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Refresh me on Cafe Photo. How is it like Bomboa or Scandallo or how is it different. I got the vibe it might be a bit pass? Carolina said she used to get 1000 R there so at one point it was all that.It use to be a big deal. The top dog and most expensive boate in SP about 20 years ago. Some of the girls were allegedly models and this and that.
It seemed to get into trouble over time and Scandallo surpassed its shine. It's strange that it's still open, but rarely mentioned here.
Slightly OT but I am becoming more and more addicted to the REAL girlfriend experience beyond BBBJ and DFK I mean texting each other and just laughing and dating. Ive got a Seeking Arrangement girl in Buenas Aires lined up for three days and the chemistry is just electric and we havent met yet! Its a whole different beast but highly recommended for those looking for connection beyond the bedroom. (My US experiences where we DID meet in person were quite solid but this promises to be even better)I forget Steve 9696. Have you told us your approximate age? I think some youth helps mongers establish "girlfriend experiences".
I remember when I was in my 30's / early 40's the working girls liked to hang out and it was easy to turn an encounter into an overnight session or a multiday affair. Lots of drinking, dancing, cultural stuff and the beach. There were also plenty of opportunity to hook-up with civilian girls in the right venues.
Many of the working girls would seem to grow a genuine fondness for me and vice versa. Of course, I realize many of the girls might have had uneventful lives. Foreign men with means and some youth would drop in and provide them some excitement.
This actually made me feel somewhat invincible. I would offer a girl back at the apartment an opportunity to hang out, make more money, etc. Some girls would just want their money and to go home. So haha, not every Brasileira found me irresistible back in the day.
What's a better area in the boards opinion, Morumbi or Moema? I have 2 reservations one at an apartment in Moema and one in Hilton Mourmbi. If I read the Hilton is guest friendly which is the original reason I booked the apartment in the first place, thinking it may be easy to bring guess to the apartment then I read the ladies are a bit timid about coming to apartments so I'm leaning toward Hilton Morumbi but would like why'all opinion.
What's a better area in the boards opinion, Morumbi or Moema? I have 2 reservations one at an apartment in Moema and one in Hilton Mourmbi. If I read the Hilton is guest friendly which is the original reason I booked the apartment in the first place, thinking it may be easy to bring guess to the apartment then I read the ladies are a bit timid about coming to apartments so I'm leaning toward Hilton Morumbi but would like why'all opinion.Moema is better in my opinion. From my experience, Morumbi is a bit out of the way due to the Sao Paulo traffic.
DreamCarnarvon
07-15-19, 22:19
What's a better area in the boards opinion, Morumbi or Moema? I have 2 reservations one at an apartment in Moema and one in Hilton Mourmbi. If I read the Hilton is guest friendly which is the original reason I booked the apartment in the first place, thinking it may be easy to bring guess to the apartment then I read the ladies are a bit timid about coming to apartments so I'm leaning toward Hilton Morumbi but would like why'all opinion.I agree with WyattEarp that you should stay in Moema. Moema is more centrally located and its one of the nicer and more upscale neighborhoods of SP. There are several clinicas and boates in the area, which is a plus. If I had the budget, Moema would be one of my top choice to stay in SP.
GiuseppeBonera
07-16-19, 01:28
It use to be a big deal. The top dog and most expensive boate in SP about 20 years ago. Some of the girls were allegedly models and this and that..I read in another post Cafe foto has different rules than Bamboa or Scandallo. What would those be?
Steve 9696
07-16-19, 02:16
I forget Steve 9696. Have you told us your approximate age? I think some youth helps mongers establish "girlfriend experiences".
I remember when I was in my 30's / early 40's the working girls liked to hang out and it was easy to turn an encounter into an overnight session or a multiday affair. Lots of drinking, dancing, cultural stuff and the beach. There were also plenty of opportunity to hook-up with civilian girls in the right venues.
Many of the working girls would seem to grow a genuine fondness for me and vice versa. Of course, I realize many of the girls might have had uneventful lives. Foreign men with means and some youth would drop in and provide them some excitement.
This actually made me feel somewhat invincible. I would offer a girl back at the apartment an opportunity to hang out, make more money, etc. Some girls would just want their money and to go home. So haha, not every Brasileira found me irresistible back in the day.So I am in my fifties but have most of my hair and am slim and in reasonable shape, so probably your above average 50's dude. Still no illusions. I think girls can be OK with how I look, but enjoy my company and see past my age with the promise of some dollars to soften the blow.
Basically I am not too objectionable looking, a ton of fun, and have $ to boot. I suspect they also feel my vibe — and that is I have mad respect for WGs and treat them with respect and tenderness. Women are very perceptive and I'm sure this vibe shows through.
Anyhow whatever it is is working pretty well! Just trying to keep all my SA chats straight! And looking forward to SP!
Oh and Bianca my recent SP find was a total bust. She wanted $500 USD for our date! LOL. OMG and other acronyms! What universe does she live in? This is SP not LA!
Polyamorist
07-16-19, 03:57
Plus there is no "let's go to the room" pressure compared to FKK.
No room pressure at all? A Scandallo girl once said to me, "I have a medical operation in a week and no money for it. I have to get a bus home and I don't have money for that either. I didn't do a session all day and I can't even pay my way out of the club. You're my last chance. I'll make you a special deal, 300 reals for the hour. ".
That is what I call Olympic-level room pressure. Any guy with a functioning heart would have broken down in tears and handed over his wallet no-questions-asked. As for me, I moved on. Too many years mongering I guess.
Anyway, my point is: Scandallo is really a mix of girl types. There are girls who are into room pressure. There are girls who don't seem interested in rooms at all but just try to cadge drinks and snacks off you constantly -- they are the biggest waste of space. But also certainly there are girls who are the Real Deal and will enjoy talking to you for hours and have smoking sex and also want to meet afterwards. They are what makes the club worthwhile, and indeed a superior option to most FKKs as you point out Habibi Steve.
HarvestBoi
07-16-19, 04:06
Moema is better by a long shot imo. I stayed at the Hilton in morumbi and while it's a great hotel, the immediate neighborhood is kinda sterile and a bit far away from the main action (Tangara, Scandallo, Bomboa etc). There are a couple of clinicas nearby (Brookli, Oro) But I was disappointed in Brooklin and I don't think you'll find anything in Morumbi that you can't find elsewhere. I do think the Hilton would impress most garotas but moema is much more the real Brazil. If it were me? I'the book the apartment and maybe hire ABG to help navigate the security outcall situation if needed.
What's a better area in the boards opinion, Morumbi or Moema? I have 2 reservations one at an apartment in Moema and one in Hilton Mourmbi. If I read the Hilton is guest friendly which is the original reason I booked the apartment in the first place, thinking it may be easy to bring guess to the apartment then I read the ladies are a bit timid about coming to apartments so I'm leaning toward Hilton Morumbi but would like why'all opinion..
If it were me? I would book the apartment and maybe hire ABG to help navigate the security outcall situation if needed.And if it were me, I would book a hotel in Moema (best of both situations in my book), do my research, and save my money for other uses by being my own navigator. It's easy, and for me more enjoyable to go exploring on my own.
RonhinCruz
07-16-19, 21:03
It looks like I will be visiting Sampa for 4 nights for final round interviews for a job in Pinheiros. I have been RTFF for awhile. If I do end up taking the job it is likely I will have a year before the family joins. 1 year of complete freedom to experience the local scene. I am trying to put together an itinerary for my trip to sample as much as possible in those 4 nights on a budget of about 800 reals and based in Pinheiros with limited travel time. I speak no Portuguese (yet). So ease and time efficiency are important. I am pretty omniverous sexually and lije everything from the gem value find to an occasional premium. I prefer GFE and attitude and no plastic. I will take that over a "10" or "19 year old" any day. Doesn't sound like I have to make that trade off here! I have never visited Brazil but have mongered in Korea, El Salvador, Costa Rica and the US.
I would love to hit a value clinica, strong clinical and maybe casanarao or a strong dupla. (I am thinking of saving the Scandallo experience for if and when I am there). Recommendations from the regulars? Casanarao, Brooklin and some value clinica? Maybe a recommended escort instead? I will report!
What's a better area in the boards opinion, Morumbi or Moema? I have 2 reservations one at an apartment in Moema and one in Hilton Mourmbi. If I read the Hilton is guest friendly which is the original reason I booked the apartment in the first place, thinking it may be easy to bring guess to the apartment then I read the ladies are a bit timid about coming to apartments so I'm leaning toward Hilton Morumbi but would like why'all opinion.Given the choices, there is no choice. Moema. Closer to everything you're looking for and easy to Uber in and out of during the day.
My personal preference is Alameda Santos, Bela Cintra, Jardins. But that is also just personal preference since I'm not much a Clinica guy. Independents for me thanks.
I just wanted to report a great experience I had yesterday on photosaccompanhantes with bruninha:https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/jardins/bruninha-baby-sou-uma-garota-pronta-para-te-levar-ao-delirio-id-hnbh8.
I was worried it was too good to be true because I had a bad experience before. But I saw she was verified and told her to meet in the lobby of the rennaisance. I waited at the door to see if she look like her pictures. She sent a what's up saying she would be arriving in a white jacket. Exactly like her picture! After she walked by I said Hi and got her registered at the front desk, the only negative part but the lady at the front desk was not apparently judging me. Anyway 1 hour 400 RS + 50 rs credit card fee and 20 rs Uber. Gave me a natural BJ and uphill from there. This garota is the real deal!As long as they look discrete and civilian, there really is no reason to "register" them. She's simply a friend.
I was at the Renaissance this weekend and my girl and I simply walk in and we are done. Or she walks in alone. NBD.
I did see them give one guy a hard time about 5:00 am Sunday when he tried to get in with two GPS who looked like street walkers. Completely out of place for that hotel. Gente sem noção.
Job Reach.
AltoBomGosto
07-17-19, 12:15
It looks like I will be visiting Sampa for 4 nights for final round interviews for a job in Pinheiros. I have been RTFF for awhile. If I do end up taking the job it is likely I will have a year before the family joins. 1 year of complete freedom to experience the local scene. I am trying to put together an itinerary for my trip to sample as much as possible in those 4 nights on a budget of about 800 reals and based in Pinheiros with limited travel time. I speak no Portuguese (yet). So ease and time efficiency are important. I am pretty omniverous sexually and lije everything from the gem value find to an occasional premium. I prefer GFE and attitude and no plastic. I will take that over a "10" or "19 year old" any day. Doesn't sound like I have to make that trade off here! I have never visited Brazil but have mongered in Korea, El Salvador, Costa Rica and the US.
I would love to hit a value clinica, strong clinical and maybe casanarao or a strong dupla. (I am thinking of saving the Scandallo experience for if and when I am there). Recommendations from the regulars? Casanarao, Brooklin and some value clinica? Maybe a recommended escort instead? I will report!There is not much to do in Pinheiros, I recommend you stay in Paraiso, near to Av Paulista and largo Ana Rosa.
PM me.
ABG.
Polyamorist
07-17-19, 15:25
I would love to hit a value clinica, strong clinical and maybe casanarao or a strong dupla. (I am thinking of saving the Scandallo experience for if and when I am there). Recommendations from the regulars? Casanarao, Brooklin and some value clinica?I could give you a couple of recommendations, but why believe me when you have data?
http://www.gp-guia.net/forum2015/viewforum.php?listby=date&f=8
You can see the price and BBBJ / DFK rates for each clinica based on many thousands of forum reports. For example, right away you can see that at Brooklin about 85% of the sessions include kissing while at Kahunas it appears to be less than 20%. Nevertheless (for some reason) less than 5% of guys marked their visit to Kahunas as "negative".
Some caveats about this data:
1. The "anal" and "oral" columns appear to be currently mixed up on this page. The real order is Oral / Anal / Kissing.
2. The price listed is for forum members. As a tourist you might have to pay more.
3. There is a bias for forum members to mark their visits as positive because they are given discounts. Consequently, figures are exaggerated.
4. Figures are also exaggerated because they only represent people who have written reports. If a tourist goes in, gets ripped off, and writes no report, his experience is not represented in this data. I also think a lot of quiet Asian locals get worse treatment here and write nothing about it. So, for example the 85% figure for Brooklin might not be accurate. It might be more like 50% overall. (My own experience is closer to 85%, but I take special care.).
Despite these caveats, I think this data is useful for comparative purposes. For example, the reported DFK rate at Yankin is only about 67%, and this matches my own experience so I don't go to Yankin any more.
The significance of this data goes beyond the technical quality of the sessions. If there's a high percentage of girls in a clinica turning down basic stuff like DFK and BBBJ, that could indicate they are unhappy in their jobs. We should not patronize any establishment where the workers are unhappy.
Here is the same list but for prives:
http://www.gp-guia.net/forum2015/viewforum.php?listby=date&f=9
Guys here often ask what the difference is between a clinica and a prive. Well, the set-up is basically the same, but from this data you can see that the prives are cheaper and have worse service rates.
Given the choices, there is no choice. Moema. Closer to everything you're looking for and easy to Uber in and out of during the day.
My personal preference is Alameda Santos, Bela Cintra, Jardins. But that is also just personal preference since I'm not much a Clinica guy. Independents for me thanks.Thanks I'll probably look for a hotel in Moema or Jardíand like one of the other fellas says he likes. The apartment I booked on booking.com looks cool but no safe and bed is only a double. Thanks for the input from what I read on the board moema looks like where I should be. Thanks again.
GiuseppeBonera
07-18-19, 03:52
So went to Cafe photo last night since I was curious. Was not expecting to session as I had to work but stuff happens. I liked the idea of the girls not coming to me so I can chill and check out the talent. 150 to get in. For a Tuesday not bad with probably 50 girls an significantly less guys. I am very particular but found a Morena exactly my type. She quoted 900 rs I got here down to 800 rs no time limit at my hotel. She stayed with me for about 2.5 hours. One of the best I had. Will likely try Scandallo next week.
SnarkHunter
07-18-19, 03:54
It looks like I'll be staying close to Bomboa at Hotel Mercure (Pinheiros). I'll be in town for about five or six nights on a work trip, with what will likely be an attentive local host who will be hyper-scheduling my time and a few business colleagues who will want to hang out with me, and I don't want any of them to know anything about my recreational activities. My guess is that I'll be able to have two or three adventures, but timing could be tight, and I might have to jump on short notice, without being able to schedule it in advance. I really don't know how much "alone time" I'm going to have.
It's my first time in the country. I'm lousy at navigating public transportation, and won't have the time to get lost, so I'm not keen on leaving Pinheiros.
So, a few questions.
1. Is there a clinica near that area? There's something called Clinica Caribe, but I searching the forum hasn't turned up any reports. (Are all clinicas monger friendly, or are some just for legit massages? And is it like AMPS, where you signal your extracurricular intentions in various established signs? If so, how?
2. If I found someone at Bomboa, would it make sense to bring her to my regular room at Mercure? Has anyone brought a provider to that hotel? (If my room is adjacent to my colleagues, I won't do this.).
3. I don't understand the fee structure at Bomboa or other clubs. Is it that you pay around 250 reals as a cover charge that you can then somehow exchange for food / drink? If so, can I use that fund to buy drinks for the girls?
4. Typically, if you want more time with a provider than an hour (say 90 minutes or 2 hours), how does that typically affect cost?
I'm not big into the club scene, though I understand it is special in SP and I should try to experience it at least once. Also, I'm relatively picky, and a little concerned that the clinica route might be uninspiring. Not knowing the language or landscape, the indie route has its share of concerns as well.
I've been reading the forum diligently and appreciate your insights.
RonhinCruz
07-19-19, 04:25
I could give you a couple of recommendations, but why believe me when you have data?
http://www.gp-guia.net/forum2015/viewforum.php?listby=date&f=8
You can see the price and BBBJ / DFK rates for each clinica based on many thousands of forum reports. For example, right away you can see that at Brooklin about 85% of the sessions include kissing while at Kahunas it appears to be less than 20%. Nevertheless (for some reason) less than 5% of guys marked their visit to Kahunas as "negative".
Some caveats about this data:
1. The "anal" and "oral" columns appear to be currently mixed up on this page. The real order is Oral / Anal / Kissing.
2. The price listed is for forum members. As a tourist you might have to pay more.
3. There is a bias for forum members to mark their visits as positive because they are given discounts. Consequently, figures are exaggerated..Funny enough I am data scientist Given all your caveats about the data I think your recommendations and others in this forum may be just as good. However, thanks for the link. I just got confirmation of my trip. I expect to be staying in hotel Mercure as well and have a full day Saturday. So any specific recommendations are appreciated. I am so looking forward to seeing Sampa girls in action.
Has anyone used this service? The women look amazing, but photos can be decieving. Its on the home page of the gpguia site I am trying to register on.
https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/jardins
Has anyone used this service? The women look amazing, but photos can be decieving. Its on the home page of the gpguia site I am trying to register on.
https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/jardinsIt's a legit site. But the photos are touched up.
If you find someone you're interested in look for their Twitter. Or just WhatsApp them and ask for the Twitter link.
CharmingIL
07-19-19, 16:58
It's one of the best and most trustlabe websites in Sao Paulo. Obviously the pics must have some photoshop treatment but the girls are all verified.
Has anyone used this service? The women look amazing, but photos can be decieving. Its on the home page of the gpguia site I am trying to register on.
https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/jardins
Steve 9696
07-19-19, 18:18
It looks like I'll be staying close to Bomboa at Hotel Mercure (Pinheiros). I'll be in town for about five or six nights on a work trip, with what will likely be an attentive local host who will be hyper-scheduling my time and a few business colleagues who will want to hang out with me, and I don't want any of them to know anything about my recreational activities. My guess is that I'll be able to have two or three adventures, but timing could be tight, and I might have to jump on short notice, without being able to schedule it in advance. I really don't know how much "alone time" I'm going to have.
It's my first time in the country. I'm lousy at navigating public transportation, and won't have the time to get lost, so I'm not keen on leaving Pinheiros.
So, a few questions.
1. Is there a clinica near that area? There's something called Clinica Caribe, but I searching the forum hasn't turned up any reports. (Are all clinicas monger friendly, or are some just for legit massages? And is it like AMPS, where you signal your extracurricular intentions in various established signs? If so, how?
2. If I found someone at Bomboa, would it make sense to bring her to my regular room at Mercure? Has anyone brought a provider to that hotel? (If my room is adjacent to my colleagues, I won't do this.).
3. I don't understand the fee structure at Bomboa or other clubs. Is it that you pay around 250 reals as a cover charge that you can then somehow exchange for food / drink? If so, can I use that fund to buy drinks for the girls?
4. Typically, if you want more time with a provider than an hour (say 90 minutes or 2 hours), how does that typically affect cost?
I'm not big into the club scene, though I understand it is special in SP and I should try to experience it at least once. Also, I'm relatively picky, and a little concerned that the clinica route might be uninspiring. Not knowing the language or landscape, the indie route has its share of concerns as well.
I've been reading the forum diligently and appreciate your insights.As to clinicas near the Mercure not really. BUT Uber is super cheap here. An hour ride from the airport was under $20. So just hop an Uber and don't sweat it.
My preference is the Boates and U cannot go wrong with BomBoa which is literally a three minute walk from the Mercure. The entry is R270 and they give you a little wristband with a number. Each time u order they make you sign and they note ur number. Yes it is credited against the 270 but it goes pretty quickly. Drinks are R50 and if you get a mixer it's another R20. So R70 for a JAck and coke. Totally worth it tho. So much eye candy you won't know what to do. Oh and the food is excellent and not that expensive. I had a really nice Salmon and it was R85. Would surely be more in a restaurant.
As to the room, you could walk to the Mercure. But the on-site rooms are only R190 and very convenient. Great mirrors on ceiling and walls. Worth it to me. Get your girls number if you really like her and have her to your hotel for a longer session the next day.
As far as service and time you need to negotiate beforehand. You can use google translate. I didn't discuss service with my first girl and got CBJ (boo) and my second we discussed BBBJ and CIM ahead. I have a small advantage speaking some Portuguese but I am sure google translate will work.
Full report forthcoming but hopefully this helps for now.
Steve 9696
07-19-19, 19:31
So went to Cafe photo last night since I was curious. Was not expecting to session as I had to work but stuff happens. I liked the idea of the girls not coming to me so I can chill and check out the talent. 150 to get in. For a Tuesday not bad with probably 50 girls an significantly less guys. I am very particular but found a Morena exactly my type. She quoted 900 rs I got here down to 800 rs no time limit at my hotel. She stayed with me for about 2.5 hours. One of the best I had. Will likely try Scandallo next week.Is Cafe Photo that pricey or was it just the length of time. I did have a Casarao girl last year tell me she used to charge 1000 at Cafe Photo. Seems so high. My datapoints so far (and I'm sure there are those that will accuse me of overpaying) are:
Scandallo 700. Bomboa 2 at 600 and 1 at 500. All were super good looking 8.5+ material.
It looks like I'll be staying close to Bomboa at Hotel Mercure (Pinheiros). I'll be in town for about five or six nights on a work trip, with what will likely be an attentive local host who will be hyper-scheduling my time and a few business colleagues who will want to hang out with me, and I don't want any of them to know anything about my recreational activities. My guess is that I'll be able to have two or three adventures, but timing could be tight, and I might have to jump on short notice, without being able to schedule it in advance. I really don't know how much "alone time" I'm going to have.
It's my first time in the country. I'm lousy at navigating public transportation, and won't have the time to get lost, so I'm not keen on leaving Pinheiros.
So, a few questions.
1. Is there a clinica near that area? There's something called Clinica Caribe, but I searching the forum hasn't turned up any reports. (Are all clinicas monger friendly, or are some just for legit massages? And is it like AMPS, where you signal your extracurricular intentions in various established signs? If so, how?.1- Clinica Caribe has been renamed to "Clinica Paulista", still in the same place. Did you signup at Gpguia? Look for "CLínica Paulista (ex- Caribe, ex-La Isla)"
2- Nope, just use the hotel right in the same building. I advise against this conduct of "bring the girl to your place.
3- Yup, you can use the funds to pay for drinks for everyone, not just girls.
4- Well, just choose the girl, ask for the price and "I want to 2 hours with you, how much it costs for me? Sometimes the girls will double the rate, sometimes 75%. Treat her well, and she will treat you right.
"Clinicas" is a good route for anyone concerned about security. "Boates" you will be OK inside. Outside not so much.
Hope it helps.
It's one of the best and most trustlabe websites in Sao Paulo. Obviously the pics must have some photoshop treatment but the girls are all verified.Ok I found a very cute one sasha in Jardins, actually loads but only messaged one and she wants 400 Real an hour so about $100 usd but she is so hot. It seems expensive for SP but wow so I will think about it.
CharmingIL
07-20-19, 01:52
It's the average price for Sao Paulo actually.
You can also find good ones for better prices at www.photoacompanhantes.com/ but then you got to be careful because there are plenty of scammers and fake ones in this website, so you got to do an good search.
Ok I found a very cute one sasha in Jardins, actually loads but only messaged one and she wants 400 Real an hour so about $100 usd but she is so hot. It seems expensive for SP but wow so I will think about it.
DreamCarnarvon
07-20-19, 03:04
The entry is R270 and they give you a little wristband with a number. Each time u order they make you sign and they note ur number. Yes it is credited against the 270 but it goes pretty quickly.
As to the room, you could walk to the Mercure. But the on-site rooms are only R190 and very convenient. Great mirrors on ceiling and walls. Worth it to me. Get your girls number if you really like her and have her to your hotel for a longer session the next day.
As far as service and time you need to negotiate beforehand. You can use google translate. I didn't discuss service with my first girl and got CBJ (boo) and my second we discussed BBBJ and CIM ahead. I have a small advantage speaking some Portuguese but I am sure google translate will work.
Full report forthcoming but hopefully this helps for now.Damn, that's quite expensive for Brazilian standards. If my math is correct, that's R460 right off the bat even before I get see the girl naked. That would more than cover a one hour session at 4 x4 or 3-4 sessions at clinicas / casa de massagems. I wouldn't go here on a normal basis, maybe once a week at the most.
The CBJ move by your first girl was definitely shady. I'd be OK with CBJ if it was a clinica girl. But for such a high end place, I wouldn't accept anything less than a complete service. Just goes to show you can't assume things even with the Brasileiras, especially at these high end places.
Looking forward to your full report. I have a good feeling its going to be great.
Is Cafe Photo that pricey or was it just the length of time. I did have a Casarao girl last year tell me she used to charge 1000 at Cafe Photo. Seems so high. My datapoints so far (and I'm sure there are those that will accuse me of overpaying) are: Scandallo 700. Bomboa 2 at 600 and 1 at 500. All were super good looking 8.5+ material.A price of 700 is too high, even for Scandallo. Should be more in line with 500 to 600. Went with a really gorgeous scandallo girl who started out asking for 800 (said that's what Japanese guys were paying her). Do I look Japanese to you LOL? We went up for 600, but I also had some 500 sessions with other hotties. One girl went as low as 400 (and invited me to go to a swing club in Moema with her). I declined on both counts as she was not my type, and definitely no more than a 6 (thus the lower asking price). You will pay less at the clinicas for sure. A lot less. But then, the girls at the clinicas aren't as hot. According to my tastes they on average just don't look as good. I have the clinica optics average at a 6 (just below my required minimum 7), whereas per my tastes the night boites average is an 8.
Eszpresszo
07-20-19, 13:31
It's the average price for Sao Paulo actually.That would be about twice the average price, based on my actual, recent experience.
SnarkHunter
07-20-19, 17:56
Did you signup at Gpguia? Look for "Clinica Paulista (ex- Caribe, ex-La Isla)" Thank you for your insights.
Regarding Gpguia.net, I don't speak / read Portuguese, and so it seems of limited practicality to me, unless there is something I'm missing. Are there any sites like that in English?
Damn, that's quite expensive for Brazilian standards.There isn't just one Brazilian standard. Most of the clients are Brazilians who can afford it.
If my math is correct, that's R460 right off the bat even before I get see the girl naked.
270 is for the drinks, food, the band and the house. It wouldn't be very good business plan to offer all that free. They have rents and salaries to pay. It also helps to keep wrong kind of people out.
CharmingIL
07-20-19, 23:31
Depends, depends. You can find girls in all prices. But in big websites like clubmodel.com.br and splove.com.br mostly good girls are charging this price. Between 300/400/500.
That would be about twice the average price, based on my actual, recent experience.
Thank you for your insights.
Regarding Gpguia.net, I don't speak / read Portuguese, and so it seems of limited practicality to me, unless there is something I'm missing. Are there any sites like that in English?Use Chrome with the google translate plugin.
SnarkHunter
07-21-19, 02:20
Use Chrome with the google translate plugin.Obrigado! Very helpful.
Steve 9696
07-21-19, 13:46
So I landed late evening and the plan was to do both Bomboa and Scandallo. I'd have dinner at Bomboa and then hit Scandallo at midnight when it peaks. But as usual the best laid plans.
So I did start at Bomboa which is quite nearby. On arrival I paid the R270 fee and got my numbered wristband. They said "English?" and I said yes and they assigned me an English speaking maitre D and he was awesome the whole night. So attentive. All about customer service. Imagine Ricardo Montalband and Fantasy island. He's that guy.
At the time I entered the club -- maybe 830 - probably 50 girls and way less guys. All pretty in their own way but I have a certain type. By midnight I'd say there were over a hundred girls there.
So he puts me at a table and I run into another friendly guy right next to me and I kinda becomen his wingman since he speaks no Portugus. We decide to get a bottle of Malbec even though it's more expensive than by the glass so we can share it with girls. R400.
Of course all the girls give some eye contact but some are persistent. There is one latina with some black in her just giving me the constant stare while I sip. I keep having to avoid locking eyes. She is quite pretty but I am not ready yet. It's very distracting as I try to talk with my new friend.
Just sitting and sipping our Malbec when two girlfriends sit down with us.
The one that sits with me is so OMG my type that I am actually a little disappointed. Because I know I will go with her but was looking forward to the garota buffet. Jim's girl is not his type and she eventually moves on.
Rather than rush things and I have not eaten yet, I order the Salmon. It's really top notch and a reasonable R85. Just me my salmon my Malbec my girl and tons of eye candy. Ahhhhhh. Doesn't suck.
So after dinner I decide I will take my hottie up to the room and meet back with Jim later. She had asked 800 and we agreed 700. (Please spare me the I overpaid comments. I am still very happy with the price, tho I should have negotiated services.) More on this later.
You end up checking out at the front and go to the hotel next door. My bill was R540 with the wine and the Salmon. I gave Ricardo a tip but apparently you can't do this in full view. He had to give it to the club -- he coached me on this later.
So off Micela and I go to the hotel. It is literally 30 ft away. We stop for a smoke break which is nice and casual. Then up the stairs and pay the R190 hotel fee. Nice rooms. Big clean beds. Mirrors everywhere. Shower of course. Nice high end facility.
Once in the room I shower but she does not (? Doesn't bother me) And we start with some DFK. She is a strong kisser and it's very nice. I help her out of her dress and OMG she has a serious rack. She had it constrained by a bustier, but wow. Serious natural DD cups on a petite frame and lovely to play with. She informs me they are real to which I can only reply -- duh I know I have my hands on them right now!
So a nice slow start and we head to some BJ. She's got the condom out but I am waving her off. Even with sign language she clearly knows what I am saying but she is like sorry have to use it. OK that crossed her off my repeat list. Shame. She is a lovely girl.
I have to say we had super nice pussy fit in all positions. Did some DATY and 69 but still with condom. Boo. The hotel condom was lame so At some point we ditched it for my Okamoto 01. This was a ton better but still no chance of cumming without the BBBJ either before or after. I tried again for a by mouth finish but no dice.
So I ask her to roll on her back and I put her hand on her pussy. She gets the hint and starts working it. Some nice tight circles on her clit and quite a bit of finger in and out. It's very sexy and you can tell she is getting off.
I work myself by hand and looking at that work of art in front of me and bam bam a satisfying finish.
She showers alone (again a little disappointing) and I shower and we pack up. I do write her a little note on Google translate and say to have a girlfriend I see multiple times I need BBBJ. She says OK it was just this first time. From now on without. But she's kinda already killed my infatuation with the fact she went covered and would not back off. Do no plan to repeat with her.
That is OK. My next girl turns out to be every thing Micela was not. Still had a nice time and left plenty satisfied. Stay tuned.
You can do the same with whatsapp and set google translate to tap to translate, everytime you copy a message the google translate button come up in the corner, I hit that it opens translate, the I do new message, talk to text hit copy and paste the message. I have used it only in Colombia / equcador but it seems to do the same for portugese. It is very helpful.
Obrigado! Very helpful.
GiuseppeBonera
07-22-19, 02:38
Is Cafe Photo that pricey or was it just the length of time. I did have a Casarao girl last year tell me she used to charge 1000 at Cafe Photo. Seems so high. My datapoints so far (and I'm sure there are those that will accuse me of overpaying) are:
Scandallo 700. Bomboa 2 at 600 and 1 at 500. All were super good looking 8.5+ material.Yeah I was talking to her yesterday and she said that she goes there because they can charge more however she did not give me a time limit.
HarvestBoi
07-22-19, 04:49
Steve,
Yeah that maitre'd is a bit of a pain in the ass. I had much the same experience and I was always a bit suspicious about giving him a tip in the kitchen or john but at the end of the day he was semi-useful and does make you feel like a baller. Next time at Bomboa I'd say nao obrigado tho.
But 700 for CBJ? Dude, you are losing your edge. I paid 600 for full on GFE including photos with my mulatta. I'll give you a mulligan because those garotas can cause a guy to lose his equilibrium, especially since you just got off the plane. Like you I'the just assume a girl would provide full GFE services. That she semi-scammed you, along with Ricardo's act makes me think Bomboa is seeing more than it's share of tourists. The cheesy Top 40 cover band is another tip off. Still I liked the overall vibe of the place and will return.
Look forward, as always, to your reports on Scandallo.
But 700 for CBJ? Dude, you are losing your edge. I paid 600 for full on GFE including photos with my mulatta. I'll give you a mulligan because those garotas can cause a guy to lose his equilibrium, especially since you just got off the plane. Like you I'the just assume a girl would provide full GFE services. That she semi-scammed you, along with Ricardo's act makes me think Bomboa is seeing more than it's share of tourists.The key is to ask for what you want up front (which he said he did not do) and negotiate. If the girl is all for it, great! And if not, then you have to decide how much you want her, and how much you're ready for some specific thing, such as BBBJ / CIM, anal, etc.
Ok I found a very cute one sasha in Jardins, actually loads but only messaged one and she wants 400 Real an hour so about $100 usd but she is so hot. It seems expensive for SP but wow so I will think about it.Not expensive, since you go to her place (flat). It's the price.
So I landed late evening and the plan was to do both Bomboa and Scandallo. I'd have dinner at Bomboa and then hit Scandallo at midnight when it peaks. But as usual the best laid plans.
She showers alone (again a little disappointing) and I shower and we pack up. I do write her a little note on Google translate and say to have a girlfriend I see multiple times I need BBBJ. She says OK it was just this first time. From now on without. But she's kinda already killed my infatuation with the fact she went covered and would not back off. Do no plan to repeat with her.
That is OK. My next girl turns out to be every thing Micela was not. Still had a nice time and left plenty satisfied. Stay tuned.Well, some girls in "boates" are kinda smarty ass. You have to negotiate and negotiate. And be firm about that.
And, about GFE in "boates" occur more in the 2nd or 3rd encounter.
DreamCarnarvon
07-22-19, 23:51
So I did start at Bomboa which is quite nearby. On arrival I paid the R270 fee and got my numbered wristband. They said "English?" and I said yes and they assigned me an English speaking maitre D and he was awesome the whole night.
At the time I entered the club -- maybe 830 - probably 50 girls and way less guys. All pretty in their own way but I have a certain type. By midnight I'd say there were over a hundred girls there.
So off Micela and I go to the hotel. It is literally 30 ft away. We stop for a smoke break which is nice and casual. Then up the stairs and pay the R190 hotel fee. Nice rooms. Big clean beds. Mirrors everywhere. Shower of course. Nice high end facility.
That is OK. My next girl turns out to be every thing Micela was not. Still had a nice time and left plenty satisfied. Stay tuned.Great report Steve, makes me feel like I'm actually there myself (well, almost). Lots of info for me to digest. I can't wait to check it out when I return to SP! Can you clarify a few things in your report?
1) Are you always assigned a maitre'd or can it be refused?
2) Which days are the best to go? Would there be more girls on Thursdays and Fridays than Mondays and Tuesdays?
3) Is the hotel you mentioned a part of the boate? Can I take the girl to my own place and skip that hotel?
I'm pretty sure this Micela girl would've given you a BBBJ if you repeated with her. But with hundreds of girls to choose from, its nothing to lose sleep over with. The good thing is BBBJ is the norm rather than the exception in Brasil.
Looking forward to your next report.
GiuseppeBonera
07-23-19, 03:40
Hey,
Just wondering what day would be best to go to Scandallo during the week. I want there to be a good amount of girls but at the same time not crowded with guys.
Great report Steve, makes me feel like I'm actually there myself (well, almost). Lots of info for me to digest. I can't wait to check it out when I return to SP! Can you clarify a few things in your report?
1) Are you always assigned a maitre'd or can it be refused?
2) Which days are the best to go? Would there be more girls on Thursdays and Fridays than Mondays and Tuesdays?
3) Is the hotel you mentioned a part of the boate? Can I take the girl to my own place and skip that hotel?
