure she is not LTR material so no slippery slope there. But she is intoxicating to be with so I have to watch myself. Will likely see her in July. I'll keep you posted!Steve, "intoxicating" is the appropriate term to describe the feeling that from time to time I also develop toward some Romanian FKK girls I have been with. I even fantasize about proposing to them, LOL! From time to time, it's wonderful to meet some beautiful and charming girls who are able to warm your heart. I chat with them via WhatsApp to keep me excited until my next trans-Atltantic trip to FKK wonderland.
On Thursday, I decided to explore Sao Paulo a bit as a tourist, so after breakfast I went walking around the city center, Av Paulista, and Villa Madalena areas of the city and visited a couple of museums. After an afternoon nap, I was ready to return to Scandallo to finish off my trip.
Like last time, I took Uber to Scandallo aiming to get there just before 7 pm. But even though I left a little earlier than last time, I arrived a few minutes later than planned (literally at 7:02), and they refused to give me the discount, so I had to pay the full R250 entry (still R150 consumable). Major bummer. Learn from my mistake: you have to respect the rush hour traffic, so leave yourself even more extra time than you think you'l need. Like last time, the club was relative quiet at that hour, so I had some dinner (a good Caesar salad) and watch some of the soccer game. I walked around a bit and saw some familiar faces, saying Hello, to some girls I had met the other night, and scoping out some new prospects. A lot of girls were wearing the same outfits as last time, which I suppose is good for helping to remember them but is maybe not so good for hygiene reasons.
Anyway, by the time the lounge area opened at around 10 pm, the number of girls and men increased significantly, and things definitely picked up. Having been here before, I had a pretty good sense of what would be on offer, and I calibrated my expectations accordingly. After walking around a bit, I saw the prettiest (or one of the prettiest) girls I had seen in that club, a definite 10/10 to me, slim with long straight blond hair named Gabi. I approached her, and we spoke a bit, before I started asking her about her 'program' in the room. She initially quoted me a price of R800, which I countered with R600. She countered back, but I held firm, and she looked annoyed, so I thanked her for her time and walked away. The thing about Scandallo is that there is always another pretty girl around the corner, so you'll never want for choice. I left the lounge and went to the other area, where I saw another familiar face and chatted with her for a bit. When I came back to the lounge, Gabi nearly pounced on me, saying she had been looking for me (she probably had been scanning the lounge, since I wasn't there) and let's go to the room for R600. So, we went to the room. As you might expect for such a hot girl, the service was good but not fantastic, but she was so hot that I really enjoyed myself, and I certainly have some great memories.
We came back downstairs, and I got another drink and looked around the lounge area. More new pretty faces, including some 10/10's I would have been interested in taking to the room, if I had more time and energy. But since I needed to leave the next day, I decided to head out relatively early at around midnight. Total cost was R250 entry / consumables + R200 room + R600 girl = R1050. I took Uber back to my hotel.
Steve 9696
05-27-19, 03:33
Steve, "intoxicating" is the appropriate term to describe the feeling that from time to time I also develop toward some Romanian FKK girls I have been with. I even fantasize about proposing to them, LOL! From time to time, it's wonderful to meet some beautiful and charming girls who are able to warm your heart. I chat with them via WhatsApp to keep me excited until my next trans-Atltantic trip to FKK wonderland.Yes some girls just have that "it" thing about them and I get like a little puppy. I believe you read the whole Thifany saga, so you can see why I am smitten.
Speaking of Thifany — anyone know Brazilian culture? Is it common to get engaged and married very quickly? Recall 2 weeks ago Thifany got engaged (and then told me she still wants to see me!) but now as I look at her Instagram it sure looks like they are getting married today or tomorrow. I am super happy for her. Is this common in Brazil to marry so quickly after popping the question?
On the WhatsApp thing I too really enjoy "staying in touch". I pen palled with Rika for about a year before she ghosted me. Thifany and I were almost daily for a very long time. And I stay in touch with one of my London's Ro-girls. It's just nice to see how they are doing and have a little fun / flirty long distance girlfriend.
HarvestBoi
05-27-19, 04:21
I've been to both and I'd give Scandallo the edge in fitness and hotness but I like brazileras more than Ro girls. Not by much tho LOL. And in terms of amenities it's no contest.
Thank you for your tip KPete. I will check out Scandallo. I guess at Globe the girls are naked on FKK days so what you see is what you get. At Scandallo, the girls wear dresses so you may take some chances since you don't get to see their naked bodies before going to rooms..
I have yet to find any Asian women here.Last year I sessioned a Japanese named Harooni in Tangara.
AltoBomGosto
05-27-19, 09:32
Last year I sessioned a Japanese named Harooni in Tangara.There is a nice Nipo Brazilian girl, que Ayume, DFK, GFE, BBBJ, CWG, AND CIM.
FRobertson
05-27-19, 15:12
Last year I sessioned a Japanese named Harooni in Tangara.LOL me too. Harumi. She was born in Brazil though. They have a new "Japanese" girl at Tangara but she's old and not cute at all.
Since people have recently discussed Uber, has anyone used EasyTaxi recently? I haven't used ET in a couple years. EasyTaxi had a foothold in Latin America. Basically, they copied Uber's business model, but it was a bit cheaper and in some Latam cities I could find taxis outside tourist areas easier. Perhaps, Uber has expanded their footprint in those Latam cities.
MongerForSex
05-27-19, 18:09
I met some half-Japanese women in the clnicas and boites, including one very pretty one (named Yumi, if I recall correctly) at Scandallo.You can find find few japanese working girls in Scandalo or in other clubs. You can also find in some clinicas.
This is Suzuki (not her real name), she's from Manaus but works primarily in Sao Paulo.She looks good but too big for people loving Asian women.
She looks good but too big for people loving Asian women.It's what happens when you grow up on sushi, rice, beans, & feijoada. Mixed with Africa, European, & Indigenous DNA. Plus a Smart-Fi Plano Black membership!
UniversalX
05-28-19, 05:31
I have yet to find any Asian women here.I don't know if your working online prospects, but I'm wondering if anyone has been with or reported on https://twitter.com/ahjaponesa I'm looking to see if there are other Brazilian Asians on Twitter and Instagram.
MongerForSex
05-28-19, 07:24
It's what happens when you grow up on sushi, rice, beans, & feijoada. Mixed with Africa, European, & Indigenous DNA. Plus a Smart-Fi Plano Black membership!There are also many Asian and Japanese Brazilians in Brazil looking as Asian as Japanese people in Japan. I am Jewish Brazilian of Syrian descent and have no mix. Many Brazilians are not mixed that's why Brazil is a diverse country because you can see people of any shape and any race.
Mind me asking where you found these top escorts that cost less than a Scandallo hook-up?It isn't hard. Twitter. The reputable websites. A little research is all. One just posted about a one hour hook-up at Scandallo for BRL1050 (plus entry drinks, dinner). BRL 1050 will get you a top companion for several hours at your hotel or her flat.
Jib Reach.
I have yet to find any Asian women here.Sao Paulo has the largest concentration of people of Japanese descent outside of Japan. If you can't find them, you're not looking very hard.
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I love the svelte, slender, and long-legged RO gazelles at Globe. Where in SP can I find Brazilian girls with this body type?FRobertson posted a great example. The svelte, slender and long-legged Brasileiras are out there. I'd say most of them are the tall mixed-race and black girls and that's fine with me. There are definitely some Euro-type girls that fit this description. I would start at Scandallo, Bomboa and start reading escort reviews and searching Twitter.
Here are a few Euro-type girls that are recommended:
https://twitter.com/RebecaGoya
https://twitter.com/Sara__Muller
https://twitter.com/PatyFantinigp
MongerForSex
05-28-19, 16:03
I love the svelte, slender, and long-legged RO gazelles at Globe. Where in SP can I find Brazilian girls with this body type?You can find them in the south of Brazil. There are many euro type girls who are svelte. In my state (parana), many other states in the south. You can also find many svelte euro type girls in Sao Paulo. As Wyatt stated, you can go to scandallo and bamboa. There are many svelte euro type girls on the streets of Sao Paulo but not every girl is working girl. The last time I went to Scandallo, I met a euro type girl with brown hair and blue eyes, she is tall 6 feet tall, svelte, she is a model, she just worked as a working girl to make some money, making money as a model is not easy, working as a model doesn't make money like Gigele Bundchen and some other known models. Most of the time they don't become famous. P.S. I am not into blond girls, it's not hard to find euro type girls with natural blond hair.
Some members spoke well of him, Maybe he can help you find svelte euro type girls. Everything is possible in Brazil when there is money. Believe me, there are many euro type girls in Brazil as beautiful as the euro type girls in Europe.
DiverOyster
05-28-19, 17:38
You can find them in the south of Brazil. There are many euro type girls who are svelte. In my state (parana), many other states in the south. You can also find many svelte euro type girls in Sao Paulo. As Wyatt stated, you can go to scandallo and bamboa. There are many svelte euro type girls on the streets of Sao Paulo but not every girl is working girl. The last time I went to Scandallo, I met a euro type girl with brown hair and blue eyes, she is tall 6 feet tall, svelte, she is a model, she just worked as a working girl to make some money, making money as a model is not easy, working as a model doesn't make money like Gigele Bundchen and some other known models. Most of the time they don't become famous. P.S. I am not into blond girls, it's not hard to find euro type girls with natural blond hair.
Some members spoke well of him, Maybe he can help you find svelte euro type girls. Everything is possible in Brazil when there is money. Believe me, there are many euro type girls in Brazil as beautiful as the euro type girls in Europe.Thank you for your kind help. I will start out at Scandallo and Bamboa. Scandallo has hundreds of girls to choose from so there will be someone for me. In comparison, Globe only has 52 girls maximum on the weekends.
All the best.
DiverOyster
05-28-19, 17:44
FRobertson posted a great example. The svelte, slender and long-legged Brasileiras are out there. I'd say most of them are the tall mixed-race and black girls and that's fine with me. There are definitely some Euro-type girls that fit this description. I would start at Scandallo, Bomboa and start reading escort reviews and searching Twitter.
Here are a few Euro-type girls that are recommended:
https://twitter.com/RebecaGoya
https://twitter.com/Sara__Muller
https://twitter.com/PatyFantinigpThank you for your kind help. I have been reading up on ISG's SP section. Scandallo and Bamboa sound like a bargain in comparison to Globe's pricing of 280 CHF per hour. For me, the flight to SP is the same as to Zurich. I will check out Scandallo and Bamboa.
All the best.
FRobertson
05-29-19, 10:55
Sao Paulo has the largest concentration of people of Japanese descent outside of Japan. If you can't find them, you're not looking very hard.
Jib Reach.Mate,
I mean finding them within the framework of this hobby. Clinicas, escorts, etc. Of course they are out there in the street and in the shops. But if I could be successful picking up girls in civilian environments, I wouldn't be mongering like there's no tomorrow.
If I am overlooking some Japanese escort hangouts, links would be appreciated.
MongerForSex
05-29-19, 15:03
Thank you for your kind help. I will start out at Scandallo and Bamboa. Scandallo has hundreds of girls to choose from so there will be someone for me. In comparison, Globe only has 52 girls maximum on the weekends.
All the best.To have an idea about Brazil. If you are into Euro type women and don't have trouble spending money. I just took few random instagram pages. They are not working girls but you can find working girls like them if you are not on a budget when you travel to Brazil. Svelte Euro type girls are not missing in Brazil. Brazil is the third country with the most whites after the USA and Russia (95 000 000) and the country with the most Black people after Africa (60 000 000). Pardos and Europeans are the biggest populutation in Brazil. Pardos are mixed people (white. Native, white. Asian or black. Native etc).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_Brazil
https://www.instagram.com/sabrina_geib/
https://www.instagram.com/karinafacci/
https://www.instagram.com/isabellasantoni/
https://www.instagram.com/luizabsobral/
https://www.instagram.com/melradunz/
https://www.instagram.com/leandgui/
Svelte Euro type girls are not missing in Brazil. Brazil is the third country with the most whites after the USA and Russia (95 000 000) and the country with the most Black people after Africa (60 000 000). Pardos and Europeans are the biggest populutation in Brazil. Pardos are mixed people (white. Native, white. Asian or black. Native etc).I just had to "school" somebody about this very same thing the other day. Some people are so ignorant about Brazil. It is one of the largest and most diverse nations on the face of the earth! I used to just sit here and shake my head when reading posts from somebody like a PussyLiccker who seemed to hesitate for years about going to Brazil over concerns about whether or not the girls would be "white enough" there LOL! He even asked for mongers to post pictures of what a "typical" Brazilian girl looks like, which I quickly pointed out to be a ridiculous request. You can find whatever you would like in Brazil, and most of it in plentiful supply. Do not hesitate. Fornicate!
Somebody was asking about Asian women. Many are appealing because you can find women with the delicate Asian beauty combined with Latin curves.
https://twitter.com/yamadaMah
https://twitter.com/angelindakim
(A real doll if you can schedule her when she's in SP as opposed to her base Belo Horizonte).
https://twitter.com/isanakamuragp
(fluent english).
https://twitter.com/SabrinaYamazak1
I just had to "school" somebody about this very same thing the other day. Some people are so ignorant about Brazil. It is one of the largest and most diverse nations on the face of the earth! I used to just sit here and shake my head when reading posts from somebody like a PussyLiccker who seemed to hesitate for years about going to Brazil over concerns about whether or not the girls would be "white enough" there LOL! He even asked for mongers to post pictures of what a "typical" Brazilian girl looks like, which I quickly pointed out to be a ridiculous request. You can find whatever you would like in Brazil, and most of it in plentiful supply. Do not hesitate. Fornicate!I don't want to split hairs here but many Caucasians / whites in Brazil are mixed; they look Caucasian because they have a small mixture of other races such as black, native Indian, etc. , in some cases so small such that from a photo or even in person you cannot observe a distinction. Of the 90 plus million Brazilians who are classified as Caucasians the majority most likely have some measure of admixture. I have had sexual relations with many whites from Brazil and Europe and can confirm that there is a difference, e.g. in the muscle and bone structure, etc. Race is a very complicated issue for even in Europe there are variations. Nevertheless, I would admit that the only people who should be concerned about the difference between sexual relations with Caucasians in Brazil and those in Europe should be Nazis.
