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The Critic
11-05-20, 07:49
Okay I found the reference on the website:

BANCO BRADESCO.

Terminal 2 - Mezzanine Check-in E.

https://www.gru.com.br/en/passenger/discover-gru/services-and-facilities/banksThanks good follow-up posting link. Good to know Bradesco is in airport. Video as soon as it starts Bradesco lower LEFT https://youtu.be/li3VvqeK0Dg?t=134

Also one in city Avendia Paulista 2016 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Av.+Paulista,+2016+-+Bela+Vista,+S%C3%A3o+Paulo+-+SP,+01310-200,+Brazil/@-23.5588573,-46.6592586,3a,75y,44.52h,87.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfofdcj8mrXfgd4BNNGpCWw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x94ce582d59bddf9b:0x3bf88731ad618ccb!8m2!3d-23.5582856!4d-46.6594582

Turgid
11-05-20, 13:43
I have found taxis from the airport to Moema very expensive. In my last trip October last year I actually took the train but it was very inconvenient with luggage and won't do it again.

FRobertson
11-05-20, 15:06
I have found taxis from the airport to Moema very expensive. In my last trip October last year I actually took the train but it was very inconvenient with luggage and won't do it again.I've paid 50-60 reais for Uber each time I went to the airport and back.

PussyRiot
11-06-20, 04:56
Because of Covid, deciding on the trip was not an easy decision but been working every day for past ten months and just needed it. This was my first time in Sao Paulo and wanted to make this trip report for any newbies visiting this city in near future. You can also check out my trip reports for Rio, Medellin, Cali, Panama City as well.

General.

Mosquitos- Had a same issue in Rio but if you are staying in Airbnb apt with open window balcony, make sure to buy a mosquito spray the first day and spray all over the place (especially the curtain area next to balcony door). Woke up after first night and was raped by these little bastards.

Area of stay- Stayed in Vila Olimpia area where it is considered one of high-end neighborhood. Beautiful skyscrapers and felt safe during all hours and highly recommend.

Travel insurance- Purchased the travel insurance from Seven Corner https://www.sevencorners.com/ Make sure to pick the plan under Liaison Travel Plus which covers the Covid medical bills and cost was only about $20 for the whole week.

Flight- My return scheduled flight changed two times during my stay and make sure to check the emails from the air carrier. Understand that time is different, but it would be suck going to airport not knowing the flight has been cancelled.

Copy of passport- Make sure to make a copy of passport so you can use as ID. When entering Scandallo or visiting escorts, front desk usually asks for ID and this makes a huge convenience instead of carrying the actual passport.

Clinica- Highly recommend both Miruna and Abbbora which they are close by around the corners. Miruna and Clinica Brooklin are open on Sundays and expect many guys at the waiting room. It seems all Moema clinicas are charging R230 per HR. And Abbbora will ask R260 for certain girls. Had a little Clinica run with member XXL and one of laughable moment was at Palms Clinica which supposed to be the high-end place with R300 per HR. At Palms, there isn't any girl presentation in person, but you can check out the available girls by using the tablets. It was just funny since the girls from the tablet weren't all that attractive. If I had more time, might of went back to session since the place looked high-end and located in Vila Olimpia where I was staying.

Scandallo- Finally, all these years of hearing about this place and it exceeded my expectation as for the venue goes. Everything was more that I have imagined except for the girl quality. I was expecting all the same quality girls from Instagram that I follow but was disappointed. There weren't any stunners and few pretty ones were always busy with other customers. And, noticed many Asian customers where it was kind of surprising (I know Sao Paulo has major asian population but wow). During my week stay, visited three times and saw many of same girls. On Saturday before 7 pm, entry was R200 instead of normal R150. It has been discussed many times, but pricing before 7 pm, R150 entry (all goes towards to consumption), Room R230 and girls asking R500 to 800. During my visits, the girls accepted R400 happily which was somewhat surprising since heard price was a bit higher.

Connection- This place was too far from where I was staying, almost 40 minutes by Uber. Certainly, more partier vibe than Scandallo. Members mentioned about same owner from Scandallo owning the place and it is probably true since the rooms are identical (all button control setting). If I can remember correctly, the entry was R50, room R120 and girls were asking R300-500. The girls were doable and think it is worthy of visit. The club also have card tables and many people were playing in the back of club with proper chips.

Bahamas Club- Smaller club in Moema. The place is somewhat old and laidback but it was kept in good shape and classy where it reminds of old high-end hotel in New York. There weren't many girls and didn't see any 9-10's. Session with big tits girl there and saw the same girl again at Scandallo next two nights. Since Connection and Scandallo were only place available to my knowledge, wasn't a bad idea to check this place out. Similar to Scandallo price except for entry fee which was too confusing where I just paid R150.

Negative- Not sure why but many of girls had a foul odor smell from their pussy. You do not smell it until change of sex position (touched on the condom to confirm the smell). This happened way too many times even with the girl from Scandallo. This was complete turn off.

Final thought- The trip was decent even with Covid situation. Surprisingly, everyone in Sao Paulo always wear a mask which made me felt safe and the city showed a lot wealth which was different from Rio. There were many fancy cars and people popping bottles at Scandallo and other clubs. As many members will advise, splitting the days between Rio and Sao Paulo isn't a bad idea. Just note that even with killer currency, you will spend some money when visiting night spots such as Scandallo and connection on a nightly basis. If you are thinking about making the trip, just do it.

BPalacio
11-06-20, 10:59
So I have talked privately with some vets of both Rio and SP about the differences and it seems like SP has Rio beat when it comes to mongering. Seems like the amount of women is larger in SP at the very least. With that being said, some have said that the ambiance of Rio is more laid back and enjoyable than SP. As someone who enjoys darker skinned women, I also asked if Rio has a greater selection of negras and mulattas. I had mixed responses, as some said yes and some said that SP has enough to whet my appetite.

Can the guys who have experience in both SP and Rio speak a bit about the advantages and disadvantages between the two? Would it be worth splitting time between the two cities if I only had about a week to spend? Would it be worth choosing Rio over SP if I'm chasing negras and mulattas?

XXL
11-06-20, 11:09
Negative- Not sure why but many of girls had a foul odor smell from their pussy. You do not smell it until change of sex position (touched on the condom to confirm the smell). This happened way too many times even with the girl from Scandallo. This was complete turn off.

Hello buddy, glad you made it home safe. Some plausible explanation for the smell problem could be:

1) No butt spray like in Asia.

2) Showers without any hand-held shower head. The water comes from above and you need to do a headstand if you want your nether parts thoroughly doused.

I favour number 2 as an explanation. Smell has not been a problem for me as I am not at all fussy in that department.

The Cane
11-06-20, 12:31
Hello buddy, glad you made it home safe. Some plausible explanation for the smell problem could be:

1) No butt spray like in Asia.

2) Showers without any hand-held shower head. The water comes from above and you need to do a headstand if you want your nether parts thoroughly doused.

I favour number 2 as an explanation. Smell has not been a problem for me as I am not at all fussy in that department.Never had a problem with foul smelling girls in Brazil ever. So don't know what that was about. Also, with COVID still on the March, the quality of the girls could be down, with only the most desperate and hard up for cash willing to take a chance and keep working in the clubs.

Member #4698
11-06-20, 14:35
Because of Covid, deciding on the trip was not an easy decision but been working every day for past ten months and just needed it. This was my first time in Sao Paulo and wanted to make this trip report for any newbies visiting this city in near future. You can also check out my trip reports for Rio, Medellin, Cali, Panama City as well.

General.

Copy of passport- Make sure to make a copy of passport so you can use as ID. When entering Scandallo or visiting escorts, front desk usually asks for ID and this makes a huge convenience instead of carrying the actual passport.

Clinica- Highly recommend both Miruna and Abbbora which they are close by around the corners. Miruna and Clinica Brooklin are open on Sundays and expect many guys at the waiting room. It seems all Moema clinicas are charging R230 per HR. And Abbbora will ask R260 for certain girls. Had a little Clinica run with member XXL and one of laughable moment was at Palms Clinica which supposed to be the high-end place with R300 per HR. At Palms, there isn't any girl presentation in person, but you can check out the available girls by using the tablets. It was just funny since the girls from the tablet weren't all that attractive. If I had more time, might of went back to session since the place looked high-end and located in Vila Olimpia where I was staying.

Scandallo- Finally, all these years of hearing about this place and it exceeded my expectation as for the venue goes. Everything was more that I have imagined except for the girl quality. I was expecting all the same quality girls from Instagram that I follow but was disappointed. There weren't any stunners and few pretty ones were always busy with other customers. And, noticed many Asian customers where it was kind of surprising (I know Sao Paulo has major asian population but wow). During my week stay, visited three times and saw many of same girls. On Saturday before 7 pm, entry was R200 instead of normal R150. It has been discussed many times, but pricing before 7 pm, R150 entry (all goes towards to consumption), Room R230 and girls asking R500 to 800. During my visits, the girls accepted R400 happily which was somewhat surprising since heard price was a bit higher.

Connection- This place was too far from where I was staying, almost 40 minutes by Uber. Certainly, more partier vibe than Scandallo. Members mentioned about same owner from Scandallo owning the place and it is probably true since the rooms are identical (all button control setting). If I can remember correctly, the entry was R50, room R120 and girls were asking R300-500. The girls were doable and think it is worthy of visit. The club also have card tables and many people were playing in the back of club with proper chips.

Bahamas Club- Smaller club in Moema. The place is somewhat old and laidback but it was kept in good shape and classy where it reminds of old high-end hotel in New York. There weren't many girls and didn't see any 9-10's. Session with big tits girl there and saw the same girl again at Scandallo next two nights. Since Connection and Scandallo were only place available to my knowledge, wasn't a bad idea to check this place out. Similar to Scandallo price except for entry fee which was too confusing where I just paid R150.

Negative- Not sure why but many of girls had a foul odor smell from their pussy. You do not smell it until change of sex position (touched on the condom to confirm the smell). This happened way too many times even with the girl from Scandallo. This was complete turn off..Thanks for posting your informative and timely report. I have been thinking of heading to Brazil myself since it looks like SE Asia will remain in lockdown until a vaccine is made widely available.

It is, however, very distressing to hear that "many of girls had a foul odor smell from their pussy" because this is a total turnoff for me and I refuse to shag a smelly pussy. Now it could be just a case of bad luck or a more serious personal hygiene issue among SP hookers. I do not know, but this is almost unheard of in BKK and Pattaya especially among Go Go girls and high-end soapy massage girls. In fact, I have never encountered the problem in LOS and I must have conservatively shagged over 500 Thai girls. I have encountered the problem a couple of times in the PI and one time in Phnom Penh. In all of those situations I terminated the session and paid the girl off. This problem is a particularly surprising one since you visited quality places like Scandallo.

On the 2nd issue in your report: although it is not nearly as serious as smelly pussy, is lack of quality. I was particularly surprised to read about your disappointment in the overall quality of Scandallo girls. Personally, I never expect all girls or even a majority of girls to be above a 5* out of 10* no matter where I go, including some of the best, most highly regarded bordellos in the world like Rio Sauna in Macau Malio Club in Jakarta, or Maria Hotel and Spa in BKK. In all those amazing venues I am happy if 10% of the girls are 6.5* to 7* and maybe one or two girls are 8's. That means I can find the kind of girl I am looking for.

Sperto
11-06-20, 21:55
It is, however, very distressing to hear that "many of girls had a foul odor smell from their pussy" because this is a total turnoff for me and I refuse to shag a smelly pussy.
You should avoid brazilian p*ssies. They ALL smell like Danish cheese. Go back to LOS.
I remember once when me and my friends went to ViaShow in Rio, we brought some regular girls back home to have a suruba/foursome. All went fine, The girls were s*cking d*cks in the taxi etc, but back home when I was going to doggy one of the girls I opened her vagina lips and felt a odor just like when you open a can of surstromming. I almost vomited. You really should keep going to Asia.

The Cane
11-06-20, 22:36
So I have talked privately with some vets of both Rio and SP about the differences and it seems like SP has Rio beat when it comes to mongering. Seems like the amount of women is larger in SP at the very least. With that being said, some have said that the ambiance of Rio is more laid back and enjoyable than SP. As someone who enjoys darker skinned women, I also asked if Rio has a greater selection of negras and mulattas. I had mixed responses, as some said yes and some said that SP has enough to whet my appetite.

Can the guys who have experience in both SP and Rio speak a bit about the advantages and disadvantages between the two? Would it be worth splitting time between the two cities if I only had about a week to spend? Would it be worth choosing Rio over SP if I'm chasing negras and mulattas?My god man. How about trying to RTFF why don't you?

Member #4698
11-06-20, 22:43
You should avoid brazilian p*ssies. They ALL smell like Danish cheese. Go back to LOS.
I remember once when me and my friends went to ViaShow in Rio, we brought some regular girls back home to have a suruba/foursome. All went fine, The girls were s*cking d*cks in the taxi etc, but back home when I was going to doggy one of the girls I opened her vagina lips and felt a odor just like when you open a can of surstromming. I almost vomited. You really should keep going to Asia.Thanks for the advice, but I think you are taking my comments on the OP's experience the wrong way. All I did was quote his observation and add an obvious explanation that it was probably, "just a case of bad luck or a more serious personal hygiene issue among SP hookers. " Now which of those two possibilities do you think is more likely? Really! So, I am sorry if I inadvertently may have implied that all SP hookers or even a large number of SP hookers have serious personal hygiene problems. I meant no insult towards the vast majority of wonderful SP working girls of which I am sure most have sweet smelling pussies.

I hope that clears everything up, but I am curious: You say, "I opened her vagina lips and felt a odor just like when you open a can of surstromming. I almost vomited. " I know the smell. So did you shag her, settle for a BJ, or get rid of her?

Anaggie
11-06-20, 22:45
Been going to Brazil since the early 2000's amd I have never had a girl whose pussy smelled bad. Most have no smell and every once in a while, a slight flowery smell.

If it has a smell, one must wonder where you are getting these girls from.

BMo814
11-06-20, 23:56
You should avoid brazilian p*ssies. They ALL smell like Danish cheese. Go back to LOS.
I remember once when me and my friends went to ViaShow in Rio, we brought some regular girls back home to have a suruba/foursome. All went fine, The girls were s*cking d*cks in the taxi etc, but back home when I was going to doggy one of the girls I opened her vagina lips and felt a odor just like when you open a can of surstromming. I almost vomited. You really should keep going to Asia.Aren't you the same dude that told me you've had more Brazilian buceta than I can ever dream of?? LOL this will be my first time I believe you shouldn't knock something before you try it but believe me if I have the same experience I will never return. Someone told me you be been to every state in Brazil and this never worried you? COVID will stop you from going to Brazil but this wouldn't? Some of why'all ISG guys kill me.

PussyRiot
11-07-20, 00:20
Hello buddy, glad you made it home safe. Hope you are staying well and it was pleasure meeting you.

Just note that you are in heaven and I am back in prison, LOL.

PussyRiot
11-07-20, 00:39
Never had a problem with foul smelling girls in Brazil ever. So don't know what that was about. Also, with COVID still on the March, the quality of the girls could be down, with only the most desperate and hard up for cash willing to take a chance and keep working in the clubs.I don't know if it was Covid or me but it bothered me during the sessions and never had this problem in Rio.

This smell thing is my personal opinion and it shouldn't deterred any mongers.

XXL
11-07-20, 03:02
Hardly any AirBnb places have an in-room safe. I haven't stayed in a place devoid of an in-room safe for ages. How do you guys deal with this? No alternative but sticking to hotels?

AirBnb should have a policy about this instead of making a show of carbon monoxide detectors and whatnot.

The Cane
11-07-20, 03:05
I don't know if it was Covid or me but it bothered me during the sessions and never had this problem in Rio.

This smell thing is my personal opinion and it shouldn't deterred any mongers.I wasn't linking COVID to bad smells. I was saying that maybe the reason why the talent was subpar is due to the pandemic, with only the most desperate of tutes being willing to still get out there and risk it working in the clubs. Sorry about the smell though. Glad I've never had that problem in Brazil where I have eaten lots of Brasiliera pussy and ass.

Christian G
11-07-20, 11:50
Hardly any AirBnb places have an in-room safe.I have been in 3 airbnb in Pattaya and all 3 had the safety box. Also in Cuba 2 airbnb out of 3 had the safety box.

XXL
11-07-20, 12:03
I have been in 3 airbnb in Pattaya and all 3 had the safety box. Also in Cuba 2 airbnb out of 3 had the safety box.So it could be a Brazil problem. I keep mailing AirBnB hosts in Sao Paulo and only one or two who are inside hotels have safes. I am in such an AirBnB right now in fact.

In Thailand even 2-star hotels have safes. And Thailand may be where safes are the least needed owing to the country's outstanding safety record.

Lucky Nuts
11-07-20, 12:41
Hardly any AirBnb places have an in-room safe. I haven't stayed in a place devoid of an in-room safe for ages. How do you guys deal with this? No alternative but sticking to hotels?

AirBnb should have a policy about this instead of making a show of carbon monoxide detectors and whatnot.Because I've made several trips to Cuba I had to carry large amounts of cash as ATMs don't work for Americans there. I split up my bankroll and hide it 8 to 10 places between all my belongings and me. So that even if I was robbed they would probably find one stash and think that is THE stash. This system now works so well for me I prefer to use it over the lock boxes excpet when I'm in Medellin and renting longer term. And even then I still keep several stashes separate from the lock box. Something unsettling about having everything in one metal box screwed to a shelf exactly where a thief would know to target.

Lucky Nuts
11-07-20, 12:54
Because of Covid, deciding on the trip was not an easy decision but been working every day for past ten months and just needed it. This was my first time in Sao Paulo and wanted to make this trip report for any newbies visiting this city in near future. You can also check out my trip reports for Rio, Medellin, Cali, Panama City as well.

Final thought- The trip was decent even with Covid situation. Surprisingly, everyone in Sao Paulo always wear a mask which made me felt safe and the city showed a lot wealth which was different from Rio. There were many fancy cars and people popping bottles at Scandallo and other clubs. As many members will advise, splitting the days between Rio and Sao Paulo isn't a bad idea. Just note that even with killer currency, you will spend some money when visiting night spots such as Scandallo and connection on a nightly basis. If you are thinking about making the trip, just do it.Thanks for posting a great trip report OldBelly. Great for us newbies planning to visit. Like others here my trip to LOS (land of smiles) was cancelled so looking at other possibilities. I've been to Rio back in the days of Disco Help but not since 2004. Never been to Sao Paulo but looking forward to visiting the nightclubs you mentioned. Could someone tell me the similar places in Rio other than Casablanca? I've read the last ten pages of Rio forum but don't see much mentioned on nightclubs. I'll be visitng both cities over a few weeks time. I'm not into the termas as much as nightclubs unless they've changed since 2004.

Steve 9696
11-07-20, 15:12
Thanks for posting a great trip report OldBelly. Great for us newbies planning to visit. Like others here my trip to LOS (land of smiles) was cancelled so looking at other possibilities. I've been to Rio back in the days of Disco Help but not since 2004. Never been to Sao Paulo but looking forward to visiting the nightclubs you mentioned. Could someone tell me the similar places in Rio other than Casablanca? I've read the last ten pages of Rio forum but don't see much mentioned on nightclubs. I'll be visitng both cities over a few weeks time. I'm not into the termas as much as nightclubs unless they've changed since 2004.Think you answered urself. If it isn't in the last ten pages of the forum it probably is a for a reason. Common wisdom that you go to Rio for Termas and SP for Boates and SP is far superior for the girl scene in general prevails.

I can't recall your tolerance for playing the Sugar Baby game but I would try my hand at that for evenings in Rio. Beachside dining and overnights with hotties in Rio sounds divine to me (see my recent Seeking Arrangements thread FR. This was USA but you get the idea). Here’s the link to the FR #1109 if u are wondering what SB can be like at it’s pinnacle. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements

Lucky Nuts
11-07-20, 15:53
Think you answered urself. If it isn't in the last ten pages of the forum it probably is a for a reason. Common wisdom that you go to Rio for Termas and SP for Boates and SP is far superior for the girl scene in general prevails.

I can't recall your tolerance for playing the Sugar Baby game but I would try my hand at that for evenings in Rio. Beachside dining and overnights with hotties in Rio sounds divine to me (see my recent Seeking Arrangements thread FR. This was USA but you get the idea). Heres the link to the FR #1109 if u are wondering what SB can be like at its pinnacle. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-ArrangementsThanks for confirming what I suspected Steve. Yeah I'll definitely work the SA game in Brazil. I just returned from a month in Kiev and met a couple good ones there via SA although required lots of time and work. And yeah I do keep up with the discussion on the SA forum. You guys are using SA as intended. I more try to use it for single sessions although I did see one girl twice.

WyattEarp
11-08-20, 17:56
So I have talked privately with some vets of both Rio and SP about the differences and it seems like SP has Rio beat when it comes to mongering. Seems like the amount of women is larger in SP at the very least. With that being said, some have said that the ambiance of Rio is more laid back and enjoyable than SP. As someone who enjoys darker skinned women, I also asked if Rio has a greater selection of negras and mulattas. I had mixed responses, as some said yes and some said that SP has enough to whet my appetite.

Can the guys who have experience in both SP and Rio speak a bit about the advantages and disadvantages between the two? Would it be worth splitting time between the two cities if I only had about a week to spend? Would it be worth choosing Rio over SP if I'm chasing negras and mulattas?I tend to agree with The Cane here RTFF. This SP vs. Rio topic comes up almost every two weeks for the last ten plus years since Help Disco in Rio closed. It sounds like you've heard all the comparisons.

As far as finding negras and mulattas, I will reiterate I have not noticed big disparities in the numbers between the two cities. These are both huge cities only separated by 200 miles. I myself generally don't run around Brazil looking for fair-skinned blondes either.

I wouldn't overanalyze the decision and just visit both cities.

WyattEarp
11-08-20, 18:26
........I've been to Rio back in the days of Disco Help but not since 2004. Never been to Sao Paulo but looking forward to visiting the nightclubs you mentioned. Could someone tell me the similar places in Rio other than Casablanca? I've read the last ten pages of Rio forum but don't see much mentioned on nightclubs. I'll be visitng both cities over a few weeks time. I'm not into the termas as much as nightclubs unless they've changed since 2004.Since Help closed in 2009, no large club with significant numbers of working girls has emerged. One would suspect the city of Rio wants it that way. There are a smattering of girls in a few nightlife venues.

Some of my buddies don't care for termas. Some hate the brothel set-up and / or waiting in line to fuck in small rooms. We try to meet up with cool termas girls outside the termas. We also like to socialize in the termas bar with the girls. Granted, it's not the same as a club.

Tottem
11-08-20, 21:47
The bad smell comes from changing from anal to vaginal sex, which is common in Brazil. The flora that is in the rectum should under no circumstances be transmitted to the vagina.

SoberHans69
11-08-20, 22:55
Definitely going to Sao Paulo in January but need to decide which two weeks to book off from work.

Thinking about going on the 4th of January. Bar any Covid related incidents, will the Clinicas and any Boates that have reopened be back to normal and most of the girls back to work or should I go one or two weeks later?

Been using Duolingo everyday for at least half an hour but finding Portuguese hard to learn.

The Cane
11-09-20, 00:40
The bad smell comes from changing from anal to vaginal sex, which is common in Brazil. The flora that is in the rectum should under no circumstances be transmitted to the vagina.I don't know if that was the specific issue with his sessions or not, but yes one should never do this. Change condoms each time before you go from the pussy to the ass and vice versa. Well, it's OK to go from pussy to ass without switching out, but always change condoms when going from butt hole to pussy hole. Also, never go from from eating ass to eating pussy. Eat all of the pussy you want first. Then munch out the butt hole to your heart's content.

BPalacio
11-09-20, 06:18
I tend to agree with The Cane here RTFF. This SP vs. Rio topic comes up almost every two weeks for the last ten plus years since Help Disco in Rio closed. It sounds like you've heard all the comparisons.

As far as finding negras and mulattas, I will reiterate I have not noticed big disparities in the numbers between the two cities. These are both huge cities only separated by 200 miles. I myself generally don't run around Brazil looking for fair-skinned blondes either.

I wouldn't overanalyze the decision and just visit both cities.Fair enough. I am RTFF and have been working my way from page 70 of the Rio thread onto about page 55 right now. I have been skipping around the SP thread's more recent reports. There really hasn't been a great deal of explicit comparisons of the negras and mulattas populations between Sao Paulo and Rio so far. I have read more reports that mention negras in the prives in the Rio thread than the reports I've read in the SP thread. I have also been basing my assumption that Rio has a greater negras population on the selection of ads on Photo.

The reason why I opened up my question about a comparison between the two cities is largely because my biggest concern was the availability of negras and mulattas in SP. I had read through many of Rovnak's posts (apologies for name dropping. If you stumble across this post and would not like your name associated with it, Rovnak, please PM me and I will delete this) and saw his opinion (post #7847 made on 01-21-17) on the debate between the two cities. He stated that SP had larger top-end and medium-end clubs compared to Rio. He stated that SP was much more late-night friendly, with significant discounts possibly being available later in the night. He stated that SP's days of operation were M-Sat, with some available on Sunday, while Rio was typically M-F. He stated that takeout is an option in the top clubs of SP, while it is not an option in the top clubs of Rio.

After reading through Rovnak's breakdown of SP vs Rio, I more or less believe SP has the more ideal setup. It might be foolish to base this on just one person's information, but I have read a good amount of Rovnak's posts (his breakdown on how select and vet from Photo was very informative) and trust his expertise enough to place a lot of weight on his opinion. I have also spoken to other vet mongers who more or less corroborated his take. The only piece that was missing from his report was a comparison between the negras and mulattas populations from the two cities. I probably sound like a broken record at this point, but that is a big enough factor to influence which city I would choose as my maiden trip.