I'm pretty sure this Micela girl would've given you a BBBJ if you repeated with her. But with hundreds of girls to choose from, its nothing to lose sleep over with. The good thing is BBBJ is the norm rather than the exception in Brasil.
Looking forward to your next report.I wasn't assigned a maitre'd when I visited Bomboa.
Steve 9696
07-23-19, 13:15
So recall I'd finished a nice but not spectacular round with Micela. A real cutie with a great voluptuous body. After we part ways I head back into Bomboa. When I had exited earlier they gave me two receipt cards. One for free entry that night and one for free entry on another day in the next week.
So when I got back they hooked me up with a new wristband number and Ricardo instantly appeared. Ever the gentleman, he informs me that Jim is not back down yet but should not be long (we had agreed to meet back up). He says the bar will be the most comfortable place to wait.
He sets me up a Jack and Coke and I conclude it is a great place to wait. There is the bar itself but all the stools are taken. And there is a half wall between the bar and the club where you can stand and take in all the eye candy. So I sip my drink and I wait.
I am approached by a very pleasant looking girl with great English but not my type. After chatting a bit I don't want to keep her so I say I am just waiting for a friend and not going to the room again. She is disappointed but puts her number in my phone even tho I don't ask.
As time passes, two seats open up at the bar. I take one and this other girl takes the one next to me. Since I am not in the market (planned to go to Scandallo for round 2) I don't pay too much attention to how she looks.
Well it turns out she looks GREAT which I discover as she engages me. She speaks very little English but has a beautiful face and dynamite smile. She got my attention by whispering to me "I love to suck" followed a few seconds later with "I want to suck you". OK not much English but she knows the important stuff! And following my CBJ disappointment my interest is piqued-- tho I still plan to bail.
She must sense my reluctance because she puts on the full court press. The proper way IMO. She sets about seducing me. And succeeds! First she just lightly kisses my neck and ears while pressing against me. Then a full on mouth kiss with DFK. We start making out pretty good and she can kiss. She's a tall girl so mish-kissing would be on the menu if I cave.
She's already got me pretty worked up and she can feel my stiffy growing. No shy wallflower, she puts her hand right on it and starts surreptitiously stroking me while we make out, with her hand hidden between us. Of course I am a lightweight for this kinda stuff and start thinking about a room. Wisened up, I whisper "blowjob sem camisa" (without condom) YES BABY. And "leite na boca" (milk in mouth. CIM) OF COURSE BABY. Nice! She asks R800 and we agree R700. (NB for HB - $25 means absolutely nothing to me)
Jim is still not back and I say we have to wait. This turns out to be great because we just make out like teenagers while waiting. Eventually all the cock rubbing takes its toll and I say Jim can take care of himself. Let's go! Exit fee this time is R150 for two jack and cokes and an appletini for Rafaela.
Hotel check-in is the same and R190 fee. Oh this reminds me. I had used a private card to charge the earlier Bomboa tab and it's listed on my card as a Churrascaria! S that's a nice touch.
In the room she is way more girlfriendy than Micela. Some great kissing and then offers a joint shower. Like Micela, she had been hiding a huge natural set behind a bustier. Don't know why they do that but a set of spectacular natural DeeCup tits spill out when unleashed.
This reminds me. Both Micela and Rafaela are from Rio -- just like the famous Thifany. I don't know what they are doing up there but they should keep fucking and producing babes like this! This I think also speaks to the demise of the Rio scene. Why would these showstopping hotties commute to So Paulo otherwise?
After the shower she puts me on my back on the bed and straddles me while kissing me deeply. Her pussy perilously close to my junk in a tantalizing way. Well it's no lie that she loves to suck because she goes down and does a great job, sem camisa, of course. Not the best ever but very credible and gets me worked to a good state.
One of the most indelable images from our time together is her riding cowgirl. It's either the top one or two cowgirl visuals in my mental slideshow (Fortune being the other). She has her hands on my chest as she rides and those magical tits are pushed together in the most alluring way. And she's moaning and sighing with her gorgeous lips slightly parted. Hair cascading everywhere. Nice!
When we switch to Mish it's really really good. Great pussy feel and lots of mish-kissing. She seems to really be into it as we can't always kiss because she is going "oh oh oh oh" in time with my thrusts, her mouth a perfect oval of perfect lips with a little teeth showing.
Honestly I've found of late that one of the best ways to cum during a busy week of girls is to focus on her mouth when in cowgirl and Mish. Sure enough just watching her ohohohohoh as I thrust is just somehow gorgeous and sure enough I cum in Mish.
Again joint shower. And she asks where I am staying. My hotel is just a few blocks from where she stays so I say I will walk her home. This is very nice as we walk hand in hand up the street for several blocks where I bid her goodnight. Sweet sweet girl and darn naughty with a banging body. Would repeat.
Stay tuned boys. Three more girls in SP and an epic multi day event in BA still to come...
Steve 9696
07-23-19, 20:18
So there are two principal types of venues in So Paulo: The Boate. At Night and the Clinica during the day. There are widely varying reports here on the CLnicas so I thought I best check it out. I had been to Tangar last year and while pleasant enough, my taste tends to run to the luxe side and Tangar is not that. It's very adequate facilities but nothing more.
So I chose Abbobora as the most high end looking by web surfing standards. And it was a great choice.
Upon arrival you may be a little confused because there is no Abbobora sign. There is a Shiga sign and a long hall to what you assume is a Japanese restaurant. This is the place. Continue down the hall and the receptionist will greet you. A little Portuguese is very helpful. It's R270 payable in advance. This is high for a Clinica but completely justified by the venue, as you will see.
After paying we are walked back down the hall and across another small hall to where the presentation is done. Here you sit in a nice lobby and leather lounge chair where the girls are presented one by one. You need to do a bubble sort in your head as they come -- like oh I like Bianca best, next, ok still Bianca, next, still Bianca, next Ok Taina is top spot, next. And s on. Don't be too drunk it takes concentration! 😀.
Let me tell you anyone who says you won't find someone to your liking at Abbobora is insane. Maybe I got lucky going around 6 on a Friday but I was pleasantly surprised. There were ten or so girls all doable in a pinch but I would say seven were very good and five exceptional. In the end I chose Taina.
Taina is a young inexperienced girl and you could see that from the outset. 20 years old MAX. More likely 18. Super cute in her hot pants with just a touch of baby fat as she is transitioning from girl to woman. Definitely fresh and young. I thought this might be a fun change of pace and I was right.
P.S. I guess you can negotiate services during the parade but that seems very awkward and didn't occur to me. So the experience was as expected of a very young woman.
So they bring me back to reception. And I ask if there is anywhere I can get a drink beforehand. They say I should spend no more than ten minutes to not keep the girl waiting but show me to the upstairs bar. Wow! Small but swanky. Leather chairs and couches marble and granite everywhere. Abbobora is luxe throughout. In retrospect I would probably do this backwards next time -- enjoy some unrushed lounge time and then pick a girl.
I have a Jack and Coke which is R40 as I recall and Taina shows about 10 minutes later. Wowza! And I take my drink with me as she shows me to our room. Again super nice. You can see pics of the rooms and the bar and all on their website. They are spot on.
In the room she is as shy as you might expect an 18 year old newbie to be. A little kissing because she knows she is supposed to but often burying her face in my neck and shoulder area as we sway to the music. This does not bother me as it is exactly as I expect. I will be a gentleman (always am) and go at her pace.
She showers then I shower and we get on the bed together. I don't remember all the details. I am four girls behind on my reporting! The highlight was being very tender with her and working her very slowly by mouth, where she built up super slow. Very small noises and could tell she was enjoying it but a super slow build. So I was probably down there for ten or so minutes and decide to work her by hand. She doesn't want FIV deep but her slot is plenty slippery and I need to work her clit anyhow.
So I use my index finger and start working her in circles and back and forth with a little up and down the slit mixed in with (love that personally). Her clit is a little buried but I find the bump by feel and figure out she likes the back and forth more. So I work this for another ten minutes maybe (it's making me very hard watching and listening!) And we work up to a good strong O. She clamps her thighs closed on my hand like a vice! I work a bit more as she shudders through it but eventually she has to move my hand as she closes it out.
Wowzer that was fun. There is sex in a couple positions and she masturbated some more for me as I finish (again no BBBJ sets me back) but really the whole session was about making this coming-of-age young woman get off in a powerful way. It was really great and just as I hoped going in.
We wrap things up get an Uber and on to my later adventures at Scandallo that night. Stay tuned.
Upon arrival you may be a little confused because there is no Abbobora sign. There is a Shiga sign and a long hall to what you assume is a Japanese restaurant. This is the place. Continue down the hall and the receptionist will greet you. A little Portuguese is very helpful. It's R270 payable in advance. This is high for a Clinica but completely justified by the venue, as you will see.
P.S. I guess you can negotiate services during the parade but that seems very awkward and didn't occur to me. So the experience was as expected of a very young woman.
We wrap things up get an Uber and on to my later adventures at Scandallo that night. Stay tuned.Steve, you cannot negotiate nothing on the parade. Take the negotiation for the room, it will be more pleasant for both parties. But are $ 270 is fair for "clinica pacote". Little or no massage + BJ + intercourse + CIF or COHT.
Above that we have Clinica Oro, Clinica Lotus, but it will cost a lot more. Fixed rate for the Clinica (250+), and a plus masseusse (200+). The installations are even more sophisticated, the girls more pretty etc etc. You have what you pay for.
Jimmy Boy 99
07-24-19, 05:21
Steve, you cannot negotiate nothing on the parade. Take the negotiation for the room, it will be more pleasant for both parties. But are $ 270 is fair for "clinica pacote". Little or no massage + BJ + intercourse + CIF or COHT.
Above that we have Clinica Oro, Clinica Lotus, but it will cost a lot more. Fixed rate for the Clinica (250+), and a plus masseusse (200+). The installations are even more sophisticated, the girls more pretty etc etc. You have what you pay for.You can always ask to speak to the girl you like to see if she does what you want in a session before going with her to the room. I always do so and have never been told I couldn't speak to the girl.
FRobertson
07-24-19, 14:38
Wowzer that was fun. There is sex in a couple positions and she masturbated some more for me as I finish (again no BBBJ sets me back) 1) Yes I have mixed feelings about Abobora. Beautiful girls is a plus. Covered BJ is a huge minus. Girls are unrushed and friendly, and actually one slept on my shoulder for about half an hour, which was nice, that's also a plus.
2) Steve9696, your inbox is full.
Steve 9696
07-24-19, 17:49
1) Yes I have mixed feelings about Abobora. Beautiful girls is a plus. Covered BJ is a huge minus. Girls are unrushed and friendly, and actually one slept on my shoulder for about half an hour, which was nice, that's also a plus.
2) Steve9696, your inbox is full.Mailbox is cleared. I am behind on reports and will catch up soon. Two great Scandallo reports to come. But mostly I am smitten by my new "girlfriend" in Argentina. We spent the better portion of three days together. And it was beyond epic. I can't share all the details here but will try to summarize the high points.
Plus two more visits upcoming. Stay tuned.
You can always ask to speak to the girl you like to see if she does what you want in a session before going with her to the room. I always do so and have never been told I couldn't speak to the girl.Asking discreetly = OK.
Asking ostensibly = asking for trouble.
You could speak with the girl, of course! But try to ask "e ai, me chupa sem camisinha ou andão" (hey, do you suck my dick without condom or what?) in a loud voice. You're asking for trouble. In a "Boate" it's ok, anyway. But in "clinicas" it's a huge NO NO.
Some "high end" clinicas, in theory, you cannot have sex, just massage (LOL) but you can find a way ("Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" indeed).
DreamCarnarvon
07-25-19, 00:03
1) Yes I have mixed feelings about Abobora. Beautiful girls is a plus. Covered BJ is a huge minus. Girls are unrushed and friendly, and actually one slept on my shoulder for about half an hour, which was nice, that's also a plus.I have mixed feelings about SP's clinicas in general. Since Steve mentioned Abbobora, I will use it as my example.
Abbobora is top notch in terms of its facilities in SP and there are very few casas de massagem in Rio that can match its hardware. In fact, I can safely say most clinicas beat out casas de massagem. One of the most annoying thing I hate about most of the casas de massagem in Centro Rio is how little privacy their "rooms" offer. Most are nothing more than cubicles which are separated by cheap partitions that does not not offer any soundproofing. I can't speak for other guys but I don't want to hear another guy fucking his girl when I'm trying to concentrate on my girl. Another advantage of an actual room is the convenience of an in-room shower. Trust me, you will take that for granted until you are forced to walk down the hall to take a shower. And even the low end clinicas in SP will have in-room showers. The only casa de massagem that I found comparable to SP's clinicas is Copa 583.
In terms of lineup quality, Abbobora has one of the best in both SP and Rio. The girls are well mannered and professional, which is not a bad thing. But for me personally, they are a little too professional. What I mean by that is they will do all the services we expect from a clinica girl (good attitude, kissing, BBBJ, intercourse) but all in a less natural manner. And I find that to be the norm with the a lot of the clinica girls. Speaking from personal experience, I was given more GFE from girls in Rio's casas de massagem than with girls in SP's clinicas.
On the topic of CBJ. I think it has to do more with the individual girl rather than a specific clinica / casa de massagem. Of the 4 sessions I had at Abbobora, all 4 of the girls gave me BBBJ. Of course I had girls who I sessioned with who gave me CBJ. But I found in most cases, the girls were newbies.
Polyamorist
07-25-19, 01:34
You could speak with the girl, of course! But try to ask "e ai, me chupa sem camisinha ou ando" (hey, do you suck my dick without condom or what?) in a loud voice. You're asking for trouble. In a "Boate" it's ok, anyway. But in "clinicas" it's a huge NO NO.Wrong. It's a standard query in a clinica and the girls have a standard response, typically: "Yes, if you're clean. " If you don't ask, you are at risk of being treated like an outsider and given a CBJ.
FRobertson
07-25-19, 14:51
On the topic of CBJ. I think it has to do more with the individual girl rather than a specific clinica / casa de massagem. Of the 4 sessions I had at Abbobora, all 4 of the girls gave me BBBJ. Of course I had girls who I sessioned with who gave me CBJ. But I found in most cases, the girls were newbies.This is super useful. I'll explore more of Abbobora next time.
............Some "high end" clinicas, in theory, you cannot have sex, just massage (LOL) but you can find a way ("Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" indeed).Where there's a windfall there's a way.
Wrong. It's a standard query in a clinica and the girls have a standard response, typically: "Yes, if you're clean. " If you don't ask, you are at risk of being treated like an outsider and given a CBJ.But if there are any undercover cop in the same room you're looking for trouble. At least going to police station for "esclarecimentos". Did you know that "clinicas de massagem" and "privês" are raided by the police with some frequency?
One thing. I'm here to contribute and to past some time, but always stay safe. You're not in your home turf.
Act smart, don't be the "gringo in the newspapers" or in the "police station" calling at least some friend or lawyer for being in the wrong place and hour.
RonhinCruz
07-27-19, 00:33
I have confirmation I will be in Sampa Aug 7-11th along with the details. A couple of specific questions.
1) I will be staying at George V Branca Casa near Oscar Freire. Does anyone know if this hotel is girl friendly? In general are these sorts of hotels girl friendly and is there any procedure I need to know about. Girls checking in etc?
2) Ideally I would like to do my first dupla at the hotel. I have identified reviewed pairs on the Portuguese forums that interest me I plan to contact. Bad idea to have them to my hotel? Any recommendations from experience would be appreciated. (Still working to get my box here paid for and set up). Also, is 4 hands in the clinicas just code for dupla or is there something else I have to negotiate? My thought is I would prefer girls that enjoy and are practiced in dupla instead of some random clinical pairing.
3) Final question. While plan on hitting a clinica I also. Am. Intrigued by the escort boards. If I stick with verified and reviewed GPS with videos on sites like photoaccompahantes and do the normal checks will I likely get what is advertised or is the risk of scam and headache still too high?
I don't think I will do a boates this time. I am interviewing for a job and be near the office and I would prefer to try these when I am settled and I have more context.
Thanks for any help. Reports will be forthcoming.
AltoBomGosto
07-27-19, 11:55
I have confirmation I will be in Sampa Aug 7-11th along with the details. A couple of specific questions.
1) I will be staying at George V Branca Casa near Oscar Freire. Does anyone know if this hotel is girl friendly? In general are these sorts of hotels girl friendly and is there any procedure I need to know about. Girls checking in etc?
2) Ideally I would like to do my first dupla at the hotel. I have identified reviewed pairs on the Portuguese forums that interest me I plan to contact. Bad idea to have them to my hotel? Any recommendations from experience would be appreciated. (Still working to get my box here paid for and set up). Also, is 4 hands in the clinicas just code for dupla or is there something else I have to negotiate? My thought is I would prefer girls that enjoy and are practiced in dupla instead of some random clinical pairing..1) I will be staying at George V Branca Casa near Oscar Freire. Does anyone know if this hotel is girl friendly? In general are these sorts of hotels girl friendly and is there any procedure I need to know about. Girls checking in etc?
Although I live very close I have no idea if this hotel is girl-friendly.
2) Ideally I would like to do my first dupla at the hotel. I have identified reviewed pairs on the Portuguese forums that interest me I plan to contact. Bad idea to have them to my hotel? Any recommendations from experience would be appreciated. (Still working to get my box here paid for and set up). Also, is 4 hands in the clinicas just code for dupla or is there something else I have to negotiate? My thought is I would prefer girls that enjoy and are practiced in dupla instead of some random clinical pairing.
I would suggest to do it at a Clínica, paricullary red massagens and clinica Tangara.
I have confirmation I will be in Sampa Aug 7-11th along with the details. A couple of specific questions.
1) I will be staying at George V Branca Casa near Oscar Freire. Does anyone know if this hotel is girl friendly? In general are these sorts of hotels girl friendly and is there any procedure I need to know about. Girls checking in etc?
2) Ideally I would like to do my first dupla at the hotel. I have identified reviewed pairs on the Portuguese forums that interest me I plan to contact. Bad idea to have them to my hotel? Any recommendations from experience would be appreciated. (Still working to get my box here paid for and set up). Also, is 4 hands in the clinicas just code for dupla or is there something else I have to negotiate? My thought is I would prefer girls that enjoy and are practiced in dupla instead of some random clinical pairing.
3) Final question. While plan on hitting a clinica I also..I haven't stayed there but I do stay at the 5 star hotels. I have never had a problem. I have never registered a girl. I meet them in the lobby and go where we go. No questions. They are, though, inevitably dressed appropriately for the hotel. One Sunday morning I did see an issue with one guy trying to bring in two at 6:00 am. But they were dressed like street walkers.
For escorts, look around on twitter. Follow https://twitter.com/xxxLogan_x and https://twitter.com/AndarilhoGP. Both very well respected by the women. See who you like and contact them. Some speak English or use google translate. Ask them about duplas. You'll quickly find that these women are legitimate. Cost is 400/500 an hour.
Job Reach.
AltoBomGosto
07-27-19, 12:17
I have confirmation I will be in Sampa Aug 7-11th along with the details. A couple of specific questions.
1) I will be staying at George V Branca Casa near Oscar Freire. Does anyone know if this hotel is girl friendly? In general are these sorts of hotels girl friendly and is there any procedure I need to know about. Girls checking in etc?
2) Ideally I would like to do my first dupla at the hotel. I have identified reviewed pairs on the Portuguese forums that interest me I plan to contact. Bad idea to have them to my hotel? Any recommendations from experience would be appreciated. (Still working to get my box here paid for and set up). Also, is 4 hands in the clinicas just code for dupla or is there something else I have to negotiate? My thought is I would prefer girls that enjoy and are practiced in dupla instead of some random clinical pairing..1) I will be staying at George V Branca Casa near Oscar Freire. Does anyone know if this hotel is girl friendly? In general are these sorts of hotels girl friendly and is there any procedure I need to know about. Girls checking in etc?
I live very close to this hotel, I don't know about been girls friendly but seems to be a very family type hotel. Go to a clinica and do the dupla there.
2) Ideally I would like to do my first dupla at the hotel. I have identified reviewed pairs on the Portuguese forums that interest me I plan to contact. Bad idea to have them to my hotel? Any recommendations from experience would be appreciated. (Still working to get my box here paid for and set up). Also, is 4 hands in the clinicas just code for dupla or is there something else I have to negotiate? My thought is I would prefer girls that enjoy and are practiced in dupla instead of some random clinical pairing.
If you are near to your working buddies I don't think there will be wise to take two girls to your room. A clinica will be your best choice, Red ay, VANÍS way and Tangara, near to Av. Paulista and Kamna massagens and Enjoy spa in Moema you will have many options. But ask the receptionist fot a recommendation of a good dupla. Tangara has English speaking receptionists.
3) Final question. While plan on hitting a clinica I also. Am. Intrigued by the escort boards. If I stick with verified and reviewed GPS with videos on sites like photoaccompahantes and do the normal checks will I likely get what is advertised or is the risk of scam and headache still too high?
I'm not a fan of hiring a girl from these escort boards. Chances of scam are especially greater if you don't speak Portuguese.
PM me if you have any further questions.
ABG.
Steve 9696
07-27-19, 21:55
So I arrive Scandallo about 11 on a Friday. I'd only seen it before on a Saturday and for sure it is more packed Friday. Girls absolutely everywhere. 200 girls? Who's counting. Let's just say more pretty girls on display for the taking than anywhere else in the world (that I know of).
I start with a Red Bull and Vodka to get my energy level up. Bear in mind that its just like Russia. They charge you separately for the alcohol and the mixer. So a Red Bull Vodka is a heart stopping R50+R60 or about $27 USD (Scandallo is not for the faint of heart. But you can cut your bill in half easily by drinking neat or on the rocks. Nonetheless a bar bill of $150, which is pretty easy to arrive at, is not going to break me. Just be prepared for the amount you spend on drinks and the amount spent on the girl to be pretty close! Someone has to pay for all the glitz and glam you are enjoying.
The room where the main bar and band are is totally packed. You can see a ton of garotas per step but it's often almost overwhelming. Sometimes I hang at the back where it's a little slower and sometimes up near the stage.
While in the back, I see a guy who is with a super pretty slim tall girl maybe 5' 10". Looks like they are negotiating but she walks off. Come to find out she wanted R1000 and was not coming down. So obviously some girls are trying to hold the line despite discussion in here.
When I want to chill a bit and avoid the crush I go to the outside patio. When I am out here about an hour after arrival I am starting to think about moving on some action. As luck would have it a tall dirty blond with really pretty lips and smile approaches. Even though she is not quite my usual type there is something sexy about her and we get on well doing some solid DFK there at the table and convincing me she is a passionate girl. Can't recall if it was R700 we agreed or R600. Probably R700 because I recall most girls at Scandallo and Bomboa asking R800 as a starting price and I don't try to push them down too much. They are cream of the crop girls in a luxe venue.
In the room she is really sweet and attentive. Unfortunately I am late writing this up so I don't recall all the details. I do recall she kisses great and the Mish kissing was really good. And she must have done something right because she coaxed a shot when I had just been at Abbobora a couple hours ago.
So we shower and I head back to the club (she may well head out having bagged her fish). I don't really have a third shot in me and a long week ahead but I love the spectacle and just enjoy myself in the club for another hour or so.
Must be maybe 3 AM by now, when a pretty girl in a white form fitting dress approaches. She is very friendly with near perfect English. We had spent time together early on but she had on a bit much makeup for me with the big false lashes. But she's great to talk to and a welcome break from the brain strain of 100% Portugus.
She confesses later after sex (stay tuned!) that she kinda stalked me. She had seen me enter the club, worked her way over to me, chatted me up and was really disappointed when I moved on. So she was thrilled to see me back to give her another shot. I have to say it feels kinda good to know I was worth stalking.
But I am not really in the market. I tell her quite clearly that I would love to dance and make out but cannot go to the room again. I can't recall if I tell her or she is just confident in her seduction skills but my plan is to give her R100 or 200 to just be my girlfriend on the floor for an hour.
Either way it works out great because Josy is all mine. She is a good dancer and teaching me the one left two right and we are drinking and dancing away. It doesn't take long before we are DFKing like lovers and she is really good. Honestly I could drink and dance and DFK all night. The three Ds.
As we take dance breaks from time to time I sit on my bar stool and she pushed up tight against me. Then maybe a half hour in, First when facing me and later when backed up to me she puts her hand between us where you can't see and starts rubbing my cock. Yes right in the club at Scandallo. And then ups the ante and with her hand behind her back puts her hand down my pants and starts some nice stroking. OK you win baby.
So I do ask her price and it being late night she offers 600 and me being not in a must-go situation say 500 would be fine and she agrees. Sure guys I bet she would have gone for even less and you are welcome to try your luck. But for me I am already thrilled to get a girl like this for $125! What? That is crazy!
The in room experience is GREAT. Some girls are pleasers and wow is Josy a pleaser. Very gentle undressing me, nice joint shower (veggie but pleasant) and a BBBJ to die for. Great Mish kissing nice cowgirl. Really the full package. I am concerned I can't pull a third rabbit out of the hat but she is persistent and stays downstairs for a good 15 minutes. She's mixing in great BLS and we are alternating her and me doing HJ while she BLS's. Wow that is a good combo and sure enough the magician succeeds! I am truly surprised and spent. What a girl.
We wrap after that and it's a good 5 AM by then. Zowee! Later she sends me a few body pics -- almost perfect -- with those Brasileira tan lines. Wow.
So a great night. Pretty sure it was R700+R500+R200+R200+R440=R2040.
Or about $500 for 2 girls, rooms, and drinks over 6 hour period. A damn bargain by my standards and a whale of a time!
SnarkHunter
07-27-19, 22:30
Questions at clinicas.
1. During the initial "parade," is the conversation more than just the girl telling you their name? Or can you discuss specific possibilities or otherwise chat to test the chemistry?
2. Is it permitted to write notes during this initial session? I've only been to a place once before that had the parade, and I struggled to remember names.
3. If two providers are to be selected, is it customary / considered good strategy to first choose your favorite and then let her choose a partner?
4. Do any clinicas offer nuru massage?
DreamCarnarvon
07-28-19, 00:54
So I arrive Scandallo about 11 on a Friday. I'd only seen it before on a Saturday and for sure it is more packed Friday. Girls absolutely everywhere. 200 girls? Who's counting. Let's just say more pretty girls on display for the taking than anywhere else in the world (that I know of).
While in the back, I see a guy who is with a super pretty slim tall girl maybe 5' 10". Looks like they are negotiating but she walks off. Come to find out she wanted R1000 and was not coming down. So obviously some girls are trying to hold the line despite discussion in here.
As we take dance breaks from time to time I sit on my bar stool and she pushed up tight against me. Then maybe a half hour in, First when facing me and later when backed up to me she puts her hand between us where you can't see and starts rubbing my cock. Yes right in the club at Scandallo. And then ups the ante and with her hand behind her back puts her hand down my pants and starts some nice stroking. OK you win baby.
So I do ask her price and it being late night she offers 600 and me being not in a must-go situation say 500 would be fine and she agrees. Sure guys I bet she would have gone for even less and you are welcome to try your luck. But for me I am already thrilled to get a girl like this for $125! What? That is crazy!Great on the ground reporting again!
It would be absolutely worthwhile just to be able to see 200+ ready to fuck hotties in one place. No doubt it would be hard to commit to one girl LOL. I'd imagine for most of these girls, with supply greater than demand, are going home each night empty handed. Great insight about your second pull. I'm happy to hear that girls can be pulled for R500 at Scandallo! I'd imagine if one plays all of his cards right (wait until very late to pull, targeting desperate girls, and promising future repeats) he may even score a deal for R400.
1. During the initial "parade," is the conversation more than just the girl telling you their name? Or can you discuss specific possibilities or otherwise chat to test the chemistry?
I think this has been answered just recently. Check post #10303.
DreamCarnarvon
07-28-19, 01:45
Questions at clinicas.
1. During the initial "parade," is the conversation more than just the girl telling you their name? Or can you discuss specific possibilities or otherwise chat to test the chemistry?
2. Is it permitted to write notes during this initial session? I've only been to a place once before that had the parade, and I struggled to remember names.
3. If two providers are to be selected, is it customary / considered good strategy to first choose your favorite and then let her choose a partner?
4. Do any clinicas offer nuru massage?I can attempt to answer:
1) In most cases, during the presentation, each girl mainly just kiss you on the cheek and tell you her name and that's it. In Rio however, I have experienced in some casas de massagem where the girls also tell you all the services that she provides. Some girls can even get very touchy! I have yet to experience this in SP's clinicas. If you see a potential, I suggest you ask the receptionist if you can speak to the girl so you can ask her a few quick questions. I can tell you, along with other veterans here, that you needn't worry about chemistry too much with Brazilian women. Almost all are very passionate in bed and will deliver great GFE or PSE sessions.
2) I know exactly what you mean LOL! I had no issue using my phone during the presentation. So you can use your phone or the old pen and paper form to write down whatever you like. Alternatively, you can kindly ask the receptionist if you can see the lineup again. Most will have no problem with your request. One time in Rio, I ran into an american who forgot the name of the girl he wanted so the receptionist brought all the girls back into the room for him to see. It was quite special to see all the girls line'd up side by side!
4) These clinica girls will do whatever you like them to do, provided that she agrees to your request. From my personal experience, I have had some girls at the beginning of the session (usually one hour sessions) ask me if I want a fully body massage first then sex. So while there aren't any clinicas that specialize in nuru massage, you can certainly request that with the girls.
So I arrive Scandallo about 11 on a Friday. I'd only seen it before on a Saturday and for sure it is more packed Friday. Girls absolutely everywhere. 200 girls? Who's counting. Let's just say more pretty girls on display for the taking than anywhere else in the world (that I know of).
I start with a Red Bull and Vodka to get my energy level up. Bear in mind that its just like Russia. They charge you separately for the alcohol and the mixer. So a Red Bull Vodka is a heart stopping R50+R60 or about $27 USD (Scandallo is not for the faint of heart. But you can cut your bill in half easily by drinking neat or on the rocks. Nonetheless a bar bill of $150, which is pretty easy to arrive at, is not going to break me. Just be prepared for the amount you spend on drinks and the amount spent on the girl to be pretty close! Someone has to pay for all the glitz and glam you are enjoying.
The room where the main bar and band are is totally packed. You can see a ton of garotas per step but it's often almost overwhelming. Sometimes I hang at the back where it's a little slower and sometimes up near the stage.
While in the back, I see a guy who is with a super pretty slim tall girl maybe 5' 10". Looks like they are negotiating but she walks off. Come to find out she wanted R1000 and was not coming down. So obviously some girls are trying to hold the line despite discussion in here.
When I want to chill a bit and avoid the crush I go to the outside patio. When I am out here about an hour after arrival I am starting to think about moving on some action. As luck would have it a tall dirty blond with really pretty lips and smile approaches. Even though she is not quite my usual type there is something sexy about her and we get on well doing some solid DFK there at the table and convincing me she is a passionate girl. Can't recall if it was R700 we agreed or R600. Probably R700 because I recall most girls at Scandallo and Bomboa asking R800 as a starting price and I don't try to push them down too much. They are cream of the crop girls in a luxe venue.
In the room she is really sweet and attentive. Unfortunately I am late writing this up so I don't recall all the details. I do recall she kisses great and the Mish kissing was really good. And she must have done something right because she coaxed a shot when I had just been at Abbobora a couple hours ago.
So we shower and I head back to the club (she may well head out having bagged her fish). I don't really have a third shot in me and a long week ahead but I love the spectacle and just enjoy myself in the club for another hour or so.
Must be maybe 3 AM by now, when a pretty girl in a white form fitting dress approaches. She is very friendly with near perfect English. We had spent time together early on but she had on a bit much makeup for me with the big false lashes. But she's great to talk to and a welcome break from the brain strain of 100% Portugus.
She confesses later after sex (stay tuned!) that she kinda stalked me. She had seen me enter the club, worked her way over to me, chatted me up and was really disappointed when I moved on. So she was thrilled to see me back to give her another shot. I have to say it feels kinda good to know I was worth stalking.
But I am not really in the market. I tell her quite clearly that I would love to dance and make out but cannot go to the room again. I can't recall if I tell her or she is just confident in her seduction skills but my plan is to give her R100 or 200 to just be my girlfriend on the floor for an hour.
Either way it works out great because Josy is all mine. She is a good dancer and teaching me the one left two right and we are drinking and dancing away. It doesn't take long before we are DFKing like lovers and she is really good. Honestly I could drink and dance and DFK all night. The three Ds.
As we take dance breaks from time to time I sit on my bar stool and she pushed up tight against me. Then maybe a half hour in, First when facing me and later when backed up to me she puts her hand between us where you can't see and starts rubbing my cock. Yes right in the club at Scandallo. And then ups the ante and with her hand behind her back puts her hand down my pants and starts some nice stroking. OK you win baby.
So I do ask her price and it being late night she offers 600 and me being not in a must-go situation say 500 would be fine and she agrees. Sure guys I bet she would have gone for even less and you are welcome to try your luck. But for me I am already thrilled to get a girl like this for $125! What? That is crazy!
The in room experience is GREAT. Some girls are pleasers and wow is Josy a pleaser. Very gentle undressing me, nice joint shower (veggie but pleasant) and a BBBJ to die for. Great Mish kissing nice cowgirl. Really the full package. I am concerned I can't pull a third rabbit out of the hat but she is persistent and stays downstairs for a good 15 minutes. She's mixing in great BLS and we are alternating her and me doing HJ while she BLS's. Wow that is a good combo and sure enough the magician succeeds! I am truly surprised and spent. What a girl.
We wrap after that and it's a good 5 AM by then. Zowee! Later she sends me a few body pics -- almost perfect -- with those Brasileira tan lines.
So a great night. Pretty sure it was R700+R500+R200+R200+R440=R2040.
Or about $500 for 2 girls, rooms, and drinks over 6 hour period. A damn bargain by my standards and a whale of a time!Curious because I'm planning trip in November in the boates the fee is for an hour or the time.
Is negotiable? And how long is the room rental? Glad you having a great time.
Steve 9696
07-28-19, 02:45
Curious because I'm planning trip in November in the boates the fee is for an hour or the time.
Is negotiable? And how long is the room rental? Glad you having a great time.The room is the part that is hourly not the girl. Though you might want to discuss it upfront if you plan two hours for example.
If you run over the room time they start fining you. It was R50 for ten minutes over last year. Did not go over this year.
I should mention two other things. The rooms at Scandallo have a little revolving drinks door so you can order in private any time. And the rooms have been massively upgraded. Granite and marble everywhere and dual showers which is nice.
I have confirmation I will be in Sampa Aug 7-11th along with the details. A couple of specific questions.
1) I will be staying at George V Branca Casa near Oscar Freire. Does anyone know if this hotel is girl friendly? In general are these sorts of hotels girl friendly and is there any procedure I need to know about. Girls checking in etc?
2) Ideally I would like to do my first dupla at the hotel. I have identified reviewed pairs on the Portuguese forums that interest me I plan to contact. Bad idea to have them to my hotel? Any recommendations from experience would be appreciated. (Still working to get my box here paid for and set up). Also, is 4 hands in the clinicas just code for dupla or is there something else I have to negotiate? My thought is I would prefer girls that enjoy and are practiced in dupla instead of some random clinical pairing.
3) Final question. While plan on hitting a clinica I also..My experience is that sometimes you just go up, and sometimes the dude at the door asks you to register the girl at the front desk. Actually, the girls seem to expect it. At the Renaissance near Avenida Paulista, they always want the girl to register, but there is no problem taking them up with you.