MongerForSex
05-30-19, 10:49
I don't want to split hairs here but many Caucasians / whites in Brazil are mixed; they look Caucasian because they have a small mixture of other races such as black, native Indian, etc. , in some cases so small such that from a photo or even in person you cannot observe a distinction. Of the 90 plus million Brazilians who are classified as Caucasians the majority most likely have some measure of admixture. I have had sexual relations with many whites from Brazil and Europe and can confirm that there is a difference, e.g. in the muscle and bone structure, etc. Race is a very complicated issue for even in Europe there are variations. Nevertheless, I would admit that the only people who should be concerned about the difference between sexual relations with Caucasians in Brazil and those in Europe should be Nazis.The Cane went to Europe many times too so you mean he is wrong and has no experience with Europeans in Europe. Many whites are not mixed in Beazil. I can say you don't really know Brazil. Black American are black, many have some mixed features, even whites in the usa have some mixed features like every white in the World, there is no pure nation in the world. Spanish people were colonized by arab people for hundreds of years. Russians were occupied by mongols for hundreds of years. Scandinavian people were envaded by Romans, greeks and some of their European neighbors were envaded by persians and east europeans were envaded by ancient Greece and turco mongols etc. There is no pure race in this world. Many Brazilians look as European as people from Europe. I agree witn you on one thing, many brazilians are mixed (pardos). There are white or darkskinned pardos. You don't know, you don't live in Brazil, Brazil is not only clinicas (tangara etc). I travelled to Asia, I know everything about Asia because I ate some noodle looool. Brazil is a big country, there are many euro type people walking on the streets of Sao Paulo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardo_Brazilians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Brazilians
The Cane went to Europe many times too so you mean he is wrong and has no experience with Europeans in Europe. Many whites are not mixed in Beazil. I can say you don't really know Brazil. Black American are black, many have some mixed features, even whites in the usa have some mixed features like every white in the World, there is no pure nation in the world. Spanish people were colonized by arab people for hundreds of years. Russians were occupied by mongols for hundreds of years. Scandinavian people were envaded by Romans, greeks and some of their European neighbors were envaded by persians and east europeans were envaded by ancient Greece and turco mongols etc. There is no pure race in this world. Many Brazilians look as European as people from Europe. I agree witn you on one thing, many brazilians are mixed (pardos). There are white or darkskinned pardos. You don't know, you don't live in Brazil, Brazil is not only clinicas (tangara etc). I travelled to Asia, I know everything about Asia because I ate some noodle looool. Brazil is a big country, there are many euro type people walking on the streets of Sao Paulo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardo_Brazilians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_BraziliansScandinavia was never invaded by the Romans nor the Greeks.
FRobertson
05-30-19, 15:36
Somebody was asking about Asian women. Many are appealing because you can find women with the delicate Asian beauty combined with Latin curves.
https://twitter.com/yamadaMah
https://twitter.com/angelindakim
(A real doll if you can schedule her when she's in SP as opposed to her base Belo Horizonte).
https://twitter.com/isanakamuragp
(fluent english).
https://twitter.com/SabrinaYamazak1Very cool, thank you!
I have had sexual relations with many whites from Brazil and Europe and can confirm that there is a difference, e.g. in the muscle and bone structure, etc.[Deleted by Admin]
I have been with so many brancas in Brazil myself that I know that some of them, if you didn't know they were from Brazil, they may as well be from some place in Europe or even the United States or Australia or something. Are you saying that whites in the United States have a different "bone and muscle structure" from whites in Europe too LOL? Or is it just the brancas of Brazil? Because they're all immigrants to the "new world" from the same places all over Europe dude!
I remember my very first trip to Brazil, and I enjoyed this branca from Barbarella (yeah, yeah I know). Anyway, I wrote in my field report how she looked just like some blonde chick from Beverly Hills, California! Or, during my last trip how I went with this gorgeous Scandallo tute of German stock who looked every bit as German as a blonde and blue-eyed girl from northern Germany! Absolutely no difference in appearance whatsoever. None! And why would there be? Her family emigrated from Germany to Brazil. Could that act alone have changed their family bone and muscle structure? I don't think so! We have to be careful about making such statements about people. Stuff like that has been a part of the foundation and justification for some terrible things man has perpetrated against fellow man.
Now, I think Sperto is probably right in that maybe there aren't as many brancas in Brazil overall as some posts, including my own, might suggest. My view of it is probably skewed as I've spent all of my time in Rio (yes, plenty of branca GDPs working there as my pics prove) and Sampa (no need for explanation). It's a big country though, and if you went to other parts, you're definitely not going to find as many brancas. That said, if that's what you want, then just go to the right parts of the country. Seek and you shall find! Sometimes in Europe, I get bored with the menu because too many white girls. I want some tans! I want some caramel! And that's one reason why I love Brazil so much. You've got that mix in a place like a Rio, plus negras if you're into that too.
There are tons of attractive brancas in Brazil to have sex with if that's your depraved heart's desire. Haha! And, I assure you that many, many, many of them will share the same "bone and muscle structure" as a hot white girl from Europe. And again, why in the world wouldn't they? Their forefathers came to Brazil from Europe, and there has been no evolution that took place to change their bones and muscles to be distinguishable from those of their ancestors! LOLOLOL! Man!
Scandinavian people were envaded by Romans, greeks and some...Not that it really matters, but as interested in history it hurts me eyes to read some errors, Scandinavia were never invaded by romans or greeks. The only one I can remember that invaded Scandinvia was Russia and Germany. Cheers. I still get you point.
MongerForSex
05-30-19, 20:29
Not that it really matters, but as interested in history it hurts me eyes to read some errors, Scandinavia were never invaded by romans or greeks. The only one I can remember that invaded Scandinvia was Russia and Germany. Cheers. I still get you point.I did not say scandinavians were invaded by greeks but it's true I said scandinavians were invaded by Romans, I was mistaken about that and you still got my point. Thank you for the correction.
Mind me asking where you found these top escorts that cost less than a Scandallo hook-up?Rovnak, who I believe lives or spends some time in Sao Paulo, wrote some reports of distinction on navigating on-line escorts. Reliably finding a good escort takes some patience and effort. Many guys choose to go the boate / nightclub route or clinicas. They are easier. The advantage of escorts / acompanhantes is that you can get a hot girl who meets your physical specifications who will deliver the exact services you desire. Most girls either do or don't do things like anal, CIM / COF, etc. There is typically no upcharge. It's generally cheaper than Scandallo and some other boates. Some guys don't like or can't hang out late at night drinking.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2218488&viewfull=1
Read Rovnak comment #9008 and Steve9696 #9004.
I did not say scandinavians were invaded by greeks but it's true I said scandinavians were invaded by Romans, I was mistaken about that and you still got my point. Thank you for the correction.I know some Romans who invaded some Scandinavians. Is that wrong?
MongerForSex
05-31-19, 07:39
I know some Romans who invaded some Scandinavians. Is that wrong?It's good to know, I know some Assyrians envading Scandinavia unlike me, they were not born in the New World, are not jewish and don't speak Hebrew and Portuguese but I can speak levantine Arabic with them.
I know some Romans who invaded some Scandinavians. Is that wrong?That's factually incorrect.
MongerForSex
05-31-19, 18:03
That's factually incorrect.It was just sarcasm. Lets move on to another topic and talk about Sao Paulo.
...............Now, I think Sperto is probably right in that maybe there aren't as many brancas in Brazil overall as some posts, including my own, might suggest. My view of it is probably skewed as I've spent all of my time in Rio (yes, plenty of branca GDPs working there as my pics prove) and Sampa (no need for explanation). It's a big country though, and if you went to other parts, you're definitely not going to find as many brancas. ............The majority of brancas in Brazil have big bubble butts like those who enter the Miss Bum Bum contest. I dare suggest that if you shake their family tree some black fruit may fall off. Obviously they look 100% Caucasian which is understandable as the admixture is very small. Caucasian European women on the whole have smaller butts and they're much softer. European white women generally have more slender, softer, smoother features than Brazilian brancas. I'm enjoying them at FKKs now as we speak. Next stop - Brazil for rougher sex.
Steve 9696
05-31-19, 22:41
So today Thifany says she has some big problem and cannot see me next month. OK enough already. I totally dig her but the flakiness has pushed me forward. Disappointed? Yes. Relieved in a way? Yes.
So now it's me and the other girls I know (Carolina and Mary. Karina has moved on to married life) and the Boates. I am considering a trifecta — Scandalo, Bomboa, and Casarao in one night. Must do one girl at each venue. Too crazy? Been done? Or can I be the pioneer?
Suggestions on order and plan of attack? I know some times are better than others. Entry fees vary at various hours?
Who wants to help me plan the SP Trifecta?
I am considering a trifecta Scandalo, Bomboa, and Casarao in one night. Must do one girl at each venue. Too crazy? Been done? Or can I be the pioneer?
No.
No.
Yes.
Wait for for your reports, you're my hero.
All reports are valuable to all of us.
Cheers.
Who wants to help me plan the SP Trifecta?Casarao 11 pm-12 am, to avoid lines to get your room.
I would like to join you, but I just changed jobs and I’m afraid, next few months I cannot take enough days off to go to Brazil.
The majority of brancas in Brazil have big bubble butts like those who enter the Miss Bum Bum contest. I dare suggest that if you shake their family tree some black fruit may fall off. Obviously they look 100% Caucasian which is understandable as the admixture is very small. Caucasian European women on the whole have smaller butts and they're much softer. European white women generally have more slender, softer, smoother features than Brazilian brancas. I'm enjoying them at FKKs now as we speak. Next stop - Brazil for rougher sex.Yes, many of them do have plump, soft, round, white bubble butts (have pics of those too). This is one reason why I love Brazil so much. But then again, many, many others of them do not. Your sweeping generalizations simply do not hold water when placed alongside the facts.
By the way guys, I buggered most of these Brazilian girls pictured in their smallish, slender, tender, warm, tight and forbidden anal cavities. Taisha had a toned "muscle butt". Damn I love your country MongerForSex! Perhaps I will seek to buy property and retire there one day. We shall see.
I am considering a trifecta Scandalo, Bomboa, and Casarao in one night. Must do one girl at each venue. Too crazy? Been done? Or can I be the pioneer?
Suggestions on order and plan of attack? I know some times are better than others. Entry fees vary at various hours?
Who wants to help me plan the SP Trifecta?Just enjoy yourself. Enjoy the moment.
Steve 9696
06-01-19, 16:59
Casarao 11 pm-12 am, to avoid lines to get your room.
I would like to join you, but I just changed jobs and Im afraid, next few months I cannot take enough days off to go to Brazil.True that. At 4:30 AM on a Saturday night there was a line! Course Carolina and I just walked a block or so to some other love motel.
I will probably stay near Jardins. So maybe Scandallo first and then closer to home with BomBoa and Casarao. I've heard dinner At Scandallo is not bad. Maybe start there. Tho I would love to see it in full swing. I am guessing that is midnight or later?
I never did figure out how to use a prepaid card for premium access, so I guess the full ABG tour isn't going to happen. I am here now and may be my only night to try out the scene. Planning to try Scandallos tonight. My only concern is the language barrier.
Anyone else thinking of going tonight? Otherwise any advice for someone who speaks no Portuguese?
Appreciate any comments! Thanks!
AltoBomGosto
06-02-19, 11:42
I never did figure out how to use a prepaid card for premium access, so I guess the full ABG tour isn't going to happen. I am here now and may be my only night to try out the scene. Planning to try Scandallos tonight. My only concern is the language barrier.
Anyone else thinking of going tonight? Otherwise any advice for someone who speaks no Portuguese?
Appreciate any comments! Thanks!Sorry if I didn't get in touch with you yesterday but I got your message now.
Scandallo is closed today but I will be at Tangará today and will be glad to help you.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
06-02-19, 11:56
I never did figure out how to use a prepaid card for premium access, so I guess the full ABG tour isn't going to happen. I am here now and may be my only night to try out the scene. Planning to try Scandallos tonight. My only concern is the language barrier.
Anyone else thinking of going tonight? Otherwise any advice for someone who speaks no Portuguese?
Appreciate any comments! Thanks!Today my plan is to get laid at Tangará with Mel, a gorgeous samba school dancer mulata. She only works at Tangara on Saturdays and Sundays.
If someone wants to meet me I will be there afternoon.
ABG.
Planning to try Scandallos tonight. My only concern is the language barrier.
Anyone else thinking of going tonight? Otherwise any advice for someone who speaks no Portuguese?You should get familiar with this thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1887-Portuguese-Words-and-Phrases
When men go to Brazil or anywhere for that matter, it's a good idea to pick up a book to take on the plane and spend an hour or two getting familiarized with general phrases.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=10+minutes+a+day+portuguese&ref=nb_sb_noss_2.
Speaking to Brazilian girls who don't speak English is not that hard. Tell them they are beautiful. Learn how to say I like you. And of course how much.
MongerForSex
06-03-19, 15:25
Yes, many of them do have plump, soft, round, white bubble butts (have pics of those too). This is one reason why I love Brazil so much. But then again, many, many others of them do not. Your sweeping generalizations simply do not hold water when placed alongside the facts.
By the way guys, I buggered most of these Brazilian girls pictured in their smallish, slender, tender, warm, tight and forbidden anal cavities. Taisha had a toned "muscle butt". Damn I love your country MongerForSex! Perhaps I will seek to buy property and retire there one day. We shall see.Brazil is the best country when it comes to sex, that's why I have no interest in living in the USA. I stay away from catholicism and feminism. Sao paulo is the best city to monger followed by Rio de Janeiro. You can also monger in other cities. Brazil is a good country to retire. Buying a property is the best way to get permanent visa. How much, it depends on the area.
Eszpresszo
06-04-19, 01:10
Brazil is the best country when it comes to sex, that's why I have no interest in living in the USA. I stay away from catholicism and feminism. Yet, Brazil is an overwhelmingly catholic nation. So, how do you manage to avoid all that Catholicism?
First, thanks WyattEarp and ABG for your earlier replies and info. I didn't realize the time lapse for posts so didn't see them in time. I did make it to Scandallos on Saturday night. There isn't much I can add that has not already been said here, but WOW that place is amazing! No problem with the language. I speak Spanish fairly well and it turns out that was enough to communicate.
Took a 8.5 IMO blonde from Curitiba to the onsite hotel. A top 2 or 3 (maybe #1?) experience ever in my book!!
I have one last night tomorrow night near GRU to catch early flight out on Wednesday. Any suggestions around that area?
Thanks again!
MongerForSex
06-04-19, 06:19
Yet, Brazil is an overwhelmingly catholic nation. So, how do you manage to avoid all that Catholicism?Brazil is not a conservative country unlike the USA. Brazil is not sex prison, sex is not taboo in Brazil, Brazilians don't judge people from other religious belief. Most people are catholics but don't really practise their religion. Even if they practise, they are more open.
