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Dasisextra
08-27-20, 02:51
Do you know how the Marriott Apts compare to the Hilton Doubletree Itaim? I have status with both, but the doubletree is cheaper. Like 330 reals a night in November.Can't comment on the Marriott but just booked a month at the Itaim DoubleTree 10 nights on points rest cash. Stayed before during the renovation work, rooms are fine, breakfast left a lot to be desired. No problem with guests.
Dasisextra
08-27-20, 02:52
I see many high-end escorts advertising payment by credit card ("aceita cartoes"). Do they have a credit card machine that prints out a receipt? This could be a game-changer for avoiding the hassle of getting cash. If it involves going online to make the payment I'd rather not.The ones who take cards have there own mini reader, connects to mobile phone.
Dasisextra
08-27-20, 02:57
Therefore I'll probably hit Sao Paulo in October, in one of the few countries in the World that will still have my European monger's arse..You will get lovely apartments on Airbnb for less then that, just booked at the Einstein hospital complexe Morumbi, €1550 for 2 months, November / December.
Do you know how the Marriott Apts compare to the Hilton Doubletree Itaim? I have status with both, but the doubletree is cheaper. Like 330 reals a night in November.I have not stayed at Hilton. Marriott Apt is like 5 minutes from Cafe Photo and a few blocks from the park. The apts have kitchens and food at the restaurant was pretty good.
Can you do this anonymously? I've found it hard to send money without the girl learning your real name. Can What's be used anonymously?I have not tried it yet. But another way to use credit card is if you get one of them prepaid and load money and does not need your name.
Can't comment on the Marriott but just booked a month at the Itaim DoubleTree 10 nights on points rest cash. Stayed before during the renovation work, rooms are fine, breakfast left a lot to be desired. No problem with guests.Thanks for the info! I have stayed at a few doubletrees in South America and I think only the one in Lima had good breakfast. Which is a shame because Marriott makes their gold members pay for breakfast where Hilton properties its free.
Member #4732
08-28-20, 01:53
I have not stayed at Hilton. Marriott Apt is like 5 minutes from Cafe Photo and a few blocks from the park. The apts have kitchens and food at the restaurant was pretty good.FWIW Photo will not reopen at that address, thankfully. I hate that vibe. They will reopen at a new location, probably on Bandeirantes, and hopefully with a less up tight vibe.
Steve 9696
08-28-20, 14:06
Can you do this anonymously? I've found it hard to send money without the girl learning your real name. Can What's be used anonymously?Never mind I figured out how to use PayPal for this just using an email address for the girl. It gave me like a 5. 4 exchange. Can't believe how cheap the Real is. It was 4. 0 last summer.
Key to being anonymous on PayPal is to open a business account. You need your real name and real funding but the recipient sees only the business name and address. Be careful obviously with the address. I believe you can set it to something random since your home address is the key identifier in PayPal's database.
Would some of my smarter ISG guys recommend I buy some reals now while they are so low. I'm coming down in November and feel I should take advantage. I only worry about a surge stopping the trip and the real rebounding and having to sell them back at a lesser rate.
Never mind I figured out how to use PayPal for this just using an email address for the girl. It gave me like a 5. 4 exchange. Can't believe how cheap the Real is. It was 4. 0 last summer.
Key to being anonymous on PayPal is to open a business account. You need your real name and real funding but the recipient sees only the business name and address. Be careful obviously with the address. I believe you can set it to something random since your home address is the key identifier in PayPal's database.Thought the fees are high, 5.4 when real rate was 5. 6 when you did it?
Would some of my smarter ISG guys recommend I buy some reals now while they are so low. I'm coming down in November and feel I should take advantage. I only worry about a surge stopping the trip and the real rebounding and having to sell them back at a lesser rate.I would speculate that it will go higher as spending and new GDP numbers are released in the coming months. It was 5.96 a few weeks ago.
Steve 9696
08-29-20, 22:10
Thought the fees are high, 5.4 when real rate was 5. 6 when you did it?Yeah probably true. But I was only sending a bit of money and it's chump change in the scheme of things vs the convenience.
Member #4732
08-30-20, 14:32
I don't understand all the anxiety over payment methods. Its 2020 guys. I haven't worried about payment since the early 2000's. Just get a credit card and bank account that have no foreign transaction fees. Problem solved. Use credit card for all normal consumer transactions and cash for P4 P. Only Withdraw cash from ATMs that are located inside banks that have visible security. Follow these simple steps and you have convenience and safety.
Worst case, with mobile alerts you will be aware quickly of any fraudulent activity.
Would some of my smarter ISG guys recommend I buy some reals now while they are so low. I'm coming down in November and feel I should take advantage. I only worry about a surge stopping the trip and the real rebounding and having to sell them back at a lesser rate.It's usually not a bad idea to buy "some" currency with a trip on the short-term horizon. I discourage my friends of stockpiling currency for multiple trips over the next few years. This might make some sense if you were going to live in Brazil for awhile. Otherwise, it's hard to guess the market.
The general mistake people make about currencies is that it takes two currencies to tango. In other words, the US $ in recent months has been weak against peers as the Fed prints money and tries to prop up the COVID economy. I see no reason to see that change before the election.
Is Brazil in worse shape with the virus and economy? Perhaps, but there is a lot of uncertainty. Some news on the vaccine front could be more beneficial for Brazil relative to the USA. So you have a lot of volatility and the risk your trip will be cancelled. I don't think anyone can give you a definitive answer.
Dasisextra
08-31-20, 07:19
I don't understand all the anxiety over payment methods. Its 2020 guys. I haven't worried about payment since the early 2000's. Just get a credit card and bank account that have no foreign transaction fees. Problem solved. Use credit card for all normal consumer transactions and cash for P4 P. Only Withdraw cash from ATMs that are located inside banks that have visible security. Follow these simple steps and you have convenience and safety.
Worst case, with mobile alerts you will be aware quickly of any fraudulent activity.Agree 100%, spent over 5 months in Brazil last year, pre Covid this year, used credit card to cover entry fees & drinks in Rio Termas & many SP clubs, used cash for the girls because clubs that will take girl payment charge a supplement. All the clubs show up as some restaurant or other & I had no issues or problems at all. Will do the same on planned trip later this year.
I don't understand all the anxiety over payment methods. Its 2020 guys. I haven't worried about payment since the early 2000's. Just get a credit card and bank account that have no foreign transaction fees. Problem solved...Sex budget let's say 1500 R per day. Maximum ATM withdrawal 1000 R. Allowing for other expenditures (beside rent) that means 2 ATM withdrawals each day. If you stay for 2 months it means 120 ATM withdrawals. What could possibly go wrong?
Sex budget let's say 1500 R per day. Maximum ATM withdrawal 1000 R. Allowing for other expenditures (beside rent) that means 2 ATM withdrawals each day. If you stay for 2 months it means 120 ATM withdrawals. What could possibly go wrong?Bredesco lets you take out multiple withdrawals from the same machine until you hit your daily limit for your bank. I've taken out 5000 are before.
Sex budget let's say 1500 R per day. Maximum ATM withdrawal 1000 R. Allowing for other expenditures (beside rent) that means 2 ATM withdrawals each day. If you stay for 2 months it means 120 ATM withdrawals. What could possibly go wrong?I'm not exactly sure that rate of expenditure is realistic for most of us. 1500 R is a lot to spend in Brazil every day for sixty days. (I can hear ABG saying you could live at a clinica for that amount.) Regardless if you keep that pace, I believe most of the boates and clinicas accept credit / debit cards. Hell, some of the top escorts will take credit card. It goes without saying most groceries and restaurants take credit / debit cards.
Some guys like having a lot of cash traveling abroad. They feel more secure having it on-hand. Some of my crew goes to Brazil and other locales with a wad of cash in their pants or bag and promptly deposit it in the safe deposit box in their room. You also have some guys who are in cash businesses. Some of their income never sees a bank account.
Between ATMs and charging, I've been fine with my cards (no FX fees). The one time I had a problem abroad I had a new card the next day. So yes have some back-up.
I don't understand all the anxiety over payment methods. Its 2020 guys. I haven't worried about payment since the early 2000's. Just get a credit card and bank account that have no foreign transaction fees. Problem solved. Use credit card for all normal consumer transactions and cash for P4 P. Only Withdraw cash from ATMs that are located inside banks that have visible security. Follow these simple steps and you have convenience and safety.
Worst case, with mobile alerts you will be aware quickly of any fraudulent activity.Bingo!
I think on the Rio thread some guys occasionally experience getting much better than the published market rate for foreign exchange. I have not been so lucky. Back in the 1990's, some local cash businesses would be aggressively seeking Dollars. I personally haven't seen this in years.
So if this happens, it appears to be a timing thing and hunting down the best rate on the ground. It also might be a Rio thing when the timing is right.
DreamCarnarvon
08-31-20, 19:29
Sex budget let's say 1500 R per day. Maximum ATM withdrawal 1000 R. Allowing for other expenditures (beside rent) that means 2 ATM withdrawals each day. If you stay for 2 months it means 120 ATM withdrawals. What could possibly go wrong?I assume your calculation of 120 ATM withdrawals implied a little exaggeration and sarcasm. But I do agree the more you withdrawal from the ATM the more your risk increases. I think its perfectly fine to just rely on ATM for short stays of 1-2 weeks. However, anything longer than that I would bring some cash as a backup. The amount would depend on the length of stay. I stayed in Sao Paulo and Rio for 2.5 months on my last trip. In Sao Paulo I relied solely on my ATM card. And in Rio I used a bit of both ATM card and dollar (the casas de cambios in Copa gave out fantastic exchange rates). Of course my daily sex budget was no where near R1500 per day. That seems like an unrealistic daily average for a 2 month stay. I can see some weekend warriors splurging that amount of money. Also the R1000 max withdrawal limit also seems unrealistic. My bank (and I think most banks) allows much more than that. Every person is different on how they obtain and spend their money. But the bottom line is be extra care with your money when you are abroad. Especially in Brazil, only use ATM machines that are located inside banks and / or in areas of high traffic.
DreamCarnarvon
08-31-20, 19:57
Regardless if you keep that pace, I believe most of the boates and clinicas accept credit / debit cards. Hell, some of the top escorts will take credit card. It goes without saying most groceries and restaurants take credit / debit cards.The boates, clinicas and escorts who take credit cards usually tack on a fee. While the fee is not much, it does add up, especially on a long trip. That's why I almost always pay in cash. But sometimes it can be a pain in the ass. The ATM machines almost always dispense large bills so the smaller bills are hard to come by. I always try to give the girls the exact change as most can't break up the big bills. I even had instances in clinicas where they couldn't give my change right away and told me they would have it after the session. I remember one time in Rio, I forget about my change upon leaving the casa. It was only after I got back to my place that I realized that. I immediately went back to the casa and got my change. LOL.
Member #4732
08-31-20, 21:32
Sex budget let's say 1500 R per day. Maximum ATM withdrawal 1000 R. Allowing for other expenditures (beside rent) that means 2 ATM withdrawals each day. If you stay for 2 months it means 120 ATM withdrawals. What could possibly go wrong?First of all I have taken 2000 at a pop out of Santander, and I am not even sure if that is the limit. Plus you can do multiple withdrawals until you hit your own bank limit. Frankly if you can't working girl till you drop daily on less than 1500 reias you are doing something wrong. I do top girls every day for 300 reias for 2 hours. Just got to play the game right. Top as in both great looks and service.
Also as I said in original post if you want to maximize your cash for P4P you use the credit card for all other commercial activity. I reemphasize, this should be a non problem.
Member #4732
08-31-20, 21:36
The boates, clinicas and escorts who take credit cards usually tack on a fee. While the fee is not much, it does add up, especially on a long trip. That's why I almost always pay in cash. But sometimes it can be a pain in the ass. The ATM machines almost always dispense large bills so the smaller bills are hard to come by. I always try to give the girls the exact change as most can't break up the big bills. I even had instances in clinicas where they couldn't give my change right away and told me they would have it after the session. I remember one time in Rio, I forget about my change upon leaving the casa. It was only after I got back to my place that I realized that. I immediately went back to the casa and got my change. LOL.The ARMs dispense mostly 50's and 100's yes. But every free lancer charges a multiple of 50 so I see no problem. Every clinica or boate has change. I do this every day for years and I have never had a problem with cash in putaria, never. In fact the clinicas and the boates are the only places in Brazil that reliably have change.
This whole thread is the biggest mountain of a mole hill ever.
Member #4732
08-31-20, 21:41
I assume your calculation of 120 ATM withdrawals implied a little exaggeration and sarcasm. But I do agree the more you withdrawal from the ATM the more your risk increases. I think its perfectly fine to just rely on ATM for short stays of 1-2 weeks. However, anything longer than that I would bring some cash as a backup. The amount would depend on the length of stay. I stayed in Sao Paulo and Rio for 2.5 months on my last trip. In Sao Paulo I relied solely on my ATM card. And in Rio I used a bit of both ATM card and dollar (the casas de cambios in Copa gave out fantastic exchange rates). Of course my daily sex budget was no where near R1500 per day. That seems like an unrealistic daily average for a 2 month stay. I can see some weekend warriors splurging that amount of money. Also the R1000 max withdrawal limit also seems unrealistic. My bank (and I think most banks) allows much more than that. Every person is different on how they obtain and spend their money. But the bottom line is be extra care with your money when you are abroad. Especially in Brazil, only use ATM machines that are located inside banks and / or in areas of high traffic.I live here and I do cash withdrawals all the time so I think that qualifies as more than a short stay. Just be smart and use ATMs located in banks that have visible security guards. I have used santander in Moema for 3 years without a single incident. In 10 years in Brazil I got cloned 2 times, both at bradesco, once in Rio and once in SP. The last time was in 2015.
Member #4732
08-31-20, 21:44
Bingo!
I think on the Rio thread some guys occasionally experience getting much better than the published market rate for foreign exchange. I have not been so lucky. Back in the 1990's, some local cash businesses would be aggressively seeking Dollars. I personally haven't seen this in years.
So if this happens, it appears to be a timing thing and hunting down the best rate on the ground. It also might be a Rio thing when the timing is right.With the usdbrl over 5 no one should be complaining about any exchange rate, I use Santander ATM and I don't even think aa out it. I am sure it is as good or better than exchanging money at a cambio.
Member #4732
08-31-20, 21:59
First of all I have taken 2000 at a pop out of Santander, and I am not even sure if that is the limit. Plus you can do multiple withdrawals until you hit your own bank limit. Frankly if you can't working girl till you drop daily on less than 1500 reias you are doing something wrong. I do top girls every day for 300 reias for 2 hours. Just got to play the game right. Top as in both great looks and service.
Also as I said in original post if you want to maximize your cash for P4P you use the credit card for all other commercial activity. I reemphasize, this should be a non problem.To clarify one thing I wrote so as not to create unrealistic expectations. I get top girls to see me for 300 reias 2 hours. A visitor should not expect that. But even if you pay double what I pay. You are looking at 300 per hour for good indies and 150-250 at very good clinicas. Paying above 300 an hour is a luxury fuck at a luxury clinica, boate, or an overpriced oversiliconed seasoned pro indy.
I live here How is the vibe of the city since you are there?
Is it like NYC where it is a like ghost town?
Haven't book the trip yet since noticed all the clubs are closed at this time.
But every free lancer charges a multiple of 50 so I see no problem.Yes, I thought that was a strange comment. Freelancers don't have prices like 327 Reais.
I'm an ATM / credit card guy. The funny thing is every time I came back from Brazil I have all these small bills in my pocket. How do I accumulate all these small bills? Basically, Day One is hit the ATM then off to the grocery store. Even if you don't have a kitchen, buy some booze and snacks. The rest of the trip just kind of works out.
I even met a pro at a club once and told her I didn't have a lot of cash on me. She said that's okay you can pay me in the morning.
If you like cash, you like cash. Let's not scare first-timers.
DreamCarnarvon
09-01-20, 08:15
Yes, I thought that was a strange comment. Freelancers don't have prices like 327 Reais.
I'm an ATM / credit card guy. The funny thing is every time I came back from Brazil I have all these small bills in my pocket. How do I accumulate all these small bills? Basically, Day One is hit the ATM then off to the grocery store. Even if you don't have a kitchen, buy some booze and snacks. The rest of the trip just kind of works out.
I even met a pro at a club once and told her I didn't have a lot of cash on me. She said that's okay you can pay me in the morning.
If you like cash, you like cash. Let's not scare first-timers.I was not trying to scare anyone. I was just trying to help and contribute to the forum based on what my experiences were. First off not EVERY freelancer charge in multiples of R50. If you don't believe me just go to the Acompanhantes SP section under Sao Paulo on GP-Guia.net. There are reports from Brazilian guys of freelancers charging R60, R80, R120, R130, R140, R160, R180, R210, R215, R230, R260, R360, R370, etc. I guess all of them must be lying then. I don't doubt Rovnak fuck super models everyday for R300. But just because he never paid a price that is not in the multiples of R50, doesn't mean they don't exist.
I should of made it clearer that it could be a pain in the ass when you initally withdrawal from the ATM and get a wad of large notes. But yes I agree with you, as you use you money over time such as shop at grocery stores and eating out at restaurants, you will naturally accumulate smaller notes.
It didn't happen often but I've had incidents in both Rio and Sao Paulo where I go pay for the session and was told by the receptionist that she will give my change after my session or wait while she go and break the large notes I gave her because the clinica didn't have the exact change right at that moment. Did I always eventually get my change? Yes. But the statement Rovnak made, and I quote " Every clinica or boate has change. In fact the clinicas and the boates are the only places in Brazil that reliably have change. " somehow was not true in my experiences. Again, I am just stating the facts from my personal experiences. If 1000 times out of 1000 you got your exact change right on the spot without ever needing to wait, then Roynak, you are one lucky man.
I never warned people not to use ATM cards. In fact I stated in my original post that ATM was all I used when I stayed in Sao Paulo for 2 months. I was just suggesting to carry some dollars, just in case in the unlikely event that the ATM card gets cloned or lost. Its almost always a good idea to have backup plans, especially in a foreign country where one don't have easy access to his local bank back home.
No hard feelings guys. I don't doubt what WyattEarp and Roynak stated are true. But two statements can also be true at the same time. Like the rest of ISG, the Sao Paulo forum has not had any recent trip reports due to the pandemic. I am hoping that those ISG members who are going to Sao Paulo or Rio in the near future can post trip reports so us guys who can't go can at least experience Brazil once again vicariously.
With Scandallo opening soon (tomorrow?) I expect you local residents to have boots on the ground reports by week's end.
Would love to get down there in a week or so, as I already received the Moderna vaccine.
Member #4732
09-01-20, 21:27
I was not trying to scare anyone. I was just trying to help and contribute to the forum based on what my experiences were. First off not EVERY freelancer charge in multiples of R50. If you don't believe me just go to the Acompanhantes SP section under Sao Paulo on GP-Guia.net. There are reports from Brazilian guys of freelancers charging R60, R80, R120, R130, R140, R160, R180, R210, R215, R230, R260, R360, R370, etc. I guess all of them must be lying then. I don't doubt Rovnak fuck super models everyday for R300. But just because he never paid a price that is not in the multiples of R50, doesn't mean they don't exist.
I never warned people not to use ATM cards. In fact I stated in my original post that ATM was all I used when I stayed in Sao Paulo for 2 months. I was just suggesting to carry some dollars, just in case in the unlikely event that the ATM card gets cloned or lost. Its almost always a good idea to have backup plans, especially in a foreign country where one don't have easy access to his local bank back home..I think Wyatt was saying that he and I should not scare anyone who prefers to bring cash and exchange it.
As for non 50 segments. OK fair enough there are some freelance ads for 120 and 180 for example but most are multiples of 50. But I mean the absolute worse case you round up the extra 20 reais which is what 4 USD.
Yes, back up plan is essential, either cash as you suggested or a 2nd account which is what I have.
Its all good, whatever people want to do.
With Scandallo opening soon (tomorrow?) I expect you local residents to have boots on the ground reports by week's end.
Would love to get down there in a week or so, as I already received the Moderna vaccine.How do you know you did not get the placebo?
How do you know you did not get the placebo?I felt under the weather for a couple days. I'm 80% sure I got the drug and that my mind is not playing tricks on me.
Confirmation will be in 3 weeks when I get the booster shot. The side effects are typically much more significant after the second injection, including fever. Then I'll know for sure.
With Scandallo opening soon (tomorrow?) I expect you local residents to have boots on the ground reports by week's end.Was told there were 200 girls there, not lowering their price either.
UniversalX
09-03-20, 11:28
I see Scandallo Lounge is about to reopen. Since I had nothing to do I was on social media and saw some potential mongering spots that to my recollection had not been mentioned in the SP forum. If anyone has time to check them out please report your findings or if you already know if any of these establishments please report your experiences. I haven't been to SP in such a long time so I cannot vouch for these establishments except for Love Story (but again I do not know how it is now). Some may be a distance away. Anyhoo. Just something I saw while on social media. I added some regular clubs just for fun. Copy paste links.
Mongering spots:
Gauguin Club -Rua Arizona, 1550, Brooklin, 04567-003 Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil http://www.gauguinclub.com.br/ +55115505-5515.
812 Night Club -Guarulhos. Av. Carlos Ferreira Endres No812-Itapegica,07041-030 Guarulhos, SP, Brazil http://www.812club.com.br +551195086-9949.
SPICY (Swing) CLUB -Alameda dos Pamaris, 42 Moema, So Paulo, SP https://spicyclub.com.br/ +551194762-2027.
2028 Augusta Bar -Rua Augusta, 2028,01412-000 - Cerqueira seesar, So Paulo / SP http://2028bar.com.br/ +551193407-8780.
Nova Ilha the Fantasia -Avenida Salim Farah Maluf - 3680 - Quarta Parada, So Paulo. SP https://www.ilhadafantasia.com.br/ +551198522-8046.
Playboy Night Club -Rua Tuiuti, 1230 - Tatuap, 03081-012 - So Paulo. SP https://playboynightclub.com.br/ +551197042-8340.
Connection Night Club -Av. Dr. Eduardo Cotching, 1178, Jardim Anlia Franco. So Paulo. SP http://www.connectionvip.com.br/ +55112672-1700.
Regular Clubs (Mongering Potential*)
Dukke Entretenimento -Rua Funchal, 619, So Paulo, SP, Brazil https://www.facebook.com/DukKeSP.