Wyatt, you have been a great help both through PMs and on the forum, and I have also read through many of your posts on this board and the Rio board. I have taken your advice to heart, but I also do not believe I would have the time or money to explore both cities, so I am trying my best to take in as much info as I can to make a decision.

The Cane has also been a great help and has contributed a lot on both boards as well. Apologies to both of you guys if I still haven't met your standards of RTFF. I am still in the process of RTFF. There is a lot of ground to cover. My questions were posted because I have not really seen enough reports answering the negras and mulattas question to form a clear consensus on which city has the better selection or if the difference was insignificant enough to be inconsequential. If you have answered it previously, or if you know of specific reports that have answered the question previously, it would be a big help if you could point them out to me.

XXL
11-09-20, 12:04
Up and running again according to a clinica girl I sessioned. Used to be called "a boate das boates" (the mother of all discos), because it opened till daybreak and girls gathered there after other places closed for the night.


The bad smell comes from changing from anal to vaginal sex, which is common in Brazil. The flora that is in the rectum should under no circumstances be transmitted to the vagina.

Very plausible since most garotas are into anal. The dumb thing is, they will insist on condom change whenever a cock is coming fresh from another girl's vagina, but they will be ok with switching between their own butt and pussy without condom change. This may make sense from the point of view of STD prevention but it is disastrous for vagina smell.

Turgid
11-09-20, 13:22
Very plausible since most garotas are into anal. The dumb thing is, they will insist on condom change whenever a cock is coming fresh from another girl's vagina, but they will be ok with switching between their own butt and pussy without condom change. This may make sense from the point of view of STD prevention but it is disastrous for vagina smell.I think mongers should not only be banging the girls but also do something useful for them. In my next visit to Brazil I'm going to give out portable personal douches to the hotties as gifts.

The Cane
11-09-20, 13:33
I think mongers should not only be banging the girls but also do something useful for them. In my next visit to Brazil I'm going to give out portable personal douches to the hotties as gifts.LOLOLOL! Hahaha!

BMo814
11-11-20, 00:33
Thanks for posting a great trip report OldBelly. Great for us newbies planning to visit. Like others here my trip to LOS (land of smiles) was cancelled so looking at other possibilities. I've been to Rio back in the days of Disco Help but not since 2004. Never been to Sao Paulo but looking forward to visiting the nightclubs you mentioned. Could someone tell me the similar places in Rio other than Casablanca? I've read the last ten pages of Rio forum but don't see much mentioned on nightclubs. I'll be visitng both cities over a few weeks time. I'm not into the termas as much as nightclubs unless they've changed since 2004.I've heard dolce vita in Rio is decent I believe it's in copa forgive me if I spelled it wrong I have a bud there now he said he felt like a piece of meat with a wallet in there. Left with a slim negra. Looked decent he said she was a blast.

BMo814
11-11-20, 00:34
I think mongers should not only be banging the girls but also do something useful for them. In my next visit to Brazil I'm going to give out portable personal douches to the hotties as gifts.That's a great idea! LOL.

Hobbying
11-11-20, 05:47
The bad smell comes from changing from anal to vaginal sex, which is common in Brazil. The flora that is in the rectum should under no circumstances be transmitted to the vagina.But ass to mouth is toppi kkk.

I will be in SP this week if any one wants to meet up.

XXL
11-13-20, 02:00
I had visited Red Massagem on All Saints' Day but then they had no girls in attendance. Girls had apparently gone home for the bank holiday. Today they had 4 girls. Only one, Laeticia, was doable. I waited for ages in the room for her to turn up. This was not the first time in a clinica I was left cooling my heels in the room. Can someone tell me what business girls have to attend that takes so much time? If they were playing for time too bad, because I am usually done after 20 minutes, so no need to play for time with me. Anyways, the shower in room 9 was not working so we had to move to another room. Laeticia informed me, or rather fed me the lie, that she had a tooth ailment that required her to do only covered blowjobs. It was downhill from then on of course. She was the typical non-provider who shouldn't be in this line of business. I left without finishing. Off to Kin Center Clinic.

In Kin Center I was presented with an assortment of thick-waisted shorties. I called it a day and called an Ueber to my AirBnB.

Red and Kin are not places I am going to visit again any time soon.

My skinny mulatta from Prime is away to Campinas for the week. I miss her. Slim picking in the clinicas. If only Scandallo was somewhat reasonably priced (or had redeemable features like decent food), I would give it another chance this week. As it is, I'll wait till I am days away from my flight back home to blow the rest of my cash there.

Connection is tempting but it lies in the back of beyond. Traffic in SP now much worse than one month ago, when moving about was easy as pie.

DreamCarnarvon
11-13-20, 03:03
I had visited Red Massagem on All Saints' Day but then they had no girls in attendance. Girls had apparently gone home for the bank holiday. Today they had 4 girls. Only one, Laeticia, was doable. I waited for ages in the room for her to turn up. This was not the first time in a clinica I was left cooling my heels in the room. Can someone tell me what business girls have to attend that takes so much time? If they were playing for time too bad, because I am usually done after 20 minutes, so no need to play for time with me. Anyways, the shower in room 9 was not working so we had to move to another room. Laeticia informed me, or rather fed me the lie, that she had a tooth ailment that required her to do only covered blowjobs. It was downhill from then on of course. She was the typical non-provider who shouldn't be in this line of business. I left without finishing. Off to Kin Center Clinic.

In Kin Center I was presented with an assortment of thick-waisted shorties. I called it a day and called an Ueber to my AirBnB.

Red and Kin are not places I am going to visit again any time soon.If I were you I would give Kin Center another chance. Judging by the Prime's slim mulata, I assume you are in to dark skinned slim girls. There is a good looking tall slim mulata by the name of Cecilia at Kin Center. I've seen her once. She gets great TD reviews on GP-Guia so she is always busy. You either have to pre-schedule with her or get lucky if you walk-in. The trick is to not to pick a girl right away, rather sit and relax and wait for at least 30 minutes or more to give the girls in session to finish and be available. There also a beautiful branca named Sofia. She also got great TD reviews. I was going to session with her the other day but she had an appointment coming up and so she was only able to do a 30 minute session, which I never do. I will definitely go back in the near future to session with both of them. There is also an exotic looking tall slim morena named Victoria. I did and had a good session.

YippieKayay
11-13-20, 05:55
In Kin Center I was presented with an assortment of thick-waisted shorties. I called it a day and called an Ueber to my AirBnB.
Thanks for the report. Do you mean short with a big booty?



If only Scandallo was somewhat reasonably priced (or had redeemable features like decent food), I would give it another chance this week. As it is, I'll wait till I am days away from my flight back home to blow the rest of my cash there.
There are other boates. Has anyone tried 2028 Augusta bar?

XXL
11-13-20, 11:30
Thanks for the report. Do you mean short with a big booty?
No, I meant short and with a poor waist-to-hip ratio.

WyattEarp
11-13-20, 18:33
No, I meant short and with a poor waist-to-hip ratio.That's the McDonald's effect.

PussyRiot
11-14-20, 14:52
If only Scandallo was somewhat reasonably priced (or had redeemable features like decent food), I would give it another chance this week. As it is, I'll wait till I am days away from my flight back home to blow the rest of my cash there.

Connection is tempting but it lies in the back of beyond. Traffic in SP now much worse than one month ago, when moving about was easy as pie.Try spaghetti at Scandallo which wasn't too bad and reasonably priced.

I know Connection is far but it is worthy of visit during the week nights.

Sounds like you are getting tired of Sao Paulo scene and maybe try Rio or other cities for few days.

XXL
11-14-20, 17:27
Duda is a girl with outsized labia. She is also loud. Mother of 3, so pussy not too tight. All the same, she moves well and is really into it. I'll repeat.

On my way out I caught sight of Mary, whom I hadn't seen during the first presentation. I decided to try her out there and then. Guitar-shaped body (done-up tits though). Good-tempered and talkative. Will probably repeat as well.

I'm adding Enjoy to my list of regular Clinicas.

Not only is Ueber invaluable in SP, but Ueber Eats is a blessing as well, plus one good reason to stay in an apartment rather than a hotel room.

Ksa Sing
11-16-20, 21:33
On my October trip I visited various clinicas.

Miruna x 2.

Kin.

Brooklin.

Abbabora.

The key is being able to walk out if there is nothing that excites you. The other nice thing is the lineups are a little fluid so each visit may yield some surprises. I also like that Brooklin and Kin are close to each other, the same as Marunda and Abbabora, so you can compare whose available pretty easily.

Kin has always been the worst of these clinicas for me. But I have found some cuties there a couple of times.

Brooklin seems to have the most stable lineup. I recognise some girls as having been there 3 years plus. But he presentations get boring, until a new cutie shows up.

Miruna is one of my favourites. Some good and some bad but overall a solid record. And I adore the two girls at reception. They are very friendly. Always making sure I have water or coffee etc and quite chatty with me in my broken Portuguese.

Abbabora has some nice girls but I've never clicked that well with them. They seem less friendly. Maybe it's just me. This place is more "clinical" in feel.

Recent memorable girls are Juliana from Miruna; Nathalie from Abbabora and Lara from Brooklin. I'm heading back in December for more fun.


Duda is a girl with outsized labia. She is also loud. Mother of 3, so pussy not too tight. All the same, she moves well and is really into it. I'll repeat.

On my way out I caught sight of Mary, whom I hadn't seen during the first presentation. I decided to try her out there and then. Guitar-shaped body (done-up tits though). Good-tempered and talkative. Will probably repeat as well.

I'm adding Enjoy to my list of regular Clinicas.

Not only is Ueber invaluable in SP, but Ueber Eats is a blessing as well, plus one good reason to stay in an apartment rather than a hotel room.

YippieKayay
11-16-20, 21:36
I'm looking at the poster ads for 2028 Bar Augusta (http://2028bar.com.br/) and they say "A PARTIR DOS 10 H" which translate to "Opens at 10 AM. " I've also seen them post elsewhere as "A PARTIR DOS 10 H AS 20 H" which would mean "Opens at 10 AM until 8 PM. " Am I wrong? Can someone who understands Brazilian Portuguese better than me confirm that they really are a 10 AM to 8 PM Boate?

Also, has anyone heard anything about Casarao? That place was an institution. I'm going to be in SP this weekend and want to avoid clip joints like Scandaloo and Cafe Photo that just charge too much.

XXL
11-16-20, 22:40
I'm looking at the poster ads for 2028 Bar Augusta (http://2028bar.com.br/) and they say "A PARTIR DOS 10 H" which translate to "Opens at 10 AM. " I've also seen them post elsewhere as "A PARTIR DOS 10 H AS 20 H" which would mean "Opens at 10 AM until 8 PM. " Am I wrong? Can someone who understands Brazilian Portuguese better than me confirm that they really are a 10 AM to 8 PM Boate?

Also, has anyone heard anything about Casarao? That place was an institution. I'm going to be in SP this weekend and want to avoid clip joints like Scandaloo and Cafe Photo that just charge too much.Bar Augusta says from Monday to Monday 10 am to 4 am. It says so on this page: http://www.2028bar.com.br/contato.php.

Their Facebook page says something about November 20 as from 10am, but this seems to be about a special local celebration ("Festa do Farol"). So 10am seems to be their opening time. Here: https://www.facebook.com/2028baraugusta/

The website doesn't say whether they have short time rooms.

The Casarao webpage still has the Covid public announcement so I gather it is still closed: https://casaraoaugusta.com.br.

YippieKayay
11-16-20, 23:05
The website doesn't say whether they have short time rooms.
On their fb page they mention a special with "suite incluso. " I'm not sure if "suite" in SP means short time room when advertised at these places.

XXL
11-16-20, 23:14
On their fb page they mention a special with "suite incluso. " I'm not sure if "suite" in SP means short time room when advertised at these places."Suite" is standard Brazilian for "(hotel) room". I'll ckeck the place this Thursday. However, "fun as from 30 R with room included" sounds too cheap to be any good.

FRobertson
11-16-20, 23:45
On my October trip I visited various clinicas.

Recent memorable girls are Juliana from Miruna; Nathalie from Abbabora and Lara from Brooklin. I'm heading back in December for more fun.Thank you for sharing!

I'm hoping to make it to SP in December as well.

Anaggie
11-17-20, 00:28
Ticket booked for a business trip mid December. Now comes the hard decision:

Do I take a for sure girl who I had last time and was able to BB but no chance at anal or do I look for something new on PhotoAcompanhantes with anal? The other girl I had found on PhotoAcompanhantes and she was great. Good conversation, lots of kissing, made her orgasm multiple times before she just grabbed my dick and put it in her pussy. Morning, moon and night we got it on.

Decisions. Decisions. Decisions.

PussyRiot
11-18-20, 02:13
Abbabora has some nice girls but I've never clicked that well with them. They seem less friendly. Maybe it's just me. This place is more "clinical" in feel.

Recent memorable girls are Juliana from Miruna; Nathalie from Abbabora and Lara from Brooklin. I'm heading back in December for more fun.Man, you barely make any posts but when you do, it includes many good info. Please share more your experiences after December trip.


I'm going to be in SP this weekend and want to avoid clip joints like Scandaloo and Cafe Photo that just charge too much.You should try muchachos.

YippieKayay
11-18-20, 17:29
You should try muchachos.That looks like a dive bar that's SW of Centro SP.

Jimmy Boy 99
11-18-20, 20:18
That looks like a dive bar that's SW of Centro SP.It's a nice local place in Santo Amaro with a few good-looking women. If I remember correctly, 10 real entry got you two drinks, and an hour was 200 real. If you wanted to upgrade the room, it was another 20 or 30 real. They had live music (at least on Friday and Saturday). Maybe 30-40 women. Helps if you speak Portuguese.

YippieKayay
11-18-20, 20:25
It's a nice local place in Santo Amaro with a few good-looking women. If I remember correctly, 10 real entry gets you two drinks, and an hour is 200 real. If you want to upgrade the room, it's another 20 or 30 real. They had live music (at least on Friday and Saturday). Maybe 30-40 women. Helps if you speak Portuguese.Thanks, I'll give it a go and see what its like. This is if 2028 Bar Augusta doesn't work out. My hotel is closer to that one. For Clinicas I got a list I can pop into during the day.

XXL
11-19-20, 02:10
On my October trip I visited various clinicas.



Brooklin seems to have the most stable lineup. I recognise some girls as having been there 3 years plus. But he presentations get boring, until a new cutie shows up.

Yes, I visited Brooklin three times around noon, and I was show the same 4 girls each time.

I visited Enjoy twice at the same time of day at a few days' interval, and the 5 or 6 girls I was shown were all different but one.

XXL
11-19-20, 18:15
Place deserted when I arrived shortly before noon. The guy told me he was going to call "the girls". In fact only one girl was available. Though milfish she was somewhat my type and seemed to like me so I decided to try her out. One hour 150 R.

The lighting in the room didn't work, the only light being from the adjoining shower which looked like it had not been cleaned since the day before. The sheets looked stained in the half-light. This was not a place for the fastidious.

My Sagami broke, which I put down to the lack of lube (not unusual for girls not to have lube). When the 2nd Sagami broke too I assumed this was due to the girl's shaven pussy having grown a spiky stubble, which had made going down on her feel less than satisfactory. I ended up shooting my load THROUGH the condom rather than inside it. The girl didn't seem to mind at all. Too bad, enough on my mind these days without having to worry about a dose of the claps.

I you want to come here better choose another time of day (though a poster on the Brazilian GP forum mentioned coming close to midnight and being disappointed as well).

The exchange rate has taken a sharp turn for the worse over the past few days. Must be a Real thing coz the euro/USD rate is unchanged.

Steve 9696
11-19-20, 18:56
Place deserted when I arrived shortly before noon. The guy told me he was going to call "the girls". In fact only one girl was available. Though milfish she was somewhat my type and seemed to like me so I decided to try her out. One hour 150 R.

The lighting in the room didn't work, the only light being from the adjoining shower which looked like it had not been cleaned since the day before. The sheets looked stained in the half-light. This was not a place for the fastidious.

My Sagami broke, which I put down to the lack of lube (not unusual for girls not to have lube). When the 2nd Sagami broke too I assumed this was due to the girl's shaven pussy having grown a spiky stubble, which had made going down on her feel less than satisfactory. I ended up shooting my load THROUGH the condom rather than inside it. The girl didn't seem to mind at all. Too bad, enough on my mind these days without having to worry about a dose of the claps.

I you want to come here better choose another time of day (though a poster on the Brazilian GP forum mentioned coming close to midnight and being disappointed as well).

The exchange rate has taken a sharp turn for the worse over the past few days. Must be a Real thing coz the euro/USD rate is unchanged.I had a rash of breakage with my Japanese thin condoms and gave up on them. Plus even the extra large are tight. Try the Trojan BareSkin (regular or Magnum). They are like 80% as good feeling as the Sagamis and waaaaay more reliable. My new weapon of choice!

YippieKayay
11-19-20, 20:03
The lighting in the room didn't work, the only light being from the adjoining shower which looked like it had not been cleaned since the day before. The sheets looked stained in the half-light. This was not a place for the fastidious.
Holy shit. Thanks for the report and taking one for the team, hahaha. Flying over in a bit and may give this place a pass or just pop in to take a look. This doesn't bode too well. Prices outside of some clinicas appear to be high. I do wish Casarao would have opened by now.

The Cane
11-19-20, 23:38
I had a rash of breakage with my Japanese thin condoms and gave up on them. Plus even the extra large are tight. Try the Trojan BareSkin (regular or Magnum). They are like 80% as good feeling as the Sagamis and waaaaay more reliable. My new weapon of choice!Are all BareSkins lubricated? I don't like or use lubricated condoms. Can't remember the last time I did. In the 80's? LOLOLOL!

BMo814
11-20-20, 13:53
Got to SP yesterday and got to see a lovely loria, cache was R600 . Before why'all criticize I just touchdown wasn't in a negotiating mood. Great head, negro Beijo beautiful body.

https://twitter.com/fdeusa2?s=21

The Cane
11-20-20, 16:17
Got to SP yesterday and got to see a lovely loria, cache was R600 . Before why'all criticize I just touchdown wasn't in a negotiating mood. Great head, negro Beijo beautiful body.

https://twitter.com/fdeusa2?s=21Given the exchange rate, that's not too much to pay for a looker who performs over a solid length of time, like an hour minimum.

BMo814
11-20-20, 23:08
Given the exchange rate, that's not too much to pay for a looker who performs over a solid length of time, like an hour minimum.Agreed my man! But some of why'all hard core and if we pay above R300 they tell us we fuckin the market up. I generally don't do tooo much negotiating I see it like this, thanks to ISG I know what the market is, if she goes way over I'm walking away. If she is in the ball park we can rock bcuz if I talk her down now she is just going out of necessity and I feel there would be a loss in quality of service and I hate to waste time and money. Money I'll waste bcuz all this is a waste of money as long as I leave smiling.

BMo814
11-20-20, 23:20
I been drooling over this mixed Japa named Lina I'm sure why'all on Twitter have seen her. Well she is off until the 28th but I still been dying to meet one of these Brazilian. Japonesa so today I selected Sayuri Soto off SP love. What can I say, I'the give her a mixed review. Was pretty but a little older I believe than what she stated, service was a 7 , came in kissing and hugging and rubbing. She talked nasty during sex which I dug even tho I only understand 1 out of every 5 words. If your a newbie like me and your Portuguese is lame don't worry, the 2 garotas that I've had were unbothered and the japa I had today wouldn't shut up LOL. The bad part about could tell she wasn't as " cultured" she was super impressed with the view from my room and that turned me into a photographer. Then afterwards too. Then she tried to get me to pay for a taxi which I replied I know you have money I just gave it to you. Cache R1000 for 2 hours.

Sperto
11-21-20, 01:15
Then she tried to get me to pay for a taxi which I replied I know you have money I just gave it to you. Cache R1000 for 2 hours.
To me it sounds good. A months salary is about R$1000. The girl must be happy.
I remember a "few years ago" when a Help girl charged R$35 and I was like woooow, expensive. However it was my last night in Rio and I accepted. When I followed the girl to the bus after a noite of selvagem she wanted to give the money back, but I didn't accept. Still I was like, jesus I paid R$35 to f*ck a girl.
I had a good friend who found a girl at Help who wanted R$350 at that time. I told him he was stupid if he payed that amount, but he was horny and loves huge horse asses. He accepted, and she jumped happy of joy. He's an oldtimer in Rio, but he never regret he payed that amount of money.
Pay whatever you like! You might ruin to others, but you only live one time.

Balboa
11-21-20, 02:07
Hit Connection night club last night.

Thursday.

100 are entrance, 50 are consumable.

First time there. I liked it a lot, much more than Scandallo.

Some of the same girls were working at Connection as Scandallo too.

They told me 800 are programa at Scandallo, accept 600 are, and half that price at Connection.

Had a great time!

BMo814
11-21-20, 02:44
To me it sounds good. A months salary is about R$1000. The girl must be happy.
I remember a "few years ago" when a Help girl charged R$35 and I was like woooow, expensive. However it was my last night in Rio and I accepted. When I followed the girl to the bus after a noite of selvagem she wanted to give the money back, but I didn't accept. Still I was like, jesus I paid R$35 to f*ck a girl.
I had a good friend who found a girl at Help who wanted R$350 at that time. I told him he was stupid if he payed that amount, but he was horny and loves huge horse asses. He accepted, and she jumped happy of joy. He's an oldtimer in Rio, but he never regret he payed that amount of money.
Pay whatever you like! You might ruin to others, but you only live one time.I don't have the experience to fall back on being my first time, and my Portuguese is limited so it's a little difficult to haggle so to speak. But from what I've read I'm not the only one they are asking these prices. I see many of the top garotas ask r400-500 on Twitter and PA so they haven't tried to play me too badly LOL. And Sperto I've been lucky no danish cheese yet LOL.

Kib123
11-21-20, 04:53
... The bad part about could tell she wasn't as " cultured" she was super impressed with the view from my room and that turned me into a photographer. Then afterwards too. Then she tried to get me to pay for a taxi which I replied I know you have money I just gave it to you. Cache R1000 for 2 hours.Haha, reminds of my first experience in Bogota, exact same situation, took picture till it got quite irritating. And I couldn't get her to shut, or leave after the deeds.

Thanks for the intel. I am not on twitter so sharing some of those contacts here or via pm would be nice.

PussyRiot
11-21-20, 15:58
Agreed my man! But some of why'all hard core and if we pay above R300 they tell us we fuckin the market up. If she is in the ball park we can rock bcuz if I talk her down now she is just going out of necessity and I feel there would be a loss in quality of service and I hate to waste time and money. Money I'll waste bcuz all this is a waste of money as long as I leave smiling.You are not fucking up the market as price is what it is with these girls from the sites.

Not sure if Covid is factor with you but try some clinic and clubs as well.


Hit Connection night club last night.

They told me 800 are programa at Scandallo, accept 600 are, and half that price at Connection.

Had a great time!Glad you had a great time. When I was there few weeks back, Scandallo girls were taking R400-500.

Balboa
11-21-20, 16:16
Glad you had a great time. When I was there few weeks back, Scandallo girls were taking R400-500.I'm sure you're right, I was just sitting and talking with a few girls who work at both clubs, Scandallo and Connection, and they told me their thoughts, and asking prices.

I don't doubt that you could negotiate a better deal, as you say.

I also saw a couple girls, who told me they knew me from Casarao, LOL.

Speaking of Casarao, I stopped at Balneario the other day, which is located next door to Casarao, the manager told me that Casarao would open in December.

Hopefully that's true.

WyattEarp
11-21-20, 16:34
I had a good friend who found a girl at Help who wanted R$350 at that time. I told him he was stupid if he payed that amount, but he was horny and loves huge horse asses. He accepted, and she jumped happy of joy. He's an oldtimer in Rio, but he never regret he payed that amount of money.
Pay whatever you like! You might ruin to others, but you only live one time.Things were different 15-20 years ago. I certainly overpaid for some super hot Brasileiras who were lackluster performers. However, I also overpaid a couple times for hot Brasileiras who would go a couple rounds at night and then again in the morning. Some would just hang out the next day. That is far less common now.

BMo814
11-21-20, 21:51
You are not fucking up the market as price is what it is with these girls from the sites.

Not sure if Covid is factor with you but try some clinic and clubs as well.

Glad you had a great time. When I was there few weeks back, Scandallo girls were taking R400-500.I can dig it! LOL. Just tryna do right for the culture LOL. Yeah but it seems the Twitter / Splove / club model girls all asking for r500 outside of their flats / hotels. I'm hooking up with Sophia Ferrari tonight and she asked the same. There are some hotter garotas but I read on GP gua she is Argentinian and I always wanted to fuck an Argentinian LOL. And I think COVID is playing a factor I think they want to hit a couple home runs to limit the contact they have to have with hella costumers . Just an assumption but makes sense in my mine lol . Anybody in the city hit me up I’m here until Wednesday then off to Rio Wednesday morning

https://twitter.com/sophiaferrarisp?s=21

BMo814
11-21-20, 21:53
Haha, reminds of my first experience in Bogota, exact same situation, took picture till it got quite irritating. And I couldn't get her to shut, or leave after the deeds.

Thanks for the intel. I am not on twitter so sharing some of those contacts here or via pm would be nice.Sure shoot me a message. But all 3 the 2 I have met and the third I will me are on SP love as well. Easy to find.

TravelingMan3
11-21-20, 23:03
I'll be in town soon arrive Tuesday this will be my second time in Brazil likely spending most of my time at Scandallo again. Assessment of Scandallo the first time is great venue but chicks weren't superstars so I'm checking it out again to be fair. I've heard connection is good so I'll check it out Wednesday if its good it will be in the rotation. Not much of an escort guy sitting in room and ordering chicks is just boring to me so don't think I'll be doing that much. I do plan to check out clinicas this time as I didn't the first time so I'll give it a shot.