Yet, Brazil is an overwhelmingly catholic nation. So, how do you manage to avoid all that Catholicism?Yeah, I would say that Catholicism is far more of an issue in Brazil and throughout Latin America than it is in the United States. In the States, it's Protestantism that's the problem LOL!
Yet, Brazil is an overwhelmingly catholic nation. So, how do you manage to avoid all that Catholicism?I believe there are historical cultural undercurrents. First and foremost, the original Portuguese settlers didn't bring a lot of women from Europe. They mixed it up with the Native women and the African slaves. I don't get that the Portuguese men were in matrimony and altogether monogamous. I'm guessing the Portuguese men also hypersexualized Native and African women. I've also read the indigenous tribes themselves were not culturally monogamous before the arrival of the Europeans.
Catholics have a thing called Salvation.
JohnJones22
06-04-19, 22:03
Yesterday (Monday) early afternoon, went to tour the clinicas en Moema. Started off at Abbobora which I read some people describe as 'having a bunch of 8's-9's'. Around 15 girls there, I'd say they were more 6's and 7's. I'm in Brazil goddamnit, I'm not going to bang no 6's or 7's. Left that place, went to Enjoy Spa which I also heard was on Abbobora's 'level'. I probably got there too early (2 pm) as there were only like 4 girls and none of them caught my eye. Next I went to Miruna's, which was definitely 1 notch below those 2 first ones. Left that place too. Thought I'd finish at Kamna's, only 1 girl at the time and she wasn't my type so that was that. I didn't have a chance to go to Chanes 57 which I've heard good things about but judging by the other places, something tells me there probably wouldn't be anything for me there.
At night I decided to go to Casarao. For those who don't know, Casarao does (free?) churrasco nights on Mondays so you can imagine it gets pretty packed. There was a 10 min line when I got there (11 pm), and when I come to think of it, it's kinda ridiculous. For anyone who knows people in SP and doesn't want to be seen in line. Casarao needs to step their game up and check-in people quicker. We can't just be exposed on the sidewalk like that, pervy mofos. I felt like the check-in dude just had no f's to give and took his sweet old time. Anyway, once in there, lots of girls of course. But again, nothing for me. Stuck around for about 2 hours and I only saw 1 knockout, but someone grabbed her and paid the exit fee for the girl, she probably wasn't coming back that night.
I talked to a fellow working girl monger inside Casarao and he told me to check out a club in SP called Bahamas. Says it's on Scandallo level, if not higher. People in this thread are always talking about Scandallo, and yes, it's amazing. But how come no one talks about Bahamas? Anyone ever been?
Yesterday (Monday) early afternoon, went to tour the clinicas en Moema. Started off at Abbobora which I read some people describe as 'having a bunch of 8's-9's'. Around 15 girls there, I'd say they were more 6's and 7's. I'm in Brazil goddamnit, I'm not going to bang no 6's or 7's. Left that place, went to Enjoy Spa which I also heard was on Abbobora's 'level'. I probably got there too early (2 pm) as there were only like 4 girls and none of them caught my eye. Next I went to Miruna's, which was definitely 1 notch below those 2 first ones. Left that place too. Thought I'd finish at Kamna's, only 1 girl at the time and she wasn't my type so that was that. I didn't have a chance to go to Chanes 57 which I've heard good things about but judging by the other places, something tells me there probably wouldn't be anything for me there.When it comes to the clinicas, I think there are two groups of mongers. There's the ones who think the clinica girls are every bit as hot as the nightclub girls, but at cut rate prices. And then, there are the ones who think the clinica girls are mostly in the 5 to 6 range with a 7 here or there. I'm in that latter camp, and was mostly disappointed as I expected a lot more based on the things I had read here. I saw a tute so fat at one of the clinicas with supposedly "the best" talent that I couldn't believe she was even working! I mean, I'm a reasonable and logical man. If I could steadily get girls at the clinicas who look like the hottest ones at the nightclubs, but at much lower prices, then surely I would do that. Who wouldn't? I think I'm just going to stick mostly with the boites at night, and throw some new places into the mix that I've learned about, like Connection and Bahamas Club. But even Casarao is on the chopping block for me. Again, we shall see.
DreamCarnarvon
06-05-19, 07:41
Yesterday (Monday) early afternoon, went to tour the clinicas en Moema. Started off at Abbobora which I read some people describe as 'having a bunch of 8's-9's'. Around 15 girls there, I'd say they were more 6's and 7's. I'm in Brazil goddamnit, I'm not going to bang no 6's or 7's. Left that place, went to Enjoy Spa which I also heard was on Abbobora's 'level'. I probably got there too early (2 pm) as there were only like 4 girls and none of them caught my eye. Next I went to Miruna's, which was definitely 1 notch below those 2 first ones. Left that place too. Thought I'd finish at Kamna's, only 1 girl at the time and she wasn't my type so that was that.Damn, I thought was picky with girls, but you are on a whole another level. I went to Abbobora a couple of times as well as all the other Moema clinicas. I thought the talent level on average at Abbobora was definitely a notch above the rest. I don't agree with them 'having a buch of 8-9's', I'd say mostly 6-7's, with some 8's. IMO, Brasileiras are more known for their PSE and GFE than their beauty. I'd rather fuck a 7 who is passionate in bed than a 8/9 who is mechanical and disinterested.
2 pm is too late. That the time when the Brasileiras working in that area have their break times. So they go and pick up all the good ones. If you want to see the entire line up, you have to go early and beat these guys to the girls.
MongerForSex
06-05-19, 17:01
When it comes to the clinicas, I think there are two groups of mongers. There's the ones who think the clinica girls are every bit as hot as the nightclub girls, but at cut rate prices. And then, there are the ones who think the clinica girls are mostly in the 5 to 6 range with a 7 here or there. I'm in that latter camp, I am in the third category LOL.
I am in the third category LOL.I knew somebody would say there is a third category. Please describe. Maybe I'm in it too but don't know it LOL!
JohnJones22
06-05-19, 18:18
Damn, I thought was picky with girls, but you are on a whole another level. I went to Abbobora a couple of times as well as all the other Moema clinicas. I thought the talent level on average at Abbobora was definitely a notch above the rest. I don't agree with them 'having a buch of 8-9's', I'd say mostly 6-7's, with some 8's. IMO, Brasileiras are more known for their PSE and GFE than their beauty. I'd rather fuck a 7 who is passionate in bed than a 8/9 who is mechanical and disinterested.
2 pm is too late. That the time when the Brasileiras working in that area have their break times. So they go and pick up all the good ones. If you want to see the entire line up, you have to go early and beat these guys to the girls.I'm definitely a picky mofo. I'm heading to Scandallo tonight, if anyone wants to join, I'll be in the restaurant as of 7 pm (got to get that discount entry fee before 7 pm!
I'm also planning on checking out Connection, Bomboa, Cafe Photo and Bahamas in the next few days. I come to Brazil to bang supermodels. What's the point of living average.
MongerForSex
06-09-19, 20:13
I knew somebody would say there is a third category. Please describe. Maybe I'm in it too but don't know it LOL!I like clubs when I want to choose a girl I really like physically, where I can drink peacefully, talk to the girl without working hard to hunt because I am too tired, I like clinicas when I just want to fuck fast because I have no time, I like regular clubs when I want to hunt even if the girl is not the best looking in the boate.
1) best looking girl without working hard 2) fast sex like fast food 3) games. Restaurants are better but sometimes I like eating fastfood. Hamburger with fries are also good. Sometimes I like to cook by myself even if the taste is not better than restaurant. I am a medical professional not a cook.
I am planning 6 night visit Sao Paulo during Labor day weekend. This is my first trip to Brazil so I am bit nervous about logistics and security in general. I am trying to branch out of North America and European scene and Sao Paulo seems like a good option based on the reports I have read on this forum. Thanks for some detailed reports by KPete and other members which are helping me make a decent itinerary. I plan to stay in one of the Mercure hotels in Moema (most probably Mercure SP Times Square), visit popular boates like Scandallo, Casarao, Bomboa and may be couple of clinicas just to check them out. For local transportation, I have never used Uber so I need to figure out how to have that setup for use in Brazil. I have read reports about difficulties in getting Uber to work in Brazil.
I am going to do 2 night side trip to Iguazu to see falls from both Brazilian and Argentinean side. Based on recent Questner's report I am thrilled to learn Foz do Iguacu has options for fun.
LATAM airlines fares from Sao Paulo to Foz do Iguacu shown on their US site are double to what they sell them on their Brazilian site. Unfortunately LATAM's Brazil site doesn't allow Americans to buy tickets. Is there anyway to avoid paying double?
Like some of you I don't speak Spanish or Portuguese. I am hoping it is not going to be too much of a limitation communicating with girls. Anyone of you visiting Sao Paulo during Labor day? It would be nice to meetup.
I am planning 6 night visit Sao Paulo during Labor day weekend. This is my first trip to Brazil so I am bit nervous about logistics and security in general. For local transportation, I have never used Uber so I need to figure out how to have that setup for use in Brazil. I have read reports about difficulties in getting Uber to work in Brazil. Like some of you I don't speak Spanish or Portuguese. I am hoping it is not going to be too much of a limitation communicating with girls. IMHO: download the Uber app before you arrive. Moema is probably one of the top five safest neighbourhoods in South America. This is Bianca from Casaro, she speaks no English. Personally, I avoid GdPs who speak English.
I am in Brazil and want to fuck prostitutes without condoms (I am on Truvada / PrEP so I'm protected from HIV, and I couldn't care less about other STDs). In fact, I cannot use condoms. So if I have the options between sex with condoms or staying at home looking at the celiing fan, I would choose the latter every time.
Let me tell you, unlike other countries, it seems that finding a prostitute who agrees to have condomless sex in Brazil is almost impossible. Guys who want BBFS should skip Brazil. But I am stuck here for a while, unfortunately.
I am talking only about prostitutes. Non-pro girls will happily have condomless sex, 99% of them will.
Most of the hookers here, when asked if they do penetration without condoms, get really offended and aggressive, like if you just insulted their mother, LOL. There's no negotiation with the majority of them. It doesn't matter if you offer to pay more, or talk about testing, etc. Most of them also have never heard of Truvada / PrEP, which could allow them to offer bareback to their clients and keep themselves safe from HIV, which is their main worry. And it's available for free in Brazil.
But the demand for bareback sex with hookers, from the point of view of men, is enormous. A lot of men want it. Hookers (and clubs) who do it will surely make a LOT of money and get many clients.
There's a forum in Portuguese language called GPGuia, it's the main (and only, AKAIK) forum about prostitution in Brazil, and discussions of hookers who do bareback are forbidden there.
Do anyone know a termas, club, or where I can find hookers which have condomless sex in São Paulo?
MongerForSex
06-14-19, 19:37
I am in Brazil and want to fuck prostitutes without condoms (I am on Truvada / PrEP so I'm protected from HIV, and I couldn't care less about other STDs). In fact, I cannot use condoms. So if I have the options between sex with condoms or staying at home looking at the celiing fan, I would choose the latter every time.
Let me tell you, unlike other countries, it seems that finding a prostitute who agrees to have condomless sex in Brazil is almost impossible. Guys who want BBFS should skip Brazil. But I am stuck here for a while, unfortunately.
I am talking only about prostitutes. Non-pro girls will happily have condomless sex, 99% of them will.
Most of the hookers here, when asked if they do penetration without condoms, get really offended and aggressive, like if you just insulted their mother, LOL. There's no negotiation with the majority of them. It doesn't matter if you offer to pay more, or talk about testing, etc. Most of them also have never heard of Truvada / PrEP, which could allow them to offer bareback to their clients and keep themselves safe from HIV, which is their main worry. And it's available for free in Brazil.
But the demand for bareback sex with hookers, from the point of view of men, is enormous. A lot of men want it. Hookers (and clubs) who do it will surely make a LOT of money and get many clients.
There's a forum in Portuguese language called GPGuia, it's the main (and only, AKAIK) forum about prostitution in Brazil, and discussions of hookers who do bareback are forbidden there.
Do anyone know a termas, club, or where I can find hookers which have condomless sex in So Paulo?I am against truvada use. Truvada increases the risk of other STDs. Because it affects your immune response to many bacterial diseases and make you believe you are safe from sex. Truvada was used for people with HIV. Even if you don't use truvada, you won't catch hiv from girls unless you are a drug user or a man that identifies himself as a straight man but have sex with other men. Better to use condoms. STDs are not life threatening but can cause some damage, you may have some scars on your penis. In Brazil there are many STDs that don't exist or are rare in western world. If you get a woman pregnant in Brazil you are fucked. It's possible to have sex with women from high end clubs without condom if you pay well and act well if the girl knows you well but for the fisrt time it will be hard. I don't advise you to have sex without condom in trash clubs because women are not tested and fuck many guys a day. Many sensible girls don't trust guys even if they are on truvada, how they know you take truvada regularly, word means nothing. I am against truvada use. Truvada is the worst thing a healthy person can take. Truvada is only recommended for MSM. There is a 10 year study in SF with serodiscordant couples. The biggest study about straight serodiscordant couples. No one was hiv positive 10 years later, HIV is not a big concern for drugfree straight men, 82 per cent of people living with HIV in Brazil are MSM (GAYS, Bisexuals, Transexuals) 18 percent of other people (junkies, people born from infected women, people that recieved blood transfusion over 30 years ago and straight women. ). That's why condoms are important for vaginal and anal sex to protect your penis from many infections that may cause scars, pain, ugly ulcers on the penis or/and even amputation. Being a dickless man or having so many permanent scrars on the penis is not cool. Gonorrhea is so painful when it's symptomatic you will never forget that experience. Having an unwanted kid in Brazil will ruin your life. But it's better to have unprotected sex with women from terma or high end clubs. But you need to know those women before having sex condomless unless they are junkies and don't give a fuck about their health. In Rio de Janeiro women from termas are careful about their health and they get tested every month especially women from Cancun, Monte Carlo, Solarium. Women from 4 x4 get tested in Cancun because there is a gynecologist in Cancun, he checks many terma women even the ones from 4 x4. There is no terma in Sao Paulo. There are only clubs. Scandallo is one of the most known club. Many good looking women but very expensive. If you are into termas, it's better to go to Rio de Janeiro but If you are into clubs, nightlife activities, more different women racially then Sao Paulo is the best.
............. If you get a woman pregnant in Brazil you are fucked. ................ Having an unwanted kid in Brazil will ruin your life................How so? Do you think a guy who is cavalier about his own health by not using a condom will give 2 shits about his kid in Brazil? He'll just go back to his own country.
