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SamaRiding
01-25-22, 06:01
Been here with four different providers. See Melina if you can, she's enthusiastic and is very tight.Sounds great. I'll definitely check it out. Are the photos pretty close to the girls' looks? What format was the sessions? Was it half massage and then sex. Or can you just skip the massage and do all sex. Thanks for info.
Thanks for the report! I was at Scandallo on Sat Nov 27th too, I arrived since early to finish watching the Brazilian soccer game. I stayed until past midnight, but stroke out this night, I thought the talent was low compared to other days, I'm glad you found your girl!
Coincidently, I also got sick with diarrhea on this trip too, and lasted about 2-3 days, what are the odds? It really got me weak and caused me to waste a day or two as well.
It seems you also got a fair share of BBFS, I thought Scandallo girls are pretty open to it. Prices seem around 1200-1500 pernoite, it's what I was quoted as well pretty consistently. Some of the girls do try to work with you for future visits, although others try to keep their high price.
That is one hell of a way to end your trip, I don't think I would've been this bold to go out with a dupla, but now you've given me an idea!You could be right about Nov 27th. I went there so many times that I could be mistaking for another day but the place was really rocking at times as compared to my previous trip in September. But the cool thing is that there is usually someone very doable whenever I visited.
Incredible report, thanks so much for sharing! Definitely keeping those rates in mind as I primarily plan on sticking to Scandallo and per noite with girls I happen to click with when I eventually get around to booking a trip as well. I'm curious about how you handled the cash situation? Was there a particular bank you just retrieved cash daily that accepted foreign cards? Or was there an ATM at Scandallo you used to pay girls? Also did you experience any problems with the Uber app? I've never used app outside the US so I'm not sure if there would be problems. Would hate to arrive after a long trip just to find myself stranded at the airport because the app doesn't want to function properly in a different country.Besides keeping about 1-2 K USD in reserve for emergency I usually use some combination of ATM and any excess USD to convert into Real. I use credit card for paying everything else but have never put the girl donation on my card.
For Uber I always used Uber black there is little difference with the regular Uber and it works great in SP never had any issue.
Besides keeping about 1-2 K USD in reserve for emergency I usually use some combination of ATM and any excess USD to convert into Real. I use credit card for paying everything else but have never put the girl donation on my card.
For Uber I always used Uber black there is little difference with the regular Uber and it works great in SP never had any issue.And a tip: you should not need to carry your passport to the exchange place. I would have a photo of it and they would provide me a WhatsApp number to send the pic. That was sufficient. And about ATM I never looked in any club would always do it outside usually at Bradesco or Santander banks.
Incredible report, thanks so much for sharing! Definitely keeping those rates in mind as I primarily plan on sticking to Scandallo and per noite with girls I happen to click with when I eventually get around to booking a trip as well. I'm curious about how you handled the cash situation? Was there a particular bank you just retrieved cash daily that accepted foreign cards? Or was there an ATM at Scandallo you used to pay girls? Also did you experience any problems with the Uber app? I've never used app outside the US so I'm not sure if there would be problems. Would hate to arrive after a long trip just to find myself stranded at the airport because the app doesn't want to function properly in a different country.Has all been discussed at length many times before. Please read what's already been written:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2656-Real-vs-Dollar-and-other-currency-issues
DiverOyster
01-26-22, 02:28
I have meaning to try these higher end clinicas myself. And this is the most expensive one I have found. Total price is more than the almost all of the Clubmodel or Mclass escorts and close to Scandallo prices. I am hoping that their photos are not heavily photoshopped and the service is on par with the less expensive clinicas.
Guy, If you have been before let's us know!The Palms (350+350) is slightly more expensive than Lotus Lounge (330+350). They are both in Olimpia. Both are tablet-based so you won't have a chance to review the LU in person for interview. I know of at least one girl who used to work at 57 in mid 2021 now works at the Palms. So I guess you are paying higher prices for the more upscale setting.
... I primarily plan on sticking to Scandallo and per noite with girls I happen to click with ... I'm curious about how you handled the cash situation? ....You can pay everything with credit card at Scandallo. There is no extra fee for credit card charge except there is a fee when you pay the girl by credit card via Scandallo. You can pay the girl with cash when you bring her back to your hotel. Most people recommend Bradesco ATM.
For Uber I always used Uber black there is little difference with the regular Uber and it works great in SP never had any issue.I stopped using Ueber Black after realising Ueber Black was open end regarding the price. I once had an Ueber Black driving the most congested route from Itaim to Zona Leste in order to be able to charge me double at the end. The drive lasted 45 minutes longer than it would in an Ueber X. The scam was pointed out to me by my Brazilian friends.
Dobandun22
01-26-22, 04:27
I stopped using Ueber Black after realising Ueber Black was open end regarding the price. I once had an Ueber Black driving the most congested route from Itaim to Zona Leste in order to be able to charge me double at the end. The drive lasted 45 minutes longer than it would in an Ueber X. The scam was pointed out to me by my Brazilian friends.Couldn't you report this to Uber? They compy my delivery when it's missing items I'm sure they would cut you a deal on someone disobeying GPS and taking a long route.
You can pay everything with credit card at Scandallo. There is no extra fee for credit card charge except there is a fee when you pay the girl by credit card via Scandallo. You can pay the girl with cash when you bring her back to your hotel. Most people recommend Bradesco ATM.There is a 6.5% upcharge credit cards and ask you to pay in Reals or your currency so there's the conversion fee. Don't have these fees at outside restaurants etc.
Also avoid Santander and Banco24 horas ATMs, I tested to see what the fees and they charged 20 R fee and the conversion was 20% lower!
SamaRiding
01-26-22, 08:44
The Palms (350+350) is slightly more expensive than Lotus Lounge (330+350). They are both in Olimpia. Both are tablet-based so you won't have a chance to review the LU in person for interview. I know of at least one girl who used to work at 57 in mid 2021 now works at the Palms. So I guess you are paying higher prices for the more upscale setting.It's the girls that's matters. I don't need a luxury room. If the girls are hotter than the lower end clinicas, then it's worth the extra fee. My plan would get their numbers if they provide good service in the Clinica, and bring them back to my place for longer sessions for cheaper.
57 is odd. On WhatsApp status, I sometimes see a big group of hot girls show up at 57 for a week and then disappear. Also a few nice girls I tried there, also never show up again. There a small group of regular girls that I haven't tried. But it usually pretty quiet there even though it has one of the best amenities of any clinica, good rooms, and charge the same pricing.
Any chance the 57 girl is Blonde mel? I have been wanting to see her again. She has a very pretty face, upper 20's, who does the best sensual Teasing massage I have had. Definitely worth 57 prices.
I stopped using Ueber Black after realising Ueber Black was open end regarding the price. I once had an Ueber Black driving the most congested route from Itaim to Zona Leste in order to be able to charge me double at the end. The drive lasted 45 minutes longer than it would in an Ueber X. The scam was pointed out to me by my Brazilian friends.Maybe it was an exception rather than the rule. Just counted have done about 160 Uber black trips Sept thru Dec last year never a problem at least that's my experience.
SinjinSwift
01-26-22, 19:56
Got into Sampa Tuesday morning and relaxed from my filght, researching where I would go this morning. Decided to check out Lotus Lounge and it didn't disappoint. As most people have already stated, the selection of a girl is tablet based. There were 6 girls on this morning around 11 AM and, frankly, the whole lineup looks terrific. I went with Alfa who is a tall (5'10") skinny beautiful mulata.
She came in and we kissed standing for a while. Great kisser. Then I took a shower. One of my only complaints with Alfa for the entire session was that she was unwilling to do a mutual shower. I did offer.
After my shower she gave me a really fantastic massage. Top quality. However no body slide, which would have been nice. When I turned over she gave BBBJ with amazing eye contact, then covered FS in multiple positions. Very sensual and passionate the whole time. I tried to extend our session, but she was booked already. So tall and slender with a tiny waist. A fantastic experience overall.
BTW, I corresponded with Patti over Whatsapp (you can get the whatsapp contact from their website) and she was super helpful with telling me who was working that day and who would be a good choice. Really a flawless experience from the staff.
SinjinSwift
01-26-22, 20:04
Just an FYI that you only need an antigen test within 24 hours of the first leg of your flight. I ordered my test online through Qured and took the test via video. It was fantastic! And very reasonable. I think I paid $30 or so.
Basically they send you a test and email you a code. You schedule your video appt with that code that they email you. You take the test via video with one of their staff, then photograph the test with your ID and upload it. They then generate a travel certificate for you. It's beautiful.
Basically you only need three things:
-- vaccination proof.
-- COVID test (I recommend antigen, per my comment above).
-- Travel health declaration, basically a form you fill out online from the Brazilian gov't gathering data about your vaccination status, etc.
All these things are super easy. The covid test verbiage can be a little intimidating, as I didn't know if the online antigen test would be accepted. Based on the description for the travel requirements, I thought it would and I was right.
Just an FYI that you only need an antigen test within 24 hours of the first leg of your flight. I ordered my test online through Qured and took the test via video. It was fantastic! And very reasonable. I think I paid $30 or so.
Basically they send you a test and email you a code. You schedule your video appt with that code that they email you. You take the test via video with one of their staff, then photograph the test with your ID and upload it. They then generate a travel certificate for you. It's beautiful.
Basically you only need three things:
-- vaccination proof.
-- COVID test (I recommend antigen, per my comment above).
-- Travel health declaration, basically a form you fill out online from the Brazilian gov't gathering data about your vaccination status, etc..How far in advance of travel do you recommend completing the health declaration form?
There is a 6.5% upcharge credit cards and ask you to pay in Reals or your currency so there's the conversion fee. Don't have these fees at outside restaurants etc...Does this fee show up on the receipt from the club? I always choose Reals and I don't remember seeing it. My credit card does not charge any fee for international charge.
How far in advance of travel do you recommend completing the health declaration form?Pretty sure it must be filled out within 24 hours of boarding.
https://formulario.anvisa.gov.br/?lang=en
How far in advance of travel do you recommend completing the health declaration form?Max 24 hours before departure. https://www.gov.br/anvisa/pt-br/assuntos/paf/coronavirus/viajantes/regras-para-entrada-portaria.
Just an FYI that you only need an antigen test within 24 hours of the first leg of your flight. I ordered my test online through Qured and took the test via video. It was fantastic! And very reasonable. I think I paid $30 or so.
Basically they send you a test and email you a code. You schedule your video appt with that code that they email you. You take the test via video with one of their staff, then photograph the test with your ID and upload it. They then generate a travel certificate for you. It's beautiful.
Basically you only need three things:
-- vaccination proof.
-- COVID test (I recommend antigen, per my comment above).
-- Travel health declaration, basically a form you fill out online from the Brazilian gov't gathering data about your vaccination status, etc.
All these things are super easy. The covid test verbiage can be a little intimidating, as I didn't know if the online antigen test would be accepted. Based on the description for the travel requirements, I thought it would and I was right.This is awesome. I have a qured test scheduled for Monday before my flight to rio. I also have one for the way back. Which airline did you use?
DiverOyster
01-27-22, 03:16
It's the girls that's matters. I don't need a luxury room. If the girls are hotter than the lower end clinicas, then it's worth the extra fee. My plan would get their numbers if they provide good service in the Clinica, and bring them back to my place for longer sessions for cheaper.
57 is odd. On WhatsApp status, I sometimes see a big group of hot girls show up at 57 for a week and then disappear. Also a few nice girls I tried there, also never show up again. There a small group of regular girls that I haven't tried. But it usually pretty quiet there even though it has one of the best amenities of any clinica, good rooms, and charge the same pricing.
Any chance the 57 girl is Blonde mel? I have been wanting to see her again. She has a very pretty face, upper 20's, who does the best sensual Teasing massage I have had. Definitely worth 57 prices.This girl is a pretty blonde. Her trade name at 57 was Karina. Her trade name now at The Palms is Barbie.
When you bring the clinica girls back to your place, what is your usual arrangement?
Gabbarsing
01-27-22, 03:42
This is awesome. I have a qured test scheduled for Monday before my flight to rio. I also have one for the way back. Which airline did you use?Ditto, I also have qured test scheduled for Wednesday for my flight to Rio and also for coming back. I am flying via AA and I know for a fact that they accept it for coming back to USA. More at https://www.aa.com/covid19testing.
Just as a backup I am scheduled at Kaiser to get RT-PCR as well. When do you fly? Love to meet up, I will be in Rio from 5th onwards.
SinjinSwift
01-27-22, 14:23
Ditto, I also have qured test scheduled for Wednesday for my flight to Rio and also for coming back. I am flying via AA and I know for a fact that they accept it for coming back to USA. More at https://www.aa.com/covid19testing.
Just as a backup I am scheduled at Kaiser to get RT-PCR as well. When do you fly? Love to meet up, I will be in Rio from 5th onwards.I flew American Airlines as well. They partner with a company that has an app to collect your info ahead of time. You must upload the info to this app before you can get your boarding pass.
Ditto, I also have qured test scheduled for Wednesday for my flight to Rio and also for coming back. I am flying via AA and I know for a fact that they accept it for coming back to USA. More at https://www.aa.com/covid19testing.
Just as a backup I am scheduled at Kaiser to get RT-PCR as well. When do you fly? Love to meet up, I will be in Rio from 5th onwards.I will be in rio on the 3rd only and will be in Buzios for the weekend. I then fly back to SP on Saturday and back home on Sunday. All my trips to Brazil are for work with a weekend thrown in for fun😜.
All my trips to Brazil are for work with a weekend thrown in for fun.Now that's what you call some work "benefits"!
Gabbarsing
01-27-22, 18:17
I will be in rio on the 3rd only and will be in Buzios for the weekend. I then fly back to SP on Saturday and back home on Sunday. All my trips to Brazil are for work with a weekend thrown in for fun😜.No worries, Just curious, why Buzios? More action there? Or for personal / work related stuff.
Just an FYI that you only need an antigen test within 24 hours of the first leg of your flight. I ordered my test online through Qured and took the test via video. It was fantastic! And very reasonable. I think I paid $30 or so.
Basically they send you a test and email you a code. You schedule your video appt with that code that they email you. You take the test via video with one of their staff, then photograph the test with your ID and upload it. They then generate a travel certificate for you. It's beautiful.
Basically you only need three things:
-- vaccination proof.
-- COVID test (I recommend antigen, per my comment above).
-- Travel health declaration, basically a form you fill out online from the Brazilian gov't gathering data about your vaccination status, etc.
All these things are super easy. The covid test verbiage can be a little intimidating, as I didn't know if the online antigen test would be accepted. Based on the description for the travel requirements, I thought it would and I was right.Have it ready when getting off the plane, the lane ushers wants to see it before letting you get in the immigration line.
I flew American Airlines as well. They partner with a company that has an app to collect your info ahead of time. You must upload the info to this app before you can get your boarding pass.Flew Copa to BR twice, the line usher takes pictures of your docs with what seems like their private phones so they can send it to their office. Seems like a privacy issue holding this information on their private phones. Took 20 minutes to check in with the agent, while with American carriers took me 2 minutes.
Does this fee show up on the receipt from the club? I always choose Reals and I don't remember seeing it. My credit card does not charge any fee for international charge.The receipt just shows the total charge. Before it asks you real or usd it asks to confirm the 6.5% conversion fee and does not show you the exact conversion rate. If using an ATM card, it has no fees.
Credit cards always say no international fees but the fine print tells you how they convert currencies and usually they take the lowest rate of the day but some use some cards use other exchange rate calculations which in effect is a fee.
I will be in rio on the 3rd only and will be in Buzios for the weekend ...
No doubt you'll, enjoy Buzios. It's a really beautiful and exceptional place to spend a weekend (albeit a bit pricey).
It would be nice and very appreciative w/r to brief update on Buzios, should you have the energy and indulgence to do so (If not, also no worries).
No worries, Just curious, why Buzios? More action there? Or for personal / work related stuff.
It is a beach resort town, known for it's European Mediterranean like beach town vibe, frequented by and known (at least in the past) as "the playground for the rich and uber rich Brazilians". It is located about 3 hours away from Rio.
It is a non-mongering destination (better to bring the "weekend-wife"), but P4P-action can be found using your 'go to fav' online sources like Tinder or Photo Acompanhantes (Buzios): https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/buzios
Basically lots of beach, boating, water sports, biking, hiking and other outdoor type activities are available during the day (if that's your thing). The evenings and nights can be characterized (somewhat) as a romantic stroll through historical cobble stone streets, filled with chic shopping, fashion, ice-cream/acai parlors, bars and culinary cuisines at restaurants that cater to most tastes (vegetarian included). And enough pizza parlors to satisfy simpler tastes.
Good place to interact with various peoples from many nationalities.
https://www.buziosonline.com.br/home/english/index.cfm
No worries, Just curious, why Buzios? More action there? Or for personal / work related stuff.I am spending a weekend with the girl I was with last time I was in SP. Never done this type of thing so I am going to try it out and see how we do together in a different place.
No doubt you'll, enjoy Buzios. It's a really beautiful and exceptional place to spend a weekend (albeit a bit pricey).
It would be nice and very appreciative w/r to brief update on Buzios, should you have the energy and indulgence to do so (If not, also no worries).
Was planning on it. Where should I post it?
SamaRiding
01-28-22, 01:02
This girl is a pretty blonde. Her trade name at 57 was Karina. Her trade name now at The Palms is Barbie.
When you bring the clinica girls back to your place, what is your usual arrangement?For the lower end Clinica girls, I have offering 400 r for 2 hours at my place. This is more than their hourly take in the CLínica to entice the girls to come. You can probably offer less as every girl I have offer this to have taken it without counter offer. Well, one girl ask me to pay for Uber. I am very picky and offer to take home girls who are very high on my ratings. I can penny pince but why bother. The girls are happy to get the money and almost all offer more GFE than I experienced with them in the clinicas.
Was planning on it. Where should I post it?Thanks! That would be great, as I haven't been back in years and would love to know what your brief general take is on things.
Personally, the "Other Areas" thread is pretty good place and then links in the SP or RJ threads, if you need to have tangential references w/r to the queries that my pop up in those threads.
Just MHO, but its up to you. :)
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-reports-record-high-224567-cases-coronavirus-2022-01-26/
Gabbarsing
01-28-22, 18:14
Should I always ask for ID from girl or take her ID's pic from my phone if I invite her to my hotel? (for security and safety reason?
Gabbarsing
01-28-22, 18:36
Which hotel is good that is friendly for me to bring girls in for pernoite. And of course safety of my belongings inside the room is my TOP priority.
Which hotel is good that is friendly for me to bring girls in for pernoite. And of course safety of my belongings inside the room is my TOP priority.São Paulo is the forth largest city in the world. There are 1354 hotels in São Paulo. Is it Ok if we post the complete list of GF here?
Which hotel is good that is friendly for me to bring girls in for pernoite. And of course safety of my belongings inside the room is my TOP priority.Do you status with any hotel chains? If so, pick one of those. If you don't, then I would recommend reading a few pages back and there are some discussion of the hotels. I personally always stay at the Renaissance. It is in a very nice area and is super safe plus extremely GF and also has some WG at the bar downstairs in the evenings.
Which hotel is good that is friendly for me to bring girls in for pernoite. And of course safety of my belongings inside the room is my TOP priority.All the hotels are fine in SP. You just have to decide how much you are willing to pay and in which area you want to stay.
Gabbarsing
01-29-22, 01:06
OK let me be specific with my question. Anyone has experienced into Grand Mercure Sao Paulo Ibirapuera hotel.
Safety and GF is my top priority.
Gabbarsing
01-29-22, 01:07
Do you status with any hotel chains? If so, pick one of those. If you don't, then I would recommend reading a few pages back and there are some discussion of the hotels. I personally always stay at the Renaissance. It is in a very nice area and is super safe plus extremely GF and also has some WG at the bar downstairs in the evenings.Sweet, thank you!
I am spending a weekend with the girl I was with last time I was in SP. Never done this type of thing so I am going to try it out and see how we do together in a different place.I'm actually doing the same thing! SP girl included LOL Going to Arraial do Cabo for 5 nights and then either hitting Cabo Frio or Buzio for 2 nights, not sure which yet. Last minute Valentine's week plan because I'm a hopeless Romantic. Cool thing is that Valentine's Day in Brazil is in June so prices are normal.
Was initially going to just go straight to Buzio but all the cool fun things (4 x4, ATVs, horseback riding, etc) are located in Arraial so figured might as well stay there instead of doing an hour drive from Buzio and back everyday. Arraial has Greek Mykonos like houses and villas nearby which looks amazing. Surprised no one has mentioned it before as I always hear about Buzio. Pretty affordable airbnbs can be had for $50-150 bucks so not too bad. Definitely a getaway destination for your GFE / Wife girl.
As much as I like RJ it definitely feels touristy after my 3rd visit so looking forward to checking these new locations and will report back in the RJ thread since that thread gets all the attention and others can benefit about learning about a new place to go in RJ to get away from the hustle and bustle of Rio.
Do you status with any hotel chains? If so, pick one of those. If you don't, then I would recommend reading a few pages back and there are some discussion of the hotels. I personally always stay at the Renaissance. It is in a very nice area and is super safe plus extremely GF and also has some WG at the bar downstairs in the evenings.That reminds me the last to previous trip, I was at the Renaissance bar having a drink before my evening trip to Scandallo. So I bought a drink for one of the better looking branca WG at the bar (maybe early 30's) then took her up to the room (surreptitiously no one had a clue except fellow ISG monger Giuseppe). Quick BBBJCIM. No talk of money but tipped 200 R. SP is right up there in the top mongering places on the planet!
Tax deductible?
I will be in rio on the 3rd only and will be in Buzios for the weekend. I then fly back to SP on Saturday and back home on Sunday. All my trips to Brazil are for work with a weekend thrown in for fun😜.
ThatIndianGuy1
01-31-22, 22:01
Anyways she quoted 600/ HR Hi,
Sorry for the newbie question. Heading to SP for the first time. So this 600 reals per hour means you pop twice in the hour, right?
ThatIndianGuy1
02-01-22, 19:37
A stunning looking girl from Barras VIP just quoted me USD 50 for an hour. Can that be true or it maybe a typo on her part.
A stunning looking girl from Barras VIP just quoted me USD 50 for an hour. Can that be true or it maybe a typo on her part.It very well could be true. But, it also could be true that she's not quite as stunning as her pics would suggest hahaha! But, that site does have a strong reputation. So, good luck bro!
ThatIndianGuy1
02-01-22, 21:52
It very well could be true. But, it also could be true that she's not quite as stunning as her pics would suggest hahaha! But, that site does have a strong reputation. So, good luck bro!And now I have lost the damn link of the site. Can someone please give me the link? Thanks.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-01-22, 23:15
And now I have lost the damn link of the site. Can someone please give me the link? Thanks.Found the site again. What's up with these Barra VIP girls? They rarely respond on Whatsapp.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-02-22, 00:46
Found the site again. What's up with these Barra VIP girls? They rarely respond on Whatsapp.You're right. It doesn't say that. I stand corrected.
Omicron Gamma
02-02-22, 07:48
After 3 cancellations over a year I'm finally arriving in SP Feb 10th - 14th before heading on to Rio. 4 days isn't long so a compressed set of activities for me and my friend travelling.
Will start each morning with a visit to the Prive's.
Prime, Enjoy, Tangara, 57 & Brooklin.
Rest in the afternoon, sightsee and if the boy allows maybe a follow up to sample as many houses as possible.
In the evenings I've reached out to a couple ladies from online who have done video calls to verify the look and will come to the hotel for are $200 an hour. If it's fun, can then try to negotiate for longer.
2 evenings are for going hard with one night definitely in Scandello. From reading this forum and GPGuia the price inflation is a bit out of control and I prefer the CPF ratio from the Prive's so I'm going mainly to look. My friend is more the big spender in that regard.
It would be good to get some tips on a second boate to visit as there has been feedback on all of Connection, Bomboa, Bahamas & Casarao?
I also read here that some T2 Prive girls will take are $400 for TLN; can anyone give the names of the houses that do this?
I'm sure things will change but for now this is the plan and hopefully it all works out as this will be the a mindblower of a trip, especially as it's the first time in SP.
Thanks to all for the contributions, it helped greatly on planning.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-02-22, 15:40
You're right. It doesn't say that. I stand corrected.Sorry. Replied on wrong thread.
It would be good to get some tips on a second boate to visit as there has been feedback on all of Connection, Bomboa, Bahamas & Casarao.Definitely Casarao. Bomboa from Tuesday to Friday, if you don't mind it being very crowded. When I was there on Friday the quantity and quality were down, but still ok place to chill and chat with the girls.
Dasisextra
02-02-22, 22:35
In the evenings I've reached out to a couple ladies from online who have done video calls to verify the look and will come to the hotel for are $200 an hour. If it's fun, can then try to negotiate for longer.
I also read here that some T2 Prive girls will take are $400 for TLN;.200 usd / 1100-1200 reais for an hour is absolutely crazy IMHO.
400 usd 2300/2400 reais for overnight is also crazy, you should not pay more then 1500 for a Scandalo girl for overnight.
Chatting with a girl in Zeus last night agreed to 1000 reais.
Some of these girls think they have a golden pussy.
200 usd / 1100-1200 reais for an hour is absolutely crazy IMHO.
400 usd 2300/2400 reais for overnight is also crazy, you should not pay more then 1500 for a Scandalo girl for overnight.
Chatting with a girl in Zeus last night agreed to 1000 reais.
Some of these girls think they have a golden pussy.Sometimes the autocorrect changes BRL to are.
SamaRiding
02-03-22, 05:50
Definitely Casarao. Bomboa from Tuesday to Friday, if you don't mind it being very crowded. When I was there on Friday the quantity and quality were down, but still ok place to chill and chat with the girls.In my last trip in Dec, casarão was packed. In the last week I went on a Friday and Tues and it was much less crowded. There were still plenty of girls but less than Dec. Not sure if it's omicron or because it was raining all day for the last week. I texted a couple of casarão girls I met previously and I guess I have to get to my apt. Still had a good time.
I'm in scandallo tonight weds. And it has the standard amazing selection of girls though a little less than Dec also. I sessioned with who I knew before. Definitely many spinners and hot thin girls. If money is no care and you are in SP for a few days, I suggest just camp out in scandallo. You will be happy.
