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I owe my enjoyment of Sao Paulo and really Brasil to ABC. I was thinking of him driving me to several of the houses today and how he would have the girls sit with us and talk for awhile not just walk in say tudo bem then walk out. Good times!
Tangera Forista Discount.
Tangera is great! I need to pay a visit again. ABC gave many of us ISGers tours of that and other clinicas.
Does the place still discount for mongers who post reviews on GPGuia?
Jimmy Boy 99
04-02-22, 14:49
Check your PMs. Sent you one.
I owe my enjoyment of Sao Paulo and really Brasil to ABC. I was thinking of him driving me to several of the houses today and how he would have the girls sit with us and talk for awhile not just walk in say tudo bem then walk out. Good times!ABG (Alto Bom Gosto) was the local guy who took guys around Sao Paulo clinicas and other venues a few years back.
ABG (Alto Bom Gosto) was the local guy who took guys around Sao Paulo clinicas and other venues a few years back.I have had the same experience with ABG. But my understanding is he passed away couple of years ago. (RIP. May his soul rest in peace). Isn't that true. Or am I missing something.
I have had the same experience with ABG. But my understanding is he passed away couple of years ago. (RIP. May his soul rest in peace). Isn't that true. Or am I missing something.Rovnak posted this awhile back:
"The last few years he had some health issues. He passed away in early 2020 unrelated to covid."
Vagabundo1
04-03-22, 16:43
ABG was a good man.
I have had the same experience with ABG. But my understanding is he passed away couple of years ago. (RIP. May his soul rest in peace). Isn't that true. Or am I missing something.
ABG (Alto Bom Gosto) was the local guy who took guys around Sao Paulo clinicas and other venues a few years back.My only experience in Sao Paulo was with ABG and he took me to a couple clinicas and I really enjoyed myself.
He was a very nice man and a great into into the scene. They all knew him and yes the owner / manager would talk to him and the girls knew him very well too.
Stinky Squid
04-03-22, 18:56
I did it with WhatsApp but sometimes they will ignore the messages. Occasionally they are some better looking girls and I have to make appointment to get my turn. Some just come to work for a few days then gone until next time.
I don't think there is a discount. It's already cheap.This talk about 30 girls in Tangara and it being like a Zoo and also "already cheap" had perking my ears up. I hardly ever go to such clubs because I prefer choosing girls over photoacompanhante and exchanging some WhatsApp, and generally I find the total cost of these clubs with entrance fees, overpriced drinks, etc. Not worth it. But I should probably go sometime and if that one is recommended then perhaps.
But what is the procedure and price? Entrance? Girls only for short time hump and go, or how is it?
Stinky Squid
04-03-22, 19:14
Sorry if it's a repetitive question, but upon searching the forums the only prive scene I've found is in Santana, been there, the talent is okay but damn it's far all the way north in bumfuck nowhere.
Any neighborhoods besides Santana where there are cheap prives grouped together like the ones in Rio? (50-100 reais).
I saw the clinica scene in moema but those all seem to be around 200-300 reais per session. Coming from Colombia, I'm a cheap charlie for sp.
Thanks for your time.
I don't know if Rua Alvaro de Carvalho, 107 fits your description. This is a building with apartments very central Bela Vista area, you can just go in, and there are several apartments, one one the 4th floor anyway is action but I suppose all of them are. I usually don't go to such place where I don't have an appointment with a specific girl, but I was there once to learn that you never make appointments with specific girls, it's just you talk to the boss whatever, and then someone comes to attend you. In my case, I liked the girl who came, very small, I like them around 1. 50 cm (I sometimes search on photoacompanhante for the smallest number I can find, and thus found a really sweet and hot baby who I kind'a adopted even.) Anyway, so that small but super curvy girl came and attended me. Negotiating the extras it became clear that they are shelling out half of the money to the boss, so any extras should be paid in cash. I think the regular 1 hour was priced at R$ 100, so you know she just gets R$ 50. Negotiate the BBBJ+CIM for R$ 50 and you have something that seems overall really fair. I think you can just go there, walk up and ask who's there. That may be better than just only relying on your luck with who will be allotted to you.
But then, I don't know if that is what you mean. I am curious about Santana, which places you have been (address? I have marked two in my map, Rua Dr. Cesar, 209, and the other one is Rua Henrique Bernardelli, 119. I got those addresses from photoacompanhantes replying on my WhatsApp. There were some really interesting ads, but I don't know how real they are. Are those the places you mean in Santana? And do you just walk in and get a line-up or something?
Stinky Squid
04-03-22, 19:24
I find that there are some interesting offers in Tatuape on Photoacompanhantes, and they are more often than not real. I had a dupla booked there. And I quite enjoyed that, even though as it usually is, the second one is a bit past the age I'm usually looking for. I came with the kinds of stuff I wanted them to wear to be really pretty for me, and they absolutely loved it. They took photos of themselves working me but made sure none of our faces was to be seen. While the older of the two (30 and a bit) was BBBJ working my dick the other was giving me a lot of pleasure with her mouth in my face. And when I came they started playing with my cum a bit more taking fotos. It was really pleasant. Both in good spirits.
Now what was NOT pleasant was the stupid motel. They actually wanted to charge me TWICE the price just because I had two girls in my room. This sucked, completely ridiculous. It's also a very busy place, so you actually have to wait in line for substantial amount of time even to check out. So, I will go back to Tatuape but will avoid Messalina.
This talk about 30 girls in Tangara and it being like a Zoo and also "already cheap" had perking my ears up. I hardly ever go to such clubs because I prefer choosing girls over photoacompanhante and exchanging some WhatsApp, and generally I find the total cost of these clubs with entrance fees, overpriced drinks, etc. Not worth it. But I should probably go sometime and if that one is recommended then perhaps.
But what is the procedure and price? Entrance? Girls only for short time hump and go, or how is it?There are no entrance fees and they may sell drinks but not in the main lobby. You go in the main lobby and sit down. They call the available girls in and they come to you one by one and tell you their name and hug you and a kiss on the cheek. Then you tell the manager which one you want and you go with her to the room. You can ask for 1/2 or 1 hour. My last hour on a credit card came out to 200 reai. And it was worth it! She will probably want you to shower before and she will also.
I have been to Panda in Rio. Many trips to Scandollo and Tangara etc. , have a trip coming up mid April. 3 friends are going. Creating some list of girls from Seeking. Boy they all want $1000 (USD). Literally I had to shut them out. Just painful. Lots of my old contacts from pre-covid are no more in the scene, got married, left SP, numbers changed. So struggling. With a hope that I will be able to get some action from Scandaloo?
What other places are as good as Scandallo. (don't like the option of taking the girl to the hotel). Like the Solarium, 4 x 4, Montecarlo, (Rio) and Scandallo type of place. Drink, sit around, fall in love, go upstairs, come back rinse and repeat. Haha.
The main question.
This time, we are thinking of getting 5-6 girls for 3 guys, get a nice Motel with pool / jacuzzi inside the room and party for 3-6 hours. (Presidential suite in Panda). What will be good Motel suggestions for a good Luxury party.
And Brazilian women! And Brazilian generic Cialis! Getting ready to drive to GRU for my flight home. Had to send my friend home. She made me promise to keep in touch. After practicing Portuguese and English and having breakfast I asked if she would like to make love before she had to leave. Of Course! She said. We had already made love last night and earlier this morning. Darn good for an old man and really surprised me she could make me come three times.
I met her at a clinic in 2018 and we have kept in touch even though I was not able to come to Brasil since then until last week. She quit clinic work shortly after we met and I don't think she does anything like it any more.
So three weekends, full nights with girls I met in 2018 and one nice new session at Tangara. Wow! Wish I lived here like Vagabundo1. I do bow to his expertise and especially his 900 per week girl friend. Kudos!
So Tchau but I will return!
This talk about 30 girls in Tangara and it being like a Zoo and also "already cheap" had perking my ears up..?It was about 120 for 30 minutes and 180 for an hour when I was there last year. I think there maybe a 15 minutes option too but I never confirm that. In addition to WW's post, you can hang around in the court yard, or bar in the basement patio to chat with the girls. The girls will hang around outside frequently to smoke or whatever. You can also just walk to the large room where all girls are to talk or choose. The receptionists are the most friendly among all clinicas that I have been too.
The price also reflect the room condition but it is relatively clean. There is shower but no toilet.
One major benefit for me is that I don't have to wait for girls because there are more. It seems that I always need to wait for someone at Prime.
This time, we are thinking of getting 5-6 girls for 3 guys, get a nice Motel with pool / jacuzzi inside the room and party for 3-6 hours. (Presidential suite in Panda). What will be good Motel suggestions for a good Luxury party.Pick your pleasure.
https://lushmotel.com.br/?lang=en
https://www.asturiasmotel.com.br/
The Dollar / Real currency exchange has dropped +20%. This page has been quiet lately now. LOL.
Gigi Buffon
04-05-22, 17:38
The Dollar / Real currency exchange has dropped +20%. This page has been quiet lately now. LOL.You can also claim that the BRL has appreciated 32% in the past 18 months and during that journey the forum was quite active, considering everything that was happening in the world. There will be people sensitive to the F / X movement, especially those that spent significant time in Brazil, but for people just traveling for 1-3 weeks, I do not think it will make too much difference. IMHO.
HarvestBoi
04-05-22, 20:12
Strange question: has anybody ever tried to stay overnight in one of these love motels or used it like a normal hotel?
Pick your pleasure.
https://lushmotel.com.br/?lang=en
https://www.asturiasmotel.com.br/
Vagabundo1
04-05-22, 23:25
Yep.
Oh yea.
I like love story in central SP.
But I have done so at motel Malaga and motels in Rio like. Oh, what was that one in largo do Machado.
It works great.
You just have to get the pernoite check in times down.
Strange question: has anybody ever tried to stay overnight in one of these love motels or used it like a normal hotel?
Hi,
Longtime reader and first time poster. Thank you to all the contributors for the really helpful information shared.
I'm headed to SP later in the month and will be there over a weekend. On past trips I've been to Scandallo and Bomboa and then to lush or overnight at the renaissance. This will be my first time in SP over a weekend and based on the posts seems like these may be very slow or even closed. Any suggestions for alternatives to find companion options for overnights or to collect numbers for the days the clubs will be closed?
TomJohnSt2000
04-06-22, 22:24
Hello fellow mongers,
I am headed to Brazil next week and am currently trying to make reservations with some girls. Some of the ones I like (reputable) ask for some downpayment. And they accept pix and rarely paypal. Looks like I got my paypal blocked while sending prepayments to them so I am trying to find out if there are other ways.
In some countries you can buy a gift card online and send them the code. Is that something that could work in Brazil? Are there other ways? Noone accepts bitcoin unfortunately.
Otherwise I think there's a way if someone local could help me (for a fee of course, but also for the brotherhood of mongers).
If we could meet in person. I could give you cash and you could send pix payments to the girls I need to send to. Will appreciate anyone who could help. I might need that to happen on 12th somewhere around Hilton Marumbi but I can also get to a place that works for you and is not too far Or I can even send you bitcoin now and you can send pix (in small amounts since we're all strangers on the internet).
Thanks in advance!
JohnJones22
04-06-22, 22:25
Seen a few people in this thread talking about Buenos Aires. Anyone know if there's something close to a Scandallo in BS As? What would be the best spot currently in terms of quality in BS As? Thank you.
Strange question: has anybody ever tried to stay overnight in one of these love motels or used it like a normal hotel?The nice ones you can't use as a normal hotel IE pay a daily rate and use it as a normal hotel room. I asked the people at asturias and they said it wasn't possible. There are some smaller ones of less quality that will but honestly a decent airbnb or 3 star hotel room will be better so not worth it.
You can stay overnight tho. It's actually a better deal. Different hotels start their overnight differently but usually it's around 12 pm and you leave at noon or 2 pm. It's more or less the same fee as a 4 hour stay.
I actually had an issue with my Airbnb and so I was technically homeless for the night. I ended up taking a girl from cafe photo to asturias and was going to bunk with a fellow forum member who was staying at a nearby hotel but I called the front desk and they said I didn't have to leave until 2 pm. The rooms there are amazing and food is delicious so recommend you go and do an overnight if you aren't too comfortable taking a girl to your place. It's like 320 BRL and scandallo rooms are 250 or around there so it's better to take her there. MIRRORS. My fav.
HarvestBoi
04-07-22, 03:31
Yep I noticed on the website what you said about the overnight rate. My experience was only in the afternoons & I'the imagine that the afternoon traffic is higher than overnight (guys got to get home to the family) esp. On weekdays. Is that what call girls mean when they put that little cafecito emoji in their Twitter feeds? Asturias was really nice. Waterfalls! Fucking in glass showers!
The nice ones you can't use as a normal hotel IE pay a daily rate and use it as a normal hotel room. I asked the people at asturias and they said it wasn't possible. There are some smaller ones of less quality that will but honestly a decent airbnb or 3 star hotel room will be better so not worth it.
You can stay overnight tho. It's actually a better deal. Different hotels start their overnight differently but usually it's around 12 pm and you leave at noon or 2 pm. It's more or less the same fee as a 4 hour stay.
I actually had an issue with my Airbnb and so I was technically homeless for the night. I ended up taking a girl from cafe photo to asturias and was going to bunk with a fellow forum member who was staying at a nearby hotel but I called the front desk and they said I didn't have to leave until 2 pm. The rooms there are amazing and food is delicious so recommend you go and do an overnight if you aren't too comfortable taking a girl to your place. It's like 320 BRL and scandallo rooms are 250 or around there so it's better to take her there. MIRRORS. My fav..
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Otherwise I think there's a way if someone local could help me (for a fee of course, but also for the brotherhood of mongers)....I think you can try ask hotel concierge or tip someone at the hotel to do it for you.
You can also claim that the BRL has appreciated 32% in the past 18 months and during that journey the forum was quite active, considering everything that was happening in the world. There will be people sensitive to the F / X movement, especially those that spent significant time in Brazil, but for people just traveling for 1-3 weeks, I do not think it will make too much difference. IMHO.That's why it is important to not pay gringo prices, it may not have matter when the rate was 5.9 but how about now?
Always tell them you've been to the place many times and pay a certain local price. Even if she is down for BBFS. If you spend a week together, BBFS will most likely happen naturally.
I've spent a week with girls from various boites for 0 to 5,000 R so don't pay 1500 per HR or 2 k per night!
I think you can try ask hotel concierge or tip someone at the hotel to do it for you.Asking doesn't cost anything, but I wonder how many people want to have a pix transfer to a p**a on their account statement, at least if they are married.
My health issue seems to be subsiding finally. First Dr I saw thought it was friggin chickenpox but I can't get that because I'm vaxed against it. Because I wasnt going to fuck anyway I decided to check out how poppin Scandallo really gets on a Wednesday night. I was there from 23-0200 and the results more or less match the previous report I made in terms of girls and looks, - only a handful of 9's and "lily-whites". I got 2 girls numbers but both were traveled so I doubt Ill burn the cash on them. I recognized many of the same girls from 2 weeks ago except this time there were a shit ton more local men. I can tell yall its more than likely these Brazilian elites that are spoiling these girls with 1000 Real prices. They clearly have money to spend after being bottled up from covid.
The Brazilian economy is suffering a K Chart "recovery" just like the US. Very high inflation except the real is at least recovering but other Brasilians tell me the wages have failed to keep up for the majority of people.
Having considered the Weimarfication of the USD vs Real I looked again for the first time in a while at Colombia and the situation there isn't great either.
Casas are still dirt cheap and definitely the way to go but Prepagos are asking 2-300 K which amount to 60 usd so basically equivalent to Brasil more or less. So Colombia is still cheaper but not by much and you have far more selection in Brasil in terms of looks, if you care about food I find Brasilian food a lot more palatable than typical latin American food.
The main issue at hand therefore isn't that our destinations are changing but that the USD is toilet paper presently.
If my condition continues to improve hopefully I can be in Campinas this weekend to check out the "Farm". I'm staying at the Ipiranga love hotel which is a good value. Itd be nice to set up a local group like they have in Rio.
Vagabundo1
04-07-22, 23:52
Link for motels, hoars.
Along with a credit card and the phone or chlp that links to that account, the following two links are all that you need for Brazil.
https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro
https://www.gp-guia.net/
Yep.
Oh yea.
I like love story in central SP.
But I have done so at motel Malaga and motels in Rio like. Oh, what was that one in largo do Machado.
It works great.
You just have to get the pernoite check in times down.
Been here few times, but after covid, after a long gap.
Staying at the Hilton, Morumbi.
All the prior year contacts have vanished, married etc. , etc.
So hunting starts. Step 1 from Seeking.
Day time fun. Have asked few from Seeking to come. Prices are all over. Some want 5000? I really had to shut them down. So I have prices of 750-1000 for 2-3 hours. I have picked a 3-some for 500 each per hour. (crazy).
Night scanallo.
Know Tangara. What are the new Massage places that we can go during the day?
We are thinking of getting a group activity. 3 guys and 6 girls. Found 1 from seeking who has many friends. But most of them are average. 1400 for the full night for group activity. Is this sounding right?
LUSH hotel is 2300 from 3 pm to next day morning. Is this fine? Looking for posh and luxury place.
What is the average per girl cost at Scandollo. Previously it used to be 100-120 usd for 1 hour. How is it now?
I have done lot of reading below. Thank you for all the hobbyist.
Was going to hit Scandalo tonite, but went to Casarao instead.
Tonite there was a great selection of garotas.
Casarao can be hit and miss on the quality of garotas, however, tonite was pretty good.
LionsNTigers
04-08-22, 15:49
Just finishing my second trip to Sao Paulo, was first here three weeks ago. Arrived early Tuesday morning.
I met a civilian on another site (fetlife) and have been talking to her through WhatsApp for the past few weeks. Really hot black woman in her 20's, for some reason she really took a shine to me.
I set it up so her name is on the room and she is able to get a key and use the hotel facilities without problem. She arrived later than expected, around 8:00 Tuesday night, and stayed with me until Thursday late morning. When we were in the room, it was just non-stop fucking, and she only wanted to do anal or suck me off. She was amazing, I'm too old for that shit, if she had stayed another day I would be dead. Greatest week ever.
So then last night (Thursday night) me and a colleague went out to O'Malley's for dinner and a couple beers, and then parked at a table in the Renaissance lobby bar and watched the show. Ton of girls there, a couple of them really attractive, and not many guys. Most of the girls clearly know each other and were socializing, having a lot of fun at the bar, one or two were off to the side just sitting trying to make eye contact. My buddy and I were content to just make eye contact and smile, were not going to do anything, but as they were closing up these two that I had mistaken as tourists sat down with us and started talking. One more classic darker girl with all the curves, and another slimmer light-skinned girl. The skinny one speaks pretty good English and was very energetic and excited. Immediately started talking about their plan to go over to Amsterdam, then Zurich and work, did not play coy about what she was there for at all.
So then my buddy excuses himself, politely slips the girls a small honorarium for their time at the table, at which point the skinny one asks to go upstairs. I asked how much, she said 500 each. I asked if she would take $100 USD and she said yes, so even though I had nothing left in the tank and was too many drinks in and knew this was going to be a taffy pull, I said let's go.
So these two hotties came up for an hour for 500 reals each, which I thought was good, and we had a great time, they were fun and really put in some effort. As expected, I couldn't even get close to finishing but on a different day that would have been spectacular. There were also other options there at the bar that I thought at least looked superior, although no idea how the service would be.
Looks like a good chance I will be back in a few weeks, so assuming my dick doesn't fall off I hope to share some better stories and maybe get out to Moema and Scandallo.
FRobertson
04-08-22, 21:06
Hello fellow mongers,
Some of the ones I like (reputable) ask for some downpayment. How does one reconcile using the words "reputable" and "down payment" in the same sentence?
FRobertson
04-08-22, 21:13
Dear colleagues,
I am contemplating exploring the Ayahuasca thing. As I understand, it would be better to do it in some reputable, safe, and not-too-touristy place (I do wish for it to be somewhat authentic). Would you kindly share your experiences and guidance? (obviously doesn't need to be in SP or even in Brazil).
SamaRiding
04-09-22, 00:45
How does one reconcile using the words "reputable" and "down payment" in the same sentence?I was thinking the same. A bunch of reports on the local forum of girls who ask for an advance fee and then ghosting the guys after. I stay away for girls who ask for an advance or I play stupid and tell them that I don't have pix because I am from the states and that I am not here to play games of not showing up. That has worked for one girl I really wanted to see.
UniversalX
04-09-22, 07:07
Up and running again according to a clinica girl I sessioned. Used to be called "a boate das boates" (the mother of all discos), because it opened till daybreak and girls gathered there after other places closed for the night.
I went to Love Story late, late, late one night on my first visit to Sao Paulo. Got drunk off my ass! Only the second time in all my trips to Brazil. It was only so-so, although I did leave with somebody. A lot of the girls who work in other clubs throughout the city would show up at Love Story late. I never felt compelled to go back. But glad I did it once. I can check it off my bucket list.Haven't seen any reports on club Love Story in a long time. Pre-Covid it use to be the discoteca that GP's would go to after all Boates closed. Where a Monger could make a late-night attempt to get a GP.
There some who may not be able to stay up late at night or care to, LOL, but for those who do and like the club scene, has anyone been to club Love Story? Any up to date Love Story reports? Or is it Closed?
Hi guys,
I'm the first time in SP, have red many posts from here. Which are the best attraction which one have to do while being here:
- where one can meet normal women (more in the 30-40 year bracket) in the city during daytime.
- where to party at night for a hint change of meeting women for gringos, not for paid ones.
- which is the two best for paid services (red a lot about Scandalo, any worthwhile competition).
Thanks a lot and. Maybe we run in each other there.
Seen a few people in this thread talking about Buenos Aires. Anyone know if there's something close to a Scandallo in BS As? What would be the best spot currently in terms of quality in BS As? Thank you.You're 11 years too late.
Haven't seen any reports on club Love Story in a long time. Pre-Covid it use to be the discoteca that GP's would go to after all Boates closed. Where a Monger could make a late-night attempt to get a GP.
There some who may not be able to stay up late at night or care to, LOL, but for those who do and like the club scene, has anyone been to club Love Story? Any up to date Love Story reports? Or is it Closed?Love story closed at old location in Republica last year. I think they could not afford rent anymore. They meanwhile reopened almost next door to Casarao on Augusta. Place is much smaller now, I think it's Thur.-sat only. As before afterparty till noon I assume.
Vagabundo1
04-09-22, 17:42
Club Love Story.
Sounds like a SP version of Mosaico in RJ.
The Consolação 860, Sao Paulo, State of Sao Paulo 01302-907 Brazil.
https://exame.com/casual/love-story-icone-da-noite-de-sp-reabrira-sob-o-comando-de-facundo-guerra/
Haven't seen any reports on club Love Story in a long time. Pre-Covid it use to be the discoteca that GP's would go to after all Boates closed. Where a Monger could make a late-night attempt to get a GP.
There some who may not be able to stay up late at night or care to, LOL, but for those who do and like the club scene, has anyone been to club Love Story? Any up to date Love Story reports? Or is it Closed?
FRobertson
04-09-22, 19:03
What would be the best spot currently in terms of quality in BS As?The airport. 3 hours and you're in SP.
Sorry, just couldn't resist :)))
Incrociatore
04-09-22, 19:56
Been here few times, but after covid, after a long gap.
Staying at the Hilton, Morumbi.
All the prior year contacts have vanished, married etc. , etc.
So hunting starts. Step 1 from Seeking.
Day time fun. Have asked few from Seeking to come. Prices are all over. Some want 5000? I really had to shut them down. So I have prices of 750-1000 for 2-3 hours. I have picked a 3-some for 500 each per hour. (crazy).
Night scanallo.
Know Tangara. What are the new Massage places that we can go during the day?
We are thinking of getting a group activity. 3 guys and 6 girls. Found 1 from seeking who has many friends. But most of them are average. 1400 for the full night for group activity. Is this sounding right?.Man these prices are crazy, you are in Brazil, not LA. I would not pay these prices. Had twice a 3 some for 500, one hour, two girls, not 500 each. This last year. At my place. Taxi included. With OnlyFans and all the simps paying just to watch pussy, girls are asking premium prices, all over the world. Fuck in Eastern Europe costs like in Paris, the only decent place is still Colombia. If this is the trend, Sao Paulo will be only good for who likes trans.
Club Love Story.
Sounds like a SP version of Mosaico in RJ.
The Consolao 860, Sao Paulo, State of Sao Paulo 01302-907 Brazil.
https://exame.com/casual/love-story-icone-da-noite-de-sp-reabrira-sob-o-comando-de-facundo-guerra/This is an exciting news to me. I happen to like a couple of places one of the new owners has. I think it will be very good if they can manage this place like the other properties.
Went to Tangara on Thursday and had a quicky with a tatted readhead Italiana for 120. They only had like 10 girls there.
Went back to 57 Friend's but it was dead as a dorn nail but I met up with a fellow scholar who hooked me up with the whatsapp group, thanks J.
He recommended I try Casarao and it did indeed work out. Casarao was very busy and had around 50 girls. Definitely more working class vibe but still plenty of brancas etc. Most ask for 500 but I've been able to get them down to 400, which I did with a blue eyed Redhead from Parana. Casarao fees are 50 for consumo and 100 for room. I never asked if there was a take home fee.
The next day (Friday) I repeated what I did. Tangara was even drier so I left and 57 was dead too, went to Prime which had about 15 girls and several 7+ but by this time they were peaking in business (after 4 pm) and ran out of rooms!? So I left again and went to Miruna which is close by and had a tall morena for 250 an hour.