AltoBomGosto
06-15-19, 12:01
I am planning 6 night visit Sao Paulo during Labor day weekend. This is my first trip to Brazil so I am bit nervous about logistics and security in general. I am trying to branch out of North America and European scene and Sao Paulo seems like a good option based on the reports I have read on this forum. Thanks for some detailed reports by KPete and other members which are helping me make a decent itinerary. I plan to stay in one of the Mercure hotels in Moema (most probably Mercure SP Times Square), visit popular boates like Scandallo, Casarao, Bomboa and may be couple of clinicas just to check them out. For local transportation, I have never used Uber so I need to figure out how to have that setup for use in Brazil. I have read reports about difficulties in getting Uber to work in Brazil.
I am going to do 2 night side trip to Iguazu to see falls from both Brazilian and Argentinean side. Based on recent Questner's report I am thrilled to learn Foz do Iguacu has options for fun.
LATAM airlines fares from Sao Paulo to Foz do Iguacu shown on their US site are double to what they sell them on their Brazilian site. Unfortunately LATAM's Brazil site doesn't allow Americans to buy tickets. Is there anyway to avoid paying double?
Like some of you I don't speak Spanish or Portuguese. I am hoping it is not going to be too much of a limitation communicating with girls. Anyone of you visiting Sao Paulo during Labor day? It would be nice to meetup.PM me if you need more information.
ABG.
MongerForSex
06-15-19, 19:29
How so? Do you think a guy who is cavalier about his own health by not using a condom will give 2 shits about his kid in Brazil? He'll just go back to his own country.So many people think they are safe when they use truvada. That medication is very toxic and affects kidney, liver, skin and immune response to many virulent infections and cause inflamatory in the body, it also affects the brain. I recieved a few patients that are gay men with secondary syphilis rash along with ocular syphilis (posterior uveitis). They all used prep and thought they are safe from sex. STDs can cause damage especially when you use some medication that affects your immune response and practice unprotected sex because you feel safe. He has the right to fuck up his body we are in a free country. Syphilis are increasing in Brazil since post-exposure prophylaxis was used. There are over 100 000 cases of syphilis in Brazil per year mainly because of Prep and chemsex. Immunocompetent straight men don't catch hiv from women but they can catch many nasty stds that's why condoms must be used for vaginal sex and anal sex if you still have something to lose. E coli is not considered to be a STI but you can catch it from unprotected anal sex like many other infections that are not considered to be STI. STI means a disease that is mainly transmitted from sex. We don't need unwanted babies in Brazil. There are too many kids on the street. Sensible women caring for their health won't want to have unprotected sex with a man they don't know well and met for the first time even if he is on truvada because there are other STDs.
Something that surprised me when I spent time in Brazil is how seriously people took AIDS. Not just for sex, I remember getting some injections and the nurse did a real army drill always showing that the needle was new and how it was disposed after being used.
The fact that the first victims of AIDS where white gay rich kids helped a lot I think to raise awareness (thinking of Renato Russo among others).
So many people think they are safe when they .... There are too many kids on the street. Sensible women caring for their health won't want to have unprotected sex with a man they don't know well and met for the first time even if he is on truvada because there are other STDs.
That medication is very toxic and affects kidney, liver, skin and immune response to many virulent infections and cause inflamatory in the body, it also affects the brain.Dude,
I understand if you don't like Truvada because of the other STDs, as I said before, I don't care about them. We're all adults and we take the risks we are willing to take. I don't smoke, nor drink, nor eat bacon. All those 3 activities are dangerous from a health point of view, but some people choose that the risk is acceptable to them.
But, don't go around spreading about Truvada "affecting the brain" - do you have a source for that? I closely follow research about PrEP and Truvada since 2012, have friends involved in government PrEP programs and have never heard about that in the myriad of papers and studies on PrEP and Truvada. In a very small percentage of those who take it, it may tax the kidney and liver. In a very small percentage of people who take it. And that's why users of Truvada are continuously monitored. Also, regarding "skin reactions" - another very small percentage develop rash and itch and usually go away on its own in a few days or few weeks. Most of people (including myself) who take Truvada haven't experienced any side effects, and have normal results for liver and kidney markers on blood panels.
There are many people who already have sex without a condom, and repeating the mantra "use a condom" to them like a mommy won't make them use condoms. If that worked, the HIV epidemic would have ended decades ago. Instead, by spreading misinformation about PrEP and Truvada, those people whom PrEP would be a great way to protect them from HIV, these people can get scared because they start thinking Truvada will heavily damage their bodies (but it won't), and they will stay vulnerable to catching HIV because they are not taking Truvada because of scaremongering by people like you. We have a great tool to protect people from HIV and we as a society should be celebrating that, we have a tool that finally could allow the HIV epidemic to end, because people have been, and will be, having sex without condoms. But according to people like you, no, let's bury that and scare people away from it because it will turn them away from the holy condom. Think about how many new infections Truvada can stop. Think about how many lifes it saves.
Academics and people in the health sector are scratching their heads wondering why such a revolutionary tool is having a ridiculously low adoption, even though condom use is plummeting. It's because of this whole "but but but other STDs, no condoms, the world will end! People like you made the holy condom an end in itself, and not a tool for protected sex. I bet you 95% of men use condoms mainly because of HIV, before HIV, some decades ago, no one used condoms. If you use condoms because you're afraid of catching syphilis or gonorrhea, fine, it's your right to do it if you're not willing to take the risk. Do whatever makes you happy. But you're doing a great disservice to men who won't use condoms (regardless of your mommy talk) AND won't take Truvada because of your scaremongering. By the same logic of yours, women shouldn't take contraceptives because they should use a condom instead. By the way, do you use condoms (or dental dams) for oral sex? Probably not, right? And you know that it also carries the risk of STD transmission right? So, double standards.
Criticize all you want about Truvada, PrEP, how barebacking is wrong, how condoms are the only way, how irresponsible anyone who doesn't use a condom is. But don't just spill untrue "facts" or lies about Truvada, it's even worse when you do that without quoting a serious source. You're doing a great disservice to people whom Truvada would be very useful and save them from HIV. You're helping no one with PrEP shaming.
I will leave this link here if someone wants to read deep, insightful and accurate information on PrEP and Truvada: https://prepfacts.org/.
I won't reply further about this topic because my post is not about Truvada and I don't want to turn this discussion off-topic, this is not a Truvada thread. People who want more info on that can use Google.
And about having kids, I have a vasectomy, and ladies who work in the sex trade are probably taking contraceptives.
..............The fact that the first victims of AIDS where white gay rich kids helped a lot I think to raise awareness (thinking of Renato Russo among others).AIDS was first detected in early 1968 when a black 15 year-old teenager from St. Louis, Missouri named Robert Rayford became infected. He died in May, 1969.
So many people think they are safe when they use truvada. That medication is very toxic and affects kidney, liver, skin and immune response to many virulent infections and cause inflamatory in the body, it also affects the brain. I recieved a few patients that are gay men with secondary syphilis rash along with ocular syphilis (posterior uveitis). They all used prep and thought they are safe from sex. STDs can cause damage especially when you use some medication that affects your immune response and practice unprotected sex because you feel safe. He has the right to fuck up his body we are in a free country. Syphilis are increasing in Brazil since post-exposure prophylaxis was used. There are over 100 000 cases of syphilis in Brazil per year mainly because of Prep and chemsex. Immunocompetent straight men don't catch hiv from women but they can catch many nasty stds that's why condoms must be used for vaginal sex and anal sex if you still have something to lose. E coli is not considered to be a STI but you can catch it from unprotected anal sex like many other infections that are not considered to be STI. STI means a disease that is mainly transmitted from sex. We don't need unwanted babies in Brazil. There are too many kids on the street. Sensible women caring for their health won't want to have unprotected sex with a man they don't know well and met for the first time even if he is on truvada because there are other STDs.Hey Doc, what about DATY?
AIDS was first detected in early 1968 when a black 15 year-old teenager from St. Louis, Missouri named Robert Rayford became infected. He died in May, 1969.As I was describing the attitudes in Brazil while in the Sao Paulo thread, I was talking about first victims in Brazil. Something that may be obvious to some people but clearly not to all. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
So for those who do not connect the dots quickly, initial victims in Brazil were close to the ruling class, and in some cases they were extremely popular. Brazil quickly adopted AIDS prevention policies and enforced them through education campaigns. This is why unprotected sex is not so usual in Brazil. Even my own girlfriend look surprised when I went bareback anal. And no she was not a working girl, currently working at the Boston Consulting Group.
Kind of different from other places where initial victims were coming from not so well connected groups and that took longer to develop those policies.
Correlation? Causality?
MongerForSex
06-16-19, 16:02
Hey Doc, what about DATY?Biker helmet. Lool
MongerForSex
06-16-19, 16:12
As I was describing the attitudes in Brazil while in the Sao Paulo thread, I was talking about first victims in Brazil. Something that may be obvious to some people but clearly not to all. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
So for those who do not connect the dots quickly, initial victims in Brazil were close to the ruling class, and in some cases they were extremely popular. Brazil quickly adopted AIDS prevention policies and enforced them through education campaigns. This is why unprotected sex is not so usual in Brazil. Even my own girlfriend look surprised when I went bareback anal. And no she was not a working girl, currently working at the Boston Consulting Group.
Kind of different from other places where initial victims were coming from not so well connected groups and that took longer to develop those policies.
Correlation? Causality?AIDS is not a real problem in Brazil. The prevalence of HIV in Brazil is the same as in the USA. When HIV started. Scientist thought HIV in Brazil will be an epidemic like in South Africa, and will be also an epidemic in straight population outside African, they all get wrong. 75% of scientific researches are incorrect. I never trusted hypothesis and studies because most patients lie about their life. There are many prooves HIV has never been a concern for many people.
MongerForSex
06-16-19, 19:10
To Pqtcps
Truvada is not good and was used for hiv positive people, it's very toxic for healthy people, It's no use talking to me about Truvada. I studied general medicine, dermatovenerology and infectious diseases for over 10 years. Truvada is useless for straight people. Straight men can't catch HIV from women, there was a 10 year study in San Francisco, nobody was hiv negative. Truvada is very bad for healthy people. I am not the one to give misinformation. My information is based on experience. You are free to take truvada. Straight men don't need truvada. There is no hiv epidemic in straight people in Brazil. Truvada was first used for gay people. If there was only HIV, I would fuck prostitutes without using condoms and I wouldn't need to use truvada for unprotected sex. (vaginal and oral).
https://www.thebodypro.com/article/weighing-risks-of-tdfftc-prep-side-effects-in-peop
https://www.rxlist.com/truvada-side-effects-drug-center.htm#overview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcAHd8XAHxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDiE1hhtZKk
https://www.poz.com/article/hiv-medications-possibly-including-prep-may-raise-susceptibility-syphilis
We only hear gays when it comes to Prep. I don't know if you are trolling. It looks like an advertisement. Straight men don't need to use prep. Straight men can't catch hiv from women. Most straight men that caught hiv are junkies or MSM, many MSM consider themeselves as straight men but still have sex with other men. To me, they are bisexuals not straight. Some unlucky straight men contracted hiv from transfusion or were born from infected women. But I still advise people to use condoms for the well being of your male organs. STD don't kill but can cause problems that are not good to live. If you want to fuck without condom, you are free. But saying truvada will protects you or saying other STDs don't cause serious problems is misinformation.
End of discussion.
MongerForSex
06-16-19, 22:14
To Pqtcps
Truvada is useless for straight people. Straight men can't catch HIV from women, there was a 10 year study in San Francisco, nobody was hiv negative.
.Correction: Nobody was HIV positive.
GeneHickman
06-16-19, 22:30
AIDS is not a real problem in Brazil. The prevalence of HIV in Brazil is the same as in the USA. When HIV started. Scientist thought HIV in Brazil will be an epidemic like in South Africa, and will be also an epidemic in straight population outside African, they all get wrong. 75% of scientific researches are incorrect. I never trusted hypothesis and studies because most patients lie about their life. There are many prooves HIV has never been a concern for many people.Assuming this is correct, how would you explain the pandemic of HIV in Africa prior to these drugs. Africa is not known for its homosexual prevalence, in fact one could argue they are a very homophobic society.
There is a lot of heterosexual transmission of HIV there by all accounts. Are you saying all of that is bisexual men spreading it like wildfire all over the continent? Seems hard to believe.
FWIW, I have never heard of Truvada use in a preventative way except in homosexual men. If there is as much barebacking as apparently goes on, then these putas should be on it?
Steve 9696
06-16-19, 23:28
I would like to add to the AIDS conversation. Absolutely nothing. You guys are seriously harshing my mellow. I am coming in a few weeks and want to get all warmed up. Please post some awesome reports.
On my to do list when I get there:
Scandallo, Bom Boa, Casarao, Carolina and Mary (girls not clubs). Should I try Connections or Bahamas or some of these second tier venues? I do want to try a high-end Clinica — I think Enjoy or Moema Prime might be considered best her — thoughts welcome.
Thanks!
P.S. It looks like Thifanys engagement really is swept her off her feet so we won't be meeting. I wish her the best tho. What a magic slice of life she was.
MongerForSex
06-16-19, 23:57
I would like to add to the AIDS conversation. Absolutely nothing. You guys are seriously harshing my mellow. I am coming in a few weeks and want to get all warmed up. Please post some awesome reports.
Agree, let's have sex with some bitches and write awesome reports about Sao Paulo.
Enjoy your trip in Sao Paolo.
That's why I ignore the post of GeneHickman because I don't want to harsh your mellow.
Sorry for messing up Sao Paulo thread.
Assuming this is correct, how would you explain the pandemic of HIV in Africa prior to these drugs. Africa is not known for its homosexual prevalence, in fact one could argue they are a very homophobic society.This is the least scientific thing I'm probably going to read all year. It's like saying we didn't have as many homosexuals in the USA seventy years ago. Homosexuality is likely shunned and persecuted in most of Africa. This means it's just driven underground.
Without going into graphic details, the problem in Africa has to do with both health practices and sexual practices. It's not simply about who sleeps with who.
............initial victims in Brazil were close to the ruling class, and in some cases they were extremely popular..............Wrong again. Initial AIDS sufferers in Brazil were gay men some of whom were rich gay white men. These rich gay white men received much publicity in the media which perhaps gave you the impression that "the initial victims in Brazil were close to the ruling class". The Most famous Brazilian AIDS victim was rock star Cazuza who died in Rio de Janeiro on July 7, 1990 at the age of 32, it received widespread publicity. AIDS first appeared in Brazil circa 1982.