The Cane
11-22-20, 00:49
I'll be in town soon arrive Tuesday this will be my second time in Brazil likely spending most of my time at Scandallo again. Assessment of Scandallo the first time is great venue but chicks weren't superstars so I'm checking it out again to be fair. I've heard connection is good so I'll check it out Wednesday if its good it will be in the rotation. Not much of an escort guy sitting in room and ordering chicks is just boring to me so don't think I'll be doing that much. I do plan to check out clinicas this time as I didn't the first time so I'll give it a shot.If you think that you can get a true assessment of Scandallo now with a raging pandemic going on, no you're not being fair. Plenty of people, mongers and girls alike, are staying away from the scene until this thing settles down. Only when things return to normal can you obtain a sense of how great the talent at Scandallo can be. Only then can you make a "fair" assessment. How in the world do you think that you can do that in these times? Come on man. Get real. I have been to The Connection Nightclub, and wrote perhaps the first detailed report of that club in this thread. It was way on the other side of town from where I was staying, but definitely worth a visit. I will go again myself the next time I'm in Sampa.

Mcd2293
11-22-20, 02:48
I'll be in town soon arrive Tuesday this will be my second time in Brazil likely spending most of my time at Scandallo again. Assessment of Scandallo the first time is great venue but chicks weren't superstars so I'm checking it out again to be fair. I've heard connection is good so I'll check it out Wednesday if its good it will be in the rotation. Scandallo used to have superstars before the pandemic. Since then the place kinda went downhill but it still holds a special place in my heart. Go to Connection on a Wednesday. It's great.

BMo814
11-22-20, 04:59
I'll be in town soon arrive Tuesday this will be my second time in Brazil likely spending most of my time at Scandallo again. Assessment of Scandallo the first time is great venue but chicks weren't superstars so I'm checking it out again to be fair. I've heard connection is good so I'll check it out Wednesday if its good it will be in the rotation. Not much of an escort guy sitting in room and ordering chicks is just boring to me so don't think I'll be doing that much. I do plan to check out clinicas this time as I didn't the first time so I'll give it a shot.To each their own, this mongering game there is no right way. For me it's a bit awkward to be in a club with loud music tryna communicate in a language I don't know well. With that being said I will try Scandallo while I here. Part of why I like "ordering " escorts, 2 of the garotas I have had I been drooling over on Twitter for 2-3 months now and it was nice to bang them. The one tonight was the best because she is Argentinian and I was finally able to communicate and the pussy was goood. Part of my vacation is rest, so if I can call a baddie over drink some champagne, fuck then go to sleep without having to wait for Uber get back to hotel / apartment then like ice cube said today was a good day. Don Magic Juan used to say Chuch! Can't hate you can't hate.

WyattEarp
11-22-20, 14:38
The one tonight was the best because she is Argentinian and I was finally able to communicate and the pussy was goood.Were you with Argentine Yasmin Piovane by chance? She's very pretty and very popular. Yasmin was a blonde a few years back.

Rextor
11-22-20, 16:17
I'll be in town soon arrive Tuesday this will be my second time in Brazil likely spending most of my time at Scandallo again. Assessment of Scandallo the first time is great venue but chicks weren't superstars so I'm checking it out again to be fair. I've heard connection is good so I'll check it out Wednesday if its good it will be in the rotation. Not much of an escort guy sitting in room and ordering chicks is just boring to me so don't think I'll be doing that much. I do plan to check out clinicas this time as I didn't the first time so I'll give it a shot.Please report back on both venues. The reports coming out of Scandallo have been very concerning, hopefully Connection picks up the slack. Such institutions thrive through a balance of supply and demand. If there are beautiful women there, wealthy patrons will visit. And if there are wealthy patrons there, beautiful women will show up to work.

It's a balance that is delicate at the best of times (see. Any gogo bar in Pattaya that has fallen into a death spiral after thriving for a period of time). I truly wish that the Covid hasn't done in Scandallo as well. My expectations were set sky high by this forum. Plentiful 8+ grade women, with a good chunk verging on 9, available at high concentrations, offering great service. That kind of establishment was unique on this planet, and I think recovering even to the point where its busy but with only 7's would be an absolute tragedy.

BMo814
11-22-20, 21:13
Were you with Argentine Yasmin Piovane by chance? She's very pretty and very popular. Yasmin was a blonde a few years back.No it was her friend Sophia Ferrari, but I'm going to try Yasmine too LOL. They are like sisters they know each other since childhood. I agree Yasmine is very pretty, Sophia and I had talked a bit on Twitter and she gave good vibes so I picked her but def going to fuck her best friend too. But Don’t get me wrong Sophia was no mud duck . I actually thought she was better than her photos maybe it was the make up . But great head , talked nasty when I sucked that pussy and even nastier when I gave the pau. Cache R500

JohnJones22
11-23-20, 03:56
I truly wish that the Covid hasn't done in Scandallo as well. My expectations were set sky high by this forum. Plentiful 8+ grade women, with a good chunk verging on 9, available at high concentrations, offering great service. That kind of establishment was unique on this planet, and I think recovering even to the point where its busy but with only 7's would be an absolute tragedy.Touching on Scandallo being "unique on this planet". Is it actually? I feel like there has to be other clubs around the world at that level. I'm sure major US cities have that level, albeit sky high prices. Perhaps the veterans can enlighten us; any similar places in South America, Asia, Europe? (pre-covid of course).

WyattEarp
11-23-20, 19:00
Touching on Scandallo being "unique on this planet". Is it actually? I feel like there has to be other clubs around the world at that level. I'm sure major US cities have that level, albeit sky high prices. Perhaps the veterans can enlighten us; any similar places in South America, Asia, Europe? (pre-covid of course).Places similar to Scandallo do exist. Perhaps not as grand, but bars and clubs frequented by primarily (or many) working girls are out there. This is the website to stay on top of the very fluid nature of these type of clubs.

Sadly, I think the globe is at a low point for these establishments. I miss the days of Help Disco (Rio) and Angel's Disco (Bangkok). I heard on this website Night Flight (Moscow) might be closed permanently. From what I understand, Thermae in Bangkok is still a decent freelancer pick-up joint.

You just have to keep up here.

BMo814
11-23-20, 19:27
Places similar to Scandallo do exist. Perhaps not as grand, but bars and clubs frequented by primarily (or many) working girls are out there. This is the website to stay on top of the very fluid nature of these type of clubs.

Sadly, I think the globe is at a low point for these establishments. I miss the days of Help Disco (Rio) and Angel's Disco (Bangkok). I heard on this website Night Flight (Moscow) might be closed permanently. From what I understand, Thermae in Bangkok is still a decent freelancer pick-up joint.

You just have to keep up here.Haven't been to Scandallo yet but Hong Kong in Tijuana has its share of beauties. And nothing beats that foam sho when they fuck each other with dildos.

BMo814
11-23-20, 20:54
I'm seeing what I been missing, why'all boys that been coming to Brazil living the life. Don't get me wrong I know the money is the main thing but these chicks are cool as fuck too. Got out a little today went to Avienda Paulista then went and seen Lilith Scarlett at her flat. She posts on PA but I also follower her on Twitter. Was a little heavier than I expected but still attractive, big tits big ole butt and speaks a little English although we communicated in my sorry Portuguese. Great sex tho, and she recorded a few moments on her cell phone. I like a big sexy girl every now and again, it's been a while so it was a nice change of pace LOL.

JohnJones22
11-23-20, 21:14
Haven't been to Scandallo yet but Hong Kong in Tijuana has its share of beauties. And nothing beats that foam sho when they fuck each other with dildos.Good to know. Though there's something about Tijuana that just seems dirty to me, like the city itself doesn't seem like a nice place to be. I've never been so I could be wrong. Sticking to Mexico though, I've been to Cesar's and Candy's in Guadalajara and the quality of girls at both those spots was shocking (in a good way). The establishments themselves don't compare to Scandallo but damn do the girls do!

BMo814
11-23-20, 22:17
Good to know. Though there's something about Tijuana that just seems dirty to me, like the city itself doesn't seem like a nice place to be. I've never been so I could be wrong. Sticking to Mexico though, I've been to Cesar's and Candy's in Guadalajara and the quality of girls at both those spots was shocking (in a good way). The establishments themselves don't compare to Scandallo but damn do the girls do!Tijuana is dirty! Zona rosa when you want pussy during the day take a trip to Rosarito, puerto Nuevo, Ensenada, it's a bit of a ways out but great cheap food and margarita, look at the ocean and chill. Tijuana is not a vacation spot it's a 2-3 days max bust all the nuts you can and your out. But I have seen some gorgeous Mexican women in Hong Kong and adelitas next door. Hotels are connected to the clubs, make your selection, set your price and up you go.

The Cane
11-23-20, 23:29
Touching on Scandallo being "unique on this planet". Is it actually? I feel like there has to be other clubs around the world at that level. I'm sure major US cities have that level, albeit sky high prices. Perhaps the veterans can enlighten us; any similar places in South America, Asia, Europe? (pre-covid of course).As WyattEarp said, there are indeed places like Scandallo. Including right there in Sao Paulo itself. Places like Cafe Photo, Bomboa, and Connection. At least when they were all open that is. The difference is that I have never been to a nice club of the size and scale of a Scandallo, and just packed to the brim with hotties! I mean, I have seen some babes in there you just have to see with your own eyes to believe. I mean, I'm sitting there looking at them, and I still can't believe my own eyes! I call Scandallo "the baddest puta palace on the planet", and I'm glad I've had the good fortune to be able to go there and experience it for myself. To have sexual access to so many beautiful women. So, sure there are other places, but I have not encountered another of the same magnitude and caliber anywhere else in the world. And although I have not literally been everywhere, I have been to a lot of cities around the globe, including most of the top mongering destinations. And that's a good lead-in to the United States. No, the United States absolutely does not have anything on the same level. Think about it. For one, except for a few small locales, prostitution in the United States is illegal remember? And in those places where it is legal, you're not going to find anything like a Scandallo. Believe me, I wish I was wrong. But, it is what it is. Come on with the vaccines. Come on!

Steve 9696
11-24-20, 00:48
Touching on Scandallo being "unique on this planet". Is it actually? I feel like there has to be other clubs around the world at that level. I'm sure major US cities have that level, albeit sky high prices. Perhaps the veterans can enlighten us; any similar places in South America, Asia, Europe? (pre-covid of course).Now I haven't been everywhere. But I've been almost everywhere. And I don't know of anywhere else in the world that can touch Scandallo for luxe venue with literally 150+ sevens and up. (Pre Covid) Used to love Manhattan in Shanghai — but maybe a third the scale (50 girls) and 1/10 as luxe. Now it's shut down due to Chinese crackdown on fun.

You mention the USA and I laughed out loud. Prostitution is illegal. Therefor there is nothing even vaguely like Scandallo.

Thailand had tons of girls but spread amongst many clubs rather than concentrated. And the optics level is quite variable.

Add to that that Brasileiras are unique in the world that they sem to live fully in the moment and will make you believe they enjoy every moment. I believe many do.

JohnJones22
11-24-20, 00:59
Now I haven't been everywhere. But I've been almost everywhere. And I don't know of anywhere else in the world that can touch Scandallo for luxe venue with literally 150+ sevens and up. (Pre Covid) Used to love Manhattan in Shanghai but maybe a third the scale (50 girls) and 1/10 as luxe. Now it's shut down due to Chinese crackdown on fun.

You mention the USA and I laughed out loud. Prostitution is illegal. Therefor there is nothing even vaguely like Scandallo.

Thailand had tons of girls but spread amongst many clubs rather than concentrated. And the optics level is quite variable.

Add to that that Brasileiras are unique in the world that they sem to live fully in the moment and will make you believe they enjoy every moment. I believe many do.Damn I was in Shanghai last year and missed out on Manhattan. Were the girls really top notch?

You're telling me there are no high end strip clubs in LA, NY, Miami that you can bang the girls in? Hard to believe but I could be wrong.

I heard Singapore had a magic place but didn't end up going at the time. Wish I did.

I also heard Santiago Chile has at least one high end place. Makes sense since they have a strong economy and a ton of recently arrived Venezuelans.

Steve 9696
11-24-20, 04:17
Damn I was in Shanghai last year and missed out on Manhattan. Were the girls really top notch?

You're telling me there are no high end strip clubs in LA, NY, Miami that you can bang the girls in? Hard to believe but I could be wrong.

I heard Singapore had a magic place but didn't end up going at the time. Wish I did.

I also heard Santiago Chile has at least one high end place. Makes sense since they have a strong economy and a ton of recently arrived Venezuelans.Yep Manhattan was all that when it was running. I love Asians (and Latinas). So fifty 7+ in one tiny club and all want to fuck? Yeah it was great. I’d always go in promising myself I was gonna hold out and enjoy the girl buffet for at least a half hour. And invariably some hottie would seduce me and we’d be out the door in 15 minutes. LOL.

USA. Nope. The higher end the club the less likely you are to fuck. Strippers in the US have golden pussy syndrome. It they can make $1000 a night grinding on some geezer why in the world would they fuck for money. Detroit is by far your best bet for fucking in a strip club in the US. But you know the "champagne room". It's not like a room with a bed like you visualize in your head. It's a booth right next to another booth. US strip clubs suck if you have been to Germany London Brazil Moscow or pretty much anywhere else.

In Singapore you are thinking of Brix. Have friends that have been and it was great in the day but quite expensive (as all things in Singapore are).

RonFromSichuan
11-24-20, 04:24
Haven't been to Scandallo yet but Hong Kong in Tijuana has its share of beauties. And nothing beats that foam sho when they fuck each other with dildos.Having been to both, I will say if you liked Hong Kong, you will like Scandallo. Both are over the top, premium venues, the best in the area. A few differences I have noticed having been to Scandallo four times and Hong Kong twice:

Atmosphere: Hong Kong has more of a strip club vibe, with the girls dancing on the poles and the foam shows that you mentioned. Scandallo has more of a nightclub vibe, and the place is larger so it is possible to find somewhere quieter if you want to talk to a girl.

Waiters: My main complaint about Hong Kong is that the waiters were way too pushy with drinks, especially if you had a girl sit down with you. In Scandallo, the waiters will not annoy you constantly.

But overall, both places are awesome and I recommend anyone visiting to stop by and check the place out, even if it may be a bit over your budget. Every guy should experience what it is like to live like a King at least once in their life. On another note, it is a bit of a bummer to read that the talent level is not what it used to be, but hopefully once this pandemic is over, things will get back to the old normal.

On a side note, I also am curious as to when Cafe Photo and Bomboa will reopen. I have been considering going back to one of these places during my next trip to Brazil, but I would like intel first to see how things are different compared to before.

DreamCarnarvon
11-24-20, 04:54
Hey BPalacio,

If you are reading, I just replied to your PM.

So fellas, I am planning to extend my stay here in SP but I am not sure if I should extend it through Christmas and New Year. I have read that normally during Christmas and New Year period, the clinicas don't have as many girls available as most girls will take time off. But as we all are aware, this year is different due to the pandemic. I would like to get opinions of what y'all think. I have met quite of few girls in the clinicas who told me they have started working in the puta business due to either lost of their regular job or a reduction in their salary or they were forced to return to Brazil from countries like Portugal, France, and Spain. Is it possible that girls will be hesitant to take time off during the holiday due to 1) fear of travel due to the virus 2) need for money more so than ever before?

JohnJones22
11-24-20, 05:54
Yep Manhattan was all that when it was running. I love Asians (and Latinas). So fifty 7+ in one tiny club and all want to fuck? Yeah it was great. Id always go in promising myself I was gonna hold out and enjoy the girl buffet for at least a half hour. And invariably some hottie would seduce me and wed be out the door in 15 minutes. LOL.

USA. Nope. The higher end the club the less likely you are to fuck. Strippers in the US have golden pussy syndrome. It they can make $1000 a night grinding on some geezer why in the world would they fuck for money. Detroit is by far your best bet for fucking in a strip club in the US. But you know the "champagne room". It's not like a room with a bed like you visualize in your head. It's a booth right next to another booth. US strip clubs suck if you have been to Germany London Brazil Moscow or pretty much anywhere else.

In Singapore you are thinking of Brix. Have friends that have been and it was great in the day but quite expensive (as all things in Singapore are).I'm also heavy into Latinas and Asians. I like big booties and breasts which is not hard to find on Latinas but on Asians that's a different story. After your description of Manhattan I'm super curious as to how the girls actually were in there. Good looking I'm sure, but were they curvy? Enhanced curvatures? I know China isn't known for breast implants or fat transfers but I did see this random girl on the street one day in China with a Kim Kardashian body. There was definitely no way her body was natural but goddamn did she look amazing. If this type of girl worked at Manhattan I'd be broke from spending all my money there. Did it seem like most girls were from China though or different parts of Asia?

I'd also like to ask you as a fellow Latina / Asian lover, which Asian countries do you think have the hottest girls? For me it has to be Vietnam.

Hobbying
11-24-20, 08:31
Please report back on both venues. The reports coming out of Scandallo have been very concerning, hopefully Connection picks up the slack. Such institutions thrive through a balance of supply and demand. If there are beautiful women there, wealthy patrons will visit. And if there are wealthy patrons there, beautiful women will show up to work.

It's a balance that is delicate at the best of times (see. Any gogo bar in Pattaya that has fallen into a death spiral after thriving for a period of time). I truly wish that the Covid hasn't done in Scandallo as well. My expectations were set sky high by this forum. Plentiful 8+ grade women, with a good chunk verging on 9, available at high concentrations, offering great service. That kind of establishment was unique on this planet, and I think recovering even to the point where its busy but with only 7's would be an absolute tragedy.Connection and Scandallo has the same owner. Connection is slightly cheaper. But the top girls know they can make more money at Scandallo so they eventually end up there.

Scandallo during my visit had about 10 new girls every day, some worked elsewhere others never worked at all if they are telling the truth. So because of the pandemic many girls started prostitution because they lost their jobs or need to support their family. In any case, the girls are clients of the club also and girls are not turned away no matter what they look like.

Unless the girls go everyday, there is an entrance fee 250 R for the girls also so this weeds out many of the girls that simply cannot compete. So there are 8+ but do not be surprised to see some 5's also.

In terms of the girls' prices, everyone has there own value and price. Some girls quoted me 1000 R for 1 hour others 500 R, while some quoted 1000 R or 3000 R for the whole night. One thing for sure, they never forget how much you paid them in the past and will expect the same price each time.

On average last week, I paid 600 R for one hour or 1500 R for the whole day. Previous weeks, I was paying 500 R for one hour or 800 R for the night. If the girls knows you will give her more than just money such as gifts etc they will lower their prices.

Many girls told me they got 1000 R for one hour from gringos because they are willing to pay that price. So do not be price shocked when a girls ask for 1000 R since they have gotten that price in the past.

BMo814
11-24-20, 13:27
https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/video/ingles-paises-argentina-cuba-paraguay-costa-rica-chile-ranking-perspectivas-buenos-aires/#.

Something that popped up on CNN español. I'm not going to beat a dead horse but for those that think there is a direct correlation between speaking English and making money. 2 of the top 5 countries maybe 3 with Paraguay that have people that speak the most English are some of the poorest nations.

WyattEarp
11-24-20, 15:01
https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/video/ingles-paises-argentina-cuba-paraguay-costa-rica-chile-ranking-perspectivas-buenos-aires/#.

Something that popped up on CNN espaol. I'm not going to beat a dead horse but for those that think there is a direct correlation between speaking English and making money. 2 of the top 5 countries maybe 3 with Paraguay that have people that speak the most English are some of the poorest nations.I think it goes without saying historically Latin America looks to the USA For the same reason, you will find people in Eastern Europe who can get by in German. In Prague in the early 90's, someone might ask you if you spoke English or German.

WyattEarp
11-24-20, 15:22
USA. Nope. The higher end the club the less likely you are to fuck. Strippers in the US have golden pussy syndrome. It they can make $1000 a night grinding on some geezer why in the world would they fuck for money. Detroit is by far your best bet for fucking in a strip club in the US. But you know the "champagne room". It's not like a room with a bed like you visualize in your head. It's a booth right next to another booth. US strip clubs suck if you have been to Germany London Brazil Moscow or pretty much anywhere else.Try explaining that to your Brazilian colleagues who want to visit a USA Strip club. They look at you like you're crazy when you tell them men give the girls money to give air dances six inches from their pecker. After you travel around the world, you start to think it's crazy.

I remember two young women. One was a Brazilian knockout I pulled out of Help in Rio. When we got back to my apartment, this Brasileira that I was paying $80 kept telling me how she would make that in a few minutes dancing in Miami. I told her "this isn't Miami princess". Her attitude lightened up, but she was not a great lay.

Another memory is this hot Russian girl who danced at a local strip club in my city. She had an attitude. She would tell me and my friends how lucky we were to have girls like her dance for us. I told her that if this was Moscow she would be going home with us. We never heard that nonsense from her again. We also would shoo her away when she came to our table.

So I suppose the lesson of these two stories is that the USA Strip club scene does give these women "golden pussy syndrome" whether they are born here or not.

Steve 9696
11-24-20, 19:24
I'm also heavy into Latinas and Asians. I like big booties and breasts which is not hard to find on Latinas but on Asians that's a different story. After your description of Manhattan I'm super curious as to how the girls actually were in there. Good looking I'm sure, but were they curvy? Enhanced curvatures? I know China isn't known for breast implants or fat transfers but I did see this random girl on the street one day in China with a Kim Kardashian body. There was definitely no way her body was natural but goddamn did she look amazing. If this type of girl worked at Manhattan I'd be broke from spending all my money there. Did it seem like most girls were from China though or different parts of Asia?

I'd also like to ask you as a fellow Latina / Asian lover, which Asian countries do you think have the hottest girls? For me it has to be Vietnam.So first of all on your last comment. I have been nearly everywhere. And whereas early in my career Asians all looked sorta Asian LOL I have grown to see the differences clearly. And IMO the most beautiful women in the world are Vietnamese.

And guess what? Manhattan (and Judy's) were exclusively Vietnamese. They'the fly over in a month visa, bag some guys and fly back. Paradise seeing so many 8 9 10. Oh and fucking them. LOL.

But no big tits and big booty. Just not a Viet thing. Koreans are most highly prized in Asia for milky skin and big tits. But I prefer the darker slim girls or Thailand and Vietnam.

BTW world_of_asians has a rolling Instagram of hot girls. Funny thing is I started following favorites and noticed a pattern. They are all Vietnamese!

DreamCarnarvon
11-24-20, 23:06
In terms of the girls' prices, everyone has there own value and price. Some girls quoted me 1000 R for 1 hour others 500 R, while some quoted 1000 R or 3000 R for the whole night. One thing for sure, they never forget how much you paid them in the past and will expect the same price each time.

On average last week, I paid 600 R for one hour or 1500 R for the whole day. Previous weeks, I was paying 500 R for one hour or 800 R for the night. If the girls knows you will give her more than just money such as gifts etc they will lower their prices.

Many girls told me they got 1000 R for one hour from gringos because they are willing to pay that price. So do not be price shocked when a girls ask for 1000 R since they have gotten that price in the past.God damn these prices are ridiculous. I went to Connection some weeks ago and I was quoted R400 from most girls I talked to. I set up a session.

With an 8 the next day at 11 am for R500 + uber. 11 am pasted and she was still in bed sleeping. I cancelled the session and she told me we should meet in the afternoon. I never did contact her again. Thank god, the 30 or so different clinicas I have been visiting 6 days a week have been keeping me completely satisfied of all the fucking I can handle, all shade of skin tone and shapes. More power to you guys who are willing to pay that amount for pussy. But for me, I'm comfortable with my daily clinica grind.

Hobbying
11-25-20, 01:19
God damn these prices are ridiculous. I went to Connection some weeks ago and I was quoted R400 from most girls I talked to. I set up a session.

With an 8 the next day at 11 am for R500 + uber. 11 am pasted and she was still in bed sleeping. I cancelled the session and she told me we should meet in the afternoon. I never did contact her again. Thank god, the 30 or so different clinicas I have been visiting 6 days a week have been keeping me completely satisfied of all the fucking I can handle, all shade of skin tone and shapes. More power to you guys who are willing to pay that amount for pussy. But for me, I'm comfortable with my daily clinica grind.There are different spectrums of people that want to blow money at these high end places. Girls get tips for just sitting with the clients and not going the rooms. One girl got 1000 R from a Brazilian guy to just go home and not work for the night.

XXL
11-25-20, 02:31
... But for me, I'm comfortable with my daily clinica grind.I've settled into an afternoon clinica routine myself. Girls regularly turn up at cinicas who are in the same league as the best Scandallo or Escort site girls. I feel no compulsion to drive to Scandallo or Connection in the dead of night with loads of cash.

My extra budget is better wasted on other luxuries like top-notch accomodation.

PussyRiot
11-25-20, 02:55
Unless the girls go everyday, there is an entrance fee 250 R for the girls also so this weeds out many of the girls that simply cannot compete. So there are 8+ but do not be surprised to see some 5's also.

In terms of the girls' prices, everyone has there own value and price. Some girls quoted me 1000 R for 1 hour others 500 R, while some quoted 1000 R or 3000 R for the whole night. One thing for sure, they never forget how much you paid them in the past and will expect the same price each time.

On average last week, I paid 600 R for one hour or 1500 R for the whole day. Previous weeks, I was paying 500 R for one hour or 800 R for the night. Have noticed during my visits, some girls that are regulars just enjoy hanging out at the club. They have regular customers that buy them food & drinks and weren't even interested in talking to another clients. For whatever reason, Sao Paulo is just more expensive than Rio and when try to hook up with Scandallo girl outside of club, the price doesn't get any lower unless you can do overnight stay or multiple hours.