It was Friday so I knew I wasnt done yet, Cararao being budget friendly I decided to go there after going back to my hotel to literally recharge. Casarao had most of the same girls from previous night and I chose another tall petite morena who wanted to get bitey. Some of the girls at Casarao seemed pretty firmly set at 500 but once you've let them understand the whitest girl in the club went for 400 you've got them beat. Rooms at Casarao also have radios that are Bluetooth capable if you want to play your music.
Vagabundo1
04-10-22, 02:16
Good report. Looking forward to seeing you in Rio. You will find the clinicas / prives in Rio and Mosaico, Perola Negra similar to your venues in SP.
Went to Tangara on Thursday and had a quicky with a tatted readhead Italiana for 120. They only had like 10 girls there.
Went back to 57 Friend's but it was dead as a dorn nail but I met up with a fellow scholar who hooked me up with the whatsapp group, thanks J.
He recommended I try Casarao and it did indeed work out. Casarao was very busy and had around 50 girls. Definitely more working class vibe but still plenty of brancas etc. Most ask for 500 but I've been able to get them down to 400, which I did with a blue eyed Redhead from Parana. Casarao fees are 50 for consumo and 100 for room. I never asked if there was a take home fee.
The next day (Friday) I repeated what I did. Tangara was even drier so I left and 57 was dead too, went to Prime which had about 15 girls and several 7+ but by this time they were peaking in business (after 4 pm) and ran out of rooms!? So I left again and went to Miruna which is close by and had a tall morena for 250 an hour.
It was Friday so I knew I wasnt done yet, Cararao being budget friendly I decided to go there after going back to my hotel to literally recharge. Casarao had most of the same girls from previous night and I chose another tall petite morena who wanted to get bitey..
I'm be one and a half months in SP starting in May. Given the cold night temperatures at this time of year, I'll have to pass on my favourite AirBnb because it has Aircon but no heating. I plan to stay a fair amount of days at Renaissance. Does the hotel have an in-room safe? Does the hotel have heating? Last time I stayed at Double Tree Itaim which had both the above. Renaissance is better situated than Double Tree for Casarao which now is reported to be operating (on my last trip it was still closed). Thanks.
Does anyone know if places like Tangara, Casarao, Scandallo would stay open during Easter and Tiradentes holiday?
SocratesNY
04-10-22, 13:35
I plan to stay a fair amount of days at Renaissance. Does the hotel have an in-room safe? Does the hotel have heating?Yes and Yes. The Renaissance is probably the best "5 star quality" hotel for hobbying due to a combination of location, cost and girl friendliness.
I'm be one and a half months in SP starting in May. Given the cold night temperatures at this time of year, I'll have to pass on my favourite AirBnb because it has Aircon but no heating. I plan to stay a fair amount of days at Renaissance. Does the hotel have an in-room safe? Does the hotel have heating? Last time I stayed at Double Tree Itaim which had both the above. Renaissance is better situated than Double Tree for Casarao which now is reported to be operating (on my last trip it was still closed). Thanks.Yes to safe no to heat like most places but can request a portable heater. Considered one of the top hotels in SP. I avoid telling girls where I'm staying so they don't think they can jack up their prices because I'm staying at a nice hotel.
Axel Heyst
04-10-22, 19:29
I'm be one and a half months in SP starting in May. Given the cold night temperatures at this time of year, I'll have to pass on my favourite AirBnb because it has Aircon but no heating. I plan to stay a fair amount of days at Renaissance. Does the hotel have an in-room safe? Does the hotel have heating? Last time I stayed at Double Tree Itaim which had both the above. Renaissance is better situated than Double Tree for Casarao which now is reported to be operating (on my last trip it was still closed). Thanks.
Yes and Yes. The Renaissance is probably the best "5 star quality" hotel for hobbying due to a combination of location, cost and girl friendliness.Of the three big American SP hotels; the Renaissance, The Intercontinental, & The Grand Hyatt, only the Hyatt had a thermostat that actually heats and can maintain a room temperature at 76 degrees Fahrenheit when the weather outside turns chilly. Forget about heating in the other two 5 star hotels where thermostat heat does not exist, but it is not that bad. Room temperatures at the Renaissance and the Intercontinental never fell below 70 degrees during my stays so it is manageable even for a Florida boy like myself who prefers a warm 78 degrees Fahrenheit ambient temp in my home. My solution to the lack of room heating in Southern Brazil is to bring along my Patagonia Fleece Pullover. I wear it all the time in my hotel room and I am never cold.
I think the Hyatt is the best of these three 5 star hotels because it has the nicest rooms and offers the best hotel amenities, but it has the worst location of the three which is something that I can not ignore. It is therefore not my 1st choice in hotels in SP. The Renaissance & the Intercontinental have the best locations. The Renaissance has nicer rooms and just a little bit better location than the Intercontinental, but the Intercontinental has a nicer swimming pool than the Renaissance.
There are FL hookers that hang out at the Hyatt and Renaissance Lobby Bars if that is of interest to anyone. I have never seen hookers hanging out at the Intercontinental.
Of course, there are room safes in all 3 hotels. The Hyatt and Renaissance room safes were large enough to stow my 15 inch laptop. I can't remember if the Intercontinental room safe was equally as large or I had to stow my laptop in my suitcase.
My hotel preference is therefore simple: I view the Renaissance & Intercontinental as interchangeable. I will stay at whichever hotel offers me the best deal and on the basis of the current amount of hotel points (miles) and free voucher nights I have in my 2 Chase Hotel accounts.
On my almost upcoming visit which begins this week, I am staying 3 nights for free at the Intercontinental and 5 nights free at the Renaissance (Marriott) in addition to a few pay later nights at both hotels and I am also staying at the Grand Hyatt free on points a couple nights before I fly to RJ.
Why do you need a heater? The room will get pretty warm if you don't turn on the ac. I always keep the ac on otherwise the room gets stuffy.
The Critic
04-10-22, 22:03
Of the three big American SP hotels; the Renaissance, The Intercontinental, & The Grand Hyatt, only the Hyatt had a thermostat that actually heats and can maintain a room temperature at 76 degrees Fahrenheit when the weather outside turns chilly. Forget about heating in the other two 5 star hotels where thermostat heat does not exist, but it is not that bad. Room temperatures at the Renaissance and the Intercontinental never fell below 70 degrees during my stays so it is manageable even for a Florida boy like myself who prefers a warm 78 degrees Fahrenheit ambient temp in my home. My solution to the lack of room heating in Southern Brazil is to bring along my Patagonia Fleece Pullover. I wear it all the time in my hotel room and I am never cold.
I think the Hyatt is the best of these three 5 star hotels because it has the nicest rooms and offers the best hotel amenities, but it has the worst location of the three which is something that I can not ignore. It is therefore not my 1st choice in hotels in SP. The Renaissance & the Intercontinental have the best locations. The Renaissance has nicer rooms and just a little bit better location than the Intercontinental, but the Intercontinental has a nicer swimming pool than the Renaissance.
There are FL hookers that hang out at the Hyatt and Renaissance Lobby Bars if that is of interest to anyone. I have never seen hookers hanging out at the Intercontinental.
Of course, there are room safes in all 3 hotels. The Hyatt and Renaissance room safes were large enough to stow my 15 inch laptop. I can't remember if the Intercontinental room safe was equally as large or I had to stow my laptop in my suitcase.
My hotel preference is therefore simple: I view the Renaissance & Intercontinental as interchangeable. I will stay at whichever hotel offers me the best deal and on the basis of the current amount of hotel points (miles) and free voucher nights I have in my 2 Chase Hotel accounts.
On my almost upcoming visit which begins this week, I am staying 3 nights for free at the Intercontinental and 5 nights free at the Renaissance (Marriott) in addition to a few pay later nights at both hotels and I am also staying at the Grand Hyatt free on points a couple nights before I fly to RJ.Good review, Thanks for posting! Also good utilization of Frequent Flyer / Hotel Rewards Points for free stays at Hotels. Frees up more funds for "entertainment"!
In May-June-July How cold does it get in SP and what type of Coat / Jacket does anyone recommend to bring / wear?
Why do you need a heater? The room will get pretty warm if you don't turn on the ac. I always keep the ac on otherwise the room gets stuffy.Well, here it is, average low of 54-56F in May. Can get cool at night. I was in Lima in September, never been so cold im my life, nowhere to go, room temperature at 15°C all the time.
Why do you need a heater? The room will get pretty warm if you don't turn on the ac. I always keep the ac on otherwise the room gets stuffy.I totally agree. In SP you don't need a heater. Certainly not in May. There might be a few days late June to early August where it could be a bit chilly but it is not like Bogota for example. I requested a portable heater during my stay there, in SP winter never. During the day it gets warmer and heats up the room anyway.
Well, here it is, average low of 54-56F in May. Can get cool at night. I was in Lima in September, never been so cold im my life, nowhere to go, room temperature at 15C all the time.The first time I went to Sao Paulo, it was during the winter months down there. Overall, what they call "cold" outside is nothing to me, but the temperature in my hotel was unacceptably cool with inadequate heat coming in through the ventilation, no matter how much I tried to adjust the temperature in my room. There were a number of problems with the place, Hotel Mercure on Lavandisca in Moema, that I never stayed there again and cannot recommend it.
AussieMonger22
04-11-22, 12:32
Apologies if this has been asked before, but is it worthwhile mongering in São Paulo shortly before, during and after Carnaval? Does the talent dry up as people head away to party?
Axel Heyst
04-11-22, 13:02
In May-June-July How cold does it get in SP and what type of Coat / Jacket does anyone recommend to bring / wear?
Well, here it is, average low of 54-56F in May. Can get cool at night. Here is the May 2022 forecast for SP.
https://www.accuweather.com/en/br/s%C3%A3o-paulo/45881/may-weather/45881
As you can see the weather varies. On a sunny day SP weather can be real nice with a high around 76 F and all you may need is a windbreaker or nothing at all. But on a cloudy, rainy night the lows can be near 53 F which is not bad by Chicago or Berlin fall standards, but it warrants a versatile 3 season jacket if you want to be totally unaffected by the chill. And like I said in my previous post, I also recommend bringing a Patagonia Fleece Pullover or warm wool sweater to be completely comfortable on those chilly days in your unheated hotel room. That said, you don't need to bring anything extra except maybe a light weight windbreaker if you are the cold tolerant type.
The first time I went to Sao Paulo, it was during the winter months down there. Overall, what they call "cold" outside is nothing to me, but the temperature in my hotel was unacceptably cool with inadequate heat coming in through the ventilation, no matter how much I tried to adjust the temperature in my room. There were a number of problems with the place, Hotel Mercure on Lavandisca in Moema, that I never stayed there again and cannot recommend it.I actually quite like this hotel. I have stayed there many times with no problem.
The first time I went to Sao Paulo, it was during the winter months down there. Overall, what they call "cold" outside is nothing to me, but the temperature in my hotel was unacceptably cool with inadequate heat coming in through the ventilation, no matter how much I tried to adjust the temperature in my room.I concur. While I'm sleeping under a layer of blankets, I'm fine. During the day, I have to leave the drafty room or I won't want to leave the bed.
Dealing with North America winters, I'm fine outside with a handy light jacket if need be during the afternoon. There is just something about sitting around idle in a drafty hotel room. The Patagonia fleece pullover is good advice.
Axel Heyst
04-11-22, 18:23
Apologies if this has been asked before, but is it worthwhile mongering in Sao Paulo shortly before, during and after Carnaval? Does the talent dry up as people head away to party?I don't know, but I will let you know. I will be in SP in a couple of days.
Over the Easter weekend I have a couple of my favorite girls from previous trips already slated to come on over and keep me happy. After that I will see how things are going during Carnival the following week. I know Bomboa and Solarium are going to be open during carnival, so everything should be OK. I plan to check them both out. My experience in other places during a national holiday is that even if 30% of the girls are doing something else there are enough quality girls on hand to keep me happy until everyone comes back. But like I said, I have my favorites on standby if things get too problematic.
AussieMonger22
04-11-22, 21:39
I don't know, but I will let you know. I will be in SP in a couple of days.
Over the Easter weekend I have a couple of my favorite girls from previous trips already slated to come on over and keep me happy. After that I will see how things are going during Carnival the following week. I know Bomboa and Solarium are going to be open during carnival, so everything should be OK. I plan to check them both out. My experience in other places during a national holiday is that even if 30% of the girls are doing something else there are enough quality girls on hand to keep me happy until everyone comes back. But like I said, I have my favorites on standby if things get too problematic.Thanks!
Thanks heaps!
Gigi Buffon
04-11-22, 22:11
Apologies if this has been asked before, but is it worthwhile mongering in So Paulo shortly before, during and after Carnaval? Does the talent dry up as people head away to party?Carnival in 2022 will take place outside the usual dates, which is mid February to early March. Also looks like is running for more days than usual (April 20 to April 30), weather will be colder and most daily activities are running as usual. April 21 is an official holiday, which means that most working Brazilians will be off from Wednesday night to Sunday night. I would expect things getting back to normal on April 25. During normal Carnival (summer time), there is a lot of traveling and partying taking place, interesting to see how it will play out this year. But, I will expect that there will be plenty of partying in São Paulo and Rio.
The Critic
04-12-22, 07:18
Here is the May 2022 forecast for SP.
https://www.accuweather.com/en/br/s%C3%A3o-paulo/45881/may-weather/45881
As you can see the weather varies. On a sunny day SP weather can be real nice with a high around 76 F and all you may need is a windbreaker or nothing at all. But on a cloudy, rainy night the lows can be near 53 F which is not bad by Chicago or Berlin fall standards, but it warrants a versatile 3 season jacket if you want to be totally unaffected by the chill. And like I said in my previous post, I also recommend bringing a Patagonia Fleece Pullover or warm wool sweater to be completely comfortable on those chilly days in your unheated hotel room. That said, you don't need to bring anything extra except maybe a light weight windbreaker if you are the cold tolerant type.
Well, here it is, average low of 54-56F in May. Can get cool at night.
Dealing with North America winters, I'm fine outside with a handy light jacket if need be during the afternoon...... The Patagonia fleece pullover is good advice.Thanks everyone, Good Info.
The Critic
04-12-22, 07:31
Apologies if this has been asked before, but is it worthwhile mongering in So Paulo shortly before, during and after Carnaval? Does the talent dry up as people head away to party?Yes, Also if you have specific place (s) you want to visit, take the time to ensure they are open and hours of operation. You may need to go to FB / IG / Twitter / websites or email or call the establishments. Some places close and or have shorter operating hours (Holidays / Carnival / Major Event).
FredJonesJones
04-13-22, 00:01
Thanks for that incredibly valuable post (and Part 2). I am going to SP for first time and have a few questions:
I'll be staying at DoubleTree Hilton for part of the stay and Pullman for the rest. I'm a Gringo. Based on research in this forum, my itinerary tentatively includes:
Clinicas:
Moema Prime.
Tangara.
Abbora.
57 Friends.
Clubs:
Scandallo.
Cafe Photo.
Bamboa.
Casarao.
Some questions:
0. Are there any other clubs / clinicas within walking distance of these hotels that I have failed to identify above?
1. Do free lancers work either of these hotels? If not, are there nearby hotels with free lancers that I could take back to either place?
2. Do the clubs / clinicas require you provide identification upon entry?
3. Do the clubs / clinicas have WIFI?
4. Will try to Uber as much as possible, but always like a contingent plan.
A. Is it safe for a Gringo to walk these areas alone after dark?
Be. Will the clubs / clinicas call a taxi for you if you ask?
5. Is it easy to find black girls? Asian girls?
6. Is the clinica scene only for happy endings (blow job, hand job) or is it anything goes (depending on the girl)?
7. Will the girls and clubs accept USD?
8. Is it easy to purchase prepaid debit cards in SP?
Appreciate the help.
I stopped doing trip reports after my first 3 visits to SP from last year, but my lat 3-4 trips since then have been better and better so I figure I should share some of the adventures, observations and tips after my 6+ trips to Brazil in the last 12 months.
Just be aware that this is coming from the perspective of someone who visit SP for only 4 to 7 days per trip and has limited Portuguese knowledge, so time is my most precious commodity. I am not looking to spend the majority of my limited time trying to find diamonds in the rough at bargain basement prices. I don't play the normal long game that some of the locals or long-term residents play.
My goal each trip is to shag the hottest girls possible that I have good chemistry or connection with. English skills are definitely a plus as I like to take a girl out to dinner, and having to use Google translate in that environment isn't enjoyable or optimal. I don't mind paying top end prices, but also look for "value" within said venue. If I can get most of the hotter girls for a pernoite at a particular boate for R1,000 to R1,500, I ain't going to be plunking down R3,000 to some hottie looking to hustle a gringo at that same spot!.
...Clinicas:
Moema Prime.
Tangara.
Abbora.
57 Friends.
...You can add Enjoy and Miruna to the list since they are all walking distance to each other. Remove Tangara because it's distance. You need to make a uber trip to Tangara. It is also a little rundown. Some don't like it. There are more black girls in Rio but you can find them in SP too
Clubs will record your ID.
Carnival in 2022 will take place outside the usual dates, which is mid February to early March. Also looks like is running for more days than usual (April 20 to April 30), weather will be colder and most daily activities are running as usual. April 21 is an official holiday, which means that most working Brazilians will be off from Wednesday night to Sunday night. I would expect things getting back to normal on April 25. During normal Carnival (summer time), there is a lot of traveling and partying taking place, interesting to see how it will play out this year. But, I will expect that there will be plenty of partying in So Paulo and Rio.Oh nooooooo. I am there on the 19th to 25th. Is my trip going to suck due to the carnival and Scandolo going to be empty?
SamaRiding
04-13-22, 06:21
I am going to SP for first time
Some questions:
Appreciate the help.In Moema, you can check out MOAH, Miruna, and enjoy which is in walking distance. Clinicas is Full service. WiFi? I think most of clinicas have WiFi for the girls. One guy told me that moema prime had the fastest WiFi he had in all of SP. Probably need to ask receptionist for password. I never offer USD and doubt the clinicas will take it. Girls you take from the clubs may accept it, but you have to ask them individually though I wouldn't count on it. Some black girls, few random Asians but most are white or Latino looking.
Moema and Jardins near the hotels are very safe. All the locals take the extensive metro / subway system.
Oh nooooooo. I am there on the 19th to 25th. Is my trip going to suck due to the carnival and Scandolo going to be empty?I will be in town for that weekend and planned it a few months ago without realizing that carnival is at the same time. My hotel is fully booked and thankfully I have two girls booked for a weekend of BBFSCIP and anal porn star experience.
I will be in town for that weekend and planned it a few months ago without realizing that carnival is at the same time. My hotel is fully booked and thankfully I have two girls booked for a weekend of BBFSCIP and anal porn star experience.Who's the porn star you plan to butt fuck pray tell? Haha! Would love to look her up if I'm not familiar. Maybe fuck her in the ass my own self someday LOL!
FredJonesJones
04-13-22, 20:55
In Moema, you can check out MOAH, Miruna, and enjoy which is in walking distance. Clinicas is Full service. WiFi? I think most of clinicas have WiFi for the girls. One guy told me that moema prime had the fastest WiFi he had in all of SP. Probably need to ask receptionist for password. I never offer USD and doubt the clinicas will take it. Girls you take from the clubs may accept it, but you have to ask them individually though I wouldn't count on it. Some black girls, few random Asians but most are white or Latino looking.
Moema and Jardins near the hotels are very safe. All the locals take the extensive metro / subway system.Thanks very much for the help. I couldn't find MOAH via Google search. Any tips?
Also, will the clubs such as Scandalla order a taxi for you when it's time to leave?
EverythingBlue
04-13-22, 21:59
I will be in town for that weekend and planned it a few months ago without realizing that carnival is at the same time. My hotel is fully booked and thankfully I have two girls booked for a weekend of BBFSCIP and anal porn star experience.That sounds like it will be a great adventure! I have not been able to secure two girls willing to do bare at the same time, and anal included! That's double the risk but also double the reward LOL. I would probably do it still haha. Nothing like securing yourself a girl that's agreed to do BBFSCIP on demand, and all night long. Safe travels and please share your report, specially of how the logistics go with two girls, example girl 1 takes it in the butt then switch to girl 2 in the butt or pussy? I would go crazy trying all different combinations and holes to finish in!
I don't think switching from butt to pussy will be possible as it isn't very hygienic for the girls and I doubt they would allow that. I know they are ok with me interchanging pussy to pussy. All three of us have gotten our STD exams taken care of before our meeting.
A bit of background Girl 1 (we will call her M) from Recife is someone I met back in Dec 2020 when I had three girls at the same time one night. We really clicked well so we kept in touch. In January of 2021, I bought her and a friend o hers for a twosome with BBFS and that was a flop. Her friend totally flaked and was a bust. She on the other hand was a total firecracker. She apologized and told me she would make up for it next time. We couldn't get together because Scandello opened back up and I wanted to go there instead on my next visits. Plus I was vary of her possible choices for a threesome. I have been talking to her about doing another threesome and she suggested that we can get together next time I am in Brazil and she will have someone. So as this trip came to being planned, I hit her up. She said sure but that she had just gotten back from England and was going to look for some. Fast forward to this week and she hasn't found anyone willing to work with our requirements. I haven't done anal with her and she hasn't been too keen on trying but maybe this time I might be able to try it with her.
I also was looking and found two girls willing in SP but they just weren't giving me the right vibe. These were my choices:
https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/agatha-muniz
https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/bella-harper
Both agreed to BBFSCIP and anal but I wasn't feeling it due to their communication thru WA. So I just let them go and kept looking. On Monday, this one popped up.
https://mclass.com/acompanhantes/3231/
And I remembered her as a girl who I had set up a weekend with back in August 2021 but cancelled since I wanted to hit up Scandello as it had just fully reopened. I never saved her number and I remember we had agreed to BBFSCIP and anal for the weekend. So I messaged her and she remembered me and agreed to everything included CIM and swallow and I was like "wow. She is like a dream come true". She told me on Monday that she would get tested this week and have the results by next week before my arrival. I wanted to see if she would take care of this herself without me telling her to. Sure enough .. she texted me today with the bill from the GYN and the test appointment for tomorrow. She is super excited for the weekend. The girl from Recife likes her and both are bi and both have agreed to let me swap between them and they are going to enjoy each other as well.
Now that I have set up the weekend. Let's see how it goes. I plan to go in with zero expectations so in case it all goes to shit, I don't feel too disappointed.
I don't think switching from butt to pussy will be possible as it isn't very hygienic for the girls and I doubt they would allow that.I've only had that happen one time ever. It was in Brazil in Rio at Termas 65, and the girl requested it. She was one of my favorites, and I was anchored deep up in her ass, as usual. She wanted me to go straight from the booty hole to her pussy hole. I was surprised, but since she "offered", I went on ahead with it. She's happy, I'm happy LOL! Those are some shots of her in the pics. Later she asked about going to Buzios together. Ah the memories!
Jimmy Boy 99
04-14-22, 01:00
Thanks very much for the help. I couldn't find MOAH via Google search. Any tips?
Also, will the clubs such as Scandalla order a taxi for you when it's time to leave?CLínica SPA Moah. Av. Moaci ,885 Moema Tel fixo 3727-2047 Zap 94164-3587.
Gigi Buffon
04-14-22, 01:50
Oh nooooooo. I am there on the 19th to 25th. Is my trip going to suck due to the carnival and Scandolo going to be empty?I do not think so. Is party time, most people are in the mood to let things get wild, at least that have been my experience during Carnaval in Rio and São Paulo. Number of relationship breaking-up during Carnaval peak because things can get crazy for everyone. I am just unsure about the off-cycle thing, Brazilian can be a little peaky about weather. But, if you can get into a "camarote" (e. G. Like a private suite in USA Stadiums) you are guaranteed to have the time of your life, at least that has been my experience.
EverythingBlue
04-14-22, 02:10
I don't think switching from butt to pussy will be possible as it isn't very hygienic for the girls and I doubt they would allow that. I know they are ok with me interchanging pussy to pussy. All three of us have gotten our STD exams taken care of before our meeting.
A bit of background Girl 1 (we will call her M) from Recife is someone I met back in Dec 2020 when I had three girls at the same time one night. We really clicked well so we kept in touch. In January of 2021, I bought her and a friend o hers for a twosome with BBFS and that was a flop. Her friend totally flaked and was a bust. She on the other hand was a total firecracker. She apologized and told me she would make up for it next time. We couldn't get together because Scandello opened back up and I wanted to go there instead on my next visits. Plus I was vary of her possible choices for a threesome. I have been talking to her about doing another threesome and she suggested that we can get together next time I am in Brazil and she will have someone. So as this trip came to being planned, I hit her up. She said sure but that she had just gotten back from England and was going to look for some. Fast forward to this week and she hasn't found anyone willing to work with our requirements. I haven't done anal with her and she hasn't been too keen on trying but maybe this time I might be able to try it with her.
I also was looking and found two girls willing in SP but they just weren't giving me the right vibe. These were my choices:
https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/agatha-muniz
https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/bella-harper
Both agreed to BBFSCIP and anal but I wasn't feeling it due to their communication thru WA. So I just let them go and kept looking. On Monday, this one popped up.
https://mclass.com/acompanhantes/3231/
Now that I have set up the weekend. Let's see how it goes. I plan to go in with zero expectations so in case it all goes to shit, I don't feel too disappointed.You've done some good recon, I would've passed on those two as well. Photos seem modified to improve their appearance for sure. I have not negotiated BBFSCIP over text in SP, only in person. I think it's an extra risk, not about diseases necessarily but the quality of the girl might be inferior. You have already done some prior vetting so the plan seems sound, my only worry would be if another monger comes in during carnival and scoops them up, hopefully not.