Wrong again. Initial AIDS sufferers in Brazil were gay men some of whom were rich gay white men. These rich gay white men received much publicity in the media which perhaps gave you the impression that "the initial victims in Brazil were close to the ruling class". The Most famous Brazilian AIDS victim was rock star Cazuza who died in Rio de Janeiro on July 7, 1990 at the age of 32, it received widespread publicity. AIDS first appeared in Brazil circa 1982.I think it is pointless to argue with you.
At night I decided to go to Casarao. For those who don't know, Casarao does (free?) churrasco nights on Mondays so you can imagine it gets pretty packed. There was a 10 min line when I got there (11 pm), and when I come to think of it, it's kinda ridiculous. For anyone who knows people in SP and doesn't want to be seen in line. Casarao needs to step their game up and check-in people quicker. We can't just be exposed on the sidewalk like that, pervy mofos. I felt like the check-in dude just had no f's to give and took his sweet old time. Anyway, once in there, lots of girls of course. But again, nothing for me. Stuck around for about 2 hours and I only saw 1 knockout, but someone grabbed her and paid the exit fee for the girl, she probably wasn't coming back that night.LMBAO. Casarao has totally revamped their entry process. There's no waiting at all now. You pick up your commanda, go straight in, pay on the way out. They took your advice!
AltoBomGosto
06-20-19, 12:17
I would like to add to the AIDS conversation. Absolutely nothing. You guys are seriously harshing my mellow. I am coming in a few weeks and want to get all warmed up. Please post some awesome reports.
On my to do list when I get there:
Scandallo, Bom Boa, Casarao, Carolina and Mary (girls not clubs). Should I try Connections or Bahamas or some of these second tier venues? I do want to try a high-end Clinica I think Enjoy or Moema Prime might be considered best her thoughts welcome.
Thanks!
P.S. It looks like Thifanys engagement really is swept her off her feet so we won't be meeting. I wish her the best tho. What a magic slice of life she was.Least week I went with my customer to this clinica, located on Av. Moaci.
Small but very clean and cozy atmosphere, 04 girls but all European style blondes and brunettes.
[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) was my choice, a nice 19 yo blonde, GFE, DFK and BBBJ.
PM me for more details.
ABG.
Marcus Demon
06-20-19, 23:01
LMBAO. Casarao has totally revamped their entry process. There's no waiting at all now. You pick up your commanda, go straight in, pay on the way out. They took your advice!Hello!
I am going to be visiting So Paulo next week and I am interested in visiting some massagems / Privies. Hungrystud101 mentioned Brooklin and I would like to visit the massagems that have the best girls and services. I want to get in touch with ABG but you are in the process of signing up for subscription and the cash only process right by mail is super slow and I know will not arrive in time. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
HungryStud101
06-21-19, 15:56
Hey Marcus.
Welcome to the forum. As I said before, Sampa is an incredible, incredible, incredible resource for pussy. I feel like I have barely scratched the surface here. The British explorers called Africa the Dark Continent because so much was unexplored and the jungle was so dense and wrought with danger it wasn't easy to explore without help. I feel this way about Brazil. There is so much there but it is not a place to go in blind. 1.) Read the forum. 2.) start learning words and phrases now. 3.) Find out how to sign up for PMs on ISG and 4.) seek out the help by an experienced gia tourista like ABG and have fun. 5.) write detailed reviews and seek out friends like Rovnak and other experienced explorers.
When I first went to Brooklin, my amigo Gus who lives in the state of Sao Paulo thought that the price for a massage was just the price for the room rental. He couldn't believe when the madam said "Meninas apresentacao" and the parade of girls came out and I took two to a room and that I didn't have to pay anything extra. During the car ride back to his town he said over and over "It takes a gringo" followed by this beautiful phrase "que conhece voce nao acredito. " I am a putario (eh, what's that phrase again for one who loves putarias?).
There's gold in them hills Marcus. Go with ABG. He knows these woods. His knowledge is current.
Hello!
I am going to be visiting So Paulo next week and I am interested in visiting some massagems / Privies. Hungrystud101 mentioned Brooklin and I would like to visit the massagems that have the best girls and services. I want to get in touch with ABG but you are in the process of signing up for subscription and the cash only process right by mail is super slow and I know will not arrive in time. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
AltoBomGosto
06-21-19, 23:34
Hey Marcus.
Welcome to the forum. As I said before, Sampa is an incredible, incredible, incredible resource for pussy. I feel like I have barely scratched the surface here. The British explorers called Africa the Dark Continent because so much was unexplored and the jungle was so dense and wrought with danger it wasn't easy to explore without help. I feel this way about Brazil. There is so much there but it is not a place to go in blind. 1.) Read the forum. 2.) start learning words and phrases now. 3.) Find out how to sign up for PMs on ISG and 4.) seek out the help by an experienced gia tourista like ABG and have fun. 5.) write detailed reviews and seek out friends like Rovnak and other experienced explorers.
When I first went to Brooklin, my amigo Gus who lives in the state of Sao Paulo thought that the price for a massage was just the price for the room rental..Marcus, it's been a great pleasure to talk with you. See you soon.
ABG.
Steve 9696
06-23-19, 00:31
So I am still considering the Scandallo Bomboa Casarao trifecta. Last time I was at Scandallo was a Saturday so not prime time. I am arriving a Thursday this time and think I will plan around seeing Scandallo in full swing. I am guessing that is 12 or 1 am on a Thursday? Do tell! What is the time you think it will be most packed with girls?
P.S. How is the food at Bomboa?
Steve 9696
06-23-19, 02:40
So I am still considering the Scandallo Bomboa Casarao trifecta. Last time I was at Scandallo was a Saturday so not prime time. I am arriving a Thursday this time and think I will plan around seeing Scandallo in full swing. I am guessing that is 12 or 1 am on a Thursday? Do tell! What is the time you think it will be most packed with girls?
P.S. How is the food at Bomboa?And then on Friday PM I suppose I will try Abobora. Will the selection be good at 3 PM? (If not please recommend).
P.S. How is the food at Bomboa?The Asian & sushi menu is excellent! The garotas love the dessert menu (but then I guess that's the case with all women).
Azn Safado
06-23-19, 04:55
And then on Friday PM I suppose I will try Abobora. Will the selection be good at 3 PM? (If not please recommend).Might as well do the Moema rectangle at 3 p on a Friday. Prime, Miruna, Abbobora, then Enjoy. Abbobora's lineup didn't change much at all when I was in SP for over a month. Seemed like a third of the lineup was women in their early 30's. The lineup was better on Saturdays because of free lancers.
AltoBomGosto
06-23-19, 14:53
Might as well do the Moema rectangle at 3 p on a Friday. Prime, Miruna, Abbobora, then Enjoy. Abbobora's lineup didn't change much at all when I was in SP for over a month. Seemed like a third of the lineup was women in their early 30's. The lineup was better on Saturdays because of freelancers.Kamna had some very young garotas least time I went there.
ABG.
HarvestBoi
06-23-19, 15:34
P.S. How is the food at Bomboa?I had a steak and a bottle of Malbec at Bomboa and it was perfectly fine tho not exceptional. I expect that the relative cost / value of the food at Bomboa compared to Scandallo is similar to that of the garotas at both places, that is Bomboa is both a little cheaper and a little lower in quality but still good enough. I'd kinda hoped I might be in Sampa in July but looks like my return trip has been delayed unti later in the year. Have fun and we await your reports.
Hb.
Steve 9696
06-23-19, 17:54
Might as well do the Moema rectangle at 3 p on a Friday. Prime, Miruna, Abbobora, then Enjoy. Abbobora's lineup didn't change much at all when I was in SP for over a month. Seemed like a third of the lineup was women in their early 30's. The lineup was better on Saturdays because of free lancers.Great tip on the freelancers. Will definitely make sure to go Saturday.
I expect that the relative cost / value of the food at Bomboa compared to Scandallo is similar to that of the garotas at both places, that is Bomboa is both a little cheaper and a little lower in quality but still good enough..Scandallo minus the pretentiousness minus the price inflation minus the de jure standoffishness of Cafe Photo minus the garotas at Casarao walking around in gaudy outfits with their ass cheeks hanging out minus the excess of Helpee = Bomboa.
Scandallo minus the pretentiousness minus the price inflation minus the de jure standoffishness of Cafe Photo minus the garotas at Casarao walking around in gaudy outfits with their ass cheeks hanging out minus the excess of Helpee = Bomboa.Hey, I liked Helpee! What exactly was the excess?
Hey, I liked Helpee! What exactly was the excess?Excess in terms of as soon as you walked out the door w / your choice, you would always see someone more desirable. In the back of mind I always thought I'the made a hasty choice! Excess in terms of too many choices!
Excess in terms of as soon as you walked out the door w / your choice, you would always see someone more desirable. In the back of mind I always thought I'the made a hasty choice! Excess in terms of too many choices!Haha! I was pretty good at making a connection with the girl I chose most of the time. I also probably was putting on blinders and focusing on my girl. If you saw a hot girl at Help, you knew she was probably going to be there all week.
The first thirty minutes after walking in were the craziest. You were checking all the girls out and seeing what was available. What a dopamine rush! I still experience that rush at the SP boates.
Steve 9696
06-24-19, 15:59
Haha! I was pretty good at making a connection with the girl I chose most of the time. I also probably was putting on blinders and focusing on my girl. If you saw a hot girl at Help, you knew she was probably going to be there all week.
The first thirty minutes after walking in were the craziest. You were checking all the girls out and seeing what was available. What a dopamine rush! I still experience that rush at the SP boates.So I gather help / helpee no longer exists or is not in São Paulo? Never see it discussed.
Turns out my hotel is 300 m from Bomboa. Does the "never walk alone at night" advice apply here? Seems a very short stretch? Nice enough neighborhood? Advice please? Thanks.
Turns out my hotel is 300 m from Bomboa. Does the "never walk alone at night" advice apply here? Seems a very short stretch? Nice enough neighborhood? Advice please? Thanks.Please let me know how the hotel is. I made a reservation in the same hotel for 4 nights. What comes to walking alone to your hotel, I think you need an escort with stilettos. That's my plan at least.
I read more than 100 of your pages about SP and I thank you guys.
Soon there for 10 days. Traveling on business, I will not have much time and I do not speak Portuguese at all.
Here is my strategy:
1) Book in a Mercure hotel (they all seem girl friendly).
2) send messages to escorts with WhatsApp to invite them to my hotel for 1 h or 1 h30.
What is your experience with the response rate on WhatsApp? (using an automatic translator if necessary).
What do you think of my strategy?
So I gather help / helpee no longer exists or is not in So Paulo? Never see it discussed.
Turns out my hotel is 300 m from Bomboa. Does the "never walk alone at night" advice apply here? Seems a very short stretch? Nice enough neighborhood? Advice please? Thanks.IMHO: For the most part Sao Paulo is extremely safe, in your case you're talking about Pinheiros, which is relatively upscale by Brasil standards. I've walked the 30 minutes to Casarao from my flat in Bela Vista at 01:00 AM with no problems on several occasions. The only crime problem I've ever had in Sao Paulo was when I lived in the Rio Pequeno section the neighbourhood kids would steal my t-shirts off my clothesline after I left for work.
UniversalX
06-24-19, 20:20
So I gather help / helpee no longer exists or is not in So Paulo? Never see it discussed.Help Discotheque / Helpee has been closed since 2010 was a famous club in Rio. There was no equivalent to this establishment.
I is talked about extensively by older mongers in Rio de Janeiro Reports section.
AltoBomGosto
06-24-19, 22:11
Please let me know how the hotel is. I made a reservation in the same hotel for 4 nights. What comes to walking alone to your hotel, I think you need an escort with stilettos. That's my plan at least.My friend, you don't have anything to worry, the security of Bamboa will escort you to your hotel door for a small tip.
Any other advice PM me.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
06-24-19, 22:20
I read more than 100 of your pages about SP and I thank you guys.
Soon there for 10 days. Traveling on business, I will not have much time and I do not speak Portuguese at all.
Here is my strategy:
1) Book in a Mercure hotel (they all seem girl friendly).
2) send messages to escorts with WhatsApp to invite them to my hotel for 1 h or 1 h30.
What is your experience with the response rate on WhatsApp? (using an automatic translator if necessary).
What do you think of my strategy?Go to a good clinica and choose a girl from the lineup. You see what you like and choose the girl.
PM me for more information.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
06-24-19, 22:28
Might as well do the Moema rectangle at 3 p on a Friday. Prime, Miruna, Abbobora, then Enjoy. Abbobora's lineup didn't change much at all when I was in SP for over a month. Seemed like a third of the lineup was women in their early 30's. The lineup was better on Saturdays because of free lancers.IMO Tangara has the best freelancers parade at Sat. And Sun.
Most of the other clinicas are closed on Sun.
ABG.
I read more than 100 of your pages about SP and I thank you guys.
Soon there for 10 days. Traveling on business, I will not have much time and I do not speak Portuguese at all.
Here is my strategy:
1) Book in a Mercure hotel (they all seem girl friendly).
2) send messages to escorts with WhatsApp to invite them to my hotel for 1 h or 1 h30.
What is your experience with the response rate on WhatsApp? (using an automatic translator if necessary).
What do you think of my strategy?Check out Scandallo, Bomboa, Cafe Photo, Casarao, Tangara. Check out ClubModel.com on the internet. Meet some garotas in person before you go inviting strangers willy nilly to your place. Do some test driving, then put together your Wet Dream Team. IMHO!
Azn Safado
06-25-19, 06:44
So I gather help / helpee no longer exists or is not in So Paulo? Never see it discussed.
Turns out my hotel is 300 m from Bomboa. Does the "never walk alone at night" advice apply here? Seems a very short stretch? Nice enough neighborhood? Advice please? Thanks.I've walked from the H2 Poker Club to Bomboa at 11 pm on a Saturday night before. The neighborhood seems pretty safe and somewhat upscale.
My friend, you don't have anything to worry, the security of Bamboa will escort you to your hotel door for a small tip.
Any other advice PM me.
ABG.Thanks for your concern, but I'm not worried about my safety. I meant an escort with this kind of stilettos, not a knife, when I walk from Bomboa back to Mercure Pinheiros.
Steve 9696
06-25-19, 17:12
I've walked from the H2 Poker Club to Bomboa at 11 pm on a Saturday night before. The neighborhood seems pretty safe and somewhat upscale.Seems dangerous for Bomboa to be literally steps from my hotel. The danger is my dick might fall off from overuse!
Is there a different charge to take a girl for the short walk to my hotel versus go on site at BB? Obviously I would save the room fee which is significant but just want to know what to expect.