Steve 9696
07-28-19, 13:19
This actually took place in a small town called Floras the Cunha, not far from Caxias do Sul. But everyone comes here to learn Brazil landscape. Will cross post.
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So I know the Boate scene in Caxias is pretty lame, having been last year. I've been doing more research and found a Boate called SusiNight in an adjacent town. It looks pretty credible but you just never know. And it's a 25 minute drive. But I rather like the idea of an adventure into the mountainous countryside.
So off I Uber to SusiNight. I ask the driver in Português which is better Boate Ilha where I've been before or this new one. He says the new one is much better so that is promising. But expectations are still low. I mean we are in The middle of nowhere.
When I arrive it certainly seems credible -- three or four security guys. One gives me a card, marks the R30 entry fee on it and sends me in. This being lower brow they use physical pink cards to track your consumption. Drinks are R70 each ($17) so this is where you will rack up your bill if you are not careful or don't care (looking at you Steve! They put a little x on your card for each drink you order for yourself or a girl.
There are probably about 15-20 girls and 5 or 6 guys when I arrive around 11. I get a neutral table and survey. Mostly a 5-7 type lineup. Not Bomboa, but will do for a country-living experience.
The waitress / concierge asks what I want to drink and brings Jack and Coke, marking my pink card. A few minutes later she brings a girl. She is quite cute but not quite my type with Ruby red lips and deep blue eyes.
It is pretty awkward because I am stone cold sober and even though my hooker Portuguese has gotten pretty good it's quite loud and it's hard to deal with a foreign language.
The waitress comes back and asks if I want to order the lady a drink. I want to be nice but I know if I do she will stay. And she is not my type even though she is a solid 9 amongst the 6-7's. So I decline and a few moments later she takes the hint and moves off, looking a little sad. Boo. I hate doing that!!
Meanwhile I have spotted a cutie in some torn Daisy Dukes across the way. She's sitting by herself and very much my type -- slim and darker with deep brown eyes and full lips. So I go over to chat her up. Again not a single word of English. Up close she is a shade less pretty. Banging body (solid 9) but totally fucked teeth. Made be think of Lisa DCups in Shanghai. Much slimmer but the teeth. Somehow tho it's kind of appealing.
I bring her back to the table and buy her a drink in what turns out to be the beginning of a very long party that is a fucking blast. We find a table where we can sit and the chairs are bar height -- which turns out to be important later.
The first half hour is a bit awkward. I am doing my best in Português but the awkwardness fades with each round of drinks though. I get my girl dancing and she is showing me the 1 left 2 right variation -- I had done this with Scandallo Josy so I was getting the hang of it.
A song comes on with a great latin vibe and the guy at the table next to me indicates his and my girl should dance together. I don't think they know each other but they are both liquored up now and they get into a tight embrace like you would for tango and they tear up the floor. It is the most beautiful and sexy thing you can imagine. I want to jack off right then! And they have a blast. I LOVE it when club girls are truly enjoying themselves and not pretending. And this was that.
When my girl returns she is all worked up and there is more cuddling and hands on as things have loosened up. Now when something with a strong latin beat comes on she starts twerking for her man. Booty backed up against my growing cock I know Joana can feel it and she likes it.
Despite some great sex later, this booty shaking grinding lesi-dancing and just general partying is the best part. A top notch time. And 2+ hours of this. The time flew by.
When Joana was taking a break from booty shaking she would just back up to me in the chair and sway. Eventually she put my hands on her tits. Giving a good squeeze, I could feel that despite the thick bustier she had a nice set of be naturals. Having been invited, I take to squeezing her tits often. Super nice.
After a couple hours of this I am thinking we need to get to the room soon. It's maybe 1:30 but its so fun it is hard to stop. Still I need to fuck this girl soon because I will burst otherwise.
So she suggests a smoke break and we go on the back patio. She doesn't have enough cigarettes so we share one. It's rather sexy.
I talk to Joana and ask "blowjob sem camisa" -- she pulls out Google translate and says "if you are hygienic". I assure her I am. And no CIM which is ok. She offers R400 and I counter R300 (US $75) and she readily accepts. She says she really really likes me. Awesome.
For R100 we go to a cabin which are rooms with leather benches on the second floor but they are open on one side to the dance floor below which is interesting.
By now my girl has had three drinks in her tiny 90 lb frame and is wildly into me and the moment. Passionate kissing. Then she gets her top off and I get to feel those beauties up close and personal. Not only great firm handsize tits but nipples that are super erect and a solid 15-20 mm tall and 12 mm in diameter. I mean really first class.
She bends over the bench and does more ass shaking now in her thong. Then fully naked does a grinding lapdance on me first in my jeans and then in my underwear. Soon the clothes are off and she's doing a nice BBBJ as agreed. Nothing earth shattering but very nice.
Now it's her turn and I go down on her working her clit strongly. She is squirming and moaning. At one point the music pauses just as she lets out a big moan. LOL. I love that she it getting very wet. As I take my tongue into her slit from time to time it's wet with that perfect girl smell. I work my left index finger up inside and curl it back on her gspot. Jackpot! Working mouth and fingers together she really gets off. And I work my own shaft with my right hand the whole time. Very sexy stuff.
We do some doggie and some very nice RCG. Not usually a fan of that because it bends me the wrong way in bed but sitting on a bench it totally works. And with her flowing black hair to her butt it's mighty sexy.
Finally we turn to Mish and it is really great. Great pussy feel and with one leg on the bench and one foot firmly planted on the floor I can pound away. She seems to REALLY enjoy this too, alternating legs wide open and clamped around me. Finally we end up with me on my back her standing bent over blowing me and me with my finger in her pussy. I really love to finger wet pussy while being blown so sure enough -- boom boom go boom.
The winddown from here is rather comedic. First my girl tells me how much she likes me and wants to go again and what a nice and gentle person I am and please don't leave. She is just about sobbing for like 20 minutes as I attempt to extricate myself from the club. The good news is she keeps kissing me super passionately as she begs me to stay so it's not time wasted. Actually really great wet kissing.
Well Uber totally fails me and cannot find a driver at 2:30 AM. And they say there is no taxi either. So me and the handler girl agree that "some guy" will take me in a little bit for R50. Well it turns out the guy is a young dude who is running the food truck. And we have two hookers hitching a ride as well. So the sandwich guy is blasting through the mountains at 50 mph in this tiny car with hooker1 up front and hooker2 in the back with me. Priceless shit!
I arrive home safely! My final bill at the club was R880. So those drinks really add up. But still over 3 hours with a beautiful girl and 4-5 rounds of drinks for $200 is unbelievable. I LOVE Brasil.
DreamCarnarvon
07-29-19, 02:29
This actually took place in a small town called Floras the Cunha, not far from Caxias do Sul. But everyone comes here to learn Brazil landscape. Will cross post.Just google map'ed this Caxias do Sul. It quite out there, half way between Sao Paulo and the Uruguay border. What were you doing out there if you don't mind me asking?
I always wanted to venture outside of the big cities (IE SP, Rio, Belo Horizonte) and see what the rural area / small towns have in offer as far as mongering goes. Brazil is so huge and beautiful, I know for sure there would be many surprises for me to see and experience. The only thing holding me back is my concern for my safety being a solo traveler. I had no problem traveling solo all over Cambodia but Brazil to me is another story. I mean I would definitely stick out like a sore thumb and would definitely be an easy target. I would probably need a travel companion, preferably a native Brazilian, to come with me if I was going to do it. But it would no doubt be a blast. I hope I can convince my Brazilian friend to do it.
I assume you went there by yourself, and if so, I commend you bravery. But your report was definitely a fun read. I was expecting another report of Scandallo and this report was both surprising as well as refreshing.
I will be visiting SP at the end of August, and I am looking for girls with a specific physical attribute of large pussy lips / large clit. I've gone through this forum as well as GP-GUIA and learned that the Portuguese term for this is "Greluda". I've found a couple of independents on photoacompanhantes by searching for "greluda", but I wanted to put it out to this group to see if anyone could help me locate some girls in SP with this attribute (whether independent or at a clinica). Here are two examples of what I am looking for:
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/namoradinha-carinhosa-safada-bonita-e-simpatica-id-rq9ky
https://twitter.com/srtaa_reisp?lang=en
Steve 9696
07-30-19, 01:39
Just google map'ed this Caxias do Sul. It quite out there, half way between Sao Paulo and the Uruguay border. What were you doing out there if you don't mind me asking?
I always wanted to venture outside of the big cities (IE SP, Rio, Belo Horizonte) and see what the rural area / small towns have in offer as far as mongering goes. Brazil is so huge and beautiful, I know for sure there would be many surprises for me to see and experience. The only thing holding me back is my concern for my safety being a solo traveler. I had no problem traveling solo all over Cambodia but Brazil to me is another story. I mean I would definitely stick out like a sore thumb and would definitely be an easy target. I would probably need a travel companion, preferably a native Brazilian, to come with me if I was going to do it. But it would no doubt be a blast. I hope I can convince my Brazilian friend to do it.
I assume you went there by yourself, and if so, I commend you bravery. But your report was definitely a fun read. I was expecting another report of Scandallo and this report was both surprising as well as refreshing.I work as a database consultant and we have some clients in the CDS area.
This advice is not for everyone. I lead a glass half full kind of life. Almost everything turns out well. So with that caveat my advice is to take the adventure. 90% of the time I am alone when I do the girls thing. But I make friends easily. Here are a few quickies where I took a chance and it came up aces:
CDS last year. My girl and I had been to the room at my hotel. I was not done for the night after round one. Brought her back to the club as a wingman. Found a sexy little number. She said let's go to the hotel Shell drive. So we blast through CDS at 3 AM windows down blond hair everywhere and AC / DC blasting "She's Got the JAck" on the stereo. Fucking priceless.
San Jose Found an off the record club that is a cafe during the day and an illegal strip club at night. They go to close up at 1 but I make a new friend who happens to be a pro soccer player and I join his posse for the unlicensed club in an office park. Some ad agency sign out front. Blacked out windows. $100 to get in. And voila a huge party with a parade of girls and you choose the one you want to party with (no sex but fun).
Moscow standing outside Golden Girls. They are not open yet. Make a new friend. Turns out he director of sales. Has a driver. Pays my cover with his membership and we party and smoke hookah. Then he says let's go have some real sex and we drive across town to another club where the girls are for hire. This was my intro to P4P in Moscow where I am now very comfortable.
Like I said not for everyone. Everyone of these could have ended badly. But that is not how I roll and the world seems to roll with me!
Steve 9696
07-30-19, 01:59
So it's the very last night of my trip and where else would I choose to go but Scandallo? I was drag ass tired and considered not going. What a mistake that would have been. So, professional that I am, I powered thru.
I roll up around 11 PM and it's quite packed like one would expect. First I spend a bit of time on the patio. It's more relaxed out there, before the crush of the club. A few pretty girls that are maybes but no one lights me up.
I decide to wade into the thick of it, which is the main area with the band and grab my second drink. And it's packed. Pretty much have to turn sideways to wend your way thru the crowd. I can't really estimate but surely over 100 girls just in that part, maybe 150? It is a buffet that is unequalled worldwide in my opinion.
I have a certain type and it's a very narrow window. So out of the 150 I will probably find 5 or less that are up my alley even tho they are all pretty in their own way. At some point Julliana from last week appears. She is a sweet girl and pretty and I would repeat under other circumstances. But not with such a target rich environment. So I give her a kiss and move on (later I find out she was pissed. But hey.).
I find one of the very best places to do the girl-buffet is up near the stage to the right. You can stand on the little step there and for some reason a lot of the ladies have a loop that goes right by there. But bear in mind others never leave the back of the room so you need to work both.
While the ladies are on parade there are one or two who catch my eye and I file them for future reference. One particular beauty is wearing a floral print top and matching wrap-around skirt. She has lovely dark eyes and long black hair. Tawny skin. Just my type. We make brief but meaningful eye contact.
This reminds me, it is very interesting how the game is played:
1 Eye contact and quick eye aversion. One of the parties is not interested. Move on.
2 Brief eye contact - 2-3 seconds. Dig you let's talk later.
3 Strong sustained eye contact. Let's talk right now baby.
The irony with number 2 is if you are careful not to let it go to defcon 3 then you only get a brief look at your girl. My tropical girl gets eye contact level 2 - I need further confirmation and file her for later.
Later when I am surveying from the back of the room, I notice that tropical-girl is next to me. I do another quick meeting of the eyes and then drop after a couple seconds. As I turn away, it hits me she is the one. So I reengage and turn towards her and engage her in my broken Portugus. (In retrospect I realize that she is not next to me by accident. She had marked me also after the first gaze and sought me out. Well good for her because she got it right!
Wow fuck this girl is a real doll. We chat briefly but it's very loud in the club. So we adjourn to the couches in the hall. I'd never really noticed that there are nice couches lining the hall between the restaurant and the club. What a great place to get to know each other. And we do. She's got an architectural degree and hopes to practice soon. She says she loves Scandallo because it's so classy and I agree.
God she is beautiful and I need to move this to the next level but don't want to do a room and be done. So I ask if she wants a drink and does she like dancing. Sim and sim! (All discussion is Portugus. She knows no English.).
So we head back to the main part of the club. She is very girlfriendy, leading me by the hand. We get her a drink and find a section in the middle where there are some tables that create sufficient dancing space. So we put our drinks here and start some dancing. Well not really. More like hips to hips swaying regardless of the beat. And some grinding and gyrating.
The dancing is very sexy and intimate. One of the things that melts my soul is when a girl looks deep into my eyes. Not enough of this so far this trip including my spectacular BA girlfriend. So when Andressa concentrates those liquid browns on mine it is delicious. We lean in and kiss a little. Light stuff at first. A little tongue mixed in as things progress. I honestly enjoy this as much as the room. I did it with Josy for an hour or so last week and loved it. With Andressa it is not the full on tongue tangled mackin like Josy, but very pleasant. And the balance will tip toward Andressa In the room, where she is a goddess.
After 20 minutes or it could be a half hour of dance-flirting I think we were both ready for the room. We do it via Google translate. She initiates with "What do you like to do during sex". Nice. I like the directness. "I like blowjob without condom. And kissing in missionary". Hoping just for an OK, I instead get a surprising "I love BJ without condom. " Which clearly is no lie we discover later.
The room is down the elevator and back up the stairs. R200 at the counter. Again led by the hand, we find our room.
Standing by the bed she faces me and does the full on liquid brown eyes and we kiss a bit. She then turns around and I untie her top. This BFGF part is very sexy and I love when girls do it. It's the first exposure to her tits and they are spectacular BeeCups. Super fine. We get her skirt off as well and then she undoes my buttons and belt. I love being undressed and she is very sexy doing it.
After showers she puts me on my back, straddles me, and sexily crawls up me till we are face to face and plants a strong kiss on me. Love kissing her. She lies fully on top of me, naked junk to lady parts. Gets me rather hard just moving our hips.
Then like a sexy cat she crawls back down and takes me in her mouth, never breaking eye contact. And she is VERY good downstairs. Top one or two of the trip. Lots of licking while giving the doe eyes. Plenty of BLS. A nice buffet of blowjob. Fortunately her being the tenth (ish) fuck of the trip I have plenty of stamina and don't threaten a stack-blowing despite her skills.
Now it's her turn as I turn her on her back. I start by just kissing her deeply but then work down to those spectacular tits. She doesn't get the mega hard nipples like Joana the prior night but she seems to respond in a basic way. Now it's time to move on down.
I take my time going there hoping to get her worked up. When I reach the goal I start some really good tongue work. Her clit is a bit covered so I push up the surrounding flesh to get better access (learned this recently). But despite this, the response is pretty demure. At five or so minutes in, I think she is bored and maybe I should stop. But I do something right and get a little breath intake and head grab. So I keep at it. Sure enough she is just a super slow build.
I spend quite some time working on her as she slow-builds. The magic ticket tho is when I work my index finger inside and curl it back to her Gspot. Using both tongue and fingers is getting her super hot and bothered. I start to feel a small wave and then a huge bucking wave of pussy clamps. Don't know that I've felt that strong a reaction inside a pussy ever before. Made me feel great that I could get her off like that.
Afterwards she just lies fully spent just staring up at me with something like admiration or gratitude. This was no act. She is like a limp wet fish so completely satisfied. But she wants to reciprocate so does a bit more BJ then she grabs the condom and starts riding cowgirl. What a sight! Perfect tits pressed together. Sometimes she'll throw her head back and put her arms back and lean back, just letting go. Fuck she is a stunner -- like a 9. 5.
She switches to RCG which I don't usually prefer but she does a great job. After a while I move her to her back and plunge into Mish. This is really really good. Lots of Mish kissing but she seems to like it best when she buried her face in my neck and wraps her legs strong around me. This is so fine I think I may cum in Mish which I love. But it fades.
In the end, we roll over and lose the condom and she works me by mouth. She has to use every trick in the book and is down at least another ten minutes maybe more. Spectacular climax with ten minutes left on the room.
So we shower, I get her number (ALWAYS do this with Brasileiras) and later get some model-level pics the next day via WhatsApp. Wow what a girl!
Polyamorist
07-30-19, 16:09
Sounds like you had a kickass time at Scandallo, Sayyid Steve. I thought this good info from January was worth reposting for first-time visitors:
Yes, they ask for ID, my buddy had brought a photocopy of his passport. I had none with me, so they asked for CC but I only carry cash. Finally the girl let me just tell her my name.It was the same with me. At first they asked for my ID, but that's not something I ever give to sex clubs. They put on a stern face but it was just an act: they eventually backed down. After all at the end of the day they are in business to make money. If it ever gets to the point that they are more interested in our data than our cash we will have to ask: why?
I expect this ID check will go away once the Brazilian General Data Protection Act comes into effect in 2020. In the meantime, while Brazil is still the Wild West of data, we have to just grin and play the game. The name you give doesn't have to be real, it is just a moniker to identify you for repeated visits. Of course, if you dress like a tramp they may use the ID thing as an excuse to shut you out. But generally Brazilians are a pretty laid-back people.
SnarkHunter
07-30-19, 21:23
P. S. There are no chicas in Brazil, we speak Portugus and the word GAROTA is the correct one.What is the difference between a garota and a menina?
Steve 9696
07-31-19, 02:55
What is the difference between a garota and a menina?Menina is more little girl. Garota more girl or a young lady I would say. P4 P girls are often called Garotas de Programe. Definitely not meninas.
Member #4732
07-31-19, 14:58
Menina is more little girl. Garota more girl or a young lady I would say. P4 P girls are often called Garotas de Programe. Definitely not meninas.Well, yes and no. Technically, both mean girl with garota having the connotation of slim. Another common word for girl is moça. All can also be used to refer to adult women in the same way that in English it was possible before political correctness to call a woman a girl.
In Brazil, the phrase "garota de programa" has become so established in the culture that one is perhaps risking offending an arbitrary woman if you call her a "garota". Whereas with "menina" you only risk the same political correctness issue you have in english to a certain extent.
Within the putaria world, garota and meninas are actually both applicable, and both mean adult women, working girls, in the context of a adult entertainment establishment. It is perfectly ok to ask the reception at a club or spa "how many meninas" are working. In fact, "menina" is used at least as or more frequently verbally than "garota", because menina is a bit softer and more flattering these days, I believe. So you will often hear the reception calling out "Meninas! Apresentaçao!" I never hear them call out "Garotas, Apresentaçao".
Within the putaria world, garota and meninas are actually both applicable, and both mean adult women, working girls, in the context of a adult entertainment establishment. It is perfectly ok to ask the reception at a club or spa "how many meninas" are working. In fact, "menina" is used at least as or more frequently verbally than "garota", because menina is a bit softer and more flattering these days, I believe. So you will often hear the reception calling out "Meninas! Apresentaao!" I never hear them call out "Garotas, Apresentaao".Same thing is very common in the Spanish-speaking world where working women are quite normally called or referred to as "ninas".
Well, yes and no. Technically, both mean girl with garota having the connotation of slim. Another common word for girl is moa. All can also be used to refer to adult women in the same way that in English it was possible before political correctness to call a woman a girl.
In Brazil, the phrase "garota de programa" has become so established in the culture that one is perhaps risking offending an arbitrary woman if you call her a "garota". Whereas with "menina" you only risk the same political correctness issue you have in english to a certain extent.
Within the putaria world, garota and meninas are actually both applicable, and both mean adult women, working girls, in the context of a adult entertainment establishment. It is perfectly ok to ask the reception at a club or spa "how many meninas" are working. In fact, "menina" is used at least as or more frequently verbally than "garota", because menina is a bit softer and more flattering these days, I believe. So you will often hear the reception calling out "Meninas! Apresentaao!" I never hear them call out "Garotas, Apresentaao".Had this been a short essay question on one of my comparative linguistics quizzes, I give you an A, take the rest of the semester off and let you teach!
Well done.
P.S. Was preparing a similar post but you were faster to the draw!
1st things 1st. A big thank you to all of you who provide info and post your experiences in this thread. My first trip to Sao Paulo and due to this thread I knew exactly where to go and what to do. The info here is invaluable. Many thanks.
My trip has been weird. I'm here on business and every time I decided to hit up a clinica I had to jump on a call or put out a work related fire. I'm staying in Moema at a guest friendly hotel so for the last three days I've only engaged with escorts that outcall or allow a visit to them. While doing my pre trip research I found 8 escorts who are active on Twitter and using Gpguia to check their reviews I've struck gold 7/8 so far. These women devoured me as soon as the hotel room door closed. The level of GFE that I've experienced has been top notch. I also found a site that lists all of the escorts by blonde, brunette, mulatto etc. https://www.gptwitter.com/. I think it's a combination of luck, getting a sense of their energy from their tweets, 'bom energia' and that I had to adjust to the fact that they don't look at being punctual as I do being from New York LOL. They take their time responding and are usually 15-20 minutes late. I met one girl while although the sex was good it looked like she was having a fight with someone on her phone so she was apologizing way too much. I'm not easily annoyed so it was all good. There are two women that I just had to see and they were just plain drop dead gorgeous. If we are allowed to post their Twitter pages here I will. I encountered no bait and switch and all looked like their pictures. I'm using whatsapp to communicate with them all.
I intend to try the Moema clinicas today and will report back.
Member #4732
08-02-19, 13:50
1st things 1st. A big thank you to all of you who provide info and post your experiences in this thread. My first trip to Sao Paulo and due to this thread I knew exactly where to go and what to do. The info here is invaluable. Many thanks.
The level of GFE that I've experienced has been top notch. I also found a site that lists all of the escorts by blonde, brunette, mulatto etc. https://www.gptwitter.com/.
I intend to try the Moema clinicas today and will report back.Very good report. Glad you are enjoying yourself. That new gptwitter filter site looks awesome, best development for online searching that I have seen in a long time, great news.
Too bad you do not have PMs or I would try to meet up with you at the Moema clinics in my neighborhood. Have fun.
1st things 1st. A big thank you to all of you who provide info and post your experiences in this thread. My first trip to Sao Paulo and due to this thread I knew exactly where to go and what to do. The info here is invaluable. Many thanks.
My trip has been weird. I'm here on business and every time I decided to hit up a clinica I had to jump on a call or put out a work related fire. I'm staying in Moema at a guest friendly hotel so for the last three days I've only engaged with escorts that outcall or allow a visit to them. While doing my pre trip research I found 8 escorts who are active on Twitter and using Gpguia to check their reviews I've struck gold 7/8 so far. These women devoured me as soon as the hotel room door closed. The level of GFE that I've experienced has been top notch. I also found a site that lists all of the escorts by blonde, brunette, mulatto etc. https://www.gptwitter.com/. I think it's a combination of luck, getting a sense of their energy from their tweets, 'bom energia' and that I had to adjust to the fact that they don't look at being punctual as I do being from New York LOL..Post away. That's the exchange of good info!
Again joint shower. And she asks where I am staying. My hotel is just a few blocks from where she stays so I say I will walk her home. This is very nice as we walk hand in hand up the street for several blocks where I bid her goodnight.Steve, I'm glad you had a great time. You don't go for walks in Sao Paulo in the wee hours of the night. You're tempting getting jacked. The wrong girl could also text her boyfriend and his friends. You're a foreigner in Brazil.
Mel; Blue Night Show, she lives in my building, sometimes works from home. Anal sex is her forte!
Which hotel in Moema?
1st things 1st. A big thank you to all of you who provide info and post your experiences in this thread. My first trip to Sao Paulo and due to this thread I knew exactly where to go and what to do. The info here is invaluable. Many thanks.
My trip has been weird. I'm here on business and every time I decided to hit up a clinica I had to jump on a call or put out a work related fire. I'm staying in Moema at a guest friendly hotel so for the last three days I've only engaged with escorts that outcall or allow a visit to them. While doing my pre trip research I found 8 escorts who are active on Twitter and using Gpguia to check their reviews I've struck gold 7/8 so far. These women devoured me as soon as the hotel room door closed. The level of GFE that I've experienced has been top notch. I also found a site that lists all of the escorts by blonde, brunette, mulatto etc. https://www.gptwitter.com/. I think it's a combination of luck, getting a sense of their energy from their tweets, 'bom energia' and that I had to adjust to the fact that they don't look at being punctual as I do being from New York LOL. They take their time responding and are usually 15-20 minutes late. I met one girl while although the sex was good it looked like she was having a fight with someone on her phone so she was apologizing way too much. I'm not easily annoyed so it was all good..
I had great to mind blowing sessions with these ladies. I found them all through the twitter rabbit hole. I give an S rating to those who surpass and A+.
Isa Bombom. A. A very buxom dark skinned chocolate woman with a body built for porn. She gets into it but will not initiate a thing at first. Rounds 2 and 3 she took control.
At isabombom20.
Manuella Borges. S++. Was at the same location as Isa Bombom. Small world. Extremely down to earth and easy to talk to. Gorgeous.
At manuborgesgp.
Cleo Dende. S+++ the hair, the body. She's a dancer as well. Best experience I had with any woman, ever. Got to make sure to not make that experience the standard or no woman will measure up LOL.
https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sp/cleo_dende
Japacompanhante. S++ She went the extra mile to please. Very cool and relaxed lady. She's definitely a fan of being pleased also. She later posted on twitter where she thanked me by name for a great time and orgasm. I don't need to be incognito but not sure if I'm OK with that or not LOL.
At japcompanying.
Alinne Brandao. S++ for my SpaceBalls fans I rate her 'ludicrous speed'. She set a goal to get* 4 out of me. She did. Easily.
At srta_brandao.
Rebeka Caetano. S++. An absolute tiger in the sack. Tries to seduce you the entire time. Funny as hell and set the tone on the seduction as soon as the elevator door closed.
At 27 Rebeka.
Bella Morena. S++ stunning woman. Her pictures do her no justice. Awesome time.
At bellamorenabr.
Clinical Red -my very first clinica visit and God I'm a rookie. Said yes to the first woman who approached me. Paola was her name. She intends to move to Australia and was an escort in California for a while. She spoke English. I stumbled out of there in awe of the lineup process and being able to choose. I'm still not over it. So good. I'm interested to know if that "Christmas Morning" like glee fades with multiple visits.
Abbobora- loved everything about this place. Amazing atmosphere and I went with Suzy the second lady who introduced herself. When she bent down to say high she traced my goatee with her fingers. I was tagged and bagged after that. Sigh. Bubbly personality and full of energy. She banged the hell out of me.
Tangara-* enter Marina. A hot little brunette who I chose after waiting to meet all of the available ladies this time LOL. From the jump there was an old friends vibe as we were laughing at the language barrier between us. We exchanged whatsapp info before any sex. We just. Clicked. After a ridiculously amazing BBJ we tried to have sex but the condoms she had were too small. We couldn't stop laughing and boy did she try to make it work. * After trying with a few different ones I gave up. I was a little too satisfied with meeting her. I had to check myself as we were engaging like a couple on a honeymoon. Can't fall in love. I went back to my hotel* admittedly in a haze of infatuation. I did sets of pushups till failure and deleted her contact info because I know I would call etc. I can't get "got" out here LOL.
Yessir and thanks again for your posts. I truly never felt like a tourist in Sampa. I will definitely try to link go my next visit. I'm definitely interested in seeing what Sao Paulo and the clinicas are like during Carnival.
Very good report. Glad you are enjoying yourself. That new gptwitter filter site looks awesome, best development for online searching that I have seen in a long time, great news.
Too bad you do not have PMs or I would try to meet up with you at the Moema clinics in my neighborhood. Have fun.
I did sets of pushups till failure and deleted her contact info because I know I would call etc. I can't get "got" out here LOL.Sets of pushups, LOL.
Why erase good contact info?
No need to get "got", whatever that means.
Just send her a text to come over for fun.
You're in the driver's seat man.
Good luck.
I had great to mind blowing sessions with these ladies. I found them all through the twitter rabbit hole. I give an S rating to those who surpass and A+.
Isa Bombom. A. A very buxom dark skinned chocolate woman with a body built for porn. She gets into it but will not initiate a thing at first. Rounds 2 and 3 she took control.
At isabombom20.
Manuella Borges. S++. Was at the same location as Isa Bombom. Small world. Extremely down to earth and easy to talk to. Gorgeous.
At manuborgesgp..You certainly went for an all-star lineup! They all have spectacular reputations. Glad you had fun.
Jib Reach.
Which hotel in Moema?Mercure Ginasio Ibarapuera.
Mercure Ginasio Ibarapuera.Thank you for your very good reports.
Actually that hotel is in Paraiso, not in Moema.
Member #4732
08-07-19, 17:30
Yessir and thanks again for your posts. I truly never felt like a tourist in Sampa. I will definitely try to link go my next visit. I'm definitely interested in seeing what Sao Paulo and the clinicas are like during Carnival.Thanks for nice words. Do return for sure, but please understand that the entire putaria scene is actually at a yearly low point during carnival. The girls prefer to enjoy carnival with their friends and family and therefore are not working. A few places are open but if you come to Brazil during carnival do so for carnival not for putaria. If you come for putaria specifically, avoid Carnival or any of the other big holidays.
Eszpresszo
08-07-19, 19:32
Thanks for nice words. Do return for sure, but please understand that the entire putaria scene is actually at a yearly low point during carnival. The girls prefer to enjoy carnival with their friends and family and therefore are not working. A few places are open but if you come to Brazil during carnival do so for carnival not for putaria. If you come for putaria specifically, avoid Carnival or any of the other big holidays.I asked one GP how business was during carnival. She said it was a bad time. "Too many girls giving it away for free".
DreamCarnarvon
08-08-19, 00:41
Abbobora- loved everything about this place. Amazing atmosphere and I went with Suzy the second lady who introduced herself. When she bent down to say high she traced my goatee with her fingers. I was tagged and bagged after that. Sigh. Bubbly personality and full of energy. She banged the hell out of me.
Tangara-* enter Marina. A hot little brunette who I chose after waiting to meet all of the available ladies this time LOL. From the jump there was an old friends vibe as we were laughing at the language barrier between us. We exchanged whatsapp info before any sex. We just. Clicked. After a ridiculously amazing BBJ we tried to have sex but the condoms she had were too small. We couldn't stop laughing and boy did she try to make it work. * After trying with a few different ones I gave up. I was a little too satisfied with meeting her. I had to check myself as we were engaging like a couple on a honeymoon. Can't fall in love. I went back to my hotel* admittedly in a haze of infatuation. I did sets of pushups till failure and deleted her contact info because I know I would call etc. I can't get "got" out here LOL.Suzy at Abbobora. She's a great fuck! Not the prettiest or youngest girl at abbobora but she makes it up in the bed. She told me she had worked at abbobora for 5 years so she's very experienced and definitely knows how to please a man. She gave me the best sex out of all the abbobora girls I sessioned with. Will definitely repeat with her when I return.
Your infatuation with Marina is similar to how I felt about a girl in Rio. A gorgeous mulata with beautiful dark skin and jet black hair going down her back. My jaws literally dropped to the floor the first time I saw her. She was a bit shy and at the end of the session when I asked her for her whatsapp number, she whispered it was against house rules. When I went back to see her again a couple days later, one of the girls told me that she no longer worked there. I was so devastated and I had no ways of contacting her. I was in a depressive mood for the next couple of days. Days later, out of no where I spot her in centro with a friend. I was so surprised to bump into her. I thought damn this is fate, fate has brought us back together LOL. We hugged and this time I made sure I got her number. So the next day I went to her new casa and had one of my most intimate and sensual sessions of my life. The most memorable moment was us locking eyes as I was slow thrusting her butthole in spoon.
Yeah I was talking to her yesterday and she said that she goes there because they can charge more however she did not give me a time limit.Wondering on the dynamic at this place. Seems it is on par with Scandallo in terms of price and quality, but opposite in terms of atmosphere (relaxed vs active / take out vs in house). Any advise?
And the food wasn't bad either! This is Rafaela from Rio.
Promitheus
08-09-19, 09:21
Hello dear monger,
Seems all getting good action. I am here in Santos for 2 days. Tried clubmodel but could not find any escort in Santos. But found some other site.
Like skokka, fatal model, photo acompa.
Does anybody know if this are safe?
Also if you have any suggestions please feel free. I can't go to SP. Other wise I would have gone there.
AltoBomGosto
08-10-19, 13:54
Hello dear monger,
Seems all getting good action. I am here in Santos for 2 days. Tried clubmodel but could not find any escort in Santos. But found some other site.
Like skokka, fatal model, photo acompa.
Does anybody know if this are safe?
Also if you have any suggestions please feel free. I can't go to SP. Other wise I would have gone there.Take an Uber and go to Ilha Club, om Ilha Porchat.
ABG.
RonhinCruz
08-10-19, 19:32
First, thanks to everyone who has shared here and answered my questions. I am on my final day in Sao Paulo and as promised I would do a report.
Day 1: I landed about mid morning and had a full day of interviews. I got back to the hotel by 7 and had tried to prearranged an escort that night from photoaccompanhantes. She was very responsive until the day of and she wouldn't confirm. So I got an uber and went off the Tangara since it was among the closest recommended places that wasn't also right next to the office I was interviewing at. One thing that I don't like so much about the Brazilian style clinicas is that the systems aren't set up for privacy if one may need that. I imagine you can call ahead maybe and arrange that but the standard way you are just sitting in the room with everyone else for presentation etc. In Korea the assumed privacy of the process was nice.
Anyway, Tangara. It was $170 for an hour and $120 for half. Girls come out one at a time, bisou and give you their name. Between the portuguese and them coming one at a time you have to remember your current favorite otherwise its easy to forget. There were 6 girls and the coordinator usually has the list if you need reminding. This was a bigger problem at Abbobora because of the bigger and higher quality line up. Of the 6 girls 3 were acceptable though none were stunners on the Brazilian scale. However, there were other girls either leaving or busy that were more than fine. I chose Annie a very slim blond girl in a Bond-like white jump suit. She was super girl friend attitude which to me is important. In general so far I have found Brazilian girls so friendly and GF attitude that I love it. Service was great BBJ, DIY, multiple positions, two shots (tough cause I was tired from the plane). For a price conscious option I was totally happy. The facilities were meh. Large room with shower but old etc.