Carioca Club -Rua Cardeal Arcoverde, 2899 http://web.cariocaclub.com.br/.
LE Reve -Rua. Marqus de Paranagu, 329 http://www.lereveclub.com.br/ https://youtu.be/PWtJR6x9bRM.
Love Story* - Rua. Arajo, 232 Repblica http://www.danceterialovestory.tur.br/.
Cafe Piu Piu -Rua. Treze de Maio, 134 Bela Vista http://cafepiupiu.com.br/.
Gracia Bar -Rua Corop, 87 https://graciabar.com.br/.
Bourbon Street Music Club -Rua. Dos Chans, 127 https://bourbonstreet.com.br/.
Mahau -Rua. Professor Atlio Innocenti 160, Itaim Bibi http://www.mahaurestaurantebar.com.br/.
Sutton Sao Paulo -Avenida Brigadeiro Faria Lima 4509,18 floor. Rooftop, Sao Paulo, 03178-200.
https://youtu.be/NYmO5I5iOX0
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https://youtu.be/01P7ilEt7bY
I see Scandallo Lounge is about to reopen. Since I had nothing to do I was on social media and saw some potential mongering spots that to my recollection had not been mentioned in the SP forum. If anyone has time to check them out please report your findings or if you already know if any of these establishments please report your experiences. I haven't been to SP in such a long time so I cannot vouch for these establishments except for Love Story (but again I do not know how it is now). Some may be a distance away. Anyhoo. Just something I saw while on social media. I added some regular clubs just for fun..My report from September 2019:
Like Lalabo, one of my goals with this trip is to do a little scouting. The mongering scene is Sao Paulo is large, and I admit I have sampled only a small part of it. So, I'm making sure to mix in some places I have not been to before along with others that I already know I like. That's why last night I decided to try The Connection Nightclub. I did not know it, but this place is owned by the same folks who own and run Scandallo. At least that's what one of the girl's told me. Connection is way on the other side of town. I would say that with traffic, it probably took about 30 minutes to get there. I took a taxi, and the cost was around 70 reals, which is still awfully cheap compared to what a similar ride would have cost in the States. I tried using Uber, but it didn't work. Think I will try one more time.
Now when you get there, you're going to find that this club is much more hardcore Brazilian. If you're not used to being out of your element and get rattled by the unfamiliar, then maybe Connection ought not be your first mongering stop in Sao Paulo. Nobody was speaking a word of English. They will even tell you that they don't understand Spanish, but what I have found is that if you do go ahead and start speaking in Spanish, many people will in fact understand a lot of what you are saying. So, if you have the Spanish like I do, then use that. It does help. Upon arrival, you will see a glass booth on your right with some ladies in it. You need to go their and show them some ID. They will then associate your name with an account, and give you a card that you will provide to the bartenders and waiters whenever you order food and drink. This is how they track what you consume. Then when you leave, you pay. There was no entrada or consumption fee I needed to pay before going in. You pay when you leave. Same system as at Chanes 57, only electronic versus on paper.
Upon entering the club, I found it to be long and narrow (but not too narrow), with a stage for a band immediately to my left, and a long bar across the way on the other side. This was also the main club area with seating for patrons and the girls. The next room back was the restaurant, which seemed to have more people in it than the main club area when I got there around 9:30 pm. I didn't realize it at first, but the club was bigger than I thought. One of the bubble butt tutes in there was kind enough to show me ha! Off of the restaurant was a good sized, enclosed smoking area. There was a tiny little area where some people were gambling. And then another decent sized back bar.
OK, so what about the ladies? Well, I was reasonably impressed! It was hard to say how many were there at peak time around midnight because of the layout of the place. But I'm going to guess around 50 with several of them very doable. Lots of 7's and 8's like at Cafe Photo, but I kind of liked the vibe at Connection better. I think it was because the Connection girls dress and act more provocatively. I'm talking short, tight dresses and skirts hugging their asses and barely covering their cheeks! To entice the men, sometimes they would sit in their laps and grind. I saw one girl reaching for and stroking the dick. Lifting their dresses and skirts up to give a monger a peak. I know some guys don't like this and say it's not "classy", but I prefer a little "grime" every now and then. The Cane likes a little trash! The Cane likes a little trash! The Cane likes it "trashy" at times LOL! The thing is, the club itself looked nice. Not dirty or anything at all.
Often times in the Sao Paulo boites the girls will not approach, and expect you to let them know you like them if you want them to come over. But as the clock struck midnight, they starting getting more aggressive lest they run the risk of not making any money for the night. One girl who I would rate a 6.5 to 7 actually approached me earlier. I had just ordered an appetizer, and I asked her to share it with me. An appetizer in Brazil sometimes can be the size of a full meal it seems to me! She was nice and all, but spoke no English. She didn't even seem to know how to use Google Translate on a smart phone. Anyway, we talked for awhile and ate. But I knew I would not go with her, and told her I did not want to waste her time. No hard feelings. Peck on the cheek, and she left.
The thing is, having overspent the night before, I decided that I was going to tamp it down at Connection and not go with anybody unless she just "moved" me. "Touched" me in just the right way. Got approached by a redhead (not natural) with a tattoo on my arm. She asked me what I was looking for that night. I replied, "Oh, I don't know. Anal sex"? Big laugh out of that LOL! Well, she had looked interesting from afar, but her face and in the end her body just did not cut it. Then had another girl tried the "you don't like me approach". I said it had nothing to do with her, but that sometimes a man is just not ready. Now, there were two morenas in there with huge, plump, round bubble butts! They were friends! I was sure that if the shorter of the two approached me, then I was not going to be able to resist her. Especially if she parked her big hind parts on my dick and started to grind! Well, she did approach me. In fact, she was the one who showed me around. But I ended up being disappointed because her face didn't quite do it for me. Not that she was ugly, but was just a little older than I thought at first, maybe into her 30's. Would not have hesitated to bone the 20's version of herself hehe.
In the end, I chose nobody. However, there were enough doable girls at this club that if were a regular in Sao Paulo, I would put it into the rotation. Oh, and I almost forgot to say something about prices. Like the guy explained outside before I came in, the girls do their own thing, and from what I gather, they charge lower than places like Scandallo, Bomboa, and Cafe Photo. I didn't get too specific with many of the girls, but one of them started out at 500 reals for an hour. That's half of what the tutes start out at in the other places mentioned. I'm sure you can work a little wiggle room into that too. Now, the one who told me 500 said that would include anal. But to be honest, I was a little skeptical. I mean, she said that anal was "hard", which led me to believe that we could get up there to the room and she might try, but then not come through with the full deal saying it was "too hard" for her. Speaking of the rooms, the girl who showed me around said that the hotel was located above the club with on-premises rooms for use. No idea how good the rooms are as I did not session.
I spent three hours hanging out at The Connection Nightclub. While there, I had three drinks and an appetizer that I shared with a girl. When I left, my final bill was 260 reals. That was about $65 for the night, plus round trip taxi fare at about 70 reals each way. Like I said, if I had the opportunity, I would give The Connection Nightclub another try on another night. Lots of 7's and 8's at more potentially favorable prices than at places like Scandallo, Bomboa, and Cafe Photo.
Gentlemen,
After my 4 day visit back in Jan last year where I must have gone through 2 sometimes 4 girls a day, I am finally returning to SP on Monday for 2 days however I have just found out its a different hotel to where I stayed last time. I think it's the Renaissance Jardins but haven't been able to confirm yet.
The outcall highlights of my last visit were meeting Barbara Balbeck and Ágata Muñoz (maybe I got the surname wrong-she has a Huge Clit and is mega passionate in bed), from splove. I wondered if anyone has any recommendations of girls active just now for outcall? I'm more a fan of the slim / skinny / small ass build which I know is not the thing in Brazil generally.
Cheers gents, I will report of course, as last time.
I was last in Sao Paulo in early 2019 and I am starting to think about returning in February 2021. In the past I would spend most of my time at the Cllinicas (Tangara, Miruna, etc.) during the day. Just wondering if any of them are currently open or planning to reopen soon? Would be really interested to hear from any locals on the current situation.
UniversalX
09-04-20, 06:08
My report from September 2019:I prefer a little "grime" every now and then. The Cane likes a little trash! The Cane likes a little trash! The Cane likes it "trashy" at times LOL! Great report, I did not see the original report. Thank you for reposting your experience. I especially like your above quote. I share the same sentiments. Again great report.
Hopefully others can report on some of the other establishments on the list in the future. SP is so large there is bound to be undiscovered gems.
UniversalX
09-04-20, 06:21
I was last in Sao Paulo in early 2019 and I am starting to think about returning in February 2021. In the past I would spend most of my time at the Cllinicas (Tangara, Miruna, etc.) during the day. Just wondering if any of them are currently open or planning to reopen soon? Would be really interested to hear from any locals on the current situation.https://clinicatangara.com.br/
http://clinicamiruna.com.br/
Contact via WhatsApp or email. Hopefully they will answer.
UniversalX
09-04-20, 06:35
Renaissance Jardins but haven't been able to confirm yet.I have not stayed at the Renaissance Jardins but I know the area, good spot. You could walk to http://casaraoaugusta.com.br/ from hotel (may not be open yet). I find the area very convenient. Shopping / Restaurants / Grocery Stores / etc.
Thanks for the tips!
I was walking distance from tangara last time I was there and thoroughly enjoyed it, think I went 4 times!
I'll only have Monday and Tuesday to play so hopefully can report something.
Member #4732
09-04-20, 15:51
https://clinicatangara.com.br/
http://clinicamiruna.com.br/
Contact via WhatsApp or email. Hopefully they will answer.Clinicas are all open and have been for months.
I'm more a fan of the slim / skinny / small ass build which I know is not the thing in Brazil generally.And.
As you know, Sao Paulo has a large, diverse population. We can all find almost any look we desire there. Of course, Brazil is a magical place for ass lovers.
I'm curious. Does a skinny, Euro princess like Sara Muller appeal to you? Or are you interested in finding skinny Morenas and / or skinny Black girls?
https://twitter.com/Sara__Muller
https://www.saramullergp.com.br/ensaios-sensuais
Thanks for the tips!
I was walking distance from tangara last time I was there and thoroughly enjoyed it, think I went 4 times!
I'll only have Monday and Tuesday to play so hopefully can report something.The Renaissance is a nice hotel, stayed there a number of times. It used to be fairly expensive, I remember paying $400 a night when staying there on business but with the weaker real it looks to be less these days. As others have said the area around the hotel is nice, close to Ave Paulista and there are some good restaurants if you walk down the hill on Haddock Lobo. It's about a 20 minute uber to Tangara with traffic and closer to 30 minutes if you want to go to the Moema area. I am considering staying at the Renaissance again when I return early next year but I am also thinking about other areas (Vila Mariana or Morumbi / Brooklin area).
The Renaissance is a nice hotel, stayed there a number of times. It used to be fairly expensive, I remember paying $400 a night when staying there on business but with the weaker real it looks to be less these days. As others have said the area around the hotel is nice, close to Ave Paulista and there are some good restaurants if you walk down the hill on Haddock Lobo. It's about a 20 minute uber to Tangara with traffic and closer to 30 minutes if you want to go to the Moema area. I am considering staying at the Renaissance again when I return early next year but I am also thinking about other areas (Vila Mariana or Morumbi / Brooklin area).Don't even need to leave the hotel, there pros at the lobby's bar looking to catch gringos there and Hotel Unique. Probably some other hotels too.
I guess security don't bother them since they are buying drinks for themselves.
Hello friends,
Would Rio or SP be best for a newbie who does not speak Portuguese and enjoys darker women? I am not really the club type, so I would mostly be dealing with escorts. I looked on Photoacompanhantes and it looks like Rio has more darker women, but I have heard from some other fellow mongers that Sao Paulo is the safer and nicer city for a newbie. Can I get your opinions on this? My PMs are open too!
Mmm I remember considering Sara muller last time, I'll perhaps have a go this trip! Looking on the map I think I stayed once in the past at the Renaissance, if not then it was somewhere in the same few blocks.
Thanks guys.
I felt under the weather for a couple days. I'm 80% sure I got the drug and that my mind is not playing tricks on me.
Confirmation will be in 3 weeks when I get the booster shot. The side effects are typically much more significant after the second injection, including fever. Then I'll know for sure.I like the way you think, get the vaccine to be able to hit up Brasil! I may follow your lead. PM me.
Hello friends,
Would Rio or SP be best for a newbie who does not speak Portuguese and enjoys darker women? I am not really the club type, so I would mostly be dealing with escorts. I looked on Photoacompanhantes and it looks like Rio has more darker women, but I have heard from some other fellow mongers that Sao Paulo is the safer and nicer city for a newbie. Can I get your opinions on this? My PMs are open too!Rio has a higher % of darker women, but SP has plenty. There are 20+ million people in Sao Paulo, with every type of woman available.
Both cities can be plenty dangerous. But if you take the standard precautions, you'll likely be fine.
Go to BOTH. They are like a 40 minute, $50 flight away from each other. If you're in Brasil for at least a week, there is no reason to not visit both. Then you can decide which one you like the best. If you haven't already bought your plane ticket, I suggest buying an open jaw ticket flying into Sao Paulo and back home from Rio (or vice versa).
MonkeyPaw28
09-07-20, 03:34
Hello friends,
Would Rio or SP be best for a newbie who does not speak Portuguese and enjoys darker women? I am not really the club type, so I would mostly be dealing with escorts. I looked on Photoacompanhantes and it looks like Rio has more darker women, but I have heard from some other fellow mongers that Sao Paulo is the safer and nicer city for a newbie. Can I get your opinions on this? My PMs are open too!Citizen, I recommend São Paulo. If I were in the capital I could point you to places where locals go. With approximately $ 10 you fuck a lot of hot girls.
I'm Brazilian, believe me. São Paulo is perfect for beginners.
The Critic
09-07-20, 06:16
Hello friends,
Would Rio or SP be best for a newbie who does not speak Portuguese and enjoys darker women? I am not really the club type, so I would mostly be dealing with escorts. I looked on Photoacompanhantes and it looks like Rio has more darker women, but I have heard from some other fellow mongers that Sao Paulo is the safer and nicer city for a newbie. Can I get your opinions on this? My PMs are open too!
See previous posts:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2193-General-Info&p=2425618&viewfull=1#post2425618
and
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2193-General-Info&p=2425536&viewfull=1#post2425536
Read SP and RIO forums this is a often talked about subject with various opinions. Read the Forums......lots of helpful info.
I do feel a little more English spoken in Rio and overall more accommodating to Tourist.
As previously mentioned, plane ticket between the two cities is cheap, so cheap you should do both cities and its only a hour flight.
Examples:
Nonstop GIG to GRU ($25 USD up to $53 USD) on GOL Airlines.
Nonstop SDU to CGH ($25 USD up to $53 USD) on GOL Airlines.
Thank you my friends for the information. I will probably check out SP first, that is after I take a crash course in Portuguese. Anyone else more of an escort guy instead of a club or bar monger? I don't really have the patience for small talk or the charisma for it, so Photoacompanhantes looks ideal. Looks cheaper than some of the places I've read about in this thread too, but I understand there's a very real risk of catfishing.
In mid 2019 I made a short trip to Sao Paulo. Day two I'm at an outside restaurant, the next table over invited me to there table. I spent some time with them and they treated me like a friend. They had as many polital questions for me as I had for them. The group was 3 girls and 3 guys. Some were during the evening some one said "buy the way are you looking for a working girl". No one blinked an eye, I said sure. That person started giving me directions to a place that he knew but he couldn't remember the name. With that several in the group including girls, started giving me advice on were to go (the girls would say, My friend goes to this place or I heard of this place) I thought Holy shit this is a gold mine of info. The place that they mostly agreed on was a place that had a small tree filed courtyard. The name of this place came up several times, The only thing I can remember about it was the card they gave you marked with your visit. After 5 visits the next visit was free. I'm not looking for a free visit but if someone knows the name of this place Please let me know.
In Sao Paulo what's the name of the place that keeps prack of your visits and offers a free visit after 5 visits. Thanks.
So, I ended up meeting https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sp/olivia-diaz.
She is, for me, absolutely a 15/10. Slim, yet curvy and feminine where it counts, just enough fat on the butt. Sexy as fuck tattoos, gorgeous face with cheeky nose and bubbly personality. Had an amazing time. I would have arranged to see her again tomorrow but she's flying home at around 0700. Super sweet, even offered to show me the ticket to confirm it, although that's not exactly necessary in my book, If she's going home, great, if she just doesn't want to repeat then fine, up to her, I'll know when I next message her.
Her English both on whatsapp and in person is excellent. Spanish/Peruvian descent if I am correct. Very petite. Also Bisexual.
We settled on 100 US with some extras as I couldn't get any change, and since I'm a dirty bastard and wanted to film the whole session she very politely asked for a reasonable amount more which I was happy to pay for future fappenings.
Goddess. Treat her kindly. No clock watching and when I asked her if we were short on time she just shrugged, looked at her phone and then looked me in the eye, slipped it back in and started to ride again.
She has an awesome metal playlist on her phone too.
She's gone straight to the top of my wank bank.
I wanted to try Sarah Muller but it appears no new clients until November
So, I ended up meeting https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sp/olivia-diaz.A Sao Paulo site than can go toe-to-toe with the Rio Sex Site! Life is good!
https://www.riosexsite.com/
DreamCarnarvon
09-07-20, 19:26
So, I ended up meeting https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sp/olivia-diaz.
She is, for me, absolutely a 15/10. Slim, yet curvy and feminine where it counts, just enough fat on the butt. Sexy as fuck tattoos, gorgeous face with cheeky nose and bubbly personality. Had an amazing time. I would have arranged to see her again tomorrow but she's flying home at around 0700. Super sweet, even offered to show me the ticket to confirm it, although that's not exactly necessary in my book, If she's going home, great, if she just doesn't want to repeat then fine, up to her, I'll know when I next message her.Thanks for the great review. She will definitely be on my "to do list" the next time I'm in Brasil! She is absolutely gorgeous! Is she 100% Peruvian or does she have some Brazilian blood in her too? I met a half Colombian half Brazilian lady last year and she was truly drop dead gorgeous. She had the complete package, face, body, personality, intelligent and spoke good English. Racially mixed women to me are some of the most gorgeous in the world. So imagine with Colombian and Brazilian genes mixed together, what you have is a super goddess! Anyone know where we can find more? I imagine there are tons in the boarder towns of Brasil and Colombian / Argentina / Venezuela / Peru / Bolivia / Paraguay / Uruguay. Did I miss any?
At Muppets, her bio stats she's 25 yrs old, do you have any idea on her real age? Her whatsapp number is from the Florianopolis area, so my guess that's where she lives. You can wait til she visits SP again or just go to her. Its only an hour flight away.
Member #4732
09-08-20, 02:30
Thank you my friends for the information. I will probably check out SP first, that is after I take a crash course in Portuguese. Anyone else more of an escort guy instead of a club or bar monger? I don't really have the patience for small talk or the charisma for it, so Photoacompanhantes looks ideal. Looks cheaper than some of the places I've read about in this thread too, but I understand there's a very real risk of catfishing.If you check my message history you will see I wrote 2 or more long threads with tips about how to minimize risk of bait and switch and identify good candidates in Photoacompanhantes. The truth is that its very difficult for a visitor to identify the legit diamonds there. I do very well with Photoacompanhantes but I peruse it every day, I know the bait and switch tells and I know the neighborhoods and the photo styles and the subtle queues. Sadly there has been an influx of bait and switch TGTBT ads, amazing looking ladies for 100 reias. 90% of those are bait and switch. The only way for a visitor to find a reliable escorts, be they on Photoacompanhantes, or Twitter, or Clubmodel or one of the many other sites is to make sure she has good recent reviews In gpguia. And even then language may be a barrier.
My advice for a visitor continues to be to go to clinicas and if you have a great time with a girl there you can ask her to see you privately for $$$ naturally. First time visitor almost always get burned if they try to jump into the escort pool.
Yeah, Floriablablabla is what she said.
Age. Hmm I'd say that 25 isn't far off. She is absolutely gorgeous, to be honest she is prettier in person. The photos make her look a little 'fuller'. She has a slim, expressive face and stunning brown doe eyes. She is a lot of fun, laughs a lot and generally does the GFE extremely well. Plus being a tiny spinner goes a long way in my book.
She is very good at making you feel like you are the sexiest man alive even if you are 20 years older and carrying a little extra weight LOL.
She speaks english and spanish fluently (and probably more but those are the only two I am fluent in).
I've arranged to meet her when I return to SP next month.
Today the plan is to meet Akemi https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sp/akemi-hamazaki or Liz Taylor https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/liz-taylor/ or Rubia https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/rubia-eliott/.
Although given that the only one who actually responds to messages in a decent time has been Akemi, I am sure it will be her.
Both Liz (who I think looks really hot) and Rubia took over 12 hours to reply, maybe they are busy but doesn't give much confidence.
In mid 2019 I made a short trip to Sao Paulo. Day two I'm at an outside restaurant, the next table over invited me to there table. I spent some time with them and they treated me like a friend. They had as many polital questions for me as I had for them. The group was 3 girls and 3 guys. Some were during the evening some one said "buy the way are you looking for a working girl". No one blinked an eye, I said sure. That person started giving me directions to a place that he knew but he couldn't remember the name. With that several in the group including girls, started giving me advice on were to go (the girls would say, My friend goes to this place or I heard of this place) I thought Holy shit this is a gold mine of info. The place that they mostly agreed on was a place that had a small tree filed courtyard. The name of this place came up several times, The only thing I can remember about it was the card they gave you marked with your visit. After 5 visits the next visit was free. I'm not looking for a free visit but if someone knows the name of this place Please let me know.Clinica Tangara has a courtyard with some small trees. I don't remember there being a loyalty card though but then everytime I went there I was a slightly drunk and be more concerned with painting girls white than loyalty cards.
Today the plan is to meet Akemi https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sp/akemi-hamazaki or Liz Taylor https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/liz-taylor/ or Rubia https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/rubia-eliott/.
Although given that the only one who actually responds to messages in a decent time has been Akemi, I am sure it will be her.
Both Liz (who I think looks really hot) and Rubia took over 12 hours to reply, maybe they are busy but doesn't give much confidence.Looks like you've done some research on your type. Have you considered these very highly-rated escorts?