Although it might sound like it's not hygienic, in the heat of the moment with two girls and all 3 holes open for both, so 6 holes and maybe a few drinks in who will keep count? LOL. Bare anal to bare pussy would be something else though, please try to keep track of the action and report haha!
Girl 2 looks solid BTW, redheads are sexy!
Is it normal to make a deposit when scheduling with some of these Twitter escorts? I've also had some say I need to buy videos first before I can schedule anything.
Is it normal to make a deposit when scheduling with some of these Twitter escorts? I've also had some say I need to buy videos first before I can schedule anything.If you are new to this, don't do it. There are plenty that do not require deposit. Wait until you are familiar with how things work. Don't buy videos or pictures in order to get something else. It rarely works out.
Steve 9696
04-14-22, 19:01
If you are new to this, don't do it. There are plenty that do not require deposit. Wait until you are familiar with how things work. Don't buy videos or pictures in order to get something else. It rarely works out.Yeah That's even a bit kind. ID go with never ever ever give a girl you don't know any money for anything. They may even not be a girl! And that's the last you will hear from them. Always always only money in person to a girl you have physically had sex with!
FredJonesJones
04-14-22, 20:08
Thanks very much for the help. I couldn't find MOAH via Google search. Any tips?
Also, will the clubs such as Scandalla order a taxi for you when it's time to leave?Wills the clubs and Clinicas order a taxi for you when it's time to leave? Trying to stay off the grid.
Wills the clubs and Clinicas order a taxi for you when it's time to leave? Trying to stay off the grid.The big clubs will have taxis waiting outside. I don't know about clinicas since I don't visit them but I am sure they will order you one if you need it.
Is it normal to make a deposit when scheduling with some of these Twitter escorts? I've also had some say I need to buy videos first before I can schedule anything.Forget it! Even if you were prepared to make the deposit, you will need to do so through some local payment system that may not even be available if you don't have a CPF (tax number). Unless you are foolish enough to send your credit card!
It has been two years since I had a clinica order a taxi for me but I had several do it then. I would just ask them to order it for me and they would let me know when it was out front. You could ask them when you first arrive to verify? I have also walked from the DoubleTree Hilton in Itaim to the Tangara clinic. Was a hike but doable.
Wills the clubs and Clinicas order a taxi for you when it's time to leave? Trying to stay off the grid.
SamaRiding
04-15-22, 05:02
Forget it! Even if you were prepared to make the deposit, you will need to do so through some local payment system that may not even be available if you don't have a CPF (tax number). Unless you are foolish enough to send your credit card!I heard that some girls have Paypal now for the foreigners who don't have Pix. Just say no.
Is it normal to make a deposit when scheduling with some of these Twitter escorts? I've also had some say I need to buy videos first before I can schedule anything.It really depends on the girl and how bad you want her. If she is active on twitter with a good number of followers with positive remarks or somewhat famous in her trade, then I would take the risk. Plus I got to really want her. If she is a nobody, doesn't have positive reports, not active on twitter. No followers. I would say its risky. For example, Luiza marcato. She has a lot of followers, very active, does a lot of videos, has onlyfans, posts on private but she does ask for a deposit. These girls got guys lined up waiting so deposit ensures her you are the real deal.
Axel Heyst
04-15-22, 17:53
I was a little tired after my overnight flight from MIA, but wild horses could not stop from going to a boate my first night back in town. In addition, it was a drizzly Thursday night before Good Friday and I knew all the clubs would be closed for Easter holiday weekend. In any case I arrived at Bomboa around 8:30 pm. I was not expecting a wild scene, ha ha, and I was not too far off with my prediction. Things were kind of quiet. There was a live band, however, and I would estimate that the number of girls present was around 30% of normal, but I immediately spotted 2 fairly, decent looking, late 20's brancas and they spotted me of course.
I invited one over and she was very friendly, if you know what I mean, so after some kissing & touching, and a little nonsense about money; she originally asked for 800 br and tried to tell me she was talking br, not dollars, KKK, I offered her 500, and she accepted 500. But I can't knock a girl for trying. I must have looked to her like a newbie just off the plane.
Anyway, it was all love and kisses as soon we got into the room. She knelt down and blew me while I stood in front of her, and I knew I was back in Brazil. Ha Ha. After we stripped, she blew me again on the bed. Then we lay together making out. She spat on my finger and shoved it up her pussy (always a nice touch) and we continued to make out. She said she liked my Sagami 0.02, but did not know how to open it.
Boom boom was nice. We did it in covered cowgirl, then 4 feet (doggie), and then mish with a lot of kissing in mish. I came and thought that was that, but she asked if I wanted a massage and I said OK. She whipped out some oil and rubbed it on my back. The massage was soft and I being tired from my flight just relaxed and unwound.
But when I rolled over, she laid down next to me and we began kissing again. Then she took my hand and rubbed it on her clit. I got the idea and took over. After a while I inserted my finger again while we passionately made out. I got hard and started to kiss her breasts. I thought about it a second or two and then I made my way down to her vagina. I licked her clit. She smelled really good, so I went all the way downtown on her. She was loving it and drenched my face in her vaginal fluids. I moved up her body and our lips and tongues met again. I was about to bareback her, but she asked for a condom at the last moment and so being the gentleman that I am, I suited up and we were off to a 2nd boom boom in which she encouraged me to pound her good.
So long story short is that it was a rainy pre-holiday night, not a big crowd at Bomboa, but there were a few attractive girls on hand. I picked up a nice, friendly blond and she showed me a GFE good time. It was a very friendly, Brazilin welcome back to SP. Tonight, I have my wild indigenous girl that I met last trip in Scandallo coming over for a reunion. This girl is unbelievable in bed and I love her!
Spent 6 weeks in Brazil Feb-March mostly in SP but for the first time visited Rio as well during the first week of March. So about time I mentioned about this trip especially as I'm just back here for a week in SP again haha.
SP.
This time there was the good (in fact very good) then the bad and then the ugly haha.
Scandello was smooth sailing mostly except for a couple of hiccups that I could have lived without. The bad was I got quoted high prices like 3000, one even said 4 K haha. The ugly experience was to do with an attractive redhead from Puerto Allegra! We had agreed oral no condom and 1200 pernoite. Well she changed her tune on both these aspects in the hotel room! This pissed me off so I told her to leave. She called her some really stupid scandallo manager who started insisting that I pay her but I just ignored that stupid guy and to bring a long story short ultimately hotel security got involved and finally I just paid up and got rid of her! Her name is Angel / Angelika and your mileage may vary of course but just a heads up.
Apart from this it was good fun again! Found new ones in Scandallo, Cafe Foto, Bamboa and Bahamas with repeats from my contacts from last trip. Mostly in their 20's blondes, redheads, brunettes and morenas etc. Prices ranged from 1200 to 2500. However quotations ranged from 2000-4000 hahaha.
This time I also visited the clinicas but just two: prime and 57 house both in Moema. All great experiences on par if not better than the boates as far as just raw sex is concerned.
Rio was just a fantastic overall experience although the girl selection is way better in SP I think (albeit more expensive in SP though).
Stayed on copacobana and it felt safe with so much police around. Went to mabs, vita dulce, mosaico. Picked up a few on different nights from vita dulce. One of them I repeated and spent the day and couple of evenings with me. She was in her 30's and more native looking but a total blast to be with! Drinking with her till 1 am in one of those copacobana beach kiosks with concurrently smoking MJ on the beach sand dancing to the music and then heading back to the hotel for sex! Different experienced and amazing night!
Pulled my usual routine on the last day. Flight was at 9:30 and I found this Branco beauty at Scandallo late afternoon and came back to the hotel 7 pm after an in-house session there. She was so hot in bed as well only downside was the silicon boobs. So nice memories on my final day last trip.
All set. Ready to fly tomorrow.
Staying at the Renaissance.
1. how is the action in the lobby? And what is the cost to take them upstairs.
2. booked double beds and it allowed max 3 guests and I have booked it. I have organized a 3 some from seeking. Will it be an issue to take 2 of them?
3. does the hotel generally ask the girls to register?
4. where are the Cambio's near by to this hotel? I saw 2 of them on google and both of them are 20 minutes by walk.
5. is Scandallo asking for 2000? Really. (below post). I have usually paid 500. Is it going to ruin?
6. Bamboa and Cafe Foto, Bahamas. Do they have a room upstairs are we have to take the girl to the hotel again?
7. are there action places around the renaissance. I used to stay at the Sheraton / WTC before. It was a short ride to Tangara etc.
8. also booked 6 of them from 3 pm to next day brunch time on Sunday at a motel. Fingers crossed.
Is anyone staying at this hotel from 20th to 25th? We can grab a drink?
Help on the questions will help. Not too new to SP as well as not too much of an expert. (thanks to all the wonderful contributors.).
Staying at the Renaissance.
1. how is the action in the lobby? And what is the cost to take them upstairs.
Good on weekends, never took because it's a risk since they can do whatever and leave, at least the boite girls have some quality control.
2. booked double beds and it allowed max 3 guests and I have booked it. I have organized a 3 some from seeking. Will it be an issue to take 2 of them?
No they don't check anymore.
3. does the hotel generally ask the girls to register?
You can for your own safety.
4. where are the Cambio's near by to this hotel? I saw 2 of them on google and both of them are 20 minutes by walk.
Go to ATM on av Paulista.
5. is Scandallo asking for 2000? Really. (below post). I have usually paid 500. Is it going to ruin?
Don't pay gringo price, 90% will go for 1500 to go out. 500-700/ HR.
6. Bamboa and Cafe Foto, Bahamas. Do they have a room upstairs are we have to take the girl to the hotel again?
Bomba yes foto no.
7. are there action places around the renaissance. I used to stay at the Sheraton / WTC before. It was a short ride to Tangara etc.
Caserao.
8. also booked 6 of them from 3 pm to next day brunch time on Sunday at a motel. Fingers crossed.
Ok?
Is anyone staying at this hotel from 20th to 25th? We can grab a drink?
I'll be there end of the month but have 3 bombshells lined up already.
Help on the questions will help. Not too new to SP as well as not too much of an expert. (thanks to all the wonderful contributors.
CarpeDiem305
04-19-22, 03:25
Does anyone of Airbnb's or hotels that don't require you to sign your guest in? Anytime I visited a girl last time I had to sign in, so is that just a rule throughout the city?
Staying at the Renaissance.
1. how is the action in the lobby? And what is the cost to take them upstairs.
Good on weekends, never took because it's a risk since they can do whatever and leave, at least the boite girls have some quality control.
Hello Hobbying, remember me? We met at Scandallo. Do you mean you don't trust girls picked up at the hotel lobby? You mean they could for example kick in your in-room safe and leave with your money and credit cards? I'm very safety conscious in Brazil. Safety is the limiting factor in a country like Brazil.
P.S. I Read that in-room safe open themselves if hit hard. It is a well-know fact in Thailand (although in Thailand the risk is minimal due to the prevailing anti-crime culture). I'll be in SP between mid May and end of June. Let's meet at Scandallo again one afternoon.
4. where are the Cambio's near by to this hotel? I saw 2 of them on google and both of them are 20 minutes by walk..I've visited a hand full cambio's in Sao Paulo and felt the vast majority of them offer really crappy exchange rates. My go to spot is in the shopping mall across the street from the ibirapeura bourbon hotel in Moema. There is a money changer on the third or fourth floor that offers decent exchange rates. Changing money in Sao Paulo is not difficult but finding a fair exchange rate is a total hassle. Ymmv.
The Ren lobby girls are in the same range as Scandello for pernoite. IME, the hotel tries to be strict about registering them. While it's possible to quickly blow by the desk on the way to the elevator, I've had clerks chase me down and ask to register the girl. I'm generally in favor of going with the flow and registering the girl. As far as safety goes, they're as safe as any other GDP you would bring to the room, if not safer because they probably want to continue working the bar. I have no doubt that if a girl starts to get complaints, she won't be allowed to work the bar.
Vagabundo1
04-19-22, 15:39
Carry a concealed gun and a GoPro on a lanyard around your neck and a Velcro patch for Rio civil police, policia civil.
Staying at the Renaissance.
1. how is the action in the lobby? And what is the cost to take them upstairs.
Good on weekends, never took because it's a risk since they can do whatever and leave, at least the boite girls have some quality control.
2. booked double beds and it allowed max 3 guests and I have booked it. I have organized a 3 some from seeking. Will it be an issue to take 2 of them?
No they don't check anymore.
3. does the hotel generally ask the girls to register?
You can for your own safety.
4. where are the Cambio's near by to this hotel? I saw 2 of them on google and both of them are 20 minutes by walk.
Go to ATM on av Paulista..
Axel Heyst
04-19-22, 17:55
Reunion Weekend Part 1: Friday & Saturday Night.
My trip is starting out better than I imagined. I already posted about the attractive blond girl I met at Bomboa Thursday night. This is what followed the next 2 nights.
Good Friday rolled around and Michelle my wild Indigenous Scandallo girl came over. We drank wine, smoked a little weed, and had sex in multiple, multiple positions all over the hotel suite, on the sofa, standing up against the wall, on the desk, on a chair, on pillows that she threw on the carpet, and yes even on the bed. What a gal! What amazing sex drive. She was insatiable. I tried to hold my own and think I did a pretty good job of it. KKK. Afterwards we went to Margherita Pizzeria for dinner. The place was packed, but they found us a great table by the windows.
Saturday night Vanessa, a full figured, very attractive, Italian blond girl that I met in Bomboa last trip was supposed to come over. But something came up (party party), and she asked if minded if she could come over on Sunday night instead. I said OK, no problem. So, I immediately texted Paola my slender, dark haired, Italian Brazilian spinner that I met in Scandallo last trip and asked her if we might move our date up from Sunday to Saturday night. She said it was fine with her, but that she was planning to go to Scandallo and would I mind meeting her there. I had thought Scandallo was closed on this Saturday, but she was right.
So it sounded like a good idea because I was anxious to go back to Scandallo anyway, and we agreed to meet there at around 8 pm. I showed up at 8:30 and the place was only at around 30% capacity. All the bars were open, so I walked thru the large entertainment bar and into the courtyard bar. There were maybe 30 to 40 girls present in the whole place. I sat down at the courtyard bar and ordered a vodka on the rocks. Seconds later Paola walked into the courtyard wearing a sexy very light dress. She walked up to me at the bar with a big smile and we kissed. She was lovely. I offered her a drink, but all she wanted was a bottle of water. It was chilly out and I could see she was shivering, so we moved inside to a dark corner of the atrium where it was warm, and we had some privacy. We kissed and touched each other all over and I remembered just how sweet and tender she is. I finished my drink, and we went upstairs.
It was a GFE reunion in the room. We kissed and held each other close for like 20 minutes. Then slowly we started to disrobe. We fooled around in the shower and dried each other off. Back by the bed Paola knelt and blew me while I stood and then we moved onto the bed and more kissing while she held my dick in her small hand. She went downtown on me again and then I went downtown on her. Her pussy tasted very fresh and good. I took my time on her and she became very wet and started moaning softly. She clamped her thighs around my head and came.
I moved up between her legs and almost scored a goal, but at the last second, she asked for a condom. She laughed when I gave her one of me Sagami's remembering our history. She put it on with her mouth and we got down to business in sitting up cowgirl. After a while I pulled her down close, so she was laying on me and we kissed as we shagged. Then I flipped her over onto her back without falling out of her pussy and we proceeded in mish.
I don't know about the time, but 40 minutes must have elapsed and I thought the only way I was going to cum was if I hammered her hard which I was not into doing. So, I pulled out and we laid side by side. She felt my dick and knew I had not cum. We kissed and held each other close as she continued to hold my dick in her small hand. I don't quite get the magic holding my dick in her little hand, but I got super hard again, and she got back on top. This time I held her real tight and could feel her pussy at the far end of my dick. Soon thereafter I came.
We took our time recovering and we even took a few selfies of each other in post coital embrace. Then we showered and dressed. I had a wonderful time with her. She is such an adorable girl. I am sure I will see her many times before I leave SP. She is just my type of girl. We kissed goodbye in the stairwell and then she went to the lady's locker room, and I went back up to the bars. I did not see her again later, so I think she went home.
It was now around 11 pm and the place was still less than half filled with girls and customers. I did not mind. It gave me more room to scout out some girls for future trysts. There were only 40 girls more or less present, but still quite a few lookers and every girl there was really friendly. I sat in the entertainment bar and ordered another vodka. A couple of good-looking girls came over to see what was up, but I was not yet ready for another round so, I told the girls another time.
It felt great to back in Scandallo even on a low-keyed holiday night like this. I imagine it might be this way until Carnival ends, but that don't faze me one bit because there were still plenty of quality girls to choose from. I went to Bomboa yesterday night (Monday) and it two was at 30%, but I found a great one and afterward spotted another that I think I will get around to eventually. So the holidays are actually a buyers market.
I think I will end this post here. The Paola chapter ran a little longer than I anticipated. I guess I am really fond of that little girl. Anyway, I will post on Easter Sunday night with Vanessa, and Monday night back at Bomboa with Thais and tonight's adventure with Yumi. The good times keep on rolling. It is great to be back in SP.
I've visited a hand full cambio's in Sao Paulo and felt the vast majority of them offer really crappy exchange rates. My go to spot is in the shopping mall across the street from the ibirapeura bourbon hotel in Moema. There is a money changer on the third or fourth floor that offers decent exchange rates. Changing money in Sao Paulo is not difficult but finding a fair exchange rate is a total hassle. Ymmv.I presume you are speaking of the Shopping Ibirapuera mall. I have found the currency exchange there generally has better rates than the Jardim Paulista area where many visitors stay.
Hello Hobbying, remember me? We met at Scandallo. Do you mean you don't trust girls picked up at the hotel lobby? You mean they could for example kick in your in-room safe and leave with your money and credit cards? I'm very safety conscious in Brazil. Safety is the limiting factor in a country like Brazil.
P.S. I Read that in-room safe open themselves if hit hard. It is a well-know fact in Thailand (although in Thailand the risk is minimal due to the prevailing anti-crime culture). I'll be in SP between mid May and end of June. Let's meet at Scandallo again one afternoon.The girl can do whatever or do nothing and leave like any street walker. Not about getting robbed but getting ripped off.
Carry a concealed gun and a GoPro on a lanyard around your neck and a Velcro patch for Rio civil police, policia civil.Funny guy.
The Ren lobby girls are in the same range as Scandello for pernoite. IME, the hotel tries to be strict about registering them. While it's possible to quickly blow by the desk on the way to the elevator, I've had clerks chase me down and ask to register the girl. I'm generally in favor of going with the flow and registering the girl. As far as safety goes, they're as safe as any other GDP you would bring to the room, if not safer because they probably want to continue working the bar. I have no doubt that if a girl starts to get complaints, she won't be allowed to work the bar.Lets be real, hotel guest will go to the front desk and say I met the hooker at the bar and she ripped me off?
Lets be real, hotel guest will go to the front desk and say I met the hooker at the bar and she ripped me off?I would, without hesitation, if she was registered to my room. Prostitution is legal in Brazil. First, I would word it a bit more diplomatically. Second, desk clerks have seen it all and they're trained, especially at a higher end hotel like the Ren, to also be discreet about the situation.
No honking. It's so weird to be in a third world country with all the people driving on the roads and nobody honking at each other. There must be some type of law. Anyways I can appreciate it.
The people here have a very European look. It reminds me a lot of Buenos Aires. People that I think are American, are definitely not American.
Women here have amazing skin. Definitely different than the dirty Dominicans and the skanky Colombians. They actually take care of themselves. It's nice.
The women here will drink. All of my dates have been moderate to heavy drinkers. So different than the Dominican republic.
The women love ass play. Whether it's your ass or their ass. It's all on the table.
Tinder is definitely not for prostitution here. It's really weird. It actually takes work. And chicks are looking for nice normal dates.
The seeking women love to spend the night. All have or have wanted to with me. Not sure why. Maybe they think they can make some extra money. But it seems to be the standard.
The Brazilian pussies are nice and wet all the time. And they are very well defined. Think nice healthy pussy lips and not a small coin slot.
Ifood is the popular food delivery app but you have to have a Brazilian phone number and ID to register. I never figured it out. My buddy did by using a chicas CPF / ID number.
Women will say they live in Sao Paolo and they live two, four, six hours away. Probably best to make that clear when using apps / seeking.
And if you don't understand Spanish, you sure as hell will not understand Portuguese. Nothing is in English or Spanish. It's Portuguese or Portuguese.
Expect slow ass service everywhere you go.
Condom use is a mixed bag. Definitely not as free as the DR or Colombia.
Food is very good. No stomach problems for the 16 days.
Lushroom clinica was a good experience. 360 K for the room. 200 K for sex. Nice set up. Clean, organized, some English speaking girls. You view them on an ipad.
Ubers and cancelling is a damn joke. Why?
Banana cafe. High end talent. Great place to sit and just enjoy the scenery with drinks. Its in Itaim Bibi.
Scandallo. We went 3 times. Girls want 1500 or 1000 but I had one go down to 500. Rooms were clean. Drinks were crazy expensive. Best nights are Tue-Wed-Thur. Noticeable difference.
Foto cafe. Went once. Super slow. Not much energy.
Lotus club. Tried to go but it was too early. Door man was a clown.
Bahamas Hotel Club. On the bucket list. Heard its like another Scandallo and that its the only club open on Sundays.
Off to Rio!
Cheers.
Taco.
I've visited a hand full cambio's in Sao Paulo and felt the vast majority of them offer really crappy exchange rates. My go to spot is in the shopping mall across the street from the ibirapeura bourbon hotel in Moema. There is a money changer on the third or fourth floor that offers decent exchange rates. Changing money in Sao Paulo is not difficult but finding a fair exchange rate is a total hassle. Ymmv.I would recommend using ATM. Get either Charles Schwab or cap1 360. There is no foreign transaction fee. They don't charge a fee for using international ATM. Charles Schwab will reimburse the fee the ATM charges. And banks usually have the best exchange rate.
Landed in SP and checked into the Renaissance. It is packed. Like 95% booked with people everywhere. Glad to see them coming back after the whole COVID crisis.
The girl from Recife shows up but she is dead tired and wants to take a nap for a few hours. So, I leave her and go run some errands. The other girl finally sends her test results and she agrees to be at the hotel by 6/630 pm. Everything is set. Or so I thought.
It is now 630 and we get ready for dinner. The other girl still hasn't texted about her arrival. So, I am like fuck it. Let go on. She finally texts around 715 pm saying she fell asleep and is now getting ready to come over but is going to be late. So I cancel the dinner reservation and instead choose margarita pizzeria. Third girl finally shows up around 815 pm and I take one look at her and my gut knows this is going to a shit show. But thinking. Let's give it a chance.
Some background. The girl from Recife is a girls girl. Well manicured and dressed and prefers her girls the same way. This one is the exact opposite. She looks uncomfortable in her own skin. A bit awkward. She doesn't know how to carry herself. There is a one year difference between them.
We go to dinner and they are getting to know each other and I am paying attention to the chemistry which there doesn't seem to be any and I know that this isn't going to work. The third girl goes to the bathroom a few times and then we decide to go a bar called Tulum. At the bar, The girl from Recife tells me that she thinks the other girl is on coke and isn't comfortable with her. She told me to see her nose after she comes as she saw a bunch of white around her nose. So, I wait for her to come back from the bathroom and sure enough she does. So I tell Recife that to deal with her in the nicest way possible.
They both go to the bathroom and the other girl has agreed with our decision to not involve her. But her bag and stuff is in my room and I don't want her taking an Uber to get her bag out of the room and leave on her own. So we stay for a few more hours just drinking and checking out the scene. Leave around 1 am. Get to the hotel and she grabs her stuff and leaves after I pay her for her time. 500 plus 200 for the test. Could I have paid her nothing. Yes but Recife prefers that we pay her for her time and send her without any bad feelings. Karma and shit like that.
One positive thing. This is the first time Recife I have had sex together by ourselves. The first time we met, there were three girls and me. The second time was her and a friend who just sat next to us in bed and was on her phone while we fucked. This time it was just us. And what an awesome experience. She was totally involved and came at least three times while I ate her out. I lasted a good 15 minutes fucking her and she came a few more times. A lot of kissing and I finally CIP and we lay together. It was probably one of the best fucks I have had in Brazil.
She says she is going to find a girl at the bar we go to tonight but I don't know if I am into that right now. If we keep having sex like this, I don't need a distraction 😜.
EverythingBlue
04-22-22, 17:56
Landed in SP and checked into the Renaissance. It is packed. Like 95% booked with people everywhere. Glad to see them coming back after the whole COVID crisis.
The girl from Recife shows up but she is dead tired and wants to take a nap for a few hours. So, I leave her and go run some errands. The other girl finally sends her test results and she agrees to be at the hotel by 6/630 pm. Everything is set. Or so I thought.
It is now 630 and we get ready for dinner. The other girl still hasn't texted about her arrival. So, I am like fuck it. Let go on. She finally texts around 715 pm saying she fell asleep and is now getting ready to come over but is going to be late. So I cancel the dinner reservation and instead choose margarita pizzeria. Third girl finally shows up around 815 pm and I take one look at her and my gut knows this is going to a shit show. But thinking. Let's give it a chance.