Thanks for your concern, but I'm not worried about my safety. I meant an escort with this kind of stilettos, not a knife, when I walk from Bomboa back to Mercure Pinheiros.They'll change to their "civilian" clothes before they leave so as to not blow their cover with the locals! Surprisingly, most of the garotas I've met at BB222 are not from São Paulo.
Go to a good clinica and choose a girl from the lineup. You see what you like and choose the girl.
PM me for more information.
ABG.Thank you for these tips I appreciate that. I will try to overcome my shyness and the language barrier to go to Scandallo etc.
But as some fellow guys wrote in the previous pages of this forum, I wonder if financially the "outcall" is better? If I understand correctly when going to Scandallo (or other) it will cost you about 500 for the girl, 200 for the room + drinks etc. So it is 1000 are $. Inviting an nice escort directly to your place would require around 500 + 100 for taxi which would be about are $ 600. Correct?
I understand that without knowing the girl, outcall is a hit or miss but I had in mind that with twitter and forum like gpguia we can get an idea of the girl.
Steve 9696
06-27-19, 08:34
Thank you for these tips I appreciate that. I will try to overcome my shyness and the language barrier to go to Scandallo etc.
But as some fellow guys wrote in the previous pages of this forum, I wonder if financially the "outcall" is better? If I understand correctly when going to Scandallo (or other) it will cost you about 500 for the girl, 200 for the room + drinks etc. So it is 1000 are $. Inviting an nice escort directly to your place would require around 500 + 100 for taxi which would be about are $ 600. Correct?
I understand that without knowing the girl, outcall is a hit or miss but I had in mind that with twitter and forum like gpguia we can get an idea of the girl.There is no question outcall will be cheaper. And if U get out of Scandallo for less than 1000 R you are doing pretty good. But Scandallo is NOT for grabbing a girl and having sex. It's the EXPERIENCE you are paying for. Seeing that many 7-10's in one place at one time and all wanting to go with you. Wow. It's intoxicating. Sure if you can't afford it go the direct route or heck go to CAsarao. You'll score there for sure. But if U have the coin the atmosphere and spectacle at Scandallo is unmatched.
Steve 9696
06-27-19, 08:52
Slightly OT: I can't recall for sure where I read about seekingarrangement.com but I think it was this thread. So I thought I would give back. It's a matchmaking app for rich dudes and sugar babies and a great alternative in the US. It ranges from setting up true SB arrangements to just basic P4 P at low hassle. I've had four experiences now all good in their own way.
Girl 1 - very flirty and fun. Quickly clear that P4 P was available but under the guise of dating. We went out to dinner twice and had sex twice. Nice college girl. Not my type physically but fun both in and out of bed. Might repeat.
Girl 2 - really smitten with her. A solid 9 Latina. And a sweet person. High end restaurant date and some very nice making out at the rooftop bar and her car. It was clear this would not be first date sex. I really had to work like a real date to win her over. In the end she freaked out about me being married and we couldn't get past it. Bummed. I was sort of in love. .
Girl 3 - after girl 2 fell thru I started on short notice replacements. First one was very cute but only 20 with the flakiness that goes with that. Sure enough 60 minutes before we meet when she is supposed to send her address she ghosts me.
Girl 4 - so after girl 3 ghosts me I have an hour to find some P4 P. I contact 4 or 5 girls with a pretty direct approach and get some strong bites. Chose a real cutie. She was hot in bed but CBJ and light kissing. Would still repeat. Super cute.
Girl 5 - 31 years old and only a 5-6 on looks but claims to be very service oriented. She was not kidding. From the massage to 2 shots in short order she was a BBBJ magician! Gave her a mega O by hand which was rather satisfying. Oh and 2x CIM swallow no extra charge. Nice!
Have a string of girls lined up for my next trip. I have to say for stateside fun it's pretty darn good but different than straight up P4 P. Really recommend.
Sorry if this was a bit OT but I know a lot of you guys are stateside and always want to help out the fellas!
Slightly OT: I can't recall for sure where I read about seekingarrangement.com but I think it was this thread. So I thought I would give back. It's a matchmaking app for rich dudes and sugar babies and a great alternative in the US. It ranges from setting up true SB arrangements to just basic P4 P at low hassle. I've had four experiences now all good in their own way.
Girl 1 - very flirty and fun. Quickly clear that P4 P was available but under the guise of dating. We went out to dinner twice and had sex twice. Nice college girl. Not my type physically but fun both in and out of bed. Might repeat.
Girl 2 - really smitten with her. A solid 9 Latina. And a sweet person. High end restaurant date and some very nice making out at the rooftop bar and her car. It was clear this would not be first date sex. I really had to work like a real date to win her over. In the end she freaked out about me being married and we couldn't get past it. Bummed. I was sort of in love. .
Girl 3 - after girl 2 fell thru I started on short notice replacements. First one was very cute but only 20 with the flakiness that goes with that. Sure enough 60 minutes before we meet when she is supposed to send her address she ghosts me.I also found Seeking a very interesting site. All the girls I booked I in Bogota showed up on time but by the second encounter were begging for rent money. So what else is new. I'm already lining up girls for a Sao Paulo trip in 2 weeks.
Could someone tell me what clinicas are near the Four Seasons Sao Paulo? I booked it for 10 days but it does look like it's off the beaten track. Could you please direct me in the right directions with a few nightclub hookups for pay.
Thanks in advance.
But as some fellow guys wrote in the previous pages of this forum, I wonder if financially the "outcall" is better? If I understand correctly when going to Scandallo (or other) it will cost you about 500 for the girl, 200 for the room + drinks etc. So it is 1000 are $. Inviting an nice escort directly to your place would require around 500 + 100 for taxi which would be about are $ 600. Correct?
I understand that without knowing the girl, outcall is a hit or miss but I had in mind that with twitter and forum like gpguia we can get an idea of the girl.I would say 400 reais could get you the escort of your dreams with no upcharges. Have you ruled out incall? The top escorts generally operate in the nicer areas of Sao Paulo. Sometimes I am surprised how close they are to my hotel. Like walk down the street close.
Polyamorist
06-27-19, 23:53
Slightly OT: I can't recall for sure where I read about seekingarrangement.com but I think it was this thread. So I thought I would give back. It's a matchmaking app for rich dudes and sugar babies and a great alternative in the US. It ranges from setting up true SB arrangements to just basic P4 P at low hassle. I've had four experiences now all good in their own way.
Salaam Steve. We know in SP there are also girls looking for sugar daddies. I had a few dirty trysts with a really hot college girl and she kept trying to push this arrangement on me where I would be on the hook for all her bills. I wasn't really interested. I figure what is going to happen is she is going to have a real boyfriend, someone closer to her own age, and I am going to be turned into the ATM that lets them both lead the high life.
Which is not to say I am closed to someone who is really consistent and sincere, but in our mongering life that's just a dream. Once the flaking and ghosting starts I'm outta there.
Back in the land of the bunda for a couple of weeks with the aim of going over old ground and covering new in terms of the clinicas.
Arrived on Tuesday so out to play yesterday to Clinica Red (Av Moema 821). The reason? Fernanda. I've followed her around on her Clinica journey as she has moved from one to the next. Why? Because she is gorgeous and incredible in the sack. She didn't disappoint. This is my first time at Clinica Red, looks like a good place in terms of seating area and the rooms. It looked like it has a bar as well? Reception was friendly. As I had made an appointment to see Fernanda I didn't get to see the lineup. Price is 200 reais per hour. They have a Festa Juninha party tomorrow which I may go along to. There is a new Metro Station nearby now (Moema) and it is about 10 minutes walk from the metro to the Clinica.
Today I went to Clinica Brooklin. I've been going along for several years now and was disappointed in the line up in the past 3 years as none of the girls were my type. Looks like things may have improved there now, although I made the wrong choice today. I picked a Gaucha from Porto Alegre called Patricia who looked amazing. Large tits (turned out to be silicon but looked pretty natural, until felt) and large bunda. However, in the room she turned out to be a disappointment. Fairly cold, didn't like kissing, wanted to give a covered BJ and started moaning with 10 seconds of sitting on Junior (really?, within seconds?) All a bit of a turn off and a wasted session really. This has been a rarity for me in Brazil, as the majority of Brazilian girls have been excellent at their job, but it can happen. So just a heads up to fellow mongers, I would give Patricia a miss. I looked her up on GPguia and her reviews were ok, so maybe we didn't have chemistry. Note that a girl called Malu at Brooklin has a lot of negative reviews on gpguia. Cost was 250 reais per hour, you have to pay upfront before the session.
My main squeeze Vivian is in town from Curitiba. Guess where my dick is going tonight? You have three guesses!
Could someone tell me what clinicas are near the Four Seasons Sao Paulo? I booked it for 10 days but it does look like it's off the beaten track.Clinica Brooklin, Rua Joaquim Guarani, 121.
Clinica Kin Center, Travessa Libera Rivelino.
Prive Espaco Morumbi, Rua Chafic Maluf, 101.
Clinica Cancioneiro, Rua Novo Cancioneiro, 88.
The last two, I have never been to, but I would definitely check out the Clinica Kin. Nice staff and very decent line-up. Google Maps puts it slightly in a wrong place. It's not in the corner of the Joaquim Guarani, but in the end of the alley, on the left side.
If you need a crash course on Sao Paulo, I would contact ABG.
I also found Seeking a very interesting site. All the girls I booked I in Bogota showed up on time but by the second encounter were begging for rent money. So what else is new. I'm already lining up girls for a Sao Paulo trip in 2 weeks.
Could someone tell me what clinicas are near the Four Seasons Sao Paulo? I booked it for 10 days but it does look like it's off the beaten track. Could you please direct me in the right directions with a few nightclub hookups for pay.
Thanks in advance.It is off the beaten path. I've stayed there and it is a 4 Seasons designed for a business traveler. It is not the resort type 4 Seasons. Good news is that Uber comes there quickly and freelancers will all show up immediately. Girl friendly? Just walk in with her like you own the place. Tell her to meet you at the bar and just go.
The restaurant, Neto, is fair. Not great.
Jib Reach.
Hi Starfe1,
Nordico is right, all of these are within walking distance of the 4 seasons hotel and, in my experience, it is ok to walk around the area, at least during 'working hours'. I've walked around there until 9 pm and felt safe.
I've been to 3 of these clinicas, for some reason even after 5 years of going to Sao Paulo clinicas I have still not made it to Espaco Morumbi as there is too much choice!. For what it is worth, here is a short summary for Brooklin, Kin and Cancioneiro.
1) Brooklin. Well known location on the forum, you should find lots of info / advice by feeding back through the posts. Good, clean facilities, pleasant staff, 250 reais per hour. You have to pay upfront. Has a large selection of girls. Individual tastes vary, I was there yesterday and not many of 'my type' there and I had a sub-par experience, but that was just me and overall has a very good rating from mongers on the forum who go there. Easy to find, number 121. Guessing the direction you will walk from, it will be on the right almost at the end of the road. You will see guys sitting / standing outside. There is a large '121' on the wall outside.
2) Kin. As Nordico says it is a little harder to find as it is down a little dead-end side street off Rua Joaquim Guarani called Travessa Libera Rivelino. It is on the opposite side of the road to Brooklin, on the left as you walk towards Brooklin. The side street is just before you come to the the Jehovah's Witnesses Kingdom Hall on the left. Sometimes there is a guy sat on a chair at the entrance to the side street but if not you should see the side street and a large sign that has '210' in red on it. The clinica is a few yards down the side street, the large house on the left. In my opinion Kin has improved significantly in recent years in terms of room quality and girl quality and is definitely worth checking out. I sessioned there earlier this year with a girl called Adriana. I can't remember the cost for sure but I think it was 200 reais for the hour?
3) Cancioneiro. I don't know this place as well as the other two as I have only been there a few times when Fernanda was working there. In my opinion the room quality and girl quality was not as good as Brooklin or Kin when I was there in February but has some good recent reviews on gpguia. Session cost was 200 reais per hour in February 2019.
In summary, all of the four clinicas are worth checking out as they are all with 10-15 minutes walk of the hotel and each other, each monger has different tastes and so what hits the spot for me may not for you and the rota of girls in the clinicas turnover regularly. One thing guaranteed, you will have fun.
Remember that these places service the local Brasileiro workers during the working day or a quick session before they go home to their wives so they open around 12 noon and close around 9 or 10 at night. They won't be open late into the night, you will need to travel further afield for that option. They close early on a Saturday and Sunday.
A new Metro station (Brooklin) has now opened nearby and if you are feeling adventurous you could take the lilac metro line to Moema where you have a whole new range of options: Red, Enjoy, Mirunas, Abbobora, Chanes, plus others I've probably forgotten. You could even venture further afield by taking the lilac line to Santa Cruz station where you can change to the Blue line and explore the clinicas located near to metro stations such as Ana Rosa, Praca the Avore, Santa Cruz, Saude, Sao Judas. To find out the options there you will need go look on gpguia and do some homework.
If you are here for the first time and want to hit the ground running fast with lots of local advice then make use of ABG. He will sort you out just fine.
FINALLY, please post reports. You don't have many posts and they are all asking for information but not providing any feedback, updates, info for others to make use off. Without this the forum dies as the people who do post helpful stuff will stop and the form will just become the place for irrelevant discussions and ego-fights between certain members.
AltoBomGosto
06-28-19, 12:55
Hi Starfe1,
Nordico is right, all of these are within walking distance of the 4 seasons hotel and, in my experience, it is ok to walk around the area, at least during 'working hours'. I've walked around there until 9 pm and felt safe.
I've been to 3 of these clinicas, for some reason even after 5 years of going to Sao Paulo clinicas I have still not made it to Espaco Morumbi as there is too much choice!. For what it is worth, here is a short summary for Brooklin, Kin and Cancioneiro.
1) Brooklin. Well known location on the forum, you should find lots of info / advice by feeding back through the posts. Good, clean facilities, pleasant staff, 250 reais per hour. You have to pay upfront. Has a large selection of girls. Individual tastes vary, I was there yesterday and not many of 'my type' there and I had a sub-par experience, but that was just me and overall has a very good rating from mongers on the forum who go there. Easy to find, number 121. Guessing the direction you will walk from, it will be on the right almost at the end of the road. You will see guys sitting / standing outside..Close to Ana Rosa metro there are Yankin, Red Way, Bejin and, the best of all Tangara.
Please. PM me for details.
ABG.
MixedSalad07
06-28-19, 13:24
Is there a different charge to take a girl for the short walk to my hotel versus go on site at BB? Obviously I would save the room fee which is significant but just want to know what to expect.There is a charge to take the girl out. I can't remember how much. I took a girl out of there once, and she agreed to meet me outside so that I could avoid the charge.