Debora Drumond. She's been a petite all-star on the scene the last few years. Her Twitter thread is very candid WYSIWYG.
https://twitter.com/deboradrumondspd
Rebeca Goya. Definitely a pretty, skinny Euro type girl. She's been around a long time so her age might not suit everyone, but very sexual.
https://twitter.com/RebecaGoya
Looks like you've done some research on your type. Have you considered these very highly-rated escorts?
Debora Drumond. She's been a petite all-star on the scene the last few years. Her Twitter thread is very candid WYSIWYG.
https://twitter.com/deboradrumondspd
Rebeca Goya. Definitely a pretty, skinny Euro type girl. She's been around a long time so her age might not suit everyone, but very sexual.
https://twitter.com/RebecaGoyaWyatt, you are the man.
Deborah's twitter isn't working, it says the account doesn't exist.
Am going to contact Rebeca about maybe meeting later.
So I met Akemi earlier. Polar opposite to my experience yesterday with Olivia. She's pretty and the photos are fairly accurate, but whereas Olivia has a sculptured body which is obviously a result of time in the gym, eating well, and a surgeon's knife, Akemi's is a result of not eating enough. Large, obvious stretch marks on the ass (not as a result of having a baby, no signs on the stomach), very skinny legs with no definition, I wanted to take her for a steak instead of feed her my own meat. She's nice enough but to be honest it was like having a latex doll. Let me do whatever I wanted but 100% passive. No passion, no interaction. May as well have just got the fleshlight out.
Would not recommend unless you basically want to fuck a mannequin.
If you check my message history you will see I wrote 2 or more long threads with tips about how to minimize risk of bait and switch and identify good candidates in Photoacompanhantes. The truth is that its very difficult for a visitor to identify the legit diamonds there. I do very well with Photoacompanhantes but I peruse it every day, I know the bait and switch tells and I know the neighborhoods and the photo styles and the subtle queues. Sadly there has been an influx of bait and switch TGTBT ads, amazing looking ladies for 100 reias. 90% of those are bait and switch. The only way for a visitor to find a reliable escorts, be they on Photoacompanhantes, or Twitter, or Clubmodel or one of the many other sites is to make sure she has good recent reviews In gpguia. And even then language may be a barrier.
My advice for a visitor continues to be to go to clinicas and if you have a great time with a girl there you can ask her to see you privately for $$$ naturally. First time visitor almost always get burned if they try to jump into the escort pool.Read Rovnak's escort posts and heed his advice. Traveling to any country and thinking internet websites are simply point and click like Amazon shopping is very naive. Beyond Bait & Switch, Muppets experience with Akemi Hamazaki is a case and point. Akemi has no review footprint on the local boards from what I can tell. While she is the real deal in the flesh, in spirit she is likely not cut out for escorting. There are hundreds of beautiful girls who cycle through the main Brazilian website. Many of them simply disappear quickly.
I remember seeing this pretty, blonde girl with a natural body post ads. She even had Twitter videos that somewhat validated it was her. I was heading down and she had a couple of good reviews, but only from newbie reviewers. Then the poor reviews started popping up from active reviewers. I took a pass on her during my trip. She disappeared from the scene shortly thereafter.
Wyatt, you are the man.
Deborah's twitter isn't working, it says the account doesn't exist.
Am going to contact Rebeca about maybe meeting later.My bad. I cut and pasted it wrong. Debora is definitely a nice, hard body who is a great performer.
https://twitter.com/deboradrumondsp
I don't know if Beatriz is slim enough for your taste. She has a nice Girl Next Door smile.
https://twitter.com/bdellarosaluxo
Steve 9696
09-08-20, 20:27
Read Rovnak's escort posts and heed his advice. Traveling to any country and thinking internet websites are simply point and click like Amazon shopping is very naive. Beyond Bait & Switch, Muppets experience with Akemi Hamazaki is a case and point. Akemi has no review footprint on the local boards from what I can tell. While she is the real deal in the flesh, in spirit she is likely not cut out for escorting. There are hundreds of beautiful girls who cycle through the main Brazilian website. Many of them simply disappear quickly.
I remember seeing this pretty, blonde girl with a natural body post ads. She even had Twitter videos that somewhat validated it was her. I was heading down and she had a couple of good reviews, but only from newbie reviewers. Then the poor reviews started popping up from active reviewers. I took a pass on her during my trip. She disappeared from the scene shortly thereafter.Rovnaks tips are spot on. Number of reviewers is key. Look for a photo acompanhantes girl with 5+ reviews. You can put that in your search. And then go read them. Only count the experienced reviewers if she has 5 reviews from newbies thats like having zero reviews. And chrome should auto translate.
Even though there is google translate, let me put in another plug for learning Portuguese. I've only been to Brazil a handful times but I make the most of it with a least one girl a day (record being 5 girls and 5 venues in less than 24 hours!). But I decided I'the learn to speak it at a basic level. Last time I went my last girl was all in Portuguese. And we also did a Boate in the middle of nowhere. No English spoken by Uber dude, club people or girls. Totally could not have done this. Not a word of English. It was sooo awesome. And now I chat up hotties on Seeking Arrangement in Portuguese. It's so fun and you stand out from the crowd.
Highly recommend. Totally worth the investment for me.
Muppets, I have no experience with Sara Bunny nor do I have any personal recommendations from friends, but she is getting solid buzz. She looks like she might be your type....a petite bunny.
https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sp/sara-bunny
https://twitter.com/SaraPrincesinh4.
Back in March, some people mentioned 300 reais for an 1:15 hours and 500 for two hours. I like the extra time.
Member #4732
09-08-20, 21:16
Wyatt, you are the man.
Deborah's twitter isn't working, it says the account doesn't exist.
Am going to contact Rebeca about maybe meeting later.
So I met Akemi earlier. Polar opposite to my experience yesterday with Olivia. She's pretty and the photos are fairly accurate, but whereas Olivia has a sculptured body which is obviously a result of time in the gym, eating well, and a surgeon's knife, Akemi's is a result of not eating enough. Large, obvious stretch marks on the ass (not as a result of having a baby, no signs on the stomach), very skinny legs with no definition, I wanted to take her for a steak instead of feed her my own meat. She's nice enough but to be honest it was like having a latex doll. Let me do whatever I wanted but 100% passive. No passion, no interaction. May as well have just got the fleshlight out.
Would not recommend unless you basically want to fuck a mannequin.This is the escort dilemma. High risk. Clubmodel escorts pay a lot of money to announce on that site so I find them to be particularly mercenary as they have a large expenses to cover each week. I seldom meet any of them unless I receive a very good vibe during my extensive whatsapp chat. If they come on fast and heavy "when do you want to meet baby " its a bad sign. Even if they are sweet in the chat they may be different live. Honestly I only see escorts that agree to smoke some weed as I have found that to be best discriminator to eliminate the mercenaries.
This is the escort dilemma. High risk. Clubmodel escorts pay a lot of money to announce on that site so I find them to be particularly mercenary as they have a large expenses to cover each week. I seldom meet any of them unless I receive a very good vibe during my extensive whatsapp chat. If they come on fast and heavy "when do you want to meet baby " its a bad sign. Even if they are sweet in the chat they may be different live. Honestly I only see escorts that agree to smoke some weed as I have found that to be best discriminator to eliminate the mercenaries.I had good luck with my limited use of Rio Sex Site. That's how I hooked up with Elisa Sanches, who was a good fuck. Also one other who was really sweet. She bought me a small gift! Imagine a working girl meeting you for the first time doing that. We had chatted on WhatsApp for some time. I'm still not a big escort fan, preferring the clubs over escorts. But, I will dip my toe in the water once in a while when I discover a reliable site featuring the prettiest kind of tutes. I would have definitely tried Club Model had it been around and I knew about it. Sites like Club Model and Rio Sex Site are better in part because the girls do have to pay to announce their services. They have "skin in the game" so to speak, and need to earn on their investment. It helps keep out scammers and riff raff if one must pay to advertise.
This is the escort dilemma. High risk. Clubmodel escorts pay a lot of money to announce on that site so I find them to be particularly mercenary as they have a large expenses to cover each week. I seldom meet any of them unless I receive a very good vibe during my extensive whatsapp chat. If they come on fast and heavy "when do you want to meet baby " its a bad sign. Even if they are sweet in the chat they may be different live. Honestly I only see escorts that agree to smoke some weed as I have found that to be best discriminator to eliminate the mercenaries.Other than this point you just made, why don't I see more post on the twitter GPS with high visibility and some have lots of reviews on GP guia. For example at Isaloria. I know the internet can be hella tricky but most seem pretty cool, even a couple with lot of followers have responded to DM's, like tweets, respond to comments and all. Is it prices or have you or any other members had poor experience with bait in switch with Twitter GPS. I had a lot of success in Colombia with FB I plan on using twitter for my room service. Many of the high visibility Twitter gps Ive seen on clubmodel and splove as well so I been doing as much studying and flirting as I can on Twitter . Appreciate the feed back
When I'm back next month I'll check our Sarah Bunny and have a look at the other recommendations.
Never had a reply from Rebeca but also perhaps next month, though I will see Olivia again first.
Thanks again guys, really appreciate it.
Never had a reply from Rebeca but also perhaps next month, though I will see Olivia again first.It seems to be a strange time. Some Twitter scorts have been radio silent since March. Others are promoting their onlyfans site, etc. There's no way to be sure who is working unless you ask.
I had good luck with my limited use of Rio Sex Site. That's how I hooked up with Elisa Sanches, who was a good fuck. Also one other who was really sweet. She bought me a small gift! Imagine a working girl meeting you for the first time doing that. We had chatted on WhatsApp for some time. I'm still not a big escort fan, preferring the clubs over escorts. But, I will dip my toe in the water once in a while when I discover a reliable site featuring the prettiest kind of tutes. I would have definitely tried Club Model had it been around and I knew about it. Sites like Club Model and Rio Sex Site are better in part because the girls do have to pay to announce their services. They have "skin in the game" so to speak, and need to earn on their investment. It helps keep out scammers and riff raff if one must pay to advertise.I found club model girls to be all about volume that is why they advertise on there. I do not use sites anymore because the photos are highly airbrushed.
Member #4732
09-10-20, 01:15
I found club model girls to be all about volume that is why they advertise on there. I do not use sites anymore because the photos are highly airbrushed.Yes, I was saying that they "can be" more mercenary. There are several factors at work. As I mentioned they pay like 800 reais per week (I think) to advertise on that site and they need to recoup that before they profit. Plus they may be paying to rent a flat in Jardins or Moema, again more fixed costs. So they are under stress to make buck. And they probably spend more on clothes and plastic surgery in order to maintain their "elite" appearance. Also they are typically "veterans", possibly travelled, which naturally tends to add a "professional" hardness to anyone. I am not faulting them, its a natural trajectory. Also, I want to be clear, this does not apply to EVERYONE, there are exceptions, there are veterans that are amazingly genuine and sexually amazing. There are also some relative newbies on Clubmodel, not all are veterans. They are individuals, and I have had some great experiences, but I think I only did 2 from clubmodel in a year and they were great, but they were visually my number, and I had very long chats with them before pulling the trigger.
There are 2 aspects to this, relative to other Brazilians and relative to non-brazilian escorts. Relative to non-brazilian escorts even the worst, most mercenary brazilian will appear to an infrequent or first time foreign monger to be a dream come true, an amazing beauty, perhaps the best sex of your life. I often say my worst braziian experiences are better than most men's best experiences in the USA. But relative to other brazilians, its a different story, and the "criticism" above is really just in terms of relative to other brazilian P4 P situations. The discussions on this board usually have two audiences, the first time visitors and the repeat visitors. I don't want to trash the first time visitors for going after the eye candy and the veteran escorts that speak english. Go for it, it will hopefully be great. On the other hand, the repeat visitors want to know the trade offs, know the pros and cons of each option, escorts, clinicas, boates, tinder, etc.
As for the airbrushing, yeah, they are very photoshopped, or as the locals like to say 'fodashopped", and they may be years old. Again, its a weird "status" thing, they girls think that a professional photo shoot and silicone signify higher "status", and will attract wealthier clients, and maybe they are right, I don't know, maybe that stuff works on visiting businessmen. But discerning clients are not fooled and local guys more and more demand simple cell phone photos.
Member #4732
09-10-20, 01:19
Other than this point you just made, why don't I see more post on the twitter GPS with high visibility and some have lots of reviews on GP guia. For example at Isaloria. I know the internet can be hella tricky but most seem pretty cool, even a couple with lot of followers have responded to DM's, like tweets, respond to comments and all. Is it prices or have you or any other members had poor experience with bait in switch with Twitter GPS. I had a lot of success in Colombia with FB I plan on using twitter for my room service. Many of the high visibility Twitter gps Ive seen on clubmodel and splove as well so I been doing as much studying and flirting as I can on Twitter . Appreciate the feed backIn general, gp-guia is strongest in the clinica reviews and weakest in the boate and escort reviews. This is all about incentive. The reviewers are incentivized to write reviews for clinicas in order to get discounts, and this does not mean the reviews have to be positive. There is no incentive to write a review of an escort. Also the local hard core mongers are the heavy contributors and these guys overwhelmingly consider the clinicas to be the best cost benefit option.
I found club model girls to be all about volume that is why they advertise on there. I do not use sites anymore because the photos are highly airbrushed.Well with respect to Rio Sex Site, I will say you're missing out then because what I saw was exactly what I got. So Rio Sex Site gets The Cane's stamp of approval! Can't say the same about the other one since I haven't used it.
Yes, I was saying that they "can be" more mercenary. There are several factors at work. As I mentioned they pay like 800 reais per week (I think) to advertise on that site and they need to recoup that before they profit. Plus they may be paying to rent a flat in Jardins or Moema, again more fixed costs. So they are under stress to make buck. And they probably spend more on clothes and plastic surgery in order to maintain their "elite" appearance. Also they are typically "veterans", possibly travelled, which naturally tends to add a "professional" hardness to anyone. I am not faulting them, its a natural trajectory. Also, I want to be clear, this does not apply to EVERYONE, there are exceptions, there are veterans that are amazingly genuine and sexually amazing. There are also some relative newbies on Clubmodel, not all are veterans. They are individuals, and I have had some great experiences, but I think I only did 2 from clubmodel in a year and they were great, but they were visually my number, and I had very long chats with them before pulling the trigger.
There are 2 aspects to this, relative to other Brazilians and relative to non-brazilian escorts. Relative to non-brazilian escorts even the worst, most mercenary brazilian will appear to an infrequent or first time foreign monger to be a dream come true, an amazing beauty, perhaps the best sex of your life. I often say my worst braziian experiences are better than most men's best experiences in the USA. But relative to other brazilians, its a different story, and the "criticism" above is really just in terms of relative to other brazilian P4 P situations. The discussions on this board usually have two audiences, the first time visitors and the repeat visitors. I don't want to trash the first time visitors for going after the eye candy and the veteran escorts that speak english. Go for it, it will hopefully be great. On the other hand, the repeat visitors want to know the trade offs, know the pros and cons of each option, escorts, clinicas, boates, tinder, etc.
As for the airbrushing, yeah, they are very photoshopped, or as the locals like to say 'fodashopped", and they may be years old. Again, its a weird "status" thing, they girls think that a professional photo shoot and silicone signify higher "status", and will attract wealthier clients, and maybe they are right, I don't know, maybe that stuff works on visiting businessmen. But discerning clients are not fooled and local guys more and more demand simple cell phone photos.We appreciate your insight my guy! You one of the most experienced and you got boots on the ground. I'll take a roll dice see how it's goes. If it's not what I thought it will be CLínicas and boates.
The Critic
09-10-20, 05:33
I have found that if you put in the work you will find most girls on escort sites have some sort of social media sites where they post pictures or short video clips. So, you can compare their "photoshopped" escort site images against their social media images which are closer to the real deal.
Some will even send you cell phone images (via WhatsApp) if you ask "to validate their look" (they will probably want pictures of you as well maybe to determine if they want to be with you as well).
I would never join their OnlyFans site to validate the look. You don't have time to waste be direct and ask them if their available I have found that they will be direct as well with a yes or no, not available due to travel, not in area, work certain days, retired etc. Only thing is that some do not want to spend too much time on WhatsApp chatting because so many inquire but never follow through with a TD. Remember they are only one, potential clients are many, they cannot be on the phone or emailing fielding inquires all the time. So, I do not initiate contact unless I am at least 90% sure I would follow-through with an encounter. The 10% is for them to validate what I already know visually and come to terms.
Now the Twitter / IG / FB only escorts generally post WhatsApp number on the page so generally they are legit it just may be a problem coming to terms especially when you're not currently in country. Once in country scheduling may take some time which overall may throw off your schedule on any given day especially if they are popular and in demand. Overall, I have had no problem with escorts via escort sites or social media sites.
I have found that if you put in the work you will find most girls on escort sites have some sort of social media sites where they post pictures or short video clips. So, you can compare their "photoshopped" escort site images against their social media images which are closer to the real deal.
Some will even send you cell phone images (via WhatsApp) if you ask "to validate their look" (they will probably want pictures of you as well maybe to determine if they want to be with you as well).
I would never join their OnlyFans site to validate the look. You don't have time to waste be direct and ask them if their available I have found that they will be direct as well with a yes or no, not available due to travel, not in area, work certain days, retired etc. Only thing is that some do not want to spend too much time on WhatsApp chatting because so many inquire but never follow through with a TD. Remember they are only one, potential clients are many, they cannot be on the phone or emailing fielding inquires all the time. So, I do not initiate contact unless I am at least 90% sure I would follow-through with an encounter. The 10% is for them to validate what I already know visually and come to terms.
Now the Twitter / IG / FB only escorts generally post WhatsApp number on the page so generally they are legit it just may be a problem coming to terms especially when you're not currently in country. Once in country scheduling may take some time which overall may throw off your schedule on any given day especially if they are popular and in demand. Overall, I have had no problem with escorts via escort sites or social media sites.I don't use websites because I rather just go to a boate or clinica and see what they look like in person. In the US, there isn't boates or clinicas to see the lineup so I pretty much have not seen any providers that are on websites. And at least in person I can interview them to see if it will be what I'm looking for.
Yes, I was saying that they "can be" more mercenary. There are several factors at work. As I mentioned they pay like 800 reais per week (I think) to advertise on that site and they need to recoup that before they profit. Plus they may be paying to rent a flat in Jardins or Moema, again more fixed costs. So they are under stress to make buck. And they probably spend more on clothes and plastic surgery in order to maintain their "elite" appearance. Also they are typically "veterans", possibly travelled, which naturally tends to add a "professional" hardness to anyone. I am not faulting them, its a natural trajectory. Also, I want to be clear, this does not apply to EVERYONE, there are exceptions, there are veterans that are amazingly genuine and sexually amazing. There are also some relative newbies on Clubmodel, not all are veterans. They are individuals, and I have had some great experiences, but I think I only did 2 from clubmodel in a year and they were great, but they were visually my number, and I had very long chats with them before pulling the trigger.I'm not an expert on "acompanhanomics" but this all makes sense. There is a lot of turnover in the clubmodel adverts. As you say, there is a high cost to a weekly ad.
Too many of the "newer" clubmodel escorts seem to have negative or neutral reviews. If it doesn't add up, there is always someone else with good buzz. Personally, I rather be with a 27 year old Brazilian escort that is a superstar then trying to take my chances on a relatively unknown 20 year old. Of course, this is much a matter of limited time in the city as well. I would rather go to the boates to hunt for a young hotty.
Yes, finally some positive feedback. Would you mind sharing what insurance company you used?
Maybe pull the trigger in October but hoping some clubs open like Bomboa and Scandallo so I can get the full experience.You can try imgglobal.com.
I bought it thru my agent with who we purchase our medical coverage from for the USA.
How locked down was the city? Do you know if any of the bars / clubs / restaurants even open at all? I have a trip booked for Nov. That was suppose to be for the F1 race that got cancelled. Now I am not sure if it is worth the flight.It isn't too locked down and it was opening up while I was there. I am sure it has opened up even more. Restaurants are open with the new requirements. I didn't go to bars or clubs since I am not into that type of thing. If Scandello was open, I might have considered it.
I was pressed with the universal mask donning by the citizens. That makes it better to get out and about and try to get back to a sense of normalcy.
TreeTopFlyr
09-14-20, 14:22
Friday evening I went to Shopping Ibirapuera to buy a Brazil sim card (Vivo shop 3rd floor above street level. They did install, cheap, reloadable and works well especially data) for the throw-away I use while traveling. Afterwards I was walking in Moema checking out some of the flagged club locations from the Sao Paulo monger map (https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU&ll=-23.612216187763146%2C-46.663922096575874&z=16) and went into the Bahamas Club. Entry was a selection of 3 levels that offered a variety of options. I chose the 251 R option which was entry and 150 consumable. This was about 7:30 pm. There were 5 ladies lounging and chatting, none was of interest. I was served a beer from the drink menu (35 R for Amstel) by one of the all male wait staff who noted the number on my wrist band.
Several of the girls cruised by and said Hello. I thanked them in porto from my Google translator, noting how nice they looked, but not now. I'm one of two customers, and the lionesses were on the prowl and hungry. After an hour, I met a new arrival who introed herself in Porto, and when I said Hello, she responded in perfect English. We talked on the outside deck for more than an hour. She used gMaps on my phone to identify 4 restaurants that she said are some of the best in Sao and Rio. Didn't session, bought 1 drink and tipped her 100 R for her time. Pretty sure she expected more. On leaving, I was presented with a 305 R bill at reception. I asked to see the charges, and the cashier got huffy. Of course this is correct. She showed me and the items were correct, but mystery the amount didn't tally. Manager of the girls looked it over, and I was presented with a 62.30 R bill. I think getting drunk in one of these places would be a real bad idea.
DiverOyster
09-15-20, 04:13
Friday evening I went to Shopping Ibirapuera to buy a Brazil sim card (Vivo shop 3rd floor above street level. They did install, cheap, reloadable and works well especially data) for the throw-away I use while traveling. Afterwards I was walking in Moema checking out some of the flagged club locations from the Sao Paulo monger map (https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU&ll=-23.612216187763146%2C-46.663922096575874&z=16) and went into the Bahamas Club. Entry was a selection of 3 levels that offered a variety of options. I chose the 251 R option which was entry and 150 consumable. This was about 7:30 pm. There were 5 ladies lounging and chatting, none was of interest. I was served a beer from the drink menu (35 R for Amstel) by one of the all male wait staff who noted the number on my wrist band.