Waiters: My main complaint about Hong Kong is that the waiters were way too pushy with drinks, especially if you had a girl sit down with you. In Scandallo, the waiters will not annoy you constantly.
Every guy should experience what it is like to live like a King at least once in their life. On another note, it is a bit of a bummer to read that the talent level is not what it used to be, but hopefully once this pandemic is over, things will get back to the old normal.One thing I loved about Scandallo was the staff. They were very accommodating and professional, absolutely no pressure. I felt so blessed to experienced Scandallo in my life time as mentioned. I was hoping all Instagram girls that I followed were working there and clearly was wrong, LOL.


More power to you guys who are willing to pay that amount for pussy. But for me, I'm comfortable with my daily clinica grind.So hitting clinica / massage parlor during the day and nightclubs at night been my game plan when mongering. Guess you can find some girls at clinica and hang out after hours but it gets so boring at night time where just have to go somewhere. Maybe I am still young in my middle 30's.

Pipe Layer99
11-25-20, 05:06
damn these prices are ridiculous. - clinicas I have been visiting 6 days a week have been keeping me completely satisfied of all the fucking I can handle, all shade of skin tone and shapes. More power to you guys who are willing to pay that amount for pussy. But for me, I'm comfortable with my daily clinica grind.There are plenty of very nice ladies at the numerous clinicas. I was there for a month in September and a few days of October. I had a smoking hot mestiça Japanese / Brazilian at a clinica 20 minutes away from Moema. The 1 hour session with her was only R200. Totally worth the price. Another mestiça was found and enjoyed 20 min. NE of Indianopolis. That place was only R150 for frequent visitors and 180 for everyone else. I got lucky with the price because I was drinking a water and talking with the owner / manager about clinica A2 in that area. He said they are the same. They had recently moved to this location and changed the name. So I got the better price (LOL a whole 30 reais).

Speaking about scandallo girls / prices. I talked with a girl for a few minutes at one of the local Moema places. I wanted to screen her more, so she sat down on the sofa. She spoke almost perfect english and was dressed much nicer than most clinica girls. She wore a tight fitting sexy dress with heels, had platinum blonde hair and blue eyes. I believe she said one of her parents was from Europe. She mentioned that she usually goes to scandallo. Here was a girl that was working for R100-130 for an hour session (total cost for us at this clinica is R180). She usually gets 600 or more reais at the club. The clinicas certainly do keep a man satisfied and at 20% of the cost. I definitely love the clinicas. I see another trip coming up in December.

Hobbying
11-25-20, 06:33
There are plenty of very nice ladies at the numerous clinicas. I was there for a month in September and a few days of October. I had a smoking hot mestia Japanese / Brazilian at a clinica 20 minutes away from Moema. The 1 hour session with her was only R200. Totally worth the price. Another mestia was found and enjoyed 20 min. NE of Indianopolis. That place was only R150 for frequent visitors and 180 for everyone else. I got lucky with the price because I was drinking a water and talking with the owner / manager about clinica A2 in that area. He said they are the same. They had recently moved to this location and changed the name. So I got the better price (LOL a whole 30 reais).

Speaking about scandallo girls / prices. I talked with a girl for a few minutes at one of the local Moema places. I wanted to screen her more, so she sat down on the sofa. She spoke almost perfect english and was dressed much nicer than most clinica girls. She wore a tight fitting sexy dress with heels, had platinum blonde hair and blue eyes. I believe she said one of her parents was from Europe. She mentioned that she usually goes to scandallo. Here was a girl that was working for R100-130 for an hour session (total cost for us at this clinica is R180). She usually gets 600 or more reais at the club. The clinicas certainly do keep a man satisfied and at 20% of the cost. I definitely love the clinicas. I see another trip coming up in December.Many clinica girls work at the club afterwards. They have goals to buy a car or an apt and leave the biz. Some stay on because the money is too good or have no other motivation to do something else. Though I have met would be lawyers and doctors.

I go to scandello in hopes of meeting a perfect 10 girl in my eyes that is worth the price of entry 1500 R. Sometimes I talk to them for 3 hours before doing anything, just can't do that a clinica.

DreamCarnarvon
11-25-20, 10:46
So I got the better price (LOL a whole 30 reais).

Speaking about scandallo girls / prices. I talked with a girl for a few minutes at one of the local Moema places. I wanted to screen her more, so she sat down on the sofa. She spoke almost perfect english and was dressed much nicer than most clinica girls. She wore a tight fitting sexy dress with heels, had platinum blonde hair and blue eyes. I believe she said one of her parents was from Europe. She mentioned that she usually goes to scandallo. Here was a girl that was working for R100-130 for an hour session (total cost for us at this clinica is R180). She usually gets 600 or more reais at the club. The clinicas certainly do keep a man satisfied and at 20% of the cost. I definitely love the clinicas. I see another trip coming up in December.Yes the 30 reais saving doesn't seem like that much but I fuck a lot and go through a lot of clinica girls and the savings do add up. As for the whole scandallo vs clinica pricing, I met several girls in the clinicas who had been working in Europe (Portugal, France, Spain, UK) charging hundreds of Euros per session but had to come back to Brazil due to the pandemic and now I get to fuck them for $30. It just goes to show you, for the most part its the location that determines how much a girl is worth. Some guys are willing to pay the higher price and honestly, I get it. Places like Scandallo and Connection are fancy and are great options for a fun night out of drinking, socializing and fucking. But I'm a much simpler guy. There is a pretty high turn over rate in some of the clinicas and they have a steady incoming of new young girls, some as young as 18,19, 20 year olds. But honestly, I not going in the clinicas expecting to find model-like 8's and 9's (although there are some scattered throughout all the clinicas. The clinicas are a grind because you have to visit each clinica multiple times and at different hours of the day. Some girls only work certain hours and / or on certain days. I recently sessioned with a young thick 20 why / o mulata last Saturday. It was her first day and she told me she will only work on saturdays. Last Sunday, I sessioned with another beautiful slim 20 why / o morena. It was her first day as well and she also told me she can only come on the weekends.). I am ok with fucking 7's and the occasional 8's because the majority of the sessions have been great to excellent. Almost everyday I come out of the clinicas and I say to myself I have to extend my stay, there are just too many good pussy. LOL.

Turgid
11-25-20, 14:14
Try explaining that to your Brazilian colleagues who want to visit a USA Strip club. They look at you like you're crazy when you tell them men give the girls money to give air dances six inches from their pecker. After you travel around the world, you start to think it's crazy.

I remember two young women. One was a Brazilian knockout I pulled out of Help in Rio. When we got back to my apartment, this Brasileira that I was paying $80 kept telling me how she would make that in a few minutes dancing in Miami. I told her "this isn't Miami princess". Her attitude lightened up, but she was not a great lay.

Another memory is this hot Russian girl who danced at a local strip club in my city. She had an attitude. She would tell me and my friends how lucky we were to have girls like her dance for us. I told her that if this was Moscow she would be going home with us. We never heard that nonsense from her again. We also would shoo her away when she came to our table.

So I suppose the lesson of these two stories is that the USA Strip club scene does give these women "golden pussy syndrome" whether they are born here or not.All American women have that golden pussy syndrome. You have to date an American non-pro X amount of times before you can get laid. Decades ago in Bangkok I met this Thai non pro; we chatted and I took her out to lunch. Afterwards I did some touristy things by myself and when I got back to my hotel she was waiting for me in the lobby.

Turgid
11-25-20, 14:17
I've settled into an afternoon clinica routine myself. Girls regularly turn up at cinicas who are in the same league as the best Scandallo or Escort site girls. I feel no compulsion to drive to Scandallo or Connection in the dead of night with loads of cash.

My extra budget is better wasted on other luxuries like top-notch accomodation.Its reading posts like this that has caused me never to have visited Scandallo in all my visits to SP.

The Cane
11-25-20, 16:47
Its reading posts like this that has caused me never to have visited Scandallo in all my visits to SP.And what about the guys like me who say that what ABG used to peddle just wasn't true? That on average, the women in the clinicas look as good as the ones at Scandallo? I'm sorry, but that's simply not true. No, what it comes down to is that some guys just don't want to spend the money. That's what the issue is. And so then they convince themselves that they're getting the same thing for less. No they aren't! Just admit that you don't want to spend the money. That, I can respect. But when it comes to women, not only have I been told I have taste. I know I do. And there is no way in hell that the clinicas have the same kind of talent looks-wise that a Scanadallo does when the place is on. Not even close. Could be some change going on now with the pandemic. I don't know. But I do know good looking women when I see them. And if you want to see some too, then go to Scandallo once this pandemic is over and things return to normal. Now if you don't want to pay Scandallo prices, well then that's another thing. But don't think for a minute that the clinicas can compete with Scandallo when it comes to the optics. Oh, and I've been quite satisfied with the performances of my Scandallo tutes as well.

BMo814
11-25-20, 19:21
This is why I report and read ISG, we all have different techniques. I ordered GP's off Twitter for 4 days in SP. Got to to smash a few I been drooling over. I'm not a big fan of CLínicas / casa de citas. I see dream is. The big dawg Cane loved Scandallo, we all leave SP happy. The new reader gets to come here and make his decision on how he wants to do it. I got the chance to see Rayane Souza from Twitter yesterday. What a body if you like them thick. I'm sure it's a surgeon hand and not God but she was hot r1350 for 3 hours. BTW Hilton Morumbi is GP friendly. There is something that says they have to register or something but I didn't register any of them, just walked in, I'the meet them in the lobby or outside we come in and up to the room. I will try Scandallo when I return from Rio and maybe a CLínica just to do it. We all got different budgets and that cool it's plenty choices for all of us. Problem for me is that damn Twitter I'm probably following 50 bitches I want. When I go back I have a light weight dupla already set up with Antonella de Mari and Bella Salgado. BTW price comes up a lot on here idk if it's Americans but some of this Gp's getting iPhone 12's and shit from guys so it's she ask for r400-500 it's in ya budget spend that shit and don't think twice. I loved Sp I went to some restaurant Terraza Rooftop holy shit I think you probably can collect some numbers there if you have any portugués skill. There were groups of gorgeous women. I was with a date but the girl next to me was eye fuckin the shit out of me.

The Cane
11-25-20, 19:38
This is why I report and read ISG, we all have different techniques. I ordered GP's off Twitter for 4 days in SP. Got to to smash a few I been drooling over. I'm not a big fan of CLnicas / casa de citas. I see dream is. The big dawg Cane loved Scandallo, we all leave SP happy. The new reader gets to come here and make his decision on how he wants to do it.I just get annoyed when somebody truly in a position to decide for himself would rather just listen to one side of the story, and not even go to check it out for himself. Now, if somebody actually went to Scandallo and didn't like it, or if they went and thought it was good but didn't want to pay Scandallo prices, OK. But to just take one side and discount everything that the other side is saying, without even trying to investigate you yourself when you have every opportunity to do so, just seems myopic to me. Scandallo! The baddest puta palace on the planet! At least pre-pandemic LOL!

BMo814
11-26-20, 00:58
I just get annoyed when somebody truly in a position to decide for himself would rather just listen to one side of the story, and not even go to check it out for himself. Now, if somebody actually went to Scandallo and didn't like it, or if they went and thought it was good but didn't want to pay Scandallo prices, OK. But to just take one side and discount everything that the other side is saying, without even trying to investigate you yourself when you have every opportunity to do so, just seems myopic to me. Scandallo! The baddest puta palace on the planet! At least pre-pandemic LOL!I fully intended to see what you talking about. Your an established poster and I know you tell no lies LOL. Also I still can see one blonde you posted a photo of in my head LOL. One of the finest chicks I seen in my life and you know I'm not lying because I dm'the what one like that cost pernoite LOL. We all got different budgets and like you said just say you don't want to pay, I don't mind dropping $150 for a couple hours of a gorgeous woman deep throating me, talking nasty as fuck, dancing around. Of all the places I been haven't did SEA yet Brazil is hands down the best. Best looking women, best sex and they are cool and nice as fuck. I'm a single traveler I don't get lonely but company is nice and these broads almost seem to enjoy the dates not just look at it as work.

BMo814
11-26-20, 01:04
All the Twitter chicks been tagging me in their post now GPS in my dm flirting asking can they tag me in their twitter post. It's a nsfw account no friends or family but I don't really give a fuck anyway.

DreamCarnarvon
11-26-20, 15:03
Man this week there has been an flux of new girls in a lot of the clinicas. It may be that the holiday is coming up and the girls are looking to make some holiday money. I don't really know as I have never stayed in SP around this time of year. So I have decided that I am going to extend my stay through the New Year. There are too many girls I want to fuck but haven't yet. And the repeat list keep getting longer by the day.

Yesterday was truly my lucky day. A sweetheart 20 year old cutie returned to work after being gone for 2 months. She was looking after her mother who became very ill. I told her I thought she was gone for good. Our first session before she stopped working (not even 1 week into the start of her work) I decided to take it real slow with her and spent the first 30 minutes making out & getting a BBBJ from her and the remainder of the session eating her out. And days later, puff, she's gone. I have regretted ever since. So yesterday on our second session we continued where we left off nearly two months ago. We fucked like two love birds.

Turgid
11-26-20, 22:45
And what about the guys like me who say that what ABG used to peddle just wasn't true? That on average, the women in the clinicas look as good as the ones at Scandallo? I'm sorry, but that's simply not true. No, what it comes down to is that some guys just don't want to spend the money. That's what the issue is. And so then they convince themselves that they're getting the same thing for less. No they aren't! Just admit that you don't want to spend the money. That, I can respect. But when it comes to women, not only have I been told I have taste. I know I do. And there is no way in hell that the clinicas have the same kind of talent looks-wise that a Scanadallo does when the place is on. Not even close. Could be some change going on now with the pandemic. I don't know. But I do know good looking women when I see them. And if you want to see some too, then go to Scandallo once this pandemic is over and things return to normal. Now if you don't want to pay Scandallo prices, well then that's another thing. But don't think for a minute that the clinicas can compete with Scandallo when it comes to the optics. Oh, and I've been quite satisfied with the performances of my Scandallo tutes as well.Mr. Cane you are quite right, its the money. I don't want to pay triple or more at Scandallo for the same girls I can get at a clinica and too many posters here have said that that is the case. Please lets leave ABG out of this, he is not here to defend himself.

Nevertheless, I have had every intention of visiting that august club in my next visit, whenever that may be. But even you will agree that recent posts by boots on the ground now are suggesting that the talent at Scandallo has declined significantly and the club is just not what it was pre covid.

I will continue to monitor the situation at Scandallo and hope that it attains its former glory by the time of my next visit in which case I will indeed fork out those extra reals to see for myself what the noise is all about. I am indeed grateful to you and others for giving your sides of the story.

Mcd2293
11-26-20, 23:07
I was in Brazil (RJ / SP) for about a month back in October and loved my time. Half the establishments were closed but I still make due with what I had. I linked up with my 10 who I've stayed in contact through the last 2 years and we had a blast. I was one of the reports stating that Scandallo has dropped in talent during this pandemic. I'm guessing all the talent flocked over to Connection or decided to stay at home.

However the holidays are coming up and a girl's got to eat. I booked a month long trip to return back to Brazil for December-January so I will hit the ground running and smashing puta left and right. I'll let this forum know how Scandallo is and if there has been any improvement since the last time I was there. Let's hope that the 2 month hiatus and the holidays will drive some talent in there. I, for one, don't mind paying for talent. I just don't think the talent was there the last time I was in Scandallo.

DreamCarnarvon
11-27-20, 04:00
My Brazilian friend in Rio tells me that he thinks Rio will have another lockdown after this Sunday's municipal election. He sounds pretty confident. He thinks SP will be in lockdown as well. Does anyone have any ideas or thoughts?

I couldn't find anything's about a possible lockdown when I goggled. Quite the opposite, the US is now considering letting travelers from Brazil to enter the US.

Pipe Layer99
11-27-20, 06:28
Yes the 30 reais saving doesn't seem like that much but I fuck a lot and go through a lot of clinica girls and the savings do add up. As for the whole scandallo vs clinica pricing .....
It just goes to show you, for the most part its the location that determines how much a girl is worth. Some guys are willing to pay the higher price and honestly, I get it. Places like Scandallo and Connection are fancy and are great options for a fun night out of drinking, socializing and fucking .....
Almost everyday I come out of the clinicas and I say to myself I have to extend my stay, there are just too many good pussy. LOL.I'm sure you know I was only joking about the 30 reais. (however, for them at the clinica and considering it's 'their' currency, it is a discount). Right now for us travelers, with the current ex rates, its only a few dollars/euros. Heck, if the rate was around 1. 8 to 1, like back in 2008, then it really adds up. Also, like you said, if you are banging multiple chicks per day then it adds up ever faster. It also depends on how much time you spend there and how often you get to visit. Sometimes I go for a month while other times 2 weeks. Plus I tend to go twice a year when I'm stateside so it's not a big deal.

Speaking of clubs/clinicas, etc, back in the late 2000's I banged a girl in the afternoon for 150, two hours-two sessions. I had originally met her someplace else and took her number, so this was a programa set by sms. Anyway, while at the apartment she told me she normally works at Barbarellas for 400 reais (this was in Rio). Like you said, just goes to show you. In all of these years after visiting both SP and Rio dozens of times, I never had the desire to go inside Barbarellas. I don't think it's worth the price they ask while inside. Besides, plenty of girls all over the place.

Another thing about the clubs, sure it can be fun if you are with a few buddies or just enjoy that atmosphere. But the costs are up. If I go to a place like Scandallo and Bomboa for example, it's just to mingle and get phone numbers for later. I think it's a waste of money to pay R230 (or whatever the rate is) for the room. There are plenty of sexy young things in the clinicas and on the sites to make a guy happy.

Pipe Layer99
11-27-20, 10:15
Man this week there has been an flux of new girls in a lot of the clinicas. It may be that the holiday is coming up and the girls are looking to make some holiday money. I don't really know as I have never stayed in SP around this time of year. So I have decided that I am going to extend my stay through the New Year. There are too many girls I want to fuck but haven't yet. And the repeat list keep getting longer by the day.Yes, most likely more girls are coming back now because of the holiday season, plus a lot of them had months off with little or no money coming in, and they are finally more comfortable with going back to work. Either way it's good news.

Speaking of being comfortable, I have buddies that are still afraid or uneasy to go and want to wait until next year. They have to wait and can only enjoy the stories and whatever photos I share with them.

Your post made me laugh because many times I also end up extending my trips. The previous trip, just 2 months ago, I extended for 11 days. Three years ago I ended up staying for 35 days for a trip that was originally only 3 weeks. That trip was split. SP first, then Rio, and back for a week at SP. I was having such a good time I had to extend 2 more weeks. I was using miles too so it was an easy swap of the return date.

I just booked another trip for next week. Now it's just a matter of which hotel (over AirBnB). In the past I stayed at The Bourbon Convention which was really nice. It was around 400 reais a night. Now it's showing for half that price. But I want to choose another hotel to mix it up and see some new restaurants & bars as well.

Keep the girls warm.

Hobbying
11-27-20, 17:45
My Brazilian friend in Rio tells me that he thinks Rio will have another lockdown after this Sunday's municipal election. He sounds pretty confident. He thinks SP will be in lockdown as well. Does anyone have any ideas or thoughts?

I couldn't find anything's about a possible lockdown when I goggled. Quite the opposite, the US is now considering letting travelers from Brazil to enter the US.Sao Paulo governor is pushing ahead with the China vaccine, they received couple of million doses already so I doubt SP will be lockdown again.

Anaggie
11-27-20, 19:02
Brazil trip happening in one week so I started my system of finding a girl for the weekend to keep me company in São Paulo. I prefer this system since I am a quality over quantity guy and I have the budget to pay for it. Anyway, I started looking at all the sites approx two weeks before my trip and use a shotgun style method of blasting messages to all the ones that fit my type. Most don't respond as they are fake and some stop responding after my offer of spending the weekend. Once I get them interested in my offer, I state my requirements and proceed from there. Price is negotiated and I see if they will maintain a conversation till we meet so as to get to know each other better. That is the test. If the girl is truly interested, then she will keep a conversation going. I can now pretty much tell how she is going to be in person thru the messages. I usually have 5/6 different conversations going before arrival and I start weeding those out as the days get closer to my trip. Girls who don't respond for days get tossed, girls who respond only with emojis get tossed and girls whose normal pictures look nothing like their profile get tossed. Yea it is time consuming but worth it at the end as I get a girl who is really into what she does and excited to spend the weekend with me which means better in bed.

This time, I used the same system and ended up with a few different girls all interested in spending the weekend and all maintaining conversations. I was stumped. It never happens like this. So, I had two at the top of my list and decided to shoot for something I had never done. Two girls all weekend who didn't know each other yet would enjoy playing with each other. These were my picks:

https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sp/laura-bernardi

https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/marina/

Now the challenge was to get them together. The first one (Laura) said she loves girls and is bi and tried to find someone for us. But I didn't want that, I wanted these two together. So, I rejected every girl she bought and then asked the other (Marina) if she enjoyed girls. And she sure did. She is also bi. So, conversations ensued, pictures exchanged and both are now ready for the weekend ahead. All three of us are on a chat thread together and we are discussing food and drink and weekend plans.

Sure, this is going to cost some cash. Maybe too much but oh well. I have been home for a long time and got money saved from not spending on anything else. Plus I need a fucking break from all the corona bullshit and I want to let it all hang out.

Trip report to come from São Paulo next weekend.

Sperto
11-27-20, 22:17
Sao Paulo governor is pushing ahead with the China vaccine, they received couple of million doses already so I doubt SP will be lockdown again.
Wait and see what'll happen...

BMo814
11-28-20, 04:40
Wait and see what'll happen...I told you sperto, they ain't giving up easily LOL. The plane from SP to Rio was full! You know Brazilians better than I do, you know they don't want to stay home and the governor knows it too. I heard they took it more serious in SP than Rio but that's just as bad if all the paulistas come to Rio and then go back to SP. I respect everyone and every reason that someone wouldn't come now but like that Amazon commercial with the little girl dancing says at the end. The show must go on LOL. FYI I probably wouldn't have came if it wasn't for the pandemic and went back to Medellin, unless I get sick and die I damn near want to thank COVID 19 LOL. I say that in jest but I'm fuckin loving Brasil I'm the dumb one sperto for not having came already.

BMo814
11-28-20, 04:54
It's like the bag of lay's can't just have one. I'm light weight stressed figuring who imma bang with I get back to sp LOL. I have a little cutie all in my Twitter dms name Isabella T telling them all the things she wants to do to me. Another one I met on the first leg of the trip even gave me her personal WhatsApp and been writing me checking on me in Rio. And every time I open up that Twitter it's one I see sucking dick or giving up the see you that makes me want her LOL. I'm going all out my last three days of sp, anyone know how to start an Iv?! I might need it on my way to the airport after what I'm going to do once I get back to SP. Ótimo noite irmãos.

The Critic
11-28-20, 07:09
I loved Sp I went to some restaurant Terraza Rooftop holy shit I think you probably can collect some numbers there if you have any portugus skill. There were groups of gorgeous women. I was with a date but the girl next to me was eye fuckin the shit out of me.Not many mentions on restaurants especially establishments to take dates to, Got to eat in-between sessions. LOL.

Good taste in food and (http://terrazzarooftop.com/) rooftop restaurant, yes there plenty hotties. You may also find equally pleasing at the Unique Hotel Skye Bar (https://www.hotelunique.com/pt/restaurante-bar/skye/) and the Sutton Sao Paulo. Pre-COVID I was amazed at the sights.

DreamCarnarvon
11-28-20, 13:11
Yes, most likely more girls are coming back now because of the holiday season, plus a lot of them had months off with little or no money coming in, and they are finally more comfortable with going back to work. Either way it's good news.

Speaking of being comfortable, I have buddies that are still afraid or uneasy to go and want to wait until next year. They have to wait and can only enjoy the stories and whatever photos I share with them.

Your post made me laugh because many times I also end up extending my trips. The previous trip, just 2 months ago, I extended for 11 days. Three years ago I ended up staying for 35 days for a trip that was originally only 3 weeks. That trip was split. SP first, then Rio, and back for a week at SP. I was having such a good time I had to extend 2 more weeks. I was using miles too so it was an easy swap of the return date.So had the chance to ask a receptionist at one of the clinicas and confirmed that from Christmas to New Year, the clinicas have a limited lineup. She told me after Jan. 4th is when all the girls will come back to work. I am still debating how long I should extend til. I'm kinda leaning towards after Christmas but before New Year.

For guys in their 60's or older I can understand why they would be afraid as they are in the more vulnerable group. I can't tell what other people to do, but for me, I'm in my prime years and I've made up my minds 3 years ago that I'm going to enjoy life to the fullest. I ain't going to wait till I retire, relying on blue pills to keep an erection. I don't want to waste what I have now. Sure that day when I'm old, bald and wrinkly will eventually come, when the girls have to pretend that enjoy the sex with me. That will truly be a sorrowful day for me when it arrives. Maybe then will I settle down a bit and get me a long term GF.

DreamCarnarvon
11-28-20, 13:24
Speaking of clubs/clinicas, etc, back in the late 2000's I banged a girl in the afternoon for 150, two hours-two sessions. I had originally met her someplace else and took her number, so this was a programa set by sms. Anyway, while at the apartment she told me she normally works at Barbarellas for 400 reais (this was in Rio). Like you said, just goes to show you. In all of these years after visiting both SP and Rio dozens of times, I never had the desire to go inside Barbarellas. I don't think it's worth the price they ask while inside. Besides, plenty of girls all over the place.