Didn't make clear in last email. Exit at Moema metro station for Clinica Red, exit at Eucaliptos metro station for the other clinicas (Mirunas, Enjoy etc).
Hi Starfe1,
Nordico is right, all of these are within walking distance of the 4 seasons hotel and, in my experience, it is ok to walk around the area, at least during 'working hours'. I've walked around there until 9 pm and felt safe.
I've been to 3 of these clinicas, for some reason even after 5 years of going to Sao Paulo clinicas I have still not made it to Espaco Morumbi as there is too much choice!. For what it is worth, here is a short summary for Brooklin, Kin and Cancioneiro.
1) Brooklin. Well known location on the forum, you should find lots of info / advice by feeding back through the posts. Good, clean facilities, pleasant staff, 250 reais per hour. You have to pay upfront. Has a large selection of girls. Individual tastes vary, I was there yesterday and not many of 'my type' there and I had a sub-par experience, but that was just me and overall has a very good rating from mongers on the forum who go there. Easy to find, number 121. Guessing the direction you will walk from, it will be on the right almost at the end of the road...Thank you for your detailed report. You would have to go back 15 years to see my last report. I've always been big on incalls except in SP. I will try to list out who I see on Mclass & Club Model. At 67 years of age, if her tits stand up to gravity she now becomes a 10.
God bless this board.
Arnold.
Close to Ana Rosa metro there are Yankin, Red Way, Bejin and, the best of all Tangara.
Please. PM me for details.
ABG.But are you able to help me locate the best clinicas near the Pinheiros area? Just arrived and looking to bed some gorgeous Brazilian women this weekend. My type is big ass and big tits (surprise LOL). Thanks very much in advance.
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Does anyone know of the hours for the Clinica Shangrila? Literally unable to find it online. Much appreciated.
HungryStud101
06-29-19, 03:04
Hi Starfe1,
Nordico is right, all of these are within walking distance of the 4 seasons hotel and, in my experience, it is ok to walk around the area, at least during 'working hours'. I've walked around there until 9 pm and felt safe.
I've been to 3 of these clinicas, for some reason even after 5 years of going to Sao Paulo clinicas I have still not made it to Espaco Morumbi as there is too much choice!. For what it is worth, here is a short summary for Brooklin, Kin and Cancioneiro.
1) Brooklin. Well known location on the forum, you should find lots of info / advice by feeding back through the posts. Good, clean facilities, pleasant staff, 250 reais per hour. You have to pay upfront. Has a large selection of girls. Individual tastes vary, I was there yesterday and not many of 'my type' there and I had a sub-par experience, but that was just me and overall has a very good rating from mongers on the forum who go there. Easy to find, number 121. Guessing the direction you will walk from, it will be on the right almost at the end of the road. You will see guys sitting / standing outside. There is a large '121' on the wall outside.
2) Kin. As Nordico says it is a little harder to find as it is down a little dead-end side street off Rua Joaquim Guarani called Travessa Libera Rivelino. It is on the opposite side of the road to Brooklin, on the left as you walk towards Brooklin. The side street is just before you come to the the Jehovah's Witnesses Kingdom Hall on the left. Sometimes there is a guy sat on a chair at the entrance to the side street but if not you should see the side street and a large sign that has '210' in red on it. The clinica is a few yards down the side street, the large house on the left. In my opinion Kin has improved significantly in recent years in terms of room quality and girl quality and is definitely worth checking out. I sessioned there earlier this year with a girl called Adriana. I can't remember the cost for sure but I think it was 200 reais for the hour?
3) Cancioneiro. I don't know this place as well as the other two as I have only been there a few times when Fernanda was working there. In my opinion the room quality and girl quality was not as good as Brooklin or Kin when I was there in February but has some good recent reviews on gpguia. Session cost was 200 reais per hour in February 2019.
In summary, all of the four clinicas are worth checking out as they are all with 10-15 minutes walk of the hotel and each other, each monger has different tastes and so what hits the spot for me may not for you and the rota of girls in the clinicas turnover regularly. One thing guaranteed, you will have fun.
Remember that these places service the local Brasileiro workers during the working day or a quick session before they go home to their wives so they open around 12 noon and close around 9 or 10 at night. They won't be open late into the night, you will need to travel further afield for that option. They close early on a Saturday and Sunday.
A new Metro station (Brooklin) has now opened nearby and if you are feeling adventurous you could take the lilac metro line to Moema where you have a whole new range of options: Red, Enjoy, Mirunas, Abbobora, Chanes, plus others I've probably forgotten. You could even venture further afield by taking the lilac line to Santa Cruz station where you can change to the Blue line and explore the clinicas located near to metro stations such as Ana Rosa, Praca the Avore, Santa Cruz, Saude, Sao Judas. To find out the options there you will need go look on gpguia and do some homework.
If you are here for the first time and want to hit the ground running fast with lots of local advice then make use of ABG. He will sort you out just fine.
FINALLY, please post reports. You don't have many posts and they are all asking for information but not providing any feedback, updates, info for others to make use off. Without this the forum dies as the people who do post helpful stuff will stop and the form will just become the place for irrelevant discussions and ego-fights between certain members.Excellent report. Thank you. I went to Espaco Morumbi a few times and there was only one or two fuckable girls there but I had fun (it's been years). Lately, I can't get past the 4-hand massage at Brooklin. I will come back someday and hit as many of these clinicas as I can. I will use this report.
Can anyone give an update on the train service between Guarulhos Airport and So Paulo? I have in past trips observed the progress in its construction. Has it been completed? Is it in use?
Can anyone give an update on the train service between Guarulhos Airport and So Paulo? I have in past trips observed the progress in its construction. Has it been completed? Is it in use?The train service is now running. I believe there is a bus that drives a circuit to the 3 terminals.
AltoBomGosto
06-29-19, 13:23
Can anyone give an update on the train service between Guarulhos Airport and So Paulo? I have in past trips observed the progress in its construction. Has it been completed? Is it in use?Yes, it's completed, you have an express train departing from Estação Luz and go directly to GRU airport, each half hour or normal trains with stopovers and change trains at estações BRAS and again in ENGENHEIRO GOULART. If you are a newcomer and don't speak Portuguese better take the direct train because the ordinary trains are overcrowded and going unto those trains with luggage and trying to find your way can be a difficult task.
But I still better take a bus http://www.airportbusservice.com.br/en/home Those buses take you to the main hotels in Downtown and Jardins area. Cost 39,00 reais.
GUARUCOOP taxi is the best alternative. They take you door to door. The fare from GRU to Jardins is 160,00 reais.
AltoBomGosto
06-29-19, 13:57
Yesterday I went to Tangara with a friend, 31 girls on the parade, many Curitiba girls, European style, my friend went with a red hair Paulistana, Monik, very nice and GFE, DFK, BBBJ / CIM.
I went with India, a native girl, with the Brazilian Indian ascendance. GFE, DFK, BBBJ, and CIM.
If you're looking for girls from southern Brasil in São Paulo, Tangara is the place.
ABG.
World Travel 69
06-29-19, 19:38
Here are a few Maps:
http://www.urbanrail.net/am/spau/sao-paulo.htm
https://saopaulomap360.com/sao-paulo-train-map#. XReuo_ZFyUk.
Can anyone give an update on the train service between Guarulhos Airport and So Paulo? I have in past trips observed the progress in its construction. Has it been completed? Is it in use?
World Travel 69
06-29-19, 19:54
Find the Big Map.
Here is a screen shot of Pinheiros.
But are you able to help me locate the best clinicas near the Pinheiros area? Just arrived and looking to bed some gorgeous Brazilian women this weekend. My type is big ass and big tits (surprise LOL). Thanks very much in advance.
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GUARUCOOP taxi is the best alternative. They take you door to door. The fare from GRU to Jardins is 160,00 reais.For info, the fare from GRU to Pinheiros is 150.00 reais.
Went to Clinica Cancioneiro today. My reason was reading about a 19 year old brunette with big tits called Amanda on gpguia working there. She wasn't in the line up in the early afternoon when I arrived but my attention was grabbed by another big titted brunette called Agatha (25 years old). Very cute and affectionate, we had a great time. 200 reais for the hour. Cancioneiro is not as well furnished as Brooklin but it does the job. Guy out front and the receptionist are both very friendly. Will probably try again during the week to see if Amanda is there, if not Agatha is the plan be.
To get to Cancioneiro on foot you would follow the route along Roque Petroni Junior until you come to the traffic lights with the sex shop on the corner where you would turn right and then second left for Joaquin Guarani and Brooklin / Kin. Instead cross over the main road and walk up the road then turn first right (there is new apartment block on the corner). Cancionerio is about 50 yards on te left with a larger sign with '88' visible and with a guy usually sat on a chair outside.
Stopped by Brooklin on the way home, it was very quiet with only 4 girls in the line up (I guess most were busy? I didn't stay around. For info, the price for one hour at Brooklin is 250 cash and 270 paying by card.
Next week I plan to hit the blue line!!
AltoBomGosto
06-30-19, 23:48
For info, the fare from GRU to Pinheiros is 150.00 reais.160 reais is to Brooklin.
ABG.
In an earlier post I was trying to remember the price per hour for Clinica Kin. I misremembered as 200. I was there today, chasing Fernanda who has moved there from Clinica Red. The price is 220 per hour if pay cash and 240 if pay by card. Like Brooklin you pay upfront.
Lineup seems Ok, if you like big bunda then go for Nicole, she has some serious booty.
AltoBomGosto
07-02-19, 01:21
Here are a few Maps:
http://www.urbanrail.net/am/spau/sao-paulo.htm
https://saopaulomap360.com/sao-paulo-train-map#. XReuo_ZFyUk.Unfortunately, none of the maps is actualized.
Unfortunately, none of the maps is actualized.http://www.metro.sp.gov.br/en/your-trip/index.aspx
I've been to Rio countless times but I'm just now planning to make a trip to São Paulo. Can someone point me to the top three places where I can find brown / honey complexsion chicks with big PHAT ASSES? Termas, office spots, help like clubs, etc. Thanks!
AltoBomGosto
07-02-19, 11:42
Yesterday I went to Tangara with a friend, 31 girls on the parade, many Curitiba girls, European style, my friend went with a red hair Paulistana, Monik, very nice and GFE, DFK, BBBJ / CIM.
I went with India, a native girl, with the Brazilian Indian ascendance. GFE, DFK, BBBJ, and CIM.
If you're looking for girls from southern Brasil in So Paulo, Tangara is the place.
ABG.Price 170 reais one hour in cash, 180 debit card, and 190 credit card. 120 reais 1/2 hour cash.
I've been to Rio countless times but I'm just now planning to make a trip to So Paulo. Can someone point me to the top three places where I can find brown / honey complexsion chicks with big PHAT ASSES? Termas, office spots, help like clubs, etc. Thanks!From the U.S.
AltoBomGosto
07-03-19, 14:43
I've been to Rio countless times but I'm just now planning to make a trip to So Paulo. Can someone point me to the top three places where I can find brown / honey complexion chicks with big PHAT ASSES? Termas, office spots, help like clubs, etc. Thanks!Mongman,
There is a girl that I know who will fulfill your desires, she's honey skin, Afro-descendant wit Brazilian Indian and Portuguese mixture.
PM me for details.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
07-03-19, 22:40
Clinica Yankin now run by mme Vaní, has a cute Nipo Brasileira.
Harine is her name.
15 girls at the house now. If you prefer a quieter clinic with the style of Tangara but not so crowded this will be your place. Most customers of this house are Asian descendants.
Please. PM me for details.
ABG.
Price is 230 per hour. Few girls on show when I arrived, I guess more were on their backs earning. The receptionist was the extremely cute. Left without sessioning.
Sad news, the 24 h Padaria Moema that was on Av. Miruna close to the clinica has closed down. This was good place for coffee and a sandwich before / after doing the deed.
Clinica Yankin now run by mme Van, has a cute Nipo Brasileira.
Harine is her name.
15 girls at the house now. If you prefer a quieter clinic with the style of Tangara but not so crowded this will be your place. Most customers of this house are Asian descendants.
Please. PM me for details.
ABG.Must be short for clinica "Yankin Off" hahaha!
Hi All.
First post on the SP forum but am on the Colombia page alot. This is my first trip to Brazil and trying to decide where to go. Have read the last 6 or 7 pages until I got to the AIDS posts and got bored. I do not speak any Portuguese so that is why I have been going to Colombia and last month Guadalajara Mx. I don't drink and am not a late night guy or loud club music. I have seen the massage places and the Clinacs? I am guessing go in view lineup pay fee get laid and leave? What about the bar Bomboa 202? Is that a restaurant bar with freelancers or something totally different. I appreciate any input or help you can give me.
AltoBomGosto
07-04-19, 20:00
Hi All.
First post on the SP forum but am on the Colombia page alot. This is my first trip to Brazil and trying to decide where to go. Have read the last 6 or 7 pages until I got to the AIDS posts and got bored. I do not speak any Portuguese so that is why I have been going to Colombia and last month Guadalajara Mx. I don't drink and am not a late night guy or loud club music. I have seen the massage places and the Clinacs? I am guessing go in view lineup pay fee get laid and leave? What about the bar Bomboa 202? Is that a restaurant bar with freelancers or something totally different. I appreciate any input or help you can give me.Bamboa is a boite, your profile is more a clinica, there are many good ones. PM me for details.
ABG.
Wusup fellas planning my first trip to São Paulo in November I booked an apartment but prefer hotels which seem to more girl friendly in the city. Also prefer outcalls to my place, will most girls come to private apartments or mainly hotels? Also which of any websites are pretty reliable? I've been looking at photoacomphamtes and see that have a verified photos filter has anyone had some good luck with this?. I know why'all going to say read the thread and I have some, but the only stupid question is the one not asked so I figured I give it a go. Any feed back appreciated.
GiuseppeBonera
07-09-19, 18:00
I just wanted to report a great experience I had yesterday on photosaccompanhantes with bruninha:https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/jardins/bruninha-baby-sou-uma-garota-pronta-para-te-levar-ao-delirio-id-hnbh8.
I was worried it was too good to be true because I had a bad experience before. But I saw she was verified and told her to meet in the lobby of the rennaisance. I waited at the door to see if she look like her pictures. She sent a what's up saying she would be arriving in a white jacket. Exactly like her picture! After she walked by I said Hi and got her registered at the front desk, the only negative part but the lady at the front desk was not apparently judging me. Anyway 1 hour 400 RS + 50 rs credit card fee and 20 rs Uber. Gave me a natural BJ and uphill from there. This garota is the real deal!