The clinicas are still great value if you have the time and energy to find the gems. Comparing high end with low end Clínicas. I went to lotus lounge yesterday and sessioned with Alfa, 680 r for one hour. She was a waif tall model. She did all GFE but a little professional. She has worked in the USA before and is going back in next months to work as a stripper+ in Miami. They saw you a tablet with all the girls (probably total of 30) with video and face shots. Some hot girls though I doubt they are newbie.
Contrast to Liz who was a newbie at Kin Clínica, 20 with a great body, 220 r for one hour. She also all GFE but intense. I had come but was still hard. She saw that I was hard and kept stroking, blowing, fucking me and I couldn't come again. I actually told her that it was OK to stop cause I didn't think I would come again. She would stop and ask why and then start stroking me again. She was truly disappointed that she couldn't make me come again. At the end she was about to BBFS when the phone rang.
The reasons I love SP.
Omicron Gamma
02-03-22, 07:16
200 usd / 1100-1200 reais for an hour is absolutely crazy IMHO.
400 usd 2300/2400 reais for overnight is also crazy, you should not pay more then 1500 for a Scandalo girl for overnight.
Chatting with a girl in Zeus last night agreed to 1000 reais.
Some of these girls think they have a golden pussy.As Nordico pointed out, autocorrect malfunction, my bookings are for R$200. I wouldn't even pay the R$1500 for TLN. If some want to call me cheap, I will accept it.
Fact is the minimum monthly wage in Brazil is are $1000. These girls know the gringo's are in town throwing money around and when charging R$1000/1500 they can work 2/3 times a month and make a good living. A GP called Angel Naomi from Club Model charges are $700 per hour and only takes 2 bookings a week max, when SHE's horny. If the local forista's try to negotiate down she tells them she makes more from the gringo's at Scandello and so they can take it or leave it.
Each to their own, but no way I will pay in Brazil more than what I was paying in Abu Dhabi / Dubai for TLN. Saying that, watch a Japa with wide hips walk past in Scandello and me throw my wallet at her!
Thanks for the club recommendations, thankfully Casarao is round the corner from my hotel so can easily check it out. Unfortunately, my membership has lapsed and not sure when the money will arrive to renew it so no PM but if I run into any members, first drink is on me.
Axel Heyst
02-03-22, 14:07
In my last trip in Dec, casaro was packed. In the last week I went on a Friday and Tues and it was much less crowded. There were still plenty of girls but less than Dec. Not sure if it's omicron or because it was raining all day for the last week. I texted a couple of casaro girls I met previously and I guess I have to get to my apt. Still had a good time.
I'm in scandallo tonight weds. And it has the standard amazing selection of girls though a little less than Dec also. I sessioned with who I knew before. Definitely many spinners and hot thin girls. If money is no care and you are in SP for a few days, I suggest just camp out in scandallo. You will be happy.
The clinicas are still great value if you have the time and energy to find the gems. Comparing high end with low end Clnicas. I went to lotus lounge yesterday and sessioned with Alfa, 680 r for one hour. She was a waif tall model. She did all GFE but a little professional. She has worked in the USA before and is going back in next months to work as a stripper+ in Miami. They saw you a tablet with all the girls (probably total of 30) with video and face shots. Some hot girls though I doubt they are newbie.
Contrast to Liz who was a newbie at Kin Clnica, 20 with a great body, 220 r for one hour. She also all GFE but intense. I had come but was still hard. She saw that I was hard and kept stroking, blowing, fucking me and I couldn't come again. I actually told her that it was OK to stop cause I didn't think I would come again. She would stop and ask why and then start stroking me again. She was truly disappointed that she couldn't make me come again. At the end she was about to BBFS when the phone rang..Great post Sama. I love SP for the same reasons. I am going to check out Lotus Lounge on my next trip. I have not gone up to now because I prefer a real lineup, not pics, but I got to go. The girls look really good. Too good, maybe. HA HA. But I will see for myself. Alfa looks smoking hot.
As Nordico pointed out, autocorrect malfunction, my bookings are for R$200. I wouldn't even pay the R$1500 for TLN. If some want to call me cheap, I will accept it.
Fact is the minimum monthly wage in Brazil is are $1000. These girls know the gringo's are in town throwing money around and when charging R$1000/1500 they can work 2/3 times a month and make a good living. A GP called Angel Naomi from Club Model charges are $700 per hour and only takes 2 bookings a week max, when SHE's horny. If the local forista's try to negotiate down she tells them she makes more from the gringo's at Scandello and so they can take it or leave it.
Each to their own, but no way I will pay in Brazil more than what I was paying in Abu Dhabi / Dubai for TLN. Saying that, watch a Japa with wide hips walk past in Scandello and me throw my wallet at her!
Thanks for the club recommendations, thankfully Casarao is round the corner from my hotel so can easily check it out. Unfortunately, my membership has lapsed and not sure when the money will arrive to renew it so no PM but if I run into any members, first drink is on me.Have you been to Brazil before?
After reading the posts in the UAE forum, I have my doubts about the girls there. I haven't been but have a trip booked in March. But I am pretty sure the girls won't be anything like the Brazilians. Either way, I will be looking forward to your reviews.
Have you been to Brazil before?
After reading the posts in the UAE forum, I have my doubts about the girls there. I haven't been but have a trip booked in March. But I am pretty sure the girls won't be anything like the Brazilians. Either way, I will be looking forward to your reviews.There are plenty of hot girls plying it in the UAE. And the place has the most diverse line-ups on offer of any other country I have ever been to (that's a lot). The problem is that they're not fucking like a Brasiliera, and typically want more money (that was my experience when I went). More money for less work! To that I say bunk! By the way, one of my fav Brazilian girls who I met at the old Cafe Photo had spent some time working in the UAE. Said she made good money, but from a cultural / language standpoint she felt isolated and alone, so chose to come back home to "ply".
ThatIndianGuy1
02-03-22, 22:53
Have you been to Brazil before?
After reading the posts in the UAE forum, I have my doubts about the girls there. I haven't been but have a trip booked in March. But I am pretty sure the girls won't be anything like the Brazilians. Either way, I will be looking forward to your reviews.Last time I was in UAE, most of the girls working were from Russia / Eastern Europe. I haven't been to Brazil yet (arriving there next month) but just from the pics on websites, I think Brazilian girls are much better than the available stock in UAE.
There are plenty of hot girls plying it in the UAE. And the place has the most diverse line-ups on offer of any other country I have ever been to (that's a lot). The problem is that they're not fucking like a Brasiliera, and typically want more money (that was my experience when I went). More money for less work! To that I say bunk! By the way, one of my fav Brazilian girls who I met at the old Cafe Photo had spent some time working in the UAE. Said she made good money, but from a cultural / language standpoint she felt isolated and alone, so chose to come back home to "ply".This was my take from reading the posts on the UAE forum. It looks like there is a huge variety of nationalities available but none seemed to have what the brasilieras have to offer. Same in Hong Kong. Lots of available girls but in the end, I always chose someone from South America.
Not much discussed but there are some girls who just advertised on twitter. I found a thread that advertises GP in SP. Look at the 600 plus girls that this guy is following. I know a few names but not sure about the rest if fakes. Though looks current. Enjoy. If find a good one, report it!
DeadlockGpguia.Twitter is awesome for gp's but just know they on the higher end like around 400-600 reais like the other poster said. But if you want a porn star start building ya Twitter I fucked Lina Nakamura last time I was in SP last September and had Marsha love lined up in Rio before I broke my leg in RJ They are more expensive but Twitter is the way for me. Matter of fact in 2 trips to SP I still haven't made it to a clinic o boate in SP bcuz the list of Twitter girls I want is sooooo long LOL.
200 usd / 1100-1200 reais for an hour is absolutely crazy IMHO.
400 usd 2300/2400 reais for overnight is also crazy, you should not pay more then 1500 for a Scandalo girl for overnight.
Chatting with a girl in Zeus last night agreed to 1000 reais.
Some of these girls think they have a golden pussy.You not lying my friend; I was in SP last September and contacted Luna Leblanc (Miss Bumbum 2021) she asked for R1500 for the hour! Needless to say that was the end of that convo and dream.
Vagabundo1
02-04-22, 04:33
Miss BumBum candidates and high maintenance women.
I was with a possible Miss BumBum candidate for 2 months. She was a tier 1 terma girl / pick up.
These girls are self absorbed, narcissist, head cases who are constant instagram models. It is such a pain in the ass to date. Always need basically more money — for new cloths, for new bedding, for cleaning, for food and drink for their dirt poor families with 6 brothers, and out of work fathers, and pregnant sisters, fat ass mothers and grand mothers who are fully in support of their hoar hot ass daughter / grand daughters. Vagabundo did wife up the young hot ass for 2 months, for 400 on average for 25 overnights over 2 months, and lots of meals, ubers and expensive luxury movies. But it was a pain in the Mfing ass.
You not lying my friend; I was in SP last September and contacted Luna Leblanc (Miss Bumbum 2021) she asked for R1500 for the hour! Needless to say that was the end of that convo and dream.
You not lying my friend; I was in SP last September and contacted Luna Leblanc (Miss Bumbum 2021) she asked for R1500 for the hour! Needless to say that was the end of that convo and dream.
Omicron Gamma
02-04-22, 07:12
Have you been to Brazil before?
After reading the posts in the UAE forum, I have my doubts about the girls there. I haven't been but have a trip booked in March. But I am pretty sure the girls won't be anything like the Brazilians. Either way, I will be looking forward to your reviews.I've been twice, 2014 & 2016. First time to Rio, second time to Salvador and Rio. Eden Spa, where the hostess spoke perfect English was my go to in Copa. A dupla with 2 chocolate beauties out of Dolce Vita was the highlight of my life, yet alone the second trip.
A good friend of mine is an academic in Sao Paulo and he has always told me that when I'm in Brazil don't compare prices to what they are back here in London. If I do that I will think everything is reasonable when in fact if you compare it to what people earn you will see that everything is expensive!
As for the UAE I've done Dubai on holiday and between the Jumeirah Emirates Towers Bar and the Jumeirah Beach Hotel rooftop there was a selection of girls from all over the world, stunning. I didn't go to clubs but it's there. Abu Dhabi was for the F1 in 2017 and 800 AED / £140 (at rates back then) got me a beauty from Belarus and a Moroccan chick, both TLN. Illusions was the name of the club. They may not move their hips like a Brazilian woman, but you'll find something.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-04-22, 15:40
Twitter is awesome for gp's but just know they on the higher end like around 400-600 reais like the other poster said. But if you want a porn star start building ya Twitter I fucked Lina Nakamura last time I was in SP last September and had Marsha love lined up in Rio before I broke my leg in RJ They are more expensive but Twitter is the way for me. Matter of fact in 2 trips to SP I still haven't made it to a clinic o boate in SP bcuz the list of Twitter girls I want is sooooo long LOL.How do you find them on Twitter?
Miss BumBum candidates and high maintenance women.
I was with a possible Miss BumBum candidate for 2 months. She was a tier 1 terma girl / pick up.
These girls are self absorbed, narcissist, head cases who are constant instagram models. It is such a pain in the ass to date. Always need basically more money for new cloths, for new bedding, for cleaning, for food and drink for their dirt poor families with 6 brothers, and out of work fathers, and pregnant sisters, fat ass mothers and grand mothers who are fully in support of their hoar hot ass daughter / grand daughters. Vagabundo did wife up the young hot ass for 2 months, for 400 on average for 25 overnights over 2 months, and lots of meals, ubers and expensive luxury movies. But it was a pain in the Mfing ass.Still got to link with you bud. I have to come back to rio soon to recover some things I left. I was there in September but had to leave; fractured my tibia plateau on one of them god damn lime scooters in copa. I'm hoping to come in April soon as walking without these damn crutches.
How do you find them on Twitter?Thru this.
... Look at the 600 plus girls that this guy is following. I know a few names but not sure about the rest if fakes. Though looks current. Enjoy. If find a good one, report it!
DeadlockGpguia
How do you find them on Twitter?Follow at OAndarilho on twitter and just start following girls you see him post, it will start giving us suggestions of people to follow me all. Find another dude or gp look at who they follow and just start following them. Two of my favs are two Argentina chicks at sophiaferrarisp and at YasminePiovane. Also the the jap / Brazilian I post the pic of at eulinanakamura. Be warned they are on the higher price scale but all worth it in my book. I've seen Sophia 4 times total seen her once with Yasmine they are best friends. I saw Lina 2 nights in a row in September I don't mind the repeat if the vibe is right and sex is good. Boa sorte.
Axel Heyst
02-04-22, 22:25
So I am flying down to SP on the Thursday before Good Friday and I am looking forward to it. The holy weekend will not be a problem for me. I have got my favorite girls lined up for special reunions that will jump start my trip just fine. Vanessa, Manni, Livia, Julianna are ready to welcome me back with open arms. I miss you girls big time! Only darling, little Sheila has not rsvp'd. I think she has a new phone or something and I might not be able to get in touch with her until I go to Scandallo. Oh well. She was special. What a great French kisser and as cute as a Portuguese Pêra Rocha do Oeste, but I am sure there are many, many attractive girls in the wings ready and willing to show me an equally good time. That's why I dig SP so much and the reason that for this trip I plan to spend 6 weeks here and only 1 week in RJ. What can I say? I am a big city boy. I prefer BKK over Pat too.
The Critic
02-05-22, 02:40
How do you find them on Twitter?Of the resources provided by previous posters, IF they post whatsapp phone numbers, it is a sure sign that they are most likely available talent.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-05-22, 15:11
Hi all,
I'm staying at Blue Tree Premium Paulista during my first trip to SP. Any reviews of the hotel?
Thanks.
TIG.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-05-22, 16:12
Of the resources provided by previous posters, IF they post whatsapp phone numbers, it is a sure sign that they are most likely available talent.I found some who have their numbers listed on Twitter but they are not on WhatsApp. I don't get it. Doesn't it make more business sense to be on WhatsApp for your international clients? Or are they looking for everyone to get a local sim?
Thanks to everyone for your replies though.
Heading to Scandello tonight. If anyone wants to meet up and shoot some shit, look for the dark skinned guy wearing a blue shirt with grey slacks. Supposed to be meeting the girl I spent time with in Buzios. But we have agreed to let things happen as they happen.
Report back tomorrow.
I scheduled the QURED test Saturday morning at 815 am in Buzios for my flight that leaves on Sunday at 950 pm from GRU. The test was done quickly and efficiently and I had my results in my email in less than 30 mins. Uploaded the PDF file to VeriFLY and in approx 1. 5 hrs (they where running behind on verifying test results)! I was cleared to fly.
So much easier than finding a pharmacy, making an appointment and then waiting in line. I am definitely sold on this method.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-06-22, 16:05
I scheduled the QURED test Saturday morning at 815 am in Buzios for my flight that leaves on Sunday at 950 pm from GRU. The test was done quickly and efficiently and I had my results in my email in less than 30 mins. Uploaded the PDF file to VeriFLY and in approx 1. 5 hrs (they where running behind on verifying test results)! I was cleared to fly.
So much easier than finding a pharmacy, making an appointment and then waiting in line. I am definitely sold on this method.CDC says "one day before flight" so I guess it's not 24 hours actually since you got the test more than 24 hours before the flight, right?
I am carrying a similar kit with me (Reliant).
Thanks for the info!
Reached around 8 pm and met the girl who I spent the weekend with for dinner. The dinner fine and filled me up. Entry was 400 with 200 for consumables which covered my dinner.
It was a slow night when I came in. The restaurant was practically empty as we ate and the small outside patio was packed. Eventually, they opened up the larger patio on the other side and that got full as the night went on. The nightclub area was empty at the start but also got pretty full as the night wore on.
There were probably 100-150 girls available and not as many guys like the last time I was in Scandello.
Talked to a bunch of girls and ultimately settled on one that was hanging around the area I was chilling at. Settled at are $1000 for all night with anal. Didn't try for BBFS. Two pops. One when I got home and once in the morning when she left.
Met up with ISGer MrLunatix123 and we chatted it up for a bit. Cool laid back guy and maybe we will meet again.
Vagabundo1
02-06-22, 17:17
How much did you pay the Scandallo girl for the Buzios trip?
Thanks for the good report.
Reached around 8 pm and met the girl who I spent the weekend with for dinner. The dinner fine and filled me up. Entry was 400 with 200 for consumables which covered my dinner.
It was a slow night when I came in. The restaurant was practically empty as we ate and the small outside patio was packed. Eventually, they opened up the larger patio on the other side and that got full as the night went on. The nightclub area was empty at the start but also got pretty full as the night wore on.
There were probably 100-150 girls available and not as many guys like the last time I was in Scandello.
Talked to a bunch of girls and ultimately settled on one that was hanging around the area I was chilling at. Settled at are $1000 for all night with anal. Didn't try for BBFS. Two pops. One when I got home and once in the morning when she left.
Met up with ISGer MrLunatix123 and we chatted it up for a bit. Cool laid back guy and maybe we will meet again.
SamaRiding
02-06-22, 20:10
I scheduled the QURED test Saturday morning at 815 am in Buzios for my flight that leaves on Sunday at 950 pm from GRU. The test was done quickly and efficiently and I had my results in my email in less than 30 mins. Uploaded the PDF file to VeriFLY and in approx 1. 5 hrs (they where running behind on verifying test results)! I was cleared to fly.
So much easier than finding a pharmacy, making an appointment and then waiting in line. I am definitely sold on this method.I did the same test on eMed on Sunday early morning for my Sunday night flight. Super easy. 3 minutes to do the test on video. Then wait 15 minutes where I can do something else while the phone camera was still on. 1 min on video again to check the results. The supervisor immediately sent the PDF of the test results to my email.
SamaRiding
02-06-22, 22:09
Not sure how much omicron affected SP. Cases increased some but has stabilized. Overall the numbers in Brazil looks like it has peaked. Everybody is aware of omicron and maybe more mask wearing. The girls don't mention that it has affected them. Everything is open with normal hours. The boates are less full than in Dec. Not sure if it's omicron or just the seasonal variation after the holidays. The clinicas are pretty full of girls and guys. And I didn't get sick and I didn't shy away from anything. I am 2 x plus booster.
SamaRiding
02-06-22, 23:18
I am sure what I was expecting but the summer weather over last 10 days in SP was pretty bad. It rained everyday and just a quick tropical storm. Early last week it literally rained for 3 straight whole days. Very overcast. I brought a pair of sunglasses on the trip, never used them. Wondering if this was fluke or this is what SP summer are like? At least I didn't bake in any of the clinicas.
Sat around Sunday morning wondering what to do after breakfast. Felt that I needed to scratch my last itch of hitting a tight cornhole.
Looked up clinicas but decided against driving around and trying to find the right gem and I am also lazy. So, I decided to check the sites. Sent out a few messages to different girls from different sites and waited for replies.
Went to lunch at Taberna 474 . Which I highly recommend if you enjoy fresh seafood and came back to the hotel. Maybe I might be able to snag a girl at the bar but nothing was waiting. In fact, I didn't see a girl sitting at the bar all Saturday nor Sunday. The hotel was super full with guests so maybe that might be a reason.
Checked PA and came across this:
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/moema/ninfeta-de-luxo-adoro-sexo-anal-e-sou-bem-safada-id-9j99q
Sent her a message and she responded right away so we fixed a time and duration. SP girls don't really negotiate on short times span and I had a plane to catch. So, it would end up costing me are $850 with Uber.
She met me at the bar and I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND this one. Tall, skinny, had tattoos, pink nipples, rosy pussy and a nice squeezable ass.
Gets to the room, she takes a shower to get ready and we start with lots of DFK. Great BBJ and DATY, slip the condom on and enter her tight pussy. I stop after a few strokes and tell her I want that ass. So, she grabs the lube, puts it in her ass and gives me her ass. After hitting it for a while, I finish in the condom and we take a break. She cleans herself up and we do it again for round two. Same process except I lasted much longer and was pounding that ass for a while. She was getting goose bumps all over the body while I was pounding that ass and she handled it well. Finished in the condom and she took a shower and left.
That itch got scratched. Till next time 🤣.
GoodTimes1031
02-07-22, 00:02
Sat around Sunday morning wondering what to do after breakfast. Felt that I needed to scratch my last itch of hitting a tight cornhole.
Looked up clinicas but decided against driving around and trying to find the right gem and I am also lazy. So, I decided to check the sites. Sent out a few messages to different girls from different sites and waited for replies.
Went to lunch at Taberna 474 . Which I highly recommend if you enjoy fresh seafood and came back to the hotel. Maybe I might be able to snag a girl at the bar but nothing was waiting. In fact, I didn't see a girl sitting at the bar all Saturday nor Sunday. The hotel was super full with guests so maybe that might be a reason.
Checked PA and came across this:
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/moema/ninfeta-de-luxo-adoro-sexo-anal-e-sou-bem-safada-id-9j99q
Sent her a message and she responded right away so we fixed a time and duration. SP girls don't really negotiate on short times span and I had a plane to catch..I've been considering that one for awhile. For me anal is a requirement. And I love them skinny. Although generally I prefer the shorter girls. Still, with a review like that I'm going to have to give her some attention.
SamaRiding
02-07-22, 00:06
I found some who have their numbers listed on Twitter but they are not on WhatsApp. I don't get it. Doesn't it make more business sense to be on WhatsApp for your international clients? Or are they looking for everyone to get a local sim?
Thanks to everyone for your replies though.The international cliente probably represents less than 5% of the mongers. Even in highest priced scandallo, where most locals can't offer, it's less than 10%. I had a few online girls who were shocked I couldn't speak Portuguese. One girl was like WOW. China Man, like I was her first. There is actually a large Japanese community and smaller Chinese community in SP, but they born and raised in Brazil. Asians are so common in SP, everybody assumes I am a local until I open my mouth.
I don't think girls would list a regular mobile number. WhatsApp is everywhere in Brazil. I have never mobile texted anyone. Most likely is that those numbers are disabled.
SamaRiding
02-07-22, 00:47
I had the intention to see more online girls and higher end clinicas. I even had a list of online girls which I never got a chance to contact. And I only visit lotus lounge once and had an ok experience with a beautiful girl and decided it worth it. A lot of time was spent in apt with my regular clinicas girls. My MO is I ask the best clinicas girls for their WhatsApp and get them to me for longer periods for about 200 r per hour. My favorite girl now is a brunette spinner. My good fortune is that she has this week off from her regular normal life day job and she wanted to make extra money. In the beginning of the week, She would either spend a few hour with me or work in her Clínica (which she rarely attend now). When she worked in the Clínica, I avoided that Clínica for that day because I didn't want the chance she would be upset if I took another girl. I know this is a crazy though.
But many of us how crazy Brazilian girls are. The next day she spent with me, I asked her about Duo (threesomes) and if she does them. She says yes and list off a few girls. BAM. My problem is solved. I told her I wanted to do Duos with her and another girl. Over the next three days, I had three amazing duo one hour sessions for 300 r each. Today, she came over to my apt in the morning for a few hour and then she went to work in Clínica and we had a great session with new 18 yo girl. Each session my girl made sure that I had a great time. I only recommend duo with at least one girl you know very well. Clínica girls don't interact with each and sometimes the Passion is lost with two girls. 1+1 doesn't always add to 2. The 18 yo girl was not very experienced but my girl took charge, directed and made sure I had a great last session before flying off today. Probably next time, she said she can ask some girls back to my place for Duos.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-07-22, 02:04
Sat around Sunday morning wondering what to do after breakfast. Felt that I needed to scratch my last itch of hitting a tight cornhole.
Looked up clinicas but decided against driving around and trying to find the right gem and I am also lazy. So, I decided to check the sites. Sent out a few messages to different girls from different sites and waited for replies.
Went to lunch at Taberna 474 . Which I highly recommend if you enjoy fresh seafood and came back to the hotel. Maybe I might be able to snag a girl at the bar but nothing was waiting. In fact, I didn't see a girl sitting at the bar all Saturday nor Sunday. The hotel was super full with guests so maybe that might be a reason.
Checked PA and came across this:
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/moema/ninfeta-de-luxo-adoro-sexo-anal-e-sou-bem-safada-id-9j99q
Sent her a message and she responded right away so we fixed a time and duration. SP girls don't really negotiate on short times span and I had a plane to catch. So, it would end up costing me are $850 with Uber.
She met me at the bar and I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND this one. Tall, skinny, had tattoos, pink nipples, rosy pussy and a nice squeezable ass..Great post! For someone who is planning to visit SP for the first time, the site you mentioned is new to me. Seems like girls on this site are charging much lesser than the are $500/600 that seems to be the standard fare on other sites like mclass and private55. What's the catch?
Thanks,
TIG.
Axel Heyst
02-07-22, 03:37
I scheduled the QURED test Saturday morning at 815 am in Buzios for my flight that leaves on Sunday at 950 pm from GRU. The test was done quickly and efficiently and I had my results in my email in less than 30 mins. Uploaded the PDF file to VeriFLY and in approx 1. 5 hrs (they where running behind on verifying test results)! I was cleared to fly.
So much easier than finding a pharmacy, making an appointment and then waiting in line. I am definitely sold on this method.Hey Anaggie,
Glad to see you had a good time at Scandallo. It is my favorite place in Brazil. I never had a bad session there.
Anyway, on my 2 previous trips I stayed at Hyatt and the hotel arranged and comped for a RT-PCR test in my hotel room. But since then Biden shortened the time requirements for testing from 72 hours to 1 day, so it's either get an antigen test at a pharmacy to try Qured online.
I like your tip about using Qured online testing and I checked them out online. https://www.qured.us/return-to-the-usa.
Everything seems pretty cool, but I just don't understand how this works. Specifically, how do you submit your test sample over the internet to Qured in order for the testing center to compute the results and supply the necessary subsequent verification? Is visual readout confirmation on the video call with your Qured Health advisor sufficient to accomplish this feat? Or, and this is really dumb on my part, is there some kind of a blu-tooth connection on the probe that sends the data directly Qured? I just don't get it. Please enlighten me.
Thanks,
A. H.
Axel Heyst
02-07-22, 03:49
Great post! For someone who is planning to visit SP for the first time, the site you mentioned is new to me. Seems like girls on this site are charging much lesser than the are $500/600 that seems to be the standard fare on other sites like mclass and private55. What's the catch?
There is no catch. They are 2 different venues. Boates a nightclubs / bars with FL hookers and live entertainment. Rooms are available on site or you can take the girls out of the club. Up to you. Escort sites have available escorts advertising their services to over the internet. If you spot one you like you can text her WhatsApp number to begin the process. Try both venues and see which one you like. I have met a number of great gals on MClass in SP and Barr Vips in RJ, but I personally prefer #1. Boates in SP, #2. Termas in RJ and #3. Clinicas in SP by a wide margin.