Another thing about the clubs, sure it can be fun if you are with a few buddies or just enjoy that atmosphere. But the costs are up. If I go to a place like Scandallo and Bomboa for example, it's just to mingle and get phone numbers for later. I think it's a waste of money to pay R230 (or whatever the rate is) for the room. There are plenty of sexy young things in the clinicas and on the sites to make a guy happy.I have walked pass by Barbarellas many times when I used to frequent Rio a lot. Never felt the urge to go there. That place is a straight up trap. Never visited any of the termas in Copacabana or Ipanema. Hell I couldn't even tell you where they are if you asked me. But I ddi frequent the termas in Centro and Mosaico in VM. Sadly, the talent level has really dropped off in the last couple of years.

Speaking for myself, if I want to splurge, I could and have meet escorts on SPlove and Clubmodel. Plenty of 8's and 9's. Normal price is around R400 for incall all inclusive. No need to pay cover fee, have girls ask you to buy drinks for them, or paying extra to use a room.

And your statement "There are plenty of sexy young things in the clinicas and on the sites to make a guy happy" is the statement of the year! Cheers my friend.

XXL
11-28-20, 16:56
Nicole and Victoria are 2 girls with big booties but still curvy bodies in this clinica. I can recommend both of them.

Working girls in Brazil are cool. 9 out of 10 are out to do their best and satisfy the client. Hardly any playing princess, except maybe in high-end clubs.

Covid brewing again in the background in Sao Paulo. Heading for another lockdown. Time to collect girls' Whatsapps in case they close the casas.

Anyways, no extension beyond 90 days for EU-Schengen guys like me so it must be good-bye Brazil by the end of December. Retaliatory visa policy. One EU guy is not allowed to have his Brazilian sweetheart over long-term, and another EU-guy is not allowed to spend his pension money long-term in Brazil. Lose-lose.

DreamCarnarvon
11-28-20, 18:35
I don't want to spread rumors or cause panic for people who are coming to Brazil in December but covid19 casas are on the rise in most of the states in Brazil. According to riotimesonline.com, a reliable English news outlet on Brazil, published an article stating that the SP governor could reinstate restrictions to contain the surge. I myself was thinking about extending my stay in SP until Christmas or so but now I'll have to regroup and rethink it through again. Damn 2020!

Hobbying
11-29-20, 05:56
Not many mentions on restaurants especially establishments to take dates to, Got to eat in-between sessions. LOL.

Good taste in food and (http://terrazzarooftop.com/) rooftop restaurant, yes there plenty hotties. You may also find equally pleasing at the Unique Hotel Skye Bar (https://www.hotelunique.com/pt/restaurante-bar/skye/) and the Sutton Sao Paulo. Pre-COVID I was amazed at the sights.The pros are there all the time, they're to work.

Nuupter
11-29-20, 18:38
Connection and Scandallo has the same owner. Connection is slightly cheaper. But the top girls know they can make more money at Scandallo so they eventually end up there.

Scandallo during my visit had about 10 new girls every day, some worked elsewhere others never worked at all if they are telling the truth. So because of the pandemic many girls started prostitution because they lost their jobs or need to support their family. In any case, the girls are clients of the club also and girls are not turned away no matter what they look like.

Unless the girls go everyday, there is an entrance fee 250 R for the girls also so this weeds out many of the girls that simply cannot compete. So there are 8+ but do not be surprised to see some 5's also.

In terms of the girls' prices, everyone has there own value and price. Some girls quoted me 1000 R for 1 hour others 500 R, while some quoted 1000 R or 3000 R for the whole night. One thing for sure, they never forget how much you paid them in the past and will expect the same price each time.

On average last week, I paid 600 R for one hour or 1500 R for the whole day. Previous weeks, I was paying 500 R for one hour or 800 R for the night. If the girls knows you will give her more than just money such as gifts etc they will lower their prices.

Many girls told me they got 1000 R for one hour from gringos because they are willing to pay that price. So do not be price shocked when a girls ask for 1000 R since they have gotten that price in the past.Or they remember the price paid before, and ask for double and sometimes triple the price a few days later or months later when you want to meet again.

Azn Safado
11-29-20, 19:47
I was chatting with a girl on Whatsapp who used to work at Bomboa and Scandallo the other day. She said that Bomboa had re-opened this past Tuesday 24-Nov.

It's at a new location and is now called Bomboa 40 (formerly Bomboa 222). It's located in Itaim Bibi at Rua Andre Goncalves 40. The new location is smaller than the previous Bomboa.

Had another friend send Whatsapp to their management and they said prices are R$150 entrance with total consumption. Rooms are R$170 and take out fee is R$150. Seems better to just take the girl out and back to your place. Girls asking price is negotiable like the previous Bomboa.

Website has minimal info:

https://bomboa40.com.br/

Kcrl01
11-30-20, 05:58
Hey anyone in Sao Paulo know what's up with:

https://www.photoacompanhantes.com

They seem to be off-line.

Cheers.

Pipe Layer99
11-30-20, 10:10
I was chatting with a girl on Whatsapp who used to work at Bomboa and Scandallo the other day. She said that Bomboa had re-opened this past Tuesday 24-Nov.
It's at a new location and is now called Bomboa 40 (formerly Bomboa 222). It's located in Itaim Bibi at Rua Andre Goncalves 40. The new location is smaller than the previous Bomboa.
Had another friend send Whatsapp to their management and they said prices are R$150 entrance with total consumption. Rooms are R$170 and take out fee is R$150. Seems better to just take the girl out and back to your place. Girls asking price is negotiable like the previous Bomboa.
Website has minimal info:
https://bomboa40.com.br/Thanks for the update. Bomboa is an attraction and the price is ok too. You are right, taking the girl back to your room will be much more fun and a more relaxed.

Mcd2293
11-30-20, 18:21
I was chatting with a girl on Whatsapp who used to work at Bomboa and Scandallo the other day. She said that Bomboa had re-opened this past Tuesday 24-Nov.

It's at a new location and is now called Bomboa 40 (formerly Bomboa 222). It's located in Itaim Bibi at Rua Andre Goncalves 40. The new location is smaller than the previous Bomboa.

Had another friend send Whatsapp to their management and they said prices are R$150 entrance with total consumption. Rooms are R$170 and take out fee is R$150. Seems better to just take the girl out and back to your place. Girls asking price is negotiable like the previous Bomboa.

Website has minimal info:

https://bomboa40.com.br/Loving this report. I'll be back in Sao Paulo in 2 weeks and will check this spot out. Will write a report on my thoughts when I swing by there. I've been wanting to find another club besides Scandallo and Connection and am glad to hear Bomboa decided to join the mix.

YippieKayay
11-30-20, 21:38
If you're planning on using Photo Acompanhantes a lot don't go to SP during the weekends. Most garotas or whoever is dispatching take the weekends off. You'll see a lot of whatsapp contacts being offline during the weekend. That was a surprise for me.

Otherwise SP was alright. The boate scene seems dead. I only tried 2028 Bar Augusta and it was a joke. It was empty at night. They told me to come back at 10 PM but I didn't. For clinicas I stuck to Tangara which had alright looking women, and Photo Acompanhantes. Spent more time in Rio which I loved. Will post a note on that thread of my experience.

Steve 9696
11-30-20, 23:01
If you're planning on using Photo Acompanhantes a lot don't go to SP during the weekends. Most garotas or whoever is dispatching take the weekends off. You'll see a lot of whatsapp contacts being offline during the weekend. That was a surprise for me.

Otherwise SP was alright. The boate scene seems dead. I only tried 2028 Bar Augusta and it was a joke. It was empty at night. They told me to come back at 10 PM but I didn't. For clinicas I stuck to Tangara which had alright looking women, and Photo Acompanhantes. Spent more time in Rio which I loved. Will post a note on that thread of my experience.What do you call night? In SP 10 pm is super early at the Boates. 12 am it's rocking. 4 Am its still going strong. Before ten? Don't bother.

YippieKayay
11-30-20, 23:18
What do you call night? In SP 10 pm is super early at the Boates. 12 am it's rocking. 4 Am its still going strong. Before ten? Don't bother.Do you mean pre-COVID? I remember it was like that but right now the scene is pretty dead. I'm not counting Cafe Photo or Scandaloo.

Steve 9696
11-30-20, 23:37
Do you mean pre-COVID? I remember it was like that but right now the scene is pretty dead. I'm not counting Cafe Photo or Scandaloo.Yes. My experience is pre Covid. But I don't think the culture has changed. The party starts late in Brazil. I went to a club in CDS at ten and there was not a single girl. By 11 there were 15. This was a small club but 10 is just early everywhere. Went to a club in Campinas at ten and I was literally the only guy in the place! (8 girls).

Just sayin don't judge anything at or before ten pm.

Hobbying
12-01-20, 19:59
I was chatting with a girl on Whatsapp who used to work at Bomboa and Scandallo the other day. She said that Bomboa had re-opened this past Tuesday 24-Nov.

It's at a new location and is now called Bomboa 40 (formerly Bomboa 222). It's located in Itaim Bibi at Rua Andre Goncalves 40. The new location is smaller than the previous Bomboa.

Had another friend send Whatsapp to their management and they said prices are R$150 entrance with total consumption. Rooms are R$170 and take out fee is R$150. Seems better to just take the girl out and back to your place. Girls asking price is negotiable like the previous Bomboa.

Website has minimal info:

https://bomboa40.com.br/Their old site is down, they should have redirected to the new site.

Smaller, wonder how many girls are there. I'll see next week.

I only met one girl in Scandallo that told me she use to be at Bomboa, no idea where they all went.

Many girls from Cafe Photo at Scandallo now.

Hobbying
12-01-20, 20:13
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN28A2LK

So places have to close earlier now they are in yellow zone.

Does not affect Scandallo unless the city turns to red zone, don't know about the clinicas.

50 k new cases 2 days ago, second wave.

The Cane
12-02-20, 00:00
Their old site is down, they should have redirected to the new site.

Smaller, wonder how many girls are there. I'll see next week.

I only met one girl in Scandallo that told me she use to be at Bomboa, no idea where they all went.

Many girls from Cafe Photo at Scandallo now.What's the latest on Cafe Photo? Is it coming back or what? Hottest piece of ass I found in Sampa last time was at Cafe Photo, and she was a good fuck too. And great to see that Bomboa is still kicking!

BMo814
12-02-20, 02:29
Got to fuck on this lovely today I thought she looked better than the photos. And sucked a damn good dick. Was tryna get a dupla with Antonella de Mari and Bella Salgado but they were talking some stupid prices. Smh.

https://twitter.com/deusa_loira20?s=21

Incrociatore
12-03-20, 03:51
This is my first trip to Sao Paulo and I have a bunch of questions. I can't send private messages yet, so please don't ask me to pm. If you are willing to answer, please do it here. If you provide a contribution I will do the same, like I did in the Medellin forum.

Here the questions:

1) I read Uber is cheaper, even cheaper than in Medellin, at least on Numbeo. Is that true?

2) I have seen I can rent a car for 10 Euro / day, which is nothing really. I do like OTR a lot, it used to be a passion for me, but in Europe is not possible anymore. In Sao Paulo is still a thing? Can I found some hot girls on the road and have sex in the car? Would I spend more than 10 Euro in taxi, considering I want to fuck 4 girls per day, and I will eat (if restaurants are still open) always outside?

3) I'm going to stay in Campo Belo. I have checked the map and most of the working girls are in the Jardins or Villa Olimpia area, which is not too far. Considering that, is Uber still a good option, or I will definitely save some money if I rent a car? I have a free parking slot where I will be staying.

4) I can read Portuguese, most likely, but I do not speak it. So I read local forums, and I visited all the escort websites I could find. In some of these you can find prices. And they are usually between 150/200 per hour, even for very hot girls. Are these actual prices or the girls, like in Colombia, they do bot offer BBBJ included, and they do not kiss? My basic request is 1 hour, 2 shots, BBBK and French kisses. Is usually included in the menu for 150/200?

5) I read about Scandallo and these other places, but I'm not interested in clubs. I do not like them. But it looks like e everyone is going there, on in other clubs, and I do not understand why. There is so much offer on the Internet, and prices are lower than the entrance ticket. Why do people go in clubs? Please explain.

6) Are usually the photo on the Internet real, or they are not?

7) If anyone of you is in Sao Paulo now, can you tell me if the restaurants are open? I mean, can you eat in the restaurants or there any restrictions?

8) Years ago, can't recall exactly when, but definitely more than 10 years ago, probably 15 or even more, two friends went to Brasil and they had a lot of free sex. They claimed, at least. Most likely they paid in some way, dinner, etc. Is still possible? We are talking about normal guys, not particularly good looking in their early 30 (if my math is correct). Now, I'm not really interested in free, especially if the girls are cheap, because I can afford, but I would like to cap my budget for sex at 800 per day, Brazilian Real, not dollars.

9) Do you have any advise on things I should do and things I should completely avoid? Any area of the city you strongly do not recommend? I have a great sense of the street, and I have been in dangerous place, but I don't want to get killed.

10) Which is the best mobile operator and which is the best plan I can get for the money? I will do any call, but I will use Internet a lot.

That's all for now.

BMo814
12-03-20, 17:59
This is my first trip to Sao Paulo and I have a bunch of questions. I can't send private messages yet, so please don't ask me to pm. If you are willing to answer, please do it here. If you provide a contribution I will do the same, like I did in the Medellin forum.

Here the questions:

1) I read Uber is cheaper, even cheaper than in Medellin, at least on Numbeo. Is that true?

2) I have seen I can rent a car for 10 Euro / day, which is nothing really. I do like OTR a lot, it used to be a passion for me, but in Europe is not possible anymore. In Sao Paulo is still a thing? Can I found some hot girls on the road and have sex in the car? Would I spend more than 10 Euro in taxi, considering I want to fuck 4 girls per day, and I will eat (if restaurants are still open) always outside?

3) I'm going to stay in Campo Belo. I have checked the map and most of the working girls are in the Jardins or Villa Olimpia area, which is not too far. Considering that, is Uber still a good option, or I will definitely save some money if I rent a car? I have a free parking slot where I will be staying.

4) I can read Portuguese, most likely, but I do not speak it. So I read local forums, and I visited all the escort websites I could find. In some of these you can find prices. And they are usually between 150/200 per hour, even for very hot girls. Are these actual prices or the girls, like in Colombia, they do bot offer BBBJ included, and they do not kiss? My basic request is 1 hour, 2 shots, BBBK and French kisses. Is usually included in the menu for 150/200?

5) I read about Scandallo and these other places, but I'm not interested in clubs. I do not like them. But it looks like e everyone is going there, on in other clubs, and I do not understand why. There is so much offer on the Internet, and prices are lower than the entrance ticket. Why do people go in clubs? Please explain.

6) Are usually the photo on the Internet real, or they are not?

7) If anyone of you is in Sao Paulo now, can you tell me if the restaurants are open? I mean, can you eat in the restaurants or there any restrictions?

8) Years ago, can't recall exactly when, but definitely more than 10 years ago, probably 15 or even more, two friends went to Brasil and they had a lot of free sex. They claimed, at least. Most likely they paid in some way, dinner, etc. Is still possible? We are talking about normal guys, not particularly good looking in their early 30 (if my math is correct). Now, I'm not really interested in free, especially if the girls are cheap, because I can afford, but I would like to cap my budget for sex at 800 per day, Brazilian Real, not dollars.

9) Do you have any advise on things I should do and things I should completely avoid? Any area of the city you strongly do not recommend? I have a great sense of the street, and I have been in dangerous place, but I don't want to get killed.

10) Which is the best mobile operator and which is the best plan I can get for the money? I will do any call, but I will use Internet a lot.

That's all for now.That's a lot of questions bro. Right now yes, all restaurants are open. Most of the hot girls on PA are asking R300-400 if you got to their location. If they come to you R400-500 . Yes all do BBJ and kiss. Only one chick I seen didn't want to kiss but that's not a deal breaker for me she was 21 with a smoking body. I don't know SP that well but I don't think it's a place with many street walkers and giving the reputation of Brasil I don't know if you want to be driving around picking up girls, I would imagine the places the girls are wouldn't be that safe. It sounds like you might like the CLínicas, from the forum that's where the best deals will be had. All the girls on line from any site are asking R300 -400 at least that I have encountered.

BMo814
12-03-20, 18:02
This cutie from PA charged R700 for 2 hours to come to me.

Ksa Sing
12-03-20, 19:46
This is my first trip to Sao Paulo and I have a bunch of questions. I can't send private messages yet, so please don't ask me to pm. If you are willing to answer, please do it here. If you provide a contribution I will do the same, like I did in the Medellin forum.

Here the questions:

1) I read Uber is cheaper, even cheaper than in Medellin, at least on Numbeo. Is that true?

2) I have seen I can rent a car for 10 Euro / day, which is nothing really. I do like OTR a lot, it used to be a passion for me, but in Europe is not possible anymore. In Sao Paulo is still a thing? Can I found some hot girls on the road and have sex in the car? Would I spend more than 10 Euro in taxi, considering I want to fuck 4 girls per day, and I will eat (if restaurants are still open) always outside?

3) I'm going to stay in Campo Belo. I have checked the map and most of the working girls are in the Jardins or Villa Olimpia area, which is not too far. Considering that, is Uber still a good option, or I will definitely save some money if I rent a car? I have a free parking slot where I will be staying.

4) I can read Portuguese, most likely, but I do not speak it. So I read local forums, and I visited all the escort websites I could find. In some of these you can find prices. And they are usually between 150/200 per hour, even for very hot girls. Are these actual prices or the girls, like in Colombia, they do bot offer BBBJ included, and they do not kiss? My basic request is 1 hour, 2 shots, BBBK and French kisses. Is usually included in the menu for 150/200?.Uber is very cheap and very efficient. It's cheaper than I've seen anywhere. I either use Uber or rent a car, depending on where I am staying and availability of parking. If you like driving renting a car is great. Last month I used a lot of Uber. The average ride cost me about $3. This trip (I leave today) I'll use Uber in town and rent a car for a beach trip.

For phones, I had a Claro SIM card but it expired. Getting a new one was easiest at Vivo. It does take some time and you need an ID. The Vivo store at Ibirapuera mall was pretty good.

XXL
12-03-20, 19:59
My session with Victoria at Abobbora Clinic was aborted as her monthly bleeding exploded there and then. She offered to relinquish her 150 R. Usually I have no patience with girls' periods but this time I was eager to get her Whatsapp ahead of a forthcoming lockdown, so I gave her 100. Victoria's blowjob is a phenomenon unto itself if blowjobs are your thing!

Second and final session with Tiffany at Miruna's. Good session, but will not repeat as Tiffany is not really my type, more like the type of girls you would pull from a gogo in Thailand (petite with girlish face but boyish figure).

Just had my first Ueber asshole in Sao Paulo. Short ride to Shopping Vila Olimpia, driver a black man with blood-shot eyes who refused to be drawn into conversation. At a traffic light, he went on his Whatsapp to write the following, unawares I was peeping over his shoulder: "o cara sai do Hotel *** e pede promo" which translates as "this fellow emerges from hotel *** and asks for a discount".

Explanation:

This fellow = myself, his passenger.

Hotel *** = the high-end (actually only upper mid-range) hotel within which my Airbnb is situated.

Discount = UeberPromo, some 5% cheaper than UeberX.

It didn't occur to this asshole that from my side of the Ueber App, I was not "asking for a discount" but just availing myself of one of the options presented to me. Anyways, henceforth I shall avoid UeberPromo as it seems to make drivers resentful. At the present exchange rate, one thing I am definitely not into is saving pennies on rides.

Note that Clinica girls will come early to your hotel for the same short time one-hour rate as the clinica rate (typically 250).

Steve 9696
12-03-20, 20:03
I would definitely Uber. It's super cheap. You can go across town for like $5. I was amazed. It will cost more than the car probably but totally worth it. Traffic in SP sucks. You will save so much stress and it's so cheap.

We go to Scandallo for the EXPERIENCE. Yes you can fuck the same girl thru some other means for less. But some of us LOVE the club experience:

150 hotties. They all want you. Drink your drink. Survey the buffet. Chat up some girls (easier if you speak a bit). Pick your girl. Dance chat kiss flirt for a while (30–120 minutes). Go to room. Enjoy! Repeat if you like and your wallet can stand it. There is nothing like a girl buffet in a nice club for many of us.

The Cane
12-03-20, 21:13
I would definitely Uber. It's super cheap. You can go across town for like $5. I was amazed. It will cost more than the car probably but totally worth it. Traffic in SP sucks. You will save so much stress and it's so cheap.

We go to Scandallo for the EXPERIENCE. Yes you can fuck the same girl thru some other means for less. But some of us LOVE the club experience:

150 hotties. They all want you. Drink your drink. Survey the buffet. Chat up some girls (easier if you speak a bit). Pick your girl. Dance chat kiss flirt for a while (30120 minutes). Go to room. Enjoy! Repeat if you like and your wallet can stand it. There is nothing like a girl buffet in a nice club for many of us.People don't for a minute believe that it's as easy to get the same girls as to just go to the clinicas in the daytime. If it was, then don't you think I would do that? I don't because that's not how it is, as much as I wish it was. I'm for saving some money like the next guy. If I knew I could get the same girls for a fraction of the price, then I would be asking myself the same thing. Why am I going to the clubs? People like Steve know why.

Incrociatore
12-04-20, 01:42
What do you call night? In SP 10 pm is super early at the Boates. 12 am it's rocking. 4 Am its still going strong. Before ten? Don't bother.In Colombia was hard to find a girl after 22. Almost impossible after midnight, not the prepagos at least. I'm a night person, I hope Brazil will be better from this point of you. I'm already saving on the accommodation. I hope I will find better girls for the same price.

Meistro1
12-04-20, 11:16
The last two escorts I had over from photoaccompanhants were only 200 reals for the hour (actually one was wanting only 150 but I gave her 200), although a lot of girls are charging a bit more. And these are smoking hot 20 something girls with great service. Also want to re-iterate the advice that has been given on this forum before to stick to girls with lots of positive TDs (and if the girl has only one or two TDs make sure they are from someone with a lot of TDs, not someone with just 1 or 2 TDs). I had a number of dissatisfying experiences despite reading this advice before implementing it, now I have been having nothing but great sessions.

Turgid
12-04-20, 19:06
This cutie from PA charged R700 for 2 hours to come to me.Are those knockers augmentated?

Hobbying
12-05-20, 00:37
What's the latest on Cafe Photo? Is it coming back or what? Hottest piece of ass I found in Sampa last time was at Cafe Photo, and she was a good fuck too. And great to see that Bomboa is still kicking!Girl from Photo who has been working there several years said it will reopen.

Photo has a large gringo clients and now the gringo business travelers are a lot less they may not be in such a rush to reopen.

Hobbying
12-05-20, 00:38
Are those knockers augmentated?Pretty sure.

BMo814
12-05-20, 10:22
Pretty sure.Yes they were, aren't most here in Brazil? LOL.

BMo814
12-05-20, 13:48
The last two escorts I had over from photoaccompanhants were only 200 reals for the hour (actually one was wanting only 150 but I gave her 200), although a lot of girls are charging a bit more. And these are smoking hot 20 something girls with great service. Also want to re-iterate the advice that has been given on this forum before to stick to girls with lots of positive TDs (and if the girl has only one or two TDs make sure they are from someone with a lot of TDs, not someone with just 1 or 2 TDs). I had a number of dissatisfying experiences despite reading this advice before implementing it, now I have been having nothing but great sessions.Post one link of a GP on PA with verified photos, and positive TD's that charge R200.

BMo814
12-05-20, 15:38
I usually don't do this kinda thang bcuz I don't knock anyone on how they do it or how they live. We all human but my guy irritated me, so y’all can see we don't talk about it we be about it. Check out the Hilton bro, it's nice. I make it to blow it , can’t take it with me

The Cane
12-05-20, 16:40
No one likes a cheap skate. I been in Brazil 2 weeks now taking Uber black bcuz the difference is so minimal, 3 dollars here and there ain't going to break me and if it does maybe you should stay home and save more.And it's being a cheapskate that leads mongers to say things like the clinica girls look just as good as the top nightclub girls (no they don't), or that the same girls who work in the nightclubs work in the clinicas in the daytime (some do but the overwhelming majority don't). Again, If you don't want to spend the money for the hottest girls just admit it. But don't mislead by using a bunch of rationalizations to tell other mongers that the clinicas offer the exact same quality as what can be found in the nightclubs. Yes, you can find some gems at the clinicas. But if you are into "optics" and are willing to part with the coin to acquire it, then you need to play in the Sampa "night league" too.

Member #4698
12-05-20, 21:14
Yes, you can find some gems at the clinicas. But if you are into "optics" and are willing to part with the coin to acquire it, then you need to play in the Sampa "night league" too.Sounds good to me. Clinicas and call girls in the afternoon, Termas girls at night. Count me in! And don't forget a great meal in between.

Hobbying
12-05-20, 23:40
I love going to Brasil because people there do not care about the color of your skin. Even in the south of Brasil where people are predominantly of European background, I do not get the sense of any racism. It has been shown with genetic testing that almost all Brazilians have some African decent since 50% of the population is of color. I've met plenty of girls who are mixed but could not tell by the way they look.

In the south there are white favelas, in the north black favela, in SP the favelas have all sorts of people.

Like any other place in the World, it is more about social status.

Steve 9696
12-06-20, 00:19
Sounds good to me. Clinicas and call girls in the afternoon, Termas girls at night. Count me in! And don't forget a great meal in between.Hey Natty. Welcome to SP from Thailand. You definitely have the right plan. Do both the Clinica and Boate and an Outcall just for good measure. If you like the "scene" Boate is going to win. But everyone's different. My first time in SP I did five sessions with four girls (repeated my Casarao hottie) in my first 24 hours after landing! And hit all three types. Recommend going batshit crazy like I did. Was a ton of fun.