Some background. The girl from Recife is a girls girl. Well manicured and dressed and prefers her girls the same way. This one is the exact opposite. She looks uncomfortable in her own skin. A bit awkward. She doesn't know how to carry herself. There is a one year difference between them.
We go to dinner and they are getting to know each other and I am paying attention to the chemistry which there doesn't seem to be any and I know that this isn't going to work. The third girl goes to the bathroom a few times and then we decide to go a bar called Tulum. At the bar, The girl from Recife tells me that she thinks the other girl is on coke and isn't comfortable with her. She told me to see her nose after she comes as she saw a bunch of white around her nose. So, I wait for her to come back from the bathroom and sure enough she does. So I tell Recife that to deal with her in the nicest way possible.
They both go to the bathroom and the other girl has agreed with our decision to not involve her. But her bag and stuff is in my room and I don't want her taking an Uber to get her bag out of the room and leave on her own. So we stay for a few more hours just drinking and checking out the scene. Leave around 1 am. Get to the hotel and she grabs her stuff and leaves after I pay her for her time. 500 plus 200 for the test. Could I have paid her nothing. Yes but Recife prefers that we pay her for her time and send her without any bad feelings. Karma and shit like that.
One positive thing. This is the first time Recife I have had sex together by ourselves. The first time we met, there were three girls and me. The second time was her and a friend who just sat next to us in bed and was on her phone while we fucked. This time it was just us. And what an awesome experience. She was totally involved and came at least three times while I ate her out. I lasted a good 15 minutes fucking her and she came a few more times. A lot of kissing and I finally CIP and we lay together. It was probably one of the best fucks I have had in Brazil.
She says she is going to find a girl at the bar we go to tonight but I don't know if I am into that right now. If we keep having sex like this, I don't need a distraction 😜.Nice update! I'm glad to hear the Renaissance is still the place to stay.
That's a good call on sending the other girl away, sometimes we get emotionally attached to paying in exchange for services only, but got to keep in mind that what counts is the experience, good or bad, so if you can control the outcome let it be good!
I hope you can find another candidate, still curious to know if the butt to kitty experiment will go down LOL. And enjoy your CIP experiences, for some reason I've been stuck on wanting to do this with girls I see, is it a fetish? I don't know, but finishing in the bag or even outside seems so unappealing to me right now.
Just a quick update on the boates during easter / carnival weeks.
Did go out every day this week so far. Cafe Photo on Wednesday was a bit slower than usual. Still, the new place is not as busy compared to the old one pre-covid, also lacks quality sometimes.
Scandallo business as usual. Could not see any difference to normal times. Quite a few girls talking about traveling on the weekend though. Will go again tonight. Sometimes slower nights are even better as ratios are more in our favor. Regarding prices, while 1000 BRL was the standard going rate for take-out, it now requires a bit of negotiating. Girls starting at 1500 or some even asking for crazy 2-3 k.
Axel Heyst
04-22-22, 21:14
Guys,
So much has been happening since I arrived in SP last Thursday. All great, but too much for me to post. I am getting bogged down on my reportage.
To sum up, however, I spent Easter weekend catching up with 3 favorites from my previous trips. I also met a few new sexy blond friends in Scandallo and Bomboa. The sex was fantastic as always down here.
Monday night I met a blond in Bomboa, Thais, and had a real good time with her that ended with CIM.
But Tuesday night was stupendous! I already know it is going to be in my top 5 nights of 2022. The evening started on a low point when Paula, my Sexy Revista cover girl, kept me waiting for over 90 minutes. It is not as bad as it sounds because I had nothing else to do at the time, but when 8:30 rolled around and Paula was still not in an Uber and heading over I pulled the plug on her and ordered up an Uber to take me to Scandallo. I texted Paula while in the Uber. She seemed genuinely surprised that I had cancelled on her and she apologized for her delay. I wasn't mad. I just told her I was sorry we could not get together, and we could talk about it tomorrow.
So, I arrived at Scandallo a little before 9 pm and the place had around 25% the normal number of girls. No big deal because there were still plenty pf lookers around. In a weird way the holiday situation is a buyers' market because there are so few men on hand.
Anyway, I was walking thru the big entertainment bar when I ran into Sheila, one of my favorite favorite girls from my last trip. We had lost touch in February. So, I was happy to run into her unexpected like. And she was happy to see me too. So, we kissed and marveled at running into each other and she explained that she had lost her phone which is how our connection had been broken.
Sheila and I then walked hand in hand to the courtyard bar and found a table in the back. I ordered our favorite; a bottle of red wine and we are two happy campers hugging, touching, and kissing. But then Sheila introduces me to her BFF. I forgot her name, so I will just call her new girl. Anyway, new girl is a hot spinner, brown hair, pale white skin, small, but lovely breasts. I was attracted to her. The wine comes and I get another glass for new girl.
So, we drink, we laugh, I make out with Sheila and then Sheila tells new girl I have a large dick. New girl starts to massage my groin and I am instantly hard. Then both girls are massaging my dick and commenting on it's ampleness. It was all pretty silly, but I was having a good time.
New girl gets up to go to the powder room and when she leaves, Sheila asks if I like her and I say I do. Then Sheila suggests I take both of them upstairs. I tell Sheila that it is a tempting offer, but I don't want anything to change OUR relationship. But Sheila assures me OUR relationship is rock solid and that next time she wants to come to my hotel and spend the night. So, I say how much? And Sheila says just 500 & 500 like it is nothing although it is an honest Scandallo price. Anyway, to make the final sale she repeats that new girl is her very best friend and she says I will have a great time with the two of them. OK. So new girl comes back to our table and Sheila tells her the good news and the girls give me a 3 way French kiss and both are messing around with my junk down below to seal the deal.
We finish the wine and hand in hand the 3 of us get a room. In the room we drink a little more, smoke a little something, and then get down to some real bisexual action.
So many wonderful, funny, sexy, great things happened in the next 90 minutes. I can't get it all down on paper although I will try later. It was just one of my best menage a trois nights ever!
Two highlights that stand out and that will give you guys an idea of what the fuck I am talking about: The first highlight is in sort of the beginning with the girls simultaneously blowing me and French kissing each other. It was superb. The second great highlight occurred later on when Sheila was on her back with her legs wide open and new girl and I were in between Sheila's legs simultaneously licking Sheila's pussy and making out. It went like this: I would go all the way in with my tongue, come out, French kiss new girl, and then new girl would go all the way down on Sheila and then we kept repeating this cycle for I don't know how long. It was fanfuckingtastic! And of course, Sheila as off in another world enjoying what new girl and I were doing to her.
All in all, it was a very memorable 90 minutes. We went through 5 condoms, but I hardly noticed the changes because one of the girls always kept me occupied while the other took care of the condom situation. Anyway, the night ranks as one of my favorite 3 ways of all time.
But onward and upward. This was only my 5th night in town. I have until the end of May for more naughty entertainment. Sky is the limit. I have said it before, and I will say it again now: Brazilian girls are among the best girls in the world in bed! And they look pretty damn sexy out of bed.
Axel Heyst
04-22-22, 21:19
Last night (Thursday night) was a slow night at Scandallo. They did not open the large entertainment bar and outside patio bar until 10. Nonetheless there were a handful of beauties, I mean real nice looking girls hanging about. One slender, elegant stunner really caught my eye, but she was eating some ice cream at the small desert bar outside of the restaurant bar and I thought I would let her finish her snack before approaching.
But we were never to meet, at least not this night, because as soon as management opened up the patio bar, I bumped into Manni, my wild indigenous girl. Even though I had just seen her 6 nights ago, I could not resist her smile and her charms.
We had drinks and fooled around a little in the middle of the courtyard. She discretely rubbed my dick in front of everyone without their noticing. Up in the room we smoked a little and I ordered more drinks. Then it was non-stop sex for 90 minutes or longer. I don't know what it is about this girl, but she really knows how to turn me on. We fucked all over the bed and standing up too. I shagged every hole she has and she made me cum 3 times! She came twice.
Afterwards we went down to the dining room and had dinner. Then it was time to say goodnight, but not before we made plans to hook up again at my hotel on Sunday. She went back to her business and I looked around the place for future possibilities. Back in the courtyard bar I ran into new girl, Sheila's BFF and I bought her a beer and a vodka on the rocks for me. We talked, she looked good, but I was not ready for another session just yet. Ha Ha.
I roamed around a little more after saying goodbye to new girl and I did not see the stunner from earlier in the night who had been eating ice cream. Oh well. Maybe I will run into her on another night.
I ubered back to the Renaissance hotel. It was around 1 am when I got there. I went outside to where they have benches in a garden like setting to smoke a Cohiba. Already sitting on a bench was this branca stunner! She looked amazing. So good, in fact, that I was not sure if she was a hooker or hotel guest. So I was the perfect gentleman. Her lighter was not working so I gave her mine. She lit up her fag and then I lit up my Cohiba. Then we started talking. She spoke university quality English and seemed vey intelligent. No shit!
OK, after discussing what I was doing in SP (business trip ha ha) and her favorite literature and that she is writing her autobiography, she got around to what she was doing at the Renaissance at 1 am. Now I have stayed at the SP Renaissance 3 times now and I am very familiar with the quality of the hotel's FL hookers that are allowed to do business in the lobby bar. I like them and have chatted with a couple late at night like tonight. But they have all been sub Scandallo quality and I have never seen one with Marina's looks and class. She was something. But Manni had really drained me good, so I knew I could not do justice to Marina tonight. So, I held back and did not make a move on her, but our interesting conversation continued.
Then Marina's GF arrived and I was introduced. I lit a fag for the GF and the three of us continued to talk. Then Marina whipped out something interesting and we smoked that. It was a very pleasant evening scene. Before I took my leave of the girls, Marina gave me her business card and I told her I would call her. I am thinking maybe a Saturday night get together, but I will have to see how I feel and what I am in the mood for. We never discussed money so that is something too.
Anyway, it was another wonderful night in SP. My only critique of what I am doing is that so far I have not done one new girl in Scandallo except for Sheila's BFF. I know I have to work on this. Ha Ha.
Meanwhile, tonight I am heading back to Bomboa. There are 2 new girls there that I only had brief conversations with and I want to hook up with one of them tonight, but anything can happen and usually will when you go to your favorite boates.
Friday morning and afternoon pass uneventfully with Recife and me. We grab "food by the kilo" lunch as I was craving the Brazilian style meal and head back to the hotel to get some rest before tonight. Back at the hotel, we have another long session which ends with CIP and she and I are thoroughly satisfied.
As we are getting ready for the evening meal at Nakka Jardins, she says that she wants to invite a friend who stays in SP and who she has been wanting to taste. So, she invites her and we meet at the restaurant. This friend of hers is married to a much older guy who lives here part time and part time in Europe. She is 25 yrs old and no kids. Recife tells me that she is going to try and seduce her and let's see how the night goes. I was like. Cool. Let it play out. During dinner, they drink an entire bottle of wine and are having a good time so we decided to go to a bar near us. At the bar, both are dacing with each other but nothing sexual so I am thinking that this girl will leave at the end of the night and that is that. We leave the bar at 1230 and we are drunk and hungry. So stop by for a pizza at margharita pizzeria and then head back home.
In the room, the girl wants to take a shower so she gets naked and jumps in the shower and I am like. This is going to happen but I don't have any condoms. I then hop in the shower and get into the bed. Recife then goes to take a shower and the new girl just decides to jump on top of the bed and starts making out with me. Soon enough we are getting hot and heavy and I go down on her and she is getting close to climax. She pulls me towards her to kiss, pulls my shorts down and puts my dick inside her. I am banging her while Recife is throwing up in the bathroom as she drank too much. After approx a good 15 minutes, I end up CIP and we clean up.
Now, Recife has cleaned up and wants her friend. So she gets into bed and start eating her out and this girl is back arching moaning and squeezing my hand and pushing my mouth on her nipples. This goes on for a bit and Recife gets on top and dry jumps her till she comes. Then, she moves over to me, start a BJ and her friend sits on top of my face while they take turns making out and giving me a BJ. Recife then climbs on top and starts riding till she she comes and she is exhausted. I am still hard so the new girl then decided that she wants more dick and climbs on top. Woohoo. Interchange happens and I fuck her till I finish CIP. Three of us fall asleep till morning.
Wake up today, eat breakfast and they decide to go to her salon to get done for the afternoon where we will be eating at fogo do chao and day drinking. She has decided to stay till Sunday afternoon with us. No charge as she enjoys time with Recife and the dinner and drinks.
Brazilian women are just fucking awesome!!
Vagabundo1
04-23-22, 17:15
Much as I like Cariocas, I must point out that the all time favorite Carioca worked in a SP prive, Miruna, until the owner wifed her up and gave her her own prive. She was hotter than any girl at Scandallo, and I like Moema much better for the safety and scenery in the 'hood.
Just look up Kamila Werneck, a Carioca native.
This is like saying I prefer Bud over Heinekein, which are fighting words in some bars and chatrooms, I hear.
Nice update! I'm glad to hear the Renaissance is still the place to stay.
That's a good call on sending the other girl away, sometimes we get emotionally attached to paying in exchange for services only, but got to keep in mind that what counts is the experience, good or bad, so if you can control the outcome let it be good!
I hope you can find another candidate, still curious to know if the butt to kitty experiment will go down LOL. And enjoy your CIP experiences, for some reason I've been stuck on wanting to do this with girls I see, is it a fetish? I don't know, but finishing in the bag or even outside seems so unappealing to me right now.I like the feeling of being able to CIP and I think it will be part of my normal routine. Just having the freedom becomes addicting.
AH — great reports. Enjoy your time in SP!!
Vagabundo1
04-23-22, 19:27
https://www.boafoda.com/videos/45305/kamilla-weneck-estudante-brasileira-tesuda.html
Putting your dick in her is why God created Brazilian women and proof God is Brazilian, not Argentinian.
Much as I like Cariocas, I must point out that the all time favorite Carioca worked in a SP prive, Miruna, until the owner wifed her up and gave her her own prive. She was hotter than any girl at Scandallo, and I like Moema much better for the safety and scenery in the 'hood.
Just look up Kamila Werneck, a Carioca native.
This is like saying I prefer Bud over Heinekein, which are fighting words in some bars and chatrooms, I hear.
The evening started on a low point when Paula, my Sexy Revista cover girl, kept me waiting for over 90 minutes. It is not as bad as it sounds because I had nothing else to do at the time, but when 8:30 rolled around and Paula was still not in an Uber and heading over I pulled the plug on her and ordered up an Uber to take me to Scandallo. I texted Paula while in the Uber. She seemed genuinely surprised that I had cancelled on her and she apologized for her delay. I wasn't mad. I just told her I was sorry we could not get together, and we could talk about it tomorrow.Axel, please don't read this comment as a criticism of you. It is not.
As I read your Revista cover girl kept you waiting for over 90 minutes and wasn't in the Uber so you cancelled, I started to think that was harsh. The funny thing is if that happened anywhere else in the world I would think what is her problem. With Brazilian garotas, I just expect this kind of crazy tardiness.
Don't feel like you were harsh. She was probably with a client and called another when you cancelled.
The girls wake up hungover on Saturday and we rush to get breakfast to cure the hangover. Then they decide to head to the salon that her friend owns and we meet at Fogo do Chao for lunch and lots of drinks.
Head back to the hotel to play around some more. Recife starts with me while the other girl is getting changed and then she joins by eating out Recife. Switch positions and the other girl is giving me a BBJ while I am eating out Recife. Recife has her first orgasm while I am down there and tells me to fuck her. So, I oblige while she is tasting her friend who is now moaning and writhing like crazy. So, I look at her friend and she smiles at me and tells me to put it in her and of course I oblige. Always willing to please. This goes on a for a few times with each girl wanting to get pounded a bit longer than the last one. There is so much going on that as I get ready to come, Recife tells me that she wants me to finish inside her as she is also getting ready to come. I am just pounding her till I finally come inside her and as I slow down she tightens her hold on me and gives a long shiver. She is done and we just lay in each other's arms. Exhausted and slightly sweaty.
Time for a nap and then dinner. Dinner is at 830 pm and after dinner is done, we head back to the room. While walking in, there is a girl sitting at the bar who catches my eye. So, I make an excuse to come back down to the lobby to get her number and see if I can set up something for Sunday afternoon as the girls are going to leave after breakfast. I walk up to the girl, ask her name and get her number. She asks where I am from and I am like. Shit. She is going to charge me the gringo price and I was right. More later. I told her I would text her in the am and we leave it at that. Head back to the room and I just want to fuck Recife and bust a nut and then go to sleep and we do exactly that. Another nut busted and we sleep around 1 am satisfied.
Unfortunately, neither girl does anal so that part of the dream is still hanging on. And that itch needs to be scratched before I head back home.
Axel Heyst
04-24-22, 22:23
Axel, please don't read this comment as a criticism of you. It is not.
As I read your Revista cover girl kept you waiting for over 90 minutes and wasn't in the Uber so you cancelled, I started to think that was harsh. The funny thing is if that happened anywhere else in the world I would think what is her problem. With Brazilian garotas, I just expect this kind of crazy tardiness.
Don't feel like you were harsh. She was probably with a client and called another when you cancelled.No problems mate. I don't think I was harsh. Paula and I have a history. She has never been late before. We had set up this date a day prior. On the day of our planned get together we casually texted each other several times up to 6:15 pm and everything seemed fine. I texted her again at 7:15 and she said she was getting ready and would leave her apartment soon. I don't know what went on at her place. Frankly I did not think of another customer. I thought her delay might have something to do with her son or something. What she should have done when she knew she was going to be 90 minutes late to our party was to ask me if we could meet later like at 10 pm and give me the option to say yes or no.
Anyway, I waited patiently until 8:15 and then said to myself, fuck it. It was around 8:30 (90 minutes late) when I texted her from an Uber and told her the date was off. She seemed genuinely surprised, but not mad. Neither of us were mad. It was just not to be that night for whatever reasons. I have no regrets because I hooked up with Sheila and her bisexual bff that night instead.
I might call Paula again while I am still in SP. I am going to be in town for another 5. 5 weeks. She is a smokin' hot girl and I like her. But the thing is there are a lot of Paulas out there. Ha ha. So, it is hard to say when I will get back to her. But regardless of when, I don't think she will leave me hanging 90 minutes again. I could be wrong.
RandomPilot
04-25-22, 05:12
What is the average age of the people in Scandallo? I'm mid 20's just wondering if I would be out of place there? I didn't see anything about a dress code but the pictures I've seen people look pretty dressed up, is there a dress code? Is it similar to a FKK but just fancier? I tried to search for this question here but I don't know how to search for two words.
What is the average age of the people in Scandallo? I'm mid 20's just wondering if I would be out of place there? I didn't see anything about a dress code but the pictures I've seen people look pretty dressed up, is there a dress code? Is it similar to a FKK but just fancier? I tried to search for this question here but I don't know how to search for two words.It's pretty much like any other club. You'll find all kinds of guys of various age groups 18 to 70's and some wearing suits and others in t shirts and jeans. You don't want to look like you just rolled out of bed or heading to the gym. Pretty standard stuff.
Sunday morning was a rush to get the breakfast out of the way as the girls were leaving after breakfast. I was kind of relived to see the other go but not Recife. For some reason, I click with her better than other girls. Might be due to her past experience or her ability to be so chill and laid back. She also was recently in England and that opened her eyes. She just provided a much better GFE than the others I have been with.
But. My anal itch hadn't been scratched yet so I texted Leticia from the bar last night. She agreed to do anal and finish in mouth but her hourly charge was 2000 and I started laughing on the text. I told her that I spent 4000 for a full weekend including flight to being Recife down. She has to be kidding. Her answer is that she works in hotels and that is the rate she gets. I told her bye politely and she was a little pissed. She said that other people from other countries pay the price. So maybe I am just being a cheapskate. I said. Sure. And moved on. No point in discussing the matter further. I even texted a few on PA including the one I had last time who was busy till Monday and the others were too late in texting back or didn't reply. Maybe end of carnival weekend and they want to rest on Sunday. So. The itch hasn't been scratched and will have to wait till my next trip down.
Few things I noticed:
1. Hotel doesn't really check how many guests you have. I registered two the first night and they charged me 350 r for the third guest but I took her off after the first night and they didn't charge for the new girl we bought in. There wasn't a charge for her breakfast for two days either.
2. The girls at the hotel bar are a hit or miss and for mongers like us. Mostly a miss. They are good for those that don't want to venture outside of their hotel. A lot of people are like that. They have heard of how dangerous it is and just refuse to leave. But you will pay the price for not knowing the market rates.
3. Hotel was fully packed due to carnival weekend and by Sunday it was pretty empty. No masks anywhere and the breakfast downstairs was in full swing which makes me happy. The lounge was open and back to its normal self. Glad to see things coming back to normal.
4. Walked Avenida Paulista on Sunday and it was a full on party. Street vendors, drinks, band playing and people dancing in the street. I spent a few hours just going up and down.
Anyway. Another great weekend in São Paulo and now back to my regular life at home which I enjoy since it makes weekends like these more interesting.
Axel Heyst
04-25-22, 17:09
Anaggie, was Leticia wearing a white dress when you met her in the lobby bar Saturday night?
My anal itch hadn't been scratched yet so I texted Leticia from the bar last night. She agreed to do anal and finish in mouth but her hourly charge was 2000 and I started laughing on the text. You were right not to even negotiate with Leticia. Either she is out of her mind or certain Renaissance guests are out of their mind. Either way I can't imagine her being a very busy girl. I guess from her perspective less is more or she is out fishing for a bigger catch than you or me.
Anyway, I had a very pleasant Saturday night. I had a GFE time with Vanessa. It was our 2nd get together since I arrived back in town. After boom boom, I took her to Figueira Rubaiyat where we had more drinks and a romantic dinner. Around midnight I said bye bye to Vanessa and put her in an Uber.
I wandered over to the bench area outside the Rennaissance lobby to smoke a Cubano. A few minutes later this attractive REN freelance bar girl came out and sat on the bench next to mine. I nodded Hello, but continued to mind my own business, expecting that the girl would make her pitch at some point.
The girl was definitely sexy, however, so I am just wondering if this is the Leticia that you met at the Ren bar Saturday night. The girl sitting opposite me was wearing a low cut white dress that showed off her breasts in a beautiful way. In addition, her dress had a long slit along the left side that reveled all of the girl's leg and thigh while she sat.
I continued smoking my Cubana and I was just enjoying the balmy night before calling it a night. The girl was absorbed with something on her cell phone and she ignored me. I was almost finished with my cigar when she began laughing at something she was viewing on her phone. I said something like, what is so funny? And she looked up and said, "Portuguese" in what I interpreted as an abrupt manner. I was not going to take her upstairs no matter what, but I found our brief moments together somewhat amusing.
I was mongering in SP about 5 years ago, took a new job that kept me away, then Covid hit. But things have changed and I am getting to SP a few times a month now.
Will have some reports up soon, mainly about photoacompanhantes, and my experience / advice on that site.
It's good to be back.
Lonny.
Much as I like Cariocas, I must point out that the all time favorite Carioca worked in a SP prive, Miruna, until the owner wifed her up and gave her her own prive. She was hotter than any girl at Scandallo, and I like Moema much better for the safety and scenery in the 'hood.
Just look up Kamila Werneck, a Carioca native.
This is like saying I prefer Bud over Heinekein, which are fighting words in some bars and chatrooms, I hear.Miruna was the first cliníca I went to when I was coming to SP, I assume it is closed now. Like Café Foto is and most of my other haunts. Really looking fwd to getting to know SP again after over 5 years away.
Lonnie.
Yup. This is what happens when all of these newbs who don't negotiate and just accepts anything these girls say. That price is already hitting Scandallo.
But. My anal itch hadn't been scratched yet so I texted Leticia from the bar last night. She agreed to do anal and finish in mouth but her hourly charge was 2000 and I started laughing on the text. I told her that I spent 4000 for a full weekend including flight to being Recife down. She has to be kidding. Her answer is that she works in hotels and that is the rate she gets. I told her bye politely and she was a little pissed. She said that other people from other countries pay the price. So maybe I am just being a cheapskate. I said. Sure. And moved on. No point in discussing the matter further.
Vagabundo1
04-26-22, 02:31
I am pretty sure Miruna is still open.
JimmyBoy could confirm, as he is in SP now.
Miruna was the first clinca I went to when I was coming to SP, I assume it is closed now. Like Caf Foto is and most of my other haunts. Really looking fwd to getting to know SP again after over 5 years away..
Jimmy Boy 99
04-26-22, 04:24
I am pretty sure Miruna is still open.
JimmyBoy could confirm, as he is in SP now.Yes, Miruna is open, as are almost all the other clinicas, priives, and boates.
Hi guys,
I'll be making my first trip ever to Brazil next week and will mostly be seeing independent girls off photoacompanhantes. The biggest questions I have is, how safe is it to go to a girls incall / apartment? I also welcome any other advise you have for a first time. Thank in advance!
OK, looks like I finally got my subscription here back on, had a bit of an issue with it, prob my fault, but whatever.
So, I was getting to SP once to twice a month back between 2014-2017. Alto Bom Gosto was one of the local knowledgeable mongers, actually met him.
I was mainly frequenting Clínicas, The Kilt, Love Story and Cafe Foto when I had extra cash. I did hook a few times on Photoacom.
Now, I have been back for about 6 months and all I do is photoAcm.
I have done about 15 TDs since back. Been about a third good, a third average and a third terrible.
Here are two to avoid like the plague;.
Luiza Barone, in Jardins.