...I don't think girls would list a regular mobile number. WhatsApp is everywhere in Brazil. I have never mobile texted anyone. Most likely is that those numbers are disabled.I vaguely remember that I either removed or changed the first digit to find it on WhatsApp. I just compared the numbers and did it.
SamaRiding
02-07-22, 11:21
Great post! For someone who is planning to visit SP for the first time, the site you mentioned is new to me. Seems like girls on this site are charging much lesser than the are $500/600 that seems to be the standard fare on other sites like mclass and private55. What's the catch?.The nickname of this website is Photo Fakes. Lots lots of fakes. Be very careful.
Omicron Gamma
02-07-22, 13:22
Great post! For someone who is planning to visit SP for the first time, the site you mentioned is new to me. Seems like girls on this site are charging much lesser than the are $500/600 that seems to be the standard fare on other sites like mclass and private55. What's the catch?.Be careful with Photo, I can tell you from my experience that it's an awful lot of fake profiles at the cheaper level. Make sure to ask them for a video call to verify or see if they have reviews on gpguia. Very easy to get burnt, Anaggie clearly has a handle on his operations but I can attest to have wasted far too many hours trying to find value on Photo.
Omicron Gamma
02-07-22, 13:25
I had the intention to see more online girls and higher end clinicas. I even had a list of online girls which I never got a chance to contact. And I only visit lotus lounge once and had an ok experience with a beautiful girl and decided it worth it. A lot of time was spent in apt with my regular clinicas girls. My MO is I ask the best clinicas girls for their WhatsApp and get them to me for longer periods for about 200 r per hour. My favorite girl now is a brunette spinner. My good fortune is that she has this week off from her regular normal life day job and she wanted to make extra money. In the beginning of the week, She would either spend a few hour with me or work in her Clnica (which she rarely attend now). When she worked in the Clnica, I avoided that Clnica for that day because I didn't want the chance she would be upset if I took another girl. I know this is a crazy though.
But many of us how crazy Brazilian girls are. The next day she spent with me, I asked her about Duo (threesomes) and if she does them. She says yes and list off a few girls. BAM. My problem is solved. I told her I wanted to do Duos with her and another girl. Over the next three days, I had three amazing duo one hour sessions for 300 r each. Today, she came over to my apt in the morning for a few hour and then she went to work in Clnica and we had a great session with new 18 yo girl. Each session my girl made sure that I had a great time. I only recommend duo with at least one girl you know very well. Clnica girls don't interact with each and sometimes the Passion is lost with two girls. 1+1 doesn't always add to 2. The 18 yo girl was not very experienced but my girl took charge, directed and made sure I had a great last session before flying off today. Probably next time, she said she can ask some girls back to my place for Duos.Great insight, thank you. Can you recommend which specific clinician's would be good for this approach?
CDC says "one day before flight" so I guess it's not 24 hours actually since you got the test more than 24 hours before the flight, right?
I am carrying a similar kit with me (Reliant).
Thanks for the info!It is 24 hrs to enter Brazil with an antigen test.
It is 1 day before to enter the US with an antigen test.
Easy to get confused.
Not sure how much omicron affected SP. Cases increased some but has stabilized. Overall the numbers in Brazil looks like it has peaked. Everybody is aware of omicron and maybe more mask wearing. The girls don't mention that it has affected them. Everything is open with normal hours. The boates are less full than in Dec. Not sure if it's omicron or just the seasonal variation after the holidays. The clinicas are pretty full of girls and guys. And I didn't get sick and I didn't shy away from anything. I am 2 x plus booster.Agree. I did the same. Lived life like it was before covid. The Renaissance was packed with people, the bar was packed at night and the breakfast was slammed on Sunday morning. Some stupid covid rules still in effect which make zero sense like wearing a plastic glove to hold your plate. A mask when getting food but eating in a fully packed room with tables right next you filled with people 🤦127997;8205;9794;65039;.
Great post! For someone who is planning to visit SP for the first time, the site you mentioned is new to me. Seems like girls on this site are charging much lesser than the are $500/600 that seems to be the standard fare on other sites like mclass and private55. What's the catch?
Thanks,
TIG.A lot of them are fake profiles, bait and switch types. The other sites are more professional and the girls pay to be on the site and they are verified. This one is free for anyone to post (I think) and they don't have to be professional pictures. So prices can swing from left to right.
I've been considering that one for awhile. For me anal is a requirement. And I love them skinny. Although generally I prefer the shorter girls. Still, with a review like that I'm going to have to give her some attention.You won't be disappointed!!
Steve 9696
02-07-22, 13:45
A lot of them are fake profiles, bait and switch types. The other sites are more professional and the girls pay to be on the site and they are verified. This one is free for anyone to post (I think) and they don't have to be professional pictures. So prices can swing from left to right.This is definitely accurate. But its the wild Wild West. I had success tho and you can too. The key is number of reviews and rating. If a girl has a high rating and a lot of reviews I think the chances are very high she will be good. The OP maybe got a bit lucky with a girl with two reviews. I used five as my min. My girl had like forty reviews said she liked sucking cock, had a video of her doing so, and it was no lie. She was the queen of DFK and head.
But number of reviews is key.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-07-22, 14:08
Hey Anaggie,
Everything seems pretty cool, but I just don't understand how this works. Specifically, how do you submit your test sample over the internet to Qured in order for the testing center to compute the results and supply the necessary subsequent verification? Is visual readout confirmation on the video call with your Qured Health advisor sufficient to accomplish this feat? Or, and this is really dumb on my part, is there some kind of a blu-tooth connection on the probe that sends the data directly Qured? I just don't get it. Please enlighten me.They mail a do it yourself test kit to you. At the time of the test, you get on a video call with one of their representatives. You perform the test in front of them and show the result on the video and they email you the test result.
Hey Anaggie,
Everything seems pretty cool, but I just don't understand how this works. Specifically, how do you submit your test sample over the internet to Qured in order for the testing center to compute the results and supply the necessary subsequent verification? Is visual readout confirmation on the video call with your Qured Health advisor sufficient to accomplish this feat? Or, and this is really dumb on my part, is there some kind of a blu-tooth connection on the probe that sends the data directly Qured? I just don't get it. Please enlighten me.
Thanks,
A. H.So with Qured, make sure you buy the fit to fly test for entry to Brazil and back home. They will send you an email with an activation code for the number of tests that you order. Then you need to make an account with qured, use an activation code to set up the appointment. Make sure you set the time for the time zone you are in. So in SP, you would pick the time zone of Brasilia. You can do this before you leave for your trip.
They will send you a text message with a link for the test one hour before. You have to check in 15 mins before your appt time.
They explain everything and you do the test. You will need to bring a black marker with you since you have to write the some info on the test sample. After the 15 min timer, you take a picture of the test result along with a photo ID (passport) and upload it to the qured site. In approx 30-45 minutes, you will get the letter from them. You can save the pdf form and upload directly to VeriFLY so you are cleared for travel info USA.
It sounds confusing, but is really simple.
SamaRiding
02-07-22, 21:08
Great insight, thank you. Can you recommend which specific clinician's would be good for this approach?I think clinicas with stable roster of girls who would be used to working together. The ones that come my mind are Enjoy, Prime, Indy / MOAH and Miruna. I believe all of these have a duo from 280 r to 350 r for one hour. If you don't have a favorite girl, it's good to ask the reception which girl combo are good at duplas.
Omicron Gamma
02-08-22, 22:27
I think clinicas with stable roster of girls who would be used to working together. The ones that come my mind are Enjoy, Prime, Indy / MOAH and Miruna. I believe all of these have a duo from 280 r to 350 r for one hour. If you don't have a favorite girl, it's good to ask the reception which girl combo are good at duplas.I appreciate it man. Didn't have Indy on my list but it's there now. 32 hours and counting, can't wait!
This is definitely accurate. But its the wild Wild West. I had success tho and you can too. The key is number of reviews and rating. If a girl has a high rating and a lot of reviews I think the chances are very high she will be good. The OP maybe got a bit lucky with a girl with two reviews. I used five as my min. My girl had like forty reviews said she liked sucking cock, had a video of her doing so, and it was no lie. She was the queen of DFK and head.
But number of reviews is key.I can vouch that Private55 are not fake profiles. You can even find many of those girls on twitter and even reviews in the local forums (I. E GPguia).
Vagabundo1
02-09-22, 07:55
Gpguia is key.
I can vouch that Private55 are not fake profiles. You can even find many of those girls on twitter and even reviews in the local forums (I. E GPguia).
I can vouch that Private55 are not fake profiles. You can even find many of those girls on twitter and even reviews in the local forums (I. E GPguia).As Vagabundo notes, Gpguia is key. Twitter is good for validating an escort's looks presuming she has somewhat revealing facial photos. If you follow review site common sense, Gpguia is a great asset. Look for the escorts with many positive TD's (literally test drives, LOL). Make sure the positive reviews come from established reviewers not guys with one or two reviews. Do yourself a favor and learn some key Portuguese words for anatomy and sexual positions particularly if you want a specific service (I. E. Anal, CIM, etc). If you have difficulty following a Portuguese review, spend the time to translate some reviews.
Rovnak has posted some great advice for finding Brazilian escorts circa 2019. He and I had some discussions on this very topic here on the Sao Paulo forum.
I have always strongly advised against this idea that you could just shop for escorts looking for the best on-line photos. This is true anywhere in the world.
.... You can even find many of those girls on twitter and even reviews in the local forums (I. E GPguia).The opposite is also true on GPGuia so it is better to read review before booking appointment.
My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.
...Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? This is a short reply to give you a feel from my experience. Sao Paulo boates are more formal and polished in general. Solarium is more reserved when compared to 4 x4. 4 x4 has a strip club feel. Solarium is very brightly lit. I won't do the things in the club area that I can do in 4 x4 in Solarium because everyone will be watching me. haha.
If you want the termas experience minus the girls. Solarium is better but much smaller. The layout is good like a production line that you flow from one area to the next naturally. It is also better equipped (sofa) and cleaner. 4 x4 has more seating (pool chair) but cramped in the sauna area.
SamaRiding
02-09-22, 20:37
My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.The problem is you are trying to f—k the whole mega metropolis of São Paulo with 20 million people in a few days of one trip. I make light plans but I usually don't follow them once I'm on the ground. I would not plan too much. Stick to one area and avoid traveling long distances. Hit up a mixture of low end and high end clinicas during the day. And then Scandallo at night. Leave the online game for a future visit.
If you haven't been to Rio, I would advise to go there also on the first trip. It's a different scene and lifestyle. You may end up like the girls there also.
My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.My opinion is that there is no contest between Scandallo and the top-tier Rio termas. Scandallo wins. You can have fun in a Rio termas for less money, but that's entering another variable. The less expensive boates and the clinicas can help balance the value proposition of the two cities.
The real trade-off is do you want the Rio beaches and its magnificent cityscape. Rio is a premier tourist destination for good reason.
Beyond dining and the working girls, I don't find Sao Paulo that interesting of a city. I actually think Bangkok is a more interesting city. Giving up Rio for more time is SP has been discussed many times and it's a matter of personal preferences.
Vagabundo1
02-09-22, 20:49
No.
Go to Rio.
Barra posto 1.
Take the metro to centro prives by day, and go to perola negra and olegario maciel by night. Get pernoites with the hottest women.
My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.
SP is more polished, more business like and more formal. The girls are more expensive because SP has more money floating around due to it being the financial hub of Brazil. I think the girls are hotter in SP.
Rio is more laid back, informal and go with the flow vibe. The girls are cheaper because the locals are poor according to the girl I was with on my last day in SP.
I enjoy Rio for the laid back vibe but I prefer SP for the wide variety of girls, the hotness level and the variety of food options.
Try both on your first trip and then narrow it down the next time.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-09-22, 21:55
Newbie question: How is prive different from clinica?
Any notable prives?
Thanks,
TIG.
Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas?Yes, Sao Paulo is all that it appears to be and more. The termas in my opinion are not worth giving up your time in SP, but if you have never been to Rio de Janeiro, you should definitely go. My opinion is affected by the fact that I don't know RJ very well, but I have visited some termas. In October, or was it November, I was in 4 X4 and it was fun, but nothing you can't find in Casarao in larger scale.
Axel Heyst
02-09-22, 22:22
My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.Atex, my advice is don't think of it as a zero sum, win / lose game. You will have a great time in SP & RJ regardless of which town you wind up preferring at the end of your trip, and since this is your 1st visit to Brazil, I strongly recommend that you explore both towns, experience what each place has to offer and decide later which place suits your style more.
Now with that said, let me jump into this very controversial issue of which city is more fun:
A year ago, I was in the exact same position as you are now and about to make my 1st trip to Brazil. So I divided my time 55/45 between SP to RJ and I had a great time in both cities. They are very different, but the one thing they have in common is Brazilian girls and they are superb. On my 2nd trip in October I divided my time 65/35 between SP and RJ. See where this is going? KKK. It turned out that I personally preferred the clinicas and boates over the termas and the beach. But that is just me. Anyway trip #3 is coming up this April and I am going to spend 6 weeks in SP (full immersion), and only 1 week in RJ (I couldn't not spend some time in RJ), and I will see how it goes.
A few comments come to mind:
1. Scanadallo lives up to the hype. It is an amazing bordello and one of the best in the world. I am a believer. But don't forget about the other boates like Bomboa. They are a lot of fun too.
2. The termas are also great, but not as great. LOL. 4 x 4 gets pretty wild and it is very colorful, so you have to go, but Solarium has more girls with the kind of looks and bodies that are more to my personal liking. But both of these termas are a must when you visit RJ.
3. The clinicas are great afternoon entertainment and a great deal to boot, but you will have to check out both the clinicas and the boates to see which venue you prefer. Everyone has their own opinion on this. For example, a friend of mine prefers the clinicas and spends most of his SP time there while I prefer the boates and I spend the majority of my time at the boates. He likes the clinica set up better and he likes to do 2 or even 3 clinica girls a day. I, on the other hand, prefer to do 2 boate girls at night. I tried doing a clinica girl in the afternoon and one boate girl in the evening, but it didn't work for me.
4. RJ obviously has beaches and for many that is a huge plus.
5. SP is more expensive than RJ if you are comparing boates to termas. But SP is not more expensive for punters who prefer the clinicas. And IMHO the clinicas are much better than the prives.
So I will end this by saying that if you like beaches a lot you will probably prefer RJ over SP. But if beaches are not your thing you will probably prefer SP over RJ. And if money is no object you will probably hang out at the boates every night.
Gabbarsing
02-09-22, 22:48
Hi mongers,
Expect my detail report coming soon, but I will be ion cafe-photo today (Wednesday) night and to Scandello (Thursday) night. Respond to this message is someone want to hangout and we can arrange a dress code. This is going to be my second visit to Scandello.
Cheers. L.
My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.SP is amazing for the amount of nice high quality options and cheap ones as well for both day and night time. I also think SP girls are way hotter than RJ ones unless you like black girls because there's hardly in SP. I'm more into brancas, loiras and ruvias so it fits my bill. If you like a more tanned look than RJ is the place although some SP girls are tanned but I seen it's more from a machine. That being said SP is really boring as a city. Not much else to do but eat and shop besides fucking. Food is good and well diverse! But I got bored after my 7th day. SP girls are very busy so you won't catch them all the time and if you want to extend your time with them you might not be able to since they have a set schedule usually.
Compared to RJ girls who are very go with the flow and will show you around the city and give you a real GFE experience without much effort or money. RJ is much more fun besides hobbying and I think it's a nice breath of fresh air after going nuts in SP.
Termas and other venues are much much smaller than SPs but it's a different vibe with a different attitude where people just want to have fun, eat churrasco, be at the beach and fuck.
Always best to go to both for your first trip. For "long" trips 7+ days it's always worth it to go to both. For a short trip like a 4 day weekend kind of thing then it's best to just pick one.
Lucky Nuts
02-10-22, 01:55
My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.
My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.You might not want to put much weight on my opinion because I'm shocked you were sorry that you carved out time in Thailand to visit Pattaya. I love the beach towns especially when they have great nightlife with sex available. Like Thailand it's a long trip to Brazil and you should imo visit both Rio and Sao Paulo just because they are so different. You can plan on visiting 3 or 4 Sao Paulo clinicas each day because they are close together. I needed to usually hit 3 of them before I found a garota with my desired body type (skinny) to session. After six days of hitting clinicas days and boates at night I would think you would enjoy the change of scenery that Rio offers both in terms of a nice beach touristy area and different hobby venues. How would you know what you like better if you don't visit both? For that reason alone you should be glad you visited Pattaya as well.
Hi mongers,
Expect my detail report coming soon, but I will be ion cafe-photo today (Wednesday) night and to Scandello (Thursday) night. Respond to this message is someone want to hangout and we can arrange a dress code. This is going to be my second visit to Scandello.
Cheers. L.Yes, enjoy ScandAllo!
You might not want to put much weight on my opinion because I'm shocked you were sorry that you carved out time in Thailand to visit Pattaya...Haha, I reacted the same way about the comment above, regarding wasting time in Pattaya. That's probably why we have that expression which says "different strokes for different folks".
Gabbarsing
02-10-22, 16:43
Yes, enjoy ScandAllo!Are you in SP? Would love to hang out with mongers?
Axel Heyst
02-10-22, 19:08
I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.
Haha, I reacted the same way about the comment above, regarding wasting time in Pattaya. That's probably why we have that expression which says "different strokes for different folks".Or "to each his own". For example, I prefer BKK over Pat, but no way do I consider Pat a waste of time. No fucking way! It is my 2nd favorite spot in LOS, 555, and I go there and spend at least 10 days on top of the 5 or 6 weeks I spend in BKK every time I visit Thailand. It is nice to get out of the big city after a while and seriously, Pat's got more Go Go's, I am talking quality Go Go's than BKK. So what's not to like?
Anyway, it is the OP's prerogative to prefer BKK over Pat. But if this is the case then it is probably a safe bet that he will prefer SP over RJ. But I still recommend, like everyone else who has posted a response, that he check out both destinations as long as time permits so he can indulge and judge for himself. You never know unless you give it a shot.
...Anyway, it is the OP's prerogative to prefer BKK over Pat. But if this is the case then it is probably a safe bet that he will prefer SP over RJ. ...I think Rio is more similar to BKK than SP does.
Member #4775
02-11-22, 06:10
Atex, my advice is don't think of it as a zero sum, win / lose game. You will have a great time in SP & RJ regardless of which town you wind up preferring at the end of your trip, and since this is your 1st visit to Brazil, I strongly recommend that you explore both towns, experience what each place has to offer and decide later which place suits your style more.
Now with that said, let me jump into this very controversial issue of which city is more fun:
A year ago, I was in the exact same position as you are now and about to make my 1st trip to Brazil. So I divided my time 55/45 between SP to RJ and I had a great time in both cities. They are very different, but the one thing they have in common is Brazilian girls and they are superb. On my 2nd trip in October I divided my time 65/35 between SP and RJ. See where this is going? KKK. It turned out that I personally preferred the clinicas and boates over the termas and the beach. But that is just me. Anyway trip #3 is coming up this April and I am going to spend 6 weeks in SP (full immersion), and only 1 week in RJ (I couldn't not spend some time in RJ), and I will see how it goes.
A few comments come to mind:
1. Scanadallo lives up to the hype. It is an amazing bordello and one of the best in the world. I am a believer. But don't forget about the other boates like Bomboa. They are a lot of fun too.
2. The termas are also great, but not as great. LOL. 4 x 4 gets pretty wild and it is very colorful, so you have to go, but Solarium has more girls with the kind of looks and bodies that are more to my personal liking. But both of these termas are a must when you visit RJ..Can someone help explain the difference between a clinica, boate, terma, an prives? I always read this forum an the Rio forum an always get thrown off.
I'm from LOS Angeles an make random trips to Hong Kong in Tijuana. Which one of those 4 club types most closely resembles Hong Kong? An I'm not sure I'd even have a preference, I just want to have the ability to scout the talent an pick whichever suits my needs.
I'm trying to plan a trip this May, an trying to map all this out.
Thanks!
Omicron Gamma
02-11-22, 10:14
Landed at 0525 Thursday morning. Getting out of London was no issue, provided negative test and completed Anvisa health declaration online form and aboard we go. Uber pick up point is outside the terminal, ignore the ones 'offering' you an Uber and make your booking. Driver shows up promptly and are $65 to Ibis on Avenida Paulista. I considered Renaissance as per previous recommendations but having used IBIS in Bogota I'm comfortable with it for it's guest access. Arrived Hotel at 0730 and no amount of negotiating would get an early check in so looked for a breakfast spot. We settled on Bella Paulista (24 hours), had a nice buffet, coffee and ran up are $80 between us, an absolute steal.
After stalling in there for 90 minutes we got an Uber to Prime Clinicia. Google said it opened at 10 am, it does not. We arrived 1025 and only Anna was there. She's the only one who speaks English. Said we can keep her company outside while we wait. Nice girl, Ruvia. Called my buddy a dick for saying he's only in São Paulo for the sex, which he is. I wanted to smash as I've never had a redhead before and she looked real good dressed up, sexy red dress. BUT, after pulling a joke about my favourite colour being blue she gave some attitude. I still wanted to smash and get info from her (information is a great currency as we all know by being on this forum) but by 11 her appointments were full to 2 pm. Locals must like her service and the use WhatsApp and the landline to book girls. Useful to note is that she said Prime only really picks up with 12+ girls around 2 pm as most of them are at boate's and clubs at night and wake up late. I booked with Anna for 4 pm and we headed to Enjoy.
5 minute Uber around the corner to Enjoy, 4 girls already there and 3 guys in reception. My buddy likes some meat on them so jumps on Glacya (I think her name is) and I go with Stella, thin mulatta type with braces but right up my type chart. She's bubbly and high energy, which I consider a good sign for the session. By that time it's been 24 hours since I left home so I need a shower, spend a good 5 minutes in there before we start. Stella has a significant caesarean scar and breastfeeding wear and tear but I won't hold that against a woman. When we start, she gives a really good BJ followed by 69. I then put her in D4 and let loose my western world frustrations. She makes the right amount of noise for my taste, not fake and not excessive, just right. I'm tired as a whole so we move to massage. It sucks. I lay her down and show her what to do (I dated a Portuguese lady once who did it as her job, not sure why I let her go cause now I've hit 40 I need that in my life), which gets her real moist and me hard again so while she's laying on her stomach I slide it in from behind with her legs still together and start pounding. She gives good pushback as well. Really good session, fun girl. She asked what I was doing that night, and if I wanted to hang but I was spent and had an advance booking. Are $250 for an hour.
As I head down Amanda is doing a presentation for another guy, and boy I wish I'd waited. Now that is a woman who ID throw my wallet at. The other guy obviously takes her but I check with the receptionist and she's in tomorrow. Luckily my boy got Glacya's number. He asks her about Amanda while we head to Tabacaria National. While smoking Donna Flor and Alonso Menendez robusto's and drinking rum Glacya and Amanda agree with him are $800 for pernoite. Note, if you like cigars I's recommend Tabacaria national. It's near the clinicia's, Iago speaks English and service is great. He says they also do a grill around 9 pm for punters. We stash up some puro's, and around 3:30 head back to Prime.
Prime now has 13 girls. Good lineup for my tastes but the girls are all pequana. Some a little too much, but a solid lineup. A Forista sat next to us speaks English and we have a quick chat. He never goes clubs, just samples clinicia girls and arranges pernoite. Are $200 per hour at first then when the relationship is built, he's gets discounts. I like the method as the clinicia girls are my speed but 4 days is not enough time to really get this in motion. I go to the receptionist to call Anna and she has extended her session with her current client, as is her prerogative. She really must have not liked my joke about her dress. Jade (pronounced Jaj) has caught my eye so I'm not disappointed for long. The local forista looks at me as I go up and says I won't regret it. I don't know if it was fortune or if he secretly works there but useful encounter none the less. Jaj is amazing! Tall, smooth, Middle Eastern features, furious energy. Had to ask her to slow down a couple times. BJ real slobbery, massage was better, she enjoyed my hands on / in her and the D4 was heavenly. She's clearly has kids form the feel of the P but that body was divine. I have no regrets and have her number but unlikely I'll have time to schedule anything. My buddy waited for me as he likes his girls thick and they were ALL super slim at Prime. Are $230 for the hour.
We head back to the hotel to check in. I've now had 4 showers in 5 hours so quite fresh and I've got Kira coming over. Found her on SPLove before it stopped letting me access it. Everything about her is my type and we've been talking for weeks before I arrived. Note, most Brazilians seem to prefer spontaneous contact. Call or message and get booking. One even told me to wait till I'm on ground and we can talk then. We have agreed are $550 for the hour, not cost efficient and I was worried about how a lot of new GP's pay for professional pics, advertise on MClass or ClubModel and ask for are $500 with only so so service (see GPGUIA reviews) but Kira's reviews were good and again, she is my perfect type. All I can say is, money well spent. She arrives on time, which is impressive enough, stays for closer to 2 hours, and is damn good at what she does. She made me dance (no small feat), sang a little, drank some beer, let me rub all over her with Ayurveda massage oil, then did the same to me. Fantastic BJ, 69, titwank. I basically kissed every part of her body. She finally got on top, rode me like I was a racehorse then I took over positions before we finished in missionary. I'm literally ready to head home it was so good. We will meet again in two days. Dinner then another 2 hours at the hotel and I can't wait.
Went to dinner at Fogo de Chao Jardins after and ate myself into a meat coma. Such good cuts! After 3 caipirinhas I was pretty much flat. My buddy had arranged a Photo girl, thick, as is his preference to come over for are $500 pernoite. I thought it was too good to be true and warned him as such. We ubered back to hotel, as I was on my last legs and with a bad knee. We waited in reception for his girl. She was actually nice. He had video called her earlier and was pleased and the reality matched up so up they went straight to the room. I had another caipirinha and then headed to bed. I've woken up to him sending pics of her in different positions at 3 am so he clearly had a good time. He's a force of nature that one.
Overall, really good day. Despite it being the big city it was all at a speed that I liked and the two clinicias are definitely worth a visit. One of my pre-arranged Photo girls had disappeared (blessing in disguise most likely) and another only responded to my messages at 4 pm while I was in Moema so we will try to reschedule for today. Will try either Kin or Indy Spa today. Glacya and Amanda are booked for tonight. My buddy negotiated them down to are $700 for the pernoite and they agreed. Glacya literally wrote, "You know you have a good deal right?" I chuckled. Ate Manha.
