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Unfortunately, lots of Scandallo girls require full payment upfront, as soon as you enter the room. When they come to your apt, they also require full payment upfront.Haven't paid upfront yet. If they ask, I show them the money and give them half. Rest after we are done. If they demand upfront, I guess I would ask them to leave but since it hasn't happened yet.
Since I joined this website back in 2019, I have taken out 3 Scandello girls for a long weekend and paid afterwards. Each girls cost 4 K for the weekend. I also had 2 from PA who I paid at the end and I had 2 threesomes who I also paid at the end of the weekend.
I usually have never paid upfront in other countries either.
Where do you like to exchange your money when you're staying in SP? I can think of many places that give less than stellar exchanges, but not many with preferred rates. I usually change my cash in moema at the get money exchange house inside the ibirapuera shopping on the 3rd or 4th floor. Their rates seem fair but I'm wondering if I'm selling myself short by not exchanging my cash at another SP casa de cambio with better offered rates.
Elvis 2008
11-03-21, 14:38
Let me add a bit more advice as I have been able to get BBFS from girls in Scandello.Great post, Anaggie. How open would you rate Brazilians with BBFS? Are they as open about it as everything else?
Unfortunately, lots of Scandallo girls require full payment upfront, as soon as you enter the room. When they come to your apt, they also require full payment upfront.You pay after in the clinicas. However, if I remember correctly they always made me pay before at Abbobora.
FlowState985
11-03-21, 19:50
Where do you like to exchange your money when you're staying in SP? I can think of many places that give less than stellar exchanges, but not many with preferred rates. I usually change my cash in moema at the get money exchange house inside the ibirapuera shopping on the 3rd or 4th floor. Their rates seem fair but I'm wondering if I'm selling myself short by not exchanging my cash at another SP casa de cambio with better offered rates.I'd just recommend open a Charles Schwab checking account and use Bradesco ATM. You get the best exchange rate and no ATM fees. Super convenient and the ATMs are everywhere if you need to use other ATMs. If other ATMs charge you fees, Charles Schwab will refund it at the end of monthly statement. There is even ATM inside Scandallo.
Initially, I was thinking of carrying a ot of cash too, but experience members told me just use ATMs.
I'd just recommend open a Charles Schwab checking account and use Bradesco ATM. You get the best exchange rate and no ATM fees. Super convenient and the ATMs are everywhere if you need to use other ATMs. If other ATMs charge you fees, Charles Schwab will refund it at the end of monthly statement. There is even ATM inside Scandallo.
Initially, I was thinking of carrying a ot of cash too, but experience members told me just use ATMs.And make sure you only use ATMs located inside of a secure place. Never use one located outside on the street. Too many skim scams that way. So don't do it!
Planning to stay for about 12-14 days.
I will declare on arrival. I will have it spread out on my person, and my handbag and secret pockets etc on the way from the airport.
The reasons for bringing cash are my own, unfortunately not able to share.
Thanks everyone for their advice. I will write reports when I reach.
Just be aware that by bringing in that much cash $16K+ (US), you may paint a target on your back, coming from the airport. Wish I could say all Brazilian Customs Officers were upstanding and law abiding.
While I, don't think it's as prevalent as bygone days of old, but tip-offs to criminal elements, w/r to gringos bringing in large sums money, had been know to happen from time to time. I think Rio more than Sao Paulo, but none the less, feel free to be as paranoid as you want coming in from the airport, on your taxi/uber until you get to your intended hotel.
Take care, take precautions, keep your wits about yourself, keep your head on a swivel and don't broadcast your whereabouts or travel plans while in transit with large sums of unsecured money. Good luck and report back.
Great post, Anaggie. How open would you rate Brazilians with BBFS? Are they as open about it as everything else?They are definitely more open to it than other places I have been to for sure. A lot depends on the guy though. Do you have a recent test with you that they girl can understand? Are you making her feel comfortable when talking to her or is it all business? If she feels comfortable and you don't push it too hard, I have found they are more receptive to it. If they say no, I don't push it anymore.
Not saying it happens all the time, but it happens more often than not. I also make sure I am with higher end girls who make their health a priority. Before meeting any of the girls, I am showered, clean shaven, hair combed and a bit of cologne. None of this shaggy beard and hair bullshit. I keep myself in fit shape but am in no way with a 6 pack as my goal is to be able to see my dick every morning by looking down and not in a mirror🤣 (no giant gut sticking out).
In the end, I think it is how you present yourself to the girl and how she responds to you is going to make it break the deal.
Steve 9696
11-03-21, 23:05
And make sure you only use ATMs located inside of a secure place. Never use one located outside on the street. Too many skim scams that way. So don't do it!Def only ATMs in banks. So plan ahead and go during the day. But also make sure you answer the question right. They will ask if you want their local lame rip off rate or the market rate. Of course they don't ask it this way.
The machine will ask something like do you want Reals or withdraw $ converted to Reals. Read the question carefully but the answer is "whatever means my bank (schwAb say) will do the exchange not the local one" That is usual answered by saying you want to withdraw Reals.
Good luck!
Sao Paulo will be even more fun very soon. Reopening Cafe Photo Nov 4 and Casarao Nov 11.I guess if they don't open before F1 race, they probably won't open at all. I probably will go check it out tomorrow. I hope I won't be the first and only customer again! LOL.
You pay after in the clinicas. However, if I remember correctly they always made me pay before at Abbobora.I've not been to Brazil since before Covid, but the last time I was in Clinica Brooklin (in 2019), they had moved to 'pay before play' due to guys walking out without paying.
Also, note that Brooklin has now moved and is no longer on Rua Joaquim Guarani (near Clinica Kin). According to Gpguia it moved in the summer to Av. Professor Vicente Rao, 1656 in Jardim Cordeiro.
Hello again,
After reading through the responses, I have decided to carry about 6000 USD in cash now. The rest on card.
My question to the forum now is –.
1. I believe there's a limit to withdrawals from most ATMs in Brazil for security reasons. 1000 BRL am I correct? I read somewhere on the forum that Santander ATM's have a limit of BRL 2500? Would appreciate if you can confirm this or suggest high withdrawal ATM's in Sao Paulo. Will of course go to indoor retail bank locations for safety's sake.
Rough estimate of my expenses if my ideal scenario plays out would be around 3000 BRL in cash (2 girls, through the day, BBFS); 1500 each daily. Maybe more, I don't know yet.
How do I approach this? I doubt the girls will swipe a card!
Also, for the currency exchange from USD to BRL, I plan on calling a Cambio Exchange Service directly to my hotel lobby for a drop-off and exchange. Found a couple online that seem quite legitimate. Anyone have any experience with this?
Thanks for all the help, guys.
SamaRiding
11-04-21, 21:45
I found a new website showing the photos of the daily list of girls in 5 clinicas around SP. Not sure these clinicas are financially connected or this is an independent website trying to gather up the lists into one location.
https://melhoreskamas.com/
Hello again,
After reading through the responses, I have decided to carry about 6000 USD in cash now. The rest on card.
My question to the forum now is .
1. I believe there's a limit to withdrawals from most ATMs in Brazil for security reasons. 1000 BRL am I correct? I read somewhere on the forum that Santander ATM's have a limit of BRL 2500? Would appreciate if you can confirm this or suggest high withdrawal ATM's in Sao Paulo. Will of course go to indoor retail bank locations for safety's sake.
Rough estimate of my expenses if my ideal scenario plays out would be around 3000 BRL in cash (2 girls, through the day, BBFS); 1500 each daily. Maybe more, I don't know yet.
How do I approach this? I doubt the girls will swipe a card!
Also, for the currency exchange from USD to BRL, I plan on calling a Cambio Exchange Service directly to my hotel lobby for a drop-off and exchange. Found a couple online that seem quite legitimate. Anyone have any experience with this?
Thanks for all the help, guys.Please RTFF in the appropriate spaces:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2656-Real-vs-Dollar-and-other-currency-issues
NapataJohn
11-04-21, 22:53
You can also send yourself money using worldremit etc and get it from locations and its very convenient.
Steve 9696
11-05-21, 01:45
Hello again,
After reading through the responses, I have decided to carry about 6000 USD in cash now. The rest on card.
My question to the forum now is .
1. I believe there's a limit to withdrawals from most ATMs in Brazil for security reasons. 1000 BRL am I correct? I read somewhere on the forum that Santander ATM's have a limit of BRL 2500? Would appreciate if you can confirm this or suggest high withdrawal ATM's in Sao Paulo. Will of course go to indoor retail bank locations for safety's sake.
Rough estimate of my expenses if my ideal scenario plays out would be around 3000 BRL in cash (2 girls, through the day, BBFS); 1500 each daily. Maybe more, I don't know yet.
How do I approach this? I doubt the girls will swipe a card!
Also, for the currency exchange from USD to BRL, I plan on calling a Cambio Exchange Service directly to my hotel lobby for a drop-off and exchange. Found a couple online that seem quite legitimate. Anyone have any experience with this?
Thanks for all the help, guys.What? No that is total crap about the limits. I was taking out about 2500 R / day and that was my banks limit not the local bank. Plus you can always use two ATMs or two cards.
. . . After reading through the responses, I have decided to carry about 6000 USD in cash now. The rest on card . . .
How do I approach this? I doubt the girls will swipe a card!
Oddly enough, many high-end SP girls do have their own credit card service machines (ie. SquareOne ...etc). I see this all the time on the PA website. Girls at Mabs/Balcony Bar (in RJ) use to tell me this all the time, if it was like 2am and I told them, I wouldn't the cash until the morning.
Although, I didn't trust them enough, to allow my credit card to be swiped, given all the wide-spread scams in Brazil, associated with the credit card info, being stolen and then used to clean out accounts. This scam, maybe still ongoing, although no reports of such activity, as of late. Best to stick to giving the girls cash, if you can help it.
Also, for the currency exchange from USD to BRL, I plan on calling a Cambio Exchange Service directly to my hotel lobby for a drop-off and exchange. Found a couple online that seem quite legitimate. Anyone have any experience with this?
Not even sure if this is a exchange house service thing for a few K's (USD). Maybe, if you were exchanging a few 100K's (USD), but have at it, I could be wrong and you'll find an exchange house to perform this service.
Recommendations for a nice love motel? Probably going to be calling over an escort, and I've heard mixed reviews about the Hyatt's guest policy. I've looked several pages back with the search functionality but couldn't find anything in the SP forum.
I arrived just before midnight. The place was packed. The layout is similar to Lotus Club but smaller. It also has a sushsi bar. I had a good feeling when I step out of the Uber because the women I saw outside were pretty hot. LOL. Around midnight, there were less than 60 girls inside, possibly less than 50. Quality of girls probably is about the same or less depending on the type of girls you like, I guess. Because the place is small, it is pretty easy to see everyone there. I need to see them close, and this place is perfect.
I met a 19 years old spinner with a very pretty face. She asked 900 and we settled on 600 quickly. She is exactly my type. I would have paid more if she asked. She beats every girl I met at Scandallo by a wide margin, haha. Having said that, I am fully aware that many will disagree and I understand that. We spent sometime making out in the club, DFK and she did not resist any of my advances. She did not have problem making out in front of her friends like she was my girlfriend. I really enjoy the experience. There were at least two other couples making out but I think one of the men is taking advantage of the girl without intention taking the girl to the room.
The club have room on site but it won't be available until next week. This is what the girl told me. The girl took me to a nearby motel and we spent a couple of hours there. The room has a jacuzzi and the cost is R350, not cheap, but I got to spent more time with the girl. With room service the total is about 500. We took the taxi from the club and the same taxi was there waiting for us to come out.
The entrada to the club 350 with 150 consumable. I did not ask more detail about other time as it was so packed. My bill is about 950 at the club. It's already morning so I am going to get some sleep.
SocratesNY
11-05-21, 13:04
Recommendations for a nice love motel? Probably going to be calling over an escort, and I've heard mixed reviews about the Hyatt's guest policy. I've looked several pages back with the search functionality but couldn't find anything in the SP forum.I've had no issues with Grand Hyatt. You just need to register the girl at the front desk and have booked your reservation for 2 or more persons. If it's during the day or not too late at night, you can also go the "backdoor" way via the pool / restaurant entrance and then to the elevators.
As for a good love motel, I had a great time at Lush. It's quite luxurious and a bit pricey.
https://lushmotel.com.br/cat/suite/?lang=en
SocratesNY
11-05-21, 13:37
Hello again,
After reading through the responses, I have decided to carry about 6000 USD in cash now. The rest on card.
My question to the forum now is .
1. I believe there's a limit to withdrawals from most ATMs in Brazil for security reasons. 1000 BRL am I correct? I read somewhere on the forum that Santander ATM's have a limit of BRL 2500? Would appreciate if you can confirm this or suggest high withdrawal ATM's in Sao Paulo. Will of course go to indoor retail bank locations for safety's sake.
Rough estimate of my expenses if my ideal scenario plays out would be around 3000 BRL in cash (2 girls, through the day, BBFS); 1500 each daily. Maybe more, I don't know yet.
I usually only bring $1 k USD, and that's for emergencies. Many girls will take USD in lieu of Reals, especially if you give them a favorable exchange rate of 5:1 to cover their exchange costs.
You can easily get what you need via ATMs. I usually use Bradesco or Satander inside a branch or mall or GRU.
The limits per transaction vary from R1 k to R2. 5 k, but you can do multiple transactions up to your banks daily limit. Also helps to have 2 or more accounts for higher withdrawal limits.
Also set travel advisories, as many transactions in Brazil get flagged as suspicious. Having 2 or 3 ATM cards / credit cards (especially for Uber) helps a lot.
Thanks again,
Found my answers for ATM's from The Cane's post on the money forum.
The drop off exchange service is available for exchanges of over 2 K USD. They will probably charge well for delivery I expect.
On the matter of women.
I have found an Isabelle Drummond (link below). Definitely close to a 10 in my eyes.
She wants 1500 BRL for an hour! This is quite high I believe. How much do you think I should negotiate with her to keep her through the day ?
Is she worth it or will I find her type at Scandallo and pay lower amounts? What do y'all think?
https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/isabelle-drummond/
Hello again,
Also, for the currency exchange from USD to BRL, I plan on calling a Cambio Exchange Service directly to my hotel lobby for a drop-off and exchange. Found a couple online that seem quite legitimate. Anyone have any experience with this?
So you'll get a super lousy rate, just for the sake of saving yourself a short ride to the casa de cambio?
Def only ATMs in banks. So plan ahead and go during the day. But also make sure you answer the question right. They will ask if you want their local lame rip off rate or the market rate. Of course they don't ask it this way.
The machine will ask something like do you want Reals or withdraw $ converted to Reals. Read the question carefully but the answer is "whatever means my bank (schwAb say) will do the exchange not the local one" That is usual answered by saying you want to withdraw Reals.
Good luck!When I purchase with credit card they ask if I want to pay in reals or USD should I be paying in usd because the rates are different?
...I have decided to carry about 6000 USD in cash now. The rest on card....600 USD / day x 14 = 8400 USD.
You have 6000 USD cash, the daily limit should not be a problem even if there is one. Almost everything else can be paid by credit card.
Recommendations for a nice love motel? Probably going to be calling over an escort, and I've heard mixed reviews about the Hyatt's guest policy. I've looked several pages back with the search functionality but couldn't find anything in the SP forum.Plenty of these throughout SP. Any area. I used to go to Lido Motel. Tens of rooms, some with two seater jacuzzi and some with a huge tub accomodating 4 people and a bed so wide I never saw before: we were 5 on it! Even has a pole, discos light and food service included in the room rate (for about 3-4 hrs). They provide as many towel as you ask for during the time you are there. Has its own basement car park with valet service.
I arrived just before midnight. ...I went by Lotus Club first as I made a mistake picking the old address. It looked very slow from outside. I ordered another Uber to go to the new location. I was surprised how busy it was. It was packed both outside and inside that made me feel excited to be there. I think by my counting, the men to women ratio was at least 3 men to 1 woman but that wasn't a problem for me.
The girl started to give me a CBJ when we were in the room even though she said she has no restrictions in the club. She said she would do BBBJ if I didn't like it. Her kisses also became lackluster, no tongue action. Then she proceeded to ride me very hard. I think she was trying to get me to come faster. At this point, the performance in the room was worse than in the club. Now I can throw away all the interview tests in the club. LOL. This is the point of my post.
Then I remembered what Anaggie said about STD tests, I happened to have a blood test including STD tests recently. I had the Brazilian doctor's message confirming the tests were all clean in my WP. I showed her my tests and the doctor's response. That may have improved the situation and she started to give me BBBJ and passionate kisses. At that point, she was also very wet. Later she said Eu pensei que seria como os outros, que nao me faria gozar mas vc fez e eu adorei. But I knew it wasn't me, it was because she didn't do BBBJ and rode me too hard
too long to achieve the orgasm if she really had one. I am not sure the change of attitude is because my test results or her orgasm. Overall, I had a satisfying night.
Just to clarify, I think the girl is very hot but that does not mean she is the prettiest one in the club. I can agree with most people who is the prettiest, but it is likely I won't agree with many about hotness.
One thing I don't like about the club last night was Cafe Photo did not give me an itemized detail and I did not ask for one. I don't think I have ordered that many drinks based on the bill total, and my card never leave me.
Thanks again,
Found my answers for ATM's from The Cane's post on the money forum.
The drop off exchange service is available for exchanges of over 2 K USD. They will probably charge well for delivery I expect.
On the matter of women.
I have found an Isabelle Drummond (link below). Definitely close to a 10 in my eyes.
She wants 1500 BRL for an hour! This is quite high I believe. How much do you think I should negotiate with her to keep her through the day ?
Is she worth it or will I find her type at Scandallo and pay lower amounts? What do y'all think?
https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/isabelle-drummond/That is quite high and there are lots of girls like this at Scandello. Not my type though so I didn't waste my time talking to them. I recommend not to make any bookings till you see what is available in Scandello. As a price comparison, I paid 4 K from Thursday night till Sunday evening with BBFS and CIP but no anal for this one from Scandello.
I have found an Isabelle Drummond (link below). Definitely close to a 10 in my eyes.
She wants 1500 BRL for an hour! This is quite high I believe. How much do you think I should negotiate with her to keep her through the day ?
Is she worth it or will I find her type at Scandallo and pay lower amounts? What do y'all think?
https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/isabelle-drummond/This is extremely high. It begs the question if you willing to pay that much, why are bothering to fly to fly to Brazil? For my own curiosity, I went to read her reviews on the local Portuguese board. She doesn't have any reviews written, but a lot of criticism of her rates. Some of have said she was charging 600 reais in her local city. Some escorts try to make some quick cash by traveling to a new city and leveraging their novelty.
More worrisome, she is very aggressive at putting down people who challenge her rates. Judge the translation for yourself:
"I'm not at your level and I don't intend to be, I want people of only high standards who don't have time to come here and talk shit, this is something for poor people who certainly shouldn't earn what I earn in a day. I do charge 1500, and every day I have clients, all of them high standard, and 1500 doesn't even make a difference in their pockets, unlike you who are poor, and if you are going to pay an expensive companion and you give the value, will be absent for child support. First you earn 100 k per month and then come talk about me! Your poor, go to work to afford a luxury life, because that's what you lack. Ahhh and if any escort is seeing this, charge DEAR because they pay! Only the poor who don't pay, and that's not the one we want to relate to, is it? And remember, high level man, you're tired of seeing chest, ass and ppk on the cover of an ad, and that's what makes me different and earn more than any other escort! Kissessss".
As Anaggie said, go to Scandallo and start to figure things out. You don't seem like a guy who puts a lot of time into researching things so that is your best bet.
Or if you want something lined up before arriving, contact this Drumond who is a certified quality provider for 600 reais including anal.
https://twitter.com/deboradrumondsp
Houston Player
11-06-21, 00:08
When I purchase with credit card they ask if I want to pay in reals or USD should I be paying in usd because the rates are different?When using a credit card always pay in local currency, so the exchange is handled by your bank. If you pay in USD the exchange is handled by the local bank and you will pay more because they will use a poor exchange rate.
SamaRiding
11-06-21, 00:28
I have found an Isabelle Drummond (link below). Definitely close to a 10 in my eyes.
She wants 1500 BRL for an hour! This is quite high I believe. How much do you think I should negotiate with her to keep her through the day ?
Is she worth it or will I find her type at Scandallo and pay lower amounts? What do y'all think?
https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/isabelle-drummond/I think you can find her type in Scandallo. She is not my type either. I agree with Anaggie that you should see the girl in person first. There is a funny thread on this girl on the local forum. Local guys weren't happy about her prices. Though one guy did a video chat with her and thought she was more normal looking. The girl also is responding back online to the hate messages so I kinda feel bad for her. It's her body so she should charge what's she wants. Wasn't there a movie about a guy spending one million dollars for a night for another guys wife. To each their own.
https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=228534
Thanks again,
Found my answers for ATM's from The Cane's post on the money forum.
The drop off exchange service is available for exchanges of over 2 K USD. They will probably charge well for delivery I expect.
On the matter of women.
I have found an Isabelle Drummond (link below). Definitely close to a 10 in my eyes.
She wants 1500 BRL for an hour! This is quite high I believe. How much do you think I should negotiate with her to keep her through the day ?
Is she worth it or will I find her type at Scandallo and pay lower amounts? What do y'all think?
https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/isabelle-drummond/1500 BR per hour is indeed high, very high. Especially for a chick you haven't met before. I think you're much better off meeting them in person at Scandallo. That way you can get a feel for how you get along.
When using a credit card always pay in local currency, so the exchange is handled by your bank. If you pay in USD the exchange is handled by the local bank and you will pay more because they will use a poor exchange rate.Good to know!
I usually only bring $1 k USD, and that's for emergencies. Many girls will take USD in lieu of Reals, especially if you give them a favorable exchange rate of 5:1 to cover their exchange costs.
You can easily get what you need via ATMs. I usually use Bradesco or Satander inside a branch or mall or GRU.
The limits per transaction vary from R1 k to R2. 5 k, but you can do multiple transactions up to your banks daily limit. Also helps to have 2 or more accounts for higher withdrawal limits.
Also set travel advisories, as many transactions in Brazil get flagged as suspicious. Having 2 or 3 ATM cards / credit cards (especially for Uber) helps a lot.Any time I travel abroad I always take enough cash that would cover my expenses for the duration of my stay. This is out of an abundance of caution in case for some reason ATMs and credit cards do not work. I have always returned home with the same amount of cash with which I left.
So it seems at new Cafe Photo also no need to pay saida / exit fee when leaving with a girl, compared to other boates E. G. Scandallo charging 250 BRL? I was actually expecting this would have changed at new location.
I arrived just before midnight. The place was packed. The layout is similar to Lotus Club but smaller. It also has a sushsi bar. I had a good feeling when I step out of the Uber because the women I saw outside were pretty hot. LOL. Around midnight, there were less than 60 girls inside, possibly less than 50. Quality of girls probably is about the same or less depending on the type of girls you like, I guess. Because the place is small, it is pretty easy to see everyone there. I need to see them close, and this place is perfect.
I met a 19 years old spinner with a very pretty face. She asked 900 and we settled on 600 quickly. She is exactly my type. I would have paid more if she asked. She beats every girl I met at Scandallo by a wide margin, haha. Having said that, I am fully aware that many will disagree and I understand that. We spent sometime making out in the club, DFK and she did not resist any of my advances. She did not have problem making out in front of her friends like she was my girlfriend. I really enjoy the experience. There were at least two other couples making out but I think one of the men is taking advantage of the girl without intention taking the girl to the room.
The club have room on site but it won't be available until next week. This is what the girl told me. The girl took me to a nearby motel and we spent a couple of hours there. The room has a jacuzzi and the cost is R350, not cheap, but I got to spent more time with the girl. With room service the total is about 500. We took the taxi from the club and the same taxi was there waiting for us to come out.
The entrada to the club 350 with 150 consumable. I did not ask more detail about other time as it was so packed. My bill is about 950 at the club. It's already morning so I am going to get some sleep.
Any time I travel abroad I always take enough cash that would cover my expenses for the duration of my stay. This is out of an abundance of caution in case for some reason ATMs and credit cards do not work. I have always returned home with the same amount of cash with which I left.That's my standard practice as well. Maybe not quite the amount for my entire stay, but enough for several days, to give me enough time to figure our how to get cash.