In comparison Abbobora the facilities were nice and the line up was. Well for the $25 extra dollars holy sh at # When you get there there is a sign for "Shinga Hotel" but you don't go there first you take the little coorridor to the left and that is where the presentation is. Then you choose and go back to the hotel, pay and the girl meets you in the room. Probably a great set up legally. $260 reals, there were 12 ish girls when I went on Friday afternoon around 1. Of the 12 all were more than acceptable, 6 were amazing. The diversity of just the 12 girls was off the charts on every dimension. I don't know how I would choose at a place with larger line ups. Because I have only been in Brazil for a few days I am hesitant to give a scale because I imagine the higher price boates may break it. But for me many solid 8's+. About 3 spoke some English but I ended up choosing a slim young girl with short curly hair with flawless skin and a face and eyes that just melted me. The name is escaping me but its start with a P. She had an A- cup size but I like variety in my girls and don't have a type. The rooms were super nice and new. In the room, we each shower and then it was essentially a sultry lap dance, BBJ and very long DIY where she got really into it. Cow girl, clean up and then a second round anal (there was a small upcharge for this and should have negotiated before or in room but it didn't matter to me and she was really into it so. I was happy to do it. I won't make a habit of it. I didn't find any of this mechanical and all in all it was a fabulous experience and beyond worth the $100 reals difference. In fact, I just talked myself to going back this afternoon before my flight out. I know I can't leave disappointed.
This place is amazing and I love, love the diversity. I love the attitude of the girls so far that seems to be very baked into the overall culture. I like the whole GP vibe which is feels much more about upward mobility and a plan of action for the girls rather than a last choice. I am sure there is variation in that but I try to stay away from any probability of exploitation as much as possible in my activities. It just feels different here.
Steve 9696
08-11-19, 16:36
Thanks for the spot on report. My experiences exactly (and save your pennies for a Scandallo visit some day) but I particularly like your point about the GP scene and how the girls seem to want to be there. I have to agree this vibe is very clear in the higher class SP venues. I stay in touch with some of my girls from last year and sure enough they are moving up the food chain. One is now happily engaged with a big house with pool and dogs. And the other has gone into business making purses. They both have leveraged their GP days. Not long ago — into something better. It's great to see.
First, thanks to everyone who has shared here and answered my questions. I am on my final day in Sao Paulo and as promised I would do a report.
Day 1: I landed about mid morning and had a full day of interviews. I got back to the hotel by 7 and had tried to prearranged an escort that night from photoaccompanhantes. She was very responsive until the day of and she wouldn't confirm. So I got an uber and went off the Tangara since it was among the closest recommended places that wasn't also right next to the office I was interviewing at. One thing that I don't like so much about the Brazilian style clinicas is that the systems aren't set up for privacy if one may need that. I imagine you can call ahead maybe and arrange that but the standard way you are just sitting in the room with everyone else for presentation etc. In Korea the assumed privacy of the process was nice.
Anyway, Tangara. It was $170 for an hour and $120 for half. Girls come out one at a time, bisou and give you their name. Between the portuguese and them coming one at a time you have to remember your current favorite otherwise its easy to forget. There were 6 girls and the coordinator usually has the list if you need reminding. This was a bigger problem at Abbobora because of the bigger and higher quality line up. Of the 6 girls 3 were acceptable though none were stunners on the Brazilian scale. However, there were other girls either leaving or busy that were more than fine. I chose Annie a very slim blond girl in a Bond-like white jump suit. She was super girl friend attitude which to me is important. In general so far I have found Brazilian girls so friendly and GF attitude that I love it. Service was great BBJ, DIY, multiple positions, two shots (tough cause I was tired from the plane). For a price conscious option I was totally happy. The facilities were meh. Large room with shower but old etc.
In comparison Abbobora the facilities were nice and the line up was. Well for the $25 extra dollars holy sh at # When you get there there is a sign for "Shinga Hotel" but you don't go there first you take the little coorridor to the left and that is where the presentation is. Then you choose and go back to the hotel, pay and the girl meets you in the room. Probably a great set up legally. $260 reals, there were 12 ish girls when I went on Friday afternoon around 1. Of the 12 all were more than acceptable, 6 were amazing. The diversity of just the 12 girls was off the charts on every dimension. I don't know how I would choose at a place with larger line ups. Because I have only been in Brazil for a few days I am hesitant to give a scale because I imagine the higher price boates may break it. But for me many solid 8's+. About 3 spoke some English but I ended up choosing a slim young girl with short curly hair with flawless skin and a face and eyes that just melted me. The name is escaping me but its start with a P. She had an A- cup size but I like variety in my girls and don't have a type. The rooms were super nice and new. In the room, we each shower and then it was essentially a sultry lap dance, BBJ and very long DIY where she got really into it. Cow girl, clean up and then a second round anal (there was a small upcharge for this and should have negotiated before or in room but it didn't matter to me and she was really into it so. I was happy to do it. I won't make a habit of it. I didn't find any of this mechanical and all in all it was a fabulous experience and beyond worth the $100 reals difference. In fact, I just talked myself to going back this afternoon before my flight out. I know I can't leave disappointed.
This place is amazing and I love, love the diversity. I love the attitude of the girls so far that seems to be very baked into the overall culture. I like the whole GP vibe which is feels much more about upward mobility and a plan of action for the girls rather than a last choice. I am sure there is variation in that but I try to stay away from any probability of exploitation as much as possible in my activities. It just feels different here.
I had great to mind blowing sessions with these ladies. I found them all through the twitter rabbit hole. I give an S rating to those who surpass and A+.
Isa Bombom. A. A very buxom dark skinned chocolate woman with a body built for porn. She gets into it but will not initiate a thing at first. Rounds 2 and 3 she took control.
At isabombom20.
Manuella Borges. S++. Was at the same location as Isa Bombom. Small world. Extremely down to earth and easy to talk to. Gorgeous.
At manuborgesgp.
Cleo Dende. S+++ the hair, the body. She's a dancer as well. Best experience I had with any woman, ever. Got to make sure to not make that experience the standard or no woman will measure up LOL.
https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sp/cleo_dende
Japacompanhante. S++ She went the extra mile to please. Very cool and relaxed lady. She's definitely a fan of being pleased also. She later posted on twitter where she thanked me by name for a great time and orgasm. I don't need to be incognito but not sure if I'm OK with that or not LOL.
At japcompanying.
Alinne Brandao. S++ for my SpaceBalls fans I rate her 'ludicrous speed'. She set a goal to get* 4 out of me. She did. Easily.
At srta_brandao.
Rebeka Caetano. S++. An absolute tiger in the sack. Tries to seduce you the entire time. Funny as hell and set the tone on the seduction as soon as the elevator door closed.
At 27 Rebeka.
Bella Morena. S++ stunning woman. Her pictures do her no justice. Awesome time.
At bellamorenabr.I've seen Isa Bombom on Twitter thanks for the report hope she still around in November and that's for the other twitter handles all boots on ground recon is super appreciated. And about the mention on twitter if you don't need to be incognito should be proud of the mention LOL sure other gp's see too.
The room is the part that is hourly not the girl. Though you might want to discuss it upfront if you plan two hours for example.
If you run over the room time they start fining you. It was R50 for ten minutes over last year. Did not go over this year.
I should mention two other things. The rooms at Scandallo have a little revolving drinks door so you can order in private any time. And the rooms have been massively upgraded. Granite and marble everywhere and dual showers which is nice.Thanks Steve! Still a little while until my trip but the board has been giving some great recon. This part of forum the guys are awesome. I know I'll have a great time with the info why'all are giving.
Polyamorist
08-11-19, 22:35
Thanks Steve! Still a little while until my trip but the board has been giving some great recon. This part of forum the guys are awesome. I know I'll have a great time with the info why'all are giving.Another small tip. After a session, if it was a good one, you might consider going back to the bar and getting her a juice or snack and chatting. It doesn't have to be too extravagant, but they really appreciate the small things. In fact it sends a signal to management that they are getting on well in the club. So if you still have credit on your commanda card, why not?
The one thing you should never do is buy a drink for a girl who explicitly asks for it, especially someone you don't really know. In Scandallo, a drink is supposed to be a reward for good behavior. If you let random WGs approach you and cadge drinks off you that is just messing with the system. I know it's tempting, but trust me, they won't be grateful: they will just think you are an idiot tool who is letting them fulfill their quota.
So in summary: Yes to offering girls stuff (potentially), No to agreeing to requests. It really is a big difference.
HarvestBoi
08-14-19, 03:46
Steve 9696 clear your inbox EOM.
Steve 9696
08-14-19, 14:56
Steve 9696 clear your inbox EOM.Done. Thanks. You'the think I would have earned an inbox upgrade by now! LOL.
Done. Thanks. You'the think I would have earned an inbox upgrade by now! LOL.Steve, do you think the ISG is one of your bitches? ;)
MixedSalad07
08-17-19, 00:18
Good sessions at scandallo, Bamboa, Aboborroa and Oro this week.
Bamboa. Agatha. PAWG. All natural. Porn equivalent Sarah Jay (body wise, this lady is younger with a prettier face). Thought she was silicone up but glad I took a closer look. WIR: why.
Aboorra. Rebecca. Young red head. Not a hard body, but pretty and a good ride. WIR: why.
Scandallo. I enjoy the pomp of the boates. Fun atmosphere. Went on a Wednesday. The ratio seemed to be about 1. 5 to 1. Too many options for me. Some hell NOs. Ended up with a PYT. BBBJ was mediocre. She quoted 700 but agreed for 600 when we were in line for the room. I'the go back to Scandallo but wouldn't session with this girl again. She was pretty, but would want more skills at that price. I don't remember her name, but she kind of reminded me of the singer Mya body wise (not in the face). She was definitely in demand. She was cool and down to earth. Just would try something else. WIR: and (Scandollo, yes).
Oro. Vanessa. Pretty morena. Great experience. WIR: why.
BBBJ DATY and DFK for all the above. Some said anal was on offer but I didn't really peruse it. Not too much my thing. BBBJ and CIM or COB (except the Scandallo girl).
Will try chanes 57 and update. May try some twitter GPS. Will update.
Thanks for nice words. Do return for sure, but please understand that the entire putaria scene is actually at a yearly low point during carnival. The girls prefer to enjoy carnival with their friends and family and therefore are not working. A few places are open but if you come to Brazil during carnival do so for carnival not for putaria. If you come for putaria specifically, avoid Carnival or any of the other big holidays.Thanks for the heads up. I had all intentions to return during Carnival.
MixedSalad07
08-17-19, 15:32
Good sessions at scandallo, Bamboa, Aboborroa and Oro this week.
Bamboa. Agatha. PAWG. All natural. Porn equivalent Sarah Jay (body wise, this lady is younger with a prettier face). Thought she was siliconed up but glad I took a closer look. WIR: Y
Abbóbora. Rebecca. Young red head. Not a hard body, but pretty and a good ride. WIR: Y. Went to the wiskeria afterwards.
Scandallo. I enjoy the pomp of the boates. Fun atmosphere. Went on a Wednesday. The ratio seemed to be about 1.5:1 Too many options for me. Some hell NOs. Ended up with a PYT. BBBJ was mediocre. She quoted 700 but agreed for 600 when we were in line for the room. I'd go back to Scandallo but wouldn't session with this girl again. She was pretty, but would want more skills at that price. I don't remember her name, but she kind of reminded me of the singer Mya body wise (not in the face). She was definitely in demand. She was cool and down to earth. Just would try something else. WIR: No (Scandollo, yes).
Oro. Vanessa. Pretty morena. Great experience. WIR: Yes.
BBBJ DATY and DFK for all the above. Some said anal was on offer but I didn't really peruse it. Not too much my thing. BBBJ and CIM or COB (except the Scandallo girl).
Will try chanes 57 and update. May try some twitter GPS. Will update.Fixed some typos above.
Went to Chanes, didn't session. Was tired but enjoyed the vibe. Maybe 8 on offer 3 I would have sessioned with had I had more energy.
JohnJabber
08-19-19, 16:32
Some years ago, I forget how many (3, 5, 10? There was a string of saunas (walking distance between them) along Rua August in el Centro. I can't remember the names of them. Strangely, I can't find any mention of them on the forum and I'm sure this forum must have been the way I found them way back when. Are they still around? Any thoughts on quality / safety / etc?
Thanks in advance.
DreamCarnarvon
08-19-19, 20:53
Good sessions at scandallo, Bamboa, Aboborroa and Oro this week.
Scandallo. I enjoy the pomp of the boates. Fun atmosphere. Went on a Wednesday. The ratio seemed to be about 1. 5 to 1. Too many options for me. Some hell NOs. Ended up with a PYT. BBBJ was mediocre. She quoted 700 but agreed for 600 when we were in line for the room. I'the go back to Scandallo but wouldn't session with this girl again. She was pretty, but would want more skills at that price. I don't remember her name, but she kind of reminded me of the singer Mya body wise (not in the face). She was definitely in demand. She was cool and down to earth. Just would try something else. WIR: and (Scandollo, yes).
Oro. Vanessa. Pretty morena. Great experience. WIR: why.Did you screen the Scandallo girl? I normally don't screen girls, even at 4 x 4. My strategy has been to take the girls for 30 minute sessions since its the price is so cheap, especially at the clinicas. If they perform up to my standards then if I repeat with them the next time I will go for longer sessions.
But I feel at Scandallo, because the price is R600-800, that screening is going to be required. Not just what they won't allow but also details, like their BJ skills, how affectionate they are going to be once in the bed, etc etc. Sure they can lie but at least I can call them out during the session if they don't perform. Nothing worse then overpaying for a session and not getting satisfied.
BTW what is Oro?
Hello,
I'm back in SP after many years and can't find any recent info. On my usual spot, Gauguin.
Would anyone have any info. on what's going on these days in this club?
Thank you very much!
B.
MixedSalad07
08-20-19, 03:30
Did you screen the Scandallo girl? I normally don't screen girls, even at 4 x 4. My strategy has been to take the girls for 30 minute sessions since its the price is so cheap, especially at the clinicas. If they perform up to my standards then if I repeat with them the next time I will go for longer sessions.
But I feel at Scandallo, because the price is R600-800, that screening is going to be required. Not just what they won't allow but also details, like their BJ skills, how affectionate they are going to be once in the bed, etc etc. Sure they can lie but at least I can call them out during the session if they don't perform. Nothing worse then overpaying for a session and not getting satisfied.
BTW what is Oro?I hear you DC. Yes, I "screened" her. As you said, girls can mislead about their skill levels. My strategy with her was to ask if she offered A levels. I thinks she said No, so that could have been an indicator. My logic was if she did, she's a bit more liberal and free with everything else. She said she did give BBBJ. In retrospect I could have asked how long each part of the program could last, but that seems like a vibe killer. I still had fun with her. She was down to earth. Pretty. She was a getting a lot of attention and I think maybe she doesn't have to do as much to get clients? Idk. She was cool. Her skills in the bed just didn't blow me away. Her BBBJ maybe lasted a minute if that. I was turned on talking to her. It was getting late, so finally decided to dive in. Don't regret it, just wouldn't repeat with her. I don't remember her name.
I've gotten amazing service (Everything included) at Scandallo to very mediocre service there. So especially based on the one time I got lukewarm service there, I make it a point to screen. It's not an exact science. Your strategy for the clinicas is good. At the end of the day there are variables at play and trail and error is one of them.
My very first experience at Scandallo was phenomenal so that is the standard I am chasing.
Oro is a (pricier) clinica in Vila Olmpia.
CharmingIL
08-20-19, 03:59
Hello,
I'm back in SP after many years and can't find any recent info. On my usual spot, Gauguin.
Would anyone have any info. on what's going on these days in this club?
Thank you very much!
B.Last month I was Sao Paulo and stayed at Sheraton Hotel that is pretty close from Cafe Gauguin, passed in front of it some times. By what seems, it was still working.
Hello,
I'm back in SP after many years and can't find any recent info. On my usual spot, Gauguin.
Would anyone have any info. on what's going on these days in this club?
Thank you very much!
B.Google to the rescue:
http://www.novagauguin.com.br
DreamCarnarvon
08-21-19, 00:40
I hear you DC. Yes, I "screened" her. As you said, girls can mislead about their skill levels. My strategy with her was to ask if she offered A levels. I thinks she said No, so that could have been an indicator. My logic was if she did, she's a bit more liberal and free with everything else. She said she did give BBBJ. In retrospect I could have asked how long each part of the program could last, but that seems like a vibe killer. I still had fun with her. She was down to earth. Pretty. She was a getting a lot of attention and I think maybe she doesn't have to do as much to get clients? Idk. She was cool. Her skills in the bed just didn't blow me away. Her BBBJ maybe lasted a minute if that. I was turned on talking to her. It was getting late, so finally decided to dive in. Don't regret it, just wouldn't repeat with her. I don't remember her name.
I've gotten amazing service (Everything included) at Scandallo to very mediocre service there. So especially based on the one time I got lukewarm service there, I make it a point to screen. It's not an exact science. Your strategy for the clinicas is good. At the end of the day there are variables at play and trail and error is one of them.
My very first experience at Scandallo was phenomenal so that is the standard I am chasing.
Oro is a (pricier) clinica in Vila Olmpia.There are always some "bad apples" among the good ones any where in the world. But my success rate of hitting the good ones have been great with Brazilian women, so Brazil is the top spot for me. You did your due diligence but sometimes a few of them will still fall through the crack. I feel comfortable with my strategy for the clinicas, although I think it should only be used with the clinica girls. In a club like 4 x 4 or Scandallo, where you can actually go up and converse with the girls, some sort of screening should be done. Your experience has given me a great idea. Instead of ask the screening questions in a direct manner and possibly killing the vibe, I think its better if they can be inserted subtlety and indirectly during the conversation. I am a believer that if you treat a prostitute like a prostitute, she will most likely behave like a prostitute in bed. But if you treat her like a normal girl, you can, at least temporarily make her think of herself as your lover / GF and get that holy grail GFE.
I used to be one of those guys that fucks like a jack rabbit. No passion needed. But I'm mostly pass that stage and now indulge in slow sensual sex that's full of affection and passion (apologies if this is TMI).
Never heard of Oro. I may have to check it out when I return to SP. What is the pricing structure there?
MixedSalad07
08-21-19, 19:30
There are always some "bad apples" among the good ones any where in the world. But my success rate of hitting the good ones have been great with Brazilian women, so Brazil is the top spot for me. You did your due diligence but sometimes a few of them will still fall through the crack. I feel comfortable with my strategy for the clinicas, although I think it should only be used with the clinica girls. In a club like 4 x 4 or Scandallo, where you can actually go up and converse with the girls, some sort of screening should be done. Your experience has given me a great idea. Instead of ask the screening questions in a direct manner and possibly killing the vibe, I think its better if they can be inserted subtlety and indirectly during the conversation. I am a believer that if you treat a prostitute like a prostitute, she will most likely behave like a prostitute in bed. But if you treat her like a normal girl, you can, at least temporarily make her think of herself as your lover / GF and get that holy grail GFE.
I used to be one of those guys that fucks like a jack rabbit. No passion needed. But I'm mostly pass that stage and now indulge in slow sensual sex that's full of affection and passion (apologies if this is TMI).
Never heard of Oro. I may have to check it out when I return to SP. What is the pricing structure there?I think you make some good points. That's what happened the time I got great service: we kind of just got to know each other a bit. Eventually we had to cross the pricing issues but it didn't chill things out. She threw in things I didn't even know to ask for at that time.
As for ORO its +- 500 depending on how you pay. I've had amazing experiences there, so I check it out when I'm on that side of town. It's pricier for sure but I don't mind paying more if I can relax and the experience is up to par. My worst session there would have been my best one in Europe.
Most have silicone breast. Nothing outrageous though. They tend to be more dolled up. Lean. You won't find anyone too thick there. I'm not saying the girls are top model skinny. You just won't find anyone built like Cherokee d'ass there. YEMV.
This is my first time in the city and I realize not being fluent in Portuguese is brutal. I knew it was Winter time but I wasn't expecting it to be this cool. So far this city isn't stacking up to Rio circa 2015. I liked how you could chat / interview / party with chicas before the deed. Public transit is not for the faint of heart if it isn't within a 10 min. Walk within the metro station. Walking around town I would be surprised if I saw more than 5 hotties a hour. I checked out Tangara. I went here because guys spooked me Brooklin's lineup was underwhelming. Many Asian gents hanging out. The lineup was about 10 girls. Naturally the youngest and hottest chick (7.5) was busy. The other chicks were 6. 5's or below except for the tall 7 I considered until I saw her gut. I'm not a local so I'm not going to sit around for 2 hours to see their full lineup. It was already 8 o'clock. I decided I didn't mind spending a little extra coin so I ubered to Abobbara a shade before 7 p the next day. I liked the first menina Pollie and the 8th chick Julia. Between the two the madrina recommended Julia. Julia is tall and was wearing a sexy short dress. She said she is 23 and speaks Espanol and has medium brown hair. Possibly light braces on her teeth. We did CBJ, mish, CG, doggie. Stunningly she becomes tired during the deed. Being the nice guy I am and chalking it up to lack of chemistry I let her hit the shower at the 40 min. Mark. I did not tip even though I tipped all the Colombianas at the casas. The sex was so so. Not remotely like the hottest sex on the continent I was expecting. Especially since I could've had 3 comparable Colombians for that price. I'm not sure what market value is for a solid 8+ but I'm beginning to think around $R400 to 800. I am not as picky as usual but I don't have the time to check out all the clinicas and trying to find a gem. I went to a fast fuck place in Rio that had a better lineup than Abobbora. I think a negative to SP is that the girls have a loyal following with the local men so a gringo is not the end of the world. Guys here have no problem spending R170 on 6's. I like the city but I haven't been impressed with the females so far. I know some guys hit regular chicks on Brazil cupid etc. So that mitigates the pressure for finding a match at a clinica and also she can show him the city and they can spend more than a hour together. I will do my research and hit pricier spots this weekend.
Guys here have no problem spending R170 on 6's. I like the city but I haven't been impressed with the females so far. I know some guys hit regular chicks on Brazil cupid etc. So that mitigates the pressure for finding a match at a clinica and also she can show him the city and they can spend more than a hour together. I will do my research and hit pricier spots this weekend.If you want consistent 8+ girls, you need to go to the top boates at night or book some well-reviewed escorts. Researching escorts will take a little time. The hot and popular escorts usually start at 400 reals. Some of the girls on PhotoAcompanhantes show their face. I believe sometimes the photos are verified.
If you don't have time, you could post a profile (i.e. tall, blonde, curvy, natural body, few tattoos, anal, etc). Someone might be able to send you in the right direction for an escort who meets that profile.
It's Sao Paulo! They have everything. ;)
Steve 9696
08-23-19, 03:10
Thought my SP buddies might enjoy these funny moments from the last year. Due to not speaking the same native language.
Thifany. My Brazilian unicorn that I flew to London. Two days in she confesses to me she is not sleeping well due to my snoring. So we agree to get some earplugs when we are out souvenir shopping. As we walk down the street after a few shops she says "I almost forgot. I need to get tampons!”
And I think oh fuck me in the ass, really? I mean we have theee days left and she gets her period?
After we start talking about where to get them etc it becomes clear she means EARPLUGS. Just an error in translation! Well I guess they both fill holes, so maybe the same in Português ? Anyhow. We both got a laugh.
Kendall. Diva London. I had been with Kendall the prior year. So when I showed up at her flat she recognized me. But she couldn't quite place me. Then she says as only a frank Romanian WG would: "oh I remember you. You fuck a lot. ".
So I say, yeah I mean I travel a lot and so I see a lot of girls. And she says "no no. I mean you fuck a very long time!" Hahaha. LOL. Cracked me up.
Cambria. Diva London. We are getting into it and she is on top and starts licking and sucking my ear. I want to encourage her so I tell her it feels really good. To which she says "Yeah. Old people like that. ".
Mildly offended I offer, "well I'm not THAT old. ".
And she laughs and says "I didn't say OLD people. I said ALL people ". Hahaha. OMG I laughed so hard.
Anyhow just a few of my lost in translation moments.
AltoBomGosto
08-23-19, 14:24
This is my first time in the city and I realize not being fluent in Portuguese is brutal. I knew it was Winter time but I wasn't expecting it to be this cool. So far this city isn't stacking up to Rio circa 2015. I liked how you could chat / interview / party with chicas before the deed. Public transit is not for the faint of heart if it isn't within a 10 min. Walk within the metro station. Walking around town I would be surprised if I saw more than 5 hotties a hour. I checked out Tangara. I went here because guys spooked me Brooklin's lineup was underwhelming. Many Asian gents hanging out. The lineup was about 10 girls. Naturally the youngest and hottest chick (7.5) was busy. The other chicks were 6. 5's or below except for the tall 7 I considered until I saw her gut. I'm not a local so I'm not going to sit around for 2 hours to see their full lineup. It was already 8 o'clock. I decided I didn't mind spending a little extra coin so I ubered to Abobbara a shade before 7 p the next day. I liked the first menina Pollie and the 8th chick Julia. Between the two the madrina recommended Julia. Julia is tall and was wearing a sexy short dress. She said she is 23 and speaks Espanol and has medium brown hair. Possibly light braces on her teeth. We did CBJ, mish, CG, doggie. Stunningly she becomes tired during the deed. Being the nice guy I am and chalking it up to lack of chemistry I let her hit the shower at the 40 min. Mark. I did not tip even though I tipped all the Colombianas at the casas. The sex was so so. Not remotely like the hottest sex on the continent I was expecting. Especially since I could've had 3 comparable Colombians for that price. I'm not sure what market value is for a solid 8+ but I'm beginning to think around $R400 to 800..If you are in a rush better have a local wigman.
After one month in Buenos Aires I am back in Sao Paulo. Love the city of Buenos Aires but the mongering scene there is just not really that great. Only pulled the trigger 4 times and all of them were girls screened on Whatsapp. 4 ok sessions but nothing compared to Brazil. The bar and cafe scene are really dead and getting non pro's with minimal Spanish wasn't even in the cards. Although there were many traffic stopping Chica's walking around the streets. Shit I gained 12 pounds in one month. I couldn't help my self trying all of the great Paradillas, Northern Argentina Cazuelas, and Locros! Buenos Aires has arguably some of the best Pizza I have ever tasted. Only negative thing it was fucking freezing most of the days. I lived in the Colorado mountains for over 15 years and was never colder than the one month I spent in Buenos Aires.
OK first day back in Sao Paulo and I was horny as hell. 5 pm and started walking towards downtown, I passed a club called Skorpios (R. Nestor Pestana). I had never seen this place but I think it used to be where the old Kilt club was located. So I asked at the door what was going on. I thought it was a strip club but turns out it's a swinger club. Opens from 4 PM to 10 PM every day. OK WTF. R50 entry fee and they have a first floor bar and on the second floor 2 large beds. One bed open and the other behind a door which could be left open. Now for the clientele. Roughly about 20 guys and about 10 girls. All of the girls ranged from Hippo to Water Buffalo and way up there. Lots of tit grabbing, butt slapping, and surprisingly photos being taken but no real fucking. Thank God! Left after 1 beer and the barmaid would have been an interesting option if she was available. Asked if there is a 'best night' and got the standard Brazilian response 'mas o menos' every night.
Haven't heard much talk about the trash clubs in Sao Paulo but I had to unload big time, so after the freak show, I headed to American Bar at 345 Sao Joao. I had been meaning to try this place and thought this was a good time to explore. For those of you not familiar with the place it is 3 bars on different floors and then the bedrooms on the floors above them. The place is like Club 116 in Rio but much larger. Arrived about 6 pm and the place was packed on all floors. About 40 or 45 girls and maybe just as many guys. About 4 or 5 of them were solid 8's which surprised me. The rest ranged from 2 to 6 with a few 7's mixed in. Music not blaring loud so you can have a decent conversation. My hooker Portuguese is much better than my Spanish. Ordered a beer and almost immediately the idea of a dupla hit me. I haven't had one on my whole South American trip which I had started in May. So after my first beer and talking to a few Garotas, I decided on a real young thing (7) with huge tits. Who surprisingly spoke perfect English. I explained what I wanted and for her to pick a second girl. She picked her friend with even bigger tits. OK perfect. 30 minutes for R120 total for the 2 of them. Onto the upper floor bedrooms and was expecting those little cubicles with a small COT but was shocked to see a large bedroom with a queen. Lot's of room to move around. Yeah baby. I'm back in Brazil! Just a great time with 2 energetic young pieces of ass. I was juggling and sucking more tit than an entire ward of new born babies.
Why did I spent so much time in Buenos Aires? Oh well. I have another 2 months in Brazil with Ubatuba, Cabo Frio, Rio, and Fortaleza still planned. Not done with Sao Paulo for sure. Been to a lot of the clinicas here and some Rua Augusta boates and will definitely be doing them again. My favorite so far was Vani's Way, the lineup wouldn't stop. So much to choose from. But yesterday was really a lot of fun. I have another trash place on my to do list at are. Barão de Limeira, 134. It is the same setup as Uruguiana 24 in Rio. I was there just over a month ago and had a great time. It can be kind of intimidating because I really stick out in these places but what the hell. I don't bother any one and they don't bother me. Well that's all for now. I just have to try and figure out how I'm going to lose this weight with my love for Beer, Churrasco, and Feijoada!
RioHeart.
If you are in a rush better have a local wigman.That has dawned on me all week. Uber will have to be my Wingman to avoid traffic.
Thanks Wyatt for your advice. I decided to think outside the box and try a Prive. Made my maiden voyage to Prive Morambi. I was nervous because I didn't find any recent reports on this place. Lots of nearby shopping centers. 10 meninas for the presentation with 4-5 7's. That works. I chose Monica. Petite and cute. 27 years old. Some reason I thought she was Asian-Brazilian the first two times I saw her. She is not. And I didn't come here looking for hot Asian-Brasilenas even though that would work. Performance 7. 5/10. CBJ, mish, CG, doggie. I was happy with the performance and tipped her. I don't understand the local language but it seem my options were half hour for 150 or 2 hours for 350. This trip my endurance is crazy so a hour is nothing for me. I thought since I'm here I might as well do round 2 with another chica since the uber ride was already a sunk expense. I chose the tall, mulata, with died blonde hair, nose ring that was the first girl for my second presentation. Somehow the reception can't remember the first girl out of 4. Even crazier she is the tallest and the only one with a nose ring. When my second choice stepped out I decided to go with the flow. That has happened a few times this trip. I chose a shorty name Yura. 28 years old. Beautiful face. I'm realizing here small packages can have nice natural breasts. Finally, my long awaited BBJ. We do the normal positions and my time runs out. Session is 9/10. I am happy. I have to give Prive Morambi a glowing review. I think they should charge 180 for a hour. I wanted to return for third helpings but someone made me adventurous and put in my head a cheaper spot called Vani's way.
Haven't heard much talk about the trash clubs in Sao Paulo but I had to unload big time, so after the freak show, I headed to American Bar at 345 Sao Joao.Rua or Avenida Sao Joao 345?
So I checked out Casarao around 1:30 a on a weekend. I know this place could get pricey on a Brazil scale. At the door they broke down how the R40 consumable work. Roughly you get 3 beers versus the R20 dry. The dry is the safer bet to stay on budget if your not a heavy drinker. I know in Rio you should guard your key at Termaes. Some really hot chicks knew I was a newbie and they tried to shake me down. In Rio I let the girls and their amigas pour up as long as the drink isn't overly expensive. So by my math I drank a can of beer. My card should be down to R28. Then a hottie kept talking to me but the convo had growing pains due to the language barrier and I don't rely on Google. After awhile I offered her a beer, juice, or water a few times. After awhile we walk over to the counter and she presents her pink card (is this for garotas?) after I present my black card (hommes / punters?) After awhile I asked the bartender how much is on the card and he says 85. After running the possibilities through my head it dawns on me that the card is charging and they will collect when I exit. It's not a system where they theoretically deduct the R28 balance and collect the difference at the bar. I'm assuming the lady receives a kickback or commission since she presented her card too. It's not likely she switched cards with me. I'm assuming she ordered a roughly $20 USD drink. Coco water / Ciroc. Lesson learned do not offer gartoas drinks here because they are not going to let you skate off easy with a $10 drink. Casarao fits within my gringo budget as long as I don't let the garotas pull fast ones in Portuguese. I have no idea what their performance will be like. The hotties quoted me 250. Cool roughly $70 for a chick hotter than Tangara. Tangara charges roughly the same except you get an extra 20 minutes. And the room is included. There is an additional 50 for the room. If these chicks performances are good and I only had 1 night in town I would only go here. The chicks are as advertised. College aged hotties (8's). I didn't like the crowd. And they weren't playing enough Top 40 for me to get in the groove. But I didn't come here for the DJ. I like to take things slow and not dive head first into things except offering the big boobed garota a drink. The girl I wanted approached me. Twerked on me and kissed me. Once I understood the pricing structure I was tempted but cooler heads prevailed because I had already tossed up 2 garotas at a Prive 9 hrs. Earlier. I am no longer in my 20's and I didn't want to risk a surprise lack of performance with a commercial provider. I would only take that chance with a freebie or a girlfriend. If I run into the chick again or a hotter chick I may partake.
AltoBomGosto
08-24-19, 13:34
After one month in Buenos Aires I am back in Sao Paulo. Love the city of Buenos Aires but the mongering scene there is just not really that great. Only pulled the trigger 4 times and all of them were girls screened on Whatsapp. 4 ok sessions but nothing compared to Brazil. The bar and cafe scene are really dead and getting non pro's with minimal Spanish wasn't even in the cards. Although there were many traffic stopping Chica's walking around the streets. Shit I gained 12 pounds in one month. I couldn't help my self trying all of the great Paradillas, Northern Argentina Cazuelas, and Locros! Buenos Aires has arguably some of the best Pizza I have ever tasted. Only negative thing it was fucking freezing most of the days. I lived in the Colorado mountains for over 15 years and was never colder than the one month I spent in Buenos Aires..RH congratulations for your report.
Excellent report about your adventures, you dig gold when you have done a dupla for 180 reais. PM ME so we can exchange some different experiences for a really reasonable price. I would suggest you meet at Tangara, one of the best clinicas.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
08-24-19, 14:01
After one month in Buenos Aires I am back in Sao Paulo. Love the city of Buenos Aires but the mongering scene there is just not really that great. Only pulled the trigger 4 times and all of them were girls screened on Whatsapp. 4 ok sessions but nothing compared to Brazil. The bar and cafe scene are really dead and getting non pro's with minimal Spanish wasn't even in the cards. Although there were many traffic stopping Chica's walking around the streets. Shit I gained 12 pounds in one month. I couldn't help my self trying all of the great Paradillas, Northern Argentina Cazuelas, and Locros! Buenos Aires has arguably some of the best Pizza I have ever tasted. Only negative thing it was fucking freezing most of the days. I lived in the Colorado mountains for over 15 years and was never colder than the one month I spent in Buenos Aires..RH, You are right, I also don't post the names of the GDPs who are at the good clinicas like Redway who opened again totally restored, as well as Red massagens, Kamna massagens, Tangara, Yankin, Wanis way. And Espaco Vergueiro.
Yesterday I did a great dupla in Tangara for 240 (around 60 USD for two girls) reais for 45 minutes, a real bargain compared to the cost of the boites.
BTW girls were Gabi BH and Larissa. For more details PM me.
ABG.
Rua or Avenida Sao Joao 345?Avenida. Street is shut down because of construction but sidewalk still open.
Had to try Barão de Limeira, 134 yesterday and after walking up all of the steps to the 8th floor found a crazy, little older (probably late 30's), MILF. Very nice body. R30 for 15 minutes and to impress me in the little room she did a handstand on the COT while I played with her pussy. Two fingers in and if I could have somehow reached her mouth with my dick I would have. I didn't ask for it. But it was one for the books. That place is a Zoo!
Rioheart.