Omicron Gamma
02-11-22, 10:28
Rovnak has posted some great advice for finding Brazilian escorts circa 2019. He and I had some discussions on this very topic here on the Sao Paulo forum.
I have always strongly advised against this idea that you could just shop for escorts looking for the best on-line photos. This is true anywhere in the world.I cut and pasted those posts from Rovnak and saved them in my notes folder while planning this trip. Not seen him post for a while, but his contributions were much appreciated. I think I made the mistake a lot of 1st timers to SP make and that's to plan too much. I treated Photofakes and Private55 as sure things where as actually, once you get a presentation in a clinicia you are not thinking about Cleo from Santo Amaro anymore.
I have not even need to a club yet but have the feeling there is a LOT more yet to come from SP. Lucky I have to come back later this year.
Axel Heyst
02-11-22, 15:11
I think Rio is more similar to BKK than SP does.I was only comparing the relationship between BKK & Pat to the relationship between SP & RJ. The big city, financial hub to the essentially resort beach town. Actually if I were to compare SP to any place I would compare the Moema Clinica daytime action to Singapore's Geylang Casas and the Boate nightlife experience to the Jakarta lounge / bordello scene found in clubs like Malio / Malioboro and the former Alexis Hotel. There are dissimilarities too, obviously.
RJ, on the other hand is pretty unique. I don't know of any place quite like it. Pattaya and RJ are on 2 different levels.
SamaRiding
02-11-22, 17:11
Hi mongers,
Expect my detail report coming soon, but I will be ion cafe-photo today (Wednesday) night and to Scandello (Thursday) night. Respond to this message is someone want to hangout and we can arrange a dress code. This is going to be my second visit to Scandello.
Cheers. L.How was cafe photo?
I heard the club is very nice though the few local reports on the girls were not encouraging. It has been on my list to visit but not have not had the chance to yet since other boate have taken priorities.
Thanks.
Axel Heyst
02-11-22, 18:38
Can someone help explain the difference between a clinica, boate, terma, an prives? If you read the forum trip reports carefully you will find the answer to your question. But here is a quick cliff notes summary:
Clinicas. Basically the same thing as a BKK oily massage parlor. Customer walks in, is shown the available girls, picks one, and goes upstairs. 240 br all inclusive price for room and 60 minutes of sex. Clinicas offer the best bang for your buck. RTFF for more info.
Prives. RJ's version of Clinicas ie oily massage parlors except Prives are mostly located in downtown RJ office buildings. I prefer Clinicas. RTFF for more.
Termas. Are bars with in-house girls available for sex upstairs. Total bill includes entry fee, the girl (if one is chosen, drinks if purchased, and the room). The customer pays his bill before leaving. They are great. RTFF.
Boates. Are a combination bar, lounge, nightclub, restaurant, and bordello. The girls, however, are independent contractors. Customers are billed for the entry fee and bar tab. Sexual Arrangements are made separately with individual girls, so prices may vary. Nice rooms are available in-house or you can leave with your girl for some other place for the same fee. Boates are my favorite venue because they have the best selection and the largest number of girls, but they are the most expensive alternative in SP. RTFF trip reports.
SamaRiding
02-11-22, 20:38
Omicron.
You met the infamous Hannah redhead at Prime. She is one of the better English speakers in all the clinicas. She is hot but a little thicker than I like and has silicone. Her schedule is booked full usually days in advance and she is rarely in any presentations. I try to do a session with her every visit to SP also. Though her sessions are great, she can get tired and less energy later in the day. Once I tried to book her a week ahead and she was fully booked by her regulars. That is like 10 sessions in a day. She mentioned to me previously she likes it when she knows all the guys already and gets nervous with new guys. She probably didn't know who you were and was more comfortable extending the last session. Unfortunately she only works in the CLínica and doesn't share her numbers nor do outcalls. She has an outside life that she wants to keep separate.
I cut and pasted those posts from Rovnak and saved them in my notes folder while planning this trip. Not seen him post for a while, but his contributions were much appreciated. I think I made the mistake a lot of 1st timers to SP make and that's to plan too much. I treated Photofakes and Private55 as sure things where as actually, once you get a presentation in a clinicia you are not thinking about Cleo from Santo Amaro anymore.
I have not even need to a club yet but have the feeling there is a LOT more yet to come from SP. Lucky I have to come back later this year.Planning is a good thing. Everyone has different styles and venues they dig. Of course, one could just go to Scandallo every night and be assured of hooking up with a hot Brasileira who will perform at a high standard compared to the rest of the globe.
You wouldn't be the first one thrown off by the Brazilian eye candy sites. Many members have had some decent luck with just point & click searches on these sites, but eventually their luck runs out.
You have also seen the clinicas can have varied talent. Most of the clinicas here are from fairly affluent areas of Sao Paulo. I assure you there are some pretty nasty clinicas around the city.
Rovnak's floating around. I speak with him by way of PM occasionally.
RJ, on the other hand is pretty unique. I don't know of any place quite like it. Pattaya and RJ are on 2 different levels.Oh for sure. Metro Rio de Janeiro has over 13 million people. Even ignoring talent that migrates to Rio, there is a lot of homegrown talent.
Even Brazilians will have differing views on the cultural importance of Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo. Rio was the capital of Brazil until 1960. Unfortunately, much of Rio's colonial past has been knocked down by newer development. I think RJ-SP debates are somewhat analogous to LOS Angeles-New York debates.
One last point about Rio's tourism dynamic. You will find some attractive and unattached female tourists in the Rio beach areas if you want to try out your game. Do unattached female tourists really go to Pattaya?
Can someone help explain the difference between a clinica, boate, terma, an prives? I always read this forum an the Rio forum an always get thrown off.
I'm from LOS Angeles an make random trips to Hong Kong in Tijuana. Which one of those 4 club types most closely resembles Hong Kong? An I'm not sure I'd even have a preference, I just want to have the ability to scout the talent an pick whichever suits my needs.
I'm trying to plan a trip this May, an trying to map all this out.
Thanks!The one that comes close to HK in size and selection will be Scandallo except the girls are dressed formally. It is more luxurious and provide the service you would expect from a high end place. HK is at the low end for service and facility.
For mongering purpose and not considering the sauna, termas and boates are similar but boates usually have much larger club area.
Clinicas are like massage places but don't provide massage, it depends on you and the girl you choose. They usually have better facility, a waiting area, room with shower, the shortest time you get is 30 minutes for about 120 and up.
I don't know exactly what is a prive because there are many other venues. Based on my observation, prives are cheaper in general and offer service starting from 15 minutes or 20 minutes for around 50 more or less. The facilities usually are not very good. I guess a distinction one can make is clinicas always provide clean bed sheet while prives normally don't.
There are many variations that are not easy to describe but that should give you a general idea.
All prices are in BRL.
Great 1st day report OG (Omicron Gamma) !!
Any web link to Kira on SPLOVE?
EverythingBlue
02-12-22, 02:04
As I head down Amanda is doing a presentation for another guy, and boy I wish I'd waited. Now that is a woman who ID throw my wallet at. The other guy obviously takes her but I check with the receptionist and she's in tomorrow. Luckily my boy got Glacya's number. He asks her about Amanda while we head to Tabacaria National. While smoking Donna Flor and Alonso Menendez robusto's and drinking rum Glacya and Amanda agree with him are $800 for pernoite. Note, if you like cigars I's recommend Tabacaria national. It's near the clinicia's, Iago speaks English and service is great. He says they also do a grill around 9 pm for punters. We stash up some puro's, and around 3:30 head back to Prime. Great report, thanks for writing!
I saw Amanda during my last 2 trips. I got her number too and was supposed to schedule a pernoite but there was always another girl I wanted to bang and never got around to it. I wish I would've tried to see her more and ask for BBFS, I think she could've agreed. I'm not sure if she changed her number, but the one I have on file hasn't been active on WhatsApp for awhile. Let us know how it goes with your friend! Have fun!
Omicron Gamma
02-12-22, 03:03
Great 1st day report OG (Omicron Gamma) !!
Any web link to Kira on SPLOVE?Here is the SPLove link.
https://splove.com.br/acompanhante/sao-paulo/kira/
It hasn't worked for me for weeks so here is the GPGuia link.
https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=232296&sid=fdac42c682cd5966adcdda9c28e92d36
Enjoy!
Omicron Gamma
02-12-22, 08:54
Not a bad day but nowhere near as good as day one. Started the day with coffee at Bella Paulista before heading to my dentist appointment. Unfortunately my teeth were worse than I thought so the appointment took 2 1/2 hours and finished at 12:30. I was still in local anaesthetic so headed to Skye and had cocktails with my buddy. We needed to do some shopping and also wanted cigars so instead of Clinicia Kin we headed to Avenida Paulista and then Tabacaria Roma. Tabacaria Roma is more expensive than Tabacaria National but that is not surprising due to the location. There is an English speaking maestro there. My buddy reached out to confirm with Glacya and Amanda but Amanda had cancelled due to another forista offering her more than are $700 per noite. I'm pissed but I have long learned to not sweat over what I cannot control. Glacya is a gem.
And is sending me pics of other girls to bring along at the same rate but none are lighting my fire and I don't feel the need to force it. What I didn't know at the time was that this occurrence was a harbinger for the rest of my day.
I immediately messaged Paulinha, a GP from photo I had vetted before arriving and she agreed to come at 6 pm. Price magically now are $300.it's 4 pm and my mouth / face is only now feeling normal and I've not nutted yet so I don't argue. After a nice Donna Flor robusta and the happy hour at Camarada Camarao I head back to the hotel, stock up on drinks and wait for Paulinha. She is as per the pics, a Kiara Cole lookalike, super slim and blonde. The messaging was cool but in person it is strictly business. No oral without (I should have read the advert more carefully) and no pushback to my thrusts. It wasn't bad, was just business. It's a shame cause I loved her look; half model and half gamer chic but it's the game we play.
By now it's 7 pm and I have nothing left, so I say my goodbyes and am asleep within minutes! I often get a bit of travel sickness so nothing new but I was desperate for sleep. Woke up at 10 pm, feeling much better. My buddy is with Glacya at Bar Athena and having a great time. Nice girl, not for me, but perfect for him. When I get to the bar he is inviting her to Rio with us. This guy has a horseshoe up his ass cause it was the same in Bogota. First girl he meets gives him GFE, discounts and looks pretty damn good! We eat, drink, take shots and as fun as it is, I'm the third wheel and I hate a cockblocker so I make my excuses to head to Casarao down the same street. He insists on coming so I get Glacya to help me get girls. I didn't know then what I know now.
Get to Casarao, and it's 60/40 girls to guys. There is someone for everyone here. I'm more of a slow mover, scoping the scene and then making my move. My buddy is a flood of life energy. He is calling over every girl he wants to smash and introducing her to me. I'm trying to make him fall back but he's wasted. Even Glacya is now worried he will ditch her for another girl (he will, but not till tomorrow) and is not smiling anymore. I get her to talk, apply the bro code and get her to chill. I see a Japa and move in but she gives me a bullcrap excuse about needing to talk to a friend. I hope it's not my skin shade, could easily be my size but it is what it is. My buddy brings me a Carioca mulatta that isn't my speed but I'm polite. He buys her a drink and she sits on my lap. I know I need to shut it down as I have no interest so I make my excuses. Also, she has unshaven legs, and that's an auto fail in my book. I see another Japa that is my fantasy come true. Then my buddy tries to take over, convinced he can get her for free! At this point. I'm literally breathing fire! She of course, walks off when his best offer is are $700 for the night! The girl knows how fine she is. And me and him talk some home truths after! We cool, but he needs to fall back a bit.
I go to walk around the club and I see a Zendaya looking babe and a super fine Branca. I had a choice, and I made the wrong one! I followed Zendaya (Rebecca) down and sat next to her. We talk, then agreed on are $600 for 3 hours (I knew I didn't have a full session in me) so this seemed right. She pushes me to her place and tbh, I should have seen the red flag! I insist on the hotel and In total it's are $700 including takeout. Glacya talks to her, assures me she is fun, we laugh in the Uber and all head to my room for drinks. When my buddy and Glacya leave to go smash she drops the okie doke! She does not feel comfortable, she is scared, etc, etc.
I've seen this one before in Kech but I'm also aware that me and my buddy are bringing girls in regularly and don't want to cockblock him by risking a scene so offer her are $50 for an Uber to leave. She counters with are $250 for the 30 minutes. I don't even hold back the laughter and tell her to call the police. She then says I should call her an Uber and give her are $100. She's got neck, I'll give her that!
I tell her to leave, give her the are $50 and shake my head. I'm down are $150 but it could be me worse and These are the risks we take in the game we play. I'm sightseeing with my academic friend tomorrow and he does not partake in the hobby so it may be that we only do Scandello or Casarao again at night, but it's all good. 'Unfortunately' for me, my dental treatment requires two more trips to SP this year. There will be more good days than bad.
OG.
Omicron Gamma
02-12-22, 09:16
Great report, thanks for writing!
I saw Amanda during my last 2 trips. I got her number too and was supposed to schedule a pernoite but there was always another girl I wanted to bang and never got around to it. I wish I would've tried to see her more and ask for BBFS, I think she could've agreed. I'm not sure if she changed her number, but the one I have on file hasn't been active on WhatsApp for awhile. Let us know how it goes with your friend! Have fun!I've lurked in this forum since 2015 and gained a lot do I'm happy to give back anything useful. Amanda took a higher offer from another punter and as I didn't have her number I couldn't counter offer. I'll hopefully get to make it right, if not this trip then the next!
Omicron Gamma
02-13-22, 20:12
Day 3 Report.
After the nonsense of the night before I was looking forward to seeing my local friend. My buddy was still with Glacya and having a time of it so I left him to it. While I went to independence park and the municipal market, he was sleeping and shagging on repeat. Glacya eventually left around 1 pm and he paid her 800 including a tip. His eyes were clear so no more talk of marriage and her coming to Rio. But that's what the Brazilian bunda can do to you.
My local friend lives near guarulhos, so we headed there for a late lunch. A restaurant named Comodoro. It was amazing, hundreds of locals including many club worthy girls watching the world club cup and great food buffet style. 3 drinks and food ran me 100. There is life outside the big city and it's amazing!
As much as it was good to see an old friend, I hadn't had some P for close to 24 hours so made my excuses, called my buddy and we met at Tangara Spa, around 3:30. Ok lineup, not great. Loads of locals and girls milling about. Quinn (pequana mulatta, beautiful face, probably does drugs but is so pretty naturally that she still caught my eye) was the only one I was feeling but I was intentionally trying to find something different. We decided to leave and Quinn calls out to me as I do. Luckily, fate was about to bless me in abundance.
We decide to go to Clinicia Indy but Uber says we have a 9 minute wait. 5 minutes later Quinn comes out to buy food at the taverna across the street. I run over, buy her stuff for her (10 Reis), and get her number. Indy has 12 guys about and only 3 in presentation. Only 1 doable. Saturday must be GP rush hour as well as feijoada day! Not impressed we head back to Athena restaurant to eat. By the time we get there I've agreed with Quinn to meet at 11:30 pm, 500 for 3 hours.
After food we head back to hotel, I sleep 7 - 10 pm then freshen up. Confirm with Quinn, then go buy drinks and treats. She's been at the clinic for a whole day and it was hot as hell today so best to play the art of seduction then a ground and pound. She arrives late as is typical, 12:45. I give her a drink, some chocolate and let her take off her shoes. She is bubbly and flirty so I figure getting TLN isn't an issue and my buddy wants to go back to Casarao. She agrees to come help him find a good one. Miniso sells good fragrances for peanuts so I sprayed her with one, and gave to her. A long DFK follows. As soon as we get outside she lights up a joint. I want to join, but I also need my job. It smelt like some good stuff. This girl is party ready!
Casarao is 60/40 men tonight but the selection is no less excellent. I see the idiot from last night but I'm having too much fun to give a damn. Me.
And Quinn set up by the bar while my buddy goes on patrol. Quinn goes to smoke, brings a 'friend' back, I get her number. She does this again, and before I ask she has WhatsApp'd me the other girls number, Laura. The dupla crossed my mind. My buddy eventually settles on a spinner, Julia, that well, I wouldn't. We have VERY different taste! They agree 600 plus 100 exit fee. She then insists on money upfront! Hell no. She storms off and when next I see her he is holding back tears. Quinn meanwhile has just ordered her 4th drink! I take her card and give her a factory reset. I decide to head back and start the action as I'm not sure how long my buddy will be and it's now 3:30. As we leave Julia is sticking her tongue down some old geezers throat; business is business. Total damage, 300.
Me and Quinn get shawarma's across from the club, and head back. She immediately strips, we eat and get to it. I make her hold a BJ for 10 minutes then move to 69 then reverse cowgirl then D4. I know she's tired but she's a trooper and can really twerk on the the. All throughout I'm taking every chance to smother her in the massage oil. I finish hard and we drop. Sleep incoming. She asks if it's ok to stay even though 3 hours are up. I couldn't possibly say no. Haha. I then hear my door at 5 am, my buddy has come back with Julia. An English speaker had helped him negotiate 50% upfront and she came back. He needs condoms (and she's happily waving at me. I go back and wake up Quinn for round two then pass out.
Next morning I awake at 7 for round 3. Rubbing her back she lifts her to top leg forward and I slide the tip in from behind before she jumps up and says camisinha. So close. Haha. We have one more round around 11 and she leaves at midday. I had fun so drop her 600,850 total including her drinking like a sailor. The girls is 25, so very naturally beautiful and a very fun time. 1 more day then Rio incoming.
OG.
HumanBeing1
02-14-22, 01:27
I'll be in SP for about a week. A lot of info here. Is there a map of the clinicas or a guide to what is convenient around Ave Paulista? Bit overwhelming here.
Like I see the gparena page but how do I know if a place is near where we are at without searching each one individually?
Like if anyone could just recommend a few prives/clinicas anywhere between Centro and pinhieros that'd be much appreciated. Ideally a spot we can see a lineup a have a quick easy in and out
I'll be in SP for about a week. A lot of info here. Is there a map of the clinicas or a guide to what is convenient around Ave Paulista? Bit overwhelming here.
Like I see the gparena page but how do I know if a place is near where we are at without searching each one individually?
Like if anyone could just recommend a few prives/clinicas anywhere between Centro and pinhieros that'd be much appreciated. Ideally a spot we can see a lineup a have a quick easy in and outFor SP, I think you need to check GPGuia. I just looked, you only need to check the city of the listing of the first page, probably the top 10 entries. Abbbora is on the second page.
Omicron Gamma
02-14-22, 13:17
A few things about Julia from Casarao I forgot to mention in yesterday's report. 1. She squirts. 2. She says she is 27 but to me looked closer to 37.3. She was really annoying my buddy for tips before she left but by the end of Day 4 was basically insisting on coming back for TLN at the same price, 600.
We were both wrecked today so it's good we spent the day with my local friend at his place. He laid out a great spread, we drank caipirinhas, and had a good time talking on his balcony. We then toured Liberdade and areas around the city. São Paulo is truly fascinating, with astounding wealth and poverty almost seamlessly intertwined.
Me and my buddy both decided to take it easy today, and I had already decided to repeat with Kira. She studies and aspires to be a singer so her phone can be off for extended periods but she always came through. He was trying to decide between Glacya or Julia. He went with Glacya in the end.
Kira has a car and picks me up around 7:30 for dinner. She chooses the sushi bar in The Renaissance hotel, by coincidence she claims. She offers to leave shortly after we sit as it's "muito chique" but I'm cool. And I wanted to scope the talent that is known to lie in wait at the reception bar. We talk as best we can over Google translate (we have a lot in common in terms of life views and ethics), I watch the first half of the game (Falcons fan so don't judge me) and she eats. I'm still full from lunch so have tea. She actually cancels food to not over eat so that's a good sign. Really quality sushi as you'the expect, 200 in total. I see two GP's in the reception, a fine Branca in a turquoise dress talking to a monger (not sure if he is ISG) and a blonde 'mature' one in jeans, seemingly well worn. Kira is surprised to find out GP's work in the Renaissance. If she starts hanging out there you are all welcome.
We head back to hotel and by now she's burping out loud and giggling like a schoolgirl, so I know I'm in for a good time. We shower together; she loved this foaming bath gel I have (As did Quinn who took an almost 12 minute shower yesterday!) and afterward jumps on the bed and asks if I will massage her now? I'm wondering who is paying who but this girl is perfection to me so I get to work. By the time I'm done I'm exhausted as I'm in terrible shape already but she takes over and the rest is the stuff of my dreams, especially her getting on top to ride, squatting then twerking on the the.
We finish, shower again and she leaves around 10:30 pm. She gives me her real name and number and if all goes to plan we agree to meet again in August. 500 very well spent reis.
I go meet my buddy and Glacya in UP bar for a few drinks before bed. She asks why I don't like her when she likes me so much? I can be a mix of laid back and serious in public which can come off as offish so I get this a lot but I ain't trying to deal with all that. I make my excuses and head back to the hotel for a good sleep. I'm writing this over coffee before heading to the airport and they are still upstairs at it. He paid her 500. Viva São Paulo!
OG.
Axel Heyst
02-14-22, 15:23
Good Stuff Omicron G. I like your writing style and I am enjoying the read. It looks like you are having a great time. I sure you will enjoy RJ as well. I have 2 months left before I embark on my Brazil trip #3. I have my favorite girls lined up for reunions over my 1st weekend back. After that I will be on the hunt looking for new. I can't wait.
I've passed my past 2 outings at Casarao. I had 2 girls on both visits for 200 and 250 Reais each.
At those rates, no way I'll pulling out of Scandallo anymore.
Scandallo is more glamorous. And they have more and arguably better looking girls. But the difference is so slight it's miniscule.
I'll just visit Scandallo from time to time for the ambience and all the eye candy. But the rates usually kill my boner.
I personally think there's an inverse correlation between good sex and high rates.
Which brings me to the issue at hand. While at Casarao earlier today, I noticed a bar called Balneario American Bar right next to it.
There were hot girls outside and inside the entrance. And the staff outside were inviting me to go in.
Anyone has any experience with this or any other such bar near Casarao?
Omicron Gamma
02-16-22, 16:42
First off, I had a great time. I was reluctant to come at first as I love the laid back vibes of Rio and São Paulo just 'feels' harder to penetrate. All I can say it's been totally worth it. For a newbie, Moema seems good. Prime, 57 and Enjoy are all close by, lots of online options, great local restaurants including a Fogo de Chao and if it's your speed, Tabacaria National for a good charuto.
It's been said countless times but learning a bit of Portuguese helps greatly. SP, and the other parts of Brazil I've been to are full of moments. A glance, a smile or even a chance interaction. But without Portuguese you miss so much. I only know about 100 words but telling a girl she is beautiful, asking what she likes or clarifying what you want (goes a long way in the trade we ply. I stopped practicing in 2016 but I can find my 15 mins a day on Duolingo in advance of my next trip.
I can't speak for everyone but ATM's gave us hell here withdrawing cash. And cash is king in Brazil. Only Banco 24 Hora ATM's were reliable for gettting money out and luckily we found one round the corner from the hotel. Getting around with Uber is a cinch but there is lots of big city traffic. My local friend mainly takes the train. Either way, getting to where you need to be to do what you want to do should be no problem. One of my Uber Drivers spoke English and I've got his number for next time. We are definitely going to hang!
You can really play the game your way here. I never made it to Scandallo but the high value placed on it by senior members is for a reason. Casarao was amazing and was more than enough for me and my buddy, despite the con-artist I picked up. I do wish I'the tried Bomboa. I was also perfectly happy with the clinicia and home visit combo. Online is hit and miss. YMMV.
If money is a concern (it would have been for me last year before a recent promotion) then go Rio. The hairy legged Carioca from Casarao explained that she left Rio cause she will make more money here in SP. And local forista's complain a lot about the rising prices on GPGUIA. It's better for your budget to pay are $150 at Bel Prazer or are $170 at Massagem Tijuca than are $250 at Enjoy here in SP. Sessioning in clubs is also cheaper in Rio. I've met some guys here who only go to 4 x4 and then do 30 minutes, night after night. I also been able to get a Terma girl back for TLN for 500. Of course at the high end (Barra VIP's for example), your going to spend. But I know that money was an issue for me for a long time so. There you go.
Last thing for me is the women themselves. While beauty is everywhere, it takes time to unlock true GFE. The drinks, chocolate, perfume, massage or luxury shower gel is all part of my 'Be nice to the ladies' mantra. Brazilian women get a lot of shit from the country and their men so they don't need it from Gringo's too. Don't be surprised if they are cool on you at the start. My buddy has a different, party hard approach which works for him but we were both really happy with our time here and finding girls on our level.
If I had the choice (which I do) I'the go Bogota before São Paulo in terms of cities but there is so much more of a variety of women (more beautiful on average IMHO) here that you can't but find something and have a good time. Enjoy.
OG.
Which brings me to the issue at hand. While at Casarao earlier today, I noticed a bar called Balneario American Bar right next to it. There were hot girls outside and inside the entrance. And the staff outside were inviting me to go in. Anyone has any experience with this or any other such bar near Casarao?This joint is a little shit hole right next to Casarao. I never would have gone to it except for the fact that I arrived at Casarao before it had opened, so I decided to take a peek next door just to cool my heels and have a drink before going to Casarao when it opened. What transpired was my best anal session of the entire trip! Upon entry into the club, I was approached in short order by a cute, 25 year-old morena from Belem going by Camila. She was joined by her very aggressive friend who I was not attracted to. I made it clear that Camila was the one I liked, and the friend eventually left and latched onto another target (who she fucked). Turning my attention to Camila, I decided to session when she agreed to an hour long session with anal for only 200 reals! I was concerned over what the room would look like, but hey you only live once! This girl is cute, and she's going to let me fuck her in the butt for 200 reals! So we get down there and sure enough it's a really shitty room with a tiny, unkempt shower and a mat on a kind of raised bed (attached to wall) for doing the deed.