I've gone to Cuba quite a few times over the years, and there you have to have enough for your entire stay, or you won't be eating when you run out.
That's my standard practice as well. Maybe not quite the amount for my entire stay, but enough for several days, to give me enough time to figure our how to get cash.
I've gone to Cuba quite a few times over the years, and there you have to have enough for your entire stay, or you won't be eating when you run out.Is this really that big a concern for you folks? I've never landed in a foreign country with more than a hundred USD. Schwab refunds ATM withdrawals, so carrying cash just seems like a pain in the ass. Our modern digital banking system is designed to make international commerce as easy as possible. I have been locked out of my account before, but a phone call has always been able to clear it up. I did forget my debit card in the ATM on multiple instances though, and that was a pain in the ass. Had to have Schwab overnight it internationally. I could see that being a problem, but was able to survive just fine with my credit cards.
So it seems at new Cafe Photo also no need to pay saida / exit fee when leaving with a girl, compared to other boates E. G. Scandallo charging 250 BRL? I was actually expecting this would have changed at new location.The rooms were not ready. I think that will change once the rooms become available. I was told by the girl about the rooms so I am not even sure about that.
Is this really that big a concern for you folks? I've never landed in a foreign country with more than a hundred USD. Schwab refunds ATM withdrawals, so carrying cash just seems like a pain in the ass. Our modern digital banking system is designed to make international commerce as easy as possible. I have been locked out of my account before, but a phone call has always been able to clear it up. I did forget my debit card in the ATM on multiple instances though, and that was a pain in the ass. Had to have Schwab overnight it internationally. I could see that being a problem, but was able to survive just fine with my credit cards.Not a big concern, but I like to be sure. I don't bring a substantial amount. Just enough to help me survive for a few days if I'm unable to access money from ATMs or other sources. Maybe $300-400 or so (obviously more for Cuba).
In contrast, in the USA, I rarely have more than $100 on me.
Anyone carrying several thousand USD in Brasil, Colombia, etc is asking for trouble IMO.
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She wants 1500 BRL for an hour! This is quite high I believe. How much do you think I should negotiate with her to keep her through the day ?
Is she worth it or will I find her type at Scandallo and pay lower amounts? What do y'all think?...I contacted her when she just appeared. My issue was that she wanted 50% prepayment and there was no review at the time and all her photos were the same style with heavy filters.
I am like you, interested in seeing her. From my perspective, I did not find one like her in Scandallo in my recent visits. My guess is that you will have a slim chance finding anyone like her in most of her pictures. I am guessing you would not recognize her even if you see her face to face in Scandallo. Remember this is only my perspective which is just one of many that all can coexist.
I would suggest newbies to focus more on the excitement the club generates seeing so many girls dressed to the nines available. If you are focusing on many 9's or 10's available, you may be disappointed. It is YMMV, partly depending on your taste. The pictures are valuable. You can find girls Anaggie posted in Scandallo, that I agree.
The price is quite high but I think you should not let that stop you if she can deliver. 10 by definition is hard to find already and you may end up paying something similar if you go the Scandallo route.
Will I want to see her now? probably not. The problem with many girls is that they can easily ruin their image once they open their mouth. The locals were saying she was trans or her pictures were from a trans, so she got offended but she talked too much for my taste
Is this really that big a concern for you folks? I've never landed in a foreign country with more than a hundred USD. Schwab refunds ATM withdrawals, so carrying cash just seems like a pain in the ass. Our modern digital banking system is designed to make international commerce as easy as possible. I have been locked out of my account before, but a phone call has always been able to clear it up. I did forget my debit card in the ATM on multiple instances though, and that was a pain in the ass. Had to have Schwab overnight it internationally. I could see that being a problem, but was able to survive just fine with my credit cards.Excellent advice. This is how I operate abroad as well. This currency issue and the Schwab solution specifically have been discussed periodically.
There are always a few guys who operate in cash businesses where they basically take untaxed cash out of their safe and pay for their vacation. Then there are those who just like operating in cash and don't want to rely on the electronic money system. They latter have stated their case here before.
A buddy sent me these pics of the renovations going on inside Casarao.
They may be from their website.
Not sure.
Hopefully to open soon!
EverythingBlue
11-08-21, 21:21
A buddy sent me these pics of the renovations going on inside Casarao.
They may be from their website.
Not sure.
Hopefully to open soon!Reopening is happening this week on 11/11 per their IG at casaraoaugustaoficial.
The club have room on site but it won't be available until next week. This is what the girl told me. The girl took me to a nearby motel and we spent a couple of hours there. The room has a jacuzzi and the cost is R350, not cheap, but I got to spent more time with the girl. With room service the total is about 500. We took the taxi from the club and the same taxi was there waiting for us to come out.Thanks for the report. Good to know they are open now. I plan to visit during my next trip.
Why motel? Is taking girl back to your hotel / place not an option?
Vagabundo1
11-10-21, 03:10
I will be glad to see casaro again.
I took a prive girl there who wanted to rate her ass against those of the asses on offer there.
Thanks for the information.
A buddy sent me these pics of the renovations going on inside Casarao.
They may be from their website.
Not sure.
Hopefully to open soon!
This is going to be a long post as this will summarize my 8 day stay in SP back in September. Never had a chance to sit down and write down my adventures but it's long overdue. Shout out to all the posters who post daily on their trips. I can never seem to do that.
This report will offer some tips and some insights as well as locations but since it's been two months it won't be as complete but none the less very informative.
So before I even started my voyage to the land of Don Pedro the II I met some forum members that were going on the same dates as I was and it really made a world of difference. We all got along very well and following some of their insights and intel I was able to procure a very interesting trip with one girl in particular. The great thing about having buddies with you is you get more intel and insight than you can ever get by yourself. See which house is open, how many girls and so on. My last trip I went solo and although it was very fun I definitely enjoyed having some company especially in the boates. Makes the waiting go by faster for sure.
CASH.
So I exchanged $300 USD to reals back home before I boarded and it's not really necessary. There are ATMs at GRU where you can take cash out (2500 BRL x2) and that's enough to get you into the city and look for other ATMs if you need more but honestly you really shouldn't unless you are doing an orgy or getting overcharged by a girl. Brazil unlike other countries (UK, Spain, Germany, Canada) is very card friendly. All the houses and boates accept card although yes some charge like a 5% card fee but I think it's a non issue given the exchange rate. Some online girls also have a card charging machine as well so really different from other countries. Of course some of us don't want charges to show up on card statements so I understand that. Used Uber with card payments. Never had an issue using my card. Always good to carry some BRL in cash on hand though.
TESTING.
So my flight left on a Wednesday 9 PM and I got my PCR test Sunday 8:43 PM and they wouldn't allow me on the plane because it was off by 17 minutes from the 72 HR timeframe. Luckily I was able to get a quick 1 HR PCR test at the airport but just barely made it. Really dumb but it happens frequently apparently so I'd advise coming 2-3 HRs early so you don't run into that issue.
LOCATION and SAFETY.
Landing in SP I met up with one poster and we rode into the city early in the morning ready to pillage. I got a place in Republica area which I would advise you not to do. The area can be very sketchy, the nearby park is full of streetwalkers (not my thing), drunks fighting and many more debauchery. There are some really nice condos in that area but it just doesn't seem to be worth the hassle. Alot of the girls I brought over were hesitant to step out the car until I came out to let them in and many mentioned that the area is sort of dangerous. I did almost get my phone stole while trying to get a drink at night. Be wary of people on bikes as they seem to be the ones that will try to grab your phones. Get pants with pocket zippers and try to get a lanyard or something attached to your phone to your person so someone can't jut grab it out of your hand. It's also a little far from the action of the clinicas and boates and online girls. Best locations seem to be Brooklin, Jardims, Moema. Very safe and much closer to the action. Another word of advice is to always make sure you let other people know you are aware of their presence. No one will try to mess with you if they know you see them. Brazilian muggers always target the unsuspecting. Easy prey. Do your Google Map searches in stores or at least keep your ass to the wall. Barcelona which is known as the pickpocket capital of the world, is also not that bad. I had no issues and like Brazil it seems they target drunks or clueless tourists. People are very friendly here and I would walk all over in day or night and didn't have any issues.
1ST DAY.
I'll start with my first day as I know that best but the rest will just be a rundown more or less.
Started clinica hopping in the afternoon.
Started with a very small one named Congonahs that is this blue building. Kinda far away from the main ones. Only had 4 girls and the best one was already taken so I didn't session. Never went back but it looks kinda promising. Mostly 28+ women so good for someone looking for a more mature girl rather than the standard 21 yr old.
Then I went to Abbobora which is still my top place. There were many girls. About 11-13. I sessioned with a girl named sofia and she was very good. I believe she was part Venezuelan so she spoke Spanish which helped. Got her Whatsapp and went to get some lunch with my fellow forum poster and talked about our sessions as he went to house 57.
We both had decent sessions but nothing to brag home about just yet. I had booked an online girl a week before I arrived in SP and so I had to go and get ready for this girl since she was the one I was eagerly waiting for. Of course she was about an hour late, even with timely reminders and messages but when she arrived she was exactly what I wanted and traveled 9 hours for! Lets call her Harley.
She was a young white redhead german-brazilian from Porto Alegre. Feisty sex addict girl with a heart of gold. A real Madonna with horns. Session was incredible and she ended up staying way past her hour to keep me company. Very GFE, as one poster stated, these girls act like ambassadors of Brazil to foreigners! One of the main reason I would bestow Brazil as the top destination for mongering is this very reason. I liked the girls in Barcelona and Montreal but you wouldn't ever get this type of GFE over there. I would later learn this was only the beginning. I jokingly asked her if she wanted to go to RJ with me in 10 days and she said she would think about it and gave me her personal number.
After she left I ended up going to Scandallo with the other forum posters after 8 pm. I was showing the new guy the ropes and we ate some dinner while looking at the talent. The club area was open but doesn't get started until after 10. A good amount of girls but nothing crazy. Maybe like 80. I saw lots of girls I sessioned with from my last trip there and they all greeted me warmly. I found it funny how they remembered me right away but I guess I'll just leave that to my performance kkkk.
Between my first and last trip which was about 7 months or so I did about 15-30 minutes of Portuguese duolingo practice and it really paid off. I am already quite fluent in Spanish so that helped and to be fair it was more of a porto-nol than porto but it helped immensely. Spanish is similar but not close enough to porto so you can't just rely on your spanish to carry you. I'd be like saying you can understand italian because you speak spanish since they are from the same language tree. Some words are similar but it quickly deviates. Read some posters talk about it. You can always use Google Translate of course, its your best friend, but I was able to quickly put most girls at ease and get her away from her business mode.
I ended up sessioning with a brunette after waiting around for some time. Total was 600 BRL + 230 BRL for the room. Entrance was 400 BRL. It was great session as she had the best bunda and was a horny drunk. Unfortunately she was a one pump and dump girl so that really lackluster.
The girls are scandallo (at least in September) were really business sharks. Back in January I scored girls for 500 easily after some talk and drinks but this time around it was sales pitch to get these girls to 600. Some girls were at 1000 and stuck at 800. The new guy tried this asian girl but she wouldn't budge from 1000 and 4 other guys did the same and left her. It seemed to be a bit common with others. Seems like these girls were trying to score big but ended up losing more in the long run. Was a different vibe from January. With Scandallo being the only big close boate in town (connection was a DRIVE) I guess these girls got smart. For some this upcharge isn't that big of deal as 200 or 300 reals is like 40 or 60 USD but it does change the dynamics a bit.
Now I'll get to doing a rundown of 10 days with specifics and then a more detailed report of my first Brazilian Super GFE.
CLINICAS.
All these Clinicas are around 230-260 BRL for 1 HR for one girl and 350-420 BRL for 1 HR for two girls.
Some offer 1/2 HRs but I never do those so not sure the pricing and which ones but was something like 150 BRL or so.
They all accept cards and you get a discount using cash of course.
Add their numbers and message them to add you to their whatsapp so you can get updates.
You can get the girls whatsapp and negotiate a good pernoite or longer session for much cheaper than boate girls.
CL Moema Prime.
I would actually put this in tie with Abbobora! The girls here are really sensual and they always do updates on their whatsapp and the lady at the reception is super friendly and always does her best to try to get you a time with the girl of your choice! I was running late for a 3 some and she was able to move some time around so I got the full hour. Girls here get booked quite often so if you have a girl in mind it's always good to book thru whatsapp or in person ahead of time. There's usually 8 girls or so in rotation and what's a bit strange is that they'll bring out girls who are already booked during the presentation. Several times I was told the girl I wanted already had an appointment which sucked. I guess it's good in a way as you are now aware this girl exists instead of never seeing her in the first place so you can book her later. I sessioned 4 times here and was always satisfied. Other thing is that there seems to be a lack of available rooms sometimes so you have to wait until a clean room is ready. I always went to the same room which was odd.
CL ABBOBORA.
My favorite place with lots of girls in rotation. I sessioned here 3 times and had a great time except for one girl that was just mediocre. Lots of hot girls and clean good beds although I would mention the bed isn't a traditional one. It's more of a low flat massage bed. Big mirror on the side is a plus. Kinda like yoga mat or so but better. So for taller guys it can be hard to do some positions with a bed like that.
CL ENJOY SPA.
I sessioned here once but liked it very much! Their bed is exactly like Abbobora but with one mirror in front of the bed. I forget the name of the girl I sessioned with but she looked like a emma watson type with braces. Really hot and shy but very sensual. I'm really into GND types (I'm into all kinds tbh but that's my main) and she was just right. Enjoy Spa is across the highway from the other clinicas so it's a bit of a ways out but can be promising.
CL HOUSE 57.
This place is like a mini daytime boate. The girls are all hanging out in the resturante area so there is no need for a presentation although you can ask for one. Theres two bar areas and a main hall to eat and play some pool. Really lowkey and you can talk and interact with the girls to get a vibe before sessioning. Different concept for sure from the other places. I went twice but never sessioned as I never found a type I liked. The receptionist was very friendly and spoke great english and at night after 8 pm it becomes a boate where girls from the other aforementioned boates come and party. Never went to the late night party but heard it can be good and a low cost alternative. Have to check it out as I liked the layout and concept and all the girls were very friendly.
CL Lotus Lounge.
This place is a 15 min drive away from all the other clinicas. They use an Ipad with all the available girls pics and info for you to chose like CL Carinas. I went twice but there were only 5 girls both times I went although they had 20 girls in their rooster. Hard to tell if it would be a good session since you never see the girl before. I was going to try and session the 2nd try just to report back but the girl I wanted got booked before I could book her. They seem to have good reviews so could be a good place and would advise anyone to try it and report back. They have a little shrine to a cat next to their front door which I found a bit funny. RIP Lotus Cat.
All in All, the clinicas are good day time fun with good performance but nothing really spectacular this time around. Clinica girls do a good performance but GFE isn't quite there as they are constantly with other guys especially locals so it's not as satisfying at least for me. I did meet a really chill clinica girl last time I was here but didn't get her number so missed out.
BOATES.
SCANDALLO.
What can I say that hasn't been said already.
It's changed since I came in Jan. They redid the whole club area and made it more modern look instead of a 90's american club that it looked like before. It looks great and looks like they want to cater to more high rollers and club goers. The entrance fee was 400. It was 300 in Jan. The vibe is a bit different as the girls like I said before were more cunning and werent just flirty back and forth and having a good time. To be fair, that could just be the girls I was into so YMMV but that seemed to be the vibe I was getting. I went 3 times to Scandallo and sessioned 2 of the 3 times. Both for 600 and really good sessions but nothing mind blowing. The last time I went the cover was 800! They had a famous brazilian band come play that night and I decided to go that night just to see what it'd look like since lots of girls were pouring in. I got there at 8 pm and the band didn't play til 11 pm so it was getting more full as the night went on. That day I would say there was 200+ girls but lots of guys too. As soon as the band started playing all the girls left the smoking and resturante area and went to the club area and went to dance. It was packed but it did seem like not many people were going to the rooms. There was a famous Brazilian TikToker that was there with his GF and friends so it does look like they want to bring some more regular high spenders to the club not just mongers. I didn't session that night as it was too crazy and the girls were charging more that night than before. I left and came back later but they had an issue with their system so I wasn't allowed back in which was BS.
I think Scandallo is still one of the top places you can go to find some quality girls as some of my fellow forum posters that were with me bagged a legit model, a doctor in training and fitness instructor. Some girls only come here because the barrier to entrance deters your average brazilian men and so there is some anonymity for them. So you can find some really high class girls or even GND that just need to money. There's just about a girl for anyone here. I'll always come here on my visits but it'd be smart to come before 8 pm to get the 200 entrance and then return after 11 when the club is open and more girls are in. Wish their rooms had better mirrors.
BOMBOA.
A small club across from lotus club. It's really classy looking and there's two stories. It does seem like once you get there and sit down they expect you to just sit and watch the girls walk around. Walking around and looking at the girls seems to not be normal as one other poster mentioned. It's a bit dark and the live band can be kind of loud. The girls here were pretty hot and came twice. I sessions once and it was a good experience with good BBBJ. The room is a bit plain. There's a shower in the room and a nice big mirror in front of the bed. Entrance was 200 but all consumable. Girls were like 400-600. Room was another 200 I think. So just a bit cheaper than scandallo. It's an okay place but nothing to boast about. I did see one girl I wanted to session on my 2nd trip but she was taken before I could talk to her. The girls here are very chill and some will sit down and try to talk but won't try to sell. Very lowkey and worth checking out.
CONNECTIONS.
This place is FAR! It's about an hour drive or so from the Moema area and I had a hard time trying to get an Uber to go there! I even tried Uber Black and had to wait 25 minutes until I could secure a ride. Getting a ride back was also a challenge. It's a bit of a journey. Entrance was pretty cheap like 100 BRL and girls were like 500-600 BRL with rooms going at 200 or so and they look exactly like the ones in Scandallo. The girls here are a bit more party orientated and it's kinda nice to see these girls moves before. The live band is kinda loud but you can always go to the restaurant area for some less noise. I sessioned twice here and the quality of girls here are pretty nice. There were some older women like 30+ and not many like scandallo but a good amount of hotties. I went with one girl who looked like a mini Vanessa Hudgens and a girl who was TV presenter. Both really hot with great service! Food is pretty good here too. There's one waiter named Michael who speaks great english was good at bringing girls over and helping out. I would have never gone here if the other forum posters didn't come and I actually liked it alot. It's not something I would do everynight but it's definitely worth the travel I believer if you have time.
OLINE GIRLS.
I didn't have much success with online girls this time around. I set up a few before I arrived and most fell apart or never responded.
The two I did get were late so it's always best to book them an hour early than you want them if you're on a schedule. It can be annoying and one of forum poster almost missed his flight because of it.
I did have this problem where some girls wanted some of the payment thru PIX or Pic-Pay which I couldn't do since I'm not brazilian and don't have a CPF. Anyone have a solution to this? I had to skip some girls because of this.
Bringing girls over your AirBnB or Hotel isn't really an issue if you booked your place for two guests. If a hotel tries to charge you, you should tell them about your 2nd guest and they'll back off. Of course it also depends on what your girl is wearing. If she's nicely dressed most places won't stop you.
My Airbnb I had to let me host know ahead of time of my guest so they can tell the security or give them their info when they arrive. That can be annoying but these girls know the drill.
FINALLY FOR THE GRAND FINALE.
After my first time with Harley I decided to book her for a pernoite. Funny enough I saw her at Scandallo 3 hours after our first visit, so I wonder how much she upcharges over there. I never did a pernoite the first time I was in Brazil and decided she seem cool enough. She wanted 1500 but she easily accepted 1000. Could have probably gotten her down to 800 but I really think she was worth 1000.
Following the strategy of a friend back home I decided to make this night a bit special. I rushed around to find a flower shop and bought her a bouquet of roses. It was like 150 BRL for a dozen fresh roses which is super cheap. She was 1 HR late as usual for online girls. As soon as entered my condo I surprised her with the flowers and she was swooned. Her GFE went up a peg. We had some great fun and she was ready to just continue until we couldn't any longer but I had other plans. There's a really nice restaurant in republica named Terraço Italia which is on the 45th floor and gives you amazing views of the city at night. I told her to bring a nice dress but her dress had a hole in it, was bright pink, was short and she wasn't wearing any panties or bra. This place was an upscale place so we made a quick trip to the mall to get her dressed up LOL straight from there we went to the restaurant and enjoyed a nice dinner that cost about 600 BRL. The same dinner back home would be like $200 so it was good value. They had a musician play piano all night and it was definitely the most fanciest place she had been to for sure. Once we entered my room she was ready to pay it forward. I lost count how many times we went at it but I do remember we ran out of condoms. We fell asleep very late and when I woke up it was a sight to behold. She woke up very late around 11 AM which I would later find out was normal if not early for her.
I got her an uber and scheduled another pernoite which she was happily looking forward to.
The 2nd time around was actually my last night in SP.
She came around 6 pm and we had some quick fun before we left for dinner. I'm a big food big and with the cheap prices and great cuisine I would go out every night. This time around we went to Figueira Rubaiyat. Cool restaurant with a giant tree in the middle of the place. Great selection of meats! 600 BRL in total. We both noticed a bunch of desserts with sparklers coming out of the kitchen. I went to the waiter and told him to do the same for my girl. After our dinner he brought out the dessert and she was losing her mind. She loved it and it only cost 30 BRL and some basic porto. She was ready to do anything as soon as we got back. My condo has a shared balcony and I told her jokingly we should fuck out there and she said sure with a mischievous smile. Theres a sort of transparent glass that separates the balcony from my neighbor so they could see us but she didn't care and she didn't lower her noise level either. She just wanted to get fucked. Such a different attitude from the online girl I had last trip who was worried someone from the building way across from us could see us thru the window LOL. After that I told her I wanted to make a sex video with her and she said lets do it! So I brought out my camera equipment and she took directions and posed for the camera the entire time! This girl was such a freak and even after all that she was still ready to go for more. I had truly met my match that night! Before I past out from exhaustion I asked her if she was down to go to rio with me since I was leaving in the afternoon. She said no problem and we settled for 5 days since I was going to be in RJ for 10 and I wanted some variety after she left. Booked her a flight that was leaving in 8 hours. She got up to go get packed and leave. No money was exchanged for the pernoite and no talk about money about the trip to RJ. She was just happy to go since she never left SP. Although it seemed a little weird to wine and dine this girl since she was ready to fuck, these little extra steps really help secure a better GFE experience than I ever had and since I was to have her for 5 nights for just a flight ticket it actually saved me money to do all of this. Maybe I was super lucky. Doesn't hurt I'm young as well and our chemistry was great at the first meet. I wouldn't advise to do something like this on your first trip (depends on your chemistry of course, always trust your instincts) but with my good porto and she actually spoke good spanish and english it was a good set up. She was very carefree and she never asked for anything or said / did anything to annoy me unlike most girls I've met. Like another poster said, after a few hours these girls destroy themselves by talking about the dumbest things. Most of the girls in SP that I session with I enjoyed my time but afterwards they would say some really weird and crazy thoughts they had. I just could never see myself putting up with that for so long. I always heard about the ultimate brazilian GFE experience and I found it funny how I found it in SP since the girls here are so business oriented (little did I know this was nothing until I reached Rio).
I guess some good tip would be to wine and dine a girl you really can get along with. Everything here is really cheap in comparison to the US so really good value. After you do, they'll do anything you want. At the end of the day these girls are girls and they love to be spoiled. But I would say spoil them with things like experiences that you both can enjoy. Like a dinner or night out or something like that. I always made sure to not buy her anything like jewelry or something like that. Some girls can change after that and will expect gifts like that and can ruin them. They'll look at you as ATM machine instead of the guy to have fun with. There's a fine line for sure. Most brazilian guys don't do any of this stuff and most can't afford to even if they wanted so you'd be surprise how easy it is to swoon these girls. It pays in dividends and I was about to see how much it was going to pay out.
I'll continue my Saga in the RJ Forum .
SamaRiding
11-11-21, 06:57
(little did I know this was nothing until I reached Rio).
I guess some good tip would be to wine and dine a girl you really can get along with. Everything here is really cheap in comparison to the US so really good value. After you do, they'll do anything you want. At the end of the day these girls are girls and they love to be spoiled. But I would say spoil them with things like experiences that you both can enjoy. Like a dinner or night out or something like that. I always made sure to not buy her anything like jewelry or something like
I'll continue my Saga in the RJ Forum.Great report. We have very similar taste!