DreamCarnarvon
08-25-19, 00:29
I headed to American Bar at 345 Sao Joao. I had been meaning to try this place and thought this was a good time to explore. For those of you not familiar with the place it is 3 bars on different floors and then the bedrooms on the floors above them. The place is like Club 116 in Rio but much larger. Arrived about 6 pm and the place was packed on all floors. About 40 or 45 girls and maybe just as many guys. About 4 or 5 of them were solid 8's which surprised me. The rest ranged from 2 to 6 with a few 7's mixed in. Music not blaring loud so you can have a decent conversation. My hooker Portuguese is much better than my Spanish.
Why did I spent so much time in Buenos Aires? Oh well. I have another 2 months in Brazil with Ubatuba, Cabo Frio, Rio, and Fortaleza still planned. Not done with Sao Paulo for sure. Been to a lot of the clinicas here and some Rua Augusta boates and will definitely be doing them again. My favorite so far was Vani's Way, the lineup wouldn't stop. So much to choose from. But yesterday was really a lot of fun. I have another trash place on my to do list at are. Baro de Limeira, 134. It is the same setup as Uruguiana 24 in Rio. I was there just over a month ago and had a great time. It can be kind of intimidating because I really stick out in these places but what the hell. I don't bother any one and they don't bother me. Well that's all for now. I just have to try and figure out how I'm going to lose this weight with my love for Beer, Churrasco, and Feijoada!
RioHeart.Great report RH. I was in SP a couple months ago and I was exclusively hitting the clinicas with some online action. I will be back in SP soon for 3 more weeks. This time my main focus will be the boates and twitter girls. Of course I also do plan on hitting the clinicas but just not as much. Now I will have to also add American Bar and Barao de Limeira to my list. Whats the day and time to hit these two places?
Barao de Limeira, is the address Alameda Barao de Limeira? A few blocks from American Bar.
DreamCarnarvon
08-25-19, 01:31
Lesson learned do not offer gartoas drinks here because they are not going to let you skate off easy with a $10 drink. Casarao fits within my gringo budget as long as I don't let the garotas pull fast ones in Portuguese. I have no idea what their performance will be like. The hotties quoted me 250. Cool roughly $70 for a chick hotter than Tangara. Tangara charges roughly the same except you get an extra 20 minutes. And the room is included. There is an additional 50 for the room. If these chicks performances are good and I only had 1 night in town I would only go here. The chicks are as advertised. College aged hotties (8's).Hey Cool,
Great reporting. Yeah, in these club you have to be cautious not to be taken advantage by the girls. I think you mentioned that you don't speak any Portuguese. So that makes you even more of a target. Back when I was a newbie, any girl who asked me for a drink I always bought them one. Now, I'm very selective. I only buy drinks for girls that I know I will pull. Don't feel pressured that you always have to buy drinks.
I'm surprised most girls did CBJ on you, that has not been my experience. Ill be going to Colombia before going to Brasil. And from what I've been reading on the Colombia forum, CBJ is the norm there and girls typically will up charge in the room for BBBJ. I was in Bogota and Medellin about 4 years ago and I found the Colombian girls to be NOT on par with the Brazilian girls. Except this one girl I sessioned with in a casa in Medellin. She was a real sweetheart. I hope on this trip I will be able to find more girls like her in Colombia. I would like to add another country besides Brasil I could monger in.
Great report RH. I was in SP a couple months ago and I was exclusively hitting the clinicas with some online action. I will be back in SP soon for 3 more weeks. This time my main focus will be the boates and twitter girls. Of course I also do plan on hitting the clinicas but just not as much. Now I will have to also add American Bar and Barao de Limeira to my list. Whats the day and time to hit these two places?
Barao de Limeira, is the address Alameda Barao de Limeira? A few blocks from American Bar.Yes, Alameda Barao de Limeira. Not sure I'd go down there too late at night. Close by the area is (Princesa Isabel Square) known as Cracolandia (Crack Land). I was there at 2 pm with plenty of Garotas and I saw them arriving the whole time I was there. I was at the American Bar around 7 pm and I think the girl said they are open from 4 pm to midnight.
A little about the 134 Circus logistics:
9 floors.
2 really small bars (except 9th floor has only 1 bar) on each floor playing there own separate music.
About 7 to 10 girls on each floor. Cubicles off to the side of each bar. R5 for a beer.
So that's 17 bars and about 70 to 80 Garotas!! Range of girls are 1 to 6 with a few 7's.
Never saw anything above that but who knows they could have been busy in the cubicles.
I did move up and down the floors a few times and saw different Garotas each time. Some of the girls I gave them a 1 because they did have a mouth.
Prices R30 for each 15 minutes. So that's 8 US dollars! I can't handle more than 15 minutes in those cubicles. Everything is covered.
All accessible by a winding stairs (Reminds me exactly of Buenos Aires 85 if some of the older mongers remember that Rio Palace).
Probably best way to hit it, is just walk up to the top floor at first and then make your way down. If your Portuguese is good enough you can have some real fun talking to all of girls.
They are all dressed in lingerie or bikinis and are not shy about trying to get you in the sack.
I would much rather monger this way than getting someone cold off the internet who you have no idea if there is any chemistry.
Went to Rua Augusta boate last night. I didn't see a name of the place on the outside but it's real close to Hotel Shack. R15 entry which gets you 1 beer. 30 yr. Old white blonde from Goiana. Big white teeth smile and unbelievable natural set of everything. Jessica Rabbit. I can never stay away from these types even though my best sessions have all been with that girl next to you on the subway type who you would just love to see if she's any good. But she was just so sexy. R150 for 40 minutes. Covered blow job and couldn't get her to budge on this. Mechanical at first but damn it turned into what I all a trampoline fuck. Just for a second I think we were suspended in the air from our thrusting rhythm. I was exhausted after 20 minutes so spent the rest of the time just cuddling.
I'm resting Sunday but planning my Monday escapade right now. I have been Whatsapping back and forth with a porn star who says she works out of a love hotel Messalina hotel with other girls. It's near Tatuape metro. I might have to make a run over there and see what that's all about.
Rioheart.
DreamCarnarvon
08-25-19, 23:03
A little about the 134 Circus logistics:
9 floors.
2 really small bars (except 9th floor has only 1 bar) on each floor playing there own separate music.
About 7 to 10 girls on each floor. Cubicles off to the side of each bar. R5 for a beer.
So that's 17 bars and about 70 to 80 Garotas!! Range of girls are 1 to 6 with a few 7's.
Never saw anything above that but who knows they could have been busy in the cubicles.
I did move up and down the floors a few times and saw different Garotas each time. Some of the girls I gave them a 1 because they did have a mouth.
Prices R30 for each 15 minutes. So that's 8 US dollars! I can't handle more than 15 minutes in those cubicles. Everything is covered.
All accessible by a winding stairs (Reminds me exactly of Buenos Aires 85 if some of the older mongers remember that Rio Palace).
Probably best way to hit it, is just walk up to the top floor at first and then make your way down. If your Portuguese is good enough you can have some real fun talking to all of girls.
They are all dressed in lingerie or bikinis and are not shy about trying to get you in the sack..Funny, as I was reading your description of Barao de Limeira, I was like that sounds exactly like BA 85. Except I believe BA 85 had only 5 floors and just one bar on each floor. Loved that place except for the spiral steel staircase.
The majority were black girls. Back then I was still a newbie and I was only foreigner there so I was intimidated by some of the girls. My Portuguese was almost nonexistent back then as well. But I stall had some decent fucks there. Sad that its closed. Now I have to go all the way to VM if I want a cheap quickie. Just for nostalgia, I will have to pay Barao de Limeira a visit.
It seems to me like the best value for the money are the bars along Rua Augusta. Badly regret that I didn't visit them. But this time when I go back I will definitely make them a priority. Last time I stayed in AirBnBs in Santana. But this time I want to stay close to Rua Augusta. Do you have any recommendations as to areas in Centro that are relatively safe and / or areas to avoid?
I wish I could return a favor and give you some recommendations but you seem to know the ins and outs of SP much much better than I do. I will be in SP from the last week of September to mid October. If you are still in town, let me know, maybe we can meet and you can show me around.
SnarkHunter
08-26-19, 02:44
What advice do you have for a successful dupla? I'm looking forward to my first, this coming week. Will likely try it at either Tangara or AbboborA.
Yes, Alameda Barao de Limeira. Not sure I'd go down there too late at night. Close by the area is (Princesa Isabel Square) known as Cracolandia (Crack Land). I was there at 2 pm with plenty of Garotas and I saw them arriving the whole time I was there. I was at the American Bar around 7 pm and I think the girl said they are open from 4 pm to midnight.
.The building closes at about 9 pm.
Be very careful after dark, like you said, bad area.
My two attempted muggings in SP over the years happened around there.
Incidentally, while I was there once, a few years back, the police raided the place.
They crowded all the guys into an area of the building, took IDs from all the guys, and did a check of IDs.
Afterwards the head Police dude returned my ID and told me to enjoy, LOL.
They were doing a random raid looking for bad guys with warrants, etc.
What advice do you have for a successful dupla? I'm looking forward to my first, this coming week. Will likely try it at either Tangara or AbboborA.I have not done too many duplas, but when I have, they have all just been outstanding and given memories that will last for a lifetime! What was the key? Well, for sure this advice that I read from long ago was key. You pick a girl you like. But then you let her pick a girl she likes! That way, you know that both of the girls are going to be into it too. That's always worked for me, and I've been lucky enough to have been attracted enough to both the girls to desire banging the both of them. Hope that helps, and have fun!
What advice do you have for a successful dupla? I'm looking forward to my first, this coming week. Will likely try it at either Tangara or AbboborA.I have done many duos many times in German FKKs. They are fun because both of my heads are kept busy the whole time. I too do the same as Cane except I ask the first girl to discreetly point me to 2-3 of her friends (or who she is comfortable doing duo with), then I pick one of them I like. I am not sure if typical Clinica would have enough girls in the lineup to make it work.
Steve 9696
08-27-19, 02:55
I have done many duos many times in German FKKs. They are fun because both of my heads are kept busy the whole time. I too do the same as Cane except I ask the first girl to discreetly point me to 2-3 of her friends (or who she is comfortable doing duo with), then I pick one of them I like. I am not sure if typical Clinica would have enough girls in the lineup to make it work.Only had one dupla in Brazil. Echo the let her pick advice. If I may suggest my favorite Dupla position (thanks to Cambria and Kendall at Diva London) it goes as follows:
Position girl one on bed at edge on all fours — you standing on floor at edge of bed. You can enter her doggie or she can blow you. Girl two stands on bed and straddles girl one, facing you (kinda like she is riding girl1). Now you DFK girl2. And work her chest or pussy with your hands (when doing doggy you may have to grab girl ones hips — oh well).
This is just spectacular IMO. Best of luck!
I noticed there is not a lot of a discussion about extras except anal. Does it mean CIM is usually included in the price? What is the average cost for anal in clubs like Scandallo and casarao?
Is it necessary to buy electric converter to charge phone in SP?
Is anyone here going to be in SP later this week and early next week?
If you want consistent 8+ girls, you need to go to the top boates at night or book some well-reviewed escorts. Researching escorts will take a little time. The hot and popular escorts usually start at 400 reals. Some of the girls on PhotoAcompanhantes show their face. I believe sometimes the photos are verified.
If you don't have time, you could post a profile (i.e. tall, blonde, curvy, natural body, few tattoos, anal, etc). Someone might be able to send you in the right direction for an escort who meets that profile.
It's Sao Paulo! They have everything.Thanks for the advice. I'm coming to SP for the first time and won't have time to dig into the local scene to find diamonds in the rough. So I'll just be looking to hit the top boates at night. What boates would you suggest one hits to find the top talent?
Jimmy Boy 99
08-27-19, 09:01
Snip. Haven't heard much talk about the trash clubs in Sao Paulo but I had to unload big time, so after the freak show, I headed to American Bar at 345 Sao Joao. I had been meaning to try this place and thought this was a good time to explore. For those of you not familiar with the place it is 3 bars on different floors and then the bedrooms on the floors above them. The place is like Club 116 in Rio but much larger. Arrived about 6 pm and the place was packed on all floors. About 40 or 45 girls and maybe just as many guys. About 4 or 5 of them were solid 8's which surprised me. The rest ranged from 2 to 6 with a few 7's mixed in. Music not blaring loud so you can have a decent conversation. My hooker Portuguese is much better than my Spanish. Ordered a beer and almost immediately the idea of a dupla hit me. I haven't had one on my whole South American trip which I had started in May. So after my first beer and talking to a few Garotas, I decided on a real young thing (7) with huge tits. Who surprisingly spoke perfect English. I explained what I wanted and for her to pick a second girl. She picked her friend with even bigger tits. OK perfect. 30 minutes for R120 total for the 2 of them. Onto the upper floor bedrooms and was expecting those little cubicles with a small COT but was shocked to see a large bedroom with a queen. Lot's of room to move around. Yeah baby. I'm back in Brazil! Just a great time with 2 energetic young pieces of ass. I was juggling and sucking more tit than an entire ward of new born babies.
Snip.Googled American Bar at 345 Avenida Sao Joao. No results for American bar but Google maps shows the address to be Fazenda Grill. Next door at 343 there appears to be a door that might be the entrance to the place but there is no sign, just the number, like some clinicas that have no names displayed, just the address number. Is 343 the actual address? Also, the building seems to be covered in netting on Google maps. Was it like that when you went?
Googled American Bar at 345 Avenida Sao Joao. No results for American bar but Google maps shows the address to be Fazenda Grill. Next door at 343 there appears to be a door that might be the entrance to the place but there is no sign, just the number, like some clinicas that have no names displayed, just the address number. Is 343 the actual address? Also, the building seems to be covered in netting on Google maps. Was it like that when you went?https://www.google.com/maps/place/Av.+São+João,+345+-+Centro+Histórico+de+São+Paulo,+São+Paulo+-+SP,+01036-000/ at -23.544011,-46.6400278,17 z / data=!3 m1!4 b1!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x94 ce58515 cf51 cc7:0 xa67 f75 f21460 ecbe!8 m2!3 d-23.544011!4 d-46.6378391.
Is 343 the actual address? Also, the building seems to be covered in netting on Google maps. Was it like that when you went?Yeah the address is 343. The date on my google map street view is August 2017 so I don't think there is any netting now.
There is no name on the building and right now the entire street / plaza is under construction out front. But all of the sidewalks and businesses are still open. I did see a poster as you walk through the door advertising a Churrasco celebration soon, but I didn't look at it very closely and did not even check out the dates. There are many places clinicas / clubs / boates / bars all over this city with no names on the front.
Rioheart.
But this time I want to stay close to Rua Augusta. Do you have any recommendations as to areas in Centro that are relatively safe and / or areas to avoid?Stayed in Airbnb a block off Rua Augusta near Metro Higienopolis for 3 weeks. Felt safe and I walked around that area as late as 3 AM.
Have never been to Centro after 8 PM so would not really recommend the area. Used to go to an X-rated cinema downtown (it's now called Cinemão Stud G) where they had strip shows, live sex shows, and girls available for private and even public (blow jobs in the seats). Cinema is only for gay men now. Really different from any place that I've ever been in Sao Paulo. They had a full bar too!
Also will not be anywhere near Sao Paulo in September or October.
Rioheart.
Yeah the address is 343. The date on my google map street view is August 2017 so I don't think there is any netting now.
There is no name on the building and right now the entire street / plaza is under construction out front. But all of the sidewalks and businesses are still open. I did see a poster as you walk through the door advertising a Churrasco celebration soon, but I didn't look at it very closely and did not even check out the dates. There are many places clinicas / clubs / boates / bars all over this city with no names on the front.
Rioheart.Dammit I meant 345.
World Travel 69
08-27-19, 22:01
I came up with four names.
Which one is it?
Casarão American Bar.
Café Caléche American Bar.
Cafe American Bar.
Bahamas American Bar.
Googled American Bar at 345 Avenida Sao Joao. No results for American bar but Google maps shows the address to be Fazenda Grill. Next door at 343 there appears to be a door that might be the entrance to the place but there is no sign, just the number, like some clinicas that have no names displayed, just the address number. Is 343 the actual address? Also, the building seems to be covered in netting on Google maps. Was it like that when you went?
I came up with four names.
Which one is it?
Casaro American Bar.
Caf Calche American Bar.
Cafe American Bar.
Bahamas American Bar.I stopped in on a trash club once called Balneário American Bar. It was literally right next door to the more popular and well-reviewed Casarao American Bar that you have on your list.
Thanks for the advice. I'm coming to SP for the first time and won't have time to dig into the local scene to find diamonds in the rough. So I'll just be looking to hit the top boates at night. What boates would you suggest one hits to find the top talent?Start at Scandallo. If the prices overwhelm you, give Casarao a try.
You need to read up though and find out the typical negotiated rates. There's also a lot of good insight on how to screen the boate girls.
Hit Casaro last night at about 11 pm.
New set up since I last went.
You pay when you leave for the entrance, etc.
Seemed as though there were way more dudes than girls last night.
I spotted maybe 5 girls total that were attractive enough for me.
I was talking to one of the nicer looking girls, however, was not getting a good vibe.
So I followed my monger sense, and left her.
Decided to leave.
However, on my walk towards the door to leave, I spotted a sexy morena with cinnamon colored skin, thin but with a nice booty, and pretty nice breasts.
Her name was Bruna.
We talked and flirted a bit. I was really digging the vibe here with her.
She began very nice deep kissing and massaging and touching, etc.
I whispered in her ear that I had 200R total to go up and have fun, expecting her to counter offer me.
She said, great! 150R for her 40R for the room.
I said, great! Let's go!
Great time!
No line for the room, it was fairly early at about midnight.
She was fantastic, total GFE, total everything.
After finishing up, leaving the room, the line and wait for the rooms was very long.
Glad we got up there early.
So, here's a first for me.
She went downstairs first, I sat upstairs for maybe 10 minutes looking at the line of couples waiting for a room.
Interesting to watch.
After going downstairs, I decided to take a walk about the place before leaving.
Arriving downstairs, I spotted Bruna standing alone, she smiled when she saw me, called me over.
We talked a bit more and she began deep kissing me again. She is really good.
Anyway she says that she really wants to come home with me.
She didn't want to stay at the club.
I tell her that I didn't have enough to pay the bar fine or her.
She said that she'the pay the bar fine, and not to worry about paying her.
I was shocked.
I asked her if she really wanted to go, she said, sim! Yes!
So we left together, and she paid the 100R to leave.
I signed her into my hotel, got to the room and had another great, and longer make love session.
We slept well, woke up late, made love again, had lunch, and she just left in an Uber I ordered, with promises to see each other again soon.
Of course! Duh, LOL.
Great chemistry together.
P.S. . I did go to the ATM downstairs, though she never asked, and got her 300R.
100R for reimbursement of the bar fine, and 200R for her.
She was just so damn nice and good to leave her without anything.
Anyway, definitely a first for me, a girl paying a bar fine, to go home with me.
Crazy cool!
Is it necessary to buy electric converter to charge phone in SP?Based on googled info Brasil uses 110 v and 120 v electric outles.
I got to SP today, the hotel I am staying in has 120 v outles so I used my European electrical converter to change my phone.
If any new bees planning to visit SP and wondering if you need to buy some kind of electrical converter like I didq then now you know what you could do.
In one of the trip reports it was suggested to go to departures to find Uber stand. I did follow that suggestion without success. I think it is easier to find / catch Uber outside arrivals. Step out of the arrivals building. The The vehicle traffic move from your left to right. There are 2 pedestrian crossings to cross to the opposite side. Go to the leftmost one and cross and get to the 2nd platform. Book your ride from there and you will have a good view of vehicles coming towards you to easily identify your Uber.
Taxis are plentiful but I think having Uber on your phone would make getting around lot easier. I never used Uber until yesterday. I just installed the app, setup an account that is it. I have Google Fiber so I don't have to deal with switching SIMs etc. I have no issues ordering Uber rides even though I have US phone number.
Some of the ATMs at in arrivals just before you exit the building give out max of 1000 are with 29 are fee. Unless you really need cash there is no need to get cash from those ATM.
If you are staying in Moemo then you could get cash from one of the many available bank ATMs in the area. I used Bradesco. Their ATM Limit is much higher than the ones at Airport (I am not sure if the limit depends on the card you use). I saw many Bradesco location in the Moemo area I am staying.
Steve 9696
08-30-19, 01:55
In one of the trip reports it was suggested to go to departures to find Uber stand. I did follow that suggestion without success. I think it is easier to find / catch Uber outside arrivals. Step out of the arrivals building. The The vehicle traffic move from your left to right. There are 2 pedestrian crossings to cross to the opposite side. Go to the leftmost one and cross and get to the 2nd platform. Book your ride from there and you will have a good view of vehicles coming towards you to easily identify your Uber.
Taxis are plentiful but I think having Uber on your phone would make getting around lot easier. I never used Uber until yesterday. I just installed the app, setup an account that is it. I have Google Fiber so I don't have to deal with switching SIMs etc. I have no issues ordering Uber rides even though I have US phone number.Yeah not only is it convenient it is crazy cheap. You can drive all the way across SP (Scandallo to Casarao say) and it will be like $6 US. You cannot beat it.
MixedSalad07
08-30-19, 02:17
In one of the trip reports it was suggested to go to departures to find Uber stand. I did follow that suggestion without success. I think it is easier to find / catch Uber outside arrivals. Step out of the arrivals building. The The vehicle traffic move from your left to right. There are 2 pedestrian crossings to cross to the opposite side. Go to the leftmost one and cross and get to the 2nd platform. Book your ride from there and you will have a good view of vehicles coming towards you to easily identify your Uber.
Taxis are plentiful but I think having Uber on your phone would make getting around lot easier. I never used Uber until yesterday. I just installed the app, setup an account that is it. I have Google Fiber so I don't have to deal with switching SIMs etc. I have no issues ordering Uber rides even though I have US phone number.I fell into an Uber blackhole. After about a week or so (not my first trip here using Uber) I wasn't able to order rides anymore. Kept getting error messages. Reached out to Uber dozens of times to get a resolution. (My payment methods were legit, active and on notice of my travel). Result. Instead of saving my problem, Uber decided to kicke me off their platform.
There are other options for ride sharing also: 99 and Cabify are in SPas well.
I'd prefer to be using Uber, but I think they figured it was easier to kick me off their platform, then to solve the unresolvable error that the app kept reporting when I tried to order rides. Either that or they took issue with my travel. I think it was the former.
In any case, know that you have more than one option if you get stuck or want to use a company other than Uber for whatever reasons.
Yeah not only is it convenient it is crazy cheap. You can drive all the way across SP (Scandallo to Casarao say) and it will be like $6 US. You cannot beat it.Yup! My Uber ride from airport to Moemo is so long and took forever and it cost me less than 20 US.
The ease of ordering a ride with few finger tips on your phone standing pretty much anywhere in the city. No need to explain where your are at, which street, which corner etc. There is no way I can imagine calling a cab company in SP and order a ride in Portuguese (I speak zero Portuguese).
Polyamorist
08-30-19, 03:29
Yup! My Uber ride from airport to Moemo is so long and took forever and it cost me less than 20 US.The service is so popular that the north of Moema is referred to by locals as "Uberabinha". Just don't let the driver scam you into taking you to Uberlandia, as that will cost you a thousand dollars.
Based on googled info Brasil uses 110 v and 120 v electric outles.
I got to SP today, the hotel I am staying in has 120 v outles so I used my European electrical converter to change my phone.
If any new bees planning to visit SP and wondering if you need to buy some kind of electrical converter like I didq then now you know what you could do.Any hotel in Moema will supply you with an adaptor. GRU airport has 220 V, for example.
Hit Casaro last night at about 11 pm. I decided to leave. However, on my walk towards the door to leave, I spotted a sexy morena with cinnamon colored skin, thin but with a nice booty, and pretty nice breasts. Her name was Bruna. We talked and flirted a bit. I was really digging the vibe here with her. She began very nice deep kissing and massaging and touching, etc. I whispered in her ear that I had 200R total to go up and have fun, expecting her to counter offer me. She said, great! 150R for her 40R for the room. I said, great! Let's go! Great time!That was so inexpensive! Especially given current exchange rates. Exactly how much time did that get you in the room? And I know that can't be the standard going rate at Casarao now can it? How much do the girls normally ask for at Casarao these days for a solid hour in the room? And how about with anal thrown in? Prevailing Casarao pricing info from reliable field reporters greatly appreciated!
DreamCarnarvon
08-30-19, 21:38
Yup! My Uber ride from airport to Moemo is so long and took forever and it cost me less than 20 US.
The ease of ordering a ride with few finger tips on your phone standing pretty much anywhere in the city. No need to explain where your are at, which street, which corner etc. There is no way I can imagine calling a cab company in SP and order a ride in Portuguese (I speak zero Portuguese).I was able to get to all the casas in Vila mariana, Moema, Sao Judas, and Mooca with the Metro and some walking. I love SP's metro, it's so convenient and cheap. I will be staying at an AirBnB close to Rua Augusta this upcoming trip so I think I will be able to get by walking to Casarao and the other bars. I may be the minority here but if I had to choose I would much rather live in SP than Rio.
There is a much cheaper way of getting from GRU to Centro / Moema via public transportation. I used it on this past trip to and from the airport. My flight via COPA arrived at terminal #2. Exit the terminal and turn left and follow the sidewalk. After a short walk, you will come across a big bus stop sign that has the bus number 257 with the destination Tatuape Metro Station. Price of ticket is R6. 45. I think there is a bus every 20 or so minutes. The bus will drop you right in front of Tatuape metro station. From there you can the take the metro for R4. 30 and get to you final destination. The bus is very safe and both times the bus was full of passengers.
In Rio, Uber was not working for me, so I downloaded 99 instead and it was working flawlessly for me.
I fell into an Uber blackhole. After about a week or so (not my first trip here using Uber) I wasn't able to order rides anymore. Kept getting error messages. Reached out to Uber dozens of times to get a resolution. (My payment methods were legit, active and on notice of my travel). Result. Instead of saving my problem, Uber decided to kicke me off their platform.
There are other options for ride sharing also: 99 and Cabify are in SPas well.
Good to know there are other options.
That was so inexpensive! Especially given current exchange rates. Exactly how much time did that get you in the room? And I know that can't be the standard going rate at Casarao now can it? How much do the girls normally ask for at Casarao these days for a solid hour in the room? And how about with anal thrown in? Prevailing Casarao pricing info from reliable field reporters greatly appreciated!We were in the room for 40 minutes.
A couple of the girls I spoke with quoted, 250R for 40 min, plus the room cost of 40R
I didn't ask about an hour, or anal.
I don't believe it would be difficult to get 40 min for 200R plus the room, or 150R if a girl likes you.
The girl I went with didn't flinch at 150R for her.
I've been going to Casarao now for over 15 years.
There are the girls there that are Casarao pros, they'll sum up a guy quickly and get whatever they think they can get, depending on whether he's a knowledgeable Brazilian guy or an unsuspecting gringo, or something in between.
Then there are the generally sweeter girls, part timers, newbies, etc, who are just hoping to make something, and if they like you, will accept even less.
My take anyway.
AltoBomGosto
08-31-19, 11:22
What advice do you have for a successful dupla? I'm looking forward to my first, this coming week. Will likely try it at either Tangara or AbboborA.At Tangará ask Takuma, the manager, he will indicate girls who do a good job.
AltoBomGosto
09-01-19, 01:11
I noticed there is not a lot of a discussion about extras except anal. Does it mean CIM is usually included in the price? What is the average cost for anal in clubs like Scandallo and casarao?
Is it necessary to buy electric converter to charge phone in SP?
Is anyone here going to be in SP later this week and early next week?Much easier to find girls who perform BBBJ / CIM in clinicas than in the boites. I normally go to Tangara when I'm after a good BBBJ and CIM. Normally a tip of 30 up to 50 reais is expected from the girls. All included for 220 reais girl + room for onr hour. This is a fraction of what you will pay in a boite!
Normally the hotels supply you whit an electric converter for your charger. Voltage is 110 V 60 Hz in São Paulo.
PM me for details. I can be your wingman as I live in SP.
ABG.
AltoBomGosto
09-01-19, 01:23
This afternoon I went to Tangara decided to do a great dupla with to girls. One blonde and the other an ebony mulata.
Cost 220 reais 45 minutes all included; romo and the two girls. A fraction of the price you'll pay at a boite!
One of the best duplas I ever had, the girls did interact very well, both BBBJ and CIM lovers. DATY also is appreciated.
Pm me for details. I cannot post my phone or whatsapp on the open board.
ABG.
Hey, I'm thinking of checking out the Sao Paulo scene for the first time. I've never hired a woman before so I'm completely new to this. I'm not interested in boates or similar establishments so I've been looking at sites like Agenda31, SPlove, Confrariars, Clubmodel etc. I've scanned threads pretty thoroughly but haven't noticed much talk about those as the focus amongst forum users seems to be mostly on the clubs.
I'm looking for advice as to what to do / not do specific to contacting a girl through one of these sites, proper etiquette / precautions and general safety. I'm unsure if it would be a better course of action to go to one of their flats or have one come to my hotel room. I expect to be staying somewhere in Jardins in an upscale though not luxury hotel.
I'm also curious as to what the difference is between the women and sites I mentioned vs Photoacompanhantes and what can be found there. I'm unsure if the aforementioned sites are agencies or what.
I've done some research on Guiaadulto and GPguia to see the prices being charged by those I'm most interested in.
I speak very little Portuguese so I would be communicating in English.
Also, should I be wary of the ones who only have pro photos on sites like Agenda31 but no selfies or Twitter accounts to be found?
Thanks for the help.
MixedSalad07
09-01-19, 11:52
After getting tired of seeing the same faces on the Moema Rectangle Tour, I decided to try something a little different. For those of you who don't know what the Moema Rectangle is, it's the following (can't really draw a rectangle properly with this forum interface) clinicas all within walking distance of each other:
1) Prime (Av Irai 511) ========================> 2) Miruna's (Av Miruna 644)
4) Enjoy (Rua Condessa do Pinhal, 279) <============= 3) Abbobora (Alameda dos Guaramomis 1275)
I couldn't really find any reviews of this Doutora Oyama massage place on GpGuia and only found some 10 year old reviews on ISG. Apparently, this place has been around since 1970! I went to this place on a Friday afternoon at 5 pm. I was greeted by the receptionist who was very nice and offered me water, coffee, etc. She took me to a small room with a wall of pictures of 8 different girls. Just the typical shots of them in lingerie or whatever and not too touched up. I asked about a few of them such as how old they were and if they had natural or silicone tits. She answered all my questions so I chose a petite morena. How it works is you pay 250 reais to the house and then pay for extras with the girl..Had two sessions here recently. Both sessions were good. No real surprises. The second time I went a different masseuse gave me CBJ. Her massage was good but seemed more mechanical than my previous session, so I wasn't surprised she threw the condom on.
Agree with AznSafado. If you want a decent massage as well as FS this is an option to consider.
MixedSalad07
09-02-19, 19:21
Had two sessions here recently. Both sessions were good. No real surprises. The second time I went a different masseuse gave me CBJ. Her massage was good but seemed more mechanical than my previous session, so I wasn't surprised she threw the condom on.
Agree with AznSafado. If you want a decent massage as well as FS this is an option to consider.The masseuse who gave CBJ went by Leticia (or something similar). I probably could have objected but it wasn't a deal breaker for me. The massage was (part of) the reason I went there vs another clinica.
Sessioned at Tangara for the first time. BBBJ, CIM, decent experience, just not my go to establishment. The line up and facilities aren't the best. In any case, I was treated very well.
There is a much cheaper way of getting from GRU to Centro / Moema via public transportation. I used it on this past trip to and from the airport. My flight via COPA arrived at terminal #2. Exit the terminal and turn left and follow the sidewalk. After a short walk, you will come across a big bus stop sign that has the bus number 257 with the destination Tatuape Metro Station. Price of ticket is R6. 45. I think there is a bus every 20 or so minutes. The bus will drop you right in front of Tatuape metro station. From there you can the take the metro for R4. 30 and get to you final destination. The bus is very safe and both times the bus was full of passengers.Funny, that's exactly how I get to and from the airport. Even better if you have a night flight out, you can metro to Tatuape Metro and there is a love motel Messalina about 50 yards behind the 257 stop. So you can spend 4 hours there for R85 and order in a girl and then walk across the street to the bus and be at the airport 40 minutes later.
Rioheart.
There is a much cheaper way of getting from GRU to Centro / Moema via public transportation. I used it on this past trip to and from the airport. My flight via COPA arrived at terminal #2. Exit the terminal and turn left and follow the sidewalk. After a short walk, you will come across a big bus stop sign that has the bus number 257 with the destination Tatuape Metro Station. Price of ticket is R6. 45. I think there is a bus every 20 or so minutes. The bus will drop you right in front of Tatuape metro station. From there you can the take the metro for R4. 30 and get to you final destination. The bus is very safe and both times the bus was full of passengers.Thanks for sharing.
I am now sitting in my hotel room, waiting for a girl from SPlove to come. Anyway, I met this girl few months ago, and at that time she only wanted 2 k reais for the whole day. And this time when I come back. When I tell her 2 k for the whole night again, she refused, and wanted more. Like 2. 8 k. Greedy. I know at this point, it is time for me to change girls. It is her loss. I told her the last time I gave you the same thing, and she said last time is the past. LOL, well screw her. It is her loss and she does not have any customer for today, but still want to be greedy.
Anyway, I am planning to go to Scandallo or other clubs tonight. PM me if you are currently in SP and would like to drink a few, and chat.
I am now sitting in my hotel room, waiting for a girl from SPlove to come. Anyway, I met this girl few months ago, and at that time she only wanted 2 k reais for the whole day. And this time when I come back. When I tell her 2 k for the whole night again, she refused, and wanted more. Like 2. 8 k. Greedy. I know at this point, it is time for me to change girls. It is her loss. I told her the last time I gave you the same thing, and she said last time is the past. LOL, well screw her. It is her loss and she does not have any customer for today, but still want to be greedy.
Anyway, I am planning to go to Scandallo or other clubs tonight. PM me if you are currently in SP and would like to drink a few, and chat.It would help to disclose this so others don't get caught up in this too.
One reason for the price increase could be that this year has been pretty slow for independents. So she's just trying to grab what she can.
Brazilian loucura. Economy slows, raise prices.
Jib Reach.
It would help to disclose this so others don't get caught up in this too.
One reason for the price increase could be that this year has been pretty slow for independents. So she's just trying to grab what she can.
Brazilian loucura. Economy slows, raise prices.
Jib Reach.She is a good person, so I will not disclose her. Only thing is she is not willing to come down with the price. Still stuck at $400 reais per hour mentality for 4 hours, 6 hours, 8 hours is still the same.
I met another girl yesterday from website. And she only wanted 1500 from 6 to 12 am, when I ask her what about to 2 am she said 1200. I was quite surprised.
CharmingIL
09-04-19, 19:44
Hey, I'm thinking of checking out the Sao Paulo scene for the first time. I've never hired a woman before so I'm completely new to this. I'm not interested in boates or similar establishments so I've been looking at sites like Agenda31, SPlove, Confrariars, Clubmodel etc. I've scanned threads pretty thoroughly but haven't noticed much talk about those as the focus amongst forum users seems to be mostly on the clubs.
I'm looking for advice as to what to do / not do specific to contacting a girl through one of these sites, proper etiquette / precautions and general safety. I'm unsure if it would be a better course of action to go to one of their flats or have one come to my hotel room. I expect to be staying somewhere in Jardins in an upscale though not luxury hotel.
I'm also curious as to what the difference is between the women and sites I mentioned vs Photoacompanhantes and what can be found there. I'm unsure if the aforementioned sites are agencies or what.