And there are high end Clnicas and lower end and high end Boates and lower end. Honestly there are pretty girls at all the venues below. So much is difference in facilities and experience. Just pick your poison. Here's a summary and some links for you and other newbies. This was all precovid -2018 and 2019.

Tangar - Clinica. Low end facilities. Like a Ramada Inn or Motel 6.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2214410&viewfull=1#post2214410.

Abbobora. Clinica - high end facilities. Like a Westin or Hyatt.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2350478&viewfull=1#post2350478.

Casarao. Boate. Lower end bar. Like a narrow packed bar but with hotties.

Casarao

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2214355&viewfull=1#post2214355.


Scandallo. High End Boate- Like a deluxe mega club in Vegas.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2351954&viewfull=1#post2351954.

XXL
12-06-20, 01:25
Hey Natty. Welcome to SP from Thailand. You definitely have the right plan. Do both the Clinica and Boate and an Outcall just for good measure. If you like the "scene" Boate is going to win. But everyone's different. My first time in SP I did five sessions with four girls (repeated my Casarao hottie) in my first 24 hours after landing! And hit all three types. Recommend going batshit crazy like I did. Was a ton of fun.

And there are high end Clnicas and lower end and high end Boates and lower end. Honestly there are pretty girls at all the venues below. So much is difference in facilities and experience. Just pick your poison. Here's a summary and some links for you and other newbies. This was all precovid -2018 and 2019.

Tangar - Clinica. Low end facilities. Like a Ramada Inn or Motel 6.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2214410&viewfull=1#post2214410.

Abbobora. Clinica - high end facilities. Like a Westin or Hyatt.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2350478&viewfull=1#post2350478.

Casarao. Boate. Lower end bar. Like a narrow packed bar but with hotties.

Casarao

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2214355&viewfull=1#post2214355.


Scandallo. High End Boate- Like a deluxe mega club in Vegas.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2351954&viewfull=1#post2351954.Who needs your "pre-covid" rehashes of outdated posts? My guess is that you and your aliases have never been anywhere near Sao Paulo.

Abobbora Clinica like a Hyatt my foot. Only if you have never been there.

Casarao has been closed for months.

No money to travel? Taking revenge by deliberately misleading forum members?

Steve 9696
12-06-20, 02:14
Ima going to go with LOL Block XXL DNFTT. High recommend.

BMo814
12-06-20, 02:19
Since we taking the forum to all different levels check out the Afro brasileño museum in Parque Ibirapuera, cultivate your mind too. It's healthy, too much Fox News fucks you up.

BMo814
12-06-20, 02:25
A couple of why'all dudes seem like you need to bust some more nuts. All these beautiful women you are fuckin and still walking around with ya face red, veins popping out ya neck. Have a drink and call one of those clinic girls over and pound them in the ass and chill out. I don't get it. You go out the country to relax and forget about life's problems right. I was like damn these dudes wild, but now I just feel sorry for them. They on monger review boards talking politics, sending messages full of hate, life must really be bad bro. It's ok, it will be ok man, hang in there.

BMo814
12-06-20, 02:33
Sounds good to me. Clinicas and call girls in the afternoon, Termas girls at night. Count me in! And don't forget a great meal in between.Can't remember the name of the place but it's an Argentinian parrilla next to Wyndham Paulista.

Member #4698
12-06-20, 02:46
I do not care what anyone says. Thanks for the info, Steve. I am really up for this trip. Upon arrival in SP, I plan to hit the Clinca Abbobora & Scandallo, but after that who knows where I will go and who I will do because when I like a particular parlor, a bar, or club, I tend to go back often not to do any one girl, but to sample around. I like high quality variety.

I guess all I am saying is it takes me a longtime to fully check a new town, see all the worthwhile sites, I. E. , many trips because I tend to go back to the Go Go's, Parlors, Spas, Clubs etc. That I like best and never return to the joints I see no promise in. Thus, the better a town's #1, #2 #3 honky tonks are, the longer it takes me to fully explore that town. Hell, I have been visiting BKK since 1989 and there are still some out of the way Ramada / Hotel 6 type Gentlemen Clubs & Soapies that I have never been to, YET. LOL. And since I do not think I have changed my leopard spots; I have a feeling that I might tend to repeat the Clincas and Boates that I really like and will leave a lot of good 2nd tier establishments on the table for next time and the time after.

But I really want to check out Scandallo, Bomboa and Clinca Abbobora this trip, so I think I will. HA HA. Even with this fuckin pandemic still going on, I have a feeling I am going to meet a lot of sexy girls and have a great time.

Member #4698
12-06-20, 04:30
Can't remember the name of the place but it's an Argentinian parrilla next to Wyndham Paulista.You ate that whole steak! WOW, I am impressed. Ha Ha.

Since I know I am going, I have been doing a little research on quality eateries in RJ & SP. I now have a long list eligible restaurants. Turns out SP is a foodie town. I think I knew that before I researched it, but Great news! I like tasty food.

Turgid
12-06-20, 15:10
I usually don't do this kinda thang bcuz I don't knock anyone on how they do it or how they live. We all human but my guy irritated me, so yall can see we don't talk about it we be about it. Check out the Hilton bro, it's nice. I make it to blow it , cant take it with meA guy who posts photos of cuties he's banging always wins over other blokes. Well done. I have visited many countries and always post photos on ISG of my garotas because Brazilian girls are the most willing to have their photos taken. I think its obvious why.

SoberHans69
12-06-20, 15:19
Just read on a local forum that Cafe Photo is going to reopen as Lotus Club.

I added Scandallo on Instagram last week and got an invite from Lotus Club and was wondering why I'd never read anything about it.

Just hoping Casarao opens up before my first trip in January.

HarvestBoi
12-06-20, 15:38
You are making me very envious, my friend. You are doing it right IMO. The art in Sampa was extraordinary, nearly as wonderful as the garotas. I was there during the biennale. Good to hear the Hilton is girl friendly, it's a top drawer hotel, although I really didn't care for Morumbi as a neighborhood. Have fun for all of us trapped in Pandemia.


Since we taking the forum to all different levels check out the Afro brasileo museum in Parque Ibirapuera, cultivate your mind too. It's healthy, too much Fox News fucks you up.

Hobbying
12-06-20, 20:32
Just read on a local forum that Cafe Photo is going to reopen as Lotus Club.

I added Scandallo on Instagram last week and got an invite from Lotus Club and was wondering why I'd never read anything about it.

Just hoping Casarao opens up before my first trip in January.On the GP forum, Lotus is at the original location and Cafe Foto will be at a new location.

Meistro1
12-06-20, 20:35
Post one link of a GP on PA with verified photos, and positive TD's that charge R200.https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/zona-norte/anal-incluso-varias-finaliza%C3%A7oes-ultimo-mes-id-a6vhj

BMo814
12-06-20, 23:29
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/zona-norte/anal-incluso-varias-finaliza%C3%A7oes-ultimo-mes-id-a6vhjYou seen her and it was her? Good for you my guy I'm not as adventurous. It's funny the day I asked that I seen some GP's on Twitter laughing at guys she would hear complain in the hotel lobby it wasn't the GP in the photos. What she said is what you expect when she is charging the price of a banana and has a location .But I'm glad you won! I was just nervous to take that chance after what some of the vets had said about that. https://twitter.com/cristalweedon43/status/1335007201568698368?s=21.

BMo814
12-06-20, 23:34
A guy who posts photos of cuties he's banging always wins over other blokes. Well done. I have visited many countries and always post photos on ISG of my garotas because Brazilian girls are the most willing to have their photos taken. I think its obvious why.No competition, I got a little out of character. I don't use ISG for BS. I like to read about where I'm going and contribute for the guy making up his mind like some of the great guys on here have helped me to do. Happy hunting fellas, fuck GPS, have fun. Later with the other stuff.

Gigi Buffon
12-07-20, 02:37
You ate that whole steak! WOW, I am impressed. Ha Ha.

Since I know I am going, I have been doing a little research on quality eateries in RJ & SP. I now have a long list eligible restaurants. Turns out SP is a foodie town. I think I knew that before I researched it, but Great news! I like tasty food.São Paulo, Lima and México City by far best cities to eat in Latin America. Happy to share some great places in Sampa, if you let me know, what kind of culinary do you prefer. Needless to say that offering in meat, Italian, Japanese, Brazilian, Pizza, Portuguese and French food is awesome. There is even a good Thai with a Brazilian touch that is worth visiting.

Meistro1
12-07-20, 02:48
Not her specifically but the last two girls I had over for 200 were both very attractive.

https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/ninfeta-namoradinha-com-local-discreto-id-fav5b

This was actually the last girl I had over. 350, a little pricey, but money well spent. 5'4, 50kg, really bubbly personality and great BBBJ and DFK. 19 years old from Brazilia. Was actually glowing for a couple hours after the experience haha, and we didn't even have intercourse. But her head game was on point.

https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/gata-sarada-especialista-em-te-dar-prazer-venha-conhecer-id-aujws

This one only wanted 150, although I gave her 200 cause I'm a nice guy.

Ptgbac
12-07-20, 05:17
That's a lot of questions bro. Right now yes, all restaurants are open. Most of the hot girls on PA are asking R300-400 if you got to their location. If they come to you R400-500 . Yes all do BBJ and kiss. Only one chick I seen didn't want to kiss but that's not a deal breaker for me she was 21 with a smoking body. I don't know SP that well but I don't think it's a place with many street walkers and giving the reputation of Brasil I don't know if you want to be driving around picking up girls, I would imagine the places the girls are wouldn't be that safe. It sounds like you might like the CLnicas, from the forum that's where the best deals will be had. All the girls on line from any site are asking R300 -400 at least that I have encountered.By PA, you mean Porto Alegre?

DukesFord
12-07-20, 20:42
By PA, you mean Porto Alegre?I'm pretty sure he means the website:

https://www.photoacompanhantes.com

Meistro1
12-08-20, 13:31
Yeah I absolutely love the food here, and you cannot beat the value. Most of my meals are like 25-30 reals for a small steak, fries, juice and / or coffee. And the juices are just insane, freshly squeezed, you have the option for with milk and added sugar (strawberry juice with milk is great). Lots of good sandwich options. Not a lot of street vendors here in Itaim, although I found one guy who was doing BBQ skewers outside a restaurant (actually it was all part of the restaurant technically, the guy was just an employee). 7 reals for a juicy BBQ beef skewer. My hotel has a nice buffet breakfast, even with the pandemic, it's a little restrictive because everything needs to be wrapped but its fine. Haven't tried too many upscale places, I mostly eat at locals joints, but there appears to be no shortage of fine dining and more expensive places as well. One novelty here I haven't seen anywhere else is they have buffets, but you pay per 100 g. It's actually a kind of interesting idea, gives you the selection and choice but at the same time you don't feel like you have to eat your money's worth. A lot of the nicer places are going to menu's only on your smartphone, which is a bit of the pain in the ass because it's not that easy to get a working SIM card as a tourist. Most places seem to want your tax number.

Turgid
12-08-20, 13:55
I'm pretty sure he means the website:

https://www.photoacompanhantes.comAmong the girls listed there is a Dani from São José dos Campos who is stated as 25 years and priced at R150. Her hip to waist ratio is out of this world. Wish they showed her face.

Neilk
12-08-20, 22:40
Hey guys,

Planning my first trip to SP in January & just wondering if anyone can recommend any Airbnb's / Hotels where I'm able to bring the Chica's home? Looking to stay in the Vila Madelena area or nearby. Had quite a bit of joy using SeekingArrangement in other S American countries. Does it work well here too?

XXL
12-09-20, 01:07
Following a previous post a Mr Smart Guy Snowflake attacked me for not using Ueber Blak instead of UeberX.

Today I called an Ueber Blak for my weekly drive to Zona Leste. During the afternoon peak hour traffic is bad and 50 minutes to one hour are not unusual. This time, however, it took over 2 hours.

After arrival I noticed the drive had cost me 113 R and not the 70 or so I had agreed to on the Ueber App. When I showed this to my Brazilian friends they told me never to use Ueber Blak as the price of Ueber Blak is open-end, and because Ueber Blak get paid for time as well as for mileage, they play for time.

Indeed the driver had not tried once to beat the grid-lock like UeberX drivers did by using real-time navigation and following smaller roads aways from the congested expressway. It had also occurred to me along the way that he had opted for the slowest of the 2 itineraries put forward by Google maps.


... Most places seem to want your tax number.A pain in the neck. If you go to a doctor they may even refuse to print out a proper invoice because their system can't print anything without the damned CPF, so you're left without a proper medical bill for your insurance claim. For other things not involving medical insurance you can use the CPF of a Brazilian friend if you have one. Maybe a garota will accept to "lend" you hers. I get a lower price on my Sagami condoms at Drogarai thanks to the CPF of a Brazilian acquaintance of mine. She doesn't know I'm bulk-buying condoms on her CPF but even if she knew she wouldn't care. I ordered something online, I needed the CPF to fill the order form, and when I went to pay the deposit to the merchant's bank account I needed the CPF. I tried to buy a plane ticket online on the Brazilian website of the airline, no way without a CPF. The list goes on. A CPF is the single most missed item by visitors to Brazil and having someone local lend you theirs is a game-changer.

The Cane
12-09-20, 01:41
So Paulo, Lima and Mxico City by far best cities to eat in Latin America. Happy to share some great places in Sampa, if you let me know, what kind of culinary do you prefer. Needless to say that offering in meat, Italian, Japanese, Brazilian, Pizza, Portuguese and French food is awesome. There is even a good Thai with a Brazilian touch that is worth visiting.If steaks are your thing, then you have to add Buenos Aires and Montevideo.

PussyRiot
12-09-20, 02:27
Following a previous post a Mr Smart Guy Snowflake attacked me for not using Ueber Blak instead of UeberX.
When I showed this to my Brazilian friends they told me never to use Ueber Blak as the price of Ueber Blak is open-end, and because Ueber Blak get paid for time as well as for mileage, they play for time. Interesting information as I thought price was flat once trip is booked with whatever option of choice.

As for promo option, never seen it until arrived at Sao Paulo and it was awesome. Kkkkkk.

BMo814
12-09-20, 05:39
We still want to see some pictures of the girls you fucked not your rants about uber, or Ueber maybe use 99 taxi or whatever it's called I think that's the cheaper option. Maybe you are there for a really long time and have to watch each and every one of the reals, but man I just don't worry about 5-10 dollars that much that's just me dude I don't here in the states I don't there in Brazil I'm just not that worried I noticed they drove slow too but I ain't have shit to do I was on vacation and if this 3 dollars means that much to you driver man, eat your heart out.

Mr Matrix
12-09-20, 11:30
A pain in the neck. If you go to a doctor they may even refuse to print out a proper invoice because their system can't print anything without the damned CPF, so you're left without a proper medical bill for your insurance claim. For other things not involving medical insurance you can use the CPF of a Brazilian friend if you have one. Maybe a garota will accept to "lend" you hers. I get a lower price on my Sagami condoms at Drogarai thanks to the CPF of a Brazilian acquaintance of mine. She doesn't know I'm bulk-buying condoms on her CPF but even if she knew she wouldn't care. I ordered something online, I needed the CPF to fill the order form, and when I went to pay the deposit to the merchant's bank account I needed the CPF. I tried to buy a plane ticket online on the Brazilian website of the airline, no way without a CPF. The list goes on. A CPF is the single most missed item by visitors to Brazil and having someone local lend you theirs is a game-changer.It's easy enough to get a CPF in your name from the Brazilian Consulate in your home country before you travel, it used to need a personal visit to the embassy / consulate but under temporary Covid rules it's all currently being done on-line. http://cglondres.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/cpf.xml.

Nuupter
12-09-20, 23:39
Have anyone been to Spicy Club, Imperium club, Love Story and Lotus Club that is not Cafe Photo? I saw their instagram recently and wonder how is it like. Anyone planning or been there?

The Cane
12-10-20, 00:24
Have anyone been to Spicy Club, Imperium club, Love Story and Lotus Club that is not Cafe Photo? I saw their instagram recently and wonder how is it like. Anyone planning or been there?I went to Love Story late, late, late one night on my first visit to Sao Paulo. Got drunk off my ass! Only the second time in all my trips to Brazil. It was only so-so, although I did leave with somebody. A lot of the girls who work in other clubs throughout the city would show up at Love Story late. I never felt compelled to go back. But glad I did it once. I can check it off my bucket list.

Polyamorist
12-10-20, 04:06
A CPF is the single most missed item by visitors to Brazil and having someone local lend you theirs is a game-changer.Salaam xxL, I don't miss it. I am not a number, I'm a free man! The more somebody tries to push me into doing something, the more suspicious I get, and the less likely I am to do it. I look on the CPF as just the inviting rabbit hole into some godawful Third World morass of bureaucracy. I always argue with all those phone clerks until one of them agrees to give me a SIM without a stupid CPF. There was a 2012 law known as the Gringo Phone Legalization Act or something which obliges them to give you a SIM if you wave your hands about a lot.

Anaggie
12-10-20, 16:04
Weekend in São Paulo was well spent and now back home without catching COVID (shucks).

I had organized two redhead girls from different sites that were both bisexual and we were chatting together on WhatsApp for a week before meeting. I had written a post about this earlier with links to their pages.

Both girls met me for dinner on Friday evening at Jun Sakamoto and we enjoyed an amazing omakase meal. Girls drank 1. 5 bottles of wine and we took the remainder of the bottle back to the hotel. Staying at the Renaissance and I had booked a room with three guests and was able to get upgraded to a larger suite due to my status.

Once we went into the room and the girls got situated, it got exciting with each of us exploring the other and ultimately both girls enjoying each other while I was fucking one of them in doggy. After about two hours of this, I was exhausted and got ready to sleep. The girls played around a bit longer and then also fell asleep.

Saturday morning. Breakfast at the hotel lobby and then onward to the Mercado Municipal for some fruits that I crave but can't find in the USA and some pastel. One of the girls found a waitress she liked and got her info to try to invite her out with us at night. Went back to hotel for another couple of hours of playtime and then off to dinner and many caipirinhas at Fogo Do Chao.

While at dinner, we contacted the waitress to join us later in the night but she had to work early the next day and couldn't come out. Oh well. We tried. Drinks flowed freely and eventually we decided to head out for the night.

One of the girls took us to a boate near the restaurant and we tried our luck there but alas. Nothing could be found. Dead boate.

Went to another place down the block and this place was better but it was early so we decided to hang out and see what talent comes in. Good thing that we did. One girl came in and she was the best one in the bar. I immediately pointed her out and both girls rushed to her and called her over. After about an hour of talking, she decided to join us for the night.

Went back to the hotel around midnight and then I got to see the new girls face and body in the actual light and I was stunned. She was drop dead gorgeous with a 10 body. A spinner with nice perky tits, an ass that I would cry over and a slim tummy that showed the obliques. I have a picture but can't upload. Sorry. Just beautiful. And we hit it off.

After a few more drinks in the room, the other girls decided that they wanted to play with the new one and we all went to the bedroom. Watching three naked women was quite a sight to behold. Licking, fingering, kissing and moaning. Eventually, I couldn't stand it any longer and joined in. I wanted the taste of the new one in my mouth, so I had sit on my face while the other two sucked my dock together. Then the two took turns fucking me (changing condoms each time I blew my load. I don't know with which one I was able to blow my load since I was so engrossed in the new ones pussy.

This went on till 4 am and we finally decided to go to sleep. I was exhausted.

Woke up around 8 am Sunday to hard dock and had the new girls next to me so I grabbed her hand and put it on my dick. She started stroking it and I was rubbing her pussy. As she got more and more wet, she crawled out of bed and grabbed a condom and then rode me till I came. It was an excellent way to wake up.

Eventually she had to leave and the other two spent the rest of the day curing their hangovers.

I was done. Literally had nothing in me to give anymore. They left the room around 2 pm to go home and I left the hotel around 830 to catch my flight back home.

The new girl and I hit it off really well so I have her personal phone contact and we are talking thru WhatsApp and we have agreed to get together next time I come to São Paulo. She also agreed to get tested when we get together at a one hour testing facility so we can continue the weekend together BB.

Some issues about this weekend — managing two girls for a weekend wasn't hard since the girls agreed to this and both of them were fault easy going and enjoyed the things I enjoy. No jealousy involved. It was a fun time but I probably wouldn't do it again due to cost. The biggest issue that irked me was the changing of condoms back and forth but I understand the health reason behind it.

Looking forward to my next trip down.

SnoopySpain
12-10-20, 17:41
Weekend in So Paulo was well spent and now back home without catching COVID (shucks).

I had organized two redhead girls from different sites that were both bisexual and we were chatting together on WhatsApp for a week before meeting. I had written a post about this earlier with links to their pages.

Both girls met me for dinner on Friday evening at Jun Sakamoto and we enjoyed an amazing omakase meal. Girls drank 1. 5 bottles of wine and we took the remainder of the bottle back to the hotel. Staying at the Renaissance and I had booked a room with three guests and was able to get upgraded to a larger suite due to my status.

Once we went into the room and the girls got situated, it got exciting with each of us exploring the other and ultimately both girls enjoying each other while I was fucking one of them in doggy. After about two hours of this, I was exhausted and got ready to sleep. The girls played around a bit longer and then also fell asleep.

Saturday morning. Breakfast at the hotel lobby and then onward to the Mercado Municipal for some fruits that I crave but can't find in the USA and some pastel. One of the girls found a waitress she liked and got her info to try to invite her out with us at night. Went back to hotel for another couple of hours of playtime and then off to dinner and many caipirinhas at Fogo Do Chao.

While at dinner, we contacted the waitress to join us later in the night but she had to work early the next day and couldn't come out. Oh well. We tried. Drinks flowed freely and eventually we decided to head out for the night..Wow fantastic experience.

And out of curiosity how much did it cost you to be with them?

XXL
12-10-20, 17:42
Ueber has started rejecting my credit card all of a sudden. It seems to be still working with Uebereats though. It also works 1 time out of 5 after I reenter it into the system. The alternative to Ueber in Brazil is Taxi 99 but it didn't work after I downloaded it. I see on the Google Play comments that it doesn't work with Android.

So if you come to Brazil bring a bevvy of credit cards to be sure to be able to use Ueber.

SoberHans69
12-10-20, 21:38
Just booked my flights and hotel for my first trip to Brazil.

Going to be arriving on 31st of January and leaving on 13th February, staying at Mercure Sao Paulo Moema Hotel.

Thanks to everyone who posts in this forum, I can't wait to repay the favour with some reports.

Hopefully I can meet up with some of you when I'm there.

Does anyone know of any gyms in Moema where you can join for a few weeks or pay as you go? Needs to have decently heavy free weights.

XXL
12-10-20, 23:10
Just booked my flights and hotel for my first trip to Brazil.


Does anyone know of any gyms in Moema where you can join for a few weeks or pay as you go? Needs to have decently heavy free weights.I can recommend Tecfit Jardins for EMS training. I paid just over 400 R for 4 sessions (1 session a week).

PussyRiot
12-11-20, 00:40
One of the girls took us to a boate near the restaurant and we tried our luck there but alas. Nothing could be found. Dead boate.
Went to another place down the block and this place was better but it was early so we decided to hang out and see what talent comes in. Please share the name of the boate.

AndySana
12-11-20, 00:47
Weekend in So Paulo was well spent and now back home without catching COVID (shucks).

I had organized two redhead girls from different sites that were both bisexual and we were chatting together on WhatsApp for a week before meeting. I had written a post about this earlier with links to their pages.

Both girls met me for dinner on Friday evening at Jun Sakamoto and we enjoyed an amazing omakase meal. Girls drank 1. 5 bottles of wine and we took the remainder of the bottle back to the hotel. Staying at the Renaissance and I had booked a room with three guests and was able to get upgraded to a larger suite due to my status.

Once we went into the room and the girls got situated, it got exciting with each of us exploring the other and ultimately both girls enjoying each other while I was fucking one of them in doggy. After about two hours of this, I was exhausted and got ready to sleep. The girls played around a bit longer and then also fell asleep.

Saturday morning. Breakfast at the hotel lobby and then onward to the Mercado Municipal for some fruits that I crave but can't find in the USA and some pastel. One of the girls found a waitress she liked and got her info to try to invite her out with us at night. Went back to hotel for another couple of hours of playtime and then off to dinner and many caipirinhas at Fogo Do Chao.

While at dinner, we contacted the waitress to join us later in the night but she had to work early the next day and couldn't come out. Oh well. We tried. Drinks flowed freely and eventually we decided to head out for the night.

One of the girls took us to a boate near the restaurant and we tried our luck there but alas. Nothing could be found. Dead boate..Thank you for this report; It made me jealous to be honest!

Nuupter
12-11-20, 01:11
I went to Love Story late, late, late one night on my first visit to Sao Paulo. Got drunk off my ass! Only the second time in all my trips to Brazil. It was only so-so, although I did leave with somebody. A lot of the girls who work in other clubs throughout the city would show up at Love Story late. I never felt compelled to go back. But glad I did it once. I can check it off my bucket list.Ha, ok, I might go check it out when I'm in SP again. There are so many that I have not heard of, there is another called club impressau or something like that, all advertising on instagram.

Houston Player
12-11-20, 04:35
Ueber has started rejecting my credit card all of a sudden. It seems to be still working with Uebereats though. It also works 1 time out of 5 after I reenter it into the system. The alternative to Ueber in Brazil is Taxi 99 but it didn't work after I downloaded it. I see on the Google Play comments that it doesn't work with Android.

So if you come to Brazil bring a bevvy of credit cards to be sure to be able to use Ueber.In Brazil Uber has a cash option so you don't have to use a credit card. I always use my credit card but the option to use cash is available.

