Sao Paulo Reports [Archive] - Page 6

Eric Cartman

04-15-11, 11:38

For the record, the CORRECT address for Eu E Ela is

Rua Pires da Mota. 494.

Aclimacao.

SP,

011-3209-2756.

www.eueelas.com.br

It is NOT really findable in Google. And R. Pires da Mota 414 (address given below) is a PRIMARY SCHOOL down the block which, at 10pm, is COMPLETELY DEAD. So thankfully my buddy called his buddy in NYC who gave us the right address as we were standing there on the sidewalk.

Eu E Ela is in a modern building right at the intersection of Pires da Mota and Av. Aclimacao. It's not got very good signage but it has valet type dudes out in front.

Entrada is R$69 and gets jacked up to R$99 I believe during peak hours. However, TAKE NOTE, peak hours are basically 6pm. 9pm. We got there at 10. 30pm and the place was DEAD. Like 4 cheap Mexican working girls hanging around. Now, the facilities appear pretty nice and modern, but basically all the girls clear out by 10pm according to the server and the counter guy. So I had a R$69 bottle of water (e. G, my entrance fee, which was consumption) and left. I did receive a rarely-seen R$1 bill (not coin) as part of my change so I guess that's something.

At that point, without much hope left, we headed to Scandallo which was the closest place expected to suck the least. Scandallo at night looks like a cross between a fortress and a cruise ship. It's this big solid building the might be a hotel or a sports club, palm trees, lights, annoying valets. Very high airport-security to get in. Wand you down, let you through a door 1 at a time. Have to give I'd and get a card downstairs, then go 1 FLIGHT up in an elevator that they let 4 people on at a time. Another annoying doorman. It's all about access control and creating the illusion of exclusivity. That is, FUCKING ANNOYING.

Upstairs, there is a big cashier counter, a restaurant area, and a trendy big disco area with a bar down one side, a stage, and booths on the other. I would say slightly. Ever so slightly. Hotter girls than Bomboa, in a bigger area with louder noises. Ridiculous drink prices again. Turns out R$100 of your R$150 entrada can go to consumption, as far as I could tell. Then they somehow tag you with another R$50 "Entrada Festa" cost if you go over the R$100. I tried to get an explanation but it was too loud to understand well.

Lots of fake titties on display but still fatter chicks, older chicks, skanks. Nothing to really get excited about. And a TON of douchebag guys and older guys and Asian guys. Not judging, just reporting. I couldn't bring myself to ask a girl about pricing because I could just tell I'd get so angry when she quoted me R$600 or some dumbass thing. Not clear if they have rooms on site either.

Did see some older Asian guy pick a fight with a huge Black bouncer. Which he promptly lost as they dragged him out and started beating the crap out of him. LOL. Drinking makes people stupid.

Left sort of annoyed, more so by the R$40 cab to Eu e Ela and the R$42 cab back to my hotel. Sao Paulo is lame for getting around.

So tomorrow night (Friday) I have to choose between a haul to Connections (which I hear is lame on Fridays until late) or places on Rua Augusta. Suggestions?

-Cartman

Bubba Boy

04-15-11, 13:08

Get the metro down to the Rua Nestor Pestana clubs. Try out Mylove and then cross the road and check out Kilt. There are a few clubs all within 100 yards. Last time I was at Kilt you could drag the girl up stairs and do them in the little rooms that just had curtains for doors and sides from memory. You can of course take them off premises as well but they quote R$100 more. I love drinking at the Kilt bar as a the girls do shows literally on top of your drinks. They used to have swings and stuff that they would hang off as well. One of the best bangs I have ever had in Brazil was with a chic that almost sat on my beer! Stunning Morena!

Current prices from gdpguinet

Entrance- R$50.00 (inlcudes a drink or 2 from memory)

Bar Fine- R$50.00 (i drink for her to take her out)

Girl quote- R$250 to R$300

Bar Kilt. rua nestor pestana 266, Sao Paulo 01303010 10 minute from Metro Republica

http://www.kiltshows.com.br

Bubba Boy

04-15-11, 13:27

Kilt opens around 9pm, if you want to kill a couple of hours on the way. The Orion Teatro is just near Republica Metro. R$10 entrance. It is a nice enough Teatro that has live strip shows pretty much constantly during the day up until early evening. When the girls finish they then rotate to the seats asking if you want to take them up the rooms. It is a bit sleazy, but some of the woman are ok, nothing wrong with Sleazy women as long as they are Hot Sleazy Women!

The show in itself if worth seeing if just to watch the goings on of the local audience. The girls do a little strip and then when they arrive at the edge of the stage all the Brazilian guys get up, rush to the front of the stage and grope as much flesh as they can in the 30 seconds that the stripper stays there. She then retreats to the back of the stage and the guys take their seats again until she reappears at the front of the stage after a few minutes. Then they get up, rush to the front and grope away. Pavlov's dog experiment in action.

I always go here when in Sao Paulo as it is cheap and it kills a couple of hours. Never done a chic there but wanted to once. Was chatting to a hot little Morena after her show and was "definitely interested" into taking her to the room. Didn't do it because her bad breath could have killed a horse. At 10 paces. Just couldn't get around that.

http://www.teatroorion.com.br/ Rua Auroa 753

At night, like after 10pm this area gets really seedy real fast. Up near Kilt I find is safe, down here after Midnight, not recommended!

Ricker

04-15-11, 16:37

. So tomorrow night (Friday) I have to choose between a haul to Connections (which I hear is lame on Fridays until late) or places on Rua Augusta. Suggestions?

-CartmanWell, myself, I'd finally forget about the over-priced clip joints, and head down to Augusta.

I'd take the metro to Republica stop, save on the big taxi cost.

There's a churrascaria right off the Rebublica station, across the street from Paqrue Republica, next to Habibs.

Nothing fancy, but pretty good food and about 18R. Yep, I said 18R. You don't have to over-pay in SP either.

From there, hang a left out of the restaurant, about a block or so, hang another left on Sao Luis.

A block or 2 up Sao Luis you'll see little outdoor cafes, music playing, people dancing, outdoor stuff (on Fri and Sat).

Nice to girl watch / meet (non-pro) and have a cerveja maybe.

Ok. After 9pm, and better after 10-1030pm, continue up Sao Luis to the traffic light and yep, you'll run into Augusta.

Hang a right and you're on your way to some way less expensive clubs but with girls just as pretty and sometimes better than the over-priced tourist traps.

As Bubba posted earlier, you'll find on Rua Nestor Pestana (which is a few blocks up Augusta on your right) , a couple good boates.

My Love is one of 'them. It is hit and miss, however, costs ZERO to enter, and they'll let ya hang out for 10 minutes or so before buying anything. Check out the garotas. Can find some cuties there.

Ask for the waiter, Hugo. Great guy!

Again as Bubba posted, you can go across the street to the Kilt, see his post for particulars there.

Now, if you continue up Augusta a bit, you'll start running into boates.
I like 2 of them.

Maison is one. The doorman Garcia is a good guy, speaks english, espanol and portuguese.
7 or 10R to get into, your choice, for 1 or 2 drinks.
Also, some cuties can be found here at times. About 100R for 1 hour in-house, incl room or 50R to the club to take them out and you negotiate, easily 150-200R for all night.

Casaro is the other. Enter between 11 and midnite, can get crowded after that. 10R entrance, includes 2 drinks.
There are some really hot garotas here at times. I met one in particular recently, from Florianopolis, beautiful, natural, better than any high priced garota I've ever seen.
In house fun for between 120R to 180R including room, depending on negotiating skill.
Great place to make contacts for future encounters.
No rip offs by the club. Good people.

That's my recommendation. Nothing fancy, but good fun and one can easily find some nice girls ... or you can throw away money at higher priced clubs with garotas que tem bucetas de ouro :)

Genghis Khan

04-15-11, 18:18

Cartman,

I agree with Bubba Boy, from your posts Kilt seems like your kind of place.

GK

Genghis Khan

04-15-11, 19:52

Sperto

04-15-11, 20:06

Bubba Boy,

Thanks for exercising my humor muscle. I haven't lauged this hard in a long time. Teatro Orion is a must visit next time when in SP to watch that spectacle. I will remember to bring a nose clip.

GKWe're all waiting for some of your enjoyable reports, GK.

Oh! You'll take the high-end and
I'll take the low-end
And I'll be in Rua dos Andrades 69 afore ye.
But me and my GP.
Will never meet again.
On the bonnie, bonnie banks of São Paulo. :D

Bubba Boy

04-15-11, 23:25

T501 in Centro Rio has a similar setup when the girls dance on their tiny stages. Some girls let the guys grope away and the guys just go nuts. They virtually stick their heads in the ass crack of the chic and have a good look around. The guys do it with such concentration it is just a hilarious. I have spoken to some of the girls about it, suprisingly some girls actually dig getting groped so go figure! Only in Brazil!

Gk, I went to Zuka the other night. Was OK, not unforgetable, had better meals at many other so called lesser places.

Bubba Boy

04-15-11, 23:34

Slightly off topic but none the less about Brazil. Sometimes or a lot of the time, even the smallest thing in Brazil is just made to be so much more difficult than it needs to be. I just came from the Pharmacy to buy some Ibuprofeno. The conversation went like the following and believe me this is the shortened version:

Counter guy: "what concentration of Ibuprofeno do you want".

Me: "whatever you have, it doesn't make much difference to me".

Counter guy: "well 200mg is for." and he goes on and on,"then 300mg is for." he goes on and on,"then of course 400mg is for."

Me: ""I guess I will have 300mg"

Counter guy: "sorry, we only have 400mg, will that do?"

I just look at him wanting to say are you fu*ing kidding me!

Black Ceo

04-16-11, 07:30

Sixtynine

04-16-11, 20:11

The price tipically includes the full service the girl provides and massage, typically 2 nuts and a rubdown or so for nearly all of these clinica / massage places. No tip is usually given, but a small token will get you remembered if you are a regular, But if you visit infrequently don't bother, pay at the door for service rendered. Allure is really busy though, so if you have someone in mind you may want to call ahead.I like the sound of that, included! I had experiences in other countries where "tudo" meant we negotiate again in the room which only leads to more misunderstandings. Nothing reduces an erection faster than a girl denying an additional service or wanting more $ before getting started.

Eric Cartman

04-17-11, 22:55

So for my last night in SP, I read up on options and looked over the suggestions here and in PM (thanks guys!).

My one-hour nap turned into a 2hr nap. I got up around 8. 45pm, showered, threw on jeans and a polo shirt, and headed out from the Radisson (Itam Bibi). R$300 per night? I think US$190, nice place, free full breakfast. To Rua Augusta. Cab took about 20 mins. 30 mins probably, another R$30+ down the tubes. Got dropped off near Casario / Casaro (findable on Google). Definitely seedier on this side of Av. Paulista. The farther down the hill, the seedier. Grabbed a salgado and headed to Casaro. Got there around 10. 30. Woman says "Come back at 11pm, we open then." I ask when they close and she says 7am. Yowza! I knew SP was a "late" down but that's hardcore!

Walked down the hill towards Kilt. Long walk. Tried to find Maison on the way but didn't remember the street number. Definitely seedier down around Kilt. The hotel I stayed at in 2005. Grand Hotel Ca D'Oro. Is like right down there somewhere but I didn't see it (maybe it's gone?). The restaurant Planeta that I ate at with a Brazilian porn star on that trip is still there. I think that was the 20 mins we left the room LOL.

Anyway, rock up towards Kilt and see My Love across the street. Figure, hey why not. Turns out entrada is R$10-15 or something or so at least on Friday but it counts to a drink. Grab a water and sit. Decent lighting inside, reasonably nice place. They have a row of like 6 little booth / cabines (with curtains) in the back that apparently you can rent (R$75?) and bang in LOL. Pretty dead inside at 10. 30 or so. 5 girls. Brushed off one and just sort of hung out. Around 11pm a bigger blond chick with a HUGE Asian dragon tattooed on her back comes to talk to me. I'm like, OK, I'll chat. About 10 mins in, she asks for a drink Turns out she wants a Smirnoff Ice which runs R$35. Ack. I'm like, fine. We talk for another 20 mins and she's pretty cool and reasonably OK looking. Naty (natch-ee) is her name. We start negotiating and she gives me the run down. Can suck deep, hates anal, wants R$250 for an hour. I'm like, what about all night. 2 times at night and once in the AM. She's like R$500. I'm like, haha no. So she drops it to R$400. I push her on her BJ skills and she says "You don't want me to suck you without a condom, right?" I'm like. Huh? Of course I do. Lecture her about how every girl I know in Rio and the 2 I had last 2 nights in SP all do this. She relents. I tell her I have to go check out Kilt but might come back. Total cost is R$50 between my entrance, her drink and a $5 commission (to her) they tack on to her drink.

Kilt is across the street. Get there around 11. 30pm. R$50 entrada includes 1 drink. Very busy. TONS of Asian guys (Japanese?). Like 80% of the dudes. Girls are a mixed bag. There are 1-2 cuties (8s) but rest seem just the same as My Love and frankly Rio T's these days. End up talking to 2 girls who are trying to convince me to take both of them back to my hotel. Pricing is quoted again around the R$300 / hr with higher overnights. While this is going on, I turn around and there is a live sex show going on the Kilt stage. Some white fatty chick is getting ploughed by a hairless muscle guy in work boots. Urg. Didn't love seeing that. Hang out for about 30 mins total waiting for better talent, but it doesn't appear.

Head back across to My Love. Get nailed for another entrada. Also have to wait for the Viagra to kick in, so find Naty, tell her to get dressed, and we hang out there for 20-30 mins. She has another Smirnoff Ice. There are probably 20 girls here now and some are pretty cute. Cost to head out is R$70 made up of R$50 for her exit fee, her drink and my entrada. Not quite sure how that all added up but it did.

Long fucking cab ride back to the hotel, length of R. Augusta. Packed with seedier looking folks now at 12-12. 30 and horrible slow traffic. Back at the hotel, she has a cigarette on the deck, asks for the minibar (I demur) , showers up and the fun begins. She was pretty pretty good. Best part was during my second O that night, she's blowing me and she says "Cum in my mouth." I'm like, wait weren't you the chick who wanted to blow me with a condom LMAO. But you don't have to ask me twice. Woke her up at 8am by poking her in the back and she got to business again like a good sport. Handed her R$400 after she got dressed,"like we agreed." She says, o, I need cab money too. I'm like, hey you didn't say anything about that. She pouts. I agree SP sucks for getting around and give her R$20. Pissed me off though. I never give cab fare to Rio chicks except Carlas models or if it's agreed up front. Weak.

Oh yeah. On the way out of My Love, the bouncer outside asks me for a tip. I'm like "What for? For opening the door?" He says something."I'm like, for talking to me? I talk to people all day and nobody gives me a tip!" Fucker. I didn't even take a cab from out front, we walked around the corner. He can kiss my fat white ass.

Total cost of My Love: R$50 + R$70 +$400 + R$20, plus the 2 cab rides (R$30 each way). I think that's R$540 plus R$60, or R$600. Last night at MC, back in Rio, I spent R$470 I think for 1 hour in a cabine and some drinks. It was a night without my free entrada, though. And I hung out in the boate for like 2.5 hours just chilling and watching chicks in bikinis shake their booties. And honestly, I enjoyed the MC experience better. I think Cartman likes to chillax in a robe in a terma, hassle free. Plus the investment is time to get the T chicks (T-girls has wrong connotations lols) to come over to my apt. For R$200.

-Cartman

Genghis Khan

04-17-11, 23:55

Thanks for some nice reports Cartman. You confirm the impression I have received from others recently. The SP club scene sucks at the moment.

GK

Hobbying

04-18-11, 06:36

Thanks for some nice reports Cartman. You confirm the impression I have received from others recently. The SP club scene sucks at the moment.

GKI agree esp with the current exchange rate. With the influx of business into Brasil and SP especially the good looking garotas don't care about service they will get another guy the next day and the next. And the club can't do anything about it. Best to stick with clinicas or reviewed girls on gpguia who depend on repeat customers.

I recently discovered how big London scene is which is cheaper than Brazil now believe it or not. No boites as it is not legal but plenty of other stuff with Brazilian girls. They are all here to go to school to learn english and make money and so they depend on repeats. No need to speak porto with them as they can speak english. For 200GBP=500R you can find a super hot girl for that will do anal and cim swallow and multiple pops which I never found once in all my years mongering in Brazil. So now I much prefer coming to London to find a garota than in Brazil LOL.

Genghis Khan

04-18-11, 20:25

Hobbying,

It doesn't sound like you had much luck in Brazil. What you have found in London is available all over the country.

The best country in Europe to find great Brasileiras would be Spain.

London sucks more than SP!

GK

Bubba Boy

04-19-11, 00:55

Eric Cartman

04-19-11, 02:13

Genghis Khan

04-19-11, 07:30

Tiradentes

04-20-11, 03:56

Big Bug

04-20-11, 05:02

Hi all,

I'll be in Sao paolo, in the short term and would like a good hotel, where I could receive a visitor and not have to go down to reception to get her into the elevator. Any names?

Cheers

Genghis Khan

04-20-11, 08:40

Tiradentes,

"Best bang for the buck"? I really don't like that expression because it implies that it is only the bang itself which is of value and that the woman providing this service is of no value at all. In that case there are women who will bang you for a bowl of rice in the most desperate corners of the world and Brazil has never been the best bang for the buck.

I like to beleive that some kind of attraction to the woman, either physical or psycological, needs to be present for a bang to be of any value at all and that value is a measure of the attraction + her sexual skills. At least this is the case for me and if it is not for you guys I don't understand how your mind works.

Since what attracts us to a woman is highly individual, the real "best bang for the buck" will also be highly individual. So the expression "best bang for the buck" used in a general term gives no meaning to me. To me Brazil will always be paradise and where I find the best experiences. That is because I love the looks, the culture, the passion, the temperament and sexuality og the Brazilian women. They are without pier. To me. If the chance to experiance that will cost me a little more. So be it.

What worries me is that many of the Brazilian gems have started to travel to Europe during the Brazilian offseason and have that wonderful attitude destroyed by being part of the more hardcore European scene. Secondly it seems that the officials in SP have decided that in this specific city they have to remove the market.

GK

Beach Star

04-20-11, 14:58

you can find a super hot girl for that will do anal and cim swallow and multiple pops which I never found once in all my years mongering in Brazil. So now I much prefer coming to London to find a garota than in Brazil LOL.Dude! Most guys who go to Brazil get these things in the first week they are there!