Several of the girls cruised by and said Hello. I thanked them in porto from my Google translator, noting how nice they looked, but not now. I'm one of two customers, and the lionesses were on the prowl and hungry. After an hour, I met a new arrival who introed herself in Porto, and when I said Hello, she responded in perfect English. We talked on the outside deck for more than an hour. She used gMaps on my phone to identify 4 restaurants that she said are some of the best in Sao and Rio. Didn't session, bought 1 drink and tipped her 100 R for her time. Pretty sure she expected more. On leaving, I was presented with a 305 R bill at reception. I asked to see the charges, and the cashier got huffy. Of course this is correct. She showed me and the items were correct, but mystery the amount didn't tally. Manager of the girls looked it over, and I was presented with a 62.30 R bill. I think getting drunk in one of these places would be a real bad idea.Scandallo is already open. You may want to check out this club. This is the best club in Sao Paulo. There has been no report on this club since its reopening on September 2020.
........... On leaving, I was presented with a 305 R bill at reception. I asked to see the charges, and the cashier got huffy. Of course this is correct. She showed me and the items were correct, but mystery the amount didn't tally. Manager of the girls looked it over, and I was presented with a 62.30 R bill. .........That was the gringo charge.
TreeTopFlyr
09-15-20, 17:35
That was the gringo charge.LOL How could they have possibly known.
Been a while since last report.
Arrived in SP by car on Friday the 4th w a friend, rested well for a big day on Saturday.
Scandallo opened on wed that week and got that info from a girl whom also told me about the limited working hours. It was supposed to be from 12-10 pm but after a few days of this, they changed it to the regular hours which is 12 pm-5 am.
I could see why on Saturday because when we got there around 430 pm thinking they closed at 10 pm there were very very few patrons.
There were about 10 guys at that time and it never went over 20-25 guys in there but there was a good selection of about 50-70 girls. Would rate that night a 6. 5 out of 10 (10 being a Thursday night during formula one week a couple of years ago with over 500 girls).
Since the main room can't be used they renovated the restaurant area and it's double its previous size with a beautiful bar. The smaller outdoor area to the right is used as the main spot and later when there are more people they open the bigger open space in the back.
Left around 11 Pm satisfied.
Went back on Tuesday around 730 pm and they were charging 300 at the door with 150 to consume unlike Saturday where it was 150 all consumable. Already knew it was going to be better. Upon entry we were greeted by 100+ girls, maybe going to 130 during peak hours around 11 pm to maybe about 30-40 guys tops. Stayed till 4 am this night. Would rate 7. 5 this night and the girls were asking around 600-1000 all giving 200-300 in discounts. I'm guessing with this kind of ratio the uglier ones would go as low as 300 but I don't really talk to the uglier ones so can't confirm.
The last visit was on Saturday again that was much better than the first Saturday. Around 100 girls at 7 pm to 20-25 guys. Rating being a 7-7. 5.
Still the best place in SP imo if you have the pocket for it. Entrance was 300 with 150 in credit the second Saturday and the rooms are 230 per hour and they charge proportionally the time you go over. They don't warn you after 1 HR is up like they used to. Girl take out fee is 250 and if they didn't complete their required time at that point I think they pay a small fee also.
Beer is 40 reais, whisky or vodka is at about 70 and red bull I believe is 55. Decent food.
DreamCarnarvon
09-16-20, 06:50
Still the best place in SP imo if you have the pocket for it. Entrance was 300 with 150 in credit the second Saturday and the rooms are 230 per hour and they charge proportionally the time you go over. They don't warn you after 1 HR is up like they used to. Girl take out fee is 250 and if they didn't complete their required time at that point I think they pay a small fee also.
Beer is 40 reais, whisky or vodka is at about 70 and red bull I believe is 55. Decent food.Good intel. Seems like the number of girls is gradually getting back to pre-covid level. Looks like the entrance fee has been increased to 300. But the girls are more willing to give heavy discounts. Couple that with the weak Real, this might be the best time to visit scandello and pull some girls at a bargain price (well as far as scandello goes). Me personally, I wouldn't session on site though. 230 for their room is such a rip off. That's the price of an hour session at the clinicas in Moema. And there is definitely no need to pay for the take out fee! What I would do, is to go on a busy weekday night and get as many numbers as possible from girls who are willing to see me outside for R300-R400, which is the rate of some twitter girls in Moema & Jardin charge. With the current economic situation, I think there would be many girls who will be willing. The biggest obstacle is being able to get a hold of them on whatsapp and having them respond in a timely manner. If someone is only in SP for a week or two, then sessioning on site might be the better and only option.
Member #4698
09-16-20, 14:38
Great report PDawg. I have just one question for the Brazil forum; I apologize ahead of time if I post it in the wrong thread. Here it is: Is Brazil open? IE Can Americans (Floridians. Ha ha) presently fly in tp SP without quarantine?
I am a SE Asian punter, but SE Asia is closed. It's been more than 15 years since I was last in SP, but I would head down to SP in heart beat if I could enter unencumbered so to speak.
Been a while since last report.
Arrived in SP by car on Friday the 4th w a friend, rested well for a big day on Saturday.
Scandallo opened on wed that week and got that info from a girl whom also told me about the limited working hours. It was supposed to be from 12-10 pm but after a few days of this, they changed it to the regular hours which is 12 pm-5 am.
I could see why on Saturday because when we got there around 430 pm thinking they closed at 10 pm there were very very few patrons.
There were about 10 guys at that time and it never went over 20-25 guys in there but there was a good selection of about 50-70 girls. Would rate that night a 6. 5 out of 10 (10 being a Thursday night during formula one week a couple of years ago with over 500 girls).
Since the main room can't be used they renovated the restaurant area and it's double its previous size with a beautiful bar. The smaller outdoor area to the right is used as the main spot and later when there are more people they open the bigger open space in the back.
Left around 11 Pm satisfied.Thank you for this report; could you describe a little bit how was the setting related to COVID precautions? I. E. Wearing masks inside? Interaction with the girls?
Member #4732
09-16-20, 15:40
Been a while since last report.
Went back on Tuesday around 730 pm and they were charging 300 at the door with 150 to consume unlike Saturday where it was 150 all consumable. .The difference in entrance price does not have to do with the day of the week. Every day its 150, all toward consumption before 7 pm, and 350 (I think 350 now) after 7 pm with 150 of that toward consumption. The only exceptions are special event days when they do not offer the before 7 pm discount.
Also, unless things have changed in that last week, the club is open until 5 am but they close the doors to new arrivals at 10 pm to comply with city regulations. That is probably a temporary restriction, subject to change at any time.
Jimmy Boy 99
09-16-20, 19:48
Great report PDawg. I have just one question for the Brazil forum; I apologize ahead of time if I post it in the wrong thread. Here it is: Is Brazil open? IE Can Americans (Floridians. Ha ha) presently fly in tp SP without quarantine?
I am a SE Asian punter, but SE Asia is closed. It's been more than 15 years since I was last in SP, but I would head down to SP in heart beat if I could enter unencumbered so to speak.Yes. No quarantine, only insurance required.
http://miami.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/entry_of_foreigners_in_brazil.xml
Member #4698
09-16-20, 20:46
Yes. No quarantine, only insurance required.
http://miami.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/entry_of_foreigners_in_brazil.xmlThanks Jimmy. Brazil is my kinda of country. (LOL).
Great report PDawg. I have just one question for the Brazil forum; I apologize ahead of time if I post it in the wrong thread. Here it is: Is Brazil open? IE Can Americans (Floridians. Ha ha) presently fly in tp SP without quarantine?
I am a SE Asian punter, but SE Asia is closed. It's been more than 15 years since I was last in SP, but I would head down to SP in heart beat if I could enter unencumbered so to speak.I live here and I'm pretty sure that Brazil is not barring entry from any country. Some of the land borders are closed because of reciprocity I believe. Google to make sure.
Thank you for this report; could you describe a little bit how was the setting related to COVID precautions? I. E. Wearing masks inside? Interaction with the girls?Out of the 3 visits I only saw one guy wearing a mask the whole time and also one girl that was wearing a mask which was funny. No one else wears it once inside. You do need one to get thru the doors and they also check your temperature.
I live here and I'm pretty sure that Brazil is not barring entry from any country. Some of the land borders are closed because of reciprocity I believe. Google to make sure.You can find entry / quarantine requirements for countries all over the world here: https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php.
I live here and I'm pretty sure that Brazil is not barring entry from any country. Some of the land borders are closed because of reciprocity I believe. Google to make sure.Getting through Brazil immigration and customs has always been the easiest for me of all countries to which I have traveled so I'm not surprised that they are so welcoming at this time.
Went last night, had about 200 girls inside mostly from the past not many new faces which was disappointing. Prices all the same as before and place was packed so no need to have promos like places in Rio mentioned on the forum. The music dance area is closed but the restaurant is now much bigger with a bar. No one wears masks except for the staff. The girls are asking for the same price as they did before which I understand they need money after not working for a while. I just try to negotiate for more time inside or outside.
Many girls had the virus already so they do not care about getting it again because they have to work. There were at least 300 guys there so it is definitely a super spreader place. Brasil is still averaging 36,000 new cases with 1000 deaths a day but life goes on here now. Half the people on the street either do wear masks or have it half way hanging down which makes it useless. Yesterday SP had 7,000 new cases. Getting tested seem to be difficult if you don't have symptoms to get it for free or have health insurance. And insurance is not paying for antibody testing so people just have to hope they do not get it again. Will be there the whole week if anyone wants to meet up.
DreamCarnarvon
09-18-20, 06:59
Many girls had the virus already so they do not care about getting it again because they have to work.Good intel Hobbying. One question about what you said above. Is that your guess or you know that for a fact. I don't know how they would know they have had the virus unless they develop symptoms and go for a test. There is a SP escort girl I follow on twitter and she twitted last week that she went and got tested for covid because she had all the symptoms, coughing with phlegm, body ache and difficulty breathing. The test came back the next day and she tested positive. She's been inactive since.
CarpeDiem305
09-19-20, 20:40
I'll be in Sao Paolo the 19th-24 of December. Do you think hotels or airbnbs are a better deal? Also is Rio worth checking out? My flight back home is on the 29th.
Gringo Trooper
09-22-20, 03:27
I'll be in Sao Paolo the 19th-24 of December. Do you think hotels or airbnbs are a better deal? Also is Rio worth checking out? My flight back home is on the 29th.Yes, Rio is amazing if you have the time to check it out. I only have stayed in hotels throughout Brazil (never tried airbnb). I usually just went with whatever hotel cost about 50 bucks (they were typically subpar).
That was a few years ago. And since then the Real has weakened. However, I noticed the nicer hotels in SP are expensive AF.
Might be a horrible idea but trying pull the trigger on trip to Sao Paulo within next few days.
For someone who is in Sao Paulo now, is tangara or abbbora open?
Read reports earlier that they are open but wanted to confirm.
And, is vila olmpia good area to stay? Trying to find place to stay in moema but didn't find anything that I like.
Assume casaro, bomboa, cafe Photo are all closed so scandallo is only option for night time club action.
The plan is to visit clnicas during the day and just order girls from clubmodel / private55 sites or hit scandallo at nights.
Let me know if you have any feedbacks.
Good intel Hobbying. One question about what you said above. Is that your guess or you know that for a fact. I don't know how they would know they have had the virus unless they develop symptoms and go for a test. There is a SP escort girl I follow on twitter and she twitted last week that she went and got tested for covid because she had all the symptoms, coughing with phlegm, body ache and difficulty breathing. The test came back the next day and she tested positive. She's been inactive since.Every girl I talked to said they had symptoms, some got tested others did not. Some got it back in Jan / Feb before the club was closed so who knows where they got it from. Most told me they had mild symptoms so they are not scared to get it again. The chances of someone getting it again is higher when they had mild symptoms the first time because their antibody levels drops off faster.
Some guys said they never had symptoms but they didn't care since they were there to mingle.
Good time to meet up new to the business girls that have yet to hardened up, I avoid the ones that tell you they have worked in Europe or speak fluent English, those are serious pros. But I did meet some super nice girls.
Someone told to me a mother and daughter were there working there one night, thought that was super weird but may be some guys are into that as portrayed in porno.
So, Due back in SP on Oct 6 for a couple of days, have arranged to meet Olivia again. However today I find myself unexpectedly back in SP. So, as suggested, I arranged a meeting with https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sp/sara-bunny Sara Bunny.
Down to earth and no BS whatsapp chat and a time was set.
Sounds fun, am looking forward to it. Check out her Twitter. Same girl but shorter hair and paler than on Cmodel. Cool.
Long story short. She shows up 80 minutes late, despite having spoken hours in advance and assured me she'd be on time. I fucking cannot abide lateness, I'm sorry but I can't. Ten minutes or so for traffic is fine but 'I'm shopping, be there soon' ten minutes before our meeting from the other side of town is just fucking rude. My time, and hers also I am sure, is worth more.
Anyway. I get on with some shit I need to do online and try not to be pissed off. Just as I am about 30 seconds from saying, don't bother, I'm going to go jerk off, my hand is fucking punctual, she shows up. Skintight black dress and fuck me heels, with a goodie bag with new lingerie that still has the tags on it.
Oh well, I'm still annoyed but at least she wasnt sitting on her ass eating a mcD's and browsing facebook (maybe she was but she hid it well).
So. From there it just got real good real fast. She's a proper pale skinned redhead. Slightly mad, lots of fun and very passionate. Crazy eyes. If you have ever played Hellblade, Senua's Sacrifice, then welcome to hell. You are about to fuck Senua in all her mad eyed crazy shit glory.
Wanted it in the ass and not the pussy, fine with me although in the end I wanted that sweet front door and she let me (turns out from a later conversation that she came off her period yesterday and was worried about blood on the sheets. I was like, fuck, this is SP, blood on the walls and they won't say shit) have a go in there after giving her coal bunker a thorough cleaning out in various positions. She has a proper tiny tight spinner ass. Mmm.
So to sum up, if she hadn't been so fucking late it'd be a sound 10/10 must do, but fuck, I've been around enough to have decided that there are precious few women that are worth putting up with such a late showing for.
I will repeat as it was a lot of fun but it'll be clear that I'm not going to sit about with my cock in my hands (not literally) for an hour or so while she goes shopping. Actually maybe literally, depends.
If you like them petite, sweet and passionate, and don't give a fuck when they turn up, she's your girl. Once she's in the door its a good ride, but it's like joining the line at Universal Studios. You don't know when you'll get in, but you know you will and it'll be fun when you do, but maybe, just maybe, it's more fun to stay home, eat chips and play the playstation all day while watching porn. At least you can cum on YOUR schedule then.
Win some, lose some.
I am aware of and don't mind, at times, the dice roll of trying girls from webpages that don't have reviews. Usually, the sms / whatsapp / line conversation is a good way of weeding out more or less the shit ones from the half decent, or good ones.
So today, as happens at times, I drew a blank on the second shot of the day. Shame because my balls were like two tins of condensed milk by the time she showed up (on fucking time at least).
https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/summer-kiss/
So, Looks exactly like the photos. About 1. 7 m tall. Lovely firm round tits, a bit bigger than the photos. See cup for sure. Very pretty in a European way. Curvy ass and long legs.
Agreed in advance what we are going to do and the price.
Cool, methinks. This is either going to be awesome or a complete bust.
Turns out it was about half of both.
Shows up, Immediately doesn't want to do x and why that we agreed very clearly before. I say, that's ok, I'll pay for your cab, sucks but hey, don't want you to feel pressured or do something you don't want to do (I know, I know, I was feeling nice. Normally I'd be like fuck this shit we made a deal, now get down and start sucking. In a totally respectful way of course).
She says. Thanks, lets just relax and have some fun and put on some music. My Brain says this deal kinda sucks but she is hot so to be fair, it's late, I'm tired and I want to fuck a hot chick like NOW. I say OK but I am pretty bummed out. She says some other shit. I'm not listening anymore. Have decided to roll with it and am now just in 'going to fuck' mode. Says some more stuff as she gets undressed. Looks hot naked. Awesome ass. Lies down on bed and asks me to massage her. I think, ok fuck it. I get naked and straddle her. Thoroughly enjoy 15 minutes with a raging boner massaging her back and ass. She does some very good hip gyrating ass wiggling which if she wasn't a pro would have ended in some sticky skin on skin action, then some flipping and a very good sloppy as a sloppy thing blowjob ensues.
To be fair the sex is good and she is enthusiastic, energetic and does a good show of bringing herself off.
I'm not ready to spray those nice firm natural tits just yet, so off comes the hat and some more sloppy BJ ensues and that's when it all unwinds. We've been in the room for 50 minutes of an agreed 90 and now its 'I have to go in 5 minutes to meet my friends bla bla'. Thats fine I say, I won't come in your hair, the blonde highlights are really sexy and it'll only take you 5 minutes to redo the mascara which is running down your cheeks from having a good go at deepthroating.
Will you cum soon, she says? Um yeah, I say, at the 89th minute basically unless you pull out some amazing trick or stick a finger up my ass and start fishing for gold.
But I have to go soon she says. My boner starts to die and my patience along with it.
Ok I say, never mind, go shower and just go, this is BS, we have 25 minutes left. Yeah but I have to get ready she says. I get up, pick up my phone and sit on the sofa to read my book (kindle app ftw).
She says 'Can I be honest, You know what, I feel scared right now'. I say, I'm sorry, I am disappointed but I don't think I have done anything to scare you whatsoever. In fact, given that you changed the deal then cut short the time, I'd be within my right to be angry because if I went to Mercedes and ordered a new S class in Matte Black, paid for it and received an A class in hooker Red, I would be pissed as fuck and they would know all about it.
She showered, Got dressed and had the decency to look ashamed and give me a peck on the cheek and an I'm sorry as she left. I read my book (fucking good book BTW. The Seeker series by SG McLean) and logged on here to write.
Shit happens. Was it worth the money? No, not given the prices in SP and what we had agreed vis a vis what we did. However, was it enjoyable while it lasted. ? Yes, she is hot and has a great body and I genuinely did enjoy a good 40 minutes action. However, given that I'm about to go watch some poor eastern european spinner get railed and pissed on by 4 dudes and rub one out, it wasn't what I would call Mission Accomplished.
So, Due back in SP on Oct 6 for a couple of days, have arranged to meet Olivia again. However today I find myself unexpectedly back in SP. So, as suggested, I arranged a meeting with https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sp/sara-bunny Sara Bunny.
Down to earth and no BS whatsapp chat and a time was set.
Sounds fun, am looking forward to it. Check out her Twitter. Same girl but shorter hair and paler than on Cmodel. Cool.
Long story short. She shows up 80 minutes late, despite having spoken hours in advance and assured me she'd be on time. I fucking cannot abide lateness, I'm sorry but I can't. Ten minutes or so for traffic is fine but 'I'm shopping, be there soon' ten minutes before our meeting from the other side of town is just fucking rude. My time, and hers also I am sure, is worth more.
Anyway. I get on with some shit I need to do online and try not to be pissed off. Just as I am about 30 seconds from saying, don't bother, I'm going to go jerk off, my hand is fucking punctual, she shows up. Skintight black dress and fuck me heels, with a goodie bag with new lingerie that still has the tags on it.
Oh well, I'm still annoyed but at least she wasnt sitting on her ass eating a mcD's and browsing facebook (maybe she was but she hid it well).
So. From there it just got real good real fast. She's a proper pale skinned redhead. Slightly mad, lots of fun and very passionate. Crazy eyes. If you have ever played Hellblade, Senua's Sacrifice, then welcome to hell. You are about to fuck Senua in all her mad eyed crazy shit glory.
Wanted it in the ass and not the pussy, fine with me although in the end I wanted that sweet front door and she let me (turns out from a later conversation that she came off her period yesterday and was worried about blood on the sheets. I was like, fuck, this is SP, blood on the walls and they won't say shit) have a go in there after giving her coal bunker a thorough cleaning out in various positions. She has a proper tiny tight spinner ass. Mmm.
So to sum up, if she hadn't been so fucking late it'd be a sound 10/10 must do, but fuck, I've been around enough to have decided that there are precious few women that are worth putting up with such a late showing for.
I will repeat as it was a lot of fun but it'll be clear that I'm not going to sit about with my cock in my hands (not literally) for an hour or so while she goes shopping. Actually maybe literally, depends.
If you like them petite, sweet and passionate, and don't give a fuck when they turn up, she's your girl. Once she's in the door its a good ride, but it's like joining the line at Universal Studios. You don't know when you'll get in, but you know you will and it'll be fun when you do, but maybe, just maybe, it's more fun to stay home, eat chips and play the playstation all day while watching porn. At least you can cum on YOUR schedule then.What each of them ask for as far as donation I see most and SP love or Twitter ask R400.
Long story short. She shows up 80 minutes late, despite having spoken hours in advance and assured me she'd be on time. I fucking cannot abide lateness, I'm sorry but I can't. Ten minutes or so for traffic is fine but 'I'm shopping, be there soon' ten minutes before our meeting from the other side of town is just fucking rude. My time, and hers also I am sure, is worth more.
................
So to sum up, if she hadn't been so fucking late it'd be a sound 10/10 must do, but fuck, I've been around enough to have decided that there are precious few women that are worth putting up with such a late showing for.Glad she's worth a repeat.
I don't think you have been on the Brazil thread very long. Brazilians are known for tardiness. Not 15-20 min.....a long time. You are also dealing with young women not female business executives There are countless stories of guys waiting for Brazilian girls and wanting to just give up waiting. One guy was waiting at a love motel. Who wants to sit around a fuckin' love hotel waiting with their dick in their hand.
Anyway, that maybe another reason for the boates Scandallo, Casarao, etc. The girls are already there. You just have to put in some time upfront, but shopping for a girl in a club is enjoyable.
Steve 9696
09-23-20, 16:29
Glad she's worth a repeat.
I don't think you have been on the Brazil thread very long. Brazilians are known for tardiness. Not 15-20 min.....a long time. You are also dealing with young women not female business executives There are countless stories of guys waiting for Brazilian girls and wanting to just give up waiting. One guy was waiting at a love motel. Who wants to sit around a fuckin' love hotel waiting with their dick in their hand.
