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Mr Enternational
06-06-21, 19:34
As for the currency exchange, I don't recall the exchange rate being mentioned regarding the airport. 5:1 exchange rate at the mall was decent, so I lost $10 from that mistake at the airport. I don't think I really regret it. I didn't need the cash, but you never know what emergency you'd run into. I've read the post regarding using Schwab. And I'll get around to it, probably by the end of the year.There are not many airports around the world that you can exchange money and not get totally fucked. Philippines and Dominican Republic (Ban Reservas, the other bank will fuck you) are the best that I have seen and next to those is Thailand. Any other airport, just use the ATM. It only takes 2 minutes these days to set up an account online with Schwab. My mom and dad hardly travel, but I set up an account for both of them to use when they need.
I was going to reply to your earlier message and tell you to try Vivo on the third floor at Ibirapuera, but I got locked out. I got a SIM card there last December and again this past Monday. Took about 45 min. I have no CPF but they arrange it. I think I paid $12 reais for the sim and an extra $100 reais or so and got set up with loads of data good for 6 months.
Instead of doing exchange try using a debit card. They are accepted almost everywhere. Or withdraw from the ATM. Some ATMs charge fees. Some do not. My best luck is with Bradesco ATMs.
For a decent steak try Barbaro in Vila Olimpia. It's not too far from Shopping Ibirapuera.Bresdesco gives the best rates imo. Usually what the lowest rate was yesterday. Banco24 and Santander is the worst. Itau and Banco do Brasil doesn't allow international debit cards. If you use your credit card for purchases there is a 6% surcharge w / cielo processer.
Can get CPF as a tourist, just go to their CPF office, one on Av Paulista.
Claro is the only provider with 5 G but is spotty, 30 R for 6 gigs of data and whatsapp data is free and free calls if you use their prefix dialing 021.
Seems like all the top girls have gone MIA or hooked up w / a BF or have regular clients.
Only 10% of the population has been fully vaccinated with the China vaccine being 50% effective against the P1 variant, it will be until at least the end of the year before things are "normal" again.
You must be on an antiquated plan. The T-mobile plan that I have had for the last many years includes unlimited data while traveling, free calls and texts between USA, Canada, and Mexico. Free calls over wifi. I pay $70 including taxes. It has been close to 10 years that I was able to ditch my Brazilian SIM because of T-mobile.That is the one I have also. Last time I was in a T-Mobile store was when I got my XS which was close to three years ago. I think I changed my plan back then. I should go back in and see what they offer now. I do remember that I have the higher speed data while traveling which is what the extra $10 might be for.
I went to Scandallo yesterday, Saturday evening and stayed until closure at 9 pm. As there were recently a bit contrary reports on the situation at Scandallo, unfortunately my experience was almost exactly the same as Lalabo's:
The only areas open are the bar right by the entrance, adjacent smoker room where people are cramped together and the restaurant, which was pretty much deserted. Disco and Patio closed, Party atmosphere non -existent. Girls quality the lowest I have ever experienced in my maybe 30+ total visits before and during pandemic. Total maybe 50-60 girls, some older and overweight, average 5's and 6's at best, some would even have a hard-time in cheaper places. Few doable girls, hardened pros, pushy and annoying trying to get you to the room, certainly no model quality. Reduced Cover 50 Reais + 150 Consumption. Girls confirmed that during the week movement is even slower. I don't think I will go back until they get back to normal opening hours. The place to be at the moment is definitely Connection. They have more and better girls with quite a few who are normally working at Scandallo.Thanks for the update on Scandallo. There are few other forum members on the ground this week, so let's see if they see anything different there. Like you I liked Connection and it was way better than Scandallo and Bamboa when I visited. There were lots of girls there, mostly average looking ones but there were many good looking girls too. It is worth checking out connection even tough it is bit far (30+ min Uber ride) from Moema area.
This one of the closet hotel to the clinicas and Prime. I asked the front desk, you can check in after 9 am if there is availability in this large hotel. Before 9 am, they will charge half day. If checking out very late, like 8 pm they also charge half day. For those with USA flights. I've been staying at an Airbnb in meoma which was even closer. I was walking around this morning to see my housing options for next time.I don't remember at what time I got to bourbon but they did charge me half day for early check-in. They will charge half day for late checkout until 7 pm (no charge up to 2 pm) and they charge full day for checkouts after that.
I have been a FKK fan for last 6 years. I thought it was amazing system where you can session with girls, relax in the sauna, eat or sleep for the entire day. I have missed it for the last 18 months. SP is competing for the title. One thing still going for FKK is that is that the girls are naked or near naked. You can really pick your body type. Almost all FKK speak English which is a big play. In SP, the girls are dressed and they can really hid flaws. The service and price of SP clinicas is on top though. For 30 to 50 US $ you can have one full hour of GFE sex with CIM and anal included. If you want to party at night, you can go to the boates but it's more expensive. In SP, got to learn Portuguese to speak with the girls, google translate isn't the same.I agree with everything you said. When girls are clothed there is potential for surprises.
SinfullyKorean
06-07-21, 00:09
Still phone issues
Went to the mall again to Vivo on the 3rd floor of Ibirapuera. Lady that helped me yesterday said that I should come back tomorrow. It was close to 8 pm yesterday when she "reset" my account and said it would take up to 24 hours for the reset to take effect. Their store closes at 8 PM on Sundays. Fortunately, there were plenty of clinica options within walking distance, so it wasn't too big of a deal. Lots of places closed on Sunday, so I don't feel like I'm missing out too much.
I swear, if they can't figure it out by tomorrow, I'll probably try my luck elsewhere and switch providers.
Clinicas
For the newbs: You're waiting with several other mongers in a lobby where the receptionist desk is. Doesn't seem like anybody finds it awkward, and it's funny to see some of them seem well acquainted with one another.
Visited Carinas first this time, since they were busy last night. Turns out they're closed today (Sunday). Walked over to Clinica Miruna. About 7 girls walked into the lobby to introduce themselves, one at a time. None of them piqued my interest. One was a 7, Clara. Others were about a 6. So headed over to Prime again. Mia from last night texted that she couldn't make it to the shop today. Actually made me want to visit the shop more. Girls came out one by one again. First Pauli (8), she was very pretty, about 5'5". She was snatched up immediately. Next was Eva (8). She looked to be very young, pretty, and tight. So I decided to session with her.
Eva, I learned later, was 20 years old. I asked her before the session started if she's ok with French Kiss and she said yes. But as the session progressed, she didn't allow for french kissing. Just some pecks on the lips, then she'd turn her head. It might've been for the better as her breath stank. I also noticed that she brought 2 condoms, so I figured MSOG is available. She starts with a good amount of fondling the johnson with her hand. I started to suck on her tits. She's got a pretty small set of breasts and eraser sized nipples. Her breasts were much firmer than Mia's. Eva was pretty responsive when I sucked her nipples and I started to get hard. She applied the cover I brought (Sagami. 01) and started the BJ. So no BBBJ here. I asked her for it, but she pointed to her mouth, said something, and I said fine. I don't know if she was saying she's got an infection in her mouth or she doesn't want one. After a few minutes, she got on top for CG (she's very tight). I started pounding from under and she was really vocal. This is when I discovered her breath stank. Then switched to MISH, where again, no DFK. Finished in K9, grabbing that tight ass of hers.
We talked for quite a bit, using google translator. It was nice to try and learn a bit of portuguese from her. After about 20-30 minutes, I started to suck her nipples again and she gave me a HJ. She applied another Sagami and we went directly to K9. K9 was where it really felt like I didn't have a cover on due to her tightness and the thinness of Sagami. Just as I was picking up my pace, the phone rang. It took a good 10 minutes or so, but I was able to get my 2nd shot. I didn't get her Zapp because no DFK and BBBJ. As I entered the lobby, this guy in a wheelchair pointed at me and said something. I guess another guy was waiting for Eva. He had actually walked in as Eva was introducing herself earlier on. I'm glad I picked her right away. The other guy seemed to feel like Eva was worth waiting a whole hour for. It looked like a good mix of Asians and Brazilians in the lobby. But the Asians are probably Brazilian. I thought it was pretty cool that Asians are accepted as Brazilians, unlike the US. Paid the 240 REAL and waited in the lobby a bit.
That's when Nyla walked in. A beautiful negra. I don't know if I'd session with her, as I prefer brancas. But if any of you are into negras, I would recommend her. She looked very pretty. I wanted to wait to see who else they had, but nobody was coming out for a while. Didn't want to look too creepy, so walked out after a while.
Prime is so far my favorite in my limited scope thusfar. It's been super budget friendly, too. 480 REAL for 2 days of sessions so far. I'll probably venture out tomorrow after I get internet on my phone.
Food
Wanted some more steak and tried out Terra Fruta in the area. Great reviews on google and tripadvisor. Finally got to try the Caipirinha with Tangerine and Strawberry. It was ok, not sure why it's such a big deal. I was super hungry by now (hadn't eaten anything all day). So I ordered the Bolinho de Bacalhau and the File Mignon Mostarda. Stuffed myself for $130 REAL. It was much better than the Zillis I had yesterday. But steaks here don't seem very thick.
Responses
I didn't care to get a new Schwab account as I don't travel much yet. I plan on traveling much more starting the end of this year or early next year so I'll definitely open one before then. For those without a Schwab account, I recommend exchanging currency close to home before your trip to Brazil.
The phone plan I got was $2 (activation) and $10 for data + minutes. I don't know how much data / minutes. Communication was very difficult, even with google translate. It is definitely a cheap option if I can get it to work. I tried T-Mobile for a brief time a couple years ago, but they didn't have very good coverage many places (close by work, home, golf courses), so I've been with Verizon for many years.
Staying in Bourbon has been a huge blessing. Being able to walk around everywhere even though my phone's internet's not working has made the biggest difference. Thank you for suggesting this hotel!
SamaRiding
06-07-21, 01:35
The open area of Scandallo is as mentioned, the restaurant and outdoor patio only, and everything is packed in there. Maybe 50-70 girls. They are in sexy evening dresses but most maybe 75% had fake tits, which is not my preference. This trip is my first time to SP so I have nothing to compare to. There were a few stunners but no one who I consider a natural supermodel. The top girls in Prime were comparable to the girls in Scandallo. That's why I liked prime and spent most of my time there. I ended up being a regular and popped in 2-3 times a day to check who was in. My Airbnb was only 3 blocks away.
SamaRiding
06-07-21, 02:26
Food.
There is really good sushi in moema. Try Toro, it's a block away from Prime. Burgers are big in SP. The most popular one is O'Burger which always have a long line outside, never got to try. For Brazilian steaks, there is Fogo de Chao is a classic. If you have been to one before, this one is the same. I was just there with two fun girls on my last meal before flying out tonight. Also a few good Turkish / Arab places.
Prime.
Today was a bad Sunday lineup at prime. Only 6 girls. Eva is there only there on Sundays. I sessioned with her probably right before you did. I also used a Sagami 001 with her and she said she never saw one before. Was she surprised when you pull one one? Hahahaha. I never got the numbers of Clinica girls. It so cheap to begin with and so many options. I only repeated with two girls during my week. If want you save money, you can post session reviews on gp-guia.net and instead of 240 reals, you get a discount to 170 reals. I never bothered. Also doubles are only 290 reals for one-hour, which is only $10 USD more than the single price!
Phone WiFi.
You got to a functional one to get around from Uber, scanning QR at restaurants, and google translate. You can download a offline map in google maps. I have T mobile one plus which includes international roaming at a slower speed. Sometimes it takes to load but it has worked in many countries. You can even pay for a high speed day pass for like $5 per day.
Have fun this week.
SamaRiding
06-07-21, 02:36
Go to Rio for the termas and an FKK-like experience.I did visit the Rio thermas maybe two years ago when on a work trip. Honestly I was not impressed. It may be my particular preferences which is for white spinners, less fake T & As, and the thermas were lacking. I found the girls in SP more my taste.
DiverOyster
06-07-21, 02:38
I have been a FKK fan for last 6 years. I thought it was amazing system where you can session with girls, relax in the sauna, eat or sleep for the entire day. I have missed it for the last 18 months. SP is competing for the title. One thing still going for FKK is that is that the girls are naked or near naked. You can really pick your body type. Almost all FKK speak English which is a big play. In SP, the girls are dressed and they can really hid flaws. The service and price of SP clinicas is on top though. For 30 to 50 US $ you can have one full hour of GFE sex with CIM and anal included. If you want to party at night, you can go to the boates but it's more expensive. In SP, got to learn Portuguese to speak with the girls, google translate isn't the same.Agreed with you. At fkks, it's impossible to make any mistakes on the girls' physical parts because they are totally naked. In Sao Paulo, I made quite a few mistakes both at clinicas and boates. Now, I roam my hands as much as I can to check out the physique before I commit to going to room. If you make a mistake, it is only R240 at clinicas. At Scadallo, it would be a R730 mistake (R500 for the girl, R230 for the room).
DiverOyster
06-07-21, 02:45
Still phone issues
Went to the mall again to Vivo on the 3rd floor of Ibirapuera. Lady that helped me yesterday said that I should come back tomorrow. It was close to 8 pm yesterday when she "reset" my account and said it would take up to 24 hours for the reset to take effect. Their store closes at 8 PM on Sundays. Fortunately, there were plenty of clinica options within walking distance, so it wasn't too big of a deal. Lots of places closed on Sunday, so I don't feel like I'm missing out too much.
I swear, if they can't figure it out by tomorrow, I'll probably try my luck elsewhere and switch providers.
Clinicas
For the newbs: You're waiting with several other mongers in a lobby where the receptionist desk is. Doesn't seem like anybody finds it awkward, and it's funny to see some of them seem well acquainted with one another.
Visited Carinas first this time, since they were busy last night. Turns out they're closed today (Sunday). Walked over to Clinica Miruna. About 7 girls walked into the lobby to introduce themselves, one at a time. None of them piqued my interest. One was a 7, Clara. Others were about a 6. So headed over to Prime again. Mia from last night texted that she couldn't make it to the shop today. Actually made me want to visit the shop more. Girls came out one by one again. First Pauli (8), she was very pretty, about 5'5". She was snatched up immediately. Next was Eva (8). She looked to be very young, pretty, and tight. So I decided to session with her.
Eva, I learned later, was 20 years old. I asked her before the session started if she's ok with French Kiss and she said yes. But as the session progressed, she didn't allow for french kissing. Just some pecks on the lips, then she'd turn her head. It might've been for the better as her breath stank. I also noticed that she brought 2 condoms, so I figured MSOG is available. She starts with a good amount of fondling the johnson with her hand. I started to suck on her tits. She's got a pretty small set of breasts and eraser sized nipples. Her breasts were much firmer than Mia's. Eva was pretty responsive when I sucked her nipples and I started to get hard. She applied the cover I brought (Sagami. 01) and started the BJ. So no BBBJ here. I asked her for it, but she pointed to her mouth, said something, and I said fine. I don't know if she was saying she's got an infection in her mouth or she doesn't want one. After a few minutes, she got on top for CG (she's very tight). I started pounding from under and she was really vocal. This is when I discovered her breath stank. Then switched to MISH, where again, no DFK. Finished in K9, grabbing that tight ass of hers.
We talked for quite a bit, using google translator. It was nice to try and learn a bit of portuguese from her. After about 20-30 minutes, I started to suck her nipples again and she gave me a HJ. She applied another Sagami and we went directly to K9. K9 was where it really felt like I didn't have a cover on due to her tightness and the thinness of Sagami. Just as I was picking up my pace, the phone rang. It took a good 10 minutes or so, but I was able to get my 2nd shot. I didn't get her Zapp because no DFK and BBBJ. As I entered the lobby, this guy in a wheelchair pointed at me and said something. I guess another guy was waiting for Eva. He had actually walked in as Eva was introducing herself earlier on. I'm glad I picked her right away. The other guy seemed to feel like Eva was worth waiting a whole hour for. It looked like a good mix of Asians and Brazilians in the lobby. But the Asians are probably Brazilian. I thought it was pretty cool that Asians are accepted as Brazilians, unlike the US. Paid the 240 REAL and waited in the lobby a bit.
That's when Nyla walked in. A beautiful negra. I don't know if I'd session with her, as I prefer brancas. But if any of you are into negras, I would recommend her. She looked very pretty. I wanted to wait to see who else they had, but nobody was coming out for a while. Didn't want to look too creepy, so walked out after a while.
Prime is so far my favorite in my limited scope thusfar. It's been super budget friendly, too. 480 REAL for 2 days of sessions so far. I'll probably venture out tomorrow after I get internet on my phone.
Food
Wanted some more steak and tried out Terra Fruta in the area. Great reviews on google and tripadvisor. Finally got to try the Caipirinha with Tangerine and Strawberry. It was ok, not sure why it's such a big deal. I was super hungry by now (hadn't eaten anything all day). So I ordered the Bolinho de Bacalhau and the File Mignon Mostarda. Stuffed myself for $130 REAL. It was much better than the Zillis I had yesterday. But steaks here don't seem very thick.
Responses
I didn't care to get a new Schwab account as I don't travel much yet. I plan on traveling much more starting the end of this year or early next year so I'll definitely open one before then. For those without a Schwab account, I recommend exchanging currency close to home before your trip to Brazil.
The phone plan I got was $2 (activation) and $10 for data + minutes. I don't know how much data / minutes. Communication was very difficult, even with google translate. It is definitely a cheap option if I can get it to work. I tried T-Mobile for a brief time a couple years ago, but they didn't have very good coverage many places (close by work, home, golf courses), so I've been with Verizon for many years.
Staying in Bourbon has been a huge blessing. Being able to walk around everywhere even though my phone's internet's not working has made the biggest difference. Thank you for suggesting this hotel!Hehe, tomorrow Monday if you go to Scandallo, it won't be budget friendly no more. On my first day at Scandallo, I did 4 sessions, at around R800 each including room. Be careful with the room charge, though. At Scandallo, if you go over 1 hours, the room rate goes up. I never get out with R230. The reception always nailed me for $280 or $300 for the room or so because the chics took forever to shower after the sessions. Watch out the girls drinks as well. The girls will keep asking you for drinks, and if you are a gentleman, you will end up with a substantial bill when you check out.
I agree with everything you said. When girls are clothed there is potential for surprises.You can say that again. Recently I picked this 'beauty' whose mid section magically doubled in size once the clothes came off.
SinfullyKorean
06-07-21, 06:32
Hehe, tomorrow Monday if you go to Scandallo, it won't be budget friendly no more. On my first day at Scandallo, I did 4 sessions, at around R800 each including room. Be careful with the room charge, though. At Scandallo, if you go over 1 hours, the room rate goes up. I never get out with R230. The reception always nailed me for $280 or $300 for the room or so because the chics took forever to shower after the sessions. Watch out the girls drinks as well. The girls will keep asking you for drinks, and if you are a gentleman, you will end up with a substantial bill when you check out.Holy crap man! 3200 REAL in one night? That sounds amazing, but I don't think I even have the drive for that. Probably 2 at the most. But even then, I'd assume I'd have another visit to a clinica before I go to Scandallo. More than anything, I just want to enjoy the ambience. But it doesn't sound very enjoyable right now with their restrictions. I'll let you know. =).
One thing I'm starting to think is that I don't enjoy the session as much when I can't communicate. Now I understand how the mongers feel in CA when they're banging the Korean chicks. I didn't have this thought when I was in Thailand, but they speak way more English than Brazilians seem to. I've yet to meet any garota that speaks any English. But I've only sessioned twice so far, so that can change, right? Not expecting, but hoping.
I could imagine learning Brazil if I had the time. Spanish and Portuguese have so much in common.
Holy crap man! 3200 REAL in one night? That sounds amazing, but I don't think I even have the drive for that. Probably 2 at the most. But even then, I'd assume I'd have another visit to a clinica before I go to Scandallo. More than anything, I just want to enjoy the ambience. But it doesn't sound very enjoyable right now with their restrictions. I'll let you know. =).
One thing I'm starting to think is that I don't enjoy the session as much when I can't communicate. Now I understand how the mongers feel in CA when they're banging the Korean chicks. I didn't have this thought when I was in Thailand, but they speak way more English than Brazilians seem to. I've yet to meet any garota that speaks any English. But I've only sessioned twice so far, so that can change, right? Not expecting, but hoping.
I could imagine learning Brazil if I had the time. Spanish and Portuguese have so much in common.Not too many of the girls speak English. I've found some occasionally at Abbabora and Brooklin. And last week I had a session with Marina, a slim blond at Prime. She spoke English pretty well. But having some knowledge of Portuguese is helpful.
Still phone issuesI thought it was pretty cool that Asians are accepted as Brazilians, unlike the US.
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But steaks here don't seem very thick.
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For those without a Schwab account, I recommend exchanging currency close to home before your trip to Brazil.Yep, we don't accept Asians as Brazilians in the USA.
I like Brazilian steak very much, but I don't remember those thick cuts that you see in an American steakhouse.
I'm fairly sure you won't get a great rate for Brazilian Reais at a North American or European bank. It might be better than the airport, but that is about it.
One thing I'm starting to think is that I don't enjoy the session as much when I can't communicate. Now I understand how the mongers feel in CA when they're banging the Korean chicks. I didn't have this thought when I was in Thailand, but they speak way more English than Brazilians seem to. I've yet to meet any garota that speaks any English. But I've only sessioned twice so far, so that can change, right? Not expecting, but hoping.
I could imagine learning Brazil if I had the time. Spanish and Portuguese have so much in common.I saw many sharky types just looking for foreigners who can't speak Portuguese, so just be careful. If you don't like anyone just go to connection and check it out (I don't know how it is on Monday). In connection you could sit in the restaurant and have convo using app at without being pressured to order food and drinks like in Scandallo.
I saw many sharky types just looking for foreigners who can't speak Portuguese, so just be careful. If you don't like anyone just go to connection and check it out (I don't know how it is on Monday). In connection you could sit in the restaurant and have convo using app at without being pressured to order food and drinks like in Scandallo.Nobody has ever pressured me to order food or buy drinks at Scandallo. Not ever.
I like Brazilian steak very much, but I don't remember those thick cuts that you see in an American steakhouse.For the best steaks in the Americas, you need to go to the United States, Argentina, or Uruguay.
Member #4698
06-07-21, 18:27
Not too many of the girls speak English. I've found some occasionally at Abbabora and Brooklin. And last week I had a session with Marina, a slim blond at Prime. She spoke English pretty well. Marina, it is a small world, what a tight, gymnastically limber body that one has. I loved the way her tits are placed on her chest, her flat stomach / thin legs, and that vagina. WoW! But of course she wants to have silly cones. I practically begged her not to and even I told her they would ruin her look.
She loves everything California which is why she speaks some English. I went upstairs with her on two separate occasions. She was not my favorite Prime girl or even 2nd favorite, but she was still notable and repeat worthy. I liked her.
Hotel check-in was pretty smooth. Although she forgot to give me my wifi password. If you're booking in Bourbon hotel, the username and password are the hotel room and firstname+lastname (lowercase). Thanks for the report. Can you check the internet speed?
I asked her before the session started if she's ok with French Kiss and she said yes. But as the session progressed, she didn't allow for french kissing.
Does anyone know what will happen if I refuse service at this point and go get another girl?
It looked like a good mix of Asians and Brazilians in the lobby. But the Asians are probably Brazilian.
There are more than 1 million Japanese-Brazilians living in Sao Paulo. There is a Japan town in Liberdade.
I think all US providers have some kind of short term international plan, you can check your provider's plan so you can use it in the future while you are trying to get local sim to work.
Nobody has ever pressured me to order food or buy drinks at Scandallo. Not ever.That might have been the case pre-pandemic but now they ask you to order if you sit in mostly empty restaurant. That maybe the reason why during my recent visit the huge restaurant remained empty even though the smoking area and small bar areas were packed.
I did visit the Rio thermas maybe two years ago when on a work trip. Honestly I was not impressed. It may be my particular preferences which is for white spinners, less fake T & As, and the thermas were lacking. I found the girls in SP more my taste.But that's also my preference. Well brancas that is anyway. And as can be seen in my many, many Rio pics over the years, it's almost all brancas found in the termas all over Rio. That all can't be attributed to pure luck, but I know timing can be everything in this hobby. I mean, the last time I was in Rio was two years ago as well (time flies) and things certainly weren't like they had been. For example, at both Centaurus and Solarium where I used to find lots of those white girls. But, this pandemic has changed everything up again. When it's over, I think that the pickings in both Rio and Sao Paulo are going to be better than ever. Including for finding the brancas we both like! More girls are going to need to sell tits and ass to make ends meet, and that will bring every type out again. Including the brancas. Wait, watch, and see.
SinfullyKorean
06-07-21, 22:16
Yep, we don't accept Asians as Brazilians in the USA.
I like Brazilian steak very much, but I don't remember those thick cuts that you see in an American steakhouse.
I'm fairly sure you won't get a great rate for Brazilian Reais at a North American or European bank. It might be better than the airport, but that is about it.The exchange I recommend before the trip is only for emergency funds. Of course, optimal situation is if you have a schwab account. For me, I don't think there's a be&M schwab branch close where I live. Sometimes, I need to go meet in person for some transactions (e. G. Withdrawing more than the ATM limit). The airport exchange felt like highway robbery (loss of 25% Another ISG member recommended Corrientes 348 in Vila Olimpia, so I'll try that in the next few days. For now, I'm over steak. LOL.
I saw many sharky types just looking for foreigners who can't speak Portuguese, so just be careful. If you don't like anyone just go to connection and check it out (I don't know how it is on Monday). In connection you could sit in the restaurant and have convo using app at without being pressured to order food and drinks like in Scandallo.Thanks, I'll try and keep my eyes open.
Thanks for the report. Can you check the internet speed?
There are more than 1 million Japanese-Brazilians living in Sao Paulo. There is a Japan town in Liberdade.
I think all US providers have some kind of short term international plan, you can check your provider's plan so you can use it in the future while you are trying to get local sim to work.My provider is Verizon and their international plan is $10 per day. https://www.verizon.com/solutions-and-services/international-travel/. My phone's working today. It's been quite a headache, but the cost is only $12 for 5 GB and unlimited minutes and text. It was frustrating not to have internet for the first couple days, but everything's ok now. =).
The internet speed at my hotel seems to vary between 15 Mbs and 35 Mbs download, 10-20 Mbs upload. I haven't had issues, but I'm not working here, either.
SamaRiding
06-07-21, 23:38
Marina, it is a small world, what a tight, gymnastically limber body that one has. I loved the way her tits are placed on her chest, her flat stomach / thin legs, and that vagina. WoW! But of course she wants to have silly cones. I practically begged her not to and even I told her they would ruin her look.
She loves everything California which is why she speaks some English. I went upstairs with her on two separate occasions. She was not my favorite Prime girl or even 2nd favorite, but she was still notable and repeat worthy. I liked her.I also sessioned with Marina last week and she had a amazing body. But I don't remember our session that well besides it was good. That's how good are the Prime girls, Marina isn't even on my wow list of the sessions I remember the most.
Don't been so sure that the Asians in prime are mostly Brazilian. On my first Sunday, I was there at 1 pm and there were me and three other Asian guys from good ole USA. We were the only customers for a while. In Brazil, Sundays are for God, family and friends.
Gigi Buffon
06-08-21, 00:13
Yep, we don't accept Asians as Brazilians in the USA.
I like Brazilian steak very much, but I don't remember those thick cuts that you see in an American steakhouse.
I'm fairly sure you won't get a great rate for Brazilian Reais at a North American or European bank. It might be better than the airport, but that is about it.The predominant steak houses in Brasil are Churrasqueiras, Brazilian love them because of good quality, fast service and good value, but you do not get those typical cuts in those places. However, next time in São Paulo, try going to Rubaiyat in Faria Lima, Pobre Juan or Corrientes 348 (both located in Miguel Calfat, opposite extreme) you will find the thick cut type steaks on those restaurants. There are other steak houses that offer those cuts as well in Jardins and Itaim Bibi.
The exchange I recommend before the trip is only for emergency funds. Of course, optimal situation is if you have a schwab account. For me, I don't think there's a be&M schwab branch close where I live. Sometimes, I need to go meet in person for some transactions (e. G. Withdrawing more than the ATM limit). The airport exchange felt like highway robbery (loss of 25% Another ISG member recommended Corrientes 348 in Vila Olimpia, so I'll try that in the next few days. For now, I'm over steak. LOL.I understand your concern about emergency funds, but I don't want newbies to Brazil to get the wrong idea. If you are going to Brazil, the airport is not the best place to get a SIM card or exchange currency but these are not really big issues. I usually pay up for a ride at the airport that takes credit card or most likely I or a friend have a driver who will pick me up for XX dollars.
Once you are settled in at the hotel you don't really need Brazilian currency or a SIM card immediately. Plenty of restaurants and cafes take credit card. In a pinch, you can rely on your hotel to give you a better exchange rate than the airport or your local bank.
SinfullyKorean
06-08-21, 01:20
She was not my favorite Prime girl or even 2nd favorite, but she was still notable and repeat worthy. I liked her.Who were your favorites?
The internet speed at my hotel seems to vary between 15 Mbs and 35 Mbs download, 10-20 Mbs upload. I haven't had issues, but I'm not working here, either.I have never used bourbon hotel WiFi so I have ho idea how fast their service is. Are the speeds you have listed from hotel WiFi or from your mobile service provider by local SIM?
Marina, it is a small world, what a tight, gymnastically limber body that one has. I loved the way her tits are placed on her chest, her flat stomach / thin legs, and that vagina. WoW! But of course she wants to have silly cones. I practically begged her not to and even I told her they would ruin her look.
She loves everything California which is why she speaks some English. I went upstairs with her on two separate occasions. She was not my favorite Prime girl or even 2nd favorite, but she was still notable and repeat worthy. I liked her.Your description of Marina is excellent. She is in very good shape. I enjoyed her a lot. She was the first and only girl I've had at Prime but I'm expecting to spend a lot more time there over the next few days. I'll try the others. But I do recommend her. Not the best but very attentive and fun to be with.
Regarding the discussion on steaks, I suggested Barbaro in Vila Olympia. Another good place for Argentine and Uruguay cuts is Fogo Steakhouse (not Fogo de Chao) with a branch in Morumbi. Excellent place.
Member #4698
06-08-21, 02:26
Who were your favorites?My favorite was a girl next door type by the name of Angelica. She was amazing. I went back to Prime many times and asked specifically about her twice, but I never saw her in the line up again. She looked good and wholesome, Ha Ha, and no way was she a stunner, but she had the ability and wherewithal to give 110% of herself in a session. She was amazing.
As for other attractive Prime girls, I never had a bad or ho hum session there, so in October I will be ready and willing to go upstairs with any girl in the lineup that I fancy and repeat with any girl I already had. This is why I think Prime is a great massage parlor! In addition to Angelica (1 x) and Marina (2 x), I had memorable good sessions with Kari (1 x) & Agatha (2 x).
P.S. I am looking forward to reading your report on the Boates. They are the one venue I sorely missed due to the code red lockdown when I was in SP.
NB.
...Now I understand how the mongers feel in CA when they're banging the Korean chicks. I didn't have this thought when I was in Thailand, but they speak way more English than Brazilians seem to...I am from CA and my mongering diet locally has been mostly Korean WGs, with a few Chinese WGs sprinkled in. This started back in 2008, so I decided to pick up some hanguk. I can carry basic convo with my limited "baby" Korean, but honestly I have done fairly well when we could not converse. The sessions are typically one hour long. Oftentimes there is no need to talk, and the hour goes by quickly. I am used to it by now.
SinfullyKorean
06-08-21, 05:46
Skip to "Connections" section for FR. The clinicas section has info, but I didn't session there today. Apologies in advance for making it so long. If you feel like it's too long, feel free to drop me some ideas on what I should skip. No offense taken!
Phone is Working!
I was really excited this morning when I found out my phone's internet was working. I found out how to check the balance and I have about 4. 5 GB still left. Should be plenty. So the cost is $12 for 1 month, unlimited minutes and text, 5 GB data. It's very cost effective, if you can handle the hurdles of getting it to work initially.