Well I decided not to give a damn! I was going to take that girl's dirty little butt hole in that dirty little room for cheap! Yes sir! The session started out great with a BBBJ, then 69, then more BBBJ followed by reverse cowgirl and standard cowgirl. We went into some doggy until Camila asked me sweetly if I was ready to enter her "culito" (asshole). You're damn straight I'm ready! I gently entered Camila's anus orifice before starting to give her a good hard butt fucking. She was on all fours, but I was ramming it into her ass so hard that she went face down and booty up! With that, I got up on my feet and squatted over Camila's upturned fanny and began to pound the daylights out of her ass whack, whack, whack, whack, whack against her butt cheeks! Now Camila began to cry out as I smashed her asshole in! I continued to ass pound until she went flat down onto her belly, still crying out. I kept going like a crazed butt fucker until finally I creamed Camila's cornhole and collapsed onto her back! The two of us got showered up, and then left the club together to go eat at a Japanese restaurant down the street. We exchanged e-mail addy's and phone numbers and agreed to meet again. Total damage was 200 reals plus a 10 reals entrada fee (good for 1 beer) and dinner for two at a modest restaurant (also paid her like 10 reals for a taxi back to the club). Was totally worth it to me, especially since I expected nothing from what was a little shit hole of a place!
I did get together with Camila one more time, the second time being at my hotel. I actually had gone back to Balneario with the plan to get "take-out". It didn't seem so dirty the second time around LOL! But still, it couldn't compare to my hotel. The management agreed to allow Camila to leave for some time at my hotel, and if I recall correctly, I paid a 150 reals take-out fee. Camila's charge for her time was 500 reals plus taxi. Back at my hotel, I concluded that she was decidedly less attractive in the full light of my room hahaha! But she still looked good enough for fucking, which we did 3 times, including using one of my super thin Sagami condoms from Japan. We both moaned and gasped at how good it felt and marveled at what was a bareback-like sexual feeling! We took some time for sleeping and eating too. That is, in between Camila going reverse cowgirl and licking and sucking on my nuts! Again, I regret not the cost and believe the time spent was worth every real. When you find a good one at a good price a monger has to go for it!
SamaRiding
02-16-22, 19:19
The Cane definitely had better luck than me. I also stopped by in during a visit to casarao. But ouch, it was empty with a few overweight old ladies. Luckily it was a very cheap entry that included a beer. It's not a clean place. Down the beer and left. No hassle. Definitely can spend a few minutes checking out this place and maybe you will be as lucky as Cane.
SamaRiding
02-16-22, 19:31
Regarding omicron G discussion on SP costs. The more well known clinicas in Moema like Prime, 57, and Enjoy are actually on the high end of cost of clinicas, around 250 r. There are clinicas that are cheaper like Indy and Moah which are 150 r for one hour. And quality and service of these girls are the same. There are also many prive in SP which are even cheaper.
Though I have not tried these so the average beauty and service is suppose to be much lower than the clinicas. But I am sure you find exceptions if you look hard enough. My limited understanding is that prive are in apartment building or taller building, while clinicas are in stand alone buildings.
Back in SP and I'm staying in my favorite Airbnb in Vila Olimpia. I arrived last Friday and decided to meet up with girls I met from Tinder first. I explored Tinder in Rio and basically getting the same results here in SP. None of the women I express interest in respond back but I still get a lot of messages from women who vary from 'no thanks' to 'good lord' . Sadly 80% of them that message are single mommas or divorce's with kids. I'm experimenting with Bumble and its the same but Bumble ladies are definitely looking for more serious than casual but I'm finding more women with no kids on Bumble than on tinder. I don't know why but I'm fascinated by the online dating game here.
Modern Momma is a great restaurant in Itaim Bibi to go for dates if you like that vibe. Lunch or dinner never fails there. Casaria in Jardins is great to. IMHO they are good places to set the mood before going back to your place. I consider these restaurants wingmen LOL.
Lotus - 20 minute walk from my Airbnb. Never been before and I tried Izzy after selecting her from the tablet. As soon as she walks in she squats down and starts the BJ. A very sexual woman who aims to please. She kept the BJ going for a long time.
Palms- 10 minute walk from my Airbnb. Really facilites and I went with Arizona. Similar to Lotus where you select from a tablet. She told me that they have to dispose of the condoms carefully and that sex there is technically not legal? I'm not sure 100% (nothing seemed seedy or secret about the place) and I did not press further but we did exchange WhatsApp. After we finished I watched her wash it out an wrap it up for discreet disposal.
Clinica Miruna. We live in a very small fucking world. I arrive and sitting with the receptionist is a girl I've been chatting up on Tinder. I noticed her right away but it took her a few seconds to notice me. I didn't bother with the line up. We had to shower together for her to feel comfortable. Well that was my strategy anyway. I don't recall us speaking about her work om Tinder so it did not matter to me but she was a little embarrassed it seemed. Ill def repeat with her but only at Miruna.
Plan on returning to Scandallo and trying Casarao and Bomboa for the first time.
Internash1
02-16-22, 21:31
Regarding omicron G discussion on SP costs. The more well known clinicas in Moema like Prime, 57, and Enjoy are actually on the high end of cost of clinicas, around 250 r. There are clinicas that are cheaper like Indy and Moah which are 150 r for one hour. And quality and service of these girls are the same. There are also many prive in SP which are even cheaper.
Though I have not tried these so the average beauty and service is suppose to be much lower than the clinicas. But I am sure you find exceptions if you look hard enough. My limited understanding is that prive are in apartment building or taller building, while clinicas are in stand alone buildings.Just a heads-up for everyone, 57 has a special for us board guys. Our rate is 150. And the quality and scene there is top-notch. The host is very friendly and she speaks English for those that aren't Portuguese fluent.
Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema, So Paulo.
Steve 9696
02-16-22, 22:03
Just a heads-up for everyone, 57 has a special for us board guys. Our rate is 150. And the quality and scene there is top-notch. The host is very friendly and she speaks English for those that aren't Portuguese fluent.
Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema, So Paulo.I've never tried 57. Do I understand correctly that it's not really a Clinica but more like a bar / Boate but with daytime hours? I think I would like that. Can you clarify with firsthand knowledge? And oh how do you get the discount. Just mention ISG? Or were u just kidding?
I've never tried 57. Do I understand correctly that it's not really a Clinica but more like a bar / Boate but with daytime hours? I think I would like that. Can you clarify with firsthand knowledge? And oh how do you get the discount. Just mention ISG? Or were u just kidding?It's a Clinica with a boate / bar and works like a clinica before 8 PM or around that time. The girls sit inside boate during daytime. You can have a lineup or just talk to the girls in the boate. After 8 PM, it worls like a boate.
Hey team,
Where does someone get bud for recreational use only. I do like the hookah spots in Moema. But no bud places.
Thanks.
I've never tried 57. Do I understand correctly that it's not really a Clinica but more like a bar / Boate but with daytime hours? I think I would like that. Can you clarify with firsthand knowledge? And oh how do you get the discount. Just mention ISG? Or were u just kidding?If we're talking Chanes 57, I went to it once a few years ago. It didn't work for me. Here's the report that I did (of course things may have changed since then regarding optics):
Chanes 57.
Whenever I visit Brazil, I always like to mix in something new with the tried and true. That's why I had to try out Chanes 57 Bar and Nightclub in Sampa. I had heard a lot about this place, especially shortly after it opened, but this was my first chance to stop by and have a look see for myself. I didn't expect much really. That had nothing to do with the place per se, but more with the fact that it was on a Monday night, which is typically a weak night for line-ups, I don't care where in the world you are. But Monday was where I was willing to put Chanes 57 in the rotation, making sure that I would be saving the proven best for last.
There was no entrance fee or consumo fee. When you arrive, the girl in reception will give you a slip that has all of the prices for the various types of drinks on it. You write your name on the top of that slip, then you take it and go upstairs to where the bar is. As you order drinks and food throughout the night, the bartender will note on the slip what you consumed over the evening. When you leave, you present the slip to the receptionist downstairs, she totals up your bill, and then you pay.
I got there around 8 pm on a Monday night, and stayed for about 2 1/2 hours. I would say that there could not have been more than 15 girls on hand tops, with most of them falling in the 5 to 6 range per my standards. Needless to say, since I need at least a 7 out of 10 on my optics scale in order to be enticed to part with my money for a fuck, I did not session with anybody. I did spend a considerable amount of time talking to a girl named "Kris" though. She was very nice and patient. We mostly communicated through Google translate on our smart phones. Bought her a couple of drinks. She pushed for a third, but I said no. Had several Cuba Libres for myself. Ordered an appetizer which we both shared. And then we parted ways. She asked if I wanted to go to the room, but I said no.
When it was all said and done, as I said I chose not to session with anybody, but spent about 275 reals for the evening on food and drink, not including my taxi fares to and from the club. Based on this one experience, I would not return to Chanes 57. The overall condition of the bar area was OK, but I cannot comment on the rooms as I did not go with anybody. And even though it was a Monday, I am doubtful that the line-up would be that much better later on in the week. You just get a "sense" of a place you know, and my sense is that Chanes 57 is not where you go to run up on a bunch of hotties. More like mostly 5's and 6's. There was one mulatta there who was a solid 7 on my scale (maybe higher on somebody else's), but that was it in terms of attractive girls as far as I am concerned. Glad I checked it out though, and now I know for myself about Chanes 57. No need to wonder!
Slow start, but I'm just beginning my friends!
Internash1
02-17-22, 04:24
I've never tried 57. Do I understand correctly that it's not really a Clinica but more like a bar / Boate but with daytime hours? I think I would like that. Can you clarify with firsthand knowledge? And oh how do you get the discount. Just mention ISG? Or were u just kidding?There's a bar / lounge area and a separate area in the back with what looked like arcade games and more lounge area. All the rooms are on the 2nd floor, very clean with a private bathroom. When you first walk in the host is there at the front desk and asks if you would like to see the lineup or hang out at the bar, which I went to the bar and they served me this beer (one of the best beers I've ever had, I can't remember the name but it's got a blue foil around the top of the bottle. I have to go back there to find out. I can't seem to find it anywhere around Brazil so far, and I've been looking). Anyway, just mention to the host you're from the board and it'll be 150, you pay the tab when you're finished and leaving. They accept credit cards plus 20 more, I don't know if it will be 150 after 8 pm.
...I was concerned over what the room would look like, but hey you only live once! This girl is cute, and she's going to let me fuck her in the butt for 200 reals! So we get down there and sure enough it's a really shitty room with a tiny, unkempt shower and a mat on a kind of raised bed (attached to wall) for doing the deed. ... So... even the great ones go slummin' at times...kkkk! Yep, a good pussy (or a-hole your case), goes a long way towards smoothing out a few "boom boom" room intolerances and prejudices.
Been there done that. Had quite a few "Camila's" of my own...kkkk! Good report!
... just mention to the host you're from the board and it'll be 150.Is that for 30 minutes?
Internash1
02-17-22, 07:46
Is that for 30 minutes?No not 30 minutes, it is for 1 hour. Not rushed at all. Pleasant surprise.
Omicron Gamma
02-17-22, 11:59
Just a heads-up for everyone, 57 has a special for us board guys. Our rate is 150. And the quality and scene there is top-notch. The host is very friendly and she speaks English for those that aren't Portuguese fluent.
Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema, So Paulo.Wish I'd gone twice now. Did you try / manage to arrange a follow up with any of the girls?
Internash1
02-17-22, 18:43
Wish I'd gone twice now. Did you try / manage to arrange a follow up with any of the girls?No, I flew out to Belo Horizonte to check it out here. Big mistake coming out here:
No not 30 minutes, it is for 1 hour. Not rushed at all. Pleasant surprise.Thanks, I just checked gpguia. That is the new lower forista price. It appears they have lower their price for a while now. It's now cheaper than Tangra with much better facility.
No, I flew out to Belo Horizonte to check it out here. Big mistake coming out here:Why a big mistake? I'm asking because I just booked a side trip to Belo Horizonte. Not so much to monger, but to check the restaurants and to visit Ouro Preto.
Omicron Gamma
02-17-22, 21:51
No, I flew out to Belo Horizonte to check it out here. Big mistake coming out here:I think I'm with you. Other parts of Brazil I've been to don't have the ease of accessibility for the hobby like Rio / Sao Paulo. I remember some street walkers around Pelourinho / Porto the Barra when in Salvador but it wasn't until I found the right taxi driver that I saw the university girls around Rio Vermelho or the sheer number of GP's in bars like Passagem (if it's still there). The language barrier also increases when you are outside the big 2. Girls on SP tell me Minas and Campo Grande has super beautiful girls and I'm like. WHERE?
Girls on SP tell me Minas and Campo Grande has super beautiful girls and I'm like. WHERE?They're all working in SP, IMHO. LOL!
Girls on SP tell me Minas and Campo Grande has super beautiful girls and I'm like. WHERE?Belo Horizonte (Minas) definitely has beautiful girls. I just wouldn't go there to monger. You have to find the hot girls in the civilian clubs. If you are under 40-45 and have some game, it's fine if you are traveling through. Otherwise, most don't have the time when so many girls are readily available in Sao Paulo and Rio.
TomJohnSt2000
02-18-22, 00:02
I was looking thru some sites and saw this fisting listing and remember this ask. No clue if it's real as that is not my thing but the listing is so particular and links to the girl personal website.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/lilianal-fisting-anal-e-vaginal-puta-anal-id-buytt
Enjoy.Thanks, I'll consider this listing!
Belo Horizonte (Minas) definitely has beautiful girls. I just wouldn't go there to monger. You have to find the hot girls in the civilian clubs. If you are under 40-45 and have some game, it's fine if you are traveling through. Otherwise, most don't have the time when so many girls are readily available in Sao Paulo and Rio.Some of the hottest girls I fucked in Rio were from BH. Made me think about going there. Looks like I made the right decision not to.
That is Great News! Thank you for the info.
Just a heads-up for everyone, 57 has a special for us board guys. Our rate is 150. And the quality and scene there is top-notch. The host is very friendly and she speaks English for those that aren't Portuguese fluent.
Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema, So Paulo.
I met several Beautiful girls from Belo Horizonte. In fact the three that I had spend time with me at my Hotel and one one knock out student that I sent a bus ticket to come spend another week end with me later was from there. Glad to know it is not worth traveling there because I had planned that. Thanks for the info.
Belo Horizonte (Minas) definitely has beautiful girls. I just wouldn't go there to monger. You have to find the hot girls in the civilian clubs. If you are under 40-45 and have some game, it's fine if you are traveling through. Otherwise, most don't have the time when so many girls are readily available in Sao Paulo and Rio.
GoodTimes4444
02-18-22, 06:06
Hello group!
Traveling to SP in April and wondering the best neighborhood to stay in with a combination of safety, good girl scene, good bar / night club scene, and good restaurants. I'd really appreciate some experienced input as I'm trying to book an Airbnb ASAP. Thank you.
Hello group!
Traveling to SP in April and wondering the best neighborhood to stay in with a combination of safety, good girl scene, good bar / night club scene, and good restaurants. I'd really appreciate some experienced input as I'm trying to book an Airbnb ASAP. Thank you.Most new comers to São Paulo often stay in moema or the jardins. Personally I like the lower Augusta in consolacao or republica near centro.
Hello group!
Traveling to SP in April and wondering the best neighborhood to stay in with a combination of safety, good girl scene, good bar / night club scene, and good restaurants. I'd really appreciate some experienced input as I'm trying to book an Airbnb ASAP. Thank you.I'd say Jardins. It's where I stay most of my SP visits.
I'd say Jardins. It's where I stay most of my SP visits.IMHO, Jardim is the safest non-gated neighborhood in South America.
UrbanCowboy22
02-19-22, 22:50
Stopped by 57 House Friends Club earlier this afternoon. Perhaps Saturday afternoon is not the best day or time to visit the clinicas. 9 girls working however only one was available. They do have a bar and tables inside where you can sit and wait. Asked about prices and if there is an ISG special, receptionist said 250. Ha ha.
There's a bar / lounge area and a separate area in the back with what looked like arcade games and more lounge area. All the rooms are on the 2nd floor, very clean with a private bathroom. When you first walk in the host is there at the front desk and asks if you would like to see the lineup or hang out at the bar, which I went to the bar and they served me this beer (one of the best beers I've ever had, I can't remember the name but it's got a blue foil around the top of the bottle. I have to go back there to find out. I can't seem to find it anywhere around Brazil so far, and I've been looking). Anyway, just mention to the host you're from the board and it'll be 150, you pay the tab when you're finished and leaving. They accept credit cards plus 20 more, I don't know if it will be 150 after 8 pm.
Jimmy Boy 99
02-20-22, 02:46
Stopped by 57 House Friends Club earlier this afternoon. Perhaps Saturday afternoon is not the best day or time to visit the clinicas. 9 girls working however only one was available. They do have a bar and tables inside where you can sit and wait. Asked about prices and if there is an ISG special, receptionist said 250. Ha ha.There is a discount if you are a recognized poster on gp-guia. I think it is around 180 real for an hour for them.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-20-22, 19:22
Hello folks,
I am visiting SP for the first time in two weeks. I don't know Portuguese language at all. How big the language barrier is going to be with SP girls?
Thanks,
TIG.
How does March look like in SP? Never went there in March before. Mid March to be exact.
I'm back at home and I think I own you my report, because if I had this amazing experience is only thanks to this forum. I was planning to book an other hotel, than I moved to Renaissance.
It was raining and late when I arrived, the hall was completely empty, and the bar was not working due for some works. I saw two ladies outside chatting. Went to my room, had a shower and 20 min after I was up and running.
The two ladies, where still there. And after a smile I knew they were WG. A quick chat and after 5 min we were on a Uber looking for a place for a beer. Nice chat and 5 min after we were at a place, but both girls were without their vaccination card and we were refused. New uber, new ride. It was like I was the king and the 2 gals mine concubines. We haven't discussed about price or everything, and I was already with my hands all over their secrects spots. And my tongue jumping from one mouth to the other.
New place same red card, no entry without vaccination. It was getting late and finally we found a place to eat and drink something. Back at hotel they said I could tale just one girl to the room, they asked me to book another room. So I had to disappoint one of the 2 ladies.
I think I made the decision of the year, we'll lately I've been very lucky if you read the Singapore forum you know what I'm talking about.
I pick Gardenia, this is her name. Mid 30's, slender, curly hair. Nice ass. I spent with her the next 40 hrs.
Well I don't know if now I'm old and I just improved my radar for scams, what I know is that it was an home run.
She was amazing in bed, outside the bed. It was like she knew all I wanted before even asking. She is a queen of the BBBJ, we had sex in multiple position and I came. I lost the number of times I came inside her mouth, over her face. I came all over.
The morning I woke up with my little brother in her mouth, and she had me for breakfast. Then we had real breakfast. And started again. We had some time in the SPA, and had sex again. It was afternoon and we went for a tour I don't even remeber where. It was the biggest GFE I've had in this hobby for years. Back to the hotel we had sushi and I had her. I can't explain how good she was in what she was doing. We chatted about everything. She used to work in clubs, than paused and now she's back in business. I don't know if this was true or fictional, but I don't care. She's a real gem. Always smiling always looking for a way to please me, and she came alot, she also came alot. And if this was fictional she's an actress.
Rimming, CIM, CIF, GFE, BBBJ, you name it, I had it. Now I don't now if she's popular here or not, in any case I wish if you meet her, please treat this gem with respect. I'm looking forward for my next trip to meet her again and again.
Omicron Gamma
02-20-22, 23:16
Hello group!
Traveling to SP in April and wondering the best neighborhood to stay in with a combination of safety, good girl scene, good bar / night club scene, and good restaurants. I'd really appreciate some experienced input as I'm trying to book an Airbnb ASAP. Thank you.I had a dud phone and saved all the main Clinicia' and Boate's on Google Maps and then from the eye test the result, as the other members have said was Jardins or Moema. Pick either as with Uber being so cheap getting around to the spots as you need shouldn't be a problem.
Enjoy SP.
OG.
Hello folks,
I am visiting SP for the first time in two weeks. I don't know Portuguese language at all. How big the language barrier is going to be with SP girls?
Thanks,
TIG.Imagine yourself as deaf-mute trying to communicate with someone who doesn't speak sign language.
Hello folks,
I am visiting SP for the first time in two weeks. I don't know Portuguese language at all. How big the language barrier is going to be with SP girls?
Thanks,
TIG.You will be okay with Google translate. The girls are used to guys who don't speak a word of Portuguese and have adapted to this situation. Expect to pay higher prices especially if the girl speaks English.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-21-22, 23:43
Imagine yourself as deaf-mute trying to communicate with someone who doesn't speak sign language.That's not very encouraging. But I have memorized some key phrases like "Oral sem preservatio?"
ThatIndianGuy1
02-21-22, 23:45
You will be okay with Google translate. The girls are used to guys who don't speak a word of Portuguese and have adapted to this situation. Expect to pay higher prices especially if the girl speaks English.Thank you! I have been okay with Google translate in Costa Rica without knowing Spanish so I guess that will be the same case here.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-21-22, 23:52
Question from a newcomer in SP:
So many girls entertain at their apartments. So what happens? You go to the address and call for the apartment number? Also, some reviews talk about showing some documentation at reception. What are those documents? Will a copy of my passport do?
Thanks in advance.
Question from a newcomer in SP:
So many girls entertain at their apartments. So what happens? You go to the address and call for the apartment number? Also, some reviews talk about showing some documentation at reception. What are those documents? Will a copy of my passport do?
Thanks in advance.Alas, a copy may not be sufficient. Many girls work from hotels and reception will want to see the original passport.
Question from a newcomer in SP:
So many girls entertain at their apartments. So what happens? You go to the address and call for the apartment number? Also, some reviews talk about showing some documentation at reception. What are those documents? Will a copy of my passport do?
Thanks in advance.I always keep a color photo copy of my passport on me in Brazil and whether visiting apartments or hotels I never had an issue when presenting it as long as its clear. I also have a separate color photo copy of my Vaccination card. I bring multiple copies just in case they get crumpled / dirty etc.
Gabbarsing
02-22-22, 19:20
Hello folks,
I am visiting SP for the first time in two weeks. I don't know Portuguese language at all. How big the language barrier is going to be with SP girls?.I just got back from SP last week and I was there for 8 days. No language barrier whatsoever. Memorize couple of liners in Portuguese to to "start" the convo like and then start with google translate. SP is lot of fun. Cheers. I am already thinking of my next trip already.
Not to mention all of the tutes LOL!
https://www.pbs.org/video/sao-paulo-dont-sleep-2zvjzu/
I just got back from SP last week and I was there for 8 days. No language barrier whatsoever. Memorize couple of liners in Portuguese to to "start" the convo like and then start with google translate. SP is lot of fun. Cheers. I am already thinking of my next trip already.When are the trip reports coming?
Hello folks,
I am visiting SP for the first time in two weeks. I don't know Portuguese language at all. How big the language barrier is going to be with SP girls?.I'll also be in SP in 2 weeks. I'd be happy to help out.
Gabbarsing
02-23-22, 18:31
Context: This was my first visit to Brazil with close to none Portuguese knowledge. I am just another guy out in late 30's and here to share my experience / report.
First things first, thank you! To this forum for amazing tips and recommendations. So here is my time to pay it back to the community.
I had lot of hassle in the flight departing USA (flight got cancelled 3 times) and I ended up reaching Brazil 15 hours later then originally expected. Despite all the hassle I was able to finally land to Brazil around midnight in Rio. Given this is SP forum, I will skip my Rio report (to be posted soon there in Rio group) So after 4 days in Rio, I took domestic flight from Rio - SP.
Landed SP around 4 ish.
Hotel:
- Hotel Grand Mercure São Paulo Ibirapuera. I'd recommend this hotel as it was GF and had no trouble navigating to other places in SP. I find that to be in safe neighborhood as well.
- Tip: Always check with hotel that if it is GF before booking AND also check how close the hotel is from Scandello (more on this later).
Mongering: From my RTFF on this forum, one thing I knew was Scandello is a place to be and it totally live to the hype.
Scandello: So as soon as I landed so SP I chcked-in, got food and went to Scandello around 8 ish. 400 cover with 200 consumable. The place is something to experience and not to be described. Out of my 7-8 days in SP I ended up coming to Scandello almost every night. Typically you will find around 100+ girls. I managed to find and fuck all my fantasies.
You will find almost all types of girls of your taste. Lack of language has it's cost but it is not a deal breaker. I learned like 20 ish words in Portuguese and was comfortable to give my intro, ask names, say that I know very little Portuguese, ask if you know English etc. To kick off the convo. Google translate was my buddy to fill in the gap wherever needed.
Out of all girls I hooked up at this club, I was able to arrange few sessions for BBFS. It was until last few days I realized that how amazing the food is at Scandello.
I highly highly recommend visiting Scandello if your budget allows. Price one should keep in mind: 400 entry (with 200 consumable), + additional drink you consume (beyond 200) + girls you choose (typical one hour is 500-700) + 230 for the hotel room. So as you can see, if you partake into one session. You are looking at 400+500+230 = 1130 at the very least. But it is totally worth it, like I said. The experience is what justifies this price.
Apart from Scandello, I did 3-4 sessions from online girls. Easy to arrange and I asked them to come to my hotel.
Cafe-photo: Cafe-photo (which is now renamed to Lotus) was early there around 8:00 PM and only 5-6 girls, Manager said he can have 20 ish girls around 11. So decided to party at Scendello instead.
Lotus Lounge for massage: Nice place, you get to pick girls from tablet. I did 2 sessions there. Both were up to my satisfaction and IMO, nice lineup of girls there. Try to pre-book if you are picky like me. Cost: 680 (350 girl + 330 spa).
Route 22 massage: Low end, found 2 girls there and none was up to my standard to bailed out. Cost: 300.
EdenSpa: They show presentation of girls one by one. I picked up one and ended up having a session. It was OK session. Cost: 500.
Also managed to pick-up local girl (sheer luck) from the restaurant, she was fluent in english. She showed me around the city and we ended up having few sessions in my hotel (free) - tbh, this was not in my agenda but I was just lucky to be in a right place at a right time. She was 30 yo skinny white skin gal.
On average I was having 3+ sessions on a given day. I am ALREADY planning when should I go next. I might end up making another trip in May / June.
Downside: there is NO downside but somehow, I personally was tired of "fuck" on 8th days of my trip to Brazil haha. 3+ sessions a day, everyday and at sometime it was mechanical to me. If and when I go next I want to revisit my approach so I don't feel this way.
I know this is not the best described report but I am happy to take feedback and answer any questions. Also from other senior members, if there is anything I should have done differently I can take more recommendations as well.
Cheers.