I have had great experiences with online. You mentioned you didn't have much luck with many others but your GF Harley was an online girl. I love redheads before Brazil and real reds are not unusual in SP. Maybe that's why I love it so much. A lot of girls, whether online and in the clinicas Or boates, are much more GFE if you do a second or more sessions with them and you take them back to your place. I have only done one Very nice pernoite, usually I get them for two hours at my place. You and other posters have had amazing amazing experiences with weekend long or Multi day trips arrangements. I may have to try it out. Though I really like the variety each day, I usually session with 3 to 4 different girls each day. Sticking just one girl seems too wtoo GF And my Porto skills are bad so I just think communications would be too strained for a whole trip. On point with your description of the different boates, and I can't wait to try photo and Cascaro (sp?) next time also. Connections during the pandemic was a fun party place, though have to see when back to non COVID times.
I also been to the terrace Italian rooftop restaurant. One of the Scandallo girls recommended that we go and it was a classy date. Hahaha. The girls do appreciate nice restaurants and clubs. And do not pay girls a fee to go for food or drinks! I tell the girls that I will take them and pay for the food and drinks and it's for fun. If we have sex, I will pay for sex time only. Most girls will take you up on the offer.
JonesLover
11-11-21, 08:12
Hi,
I don't know Brazil at all and I would like to ask 2 questions.
1) How easy is it to fuck regular girls (non pro 18-26 yo) for an old good looking European (65 yo)? How much money do they expect for ST and overnight?
2) I know that the "Brazilian real" has been devalued a lot, so I would like to know if Brazil has become very cheap to live and fuck there for a month as a tourist.
Thank you for your info.
This is going to be a long post ...Thanks for taking the time to write a great report.
I like and have wrote about Republica area. I did not stay in this area but I visit this area in all hours. I came to monger and also for the food, culture and the people. This area is dirty, many homeless, can feel unsafe and it probably is compare to other areas. But if one is a food person with similar taste to me, this area should not be missed. Just to name a few, it has the best 24 hours lanchonete and sandwich place I have been to. One waiter here is so used to me that he would tell me what is not available before I order it. I enjoy sitting with the locals and see what they eat and how they eat so I can repeat the next time. It has a one Michelin star restaurant which costs less than 150 R instead of 500 R to 1000 R that I also had elsewhere. It also has a very modern and unique bar in a dungeon in a museum. The first time I went to this bar, the door person, waiter, bar tender and the guests sit on both sides on me all spoke English. I have been to other upscale bars but people are not as friendly and it was boring. If interested, these places can be found easily on google map.
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Why motel? Is taking girl back to your hotel / place not an option?I am probably too cautious. Mainly because I don't want to deal with the inconvenience losing stuff might cause in my situation. I am also curios about the motel.
(This is going to be a long post as this will summarize my 8 day stay in SP back in September. Never had a chance to sit down and write down my adventures but it's long overdue. Shout out to all the posters who post daily on their trips. I can never seem to do that.).
Great post. These are the kind I come here for. I need intel for the ground and too many folks post crap under reports that have nothing to do with the trip intel which makes it hard to navigate the pages looking for updated info. I appreciate your time, and please keep it up. I was there in Sept too. Had a good time. At first I was not pressed to return but you hyped me up. I just want pre-covid atmosphere so I will wait a little.
WarmBlankets
11-11-21, 13:15
I'll continue my Saga in the RJ Forum.Amazing report. I am very much looking forward to reading about your adventures in Rio. Thank you for sharing.
We both had decent sessions but nothing to brag home about just yet. I had booked an online girl a week before I arrived in SP and so I had to go and get ready for this girl since she was the one I was eagerly waiting for. Of course she was about an hour late, even with timely reminders and messages but when she arrived she was exactly what I wanted and traveled 9 hours for! Lets call her Harley.
She was a young white redhead german-brazilian from Porto Alegre. Feisty sex addict girl with a heart of gold. A real Madonna with horns. Session was incredible and she ended up staying way past her hour to keep me company. Very GFE, as one poster stated, these girls act like ambassadors of Brazil to foreigners! One of the main reason I would bestow Brazil as the top destination for mongering is this very reason. I liked the girls in Barcelona and Montreal but you wouldn't ever get this type of GFE over there. I would later learn this was only the beginning. I jokingly asked her if she wanted to go to RJ with me in 10 days and she said she would think about it and gave me her personal number.Bearsi,
Great report! Thanks on the clinica intel.
I'm curious. Is "Harley" an escort that advertises on-line? (I realize that you made up that name.) If so, perhaps we can ask you to divulge her website. These girls need the business and we guys could use reliable escort contacts.
Fresh off a broken heart, I decided that there was no better place to spend my time than Sau Paulo. And so far, I've been proven correct!
There was no question about where I would spend my first night. Scandallo. This is Formula 1 week, which is supposed to be pretty much peak Scandallo, so I didn't want to miss it. On Wednesday night, it was absolutely packed, way way busier than it was on any of my previous visits. In addition to it being F1 week, there was also a famous live Brazilian band performance that night, which made it extra crowded. Furthermore, the entry fee was 800 of which 300 was consumption. I wonder if it's going to be like that all F1 week, or just because of the concert.
Inside, as I said, absolutely packed. Tons of dudes and girls. There had to have been about 300 girls that night. I remember standing in the back outdoor patio and quickly losing count of all the chicks. As usual, the majority of girls I wouldn't have paid to fuck. In fact, I would say there were many more chunky types than I saw before, but that just might be because there were more women in general. But rest assured, there were many many hotties as well.
This time around I was a bit more proactive and I was moving around, walking, and trying to chat with girls I liked rather than having them come by me. Well, I was kinda forced to haha because there was not a single table available for people who were not buying bottles. I like the proactive approach, it's like I'm on the hunt. It still wasn't easy though. The girls are often on the move which makes it very easy to lose track of them. I was eyeing this one girl but she quickly disappeared to another room with her friend. I decided to risk the creepy vibe by following her, but she had disappeared. Oh well.
I finally bagged my classic Brazilian blonde, a tall one from German stock who claims to only have started at Scandallo 3 days ago. I did get a bit of a business-like vibe from her, namely she wasn't super flirty / close to me, and asked me if I wanted to go to the room (I usually broach that subject with the girls, not the other way around). But I was determined that I just had to have a hot blonde tonight, and I was letting her get away. And fortunately, she gave a very solid performance in the room. Great kissing, BBBJ, no BS. I have yet to be disappointed at Scandallo. Money-wise, she opened negotiations at 1500, I countered with 600, then 800, and then we settled on 1000.
Total damage was 500 entry + 300 consumption + 250 ish for the room + 1000 for the girl = 2050 BRL = 380 USD. It's a bit expensive, but whatever. You know what you're getting yourself into when you come here.
The next day, Thursday afternoon, I decided to head out to the clinicas again. I wanted to give them another shot, because the last time I came was during a holiday week. There were more chicks this time, but my assessment of the clinicas remains the same. It's just not the right setup for me. First of all, there simply are not that many hot women. Across Abbobora, Miruna, and Prime I only saw maybe 2 or 3 that I would consider picking. And with such little opportunity to build any chemistry, really only looking at them for 10 seconds during the presentation, and being stone cold sober (I guess that one's my fault haha), I really did not feel the vibes. I picked a girl at Abbobora, but I just had absolutely no desire to put my P in her V, even though she was pretty cute. I would have been ok with just a BJ, but after going for a while she wasn't amazing and I had mentally checked out. So I called it a day, and decided to save my masculine essences for the upcoming night at Scandallo. Waste of 260 BRL (Abbobora does not have a half hour option), but it's less than 50 USD so I'm not too concerned.
So yeah, I think I'll pretty much just stick with Scandallo. I want to check out Bomboa and Cafe Photo, but I'm nervous about wasting any of the precious few nights I'm here. I'll probably go there on an off-day, maybe Friday or Saturday. I also want to try out some online escorts from Twitter / Clubmodel / SPlove.
SamaRiding
11-13-21, 21:21
With 2 million people of Japanese descent in São Paulo, I thought there would be more Japanese working girls. I am Asian and Japanese looking enough that the locals always think I live there and even ask me for directions on the street. I looked on my last trip and found very few Japanese girls even online. And a bunch of them are fake Japanese. Even on the local forum, guys have asked and very few responses. I would like there would be Japanese clinicas or prives, maybe they are a hidden secret for just the locals like some Chinese only massage parlors in Flushing New York. Maybe I can get in since I can pass off as Japanese. Hahaha. Not sure if anybody here knows. Much appreciated.
DreamCarnarvon
11-13-21, 21:40
There were more chicks this time, but my assessment of the clinicas remains the same. It's just not the right setup for me. First of all, there simply are not that many hot women. Across Abbobora, Miruna, and Prime I only saw maybe 2 or 3 that I would consider picking.
So yeah, I think I'll pretty much just stick with Scandallo. I want to check out Bomboa and Cafe Photo, but I'm nervous about wasting any of the precious few nights I'm here. I'll probably go there on an off-day, maybe Friday or Saturday. I also want to try out some online escorts from Twitter / Clubmodel / SPlove.I always feel like the clinicas don't get enough love here on ISG. I do want to preface with what I am about to say with this: if you are in the mindset of fucking nothing but model type girls in SP, then Scandallo is the route to go. Period. But if you have the time and patience and don't mind fucking GFE 7's then the clinicas are a great choice.
Although Abbobora, Prime, and Miruna are 3 of the more popular clinicas among us gringos, they are just the tip of the iceberg. By my rough estimate, I say there are at least 70 clinicas + prives in the city of SP alone. There are also numerous clinicas + prives in the surrounding cities of Santo Andre, SBC, Guarulhos, Osasco, etc. Lets just be conservative and say each one has an average of 5 girls in their lineup, then you are looking at 350 girls. I've stayed in SP for 6 months last year. And to me, although Prime had a decent if not consistent lineup, it was top heavy IMO. Miruna's lineup was bad every time I visited it. I don't know about Abbobora since I never visited it. I was visiting 3-5 clinicas everyday, mostly ones rarely visited by us gringos, and I almost always found someone I liked. There were many days where I had a hard time choosing which ones to visit. I will be objective and say that the majority of the clinica girls are 6 or below (face). About 0 (rare) - 5 (at each clinica) in the range of 7, 0 - 2 in the range of 8. As for 9's, I would say I probably sessioned with 5 in total. So the clinica route will definitely be a grind if you want to find the 8's and above. Broaden your horizon and go explore a bit. I promise you will be positively surprised. One of the gems on my last trip was Clinica Morengo in Tatuape. I had more sessions there than any other clinicas. They have closed down now but they moved to a new address with a new name, Clinica Diamente. Other clinicas worth visiting that are outside of the city are Clinica Nova Campestre and CLínica Prime (formerly Manhattan) in Santo Andre, and CLínica Mansão Elite in SBC. I even bumped into several girls who worked in SP at these clinicas.
With 2 million people of Japanese descent in So Paulo, I thought there would be more Japanese working girls. ...I found a small cluster on twitter so you can start from there.
I always feel like the clinicas don't get enough love here on ISG. I do want to preface with what I am about to say with this: if you are in the mindset of fucking nothing but model type girls in SP, then Scandallo is the route to go. Period. But if you have the time and patience and don't mind fucking GFE 7's then the clinicas are a great choice.I like what you say about the clinicas. It's just that everybody's optics scale is different. For me, the clinicas are overwhelmingly 6's and down. Yes, you can find some 7's which is my minimum, but too many of the clinica girls just don't meet my optics standards. I'm much happier going to the nightclubs or using a reliable online source (there are a handful).
With 2 million people of Japanese descent in So Paulo, I thought there would be more Japanese working girls. I am Asian and Japanese looking enough that the locals always think I live there and even ask me for directions on the street. I looked on my last trip and found very few Japanese girls even online. And a bunch of them are fake Japanese. Even on the local forum, guys have asked and very few responses. I would like there would be Japanese clinicas or prives, maybe they are a hidden secret for just the locals like some Chinese only massage parlors in Flushing New York. Maybe I can get in since I can pass off as Japanese. Hahaha. Not sure if anybody here knows. Much appreciated.Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the wealthiest people in Brazil are the Japanese so Japanese women do not need to provide sexual relief to make a living. That being said I have banged two Japanese working girls in Brazil, one in Miruna and another in Tangara.
Mongerer88
11-14-21, 16:09
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the wealthiest people in Brazil are the Japanese so Japanese women do not need to provide sexual relief to make a living. That being said I have banged two Japanese working girls in Brazil, one in Miruna and another in Tangara.Just curious if they work at the high end for Japanese tourists (although maybe high-end Japanese tourists don't go to Brazil).
There was an escort who used to tour Chicago every month or two, but lived in Las Vegas, who had a Japanese mom and a Brazilian dad. She spoke English, Portuguese and Japanese.
Really hot girl and a great fuck.
She told me she just saw Japanese customers in Las Vegas. She did not advertise but instead built up a relationship with concierge guys and serviced Japanese "whales" at a really high price per hour. She worked under a completely different name when touring other cities, so as not too damage her brand.
I hadn't realized that the two countries have a lot of connections until I met her.
I was also amused when I went to Thailand about how a few places marketed themselves almost exclusively to the Japanese, but maybe that has changed.
Why are wealthy Japanese guys willing to pay more for perceived exclusivity?
Why are wealthy Japanese guys willing to pay more for perceived exclusivity?My impression from SE Asia is that Japanese businessmen like a certain style of courtesan. This courtesan style might be an extension of the Japanese geisha.
I'm sure you are familiar with KTV girls (K=Karoake) in SE Asia. It seems like the Japanese men like the company and entertainment of the girls more than any sexual dalliance later. It wouldn't surprise me if a KTV joint with girls for hire exists in Sao Paulo.
As far as two million of Japanese descent in Sao Paulo? I think that number is expanded by fractional representation. They're are a lot of Paulistas with a quarter or eighth Japanese heritage. You can spend an afternoon in Liberdade having sushi and exploring the Japanese shops. There are some cute Japanese girls who the younger members can chat up.
That leads me to Brazilian=Japanese escorts. You will see a few escorts with some Asian features advertising their Asian ethnicity. While many of them are attractive, most of them do not look 100% Asian. For the Asian connoisseur, the advantage of Brazil is you can find an escort with Asian looks and Brazilian curves.
As far as two million of Japanese descent in Sao Paulo?This article says 1.5 million. It's about 4 years old though, so 2 million isn't so much of an unreasonable stretch I don't think. Anyway, as the article says, more Japanese people live in Brazil than in any other part of the world, save Japan itself. I have never seen a Japanese working girl in Brazil. But then again, I have never looked for any either.
This article says 1.5 million. It's about 4 years old though, so 2 million isn't so much of an unreasonable stretch I don't think. Anyway, as the article says, more Japanese people live in Brazil than in any other part of the world, save Japan itself. I have never seen a Japanese working girl in Brazil. But then again, I have never looked for any either.Sorry, here's the article: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-42859249.
SamaRiding
11-15-21, 01:23
That leads me to Brazilian=Japanese escorts. You will see a few escorts with some Asian features advertising their Asian ethnicity. While many of them are attractive, most of them do not look 100% Asian. For the Asian connoisseur, the advantage of Brazil is you can find an escort with Asian looks and Brazilian curves.I agree with you. The Japanese Brazilian working girls who I have seen on twitter and in the clinicas are almost all mixed ethnicities, which can be nice. I also seen 1 or 2 full Japanese looking girls in Scandallo. I heard that the Japanese community in SP can be pretty closed knit and it is a highest economic class in SP. I heard the owner of Dcandallo is Japanese Brazilian. But sex is sold in every community. I bet is there are Japanese only clinicas or geisha clubs that are very premium (I. E. Expensive) and probably not even open to other Brazilians and not advertised. My guess is the only way to know where is a personal invitation by a local Japanese Brazilian regular. My Porto is too poor to ask. If anybody knows, DM me and I will paid you back in any Intel I have. Anyways, I go to SP for the whitest red heads, but I do have a second fetish for Japanese girls. Ok, maybe third place, after dark hair Romanian beauties. Hahaha.
I've literally been just going to Scandallo every day this week. I decided that I would take Sunday and Monday to rest a bit. My liver, sleep schedule, and wallet can only take so much. F1 week seems to have pushed Scandallo to the max. On Friday there was hardly any room to move, and the on-site rooms had a two-hour wait. I ended up just taking my girl back to my hotel that night. On Saturday there was about a 15 minute wait. I didn't go back on Sunday, even though the club was open for the actual F1 event. Regardless, I think a trip to Scandallo during F1 week is the mongering hajj, and I am planning on making the pilgrimage every year I can. You can't miss it.
There were a ton of girls but also a ton of guys. I think part of the fun of it is knowing that you could have any one of those girls, if you are in the right place at the right time. It's a real power trip, and in that sense just being in the club and watching all the women marching by is fun in and of itself. Obviously, not all the women are truly available all the time, as many of the most attractive ones will already be entertaining someone else. I've always showed up at around 10:30 PM, I want to experiment with coming in earlier and see if I can grab one of the mega-hotties before she's snapped up.
Regardless, I did end up going with the hot blonde on Wednesday, another MILFy tall blonde on Thursday, a spinner morena model on Friday (possibly the best experience at SP yet), and a tiny young half-Asian girl on Saturday. Every single one of them gave very good service. There are so many girls and such a wide variety that I've been playing a game. Within the first hour or so, I pick a theme for the night. Wed / Thurs it was tall blondes, Saturday it was young GND, and Friday was wildcard. Potential themes for next week include negra, redhead, and thicc girls only. Just to spice things up.
Just as a data point, a night at Scandallo with several drinks for myself, a few drinks for girls, and a one-hour on-site session typically runs me 300-400 USD. The delta there represents how much the girl charges. I've paid anywhere between 600 and 1000 BRL, averaging out to around 800 BRL. Maybe you can negotiate better than I did, but remember that every 100 BRL you negotiate down is just about 18 USD. You decide if that's worth it, especially if you are visiting from the US where you're not getting a 1 HR session with anyone halfway attractive for less than 400 USD an hour.
I have never seen a Japanese working girl in Brazil. But then again, I have never looked for any either.I had a non-memorable session with one on my first trip to SP last year. And plenty advertise on twitter and other forums.
I always feel like the clinicas don't get enough love here on ISG. I do want to preface with what I am about to say with this: if you are in the mindset of fucking nothing but model type girls in SP, then Scandallo is the route to go. Period. But if you have the time and patience and don't mind fucking GFE 7's then the clinicas are a great choice.
This kind of debate is as old as humanity and will never end, however meaningless it is. People will always vouch for their personal preferences as the 'superior' choice, just human nature.
I think finding your sweet spot and having fun is the best option, read the rest of the reports for entertainment value.
This article says 1.5 million. It's about 4 years old though, so 2 million isn't so much of an unreasonable stretch I don't think. Anyway, as the article says, more Japanese people live in Brazil than in any other part of the world, save Japan itself. I have never seen a Japanese working girl in Brazil. But then again, I have never looked for any either.I've done two in Rio, one of which is among my absolute all-time favorites. Neither was native Carioca -- one from Sao Paulo and the other from Southern Brasil. Ironically, in Sao Paulo, with its much larger Japanese population, I've never encountered one.
I'm much happier going to the nightclubs or using a reliable online source (there are a handful).Could you please provide a few of these reliable online sources. My success rate with outcalls in SP is dismal.
SamaRiding
11-15-21, 06:05
In response to the clinicas post. I lost the quote.
Exactly. I have mentioned in my previous posts that I like the clinicas. But it's also the Long game. Value can't be beat. If you only have a few days probably I would do known online Girls from the reliable Websites, clubmodel, Mclass, private55 and Cross reference the girls to the local forum, gp-Guia, for reviews. For clinicas, My MO is get a flat in Moema. There are 5 clinicas within a 10 minutes walk and another 10 clinicas within 15 minutes Uber ride. Minimum of 100 girls. It's correct that most don't interest me. Probably 5 To 8 girls out of the 100 in my range of 7.5 to 9. Can't fuck them all in one day. You don't have to visit all of them each day. I look at the daily WhatsApp status photos to find which ones to visit. Sometimes, but often not, I would book an appt with a girl Via WhatsApp if I Have seen the girl before or the photos are particular hot, which is a gamble but It's only USD $30 to 50. I also sometimes ask if a particular girl is available now and head over to see her physically. Even if you have booked a girl, get there early to see the presentation before and stay after the session to see the presentation again to see if there any new girls, so I can connect which girls to the WhatsApp status photos. I have done really well with this. And almost all clinicas girls give very good service.
Those clinicas you mentioned are really far away from the center of action, I wouldn't recommend them if guys are new to SP. If the clinicas have WhatsApp's, I may try to book a girl to test them out and see if the long ride is worth it.
SamaRiding
11-15-21, 06:20
Could you please provide a few of these reliable online sources. My success rate with outcalls in SP is dismal.Clubmodel, mclass, and private55 are reliable to the photos, which are more or less of the actual girl. Most of the photos are heavily photoshopped so also pay attention to the age, weight, dress size and Height listed. I like thin girls, so I don't go for girls who are close to 60 kg and above. This alone eliminates 60% of the girls for me. Good service is also not guaranteed. I mentioned this before, IMO in Brazil More money doesn't get you better chance of good service but does get you a larger pool of better looking girls.
Could you please provide a few of these reliable online sources. My success rate with outcalls in SP is dismal.Well, here are a handful that I like for both Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. I have used these and been quite satisfied overall:
https://www.private55.com/
https://clubmodel.com.br/
https://www.riosexsite.com/
https://www.rioencontro.com.br/
https://www.barravipsrio.com/
Just happened to see this one. Looks like she has some Asian in her. Even has some pics with what looks like a Japanese sword. She's pretty hot if you ask me. She's in Rio though:
https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-roberta-kin
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Why are wealthy Japanese guys willing to pay more for perceived exclusivity?Because money is the ultimate gatekeeper. County clubs have high initiation fees and annual dues to KEEP OUT those who can't afford those initiation fees or dues. After a certain point, you stop thinking about what you CAN afford (because it gets boring and repetitive) and start savoring the things that others cannot.
Mongerer88
11-15-21, 22:44
Because money is the ultimate gatekeeper. County clubs have high initiation fees and annual dues to KEEP OUT those who can't afford those initiation fees or dues. After a certain point, you stop thinking about what you CAN afford (because it gets boring and repetitive) and start savoring the things that others cannot.I have no objection to anyone paying a market price, even if that particular market price is above the price of another market, even a neighborhood away.
But many Japanese often seem to want to exclude others from participating in their particular market, with some ladies realizing this and creating a specific and unique identity just for Japanese customers.
The Tokyo forum has examples of brothels that are for Japanese men only. It is one of the few countries where that happens.
I have no objection to anyone paying a market price, even if that particular market price is above the price of another market, even a neighborhood away.
But many Japanese often seem to want to exclude others from participating in their particular market, with some ladies realizing this and creating a specific and unique identity just for Japanese customers.
The Tokyo forum has examples of brothels that are for Japanese men only. It is one of the few countries where that happens.Did you not understand my post? Of course they want to exclude others from the market. That's the POINT of exclusivity. Every market is not meant to be open to everyone.
I have no objection to anyone paying a market price, even if that particular market price is above the price of another market, even a neighborhood away.
But many Japanese often seem to want to exclude others from participating in their particular market, with some ladies realizing this and creating a specific and unique identity just for Japanese customers.
The Tokyo forum has examples of brothels that are for Japanese men only. It is one of the few countries where that happens.The same sort of thing has happened in the Philippines with some clubs only for Japanese or Koreans, or at least places that skew heavily toward catering to that clientele. Same for some clubs in Thailand.
Did you not understand my post? Of course they want to exclude others from the market. That's the POINT of exclusivity. Every market is not meant to be open to everyone.That night that I was competing with the Japanese at Scandallo for "Sarah"? I made sure I won.
Sarah(excerpted from a previous report).
I approached Sarah with a "Hi", and her eyes immediately lit up! She was like, "Oh, you speak English? So do I! That's great! Would you like to go sit and talk?" Hell yeah LOL! We moved to one of the side couches, and I offered to buy Sarah a drink, but she said she didn't consume alcohol. So we began to talk. About all sorts of things, and Sarah was proving to be a really cool person.