Food
I wanted to go somewhere far now that I could finally take Uber. I've been using this site to look for good eats: https://www.eater.com/maps/best-sao-paulo-restaurants. And went to La Guapa. It's completely overrated, or I might've had too high of expectations. The Uber there cost about $20 REAL. Lunch combo (1 empanada, 2 oz mocaccino, and chocolate ice cream) cost $23 REAL. It was good, but not worth going out of the way for. It was a really light lunch and I wasn't full, but 10 minutes after finishing my meal, I was no longer hungry. I think this is how I should be eating. LOL.
I was craving pizza for dinner, but couldn't find any decent ones open close by. Just started walking around and ended up at Bar Roma. Got their Bife stroganoff. It was ok. None of the meals so far have impressed me much. Toro, O'Burder (by Samariding), Corrientes 348 (Nordico), and Miss Saigon are on the top of my restaurants list. If anyone knows a good pizza place close by, please let me know!
Clinicas
I was in the Jardin area after lunch so decided to check out a few clinicas and apartments. I have to say, this was more of a learning experience than anything else. Up til this point, I've only visited the clinicas near my hotel (Bourbon Convention).
First, I went to Casa 1 (Alameda Joaquim Eugnio de Lima, 1674, casa 1). I was there a little after 3 pm, but they only had 1 girl working: Julia. She was ok (7), and MMS said her service is really good, but I wasn't feeling it. MMS says more girls will be here in about an HR. So I start walking around and it starts raining hard. I got drenched in a few minutes and finally succumbed to buying a $3 umbrella. I don't mind too much. It was a minor discomfort and viewed it as a small adventure. =).
I start wandering based off the list that World Travel 69 https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=-23.5712019462112%2C-46.65791632429512&z=17&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU compiled. I walk around to Top Massagem Jardins, Corpus Terapia Massagem, and MASSAGEM MIX. All of them seem to be apartments. Initially, I was confused (only been to clinicas). I walk into the apartment and ask the front desk, "Is there massage here? Hahaha. The guy responds "No". I walk out embarrassed.
I look at the website listed in WT69's list (http://www.massagemmix.com.br/) and it has a number to Zapp. They tell me to check in at the front desk and gives me the "shop's" room number. This was around 4 PM. When I get upstairs she tells me I need to book an appointment and that they're busy until 6 PM. So I reply that I'll be back next time. There was a very pretty garota getting onto the elevator as I was leaving. I should've asked for her name, but I'm still not confident in speaking to the chicks yet.
I make my way back to Casa 1 again. 2 other garotas have arrived, but 2 are already working. Only 1 other girl left, I think she said her name is Brazil? She had big tats on her left leg, and I found her to be less attractive than Julia. So I Ubered back to Prime. Marina caught my attention. Fellow ISG told me she doesn't kiss. Natty seems to have enjoyed her a lot. They were busy anyways, no room until 6 PM. So I walked over to Carinas again. Same as before, they showed me pics on a tablet, and nobody really interested me.
Back to the hotel to rest a bit. After dinner at Bar Roma, I decided to check out Connections.
Connections
Total Damage: are $970.
RT Uber ride: are $80, are $50 entrance, 200 drinks (my whiskey 90, her Rum 70, my beer 40), 140 for room, 500 for 1 HR with Beatrice. I was kind of surprised that ladies drinks don't cost more than the regular drinks. I guess they don't make commission off drinks like they do in Thailand and Tijuana?
Beatrice was a stunner. I think she's a 9. But service was about a 7. She has contacts, which makes her eyes look like teal / brown. (Obnoxiously) HUGE bolt ONS, decently big ass, and a beautiful face.
I noticed Beatrice the moment I walked in. But I didn't want to jump into things, so ordered a whiskey. Baby sipped the whiskey and looked around. Everytime I looked over, we made eye contact and she knew I was into her. After a good 10 minutes, she walked over and we started to talk (via Google Translate) and I ordered her a drink. She was amazing and I fell for her pretty hard and we were making out a lot. I asked how much to take her upstairs, and she said 1000. I giggled and told her that's way too much. She said 800, and I said still too much. I told her my limit's 500 and she said ok. From previous reports, 500 seems to be a decent rate for the top choices. She calls me a cat, not sure if that has the same context as in Asia (I. E. Cunning fox?
We go to the elevator which takes us down. Then swap elevators to go up to where the rooms are. Receptionist asks me if I want to pay Beatrice via credit card. It has a 6. 5% surcharge, so I tell her I'll pay cash. She's given 2 condoms, so I take that as 2 pops are allowed. Once we get to the room, we start making out. She says she's already washed, so I clean myself with a quick shower while she turns on some music and starts dancing. I come out of the shower and we start making out again. She has a really nice soft, sensual kiss. She's very careful with BBBJ. She took a very careful look at my dick and smelled it to make sure I didn't have any STI. Her BBBJ wasn't all that great, but it got the job done. She applied the cover and got on top for CG. Switched to MISH and DFK. And finished in K9 while putting a thumb up her ass.
A few minutes after round 1, she said lets go downstairs. But I told her it's only been 30 minutes. She said ok, but that kind of killed the mood for me. I tried to go for round 2, but it wasn't happening. She said she could speak greek for some more REAL, but I didn't care too much for it. If it comes with the service, I'm game. But I enjoy pussy enough that I don't care for paying extra for the back door.
We leave, I pay for the room, and we head over to the main area again. She says she needs to go to the bathroom, which means she's done with me. I get another beer to soak in the atmosphere before I leave for the night. I notice another hot garota. We keep making eye contact, but I was already spent for the night. She gets pulled into a table with 8 guys and many other girls. Finally, she leaves them, I approach her and she says her name is Vanessa. I might check her out next time I visit.
All in all, I'm glad I went to Connections. Beatrice was much hotter than any of the other garotas I've seen so far. I was a little disappointed the session wasn't as GFE as I'd expected. Total damage was almost are $1000. An HR at a clinica sets me back about are $240. I'll probably try out Connections / Scandallo one more time before I leave. I really enjoyed the seduction before the session. And I was in love for the hour I was with her. But it's not something I'd make a habit of doing.
Another thing, most of these garotas seem to have LOTS of tats all over. I don't particularly find it appealing, but I know some mongers find it outright unattractive.
That might have been the case pre-pandemic but now they ask you to order if you sit in mostly empty restaurant. That maybe the reason why during my recent visit the huge restaurant remained empty even though the smoking area and small bar areas were packed.I went to scandallo a few times in January right after their code red was lifted and no one really pressured me to buy anything. You get like 130 r consumable out of the 300 r entrance fee (I forget the exact numbers so I could be off) and a steak was like 110 r so I would always get something like that to eat at the restaurant area after I scouted the place and girls (all the local restaurants were closed by 9 pm so I made it my dinner for the night) I'm not a drinker so I would just get cokes for like 10 r. The waiters would often come by after a 30 mins or so and ask if I wanted another drink but I would just say I'm good. None of the girls asked for any drinks or food when I invited them to sit down with me. I offered them a drink or some appetizer since I got girls who were obviously not pros and were students looking for extra cash. I liked the restaurant area with it's high ceilings and low light ambient with jazz music playing in the background. It's kind of funny to look around and see the working girls relaxing and just eating food with their friends and socializing. The girls were always walking in and out to spot new guys so I would get a dinner with a sort of line up show!
SinfullyKorean
06-08-21, 05:50
I have never used bourbon hotel WiFi so I have ho idea how fast their service is. Are the speeds you have listed from hotel WiFi or from your mobile service provider by local SIM?Speed I listed are from my hotel WiFi. My phone from Vivo provider seems to be about 30 Mbps down, 2 Mbps up.
Skip to "Connections" section for FR. The clinicas section has info, but I didn't session there today. Apologies in advance for making it so long. If you feel like it's too long, feel free to drop me some ideas on what I should skip. No offense taken!
Phone is Working!
I was really excited this morning when I found out my phone's internet was working. I found out how to check the balance and I have about 4. 5 GB still left. Should be plenty. So the cost is $12 for 1 month, unlimited minutes and text, 5 GB data. It's very cost effective, if you can handle the hurdles of getting it to work initially.
Connections
Total Damage: are $970.
RT Uber ride: are $80, are $50 entrance, 200 drinks (my whiskey 90, her Rum 70, my beer 40), 140 for room, 500 for 1 HR with Beatrice. I was kind of surprised that ladies drinks don't cost more than the regular drinks. I guess they don't make commission off drinks like they do in Thailand and Tijuana?
Beatrice was a stunner. I think she's a 9. But service was about a 7. She has contacts, which makes her eyes look like teal / brown. (Obnoxiously) HUGE bolt ONS, decently big ass, and a beautiful face.
I noticed Beatrice the moment I walked in. But I didn't want to jump into things, so ordered a whiskey. Baby sipped the whiskey and looked around. Everytime I looked over, we made eye contact and she knew I was into her. After a good 10 minutes, she walked over and we started to talk (via Google Translate) and I ordered her a drink. She was amazing and I fell for her pretty hard and we were making out a lot. I asked how much to take her upstairs, and she said 1000. I giggled and told her that's way too much. She said 800, and I said still too much. I told her my limit's 500 and she said ok. From previous reports, 500 seems to be a decent rate for the top choices. She calls me a cat, not sure if that has the same context as in Asia (I. E. Cunning fox?
All in all, I'm glad I went to Connections. Beatrice was much hotter than any of the other garotas I've seen so far. I was a little disappointed the session wasn't as GFE as I'd expected. Total damage was almost are $1000. An HR at a clinica sets me back about are $240. I'll probably try out Connections / Scandallo one more time before I leave. I really enjoyed the seduction before the session. And I was in love for the hour I was with her. But it's not something I'd make a habit of doing.
Another thing, most of these garotas seem to have LOTS of tats all over. I don't particularly find it appealing, but I know some mongers find it outright unattractive.I use tmobile and I have the ONE Plan with ONE Plus benefits. It connects to all the towers and uses the best one. I didn't have to do anything to get it working. It was fast to watch youtube videos, use uber and google maps / translate. I would suggest anyone to look into it because it's really simple and comes included. You have to use a Tmobile phone tho because when I used a unlocked phone it didn't work too well.
Connections sounds pretty good / I never went because scandallo was so good with it's relaxing ambience and connections sounds more like a night club / bar? It was also pretty far since I was in Republica. I will have to check it out. Also heard Cafe photo / Lotus was decent but never went. Haven't heard any reports lately from there, is it still open?
I am also on the boat of not liking tattoos too much. I think if it's done tastefully it can be ok but yea some girls go way to overboard or it's just a mess with some decent tats and then some ridiculous ones in weird places. One exception I had was with a girl from scandallo named Barbara who was japanese brazilian who was a pale petite girl with some colorful shoulder and chest tats. She had a punk rock look to her so I digged it. I like the more all natural look myself but some tasteful tatts can be nice depending on the girl / location / quality.
Skip to "Connections" section for FR. The clinicas section has info, but I didn't session there today. Apologies in advance for making it so long. If you feel like it's too long, feel free to drop me some ideas on what I should skip. No offense taken!
Phone is Working!
I was really excited this morning when I found out my phone's internet was working. I found out how to check the balance and I have about 4. 5 GB still left. Should be plenty. So the cost is $12 for 1 month, unlimited minutes and text, 5 GB data. It's very cost effective, if you can handle the hurdles of getting it to work initially..You seem to not be having good luck with food. That's unfortunate. Keep trying. I suggested a couple of places earlier and for pizza maybe try Braz? It's nearby. I haven't been in a couple of years but the place was hopping and the pizza and chopp were always great. But there are so many great places for pizza. Also, there are some good restaurants in the basement level of Shopping Morumbi (the food court is very good but there are also sit down restaurants around the corner). Barbacoa is good. Also, upstairs in the mall is an argentine restaurant called Pobre Juan. It's very good as well. The mall should be 10 min or so from where you are by Uber.
Food
None of the meals so far have impressed me much.The last time I was in Sampa, one of the best (and most expensive) meals I had was at Tony Roma's LOL! American-style ribs, steaks, and seafood. There's one in Moema (I don't know if it survived the pandemic shutdowns). I went with an attractive morena I had been fucking from the old Bomboa site. Afterwards, we went back to my hotel to spend the night. And believe it or not, the best meal that I had was at Scandallo's restaurant. Too bad it's closed. I went with an attractive redhead who I had fucked at the club. After having "relations", we went down and had dinner. She offered to spend the night with me back at my hotel, but I declined as I want to seek out a new pretty piece of ass. You know how a monger is!
Food
I wanted to go somewhere far now that I could finally take Uber. I've been using this site to look for good eats: https://www.eater.com/maps/best-sao-paulo-restaurants. And went to La Guapa. It's completely overrated, or I might've had too high of expectations. The Uber there cost about $20 REAL. Lunch combo (1 empanada, 2 oz mocaccino, and chocolate ice cream) cost $23 REAL. It was good, but not worth going out of the way for. It was a really light lunch and I wasn't full, but 10 minutes after finishing my meal, I was no longer hungry. I think this is how I should be eating. LOL.
I was craving pizza for dinner, but couldn't find any decent ones open close by. Just started walking around and ended up at Bar Roma. Got their Bife stroganoff. It was ok. None of the meals so far have impressed me much. Toro, O'Burder (by Samariding), Corrientes 348 (Nordico), and Miss Saigon are on the top of my restaurants list. If anyone knows a good pizza place close by, please let me know!
I am still surprised that you haven't hit a churrascaria yet. Take some time off from walking around looking for clinical and enjoy a nice long meal with various caipirinhas and meat.
I always hit up Margarita Pizza in Sao Paulo probably because it is walking distance from my hotel. It is really good pizza.
Member #4698
06-08-21, 17:32
I am still surprised that you haven't hit a churrascaria yet. Take some time off from walking around looking for clinical and enjoy a nice long meal with various caipirinhas and meat.
I always hit up Margarita Pizza in Sao Paulo probably because it is walking distance from my hotel. It is really good pizza.The code red restrictions were lifted only on my last 3 nights in SP, so I am sure other BM's have many more recommendations than myself, but since you mentioned Margarita Pizza, I thought it apropos to add my two reals to the conversation. When the SP restaurants finally re-opened, I went to:
Rodeio SH. Rua Haddock Lobo, 1498, Jardins. This Michelin 1 star restaurant served the best steak that I had on my entire trip. It was not only very tasty, but it was so tender I could have cut it with a butter knife.
Fogo de Chão Jardins. Are. Augusta, 2077 – I liked this place too. Great food, but the meat is served Brazilian style, so you sample a lot of different cuts of beef instead of having one large steak. I prefer having one large cut of meat sitting in front of me. Ha Ha.
Margherita Pizzeria. Alameda Tietê, 255 – Jardins – great pizza – I went there with my favorite call girl of my trip on our last night together. What a great gal!
So, that is about it. 3 no restriction nights and I was able to sampled 3 restaurants. The closures drastically cut down on my usual eating patterns and culinary explorations on this trip and they had a much greater negative impact on my dining than the closures had on my mongering thanks to the call girls and SP Clincas.
Stinky Squid
06-08-21, 18:48
Hi fellas, I am asking a lot of questions here and remembered I have an overdue report I owe. So Paulo, picked her from photoacompanhantes, Giovana Paes. I tell you why I went with her, despite her asking for quite a hefty sum BRL 400 without anal. It was the chemistry in the whatsapp conversation. There is a difference between the all business talk and the non-responsiveness of some vs. A certain sincerity and smile you hear in their message, the way they say things. Perhaps it's the friendliness of the mineiras (from MG). Anyway warm is good. So I went to the apartment on Marciano (there are a few apartment buildings in Bela Vista you hear come up over and over, one is Major Diogo, and the other is Marciano somethingorother. The Marciano building is simpler, as you have no door man, no ID check, just dial her apartment number on the interphone and she lets you in. There is no real lobby but she might make you wait, mine did, and it was cute, because she got herself ready for me after asking me (offering it) what I like her to wear. So I had her do the schoolgirl outfit and boots. Again I felt warmly welcomed the whole time. I went to the bathroom to wash and took a bit longer apparently. But she didn't discount this from my time. No clock watching. It help that Brazilian scene is more giving with time anyway, a 2 hour standard is common. She was quite sweet, we started relatively quickly because I wanted to play some deepthroat action, which she had first agreed to, but then said she wasn't sure she could do it. I went at it too fast for my own good, I could have played that part out for longer. But she was sweet and I wanted to do some face to face action too. Again, has I taken this a little slower from the start, I. E. , conversing more in the beginning and making out first, it would have been better. But she was warm the entire time. Touching her pussy was met with a bit of an ouchiness, dry, of course, again, all of that I could have done better with more emotional foreplay. I knew she was open for it after the deed was all done, and I got dressed and out, she actually jumped on me to give me a hug, we were making fun of her being so tiny and me being so tall (I love me a tiny girl). Soon after our meeting she went for a protracted time out, if she was back in business, I'd probably hit her up just to continue that connection that we made at the end of the first session, to make the second much better.
Anyway, she did a good job to finish me off and her specialty is CIM, which I think she has some sort of psychological thing because she really seems to likes that, swallowed it down todinha. Good girl!
One thing that distracted me was that her hair was fake. I love long hair and I know most have the extensions. In her case I learned she lost most of her natural hair in some incident in a hospital almost a year earlier. This was sad to hear and a bit of a downer. Health is hot, lack of health, whatever the reason, psychological or somatic, is a bit of a downer.
The PSE wasn't all that, and anyway her porn videos aren't really that professional hard core. The thing with her hair was a downer, didn't feel like pulling was an option nor really messing with it, I wish I had caught her earlier, the way she looked then.
But now that I wanted to share a link with you I noticed she actually might have returned to a more active status. So, when I'm back in the area I might hit her up just to continue that little thing we had going for a minute there.
Brazil calling: https://twitter.com/GiPaes2/status/1402167765692256259.
This is her debut: https://www.xvideos.com/video55790503/a_bucetuda_giovanna_paes_liberou_o_cuzinho_pro_vinny_burgos_sem_frescura_.
PS: waiting in the Marciano building and on my way out I saw a lot of girls on their way in or out, so this is a busy center of action.
The last time I was in Sampa, one of the best (and most expensive) meals I had was at Tony Roma's LOL! American-style ribs, steaks, and seafood. There's one in Moema (I don't know if it survived the pandemic shutdowns). Sadly, they were a victim of the Rona and recently announced they'd be permanently closed. I rented a luxury loft in Largo the Batata to sit out the quarantine and self isolation. When I returned to my hood in Bela Vista I was shocked at the number of small businesses that had gone under. There are spots in Sao Paulo that have been irreparably devastated economically by the Rona.
Very sad!
Upside, you can find some seriously hot GdPs working for reduced rates!
I'm arriving in São Paulo in a few weeks late on a Saturday evening and staying for a few days. What are some good Sunday daytime options? Evening?
The code red restrictions were lifted only on my last 3 nights in SP, so I am sure other BM's have many more recommendations than myself, but since you mentioned Margarita Pizza, I thought it apropos to add my two reals to the conversation. When the SP restaurants finally re-opened, I went to:
Rodeio SH. Rua Haddock Lobo, 1498, Jardins. This Michelin 1 star restaurant served the best steak that I had on my entire trip. It was not only very tasty, but it was so tender I could have cut it with a butter knife.
Fogo de Cho Jardins. Are. Augusta, 2077 I liked this place too. Great food, but the meat is served Brazilian style, so you sample a lot of different cuts of beef instead of having one large steak. I prefer having one large cut of meat sitting in front of me. Ha Ha.
Margherita Pizzeria. Alameda Tiet, 255 Jardins great pizza I went there with my favorite call girl of my trip on our last night together. What a great gal!
So, that is about it. 3 no restriction nights and I was able to sampled 3 restaurants. The closures drastically cut down on my usual eating patterns and culinary explorations on this trip and they had a much greater negative impact on my dining than the closures had on my mongering thanks to the call girls and SP Clincas.I see we have similar tastes in food.
That Fogo do Chao is a must do for me. I get there late afternoon with the girl that I am with, drink lots of caipirinhas, eat lots of meat and then we go fuck afterwards. After some rest, we go out for a small bite to eat and drinks and then back to the room for more fucking.
I also try to get some good sushi while I am down there. Last time I tried Nakka Jardins and it was good. I also did Jun Sakamoto but that was pretty expensive being a Michelin one star.
Sinfully Korean — do take some time and hit up the Mercado Municipal for a pastel and maybe a mortadella if you like sandwiches.
I also try to get some good sushi while I am down there. Last time I tried Nakka Jardins and it was good. I also did Jun Sakamoto but that was pretty expensive being a Michelin one star.I love sushi! The thing is, the very first time I went to Brazil (Rio), I had some about halfway through a 10-day trip and got violently ill. I was afraid the rest of my maiden voyage to bundaland would be ruined, but my sickness only lasted a day. Since that time, I vowed never to have sushi in Brazil again, and I haven't. Maybe it's time to give it another try.
Sadly, they were a victim of the Rona and recently announced they'd be permanently closed. I rented a luxury loft in Largo the Batata to sit out the quarantine and self isolation. When I returned to my hood in Bela Vista I was shocked at the number of small businesses that had gone under. There are spots in Sao Paulo that have been irreparably devastated economically by the Rona.
Very sad!
Upside, you can find some seriously hot GdPs working for reduced rates!Thanks for the update. I'm also shocked at the number of businesses that have permanently closed in my metro area. Some of them had been around for decades. There will be new business replacements and a recovery, but it will take time. In the meantime, as you say. There is some pussy to be had!
Polyamorist
06-08-21, 23:29
Watch out the girls drinks as well. The girls will keep asking you for drinks, and if you are a gentleman, you will end up with a substantial bill when you check out.
In connection you could sit in the restaurant and have convo using app at without being pressured to order food and drinks like in Scandallo.
Nobody has ever pressured me to order food or buy drinks at Scandallo. Not ever.
Salaam Fellow Debauchers!
It's just a test. A girl might ask you to buy her something like a glass of water. Sounds harmless, but if you say yes it is a subcultural signifie that you are new to the club and she should charge you twice the going rate for a session. It has nothing to do with being a gentleman or ungentleman, you just have to understand the system.
But if you look like a real rube she won't ask you for a water, she'll ask for one of those R70 fake rums. Profit right away.
If you are a billionaire and money means nothing to you, you should still say no. Why? Because if you go to a room you will be treated with contempt if you show a lack of appreciation for the cultural norms. Money means something to them so it should mean something to you too. Show you care.
By the way it's different if you decide to offer a girl a drink after talking to her for a while. As long as it's crystal clear that you're the one making the choice. But whenever a girl asks for a drink, it has to be an automatic no. That's just the way a boate is.
Vagabundo1
06-08-21, 23:45
Is pretty much same as tony roma's.
Especially the blooming onion.
Sadly, they were a victim of the Rona and recently announced they'd be permanently closed. I rented a luxury loft in Largo the Batata to sit out the quarantine and self isolation. When I returned to my hood in Bela Vista I was shocked at the number of small businesses that had gone under. There are spots in Sao Paulo that have been irreparably devastated economically by the Rona.
Very sad!
Upside, you can find some seriously hot GdPs working for reduced rates!
Had a quick session at Prime early this afternoon. I arrived around 13:30. There was a good line-up. Probably 10-12 girls.
I went with Alice (pronounced Alicee). She wasn't the hottest but I found her very cute and with a nice build. I wasn't disappointed. She is very cute and friendly. Nice and pleasant. Small natural breasts and just a couple of small tattoos. She is very responsive to the touch and kisses. Service level was very good. Her BJ skills were amazing. Overall I really liked her and would repeat.
I've been quite impressed with Prime's lineup. The best I've seen in the clinicas.
Salaam Fellow Debauchers!
It's just a test. A girl might ask you to buy her something like a glass of water. Sounds harmless, but if you say yes it is a subcultural signifie that you are new to the club and she should charge you twice the going rate for a session. It has nothing to do with being a gentleman or ungentleman, you just have to understand the system.
But if you look like a real rube she won't ask you for a water, she'll ask for one of those R70 fake rums. Profit right away.
If you are a billionaire and money means nothing to you, you should still say no. Why? Because if you go to a room you will be treated with contempt if you show a lack of appreciation for the cultural norms. Money means something to them so it should mean something to you too. Show you care.
By the way it's different if you decide to offer a girl a drink after talking to her for a while. As long as it's crystal clear that you're the one making the choice. But whenever a girl asks for a drink, it has to be an automatic no. That's just the way a boate is.Saying no to a girl's drink requests is easier said than done. It is easy if you going to walk away from her, but what if you are interested in taking her to room? What do you say to manage the situation without offending the girl or putting a damper on the situation?
Vagabundo1
06-09-21, 03:00
You grab her ass, and say, "eu vou no banheiro, vou volta mais tarde. Qual e seu numero" while sticking your smartphone in her face, open to a new contact, and while sticking the card to the closest love motel upon which you have scribbled your number, saying, "250 reais, sem camisinha, sim o nao".
Like a mother fucking boss.
Because you are the prize.
Saying no to a girl's drink requests is easier said than done. It is easy if you going to walk away from her, but what if you are interested in taking her to room? What do you say to manage the situation without offending the girl or putting a damper on the situation?
All in all, I'm glad I went to Connections. Beatrice was much hotter than any of the other garotas I've seen so far. I was a little disappointed the session wasn't as GFE as I'd expected. Total damage was almost are $1000. An HR at a clinica sets me back about are $240. I'll probably try out Connections / Scandallo one more time before I leave. I really enjoyed the seduction before the session. And I was in love for the hour I was with her. But it's not something I'd make a habit of doing.Very nice detailed report, SK. I can't believe she started with typical Scandallo price of 1 K. I guess she pretty much knew you were a lock and wanted get as much as she could. The connection girl I went with did talk about Scandallo so I expected a Scandallo level ask, but to my surprise she started with reasonable 600 BR which I negotiated down to 500 BR (I have decided not to bargain too much).
Value wise you can't beat Clinicas especially clinica Prime. I have visited Clinica Prime everyday I was in Moema and sessionsed.
The Critic
06-09-21, 03:48
Skip to "Connections" section for FR. The clinicas section has info, but I didn't session there today. Apologies in advance for making it so long. If you feel like it's too long, feel free to drop me some ideas on what I should skip. No offense taken!Good format and a nice read. Good commentary.
IndecentPro
06-09-21, 12:31
Thanks for all the great reports, gents.
They are definitely useful for a first-timer to Brazil like me. I stumbled across the forum and while I have posted on my local country's forum, I am not an active contributor here.
Having said that, you all seem pretty reasonable if someone actually reads the forum and doesn't ask "where can I get girls" LOL. So I have read about 90 pages of the forum which I believe has given me a great base from which to frame some of my questions.
1. Everyone agrees that 90-99% of PA girls are scams. The way you can ensure you get a non-scam is to find girls with multiple reviews with members that have a history of reviewing girls. My question is regarding the Verified but without reviews girls. Are the truly verified or are these girls also scamming?
2. Lots of discussion on taking out money from ATMs or exchanging at the airport. For the number of REALS we're changing it might make a difference. I can get a decent rate from my bank. For example, the USD to BRL rate today is 5.04 and I can get 4.9 all fees included.
My questions are.
1. Are you all getting the 5. 04 rate?
2. If I do decide to bring money from my home country 5000 USD, are there any concerns with currency controls?
3. Has anyone tried xoom to send themselves money? I did it in Colombia and it got me a great (near spot) rate.
CPF Tax Card: is this required or useful? Seems like the people who don't like being tracked say no and others say there is a convenience factor. Thoughts?
I guess the SIM Card is hit and miss. Hopefully there is a trend of reports of how to get a local Sim card so best practices can be shared.
I'm planning my trip for Aug so I've compiled my list of clinicas / boates to give back to the community.
Steve 9696
06-09-21, 17:12
Thanks for all the great reports, gents.
They are definitely useful for a first-timer to Brazil like me. I stumbled across the forum and while I have posted on my local country's forum, I am not an active contributor here.
Having said that, you all seem pretty reasonable if someone actually reads the forum and doesn't ask "where can I get girls" LOL. So I have read about 90 pages of the forum which I believe has given me a great base from which to frame some of my questions.
1. Everyone agrees that 90-99% of PA girls are scams. The way you can ensure you get a non-scam is to find girls with multiple reviews with members that have a history of reviewing girls. My question is regarding the Verified but without reviews girls. Are the truly verified or are these girls also scamming?
2. Lots of discussion on taking out money from ATMs or exchanging at the airport. For the number of REALS we're changing it might make a difference. I can get a decent rate from my bank. For example, the USD to BRL rate today is 5.04 and I can get 4.9 all fees included.
My questions are.
1. Are you all getting the 5. 04 rate?
2. If I do decide to bring money from my home country 5000 USD, are there any concerns with currency controls?
3. Has anyone tried xoom to send themselves money? I did it in Colombia and it got me a great (near spot) rate.
CPF Tax Card: is this required or useful? Seems like the people who don't like being tracked say no and others say there is a convenience factor. Thoughts?
I guess the SIM Card is hit and miss. Hopefully there is a trend of reports of how to get a local Sim card so best practices can be shared.
I'm planning my trip for Aug so I've compiled my list of clinicas / boates to give back to the community.On your first couple.
Verified doesn't mean squat on PA. If they don't have 5+ reviews on Gpguia or the like from qualified reviewers just move on. I set my filter to only return girls with reviews, then go look carefully at those with 5 or more.
If you are bringing $5 K then you have some coin. I do the Boates then. It's so much better to dance and flirt and kiss and drink before the sex. It's fun on the floor and plus you have chemistry before the room even starts. I LOVE Brasil for this part.
I just use the Bank ATMs in town once I get downtown. A few have a local withdrawal limit but you can go to a couple if you get stymied. If you have a $500 or $800 limit (I have both) then you don't really need to bring and exchange cash. Just use the ATM with two caveats:
1. They are only open during bank hours (u may get lucky but assume that).
2. Decline the "Get USD and we will convert it for you" option. Take the option to withdraw in Reals and you will get your banks exchange rate not the inflated ATM one. Read carefully because they try to confuse you!
HarvestBoi
06-09-21, 17:38
I'm planning a trip to Sampa and Rio, tho I may go to Canada if it opens up soon and keep Brazil until the end of the year. I was reading and ran across warnings that you have to declare any currency more than 10,000 Reals at the border. Does anyone know if this is in effect and how onerous the declaration process is? I like to carry about $5 k US just in case I have ATM problems, which I did last time I was there (probably due to my bank's fuck up). I didn't even know about this at the time LOL, assuming that the currency control was the international $10 k US standard. I also read that most ATMs have a 1 k Reals limit per day? Due to above fuck up I didn't run into this. 1000 Reals isn't much. Any info is appreciated.
On my trip I changed 1 k USD at the currency exchange at Ibirapuera mall with no problem and got a better rate than I was quoted at the banks.
I'm planning a trip to Sampa and Rio, tho I may go to Canada if it opens up soon and keep Brazil until the end of the year. I was reading and ran across warnings that you have to declare any currency more than 10,000 Reals at the border. Does anyone know if this is in effect and how onerous the declaration process is? I like to carry about $5 k US just in case I have ATM problems, which I did last time I was there (probably due to my bank's fuck up). I didn't even know about this at the time LOL, assuming that the currency control was the international $10 k US standard. I also read that most ATMs have a 1 k Reals limit per day? Due to above fuck up I didn't run into this. 1000 Reals isn't much. Any info is appreciated.
On my trip I changed 1 k USD at the currency exchange at Ibirapuera mall with no problem and got a better rate than I was quoted at the banks.Please read the thread "Real vs Dollar and other currency issues". There is a lot of good info in there that will answer many questions.
Polyamorist
06-09-21, 19:01
Saying no to a girl's drink requests is easier said than done. It is easy if you going to walk away from her, but what if you are interested in taking her to room? What do you say to manage the situation without offending the girl or putting a damper on the situation?Salaam Lalabo, I walked away from a beautiful woman recently. Later she approached me again and begged for my number. Then she kept messaging me. I am as ugly as sin. No way would she have done that if I had bought her a fake rum. See, with women things often work the opposite of the way you would expect. Habibi Vagabunda knows the score.