ThatIndianGuy1
02-23-22, 18:44
I'll also be in SP in 2 weeks. I'd be happy to help out.I'm not a paid member so can't contact you but thank you for the offer anyway.
Context: This was my first visit to Brazil with close to none Portuguese knowledge. I am just another guy out in late 30's and here to share my experience
I know this is not the best described report but I am happy to take feedback and answer any questions. Also from other senior members, if there is anything I should have done differently I can take more recommendations as well.
Cheers.Nice report and good going on the BBFS. Did having your test on hand help out? Also, thanks for pointing that a knowledge of Porto is not necessary for doing what you want to do. Basic phrases re good to know but google can do the rest🤣.
I have nothing more to add o wvommend because I would do the same thing if I happened to stay in SP as long as you did and I think even I would be "sexed" out after your schedule. I am sure other senior types will come along and discuss how the clinicas and prices are better cost wise and the girls are of the exact same quality as Scandello 🙄.
The Critic
02-24-22, 10:17
Sao Paulo Visit | Feb 6th to Feb 13th Context: This was my first visit to Brazil with close to none Portuguese knowledge. I am just another guy out in late 30's and here to share my experience / report.Good and informative report. Like the posting of expenses.
Axel Heyst
02-24-22, 17:50
Context: This was my first visit to Brazil with close to none Portuguese knowledge. I am just another guy out in late 30's and here to share my experience / report.
First things first, thank you! To this forum for amazing tips and recommendations. So here is my time to pay it back to the community.
I had lot of hassle in the flight departing USA (flight got cancelled 3 times) and I ended up reaching Brazil 15 hours later then originally expected. Despite all the hassle I was able to finally land to Brazil around midnight in Rio. Given this is SP forum, I will skip my Rio report (to be posted soon there in Rio group) So after 4 days in Rio, I took domestic flight from Rio - SP.
Landed SP around 4 ish..Good report Gabbarsing. Sounds like you had a real good time: "3+ sessions on a given day." Way to go! Everyone had their own pace. I always do at least one girl per day and when I am in the mood and I meet up with the right girl, I will happily take on a 2nd one, so my average is approximately 1. 5 girls per day which I can keep going for an entire trip. For example on my last trip to RJ & SP in October / November (6 weeks). I felt real good the entire trip and I really did not want it to end. KKK. I even arranged for one my favorites to come over to my hotel in the afternoon just a couple of hours before I left for the airport for one last tryst.
So, I think you just need figure out the pace that is right for you for the long haul. You are young. Maybe 2.5 girls per day. LOL.
One more thing: I recall the Scandalo entrance fee being 200 br with no consumable charge and all drinks charged at the point of consumption to my running tab. I usually show up there around 9 pm or later after they open up the large entertainment bar and the outdoor patio bar. I believe they comp the 1st drink if you arrive before 7 pm.
Gabbarsing
02-24-22, 19:29
Nice report and good going on the BBFS. Did having your test on hand help out? Also, thanks for pointing that a knowledge of Porto is not necessary for doing what you want to do. Basic phrases re good to know but google can do the rest🤣.
I have nothing more to add o wvommend because I would do the same thing if I happened to stay in SP as long as you did and I think even I would be "sexed" out after your schedule. I am sure other senior types will come along and discuss how the clinicas and prices are better cost wise and the girls are of the exact same quality as Scandello 🙄.Yes test on hand comes in very handy.
Gabbarsing
02-25-22, 15:48
Good report Gabbarsing. Sounds like you had a real good time: "3+ sessions on a given day." Way to go! Everyone had their own pace. I always do at least one girl per day and when I am in the mood and I meet up with the right girl, I will happily take on a 2nd one, so my average is approximately 1. 5 girls per day which I can keep going for an entire trip. For example on my last trip to RJ & SP in October / November (6 weeks). I felt real good the entire trip and I really did not want it to end. KKK. I even arranged for one my favorites to come over to my hotel in the afternoon just a couple of hours before I left for the airport for one last tryst.
So, I think you just need figure out the pace that is right for you for the long haul. You are young. Maybe 2.5 girls per day. LOL.
One more thing: I recall the Scandalo entrance fee being 200 br with no consumable charge and all drinks charged at the point of consumption to my running tab. I usually show up there around 9 pm or later after they open up the large entertainment bar and the outdoor patio bar. I believe they comp the 1st drink if you arrive before 7 pm.Thanks for sharing your insights Alex. And yeah during my next trip, I will go for 2 girls / sessions per day type of arrangement. It is sustainable for a longer run, like you said. I guess I was little too excited as this was my first trip. But this trip also motivated to work on my cardio so that's what I am focusing on in USA -- haha to be better at "performance" in my next visit.
Gabbarsing
02-25-22, 15:52
For folks, who have been to Colombia and Brazil (SP / Rio) - which place is better for mongering.
I just got back from Brazil and this was my first ever "mongering" trip and boy I totally loved it. So here I am planning my next trip already. However, Brazil is a 16 hours flight for me so I am considering Columbia which is 10 hours flight.
Anyone been to both Brazil and Colombia that can give me some comparisons? I am not too much worried about some marginal difference in living or sex cost.
My priority is (in that order).
- Safety as solo traveller and lack of local language knowledge.
- Easy to navigate mongering hobby.
- Quality of girls (white skin, hottie).
For folks, who have been to Colombia and Brazil (SP / Rio) - which place is better for mongering.
I just got back from Brazil and this was my first ever "mongering" trip and boy I totally loved it. So here I am planning my next trip already. However, Brazil is a 16 hours flight for me so I am considering Columbia which is 10 hours flight.
Anyone been to both Brazil and Colombia that can give me some comparisons? I am not too much worried about some marginal difference in living or sex cost.
My priority is (in that order).
- Safety as solo traveller and lack of local language knowledge.
- Easy to navigate mongering hobby.
- Quality of girls (white skin, hottie).I'll just keep this simple. I like both countries, but I love Brazilian people and culture more. And I like the way Brazilian girls fuck more better. If you want the GFE, then stick with Colombia. But if you want more PSE and / or anal action, then go with Brazil.
SocratesNY
02-26-22, 01:41
Mongering: From my RTFF on this forum, one thing I knew was Scandello is a place to be and it totally live to the hype.
Scandello: So as soon as I landed so SP I chcked-in, got food and went to Scandello around 8 ish. 400 cover with 200 consumable. The place is something to experience and not to be described. Out of my 7-8 days in SP I ended up coming to Scandello almost every night. Typically you will find around 100+ girls. I managed to find and fuck all my fantasies.
You will find almost all types of girls of your taste. Lack of language has it's cost but it is not a deal breaker. I learned like 20 ish words in Portuguese and was comfortable to give my intro, ask names, say that I know very little Portuguese, ask if you know English etc. To kick off the convo. Google translate was my buddy to fill in the gap wherever needed.
Out of all girls I hooked up at this club, I was able to arrange few sessions for BBFS. It was until last few days I realized that how amazing the food is at Scandello.
I highly highly recommend visiting Scandello if your budget allows. Price one should keep in mind: 400 entry (with 200 consumable), + additional drink you consume (beyond 200) + girls you choose (typical one hour is 500-700) + 230 for the hotel room. So as you can see, if you partake into one session. You are looking at 400+500+230 = 1130 at the very least. But it is totally worth it, like I said. The experience is what justifies this price.
Thanks for the report!
Scandallo is truly heaven on earth for hobbying. I just finished a week long trip myself (I landed shortly after you left) and agree with your sentiments 100%. I will post my trip reports in the next day or 2.
I am curious about additional details about your BBFS negotiations with Scandallo girls. 1) Did you negotiate it before leaving the club or after while in the room? 2). Were all your sessions 1 hour at the adjacent hotel or did you take any girls back to your hotel for an overnight? 3) did you offer or did the girls ask extra $$ for BBFS?
I've had my fair share of success negotiating BBFS, but I usually broach the subject back in my hotel room rather than at the club. I would like to hear your experience so I can get additional data points.
It just appears to me that they are more agreeable when in the comforts of my hotel room, with music, wine and snacks, etc. Setting the mood. But if one wants to be sure they are getting it, having it negotiated before leaving the club is necessary.
You mentioned typical 1 HR at Scandallo was R500-700. Was that their opening offers or what you finally settled on after negotiations?
I have found during my last 2 trips, the girls are asking for more than last year. But I generally do overnight, so I was hearing lots of R2 k to R3 k for overnight my last 2 trips, while last year, I was hearing lots of R2 k to 1. 5 k for overnights. I still end up talking down to R1 k to 1. 5 k without much issues.
SocratesNY
02-26-22, 02:11
Scandello: So as soon as I landed so SP I chcked-in, got food and went to Scandello around 8 ish. 400 cover with 200 consumable. The place is something to experience and not to be described. Out of my 7-8 days in SP I ended up coming to Scandello almost every night. Typically you will find around 100+ girls. I managed to find and fuck all my fantasies.
You can also get reduced entry of 200 (150 consumption included) by arriving before 7 pm. You can also leave and return same day and don't have to pay any extra entry and just be responsible for any consumption (no minimum).
I often times drop in at 5 or 6 with friends and the leave at 7 or 8 for dinner the return after.
I think Mondays are also slow and it's just 200 (150 consumption included).
You will find almost all types of girls of your taste. Lack of language has it's cost but it is not a deal breaker. I learned like 20 ish words in Portuguese and was comfortable to give my intro, ask names, say that I know very little Portuguese, ask if you know English etc. To kick off the convo. Google translate was my buddy to fill in the gap wherever needed.
Knowing Porto is obviously a plus, but Google translate is incredibly powerful when used right / well. I love the conversation mode with the auto setting on. I have been able to talk to a girl with Google translate hands free. As they were busy feeling her up while we were fucking!
I highly highly recommend visiting Scandello if your budget allows. Price one should keep in mind: 400 entry (with 200 consumable), + additional drink you consume (beyond 200) + girls you choose (typical one hour is 500-700) + 230 for the hotel room. So as you can see, if you partake into one session. You are looking at 400+500+230 = 1130 at the very least. But it is totally worth it, like I said. The experience is what justifies this price.
A few things to keep in mind. The hotel charges per hour so if you want multiple hours, it can get pricey. Exit fee is R250 and the LUSH love motel is nearby and incredible so can be a better option. Better yet is to take a girl back for an overnight at your place, where you can fuck as long as you want and do it again in the morning / afternoon.
Downside: there is NO downside but somehow, I personally was tired of "fuck" on 8th days of my trip to Brazil haha. 3+ sessions a day, everyday and at sometime it was mechanical to me. If and when I go next I want to revisit my approach so I don't feel this way.
I know the burnout of too much fucking well from previous trips Due to the time and expense of traveling to somewhere to mainly hobby, a person usually overdo it!
I've since learned to pace myself better and stick to 1 girl a night / day. I love overnights with new girls or dinner dates & overnights with repeats.
I can usually get one in before dinner, another before sleeping and one more in the morning. That leaves me so satisfied that I don't need to hit up a clinica or massage or online girl during the day.
The savings of having 3+ shots for 1 overnight price saves money too vs. 3 separate girls for 1 hour each with potential room fees.
Thanks for the report!
Scandallo is truly heaven on earth for hobbying. I just finished a week long trip myself (I landed shortly after you left) and agree with your sentiments 100%. I will post my trip reports in the next day or 2.
I am curious about additional details about your BBFS negotiations with Scandallo girls. 1) Did you negotiate it before leaving the club or after while in the room? 2). Were all your sessions 1 hour at the adjacent hotel or did you take any girls back to your hotel for an overnight? 3) did you offer or did the girls ask extra $$ for BBFS?
I've had my fair share of success negotiating BBFS, but I usually broach the subject back in my hotel room rather than at the club. I would like to hear your experience so I can get additional data points.
It just appears to me that they are more agreeable when in the comforts of my hotel room, with music, wine and snacks, etc. Setting the mood. But if one wants to be sure they are getting it, having it negotiated before leaving the club is necessary.
You mentioned typical 1 HR at Scandallo was R500-700. Was that their opening offers or what you finally settled on after negotiations?
I have found during my last 2 trips, the girls are asking for more than last year. But I generally do overnight, so I was hearing lots of R2 k to R3 k for overnight my last 2 trips, while last year, I was hearing lots of R2 k to 1. 5 k for overnights. I still end up talking down to R1 k to 1. 5 k without much issues.How do you guys justify these prices? A pernoite with a Scandallo girl is 2000 R-2500 R easy, including the entrance fee, take out fee, etc. Thats 400 to 500 USD at current exchange rate. Regardless of how much money you have, don't you think it is pricey for Brazil? Also, you can't test drive a girl before you agree on the price, so you have no idea how she will perform in bed. These girls are pros, and pros generally do not provide GFE. The best sessions I have had in my life were with non pros or semi pros. Service is always a gamble, but in case of Scandallo, a very pricey one. In Colombia you can fuck the hottest girls for $100-$200 USD. In Rio probably the same price range, up to 1000 R pernoite. So, why bother with SP and Scandallo?
For folks, who have been to Colombia and Brazil (SP / Rio) - which place is better for mongering.
I just got back from Brazil and this was my first ever "mongering" trip and boy I totally loved it. So here I am planning my next trip already. However, Brazil is a 16 hours flight for me so I am considering Columbia which is 10 hours flight.
Anyone been to both Brazil and Colombia that can give me some comparisons? I am not too much worried about some marginal difference in living or sex cost.
My priority is (in that order).
- Safety as solo traveller and lack of local language knowledge.
- Easy to navigate mongering hobby.
- Quality of girls (white skin, hottie).Have been to both countries dozens of times. I give Brasil the edge for this hobby, as the women just tend to be wilder. Having said that, Colombia is about half the travel time for me as Brasil and I also speak Spanish much better than Portuguese. So Colombia has its advantages.
Both countries can be dangerous, but if you watch yourself you're generally ok. I've had close calls in both, but escaped unscathed.
I prefer morenas, but you can find light skin girls in both countries. In Brasil, SP has more than Rio and the South of the country has even more. In Colombia, stay inland for the Blancas.
Axel Heyst
02-26-22, 06:51
How do you guys justify these prices? A pernoite with a Scandallo girl is 2000 R-2500 R easy, including the entrance fee, take out fee, etc. Thats 400 to 500 USD at current exchange rate. Regardless of how much money you have, don't you think it is pricey for Brazil? Also, you can't test drive a girl before you agree on the price, so you have no idea how she will perform in bed. These girls are pros, and pros generally do not provide GFE. The best sessions I have had in my life were with non pros or semi pros. Service is always a gamble, but in case of Scandallo, a very pricey one. In Colombia you can fuck the hottest girls for $100-$200 USD. In Rio probably the same price range, up to 1000 R pernoite. So, why bother with SP and Scandallo?1st I don't justify nothing. Each of us are different. Our commonality lies in the fact that we are all men trying to maximize our pleasures given our personal preferences and our individual financial constraints.
Where to start? Expenditures: some guys on principle will not spend more than 300 br for a pernoite for whatever reason, who cares, and some guys are willing to spend a whole lot more, again who cares?
Quality: its in the eye of the beholder, man. What can I say? I have seen guys with girls I would not fuck blindfolded, and yet they are having a great time and think they are with a hot tamale. Conversely, I know some guys would not think too highly of my slender, small tit / small ass preferences. Who cares?
"So, why bother with SP and Scandallo?" I think that is a rhetorical question on your part because I think you have already made up your mind on this and you prefer the Termas and RJ. But here is my answer anyway: IMHO, the best looking girls that I have seen & shagged in RJ Termas are in the 6 range of Scandallo girls. That does not mean I am not attracted to some Terma girls and I do not have a good time at the Termas because I do. It just means that on an average night I find better lookers and in larger numbers in Scandallo than in any RJ Terma that I know of. I also prefer the classy nightclub ambiance that Scandallo has over the Termas, although I need variety too, so I like to have fun in the Termas as well. My nights would soon seem repetitious if I only went to Scandallo and the other SP Boates or If I only travelled to Brazil and shagged Brazilian girls exclusively.
Pro vs Amateur: "These girls are pros, and pros generally do not provide GFE. The best sessions I have had in my life were with non pros or semi pros. " I won't argue with you over who provides the best sex: pros or amateurs. Let's assume that you are right. I still prefer hookers because at this stage in my life I don't want the emotional baggage that comes with a non-professional relationship. You pay no matter which type of girl you are with. I prefer a straight up $$$ transaction that's all and yet many of my repeat girls give me solid GFE and we have stayed in touch for years and years. I have this Thai girl that I met in 2009 when she was 22 and the sexiest little girl in Baccara. She is no longer Go Go quality, that's life, but I like her so we continue to see each other. That is a GFE.
On LT ie the pereonite: I think you make a valid point with "you have no idea how she will perform in bed" But so far, knock on wood, I have not had a bad session in a SP Boate, Clinica, or RJ Terma, although quality does vary from "that was pretty good" to "OMG, that was fucking amazing". KKK. For this reason, I never commit to a LT session until I have sampled a girl's ST and discover I really want to spend a whole night with HER.
So, when I go to Scandallo or the other SP Boates or a RJ Terma, I like to shag in-house when I first meet a girl. Then afterwards I like to hang around with the girl if everything was really good and I like her. If the feeling is mutual we exchange What's App numbers so we can set up a meet at her apartment or my hotel for next time. Or I like to hang around the club solo and see who else is available for a possible 2nd in-house round. So yeah, the Boate tab or the Terma tab for that matter can get large, KKK. You do the math: Scandallo entry fee, room charge, girl #1, drinks, then more drinks, room charge, girl #2. But I am having a great time with some smoking hot girls and frankly I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks about that. LOL.
Anyhow, the bottom line for me is the nightlife is better in SP for the reasons I gave, namely the best looking girls, although I like RJ too just not as much. Ha Ha. But as I said at the top of this post, "we are all men trying to maximize our pleasure given our personal preferences and our individual financial constraints. " You do it your way and I will do it mine and we will get along fine.
A. H.
How do you guys justify these prices? A pernoite with a Scandallo girl is 2000 R-2500 R easy, including the entrance fee, take out fee, etc. Thats 400 to 500 USD at current exchange rate. Regardless of how much money you have, don't you think it is pricey for Brazil? Also, you can't test drive a girl before you agree on the price, so you have no idea how she will perform in bed. These girls are pros, and pros generally do not provide GFE. The best sessions I have had in my life were with non pros or semi pros. Service is always a gamble, but in case of Scandallo, a very pricey one. In Colombia you can fuck the hottest girls for $100-$200 USD. In Rio probably the same price range, up to 1000 R pernoite. So, why bother with SP and Scandallo?How does one justify spending $300 for an Michelin star quality meal? How does one justify buying a Mercedes / BMW vs a Ford / Chevy? There are no justifications or explanations required.
Like AH said below, the quality of the girls at Scandello consistently beats the quality of any RJ terma or boate. There isn't a comparison.
Speaking for myself, I follow a simple rule. If I am going to monger, I am going to get pussy that is way hotter than what I have at home or in my town. This will probably cost me more but it is an indulgence every few months just like a Michelin star meal. Now, there are guys who are perfectly fine with "two tits, a hole and a heartbeat. Heartbeat optional" quality. Nothing wrong with that either. To each his own.
SocratesNY
02-26-22, 15:56
How do you guys justify these prices? A pernoite with a Scandallo girl is 2000 R-2500 R easy, including the entrance fee, take out fee, etc. Thats 400 to 500 USD at current exchange rate.
R2000-2500 might be some of their opening asking prices, but I've never had a problem paying between R1000 to R1500 in the end.
If you are including entrance fees, consumption and exit fee, I think you are being disingenuous. Those have their own perks and has nothing to do with cost for spending the night with a girl. There has been times I have went with friends and decided to go home empty handed and didn't feel "ripped off". The entry fee gave me the chance to interact with lots of hotties in an easy environment.
The entrance is for the facilities use. The consumption is for drinks and food. The room fee is for use of the room and shower and the exit fee is to have her go home with you then and there rather than get her number for a later hookup. Instant satisfaction rather than delayed gratification. It is the same as in RJ tier 1 Termas. Do you include the entrance fee, consumption, room fee or exit fee when calculating how much you are paying for the girl to spend the night?
I have found getting numbers for takeout to be harder in RJ tier 1 termas (4 x4 was the exception) as many of the clubs don't allow a girl to give their number to a guy out in the open or even have their phone on them. It has to be done in a room. Or so they claim. Maybe I've been tricked by many of those girls. Who knows. But in Scandallo, I've had no issues getting numbers from girls for another day,/ night.
Regardless of how much money you have, don't you think it is pricey for Brazil?
Is R1000 to R1500 (what I usually pay for an overnight) or R2000 to 2500 (what some girls ask for, but might or might not get from other guys) pricey for Brazil? That is a subjective question.
I can go to other clubs (cafe photo, connections, bamboa, etc.) and have pulled girls for overnights at each of those clubs for a little less than Scandallo. However, I've gotten burned a few times at each club as I found nothing I wanted and ended up leaving after 30 mim. As I was on the hook for the entrance fee / minimum consumption, I ended up having a very very expensive (R250 to R350 depending on the club) Coke, Red Bull or beer! I've never had that problem at Scandallo. It's easier to count girls I DON'T want than girls that I do. As my brain would get overwhelmed doing the latter at Scandallo!
I can also get a clinica girl for R4-700 for overnight and have done so on a few occasions. I can go to VM in RJ and pull one for even less. But are they on the same level as the girl I will be pulling from Scandallo? Almost certainly not.
I am not just talking about looks here, but their demeanor, education, the way they carry themselves. Their confidence, etc. Many of them are doctors, lawyers, nurses, real models, other professionals. I like to take a girl on dinner dates at nice places and I want the girl to not just look the part, but act the part in that environment.
Scandallo might be high end, but there are even higher end girls. Your print model girls, celebrities, social media influencers, etc. All available on the down low, in the "pink book" or requiring special connect / introduction. Girls that have seen so much of the world by 19 or 20 and used to be wisked away to the French Alps, Paris, Tulum, Maldives, etc. On a regular basis. Those girls ask and easily get 2-4 x Scandallo prices and stay at 5 star accomodations, go on luxury shopping trips, etc.
I've sampled some of these super high end girls, but I am not rich enough or baller enough to see those girls on the regular. Many other guys are rich enough and I totally envy them, I also root them on! I certainly don't think "Man. There guys are ruining my market, etc. ". There is a lane and comfort level for everyone, both girls and guys.
So to finally answer your question of "Regardless of how much money you have, don't you think it is pricey for Brazil?
For me, Nope! DEFINITELY NOT!
Girls for hobbying at all end of the spectrum are bargains in Brazil, especially due to the strong Dollar, Euro, Pound, etc. The same would cost 3-10 x more on the US, whether you are going after a clinica romp or a boates overnight.
You mentioned an overnight at Scandallo is costly "That's 400 to 500 USD at current exchange rate. ". For a hot high end escort in the US, an overnight would be $2 k to $5 k USD. Depending on which city. As I am from NYC, it skews toward the higher end. And you are adding other fees and F&be consumption that has nothing to do with a girl's price. I wouldn't add dinner cost and hotel cost and taxi cost or room service cost to what I pay an escort in the US for an overnight.
I also Iove Brazilian hooker math. It is so much better compared to the US. In the US. 2 hrs is double the hourly rate and each hour after that has minor discount, where you might be paying 10 x hourly rate for 12 or 14 hours together. In Brazil, if a girl charged R500 for 1 HR, she would be fine with R700 for 2 or 3 hours and R1000 to R1200 for overnight of 10+ hours!
To put it another way. I can pay R1000 to 1500 for a super hot Scandallo girl for 10-16 hrs to hang with, dine with, fuck with. That same amount in equivalent USD would barely get me 30-60 minutes at a NYC AMP, our version of a SP clinica. And if I want a clinica girl, I can do to one for R150 to R250, which is only USD $30-50!
Also, you can't test drive a girl before you agree on the price, so you have no idea how she will perform in bed. These girls are pros, and pros generally do not provide GFE. The best sessions I have had in my life were with non pros or semi pros. Service is always a gamble, but in case of Scandallo, a very pricey one. In Colombia you can fuck the hottest girls for $100-$200 USD. In Rio probably the same price range, up to 1000 R pernoite. So, why bother with SP and Scandallo?Who says you can't test drive a Scandallo girl? You can take them for 1 hour for R5-700 in club.
I just usually choose not to as 1) I get better value due to Brazilian hooker math for multiple hours or overnights back at my nice hotel room and 2) I believe in my ability to read and charm a girl. The Scandallo environment is perfect for talking and checking out your chemistry with a girl. You can discuss what you and her like in bed, her rules or boundaries, her kinks and fetishes, etc. You certainly can't do that at a clinica, casa, brothel, etc.
As for non pro vs pro, I disagree. Many of the girls at Scandallo are very part time. Even the regulars, they are women, perhaps with a bigger wall erected. Whether it's me vetting then well or we just had good chemistry or me just treating them with respect and generousity And they dropped their wall and wanted to return the favor. I've had some of the most passionate, true GFE, PSE, whirlwind / tornado / hurricane like sex with Scandallo girls in overnights.
Non pros with little experience in bed can't compete with a pro who knows all the tricks of pleasuring you. Especially when they Ike you and just treat you as a regular guy that they want to fuck the shit out of or make super slow sensual and passionate love to!
R2000-2500 might be some of their opening asking prices, but I've never had a problem paying between R1000 to R1500 in the end.
If you are including entrance fees, consumption and exit fee, I think you are being disingenuous. Those have their own perks and has nothing to do with cost for spending the night with a girl. There has been times I have went with friends and decided to go home empty handed and didn't feel "ripped off". The entry fee gave me the chance to interact with lots of hotties in an easy environment.
The entrance is for the facilities use. The consumption is for drinks and food. The room fee is for use of the room and shower and the exit fee is to have her go home with you then and there rather than get her number for a later hookup. Instant satisfaction rather than delayed gratification. It is the same as in RJ tier 1 Termas. Do you include the entrance fee, consumption, room fee or exit fee when calculating how much you are paying for the girl to spend the night?
I have found getting numbers for takeout to be harder in RJ tier 1 termas (4 x4 was the exception) as many of the clubs don't allow a girl to give their number to a guy out in the open or even have their phone on them. It has to be done in a room. Or so they claim. Maybe I've been tricked by many of those girls. Who knows. But in Scandallo, I've had no issues getting numbers from girls for another day,/ night.
Is R1000 to R1500 (what I usually pay for an overnight) or R2000 to 2500 (what some girls ask for, but might or might not get from other guys) pricey for Brazil? That is a subjective question.