She told me some of the story of her life. About how her father was killed as a result of being part of a love triangle, and that she grew up poor living with her mom in Curitiba. She told me that she was of German stock, and that her grandmother had been from the old country. She said that she had hated her grandma because she was a racist, and that she had refused to go to her own grandma's funeral because of that. It was rather loud where we were sitting, so we moved to another part of the club with more quiet to continue our conversation. The tute I had seen at the Ibirapuera Shopping Center walked by, and I told Sarah the story. She thought it was funny and laughed! Despite her objective beauty, I discovered that Sarah was insecure about her looks. She told me that when she first started working at Scandallo, she found that she was constantly being turned down by all except the Japanese men. She said that many mongers just didn't find her exotic enough and preferred a "morena popozuda" or something like that over her LOL! In fact, she said that she herself found blonde and blue to be ugly, and that she wasn't attracted to guys who looked like her. She said she liked the Japanese guys because they liked her, and that they would pay the best money for her no questions asked. I asked Sarah if she thought she was ugly. She answered softly, "Not me. " But I could tell by her answer that she lacked confidence in herself.
I let her know that I liked her blonde hair and blue eyes and wanted to session with her. She started out by quoting me 800 reals for an hour! I told her that was very high, and she responded yeah she had to remember she wasn't dealing with a Japanese customer LOL! Sarah asked me what I wanted to pay, and I countered with 500. She shot back 600, and I jokingly countered again with 550. But I wasn't serious. For a girl of Sarah's caliber, 600 reals was fine (no anal and sorry no pics included), so off we went. On the way to the room Sarah asked, "Well what did the last girl you were with look like?" I asked her why in the world she was asking me something like that. She said, "Well, maybe I'm a little jealous." Well, the last one I had been with was Grazie, so I answered honestly, "She had blonde hair and blue eyes. Just like you." Sarah smiled and replied softly, "Good boy." We got to the room and I told Sarah that I liked her "vanilla milk shake" (butt) hehehe! She didn't quite understand. After showering we got on the bed and took care of business!
Oh what a sight to see such a beauty sucking away on my dong! I laid back while Sarah gave me a quality BBBJ, occasionally looking up at me with her beautiful blue eyes. When it was time to penetrate Sarah's body, I made sure to put one of my few remaining super thin Sagami condoms on my dick. I needed to feel all of that "precious gem". Sarah rode me reverse and standard cowgirl while I slapped her ass and groped her titties. I pounded hard and rough against her "vanilla shake" from the doggy position listening with pure joy at her cries of, "Oiee! Oiee! Oiee"!
Then onto her back for some mish. While on top of Sarah missionary style I whispered into her ear, "No way am I going to let the Japanese guys be the only ones to get some of this. I want some"! Sarah guffawed in laughter! Then I told her that I was going to tell all of the American guys what they were missing. Again more laughter. Then back to business! We started to fuck again, this time from the missionary position. Sarah raised and spread her knees wide so that I could get deep inside of her. With the Sagami on, it felt as if nothing was between us. Our pelvis' slammed together in a rhythmic whack, whack, whack! She closed her eyes and threw her head back as I groaned and spermed inside her precious buceta! And then a sweet and tender kiss on the lips between us. Nice! Very, very nice! And again worth every last real to me to be able to fuck such a gorgeous young branca!
I hung around for a good while more, admittedly feeling some jealousy over Sarah and wanting to see who, it anybody, might pick her next. I mean she made me think about being her sugar daddy LOL! I was there fairly late not too far from closing time, and nobody else did choose her, try as she might to present herself favorably for the taking. A really hot morena popozuda came after me, and I would have sessioned with her too if only my budget had allowed for it. But alas, it was my final night in Sampa, and my budget for tapping ass was spent! And I already had my super-hot morena in Annie the last time at Scandallo. So sorry Popo! Maybe next time! And God willing, there will be a next time! But for now, I have the pleasure of knowing that the last girl I fucked in Brazil was none other than a gorgeous young woman from Curitiba going by Sarah. Never going to forget her either! Never! In fact, on the way back to my hotel, I was deeply saddened by the knowledge that I will likely never see her again in my life.
The Cane.
Did you not understand my post? Of course they want to exclude others from the market. That's the POINT of exclusivity. Every market is not meant to be open to everyone.I think Mongerer88 is saying the exclusivity barrier should only be dollars not dollars and race.
Not too long ago USA Country clubs could set high financial barriers for exclusivity and tag on exclusions for Blacks and Jews. Most of these clubs have been forced to change their restrictions.
Perhaps, it's a North American way of viewing the modern world.
....and start savoring the things that others cannot.Folks who do that have some mental issues, and I feel sorry for them.
The same sort of thing has happened in the Philippines with some clubs only for Japanese or Koreans, or at least places that skew heavily toward catering to that clientele. Same for some clubs in Thailand.Its all because of the fear of the Caucasian dick size. The same thing happens in China. Once I had chosen a Chinese woman in Malioboro club in Jakarta, Indonesia and she said to be: "Be gentle, I have Chinese pussy. " LOL.
I won't return to Sao Paulo until 03 December, has anyone been to the re-opened / re-modeled Casarao? I'm asking for a friend!
I think Mongerer88 is saying the exclusivity barrier should only be dollars not dollars and race.
Not too long ago USA Country clubs could set high financial barriers for exclusivity and tag on exclusions for Blacks and Jews. Most of these clubs have been forced to change their restrictions.
Perhaps, it's a North American way of viewing the modern world.Since, we're talking about Japanese men, this way of viewing the world clearly extends outside of North American. BTW, many of those country clubs maintained some exclusions by putting in sponsorship requirements for membership ie. Several current members must vouch for you. Even in NYC there are certain buildings where celebrities (who obviously have the financial resources) have been turned away for not being a good "fit" for residency.
I read his first question as "WHY are the wealthy willing to pay more for perceived exclusivity", the answer to which I "thought" was obvious. Still, I attempted to provide some insight into mindset when one's options are numerous. Abundance can breed boredom, so you want something special / different / better than what's available to the masses. What you're referring to is a different question, that is "Why is race included as a factor, along with finances, in determining exclusivity". The simple answer is "because they can". Why do some women insist on dating men over 6 ft? Why do many men refuse to sleep with overweight women? Because we can. The reality is we are surrounded by "exclusivity" in some way, shape, or form all of the time. Exclusive night clubs and after-parties. Homes and cars that are out of reach for 99% of the population. Financial relationships that are by invitation-only (Amex Centurion). White-shoe firms that ONLY recruit from certain colleges and universities. Yet, most people only notice it when they attempt to open that locked door, ie when exclusivity works against them. Often, we're blind to the situations that work IN our favor.
Folks who do that have some mental issues, and I feel sorry for them.Perhaps your right. Among friends, I often lament being born in a time period when riding across the countryside on horseback, killing everything that moves, is generally frowned upon. So, I went to work on Wall Street instead. You make do with what you have.
Yet, most people only notice it when they attempt to open that locked door, ie when exclusivity works against them. Often, we're blind to the situations that work IN our favor.Not only are people often blind when it works in their favor, but they will actively try to explain, justify, and advocate for why exclusivity that works in their favor is appropriate and fair, or even a good thing. But then as you say, when exclusivity works against them, it's quite a different story!
In response to the clinicas post. I lost the quote.
Exactly. I have mentioned in my previous posts that I like the clinicas. But it's also the Long game. Value can't be beat. If you only have a few days probably I would do known online Girls from the reliable Websites, clubmodel, Mclass, private55 and Cross reference the girls to the local forum, gp-Guia, for reviews. For clinicas, My MO is get a flat in Moema. There are 5 clinicas within a 10 minutes walk and another 10 clinicas within 15 minutes Uber ride. Minimum of 100 girls. It's correct that most don't interest me. Probably 5 To 8 girls out of the 100 in my range of 7.5 to 9. Can't fuck them all in one day. You don't have to visit all of them each day. I look at the daily WhatsApp status photos to find which ones to visit. Sometimes, but often not, I would book an appt with a girl Via WhatsApp if I Have seen the girl before or the photos are particular hot, which is a gamble but It's only USD $30 to 50. I also sometimes ask if a particular girl is available now and head over to see her physically. Even if you have booked a girl, get there early to see the presentation before and stay after the session to see the presentation again to see if there any new girls, so I can connect which girls to the WhatsApp status photos. I have done really well with this. And almost all clinicas girls give very good service.
Those clinicas you mentioned are really far away from the center of action, I wouldn't recommend them if guys are new to SP. If the clinicas have WhatsApp's, I may try to book a girl to test them out and see if the long ride is worth it.5 clinicas? In Moema I only know of Redmassagem and Abbobora. I would really appreciate if you could point me to the others as well or the 10 other ones that are an uber ride away as I am planning on exactly what you suggested: Getting an apartment or hotel close or in Moema and mongering there for straightup a week or so.
I don't speak portuguese thought so I would appreciate additional info on those clinicas you mentioned.
SamaRiding
11-17-21, 00:54
5 clinicas? In Moema I only know of Redmassagem and Abbobora. I would really appreciate if you could point me to the others as well or the 10 other ones that are an uber ride away as I am planning on exactly what you suggested: Getting an apartment or hotel close or in Moema and mongering there for straightup a week or so.
I don't speak portuguese thought so I would appreciate additional info on those clinicas you mentioned.I didn't even count Red! Since I haven't visited.
In Moema, Prime, 57 House, Miruna, Abbobora, Enjoy (I count it since it's just across the big road). Those are my big 5. I also forgot Red, carinas, Lakshmi spa and Kamna in Moema which I don't go.
Within 15 minutes drive, cherry, Indy, Vani house, nova ceci, Chanel, Congonhas, tangara, route 55, Sharon massage, lotus lounge, kin, Lola spa, advance VIP, Assahi, Brooklin. I am sure I am missing a few.
Nebulousity
11-17-21, 01:01
5 clinicas? In Moema I only know of Redmassagem and Abbobora. I would really appreciate if you could point me to the others as well or the 10 other ones that are an uber ride away as I am planning on exactly what you suggested: Getting an apartment or hotel close or in Moema and mongering there for straightup a week or so.
I don't speak portuguese thought so I would appreciate additional info on those clinicas you mentioned.Clinicas in Moema within a few minute walk of each other include Prime, Carinas, Enjoy, Miruna, and Abbobora.
P.S. it's hard to resist the never ending Clinicas vs. Scandallo discussion. The restaurant analogy that's been used on these pages before is super helpful. Clinicas are the high quality lunch spots people frequent in Manhattan, when time is limited but quality is desired. Scandallo is the high end dinner restaurant, where the overall experience is as valuable as the food. It's a privilege to indulge in both. Sometimes I feel more sensitive to time (like the Manhattan office worker at lunchtime) so I appreciate that Clinicas work on a reliable schedule with a specific time box. But the experiences serve different purposes.
Jimmy Boy 99
11-17-21, 03:24
5 clinicas? In Moema I only know of Redmassagem and Abbobora. I would really appreciate if you could point me to the others as well or the 10 other ones that are an uber ride away as I am planning on exactly what you suggested: Getting an apartment or hotel close or in Moema and mongering there for straightup a week or so.
I don't speak portuguese thought so I would appreciate additional info on those clinicas you mentioned.
Clnica Indy Massagens. Av. Indianpolis, 2201 - Planalto Paulista.
Clinica Prime. Av. Irai, 511, Moema.
Clnica Kin Center. Tv. Libera Rivelino, 210, Brooklin Novo.
Clinica Brooklin. Av Professor Vicente Rao, 1656.
Clnica Enjoy Spa. Rua Condessa do Pinhal, 279, Campo Belo.
Clnica Nova Ceci. Av. Ceci, 2189, Planalto Paulista.
Clnica Chanel. A. Ceci, 2228 - Planalto Paulista.
57 House Friend's Club-Alameda dos Aicas 1. 293 Moema.
Clnica Kahunas. Rua Bartolomeu de Gusmo, 147, Vila Mariana.
Clinica Tangara - Rua Tangara 200, Vila Mariana.
Clnica Route 55 - Praca Dr. Carvalho Franco, 55 - Vila Mariana.
Advance Vip. Rua Professor Santiago Dantas, 62 - Morumbi.
Clnica Miruna's. Avenida Miruna, 644 - Moema.
Clinica Yankin. Rua Dr. Jos de Queirz Aranha, 148 - Ana Rosa.
Clnica L. Gois. Rua Lus Gois, 820 - Vila Mariana.
Lola Massagens. Rua Prof. Santiago Dantas, 83, Morumbi.
Tokio Spa. Rua Indiana, 1350 - Brooklin.
Clinica Cancioneiro. Rua. Novo Cancioneiro, 88 - Brooklin.
Clnica Carinas. Av. Dos Carinas, 439 - Indianpolis.
Clnica Nova Antares. Av Bosque the Sade, 268 - Praca the Arvore.
Prive Vani's Way. Rua Dom Antonio Galvo, 266.
https://www.gp-guia.net is your friend. Use google translate to read it.
SamaRiding
11-17-21, 04:57
In Moema.
Also Bahamas hotel club which is an other boate and Zeus strip club where you can take girls out to a room.
And hot bar and inner club which are swinger clubs. I made the mistake of taking a very hot GP to hot bar where every other guy wanted to swap their ugly girlfriend with me. I went on a sat night and it was packed with hot looking girls but most were there just to party and dance and they didn't go into the sex rooms. It seems going to party in swing club is the thing to do for young rich kids in SP.
Surprisingly moema is a nice area and great restaurants and bars. But there is literally a working girl house on each block.
Jimmy Boy 99
11-17-21, 06:07
https://www.gp-guia.net is your friend. Use google translate to read it.I forgot to mention that the prices shown on gp-guia.net are what members who post pay, which at many clinicas is generally the 30 minute rate for an hour program, so you will be paying some 60 to 80 real more than the gp-guia.net prices at those clinicas.
Exec Talent
11-17-21, 09:19
Its all because of the fear of the Caucasian dick size. The same thing happens in China. Once I had chosen a Chinese woman in Malioboro club in Jakarta, Indonesia and she said to be: "Be gentle, I have Chinese pussy. " LOL.The girls in certain countries called me Superman because I lasted longer than 5 minutes. So, not only are their condoms absurdly too small, their skills in the bedroom are severely lacking.
Eszpresszo
11-17-21, 15:27
I won't return to Sao Paulo until 03 December, has anyone been to the re-opened / re-modeled Casarao? I'm asking for a friend!There is no reopened / remodeled Casarao. The place was place shut down during the pandemic and there are two different clubs in its place that have been there as least since this past May. I am attaching two photos of them that I took last month. At night they both have hawkers by their doors trying to get you to come inside, which means you shouldn't go in (so I didn't). So, let's not have any fictitious TRs about going to Casaraos and not seeing anything in there.
SamaRiding
11-17-21, 19:26
I forgot to mention that the prices shown on gp-guia.net are what members who post pay, which at many clinicas is generally the 30 minute rate for an hour program, so you will be paying some 60 to 80 real more than the gp-guia.net prices at those clinicas.Have anyone try to get the Florista discount in GP-guia? I think you have to write a girl review within 30 minutes of the session on the website. The website has lots of rules and probably need to written in Portuguese. The one hour discount is between 50-60 real which is USD $10 but can add up.
There is no reopened / remodeled Casarao. The place was place shut down during the pandemic and there are two different clubs in its place that have been there as least since this past May. I am attaching two photos of them that I took last month. At night they both have hawkers by their doors trying to get you to come inside, which means you shouldn't go in (so I didn't). So, let's not have any fictitious TRs about going to Casaraos and not seeing anything in there.You don't even have the right spot LOL! Those places don't sit where you say Casarao "used" to be! Looking at your photos, Casarao would be to the right of Balneairo American Bar, which does not stand in place of Casarao. I know it, because I have been to both. Here is the report I did on Balneairo way back when:
Balneairo American Bar
This joint is a little shit hole right next to Casarao. I never would have gone to it except for the fact that I arrived at Casarao before it had opened, so I decided to take a peek next door just to cool my heels and have a drink before going to Casarao when it opened. What transpired was my best anal session of the entire trip! Upon entry into the club, I was approached in short order by a cute, 25 year-old morena from Belem going by Camila. She was joined by her very aggressive friend who I was not attracted to. I made it clear that Camila was the one I liked, and the friend eventually left and latched onto another target (who she fucked). Turning my attention to Camila, I decided to session when she agreed to an hour long session with anal for only 200 reals! I was concerned over what the room would look like, but hey you only live once! This girl is cute, and she's going to let me fuck her in the butt for 200 reals! So we get down there and sure enough it's a really shitty room with a tiny, unkempt shower and a mat on a kind of raised bed (attached to wall) for doing the deed.
Well I decided not to give a damn! I was going to take that girl's dirty little butt hole in that dirty little room for cheap! Yes sir! The session started out great with a BBBJ, then 69, then more BBBJ followed by reverse cowgirl and standard cowgirl. We went into some doggy until Camila asked me sweetly if I was ready to enter her "culito" (asshole). You're damn straight I'm ready! I gently entered Camila's anus orifice before starting to give her a good hard butt fucking. She was on all fours, but I was ramming it into her ass so hard that she went face down and booty up! With that, I got up on my feet and squatted over Camila's upturned fanny and began to pound the daylights out of her ass whack, whack, whack, whack, whack against her butt cheeks! Now Camila began to cry out as I smashed her asshole in! I continued to ass pound until she went flat down onto her belly, still crying out. I kept going like a crazed butt fucker until finally I creamed Camila's cornhole and collapsed onto her back! The two of us got showered up, and then left the club together to go eat at a Japanese restaurant down the street. We exchanged e-mail addy's and phone numbers and agreed to meet again. Total damage was 200 reals plus a 10 reals entrada fee (good for 1 beer) and dinner for two at a modest restaurant (also paid her like 10 reals for a taxi back to the club). Was totally worth it to me, especially since I expected nothing from what was a little shit hole of a place!
I did get together with Camila one more time, the second time being at my hotel. I actually had gone back to Balneario with the plan to get "take-out". It didn't seem so dirty the second time around LOL! But still, it couldn't compare to my hotel. The management agreed to allow Camila to leave for some time at my hotel, and if I recall correctly, I paid a 150 reals take-out fee. Camila's charge for her time was 500 reals plus taxi. Back at my hotel, I concluded that she was decidedly less attractive in the full light of my room hahaha! But she still looked good enough for fucking, which we did 3 times, including using one of my super thin Sagami condoms from Japan. We both moaned and gasped at how good it felt and marveled at what was a bareback-like sexual feeling! We took some time for sleeping and eating too. That is, in between Camila going reverse cowgirl and licking and sucking on my nuts! Again, I regret not the cost and believe the time spent was worth every real. When you find a good one at a good price a monger has to go for it! Balneiro American Bar is a dirty little hole LOL!
Jimmy Boy 99
11-17-21, 20:30
Have anyone try to get the Florista discount in GP-guia? I think you have to write a girl review within 30 minutes of the session on the website. The website has lots of rules and probably need to written in Portuguese. The one hour discount is between 50-60 real which is USD $10 but can add up.I get it all the time because I have lots of reviews. I use Google translate to write my reviews in Portuguese. You don't have to write it immediately but they may check to see if you wrote one if you go back and ask for the forista price. Also, you're not going to get the forista price if you don't have any reviews.
There is no reopened / remodeled Casarao. The place was place shut down during the pandemic and there are two different clubs in its place that have been there as least since this past May. I am attaching two photos of them that I took last month. At night they both have hawkers by their doors trying to get you to come inside, which means you shouldn't go in (so I didn't). So, let's not have any fictitious TRs about going to Casaraos and not seeing anything in there.That club, Balnearios has been there for years.
Next to Casarao.
Been there many times.
I posted pics earlier of the renovations going on inside Casarao.
Just because it wasn't open last month when you walked by, doesn't mean it won't open up again.
SamaRiding
11-17-21, 22:21
That club, Balnearios has been there for years.
Next to Casarao.
Been there many times.
I posted pics earlier of the renovations going on inside Casarao.
Just because it wasn't open last month when you walked by, doesn't mean it won't open up again.I have no first person knowledge. So don't blame me if it's wrong. But on gp-guia there are a few reports that this boate has reopened last week after the weak renovation.
.. You don't have to write it immediately but they may check to see if you wrote one if you go back and ask for the forista price. Also, you're not going to get the forista price if you don't have any reviews.To SamaRiding, some may require the review of one hour session for discount.
I won't return to Sao Paulo until 03 December, has anyone been to the re-opened / re-modeled Casarao? I'm asking for a friend!Went there last week. Looks like a balada now. There were maybe 50 guys and 10 girls.
I agree with you. The Japanese Brazilian working girls who I have seen on twitter and in the clinicas are almost all mixed ethnicities, which can be nice. I also seen 1 or 2 full Japanese looking girls in Scandallo. I heard that the Japanese community in SP can be pretty closed knit and it is a highest economic class in SP. I heard the owner of Dcandallo is Japanese Brazilian. But sex is sold in every community. I bet is there are Japanese only clinicas or geisha clubs that are very premium (I. E. Expensive) and probably not even open to other Brazilians and not advertised. My guess is the only way to know where is a personal invitation by a local Japanese Brazilian regular. My Porto is too poor to ask. If anybody knows, DM me and I will paid you back in any Intel I have. Anyways, I go to SP for the whitest red heads, but I do have a second fetish for Japanese girls. Ok, maybe third place, after dark hair Romanian beauties. Hahaha.Scandallo owner is not japa, but at Bomboa is.
Yes there are private sex parties to Brazilians no condom orgies and are with their sugardaddys.
I went to Brasil for the first time for F1 over 10 years ago and love it probably because one of the most beautiful girl I've every been with till this day did bbbfs without me asking.
After a few years of not being to go during F1 week I returned last week and the same shit happened again. It's like dejavu all over again, Met a girl that looks exactly like the porn star Amy Reid and did everything also bbbfs, anal, swallow. You can't bargain for this level of services. It only comes with chemistry by being able to speak the lingo.
Girls come out of the woodworks for F1 week especially since it was canceled for the last 2 years. Saw girls from 4 years ago still just as hot. Brazilian girls age pretty good or could be just all the plastic surgery.
I agree with you. The Japanese Brazilian working girls who I have seen on twitter and in the clinicas are almost all mixed ethnicities, which can be nice. I also seen 1 or 2 full Japanese looking girls in Scandallo. I heard that the Japanese community in SP can be pretty closed knit and it is a highest economic class in SP. I heard the owner of Dcandallo is Japanese Brazilian. But sex is sold in every community. I bet is there are Japanese only clinicas or geisha clubs that are very premium (I. E. Expensive) and probably not even open to other Brazilians and not advertised. My guess is the only way to know where is a personal invitation by a local Japanese Brazilian regular. My Porto is too poor to ask. If anybody knows, DM me and I will paid you back in any Intel I have. Anyways, I go to SP for the whitest red heads, but I do have a second fetish for Japanese girls. Ok, maybe third place, after dark hair Romanian beauties. Hahaha.One time I went to Kilt in Sao Paulo. I did not like that club, and one reason why not is that the girls mostly catered to Japanese guys only! Here is what I wrote about Kilt:
Kilt
Kilt is another one of the few places where I chose not to session. For one thing, I found most of the girls to be unattractive. Second, the place really caters to Japanese clients. Even the food menu had only sushi on it. I like sushi, but I wanted something different on that night. With the focus being on Japanese men, it was hard to get any attention from any of the girls, even for a traditional-looking Brazilian man (I pass for Brazilian). I would see guys come in and be totally ignored in favor of Japanese clients! I didn't like that. I didn't like it at all! About three or so girls did approach me, but I wasn't too interested in them. I did strike up a conversation with one of them just to get some more info about the club. I already knew that the entrada was 60 reals to sit at the bar or 80 reals to get a table. It was 400 reals to session with a tute. My understanding was that there were rooms on premises, but I don't recall the cost. I had a few drinks and decided to leave. Felt like the place was owned by the Japanese yakuza (mob) LOL!
Eszpresszo
11-19-21, 01:47
That club, Balnearios has been there for years.
Next to Casarao.
Been there many times.
I posted pics earlier of the renovations going on inside Casarao.
Just because it wasn't open last month when you walked by, doesn't mean it won't open up again.Good story, bro. Rsrs.