I'm planning a trip to Sampa and Rio, tho I may go to Canada if it opens up soon and keep Brazil until the end of the year. I was reading and ran across warnings that you have to declare any currency more than 10,000 Reals at the border. Does anyone know if this is in effect and how onerous the declaration process is? I like to carry about $5 k US just in case I have ATM problems, which I did last time I was there (probably due to my bank's fuck up). I didn't even know about this at the time LOL, assuming that the currency control was the international $10 k US standard. I also read that most ATMs have a 1 k Reals limit per day? Due to above fuck up I didn't run into this. 1000 Reals isn't much. Any info is appreciated.
On my trip I changed 1 k USD at the currency exchange at Ibirapuera mall with no problem and got a better rate than I was quoted at the banks.I usually bring $5 k with me whenever I travel to Brazil. Never know when I will need cash to get out of a tight jam. I change when I get to Rio in Copa and usually change 1-2 k depending on the weekend deal with the girl. I then use the cash for all my expenses like Uber, restaurants and boates. I also don’t worry about leftover reais since I will be back again and use them up.
In my 20 yrs of traveling to Brazil, I have never been asked how much cash I was carrying at either the US or Brazil border.
I'm planning a trip to Sampa and Rio, tho I may go to Canada if it opens up soon and keep Brazil until the end of the year. I was reading and ran across warnings that you have to declare any currency more than 10,000 Reals at the border. Does anyone know if this is in effect and how onerous the declaration process is? I like to carry about $5 k US just in case I have ATM problems, which I did last time I was there (probably due to my bank's fuck up). I didn't even know about this at the time LOL, assuming that the currency control was the international $10 k US standard. I also read that most ATMs have a 1 k Reals limit per day? Due to above fuck up I didn't run into this. 1000 Reals isn't much. Any info is appreciated.
On my trip I changed 1 k USD at the currency exchange at Ibirapuera mall with no problem and got a better rate than I was quoted at the banks.After immigration at GRU you have to go through red channel at customs and declare if you bring in more than 10 k Reais or equivalent. They have computers, where you need to fill out a form and print it out before showing to customs officer. Pretty straightforward process. Did it a few times. Never actually had to count and show the money though. There are ATM allowing withdrawals up to 2500 BRL for example Bradesco.
HarvestBoi
06-09-21, 19:24
In my 20 yrs of traveling to Brazil, I have never been asked how much cash I was carrying at either the US or Brazil border.And frankly, it's not hard to conceal $5 k. Still.
http://cglondres.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/bringing_money_into_brazil.xml
I probably won't be writing any more reports for the time being, unless there's something new to add. These reports are fuckin' exhausting. LOL. I've included some pics, but I think both Beatrice and Sasha look much better in person.Thank you for your "service" SK LOL! As somebody who has written more than a few lengthy field reports of my own, I know and appreciate just how much hard work goes into writing a good report. I'm looking forward to more from you. I'm a little confused by the pictures though. I mean, who is supposed to be whom? Did I miss something in your write-up? I like the blonde and the one in the black. Very nice!
Jimmy Boy 99
06-10-21, 19:13
Snip. I've included some pics, but I think both Beatrice and Sasha look much better in person.Who is Maria? Is she the Connections girl? Very Nice! Congrats!
SinfullyKorean
06-10-21, 22:59
Thank you for your "service" SK LOL! As somebody who has written more than a few lengthy field reports of my own, I know and appreciate just how much hard work goes into writing a good report. I'm looking forward to more from you. I'm a little confused by the pictures though. I mean, who is supposed to be whom? Did I miss something in your write-up? I like the blonde and the one in the black. Very nice!Haha, thanks. I like to be thorough and entertaining.
As for the pics, I thought the upload would include the name of the files, which are the names of the girls. On a computer, if you mouse over the pics, it shows the name of the files / girls.
But they are: Maria (brown hair, my fav), Beatrice (black hair), and Sasha (blonde Russian, best value).
Salaam Lalabo, I walked away from a beautiful woman recently. Later she approached me again and begged for my number. Then she kept messaging me. I am as ugly as sin. No way would she have done that if I had bought her a fake rum. See, with women things often work the opposite of the way you would expect. Habibi Vagabunda knows the score.Thanks For sharing your wisdom. I will try and see if it works.
Vagabundo1
06-10-21, 23:22
What is the currency outlook?
Lots of talk here about it, driven by the BRL dropping to new multi month lows against USD.
Any links to high quality financial news press appreciated.
Read carefully because they try to confuse you!
Connections.
The next day, I ask her how much for her to come over. I won't post here because I know I'll get railed on by some of the pros about paying too much. It was more than I wanted to pay, but she's a legit 10 for me. If you really want to know the high price I paid, DM me. Someone you'd see out of a fashion magazine. I had to scratch the itch and had her come over to my hotel for 1 HR. Absolutely no issues getting her in, nobody in the lobby batted an eye, other than those admiring her beauty. Back in my room, this was the most GFE experience I've had so far. Lots of DFK, BBBJ until she gagged, and very responsive in DATY. Even while I'm fucking her, I just can't believe it. If this is what life is like in Brazil, except much cheaper once I become a veteran, I will definitely move down here! Anyways, after round 2, she said she needed to go watch a movie with her little brother, so she took off almost at the HR. I probably won't repeat due to the high price and clock watching. But I got absolutely no regrets. I got her IG, and turns out she did go watch a horror movie.
Plans
For today, my ISG bro Zapped me as he wants to go to Connections again. I'm down, but will go see Sasha first. I probably won't be writing any more reports for the time being, unless there's something new to add. These reports are fuckin exhausting. LOL.
I've included some pics, but I think both Beatrice and Sasha look much better in person.As usual very nice detailed report, SK. I am glad you are enjoying your trip. Who is Maria? Is that the connection girl you invited to your hotel?
About comments about paying too much. I did make a comment about the initial ask of 1 K, which surprised me based on known connection price range. I don't think I commented on what you ended paying because that is up to you and it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks about it. You sharing that info here is very useful because I will be prepared for 1 K ask next time I visit connection. I think all info, positive and negative, is useful. Please don't let comments hold you back from sharing info.
What is the currency outlook?
Lots of talk here about it, driven by the BRL dropping to new multi month lows against USD.
Any links to high quality financial news press appreciated.My suggestion is to read the recent report on trade by the US Treasury. Since Brazil is a major trade country, BRL is on graph of currencies which shows if the currency is undervalued or overvalued at present. BRL is going down as I recall.
Steve 9696
06-11-21, 03:38
Maria's the first girl, no clothes. She's originally in Scandallo, but makes her way to Connections at 9 pm along with other Scandallo girls.
Visited Abbobora again today. Lineup was decent and I found Bella to be the most attractive. Still not as beautiful as Sasha. So I asked for Sasha even though she wasn't in the lineup. Receptionist said she's available (guess she was just finishing up). I paid are $110 to the shop (before session), 150 to Sasha (after session). True to her word, she gave me plenty of DFK this time and session was a bit better than the last. She seemed to really enjoy DATY and CG. DFK was sensual with plenty of moist tongue action. She started on top for CG with a really nice, slow grinding action from her. Switched to K9, she felt so tight, I had to take it real slow. She has an amazing ass that feels great to grab onto as I'm pounding from the back. Switched to MISH for more DFK while I'm inside her and finished in closed MISH where she seemed to get another nut, too.
Exchange rate at the mall today's pretty good at 5. 04 per $1 to get ready for another visit to Connections with a couple ISG buds tonight. But I think I'll pay another visit to Prime before heading to Connections.Yeah Maria is a mega hottie. I support your point that the girls likely look better than pics. I find that truly beautiful girls always look better than their pics. I use Diva escorts a lot in London and of course all the pics are photoshopped. But damn if pretty much every girl I've had there (many!) doesn't look better in person. Pretty girls always do. You simply can't capture a smile that Slays in a pic.
SinfullyKorean
06-11-21, 04:25
Who is Maria? Is that the connection girl you invited to your hotel?It's my pleasure to give back to this community after receiving so much.
Yes. Maria is the one I invited to my hotel from connections. We had a good time. I think everyone should experience everything Sao Paulo has to offer. Including the overpriced sex at the club and bringing a hottie from connections / scandallo to the hotel. It seemed very overpriced. But now what I've scratched that itch, I won't do it again.
Tonight, I'm at connections again with a couple buddies from ISG. It's not nearly as good as it was Tues night. One girl (7), offered to go with me back to my hotel for 500 all night. Since I'd already popped twice today (Sasha and Alice), I didn't have a very strong desire unless it was going to be BBFS. She said no, so we parted ways. This was after a good amount of mutual groping and kissing. Except for the first night, none of the girls have asked me to buy them a drink. And there's been plenty of girls sticking their tongue down my throat. Usually not the hot ones. LOL. But still doable.
I am curious, though. How much do people normally pay to take the girls upstairs at the club?
I am curious, though. How much do people normally pay to take the girls upstairs at the club?I remember the old reports said it was 300 to 500.
Why didn't have session with Maria in the club or just take her back to your hotel? I can't believe you hold out until next day. Did she has sex with anyone at the club while you were there? I ask because I am wondering how popular she is
SinfullyKorean
06-11-21, 07:29
I remember the old reports said it was 300 to 500.
Why didn't have session with Maria in the club or just take her back to your hotel? I can't believe you hold out until next day. Did she has sex with anyone at the club while you were there? I ask because I am wondering how popular she is300-500 sounds about right. I think their prices start coming down as the night goes on. They'll quote the R1000 for anyone they think is new in Brazil / boates. I'm glad I RTFF and stuck with 500 on Monday (Beatrice). But after I left, I still felt that was too much. Because it's 500 plus 140 (room), and clinicas are such better value.
I don't think anyone sessioned with Maria that night. But she was with other guys the whole night until she finally came to talk to me. I didn't session with Maria that night because I'd already sessioned with Sasha that day. Maria did get me hard throughout the night as we were making out and groping. We talked until 5 AM. I got her 1 drink, a shot of tequila, and that got her completely drunk. LOL. Straight up couldn't talk straight, hiccups, getting emotional as she was talking. It was adorable. By the time I dropped her off at her place, it was already 5:30 AM. No way she could come over. I'm glad I waited until the next day to session with Maria. I was at full vigor, and she was completely freshened up.
Since I was already spent coming to the club tonight, the objective was to get names and numbers of cute garotas. But I didn't get a single number. Didn't want any of them. That's how bad it was. The price range I was getting tonight was about 300-500 for 1 HR. For this week, Tues was definitely the best.
Pushy Garotas
Towards the end of my night, I was sitting at the table in the restaurant because the club area is very loud. A garota I'd been eying came over. We talked for a bit. She asked if I would buy her a drink. She was one of the more attractive girls and I was bored, so I bought a Heineken for the both of us R40 each, and she kept me company for a good 45 min. She asks me to take her upstairs for R300. I thought it was a great deal, but with the price of the room and the fact that I'd already sessioned during the day, I told her thanks, but no thanks. After she left, a hideous garota comes and asks me to take her upstairs. I say no (I lie that I already sessioned that night). She says to at least buy her a drink. I tell her maybe next time. She says she doesn't want to wait until next time. I say no thank you and she leaves. This was the first time I found a girl to be REALLY pushy. None of the other girls were like this.
Food
Dona Firmina Pizzeria http://donafirminapizzaria.com.br/#section-menu - Pizza was excellent. I got a half and half. And they charged half and half of each pizza. LOL. The dough was cooked perfectly. The cheese was very good. I had a difficult time ordering because I didn't understand the menu. Used Google translate (live image translation) to translate the menu, but even that wasn't 100% accurate. The small (broto) was really big for one person. Plus two beers cost me R96.
Pro Tip on bringing Hotel Guests @ Bourbon Convention
There's another ISG bro staying in the same hotel (Bourbon Convention). A few weeks ago, he was charged are R100 at the front desk to check in the escort he ordered. When Maria came over to my room, I waited in the lobby. So when she texted that she arrived, I met her outside and we walked in together. Maybe people thought we were friends (she was in a cute pajama), but nobody bothered us. My ISG bro said that he was charged because when she arrived, he went down to fetch her, but she already came inside and the doormen told her to check in at the front desk.
So if you're bringing escorts into the hotel, I suggest you wait in the lobby, or at least ask them to wait outside. I thought bourbon didn't care about "guests", but evidently, that's not always the case.
Pro Tip 2: Boates
I suggest you session beforehand, so you aren't tempted to session at the boate. Even if you get a good deal for R300, you're still paying for the room and maybe a drink (unless you're a pro like Vagabond, Mr. E or The Cane). That'll be at least R500. Unless they're a 10, they're probably not worth it. Make it your goal to get numbers and meet outside for much cheaper. So far, value, looks, and pleasure wise, clinicas have the boates beat 90% of the time. You'll usually be able to find an amazing garota in Prime, Abbobora, or Tangara for half the price and better GFE.
Marina was the only one that looked hotter than any girl I'd met in a clinica and club, so I have no regrets on sessioning with her at my hotel. But lesson learned, and I probably won't do it again at the same price. Probably. LOL.
disclaimer
I say "pro tip", but I by no means suggest that I'm a pro. LOL.
Vagabundo1
06-11-21, 11:08
Do you have a link? Or can you post a PDF here?
It is obviously covid related. Now US is 50% or more vaccinated and as was obvious rich world is sending vax to Brazil et al. Are we at a tipping point back below USD BRL 5?
I hope not. This place is Valhalla on sale at these rates.
My suggestion is to read the recent report on trade by the US Treasury.
Steve 9696
06-11-21, 12:44
First of all SK thanks for the amazing reports. Soooooo jealous. Currently locked in Pussy Prison USA but making the best of it with Seeking Arrangement. Missing Brasil terribly.
I must say I don't understand how some guys do it leave without taking a girl! I really can't go home empty handed and jerk off except maybe if I was foolish enough to go to a US strip club. In Brasil there is no way I am leaving Connections without rooming with a girl. All that drinking and dancing and DFK? I got to close the deal. No question.
I suppose some relates to ones $ pain threshold. Since I'm going to have to drop USD$600+ a night in the US (dinner, girl, hotel), there's no way I'm not taking one or two garotas at a Boate. It's heaven on earth and a relative bargain.
Totally awesome job on your trip and report outs. We thank (and envy) you!
Member #4698
06-11-21, 13:05
Pro Tip 2: Boates
I suggest you session beforehand, so you aren't tempted to session at the boate. Even if you get a good deal for R300, you're still paying for the room and maybe a drink (unless you're a pro like Vagabond, Mr. E or The Cane). That'll be at least R500. Unless they're a 10, they're probably not worth it. Make it your goal to get numbers and meet outside for much cheaper. So far, value, looks, and pleasure wise, clinicas have the boates beat 90% of the time. You'll usually be able to find an amazing garota in Prime, Abbobora, or Tangara for half the price and better GFE.
Marina was the only one that looked hotter than any girl I'd met in a clinica and club, so I have no regrets on sessioning with her at my hotel. But lesson learned, and I probably won't do it again at the same price. Probably. LOL.
disclaimer
I say "pro tip", but I by no means suggest that I'm a pro. LOL.SK, up to now I have been enjoying your reports. I knew you would like the Clinicas. Furthermore, Boate Marina is a top quality looker. You hit the jackpot with her if she is as good in bed as she looks.
But I have two issues with you related to spending and trying to please the peanut gallery:
1. Clinicas are great, but they are daytime. Boates are nighttime. I only wish the Boates had been open when I was in town so I could have enjoyed 2 or 3 girls per day. The issue is giving a shite what a few "pros" are willing to pay. Who cares? The idea that I would go to a Boate or Terma, make out with a hot girl for 30 minutes, and not take her upstairs because of the house fee or what some ISG'er says he does is beyond my comprehension. I am an independent agent. I do it anyway I want because it is my time and my money. I am just saying 2 months from now the few 100 br's you saved by not going upstairs will not mean a god damn thing, but not maximizing all your limited time in Brazil will. But to each his own. Do what truly makes you happy.
2. I also don't know why you are hesitant to mention what you paid Marina for takeout. To hell with the peanut gallery. I know you would tell me in a PM, but that is not the issue. So what if you gave her 700 br or 1000 br. (Hopefully you did not give her more than a 1000.) LOL. But it is your money and she is a hottie. The only thing that is important is if you had a good time and all I am saying is don't be intimidated by the house critics! They have their own reasons for what they say and do. The only 2 people that matter are you (#1) and the girl (#2).
So, when I return to SP I plan to do it all: Clincas, Boates and MClass and I don't give a damn what anybody else is doing. If I want to drop a couple thousand BR in a Boate, drink all night, and do a couple of girls in-house I will. And if I want to see the girls later at my place I will. It's nobody's business, but my own.
A short story: there is always another punter willing to spend more than you. So I really liked this MClass escort girl that I met in SP, a former Revista Sexy Centerfold. I texted her 5 days after our 1st session to set up a 2nd time. She texted back that she was in Cancun. Some guy had taken her there for the week. I can only imagine what that set him back, but it had to be in the thousands of US dollars. Did he overpay? Do you think he gives a shit? NO! He was having a great time with this hot and I do mean hot chic. So, long story short, Ms. Sexy Centerfold tells me she will be back in SP on May 1. I say, oh, that's too bad because I will be in RJ by then. She says, "I like RJ. I can come to see you for a day or two if you want." Ha Ha. And I said that would be great because it would have been. On May 3 she texts me that she is back in SP and she can come be in RJ tomorrow at my hotel by noon. I am tempted, but it is my final days in Brazil, I am having a good time in the Termas, and I want to say goodbye to my 2 favorite Barra VIP girls so I don't really have the time for her. She accepts the excuse I gave her and says she looks forward to seeing me in SP in October. We never got around to money for her trip to RJ, but who cares? Not me. If I had had the time, I would have flown her in and we would have had a great time.
IMHO. This is what punting is all about. Having a great time with sexy girls, not figuring out how little you can get way with spending or pleasing the critics. Do whatever you like and whatever you can afford. Nothing else matters.
SK, up to now I have been enjoying your reports. I knew you would like the Clinicas. Furthermore, Boate Marina is a top quality looker. You hit the jackpot with her if she is as good in bed as she looks. But I have two issues with you related to spending and trying to please the peanut gallery:
1. Clinicas are great, but they are daytime. Boates are nighttime. I only wish the Boates had been open when I was in town so I could have enjoyed 2 or 3 girls per day. The issue is giving a shite what a few "pros" are willing to pay. Who cares? The idea that I would go to a Boate or Terma, make out with a hot girl for 30 minutes, and not take her upstairs because of the house fee or what some ISG'er says he does is beyond my comprehension. I am an independent agent. I do it anyway I want because it is my time and my money. I am just saying 2 months from now the few 100 br's you saved by not going upstairs will not mean a god damn thing, but not maximizing all your limited time in Brazil will. But to each his own. Do what truly makes you happy. The only 2 people that matter are you (#1) and the girl (#2). So, when I return to SP I plan to do it all: Clincas, Boates and MClass and I don't give a damn what anybody else is doing. If I want to drop a couple thousand BR in a Boate, drink all night, and do a couple of girls in-house I will. And if I want to see the girls later at my place I will. It's nobody's business, but my own. IMHO. This is what punting is all about. Having a great time with sexy girls, not figuring out how little you can get way with spending or pleasing the critics. Do whatever you like and whatever you can afford. Nothing else matters.Hallelujah! I could not have put it better myself. At the end of the day, this is exactly how I feel about it, and I'm not going to change. I know that SK mentioned me, Vagabundo, and Mr. E all in the same group. I took that as showing respect for some guys who have a lot of experience, and that's cool. But, all three of us are clearly not the same in our wants, needs, strategies, and tactics. That's why I say listen and learn from everybody. And then you go out and do and be you based on what you've learned and what works for you. And don't give a damn what anybody else says. You paid for that tute with your money, not theirs! So do and be you. Somebody doesn't like what I pay and think I paid too much and I'm ruining it for them? Well you know what? Then just fuck less then LOLOLOL! It's my money, and I'll spend it (or not) how I darn well please!
My suggestion is to read the recent report on trade by the US Treasury. Since Brazil is a major trade country, BRL is on graph of currencies which shows if the currency is undervalued or overvalued at present. BRL is going down as I recall.It's very hard to predict currencies. You might see evidence that things on the ground are too expensive in Dollars or Euros (or conversely too cheap), but markets can stay irrational for a long time. Take financial prognosticators with a grain of salt. They are either on the infotainment side of the spectrum. Or they are employed by financial firms to give their clients the allusion of confidence.
Anyway, the Dollar is at a cyclical low around the globe. This condition will probably persist while Biden is launching spending programs. Incidentally, USA Spending is usually needed to pull the globe out of a recession.
What will happen in Brazil matters, but vaccines getting to the country will inspire some confidence in the Real. I'm not sure the Bolsonaro government can and will go on a spending spree. Massive Brazilian spending would weaken the currency.
I am curious, though. How much do people normally pay to take the girls upstairs at the club?300-500 is the range based on what others gave shared here. I paid 500 for the only girl I went with at connection. I personally don't negotiate too much as long as the ask is reasonable. I usually go for the prettiest ones and lowballing them might result in mediocre service in the room. I am willing to pay more than the club's price range if the girl is really gorgeous and worth the price. Wouldn't we all love if a 5 and 10 charge the same low price? It doesn't make any sense to expect a gorgeous girl short sell herself at bottom of the price range among club full of average looking girls.
Steve 9696
06-12-21, 01:15
300-500 is the range based on what others gave shared here. I paid 500 for the only girl I went with at connection. I personally don't negotiate too much as long as the ask is reasonable. I usually go for the prettiest ones and lowballing them might result in mediocre service in the room. I am willing to pay more than the club's price range if the girl is really gorgeous and worth the price. Wouldn't we all love if a 5 and 10 charge the same low price? It doesn't make any sense to expect a gorgeous girl short sell herself at bottom of the price range among club full of average looking girls.I don't think your taking a top Scandallo girl upstairs for 300. Maybe 500 at the end of the night (4 AM - done that). But a prime girl during prime hours I've def paid 700. A bit less at Bomboa. 300 should do it at Casarao tho I paid 400 for a top girl.
This was pre Covid but don't think that has changed much other than the USD cost is 25% less. Do it while u can! 750R is $150! Is there really any difference between $100 and $150 for u? Cuz to me those numbers are identical. My god its a bargain.
I don't think your taking a top Scandallo girl upstairs for 300. Maybe 500 at the end of the night (4 AM - done that). But a prime girl during prime hours I've def paid 700. A bit less at Bomboa. 300 should do it at Casarao tho I paid 400 for a top girl.
This was pre Covid but don't think that has changed much other than the USD cost is 25% less. Do it while u can! 750R is $150! Is there really any difference between $100 and $150 for u? Cuz to me those numbers are identical. My god its a bargain.For the top girls at the higher end boates, I have typically paid 500 to 600 reals for a session (plus room). This pretty much always includes a BBBJ, and very often includes anal sex (I actively seek out attractive anal providers without shame). Sometimes it includes CIM and sometimes not. You have to ask the girl if she does that (as with anal). If not, almost all of the girls will allow you to cum on / in various other parts of their bodies (tits, butt crack, face, etc.). To maintain budget control, as others have recommended, I suggest mongering in the much more cost-effective clinicas in the daytime. That way, you've already scored a nut or two before you step inside someplace line a Scandallo, the "baddest puta palace on the planet", and lose your mind (and all your money too)!
I don't think your taking a top Scandallo girl upstairs for 300. Maybe 500 at the end of the night (4 AM - done that).Steve, that is the price for Connection, not Scandallo.
I don't think your taking a top Scandallo girl upstairs for 300. Maybe 500 at the end of the night (4 AM - done that). But a prime girl during prime hours I've def paid 700. A bit less at Bomboa. 300 should do it at Casarao tho I paid 400 for a top girl.
This was pre Covid but don't think that has changed much other than the USD cost is 25% less. Do it while u can! 750R is $150! Is there really any difference between $100 and $150 for u? Cuz to me those numbers are identical. My god its a bargain.I replied to SK's question which I thought was connection related. I didn't mean it be a standard price range for all the clubs. As you said, the time of the night does influence prices in addition to other factors like club, girl's beauty etc. I don't stay in a club till the wee hours just to save a couple of hundred rials. I rather wind things down early, get a good night sleep and get ready for the next day.
300-500 sounds about right. I think their prices start coming down as the night goes on. They'll quote the R1000 for anyone they think is new in Brazil / boates.I am going to play dumb based on your lesson. Instead of asking the girl what she charges, I will offer a price in the 300-500 range and see what happens.
Do you have a link? Or can you post a PDF here?
It is obviously covid related. Now US is 50% or more vaccinated and as was obvious rich world is sending vax to Brazil et al. Are we at a tipping point back below USD BRL 5?
I hope not. This place is Valhalla on sale at these rates.https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/206/April_2021_FX_Report_FINAL.pdf
Steve 9696
06-12-21, 03:31
Knowing that Scandallo in SP is my fave destination. Anyone have any comparison to Scandalo in Malaga? Or other European venues? I think Europe will be my first post Covid stop. And of course Frankfurt Sharks and Zurich Globe are obvious choices. But wondering if any ofbubhave other suggestions. Knowing that Scandallo SP is my worldwide fave venue.
Vagabundo1
06-12-21, 04:02
So do you think it keeps going under 5?
I hope not.
Come on, I am pulling for more hate, chaos, and a weak brazilian real so I can keep exploiting the natural resources here.
/ s / Vasco the Gama, Vagabundo in Chief.
https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/206/April_2021_FX_Report_FINAL.pdf
HarvestBoi
06-12-21, 04:53
Steve— if Zurich is on the list check out Club Aphrodesia. I was there just Pre covid and preferred it to Globe that trip. Tiny space compared to Scandallo but there's no cover and drinks are free. So you can go in, look around and leave if you don't see someone who appeals. I got with a hard body half Angolan / half Portuguese who was the highlight of the trip. Did her twice. Hotel One is literally right across the street, clean (isn't everything is Suisse) and a reasonable price. It's spendy for a session but then I know that don't scare you. The web site gives a pretty good idea of the talent on offer. Fewer girls due to the size but near Scandallo quality. Grace, the girl I was with, says she has clients who spend 10 k CF a night for a big party. YMMV after covid of course but it should be on the list for any top flight monger destination. I thought Globe had slipped a bit from my previous visit (2 years before) both in facilities and girls. And the rooms have always been awful. But it's big and has ample women.
Knowing that Scandallo in SP is my fave destination. Anyone have any comparison to Scandalo in Malaga? Or other European venues? I think Europe will be my first post Covid stop. And of course Frankfurt Sharks and Zurich Globe are obvious choices. But wondering if any ofbubhave other suggestions. Knowing that Scandallo SP is my worldwide fave venue..
A short story: there is always another punter willing to spend more than you. So I really liked this MClass escort girl that I met in SP, a former Revista Sexy Centerfold. I texted her 5 days after our 1st session to set up a 2nd time. She texted back that she was in Cancun. Some guy had taken her there for the week. I can only imagine what that set him back, but it had to be in the thousands of US dollars. Did he overpay? Do you think he gives a shit? NO! He was having a great time with this hot and I do mean hot chic. So, long story short, Ms. Sexy Centerfold tells me she will be back in SP on May 1. I say, oh, that's too bad because I will be in RJ by then. She says, "I like RJ. I can come to see you for a day or two if you want." Ha Ha. And I said that would be great because it would have been. On May 3 she texts me that she is back in SP and she can come be in RJ tomorrow at my hotel by noon. I am tempted, but it is my final days in Brazil, I am having a good time in the Termas, and I want to say goodbye to my 2 favorite Barra VIP girls so I don't really have the time for her. She accepts the excuse I gave her and says she looks forward to seeing me in SP in October. We never got around to money for her trip to RJ, but who cares? Not me. If I had had the time, I would have flown her in and we would have had a great time.
IMHO. This is what punting is all about. Having a great time with sexy girls, not figuring out how little you can get way with spending or pleasing the critics. Do whatever you like and whatever you can afford. Nothing else matters.Some girls will go on trips for free just because its a free vacation for them. I've been to Europe a few times and the girls did not mention prices just happy with what I gave them at the end of the trip or what they bought on the trip.
A few I took to beaches in BR and some got mad at the amount I gave at the end but we never talked about price and did not matter because I don't need to see them again. But pretty much every time I got BBFS. So next time a girl talks to you about her dream vacation take her!
The Critic
06-12-21, 09:11
disclaimerI say "pro tip", but I by no means suggest that I'm a pro. LOL.
SK, up to now I have been enjoying your reports.
IMHO. This is what punting is all about. Having a great time with sexy girls, not figuring out how little you can get way with spending or pleasing the critics. Do whatever you like and whatever you can afford. Nothing else matters.
Somebody doesn't like what I pay and think I paid too much and I'm ruining it for them? Well you know what? Then just fuck less then LOLOLOL! It's my money, and I'll spend it (or not) how I darn well please!I concur with the sentiments mentioned. You earned your money, you spend your money how you please. Life is too short. Do what and how you like and enjoy yourself.
The Critic
06-12-21, 09:23
Food
Dona Firmina Pizzeria http://donafirminapizzaria.com.br/#section-menu - Pizza was excellent. I got a half and half. And they charged half and half of each pizza. LOL. The dough was cooked perfectly. The cheese was very good. I had a difficult time ordering because I didn't understand the menu. Used Google translate (live image translation) to translate the menu, but even that wasn't 100% accurate. The small (broto) was really big for one person. Plus two beers cost me R96.I for one appreciate when a member(s) posts Food & Restaurant recommendations. Good food makes for good mongering! Please continue with your good reports.
Knowing that Scandallo in SP is my fave destination. Anyone have any comparison to Scandalo in Malaga? Or other European venues? I think Europe will be my first post Covid stop. And of course Frankfurt Sharks and Zurich Globe are obvious choices. But wondering if any ofbubhave other suggestions. Knowing that Scandallo SP is my worldwide fave venue.Spain has been one of my favorite destinations in Europe for a long time, and not just for the mongering either. But plentiful mongering options it does have! Following is a link to the reports I did for my last trip, which included some time along the Costa del Sol (includes Malaga). The two best clubs I found along the CDS were Scandalo (yes with one "s") and Estark 92 (link includes a CDS-focused report covering both clubs). There's no such thing as a Scandallo Sao Paulo "equivalent". Or if there is, I haven't found it yet. I would say the closest I have personally experienced is Globe Zurich (which really is not an apples to apples comparison). But of course, there are many other options out there around the world offering a good time for the adventurous monger. If you're serious about Malaga and the CDS, then you should be reading and asking questions in the appropriate Spanish threads. This will give you a head start: 2170210.
I concur with the sentiments mentioned. You earned your money, you spend your money how you please. Life is too short. Do what and how you like and enjoy yourself.I must confess that when I feel that I've spent too much I tend to be a little worried, however, I'm totally envious of you guys who spend what you want and let others do the worrying for you, LOL.
I must confess that when I feel that I've spent too much I tend to be a little worried, however, I'm totally envious of you guys who spend what you want and let others do the worrying for you, LOL.If I'm worried that I spent too much that's one thing. But if somebody else is worried that I spent too much, well that's quite another LOL! We all have spending limits and budgets we need to keep in mind. It's just that once I've set mine according to my own personal requirements, I don't care what somebody else thinks about that. From the very first moment that I took on this hobby, I have 100% lived by the following. Make sure your bills are paid and your investments made before you get laid!
Vagabundo1
06-12-21, 15:32
The point is not that spending any particular amount is wrong, but that it does not always equate to good sex or better sex.
See the bubba boy report, search for good sex, search for mini relationships.
How many of those girls in pictures from tier 1 termas have you taken to Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail, Petropolis? How many stay the night for as many nights as you want.
I concur with the sentiments mentioned. You earned your money, you spend your money how you please. Life is too short. Do what and how you like and enjoy yourself.
The two best clubs I found along the CDS were Scandalo (yes with one "s").I meant one "l" for Malaga's "Scandalo" versus two for Sampa's "Scandallo".
How many of those girls in pictures from tier 1 termas have you taken to Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail, Petropolis? How many stay the night for as many nights as you want.There was a blonde hottie at Termas 65 who was interested in going to Buzios with me, and she was the one who brought it up. That's not the way I like to play the game, at least not in the past anway, so I really didn't have any interest. The answer to your question from me would be zero, but that's OK. Not what I wanted to do anyway, but maybe some other time. We shall see!