Anyway, that maybe another reason for the boates Scandallo, Casarao, etc. The girls are already there. You just have to put in some time upfront, but shopping for a girl in a club is enjoyable.Agree with Wyatt. This is a cultural thing — not that girl disrespecting you. If a Brasileira is an hour late that's considered on time. Seriously. It's not the same as US. Had this first happen with Carolina. We agreed to meet at this bar. I waited like 20 minutes and they were closing. I had to wait outside. She was always "on her way". Finally an hour later she showed. I was a bit pissed but in the end totally worth the wait.
Same thing with Thifany in London if you read that story. Not at our room at agreed time. Lots of back and forth. Oh I'm getting an Uber etc. Finally there 90 minutes later. At this point I would normally be pissed. But I realized it's cultural. And sure enough she's just her happy bubbly self. No apology. Because you know what? In her head she's on time!
Anyhow some guys may "put their foot down" but for me Brasileiras are completely worth this idiosyncrasy for all the other great attributes they bring. And seriously it's a cultural thing — so don't judge too harshly.
Horn Dog Too
09-23-20, 17:32
Bom gia fellow mongers. Its been over four years since I was in Sao Paulo, (forced retirement). I just read back a dozen pages looking for ABG. Any info appreciated. Thanks. Cheers HD2.
SoberHans69
09-23-20, 17:46
Bom gia fellow mongers. Its been over four years since I was in Sao Paulo, (forced retirement). I just read back a dozen pages looking for ABG. Any info appreciated. Thanks. Cheers HD2.Someone posted he had sadly passed away, RIP.
Steve 9696
09-23-20, 18:12
Bom gia fellow mongers. Its been over four years since I was in Sao Paulo, (forced retirement). I just read back a dozen pages looking for ABG. Any info appreciated. Thanks. Cheers HD2.Passed away perhaps a year back.
Horn Dog Too
09-24-20, 22:23
Passed away perhaps a year back.Thank you. That breaks my heart. A big guy, huge voice and even bigger personality and heart to match. RIP.
Re the cost, Sara bunny asked for 80 us dollars total, I gave her a tip because she was really fun and did some weird shit I wanted to do.
Summer at first said 4 hour session, 500 dollars. I think she realised I don't smoke crack and quickly backpedalled. I didn't want 4 hours or to spend 500 bucks. Ended up at 120 which was one of the sticking points when she started to change shit.
Yeah I don't have a lot of experience in Brazil other than a few visits a couple years ago and most of that time I spent at tanagara but I understand the cultural thing from having lived in various Mediterranean countries. Still, if I'm paying for your time and I tell you explicitly that being late is not cool, don't be fucking late. Still, she did go home with a red ass after I spanked the shit out of her (her request, she told me she was a naughty brat and would need correction).
............ she did go home with a red ass after I spanked the shit out of her (her request, she told me she was a naughty brat and would need correction).So very few girls request to be spanked. Some years ago a girl asked me to spank her while in doggie I did so and no matter how hard I hit her she would shout "harder". I dare anyone to not nut in such circumstances.
Exec Talent
09-26-20, 15:10
Looking on a site like.
https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/
Leads one to believe most of the girls have augmented breasts. Have not be to SP in awhile, is that true?
So very few girls request to be spanked. Some years ago a girl asked me to spank her while in doggie I did so and no matter how hard I hit her she would shout "harder". I dare anyone to not nut in such circumstances.That is unbelievably hot. I know many suggest simply going to clinicas in SP because of the potential for catfishes and lackluster service that can come from escorts, but would a clinica woman be up for spanking and fetish stuff like this? I really enjoy submissive women and I figure it'the be easier to ask that from an escort than asking at a clinica. Is this incorrect to assume?
Wow, very sad to hear that the notorious ABG also passed away. Good man and yes with a heart of gold. Sad times indeed.
Passed away perhaps a year back.
Guys,
Has anyone traveled to Brazil by air since the ban lifted few days back? I read there are some very specific proof of insurance requirements for foreigners and that the document must state the person is covered in Brazil for up to 30,000 reals. I don't think it is that simple to obtain such a letter from my government! If anyone has traveled in last few days and dealt with this situation, please share your experience. I am itching to travel to Brazil after a long wait of 2 years.
Thanks.
Frankfurt.
That is unbelievably hot. I know many suggest simply going to clinicas in SP because of the potential for catfishes and lackluster service that can come from escorts, but would a clinica woman be up for spanking and fetish stuff like this? I really enjoy submissive women and I figure it'the be easier to ask that from an escort than asking at a clinica. Is this incorrect to assume?Actually, the girl I referred to was a US escort. I have done only clinica garotas in Sao Paulo so I can't speak for escorts. The clinica girls would tolerate moderate spanking but I have come across none who asked for it really hard. In terms of coitus I have noticed that girls in their mid to late twenties are much more sexually enthusiastic than those in their late teens early twenties.
Steve 9696
09-27-20, 15:23
Looking on a site like.
https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/
Leads one to believe most of the girls have augmented breasts. Have not be to SP in awhile, is that true?Haha. That's just who's on that site. At the club you can judge for yourself. I had 8 girls last summer and only one had bolt ONS. Plenty of natural talent to be had.
Has Bomboa opened up again? Any updated news about Bomboa from anybody on the ground in the know? Thanks in advance!
That is unbelievably hot. I know many suggest simply going to clinicas in SP because of the potential for catfishes and lackluster service that can come from escorts, but would a clinica woman be up for spanking and fetish stuff like this? I really enjoy submissive women and I figure it'the be easier to ask that from an escort than asking at a clinica. Is this incorrect to assume?Sent you PM.
Guys,
Has anyone traveled to Brazil by air since the ban lifted few days back? I read there are some very specific proof of insurance requirements for foreigners and that the document must state the person is covered in Brazil for up to 30,000 reals. I don't think it is that simple to obtain such a letter from my government! If anyone has traveled in last few days and dealt with this situation, please share your experience. I am itching to travel to Brazil after a long wait of 2 years.
Thanks.
Frankfurt.The gate agent is suppose to check it before you board the plane. Do you have the option to purchase travel insurance when purchasing your plane ticket? That is what I did and it shows the coverage amount on the contract.
Haha. That's just who's on that site. At the club you can judge for yourself. I had 8 girls last summer and only one had bolt ONS. Plenty of natural talent to be had.Bolt ONS are my fav LOL. Most clinica girls do not have bolt ONS because I find them to be more conservative. Girls at the clubs have bolt ONS to compete with others though most do not have.
Member #4732
09-28-20, 00:59
Bolt ONS are my fav LOL. Most clinica girls do not have bolt ONS because I find them to be more conservative. Girls at the clubs have bolt ONS to compete with others though most do not have.Are you serious that you like bolt ONS? I really wonder what is the % of men that find them attractive. I cannot think of a single case where I found a tit job to be better than the natural proportions, except in cases like reconstructive surgery or women over 40. I find that most of the men I talk to also hate them, but that is just anecdotal, not statistical.
I have written on this before. The Brazilian women in general have been brainwashed into thinking of having their "tits done" as something of a status symbol, a natural rite of passage once you have enough money, like buying an absurdly priced iPhone. In recent discussions I have come to find that many of the ladies want tit jobs so that they can show cleavage when wearing a dress. Which makes me just shake my head and weep.
Gringo Trooper
09-28-20, 01:23
Are you serious that you like bolt ONS? I really wonder what is the % of men that find them attractive.Yeah, I'm with Hobbying on this one. Fake T's are fantastic in my opinion.
It's an age old debate natural T's or fakies.
Depending on a guys preference obviously. It probably correlates also to how watching porn has changed / rewired our brains into what we now like and prefer.
Are you serious that you like bolt ONS? I really wonder what is the % of men that find them attractive. I cannot think of a single case where I found a tit job to be better than the natural proportions, except in cases like reconstructive surgery or women over 40. I find that most of the men I talk to also hate them, but that is just anecdotal, not statistical.I can go either way. I mean, natural is always good, but some tit jobs are damn good too! But when they're bad, they're bad, including how some women get bad scarring underneath. But a quality, well-done tit job is fine with me.
Thanks for the response -I don't think Lufthansa sells health insurance but I am sure travel insurance protection is generally an option with major airlines. I'd have to buy health insurance likely from a 3rd party.
The gate agent is suppose to check it before you board the plane. Do you have the option to purchase travel insurance when purchasing your plane ticket? That is what I did and it shows the coverage amount on the contract.
MjTravelLove
09-28-20, 04:40
Bom gia fellow mongers. Its been over four years since I was in Sao Paulo, (forced retirement). I just read back a dozen pages looking for ABG. Any info appreciated. Thanks. Cheers HD2.Many many reliable sources saying that ABG passed away. Sounds tragic.
Has Bomboa opened up again? Any updated news about Bomboa from anybody on the ground in the know? Thanks in advance!https://bomboa.com.br/
They have not updated their site. I imagine it will be months before they find a new locations and remodel the place.
It is the only place I know of in SP that has medical exams every two months required to be done by the girls. So the owner is extra safe and I doubt the place will open again until next year when the vaccine is readily available.
I also had some great memories going there so hopefully the new place will be bigger and better.
Are you serious that you like bolt ONS? I really wonder what is the % of men that find them attractive. I cannot think of a single case where I found a tit job to be better than the natural proportions, except in cases like reconstructive surgery or women over 40. I find that most of the men I talk to also hate them, but that is just anecdotal, not statistical.
I have written on this before. The Brazilian women in general have been brainwashed into thinking of having their "tits done" as something of a status symbol, a natural rite of passage once you have enough money, like buying an absurdly priced iPhone. In recent discussions I have come to find that many of the ladies want tit jobs so that they can show cleavage when wearing a dress. Which makes me just shake my head and weep.From a biology standpoint, men are attracted to bigger breast because it a sign that the female potential mother is able to produce abundant milk.
From my standpoint, implants makes them look slutty like in pornos which is what most guys want to live out their fantasies.
Are you serious that you like bolt ONS? I really wonder what is the % of men that find them attractive. ..................My problem with bolt-ons is that the chicks won't let me play with them the way that I want to. Big naturals any day.
Has Bomboa opened up again? Any updated news about Bomboa from anybody on the ground in the know? Thanks in advance!They are opening in some other location. Still no details.
Most likely in October or November.
Nando Sinistro
09-28-20, 20:09
So, Due back in SP on Oct 6 for a couple of days, have arranged to meet Olivia again. However today I find myself unexpectedly back in SP. So, as suggested, I arranged a meeting with https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sp/sara-bunny Sara Bunny.
Down to earth and no BS whatsapp chat and a time was set.
Sounds fun, am looking forward to it. Check out her Twitter. Same girl but shorter hair and paler than on Cmodel. Cool.
Long story short. She shows up 80 minutes late, despite having spoken hours in advance and assured me she'd be on time. I fucking cannot abide lateness, I'm sorry but I can't. Ten minutes or so for traffic is fine but 'I'm shopping, be there soon' ten minutes before our meeting from the other side of town is just fucking rude. My time, and hers also I am sure, is worth more.
Anyway. I get on with some shit I need to do online and try not to be pissed off. Just as I am about 30 seconds from saying, don't bother, I'm going to go jerk off, my hand is fucking punctual, she shows up. Skintight black dress and fuck me heels, with a goodie bag with new lingerie that still has the tags on it.
Oh well, I'm still annoyed but at least she wasnt sitting on her ass eating a mcD's and browsing facebook (maybe she was but she hid it well).
So. From there it just got real good real fast. She's a proper pale skinned redhead. Slightly mad, lots of fun and very passionate. Crazy eyes. If you have ever played Hellblade, Senua's Sacrifice, then welcome to hell. You are about to fuck Senua in all her mad eyed crazy shit glory.Guy,
You got lucky. Many people have problem with this working girl.
I am lurker here but don't register before due to my bad English.
This Sara Bunny is famous for be late and give cake to clients. She is already working since 6 years and change her name at minimum 5 times. So she is not young. Someone on twitter said she completed 30 years old last week. Her first name was "Lailla Owen". She trade sex to the moderation of GPGuia to hide her old topic. But still it is findable on archive. Org. Many people complained of her marking with two client for the same hour on case one cancel her. She doesn't respect the hour of others!
Her old topic: https://web.archive.org/web/20180509121612/http://gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=155882&start=20.
The fotos are different from reality because in the ensaio at clubmodel she use a fake megahair and has filters or photoshop to most of her fotos. She paints her hair red and is not natural.
She is true crazy liked you said. Many scars on her arms and legs. For some guy this is a big fetiche. They say crazy fucks good. Kkkk. But really be careful of this one, dude. One time ago she expose her ex-boyfriend on twitter then he expose that she made a coup of the belly and become pregnant from a Japanese client. There was photos so it is not just rumor. She is like a bad telenovela.
If you eat her again 80 $ dolares is already much more than her normal cache. Don't give extra tips or this girls think they can inflate the price to us all!
Gringo Trooper
09-28-20, 21:19
Guy,
You got lucky. Many people have problem with this working girl.Thanks for sharing the info man, that's excellent. You're English is good, we're lucky to have a local brasileiro posting.
What are you favorites places in SP to meet girls? The streets? Boates?
Um prazer.
Member #4732
09-28-20, 22:24
From a biology standpoint, men are attracted to bigger breast because it a sign that the female potential mother is able to produce abundant milk.
From my standpoint, implants makes them look slutty like in pornos which is what most guys want to live out their fantasies.Perhaps, if one looks at the breasts in isolation, but from an evolutionary biology perspective I would argue that "proportion" is the most valued aesthetic trait, and fake tits almost always create worse proportions than nature. I find them to be less exciting in every way, esthetically, and sexually because I find the "porn star" look to be a red flag that says "seasoned pro" . "goza pra mim amor" style. But I guess we all have our tastes, thanks for the response.
Member #4732
09-28-20, 22:28
They are opening in some other location. Still no details.
Most likely in October or November.Unless you are hearing something that I have not heard, I would not hold my breath. I have not heard even a whisper of a date or location and I would expect to hear the rumor of opening way before any real activity. Of Photo I heard maybe some place on Bandeirantes, and of Bomboa zip. If these closures were driven by pandemic financial crunch I would be surprised if they reopened at all unless they were able to find a super deal on a new location that became available for the same reason.
Unless you are hearing something that I have not heard, I would not hold my breath. I have not heard even a whisper of a date or location and I would expect to hear the rumor of opening way before any real activity. Of Photo I heard maybe some place on Bandeirantes, and of Bomboa zip. If these closures were driven by pandemic financial crunch I would be surprised if they reopened at all unless they were able to find a super deal on a new location that became available for the same reason.I didn't know that Cafe Photo was on the "endangered list" too! No Bomboa and Cafe Photo would be a serious, serious hit to the "night league" in Sao Paulo. I've found some really good talent in those places. Man oh man this sucks!
I didn't know that Cafe Photo was on the "endangered list" too! No Bomboa and Cafe Photo would be a serious, serious hit to the "night league" in Sao Paulo. I've found some really good talent in those places. Man oh man this sucks!I thought most girls would head over to Scandello but did not. Curious where they all went, maybe back to their home city.
I agree, it does not look like Bomboa will open anytime soon. However Cafe Photo will. New address is already published on their website. There are photos on their instagram, how the new place will look like after renovation. I expect reopening early next year. Scandallo is open pretty much as pre-pandemic, last week jardin and restaurant only. I was told club area opens this week. Quality bit lower as it used to be. Connection is open and quite busy from wed-fri. Casarão will reopen very soon, maybe in October.
I agree, it does not look like Bomboa will open anytime soon. However Cafe Photo will. New address is already published on their website. There are photos on their instagram, how the new place will look like after renovation. I expect reopening early next year. Scandallo is open pretty much as pre-pandemic, last week jardin and restaurant only. I was told club area opens this week. Quality bit lower as it used to be. Connection is open and busy from wed-fri. Casarão will reopen very soon, maybe in October.
Member #4732
09-29-20, 20:45
I agree, it does not look like Bomboa will open anytime soon. However Cafe Photo will. New address is already published on their website. There are photos on their instagram, how the new place will look like after renovation. I expect reopening early next year. Scandallo is open pretty much as pre-pandemic, last week jardin and restaurant only. I was told club area opens this week. Quality bit lower as it used to be. Connection is open and busy from wed-fri. Casaro will reopen very soon, maybe in October.Good info on new Photo location. Photos look promising, super close to me so I will check it out when it opens. I like the look, maybe Photo 3.0 will be something of a return to the original Photo 1. 0 atmosphere which was more festive than the recently closed version 2.0. I really hope it can reestablish itself as an alternative to Scandalo. Photo 1.0 was fantastic, never a fan of Photo 2.0.
I agree, it does not look like Bomboa will open anytime soon. However Cafe Photo will. New address is already published on their website. There are photos on their instagram, how the new place will look like after renovation. I expect reopening early next year. Scandallo is open pretty much as pre-pandemic, last week jardin and restaurant only. I was told club area opens this week. Quality bit lower as it used to be. Connection is open and busy from wed-fri. Casaro will reopen very soon, maybe in October.Lower quality girls? That's distressing to hear. Planning on visiting over Thanksgiving. Good to know at least that the dance area is opening soon.
Lower quality girls? That's distressing to hear. Planning on visiting over Thanksgiving. Good to know at least that the dance area is opening soon.On my last visits there were many girls, who do not justify Scandallo's prices. There were always some in the past, but not that many and definitely the superstars have not returned yet. I might check out the place again tonight.
On my last visits there were many girls, who do not justify Scandallo's prices. There were always some in the past, but not that many and definitely the superstars have not returned yet. I might check out the place again tonight.Many of the top girls got a boyfriend during the pandemic. They needed someone to help pay their bills amd since they rather not risk working and catching the virus the next best thing is to hook up with a sugar daddy.
As it should be no surprise, two guys got the virus a few days after at a club. Where they got it from no one can really know but they could spread it to girls they've seen.
On my last visits there were many girls, who do not justify Scandallo's prices. There were always some in the past, but not that many and definitely the superstars have not returned yet. I might check out the place again tonight.Interesting. I'm intrigued to see what you find out. Long time lurker here, but first time poster. Have been to Brazil for the past few years but have missed it so much that I'll be booking a trip next week to return there.
Member #4732
10-01-20, 21:21
As it should be no surprise, two guys got the virus a few days after at a club. Where they got it from no one can really know but they could spread it to girls they've seen.Are you referring to Scandalo? Can I ask how you found out, like was it in the news or friens of yours or garora grapevine?
Asking cause I was there last thusday and felt sick on Saturday.
As fir the quality, I would suggest guys don't overthink it. Scandalo draws on a large talent pool, there are always some chicks there that look like they shouldn't be, and one guys superstar is another guys meh.
Hello Everyone,
I'm going to go through the thread and put a google sheet together. If anyone has something currently they want to send me before I begin this process please send. It's going to take some time for me put it together. In addition, I'll add a google maps with locations.
Duke.
Hello Everyone,
I'm going to go through the thread and put a google sheet together. If anyone has something currently they want to send me before I begin this process please send. It's going to take some time for me put it together. In addition, I'll add a google maps with locations.
Duke.FYI World Travel 69, https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=-23.56436189015047%2C-46.61419359078007&z=12&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU.
Are you referring to Scandalo? Can I ask how you found out, like was it in the news or friens of yours or garora grapevine?
Asking cause I was there last thusday and felt sick on Saturday.
As fir the quality, I would suggest guys don't overthink it. Scandalo draws on a large talent pool, there are always some chicks there that look like they shouldn't be, and one guys superstar is another guys meh.I found out from guys that got positive covid test. They don't know where they got it. It is a risk for people as Sao Paulo registers 5-7 thousand new cases a day.
Can anyone speak to the availability of fetish requests in clinicas? Nothing crazy, just would like submissive women with elements of BDSM. Or would this be better suited for escorts? I have looked on Photo and can't find too many escorts that are explicit about being okay with being submissive for a session. Any fetish-oriented escort directories or services in SP? Please feel free to PM me if you would like to share privately. Would appreciate any suggestions.
On my last visits there were many girls, who do not justify Scandallo's prices. There were always some in the past, but not that many and definitely the superstars have not returned yet. I might check out the place again tonight.Every girl has their own "valor" value.
It's not cheap to work there either, most have to take Uber and then pay entrance fee 250 reais if they don't go there every day and eat there if no client invites to eat. So even the less attractive girls have no choice but to ask the same price as others.
Because the price of entry is high to work there, the girls that do not make money stops working there. So girls are not turned away from working by management because girls are clients of the club also, they just stop going if they do not make money.
That is a report of distinction and answers most of the questions a 2019 visitor should have. I personally will not reply to any newbie questions in 2019 unless the user indicates that they have read Thunder5's report and their question goes beyond what he has already covered.
Thunder5 has provided a good roadmap for the short term visitor. The only thing I would add is that once you have sampled the big 3 - TG, Casarao and Scandalo, if you have time permitting you can also sample Bomboa (same cost as Scandalo but a different vibe, more Brazilian), and some other clinicas (for a broader selection of ladies). That's pretty much it.I have RTFF.
ScoobieDiver
10-06-20, 23:07
Bom gia fellow mongers. Its been over four years since I was in Sao Paulo, (forced retirement). I just read back a dozen pages looking for ABG. Any info appreciated. Thanks. Cheers HD2.That's really so sad about ABG. I hadn't seen any posts from him for so long, I had wondered about this. He was such a gentleman and made my trip to SP so much more enjoyable. He was such good character, and had such a genuine personality. He will be missed.
Went to Scandallo last Wednesday. The disco area has finally reopened. Again was not impressed with the talent though. The few ones worth the 250 take out fee + 1000 for the girl, were already busy. Went to Connection after. Same owner as Scandallo and many girls switching between the two places. Prices about half, good party atmosphere. Brought a girl home for 400. She would have been among the top 10 that night in Scandallo also. My favourite place now.
Gringo Trooper
10-10-20, 00:11
Looks like this thread got hit with a buzzkill.
On a lighter note, how are things in São Paulo? For those who are there.
Are the boates getting better and having more talent as each week progresses?
Another fun day in Sao Paulo.
I'm heading to SP Tuesday for two weeks. I'll let you know. I'm also keen to hear from anyone who has been to the clinicas recently. Understandably there are few recent posts.
