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The Critic
03-09-22, 18:54
Do girls prefer / perform better in a 4 star hotel room vs an Airbnb flat? Hotel room is smaller than a flat but much nicer and fancier.
I too am curious about this. I will be arriving in 2 weeks and will probably rent Airbnb to save some.The question or concern can't really be answered. You're proposing we have insight into the mind of the provider, specifically does a Mongers accommodations factor in the level of service. Probably Not with the exception of Luxury Accommodations.
Probably the main factors that determine level of service:
- Your personality, hygiene, and looks, etc.
- How much are you paying and does that amount really satisfies their sense of worth for the session.
- Does the provider genuinely like you?
- Are you doing anything intrinsically (subjective) different from other Mongers?
- Could be other reasons but not really trying to account for all variables.
If the accommodations are equal or greater than what their use to and provide a level of safety and they are comfortable you should be ok. Now if you have luxury accommodation regardless of type only that could provide a slight (unquantifiable) enhancement remember all providers like luxury or the appearance of luxury.
To ponder anymore over this is futile.
Gabbarsing
03-09-22, 20:09
Thanks for your useful and nice report.
Some precisions about Hotel Grand Mercure So Paulo Ibirapuera? Dit they ask ID check or anything if your order escort through internet?Nop. Only thing is you need a keycard to operate elevator, so you have to come around front desk area to receive girl but no big deal to me.
LionsNTigers
03-10-22, 00:14
Long time reader, first time poster (for Sao Paulo anyway, I had a nice streak going in the Shanghai forum some time ago).
Big thanks for all the reading and notes, this place is definitely great in terms of ease since it's not illegal and you don't have to deal with all the two-call bullshit and other nonsense in other parts of the world.
I am staying at the Renaissance, just here for a week. Tuesday night was coming back from a walk and on the phone and this fantastic looking woman was outside the hotel and clearly wanted to talk, but I hadn't figured things out yet and didn't engage. Maybe one night before I leave. But confirmation that they girls are here, although maybe not allowed inside (there is some big celebrity band staying here this week so security a bit tighter than normal).
Anyway, I looked for a clinica close enough to the hotel to make walking worthwhile, and settled on one spot that seemed to have 3 or 4 clinicas right next to each other. Av. Batataes, 558. I checked the spot on google maps street view but couldn't quite figure out where these would be, so I bravely wandered over around 9:00. Got to the spot and it's an apartment building with a restaurant on the ground floor. So a bit confused I looked around and got on the websites and picked the one called Massagem Mix. Whatsapp'd them and got a fairly quick response, offered there were two girls (Luana and Dani) and prices. Talked me past the front desk and up to their floor, and to the door. Dani answer the door, it's a small 2 bedroom apartment, two girls as advertised but no one else in the place.
I picked Luana as she was the smaller of the two. No English but didn't really require much communication. She left me in the room for a minute (simple setup with a chair and a bed) so I stripped and was ready when she came back. She smiled and got to it, dropped her (tiny) skirt and started with what can vaguely be referred to as a massage. Some lotion, bit of a handjob, then started BBBJ. I pulled her around for 69 and ate her ass for a while, which was awesome. Everything you want in a lovely bunda. She then grabbed a condom and offered, which I politely accepted. She put it on and saddled up, and that was that. Cleaned up a bit, got some water (covered in sweat, was hot and active). We tried to chat a bit, she had me flip and gave me more of a massage for a little while, and then asked if I wanted round 2. Being a gentleman, I again politely accepted her offer. Condom, doggie, pounded away but found number 2 quite elusive. So I took off the condom and got her on her knees and proceeded to FF her for some time. Perfect eye contact and just lovely, right in front of a mirror. Finished that way on her face and mouth, which she actually seemed to like (laughed a bit after we were done).
I gave her the payment and a bit extra (500, I'm aware that is a sizeable tip) but she put in the work and I enjoyed it.
So in summary. Not really a clinica, just a couple chicks in an apartment, but it was fine and a nice introduction to Sao Paulo for me. Probably not feeling another round tonight, but there is always tomorrow and I'll be back in a few weeks to try some other options. May yet try to pickup in the lobby, who knows.
Do girls prefer / perform better in a 4 star hotel room vs an Airbnb flat? Hotel room is smaller than a flat but much nicer and fancier.I wonder if sometimes AirBnb (or private apartment) would not be repulsive for girls? I mean, a hotel gives them a "guarantee of safety". Compared to a well known hotel room, will a girl accept an Airbnb invitation less? Especially if the girl doesn't know you well or you if invite her over the internet to your accommodation? Is that a factor?
My last trip was in 2018. I have been missing it greatly! Joao (RIP) introduced me to Tangara my first trip and I was hooked. I will be arriving on March 19 and returning to USA on April 3. However I have to work about 2 hours drive away on 21, 22, 23 and 28, 29.
I will be staying in Jardins or Moema so if any of you would like to meet, I will be there.
My experience was mostly the clinicas because of Joao. I did try one photoaccompanhantes which was one of the worst disasters I have experienced. The rest has been wonderful!
I have three girls who have kept in contact with me from the previous five visits. They are all excited to have me back so it will be interesting how my time goes.
...Is that a factor?I don't know. Most apartments are pretty nice with doorman. Some apartments are built like a prison with double gates and security in tower so to speak. LOL.
Landed in Sao Paulo early in the morning after a long journey. Very tired and jet lagged still.
Some good and bad luck at the airport. They sent me to a trainee immigration officer who took at-least 15 minutes to stamp me through. Everyone else was breezing past me!
I went on to declare the cash I was bringing in (I had submitted the E-DBV form to customs before my trip and had a paper with me), walking through the "goods to declare" line I was totally prepared to be taken in to a room and asked questions with the money being counted etc. Lo and behold the guy took one look at the paper, signed and stamped it and off I went. Whole process took about 3 minutes. Didn't even bother to look at the cash.
Took an Uber to my hotel and got my room upgraded, lady at reception was kind enough to check me in early as well. Showered and went to a nearby cambio. They told me they are only allowed to exchange USD 1000 per day per exchange. Some bullshit exchange law. I could however go to multiple exchanges to exchange amounts over that.
Back to the hotel and off to sleep.
I wake up starving, order some very very expensive room service. (need to find local places to eat). Shower again and off to the mecca of our hobby. Scandallo!
Now my impressions of the place might be slightly scandalous.
Maybe it was a bad day generally, or the fact that it wasn't a weekend but I found the quality of the girls to not quite be as star studded as I had come to expect. Maybe my expectations were set too high or my standards. I don't know. I don't think I saw many above 7's. I few rare sprinkled 8's in my book. That was it.
Don't get me wrong 7's and 8's are good and I did sample a fine young girl in the room. She was good, tame in the club itself but very bubbly in the room. All was as expected not a bad experience at all but it did not blow my mind; maybe due to the short session. She spoke almost perfect English so that was a big reason why I chose her to get a lay of the land. I am calling her today whenever she wakes up which will probably be at like 4 pm LOL. I'm going to go around some parts of the city with her. My very own translator eh! I don't think I'm going to fuck her again though. I'll probably also want to meet her again in Scandallo tonight and ask her to introduce me to her friends or if I need help translating with someone. She's a nice friendly girl that way by the name of Gabriella.
Found out from her that a lot of Chinese and Koreans frequent Scandallo, on some days they make up 70% of the dudes in the room. Just an interesting tid bit.
Food was also very average LOL, ordered the breaded chicken with some kind of sauce. Maybe I just had a bad day at Scandallo. Still not making final judgements until I spend a few more nights with a wider variety of women.
The crowd in general had many Brazilian men who tend to get a little drunk and then very loud and handsy with the ladies. 3 of the girls there told me they don't prefer Brazilian men and generally gravitate towards Asian men.
The staff, security and waiters were all super friendly. Quite a few spoke English or enough words to get by. A surprising amount of women also spoke English. Some like Gabriella were near perfect in the language.
Paid 1 k to Gabi, 230 Real for the room and 555 Real while checking out. For that amount I had 2 waters, 1 orange juice, 1 Black Label with Coke, a pack of cigarettes with a lighter and a meal at the restaurant.
Another piece of very specific and random advice- when checking in to the rooms at Scandallo. Ask the lady at the counter to give large condoms. The small ones barely fit halfway and the well endowed gentlemen will tend to have an issue here.
Xx.
Woke up very early today due to jet lag. Had a hearty breakfast. I'm off now to another fucking cambio to exchange dollars. Very annoying.
I'd just like to thank everyone in the forum that answered questions and to all the members that have posted detailed reports and experiences in the past. Without those posts, I would never have come to SP or know how to do anything. Obrigado.
Will try and report again tomorrow when I have more to share. Please excuse any grammar or structural errors in the report.
You paid 1000 for 1 hour?
Landed in Sao Paulo early in the morning after a long journey. Very tired and jet lagged still.
Some good and bad luck at the airport. They sent me to a trainee immigration officer who took at-least 15 minutes to stamp me through. Everyone else was breezing past me!
I went on to declare the cash I was bringing in (I had submitted the E-DBV form to customs before my trip and had a paper with me), walking through the "goods to declare" line I was totally prepared to be taken in to a room and asked questions with the money being counted etc. Lo and behold the guy took one look at the paper, signed and stamped it and off I went. Whole process took about 3 minutes. Didn't even bother to look at the cash.
Took an Uber to my hotel and got my room upgraded, lady at reception was kind enough to check me in early as well. Showered and went to a nearby cambio. They told me they are only allowed to exchange USD 1000 per day per exchange. Some bullshit exchange law. I could however go to multiple exchanges to exchange amounts over that..
... Found out from her that a lot of Chinese and Koreans frequent Scandallo, on some days they make up 70% of the dudes in the room. Just an interesting tid bit. ... Good update thus far, keep 'em coming!
So do you recall if your date, Gabriella, thought the number of Chinese and Koreans frequenting Scandallo, is a recent thing or always been that way?
Just curious and was wondering, if our Chinese and Korean mongering brothers are perhaps shifting their activities from places like the AC in the Philippines and perhaps temporarily focusing on giving Brazil more of a spin?
70% is super exaggerated. 20% is the ceiling and that's on a rare day.
It's not Chinese / Korean or whatever race that they like. Its the money that they like and they know they can get more from Asians and foreigners. Girls at Scandallo are there for the money 100% and don't care how famous and like-able the client is. If the price is right for them. You win. They always tell me how much they like me and how good looking I am. And I know for sure they are lying! LOL.
Good update thus far, keep 'em coming!
So do you recall if your date, Gabriella, thought the number of Chinese and Koreans frequenting Scandallo, is a recent thing or always been that way?
Just curious and was wondering, if our Chinese and Korean mongering brothers are perhaps shifting their activities from places like the AC in the Philippines and perhaps temporarily focusing on giving Brazil more of a spin?
SamaRiding
03-12-22, 08:47
Good update thus far, keep 'em coming!
So do you recall if your date, Gabriella, thought the number of Chinese and Koreans frequenting Scandallo, is a recent thing or always been that way?
Just curious and was wondering, if our Chinese and Korean mongering brothers are perhaps shifting their activities from places like the AC in the Philippines and perhaps temporarily focusing on giving Brazil more of a spin?There is a large Asian community in SP, mostly Japanese and Chinese. You will see groups of local Asian men in Scandallo. They live in Brazil and maybe even born in Brazil. I would say the large majority of Asian men in Scandallo are local. I met a few Asian guys from the US. Maybe in the past there were travelers from Asia, but since COVID I have not met an Asian monger from Asia in SP due to the travel restrictions on leaving and returning to those countries.
SamaRiding
03-12-22, 09:13
Now my impressions of the place might be slightly scandalous.
Maybe it was a bad day generally, or the fact that it wasn't a weekend but I found the quality of the girls to not quite be as star studded as I had come to expect. Maybe my expectations were set too high or my standards. I don't know. I don't think I saw many above 7's. I few rare sprinkled 8's in my book. That was it.Scandallo is great because of the classy atmosphere of being surrounding by hundreds of beautiful girls who you spend time with and then take to the room with usually great service. Very few places in the world you can still do this. Scandallo girls come in different sizes and flavors so there are usually girls for all preferences. But they may not be most gorgeous girls that SP has to offer. Some online escort girls are hot. From your budget, sound like you prefer very high end escorts. The next level in SP are the pink sheet girls who are the models, TV personalities and influencers who Command a much higher fee than scandallo. They are word of mouth and you have to be introduced. I haven't been introduced but I am not sure they are worth it. I wouldn't mind trying it though, so if anybody knows a way of introduction, PM me please!
I'm seasoned enough from my AMP adventures in the Pacific. I'm not necessarily looking for the same thing but are there any specific clinicas with an Oriental lineup?
I see SP has a large Japa population and there's no shortage of Acompanhantes. I want a double with 2 Japas / hapas since I felt robbed of that living in Hawaii where the top tier of local hotties are Porta / Jap / White mixes (Hapa-proper) but these days are only a tiny percentage of the population. Most of the females local to Hawaii look like oompa loompa rejects. I hated living there but at least I had AMPS and 19 yo mahus! Everything else there sucks.
If there's a cheap hotel guys lmk otherwise I've got to book an Airbnb soon. Arrive the 23rd and might try to stay in Brasil around 60 days before going to Colombia.
SamaRiding
03-12-22, 09:27
I wonder if sometimes AirBnb (or private apartment) would not be repulsive for girls? I mean, a hotel gives them a "guarantee of safety". Compared to a well known hotel room, will a girl accept an Airbnb invitation less? Especially if the girl doesn't know you well or you if invite her over the internet to your accommodation? Is that a factor?If you met the girl at a boate or you have previously sessions with you, she wouldn't care if you are a hotel or apartment. Some online girls only do hotels or motels. 95% of the scene are locals, so it's usually their apartments or love motels for out calls. If you go for an Airbnb, get a nice one with a concierge desk for safety (for girl and you). There are many to choose from and ch4kc the visitor policy.
SamaRiding
03-12-22, 09:35
Anyway, I looked for a clinica close enough to the hotel to make walking worthwhile, and settled on one spot that seemed to have 3 or 4 clinicas right next to each other. Av. Batataes, 558. I checked the spot on google maps street view but couldn't quite figure out where these would be, so I bravely wandered over around 9:00. Got to the spot and it's an apartment building with a restaurant on the ground floor. So a bit confused I looked around and got on the websites and picked the one called Massagem Mix. Whatsapp'd them and got a fairly quick response, offered there were two girls (Luana and Dani) and prices. Talked me past the front desk and up to their floor, and to the door. Dani answer the door, it's a small 2 bedroom apartment, two girls as advertised but no one else in the place.Batataes 558 is not a clinica but a Girl friendly large apt building with several massage places in apartments and has a bunch of online girls in apartments. Try a real Clinica in moema. Search for moema Clinica, someone recently made a nice list of them. There are clinicas spread out around SP and in Jardins also near you.
Good update thus far, keep 'em coming!
So do you recall if your date, Gabriella, thought the number of Chinese and Koreans frequenting Scandallo, is a recent thing or always been that way?
Just curious and was wondering, if our Chinese and Korean mongering brothers are perhaps shifting their activities from places like the AC in the Philippines and perhaps temporarily focusing on giving Brazil more of a spin?I doubt they are from Asia. My guess is most are local Japanese. There are some Chinese but if you look at the food influence and the restaurants, Chinese don't have the presence like Japanese. It is not the Asian mongering places are closed. It is that they lock themselves in. Many have to quarantine when the go home. Let's hope they keep it that way. LOL.
So continuing from the previous post, woke up very early (should be my last day of jet lag hopefully) and went off to exchange after breakfast.
On the way to the cambio I've been going to, I noticed there was a Santander a block away. Made a mental note to carry my card next time to withdraw cash there as well. I was hoping to spot a ATM in Scandallo, no luck.
So didn't do much during the day after I got back. Just sat down with work which lasted most of the day. I did want to call Gabi to my hotel for a fuck or 3. She finally messaged much later in the day that she wouldn't be able to come to me before 8 pm. Fuck that. I also asked if she would be willing to bareback. Sent her a scan of my report. Hard NO! Very rare that this happens but I understand so didn't push it.
By the evening, I'm tired from a combination of working and jet lag. This exhaustion is really fucking my game here!
Anyways I like to reach around 10-10:30 PM.
Things are slightly better LOL. Maybe spot a few more 8's tonight (and one drop dead banging 10/10- more on this later). Compared to the day before, a lot of them didn't seem to speak English today or at-least the ones I was talking to. Many uninteresting birds walked up to me and asked me if we could speak on translator. I just politely said that I'm still looking around which they didn't understand of course so they just walk away.
My tiredness at this point is starting to give me thoughts about walking away and calling it a night. Just when this light skinned big booty girl by the name of Jessica walks up to me. First girl who could speak broken English tonight, she ain't no Gabi but this will do.
She wanted 1500 for an hour! I paid 800. She told me she does everything and will make my head explode. I specifically asked her all the usual questions. BBBJ, how many loads, etc. Before we went off to the rooms.
She wasn't very wrong in the head exploding bit, she knew what she was doing. Fantastic blowjob and a great passionate fuck. I think that was my first taste of that Brazilian energy and passion everyone on here keeps talking about. I want more! But sadly that was it. She wouldn't fuck again! I told her we had agreed to two shots. She said we can only do one. WTF, but honestly I didn't argue. Its not worth the hassle to me and I was on the verge of passing out from exhaustion anyway.
So another mixed day for me in SP. I'm confident things will get better as I keep going. I feel like I need a girl with the friendly girl next door kind of vibe like Gabi, performance like Jessica while looking a lot better than both of them. (tall order, I know).
The irony here fellow mongers is that while waiting outside for my Uber, a Range Rover pulls up and 2 dudes and 1 absolute angel step out of the car. A banger in my books. Now I don't know if she was a civilian with one of the men or an escort. She was certainly dressed as an escort. But my god, tall, buxom, perfect features and she was speaking English to boot! What I wouldn't give.
Some observations -.
I have noticed more of a crowd comes in later. Like after midnight.
Ate some sushi at the restaurant, it wasn't very good. I feel like I'm starting to sound very picky here but honest to god it was horrible.
While checking out, the cashiers were flooded with what seemed like Japanese men (from the language they were speaking) taking usually thin white girls back to their hotels.
I was approached with an offer for a threesome twice. All four girls here didn't speak english. It would have been a disaster had I accepted their proposal I think.
I was curious while leaving Scandallo yesterday, about the DJ / Club Area. I was wondering what one of the VIP tables along the sides there costs? Will ask when I go tonight. Not much of a drinker but still nice to know.
Will report more tomorrow, should be firing on all cylinders from here on out. Will try and session with multiple women at Scandallo tonight to find a better fit.
Yes, I agree. Don't seem to be more than 20% of the crowd. 70 is just what the bird said.
70% is super exaggerated. 20% is the ceiling and that's on a rare day.
It's not Chinese / Korean or whatever race that they like. Its the money that they like and they know they can get more from Asians and foreigners. Girls at Scandallo are there for the money 100% and don't care how famous and like-able the client is. If the price is right for them. You win. They always tell me how much they like me and how good looking I am. And I know for sure they are lying! LOL.
You hit the nail on the head sama. I prefer eastern European features with mongering in Russia and Dubai being my favorites. You can get supermodels in both countries if the budget is right. Not sure will be able to crack SP pink sheet this time around. Would love to try if given a chance for sure.
Scandallo is great because of the classy atmosphere of being surrounding by hundreds of beautiful girls who you spend time with and then take to the room with usually great service. Very few places in the world you can still do this. Scandallo girls come in different sizes and flavors so there are usually girls for all preferences. But they may not be most gorgeous girls that SP has to offer. Some online escort girls are hot. From your budget, sound like you prefer very high end escorts. The next level in SP are the pink sheet girls who are the models, TV personalities and influencers who Command a much higher fee than scandallo. They are word of mouth and you have to be introduced. I haven't been introduced but I am not sure they are worth it. I wouldn't mind trying it though, so if anybody knows a way of introduction, PM me please!
I think it is a YMMV situation even at Scandallo. That is why I tell others to lower their exceptions after I have been there.
Logic will tell you it is unlikely that it is full of high quality girls that satisfy everyone. Scandallo has higher percentage of higher quality girls relatively speaking. You are not going to find the place full of university girls but you are more likely to find them here than elsewhere, that is the way I look at it and what one should keep in mind when reading reports. The reports are true in that they report one's personal experience but it may not be the same for you.
...Paid 1 k to Gabi...I would tell them my friend told me it's 500 and see how they respond.
LionsNTigers
03-12-22, 18:14
Batataes 558 is not a clinica but a Girl friendly large apt building with several massage places in apartments and has a bunch of online girls in apartments. Try a real Clinica in moema. Search for moema Clinica, someone recently made a nice list of them. There are clinicas spread out around SP and in Jardins also near you.Roger that, will be back in a few weeks and am planning to go to Prime in Moema, the hardest part is timing. Often not leaving work until after 6, hour commute in the city at that time, and then if I have dinner with the team I am not out until 8:30 earliest.
I know Prime closes at 9:00, can I show up at 8:45 and still session? I tried whatsapping their number but didn't get a response.
LionsNTigers
03-12-22, 18:34
So for my last night in Sao Paulo this week I finished dinner too late to head to a real clinica like I wanted, so I stuck around the hotel and hung out in the lobby to finish some calls and emails and check the scene. There were a few working girls making conversation or just sitting trying to make eye contact. I saw a few make their way to rooms and was kind of dialing in on a decision when this girl walks through who was fucking stunning, like I assumed she was there with the other Eurotrash on vacation. Stunning outfit, skinny, beautiful, didn't look the part at all. She sat in a spot at the bar that I couldn't see her so I thought she just walked through and left, wasn't until quite a bit later I saw her parked at the bar waiting like the others.
She had ordered some food and I decided to wait until she was done, getting close to 10:30 when she finally finished. She started to move around the lobby a bit and I was just about to sit down to talk with her when one of my colleagues pulled up in the taxi so I had to make a story why I was down there, and she tucked in with a group of brits. So I sat kind of nearby until that finished and she came and sat near me, so I started the conversation. No English on her side, had to use the translator but that was fine. Made some stupid small talk that quickly transferred to an offer to "make the quarto" which confused the hell out of me, but she set me straight. She started at 2000, which I said I have 700, and she went for 1000, so I said fuck it and agreed (recognize it's a bit over market).
So we headed upstairs and she showered and did her thing, came out in an incredible little outfit (black one piece thing that covered little and accentuated everything, lots of straps and ties, turned her into a little Christmas present). She was something, just a tiny thing but fit and toned and all kinds of right. Got on the bed and explored a bit, I got to unwrapping my present and eating every inch of that body. She wasn't super into it herself but went along with everything, no kissing though which was a disappointment. Eventually pulled out the hat and got on top where I gave her the best 60 seconds of her life.
Finished up and cleaned up a little and she snuggled in and we went to sleep. Unfortunately just an awful night's sleep (not because of her, it was just too hot in the room and I had an early flight to catch so never got rested) but really enjoyed sleeping spooned up and intertwined with that hot little body. She was really sweet and adorable. Woke up around 5:30 and started to play with her a little, sadly she shut that down and decided to get up and leave.
So overall like a 7/10 experience, checked the box in a big way for some aspects, but missed the boat on others. I did get her WhatsApp number and have chatted briefly, but not sure I will contact her again or not. Body and beauty were a solid, world class 9/10 so there is that.
Advice from the experts here. Is a future visit likely to be better form building on the history, or probably more of the same? I won't have much luxury to take her to dinner and won't be here on a weekend.
EverythingBlue
03-12-22, 23:37
So didn't do much during the day after I got back. Just sat down with work which lasted most of the day. I did want to call Gabi to my hotel for a fuck or 3. She finally messaged much later in the day that she wouldn't be able to come to me before 8 pm. Fuck that. I also asked if she would be willing to bareback. Sent her a scan of my report. Hard NO! Very rare that this happens but I understand so didn't push it.
Anyways I like to reach around 10-10:30 PM.
Things are slightly better LOL. Maybe spot a few more 8's tonight (and one drop dead banging 10/10- more on this later). Compared to the day before, a lot of them didn't seem to speak English today or at-least the ones I was talking to. Many uninteresting birds walked up to me and asked me if we could speak on translator. I just politely said that I'm still looking around which they didn't understand of course so they just walk away.
Some observations -.
I was curious while leaving Scandallo yesterday, about the DJ / Club Area. I was wondering what one of the VIP tables along the sides there costs? Will ask when I go tonight. Not much of a drinker but still nice to know.
Will report more tomorrow, should be firing on all cylinders from here on out. Will try and session with multiple women at Scandallo tonight to find a better fit.Try to negotiate the bareback in person at Scandallo instead, be ready to walk away if this is a big deal to you, but you can find girls willing to do it. Your reports remind me of my first trip and visits to Scandallo, I was also not impressed initially, but eventually got to enjoy it more and I fared better on my second trip.
Let us know about the VIP tables, I was also curious about that. As far as English speaking girls, IMO I would stay away from that, usually those girls are more traveled and thus expect a higher wage for less service, they are jaded in some ways and thus not as enthusiastic.
I appreciate the reports, it inspires me to try to make my way back soon.
She had ordered some food and I decided to wait until she was done, getting close to 10:30 when she finally finished. She started to move around the lobby a bit and I was just about to sit down to talk with her when one of my colleagues pulled up in the taxi so I had to make a story why I was down there, and she tucked in with a group of brits. So I sat kind of nearby until that finished and she came and sat near me, so I started the conversation. No English on her side, had to use the translator but that was fine. Made some stupid small talk that quickly transferred to an offer to "make the quarto" which confused the hell out of me, but she set me straight. She started at 2000, which I said I have 700, and she went for 1000, so I said fuck it and agreed (recognize it's a bit over market).
So we headed upstairs and she showered and did her thing, came out in an incredible little outfit (black one piece thing that covered little and accentuated everything, lots of straps and ties, turned her into a little Christmas present). She was something, just a tiny thing but fit and toned and all kinds of right. Got on the bed and explored a bit, I got to unwrapping my present and eating every inch of that body. She wasn't super into it herself but went along with everything, no kissing though which was a disappointment. Eventually pulled out the hat and got on top where I gave her the best 60 seconds of her life.
Finished up and cleaned up a little and she snuggled in and we went to sleep. Unfortunately just an awful night's sleep (not because of her, it was just too hot in the room and I had an early flight to catch so never got rested) but really enjoyed sleeping spooned up and intertwined with that hot little body. She was really sweet and adorable. Woke up around 5:30 and started to play with her a little, sadly she shut that down and decided to get up and leave.
So overall like a 7/10 experience, checked the box in a big way for some aspects, but missed the boat on others. I did get her WhatsApp number and have chatted briefly, but not sure I will contact her again or not. Body and beauty were a solid, world class 9/10 so there is that.
Advice from the experts here. Is a future visit likely to be better form building on the history, or probably more of the same? I won't have much luxury to take her to dinner and won't be here on a weekend.This is at the Renaissance? Haha I never ventured to try taking a girl upstairs myself but saw relatively good talent frequently. I'm surprised about the no kissing, and she spent the night with you but only allowed you to fuck once? WTH. Maybe she stayed because she lived far and didn't want to go home at that time. At least she got the best 60 seconds of her life, LOL that made me chuckle.
Thanks for your report, great story telling.
LionsNTigers
03-12-22, 23:43
This is at the Renaissance? Haha I never ventured to try taking a girl upstairs myself but saw relatively good talent frequently. I'm surprised about the no kissing, and she spent the night with you but only allowed you to fuck once? WTH. Maybe she stayed because she lived far and didn't want to go home at that time. At least she got the best 60 seconds of her life, LOL that made me chuckle.
Thanks for your report, great story telling.Yes, sorry it was the Renaissance in Jardins, and the girl's name is Leticia. I thought I put a dash in the title but I guess I missed it.
Didn't want to add to the confusion.
She didn't live far, I uber'd her home in the morning and it was a short ride, like 10 minutes. I probably won't repeat, I'm a variety guy anyway, even in my US locations I have only done repeaters a couple times. That is why the clinicas appeal to me, they sound similar (though better) than the massage places in Shanghai. The boates sound a bit like the saunas that used to predominate there, although those saunas were awesome, they seem mostly gone now.