SinfullyKorean
06-12-21, 17:21
Was very lackluster. Upon advice of a fellow ISG, went to check out Tangara. Waited an HR, but found nothing good.
Food
Coffee at "The Coffee" every day. Dinner at Komei https://www.komeirestaurante.com/menus. Japanese curry (Kare) and katsu with dumplings with a kirin beer. Total was about R70. It was ok. Good.
Laundry
The morning was spent doing laundry at "Lavanderia 60 Minutos", just a few blocks away from the hotel. R30 for wash (R15) and dry (R15) with detergent and softener automatically dispensed. But the bad thing about this place is that you need a CPF number to register for their website in order to access their WiFi. There was a guy cleaning the place, so I asked for his help, but he couldn't do anything about it. There was another guy waiting for his laundry. He saw that I couldn't get access and was gracious enough to share his wifi account. I swear, I love Brazilians! Everywhere I go, people offer to help me unsolicited. He even gave me his account in case I visited the lavanderia again.
Clinicas
Today was just shit luck. Went to Tangara and wasted too much time there. Then spent too much time wandering around in and eating in Liberdade. It was nice to just look around. But I don't think there are touristy destinations in the Sao Paulo main city area.
By the time I got to Prime, it was already 6 PM and I think most of the girls left. I asked for Alicee, receptionist lady told me to wait in the room. After 30 minutes, nobody came up. I thought she was finishing up with a customer and coming in. I got dressed again and went down. She misunderstood me, thought I said Lisa, not Alicee. So no sex today.
I was thinking about going to Connections with another ISGer. He went, but I was a bit disillusioned from the last visit with what I thought was a bad selection. It wasn't just that the girls weren't very attractive. Their personalities weren't great. Maybe due to our communication barrier. But it would be super obvious they're just trying to get me upstairs. Not much song and dance. They'd sit, ask if I want to go upstairs. Sometimes, make out, too. For the most part, I didn't find it appealing because I could do much prettier girls in the clinicas for much less.
By the time my ISG buddy texted me, it was already 12 AM and I needed to check out the next day, so I called it a night. Glad I did because the hotel wouldn't offer late checkout. Looks like they're almost completely booked. Glad to see they're doing well.
Responses
Thanks for the responses about my concerns RE: the prices I paid. Part of my reservation about listing the prices I paid for top tier Connections girl (Maria) was due to prior experience in the Vietnam forum where people get upset over how much I paid. Something along the lines of "Why ask for help and info if you're going to go and pay the inflated prices?" It sounds like this forum is a little less toxic. I have no regrets on paying Maria what I did. I would probably do it again. I felt a little bit of magic that I haven't experienced in a while. As you suspected, Natty, it was 700 =) and worth every real.
One goal of visiting Brazil is (other than getting laid) is to see how sustainable hobbying is here. I plan on retiring within a year. So keeping to a certain budget was important to me. And it has been paradise, to be able to do a different, beautiful girl almost every day for about 300 US a week. I could definitely imagine spending a good amount of the year here (probably during their winters).
SinfullyKorean
06-12-21, 17:23
I requested one of my posts to be deleted. Can an admin please help me?
Steve 9696
06-12-21, 17:38
Was very lackluster. Upon advice of a fellow ISG, went to check out Tangara. Waited an HR, but found nothing good.
Food
Coffee at "The Coffee" every day. Dinner at Komei https://www.komeirestaurante.com/menus. Japanese curry (Kare) and katsu with dumplings with a kirin beer. Total was about R70. It was ok. Good.
Laundry
The morning was spent doing laundry at "Lavanderia 60 Minutos", just a few blocks away from the hotel. R30 for wash (R15) and dry (R15) with detergent and softener automatically dispensed. But the bad thing about this place is that you need a CPF number to register for their website in order to access their WiFi. There was a guy cleaning the place, so I asked for his help, but he couldn't do anything about it. There was another guy waiting for his laundry. He saw that I couldn't get access and was gracious enough to share his wifi account. I swear, I love Brazilians! Everywhere I go, people offer to help me unsolicited. He even gave me his account in case I visited the lavanderia again.
Clinicas
Today was just shit luck. Went to Tangara and wasted too much time there. Then spent too much time wandering around in and eating in Liberdade. It was nice to just look around. But I don't think there are touristy destinations in the Sao Paulo main city area.
By the time I got to Prime, it was already 6 PM and I think most of the girls left. I asked for Alicee, receptionist lady told me to wait in the room. After 30 minutes, nobody came up. I thought she was finishing up with a customer and coming in. I got dressed again and went down. She misunderstood me, thought I said Lisa, not Alicee. So no sex today.
I was thinking about going to Connections with another ISGer. He went, but I was a bit disillusioned from the last visit with what I thought was a bad selection. It wasn't just that the girls weren't very attractive. Their personalities weren't great. Maybe due to our communication barrier. But it would be super obvious they're just trying to get me upstairs. Not much song and dance. They'd sit, ask if I want to go upstairs. Sometimes, make out, too. For the most part, I didn't find it appealing because I could do much prettier girls in the clinicas for much less.
By the time my ISG buddy texted me, it was already 12 AM and I needed to check out the next day, so I called it a night. Glad I did because the hotel wouldn't offer late checkout. Looks like they're almost completely booked. Glad to see they're doing well.
Responses
Thanks for the responses about my concerns RE: the prices I paid. Part of my reservation about listing the prices I paid for top tier Connections girl (Maria) was due to prior experience in the Vietnam forum where people get upset over how much I paid. Something along the lines of "Why ask for help and info if you're going to go and pay the inflated prices?" It sounds like this forum is a little less toxic. I have no regrets on paying Maria what I did. I would probably do it again. I felt a little bit of magic that I haven't experienced in a while. As you suspected, Natty, it was 700 =) and worth every real.
One goal of visiting Brazil is (other than getting laid) is to see how sustainable hobbying is here. I plan on retiring within a year. So keeping to a certain budget was important to me. And it has been paradise, to be able to do a different, beautiful girl almost every day for about 300 US a week. I could definitely imagine spending a good amount of the year here (probably during their winters).Damn no shame at all to do takeout w a hottie like Maria at 700. That's actually a pretty fair price. Stop sweating the pennies — you going to kick urself when you get back stateside (or wherever) and you didn't spend every waking minute drinking and dancing and DFKing and fucking. Rock on sir!
Steve 9696
06-12-21, 17:46
Spain has been one of my favorite destinations in Europe for a long time, and not just for the mongering either. But plentiful mongering options it does have! Following is a link to the reports I did for my last trip, which included some time along the Costa del Sol (includes Malaga). The two best clubs I found along the CDS were Scandalo (yes with one "s") and Estark 92 (link includes a CDS-focused report covering both clubs). There's no such thing as a Scandallo Sao Paulo "equivalent". Or if there is, I haven't found it yet. I would say the closest I have personally experienced is Globe Zurich (which really is not an apples to apples comparison). But of course, there are many other options out there around the world offering a good time for the adventurous monger. If you're serious about Malaga and the CDS, then you should be reading and asking questions in the appropriate Spanish threads. This will give you a head start: 2170210.Yes already talking to PAyforit, the resident expert, in the CDS thread. Just wanted some other perspective from the rest of this learned crew. I both love and hate Globe. I love it for slim girls with guaranteed amazing service (Kate, Tina, Simina I'm looking st you!) but I feel like you absolutely have to chase the girls and "qualify" to be done as they are so busy. Not really complaining don't enjoy being hounded by 5/6's at Sharks on the other end.
HarvestBoi I agree Aphrodisia is a once in a lifetime experience and I LOVED it. But with two samples I found the service a bit lackluster on the BBBJ for $280/ half or $380/45 which is just heartstopping for fully legal pussy. Still glad I did it.
Germany just opened to US so if FKKs open that might be my first stop. Thanks again. That link is sure a treasure trove and u know I love this shit!
EverythingBlue
06-12-21, 20:06
Spain has been one of my favorite destinations in Europe for a long time, and not just for the mongering either. But plentiful mongering options it does have! Following is a link to the reports I did for my last trip, which included some time along the Costa del Sol (includes Malaga). The two best clubs I found along the CDS were Scandalo (yes with one "s") and Estark 92 (link includes a CDS-focused report covering both clubs). There's no such thing as a Scandallo Sao Paulo "equivalent". Or if there is, I haven't found it yet. I would say the closest I have personally experienced is Globe Zurich (which really is not an apples to apples comparison). But of course, there are many other options out there around the world offering a good time for the adventurous monger. If you're serious about Malaga and the CDS, then you should be reading and asking questions in the appropriate Spanish threads. This will give you a head start: 2170210.Just want to say thanks for the link. I'm in the process of deciding if I should go to Brazil or Spain for my first mongering / tourist trip. I'm a complete newbie, and have been reading the Rio & Sao Paulo Reports a lot lately. I speak no Portuguese, but fluent in Spanish, and I plan on going solo. All the info I've found here has been very helpful. The reports by SK have been great to read as well. I've seen a Bubba Boy report mentioned a lot, but I noticed its dated from 2012 so I'm guessing it might be outdated, but still worth a read? Anyhow, I'll continue RTFF. But if anyone wants to throw me a bone I'll appreciate any and all feedback!
The point is not that spending any particular amount is wrong, but that it does not always equate to good sex or better sex.I would tend to agree with that take, but ultimately it will always be a very "subjective" and depends on your predilection to your individual preferences, and what you consider "better sex". For some it's anal, for others it's BBFS, for some PSE, yet others prefer "safe" covered sex with the most "attractive" GDP, they can find...etc
However, when an agreed up price has been established and the mood takes me, I've often found a further "incentivized" GDP Brasileira, will typically produce better sex.
... those who pay for sex and say goodbye at the end of an hour. And those that love having a paid girlfriend. I am the latter. I want the dinners. I want the dancing and sleep overs. But I'm not fool enough to think a 23 year old 9 is hanging with me because my fifty-something-ness is flat out awesome. I pay for the illusion and I enjoy it. Mr. V, Steve talked about enjoying and wanting the paid illusion of dating a pro (short-term) as if she were a girlfriend. I suspect, due to the fact, GFE sex (with whom you have a connection), is ultimately the best sex for him (and perhaps for modicum of us).
How many of those girls in pictures from tier 1 termas have you taken to Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail, Petropolis? How many stay the night for as many nights as you want.From the questions you pose, it sounds like you've taken similar dates with Pros? If so, isn't this then the very same thing as Steve's dating his Brazilian PROs/semi-Pro's in London (albeit on a different scale)?
Now let me qualify this, as you did say (in the Rio thread):
The point of this missive is that Mr. E was spot on right, stop trying to find a meaningful relationship with hookers. Or ex hookers.Now, once again, I think, "meaningful" is one of those things that is very subjective and scalable.
So, on the one hand, the dating and/or a short-term relationship with a Pro/Semi-Pro, has to be "meaningful", on some minor level or else why bother to take them anywhere, let alone Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail or Petropolis. And on the other end of the scale, there is traditional usage of "meaningful", as in the pursuit of a LTR, significant other, marriage and / or kids. As I'm sure, there is a whole lot of "meaningful", somewhere in between too.
Just saying, something to think about either way, when applying "meaningful" with dating/relationships.
Steve 9696
06-13-21, 00:59
I would tend to agree with that take, but ultimat
Mr. V, Steve talked about enjoying and wanting the paid illusion of dating a pro (short-term) as if she were a girlfriend. I suspect, due to the fact, GFE sex (with whom you have a connection), is ultimately the best sex for him (and perhaps for modicum of us).
From the questions you pose, it sounds like you've taken sim dates with Pros? If so, isn't this then the very same thing as Steve's dating his Brazilian PROs/semi-Pro's in London...Def the GFE sex is great and the connection helps. But for me it's more than that. I LOVE the non-bedroom time with a 23 year old girl experiencing new things. For Thifany, her first international trip, eating seafood tapas at a high end restaurant on her birthday. (her passport doesn't lie). Dancing till 3 AM with the hottest girl in the club.
Or Alexa. Pedicab ride by the ocean at night drinking wine from the bottle and smoking cigars. Or her first time ever swimming in the ocean. (!) She'd get knocked down by breakers and come up laughing her ass off.
Seriously, am I the only guy that likes hanging with 23 year old hotties 24x7? Cuz damn I do adore it!
(Thifany was a lucky Boate find (Fazendinha, in Campinas but shes from Rio) but mostly Seeking Arrangement rules for this kinda thing).
I spent Thursday through Saturday running through clinicas, boated and sugar babies including one laying next to me right now.
I'm staying at Mercure New York Time Square. It's walking distance to the clinicas and there are tons of local restaurants around. Paid $77 for 3 nights for modest king size bed room with everything in working order. I had no problem bring girls up which I usually brought up during the night. Didn't have to registered them and walked straight up to the hotel room. I will start off work the clinicas.
CLínica Prime.
I went around 2:30 pm on Thursday. Only one other guy there. About 9 girls presented. Mostly all thin brancas who look very girl next door. Nothing stood out to me (disclaimer: I like curves and none were found here). Didn't inquire about prices. Never returned. Didn't inquire about prices. Age range seem like early 20's to early 30's.
CLínica Carina.
Walked over from Prime, sat down and was handed a tablets with about 9 girls to chose from. The pictures looked very nice and heavily photoshopped. All the girls looked hot but without seeing them in person, I passed. Didn't inquire about prices and never returned.
Age range seem like early 20's to early 30's.
CLínica Abbobora.
Walked over from Carinas, it was raining a little bit by this time. About 14-15 girls presented with a mix of Morenas and brancas from decent to very fuckable. Nothing super hot to me but definitely I could see the appeal of this place above others. There were two many names for me to remember but I would say this one had among the best looking CLínica girls but don't get your hopes up to high if you like curves. Age range seem like early 20's to early 30's. Didn't inquire about prices and never returned.
CLínica Brooklyn.
I went here on Friday around 3 pm. I usually am about to find something I like here but didn't that day. There were about 10 forks there from average to good looking. Nothing special. A mix of brancas, Morenas and one chocolate. Lacking the curves I seek. Age range from early 20's to one that look like she was in her late 40's. When she walked out I was surprise. Definitely wasn't as a talented line up as the past but had the most guys waiting around. Another interesting thing is they made everyone put on shoe covers for some unexplained reason. I didn't inquire about recent prices and didn't return.
CLínica Kin.
Down the street from Brooklin and down an alley, I went and was presented with a mediocre line up of about 7 girls. There was one decent talk Branca with black hair and a shorter Branca with black hair. Age range seem mid 20-30's. Nothing that peaked my interest. Didn't inquire about prices.
CLínica Tangará.
Went around 4 pm on Friday. About 20 plus girls with about 6 guys waiting around. This place had the most variety of looks, skin colors, body shapes and probably the youngest looking girls. Three of them looked uncomfortably young. Been here multiple times and ever since ABG is no longer around the talent has went down to me. Didn't inquire about current prices.
CLínica Miruna.
Went here two days in a row but only sessioned once. About 8-9 girls each day. Similar quality to Abbobora in my opinion. Age range from 20-30. Brancas and morenas with some curves. I went with 26 year old Paulista Raquel. Tall, beauty brown skin, Spanish Portuguese mix. She has one of the nicest natural bodies I seen with perfect but breasts, flat stomach and curvy hips. To me she could work in all the high end Boates against what I seen (more on them later). The sex was great. Tight, wet and seemed into and did anal for 100 reais. Came twice, exchanged numbers and sheet had been writing me ever since wanting to stay over. Paid 260 with card for one hour.
Scandallo.
I never visited Scandallo on the multiple times I've been to SP so I decided to give it a shot. I believe one of the members said it was open from 5 pm to 9 pm but one of the girls said it's open from noon to 9 pm. She also told me if you fuck in house you can stay past 9 pm. I paid 300 to get in and half was used on a steak dinner and a guarana. Seemed a slight bit more girls to guys. I would guess 50 plus girls in the place and it pretty much had everything for everyone's taste. A lot of surgery up in here different from the clinicas but alot of food looking women. When Casarão was open, it has equivalent or hitter talent at the time. Girls were very aggressive soon as I walked in got approached and proposition many times All starting with 1000-1100 for an hour but all went down to 500. Got a few numbers, ate my food and went back to the tellie and met up with a sugar baby for the night.
Connections.
Arrived there at 1:30 am, place was pretty packed. 100 reais entry. About 40-50 girls. Some of the same girls from Scandallo were there. Again reminded me of Casarão. I had two sessions here one a 3 some and the other with just one girl. The 3 some was with two pretty Italian looking big butt cariocas who proposition me on the 3 some. Usually I don't like but they said I could go back in forth with the same condom. They started with 600 reais each but talked down to 400. Of we went and it was a really good session. One was into way than the other but they did well enough to please me besides the covered BJ which I didn't negotiate beforehand but the one into insisted I tested her oral skills. Paid $140 for the room. Note: if you pay with a card they charge 10 percent for the session but not the room which you pay after you finish.
The second session was with 27 year old morena with blonde hair from Porto Alegre. I told her you look different than any other person I met from there. She had surgery on her face and body, bolt ONS and ass. We agreed on 300 with anal included. It was a really good session. Her pussy was surprisingly tight, tighter than her ass. Two nuts and she wanted to keep fucking. She told me she lives in the same hotel I'm staying at and offered to drive me home and wanted me to stay with her and go to breakfast or lunch. She showed me she was an influencer with like 50 k followers and doesn't work there much. I never ended up contacting her. Just too busy with other girls. I stayed at connections until the closed around 5 am.
Seeking arrangement.
I decided to try SA website to see what I could find and if I could get girls to bareback. There wasn't alot of curvy talent in SP on the site but I was able to make agreements with like 5 girls who was willing to do bareback and anal. The price for all night ranger from 300-500 reais. I only sessioned with two of the girls because one flaked, one didn't look like her pictures and one try to change the agreement for more money. The two girls were nothing to write home about but one has nice breast and the other has a medium big ass. The sessions were good but I probably wouldn't look for girls on the site in Sao Paulo. There are just way better looking options out there.
Definitely enjoyed my stay in SP as always. I didn't experience the amount of quality that I did on previous trips and actually prefer my first leg and Rio because I encountered more curves. Next up is a new city of the beaten path in Goaina. Wish me luck.
The lineup in FKKs (European sauna clubs) is thin as a result of most of the working girls going home for Christmas and lineup doesn't get back to normal until end of January.
I would like ask those who are familiar with SP and Rio scene, what kind of impact does Christmas and New years time has on boetes, clinicas and termas in terms of quality and strength of lineup?
The lineup in FKKs (European sauna clubs) is thin as a result of most of the working girls going home for Christmas and lineup doesn't get back to normal until end of January.
I would like ask those who are familiar with SP and Rio scene, what kind of impact does Christmas and New years time has on boetes, clinicas and termas in terms of quality and strength of lineup?So don't be hard-headed and not listen. Don't do it! Just like in Europe, the girls have family and friends and want to enjoy the holiday season just like everybody else.
Vagabundo1
06-13-21, 19:07
I'm not going to carry on a debate. Yes, to each his own. I would commend bubba boy's guide, the sections on mini relationships. IMHO, my goal in mongering in termas, prives or freelancers is the minirelationship, as BB describes. I have had it when I am in Brazil only 1 or 2 weeks a few times a year, and it is easier of course if longer. But if a man just wants a bang in a terma, hey that's fine. It's all good.
it will always be a very "subjective"
Vagabundo1
06-13-21, 19:52
The only thing I like more is hanging out with 18 year olds 24/7. At buzios, arrail, ihla, Petropolis. Don't want a lifetime, or kids, or even months, just 2 days every few weeks, and 2-3 pernoites a week. Need to drop them when they get in their early 20's, and recruit new 18 and 19 yo's.
Seriously, am I the only guy that likes hanging with 23 year old hotties 24x7? Cuz damn I do adore it!.
TiaVoyage25
06-13-21, 20:26
So don't be hard-headed and not listen. Don't do it! Just like in Europe, the girls have family and friends and want to enjoy the holiday season just like everybody else.I can't speak for Rio or SP specifically, but I was in Colombia right after Christmas and during New Year (see my reports from this past January). In South America, there is still a very strong religious culture present, and with that comes significant family ties. Girls go home. Quality and quantity is much lower during the holiday season. In Latin American countries, there are even religious holidays after the New Year so it doesn't pick up again until around the January 15 timeframe.
I can't speak for Rio or SP specifically, but I was in Colombia right after Christmas and during New Year (see my reports from this past January). In South America, there is still a very strong religious culture present, and with that comes significant family ties. Girls go home. Quality and quantity is much lower during the holiday season. In Latin American countries, there are even religious holidays after the New Year so it doesn't pick up again until around the January 15 timeframe.The one exception is Cali, where between Christmas and NY is the absolute best time.
TiaVoyage25
06-14-21, 01:23
The one exception is Cali, where between Christmas and NY is the absolute best time.I stand corrected and also wish I had known that before I went to Bogota earlier this past year!
I stand corrected and also wish I had known that before I went to Bogota earlier this past year!Well this last year la Feria didn't happen (or it took place "virtually" which is useless) so it probably wasn't that great. But in normal times, la Feria starts on the night of Dec 25 and finishes before the NY. The city is alive like no other time. Tons of action and the women, both pro and non-pro, want to party and fuck.
I can't speak for Rio or SP specifically, but I was in Colombia right after Christmas and during New Year (see my reports from this past January). In South America, there is still a very strong religious culture present, and with that comes significant family ties. Girls go home. Quality and quantity is much lower during the holiday season. In Latin American countries, there are even religious holidays after the New Year so it doesn't pick up again until around the January 15 timeframe.That is true in BR also. There is a saying in BR that work doesn't start until after Carnaval. But boates remain open except for Christmas and new years. Maybe in normal year but w / the pandemic its hard to know and plus in SP the gov declared holidays early to keep people home but will make up for it later.
Brazil weekly avg 80 k cases a day with 15% fully vaccinated. New normal will not be until end of the year.
So don't be hard-headed and not listen. Don't do it! Just like in Europe, the girls have family and friends and want to enjoy the holiday season just like everybody else.It knew it was wishful thinking but I just wanted to check to make sure.
SamaRiding
06-15-21, 00:52
It knew it was wishful thinking but I just wanted to check to make sure.I know this belongs in the FKK section but since people were asking here. Sharks has a holiday bonus for the girls who work the entire period from Christmas to New Years Eve, which essentially covers the girls' fees for that week. So Sharks is pretty much at full strength during this time. I did that week in Sharks several year ago and had a great time. It was fun to ring in the new year with a bunch of naked girls around you. The Romanian girls then go home afterwards to celebrate orthodox Christmas which is usually in mid Jan.
Hey guys, just want to introduce myself. I posted in the general info already, I'm new to this board but not to the forum or to Brazil (check my post history). I'm going to be in SP for a week starting thurs, can't wait to contribute and hang with you guys for a bit. I'm staying in campo belo, and I saw the map. With all that being said, does anyone have a solid recommend for a driver / guide? THANKS!
BTW, after SP I'm going to rio for a week, and later this summer to Kiev! I already have my hookups in both places so if anyone wants a recommend, hit me up.
SinfullyKorean
06-15-21, 06:07
I'm going to be in SP for a week starting thurs, can't wait to contribute and hang with you guys for a bit. I'm staying in campo belo, and I saw the map. With all that being said, does anyone have a solid recommend for a driver / guide? THANKS!
BTW, after SP I'm going to rio for a week, and later this summer to Kiev! I already have my hookups in both places so if anyone wants a recommend, hit me up.I'll be in SP one day before you. I plan on visiting Scandallo and Connections on Thurs and Fri. Hit me up if you want to hang out. I'll probably be with at least 1 other ISGer. And I think I mentioned this earlier, but I think the hottest clinicas in SP are Prime and Abbobora.
I got no recommendations on a driver / guide. Is that for tourist or monger stuff? I don't think Sao Paulo is much of a tourist destination. Seems more like a financial / business district to me.
I'll be in SP one day before you. I plan on visiting Scandallo and Connections on Thurs and Fri. Hit me up if you want to hang out. I'll probably be with at least 1 other ISGer. And I think I mentioned this earlier, but I think the hottest clinicas in SP are Prime and Abbobora.
I got no recommendations on a driver / guide. Is that for tourist or monger stuff? I don't think Sao Paulo is much of a tourist destination. Seems more like a financial / business district to me.For sure, I'll hit you up when I'm there. I would like a reliable all-in-one driver / guide. Even if SP isn't much for tourism, I'm sure there's cigar bars, neat little cafes, raver clubs, or something. Of course a well versed driver can not only hook me up with the best mongering but also help insure my safety and answer any questions. I have a guy in Cali, medellin, rio, and Kiev.
The Critic
06-15-21, 07:30
The point is not that spending any particular amount is wrong, but that it does not always equate to good sex or better sex. No! The point is individuals spend what they want given the perceived value proposition at that time. And if they want to post said amount they should not be criticized for it. Some members have deep pockets, Some do not. Some are frequent visitors or can live in country for weeks / months on end and others once in a lifetime or infrequent visitors. That is a huge determinant on spend rate. Money has never been a determinant to good sex or better sex in any P4 P situation especially when you don't know the providers mindset / motivation for being in the business in the first place and you never will.
At some point damn near every other day someone is asking about rates. Some rates are relatively fixed and some are not. However, there is a consensus of average rates (and members respond often what those rates are for those who take the time to RTFF) and then there are those who funds allow them at any given time to pay above or below the average rate.
See the bubba boy report, search for good sex, search for mini relationships. Don't need to. Also, my commentary is not related to above mentioned report, so I don't know why is being attributed my comment.
How many of those girls in pictures from tier 1 termas have you taken to Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail, Petropolis? How many stay the night for as many nights as you want.None! Since I don't care to spend my money that way. Again I don't know why is being attributed my comment.
The Critic
06-15-21, 07:40
If I'm worried that I spent too much that's one thing. But if somebody else is worried that I spent too much, well that's quite another LOL! We all have spending limits and budgets we need to keep in mind. It's just that once I've set mine according to my own personal requirements, I don't care what somebody else thinks about that. From the very first moment that I took on this hobby, I have 100% lived by the following. Make sure your bills are paid and your investments made before you get laid!Wish I said it first. LOL!
Vagabundo1
06-15-21, 14:36
This is straight from the Bubba Boy guide, a ISG member who spent 10 years in Brazil:
"An interesting point: The locals guys tend to go to Termas, primarily to drink and maybe grab a cheap feel, or several cheap feels. The majority won't take a girl to a cabine at all, they may or not be able to afford it, but know they can find something way cheaper elsewhere.
The longer I spend in Rio, the more I head to the cheaper places and the prives, basically you can find some real gems for a fraction of the price of the expensive places. The only downside is that the cheaper places tend to have less of a choice, this can be overcome by going to 2 or 3 on the same night. Entrance is generally are $ 10 to are $ 20 and the girl maybe are $ 100, hence with a bit of work you can bang some one as hot or even hotter than at the expensive places for just are $ 150, half the price and twice the fun! I am amazed that I have found some girls that are hotter than even the hottest "L'Uomo-Centaurus-Barbarelas" GDP's and for only are $120 or so. Most if not all of these places except cash only and in the local currency. English is a lot less common."
I'm not saying it is wrong or right but he has credibility.
No! The point is individuals spend what they want given the perceived value proposition at that time.
I'm not saying it is wrong or right but he has credibility.And he would have had even more credibility if he had noted that many of those cheaper places would be seen as squalid and / or dirty by many a monger reading reports on this site (like Termas 502). There are plenty of guys who go off on a vacation who don't want to spend it standing up fucking in a place where they don't even want to take their shoes off. I'm not saying all the cheap places are like that, but it's well known that many of them are. I think the clinicas of Sao Paulo have a better reputation for cleanliness than the prives of Rio de Janeiro do overall. At least he did note that one reason why some don't session in the Tier 1 termas is because they can't afford it. Lots of guy who patronize the cheaper places don't want to admit that. But it's true.
None! Since I don't care to spend my money that way. Again I don't know why is being attributed my comment. Absolutely! Your money your prerogative!
See the bubba boy report, search for good sex, search for mini relationships. Don't need to. Also, my commentary is not related to above mentioned report, so I don't know why is being attributed my comment.After all, not everyone who travels, reads or follows, the Lonely Planet guidebooks verbatim, as it relates to them.
Also take into account that their guidebooks, while they can be utilized by everyone in some fashion, they are more suited to those that travel with a low to mid style of traveling. Some of us just don't travel that way. While somethings may appeal to many, others will have no interest in said activity, sport, excursion, sightseeing...etc.
Albeit, Lonely Plant, delivery good guidebooks (not anymore according to some), it is after all just a guidebook, not the "Holy Grail", to traveling.
I finally clicked on the "bubba boy" report and started laughing. From March (or May) 2012 . WTF? I didn't get past the first line. Now I am sure it has some helpful tips for newbies but nothing anyone can't gather from a reading a few pages in the forum.
As a member of this forum, I post so others who might have the same mentality as I do get the info they require and in the same hope, I pick up some new tips.
Friends — do what makes you happy, post about it and move on. If someone wants some advice from your posts, they can DM you and can help them.
The Critic
06-16-21, 03:18
The longer I spend in Rio, the more I head to the cheaper places and the prives, basically you can find some real gems for a fraction of the price of the expensive places.1. You either live there or can spend months on end there. You also like and relish the Hunt. I get it. Everyone can't do that. Some work or have other commitments that preclude them staying in Brazil for extended periods of time (which is most of the members on this forum). For the retired, independently wealthy, remote worker, permanent resident, and etc. You have the Ability, Time and Desire to scour every nook and cranny for inexpensive gems.
2. Here is the thing. I respect how everyone on this forum spends their time in their pursuit, this is one of many reasons we travel. However, I will not denigrate anyone on what they spend regarding their pursuit and where they go to obtain it. There are some places I will go and some places I will not go, also my budget allows me to spend low or high, but I do not have the time to hunt everywhere for the sake of finding a gem.
3. I applaud anyone who can stay long term in country. RJ / SP are vast areas that probably have many venues to hunt of which many members are not aware of or do not want to travel to explore. But to those adventurous ones please just list the establishments or providers and members will decide if they want to partake if it provides value to them.
There are plenty of guys who go off on a vacation who don't want to spend it standing up fucking in a place where they don't even want to take their shoes off. I am absolutely one of those guys!! LOL.
Albeit, Lonely Plant, delivery good guidebooks (not anymore according to some), it is after all just a guidebook, not the "Holy Grail", to traveling.
Yes
I finally clicked on the "bubba boy" report and started laughing. From March (or May) 2012 . WTF? I didn't get past the first line. Now I am sure it has some helpful tips for newbies but nothing anyone can't gather from a reading a few pages in the forum.
As a member of this forum, I post so others who might have the same mentality as I do get the info they require and in the same hope, I pick up some new tips.
Friends do what makes you happy, post about it and move on. If someone wants some advice from your posts, they can DM you and can help them.
Yes, Yes, Well Stated.
With that being said I would like to move on from this subject.
Vagabundo1
06-16-21, 04:25
Lyin' in a den in Bombay.
With a slack jaw and not much to say.
I said to the man, "Are you trying to tempt me?
Because I come from the land of plenty.
And he said:
Oh! Do you come from a land down under? (oh yeah, yeah).
Where women glow and men plunder.
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder? Aah.
You better run, you better take cover.
- Down Under, by Men at Work.
I attach to this post the Bubba Boy Guide 1 and 2. I quote Down Under, the classic rock ballad of Australia, the land of Bubba Boy. Now if you're going through a window, and a Aussie is behind you, you know you will have back up. The people of other lands, not so much.
As I have always said, the details must be updated by:
1. Reading GPArena.net and for all of Brazil, GPGuia.
But, even though Facebag now owns zap, and Google is even bigger, and we are all hyperconnected, and the metro now goes to Barra (which is the first and most important update), the bubba boy guide remains the book of Genesis of the International Sex Guide. Indeed, Bubba who was in Brazil for 10 years, and last updated his guide in 2012, predated ISG in Brazil by a year.
Now, I don't have any real dispute with any of you. Anaggie did a fine job by getting bareback by bringing his tests and negotiating before hand BBFS. I like loiras / brancas just as much as Cane. I appreciate The Critic's well written remarks.