Ricker

04-20-11, 15:56

So for my last night in SP, I read up on options and looked over the suggestions here and in PM (thanks guys!).

Walked down the hill towards Kilt. Long walk. Tried to find Maison on the way but didn't remember the street number. Definitely seedier down around Kilt. The hotel I stayed at in 2005. Grand Hotel Ca D'Oro. Is like right down there somewhere but I didn't see it (maybe it's gone?). The restaurant Planeta that I ate at with a Brazilian porn star on that trip is still there. I think that was the 20 mins we left the room LOL.

Anyway, rock up towards Kilt and see My Love across the street. Figure, hey why not. Turns out entrada is R$10-15 or something or so at least on Friday but it counts to a drink. Grab a water and sit. Decent lighting inside, reasonably nice place. They have a row of like 6 little booth / cabines (with curtains) in the back that apparently you can rent (R$75?) and bang in LOL. Pretty dead inside at 10. 30 or so. 5 girls. Brushed off one and just sort of hung out. Around 11pm a bigger blond chick with a HUGE Asian dragon tattooed on her back comes to talk to me. I'm like, OK, I'll chat. About 10 mins in, she asks for a drink Turns out she wants a Smirnoff Ice which runs R$35. Ack. I'm like, fine. We talk for another 20 mins and she's pretty cool and reasonably OK looking. Naty (natch-ee) is her name. We start negotiating and she gives me the run down. Can suck deep, hates anal, wants R$250 for an hour. I'm like, what about all night. 2 times at night and once in the AM. She's like R$500. I'm like, haha no. So she drops it to R$400. I push her on her BJ skills and she says "You don't want me to suck you without a condom, right?" I'm like. Huh? Of course I do. Lecture her about how every girl I know in Rio and the 2 I had last 2 nights in SP all do this. She relents. I tell her I have to go check out Kilt but might come back. Total cost is R$50 between my entrance, her drink and a $5 commission (to her) they tack on to her drink.

Head back across to My Love. Get nailed for another entrada. Also have to wait for the Viagra to kick in, so find Naty, tell her to get dressed, and we hang out there for 20-30 mins. She has another Smirnoff Ice. There are probably 20 girls here now and some are pretty cute. Cost to head out is R$70 made up of R$50 for her exit fee, her drink and my entrada. Not quite sure how that all added up but it did.

Long fucking cab ride back to the hotel, length of R. Augusta. Packed with seedier looking folks now at 12-12. 30 and horrible slow traffic. Back at the hotel, she has a cigarette on the deck, asks for the minibar (I demur) , showers up and the fun begins. She was pretty pretty good. Best part was during my second O that night, she's blowing me and she says "Cum in my mouth." I'm like, wait weren't you the chick who wanted to blow me with a condom LMAO. But you don't have to ask me twice. Woke her up at 8am by poking her in the back and she got to business again like a good sport. Handed her R$400 after she got dressed,"like we agreed." She says, o, I need cab money too. I'm like, hey you didn't say anything about that. She pouts. I agree SP sucks for getting around and give her R$20. Pissed me off though. I never give cab fare to Rio chicks except Carlas models or if it's agreed up front. Weak.

Total cost of My Love: R$50 + R$70 +$400 + R$20, plus the 2 cab rides (R$30 each way). I think that's R$540 plus R$60, or R$600. Last night at MC, back in Rio, I spent R$470 I think for 1 hour in a cabine and some drinks. It was a night without my free entrada, though. And I hung out in the boate for like 2. 5 hours just chilling and watching chicks in bikinis shake their booties. And honestly, I enjoyed the MC experience better. I think Cartman likes to chillax in a robe in a terma, hassle free. Plus the investment is time to get the T chicks (T-girls has wrong connotations lols) to come over to my apt. For R$200.

-CartmanEnjoyed your report.

Interesting that you paid twice in one night an entrada at My Love. I have never paid an entrada at My Love, and I have been there many times.

Also, I have never paid more than 200R for an all-nighter with a garota from My Love or any of the othe boates for that matter.

Too bad you didn't get a second look at Casarao after say 1130PM.

Tommy America

04-20-11, 18:18

Gfe Finder

04-20-11, 19:15

Come on guys! Do you really think the options are better in Europe than in Sao Paulo if you are looking for Brazilian girls?

I just returned from a few days in Barcelona which is also flowing over with Brasileiras traveling to Europe during the Brazilian winter / European summer to make money. However I do not think it is possible to compare the quality of the Brasileiras in the city to a city in Brazil.

GKWell, the high end places in Europe (e.g. FKKs, Madrid's Flowers Park) are cheaper than São Paulo's high end places (Cafe Photo, Bomboa.) Beyond that, São Paulo has the cost advantage.

What about the service advantage? Elements of GFE like BBBJ and DFK are standard in the FKKs,"ask and ye shall receive" in Spain's clubs (i.e. I've never been refused), and they seem to require tough negotiations in São Paulo at least where I've been.

Of course, São Paulo has the advantage in selection of Brasileiras, at least until word gets out among them about how much they can make in Europe. :D

Genghis Khan

04-20-11, 19:43

Of course, SP has the advantage in selection of Brasileiras, at least until word gets out among them about how much they can make in Europe. :DWell, the question was if there are better options in Europe than in SP if you are looking for a Brazilian girl. In any Brazilian city you will bascily find only Brazilian garotas working in the clubs and by that there are so many more options than in whatever European city you might choose that there is no competition.

Concerning your comment about GFE inside FKK, I would like to add my opinion that to go to an institution and bring a woman to a room for 1 hour to bang her never will be a GFE whatever services she might provide. A GFE in my book requires something which seem more naturally like a time spent with a gf.

GK

Gfe Finder

04-20-11, 20:04

Well, the question was if there are better options in Europe than in SP if you are looking for a Brazilian girl. In any Brazilian city you will bascily find only Brazilian garotas working in the clubs and by that there are so many more options than in whatever European city you might choose that there is no competition.

Easy, GK. I was agreeing with you there. :) I'm just trying to provide some objectivity to the discussion. "Better" is a vague term. "Better selection," "better service levels," "better price" are all more specific and lend themselves more easily to discussion & comparison.

Concerning your comment about GFE inside FKK, I would like to add my opinion that to go to an institution and bring a woman to a room for 1 hour to bang her never will be a GFE whatever services she might provide. A GFE in my book requires something which seem more naturally like a time spent with a gf.

GK

Here I must respectfully disagree, though. Since, beyond a few acronyms, the definition of GFE varies highly from monger to monger (even between you and me apparently) I'm not sure it's productive to publicly continue discussion on this topic.

Genghis Khan

04-20-11, 21:56

Does anyone here know if the Brazilian porn star Julia Paes is available anymore?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX3iBHmUf7c&feature=related

BTW, she was my number 2 choice from this night at WE back in 2007. The morena with a green top an the angelic face:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3008-2007-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=593190&viewfull=1#post593190

After this I have also arranged a session with her from one of the high end madames, but on that occation some language problems lead to her leaving my hotel room just after she had arrived because she misunderstood me somehow.

GK

Sperto

04-21-11, 05:21

Does anyone here know if the Brazilian porn star Julia Paes is available anymore? ...It's amusing with the resemblance between the porno star Júlia Paes and the actress Juliana Paes.

Genghis Khan

04-21-11, 10:11

Her real name is Michelle Alves. She probbably took the artist name Julia Paes because of her resemblance to Juliana.

The second time I met her was very strange. I had set up an appoinment for her to arrive at my hotel around 14:00. It was arranged through a middleman, so I could not call her. When the time passed 18:30, I gave up on her and went down to the hotel restaurant for dinner. When the food arrived at my table, the receptionist showed Julia to my table. Julia asked for the menu and ordered without asking me after introductions. I managed to suppress my anger for her lateness and we had a nice time during dinner. After the meal we took the elevator back to my room. Inside the room I asked her if she wanted something to drink. She wanted some of the whisky and red bull I had. I asked her if she remembered that we had talked before at WE and she answered that she didn't and that she had been to WE only once on a special night where Washington had invited several models and actresses to fill the house with "famosas". I was curious why she was so late, so I asked her and also asked her if I could have her phone number. She didn't understand this. I then asked her which high end madame my midleman had arranged her from. She did not understand this question either. Then she asked me something I understood as a permission to smoke. I answered yes. Then she grabbed her bag and her jacket and left the room. At first I thought she wanted to go outside to smoke, but she didn't return. I went down to the reception and the receptionist told me she had just walked out, jumped into a taxi and taken off. In my room her whisky and red bull was still untouched.

I never figured out what happened on that occation.

GK

Bambino

04-21-11, 22:33

I never thought I would hear the day that London was a better place to hobby than Brazil! I know London very well and when you do the sums I guess there isn't that much difference if you are comparing mid to high level Sampa club versus an Escort or Private in London.

It is not that the prices in Brazil in the local currency are so high, it is just that the exchange is very overvalued compared to just about every other country. If I lived back in Europe back I probably would not go to Brazil. There are excellent places in Europe at about the same price or even cheaper than Brazil. Add in the cost of travel and it is getting very hard to justify a trip to Brazil. Bubba, I just cancelled a trip to Rio for may. I saw the Real is now 1. 5:1! Yikes!

I've been a Brazil holdout while my buddies fled to Colombia, but I had become fluent in portugese, and love the culture, and even have a couple friends there.

But, there's no more Help, Balcony is no replacement, and other than the Termas, I didn't find I had much access to the girls last fall.

I'm in SanFrancisco, and with Toronto within 4 hrs, I can no longer justify the trip to Brazil.

There are countless agencies and freelancers in Toronto, it is now LEGAL, easy to hook up awesome bud, and yoga studios and pools are all around.

I suspect after all the World Cup / Olympics stuff is over, and markets have had a chance to "correct" it may, once again, be a practical trip.

And I don't HAVE to go business class to Canada.

Maybe London / Berlin for the Fall. Or maybe Barcelona.

Full Throttle

04-22-11, 20:52

Just a little. Reviewed the last few weeks of reports and made some additions in advance of my arrival.

The prices are just comical. It's hard to believe that this is the same town where, in 2004, on my first day in town, I had a great churascaria lunch for around $3. 50 including a beer, and took 2 girls from Cocktails and 1 from the big neon "LOVE" place on Augusta. Total price for 2 events and 3 girls was under $100.

Though places like Clinica Kin, once $26 now $95 (Up 60R from before plus exchange rate) , are still worth visiting.

Here is the link. Remember, you can edit it and add stuff you know about!

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=208228692507675671514.000451c408cf19c176e11&ll=-23.538593-46. 638765&spn=0. 008557, 0.021136&z=16.

I will have all of my maps from around the world on a single web page shortly.

FT

Eric Cartman

04-23-11, 03:55

Enjoyed your report.

Interesting that you paid twice in one night an entrada at My Love. I have never paid an entrada at My Love, and I have been there many times.

Also, I have never paid more than 200R for an all-nighter with a garota from My Love or any of the othe boates for that matter.

Too bad you didn't get a second look at Casarao after say 1130PM. I'm open to some details on how you manage that Ricker. Definitely want to learn. Do they start off quoting you at R$500 or do they start lower? She started at R$250 for an hour, then proposed R$500 for TLN and dropped it to R$400. I didn't bother to negotiate further.

Any guidance or tips on what time you are investing and what to do to get those prices would be helpful. Thanks!

Re: entrada. They told me that's what it was when I entered. Did I get snookered? Was a Friday night.

Re: Casarao. Yeh. 11. 30 is starting to get late for me during the work week and when I have a plane to catch on Sat at noon. Just a reality of my life and getting older.

Hobbying

04-23-11, 19:10

Dude! Most guys who go to Brazil get these things in the first week they are there!I've seen at least 50 garotas and non of them swallows. Anal and cim is norms there but not swallow is not in my experiences there.

Hobbying

04-23-11, 19:18

I will be back in Sao Paulo in a few weeks and was wondering if anyone here had visited Scandallo Lounge? I looked at their web-site: seems a bit out of the way, but it looked interesting based on the site. Also, while Bon Vivant had closed last November, a few friends I knew from that club told me it would be reopening in early 2011. Does anyone know if this is accurate?

Thanks all. Appreciate any feedback and advice!I've been there a few times and its hit and miss if you want to get a solid 9 GFE. Most of the hot ones wouldn't do bbj. Pricing is 150R to enter includes drinks and food which is really good. 200R to take out or 100R for room there. Girls are 250-300 but depends on the time of day. 25R by taxi from Paulista.

Genghis Khan

04-24-11, 22:59

Hello, Tommy America,

Scandallo Lounge is the same location as Cafe Millenium used to be. I have been there but it was almost one and a half year ago. Very nice place but I can't comment on the current garota situation.

Bon Vivant now apparently is a gay club.

GK

Albert Punter

04-25-11, 16:05

Yes, it is not common but it is provided. Many girls actually enjoy it.

As very often occurs, it may depend also on level of chemistry.

I've seen at least 50 garotas and non of them swallows. Anal and cim is norms there but not swallow is not in my experiences there.

Albert Punter

04-25-11, 16:11

Excellent job.

Thanks for time spent in updating.

I will try to contribute too.

Just a little. Reviewed the last few weeks of reports and made some additions in advance of my arrival.

The prices are just comical. It's hard to believe that this is the same town where, in 2004, on my first day in town, I had a great churascaria lunch for around $3. 50 including a beer, and took 2 girls from Cocktails and 1 from the big neon "LOVE" place on Augusta. Total price for 2 events and 3 girls was under $100.

Though places like Clinica Kin, once $26 now $95 (Up 60R from before plus exchange rate) , are still worth visiting.

Here is the link. Remember, you can edit it and add stuff you know about!

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=208228692507675671514.000451c408cf19c176e11&ll=-23.538593

-46. 638765&spn=0. 008557, 0.021136&z=16.

I will have all of my maps from around the world on a single web page shortly.

FT

Midorio

04-26-11, 11:18

Guys,

Any advices for sao paulo, I am here for 24 hour only and don't know where to go and get some hot chicks, please advice for good and affordable prices, either via website or clubs I stay in Gran corona hotel,

Where to go clubing in safe area?

We are 2 guys so please need urgent help.

Eric Cartman

04-27-11, 01:55

Ricker

04-27-11, 05:14

I'm open to some details on how you manage that Ricker. Definitely want to learn. Do they start off quoting you at R$500 or do they start lower? She started at R$250 for an hour, then proposed R$500 for TLN and dropped it to R$400. I didn't bother to negotiate further.

Any guidance or tips on what time you are investing and what to do to get those prices would be helpful. Thanks!

Re: entrada. They told me that's what it was when I entered. Did I get snookered? Was a Friday night.

Re: Casarao. Yeh. 11. 30 is starting to get late for me during the work week and when I have a plane to catch on Sat at noon. Just a reality of my life and getting older. I'll get another report out soon. I've been running around SP for the past few days.

I did stop by My Love, once again they said no entry fee, it was Friday night.

Just by chance and good luck, I met a beautiful moreninha NP that works making 'sucos' (juice) on Augusta, she's been keepin me busy these days.

Sui Generis

04-27-11, 14:02

Hey,

Am I the only one to have problems with the a very well known national forum (the GP G. A)?

Actually I'm unable to have access to the forum. They said it's a maintenance job. It's too bad....

I have a spare tire in my trunk: I still have access to another tupiniquim forum.

Bobo5

04-27-11, 21:55

Hey,

Am I the only one to have problems with the a very well known national forum (the GP G. A)?

Actually I'm unable to have access to the forum. They said it's a maintenance job. It's too bad.

I have a spare tire in my trunk: I still have access to another tupiniquim forum. Same problem but it says " FORBIDDEN".

Which other forum are you talking about?

BB5

Sui Generis

04-28-11, 02:38

Same problem but it says " FORBIDDEN".

Which other forum are you talking about?

BB5Bobo5,

I don't know if I have the right to name another forum on this site.

If it's forbidden then the moderation will erase it.

The other forum is: Fórum Sexo Dicas.

Torgoch

04-28-11, 16:50

Hey,

Am I the only one to have problems with the a very well known national forum (the GP G. A)?

Actually I'm unable to have access to the forum. They said it's a maintenance job. It's too bad.

I have a spare tire in my trunk: I still have access to another tupiniquim forum. It is back up and running now.

Sui Generis

04-29-11, 17:11

It is back up and running now.I know before leaving my country, it was working (Tuesday evening).

I'm in Sampa since Wednesday. I didn't go out because I was waiting for my luggages. They were stucked in Miami.

The action begins tonight three or four friends from the GP Guia will join me and we will go somewhere to celebrate with garotas.

Torgoch

04-29-11, 19:02

I know before leaving my country, it was working (Tuesday evening).

I'm in Sampa since Wednesday. I didn't go out because I was waiting for my luggages. They were stucked in Miami.

The action begins tonight three or four friends from the GP Guia will join me and we will go somewhere to celebrate with garotas. Well have some fun sui generis!

Raquel Fagundes

04-30-11, 05:15

Hola, soy Raquel Fagundes, chica de compañía en Sao Paulo, Brasil. Mi andúmero de teléfono es (11) 8310-9985. Soy rubia, hermosa why muy amigable. Soy un estudiante, muy inteligente why caliente en la cama.

http://www.bellasmais.com.br/

Olá, sou a Raquel Fagundes, escort girl, them São Paulo Brazil. Meu telefone é (11) 8310-9985. Sou loira, linda e muito simpática. Sou estudante, muito inteligente e quente na cama.

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Supafly11

04-30-11, 06:27

Hi guys,

I arrived in town in early April on Sunday morning hoping to have some fun before starting the busy work week. Many forum members posted it here that Sunday is pretty dead in SP. Boy, they are right. This place is worse than dead. I mean really dead. I stayed in Itaim Bibi area and tried calling every English speaking garota mentioned in a post by SG on 9/18/10. Since, I was my first trip with no Portuguese, I didn't want to venture out on my own. Finally, I gave up and called.

http://www.escortgirlbrazil.com/acompanhantes-loiras.htm

And asked for Laisa to show up at my hotel. Lady on the phone said that she would find out availability and confirm in 5 mins. I get a call and everything was confirmed. 2 hrs later, a hot looking blond girl (7-8) show up at my hotel but she is no where close to the picture posted on the website. Since I was so horny and she looked hot, I decided to go forward with the deal. She asked for R$300 for an hour. It was pretty amazing that she didn't speak any English and I didn't speak any Portuguese but we were able to communicate somehow. First round was amazing then we cuddled and talked using a translator app on my BB. After a little rest, I was ready to go again. She simply asked. Sex. I said yes. We tried different positions and again great job with the session. We cuddled again and I was ready for bed to get ready for Monday so she left.