I strongly concur with señor Everythingblue! I think his is advice is spot on about avoiding the pros who speak English with a high proficiency. Not only do they tend to quote higher prices for their gringo clients but the ones who have traveled to Europe for "work" are oftentimes noticeably more hardened from being in the industry for such a lengthy tenure that they do eventually become a bit jaded and perform more mechanical in bed. This is just my experience. I've got one rule that I never stray from and that's if a garota speaks English or mentions having previously traveled to Europe at some point then I run for the hills. YMMV.
70% is super exaggerated. 20% is the ceiling and that's on a rare day. It's not Chinese / Korean or whatever race that they like. Its the money ...
There is a large Asian community in SP, mostly Japanese and Chinese... I would say the large majority of Asian men in Scandallo are local. I met a few Asian guys from the US.
I doubt they are from Asia. My guess is most are local Japanese. There are some Chinese but if you look at the food influence and the restaurants, Chinese don't have the presence like Japanese...Yes, I am definitely aware of SP having the largest Japanese diaspora outside of Japan and have reported on this several times. The Asian men in the conversation with Gabriella specifically mentioned Chinese and Korean, and thought perhaps this could be an interesting trend to watch.
Thanks to all for the clarifying and I appreciate varying views and opinions. Definitely gives me a more robust picture of the Asian influences at Scandallo.
So for my last night in Sao Paulo this week I finished dinner too late to head to a real clinica like I wanted, so I stuck around the hotel and hung out in the lobby to finish some calls and emails and check the scene. There were a few working girls making conversation or just sitting trying to make eye contact. I saw a few make their way to rooms and was kind of dialing in on a decision when this girl walks through who was fucking stunning, like I assumed she was there with the other Eurotrash on vacation. Stunning outfit, skinny, beautiful, didn't look the part at all. She sat in a spot at the bar that I couldn't see her so I thought she just walked through and left, wasn't until quite a bit later I saw her parked at the bar waiting like the others.
She had ordered some food and I decided to wait until she was done, getting close to 10:30 when she finally finished. She started to move around the lobby a bit and I was just about to sit down to talk with her when one of my colleagues pulled up in the taxi so I had to make a story why I was down there, and she tucked in with a group of brits. So I sat kind of nearby until that finished and she came and sat near me, so I started the conversation. No English on her side, had to use the translator but that was fine. Made some stupid small talk that quickly transferred to an offer to "make the quarto" which confused the hell out of me, but she set me straight. She started at 2000, which I said I have 700, and she went for 1000, so I said fuck it and agreed (recognize it's a bit over market).
So we headed upstairs and she showered and did her thing, came out in an incredible little outfit (black one piece thing that covered little and accentuated everything, lots of straps and ties, turned her into a little Christmas present). She was something, just a tiny thing but fit and toned and all kinds of right. Got on the bed and explored a bit, I got to unwrapping my present and eating every inch of that body. She wasn't super into it herself but went along with everything, no kissing though which was a disappointment. Eventually pulled out the hat and got on top where I gave her the best 60 seconds of her life.
Finished up and cleaned up a little and she snuggled in and we went to sleep. Unfortunately just an awful night's sleep (not because of her, it was just too hot in the room and I had an early flight to catch so never got rested) but really enjoyed sleeping spooned up and intertwined with that hot little body. She was really sweet and adorable. Woke up around 5:30 and started to play with her a little, sadly she shut that down and decided to get up and leave.
So overall like a 7/10 experience, checked the box in a big way for some aspects, but missed the boat on others. I did get her WhatsApp number and have chatted briefly, but not sure I will contact her again or not. Body and beauty were a solid, world class 9/10 so there is that.
Advice from the experts here. Is a future visit likely to be better form building on the history, or probably more of the same? I won't have much luxury to take her to dinner and won't be here on a weekend.Doesn't surprise me one bit. Something similar happened to me at the Ren also.
I had my fill for the weekend but had a few hours to kill before my flight back home. So went down to the bar to use up the free drink and snack chits they gave out because the lounge was closed. Saw a hot girl sitting by herself and she kept smiling over at me. Knew she was a working girl so I was like "what the hell. Get one last one in before the flight. " We started talking and agreed to 400 for an hour which included everything. Go up to the room and she changes in the bathroom. She says lay down to offer me a massage and I was like ok. I am not into massages so I turn over after a bit and pull her down to kiss and she says she doesn't do that. The 400 was for a massage and a CBJ. Started to laugh and told her to get the fuck out. She said I owed her some money since she came up. I told her get the fuck out or I call security.
Out she went, I packed up my shot and walked downstairs to check out. Sure enough she is still at the bar and now has a ok gringo guy in her trap. I guess these girls think that due to translation, they can pull that sort of shit.
Never talked to another one at the hotel bar again.
“The state of São Paulo is moving to end the mandatory use of a mask also in closed environments on the 23rd of this month. Governor plans to take action before leaving office at the end of March.” https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2022/03/doria-diz-que-acabara-com-uso-de-mascara-em-sp-daqui-a-11-dias.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw.
I strongly concur with seor Everythingblue! I think his is advice is spot on about avoiding the pros who speak English with a high proficiency. Not only do they tend to quote higher prices for their gringo clients but the ones who have traveled to Europe for "work" are oftentimes noticeably more hardened from being in the industry for such a lengthy tenure that they do eventually become a bit jaded and perform more mechanical in bed. This is just my experience. I've got one rule that I never stray from and that's if a garota speaks English or mentions having previously traveled to Europe at some point then I run for the hills. YMMV.
Doesn't surprise me one bit. Something similar happened to me at the Ren also.
I had my fill for the weekend but had a few hours to kill before my flight back home. So went down to the bar to use up the free drink and snack chits they gave out because the lounge was closed. Saw a hot girl sitting by herself and she kept smiling over at me. Knew she was a working girl so I was like "what the hell. Get one last one in before the flight. " We started talking and agreed to 400 for an hour which included everything. Go up to the room and she changes in the bathroom. She says lay down to offer me a massage and I was like ok. I am not into massages so I turn over after a bit and pull her down to kiss and she says she doesn't do that. The 400 was for a massage and a CBJ. Started to laugh and told her to get the fuck out. She said I owed her some money since she came up. I told her get the fuck out or I call security..All fine points. Seems like google translate can be man's best wingman. A soon as I get out of the airport I need to go to the mall where I here the Tim store will give you a sim card using your passport ID.
The state of So Paulo is moving to end the mandatory use of a mask also in closed environments on the 23rd of this month. Governor plans to take action before leaving office at the end of March. https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2022/03/doria-diz-que-acabara-com-uso-de-mascara-em-sp-daqui-a-11-dias.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw.That would be wonderful to coincide with my arrival. I booked Ibis Ibirapuera for 5 nights, location looks unbeatable and it was the most affordable option, hopefully there's no exorbitant cleaning fee. Booked for 2 of course. I'm considering going to Rio after, or Curitiba for my long awaited Gaucha safari.
SamaRiding
03-13-22, 09:15
Roger that, will be back in a few weeks and am planning to go to Prime in Moema, the hardest part is timing. Often not leaving work until after 6, hour commute in the city at that time, and then if I have dinner with the team I am not out until 8:30 earliest.
I know Prime closes at 9:00, can I show up at 8:45 and still session? I tried whatsapping their number but didn't get a response.Unfortunately not. Things start closing down around 7-8 pm. Most girls are leaving by then or are in rooms for the last sessions. There is one late night Clínica which I haven't tried. I believe it's 300 r per hour.
Savanas CLínica de Massagem.
+55 11 3051-8512.
https://goo.gl/maps/HHvdfG2sthohtaCX7
As much discussed, you can try Scandallo. Or get an online girl at SPLove or Clubmodel.
I strongly concur with seor Everythingblue! I think his is advice is spot on about avoiding the pros who speak English with a high proficiency. Not only do they tend to quote higher prices for their gringo clients but the ones who have traveled to Europe for "work" are oftentimes noticeably more hardened from being in the industry for such a lengthy tenure that they do eventually become a bit jaded and perform more mechanical in bed. This is just my experience. I've got one rule that I never stray from and that's if a garota speaks English or mentions having previously traveled to Europe at some point then I run for the hills. YMMV.I said something similar 10 years ago LOL. Avoid ones that have been to the US and Dubai.
Also most are honest about how long they've been working when asked.
50% had no father, 50% have kid (s) in their teens but the MILFS seems to perform better.
Things are looking up on my adventures.
Woke up at the right time for a change. Went off to the exchange I usually go to which is SP Mundi Cambio. Very friendly and professional people.
Closed! LOL, went to a Bradesco bank a street away, CLOSED! Should have done my research before heading out, everything is closed on weekends. Maybe I did read it on the forum but don't remember.
During the day, while at the hotel I contacted a girl from one of the websites online. Super pretty and had a few reviews on gpguia. So booked her to come to me the next day. More on her in the next report.
Headed to Scandallo at around 10 pm. Really feeling it today, much more energy.
Less crowded. The security guys are super chill and helpful, since I've been going 3 days on the trot; they now recognize me and shake my hand. I find it quite funny, one of them casually told me on entering " you take 3 pussy today, its better than 1 pussy".
Had some kind of Brazilian meaty dish at the restaurant, it was good!
So back at the bar area again, smoking cigarettes, looking around. I've become a chimney since I've come to SP.
I find that a lot of the girls here are just slightly over their prime. I mean you would look at one and think damn she must have been a smoke show even a few years ago. But now I can see the age on their faces the closer I get to them. These girls are usually busty and bursting from all angles. A lot of silicone, a lot of facial fillers and Botox faces on display. Some how that just don't float my boat.
Then there's another category of girls here, very petite, usually white, and cute. No ass or tits and the Asian men are all over them like bees to honey. One girl told me she dresses in certain outfits just to make her more attractive to these men. There was a girl walking around in a school girl outfit with glasses on. I did fancy one of them, but right as I was approaching her she got scooped up by a dude.
I have also realized I just sub-consciously prefer girls that speak English. Maybe there is a better connect for me. I find it very cumbersome to keep typing on a translator app on the phone. It breaks the natural flow of a conversation and thus a connection.
Anyways I spot Jessica, the girl that screwed me over the day before. She's looking good, and she walks right up to me and brushes johnny and starts kissing me on the neck and cheek. She seems to have forgotten that I was upset with her, and I seem to have NOT forgotten what a good fuck she was. I want her again, I type out in capital letters that I'm going to fuck her multiple times in the room. I don't specify how many. And for good measure I say it again verbally. She affirms both times.
And we are off to the rooms, while walking I'm thinking I'm the stupidest fucker in here to do this.
But damn this girl is worth it, I fucked her 3 times. I would probably rate her 7 in looks, but she just has this very hard to describe sensual energy about her that gives you a hint that she really knows how to ride, suck and fuck you to exhaustion.
Long blowjobs full of spit, she varies pace between fast and slow and always looking into the eyes. Fucked her in various positions around the room. Very enthusiastic and loud. On the third nut, she didn't let me pull out and then she basically fucked me to her pleasure.
She offered her asshole twice and this might be blasphemy on a Brazilian forum but I am not fond of anal sex. So I politely declined.
After finishing up, I head back to the outside bar area again. And there's a straight up 9 who looks like she just arrived at Scandallo. I go up to her without thinking. I ask for her number, she takes me to the side and gives it me. She has a British Number, stayed in England for a year. Perfect English. (that reminds me haven't seen Gabi since day 1). I tell her I will call her to the hotel tomorrow. I start walking back through the club area and think to myself I really need to go back and fuck her. So I stop, turnaround and walk back to her but she was already being bought drinks by another guy. I was a little pissed off with myself for not taking more initiative.
Called it a night there.
Comment on her. I have been taking uber black everywhere, I think I've been cancelled on just once. Very good service with no problems. I have noticed a slight lag where I would sometimes have to wait over 10 minutes before one arrives.
Random observation- saw one Brazilian guy take 4 girls to the room. I don't know how that works with condoms. I would hate to keep switching rubber.
Will report on my Sunday hotel experiences since Scandallo is closed. Cheers.
FACTS. From my experience. Brazilians. Whether a guy or girl who has lived / traveled in Europe and the US who speaks English are totally different than Brazilians who doesn't speak English or have never traveled. It's weird and I have no idea why but they act very spoiled and privileged, even worse than the average European / American. It's like they became more elitist and lost that "friendly factor". I placed a permanent embargo on Scandallo girls who speaks English and who are like this.
I strongly concur with seor Everythingblue! I think his is advice is spot on about avoiding the pros who speak English with a high proficiency. Not only do they tend to quote higher prices for their gringo clients but the ones who have traveled to Europe for "work" are oftentimes noticeably more hardened from being in the industry for such a lengthy tenure that they do eventually become a bit jaded and perform more mechanical in bed. This is just my experience. I've got one rule that I never stray from and that's if a garota speaks English or mentions having previously traveled to Europe at some point then I run for the hills. YMMV.
Jergens007
03-13-22, 18:43
Hey Singe,
This girl you met Gabriella, was she a slim brunette? A white Brazilian girl who is enrolled at her local university and she traveled to California before? If so, I met her too. I didn't do anything with her but we had a long conversation at the patio, she was very sweet and educated.
Don't get me wrong 7's and 8's are good and I did sample a fine young girl in the room. She was good, tame in the club itself but very bubbly in the room. All was as expected not a bad experience at all but it did not blow my mind; maybe due to the short session. She spoke almost perfect English so that was a big reason why I chose her to get a lay of the land. I am calling her today whenever she wakes up which will probably be at like 4 pm LOL. I'm going to go around some parts of the city with her. My very own translator eh! I don't think I'm going to fuck her again though. I'll probably also want to meet her again in Scandallo tonight and ask her to introduce me to her friends or if I need help translating with someone. She's a nice friendly girl that way by the name of Gabriella.
Yes spot on description. Most likely her.
Hey Singe,
This girl you met Gabriella, was she a slim brunette? A white Brazilian girl who is enrolled at her local university and she traveled to California before? If so, I met her too. I didn't do anything with her but we had a long conversation at the patio, she was very sweet and educated.
Jergens007
03-13-22, 20:30
SP has a large Japanese population, largest Japanese population outside of Japan. Sizeable Korean population in SP too. So yeah, you'll see about 15-20% Asians in Scandallo. Because of this, SP has some very good Sushi restaurants. On the same level as in USA or Asia.
I highly doubt they are Asian tourists from Asia since they have strict covid entry requirements when returning back to their country. Most of the Asians from USA will just go to Rio and skipped out SP.
Yes, I am definitely aware of SP having the largest Japanese diaspora outside of Japan and have reported on this several times. The Asian men in the conversation with Gabriella specifically mentioned Chinese and Korean, and thought perhaps this could be an interesting trend to watch.
Thanks to all for the clarifying and I appreciate varying views and opinions. Definitely gives me a more robust picture of the Asian influences at Scandallo.
Jergens007
03-13-22, 20:35
Of course, that's everywhere in the world. Women from developing / poor countries who can speak english and traveled outside of their country have an elitist mindset. They act they are better than the locals around them.
I don't know about if they act worse than the average American? LOL Maybe some. But majority don't act as spoiled as an entitled woman in Los Angeles.
FACTS. From my experience. Brazilians. Whether a guy or girl who has lived / traveled in Europe and the US who speaks English are totally different than Brazilians who doesn't speak English or have never traveled. It's weird and I have no idea why but they act very spoiled and privileged, even worse than the average European / American. It's like they became more elitist and lost that "friendly factor". I placed a permanent embargo on Scandallo girls who speaks English and who are like this.
Jergens007
03-13-22, 20:54
What's up guys!
I just got back home to LOS Angeles, spent over 2 weeks in SP. I had an amazing time and plan to come back again soon. This is my 4th trip to Brazil, my 2nd trip to SP, my previous SP trip was in Feb 2020 before covid.
About myself:
Late 30's Asian American who has a taste for cavalas and Panicat Brazilian women. What are cavalas and Panicats? Cavalas are curvy women with big booty and big tits. I have a thing for enhanced BBL and big tits, fake or real.
Panicats are the curvy models / dancers you see on Brazilian TV shows. All Brazilians will know about Panicats and Cavalas. I also love the tan lines. I find it so sexy! Turns me on.
I speak some Spanish but very basic Portuguese. I was with my Brazilian friend in SP, who is American educated, to help me out with the translation. He is very charismatic and outgoing, he knows SP very well and he runs a onlyfans social media company for a couple of brazilian porn stars.
My accommodations:
During the 2 weeks, I got a nice penthouse with a jacuzzi in el centro, the area was shady but the building was amazing, (the photo of Lizys ass in the Jacuzzi, was my Penthouse).
Afterwards I stayed at an apartment in Vila madalena for a few days and then the remainder of my trip at the Renaissance Hotel. Vila Madalena is a great area for parties, bars, and is very bohemian. Renaissance hotel is located near Paulista Ave, a very nice luxury hotel, many Americans, pilots, business executives stay here. At night at the hotel lobby bar, you will see many working girls chilling sitting by themselves. Many of them are good looking.
Escorts: Here are links of 3 escorts I met when I was in SP. All 3 of them provided great service, very passionate.
Nick Rosa aka Morena Luv, she speaks very good English and travels to Dubai often so she is on another level in the Brazilian escort world.
Lizzy is a part time porn star, she has an onlyfans and I happen to be part of her homemade porn clip. Her ass is amazing!
Anna Laura: a very hot Gaucha Cavala. She's from Porto Alegre, if you don't know what a gaucha is.
https://twitter.com/morenalovv
https://twitter.com/gauchaaaaaa
https://twitter.com/lizydonato
Casa Rao:* Remodel since my last visit in 2020, its a cheap, tons of girls, most are pretty average to cute. You might find 2 or 3 stunning ones that are Scandallo quality. Good place to go for cheap drinks and to listen to music. Most girls I talk to were asking about 300-500 reals. I didn't take any girls with me.
Bahamas: The owner of this club is famous and very well known in the media. The place has the decor of a mansion in Miami or New Orleans Lights were bright so we can see the women. Since it was during carnival, It was an off night. I didn't see any girls that fit my taste. However I see this place having potential. Since it was once the hottest club before Scandallo opened, when I return back to SP, I will check it out again.
Scandallo: Probably the best adult venue I have been. Luxury night club similar to Vegas. They have a restaurant that serves sushi and steak. The food is very good. I was surprised how good the sushi was. Scandallo is always consistent with hot women. Wide variety of women to pick out. From slim, skinny, supermodel, fashion model, curvy, cavalas, panicats, big ass, big tits, all ethnicities, blond, redheads, brunettes, black girls, morenas and I saw a few Asians.
I thought the termas of Rio were amazing but in the last couple of years the talent level of termas has gone down the hill. The owner of Monte Carlo Termas told me most of the hottest Brazilian girls are going to SP to work instead of the termas. Since they make more money in SP. Scandallo is where the best talent is at consistently.
I prefer to session at my apartment as opposed to their hotel, so I was collecting numbers from the top 4 girls I like. During the duration of my trip, I ended up meeting with 3 of them. During my 2 weeks, I came to Scandallo 3 times. M.
Carnival: If you come to Brazil and your main goal is monger, avoid Carnival week since most of the girls are partying with friends or with family. * *During the week of Carnival, Scandallo, Casa Rao and the Bahamas was pretty slow. The week before Carnival, they had a big DJ name Medusa performing, the place was packed with people like sardines, so many women. The days after carnival it was pretty slow, either way, there were plenty of women to pick from.
Brazilians sure know how to party. Vila Maladena was the hot spot for partying, 4 days straight, everyone was partying till 5 am. My Brazilian friend took me out with his friends, met up with a girl he knows and her group of friends. I ended up hooking up with one of the girls. Since my Portuguese was non-existent, my Spanish paid dividends since she spoke Spanish.
Hit me up if you have any questions. Cheers!
Jergens007
03-13-22, 21:01
I can't private message you. She is not the type who I would normally go for, since I like women with curves and big tits / ass. She is more petite and skinny. I was very attracted to her personality and how intelligent she was. She didn't come off as the type of girl who will work at Scandallo. How was your session with her?
Yes spot on description. Most likely her.
I just got back home to LOS Angeles, spent over 2 weeks in SP. I had an amazing time and plan to come back again soon. This is my 4th trip to Brazil, my 2nd trip to SP, my previous SP trip was in Feb 2020 before covid. ...
Panicats are the curvy models / dancers you see on Brazilian TV shows. All Brazilians will know about Panicats and Cavalas. I also love the tan lines. I find it so sexy! Turns me on. ...
My accommodations:
During the 2 weeks, I got a nice penthouse with a jacuzzi in el centro, the area was shady but the building was amazing, (the photo of Lizys ass in the Jacuzzi, was my Penthouse). ...
Brazilians sure know how to party. Vila Maladena was the hot spot for partying, 4 days straight, everyone was partying till 5 am. ...Good job, nice read, vice nice report! And that view from the Jacuzzi hot tub looks amazing.
I thought your option to stay at a centro apartment w/Jacuzzi hot tub, was an interesting, but no doubt fun choice. Albeit located in a slightly shady area of centro.
Okay, I'll have to update my Brazilian (and/or Spanish?) lexicon w/r to cavalas and Panicats. Thanks!
BTW, care to share any partying info on the scene in Vila Maladena?
Based on experience is there still sufficient talent around over this time or a complete waste of time?
Escorts: Here are links of 3 escorts I met when I was in SP. All 3 of them provided great service, very passionate.
Nick Rosa aka Morena Luv, she speaks very good English and travels to Dubai often so she is on another level in the Brazilian escort world.
Lizzy is a part time porn star, she has an onlyfans and I happen to be part of her homemade porn clip. Her ass is amazing!
Anna Laura: a very hot Gaucha Cavala. She's from Porto Alegre, if you don't know what a gaucha is.
https://twitter.com/morenalovv
https://twitter.com/gauchaaaaaa
https://twitter.com/lizydonato.Good report with some new insights. It's always good to get some higher-end escort recommendations. First, not everyone can be at the boates late at night. Work considerations, etc. Second, there's always a lot of discussions about great times with so and so, but many guys don't provide digits.
Thanks Jergens007.
Based on experience is there still sufficient talent around over this time or a complete waste of time?Possibly one of the worst times you can go because most of the girls are heading to / are on vacation. Usually the best girls get taken away to another city or country by a guy for the holidays or they are spending time with their families. Your options are not as vast but with sao paulo there's tons of girls to fill the void. If you had a girl in mind like an online girl it's a toss up. I went to SP early January and it was not as packed like when I went in September. Didn't help there was a lockdown but most girls don't come back from vacation until mid Jan. Could still have a good time, I did.
LionsNTigers
03-14-22, 01:42
What's up guys!.Thanks man, great review. How did you meet these three, and what was the rate / service? Pernoite? I dabbled this last trip but wouldn't mind making room for a real upscale experience, I don't mind spending a bit.
LionsNTigers
03-14-22, 01:49
Unfortunately not. Things start closing down around 7-8 pm. Most girls are leaving by then or are in rooms for the last sessions. There is one late night Clnica which I haven't tried. I believe it's 300 r per hour.
Savanas CLnica de Massagem.
+55 11 3051-8512.
https://goo.gl/maps/HHvdfG2sthohtaCX7
As much discussed, you can try Scandallo. Or get an online girl at SPLove or Clubmodel.Thanks man, appreciate that.
Seems like all signs really do point you toward Scandallo, eh? Perhaps I will see some of you on the next trip. Any advice on what Scandallo is like on Monday nights, still okay? Seemed like SP kind of ramped up through the week with each night getting better through Thursday.
Back to my other report, as I was checking out the Renaissance lobby Thursday there was a girl that came in with a guy, she was something else entirely. Skin was white with red hair, she practically looked Irish but with a fat ass that looked awesome. She was the life of the party but came clearly attended. One to look out for I think.
Either one is fine just depends on what you want / need.
If you get a luxury hotel room or airbnb it does help set the girl in a comfortable mood I've noticed. TBH most of these girls idea of luxury are not very high as they live in small apartments with other family members or girls, so most hotel / airbnb rooms will do just fine. If it has a jacuzzi in the room that's a huge plus. Good idea to get a nice room especially if you plan on doing lots of pernoites.
You should avoid renting or staying in a private residence house in SP. Honestly most airbnb listings are condos so you really have to go out your way to find this problem LOL. Some online girls don't go to private residences for safety reasons, so don't want to shoot yourself in the foot.
You also can go to love motels. I'm a big fan and theres tons in SP. Lush and motel asturias are TOP as the brazilians say. They have everything you need like drinks and food brought up to you as well as costumes and toys. Girls get a kick out of those places too.
... Any advice on what Scandallo is like on Monday nights, still okay? ...A girl told me they can take one day off without paying entry fee again. I remember that day is Monday (or they prefer to take Monday off) so I assume Monday is less ideal to visit if you have a choice. But all you need is one girl so you may still find one on a slow day.
SocratesNY
03-14-22, 12:31
A girl told me they can take one day off without paying entry fee again. I remember that day is Monday (or they prefer to take Monday off) so I assume Monday is less ideal to visit if you have a choice. But all you need is one girl so you may still find one on a slow day.I was told by a few girls they can choose either Saturday or Monday, so including Sunday, they have 2 consecutively days off.
This results in Saturdays and Mondays being the slowest days at Scandallo.
All fine points. Seems like google translate can be man's best wingman. A soon as I get out of the airport I need to go to the mall where I here the Tim store will give you a sim card using your passport ID.Didn't need Google translate since I was talking to her in Portuguese. I specifically asked her for her services and she agreed. Once we got to the room, she just changed her mind. I even asked her in the room about her confirming everything down at the bar and she said "yes, everything is included at 1000. " She was trying to upsell once you get inside the room knowing most guys wouldn't have the ability to say no. I had enough fun over the weekend so I was able to tell her to get the fuck out.
Not much to say for Sunday.
Felt good in the morning with the 2 exciting possibilities of the Clubmodel girl and the 9 I met at Scandallo. I first contact the clubmodel girl.
The Clubmodel girl, she never responds sadly. So go to plan be and I message the scandallo girl. Get a response in 5 minutes and scheduled for 8 pm. She surprisingly arrives right on time, lives in Moema. No trouble with the hotel, she gets registered and sent right on up.
At this point I'm just hoping like my last dying wish that she's good in bed, but again tough luck she is just plain average. Good kisser but a slight smell in the mouth (huge turnoff), horribly short blowjob. Couldn't get hard properly because of it. But She has an incredible body and face and looks like a dream when she's on all fours. Real fat ass falling over the sides, long hair, big tits and a model face. 2 loads and done. She was very polite and again great English skills' she was good company so I did extend her time with me for 2 more hours (didn't pay much for this since I didn't want sex) . We just talk and order dinner. Room service. I was in a full charm offensive. She turns out to be very sweet. I liked her in the end.
Since Gabi is a no show, I might keep her as eye candy and go out on the city. She said she liked Vila Madalena where all the bars are located I believe. Maybe I take her there one night.
Will try and keep my reports short from here since I feel like they are dragging on.
SocratesNY
03-14-22, 16:16
Didn't need Google translate since I was talking to her in Portuguese. I specifically asked her for her services and she agreed. Once we got to the room, she just changed her mind. I even asked her in the room about her confirming everything down at the bar and she said "yes, everything is included at 1000. " She was trying to upsell once you get inside the room knowing most guys wouldn't have the ability to say no. I had enough fun over the weekend so I was able to tell her to get the fuck out.Was it R400 or R1,000 for the hour? You listed two different numbers.
It is good to hear you and others say there are now some occasional hot talent at the Renaissance bar.
I have stayed there often and have yet to see any working girls above a 7 optically freelancing at the bar. I usually see 2-3 of them in their 30's and not worth the trouble to inquire.
I also figured the service would be mediocre and full of upsell due to the clientele they target / attract there.
Hello,
I will be on the ground in SP for the first time in a few days. I intend to have girls at my hotel from the escort websites as well as visiting girls that host from their own location. My question is when do they pay you? Before the services rendered or after?
Thanks,
TIG.Are you still in SP?
Was it R400 or R1,000 for the hour? You listed two different numbers.
It is good to hear you and others say there are now some occasional hot talent at the Renaissance bar.
I have stayed there often and have yet to see any working girls above a 7 optically freelancing at the bar. I usually see 2-3 of them in their 30's and not worth the trouble to inquire.