Looks like this thread got hit with a buzzkill.
On a lighter note, how are things in So Paulo? For those who are there.
Are the boates getting better and having more talent as each week progresses?
Hey man, could you please clear some space on your PM? Thanks.
Went to Scandallo last Wednesday. The disco area has finally reopened. Again was not impressed with the talent though. The few ones worth the 250 take out fee + 1000 for the girl, were already busy. Went to Connection after. Same owner as Scandallo and many girls switching between the two places. Prices about half, good party atmosphere. Brought a girl home for 400. She would have been among the top 10 that night in Scandallo also. My favourite place now.Yea Connection is a very nice place isn't it? When you drive past there you don't even know its open, its all pitch black with no sound coming out of there, funny. I like that club, but its too far away. But it was my only choice when I was there in the 2nd week of August.
Went to Connection + Tangara this past Saturday.
Tangara. Imo this place was just terrible. Long queues, no good looking women at all and I was there for possibly 10 minutes and left. No temp checks, no masks. You couldn't pay me to fuck these girls.
Connection Nightclub. Hate how it's so far from everything but figured why not. So I show up, it's super dark outside as others say so wasn't sure if it's open or not. The moment I open my Uber door, I see some **** walking out screaming and hollering across the street. She looks good. I'm going to assume it was open. Walk in, the bodyguard just pats me down. No temp check or face masks in here. 100 reais cover. Club is dead, but there are some hotties in here surprisingly. Girls tell me club is extremely dead and a few worked at both Scandallo and here. They say Connection is better than Scandallo now since it's so expensive there. Business as normal here. Took a girl upstairs, had a good fuck and left. Will have to check on Scandallo this next week as I will be popping over to Rio for a few days to see what's good over there.
World Travel 69
10-12-20, 18:39
I just added the mongering places.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU&ll=-23.56737861056829%2C-46.677013412689575&z=11
I see Scandallo Lounge is about to reopen. Since I had nothing to do I was on social media and saw some potential mongering spots that to my recollection had not been mentioned in the SP forum. If anyone has time to check them out please report your findings or if you already know if any of these establishments please report your experiences. I haven't been to SP in such a long time so I cannot vouch for these establishments except for Love Story (but again I do not know how it is now). Some may be a distance away. Anyhoo. Just something I saw while on social media. I added some regular clubs just for fun. Copy paste links.
Mongering spots:
Gauguin Club -Rua Arizona, 1550, Brooklin, 04567-003 Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil http://www.gauguinclub.com.br/ +55115505-5515.
812 Night Club -Guarulhos. Av. Carlos Ferreira Endres No812-Itapegica,07041-030 Guarulhos, SP, Brazil http://www.812club.com.br +551195086-9949.
SPICY (Swing) CLUB -Alameda dos Pamaris, 42 Moema, So Paulo, SP https://spicyclub.com.br/ +551194762-2027.
2028 Augusta Bar -Rua Augusta, 2028,01412-000 - Cerqueira seesar, So Paulo / SP http://2028bar.com.br/ +551193407-8780.
Nova Ilha the Fantasia -Avenida Salim Farah Maluf - 3680 - Quarta Parada, So Paulo. SP https://www.ilhadafantasia.com.br/ +551198522-8046.
Playboy Night Club -Rua Tuiuti, 1230 - Tatuap, 03081-012 - So Paulo. SP https://playboynightclub.com.br/ +551197042-8340.
Connection Night Club -Av. Dr. Eduardo Cotching, 1178, Jardim Anlia Franco. So Paulo. SP http://www.connectionvip.com.br/ +55112672-1700.
Regular Clubs (Mongering Potential*)
Dukke Entretenimento -Rua Funchal, 619, So Paulo, SP, Brazil https://www.facebook.com/DukKeSP.
Carioca Club -Rua Cardeal Arcoverde, 2899 http://web.cariocaclub.com.br/.
LE Reve -Rua. Marqus de Paranagu, 329 http://www.lereveclub.com.br/ https://youtu.be/PWtJR6x9bRM.
Love Story* - Rua. Arajo, 232 Repblica http://www.danceterialovestory.tur.br/.
Cafe Piu Piu -Rua. Treze de Maio, 134 Bela Vista http://cafepiupiu.com.br/.
Gracia Bar -Rua Corop, 87 https://graciabar.com.br/.
Bourbon Street Music Club -Rua. Dos Chans, 127 https://bourbonstreet.com.br/.
Mahau -Rua. Professor Atlio Innocenti 160, Itaim Bibi http://www.mahaurestaurantebar.com.br/.
Sutton Sao Paulo -Avenida Brigadeiro Faria Lima 4509,18 floor. Rooftop, Sao Paulo, 03178-200.
https://youtu.be/NYmO5I5iOX0
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Went to Connection + Tangara this past Saturday.
Tangara. Imo this place was just terrible. Long queues, no good looking women at all and I was there for possibly 10 minutes and left. No temp checks, no masks. You couldn't pay me to fuck these girls.
Connection Nightclub. Hate how it's so far from everything but figured why not. So I show up, it's super dark outside as others say so wasn't sure if it's open or not. The moment I open my Uber door, I see some **** walking out screaming and hollering across the street. She looks good. I'm going to assume it was open. Walk in, the bodyguard just pats me down. No temp check or face masks in here. 100 reais cover. Club is dead, but there are some hotties in here surprisingly. Girls tell me club is extremely dead and a few worked at both Scandallo and here. They say Connection is better than Scandallo now since it's so expensive there. Business as normal here. Took a girl upstairs, had a good fuck and left. Will have to check on Scandallo this next week as I will be popping over to Rio for a few days to see what's good over there.The best days for Connection are Wednesday and Thursday, the place will be packed till 4 am. Sat-Tue it's dead and not worth going. Scandallo always has a decent crowd.
The best days for Connection are Wednesday and Thursday, the place will be packed till 4 am. Sat-Tue it's dead and not worth going. Scandallo always has a decent crowd.Good to know. I'll save Connection for Wed / Thurs this upcoming week. Scandallo for the weekend. I messaged a few of the other clubs on social media and based on other reports they're either closed / undergoing renovation. Anyone know of anything different? Is Connection / Scandallo the only clubs open at this time or am I just incorrect?
UniversalX
10-14-20, 07:04
I just added the mongering places.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU&ll=-23.56737861056829%2C-46.677013412689575&z=11Great Map and a good resource for all.
I just added the mongering places.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU&ll=-23.56737861056829%2C-46.677013412689575&z=11WT, You are a life saver! Excellent resource.
The map is excellent. Thank you. I was at Ibirapuera Shopping buying a SIM card yesterday (my old Claro card expired). When I was done I looked at the map and walked around the neighborhood and popped into Miruna. There were a handful of girls. It was still relatively early and some were just arriving. I had coffee and waited. Finally I chose Juliana. She is tall and slim. Lots of tats. Maybe a 7.5. Very friendly and very service oriented. (The downside is her breasts sag a bit, but overall not much to complain about). Did the deed and left very satisfied. Are $230 per hour. Asked her about covid. She said things are starting to pick up again. Perhaps I'll check out Brooklin and Kin today.
I just added the mongering places.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU&ll=-23.56737861056829%2C-46.677013412689575&z=11
A follow up to last night's post. The price at Miruna should read "at are $230 per hour". A good deal.
I visited Brooklin and Kin today. Brooklin requires a temp check when entering and they place plastic overs on your shoes. Nice line up. The common area has been redone since my last visit a year ago. It's quite nice with a full bar. A good selection of girls for all tastes. Kin hasn't changed. It's a little downmarket but there are gems to be found.
Gringo Trooper
10-16-20, 21:45
Good to know. I'll save Connection for Wed / Thurs this upcoming week. Scandallo for the weekend.Did you make it to Connection or Scandallo? If so, let us know how it goes there!
Cheers.
Did you make it to Connection or Scandallo? If so, let us know how it goes there!
Cheers.Not yet. As I stated in a previous post I'm currently in Rio for a few days at a few of the Termas and local nightclubs. When I come back to Sao Paulo next week I would assume Connection to still have some hotties. I am curious to see how Scandallo is though as I heard that they increased prices.
Trip is coming up soon and having a second thought if it is worthy at this time due to Covid.
Is anyone who recently visited or living in Sao Paulo can chime in?
Covid cases are rampant where I live but a bit worry about Sao Paulo which never have visited before.
Gringo Trooper
10-18-20, 02:10
Trip is coming up soon and having a second thought if it is worthy at this time due to Covid.
Is anyone who recently visited or living in Sao Paulo can chime in?
Covid cases are rampant where I live but a bit worry about Sao Paulo which never have visited before.Life is short man, pull the trigger! Have a great time and let us know how the trip goes.
Trip is coming up soon and having a second thought if it is worthy at this time due to Covid.
Is anyone who recently visited or living in Sao Paulo can chime in?
Covid cases are rampant where I live but a bit worry about Sao Paulo which never have visited before.I'm not in Sampa but I don't think those on the ground can give a definitive answer to your question. Covid is a fact of current life, we all have to use our own judgment based on our own risk aversion and our current state of health. Either you are prepared to take the risk or your not, its your own personal call.
The fact that you are in this hobby suggests you are prepared to take some risks to enjoy what you like.
Trip is coming up soon and having a second thought if it is worthy at this time due to Covid.
Is anyone who recently visited or living in Sao Paulo can chime in?
Covid cases are rampant where I live but a bit worry about Sao Paulo which never have visited before.I live in Sao Paulo, my work takes me Rio, Curitiba & parts of MG. This is a screen shot from a SP morning talk show, kinda like the US Today show. It was broadcast on the 16 Oct show.
Cheers.
Trip is coming up soon and having a second thought if it is worthy at this time due to Covid.
Is anyone who recently visited or living in Sao Paulo can chime in?
Covid cases are rampant where I live but a bit worry about Sao Paulo which never have visited before.Having sex with multiple chicas is the complete opposite of social distancing. Of course it's not a "safe" activity (for both Covid and a number of other issues). That said, unless you are elderly or abuse, I'd go ahead and make the trip.
I live in Sao Paulo, my work takes me Rio, Curitiba & parts of MG. This is a screen shot from a SP morning talk show, kinda like the US Today show. It was broadcast on the 16 Oct show.
Cheers.Thanks for the feedback but have no idea what the photo mean.
Would you mind giving out more details?
Thanks for the feedback but have no idea what the photo mean.
Would you mind giving out more details?Subject: Covid-19 Deaths in Brasil.
Red = States with deaths on the rise: 1 state.
Yellow = States with deaths remaining stable: 6 states + DF (Brasilia).
Green = States reporting deaths on the decline: 19 states*.
*Update: Sao Paulo is now in the green.
Cheers.
Thanks Bro,
Appreciate it, I will avoid in future. Luckily my last visit a couple of weeks ago coincided with Olivia Diaz being back in town and I spent a pleasant two days inside her and enjoying that fabulous body. Which strangely enough is my plan for tomorrow when I arrive too.
I also tried a certain Naomi Hills from Clubmodel I think it was. Tall, slim kinda almost asian look to her. She was fun but I was tired and she was a bit mechanical at times, not sure I would repeat. She let me do some weird shit to her though so that was cool.
I have another few visits lined up where I'll see Olivia again but I also have a couple of others lined up to try.
Guy,
You got lucky. Many people have problem with this working girl.
I am lurker here but don't register before due to my bad English.
This Sara Bunny is famous for be late and give cake to clients. She is already working since 6 years and change her name at minimum 5 times. So she is not young. Someone on twitter said she completed 30 years old last week. Her first name was "Lailla Owen". She trade sex to the moderation of GPGuia to hide her old topic. But still it is findable on archive. Org. Many people complained of her marking with two client for the same hour on case one cancel her. She doesn't respect the hour of others!
Her old topic: https://web.archive.org/web/20180509121612/http://gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=155882&start=20.
The fotos are different from reality because in the ensaio at clubmodel she use a fake megahair and has filters or photoshop to most of her fotos. She paints her hair red and is not natural.
She is true crazy liked you said. Many scars on her arms and legs. For some guy this is a big fetiche. They say crazy fucks good. Kkkk. But really be careful of this one, dude. One time ago she expose her ex-boyfriend on twitter then he expose that she made a coup of the belly and become pregnant from a Japanese client. There was photos so it is not just rumor. She is like a bad telenovela.
If you eat her again 80 $ dolares is already much more than her normal cache. Don't give extra tips or this girls think they can inflate the price to us all!
Thanks for the feedback but have no idea what the photo mean.
Would you mind giving out more details?Subject: Covid-19 Deaths in Brasil.
Red = States with deaths on the rise: 1 state.
Yellow = States with deaths remaining stable: 6 states + DF (Brasilia).
Green = States reporting deaths on the decline: 19 states*.
*Update: Sao Paulo is now in the green.
Cheers.
SixMongerSix
10-19-20, 17:46
Hello fellow mongers.
This is just a follow up to my previous post about my upcoming trip to Brazil in two months. I'm going to be staying in SP a little longer than Rio, because of all the additional treats that SP offers for a first timer heading to possibly the most under-rated spot for mongering. Just like Rio, I've already contacted some of the girls on Twitter and confirmed dates for them and their friends. Rio does have some gem acompanhantes but SP completely dominates it in terms of volume. All the classic boates are on my list including the legendary Scandallo. Would like to get a taste of everything the country has to offer (Clinicas, Boates, Termas, acompanhantes luxo, even Tinder just to see if I can find one college student fluent in english). I will probably be going to a clinica as well, most likely brooklin but based on what I've heard, Brazil doesn't have the best quality of erotic "masseuse" and personally I find the girls that I talk to on twitter to be far more attractive and younger. I don't mind spending 150-300 BRL extra on a quality girl than an average gaucha. For the one's who are interested, girls like at larissagaucha cost around the 400-500 region and I've confirmed with over 15+ just for backup even though I'll probably see 6-7. Send me a direct message if you like to see the other ones. Unlike Rio, I've booked an Airbnb which has a private safebox just in case.
Based on my research, SP doesn't really have much to do for the day other than strolling around paulista which was recommended and wanted to watch a Corinthians game but not sure if the stadium's will open by then. If any of the veterans can let me know of the best ways to spend the days until a visit form an acompanhante+Scandallo, it would be highly appreciated. Also I wanted to know if some of the girls that work in boates, are also independent escorts on the side posted in some of the websites like splove or private55, because from what I've heard, some of the boates get packed with 50+ chicas at once.
Finally, I don't speak Portuguese, comfortable in Spanish but will be planning to learn the basics few days before the trip. I personally don't think language should be an issue but you guys should know way more than I do.
P.S., there's even better things to use, other than google translate on your phone!
Looking forward to hear back from experts!
Not yet. As I stated in a previous post I'm currently in Rio for a few days at a few of the Termas and local nightclubs. When I come back to Sao Paulo next week I would assume Connection to still have some hotties. I am curious to see how Scandallo is though as I heard that they increased prices.I don't think Scandallo increased prices. It is still Entrada 150 and Consumacao 150. Drink prices also seem to be unchanged. Scandallo and Connection will be the only boates with both quality and quantity at the moment. There might be some smaller and cheaper places open now, however I doubt they have hot girls, except maybe Cafe Gauguin, which could be good on the weekend.
Update on Casarao, they will not open before December, maybe even January. Same for Cafe Photo.
Based on my research, SP doesn't really have much to do for the day other than strolling around paulista which was recommended and wanted to watch a Corinthians game but not sure if the stadium's will open by then. If any of the veterans can let me know of the best ways to spend the days until a visit form an acompanhante+Scandallo, it would be highly appreciated.Actually cruising the malls in Sao Paulo isn't so bad. Now take into consideration these recommendations fall under killing time.
You can go to Bar do Mané in the Mercado Municipal and have a chopp (draft beer), the famous mortadella sandwich and the pastels. It's not the best market in the world and it can be a bit touristy, but it is a fun diversion. There are other restaurants there as well. São Bento metro is a short walk from the market.
I've walked around Japantown in Liberdade and grabbed some Japanese food for lunch. You might catch a street market. There are some cute Asian mix girls working in the stores.
Since we are heading into summer, it's nice to walk around Parque Ibirapuera. There should be some female joggers to check out. Shopping Ibirapuera mall is not too far away as well as some of the clinicas. The MASP art museum in Jardim Paulista doesn't compare to the great art museums of the world, but it can hold your attention for a few hours.
I don't think Scandallo increased prices. It is still Entrada 150 and Consumacao 150. Drink prices also seem to be unchanged. Scandallo and Connection will be the only boates with both quality and quantity at the moment. There might be some smaller and cheaper places open now, however I doubt they have hot girls, except maybe Cafe Gauguin, which could be good on the weekend.
Update on Casarao, they will not open before December, maybe even January. Same for Cafe Photo.And is Bomboa really as good as dead?
SixMongerSix
10-20-20, 02:37
Actually cruising the malls in Sao Paulo isn't so bad. Now take into consideration these recommendations fall under killing time.
You can go to Bar do Man in the Mercado Municipal and have a chopp (draft beer), the famous mortadella sandwich and the pastels. It's not the best market in the world and it can be a bit touristy, but it is a fun diversion. There are other restaurants there as well. So Bento metro is a short walk from the market.
I've walked around Japantown in Liberdade and grabbed some Japanese food for lunch. You might catch a street market. There are some cute Asian mix girls working in the stores.
Since we are heading into summer, it's nice to walk around Parque Ibirapuera. There should be some female joggers to check out. Shopping Ibirapuera mall is not too far away as well as some of the clinicas. The MASP art museum in Jardim Paulista doesn't compare to the great art museums of the world, but it can hold your attention for a few hours.Cheers for the feedback Wyatt.
I did have MASP, Mercado Municipal and Praca Benedito Calixto on the list but thought to minimize because of the current situation. Having said that, SP is in the green zone right now and I'm hoping it would get better by December. As I posted earlier, personally I wouldn't mind spending 400-500 on the "luxo" acompanhantes but reading some of your older reviews alongside Muppets, it seems like the quality of the girls in Bomboa and Cafe photo may be as good but cheaper.
Also I did book a hotel room for Rio but decided to go with an Airbnb in Jardins which costs half the amount of the good hotels and x5 the size. Some of them remind me of the classic lofts in old Montreal, plus I figured it'll be more enjoyable for my travelling partners. I'm going to check Tinder too but it seems like the girls are not as active as other locations.
And is Bomboa really as good as dead?Site says coming soon https://bomboa.com.br/.
Subject: Covid-19 Deaths in Brasil.
Red = States with deaths on the rise: 1 state.
Yellow = States with deaths remaining stable: 6 states + DF (Brasilia).
Green = States reporting deaths on the decline: 19 states*.
*Update: Sao Paulo is now in the green.
Cheers.Still 5000+ new cases a day in SP, would not be consider blue in other countries.
Any recommendations on some good clinicas these days? I know Abbóbora was great pre-pandemic and I plan on checking it out either today or tomorrow but was trying to see where the best day time spots are. Was terribly disappointed in Tangara. Seeing as how Scandallo / Connection are the only night time spots, I want to see what are everyone's thoughts on day time spots. Yes, I can use some of the escort sites but that requires syncing up and what not and I'm usually busy with work during the day so I just want somewhere I can go, pop in, and pop right back out. Call it a lunch break if you will.
Still 5000+ new cases a day in SP, would not be consider blue in other countries.Would be curious as to your data source. I work with some of the major pharmaceutical firms, medical equipment suppliers, medical / healthcare providers & professionals in the SP / MG / PR / RJ area. My sources are telling me Covid-19 deaths in the SP city / state area are down a -31% over the last 2 week period.
Your data is extremely flawed. Where are you anyway?
If you want I'd be more than happy to post data from my sources. Assuming you do the same. Which I'm quite sure you can't!
Cheers.
The Critic
10-21-20, 04:06
Would be curious as to your data source. I work with some of the major pharmaceutical firms, medical equipment suppliers, medical / healthcare providers & professionals in the SP / MG / PR / RJ area. My sources are telling me Covid-19 deaths in the SP city / state area are down a -31% over the last 2 week period.
Still 5000+ new cases a day in SP, would not be consider blue in other countries.If you two are going to argue then use the same set of facts. Go to the Detail section.
https://susanalitico.saude.gov.br/extensions/covid-19_html/covid-19_html.html
or
https://www.bing.com/search?q=daily+covid+cases+in+sao+paulo&cvid=94f03981233f4017921b0b001d995d69&pglt=171&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531
or
https://agenciabrasil.ebc.com.br/en/saude/noticia/2020-10/covid-19-brazil-has-749-deaths-27200-new-cases-24-hours
If you two are going to argue then use the same set of facts. Go to the Detail section.
https://susanalitico.saude.gov.br/extensions/covid-19_html/covid-19_html.html
or
https://www.bing.com/search?q=daily+covid+cases+in+sao+paulo&cvid=94f03981233f4017921b0b001d995d69&pglt=171&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531
or
https://agenciabrasil.ebc.com.br/en/saude/noticia/2020-10/covid-19-brazil-has-749-deaths-27200-new-cases-24-hoursExcept for the weekends where there is under reporting, weekdays averaging 5000 cases.
So yesterday it turns out I didn't get to see Olivia as planned (would be our 5th meeting) as she had Nov. 20 not Oct. 20 in mind so wasn't in SP. No big deal, looking trough our email and whatsapp conversations I hadn't actually, at any point, specified the month. Duh. Anyways, she sent me a bunch of new photos she's had done and some selfies meantime including the photos she took of her ass and tits covered in my cum from our last meetings. See her again in a few weeks, we have a threesome planned with a skinny friend of hers who also posts on Clubmodel at times and does a lot of fetish stuff. Report to come next month.
So, I did meet someone else I'd been planning on meeting, we'd chatted a few times but couldn't work out a date til now.
Advertises on SPlove (though not at the moment) under Ella Biakow or something similar.
Medium height, slim with nice big heavy full tits which are about a handful of years away from being saggy but at the moment are fucking splendid. A little bit of stretch marks in the middle in the wrong light but meh, awesome. Tight body, no fat on her and a lovely tasty tight tight tight pussy.
Gorgeous red hair and angular slim face. Half Russian half some other stuff. Slightly mad.
We arranged to meet at 1900 at my hotel, don't be late says I. Don't worry, I won't says she. During the day she sent me various selfies. Hot. Am horny.