Larissa Salimeni, also in Jardins.
Fake bait and switch all the way. Book with either and the girl won't be them.
Here are a few that were legit, into it and seemed super cool.
Alicia Muller, Jardins.
Cleo Schmidt, República.
Pricila, no area, she comes to you.
My whole thing is GFE. I want sex, but I need affection with it.
So far, I have been with 5 out of 15 that provided that.
I think it's a legit site for meeting girls without a lot of time invested, but 33% success rate isn't great.
But ol' Lobster has wised up, and can now spot the faker ads.
I will put up a quick quiser on that soon, if you all are interested.
Happy mongering!
Lonnie.
Yes, Miruna is open, as are almost all the other clinicas, priives, and boates.Good to know it's still open, I thought it was pretty good for girls, cleanliness and cost. Brooklyn was prob better selection of talent, but costly and out of the way for me.
Fran Oliver, light skinned mestiça.
Heaps of girls on Photoacom have old or enhanced photos, not Fran. In fact, she is finer in person than her photos. Really sweet too. I would like to take her on a night out, just have to find the time.
Anaggie, was Leticia wearing a white dress when you met her in the lobby bar Saturday night?
You were right not to even negotiate with Leticia. Either she is out of her mind or certain Renaissance guests are out of their mind. Either way I can't imagine her being a very busy girl. I guess from her perspective less is more or she is out fishing for a bigger catch than you or me.
Anyway, I had a very pleasant Saturday night. I had a GFE time with Vanessa. It was our 2nd get together since I arrived back in town. After boom boom, I took her to Figueira Rubaiyat where we had more drinks and a romantic dinner. Around midnight I said bye bye to Vanessa and put her in an Uber.
I wandered over to the bench area outside the Rennaissance lobby to smoke a Cubano. A few minutes later this attractive REN freelance bar girl came out and sat on the bench next to mine. I nodded Hello, but continued to mind my own business, expecting that the girl would make her pitch at some point.
The girl was definitely sexy, however, so I am just wondering if this is the Leticia that you met at the Ren bar Saturday night. The girl sitting opposite me was wearing a low cut white dress that showed off her breasts in a beautiful way. In addition, her dress had a long slit along the left side that reveled all of the girl's leg and thigh while she sat.
I continued smoking my Cubana and I was just enjoying the balmy night before calling it a night. The girl was absorbed with something on her cell phone and she ignored me. I was almost finished with my cigar when she began laughing at something she was viewing on her phone. I said something like, what is so funny? And she looked up and said, "Portuguese" in what I interpreted as an abrupt manner. I was not going to take her upstairs no matter what, but I found our brief moments together somewhat amusing.Yup. That is the one. I saw her when we were headed out for dinner on Saturday night, she was sitting by herself at the bar. Then, when we came back around 11 pm she was standing outside the doors looking at her phone. I came down to talk to her and then went back upstairs.
Jimmy Boy 99
04-26-22, 16:10
Miruna was the first clinca I went to when I was coming to SP, I assume it is closed now. Like Caf Foto is and most of my other haunts. Really looking fwd to getting to know SP again after over 5 years away.
Lonnie.Please check your PMs. Sent you one.
Hi guys,
I'll be making my first trip ever to Brazil next week and will mostly be seeing independent girls off photoacompanhantes. The biggest questions I have is, how safe is it to go to a girls incall / apartment? I also welcome any other advise you have for a first time. Thank in advance!If you follow some common sense, you're relatively safe going to a girl's incall apartment in Sao Paulo. Generally, I would stick to going to go to a building in a nicer part of town. Jardins, Moema, Bela Vista, etc. Many of these buildings have a front desk and cameras. I don't mind being required to check-in at the desk. It's for her safety and likely yours as well. It also helps to stick with escorts that have a footprint on the internet.
If you think something is off when you arrive, get out of there. If you sense someone else is there in another room, find out who it is or leave. Sometimes members have noted a guy in the other room. Not good. While others have noted a female roommate, who might also be an escort sharing the place. Likely no big deal.
Fran Oliver, light skinned mestia.
Heaps of girls on Photoacom have old or enhanced photos, not Fran. In fact, she is finer in person than her photos. Really sweet too. I would like to take her on a night out, just have to find the time.Based on your recommendations, it would seem you have a penchant for the slender Brasileiras.
Fran Oliver is the perfect example of a slender Brasileira who still has that pop in her ass.
Fran Oliver, light skinned mestia.
Heaps of girls on Photoacom have old or enhanced photos, not Fran. In fact, she is finer in person than her photos. Really sweet too. I would like to take her on a night out, just have to find the time.Does Fran speak any English? She is on my list to message next week when I arrive.
I've met real Brazilian women lawyers and doctors, some very attractive, through work.
There are not any of them at the termas or prives.
Whoring may be legal in Brazil, but it is still the bottom 5 or 10% of society.THIS! Nailed it.
SixMongerSix
04-27-22, 03:54
I am pretty excited to go to Rio & SP within the next month. Based on all the great takes, it seems like I have a fair idea about my trip and how much mongering I can get away with in a week. Just wanted to see if you guys think it would be a good idea to get an Airbnb as someone who doesn't speak Spanish / Portuguese and whether it would be a safe option. Also other than Scandallo in SP, which club would be the best in terms of quality not considering the price. Finally, do you typically see any of the high end acompanhantes working inside the likes of Scandallo as well?
Ye'thou th'old timers! Anyone knows what happened (or what's happening) to Luana Martinelli?
....You see I think most mongers have stress in their lives that they do not like to talk about. They would like to have one woman, but they have not found a woman who was special enough for them to give up their monogamy. Society says, "Oh, you are fucking that woman. You have to be monogamous", and they feel the shame of seeing multiple women.
Some guys here are such feminist types they objected to the phrase "earning monogamy" but I think it is a worthwhile exercise. What would it take for you to be loyal to one woman? If you can answer that question, your straying is not the problem, the women just are not good enough.BINGO! That has exactly been my experience. Most, and I really do mean MOST women are not worthy of my monogamy.
That is the funny part. You actually visualize what you want, and the universe has a weird way of giving it to you.Yep. In the end, the universe tends to unfold as it should.
Good post!
LionsNTigers
04-27-22, 16:12
Sunday morning was a rush to get the breakfast out of the way as the girls were leaving after breakfast. I was kind of relived to see the other go but not Recife. For some reason, I click with her better than other girls. Might be due to her past experience or her ability to be so chill and laid back. She also was recently in England and that opened her eyes. She just provided a much better GFE than the others I have been with.
But. My anal itch hadn't been scratched yet so I texted Leticia from the bar last night. She agreed to do anal and finish in mouth but her hourly charge was 2000 and I started laughing on the text. I told her that I spent 4000 for a full weekend including flight to being Recife down. She has to be kidding. Her answer is that she works in hotels and that is the rate she gets. I told her bye politely and she was a little pissed. She said that other people from other countries pay the price. So maybe I am just being a cheapskate. I said. Sure. And moved on. No point in discussing the matter further. I even texted a few on PA including the one I had last time who was busy till Monday and the others were too late in texting back or didn't reply. Maybe end of carnival weekend and they want to rest on Sunday. So.Was this Leticia a really slim, smoking hot blonde in a leopard print kind of romper? WhatsApp number ended in 914? If so, I had her for a pernoite for 1000 a few weeks back, but no anal, actually no blowjob either, but an enjoyable fuck and what a body. Overpaid but enjoyed it. I still chat at her but won't repeat, way better talent there for less.
That's why I say enjoy having a place like Scandallos, because it could disappear or be driven underground overnight.Just like most everything else in life, enjoy the good things while they are here. Tomorrow, they may not be here. 'Nuff said.
The Dollar / Real currency exchange has dropped +20%. This page has been quiet lately now. LOL.Yes, but it has recovered some in the last week or so and hopefully will continue its upward trajectory in time for my arrival in the middle of May.
Based on your recommendations, it would seem you have a penchant for the slender Brasileiras.
Fran Oliver is the perfect example of a slender Brasileira who still has that pop in her ass.Yeah, Wyatt, I'm thin to win.
I am a sucker for thin, martini TaTas with tight asses. Fran is perfect. If I was 20 years younger I would seriously consider taking her off the market.
Wyatt, you were here back before Covide, correct? I think we exchanged messages here.
Does Fran speak any English? She is on my list to message next week when I arrive.I don't think Fran speaks any English. My Portuguese is about 6/10 and the few times I had trouble getting a sentence right she did not offer any help in English. She is like 20-21 if I had to guess, from the country, prob not much formal education beyond high school. But fine as heck, sext and nice.
Hi guys,
I'll be making my first trip ever to Brazil next week and will mostly be seeing independent girls off photoacompanhantes. The biggest questions I have is, how safe is it to go to a girls incall / apartment? I also welcome any other advise you have for a first time. Thank in advance!As another monger mentioned, stay in the better areas, and any building with a door person will be super safe. Only once have I been at an apartment where there was another person besides the girl, and it was another girl doing the same thing as her, in another room. Don't be surprised if you are offered to have her join, but price will go way up.
The big thing is with Photoacom, is bait and switch, or the photos being really old / photoshopped.
Here are a few red flags that an ad might not be legit;.
Super hottie with a crazy low price. Hotties don't go for less than 250-300 reis an hour. See one at 150 or less, prob bait switch *****.
The ad is generic and has only 4 photos that are not risque but rather like vacation photos.
She only has an option to meet her at her place, but the neighborhood is not listed, and probably not a price listed either.
If you make contact, and you get canned responses, prob bait and switch.
Big red flag, location changes just before your scheduled session. That happened to me twice, first time I fell for it, second time I bailed on her immediately.
Look for these types of ads;.
Multiple non professional photos with heaps of her body showing.
Ones with TD reviews.
Location, with address is better, set price per hour.
A description that is not generic.
Ones that have multiple options of where to meet, like club de swing, jantar romântica etc.
Price is consistent with her hottie-ness.
All the above is not a guarantee of not getting bait and switched, but just a guideline from my experience using the site.
As I don't have much free time when I'm there, it has been my go-to as you can set up a session with minimal expense of time or money.
Hope this helps.
Lonnie.
Yeah That's even a bit kind. ID go with never ever ever give a girl you don't know any money for anything. They may even not be a girl! And that's the last you will hear from them. Always always only money in person to a girl you have physically had sex with!Nicely said. This is some "prime directive"-type stuff here. A fool and their money sis soon parted. This would be a perfect example of it.
Hi guys,
I'll be making my first trip ever to Brazil next week and will mostly be seeing independent girls off photoacompanhantes. The biggest questions I have is, how safe is it to go to a girls incall / apartment? I also welcome any other advise you have for a first time. Thank in advance!Forgot to mention, but don't be surprised if a girl is on there but her actual place of meeting is a Clínica. You will see some absolute hotties going for 100 reis, in Santana. They might be legit, but it is a Clínica at rua Henrique Bernardelli 119, so maybe she goes for 100, but it will be much more as you have to pay the house in addition. I have been wanting to go there as there are more than a few super fine chicks with ads on Photoacom.
Do any mongers have any Intel on the place?
Ye'thou th'old timers! Anyone knows what happened (or what's happening) to Luana Martinelli?She was a smokin' hot porn actress. I wouldn't think she was still working as an acompanhante. She has to at least 40 now. It would appear she hung up the garter around 2015.
Sometimes I see a current photo of a past porn star. Let's just say many times it's better to just have the memory and the old video clips.
Do any mongers go to actual night Clubs to dance?
I went to Blitz house back 5 years ago, music was not very good, I like house / electronic dance music when clubbing. I was going to another cool bar that had a dance floor in back called Mono, in Baixa Augusta, but sadly it closed. They had a speaker made out of a refrigerator, really great idea.
Has anyone been to the-Edge? Looks like it could be good. Was thinking of taking a girl out clubbing, any recommendations?
Thanks,
Lonnie.
Do any mongers go to actual night Clubs to dance?
I went to Blitz house back 5 years ago, music was not very good, I like house / electronic dance music when clubbing. I was going to another cool bar that had a dance floor in back called Mono, in Baixa Augusta, but sadly it closed. They had a speaker made out of a refrigerator, really great idea.
Has anyone been to the-Edge? Looks like it could be good. Was thinking of taking a girl out clubbing, any recommendations?
Thanks,
Lonnie.I went to Sutton in November and had a good time with my girl.
Av. Brg. Faria Lima, 4509 - Vila Olímpia, São Paulo. SP, 01452-915, Brazil.
From what I remember there is a 400 BRL entrance fee but it's all consumable or maybe it was 200 but 400 for the both of us.
They give you a card like in scandallo to buy drinks and order food if you come before 9 pm or something like that.
I wasn't aware of that but before we left the guy at the exit let us grab a bunch of drinks and gave us a bag to haul it out back to our hotel.
It's a high top club so nice views and they play American music so really nice vibes.
It's not a swing club but the few clubs I went to in SP and RJ there are always couples that will come up to you and your date and ask if you want to go out together for fun LOL.
There are a bunch in SP so best to ask your girl where the cool ones are as there are a bunch in the biggest city in South America.
Ye'thou th'old timers! Anyone knows what happened (or what's happening) to Luana Martinelli?
She was a smokin' hot porn actress. I wouldn't think she was still working as an acompanhante. She has to at least 40 now. It would appear she hung up the garter around 2015.
Sometimes I see a current photo of a past porn star. Let's just say many times it's better to just have the memory and the old video clips.No man, she was a regular (but still hot hot hot) GDP doing occasional porn. I saw her at least 3 times and had a whale of the time back in the day. If she liked you she'd give you a different name to call her by when you call her next and that would basically half the price. I just remember her well and wouldn't mind seeing her again even if she's in her 40's, which I think she's probably in her late 30's now.
So anyone knows what she is doing nowadays I definitely would love to hear it.
Vagabundo1
04-28-22, 12:51
Dancing.
Casaro is SP was fun to go to dance. I went with a girl from a clinica.
In Rio, I would recommend Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa, Rua do Rezende 82. Girls who smoke ganja like to fuck, and the hoars we like will like to go to ganja coffee shop. However, they will probably like the younger guys who are there, so be forewarned.
Do any mongers go to actual night Clubs to dance?
I went to Blitz house back 5 years ago, music was not very good, I like house / electronic dance music when clubbing. I was going to another cool bar that had a dance floor in back called Mono, in Baixa Augusta, but sadly it closed. They had a speaker made out of a refrigerator, really great idea..
No man, she was a regular (but still hot hot hot) GDP doing occasional porn. I saw her at least 3 times and had a whale of the time back in the day. If she liked you she'd give you a different name to call her by when you call her next and that would basically half the price. I just remember her well and wouldn't mind seeing her again even if she's in her 40's, which I think she's probably in her late 30's now.I think most of the women who shoot Brazilian porn are / were also quite available GDPs. Occasional porn is a relative term. There are quite a few of Luana's scenes on the internet porn sites. She shot for some American production companies as well.
I presume we are talking about the adorable, petite blonde with a lithe body named Luana Martinelli.
Dancing.
Casaro is SP was fun to go to dance. I went with a girl from a clinica.
In Rio, I would recommend Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa, Rua do Rezende 82. Girls who smoke ganja like to fuck, and the hoars we like will like to go to ganja coffee shop. However, they will probably like the younger guys who are there, so be forewarned.Isn't Caseiro just a boite?
I was looking more for a nightclub where actual DJs play dance music for people to dance to. Mono was that, Blitzhouse. The-Edge has what is described as a top of the line Soundsystem and lighting. I have been to Casero and I wouldn't describe it's Soundsystem as what too tier nightclubs have.
Casa 92 was really fun, but I saw it closed too.
But thanks for responding.
I went to Sutton in November and had a good time with my girl.
Av. Brg. Faria Lima, 4509 - Vila Olmpia, So Paulo. SP, 01452-915, Brazil.
From what I remember there is a 400 BRL entrance fee but it's all consumable or maybe it was 200 but 400 for the both of us.
They give you a card like in scandallo to buy drinks and order food if you come before 9 pm or something like that.
I wasn't aware of that but before we left the guy at the exit let us grab a bunch of drinks and gave us a bag to haul it out back to our hotel.
It's a high top club so nice views and they play American music so really nice vibes.
It's not a swing club but the few clubs I went to in SP and RJ there are always couples that will come up to you and your date and ask if you want to go out together for fun LOL.
There are a bunch in SP so best to ask your girl where the cool ones are as there are a bunch in the biggest city in South America.Looks really nice, got good reviews to. Thanks for letting me know about it.
Does anyone have any Intel on this place?
It's at rua Henrique Bernardelli 119, in Santana neighborhood.
I see heaps of hotties on Photoacom with ads with that address.
Thinking about going there, but it's a bit far from my hotel, and a bit leary as the chicks are crazy fine and could just be bait and switch type of operation.
Thanks.
I think most of the women who shoot Brazilian porn are / were also quite available GDPs. Occasional porn is a relative term. There are quite a few of Luana's scenes on the internet porn sites. She shot for some American production companies as well.
I presume we are talking about the adorable, petite blonde with a lithe body named Luana Martinelli.Yep, that's the girl.
LionsNTigers
04-29-22, 04:13
Can you take a girl into Scandallo, if I had a girlfriend there who wanted to go with me? Any idea how the women there deal with the house?
There is this girl who has a fantasy about being taken there and offered to other men, wondering how hard that would be to make happen? She is a local (sort of, from 2 hours north of Sao Paulo).
SamaRiding
04-29-22, 06:20
Does anyone have any Intel on this place?
It's at rua Henrique Bernardelli 119, in Santana neighborhood.
I see heaps of hotties on Photoacom with ads with that address.
Thinking about going there, but it's a bit far from my hotel, and a bit leary as the chicks are crazy fine and could just be bait and switch type of operation..I have not been to. But it is a well known bait and switch clinica / prive on the local forum. They do a lot of ads on fake photo online and it's unclear if any of the girls In the ads are real. When you book a girl and get there, they will say that girl is busy or just send you another girl. That said, guys have gone there to see the line up (without booking) and have reported that a few good young lookers. I think the total price is r160 or 190 per hour. I have been tempted to go look but it's really far away. Too risky for me to waste a few hours to come back empty. Let us know how is if you venture out!
SamaRiding
04-29-22, 06:40
Isn't Caseiro just a boite?
I was looking more for a nightclub where actual DJs play dance music for people to dance to. Mono was that, Blitzhouse. The-Edge has what is described as a top of the line Soundsystem and lighting. I have been to Casero and I wouldn't describe it's Soundsystem as what too tier nightclubs have.
Casa 92 was really fun, but I saw it closed too.
But thanks for responding.You can try Hot bar in Moema. It's a High end swing bar but lots of young hot locals go there on the weekends to party. They have good DJs and a big dance club area. The swing area is separate on the opposite side. The dance area opens late. If you reserve online to be on the list, the cover is a lot cheaper with it being mostly consumables. It's nice to bring a GP to party, and girls like going because it's a high end place. But my girl was the hottest girl there on the swing side and open for anything and that just attracted too much attention.
https://www.hotbar.com.br/
Jimmy Boy 99
04-29-22, 16:12
Does anyone have any Intel on this place?
It's at rua Henrique Bernardelli 119, in Santana neighborhood.
I see heaps of hotties on Photoacom with ads with that address.
Thinking about going there, but it's a bit far from my hotel, and a bit leary as the chicks are crazy fine and could just be bait and switch type of operation.
Thanks.https://massagenssantana.com.br/index.html
Does not seem like a regular clinica as you make an appointment directly with the girl. They may be freelacners who use the facility for sessions.
Vagabundo1
04-29-22, 16:59
Paris cafe in Barra in Rio works like that.
Club mix bar in praca xv in Rio works like that.
So does the nude beach haha.
You can try Hot bar in Moema. It's a High end swing bar but lots of young hot locals go there on the weekends to party. They have good DJs and a big dance club area. The swing area is separate on the opposite side. The dance area opens late. If you reserve online to be on the list, the cover is a lot cheaper with it being mostly consumables. It's nice to bring a GP to party, and girls like going because it's a high end place. But my girl was the hottest girl there on the swing side and open for anything and that just attracted too much attention.
https://www.hotbar.com.br/
Can you take a girl into Scandallo, if I had a girlfriend there who wanted to go with me? Any idea how the women there deal with the house?
There is this girl who has a fantasy about being taken there and offered to other men, wondering how hard that would be to make happen? She is a local (sort of, from 2 hours north of Sao Paulo).I took my wife but we are in our mid-30's and not local so clearly not there to work so I'm not sure if it will be possible to get a room without one person involved who is actually working. The hotel was happy to charge me 3 x for the foursome though, at least we got a big room.
https://massagenssantana.com.br/index.html
Does not seem like a regular clinica as you make an appointment directly with the girl. They may be freelacners who use the facility for sessions.I was kinda thinking that might how it worked, as the ads on Photos matched girls on their site. The girls are only asking 100 reis, which is way low for their hotness level. I assume the house will take 200 or so, which is still a pretty good bargain if the girl looks anything like her photos.
Could be a good way to meet a freelancer who might like to meet outside of the place.
Thanks for responding.
You can try Hot bar in Moema. It's a High end swing bar but lots of young hot locals go there on the weekends to party. They have good DJs and a big dance club area. The swing area is separate on the opposite side. The dance area opens late. If you reserve online to be on the list, the cover is a lot cheaper with it being mostly consumables. It's nice to bring a GP to party, and girls like going because it's a high end place. But my girl was the hottest girl there on the swing side and open for anything and that just attracted too much attention.
https://www.hotbar.com.br/Thanks!
I asked one of the girls I met on Photos about going to a disco, and she said we could go to a swing club. My niece butt thought she meant swing dancing, not swinging, ha!
So I think I might take her up on that. Once I wised up, I asked her how she would feel seeing me with another girl. She said about the same as me seeing her with another guy. Winner!
I will ask her if she knows of that place. She has probably been there.
I have not been to. But it is a well known bait and switch clinica / prive on the local forum. They do a lot of ads on fake photo online and it's unclear if any of the girls In the ads are real. When you book a girl and get there, they will say that girl is busy or just send you another girl. That said, guys have gone there to see the line up (without booking) and have reported that a few good young lookers. I think the total price is r160 or 190 per hour. I have been tempted to go look but it's really far away. Too risky for me to waste a few hours to come back empty. Let us know how is if you venture out!Def has been on my mind that it might work like that. And it is a hike for me as well. When things seem to good to be true.
You can try Hot bar in Moema. It's a High end swing bar but lots of young hot locals go there on the weekends to party. They have good DJs and a big dance club area. The swing area is separate on the opposite side. The dance area opens late. If you reserve online to be on the list, the cover is a lot cheaper with it being mostly consumables. It's nice to bring a GP to party, and girls like going because it's a high end place. But my girl was the hottest girl there on the swing side and open for anything and that just attracted too much attention.
https://www.hotbar.com.br/I have never been there, but some girls like this place https://www.spicyclub.com.br/. It’s better have your date with you.
I have received so much inputs, advice and the forum. So I wanted to share my trip report.
We were 3 friends who visited together. Stayed at Renaissance. Hotel is in a very nice neighborhood. Just behind the hotel are some upscale bars and restaurants.
Across the street next to the McD, there are 3 money exchanges next to each other. The Day-Cambio is what I used. Decent rates, but the process took 30 minutes. As if I was buying a home mortgage process. 1000 USD per day, show the passport etc, dramatics.
Renaissance lobby had some decent girls 2-5 girls most of the evenings. But all looking for 1000-1500. My friend took 1 for 1000. Very poor service.
We had planned many seeking girls. First day had a 3 some with 2 seeking girls, had to book their ubers, etc, they were so "tiny" think compared to the pictures. They were trying to impress, but just didn't know how to operate as a 3-some. They did their part, but it was not fun. We had around 6-7 girls on various days (day-time) to meet with seeking girls. But all of them were too soft, naive or not good in bed at all. Compared to Scandallo service. Every evening we went to Scandallo. Wed 20th was great. Thursday / Friday / Saturday was 50% the crowd. Due to the holidays / carnavale etc. , Wed. Our first night was happening. On the last night, Saturday we got a 19 year old girl, who took 2-3 drinks with us and went crazy in the room. She was literally carried away to go down without condoms, but in the last minute, out of a safety concern, I killed my enthusiasm and wore one. Almost all the girls asked 1000,1500,1200 etc. , some we got with 600, but some who spent a lot of time with us drinking etc. , and were fun and high energy, ended with 700-800. With almost all of them we were able to do 2 times. Scandallo room charges for 1 hour was 230. But every time I paid 280,315,405 etc, because I stayed more than hour and I think they were calculating by the minute after the hour. 4 girls, 4 night. All of them just were bubbling with energy, gave an amazing crazy experience. And all of them did two times. Some did sensual massages with oil etc. , so the girls worked very hard to keep us happy. So 10000% worth the effort and money at Scandallo. The manager, the staff all took care of us right-royal. We also tipped for good service and the enter service staff did take care of us. Royalty treatment. Scandallo entrance 400 with 200 in food / drinks allowance. Room is 230. If you entered before 7 pm, the entrance is 200 and you can apply the entire 200 towards food and drinks. (we never made it before 7).
Went to Connection. We went there a little early around 9 pm on the advise of one of the staff at Scandallo. (ran by the same owner). The Connection bar has strip dancing. But it starts only at 11. The girls all come to you. Was a little bit of pressure. The quality of the girls was 50% lower than Scandalllo. But prices were 400-etc. , entrance was 100. With 50 in consumption.
Went to TajMahal. Ipad pictures, and then pick one and go to the room. Clean facilities. 350 total. Didn't like the ipad experience. Like the parade.