I also figured the service would be mediocre and full of upsell due to the clientele they target / attract there.Downstairs at the bar during the negotiation, it was agreed to R400 for an hour. Once we got upstairs and we had changed and she was massaging me, the price changed and I got pissed and turned off. I guess she figured she could upsell a gringo seeing that my bag was packed and was ready to go. I told her I was leaving the country downstairs and wanted to get one last one in. Maybe she understood that as I was desperate for the sex and she thought she could charge more. Anyway. Whatever her reasons are, I could care less.
EverythingBlue
03-14-22, 21:46
Downstairs at the bar during the negotiation, it was agreed to R400 for an hour. Once we got upstairs and we had changed and she was massaging me, the price changed and I got pissed and turned off. I guess she figured she could upsell a gringo seeing that my bag was packed and was ready to go. I told her I was leaving the country downstairs and wanted to get one last one in. Maybe she understood that as I was desperate for the sex and she thought she could charge more. Anyway. Whatever her reasons are, I could care less.Señor Anaggie, I know the feeling, always good to have a plan for that last bit of venom needing to be released. Once you get in the plane, you are thankful you got it out, like you haven't released plenty the last few days LOL. It's never enough!
SocratesNY
03-14-22, 22:32
Thanks for the reports. Looking forward to your future ones as I will be back in SP next month.
Don't get me wrong 7's and 8's are good and I did sample a fine young girl in the room. She was good, tame in the club itself but very bubbly in the room. All was as expected not a bad experience at all but it did not blow my mind; maybe due to the short session. She spoke almost perfect English so that was a big reason why I chose her to get a lay of the land. I am calling her today whenever she wakes up which will probably be at like 4 pm LOL. I'm going to go around some parts of the city with her. My very own translator eh! I don't think I'm going to fuck her again though. I'll probably also want to meet her again in Scandallo tonight and ask her to introduce me to her friends or if I need help translating with someone. She's a nice friendly girl that way by the name of Gabriella.
Paid 1 k to Gabi, 230 Real for the room.
I met Gabriella too. She "SEEMED" like a real sweet and intelligent girl and does speak very good English. She wants to work in finance and has traveled to US and Europe. Wants to move to Spain to work because it pays more.
However, her overseas exposure has given her a warped sense of pricing. She believes gringos who comes from western countries should / can afford to pay above local market rate due to strong exchange rate. She basically wanted local pricing in Europe or US, but in BRL. It was ludicrous.
She wanted R1,000 for an hour or R3,500-4,000 for an overnight! . because that's what she THINKS she can get working in Spain or the US.
I wanted to tell her "Sweetie. You ain't in New York or Madrid! I also wanted to ask her. If I come from a country with a weak currency like Russia or Argentina, do I get a discount? LOL. For a girl that works in banking, she knows shit about economics and exchange rate implications on local finances.
After I turned her down, she asked for a "donation for her time". Even after I gave her some Real (only because she is friends with a girl I know and like and didn't want her to trash talk me), she still gave me a real dirty look when she passed by (she didn't think I noticed, but I have great peripheral vision) as saw me smoozing with another girl.
EverythingBlue
03-14-22, 23:04
Thanks for the reports. Looking forward to your future ones as I will be back in SP next month.
I met Gabriella too. She "SEEMED" like a real sweet and intelligent girl and does speak very good English. She wants to work in finance and has traveled to US and Europe. Wants to move to Spain to work because it pays more.
However, her overseas exposure has given her a warped sense of pricing. She believes gringos who comes from western countries should / can afford to pay above local market rate due to strong exchange rate. She basically wanted local pricing in Europe or US, but in BRL. It was ludicrous.
She wanted R1,000 for an hour or R3,500-4,000 for an overnight! . because that's what she THINKS she can get working in Spain or the US.
I wanted to tell her "Sweetie. You ain't in New York or Madrid! I also wanted to ask her. If I come from a country with a weak currency like Russia or Argentina, do I get a discount? LOL. For a girl that works in banking, she knows shit about economics and exchange rate implications on local finances.
After I turned her down, she asked for a "donation for her time". Even after I gave her some Real (only because she is friends with a girl I know and like and didn't want her to trash talk me), she still gave me a real dirty look when she passed by (she didn't think I noticed, but I have great peripheral vision) as saw me smoozing with another girl.Man, what are the chances that this is the same Gabriella I sessioned with in Scandallo on a Saturday afternoon when I wanted to the have "The last one" before my trip back? LOL. She was very persistent on 1000 Real for an hour, but so was I on paying less and we finally settled for 800, but wait she wasn't done yet, she gave me decent service but when I wanted to fuck again she said I was too cheap LOL.
Hahahah lmao.
I wanted to tell her "Sweetie. You ain't in New York or Madrid! I also wanted to ask her. If I come from a country with a weak currency like Russia or Argentina, do I get a discount? LOL. For a girl that works in banking, she knows shit about economics and exchange rate implications on local finances.
Random girls asking for money and drinks out of nowhere is probably one of the most annoying thing about Scandallo.
After I turned her down, she asked for a "donation for her time". Even after I gave her some Real (only because she is friends with a girl I know and like and didn't want her to trash talk me), she still gave me a real dirty look when she passed by (she didn't think I noticed, but I have great peripheral vision) as saw me smoozing with another girl.
I don't know any Gabriella but convinced all of the dudes in this forum boned her.
Man, what are the chances that this is the same Gabriella I sessioned with in Scandallo on a Saturday afternoon when I wanted to the have "The last one" before my trip back? LOL. She was very persistent on 1000 Real for an hour, but so was I on paying less and we finally settled for 800, but wait she wasn't done yet, she gave me decent service but when I wanted to fuck again she said I was too cheap LOL.
About myself:
Late 30's Asian American who has a taste for cavalas and Panicat Brazilian women. Thanks for the report and glad to hear my fellow Asian monger who have same taste in women.
Since you just came back, what is COVID-19 requirements to enter?
Is it PCR 72 HR. Before or antigen test 24 HR. Before sufficient enough?
Doesn't look like her from the photo. Very far off. Gabriella is like pale, ghostly white.
Man, what are the chances that this is the same Gabriella I sessioned with in Scandallo on a Saturday afternoon when I wanted to the have "The last one" before my trip back? LOL. She was very persistent on 1000 Real for an hour, but so was I on paying less and we finally settled for 800, but wait she wasn't done yet, she gave me decent service but when I wanted to fuck again she said I was too cheap LOL.
You got the sweet and intelligent part correct but way off on the rest it seems unless she's just fucking around with me LOL. She's never been to Europe and has never talked about spain. She didn't mention anything about finance when I asked her what she wants to do later on. She mentioned wanting to go to Dubai next month to work. I told her a few spots I visit, she was very happy haha. She is sitting on my bed naked in a bathrobe as I type this having no idea I'm writing about her LOL.
She charges 1000 for the hour and 2 k is what I am paying her for overnight which she quoted to me. I accepted without negotiation. She takes a while to break in, she doesn't like rough guys but she offered to fuck her with her overlooking the window. I have a high floor and a very nice suite. She automatically guided both my hands to her neck while I was fucking her from behind and asked me to choke her. Suffice to say I'm having a good time with her. Still no bareback, but I feel I need another day or 2 with her before she will accept that as well. More on my day with her on my next report.
Thanks for the reports. Looking forward to your future ones as I will be back in SP next month.
I met Gabriella too. She "SEEMED" like a real sweet and intelligent girl and does speak very good English. She wants to work in finance and has traveled to US and Europe. Wants to move to Spain to work because it pays more.
However, her overseas exposure has given her a warped sense of pricing. She believes gringos who comes from western countries should / can afford to pay above local market rate due to strong exchange rate. She basically wanted local pricing in Europe or US, but in BRL. It was ludicrous.
She wanted R1,000 for an hour or R3,500-4,000 for an overnight! . because that's what she THINKS she can get working in Spain or the US.
SamaRiding
03-15-22, 05:13
I'm seasoned enough from my AMP adventures in the Pacific. I'm not necessarily looking for the same thing but are there any specific clinicas with an Oriental lineup?
I see SP has a large Japa population and there's no shortage of Acompanhantes. I want a double with 2 Japas / hapas.I asked this question a few months ago. Short answer is there doesn't seem to be. I did some recon during my last visit and couldn't find anything beyond the random Asian girl in a boate or online. There is a small group of Japanese looking mixed girls on Twitter. Tried one but service was not good so skip the rest. I would think there is a secret network of young thin Japanese working girls all dressed in geisha or school girl outfits that caters to the local Japanese market. But that's just my imagination.
Jergens007
03-15-22, 08:57
BTW, care to share any partying info on the scene in Vila Maladena?During Carnival it was mostly 20's-30's. A few 40's a lot of bars, restaurants, live music.
I'm not sure what its like during normal times, but either way, its the place to be for partying.
Check it out!
Jergens007
03-15-22, 09:31
You got the sweet and intelligent part correct but way off on the rest it seems unless she's just fucking around with me LOL. She's never been to Europe and has never talked about spain. She didn't mention anything about finance when I asked her what she wants to do later on. She mentioned wanting to go to Dubai next month to work. I told her a few spots I visit, she was very happy haha. She is sitting on my bed naked in a bathrobe as I type this having no idea I'm writing about her LOL.
She charges 1000 for the hour and 2 k is what I am paying her for overnight which she quoted to me. I accepted without negotiation. She takes a while to break in, she doesn't like rough guys but she offered to fuck her with her overlooking the window. I have a high floor and a very nice suite. She automatically guided both my hands to her neck while I was fucking her from behind and asked me to choke her. Suffice to say I'm having a good time with her. Still no bareback, but I feel I need another day or 2 with her before she will accept that as well. More on my day with her on my next report.Here is my encounter with Gabriella, I went to Scandallo alone. My Brazilian friend didn't come with me. I ran into the girls who me and my Brazilian friend hung out with the previous night. The 2 girls joined me for dinner / drinks at the restaurant. Gabi walked by my table and just gave me smile and long ass stare. Usually women will not make eye contact if your with another girl. But she got some balls. She is cute and attractive, but I'm more into the slutty big titty / big ass cavala types. After dinner, me and the girls went to the dance floor just to hang out and dance. Here comes Gabi, walked by us and gave me a wink while I was still hanging out with my girls. LOL About 30 minutes later, the girls told me they need to go make money and meet clients, quick hug and off they go. Guess who came back? Gabi. She said, Hey how are you? Than I responded with a smile. " que? No falo ingles" than she started to speak Portuguese, than I joked I told her I don't speak Portuguese. I was impressed how good her English was and her intelligence made her more attractive. She use to live in New York and California. She briefly lived in Beverly hills. Yes she told me she wanted to become a private wealth manager at a big bank in SP. I asked her. What the fuck are you doing here?? LOL She is going to school and doing this to make extra side money. She wants to move back to California. We talked for a while, we exchange Instagram. Based on her IG photos, she probably comes from an an upper class family in SP. Otherwise, she wouldn't have got a visa to travel to the USA alone. I guess in Brazilian society its ok to be a sex worker and its not frowned up compare to USA. Many of the girls at Scandallo are in college, have a full time job and just working at Scandallo as a side hustle. Based on the recent posts of Gabi and my experience with her, sounds like she's hunting gringos, tourists and Asians because she can get the most money from them compare to local Brazilian. Let us know if you end up barebacking her.
SocratesNY
03-15-22, 12:14
You got the sweet and intelligent part correct but way off on the rest it seems unless she's just fucking around with me LOL. She's never been to Europe and has never talked about spain. She didn't mention anything about finance when I asked her what she wants to do later on. She mentioned wanting to go to Dubai next month to work. I told her a few spots I visit, she was very happy haha. She is sitting on my bed naked in a bathrobe as I type this having no idea I'm writing about her LOL.
She charges 1000 for the hour and 2 k is what I am paying her for overnight which she quoted to me. I accepted without negotiation. She takes a while to break in, she doesn't like rough guys but she offered to fuck her with her overlooking the window. I have a high floor and a very nice suite. She automatically guided both my hands to her neck while I was fucking her from behind and asked me to choke her. Suffice to say I'm having a good time with her. Still no bareback, but I feel I need another day or 2 with her before she will accept that as well. More on my day with her on my next report.Maybe it's a different girl with same name. They can use any name they want, and many girls use their real names.
I've met 3 different Gabriella in the last year at Scandallo, but your description of her being pale white and fluent English skills made me think it was the same girl.
All the other stuff doesn't matter, as long as you are having a good time and find her pricing reasonable to you.
So went to the ATM. Took out 2500 which was successful. Tried again and it said transaction failed. My bank still debited the 2500 Reais from my account. I don't understand what happened.
Very frustrating. Spoke to the people at the bank, they said to contact my bank LOL. Registered a dispute with my bank, and that's all folks. Can't do shit about it. Next time will only do one transaction a day I guess.
Called the Scandallo girl and very surprisingly she said she couldn't come. Didn't give a reason. I really thought we had hit it off, she really did seem to be into me. I don't think she was just doing the regular shtick of acting in being into me. Maybe she was actually busy so couldn't come. Her loss. Later in the day, she texts me back 4 times asking if she can come so my ego is soothed.
So anyways Gabi had been on my mind past few days and I messaged her, she responded quick and we scheduled. Fucked her 3 times in the room. The hotel made me sign some kind of consent form this time for a visitor.
Then we went to see a movie (batman) to Cinemark cidade Jardim very upscale and high street brands. Got two fairly expensive love seats where we snuggled in and made out all the time. I'm going to have to watch the movie again.
In conversation with Gabi things got very interesting and have got me excited again for the next few days.
She says she has her best friend (she calls her a sister) who stays with her and says and I quote "she is a * and fucks everything." So naturally that piqued my interest as I would like to be fucked too so I ask her if we can call her tomorrow. She agreed without hesitation and was kind of really pushing the idea which kind of gave me pause. But I guess we will see how it goes.
I asked to see her pictures and hot damn this girl is fire, and 20 years old. Way hotter than Gabi.
My hotel unfortunately has told me that they would allow only one guest, but I will go and ask them one more time if they can allow it or accept a fee to take in 2 guests.
I told Gabi this and she said she knows of many places we can go fuck. Some kind of hot bath sauna kinda place with a pool and fuck toys and everything. I ain't complaining.
Keeping it short. Will report tomorrow again.
JohnnyWalker55
03-15-22, 17:34
Deciding on a multi month stay in SP vs rio.
My MO. Is quickies, usually with casa girls, sw (Colombia) or prives in rio.
When I went to rio and stayed in centro, so many prives it's amazing. In and out. But it's less developed in centro esp. Compared to copa where shit's more expensive. airbnbs arnt as nice, etc.
SP has much better food, housing (stayed by republica metro), but the prive scene is non existent. If I want to go to a quick prive I have to take a 20 min metro to other neighboorhoods, or go walk by cracklandia 20 blocks after booking an online girl. A lot more prep time.
My question I guess is.
Has the prive scene in SP gotten better? Or is it mostly termas still and online ads which require more time and setup.
I would much prefer to stay in one of the SP condos as compared to rio centro as theyre much nicer, but the prive quickie scene of rio along with villa mimosa is hard to beat.
Thanks for your time.
Jw.
Carpaccio18
03-15-22, 17:36
I'm coming to SP for the first time in a couple of months. Its a business trip but from reading here, Scandallo is a must so I will make sure to stay over a weekend for that purpose alone.
However, for the weekdays, its going to be all business and little time for hunting. But again reading the thread, its seems that staying at the Renaissance is a good pick as I read quite a few post saying that you can find WGs in the lobby bar there. That would do very nicely for some evening fun. So my question to you experienced gentlemen here is whether one can find quality there?
(Well from doing a bit of reasearch and being and ass man, almost anywhere in SP seem to be heaven).
Deciding on a multi month stay in SP vs rio.
My MO. Is quickies, usually with casa girls, sw (Colombia) or prives in rio.
When I went to rio and stayed in centro, so many prives it's amazing. In and out. But it's less developed in centro esp. Compared to copa where shit's more expensive. airbnbs arnt as nice, etc.
SP has much better food, housing (stayed by republica metro), but the prive scene is non existent. If I want to go to a quick prive I have to take a 20 min metro to other neighboorhoods, or go walk by cracklandia 20 blocks after booking an online girl. A lot more prep time.
My question I guess is.
Has the prive scene in SP gotten better? Or is it mostly termas still and online ads which require more time and setup.
I would much prefer to stay in one of the SP condos as compared to rio centro as theyre much nicer, but the prive quickie scene of rio along with villa mimosa is hard to beat.
Thanks for your time.
Jw.Based on my experience, Rio is much better in that regard, more concentrated, and better quality. There are a few prive buildings in o Centro that are walking distance from Republica metro but the quality is not good. The same type of buildings like the one near cracklandia, I assume you consider that prive. Occasionally you can find a diamond, but very very rare. And you have to fuck in the setting similar to the cubicle like U24 in Rio. I know some like it that way but I like something clean and privacy. LOL. There are other prives but more spread out and I have not been to those. Have you been to Tangara? It's only 120 for 30 minutes.
I like Republica. There are a lot of food options and very lively at night. I plan to stay there my next trip.
Steve 9696
03-15-22, 18:34
I'm coming to SP for the first time in a couple of months. Its a business trip but from reading here, Scandallo is a must so I will make sure to stay over a weekend for that purpose alone.
However, for the weekdays, its going to be all business and little time for hunting. But again reading the thread, its seems that staying at the Renaissance is a good pick as I read quite a few post saying that you can find WGs in the lobby bar there. That would do very nicely for some evening fun. So my question to you experienced gentlemen here is whether one can find quality there?
(Well from doing a bit of reasearch and being and ass man, almost anywhere in SP seem to be heaven).Dude. You can totally do business in the day / evening and Scandallo at night. Believe me. I've done it. Sleep when your dead. Politely excuse urself from dinner around 9 or 10 (very jetlagged!) and go to Scandallo till 2 am. Rinse. Repeat. You won't be sorry. Or you will be if you don't do this.
... Tried again and it said transaction failed. My bank still debited the 2500 Reais from my account. I don't understand what happened....Probably the ATM is out of cash. You can try another ATM and that works usually. The important thing here is don't repeatedly withdraw from the same ATM that gives you error. Your account will run out of money and you end up with no cash to withdraw from a good ATM.
You can take the girls to a nice love motel to have a party. It's pretty nice.
I told Gabi this and she said she knows of many places we can go fuck. Some kind of hot bath sauna kinda place with a pool and fuck toys and everything. I ain't complaining.Gabi's likely talking about the infamous Sao Paulo love motels. As Bearsi mentioned two days ago, Lush and Asturias are two of the best as far as amenities. You should check out their websites to see the various rooms on offer. Some are literally sexual playgrounds.
There are love motels all over town and some are just rooms to get down to business for a couple hours.
Good news today, card statement shows the money was credited back. So thank god for that.
Yes, I have my eye on the LUSH motel.
Probably the ATM is out of cash. You can try another ATM and that works usually. The important thing here is don't repeatedly withdraw from the same ATM that gives you error. Your account will run out of money and you end up with no cash to withdraw from a good ATM.
You can take the girls to a nice love motel to have a party. It's pretty nice.
Deciding on a multi month stay in SP vs rio.
My MO. Is quickies, usually with casa girls, sw (Colombia) or prives in rio.
When I went to rio and stayed in centro, so many prives it's amazing. In and out. But it's less developed in centro esp. Compared to copa where shit's more expensive. airbnbs arnt as nice, etc.
SP has much better food, housing (stayed by republica metro), but the prive scene is non existent. If I want to go to a quick prive I have to take a 20 min metro to other neighboorhoods, or go walk by cracklandia 20 blocks after booking an online girl. A lot more prep time.
My question I guess is.
Has the prive scene in SP gotten better? Or is it mostly termas still and online ads which require more time and setup..Why don't you stay in the middle of the Sao Paulo clinica scene? You can find nice condos in Moema and walk to the various clinicas. Of course, you can venture out to other clinicas in other neighborhoods. (My advice is don't stay in Republica.).
If I'm a bit confused by the vernacular you are using, I suspect others will be. Sao Paulo is not known for termas. And I would say SP clinicas are fairly similar to prives if not exactly. Clinicas are great for afternoon fun (as well as evening).
SocratesNY
03-15-22, 21:05
Dude. You can totally do business in the day / evening and Scandallo at night. Believe me. I've done it. Sleep when your dead. Politely excuse urself from dinner around 9 or 10 (very jetlagged!) and go to Scandallo till 2 am. Rinse. Repeat. You won't be sorry. Or you will be if you don't do this.
I'm coming to SP for the first time in a couple of months. Its a business trip but from reading here, Scandallo is a must so I will make sure to stay over a weekend for that purpose alone.
However, for the weekdays, its going to be all business and little time for hunting. But again reading the thread, its seems that staying at the Renaissance is a good pick as I read quite a few post saying that you can find WGs in the lobby bar there. That would do very nicely for some evening fun. So my question to you experienced gentlemen here is whether one can find quality there?
(Well from doing a bit of reasearch and being and ass man, almost anywhere in SP seem to be heaven).Exactly what Steve said. You can easily go to Scandallo after work function / dinner. Scandallo is opened until 4 am and some of the best talent don't show up until 9 or 10 pm.
Weekends (Friday and Saturday, as they are closed on Sundays) isn't as good as mid-week (Tuesday to Thursday) in terms of talent / lineup.
So Gabi's friend goes by the name of Aisha showed up and holy shit guys. I can't believe what I'm looking at. She's like a 20 year old college bunny. Beautiful always smiling, natural tits, gorgeous symmetrical pussy, skin as smooth as butter and a rockstar in bed. If she was up for sale, ID buy her forever. I think I'll keep this one with me for my remaining trip in SP. I will write more about her soon. Found my naughty angel. Fingers crossed.
She is a civi, she doesn't frequent Scandallo too often and only comes by reference usually.
SamaRiding
03-15-22, 22:53
Good news today, card statement shows the money was credited back. So thank god for that. Some banks such as Bradesco has a daily limit of 2500 r withdrawal at the ATM regardless of your own bank account withdrawal limit. I ran into the issue while in SP. You just have to go to another bank ATM such as HSBC or Santander to withdrawal more money.
I heard there is going to be a truckers strike starting about the 23rd. Has anyone there heard about this and what it might do to us during a visit? I will be arriving the 19th and returning April 4.
The person who told me about it was there during a trucker strike a few years back and he said they rationed gas?
It could be that she planned something with another client so she couldn't come and a lot of the times they won't give a reason for that.
Called the Scandallo girl and very surprisingly she said she couldn't come. Didn't give a reason. I really thought we had hit it off, she really did seem to be into me. I don't think she was just doing the regular shtick of acting in being into me. Maybe she was actually busy so couldn't come. Her loss. Later in the day, she texts me back 4 times asking if she can come so my ego is soothed..
SamaRiding
03-15-22, 23:59
Why don't you stay in the middle of the Sao Paulo clinica scene? You can find nice condos in Moema and walk to the various clinicas. Of course, you can venture out to other clinicas in other neighborhoods. (My advice is don't stay in Republica.).
If I'm a bit confused by the vernacular you are using, I suspect others will be. Sao Paulo is not known for termas. And I would say SP clinicas are fairly similar to prives if not exactly. Clinicas are great for afternoon fun (as well as evening).There are prives in SP which are locales in apt or business buildings. From what I heard, prives are below clinicas in quality but cheaper. In the local forum gpguia, there is a CLínica section and a prive section. From the descriptions of the prives, I would no interest in going. SP are known for its CLínica scene and I also recommend to first timers to SP to stick to them. There is a large grouping of clinicas in Moema and what's where I would be! There is a lot of traffic during the day and it would be a pain to get out of república to try any of the Clinicas in Moema.
I heard there is going to be a truckers strike starting about the 23rd. Has anyone there heard about this and what it might do to us during a visit? I will be arriving the 19th and returning April 4.
The person who told me about it was there during a trucker strike a few years back and he said they rationed gas?Few years ago when they had a truckers strike I was in POA, it just means it will be hard to get transportation for taxi, since people have no petrol to put, and that time it got bad, not sure if it was worse, that even the airplanes might not be able to fly. Luckily that time the planes still could fly, and I could go home. So truckers strike means look forward to lack of public transportation, ohh and empty restaurants. That was cool, me and a girl all alone in the restaurant, with our own server, candlelight dinner. Expect restaurant to close early too. But should be fine in a city like sp.
JohnnyWalker55
03-16-22, 04:28
Why don't you stay in the middle of the Sao Paulo clinica scene? You can find nice condos in Moema and walk to the various clinicas. Of course, you can venture out to other clinicas in other neighborhoods. (My advice is don't stay in Republica.).
If I'm a bit confused by the vernacular you are using, I suspect others will be. Sao Paulo is not known for termas. And I would say SP clinicas are fairly similar to prives if not exactly. Clinicas are great for afternoon fun (as well as evening).This is from my report when I went to sp last year:
""""the prives are amazing. Go to joao monteiro de gama 236 off of saude metro. Did a session with juliana, a japanese Brazil mix. 9/10 face. 69 and finished in mish. DFK. Then with amanda the mamasan. Classic brazilian alina riscado look. They had a special 80 k for 1 HR both times. It's the suburbs so a pain to find tbh. Just ask the taxi drivers where to walk, (I don't carry a phone).
Go to gp guia for the best prive info. The locals post there.
I also went to the 3 prives in santana. More suburbs.
Prive. Conselheiro Saraiva, 376.
Prive 432 - Rua Conselheiro Saraiva, 432.
Priv the Rua Doutor Olavo Egdio, 482."""
My apologies, I get the terminology confused. The prives are great, loaded with talent (performers) but I had to take a metro everytime, to 5-6 stops on theblue line, and walk like 10 min in the hot suburbs looking for the prive lmao., as opposed to rio centro, they're all in 4-5 buildings within a square mile or so.
Where would you recommend if not republica? I'm on the map but have a hard time finding a location close to the metro surrounded by clinicas. Thanks.
JohnnyWalker55
03-16-22, 04:33
Based on my experience, Rio is much better in that regard, more concentrated, and better quality. There are a few prive buildings in o Centro that are walking distance from Republica metro but the quality is not good. The same type of buildings like the one near cracklandia, I assume you consider that prive. Occasionally you can find a diamond, but very very rare. And you have to fuck in the setting similar to the cubicle like U24 in Rio. I know some like it that way but I like something clean and privacy. LOL. There are other prives but more spread out and I have not been to those. Have you been to Tangara? It's only 120 for 30 minutes.
I like Republica. There are a lot of food options and very lively at night. I plan to stay there my next trip.Rio centro is paradise for mongers. Like a dozen prives with 100 girls in a square mile. Easy to find. Sp has a ton as well, but so much damn walking in the suburbs and metro stops.
And yea, I'm a cheap bastard, so even if you get a 70 reais girl from photoacompanhtes by republica you're still fucking in a 8 x8 cubicle with little roaches in the bathroom haha!
It's a tough one man, sp has much better housing / infrastructure / food, but rio has the perks of a loaded prive centro and the beach / higher end copa, if one pleases.
SamaRiding
03-16-22, 05:07
This is from my report when I went to sp last year:
""""the prives are amazing. Go to joao monteiro de gama 236 off of saude metro. Did a session with juliana, a japanese Brazil mix. 9/10 face. 69 and finished in mish. DFK. Then with amanda the mamasan. Classic brazilian alina riscado look. They had a special 80 k for 1 HR both times. It's the suburbs so a pain to find tbh. Just ask the taxi drivers where to walk, (I don't carry a phone).
Go to gp guia for the best prive info. The locals post there.
I also went to the 3 prives in santana. More suburbs.
Prive. Conselheiro Saraiva, 376.
Prive 432 - Rua Conselheiro Saraiva, 432.
Priv the Rua Doutor Olavo Egdio, 482."""
My apologies, I get the terminology confused. The prives are great, loaded with talent (performers) but I had to take a metro everytime, to 5-6 stops on theblue line, and walk like 10 min in the hot suburbs looking for the prive lmao., as opposed to rio centro, they're all in 4-5 buildings within a square mile or so.
Where would you recommend if not republica? I'm on the map but have a hard time finding a location close to the metro surrounded by clinicas. Thanks.Check out this list. And search for Moema clinica on the forum.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2627192&viewfull=1#post2627192.
If you know gpguia, then you should be familiar to the SP scene. Lots of crazy opportunities in this city. Impossible to do it all and everybody have different preferences and styles.