Wednesday night, I went to café photo. Talent was great. Walked around and checked out the talent. After couple of drinks, I talked to a very pretty girl (8-9) name Mariana from southern part of the country. She spoke English very well. Her asking price was R$600. I asked her. How long would she stay. Her answer was as long as I wanted. I negotiated the price down to R$500. We took off to my hotel after finishing our drinks. Things just got better as our clothes came off. She had an amazing body and tan. We had amazing round one. We relaxed a bit then she started to get ready to leave. I am like. WTF. What about round two. Her answer was she has to go. I really got ticked off and wanted her out of there. Overall, it was a great trip to SP and looking forward to my next trip.

Sui Generis

04-30-11, 16:23

My firsts days here were kind of rough. Fortunately everything is better right now.

1) First of all, I had problems with my luggages. When I arrived at Guarulhos, after clearing the customs, I went to to luggage reception zone and I waited in vain in front of the luggage caroussel; mine never showed up! I went directly to the bagage claims department but apparently I was not the only one with that problem because I was at the end of the line. When it was my turn I learned that my luggages were left behind at Miami and that I could have them the day after. What a drag! My first day in São Paulo and I will have to spend the day with the same clothes. Even if it's fall right here, there was a bright sun and the temperature was hovering around 27 celsius. I had a black merino wool sweater and a cashmer and silk Ermenegildo Zegna navy blue blazer on me. Not the perfect clothes for a hot day!

I took a Guarucops in order to reach my coveted abode and I was feeling a lot merrier. When we arrived near the Dutra Expressway the taxi driver told me that it was block. Sunday Indy 300 will be held in São Paulo and they were doings some preparation on the road and it was the cause of the delay. It is São Paulo. A nightmare when it comes to circulation. Yesterday, while I was dining out with one of my friend, he told me that on Easter the time to go to Santos was 8 hours (a 45 minutes ride habitually).

In order to gain time (and to stay away from the exhaust fumes emanating from the cars and trucks) he proposed me to take another path that was going thru Zona Norte. As I'm not really familiar with that zone I was pleased to discover this area of the city. Imust tell you here that with Guarucop it's a fixed price (depending on which part of the town you are going) , in other words it doesn't depend on the time you spend oin the taxi or on the mileage. My taxi driver. A Portuguese immigrant living in Brazil for the last 50 years. Showed me the main attractions of Zona Norte. It was his barrio and he told me that Vila-Maria (where he lives) and Vila-Guilherme are amongst the most populated bairros of São Paulo (and with a lot of Portuguese immigrants). As it was on our way, he showed me the Tucuruvi metro station and the other ones we passed by such as Parada Inglesa, Jardim São Paulo, Santana, Carandiru, etc.

In carandiru he showed me the vacant land where was located the legendary Carandiru detention center. The jail was torn down in 2002. Nearby he showed me feminine detention center which is still active.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlTPEmjyyvI

As we crossed the Tietê river I was on familiar ground while we were approaching Tiradentes and Luz. He took Avenida 23 de Maio and there was also another traffic jam. An accident just occured because we had the set the road free for an ambulance and the cops: a motoboy was hit by a car. The poor motoboy was on the road and I saw blood everywhere around him. I don't know if he was dead. Not the best way to start a long stay in Brazil. Luggage delay, the face of death, etc.

2) Before leaving for Brazil I had a diffuse pain in my intestines. I went directly to my doctor's office and he said to me that it was probably the beginning of a diverticulitis. He gave me some medication. The problem with that medication is that I cannot take alcool. Is it the best best to have fun in the paradise of cachaça? Nope.

3) I had to wait my luggages before visiting a putaria in São Paulo. Yesterday, Friday night, I met a colleague from a well known national forum. He asked me a favour (to buy for him a pair of Italian cycle tires. Vittoria Corsa Evo CX. Because they are too expensive in Brazil. I had them in Montreal for the half price he would have paid here). I was invited to a restaurant because he wanted to thank me. Two others posters were supposed to come but they had to change their plans. We spent a while in the restauran talking of the scene in São Paulo and of the other posters we knew. I was very sad when he said to me that he heard that a legendary figure of the GP Guia was dead. I was affected because he was a close friend of mine. I knew he was ill.

As my friend lives outside São Paulo (in Ibiúna) he was not in the mood to visit a putaria. It was kind of late (around 21h00) but he offerd to drop me at the machadão (that's the way we designate the Privê Redway here) if I wish. I was very pleased to go there and I was expecting to meet other people I know.

When I arrived I was greetd by the manager Vania. As usual she's a darling. She was sitting in the front waiting room and was in a conversation with Roman Barak, another legendary figure. We spoke for a while and he said that he was looking for me because I knew I was coming to Brazil. He gave me fresh news from the other legendary figure with other friend was talking about and fortunately he' snot dead. (I was relieved).

As it was kind of late (the Redway closes at 22h00) there were only 5 garotas avalaible.

1) Flavia : a 5'4' mulata clara with a sublime body.

2) Angela: a 5'6' mulata clara with a stunning body. I already knew her as I went out with that garota in 2009. She was even more beautiful yesterday than two years ago. (Another poster from this site wrote extensively about her because he kind of « felt » in love with her. Me I, m more pragmatic: puta é puta!).

3) Bebe / Rafaela: a red hair garota with several tatooes and a slutty face.

4) A tall morena with shoulder lenght black hair and aperfect body. She's the next on my list. Unfortunately I don't remember her name.

5) An old garota (a coroa as we say right here) with blonde hair, Not ugly, not beautiful. She was looking very sleazy however.

I picked up Flavia. As we where waiting for a room (that's the main problem with that putaria. We always have to wait for a room. There are only four rooms available in that joint) whe chatted on the couch. A cute garota, maybe in her mid 20. She said that she's the mother of a 6 years old girl. Her teeth were clean but there were braces on the inferior teeths. She was very affectionate on the coach and her conversation was entertaining.

Finally a room was available. She put clean sheets while I was in the shower (in the room). For those who knows the redway it's the first room, on the first floor, besides the stairs. It, s a new room, because it was not there in 2009.

Whe she undressed in front of me I realized how beautiful she was. She has a corpo violão (guitar shaped body) ; beautiful big boobs (faked) , small waist and large hips with a beautiful bunda.

Example of a corpo violão: http://www.bolsademulher.com/corpo/c...ao-100131.html

I was tired and slightly from my former mishaps (luggages, motoboy accident, bad news concerning a close friend, diverticulitis) I asked her to care of me. She offered me a massage and I said yes right away. It was very good. She then gave me covered blowjob! I didn't say a word but I was a little bit dissapointed (habitually they give BBBJ at the machadão). After that I was not in the mood to do anything else and she was not able to give me the desire to do something else neither. She finished me in that way and I came in the condom.

Final evaluation of the session: I will not repeat. The garota is nice, very good looking but I had no tesão (sexual desire) for her or she was not able to lit the sparks. Maybe she was too cute as I prefer garota that are safada and with a vicious look. (Final note: this morning I read the GP Guia on the Privê Redway and some garotas ask a supplement for BBBJ. If it's the truth I'll go somewhere else).

Bollero66

04-30-11, 23:45

So tomorrow night (Friday) I have to choose between a haul to Connections (which I hear is lame on Fridays until late) or places on Rua Augusta. Suggestions?

-CartmanI went to CONNECTION couple of weeks ago on a Friday night and was impressed:

The club appeared very modern and well maintained. We arrived at about 10pm. Don't forget your I'd in this part of the world. Otherwise it requires some nice arguments (words, no money) of your friends to gain intrance. You get a card with number were all drinks get charged to and you pay before you leave.

After entering my Sao Paulo friends explained me that the club was not crowded. OK, I had to calibrate my observations: The club was filled with 50+ ladies and about 25 men. How would it be when it is crowded? (When we left three hours later the number of people has probably doubled. I would not call it lame).

The number of girls ensures that you find what you are looking for, unless you don't speak portugese. And I don't. So again my friends investigated if there are english speaking ladies, obviously very few. I came to know one. It turned out to be her first day in this club, my first day too, she looked really great, spoke english. Nothing more required.

She asked for 300 but finally we settled on 200 (hihi, my Brasilian firends had to pay 250 BRL each for their girls). There are many rooms belonging to the club. The reception collects 80 BRL in exchange to the key card. Good that I have experience with hotels, so I could show Irene on her first day how to open the door with key card, where to put it to get the lights on and so forth :)

The rooms are excellent. Well designed, very clean, with shower and toilet. From now on Irene showed her skills. It was the most enjoyable hour I had during my hole trip to Brasil.

Before leaving I had to pay my bill of about 70 BRL. Which I found very ok for a number of beers and one LD. Obviousy no entrance fee. Perhaps payd with the hotel stay.

I enjoyed the evening and I can recommand this place.

Genghis Khan

04-30-11, 23:49

Nice to hear you are back in paradise Sui Generis.

GK

Sui Generis

05-01-11, 05:15

Nice to hear you are back in paradise Sui Generis.

GKthanks GK.

To tell the truth, actually I feel more like a fallen angel.

I have the feeling that I'm getting older and older and I begin to have some doubts about my future as a hobbyist. I took a rest today with no activities related to the hobby.

I was invited to a terrace on the Rua Princesa Isabel (Brooklin Paulista) to have a late afternoon drink with a colleague from a well known national forum. He was there with a stunning mulata (she was easily 5'10') and a couple of friends that were not hobbists. Most of them were Brazilian of German descent, two men from Argentina and a man from Uruguay. One of them was probably very rich because he was driving a Convertible Porsche Carrera. I felt like a looser with my bus pass in my pocket. And I was still unable to drink alcool because of the medication I am taking.

Went back home around 18H00. I took a shower and went to a poetry concert in Casa das Rosas (there was a lecture of Ferreira Gullar's Poesia Suja). Bought a couple of books by Lucia Santaella on the FNAC Paulista. I saw a couple of cuties on my way back inside the metrô and my sex drive almost came back to normal.

While I was waiting for my bus on Santa Cruz metrô station a huge cockroach crawled on my leg. A woman that was standing besides told me what was going on. I shaked my leg and the cockroach ran away and she tried to hide among the bags an old woman was carring. She was crying and asked me to kill the enormous barata. I shaked the bags and the cockroach ran away and hide itself on a crack in the wall. I began to talk to the woman that informed me that there was a cockroach on my leg. She was in her mid 30's, a girl next door and probably doable. I sat with her on the bus and we talked a lot. She said to me that her brother in law was a Canadian living in Victoria and that she loved Canadians. I didn't push my luck with her but she sexually aroused me. I'm old enough to know when I'm not at the top of my physical shape.

Back home I opened my laptop and perused the national forum. I discover that there's a garota living in the same flat where I am (on the corner of Pavão and Arguari). She's looking very sexy. She seems to be new to the business and the reports on her are very positive. I'll try to contact her later this week.

Her name is Valentini de Luxe and at $R250 she looks more like a bargain than « de Luxe.

http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sao-paulo/component/option,com_modelos/task,perfil/id,1662/

Sui Generis

05-01-11, 08:03

After writing the post just above, I was so aroused that I decided to see what was going at the Privê dos Eucaliptos. This privê, which is located in Moema, is only 20 minutes away from where I am staying. Even if it was 12h30 am, there no problem walking on the street in that barrio. The night was good at 21c and the air around me was very balmy because of the smell of tropical plants and trees.

I had only a previous experience (a negative one in 2007 if I'm not mistaken) at the privê dos Eucaliptos. I knew that it was the only privê that was open so late that night (I'm fact it stays open untill 6h00 am).

When I arrived there there were already 7 or 8 guys waiting. Most of them were very young (between 18 and 25 maybee). All the rooms were occupied and I didn't have a garota's parade. I saw only one girl: Jessica. As she was not my type I didn't pick her up and waited for more garotas. I saw three more garotas but they were already chosen. Finally a saw a garota that was free. My intention was to prove to myself that I was still able to sustain an erection while doing a garota. I said to her : « Tá livre? » (Are you free?) and she replied positively. I didn't ask what was her restrictions or if she was providing a liberal service. I really didn't care. The animal part in me was monitoring my mind and I had only one thought : to f*k that garota!

Her name was Julia and she was a girl next door type with shoulder lenght blonde hair. Not a beauty, not ugly. There was nothing special about her. She was wearing a halter top and a short jeans skirt with high hell. She gave me a wrapped towel, she took clean sheets and we climb the stairs to the second floor. The room was large with a shower on one corner. Nothing fancy there. She gave me her liquid soap when I was in the shower. The put the clean sheets on the bed and undress herself. Her skin was tanned and I was very very happy to see that there was a patch of hair around her pusssy! Her breasts were normal (not fake) maybe a B-cup.

The action: she began to kiss me all around my body. Sucking my nipples with a lot of saliva, gently chewing them and caressing my balls with her hands. She licked my balls and my scrotum. It was followed by a BBBJ. I was very hard and ready to come. I asked her to perform a 69. Her pussy was clean and it was smelling good. I tried to insert a finger in her anus but she said no. She put a condom on my John and I took her D-4 (doggy style). I came a few minutes later in that position. Bang!

Total amount of the damage: R$70 for half an hour.

I came back home with an happy face.

The privê is located at 657 dos Eucaliptos. Nothing fancy there but garota that are eager to please you and that's good enough for me.

Sui Generis

05-03-11, 02:45

I've changed my plans for today. To no avail, I tried all day long to contact free lance garotas (advertising on Club Model or KissKlass). I left several messages but I had no returns.

Then my phone rang and I was all excited because I thought that one of the garota was calling me back. On the phone it was my friend, my wingman and my mentor. I told him about my unfortunate attempts and he said that he could arrange something with one or two mulatas he knows. The only problem is that he's over 2 meter tall and the garotas he had in mind for me were something like 1m85. I saw the blog of one the the garota; she looked nice but as I said she's damn too tall for me. They may be good for him but not for me. The other reason I was not too much excited about meeting a mulata (or if you wish a black woman) is that I've spend 25 years with one. Now I'm longing for variety. In fact, I'm more attracted to morenas and even blonde with fair complexion. I am maybee the only man on earth that refutes the saying « When you go black you never go back ».

Anyways, I asked him about the Espaço Morumbi (he's there very often lately) and he proposed that we go there. On the way he described to me the garotas that were hot nowadays. I asked about Thais (loira) but apparently that didn't ring a bell to him.

When we arrived at the Espaço Morumbi (them thereafter) we were greeted by Fefão (Fernando). We sat confortably on a couch in order to be ready for the garota's parade. But before the parade I had time to ask Fefão about Thais. He said to me that for the moment she, s not working there anymore because she had to undergone an operation (something related to the teeth) and she may be away for two months at least.

I saw maybe 7 girls garotas for the apresentação (parade). Boy! They were all hot and sexy. No garotas over 7. 5/10 but for me that more than enough. A garota named Yasmim catched immediately my attention. A mulata clara (it's hard to describe this mixture: what is more approximate is maybe a girl like Alicia Keys or Mariah Carey. Golden might ressemble her skin complexion) with a body to die for.

She was wearing a beautifull dress revealing a generous cleavage and you could see that her bunda were made to be grabbed. I didn't hesitate and told Fefão that she was the one! Fefão called Yasmim and told her to really take care of me. She looked at me with a sexy smile and said « Vamos » (Let's go!). I couldn't resist the view I had when we climbed the stairs. That beautifull ass that was dangling in front of me was a reminder that I were going to heaven.

Yasmim is maybe in her mid twenty (I didn't asked) and her hair are shoulder lenght and the color of caramel. Besides the fact that her physicial attributes are simply out of this world you really cannot miss the fact the she has 19 tatooes, a peirced navel, a pierced tongue and a pierced clitoris. Her breasts are natural (D cup) , not even saggy, and her nipples are sensitive and protuberant.

Before going to the description of the session, I'd like to mention that this casa is always very clean. While I was taking my shower (inside the room but in an enclosed area) she put clean sheets on the bed. She joined me under the shower and we began to kiss: DFK all the way! After the shower we went directly to the bed and she began to caress me. Her skin is soft as silk and she was smelling so good. Before climbing to the room with her I had the information that she an expert in giving longand wet blowjob. She proved to me that it was true. What an expert! She sucked my balls, my scrotum, my tights with a perfect pression, playing with her tounge piercing around the tip of my penis, deeptroathing me, etc.

After a while I asked her that I would like to eat her pussy. She turned around and we performed a 69. The sight of her pussy was even more stimulating that I could imagine. She was also very receptive as I could feel that her body was quivering and she was making sound of satisfaction to express her pleasure. She asked me to put a finger in her ass while I was still licking her wet pussy. I finally exploded in that position.

One of the best session I have ever had. I'll come back to them, but I don't think I'll repeat there's too much beautiful garotas I want to taste.

R$70 for 1/2h

Sui Generis

05-04-11, 01:51

A sexy afternoon with two sex machines.

Guys, take a pencil and a piece of paper. You'll need it to write down the name of that CLínica:

.841 Avenida Moema.

As I am supposed to meet an friend (not in the hobby) tonight and I was expecting his phone call at noon, I had a free afternoon to spend. I didn't have enough time to go downtown or to visit a museum. In order not to waste that free afternoon, I decided to combine two activies into one.

1) Take pictures of Moema (another hobby)

2) Visit a new CLínica in Moema.

Site: http://www.redmassagem.com.br/

I knew perfectly where the CLínica was located, so I didn't have to look at Google Map to orient myself. On my way to the Clinica I took several pictures of different things in Moema.

From where I am located, in the «bird part » of Moema (Avenida Ibirapuera cuts Moema in two: on the West Side all the streets names are for birds [Tuim, Gaivota, Rouxinol, Pavão, etc] while on the other side the streets were named after Indian's tribes [Nhambiquaras, Jamaris, Jurema, Maracatins, etc. ], it's a twenty to twenty five minutes walk.

Avenida Moema starts at the corner of Avenida Iraé and the corner North East of Praça Nossa Senhora the Aparecida, a beautiful park with a nice white church (facing Avenida Ibirapuera). While I was in the park, I took a lot of pictures of the church, the trees, tropical plants, buildings, birds, etc.)