Asks me if I want to have some wine with her. Sure, I'll get some. Nice Malbec will do. Love this part of the world, good wine is cheap as is good ass and good pussy.
So in the end she spends almost 4 hours with me, alternatively talking, sucking my cock, fucking, showering, sucking my cock some more, sucking my cock whilst drinking wine. Drinking wine whilst I eat her delicious pussy, Drinking wine whilst she jerks me off on her tits, talking about life and shit whilst drinking wine and sucking my cock, Spilling wine on the bed whilst I fuck her from behind whilst cupping her ample tits in my not so ample hands. Generally just a chilled out fuck a thon. She is definitely a GFE. Maybe I was lucky and connected with her, I dunno. She understands spanish but doesn't speak it (I am fluent) and understands a little english. Otherwise its Russian or German. She did spend a lot of time talking about her ex. HM. Doubt she sees me as a replacement, I was pretty clear on that front. But women are mad.
I was fucking exhausted to be fair. In the end I was almost falling asleep and she wanted to order some food, it was 1130 pm. I felt really bad but had to sleep and she said that's ok I'll take an Uber home and eat there, its too expensive here anyway. 2 minutes after she left I was asleep, probably in a puddle of jizz and sweat with a rubber stuck to my face. SNAFU. Kinda like being back in Bangkok.
Woke up this morning to a whatsapp sent 20 minutes later of her legs in the hotel bar with a couple of beers asking if I wanted one.
Now, the cost. We had arranged 90 minutes with a few extras I like to do which most girls don't dig including me filming the whole thing for science. So we agreed 200 dollars. Yeah, its a lot in Brazil but that's what happens if you want to make homemade porno with your Gopro with hot chicks and piss all over them as and when you feel like it. It would've been half the price otherwise if memory serves. There were a few moments where I worried that at the end of the 4 hours or so she was going to hit me with a 600 buck request and I would have to toss her cum covered naked dripping ass out into the hallway, but genuinely I didn't think it was going to be an issue and it wasn't.
Did I have a good time? Hell yeah, honestly, better than many girlfriends I've had. She's not a filthy adventurous **** in the sheets like some (she's not going to stick a couple of fingers up your ass whilst crying as she gags on your cock and regrets not paying attention at school like some) but she has in my opinion an amazing body and is utterly fucking gorgeous, and the way she looks you in the eye with those huge pupils while you fuck her and she bites her bottom lip and grinds the clit into you. Mmm. If I was 20 years younger and a lot stupider would I think I was in love, probably. But I'm not.
I will repeat. Maybe tonight but not sure yet, I'm pretty beat because I slept really badly and had a busy morning, oh and just spent an hour enjoying the tight 22 year old https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sp/vivian-ortiz.
She has a jailbait body (honestly she's got a better body than my neighbour's volleyball playing 17 year old daughter who sunbathes topless) and tiny little cute tasty titties, a proper cameltoe pussy that gets so wet and creamy, my cock and belly were covered in her juice in the end. Pretty face but spoilt by late teen acne / spots fairly well concealed with makeup. You don't need to look at the mantelpiece when you are stoking the fire. Mediocre / crap BJ as many young new girls do, but a good enthusiastic fuck and claimed she came a few times. Faked it well if she didn't, and left me soaked in her juice. Tight ass. Slight stretch marks on the butt / thighs but nothing major. Cute tattoos. Speaks excellent english, understood my weird accent with no trouble.
Wasn't down with me pissing all over her but I can forgive that since I got another nice home movie and left her itt bitty succulent teenager like titties and face looking like someone had done a bad job of plastering the walls. Can I cum on your tits I said? Of course, she says, pushing them together. Hur Hur Hur thinks I, you're getting it in the face. SPLAT. Cue lots of Lols. From me, but she took it in good spirits as an accident.
500 MG Zinc tablets, L argnine 3000, L carnitine 3000 and Maca Root pills (all available on amazon and take double the dose. Triple for the maca) and some mild gym time doing cardio daily (gym time makes about half the difference if you are middle aged like me) have given me Peter North like redecorating abilities where previously I had a decent load but it kinda oozed out, even having spent years doing PC exercises. If everything else I write isn't to your liking, take that as a free tip and go forth and shoot porno godlike loads all over hot girls. Just be careful, a few weeks ago I was getting finished off by hand and managed to cum on my own face Ladyboy porn style. Not cool. Doesn't actually taste so bad though, I've eaten worse meals on aircraft, but it stings the eyes.
Steve 9696
10-21-20, 20:15
Love that story. Thanks for sharing. We need more fun slingin action on the forum so thanks for carrying "the load"! LOL. Seriously good stuff. Keep it coming.
Hahaha! I enjoyed that story Muppets. I, too, am into trying to record the girl I'm fucking for a few hours. Last time I got away with a three some on video and the second girl kept fingering my asshole like it was a vagina. I kept taking her hand and throwing it away but she kept insisting until I literally had to turn around and tell her no! Those long sessions are always the best, especially when they aren't watching the clock.
SixMongerSix
10-21-20, 23:09
So yesterday it turns out I didn't get to see Olivia as planned (would be our 5th meeting) as she had Nov. 20 not Oct. 20 in mind so wasn't in SP. No big deal, looking trough our email and whatsapp conversations I hadn't actually, at any point, specified the month. Duh. Anyways, she sent me a bunch of new photos she's had done and some selfies meantime including the photos she took of her ass and tits covered in my cum from our last meetings. See her again in a few weeks, we have a threesome planned with a skinny friend of hers who also posts on Clubmodel at times and does a lot of fetish stuff. Report to come next month.
So, I did meet someone else I'd been planning on meeting, we'd chatted a few times but couldn't work out a date til now.
Advertises on SPlove (though not at the moment) under Ella Biakow or something similar.
Medium height, slim with nice big heavy full tits which are about a handful of years away from being saggy but at the moment are fucking splendid. A little bit of stretch marks in the middle in the wrong light but meh, awesome. Tight body, no fat on her and a lovely tasty tight tight tight pussy..Hey Muppets,
Your stories are classic and will definitely put into effect when I get there. Highly recommend to add the luxury girls like Nicoli blanco, Dani Prado, Pati Feraz, Dani Bueno, Isabella Salgado, Ana Laura gauche, Melzhina Gaucha and a few more on your list. Lorrane Ruiva was the by far the best last year, teenage redhead with the best natural tits in all three over Brazil. She is a bit under the radar but you might get a response. Some of them girls typically charge a bit more but look them up on twitter and you'll see the quality relative the other girls on splove. Private55 is also descent. I've found Royal Rio with presidential suites costing cheaper than ever. For my taste, PA has the best girls and many are traveling to SP with a bunch available.
Booked some awesome Airbnb close to most boates and clinica. I knew a fellow monger who uses amazon echo in his suite and told me it was actually pretty fun.
Thanks Bro,
Appreciate it, I will avoid in future. Luckily my last visit a couple of weeks ago coincided with Olivia Diaz being back in town and I spent a pleasant two days inside her and enjoying that fabulous body. Which strangely enough is my plan for tomorrow when I arrive too.
I also tried a certain Naomi Hills from Clubmodel I think it was. Tall, slim kinda almost asian look to her. She was fun but I was tired and she was a bit mechanical at times, not sure I would repeat. She let me do some weird shit to her though so that was cool.
I have another few visits lined up where I'll see Olivia again but I also have a couple of others lined up to try.Naomi Hills was lame?? Sucks to hear want to give her a test drive, had a brief interaction with her a Twitter. Like your style bro I see you go for the top GDP. Can't wait to get to SP hope I have good timing I see they move often. I want a piece of that Isabela Salgado.
The best days for Connection are Wednesday and Thursday, the place will be packed till 4 am. Sat-Tue it's dead and not worth going. Scandallo always has a decent crowd.A little update from me. I went to Connection and the place was packed. Around 50 ish girls and most if not all the seats were occupied. Great selection of girls. Ended up picking a girl that said it was her first day working (yeah I'll see about that) but she was smoking hot. Great cute face, silicone tits (not a big fan but tits are tits), and she was bubbly to boot. Elevator isn't operational so you got to walk to the rooms next door. Did our session and everything felt normal in the club. There was even an orgy down the hall. They must have had at least 5 girls in there. I just happened to be walking down when they ordered a bottle and I peaked inside to see what all the noise was about. Club felt normal, had a live band and restaurant side was open.
I'll be going to my current favorite daytime spot (Abbobora) and will then go to Connection tonight. Will be at Scandallo tomorrow.
Gringo Trooper
10-23-20, 01:11
A little update from me. I went to Connection and the place was packed. Around 50 ish girls and most if not all the seats were occupied. Great selection of girls.That's great news. I'm glad to hear it went well. Thanks for keeping us in the loop!
Have a good trip man.
A little update from me. I went to Connection and the place was packed. Around 50 ish girls and most if not all the seats were occupied. Great selection of girls. Ended up picking a girl that said it was her first day working (yeah I'll see about that) but she was smoking hot. Great cute face, silicone tits (not a big fan but tits are tits), and she was bubbly to boot. Elevator isn't operational so you got to walk to the rooms next door. Did our session and everything felt normal in the club. There was even an orgy down the hall. They must have had at least 5 girls in there. I just happened to be walking down when they ordered a bottle and I peaked inside to see what all the noise was about. Club felt normal, had a live band and restaurant side was open.Does anybody know if Connection still has the first Friday of the month party? I read back about 100 pages or so that on the first Friday it's 400 reals including cover charge, room and one hour with any girl in the house. Asking for November 6th.
OK to clarify re Naomi, she had her moments and was fun at times. She wanted to take a video for herself of her peeing on my cock, for example, and she took mine in her mouth until it actually came out of her nose as she choked and spat out about a litre and a half, so yeah, dirty ***** at times, but as for the sex. Well. No connection at all. Maybe that was just the chemistry between her and I, you know, and well, I got some cool shit on video to fap to in future, but I won't repeat largely because the actual fucking was boring as shit. Ymmv.
Thanks for the positive comments guys, this shit is supposed to be fun so I do try to be frank and interesting.
I'll write more on 2 or 3 Nov after I try this friend of Olivia's and we get our threesome done.
I will definitely lookup some of those other recommendations if I can but it looks like after November I'll be shifting my gratuitous degrading of highly attractive women to Barra de Tijuca in areío. The girl I'm seeing on 2 Nov recommended by Olivia visits there at times so I have an in, as I have no clue what sites to use there. Riosexsite site turns up but I dunno looks like a popup ad. Haven't been there in so long.
Naomi Hills was lame?? Sucks to hear want to give her a test drive, had a brief interaction with her a Twitter. Like your style bro I see you go for the top GDP. Can't wait to get to SP hope I have good timing I see they move often. I want a piece of that Isabela Salgado.
OK to clarify re Naomi, she had her moments and was fun at times. She wanted to take a video for herself of her peeing on my cock, for example, and she took mine in her mouth until it actually came out of her nose as she choked and spat out about a litre and a half, so yeah, dirty ***** at times, but as for the sex. Well. No connection at all. Maybe that was just the chemistry between her and I, you know, and well, I got some cool shit on video to fap to in future, but I won't repeat largely because the actual fucking was boring as shit. Ymmv.
Thanks for the positive comments guys, this shit is supposed to be fun so I do try to be frank and interesting.
I'll write more on 2 or 3 Nov after I try this friend of Olivia's and we get our threesome done.
I will definitely lookup some of those other recommendations if I can but it looks like after November I'll be shifting my gratuitous degrading of highly attractive women to Barra de Tijuca in areo. The girl I'm seeing on 2 Nov recommended by Olivia visits there at times so I have an in, as I have no clue what sites to use there. Riosexsite site turns up but I dunno looks like a popup ad. Haven't been there in so long.If I'm not mistaken the fellas in the Rio forum say Riosexsite and hotside are legit. I been reading both forum bcuz I'll be in sp and Rio in November so been learning about both cities. Keep it up Muppett you are right this shit supposed to be fun and sound like you having a blast my guy.
If I'm not mistaken the fellas in the Rio forum say Riosexsite and hotside are legit. I been reading both forum bcuz I'll be in SP and Rio in November so been learning about both cities. Keep it up Muppett you are right this shit supposed to be fun and sound like you having a blast my guy.Rio Sex Site is totally legit. I've used it, and would not hesitate to do so again. Fucked a cute redhead from there who spoke fluent English. Then met with porn star Elisa Sanches twice, who speaks fluent Spanish.
My experience is very different from most of you. Since this pandemic, the girls has been jacking price up to obscene greedy amount. Especially those from websites like clubmodel etc. The girl I use to meet for 1500 for 1 day wants 3k reais for 1 day when I asked, and also many other instances. Also they had no indication that I was foreign as I was using a Brazilian phone for whatsapp, and a friend of mine is fluent in portuguese. 1 other girl I asked wants 5k for 1 day. Crazy. In connection club, got one for 1200 who said will stay for as long as I want her there. I thought of going to a nice motel, but decided against it and stayed in my hotel. One hour later told me she needs to go home with excuses of the doorman and people in her apartment seeing her. Tried to trick me as I was not fluent in portuguese, but was firm and told her what was promised should be kept. Finally stayed till the next morning.
My experience is very different from most of you. Since this pandemic, the girls has been jacking price up to obscene greedy amount. Especially those from websites like clubmodel etc. The girl I use to meet for 1500 for 1 day wants 3k reais for 1 day when I asked, and also many other instances. Also they had no indication that I was foreign as I was using a Brazilian phone for whatsapp, and a friend of mine is fluent in portuguese. 1 other girl I asked wants 5k for 1 day. Crazy. In connection club, got one for 1200 who said will stay for as long as I want her there. I thought of going to a nice motel, but decided against it and stayed in my hotel. One hour later told me she needs to go home with excuses of the doorman and people in her apartment seeing her. Tried to trick me as I was not fluent in portuguese, but was firm and told her what was promised should be kept. Finally stayed till the next morning.I live in Sao Paulo, was throwing a birthday party in August. My mistake was planning it with this Iranian guy I used to work with here 4 years. He contacted 2 girls on Photoaccomphantes.com. When they showed up I immediately got a bad vibe. They weren't the same girls from the website.
Also they wanted Brl $2.5K for the night, each. When we had agreed on Brl $750 each for 6 hours on Whatsapp. Told them both to get the fuck out of my apartment before I called the police. Then the bitches had the audacity to ask me to pay for their Uber. Later I realised one of the girls had stolen my backup old iPhone and some cash I had in a dish on the counter. I used my Find my IPhone app to locate the phone. It's somewhere in Baurei. I disabled it, it was an iPhone 5 with only one more update.
Get this the Iranian dude acts like he had nothing to do with it. He lives a few blocks from me, I haven't answered his calls or returned his emails since. Talk about a lying, gaslighting, backstabbing SOB! SMDH!
Another girl who was a regular of mine from Blue Night Show. We'd go to Savoy, order some pizza, drink a couple bottles of vino and spend the evening for Brl $500/ night. After the pandemic hit she would quote me Brl $1000 for the same time. And Brl $2000 to stop by my place when in the past she only wanted Brl $500. Found out her boyfriend (the manager at Blue Night Show) was telling her to do it.
Also found out she's pregnant by him. Now I'm just waiting for her to say the kid is mine!
Moral of the story: Be careful who you hang out with and who you let into your house!
I live in Sao Paulo, was throwing a birthday party in August. My mistake was planning it with this Iranian guy I used to work with here 4 years. He contacted 2 girls on Photoaccomphantes.com. When they showed up I immediately got a bad vibe. They weren't the same girls from the website.
Also they wanted Brl $2.5K for the night, each. When we had agreed on Brl $750 each for 6 hours on Whatsapp. Told them both to get the fuck out of my apartment before I called the police. Then the bitches had the audacity to ask me to pay for their Uber. Later I realised one of the girls had stolen my backup old iPhone and some cash I had in a dish on the counter. I used my Find my IPhone app to locate the phone. It's somewhere in Baurei. I disabled it, it was an iPhone 5 with only one more update.
Get this the Iranian dude acts like he had nothing to do with it. He lives a few blocks from me, I haven't answered his calls or returned his emails since. Talk about a lying, gaslighting, backstabbing SOB! SMDH!
Another girl who was a regular of mine from Blue Night Show. We'd go to Savoy, order some pizza, drink a couple bottles of vino and spend the evening for Brl $500/ night. After the pandemic hit she would quote me Brl $1000 for the same time. And Brl $2000 to stop by my place when in the past she only wanted Brl $500. Found out her boyfriend (the manager at Blue Night Show) was telling her to do it.
Also found out she's pregnant by him. Now I'm just waiting for her to say the kid is mine!
Moral of the story: Be careful who you hang out with and who you let into your house!I had actually recently talked to Rovnak about how to approach the escort game recently. He had mentioned that Photo as of late has been taking a turn for the worst. I had also read his escort vetting guide that has some guidelines on how to screen escorts off of Photo (to the best of our ability that is).
1. Filter escorts to those that have verified reviews.
2. Pro Instagram style photos are usually a bait and switch sign. Amateur unbrushed up pics are a better sign save for the very high end escorts that can be verified via their twitters.
3. Verify authenticity via Twitter if they have one or GP.
4. Always ask for face verification. Video call would be best, but maybe having the escort put up a sign of some sort visible within the same frame as her face could be alright.
5. Some posts are just too good to be true. If she's a 9/10 - 10/10 she's probably not going for that posted 200 BRreals.
Apologies to Rovnak if I butchered his guide, but they seem like very solid guidelines. I will be testing them out during my trip at the start of next year because I will be extensively seeing escorts.
Any suggestion on Boete for Monday or Tuesday nights?
In town until next week so PM if anyone interested for a beer.
Any suggestion on Boete for Monday or Tuesday nights?
In town until next week so PM if anyone interested for a beer.It's not looking good here man! 65% of restaurants, bars, nightlife are closed and what's open closes early like 10 pm.
Mongerdude247
10-28-20, 03:58
Hey all,
Going down in Dec and have a ton of questions. LOL. What are the best chicha\guest friendly hotels in Jardin's sao paolo area? Would I be able to have a few girls or shemales visit throughout the day? Also I googled "acompanahantes sao paolo" and got a ton of results (p. A. \skokka\model etc) with prices in 150-300 BR. Are these prices the usual and which ones are best legit for trans and reg girls? Going down with some people who like to club, anyone know if the party scene is a bust in Sao Paulo right now cause of covid? ABG or other pros, if you could share some info on the best safe brothels for day action and typical prices would be much appreciated. First time going. Don't want to f**k up the market and over pay like a noob. Stay safe pplz.
Hey all,
Going down in Dec and have a ton of questions. LOL. What are the best chicha\guest friendly hotels in Jardin's sao paolo area? Would I be able to have a few girls or shemales visit throughout the day?
Forum rules: "No Discussion about Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males. This website is about sex between men who were always men and women who were always women. Any person violating this policy will banned immediately."
Exec Talent
10-28-20, 13:38
Hey all,
Going down in Dec and have a ton of questions. LOL. What are the best chicha\guest friendly hotels in Jardin's sao paolo area? Would I be able to have a few girls or shemales visit throughout the day? Also I googled "acompanahantes sao paolo" and got a ton of results (p. A. \skokka\model etc) with prices in 150-300 BR. Are these prices the usual and which ones are best legit for trans and reg girls? Going down with some people who like to club, anyone know if the party scene is a bust in Sao Paulo right now cause of covid? ABG or other pros, if you could share some info on the best safe brothels for day action and typical prices would be much appreciated. First time going. Don't want to f**k up the market and over pay like a noob. Stay safe pplz.ABG passed away which you would know if you had bothered to read the forum.
Suggest this is just another reincarnation of the the loser who likes to stir things up.
These are the kind of first time posts that should be ignored.
I live in Sao Paulo, was throwing a birthday party in August. My mistake was planning it with this Iranian guy I used to work with here 4 years. He contacted 2 girls on Photoaccomphantes.com. When they showed up I immediately got a bad vibe. They weren't the same girls from the website.
Also they wanted Brl $2.5K for the night, each. When we had agreed on Brl $750 each for 6 hours on Whatsapp. Told them both to get the fuck out of my apartment before I called the police. Then the bitches had the audacity to ask me to pay for their Uber. Later I realised one of the girls had stolen my backup old iPhone and some cash I had in a dish on the counter. I used my Find my IPhone app to locate the phone. It's somewhere in Baurei. I disabled it, it was an iPhone 5 with only one more update.
Get this the Iranian dude acts like he had nothing to do with it. He lives a few blocks from me, I haven't answered his calls or returned his emails since. Talk about a lying, gaslighting, backstabbing SOB! SMDH!
Another girl who was a regular of mine from Blue Night Show. We'd go to Savoy, order some pizza, drink a couple bottles of vino and spend the evening for Brl $500/ night. After the pandemic hit she would quote me Brl $1000 for the same time. And Brl $2000 to stop by my place when in the past she only wanted Brl $500. Found out her boyfriend (the manager at Blue Night Show) was telling her to do it.Thing is, I have been with this girl twice and she stayed with me full days at the same price. Only when covid happens this changes. Also tried asking this girl Juli Moraeis or Pamela from barravip who use to be in SP now in Rio how much to come to me. My luck the pretty ones are always not in the same city as me when I want to meet them. She wanted 6 k for 1 whole day. LOL. Ridiculous. I'm afraid prices are going to be jacked up sky high with all this new people finding out about the gems of Brazil. Its already happening with people tipping GP when there is no need to. Pretty soon, this will be very unaffordable. Those tippers need to learn to stop tipping.
Since the passing of AltoBomGosto in January, has anyone stepped up to offer wingman service?
First time in Brazil for ten days with round trip to / from São Paulo. As suggested by others, I'm thinking of splitting time between Rio and São Paulo. I land at GRU at 8:30 am and am looking at options to pop my Brazil cherry in São Paulo before heading to Rio through CGH that same day. If I get flight out of CGH at 4 pm, what recommendations do others have to allow me have some daytime fun. I'll have my luggage with me so need to factor that in. Thanks in advance for suggestions. If I can assist with Colombia or Thailand info in return, just ask via PM.