All I am saying is that the Bubba Boy's Guide is still the single best, single source, one document starting place. Now, any monger here is free to update these guides. I posted the word files. A enterprising monger could even make a google document out of them and make it a group project. Go for it.
The essential geography of Rio mongering, and the social dynamics between different classes of establishments is all there. It is better than that macumbo puritanical social science bullshit. economist.com 's 2014 special report on why sex work should be legalized is still valid even though it is 7 years old, almost the 9 years that Bubba Boy's guide is.
Or we could cut and paste the major portions of the guide in the forum and edit them to death for the sake of all the new monger congregants to the church of hooker mongering.
It's just like that classic film, Breaker Morant, also about aussie's is still the best film of counterinsurgency. A film which also has fucking hookers in it.
This is straight from the Bubba Boy guide, a ISG member who spent 10 years in Brazil:
"An interesting point: The locals guys tend to go to Termas, primarily to drink and maybe grab a cheap feel, or several cheap feels. The majority won't take a girl to a cabine at all, they may or not be able to afford it, but know they can find something way cheaper elsewhere.
The longer I spend in Rio, the more I head to the cheaper places and the prives, basically you can find some real gems for a fraction of the price of the expensive places. The only downside is that the cheaper places tend to have less of a choice, this can be overcome by going to 2 or 3 on the same night..
And he would have had even more credibility if he had noted that many of those cheaper places would be seen as squalid and / or dirty by many a monger reading reports on this site (like Termas 502).This piqued my curiosity. I know Anaggie did not read the guide as he said so but have you read all Bubba's posts to come to this conclusion?
Vagabundo1
06-16-21, 08:59
Bubba Boy lived in Brazil for 10 years, 2002-2012. He is an aussie. He has as much experience as this website and its longest posting members. I've posted both parts of the report, with these disclaimers:
1. Update the data by looking at GPArena (http://gparena.net/), and GPGuia (https://www.gp-guia.net/) for all of Brazil. To include pricing, which locations are open, etc.
2. Brazilians are Brazilians, and BB's guide is as valid as the notebooks of the guy who founded Rio and Sao Paulo.
Lyin' in a den in Bombay.
With a slack jaw and not much to say.
I said to the man, "Are you trying to tempt me?
Because I come from the land of plenty.
This piqued my curiosity. I know Anaggie did not read the guide as he said so but have you read all Bubba's posts to come to this conclusion?
With that being said I would like to move on from this subject.Yeah, me too. But, some can't seem to let it go.
Yeah, me too. But, some can't seem to let it go.I can hardly wait for SinfullyKorean's Scandallo report.
Next up is a new city of the beaten path in Goaina. Wish me luck.Always enjoying reading your trip report and have fun at Goaina.
If you have a chance, try Florianopolis.
I spent Thursday through Saturday running through clinicas, boated and sugar babies including one laying next to me right now.
I'm staying at Mercure New York Time Square. It's walking distance to the clinicas and there are tons of local restaurants around. Paid $77 for 3 nights for modest king size bed room with everything in working order. I had no problem bring girls up which I usually brought up during the night. Didn't have to registered them and walked straight up to the hotel room. I will start off work the clinicas.
CLnica Prime.
I went around 2:30 pm on Thursday. Only one other guy there. About 9 girls presented. Mostly all thin brancas who look very girl next door. Nothing stood out to me (disclaimer: I like curves and none were found here). Didn't inquire about prices. Never returned. Didn't inquire about prices. Age range seem like early 20's to early 30's.Going on September for a month trip in SP. I would be glad to have the addresses. I don't speak Portuguese but very adapt with google maps + translator. Please be so kind to direct me the address of those nice clubs. Are there also outcalls massage clubs Body to body with happy ending? Than ks up in front and good read! Keep it up!
Much appreciated. I've visited Florianópolis a few years back and wrote a quick review of it. I try to visit a different city every time I'm come to Brazil. This place is a goal mine.
Always enjoying reading your trip report and have fun at Goaina.
If you have a chance, try Florianopolis.
Vagabundo1
06-18-21, 12:11
You do it right. In RJ, you're 5 loads in first day, two in the prives, and then reasonable prices (391 r all in) in the tier 1 termas were solid.
Your hitting vm to pace yourself with the non pro is a good approach.
A man should never never masterbate in Brazil. When there is 12 dollar pussy 24/7 a brief uber or bus ride away, a man should never be pussy whipped.
Much appreciated. I've visited Florianpolis a few years back and wrote a quick review of it. I try to visit a different city every time I'm come to Brazil. This place is a goal mine.
Good news!
Gabriella (9)
Gabriella's a shark, and it's my fault for letting her be one. She knows what kind of people are attracted to her and can probably smell newbie blood from a mile away. She has an innocent look, but the viciousness of an experienced shark. I made the mistake of telling her it was my first night. DON'T EVER TELL THEM IT'S YOUR FIRST NIGHT! Asians seem to prefer her looks. She said she's popular with Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese. She's about 5'3", barely any fat, and natural see's. She donned a light brown cashmere without a bra that accented her eraser sized nipples. We talked for a little bit. Kissing each other's faces, as I lightly fondle her breasts / nipples. She didn't object. Her English was good, one of the best I've heard in Brazil. She mentioned that some other guy wanted to talk to her, said he'd talk to her after his dinner but I'd already snatched her up. He kept looking our way. She quoted R1000 for upstairs. I countered with R500, but she told me that's only at Connection. In Scandallo, most girls don't go so low. She brought it down to R800, but I hate negotiating as it kills the mood for me. We talk for a bit more, communication is good, and I enjoy her company. So I buy her a drink. But after I buy the drink (moscow mule R80), she asks if I want to go upstairs. I tell her no. Then, she lays it on thick, saying it's rude to keep talking to a girl if you're going to decline her offer. That if you decide you're not going to take her upstairs, you should let her know. She said she lost a customer because of me. And yes, stupid me paid the simp tax: R100. I consider it my initiation fee. It won't be happening again. For me, it was worth just getting rid of her. I know it was a mistake to give her anything. I open my wallet, of course she wants more (R200). But I just give her the 100 and she leaves. I'm writing and admitting this in hopes other newbies don't repeat my mistake.
The only way to beat a shark at its own game is to be a shark of your own. Next time, tell her straightforward what you expect and how much you are willing to pay. Also, tell her that you will go upstairs on your own time and don't want to be pressured. Now she has a choice. Either stay with someone who is pretty much a sure thing or look for someone else. This way, she has to take a decision and the pressure is off your shoulders. She now has to entice you and work for it. In the end, if you and her don't click, she moves on if there is enough meat for her to pick and choose. If the supply of dudes are slim, she will stay.
Glad to hear Scandello is open till 4 am again. I will be hitting it up in my next trip in August.
Enjoyed reading all your reports and I appreciate your contributions.
Good news!
Scandallo is now open until 4 AM again. They just started yesterday. This probably means the Scandallo girls will not be moving to Connection at 9 PM.
Bad news is, my report will probably be a little disappointing. I've been spoiled by my sessions in clinicas and prives. I just don't see the value proposition in the boates. 90% of you guys will probably prefer boates due to the atmosphere and beautiful women. But not me. Here's my report:
...I'm grateful for your honest report. I have made many trips to SP but never visited Scandallo mainly because my intuition gave me the impression that was your experience. Steve and the Cane have sung the praises of Scandallo and on my next visit to SP I would do like you and see for myself.
Personally I would not have done like you and pay a girl who I decided not to go to the room with. Not sessioning her is your prerogative and part of the vagaries of her job, it would have been done to the garotas all the time expecially by Brazilian clientele. That being said I remembered an experience I had in Sharks FKK; I was chatting with a very friendly hot Romanian spinner. I normally do not spend much time talking before going to the zimmer but on this occasion I really enjoyed the conversation as she had a great sense of humor. After over an hour of chatting I spied a girl I had wanted to seriously bang but who was always occupied with some bloke or the other. I told the girl I was with that I got to go, she said she was offended that I spent so much time talking to her but was not taking her to the room, I offered her EUR 20 for her time but she refused.
My apologies. I meant to put the address. Here they are below. Also, look for Worldtravel69 maps. They have helped me tremendously.
CLínica Miruna.
Av. Miruna, 644 - Moema, São Paulo. SP, 04084-002, Brazil.
CLínica Abbobora.
Alameda dos Guaramomis, 1275 - Planalto Paulista, São Paulo. SP, 04076-012, Brazil.
CLínica Prime.
Av. Iraí, 511 - Moema, São Paulo. SP, 04082-001, Brazil.
CLínica Carinas.
Av. Dos Carinás, 439 - Indianópolis, São Paulo. SP, 04086-010, Brazil.
CLínica EnjoySpa.
Rua Condessa do Pinhal, 279 - Parque Colonial, São Paulo. SP, 04610-060, Brazil.
CLínica Brooklin.
Are. Joaquim Guarani, 121 - Jardim das Acacias, São Paulo. SP, 04707-060, Brazil.
CLínica Kin (go all the way down the alley to the left).
Jardim das Acacias, São Paulo. State of São Paulo, 04707-080, Brazil.
CLínica Tangará (look for the blue door).
Are. Tangará, 200 - Vila Mariana, São Paulo. SP, 04019-030, Brazil.
Going on September for a month trip in SP. I would be glad to have the addresses. I don't speak Portuguese but very adapt with google maps + translator. Please be so kind to direct me the address of those nice clubs. Are there also outcalls massage clubs Body to body with happy ending? Than ks up in front and good read! Keep it up!
Much appreciated. Thanks for all the reports and you are a lucky man to live in paradise.
You do it right. In RJ, you're 5 loads in first day, two in the prives, and then reasonable prices (391 r all in) in the tier 1 termas were solid.
Your hitting vm to pace yourself with the non pro is a good approach.
A man should never never masterbate in Brazil. When there is 12 dollar pussy 24/7 a brief uber or bus ride away, a man should never be pussy whipped.
Gabriella's a shark, and it's my fault for letting her be one. She knows what kind of people are attracted to her and can probably smell newbie blood from a mile away. She has an innocent look, but the viciousness of an experienced shark. I made the mistake of telling her it was my first night. DON'T EVER TELL THEM IT'S YOUR FIRST NIGHT! Asians seem to prefer her looks. She said she's popular with Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese. She's about 5'3", barely any fat, and natural see's. She donned a light brown cashmere without a bra that accented her eraser sized nipples. We talked for a little bit. Kissing each other's faces, as I lightly fondle her breasts / nipples. She didn't object. Her English was good, one of the best I've heard in Brazil. She mentioned that some other guy wanted to talk to her, said he'd talk to her after his dinner but I'd already snatched her up. He kept looking our way. She quoted R1000 for upstairs. I countered with R500, but she told me that's only at Connection. In Scandallo, most girls don't go so low. She brought it down to R800, but I hate negotiating as it kills the mood for me. We talk for a bit more, communication is good, and I enjoy her company. So I buy her a drink. But after I buy the drink (moscow mule R80), she asks if I want to go upstairs. I tell her no. Then, she lays it on thick, saying it's rude to keep talking to a girl if you're going to decline her offer. That if you decide you're not going to take her upstairs, you should let her know. She said she lost a customer because of me. And yes, stupid me paid the simp tax: R100. I consider it my initiation fee. It won't be happening again. For me, it was worth just getting rid of her. I know it was a mistake to give her anything. I open my wallet, of course she wants more (R200). But I just give her the 100 and she leaves. I'm writing and admitting this in hopes other newbies don't repeat my mistake.Great, great reports SK. You paint a nice picture of what to expect at venues and how the negotiations and sex will go down.
Your experience with Gabriella is an interesting one that every monger should be prepared for. One of the downsides to the SP boates is the superstars might be able to get a couple sessions a night. The rooms are right there and they can get quickly back into action. Call them sharks if you wish, but don't forget these women are running a small commercial enterprise. The really cool girls are good at creating the allusion that they like hanging out at the club entertaining strange men. It's still not reality.
Anaggie gave good advice. Tell them what you expect, what you will pay and when you are ready. She can stay if she desires, but I wouldn't tie her down without giving her a commitment. That's just me. I am always cognizant of a girl's time in a boate. I kind of learned this at Help Disco, other discos around the world and the Rio termas. Generally, I don't lock down a girl until I'm certain she's the one. If a girl entertains me in the club, I will reward her by not jumping ship at the next hot girl that comes along. There often is a reward for me in the session for my loyalty. Even at a termas, I will tell a girl I'm going to chill, but I'll be ready in an hour. Most of the time they stay or come back. Fair enough.
As I said, there seems to be more time pressure with the superstars in a boate like Scandallo.
I am putting together plans to come to Sao Paolo next month, with my novia from Colombia and I had a few questions.
1. Anyone else have experience / issues bringing a girl from Colombia to Brazil? I've read that a passport is not needed, which is great because the process to get a passport in Antioquia has been an absolute cluster fuck.
2. I plan on bringing her to boates like Scandallo or Connection. I expect I won't have a problem getting in, but should I expect to pay extra to the garota to have a threesome? And would we have to rent a double occupancy room or soemthing? Are the garotas even open to going to the room with other girls?
3. Anyone have any experience bringing another girl to a Clinica? Is that even a possibility? Or will the logistics not work out (aka room too small, outside girls not allowed to enter, etc)?
Would love to get some perspecrives on this!
SinfullyKorean
06-19-21, 00:42
You paint a nice picture of what to expect at venues and how the negotiations and sex will go down.
Your experience with Gabriella is an interesting one that every monger should be prepared for. That's my only goal in writing that portion of the report. I knew people would say "you shouldn't have done that", etc. If it helps one other monger out of that situation, I've achieved my goal. I like what you said about making my intentions clear. I should've done that. I didn't think I was going to session that day, and I probably should've let her know, at the very least when she mentioned her price.
I am putting together plans to come to Sao Paolo next month, with my novia from Colombia and I had a few questions.Take a look at Global's post: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2570348&viewfull=1#post2570348.
And WorldTravel's map: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4065-Sao-Paulo-Map.
They're complimentary posts. If you look up the clinicas, you'll usually be able to find a WhatsApp number listed on their sites. You can ask the managers directly. Same goes for boates. Girl on girl action here seems to be a lot more common. And my ISG buddy had 3 somes in Prime clinica for about R300. So I can't imagine BYOB (babe) will be rejected.
This is just my first day of a week in SP, and already I don't think I like it very much. This place reminds me too too too much of Buenos Aires (I reference you to my misadventures from 2014). Nothing but riddled with obstinance. Just weird, inverted, and difficult. In general the place smells really bad, it looks like an enormous slum, can't actually walk to anywhere (no matter how well you planned where you stay), uber takes extra long because after the first guy cancels (at the last minute) traffic will delay you past double the ETA anyway, nobody speaks anything but the local portuguese spoken here (which is some slick regional dialect that defies translation), everything is banker's hours (they roll the sidewalks up at 9), and everything is almost as expensive as in the usa. At least the people are fundamentally friendly, I will give them that (owner of the apartment left me half a case of liquor). But for anything other than brutal industrialism, I'd steer well clear of this place.
Eff it. If this long-ass week is just going to be a long-ass museum and garden tour with a (secretly expensive) lunch special, than so be it. Tomorrow starts early and reports start tomorrow night.
SinfullyKorean
06-19-21, 03:29
This is just my first day of a week in SP, and already I don't think I like it very much.
LOL you're here to hobby, right? And the reason you're able to hobby here for so cheap is because of the income disparity. I've been in Moema the past 2 weeks (plus Rio), and I haven't noticed a bad smell. I think I noticed some bad smell passing a neighborhood while Ubering to Connection. But you're right. SP food is pretty expensive, relative to hotel and monger prices. A good meal typically costs $15-$20. I'm sure you can find better deals, but SP is a business district.
The same goes for any SEA country. I've been to Thailand and Vietnam. Both are MUCH worse as far as odor and sanitation goes.
Everything closing early is a major inconvenience. But that's due to covid restrictions. We're lucky to even be here at all considering how high Brazil's covid numbers are.
I'm more of a go with the flow, see the silver lining type of guy by nature. But I've thoroughly enjoyed my 2 week stay in Brazil and plan on living here soon.
If you think SP is bad, wait til you check out Rio. I've never felt unsafe in SP. But everyone in Rio tells me to be careful, including the hotel receptionist and a MAB'S garota, who kept checking over her shoulder as we were walking to my hotel.One always has to have his wits about him and be street smart in Rio (parts of Sampa too for that matter). But, you've got to consider that the economic damage from the pandemic has made everything much, much worse. People are suffering. People are desperate to survive. And desperate times make for desperate men. So, follow that MABs garota's example folks and keep watch over your backs!
This is just my first day of a week in SP, and already I don't think I like it very much. This place reminds me too too too much of Buenos Aires (I reference you to my misadventures from 2014). Nothing but riddled with obstinance. Just weird, inverted, and difficult. In general the place smells really bad, it looks like an enormous slum, can't actually walk to anywhere (no matter how well you planned where you stay), uber takes extra long because after the first guy cancels (at the last minute) traffic will delay you past double the ETA anyway, nobody speaks anything but the local portuguese spoken here (which is some slick regional dialect that defies translation), everything is banker's hours (they roll the sidewalks up at 9), and everything is almost as expensive as in the usa. At least the people are fundamentally friendly, I will give them that (owner of the apartment left me half a case of liquor). But for anything other than brutal industrialism, I'd steer well clear of this place.
Eff it. If this long-ass week is just going to be a long-ass museum and garden tour with a (secretly expensive) lunch special, than so be it. Tomorrow starts early and reports start tomorrow night.Are you sure your flight was not diverted?
This is just my first day of a week in SP, and already I don't think I like it very much. This place reminds me too too too much of Buenos Aires (I reference you to my misadventures from 2014). Nothing but riddled with obstinance. Just weird, inverted, and difficult. In general the place smells really bad, it looks like an enormous slum, can't actually walk to anywhere (no matter how well you planned where you stay), uber takes extra long because after the first guy cancels (at the last minute) traffic will delay you past double the ETA anyway, nobody speaks anything but the local portuguese spoken here (which is some slick regional dialect that defies translation), everything is banker's hours (they roll the sidewalks up at 9), and everything is almost as expensive as in the usa. At least the people are fundamentally friendly, I will give them that (owner of the apartment left me half a case of liquor). But for anything other than brutal industrialism, I'd steer well clear of this place.
Eff it. If this long-ass week is just going to be a long-ass museum and garden tour with a (secretly expensive) lunch special, than so be it. Tomorrow starts early and reports start tomorrow night.I have been to Buenos Aires a few times, stayed in some nice areas, and I recall the core of BA being really nice actually. And although I would be the first to stand up and say that Copacabana smells bad, I experienced no bad smells anywhere in Sao Paulo that I went. I've stayed in Moema each time, and felt quite safe walking around, even at night. Giant slum? No clue what you're talking about. Sampa has good parts and bad parts just like any other big city. I stay my ass in the good parts! So should you. And instead of complaining about the language, remember it's their country and not yours! The people aren't there to accommodate you. So, find a way to communicate effectively so that you can roll hard and handle your business! Brazilian people generally speaking (no pun intended) are quite friendly. Work with them, and they will work with you. I mean, I could be wrong, but initially you sound like the kind of traveler where if everything isn't the way it is back home, or something close to it, then it sucks and is no good. Enjoy the place for what it is, and what it has to offer. And in Brazil, that includes some the absolute baddest tutes in the entire world! Believe this.
Vagabundo1
06-19-21, 13:14
Go to rj.
Beaches.
You express my disdain of SP well.
This is just my first day of a week in SP, and already I don't think I like it very much. This place reminds me too too too much of Buenos Aires (I reference you to my misadventures from 2014). Nothing but riddled with obstinance. Just weird, inverted, and difficult. In general the place smells really bad, it looks like an enormous slum, can't actually walk to anywhere (no matter how well you planned where you stay), uber takes extra long because after the first guy cancels (at the last minute) traffic will delay you past double the ETA anyway, nobody speaks anything but the local portuguese spoken here (which is some slick regional dialect that defies translation), everything is banker's hours (they roll the sidewalks up at 9), and everything is almost as expensive as in the usa. At least the people are fundamentally friendly, I will give them that (owner of the apartment left me half a case of liquor). But for anything other than brutal industrialism, I'd steer well clear of this place.
Eff it. If this long-ass week is just going to be a long-ass museum and garden tour with a (secretly expensive) lunch special, than so be it. Tomorrow starts early and reports start tomorrow night.
CarpeDiem305
06-19-21, 15:17
What are your guys favorite hotels? I've seen a few positive mentions of Bourbon Convention.
This is just my first day of a week in SP, and already I don't think I like it very much. This place reminds me too too too much of Buenos Aires (I reference you to my misadventures from 2014). Nothing but riddled with obstinance. Just weird, inverted, and difficult. In general the place smells really bad, it looks like an enormous slum, can't actually walk to anywhere (no matter how well you planned where you stay), uber takes extra long because after the first guy cancels (at the last minute) traffic will delay you past double the ETA anyway, nobody speaks anything but the local portuguese spoken here (which is some slick regional dialect that defies translation), everything is banker's hours (they roll the sidewalks up at 9), and everything is almost as expensive as in the usa. At least the people are fundamentally friendly, I will give them that (owner of the apartment left me half a case of liquor). But for anything other than brutal industrialism, I'd steer well clear of this place.Not to be glib, but Sao Paulo is what it is, nothing more, nothing less. Just a giant Latina American concrete jungle. Mongers rate SP highly for mongering, but not tourist amenities. But just like Rio is not Miami, Sao Paulo is not New York City.
Yes, it seems restaurants and bars are overpriced for the country, but you are likely staying where many of the top 10% of Brazil lives. Jardim Paulista is an affluent area with some nice commercial streets lined with cafes and such just as there are in BA. Malls also seem to be a bigger deal here than in the States.
You mentioned that both SP and BA are "riddled with obstinance". I'm not exactly sure of the choice of words. Generally, Brazilians are more flexible and friendlier than Argentinians.
One always has to have his wits about him and be street smart in Rio (parts of Sampa too for that matter). But, you've got to consider that the economic damage from the pandemic has made everything much, much worse. People are suffering. People are desperate to survive. And desperate times make for desperate men. So, follow that MABs garota's example folks and keep watch over your backs!This can't be reiterated enough. Don't fall prey to thoughts like your a big guy no one is going to fuck with me. The bad people know foreigners carry around more cash than most Brazilians make in a month or two.
It sounds like many mongers here start getting high on the monger lifestyle. Perhaps they have a few drinks in them. Listen to us. Uber even short distances! Don't look at your Google map and think "well, it's only a 10 minute walk."
This is just my first day of a week in SP, and already I don't think I like it very much. This place reminds me too too too much of Buenos Aires (I reference you to my misadventures from 2014). Nothing but riddled with obstinance. Just weird, inverted, and difficult. In general the place smells really bad, it looks like an enormous slum, can't actually walk to anywhere (no matter how well you planned where you stay), uber takes extra long because after the first guy cancels (at the last minute) traffic will delay you past double the ETA anyway, nobody speaks anything but the local portuguese spoken here (which is some slick regional dialect that defies translation), everything is banker's hours (they roll the sidewalks up at 9), and everything is almost as expensive as in the usa. At least the people are fundamentally friendly, I will give them that (owner of the apartment left me half a case of liquor). But for anything other than brutal industrialism, I'd steer well clear of this place.
Eff it. If this long-ass week is just going to be a long-ass museum and garden tour with a (secretly expensive) lunch special, than so be it. Tomorrow starts early and reports start tomorrow night.Perhaps you are in the wrong areas. Try spending time in Jardims, Itaim, Villa Nova Conceicao, Moema or Campo Belo (assuming you haven't). I've been walking around these areas. They can be very pleasant. No smells. Friendly people. Stop in at a padaria or lanchonette for a meal. The food is wholesome and cheap. I've mentioned a few decent, not overly expensive restaurants to visit in earlier posts. Last night I ate at Nagayama in Itaim. Great Japanese food. I didn't like São Paulo the first couple of times I visited. But give it a chance and explore. Learn some Portuguese. It's a really great city.
Not to be glib, but Sao Paulo is what it is, nothing more, nothing less. Just a giant Latin American concrete jungle. Mongers rate SP highly for mongering, but not tourist amenities. But just like Rio is not Miami, Sao Paulo is not New York City.Could not have said it better myself! But, you do know that parts of New York City stink too right? Hahaha!
One always has to have his wits about him and be street smart in Rio (parts of Sampa too for that matter). But, you've got to consider that the economic damage from the pandemic has made everything much, much worse. People are suffering. People are desperate to survive. And desperate times make for desperate men. So, follow that MABs garota's example folks and keep watch over your backs!Even Elisa Sanches got robbed outside a shopping mall when a thief took her new, expensive phone few months ago.
The poor people are hit hardest by the pandemic. Yesterday I sent some money to a NGO to help people in Heliopolis favela in Sao Paulo.
DreamCarnarvon
06-19-21, 20:35
picked her from photoacompanhantes, Giovana Paes. I tell you why I went with her, despite her asking for quite a hefty sum BRL 400 without anal...One thing that distracted me was that her hair was fake. I love long hair and I know most have the extensions. In her case I learned she lost most of her natural hair in some incident in a hospital almost a year earlier. This was sad to hear and a bit of a downer. Health is hot, lack of health, whatever the reason, psychological or somatic, is a bit of a downer.
The PSE wasn't all that, and anyway her porn videos aren't really that professional hard core. The thing with her hair was a downer, didn't feel like pulling was an option nor really messing with it, I wish I had caught her earlier, the way she looked then.
But now that I wanted to share a link with you I noticed she actually might have returned to a more active status. So, when I'm back in the area I might hit her up just to continue that little thing we had going for a minute there.
Brazil calling: https://twitter.com/GiPaes2/status/1402167765692256259..I had a session with her in the fall of 2019. Back then she was staying at Edifício São Paulo Suite Service on Rua Major Diogo, 39. And I can confirm lots of working girls do work out of there as I visited two more girls in that building. This building does have airbnb listings so it may be a good place to stay. There is a front desk and a document is needed to get in. Can't remember how much she charged me back then but she was just so so. Since she is a porn atriz, I had high expectations but she was a letdown. Either she was having a bad day or she wasn't into me, there was no PSE or GFE. She didn't have any makeup on, which was fine by me as I usually prefer a natural look over heavy makeup (as most Brazilian women have). She was still very cute and attractive nonetheless. Didn't notice anything wrong with her hair so this was perhaps before when she lost her hair. I say without makeup she was a solid 7, an 8 with. Performance wise, I've had hundreds in the clinicas that were way better than her.
Squid, not sure if she's still available as I only see her promoting her OF page on her twitter account now.
Good news!Thank you for an informative and detail report. I am wondering if Scandello always has some girls like this. The original report is gone. I think you should try Colombia. It is also pretty cheap.
Alright then, here we are. My first sao paulo report. But first, a little housekeeping.
I've been to Thailand and Vietnam. Both are MUCH worse as far as odor and sanitation goes.
I've thoroughly enjoyed my 2 week stay in Brazil and plan on living here soon.I've been to thailand and can vouch emphatically. Just to clear things up, I LOVE Brazil. Please don't take my feelings about sao paulo to be extended towards Brazil as a whole. The culture is the best and the women are nothing short of par excellence.
I have been to Buenos Aires a few times, stayed in some nice areas, and I recall the core of BA being really nice actually. And although I would be the first to stand up and say that Copacabana smells bad, I experienced no bad smells anywhere in Sao Paulo that I went. I've stayed in Moema each time, and felt quite safe walking around, even at night. Giant slum? No clue what you're talking about. Sampa has good parts and bad parts just like any other big city. I stay my ass in the good parts! So should you. And instead of complaining about the language, remember it's their country and not yours! The people aren't there to accommodate you. So, find a way to communicate effectively so that you can roll hard and handle your business! Brazilian people generally speaking (no pun intended) are quite friendly. Work with them, and they will work with you. I mean, I could be wrong, but initially you sound like the kind of traveler where if everything isn't the way it is back home, or something close to it, then it sucks and is no good. Enjoy the place for what it is, and what it has to offer. And in Brazil, that includes some the absolute baddest tutes in the entire world! Believe this.Sage advice especially to future newcomers, and yes hands-down the baddest tutes on the planet. The smell is most pronounced on the drive to the center from GRU, when you really get to see just how much of the city is a slum. If you're riding uber / taxi, I recommend asking the driver to roll up the windows.
You mentioned that both SP and BA are "riddled with obstinance". I'm not exactly sure of the choice of words. Generally, Brazilians are more flexible and friendlier than Argentinians.100% I don't mean the people, brazilians are some of the friendliest people on earth. I mean more with logistics, protocols, and functionality.
Perhaps you are in the wrong areas. Try spending time in Jardims, Itaim, Villa Nova Conceicao, Moema or Campo Belo (assuming you haven't). I've been walking around these areas. They can be very pleasant. No smells. Friendly people. Stop in at a padaria or lanchonette for a meal. The food is wholesome and cheap. I've mentioned a few decent, not overly expensive restaurants to visit in earlier posts. Last night I ate at Nagayama in Itaim. Great Japanese food. I didn't like So Paulo the first couple of times I visited. But give it a chance and explore. Learn some Portuguese. It's a really great city.Bless your heart. I'm in campo bello *smiles.
Now to the good stuff, my report. I'll just start off by letting you guys read what I DM'd sinfullykorean.
well its too late to try abboboras or a prive. im not sure how to get into the prives either, not sure how safe it is to be standing outside trying to buzz a number im unsure of and talk to someone who doesnt understand me through a speaker while the omnipresent ne'er-do-wells spy on... and close in. ill try one later, during the day.
for tonight i guess i'll go to scandellos and pop the SP cherry. its saturday night, this is the worst time to go to a club atmosphere, but the trip cant be any more discouraging than it already is. man i really miss the rio way, those termas are the best.Once I get to scandello, I went to the restaurant area where I was greeted with a sense of instant confusion. Do I just seat myself? How am I supposed to initiate contact with the girls? Am I even supposed to be the one to do that? Someone finally clued me in that the rules are, there are no hard and fast rules. Ok, cool. As I was sipping my drink just floored by the talent that was there, a sexy little thing came right up and sat down next to me. A traveling dancer hippie girl with well conditioned muscles by the name of "Natacha". We made chit chat (through google translator) over our feelings about sao paulo and then we went to a room. (she wanted 1000 but I countered 800 to which she agreed instantly, no hassles.) after DFK and bbj, she had me go over of the edge of the bed so she could handstand the ground and grind me upside down (with her legs wide open). Upon dismount she bent over and touched the floor, inviting me in, so we went at it that way for a bit. Then over to the bed for full missionary where she had me locked in a full guard until I tapped out, with a smile on my face. And hers too LOL. We spoke for a bit, exchanged numbers, and she's been texting me ever since. Maybe sao paulo is not without its charms.
Steve 9696
06-20-21, 13:33
Alright then, here we are. My first sao paulo report. But first, a little housekeeping.
I've been to thailand and can vouch emphatically. Just to clear things up, I LOVE Brazil. Please don't take my feelings about sao paulo to be extended towards Brazil as a whole. The culture is the best and the women are nothing short of par excellence.
Sage advice especially to future newcomers, and yes hands-down the baddest tutes on the planet. The smell is most pronounced on the drive to the center from GRU, when you really get to see just how much of the city is a slum. If you're riding uber / taxi, I recommend asking the driver to roll up the windows.
100% I don't mean the people, brazilians are some of the friendliest people on earth. I mean more with logistics, protocols, and functionality.
Bless your heart. I'm in campo bello *smiles.
Now to the good stuff, my report. I'll just start off by letting you guys read what I DM'd sinfullykorean.