Went twice to Tangara. Literally 3-5 girls only in the parade. Didn't do anything. Just went their for old ABG memories.
Wanted to go to Miruna, enjoy etc. , but the 2 friends acted and behaved too royalty and were pampered by scandollo. So they didn't were not good wing-men.
Went to are-Augusta. Just for the experience. Again were there at 10 pm. A little too early. Was too dull, we walked into many of them without paying entrance to "look". Again we were too clouded by Scandallo luxury and didn't session anywhere.
Went to Cafe Foto, Bamboa. Was "empty with 10 girls on Friday and Saturday". Cafe Foto wanted to do a 2 for 3 entrance discount. But they were upfront, that they had only 10 girls. So didn't stay anywhere.
So all 4 nights it was Scandallo. Organized many numbers and had some of the Scandallo girls come to hotel on Sunday.
Overall- the BED satisfaction was extremely high with scandallo girls than anywhere else. Seeking was a terrible waste / mistake as far as our experiences are concerned.
Scandallo we didn't find most girls speak any English at all. In my prior trips, I have seen a reasonable number spoke English, but this time, literally none.
Every night dinners were extremely good at Scandallo.
Overall. As usual Scandallo was the winner, and all our poor experiments to stay away from Scandallo to look for alternatives, just fell flat on the face for us. (given, some of the guys were NOT open anything less than the fancy Scandallo).
The Critic
05-01-22, 08:53
I have received so much inputs, advice and the forum. So I wanted to share my trip report.
Every evening we went to Scandallo.Almost all the girls asked 1000,1500,1200 etc. , some we got with 600, but some who spent a lot of time with us drinking etc. , and were fun and high energy, ended with 700-800.
1. The Scandallo quotes for 1000,1500,1200 was for 1hr? onsite room (or pernoite at hotel)
2. Seems like it's getting harder to get girls for R500hr-R800hr onsite or is it a matter of negotiating skills?
Thanks for a detailed report.
1. The Scandallo quotes for 1000,1500,1200 was for 1hr? onsite room (or pernoite at hotel)
2. Seems like it's getting harder to get girls for R500hr-R800hr onsite or is it a matter of negotiating skills?
Thanks for a detailed report.In October 2020 it was easy to talk down girls at Scandallo down to 600R for short time. Out of 8 girls only one didn't want to budge from 1000.
By the way, I checked the rate of Renaissance hotel and it's now sky-high (400 euros a night). What's happening?
In October 2020 it was easy to talk down girls at Scandallo down to 600R for short time. Out of 8 girls only one didn't want to budge from 1000.
By the way, I checked the rate of Renaissance hotel and it's now sky-high (400 euros a night). What's happening?Pent up travel demand. It is crazy in countries where there are little covid restrictions.
1. The Scandallo quotes for 1000,1500,1200 was for 1hr? onsite room (or pernoite at hotel)
2. Seems like it's getting harder to get girls for R500hr-R800hr onsite or is it a matter of negotiating skills?
Thanks for a detailed report.It was 1000,1500, 1200 etc, was for 1 hour upstairs within Scandallo. (room was 230 separately). But this is for negotiation. Only one girl didn't move from the 1000. Almost all of them started here and ended around 700-800.
In October 2020 it was easy to talk down girls at Scandallo down to 600R for short time. Out of 8 girls only one didn't want to budge from 1000.
By the way, I checked the rate of Renaissance hotel and it's now sky-high (400 euros a night). What's happening?Renaissance. We booked through Marriott points. But it was funny, when we booked 3 months ago, it was 100 k points, but 2 days before, it was 72 k points. So I was within the cancellation window and I cancelled and rebooked. It is funny at that same time, the $ pricing was increasing. I guess, I lucked out.
Axel Heyst
05-01-22, 18:33
It is now 17 days into my trip. I have 30 more days remaining. From now on I will always think of SP as the city of women. That is all I do every day aside from eating, drinking, walking around, and sleeping. There are so many attractive girls here and they are so good in bed, it is fucking fantastic. The girls leave me no time for writing trip reports. Reports will have to come later when I am back in Shitsville, USA.
But 2 recent posts on current asking prices have got me posting about a few of my experiences this trip on the price topic:
In October Scandallo girls were asking as much as 900 br, but they always accepted my counter offer of 500 br. This April I still give the Scandallo girls I knew from October 500 br. I am giving new April Scandallo girls that I have just met 600 br.
Tonight one of my favorites, Sheila, who was the main girl in my ménage a trois post from 2 weeks ago, is coming over to my hotel to spend the night. We are going to drink Malbec, smoke weed, boom boom, go out for dinner and boom boom some more. She asked for 1000 br plus Uber for all night and I agreed because it seemed a friendly offer.
I have experienced similar pricing in Bomboa. 500 br for my girls from October & 600 br for new girls.
The crazy thing I have experienced is the 2 quotes I have received from a Club Model and a MClass girl that I reached out to. The Club Model one is a super hot, all natural, branca, no tattoos, no surgeries, and no butt enlargements, but maybe a nose job, LOL. I won't give her name out over the internet, but she is currently the prettiest blond Club Model girl on their web site, so it is not that hard to figure out who I am talking about. After I contacted her she sent me a form response:
"Atendimento them meu local, hotel e motel.
Cach: are $1.500/ h + taxa de deslocamento.
Restrio: ando fao anal.
Para agendamentos de horrios ser necessrio 50% do valor via pix.
Link abaixo com minhas fotos e vdeos."
Her link provided 40 or more pics and videos. So she is for real, but she is pricing herself out of business IMHO. I texted back, "Wow! Querida, acho voc muito bonita, mas tambm acho seu preo umpouco alto. " and she texted back, "Ahh infelizmente ando consigo diminuir o valor."
So that was that. No point in pursuing the matter further or so I thought. I said goodbye and told her to have a good day. But then a couple of days later she sends me a text asking if I want to see her. I have not gotten back to her yet, but I may just to see if she has changed her mind although there is no way I am sending a girl I never met 1 real. Ha ha. In April 2021 during the lockdown MClass girls were asking 700 br. BarraVIP RJ girls were asking 500 & 600 br and I met some great girls on those two web sites.
One more thing: 3 nights ago I met a very attractive blond spinner in Bomboa. She looked vaguely familiar, but I could not place her. Anyway we had a real nice session in Bomboa, so nice, that I texted her the next day to see if she wanted to get together again. She said she did, but that she would prefer to come visit me at my hotel because that way she would not be stuck all night at Bomboa. So we made our plans for a short time at my hotel. Then during the day it came to me: she was a very attractive Club Model girl that I had noted and placed on my possible list before arriving in SP. I checked my docs and sure enough, same girl. She took down her advertisement during Easter which was a disappointment to me and so far she has not put her add back up. The night we met in Bomboa she asked for 800 br. I countered with 600 br and she accepted. A far cry from 1500 br ask of the 2 call girls I mentioned earlier. KKK.
Our 2nd night at my hotel was really good. We drank wine and got to know each other a little better. She is a great gal and she is 100% fluent in English. I really dig her, but I also dig almost every girl I have been with this trip and I have repeated with many.
This is Lusa Nowak on club model. I don't know how much she changes now. I think she went by another name before and she charged 1500/ HR.
Axel Heyst
05-01-22, 22:30
Oi Nounce,
Small world. Louise Nowak IS the call girl I was talking about, the one I contacted. I think she is pretty hot although not perfect by any means. I would rate her 7. 9 out of 10 in my rating system which is very high.
The 1500 br asking price is bad enough, but sending her half the money upfront is cuckoo for coco puffs. HA HA. I think she is getting horrible advice from someone. She can't have many takers under these conditions. So maybe I will spot her in Scandallo one night. KKK.
A. H.
UniversalX
05-01-22, 22:34
This is Lusa Nowak on club model. I don't know how much she changes now. I think she went by another name before and she charged 1500/ HR.Is $300 USD/HR... Na, I'll pass. She looks good but the price too rich for me.
Is $300 USD/HR... Na, I'll pass. She looks good but the price too rich for me.Why go to Brazil to pay $300? I myself can find top talent just over the Canadian border for that price. She allegedly requires a 50% deposit for an appointment.
With a name change (formerly Isabelle Drummond), the advance deposit and a general lack of reviews, red flags abound.
This is Lusa Nowak on club model. I don't know how much she changes now. I think she went by another name before and she charged 1500/ HR.She's hot, but I wouldn't pay that. Too high. My max, based on current exchange rates, would be 1,000/ hour. Looking at it from her angle, I don't know what her situation is, but maybe she's not looking for high volume, and doesn't need it either. Maybe she wants a smaller cadre of customers who pay more, so she doesn't have to fuck as much. I think she has the looks to get enough guys to bite. And if her service is good, then plenty of those guys would be willing to be repeat customers. There are always those mongers who think they're getting something more (and exclusive) just because they're paying more to bang a hot chick that most other guys will pass on.
Aaragon2022
05-02-22, 01:23
Is $300 USD/HR... Na, I'll pass. She looks good but the price too rich for me.Curious.
Are you saying there are better looking girls for lot less?
This is Lusa Nowak on club model. I don't know how much she changes now. I think she went by another name before and she charged 1500/ HR.Yea she went by another name before but apparently a bunch of local guys on the GPguia forum and even on here blasted her for insanely high prices. It got pretty messy with her answering with some brutal remarks LOL.
I messaged her out of curiosity back in September and she stuck solid on 1500.
She's apparently grabbing some guys and making some cash because she has the first post on private55, clubmodel and splove which are the 3 biggest escort sites in SP and that does cost a pretty penny (I don't consider PA because of all the bait and switch and low quality girls).
I think we tend to forget that there are some big whales out there that will spend money without batting an eye.
There is a market of guys who just love to spend money for no reason just to do it. I do some work for a few strip clubs and it's just a daily occurrence of seeing guys spend 25 k in one night just to drink with a bunch of girls and make it rain. I don't understand that mindset but those guys bring that mindset to Brazil and do It there as well.
It's an interesting strategy of trying to catch that small market of guys who will pay that kind of money but it definitely works since I'm pretty sure we all know that one guy who does this LOL.
I would still never pay that kind of money but some guys just have more money than sense.
I just remembered a story a friend of mine told me that summarizes this. He was hanging out with an owner of a big club and they couldn't find any parking.
Where most people see a handicap parking spot with a $300 fine, he just saw it as the parking spot fee and treated it how you would for valet parking. He had a bunch of tickets and would just pay it off just to not waste time finding a parking space.
So this girls price are for guys like this.
... Maybe she wants a smaller cadre of customers who pay more, so she doesn't have to fuck as much...That is what she said. Why fuck 6 when you only need to fuck 2. Haha.
Yea she went by another name before...You also think it is the same girl? I was curious because Axel's post so I went to look it up. I am not sure but I think she is the same one.
Are you saying there are better looking girls for lot less?Not better looking, but you should be able to get someone at the same level for 600 last year. Some will target gringo and charge more. That is what a another Scandallo girl said and was quoted in local forum. This is also my personal experience, at Scandallo she wanted 800 but online was 600 or so. I forgot the actual number. I have a post with her picture here.
Another monger mentioned him.
I don't see him here anymore.
Did ABG move away, or did he move on to the great price in the sky?
Just wondering, as the one time I met he he seemed like a solid dude.
Yea she went by another name before but apparently a bunch of local guys on the GPguia forum and even on here blasted her for insanely high prices. It got pretty messy with her answering with some brutal remarks LOL.
I messaged her out of curiosity back in September and she stuck solid on 1500.
She's apparently grabbing some guys and making some cash because she has the first post on private55, clubmodel and splove which are the 3 biggest escort sites in SP and that does cost a pretty penny (I don't consider PA because of all the bait and switch and low quality girls).
I think we tend to forget that there are some big whales out there that will spend money without batting an eye.
There is a market of guys who just love to spend money for no reason just to do it. I do some work for a few strip clubs and it's just a daily occurrence of seeing guys spend 25 k in one night just to drink with a bunch of girls and make it rain. I don't understand that mindset but those guys bring that mindset to Brazil and do It there as well..I think if a girl is in a situation where she doesn't need to turn Trix to keep a roof over her head, it's a good strategy. But the girl better be damn hot to be able to pull it off. From her picture she is smoking hot, def a 9+.
She can just sit back with minimal cost and time, and make solid extra cash.
As for the guys paying it, to some, that amount is chump change. To a loaded guy, why get your meat from Sizzler when you can go to a high end steak joint?
This is Lusa Nowak on club model. I don't know how much she changes now. I think she went by another name before and she charged 1500/ HR.You can get similar or hotter in Germany for equivalent BRL 1000 / HR.
In October Scandallo girls were asking as much as 900 br, but they always accepted my counter offer of 500 br. This April I still give the Scandallo girls I knew from October 500 br. I am giving new April Scandallo girls that I have just met 600 br.
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I have experienced similar pricing in Bomboa. 500 br for my girls from October & 600 br for new girls.
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The crazy thing I have experienced is the 2 quotes I have received from a Club Model and a MClass girl....Wow! Are prices rising so quick? Is it an "after Covid economic thing"? Making some research by myself on mclass / splove / clubmodel I can also feel that the prices are going up (for those who mentioned their prices of course). But it is not unusual to see 700/ HR 800/ HR. 1 year ago on the same websites the average price was 500 or 600/ HR.
Carpaccio18
05-02-22, 17:48
Going to SP from the end of May. Wanted to book myself into the Renaissance from reading here. But prices are pretty high there at the moment.
Can anyone recommend another good hotel. Ie. Guest-friendly, good neighbourhood? Maybe even a lobby bar where one may catch a WG or two?
Going to SP from the end of May. Wanted to book myself into the Renaissance from reading here. But prices are pretty high there at the moment.
Can anyone recommend another good hotel. Ie. Guest-friendly, good neighbourhood? Maybe even a lobby bar where one may catch a WG or two?Although I don't know exactly what they're charging these days, I can recommend the Mercure Times Square in Moema, but please RTFF for other ideas:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4069-Sao-Paulo-Hotels-and-List
My first time back in SP in 6 weeks. I usually get here 2-3 times a month for work, but had a break. When here it's short, so have to hit ground running.
So last night took my main babe out to celebrate a job she got. Took her to Terraço Italia, high end resto on the top of the Italian building in República. Food and service were very good, but the view, which is what you are paying for is incredible.
Very romantic dinner, with a fashion model body babe. Met her Photoacom 6 months ago, she doesn't post anymore, gives newlywed on honeymoon GFE, which I live for. I know I am paying for it, but she delivers. Excellent session at her flat after.
But today.
Only had noon to 1 open, tried to schedule with two hotties near my hotel, Manu Mila and then Mila Albuquerque, got the Heisman on both. Albuquerque actually responded, and we spoke on the phone, but she couldn't swing my limited time frame.
So I ventured out of my strike zone and contacted a woman in Jardins called Alinne. MILF for sure, but I liked her description, and she responded right away and was available. Met at her place at noon. For all you guys who like thick woman, with bundao and big fake boobs and frizzy hair (bimbo), you would dig her. All business, walk in, take of clothes, go at it, but she DFKed, let me touch her wherever, and was fairly loving. But I could not cum vaginally, she finished me with blow and hand job. Rubbers are tough anyway to cum, but not being into the chick makes it impossible for me. I just don't find that type of chick sexually attractive. She asks 200 reis, I gave her 225, as she was nice, educated, and treated me well, has her own place that was clean.
She is not attractive on the face, has some cellulite on her thighs and bum, but if you like thick woman, than she would be a good choice for not much money.
Lonnie.
Steve 9696
05-02-22, 19:58
Yea she went by another name before but apparently a bunch of local guys on the GPguia forum and even on here blasted her for insanely high prices. It got pretty messy with her answering with some brutal remarks LOL.
I messaged her out of curiosity back in September and she stuck solid on 1500.
She's apparently grabbing some guys and making some cash because she has the first post on private55, clubmodel and splove which are the 3 biggest escort sites in SP and that does cost a pretty penny (I don't consider PA because of all the bait and switch and low quality girls).
I think we tend to forget that there are some big whales out there that will spend money without batting an eye.
There is a market of guys who just love to spend money for no reason just to do it. I do some work for a few strip clubs and it's just a daily occurrence of seeing guys spend 25 k in one night just to drink with a bunch of girls and make it rain. I don't understand that mindset but those guys bring that mindset to Brazil and do It there as well.
It's an interesting strategy of trying to catch that small market of guys who will pay that kind of money but it definitely works since I'm pretty sure we all know that one guy who does this LOL.
I would still never pay that kind of money but some guys just have more money than sense.
I just remembered a story a friend of mine told me that summarizes this. He was hanging out with an owner of a big club and they couldn't find any parking.
Where most people see a handicap parking spot with a $300 fine, he just saw it as the parking spot fee and treated it how you would for valet parking. He had a bunch of tickets and would just pay it off just to not waste time finding a parking space.
So this girls price are for guys like this.Yep no question whales exist. I've known two escorts in London snapped up by big daddies. Melty was awesome and worked there about a year. Suddenly she's jetting all over the world and pictures on beaches and luxury sports cars. And Anna has found a local daddy with pounds coming out his eyeballs. She's daily posting from $1000/ night hotels and $300/ plate restaurants. A new Gucci bag and flowers pretty much weekly.
I mean these guys are in a different league. Measured in the eight figures and up I'the say.
SamaRiding
05-02-22, 23:57
We had planned many seeking girls. First day had a 3 some with 2 seeking girls, had to book their ubers, etc, they were so "tiny" think compared to the pictures. They were trying to impress, but just didn't know how to operate as a 3-some. They did their part, but it was not fun. We had around 6-7 girls on various days (day-time) to meet with seeking girls. But all of them were too soft, naive or not good in bed at all.
Seeking was a terrible waste / mistake as far as our experiences are concerned.Thanks for your report on seeking girls in SP. There were a few very good report on seeking several months ago on this tread but I wasn't convinced. How much was your price per meeting and did your girls speak English? I have many girls on my to do list already and didn't have time to find girls on seeking. Sounds like pretty low yield from your report.
SamaRiding
05-03-22, 00:18
Going to SP from the end of May. Wanted to book myself into the Renaissance from reading here. But prices are pretty high there at the moment.
Can anyone recommend another good hotel. Ie. Guest-friendly, good neighbourhood? Maybe even a lobby bar where one may catch a WG or two?Just curious.
The renaissance is nice hotel but What's the fascination of the renaissance lobby girls? Is it the fantasy of going to a hotel bar, buying a Sexy girl a drink and taking her upstairs? Or the convenience of not leaving the hotel to get a girl. Even though for night action, there is casarao, Bomboa, and scandallo within 5 to 20 minutes away with 50 to 200+ girls. I never stayed but the lobby seems to have between 2 to 6 girls who cater to international travelers with high prices and less than stellar service.
Did ABG move away, or did he move on to the great price in the sky?The latter, sadly.
Thanks for your report on seeking girls in SP. There were a few very good report on seeking several months ago on this tread but I wasn't convinced. How much was your price per meeting and did your girls speak English? I have many girls on my to do list already and didn't have time to find girls on seeking. Sounds like pretty low yield from your report.Most seeking girls started with 2000, some even at 5000. Etc, but most of them settled at 800. I had 600, 800, 1000 for different reasons. 1000 was to stay from 1 pm to 5 pm. But in general, most of them wanted 800. From excellent English. To average English. Seeking girls spoke better English than Scandallo. But 1000% experience wise were very poor. Other than English, very posh dressed, the output was terrible.
UniversalX
05-03-22, 07:05
Just curious.
The renaissance is nice hotel but What's the fascination of the renaissance lobby girls? Is it the fantasy of going to a hotel bar, buying a Sexy girl a drink and taking her upstairs? Or the convenience of not leaving the hotel to get a girl. Even though for night action, there is casarao, Bomboa, and scandallo within 5 to 20 minutes away with 50 to 200+ girls. I never stayed but the lobby seems to have between 2 to 6 girls who cater to international travelers with high prices and less than stellar service.Shoot, https://casaraoaugusta.com.br/ is walking distance from Renaissance.
Google Map (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Rua+Augusta,+791+-+Consola%C3%A7%C3%A3o,+S%C3%A3o+Paulo+-+SP,+Brazil/Alameda+Santos,+2233+-+Jardim+Paulista,+S%C3%A3o+Paulo+-+SP,+01419-101,+Brazil/@-23.5556983,-46.6603923,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x94ce5835011b8921:0xb40856e7a7d873e6!2m2!1d-46.653427!2d-23.5525419!1m5!1m1!1s0x94ce59d2bc4e59df:0x660bf321361e0bc3!2m2!1d-46.6623653!2d-23.5588858!3e2)
You answered your own question.....Lol, however I don't waste my time with them. They are low-hanging-fruit. IMHO best to venture out (probably the reason for traveling to SP in the first place) and explore the bounty of SP.
Carpaccio18
05-03-22, 21:37
Just curious.
The renaissance is nice hotel but What's the fascination of the renaissance lobby girls? Is it the fantasy of going to a hotel bar, buying a Sexy girl a drink and taking her upstairs? Or the convenience of not leaving the hotel to get a girl. Even though for night action, there is casarao, Bomboa, and scandallo within 5 to 20 minutes away with 50 to 200+ girls. I never stayed but the lobby seems to have between 2 to 6 girls who cater to international travelers with high prices and less than stellar service.Well, I guess its merely about having the option should all else fail or coming back late from business. Primary option would be something else, and most certainly Scandallo is top of the todo list. Then there's the ambience of decadence. If the hotel allow girls working the lobby, there certainly wouldn't be frowned upon what else you bring.
But guess in the end fellows mongers here speak of Renaissance as the place to stay, that's a fine reference for me. And who knows, maybe some other ISGers are in town for a beer or worse while there. I am a newbie to SP.
For the record I did book it, pricy or not.
Just curious.
The renaissance is nice hotel but What's the fascination of the renaissance lobby girls? Is it the fantasy of going to a hotel bar, buying a Sexy girl a drink and taking her upstairs? Or the convenience of not leaving the hotel to get a girl. Even though for night action, there is casarao, Bomboa, and scandallo within 5 to 20 minutes away with 50 to 200+ girls. I never stayed but the lobby seems to have between 2 to 6 girls who cater to international travelers with high prices and less than stellar service.Convenience. Same reason I get a drink at the lobby bar instead of venturing out to an entire city worth of much better drinking establishments. When I'm in SP for work, I don't have the time or energy to go hunting till the wee hours. Also, I've found the prices usually fall closer to market value if you counter and they realize you aren't ignorant of the GDP market.
Vagabundo1
05-04-22, 00:54
ABG's favorite sushi place?
There's a all you can eat sushi place in liberdade that abg would always go to. Anyone remember? His pro forma day was noon - 19 h, prives, then 20 h, all you can eat sushi. It was excellent. He was a great man, and should be remembered well in our community of mongers.
SamaRiding
05-04-22, 01:14
A few guys were asking about girl friendly hotels. Correct me if I am wrong. Like in the USA, all decent hotels in SP allow girl visitors. I don't know about the cheap budget hotels. Just be discreet and book for 2 persons as a precaution. Most hotels and apartment buildings make guests register, and that is common in entering any building in SP. There are recommendations to get a hotel in Moema or Jardins but that is due to location convenience and read the SP hotel thread for recs.
The latter, sadly.That's sad.
Just curious.
The renaissance is nice hotel but What's the fascination of the renaissance lobby girls? Is it the fantasy of going to a hotel bar, buying a Sexy girl a drink and taking her upstairs? Or the convenience of not leaving the hotel to get a girl. Even though for night action, there is casarao, Bomboa, and scandallo within 5 to 20 minutes away with 50 to 200+ girls. I never stayed but the lobby seems to have between 2 to 6 girls who cater to international travelers with high prices and less than stellar service.Fear probably has a lot to do with it also. Fear of getting robbed on the street, in the taxi or Uber, in the club since you don't speak the language. At the hotel, they feel that they aren't getting ripped off on the bar tab or by the girls. They feel safer in their own room.
Humans are strange creatures. And do strange things 🤣.
Want to give back to the board and those that are considering a trip to Sao Paolo.
First, a big shout out to PARSTIGER who responded to my private message and has updated me on the current status of SP. Thanks!
I have read ISG back to the beginning of 2020 and have 41 pages of information and reports saved on a word documents. I tend to over prepare, but it often helps. I have visited every online site, such as Clubmodel and Prvt55, and categorized the woman who are my potential victims. I had a list of over 50, which I then narrowed down by contacting them directly via whatsapp getting their rates and restrictions. After narrowing that down I went to the local website (GPU) and tried to find reviews. I still believe I will use the online gals as a standby. Prefer to hit the clubs and afternoon joints to get interaction and see if they are my type. My tastes is wide open except for HUGE asses and big legs. Silicon in the ass is yuck. I prefer the tall model type body. An 8 can turn into MY 10 of she is a kisser and BBBJ specialist!
I joined Seeking out of curiosity. Paid 110 USA For a months subscription. Made some contacts but suspecting waste of time and effort. I was looking for an English speaking lady to take out to dinner and hang with. I shouted out to a recent poster who said his dates on seeking were blismal. Was hoping he would provide the names directly to me so I could avoid them.
Quick background. Been to 10-12 countries for our sport, so not a newbie. Been going to Colombia past 7-8 years with about 25 trips under my belt there. Will compare the two when I return from SP.