Where would you recommend if not republica? I'm on the map but have a hard time finding a location close to the metro surrounded by clinicas. Thanks.Staying near the Eucaliptos metro stop would put you near several Moema clinicas. It also has the advantage of being across the street from Shopping Ibirapuera. It's a decent shopping mall for walking around and eating. There's a supermarket right there too.
For a variety of reasons beyond mongering, I have stayed in Jardim Paulista. Quite a few guys here like staying in Moema. It has a different vibe than Republica so make sure you are cool with that.
So Gabi's friend goes by the name of Aisha showed up and holy shit guys. I can't believe what I'm looking at. She's like a 20 year old college bunny. Beautiful always smiling, natural tits, gorgeous symmetrical pussy, skin as smooth as butter and a rockstar in bed. If she was up for sale, ID buy her forever. I think I'll keep this one with me for my remaining trip in SP. I will write more about her soon. Found my naughty angel. Fingers crossed.
She is a civi, she doesn't frequent Scandallo too often and only comes by reference usually.Amazing find. If you don't mind, would you share her contact information after you get the PM facility? I have a trip planned for April during which I am trying to find a third and maybe she might fit the bill.
Carpaccio18
03-16-22, 18:09
Dude. You can totally do business in the day / evening and Scandallo at night. Believe me. I've done it. Sleep when your dead. Politely excuse urself from dinner around 9 or 10 (very jetlagged!) and go to Scandallo till 2 am. Rinse. Repeat. You won't be sorry. Or you will be if you don't do this.Hell yeah. I could totally do that. When I look like shit in the morning its still going to be jetlag.
Jergens007
03-16-22, 19:02
I been bombarded with tons of PMS in regards to Lizzy. Here are more photos of her. That's it! Stop messaging me for more photos of her. Go to her twitter and join her onlyfans. LOL https://twitter.com/lizydonato.
Yes, her ass was amazing!
What's up guys!
I just got back home to LOS Angeles, spent over 2 weeks in SP. I had an amazing time and plan to come back again soon. This is my 4th trip to Brazil, my 2nd trip to SP, my previous SP trip was in Feb 2020 before covid.
About myself:
Late 30's Asian American who has a taste for cavalas and Panicat Brazilian women. What are cavalas and Panicats? Cavalas are curvy women with big booty and big tits. I have a thing for enhanced BBL and big tits, fake or real.
Panicats are the curvy models / dancers you see on Brazilian TV shows. All Brazilians will know about Panicats and Cavalas. I also love the tan lines. I find it so sexy! Turns me on.
I been bombarded with tons of PMS in regards to Lizzy. Here are more photos of her. That's it! Stop messaging me for more photos of her. Go to her twitter and join her onlyfans. LOL
Please post more photos. LOL. I'm sorry I couldn't help myself.
Premenstrual syndrome (PMS) has a wide variety of signs and symptoms, including mood swings, tender breasts, food cravings, fatigue, irritability and depression. It's estimated that as many as 3 of every 4 menstruating women have experienced some form of premenstrual syndrome.
She's got a great ass, but from her twitter handle she looks horribly ugly without the makeup, and over 30. Not judging but each to his own.
I been bombarded with tons of PMS in regards to Lizzy. Here are more photos of her. That's it! Stop messaging me for more photos of her. Go to her twitter and join her onlyfans. LOL https://twitter.com/lizydonato.
Yes, her ass was amazing!
Tried her out msmary.com.br.
Just for an hour to see how she is. Service was ok to pretty good. Body was incredible, and the face is rated 8.
Sure, after my trip will get the PM going.
Although incredible, she is very flaky on her timing and on trying to get a response from her. She has a boyfriend on the side.
Amazing find. If you don't mind, would you share her contact information after you get the PM facility? I have a trip planned for April during which I am trying to find a third and maybe she might fit the bill.
Tried her out msmary.com.br.
Just for an hour to see how she is. Service was ok to pretty good. Body was incredible, and the face is rated 8.Way Overpriced. People go to Brasil to save money not pay USD rates. There are at least 100 Brazilian girls in South Florida save you the trip to BR.
So for my last night in Sao Paulo this week I finished dinner too late to head to a real clinica like I wanted, so I stuck around the hotel and hung out in the lobby to finish some calls and emails and check the scene. There were a few working girls making conversation or just sitting trying to make eye contact. I saw a few make their way to rooms and was kind of dialing in on a decision when this girl walks through who was fucking stunning, like I assumed she was there with the other Eurotrash on vacation. Stunning outfit, skinny, beautiful, didn't look the part at all. She sat in a spot at the bar that I couldn't see her so I thought she just walked through and left, wasn't until quite a bit later I saw her parked at the bar waiting like the others.
She had ordered some food and I decided to wait until she was done, getting close to 10:30 when she finally finished. She started to move around the lobby a bit and I was just about to sit down to talk with her when one of my colleagues pulled up in the taxi so I had to make a story why I was down there, and she tucked in with a group of brits. So I sat kind of nearby until that finished and she came and sat near me, so I started the conversation. No English on her side, had to use the translator but that was fine. Made some stupid small talk that quickly transferred to an offer to "make the quarto" which confused the hell out of me, but she set me straight. She started at 2000, which I said I have 700, and she went for 1000, so I said fuck it and agreed (recognize it's a bit over market).2000 R may not be so much now but wait until the Real gains to 2. 5, are you willing to pay 2000 R still?
Anyway, point is stop paying gringo price evening if you can afford it now. Trust me, the girl will never forget what you paid and will ask the same each time, she won't accept less.
Before the pandemic the going rate was 1000 R for overnight with a Scandallo girl and now they want that for 1 hour. The exchange was around 4 in 2019 so that is $250 usd for overnight so lets say it drops to 4 again and you pay 2000 R still that is 500 usd. Pandemic is ending so the rate going down to 4 is in the near future. This now makes it really difficult for other mongers probably. For everyone that is paying 20000 R sake, please stop paying gringo prices. People ask me what is a fair rate and I said no more than 1500 R for overnight!
Member #4775
03-17-22, 05:43
She's got a great ass, but from her twitter handle she looks horribly ugly without the makeup, and over 30. Not judging but each to his own.I don't know about anyone here, but the face is the last thing I look at. I ain't tryna wife the * plus I ain't into kissing these sluts knowing someone nutted in her mouth 15 minutes prior. But to each his own. Anywho if she got a nice body, good energy, then I'm game.
Also I'm going to try to go Sao Paula soon, if I get a chance I'm going to fuck her right in that great ass.
A little drunk.
So Aisha flakes and then doesn't flake, says she's hungover because she went out drinking till 5 in the morning. She told me she'dcome at 3 pm, no reply till then. Doesn't even read my messages. I'm sitting in my hotel room like a fool.
She replies by 5 pm saying she can come by 10 pm, and stay the night. I decline and tell her I'm going to Scandallo and ask her to come the next day. I still want to do something rather than waiting around so I call, yes call gabi because me and her have a very cool connect now. We spend the evening together going to the mall and then fugo de chao (surprise. I don't like it!) . We come back to the hotel room to fuck and on the elevator ride up she says and again I quote "you can slap me you know". Now gents, I know some guys would be really into this but I don't think I could ever do that even it's a pleasurable thing to a girl and she wants it done to her. So I don't do it. I can do light choking and hair pulling but that's about it as far as kinks. I would be interested to know thoughts on this kind of masochist stuff from the other members on the forum.
So after the hot sex in the room, (still no bareback), I tell her I want to see Aixa as Gabi lives with her. Gabi calls her and Aixa immediately picks up the phone and we schedule a rooftop bar date with the three of us. Aixa is a real drinker and goes through 5 drinks. I am happy with my blue label. Gabi barely drinks. Got both of them back to my hotel.
As I write this I have both of them naked on my bed speaking Portuguese and playing with each other with mood music on youtube. I needed a break from the fucking so I thought might as well update and write here. A lot of my objectives for Brazil have been accomplished and I am satisfied except the barebacking part. Both these girls are intelligent, educated and well travelled, so its harder to get them to that point. I might offer ludicrous amounts of cold cash maybe day after to convince them; I don't know I am still debating in my head what to do.
Both these girls are planning to go to Dubai in May, I told them places to go and I was also planning a trip to Dubai around then so hell I might fuck them in Dubai! Imagine that.
Cheers!
All of the gringos who are paying this much is the main cause of world wide inflation. Pretty soon its just going to be foreigners at Scandallo because No brazilians will pay this much for a girl no matter who she is.
Way Overpriced. People go to Brasil to save money not pay USD rates. There are at least 100 Brazilian girls in South Florida save you the trip to BR.
UniversalX
03-17-22, 07:21
I don't know about anyone here, but the face is the last thing I look at. I ain't tryna wife the * plus I ain't into kissing these sluts knowing someone nutted in her mouth 15 minutes prior. But to each his own. Anywho if she got a nice body, good energy, then I'm game.
Also I'm going to try to go Sao Paula soon, if I get a chance I'm going to fuck her right in that great ass.Oh, my goodness. LMAO!!
Apologies, new here. Tried to run a search on the forum for this question (and then a search on Google, but it never takes you to the thread it shows a section of).
I have a 2 week vacation coming up in April. The question is, for the only goal of mongering, which place has the best girls / quality sex:
- Sao Paulo.
- Rio.
- Colombia.
Don't care about the quality of food or weather. Literally just going to bang as many gorgeous women as possible, but the sex still has to be good (learned my lesson from American girls, never again going back to them).
Follow up question: My wallet was stolen recently, and so I do not have my drivers license and will not be getting a replacement soon enough. Is traveling with just my passport and photo copy of passport good enough? Don't want to get stranded overseas.
Thank you for your help!
People go to Brasil to save money not pay USD rates.I don't know. I paid EUR 2700 for my flight to Brazil and a ticket to Spain would cost EUR 350. I don't save any money going to Brazil.
I don't know. I paid EUR 2700 for my flight to Brazil and a ticket to Spain would cost EUR 350. I don't save any money going to Brazil.That's some outrageous airfare man. Way, way too high! Where are you flying from? And in which class? Glad I have a lot of points with the airlines. With that kind of airfare you're darn right you aren't saving any money going to Brazil. Whew!
Jergens007
03-17-22, 17:36
Go to Scandallo in Sao Paulo. End of story.
I been to all 3 places already. The talent level of the Termas in Rio have fallen. All the girls go to Sao Paulo to make the most of the money.
Apologies, new here. Tried to run a search on the forum for this question (and then a search on Google, but it never takes you to the thread it shows a section of).
I have a 2 week vacation coming up in April. The question is, for the only goal of mongering, which place has the best girls / quality sex:
- Sao Paulo.
- Rio.
- Colombia.
Don't care about the quality of food or weather. Literally just going to bang as many gorgeous women as possible, but the sex still has to be good (learned my lesson from American girls, never again going back to them).
WarmBlankets
03-17-22, 18:32
Apologies, new here. Tried to run a search on the forum for this question (and then a search on Google, but it never takes you to the thread it shows a section of).
I have a 2 week vacation coming up in April. The question is, for the only goal of mongering, which place has the best girls / quality sex:
- Sao Paulo.
- Rio.
- Colombia.
Don't care about the quality of food or weather. Literally just going to bang as many gorgeous women as possible, but the sex still has to be good (learned my lesson from American girls, never again going back to them).
Follow up question: My wallet was stolen recently, and so I do not have my drivers license and will not be getting a replacement soon enough. Is traveling with just my passport and photo copy of passport good enough? Don't want to get stranded overseas.
Thank you for your help!I'm not the most experienced user on the site but IMO it all just depends on what scene you're most into. Esp. With such little travel time. Brazil, much like the USA is a multicultural country with many ethnicities. For example, if you read a couple pages back it's been stated previously that Sao Paulo has a huge Asian population. Brazilians are known for their party culture, openness to foreigners, and overall laid back attitude. Add in just how sexually open they are and the end result is a melting pot like Sao Paulo with a huge clubbing scene. Sao Paulo and Mexico City are the biggest cities in the entire Americas, both being fairly close in population. Sao Paulo is known for clubs like Scandallo whereas Rio has more of a therma and clinica scene.
Mexico City is also ridiculously huge but from my understanding, sex isn't as open. Population is huge though so you can easily get on Seeking Arrangements and find yourself a girl. And if you filter Seeking Arrangements down to CDMX you will notice that there are lot of girls. (as you'd expect of a metro area consisting of 20+ million people).
I need to RTFF the Colombia board more but Colombians in general are known for their genuine hospitality and probably being the most sensual people on this planet. Interact with any Colombiana on a web camming site and you will instantly know what I mean. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think in Medellin and Bogota you more or less have to be more wary that you actually know what you're doing and be a lot more careful to not find yourself in trouble. And trouble can happen fast. In the blink of an eye someone can jump off their moped, point a gun to your head, and bounce back on riding into the sunset no fucks given. Bogota is the bigger city and capital of the country (10 million population) with rainfall so think of it as comparable to a city like Paris. Medellin has a considerably smaller population (3 million) but attracts more tourism due to more sunshine so people there are more laid back and not as "go go go" as people in Bogota, Paris, or NYC would be. I think the type of person to live in NYC, Paris, or Bogota is more likely to be the kind to focus on a serious career rather than partying or webcamming. That's why I think Medellin is a better fit for those on a quick vacation whereas Bogota would be a great fit if you take your time, actually try to set a social circle & integrate, and stay for a couple months. Both have their street scenes for cheap (although Medellin more so since it attracts more tourism since it's a little more open) and it's obvious who is and isn't working. But from my understanding, the beauty of Colombia resides in the way you can basically approach as many non-pros as you are able and eventually you should end up with a girlfriend or at least a date. The girls are very genuine so she'll probably want to introduce you to her family and have her mother cook for you. I don't think I'd be comfortable travelling to Colombia without at least speaking basic Spanish first; Colombia can be fairly dangerous if you don't know what the fuck you are doing and Medellin / Bogota are no Sao Paulo, Rio, or Mexico City. You stick out as a foreigner. Esp. When you are green and people could openly discuss plans to hurt you to your face and you wouldn't even fucking know because you don't understand a lick of Spanish. If I were visiting Medellin I'd try to connect with a college girl on Seeking Arrangements and ask her to introduce you to her friends after a while. This is probably bad advice but Colombia has a huge webcam scene so I personally would try to connect with a girl on Chaturbate either through WhatsApp or Instagram a couple weeks prior to your trip and see if she wants to hang out for 2-3 days or fly her out to Medellin.
I know I'm repeating myself here but I want to reiterate that I think Bogota is a great move if you don't mind the weather and are actually able to bunker down for 2-3 months and work on your Spanish, establish a bit of a social circle, and actually integrate to some extent.
.... The question is, for the only goal of mongering, which place has the best girls / quality sex:
- Sao Paulo.
- Rio.
- Colombia.
Don't care about the quality of food or weather. Literally just going to bang as many gorgeous women as possible, but the sex still has to be good (learned my lesson from American girls, never again going back to them).
Follow up question: My wallet was stolen recently, and so I do not have my drivers license and will not be getting a replacement soon enough. Is traveling with just my passport and photo copy of passport good enough? Don't want to get stranded overseas.
Thank you for your help!If you are flexible with your budget, the least amount of work will be Rio termas (4x4, Solarium...), next will be Sao Paulo boates because you have to negotiate prices. Many here think Scandallo has the largest selection of the best girls but YMMV. You can just search the threads with the names mentioned above to know how things work and show up in one of these two cites. Colombia (Medellin and Bogota) has larger quantity, cheaper but it takes work to find best girls, assuming you are talking about the best girls similar to what you find in a boate.
The quality of sex will be better in Brazil for inexperienced mongers. GFE is default in most places while it is not in Colombia
Passport or passport card have worked for me. I have never used my driver license.
Axel Heyst
03-17-22, 19:37
Apologies, new here. Tried to run a search on the forum for this question (and then a search on Google, but it never takes you to the thread it shows a section of).
I have a 2 week vacation coming up in April. The question is, for the only goal of mongering, which place has the best girls / quality sex:
- Sao Paulo.
- Rio.
- Colombia.If I were you I would book a multi city flight from your home city to SP and from RJ back to your home city. Then I would book a GOL one way Brazilian domestic flight from CGH to SDU. Since this is a 1st time trip I would schedule 1 week in SP and 1 week in RJ to find out which city I like more. Both towns are good, but they are very different.
Next I would RTFF going back at least 1 year. This will give you a list of the most liked Clinicas & Boates in SP and Prive's & Termas in RJ as well as a relative prices and what you can expect more or less.
A drivers license is not needed unless you want to rent a car. A passport is mandatory as is proof of vax and a negative covid test taken result 3 days before your plane leaves. You will not get into the country without them. A couple photo copies of your passport might come in handy. A reliable credit card and a good debit card like the Schwab Debit Card is very helpful tool. I don't leave home without these items.
That's some outrageous airfare man. Way, way too high! Where are you flying from? And in which class? Glad I have a lot of points with the airlines. With that kind of airfare you're darn right you aren't saving any money going to Brazil. Whew!I always pay between EUR 2000-2700 in business class from Europe. And that's cheap. I have flown with Lufthansa, Air France, KLM and Iberia. I used to travel in economy and pay EUR 800, but I'm done traveling 16-20 hours packed like a sardine (I'm 6'4") in a middle seat in row 46. I work hard and go for vacation to Brazil. I go there to relax and do more than just mongering. I'm happy to pay for the comfort and arrive well rested to my destination. In March 2020 when the pandemic started and we didn't know much about the virus, just that people were dying like flies, I was specially happy that there wasn't anybody sitting close to me.
P.S. I also always buy a GOL max ticket, when flying domestic in Brazil. Fully changeable, first to board and first to leave the plane and 10 cms more leg space.
Air France A350 1-2-1 seating from my last trip.
I always pay between EUR 2000-2700 in business class from Europe. And that's cheap. I have flown with Lufthansa, Air France, KLM and Iberia. I used to travel in economy and pay EUR 800, but I'm done traveling 16-20 hours packed like a sardine (I'm 6'4") in a middle seat in row 46. I work hard and go for vacation to Brazil. I go there to relax and do more than just mongering. I'm happy to pay for the comfort and arrive well rested to my destination. In March 2020 when the pandemic started and we didn't know much about the virus, just that people were dying like flies, I was specially happy that there wasn't anybody sitting close to me.
P.S. I also always buy a GOL max ticket, when flying domestic in Brazil. Fully changeable, first to board and first to leave the plane and 10 cms more leg space.
Air France A350 1-2-1 seating from my last trip.I'm done flying Economy Class too. Got tired of showing up with my neck hurting! I fly either First Class or Premium Class these days. As I said, lucky for me I have one hell of a lot of frequent flyer miles. Combine that with flying from the States versus Europe, and I'm able to score good deals on flights price-wise when I travel. There was a time when I thought I would be stuck flying Economy forever. But I've finally broken through. And after the first time I flew First Class? I knew that I could never ever go back to being crushed in Coach again! Paying extra for First Class or Premium Class is most definitely worth it to me.
...Colombia (Medellin and Bogota) has larger quantity, cheaper but it takes work to find best girls, assuming you are talking about the best girls similar to what you find in a boate.
The quality of sex will be better in Brazil for inexperienced mongers. GFE is default in most places while it is not in Colombia
Passport or passport card have worked for me. I have never used my driver license.For Colombia, I prefer Cartagena over Bogota. You have the beach, nice tropical weather, great food, and a ton of beautiful women.
I flew home from Brazil a few nights ago but before I left Sao Paulo, I was fortunate to spend the last 12 hours in my hotel room with a sexy, beautiful, kind, and affectionate Brazilian lady that I met on my first night. It was the perfect way to end my trip as she walked me out of the hotel, hugged me, and kissed me goodbye as I got into my Uber to leave for the airport. So hard to say goodbye to this lady!
My trip to Brazil was prompted by seeing Scandallo mentioned on another forum on ISG a couple months ago. Rio was on my bucket list of places to visit as a tourist, but Brazil was never a place I thought to visit as a hobbyist. That is until I started reading this forum and learning about Scandallo and what SP offered. For weeks I did my best to research SP and Rio to plan out a good trip. I even sought out the advice on this forum and many of you contributed (much thanks).
Despite doing a fair amount of research, I made a lot of mistakes and found myself adapting my plans during my stay in Brazil. For the purposes of this post, I am going to do my best to share those mistakes as well as things I learned during my trip that might be helpful for first-timers or those considering a trip to SP and Rio.
Before I get into my mistakes, I want to share that I used VeriFLY to upload all of my COVID vaccination and test results. It's free and super easy to use. I had to show the pass on my phone upon my departure and my arrival. I also ordered my Abbott COVID test kits on eMed.com and it was relatively easy to take the COVID test in my hotel room the day prior to my departure. It takes 15 minutes to get the results and then upload the results to VeriFLY.
As for local transportation, I used Uber throughout my trip and while they were relatively quick to pick me up whenever I needed a ride, when I ordered an Uber Black I often got a Toyota Corolla or Nissan Sentra. Uber's requirements for what constitutes Black or Comfort is not the same as in the US. There are a ton of Uber drivers in SP and Rio but most drive compact cars and many did not offer air conditioning. I did find one Uber driver with a nice mid-size car and I used him for an entire afternoon for are are $100. He spoke great English which was refreshing.
One of my first considerations for my trip was my itinerary. I anticipated flying into GRU on a Friday morning, giving myself about 10 days in Brazil, and flying back late on a Sunday evening. I debated how much time I should spend in SP and how much in Rio. I ultimately decided to fly from SP to Rio on Tuesday morning and return to SP on Saturday afternoon. A few weeks before my trip I went ahead a booked flights on Azul Airlines out of CGH and into SDU. This proved to be the biggest mistake of my trip. With Azul, you really do not need to book weeks in advance and they have a terrible cancellation and change policy. I could have easily booked a one-way flight to Rio the day before and paid about the same fare. I should have flown to Rio on Sunday and maybe stayed 1 or 2 days since Sunday is a really quiet day in SP with Scandallo and most of the clinicas being closed. As for Rio, I wanted to see some of the tourist sites, walk on the beach, and see the most popular termas. I could have easily done this in two days. Hindsight being 20/20, I should have booked a one-way flight to Rio for Sunday morning and then booked a one-way return to SP on Tuesday morning. I will post my Rio trip on that Forum, but suffice it to say, once one experiences Scandallo and the clinicas in SP, there is just no comparison to what Rio offers. I know those that love the Rio scene will protest this, but this is simply one person's opinion. For me, my wants and my likes, SP is where I wish that I spent my time.
As for some other mistakes and logistical challenges, I decided to purchase international roaming from my US phone carrier rather than buy a SIM card once I arrived in Brazil. This proved to be a mistake, as I had nothing but problems with phone service in Brazil and also burned through a lot of data very quickly. I am not a tech wiz but I quickly learned that running the Uber app during my trips was burning my int'l roaming data. Also, I found there were just really bad times when I was some place without wifi and could not get a good cell signal to get an Uber or send / receive texts.
Additionally, I found it very difficult to locate ATM machines and when I did find one could not get access to cash from any of my three banks that I use despite calling each one prior to my trip to advise them of my international travel. My first two days in SP, I spent a lot of time trying to get cash and even with the big banks in the area, my ATM cards were being rejected. I have never experienced this in any other international city and it really worried me initially because I am a guy that likes having cash. Go to Bangkok or Zurich and there are banks and ATM machines on every corner that reliably work. This was not the case in Brazil. I recall being in the Uber on my first night in SP and no ATMs would work and my cellphone wasn't working either. As it turns out, the only time I really needed cash was for a lady I met in my hotel lobby one night in Rio.
Lastly, when it comes to hotels, I stayed at the Hyatt in SP for my first few nights and the Sheraton at the end of my trip. The Hyatt was nice, had a very nice club lounge, was a short walk to a nearby mall. I don't know if this is considered girlfriendly, but I was called down to the front desk after I entered the hotel and got to my room with my lady from Scandallo one evening. They wanted me to come downstairs with my lady and register her. They also wanted me to pay a guest fee. I had a grand suite and thought it was ridiculous to pay a guest fee since my reservation was for two people. I was not going to drag my lady downstairs to register and told them so. I did not book a suite at the Sheraton, but my room was really large and I had four ladies in my room over 36 hours and not one of them was stopped and needed to register. They also had a number of restaurant options in the mall attached to the hotel. The only downsides were that I could not find a news channel in English and none of the plugs in the room were USB or compatible for US plugs. I only had one plug adapter and they had none to offer at the front desk. I think I would stay at the Renaissance or splurge and stay at Fasano if I ever go back to SP.
The main purpose of my trip to SP was to visit the famous Scandallo. This boate absolutely lived up to its reputation and even exceeded my expectations. It is much larger than I anticipated and is a very well-run business.
I never found some of this information reported in this forum so I thought I would share some more details on Scandallo so newbies know what to expect. As you pull up to the large building and before you enter the building you are scanned by security guard for weapons. After you enter the building, you walk up to the registration desk area and provide your identification. The lady enters your information in their computer, and she then hands you card with a number on it. This card serves as your personal charge card for food and beverages. During my visit, consumption was $200 and the cover was $200. At this point you pay nothing and do not even have to pay your cover or put a credit card on file. You have to show your card to security to enter the elevator and go up to the main floor.
Once you get off the elevator there is a small bar area and a really large sofa where some of the ladies lounge and watch customers come off the elevators. If you walk past the bar there are sliding glass doors that go to the big club area. Continue through the club and you enter a sitting area with big sofas. Turn left and you enter a gigantic outdoor area with a very long bar, lots of tables and comfortable areas to sit and relax. The entrance to the huge restaurant is behind the small bar area after you get off the elevator. I noticed that my phone only picked up wifi in the small bar area and in the restaurant. I could not pick up wifi in the club or outside area.
When you select a lady to take upstairs to a room, you go up one level where there are cashiers that take your payment for the lady. When you are done in the room, this is also where you return to pay the room fee. For some reason, you do not pay for the lady and room fee at the same time. This is also where you pay to take the lady out of the club for the evening. Oddly, they do not take AMEX for the ladies or the room charges. Once your visit is complete, you return to the registration desk on the ground level and turn your charge card back in. This is when you pay for your cover and consumption. They do take AMEX here. The lady will give you a ticket that you will present to security that permits you to leave the club and show you have paid.
I found the service at Scandallo to be equal to what one would find at a bar in a 5-star hotel. I would describe the establishment as classy and beautiful inside. The staff is friendly and courteous. There are a lot of places around the world that one could compare Scandallo to, but I really don't think there is any place I have ever been quite like it. They serve the coldest Heineken I have ever had and I found their food to be delicious and well presented. Again, an extremely well-run business.
Now for the ladies. I found most of the ladies to be very attractive and friendly. Most do not speak English, but I found many that did. These ladies are all well-groomed. Hair, makeup and nails all done perfectly as if they were going out to a night club looking their best to meet the man of their dreams. There are women of all shapes and sizes. I saw many thin ladies and some very skinny. I also saw a lot of curvy ladies. Some had large tattoos but many did not or they were covered by their clothing. On the downside, women know how to cover their flaws and you never really know what a lady looks like naked until that dress comes off.
This is my personal Scandallo experience if you are interested.
I went to Scandallo on Friday, Saturday, Monday and again on the next Saturday. I typically arrived between 9-10 pm. I was told by many girls at the club that the best nights are Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. I was told that 90% of their customers are local men and most are married. It is easier for these married men to come in mid-week than it is to get away from the wives on a Friday or Saturday night. For this reason, more girls work mid-week because this is when their regulars come in. I noticed that the management does not allow the ladies to have their phones on them except for when they go to a room with a client. This is really smart! Imagine what this boate would be like if you walked in and all of the ladies had their heads in their phones?
Since I am a gringo, I really stood out and the girls knew I was not a local especially since I have blue eyes and don't speak Portuguese. I think being an American gringo worked in my favor with some ladies and against me with other ladies because I am so different than their regular customers. I got the impression that many ladies wish they could speak English and I also noticed that others were almost afraid of trying to communicate with me. Many I spoke with talked about their desire to travel to Europe and the United States (most think of Miami, LA and NYC when they think of the USA). There were some that I met that have traveled internationally to work.
I went with four garotas during my four nights that I visited. On my first night I met garota #1 in the restaurant and her face was just gorgeous. She was sitting with a friend in the restaurant and was so beautiful that I stopped at her table to speak with her. I did not waste time since I was tired from traveling, so after a little small talk quickly asked her to go to a room. Despite there being some communication challenges, we had remarkable chemistry. I met garota #2 in the outdoor lounge area later in the evening. She was very thin. Almost skinny like a European model with a beautiful tan body. The intimacy with garota #2 was off the charts even though I was tired and didn't have a lot of give after being with garota #1.