Once I get to scandello, I went to the restaurant area where I was greeted with a sense of instant confusion. Do I just seat myself? How am I supposed to initiate contact with the girls? Am I even supposed to be the one to do that? Someone finally clued me in that the rules are, there are no hard and fast rules. Ok, cool. As I was sipping my drink just floored by the talent that was there, a sexy little thing came right up and sat down next to me. A traveling dancer hippie girl with well conditioned muscles by the name of "Natacha". We made chit chat (through google translator) over our feelings about sao paulo and then we went to a room. (she wanted 1000 but I countered 800 to which she agreed instantly, no hassles.) after DFK and bbj, she had me go over of the edge of the bed so she could handstand the ground and grind me upside down (with her legs wide open). Upon dismount she bent over and touched the floor, inviting me in, so we went at it that way for a bit. Then over to the bed for full missionary where she had me locked in a full guard until I tapped out, with a smile on my face. And hers too LOL. We spoke for a bit, exchanged numbers, and she's been texting me ever since. Maybe sao paulo is not without its charms.So nice to hear a good Scandalo report. Seems like some guys are down on it of late but damn it's such a spectacle. Sounds like your girl was that spicy wildcat Brasileira I love. Prob could have guessed from the Gun and Garter tattoo. Very bad ass! I love her a bit!
I am sure you will be flamed for "overpaying" but fuck that noise. You pay what you think gets your hotttie to the room and never look back! Great job!
DreamCarnarvon
06-21-21, 00:48
Once I get to scandello, I went to the restaurant area where I was greeted with a sense of instant confusion. Do I just seat myself? How am I supposed to initiate contact with the girls? Am I even supposed to be the one to do that? Someone finally clued me in that the rules are, there are no hard and fast rules. Ok, cool. As I was sipping my drink just floored by the talent that was there, a sexy little thing came right up and sat down next to me. A traveling dancer hippie girl with well conditioned muscles by the name of "Natacha". We made chit chat (through google translator) over our feelings about sao paulo and then we went to a room. (she wanted 1000 but I countered 800 to which she agreed instantly, no hassles.) after DFK and bbj, she had me go over of the edge of the bed so she could handstand the ground and grind me upside down (with her legs wide open). Upon dismount she bent over and touched the floor, inviting me in, so we went at it that way for a bit. Then over to the bed for full missionary where she had me locked in a full guard until I tapped out, with a smile on my face. And hers too LOL. We spoke for a bit, exchanged numbers, and she's been texting me ever since. Maybe sao paulo is not without its charms.I'm glad Scandallo is back to its usual hours and that many guys are enjoying the girls. Keep it up guys so we can pitch in our help and not only keep the likes of Scandallo up but also the clinicas as well.
REALLY wanted to get a report for you guys tonight but the day just got away from me and I can't muster up the oompf to go out there and get laid. Man I even got dressed, threw on some cologne and everything LOL! I think part of it is that I don't want to be out too late here. Something about standing out in the cold in the empty street waiting for an uber just doesn't do it for me. Hell, half the restaurants are closed by 7 pm. I know its a reason but its no excuse when club Bahamas is open 24 h and is only 7 min ride away from where I stay.
No worries. I'll get started bright and early tomorrow and try to get 2 in somehow! Does anybody have the 411 on club Bahamas? I searched the forum to no avail, their website makes them seem pretty legit.
REALLY wanted to get a report for you guys tonight but the day just got away from me and I can't muster up the oompf to go out there and get laid. Man I even got dressed, threw on some cologne and everything LOL! I think part of it is that I don't want to be out too late here. Something about standing out in the cold in the empty street waiting for an uber just doesn't do it for me. Hell, half the restaurants are closed by 7 pm. I know its a reason but its no excuse when club Bahamas is open 24 h and is only 7 min ride away from where I stay.
No worries. I'll get started bright and early tomorrow and try to get 2 in somehow! Does anybody have the 411 on club Bahamas? I searched the forum to no avail, their website makes them seem pretty legit.Well, here's my write-up of my experience there. Others have had their own. You can do a search on this thread to read.
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SinfullyKorean
06-21-21, 03:20
REALLY wanted to get a report for you guys tonight but the day just got away from me and I can't muster up the oompf to go out there and get laid. Man I even got dressed, threw on some cologne and everything LOL! I think part of it is that I don't want to be out too late here. Something about standing out in the cold in the empty street waiting for an uber just doesn't do it for me. Hell, half the restaurants are closed by 7 pm. I know its a reason but its no excuse when club Bahamas is open 24 h and is only 7 min ride away from where I stay.
No worries. I'll get started bright and early tomorrow and try to get 2 in somehow! Does anybody have the 411 on club Bahamas? I searched the forum to no avail, their website makes them seem pretty legit.LOL Take things at your own pace. Sao Paulo is a bit chilly, especially at night as the wind seems to pick up. As Cane also mentioned, don't take your safety for granted just because you're in SP, either.
I think you started your experience right, at Connection. They have the hottest selections. And if you're only there for a week, you're not going to have time to filter out for the best deals, anyways. From what I've read here, 700-800 R / HR at Scandallo doesn't sound bad for a short time visitor.
Don't forget to check out the clinicas, too! There are about 6 within walking distance of each other in Moema: Prime, Abbobora, Mirunas, Enjoy, 57 House Friend's Club, and Carinas (sorted by my preference). It might take about an HR to visit each one by foot. Staff changes each day, and some of the popular ones might be busy when you visit. So it's worth repeating even if you don't find someone attractive on a given day.
SinfullyKorean
06-21-21, 08:20
I've written plenty on the sessions I had, so in this post, I'll share my experience on planning the trip and the overall expenses. The people are some of the friendliest (been to Korea, Japan, Mexico, Canada, Thailand, and Vietnam). I thought I'd see machismo and even racism (because it's so common in the US), but I hardly noticed it. At the very least, learn these two phrases: Obrigado (thank you) and Desculpa (I'm sorry, or excuse me).
Flights
RT from LAX to SP was $534.50 on United, purchased for 42,758 chase rewards points. Chase also gave me 10% off on my hotel booking because I bought the plane ticket with points. The flight to and from SP via United was VERY pleasant. To SP, flight was about 35% capacity. I had a 3 seat window row all to myself for 10 hrs. On the way back, I had a 2 seat window row to myself for 9 hrs.
RT from SP to Rio was $40 airfare and $12 checked bag each way (which I didn't really need) for a total of $64. Plan on booking at least 3 weeks in advance for the best rates. $50 RT seems to be the regular price. For domestic flights, plan on getting to the airport about 1 to 1. 5 hrs in advance in case of language barriers, getting lost, security check, etc. I have this strange anxiety and stress until I pass security checks.
Cash Exchange
You probably won't need cash right away (unless you're taking a taxi, which everyone discourages). If you DO want to exchange it at the airport for a little peace of mind, be prepared to lose 25% value on your conversion rate.
Hotels
Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera Hotel
$38 a night after fees in a Double Deluxe Executive suite. Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera Hotel was SUPER convenient. Highly recommended for first time visitors. Internet speed was decent: 35 Mbps down, 10 Mbps up. Sound proofing was the best out of the 3 hotels I stayed in (Astoria in Rio, Tsue Palace in SP). It's within walking distance from 6 clinicas and club and next to the Ibirapuera mall. Ibirapuera mall has lots of shops, including 3 drug stores (you can get a PCR or antigen test on the 2nd floor: Drogaria Sao Paulo) and a currency exchange shop on the 3rd floor next to Itau bank. VIVO phone store (along with an English speaking manager) are also on the 3rd floor.
Astoria Palace (Copacabana)
$50 per night after fees. This hotel is in a very convenient location. It has the Copacabana club, MAB's, and Dolce Vita all within walking distance. Internet speed was slightly lower than Bourbon's. Breakfast was included, and I enjoyed it 2 days out of 4. They serve coffee, juices, fruits, yogurt, cereal, pastries (including the cheese bread), sausages, scrambled eggs, and quiche.
But you can tell the hotel's pretty old. Rooms are very small. It had an old mildew smell when I walked in. And the worst thing was the noise. At first, I was on the 6th floor and I could hear all the noise from the restaurants outside until about 12-1 AM. The next day, I told them about the noise and they moved me to the 13th floor (top most floor of the hotel rooms). Great, friendly service. But, now I could hear the elevator clanking every time it moved. It sounded like gym weights slamming against each other, until 1 AM-2 AM. One inconvenience was trying to find a market close by.
Tsue Palace Hotel
$40 per night. Found this place via AirBnb and just a few blocks away from the Bourbon hotel. It was nice and cozy. It has a a separated bedroom and living room, as well as a balcony. Internet was SUPER slow, 2 Mbps down and. 5 up. I asked the front desk what's up, and they told me that if I book via the hotel, the speed's faster (guess the hotel managed rooms are closer to the access point). Walls are very thin. I think they just don't have the insulation that blocks out noise. Instead, the walls are concrete and carry noise very well.
Lots of WGs seem to live here. Monthly rent is about R4000. I believe this includes housekeeping, internet, and utilities. Another ISGer told me he saw lots of WGs walking in and out as he sat in the lobby, when he stayed at Tsue Palace for a month. And as I was having dinner on my last day in SP at the restaurant next door (Terra Fruta), that buddy and I saw a very cute girl at another table. He asked her to join us for a bit. Turns out she also lived at Tsue Palace and told us she'll be headed to Scandallo after dinner. As I'm interested in short term leases, I asked her how much the rent is and she says R4100 per mo. I also verified later with the receptionist, who told me R4080 per mo.
Phone
You won't be able to get a new line at the airport, unless you have a CPF number. I had to go to the Ibirapuera mall, 3rd floor. VIVO for $10/ mo with 5 GB data. But my data wasn't available for 2 days. This is a major inconvenience since almost everything you need to do is with data (eg. Uber, google translate, scanning QR code and online menus). You can use Google translate offline mode. But it's easier to have the app automatically transcribe AND translate for you, without needing to type everything in (can you imagine asking someone to type in their answers for you on your phone? Some members have suggested Google Fi. But Google Fi service was not as good as Verizon for me in the US. Also, VIVO's equivalent plan from Google Fi would cost me $70 ($20 base + $50 for 5 GB data) vs VIVO's $10. Data recharge on VIVO is also relatively cheap. Anyways, once you get over the initial inconvenience, it works great.
Uber
Cost me $114 for 2 weeks. The most expensive trips were to the international airport ($10-$25) and Connection ($6-8) each way. Make sure you keep the windows rolled down and wear a mask inside UBER. Before you book your ride, there's an "agreement" clause in the app saying that you'll keep the window open (whenever possible) and you'll wear a mask. Drivers will rate you poorly if you don't.
Food
If you're eating in a restaurant every day, it'll probably cost you about $10-$20 per meal. $20 would be splurging. I found most of the food to be ok, nothing spectacular. Unfortunately, I don't think I tried any ethnic Brazilian foods this time.
Just returned from another week in Sao Paulo.
I stayed in Itaim Bibi, Transamerica Classic Victoria hotel. I ad ladies visit me at the hotel and they did need to sign in but during my late night rendezvous the gut working the desk would just wink and let her go up when I met them in the lobby. I made sure to tip him well when I left. Location was great for some really good food options in walking distance. Modern Momma Osteria is a great place for Italian food. No reservations but the vibe is good inside and out a lot of attractive girls waiting to get in and its great for couples or a date night. That 4 block radius has a Soho, NYC vibe at night IMO. While waiting for my table at Modern I went a good 5 minutes forgetting that I'm still in Brazil but I snapped out of that real quick.
Bradesco bank, Carrefour, supermarkets, 2 gelato places, and other hotels all really clumped together in a nice neighborhood with little boutiques for shopping etc. My favorite area that I have stayed in so far.
Private55 browsing and I decided to zap Camila to see if she was available. Beach blonde from Rio staying in Jardins but I asked her to come to me. I told her to come casual and she sure did LOL. Sneakers, no makeup and a denim romper and as soon as she walked in she tackled me. Half because she was cold and half because during the zap back and forth we were trading memes before she arrived. I always ty to break the ice with meme's with the younger ones. She is a talker though so I had to keep the agenda on track in certain spots to get her to stop talking at times LOL but even then talking with her was really fun and she speaks a little English.
After some small talk about music and we play danced a little and then proceeded to the bedroom. She definitely aims to please but I could tell she needs to be comfortable first. Beautiful naked tanned body with no enhancements from yoga and beach life. Physically she gives as much as she takes so the sex was amazing. She stayed for two hours and we grabbed lunch after.
She didn't get any of the point break references of course. Before her time LOL.
Finally after sinfullykorean's one man advocacy campaign for prives (LOL just kidding), I went to one.Wow she looks stunning. I plan on going to Rio solo for the first time end of July. Got some advice from sinfullykorean from his recent trip too. Plan is to go to SP in Sept depending on my experience in Rio.
Wow she looks stunning. I plan on going to Rio solo for the first time end of July. Got some advice from sinfullykorean from his recent trip too. Plan is to go to SP in Sept depending on my experience in Rio.To be fair, read my first post from a few days ago and the ensuing convo thread. Although I admit I'm starting to warm up a little bit, I feel like I'm still just "making the best of it" here in SP. Now contrast that with my Rio reports from 2016. Lets just say that so far, I'm still looking forward to Rio at the end of this week.
Wow she looks stunning. I plan on going to Rio solo for the first time end of July. Got some advice from sinfullykorean from his recent trip too. Plan is to go to SP in Sept depending on my experience in Rio.You can't / really shouldn't make a decision to go to Sao Paulo based on what you experience in Rio. Two very different cities where the game must be played differently in order to succeed. You really need to do both cities to see which one you like best. I enjoy both, and can no longer make a trip to Brazil without planning to visit each city.
SinfullyKorean
06-22-21, 04:49
You can't / really shouldn't make a decision to go to Sao Paulo based on what you experience in Rio. Two very different cities where the game must be played differently in order to succeed. You really need to do both cities to see which one you like best. I enjoy both, and can no longer make a trip to Brazil without planning to visit each city.Rio and SP are so different. If you like one or the other better, it says more about you (and your personal preferences) than it does about the city (not in a bad way. lol). Both have much to offer. I don't think I gave Rio a fair shot. I'd actually like to spend about 2 weeks in each cities on separate trips.
Rio and SP are so different. I'd actually like to spend about 2 weeks in each cities on separate trips.That's actually the plan since I'm only going for two weeks I didn't want to do 1 week in each city. I'd rather enjoy the city / culture and pace myself. What I'm more concerned about is the crime since I enjoy walking around which seems like a bad idea in some areas. But I will most likely go to SP in Sept.
The Critic
06-22-21, 08:38
I've written plenty on the sessions I had, so in this post, I'll share my experience on planning the trip and the overall expenses. The people are some of the friendliest (been to Korea, Japan, Mexico, Canada, Thailand, and Vietnam). I thought I'd see machismo and even racism (because it's so common in the US), but I hardly noticed it. At the very least, learn these two phrases: Obrigado (thank you) and Desculpa (I'm sorry, or excuse me).SK Your reporting (Format and Details) has been a delight to read. I am sure your intent was met to be very informative to newbies. Look forward to future reports of your next destinations.
Note. As mentioned there is no need to exchange money at the Airport. Anyone can get from GRU airport to your hotel cashless via UBER or use credit card at the Guarucoop Taxi Stand (https://www.gru.com.br/en/passenger/to-from-gru-airport/taxi). Then find appropriate ATM for funds.
Rio and SP are so different.....If you are a monger who likes to indulge in turistic activities then Rio is better. If you are a hardcore monger then you need to visit both cities.
......I think part of it is that I don't want to be out too late here. Something about standing out in the cold in the empty street waiting for an uber just doesn't do it for me. Hell, half the restaurants are closed by 7 pm. I know its a reason but its no excuse when club Bahamas is open 24 h and is only 7 min ride away from where I stay.Besides the fact that COVID is dampening the festivities, the weather can't be that bad. I've never found the Sao Paulo winter that harsh. It's like an autumn day in much of North America and Europe. You have to bring a jacket or coat.
If you are a monger who likes to indulge in turistic activities then Rio is better. If you are a hardcore monger then you need to visit both cities.Since I have a direct to Sao Paulo I decided to spend about a week in Rio and SP instead of two weeks in Rio. It'll give me an idea of whether to spend more time in one place or other in Sept. I have a feeling I'll be back. Now I will have to include some research on SP also. If anyone can PM me some tips or want to meet up end of July that would be awesome. Thanks.
The Critic
06-23-21, 01:10
Since I have a direct to Sao Paulo I decided to spend about a week in Rio and SP instead of two weeks in Rio. It'll give me an idea of whether to spend more time in one place or other in Sept. I have a feeling I'll be back. Now I will have to include some research on SP also. If anyone can PM me some tips or want to meet up end of July that would be awesome. Thanks.The past Five to Ten pages (going back at least Twenty pages in both RJ and SP forums even better) has lots of information to digest and the discussion of RJ vs SP has been discussed within those pages, including where to hone your monger craft. Visiting both is best and both are very different areas. Have fun and please post detailed reports so other can learn from your experience.
Besides the fact that COVID is dampening the festivities, the weather can't be that bad. I've never found the Sao Paulo winter that harsh. It's like an autumn day in much of North America and Europe. You have to bring a jacket or coat. AS indicated, it's wintertime in Brazil (SP&RJ) June-through-September (https://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/sao-paulo/southern-hemisphere-winter-begins-today-season-forecast-for-sao-paulo/). Temps can get ≤ 55F/12C and Day time generally warm. Bring a light to midweight coat/jacket for evening/night or be prepared to purchase one at mall. This holds true for RJ depending on where you're at wind coming off the water can really bring cool temperatures.
The only way to beat a shark at its own game is to be a shark of your own. Next time, tell her straightforward what you expect and how much you are willing to pay. Also, tell her that you will go upstairs on your own time and don't want to be pressured. Now she has a choice. Either stay with someone who is pretty much a sure thing or look for someone else. This way, she has to take a decision and the pressure is off your shoulders. She now has to entice you and work for it. In the end, if you and her don't click, she moves on if there is enough meat for her to pick and choose. If the supply of dudes are slim, she will stay.
Glad to hear Scandello is open till 4 am again. I will be hitting it up in my next trip in August.
Enjoyed reading all your reports and I appreciate your contributions.Great Advice!
I and some others have expressed some uneasiness about negotiating. It does take away some charm to the magic but I've always paid 500-600 BRL in Scandallo. I guess I personally don't go for the "hot model" type with all the surgery and tattoos. Nothing wrong with that as I do like it occasionally but I do like the natural girl next door look and usually those girls charge or don't negotiate that high since they know most guys go for the model girls and so they go for the 500 since they are also at a disadvantage because a guy can just look around and get any other 50+ girls in the club.
Most of these GND girls don't smoke or drink (just one or two at most) and I like that as cigarette / beer breath is a turn off for me personally.
I found that if you wait til 4 am or close to almost closing time (5 am) they'll take 500 no questions since they realistically won't be able to land another guy before closing time. I decided to go with a girl at 4:20 or so and they give you a yellow wristband so the staff know you sessioned late when you get out and you still get your 1 HR.
Also if you are lucky and the girl likes you or she actually does it just for fun you can get away for as low as 300 BRL (read a few posts from some lucky posters a few hundred pages ago so it can happen, not likely but luck favors the bold and brave).
Another thing.
When I went in January I didn't really speak to most of the girls at scadallo. I would just walk around and sit down at the restaurant and see the girls coming in and look for the one I wanted.
Other's can chime in on their thoughts but I didn't want to waste anyone's time just chatting up with a girl if I knew I wasn't 100% about the girl (from looks anyhow).
I didn't want to get any sob stories or pushy remarks if I ended up not sessioning with said girl and as a student of economics I don't want to deprive them of any actual customers while we're having our little chat. I would often see local brazilian guys talking to 2 or 4 girls at a time at a table but I guess that makes more sense to the girls since these guy can come back often so they don't mind chatting up to a guy who can be coming weekly compared to a foreigner who's only in town for a week. I remember coming back my third night at scandallo and none of the girls really piqued my interest so I walked over to this petite japa girl I sessioned with on my first night and told her if she wanted to chat a little and get some appetizer at the restaurant but she declined as she said she was working. Of course she didn't mind talking to a bazilian guy with 4 other girls who ended up not sessioning with any of them after like 2 hours.
One girl came up to me while I was eating at the restaurant asking if she can sit down and talk a bit. She was pretty but she seemed upset and I felt like I was going to get the sob stories and tear works and I was just trying to relax and eat in peace so I told her I was ok.
Another girl came up to me (twice) while I was just looking at the girls walking by at the club area deciding which girl I wanted and asked me if I just liked looking at girls like it was a crime LOL I was just drinking my coke and checking up on my stocks but it did seem pretty weird for her to call me out like that.
I guess I could have gotten a few girls zapp instead of just playing the waiting game but from my own personal experience and a few other posters, Sampa girls can be kinda cold as the few numbers I got from SP went dark and the one girl who I recently contacted trying to reconnect when I get back in Sep keeps making lame excuses like I lost my phone for 11 days and the texting is super generic.
Compared to the carioca girls who I've kept in contact with, they've been super warm and always sending pics and waiting for my arrival! I've tried to get a few back here in miami since I got a penthouse in south beach but apparently brazilians can't enter the US because of the Covid numbers.
Some posters have had great experiences with SP girls who didn't charge alot, were super friendly and traveled with so YMMV.
I'll get more numbers this time around and with the help of some local posters (PM if you'll be there in Sep, my porto is so rusty) I hope to try some non-pros (also is Hinge popular in Brazil like it is in the US or is tinder / bumble / okcupid more popular?
I'll up my reports when I get back as I've noticed alot of posters like a nice writer-eseque journal entry from a famous author with lots of wits and details type of reports and I'd be happy to oblige as I like to write as a hobby.
I just got caught up with currency exchange / lockdown / mistranslations and all the other non sense as a first timer coming to this great nation.
Keep up the good report and looking forward to people's thoughts.
Great Advice!
I and some others have expressed some uneasiness about negotiating. It does take away some charm to the magic but I've always paid 500-600 BRL in Scandallo. I guess I personally don't go for the "hot model" type with all the surgery and tattoos. Nothing wrong with that as I do like it occasionally but I do like the natural girl next door look and usually those girls charge or don't negotiate that high since they know most guys go for the model girls and so they go for the 500 since they are also at a disadvantage because a guy can just look around and get any other 50+ girls in the club.
.This is also my type. I don't go for "model" type. The last time I was in Scandello was in Jan 2020 before COVID hit Brazil. I took home a great little girl next door for the weekend and really enjoyed my time with her. Negotiation was easy and we hit it off well.
The next couple of times I avoided Scandello due to covid restrictions and just used PA. Still in contact with those girls and they keep asking when I am going to be in SP next.
My next trip is mid August and I have three days in SP so I plan on hitting up Scandello the first night and seeing what I can take home. According to my standards of course and barring any covid restrictions. This time, I am going to hang out and see if I can find a Japa. Those seem to be more of a challenge and I like a challenge.
Last time, I did too much in Rio in one night and I think it threw me off and by he time I got to SP, I just wasn't into the girl I was with because I think I was sexed out. This time, I plan on taking it easy in rio and rocking in Scandello.
CarpeDiem305
06-23-21, 05:07
It seems to be very difficult to find a airbnb that allows guests. Does anyone have some recommendations that allow it?
SinfullyKorean
06-23-21, 06:13
by he time I got to SP, I just wasn't into the girl I was with because I think I was sexed out.LOL. Right??
To be fair, read my first post from a few days ago and the ensuing convo thread. Although I admit I'm starting to warm up a little bit, I feel like I'm still just "making the best of it" here in SP. Now contrast that with my Rio reports from 2016. Lets just say that so far, I'm still looking forward to Rio at the end of this week.Keep an open mind. There are many of us who prefer Rio, but drop in to SP for work and some leisure.
It seems to be very difficult to find a airbnb that allows guests. Does anyone have some recommendations that allow it?You just have to message them straight up and ask them if they mind you bringing in girls to the place. Some will say yes and others will say no or charge a fee.
Read the house rules on the listings as most of the Airbnb plus or super host explicitly state that no guests are allowed beyond the check in guests at arrival. It sucks and makes the search a pain but trust me you don't want to be sneaking around girls and having issue with the host / condominium staff.
The hosts know they drill and why guys come to Brazil so it's not out of the ordinary to ask for such a request.
If the listings says no guests but the host says it's fine I would be wary as it can get complicated with the host and buildings policies. I would just steer away from those completely.
Other members have posted hotels that seem to be girl friendly and good value ($38 a night).
SP has tons of good hotels and it's one of it's charm. Good alternative.
Good luck.
This is also my type. I don't go for "model" type. The last time I was in Scandello was in Jan 2020 before COVID hit Brazil. I took home a great little girl next door for the weekend and really enjoyed my time with her. Negotiation was easy and we hit it off well.
The next couple of times I avoided Scandello due to covid restrictions and just used PA. Still in contact with those girls and they keep asking when I am going to be in SP next.
My next trip is mid August and I have three days in SP so I plan on hitting up Scandello the first night and seeing what I can take home. According to my standards of course and barring any covid restrictions. This time, I am going to hang out and see if I can find a Japa. Those seem to be more of a challenge and I like a challenge.
Last time, I did too much in Rio in one night and I think it threw me off and by he time I got to SP, I just wasn't into the girl I was with because I think I was sexed out. This time, I plan on taking it easy in rio and rocking in Scandello.I like the way you think (I'm not into Asian girls ordinarly but a brazilian Japa for some reason has it's charm on me like a nice Kobe steak, you don't have it often but you do remember it everytime you do).
Rio can be a real wonderland but I spent more money in SP with the insanely various great value clinicas all next to each other and then enjoying some luxury in scandalous.
Rio I actually enjoyed the beauty that God bestowed upon the land and marveled at his wonders. I actually felt like I was in a movie set where everyone is living so carelessly and cameras never turn off.
I wish you safe travels and great findings on your next voyage.
Besides the fact that COVID is dampening the festivities, the weather can't be that bad. I've never found the Sao Paulo winter that harsh. It's like an autumn day in much of North America and Europe. You have to bring a jacket or coat.I'm so excited when I'm in SP I hardly cogitate on the weather.
TiaVoyage25
06-23-21, 19:17
Next week I'll hit the ground in SP. I have immensely enjoyed reading Bearsi's reports as we seem to have similar values when it comes to the hobby. To paraphrase what he said in one of his posts, "I'm not flying 8 hours to fuck some average ass girls that I could back at home after a few drinks and spitting some game in a dive bar. " Being a young man myself, I have a quality dating life back at home so I'm not interested in banging 6's or 7's that hop in bed after a coffee date, dinner, and a night out. I'm searching for the 9's that I can only pull back at home after weeks or months of work.
My time in Rio (and Buzios) has been enjoyable as it truly is a beautiful city with great food and friendly people. The mongering scene is respectable but for my tastes I actually have to put in work a lot of the time to find what I am looking for, which I do not enjoy. I'm looking forward to the clinica scene of SP where I can be shown a line-up then move on if I'm not interested. I also would hate myself if I did not visit Scandallo.
My type is the fit branca was a shapely or big bundha. There are a few of those here in Rio, but honestly the non-pros fit this description more so that is where I have allocated a lot of efforts, unfortunately, because that defeats the purpose of a mongering trip. Nonetheless, I have found some that fit this description in the various termas and on BarraVIP. From what I've read, SP is full of these types of women as they all go there to make money. My Brazilian friends tell me that all the brancas are in the south of Brazil, so who knows, I may end up going farther and farther south until I'm at the border of Argentina begging them to let me in LOL! Please let me contribute to your shattered economy.
Probably staying in the Moema area so that I can walk to the clinicas. Planning on a hotel but if anyone has a specific airbnb recommendation, feel free to send a PM. From SK's reports I'm aware that Connections is a great place to go as well. I've done my research so am I missing anything in terms of where to go besides the various clinicas, Connections, and Scandallo?
My type is the fit branca was a shapely or big bundha. There are a few of those here in Rio, but honestly the non-pros fit this description more so that is where I have allocated a lot of efforts, unfortunately, because that defeats the purpose of a mongering trip. Nonetheless, I have found some that fit this description in the various termas and on BarraVIP. From what I've read, SP is full of these types of women as they all go there to make money. My Brazilian friends tell me that all the brancas are in the south of Brazil, so who knows, I may end up going farther and farther south until I'm at the border of Argentina begging them to let me in LOL! Please let me contribute to your shattered economy.Argentina is the land of big tits. Not big bunda. If you want big branca bunda, don't cross the border! Take it from one who knows.
SinfullyKorean
06-23-21, 19:31
From SK's reports I'm aware that Connections is a great place to go as well. I've done my research so am I missing anything in terms of where to go besides the various clinicas, Connections, and Scandallo?One thing to keep in mind is that when I went to Connection, Scandallo closed at 9 PM. So lots of talent from Scandallo went to Connection that week. But now that Scandallo is open until 4 AM, I doubt that's the case anymore. It might still be worth visiting, as the scene seems to be much free spirited in Connection (e. G. Making out, grabbing tits, etc).
Steve 9696
06-23-21, 20:57
One thing to keep in mind is that when I went to Connection, Scandallo closed at 9 PM. So lots of talent from Scandallo went to Connection that week. But now that Scandallo is open until 4 AM, I doubt that's the case anymore. It might still be worth visiting, as the scene seems to be much free spirited in Connection (e. G. Making out, grabbing tits, etc).I have no idea how closing at 9 works no wonder people said it was lame. Pre-Covid SP does not START until 11 earliest. If U show at 10 you will be lonely. At 12 it's in full swing and goes to morning.
When I did my first crazy 5 venues in 24 hrs in 2018, I left Scandalo after Karina around 330 Am and went to Casarao (currently closed). Did Carolina and exited the LH at 6 AM and people were still partying in the streets.
The later the better for the most part. 10 is def early.
Connections did sound fun but I think if ur DFKing a girl for a long time u need to have a plan to go to the room. Seems unfair otherwise. But maybe that’s just me. At both Bomboa and Scandalo I’ve had girls stroking my cock — but not so overt. Josie even had hands down pants right there in the bar at 430. It worked BTW. LOL.
Argentina is the land of big tits. Not big bunda. If you want big branca bunda, don't cross the border! Take it from one who knows.For what it's worth and IMHO (from my limited encounters, mainly in Buzios), they aren't as affectionate or as friendly as Brasileiras. YMMV.
Vagabundo1
06-24-21, 02:21
True.
A man could live out his life in Rio, a microcosm of hookers on all points on the spectrum.
From the ruiva you did last night (and which I will have to try. The wench did not give me her number hahaah).
To the negras, like that bel prazer negra who used to be a 4 x 4 in 2017.
Run down, kinda fucked up, as it is, Rio has it all.
For what it's worth and IMHO (from my limited encounters, mainly in Buzios), they aren't as affectionate or as friendly as Brasileiras. YMMV.
Jimmy Boy 99
06-24-21, 04:49
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-06/24/c_1310024861.htm
"SAO PAULO, June 23 (Xinhua) -- Brazil's southeast state of Sao Paulo on Wednesday announced that its lockdown measures would be prolonged until July 15 in a bid to reduce infections and hospital occupation, and advance vaccination.
"Due to the high rates of pandemic cases, hospitalizations and deaths, we will follow the recommendations of our team of scientists to extend the collective care measures," Joao Doria, governor of Sao Paulo, told reporters at a press conference.
Lockdown measures include a 9:00 pm To 5:00 am Curfew, and a 40-percent cap on capacity at restaurants and shopping centers.
Doria warned the outbreak was on the rise, with a daily average of 17,000 new cases of infection and 500 deaths. ".
Anyone have more info on this? 9 PM curfew is going to put a damper on nightlife there.
Next week I'll hit the ground in SP. I have immensely enjoyed reading Bearsi's reports as we seem to have similar values when it comes to the hobby. To paraphrase what he said in one of his posts, "I'm not flying 8 hours to fuck some average ass girls that I could back at home after a few drinks and spitting some game in a dive bar. " Being a young man myself, I have a quality dating life back at home so I'm not interested in banging 6's or 7's that hop in bed after a coffee date, dinner, and a night out. I'm searching for the 9's that I can only pull back at home after weeks or months of work.
My time in Rio (and Buzios) has been enjoyable as it truly is a beautiful city with great food and friendly people. The mongering scene is respectable but for my tastes I actually have to put in work a lot of the time to find what I am looking for, which I do not enjoy. I'm looking forward to the clinica scene of SP where I can be shown a line-up then move on if I'm not interested. I also would hate myself if I did not visit Scandallo.