I am on the wrong side of 60, and I believe that plays into ones activities. Not rich, not poor. I budget for my trips. I noticed many posters are fortunate enough to be able to stay at the 5 star places in SP, but I don't see the cost benefit for me. Elected to stay in Moema area. It's safe, close to the afternoon / evening facilities and there are a ton of girls who advertise on the escort websites within walking distance.
I am actually NOT much of a "quickie" guy, such as the afternoon boates provide. I do want to check them all out just in case the talent is to good to pass up for the cost.
I am a nightclub / strip club so my plan is to hit them up during the week (Tue, Wed. and Thur.) I have budgeted for a few nights at Scandallo and have the presence of mind to walk away from any tute that is asking too much. I prefer to session in my hotel room however after reading the reports it's clearly important to me to test drive them in the club.
I won't bore you further with my preparations. Just wanted to start with my methodology and see how it turns out. In the end, I prepare for my first time trips.
I arrive next week and if there is someone who wants to wing for a night, I am easy going. Been around the block and consider myself street savy. I don't consume much alcohol here in the USA But tend to enjoy my drinks in a club / party scene.
Scandallo, Cafe Foto, Bamboa and Casarao are the list of clubs I want to visit. Connections is off my list per the recent feedback I got from Parstiger.
Prime Clinica is probably going to be my first stop based on trip reports and body types.
Shoot me a private mail if you have thoughts or suggestions.
As a side note, I met the owner of this website 7 or 8 years ago in Medellin, Colombia, "Jackson". A person is never who / what you think they are until you meet them. Good guy. Wonder if he is still around. He was living in Argentina back then.
Fear probably has a lot to do with it also. Fear of getting robbed on the street, in the taxi or Uber, in the club since you don't speak the language. At the hotel, they feel that they aren't getting ripped off on the bar tab or by the girls. They feel safer in their own room.
Humans are strange creatures..I can vouch for the fear factor. The guys that are with me on my work trips to SP are absolutely terrified of leaving the hotel, or the one stark house that comes to pick us up when a reservation is made. The woman at our job avoid going there altogether, they are that scared.
Works great for me so I can ditch them and do my thing without having it spread at work.
Bomboa 40 is now Bomboa 222 (again). The first and last fotos are Aarii from 222. The second is Katherine from a place in Faria Lima, which should be avoided at all costs (409). The facilities are crap, the mgmt are a bunch of crooks. The next three fotos are the new interior at Casarao.
Cheers,
Stay Toxic, my friends!
Want to give back to the board and those that are considering a trip to Sao Paolo.
First, a big shout out to PARSTIGER who responded to my private message and has updated me on the current status of SP. Thanks!
I have read ISG back to the beginning of 2020 and have 41 pages of information and reports saved on a word documents. I tend to over prepare, but it often helps. I have visited every online site, such as Clubmodel and Prvt55, and categorized the woman who are my potential victims. I had a list of over 50, which I then narrowed down by contacting them directly via whatsapp getting their rates and restrictions. After narrowing that down I went to the local website (GPU) and tried to find reviews. I still believe I will use the online gals as a standby. Prefer to hit the clubs and afternoon joints to get interaction and see if they are my type. My tastes is wide open except for HUGE asses and big legs. Silicon in the ass is yuck. I prefer the tall model type body. An 8 can turn into MY 10 of she is a kisser and BBBJ specialist!.Zup JetSet?
Going to put this out to the board, not private M, so all can profit.
We are kindred spirits on type of woman and type of experience we would like to have with them. GFE all the way from dinner to bed! Sex without affection is not interesting.
I have used the prives / Clínicas, but I have not come across much affection there. It's assembly line sex. But you might run into a girl who might want to see you outside of the place for dinner etc.
I have been using PhotoAcompanantes and have had some good success, but have had some bad ones too. You can see my post on trying to up your odds of not getting bait and switched.
I have not been to Scandello, really would like to go.
Have been to Cafe Foto, expensive, but top notch girls, place was very nice inside, almost chique. But that was back before Covide, like 5 years ago. Have not been to Bombado, but was in touch with a girl that was working there, might go, looks like a smaller not as swank Scandello. Was at Caserao about 6 weeks ago, was not impressed at all. Unfriendly door guys, crap music, not many girls and the ones there I wouldn't do anything more than have a drink and chit chat for company, which is what I did. And that was on a Thursday night around 10 pm. Maybe it gets better later.
Happy mongering, hope you have a great time, pass along your exploits and comparison to Columbia when you can.
Lonster.
Vagabundo1
05-06-22, 15:24
Crime Fear in SP.
I agree.
SP is actually more dangerous than Rio IMHO and experience.
SP is not as happy, as it doesn't have the beach.
Brazilians flock to SP for money, including criminals who target gringos.
The Rio bombeiro cloths suite / suit works even better in cities outside of Rio.
No one in their right mind attacks an off duty military fireman (bombeiro militar) from Rio, who wears vasco gear too (vasco is famous for the most violent fans, the ones who will crack skulls in games over small offenses because they have nothing better to do. Vasco fans are Brazil's Afghans, they fight small wars because futbol isn't violent enough in itself, the broken bones, and occasional deaths, be damned, it is better than boredom).
I can vouch for the fear factor. The guys that are with me on my work trips to SP are absolutely terrified of leaving the hotel, or the one stark house that comes to pick us up when a reservation is made. The woman at our job avoid going there altogether, they are that scared.
Works great for me so I can ditch them and do my thing without having it spread at work.
Jimmy Boy 99
05-06-22, 16:29
I can vouch for the fear factor. The guys that are with me on my work trips to SP are absolutely terrified of leaving the hotel, or the one stark house that comes to pick us up when a reservation is made. The woman at our job avoid going there altogether, they are that scared.
Works great for me so I can ditch them and do my thing without having it spread at work.Where in SP are you staying that they are terrified of going out? Can you all not stay in a safer neighborhood? I am in Moema and am not scared to go out, even late evening.
Crime Fear in SP.
I agree.
SP is actually more dangerous than Rio IMHO and experience.
SP is not as happy, as it doesn't have the beach.
Brazilians flock to SP for money, including criminals who target gringos.
The Rio bombeiro cloths suite / suit works even better in cities outside of Rio.
No one in their right mind attacks an off duty military fireman (bombeiro militar) from Rio, who wears vasco gear too (vasco is famous for the most violent fans, the ones who will crack skulls in games over small offenses because they have nothing better to do. Vasco fans are Brazil's Afghans, they fight small wars because futbol isn't violent enough in itself, the broken bones, and occasional deaths, be damned, it is better than boredom).A gringo wearing a vasco suit or a bombeiro shirt is still a gringo. Albeit with a different set of clothes. Not going to stop the robbers. They will size him up in a second, realize he is a gringo and realize he doesn't speak the language and do their deed.
Now. A gringo who is confident and street smart, maintains eye contact with the locals, smiles when needs be and knows the basic language skills might make it to a restaurant or bar to duck into if he is being followed.
I have been going to SP for 10+ yrs consistently and never felt any danger. I feel Copa is way more dangerous and the only time I have been robbed in all my travels was in Copa, not paying attention to my surroundings and being a gringo. Bike robber got my chain. Wasn't injured but I grabbed his hand and it slipped out because he was sweaty. Oh well. Lesson learned.
Vagabundo1
05-06-22, 17:33
Ah, senor anaggie, we both know that neither of us are brancos, haha.
A part Asian who could be a Brazilian in coloring wearing bombeiro vasco local cloths who keeps his mouth shut especially in SP which has the most Asian population of any Brazilian city is better than the average gringo monger who wears a nascar shirt. A gringo who wears bombeiro vasco cloths who also "is confident and street smart, maintains eye contact with the locals, smiles when needs be and knows the basic language skills" is, all else equal, better off than the gringo who wears gringo cloths. Most criminals make their identify friend or foe (IFF) decision as fast as fighter pilots or infantry men with a rifle -- 6 seconds. The goal of wearing local cloths is to make the criminal move on to the next target.
I also agree completely with your statement: "I feel Copa is way more dangerous and the only time I have been robbed in all my travels was in Copa, not paying attention to my surroundings and being a gringo."
A gringo wearing a vasco suit or a bombeiro shirt is still a gringo. Albeit with a different set of clothes. Not going to stop the robbers. They will size him up in a second, realize he is a gringo and realize he doesn't speak the language and do their deed.
Now. A gringo who is confident and street smart, maintains eye contact with the locals, smiles when needs be and knows the basic language skills might make it to a restaurant or bar to duck into if he is being followed.
I have been going to SP for 10+ yrs consistently and never felt any danger. I feel Copa is way more dangerous and the only time I have been robbed in all my travels was in Copa, not paying attention to my surroundings and being a gringo. Bike robber got my chain. Wasn't injured but I grabbed his hand and it slipped out because he was sweaty. Oh well. Lesson learned.
A gringo wearing a vasco suit or a bombeiro shirt is still a gringo. Albeit with a different set of clothes. Not going to stop the robbers. They will size him up in a second, realize he is a gringo and realize he doesn't speak the language and do their deed.
Now. A gringo who is confident and street smart, maintains eye contact with the locals, smiles when needs be and knows the basic language skills might make it to a restaurant or bar to duck into if he is being followed.
I have been going to SP for 10+ yrs consistently and never felt any danger. I feel Copa is way more dangerous and the only time I have been robbed in all my travels was in Copa, not paying attention to my surroundings and being a gringo. Bike robber got my chain. Wasn't injured but I grabbed his hand and it slipped out because he was sweaty. Oh well. Lesson learned.I also feel more danger in Rio than in Sampa, particularly in Copa and in Centro at night in some of those dark streets. That said, there are so many parts of Sampa I have not been to. I'm sure it has its own really bad spots. I know it does. But from a personal experience standpoint, and except for driving where I think the Paulistas are worse than the Cariocas (imagine that), for me I fear crime more in Rio than in Sampa. For this reason, I'm always on extra alert in Rio. Compare that for example to Moema where I have felt zero fear at all times of day and night. Lucky for me nothing bad has happened to me in either city. One thing that really helps me is that I look Brazilian. I easily pass for Brazilian and for the most part can move about without drawing any unnecessary and / or unwanted attention to myself. And that's how I like to keep it too.
I have been going to SP for 10+ yrs consistently and never felt any danger. I feel Copa is way more dangerous and the only time I have been robbed in all my travels was in Copa, not paying attention to my surroundings and being a gringo. Bike robber got my chain. Wasn't injured but I grabbed his hand and it slipped out because he was sweaty. Oh well. Lesson learned.I've lived in SP for 8 yrs, been going to Rio off and on for 45 yrs. The only problems I've had in Rio were street punks trying to snatch and' grab cellphone, wallet, or parcels I was carrying home from the mercado. Was attacked in SP by a homeless and possibly mentally challenged older gentleman. I went for my folding knife and sliced him across the triceps. He scurried away quickly experiencing I imagine intense discomfort.
My Portuguese is decent, I'm also a USN combat vet who works out, 65 yrs old with a gray beard so I have the appearance of prey. Not!
Cheers,
Stay Toxic, my friends!
Gigi Buffon
05-06-22, 20:20
Crime Fear in SP.
I agree.
SP is actually more dangerous than Rio IMHO and experience.
SP is not as happy, as it doesn't have the beach.
Brazilians flock to SP for money, including criminals who target gringos.
The Rio bombeiro cloths suite / suit works even better in cities outside of Rio.
No one in their right mind attacks an off duty military fireman (bombeiro militar) from Rio, who wears vasco gear too (vasco is famous for the most violent fans, the ones who will crack skulls in games over small offenses because they have nothing better to do. Vasco fans are Brazil's Afghans, they fight small wars because futbol isn't violent enough in itself, the broken bones, and occasional deaths, be damned, it is better than boredom).You have been in Rio long enough to be able to read the environment, others have been in Sampa long enough to feel the same way you do in Rio. I have been in both for very long period of time and I can say that I feel unsafe in Rio, even walking like a local wearing just a zunga, havaianas and a towel in front of Ipanema beach. Regarding football fans, once you go to a Corinthians vs Palmeiras game, we can sit an exchange impressions.
Stinky Squid
05-06-22, 21:33
You have been in Rio long enough to be able to read the environment, others have been in Sampa long enough to feel the same way you do in Rio. I have been in both for very long period of time and I can say that I feel unsafe in Rio, even walking like a local wearing just a zunga, havaianas and a towel in front of Ipanema beach. Regarding football fans, once you go to a Corinthians vs Palmeiras game, we can sit an exchange impressions.I used to live in Rio for the long term, lived on top of a favela even. I have had a bullet from an AK47 pierce through a brick wall (these thing ones they use here) and land on my porch. I have hidden in the inner bathroom as armed bandits were jumping over the roofs around us. I had my girlfriend almost killed. And yet, down below, I have always heard that it's even less safe, because you're exposed to random crime, which isn't the case on the hill. Rio is the most beautiful city in the world but with this lush geography of green hills and parks and beach comes two MAJOR problems (1) the whole city is sprinkled with favelas, from where the robbers emerge and disappear., and (2) this geography also causes very long ways between places with traffic jams and all. If you try to go from Copacabana to Jacarepagua, it's an odyssey. If you go from Centro Se to Japaquara, it's just a metro trip.
In Rio, I had all my valuables stolen on a fucking bus at the Novo Rio bus terminal by some molek who snatched my backpack from the luggage rack and just went out. Rio is a disaster that way. You can feel it if you compare the Rio bus terminal with Sampa Tiete, what a peaceful experience in Sao Paulo!
For years I drove by Sao Paulo and thought how ugly Sampa is and how I would never want to live here. But the truth is, if you like big cities, like Belin for example, and you stay in Centro, Bela Vista, for example, you live that same life of urban tranquility. The homeless around the cathedral are a nuisance, but they don't pose a threat other than petty crime maybe. And lately I even like mongering in Sao Paulo more than in Rio. I just came from Rio to Sao Paulo and already much happier with my day today.
Stinky Squid
05-06-22, 22:08
When you go on Photoacompanhante and you look for Centro, Bela Vista, Republica and Higienopolis-Mackenzie, chances are more often than not the girl is in Rua Avanhandava 459. It's always like teeth pulling to get their actual address. The ads of these girls are enticing with lovely photos. The stupid web site might even say the photos are verified (useless idiots these people who run photoacompanhantes.com.br and photoprepagos. Co and sexoservidora. Mx.) But the truth is a different one. Last night I was looking frantically for a quick blowjob before bedtime while in centro. And all these lovely chicks advertise there. But something smelled fishy whenever they said they were at Rua Avanhandava 459. Some of their auto-greetings on whatsapp were even exactly the same.
I had a super session with lovely and friendly girl down in Jabaquara before noon, so I was in very good mood. Let me get that out of the way. I am so happy. That girl works in a pretty frequented establishment, but me going in the morning evaded the crowd and had a chance of getting her fresh, unused in the morning. I usually have more interaction on WhatsApp (for good reasons that become clear below) with her I didn't, simply because I really liked her physique in the pictures, and her ad seemed real, the text less boiler plate and more personal. I just had to meet her, and so I set up the meeting for when she'd start her day and went. When we met we had instant chemistry, and she was really nice. She had a little alcohol I smelled that from her breath, but I got to smell her from really close up which means we actually made love, kissing and face to face sex with some eye gazing. She was going all moaning and almost screaming, which I thought was exaggerated and unnecessary for me, but it went along with some real connection, so didn't seem only a performance. I enjoyed her and I think I will have her for an all-nighter on Sunday or so (in a hotel that won't scold me for a loudly moaning girl in my room, haha). I am a little in love, not really, although we might even be friends, as she is studying in my area and we had good conversation about that subject. This girl made not only my day, she wiped out my blues from a bad time in Rio.
Anyway, as I returned back to centro, I decided I need to check out some of these lovely girls from the ads close to where I stay. And all those ads were leading me to Rua Avanhandava 459. I was worried that would be a scheme like Alvaro de Carvalho 107, where they suck you in with pretty ads and you go and wait and some girl comes to attend you who you haven't ever messaged. Not so here. It is just a normal apartment building, but lots of girls there. Something of the kind that Rua Major Diogo 39 once was (and apparently is no more). I went and the girl who opened the door was actually quite pretty for my taste, perhaps a 3 years older version from the super cute girl in the photos, what she was at 18 years old or so. Not sure. Probably not the same girl, but close. I liked her. But oh the attitude sucked very quickly. And that was the one time that I didn't ask probing questions on WhatsApp before. I do that quite a bit, I ask them specifically about the things they check on their profiles, and very often I am getting ignored or get evasive answers. Then I already know it's not going to be worth it. It's frustrating when what you hope for blows up in smoke over messages. But better this than wasting an hour of my day to go down like with this one. The way she told me I was supposed to lie down, this way, not that way, then she rubbed her hands with a liquid and I said, oh, you want to give me a massage? And she like "no, that's alcohol". Oh man. Very stiff and bureaucratic. When she took out the condom for the BJ, that was advertised as BBBJ, I complained. And then she gave me a lecture about HPV and shit like this, and I just cancelled the session, lost the money, but saved my time and sanity.
As I complained that her ad was all lies, she said she isn't responsible for the ad, she just works for an agency as do most girls around there. And that's the thing here. These fucking agencies who try to get clients with these exaggerated ads. This was also why so many at Major Diogo 39 sucked (except for the one girl I told you couple of years ago you had to visit while she lasted). Now I have a much better feel for looking for signs of authenticity in the ads, and just not waste my time any more about these perfect ads when there is any red flag.
Tomorrow I go back to Vila Mariana to a session with another super pretty one (too good to be true? But she confirmed to my probing question that she will squirt for me. So I will give her this chance. At least she isn't in Rua Avanhandava 459.
Carpaccio18
05-06-22, 23:32
Excuse the newbie question, but what's the best (well safest way for a newbie gringo) way of getting to Scandallo? Uber?
If you want to take company back to the hotel, also Uber?
Vagabundo1
05-07-22, 01:35
Further, I find the following helpful for security.
Humor. Most times I talk to a local, I say of myself, Sou Carioca do fake or Carioca falsa, because obviously with my gringo accent, I am a fake in contrast to a carioca the gema. I find some humor does help de escalate, and is a little verbal judo.
Other brands that I wear in order of helpfulness.
Decathlon, a global brand, shop here if you are coming to Brazil, and it is widely available in Brazil.
Invictus (not 5. 11) tactical cloths, same as what off duty policia federal wear, which sends a message, context dependent (don't wear it to a favela).
Red Cross Brazil shirt, bought somewhere in centro.
South & Co beach wear, especially the cargo shorts with lots of small pockets including with zippers -- the locals pick up on local brands almost immediately. Bella donna went out and bought Vagabundo 1000 reais worth of South & Co beach wear because she hated, hated the bombeiro cloths.
Bad Boy Jiu Jitsu tank top. Internash, to his credit, went with me and a brit into the popular mercado at metro uruguiana, and turned down the suggestion to buy a vasco futbol shirt, but opted instead for a MMA light shirt, a Bad Boy Jiu jitsu tank top; he did buy at the Casa de bombeiro a guardio do piscina light cap, super light and comfortable, and again, licensed by the city, and no one is going to sweat you wearing a lifeguard ball cap, but it accomplishes the mission of making the criminal move onto the next target in the 6 second identify friend or foe.
Finally, and real story, the bombeiro wallet. About a year ago, vagabundo was in an uber in zona norte with monique. We were stopped by policia militar. We were searched. They found a half smoked joint on her. The also found a bombeiro wallet on Vagabundo, and one cop said to the other, "bombeiro" and decided against taking us to the station. For that alone all my various shopping at the casa bombeiro was well worth it, to me.
Ah, senor anaggie, we both know that neither of us are brancos, haha.
Excuse the newbie question, but what's the best (well safest way for a newbie gringo) way of getting to Scandallo? Uber?
If you want to take company back to the hotel, also Uber?Yes. And yes. They will also have taxis outside Scandello which are perfectly safe to take.
SamaRiding
05-07-22, 07:15
Was at Caserao about 6 weeks ago, was not impressed at all. Unfriendly door guys, crap music, not many girls and the ones there I wouldn't do anything more than have a drink and chit chat for company, which is what I did. And that was on a Thursday night around 10 pm. Maybe it gets better.
Lonster.Casarao is a late night boate. It doesn't open until 10 p. I made the same mistake the first time I went. Got there just after 10 p and it was dead. It filled up a little but I was getting bored and planning my exit to Scandallo at 12 a. When I paid my bill and was heading out the door, a group of hot girls walked past me and walked in. I was WTF and thought for a sec and followed them back into the club. Best decision I made. The club started to pack in after. So, don't go to Casaroa much before midnight, that's when a lot of girls start showing up.
Decathlon, a global brand, shop here if you are coming to Brazil, and it is widely available in Brazil.
Invictus (not 5. 11) tactical cloths, same as what off duty policia federal wear, which sends a message, context dependent (don't wear it to a favela).
Red Cross Brazil shirt, bought somewhere in centro.
South & Co beach wear, especially the cargo shorts with lots of small pockets including with zippers -- the locals pick up on local brands almost immediately. Bella donna went out and bought Vagabundo 1000 reais worth of South & Co beach wear because she hated, hated the bombeiro cloths.This may work in RJ, but wearing bombeiro gear or other shit you mention in Jardins, Moema, Itaim or Vila Olimpia, where I go out on weekends in SP, is a sure way to draw unnecessary attention. When I'm in SP I dress exactly the same way I dress at home; jeans, shirt, t-shirt or polo shirt and nice shoes and that is how the locals dress in those areas when they go out. I'm sure it's different in RJ, but that is not the way to go in SP. Kudos to Bella Donna for slowing you down.
Dang, have to change my plans for day one in SP. Got to hit the malls and El Centro for the proper clothes. Who would have thought. My gringo looks will disappear in a flash. Thanks!
Further, I find the following helpful for security. (Buy local brands)
This may work in RJ, but wearing bombeiro gear or other shit you mention in Jardins, Moema, Itaim or Vila Olimpia, where I go out on weekends in SP, is a sure way to draw unnecessary attention.....In my first visit to Medellin many years ago I bought a t-shirt with some sort of sports insignia on it. I got thumbs up from some guys and harsh looks from others. I learnt my lesson.
Stinky Squid
05-07-22, 19:07
I really don't get what y'all are going on about wearing special clothes and being all scared in Sampa. I've been in Jabaquara to Santana and it's just fine.
Even I thought Santana was iffy, but it has a few addresses that kept coming up, some Dr. Cesar 209 and Henrique Bernadelli 119. Now I checked personally, and they are all in fine commercial neighborhoods. No worries. I can't even find Cesar 209 as these are all fine stores. And the Bernadelli 119 is a pretty nice looking Villa. I'm trying to muster some hornyness to actually go in and try them out for you, but I don't feel the need.
Earlier I got annoyed by another scam (like nothing really bad, just totally not what's advertized. Then another one, which I saved my time by telling the person per WhatsApp straight on that I walk out if it's not what's advertized, and that got me no response and then a block. So I knew.
Anyway, Bernadelli 119, I would go visit if I'm in the mood. And don't worry so much.
In my first visit to Medellin many years ago I bought a t-shirt with some sort of sports insignia on it. I got thumbs up from some guys and harsh looks from others. I learnt my lesson.If I wear any kind of football shirt in Brazil, it's the national team colors. Nobody has a problem with that LOL.
This may work in RJ, but wearing bombeiro gear or other shit you mention in Jardins, Moema, Itaim or Vila Olimpia, where I go out on weekends in SP, is a sure way to draw unnecessary attention. When I'm in SP I dress exactly the same way I dress at home; jeans, shirt, t-shirt or polo shirt and nice shoes and that is how the locals dress in those areas when they go out. I'm sure it's different in RJ, but that is not the way to go in SP. Kudos to Bella Donna for slowing you down.Exactly. This is how I dress whether I am in rio or in SP or anywhere else in the world. I don't feel the need to wear clothes to try to match the locals.
Please do not wear any MMA shirts or jiu jitsu shirts if you don't know or train those arts. Not only will someone try to test you and once they find out that you aren't in shape or know anything about fighting, they will take advantage. Take it from me. I laugh at those fat jokers who wear those shirts. I can tell within 5 secs by the way you walk and talk if you know anything about self defense. I have trained for over 12 years in close quarter combat martial arts and am a black belt in BJJ so I know how to avoid confrontation at all costs. Do not carry a knife with you unless you are trained in using it. The last thing you want is to have it taken away and used on you but the other guy.
Common sense and being aware of your surroundings will save your life in sticky situations. Once you are inside a safe area, you can let your guard down a bit but not 100%. Train to spot exits and try to keep your back to a wall. Other than that, relax, smile and have fun. People aren't out to get you or hurt you 99% of the time.
I really don't get what y'all are going on about wearing special clothes and being all scared in Sampa. I've been in Jabaquara to Santana and it's just fine.
Even I thought Santana was iffy, but it has a few addresses that kept coming up, some Dr. Cesar 209 and Henrique Bernadelli 119. Now I checked personally, and they are all in fine commercial neighborhoods. No worries. I can't even find Cesar 209 as these are all fine stores. And the Bernadelli 119 is a pretty nice looking Villa. I'm trying to muster some hornyness to actually go in and try them out for you, but I don't feel the need.
Earlier I got annoyed by another scam (like nothing really bad, just totally not what's advertized. Then another one, which I saved my time by telling the person per WhatsApp straight on that I walk out if it's not what's advertized, and that got me no response and then a block. So I knew.
Anyway, Bernadelli 119, I would go visit if I'm in the mood. And don't worry so much.Hey Stinky,
Really good advice, thanks.