The Critic
11-19-21, 09:40
I won't return to Sao Paulo until 03 December, has anyone been to the re-opened / re-modeled Casarao? I'm asking for a friend!According to thier web page thier open and social media accounts thier open. Contact them using contact link to be sure.
https://casaraoaugusta.com.br/
Vagabundo1
11-19-21, 10:43
That's a good find.
Keep us updated.
Casarao is a key spot.
I took a prive girl there to check out the market, and it was fun.
According to thier web page thier open and social media accounts thier open. Contact them using contact link to be sure.
https://casaraoaugusta.com.br/
Axel Heyst
11-19-21, 18:34
On my recent October trip I briefly checked out Lotus Club, Av. Juscelino Kubitschek, 373 on a Friday night at around 10:30. It was obvious that some real money had been invested into the remodel and the place looked great. The staff were very friendly too. An attractive receptionist told me I could look around before paying for admission, but I chose to pay assuming I would find what I was looking for. She escorted me up to the 2nd floor where the main bar and entertainment area is located. She said there would be more girls and live music later in the night.
But at the moment, unfortunately, the place was nearly empty with only 4 customers and 5 girls and the 5 girls were not quite up to my Boate standards. I hung around for 30 minutes or so hoping more girls would show up. When none did I took my leave, but before I left, the attractive receptionist (I would have done her without hesitation) introduced me to the manager who said that if I came back anytime during in the next week, my admission would be comped which was a nice touch and I really hope the place succeeds, but to succeed a Boate needs girls, lots of attractive girls.
So I went around the corner to Bomboa, a Boate I really like. The place was jumping, and I found what I was looking for. 555.
According to their web page their open and social media accounts their open. Contact them using contact link to be sure.
https://casaraoaugusta.com.br/Somebody in SP should go to Casarao, take a look around and report back.
EverythingBlue
11-19-21, 22:08
On my recent October trip I briefly checked out Lotus Club, Av. Juscelino Kubitschek, 373 on a Friday night at around 10:30. It was obvious that some real money had been invested into the remodel and the place looked great. The staff were very friendly too. An attractive receptionist told me I could look around before paying for admission, but I chose to pay assuming I would find what I was looking for. She escorted me up to the 2nd floor where the main bar and entertainment area is located. She said there would be more girls and live music later in the night.
But at the moment, unfortunately, the place was nearly empty with only 4 customers and 5 girls and the 5 girls were not quite up to my Boate standards. I hung around for 30 minutes or so hoping more girls would show up. When none did I took my leave, but before I left, the attractive receptionist (I would have done her without hesitation) introduced me to the manager who said that if I came back anytime during in the next week, my admission would be comped which was a nice touch and I really hope the place succeeds, but to succeed a Boate needs girls, lots of attractive girls..I will give it a shot next week when I'm in Town. If any other fellow monger is willing to try it, please PM or reply here so we can meet. I'm planning on visiting Bomboa and of course, the all known Scandallo haha.
Good story, bro. Rsrs.Another moron on the ignore list, bro. Rsrs.
Clnica Indy Massagens. Av. Indianpolis, 2201 - Planalto Paulista.
Clinica Prime. Av. Irai, 511, Moema.
Clnica Kin Center. Tv. Libera Rivelino, 210, Brooklin Novo.
Clinica Brooklin. Av Professor Vicente Rao, 1656.
....You are a saint my friend. Really appreciate all of these addresses. It will be my 2nd time in Sao Paulo. The first time I had booked a hotel in Jardins. Is there an airbnb or hotel you could recommend that is close to Moema? I feel like Brazilian hotels in the medium budget category have really shitty rooms or maybe my expectations are too high but even places that had 8+ scores on booking.com felt super underwhelming.
For anyone wondering about Casarao. I was there 2 years ago on my first trip. Just took an uber from my place to Casarao. My uber driver warned me to keep an eye on the drinks in case anyone might want to drug me. Great guy: the.
Place was packed. Easily 30 girls inside. I took a Japanese brazilian that performed alright and paid 300 + room (upstairs) for 1 hour if I remember correctly.
One time I went to Kilt in Sao Paulo. I did not like that club, and one reason why not is that the girls mostly catered to Japanese guys only!...This habit of catering to Japanese mongers only is fairly common in Asia. I experienced it in Thailand.
I have a strong yellow fever. Hence, when I last visited São Paulo, I wanted to have a session with a Brazilian / Japanese girl so bad, but I was not successful.
In past years, I used to go to Hong Kong. Japanese WGs were advertised there, but there were many fake ones, Chinese WGs passing for Japanese. Unfortunately, I could only tell after a session, not before.
I finally decided to go to the source, in Tokyo. There, I had plenty of Japanese WGs but they were very expensive. Practically emptied my wallet and went back home.
Jimmy Boy 99
11-20-21, 06:46
You are a saint my friend. Really appreciate all of these addresses. It will be my 2nd time in Sao Paulo. The first time I had booked a hotel in Jardins. Is there an airbnb or hotel you could recommend that is close to Moema? I feel like Brazilian hotels in the medium budget category have really shitty rooms or maybe my expectations are too high but even places that had 8+ scores on booking.com felt super underwhelming.
I don't know if any of these hotels meet your standard but I stay at Mercure hotels in Moema. There are 3 of them, about $40-$50 a night, with pool, gym, and dry sauna. If you book on https://all.accor.com and become a member, you get 10% off, plus points which are worth about 8 cents per dollar spent towards future reservations, and if you book for 10 days or more, you get an even bigger discount and breakfast is included. My costs there varied from $25 a night to $40 a night when I stayed there September and October 2021.
Mercure Sao Paulo Moema.
Av. Lavandisca, 365 - Moema.
Mercure So Paulo Ibirapuera Privilege Hotel.
Av. Macuco, 579 - Moema.
Mercure Sao Paulo Moema Times Square Hotel.
Av. Jamaris, 100 - Torre 1 - Moema.
The first two have dry saunas that are open to guests (although only one or two guests at a time because of Covid restrictions), which is why I stayed at those two on my last trip. The last two also have airbnbs in them which may be a little cheaper than the hotel rates. Check on airbnb.com for these as as well as other ones in the other hotels below and in the Moema area.
There are some other hotels near these that other people have stayed at and liked like the Comfort Hotel Ibirapuera, Bourbon Sao Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Hotel, and Meli Ibirapuera at about the same price.
There is also Tsue The Palace Flat (half a block from 57 Friends House), which is a condo that has units for rent at maybe a little cheaper price than the hotels. You may get a better deal than on hotel websites like hotels.com or booking.com if you contact them directly.
I don't know if any of these hotels meet your standard but I stay at Mercure hotels in Moema.
Mercure Sao Paulo Moema.
Av. Lavandisca, 365 - Moema.
Mercure So Paulo Ibirapuera Privilege Hotel.
Av. Macuco, 579 - Moema.
Mercure Sao Paulo Moema Times Square Hotel.
Av. Jamaris, 100 - Torre 1 - Moema.I also stayed in Ibirapuera Privilege and Times Square in October. I reported here about the noise in Times Square, but it stopped and the rest of my stay was fine.
These hotels are not Renaissance, but they are very good for the price you pay. Due to pandemic the cleaning is very thorough and I didn't find a spot of dirt in my room. I recommend if you are a 4-star guy, like me.
I did a tour of the boates to see how many and the quality girls there were on a Friday night since most girls comes out of the wood works to work during F1, many freelancers, many first timers.
Scandallo 500 girls ranging from 5-10, the girl I saw was her first night there I was not interested in anyone else after I met her LOL.
Bomboa 60 girls, ranging from 5-9, definitely less bolt ONS if one prefer more natural look.
Cafe Photo 80 girls, ranging from 5-8. My buddy told me the girls are Scandallo rejects since the girls can just freelance at Photo.
All Places were super packed but non F1 week I would expect about half. Expect higher prices during F1 and next year when they have auto convention the week prior.
There were many tickets left still available for F1, next year will be even more packed.
I just finished my two-week long bender in SP. I'll just add a few points / random thoughts:
Bomboa.
This past Monday was a holiday, I wasn't expecting any action that day. I decided to head over to Bomboa due to their low entry fee (250 BRL all consumable). The place is small / cozy. I wasn't a huge fan, but at that price point I'll come by again, if only to grab dinner and a drink before going to Scandallo LOL.
Cafe Photo.
Tuesday I went to Cafe Photo and I was very pleasantly surprised. It's a nice setting, basically just a big restaurant / bar spread across two floors with a live band downstairs. They've actually got a pretty cool animation showing the location on their Twitter. Entry was 350 BRL, 200 or 150 consumable I think.
A big plus here is that the music (at least the day I was there) was much better than Scandallo. Scandallo music gets repetitive, and they mostly play sertenejo, which is like a mix of rock and Brazilian country music. I assume it caters to the older rich Brazilians there which is why it's so awful haha. But Cafe Photo just had regular music, pop, electronic, etc. They had a live band doing covers of popular music. Much more jammable, although Cafe Photo doesn't have a dedicated dancing area.
Generally speaking, I'd say the girls at Cafe Photo are pretty much the same as Scandallo, the only difference is the setting. Café Photo is smaller and much chiller, relaxed. Not as noisy and crazy as Scandallo. I hear that Cafe Photo girls are not allowed to approach men themselves. You can decide which venue you're in the mood for on any particular night.
On a Tuesday there were not many men but about 40 women. After eating some dinner and ogling the talent I made some moves. I talked to several women, including a branca that wanted 1500 BRL. I laughed and quickly moved on, especially since she said she wasn't vaccinated and she was a fan of Bolsonaro haha. I ended up choosing a fiesty classic Latina. Cafe Photo doesn't have hotels on premises yet (they're under construction), but they allow you to take the girl out for free. This will be a big plus for some I'm sure, as you'd be able to negotiate a more unrushed service. Unfortunately my girl was quite business minded, and she even attempted to ask me for 300 more afterwards. I just offered to call her an Uber.
But damn, even a girl that business minded gave the most PSE of my life. Making out, 69 ing, and even her rimming me without asking. Is this part of the regular menu for many girls and I just never knew? I'm not much interested in playing with their asses, but vice versa, most def.
Anyways, it's just another data point that helps me crown SP and Brazil in general as the top spot for mongering in the world. If a girl was angling for more cash / willing to pull some BS in a place like Thailand, she would've just ripped me off. But the attitude just seems to be different in Brazil. Even when girls try the upselling and games, it's still awesome.
Scandallo.
As good as Cafe Photo was of course I had end my trip at Scandallo. I went there Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday afternoon, and Friday night.
Even outside of F1 week Scandallo still is hopping, but it's not always fantastic. I'd say take those days in stride, come into it with low expectations and you'll never be disappointed.
Wednesday was one of those nights. I had drank quite a bit at Cafe Photo the night before and didn't get great sleep. I was struggling, and I wasn't finding anyone that blew me away, except for one. She was an absolute GND type, small petite smart and totally my type. But she wasn't giving super GFE vibes and as I said before, I was exhausted so I just grabbed her WA and headed back ti the hotel.
Thursday was great, busy as usual. I found a stunning blonde with great body. Very passionate, great chemistry. Night to remeber. 1000 BRL.
Friday I had the day off, so I decided to lunch at Scandallo. I've never ordered food there so I wanted to check it out. It's ok but expensive. There were about 30 girls at 3 pm. Talent wasn't great but I kinda forced myself to take a Middle Eastern looking girl, 700 BRL. Best part is that you don't have to pay entry fee / consumption at all if you re-enter the club later at night.
Friday evening was honestly kind of a dud but also fun in its own way. I ended up just talking to an Argentinian chick for a bit more than an hour about life, relationships, etc. I've heard not great things about Argentinian girls in comparison to Brazilians, and it was proven true. Though she was very friendly she wasn't very. Warm. She didn't curl up to me or get physically close, even though we'd been chatting in Spanish for more than an hour. She wanted 1000 BRL but said she didn't do BBBJ or kiss, which was a deal-breaker. I informed her that every other Scandallo girl did do it, for a lower price generally. She seemed content to go home empty-handed. And at that point I was too. It was pushing 3 am and Friday nights at Scandallo aren't as popping as weekdays. I called it a night, and thus ended my trip.
I've already booked my hotels for next year during F1 week, and will book flights too. As I said, F1 week is not to be missed even though it gets packed. I'll probably be back at some point earlier next year as well, although not sure when. Flying overseas to monger is addictive and fun, but not really conducive to living a balanced sustainable healthy life, IMO. Time to get back to the "real-world".
...... the most PSE of my life. Making out, 69 ing, and even her rimming me without asking. Is this part of the regular menu for many girls and I just never knew? ......From my experience rimming is generally not on the menu in Brazil, unlike some Asian countries. My suspicion is that she was so much into the session that she lost control. What you got was not PSE but an aroused Brazilian woman.
Vagabundo1
11-22-21, 15:09
The best Rio girls will definitely rim ('beijos greigos' is how to ask for it).
Nothing like the prettiest Rio girl with the hottest ass (she is willing to give up, including double penetration with a dildo) with her pretty lips on your asshole, and her tongue up your ass for a little break between marathon fucking.
Never. Never. Never would a rich world chick put in that kind of romantic effort.
From my experience rimming is generally not on the menu in Brazil, unlike some Asian countries. My suspicion is that she was so much into the session that she lost control. What you got was not PSE but an aroused Brazilian woman.
From my experience rimming is generally not on the menu in Brazil, unlike some Asian countries. My suspicion is that she was so much into the session that she lost control. What you got was not PSE but an aroused Brazilian woman.This young lady https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/abc-paulista/sao-bernardo-do-campo/escort-de-alto-nivel-estilo-namoradinha-id-dfs22 did it to me, two weeks ago, without asking and another lady in RJ.
The best Rio girls will definitely rim ('beijos greigos' is how to ask for it).
Nothing like the prettiest Rio girl with the hottest ass (she is willing to give up, including double penetration with a dildo) with her pretty lips on your asshole, and her tongue up your ass for a little break between marathon fucking.
Never. Never. Never would a rich world chick put in that kind of romantic effort.That matches my experience. I don't actively look for it, but I've received way more rimming in Brasil than anyone else.
SamaRiding
11-23-21, 06:08
That matches my experience. I don't actively look for it, but I've received way more rimming in Brasil than anyone else.Yup. I also had a couple of girls rim me without asking. My first day in SP in Abbobora, the girl was giving me a long BBBJ and then motioned her index finger and asked me if I like it. I have never had a girl give me a prostate massage before so I said a weak ok. She then took a condom and place it over her fingers and then took my butt virginity. Hahahaha. I now know that is not my thing.
Axel Heyst
11-23-21, 14:33
That matches my experience. I don't actively look for it, but I've received way more rimming in Brasil than anyone else.Combo, check out Macau after it reopens. In the better Macau Saunas rimming is included in the complete cat licking part of the session followed up with fire & ice BJ's before vaginal sex. The girls will usually insert a small piece of shaved ice into the client's asshole as far as it will go with their tongues and keep it there as the water melts down their tongue and chin. It is not my favorite part of the sessions, but the act is unique to Macau Saunas and it feels pretty good. I miss those Korean and mainland Chinese super models even though the price of a session with one of those girls was becoming astronomical before the pandemic hit.
Northern Dancer
11-23-21, 16:11
The best Rio girls will definitely rim ('beijos greigos' is how to ask for it).
Nothing like the prettiest Rio girl with the hottest ass (she is willing to give up, including double penetration with a dildo) with her pretty lips on your asshole, and her tongue up your ass for a little break between marathon fucking.
Never. Never. Never would a rich world chick put in that kind of romantic effort.Well, I grew up in a rich country (Canada) and had girls tossing my salad without asking beginning in my early twenties. Maybe I'm just the kind of guy that attracts that kind of girl. And not skanks either. A lawyer, an architect, a doctor. All beautiful.
Exec Talent
11-23-21, 19:45
Well, I grew up in a rich country (Canada) and had girls tossing my salad without asking beginning in my early twenties. Maybe I'm just the kind of guy that attracts that kind of girl. And not skanks either. A lawyer, an architect, a doctor. All beautiful.Maybe it has something to do with personal hygiene?
Combo, check out Macau after it reopens. In the better Macau Saunas rimming is included in the complete cat licking part of the session followed up with fire & ice BJ's before vaginal sex. The girls will usually insert a small piece of shaved ice into the client's asshole as far as it will go with their tongues and keep it there as the water melts down their tongue and chin. It is not my favorite part of the sessions, but the act is unique to Macau Saunas and it feels pretty good. I miss those Korean and mainland Chinese super models even though the price of a session with one of those girls was becoming astronomical before the pandemic hit.Thanks but like I said, not something I really look for. And I doubt I'll be returning to Asia any time soon. Just too long of a trip from the USA.
Vagabundo1
11-24-21, 03:16
That goes on the bucket list. Bucket of ice, haha.
Combo, check out Macau after it reopens. In the better Macau Saunas rimming is included in the complete cat licking part of the session followed up with fire & ice BJ's before vaginal sex. The girls will usually insert a small piece of shaved ice into the client's asshole as far as it will go with their tongues and keep it there as the water melts down their tongue and chin. It is not my favorite part of the sessions, but the act is unique to Macau Saunas and it feels pretty good. I miss those Korean and mainland Chinese super models even though the price of a session with one of those girls was becoming astronomical before the pandemic hit.
Combo, check out Macau after it reopens. In the better Macau Saunas rimming is included in the complete cat licking part of the session...I don't believe every sauna would offer that kind of service. I have visited Macau several times over the last decade, and I have not witnessed much rimming. However, I enjoyed thigh massages quite often and I thoroughly enjoyed them.
Maybe you can list those saunas that offer such a sevice.
Vagabundo1
11-24-21, 08:33
Post Covid Macau will not be open to anti Chinese persons as much as it was. Just see what has happened in Hong Kong.
I don't believe every sauna would offer that kind of service. I have visited Macau several times over the last decade, and I have not witnessed much rimming. However, I enjoyed thigh massages quite often and I thoroughly enjoyed them.
Maybe you can list those saunas that offer such a sevice.
Axel Heyst
11-24-21, 13:33
I don't believe every sauna would offer that kind of service. I have visited Macau several times over the last decade, and I have not witnessed much rimming. However, I enjoyed thigh massages quite often and I thoroughly enjoyed them.
Maybe you can list those saunas that offer such a sevice.Sure thing, Lefeu. As I wrote, not all saunas have rimming on their menus, but it is part of the program at Rio Sauna and Familia Nobre which IMHO are the 2 best Saunas in Macau, but my favorable opinion is not based their rimming services, but is due to the very high quality of their girls.
I am a big fan of thigh massages too. They are a great way to begin the night. It just goes to show you what proper training can deliver IE the art of elevating a simple hand job into something really pleasurable.
I miss Macau, Jakarta, and of most of all LOS, but fuck it, I just booked my 3rd trip in a row to Brazil. I love Brazilian girls and I am not going to wait around holding my dick in my hand until Asia gets its act together. Brazil is now!
I don't believe every sauna would offer that kind of service. I have visited Macau several times over the last decade, and I have not witnessed much rimming. However, I enjoyed thigh massages quite often and I thoroughly enjoyed them.
Maybe you can list those saunas that offer such a sevice.Rimming was part of the menu in saunas in Chang Ping, China when it was rocking plus other kinky stuff as well.
Lucky Nuts
11-24-21, 16:40
Next week I'll be making my first ever visit to SP. Admittedly I've haven't even been reading the forum here lately as I just left Medellin yesterday and been too busy with the chicas there. Back in the USA now for a few days and need to know entry requirements for my trip to Brazil. Do I need either an antigen or PCR negative test result to enter? Is there a CheckMig type app (Colombia requirement) I need to complete for entry?
I've read enough here over the last year to know the scene from afar. I have a list of clinicas to visit with some recommendations from guys I met in Medellin. And I'll probably be a regular evening visitor to Scandellos as my trip is only ten nights before returning to Medellin. I have no Portu speaking ability but my Spanish is good enough I rarely need to used translate except for a word here and there. So hope they are kind to me LOL.
Over the next couple days I'll read the last 25 or 30 pages of posts on this forum to catch up on the latest news and happenings.
Anybody in town and willing to help me learn the day scene and / or hitting Scandellos together please PM me. This is an expoloratory trip for me to see if I want to spend more time in Brazil this winter or just stay in Medellin again. Thanks!
Over the next couple days I'll read the last 25 or 30 pages of posts on this forum to catch up on the latest news and happenings.That's not a bad idea, but I always recommend that guys spend more time on the Reports of Distinction. They're in there for a reason, including providing some of the best information and tips. It's just a more efficient way to spend your time as the main threads often include a lot of chitter chatter that you have to wade through in order to extract the best info. The RODs are the light and the way!
Axel Heyst
11-24-21, 17:56
Post Covid Macau will not be open to anti Chinese persons as much as it was. Just see what has happened in Hong Kong.Yeah, the signs are ominous: ChangPing & HKG both met their fate. I have my fingers crossed on Macau, but I am not overly optimistic about the future there. I even have doubts about Thailand. But we shall see.
Meanwhile thank Buddha for Brazil. Maybe we shouldn't talk about it so much and try to keep it our little secret. Ha Ha, just joking. If it was not for the ISG and contributors like yourself and many others, too many to mention in this post, I would not have gone to Brazil and checked it out for myself back in April 2021. I am sure glad I did.
Vagabundo1
11-24-21, 19:22
https://youtu.be/HYDbThcr2z4
Then, Skyfall.
Bond: "Macau sex trade."
Severine: I want to suck your dick.
Now:
Bond, a white Brit, never gets into Macau.
File this under the literature of prostitution.
Yeah, the signs are ominous: ChangPing & HKG both met their fate. I have my fingers crossed on Macau, but I am not overly optimistic about the future there. I even have doubts about Thailand. But we shall see.
Meanwhile thank Buddha for Brazil. Maybe we shouldn't talk about it so much and try to keep it our little secret. Ha Ha, just joking. If it was not for the ISG and contributors like yourself and many others, too many to mention in this post, I would not have gone to Brazil and checked it out for myself back in April 2021. I am sure glad I did.
Next week I'll be making my first ever visit to SP. Admittedly I've haven't even been reading the forum here lately as I just left Medellin yesterday and been too busy with the chicas there. Back in the USA now for a few days and need to know entry requirements for my trip to Brazil. Do I need either an antigen or PCR negative test result to enter? Is there a CheckMig type app (Colombia requirement) I need to complete for entry?
I've read enough here over the last year to know the scene from afar. I have a list of clinicas to visit with some recommendations from guys I met in Medellin. And I'll probably be a regular evening visitor to Scandellos as my trip is only ten nights before returning to Medellin. I have no Portu speaking ability but my Spanish is good enough I rarely need to used translate except for a word here and there. So hope they are kind to me LOL.
Over the next couple days I'll read the last 25 or 30 pages of posts on this forum to catch up on the latest news and happenings.
Anybody in town and willing to help me learn the day scene and / or hitting Scandellos together please PM me. This is an expoloratory trip for me to see if I want to spend more time in Brazil this winter or just stay in Medellin again. Thanks!This is what you need; "Passengers will be refused boarding if they do not hold a document confirming a negative RT-PCR test result issued within 72 hours prior to departure, or a negative antigenic test result issued within 24 hours prior to departure. The document must be issued by a laboratory recognized by the health authority of their country of residence and must be in Portuguese, English or Spanish".
You also have to fill this form, even if the link doesn't work now; "The Traveler Health Declaration (DSV) can be found at https://formulario.anvisa.gov.br/."
When I was there the check-in agent wanted to see all the documents, but nobody asked for them in Brazil.
EverythingBlue
11-24-21, 23:43
Next week I'll be making my first ever visit to SP. Admittedly I've haven't even been reading the forum here lately as I just left Medellin yesterday and been too busy with the chicas there. Back in the USA now for a few days and need to know entry requirements for my trip to Brazil. Do I need either an antigen or PCR negative test result to enter? Is there a CheckMig type app (Colombia requirement) I need to complete for entry?
I've read enough here over the last year to know the scene from afar. I have a list of clinicas to visit with some recommendations from guys I met in Medellin. And I'll probably be a regular evening visitor to Scandellos as my trip is only ten nights before returning to Medellin. I have no Portu speaking ability but my Spanish is good enough I rarely need to used translate except for a word here and there. So hope they are kind to me LOL.