Polyamorist
12-11-20, 05:19
Ueber has started rejecting my credit card all of a sudden. It seems to be still working with Uebereats though. It also works 1 time out of 5 after I reenter it into the system. The alternative to Ueber in Brazil is Taxi 99 but it didn't work after I downloaded it. I see on the Google Play comments that it doesn't work with Android.

So if you come to Brazil bring a bevvy of credit cards to be sure to be able to use Ueber.If you used your card somewhere other than Uber, it might have been skimmed. In fact I think the same thing happened to me. Uber suddenly rejected one of my cards this morning, and I had to switch to a backup card. I don't know if the first one will ever work again.

But this shit always happens in Brazil. In terms of how far international banks trust Brazil, it is in the bottom league along with North Korea and Somalia. And why? Because the sad truth is that Brazilian guys are always up to some unlikely scam: it doesn't have to work, it just has to be creative! Or uncreative, just as long as it's as a scam!

Traditionally we would avoid using electronic money at all in Brazil. This still leaves you with the problem of exchanging cash. The currency shops are playing harder this year. It's as if they don't like the fact that the Real has dropped so much in value, and they are trying to persuade themselves that it will come back.

I expect all this currency devaluation and pandeconomic hardship will just make Brazilians all the more willing to try new scams. Anybody seeing a rise in xenophobia? Hard times make people grumpy.

The Cane
12-11-20, 05:45
If you used your card somewhere other than Uber, it might have been skimmed. In fact I think the same thing happened to me. Uber suddenly rejected one of my cards this morning, and I had to switch to a backup card. I don't know if the first one will ever work again.

But this shit always happens in Brazil. In terms of how far international banks trust Brazil, it is in the bottom league along with North Korea and Somalia. And why? Because the sad truth is that Brazilian guys are always up to some unlikely scam: it doesn't have to work, it just has to be creative! Or uncreative, just as long as it's as a scam!

Traditionally we would avoid using electronic money at all in Brazil. This still leaves you with the problem of exchanging cash. The currency shops are playing harder this year. It's as if they don't like the fact that the Real has dropped so much in value, and they are trying to persuade themselves that it will come back.

I expect all this currency devaluation and pandeconomic hardship will just make Brazilians all the more willing to try new scams. Anybody seeing a rise in xenophobia? Hard times make people grumpy.The only time I have ever used a credit card ever in Brazil has been to settle up my hotel bill (never had a problem). Other than that, it's been cash all the way baby! During my last trip, instead of bringing a bunch of cash with me, I just used ATMs that I considered to be safe (nothing on the street). I routinely checked my account for any funny business, and again no problems. Before I departed the USA, I alerted the bank that I would be traveling to Brazil (also key to not experiencing any issues).

SoberHans69
12-11-20, 10:55
I can recommend Tecfit Jardins for EMS training. I paid just over 400 R for 4 sessions (1 session a week).Thanks XXL, appreciate it.

The Critic
12-11-20, 11:48
Ueber has started rejecting my credit card all of a sudden. It seems to be still working with Uebereats though. It also works 1 time out of 5 after I reenter it into the system. The alternative to Ueber in Brazil is Taxi 99 but it didn't work after I downloaded it. I see on the Google Play comments that it doesn't work with Android.

So if you come to Brazil bring a bevvy of credit cards to be sure to be able to use Ueber.I don't know if this helps but contact your credit card company to let them know your in Brazil (authorized international transactions) and to make sure they didn't suspend your account due to a fraud alert (you card may have been skimmed). Also Uber required me to have two step authorization activated. I never had a issue with my card with Uber.

You can also use Uber cards if you don't want to use cash up front.
https://www.uber.com/br/en/gift-cards/
https://www.uber.com/br/en/business/features/gift-cards/

XXL
12-11-20, 12:20
In Brazil Uber has a cash option so you don't have to use a credit card. I always use my credit card but the option to use cash is available.Yes luckily you can pay cash. However, the purpose of using a credit card is to avoid the hassle (and vicious circle) of carrying enough small change. How do you generate small change? By paying cash elsewhere, so you end using cash a lot more than you would.

Incidentally, Ueber in Brazil has a very bizarre feature in case drivers have no change. I tended a 50-R banknote to pay for a 10-R ride but the driver told me he had no change and I had better pay on the next ride! A very interesting clearing feature. As it happened though, when I called the next ride Ueber asked me "you still owe this amount, do you want to settle now?" I said yes and lo and behold, my credit card was accepted. In other words my credit card got through on the delayed payment. Right after that it was rejected again on the upfront payment for the next ride.


I don't know if this helps but contact your credit card company to let them know your in Brazil (authorized international transactions) and to make sure they didn't suspend your account due to a fraud alert (you card may have been skimmed). Also Uber required me to have two step authorization activated. I never had a issue with my card with Uber.
I've been using this card in Brazil for two and a half months now. Uber has also prompted me to install two-step authorization but without making it a requirement. What it often did until a couple of weeks ago was to send a verification SMS before the ride could begin. It did so quite often, at least every third ride. Now it has stopped doing so for whatever reason, maybe that's not a good sign. I'll be in Peru a week from now so I'm going to pay cash until then. Once in Peru I'll delete my account and start from scratch with my Peru number and another credit card. Even creating a new Uber account is tricky because from what I have read if you use the same phone number OR the same e-mail OR the same credit card Uber may block you. I understand the fraud issues but couldn't they have a real online customer service, at least for power users like me? They're still not profitable after all those years, no wonder if they estrange their best customers through kafkaesque practices.

I'm not too keen on the Uber gift card idea. What if I buy a gift card an Uber rejects it like it did my credit card?

Anaggie
12-11-20, 15:38
Wow fantastic experience.

And out of curiosity how much did it cost you to be with them?Approx $2200 USD.

A perfect storm of money saved from the quarantine, travel outside the USA, a way to blow off built up pressure and a once in a lifetime experience. Would I do it again — more than likely not.

Anaggie
12-11-20, 15:44
Please share the name of the boate.Sorry. I don't remember the name. Wasn't paying attention since I was too busy checking everything out. I was able to track down my last address for the Uber that evening though so I hope that helps.

https://goo.gl/maps/RsN7kbqaTeqF4ki76 are. Augusta, 792 - Cerqueira César, São Paulo. SP, 01304-001, Brazil.

Nuupter
12-11-20, 23:29
Approx $2200 USD.

A perfect storm of money saved from the quarantine, travel outside the USA, a way to blow off built up pressure and a once in a lifetime experience. Would I do it again more than likely not.Damn, that is expensive. I assumed they stayed with you for 3 days?

DiverOyster
12-12-20, 01:37
I was in SP during the Thanksgiving week. I visited Scandallo and / or Connection every night. The 1-hour rate for a hot chic (8-9) with gfe services at these 2 clubs is 500 max. I did 1 chic at Scandallo for 300/ HR and 1 chic at Connection for 450/ HR at the clubs but their services were just so-so, not up to my gfe standard. I also did one chic from clubmodel at 500/hour but her service was not up to my gfe standard. If any chic wants more than 500, just bargain her down to 500 and if she doesn't budge, just walk away. There is absolutely no need to pay more than 500 per hour for 8-9 chics with gfe in SP. When I am in SP, I only do chics who are 8-9. They cost 1/10 of the rate in my hometown USA (1,000USD per hour for a 8-9 chic).

The most cost effective approach at the clubs is to take WhatsApps of the hot chics and arrange for them to come to your place the next day. If they come to your place, the rate is still 500/hr. Some will want you to send Uber to pick them up and take them home after the session. Uber rate is so minimal in SP so who cares.

However, negotiation for a longer stay is more tricky. During my Thanksgiving trip, one Connection chic who spent several hours making out / dancing with me at the club with no charge came to my place after the club and stayed from around 5 am to around 9 am and was happy with 1,000. She could have stayed until noon for 1,300 but I was too sleepy so I sent her away.

Now I am preparing for my next SP trip from Christmas to the New Year weekend. I want to try a longer-stay arrangement to find out whether I will like it better than the hourly arrangement.

I inquired a few chics for their all-day (24-hour) rates. A hot Scandallo chic quoted me 2,000. A PA chic quoted 2,400. One clubmodel chic asked for 3,000. One SPLove chic asked for 3,000.

I am thinking maybe it's best to keep a chic for fun during the afternoon and go to dinner with her and then back to my place for more fun. Early AM, she can go back to her place to sleep and I will sleep alone. I will be too tired to do anything with her after certain hours anyway so there's no point to keep her overnight. I tend to sleep better alone anyway. So hypothetically, I will negotiate a 12-hour session. She comes to my place in the afternoon and stay 12 hours with me and I pay her 1,500. I think 1,500 is a good deal for a 12-hour stay.

I would love to receive thoughts from others who are more experienced with longer-term arrangement in SP.

Cheers. SP is a paradise on earth for young and beautiful pussies with GFE charm.

When I have time, I will do a comparison between SP and European FKKs in a separate post.

DiverOyster
12-12-20, 01:44
Approx $2200 USD.

A perfect storm of money saved from the quarantine, travel outside the USA, a way to blow off built up pressure and a once in a lifetime experience. Would I do it again more than likely not.2,200 USD extremely well spent my friend. To put things into perspectives, when you are back in the US, a hot chic will quote you 1,000 USD for one hour and even at that exorbitant rate, her service / attitude still may not be GFE. In SP, I can get a chic equally hot with GFE service / attitude for 1/10 of the price, at $100 USD (500 reals) per hour. SP is a paradise for me.

The Cane
12-12-20, 02:55
I was in SP during the Thanksgiving week. I visited Scandallo and / or Connection every night. The 1-hour rate for a hot chic (8-9) with gfe services at these 2 clubs is 500 max. I did 1 chic at Scandallo for 300/ HR and 1 chic at Connection for 450/ HR at the clubs but their services were just so-so, not up to my gfe standard. I also did one chic from clubmodel at 500/hour but her service was not up to my gfe standard. If any chic wants more than 500, just bargain her down to 500 and if she doesn't budge, just walk away. There is absolutely no need to pay more than 500 per hour for 8-9 chics with gfe in SP. When I am in SP, I only do chics who are 8-9. They cost 1/10 of the rate in my hometown USA (1,000USD per hour for a 8-9 chic).Given the current exchange rate, if you're trying to pull a top Scandallo girl for 500 reals, that's like $100. To be frank, you're low balling. No wonder what you're getting is so-so service as they're probably annoyed at you and look upon you as being kind of cheap. Just being honest. Now it's your money, but for an hourly toss, you should try sweetening the deal some. Paying more is no guarantee of better service, but constantly low balling sure isn't a winner either. You have to find the sweet spot for the joint you're working. Besides, your own advice doesn't even make any sense. You say no need to ever pay more than 500 reals for GFE in Sao Paulo, but then you yourself reported that you aren't getting GFE for what you're paying! So, which is it? Maybe you think that's how it "ought" to be. But your experience doesn't appear to bear that out according to your own words. I think you would be better off sticking with the clinicas for what you want to pay. But then, in my opinion, the clinica girls don't look as good. But, I did find their service to be good at much lower prices. And yeah, maybe you might do better with the Scandallo types by trying to arrange for something longer at an overall higher payout to them. But, as you have already seen, given the current exchange rate 500 reals for an hour isn't going to get you great service from a Scandallo hottie. I mean, look at it this way. When the exchange rate was 3 to 1, 500 reals was what the lower end of the Scandallo girls were accepting! You're going to need to up your game man, or search elsewhere, like at the clinicas. I'm just telling you how it is. You need to be ready to pay more in order to get a Scandallo hottie to bang your lights out (at Connection you can and should pay less than at Scandallo)!

Nuupter
12-12-20, 04:41
I was in SP during the Thanksgiving week. I visited Scandallo and / or Connection every night. The 1-hour rate for a hot chic (8-9) with gfe services at these 2 clubs is 500 max. I did 1 chic at Scandallo for 300/ HR and 1 chic at Connection for 450/ HR at the clubs but their services were just so-so, not up to my gfe standard. I also did one chic from clubmodel at 500/hour but her service was not up to my gfe standard. If any chic wants more than 500, just bargain her down to 500 and if she doesn't budge, just walk away. There is absolutely no need to pay more than 500 per hour for 8-9 chics with gfe in SP. When I am in SP, I only do chics who are 8-9. They cost 1/10 of the rate in my hometown USA (1,000USD per hour for a 8-9 chic).

The most cost effective approach at the clubs is to take WhatsApps of the hot chics and arrange for them to come to your place the next day. If they come to your place, the rate is still 500/hr. Some will want you to send Uber to pick them up and take them home after the session. Uber rate is so minimal in SP so who cares.

However, negotiation for a longer stay is more tricky. During my Thanksgiving trip, one Connection chic who spent several hours making out / dancing with me at the club with no charge came to my place after the club and stayed from around 5 am to around 9 am and was happy with 1,000. She could have stayed until noon for 1,300 but I was too sleepy so I sent her away.

Now I am preparing for my next SP trip from Christmas to the New Year weekend. I want to try a longer-stay arrangement to find out whether I will like it better than the hourly arrangement..I am very interested to hear what is your experience there during Christmas and New Years. Was planning to go there then, but got to wait till Jan. For the prices of the longer term 24 hours, the prices you mentioned are what I was quoted also. When I was there back in August, a Connection girl wanted 1200 and said she will stay for however long I want her to be. Careful though, make sure she keeps her word. And then there is this girl from clubmodel who I met a few times last years for long stays. Wanted 1500 for it, but back in August asked for 3000 for it. I laughed and never contacted her again. So 1200-2500 is reasonable. If she is very pretty and we have chemistry after our initial meet I would agree to 3000 also. I think for those that are more good looking will not budge from under 1200, but of course you can try to low end them, and they will counter you with what they want. But do meet them first for 1 hour or so so they get to know you and they will be more acceptable to lesser price if they find they like you and have chemistry.

DiverOyster
12-12-20, 06:18
Given the current exchange rate, if you're trying to pull a top Scandallo girl for 500 reals, that's like $100. To be frank, you're low balling. No wonder what you're getting is so-so service as they're probably annoyed at you and look upon you as being kind of cheap. Just being honest. Now it's your money, but for an hourly toss, you should try sweetening the deal some. Paying more is no guarantee of better service, but constantly low balling sure isn't a winner either. You have to find the sweet spot for the joint you're working. Besides, your own advice doesn't even make any sense. You say no need to ever pay more than 500 reals for GFE in Sao Paulo, but then you yourself reported that you aren't getting GFE for what you're paying! So, which is it? Maybe you think that's how it "ought" to be. But your experience doesn't appear to bear that out according to your own words. I think you would be better off sticking with the clinicas for what you want to pay. But then, in my opinion, the clinica girls don't look as good. But, I did find their service to be good at much lower prices. And yeah, maybe you might do better with the Scandallo types by trying to arrange for something longer at an overall higher payout to them. But, as you have already seen, given the current exchange rate 500 reals for an hour isn't going to get you great service from a Scandallo hottie. I mean, look at it this way. When the exchange rate was 3 to 1, 500 reals was what the lower end of the Scandallo girls were accepting! You're going to need to up your game man, or search elsewhere, like at the clinicas. I'm just telling you how it is. You need to be ready to pay more in order to get a Scandallo hottie to bang your lights out (at Connection you can and should pay less than at Scandallo)!Let me clarify my previous post. When I went back to reread my previous post, I realized that my writing could cause some misunderstanding but it was then too late to edit (ISG only allows editing within 1 hour of posting).

At 500/ hour rate, I was getting lots of 8-9 chics with wonderful GFE service (FKK Globe level / standard of GFE) at Scandallo and Connection. The chic who did 300/ HR at Scandallo and the chic who did 450/ HR at Connection offered such rates to start. I didn't bother to bargain below 500. To me, 500/ HR for an 8-9 with GFE is an unbelievable deal already. Remember, before visiting SP, my standard bearer for GFE pricing is 280 CHF / hour at FKK Globe (3 times the current price at Scandallo / Connection).

After several days at Scandallo and Connection, my conclusion is 500/ HR is the current market price for an 8-9 with GFE service. No bargaining was necessary. Lots of 8-9s offered 500/hr to start and I gladly accepted. Any chics who offer below 500/ HR may be a risk for not delivering GFE (FKK Globe level's GFE). At the current market, any chics who demand above 500/hr are pricing themselves out of the market. These chics spoke some English and thought they could charge a gringo like me above market price.

I like visiting Scandallo and Connection better than the websites. On my whole trip, I only tried one on-line chic (from ClubModel) at 500/ HR and her service was not up to my GFE standard. After that, I didn't even bother going back to online. At the clubs, I could chat and feel the vibes for GFE and usually, I gauged correctly. The chics who behaved GFE outside the room would likely be GFE inside the room. With the online chics, I couldn't gauge the GFE vibes via texting as accurately as in-person and face-to-face flirting.

On my next trip, I will try Bomboa. I didn't know that Bomboa was already open during my last trip.

Currently, SP is a paradise for me. At FKK Globe back in 2019 and before, I was spending at least 1,200 CHF a day (four 1-hour sessions per day). Now at Scandallo, I am having the same fun for much less and in a much more luxurious club with much better food selection, and no second-hand smoking. The real beauty of SP, I believe, is in longer-term arrangements at my luxury apartment and fine dining with the chics at the most luxurious restaurants in SP. I will try some all-day arrangements on my next trip to SP.

The Cane
12-12-20, 12:10
Let me clarify my previous post. When I went back to reread my previous post, I realized that my writing could cause some misunderstanding but it was then too late to edit (ISG only allows editing within 1 hour of posting).

At 500/ hour rate, I was getting lots of 8-9 chics with wonderful GFE service (FKK Globe level / standard of GFE) at Scandallo and Connection. The chic who did 300/ HR at Scandallo and the chic who did 450/ HR at Connection offered such rates to start. I didn't bother to bargain below 500. To me, 500/ HR for an 8-9 with GFE is an unbelievable deal already. Remember, before visiting SP, my standard bearer for GFE pricing is 280 CHF / hour at FKK Globe (3 times the current price at Scandallo / Connection).

After several days at Scandallo and Connection, my conclusion is 500/ HR is the current market price for an 8-9 with GFE service. No bargaining was necessary. Lots of 8-9s offered 500/hr to start and I gladly accepted. Any chics who offer below 500/ HR may be a risk for not delivering GFE (FKK Globe level's GFE). At the current market, any chics who demand above 500/hr are pricing themselves out of the market. These chics spoke some English and thought they could charge a gringo like me above market price.

I like visiting Scandallo and Connection better than the websites. On my whole trip, I only tried one on-line chic (from ClubModel) at 500/ HR and her service was not up to my GFE standard. After that, I didn't even bother going back to online. At the clubs, I could chat and feel the vibes for GFE and usually, I gauged correctly. The chics who behaved GFE outside the room would likely be GFE inside the room. With the online chics, I couldn't gauge the GFE vibes via texting as accurately as in-person and face-to-face flirting..That re-write gives quite a different impression. Like the complete opposite. It has been well over a year since I have been to Sao Paulo. At that time, I believe that the exchange rate was like 4 to 1, if I recall correctly. No way was a top Scandallo girl going to accept 500 reals for an hour. But, that was pre-pandemic times too. I'm sure all the girls are a lot more "thirsty" to earn at this time. For me, compared to Switzerland, Brazil was already an unbelievable deal pre-pandemic. I've always believed the cost of a piece of ass (and everything else) was way too much in Switzerland. Especially when I could just go to Germany and fuck the same quality of girls for half the price. Yes, I am one of the ones who doesn't believe that the girls working the top clubs in Switzerland look better than the ones in Germany or provide better service. But no need to have that debate here in this thread. Look, I'm glad you're having a great time in Brazil at pandemic pricing! Clinicas got to be dirt cheap! Wish I was there. I could go, but I've decided to wait at least until the vaccines are widely rolled out around the world.

Anaggie
12-12-20, 15:32
Damn, that is expensive. I assumed they stayed with you for 3 days?Yes. From Friday evening till Sunday late afternoon.

I like the getting to know each other part. Not a wham bam thank you ma'am kinda of dude. So, to keep trying different girls really doesn't do it for me.

Plus like "DiverOyster" said. A hot chick in the USA would charge me $1000 for a hour. I live in a city where the quality isn't great and I can say that I actually got way more than my money's worth. Escorts in my town charge $200-500 per hour and they are fat fucking starfish with no GFE skills whatsoever.

Nuupter
12-12-20, 19:28
Yes. From Friday evening till Sunday late afternoon.

I like the getting to know each other part. Not a wham bam thank you ma'am kinda of dude. So, to keep trying different girls really doesn't do it for me.

Plus like "DiverOyster" said. A hot chick in the USA would charge me $1000 for a hour. I live in a city where the quality isn't great and I can say that I actually got way more than my money's worth. Escorts in my town charge $200-500 per hour and they are fat fucking starfish with no GFE skills whatsoever.That is reasonable then for 3 days and $2200. I thought it was only for 1 day. Good deal.

D Cups
12-12-20, 19:41
Hi guys just wondering if any boots on the ground can report any busty Asian-Latinas given the high percentage of Asians in SP. Looking for the best of both worlds. Thanks for any replies.

Nuupter
12-13-20, 20:17
So I have been scouring all the websites, private55, clubmodel, splove for SP so I can find out who I would like to meet in January. But I did not find any of the girls attractive or attractive enough or stunning for me to want to meet her. Is it me and what I have become that my standard is soo high right now and have no way of lowering it? Or the quality is lower because of covid? Also, I see the same faces everytime in those website. Hopefully when I go to the clubs I can find plenty of my tastes LOL. Rio is even worse as I looked at barravip etc also. Well damn.

Hope SP don't go into another lockdown or worse restrictions than now.

Polyamorist
12-14-20, 02:04
But, as you have already seen, given the current exchange rate 500 reals for an hour isn't going to get you great service from a Scandallo hottie.It gets me great service. Not always, but if the chemistry isn't right, throwing money at the problem isn't going to help.

"I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things that money can buy. " -- Steve Martin.

The Cane
12-14-20, 02:13
It gets me great service. Not always, but if the chemistry isn't right, throwing money at the problem isn't going to help.

"I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things that money can buy. " -- Steve Martin.With a 9 or 10? You left that part out LOL!

Incrociatore
12-14-20, 02:13
That re-write gives quite a different impression. Like the complete opposite. It has been well over a year since I have been to Sao Paulo. At that time, I believe that the exchange rate was like 4 to 1, if I recall correctly. No way was a top Scandallo girl going to accept 500 reals for an hour. But, that was pre-pandemic times too. I'm sure all the girls are a lot more "thirsty" to earn at this time. For me, compared to Switzerland, Brazil was already an unbelievable deal pre-pandemic. I've always believed the cost of a piece of ass (and everything else) was way too much in Switzerland. Especially when I could just go to Germany and fuck the same quality of girls for half the price. Yes, I am one of the ones who doesn't believe that the girls working the top clubs in Switzerland look better than the ones in Germany or provide better service. But no need to have that debate here in this thread. Look, I'm glad you're having a great time in Brazil at pandemic pricing! Clinicas got to be dirt cheap! Wish I was there. I could go, but I've decided to wait at least until the vaccines are widely rolled out around the world.Girls can ask the price they want. I know some people pay 700 for a girl doesn't worth even 200. A nice girl came to my place for 250 + Uber for an hour. She has 17.000 followers on Instagram and a lot of pictures and videos. Good fuck, great for the price. An agency sent one for 400 that I sent back because she wasn't the girl of the pictures. Another one didn't want to kiss and blow me without, which was agreed in the messages. I didn't know I was speaking with the agency. She went home, and she paid for her Uber. She was mad with the agency. When there is an agency in the middle, prices aren't good and performance are even worse. Some girl asked me 700 for an hour, one asked me 1000. There is no girl on the earth with that value in Brasil, not a single one. I do not pay 1000 for an hour, no one should. I found a girl, 21, all natural with just some lips injection, which I love, who does one of the best blow / hand job I ever had. And she is like my girlfriend when she is with me. She even speaks English. What can a 1000 girl give me more? Most likely nothing. Scandallo girls are the same prepagos you pay 200 or 300 per hour. They do ask twice the price at Scandallo. One was in my room yesterday and we have spoken about the place. She told me: when I'm there I do ask a lot of money, because people there have a lot of money. Of course, if you are willing to spend 350 just to be in the place, then you should spend 900 to pay a girl. I don't do that. I can, but I don't do that, because there is no woman worth that amount in Sao Paulo. Best website is Fatalmodel, because you can see a video and have a real idea how the girl looks. I stopped to use all the others. That's the only one reliable.

Incrociatore
12-14-20, 02:23
It gets me great service. Not always, but if the chemistry isn't right, throwing money at the problem isn't going to help.

"I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things that money can buy. " -- Steve Martin.True. It is not the amount of money. You can pay a girl 3000 but if the chemistry isn't there, the sex will be mediocre. That's why I do not pay more than 500. I can, but I do not. When I was in Medellin my best fuck was with a girl that came to my place without an agreement. We had sex, the best I had in two weeks, then after, after two hours and two shots, I gave her what I wanted. She didn't even count the money. And she paid for her Uber. We met on Badoo, she liked me, I liked her, we fucked and she got a gift. It's always better go for an hour, it's a test drive. You can buy her time, but you can't pretend she is attracted if she is not, not even will all the money in the world. If she doesn't like you and there is no chemistry, even if you paid 5000, the sex will be bad.

Polyamorist
12-14-20, 02:26
Hi guys just wondering if any boots on the ground can report any busty Asian-Latinas given the high percentage of Asians in SP. Looking for the best of both worlds. Thanks for any replies.Similarly I was wondering if any boobs on the ground could report any flashy Asians with red-hot boots. Looking for the best of both boots and boobs.