SPLove, ClubModel and Private55 are the most trustable websites to find independent girls in Sao Paulo.
PhotoAcompanhantes you can find cheaper options but there are many fake girls there, so you got to be careful. If you're looking through PhotoAcompanhantes, make sure the girl have some good reviews at GPGuia or a verified profile.
On Twitter you can find good options too and it's also trustable because girls post selfie pics and videos, etc.
Whenever you're contacting these girls, just be clear and straight to the point. Something like "Hey, I saw your profile / ad at_ and would like to get more info about your services."
Most independent girls advertising at websites like SPLove, ClubModel and Private55 have their own places, their places / flats are usually located at Jardins or Moema area. Some girls in Twitter usually don't have their own places / flats, so you can ask them to go to your hotel.
You can try to use Google Translate to text them, but also some girls can speak some decent English.
Stayed in Airbnb a block off Rua Augusta near Metro Higienopolis for 3 weeks. Felt safe and I walked around that area as late as 3 AM.
Also will not be anywhere near Sao Paulo in September or October.
Rioheart.Is October a bad time to visit Sao Paulo?
She is a good person, so I will not disclose her. Only thing is she is not willing to come down with the price. Still stuck at $400 reais per hour mentality for 4 hours, 6 hours, 8 hours is still the same.
I met another girl yesterday from website. And she only wanted 1500 from 6 to 12 am, when I ask her what about to 2 am she said 1200. I was quite surprised.Fair enough.
The pricing that makes me shake my head is 400 the first hour (200 per half hour), next half hour is 100, fourth half hour is 150. Defoe's logic.
Jib Reach.
Steve 9696
09-05-19, 14:08
SPLove, ClubModel and Private55 are the most trustable websites to find independent girls in Sao Paulo.
PhotoAcompanhantes you can find cheaper options but there are many fake girls there, so you got to be careful. If you're looking through PhotoAcompanhantes, make sure the girl have some good reviews at GPGuia or a verified profile.
On Twitter you can find good options too and it's also trustable because girls post selfie pics and videos, etc.
Whenever you're contacting these girls, just be clear and straight to the point. Something like "Hey, I saw your profile / ad at_ and would like to get more info about your services."
Most independent girls advertising at websites like SPLove, ClubModel and Private55 have their own places, their places / flats are usually located at Jardins or Moema area. Some girls in Twitter usually don't have their own places / flats, so you can ask them to go to your hotel.
You can try to use Google Translate to text them, but also some girls can speak some decent English.If you do go on photaacompanhantes and fancy petite Latinas Mary Ninfeta is super pretty and an oral nympho. Her BBBJ with CIM and swallow is really spectacular. Nice set of natural cee-dee cups and really sweet to boot.
Is October a bad time to visit Sao Paulo?No, it's as good as any time.
My 6 night trip to SP and Foz do Igurzu.
Airport to hotel:
I arrived in Sao Paulo's GRU airport. I exited arrivals building by walking through sliding glass door and went to second platform / side walk after crossing 2 sets of traffic lanes. Using Uber app I requested a ride. I never used Uber prior to this trip. I installed the app and setup the account prior to arriving in Brazil. My ride arrived in few minutes and took me to my hotel in Moemo. Airport to Moemo usually takes and hour but my ride took close to 2 hours because of heavy morning rush hour traffic.
I got to a different location of terminal when I arrived GRU by a domestic flight from Foz do Iguazu. Finding Uber stand is much easier outside arrivals building. After exiting arrivals, crossed first set of traffic lanes to take Uber. There is a big User sign there in case if you wondering where the Uber stand is.
Accommodation:
I stayed in Moemo. I could have stayed in any hotel in the area as I had no plans to bring any guests. But I stayed in 2 hotels that were frequently mentioned in the forum by other members.
I stayed one of the superior apartments in Mercure So Paulo Moema Times Square Hotel for couple of nights. The room I stayed was clean, very roomy and with decent size bath room with big shower. As other members had indicated the hotel room walls are very thin almost like they didn't exist. I could hear all the traffic, airplane and nearby loud construction noises. I read some reviews complaining about bad rooms which concerned me a bit. Thanks Nordico who generously reached out to me and suggested to take superior apartment.
Other hotel I stayed was Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera, which is right next to Ibirapuera mall. The room I stayed felt like sound proofed. I did't hear any traffic or airplane noise even tough the planes flew very low almost touching hotel building. Bathroom was small especially Shower.
Local transport:
I used Uber for all of my local transport need in SP as well as in Foz do Iguazu. It was very convenient, safe and inexpensive.
Safety:
I was bit concerned about safety before the visit. Accordingly I was selective in things I did and places I visited. In general Moemo area, in and around Av. Ibirapuera, seemed very safe during day and night. I walked to Prime and Abbobora clinics. The only other clinic I visited was Tangara to which I Ubered.
Restaurants:
There are many restaurants in Moemo area. Ibirapuera mall has a big food count with tons of options in cuisine.
Convenience stores / coffee shops:
I saw at least one supermarket for every few blocks. There are few Starbucks in the area.
Banks and ATM:
There are plenty of options in Moemo. I used only Bradesco bank locations in Moemo based one the posts by Rovnak.
Language / Communication:
Only places I could consistently find individuals spoke English were in Hotel registration desks. I speak no Portuguese, so it was difficult to converse with people I needed to communicate / interact with. Translate apps on my mobile phone definitely helped getting point across. Translate app is a must for those who lack Portuguese language skills. Make sure you download the language for offline use so the app can be used without WiFi / internet connection.
People interaction:
All interactions with Brazilians very pleasant except for the scumbags boate Casarao employees I dealt with (details in part-2 of the trip report). People I interacted with, except the exception I indicated before, always had smile on their face which made dealing with them nice, inviting and pleasant. In spite of the language barrier people were very helpful.
Sightseeing:
I didn't do any in SP. My afternoons were spent walking to various clinics in Moemo area to get health checkups to make sure my liver in good condition after all the drinking I did in boates during previous night (LOL). You know, you have to be very careful not to get too sick in a foreign country. SP had me covered with ideally located clinics.
I did visit Foz do Iguazu. I spent 2 nights, visited Iguazu falls from Brazilian as well as Argentinian side. I have never seen so many waterfalls in one area. The views from both countries were spectacular. I did do boat rides on both sides (Brazil and Argentina). Boat rides from both sides are similar for most part except the Argentina side is way better. Argentina side boat ride covered all the falls Brazilian side boat ride did plus the boat went under (as close as they can without capsizing the boat) one of the bigger water falls, which was amazing. If you can do only one boat ride then just do Argentinian side.
Devils throat is breath taking. You can view it only from Argentinian side, not from Brazil.
I thought 2 days was enough to cover both sides. Yes it is, if one want to hit main trails and take photographs from view points along way. For most part I was focused on taking photos than enjoying unique and spectacular scenery. Also there are many trails I had no time to take to view the falls from different angles. In hindsight I wish I had stayed 2 more nights.
On to fun activities in part-2.
Day-1:
Clinic Prime:
First day evening I walked to Prime Clinic. Woman at the counter greeted me in Portuguese. I asked if she speaks English. She said no. I proceeded and sat on one of the couches. Girls one by one came out and introduced themselves giving their name. Many forum members warned in their post to be attentive to catch their names (or order of appearance) and remember them so you could later request her by name. Girls came out like a flash and returned the same way. In spite of keeping all my senses on high alert it was too much to process. I remember girl name up until she turns around and I checkout her backyard. That process repeated for 8-10 girls were in the lineup. By the end of the lineup display I couldn't remember name of the only girl I liked.
This whole lineup thing repeats every time a new client walks in. So if you forgot to remember a girls name, you can wait for a new client to arrive or request to have the lineup shown again.
Anyway I got out of Prime without any action.
Clinic Tangara:
I Ubered to Tangara that evening. Tangara is much bigger with 20-30 girls. It was crowded with many clients. Similar lineup rigmarole. I didn't like anyone. The optics were lower than Prime. Only 1 or 2 girls spoke English whom I was not interested in. After waiting for a while I picked Sophira, a 19 yo cute girl with dangling septum ring. We went to room with attached shower. She was bit annoyed that I couldn't speak Portuguese. She wasn't much interested in using translator app to bridge the communication gap either. She was all business. As soon as I sat on bed after taking shower she jumped on me and shelved her tongue deep in my throat. I usually enjoy that sort of thing but I planned not to do kissing or BBBJ in clinics. Knowing very well I would break this lass's heart, I asked her to slowly pull her tongue out of my throat and eventually from my mouth. Also I gently warned her not to do any encores.
She had nice body, bit smaller tits and good firm butt. I suited up, she started sucking with chewing gum still in her mouth. I guess she was determined to break the cover with chewing gum to keep action as close to natural as possible. I asked her to throw the gum before my cover was blown. Then I rode her for half hour. Who am I kidding! I was done in few minutes. In my defense this was my first of the trip. I don't remember exactly what I paid for 30 minutes. Something like 130 BR or 160 BR.
Boete Scandallo:
I Ubered to the club at around 1 am. I checked-in. I was given a black card to track my expenses in the club. Club entry fee was 250 BR out of which 150 BR was mine to spend in the club. I took elevator to get to the club one floor up. Wow! Very posh club!. Very high ceilings (50+ feet maybe), very loud music with live band, bar stretching almost the length of huge main lounge, and elegantly dressed gorgeous girls every where wiggling their butts. Club was packed with men and girls. I would visit this club and pay the entrance, if not for anything else, just for the experience and to enjoy limitless eye-candy.
This by far the swankiest club I have visited in Brazil, NA and Europe. It was very luxurious in every respect.
There is an outdoor area with its own bar. Part of this outside area was covered and most of it open air with part garden. One could spend time in this area when tired of load music inside. Of course there were plenty of girls in this area too.
It is hard to tell but there were at least 150+ girls on this night. Lot of them were beautiful. I don't use number system to rate beauty but I have to agree with members reported to have most 8, 9 and 10's. I saw hotness in every direction I looked. Girls were almost light skinned. All shapes and sizes. One should be able to find that fits the bill. Blondes, brunettes, redhead, long haired, short haired, curly haired, big boobed, big assed, cute, rugged and on and on.
Drinks were expensive but not by USA and European standards. For a place like this one has to expect that sort of thing. I had couple of drinks. I spoke using translator app to one 21 yo girl while sitting outside area. She was very cute, a much prettier version of Miley Cyrus. She quoted 750 BR. I had not interest in sessioning in this place that night so I spent couple of hours before calling it a night. But fate has other ideas. A lesson awaits.
After stepping out of the club I changed my mind and decided to go to Casarao instead of getting back to hotel. I am glad and not glad about this decision for reasons I detail below.
Boete Casarao:
I got to the club around 3:30 am. I picked 40 BR option for entry which includes 20 BR consumable. Got a card and got in. Club is very small and narrow with small 1 (may be 2) small bar (s). It has even smaller and narrower basement with small bar. As one would expect the drink prices are cheaper.
The optics of girls are noticeably much much lower than Scandallo. There are pretty ones here and there if you search the entire club. Most of the girls were run-of-the-mill you would typically find in German FKKs.
I spent 2 hours with out even realizing looking for someone to room with. During this time I made a note the very few pretty ones in the club never to picked up. They kept hustling a man before moving to another. I didn't think much of it at that time maybe because of all the scotch I have been consuming that night. As I was preparing to leave I saw one of the prettier girls who I have seen few time during my time in club (one of those never got picked up). I hoped she spoke English but she didn't. So I used app to communicate. She said everything is OK except finger in pussy / ass and anal. We agreed for 250 BR for her + $40 BR for room. Rooms were upstairs so I had to close my account before getting there.
There was a long wait for room. Eventually got to the room. She asked me for money upfront. That should have rung alarm bells but my little head is in full control of the situation and scotch is in full control of my big head. I paid and we both of use showered. She had a nice set of tits and body. We kissed a bit. I make my way down to her treasure island. I liked what I saw as I started my inspection she covered her pussy with hand saying not finger. Both my hands holding her legs and there is not intent or indication that I was going to finger her. But she kept repeating. I told her I wasn't going to finger her but just look at her treasure. But she kept repeating nooooooooo-finger mantra. To keep things moving I asked me to give me BJ for which she kept squeezing my shaft and did nothing else. I told her to put it in her mouth for which I got no response. I realized I picked a scammer. Yes, I could work with (convince, beg etc.) one way or other to get to finish. That's not my style. I got up dressed and left the room.
I went and tried to explain what happened to the counter where I paid room fee. All of a sudden 3 individual at the counter totally lost the capability to at least understand. They had no problem understanding me when paid the room fee and ordered drink while waiting for room.
Then I go down to the countered where I checked-in to enter club. Same routine. I asked the person to get someone who speaks English. They present one older guy. I explained what happened what happened but the person kept saying nothing can be done without know who the girl is and her side of the story. Right that moment the girl just walk in. I showed her to the guy who spoke English. She says few Portuguese words and walks into club. The English speaking guy told me what she said settled the issue and nothing can be done. I asked him what she said to which I got no answer. My guess was she reminded him of his cut. I got stubborn and decided to see what other BS the club management would throw at me. I just wanted see if the problem is systemic or not. If it is systemic then I know I should never visit Casarao again. For me it was a lose of about $65, not a bit deal.
On the other end of the main check-in desk there is another desk with a person in suite. Unfortunately he didn't speak English either. But I pestered him a bit so he could get some to bridge the language gap. Some tall chap appeared and kept she could do little without knowing who the girl was (remember this is 2nd person repeating same mantra). Then I used my app to ask the person in suite if he is the owner or an employee to care the clubs reputation being ruined by these scammers. He happened to be one of the club managers. Why would he care?. Eventually the tall individual repeated said Sorry for what happened and he was helpless. I saw outside, it may be about 5:30 am, first light is breaking as a sign of brighter things to come. I ordered Uber and got back to hotel.
I was disappointed the night ended disastrously. I will take $65 lessons any day. I just hope to avoid the ones that cost $300+. But I was glad it was an inexpensive lesson to wake me up so I can raise my guards up.
Things did indeed looked up from day-2.
Continued in part-3.
SPLove, ClubModel and Private55 are the most trustable websites to find independent girls in Sao Paulo.
PhotoAcompanhantes you can find cheaper options but there are many fake girls there, so you got to be careful. If you're looking through PhotoAcompanhantes, make sure the girl have some good reviews at GPGuia or a verified profile.
On Twitter you can find good options too and it's also trustable because girls post selfie pics and videos, etc.
Whenever you're contacting these girls, just be clear and straight to the point. Something like "Hey, I saw your profile / ad at_ and would like to get more info about your services."
Most independent girls advertising at websites like SPLove, ClubModel and Private55 have their own places, their places / flats are usually located at Jardins or Moema area. Some girls in Twitter usually don't have their own places / flats, so you can ask them to go to your hotel.
You can try to use Google Translate to text them, but also some girls can speak some decent English.CharmingIL,
Thanks for getting back to me. Yeah, the PhotoAcompanhantes website seems more like a free-for-all which. To me. Indicates there is more potential for something sketchy which is something I'the like to avoid.
My plan for messaging anyone would be getting straight to the point, I don't want to waste anyone's time or seem that I am not serious.
I'm curious though, if I can't find any selfies or a Twitter account of the girls I like on SPLove etc. Is asking for a selfie / video or two considered OK? I'm not out to collect photos of these girls but I do want to make sure the pro photos that have been photoshopped don't differ extremely from reality.
Also, is there generally any disadvantage in going to one's flat instead of to my hotel?
Thanks.
MixedSalad07
09-06-19, 05:48
I had two very positive experiences recently with GPS from Twittter. I basically follow O andralinho on twitter. I figure whoever he retweets is legit (tho all may not suit my taste).
Both were out calls to my hotel. Initial contact was made on WA. They knew from my number and language ability I wasn't Brazilian. It didn't seem to be a disadvantage. For One I was able to walk the girl up. The other I was asked to register her at the desk. The ladies were very kind. I was expecting more attitude but they were polite and courteous. They were ready for action too. DFK, DATY, CIM for both. Videos and pictures without face were OK. Both were great experiences. Both were 2 h sessions.
Once I get DM capability I can share more info with contributing senior members.
MixedSalad07
09-06-19, 06:05
Went back to Scandallo. Wanted to repeat with a Twitter GP. She had set up a dulpa with a friend but the friend got sick and couldn't make it. I was going to meet her at a motel but got cold feet about the arrangement and cancelled at the last minute. Felt bad about cancelling but whatever.
Went to Scandallo with the idea of a dulpa. Arrived early, had dinner (which was very good) and entertained a few ladies who passed by my table. One really caught my attention so I invited her to sit with me. After a dinner (she had ordered her own food), we flirted a bit. I asked her if she had friends and told her what I liked. Between the restaurant and the other areas (the boate wasn't open yet--early), I met maybe 5 or 6 girls she knew. Nothing really enticed me enough so I settled on going to the room with her. She proved to be all I needed.
The session was probably the "slowest" I've had in Brazil. Very sensual. Easily the best BBBJ of my life. DFK, CIM and COB. Afterwards we chilled in the room for a bit. Lost track of time but hadn't gone over. As someone recommended earlier I offered her a drink downstairs as a "tip" / "reward".
We chilled in the boate for a bit. She indicated that she had "bagged her fish" so she wasn't pressed on another session. Introduced me to some more of her friends. She entertained some of my questions about the set up there. For example, I asked it it was taboo for girls to admit that they've had ass implants. She laughed and agreed with my POV. Pointed out the cutie who was mediocre my last session there. She broke my neck again, but won't make that pick again for sure.
Eventually I excused myself to leave. She walked me out to the elevator. Could have easily chilled with her a lot longer had I had the time.
Definitely more GFE. Awesome session. She was open to pics in the restaurant (took a selfie on my phone AND in the room).
....... As soon as I sat on bed after taking shower she jumped on me and shelved her tongue deep in my throat. I usually enjoy that sort of thing but I planned not to do kissing or BBBJ in clinics. Knowing very well I would break this lass's heart, I asked her to slowly pull her tongue out of my throat and eventually from my mouth. Also I gently warned her not to do any encores.................When sessioning a working girl one should try not to think that her tongue was recently wrapped around some bloke's dick; that would lessen the enjoyment.
Boete Scandallo:
I Ubered to the club at around 1 am. I checked-in. I was given a black card to track my expenses in the club. Club entry fee was 250 BR out of which 150 BR was mine to spend in the club. I took elevator to get to the club one floor up. Wow! Very posh club!. Very high ceilings (50+ feet maybe), very loud music with live band, bar stretching almost the length of huge main lounge, and elegantly dressed gorgeous girls every where wiggling their butts. Club was packed with men and girls. I would visit this club and pay the entrance, if not for anything else, just for the experience and to enjoy limitless eye-candy.This by far the swankiest club I have visited in Brazil, NA and Europe. It was very luxurious in every respect.
There is an outdoor area with its own bar. Part of this outside area was covered and most of it open air with part garden. One could spend time in this area when tired of load music inside. Of course there were plenty of girls in this area too. It is hard to tell but there were at least 150+ girls on this night. Lot of them were beautiful. I don't use number system to rate beauty but I have to agree with members reported to have most 8, 9 and 10's. I saw hotness in every direction I looked. Girls were almost light skinned. All shapes and sizes. One should be able to find that fits the bill. Blondes, brunettes, redhead, long haired, short haired, curly haired, big boobed, big assed, cute, rugged and on and on..Lalabo,
Thanks for your outstanding and accurate reporting so far. Too bad about the foul scene at Casarao. But can't for the life of me understand why you chose to skip having sex with one of the many, many hotties at Scandallo! Man! How could you resist? I find Bomboa to be competitive with Scandallo, but as you saw, optics-wise Casarao can't hold a candle to Scandallo on most nights. And throw in a scam here and there and. Oh well! There's always day 3 right? Ha!
Boete Casarao:
As I was preparing to leave I saw one of the prettier girls who I have seen few time during my time in club (one of those never got picked up). I hoped she spoke English but she didn't. So I used app to communicate. She said everything is OK except finger in pussy / ass and anal. We agreed for 250 BR for her + $40 BR for room. Rooms were upstairs so I had to close my account before getting there.
There was a long wait for room. Eventually got to the room. She asked me for money upfront. That should have rung alarm bells but my little head is in full control of the situation and scotch is in full control of my big head. I paid and we both of use showered. She had a nice set of tits and body. We kissed a bit. I make my way down to her treasure island. I liked what I saw as I started my inspection she covered her pussy with hand saying not finger. Both my hands holding her legs and there is not intent or indication that I was going to finger her. But she kept repeating. I told her I wasn't going to finger her but just look at her treasure. But she kept repeating nooooooooo-finger mantra. To keep things moving I asked me to give me BJ for which she kept squeezing my shaft and did nothing else. I told her to put it in her mouth for which I got no response. I realized I picked a scammer. Yes, I could work with (convince, beg etc.) one way or other to get to finish. That's not my style. I got up dressed and left the room.
I went and tried to explain what happened to the counter where I paid room fee. All of a sudden 3 individual at the counter totally lost the capability to at least understand. They had no problem understanding me when paid the room fee and ordered drink while waiting for room.
Then I go down to the countered where I checked-in to enter club. Same routine. I asked the person to get someone who speaks English. They present one older guy. I explained what happened what happened but the person kept saying nothing can be done without know who the girl is and her side of the story. Right that moment the girl just walk in. I showed her to the guy who spoke English. She says few Portuguese words and walks into club. The English speaking guy told me what she said settled the issue and nothing can be done. I asked him what she said to which I got no answer. My guess was she reminded him of his cut. I got stubborn and decided to see what other BS the club management would throw at me. I just wanted see if the problem is systemic or not. If it is systemic then I know I should never visit Casarao again. For me it was a lose of about $65, not a bit deal.
.First of all, at Casarao, you pay for both the room and the girl at the desk, before you go to the room.
They ask the girl what the negotiated amount is, they add the appropriate room fee of 40 reais for the 40 min session, and you pay then and there, the total amount.
If she asked for more cash upon entering the room, she was definitely pulling something.
I've been going to Casarao for over 15 years without ever a problem.
Sounds as though perhaps you picked a girl who saw that you were obviously a foreigner, new at the game, and a bit drunk, and she took advantage of that.
As far as the management at Casarao goes, they are generally very good.
I've become friends with a few of the managers over the years, and they seem to run a pretty good place.
I'm sure it would be difficult for them to judge your complaint due to language barrier, intoxication, he said / she said, etc variables.
Hard to say exactly why they didn't act upon your complaint without being there and hearing it all.
I've always found them (management) to be very reasonable.
I don't doubt your story.
I know Casarao has some girls that are sharks, however, I have met some sweethearts there as well. The vast majority actually.
An experienced, portugues speaking guy can easily spot and avoid the sharks.
Sorry you had a bad time there.
Good luck with the rest of your visit.
CharmingIL
09-06-19, 22:31
CharmingIL,
Thanks for getting back to me. Yeah, the PhotoAcompanhantes website seems more like a free-for-all which. To me. Indicates there is more potential for something sketchy which is something I'the like to avoid.
My plan for messaging anyone would be getting straight to the point, I don't want to waste anyone's time or seem that I am not serious.
I'm curious though, if I can't find any selfies or a Twitter account of the girls I like on SPLove etc. Is asking for a selfie / video or two considered OK? I'm not out to collect photos of these girls but I do want to make sure the pro photos that have been photoshopped don't differ extremely from reality.
Also, is there generally any disadvantage in going to one's flat instead of to my hotel?
Thanks.I think mostly girls don't feel comfortable if you ask them for selfie pics at Whatsapp. In SPLove and ClubModel they don't share the girl Twitter, but if you check Private55, you choose an girl ad and you scroll all the way down, if the girl have an Twitter account, you will be able to see some of her posts in her ad page at Private55.
And about the girl going to your hotel room or you going to her place. Well, depends. Sometimes for your comodity is better the girl to go to your hotel room, than you to go to her place. Some girls can charge an uber tax to go to your hotel, but once again. Depends on the girl.
SnarkHunter
09-06-19, 23:13
I'm returned from my trip. Thanks to those of you who offered advice. I made it to Aboborá and Tangará, and offer my thoughts about both.
Aboborá.
I arrived at Aboborá in the early afternoon, perhaps 1:00. There are two entrances; you go to the one on the left to see the line-up. I don't speak Portuguese, but the Mme. Had basic conversational ability, and I was able to make myself understood. The facility is new and updated and clean. Well organized. Upon my arrival, she did something on her computer, and the parade began. There were eight girls who presented themselves to me, I'd say all in the 7-8 range by my standards. All had dark hair and looked fairly similar. There were four that I found attractive, and selected Lorena, who was thin, with long black hair, and pretty eyes. I then went to the other side, and waited a couple minutes for her to reappear there with some sheets and towels, and she led me to a small room. It was clean, with a leather bed, and an attached bathroom. She didn't speak any English, but I exchanged some pleasantries via Google Translate, and she was game. She seemed happy and relaxed. She motioned me to shower. When I was done, she did the same. I was running late, as I underestimated the time to get there from my hotel, and so spent 45 minutes (paid $220 for the full hour, but cut it short due to my schedule). She was lovely and accommodating. Fantastic UBJ and delightful cowgirl finish. It was an excellent experience all around.
Tangorá.
I arrived at 10:15 AM. They were just setting up, though they advertise that they are open at 10. The manager was friendly and said that the girls would arrive in five or ten minutes. The ambiance is a lot more worn and tired. It needs to be painted, and the plaster is crumbling off the walls. In the bathroom, the fixtures are worn and slightly broken. There are some beautiful old doors and some of the architecture was interesting, but it is old and a bit tired.
I sat on a cheap upholstered sofa and waited. Ten minutes, half an hour, forty five minutes. Occasionally, a girl would cross the room quickly, as if she just arrived and had to rush somewhere to get ready. The manager kept saying that more girls would arrive. It would have been better had I arrived after noon; that's when there would be twenty or thirty of them. Now, it was just one. Three other men joined me in the waiting area. Two of them somehow got served before me. The protocol was new to me. Apparently, the fleeting room crossings were the girls' way of letting everyone know that they were available. It took me a while to figure this out. Most didn't stop to say Hello,; they simply rushed across the room. Finally, I told the manager that I needed to either get started or leave. He told me that there were two girls available. More would arrive in ten minutes. Right. But I said that I would take them both, whoever they were, for half an hour. Pietra and Yasmine. Pietra had a thin body but a protruding lower jaw. Yasmine was a little heavy. I'd rate them about a 7 and a 5, respectively. But better than leaving empty handed.
Neither spoke English. Both were young and inexperienced. I wouldn't be surprised if they hadn't done a dupla before. They were nervous and giggly. Pietra didn't permit kissing on the lips. Neither knew what to do, and so I took the lead. For a while, they were chatting together and giggling, which I found annoying. Finally, my magnificent skills at cunnilingus helped them to focus, and the groove improved, but it was something of a teaching and management experience for me, and there were moments when they each had deer in the headlights expressions, as I explained to them what I wanted them to do to each other. They started rather aloof, but eventually warmed. I paid 220 reals for half an hour, which wasn't enough time, but I had a meeting to get to. It was actually a fine experience in the end, with a decent UBJ finish in Pietra's odd mouth, but definitely not as professional and polished an operation here as at Aboborá.
I'd say, if you are really stuck for cash, then Tangará is an acceptable place to fuck at bargain rates. If you can afford the additional cost, I would stick with Aboborá. It is a more expert and refined experience.
First of all, at Casarao, you pay for both the room and the girl at the desk, before you go to the room.
They ask the girl what the negotiated amount is, they add the appropriate room fee of 40 reais for the 40 min session, and you pay then and there, the total amount.That may have been your experience. My experience was just as I reported. Only amount I was to pay at the desk was 40BR for room.
If she asked for more cash upon entering the room, she was definitely pulling something.She asked for the amount we both agreed. Nothing more.
I've been going to Casarao for over 15 years without ever a problem.
I congratulate you for having a great experience with Casarao for such a longtime. Just report your experience (You probably did. I have't read all your posts) so readers would judge for themselves how to you the info.
I would't expect a local or Portuguese speaking to have nonchalant response from management. I wouldn't expect the club management to screw their bred and butter demographic. The experience of a local or Portuguese speaker at this club doesn't translate as is for me. Me being a foreigner without Portuguese language skills. So when I visit a club in a new country I try to gauge how fair the management would be knowing well I am tourist. Casarao failed miserably in that respect.
Sounds as though perhaps you picked a girl who saw that you were obviously a foreigner, new at the game, and a bit drunk, and she took advantage of that.I wonder how many (what percentage of girls) such sharks are there in Casarao? I said I was drunk. Who wasn't in the club? I wasn't drunk enough to be taken advantage of.
As far as the management at Casarao goes, they are generally very good.They were not good for me.
I've become friends with a few of the managers over the years, and they seem to run a pretty good place.
I'm sure it would be difficult for them to judge your complaint due to language barrier, intoxication, he said / she said, etc variables.
Hard to say exactly why they didn't act upon your complaint without being there and hearing it all.
I've always found them (management) to be very reasonable.
Maybe because I wasn't their friend!
I don't doubt your story.I wouldn't mind if you do. That's how this forum should work. People report (hopefully truthfully). Readers can decide how to use the info and judge for themselves who is telling the truth and who is bullshitting. Readers would be able to figure that out overtime if not overnight.
Good luck with the rest of your visit.Thanks. I did have a good luck during the rest of my trip. I am currently back home and writing my report (s).
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Thanks. I did have a good luck during the rest of my trip. I am currently back home and writing my report (s).Great!
Thanks for posting your experience.
Lalabo,
Thanks for your outstanding and accurate reporting so far. Too bad about the foul scene at Casarao. But can't for the life of me understand why you chose to skip having sex with one of the many, many hotties at Scandallo! Man! How could you resist? I find Bomboa to be competitive with Scandallo, but as you saw, optics-wise Casarao can't hold a candle to Scandallo on most nights. And throw in a scam here and there and. Oh well! There's always day 3 right? Ha!You are right! It would be very difficult to resist tons of gorgeous girls surrounding you waiting to chat-up and hookup. I was bit tired from travel. I couldn't sleep well in hotel room that afternoon because of traffic and construction noise. I designed this trip as a scouting trip to see get an idea of the lay of the land. I was not in a hurry. Maybe I should have.
I have visited Casarao, Bamboa and Scandallo. Scandallo was miles ahead in terms of girl count, most no of gorgeous girls, swankiness, service and experience in general.
In fact, no clubs in NA and Europe would come close to Scandallo in terms of sheer number of gorgeous girls. FKK Globe maybe known to have prettier girls than typical German FKKs. But there is no comparison in terms of number of hot girls per inch. Scandallo wins for numbers and optics. The question is does Scandallo win for service too. You know FKK Globe has a guaranteed minimum GFE service, there is no need to discuss or haggle with the girl. I had a great experience with a girl at Scandallo but the is not enough to call the service price to Scandallo, yet.
DreamCarnarvon
09-07-19, 01:53
I had two very positive experiences recently with GPS from Twittter. I basically follow O andralinho on twitter. I figure whoever he retweets is legit (tho all may not suit my taste).
Both were out calls to my hotel. Initial contact was made on WA. They knew from my number and language ability I wasn't Brazilian. It didn't seem to be a disadvantage. For One I was able to walk the girl up. The other I was asked to register her at the desk. The ladies were very kind. I was expecting more attitude but they were polite and courteous. They were ready for action too. DFK, DATY, CIM for both. Videos and pictures without face were OK. Both were great experiences. Both were 2 h sessions.
Once I get DM capability I can share more info with contributing senior members.How much did you pay for each of the outcall? Did you try to negotiate the price with the girls?
I'm trying to get an idea of how much it would cost to have twitter GPS to come over to my place instead of going to their place.
Thanks.
Polyamorist
09-07-19, 08:08
I went and tried to explain what happened to the counter where I paid room fee. All of a sudden 3 individual at the counter totally lost the capability to at least understand. They had no problem understanding me when paid the room fee and ordered drink while waiting for room.Salaam Lalabo. Thanks for your great reports, very interesting.
I am sorry the staff at Casarao were so half-assed. You were clearly ripped off. At the same time it shouldn't be all that surprising. It is very rare to find good management in any club in the world. Typically the reasoning will be, "We are making a ton of money from this girl's business and this is a one-time tourist, so why should we bother protecting him?" Short-term thinking but people like to be lazy.
Furthermore Casarao doesn't claim to be anything special. It isn't a fancy club with managers coming up to you and asking if everything is alright. I mean look at the way some of the girls dress, pretty hardcore. In a scene like that you are expected to fend for yourself. (In Scandallo you might be led to expect more, so it would be all the more surprising if you were ripped off... which is still perfectly possible however!)
I go to Casarao sometimes, but I speak Portuguese. I wouldn't really recommend it to casual visitors, as some girls have been allowed to slide into the ugly habit of sharking tourists.
Bad experiences happens to locals also. In the local forum, of the last 20 reports, 13 were positive, 5 neutrals and 2 negatives. Some of the locals had also paid prices that, if reported here, they would be accused of overpaying.
AltoBomGosto
09-07-19, 11:53
Bad experiences happens to locals also. In the local forum, of the last 20 reports, 13 were positive, 5 neutrals and 2 negatives. Some of the locals had also paid prices that, if reported here, they would be accused of overpaying.That's why I prefer the CLínicas.
That's why I prefer the CLnicas.You kind of promote the clinicas.
MixedSalad07
09-07-19, 20:35
How much did you pay for each of the outcall? Did you try to negotiate the price with the girls?
I'm trying to get an idea of how much it would cost to have twitter GPS to come over to my place instead of going to their place.
Thanks.2 h for both. One was 600 + Uber, the other was 700 flat. I used what I would pay in a top end boate as a base line. Price is what was quoted in their initial msgs. Didn't haggle. Use gpguia to screen. Prices matched the reports there. Both had exemplary reviews. Surpassed my expectations.
I was satisfied and would repeat with each one.
That's why I prefer the CLnicas.I kind of agree with you based on my recent experience. Yes, in clinics, optics are much lower than than some of the Boates but with patience you can find decent looking ones. Clinics seem to provide certainty of services delivered where as you are at the mercy of girls at Boates.
You kind of promote the clinicas.He may be. But clinics are perfect for tourists like me who doesn't want to kiss, and wants to do every thing else covered. They may work for others too.
Anyone know how Scandallo shows on your credit card bill? Is it discrete?
Note: Looks like it wasn't clear if I am reporting while in Brazil or not. No I am not in Brazil. I am back home.
Day-2 (Friday 8/30):
Clinic Prime:
Visited in the evening. 8-10 girls. Most of the lineup was same as yesterday except for few new ones. This time I didn't hesitate to make a note of girl names in my phone. I found the girl I missed yesterday and booked her for half hour. Her name is Larissa a 24 yo good looking girl. Room was very basic with nicer bath room and shower than Tangara. I played it safe: no kissing, CBJ and the usual CFS. Paid 170 BR.
Boate Bamboa:
Got to the club around 11 pm. Entrance fee is 250 BR. I don't remember how much of it was consumable. Front desk arranged an English speaking individual Micheal to look after me in the club. Maybe that is this club's norm to have someone take you inside the club and periodically check on you. Micheal took me to main bar and seated me next to a 35 yo tall woman from Rio. I chatted with her for sometime before I started making rounds to checkout rest of the club. One would see entire club sitting at the bar. They had live band playing but not too loud. They have tons of couches to relax and maybe chat-up with girls. There is a sushi restaurant in the premises if you are hungry.