Another way to find the Avenida Moema is to look for the popular bar / restaurant A Estalagem

http://www.aestalagem.com.br/

(Tell me if I'm not mistaken but the music on the WEb site is All of Me By Oscar Peterson isn't? I'm a jazz buff)

The clinica is just a couple of streets from there.

As you can see on the Red's site, the installations are A-1. The local is well decorated, with good taste and very clean. I was greeted by a woman manager (maybee an ex-garota) in her 30's. She was very polite and with good manners. She said to me to make myself comfortable and she explains what were the prices or the different options available (you can see them on the Web site).

Duringr the apresentação (parade) I saw about a dozen of exquisite garotas. All were straight 8. 5 to 9. 5/10. There were also a couple of men waiting in the CLínica and they were all very well dressed with expensive suits. They looked like healthy business man. A big difference with what I see in privês. More of the Joe the Plumber style.

The first garota catched already my attention. Her name was Antonella. A 5'6' mulata with a perfect body. It's strange because on their Web site there are several pictures of a certain Antonella but I don't really recognize her. Are they really pictures of her? Maybe it's another Antonelle? I dunno. The three stars tatoo is the same however. She was better in person than on these « photos » of her.

Then came number 12: Mel. White skin (very fair complexion, eburnean I would even dare to say) with long silky jet Black hair, piercing blue eyes, pouty lips. The way she looked at me was enough to gave me a solid hard on. Her smile was a real killer!

I told one of the women manager (they were two) who my pick was: Mel. The manager showed me a room upstair, a very clean one, and she gave me a wrapped towel. She said that Mel was coming soon and she add the traditional « Fique a vontade » (Make yourself comfortable). Not to be mistaken with « Fuck a vontade ».

When Mel arrived I looked at her and said to myself how lucky I was to have a little East European princess mixed with tupiniquim Blood. I caressed gently her arms and she did the same thing to me while looking directly into my eyes. Ahhh que gatinha! (Oh my little pussycat!). Her skin was very soft, having almost a silky texture.

I asked her to choose a girl she was compatible with because my intention was to make a duo. Believe it or not but she picked up Antonella. I was so thrilled that my reaction was almost childish. I hope she didn't notice it.

Here I was with two incredible garotas. And actiooooooonnnnnnnn!

DRAMATIS PERSONAE

MEL: a real baixinha (short girl) 5'0' or 5'1' without her high heels shoes. She's originally a gaucha from Curitiba (a city located in South of Brazil) of Ukraninan and Latvian descent. That explains the light complexion, the blue eyes, the Slave look, the mistery. Her breasts are big (D-cup) but a little big saggy. She has a big rose tatoo, which is very artistic, on her belly and there's a light trace of cellulite on her buttocks. She easily could be a Photo model because her face is almost perfect. That's propably her best physical attribute. In fact she reminds me of Silvia on the Club Model site (another Slave girl) http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sao-paulo/component/option, com_modelos / task, perfil / I'd. 1508/ (especially the last pic of her portfolio).

I got under the shower when Mel asked Antonella to join us.

ANTONELLA: a 5'6'/5'7' mulata from Rio (on the site they say she's a morena, not quite true. If it's the same pictures evidently). She lived three years in Milano (Italy). A very beautiful face with delicate features, huge brown eyes, long blonde hair (I'm an expert when it comes to women hair, as my ex wife was Black I knew already it was extensions) and perfect white teeths. Her body was adorned by several tatooes. No fat on the body, very sarada (firm and well trained) and an incredible pair of breats with protruding nipples. And, thanks god, a buceta (pussy) with well-groomed hair.

Genghis Khan

05-04-11, 10:58

I just found out that a girl I have been looking for a long time is now working in a club in Curitiba. On the map it seems not that far from SP. Does anybody know the flight time and if Curitiba is otherwise worth the trip over for a day or two?

It would of course be the same price to ask her club owner to fly her over for a couple of days. If Curitiba is a drag it might be a better option.

GK

Sperto

05-04-11, 12:14

I just found out that a girl I have been looking for a long time is now working in a club in Curitiba. On the map it seems not that far from SP. Does anybody know the flight time and if Curitiba is otherwise worth the trip over for a day or two?I think Curitba is definitely worth a couple of days. It's a very different brazilian city. Very clean, neat and pleasant.

I have never tried the mongering scene in Curitiba. Only the non-pro scene, which was good.

Sui Generis

05-04-11, 12:24

I just found out that a girl I have been looking for a long time is now working in a club in Curitiba. On the map it seems not that far from SP. Does anybody know the flight time and if Curitiba is otherwise worth the trip over for a day or two?

GKCuritiba is slightly over 200 miles (340km) away from SP.

It's an average flight of 1h and the prices are between R$97 to R$130.

http://www.emsampa.com.br/voos/curitiba_sp.htm

Curitiba is the capital of Parana and it's described as The Model City of South America. The French car manufacturer Renault has a big assembly line down there and the unemployment rate is only 4%.

The (non-pro) nightlife is good but I know nothing about the boates, escorts or privês down there. It's a nice city to visit but keep in mind that's probably not Rio or São Paulo when it comes to hobbying.

Sui Generis

05-04-11, 12:32

For those who love German cuisine and beer I highly recommend two places in São Paulo:

1) The first one is located in Brooklin Novo (not far from Santo Amaro) and it's called Zur Alten Mühle (The Old Windmill). Eine typische Bierstube! Their beers are out of this world and the cuisine is fine too. There are some table outside on the sidewalk.

http://saopaulo.unlike.net/locations/305229-Zur-alten-Muehle

2) Windhuk in Moema.

http://www.windhuk.com.br/

Both places are typical German restaurants

Sui Generis

05-06-11, 00:10

i took a rest (hobbywise) wednesday.

no privês, no clínicas, no free lance garotas, nothing.

went downtown yesterday to visit some bairros i'm not familiar with. went for instance near the sumaré metro station to visit the museum of the jewish culture in brazil (i'm not jew but i like to know things) , after that i went to visit the casa guilherme de almeida to was not too far from there. guilherme de almeida (1890-1960) is one of my favorite brazilian poet.

after that i went to the masp (museum of art of são paulo) because there were two new exhibitions : painting in the romantic era and seing and being seen: the art of portraiting.

going to the masp, something happened to me. when i went out of the masp-trianon metro station, on avenida paulista, i felt and i landed hardly on one of my buttock. i was immediately surrounded by a hord of people who were ready to help and to inquire if i was okay. i wonder if i would have had the same reaction montreal.

i was not really hurted (maybe only my ego!) but i still have a diffuse pain in the buttock where i landed. when i came back to my abode, i took a shower and looked at the national forum in brazil. as i was perusing the brazilian forum i saw on their affiliated escort service portal (it's not an agency, it's most like a portal where the girl advertise themselves) there were several new garotas. i was thrilled when i saw among them fabiane thompson who is according to my taste one of the best looking gal in the international porn business (with monica mattos and fernandinha fernandez among others). for me, fabiane thomspon is like a mix of tera patrick and lanie barbie)

http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanh...erfil/id.1735/

http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanh...erfil/id.1474/

her add came at 19h45. at 19h50 i was calling her. to no avail. once again i hit a [[i]caixa postal[/i. i left a message but untilnow (almost 24h after) she diin't called back.

this morning i didn't waste my time and try to call her back. i had the same deceiving result. i said to myself that maybe i should choose a plan b. my plan b was kendrya vaz.

http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanh...erfil/id.1687/

kendrya, at 41 years old and 42 in a couple of weeks, is what we call a « coroa » (an « old lady ») or a milf. an arab and italian mix. she appeared on the cover of several men's magazines in brazil. originally she's from curitiba and spend most of his time in porto alegre and other cities in brazil. she is making a two months stop in são paulo and i said to myself that today it was maybe my chance to see her. i picked up the phone, dialed her number and. porra! that caixa postal again. i tried half an hour later and i was more lucky because she answered the phone. i don't know if i wake her up because her voice was a little bit strange. that's funny because, so far, she has had three reviews on the national forum and the first men who met her a couple of montds ago made the same comment. she gave me already her address and the number of her appartment (which is quite unusual because habitually they asked you to call them when you're not far from where they live. maybe she did that because i told her that i don't have a cellular.) it was 11h00am and i told her that i would like to see her at 02hpm.

she's living in the bairro of bela vista, at some distance from avenida paulista, on the rua frei caneca (which is just after rua augusta for those who know são paulo and both streets cross avenida paulista). so i took a bust to ana rosa metro station and i exited at metro consolção at 01h30pm. i walked slowly on frei caneca untill i arrived at her flat which is locted near the frei caneca super market) at 01h50 punktlich! |i went inside and i had to register. nothing fancy. the girl at the desk looked at my drive rlicense and wrote down my name on her register. took the elevator to her appartment. i knock and she opened the door. bang! she was exactly like the picture, waiting for me in sexy white lingerie.

at 5'1' or 5'2' she's quite small, so i had to bend my back to kissed her on the doorstep. she's very lively and extroverted. she put some music on and began already to dance telling me that she's going to perfom a strip for me when i'll come out of the shower. when i came back she ordered me to lie down on the bed. she then began to dance and to strip over me. for a 41 years woman she is very very very sexy (okay the boobs are faked but the rest is in good shape). it shows that she knows what she's doing. she's a former dancer and her moves were sensual and provocative.

she kissed me everywhere my some chewing action (almost hard) around my nipple. but her forte was the bbbj. man! she's an expert. different pression, different speed, playing with the tip, garganta profunda (deep throat) untill she gagged, a lot of saliva. a-1 on that department. i asked her to give me her pussy. a 69 session with no mysery. digits in her pussy and her anus. there's a term in brazil which is : barba, cabelo e bigode (litterally: beard, hair and mustache). at the time when you where going to the barber it meant that you were treated with good care andl all the « hairs » were trimmed. today in the hobbyis'st lingo it meas that the service was impeccable and all holes and position possible were executed. her service was barba, cabelo, bigode! woahhhh.

i went to the shower to clean myself. when i came back she asked me if would like to have a massage. i told her my wednesday mishap at the masp. she gave me a long and extremely professionnal massage. she probably did learned massage techniques because she did several techniques on me, she even walked on my back standing on her two feet. i felt so relax. every part of my body (i was laying on my face) were explored. she spend almost 45 minutes on the massage. then when i was reaaly relaxed she coverd my body with her nude body and put her velvet tongue in my ears and gently chewed my ear lobes. she kissed me everywhere on my back and ask me to take her again. another treatment of barba, cabelo, bigode.

gave her $r250 (that the price for 1h 1/2 even if my session was longer) and she said that she would like to see me again. she gave me her real name and her directions (plus msn) in order to keep contact with her. boy, she was a realy sex dynamo.

Sui Generis

05-09-11, 13:07

Meeting an ex GF and a quick visit to the Itaiaia (Praça the República)

One of the reason I'm in Brazil is that I'm in the process of writing something pertaining to the cultural history of the country (I work in the academic world). So, one of my pleasure is to buy and track down books that I am unable to obtain while I'm in Montreal. Either it would cost me too much money (the price they charge to send books overseas is a crime!) or the books are no more available at the main Internet book sellers (Submarino, Saraiva, Siciliano, etc,)

There exists in Brazil an Internet service which is called « Estante virtual » [Virtual bookshelf]. With that tool you can know where you can find second hand books in all the Sebos (sebo: second hand book stores) in Brazil.

I made my plans for the day: Buy some books that I need for my research.

1) Lucia Santaella / Werner Nöth. Imagem. Cognição, semiótica, mídia was available for R$35 at Sebo do Bac at 124 Praça Franklin delano Roosevelt (Consolação)

2) Ubirajara Rancan de Azevedo Marques: Kant e a música. 264, rua Sete de Abril (Metro República)

3) The Brazilian translation of Stendhal's Crônicas italianas by Sebastião Uchoa Leite (winner of the Jabuti prize in 1999 as the best translation) was available at 629, rua Bela Cintra.

As I was heading to centro (with a final stop close to Jardin) I called Liza Barros in order to arrange a dupla with Carol Morena (R$450 for two hours in their flat).

http://www.duplalizaecarol.********....b95f87f492e78e

Unfortunately they told me that they only work from Monday to Friday. It was not indicated on their Blog but this morning (while writing my review of Saturday) I found another site where it is clearly indicated.

http://www.volupiamodels.com.br/acom...etalhar&id=168

(I especially like their pics around the pool table: it's funny to see the drawings on the wall of Tim Maia and Chico Buarque, two giants of the Popular Music in Brasil (MPB).)

Then I changed my plans. Instead of finishing my trip to downtown São Paulo by a visit to Liza Barros and Carol Morena, I said to myself that it would be fun to visit the trash area close to the República Park. I also combined my trip with a photo session in that area.

When I left my abode around 10ham, I met my former GF right on the corner of Araguari and Rouxinol (no wonder: we only live a couple of predios apart!) I had seen her last Wednesday while I was walking on Rouxinol. The patio door of her apartment was open and she was putting new sheets on her bed. I didn't say Hello, from the street or called her. Since I intentionally broke up with my former wife. After 25 years. I don't want a steady relationhip with any women. This is the gift I gave to myself at 50's : since the kids are grown up, I just want to worry about myself. Anyways, I am in a creative process and I have no time for a steady romantic life with a woman right now.

She looked surprized to see me and she was sad when she learned that I was in São Paulo for almost 10 days now. She invited me to spend Sunday with her. Damn. I was caught. I told her that I was on my way to « garimpar » (I. E. Look for treasures) some sebos in Centro.

My trip downtown started at Praça the Sé. I took several pictures and went directly to the Praça Mendes. This place is well known because it is a « ponto » [sport] where you can find SW. There were none around 11ham. So I decided to stop at the heart of São Paulo: the Praça the Sé (in order to take pictures of the historical area and by some books at the UNESP library, Praça the Sé.108)

I went to Praça João Mendes (close to the Catedral the Sé) in order to see if there were SW working that late morning (11h30am). They were none. Instead I took pictures of vintage cars that were crusing on Rua Tabatinqüera. I bought some books at the Saraiva bookstore nearby.

I bought several books before my next destination: Praça the República.

After my purchase I decided to visit the infamous 9-story brothel: Itaiaia which is located at 134 Barão the Limeira.

It was around 1hpm and the joint was full packed! Almost impossible to climb the stairs. In that building the spiral staircases are very narrow and when the flow of people going up met the flow of people going down the circulation is stalled. I progressed in that way a couple of stories (four maybe) but I decided that I have seen enough garotas to have an idea.

I was surprised because most of them were attractives (and the more you go up the more attractive they are) even if I stopped my visit at the 4th floor. It's a R$25 brothel. You choose a girl, then a cubicle and you make out quickly on the bed (I wonder if they change the sheets!) Not really my typical ideal of a sexual contact with a woman. But to each his own.

Finally I went back home around 5hpm. I perused the Net in order to organise my evening. Found on the Club Model site the pictures of a new garota in Moema. I was attracted to her pics because she's exactly the type of woman I'm looking for: a beautiful morena with a slutty face, bikini marks, a patch of hair around the pussy. Her name is Bia Avelar.

http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanh...erfil/id.1733/

I phoned her and this time I was lucky. Someone answered the phone right away. I said that I wanted to talk to Bia and the person who answered the phone. Her roomate?. Said to wait a minute then Bia came. She said that she's not working on Saturday and Sunday. I made an appointment with her for Monday morning. She's living very close to where I am and her price is R$200. What a bargain for such a beauty! She was very friendly on the phone even if here and there I could discern some PPP in her conversation (PPP: [I]palavra padrão puta[/I I. E. The way hookers talk to Johns]) like: querido (darling) , meu amor (my love) , um beijo (I kiss you).

What was my next option? A visit to Red massagem. But I had no time to waste. Saturday they close at 7hpm

Sui Generis

05-09-11, 13:30

Almost 5pm.

Took a shower. I also had to change my clothes, new underwear, new socks, shaved myself, brushed my teeths.

Drank a cold bottle of Nortena (a beer from Uruguay).

As I wrote it in another post, Red Massagem is for me at the other end of Moema. It would have take me 25 minutes (at a fast pace) to go there. How was it Saturday evening? Was the CLínica full packed?

I didn't hesitate to cross the street in front of my flat: I directly went to the ponto de taxi: taxi stand.

I gave the directions to the driver: corner of Avenida Moema and Avenida dos Tupiniquins. Damn! Saturday late evening. A lot of circulation in Moema (lot of restaurants and bars, a trendy nightlife. Highrise condos. One of the luxurious bairros of São Paulo. In fact it is the most expensive) Will I be able to make it on time?

Ouf, finally we arrived on Avenida Ibirapuera. On the other side of the bairro (in the Indian part because the streets are name after Indian tribes) there is less traffic because it is less trendy. At 5h40 I was finally at Red massagem.

The same manager was there. I asked her he rname: Erica. Maybe an former garota. She's my type. Mid 30's, morena, beautiful smile, not too tall (5'3'). I flirted with her. She presented me to the other manager (I forget her name). A tall blonde (late 30's, mid 40?). Very sexy, with small wrinkles around her eyes. For a moment I fantasized about having a duo with them! I quickly came back to reality. What could be worst than to be the lover of the boyfriend of a woman who runs a CLínica? There would be no ways anymore to use that facility.

Few guys in the waiting room. A gigantic mulato, an old Japanese, a moreno and a very good looking Australian (Erica introduced me to him. We shook hands. From what I've heard I think he has a good command of the Brazilian language. Us, members of the Commonwealth, are more prone than the Yankees to master foreign languages).

Erica gave me a beer (an Itaipava)

http://www.cervejaitaipava.com.br/index/intro

Then it was time for the apresentação.

A young morena came first: Nicole (pronounced Nicoly). She looked like a Quebecer more than a Brazilian. Black hair, light complexion, small bundas. The same friendly attitude as escorts in Montreal. Not exactly a beauty but a certain charm (I would quote her 7. 5). She catched my attention because she looked very funny and open.

Then came another girl. A blonde. I don't remember her name. Not my type.

Then Keysse (her pics are on the site). Wow! I don't really like her pics but in person she's a bomb (9. 5)! Tall and all in curves, she was very well dressed.

Thencame a light mulata: Valeria (a 7. 0). Cute, but nothing special. A little chubby though. (Her pics are also on the site) Forte: beautiful face, great smile, nice curly hair. That was it. And the time was running out! Almost 6hpm and I wanted an hour session (a dupla) before they closed (at 7hpm).

I hesitated between Nicole and Keysse. The big mulato guy was there before me and he picked up Keysse. To bad.