My type is the fit branca was a shapely or big bundha. There are a few of those here in Rio, but honestly the non-pros fit this description more so that is where I have allocated a lot of efforts, unfortunately, because that defeats the purpose of a mongering trip. Nonetheless, I have found some that fit this description in the various termas and on BarraVIP. From what I've read, SP is full of these types of women as they all go there to make money. My Brazilian friends tell me that all the brancas are in the south of Brazil, so who knows, I may end up going farther and farther south until I'm at the border of Argentina begging them to let me in LOL! Please let me contribute to your shattered economy.
Probably staying in the Moema area so that I can walk to the clinicas. Planning on a hotel but if anyone has a specific airbnb recommendation, feel free to send a PM. From SK's reports I'm aware that Connections is a great place to go as well. I've done my research so am I missing anything in terms of where to go besides the various clinicas, Connections, and Scandallo?Glad to hear my reports were enjoyed! I do not hobby as much or as extravagantly as other posters on here (just 1 trip a year and I only do so in foreign countries as I do not like to shit where I eat) I definitely like to explore every new city and see what it has to offer culturally and historically. I never go to the same country again as I like to explore new territory but Brazil has made me break this rule as it truly has so many great things going for it and the rewards are ripe for the picking for those who venture for it!
Montreal also almost made me break my rule but after covid it's been shutdown since the beginning of 2020 and it's been no man's land for quite some time. I have a soft spot for the young quebec french college girls that roam the city and it's a cheap flight for americans but it does pale to Brazil. The whole landscape has changed since the lockdown as they really relied on the american mongers so I wonder how it will look like once travel is back to normal.
I would also check out Bomboa, cafe photo and lotus club (the last two has seen some decline as the owners parted ways and made their own clubs so it's still a hit or miss from what I read but has the same structure that scandallo has but a bit cheaper).
My mistake was not checking out the other boates and only going to scandallo but most of the top girls went there anyways so I feel like I wasn't missing much. Code red lockdown made things much harder for me so it was mess to start with but these other boates I've heard great reports. Scandallo is your best bet for fit brancas with big bunda.
The clinicas are a must for day time mongering and there are so many to choose from and nearby to each other you will find something. Don't forget to add their numbers to your zapp and ask them to add you to their list so you can see which girls will be there daily.
There are some local posters who live in SP and they might be able to help you get some non pros as SP has a great bar / night scene so that can be interesting.
Enjoy your journey and looking forward to your reports.
lockdown measures would be prolonged until July 15 ... Anyone have more info on this? 9 PM curfew is going to put a damper on nightlife there.That doesn't seem right. SinfullyKorean said Connection was open past 9 pm and Scandallo was open until 4 AM now a few posts before yours. I will be going around that time so hopefully nothing changes.
SinfullyKorean
06-24-21, 06:09
That doesn't seem right. SinfullyKorean said Connection was open past 9 pm and Scandallo was open until 4 AM now a few posts before yours. I will be going around that time so hopefully nothing changes.I doubt Connection and Scandallo are open legally. They've probably bribed officials. At 9 PM, Scandallo moves the outdoor area into their garden area. I assume to reduce noise and visibility. Also, when you exit, if you're taking Uber, they suggest you wait inside until your Uber arrives. Then they walk you out, and unlock the door for you as you leave.
TiaVoyage25
06-26-21, 04:31
I would also check out Bomboa, cafe photo and lotus club (the last two has seen some decline as the owners parted ways and made their own clubs so it's still a hit or miss from what I read but has the same structure that scandallo has but a bit cheaper).
My mistake was not checking out the other boates and only going to scandallo but most of the top girls went there anyways so I feel like I wasn't missing much. Code red lockdown made things much harder for me so it was mess to start with but these other boates I've heard great reports. Scandallo is your best bet for fit brancas with big bunda.
The clinicas are a must for day time mongering and there are so many to choose from and nearby to each other you will find something. Don't forget to add their numbers to your zapp and ask them to add you to their list so you can see which girls will be there daily.
There are some local posters who live in SP and they might be able to help you get some non pros as SP has a great bar / night scene so that can be interesting.Duly noted on all of the above! Thanks to your reports, SKs, and others', I feel quite prepared for my trip to SP. Great idea on getting the lineup at clinicas too. That will definitely save me some time so I don't have to wander to each one daily. Between the clinicas, boates, and quality escort sites like Private55, MClass, BarraVIPs, and SPLove, it is sure to be a good time. I am trying to find a porn star too so I'll be browsing twitter daily to find one!
SinfullyKorean
06-26-21, 06:04
Duly noted on all of the above! Thanks to your reports, SKs, and others', I feel quite prepared for my trip to SP. Great idea on getting the lineup at clinicas too. That will definitely save me some time so I don't have to wander to each one daily. Between the clinicas, boates, and quality escort sites like Private55, MClass, BarraVIPs, and SPLove, it is sure to be a good time. I am trying to find a porn star too so I'll be browsing twitter daily to find one!Best of luck in SP. I'm sure you'll have a blast. I've enjoyed your reports and look forward to your SP reports!
EverythingBlue
06-26-21, 16:33
After reading quite a few pages and all the great experiences I just booked my flight, planning on being in SP Aug. 25 through Sept. 4. My first solo mongering trip, hoping I can meet some fellow mongers on the ground at the time too (I purchased a subscription here so I can hopefully PM).
My plans are to visit the boates, definitely Scandallo and Connection. Also the clinics in the Moema area, like Prime and Abbobora, maybe others. I plan on using some of the online escort services too, like barrasvip or private55 to bring some talent to my hotel or even do some local incall.
Only two things left to figure out:
1) Should I make a quick trip to Rio while in SP?
2) Which hotel should I stay at? Based on my reading I'm targeting Moema or Jardins area. I would prefer something a little upscale where I can bring guests without issues, I'm not too worried about saving a lot of money, I'm giving priority to convenience, location, and quality. Any feedback is appreciated.
I look forward to sharing my experience when the time comes, really appreciate everyone that contributes here, your info is invaluable.
After reading quite a few pages and all the great experiences I just booked my flight, planning on being in SP Aug. 25 through Sept. 4. My first solo mongering trip, hoping I can meet some fellow mongers on the ground at the time too (I purchased a subscription here so I can hopefully PM).
My plans are to visit the boates, definitely Scandallo and Connection. Also the clinics in the Moema area, like Prime and Abbobora, maybe others. I plan on using some of the online escort services too, like barrasvip or private55 to bring some talent to my hotel or even do some local incall.
Only two things left to figure out:
1) Should I make a quick trip to Rio while in SP?
2) Which hotel should I stay at? Based on my reading I'm targeting Moema or Jardins area. I would prefer something a little upscale where I can bring guests without issues, I'm not too worried about saving a lot of money, I'm giving priority to convenience, location, and quality. Any feedback is appreciated.
I look forward to sharing my experience when the time comes, really appreciate everyone that contributes here, your info is invaluable.I can recommend Bourbon Convention Center Hotel or Mercure Times Square in Moema.
After reading quite a few pages and all the great experiences I just booked my flight, planning on being in SP Aug. 25 through Sept. 4. My first solo mongering trip, hoping I can meet some fellow mongers on the ground at the time too (I purchased a subscription here so I can hopefully PM).
My plans are to visit the boates, definitely Scandallo and Connection. Also the clinics in the Moema area, like Prime and Abbobora, maybe others. I plan on using some of the online escort services too, like barrasvip or private55 to bring some talent to my hotel or even do some local incall.
Only two things left to figure out:
1) Should I make a quick trip to Rio while in SP?
2) Which hotel should I stay at? Based on my reading I'm targeting Moema or Jardins area. I would prefer something a little upscale where I can bring guests without issues, I'm not too worried about saving a lot of money, I'm giving priority to convenience, location, and quality. Any feedback is appreciated.
I look forward to sharing my experience when the time comes, really appreciate everyone that contributes here, your info is invaluable.I generally tell people that if their trip is for over a week, they should try to visit both cities as it's so easy and cheap to travel from one to the other. And they are also quite different (but great) cities for our hobby. Keep in mind that in August it probably won't be beach weather in Rio.
The Renaissance on Alameda Santos would be a nice upscale choice. Moema, around Parque Ibirapuera, or close to Ave Paulista are generally good areas to stay in. I've also heard good things around Marriott Executive Apartments, though I haven't stayed there (yet).
If you decide to include Rio in your itinerary, try to fly between the two cities using the local airports. Congonhas in SP and Santos Dumont in Rio. Will save you time and hassle.
EverythingBlue
06-26-21, 21:18
I can recommend Bourbon Convention Center Hotel or Mercure Times Square in Moema.Thanks! Those two were on my radar based on prior reports, just needing some confirmation. BTW, your positive reports with Brancas affirmed my decision to book, since that is my main preference! I have not been able to experience a Branca before, so I can't wait. I hope my lack of Portuguese doesn't limit my choices, or that I get lucky and find one I can communicate in English or Spanish. If not Google Translate to the rescue? Never tried to have a conversation with someone like that before though.
I generally tell people that if their trip is for over a week, they should try to visit both cities as it's so easy and cheap to travel from one to the other. And they are also quite different (but great) cities for our hobby.
If you want something upscale, I suggest the Renaissance on Alameda Santos. IMO anywhere in Moema or around Parque Ibirapuera or close to Ave Paulista is a good location.
If you decide to include Rio in your itinerary, try to fly between the two cities using the local airports. Congonhas in SP and Santos Dumont in Rio. Will save you time and hassle.I'll look at those choices too! Thanks. I figured I would spend the first 3-4 days in SP, then head to Rio on Sunday, I believe everything is closed Sunday's though. Then head back to SP for a couple of days prior to departure back to the States.
I don't know if this happened to some, but after reading some of the reports here, suddenly the interest in reaching out to locals here in the States feels like a waste, and that's without actually having been to Brazil yet. I don't mean just waste in money (thousands), but also service quality seems to be lower here compared to most reports in Brazil.
2) Which hotel should I stay at? Based on my reading I'm targeting Moema or Jardins area. I would prefer something a little upscale where I can bring guests without issues, I'm not too worried about saving a lot of money, I'm giving priority to convenience, location, and quality. I always stay at the Renaissance on Alameda Santos. It is close to pharmacies to get your return covid test, there are three small supermarkets within a 5 minute walk for your everyday needs, a lot of restaurants nearby and it is completely safe to walk around at night.
Ubers are plentiful and the hotel has never said anything to me about bringing guests. I always book for two guests when I make the reservation so they can't charge me for a guest. Sometime I will book three if I plan a dupla before I get to the SP.
SinfullyKorean
06-27-21, 04:09
After reading quite a few pages and all the great experiences I just booked my flight, planning on being in SP Aug. 25 through Sept. 4. My first solo mongering trip, hoping I can meet some fellow mongers on the ground at the time too (I purchased a subscription here so I can hopefully PM).
My plans are to visit the boates, definitely Scandallo and Connection. Also the clinics in the Moema area, like Prime and Abbobora, maybe others. I plan on using some of the online escort services too, like barrasvip or private55 to bring some talent to my hotel or even do some local incall.
Only two things left to figure out:
1) Should I make a quick trip to Rio while in SP?
2) Which hotel should I stay at? Based on my reading I'm targeting Moema or Jardins area. I would prefer something a little upscale where I can bring guests without issues, I'm not too worried about saving a lot of money, I'm giving priority to convenience, location, and quality.#1 hotel preference: Bourbon Convention. Bourbon is pretty classy and a bargain. It's located in the heart of Moema. Next to the Ibirapuera Mall (got my covid test done here for $22), some markets, restaurants, and coin laundromat. Best of all, it's within walking distance to at least 6 clinicas and sex clubs. Internet speed was decent for me. Noise level was the quietest of the 3 places I stayed in in Brazil. Room keycard is needed to operate the elevator.
#2: Tsue Palace. Just 3 blocks away from Bourbon. A little closer to the clinicas. Still walking distance from everything. I recommend this place because it seems like several WGs live here, so I don't think escorts or LT girls you call over will have to sign in. Room keycard is not needed to operate the elevator. So girls can just go directly to your room. And, you can just sit in the lobby and check out the cute garotas walking by.
As for going to Rio, it will be a nice experience, but you'll barely get a taste of the action. I also only spent 3 days hobbying before going back to SP. It was worth it just to get a taste, but I think spending at least a week there would've been optimal. Just remember that Sunday is probably going to be a wash. I think you can still check out some Copacabana boates. Definitely visit the prives if you go to Rio.
I've met plenty of KBs that provide great service in the states. But I haven't had interest in visiting since I returned from Rio. I'm going to hold out as long as I can, or until I hear of a DDG KB.
...........I figured I would spend the first 3-4 days in SP, then head to Rio on Sunday, I believe everything is closed Sunday's though. Then head back to SP for a couple of days prior to departure back to the States.A few days in Rio is a bit of a rush, but it can be done. You simply hit the main termas and boates. There's not too much time for exploring prives and tourist stuff. If you have a nice sunny morning or afternoon just chilling, take in the view from Corcovado.
A Sunday in Rio is more manageable if you are there a few days beforehand. It's an off day for the termas girls. Hence, you can make arrangements to meet Sunday on the days just before. All is not lost. As someone noted, you can try to find someone in the Copa boates.
If you think you will go back, you might be better off spending this trip in only Sao Paulo.
TiaVoyage25
06-28-21, 17:48
Now on ground in Sao Paulo. Reports will start to flow in shortly.
Before they do, I just have one more question to help facilitate my schedule. I'm aware that going to Scandallo after 10 PM is best, however, which are the best days to go?
I'm aware that going to Scandallo after 10 PM is best, however, which are the best days to go?I remember other members have said Thursday is the best during normal time.
Polyamorist
06-29-21, 00:26
uber takes extra long because after the first guy cancels (at the last minute) traffic will delay you past double the ETA anywaySalaam ShawMan, I think you were a bit too quick to dismiss Sao Paulo in general, but I agree that Uber can be a hassle. A couple of years ago the service in Brazil was very reliable, but recently I have seen a big increase in little scams and disrespectful behavior. It seems like the bad half of Uber drivers started organizing among themselves and figuring out ways to cheat the system -- to the detriment of the passengers. Unfortunately Uber management seems unable or unwilling to keep this under control, with perverse incentives encouraging bad behavior.
If Uber fails you, you can try alternatives like 99 and inDriver. Unfortunately they are often afflicted by the same problems. A lot of drivers are fine honest folk, but when you call a car, it's the luck of the draw and the ratings mean little.
I remember other members have said Thursday is the best during normal time.I've had a fine time on Friday and Saturday nights at Scandallo as well. Place packed out!
SinfullyKorean
06-29-21, 01:45
Now on ground in Sao Paulo. Reports will start to flow in shortly.
Before they do, I just have one more question to help facilitate my schedule. I'm aware that going to Scandallo after 10 PM is best, however, which are the best days to go?I was told by the girls working there that Tuesday is good and gets better until Thurs. I went on Wednesday and was impressed with the talent.
TiaVoyage25
06-29-21, 19:28
Gentlemen, this is the first of my trip reports for SP adventures. Bear with me as I am still learning the lay of the land here.
I arrived on Sunday and got checked in. I immediately took care of logistics: finding an ATM that works (Bradesco is the only one that works for my card), getting some toiletries from the drogueria, and purchasing a sweater since the weather here is a little cooler than Rio. I also walked around a bit to get my bearings and have a "feel" for where I am. No mongering was done this day.
Started off Monday with a tour. And by that I mean a visit to various clinicas. Prime had good quality but I did not session because I wanted to check out other places. I made it to Abbobora before I realized that I was missing Euro Cup games. Sorry gentlemen, I had to dip out to go watch. As some members can attest to, I'll quite literally stop mongering to watch a game I want to see. We were in the middle of 4 x4 and I decided to go to the downstairs bar to watch a game. We all have different priorities, gentlemen.
After, I took a taxi on over to Tangara where I noticed they had a decent selection but the girls didn't look particularly motivated. Another board member had PM'd me a recommendation of a place he speaks highly of so I went to check them out as well. This particular place seemed pretty good and I found a couple of the girls attractive, but I decided not to session. Contributing members, feel free to PM me and I will share this location with you. They also post which girls are working daily on their website so you can see in advance. It is not walking distance from Moema, so you will have to Uber.
I went back to Moema and had dinner. After dinner, I walked around a bit more and saw on Enjoy's website that they don't close until midnight. I got there around 1015 PM and it was closed. Walking back, I passed by Bahamas club and there were a lot of cars out front. I heard girls laughing from the patio and debated going in so I pulled out my phone, read some quick reviews, but ultimately decided against it. As it was getting late, I didn't want to risk not being able to contact an online escort so I kept moving along. I passed by what I thought would be 57 club, but either it is closed or it is in a different place than the address off of Chanes. All I saw was a car dealership and an open gravel lot. Perhaps it is somewhere to the side of the gravel lot?
I went back to my hotel and reached out to several online escorts. I linked up with a girl from M Class around midnight and had a good time at her place. There is a strange thing here though that when you check in to a front desk at certain residential buildings, they want your ID, an actual photo of you, and a phone number. From what I've read they sometimes do a fingerprint scan. This never happened in Rio where I was just announced by the name I gave and continued on. Must be an SP thing. The session was good but nothing to write about. Friendly girl who wanted to show me various types of Brazilian music after we were done. Paid for an hour but ended up hanging out for 30 minutes longer talking about music. I went back to my hotel, took a shower, and passed out until noon!
I have not sessioned yet this Tuesday as I have been watching the games and also want to enjoy Scandallo to the fullest. I plan to head over there around 8 or so, eat dinner, relax, and then observe the talent. I plan to just get a taste of it today with one session but this coming Thursday I may go all out with a couple girls in a big suite. We shall see!
Other misc. Notes:
SK can confirm, but walking around the Moema area seems pretty safe. This is completely different than Rio where I was constantly looking over my shoulder. I saw people here, late night, walking with their phones out, headphones in, etc. People leave their bikes unchained and I even saw a moped behind the gate to someone's house just left out. Whereas everything is chained down in Rio, people here seem to just lock the door or close a gate rather than have multiple methods of security. I obviously wouldn't, and won't, extend this assessment to all of SP, but my initial thoughts are that Moema is a nicer and safer area.
I was going to check out some of the other boates in the area but didn't want to waste my time if they were closed. After checking google, it seems like Lotus Club might be closed? I'll keep doing my research because I do enjoy the night club scene if the place is decently classy and has rooms on site. I'm not trying to go all the way to Scandallo every night. I think I'll probably go there 3-4 times to experience the full of it, but want to see other places as well. Connection seems so far away!
SinfullyKorean
06-30-21, 04:08
I went back to my hotel and reached out to several online escorts. I linked up with a girl from M Class around midnight and had a good time at her place. There is a strange thing here though that when you check in to a front desk at certain residential buildings, they want your ID, an actual photo of you, and a phone number. From what I've read they sometimes do a fingerprint scan. This never happened in Rio where I was just announced by the name I gave and continued on. Must be an SP thing. The session was good but nothing to write about. Friendly girl who wanted to show me various types of Brazilian music after we were done. Paid for an hour but ended up hanging out for 30 minutes longer talking about music. I went back to my hotel, took a shower, and passed out until noon!
Other misc. Notes:
SK can confirm, but walking around the Moema area seems pretty safe. This is completely different than Rio where I was constantly looking over my shoulder. I saw people here, late night, walking with their phones out, headphones in, etc. People leave their bikes unchained and I even saw a moped behind the gate to someone's house just left out. Whereas everything is chained down in Rio, people here seem to just lock the door or close a gate rather than have multiple methods of security. I obviously wouldn't, and won't, extend this assessment to all of SP, but my initial thoughts are that Moema is a nicer and safer area.
I was going to check out some of the other boates in the area but didn't want to waste my time if they were closed. After checking google, it seems like Lotus Club might be closed? I'll keep doing my research because I do enjoy the night club scene if the place is decently classy and has rooms on site. I'm not trying to go all the way to Scandallo every night. I think I'll probably go there 3-4 times to experience the full of it, but want to see other places as well. Connection seems so far away!Glad to hear you're enjoying SP. I really like the cleanliness, safety, and convenience of Moema. I completely agree with Moema being safe. I walked around plenty of times after sunset and after 9 pm without feeling threatened in any way. It is slightly chillier than Rio, especially at night and when there's wind.
You may want to check out Connection for the novelty of it. Things are a little more free in Connection (with mutual touching, kissing) than in Scandallo. Prices were slightly lower, too. But your main playground will probably be Scandallo. My main playground was the clinicas.
As for the whole check-in process for apartments, I went through the same thing in Rio when I went up to a prive (Onix). I did visit an apartment in Jardin once, and was confused a bit by their appointment and check in process. But it was basically the same thing you mentioned.
I'm looking forward to hearing about the rest of your adventures, as I dream about my next vaca to Brazil.
Vagabundo1
06-30-21, 04:42
Barra is like moema.
That security thing in SP is consistent with being unable to get a registered chip for a 11 phone. It is a security thing. Crime is probably crazy high in that dense, urban environment. How many murders per capita, etc?
Gentlemen, this is the first of my trip reports for SP adventures. Bear with me as I am still learning the lay of the land here.
I arrived on Sunday and got checked in. I immediately took care of logistics: finding an ATM that works (Bradesco is the only one that works for my card), getting some toiletries from the drogueria, and purchasing a sweater since the weather here is a little cooler than Rio. I also walked around a bit to get my bearings and have a "feel" for where I am. No mongering was done this day.
Started off Monday with a tour. And by that I mean a visit to various clinicas. Prime had good quality but I did not session because I wanted to check out other places. I made it to Abbobora before I realized that I was missing Euro Cup games. Sorry gentlemen, I had to dip out to go watch. As some members can attest to, I'll quite literally stop mongering to watch a game I want to see. We were in the middle of 4 x4 and I decided to go to the downstairs bar to watch a game. We all have different priorities, gentlemen.
After, I took a taxi on over to Tangara where I noticed they had a decent selection but the girls didn't look particularly motivated. Another board member had PM'd me a recommendation of a place he speaks highly of so I went to check them out as well. This particular place seemed pretty good and I found a couple of the girls attractive, but I decided not to session. Contributing members, feel free to PM me and I will share this location with you. They also post which girls are working daily on their website so you can see in advance. It is not walking distance from Moema, so you will have to Uber.
TiaVoyage25
06-30-21, 23:24
As a child I read books on the Lost City of Atlantis. It fascinated me, as I believed that this magical land was paradise. Heaven on Earth. Over time I came to realize that this place was not a legend, but rather, a myth. My childish dreams of one day finding Atlantis were quashed, conveniently around the same time I found out Santa wasn't real.
Fast forward a couple decades and I find myself in a hotel room in Sao Paulo, drinking a couple of beers, and watching the EuroCup. I am excited to check out this nightclub I keep hearing about, a place called Scandallo. After the games end, I decide to take care of some work before hopping in an Uber. Around 9 PM I arrive at the doors of Scandallo, unaware of what I had just found.
Gentlemen, Atlantis does exist. But, it has a different name now: Scandallo.
I walk in at the same time as one of the most beautiful women I have seen during my time in Brazil. I register at the front desk and head on over to the elevator. When the doors opened, I was not greeted by golden fountains or waterfalls, but rather, golden Brazilian pussy. Pulling my jaw off the floor as to not look like a complete amateur, I wander over to a waiter and ask him to find me a table in the restaurant.
Scandallo's layout is quite convenient. Once one exits the elevator, you are in a sort of cafe area with a bar on the right hand side. Past this bar is a massive restaurant / club space. Picture a Vegas style restaurant with large TV screens and a bar lining the wall. There are two outdoor areas, one of which has its own bar as well.
I sit down in the restaurant and behold heaven on Earth. While there were around 70 or so ladies in the place around 9 PM, this number would grow to over 100 by 11 PM. At closing (4 AM), there were still 50 or so ladies of the night running around flaunting their wares.
By my assessment, I'd say that the average here was between 8-8. 5. If there were 100 women in the club, I wouldn't have fucked maybe 10 of them. Another 20 were merely ok by my standards, 50 were in the 7-9 range, and roughly 20 were in what I would consider the 9-9. 9 range (no such thing as a perfect 10 in my books).
Of course, every single one of the bottom 10 that I wouldn't session with approached me over the course of the night. I politely sent them on their way. I'd estimate that 70% of the girls I talked to spoke English well enough to have a conversation. A few were actually fluent. Most of the girls here dress classy enough that if you wanted to bring them back to your hotel, they wouldn't necessarily raise eye brows. Designer purses abound. Their phones are put away as they are here to work (or the club doesn't let them have them LOL).
Here is where great goes to bad. Gentlemen, I must admit that I broke my own rule. I generally do not bring pros back to my hotel because I enjoy my personal space and also do not trust them. The women at Scandallo were so amazing that I was willing to break this rule, and did. Back at my hotel, the beautiful mid-20's spinner begins with a phenomenal show of oral gymnastics. She is highly receptive to feedback (speaks fluent English) and is thoroughly committed to the cause. When she takes off her skirt, however, a terrible thing happens: a smell unleashes that has effectively given me PTSD. I do not even want to describe it in detail here, but we all know what I am talking about: (long) expired fish and unwashed ass.
I feign a finish within a matter of a minute, burn the condom (read: seal it in a bag, then throw it in another bag), decontaminate (shower for a very long time), and metaphorically cry myself to sleep (though literally doing so in this case would be justified). The girl was going to spend the night but I had to kick her out, although I did so in a very nice way. I paid her what I was going to pay her for the whole night / next day (R1000) which was negotiated beforehand. She didn't ask for this amount since I cut the session short, but I was craving a shower in the worst way and just wanted to get her out immediately. As the sun came up, my heart went down. A single tear rolled down my cheek as I couldn't figure out how to open the window of my hotel room. Luckily I have 2 beds.
Despite this horrific setback, I have a lot of positive things to say about Scandallo. If I could visit only one place for the rest of my life for the hobby, this would be it. I don't care if I blow through the rest of my trip's budget at Scandallo alone because it is that good. I will be going back several times before my departure.
A few notes:
1.) The girls will always cite R1000 for an hour and they will (almost) always take less than that. Way less. Especially later in the night when they just want to get some business. There's something for everyone here, though the demographic is mostly slim brancas. It's like the club took the most attractive women of every body type / look / skin tone in Brazil and placed them here.
2.) I believe it was The Cane who said to show up at 10 pm or later unless you want to eat dinner. I would propose that one show up even later, perhaps closer to 11 or 12. If you want to show up at 10, definitely sit in the cafe area and watch the girls come up through the elevator. First peek at the talent before anyone else.
3.) Entry is R300 with a R150 food / beverage credit. You will blow through that credit quickly. Perhaps show up a little bit buzzed and order yourself a drink or two, as well as the girls you want to talk with. Drinks are expensive by Brazil's standards (R70 for a single mixed drink).
4.) Girls will ask you if you want company, similar to how they do in a termas but without the ball grabbing. Only 1 incredibly mediocre girl wouldn't take no for an answer. I had to literally tell her to walk away or I would tell a waiter that she was being unprofessional. This was after she asked me to buy her a drink. Sometimes you just have to put your foot down, even in a place like Scandallo.
5.) When in the presence of stank pussy, ensure you have an exit plan, a second bed, and a working window.
Member #4698
07-01-21, 01:32
TiaVoyage, I feel your pain man. There is nothing worse than smelly pussy. Your story reminds of a night I had at Rose Bar in Phnom Penh back '09. I was attracted to 2 smoking hot Khmer girls and could not decide on which one to take upstairs, so I took both. I showered with one of the girls, but the other one held back and stayed in the bedroom. When the fist girl and I came out of the bathroom and went to the bed I knew why. The 2nd girl had SMELLY PUSSY really bad. I could not fuck her / could not kiss her, but I did let her blow me. Then the first girl and I had a great time. Afterwards I gave each girl $20 the going rate back then.
A couple of nights later I went back to Rose Bar because I liked the 1st girl a lot. Both girls were sitting together. I bought them drinks and then took the first girl upstairs and did her 3 times in a row (Shower, BJ, Boom Boom, shower, BJ, Boom Boom and same same one more time. I really liked this one. And this was before I started taking Viagra too. Afterwards I gave her $25, and we went back to the bar to drink a little with the smelly girl.
Thankfully, I do not come across smelly pussy very often, but when I do the question arises: should I tell the girl or not. LOL. I do not say anything, but clearly my actions speak volumes. Anyway, back to you: at this point there is only one thing you can do: go back to Scandallo as soon as possible and do at least 2 hot girls in-house to cleanse your mind of the previous evening's experience.
Great report, nonetheless.
NB.
Here is where great goes to bad. Gentlemen, I must admit that I broke my own rule. I generally do not bring pros back to my hotel because I enjoy my personal space and also do not trust them. The women at Scandallo were so amazing that I was willing to break this rule, and did. Back at my hotel, the beautiful mid-20's spinner begins with a phenomenal show of oral gymnastics. She is highly receptive to feedback (speaks fluent English) and is thoroughly committed to the cause. When she takes off her skirt, however, a terrible thing happens: a smell unleashes that has effectively given me PTSD. I do not even want to describe it in detail here, but we all know what I am talking about: (long) expired fish and unwashed ass.
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Now that I have gotten over that thought. Wonder how she didn't realize that it smelled that bad. What a total letdown after all that work. I would have been fucking pissed 🤬.
As a child I read books on the Lost City of Atlantis. It fascinated me, as I believed that this magical land was paradise. Heaven on Earth. Over time I came to realize that this place was not a legend, but rather, a myth. My childish dreams of one day finding Atlantis were quashed, conveniently around the same time I found out Santa wasn't real.
Fast forward a couple decades and I find myself in a hotel room in Sao Paulo, drinking a couple of beers, and watching the EuroCup. I am excited to check out this nightclub I keep hearing about, a place called Scandallo. After the games end, I decide to take care of some work before hopping in an Uber. Around 9 PM I arrive at the doors of Scandallo, unaware of what I had just found.
Gentlemen, Atlantis does exist. But, it has a different name now: Scandallo.
This is so great to hear, Scandallo's quality and reputation seems to have made it through the pandemic intact. Reviews from people suchas yourself (picky about looks, relatively less budget-constraindd) are so valuable to me. Keep up the good work and keep writing! I look forward to visiting Atlantis as soon as possible.
SinfullyKorean
07-01-21, 05:21
Gentlemen, Atlantis does exist. But, it has a different name now: Scandallo.Hahaha, that was fun to read. Sorry for your loss, but also, happy you found paradise, nirvana, Atlantis. I'm sure Scandallo only got better as I left. It was only opening til 4 AM again on the week I left. I'm sure all the regular ladies went back soon after.
I knew you'd like it. And I'm glad you found it as beautiful as I did, if not more so. Have fun!!
BTW, if you arrive before 7PM, entry fee is R150, all of which can be used for consumables. But most likely, you will have spent at least R300 by 9 or 10PM. So it might actually make more sense to get to Scandallo later. Scandallo food is pretty decent, too.
Hahaha, that was fun to read. Sorry for your loss, but also, happy you found paradise, nirvana, Atlantis. I'm sure Scandallo only got better as I left. It was only opening til 4 AM again on the week I left. I'm sure all the regular ladies went back soon after.
I knew you'd like it. And I'm glad you found it as beautiful as I did, if not more so. Have fun!!
BTW, if you arrive before 7PM, entry fee is R150, all of which can be used for consumables. But most likely, you will have spent at least R300 by 9 or 10PM. So it might actually make more sense to get to Scandallo later. Scandallo food is pretty decent, too.The reason I say arrive by 10 pm is because it gives you a chance to be the "early worm" and potentially grab a hottie "fresh" before anybody else can get on her during the night. If I plan to have dinner there, I will arrive earlier than that, eat, and then sit back and have some drinks and relax. Stroll around a little bit. Find an early score! This is how I do. I like to be able to "operate" some before the place gets packed, and have found some absolute stunners that way. Kicks my evening off right!
...Here is where great goes to bad....This is indeed unusual, from all my years of hobbying in Brazil I cannot recall ever having experienced bad odor there. If I had I would remember. My worst ever such experience was with a barbershop girl in Chang Ping China circa 2010. Chosen from a lineup of around 30 beautiful girls and repaired to my hotel room. When she took off her clothes the smell enveloped the room. Three showers could not get rid of the odor. No way could I get an erection under such circumstances. Some drama did ensue subsequently.
Same as Turgid. In dozens of trips to Brasil, I never encountered a chick w stinky pussy.