Over the next couple days I'll read the last 25 or 30 pages of posts on this forum to catch up on the latest news and happenings.
Anybody in town and willing to help me learn the day scene and / or hitting Scandellos together please PM me. This is an expoloratory trip for me to see if I want to spend more time in Brazil this winter or just stay in Medellin again. Thanks!I'm on the ground and will report back this weekend when I have some time. So far I've visited Clinicas, Cafe Photo and Casarao. I have met some online girls too. But tonight I'm heading to Scandallo to seek my ultimate goal, an 8 or above willing to provide BBFS. I will report back, and if I strike out tonight I will attempt tomorrow again.
Lucky Nuts
11-25-21, 04:41
This is what you need; "Passengers will be refused boarding if they do not hold a document confirming a negative RT-PCR test result issued within 72 hours prior to departure, or a negative antigenic test result issued within 24 hours prior to departure. The document must be issued by a laboratory recognized by the health authority of their country of residence and must be in Portuguese, English or Spanish".
You also have to fill this form, even if the link doesn't work now; "The Traveler Health Declaration (DSV) can be found at https://formulario.anvisa.gov.br/."
When I was there the check-in agent wanted to see all the documents, but nobody asked for them in Brazil.Thanks Nordico that's exactly the info I was searching. I've had so many swabs up my nose the last 18 months I don't even care anymore LOL.
Documents are the same entering the USA As you show your negative antigen test result before boarding the flight to USA. Upon arrival there is no further check of that.
Vagabundo1
11-25-21, 04:42
Or just stay in Brazil.
Thanks Nordico that's exactly the info I was searching. I've had so many swabs up my nose the last 18 months I don't even care anymore LOL.
Documents are the same entering the USA As you show your negative antigen test result before boarding the flight to USA. Upon arrival there is no check of that.
I'm on the ground and will report back this weekend when I have some time. So far I've visited Clinicas, Cafe Photo and Casarao. I have met some online girls too. But tonight I'm heading to Scandallo to seek my ultimate goal, an 8 or above willing to provide BBFS. I will report back, and if I strike out tonight I will attempt tomorrow again.At the risk of starting a long STD convo. I understand if you do not think the risks to you are that concerning. But its very much like not being vaccinated - yes its a personal choice but its a choice that has implications for others. You risk your own health, of course, but you risk infecting other girls and by extension we board members who love Scandallo will also be at higher risk. I expect that you've already made up your mind, but may I suggest the following? Try out a non-BBFS session first, and then if everything goes well take a same-day STD test with the girl before going for BBFS. I can pretty much guarantee that the girl will be less worried / stressed and thus more excited if she knew you were safe. And vice versa.
EverythingBlue
11-25-21, 19:05
I arrived early on Sunday for my second trip in SP. Easy to go through immigration and also getting an Uber. I took it from arrivals T3 as usual, and no pirate taxis were in sight this time.
I arrived at The Renaissance pretty early, before 8 am. Most rooms were not available but they accommodated me on a temporary room while a better option become available. I'm happy to report that things at the hotel seem operating at full speed once again, lots of people hanging around, including working girls at the bar LOL. This place remains my choice during trips here, great location, no issues with girls, I've walked in at 11:30 pm and another time at 2 am with girls and no issues or need to check them in.
Weather is warmer, could definitely use shorts if walking around Moema between Clinicas, and traffic also seems worse. Uber remains the choice of transportation with zero issue for me.
For the fun, I did some homework the week prior reaching out to online girls to schedule dates, as early as the night of my arrival.
Online Girls.
I saw Lia Gaucha on Sunday, can be found on Private55. I'm an ass guy, this girl has the biggest ass on a white girl I've enjoyed. She's a few pounds extra, but the majority of them are on her ass. The session was a bit mechanical, but I would repeat just to enjoy her tremendous butt.
Isadora Gaucha I saw her on Tuesday, she can be found on Twitter at Isadora_Gauchaa. Big tits and ass girl, her pics are accurate. As soon as she opened her door it was non stop kissing. I think her face is very pretty in person. Would see her again.
I saw Sofia Gaucha on Wednesday. Can you tell I like white girls with big butts? LOL. She's a bit elusive and luckily she happened to be available on same day notice. Her place is nice, modern. She's short, but very pretty and cute. Her body is very nice, and her kitty a pink delight. She likes talking a lot but she's worth the visit, especially if you like short curvy girls. Her Ig is at alee. Ruiva and her as is on Private55.
Clinicas.
I've visited Enjoy, Abbobora, Moema Prime and Mirunas. Quality remains high at Enjoy and Abbobora, just like last trip.
I sessioned with Amanda at Enjoy, this is a repeat. I beat a monger walking in by seconds when I picked her, guess what, when I was leaving after giving her a good pounding that required 2 phone calls from the desk to announce time was up he was still there waiting for her after LOL. Romantic isn't it?
Sessioned with Nicoli and Maite at Abbobora. Nicoli was fun and happy, her first day according to her. At some point she started doing a camel slide on my dick, so I thought she wanted to go BBFS, but she was just teasing. She was fun but nothing to brag about.
Maite I would skip. I ended the session in 20 min and took my losses. Her body seemed good with a nice butt and enhanced tits, she has an small belly, but the main issue was too mechanical and lack of chemistry. She barely kissed, lackluster BBBJ, when riding she asked me to cum fast, and when we switched to missionary wouldn't look at me. I stopped and took a shower, she tried to convince me to stay but I had another appointment later so no need to waste my pop.
Boates.
Cafe Photo.
I went on Monday night. I arrived around 10 pm, only about 5 guys and around 15 girls. Nice place, with live music that's actually good. I saw a negra that I wanted but a monger beat me to her, but I spotted another girl that looked pretty good and I asked her to come over to my table. Girls can't approach unless asked here, and the place is small enough to see them all from the main floor, so I like it. I finished my meal and kept talking with her, we agreed to come back to my hotel and after verifying test results from each other agreed on BBFS. The good thing about this place currently is there is no exit fee for girls, because rooms won't be ready in house for another 2 months. As far as my girl, she performed great, super intense and just what I wanted, super excited. I might see her again.
Casarao.
I went on Tuesday night and showed up around 11 pm. Very small place, not luxurious with a well mixed crowd, I don't think a lot of high paid Brazilian men visit this place. Talent was lacking, only a couple of girls I would do, but they were hoarded by the same guys the whole time I was there, without going for a session. Entry fee is 30 reals dry or 50 reals consumable. I had 2 drinks, paid about 100 reals and left empty handed.
Scandallo.
I went Wednesday night. 400 entry with 200 consumable. A lot of hot girls around 11 pm. I spotted about five 9's, busy of course, and quite a few 8's. Still a good amount of lower quality, but I have no complaints in talent. The place was rocking, I think better than September when I was there. Good amount of men too, but still enough girls to find your pick. I talked to a few girls and had serious conversations with 2. The first we sat at the couch, talked about different things and finally got to the details, she wanted 2000 to go back to my hotel, and no BBFS. I passed since both price and menu wasn't what I wanted, but took her number in case I changed my mind. Then I found another girl, slim body and cute face. Sat at the couch again and had good chemistry, we hit the breaking point of menu again, showed her my test results and eventually she agreed to come to my hotel for 1300 with BBFS, and stay until 6 am or so. I was about to relent and accept no BBFS but she just hugged me and agreed. She was great in bed, clean and tight, and stayed with me until past 9 am, I got her an Uber and sent her home. Super sweet girl, I even bought breakfast for us in bed since we hit it off very well.
So far so good, I might hit Scandallo again or Connection on Friday. The weekend I might repeat with the girls or go to Cafe Photo. It seems girls are motivated to make some extra money prior to the holidays, and many have told me they start vacation on mid December not to be back until the second week of January. So I think I will cancel my early January trip. Just a heads up in case you are planning on heading here around the holidays, do your prep work.
EB.
MixedSalad07
11-25-21, 19:44
Only did one clinica: Prime.
The other nights were Scandallo, Bomboa, Lotus Lounge, and Cafe Photo or in-calls / repeats from contacts established at the aforementioned boates.
I had NO BAD sessions. Chemistry, skill set and preferences varied among all the girls, but I was legit satisfied with all of my experiences.
If I felt a situation or girl wasn't right for me, I moved on even and didn't let sunk costs, such as time or money spent on drinks, affect my decision.
There were a few signs of potential red flags, but I think I was able to smooth over any issues that could have turned south: one dulpa asked for the money up front for a pernoite, another was lukewarm during the "interview" and didn't want to shower together in the room, and another session was secured after a lengthy deliberation on cost and time.
The dulpa duo cited previous bad experiences as their rationale for requesting payment upfront. I told them my point of view, and reassured them of my capacity and intent to pay. I gave them a partial payment up front to assuage their concerns and the rest on the back end. I ended up repeating and the second time all funds were received on the back end, and there was no concern shown for accuracy of payment or time of services provided. Vibe and chemistry were perfect for what I was looking for, performance was solid.
One girl from Bomboa who I pursued rather aggressively seemed a bit meek in the boate area. She also didn't want to shower together in the room, However everything else was great. I guess that's just her personality and preference. She reminded me of a Brazilian pornstar, Kelly, I used to watch less Kelly's huge natural breasts.
I took one girl out from Cafe Photo: a stunning branca with light green eyes (contacts maybe?) She and my last scandallo girl looked like they could have been news anchors IMO. She was the only one that I had a long deliberation with on price / length of service. Fellow ISG member Besari took her friend, and the friends attempt at price collusion affected my negation. Eventually we settled on 1,000 from 2 h+. She wanted something a lot steeper on the opening gambit. I was concerned that the drawn out haggling would affect the performance. Ultimately I knew what I was offering was fair and that the night wasn't getting any longer. Fortunately we had a great session. She was amenable to the usual services, less anal. I believe she and her friend were newer to SP if I recall correctly.
Lotus Club was relatively dead. I did meet a girl there that looks like the actress Morena Baccarin. She had a subtle hotness that I liked. Natural and fit. We exchanged contact info and she came to my hotel a few days later. She was flexible on rate and fee. I had a great time with her, again no complaints. 3 h+ for 1000.
Bookended the trip with Scandallo trips. Both sessions were solid and were had for 800 and 700 respectively. I would have taken the second one out for a pernoite if I had the time. I'll definitely repeat on a future trip if the opportunity is there.
There's always "room for improvement", but this is probably the first time I'd say I had a perfect trip session wise with no duds. Following my own judgement, gauging chemistry and de-escalating issues that arose helped. I also tended not to negotiate prices too aggressively. I'll have a price range in mind that I think is fair for both parties that I won't deviate from, but I'm not trying to have the situation result in a win / lose or lose / win.
Also was able to link with a few ISG bros: Trojan, Besari, and SocratesNY. They elevated my experience and my trip would have been less successful without them.
JackNimble
11-26-21, 08:37
I have RTFF going back over a year, but still have an earnest question for the experienced board members who have been to Scandallo (and other (not quite as good?) Sampa area clubs): are there ladies there in any significant number night in and night out who can speak passable English?
While I am semi-fluent in Spanish, I don't find (at least my level of) Spanish a reasonable substitute for Brazilian Porto. And I would not like my hopes / chances on finding the "needle in the haystack" English speaker. Yeah, yeah, I realize that cash / effectivo can do a lot of the speaking for me (along with a Google or other translator app), but as we all know, actually being able to communicate (at least a little) beyond $$ or stilted stiff translator app back and forth goes a long way in enhancing the chance for a stellar sessions or, indeed, sessions. Wish I were better at languages -- and can already hear the knee-jerk response that I simply need to learn some Portuguese; but answer me this, at least at those higher level clubs -- any ladies in any reasonable numbers that speak passable English?
are there ladies there in any significant number night in and night out who can speak passable English?
yeah, I realize that cash / effectivo can do a lot of the speaking for me...but answer me this, at least at those higher level clubs -- any ladies in any reasonable numbers that speak passable English?Short answer: Of course!
With English speakers, anticipate an attempt at surcharge.
Great reports EverythingBlue and MixedSalad07 !!
I will be down in mid January but am planning a weekend to Buzios with the girl from Scandello that I spent the weekend with last time. Will also put in a report on how the weekend goes.
Short answer: Of course!
With English speakers, anticipate an attempt at surcharge.I met very few who had decent English. Maybe 2 out of the dozen girls I was with spoke English to last longer than a super basic conversation.
Good report. The places you went give you a chance to interact to get a vibe which is good. How much was the dupla for pernoite? I think I will do similar to you when I go. Probably try one or two of the top Clinica's and than focus on clubs.
Only did one clinica: Prime.
The other nights were Scandallo, Bomboa, Lotus Lounge, and Cafe Photo or in-calls / repeats from contacts established at the aforementioned boates.
I had NO BAD sessions. Chemistry, skill set and preferences varied among all the girls, but I was legit satisfied with all of my experiences.
If I felt a situation or girl wasn't right for me, I moved on even and didn't let sunk costs, such as time or money spent on drinks, affect my decision.
There were a few signs of potential red flags, but I think I was able to smooth over any issues that could have turned south: one dulpa asked for the money up front for a pernoite, another was lukewarm during the "interview" and didn't want to shower together in the room, and another session was secured after a lengthy deliberation on cost and time.
The dulpa duo cited previous bad experiences as their rationale for requesting payment upfront. I told them my point of view, and reassured them of my capacity and intent to pay. I gave them a partial payment up front to assuage their concerns and the rest on the back end. I ended up repeating and the second time all funds were received on the back end, and there was no concern shown for accuracy of payment or time of services provided. Vibe and chemistry were perfect for what I was looking for, performance was solid...
Steve 9696
11-27-21, 02:06
I have RTFF going back over a year, but still have an earnest question for the experienced board members who have been to Scandallo (and other (not quite as good?) Sampa area clubs): are there ladies there in any significant number night in and night out who can speak passable English?
While I am semi-fluent in Spanish, I don't find (at least my level of) Spanish a reasonable substitute for Brazilian Porto. And I would not like my hopes / chances on finding the "needle in the haystack" English speaker. Yeah, yeah, I realize that cash / effectivo can do a lot of the speaking for me (along with a Google or other translator app), but as we all know, actually being able to communicate (at least a little) beyond $$ or stilted stiff translator app back and forth goes a long way in enhancing the chance for a stellar sessions or, indeed, sessions. Wish I were better at languages -- and can already hear the knee-jerk response that I simply need to learn some Portuguese; but answer me this, at least at those higher level clubs -- any ladies in any reasonable numbers that speak passable English?Rextor is right. Very few speak English. That said it's the wrong question. Can you have an awesome time w zero Porto? Absolutely. I'the say 80% of the posters here have little to none and are killing it anyhow. Also the conversation mode on Google translate is amazing. No awkward typing. Each just speaks in native language out loud and it auto translates. Works amazingly well and much more fluid.
GoneFishin
11-27-21, 02:24
Does anyone know for certain if SP will host Carnival this coming year? My internet searches are not clear on the answer.
Thanks,
GF.
Also the conversation mode on Google translate is amazing. No awkward typing. Each just speaks in native language out loud and it auto translates. Works amazingly well and much more fluid.I just tried this app feature out, and it is quite amazing indeed! After setting your two languages, all you have to do is speak into the device and it will translate what you said, either as text or spoken aloud (or both depending on your settings). No more typing for me! Well, I probably will want to be a little more discreet when I say that I like oral without a condom and anal sex LOLOLOL!
You don't really need Portuguese to have fun until maybe you want to get to the next level. There were times that I just avoided saying too much in messages because it could lead to confusion even using a translator so I ended up sticking with basic stuff and not talk too much.
... at least at those higher level clubs -- any ladies in any reasonable numbers that speak passable English?Higher level clubs just mean the girl appearance is better and change more. Logically speaking, beauty, brain, and prostitute is a rare combination. There are just not that many that can also speak English. It's a low percentage, other people can get it, but it does not mean you will too. Because once the girl is taken, you have to wait for your turn if she is released.
I met three that speak English at various levels. Only one who prostitutes internationally speaks English fluently. You can get her online for 300 less than what she charges at Scandallo. One is a college student but her English is very basic. Another one I met at 4 x4 and said she worked at Scandallo when we were in the room using translator. She practically jammed her tongue down my throat that I have to take her to the room. LOL The other monger that I went with who lives in Centro told me later that she started from trash club. But she is very hot. This one texts me in English that I believe using translator even when I text in Portuguese.
The Critic
11-27-21, 12:26
Does anyone know for certain if SP will host Carnival this coming year? My internet searches are not clear on the answer.
Thanks,
GF.
Sao Paulo Carnival 2022.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/brazilian-mayors-torn-carnival-pandemic-safety-81397010
https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2021/11/24/58-brazilian-cities-cancel-carnival-rio-sao-paulo-ok/
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2021/11/cidades-do-interior-de-sp-cancelam-carnaval-por-causa-da-covid.shtml
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2021/11/cidades-do-interior-de-sp-cancelam-carnaval-por-causa-da-covid.shtml
Sao Paulo Carnival 2022.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/brazilian-mayors-torn-carnival-pandemic-safety-81397010
https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2021/11/24/58-brazilian-cities-cancel-carnival-rio-sao-paulo-ok/
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2021/11/cidades-do-interior-de-sp-cancelam-carnaval-por-causa-da-covid.shtml
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2021/11/cidades-do-interior-de-sp-cancelam-carnaval-por-causa-da-covid.shtmlI have been to Sao Paulo's carnival. Thousands of bodies jammed tightly together. Very pandemic friendly.
IMO, Brazil is the easiest Latin American country to get by with little knowledge of the native language. In most cases there's not as much to negotiate except money. Maybe anal and / or BBFS. Other services like DFK, BBBJ, etc. Are pretty much standard service, unlike other countries.
Lucky Nuts
11-27-21, 19:07
I'll be visiting Scandellos a few times next week and just wondering how I should prepare to dress. Can I just dress very comfortable in shorts and t-shirt or should I plan to look nicer with button down shirts and jeans? What do most guys wear at this club? Is it mostly open air or inside and air-conditioned? TIA.
Steve I tried to PM you with this question but you're at your limit of messages
I have RTFF going back over a year, but still have an earnest question for the experienced board members who have been to Scandallo (and other (not quite as good?) Sampa area clubs): are there ladies there in any significant number night in and night out who can speak passable English?
While I am semi-fluent in Spanish, I don't find (at least my level of) Spanish a reasonable substitute for Brazilian Porto. And I would not like my hopes / chances on finding the "needle in the haystack" English speaker. Wish I were better at languages -- and can already hear the knee-jerk response that I simply need to learn some Portuguese; but answer me this, at least at those higher level clubs -- any ladies in any reasonable numbers that speak passable English?I speak Spanish, but very little Portugues, and I've had incredible experiences in Brasil over the years. I wouldn't go out of your way to find an English speaking chick. It's just not necessary. If you speak Spanish, they will generally understand what you're saying. However, you won't understand what they're saying. But it won't really matter that much. You will find ways to communicate -- thousands of guys have been in the same situation and done just fine.
Steve 9696
11-27-21, 20:47
I'll be visiting Scandellos a few times next week and just wondering how I should prepare to dress. Can I just dress very comfortable in shorts and t-shirt or should I plan to look nicer with button down shirts and jeans? What do most guys wear at this club? Is it mostly open air or inside and air-conditioned? TIA.
Steve I tried to PM you with this question but you're at your limit of messagesSorry. Cleared inbox. In brief I'd dress to impress. Don't need a sport coat but long pants, nice shirt, nice shoes is what I'd recommend. I know a lot of guys say it's purely a money game but there are lotsa guys there and the hot girls can pick and choose. My rule of thumb is always look your best and make her feel good about the date if you want the best outcome.
GoneFishin
11-28-21, 10:54
Unfortunately, that is my time frame to visit. Just wanted to know what was decided. I may just end up in Portugal and Spain instead.
GF.
I have been to Sao Paulo's carnival. Thousands of bodies jammed tightly together. Very pandemic friendly.
IMO, Brazil is the easiest Latin American country to get by with little knowledge of the native language.......That's so with regards to p4p. Your comment made me recall my one time visit during carnival. There were so many approachable non-pro women walking the streets looking for guys to party with. I tried my luck but these babes weren't looking for guys walking around with google translate to have fun with. I thought to myself, if only I knew the native lingo. Ah well.
MixedSalad07
11-28-21, 17:23
Good report. The places you went give you a chance to interact to get a vibe which is good. How much was the dupla for pernoite?.I paid 3 K per night. I met them in Scandallo, so that inflates the price a bit which I understood. Wasn't too price sensitive as I was in town to celebrate. Anaggie's past trip report gave me inspiration to try something like this over a more extended period. I'd refer back to some of his old posts as well. Initially I was just looking for a weekend companion, not a dulpa. I kind of got nudged into the situation by a wing man, and it ended up working out very well.
Most girls in Scandallo who I showed an interest in started off the negotiations for a per noite at 2K. One Paulista told me that she didn't do pernoites. Of course YMMV.
Good luck!
I got this website sent to me via WhatsApp and maybe it can help someone out.
https://melhoreskamas.com/
One girl from Bomboa who I pursued rather aggressively seemed a bit meek in the boate area. She also didn't want to shower together in the room, However everything else was great. I guess that's just her personality and preference. She reminded me of a Brazilian pornstar, Kelly, I used to watch less Kelly's huge natural breasts.Ahhh, Kelly. Kelly is simply the winner of the genetic mega-lottery. Pretty face, big large breasts and a big firm ass. For those of us young enough to remember, she was literally built like Playboy's running comic character Little Annie Fanny. Who would think there was women like this.
Kelly used to knock around Copacabana in the mid-2000's. I didn't run into her at Help Disco. (I'm guessing she was gobbled up early if she showed up.) We ran into her on a rainy non-beach day hanging out at Meia Pataca. She was wearing a baggy, matching sweat outfit. I called her over to our table. I steered one of my buddies who likes big, natural breasts to take her home for a midday hook-up. The crew thought she looked a bit chubby in her non-revealing clothing. I was apparently the only one who knew who she was (and what her body looked like underneath her baggy clothing). I told them every pound was accounted for in dramatic fashion in her breasts and ass.
My buddy went home with her and had a great time. At Meia Pataca, Kelly was a very cool, friendly chick. Kinda regret not taking her home myself.
The Critic
11-30-21, 05:17
I got this website sent to me via WhatsApp and maybe it can help someone out.
https://melhoreskamas.com/I also got sent a website.
http://www.lencontro.com.br/
Does anyone have experience with SA / seeking on here? Some good candidates but I've haven't tried yet.
I'm leaning towards an Airbnb rental over hotel. Assuming I clear it with the owner. I plan on booking one for 3 guests, are there any other negatives to using one?. Would an independent escort be more reluctant to visit an Airbnb over a hotel? I've used Airbnb only in Ireland and England with mixed results. The place I had in England had an issue with the heater.
EverythingBlue
12-01-21, 06:30
I just got back from completing my second trip to SP. Overall it was a good trip, the highlight was finally experiencing Scandallo's potential. But first, some final comments.
SP seems to be improving along quite nicely since the pandemic has eased, I don't get the same sense of concern among people anymore, which to me is great. I know many are stilling sitting on the sidelines, and if you are because you prefer social distancing, then remain where you are. I saw full capacity bars and restaurants, hotels are definitely getting full again, and our beloved Scandallo was rocking Wednesday and Friday night. I imagine next year's Carnival will be incredible.
The more I monger in Brazil the less appealing Clinicas become, I think I'm starting to see more appeal in finding a stunning girl at a boate and enjoying time together, have a mini relationship if you want to call it that, versus being with many girls for short sessions in Clinicas.
I had planned to repeat with an online girl from my prior trip, but she ghosted me, and so on Friday I head back to Scandallo. I arrived around 10:30 pm feeling a little hungry, so I went to the dining room for a quick bite. I spotted a few hot girls, some already giving me looks, some already taken unfortunately. But I had the feeling the talent would be quite high this night, and I was right.
Once I finished I got up and grabbed a drink. I walked the place a couple of times to spot the talent, and then came back around to the club area. First I talked to a couple of girls, including a 19 year old that says she's being doing this for 5 months, and that she will do "tudo" in bed except anal, that she's saving that for her future husband. She quotes 1000 for an hour or 2000 to come back to my hotel. I decided to take her number and pass. Other girls approach me, and some become hard to shake off, but I politely say I'm not interested in talking to them, and if they insist I head to the restroom and keep moving.