Jimmy Boy 99
10-31-20, 23:35
First time in Brazil for ten days with round trip to / from So Paulo. As suggested by others, I'm thinking of splitting time between Rio and So Paulo. I land at GRU at 8:30 am and am looking at options to pop my Brazil cherry in So Paulo before heading to Rio through CGH that same day. If I get flight out of CGH at 4 pm, what recommendations do others have to allow me have some daytime fun. I'll have my luggage with me so need to factor that in. Thanks in advance for suggestions. If I can assist with Colombia or Thailand info in return, just ask via PM.If you arrive GRU at 8:30 AM and take a taxi you should be in Moema by 10 AM, when many of the clinicas open, and you will have to leave for CGH by 2:30 PM, so that will give you max 4. 5 hours in Sao Paulo, which is hardly splitting your time between Sao Paulo and Rio. However, there a number of clinicas in Moema (Enjoy, Miruna, Moema Prime, Red Massagem, Abbobora) as well as Brooklin (Brooklin. Morumbi, Cancionero, and Kin) that you can Uber to, although the lineups might be sparse that early.
FRobertson
11-01-20, 03:59
If you arrive GRU at 8:30 AM and take a taxi you should be in Moema by 10 AM, when many of the clinicas open, and you will have to leave for CGH by 2:30 PM, so that will give you max 4. 5 hours in Sao Paulo, which is hardly splitting your time between Sao Paulo and Rio. However, there a number of clinicas in Moema (Enjoy, Miruna, Moema Prime, Red Massagem, Abbobora) as well as Brooklin (Brooklin. Morumbi, Cancionero, and Kin) that you can Uber to, although the lineups might be sparse that early.Tbh CGH is about 15 minutes tops from the clinicas area in Moema, and especially on a weekend. The airport is very fast and efficient, so if he has no bags to check, he can show up 45 minutes before the flight and have plenty of time for pao de queso and coffee. If he does have bags to check though that's a different story. I don't think anything in Moema will be open at 10 though. Generally even when they say they open at 11, the girls don't start showing up until 12-1. Only Tangara would be open at 10.
A better idea would be to at least overnight in Sao Paulo and go to Rio next evening.
I was in Sao paulo from 10/13 -10/26 and had an amazing time. One of the concierge guys at Scandallo dubbed me the gentleman for how I would usher te girls I was not interested in away LOL. I went to Scandalol twice. Both visits there and two girls who I met at Abobborra who later visited me at my hotel were the highlight of my trip. Everything about the setup in Scandallo was really impressive. I've never been to an establishment like that before so the first visit was exciting as hell. I even joked around with the security guards a bit they were so cool. I think the first timer look on me was the key. The ladies, security, room cleaning staff guys to me all seem to be a team. I did a thressome at Scandallo and the guys who clean / monitor the rooms clapped as we walked in. Funny stuff. They def make you want to come back. Definitely an experience I will never forget.
The threesome itself was good and had some funny moments. As a tandem they definitely had a routine. MILF and 26 yr old combination. I do not remeber the name of the MILF but the other girl I really liked was Cintia. I was sitting at the bar and they both approached me with their song and dance. I just cut to the chase and asked how much for both. We get to the room, shower together and the games begin round 1 finishing with sex with cintia. I shower for round two with the MILF (whose name I forget). God bless her for trying but she couldn't fit me and she was trying so hard I was laughing too much to even finish with her. It wasn't a big deal but she was embarrassed. I dunno it was fun for me. Cintia hopped on top and fucked my brains out again before we wrapped up. My 2nd visit I actually went to the room again with Cintia, went to the gardenarea and met another girl from Minas Gerais I just had to have and left with another girl named Talita.
I chatted up Octavio who was one of the concierge guys there. Awesome fellow. He practiced his english with me and vice versa. I saw him talking with Talita and I went over and I flat out asked her how much for her to leave with me right now. It was about 4 am. 15 minutes later I'm in the passenger side of her car on the way to my hotel. A little ball of energy this girl was. Full of tats but to be honest you could tell in 1 sec she would be an awesome time. We get to my hotel she showers, we get to business. I order room service and we go again. I have a bit of work to do so she goes to sleep. She wakes up, we shower go again and she leaves. Very funny girl, a wild cat in the bed and just a good time all around. My first visit to Sao Paulo in 2019 I didn't do the Scandallo visit but I'm glad I did this time. Definitely a treat yourself experience.
I also reconnected with some of the high end escorts I met last year. Rebecca Caetano, Yasmine Piovane were awesome as usual. Rebecca Mendoza Aguillar is an escort I found on twitter. It was so amazing with her I saw her twice. From Rebecca's twitter she seems very reserved and she definitely begins by taking control of the session with her massage routine but once I started returning the favor, good lord have mercy. Best sex I've ever had and the second visit was even better. I had a hit list from twitter and I saw them all. Ill elaborate on those with my next post.
In regards to the Clinicas Abobbora did not disappoint. (my favorite) Clinica red and Miruna did not disappoint either.
Jimmy Boy 99
11-01-20, 05:12
Tbh CGH is about 15 minutes tops from the clinicas area in Moema, and especially on a weekend. The airport is very fast and efficient, so if he has no bags to check, he can show up 45 minutes before the flight and have plenty of time for pao de queso and coffee. If he does have bags to check though that's a different story. I don't think anything in Moema will be open at 10 though. Generally even when they say they open at 11, the girls don't start showing up until 12-1. Only Tangara would be open at 10.
A better idea would be to at least overnight in Sao Paulo and go to Rio next evening.If he arrives on a weekday, these are the hours these clinicas are supposedly open (could not find opening hours for Miruna and Cancionero):
Brooklin 11 AM.
Kin 10 AM.
Abbobora 12 PM.
Morumbi 10 AM.
Enjoy 10 AM.
Moema Prime 10 AM.
Red 11 AM.
As noted, the lineups will be sparse at opening. If he comes on a weekend, he's fucked, since they open later.
I was in Sao paulo from 10/13 -10/26 and had an amazing time. One of the concierge guys at Scandallo dubbed me the gentleman for how I would usher te girls I was not interested in away LOL. I went to Scandalol twice. Both visits there and two girls who I met at Abobborra who later visited me at my hotel were the highlight of my trip. Everything about the setup in Scandallo was really impressive. I've never been to an establishment like that before so the first visit was exciting as hell. I even joked around with the security guards a bit they were so cool. I think the first timer look on me was the key. The ladies, security, room cleaning staff guys to me all seem to be a team. I did a thressome at Scandallo and the guys who clean / monitor the rooms clapped as we walked in. Funny stuff. They def make you want to come back. Definitely an experience I will never forget.
The threesome itself was good and had some funny moments. As a tandem they definitely had a routine. MILF and 26 yr old combination. I do not remeber the name of the MILF but the other girl I really liked was Cintia. I was sitting at the bar and they both approached me with their song and dance. I just cut to the chase and asked how much for both. We get to the room, shower together and the games begin round 1 finishing with sex with cintia. I shower for round two with the MILF (whose name I forget). God bless her for trying but she couldn't fit me and she was trying so hard I was laughing too much to even finish with her. It wasn't a big deal but she was embarrassed. I dunno it was fun for me. Cintia hopped on top and fucked my brains out again before we wrapped up. My 2nd visit I actually went to the room again with Cintia, went to the gardenarea and met another girl from Minas Gerais I just had to have and left with another girl named Talita.
I chatted up Octavio who was one of the concierge guys there. Awesome fellow. He practiced his english with me and vice versa. I saw him talking with Talita and I went over and I flat out asked her how much for her to leave with me right now. It was about 4 am. 15 minutes later I'm in the passenger side of her car on the way to my hotel. A little ball of energy this girl was. Full of tats but to be honest you could tell in 1 sec she would be an awesome time. We get to my hotel she showers, we get to business. I order room service and we go again. I have a bit of work to do so she goes to sleep. She wakes up, we shower go again and she leaves. Very funny girl, a wild cat in the bed and just a good time all around. My first visit to Sao Paulo in 2019 I didn't do the Scandallo visit but I'm glad I did this time. Definitely a treat yourself experience.
I also reconnected with some of the high end escorts I met last year. Rebecca Caetano, Yasmine Piovane were awesome as usual. Rebecca Mendoza Aguillar is an escort I found on twitter. It was so amazing with her I saw her twice. From Rebecca's twitter she seems very reserved and she definitely begins by taking control of the session with her massage routine but once I started returning the favor, good lord have mercy. Best sex I've ever had and the second visit was even better. I had a hit list from twitter and I saw them all. Ill elaborate on those with my next post.
In regards to the Clinicas Abobbora did not disappoint. (my favorite) Clinica red and Miruna did not disappoint either.Good to read that action in Brazil is about back to normal. Probably the first in the world. So sad I cannot be there yet.
FRobertson
11-01-20, 14:47
I was in Sao paulo from 10/13 -10/26 and had an amazing time..Thank you for sharing!
How's the city doing in general? Restaurants, stores, the general vibe?
FRobertson
11-01-20, 15:37
Kcrl01: Your inbox is full.
Thank you for sharing!
How's the city doing in general? Restaurants, stores, the general vibe?Like covid doesn't exist, people are out and about with crowded places. Restaurants have to close at 10 pm. Outdoor bars / kiosks stay open. Malls closes early.
Some parts on Brazil may have herd immunity now the new number of cases have gone down but getting reinfection is still possible.
If he comes on a weekend, he's fucked....Or not!! He he!
YippieKayay
11-01-20, 21:04
Gents,
Thanks for posting the recent reports and news on new places opening up. This thread is great.
Have prices changed much over the last couple of years with the BRL taking a nose dive? I was there two years ago and was paying between 200 to 350 depending on the session for hookers in clubs or back at the hotel. I frequented Casarao, and one brothel where it was about 150 BRL for an hour. Are those prices about right? I noticed in a recent post Cafe Photo charges twice that.
Gents,
Thanks for posting the recent reports and news on new places opening up. This thread is great.
Have prices changed much over the last couple of years with the BRL taking a nose dive? I was there two years ago and was paying between 200 to 350 depending on the session for hookers in clubs or back at the hotel. I frequented Casarao, and one brothel where it was about 150 BRL for an hour. Are those prices about right? I noticed in a recent post Cafe Photo charges twice that.Cafe Photo is still closed, reopening at a new location. High end places the going price is about 500-800 R per HR depending on the girl.
Gents,
Thanks for posting the recent reports and news on new places opening up. This thread is great.
Have prices changed much over the last couple of years with the BRL taking a nose dive? I was there two years ago and was paying between 200 to 350 depending on the session for hookers in clubs or back at the hotel. I frequented Casarao, and one brothel where it was about 150 BRL for an hour. Are those prices about right? I noticed in a recent post Cafe Photo charges twice that.I'm in SP now.
My favorite girls are the sweeties I meet at the cheap venues around town.
To them 300 reais is a lot!
And they can be so sweet.
I'm a VM type guy in Rio, and though I hit the Termas, mostly because friends want to go, I find the best girls for me anyway, at the less fancy places. Just my style.
I hit Scandallo on Saturday night out of curiosity, and because Casarao is closed, lol.
I’d been there a couple times before.
300 reais to get in, I arrived at about 9 pm. 150 consumable.
I know guys rave about the place, to me though, it's just a fancy place with mostly regular looking girls, wanting to charge way too much, LOL.
Since I was there, I decided to partake.
I chose my favorite one there. She asked for 800, I told her I've got 500, she said ok.
Plus the room was like 220 or so.
She was cute, ok, a bit mechanical for me, and not worth the 1000 real plus, including the entrance.
I'll admit the place itself is nice, fancy, upscale.
I know some guys dig that. Just not me.
Yesterday, Sunday, I had over my little morena I met in Centro.
Stayed all day, great sex, sweet, fun, great chemistry.
I gave her 400 reais and she squealed happy.
Today I'm heading downtown again, do some exploring for new girls.
I'll walk up Augusta in the evening and see what's happening there.
I met an Uber guy leaving Scandallo the other night.
Said he knew some cool night clubs with GDP fun, with much easier pricing than Scandallo, and I may let him show me around.
Play it by ear, depends on how the day goes.
I can call him another night if needed.
Always good to explore.
Bad exchange rate on the euro at money-changers. The best I could get was 6. 25 at the money-gram exchange at av. Paulista 807 (shop 35). Most changers will give appalling rates, as low as 5. 2, on bigger denominations (200- and 500-euro banknotes). This is the opposite to Thailand, where big denominations were favoured. Interbank rate is 1 euro = 6.7 R.
Sagami 00.2 condoms are sold under the brand Preserv Premium at Drogarai pharmacies. DHEA and Minoxidil to be had online only without prescription.
Doubletree Hilton Itaim was girlfriendly. So was Etoile Hotel Itaim (rua Pedroso Alvarenga).
I had 4 good, albeit expensive visits at Scandallo. Visit number 5 was on Friday and I left at once, the place was full of dudes, at least 8 dudes to a girl. The food at Scandallo was abysmal. Girls at Scandallo asked between 800 and 1000 and could be talked down to 600 or 500. Add a cover charge of 150 before 7 pm and 230 for the room. Expensive.
Girls in most clinicas were few and average. Exceptions were Miruna, Abbobora and Prime where some girls were as good as Scandallo's. One hour 180 R at Prime, similar pricing in all clinicas. Cheap. GP Brazilian website unreliable as to reviewing of clinicas, at least as far as girl quality was concerned.
All the same, SP a better place to be than 99% of places on this Earth right now. May apply for an extension of stay with the policia federal in early December given the mess back home.
FRobertson
11-02-20, 21:22
I'm in SP now.
My favorite girls are the sweeties I meet at the cheap venues around town.
Thank you for the wonderful report.
Glad you're having a good time. How's the vibe in general?
Also, how exactly do you meet the sweeties at the cheap venues?
I'm planning another trip hopefully some time soon, and I haven't had an overnighter yet. And it's nice to wake up next to a warm, soft girl.
YippieKayay
11-02-20, 22:57
Bad exchange rate on the euro at money-changers. The best I could get was 6. 25 at the money-gram exchange at av. Paulista 807 (shop 35). Most changers will give appalling rates, as low as 5. 2, on bigger denominations (200- and 500-euro banknotes). This is the opposite to Thailand, where big denominations were favoured. Interbank rate is 1 euro = 6.7 R.
How is the rate at airport arrivals? Just as bad?
How is the rate at airport arrivals? Just as bad?They gave just under 6 for one 100-euro note, something like 5. 8.
Only good news, a fellow ISG member I met in SP told me he could make 2500 R withdrawals on his credit card at Bradesco. I haven't put this to the test yet.
They gave just under 6 for one 100-euro note, something like 5. 8.
Only good news, a fellow ISG member I met in SP told me he could make 2500 R withdrawals on his credit card at Bradesco. I haven't put this to the test yet.This is accurate. The Bradesco bank I used had a machine that gave a withdrawal limit of 2500.
Steve 9696
11-03-20, 01:12
They gave just under 6 for one 100-euro note, something like 5. 8.
Only good news, a fellow ISG member I met in SP told me he could make 2500 R withdrawals on his credit card at Bradesco. I haven't put this to the test yet.I know we all want our best deal but a year ago it was 4:1. Let's count our blessings guys. It's amazing to get Brasileiras at this price. No better deal on the planet.
They gave just under 6 for one 100-euro note, something like 5. 8.
Only good news, a fellow ISG member I met in SP told me he could make 2500 R withdrawals on his credit card at Bradesco. I haven't put this to the test yet.Not with credit card, with ATM / Debit card.
They gave just under 6 for one 100-euro note, something like 5. 8.
Only good news, a fellow ISG member I met in SP told me he could make 2500 R withdrawals on his credit card at Bradesco. I haven't put this to the test yet.Don't exchange USD / EUR in Sao Paulo. The cambios charge around 7-10% commission. Best is to use CC. At Bradesco you can withdraw up to 2500 BRL. Rate depends on your credit card / bank. I get the official visa rate with no commission. Various daily withdrawals possible. Bradesco ATMs do not have ATM fees.
YippieKayay
11-03-20, 02:37
Don't exchange USD / EUR in Sao Paulo. The cambios charge around 7-10% commission. Best is to use CC. At Bradesco you can withdraw up to 2500 BRL. Rate depends on your credit card / bank. I get the official visa rate with no commission. Various daily withdrawals possible. Bradesco ATMs do not have ATM fees.Thanks Safado (LOL). It's the same as Colombia then. I did notice in Mexico I got a GREAT rate at the cambio landing in Cancun but shit everywhere else.
Not with credit card, with ATM / Debit card.So not with Visa or Master? I thought debit cards were cards for domestic use only. I have an EU debit card (Mestro/Cirrus) but the fees on ATM withdrawals abroad are prohibitive.
So not with Visa or Master? I thought debit cards were cards for domestic use only. I have an EU debit card (Mestro/Cirrus) but the fees on ATM withdrawals abroad are prohibitive.Check it with your institution. Actually, with Maestro you may have to pay less on foreign exchange conversion, like 1. 5% and it's not available for me, as I pay Visa (debit or credit, does not matter) 2. 5% over XE rate. Use Bradesco. Keep in mind there is no Bradesco ATM at GRU airport.
Keep in mind there is no Bradesco ATM at GRU airport.That's not correct. There are Bradesco ATMs at GRU.
So not with Visa or Master? I thought debit cards were cards for domestic use only. I have an EU debit card (Mestro/Cirrus) but the fees on ATM withdrawals abroad are prohibitive.In United States Charles Schwab Bank debit card has no foreign transactions fees and in UK Starling Bank is the same.
I've been using the 24 Horas ATMs and the Bradesco ATMs. They work well. No fees charged here or by my bank (Citi). My debit card is accepted everywhere and the rates aren't bad. No need for changing money because Reais are so accessible. I'm off to Canada today and returning in December. They've made it so easy to enter and the flights are empty I don't want to the winter in Canada.
So not with Visa or Master? I thought debit cards were cards for domestic use only. I have an EU debit card (Mestro/Cirrus) but the fees on ATM withdrawals abroad are prohibitive.
In United States Charles Schwab Bank debit card has no foreign transactions fees and in UK Starling Bank is the same.Ok, in EU you wouldn't call transaction free cards debit cards. What is offered is credit cards (usually visa) without transaction fees on ATM withdrawals.
Some banks offer Visa and Master cards with a limited number of transactions free withdrawals, eg 25 withdrawal p. a. without transaction fees. I guess the transaction fee free package is thrown in as a sales pitch by the bank. Such cards usually have a high yearly fixed cost, typically 150 to 180 euros. They come with all kinds of useless insurances.
The only fully DEBIT card with a transaction fee free package in Europe that I know of is Revolut. But the transaction fee free amount with Revolut is limited to 200 euro a month. Peanuts.
What is Charles Schwab Bank's business model? Do they give a less good exchange rate?
FRobertson
11-04-20, 15:35
That's not correct. There are Bradesco ATMs at GRU.WHERE?
Last time I was there, I looked all over, and couldn't find one. I'd love to be able to get some cash at the airport next time I'm in town.
WHERE?
Last time I was there, I looked all over, and couldn't find one. I'd love to be able to get some cash at the airport next time I'm in town.Terminal 2. If you have problem finding just ask some of the airport staff.
Ok, in EU you wouldn't call transaction free cards debit cards. What is offered is credit cards (usually visa) without transaction fees on ATM withdrawals.
Some banks offer Visa and Master cards with a limited number of transactions free withdrawals, eg 25 withdrawal p. a. without transaction fees. I guess the transaction fee free package is thrown in as a sales pitch by the bank. Such cards usually have a high yearly fixed cost, typically 150 to 180 euros. They come with all kinds of useless insurances.
The only fully DEBIT card with a transaction fee free package in Europe that I know of is Revolut. But the transaction fee free amount with Revolut is limited to 200 euro a month. Peanuts.
What is Charles Schwab Bank's business model? Do they give a less good exchange rate?The exchange rate is set by the ATM you are using for the transaction.
Starling Bank is similar to Revolut but has no limit on free withdrawals (but you do pay local ATM fees) and better customer service, they have both Pounds Sterling and Euro accounts, Charles Schwab is only dollars but has no limit, no fees and credits back to your account any local fees charged by the bank ATM you used.
WHERE?
Last time I was there, I looked all over, and couldn't find one. I'd love to be able to get some cash at the airport next time I'm in town.3rd floor next to the Starbucks.
Avoid Banco24 horas ATM, worst exchange rates I ever got.
FRobertson
11-04-20, 18:23
Terminal 2. If you have problem finding just ask some of the airport staff.Okay I found the reference on the website:
BANCO BRADESCO.
Terminal 2 - Mezzanine – Check-in E.
https://www.gru.com.br/en/passenger/discover-gru/services-and-facilities/banks
The exchange rate is set by the ATM you are using for the transaction.
.With my credit cards the exchange rate is the Visa or Master exchange rate, except if you fall into the trap of accepting withdrawal in foreign currency instead of local currency. So I withdraw for example 1000 R, and Visa or Master applies their (good) exchange rate to that back home to convert the 1000 R into euros. No shenanigans with ATM rates or such likes. Maybe it's different in Brazil though, I still have to test Brazilian ATMs. My experience is chiefly with ATMs in Africa.
I am, though, buying things in Sao Paulo with my credit card every day and the exchange rate is the official Visa exchange rate (with 1.75% foreign transaction fee in my case alas).
Power cut today, so we had to get by with one candle and the girl's smartphone and mine as light sources. I was surprised by the pricing system here. I was asked to pay 110 R upfront at reception so I thought this must be a discount price because of the power outage. However, the girl asked for an additional 150 in the room, saying that her money was kept separate from the house's money. This is the first instance of dual payment in a clinica. Prime clinica was 180 R, so cheaper than Abbobora's 150 + 110.
FRobertson
11-04-20, 19:17
Power cut today, so we had to get by with one candle and the girl's smartphone and mine as light sources. I was surprised by the pricing system here. I was asked to pay 110 R upfront at reception so I thought this must be a discount price because of the power outage. However, the girl asked for an additional 150 in the room, saying that her money was kept separate from the house's money. This is the first instance of dual payment in a clinica. Prime clinica was 180 R, so cheaper than Abbobora's 150 + 110.Yes this is normal, Abbobora is like that but the default there is 1 hour, not 30 minutes. And she will spend the full hour with you. In Prime, I think, you get 30 minutes by default.
That's not correct. There are Bradesco ATMs at GRU.You are right, but then I land in International Terminal 3, and T2 is more a domestic one.
You are right, but then I land in International Terminal 3, and T2 is more a domestic one.So do I, but it's only a quick walk.
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