DreamCarnarvon
07-09-19, 19:40
Wusup fellas planning my first trip to So Paulo in November I booked an apartment but prefer hotels which seem to more girl friendly in the city. Also prefer outcalls to my place, will most girls come to private apartments or mainly hotels? Also which of any websites are pretty reliable? I've been looking at photoacomphantes and see that have a verified photos filter has anyone had some good luck with this?. I know why'all going to say read the thread and I have some, but the only stupid question is the one not asked so I figured I give it a go. Any feed back appreciated.I was in Sao Paulo recently and stayed in apartments. Out of the three girls I invited to my apartment, only one refused. The two girls who came over, I had met them the first time over at their place. When I invited them over, one accepted the invite without hesitation, the other I had use a bit of persuasion. The girl who didn't want to come was a first timer and we went to a motel instead.
I think you will have little to no problem getting girls to come over to your apartment if you have a bit of rapport with them. It would be harder to convince a girl who never met you in person. I think it is a matter of safety for the girls as their line of work is quite dangerous. Think assaults and robberies. It would also be in your best interest to meet the girls at a more secure place such a motel or at their place, at least for first time meetings.
As for photoacomphantes, it is a hit and miss. All three of the girls I mentioned above are from photoacomphantes and luckly they were all pretty good service wise. They were all the same person as on the photo but two of the three girls used photos of themselves when they were younger and skinnier. However, I have read reports about girls not matching the photos. So I would advice you to have an open mind with photoacomphantes girls and be cautious of girls with professionally done photos.
My suggestion is if its indeed your first time in Sao Paulo to go visit the many clinicas and nightclubs first. That way you will see the girls in person and then can make your decision. If you like a girl, you can then ask her for her whatsapp. Most girls will happily give it to you. Use photoacomphantes as a backup.
Enjoy your upcoming trip.
Steve 9696
07-10-19, 14:32
I just wanted to report a great experience I had yesterday on photosaccompanhantes with bruninha:https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/jardins/bruninha-baby-sou-uma-garota-pronta-para-te-levar-ao-delirio-id-hnbh8.
I was worried it was too good to be true because I had a bad experience before. But I saw she was verified and told her to meet in the lobby of the rennaisance. I waited at the door to see if she look like her pictures. She sent a what's up saying she would be arriving in a white jacket. Exactly like her picture! After she walked by I said Hi and got her registered at the front desk, the only negative part but the lady at the front desk was not apparently judging me. Anyway 1 hour 400 RS + 50 rs credit card fee and 20 rs Uber. Gave me a natural BJ and uphill from there. This garota is the real deal!Wow. Holy cow I don't know how I missed her. Thanks for the tip. I will definitely see her for a day visit (Boates at night.).
I was in Sao Paulo recently and stayed in apartments. Out of the three girls I invited to my apartment, only one refused. The two girls who came over, I had met them the first time over at their place. When I invited them over, one accepted the invite without hesitation, the other I had use a bit of persuasion. The girl who didn't want to come was a first timer and we went to a motel instead.
I think you will have little to no problem getting girls to come over to your apartment if you have a bit of rapport with them. It would be harder to convince a girl who never met you in person. I think it is a matter of safety for the girls as their line of work is quite dangerous. Think assaults and robberies. It would also be in your best interest to meet the girls at a more secure place such a motel or at their place, at least for first time meetings.
As for photoacomphantes, it is a hit and miss. All three of the girls I mentioned above are from photoacomphantes and luckly they were all pretty good service wise. They were all the same person as on the photo but two of the three girls used photos of themselves when they were younger and skinnier. However, I have read reports about girls not matching the photos. So I would advice you to have an open mind with photoacomphantes girls and be cautious of girls with professionally done photos.
My suggestion is if its indeed your first time in Sao Paulo to go visit the many clinicas and nightclubs first. That way you will see the girls in person and then can make your decision. If you like a girl, you can then ask her for her whatsapp. Most girls will happily give it to you. Use photoacomphantes as a backup.
Enjoy your upcoming trip.Thanks for all the great advice! Kinda sounds like the hotel might be the better option then. Also sounds like you do pretty well with freelancers at night clubs as well?
Wusup fellas planning my first trip to So Paulo in November I booked an apartment but prefer hotels which seem to more girl friendly in the city. Also prefer outcalls to my place, will most girls come to private apartments or mainly hotels? Also which of any websites are pretty reliable? I've been looking at photoacomphamtes and see that have a verified photos filter has anyone had some good luck with this?. I know why'all going to say read the thread and I have some, but the only stupid question is the one not asked so I figured I give it a go. Any feed back appreciated.In case of doubt for your guest who does not know you or not enough, the hotel always tends to reassure them more than an apart.
This is I imagine valid worldwide for girls. After that, make sure that the hotel in question is guest friendly or does not create too much hassle. In Sao Paulo I do not know enough.
On the other hand, the apartment if you know the language of the country and meet girls "live" gives you greater freedom and sometimes avoids judgment and a little shame in hotels for shy people like me.
Steve 9696
07-10-19, 18:00
Thanks for all the great advice! Kinda sounds like the hotel might be the better option then. Also sounds like you do pretty well with freelancers at night clubs as well?Dude if you have any coin at all do the Boates. Scandallo and Bomboa or even Casarao. These are nightclubs where the vibe is totally like going to a club and running your game and getting a girl. Except you don't need any game. Just $$. And the rooms are onsite so no hassle there. There could be 100 or more girls to choose. And they all want YOU!
Plan on USD $300 for a evening at Scandallo. (Drinks girl and room) Half that at Casarao and in between for Bomboa.
Of all the places I go worldwide (and those that read ISG know that is everywhere) the Boates of SP are my favorite.
Oh and even though my reports on same are dated by the time U go I will have a full up to date report out. Keep your eyes peeled over the next month and u will get detailed reports on all this and more.
Steve 9696
07-10-19, 19:47
Dude if you have any coin at all do the Boates. Scandallo and Bomboa or even Casarao. These are nightclubs where the vibe is totally like going to a club and running your game and getting a girl. Except you don't need any game. Just $$. And the rooms are onsite so no hassle there. There could be 100 or more girls to choose. And they all want YOU!
Plan on USD $300 for a evening at Scandallo. (Drinks girl and room) Half that at Casarao and in between for Bomboa.
Of all the places I go worldwide (and those that read ISG know that is everywhere) the Boates of SP are my favorite.
Oh and even though my reports on same are dated by the time U go I will have a full up to date report out. Keep your eyes peeled over the next month and u will get detailed reports on all this and more.Yeah that reminds me as DreamCarnavon says Brazileiras are very casual about meetups. Every girl I met in Scandalo and Casarao and Fazendinha gave me their number. And when I asked for pics they all sent them. And I had follow up dates with Carolina (wonderful!) and Thifany (mind blowing week in London). So yeah, the Boates are just the start of the relationship.
Dude if you have any coin at all do the Boates. Scandallo and Bomboa or even Casarao. These are nightclubs where the vibe is totally like going to a club and running your game and getting a girl. Except you don't need any game. Just $$. And the rooms are onsite so no hassle there. There could be 100 or more girls to choose. And they all want YOU!
Plan on USD $300 for a evening at Scandallo. (Drinks girl and room) Half that at Casarao and in between for Bomboa.
Of all the places I go worldwide (and those that read ISG know that is everywhere) the Boates of SP are my favorite.
Oh and even though my reports on same are dated by the time U go I will have a full up to date report out. Keep your eyes peeled over the next month and u will get detailed reports on all this and more.Thanks chief sounds dope! Def going to be all about that. That's why I'm here bugging why'all with questions, I appreciate it all.
A website mentioned Pinheiros. Should I stay near Paulista? Looking for nearby budget and value venues.
DreamCarnarvon
07-11-19, 17:03
Plan on USD $300 for a evening at Scandallo. (Drinks girl and room) Half that at Casarao and in between for Bomboa.
Of all the places I go worldwide (and those that read ISG know that is everywhere) the Boates of SP are my favorite.
Oh and even though my reports on same are dated by the time U go I will have a full up to date report out. Keep your eyes peeled over the next month and u will get detailed reports on all this and more.Just returned from my trip about a week ago and I'm already wanting to go back. Sadly I never gave any of SP's boates a try. Looking back, I kinda regretted a bit.
I'm looking forward to your reports of your upcoming trip. I'm definitely going to check out the boates the next time I'm in SP.
AltoBomGosto
07-12-19, 01:05
A website mentioned Pinheiros. Should I stay near Paulista? Looking for a nearby budget and value venues.Hotel like Ibis Budget on Av. Vergueiro is close to Av. Paulista and cheaper. www.decolar.com.br is a good website to choose your best hotel.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
07-12-19, 01:15
I went to the renewed Red way, Rua Machado de Assis, once one of the best lineups in São Paulo.
Best looking garotas, Bella, Beatriz, Lorraine, Carol, and Kelly.
I went with Bella, a BBW morena, excellent LFK, very good BBBJ / CIM.
1/2 hour = 50 reais. Luana the receptionist understands some English.
ABG.
Steve 9696
07-12-19, 01:59
A website mentioned Pinheiros. Should I stay near Paulista? Looking for nearby budget and value venues.Not really budget oriented but really all hotels in SP are ridiculously cheap. Anyhowbwhe I was deciding I chose Pinheiros. Lots of shops restaurants and cafes. And a bonus is Bomboa is walking distance from much of Pinheiros.
I was deciding I chose Pinheiros. Lots of shops restaurants and cafes. And a bonus is Bomboa is walking distance from much of Pinheiros.I stay in Pinheiros when in Sao Paulo. As you say, it has lots of shops and places to eat, but more so at the southern end of Pinheiros than the northern end and its close to Vila Madalena for even more restaurants.
There are also several metro stations on the yellow line in Pinheiros that will get you to other parts of the city. For example, Line 4 (Yellow) to Pinheiros, change to line 9 (Esmeralda) at Pinheiros and get off at Morumbi will take you to Brooklin, Kin, Cancioneiro, Espaco Morumbi (all within walking distance of the metro). Line 4 to Paulista then line 2 (green) to Ana Rosa then onto the line 1 (blue) for plenty more clinicas. Line 4 (Yellow) to Republica then line 3 (Red) to Carrao for the Tatuape clinicas.
There are now metro stations on the new Lilac line that will get you to the Moema Clinicas. Eucaliptos station is closest to most of them, but use Moema station for Clinica Red.
I went to the renewed Red way, Rua Machado de Assis, once one of the best lineups in So Paulo.Do you have a street address for Red Way, I can't find it on Google Maps.
Obrigado!
AltoBomGosto
07-13-19, 14:54
do you have a street address for red way, i can't find it on google maps.
Obrigado!Rua Machado de Assis 449.
Abg.
AltoBomGosto
07-14-19, 00:20
Yeah that reminds me as DreamCarnavon says Brazileiras are very casual about meetups. Every girl I met in Scandalo and Casarao and Fazendinha gave me their number. And when I asked for pics they all sent them. And I had follow up dates with Carolina (wonderful!) and Thifany (mind blowing week in London). So yeah, the Boates are just the start of the relationship.Don't forget Cafe photo!
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
07-14-19, 13:44
Gabriela at Tangará.
Very nice morena com luzes, from Belo Horizonte, 1,54 m, 20 yo. GFE, DFK, BBBJ & CIM. Did not ask for anal.
She came twice, I did it too! For more details PM me please.
ABG.
...........Of all the places I go worldwide (and those that read ISG know that is everywhere) the Boates of SP are my favorite............Have you been to German FKKs?
Don't forget Cafe photo!
ABG.Also consider some of the lesser mentioned as they look promising to me. The Connection Nightclub and Bahamas Hotel Club:
http://www.connectionvip.com.br/EN/
http://bahamashotelclub.com.br/
Steve 9696
07-15-19, 01:03
Have you been to German FKKs?Yes. I've been to Sharks, Oase, Palace and World. Also to Globe (widely considered the best) and Aphrodisia (not an FKK per se, but a competitor to same) in Switzerland and Goldentime in Austria. Don't get me wrong I LOVE FKK but I love the Boate more. I think it really has to do with the girls. Brasileiras are just a breed apart. And I guess it feels more real all around because you are "clubbing" with your clothes on. It's really like picking up girls. But with nearly zero chance of failure. Plus there is no "let's go to the room" pressure compared to FKK.
A few examples of how Brasileiras are different from last year (hope for even more this year!)
Karina. Scandallo. Spent 2 hrs (just chatting dancing and flirting before going to the room. And I am the one who suggested it! And then she tried to convince me to go to the beach with her and her friend the next day (I was too tired).
Carolina. Casarao. Had a great time. Got her WhatsApp and met the next night for drinks and a repeat skipped the club.
Thifany Fazendinha. Spent 5 hrs together including 2 in room. Agreed to fly to London and spend the week with me (and did)!
None of this would happen in FKK where it's pure business. Sure it's a ton of fun but it's sex and little else.
BTW A lot of this is these girls are part timers. Karina is married now (engaged a month after we were together). Thifany is engaged (6 months after we were together) and she is just soooo happy. I wish her the best. Maybe I should start a service because I am batting 2 for 3 with engagements following coupling with Steve! Haha!
Slightly OT but I am becoming more and more addicted to the REAL girlfriend experience beyond BBBJ and DFK — I mean texting each other and just laughing and “dating”. I’ve got a Seeking Arrangement girl in Buenas Aires lined up for three days and the chemistry is just electric and we haven’t met yet! It’s a whole different beast but highly recommended for those looking for connection beyond the bedroom. (My US experiences where we DID meet in person were quite solid — but this promises to be even better)
Steve 9696
07-15-19, 01:58
Slightly OT but I am becoming more and more addicted to the REAL girlfriend experience beyond BBBJ and DFK I mean texting each other and just laughing and dating. Ive got a Seeking Arrangement girl in Buenas Aires lined up for three days and the chemistry is just electric and we havent met yet! Its a whole different beast but highly recommended for those looking for connection beyond the bedroom. (My US experiences where we DID meet in person were quite solid but this promises to be even better)And I just now scored a "lunch plus more" date with a STUNNER in SP. Although there are quite a few nice SP girls on SA I had been holding off doing anything since the Options from Clinicas to Boates to repeats with last years girls are so numerous. But this girl is stunning. And studies in London so her English is great. So I am making. An exception and booking a date with her. I will still get plenty of Boate time.
Steve 9696
07-15-19, 03:46
Don't forget Cafe photo!
ABG.Refresh me on Cafe Photo. How is it like Bomboa or Scandallo or how is it different. I got the vibe it might be a bit pass? Carolina said she used to get 1000 R there so at one point it was all that.
What is the current scoop? And pricing. Scandallo like? Bomboa like? Other? We
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