Then some other garotas came out from the rooms (they had finished their sessions with their customers). I saw two Japanese garotas. I didn't have time to see in details the first one but the second one was the Hiroshima atomic BOMB! Incredibly beautifull. Very tall for a Japanese (probably a nissei: Japanese borned in Brazil) : 5'8' or 5'9' long dark hair, with large breasts and a Brazilian bunda. She was wearing a beautifull dress. Oh my God, she was so sexy!

She reminded me of Sabrina Okimoto, a Japanese garotas I was crazy for in 2007 when I met her in the former Charms Privê in Praça the Arvore. Damn she was also booked. By the Australian (you lucky bastard!).

I also saw Mel (my first session in Red Massagem). We kissed each other. She was also busy. Negative point: she was wearing the same outfit as Tuesday: a small jeans skirt and a white top. Honey, some variety in clothing won't kill yourself. (I hope she wash it everyday)

I called Erica and told her that I would like to see the other Japanese. She came to present herself. No, not my type, too chubby and too much the girl next door type. I told Erica that I would like to go out with Nicole (the first one I saw) and that she could choose a girl she's comfortable with.

When Nicole picked me up to go to the room, I saw another garota. Very tall, damn sexy and in the 9. 0 area. Too bad I've already made my choice. The choice of Nicole for the dupla was Valeria, the mulata clara.

I made a joke about them when we were climbing the stairs because both of them had the same pair of shoes: pink shoes. I asked them if they were wearing them as their color team.

Nicole was even better than I expected. Nice body and a very nice attitude. I felt really comfortable with her. I took a shower, then Nicole. While she was in the shower Valeria began to warm me up. Discret kisses (LFK) , tongue on my nipples. We were standing up and she was massaging my penis with her other hand. I was hard immediately. She asked me to lay on the bed and began to caress me. She asked me to suck her bignatural breasts. She began to suck me and it was good. Then Nicole came out of the shower and it was her time to take care of me. I thought that Valeria's BBBJ was good but Nicolly's BBBJ was 10x better.

Nicole was more sensual and horny than Valeria. A lot of DFK, digits, moaning, lubricated pussy (dripping wet). I even made her squirt. Her nipples were exceptional: very long and sensitive. It was a pleasure to suck them.

Valeria joined us after her shower. They began to kissed each other in front of me, long DFK at three, they shared my cock both of them sucking it. One of them sucking my cock, the other my balls. Nicole and me we took care of Valeria: Nicole sucking her pussy, Valeria sucking my cock. Carroussel in different positions.

I came while I was doing a 69 nine with Nicolly and Valeria was giving me a beijo negro (she was performing analingus).

We took a rest. Second session was as good as the first. There were 15 minutes left. Valeria came back with two more Itaipava. We chatted until the time was up.

Final evaluation: Nicole! Wow. Not the best looking girl (7. 5) but still very attractive, very charming (I wouldn't have problems to present her to my friend or being seen in public with her) , and very desirable in her way. She is a very good performer and she likes what she does.

Valeria: some restrictions at the start. Mostly LFK (beijo de selinho) , DFK at the end. But overall less into it than Nicole.

Definitely Red Massagem is now my place! R$200 (R$180 if you are a GP Guia poster) for a dupla without restrictions. It's almost insame. Don't forget that I also saw girls in the 9. 0 to 10. 0 range there. I must come back to try that sexy japanese.

Sui Generis

05-10-11, 16:46

THIRD VISIT TO RED MASSAGEM, Moema.

ELIS & MONICA.

This morning I'll start with a typical Brazilian expression: « Tô de pernas bambas! » (My legs are flabby!).

What is the cause of that sudden ailment? Don't' worry, I don't have too look to far to diagnose the reason of my plight.

Yesterday, at Red Massagem, I ended up in bed with two furacões (tornadoes) and they conspired against me to drain all the sexual energy that was left in my poor aging body.

Let's begin at the start.

Monday morning.

Another day in Centro in order to pick up more books in Sebo. I like that system because it is convenient and, in principle, trustworthy. I had planned my itinerary for the day. First stop at the Consolação metro station and from there visit a sebo (used books store) which was located at 629 Bela Cintra. They had a copy of Sebastião Uchoa Leite translation of Stendhal's Chroniques italiennes. That version won the Jabuti prize of the best Portuguese translation in 1999. Unfortunately this work (published by UNESP) is no more available. My intent was to compare Uchoa Leite (1935-2003) version, a well renowned poet, with the source text in French.

Well, when I arrived at the adress, the loja (store) was empty, almost in ruin. Several men were working on the building that was in bad shape. I asked about the sebo. No wonder, they didn't know. (Why should mansonry workers care about poetry and translation? I'm sure they have better things to do). Well, not a total waste because I had my camera and on my way I took several pictures of interesting sites. (This year I'm taking especially pictures of graffities, among other things).

Empty handed (the coveted book out of my reach) , I went to my next destination: Praça Theodor Roosevelt. I figured out that the best way to reach that destination (from Bela Cintra) was to walk along Consolação. On my way I took a lot of pictures. I even made a stop at the Consolação Cemetary in order to take nice shots of tombstones and funeral crypts that were works of art in themselves. (In an anthropological sense, the way a civilization treats their deads tells us a lot of things about that culture).

On my way, I encountered a Sebo. I went inside and ask the guy if he had the Uchoa Leite's translation of Stendhal. He looked at his computer (logged to estante virutal = virtual bookshelf) and he said that he « probably » had a copy in the backstore. His employee was out of the store. He asked me to come back an hour later. As I was not far from my next destination, Praça Roosevelt, I went directly to the other sebo.

Once again, deception. The damn sebo was closed. I looked in my note book and I saw that I had jotted down the name of another sebo in the viccinity: Flanarte on 264, rua Sete de Abril, near the República metro Station. (For those knowing São Paulo, you can realize that there's a long distance between Consolação's metro station and Republica. That's the distance I walked). I was more lucky at Flanarte: no copy of Uchoa Leite but several books coveted were available. I bought them.

Went back to the Sebo on Consolação. The asshole who owns the shop, said to me that he made a mistake: he doesn't have a copy of what I was slooking for. I walked all that distance for nothing. And I was between to metro station. I used my sense of orientation and decided that the closest metro station would be Anhangabaú. On my way I made a stop at Mario de Andrade Librabry (what a nice building) and took some pictures. I especially like the statue of Camoes in front of the building. Took several pics from different angles.

Took the metro (from Anhangabaú on the red line to Praça the Sé and made a connection to the blue line, direction Jabaquara). I got off the subway at Santa Cruz (Vila Mariana). I knew that there was a pizzaria on (almost) the corner of Domingos de Morais and Luís Gois. I tried to locate the place but it was gone. This is not the first time this year that I look for places I know and they are gone. The best example is John Sehn (on Lavandisca, in Moema) , a German Bierstube that was one of my favorite spot. The building is now vacant. The same thing for a small restaurant on Pintasilgo, the owners were from Argentina and they used to prepared for me very good lasagnas. Now it's a new restaurant selling « aphrodisiac food ». Hopefully, I don't need this!

It was beginning to rain, I had no umbrella and I was hungry. I decided to stop at a restaurant nearby: Making Burgers. 3108 Rua Domingos de Morais.

http://makingburgers.com.br/

Big mistake. The idea is maybe great but there's nothing worst than eat a kind of food you are very familiar with in your country and to realized that it taste differently in another country. (God bless that pussies taste the same all around the world!). I didn't like the cheese in my hamburger, the meat was of good quality but too salty. I didn't eat all of it. The fries were also too greasy. I even spilled ketchup on my shirt. I had a white shirt, a grey / green casual President Stone suit, and jeans. I ended up my meal with a milkshake: that was yummy!

On my way back to Santa Cruz station I bought a couple of shirts (Santa Cruz metro station is also a Shopping Center). A made a good purchase: nice fabrics, nice colors, good quality, for R$89 each. When I arrived home, I put my pyjama on and took a rest. I was kind of exhausted form my long walk downtown. I didn't sleep, I just relaxed a little bit. I watched TV and read a little bit.

It was around 6hpm. I said to myself that it was time to organize my evening. I was still haunted by the vision of that beautiful « Japanese » in Red Massagem and I had also the opportunity to see Bia Avelar (I tlaked to her Saturday). I made a quick calculation: Bia Avelar R$200; Red Massagem R$200 for a dupla. I acted like a dumb kid and I choose what was bigger. (I had no regrets but my choice was motivated by the fact that I could have two girls instead of one. My litlle head above was in control).

Took a shower, brushed my teeth, mouthwash, shaved my beard, put new clothes on- a nice lavender shirt (one I bought earlier that day) and a navy blue suit. With a clean pair of jeans. A few dabs of cologne. I was ready for some action. The evening was perfect in Moema: a nice 20c. I decided to walk the distance.

When I arrived the CLínica was quiet; no customers in the waiting room. Erica was in charge with another morena (a tall one; good looking). I also saw the blonde. They are all pretty but I prefer Erica. She greeted me. She send the girls for the apresentação. Maybe ten girls paraded in front of me. The « Japanese » was not among the garotas I saw. I went to enquire about her.

-« Do you have more girls tonight? »

- «No, that's all we have. »

-Where is the Japanese I saw Saturday- then I made a bried descrition of the garota I was looking for.

- «Oh, you probably mean Marina! She' snot Japanese but she has Indians features and she look like a Japanese. She only works Friday and Saturday. During the week she's a fitness trainer. »

That explains everything. The perfect body, the exotic look. Unfortunately, I'm suppose to go to my retreat in the country (Ubatuba) Thursday. On my way back to São Paulo, I'll try to cath her.

To be honest, on the presentation of the garotas, no one really caught my attention. The second one was good but I didn't remember her name. I asked Erica about the girls a saw and gave a brief descrition: tall, slim, brown hair, tattoes, beautiful eyes and a good rack. She added: You mean Mônica, the garota with the braces! Euh. Probably but I didn't notice the braces.

Mônica came to present herself. Not really a beauty (a 7. 0 or 7. 5) but she looked so nasty that I almost had an hard on instantly. I went to a room with her. She asked me if I would like to do a threesome. She added that her friend was a « safadinha » (a real ****). How can a man say no to that. She called Elis.

On my three visit to Red Massagem, I was always intrigued by Elis. Not a beauty: a baixinha (small garota : 1m58) , a 6. 5 maybe (this is so subjective because in the room she became a 8 for me) , short light brown hair, a slutty face, big boobs and big bunda. (She was always the only one in the apresentação. The parade of the garotas. To kiss on the mouth (almost a DFK). I didn't took her before because I was looking for beauty in the first place. In raw sex (where there's no love involved) , this is sometimes a mistake.

I was alone with Mônica in the room and we began to kissed each other. She was even better than I expected. She was very carinhosa (GFE) , her skin was soft, her body was perfect, nice boobs, a small pact of trimmed hair around the pussy, beautiful hips. I took a shower and she did the same thing after me. She joined me on the bed (Elis was not already in the room). Mônica began the session with an intense DFK. Her tongue was soft, hot and humid. She kissed with perfection. With her hand she was caressing very gently my body at a slow and sensual pace. She licked my body, my nipples, chewed them. And she gave me the famous Brazilian BBBJ: the one with a Halls in her mouth. So far it was my best BBBJ in this trip. She took her time, a lot of salive, eyes contact, licking and playing with the balls and the scrotum.

Elis entered the room. She looked at us and began to masturbate herself in front of us. I begged her to joins us. She then took a shower and after than she joined us. Her breasts ar huuuge and soft. Small belly and big ass. She looks so slutty that I had only the idea of playing with her. While Mônica was still providing her incredible BBBJ, I began to DFK Elis. After a while she asked me to suck her boobs. I was almost ready to come I had to concentrate myself to keep on going. I asked her to show me her pussy. We performed a 69 while Mônica was sucking my balls and giving me an analingus. We were in perfect synchronicity. Elis was moaning, her body was quivering. Mônica was telling dirty words. I came in Elis's mouth.

The best BBBJ I had ever had: 40 minutes of pure pleasure, no hurry, a lot of attention, GFE extra plus. I was to exhausted, pernas bambas, to ask for a secound round (there were barely 20 minutes left). Both girls at my side, we chatted while they were caressing my head, my chess, my legs. I was in heaven. Elis is originally from Jãoa Pessoa, that explains why she is different: she has A cara de nordestina.

I've learn something: beautiful girls are not always the best in bed. These nasty girls rocked my world yesterday.

Sui Generis

05-11-11, 13:22

few days left in são paulo. i'm going soon to a quiet village on the northern coast of são paulo.

http://en.brazilian-coast.com/northern-coast-of-sao-paulo/

i have chosen a town with no night life and no distraction because my main purpose is to write several essays and devote my time to intellectual activities.

before leaving sp, i had some business to do in the morumbi bairro.

made up a plan for the day: fabiane thompson (clubmodel site) was discarded because actually there are too many negative reviews since her comeback as a garota de programa: too expensive (r$400) , bad service, her boy friend watching and controling her, etc. i don't know if this is true, but i didn't take a chance in order to verify it. didn't called back neither bia avelar. i was not in the mood for a free lance garota: on the web, the pictures are nice but you never know how the person looks in reality. i certainly prefer clínicas and privês where you can see the garotas de visu.

so, i decided that i would make a stop at espaço morumbi (them thereafter). from the morumbi shopping center i walked along avenida roque petroni untill rua chafic maluf. then i turned on my right until i arrived at the civic number 101. you cannot miss it, it a small house painted in avocado green (former name of the house was referring to the color of the building: cubo verde: green cube). always several cars parked in front of the privê.

them: 101 rua chafic maluf (bairro chácara santo. antônio)

phone. 11) 5181-3648/5041-5128.

i was there around 3hpm and there were nobody in the waiting room (except the receptionist). i sat down on a sofa and she send me the girls for the apresentação. a dozen of garotas were available that afternoon. the first one i saw was yazmim. still very sexy and desirable but she was not terra incognita (or puta incognita?) for me because i did her monday of the preceding week. that mulata clare is among one of the best in the casa in term of beauty and service and i recommand her.

the other garotas were nothing exceptional (mostly in the 7. 0/7. 5 range). however there was an exception: gabi. a tall morena. 5'9' (1m75) with a tanned body, long legs, very slim and a nice pair of racks. i didn't asked her age but she's probably very young: between 18 to 22 max. habitually i don't pick up young garotas, i prefer them a litlle bit older, experienced, more in control, mature, etc.

i went to a room with gabi. inside the room i realized that something was going wrong. the garota was not talking and she was shy or distant. i felt uneasiness. i went to the shower and after it was her turn. i was waiting her in the bed, she came back in the room. was i confronted to a case of selective mutism, you know that case of anxiety disorder impairing a person to talk in certain situation. i began also to feel uncomfortable. she smiled timidly at me and joined me on the bed. i tried to kiss her and she turned her face offering me her cheeks. okay. i didn't say a word because i always respect the limits of a girl. i'm respectful and corteous and i believe that i always should behave like a gentleman even (or especially) in a bawdy- house.

so here i was: in a bed with a timid garota with restrictions. my mind started to worked rapidly: was she really timid? maybe she found me disgusting? she was afterall a very young and attractive garota and i was a old 50 years man? my uneasiness became stronger.

there were no foreplays with her: she began directly with a bbbj (at least there were no restrictions in that department). it was an incredible bbbj executed with maestria. very good technique, a lot of saliva, ball licking, perfect pressure. i became very hard and my peter my throbbing of desire. i tried to caress her body. her skin was soft, she had sexy long legs, a small derriere. i asked her he we could perform a 69. a second of hesitation but she agreed. beautiful pussy with a lot of lubrification. during the daty she finally reacted like a normal woman: she began to moan, to said it was good, to shake and twist her body. all her timidity was gone (so i thought).

i then asked her for d-4 (doggy style). she put a condom and place herself in a position to receive me. when i was ready to penetrate her i saw the reflection of her face in a mirror adorning the head of the bed. she was looking and she looked annoyed. i don't know if she really was but that was the perception i had. the psychological effect was instantly: eu brochei (i became soft). her attitude, her restrictions (was it because of me or it was part of her normal routine) , her lack of conversation were elements that rapidly added up to made me feel uneasy. there was nothing to do, my tesão (sexual desire) was gone.

she gave me another bbbj. i became hard again but was not able to concentrate myself to enjoy the moment. i was several time close to explode but i didn't achieved it. i asked her to stop and very politely i said to her that i was feeling too uncomfortable with her, that she was not enjoying my company, that she was distant, that even if she was a very beautiful garota i wouldn't be able to gozar (come) with her. i asked her to get dress (my time was almost finish anyways; i spend 25 minutes with her). i said that she can send me another garota. she asked me which one. i was so pissed off that i said i didn't really care. she insisted: « uma morena? uma loira? (a brunette? a blonde?) » without paying too much attention, i said « uma loira».

i took another shower before the visit of the second garota. the second garota was grazie. it was her first day in the privê. she also looked very young (18 to 22 range) but her attitude was different, she was smiling, joking, and she was able to made me feel more comfortable instantly. not really a beauty: false blond, braces, corpo mignonestilo ninfeta (small body [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s style). several tattoes that were contrasting with her very juvenile poise. a small belly. a 7. 0 but because of her attitude she looked to me like a 8. 5.

she took a shower. brief foreplay. no dfk but only a lfk (okay, definitely the garotas were with restrictions today. but this time i didn't let it bothered me). she licked my balls and my scrotum and then a bj that was covered (i didn't loose my concetration that time). i became hard, took her from behind d4. et voilà! i was satisfied.

when i went downstairs i met fefão and he asked me « você foi bem atendido? » [did you received a good service? ]. i said that i had problem with the first one but the second one was better. i told him not to blame the first one, the problem was probably me (i heard a george constanza's voice echoing in the back). sometimes it happens sometimes it didn't.

when i went back to my abode, i looked at the gp guia and guess what: gabi was a beginner at them (she started monday may 2nd) and there was only one review of her: and that review was devastating, a very negative review complaining about her lack of skills (that not really true: her bbbj was outstanding) and her lack of empolgaçoes (enthusiasm). too bad, but maybe it's not the right « job » for her.

total cost of the operation: r$70: gabi and r$70 for grazie: r$140 for an hour. habitually an hour is r$100 but i had two different garotas. it's fair and okay but for the moment them is not my numbe rone choice for this year: i'm a big fan of red massagem. better looking girls and all safadinhas (naughty).

tacet

LondonSoul

05-16-11, 01:34

Ok, in a nutshell, this city is EXPENSIVE. And a bit unsafe.