On Saturday evening, I sat with garota #1 for about an hour chatting and asked her to come back to my hotel for the evening. She seemed to want to socialize and speak to her other clients and didn't really commit. I walked the club and met garota #3 at the bar in the outdoor area. She was blonde and appeared to have a remarkable body. Somewhat thin but with big boobs. At first she was very uncomfortable about speaking with me, but once I bought her a drink and showed her we could communicate through Google Translate, she relaxed. We were discussing going up to a room when I saw garota #2 enter the outdoor area. She was wearing very classy cotton blue pants and a white top. She looked gorgeous! I made up an excuse and ditched garota #3 and immediately took garota #2 upstairs. What started off as hot and passionate soon fizzled when she began to complain that the sex was hurting her. Now realistically speaking, given how thin she was, it was reasonable to conclude that I could have been causing discomfort, but something told me that she went home with someone on Friday night and was sore. Regardless, she finished me BBBJCIM but I was still disappointed and she knew that she disappointed me.
Monday evening was unique given how few customers there were and yet there were a ton of girls. I would say there were 10-15 girls for every customer. I did not see garota #1 or #2 but I did see #3 and she was sitting with a customer. She looked amazing. And yes, I often find a lady often looks more desirable to me when she is with another man. I tried unsuccessfully to get her attention, but she completely ignored me. I then noticed that she left the table and went to the restroom. I casually approached her as she was walking back to her table and she cussed me out in Portuguese. I have no idea what she said, but I could tell she remembered me ditching her on Saturday evening. I quickly moved on and found garota #4. Another beautiful lady that was thin and dressed very sexy. We quickly went up to a room and she performed well enough that I invited her to my hotel for the evening. We were out the door and in an Uber in 15 minutes. Garota #4 became incredibly affectionate in the Uber and back at the hotel. She provided complete GFE that evening and we discussed her coming to Rio but I thought it was foolish to bring sand to the beach. She messaged me the entire time I was in Rio and we discussed getting together when I returned on Saturday. Sadly, I made other plans and did not see her again. I should have brought her to Rio!
While I was in Rio, garota #1 and I messaged each other every day and discussed seeing each other on Saturday and Sunday. We made plans for dinner on Saturday evening but she wasn't replying to my messages on Saturday afternoon. After Twitter girl #2 left my hotel, I showered and headed to Scandallo. I immediately saw garota #1 in the restaurant visiting with one of her friends. She made some excuse about going to lunch with a client and then going to the club after her lunch. I told her that I wanted her to come back to my hotel that night and she indicated that she had many clients in the club that wanted to talk to her and she went off kind of like she did on Saturday night. This is when I ran into garota #3 and tried to approach her. She was much more receptive to speaking with me, but I could tell she was still pissed about the previous Saturday night. Even though I really wanted to take garota #1 back to my hotel and spend all day with her on Sunday, garota #3 gave me a number for pernoite that I wasn't going to pass up. Just as luck would have it, as I was closing out my bill for the evening and garota #3 was standing by my side at the reception desk, I noticed garota #1 sitting on a sofa right behind me and I could tell that she was pissed.
Unlike garota #4 who was super affectionate once I paid her pernoite, garota #3 was a cold btch the entire way to the hotel. Back in the room she got right down to business. As she came out of the bathroom naked, I quickly noticed that she had a very badly botched boob job and lots of scars. I also thought it was odd that she wanted to have sex with her panties still on and just move them aside. Given that I am a little like Jerry Seinfeld and can get easily distracted by a woman's flaws (like nasty feet), the site of this garota's botched boobs distracted me enough that it kept me from getting hard for her. Granted, I had sex twice several hours before. Since she was such a btch in the first place, I politely asked her to leave even though we had originally agreed that she would stay til 8:00 am. I know this might sound crazy to some, but I would just assume throw away that money than spend an entire night with a btch that can't turn me on. I really should have done an hour with her at Scandallo before inviting her to my hotel.
After garota #3 left my room, I checked my phone and noticed that garota #1 had been blowing up my phone with messages. She was pissed that I left the club with garota #3 and it turns out that they didn't like each other. She let me have it for leaving with another garota and claimed that she had planned on leaving with me. At 6 am on Sunday morning I got a message from garota #1 that she was in my lobby and to come down to get her. She was happy to see that garota #3 was not in my room and to learn that I asked her to leave because I thought she was a btch She still gave me a lot of shit for ever taking the other garota, but then informed me that she did not come to my room to argue and wanted to be with me until I left later that evening. We spent the next 12 hours in bed together. This lady ranks at the top of my list as one of the most affectionate women I have ever met. It was an amazing way to end my trip to Brazil and left me wanting to see her again for more.
When it comes to entertainment, I was in SP primarily to visit Scandallo but I did a lot of research prior to my trip in the event that I needed other options. I researched most of the clinicas in the area that were frequently mentioned in posts on this forum. I was getting the status updates from the clinicas on WhatsApp in the weeks leading up to my trip and there were about 6 ladies that I really wanted to see during the days. The week before my departure to Brazil all but one of the clinica girls I wanted to see disappeared off the daily status and when I messaged the clinicas was advised that they quit working there.
Given that most of the ladies at the clinicas that I wanted to meet had quit right before my arrival, I decided to take an Uber on Saturday afternoon and hit some of the ones in the Moema area with my first destination being Prime. On my way from the Hyatt to Prime a storm came down on SP like you would not believe. There was torrential rain and even hail pounding down on my Uber on the drive over to Prime. It was almost as if the man above was trying to send me a message to stop. I got drenched in the seconds exiting my Uber and entering Prime. Over the next two hours I visited Prime, Abbora, Miruna, Spa MOAH and Lotus Lounge and saw the presentations at each. I was wet, cold, tired, hungry and did not see one lady that I was interested in. I was growing increasingly discouraged because there were so many ladies at these clinicas with large tattoos or they were not my preferred body type. There were no ladies comparable to what I saw at Scandallo the night before. The most promising clinica was Lotus Lounge but at the time I arrived there were only two ladies available. I decided to make a reservation for one of the more popular ladies at Lotus Lounge to come back on Monday and I was scheduled to be her first appointment of the day at 11:30 am.
I messaged Lotus Lounge on Monday morning about 30 minutes before my appointment to confirm. I was given confirmation and ordered my Uber. I arrived at my scheduled appointment time and was told upon entering that my lady had not arrived yet and they were unable to reach her by phone. I sat and waited for about 15 minutes and was told that they still had not made contact with her. There were no other ladies available that I was interested in so I made my way over to Taj Mahal. I had one session with an attractive lady and then did another session with two other ladies. I spent most of my Monday afternoon at Taj Mahal Spa and left there absolutely exhausted. I felt like I had just run in the Boston Marathon I was so tired and drained. During my time at the Taj Mahal I was messaged by the Lotus Lounge to tell me the lady I was supposed to meet earlier had arrived and asked if I wanted to come over. I almost accepted but the ladies at the Taj Mahal took everything out of me and I needed something left for Scandallo that night.
I researched and identified about 7-8 ladies that I found on Twitter and other web sites that looked great and two of which I was really determined to meet. I had made contact with many of them prior to my flight to SP to get their hourly rates, etc. Two weeks before my trip one of the Twitter ladies messaged me that she was taking a long vacation and would not be seeing clients for two months. Another Twitter lady messaged me that she was going to remain in Europe working and would not be returning during my time in SP. Given that Scandallo and most of the clinicas are closed on Sunday, I tried to schedule appointments with some of the Twitter girls on Sunday for later that night but completely struck out. Most wanted to schedule on Monday. Since I already made plans for Monday to go to Lotus Lounge at 11:30, I decided to schedule 2 Twitter girls for the afternoon and early evening. Unfortunately, I had to cancel on both girls because of my decision to indulge in 4-5 hours of lustful fun at the Taj Mahal.
Upon my return from Rio, I scheduled two appointments with two separate Twitter ladies on Saturday afternoon. The first arrived on time and her pictures were somewhat accurate but were definitely filtered because she looked a little older in person. She had a deep raspy voice, smelled like a French hooker and was definitely a smoker. My main turnoff was that she had these terribly dried callused feet. Given my phobia of nasty feet and that she was already in my hotel room, I got right down to business, paid her and thanked her. Twitter girl #2 arrived about three hours later. Her online photos looked so amazing that I considered keeping her all night. I even cancelled my plans with one of the Taj Mahal girls that offered to see me on Saturday evening. When I met Twitter girl #2 in the lobby, she was probably 4'10" and as bow legged as Bucky Dent (anyone remember the Yankee shortstop?) She was an attractive lady but was not the thin spinner that I was expecting. In this case, her online photos did represent her body frame. She had very hairy, short, bowed legs. She was not what I was expecting but once again, she was already in my room, so we got to business, and she was politely paid and left my hotel. Both ladies were probably each in my room for 20 minutes. So disappointed!
I know ladies are very creative in using filters and often photoshop their images, but girl #2 was a huge disappointment. Fortunately, each girl was only about R500 are which is less than $100 USD so it was not like I spent a lot of money. I think that I would still pursue some of the girls I found on Twitter had I stayed longer in SP, but I think I would ask for unedited photos and not commit to more than one hour for the first visit.
Like many of you, I have traveled all over the world and have had some remarkable experiences. When it comes to this trip, I absolutely fell in love with the beauty and passion of Brazilian women. I think Scandallo is an amazing place, but I actually prefer going to a place like Globe in Zurich more because I'm surrounded by sexy women parading around the club naked. Admittely, I just love being around lots of naked women! I went with 4 garotas at Scandallo because they looked beautiful in what they were wearing but 3 of the four were very thin and had no boobs. What's wrong with being thin and having big boobs? The one garota I was with that was thin with big boobs had a botched boob job which I didn't uncover until she was paid and in my hotel room. I can only imagine how amazing Scandallo would be if the ladies were all wearing sexy lingerie or something that showed more of their bodies. Don't get me wrong, I would absolutely recommend to anyone that they go and experience Scandallo, but it is hard to say if I will be returning any time in the near future given the long flight. I will acknowledge that had I not gone to Rio during my trip, I likely would have been able to spend more time with the Scandallo ladies and would probably feel more drawn to go back. Garota #1 sure did tug on my heart over those last 12 hours.
Moscow had been on my bucket list prior to COVID but I certainly won't be going there due to the war in Ukraine, so a trip to the Philippines is probably next for me as well as return trips to Bangkok and Zurich. Also, with Canada dropping their pre-departure COVID testing as of April 1st, I see myself visiting Toronto for long weekend trips. I personally think Toronto is one of the best cities in the world for hobbyists to visit especially for Americans.
Met a Scandallo girl outside today, saw her on Wednesday and said I definately need to speak with her, but someone went to speak to her before me and after that she dissapeared for the day. Decide to go the next day and lucky I saw her and spoke with her, got her number and planned to meet, so when I met her today, waited for her at the restaurant Banzeiro, which is an Amazonian cuisine that I wished I knew of. It was delicious, and unique.
Anyway, what happened next is she got down of the car, and when I looked at her, she is without any makeup, in jeans, and a top. I was like wth is this LOL, the no makeup part is the one that I was shocked with, she looked like she has been studying for a day and have not had time to clean herself up, hahaha.
Back at the hotel, I realised she is actually a pretty girl, better with makeup. And we had a great time together. It sucks real bad that I'm leaving in a couple of days, and we can't meet again for a few months, wished I saw her on my first day.
On Tuesday night, saw this cute girl Catherine / Katherine, she was so business like, asked her to sit down, and after awhile she asked if I'm interested in bringing someone out today, or upstairs today, I said yes, and I'm finding and want to. So I bought her a gin and tonic, and continue speaking to get to know her, once the gin and tonic came, she wanted to leave, and I asked her why is she leaving, and she said that I'm not interested in bringing anyone me back today, LOL. Maan, if I'm not interested, I would not have bought you a drink, a red flag that I gladly avoided after, but she does look so hot, next night, I saw that she will not be my type because she is too flat on the ass, LOL.
Few nights ago on Monday, went to Cafe foto, the food menu was lacking and not too much to eat, and girls were not that good looking either. When I went to Scandallo the next day, you can really see the difference by 100%, Scandallo girls do look and dress better.
Restaurant Banzeiro- is an Amazonian restaurant that everyone needs to try once if in Sao Paulo or never been to the Amazon.
If you are flexible with your budget, the least amount of work will be Rio termas (4x4, Solarium...), next will be Sao Paulo boates because you have to negotiate prices. Many here think Scandallo has the largest selection of the best girls but YMMV. You can just search the threads with the names mentioned above to know how things work and show up in one of these two cites. Colombia (Medellin and Bogota) has larger quantity, cheaper but it takes work to find best girls, assuming you are talking about the best girls similar to what you find in a boate.
The quality of sex will be better in Brazil for inexperienced mongers. GFE is default in most places while it is not in Colombia
Passport or passport card have worked for me. I have never used my driver license.Thank you to everyone who responded! I greatly appreciate it. Leaning much more to visiting both Sao Paulo and Rio, and pushing my trip to Colombia to be later when my Spanish is better.
If I may ask a follow up question, what is the best hotel to stay at in Sao Paulo and Rio? As far as location and ability to bring girls over (seen some stories of girls wanting to meet outside the club).
This is my personal Scandallo experience if you are interested.
more.When speaking with few girls, they let me know every race has a type in there, Asians typically only like very skinny girls, with no ass, or in their words seca, magrinha, not sure about the boobs part, and also they ignore girls with dark skin.
That is why you see some girls are not too daring to speak with you.
This makes it not good for me because I need to fend of skinny, seca magrinha girls every time I'm there LOL. I like girls with a curvy ass, not dry LOL, and with at least be cups, of course she has to look pretty too.
The 4 times I was there, it got jaded because it was the same girls day to day.
Good reports ATexGuy. I am looking forward to my next trip to SP in April.
The Critic
03-19-22, 07:32
My trip to Brazil was prompted by seeing Scandallo mentioned on another forum on ISG a couple months ago. Rio was on my bucket list of places to visit as a tourist, but Brazil was never a place I thought to visit as a hobbyist.Great series of reports detailing your experiences. Good read.
What's wrong with being thin and having big boobs? The one garota I was with that was thin with big boobs had a botched boob job which I didn't uncover until she was paid and in my hotel room.Thank you for your detailed reports. Very useful and good points to consider. My worst experience last trip was with a Scandallo girl and it was all my own fault. I got hypnotized by her huge tits and ignored the bad breath and the chicken legs and all the signs that it wouldn't be a great session.
SamaRiding
03-19-22, 11:39
Taj Mahal Spa.
https://goo.gl/maps/f96UENpmmhV1xn5u7
I just finished reading ATexGuy's epic adventure and seemed to more than enjoy this Clínica which I haven't been to. I looked it up, it's in Moema! It's a higher end Clínica with a tablet presentation and massage first. Look like it's 350 r for the hour. Got to add to list of Clínicas to try.
As for Rio, I wanted to see some of the tourist sites, walk on the beach, and see the most popular termas. I could have easily done this in two days. Hindsight being 20/20, I should have booked a one-way flight to Rio for Sunday morning and then booked a one-way return to SP on Tuesday morning. I will post my Rio trip on that Forum, but suffice it to say, once one experiences Scandallo and the clinicas in SP, there is just no comparison to what Rio offers. I know those that love the Rio scene will protest this, but this is simply one person's opinion. For me, my wants and my likes, SP is where I wish that I spent my time.Agreed. After seeing Cristo, Pão de Açúcar and Copacabana beach, I can't think of any reason going back there, except maybe staying few nights in Copacabana Palace.
Friday, with not much to do, had a date set up with a Scandallo girl to stay whole night with me, decide to go to Tulum bar, Banana Cafe, but say these places were crowded, and went back into uber planning to go back to hotel. In the car I was at 2 minds as to should I go to Cafe foto again just to see, or go back to hotel, She convinced me to lets go to Cafe foto as she have never been either. This girl is at least a 8 in my books, with bunda the right size, and about my height 5'7.
350 Reais for entrance with 150 consumable, 350 each for man and lady. Atmosphere is more relaxed but still party atmosphere, 100% better than Lotus Club. Not too many girls, but my girl noticed 2 other girls that works in Scandallo and pointed out to me, and told me one of the girl is actually very pretty, could not see at first as she was quite far, and quite dark. Curly long black haired lady with white long pants and shirt, can't really judge how would she look without it, but from the shape of her pants, I know she has some beautiful legs. Ll. She walked and chatted at 2 tables before standing on the sidelines, still I am quite unwilling LOL, so my girl ask me if we should talk with her, and next thing, she came and sit and chatted for abit. She does look pretty 8. 5/10 when she sat down. Eccentric lady, who is a personal trainer. I guess the others did not pick her because she does not have big boobs, and thank god I ignored that part at the time as I really wanted my trip to end on a high, as I did not have a good threesome with an acomphantes and her friend on SPlove, both girls are not pretty, and avoid kissing. That is also why I always don't care about girls that her face obscured. But the one girl was tall and has perfect natural the cups. Soo whatever.
Went to Asturias, and damn when after she cleaned up and took off everything and came into the Jacuzzi, I could see her more clearly and god damn, she is at least a 10. She said she works at Scandallo and come at 10 pm, but I for have never seen her there before. How did I miss this one? LOL, she went to Cafe Foto on Friday because she said its not good in Scandallo on Friday. She has at least an A cup, not totally flat but the ass and body and face are like a goddess, just god damn. This became the best threesome I had, and best night. But my god the ass LOL.
Also, there is some kind of celebrity at Renaissance, not sure who, but see many people in the lobby and outside on the streets, and hear shouting and cheering.
Am currently trying to schedule another date with her again, hopefully I can before my flight on Sunday.
Jergens007
03-19-22, 18:38
Great report thank you! Maybe we were at Scandallo at the same time. Love the place!
Like many of you, I have traveled all over the world and have had some remarkable experiences. When it comes to this trip, I absolutely fell in love with the beauty and passion of Brazilian women. I think Scandallo is an amazing place, but I actually prefer going to a place like Globe in Zurich more because I'm surrounded by sexy women parading around the club naked. Admittely, I just love being around lots of naked women! I went with 4 garotas at Scandallo because they looked beautiful in what they were wearing but 3 of the four were very thin and had no boobs. What's wrong with being thin and having big boobs? The one garota I was with that was thin with big boobs had a
Axel Heyst
03-19-22, 20:39
Great Report, ATex. I enjoyed reading it. Scandallo is a world class bordello. I didn't believe all the hype until I went there a few times and experienced it for myself. It rates right up there with my favorite bordellos: Rio Sauna (Macau), Malio Club (Jakarta) and the Lord (BKK: now closed because they were caught stealing city water).
RJ is good, but it has no brothel to compare with Scandallo. I guess it is obvious which city I prefer. KKK. But as much as I enjoy nights at Scandallo, I am glad SP has other Boates worth going to. Bomboa, for example, is very different and a lot of fun too. I met some great girls there. Casarao is also worthy. And don't forget the Moema Clinicas which offer the best afternoon bang for your buck this side of the Atlantic Ocean.
These venues are the main reasons to keep coming back to SP and the girls of course. Duh. I have 3.5 weeks to go until I return. Can't wait!
I arrived Saturday morning from USA. Rented a car and was at the Marriott executive apartments by 2:30. I had a date scheduled with someone I had met three years ago and had kept in touch with me. At 5:00 I had not heard from her so I went to Tangara Clinic. Met a wonderful Julia there and spent an hour making love to a pretty young girl but I held back on finishing. The girl could not understand and was scared I would be unhappy. I told her it was my plan and we decided to keep in touch. While I was with her my date texted that her son was sick and she could not come. So, I texted someone else that I had met in 2018 and she said she would love to see me. At 9:00 I walked two blocks from my hotel to get a pizza and By 10:00 she was at my hotel. We ate pizza, drank some wine and she chastised me for not keeping in touch better. We started cuddling on the couch and it did not take long before she initiated some kissing, all our clothes were off and then into the bed. I had remembered that she was hot blooded but man I was blown away. Many orgasms later we were spent and I started to go to sleep. She started rubbing my chest and brought me back up again for another round. Then this morning we were at it again. LOL Impressive time for a man in his 60's.
I still have another date next week with someone else I had met before.
I have not had this kind of love and affection any where else.
...........waited for her at the restaurant Banzeiro, which is an Amazonian cuisine that I wished I knew of. It was delicious, and unique.
Restaurant Banzeiro- is an Amazonian restaurant that everyone needs to try once if in Sao Paulo or never been to the Amazon.Great tip Nuupter. Did you try the lemon ants? They're pretty tasty. I read an article of someone eating them alive off a reed in the Amazon. They said it was a funny, tickly feeling. I wouldn't go that far and eat them alive.
Although I prefer ocean fish, it's interesting to try pirarucu and other unusual river fish.
Great tip Nuupter. Did you try the lemon ants? They're pretty tasty. I read an article of someone eating them alive off a reed in the Amazon. They said it was a funny, tickly feeling. I wouldn't go that far and eat them alive.
Although I prefer ocean fish, it's interesting to try pirarucu and other unusual river fish.OH Ya we did. The girl that wanted me to show me that restaurant said hehehe, they have formiga here. I wondered what that is till she ordered it. She ate it without a flinch, and it took me about 5 minutes to put that 1 ant into my mouth, and almost spit the ant out trying to bite down lmao! That's how hard it was for me to eat insects LOL. It did taste good though, but never again haha. Yea the pirorucu and thamaqui is good. We had the costelinha tambaqui, and few others. The ant that has only 2 inside lukily, or that girl going to keep on laughing while watching me have a hard time LOL.
Went there again at night for dinner on the same day, but with different girl, wonder what they think of me hahaha.
Albha Rimon
03-20-22, 21:40
When it comes to entertainment, I was in SP primarily to visit Scandallo but I did a lot of research prior to my trip in the event that I needed other options. I researched most of the clinicas in the area that were frequently mentioned in posts on this forum. I was getting the status updates from the clinicas on WhatsApp in the weeks leading up to my trip and there were about 6 ladies that I really wanted to see during the days. The week before my departure to Brazil all but one of the clinica girls I wanted to see disappeared off the daily status and when I messaged the clinicas was advised that they quit working there.
Given that most of the ladies at the clinicas that I wanted to meet had quit right before my arrival, I decided to take an Uber on Saturday afternoon and hit some of the ones in the Moema area with my first destination being Prime. On my way from the Hyatt to Prime a storm came down on SP like you would not believe. There was torrential rain and even hail pounding down on my Uber on the drive over to Prime. It was almost as if the man above was trying to send me a message to stop. I got drenched in the seconds exiting my Uber and entering Prime. Over the next two hours I visited Prime, Abbora, Miruna, Spa MOAH and Lotus Lounge and saw the presentations at each. I was wet, cold, tired, hungry and did not see one lady that I was interested in. I was growing increasingly discouraged because there were so many ladies at these clinicas with large tattoos or they were not my preferred body type. There were no ladies comparable to what I saw at Scandallo the night before. The most promising clinica was Lotus Lounge but at the time I arrived there were only two ladies available. I decided to make a reservation for one of the more popular ladies at Lotus Lounge to come back on Monday and I was scheduled to be her first appointment of the day at 11:30 am..Hi,
Where is Where is Spa MOAH located?
Albha Rimon
03-20-22, 22:02
I flew home from Brazil a few nights ago but before I left Sao Paulo, I was fortunate to spend the last 12 hours in my hotel room with a sexy, beautiful, kind, and affectionate Brazilian lady that I met on my first night. It was the perfect way to end my trip as she walked me out of the hotel, hugged me, and kissed me goodbye as I got into my Uber to leave for the airport. So hard to say goodbye to this lady!
My trip to Brazil was prompted by seeing Scandallo mentioned on another forum on ISG a couple months ago. Rio was on my bucket list of places to visit as a tourist, but Brazil was never a place I thought to visit as a hobbyist. That is until I started reading this forum and learning about Scandallo and what SP offered. For weeks I did my best to research SP and Rio to plan out a good trip. I even sought out the advice on this forum and many of you contributed (much thanks).
Despite doing a fair amount of research, I made a lot of mistakes and found myself adapting my plans during my stay in Brazil. For the purposes of this post, I am going to do my best to share those mistakes as well as things I learned during my trip that might be helpful for first-timers or those considering a trip to SP and Rio.
Before I get into my mistakes, I want to share that I used VeriFLY to upload all of my COVID vaccination and test results. It's free and super easy to use. I had to show the pass on my phone upon my departure and my arrival. I also ordered my Abbott COVID test kits on eMed.com and it was relatively easy to take the COVID test in my hotel room the day prior to my departure. It takes 15 minutes to get the results and then upload the results to VeriFLY...Thank you for this contribution!
Could you also share your good experiences in the Clinicas?
Been spending a lot of time with the reference girl, she keeps very busy. She has told me not to share her number anywhere so that's that. She usually comes to me around 3 pm and then leaves 7 pm for a few hours and then comes back to sleep with me at 10 pm for the night. She has a Chinese boyfriend, 40 years old with a yacht and all. She has a car and a fancy Prada bag given to her as gifts by this guy. She doesn't have a drivers license LOL. She is Argentinian.
She loves to party, like goes through a bottle of vodka 3 times a week at different clubs. We went to a bar / club called MAHAU, it was me, and 2 girls and one of their friends who was gay. The girls refused to let me pay for their drinks or for their time. Good mix of electronic music and Brazilian funk music' I was making out with and grinding with both the girls the whole night. I had my hands all over their bodies all the time and they seemed to enjoy it. If I took my hand off; they'd make a face and take my hand and put it on their ass. Good times.
A note on drugs in Brazil. Both the girls and the gay guy do drugs and so do a lot of girls here in SP. According to Gabi; she showed me a menu of all sorts of drugs. It was like a restaurant menu with pictures and everything!. That's something I have never seen before! They bought MD and were going to a rave at a rooftop party one night. The last night with the girl, she didn't ask for any money so I just opened her purse and put some in. She doesn't let me pay parking for her car or for Uber when we go out LOL.
Gabi was telling me a lot of girls at Scandallo can make up to 3000-4000 Reais a day working and many have bought cars, and houses through this line of work.
Gabi is a gamer, and she dresses up on Tik Tok in different Hentai themed outfits and has a lot of followers. Very cute.
The other girl and I went to Liberdad, the cathedral nearby and the municipal market and then for dinner to Terraco Italia (long ass line here even with a reservation).
She took me to the Bradesco bank in Liberdad and deposited from what I could make out at least 10 k BRL in cash there LOL.
I was staying at the Pullman Ibirapuera, in their pullman suite. Very nice hotel and suite; it definitely does make a difference with the girls. Every-single one I brought in commented on it. The food sucked! Occasionally they even got the wrong order to the room. They downgraded me to a regular room for my last night citing maintenance problems and refunded the room rack rate back on my credit card.
Still no bareback.
Just got to Rio. The girl in SP told me she was busy otherwise she would have come to Rio with me (without me even asking her). She might come in a few days but in the meantime she offered the number of a friend and I have just contacted her. She showed me pictures on instagram and she looks pretty good.
I'm staying in Copacabana with a balcony on a high floor and the view is spectacular.
Next post will be on the Rio forum whenever I get a chance.
LionsNTigers
03-21-22, 01:09
2000 R may not be so much now but wait until the Real gains to 2. 5, are you willing to pay 2000 R still?
Anyway, point is stop paying gringo price evening if you can afford it now. Trust me, the girl will never forget what you paid and will ask the same each time, she won't accept less.
Before the pandemic the going rate was 1000 R for overnight with a Scandallo girl and now they want that for 1 hour. The exchange was around 4 in 2019 so that is $250 usd for overnight so lets say it drops to 4 again and you pay 2000 R still that is 500 usd. Pandemic is ending so the rate going down to 4 is in the near future. This now makes it really difficult for other mongers probably. For everyone that is paying 20000 R sake, please stop paying gringo prices. People ask me what is a fair rate and I said no more than 1500 R for overnight!What are you talking about? I didn't agree to 2000, read the report. She asked 2000 and I negotiated her to 1000 for overnight. Which is considerably less than your "fair rate." Dafuq man, get it together.