Finally, here comes this girl wearing a tight sexy dress that accentuated her fit body, beautiful green eyes, branca skin and a perfect butt. Our eyes locked in for a couple of seconds and we both smiled, I lost her for a moment and thought I had lost her to another monger, but when I found her again our eyes stayed locked in this time, until we embraced for a hug and a kiss.
We settled down to talk on the couches for what seemed like minutes even though it was close to an hour and half, eventually I approached the topic of service and compensation, I asked about kissing and she said joking that the only thing I had to worry about is if I was a bad kisser, only one way to find out then, we made out right there and then. She was adamant about no BBFS, and started her rate to come to my hotel at 2000, I was only able to bring her down to 1500, which to me was well worth the price of admission for this fine 26 year old lady.
WOW. Service at my hotel was incredible, we fucked like 2 lovers full of passion. We had so much chemistry it was crazy. It's the experience I had been waiting to find, and there it was, finally. She stayed with me for about 3 and half hours, my only complaint is I would've liked her to sleep in, but she's not the type to be tamed easily.
The next day I thought about bringing her over again, but we couldn't agree on price. So I decided to try Scandallo again, this time my luck ran out, quality was pretty low around midnight Saturday when I left empty handed, regretting not seeing my dear lover from the night before. More disappointed knowing that this could have been the last night to see her again, since I had to head back to the States Monday night.
But I'm a persistent monger, and so on Sunday we met up again, we visited Skye Bar for dinner and drinks, and then headed back to my hotel. A fellow monger recommended the place for great views and fancy setting, and it sure hit the spot. Once again she performed admirably in bed, but the level of connection and our conversations made me feel like I was indeed hanging out with a girlfriend. Brazilian girls are the best at this, no doubt. I hated having to say good bye, I really enjoyed my time with her a lot. And so, in short, yes Scandallo is the place to find the one, the place to find a gold mine.
On the topic of BBFS, I was able to acquire it by both negotiating upfront at Boates and even from online girls by repeating and stating what I wanted during the session. Offering a little extra helps with some, others just being cool and friendly, but definitely being able to talk a bit of Portoespanol helped. I'm not sure I could've pulled this off using only Google Translate.
Lastly, I spoke to quite a few girls about Christmas and New Years holidays, and sure enough most will be out starting around Dec. 20 and until around January 5, so be mindful about this and plan ahead if you decide to come out then. Me, I will cancel my trip. Maybe I'll be back after Carnaval, many girls told me they don't enjoy it as much, since it's too crowded. We'll see. Until the next time.
EB.
I'm leaning towards an Airbnb rental over hotel. Assuming I clear it with the owner....Hotel is more straightforward. Airbnb will depend more on the building security and probably your Portuguese ability. If you are in a building with security, the security shift at night may not even recognized you so it is a hassle to get thru that with the girl if that happens. If the building has no security, then there is no problem.
Steve 9696
12-01-21, 17:40
Everything Blue I sure enjoyed your write up. So happy to see you come to the Boate side of the fence. It's sooo amazing if you have the coin. I notice more guys doing the takeout — I've only done the hourly st Scandalo. May have to give it a try when I get back.
I don't know if you are a USA guy but let me say if you are that Seeking Arrangement is AMAZING for true GFE in the states. By true GFE I mean more than just DFK and BBBJ — a true and whole girlfriend experience including dinner and nightlife and sleeping over. I am going to be seeing Kayla for the fifth long weekend since I discovered her in August (Miami). Doing 500/24 hrs and she is a solid nine. Done a ton of 7-9's in the past two pandemic years on SA. It's amazing.
See the thread under General and Dating Agencies for more or PM me. Thanks again for your contribution to the forum!
The Critic
12-02-21, 04:15
I just got back from completing my second trip to SP. Overall it was a good trip, the highlight was finally experiencing Scandallo's potential. Thanks for the good report. Nice read.
Does anyone have experience with SA in SP? I tried to hit up a few girls but I am not sure what the price range is and what the usual expectations are.
I should add that I am a newbie in SA.
Thanks guys.
Mr Enternational
12-02-21, 12:17
SP seems to be improving along quite nicely since the pandemic has eased, Well this fucking immigration line is not improving any. I have never seen so many people in a line in my life. It is 8 am. I will be lucky to get out of here by nightfall.
Well this fucking immigration line is not improving any. I have never seen so many people in a line in my life. It is 8 am. I will be lucky to get out of here by nightfall.Are the policia federal on one of their strikes (working to rule) again?
Well this fucking immigration line is not improving any. I have never seen so many people in a line in my life. It is 8 am. I will be lucky to get out of here by nightfall.Holy crap. Was that to enter or leave the country? Why the backup?
Great report below. I prefer the same as you. I would rather pay for a weekend with the same girl with on demand services rather than go on the hunt for whenever the itch strikes.
I'm leaning towards an Airbnb rental over hotel. Assuming I clear it with the owner. I plan on booking one for 3 guests, are there any other negatives to using one?. Would an independent escort be more reluctant to visit an Airbnb over a hotel? I've used Airbnb only in Ireland and England with mixed results. The place I had in England had an issue with the heater.Girls are ok with AirbnB but make sure the AirbnB you are renting allows visits. Heater can be an issue in SP during the (Southern hemisphere) winter.
Mr Enternational
12-02-21, 22:08
Well this fucking immigration line is not improving any. I have never seen so many people in a line in my life. It is 8 am. I will be lucky to get out of here by nightfall.It was arriving into the country. Seemed to be plenty of immigration agents, just many more people. It took 2 and a half hours to get through. When all the Brazilians finished they opened up that side for foreigners, then I was at the right place at the right time when dude opened the thing to let people near the back go to the Brazilian side.
Then the chick that I am staying with picked me up. Her house is 30 km from the airport. Took us like 2 hours to get here. She is a taxi driver and seriously asked me isn't every city in the world like this. NO bich, IT IS NOT! I would never leave the house if I had to endure some shit like this everyday.
Mr Enternational
12-02-21, 22:15
Girls are ok with AirbnB but make sure the AirbnB you are renting allows visits. Heater can be an issue in SP during the (Southern hemisphere) winter.Better make sure more things than allowing visitors. Just went downstairs in old girl's house to take a shower and was like what the literal fuck?! I thought I had seen it all. Why would anyone do that? She has some neighbor lady down there taking it down now so a normal person can fit.
Just went downstairs in old girl's house to take a shower and was like what the literal fuck?! I thought I had seen it all. Why would anyone do that? She has some neighbor lady down there taking it down now so a normal person can fit.The guys constructing bathrooms in Brazil are no genius. I've seem so many weird bathrooms. The toilet placed partly under the sink so you had to sit sideways (unless you're very short), wall sockets next to the showers, shower cabins so small that you couldn't close the door, a bathroom ceiling in a pousada was made of glass so the neighbours could watch you and not to forget all the showers with electric heaters that gives you electric shocks.
Does anyone have experience with SA in SP? I tried to hit up a few girls but I am not sure what the price range is and what the usual expectations are.
I should add that I am a newbie in SA.
Thanks guys.You should go to the Seeking Arrangements thread under Dating Agencies. There's a few guys who work predominantly work SA. These guys on that thread offer all sorts of tips on how to communicate and how to engage.
For whatever reason, they are not too keen on Brazil for SA. Perhaps the availability of pros / semi-pros and various mongering venues competes with SA. I'm sure there are some sugar baby relationships with sugar daddies in the higher echelons of Brazil. There always is, but the advantage of SA is that it has more attainable sugar babies.
Steve 9696
12-03-21, 18:55
You should go to the Seeking Arrangements thread under Dating Agencies. There's a few guys who work predominantly work SA. These guys on that thread offer all sorts of tips on how to communicate and how to engage.
For whatever reason, they are not too keen on Brazil for SA. Perhaps the availability of pros / semi-pros and various mongering venues competes with SA. I'm sure there are some sugar baby relationships with sugar daddies in the higher echelons of Brazil. There always is, but the advantage of SA is that it has more attainable sugar babies.Yes as Wyatt says def check out our Seeking thread here on SA. It's pretty active but mostly with USA at the moment with travel restrictions. You will have to go back several pages to find guides and tips. Or if you just want to read about some great sex check out my post recently about unexpected lesbian duo.
I do think SP might not be the best place for Seeking because:
1. It has a great paid sex scene. Boates and CLínicas. There is less need for Seeking.
2. Most girls speak little to no English and a dinner date (a nice part of seeking) is considerably less fun in that circumstance.
As far as price I have found that if you know hourly hooker prices this might be a good expectation for an evening PPM (pay per meet) with a Seeking girl. So if say R500-600 is a good high end one hour experience in SP then you might expect to find good SA girls for a whole evening at that price. It is much more like dating tho. How long she stays and if she sleeps over is totally up to her and how much she likes you. Because the pay is the same.
I was involved in a bar fight and was arrested at the airport while trying to leave the country. I'm in that hotel / jail at Garuhlos. I still have access to my phone and computer. If you know an attorney in Sao Paulo please inbox me the info. Obrigado.
I arrived early on Sunday for my second trip in SP. Easy to go through immigration and also getting an Uber. I took it from arrivals T3 as usual, and no pirate taxis were in sight this time.
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So far so good, I might hit Scandallo again or Connection on Friday. The weekend I might repeat with the girls or go to Cafe Photo. It seems girls are motivated to make some extra money prior to the holidays, ..
EB.Excellent report sir, very informative!
Well, here are a handful that I like for both Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. I have used these and been quite satisfied overall:
https://www.private55.com/
https://clubmodel.com.br/
https://www.riosexsite.com/
https://www.rioencontro.com.br/
https://www.barravipsrio.com/Belated thank you. Will check these out.
Belated thank you. Will check these out.Don't forget this one: https://mclass.com/. "Nanda" looks like one of those Asian beauties we've been talking about!
I was involved in a bar fight and was arrested at the airport while trying to leave the country. I'm in that hotel / jail at Garuhlos. I still have access to my phone and computer. If you know an attorney in Sao Paulo please inbox me the info. Obrigado.I'm assuming you are an American citizen. If so, you should contact the United States Consulate in Sao Paolo for help:
https://br.usembassy.gov/embassy-consulates/saopaulo/
USA Citizens with emergencies, please call (61) 3312-7400.
Outside of Office Hours, contact: (61) 3312-7400.
SamaRiding
12-05-21, 02:16
I remembering reading some SIM card (cheep) saga reports. Although I have T-Mobile with free international roaming, the data speed is crap. So I just got into SP and decided to get a SIM card. There is a news stand one block away from CLínica Prime that sells all the carriers (Vivo, TIM etc) prepaid SIM cards. I got the Vivo which was for 3 Gb and unlimited phone? For 15 are. The other carriers were also 15 r. Not sure what the duration is, maybe a month? No passport, CPF, bank account, address, mother maiden name. Just gave the guy 15 r cash and got the SIM. I inserted it into my phone and within a few minutes, it's working.
This is address of news stand.
Av. Iraí, 297 - Moema, São Paulo. SP, 04082-000, Brazil.
Oh before this. Last night, I went to the Vivo store on the 3rd floor in the Moema mall, showed them my CPF and passport, took a ticket number, waited and then the guy tells me the SIM activating system is down. Hahaha.
SamaRiding
12-05-21, 02:30
Field report. I just arrived at this club. The door is checking vaccination cards! I was shocked and not prepared. First time have been asked for vaccination here. I didn't bring my paper card. But I showed my New York State COVID app and that was ok. There were a bunch of locals outside who couldn't get in. Inside is completely empty at 10:27 p on a Saturday. Probably took everybody by surprised.
SamaRiding
12-05-21, 06:29
OK. I spoke too soon. Casarão was empty at 10:30 p but good numbers by 11:30 p. New girls were coming even at midnight, so definitely a late night place. Entry was 30 r with no consumption. Or 50 r, all consumption. Beers was 20 r. Mixed crowd of young and old. Better music than Scandallo, a mixed of rock. I saw two Clínica prime girls working at this boate, one spinner who I have been with several time before. Funny meeting her. Maybe 30-40 girls. Average girl is definitely less than Scandallo average. But there are some hotties. I took a early 20's branca thin blonde with perfect breasts. Her initial ask was 400 r for half hour or 500 r for one hour. I ask if she kissed and she immediately DFKed me and I just counter 400 r for one hour and she agreed. All GFE session. The room was 80 r for one hour and was good. It's next door. You have to pay your bill and they give a white wristband if you want to come back. Room setup like Scandallo with glass shower and toilet, but room was smaller and not as nice.
I also went into the American Balneário club next door to check it out. Cover was 20 r. It was empty. Maybe 6 not cute girls. Só skip it. Augusta Ave was packed with young party kids. Some of the clubs had over 100 people waiting on line on the streets. A few decent looking bars if you want just want a drink with the locals. Also there were a bunch late night food places that were still open at 2 am when I left.
Yes as Wyatt says def check out our Seeking thread here on SA. It's pretty active but mostly with USA at the moment with travel restrictions. You will have to go back several pages to find guides and tips. Or if you just want to read about some great sex check out my post recently about unexpected lesbian duo.
I do think SP might not be the best place for Seeking because:
1. It has a great paid sex scene. Boates and CLnicas. There is less need for Seeking.
2. Most girls speak little to no English and a dinner date (a nice part of seeking) is considerably less fun in that circumstance.
As far as price I have found that if you know hourly hooker prices this might be a good expectation for an evening PPM (pay per meet) with a Seeking girl. So if say R500-600 is a good high end one hour experience in SP then you might expect to find good SA girls for a whole evening at that price. It is much more like dating tho. How long she stays and if she sleeps over is totally up to her and how much she likes you. Because the pay is the same.Thanks guys for your feedback.
I will place my questions in the SA Thread, I just didn't see any Brazil topics there that's why I thought I should place it in SP Thread.
I also thought about 700 - 1000 Reais should do for PPM.
I will report back my experiences if they let me in the country in January.
Thanks guys for your feedback.
I will place my questions in the SA Thread, I just didn't see any Brazil topics there that's why I thought I should place it in SP Thread.
I also thought about 700 - 1000 Reais should do for PPM.
I will report back my experiences if they let me in the country in January.I will try SA next week when I arrive. YMMV though because I'm in my late 20's so not sure what to expect.
I will try SA next week when I arrive. YMMV though because I'm in my late 20's so not sure what to expect.What's the appeal with SA? No guarantee sex cost the same if not more. SA girls are all semi pros which can be found in boates also for 3000-10000 R month and a girl I use see in the boate got a hook for 50,000 R a month for 3 months.
BTW, if you don't live in BR guess what she is doing when you're not around.
What's the appeal with SA? No guarantee sex cost the same if not more. SA girls are all semi pros which can be found in boates also for 3000-10000 R month and a girl I use see in the boate got a hook for 50,000 R a month for 3 months.
BTW, if you don't live in BR guess what she is doing when you're not around.I will also frequent Scandalo to see what all the hype is about. Just trying different avenues.
SamaRiding
12-08-21, 05:58
What's the appeal with SA? No guarantee sex cost the same if not more. SA girls are all semi pros which can be found in boates also for 3000-10000 R month and a girl I use see in the boate got a hook for 50,000 R a month for 3 months.Not sure he is looking for a long term semi-exclusive relationship.
Almost all the girls in the boates, online, and clinicas are open to mini relationships and "dates" as you can read from the many reports. Offer them a trip to Rio or Europe, and they will jump at it since many of girls have not been any where. I asked a Scandallo girl if she wanted to have dinner before sex, and she said yes. I didn't paid for her extra time, just her food and drinks. For Brazil, I see seeking as just another way to contact girls. There is also Twitter. I have a list of 70 girls on Twitter that I haven't even contacted yet. In countries like the USA, seeking plays a much bigger role since prostitution is illegal. In countries there it is legal like Brazil or Germany, I think it will play a much smaller part unless if the girls on seeking speak English, that would be a big plus since very few girls speak English well. Also in Brazil many of these girls are not full "pros" and have other jobs or school. One of my regular girls works in the hospital and her shifts are 12 h every other day and she told me I can see her on any of her days off. Another is a medical student.
I think 1000 r for most or all the night is a fair deal. I find that 200-250 r per hour is the sweet spot. Of course if you are Porto fluent and a local, you can do a lot better.
What's the appeal with SA? No guarantee sex cost the same if not more. SA girls are all semi pros which can be found in boates also for 3000-10000 R month and a girl I use see in the boate got a hook for 50,000 R a month for 3 months.
BTW, if you don't live in BR guess what she is doing when you're not around.My main goal is to get a Woman for short trips to Buzios or other nice places with a non pro. My experience is that a GP is nice and fun for max. A pernoite then they mostly have their schedule and are not into short pretended relationships.
Well I don't know if I don't try right.
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2021/12/doria-diz-que-vai-adotar-passaporte-vacinal-em-sp-em-15-de-dezembro.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw
“Governor Joao Doria (PSDB) stated that, if the federal government does not adhere to the vaccination passport by December 15, the document will be required throughout Sao Paulo as from that date.
According to the governor, the document will be required for anyone entering the state by any means, whether through airports, ports or road.
"Brazil cannot become a tourist paradise for deniers. The denial of this country only exists in the minds of this minister (of Health, Marcelo Queiroga) and the president. If by December 15 the federal government does not adopt the passport, Sao Paulo will adopt", said Doria”.
SamaRiding
12-09-21, 06:55
I wasn't planning to Casarão tonight. I had a girl who I met previously at connections and then again in a CLínica this week, come over to my place in the evening for a few hours. She mentioned she was going to work at Sasarão after our session and asked if I wanted to go. Why not. So I dumped my initial plan for Scandallo and we took an Uber together to Casarão. Got there at 11 pm. Tonight weds night was completely different than sat night. It was super crowded. There were maybe 100-150 girls, a very good live band and striptease show every hour. For those who don't know, this club is actually two levels (which I didn't know in my first visit). There is a lower level from the stairs next to the first floor men's bathroom, the lower level is more lounge but almost as large as the first floor. Both levels were packed. A club atmosphere with good music, girls were dancing and drinking, some girls in just a bikini on top and several girls with see thru clothes. Might be too crowded for some and definitely more guys than girls, and of course the average girl rating in much better in Scandallo. But it was fun and I estimate it's half the cost of Scandallo. I didn't even session tonight even though there were some hot girls. I was pretty drained from 3 intense Clínicas sessions during the day and then the 2+ hours with my evening girl. I really envy those you can move here for work or retire with so many different avenues to meet girls.
SamaRiding
12-09-21, 07:03
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2021/12/doria-diz-que-vai-adotar-passaporte-vacinal-em-sp-em-15-de-dezembro.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw
Governor Joao Doria (PSDB) stated that, if the federal government does not adhere to the vaccination passport by December 15, the document will be required throughout Sao Paulo as from that date.
According to the governor, the document will be required for anyone entering the state by any means, whether through airports, ports or road.
"Brazil cannot become a tourist paradise for deniers. The denial of this country only exists in the minds of this minister (of Health, Marcelo Queiroga) and the president. If by December 15 the federal government does not adopt the passport, Sao Paulo will adopt", said Doria.People is SP still take COVID seriously. I believe the case numbers are now pretty low and high rates of vaccinations. Most people still wear masks outdoors and definitely inside buildings. And more vaccination requirements in clubs and other venues.
I really envy those you can move here for work or retire with so many different avenues to meet girls.I won't be moving to Brazil, but once retirement gets here, I will have 100% flexibility that I don't have now, and will be taking plenty trips as I will be free to go down there whenever I want to. Believe this.
Axel Heyst
12-09-21, 14:52
People is SP still take COVID seriously. I believe the case numbers are now pretty low and high rates of vaccinations. Most people still wear masks outdoors and definitely inside buildings. And more vaccination requirements in clubs and other venues.Nobody wears a mask in the Boates except the staff. It is also interesting to see who wears and who does not wear a mask on swanky Jardim streets like are. Oscar Freire. My observations were that it was mostly affluent young men and poor homeless people who walked around mask less. Out on the street I wore my mask below my chin most of the time and nobody bothered me.
P.S. One night with the windows open, I wore my mask below my chin on an Uber ride to Scandallo. The next morning I received a text message from Uber warning me that if I violated their mask rule one more time my account "might" be cancelled. I wore my mask properly on all subsequent Uber rides. Ha Ha.
P.S. S. Some hotels, restaurants, and shopping malls require a temperature check before entry. Get vaxed before you go to Brazil.
Axel Heyst
12-09-21, 14:55
I won't be moving to Brazil, but once retirement gets here, I will have 100% flexibility that I don't have now, and will be taking plenty trips as I will be free to go down there whenever I want to. Believe this.Yeah, I don't know about retiring and living in Brazil full time, but lengthy stays and visiting the country several times a year sounds pretty good to me.
SamaRiding
12-10-21, 00:56
Just got to Scandallo early before 9 pm. No vaccination check. It seems Scandallo has never followed COVID regulations throughout pandemic. I guess that they have deep pockets to generously gift to the police.
Brazil's Supreme Court to require vaccinations to enter the country. Smart move!!
https://flip.it/lPuDsV
Brazil's Supreme Court to require vaccinations to enter the country. Smart move!!
https://flip.it/lPuDsVThe decision takes effect from the moment the bodies involved are notified, which should happen on Monday (13).
The minister (the judge) will ask that the decision be sent to a referendum in an extraordinary session of the Court's Virtual Plenary.
Brazil's Supreme Court to require vaccinations to enter the country. Smart move!!
https://flip.it/lPuDsVRidiculous, Brazil already demanded a PCR or Antigen-test which are far more reliable. I won't go back to a country with such blatant corruption and fact resistance.
Ridiculous, Brazil already demanded a PCR or Antigen-test which are far more reliable. I won't go back to a country with such blatant corruption and fact resistance.Pretty sure they could care less if you choose not to visit.
Vagabundo1
12-12-21, 14:00
You are right.
I am joining a monastery in Rome in protest.
Ridiculous, Brazil already demanded a PCR or Antigen-test which are far more reliable. I won't go back to a country with such blatant corruption and fact resistance.
Axel Heyst
12-12-21, 14:57
Ridiculous, Brazil already demanded a PCR or Antigen-test which are far more reliable. I won't go back to a country with such blatant corruption and fact resistance.Moving into 2022 your international travel options are going to become very limited because most if not all countries are going to require proof of vaccine for entry. Welcome to the new world order.
Polyamorist
12-15-21, 18:11
Ridiculous, Brazil already demanded a PCR or Antigen-test which are far more reliable. I won't go back to a country with such blatant corruption and fact resistance.Salaam ShooBree. You are correct. Unlike other countries, Brazil has largely overcome its Covid problem: just check the statistics. Despite what the pharma shills online and in government (Doria) may say, Brazil is absolutely the last country that should be talking about restricting people's liberties via vaccine mandates and the like.
Salaam ShooBree. You are correct. Unlike other countries, Brazil has largely overcome its Covid problem: just check the statistics. Despite what the pharma shills online and in government (Doria) may say, Brazil is absolutely the last country that should be talking about restricting people's liberties via vaccine mandates and the like.That's because so many of them got sick (and many died), including the COVID denier Bolsonaro himself. Another approach towards herd immunity (shrugs).
Any unvaxxed traveled to Brazil this week? Have they been strictly enforcing the quarantine?
Any unvaxxed traveled to Brazil this week? Have they been strictly enforcing the quarantine?You don't need to quarantine, but you need to show a proof of vaccination.
"Airlines are already requiring travelers to present proof of vaccination against Covid when they board to Brazil".
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2021/12/passaporte-da-vacina-passa-a-ser-cobrado-por-companhias-aereas-no-embarque.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw
Brazil's Supreme Court to require vaccinations to enter the country. Smart move!!
https://flip.it/lPuDsVKinda useless, people know how to fake it.
People is SP still take COVID seriously. I believe the case numbers are now pretty low and high rates of vaccinations. Most people still wear masks outdoors and definitely inside buildings. And more vaccination requirements in clubs and other venues.He got CoronaVac for everyone is SP which is useless now against Omicron. https://www.ft.com/content/afc1eecc-8b3d-4b98-8b65-3520862fb5da.
My main goal is to get a Woman for short trips to Buzios or other nice places with a non pro. My experience is that a GP is nice and fun for max. A pernoite then they mostly have their schedule and are not into short pretended relationships.