There were at least 30+ girls. Few were pretty but the optics were nothing like Scandallo. One girl caught my eye so I went and talked to her. She is a Spaniard who spoke no English. I didn't feel like using app for entire conversation so I decided not to take her. After spending couple of hours I left the club with out doing any fun activities. I may visit this club in future trips.
For me it wasn't a bad day. Yes I only did one session. But I did walk around quite a bit in Moemo area to get a feel for the town. I walked to a restaurant in the evening had very good food.
Next morning I am off to Foz do Iguazu.
Continued in part-4 of the report.
Day-3 (Saturday 8/31):
Landed in Foz do Iguazu airport. Iguazu natational park was very close to airport. I Ubered to Iguazu national park Brazilian side after storing my luggage in one of the lockers outside the arrivals building.
Park visit was a amazing. Speed boat ride + jungle safari was a blast! I got back to airport by 6 pm and Ubered to Bourbon business hotel in Foz do Iguazu town. Very nice hotel with great breakfast.
If it wasn't for Questner's report in Foz de Iguacu / Iguazu Falls thread detailing the various options available for fun activities I would not have ventured out to find such places. Thanks you Questner for very detailed and helpful report.
Boate Scorpion:
I got there at about 10:30 pm. I paid 80 BR entrance. I head them say all of it is consumable but I was wrong. Only 30 BR was consumable (at least that is how it ended up). I had certain exceptions for a Boate. This one is bit underwhelming. Main club is basically a house with 2 rooms converted into a club. Bar is located in 1st room. 2nd room is lounge area with seats / couches and a small stripper pole at one end. It looks very similar to some small size strip clubs in USA. In front of the building there is open area with few tables and a small pool at a distance.
They had 8-10 girls. 2 girls I would have considered for takeout: 1 pale skinned chubby blonde and the other was a cute brunette were already busy talking to other men. A more chubbier girl named Rebecca who spoke excellent English came and sat with me. I asked Rebecca about a blonde wearing a Santa hat sitting outside with few guys. Rebecca said that she is her friend and she could get her for me if I am interested in paying 350 BR / hour. Based on Questner's report I expected the price in the range of 250 BR. No big deal, I guess Rebecca decided to add extra tourist tax on me. Anyway I told her it would be rude on my part if I pull her from that group of men. She assured me those men were talking to her because they arranged a strip show with her and I could take her if I want. Then Rebecca went and spoke to the blonde and both joined me in the lounge. Blonde's name is Mel. She is pretty and unfortunately spoke no English. Rebecca turned into translator for both of us. Mel is 26 yo and mother of a child. I wasn't sure if I want commit to her so quickly. Luckily she did the strip show. I liked what I saw.
After the strip show Mel join me. I asked her if she would like to drink, she said yes. So ordered 3 JW blacks. I asked about Mel's services to which Rebecca replied she does everything with cover. Including BJ as asked. Yes, she answered. Ok that's not a deal break. I told Rebecca that I would pay 500 BR for 2 hours. She countered it with 450 RB for 2 hours. Sweet! Johnnie walker did his trick. I quickly accepted. It so happens Mel loves anal and it is included. The deal just got sweetened at not extra cost.
Rebecca insisted that I do it in the Motel next door to which I said no. She insisted I pay before. Casarao flashed by! I told them I would pay half first and half at the end of 2 hours. They agreed. Mel and I Ubered to my hotel.
She registered at hotel. There is a 50 BR charge for guest at Bourbon business hotel.
She provided one of the best experiences I had for a while. She made me feel like she is my girlfriend and 2 hours went by like a flash. Communication problem never interrupted the action. Deep, long french kissing, fantastic BBBJ (I have to keep it a secret from Rebecca) with lots of DT action. I had a long dining session at her V and O. Anal action was great.
I took her contact before she left so we could do the same next day which is Sunday. All the Boates are closed on Sunday in Foz do Iguazu. So make sure to make your arrangements on Saturday for Sunday.
I went to bed thinking about Mel.
Continued in part-5.
Salaam Lalabo. Thanks for your great reports, very interesting.
I am sorry the staff at Casarao were so half-assed. You were clearly ripped off. At the same time it shouldn't be all that surprising. It is very rare to find good management in any club in the world. Typically the reasoning will be, "We are making a ton of money from this girl's business and this is a one-time tourist, so why should we bother protecting him?" Short-term thinking but people like to be lazy.
Furthermore Casarao doesn't claim to be anything special. It isn't a fancy club with managers coming up to you and asking if everything is alright. I mean look at the way some of the girls dress, pretty hardcore. In a scene like that you are expected to fend for yourself. (In Scandallo you might be led to expect more, so it would be all the more surprising if you were ripped off... which is still perfectly possible however!)
I go to Casarao sometimes, but I speak Portuguese. I wouldn't really recommend it to casual visitors, as some girls have been allowed to slide into the ugly habit of sharking tourists.
Hi Polyamorist. I agree with what you said. I have no illusions that these sort of things wouldn't happen. I am just screening places where it is worth spending my money.
Larger the sunk cost larger the expectation of return should be. In our case it is reliable service levels. As a tourist with considerable sunk cost in making these trips, I look for places providing reliable of service and fairer treatment to the extent possible. If a country / place doesn't offer me that then I will not be a repeat visitor.
Bad experiences happens to locals also. In the local forum, of the last 20 reports, 13 were positive, 5 neutrals and 2 negatives. Some of the locals had also paid prices that, if reported here, they would be accused of overpaying.Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I understand shit happens. But how management deals with it shows how professional they are. Then one could decide whether to give them a repeat business or not.
The point of sharing negative info here is to alert the reader to be on the lookout for such incidents. It becomes a trend when you see multiple negative reports about a place. Then it is easy to avoid such place. I encourage members to truthfully report positive or negative experiences. Learning about negative experiences are as useful, if not more, as positive ones.
At Lalabo, thanks man for a report. At Bourbon when booking double occupancy there should not be extra charge. Yeah, Rebecca is a good girl. As for charges, girls negotiate and will get as much as they can based on a visitor, and day of the week matters.
Member #4732
09-08-19, 01:22
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I understand shit happens. But how management deals with it shows how professional they are. Then one could decide whether to give them a repeat business or not.
The point of sharing negative info here is to alert the reader to be on the lookout for such incidents. It becomes a trend when you see multiple negative reports about a place. Then it is easy to avoid such place. I encourage members to truthfully report positive or negative experiences. Learning about negative experiences are as useful, if not more, as positive ones.I understand your frustration, none of us like to have a bad session, but actually the boate management cannot intervene into any dispute between the service provider and the customer, except perhaps in a case of violence or material theft. The service providers at Casarao and most of the boates are technically free lancers who have no formal relationship with the boate. They are not employees. Casarao does not receive any % of the "program", it makes its money exclusively from admission, bar tabs and room fees. This is partly for legal reasons since prostitution is legal but pandering is not. Yes, they collect the money at the cashier but they are effectively holding it for the provider. So management is never going to intercede in a dispute about "quality of service" at a boate. Its a totally he said she said situation, and its a buyer beware industry.
Another thing, some GPS love gringos but some do not really like the communication gap. So it is good to try to get a sense which type you are dealing with before going to a room.
In this hobby, bad sessions are inevitable. . Be it in a boate or a clinica or with an escort. I find its best to just chalk up the lost $, walk away and move onto the next hottie. Statistically speaking Brasileiras are probably the best providers in the world, so you just have to move on. I understand the frustration but reading your report it sounds to me like this was a case where the FIV was a showstopper issue and perhaps this provider has some previous trauma associated with that. Miscommunication happens. And once a session starts to go south its hard to reverse course. If I sense the chemistry is crappy in the room, I usually just leave even though I have paid.
As for clinicas being more receptive to complaints, I would say yes to a degree. Management will certainly listen to the complaint and factor that into whether they want the provider to remain on staff, but they are unlikely to refund your money unless there is a strong strong case. One time at Enjoy, I arrived late and I chose a girl that was about to leave for the day. I heard her say as much but I thought she would be interested in the extra $. But in the room she was somewhat cold. As I took a shower I thought about it and decided "nah, this is no good". So I dressed immediately, told her "sorry, but I can see you are not into this, I know you were ready to go home. I do not want to continue."I went to the desk and explained it to them and they refunded me. Now we had not begun any interaction and only 5 minutes had passed. The kicker is that this chick is an AznSafado "regular", I guess he spoiled her with his good looks and charm.
Anyway, glad the other parts of your trip were good.
Anyone know how Scandallo shows on your credit card bill? Is it discrete?For me all the transactions were billed discretely.
I understand the frustration but reading your report it sounds to me like this was a case where the FIV was a showstopper issue and perhaps this provider has some previous trauma associated with that. Miscommunication happens. And once a session starts to go south its hard to reverse course. If I sense the chemistry is crappy in the room, I usually just leave even though I have paid.
I definitely didn't report any such thing happening. How did you arrive at this conclusion that I tried to finger her? Were you a fly the wall in the room?
May be she was so traumatized, as you stated, she treats a man touching or looking at any part of her body as fingering.
Any of my negative reports are not to garner any sympathy from anyone but to inform fellow mongers like me (gringos as you referred to) the way I expect others mongers to shared such incidents / girls / places.
We all move on alright. I think as part of monger community we should let inform each other so we enjoy good things and avoid bad ones.
Member #4732
09-09-19, 05:23
I definitely didn't report any such thing happening. How did you arrive at this conclusion that I tried to finger her? Were you a fly the wall in the room?
May be she was so traumatized, as you stated, she treats a man touching or looking at any part of her body as fingering.
Any of my negative reports are not to garner any sympathy from anyone but to inform fellow mongers like me (gringos as you referred to) the way I expect others mongers to shared such incidents / girls / places.
We all move on alright. I think as part of monger community we should let inform each other so we enjoy good things and avoid bad ones.Sorry, perhaps I was not sufficiently clear. I know you did not try to finger her. But you said that prior to going to the room she had said she did not allow it. Then in the room you said that she freaked out when she thought you were going to try it. I understand you did not try, but I believe you wrote that she thought you were going to. That is what I meant by a type of miscommunication that can cause a session to go from good to bad. I was not implying it was your fault. Just that miscommunications happen.
I had a session once at Bomboa, that was going extremely well, but at one point I was banging the garota from behind and I slapped her ass gently, just to test her reaction because some love it and some don't. It was a gentle slap, and yet this woman turned instantaneously from being into the session to being pissed. It ruined the session at that point and I ended it early because it was a bummer. There was not obvious explanation for her over reaction. But once the chemistry was broken it was not possible to repair. All I know is that the woman I was with was not a scam artist. Up to that point it had been an incredible session.
So all I was doing was suggesting that perhaps there was some innocent miscommunication involved in your case. You can choose to be pissed off at me. I was trying to be sympathetic while providing an alternative perspective.
Cheers.
Any one uses the translator where you speak into the device and there is an audio translation for the listener? Sounds much better than typing.
Any one uses the translator where you speak into the device and there is an audio translation for the listener? Sounds much better than typing.Very recently I have been experimenting with audio to text and have not been very happy. The translations have been a nonsensical mess. If anyone knows of an audio to text app that works well, I for one would be interested in learning about it and how accurate it is.
I understand your frustration, none of us like to have a bad session, but actually the boate management cannot intervene into any dispute between the service provider and the customer, except perhaps in a case of violence or material theft. The service providers at Casarao and most of the boates are technically free lancers who have no formal relationship with the boate. They are not employees. Casarao does not receive any % of the "program", it makes its money exclusively from admission, bar tabs and room fees. This is partly for legal reasons since prostitution is legal but pandering is not. Yes, they collect the money at the cashier but they are effectively holding it for the provider. So management is never going to intercede in a dispute about "quality of service" at a boate. Its a totally he said she said situation, and its a buyer beware industry.I initially thought exactly what you said. For legal reasons, the girls are essentially free lancers. Then I thought more about termas and clinicas where the girls are kind of a part of the brand. So just let's say the legal situation with prostitution in Brazil is complicated.
You're likely not going to get your money back for bad service in a boate. As you said Rovnak, you can point this out to management and if the woman has a history of such bad service they will likely prevent her from working at the boate.
HarvestBoi
09-09-19, 21:59
My understanding is that the boites and the hotels nearby (or next door really) legally need to be separate businesses in Brazil. That's why at scandallo you have to climb up that staircase to reach the hotel lobby. So if you complain about the service to the hotel staff they will say, talk to the boites and visa versa if you complain to the boite. Bad sessions and scams are just a part of the deal in what we do. So will, some won't, so what, next is the best philosophy.
I initially thought exactly what you said. For legal reasons, the girls are essentially free lancers. Then I thought more about termas and clinicas where the girls are kind of a part of the brand. So just let's say the legal situation with prostitution in Brazil is complicated.
You're likely not going to get your money back for bad service in a boate. As you said Rovnak, you can point this out to management and if the woman has a history of such bad service they will likely prevent her from working at the boate..
Member #4732
09-10-19, 00:24
My understanding is that the boites and the hotels nearby (or next door really) legally need to be separate businesses in Brazil. That's why at scandallo you have to climb up that staircase to reach the hotel lobby. So if you complain about the service to the hotel staff they will say, talk to the boites and visa versa if you complain to the boite. Bad sessions and scams are just a part of the deal in what we do. So will, some won't, so what, next is the best philosophy..I don't think its necessarily mandatory that there are 2 separate legal entities but I KNOW it is a strategy that the bigger boates use to avoid problems. There was a period when both Scandalo and Bomboa and Bahamas were all closed by the city. At that time there were not separate legal entities. When they reopened they initiated this "strategy" of having separate legal entities for the bar and the "hotel". So it is a good strategy for them. Now, that said, I don't think its "mandatory", its "strategic". I am not sure that Casaro is following that strategy because its not obvious if the part upstairs is a separate entity, it may be it may not be.
The clinicas are a different situation, not really worth discussing here haha.
Separate story. Today, I went to Redway. After my amazing session, I saw a fellow monger waiting in reception. I said "I am sure I saw you somewhere before". The reception said "Probably in Tangara". I laughed and said that Tangara is the center of the monger universe and that everyone is connected by only a few degrees of separation from everyone else via Tangara. We laughed. Then I got into my Uber for the ride home and amazingly the Uber driver turned out to be huge monger, a member of gp-guia and sure enough a client of Tangara.
Eszpresszo
09-10-19, 02:58
In this hobby, bad sessions are inevitable. Be it in a boate or a clinica or with an escort. I find its best to just chalk up the lost $, walk away and move onto the next hottie. Statistically speaking Brasileiras are probably the best providers in the world, so you just have to move on. And once a session starts to go south its hard to reverse course. If I sense the chemistry is crappy in the room, I usually just leave even though I have paid.I couldn't agree more. I see it as a statistical reality and something to plan for, and work around. Based on my aggregate punting experiences in 7 different countries over the past four years, 1 out of 5 new girls I pick is going to be a bad provider. Out of those five there will be 1 or 2 that are mediocre, and probably 1 who is a stellar performer, even at the lowest of prices. I have come to accept that and now, if things get off to a bad start, I don't even bother to finish. A year ago in Bogota, with two different girls, I just cut it short, got up and got dressed due to bad service. The cost was negligible and at those times, it makes sense to go someplace else without making a fuss. No propina for you, chica. There are too putas in that town to settle for a lousy one.
I do agree with you about Brazileiras in regards to GPS. But, in hindsight I realized that 2 out 5 GPS I contacted on my trip, flaked out on our appointment. That's a common trait of their occupation, anywhere on the globe. Just one more obstacle to be prepared for and plan around. In cities like Sampa you have too many other choices for it to be of any consequence.
Whenever I visit Brazil, I always like to mix in something new with the tried and true. That's why I had to try out Chanes 57 Bar and Nightclub in Sampa. I had heard a lot about this place, especially shortly after it opened, but this was my first chance to stop by and have a look see for myself. I didn't expect much really. That had nothing to do with the place per se, but more with the fact that it was on a Monday night, which is typically a week night for line-ups, I don't care where in the world you are. But Monday was where I was willing to put Chanes 57 in the rotation, making sure that I would be saving the proven best for last.
There was no entrance fee or consumo fee. When you arrive, the girl in reception will give you a slip that has all of the prices for the various types of drinks on it. You write your name on the top of that slip, then you take it and go upstairs to where the bar is. As you order drinks and food throughout the night, the bartender will note on the slip what you consumed over the evening. When you leave, you present the slip to the receptionist downstairs, she totals up your bill, and then you pay.
I got there around 8 pm on a Monday night, and stayed for about 2 1/2 hours. I would say that there could not have been more than 15 girls on hand tops, with most of them falling in the 5 to 6 range per my standards. Needless to say, since I need at least a 7 out of 10 on my optics scale in order to be enticed to part with my money for a fuck, I did not session with anybody. I did spend a considerable amount of time talking to a girl named "Kris" though. She had kind of an "indio" look to her I thought, and was very nice and patient. We mostly communicated through Google translate on our smart phones. Bought her couple of drinks. She pushed for a third, but I said no. Had several Cuba Libres for myself. Ordered an appetizer which we both shared. And then we parted ways. She asked if I wanted to go to the room, but I said no.
When it was all said and done, as I said I chose not to session with anybody, but spent about 275 reals for the evening on food and drink, not including my taxi fares to and from the club. Based on this one experience, I would not return to Chanes 57. The overall condition of the bar area was OK, but I cannot comment on the rooms as I did not go with anybody. And even though it was a Monday, I am doubtful that the line-up would be that much better later on in the week. You just get a "sense" of a place you know, and my sense is that Chanes 57 is not where you go to run up on a bunch of hotties. More like mostly 5's and 6's. There was one mulatta there who was a solid 7 on my scale (maybe higher on somebody else's), but that was it in terms of attractive girls as far as I am concerned. Glad I checked it out though, and now I know for myself about Chanes 57. No need to wonder!
Slow start, but I'm just beginning my friends!
TC.
Steve 9696
09-10-19, 09:51
Very recently I have been experimenting with audio to text and have not been very happy. The translations have been a nonsensical mess. If anyone knows of an audio to text app that works well, I for one would be interested in learning about it and how accurate it is.I find google translate "conversation mode" to be quite good. Thifany and I used it if we had a complex discussion in London. I don't know how well it would work in a noisy club. I actually also use it to see if I am getting the accent or a word right. If I learn a phrase in Português I will say it in Portuguese to the app and see if the English is right. If so I know I am saying it nominally correctly.
I find google translate "conversation mode" to be quite good. Thifany and I used it if we had a complex discussion in London. I don't know how well it would work in a noisy club. I actually also use it to see if I am getting the accent or a word right. If I learn a phrase in Portugus I will say it in Portuguese to the app and see if the English is right. If so I know I am saying it nominally correctly.Yeah Google Translate works pretty well in a face-to-face conversation if it isn't too noisy. Wish I could find a way to change it to a man's voice but have not been able to figure that out yet. But what I was referring to is when I receive a voice message in WhatsApp and I need to translate it. Gboard works great for translating text messages, but I have not found anything good for the WhatsApp audio messages yet.
Polyamorist
09-10-19, 15:57
In this hobby, bad sessions are inevitable. . Be it in a boate or a clinica or with an escort. I find its best to just chalk up the lost $, walk away and move onto the next hottie. The problem with this strategy is that it trains the girls to think they can just take your money and give no service.
On the other hand, if you raise hell like Mr Lalabo, the girl is less likely to be welcome in the club in the future.
Whenever I visit Brazil, I always like to mix in something new with the tried and true. That's why I had to try out Chanes 57 Bar and Nightclub in Sampa. Based on this one experience, I would not return to Chanes 57. Thanks for trying it out and letting us know.
Member #4732
09-10-19, 18:28
The problem with this strategy is that it trains the girls to think they can just take your money and give no service.
On the other hand, if you raise hell like Mr Lalabo, the girl is less likely to be welcome in the club in the future.That may work in a clinica, but it is very unlikely to have any effect in a boate, particularly a large boate. The boate employees just don't care about what happens between customers and ladies. Perhaps they would listen to a regular customer but they sure as hell are not going to side with a tourist.
Honestly, there are not a lot of true "scammers" out there. Its a lot easier for a cynical provider to just go through the motions and give you bad sex than create a scene and argue with the customer.
Day-4 (Sunday 9/1):
Visited Argentinian side of Iguazu falls and had blast. I must visit for any nature lover.
Returned to Foz do Iguazu that evening. After dinner I contacted Mel. I had another great 2 hour fun time with her and her ass.
Day-5 (Monday 9/2):
Returned SP that afternoon and checked into Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera.
Clinic Abbobora:
I walked to Abbobora in the evening. They had 15 girls in the lineup. I picked Emily (as for as I remember). She was very good. I did anal for 100 BR extra. Her massage during the remaining time after session was good. She had strong hands. 260 BR + 100 BR for 1 hour.
I felt little bit under weather maybe because of the getting drenched under Iguazu waterfalls last 2 days. I took it easy and rested that night.
Day-6 (Tuesday 9/3):
This was the last day of my trip.
Clinic Prime:
I walked to Abbobora that afternoon. They had about 10 girls in lineup. I didn't like anyone so I walked to Prime. They had 8 girls in lineup. I picked a good looking 24 yo 170 cm tall Karen. I did a 1 hour session with anal. 230 BR + 100 BR for 1 HR.
Scandallo:
I went to the club at around 6:30 pm. I had only few ours before I had to get to airport. This time the entrance is 150 BR and all consumable.
There were only few men and 60+ girls present. Large sections of the club was close and with floor to ceiling curtains including main lounge. The area around the restaurant and the area at the back were open. There is an advantage in coming early to this club. You don't have to compete with tons of men for girls. There are enough hotties present so you can pick the one you like at your leisure.
I spoke to 5-6 girls. 2 of them quoted 1 K. I saw 2 super hot blondes walk in. I immediately put them on my list hoping to take one of them. Both of them reminded me of hot German girls I have seen in shopping centers in Germany. Then I saw this very tall, young, pretty girl with Asian features. She happened to be a 20 yo, 178 cm tall, Japanese mix. I never had Jap or Jap mix so she immediately took the top spot in my list. How often can you meet such tall pretty Jap girl. She didn't speak English but we managed to communicate using app. She passed my interview with flying colors. She quoted 900. We agreed for 800. She does anal for 600. I already had one for the day so I passed.
Went upstairs. Paid 200 BR for room. Room was decent size and facilities were nice and clean. She was simply amazing. Spectacular body. Hard natural be cups, nice firm ass and super tight pussy. She kept the action natural by ever waiting for my instructions. She lead the action when necessary. Lots of kissing and licking. Her BBBJ skills were great. Lots of deep throating. Fucked her in various positions before finishing in her mouth. If this session is any representation of Scandallo girl's service then I will be visiting SP just for this boate (and clinics). 800 BR + 200 BR for 1 HR.
My thoughts on Clinics:
I did 3 session. All of them were good. There seems to be reliable minimum service standard maintained in clinics. That is a a good think for someone like me who travel long way spending quote a bit of money. For that reason I will be visiting clinics during my next visit.
My thoughts on Boetes:
I have visited 4 of them. 3 in SP and 1 in Foz do Iguazu. I will avoid Casarao and visit other 3 during my future trip (s).
Scandallo is by far my favorite.
In FKK clubs (German, Swiss and Austrian) the girls are naked or wearing lingerie, where as girls in boates are fully clothed. Clothing helps girls cover-up some of the imperfections and helps them present themselves better than if they are naked. I am keep that in mind when you compare Scandallo with clubs like FKK Globe in Zurich. Still I think Scandallo beats Globe in terms of lineup strength, quality and optics.
Like many mongers I do care about service in addition to optics. That's where FKK Globe beats Scandallo. There is a GFE service guarantee (provided you are clean enough) at Globe whereas Scandallo doesn't. I had sampled only 1 girl so I don't know how reliable are Scandallo girls in providing better than average service. Average service is not enough when they girls are commanding high price. For now FKK Globe wins service category. I may change my opinion once I sample enough girls at Scandallo in my future trip (s).
Well if last night was about something new, then Caf Photo was about something well-known. Arrived a bit early around 9 pm Entrance fee was 150 reals. Or, if you agree to pay 100 reals upfront as a consumption fee, then the entrance price is lowered to 120 reals. I planned to eat, drink, and be merry, so I took the latter deal.
Immediately when you step into this club, you not only see but also feel the difference between one of the more upscale boites versus a club like Chanes 57. That's not meant to be a general swipe at the lower end places. Every establishment has its place in the order of things, with both pros and cons. A pro with a place like Caf Photo is simply that the girls on average are far more attractive than at a lower end club. I mean there were 7's and 8's everywhere I looked! I can't say that I saw a lot of 9's and 10's, but the optics were damn sure better than at Chanes 57! No doubt!
But then of course, there is the downside, which would be the price of the pussy in a place like Caf Photo! The entrance and consumption fees don't bother me any, but it's the asking price of the girls for sex. When the exchange rate was 3 reals to the dollar, most of the girls were asking as high as 800 reals for an hour, but you could easily talk most down to 600. Now with an exchange rate of 4 reals to the dollar, I found that most of the girls were asking for 1,000 reals per hour, but also that you could easily talk most down to 800 (but not all as you will read later). With the current exchange rates, I'm OK with 800 for an hour in a place like a Caf Photo, but I would never pay that at a Chanes 57 or at any of the clinicas. Sampa offers a huge mongering market, and you have to be prepared to pay different prices depending on which market segment you're operating in. That's just the facts. Accept it, or just don't play at the poshest boites. Complaining about it will accomplish nothing.
At 9 pm When I arrived, there were only about 20 ladies available. As the night wore on and approached midnight though, I would say that by that time at least 60+ had shown up on a Tuesday night! And like I said, solid 7's and 8's abounded. Early in the evening, I chose to go with a girl from Belo Horizonte named Claudia, who I would rate a 7. She had what I call the "classic" Brasiliera look I was in the mood for. Straight black hair, attractive face, huge natural boobies, narrow hips, and a big bunda! But rather than being caramel-complected, which I like, she was white-skinned. So maybe not 100% classic look but close. Claudia spoke virtually no English but could understand some basic Spanish. Between that and Google Translate, we were just fine. Said she came early with a friend because she didn't like the late-night crowd. Was hoping to do one session and leave. We had a couple of drinks and an appetizer and got along well enough that I decided I wanted to session. Claudia asked for 1,000 for an hour, but quickly came down to 800. Also, she said that although she did not normally do BBBJ / CIM, she would with me because she thought I was a nice guy, and she liked me. Charm and being nice helps. But still didn't get me anal though! No problem (this time)!
We took the "company car" over to the club-affiliated hotel (don't recall if the name is still The Kinky Hotel or not), which is offered free round trip. The room cost was 200 reals per hour. They will also offer to sell you some condoms too if you need them. Had my own, so did not. After showering it was onto the bed for a decent session. Lots of DFKing and suckling at those big naturals hahaha! True to her word Claudia worked to suck me off, but I just didn't have the patience. Didn't get any the night before, and I wanted to fuck! We went into some 69, and Claudia's cootchie was so clean, tasty, and sweet! In mish, in between lots more DFKing, I told Claudia that Brazilian girls were the absolute numero uno in the world and superior to the gringa. Claudia seemed to get really excited and turned on by my words and was moaning (I have found that girls throughout Latin America really get turned on when I say this to them). Not long after telling her how much better the Brasiliera is, I came inside of Claudia (condom on). Afterwards some nice pillow talk and listening to music followed. We exchanged contact info, got dressed and stuff, and left the room. I took the car back to the club, and Claudia was done for the night. Had made her money, and that was it for her.
Now, even though I returned to the club (no requirement to pay another entrance fee by the way), I really had not planned to go with another girl. I didn't even have the cash on me to pay for another session at Caf Photo prices. So, decided I wanted at least one more drink and to scope the place out for future possibilities. Well, anytime a horny monger is on the prowl, you just have to realize that you just might see that "someone" who you cannot resist! And I did too! Her name was Julia, and she was a solid 8 on my scale. Kind of petite with long blonde hair (fake but she pulled it off well), really pretty smile, white-skinned, big silicone tits but right for her frame, large false eyelashes, red nail polish, and a plump, round bubble butt! Now that's what you calls a "tute" LOLOLOL! Yes sir! The only thing she was missing was the puffy lips! It took me a minute to talk to her because had to decide if I wanted to spend the money, but decided to go for it and good thing too because she said she only works two nights a week! Probably never would have seen her again.
Went ahead and pulled the trigger and we got along famously right from the start. Julia spoke no English, but her Spanish was so good that we only needed Google Translate just a handful of times. She told me that she was not too long back from Dubai where she had been working and making a lot of money. Those Arab guys (especially the Saudis) pay well and like the "loiras" like her she said. I asked her why she came back to Brazil, and she said that it was hard working in Dubai. Good money was to be made, and there were other Brazilian girls over there working (did not meet any when I went), but that it was just hard to live there and to communicate. Nobody speaks Portuguese. She decided to come on back to Brazil. And a looker like her is definitely going to make big money anywhere she goes no question! Probably why she only needs to work two days a week. Well, she said she has a job doing some kind of work at a TV station too. Wonder if she will ever get in front of the camera? Then I can say hey I fucked that LOL!
Anyway, we started working the deal, and when Julia agreed to anal sex, I knew then I was going to have to have her! I had a relatively hard time getting anal my last time in Sampa, and so no way could I pass up packing this pretty little blondie's fudge! The issue was the price. She started at 1,000 reals like the other girls, but then wanted to tack on a 500 reals surcharge for the booty hole too! And I'm thinking that on top of that I have to pay for the room. Had not planned to spend this much tonight! But I got to have this girl's anus! Tried to work a better deal for myself, but Julia wasn't willing to budge much on the price. I ended up going with her and don't regret it, but considering that we went for an hour and half, fucking Julia was like paying for sugar baby pussy on the States or something! I tried to justify it in my mind. I had not spent much the night before, so I could splurge some now. The average guy like me doesn't get to cornhole hot blondes like this in the butt all the time I justified to myself. To hell with the justifications! Let's go! I'll be ashamed of what I paid total in the morning, but for now I need this girl's anal cavity! Hahaha!
So, we take the car over, but first I have to stop and get some cash from an ATM to cover the expenses. Julia puts my hand on her butt and likes me squeezing on her plump, round fanny as we ride in the car hehehe! We get to the hotel and I pay for the room. This time I buy some condoms since I have only one left. They gave me four for like 10 reals. Off to the room! And Julia immediately has her sumptuous tits out and in my mouth! Then her dress comes off and oh my God what a body! Her ass is even more banging than I thought! So Brazilian plump and round with tan lines just like on her tits too. Julia is in the shower and out, and before I can get in there she's already chowing down on my dick! Yeah, this is going to be a PSE session just like I wanted from this tute! Julia was aggressive on my dick, but in the right kind of way with her good technique. She too had agreed to let me cum in her mouth, but again I was too impatient. We got into lots of DFKing and me groping and sucking on them quality tits. Into 69 and I ate out her asshole! So good! She was making all kinds of sounds and noises. Like in a damn porno movie! I know some guys don't like that, but damn it when I'm having a PSE session, then I want porn starlet behaviors! OK? LOL!
Julia mounted me reverse cowgirl style so I could enjoy seeing her bouncing that gorgeous round bum of hers up and down against my body whack, whack, whack! Driving my dick up into her "buceta". I admired the view before we went into missionary so that I could pound the daylights out of her! Julia was getting loud and crying out in between DFKing, "Fockee me! Fockee me! Oh yes fockee me"! Loved it and led to the first nut! So, then we relaxed. Talked a bit. We both needed some water LOL! She ordered some and they brought it up. But all I could think about next was getting up into that butt hole of hers! Dick started to get hard again, and Julia helped me along with some skull. She said I really needed to be super hard to get inside of her A-hole. She said she was going to ride me in reverse cowgirl again, then sink her asshole down onto my dick. As we started getting closer to the deed, Julia leaned way over and spread her ass cheeks wide to show me her glorious "brownie". My dick was out of the buceta now. I rubbed the head around against her butt hole and was super excited and hard!
Julia then started. Trying to sink her anus down onto my dick, but she was just too tight! We were about to run out of time! But no way was I going to abandon ship now! I said let's get another half hour to finish the job. No problem for anybody else as long as she and the hotel were getting paid! I told you guys this was some expensive, sugar baby butt hole right here hahaha! But I had to have it! Had to! Since reverse cowgirl didn't do the trick, Julia laid on her tummy, and I tried to get all the way into her "chunnel" that way. I put some weight onto her ass cheeks and oh man! So plump and tender and round with just the perfect amount of firmness and give and "coloring"! Haha! But still not in! OK, time for The Cane's patented missionary anal technique. Julia is now on her back with legs spread to allow me access to her anus. I'm going in for the finish, and this time it's working! We're getting there, we're getting there! And all the while talking dirty to each other in between DFKing in a jumbled mix of Spanish and Portuguese LOL! I feel Julia's butt hole opening up and swallowing me until finally I'm in! Oh my God she says! Yes, I agree totally! Oh my God so divine! I tell Julia in Spanish how much I love to fuck pretty, blonde, white Brazilian girls in the ass! She immediately responds right back with no hesitation that her little white girl "culito" is for me to have! My Lord have mercy Jesus! I can't take too much more of this is what! Spermed inside of Julia's forbidden anal tract! Was it worth it? Every last rusty real my friends! We only live once! Spent too much this time for an unforgettable experience. Will just fuck less tomorrow hahaha!
We got dressed. Commented to Julia on how tight her asshole was. She said the problem was that my dick is big ha! Did some more kissing. Squeezing on that plump, round, branca fanny. Exchanged contact info. I caught a taxi home. Believe Julia was done for the night, but not sure. She made her money. And earned every last bit of it! I know that much. PSE all the way! Told her she fucked like a porn star and she as like no, no, no hehehe! No matter, because I was done for the night! Back in Brazil again! Halleluiah!
..................... Still I think Scandallo beats Globe in terms of lineup strength, quality and optics..................Thats a very bold statement. I have not been to Globe but the best optics I have seen in mongering is at Oase and Sharks and I am told that the optics at Globe are superior to that at those two clubs. I have never been to Scandallo and have not visited having read that the Scandallo girls go to the clinicas during the day. I have not seen optics at the clinicas to compete with that at Oase and Sharks.
That's a very bold statement. I have not been to Globe but the best optics I have seen in mongering is at Oase and Sharks and I am told that the optics at Globe are superior to that at those two clubs. I have never been to Scandallo and have not visited having read that the Scandallo girls go to the clinicas during the day. I have not seen optics at the clinicas to compete with that at Oase and Sharks.I have been to all of the clubs that you mention. Scandallos, Globe, Oase, and Sharks. My experience is that the optics at the Zurich clubs were no better than at the German FKKs, making Zurich not worth the time and money for me. In Europe the best value for your money is found in Germany IMHO, and there is no question but that many of the same girls have moved back and forth between Germany and Switzerland too. In fact, I think this is far more common than finding a 9 or 10 from one of the top-tier Brazilian Sao Paulo clubs working in a clinica staffed by mostly 5's and 6's. I suppose it happens, but I don't believe it's as common as the girls shuttling around between Germany, Switzerland and other European countries.
I mean, I say again. I am a logical and rational man. If I could consistently find the same 9's and 10's at a clinica that I could at a place like a Scandallos, then why wouldn't I go to the clinicas at cut rate prices instead? Because from what I can see with my own eyes and tastes, the girls at the clinicas are like at Chanes 57. Overwhelmingly 5's and 6's! Now when it comes to Zurich, many will say that what sets a place like Globe apart is the quality and consistency in the performance of the girls. OK, well I have received top-notch service from the girls in Germany to my satisfaction, so no need for me to drop the extra coin mongering in high-priced Switzerland. That said, I can honestly say that the sex provided me at Globe was outstanding, and I received the absolute best BBBJ / CIM in my entire life there at Globe in Switzerland. No exaggeration. But here's the kicker. The girl was Brazilian! So, for me that says more about Brazil than it does about Globe LOL! Brazil is number 1 baby!