Contrary to popular belief the quality is generally quite low, though you do get a few stunners few and far between. Ofcourse the stunners are. V EXPENSIVE! The low quality are high priced too.

Spent all weekend looking for some action. Tried places in Jardines, prive in Alameda Jau. 5 girls of which 3 were fat old and ugly. 1 was in her 30's and looked like a junkie, and the last was a tall black girl who had an extra nipple. She was the best of a poor bunch but only a 4 at best. Tried prive on Alameda Franca. 2 girls on, one ugly, the other had a g8 body but a huge mole on her face. No no no thank you.

Went to Rua Augustas Sat night, full of guys and 90% of the girls were below 1-4. A couple of 7's who were asking for 250 reals for half hour. When speaking to her she said, look around you all the girls here are ugly. And she was right. Tried Night time (or some name like that) a few doors down, again, poor quality but cheaper prices being asked around 100-150 Rls. Nothing to write home about. Tried another place further down, the bouncer said there were 20 girls inside, there were only 5, none good. Had to pay an entrance fee.

Invited a girl I met some time ago to my hotel today, she didn't turn up.

Went to a famous walk up in Liberdade. My advice, stay well clear. Very dodgy area, full of junkies and hobos. Girl quality is between MINUS 5 and 1, some TV's too. On a Sunday you could easily get mugged / stabbed on the staircase. If you're tempted to go, don't go alone. There's a reason why prices are cheap there.

Anyway, moving on to non P4P. If you don't speak Portuguese. I would go for another destination. Clubs are expensive to get in to a v good club (Moka or Boka I think the name was) on Augustas charges guys 140Rls entry only. For a few days its going to be difficult to hook up with a Brazilian girl. If you're staying for 3 months plus and you can speak some Portuguese, I think you can find a nice girl friend. But you need to have a little game like anywhere else, girls are fussy here.

Drinks expensive everywhere. Taxis expensive everywhere and almost all taxi drivers will take you around the houses if they think you are a tourist. You could pay treble for the journey. Best way to travel in the day is by Metro, clean and safe but just try to blend in and look like you live there and know where you're going.

Also don't go to Centro (downtown) alone at night. Very dangerous.

Villa madelena is a nice place to hangout lots of bars and better people.

In summary, you can get better cheaper action in Germany, U. S, far east etc. Not worth the air fare to come to SP for P4P unless you are super rich.

Voyajer1

05-16-11, 03:50

Try going to some of the Clinicas. Trust me, you won't be disappointed. They tend to cater to every taste and the cost is very reasonable, from 100 to 150br for an hour session depending on the Clinica. If you are still in Sao Paolo you should try a few of them, then go and try meeting regular girls. Your itinerary as you previously wrote suggested you were going to try for high end fare. I don't even try going there, it is a complete waste of time and money. I go for value always, get the most a$$ for the buck, plain and simple. There are plenty of diamonds in the rough at these places. If you have time, check them out.

Albert Punter

05-16-11, 05:15

Ok, in a nutshell, this city is EXPENSIVE.
Agreed but still not for sex, particularly when you consider cost/service ratio.

And a bit unsafe.
Agreed, you know where to go and how to move around.
Let me add however this is not the only unsafe city in the world.

Drinks expensive everywhere.Yes, food and drinks in those restaurants we foreigners go are expensive.
However, if you live like a Brazilian you can eat/drink with few reais.

Taxis expensive everywhere and almost all taxi drivers will take you around the houses if they think you are a tourist. You could pay treble for the journey.
I disagree, never found a taxi driver like this. Maybe it is just because I am fluent in Portuguese ?

In summary, you can get better cheaper action in Germany, U. S, far east etc. Not worth the air fare to come to SP for P4P unless you are super rich.
Again disagree, please consider cost/service ratio too.
I don't think you can get same complete service you get here for same price in US or Germany.
In Far East yes, I agree you may find same for less.

BionicMan

05-16-11, 07:44

Ok, in a nutshell, this city is EXPENSIVE. And a bit unsafe.As somebody put it, try clinicas.

Weekend is also not the best time to go for clinica and msot of the GdP do not work much on sundays.

There are so many GdP ready to please at reasonable price (OK, this depends on the individual perception of reasonable) , and nice looking. They do full services including the A-level.

Golfinho

05-16-11, 13:25

I think Curitba... a very different brazilian city. Very clean, neat and pleasant.Everyone says that, but is it so true? Walk around the downtown a bit, think for a second that you're not in Brazil? It could be Goiania (south zone). Curitiba's not so different at bottom, unless you miss the ramshackle [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and filth found not a stone's throw away from anywhere in Brazil's tropical cityplaces.

Sui Generis

05-16-11, 15:28

Londonsoul,

It seems that you experience in São Paulo was a disaster. It's easy to pinpoint why.

1) No knowledge of the vernacular. This is definitely the main hindrance in a city like Sampa. It's not like Rio de Janeiro where you can bang garotas that are accostumed to deal with gringos. In São Paulo, if you want to have a girls speaking English you have to pay the price for it.

2) You went to the wrong places. The worst venues you can visit in Sampa are prîvé in Centro (or Jardins). In these districts you have either trash privês or high end free lancers (in Jardins). According to me, visiting a privê in Jardin was not a good option. There are an array of high end garotas living in Jardins (maybe the most populated bairro where garotas receive in their flats) : you can have garotas in the 8/10 to 9. 5/10 range for R$200, R$250 or R$300. Different types of women: blonde, brunette, nissei, mulata, redhair, negrita, etc. Some of them are fluent in English. Where else in the world can you have that variety? In Asia? Definitely not. In Germany in the FK clubs? Neither and you'll pay more for less time.

3) Rua Augusta is maybe the dirtiest place in São Paulo. No wonder you didn't like it.

4) Lately I've posted a lot of lists of places that are open on Sunday. It's not true anymore that Sunday or weekends are slow in São Paulo. I'll just give you one example: Carol Pierre is one of the best garota de programa in São Paulo. She lives in Moema (and since last week she moved from her flat on Macuco to a falt on Jandira) and she has a Sunday special. Habitually her price is R$300 (Monday to Saturday) and R$200 (Sunday).

5) I've posted several lists of CLínicas in São Paulo that are exceptionnal. (Red Massagem, CLínica Cancioneiro, Palms).

6) I've directed (in PM exchanges) fellow hobbyists to privês that have a good reputation: Redway, Espaço Morumbi and several other venues.

It's true that São Paulo is a city for people that have money. There are more than 30, 000 millionaires living here (that is 60% of all millionaires in Brazil) but they are also a lot of venues for people who are living on a shoestring budget. I can dine out for less than R$50 and for even less if I want.

I never had problems with taxistas and they know that I am a gringo (because even if I'm perfectly fluent in Portuguese I still have a French Canadian sotaque (accent) when I speak). Is it only in Sampa that taxistas try to take advantage of gringos? I'm sure that it occurs everywhere in the world. I never let anybody intimidate me, I always take the lead and show them that I'm not an otáRio (fool).

Tips: before visiting a city try to read a lot about that city. Learn at least some words. Visit the local forums.

I wrote a post a couple of weeks ago. When I was in Red Massagem I met a guy from Australia (he was introduced to me by Erica, the manager of the CLínica). The guy (apparently) was fluent in Portuguese (he didn't like a tourist, maybe he was working there) ; it shows that it is possible for gringos to have fun in Sampa. However, I agree with you: it comes with a price. What is that price? To spend several hours learning the language.

This being said I prefer Sampa over any cities in Brazil (especially Rio) because here there are less tourists and especially American gringos. I even predict that there will be less gringo hobbyists in Brazil in the year to come because the prices are higher than a couple of years ago. Americans spoiled the market in my hometown (Montreal) when their $$ was higher than the Canadian $. Now that most of them have deserted the city (because they cannot realize the same bargain as before) the prices are better than a couple of years ago. They did the same thing in Rio. Wait a couple of years and Rio will become one more time a reputable city where you ca have decent fun for a fair price. For me it is still possible to do this in Sampa because the gringos have never spoiled the market here. It's true that there are some that are complaining about the disparition of places like Bahamas. Those venues were overpriced and some of the garotas that were working there (and asking R$600 or R$300). Gisele Porto for example. Are now recieving in their flat for R$250 or R$300.

Albert Punter

05-17-11, 02:27

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Different types of women: blonde, brunette, nissei, mulata, redhair, negrita, etc. Some of them are fluent in English. Where else in the world can you have that variety? In Asia? Definitely not. In Germany in the FK clubs? Neither and you'll pay more for less time.

Well said Sui Generis.

In my post I forgot to mention what is the unique value of Brazil: VARIETY!

LondonSoul

05-18-11, 01:38

True, there is variety, but I'd rather have one or two really good ones of any one type then a variety of below average.

As I mentioned, I think if you speak Portuguese, have plenty of time to research and experiment, you know your way around and are planning on being in Brazil long term, there's certainly potential.

But for visitors who only have a few days / week or so, who don't speak the lingo, there are many better places to go in the world where less investment is required. It's not easy to find these high end garotas mentioned in some posts.

Portuguese can't be learnt in a few hours it takes some effort, it takes months of learning to speak a language at a basic level (unless you're a gifted linguist). Holiday Portuguese will not get you far in this city. I know I tried it.

If you don't speak the lingo and you don't know you're way around, you can't take the lead with taxistas because you wouldn't know better. I can give some examples e. G. One guy was pretending that he didn't know where the hotel was, put on his satnav and went via back roads. It turned out the hotel was just off Av. Paulista which every sgl taxista knows in Sao Paulo, so I paid double the standard fare. Don't trust the taxistas, that's the advice I got from the locals, who they often try to rip off too. The warnings about the areas to avoid also comes from locals I know, there is a real risk of danger. That's why most flats / houses even in the better areas are behind high fences and security entrances... check it out on google maps. You have to be vigilant, you can't let your guard down. If the Paulistas are wary, then foreigners should be twice as wary.

Brazil is a country of contrasts and interesting culture & people, but Sao Paulo is over rated IMHO. I can only speak from my own experience and want to convey it so people reading don't have unrealistic expectations, and if they decide to come then they take much time and investment in research, preparation, learning PT, understanding the costs etc so they can make the most of their time there. If they don't have the time to invest then think about easier and safer alternatives.

Well said Sui Generis.

In my post I forgot to mention what is the unique value of Brazil: VARIETY!

Albert Punter

05-18-11, 04:50

.....but I don't want to continue this dispute.
People who want to come to Sao Paulo may read the reports in this thread and decide if this destination fits their desires or not.
In addition, they can ask direct questions to "expert" members to get more detailed infos.
They are always welcome.
That's all.

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Brazil is a country of contrasts and interesting culture & people, but Sao Paulo is over rated IMHO. I can only speak from my own experience and want to convey it so people reading don't have unrealistic expectations, and if they decide to come then they take much time and investment in research, preparation, learning PT, understanding the costs etc so they can make the most of their time there. If they don't have the time to invest then think about easier and safer alternatives.

Prosal

05-18-11, 15:44

Don't trust the taxistas,Personally, I find the taxi drivers in Sao Paulo definitely much more deferent, honest and eager to do well than their counterparts in Rio.

More extensively, the service you get in Sao Paulo is usually awesome. Taxis, waiters, hotel staff, ect are in general polite, attentive and genuinely caring.

Sui Generis

05-18-11, 19:33

São Paulo is not per se a destination for hobbying.

The city is gigantic and contrary to Rio or others cities that attract tourists (either in Brazil or elsewhere in the world) there are no definite district where attractive and safe sexual activities are concentrated. For severeal years, there was Boca do Lixo or a part of Rua Augusta that could serve as a gravity center for hobbyists. But this is no more the truth. Rua Augusta is cheap (in terms of garotas and installations) and not especially safe.

This being said, I still prefer São Paulo to any other destination in the world because here I can find what I'm looking for: good restaurants, a rich cultural life, plenty of bookstores or sebo (second-hand books) where I can find and buy books that are either rare or out of print and that at a fair price. The are also good quality stores, an hectic night life where it's quite easy to meet non-pros. If you want to spend the week-end at the beach, in less than an hour, you're there (not on the hollydays: it may take up to 8 hours to complete the distance between São Paulo and Santos, a 45 minutes ride in normal time).

In terms of hobbying, I believe that São Paulo is for connaisseurs, those with a knowledge of the city, the language, the culture, those who have contacts, etc. If not, this city may be a big monster ready to swallow you.

As Prosal wrote under, people are generally polite (and honest) in São Paulo. Prosal is habitually very critical of Brazil; he wouldn't have said that if it were not the truth. (São Paulo was among the finalists of the most corteous cities of the wolrd two or three years ago).

This is still Brazil; they probably won't be ready for the Mundial and the Olympics. There are some talks concerning Morumbi stadium (selected among the stadiums to present some games in the Mundial) : it seems that the stadium is unfit and that they won't be able to make the correction before the Mundial. This is São Paulo; an « ugly beauty ».

Beach Star

05-19-11, 01:41

São Paulo is not per se a destination for hobbying.

This is still Brazil; they probably won't be ready for the Mundial and the Olympics. There are some talks concerning Morumbi stadium (selected among the stadiums to present some games in the Mundial) : it seems that the stadium is unfit and that they won't be able to make the correction before the Mundial. This is São Paulo; an « ugly beauty ».

Morumbi is not adequate for the world cup. They plan to build a new stadium in Itaquera, which will be owned by Corinthians F. C. This new stadium will host the opening game of the world cup. The venues for group games have not yet been finalised, the final will be at a heavily refurbished Maracana in Rio.

Guess Morumbi will continue to be used as it is today. Don't know what will happen to Pacaembu, the present home of Corinthians.

I know much more about mongering in Rio than Sao Paulo. I only know about football in SP!

Sui Generis

05-19-11, 02:42

I know much more about mongering in Rio than Sao Paulo. I only know about football in SP!I'm a football fan too. I'm thrilled by the actual Paulistão 2011. I used to be a Corinthians. Now I'm a fan of Santos!

Ricker

05-19-11, 19:49

São Paulo is not per se a destination for hobbying.

This being said, I still prefer São Paulo to any other destination in the world because here I can find what I'm looking for: good restaurants, a rich cultural life, plenty of bookstores or sebo (second-hand books) where I can find and buy books that are either rare or out of print and that at a fair price. The are also good quality stores, an hectic night life where it's quite easy to meet non-pros. If you want to spend the week-end at the beach, in less than an hour, you're there (not on the hollydays: it may take up to 8 hours to complete the distance between São Paulo and Santos, a 45 minutes ride in normal time).

In terms of hobbying, I believe that São Paulo is for connaisseurs, those with a knowledge of the city, the language, the culture, those who have contacts, etc. If not, this city may be a big monster ready to swallow you.

As Prosal wrote under, people are generally polite (and honest) in São Paulo. Prosal is habitually very critical of Brazil; he wouldn't have said that if it were not the truth. (São Paulo was among the finalists of the most corteous cities of the wolrd two or three years ago). I agree One Hundred percent.

Voyajer1

05-20-11, 12:27

The key to enjoying Sao Paolo or any destination in the world for that matter is research. IMHO it all depends on the person and how much time is he really willing to put forth into researching the places he's willing to go. When I started visiting Brazil, I used to have about 5 pages of maps, quotes, maps, routes for each place I was willing to give a try. Once I got a good idea of the lay of the land after a few years of travel, guess what? I still do!

Sao Paolo by itself is an amazing smorgasboard of many facets of Brazilian culture and lifestyles. From the diverse ethnic variety one finds while hobbying, to the sophisticated levels of trendy bistros, watering holes, that could satisfy any level of socioeconomic standing on this board the place could appear to be, if you don't research properly, to be either very expensive to quite inexpensive.

I just prefer the down to earth 10's I've had the priviledge of sampling for pennies on many occasions while sampling some the thousands upon thousands of Clinicas, boites, prives, and individual providers this city provides. The best value IMHO is not in the expensive clubs, it is in the prives and Clinicas, especially early when you are their first customer and the girls are either brand new at the facility (Yummy!) , and the mamasan wants you to give them that initial test drive. I've been lucky to do that about 6 times in Sao Paolo. That is as close to a guaranteed good session as you can get. No way I'm telling anyone whre this place is so don't ask.

The best thing is there are so many areas that I still have not explored yet because I've ran out of time every single time. I hope to address this on one of my future trips where I plan on spending at least one month down there.

São Paulo is not per se a destination for hobbying.

The city is gigantic and contrary to Rio or others cities that attract tourists (either in Brazil or elsewhere in the world) there are no definite district where attractive and safe sexual activities are concentrated. For severeal years, there was Boca do Lixo or a part of Rua Augusta that could serve as a gravity center for hobbyists. But this is no more the truth. Rua Augusta is cheap (in terms of garotas and installations) and not especially safe.

This being said, I still prefer São Paulo to any other destination in the world because here I can find what I'm looking for: good restaurants, a rich cultural life, plenty of bookstores or sebo (second-hand books) where I can find and buy books that are either rare or out of print and that at a fair price. The are also good quality stores, an hectic night life where it's quite easy to meet non-pros. If you want to spend the week-end at the beach, in less than an hour, you're there (not on the hollydays: it may take up to 8 hours to complete the distance between São Paulo and Santos, a 45 minutes ride in normal time).

In terms of hobbying, I believe that São Paulo is for connaisseurs, those with a knowledge of the city, the language, the culture, those who have contacts, etc. If not, this city may be a big monster ready to swallow you.

As Prosal wrote under, people are generally polite (and honest) in São Paulo. Prosal is habitually very critical of Brazil; he wouldn't have said that if it were not the truth. (São Paulo was among the finalists of the most corteous cities of the wolrd two or three years ago).

This is still Brazil; they probably won't be ready for the Mundial and the Olympics. There are some talks concerning Morumbi stadium (selected among the stadiums to present some games in the Mundial) : it seems that the stadium is unfit and that they won't be able to make the correction before the Mundial. This is São Paulo; an « ugly beauty ».

Ricker

05-20-11, 15:32

The key to enjoying Sao Paolo or any destination in the world for that matter is research.

Sao Paolo by itself is an amazing smorgasboard of many facets of Brazilian culture and lifestyles. Sounds good, but they city is Sao Paulo.

Adventur

05-23-11, 04:30

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http://www.bellasmais.com.br/

Hola Raquel,

Tu es muy hermosa, linda!