Well I don't know if I don't try right.Workers in BR typically take 1 month off a year as their vacation. I've gone on trips with pros for free so girls on SA makes no difference to me.
If you pay them are they still non pros?
Anyone heading to Scandallo this week or next? Looking to meet up.
EverythingBlue
12-17-21, 02:13
Any updates on Scandallo or other field comments from boots on the ground? I'm curious if there's a current Santa rally for girls to make money prior to next week's holiday, those expensive gifts won't be paid on their own. Help the local ladies with your American dollars gentlemen, LOL.
SamaRiding
12-17-21, 02:47
Any updates on Scandallo or other field comments from boots on the ground? I'm curious if there's a current Santa rally for girls to make money prior to next week's holiday, those expensive gifts won't be paid on their own. Help the local ladies with your American dollars gentlemen, LOL.I was in Scandallo last Thurs and there weren't more girls than before. It was a live band night. I thought there more girls on my last visit in Sept. Don't get me wrong, still amazing numbers of hot girls. Guys should also check out the other boates like Casarao if they are in town for more a few days. Last week, I went to Scandallo once compared to 4 times to Casarao. So you can figure out my preferred boate.
Penetrador
12-17-21, 12:56
Moving into 2022 your international travel options are going to become very limited because most if not all countries are going to require proof of vaccine for entry. Welcome to the new world order.If you are smart you will not take any Vaccines the machine tells you to get under no circumstances.
If you are smart you will not take any Vaccines the machine tells you to get under no circumstances.WTF?
Please explain yourself. It does no good to make a statement like this and not provide an explanation.
Workers in BR typically take 1 month off a year as their vacation. I've gone on trips with pros for free so girls on SA makes no difference to me.
If you pay them are they still non pros?Well with non Pros I mean girls who don't get fucked 5 times a day by 5 different dicks and are expected to show up at any given boate, therma, clinica. Of course they are still hookers even they are not on the market every day.
But I see your point and I am actually little bit underwhelmed by the looks I see on SA in SP. So looks like I will stick to my putas from twitter and the usual monger places.
I will let you guys know how it went.
DreamCarnarvon
12-18-21, 16:24
Just want to pass this information along to anyone who is interested. I recently received a whatsapp message from a new clinica called Unique SPA. Their grand opening day will be 12/20 at 1 pm. I didn't receive any info regarding price and I have no idea if this is one of those joints that only offers "massage + HJ" or provides FS. I will message them and see if I can get more info. I'm not in town at the moment so unfortunately I will not be able to go check them out myself.
Their address is Rua Miranda Guerra, 1052. They are literally 100 m from Clinica Brooklin (the new location). The nearest metro stations are Brooklin and Borbo Gato. From Moema its about 5.5 km Uber ride away.
SamaRiding
12-18-21, 19:04
Just want to pass this information along to anyone who is interested. I recently received a whatsapp message from a new clinica called Unique SPA. Their grand opening day will be 12/20 at 1 pm. I didn't receive any info regarding price and I have no idea if this is one of those joints that only offers "massage + HJ" or provides FS. I will message them and see if I can get more info. I'm not in town at the moment so unfortunately I will not be able to go check them out myself.
Their address is Rua Miranda Guerra, 1052. They are literally 100 m from Clinica Brooklin (the new location). The nearest metro stations are Brooklin and Borbo Gato. From Moema its about 5.5 km Uber ride away.MOA spa. The Indy Clinica people also took over the Kamna spa building in meoma last month. Full sex, no massage pretense. 200 r for one hour. Some of Indy girls sometimes go over. The building also recently renovated but the rooms are small.
Av. Moaci, 885 - Planalto Paulista, São Paulo. SP, 04083-002, Brazil.
DreamCarnarvon
12-18-21, 22:14
MOA spa. The Indy Clinica people also took over the Kamna spa building in meoma last month. Full sex, no massage pretense. 200 r for one hour. Some of Indy girls sometimes go over. The building also recently renovated but the rooms are small..Always a great thing whenever a new clinica opens up. Clinica Indy is one of my favorite clinicas. The owner, Amanda and the male manager there are competent and runs a tight ship. Having a competent and even a likable manager (s) really makes a lot of difference. Some of clinicas on the bottom of my list are there because of their management issues (ie lack of service, dropping the ball on pre-appointments, being too pushy) and not because of their lineups. Although not always the case, I do believe having a good manager = good lineup.
Needless to say I will be looking forward to visiting Spa Moah on my upcoming trip. Extra kudos for being located in Moema.
It is official. Must show vaccination proof or quarantine for 5 days.
http://losangeles.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/covid-19_%7C_travel_restrictions_to_brazil.xml
Wonder how they are going to handle the quarantine and follow up.
It is official. Must show vaccination proof or quarantine for 5 days.
http://losangeles.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/covid-19_%7C_travel_restrictions_to_brazil.xml
Wonder how they are going to handle the quarantine and follow up.I think this is the government's old ordinance, officially published December 8th, before judge Barroso intervened and said that it is not enough and everybody has to show proof of vaccination. Correct me if I'm wrong. That is how I understand it.
DreamCarnarvon
12-19-21, 00:19
It is official. Must show vaccination proof or quarantine for 5 days.
http://losangeles.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/covid-19_%7C_travel_restrictions_to_brazil.xml
Wonder how they are going to handle the quarantine and follow up.Typical bureaucratic bullcrap. What's the point of implementing the vaccination proof when you have a blatant loophole that people can use to get around it? People can just enter without vaccination and "quarantine" themselves. They can't be that naive and think that these people who refused vaccination in the first place are all going to follow any rules after the fact that they got in. The equivalent would be giving the girl the money before the session and expecting the girl to perform everything that was requested of her. Once in a while, you might get lucky and get a honest girl. But the majority of time, she will take the money and run as fast as she can.
This is really a bad look on the part of the Brazilian government, especially the supreme court. They overruled the initial quarantine proposal saying that it will be impossible to implement the quarantines and follow ups effectively. So now how is this new requirement any different? Only in wording I suppose, "You can enter with or without vaccination but if just in case you happen to have your vaccination proof in hand, we are happy to take a look."
I'm not against people who are against vaccination and this doesn't affect me since I'm already fully vaccinated. But please Brazil stop the fake trying and make up you mind.
DreamCarnarvon
12-19-21, 00:22
I think this is the government's old ordinance, officially published December 8th, before judge Barroso intervened and said that it is not enough and everybody has to show proof of vaccination. Correct me if I'm wrong. That is how I understand it.I think this is the new ordinance Nordico. Look at the document 2: proof of vaccination against COVID-19 part, its dated December 18th, 2021.
I am reading some pages back out of interest and to conduct research properly, but in the meantime I have about 3 questions.
If a respected and knowledgeable Local like Rovnak could answer that would be great; anyone who knows anything knows far better than I do though, so all input is welcome.
1) Is there a way to get Brazilian citizenship or something similar, without speaking much / any Portuguese?
2) What are property prices like in a completely quiet area, which is still reasonably close to Sao Paulo (if there is any such area?
3) Around what proportion / percentage of the working girls would you say are STI-free, sterilized / on contraception, and up for BBFS (CIP)?
I think this is the new ordinance Nordico. Look at the document 2: proof of vaccination against COVID-19 part, its dated December 18th, 2021.December 18th is the date when they planned to start implementing the ordinance. The date of the ordinance is December 8th.
Typical bureaucratic bullcrap. What's the point of implementing the vaccination proof when you have a blatant loophole that people can use to get around it? People can just enter without vaccination and "quarantine" themselves. They can't be that naive and think that these people who refused vaccination in the first place are all going to follow any rules after the fact that they got in.Agreed and the Brazilian government couldn't care less if it is enforced or not. They gave the ordinance to protect themselves. Anvisa said that to protect the Brazilian people against covid, the government has to do this and that and for the fear that Bolsonaro would face serious charges for not doing his duty, they gave the ordinance. This is when the judge Barroso intervened to avoid that unvaccinated people would come to Brazil and maybe stay in 5 days quarantine.
(It's common that the airlines are responsible for checking all the documents needed to travel to an other country. If a passenger on his way to the United States throws his passport to the airplane's toilet and on arrival seeks asylum, the airline pays tens of thousands of dollars in fines and other expenses).
I think this is the government's old ordinance, officially published December 8th, before judge Barroso intervened and said that it is not enough and everybody has to show proof of vaccination. Correct me if I'm wrong. That is how I understand it.Looking at the airlines page for what is required before travel on Sherpa. Con:
Unvaccinated travelers are allowed in if they cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons and / or humanitarian reasons or travelers from counties where there are no vaccines available.
They must quarantine for 5 days at place of residence. I doubt anyone will enforce this. I really don't know how they would enforce the conditions above. Since I am full vaccinated and boosted, I could care less.
One odd thing — ANVISA doesn't recognize the Moderna vaccine but it recognizes all the vaccines approved by WHO which includes Moderna.
Typical Brazilian confusion.
Axel Heyst
12-19-21, 22:35
One odd thing ANVISA doesn't recognize the Moderna vaccine but it recognizes all the vaccines approved by WHO which includes Moderna.
Typical Brazilian confusion.Anaggie, I just filled out an Anvisa declaration and the Moderna vaccine is most definitely included on the list of accepted vaccines. After selecting the Moderna, the next question was how many times (2 or 3) followed up with, what was the date of my last shot.
A. H.
Nebulousity
12-21-21, 00:26
From a quick Whatsapp poll of some of the Clinicas (Abbobora, Carinas, Enjoy, Brooklin, Miruna, Indy) it appears they will be open on Monday / Tuesday / Wednesday / Thursday of next week (December 27 - 30), but closed this weekend and the following weekend inclusive of Friday.
From a quick Whatsapp poll of some of the Clinicas (Abbobora, Carinas, Enjoy, Brooklin, Miruna, Indy) it appears they will be open on Monday / Tuesday / Wednesday / Thursday of next week (December 27 - 30), but closed this weekend and the following weekend inclusive of Friday.But how many garotas will have the booty on duty? That's the operative question. It won't be a "horny of plenty".
Nebulousity
12-21-21, 02:48
But how many garotas will have the booty on duty? That's the operative question. It won't be a "horny of plenty".You make a reasonable point indeed Mr. Cane. Duly noted.
Looking at the airlines page for what is required before travel on Sherpa. Con:
Unvaccinated travelers are allowed in if they cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons and / or humanitarian reasons or travelers from counties where there are no vaccines available.
They must quarantine for 5 days at place of residence. I doubt anyone will enforce this. I really don't know how they would enforce the conditions above. Since I am full vaccinated and boosted, I could care less.
One odd thing ANVISA doesn't recognize the Moderna vaccine but it recognizes all the vaccines approved by WHO which includes Moderna.
Typical Brazilian confusion.It's official now and in most part as you wrote in your post:
"The federal government published, this Monday (20), an ordinance that requires the presentation of proof of vaccination against Covid for travelers to enter the country".
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2021/12/governo-atende-stf-e-publica-portaria-para-exigir-passaporte-da-vacina-contra-covid.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw.
"According to the ordinance, those arriving in the country by air must present to the airline responsible for the flight, before boarding, a printed or electronic proof of vaccination.
Vaccinations approved by Anvisa (National Health Surveillance Agency) or by the WHO (World Health Organization) or by the authorities of the country where the traveler was vaccinated will be accepted".
Like you I'm fully vaccinated and the booster shot scheduled.
DreamCarnarvon
12-21-21, 16:58
Just want to pass this information along to anyone who is interested. I recently received a whatsapp message from a new clinica called Unique SPA. Their grand opening day will be 12/20 at 1 pm. I didn't receive any info regarding price and I have no idea if this is one of those joints that only offers "massage + HJ" or provides FS. I will message them and see if I can get more info. I'm not in town at the moment so unfortunately I will not be able to go check them out myself.
Their address is Rua Miranda Guerra, 1052. They are literally 100 m from Clinica Brooklin (the new location). The nearest metro stations are Brooklin and Borbo Gato. From Moema its about 5.5 km Uber ride away.There is already a topic on this clinica on gpguia. Apparently, Moises (who used to work at Clinica Kin) is the owner of the place. I never had a chance to talk to him but he's a good guys, greets every client and works hard. Definitely will be one of first places I will visit.
Prices are in line with other clinicas. 1/2 hour are $130,1 hour are $170.
SamaRiding
12-22-21, 00:20
From a quick Whatsapp poll of some of the Clinicas (Abbobora, Carinas, Enjoy, Brooklin, Miruna, Indy) it appears they will be open on Monday / Tuesday / Wednesday / Thursday of next week (December 27 - 30), but closed this weekend and the following weekend inclusive of Friday.In addition. I received some clinica messages that from Dec. 31 to Jan 4, they will be closed. Back to normal on Jan 5. So better to check before you go.
Does Drogasil really do rapid test panel that covers multiple STDs? I see only syphilis on their website using google translate.
Can someone give recommendation on where else to go?
Does Drogasil really do rapid test panel that covers multiple STDs? I see only syphilis on their website using google translate.
Can someone give recommendation on where else to go?You can go to ask the pharmacist on duty. They will tell you.
Or look up Delboni on Google map. It's a testing lab.
IndecentPro
12-22-21, 06:44
I just returned from a trip to Brazil. The majority of my time was spent in Sao Paulo and Rio. I also spent some time in some smaller cities but did not monger.
Apologies in advance for typos as I will type this from my phone.
Arrival / Customs.
I arrived at GRU terminal 3 in the early morning hours. I was one of only a few foreigners so customs was very quick for me. At that time, only a negative antigen test was required within 24 hours of boarding. I think with omicron this has changed but I haven't been closely following the news. I had to fill out the traveler declaration form prior to arrival as well but it was fairly straightforward.
The downside to no customs line was that I had a long wait at baggage claim.
The airport had WIFI access that you can use to order an Uber. There is an uber pickup point a few lanes over from where you can exit the terminal so it is fairly convenient and well marked. The uber cost was 85 reals or about $15 to Ibirapuera Mall in Moema. Takes over an hour so pretty good value to avoid the subway train and bus with all your luggage.
Phone / Cash.
As I was there for a longer period of time, I decided to get a local sim card and data plan. On the second floor (which might be the floor you enter the mall) there is a Claro that will sell you a sim card and data plan. There is another claro that has postpaid plans for local residents on the 5th (floor but unless you are moving to Brazil, you won't have any use there. Sim Card and data plan was ridiculously cheap. Can't remember the precise numbers but whatsapp was unlimited as well and unless you are streaming on your phone, you will probably not run out for a month.
In Ibirapuera mall, there is also a currency exchange location on the 5th or 6th floor. I got within 1% of the spot rate on multiple days so I generally used that. I found that ATMs gave me a worse rate. I carried about 5 K USD into the country (and did not declare) so I don't know the process. You need to provide your passport at the currency exchange.
Hotel check-in.
I stayed in a few different parts of SP. Moema / Indianapolis / Centro and I definitely recommend Moema. Process is fairly standard, the hotels will need your passport or ID to check in. No different than any other location tbh.
Clinicas.
I mongered at the clinicas more than any other option. In my opinion the nicer clinicas in SP are better than the 4 x4 or other options in Rio but I know that might be controversial.
Prime.
Located 2 minutes from the mall. I sessioned here twice. Once with Ericka and once with Lorena. Ericka has had a baby before. I saw stretch marks on her stomach. Provided decent to good BJ and covered FS. Cost was 190 for half hour. Only finished once with her.
Lorena is a tall thin blonde with perky tits. I really enjoyed my time with her. BJ then covered sex finish, then a massage, then a BJ finish in her mouth. Damage was 250 plus 50 real tip that I gave her in the room.
Side note: The madam is loud and boisterous but friendly. After your first visit, they will add you on whatsapp and then you will be able to see who is working that day.
Alvorada Spa.
This is about a 15 minute (safe) walk from Prime. And the hours that these places are open are safe to walk in this area. I don't know about walking around here at 2 am but just be smart about your own safety.
I sessioned a total of 3 times here with 2 girls.
Suzy: provided a decent massage and then finished with a BJ. I wanted FS but she said she was doing some vaginal treatment so that basically destroyed any desire for FS.
Mary: Almost two identical sessions. BJ / Sex and finish first then light massage then BJ for completion in the second round while she sucked on my balls. House take of 250 in cash and 200 for Mary each day. Repeat? Already did LOL.
You can get added on whatsapp before you go here so if you want to see what Mary and Suzy look like, you can do that.
BTW my type is petite brunettes so most of these girls will be that type.
I'll upload part 2 in a few days with a few more clinicas, an online girl and my limited experience in Scandallo / Bomboa.
DreamCarnarvon
12-22-21, 17:55
Does Drogasil really do rapid test panel that covers multiple STDs? I see only syphilis on their website using google translate.
Can someone give recommendation on where else to go?You can also go to Centro de Referencia e Treinamento DST / AIDS located at Rua Santa Cruz, 81. They have on site doctors and offer various STD tests. You can just walk-in, no appointments needed. This service is free.
IndecentPro nice report so far! Where does one get the Traveler Declaration Form? Is that the form they typically hand out on the plane shortly before landing?
Jimmy Boy 99
12-22-21, 20:45
Snip.
Alvorada Spa.
This is about a 15 minute (safe) walk from Prime. And the hours that these places are open are safe to walk in this area. I don't know about walking around here at 2 am but just be smart about your own safety.
I sessioned a total of 3 times here with 2 girls.
Suzy: provided a decent massage and then finished with a BJ. I wanted FS but she said she was doing some vaginal treatment so that basically destroyed any desire for FS.
Mary: Almost two identical sessions. BJ / Sex and finish first then light massage then BJ for completion in the second round while she sucked on my balls. House take of 250 in cash and 200 for Mary each day. Repeat? Already did LOL. Snip.There are 4 clinicas and 57 Friends House within a half mile of Prime in Moema that charge 100 to 200 real less for an hour program. What was it about Alvorada spa that you choose to walk a mile and a half and pay much more to go there?
IndecentPro nice report so far! Where does one get the Traveler Declaration Form? Is that the form they typically hand out on the plane shortly before landing?I know you are not asking me. I did it online and got a confirmation email to show to the airline during check-in.
I know you are not asking me. I did it online and got a confirmation email to show to the airline during check-in.I did some research online and found the following information:
https://www.onlinevisa.com/travelers-health-declaration-form-brazil/
It says the form must be completed within 72 hours of departure. Once you did everything online, how long did it take you to get the confirmation email?
IndecentPro nice report so far! Where does one get the Traveler Declaration Form? Is that the form they typically hand out on the plane shortly before landing?I think you are talking about the travel heath declaration form.
Here is some info on that:
Travelers need to present to the airline responsible for the flight (before boarding) the proof (printed or electronic) of filling out the Traveler's Health Declaration. DSV, within a maximum of 24 hours prior to boarding to the Federative Republic of Brazil, with the agreement on the sanitary measures that must be complied with during the period in which they are in the country.
I know you are not asking me. I did it online and got a confirmation email to show to the airline during check-in.This is the address https://formulario.anvisa.gov.br/?lang=en.
IndecentPro
12-22-21, 22:52
Personal preference I guess. I definitely think that there are levels.
Not to open up the clinica versus boate debate, but I think even the most loyal clinica customer will admit that the talent level at Scandallo is higher than the average clinica girl. That is not to say anything about value which is a function of price as well. I find the higher end clinicas to have prettier girls in my opinion which only a slight step up in cost is worth it for me.
I have Enjoy, Tangara, 57, Indy, Miruna, etc. On whatsapp and I can see their statuses. I consider those to be low to mid tier clinicas.
For me, the higher end clinicas (300- 450 per hours) are in the sweet spot for value. I find the the girls are more aligned to my standards of beauty and the places are cleaner which is a big plus in my book.
To each their own. BTW this is not an invitation to tell me that all girls across clinicas and boates are equal LOL. Don't start that debate.
There are 4 clinicas and 57 Friends House within a half mile of Prime in Moema that charge 100 to 200 real less for an hour program. What was it about Alvorada spa that you choose to walk a mile and a half and pay much more to go there?
SamaRiding
12-23-21, 00:52
Personal preference I guess. I definitely think that there are levels.
I find the higher end clinicas to have prettier girls in my opinion which only a slight step up in cost is worth it for me.
I have Enjoy, Tangara, 57, Indy, Miruna, etc. On whatsapp and I can see their statuses. I consider those to be low to mid tier clinicas.
For me, the higher end clinicas (300- 450 per hours) are in the sweet spot for value. I find the the girls are more aligned to my standards of beauty and the places are cleaner which is a big plus. Curious. Which higher end clinicas do you like? I am open to trying other clinicas especially if the average hotness of girls is higher and with equal great service. I don't mind paying a little more for that. I tried Sharon massage which is 500 r for the hour. Girls are prettier but I didn't like it was a massage place with a happy / happier ending. These massages tend to be not good and the sex also quick and sub par.
... Once you did everything online, how long did it take you to get the confirmation email?I don't remember but I think it was pretty quick.
IndecentPro
12-23-21, 02:02
Yes. I think it may have been immediate after completing the declaration form.
Everything goes fairly smooth if you follow the rules tbh. I am fully vaxxed and I got the antigen test within the time stated before departure and then PCR on the way back home.
We have to remember that for most of us, we are not Brazilians and don't have the right of guaranteed entry to the country. Seems a bit strange for those of us from the 'developed world' because usually nobody tries to illegally immigrate down the development chain. So in general we have not experienced customs or immigration problems (because which American or Canadian in their right mind would illegally immigrate to a developing country).
But Brazil has their rules and they're not too onerous in my opinion. If you don't like it, don't go.
I don't remember but I think it was pretty quick.
I have been reading this forum for a very long time now. Most comments are very helpful and accurate. I will try to add a little from my experience. If you have any questions. Just ask away!
To get to Brazil.
-Vaccinated.
-Health Declaration.
-negative test.
-Passport.
To get back to the US. Everything above and I had to pay 350 reais at the airport to get the PCR test. Did anyone find anything cheaper? 350 is absurd in my opinion compared to the price in the US.
I never really looked forward into visiting Scandallo until reading so much about it on this forum so I decided to check it out. Even though I speak fluent in Portuguese and have a lot of experience in negotiating the price, I was just here to check it out and enjoy the environment and never sessioned with anyone here. I visited almost every single day to enjoy the food the restaurant the drinks the music and the general environment. Everyone's posts about this Club is spot on. Most main points about Scandallo has been covered here and my experience isn't anything new so there are not so much to add. It is a Higher class compared to the other places and girls are a level above the rest even though there are some who attends other places too.
It costs about 200 reais to get in and everything can we use two ordered drinks and food if you get there before 7 PM. You can pay when you leave and then return later without having to pay the entrance fee again.
In general I would say the majority is beautiful but there are still a great amount who are 6/10.100% dress very well. The girls are usually from other cities / states who came here to work. I'm not sure if I even met any one who is from the city of São Paulo. They do this because they want to be discreet. Same thing with the clients. A lot are married therefore being discreet is very important that is why on the weekends it has less people compared to during the week.
One girl who I talked with recognized that I am not Brazilian and a foreigner because of my accent when I speak Portuguese. This triggered her to jacking up the price to 2500 reais per night which I respectfully declined by saying "Ill think about it and get back to you later" then ran far far away. That's equal to like 7 PCR tests at the airport. The ones who have been working there for a very long time, are beautiful, and ones that speak English tend to charge higher prices because they know they can get away with it with the gringos. Please do not offer anything at this level or even close to it because its just going to make the prices sky rocket like the housing market prices in the US right now.
To be continued.
IndecentPro
12-24-21, 04:23
To get back to the US. Everything above and I had to pay 350 reais at the airport to get the PCR test. Did anyone find anything cheaper? 350 is absurd in my opinion compared to the price in the US.Labi Exames charged me 228 reals I believe. So about 35% cheaper than airport. I think you can get them for 200 at some spots but the effort wasn't worth it to me to do that research. I don't think you will find it much cheaper than that anywhere. At least not until mass production in a few years.
There is a location in Republica area (and others across the country). They give you a username and password and upload the results on a website the following day at 18 h (6 pm). So if you get tested on Wednesday at 10 am, you can get your results on Thursday at 6 pm. They are not open Sunday and I think limited hours (or only results?) on Saturday so plan accordingly for your return flight.
BTW PCR definitely worse experience relative to Antigen.
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