I can go to other clubs (cafe photo, connections, bamboa, etc.) and have pulled girls for overnights at each of those clubs for a little less than Scandallo. However, I've gotten burned a few times at each club as I found nothing I wanted and ended up leaving after 30 mim. As I was on the hook for the entrance fee / minimum consumption, I ended up having a very very expensive (R250 to R350 depending on the club) Coke, Red Bull or beer! I've never had that problem at Scandallo. It's easier to count girls I DON'T want than girls that I do. As my brain would get overwhelmed doing the latter at Scandallo!
I can also get a clinica girl for R4-700 for overnight and have done so on a few occasions. I can go to VM in RJ and pull one for even less. But are they on the same level as the girl I will be pulling from Scandallo? Almost certainly not.
I am not just talking about looks here, but their demeanor, education, the way they carry themselves. Their confidence, etc. Many of them are doctors, lawyers, nurses, real models, other professionals. I like to take a girl on dinner dates at nice places and I want the girl to not just look the part, but act the part in that environment.
Scandallo might be high end, but there are even higher end girls. Your print model girls, celebrities, social media influencers, etc. All available on the down low, in the "pink book" or requiring special connect / introduction. Girls that have seen so much of the world by 19 or 20 and used to be wisked away to the French Alps, Paris, Tulum, Maldives, etc. On a regular basis. Those girls ask and easily get 2-4 x Scandallo prices and stay at 5 star accomodations, go on luxury shopping trips, etc.
I've sampled some of these super high end girls, but I am not rich enough or baller enough to see those girls on the regular. Many other guys are rich enough and I totally envy them, I also root them on! I certainly don't think "Man. There guys are ruining my market, etc. ". There is a lane and comfort level for everyone, both girls and guys.
So to finally answer your question of "Regardless of how much money you have, don't you think it is pricey for Brazil?
For me, Nope! DEFINITELY NOT!
Girls for hobbying at all end of the spectrum are bargains in Brazil, especially due to the strong Dollar, Euro, Pound, etc. The same would cost 3-10 x more on the US, whether you are going after a clinica romp or a boates overnight.
You mentioned an overnight at Scandallo is costly "That's 400 to 500 USD at current exchange rate. ". For a hot high end escort in the US, an overnight would be $2 k to $5 k USD. Depending on which city. As I am from NYC, it skews toward the higher end. And you are adding other fees and F&be consumption that has nothing to do with a girl's price. I wouldn't add dinner cost and hotel cost and taxi cost or room service cost to what I pay an escort in the US for an overnight.
I also Iove Brazilian hooker math. It is so much better compared to the US. In the US. 2 hrs is double the hourly rate and each hour after that has minor discount, where you might be paying 10 x hourly rate for 12 or 14 hours together. In Brazil, if a girl charged R500 for 1 HR, she would be fine with R700 for 2 or 3 hours and R1000 to R1200 for overnight of 10+ hours!
To put it another way. I can pay R1000 to 1500 for a super hot Scandallo girl for 10-16 hrs to hang with, dine with, fuck with. That same amount in equivalent USD would barely get me 30-60 minutes at a NYC AMP, our version of a SP clinica. And if I want a clinica girl, I can do to one for R150 to R250, which is only USD $30-50!
Who says you can't test drive a Scandallo girl? You can take them for 1 hour for R5-700 in club.
I just usually choose not to as 1) I get better value due to Brazilian hooker math for multiple hours or overnights back at my nice hotel room and 2) I believe in my ability to read and charm a girl. The Scandallo environment is perfect for talking and checking out your chemistry with a girl. You can discuss what you and her like in bed, her rules or boundaries, her kinks and fetishes, etc. You certainly can't do that at a clinica, casa, brothel, etc.
As for non pro vs pro, I disagree. Many of the girls at Scandallo are very part time. Even the regulars, they are women, perhaps with a bigger wall erected. Whether it's me vetting then well or we just had good chemistry or me just treating them with respect and generousity And they dropped their wall and wanted to return the favor. I've had some of the most passionate, true GFE, PSE, whirlwind / tornado / hurricane like sex with Scandallo girls in overnights.
Non pros with little experience in bed can't compete with a pro who knows all the tricks of pleasuring you. Especially when they Ike you and just treat you as a regular guy that they want to fuck the shit out of or make super slow sensual and passionate love to!Thank you for the response!
I normally do not count hotels / wine&dine / taxi expenses, because they are optional and vary a lot. One night we could wine and dine at a fancy restaurant, another night we could stay in, watching Netflix and having Rappi for dinner. Really depends on my and my girl's mood, day of the week, weather conditions, etc. The reason I had included those fees is because they are mandatory and imposed by the establishment, there is no way to skip or reduce the fees. As to the test drive, sure, you can get a girl for 1 hour, but is doesn't make much sense, because her performance in the room could be very different, usually much worse, than the service she would provide outside of the club. And the price for 1 HR could easily be around 1000 R, including the room, so yeah, I agree with you, it makes much more sense, financially, to take a girl out for pernoite. In that case, you take on a bigger risk, but your reward could be higher as well.
You mentioned 2000-2500 opening asking rates, I don't think everyone can negotiate and bring those rates down to 1000-1500, that is a 50% discount. I have read reports where guys paid north of 2000 for pernoites. I guess it depends on how popular a girl is, how a monger looks, his interpersonal and negotiating skills. I'm sure some of us would pay full asking price without giving it a second thought.
MixedSalad07
02-26-22, 21:51
For folks, who have been to Colombia and Brazil (SP / Rio) - which place is better for mongering.
My priority is (in that order).
- Safety as solo traveller and lack of local language knowledge.
- Easy to navigate mongering hobby.
- Quality of girls (white skin, hottie).Safety: I feel like a WG is more likely to rob you in Colombia than Brazil. General safety will vary by city.
Navigate: Brazil. It's hard to get bad service there.
Quality: Subjective. You can't go wrong with either place.
MixedSalad07
02-26-22, 22:04
Just wrapped up a trip. 5 pernoites: 3 from Scandallo, one from Connections, and one from 57.
Prices ranged from 800 - 1500 $.
Had one social media influencer via a connection for 2000 $.
Did one clinica run at Aboborra which has yet to disappoint me.
I'm not going to go super in depth on this report, but the experiences were diverse and satisfying. Got CBJ with on one of the pernoites, but that was on me too because I didn't verify.
Stay safe.
Anyone saw that fight at Scandallo last week between some girls over a client?
EverythingBlue
02-26-22, 23:11
I've been catching up on some reading while waiting for my date tonight. I'm on the ground but in Montreal, man the potential here is huge! Anyhow, I think I agree with the camp that says what you pay is worth it to you if you have a great time. Would some others get a bargain at other places or if they speak Porto? Maybe, but to me, I've paid 1500 consistently for my pernoites and have not been disappointed or got bad service. Heck, in two I got BBFS for the same cost. Scandallo is no doubt the place to be.
For comparison, I've sessioned with 8 girls this week so far, and the cost of a pernoite in Brazil would only get me 1. 5 h of fun here. So hell yeah it's worth it. Even at 2000-2500 it's still worth it. I have a dinner date with a girl I sessioned with this week and hopefully spend the night after, we have not discussed any money, but I expect to give her some afterwards.
I never felt the need to try a girl in Scandallo prior to doing a pernoite, I guess I trusted my instincts every time and they didn't fail me. I only visited Rj once and I think Termas are a nice change of pace but I'm a Scandallo fan, I hope to be back later this year, once I'm done banging all the hotties I can here in Montreal.
TiaVoyage25
02-27-22, 01:46
Gentlemen,
I am back from the abyss (temporarily) for some small commentary. I was almost able to pull off a trip to Brazil in a couple weeks, but will be going to Colombia instead.
Nonetheless, I would like to chime in about pernoite. As a general rule, I don't do pernoite because I'm not interested in getting it with the same girl more than once if I'm paying. That's what girlfriends are for (personal preference of course). BUT, the one time I did pernoite in Scandallo the girl's vag smelled like death. That is just my luck for not giving it a test run in the hotel above the venue. Horrible experience, but since I'm a nice guy I made up a story about why she had to leave. Feel free to read all about it from my trip reports last summer. I get that this is a rental car business and that you can't test ride before you get a rental car, but I consider pernoite a lease. I will absolutely test drive a vehicle before I lease it. And the golden rule of this hobby gentlemen. Never buy.
Anyway, that isn't meant to slander Scandallo's name at all. The place is paradise on earth. I'll be back this summer for quite a while to enjoy that experience. Until then, keep up the good fight.
Tia.
MixedSalad07
02-27-22, 12:10
Anyone saw that fight at Scandallo last week between some girls over a client?Yes. Is that what it was? Over a client? For everyone else, it was in the restaurant. It wasn't a fist fight, I just heard a glass break, some squealing, and one girl cry inconsolably. Security got their asses out of there with the quickness.
Vagabundo1
02-27-22, 14:06
Well said.
I've done a mini relationship of 25 pernoites BBFS with a tier 1 terma girl (300-500 r per).
Leasing is the right analogy.
You never want to buy a working girl. Jesus what a clusterfuck of a family.
That said the cost per fuck goes down considerably.
Gentlemen,
I am back from the abyss (temporarily) for some small commentary. I was almost able to pull off a trip to Brazil in a couple weeks, but will be going to Colombia instead.
Nonetheless, I would like to chime in about pernoite. As a general rule, I don't do pernoite because I'm not interested in getting it with the same girl more than once if I'm paying. That's what girlfriends are for (personal preference of course). BUT, the one time I did pernoite in Scandallo the girl's vag smelled like death. That is just my luck for not giving it a test run in the hotel above the venue. Horrible experience, but since I'm a nice guy I made up a story about why she had to leave. Feel free to read all about it from my trip reports last summer. I get that this is a rental car business and that you can't test ride before you get a rental car, but I consider pernoite a lease. I will absolutely test drive a vehicle before I lease it. And the golden rule of this hobby gentlemen. Never buy.
I Make Sport
02-27-22, 23:10
Is there anything fun to do in this city on Sunday nights? Everything seems to be closed. Maybe Casarao is the only place that seems like it might be open?
TiaVoyage25
02-28-22, 02:46
Some bargain deals just aren't worth it my friend! Think of the kids resulting from such a union! They would never live it down.
Well said.
I've done a mini relationship of 25 pernoites BBFS with a tier 1 terma girl (300-500 r per).
Leasing is the right analogy.
You never want to buy a working girl. Jesus what a clusterfuck of a family.
That said the cost per fuck goes down considerably.
Vagabundo1
02-28-22, 04:16
I will say having a GF is fun.
When in Rome. When in Rio, having a hoar as a GF is something I would recommend for a while.
Some bargain deals just aren't worth it my friend! Think of the kids resulting from such a union! They would never live it down.
That's what everyone is telling me. Security kicked 3 girls out. 1 was cut in the arm. Must be that desperate to fight over a client.
Yes. Is that what it was? Over a client? For everyone else, it was in the restaurant. It wasn't a fist fight, I just heard a glass break, some squealing, and one girl cry inconsolably. Security got their asses out of there with the quickness.
SocratesNY
02-28-22, 23:42
Besides boates / clubs, my friends and I also hit up a lot of clinicas, mostly near the Moema area. There are at least 8 to 10 within walking distance to each other, although I mainly only went to five or six of them. Prices are around R150-R190 for 30 min or R220 to R250 for 60 min. There are also 4 hand (dupla) specials and reviewer specials offered.
There or also some high-end places all over SP, where they show you an iPad of the talent. (Oro Spa, The Palms, Lotus Lounge, etc.) Prices range from R500 to R700, but I never got around to trying them out.
Clinicas:
Moema Prime.
Av. Ira, 511 - Moema, So Paulo. SP, 04082-001, Brazil.
Prime is my favorite place as it has a large roster, lots of variety with lots of newbies coming by for a short tour, regular vets who provide good to great service and an inviting, clean and friendly atmosphere. It is R180 for 30 min and R250 for 60 min.
The two receptionist are both awesome. They are friendly and helpful, especially Patricia, who is a riot! The girls here are usually slimmer but they have quite a bit of voluptuous ones too. They get a lot of newbies rotated in and out so every week is a mystery especially on the weekends!
I've seen 5 or 6 girls here and they range from good to OMFG in terms of service. I had my first unsolicited anal sex in Brazil here with a girl that was just there for a week. I had my best clinica sessions (and top 10 overall across all venues) in Brazil here. Her name is Jade and provides passionate GFE / PSE service that will blow your mind. 12-16 girls are usually working here.
Abbbora.
Alameda dos Guaramomis, 1275 - Moema, So Paulo. SP, 04076-012, Brazil.
My second favorite place even though I never took a girl here. Their roster is wide and varied and I saw many friends go with girls I would have taken, if they didn't choose them first! 10-16 girls.
Clinica Miruna.
Av. Miruna, 644 - Indianpolis, So Paulo. SP, 04084-002, Brazil.
Very consistent spot with some hotties. Had two slim spinners here and both were decent. 7-10 girls.
Enjoy Spa.
Rua Condessa do Pinhal, 279 - Campo Belo, So Paulo. SP, 04610-060, Brazil.
Just like Abbbora, I didn't session here, but friends did and I would have too, if I didn't give them first dibs. 7-10 girls.
57 House Friend's Club.
Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema, So Paulo. SP, 04086-003, Brazil.
I had been here about 3 times without sessioning, as I either deferred to my friend or I was tight on time or a girl I was interested in wss talking to someone. The talent is decent during the day with around 6-10 girls.
I found a diamond in the rough on my last visit here last year. She clearly stood out from the pack due to her looks. I deferred to my wingman as he was leaving that night and I had a few more days.
After he told me she gave only "okay lite GFE service", I decided to see her anyway as she was a 9 to 9. 5 in looks for me. Her pricing was clinica pricing, so not expensive. Saw her for R400 for 2-3 hrs. She and I clicked at my hotel, as our chemistry was off the charts. One of the best True GFE session I had. And we only spoke via Google Translate! Extended to overnight for R700 total. Among the best value I had in SP in terms of: looks + service / $$ ratio.
Kamna Spa.
Av. Moaci, 885 - Planalto Paulista, So Paulo. SP, 04083-002, Brazil.
Same as Enjoy above, but smaller roster.
Food:
SP ia a foodie's paradise, especially with the crazy good exchange rate if you are from the US, UK or Europe.
My top 10 restaurants I have eaten at are:
1) the. O. M. - Michelin star fine dining.
2) A Casa do Porco Bar. Pork lover's paradise.
3) Jun Sakamoto. Amazing omakase.
4) Ryo Gastronomia. Creative and tastey sushi.
5) Nino Cucina. Elegant and yummy Italian.
6) Figueira Rubaiyat. Great steaks and tapas.
7) Barbacoa. Better Brazilian steakhouse than Fogo de Cho.
8) Camares Restaurante. Good seafood, fish and shrimp.
9) BICOL Korean Cuisine. Korean food that feels like home.
10) Mocot. Traditional Brazilian food.
Special mentions:
11) Seen. Restaurant & Bar. Mixology lover's wet dream.
12) Skye. Cool rooftop bar.
13) BotaniKaf. Great brunch spot.
14) Banana Caf. Dessert and coffee.
15) O'Malley's. The ultimate sports bar in SP carrying all NFL games.
16) The Blue Pub. Great pub food and. Good place to watch sports.
Experiences and random musings:
Most of my mongering on my SP ended up being with boates girls and all, but one, were pernoite or multiple hours romps at my hotel. Most of the girls were from Scandallo, but I did pull a few from Connection, Cafe Photo, Bomboa and 57 Friends.
I had planned to hit boates at night and clinica during the day, but the pernoites were usually so good and lasted late into the morning or early afternoon that I had no energy or desire to hit up a clinica or check out online girls during the day.
I ended up with 4 Scandallo "wives" at one point, that I was repeating with on subsequent trips. It was getting to be too much as I wanted variety as well as good repeats. But things have a way of working themselves out.
One eventually got jealous of me seeing other girls and ditched me in an angry fit. Even though she was seeing other clients. Another started a serious relationship with a guy and we stopped seeing each other, but remain platonic friends. One moved to Europe for school. I am glad my last Scandallo wife is still in SP, as she is my favorite. She is super chill, looks hot as fuck, speaks fluent English and a freak in bed. She also has super hot model / influencer friends who work UTR as pink book girls! She is so amazing that I want to take her on trips to other places in Brazil in the future, or even out of the country.
Some of my friends were more clinica guys and they were happy as clams having 2-4 different clinica girls a day at 30 min each session. One friend of mine stuck gold with an online girl and spent most of his time with her. There are so many hobbying options in SP that you can do what fits your comfort level.
I speak very little Portuguese, but have no issues communicating with the aid of Google translate. The conversation mode is incredibly powerful. Knowing some common greetings and questions is helpful in breaking the ice though. Knowing Spanish also helps as some girls understand or speak it.
Google Fi works great in SP, as do Verizon and AT&T international day passes. I didn't bother with local SIM as I averaged about 5-6 days per trip.
Finally, I think besides my wallet, the main reason I had such a great time mongering in SP is because I treat the girls with respect. Too many of the local Brazilian men treat their women like objects and treat them like shit. A wise dude recently told me that Brazil is the last western country where macho men are still accepted and still rule supreme here. I agree with him, but that doesn't mean their women isn't yearning to be treated more like equals.
I think my generousity and treating them with respect has yielded incredible dividends, as I had some of the most passionate true GFE sex I've ever had. Brazilian women are passionate, generous, sexual dynamos and I only wished I discovered Sampa earlier in my hobbying career.
SocratesNY
02-28-22, 23:45
I stopped doing trip reports after my first 3 visits to SP from last year, but my lat 3-4 trips since then have been better and better so I figure I should share some of the adventures, observations and tips after my 6+ trips to Brazil in the last 12 months.
Just be aware that this is coming from the perspective of someone who visit SP for only 4 to 7 days per trip and has limited Portuguese knowledge, so time is my most precious commodity. I am not looking to spend the majority of my limited time trying to find diamonds in the rough at bargain basement prices. I don't play the normal long game that some of the locals or long-term residents play.
My goal each trip is to shag the hottest girls possible that I have good chemistry or connection with. English skills are definitely a plus as I like to take a girl out to dinner, and having to use Google translate in that environment isn't enjoyable or optimal. I don't mind paying top end prices, but also look for "value" within said venue. If I can get most of the hotter girls for a pernoite at a particular boate for R1,000 to R1,500, I ain't going to be plunking down R3,000 to some hottie looking to hustle a gringo at that same spot!
Hotels:
I have stayed at the Renaissance, Grand Hyatt, Intercontinental, Hotel Unique, Tivoli and Fasano and all of them are high end 4-5 hotels that are girl friendly. They first two treat me amazingly due to my loyalty status from frequent travel so I usually stay there.
The Renaissance is probably the best combination the price, location, service and amenities. And it is super girl friendly. They even have a few working girls manning the lobby bar during the evenings! I've also seen so many obvious working girls go in and out of the Renaissance, from clinica girls to Scandallo or "pink book" girls, many of which I have been with or seen at the boates / clinicas.
I also have had friends stay at the Bourbon, IBIS, Pullman and Mecure in SP and all say they are girl friendly and offer good location and value. They especially like the locations near Moema for clinicas or Jardins to be closer to the restaurants and boates.
Whichever hotel you choose, make sure to book for 2 or more persons. If not, the hotel can add a "guest fee" when you have a girl come to your room.
Uber:
Use it over taxi whenever you can. Not only is it cheaper, you do not have to worry about having exact change. It's generally safer as well. If you're not in a rush for time you can use regular UberX / VIP. Use Uber black when you are pressed for time, as it cuts down on cancelations. Many times, the price between Black and X is similar. And once in awhile, even cheaper!
Just be sure to check that a driver actually ends your ride after dropping you off. I had one driver drop me and a Scandallo girl off at the Renaissance and then continue driving to GRU airport on my dime! Nothing a quick complaint to Uber didn't fix. But still annoying. Some might also take circuitous routes if you are napping to jack up the fare.
ATM / Credit Card:
I usually hit the ATM at the airport upon arrival for some hobbying and pocket money. Like R1,000 to R2,000. I then hit the ATMs in the city for more hobbying cash as needed. Bradesco and Santander are my go to banks. High withdrawal limits and low fees. I suggest having a Schwab or TD bank account for international hobbying as they reimburse ATM fees.
For everything else, I use a credit card, that doesn't have international transaction fees, for food, transportation, shopping, etc. You can also charge some to all of your hobbying expenses to your CC (many of which are without any extra fees) for CC points / miles!
I usually bring $500 to $1,000 USD as emergency cash. Having that extra cash is great if you are short some Real to pay your girl and you don't want to run to an ATM. You can just give her $100 USD in lieu of R500. The extra she gets via the exchange rate will more than cover the FX exchange fee.
Boates / Clubs:
Scandallo Lounge.
Are. Cel. Diogo, 1199 - Vila Monumento, So Paulo. SP, 01545-001, Brazil.
Might as well start with the best. It is by far the best boate in SP and Brazil. I haven't been to some of the now extinct places like Help in RJ or Dongguan, China, but my friend and I that have hobbied in Rio, Germany, Spain, France, UK, Switzerland, Netherlands, Austria, Colombia, DR, CR, Tijuana, CDMX, other Central and South American countries, China, HKG, Macau, Thailand, and Australia all believe Scandallo beats all current hobbying venues for the sheer volume of hot young top shelf girls in one spot. Better than other clubs, FKKs, Strip clubs, etc. That we have been to that are still currently around.
The club is the most expensive of all the boates in Sao Paulo, but not that much more compared to other clubs or venues. Admission is R200 before 7 pm (and all day / night on Mondays I believe), with R150 of that consumption. After 7 pm, it is R400, with R200 of it being consumption. If you enter before 7 pm and pay the lower entry, you are welcome to leave the club and return later in the evening and you don't need to pay any additional entry. You just pay for whatever you consume. On nights with special musical acts, the admission can go up to R600 with R200 of it counted towards consumption.
Alcoholic drinks vary from R30 to R90 for most common stuff and R20-50 for non-alcoholic. The food cost is about 2 x that of a normal 3 to 4 star restaurant, but it is quite good, especially the Soups, Filet Mignon and Sushi.
What do you get for this higher entry, consumption and F&be prices? You get an elegant environment with ample space to mill around, smooze, dance, party, lounge or chill. Depending on your mood. For taking in a meal, they have a large restaurant with a long bar. They have a smaller outdoor patio for use during the day and a huge outdoor space that opens up at night, complete with fire pits and lots of seating. Their disco / club area opens up around 9-10 pm and has live musical acts.
I personally find the lighting in the restaurant a bit dark to judge how hot a girl is. The same can be said if the Disco / dance area, but the party lighting brightens things up sometimes. I prefer to see a girl in better lighting and the outdoor areas fits the bill perfectly. It is also more quiet so better place to sit down and chat with a girl. You can see what she really looks like and can more easily talk.
Most importantly, you get access to 100-150+ hot woman of all shapes and sizes to satisfy every taste. Most of the girls are light skinned and not many negras. Also almost no BBW and limited amount of Asians. Many of the girls speak capable to fluent English, as well as Spanish, French, German, Japanese or Korean! Many are very educated or have professional jobs and only do this part time, from lawyers, doctors, nurses, engineers, artists, dancers to models, etc. (I shagged at least one from each of those categories).
The girl's prices have ranged wildly within the last 12 months. When I first visited the club last year, one of the English speaking managers told me to expect the girls to ask for R300 to 400 per hour! I knew he was a bit off from reading the forms before my trip as ISG bros were posting that the girls were asking anywhere between for R500 to R800 for the hour and R1,000 to R2,000 for an overnight. With very light negotiating, my friends and I were all able to get them to agree to R400-600 per hour or R800 to R1,200 pernoite.
I've noticed that asking prices have increased a bit on my last few trips (Fall 2021 to Winter 2022) as compared to the first half not 2021. I'm getting a lot of opening offers of R800 to R1,000 for an hour to R1,500 to R2,500 for overnight. My friends and I were still able easily get most girls to come down to R500-R700 an hour or R1,000 to R1,200 for overnight, and we aren't exactly hard negotiators. With how quickly they came down in price I believe they were fishing for a rich and ignorant gringo with those opening offers or were starting at a price point to negotiate to the local market rate. Some really hot girls insisted on on R7-800 for an hour or R1,500 for overnight, which I felt was fair, as they were 9. 5's and near 10's in my book. I did bite on a couple of those and had no regrets as I received phenomenal service that matched their exceptional beauty.
There were a handful of girls that stuck hard to R1 k to R1. 5 k for the hour or R2 k to R3 k for overnight, and we just let them be. My friends and I did noticed that those that stuck to the high prices didn't do any rooms or leave with any clients that we saw, in the multiple days / nights that we were there. As the clientele is 90% to 95% locals (according to most of the girls I spoke to), they set the market rate. If the locals were not paying those high prices, and many of them are loaded and can afford to, I didn't feel the need to pay it either, especially when there are so much more hot fishes in the huge ocean that is Scandallo.
Finally, there is a room fee or exit fee. It is R230 per hour AR the hotel next door. I did that once and don't recall how the facilities are. I am sure it was clean and decent, but I prefer takeout to a more comfortable environment. To take a girl out of the club back to your place, a love hotel like LUSH, etc. Is R250.
You can charge the entrance fee, consumption, room fee and exit fee to your credit card without any markup. You can also charge what you will pay the girl to your CC, but there is a charge for that (not sure on the %.
Cafe Photo.
Av. Dos Bandeirantes, 1515 - Itaim Bibi, So Paulo. SP, 04553-010, Brazil.
I was here in November when they reopened and also in February. The place is very elegant like Scandallo, but much smaller. It is basically one open lounge space, with an S shaped bar at one end and a stage at another. There is also some tables upstairs and a dark outdoor smoking area. The space is probably 20% to 25% the size of Scandallo. The club is also located more in the city center so should be closer to your hotel / Airbnb than Scandallo or Connections.
Entrance is R350 and either R150 or R200 is counted towards consumption (I forget which) There is currently no exit or room fee, as the renovations on the hotel isn't complete.
The positive about this smaller place and layout is that most of the talent is within your line of sight / view so you can sit and see mostly everything. In Scandallo, you will have to roam and walk around from room to room, section to section, to see who is available at any given time. Cafe Photo is also more subdued and quiet so it is easier to have a conversation with a girl in the lounge. The lighting in the main lounge area is a bit dark, but brighter by the bar.