LionsNTigers
03-21-22, 01:14
I always pay between EUR 2000-2700 in business class from Europe. And that's cheap. I have flown with Lufthansa, Air France, KLM and Iberia. I used to travel in economy and pay EUR 800, but I'm done traveling 16-20 hours packed like a sardine (I'm 6'4") in a middle seat in row 46. I work hard and go for vacation to Brazil. I go there to relax and do more than just mongering. I'm happy to pay for the comfort and arrive well rested to my destination. In March 2020 when the pandemic started and we didn't know much about the virus, just that people were dying like flies, I was specially happy that there wasn't anybody sitting close to me.
P.S. I also always buy a GOL max ticket, when flying domestic in Brazil. Fully changeable, first to board and first to leave the plane and 10 cms more leg space.
Air France A350 1-2-1 seating from my last trip.I pay $5500 USD coming from the US for first class. I'm here for business though.
I don't know. I paid EUR 2700 for my flight to Brazil and a ticket to Spain would cost EUR 350. I don't save any money going to Brazil.You said you work in BR? So your company paid for your flight?
BTW can't compare price of first class within Europe to long haul international, I know I flew over 2 million miles.
All of the gringos who are paying this much is the main cause of world wide inflation. Pretty soon its just going to be foreigners at Scandallo because No brazilians will pay this much for a girl no matter who she is.Like others said, girls prefer gringos so they can get more.
There are girls that go upstairs for 400 R there if you speak Portuguese so locals will still go there.
Every girl has their own price they will go for but for the most part 90% will go upstairs for 700 R and be clear what you want her to do fetish wise. Or start with 500 and add on fetish for 100 R each. If she wants 1000 R and won't negotiate tell her you want 1.5 HR upstairs!
90% will go out for 1500 R be clear what you want her to do how many times you want sex and until what time you want her to stay. Or tell her you want a test drive upstairs and give you discount price for taking her out later, she will put extra effort upstairs!
These are pros, they are use to kinky shit so just be straight up!
From where you got that information? I will be also in SP from this Sunday for 1 week. I am not scared of crime there but of problems flying back cause of the strike. How sure it is that it will come and affect airliners?
I arrived Saturday morning from USA. Rented a car and was at the Marriott executive apartments by 2:30. I had a date scheduled with someone I had met three years ago and had kept in touch with me ... Just curious, how do you like the driving in Sampa? (ie. The roads, traffic, other drivers...etc).
Is Sampa, relatively easy to navigate?
Probably cheaper and less of a headache to just use uber than rent a car and pay for gas and find parking and worry about it getting carjacked.
Just curious, how do you like the driving in Sampa? (ie. The roads, traffic, other drivers...etc).
Is Sampa, relatively easy to navigate?
EverythingBlue
03-22-22, 01:30
Been spending a lot of time with the reference girl, she keeps very busy. She has told me not to share her number anywhere so that's that. She usually comes to me around 3 pm and then leaves 7 pm for a few hours and then comes back to sleep with me at 10 pm for the night. She has a Chinese boyfriend, 40 years old with a yacht and all. She has a car and a fancy Prada bag given to her as gifts by this guy. She doesn't have a drivers license LOL. She is Argentinian.
She loves to party, like goes through a bottle of vodka 3 times a week at different clubs. We went to a bar / club called MAHAU, it was me, and 2 girls and one of their friends who was gay. The girls refused to let me pay for their drinks or for their time. Good mix of electronic music and Brazilian funk music' I was making out with and grinding with both the girls the whole night. I had my hands all over their bodies all the time and they seemed to enjoy it. If I took my hand off; they'd make a face and take my hand and put it on their ass. Good times.
A note on drugs in Brazil. Both the girls and the gay guy do drugs and so do a lot of girls here in SP. According to Gabi; she showed me a menu of all sorts of drugs. It was like a restaurant menu with pictures and everything!. That's something I have never seen before! They bought MD and were going to a rave at a rooftop party one night. The last night with the girl, she didn't ask for any money so I just opened her purse and put some in. She doesn't let me pay parking for her car or for Uber when we go out LOL.
Gabi was telling me a lot of girls at Scandallo can make up to 3000-4000 Reais a day working and many have bought cars, and houses through this line of work.
Gabi is a gamer, and she dresses up on Tik Tok in different Hentai themed outfits and has a lot of followers. Very cute.
The other girl and I went to Liberdad, the cathedral nearby and the municipal market and then for dinner to Terraco Italia (long ass line here even with a reservation).
She took me to the Bradesco bank in Liberdad and deposited from what I could make out at least 10 k BRL in cash there LOL.
I was staying at the Pullman Ibirapuera, in their pullman suite. Very nice hotel and suite; it definitely does make a difference with the girls. Every-single one I brought in commented on it. The food sucked! Occasionally they even got the wrong order to the room. They downgraded me to a regular room for my last night citing maintenance problems and refunded the room rack rate back on my credit card.
Still no bareback.
Just got to Rio. The girl in SP told me she was busy otherwise she would have come to Rio with me (without me even asking her). She might come in a few days but in the meantime she offered the number of a friend and I have just contacted her. She showed me pictures on instagram and she looks pretty good.
I'm staying in Copacabana with a balcony on a high floor and the view is spectacular.
Next post will be on the Rio forum whenever I get a chance.Sounds like you're in pretty tight with the girls, and got to enjoy a lot of fun activities. Why do you think they are so cool with you? Any ideas of what's working for you? I've found that getting bareback is not that difficult, did you take tests prior to your trip to show them you're clean? I figured as tight as you guys are it shouldn't be difficult to swing a threesome all bareback.
I haven't read about drug use in other SP reports before, quite honestly I did not see any signs of girls using in clubs or Clinicas during my trips. Is this something you've seen before? I wonder how common it is.
Just curious, how do you like the driving in Sampa? (ie. The roads, traffic, other drivers...etc).
Is Sampa, relatively easy to navigate?Who has time to be stuck in Sao Paulo traffic?
https://www.efe.com/efe/english/business/low-cost-helicopters-a-growing-transport-segment-in-sao-paulo/50000265-3414571
Drugs- I don't think they would do it in front of you or let you know they do it unless your close to them. It's common but invisible. I have seen it in my time in Moscow with some of the working girls doing some drugs. Nothing hardcore though. Like both the girls SP were wanting to do MD, just to get some energy and rave all night long. Then they spend the next day at home nursing themselves back to life.
Bareback. Both these girls are very well educated, travelled and speak great English. I honestly didn't push it too much. I agree with you, if I did ask them again and was a little more assertive I would have probably gotten it. I do have a test on me.
I am usually an asshole but I have a facade of a nice guy LOL. I'm young and in decent shape, also decent looking I think. At-least 20 women told me how handsome I am while walking through Scandallo. One of them grabbed my face and started making out with me randomly. Although I don't believe any of them. I am average in looks.
I tend to be generous with them when I go out, I don't mind buying them small trinkets or souvenirs and of-course their food and transport. By the end of it, they were paying for me though haha. Nice girls. Maybe I just lucked out, I don't know.
For instance since Gabi is fond of VR, I made her try out a VR experience in one of the malls. Took her to see Batman in one of the higher end cinemas where couples can snuggle up with each other. I bought yogurt and umbrellas for the other girl. I remembered personal things they said about their families or brothers or sisters. (I have a good memory).
I like to take them out to see places in the city, movies and nice dinners, bars and maybe even to nightclubs like I did with these girls.
Its not just about the sex for me, while sex is great' I've found I like a connection with the girls I am with which then almost always translates to better sex in the bedroom.
I am a sucker for pretty faces. So big Brazilian booty without a good face doesn't really do anything for me.
Sounds like you're in pretty tight with the girls, and got to enjoy a lot of fun activities. Why do you think they are so cool with you? Any ideas of what's working for you? I've found that getting bareback is not that difficult, did you take tests prior to your trip to show them you're clean? I figured as tight as you guys are it shouldn't be difficult to swing a threesome all bareback.
I haven't read about drug use in other SP reports before, quite honestly I did not see any signs of girls using in clubs or Clinicas during my trips. Is this something you've seen before? I wonder how common it is.
SomeGuy543
03-22-22, 06:14
Hi all,
I've browsed this forum for some time, there's quite a bit of info, but some details are evading me.
For example, when people are talking about clinicas and prices, I assume the price is for the service, right?
I once went into a massage place in Thailand and you really had to pay for massage first and then negotiate later in the room with the girl for anything else. I wasn't sure how much she was going to ask, and what she'd be willing to do. Is this something that could be negotiated in advance here or one has to take a gamble? How does the process work? I haven't stumbled upon a description of it yet.
I only speak / understand a few words of Portuguese, that's probably going to be a challenge as well, which is why I trying to get these details in advance.
Also, what are typically best times / days to go to clinicas? It likely varies, but it's probably not a night thing like boates?
...For example, when people are talking about clinicas and prices, I assume the price is for the service, right?
I once went into a massage place in Thailand and you really had to pay for massage first and then negotiate later in the room with the girl for anything else. I wasn't sure how much she was going to ask, and what she'd be willing to do. Is this something that could be negotiated in advance here or one has to take a gamble? How does the process work? I haven't stumbled upon a description of it yet....I think you went to the wrong place in Thailand. It is quite similar if you go to the right place. In Thailand, you pick a girl from a presentation of all girls in a line up and pay after the selection before the service. Usually there will be massage. In SP, girl comes to greet you one at a time. You can ask some simple question here or later. You pay after the session. The price is all inclusive. You may not get massage at all because that is not a requirement for girls to work there.
Afternoon is the better time to visit clinicas. It opens early but the selection will be slim.
You said you work in BR? So your company paid for your flight?
BTW can't compare price of first class within Europe to long haul international, I know I flew over 2 million miles.I have never said I work in Brazil. I replied to your post where you said people go to Brazil to save money. If I wanted save money, I would fly to Germany or Spain and pay EUR200 or EUR350 respectively, instead of going to Brazil and paying EUR2700. That's all, YMMV. Unfortunately I have to pay all my own tickets.
Who has time to be stuck in Sao Paulo traffic?
https://www.efe.com/efe/english/business/low-cost-helicopters-a-growing-transport-segment-in-sao-paulo/50000265-3414571Yeah! If only we could all roll like that. Go Player!
I arrived Saturday morning from USA. Rented a car and was at the Marriott executive apartments by 2:30 ... Clearly some BMs do have the time and I guess most enjoy, said car rental.
Probably cheaper and less of a headache to just use uber than rent a car and pay for gas and find parking and worry about it getting carjacked. Sure there are some negatives about driving in Sampa, as you've mentioned and all good points to consider. BTW, the same holds true for Rio.
But clearly some BMs, do rent cars and drive in Sampa (or Rio?) and may see things a little differently and have some insights or shared benefits, as to why they prefer to rent / drive in Sampa.
Drugs- I don't think they would do it in front of you or let you know they do it unless your close to them. It's common but invisible. I have seen it in my time in Moscow with some of the working girls doing some drugs. Nothing hardcore though. Like both the girls SP were wanting to do MD, just to get some energy and rave all night long. Then they spend the next day at home nursing themselves back to life.
Never heard or seen a drug menu but I'm kinda of a square since I don't do any drugs and drink just as much.
Many girls I've been with told me that sometimes they'll go to parties with some guys and drugs are offered and to fit in they'll do it too.
Weed is obviously used but cocaine and Adderall are very common. I remember one girl showing her friends private IG story and everyday she would show her new lines.
Given their line of work it's not surprising. It helps cope with some really bad experiences.
That being said some girls don't do it at all since they got kids and are actual professionals with real jobs.
Some just carry themselves really good.
I've seen some girls with some needle marks. It's very common and kinda sad.
Never heard or seen a drug menu but I'm kinda of a square since I don't do any drugs and drink just as much.
Many girls I've been with told me that sometimes they'll go to parties with some guys and drugs are offered and to fit in they'll do it too.
Weed is obviously used but cocaine and Adderall are very common. I remember one girl showing her friends private IG story and everyday she would show her new lines.
Given their line of work it's not surprising. It helps cope with some really bad experiences.
That being said some girls don't do it at all since they got kids and are actual professionals with real jobs.
Some just carry themselves really good.
I've seen some girls with some needle marks. It's very common and kinda sad.Drug dealers are always in the boites so it's always around. Girls tell me at least 50% of the girls do drugs. To cope most do xtacy while working, k to relax, coc with clients since its expensive.
Girls in the US use drugs too.
Never heard or seen a drug menu but I'm kinda of a square since I don't do any drugs and drink just as much.
Many girls I've been with told me that sometimes they'll go to parties with some guys and drugs are offered and to fit in they'll do it too.
Weed is obviously used but cocaine and Adderall are very common. I remember one girl showing her friends private IG story and everyday she would show her new lines.
Given their line of work it's not surprising. It helps cope with some really bad experiences.
That being said some girls don't do it at all since they got kids and are actual professionals with real jobs.
Some just carry themselves really good.
I've seen some girls with some needle marks. It's very common and kinda sad.
LionsNTigers
03-23-22, 22:42
Hey fellas,
Question about hotels and registering guests, as I have only been the one time and didn't have an issue last time.
I am going to have a friend (a local, but a civilian) stay with me for a few days on my next trip. I am staying at the Renaissance and have asked them to make it a 2-adult stay (no additional charge with my rate). I'm curious about what signals will go with that. Will a receipt show both names, or even that there were two guests? Will they want to have her officially on the register in some way, or just want to have the reservation setup for two people and no other interest or inquiry?
Her idea was to have a second room reserved for her so it doesn't show up and none of my colleagues see her leave my room, which I think is so unlikely I am not concerned.
You guys are all experienced, what am I not thinking of that could get me in trouble with the SO?
Totally agree with Hobbying. More importantly, high rates do not guarantee a good service. One of the recent reports mentions CBJ, which is outrageous at this price point. No matter how hot she is, $300-$400 is a lot of money for 1 day of work in Brazil and she has to earn it. The issue I see here is that Scandallo girls are working girls, and they see and treat you as clients. Some poster said earlier that many of them are doctors, lawyers, etc. I really doubt it, have you ever seen a smoking hot young doctor or lawyer? I haven't. It takes years of studying, internships, etc to become one, and all the stress gained along the way adds up and affects the looks. It is a good selling strategy to say you are a doctor / lawyer etc. Because that helps to jack up the price. Some guys would say, yeah, it is pricey, but you pay to be around beautiful girls, at a nice establishment, bla bla bla, but at the end of the day, we are all here to fuck, and what happens in the bedroom matters the most. To me, this looks like a pricey bet. You see a hot girl, but you have no idea what kind of service you will get, but you have to discuss the price upfront, make your bet and see if it pays off. Like at any other venue. The difference is that in Rio, for example, it could be 50%-70% less expensive. In Bogota and Medellin I can guarantee you can get any smoking hot goddess for less than $200 overnight, anything over $100 would be sufficient. My take is that Scandallo is a good place for folks who are not price sensitive, for all others there are better places out there.
Axel Heyst
03-23-22, 23:35
we are all here to fuck, and what happens in the bedroom matters the most. To me, this (Scandallo) looks like a pricey bet. You see a hot girl, but you have no idea what kind of service you will get, but you have to discuss the price upfront, make your bet and see if it pays off. Like at any other venue. The difference is that in Rio, for example, it could be 50%-70% less expensive. In Bogota and Medellin I can guarantee you can get any smoking hot goddess for less than $200 overnight, anything over $100 would be sufficient. My take is that Scandallo is a good place for folks who are not price sensitive, for all others there are better places out there.1. I have yet to find a place in RJ with the same quality & quantity girls as Scandallo. I have been to all the tier 1 termas and I have met some great terma girls whom I have had great sex with, but the hottest terma girls are not in the same league looks wise with the top 20% of Scandallo girls. That's just a fact, Jack. KKK.
2. I don't do LT with girls I just met until I have had them ST at least once and we have established a rapport between us and the sex is great. This approach eliminates 95% of the poor performance risk we both dislike.
In addition, I generally receive better overnight offers from the girls I have previously had great sex with, but occasionally a girl I have had sex with will ask what I consider to be a non friendly overnight price. I simply tell her, no thanks, and I move on. Ha Ha. Her loss. It's not like I am horny for an all-nighter. In fact, I would rather do 2 different Scandallo girls at succeeding times in the evening, than do one girl 3 times overnight. But that's just me.
One of the recent reports mentions CBJ, which is outrageous at this price point. No matter how hot she is, $300-$400 is a lot of money for 1 day of work in Brazil and she has to earn it.It's not just gringos. The locals get bad service too. In October I WhatsApped maybe 8 girls asking about their services and pricing and only one quoted more than what was reported on the local forums. Same thing in Casarao and Bomboa. I don't think I have paid significantly more than what the locals pay. I don't know what the locals pay in Scandallo.
It's not just gringos. The locals get bad service too. In October I WhatsApped maybe 8 girls asking about their services and pricing and only one quoted more than what was reported on the local forums. Same thing in Casarao and Bomboa. I don't think I have paid significantly more than what the locals pay. I don't know what the locals pay in Scandallo.If locals pay the same, they are probably not price sensitive and can afford it. Do they get bad service? I don't know. But it would be stupid to treat a local client badly, because he could potentially become a regular client who lives in SP 365 days a year vs a gringo coming down for a few days, and also, can spread negative reviews among other locals. If I were a working girl at Scandallo, I would think twice.
It is like renting a car for 1 day. You can get a Honda Civic for under $50/ day or you can get an S class for $200/ day. Both cars will get you from point A to point be. If Honda is clean and has no mechanical issues, you probably will be satisfied considering its rental rate. Mercedes for $200/ day is another level, presentable, comfortable, fast, etc. Can you imagine an S class running like Honda once you turn the engine on? Impossible.
Same thing with the girls. Santa Fe street walkers charge $10-$15 per session, but you usually get what you pay for and can't really complain because you fucked a girl for the price of a lunch at Whole Foods. Scandallo girls charge much more, and you expect an impeccable service. But can you imagine a Scandallo hottie performing like a SF girl? Bunch of rules, I don't do this, I don't do that, watching the clock, etc? Easily.
Gigi Buffon
03-24-22, 01:48
Hey fellas,
Question about hotels and registering guests, as I have only been the one time and didn't have an issue last time.
I am going to have a friend (a local, but a civilian) stay with me for a few days on my next trip. I am staying at the Renaissance and have asked them to make it a 2-adult stay (no additional charge with my rate). I'm curious about what signals will go with that. Will a receipt show both names, or even that there were two guests? Will they want to have her officially on the register in some way, or just want to have the reservation setup for two people and no other interest or inquiry?
Her idea was to have a second room reserved for her so it doesn't show up and none of my colleagues see her leave my room, which I think is so unlikely I am not concerned.
You guys are all experienced, what am I not thinking of that could get me in trouble with the SO?The invoice will be under your name only. Most likely it will show that there were two guest, if you requested two guest. Most hotels will ask you to register your guest, if she is planning to stay beyond a one-nighter or use the facilities of the hotel on her own. Now, you can skip registering her by requesting a second key and giving it to her separately, if you know her well enough to trust her with your personal belongings and potential room charges (eg room service, etc), as she can come and go out of the room on her own. If you were staying in the Grand Hyatt, they will make you register all guests.
...To me, this looks like a pricey bet. You see a hot girl, but you have no idea what kind of service you will get, but you have to discuss the price upfront...It's not as risky as you think. You can find out a lot in the club. I did before I was told here that no one did those things in the club. LOL.
I think the qualification of lawyer or doctor may be easier than US so you can't judge them as the same if that is the case.
If someone visit the club and only session with 3 girls during the visit. It is possible all 3 are well educated. Based on the experience, he may say all girls in the club are well educated. That is nothing unusual. Logically speaking some combinations are rare so that is why it is YMMV.
You can consider Scandallo another form of SA except you accelerate the process and interview all the girls in one night.
Sometimes I think I pay more for my time, not the girl's time.
Vagabundo1
03-24-22, 02:55
I've met real Brazilian women lawyers and doctors, some very attractive, through work.
There are not any of them at the termas or prives.
Whoring may be legal in Brazil, but it is still the bottom 5 or 10% of society.
It's not as risky as you think. You can find out a lot in the club. I did before I was told here that no one did those things in the club. LOL.
I think the qualification of lawyer or doctor may be easier than US so you can't judge them as the same if that is the case.
If someone visit the club and only session with 3 girls during the visit. It is possible all 3 are well educated. Based on the experience, he may say all girls in the club are well educated. That is nothing unusual. Logically speaking some combinations are rare so that is why it is YMMV.
You can consider Scandallo another form of SA except you accelerate the process and interview all the girls in one night.
Sometimes I think I pay more for my time, not the girl's time.
Some poster said earlier that many of them are doctors, lawyers, etc. I really doubt it, have you ever seen a smoking hot young doctor or lawyer? I haven't. It takes years of studying, internships, etc to become one, and all the stress gained along the way adds up and affects the looks. It is a good selling strategy to say you are a doctor / lawyer etc. Because that helps to jack up the price.I have found that a lot of the time, the girls' talk about their education and career is, shall we say, "aspirational" LOL! They're constantly working towards it, but few ever really seem to accomplish the full task, for whatever reasons. Sometimes it's money. And sometimes they just decided to get married and have some babies.
TSome poster said earlier that many of them are doctors, lawyers, etc. I really doubt it, have you ever seen a smoking hot young doctor or lawyer? I haven't. It takes years of studying, internships, etc to become one, and all the stress gained along the way adds up and affects the looks. It is a good selling strategy to say you are a doctor / lawyer etc. Because that helps to jack up the price. .They are actually speaking the truth, unlike FKK girls in Germany. How I know? They show me their private instagram. Though, they are still studying to become one and some has only has 1 to 2 years left in their curriculum. There is a girl who also told me, once you are in this world, you will never get out of it, that includes the girls, because the money is too good.
Hey fellas,
Question about hotels and registering guests, as I have only been the one time and didn't have an issue last time.
I am going to have a friend (a local, but a civilian) stay with me for a few days on my next trip. I am staying at the Renaissance and have asked them to make it a 2-adult stay (no additional charge with my rate). I'm curious about what signals will go with that. Will a receipt show both names, or even that there were two guests? Will they want to have her officially on the register in some way, or just want to have the reservation setup for two people and no other interest or inquiry?
Her idea was to have a second room reserved for her so it doesn't show up and none of my colleagues see her leave my room, which I think is so unlikely I am not concerned.Don't cheat. Ahahahahahahahahaha.
Axel Heyst
03-24-22, 03:47
ISanta Fe street walkers charge $10-$15 per session, but you usually get what you pay for and can't really complain because you fucked a girl for the price of a lunch at Whole Foods. Scandallo girls charge much more, and you expect an impeccable service. But can you imagine a Scandallo hottie performing like a SF girl? Bunch of rules, I don't do this, I don't do that, watching the clock, etc? Easily.I don't know where you are getting this stuff about Scandallo girls. Pardon me, but I don't remember reading one of your SP Scandallo reports, so I have to ask if you speaking from 1st hand experience or just blowing smoke?
I have done around 25 Scandallo girls and probably an equal number of Bomboa girls in my two 2021 trips to SP and I never had a bad session. In fact some of my boate sessions rank among the best sex I have in the last 10 to 15 years and that is saying a fucking lot, 555, because in the last 20 years, up until Covid, I spent 2 to 3 months a year fucking around in BKK, Pat, PNH, CGK, RGN, MNL, HKG, and MFM.
My only complaint about my Boate girls, Clinica girls, and my RJ Terma girls is Bareback vaginal sex is rare. In fact, to date only 3 Brazilian girls have given me bareback sex (only 4% approx). Of course YMMV, I hope it does, but my experience with Brazilian hookers is that they are very passionate in bed, but they want the condom for vaginal or anal sex no matter what I say to persuade them to go bareback. This is my only complaint with Brazilian hookers. I know some guys who consider this a deal breaker and they choose to remain in SE Asia. Not me.
Anyway, I never negotiate. I will invite a girl I like the looks of over for a drink and an audition which includes a little conversation, kissing, & touching. At some point in the interview I will decide if I want her or not and if I want her I'll ask if she wants to go upstairs. Once in a while a girl preempts me and asks if I want to go up stairs with her. In either case it is at this point that we briefly discuss money. Specifically, I have had Scandallo girls ask 1000,900, 800,700, 600,500, or say "up to you" for a ST romp. But unless her offer is 500 from the get go, I will just discretely hold up the palm of my hand and say 500 with a smile and BINGO, they all accept my 500 offer and that is the end of that. Only one time did a Scandallo girl counter my 500 offer with 600. She was hot and I didn't feel like negotiating further or passing on her, so I accepted her 600 counter offer. What do locals pay? I am not sure, but it would not surprise me if many of them pay 400 for ST.
But like I said, I never discuss what sex I want or how I want it. I feel negotiation of terms takes away from the spontaneity of the session and the vibe I am trying to establish with my girls. I think I am pretty successful with my approach: In Brazil alone I have had no bad sessions, a hell of a lot of really good, passionate sessions, and an extraordinary number of memorable ones compared to similar stats in BKK, Pat, & CGK. This is the reason, plus ongoing covid entry restrictions in SE Asia, that I am returning shortly to Brazil for my 3rd visit in 12 months. I have spent a lot of time all over Colombia back in the day. Colombia girls are hot, I love the mountains, and I can speak Spanish more or less, but I overall prefer Brazil and their woman.
So my opinion and experience is that boate's have the top selection of girls and that these girls offer up some of the most passionate sessions I have had in recent memory. IMHO, the high quality of Scandallo boate girls and their sexual prowess is worth the $$ The condoms pain me a lot more than the money, believe me, but I think I will have to go back to Jakarta to enjoy barebacking again or find a Brazilian GF. KKK.
I did 8 girls at Scandallo during my stay. Only one turned out to be some sort of scammer (insisted on covered BJ etc.). I lost 600 R. All the same, one in eight is a scamming rate I can live with given the quality of girls there.
Now I know why some of these girls think I'm handsome.
Drug dealers are always in the boites so it's always around. Girls tell me at least 50% of the girls do drugs. To cope most do xtacy while working, k to relax, coc with clients since its expensive.
I arrived at 0800 Wed sevely jet lagged. Cash exchange place in airport lobby ripped me off and took a 200 are fee so I was limited cash wise. It took me 3 hours to get to my hotel in Ibirapuera (I got lost without WIFI trying to look for a tim store) hotel didn't want to take my credit card and only debit worked. I have quickly learned that not only Brasilians rarely speak English but no English at all unless they're a traveled professional. If someone is fluent in Spanish they might survive ok. I then nearly wasted a few more horas at the El Dorado mall where the tim store was unable to get a Brasil sim card to work in my phone (region locked), so I had to buy an ancient Brasil phone for 100 are. This screwed up a lot of plans because for awhile I couldn't download important apps until I just made a new google account to the Brasil phone.
Number. All my "study material" is still on the other phone. So its 1500, I've been awake 24 h+ and I have a phone but I can't get uber to download. I humped it 4 kilos to my hotel because fuck taxis. And this is the nice part of SP I've been told by more than 1, Brazilian drivers show remarkable discipline not hitting people. I finally collapsed in the hotel room when I got there and woke up around 9. After cleaning up and getting the phone issue somewhat resolved I went to Bomboa! I definitely was only American but a few other customers could speak English and were extremely chill and helpful. Kinda small place but I was told by the English speaker that Bomboa is superior to Scandallo because of relaxed atmosphere. Mostly fake blondes but a morena with green eyes caught my attention. Room fee+consumcion was 460, I had 1 drink and chicken dinner. Garota was 500 and she was willing to try anal but I was too big. Very nice girl she spoke some Engl I had a nice convo with her after finished and told her the truth about American (high living costs, politicians etc). Europe is better than USA except covid tyranny which guns negate to an extent in USA. She was willing to pernoite for 1000 are because she understood I was tired and by 0100 all the rooms were busy. Also I've been warned about the water unsafe to drink.
I can confirm that one of the girls at Scandallo will be a doc.