Descuplame! Yo no hablo portugues. Pero solo ingles o poquito espanol. Entiende me?

Quanto reais por tu compana? Una hora?

En ingles.

How much does it cost for your company? For an hour?

Gracias.

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Prosal

05-23-11, 09:26

As Prosal wrote under, people are generally polite (and honest) in São Paulo. Prosal is habitually very critical of Brazil; he wouldn't have said that if it were not the truth. (São Paulo was among the finalists of the most corteous cities of the wolrd two or three years ago).Indeed. I usually don't buy the pubicizing that the daydreamers promote about Brasil, but SP is for me one of the most desirable city to live in the world. Culture, nightlife, cuisine (s) , fine establishments, girls, nearby wonderful beaches, ect, all the ingredients are there to have a sophisticated and interesting life. Furthermore, to reiterate and back up your statement, service in SP is definitely the very best I've had in all my travels, bar none.

Wango

05-24-11, 01:11

Indeed. I usually don't buy the pubicizing that the daydreamers promote about Brasil, but SP is for me one of the most desirable city to live in the world. Culture, nightlife, cuisine (s) , fine establishments, girls, nearby wonderful beaches, ect, all the ingredients are there to have a sophisticated and interesting life. Furthermore, to reiterate and back up your statement, service in SP is definitely the very best I've had in all my travels, bar none.I agree with Prosal.

I have traveled to Brazil since 1999 and for me Sao Paolo is a great place for mongering as far as quantity and quality. A city with the population of 20 million people. There are new girls from the different part of Brazil arriving everyday. These are the ones that I like to catch, new to the business and are looking for fun. But it's up to you and how you connect with the girl.

The *****houses in SP, from the high end ones like Cafe Photo to the local low end sauna places, caters to Brazilians, not tourists and the locals expect good service or you won't be in business long.

Your best source is the Brazilian website GPGUIA. NET. For those who don't know Portuguese, use the google browser and update it with the automatic translate button.

Other than the hobby, SP has the best of everything in Brazil, restaurants, clubs, etc. And unlike Rio, most affluent neighborhoods don't have a favela next door.

The down side is that you need a car or the taxi fare can add up and the traffic is horrific especially when it's raining. And with the Real being what it is comparing to the Dollar, it's becoming too expensive for me.

Just my 2 cents

Sui Generis

05-24-11, 13:37

The down side is that you need a car or the taxi fare can add up and the traffic is horrific especially when it's raining. And with the Real being what it is comparing to the Dollar, it's becoming too expensive for me.

Just my 2 centsAccording to Forbes 2011, São Paulo ranks 6th (tied with Mumbai) as the city with most billionaires (21). The first rank goes to Moscow.

Taking that into consideration no wonder then that the city may look expensive. And it is. I realize that each year it is more and more expensive. To minimize costs (especially taxi fares) , I stay in an area where I have an easy access to a lot of facilities whitout spending a lot of money and wasting time in transportation.

For example, this year I found a new CLínica in Moema. The garotas are stunning, the management is perfect and you can have dupla for R$200! (R$180 if you are a poster on the GP Guia). A 25 to 30 minutes walk from where I stay while I'm in São Paulo. Perfect!

Auriflama

05-26-11, 21:19

According to Forbes 2011, São Paulo ranks 6th (tied with Mumbai) as the city with most billionaires (21). The first rank goes to Moscow.

Taking that into consideration no wonder then that the city may look expensive. And it is. I realize that each year it is more and more expensive. To minimize costs (especially taxi fares) , I stay in an area where I have an easy access to a lot of facilities whitout spending a lot of money and wasting time in transportation.

For example, this year I found a new CLínica in Moema. The garotas are stunning, the management is perfect and you can have dupla for R$200! (R$180 if you are a poster on the GP Guia). A 25 to 30 minutes walk from where I stay while I'm in São Paulo. Perfect! What areas is good to stay to minimize these costs? I was thinking about staying in liberdade is that a good area to minimize costs for transpo? Also how about renting a car? Is this ok as long as you just drive from destination A to destination B and no joy riding.

Sui Generis

05-27-11, 22:07

What areas is good to stay to minimize these costs? I was thinking about staying in liberdade is that a good area to minimize costs for transpo? Also how about renting a car? Is this ok as long as you just drive from destination A to destination B and no joy riding.Liberdade is close to Centro. If it's the location you want to spend time. It always depend on what kind of activities you wan to have:

1) freelance garotas (most of them are in Jardins or in Moema). Staying in Liberdade gives you, for example, the opportunity take the metro (subway) at São Joaquim and go to either Consolação or Trianon Masp which are not for from Jardin (several garoatas freelance are either in Jardins or Bela Vista).

2) From Liberdade (São Joaquim) your not far from Ana Rosa metro station. From that station you can easily reach a good (but not out of this sight) privê: Privê Redway. Or you can take a metro (on the blue line) from São Joaquim to Santa Cruz. From there a bus to Moema where there's an excellent CLínica: Red massagem (for me, actually, it's the best place in Sampa!).

3) If you are in Liberdade, taking the metro up to the CLínicas station (on the green line if I'm not mistaken) will bring you very close to Bomboa.

4) Another good place to stay is Jardins. You are close to most freelances garotas in Sampa.

5) Staying in Liberdade / Jardins gives you the opportunity to find restaurants that are goods and not too expensive.

6) Renting a car! No. Either you will have an accident (Brazilians drive fast) , get lost (to drive in Sampa you MUST know the city) or get jammed in the traffic (one of the worst problem in Sampa: o transito! (the traffic).

Be modest. Take busses or metros: they are good means of transportation. Try to avoid them in rush hours however. It's not like Tokyo but there's too much people transiting in the same time then. It's not pleasant.

Albert Punter

05-28-11, 02:01

An old friend of mine informed me that, besides "standard" service, she now offers fetish, domination, etc.
Just have a look at //camilafetiches dot b*l*o*g*s*p*o*t dot com
I can vouch for her "standard" service which is excellent, however I have not tried the new specialities (honestly, I am not interested).

Enjoy.

BionicMan

05-28-11, 06:27

. . . .For example, this year I found a new CLínica in Moema. The garotas are stunning, the management is perfect and you can have dupla for R$200! (R$180 if you are a poster on the GP Guia). A 25 to 30 minutes walk from where I stay while I'm in São Paulo. Perfect!. And what's the name of this clinica?

Albert Punter

05-28-11, 23:10

http://www.redmassagem.com.br/site/

. And what's the name of this clinica?

Prosal

05-29-11, 09:44

.Answers to your questionsDon't know why you bother to answer to Auriflama, it's been two years he asks over and over the same questions in the SP thread.

Sui Generis

05-29-11, 17:53

Yes, the Clínica is Red Massagem.

It's a relatively new CLínica (I think it opened in 2010) and the selection of garotas is quite good. It's located on a very quiet sector of Avenida Moema. The rooms are clean, the manager (Erica) is attentive to our needs and as I said before there's that incredible promotion: R$200 for a dupla (R$180 if you post on the GP Guia).

MurphyLove

05-30-11, 14:24

Visited SP for some business few weeks ago. Stayed there for 4 nights. First night went to Cafe Photo and was amazed by the quality of girls. Although expensive the girls are truly worth it. GFE with everyone. Tried 4 different girls from Rio, SP and other parts of brazil. It was very difficult choosing one every night as the choice was simply great.

I did check out other places for mongering listed here but ultimately photo gave the best bang for buck.

Hope you revist SP soon, can't get enough of the beautiful brazilian girls.

Pilot101

05-30-11, 21:09

So I have been reading through the reports posted on here for a few months now and have finally decided to add my recent experiences to the pool. I am brand new to the mongering scene but as Brazil is supposed to be a highlight I subscribed and read through the forum for a few weeks before leaving London.

I have been living in SP for two months now, in New Brooklin; it is nice enough, safe, has reasonably short distances to most parts of zona sul (roughly $20-$30BRL) in a taxi, but you can do it alot cheaper with good bus and rail links should one wish to. There are few bars & restaurants around, not amazing, but with a Brazilian charm all the same, however it is a ghost town Saturday and Sunday (financial district).

Yes SP is expensive but most large, financially significant cities are, I get tired of reading reports from whimpering blokes about expense and difficulty of getting around etc, for Christ's sake feller's do some research before you get on the plane! But, I'm not writing to join the ranks of the complaining and unimaginative!

For my first taste of Brazilian loving, I went to a (Boate, singles bar, strip bar, house of disrepute. I don't know what the difference is) called Cafe Gauguin on Rua Arizona. 1544. Brooklin. I hadn't seen it mentioned on here. Entrance $100BRL.

It is a nice setup really clean and new looking with a large bar, TV's and stage etc. I got there about 10pm and was told the strip show didn't start until 11pm. No drama, I sat at the bar, ordered a Bohemia and had a look around a disappointingly empty room!

There were roughly 8 guys and 4 girls standing around, not the palace of poon I had imagined. I had been sitting for 5 minutes when a large mulata (5. 0/10) appeared from no where, which would be no small feat as she was a big 'ol' girl. The flirting and the groping felt like she was going to pay me not the other way around (Not feeling comfortable at this point) she is not my style and I didn't want to offend the friendly gorilla by telling her to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off (she was actually quite sweet, just came on way to strong for me and way too heavy) She asked me to buy her a drink (Amarula, its like sweet Baileys and not nice) I agreed and we chatted in broken English for 40 mins. During this time somehow, she had recruited her friend (5. 5/10 slimmer but by no means a stunner with some balloon like fakies) and now they were both asking for drinks and were pushing for me to take the two of them.

I couldn't get any prices out of them even though I asked them several times (out of curiosity rather than desire) and they were really pushing to get me to go upstairs which I wasn't going to do without knowing how much I would be charged.

The show started at 11 and I stayed long enough to watch a very bored Asian girl do a very mechanical strip / dance and that was enough for me.

Total bill for entrance. 4 Bohemia and 7 drinks for the girls came to $578BRL (they add 10% just for paying by card too) and no sex or fun for that matter. Burn!

I don't begrudge paying as I ordered all the drinks knowing full well they were pricey, a little surprised about the credit card charge though. As I was trying to pay, the gorilla came over and started begging me to add another $100R to the cheque for her as a tip and would not quit! No chance.

So over all not a good night. However; the place looked really great, it was big and would have made a great night club so I can't help wondering if it was simply too early or the wrong night (Wed). Surely they couldn't pay the electricity bill let alone the lease on the level of trade I saw. So I'm tempted to give it another go when my Portuguese and mongering skills have been honed, and maybe ask to look around first.

Ever the optimist, I'm looking back on this as a lesson in how not to monger for the future. .

If there are any more experienced mongers out there that fancy sharing your wisdom over a beer or need an inexperienced wing man, feel free to I'm me.

Pilot101

05-30-11, 22:06

So having had an unexpectedly rough 1st experience I decided to leave the fancy clubs alone for a while and try a prive or clinica (can some one explain the difference)?

I found a list of locations, from an old post and headed out to the nearest one on foot. Rua Jaceru 177. Well, it couldn't have been any more different from Cafe Gauguin. After buzzing the rusty security door I was greeted by an average looking girl, ok figure but mangled teeth and bad skin.

I mustered up the courage to sit on one of the couches, praying I wasn't going to pick up any disease simply by sitting on the thing. Then as I had read would happen the girls came out one at a time to introduce themselves not a great standard. About 9 girls in total all between 3 and 5 out of 10.

This time however, I don't care. I'm not leaving with seeing some action.

There was no apparent management, the last girl to introduce herself asked who I would like (my Portuguese is still awful but I now can understand allot more than I can say). I take a girl named Aline. 5.0/10 at least she smiled. I have never dropped my standards soo low but I'm on a mission here!

We go up stairs of the fairly run down house and into a large bedroom with ensuite. She offered me a shower, I was reluctant as I didn't fancy putting my bare feet on the floor, but accepted all the same.

I asked simply for a BJ, and remained standing as she did not change the sheet and it was a little stained from the days use so I didn't want to touch it. Aline asked if I wanted a condom or not and I said no, she seemed to be pleased about that.

The BBBJ was AWESOME!

She was enthusiastic, eye contact, sucked on my balls the works and then CIM and swallow. Really enjoyable. It was a shame she was soo unattractive!

The grimy and seedy environment sort of added to the whole experience (I might have learnt something about myself) and for $50BRL per 1/2 hour a really cheap little adventure!

Ricker

05-30-11, 22:28

BionicMan

05-30-11, 22:36

So having had an unexpectedly rough 1st experience I decided to leave the fancy clubs alone for a while and try a prive or clinica (can some one explain the difference)? The grimy and seedy environment sort of added to the whole experience (I might have learnt something about myself) and for $50BRL per 1/2 hour a really cheap little adventure!Clinica are usually quite good establishments: facilities and girls.

One can of course not get the right chemistry, but it is rare to leave the place disappointed.

I can't comment on getting CIM in a clinica: never happened to me. OK for a BBBJ, but FJ is strictly covered.

There are plenty of indications of good clinicas in here, so you should stick to the recommednations.

I think a privè is more a brothel type of venue and the description of your visit seems to confirm a privè.

In clinica you chose gorls from a photo gallery. Receptionists are there to welcome and explain everything and guide you to the gallery room. A massage is always on the menu, it is up to you to make it short, sooner or later.

Albert Punter

06-01-11, 17:34

Can you update infos about Cafe Photo, entry fee and price for service for example?

Thanks in advance.

Visited SP for some business few weeks ago. Stayed there for 4 nights. First night went to Cafe Photo and was amazed by the quality of girls. Although expensive the girls are truly worth it. GFE with everyone. Tried 4 different girls from Rio, SP and other parts of brazil. It was very difficult choosing one every night as the choice was simply great.

I did check out other places for mongering listed here but ultimately photo gave the best bang for buck.

Hope you revist SP soon, can't get enough of the beautiful brazilian girls.

Micpas

06-01-11, 20:40

Can you update infos about Cafe Photo, entry fee and price for service for example?

Thanks in advance. Entry fee 150R, bico seco (drinks not included).

Parking 20R.

Girl between 500-600R for 3 hours. At the end of the night, or for the less attractive, may be 400.

For me, not worth the money. Better to coose other places, less expenseve and better quality.

Girl's quality not sooo good, service generally rushed, difficult to find real GFE.

The girls seem to have the feeling to know they are working in the most upscale place of Sampa.

You realize that, someone look like piranhas, unpleasant.

Of course, with exceptions depending mainly on the chemistry, if she likes you, how you treat her, how money she is thinking to earn from you later.

Pho King

06-02-11, 03:22

I have been living in SP for two months now, in New Brooklin; it is nice enough, safe, has reasonably short distances to most parts of zona sul (roughly $20-$30BRL) in a taxi, but you can do it alot cheaper with good bus and rail links should one wish to. There are few bars & restaurants around, not amazing, but with a Brazilian charm all the same, however it is a ghost town Saturday and Sunday (financial district).

Yes SP is expensive but most large, financially significant cities are, I get tired of reading reports from whimpering blokes about expense and difficulty of getting around etc, for Christ's sake feller's do some research before you get on the plane! But, I'm not writing to join the ranks of the complaining and unimaginative!

For my first taste of Brazilian loving, I went to a (Boate, singles bar, strip bar, house of disrepute. I don't know what the difference is) called Cafe Gauguin on Rua Arizona. 1544. Brooklin. I hadn't seen it mentioned on here. Entrance $100BRL. I remember going to Cafe Gauguin 3 years ago simply because it was so convenient (right across the street from my hotel). The dollar was also stronger then. I met a nice girl there that won me over with her friendly and flirty attitude. Almost GFE-like. I saw her a couple nights, with one night actually going out on the town to a karaoke bar, dance club, and back to hotel (600 Real until the morning). It was worth it back then for the experience. Good times.

I just arrived in Sao Paolo for a few nights and while I'm tempted to go back to Gauguin, the prices seem pretty crazy now. I might check out an Augusta place tomorrow or Friday night.

Gatelly

06-03-11, 14:11

Like Red Massagem, but I can't understand on the site if it's open Sunday. Do you know a clinica open Sunday?

Thanks

Albert Punter

06-03-11, 15:04

I agree with you. IMHO R 700-800 or more at the end of the night for sex is too much.
It is the never ending debate between look and service: what do you value most?
Cafe Photo girls look is among the best but is it so service?
If you think that in some cases you can get excellent service for those R 150 you pay there as entry fee.

Entry fee 150R, bico seco (drinks not included).

Parking 20R.

Girl between 500-600R for 3 hours. At the end of the night, or for the less attractive, may be 400.

For me, not worth the money. Better to coose other places, less expenseve and better quality.

Girl's quality not sooo good, service generally rushed, difficult to find real GFE.

The girls seem to have the feeling to know they are working in the most upscale place of Sampa.

You realize that, someone look like piranhas, unpleasant.

Of course, with exceptions depending mainly on the chemistry, if she likes you, how you treat her, how money she is thinking to earn from you later.

Sui Generis

06-03-11, 17:12

Like Red Massagem, but I can't understand on the site if it's open Sunday. Do you know a clinica open Sunday?

ThanksNo. Red Massagem is not open on Sunday.

Look at one of my former posts (February or March) where I list what is open on Sunday.

Micpas

06-03-11, 19:20

I agree with you. IMHO R 700-800 or more at the end of the night for sex is too much.

It is the never ending debate between look and service: what do you value most?

Cafe Photo girls look is among the best but is it so service?

If you think that in some cases you can get excellent service for those R 150 you pay there as entry fee. Just to complete your right comment, also not always the look of the girls is so beautiful.

Keep off the make up and you will see.

I would say only 20% of the girls would deserve to enter the place, now.

Yes, for me quality has downgraded a lot, but just my opinion.

I still remember the former Cafe Photo, or the WE (then WE garden) , or Bahamas. Other times, unfortunately.

In my opinion, as you say, can get more for less, and not only in terms of service, also beauty

SkinnyBop

06-10-11, 01:44

Hi there,

I was born and raised in Sao Paulo so portuguese definetely isn't a problem. Long ago I settled down in Australia and in the end of the last year I returned for good to Sao Paulo. It's been hard to readapt myself to this environment so you may say I feel the pain like you guys do when being ripped off in some ocasions.