As the space is much smaller than Scandallo, so too are the amount of girls present. I've seen 30-50 girls during my visits and overall the quality optically were a little lower than Scandallo. I did see quite a some 8's and even a few 9's and 9. 5's, but as they are so few of them, they were usually occupied / taken by someone else.
The girls were asking prices similar or a little less than Scandallo so everything fits the theme of almost like Scandallo except for one big difference. The ambiance is similarly high end, the entry is a little less, the quality of the talent pool is a little less and the girl's price is a little less. However, the big negative is that the club has so many less girls than Scandallo that if you are picky like me, you can easily decide to leave and go to another club after spending 30-45 min here. With a lot fewer girls than Scandallo to choose from, you can easily leave empty handed, if all the hot ones are taken. That happened to me on multiple occasions, and paying R350 for a couple of drinks before going to another club is a tough pill to swallow.
Bomboa 222.
Are. Andr Gonalves, 40 - Itaim Bibi, So Paulo. SP, 04530-010, Brazil.
A favorite of locals, this place has a whiskeria feel. It reminds me a bit of 4 x4 in Rio and I found their food or be good and drinks to be strong. Entry is now R250, all consumption. I never did a room here sure on room fee and the one time I took a girl out, they didn't charge me an exit fee as I was leaving near closing time or the bouncer like me, as I tipped him on each of my trips. I just saw him wave to them to not charge me.
The space is about 1/2 the size of Cafe Photo, but they have an upstairs area with tables for eating and an outdoor smoking area. Upstairs is super quiet, while downstairs in the main area can be quite loud.
I found the talent here to be similar to clinica talent, with a few above that in the Scandallo range. I found prices for the girls to be just a tad less than Scandallo / Cafe Photo. I normally would skip this places if my friends didn't want to check it out or wanted a change of pace / venue. It also is a good spot to hit up for dinner and drinks and getting digits before going to Scandallo!
Connection Night Club.
Av. Dr. Eduardo Cotching, 1178 - Jardim Analia Franco, So Paulo. SP, 03356-001, Brazil.
This place is pretty far away from the city center. I first went there last year when local COVID restrictions / curfews forced Scandallo to close at 9:00 pm. A lot of the girls from Scandallo went to Connection to continue working. I believe entry was like R50 before 7 pm and R100 after.
The place has a disco area and bar just a little smaller than that of Scandallo and a dining and outdoor smoking area further back in the club. The place is usually very loud and you need to move to the back of the club to the restaurant or outdoor patio to talk.
The place was hopping the 1st two times I went there last year and had lots of hotties (60-90) that were more of a slutty, PSE with lots of fake Ts & As, with some sprinkling of cute GFE look. Now that the pandemic is more normalized and most restrictions are gone, the place isn't the same. Earlier this month, I saw about 30 girls and only 2-3 that interested me, but of course they were taken / occupied.
57 House Friend's Club.
Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema, So Paulo. SP, 04086-003, Brazil.
This place is in the heart of Moema, surrounded by many popular clinicas. It operars as a clinica by day until 8 pm. Then it turns into a boate. There is a sizeable lounge area similar to Bomboa and a restaurant and pool table in the back. There is no admission, and you just pay for consumption. Exit fee is R200.
During the day when it is a clinica, you can ask for a presentation of lineup or just go into the lounge / restaurant to mingle with the girls. All the girls hang out in the open, unlike other clinicas where they are in their dressing room. If you see a girl you like, you can chat her up, buy her a drink, etc. The prices are preset Ike a clinica during the day. I think it is R250 per HR and some folks mention there is a reviewers special at R150.
The one time I went at night (Tuesday), I wasn't impressed. About 10 girls, but 1 was a hottie I had previously seen during the day. I've heard others say this place can sometimes be rocking at night after 9 pm, as some of the local clinica girls come there after their shift.
Lotus Club (Old Cafe Photo location?
Av. Pres. Juscelino Kubitschek, 373 - Itaim Bibi, So Paulo. SP, 04543-010, Brazil.
Went by here once in a Friday night at around 12 pm and it was super dead. The club is like a block away from Bomboa. I believe it was R300 entry with R150 consumption or just R200 entry with 0 consumption. The host knew it was super dead and warned me. She offered to show me around before I decide whether to stay or not.
The place just recently renovated and is modern and gorgeous. The size is similar to Cafe Photo with super high ceilings. Unfortunately, there were like only 3-5 girls so I told the host another time. My friends went there on another time on a Wednesday or Thursday night and it wasn't much better with around 8 to 10. Girls.
Just realized how long my post is getting so I will do a second post about Clinicas, places to eat, and good and bad experiences from my previous 7+ trips.
Great report. SocratesNY. We think alike in terms of girls and what we want on our time in SP.
Thanks for the restaurant list. Will try a few next time I am in SP.
Steve 9696
03-01-22, 04:17
Great report. SocratesNY. We think alike in terms of girls and what we want on our time in SP.
Thanks for the restaurant list. Will try a few next time I am in SP.Yeah. Same same. And double thanks for the restaurants. I def didn't grab the best ones last few visits. Def going to try these! And wow. Such comprehensive coverage. A real asset to the team!
I stopped doing trip reports after my first 3 visits to SP from last year, but my lat 3-4 trips since then have been better and better so I figure I should share some of the adventures, observations and tips after my 6+ trips to Brazil in the last 12 months.
Just be aware that this is coming from the perspective of someone who visit SP for only 4 to 7 days per trip and has limited Portuguese knowledge, so time is my most precious commodity. I am not looking to spend the majority of my limited time trying to find diamonds in the rough at bargain basement prices. I don't play the normal long game that some of the locals or long-term residents play.
My goal each trip is to shag the hottest girls possible that I have good chemistry or connection with. English skills are definitely a plus as I like to take a girl out to dinner, and having to use Google translate in that environment isn't enjoyable or optimal. I don't mind paying top end prices, but also look for "value" within said venue. If I can get most of the hotter girls for a pernoite at a particular boate for R1,000 to R1,500, I ain't going to be plunking down R3,000 to some hottie looking to hustle a gringo at that same spot!.Thanks for the detailed report! Any reason why you didn't go to Casarao? I know they opened back up not too long ago. It was my place to go before Covid.
DiverOyster
03-01-22, 05:25
Kamna Spa.
Av. Moaci, 885 - Planalto Paulista, So Paulo. SP, 04083-002, Brazil.
Same as Enjoy above, but smaller roster.
Awesome and very detailed report. I just wanted to chime in that Kamna Spa is now SPA MOAH, owned by the owner of Indy Spa. I like SPA MOAH. The rooms are nicely renovated and the girls are GFE. The receptionist is super hot but too bad she is not available for fun in the room.
So I have traveled to Brazil twice in recent months. The below report is based on my first experience. I had this written up after my first trip and was going to add to it after my second trip then post it. But I got busy after returning back and never had the chance. I'the say everything below holds true for my second trip as well, I will add a few more things at the bottom which differ. Apologies in advance if the grammar is not perfect.
Flights: I had a connection before landing in Miami so my day of departure was definitely kinda long. Flew LATNAM from Miami to GRU. The flight was very light and had many empty seats. The whole row next to me was empty so I tried laying down and sleeping but couldn't because I can't sleep on flights. Took a quick nap but that was it. Oh well. For the overnight flights, they do provide dinner and breakfast. Smooth flight, had no issues.
Stay: I rented an airbnb in Moema based on previous advice from here. Absolutely the right decision for me. It's safe, there's like 3 grocery stores, mall and a bank with an ATM limit of up to 2,500 all within a 10 walk of my Airbnb. People talk about the airport nearby being an issue in terms of sleeping but it didn't me much. Yes it was noticeable once I was awake but it was rarely something that disrupted my sleep when I was sleeping. There was however construction near my airbnb which was annoying on some days. The best part about staying here is that many of the Moema clinicas may be walking distance for you just like it was for me. Since I did my visits mostly during day time around afternoons, there was no issues in terms of safety when walking. Generally, I don't think there's much of an issue regarding safety in this area unless you do something outrageous to attract it. Always maintain common sense of course.
Clinicas: I checked out the main clinicas in the Moema area. Prime, 57, Abbabora, Miruna, Enjoy. These were all walking distance from my airbnb so that's another advantage of staying in Moema. One clinica may not have anything that you find enticing so then you can just walk to the next one. If nothing then walk to the next one, so on and so forth. I session'the at 57 with a pretty morena by the name of Nataly. She was pretty with an average body, overall looks wise I'the give her a 7. This was an average session party because the girl wasn't much into kissing (big deal for me) and I also had jet lag issues since I session'the here on the same Thursday I landed in Brazil. Seession'the at Prime and Enjoy as well over the course of my trip and both were good sessions.
Boates: Went to Scandallo a 3-4 times. Did not session. There was a lot of girls but lot of the nights there was a ton of guys too. The ratios that people talk here of 6 girls to 1 guy and all seems far fetched honestly. Talked with a few girls but never got the right vibe from them to session. Picked up few numbers though. Went to Connection three times and session'the twice and honestly I could've session'the the third time too but I wasn't feeling it that night, it wasn't for a lack of prospects. First one was a 21 yr old morena with a cute face and really nice body. Really good session. Second one was an asian looking brazillians and really good sessions with her as well. I can't remember the exact price here but everything cheaper by Scandallo by like 200 reais. Really nice rooms and everything too. Only negative for Connection is that it's further away from even Scandallo so I can it not being worth the drive for some mongers. For me it is worth it though. Went to Bomboa twice. It's a nice idea, you basically eat nice food at a fancy looking restaurant and then there's all these girls walking around and you can take them and go bang them upstairs if you wish. Not a bad idea at all. But I went twice and didn't session here, didn't find any that are quite my type.
Online girls: I called over a girl from Barras site by the name of Amy and had an amazing session. She wasn't the prettiest (about a 6 there, not ugly) but had a really nice body that's about an 8. She was absolutely a nypho and a freak. She got me to bust 3 times in the span of an hour and a half and I'm not sure I've ever done that before in both my personal life and mongering activities. Did an overnight with her again later in the trip and again a great time! I saw another girl by the name of Valencia from Barra as well. I went to her location for this and she was decent in looks but the session I'the say was above average. Nothing crazy.
Update from second trip: So I finally session'the at Scandallo. It was a good looking blonde that looks a bit Russian-esque. She was short, maybe 5'2 with natural be cup tits. Name was Gabi. I loved that petite body style. She took me like a champ and was great in every which way. If anyone PMs I can send photo and whatsapp. Session was for 600 or 700 for the hour. I had very good luck at Connection again. Brunette, little bit thicker than Gabi but also natural be cup tits. Ended up clicking very well with her and did a few overnights with her for rest of the trip instead of venturing out. Even though it may not be everyone's tea, Connection is my favorite spot in São Paulo for hobbying as I've been able to find the type of girls that I'm into here with cool personalities and vibes as well.
Food: I think SocratesNY covered the restaurant scene very well in his report on this same page. I had the pleasure to dine with him at some of those places as well during our trips. I will add that for anyone who enjoys Mediterranean food, you should check out New Shawarma in Brás. It's not a super nice restaurant with great dine-in seating and such, it's basically just a fast food joint. But they make incredible shawarmas here and I'm a big fan of Mediterranean food and I have experience with it all over the world so if this is a cuisine you enjoy then I recommend checking this place out. Again, remember that it's just a fast food place so expect the restaurant amenities to be the same of that of a McDonalds or so but much better tasting food obviously. Also, if you haven't tried it yet then I recommend trying a coxinha and pao de qeijo when in Brazil. They have it everywhere at most Brazillian restaurants. The tiny restaurant near my hotel on my second stay had it and it was incredible. My overnight from Connection and I went here many times to eat. They also had a unique Brazillian mayo that comes with it which tastes great. I've had it a few times since coming to the states and it tastes great here as well but not quite as authentic. They also don't have the Brazillian mayo for it here at the places I've been to.
I visited Rio as well and will do a trip report there as well soon. I had the opportunity to meet a few posters from the forum here and definitely had a great time hanging out with them as well (bearsi, socratesny, msalad, dodochen, vagumundo etc). I also want to thank all posters on here for contributing with valuable information and experiences. This was my first trip out of the country myself and it was made possible because of the knowledge gained from here. Special shout out to SinfullyKorean, EverythingBlue, and Mr E as I had numerous back and forth PMs with these posters before my trip.
If you're reading this and have any type of question about Brazil, please feel free to quote and ask or PM and ask. I will do what I can to pay forward from my own experience. Again, this trip wouldn't have been possible fi it wasn't for the contributors on this forum. There are many I didn't name, but I'm very thankful for it all.
The Critic
03-02-22, 10:35
So I have traveled to Brazil twice in recent months. The below report is based on my first experience. I had this written up after my first trip and was going to add to it after my second trip then post it. But I got busy after returning back and never had the chance. I'the say everything below holds true for my second trip as well, I will add a few more things at the bottom which differ. Apologies in advance if the grammar is not perfect.Very good report, Thanks for posting!
The Critic
03-02-22, 10:43
SocratesNY.
Sao Paulo Mongering Thoughts. Part 1
Sao Paulo Mongering Thoughts. Part 2Very detailed and informative. I especially liked the Food Suggestions. This has already been placed in the Reports of Distinction and rightly so! Must read for all Newb's.
SocratesNY
03-02-22, 13:59
Great report. SocratesNY. We think alike in terms of girls and what we want on our time in SP.
Thanks for the restaurant list. Will try a few next time I am in SP.Auto correct by ISG forums omitted some letters due to ' on the letters, etc. ! I am sure most of you can figure that out.
But the most annoying autocorrection that I didn't catch was for my favorite restaurant in SP, which is:
DOM (dot Between each letter) - Celebrity chef Alex Atala's Michelin star flagship restaurant. The place and food is divine. I've been there on 3 occasions. It is one of only 3 or 4 places I've repeated in SP, as I want to try new places out. The other places that I have repeated at / or plan to repeat at are:
1) Figueira Rubaiyat -- Love this place for lunch / tapas. They also make great steaks.
2) BotaniKafe -- Jardins. My go to place for breakfast / brunch.
3) Jun Sakamoto -- he is just a sushi master. So precise!
Speaking of chef Alex Atala. He has a sister restaurant around the corner from DOM.
Dalva e Dito -- Serves traditional Brazilian food in a casual setting and more friendly on the wallet.
SocratesNY
03-02-22, 14:17
Thanks for the detailed report! Any reason why you didn't go to Casarao? I know they opened back up not too long ago. It was my place to go before Covid.I had planned to check it out, but never got around to it as I am usually traveling with friends. They had been there and didn't think it was that great. They called it a mini-Bomboa that caters more to locals. I still might check it out in future trips just to cross it off my list.
They also known my taste in women (thin young and pretty gazelles) and lack of Porto so told me that hunting there probably not worth my time (or theirs as we were together).
If it wasn't for a change of pace, I wouldn't go to any other clubs besides Scandallo. All the other clubs I've been to are IMHO inferior in every way to Scandallo except cost. And I find the difference in cost to be so marginal that it is inconsequential.
My batting average at other clubs of taking a girl is between. 333 to. 500. Great for baseball, but not for mongering when you are paying R250 to R350 entry / consumption. There were many times that I basically had a $50 to $70 USD coca cola / Red Bull / beer at these other clubs and left after 30-45 min as I didn't see what I wanted. Before going to Scandalo.
At Scandallo, I am batting 1. 000.
SamaRiding
03-02-22, 15:03
Thanks for the detailed report! Any reason why you didn't go to Casarao? I know they opened back up not too long ago. It was my place to go before Covid.SocratesNY.
Casarão is a little different from Scandallo and the other boates. It's a more club setting for those who like that, which includes me. My preference is also for young and thin spinners, less fake T&A. On my last trip, I only went to scandallo and casarao, and had great times at both. Scandallo definitely have multiples more girls who fit my preference but casarao is almost half the cost and has still have girls to fit any taste. You can also do 30 minutes rooms in casarao and do multiple sessions a night. If your preference is for pernoite, stick with scandallo especially if you have limited time and money is not a factor.
I think SocratesNY advice on treating girls with respect and kindness is spot on. Whatever your style and setting, if you are nice and appreciate the girls and do repeat sessions, you will find the GFE factor goes through the roof. It is so easy to "wife up" several girls.
Axel Heyst
03-02-22, 15:52
auto correct > most annoying autocorrection that I didn't catch was for my favorite restaurant in SP, which is:
DOM (dot Between each letter) - Celebrity chef Alex Atala's Michelin star flagship restaurant. The place and food is divine. I've been there on 3 occasions. It is one of only 3 or 4 places I've repeated in SP, as I want to try new places out. The other places that I have repeated at / or plan to repeat at are:
3) Jun Sakamoto -- he is just a sushi master. So precise!
Speaking of chef Alex Atala. He has a sister restaurant around the corner from DOM. Dalva e Dito -- Serves traditional Brazilian food in a casual setting and more friendly on the wallet.Socrates, auto correct is a pain. I wish I could turn it off sometimes, but I knew you were talking about DOM. Great Restaurant! I also like Dalva e Dito. I like to go there for lunch. I also like your #7 "Barbacoa. Better Brazilian steakhouse than Fogo de Cho. " Yes, at the beginning of your meal a waiter comes by and asks how you like your steak prepared and after you tell him how you like it, that's all the wellness you are going to see. Great restaurant! Very high quality cuts and they don't skimp on the quantity.
I will have to try Jun Sakamoto. It sounds good. So far the only sushi I have had in SP was room service at the Renaissance during code red and the sushi platter that I ordered at Bomboa one night for a girl and myself and her friend. Ha Ha. She recommended it and she was not wrong. It was surprisingly pretty good!
I have also had great sushi in Barra the Tijuca, RJ at Nagayama and Shiso. I love good sushi, saki and the right girl.
Bon Appetit.
Auto correct by ISG forums omitted some letters due to ' on the letters, etc. ! I am sure most of you can figure that out.
But the most annoying autocorrection that I didn't catch was for my favorite restaurant in SP, which is:
DOM (dot Between each letter) - Celebrity chef Alex Atala's Michelin star flagship restaurant. The place and food is divine. I've been there on 3 occasions. It is one of only 3 or 4 places I've repeated in SP, as I want to try new places out. The other places that I have repeated at / or plan to repeat at are:
1) Figueira Rubaiyat -- Love this place for lunch / tapas. They also make great steaks.
2) BotaniKafe -- Jardins. My go to place for breakfast / brunch.
3) Jun Sakamoto -- he is just a sushi master. So precise!
Speaking of chef Alex Atala. He has a sister restaurant around the corner from DOM.
Dalva e Dito -- Serves traditional Brazilian food in a casual setting and more friendly on the wallet.Been to DOM and Jun Sakamoto on my earlier trips. I want to get to Casa do Porco maybe next time and the Korean restaurant but it all depends who is with me at the time.
Try out Taberna 474 if you are into fresh seafood.
Vagabundo1
03-02-22, 20:35
The downside of a GF is they don't fuck as much on command as working girls.
I will say having a GF is fun.
When in Rome. When in Rio, having a hoar as a GF is something I would recommend for a while.
The downside of a GF is they don't fuck as much on command as working girls.Yes indeed, once they become comfortable, they try to skip it as much as possible, in favor of other activities. Hence, mongering is best.
Axel Heyst
03-03-22, 01:11
The downside of a GF is they don't fuck as much on command as working girls.The downside of a GF is I get tired of them. By the 6th month I start to feel caged no matter how hot she is or what a great girl she was when I first fucked her.
Pre-modern age, having a GF and getting married made sense. Men married virgins from good families to raise families. Going to a bordello once a week or having a mistress if you could afford one was socially acceptable as long as the man looked after his family first. Suffragette ruined everything. LOL. All we mongers are doing nowadays is having a good time after our regular women have gone crazy.
Auto correct by ISG forums omitted some letters due to ' on the letters, etc. ! I am sure most of you can figure that out. ... Just a quick heads-up tip with auto correction, if your report contains "fancy" editing, notations or symbols, that it will most likely get overriden, in some weird way, try the following:
Once you've finalized your report in the ISG Message pad area, simply use, the following, before you upload your report:
"Ctrl-A" and then "Ctrl-C" , to Select / COPY all text.
Then press the "Upload Report" button, to upload your report.
After it uploads, immediately use the "Edit Post" button to bring back the report and;
"Ctrl-A" and then "Ctrl-V" , to Select / PASTE the original version of your report
Then press the "Save Changes" button, to upload your report, again.
This should work about 98% of time and save MOST if not ALL of your original editing in your report.
TiaVoyage25
03-03-22, 02:56
The downside of a GF is they don't fuck as much on command as working girls.Along these lines, I have some funny stories to share this summer when I get back down to Rio! Did you turn off you PM? I tried sending you a message the other day with no luck.
Yes indeed, once they become comfortable, they try to skip it as much as possible, in favor of other activities. Hence, mongering is best.I been fucking the same "gringa branca" for two months now, and already I'm concerned about things falling into the routine LOL!
Vagabundo1
03-03-22, 10:53
Show me a beautiful woman and I will show you a guy who is sick of fucking her.
The downside of a GF is I get tired of them. By the 6th month I start to feel caged no matter how hot she is or what a great girl she was when I first fucked her.
Pre-modern age, having a GF and getting married made sense. Men married virgins from good families to raise families. Going to a bordello once a week or having a mistress if you could afford one was socially acceptable as long as the man looked after his family first. Suffragette ruined everything. LOL. All we mongers are doing nowadays is having a good time after our regular women have gone crazy.
Vagabundo1
03-03-22, 16:25
Dude,
I was fucking a tier 1 terma girl, best ass ever, and we were girlfriend / BF, even took me to her family for Christmas, and then of course, she comes over after her alcoholic mother and is so drunk she pukes all night and I take her puke to the shower. So of course we don't fuck that night. I would never tolerate that with a normal hooker pernoite, I would just get her an uber and throw her out. We did fuck in the morning, and it was always good, and I'd pay her weekly maybe, and we just fucked all the time. But the family. OMFG.
But she was a 18 year old that I would never be fucking in the normal rich world environment. And she brought all her stripper hoar friends over for reverse gang bang weekends including a coordinated Seal team 69 assault on the pool in which we shocked even the Brazilians with all the tits and ass.
I been fucking the same "gringa branca" for two months now, and already I'm concerned about things falling into the routine LOL!
Do girls prefer / perform better in a 4 star hotel room vs an Airbnb flat? Hotel room is smaller than a flat but much nicer and fancier.
Do girls prefer / perform better in a 4 star hotel room vs an Airbnb flat? Hotel room is smaller than a flat but much nicer and fancier.I don't think it would matter as long as it is not a total dump. If it is too nice, they may not want to leave😜.
I had planned to hit boates at night and clinica during the day, but the pernoites were usually so good and lasted late into the morning or early afternoon that I had no energy or desire to hit up a clinica or check out online girls during the day.Sounds like you got great value for your money. About what time at night were you leaving the club with your girl for the evening into the following morning / afternoon?
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SocratesNY
03-08-22, 12:49
Sounds like you got great value for your money. About what time at night were you leaving the club with your girl for the evening into the following morning / afternoon?It varies. There are times we left at 9 pm and other times 1 or 2 am. There are other times we met at 5 or 6pm before we went out to dinner, although this usually was only with repeats.
ThatIndianGuy1
03-08-22, 22:53
Hello,
I will be on the ground in SP for the first time in a few days. I intend to have girls at my hotel from the escort websites as well as visiting girls that host from their own location. My question is when do they pay you? Before the services rendered or after?
Thanks,
TIG.
Context: This was my first visit to Brazil with close to none Portuguese knowledge. I am just another guy out in late 30's and here to share my experience / report.
First things first, thank you! To this forum for amazing tips and recommendations. So here is my time to pay it back to the community.
I had lot of hassle in the flight departing USA (flight got cancelled 3 times) and I ended up reaching Brazil 15 hours later then originally expected. Despite all the hassle I was able to finally land to Brazil around midnight in Rio. Given this is SP forum, I will skip my Rio report (to be posted soon there in Rio group) So after 4 days in Rio, I took domestic flight from Rio - SP.
Landed SP around 4 ish.
Hotel:
- Hotel Grand Mercure So Paulo Ibirapuera. I'd recommend this hotel as it was GF and had no trouble navigating to other places in SP. I find that to be in safe neighborhood as well.
- Tip: Always check with hotel that if it is GF before booking AND also check how close the hotel is from Scandello (more on this later).
Mongering: From my RTFF on this forum, one thing I knew was Scandello is a place to be and it totally live to the hype.Thanks for your useful and nice report.
Some precisions about Hotel Grand Mercure São Paulo Ibirapuera? Dit they ask ID check or anything if your order escort through internet?
EverythingBlue
03-09-22, 00:46
Hello,
I will be on the ground in SP for the first time in a few days. I intend to have girls at my hotel from the escort websites as well as visiting girls that host from their own location. My question is when do they pay you? Before the services rendered or after?
Thanks,
TIG.Man, I must be doing it wrong, I'm usually the one paying the girls! LOL.
In all seriousness, this topic varies by location, but I think in Brazil a best practice is to pay at the end of the night, or end of the session. If a girl is pushy to get paid upfront, it might be a bad sign of bad service to come, or it might not be that way. If making a deal for a pernoite, sometimes it works if you pay half upfront and half after.
Me, I've always paid at the end unless the girl asks, which I've only had 2 ask upfront, I agreed and still had great service, but my instincts were things would be fine. YMMV. If I take a loss one time, to me it's not a deal breaker though.
Hello,
I will be on the ground in SP for the first time in a few days. I intend to have girls at my hotel from the escort websites as well as visiting girls that host from their own location. My question is when do they pay you? Before the services rendered or after?
Thanks,
TIG.I have always paid afterwards. If required to pay upfront, I offer half up front and the rest at the end. I am wary of paying anything up front. Doesn't mean the service will be bad. I have had bad service even with payment afterwards but hat is very rare.
Do girls prefer / perform better in a 4 star hotel room vs an Airbnb flat? Hotel room is smaller than a flat but much nicer and fancier.I too am curious about this. I will be arriving in 2 weeks and will probably rent Airbnb to save some. I am but a humble man with a fixed passive income and bid inflation is ultimately what drove me to get the hot-pocker Janssen vax. I have immunity anyway since I got delta quite badly last thanksgiving. I will probably go to Curitiba also.
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