Totally agree with Hobbying. More importantly, high rates do not guarantee a good service. One of the recent reports mentions CBJ, which is outrageous at this price point. No matter how hot she is, $300-$400 is a lot of money for 1 day of work in Brazil and she has to earn it. The issue I see here is that Scandallo girls are working girls, and they see and treat you as clients. Some poster said earlier that many of them are doctors, lawyers, etc. I really doubt it, have you ever seen a smoking hot young doctor or lawyer? I haven't. It takes years of studying, internships, etc to become one, and all the stress gained along the way adds up and affects the looks. It is a good selling strategy to say you are a doctor / lawyer etc. Because that helps to jack up the price. Some guys would say, yeah, it is pricey, but you pay to be around beautiful girls, at a nice establishment, bla bla bla, but at the end of the day, we are all here to fuck, and what happens in the bedroom matters the most. To me, this looks like a pricey bet. You see a hot girl, but you have no idea what kind of service you will get, but you have to discuss the price upfront, make your bet and see if it pays off. Like at any other venue. The difference is that in Rio, for example, it could be 50%-70% less expensive. In Bogota and Medellin I can guarantee you can get any smoking hot goddess for less than $200 overnight, anything over $100 would be sufficient. My take is that Scandallo is a good place for folks who are not price sensitive, for all others there are better places out there.
HughMyron89
03-24-22, 07:49
Anyone around SP Thursday or Friday want to meet up? Been going solo the past couple days and figure it would be nice to meet up with some more seasoned vets.
There are med students and lawyers in Scandallo, I know I did a few. There is not a rigorous entry requirements for law, med, dental schools in BR so basically if they an pay the tuition at a private school you're in. Med school is about 10,000 R a month so yea either they have rich fam or work and will make about 10,000 R a month when done. Dental and law school is about 2000 R a month because coming out of school they make 3-4000 R a month so you will find them working still at boates or sites. Why some are educated and still work is because of the low salary and the high cost of living in SP and when they are use to making 10-20,000 R a month it's hard to give up that lifestyle. In Scandallo there are all sorts of clients, ones that just go there to party and dance with girls and others that want to fuck so they know gringos have money and want to fuck that's why you get more attention. There are big rollers too, I know girls that got 50,000 R a month from her sugar and another 30,000 R but this setup usually doesn't last too long because the guy gets tired of paying and wants to fuck other girls. These girls are easily spotted as well taken care of girls and during the pandemic this happened a lot when the boates were closed. The hot ones that are smart builds up a clientele and stops going to the boates until the well starts running dry. Getting bad service is uncommon in BR but shit happens if the girl knows she doesn't need to see you again.
Bareback is possible if they are willing to get tested together. The one's that don't care, imagine how many they fucked bareback? Like I said before, it's difficult to build chemistry if you don't speak Porto. My ability to speak Porto, be super nice and take them on vacations is the secret to my success at getting a GFE. Sometimes I pay them sometimes I don't. I'm sure some of you can relate to this recipe for success.
Now the exchange rate is 4.7, like I said stop paying gringo prices because when history repeats itself and becomes 1.5 again, how many are still willing to pay 1000 R / HR or 2000 R per night?
I've met real Brazilian women lawyers and doctors, some very attractive, through work.
There are not any of them at the termas or prives.
Whoring may be legal in Brazil, but it is still the bottom 5 or 10% of society.Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?
Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?If you lay down with a tute, then you too are a tute? Hahahaha!
Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?What do you think? True or not, I say it says nothing.
I went to Scandallo for the first time earlier this week. It's a nice club. I was impressed by the atmosphere. It had a lot of fun walking around, talking to so many beautiful women. The food wasn't bad either. I was not able to get the prices many on this forum have mentioned. The girls all wanted 1000 to 1500 for a short time upstairs. I offered 500,600, 700, even up to 800 with the girls. They all refused. Two beautiful girls offered a threesome and wanted 3000 total. Holy shit. They would not accept less. I'm in my 30's, moderately attractive, fit, but definitely a gringo. I felt like the girls were trying to take advantage of me for that. I thought eventually I'd find one to accept something under 1000, but no luck. I think I might try going again next week, but I'm a bit discouraged by the prices.
I've had some great experiences at the clinicas though. I had a session yesterday. The girl was very good, and I came faster than I had expected. I assumed our session was done and took a shower. After the shower, the girl asked me for more. I thought it was just a ploy to get me to pay for another hour or something, but it wasn't expensive, so I figured why not. It turned out not to be a ploy. I was ready to leave, but she wanted to fuck again. It was only 300 for both. The sex was amazing too. I was very surprised how into she was. We were both dripping with sweat when we finished. I loved watching her body convulse when she came too. Awesome experience.
I went to Scandallo for the first time earlier this week. It's a nice club. I was impressed by the atmosphere. It had a lot of fun walking around, talking to so many beautiful women. The food wasn't bad either. I was not able to get the prices many on this forum have mentioned. The girls all wanted 1000 to 1500 for a short time upstairs. I offered 500,600, 700, even up to 800 with the girls. They all refused. Two beautiful girls offered a threesome and wanted 3000 total. Holy shit. They would not accept less. I'm in my 30's, moderately attractive, fit, but definitely a gringo. I felt like the girls were trying to take advantage of me for that. I thought eventually I'd find one to accept something under 1000, but no luck. I think I might try going again next week, but I'm a bit discouraged by the prices.They're working you based on the exchange rate because you're a gringo. You know what the rate is, and so do they. Do not give one of those tutes more than R1,000!
Anyone around SP Thursday or Friday want to meet up? Been going solo the past couple days and figure it would be nice to meet up with some more seasoned vets.I'm here till Monday so I'm down for it. I've spent most of my time putting out fires like Uber not wanting to work or finding working ATMs etc. I think paying 60+'per night is paying for itself in the form of hotel employees that speak English.
SamaRiding
03-25-22, 01:12
I've had some great experiences at the clinicas though. I had a session yesterday. The girl was very good, and I came faster than I had expected. I assumed our session was done and took a shower. After the shower, the girl asked me for more. I thought it was just a ploy to get me to pay for another hour or something, but it wasn't expensive, so I figured why not. It turned out not to be a ploy. I was ready to leave, but she wanted to fuck again. It was only 300 for both. The sex was amazing.That's what I like about the clinicas. It's fixed price. No negotiation. Almost all of the clinicas, except for a few, you pay the clinicas and they will give the girl her portion at the end of day. Price is for time spent. First phone ring is at 50-55 minutes, and the second phone ring is 5-10 minutes after. I have had plenty of sessions go over the second ring and I never got charge more. In most clinicas, you pay the receptionist after and they don't know if you just got a massage or came 5 times. Probably 90% of girls will allow one shot for 30 minutes and two shots for 1 hour.
I stayed last night at the Renaissance and had a previous friend come to me. She arrived at 5:00 pm and I met her outside. We walked to the elevators and up to my room. I took her to the concierge lounge for food and drinks no problem. What a night. Brazilian girls like sex!. Then I took her to the lounge for breakfast. Had her with me when I checked out and called for my rental car. Not a problem.
I have had the same experience at Marriott Executive Apartments. Many nights I have had someone stay over night with no issues.
The only issue I ever had was at the Renaissance I had two girls stay overnight and took them to the lounge for breakfast. The hotel charged me $60 US because I took more than one guest in there so be careful of that.
Hey fellas,
Question about hotels and registering guests, as I have only been the one time and didn't have an issue last time.
I am going to have a friend (a local, but a civilian) stay with me for a few days on my next trip. I am staying at the Renaissance and have asked them to make it a 2-adult stay (no additional charge with my rate). I'm curious about what signals will go with that. Will a receipt show both names, or even that there were two guests? Will they want to have her officially on the register in some way, or just want to have the reservation setup for two people and no other interest or inquiry?
Her idea was to have a second room reserved for her so it doesn't show up and none of my colleagues see her leave my room, which I think is so unlikely I am not concerned.
You guys are all experienced, what am I not thinking of that could get me in trouble with the SO?
I met two of the girls in the hotel lobby and were dressed like regular guests. When I walked by they caught my eye and stood up and introduced themselves to me. They were sitting right by the front door. One spoke English but the other was prettier. The one who spoke English asked me if I wanted one of them to go to my room with me. Since I had a companion for the night that was much prettier, younger and built like a model I politely told them I was occupied for the night.
I just ate at a new French restaurant just a few minutes walk from the Hilton Double Tree in Itaim Bibi, Sao Paulo. It is Manuel emporio Cafe Bistro. It is on the same street as the DoubleTree. Rua Manuel guedes, 426 Itaim. I met the owners son Rafiel and we had a nice visit. I was the only one in the restaurant for dinner. The chef fixed me some wonderful steaks (two) with a sauce to die for, salad, fries and a mixed strawberry / orange juice drink. Total 115 reais. Hope someone gets to try it.
...It was only 300 for both. The sex was amazing too...Do you mean for 300 for two hours? Which clinica?
What time were you at Scandallo? I am curious what these expensive Scandallo girls look like. I have never been quoted price that high. I am thinking it is because I dressed poor, haha. If you can't negotiate price, try negotiate time instead.
Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?Bottom 5-10%? Says who?
First, I don't think garotas de programa are that bad. I think they are lovely people, in the business of pleasing men and making some money for themselves. I love them with all my heart and wish them great success. I think that girls from Scandallo can compete in practically any beauty contest. So, they are not at the bottom of anything, in my view.
Vagabundo1
03-25-22, 10:15
We are top 10%.
Hoaring is a luxury.
I too love hoars and they are lovely people.
It is legit work, but it's not good work and never will be in the christian world.
Bottom 5-10%? Says who?
First, I don't think garotas de programa are that bad. I think they are lovely people, in the business of pleasing men and making some money for themselves. I love them with all my heart and wish them great success. I think that girls from Scandallo can compete in practically any beauty contest. So, they are not at the bottom of anything, in my view.
LionsNTigers
03-25-22, 12:57
There are med students and lawyers in Scandallo, I know I did a few. There is not a rigorous entry requirements for law, med, dental schools in BR so basically if they an pay the tuition at a private school you're in. Med school is about 10,000 R a month so yea either they have rich fam or work and will make about 10,000 R a month when done. Dental and law school is about 2000 R a month because coming out of school they make 3-4000 R a month so you will find them working still at boates or sites. Why some are educated and still work is because of the low salary and the high cost of living in SP and when they are use to making 10-20,000 R a month it's hard to give up that lifestyle.This makes all the sense in the world, I know plenty of girls in the US that danced at strip clubs to pay for college, often seeing guys outside for cash. Not that rare anywhere, it seems the boates are just the much better comparative for our strip clubs. Not hard to believe this at all.
I just ate at a new French restaurant just a few minutes walk from the Hilton Double Tree in Itaim Bibi, Sao Paulo. It is Manuel emporio Cafe Bistro. It is on the same street as the DoubleTree. Rua Manuel guedes, 426 Itaim. I met the owners son Rafiel and we had a nice visit. I was the only one in the restaurant for dinner. The chef fixed me some wonderful steaks (two) with a sauce to die for, salad, fries and a mixed strawberry / orange juice drink. Total 115 reais. Hope someone gets to try it.Thanks, I will be in 4 days in Doubletree as well.
How did you get there from GRU?
Still scared of greve starting on 31.3. For trucks.
About to start day 3 as I type this. More errands had to get done, I should've brought more than one credit card because I've had several problems including uber. That didn't stop me from sessioning with a skinny Ruiva in Liberdade and going to 57 Chanes at night where it is a clinica priced boate with good staff. The mamasan running it also speaks some English. There I found a rare delectable fruit I did not expect to see. So far my batting average is 1 every 14 hours.
Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?Any monger who thinks that garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society has poor self esteem.
This week I am at the Hilton Double Tree in Ibaim. I have to leave Sunday afternoon but will be back the next Wednesday till Sunday again. I do have two girl friends who are jealous of my time but I would be up to meet for a lunch or something.
I'm here till Monday so I'm down for it. I've spent most of my time putting out fires like Uber not wanting to work or finding working ATMs etc. I think paying 60+'per night is paying for itself in the form of hotel employees that speak English.
LionsNTigers
03-25-22, 14:41
Any monger who thinks that garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society has poor self esteem.I agree, I don't look down on sex workers and don't think anyone should, especially in other parts of the world that haven't been suffering from hysterical puritanism that stigmatizes sex and sex work like we do in the US. In the US many are doing it because it's all they can do, but many others are doing it because they like it and are good at it, and I think that's great. I also think the rise of twitter and onlyfans and other platforms that allow women more autonomy has been incredibly positive, both for women controlling what they do.
That's what I like about the clinicas. It's fixed price. No negotiation. Almost all of the clinicas, except for a few, you pay the clinicas and they will give the girl her portion at the end of day. Price is for time spent. First phone ring is at 50-55 minutes, and the second phone ring is 5-10 minutes after. I have had plenty of sessions go over the second ring and I never got charge more. In most clinicas, you pay the receptionist after and they don't know if you just got a massage or came 5 times. Probably 90% of girls will allow one shot for 30 minutes and two shots for 1 hour.Oh, okay. I guess my experience wasn't out of the ordinary then. I'm used to 1 hour meaning 1 shot. I had my one shot about 30 minutes in and then showered and was getting dressed to leave when she invited me for more. I'm not sure why she just didn't let me leave. We went again until they called. Pretty awesome experience nonetheless though.
What time were you at Scandallo? I am curious what these expensive Scandallo girls look like. I have never been quoted price that high. I am thinking it is because I dressed poor, haha. If you can't negotiate price, try negotiate time instead.I was there from 9 pm to 1 am, and I was dressed moderately well. I was only talking to the girls I found most attractive and that spoke English. Maybe it's the English premium. What shocked me is that they turned down 800. Even if they are trying to take advantage of a gringo, it surprises me they would let me walk when offering 800.
They're working you based on the exchange rate because you're a gringo. You know what the rate is, and so do they. Do not give one of those tutes more than R1,000!I ended up paying one 1000. She was beautiful, but the sex wasn't out of this world for me. She wouldn't let me touch or eat her pussy, which I really like. She did BBBJ and was good at sex though. The sex at the clinica was a lot better, but the girl was not as stunning as the Scandallo girls.
LionsNTigers
03-25-22, 15:57
I met two of the girls in the hotel lobby and were dressed like regular guests. When I walked by they caught my eye and stood up and introduced themselves to me. They were sitting right by the front door. One spoke English but the other was prettier. The one who spoke English asked me if I wanted one of them to go to my room with me. Since I had a companion for the night that was much prettier, younger and built like a model I politely told them I was occupied for the night.I like that team approach.
I went to Scandallo for the first time earlier this week. It's a nice club. I was impressed by the atmosphere. It had a lot of fun walking around, talking to so many beautiful women. The food wasn't bad either. I was not able to get the prices many on this forum have mentioned. The girls all wanted 1000 to 1500 for a short time upstairs. I offered 500,600, 700, even up to 800 with the girls. They all refused. Two beautiful girls offered a threesome and wanted 3000 total. Holy shit. They would not accept less. I'm in my 30's, moderately attractive, fit, but definitely a gringo. I felt like the girls were trying to take advantage of me for that. I thought eventually I'd find one to accept something under 1000, but no luck. I think I might try going again next week, but I'm a bit discouraged by the prices.
I've had some great experiences at the clinicas though. I had a session yesterday. The girl was very good, and I came faster than I had expected. I assumed our session was done and took a shower. After the shower, the girl asked me for more. I thought it was just a ploy to get me to pay for another hour or something, but it wasn't expensive, so I figured why not. It turned out not to be a ploy. I was ready to leave, but she wanted to fuck again. It was only 300 for both. The sex was amazing too. I was very surprised how into she was. We were both dripping with sweat when we finished. I loved watching her body convulse when she came too. Awesome experience.Not only your mileage may vary, but your price may vary as well. YPMV LOL. Folks say they pay or used to pay 500 in 2021 (see one of the recent posts). Brazil got hit with post-covid inflation? Or there is an influx of gringos? Go figure.
Not only your mileage may vary, but your price may vary as well. YPMV LOL. ....Would you share some Colombia Seeking profiles or pictures that you have considered but rejected or no longer needs? That will provide some context on what you talk about.
...poor self esteem.The questions I wonder about are will I marry one? If I marry one, will I tell others her profession? Does self esteem has anything to do with either?
...I was only talking to the girls I found most attractive and that spoke English...I think based on your clinica experience, you should give other girls a chance. You can ask the girl what she will or will not do using translator in the club before going to the room.
I ended up paying one 1000. She was beautiful, but the sex wasn't out of this world for me. She wouldn't let me touch or eat her pussy, which I really like. She did BBBJ and was good at sex though. The sex at the clinica was a lot better, but the girl was not as stunning as the Scandallo girls.I always avoid these kinds of disappointments by making it clear with the girl what I want, and getting her agreement, before we go to the room. Some guys don't like to engage in this kind of "negotiation" because they need 100% spontaneity. All I have to say is if you don't ask and you get to the room and she doesn't do "that", then you have nobody to blame but yourself. Don't be ashamed to ask for what you want either. These girls have heard it all, and done a lot of it too LOL!
Anyone around SP Thursday or Friday want to meet up? Been going solo the past couple days and figure it would be nice to meet up with some more seasoned vets.What time you headed there, planning on 8 pm.
I would marry one if I am able to find one that I can "trust" and is the "right one". I would tell certain individuals that are close to me who I know who doesn't "prejudge". The majority of society if not all does prejudge about everything including people's profession, race, religion, appearance, and all of that stuff similar to how many of you prejudge if they have an education or not. Sometimes its better to say less. I have gone through endless years of higher education and I can tell you there are many people with professional degrees who I have way less respect than the girls and staff and the security guards at Scandallo.
The questions I wonder about are will I marry one? If I marry one, will I tell others her profession? Does self esteem has anything to do with either?
If an average or above girl from anywhere in the world pays me for sex, I would accept the offer too.
This makes all the sense in the world, I know plenty of girls in the US that danced at strip clubs to pay for college, often seeing guys outside for cash. Not that rare anywhere, it seems the boates are just the much better comparative for our strip clubs. Not hard to believe this at all.
I went to Abbobora and was told by a local cost was 300 (room 100, girl gets 200). Card didn't work so I paid in cash they charged me 130 anyway? I'm not the kind of guy to argue with people when I'm a guest in their country though. About 10 girls presented themselves (one at a time) only about 4 were standouts. I chose a tall Morena named Moniqe with a huge bunda assuming she'd do anal. I chose wrong. Not bad just mediocre session and ID say she was 30-35. I regretted not choosing the young redhead. Later on after walking around too much I went back to 57 House where another seasoned expat informed me I should've never paid more than 280. Because of my limited purchase options (my CC only works maybe 30% of the time here) I'm going to be forced to begin triaging. I'm trying to stay in Brasil at least 30 days.
Axel Heyst
03-26-22, 02:55
I always avoid these kinds of disappointments by making it clear with the girl what I want, and getting her agreement, before we go to the room. Some guys don't like to engage in this kind of "negotiation" because they need 100% spontaneity. All I have to say is if you don't ask and you get to the room and she doesn't do "that", then you have nobody to blame but yourself. These girls have heard it all, and done a lot of it too LOL!We obviously have two different approaches which is totally fine with me. Both ways work more or less. All I will say about why I prefer not to negotiate and lay it all out ahead of time is that I like the spontaneity as you rightly noted. Another way of describing it is that it feels more like picking up a regular girl instead of a hooker which is part of the GFE fantasy I like to engage in. Even more important, however, is the fact that I know the girls know what I want in broad general terms and I can usually accurately sense how we are doing on that score in the bar before I ask them upstairs or out. For example, I have never taken a Boate girl, a Terma girl, or a Go Go girl upstairs or out of a bar before we have had an enjoyable make out session and more and I get the sense that the vibe between us is real good. I think that positive vibe I get or don't get is a more reliable predictor of future bedroom events than a written contract. LOL. But a small percentage of girls will always get past my screening technique and under perform, disappoint from time to time by not getting into the sex and not giving me their passion. That is human nature. The object, of course, is to minimize those unfortunate lackluster sessions by spotting those kind of girls ahead of time.
If there is a specific request above regular sex like CIM or Anal than yeah, a little pre-negotiation before you go upstairs is called for. A punter has far more negotiating leverage before going to the room than after he is in the room. Something extra will always cost more money in the room. KKK. But a certain percentage of girls will underperform even if you explicitly negotiate certain items with them beforehand and they agree to those terms. Bad girls are dishonest girls. The main advantage of Boates, Termas, and Go Go's is that customers have the opportunity to get to know a girl or girls thanks to the audition process, and again, the object should be to find the girls you have good rapport with and to weed out the ones that you don't. It also helps if you enjoy drinking and flirting with bar girls which I really do. For me it is all part of the evenings entertainment. Guys who want to cut this part out of the program most likely prefer Clinicas, Prives, and Oily massage parlors anyway. In those latter places the girls work for the house, so the reputation of the house is the implied guarantor of a good time, LOL.
Friday isn't dead but isn't on fire either. I'm too drunk to count so there could be anything from 50-150 girls here, lets say 100.
20-40 Redheads and blondes. Maximum of 8 are natural. Probably only 1-3 real reds. 5 tops have clear eyes verde or azul.
Maybe 5 Asians / japinhas.
2 straight up look like men.
And quite a few 40+.
I can't be blown away because after all I've been lurking for years.
You can probably only have 2 drinks before going over the cover. If you were here Friday Night 3/26 I was the tall bearded guy with a tiger shirt.
SamaRiding
03-26-22, 05:41
I went to Abbobora and was told by a local cost was 300 (room 100, girl gets 200). Card didn't work so I paid in cash they charged me 130 anyway? I'm not the kind of guy to argue with people when I'm a guest in their country though. About 10 girls presented themselves (one at a time) only about 4 were standouts. I chose a tall Morena named Moniqe with a huge bunda assuming she'd do anal. I chose wrong. Not bad just mediocre session and ID say she was 30-35. I regretted not choosing the young redhead. Later on after walking around too much I went back to 57 House where another seasoned expat informed me I should've never paid more than 280. Because of my limited purchase options (my CC only works maybe 30% of the time here) I'm going to be forced to begin triaging. I'm trying to stay in Brasil at least 30 days.Abbobora price increase.
I never had a clinica charge me more than a local. Some have reviewer discounts if you leave a review on gpguia. There is also a small credit card fee. I just checked the local forum and a recent review said "price has been readjusted now they are 330.00 cash, and 350.00 on the card" hopefully this will attract hotter girls there. I know this clinica is a favorite of some guys on the forum but I seldom session here.
Credit card.
Did you call your credit card company and let them know that you are in Brazil? That usually helps with card rejections.
...Card didn't work so I paid in cash they charged me 130 anyway?...I just checked gpguia and the last reviewer said the price has changed to 330 cash. That is about 20% increase from the last time I was there. I think next time you should clarify right away. At least you will clearly know what you are paying for, extra charge or not.
We obviously have two different approaches which is totally fine with me. Both ways work more or less. All I will say about why I prefer not to negotiate and lay it all out ahead of time is that I like the spontaneity as you rightly noted...I like club because negotiating service is more like a regular conversation. I tried that in the clinica but it felt odd so I stop doing it.
I like club because negotiating service is more like a regular conversation. I tried that in the clinica but it felt odd so I stop doing it.Yeah, I think "negotiation" is really too strong a word actually. Like I've said before, it's just a friendly conversation (at least it should be if you're doing it right). Where you casually ask the pretty girls how much to sperm in their teeth and fuck them up their butt holes. LOLOLOL! Imagine asking each pretty girl in a clinica lineup who approaches you such things. Talk about awkward! I've never done that at a clinica and have just taken my chances. Another reason why I prefer boates and termas over clinicas or any other brothel setup where you're supposed to choose from a lineup presented to you without the opportunity to interact with the girl before going to the room to do the nasty. I want an opportunity to see if there's any real chemistry between me and the girl and to know how much to fuck her in the ass, if she does that hahaha!
I would marry one if I am able to find one that I can "trust" and is the "right one". I would tell certain individuals that are close to me who I know who doesn't "prejudge". The majority of society if not all does prejudge about everything including people's profession, race, religion, appearance, and all of that stuff similar to how many of you prejudge if they have an education or not. Sometimes its better to say less. I have gone through endless years of higher education and I can tell you there are many people with professional degrees who I have way less respect than the girls and staff and the security guards at Scandallo.Learning emotional intelligence is part of most masters programs now weather it helps or not.
Society is different in BR since prostitution is legal so if you tell some people they will understand despite their educational level. Some girls in Scandallo are open to finding a rich* boyfriend or husband inside and many have gotten married. Weather it last or not is another thing. A lot of BR working girls have boyfriends or husbands and almost all have told their moms since most don't have a father around.
Just like pornstars how they have sex at work is different from at home some have told me.
I would marry one if I am able to find one that I can "trust" and is the "right one". I would tell certain individuals that are close to me who I know who doesn't "prejudge". The majority of society if not all does prejudge about everything including people's profession, race, religion, appearance, and all of that stuff similar to how many of you prejudge if they have an education or not. Sometimes its better to say less. I have gone through endless years of higher education and I can tell you there are many people with professional degrees who I have way less respect than the girls and staff and the security guards at Scandallo.Recently I had a hooker over to my place who I would rate physically as a 6. It was my first time with her. She was in her late twenties and obviously had a child or two (I did not ask her how many). After the deed we got to talking. She was into community gardening. I was amazed at her knowledge of growing vegetables. She was so enthusiastic talking about the topic that we spent almost as much time talking than we did having sex. Definitely someone worthy of respect.
Recently I had a hooker over to my place who I would rate physically as a 6. It was my first time with her. She was in her late twenties and obviously had a child or two (I did not ask her how many). After the deed we got to talking. She was into community gardening. I was amazed at her knowledge of growing vegetables. She was so enthusiastic talking about the topic that we spent almost as much time talking than we did having sex. Definitely someone worthy of respect.You never know what you're going to find out about somebody when you start relating to them and getting to know them as a full person, and not just as a sex object. That said, I still have no desire to marry a high volume prostitute. Come to think of it, I don't have a desire to marry anybody!
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I would marry one if I am able to find one that I can "trust" and is the "right one"...Thank you for the reply. It is a personal question but it does make one think about how one really feels about an issue.
Steve 9696
03-26-22, 20:22
Ran the Colombia, Argentina, Brazil trifecta. Here is the São Paulo part. Buenos Aires is in the Seeking Arrangements thread as I did only Seeking in BA. Colombia to follow.
So I finally had my first opportunity to get back to Brazil but it turned out nothing like I'the planned. I was in town for two nights and a full day with a late night flight the last day. The first two nights I figured were Scandallo and maybe I might hook a girl there interested in the afternoon of day 3.
Hit Scandallo just before prime time. Maybe 10:30. Prob about 100 girls at the time. Did the usual entry sign in and got a Jack and Coke. And hung out at the bar.
As expected the girl next to me struck up a conversation. We chatted a bit and I would say she was my type. A bit girl next door, and very pretty. But I had just gotten there and figured I should play the field. So I excused myself to roam.
I roamed around a bit and by after 11 it was hopping more. Maybe 150 girls and the band came on. A couple other girls chatted me up, one with excellent English and again doable for me but it was still early and I was enjoying the band and atmosphere.
I should note that while all 150 are pretty and I'the fuck any of them in a pinch, my "got to have it" taste is very narrow. Only saw a very few that I thought "I need to find her later".
After a while I thought I would wander out to the patio but it appeared closed. This turns out to be very wrong and only due to renovations. There are two major things changed in the layout since my 2019 visit:
First the patio is massively expanded and sports it's own bar. But it's not accessed near the elevators as before. That entrance was closed. Rather you go past the restrooms and continue straight and voila onto a massive new and beautiful outdoor setting. I discovered this quite late.
Second and maybe less important to some is the hallway with couches which used to separate the club from the dining area is gone. The dining area has taken it over. I liked this area for chatting away from the crush. And fond Andressa memories there. Oh well.
Anyhow at some point maybe around 12 I found the patio and was quickly engaged by a lady (not really a girl — she might have been 30+) who was quite chatty and flirty and generally nice to be with. Super slim great hair great face but large fake tits. Somehow they managed to look good on her anyhow.
Long story short. Great in public. A pro in the room. It's not that she was bad. It's just that it wasn't real. There was some kissing and a BBBJ but you could never mistake this for GFE. Mechanical. Too fast. Fake moaning. Again it wasn't horrible. All the trimmings were there without a lot of showstoppers. But for someone used to real GFE it just wasn't great. We got it done. I allowed myself to get hustled by a pro. Bad dog! (700 R+230 R room).