With guys dropping R$1000 on a girl and a room at a top boate, it's worthwhile for newbies here to know that you can get a knock-out escort who is known for GFE and maybe PSE. She might even include anal for half that.
A lot of Sao Paulo visitors don't have the time or patience to research escorts on the local Portuguese language guide. There is also no comparison to the optics and "candy store" feeling you get at Scandallo. There's also the thrill of being with a girl who might only work sparingly. You caught the diamond at the right time.
I'm wondering if guys have had success negotiating lower priced afternoon rendezvous with the Scandallo girls. It sure beats paying the basic love hotel the ridiculous R$200.
Member #4732
09-11-19, 17:59
Thats a very bold statement. I have not been to Globe but the best optics I have seen in mongering is at Oase and Sharks and I am told that the optics at Globe are superior to that at those two clubs. I have never been to Scandallo and have not visited having read that the Scandallo girls go to the clinicas during the day. I have not seen optics at the clinicas to compete with that at Oase and Sharks.Not going to comment on the European clubs I have not been to. Scandalo is enormous. I believe there can be up to 200 girls on a Wed or Thursday night, so the sheer quantity is "dizzying" in a good way. That said, they are wearing evening dress which accentuates their best and hides their worst so often the unclothed version is not as "model" like as you might have thought.
There is no reason not to at least visit Scandalo at least once to see for yourself. Yes, some of us have said that SOME Scandalo girls will work at clinicas occasionally, or rotate to Casarao on weekends because Scandalo is really a T-W-T club. If you do go, you must go T, W, or Thursday to see the prime time. But no one has ever suggested that a lot of Scandalo girls are "simultaneously" working at clinicas during the day and Scandalo at night. So in any give time frame probably 90% of the girls at Scandalo are only to be found at Scandalo. The rotation we were talking about is more of a career rotation.
Anyway, its worth checking out particularly with the strong exchange rate to see for yourself. I don't go often because I prefer to find the up and comers, the unspoiled newbies at the clinicas that don't realize they are a cut above the rest. Then I establish home visits. But that strategy is not available to a short time visitor. The last time I went to Scandalo, I have to admit I was a bit disappointed that there were far more MILF types than I had seen previously. Its always a bit of pot luck, but I always say check out all the top places you have time and wallet to try.
My understanding is that the boites and the hotels nearby (or next door really) legally need to be separate businesses in Brazil. That's why at scandallo you have to climb up that staircase to reach the hotel lobby. So if you complain about the service to the hotel staff they will say, talk to the boites and visa versa if you complain to the boite. Bad sessions and scams are just a part of the deal in what we do. So will, some won't, so what, next is the best philosophy.To me, the separation seems like window dressing. This is especially true if the boate collects the girls' fees for them.
I'm sure the top boates have banned girls no matter how hot they were. What you explained above makes me think the boates like to hide behind this thin veil when it comes to customers.
I know people get pissed off by Help references, but the girl's at the old Help and now Mabs are true freelancers. There are still a few hooker bars/clubs around the world where you can meet genuine freelancers. It seems like they eventually get shut down and someone finds a way to make something off the top from the girls.
A lot of Sao Paulo visitors don't have the time or patience to research escorts on the local Portuguese language guide.Yeah, I have been trying to use PhotoAcompanhantes (and a few others) but so far no luck. For one thing, I would say that at least 80% of the WhatsApp numbers listed on PA are are no good (better luck on other sites with this)! They may have been at one point, but I'm finding that most no longer register in WhatsApp. Then the ones that do, you never hear back, and had no hope that you would since you could see that she hadn't been on in two months! Then the ones you do hear from, you can't close the deal. She's not working that day. She wants you to come to her flat when I want her to come to the hotel. Or, maybe they just flake. I'm not too upset about it though because when it comes to the online thing, you just never know exactly who will show up at your door anyway. I'm usually disappointed. I wll keep trying, but like you say as a visitor I don't feel like wasting too much time and don't have the patience. Hell, I didn't have the patience for two attractive girls to suck me off LOL! Next time!
Member #4732
09-11-19, 18:21
I'm wondering if guys have had success negotiating lower priced afternoon rendezvous with the Scandallo girls. It sure beats paying the basic love hotel the ridiculous R$200.It all depends on the woman and your negotiating skills. I have gotten plenty of phone numbers from Scandalo girls and they would agree to meet me outside the club for sure, so one can save A LOT just by not paying the entrada and the room fees. But I found very few that were willing to go much lower on their hourly rate. I had hoped that they would adjust their rate outside of the club to be on a par with the high end tinder / website freelancers, I. E. 300 (max 400) per hour. But I found that most of the ones I talked to had the attitude "well you met me in Scandalo, so you have to pay Scandalo price no matter where we meet". I personally don't like to haggle. I would usually tell them, I have a lot of other options so if you change your mind let me know.
That said, I did succeed in getting several that were getting (at that time) 600-800 at Scandalo to see me for 300. So it can be done, but not easy.
Rovnak,
I was kind of thinking about an afternoon / early evening discount. The girls know the boates are their late night feeding grounds. Some of them will take a sure thing and they can still try hustling at the boate later.
I also like an early romp. Then I can hit the boate and just enjoy. I'm a better negotiator when I've already had some action that day.
The Cane,
You know there's the Twitter girls too. If the girl has been actively promoting on Twitter the last few days, you can be fairly sure she's currently working.
Member #4732
09-11-19, 23:09
Rovnak,
I was kind of thinking about an afternoon / early evening discount. The girls know the boates are their late night feeding grounds. Some of them will take a sure thing and they can still try hustling at the boate later..Of course that is what I was referring to. I was never that suggesting the GP forego her night at Scandalo. What I am saying is that they don't see it as you and I do. The biggest downside to places like Scandalo is that they foster a group think amongst many, not all, of the GPS that they are "elite". I mean we have all seen it. There must be a ton of chicks that have zero customers during the night but they are not going to have a fire sale at 3 am.
Thats a very bold statement. I have not been to Globe but the best optics I have seen in mongering is at Oase and Sharks and I am told that the optics at Globe are superior to that at those two clubs. I have never been to Scandallo and have not visited having read that the Scandallo girls go to the clinicas during the day. I have not seen optics at the clinicas to compete with that at Oase and Sharks.Yup! That's my assessment based on what I experienced during my 2 visits. It is based on how may hotties I would have wanted to fuck during each of my visits. There were easily 50+ girls that I would have like to fuck among 200+ girls during my first visit. I have never seen such overwhelming number of hotties in any of the German, Swiss or Austrian FKKs including Oase, Sharks and Globe.
Yes, Oase and Sharks do have great lineups where as Oase tend to have optically better lineup. Oase and Sharks have become heavily shark infested now a days. Globe lineup is mostly spinner type girls and at least decent looking ones. You don't see chubby ones there. Globe limits the number of top of the line hotties in lineup on any given day. It is usually about 10% of the lineup, which is usually 5-6 hotties at most. Those hotties tend to be booked for hours on so they may never show up in the lounge. At some point you are tired of waiting and pick a lower tier girls. For me choosing Scandallo was a no brainer when comparing 5-6 hotties at Globe to 50+ in Scandallo on my first visit.
Scandallo is a luxury experience through and through. Of course you will pay accordingly for it.
With guys dropping R$1000 on a girl and a room at a top boate, it's worthwhile for newbies here to know that you can get a knock-out escort who is known for GFE and maybe PSE. She might even include anal for half that.
A lot of Sao Paulo visitors don't have the time or patience to research escorts on the local Portuguese language guide. There is also no comparison to the optics and "candy store" feeling you get at Scandallo. There's also the thrill of being with a girl who might only work sparingly. You caught the diamond at the right time.
I'm wondering if guys have had success negotiating lower priced afternoon rendezvous with the Scandallo girls. It sure beats paying the basic love hotel the ridiculous R$200.I personally I didn't feel like negotiating too much on my last day with only few hours to spare. If I tried I could have bought it down a 100 BR or 200 BR, which I didn't think was big of a deal to me. Also I wanted to see the service level of the girl when I don't negotiate to the bone. She was happy with 800 BR I paid her and I was very happy with the service she provided.
I will test the limits of negotiations during my future trips. I am not sure how successful that would be.
I want to Scandallo before 7pm and saw very few men. Most of the girls were sitting in groups chatting. So I kind of got the feeling that by going early one would be able to negotiate some hot girls down to lower price like 600 RB. Some may go for it considering they could earn additional money later that night. Who knows some girls may hold their ground.
Well if last night was about something new, then Caf Photo was about something well-known. Arrived a bit early around 9 pm Entrance fee was 150 reals. Or, if you agree to pay 100 reals upfront as a consumption fee, then the entrance price is lowered to 120 reals. I planned to eat, drink, and be merry, so I took the latter deal.
At 9 pm When I arrived, there were only about 20 ladies available. As the night wore on and approached midnight though, I would say that by that time at least 60+ had shown up on a Tuesday night! And like I said, solid 7's and 8's abounded. Early in the evening, I chose to go with a girl from Belo Horizonte named Claudia, who I would rate a 7. She had what I call the "classic" Brasiliera look I was in the mood for. Straight black hair, attractive face, huge natural boobies, narrow hips, and a big bunda! But rather than being caramel-complected, which I like, she was white-skinned. So maybe not 100% classic look but close. Claudia spoke virtually no English but could understand some basic Spanish. Between that and Google Translate, we were just fine. Said she came early with a friend because she didn't like the late-night crowd. Was hoping to do one session and leave. We had a couple of drinks and an appetizer and got along well enough that I decided I wanted to session. Claudia asked for 1,000 for an hour, but quickly came down to 800. Also, she said that although she did not normally do BBBJ / CIM, she would with me because she thought I was a nice guy, and she liked me. Charm and being nice helps. But still didn't get me anal though! No problem (this time)!
We got dressed. Commented to Julia on how tight her asshole was. She said the problem was that my dick is big ha! Did some more kissing. Squeezing on that plump, round, branca fanny. Exchanged contact info. I caught a taxi home. Believe Julia was done for the night, but not sure. She made her money. And earned every last bit of it! I know that much. PSE all the way! Told her she fucked like a porn star and she as like no, no, no hehehe! No matter, because I was done for the night! Back in Brazil again! Halleluiah!Great report TheCane. I am guessing we tourist types are being slapped with about 200 BR tourist tax by these girls at high-end boates. Unfortunately our visits are short and have to make the best of it. Sometimes when you see something good you have to put the bid in.
So on each of my former trips to Sao Paulo I was tempted to visit Scandallo but every time I thought of going it occurred to me that I would be paying more for a girl there than I would at home. Why pay so much for travel and accommodation to also pay more for the girl? Nevertheless I would make it a point to go there come my November trip to see what all the shouting is about.
So on each of my former trips to Sao Paulo I was tempted to visit Scandallo but every time I thought of going it occurred to me that I would be paying more for a girl there than I would at home. Why pay so much for travel and accommodation to also pay more for the girl? Nevertheless I would make it a point to go there come my November trip to see what all the shouting is about.Don't know what city you are from, but where I am from, the hourly rate for a top-tier girl would be much higher, her performance likely lower, and the whole transaction illegal. That makes traveling abroad worth it to me. Besides, I like getting out and seeing the world. I write about the mongering aspects here. But I enjoy doing other things abroad too. Really I do!
When you send a WhatsApp message to an independent service provider, don't get offended if she doesn't answer your message immediately. The best ones get couple of hundred messages every day and they have to filter the serious ones from the "Hi, how are you" messages and organize their agendas. We all appreciate the girls not answering the messages during the session. Be polite and objective. Ask how is her service or if she does this or that, whatever your kink is. I usually mention that I saw her review on gpguia to give her a signal that I know what her price level is.
Steve 9696
09-12-19, 14:19
Thats a very bold statement. I have not been to Globe but the best optics I have seen in mongering is at Oase and Sharks and I am told that the optics at Globe are superior to that at those two clubs. I have never been to Scandallo and have not visited having read that the Scandallo girls go to the clinicas during the day. I have not seen optics at the clinicas to compete with that at Oase and Sharks.I've been to all four including Sharks this week, Scandallo in July, and Globe in February so I feel well qualified to comment. I will leave out Oase since it's been a couple years but I do not like it as much as Sharks.
Globe has pretty women but too few. They may show 60 on the web as "being at the club" but on the floor only 10-12.
Sharks is in between with lots of a available women but a real mix of levels.
Scandallo has more doable pussy than any venue on the planet. 150 girls on a Thursday night I would say.
And I am four for four at Scandallo for excellent service. But was 3 for three at Globe and 2 for 2 at Sharks tho one would have ripped a newbie a new asshole on pricing. So I can't complain about service at any of those venues.
Ive said it before but its worth repeating if I could go one place in the world and Ive been nearly everywhere it would be Scandallo. But its not just optics or in room service. Its The in-club time also. I spent 2 hours dancing and flirting with Karina, 1 hour+ with Josy, and at least a half hour with Andressa. The whole package is great! (PS and Andressa was a full on 3x9.5 — face body and performance. OMFG.
Back in the day I had fun times in Madahos, Blacks, Hook, Catto's and Xyedra in Buenos Aires, top level girls that did not break the bank. In the States I pay no more than $350 per hour for an escort. A visit to Scandallo will amount to more money per hour than I've ever paid for a hoochie.
Back in the day I had fun times in Madahos, Blacks, Hook, Catto's and Xyedra in Buenos Aires, top level girls that did not break the bank. In the States I pay no more than $350 per hour for an escort. A visit to Scandallo will amount to more money per hour than I've ever paid for a hoochie.Well, when it comes to Sao Paulo, I think the key like Rovnak says is to see the boite girls outside of the clubs. That way, you're cutting out the entrance fees, the consumption fees, and hotel room charges. That's going to save you a lot of money right there. As a "tourist" monger, this just isn't the best strategy for me though.
I'm trying to see and do as much as I can in a few weeks. Then I'm gone. But with memories to last a lifetime ha! I can say that even as a tourist there are cheaper options in Sao Paulo. But I find that I just don't like the looks of the girls enough to pursue those options heavily during the limited amount of time I have to operate in. And, I find the online thing to be mostly a waste of my time.
I don't believe in spending money on something just because you have the cash to spend. That's stupid and wasteful. But, if you're finding value in what you're paying for, and you can truly afford it, then I say go for it! Each guy has to make his own decisions about this. Take in all the best factually-based advice and opinions, then decide for yourself. If and when you're in Brazil again, I think you should at least visit Scandallo once. Even if you don't session a single time, I think you will be impressed with the facilities, and more importantly with the looks of many of the ladies there. Check it out dude!
Oh, in my city the very best, finest tutes per my tastes want like $500 per hour (or more)! And they often will deliver a lot less, but still think they're doing something when in fact they aren't doing jack shit! Everything covered, often no anal, and virtually never CIM. And many of them can't hold a candle to a smoking hot Brailiera. To this I say fuck that! Have passport, will travel to see the world and hump prettier, sexier foreign girls who know how to "put out". Safadas are what I need LOL!
Don't know what city you are from, but where I am from, the hourly rate for a top-tier girl would be much higher, her performance likely lower, and the whole transaction illegal. That makes traveling abroad worth it to me. Besides, I like getting out and seeing the world. I write about the mongering aspects here. But I enjoy doing other things abroad too. Really I do!You're right. I presume you are in the USA.
However, the Scandallo pricing is competing with London, Spain, Canada as well as Brazilian escorts etc. Here you can get stunning escorts in all shapes and sizes. For performance, I would always recommend looking at the reviews of the attractive escorts.
Where Scandallo stands out is the "candy store" feeling with reasonable assurance that the hot girl walking across the club will be a fantastic performer. That's always been the Brazilian quality assurance. There's also the entertainment value which is what I think Steve is referencing.
Like Lalabo, one of my goals with this trip is to do a little scouting. The mongering scene is Sao Paulo is large, and I admit I have sampled only a small part of it. So, I'm making sure to mix in some places I have not been to before along with others that I already know I like. That's why last night I decided to try The Connection Nightclub. I did not know it, but this place is owned by the same folks who own and run Scandallo. At least that's what one of the girl's told me. Connection is way on the other side of town. I'the say that with traffic, it probably took about 30 minutes to get there. I took a taxi, and the cost was around 70 reals, which is still awfully cheap compared to what a similar ride would have cost in the States. I tried using Uber, but it didn't work. Think I will try one more time.
Now when you get there, you're going to find that this club is much more hardcore Brazilian. If you're not used to being out of your element and get rattled by the unfamiliar, then maybe Connection ought not be your first mongering stop in Sao Paulo. Nobody was speaking a word of English. They will even tell you that they don't understand Spanish, but what I have found is that if you do go ahead and start speaking in Spanish, many people will in fact understand a lot of what you are saying. So, if you have the Spanish like I do, then use that. It does help. Upon arrival, you will see a glass booth on your right with some ladies in it. You need to go their and show them some ID. They will then associate your name with an account, and give you a card that you will provide to the bartenders and waiters whenever you order food and drink. This is how they track what you consume. Then when you leave, you pay. There was no entrada or consumption fee I needed to pay before going in. You pay when you leave. Same system as at Chanes 57, only electronic versus on paper.
Upon entering the club, I found it to be long and narrow (but not too narrow), with a stage for a band immediately to my left, and a long bar across the way on the other side. This was also the main club area with seating for patrons and the girls. The next room back was the restaurant, which seemed to have more people in it that the main club area when I got there around 9:30 pm I didn't realize it at first, but the club was bigger than I thought. One of the bubble butt tutes in there was kind enough to show me ha! Off of the restaurant was a good sized, enclosed smoking area. There was a tiny little area where some people were gambling. And then another decent sized back bar.
OK, so what about the ladies? Well, I was reasonably impressed! It was hard to say how many were there at peak time around midnight because of the layout of the place. But I'm going to guess around 50 with several of them very doable. Lots of 7's and 8's like at Cafe Photo, but I kind of liked the vibe at Connection better. I think it was because the Connection girls dress and act more provocatively. I'm talking short, tight dresses and skirts hugging their asses and barely covering their cheeks! To entice the men, sometimes they would sit in their laps and grind. I saw one girl reaching for and stroking the dick. Lifting their dresses and skirts up to give a monger a peak. I know some guys don't like this and say it's not "classy", but I prefer a little "grime" every now and then. The Cane likes a little trash! The Cane likes a little trash! The Cane likes it "trashy" at times LOL! The thing is, the club itself looked nice. Not dirty or anything at all.
Often times in the Sao Paulo boites the girls will not approach, and expect you to let them know you like them if you want them to come over. But as the clock struck midnight, they starting getting more aggressive lest they run the risk of not making any money for the night. One girl who I would rate a 6. 5 to 7 actually approached me earlier. I had just ordered an appetizer, and I asked her to share it with me. An appetizer in Brazil sometimes can be the size of a full meal it seems to me! She was nice and all, but spoke no English. She didn't even seem to know how to use Google Translate on a smart phone. Anyway, we talked for awhile and ate. But I knew I would not go with her, and told her I did not want to waste her time. No hard feelings. Peck on the cheek, and she left.
The thing is, having overspent the night before, I decided that I was going to tamp it down at Connection and not go with anybody unless she just "moved" me. "Touched" me in just the right way. Got approached by a redhead (not natural) with a tattoo on my arm. She asked me what I was looking for that night. I replied, "Oh, I don't know. Anal sex"? Big laugh out of that LOL! Well, she had looked interesting from afar, but face and in the end her body just did not cut it. Then had another girl try the "you don't like me approach". I said it had nothing to do with her, but that sometimes a man is just not ready. Now, there were two morenas in there with huge, plump, round bubble butts! They were friends! I was sure that if the shorter of the two approached me, then I was not going to be able to resist her. Especially if she parked her big hind parts on my dick and started to grind! Well, she did approach me. In fact, she was the one who showed me around. But I ended up being disappointed because her face didn't quite do it for me. Not that she as ugly, but was just a little older than I thought at first, maybe into her 30's. Would not have hesitated to bone the 20's version of herself hehe.
In the end, I chose nobody. However, there were enough doable girls at this club that if were a regular in Sao Paulo, I would put it into the rotation. Oh, and I almost forgot to say something about prices. Like the guy explained outside before I came in, the girls do their own thing, and from what I gather, they charge lower than places like Scandallo, Bomboa, and Cafe Photo. I didn't get too specific with many of the girls, but one of them started out at 500 reals for an hour. That's half of what the tutes start out at in the other places mentioned. I'm sure you can work a little wiggle room into that too. Now, the one who told me 500 said that would include anal. But to be honest, I was a little skeptical. I mean, she said that anal was "hard", which led me to believe that we could get up there the room and she might try, but then not come through with the full deal saying it was "too hard" for her. Speaking of the rooms, the girl who showed me around said that the hotel was located above the club with on-premises rooms for use. No idea how good the rooms are as I did not session.
I spent three hours hanging out at The Connection Nightclub. While there, I had three drinks and an appetizer that I shared with a girl. When I left, my final bill was 260 reals. That was about $65 for the night, plus roundtrip taxi fare at about 70 reals each way. Like I said, if I had the opportunity, I would give The Connection Nightclub another try on another night. Lots of 7's and 8's at more potentially more favorable prices than at places like Scandallo, Bomboa, and Cafe Photo.
Where Scandallo stands out is the "candy store" feeling with reasonable assurance that the hot girl walking across the club will be a fantastic performer. That's always been the Brazilian quality assurance..There's always the chance of ending up with a dud at Scandallo's too! Trust me, it happens!
Polyamorist
09-13-19, 12:28
In the end, I chose nobody. However, there were enough doable girls at this club that if were a regular in Sao Paulo, I would put it into the rotation. Oh, and I almost forgot to say something about prices. Like the guy explained outside before I came in, the girls do their own thing, and from what I gather, they charge lower than places like Scandallo, Bomboa, and Cafe Photo. I didn't get too specific with many of the girls, but one of them started out at 500 reals for an hour. That's half of what the tutes start out at in the other places mentioned.
Salaam Mr Cane, I paid R$250 at Connection for one hour. Juliana, she was very enthusiastic, though no anal. Plus R$70 room charge.
You're right, about half of what you would pay at Scandallo. And just give your name, no ID.
Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm! Well, what can I say? North America. The rest of South America. Central America, the Caribbean, Europe, the Middle East, and east Asia. I've been to them all, and in no other place have I been to a cathouse as fine and as exquisite as Scandallo. Top notch, spacious facilities with a nice on-premises hotel and quality restaurant. And equally important, if not more, the finest and largest collection of ladies of the night available for your sexual pleasure.
I arrived at my number one puta palace in the world around 7:30 in the evening. The traffic had been heavy, so it took like 30 minutes. I guess that's not bad for Sao Paulo on a Thursday evening during rush hour traffic. Listening to other guys in here in the know, I decided to go on a Thursday since that's supposed to be prime time at Scandallo. That was a good decision too! Believe me! The entrada was 100 reals with a 150 reals consumo, so 250 reals total to get in. Up the elevator and into the club! I was surprised to see that the disco wasn't going already. I learned later that they started opening it later in the night, with the live show getting started at 11 pm.
I walked around to re-familiarize myself with the place, remembering past and pleasant times. Most people were hanging out back in the large open-air space. It's very nice back there, but it was also really hot. Things cooled down later into the evening though, making that area a nice place to go if one wanted a little break from the louder action going on inside. I would say that at the time of my early arrival there were already easily 50 girls available. Their numbers would grow to a staggering at least 200 by midnight! That's right. Not 150, but I'm estimating more like 200 my brothers! In all shapes and sizes too! I won't say in all colors because I saw only 2 negras and 2 Asian girls. Most of these Scandallo tutes were an even mix of brancas and morenas, which is exactly what I like! And I'm talking solid 8's and 9's everywhere, with a 10 sprinkled in here and there. Oh my goodness will you please look at the "donk" on that one! LOLOLOL!
I also like how you will find the girls at Scandallo dressed in all different kinds of ways. You might see somebody in a sexy evening gown. But then there are others dressed like a street tute standing on the corner, with their "fart-tight" dresses and skirts literally gripping their plump, round butts and barely preventing the exposure of their ass cheeks! I saw this one gorgeous, light-skinned morena dressed like that. Really pretty face, long dark hair, big round butt, and in this super tight dress she had to keep pulling down in the back to keep her cheeks from being seen as she walked. Man! Now the one thing I told myself when I walked up in there was whatever you do, don't you go for one of these tutes too soon! Not that I would have buyer's remorse, but I knew that the ranks of the tutes was going to swell later in the evening (and they did) and I just might see somebody I liked better. Hold out!
I made a mental note about the morena clara in the tight pink dress. Somebody who I would look for later, and if she was still available, then I was probably going to take her in order to go make a baby hehehe! The thing is, I knew I was taking a risk. The girl was so pretty, that I knew damn well that somebody else might snap her up. But I was determined not to act too soon. Well, that only lasted for about an hour of being at the club haha! You see, I saw one of my weaknesses. A "ruvia" or a redhead! Blondes, brunettes, morenas they're all a dime a dozen. But a good redhead is hard to find, and that's what I told her too! This girl, who said her name was Aline, was wearing some kind of jump suit thingy with her milk white jugs very exposed. Her face I found to be very attractive with a cute and dimpled smile. The hair was long and red and pretty and the eyes green. Is she Brazilian or Irish or what? Aline was Brazilian all the way, and described herself as being a 24-year-old "gaucha" from Rio do Sul. She said she liked meat ha! I guess that was to go along with that meaty, wiggly, jiggle bunda of hers! Like I say, in Brazil even the white girls got back!
Aline and I had a drink and some nice conversation. She did not speak English, but once again Google Translate (and some Spanish) came to the rescue. We started working on the deal, and from the start she was at 800 reals for the hour, to include kissing and CIM she said. I asked about anal (you know I did), and Aline said she did it, but would want 200 reals more to give up her "cuzinha". So, we're talking 1,000 reals plus another 200 for the room. That's $300 USA Dollars. Fuck it, let's go! Didn't do anybody last night, this branca is hot, and she's about to let me fuck her in the butt, which is what I love to do with these pretty, big booty, Brazilian white girls! The deal was done, and now we're kissing and hugging and getting intimate. And after a couple of bathroom stops, it's into the elevator and up to the hotel level. More kissing and groping and holding hands. I'm squeezing on Aline's big booty and digging some fingers into her deep, deep, deep ass crack! Yes!
We get up there and settle up with all of the money, and we're in a nice room with a shower, toilet area and so on. Aline's clothes come off and damn! Her body is fucking banging! The clothes she was wearing just did not do her justice! So far so good! We take a shower together. Kissing and groping and sucking on pink nipple tits. Aline is "washing" (more like stroking) my dick which is at full attention. Finish, dry off, and onto the bed! Aline is aggressive with her cock sucking skills, which I like, but a little too "toothy". In between sucking she slaps my dick around in her pretty face. We do some 69 and I eat out her clean and sweet tasting womanhood. I like 69 because it allows me to admire the "culito" I will be enjoying later, and sometimes I like to munch on that ass! Then it's like Aline is more eager to fuck than I am! She gets the condom onto my dick, puts a little lube onto her pink coothchie lips, then does something I just love. Before full penetration, she seems to enjoy teasing herself. Rubbing the head of my dick all around and massaging it into her pussy lips. Likes she's teasing the both of us. Then Aline finally decides to sink down cowgirl style. Hell, she said she was a "gaucha" right LOL! Next she does another thing I love as she lowers herself onto me! Rolls her eyeballs all the way back into her fucking head where I can see only the white of her eyes, throws her hair back, and moans. Fuck yes!
Now we're fucking hard and both getting off on what's going down. Aline reaches out for me to take her both of her hands. She wants to hold hands while we make love, and so do I! She's going higher and slamming down harder! Occasionally she leans over so that we can kiss. We switch into some doggy where I give it to her hard! Slamming against her ass cheeks something hard from behind! Then into missionary for more hard fucking in that position, and with more kissing. Oh, and then OMG yes! Aline is ready to give me the sweetest treat of them all. That would be her redheaded, snow bunny anus!
Girls who do anal prefer to take it from different kinds of positions. The Cane is versatile and knows how to adapt, so I will go with most whatever position the girl is most comfortable with. Aline wanted me to penetrate her arsehole while she laid on her left side. No problem! She put a little lube on her A-hole and onto the condom, then asked me to push gently to penetrate into her anal orifice. The Cane is an expert honey. I know what to do! Gentle at first until the head was past her sphincter and inside of Aline's tender, warm anal cavity. Then the rest in rhythmically exploring along the branca Hershey Highway. Then harder and harder and harder! Until the next thing you know, I'm literally slam fucking Aline up the butt! Her head is thrown back now in pleasure and eyes closed as she frigs away at her clit! To get more leverage, I grabbed her arm up around her shoulder and started to cornhole the holy terror cowboy shit out of that tute! I was like a broken wind up toy getting up in that pooty hole! And I knew Aline was liking it too when she reached back and grabbed at me to try to pull me deeper into her to keep butt fucking her hard and rough. I was already nuts to butt deep so couldn't go any deeper! I got "base" and told her how I was fucking her in the ass something fierce (like she didn't know that already), and how much I liked having anal sex with brancas! I enjoyed hearing the violent smack, smack, smacks of my groin against Alines's plum, round, alabaster butt cheeks, before I could take no more and "released" into her anal canal!
We were both spent now. Butt fucked out! Aline looked back at me with a smile. We both lay there breathing heavy with my dick still stuffed up in her butt hole! Slowly growing soft, until it slipped gently out of Aline's bum. She reached back and held onto the base of the condom to make sure it did not slip off and and allow any fluids into her body, and then expertly removed the condom from my dong. And so far, no bad "incidents" ass fucking these brancas either. No foul odors or visible poo on my dick, which is par for the course in Brazil. Makes me believe that most providers who cornhole must do something to prepare themselves to do the deed. We got washed up. More kissing and hugging. Aline asked me if I wanted to get something from the restaurant, and indeed I did. I had not had dinner yet, and was down for a little something. I had some sushi and Aline had parmigiana carne. After all, a gaucha has to have her meat! It was during this time that I learned that Aline was one of 4 girls in her family, and that she had come to Sao Paulo to work at Scandallo for just a couple of weeks to earn some money. Said she had a room at the hotel she shared with another girl at 250 reals a week each. I asked her what she was going to do when she went back to Rio do Sul. She said she had a boyfriend there. Now if I had known that when I was digging out her asshole, then I would have been even more turned on hahaha! I like to take other guy's girlfriends and wives in the ass LOL, and most of the time the guys know it's happening too! It's like they're cuckolds or something and can't stop other men from fucking their girls in the butt. Or, maybe some are even pimps. Who knows? All I know is that I plundered your girlfriend's booty hole dude, and it was good! I liked it, she she liked it too LOL!
We finished our meals, and Aline asked if I would be interested in her joining me at my hotel overnight. I suppose my room is probably better than what she has at Scandallo. Told her that I planned to stay at the club for a good while more, so that would not work, and that I understood that she still needed to work to make money, so no problem if she wanted to leave. With that, Aline said that she was actually done with working for the night, and was going to "go home". We had already exchanged contact information. A light kiss on the lips and a few final pleasantries, and she was gone. Sent her a message later thanking her for good time. Aline replied likewise, and said I was good company. I hung out in the disco for most of the rest of the night, with hot girls just standing and walking all over the place. Smiling and making eyes. Saw a gorgeous, really young, fresh looking redhead! She smiled throughout the night and said something to me at one point. But I had just had a redhead! Needed something different. That morena in the pink prostitute get up! Yep! There she is totally occupied with another guy! Knew I was going to lose her if I waited! But I had to have that branca's redhead anus first! Damn! No matter, I'll be back. And so will she. I know she will And the next time she's having my baby! Two tutes tried to hustle me. A blonde and brunette team. Asked for a "propina" just for having had a conversation. Get the fuck out of town! No! They took "no" well and left.
I think I finally decide to leave myself at what? Maybe around 1 something in the morning? I didn't go with anybody else, but there were so, so many choices! I was looking for another morena like the one I lost a chance with due to going for anal sex with the snow bunny redhead first. But I didn't see anybody else who "touched" me in the same way that the morena clara in the tight pink dress barely covering her bunda did. Upon leaving, I settled up my final bill. For all of my drinks, drinks and dinner with Aline, the remaining total was 725 reals. I paid. Took a taxi back to the hotel. Rested up and got some sleep to re-energize for the next day. I need a morena clara now to have my baby ha!
I initially reported that she does CIM, but she does not. She does BBBJs, but no CIM. At least with me she didn't. Her technique is too "toothy" for me anyway, and I could not have reached CIM climax with her. Aline's anal service was high-quality though! You can believe that coming directly from an "anal connoisseur". She's not likely to be around too much longer though. Make some money and split!
I walked around to re-familiarize myself with the place, remembering past and pleasant times. Most people were hanging out back in the large open-air space. It's very nice back there, but it was also really hot. Things cooled down later into the evening though, making that area a nice place to go if one wanted a little break from the louder action going on inside. I would say that at the time of my early arrival there were already easily 50 girls available. Their numbers would grow to a staggering at least 200 by midnight! That's right. Not 150, but I'm estimating more like 200 my brothers! In all shapes and sizes too! I won't say in all colors because I saw only 2 negras and 2 Asian girls. Most of these Scandallo tutes were an even mix of brancas and morenas, which is exactly what I like! And I'm talking solid 8's and 9's everywhere, with a 10 sprinkled in here and there. Oh my goodness will you please look at the "donk" on that one! LOLOLOL!The Cane, no mulattas that night? I've been with some stunning mulattas in Brazil.
May I ask were Aline's breasts natural or augmented? Not sure you mentioned it. One of the naturally, bustiest girls I have been with was a fair, freckled skinned brunette from Rio Grande do Sul. She had some Scottish blood. Go figure.
The Cane, no mulattas that night? I've been with some stunning mulattas in Brazil. May I ask were Aline's breasts natural or augmented? Not sure you mentioned it. One of the naturally, bustiest girls I have been with was a fair, freckled skinned brunette from Rio Grande do Sul. She had some Scottish blood. Go figure.Now that you mention it, yes there were some mulattas there. As a matter of fact, the first girl to approach me was a mulatta. There were probably more than I realized since my personal radar is set to hone in on the brancas and morenas LOL! Aline's bust was all natural. Maybe a see-cup? Not huge but not small either. Very nice with beautiful pink nipples hehehe! I did not ask of what stock she was. Being from the south of Brazil, I know that there are a lot of Italians down there. But who knows. Like many of us have noted before, Brazil is such a diverse country.
Steve 9696
09-14-19, 01:30
Thanks for the spectacular report out Cane. Not many people bother to bring the full detailed experience to life and you did with aplomb. Great stuff.
And glad to see the alignment on venue. There is no more spectacular place worldwide to spend an evening. Plus I am almost exclusively an Asians and Latinas guy and the sheer quantity of "my type" is staggering. Just the best!
And pro-tip refresher for newbies: Go up to the front right where the band plays. You can stand on the little platform step there and 80% of the girls will cycle by like a sushi carousel. It’s possible to overlook a back wall wallflower, so u might have to explore there as well. But u can see most girls without lifting a finger this way.
Is it only me that's allergic to illeism, the act of referring to oneself in the third person?
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