I too have been curious about Bernardelli 119. Most here seem to think it is a bait and switch type place as those woman we see using that address on Photoacom won't actually be there when one arrives for their session, and will be offered other girls.
I am on the fence as to go, as it is a hike for me, and don't want to get there expecting to meet a hottie from the site only to be offered something else. But the hotness of the girls advertising with that address is enticing.
Casarao is a late night boate. It doesn't open until 10 p. I made the same mistake the first time I went. Got there just after 10 p and it was dead. It filled up a little but I was getting bored and planning my exit to Scandallo at 12 a. When I paid my bill and was heading out the door, a group of hot girls walked past me and walked in. I was WTF and thought for a sec and followed them back into the club. Best decision I made. The club started to pack in after. So, don't go to Casaroa much before midnight, that's when a lot of girls start showing up.Thank you for the lowdown.
I will actually be in SP tomorrow, have plans to be in Baixa Augusta for drinks, finishing around 11. Might try Casarao again as I will be right there.
If any mongers are available, maybe we can hang out there.
When you go on Photoacompanhante and you look for Centro, Bela Vista, Republica and Higienopolis-Mackenzie, chances are more often than not the girl is in Rua Avanhandava 459. It's always like teeth pulling to get their actual address. The ads of these girls are enticing with lovely photos. The stupid web site might even say the photos are verified (useless idiots these people who run photoacompanhantes.com.br and photoprepagos. Co and sexoservidora. Mx.) But the truth is a different one. Last night I was looking frantically for a quick blowjob before bedtime while in centro. And all these lovely chicks advertise there. But something smelled fishy whenever they said they were at Rua Avanhandava 459. Some of their auto-greetings on whatsapp were even exactly the same.
I had a super session with lovely and friendly girl down in Jabaquara before noon, so I was in very good mood. Let me get that out of the way. I am so happy. That girl works in a pretty frequented establishment, but me going in the morning evaded the crowd and had a chance of getting her fresh, unused in the morning. I usually have more interaction on WhatsApp (for good reasons that become clear below) with her I didn't, simply because I really liked her physique in the pictures, and her ad seemed real, the text less boiler plate and more personal...I had virtually the same experience with that same address. Classic bait and switch, completely diff girl. I did what you did, paid and left. I didn't blame the girl, she had no idea I was coming as we had never communicated. She is just there to service whomever arrives, and that service will be the bare min with zero skin to skin contact.
3 times after, "girls" gave me that address, when their ad had a different neighborhood, and I bailed each time.
That building is bad ju-ju.
I really don't get what y'all are going on about wearing special clothes and being all scared in Sampa. I've been in Jabaquara to Santana and it's just fine.
Even I thought Santana was iffy, but it has a few addresses that kept coming up, some Dr. Cesar 209 and Henrique Bernadelli 119. Now I checked personally, and they are all in fine commercial neighborhoods. No worries. I can't even find Cesar 209 as these are all fine stores. And the Bernadelli 119 is a pretty nice looking Villa. I'm trying to muster some hornyness to actually go in and try them out for you, but I don't feel the need.
Earlier I got annoyed by another scam (like nothing really bad, just totally not what's advertized. Then another one, which I saved my time by telling the person per WhatsApp straight on that I walk out if it's not what's advertized, and that got me no response and then a block. So I knew.
Anyway, Bernadelli 119, I would go visit if I'm in the mood. And don't worry so much.Was just checking Photoacom and one of the first girls ad was for Bernardelli 119, Juliana Sales is her post name.
She is a 9+, in my book anyway.
I highly doubt if I booked with her I would actually meet the girl in those photos there. Just too good to be true. But. I would really really love to live her, which makes me want to try even though I am pretty sure it's bait and switch. The mongers dilemma.
Vagabundo1
05-07-22, 21:15
To the list, I would add.
The bombeiro shorts, which internash also got. They are super comfortable. And a bombeiro civil badge on a chain.
Even the least threatening ISGer I know here carries a blade. I would just suggest finding a good place to have it sharpened.
There's a logical list of escalation of force, all for defense.
A camera -- most criminals will go the other direction when photographed.
A smart phone to call uber, and the cops (190 in Rio, 192 for emergency medical, 193 for bombeiro). Knowing the numbers of local and your home company law enforcement who carry guns. Talking to your wingmen, even if only briefly -- if we run into a problem, call uber.
A flashlight.
The taser in the flashlight.
Leather gloves ($25 reais at casa de bombeiro).
I have been out with other ISGers with extensive MMA credentials who are victims of having their cell phones stolen at gunpoint in SP (not something I have heard of in RJ). While I respect your view, I am just saying that in the 6 seconds it takes for that thief coming down a business avenue in SP to decide to strike or not to strike, he can be persuaded to pick the next victim if you're wearing a Brazilian bombeiro shorts and a vasco / palmeiras Jersey, and a Brazilian lifeguard cap. I may or may not be right, and I haven't kept track of the attackers who have moved on and not attacked me because I had some Brazilian cloths on. Lastly, I live here, and am not just in for 3 days.
Knives are a interesting topic. I make it part of my boxing training a few times a week to hold the blade correctly, to adjust the lanyard so it fits around the leather gloves, etc. Most mongers are not trained, and do not train, just as most come in for short periods.
If you're paying 2000 reais a night for girls on short trips, there is no point in robbing you; quite the contrary, its better to just let you rob yourself kkk.
Exactly. This is how I dress whether I am in rio or in SP or anywhere else in the world. I don't feel the need to wear clothes to try to match the locals.
Please do not wear any MMA shirts or jiu jitsu shirts if you don't know or train those arts. Not only will someone try to test you and once they find out that you aren't in shape or know anything about fighting, they will take advantage. Take it from me. I laugh at those fat jokers who wear those shirts. I can tell within 5 secs by the way you walk and talk if you know anything about self defense. I have trained for over 12 years in close quarter combat martial arts and am a black belt in BJJ so I know how to avoid confrontation at all costs. Do not carry a knife with you unless you are trained in using it. The last thing you want is to have it taken away and used on you but the other guy..
To the list, I would add.
The bombeiro shorts, which internash also got. They are super comfortable. And a bombeiro civil badge on a chain.
Even the least threatening ISGer I know here carries a blade. I would just suggest finding a good place to have it sharpened.
There's a logical list of escalation of force, all for defense.
A camera -- most criminals will go the other direction when photographed.
A smart phone to call uber, and the cops (190 in Rio, 192 for emergency medical, 193 for bombeiro). Knowing the numbers of local and your home company law enforcement who carry guns. Talking to your wingmen, even if only briefly -- if we run into a problem, call uber.
A flashlight.
The taser in the flashlight.
Leather gloves ($25 reais at casa de bombeiro).
I have been out with other ISGers with extensive MMA credentials who are victims of having their cell phones stolen at gunpoint in SP (not something I have heard of in RJ). While I respect your view, I am just saying that in the 6 seconds it takes for that thief coming down a business avenue in SP to decide to strike or not to strike, he can be persuaded to pick the next victim if you're wearing a Brazilian bombeiro shorts and a vasco / palmeiras Jersey, and a Brazilian lifeguard cap. I may or may not be right, and I haven't kept track of the attackers who have moved on and not attacked me because I had some Brazilian cloths on. Lastly, I live here, and am not just in for 3 days.
Knives are a interesting topic. I make it part of my boxing training a few times a week to hold the blade correctly, to adjust the lanyard so it fits around the leather gloves, etc. Most mongers are not trained, and do not train, just as most come in for short periods.
If you're paying 2000 reais a night for girls on short trips, there is no point in robbing you; quite the contrary, its better to just let you rob yourself kkk.There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP. So, if one lives in Brazil and fucks the favela girls. Good for him. If a monger comes to town and fucks the top end Scandello girls and pays 2 k per night (which BTW I have never done) . Good for him. It is the CHOICE of the person with the cash in hand. Neither is better or worse.
I will tell you what. Next time I am in town, we will set up a tour of the places you go to to see what I can find. I won't go to 4 x4, and I will meet you at whatever place you frequent and see what plays out. I will also wear normal clothes while you dress like a "Brazilian" and let's see if I get robbed or attacked.
Vagabundo1
05-08-22, 05:45
With all respect, Senor Anaggie, according to your own reports, you've paid 3200 reais for 4 girls in 8 hours at 4 x4, you've paid a girl 2000 reais per night (gave her a iphone which cost 800 USD in the states for 2 nights) to take her to buzios, not counting the cost of lodging. I list the places I go very often in both SP and RJ -- the tier 1 clinicas and prives, which are 250 meters from 4 x4, and the cost is 150 r per hour or 250 per hour in RJ. It's easy to find the list of the prives / clinicas from my reports, or you can go to gparena.net and click on prives. I'm doing the same girls from 4 x4 and tier 1 termas, but I never pay more than 500 are a night, and some of them I do for 25 pernoites for months, basically because I live here, and I don't session in the termas, rather I just get them back to my place.
A very large percentage of the girls in 4 x4 are from favelas, and a large number of the girls from tier 1 termas go to Mosaico, ie, Vila Mimosa, at midnight if they haven't made enough money, and their cost per fuck goes down by half (from 400 per hour to 200 per hour). Even the girls from out of town, like Penelope, who work at 4 x4 end up going into favelas to socialize. Moreover, Copacabana, where most mongers stay, is so dangerous because it is in a favela or many of them.
There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP. So, if one lives in Brazil and fucks the favela girls. Good for him. If a monger comes to town and fucks the top end Scandello girls and pays 2 k per night (which BTW I have never done) . Good for him. It is the CHOICE of the person with the cash in hand. Neither is better or worse.
I will tell you what. Next time I am in town, we will set up a tour of the places you go to to see what I can find. I won't go to 4 x4, and I will meet you at whatever place you frequent and see what plays out. I will also wear normal clothes while you dress like a "Brazilian" and let's see if I get robbed or attacked.
Vagabundo1
05-08-22, 07:15
There's a map from the economist. It has a section titled the location of favelas.
There are 3 enlargements.
Copa, which is in the middle of favelas, where most mongers, including Senor Anaggie stay. It's right there in your reports.
Centro / 4 x 4, in the middle of favelas.
Barra the Tijuca, which is not in favelas, in fact is the only area in Rio outside of the favelas.
https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2021/08/14/rio-de-janeiro-asks-why-its-cops-kill-so-many-black-people
There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP. So, if one lives in Brazil and fucks the favela girls. Good for him. If a monger comes to town and fucks the top end Scandello girls and pays 2 k per night (which BTW I have never done) . Good for him. It is the choice of the person with the cash in hand. Neither is better or worse.
I will tell you what. Next time I am in town, we will set up a tour of the places you go to to see what I can find. I won't go to 4 x4, and I will meet you at whatever place you frequent and see what plays out. I will also wear normal clothes while you dress like a "Brazilian" and let's see if I get robbed or attacked.
There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP...One will pay more when one's time is worth more because if you can convert time to money he will save money when he pays for the convenience to save time. That is how I look at it.
How do you tell what is low class in Scandallo? I don't think you can. Although I think I know what you mean but you are not making the right comparison in this case based on your reason. Many girls starting out from the Scandello shared apartment nearby. Those girls fit into your low class description but do you not pick these girls if they tell you where they live? They also evolve so eventually they may have an apartment on their own, and that makes them high class? I have sat between these girls and heard them bad mouth other girls from time to time. One time a girl mentioned she lived in an apartment on her own, and the other girl asked her to share her apartment with her. The other girl was actually way hotter than the girl with apartment. Personally, I will pick the hotter girl. I probably can get her cheaper too.
With all respect, Senor Anaggie, according to your own reports, you've paid 3200 reais for 4 girls in 8 hours at 4 x4, you've paid a girl 2000 reais per night (gave her a iphone which cost 800 USD in the states for 2 nights) to take her to buzios, not counting the cost of lodging. I list the places I go very often in both SP and RJ -- the tier 1 clinicas and prives, which are 250 meters from 4 x4, and the cost is 150 r per hour or 250 per hour in RJ. It's easy to find the list of the prives / clinicas from my reports, or you can go to gparena.net and click on prives. I'm doing the same girls from 4 x4 and tier 1 termas, but I never pay more than 500 are a night, and some of them I do for 25 pernoites for months, basically because I live here, and I don't session in the termas, rather I just get them back to my place.
A very large percentage of the girls in 4 x4 are from favelas, and a large number of the girls from tier 1 termas go to Mosaico, ie, Vila Mimosa, at midnight if they haven't made enough money, and their cost per fuck goes down by half (from 400 per hour to 200 per hour). Even the girls from out of town, like Penelope, who work at 4 x4 end up going into favelas to socialize. Moreover, Copacabana, where most mongers stay, is so dangerous because it is in a favela or many of them.Let's just get the math worked out.
3200 for 4 different girls in one night at 4 x4 . One session was a threesome in a bigger suite and that also included all the drinks for myself and the girls who I was talking with. All BBFS sessions except the first one which I had to get out of the way to blow the first wad.
The buzios chick was THREE nights (one in RJ and two in Buzios) for $800 not including lodging which I would have to pay for whether in SP / Rio / Buzios so that is a sunk cost. She was definitely an 8+ from Scandello and it was sex on demand all weekend.
So. Still haven't hit 2 k per night.
Am I paying more than you? OF COURSE. . You fucking live there. That has been agreed on this board over and over again. And in your favor. The issue is that you keep telling people how to do it YOUR way as if that is the only way.
Live and let live. My man.
I follow a philosophy that Bruce Lee followed whenever you learn something or get new information:
"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own. ".
One will pay more when one's time is worth more because if you can convert time to money he will save money when he pays for the convenience to save time. That is how I look at it.
How do you tell what is low class in Scandallo? I don't think you can. Although I think I know what you mean but you are not making the right comparison in this case based on your reason. Many girls starting out from the Scandello shared apartment nearby. Those girls fit into your low class description but do you not pick these girls if they tell you where they live? They also evolve so eventually they may have an apartment on their own, and that makes them high class? I have sat between these girls and heard them bad mouth other girls from time to time. One time a girl mentioned she lived in an apartment on her own, and the other girl asked her to share her apartment with her. The other girl was actually way hotter than the girl with apartment. Personally, I will pick the hotter girl. I probably can get her cheaper too.Agreed. Maybe I am not making the right comparison. I am sure they all have started from the bottom but they have become more cultured and classy. I just don't see that in the Rio boates. It is the same quality year in year out. In fact, I feel it has gotten worse lately. I now use rio as a place to blow the first pent up load and then use SP to truly enjoy the women. Plus, I need to maintain my relationship with my agent and he likes taking me to 4 X4 so there is that.
I follow a philosophy that Bruce Lee followed whenever you learn something or get new information:
"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own..Very good advice when it comes to mongering, or anything else for that matter.
Let's just get the math worked out.
3200 for 4 different girls in one night at 4 x4 . One session was a threesome in a bigger suite and that also included all the drinks for myself and the girls who I was talking with. All BBFS sessions except the first one which I had to get out of the way to blow the first wad.
The buzios chick was THREE nights (one in RJ and two in Buzios) for $800 not including lodging which I would have to pay for whether in SP / Rio / Buzios so that is a sunk cost. She was definitely an 8+ from Scandello and it was sex on demand all weekend.
So. Still haven't hit 2 k per night.
Am I paying more than you? OF COURSE. . You fucking live there. That has been agreed on this board over and over again. And in your favor. The issue is that you keep telling people how to do it YOUR way as if that is the only way.
Live and let live. My man.
I follow a philosophy that Bruce Lee followed whenever you learn something or get new information:
"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own. ".Can't go back and edit. Since it just hit me. I am taking the 2 k per night as 2 k for one girl per night. VB might mean it as spending 2 k in one night. If that is case, then definitely I am guilty of thag .. in more ways than one😜
Stinky Squid
05-08-22, 14:40
Hey Stinky
I too have been curious about Bernardelli 119. Most here seem to think it is a bait and switch type place as those woman we see using that address on Photoacom won't actually be there when one arrives for their session, and will be offered other girls.
I am on the fence as to go, as it is a hike for me, and don't want to get there expecting to meet a hottie from the site only to be offered something else. But the hotness of the girls advertising with that address is enticing.I would not expetct any of them to be there, but rather just go and see what lineup they have. I just did a mass contact campaign to dozens of these and the first challenge is getting them to respond at all. Especially today on Mother's day. Brazilians take their Foobar day very seriously. I remember when I first set foot on Brazil it was mother's day and I struggled to get anyone to come and it wasn't good. My 12 year Brazil anniversary, need to accomplish something special today. So I messaged like 50 or so with a special request. Now we'll see what comes in until the early afternoon when I will commit. I'd be more than willing to go back to Santana and try this address.
I have one night here, tonight, Mother's Day.
Meeting my main babe for drinks near Baixa Augusta around 9 pm, then going to give Casarão another shot, probably getting there around 11. If any mongers are around, let's kickit'.
I am a 50 something gringo, 6' tall, will be wearing jeans, nice collared shirt with a dark blue jacket.
Don't plan on banging a chick there tonight, just a night cap to scope for future mongering.
Lonnie.
Vagabundo1
05-08-22, 16:20
The next time you're in Rio.
Take your agent to.
Massagemtijuca.com.br
Next to Maracana stadium.
Perola negra.
Ave de pepe 400.
Mosaico after midnight.
Praca bandeira.
Can't go back and edit. Since it just hit me. I am taking the 2 k per night as 2 k for one girl per night. VB might mean it as spending 2 k in one night. If that is case, then definitely I am guilty of thag .. in more ways than one😜
Stinky Squid
05-09-22, 01:07
While you're all going gaga over Rio and being scared of shit in Sampa, I managed to get on the agenda of the famous Isis in the Discovery Hotel, Santana. Getting an appointment with that garota is like teeth pulling, only Neca Santos is more difficult. But now that I did it for you, I saved you the effort, because in my view this is totally not worth it. I, being a deepthroat fanatic had to check this off my list, but I am now relieved that it's done and I don't have to struggle about getting an appointment with her ever again! The problem with that girl is that she regards her service as a technique which she administers like surgery. There is none of that interaction that's part of a deepthroat program, she won't even let you touch her head, and you think going to a specialist spares you complaints? Think again! The only thing good about her is she's cheap. Getting serviced by a cheap girl has a special meaning to it, so I could still sort of enjoy and not get hung up on the disappointed. But man, my time with my pornstarlet friend GiPaes remains in my memory. She was expensive, but worth it. And it's not that you get what you pay for, no, but there are just different kinds of girls. And then the Mineiras are so friendly. If you go on GiPaes' onlyfans you can even see some video "production" that we did, that comes out of my sick mind. Haha. So now you know who not to run after and who you might want to try and catch a session with before she moves away to the UK. It's like with Kelly Oliveira, missed her by about a year and now that gal is in Berlin taking 1000 euros for the session. But boy, what a loss not having known her whenshe was still in RJ! Now I have one final todo item on my check list, and that's Neca Santos. I already told her I will have to give her a spanking if ever I actually get to meet her, just for the way she gave me a hard time. But after today with Isis, I can also rest relaxed that often all those imaginations are not what's really in store anyway when it's your turn in the waiting list, if only there was a waiting list! Getting a ride with Neca Santos is harder than buying a confirmed train ticket in India.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/o-melhor-oral-da-sua-vida-isis-garganta-profunda-id-8hy7e
As of date, does Brazil and the US still require negative test when bording flights? Thanks.
"Class" is a broad term. Could be "socio-economic" class. "educated" class. "character" class. Etc etc. For me character is the most important.
One will pay more when one's time is worth more because if you can convert time to money he will save money when he pays for the convenience to save time. That is how I look at it.
How do you tell what is low class in Scandallo? I don't think you can. Although I think I know what you mean but you are not making the right comparison in this case based on your reason. Many girls starting out from the Scandello shared apartment nearby. Those girls fit into your low class description but do you not pick these girls if they tell you where they live? They also evolve so eventually they may have an apartment on their own, and that makes them high class? I have sat between these girls and heard them bad mouth other girls from time to time. One time a girl mentioned she lived in an apartment on her own, and the other girl asked her to share her apartment with her. The other girl was actually way hotter than the girl with apartment. Personally, I will pick the hotter girl. I probably can get her cheaper too.
Stinky Squid
05-09-22, 13:58
I So I messaged like 50 or so with a special request. Now we'll see what comes in until the early afternoon when I will commit. I'd be more than willing to go back to Santana and try this address.Of my dozens of messages, more than half were not received until the nightfall. Of those that were received, more than half were not seen. Of those that were seen, about half were replied to. One was cordial, two were nice but boilerplate excuses that they aren't there today, but I should go and ask for a line up.
Since I had my session with the Isis, the oral surgeon 🤪, I was in the area at night, walked by, but didn't go in. The villa 119 is really pretty, and I'd say totally worth a visit. Don't get hung up on any one of the ads, just go and look. I felt zero unsafety in the area even at night. It's super close to the Metro. One of the girls told me there would be about 7 there that afternoon, and it was probably the worst date of the year to go looking for mongering. Oh, and as I walked that street I saw the redhead walk by she looked quite like in the ad, didn't see her tattoos to confirm, but I'm sure it was her and the checks out about same age of face to the ad. So this is all I can do to clear this place as worth going to. It's also cheap, 100 for the girl, 40 for the room. Take 2 girls for 240? I mean what could possibly go wrong with that? Again, it's a really nice looking place.
Of my dozens of messages, more than half were not received until the nightfall. Of those that were received, more than half were not seen. Of those that were seen, about half were replied to. One was cordial, two were nice but boilerplate excuses that they aren't there today, but I should go and ask for a line up.
Since I had my session with the Isis, the oral surgeon 🤪, I was in the area at night, walked by, but didn't go in. The villa 119 is really pretty, and I'd say totally worth a visit. Don't get hung up on any one of the ads, just go and look. I felt zero unsafety in the area even at night. It's super close to the Metro. One of the girls told me there would be about 7 there that afternoon, and it was probably the worst date of the year to go looking for mongering. Oh, and as I walked that street I saw the redhead walk by she looked quite like in the ad, didn't see her tattoos to confirm, but I'm sure it was her and the checks out about same age of face to the ad. So this is all I can do to clear this place as worth going to. It's also cheap, 100 for the girl, 40 for the room. Take 2 girls for 240? I mean what could possibly go wrong with that? Again, it's a really nice looking place.Great post, great Intel. Thanks.
I will be back in 2 weeks, it is now firmly on the list.
As of date, does Brazil and the US still require negative test when bording flights? Thanks.If vaccinated, no test for entry into Brazil.
USA still requires test ONE day before your departure flight. Note. It is one day and not 24 hours.
Leaving tonight, was just 1 night.
Saw main babe, just drinks and a lot of DFK.
Went on a bit of a pub crawl solo down Augusta, was fun.
Stopped at Casarão, met a monger named Goerge, good dude.
You all were right, it doesn't get hopping until past midnight.
Music still sucked though. Some decent talent, I bought a few beers for me, 1 for George and two drinks for the two girls I spoke to. Cost was 310 reis, so kinda pricey, but maybe the two drinks for the girls were really high, I didn't ask or see a receipt.
Didn't session, but got a phone number from one of the girls, very tall morena, very sexy, thin like I prefer. The other one was similar, had really sexy long legs, but didn't shave them. I kinda had to look hard to make sure she wasn't a trans as her legs were that hairy. Was there about an hour and a half.
Not sure if I will go back. I stopped at the others next door to it in the past, those really sucked. Casarão is very close, and in Baixa Augusta, which I like pub crawling on, so prob will drop in again.
Back in 2 weeks, going to finally try Scandello.
Had a lunch date will Cleo Schmidt, she faked.
Not sure what's up with her, she is super fine, sext and GFE, but very flakey, and has zero sense of time, always late. She also comes from an Evangelical household, doesn't believe in vaccination or that the world is round. I am going to jettison her, which makes me sad as I kinda am in love with her.
I have helped her financially, other than the sessioning, yet she can't get her sheet together, got evicted, was staying with her sister but she got tired if her, and she was in a friend's coach.
She is having terrible financial problems, so what does she do, goes out and buys a dog. She is whacko. Her profile on Photoacom has been marked as non available for awhile. If it come back on, she is hot, very nice body, good in bed, but prob best to keep it at that. We did have some fun nights together.
Later all.
RandomPilot
05-09-22, 23:04
Any place you guys recommend for a same day STD test? Also do the places here send results on the phone so you can save them?
Thanks!
If vaccinated, no test for entry into Brazil.
USA still requires test ONE day before your departure flight. Note. It is one day and not 24 hours.
Stinky Squid
05-10-22, 03:28
I wish I had had time to go to Santana tonight but I'm at Guarulhos to fly away. Last session with a girl who said she's in Guarulhos and then comes from Bela Vista. And while I enjoyed her shape, it was all different from what was explicitly agreed. The excuse was that I only talked with a coordinator. So another agency shit. Of 320 she says she only gets 100. It was rushed. It was stupid. I'm alright but still, once again you don't get what you pay for, you get what decent girl you have and if you talk with her not some yes-man. I was arguing all afternoon with another cutie who we had a chemistry over messaging and then fell out over her attempt to overcharge me. That one was real, but it was not to be.
I had the impression that those Santana 119 girls you actually talk with them. And at 140 its not bad.
Ha, I walked by a prostibulo in centro Guarulhos next to Guto's Churrasco place, where 15 min sessions are advertized for 30 reais. I wasn't in the mood at that time so I didn't check out the lineup. But when sex is bad, I can cherish the fact that it's cheap, kind of turns me on. Rsrsrs
So my question to you is: how many all around pleasant experience do you have for how many so-so bad ones?
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