So I came out about 1 (maybe 30 minutes in room which is short but I was all about getting done and out). And wandered only a bit. The band was done or on break and vibe a shade less fun and me slightly bummed about my choice. But my balls were empty so I wasn't desperate for round 2. I'the also already seen 9 (other girls in Colombia and BA in the 6 days prior to this. So I thought I'the take a look elsewhere. (Scandallo club bill was 400 R incuding entry, two drinks for me, and a massive lady drink for her).
I decided to check out Lotus Club and man was that interesting. It was sad actually. The facilities at this club are AMAZING. Glitz and glam and lights and 40 foot ceilings, honestly better than Scandallo and. Wait for it. ONE girl. Yep. One. I decide to throw them a bone and sit down for a drink. There is one other guy drifting around, at least 10 waitstaff and Me.
I just sit and marvel and wonder wtf is wrong with this place and three more girls eventually show. Which of course is also pathetic having just come from Scandallo but All are at least vaguely pretty. The second one rather catches my eye with an amazing face if slightly hippy frame that I will later discover is all that. Firm not fat and a skinny waist in doggie to die for! - classic Brasileira.
She and I exchange a smile and a look or two but I'm doing the "don't send it to defcon three" and keep averting before locking eyes for too long. And the other girls all look doable after a couple drinks if not quite my type.
I decide I am going to go to each of the four girls in succession and just introduce myself and get her name in Portuguese and then say I want to talk to each girl. I do this with girl 1 (they are lined up about 15 feet apart) and I could def get with her. Nothing wrong. A bit GND. But excuse myself to move down the line.
Then onto girl 2 fully intending to hit up girls 3 and 4. But number 2 and I lock eyes and Alert Alert DEFCON 3! Full on DEFCON 3! This is not a drill!
It was honestly kinda amazing. Like instant mutual chemistry. And powerful. Her teeth are sorta odd with bunny teeth and a dual yaeba (look it up) but somehow amazing. When she smiles, she smiles with both her mouth and her eyes I am totally melted into goo.
So we chat a bit, some mutual touching and it's time for "quanto custa". She says 1000 which of course is way too high for this venue and time. I feel a little bad saying 500 but she's the one that started high not me. I think she's about to cave and a little sad so I type 600 and she readily agrees.
And off we go to my hotel (Lotus does not have onsite rooms which is a significant downside). In the room the passion is undeniable. I def should have written it down because I can't recall all the details of the first night. I remember wet and wild DATY and you could feel how real it was. When she was finally done she pulls me up face to face and starts eating me alive. You could just tell I'the released the hounds!
Her BJ is quite excellent with plenty of under the hood action. And we finish with BLS HJ which has become unfortunately the norm I've been fucking so much. But I will soon redeem myself.
The visit from here turns into a much more Seeking Arrangement relationship with full BFGF the next couple days (although I have to work and she has kids to manage). She leaves around 3 AM this first night.
Next night we meet for the most amazing Italian. It's one of those super fancy places with more waiters than diners and guys constantly pouring wine. Chafing dishes to make your pasta table side. The real deal and the food is amazing. She is soooo enjoying being treated like a princess and it warms my heart doing so.
We walk home from dinner about. 75 miles and all uphill! But we make it and grab some drinks and continue the party in the room. It is an amazing time but in the end we have to call it because I'm too drunk to get off a shot. But not for lack of trying. What a trooper.
Next day we have lunch together. Again very good. And that afternoon some really epic sex where I get to finish what I started. Urgent passionate kissing in mish and her pussy sloppy AF. I am pounding hard and fast (unusual for me) and wow. Cum hard in mish. Love that!
Afterwards we do some shopping and she's pretty low maintenance. We get some nice Easter chocolates for her girls but don't find much else of interest. Eat at the food court. LOL. But it's just BFGF and it totally works!
I know it's going to seem crazy to so many of you that with Scandallo in easy reach I would spend my three days with a mother of two. But yeah I did. I've been doing Seeking Arrangement so much that an hour of fucking is pretty far down on the list of things I'm looking for. Yea I want that hour or more. But I also want the full GFE. Someone whose eyes shine when they look at me like they adore me. Someone to walk hand and hand with and find somewhere special together.
And fuck there is absolutely such a thing as chemistry. I can objectively say that my home girl Shayla, Kerry (who I spent GFE time with in Colombia) and Maria (above) are not the prettiest girls I've been with (tho all are pretty and damn good in bed). But there is something extra. That smile that rocks your world. The way she looks at you. It's just a palpable thing. So yeah. Maria was totally worth skipping Scandallo. YMMV. 😋.
And strangely, after 11 new women this past week (ish) it makes me appreciate my home girl more. Yes lots of great sex abroad. A few spectacular looking women. And two real gems that I spent more than a night with. But my home girl Shayla still rocks my world. Life is good.
Anyone has preference clinicas in Jardins. All the clinicas I go to are in Moema, however, this time I am staying in Jardins and wanted to know of any recommended ones I can potentially walk too.
Thanks guys!
Guys,
Last night I did a Triple banger. Took 3 girls from Scandallo, paid cover to get them out, and we all went over to Lush motel. Had one giving me BBBJ, another eating my a-hole, and the 3rd one passionately kissing me GFE, passionately. Was only able to cum off twice. Love the rooms, had mirrors everywhere. Two of them gave me a strip pole routine, and the 3rd GFE was rubbing me down and stroking me. Then we all jumped into the pool and two of them started kissing each other, wonderful time. Much more relax environment then being in the Scandallo rooms. Just a heads up.
UniversalX
03-27-22, 01:57
I decided to check out Lotus Club and man was that interesting. It was sad actually. The facilities at this club are AMAZING. Glitz and glam and lights and 40 foot ceilings, honestly better than Scandallo and. Wait for it. ONE girl. Yep. One. I decide to throw them a bone and sit down for a drink. There is one other guy drifting around, at least 10 waitstaff and Me. I just sit and marvel and wonder wtf is wrong with this place and three more girls eventually show. Which of course is also pathetic having just come from Scandallo but All are at least vaguely pretty.........
Yea I want that hour or more. But I also want the full GFE. Someone whose eyes shine when they look at me like they adore me. Someone to walk hand and hand with and find somewhere special together. And fuck there is absolutely such a thing as chemistry.https://lotusclub.com.br/home/
I can't understand why such a nice club is unable to recruit more girls? I know Scandallo has reputation for large selection, but they can't have the monopoly on it. It would have been nice if you asked the management why so few girls? (wonder if club charging girls too much)
On the GFE front nice to see you got someone you enjoyed being with and spent quality time with.
Elvis 2008
03-27-22, 06:37
I have gone through endless years of higher education and I can tell you there are many people with professional degrees who I have way less respect than the girls and staff and the security guards at Scandallo.I agree 1000%.
I would marry one if I am able to find one that I can "trust" and is the "right one". I would tell certain individuals that are close to me who I know who doesn't "prejudge". The majority of society if not all does prejudge about everything including people's profession, race, religion, appearance, and all of that stuff similar to how many of you prejudge if they have an education or not. Sometimes its better to say less.I have tried explaining this on other forums, and I will give it my best shot here. When I was in Brazil, I was amazed at how many WGs were normal. What I mean is that once you got to know them and they liked you, they did not ask for more money. Not all of them, but the classier ones with whom I had chemistry that was the case.
With American woman and sugar babies and hookers and strippers, forget anything serious. They look at men like ATMs, and it is never enough, but I learned if I paid them and was straight with them about my seeing other women, the American would perform really well, and I was pretty happy doing that. I then moved to the Latin cultures with the same MO, and the women were better and cheaper.
I had two women in my life telling me that I would find a woman who I thought was so special I would just want to see them. I thought they were fucking crazy, but it planted a seed. You see I think most mongers have stress in their lives that they do not like to talk about. They would like to have one woman, but they have not found a woman who was special enough for them to give up their monogamy. Society says, "Oh, you are fucking that woman. You have to be monogamous", and they feel the shame of seeing multiple women.
Some guys here are such feminist types they objected to the phrase "earning monogamy" but I think it is a worthwhile exercise. What would it take for you to be loyal to one woman? If you can answer that question, your straying is not the problem, the women just are not good enough.
With me, she had to be so hot I would not look at someone else, intelligent, honest, trustworthy, the sex had to be so good that I would not want to stray, not a whiner who would bring me down, not emasculate me and in general be a sweet supportive person. In short, I wanted a 10 in looks, a 10 in bed, who is an angel. Good like finding that right? The irony is that I did, and I almost passed her up because I thought she was too good to be true.
That is the funny part. You actually visualize what you want, and the universe has a weird way of giving it to you.
The transition for mongers is tough. You have to give up the idea of being ripped off and change gears such that you want to support a woman. The air fares and hotels make it so that it is not cheap but there is a lot less wasted money.
My gal is in Colombia, and I am glad because it is closer but I was talking to some amazing Brazilian women. I was all set to go down there and this woman screwed it up. LOL.
With me, I have a built in reason to not marry her for a few years, but I have to say that what I hope is that the habits she forms in our relationship stays the same such that if we do get married, nothing changes. Because if they do, I am out, and I will go back to being how I was before.
Steve 9696
03-27-22, 13:29
Having experienced Colombia, Argentina, and Brazil, here is the summary of my dates and thoughts on the venues. Of course the summary is: if you have the coin you can get awesome girls in any of the three countries -- so long as you pick the right format for that country.
Medellin -- Primarily Facebook and Referrals.
Bella and Alejandra Duo -- Picked up at a local small club, these girls were four hours of fun and partying. The sex was just altogether OK, but having a more senior girl help coach up her younger protege on the finer points of BJ was fun. But mostly just tons of rum shots and tussi (them not me) and grinding and dancing and just having fun.
Julia -- Referral from a friend this girl is fresh and cute and built and bubbly and has the finest pussy to finger on planet earth. Her BJ is lame, but she's a nice girl and I would have repeated if I had the time.
Karen. Damn this girl has an amazing face (and good bod). She wears lots of makeup but it's working because I could look at her all day. A bit bizness-like in the bedroom, but damn she's fine. Came in Mish, which doesn't happen so often, but looking at that face. Whoa.
Kerry. Referral from a friend. Had dinner together and we just clicked chemically from the get go and I couldn't get enough. Her smile and laugh will melt you. We had amazing foreplay in the jacuzzi and the sex was just so passionate. Went touristing the next day and she helped guide me by the hand through the worst part of El Centro. Several quite nasty blocks of piss and fish smell and yikes. Plaza Botero itself is nice and feels like any city. Had an amazing pasta lunch, more amazing sex (damn the way she looks in my eyes slays me) and a mega afternoon spoon nap. I would def repeat with this girl.
Vennie Spinner. I don't even remember her name. Grabbed outside of Park Lleras. Seems so innocent but quite the little shark. Ended up haggling over condom for BJ, and other things. Basically some pretty darn good sex and a lot of arguing. Super amazing be cups on the tiniest frame you can imagine. Only bad experience in Medellin (and not completely awful on balance. She was lots of fun when we weren't arguing LOL).
Andrea. Believe another poster mentioned her. I am not usually one for sharing girls names, but if you care to dig she is a real gem. Tattooed head to toe, so if you don't like that, definite non-starter. I think they are super bad ass. And she's got a very solid woman's build -- think her ass is fake actually. So if you want a flaca look elsewhere. But if you want one of the top BJs on planet earth she's your gal. And she's sweet and passionate also. I took the upcharge and blasted twice inside 40 minutes -- and that after all the girls above in just two days. So I think that speaks to her BJ prowess.
Buenos Aries -- Seeking Arrangements Only.
Lucia. Wow this girl looks amazing. A 10 face no lie. A 9 body. Perfect English, fun to be with at dinner and walking. Just a great date. Sex pretty darn mediocre. I'd still see her again just to have that doll out with me.
Melia. We were in close chat for several weeks, but I semi-ghosted her 2 weeks out as I settled on other girls. Failed second date with Lucia (she contacted me later but it was too late) and Meli came through with 4 hours notice! Great fun date despite the language barrier. Amazing sex including swap to BBFS midway. Totally would repeat.
Sao Paulo -- Clubs.
Natalie. Scandallo. Scandallo remains amazing, but Natalie too pro for my taste. Rushed and fake. Made a mistake taking her. Guess it goes to show, the experience only works if you follow the rules. I broke several and paid the price. Still managed to squirt one out, but def not the highlight of my trip.
Maria. Damn, another keeper like Kerry. Found her at Lotus -- only four girls there, but I guess you only need one, because chemistry was off the charts from the first minute. We basically wifed up for the next two days. Amazing dinner, walks, drinks, sex. Really the whole GFE package from top to bottom.
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So what's my take on the three countries? This is all just my opinion based on quite a limited sample. YMMV.
I still think Brazil is number one if you like the face to face club scene and lots of options. Scandallo remains more pretty girls per square meter than anywhere on the planet. In comparison La Isla was distinctly lame with plastic girls and inflated prices.
Argentina is only worth a visit if you know how to navigate the Seeking Arrangements scene and enjoy the whole date experience. Top shelf girls if this is your thing and Buenos Aires is a lovely city. Very European. The Italian at Marcelo and walk after in Puerto Madero is worth the trip.
I was surprised how short and lame the BJs were in Colombia (with exception of Andrea). I found the Romanian pro girls in London and the amateur Seeking girls in the US to be decidedly better. Not sure why but it was noticeable and stood out to me.
You can find amazing real life GFE wherever you go. But it takes a bit of luck and numbers. Out of 11 girls across the three countries I found 2 girls I was happy to wife up with and another 2 who gave the in bedroom GFE we all seek. Another 5 that I was happy to have spent time with and only 2 I wished I hadn't.
Argentina is only worth a visit if you know how to navigate the Seeking Arrangements scene and enjoy the whole date experience. Top shelf girls if this is your thing and Buenos Aires is a lovely city. Very European. The Italian at Marcelo and walk after in Puerto Madero is worth the trip.Too bad about Argentina. It used to be very good for the face-to-face club scene. But then I heard they closed all of the puta palaces down. Well, I'm certain you can still get a good piece of steak there face-to-face, if not a piece of ass haha!
JohnnyWalker55
03-27-22, 22:51
Sorry if it's a repetitive question, but upon searching the forums the only prive scene I've found is in Santana, been there, the talent is okay but damn it's far all the way north in bumfuck nowhere.
Any neighborhoods besides Santana where there are cheap prives grouped together like the ones in Rio? (50-100 reais).
I saw the clinica scene in moema but those all seem to be around 200-300 reais per session. Coming from Colombia, I'm a cheap charlie for sp.
Thanks for your time.
Jw.
Can anyone recommend a place that has facilities similar if not equal or superior to Asturias? Inquiring minds want to know.
Cheers.
To answer your question re Jardins, my first exposure and many of them were at Tangara 200. It still has a special place in my heart because several of my best experiences were taking girls from there to my hotel for the night. I went there last Saturday and was not disappointed.
I met My current best lover at Chanes. I don't know if it is still open. There are many in Jardins, Vanis Way etc. If you want you can PM me.
Anyone has preference clinicas in Jardins. All the clinicas I go to are in Moema, however, this time I am staying in Jardins and wanted to know of any recommended ones I can potentially walk too.
Thanks guys!
I just stayed three nights at the Double Tree. It was the cheapest points close to the action. I never got to the action because of my favorites. Anyway, the hotel is not as nice as the Renaissance or even the Marriott Executive Apartments but is in a party central. Bars were packed up and down the street with wonderful eye candy all Friday and Sunday night. Also I had no problem bringing two different girls in.
FYI. The street gets jammed on Friday and Saturday nights so give yourself plenty of time to get there and don't plan to be able to do any in and out trips quickly.
Not all things of course went according to plan, alas I only had 4 because Milan at Bomboa gave me a fire to put out. Emergency is over and I can recommend Sirio Augusta private hospital. Options were limited on a Saturday evening and at least I got to see a doctor unlike American hospitals. So I had a weekend of rest forced upon me. I am giving consideration now to getting travel insurance because this is not the first time the sword cut its sheeth.
I'm off to Curitiba next, even the locals' forum is kinda dead but I needed a cheaper place to finish the month out, there its mostly Prives and GPS. I am hesitant to say this but, at 57 Friends House I went to a 2nd time Friday afternoon where another American was present. An Asian guy who seems to be a regular and fluent in Porto. Don't bother speaking to him, he gets very passive aggressive to the extent I just decided to leave before he ruined my already stressful day.
Also on Scandallo, even my shitty Visa works there (for cover) and to add to my report there was no more than 3 negras but around 7 short haired garotas in case you like that. It is worth going just to see it but I recommend going before 7. Maybe Friday was actually slow but I barely saw any 9's, I'd say if you averaged the looks out it would be 7.5 Everyman has his own 10.
Too bad about Argentina. It used to be very good for the face-to-face club scene. But then I heard they closed all of the puta palaces down. Well, I'm certain you can still get a good piece of steak there face-to-face, if not a piece of ass haha!There are still clubs left, just not good and overpriced. Based on that, I think they did not closed all puta places. Those places were closed because they gave the government a reason to. I think it maybe ok to have clubs like Scandallo but not 4x4.
I also guess that the club scene probably was already going downhill quality wise and overpriced by that point.
You saw the 7 short haired garotas on Friday?
Also on Scandallo, even my shitty Visa works there (for cover) and to add to my report there was no more than 3 negras but around 7 short haired garotas in case you like that. It is worth going just to see it but I recommend going before 7. Maybe Friday was actually slow but I barely saw any 9's, I'd say if you averaged the looks out it would be 7.5 Everyman has his own 10.
Steve 9696
03-28-22, 12:55
Not all things of course went according to plan, Also on Scandallo, even my shitty Visa works there (for cover) and to add to my report there was no more than 3 negras but around 7 short haired garotas in case you like that. It is worth going just to see it but I recommend going before 7. Maybe Friday was actually slow but I barely saw any 9's, I'd say if you averaged the looks out it would be 7.5 Everyman has his own 10.I certainly agree with your quality assessment. It's not loaded with nines. I would generally say more 7+ girls on offer per square meter than any other place on planet earth. I am completely confident in that statement. Why are you saying arrive before 7 though? Yes cover is cheaper but it's surely not the same. It doesn't really "start" in terms of lots of girls till after ten and there was a palpable difference between 10:30 and 11:30 even. I recommend a post 10 Pm arrival.
Steve 9696
03-28-22, 13:01
There are still clubs left, just not good and overpriced. Based on that, I think they did not closed all puta places. Those places were closed because they gave the government a reason to. I think it maybe ok to have clubs like Scandallo but not 4x4.
I also guess that the club scene probably was already going downhill quality wise and overpriced by that point.The lack of good P4 P scene makes for a great Seeking Arrangements scene on the flip side. If you like to wine and dine them (I do) and walk hand in hand and all that GF stuff it's a good spot (knowing many of you don't care for that). Getting an 8 with firm DDs and bareback and a 9. 5 fluent English speaker in two dates in two days with a list of 5-6 others I coulda booked seems quite wonderful to me. And def Buenos Aires is unlike many South American cities. You could easily think you are in Europe.
Too bad about Argentina. It used to be very good for the face-to-face club scene. But then I heard they closed all of the puta palaces down. Well, I'm certain you can still get a good piece of steak there face-to-face, if not a piece of ass haha!Madaho's was great, but Cocodrilo was my favorite. It was like Casarao in SP. I spent many months in BA between 2005-2009.
Madaho's was great, but Cocodrilo was my favorite. It was like Casarao in SP. I spent many months in BA between 2005-2009.I really liked Hook and Catto which were close to each other. Occasionally you could find some amazing surprises there.
You saw the 7 short haired garotas on Friday?Yes, but only one had a classic Pixie cut and none were nock outs. I'm meeting a personal 10 in Ctiba this week.
I certainly agree with your quality assessment. It's not loaded with nines. I would generally say more 7+ girls on offer per square meter than any other place on planet earth. I am completely confident in that statement. Why are you saying arrive before 7 though? Yes cover is cheaper but it's surely not the same. It doesn't really "start" in terms of lots of girls till after ten and there was a palpable difference between 10:30 and 11:30 even. I recommend a post 10 Pm arrival.I only recommend it purely for the cover. I was there Friday night 2230 - 130. I did notice an influx of local men there after 12 am. There was a lily white ruiva with blue eyes pealed to a regular at the bar entire time.
I will say though I prefer boates over clinicas. I get as much pleasure out of observing and making my choice as I do the deed itself. Most clinicas to my understanding show only 1 girl at a time. What I really want is the FKK / showhouse experience but Europe is effectively dead now. So maybe the Rio termas is the closest thing left? A den of naked women to choose from.
Yes, but only one had a classic Pixie cut and none were nock outs. I'm meeting a personal 10 in Ctiba this week.The last real knockout I met at Scandallo was from Curitiba. Name was Sarah, and she had a blue-eyed, blonde, German look. Maybe because that's where her people arrived to Brazil from, Germany.
Steve 9696
03-28-22, 17:29
Yes, but only one had a classic Pixie cut and none were nock outs. I'm meeting a personal 10 in Ctiba this week.
I only recommend it purely for the cover. I was there Friday night 2230 - 130. I did notice an influx of local men there after 12 am. There was a lily white ruiva with blue eyes pealed to a regular at the bar entire time.
I will say though I prefer boates over clinicas. I get as much pleasure out of observing and making my choice as I do the deed itself. Most clinicas to my understanding show only 1 girl at a time. What I really want is the FKK / showhouse experience but Europe is effectively dead now. So maybe the Rio termas is the closest thing left? A den of naked women to choose from.It's a long haul and out in the countryside but maybe the pool party at Fazendinha would float your boat. Gone Fishing just got back and he wrote it up in the Campinas thread. Definitely requires some adventurous spirit and the girls are in bikinis not nude but that same nearly naked girl buffet experience that many of us love.
... but Cocodrilo was my favorite. ...I think this one is in front of the cemetery. It is still open.
The lack of good P4 P scene makes for a great Seeking Arrangements scene on the flip side. If you like to wine and dine them (I do) and walk hand in hand and all that GF stuff it's a good spot (knowing many of you don't care for that). Getting an 8 with firm DDs and bareback and a 9. 5 fluent English speaker in two dates in two days with a list of 5-6 others I coulda booked seems quite wonderful to me. And def Buenos Aires is unlike many South American cities. You could easily think you are in Europe.Could you tell me how long are the girls you dated on seeking on average? I usually only look at new ones that just register recently.
Steve 9696
03-28-22, 18:44
Could you tell me how long are the girls you dated on seeking on average? I usually only look at new ones that just register recently.I don't pay too close attention other than if it's obvious she's been on a few years I avoid. But most probably a few months. Up to a year. But it's never a sure thing because some girls go off and come on with new profiles. Anyhow the texting tells the story.
I search 22-24 year old latinas as first filter. And only expand past that if I can't find one. I filter out curvy girls in US because that just means fat. But elsewhere it means built and you don't want to filter them.
I think this one is in front of the cemetery. It is still open.New Port is in front of the Cemetery. Cocodrilo is in Calle Gallo, between Cordoba and Santa Fe. They ruined it when they opened the restaurant downstairs.
New Port is in front of the Cemetery. Cocodrilo is in Calle Gallo, between Cordoba and Santa Fe. They ruined it when they opened the restaurant downstairs.I messed up. There was another one that is not new port is by the cemetery. The Cocodrilo has an outdoor patio on the third floor. Many girls were asking US $200, some less.
New Port is in front of the Cemetery. Cocodrilo is in Calle Gallo, between Cordoba and Santa Fe. They ruined it when they opened the restaurant downstairs.New Port is gone. It's a restaurant now.
There's a place called Delirios nearby tho. I've had fun there. Kinda upscale.
To my knowledge it's the only nighttime gig in town.
Another fun, fun, fun week in Sampa:
Cheers.
...There's a place called Delirios nearby tho. I've had fun there. Kinda upscale...I think that is the other place by the cemetery. The girls are better looking and the price is also higher.
Some members are having a Buenos Aires discussion within this thread. That's cool. I'm all for spontaneous conversation.
I would just suggest referencing Buenos Aires in posts here so everyone knows where and what we're discussing.
Did anyone staid at the quite new Hilton Garden Inn yet? Is it guest friendly?
HarvestBoi
03-29-22, 23:42
IIRC the original board was Argentina Private, ISG was a knock on from that. AP was started by Jackson and centered on BsAs during the Black / Madahos / Triangle golden era, just after the coralito when everything was very cheap. I caught the end of that scene and it was very cool. Even met Jackson. AP is pretty moribund now, although I go over there every few months to see if anything's changed. We should ask the mods to start an Argentine ISG forum. It's a hassle having a separate login for AP. Plus Argentina never comes up on the ISG front page so I forget about it.
Some noises being made about a new club opening up in BsAs.
Why do some world class cities have such lame mongering scenes (e. G. Paris)? Why do some cities which used to have great scenes now suck (BsAs). That's why I say enjoy having a place like Scandallos, because it could disappear or be driven underground overnight.
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Some members are having a Buenos Aires discussion within this thread. That's cool. I'm all for spontaneous conversation.
I would just suggest referencing Buenos Aires in posts here so everyone knows where and what we're discussing..
Some noises being made about a new club opening up in BsAs.
Why do some world class cities have such lame mongering scenes (e. G. Paris)? Why do some cities which used to have great scenes now suck (BsAs). That's why I say enjoy having a place like Scandallos, because it could disappear or be driven underground overnight.I've had some debates with members about the machinations of "legal" Brazilian prostitution. I think the bottom-line is all venues in all parts of the world operate within the whims and tolerance of the local government and their law enforcement. A determined city can shutter any mongering establishment regardless of the law.
Romp in SP this weekend any else?
List out your top 2 or 3 in Jardins. I'm sure other members would like to know too. Thanks!
To answer your question re Jardins, my first exposure and many of them were at Tangara 200. It still has a special place in my heart because several of my best experiences were taking girls from there to my hotel for the night. I went there last Saturday and was not disappointed.
I met My current best lover at Chanes. I don't know if it is still open. There are many in Jardins, Vanis Way etc. If you want you can PM me.
I Stopped in Tangara today. Was there for a short time in the afternoon. There were several pretty girls there. A regular that has kept in contact with me since 2018 is coming tonight so I did not session. It appears they have changed their practice a bit. Several men came in and soon a girl would come in with a trowel ready to go to the room with them. My guess is they called in ahead of time and scheduled with the specific girl. I don't remember that happening much pre covid. I would have taken a session with a couple of them but as I was getting ready to request them someone came in and took them.
Vagabundo1
04-02-22, 00:54
Tangera Forista Discount.
Tangera is great! I need to pay a visit again. ABC gave many of us ISGers tours of that and other clinicas.
Does the place still discount for mongers who post reviews on GPGuia?
I Stopped in Tangara today. Was there for a short time in the afternoon. There were several pretty girls there. A regular that has kept in contact with me since 2018 is coming tonight so I did not session. It appears they have changed their practice a bit. Several men came in and soon a girl would come in with a trowel ready to go to the room with them. My guess is they called in ahead of time and scheduled with the specific girl. I don't remember that happening much pre covid. I would have taken a session with a couple of them but as I was getting ready to request them someone came in and took them.
SamaRiding
04-02-22, 01:39
I Stopped in Tangara today. Was there for a short time in the afternoon. There were several pretty girls there. A regular that has kept in contact with me since 2018 is coming tonight so I did not session. It appears they have changed their practice a bit. Several men came in and soon a girl would come in with a trowel ready to go to the room with them. My guess is they called in ahead of time and scheduled with the specific girl. I don't remember that happening much pre covid. I would have taken a session with a couple of them but as I was getting ready to request them someone came in and took them.In all clinicas, you can WhatsApp or call ahead and schedule a girl. I have been doing that more often once I knew more girls, especially the most popular ones. Lots of locals do this.
Tangara is a zoo. Lots of guys coming in and out or just hanging out in the courtyard. They usually list a daily roster of 30 girls or more but I only see small portion of the lineup at a time. I guess the rest of the girls are busy in rooms.
... It appears they have changed their practice a bit. Several men came in and soon a girl would come in with a trowel ready to go to the room with them. My guess is they called in ahead of time and scheduled with the specific girl. ...I did it with WhatsApp but sometimes they will ignore the messages. Occasionally they are some better looking girls and I have to make appointment to get my turn. Some just come to work for a few days then gone until next time.
...Does the place still discount for mongers who post reviews on GPGuia?I don't think there is a discount. It's already cheap.
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