The Cane
12-14-20, 02:32
Girls can ask the price they want. I know some people pay 700 for a girl doesn't worth even 200. A nice girl came to my place for 250 + Uber for an hour. She has 17.000 followers on Instagram and a lot of pictures and videos. Good fuck, great for the price. An agency sent one for 400 that I sent back because she wasn't the girl of the pictures. Another one didn't want to kiss and blow me without, which was agreed in the messages. I didn't know I was speaking with the agency. She went home, and she paid for her Uber. She was mad with the agency. When there is an agency in the middle, prices aren't good and performance are even worse. Some girl asked me 700 for an hour, one asked me 1000. There is no girl on the earth with that value in Brasil, not a single one. I do not pay 1000 for an hour, no one should. I found a girl, 21, all natural with just some lips injection, which I love, who does one of the best blow / hand job I ever had. And she is like my girlfriend when she is with me. She even speaks English. What can a 1000 girl give me more? Most likely nothing. Scandallo girls are the same prepagos you pay 200 or 300 per hour. They do ask twice the price at Scandallo. One was in my room yesterday and we have spoken about the place. She told me: when I'm there I do ask a lot of money, because people there have a lot of money. Of course, if you are willing to spend 350 just to be in the place, then you should spend 900 to pay a girl. I don't do that. I can, but I don't do that, because there is no woman worth that amount in Sao Paulo. Best website is Fatalmodel, because you can see a video and have a real idea how the girl looks. I stopped to use all the others. That's the only one reliable.OK, but you're not comparing apples to apples and oranges to oranges. You're all over the place. The specific focus, at least mine, was on Scandallo. I do believe, just like with other services, things like who, what, when and where impacts "how much". I don't accept that "one budget fits all" when it comes to pussy, just like with other types of personal services. But hey, you do you. Knock yourself out!

Jojab007
12-14-20, 06:13
First day in SP:

Tried to go to Spicy Bar aka Hot bar but it closes at 10 pm. The bouncer gave me name of another bar named Gauguin that stays open till 5 am.

The club started warming up after 11. Apparently it has different activities on different days. I happened to be there on best day. It was a swing party, disco, brothel, hooker pickup all packed in one. Also seemed like a place where relatively aged males bring their young girlfriends to satisfy their bisexuality. After a while, you will see all over place girls rubbing and kissing each other, while their BF stands on the sideline. Some couples were having sex in the middle of crowd, some upstairs with open drapes for all to see.

I picked up a college student in mid twenties, she said she needed money for college. She wasn't lying I checked. She quoted 700 R. I was told by a local that 400 is THE price. After some bargaining and back and forth she agreed. 400 R for her and 100 R room rent upstairs for 1 hour. We fooled around kissing, dancing, rubbing, drinking before going into room. Unlike other cities, where a girl tries to score as many guys possible to make most money. She just hung out with me all night, till 3 am. That's like taking GFE experience to whole new level. I am not sure if it got lucky or it's the norm. I will find out soon. She was also attracted to other girls, and must have french kissed 10 other girls randomly during the night. At one point, there were 2 girls french kissing, both in early 20's. She asked if she could join, then all 3 were kissing each other. Its a rare sight in my experience. Kissing and rubbing in some cases got so intense that their skirts pulled up all the way to waist and they didn't seem to care.

The entrance was 120 and after drinks and room for my girlfriend-of-the-night, the total bill came out 450 ($83 usd).

DiverOyster
12-14-20, 07:41
Not her specifically but the last two girls I had over for 200 were both very attractive.

https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/ninfeta-namoradinha-com-local-discreto-id-fav5b

This was actually the last girl I had over. 350, a little pricey, but money well spent. 5'4, 50kg, really bubbly personality and great BBBJ and DFK. 19 years old from Brazilia. Was actually glowing for a couple hours after the experience haha, and we didn't even have intercourse. But her head game was on point.

https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/gata-sarada-especialista-em-te-dar-prazer-venha-conhecer-id-aujws

This one only wanted 150, although I gave her 200 cause I'm a nice guy.I have never tried PA. I contacted 2 gorgeous girls on PA. Their prices are so low at 200/ HR. I may go to their respective apt to check it out. I will just walk away if they don't look like their pictures on PA.

XXL
12-14-20, 16:59
Last Saturday I missed Pamela by a couple of minutes. Pamela was girl I wouldn't hesitate to go with for 600 if I saw her at Scandallo. She got scooped up before my eyes by a customer who was already seated when I entered. Another, less spectacular new girl I saw for the first time Saturday was Lorena.

So today I went to Abbobora with a view to session Pamela, or, failing her, Lorena. No luck. I was told those 2 girls were freelances, whatever that meant, and only came on Saturdays.

So there you are, in this clinic Saturday is the best day of the week if you want to see something different from the standard line-up.

Nuupter
12-14-20, 18:05
First day in SP:

Tried to go to Spicy Bar aka Hot bar but it closes at 10 pm. The bouncer gave me name of another bar named Gauguin that stays open till 5 am.

The club started warming up after 11. Apparently it has different activities on different days. I happened to be there on best day. It was a swing party, disco, brothel, hooker pickup all packed in one. Also seemed like a place where relatively aged males bring their young girlfriends to satisfy their bisexuality. After a while, you will see all over place girls rubbing and kissing each other, while their BF stands on the sideline. Some couples were having sex in the middle of crowd, some upstairs with open drapes for all to see.

I picked up a college student in mid twenties, she said she needed money for college. She wasn't lying I checked. She quoted 700 R. I was told by a local that 400 is THE price. After some bargaining and back and forth she agreed. 400 R for her and 100 R room rent upstairs for 1 hour. We fooled around kissing, dancing, rubbing, drinking before going into room. Unlike other cities, where a girl tries to score as many guys possible to make most money..Could you tell us what day is that? What a sight to see, would have brought them all to Asturias for a reverse gb LOL? And yes compared to FKK and Brazil, the girls will hang out with you and not rush you. That is why I like Brazil better than FKK, and not keep telling you to go to room, or rush off if they know you are wasting their time. If you ever meet someone who keeps rushing or pushing you in Brazil, know that is a red flag for bad experience, but I have not experienced it yet.

Will you be going to other clubs that was never or not much spoken here? Such as Imperium club Moema, Lotus club, etc? Please tell us your experience if or after you go there.

AndySana
12-14-20, 18:29
Girls can ask the price they want. I know some people pay 700 for a girl doesn't worth even 200. A nice girl came to my place for 250 + Uber for an hour. She has 17.000 followers on Instagram and a lot of pictures and videos. Good fuck, great for the price. An agency sent one for 400 that I sent back because she wasn't the girl of the pictures. Another one didn't want to kiss and blow me without, which was agreed in the messages. I didn't know I was speaking with the agency. She went home, and she paid for her Uber. She was mad with the agency. When there is an agency in the middle, prices aren't good and performance are even worse. Some girl asked me 700 for an hour, one asked me 1000. There is no girl on the earth with that value in Brasil, not a single one. I do not pay 1000 for an hour, no one should. I found a girl, 21, all natural with just some lips injection, which I love, who does one of the best blow / hand job I ever had. And she is like my girlfriend when she is with me. She even speaks English. What can a 1000 girl give me more? Most likely nothing. Scandallo girls are the same prepagos you pay 200 or 300 per hour. They do ask twice the price at Scandallo. One was in my room yesterday and we have spoken about the place. She told me: when I'm there I do ask a lot of money, because people there have a lot of money. Of course, if you are willing to spend 350 just to be in the place, then you should spend 900 to pay a girl. I don't do that. I can, but I don't do that, because there is no woman worth that amount in Sao Paulo. Best website is Fatalmodel, because you can see a video and have a real idea how the girl looks. I stopped to use all the others. That's the only one reliable..Interesting; how did you find that girl from Instagram?

Gimmedub
12-14-20, 19:09
Something similar happened to me a few years back. Got there as the presentation was going on for someone else and this blonde came through who got picked. I said fine and went with someone else. Went to the hotel and showered / ate. Then said fukk it and went back. Got the blonde. Had a fun time. We exchanged numbers and decided to go to a steakhouse together. We were chatting and I explained to her what happened. She showed me the picture of the other girl who's her roommate / best friend that I took. Had a laugh about that. Then went back to the hotel. Hit the mini bar and had a good workout before an uber home.

All in all I found Abbobora to be worth the extra money.


Last Saturday I missed Pamela by a couple of minutes. Pamela was girl I wouldn't hesitate to go with for 600 if I saw her at Scandallo. She got scooped up before my eyes by a customer who was already seated when I entered. Another, less spectacular new girl I saw for the first time Saturday was Lorena.

So today I went to Abbobora with a view to session Pamela, or, failing her, Lorena. No luck. I was told those 2 girls were freelances, whatever that meant, and only came on Saturdays.

So there you are, in this clinic Saturday is the best day of the week if you want to see something different from the standard line-up.

Member #4732
12-14-20, 23:43
So I have been scouring all the websites, private55, clubmodel, splove for SP so I can find out who I would like to meet in January. But I did not find any of the girls attractive or attractive enough or stunning for me to want to meet her. Is it me and what I have become that my standard is soo high right now and have no way of lowering it? Or the quality is lower because of covid? Also, I see the same faces everytime in those website. Hopefully when I go to the clubs I can find plenty of my tastes LOL. Rio is even worse as I looked at barravip etc also. Well damn.

Hope SP don't go into another lockdown or worse restrictions than now.I can never honestly say whether the selections are better or worse for any taste other than my own. Personally, I feel like there are stretches when I am seeing new hotties more frequently than other times. But I think you just have to take what SP gives you at any moment and be grateful. I am very selective and so I do not expect to be overwhelmed with "must see" choices. When I go to a clinica if I see 1 new chick that is a "must try" that is great and if there are 2 its a bonanza. When I look at the escort sites, there are seldom new "must see" anuncios, but over time there is movement. Confirmation bias plays a big role which is why I think so many guys have different impressions of the same lineup. Some guys will be like "wow, great lineup" if there are 2 hotties for his taste. Another guy, same lineup "Meh".

In general, I think the best approach is diversification. Don't bank to heavily on finding exactly your type, or your venue + type. The diamonds are scattered around in the clinicas, the boates, and the freelancers.

ParsTiger
12-15-20, 00:11
Hi guys just wondering if any boots on the ground can report any busty Asian-Latinas given the high percentage of Asians in SP. Looking for the best of both worlds. Thanks for any replies.https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/orientais

https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/procurar.japinha

https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/sexo-anal/procurar.jap

Here this is the most effective way I have found in terms of a decent number of girls. My observations indicate that although SP hosts the largest (yes) Japanese Diaspora community in the world there are a limited number of girls who professionally do it so they appear to be slightly more cost since they are a niche. Don't expect to get the full kimono experience unless they specifically advertise it, these girls for the most part are multi-generational Brasileiras, many who advertise are probably only half or 1/4 Asian if that is important to you. There are two that occasionally advertise 3 somes and I have considered trying them if they are still doing that when I finally do go. There's just something so hot about two toned Asian chicks conversing in a deep Latin language.

Nuupter
12-15-20, 00:15
Anyone stayed in Maksoud Plaza before? Is it girl friendly?

ParsTiger
12-15-20, 00:23
Girls can ask the price they want. I know some people pay 700 for a girl doesn't worth even 200. A nice girl came to my place for 250 + Uber for an hour. She has 17.000 followers on Instagram and a lot of pictures and videos. Good fuck, great for the price. An agency sent one for 400 that I sent back because she wasn't the girl of the pictures. Another one didn't want to kiss and blow me without, which was agreed in the messages. I didn't know I was speaking with the agency. She went home, and she paid for her Uber. She was mad with the agency. When there is an agency in the middle, prices aren't good and performance are even worse. Some girl asked me 700 for an hour, one asked me 1000. There is no girl on the earth with that value in Brasil, not a single one. I do not pay 1000 for an hour, no one should. I found a girl, 21, all natural with just some lips injection, which I love, who does one of the best blow / hand job I ever had. And she is like my girlfriend when she is with me. She even speaks English. What can a 1000 girl give me more? Most likely nothing. Scandallo girls are the same prepagos you pay 200 or 300 per hour. They do ask twice the price at Scandallo. One was in my room yesterday and we have spoken about the place. She told me: when I'm there I do ask a lot of money, because people there have a lot of money. Of course, if you are willing to spend 350 just to be in the place, then you should spend 900 to pay a girl. I don't do that. I can, but I don't do that, because there is no woman worth that amount in Sao Paulo. Best website is Fatalmodel, because you can see a video and have a real idea how the girl looks. I stopped to use all the others. That's the only one reliable.Agreed on all points, I've been doing this long enough to know that the key to a good trip is to always have contingencies and not have all your hopes staked on one or two girls but have a cheat list of like 20 and of course self-disciplining yourself on redflags, IE when to walk away because especially in SP there's always more Perhaps a shotgun approach but rather closed choke pattern LOL. Thanks for the fatalmodel heads up they look like a far superior resource.

PussyRiot
12-15-20, 03:48
Tried to go to Spicy Bar aka Hot bar but it closes at 10 pm. The bouncer gave me name of another bar named Gauguin that stays open till 5 am.
100 R room rent upstairs for 1 hour. Damn, wish I had try this club while visiting.

Would you considered this place low end of boate?




In general, I think the best approach is diversification. Don't bank to heavily on finding exactly your type, or your venue + type. The diamonds are scattered around in the clinicas, the boates, and the freelancers.Great point. Can't imagine what Sao Paulo would have look before Covid with all the options available.

Even with limited options, it is still place to be at this time IMHO.

Jojab007
12-15-20, 04:27
It was Saturday night. I have been told nightlife kicks in on Wednesday completely dies on Sunday. I will try other bars starting Wednesdays and post reports. What I have heard Saturday is THE night everywhere.


Could you tell us what day is that? What a sight to see, would have brought them all to Asturias for a reverse gb LOL? And yes compared to FKK and Brazil, the girls will hang out with you and not rush you. That is why I like Brazil better than FKK, and not keep telling you to go to room, or rush off if they know you are wasting their time. If you ever meet someone who keeps rushing or pushing you in Brazil, know that is a red flag for bad experience, but I have not experienced it yet.

Will you be going to other clubs that was never or not much spoken here? Such as Imperium club Moema, Lotus club, etc? Please tell us your experience if or after you go there.

Nuupter
12-15-20, 04:29
I can never honestly say whether the selections are better or worse for any taste other than my own. Personally, I feel like there are stretches when I am seeing new hotties more frequently than other times. But I think you just have to take what SP gives you at any moment and be grateful. I am very selective and so I do not expect to be overwhelmed with "must see" choices. When I go to a clinica if I see 1 new chick that is a "must try" that is great and if there are 2 its a bonanza. When I look at the escort sites, there are seldom new "must see" anuncios, but over time there is movement. Confirmation bias plays a big role which is why I think so many guys have different impressions of the same lineup. Some guys will be like "wow, great lineup" if there are 2 hotties for his taste. Another guy, same lineup "Meh".

In general, I think the best approach is diversification. Don't bank to heavily on finding exactly your type, or your venue + type. The diamonds are scattered around in the clinicas, the boates, and the freelancers.Yes I agree. I'm sure this will all be solved once I visit one of the boates or clinicas LOL. Have not had a chance to follow your advice on clinicas yet, as every time I was there, I visited boates and got what I wanted. Also found freelancers on fatamodel who I just contacted, gave me her instagram, and from her instagram it seems like I follow one of her followers too, makes me wonder if that follower of hers does freelancing too LOL. All of them did modelling for magazines.

Polyamorist
12-15-20, 04:46
It gets me great service.
With a 9 or 10? You left that part out LOL!
Salaam Citizen. Probably 10's on your scale. 8's on mine.

I just did a foursome with three 7's to celebrate my 777th post. Can't wait till I get to 999.

Incrociatore
12-15-20, 08:11
First day in SP:

Tried to go to Spicy Bar aka Hot bar but it closes at 10 pm. The bouncer gave me name of another bar named Gauguin that stays open till 5 am.

The club started warming up after 11. Apparently it has different activities on different days. I happened to be there on best day. It was a swing party, disco, brothel, hooker pickup all packed in one. Also seemed like a place where relatively aged males bring their young girlfriends to satisfy their bisexuality. After a while, you will see all over place girls rubbing and kissing each other, while their BF stands on the sideline. Some couples were having sex in the middle of crowd, some upstairs with open drapes for all to see.

I picked up a college student in mid twenties, she said she needed money for college. She wasn't lying I checked. She quoted 700 R. I was told by a local that 400 is THE price. After some bargaining and back and forth she agreed. 400 R for her and 100 R room rent upstairs for 1 hour. We fooled around kissing, dancing, rubbing, drinking before going into room. Unlike other cities, where a girl tries to score as many guys possible to make most money. She just hung out with me all night, till 3 am. That's like taking GFE experience to whole new level..I think your math is wrong:

400 the girl + 120 the entrance + 100 the room + x for the drinks = 400 + 120 + 100 + x = 620 + x = $122 + x.

Most likely $130 not $83. But if you spent 3 hours with her and at least two shots, that's a good deal.

One thing I noticed is that the quality doesn't make the price. There are girls much more attractive than other asking half of the money. There are ugly prepagos asking 500/ h, and hot ones, asking for 250. You know, one girl can score a client every two days at 500 or 700 and be happy with that. As a matter of principle I'm not going to pay more than 500/ h, and IMHO it's already too much. And for 500 they need to come to my place, I'm not going to visit a girl in a nasty flat for 500.

How many girls did you see in the club and which was the level?

Turgid
12-15-20, 14:03
Something similar happened to me a few years back. Got there as the presentation was going on for someone else and this blonde came through who got picked. I said fine and went with someone else. Went to the hotel and showered / ate. Then said fukk it and went back. Got the blonde. Had a fun time. We exchanged numbers and decided to go to a steakhouse together. We were chatting and I explained to her what happened. She showed me the picture of the other girl who's her roommate / best friend that I took. Had a laugh about that. Then went back to the hotel. Hit the mini bar and had a good workout before an uber home.

All in all I found Abbobora to be worth the extra money.I don't know if other guys have noticed this. I have been to Abbobora on a few occasions and saw really hot girls walking by the paying area who do not participate in the lineup.

The Cane
12-15-20, 14:20
Salaam Citizen. Probably 10's on your scale. 8's on mine.

I just did a foursome with three 7's to celebrate my 777th post. Can't wait till I get to 999.Is she a 7 or an 8 on your scale? Because she's a 10 on mine. You don't get to butt fuck these types for 400 or 500 reals, let alone bang them all night for that price. Salaam! And a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all!

WyattEarp
12-15-20, 14:32
Girls can ask the price they want. I know some people pay 700 for a girl doesn't worth even 200. A nice girl came to my place for 250 + Uber for an hour. She has 17.000 followers on Instagram and a lot of pictures and videos. Good fuck, great for the price.She sounds like a pro. Is there a reason you can't share her name?

I was hoping someone would have already asked this question.

WyattEarp
12-15-20, 14:47
Best website is Fatalmodel, because you can see a video and have a real idea how the girl looks. I stopped to use all the others. That's the only one reliable.I checked out Fatalmodel. It seems legit for a few reasons. There is a wide age range not just glossy photos of very young women who come and go. And yes, the videos are genuine and not glossy. I kind of laugh that they have the women stand, pose and rotate with a card that looks more like a police photo shoot than an erotic shoot. Some of the women look very different in their videos than their professional photos. The videos are dated and some of the photos look like they are from several years and several kilos ago.

Lastly, many of the women look like women you will find in the clinicas. There were a few stars on the site. So yes, thanks. It seems like a very valid website for escorts.

Polyamorist
12-15-20, 14:58
Yes luckily you can pay cash. However, the purpose of using a credit card is to avoid the hassle (and vicious circle) of carrying enough small change. How do you generate small change? By paying cash elsewhere, so you end using cash a lot more than you would.
The convenience of using a card with Uber Brasil is certainly tempting. But I shared my card with them, and within 48 hours fraudsters were attempting to feed it into eDreams. Maybe instead of accusing consumers of being careless Uber should take a look in the mirror.

Every gringo should select the cash option with Uber Brasil.

Hobbying
12-15-20, 15:13
Try to make friends with locals in the high end clubs not just in SP. They like to host sex parties and condoms are optional.

There is a reason why there are motels and sex shops on every block, both pros and non pros show up.

My friend told me the girls were free but maybe he just did not want me to pay for anything.

Seems like some people just don't care about covid or HIV these days nor do many girls take contraceptives.

There are many urgent care clinics, take the girl to get tested together and have fun later and this sets up a level of trust and she might end up fucking for free like a GF.

SP girls are becoming like girls in Europe, services can be ala carte by paying for each fetish. This may be better because many girls will say they do everything (faco tudo) but really need to be specific and just pay for each service like 100 R in the clubs or 50 R in the clinics.

HarvestBoi
12-15-20, 16:58
Which is what makes Brasil and Sampa such a cornucopia. I have my "type" preferences, yes, but find that it takes me a looong time to choose someone and often it's a combination of looks and vibe and some other ill defined parameter. Which is why I like boates, I can spend hours just looking and fantasizing. FKK is good for this too.

Clinicas tend to be more in and out. Does anyone know a clinica where they encourage you can hang for awhile between sessions? I remember hanging out with ABG (rest his soul) with some of his buddies downstairs at Tangara but at the other clinicas when I went alone I felt uncomfortable.



In general, I think the best approach is diversification. Don't bank to heavily on finding exactly your type, or your venue + type. The diamonds are scattered around in the clinicas, the boates, and the freelancers.

Nuupter
12-15-20, 17:50
Is she a 7 or an 8 on your scale? Because she's a 10 on mine. You don't get to butt fuck these types for 400 or 500 reals, let alone bang them all night for that price. Salaam! And a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all!Maybe 7. Need more pictures from different angles. Lips made the scale down to 7. Without that thick make up its a 7. I won't pay more than 500 for that. LOL, I think I can find better. Sorry my standards so high hahaha.

Torgoch
12-15-20, 19:13
I don't know if other guys have noticed this. I have been to Abbobora on a few occasions and saw really hot girls walking by the paying area who do not participate in the lineup.It could be that they are pretty much booked up for the day? When I was in Sampa for 2015 with work, I kept hearing about a girl called Grazie at Brooklin but she was never in the line-up. Turns out she was pretty much booked up all day on the days that she worked.

Kcrl01
12-15-20, 23:38
Hi guys just wondering if any boots on the ground can report any busty Asian-Latinas given the high percentage of Asians in SP. Looking for the best of both worlds. Thanks for any replies.Busty enough for you? Her name is Suzuki, she's from Manaus, but she's in Sao Paulo for the week.

Polyamorist
12-16-20, 02:38
Is she a 7 or an 8 on your scale? Because she's a 10 on mine. You don't get to butt fuck these types for 400 or 500 reals, let alone bang them all night for that price. Salaam! And a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all!That photo made me yell "جمل البنت جمل البنت" ! How did you get Kayleigh McEnany to come to Brazil with you?

But the boobs look fake to me. And the hair roots are dark. The eyebrows are painted on. And the eye color is nice but presumably contact lenses. So on my scale she would be an 8+. Just being honest. On my scale, to be a 9 it isn't enough to be a Barbie, she's got to be Real. Very few girls are 9's to me, not even movie stars. As for 10, that is just a theoretical figure, like the speed of light. Nobody is a 10.

DiverOyster
12-16-20, 02:47
It was Saturday night. I have been told nightlife kicks in on Wednesday completely dies on Sunday. I will try other bars starting Wednesdays and post reports. What I have heard Saturday is THE night everywhere.I will check out Gauguin with my super hot Scandallo babe on the Saturday after Christmas Day and if good, also on the Saturday after New Year's Day. I plan to do my girl in public while she's kissing and eating out other girls. I always love public sex. The last time I had public sex was at FKK Globe at end of 2019. It has been too long.

DiverOyster
12-16-20, 02:53
It was Saturday night. I have been told nightlife kicks in on Wednesday completely dies on Sunday. I will try other bars starting Wednesdays and post reports. What I have heard Saturday is THE night everywhere.Actually, I found Saturday nights to be more quiet at Scandallo than Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday nights. This observation was confirmed by a Scandallo girl, who said that on Saturday nights, the married guys have to be with their families.

DiverOyster
12-16-20, 03:14
I am very interested to hear what is your experience there during Christmas and New Years. Was planning to go there then, but got to wait till Jan. For the prices of the longer term 24 hours, the prices you mentioned are what I was quoted also. When I was there back in August, a Connection girl wanted 1200 and said she will stay for however long I want her to be. Careful though, make sure she keeps her word. And then there is this girl from clubmodel who I met a few times last years for long stays. Wanted 1500 for it, but back in August asked for 3000 for it. I laughed and never contacted her again. So 1200-2500 is reasonable. If she is very pretty and we have chemistry after our initial meet I would agree to 3000 also. I think for those that are more good looking will not budge from under 1200, but of course you can try to low end them, and they will counter you with what they want. But do meet them first for 1 hour or so so they get to know you and they will be more acceptable to lesser price if they find they like you and have chemistry.I agree. If she likes you and enjoys being with you, she will charge a minimal rate. A super hot and super GFE solid 8+ (tall 5'9" slim, with long slender legs and long brunette hair, flat tummy, slender ass, pretty face) asked me a paltry 1,000 for 24 horas, dai enteiro. She's a classic European beauty with slender, tall figure and long legs. I had met her at Scandallo on my last trip and invited her to my place the next day, 500/ hour. She genuinely enjoyed the time we spent together so much that her rate went from 500/ HR to 1,000/24 hours. She even offered BBFS if I'm up for it. Unbelievable deal. She offered 1,000/24 horas and I gladly accepted. No bargaining was involved. I may keep her for days and hang out with her like a girlfriend. I love Brazilian girls. They are so sensual.