Same as Turgid. In dozens of trips to Brasil, I never encountered a chick w stinky pussy.Some guys just seem to catch all the bad luck. Or, maybe we have been lucky? Don't know.
Jimmy Boy 99
07-01-21, 20:31
Snip. Here is where great goes to bad. Gentlemen, I must admit that I broke my own rule. I generally do not bring pros back to my hotel because I enjoy my personal space and also do not trust them. The women at Scandallo were so amazing that I was willing to break this rule, and did. Back at my hotel, the beautiful mid-20's spinner begins with a phenomenal show of oral gymnastics. She is highly receptive to feedback (speaks fluent English) and is thoroughly committed to the cause. When she takes off her skirt, however, a terrible thing happens: a smell unleashes that has effectively given me PTSD. I do not even want to describe it in detail here, but we all know what I am talking about: (long) expired fish and unwashed ass.
I feign a finish within a matter of a minute, burn the condom (read: seal it in a bag, then throw it in another bag), decontaminate (shower for a very long time), and metaphorically cry myself to sleep (though literally doing so in this case would be justified). The girl was going to spend the night but I had to kick her out, although I did so in a very nice way. I paid her what I was going to pay her for the whole night / next day (R1000) which was negotiated beforehand. She didn't ask for this amount since I cut the session short, but I was craving a shower in the worst way and just wanted to get her out immediately. As the sun came up, my heart went down. A single tear rolled down my cheek as I couldn't figure out how to open the window of my hotel room. Luckily I have 2 beds. Snip/Guess I'll have to add "Do you have a stinky pussy?" to my list of interview questions.
DreamCarnarvon
07-01-21, 21:21
This is indeed unusual, from all my years of hobbying in Brazil I cannot recall ever having experienced bad odor there.I can only recall 2 incidents from experience, both happened about 2 years ago. One happened at Clinica Nova Ceci on a repeat session. Beautiful girl in the 8 range. Everything was fine on our first session. Second session started out fine. But the smell started as we fucked in cowgirl. It really took me by surprise. I didn't say anything and she acted like as if nothing was wrong and so we kept going but I'm sure she noticed the smell as well. The second incident was at Clinica Nara. Again everything was fine, no smell whatsoever until we started fucking.
TiaVoyage, your girl must've been at least a 9. I can't imagine otherwise how you were able to finish with her. Seriously, nothing kills an erection faster than a stanky pussy! In my case I didn't lose out too much. But that 1000 reais is a bit hard to swallow. You were gentleman enough to keep your word and gave her the full agreed amount. I hope the girl realizes and fixes her hygiene issue for both her health and business sake.
Even though I never frequented Scandallo and Connection much, I am nevertheless glad that they are doing well.
TiaVoyage25
07-01-21, 22:04
The time has come for me to post my report on clinicas. As always, this report does not serve to criticize anyone and how they choose to spend their time and money. Everyone has different tastes and objectives in this hobby, so the assessment below is merely a reflection of mine. I write this because, as stated in my earlier posts on the Rio forum, my reports will serve to inform the "newbie monger", rather than the experienced monger who knows the lay of the land. Please also keep in mind that I write this with a particular type of taste. I will never monger in Africa and I have little to no intention of mongering in Asia. I like European women and Latina types so my subjective views outlined here reflect as such. If I state something factually incorrect, please feel free to engage. But, I have not and will not engage in a debate here as I am merely presenting an opinion based on my own experiences.
An unnamed senior board member expressed to me in a PM that clinicas are like sandwich shops where you stop in for a decent meal. You aren't expecting gourmet and you aren't going to pay gourmet prices either. After at least 2 visits to many, many of the clinicas on the SP map, I agree with this sentiment. My whirlwind tour of the clinicas has left me largely unimpressed as I find most of the girls to be Rio tier 2 termas equivalent. The best establishments would maybe be Tier 1. 5 equivalent. The girls are not unattractive but I hesitate to spend money for their time. Sure, a few 7's are thrown in the mix but by and large you are going to have to search pretty hard for them. Furthermore, you never know which clinica is going to have the best lineup that day. One day Prime had a decent lineup but on my next visit I walked out within seconds of the last girl introducing herself. I'd say the average across all clinicas is probably a 4 or 5. I have yet to see a girl higher than 8 on my scale at any clinica. And that was only one 8.
There is a reason that these clinicas have thousands of positive reviews on local forums. The places are affordable and you will get good service for the most part. For your average, middle to upper middle class Brazilian guy, places like Prime, Mirunas, Enjoy, and Abbobora are the quality sandwich shop. Clinicas are the unlimited soup, salad, and breadsticks at Olive Garden. They can go there, session with a decent looking girl, get good service, and go home to their wives with a smile on their face without breaking the bank. I get it and the model makes sense. I will once again paraphrase a quote by Bearsi, "I am not going to fly several thousand miles to bang average looking women that I could at home after a few drinks in a bar and some decent game".
There is also a reason why Scandallo basically has no reviews on local forums. Your average, middle class Brazilian isn't going to Scandallo, perhaps ever. A night there would cost him half his monthly paycheck. The locals visiting Scandallo are among the small number of wealthy members of Brazilian society. This was explained to me by a wealthy, local Brazilian. Since there aren't many of them, they obviously aren't posting on local forums often, if at all. But it is because of the money that the club can bring in the most attractive girls to work. If you want a luxury car, you're going to have to pay for it. Sure, you might be able to find that 69 GTO at a backwoods auction hosted by some old dude who doesn't know what he has, but that is the exception rather than the rule. If one puts in the work, you can find the diamond in the rough, but if you're on a short vacation, why would you want to do that? Unless you enjoy the search of course.
In summary, I leave the newbie monger with similar tastes to mine (top tier IG model types) with this: clinicas are a waste of your time unless you just need to get a quick release. I doubt I will continue to visit them much more as I can find better quality online or at Scandallo.
The time has come for me to post my report on clinicas. An unnamed senior board member expressed to me in a PM that clinicas are like sandwich shops where you stop in for a decent meal. You aren't expecting gourmet and you aren't going to pay gourmet prices either. After at least 2 visits to many, many of the clinicas on the SP map, I agree with this sentiment. My whirlwind tour of the clinicas has left me largely unimpressed as I find most of the girls to be Rio tier 2 termas equivalent. The best establishments would maybe be Tier 1. 5 equivalent. The girls are not unattractive but I hesitate to spend money for their time. Sure, a few 7's are thrown in the mix but by and large you are going to have to search pretty hard for them.
There is a reason that these clinicas have thousands of positive reviews on local forums. The places are affordable and you will get good service for the most part. For your average, middle to upper middle class Brazilian guy, places like Prime, Mirunas, Enjoy, and Abbobora are the quality sandwich shop. Clinicas are the unlimited soup, salad, and breadsticks at Olive Garden. They can go there, session with a decent looking girl, get good service, and go home to their wives with a smile on their face without breaking the bank. I get it and the model makes sense. I will once again paraphrase a quote by Bearsi, "I am not going to fly several thousand miles to bang average looking women that I could at home after a few drinks in a bar and some decent game".
There is also a reason why Scandallo basically has no reviews on local forums. Your average, middle class Brazilian isn't going to Scandallo, perhaps ever. A night there would cost him half his monthly paycheck. The locals visiting Scandallo are among the small number of wealthy members of Brazilian society. This was explained to me by a wealthy, local Brazilian. Since there aren't many of them, they obviously aren't posting on local forums often, if at all. But it is because of the money that the club can bring in the most attractive girls to work. If you want a luxury car, you're going to have to pay for it. Sure, you might be able to find that 69 GTO at a backwoods auction hosted by some old dude who doesn't know what he has, but that is the exception rather than the rule. If one puts in the work, you can find the diamond in the rough, but if you're on a short vacation, why would you want to do that? Unless you enjoy the search of course. In summary, I leave the newbie monger with similar tastes to mine (top tier IG model types) with this: clinicas are a waste of your time unless you just need to get a quick release. I doubt I will continue to visit them much more as I can find better quality online or at Scandallo.I find your report to well-written, insightful, and in line with my own findings. The girls working in the "day league" aren't all the same ones working in the "night league". And just because you find one here or there who does work in both, that doesn't establish that they all do, or that even a significant number do. They don't. If they did, well I'm smart enough to realize that, and would rate the clinicas higher. And further, on average the girls who work the clinicas just aren't as hot as the ones who work the top nightclubs in Sao Paulo. It's going to cost you more to drive a BMW versus a Buick. And a Bentley will cost you even more! That's not mere "overpaying". That's paying for luxury! Bravo TiaVoyage! Bravo! Written like a seasoned monger, and not a "newbie". Bravo!
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There is also a reason why Scandallo basically has no reviews on local forums. Your average, middle class Brazilian isn't going to Scandallo, perhaps ever. A night there would cost him half his monthly paycheck. The locals visiting Scandallo are among the small number of wealthy members of Brazilian society. This was explained to me by a wealthy, local Brazilian. Since there aren't many of them, they obviously aren't posting on local forums often, if at all. But it is because of the money that the club can bring in the most attractive girls to work. If you want a luxury car, you're going to have to pay for it. Sure, you might be able to find that 69 GTO at a backwoods auction hosted by some old dude who doesn't know what he has, but that is the exception rather than the rule. If one puts in the work, you can find the diamond in the rough, but if you're on a short vacation, why would you want to do that? Unless you enjoy the search of course. ].
In my opinion there are not many reviews on Scandallo on this forum and worse yet Fazendinha in Campinas. Pricing at Scandallo is ambiguous. People generally know that is hard to get out of there without spending 800-1000 reais damage because of the level of talent and they know the general breakdown.
- 250 entrance and (150 in consumption).
- 300 for room onsite for 1 hour.
- 500 minimum for girl usually get quoted 1000 (negotiable, incorrect assumption is that the rate is for 1 hour).
Not sure if this is common knowledge but what I recently learned in April from a reliable GDP acquaintance was that it is better deal to negotiate with the girl, pay house 100 to take the girl out instead of assuming it is 500-1000 for an hour with the girl because of 300/ HR room rate. Recognize this option is not for everyone and some are not comfortable bringing stranger back to hotel. Hope to try this out in a couple of weeks.
SinfullyKorean
07-02-21, 02:07
The time has come for me to post my report on clinicas. As always, this report does not serve to criticize anyone and how they choose to spend their time and money. Everyone has different tastes and objectives in this hobby, so the assessment below is merely a reflection of mine. I write this because, as stated in my earlier posts on the Rio forum, my reports will serve to inform the "newbie monger", rather than the experienced monger who knows the lay of the land. Please also keep in mind that I write this with a particular type of taste. I will never monger in Africa and I have little to no intention of mongering in Asia. I like European women and Latina types so my subjective views outlined here reflect as such. If I state something factually incorrect, please feel free to engage. But, I have not and will not engage in a debate here as I am merely presenting an opinion based on my own experiences.Not offended, and I think it's a fair assessment. If you're looking for top tier, IG model level talent, no question, go to Scandallo. If you're looking for budget fun, go to clinicas. On most days, I found about 4 7's, and sometimes a couple 8's. I think Sasha (abbobora) was an 8. 5, although service level left quite a bit to be desired. You're probably going to spend at least 5 x the cost of clinicas. If I stay there long term, I'll probably try to mix it up.
a smell unleashes that has effectively given me PTSD. I do not even want to describe it in detail here, but we all know what I am talking about:
I feign a finish within a matter of a minute, burn the condom (read: seal it in a bag, then throw it in another bag), decontaminate (shower for a very long time), and metaphorically cry myself to sleep (though literally doing so in this case would be justified). The girl was going to spend the night but I had to kick her out, although I did so in a very nice way. She didn't ask for this amount since I cut the session short, but I was craving a shower in the worst way and just wanted to get her out immediately. As the sun came up, my heart went down. A single tear rolled down my cheek as I couldn't figure out how to open the window of my hotel room. Luckily I have 2 beds.Hahahaha, you are too funny and love your writing style.
I have mentioned this smell issue after my trip report (my old username was oldbelly69) and it is complete turnoff.
Hahahaha, you are too funny and love your writing style.
I have mentioned this smell issue after my trip report (my old username was oldbelly69) and it is complete turnoff.One of the worst smells and instant boner killer. Doesn't occur often but you know the stench. I would guess she is on her monthly cycle; a lot of girls have to keep working so they stuff cotton (algodao) in their private part.
EverythingBlue
07-02-21, 03:12
The reason I say arrive by 10 pm is because it gives you a chance to be the "early worm" and potentially grab a hottie "fresh" before anybody else can get on her during the night. If I plan to have dinner there, I will arrive earlier than that, eat, and then sit back and have some drinks and relax. Stroll around a little bit. Find an early score! This is how I do. I like to be able to "operate" some before the place gets packed, and have found some absolute stunners that way. Kicks my evening off right!I've been meaning to ask this about Scandallo. Whenever I session, I try to be fresh off the shower and also have perfect dental hygiene, I expect the same from the girl. If arriving early, and eating there, how do you all deal with the dilemma of say having eaten seafood and then having a random garota come up to sit down with you, maybe start kissing here and there or even walk up to the room and start the action prior to freshening up? Do you just sip on a straight whisky to kill the germs? LOL. I imagine once in the room you can shower and brush your teeth right? But what about in between?
In summary, I leave the newbie monger with similar tastes to mine (top tier IG model types) with this: clinicas are a waste of your time unless you just need to get a quick release. I doubt I will continue to visit them much more as I can find better quality online or at Scandallo.Thanks for the report. I'm kind of disappointed now since I was hoping to spend my daytime at clinicas and nighttime at Scandallo. My whole expectation in going to SP is to find "IG model" quality girls, as others have said they are to be found plenty. My scale of 1-10 is on the high side, since I've lived in LA and other West Coast cities for awhile and have been spoiled. Is the only alternative to find that consistently during daytime to use online services? I'm looking forward to more of your findings, I'm a fairly new monger so your info is just what I need.
UniversalX
07-02-21, 05:01
TiaVoyage, I feel your pain man. There is nothing worse than smelly pussy. ..........Thankfully, I do not come across smelly pussy very often, but when I do the question arises: should I tell the girl or not. LOL. I do not say anything, but clearly my actions speak volumes.LOL. SMH.
Thankfully, I haven't had a serious incident that a shower didn't cure.
Shower First (not hand and water, I mean Water, Soap, and Washcloth!!) if that doesn't help then she got to go. And yes I would tell her why she is being dismissed.
Some guys just seem to catch all the bad luck. Or, maybe we have been lucky? Don't know.Happened to me once at Brooklin Massagem.
Azn Safado
07-02-21, 05:47
I am putting this report here since (Fazendinha is sometimes talked about and compared to Scandallo) and also in the Campinas thread (which is hardly visited):
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I was in Campinas a few weeks ago on a business trip. Met up with a friend who lived in Sao Paulo.
Fazendinha
Took an Uber from Centro to Fazendinha (took 35 minutes due to traffic, normally only 23 minutes) on a Thursday night. We got there at 6:30 pm. The outside is very impressive. Looks like a resort straight out of Palm Springs. We entered into the outside resort area where there is a swimming pool, bar, outdoor restaurant, and outdoor tables. There were about 20 girls scattered all around the area. Quality was quite high, with most girls about an 8 in rating sprinkled in with one or two 9's. We hung around this outside area for about 30 minutes and at 7 pm, the inside area which consists of restaurant and dance floor opened up. The outside area only stays open until 8 pm. The inside area was a bit underwhelming. The restaurant was quite small and enclosed with a revolving door. I would say it had about maybe 10-12 tables so it could fit about 40 people max. It was about 1/3 the size of the restaurant at Scandallo. There's a buffet and also a la carte menu. Girls eat at the buffet for free every night so as we were eating in the restaurant, the girls would come in and grab their food from the buffet and then bring it out to the dance floor area that had a lot of booths and tables and they would eat there. Girls can't eat inside the restaurant unless they order a la carte. The food was ok but not as good as Scandallo's.
By about 9 pm, there were about 50-60 girls in the dance floor area. There were probably only about 15-20 male customers so the ratio was quite good. I didn't like the layout of this area as there was a dance floor and then a lot of booths and tables to the side so if a girl was occupied, you couldn't even really see her. There were also booths up in a higher area that were pretty private. I prefer a more open area where you can see everyone around. There's also a stage in this disco area where girls do strip shows every 30 minutes or so. Pretty ho hum.
In the restaurant, I met this beautiful 23 year old from Rio named Thifany! She recently got divorced. Just kidding Steve9696. I really met a 20 year old girl from Campinas that gave me a good vibe. Had a nice all natural body with C cups. After having a couple of drinks, we talked about price. She opened with R700 for an hour. I countered with R400 and we settled on R500. We went to the hotel room which was about 50 yards outside on another side of the resort. Very nice rooms. The service that this girl gave was pretty bad. She seemed too inexperienced. Gave BBBJ but not a good one. I didn't really interview her asking what she would or wouldn't do. Just went with the flow.
My friend took a spinner with big naturals and he could only negotiate R500 for an hour also.
We also went back here the next night which was Friday. Talent was weaker with only about 35 girls on hand.
Getting an Uber from Fazendinha back to Centro was a total crapshoot. On Thursday night, it took us 30 minutes to find an Uber. Then on Friday night it took us 5 minutes by luck since the driver was dropping someone off at Fazendinha. They stayed open until 3 am even during the restrictions..
Pricing structure:
* Entrance - R250 fully consumable. There's also a lunch special from Noon to 3 p on weekdays where the entrance is R100 but everything else is a la carte (food, drinks). Good price if you want to enter and just session to keep costs down.
* Rooms - starting at R110 with no AC up, then R160 for standard suite (the one I chose, which was bigger than Scandallo's), and R180 for the best suite.
* Exit fee - I forgot to ask!!!
* Girls - seem to open with R700 and accept R500.
Total damage - R250 (entrance) + R500 (girl) + R160 (room) = R910
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Moustache Single's Bar
We decided to check this place out at 7 pm on a Friday night. It looks like a pub inside. The rules are like Cafe Foto. Girls can't approach the customers. We paid the entrance and used the consumption to eat some pizza. There were about 15 very bored girls and a half of them were old ladies. We left after 2 hours.
Pricing structure:
* Entrance - R120 fully consumable.
* Rooms - none
* Exit fee - R120.
* Girls - start off at R500 but will accept R400.
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Jardim Itatinga Neighborhood
We decided to check out Las Vegas Night Club here. Never heard of it but ran across it on some Google search. This neighborhood is something else. It's a full red light district neighborhood. Multiple streets lined with working girls, some which are topless. It was like a cleaner, bigger Vila Mimosa. I don't know how many blocks there were, but each street had fairly large casas which all had working girls in them (maybe 6-8 girls per casa but most of the time they seemed to be in the street enticing drivers and pedestrians to come inside).
As we were walking around, a hot girl from Bahia invited us into one of the casas. She asked me if I could buy her and her friend a beer. I said sure. This is where I went wrong as I wasn't sure how these casas operated. She took my entrance card and marked down 2 beers. She then negotiated R50 for half hour of sex with my friend. When they went to the room, she was going to give him a covered BJ so he reneged and they both came back to the bar. At this point I was ready to go so I went to close the bill. The guy behind the bar says "That'll be R703". I then asked "don't you mean R70,30?" He said "no, I mean 700 reais." I looked at the bill and lo and behold, a beer costs R70! The girl also marked 2 whiskeys and 2 red bulls. They also charged R30 for the room and somehow it all came out to R700! After a heated argument about everything, the guy said "Give me R350 and you can go". I said "I'll give you R300 which seems more than fair considering the girl ordered stuff without my consent". The bar was run by some young thugs so I wasn't going to get into a physical altercation over this. He accepted the R300 and we got out of there.
Lesson learned. If you go into these places, hang onto your entrance card and check the pricing for any drinks before ordering! Do not give the girl your entrance card under any circumstances!
Final Thoughts
Campinas is a small town and seemed a bit old, blue collar like. Would I ever return? I doubt it. It was cool to finally cross Fazendinha off the list but I don't think it's worth going out of the way to experience it when Scandallo is already in Sao Paulo.
In the restaurant, I met this beautiful 23 year old from Rio named Thifany! She recently got divorced. Just kidding Steve9696 . . . You had me going there for a minute! ...kkkk
Final Thoughts
Campinas is a small town and seemed a bit old, blue collar like. Would I ever return? I doubt it. It was cool to finally cross Fazendinha off the list but I don't think it's worth going out of the way to experience it when Scandallo is already in Sao Paulo.Nice report and thanks for the Scandallo comparison, for those of us looking to part take in the Sao Paulo/Campinas night clubs.
Steve 9696
07-02-21, 12:56
Hahaha. Safado you got me too. I could feel my heart rising into my throat as you mentioned Thifany. Good one! Love your report and so interesting to hear about that RLD. I am a meticulous researcher but did not find that. Sounds like maybe good I didn't. LOL.
I think your overall assessment of Fazendinha is spot on. Rather cool place to go if you happen to be in Campinas. And you can get lucky as I did with Thifany. I also lucked out at Moustache with Ayslane. I think she was a bit older as you say because I ended up following her Insta and seeing she had a son about 5. She's since had another kid and still looks amazing tho (one of those fab faces).
Just one thing to add. When I went they were running a limo (van) and would come down to Campinas to pick up and then come get you at 3 AM. This avoids the Uber problem. I had that happen but even worse at a Boate called SusiNight out in the sticks near CDS. Got damn lucky to catch a ride with the sandwich truck guy, else my colleagues would have wondered where the fuck I am next morning! The struggle is real!
... I'd say the average across all clinicas is probably a 4 or 5. I have yet to see a girl higher than 8 on my scale at any clinica. And that was only one 8....You have very high standards. I won't advise you to visit any other Latin American country as Brazil is tops in this region. FKKs for you.
You have very high standards. I won't advise you to visit any other Latin American country as Brazil is tops in this region. FKKs for you.I absolutely agree with him, and I love mongering in Latin America in general, and in Brazil in particular. I think he was talking very narrowly here about the clinicas, where I also find the overall overall optics to be poor. Lots of 6's and below. That said, just stick to the more higher-end places, and perhaps the clinicas known for having the best optics (changes with time), and you will be fine mongering in Brazil! I mean, didn't you see how much he loved Scandallo? I believe your advise is a harsh reaction to somebody who mostly rejects the quality found in the clinicas, as I do. But it's well known that I love Brazil!
Same as Turgid. In dozens of trips to Brasil, I never encountered a chick w stinky pussy.Some guys are channeling Hemingway on the Rio thread, I'll just quote Miss Phoebe Buffay.
Smelly Cat, Smelly Cat.
What are they feeding you?
Smelly Cat, Smelly Cat.
It's not your fault.
Azn Safado
07-02-21, 15:45
When I went they were running a limo (van) and would come down to Campinas to pick up and then come get you at 3 AM. This avoids the Uber problem. I had that happen but even worse at a Boate called SusiNight out in the sticks near CDS. Got damn lucky to catch a ride with the sandwich truck guy, else my colleagues would have wondered where the fuck I am next morning! The struggle is real!I did call the manager at Fazendinha in the afternoon and asked if they still had the van pickup service and he said they stopped doing that during the pandemic. So most likely they won't offer the service again for awhile or if ever again.
Hahaha. Safado you got me too. I could feel my heart rising into my throat as you mentioned Thifany. Good one!Haha I was actually going to provide more sordid, Penthouse forum like details but that would have been cruel!
Love reading the new reports about Scandello. Glad to hear it is somewhat coming back. Looks like I am going to have to change my strategy when I get to São Paulo. Sleep during the day for a few hours before heading out to for the night so I can find something interesting in Scandello.
TiaVoyage25 — I fully agree with your view. Your writing was spot on and it makes perfect sense to a newbie monger who just doesn't have the time or the patience to hunt for a diamond in the rough. I have high standard like you and expect the girls to be hot otherwise I don't feel like doing anything.
Enjoy your time and keep up the reports.
DreamCarnarvon
07-03-21, 05:42
Fazendinha
By about 9 pm, there were about 50-60 girls in the dance floor area. There were probably only about 15-20 male customers so the ratio was quite good.I always love to seek out and explore new places. Too bad its not easily reachable from Sao Paulo. Azn Safado, can you expand on the makeup of the girls on that night? How many were morenas, brancas, and negras?
Jardim Itatinga is a well known red light area in Campinas. But it is also notorious known by the locals for having crook establishments running scams on clients, such as the one Azn Safado and his friend suffered. Its not a place where you can casually go and pickup a girl. You will need to be extremely careful. Best to go with a local who knows the area well.
Some guys are channeling Hemingway on the Rio thread, I'll just quote Miss Phoebe Buffay.
Smelly Cat, Smelly Cat.
What are they feeding you?
Smelly Cat, Smelly Cat.
It's not your fault.Ha ha ha. I watched Friends so many times and never thought of that. You think there was double entendre in that song?
I absolutely agree with him, and I love mongering in Latin America in general, and in Brazil in particular. I think he was talking very narrowly here about the clinicas, where I also find the overall overall optics to be poor. Lots of 6's and below. That said, just stick to the more higher-end places, and perhaps the clinicas known for having the best optics (changes with time), and you will be fine mongering in Brazil! I mean, didn't you see how much he loved Scandallo? I believe your advise is a harsh reaction to somebody who mostly rejects the quality found in the clinicas, as I do. But it's well known that I love Brazil!I have read here so many times that many Scandallo girls can be found in the clinicas. What gives?
Ha ha ha. I watched Friends so many times and never thought of that. You think there was double entendre in that song?Yes, I think so. The human mind is obsessed with the nether regions.
I have read here so many times that many Scandallo girls can be found in the clinicas. What gives?The truth is what gives. That's exactly what I read before I went and saw for myself, and I simply found it not to be true. That was the second argument against Scandallo (the first being price). It's the same girls. Well no it isn't! Then, somebody names one or two as examples of girls working both circuits, as if that's evidence that most of them do. They don't. So first argument was about price, then the second was it's the same girls. Then third comes, well even if it isn't the same girls, well the girls in the clinicas look just as good. Again, no they don't. If you're satisfied with a lot of 6's and below with a scattering of girls 7 and up here and there, then you will be happy with the clinicas, including with the price. But if you want lots of 7's and up and have the coin to pay for them, then look elsewhere. "Drive luxury" and play in the night league! People have been telling you this for years Turgid, yet you continue to choose to believe the myths about the optics at the clinicas. I put this one in the same class with "all Brazilian women have big butts" and "there are few if any white girls working in Brazil". None of that holds an iota of truth!
Now, If you just don't want to pay a "luxury tax" then OK. The price is too high for you. But stop justifying your decision by accepting the claim that it's the exact same girls. In that case, the clinica girls would look just as hot wouldn't they? I'm a rational man. So in that case, I would promote the clinicas over the nightclubs. Why wouldn't I do that? The hottest girls at the best prices right? I don't have any financial or other interests in people choosing one over the other. I don't pump up the clinicas as the best because those myths I noted about them aren't the true, and guys need to be told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth! TiaVoyage really, really explained the difference extremely well, and for that reason I gave him a standing ovation! Thinking about it, and given some of your past statements, I think you actually would be satisfied with mainly 6's and below. So stick with the clinicas. Just don't fool yourself into thinking that what you're fucking is as hot as what me, Steve, and TiaVoyage are fucking at Scandallo LOLOLOL!
I have read here so many times that many Scandallo girls can be found in the clinicas. What gives?Some people generalize it. By all accounts, there will be 150 or more a night in Scandallo. Play with this number and I think not all girls work in the clinicas at the same time. If a girl go to sleep in the morning, it is not likely they can fit the clinica hours into their Scandallo hours.
Vagabundo1
07-03-21, 18:26
https://www.xvideos.com/models/kamilla-werneck
You will find porn star quality talent in clinicas. In Miruna, Kamila worked for many years.
While some may discuss Miruna as lower tier, this is not correct. Look at the area. High end car dealership across the street. The clients are professionals. The girls are clean and tested. 240 r is a lot for an hour of sex.
In some RJ prives, you will also find porn stars, for example, Marcella Shultz in a RB156 prive.
Some people generalize it. By all accounts, there will be 150 or more a night in Scandallo. Play with this number and I think not all girls work in the clinicas at the same time. If a girl go to sleep in the morning, it is not likely they can fit the clinica hours into their Scandallo hours.
While some may discuss Miruna as lower tier, this is not correct. Look at the area. High end car dealership across the street. The clients are professionals. The girls are clean and tested.I agree that Miruna is one of the better clinicas.
I have read here so many times that many Scandallo girls can be found in the clinicas. What gives?I think it's name-dropping. The girl whose photo I posted said that usually she works in Scandallo, but was in Casarao only because it's very slow there during the carnival. I don't believe that, because the next few trips I always met her in Casarao. I think for one reason or another she didn't make it there in Scandallo. I believe, being quite good looking, it was easier for her to have two or three clients in Casarao every night than having one client every single night in Scandallo. It's still nice to say that you are a Scandallo (quality) girl. Same thing happens when the girls talk to each other about how much they charge. Many times the girls have asked me not to tell their friends that they are giving me a "discount".
You will find porn star quality talent in clinicas. In Miruna, Kamila worked for many years.
While some may discuss Miruna as lower tier, this is not correct. Look at the area. High end car dealership across the street. The clients are professionals. The girls are clean and tested. 240 r is a lot for an hour of sex.
In some RJ prives, you will also find porn stars, for example, Marcella Shultz in a RB156 prive.I think he is talking about the same person, not about same talent level.
I think it's name-dropping. The girl whose photo I posted said that usually she works in Scandallo, but was in Casarao only because it's very slow there during the carnival. I don't believe that, because the next few trips I always met her in Casarao. I think for one reason or another she didn't make it there in Scandallo. I believe, being quite good looking, it was easier for her to have two or three clients in Casarao every night than having one client every single night in Scandallo. It's still nice to say that you are a Scandallo (quality) girl. Same thing happens when the girls talk to each other about how much they charge. Many times the girls have asked me not to tell their friends that they are giving me a "discount".Just for unfamiliar newbies, Casarao isn't a clinica. It's one of the nightclubs or "boates".
Ok, ok, ok guys I've got to get my ass into Scandallo next visit to SP, whenever that may be. However, I am minded that beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, I have found the talent at Miruna to be on the low end and comparable to Tangara. On the other hand, I have been consistently impressed with the selection at Enjoy and especially Abbobora which are my go to clinicas. I have sessioned hotties comparable to FKKs at these establishments.
Azn Safado
07-05-21, 00:43
I always love to seek out and explore new places. Too bad its not easily reachable from Sao Paulo. Azn Safado, can you expand on the makeup of the girls on that night? How many were morenas, brancas, and negras? I would say there were mostly brancas and maybe 30 percent morenas. I think there was only one negra in the club the 2 days that I went.
Ok, ok, ok guys. I've got to get my ass into Scandallo next visit to SP, whenever that may be. However, I am minded that beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.This is true. However, I have found over the years that I have good taste in women. If I say that a woman is attractive, other men are more likely to agree with me than not. And if I say that a woman is just normal to unattractive, other men are more likely to agree with me than not. And by the way, my rating of Miruna wasn't based on girl optics alone. It also included the quality of the facilities and staff. This is extremely important to me. If an establishment is a squalid hole in the wall with poor management, it's very unlikely that I'm going to give it a thumbs up as a place to go to for fucking, or for anything else.
That said, for me Miruna fits perfectly within the mold that TiaVoyage described. Mostly 6's and below, with a scattering of a few 7's and up. Tangara was the same, but with shabbier facilities (but still passable). And I'm saying these are two of the better ones! So, what does that say about the many others? I must caution that I although I have been to a lot of clinicas, I have not been to all of them, like Prime which currently gets rave reviews. The other thing to remember is that things change, and can change fast. The place that was hot last visit may not be this visit, and vice versa. That's why it's important each time to check out as many places as your time, money, energy, and interest will allow you to.
You strike me as the kind of monger who is strongly driven by price, and not so much by optics. If that's the case, then you're probably better off sticking with the clinicas. But yes, you should at least go to some of the top night spots in Sao Paulo just to see for yourself. Just don't come back here and start telling everybody it's all the same girls, or that on average the clinica girls look just as good! I'll have to take issue with that if you do LOL!
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