First off. Sao Paulo is bloody expensive! My aussie dollars / bank account cry out loud everytime I go to ATM to withdraw some money. Nightlife is almost out of question because the entry fees are so freakin' expensive and at the moment I'm not working just planning my next steps. In the other hand I've been to two or three pubs as "civilian" and one of 'them I'd recomend. It's called Dublin, Itaim and I remember seeing fews english lads and they got lucky. All of them. Entry fee I reckon was R$40 (no drinks).

Mongering. I haven't had the chance yet but I do live close to Cafe Bamboa in Jardins area. As far as I know it is R$100 to get in and GDP's range from R$300/600. In my local Padaria I always bump into these WG and there are 2 or 3 stunners (8. 5-9 out 10) but they're mostly average (6-7 out 10). Has anyone been there? For this price I'd choose Cinthia Santos (brazilian porn actress) rather than an average Jane.

Some mentioned GPGuia and I second to that. It is the most reliable brazilian source, regardless of the city, to get information about the GPD's, price, location and services. They have something called "Test Drive" and you can count the thumbs up and down to make up your mind before wasting your money as well describing how the service is provided. BBBJ, anal, GFriend type, punctuality, hygine, etc. And of course reviews of Prives, Termas and Massagens.

Being a massive football fan I can tell Morumbi definetely won't take part in the World Cup. A new stadium is being build in Itaquera but of course this is Brazil and there are a lot of unanswered questions such as if it is going to be ready for the World Cup or even worse if going to be ever built. And Sui Generis you info about Sao Paulo is really good, the only reservation I'd have about you is that now you're a Santos fan "betraying" Corinthians. LOL.

I'll take you to see a Corinthians home game played in Pacaembu and this will for sure change your mind for whom you should root for.

Remember, this is Sao Paulo & Brazil. Be safe and happy.

Hobbying

06-10-11, 11:20

In SP now. There is inflation of gdp rates. Everybody's rate is up by 50-100R / hr on web listings and at boites. There is so much influx of hot money into Brasil. Investors don't realize most people here buy things on installments etc because everything is so expensive compared to average incomes.

Big Boss Man

06-13-11, 13:15

I have been in town one day and I am amazed at the prices. Last time here real to dollar was 4 to 1. Now it is 1. 50 to 1. In Sao Paulo until Sunday June 19. PM if you would be interested in meeting for a beer or dinner.

Big Boss Man

06-13-11, 23:18

Sessioned with Priscilla. 230R included oral without condom. 180R oral with condom. Good-looking girl. It was a typical clinica de massagem experience. The place is known as Belle D'jour. I did not see Catherine Deneuve in the lineup. Phone number is 3294-0174. It is near Metro Station Vila Madalena.

Big Boss Man

06-20-11, 02:21

I received an excellent strong massage from Mely. Bonus is that she speaks excellent English and is relatively intelligent. She has been to different parts of the world.

Website is http://www.massagistasaopaulo24horas.com.br/massagistas_mulheres.html

You need to call before you go. They will also do outcall. Price is steep. I think because of their location near Paulista at the Consolcao metro station, there is somewhat of a tourist tax. I paid 150R for massage with relax. I am very certain that extras are available. I did not partake.

They say that all their masseuses are certified.

Big Boss Man

06-21-11, 15:01

This is a typical clinica setup. The current name is Paulista Massegems but has had other names in the past like CLínica Caribe. Nice rooms. Lineup of about 7 girls at 3 PM on a Tuesday. I paid 180R for an hour. The girl did not not knock my socks off but she got the job done. And there were others in the lineup that I would try. The advantage of this place is that it is a five to 10 minute walk from the Metro Clinicas. Take the Teodoro exit at the metro station. I use Google maps to get my bearings.

Big Boss Man

06-21-11, 15:32

This is Sui Generis', who is much more experienced in Sao Paulo than I, favorite clinica. Website is.

http://www.redmassagem.com.br/site/.

I paid 160R for an hour. I was allowed two shots in the hour period which at my age I do not really need. Out of the lineup I happened to pick Monica who proceeded to give me the best BBBJ of my trip which is also in agreement with Sui Generis.

The difficulty of this place is getting to it if you are not staying in Moema. I got off the metro at Santa Cruz. I walked R Luis Gois which is downhill and through a pleasant neighborhood. It is about 3. 1 kilometers. Get walking directions using Google maps. Stopped to relax when I got to Moema and had a ham and cheese sandwich and a bottle of water at an outdoor cafe near the clinica. After finishing with Monica, I did not want to walk back uphill so I took a cab to Metro Santa Cruz which cost 20R for a 3 km trip. Because the streets are one way the taxi took many loops and it was driving me crazy. He actually went beyond the station and came back. I said something and he pointed one way. Reflecting later I realized that he stuck to main streets. I would not want taxis taking shortcuts through my neighborhood either. In fact we have a traffic commute problem with people taking shortcuts where I live.

Anyway I definitely recommend the place and Monica. As always your tastes and experiences may vary.

Sui Generis

06-21-11, 17:13

The difficulty of this place is getting to it if you are not staying in Moema. I got off the metro at Santa Cruz.

Anyway I definitely recommend the place and Monica. As always your tastes and experiences may vary. BBM, Puxa! I must say that it's quite a walk.

From Santa Cruz's metro station there's bus that can bring you close to Red Massagem. Unfortunately I don't remember the number of the bus line (the only thing I can tell you, it's the last bus stop near rua Loefgreen in the garage under the Santa Cruz Shopping Center / Metro station). It's the bus line desserving Moema (up to Morumbi shopping centre). You could get off at the corner of Maracatins and Avenida Moema. In a couple of years (2013/14) there will be metro stations on Ibirapuera, in Moema. They are under construction right now.

I'm glad that you had fun with Monica. I don't really remember what se looked like but I do remember quite vividly that she was a real furacão in the bed (or on the mat, I should say)

SkinnyBop

06-22-11, 21:03

BBM, Puxa! I must say that it's quite a walk.

From Santa Cruz's metro station there's bus that can bring you close to Red Massagem. Unfortunately I don't remember the number of the bus line (the only thing I can tell you, it's the last bus stop near rua Loefgreen in the garage under the Santa Cruz Shopping Center / Metro station). It's the bus line desserving Moema (up to Morumbi shopping centre). You could get off at the corner of Maracatins and Avenida Moema. In a couple of years (2013/14) there will be metro stations on Ibirapuera, in Moema. They are under construction right now. It could be 875-C10 Terminal Lapa. 476A-10 Terminal Santo Amaro or 5103-10 Moema-Term. Sacoma. I recomend the official website of Sao Paulo Transportes (SPTrans) to move from / to an address or landmark. The problem may be the language cause the website is all in Portuguese but you may use Google Chrome or other browser to translate to you if it is the case. It gives you the main line as well as alternative lines, details and timetable of it, where you should get off the bus and you can chose to reverse your itinerary seeing which bus to take on your way back home.

http://www.sptrans.com.br/itinerarios/

Viper10

06-23-11, 17:01

Sui Generis

06-23-11, 20:35

I am visiting Sao Paulo for the first time for 4 days. Anyone wanting to meet up, PM me. Couple questions if someone can help me. Since today is Corpus Christi holiday, will termas be closed? What are the 3 best termas for quality that I should go? Also in the normal club scene, does anyone know the best ones with the quantity of hottest girls? (usually the newest, trendiest clubs). Thank you guys.

Viper10Viper10,

Welcome to São Paulo.

Unfortunately I'm not in town actually.

First of all, if you're looking for termas (I. E. Rio's style venues) , just forget it because it doesn't exist as such in São Paulo. The best alternative is a clinica. As you said most clinicas will be closed today (23th). It's difficult to name (like that, out of the blue) a clinica without knowing the district, the bairro, where you'll stay while in Sampa. In all event, I can name the following clinicas which are quite good:

1) Clinica Palms (there are two locations)

1a) 530 Rua Dr. Costa Júnior (in Perdrizes)

1b) 416 Rua Gomes de Carvalho (in Vila Olimpia)

http://www.thepalms.com.br/

Both units will be open today.

2) Clinica Cherry: 2019 Rua Pascal (Campo Belo)

http://www.clinicacherry.com.br/

(Closed today)

3) Clinica Aneesh: 547 Rua Tavares Bastos (Pompéia)

http://www.aneesh.com.br/massagistas.php

There are many more. Just look at a national forum to gain, information there.

I hate clubs because I judge that it's a waste of money. The best options are: Bomboa and Cafe Photo. On one hand I still prefer clinicas and privês and on the othe rhand I also like freelance garotas. In that case you have to call an agency (a reputable one). Club Model is reliable. Who's one of the hottest garota in Sampa right now: probably Carol Pierre.

http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes-sao-paulo/component/option, com_modelos / task, perfil / I'd. 1351/

I don't know her personnaly but the comments on her are elogious.

Viper10

06-23-11, 23:51

Thank you Sui G for the info. I will start posting after I go out tonight. Does anyone know the addresses for these 2 places? Thanks.

Viper10

Sui Generis

06-24-11, 00:52

Thank you Sui G for the info. I will start posting after I go out tonight. Does anyone know the addresses for these 2 places? Thanks.

Viper10All the info are in the previous posts.

Here's a link to the Scandallo's site: http://www.scandallolounge.com.br/

SkinnyBop

06-24-11, 02:06

Thank you Sui G for the info. I will start posting after I go out tonight. Does anyone know the addresses for these 2 places? Thanks.

Viper10Not sure if we're talking about the same place. Anyway:

Garden Night Club (previously known as W Club)

Rua Alvorada. 550. Vila Olímpia.

Phone: 3845-2725/5052-1674

FrenchInSampa

06-25-11, 20:57

Hi guys,

Just came from a 2 years stay in South East Asia. Could decode the Thailand, Vietnamese, Indonesian, Singaporean places. My first week of two years in SP.

Needs some help there from the gurus to get me sorted.

1) Go-go bar.

Is there such thing in SP, I was really appreciating this in Asia when in pickup mode. Definitivelly the best way to pick a girl that really attract you and also immediatly the one who are kneen on you, the one that look at you in the eyes, rather than the one that have a cow like gazing.

I don't know if those prive I read about are like that? The thing is in Go go Bar you can just enjoy your drinks and music looking at the girl with no extras.

2) Lady Bar.

These places where mostly you get freelancers, you pay them a drink have the time to discuss and get a feel with the girl. As the girl get a commission on the drink there are unlickely to butterfly arround.

Good value where you can enjoy one girl company and prepare the best pickup.

3) Disco with regular girls. Occasional hookers.

There are also some good place in Asia where student looking for money to pay study who go to hunt foreigners. Usually the best place to get both young attractive girls and the one that would deliver the best GFE

4) Massage place.

The easy one. Massagem / clinicas. The thing in Asia is that the additional services are always offered by the girl, you don't really have to make a move. What is the usage in clinicas? Do you have to clear mark your intention for exta services / happy ending?

In Asia, in all those places the girl once they understand you are there for longtime will try to get in a GF / BF kind of relation, delvierying services free of charge pretty soon. Is there suc thing in SP?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Any wingman needed, just drop me a note. Samething if someone fancy exploring with me.

Sperto

06-26-11, 07:00

5) Ladyboys place.
Beside Thailand the reputation of Brazilian ladyboy is everywhere. Is there specific are / street in SP where they can be found?
Thanks in advance for your help. The forum rules says it's forbidden to request information about homosexuals and transvestites.

BionicMan

06-26-11, 10:09

As a first suggestion I would not recommend streetwalkers, but of course each one his own..
Read below for more comments

Hi guys,
Just came from a 2 years stay in South East Asia. Could decode the Thailand, Vietnamese, Indonesian, Singaporean places. My first week of two years in SP.
Needs some help there from the gurus to get me sorted.
1) Go-go bar.
2) Lady Bar.
3) Disco with regular girls. Occasional hookers.
4) Massage place.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Any wingman needed, just drop me a note. Samething if someone fancy exploring with me. Although I am not a resident, I can elaborate a bit.

SP offers a combination of 1+2 with places like Bamboa, Cafe Photo. They are on the expensive end (obviously you have to forget the Thai price standards in Brazil, and recently it seems prices are going up, but the girls are outstanding and nearly all provide GFE. Three holers are also quite common in the market, just ask of they are "completa". BBBJ are also quite usual.

Suggest to RTFF for prices and reports, so you can form a better idea.

I not familiar with point 3) , but whilst in cities like BKK it is easy to find girls with normal jobs ready to round up incomes with some evenings out, it is not so obvious in SP.

Those uni girls might be found in some places nearby the university residential areas, but surely some more expert mongers can elaborate.

There are some uni girls working part time and these can be found in the "escort" sites (m-class, etc. You will see the names if you RTFF) as acompanhantes.

The best source of activities are the GdP, gators de programs (there are two specific nationwide forums in brazil where you will learn all about them.

In my opinion they are some of the best providers, lots of GFE, dupla also an easy option. Hot girls enjoying sex, completa and sometime, once they know you they go the extra mile.

Reasonably priced for the 90' set (they are not much clock watchers).

They either work in their own apartments or meet you at some motels. The motels are many and the best options if you live downtown are Lido and Metropolis. Girls are often there and can suggest the type of room more suitable (I once got a very large suite with a huge bed, double shower for 4, and jacuzzi for 6: we were two guys and 3 girls!) motel prices are reasonable and very clean.

Clinica, a Brazilian type of oilies. RTFF to get information as there are so many in all areas. You chose the girl from photos, unless you already have one in mind. You can expect FS as normal. Often you pay the extra in cash (only) to the girl and the room to the reception (credit cards accepted). Level of service can vary but surely you will not be disappointed. 3-holers are not the norm. BBBJ is in 90% of cases.

Mostly closed on Sunday, whilst on Saturday they have an early closing time at 7. 30pm (9. 30 working days).

GdP are more flexible on times and days.

Not easy but a private connection can be done with a massagista for home service. But as they work long hours, they might come to your place at 11pm after a full day of work: not the best option.

On the last question ISG rules impose a ban on the information, but the web is not limited.

Now we wait for your first reports: those from the residents are always the best

Albert Punter

06-26-11, 16:18

... GdP, gators de programs ...

I like your typing error, surely involuntary.
Correct spelling is "garota de programa".
Sometimes they are real gators but in sex.

Let me add some notes to reply to FrenchInSampa:
1 + 2 Besides Cafe Photo and Bomboa you can find less expensive places, like Kilt for example, just look in this thread or other websites for "boate"
3 No idea, sorry. However, many univ students work as escorts. When I ask them what do you do in life, maybe 90% replies "vou na facultade" (I go to university)
4 Look for clinicas. Maybe some are open on Sundays. I believe Sui Generis reported in the past.
5 Shame!

Prices are more expensive than in South East Asia.
However here you may find really passionare girls and, most important, variety, which I missed when I travelled in Far/South East Asia.

BionicMan

06-26-11, 17:53

I like your typing error, surely involuntary.

Correct spelling is "garota de programa".

Sometimes they are real gators but in sex. LOL, indeed was involuntary. Writing from an I-pod, sometime it forces words in that I do not see and then funny words, if ever intelligible, come out.

At lest in this case it was nearly understandable and it had a special view of the "girls".

Albert Punter

06-27-11, 01:13

...as posted in a local forum

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Hobbying

06-28-11, 01:46

Anybody ever use Josi Producoes Eventos?

AtlantaFox

06-28-11, 12:27

Ricker

06-29-11, 15:07

I will be in Sao Paolo overnight next week staying at the Intercontinental. Which would be the best club to go that is fairly close to the hotel and where I do not need to take someone back to the hotel. Not looking to spend the crazy amounts at La Bomboa but also not looking for the cheapest place. I am looking for hot women and somewhere I can get some action within the club. Just a BBBJ would be OK.Your hotel is near Augusta. Take a walk down to the boate Casarao, about 2 blocks past the gas station on the right, best after 11pm. Cost 10R to enter, comes with 2 beers or 1 drink. Plenty of cute garotas, in-house service, tell them you want to pay total, including the room 130R, pay no more than 150R total, easily negotiated.

You'll have fun.

JimMorison

06-30-11, 08:41

Redway has expanded. Vanie has opened up "Funy Sexy" (Vanie wrote it out for me but I am not 100% sure of her spelling. She says that there is a website too)

At R. Loefgreen. 934. Vila Mariana.

São Paulo. 04040-000, Brazil.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

Get off at Santa Cruz and walk one block through a safe neighborhood.

Redway is still operational and will continue to be.

All at Funy Sex is new, fresh paint. 5 rooms on premises. The girls greet you in the lounge as you enter the building proper. There are 6 couches in this area. It makes it very easy to see the girls and make your choice.

Enjoy.

Sui Generis

06-30-11, 19:28

Redway has expanded. Vanie has opened up "Funy Sexy" (Vanie wrote it out for me but I am not 100% sure of her spelling. She says that there is a website too)

At R. Loefgreen. 934. Vila Mariana.

São Paulo. 04040-000, Brazil.

Enjoy.

The new site is not yet on the air.

http://www.fanisex.com.br/

The Redway is close to Santa Rosa metro station while the new premisse is near Santa Cruz metro station (not too far from the Lasar Segall museum for the art buffs among you).

The grand opening was Monday (June 27th 2011). For those who are familiar with the Redway, it's Bebel (or Rafaela) who is the manager of the new venue. Bebel is the girl that was working so many years at Redway (mahogany hair, big boobs, a lot of tattoes). She is a nice person.

Prices:

R$ 80, 00 half an hour.

R$ 100, 00 an hour.

- Schedule:

Monday to Friday:

11Hs to 22 Hs.

Saturday:

12Hs to 21Hs

JimMorison

07-02-11, 11:20

Sui Generis,

Redway is now open on Sunday. Will Fanisex be open on Sunday too?

QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1171608]The new site is not yet on the air.

http://www.fanisex.com.br/

The Redway is close to Santa Rosa metro station while the new premisse is near Santa Cruz metro station (not too far from the Lasar Segall museum for the art buffs among you).

The grand opening was Monday (June 27th 2011). For those who are familiar with the Redway, it's Bebel (or Rafaela) who is the manager of the new venue. Bebel is the girl that was working so many years at Redway (mahogany hair, big boobs, a lot of tattoes). She is a nice person.

Prices:

R$ 80, 00 half an hour.

R$ 100, 00 an hour.

- Schedule:

Monday to Friday:

11Hs to 22 Hs.

Saturday:

12Hs to 21Hs[/QUOTE]

Sui Generis

07-02-11, 21:12

Sui Generis,

Redway is now open on Sunday.

]I'm not in São Paulo currently. Thanks for the info. I was not aware of the new schedule. As you can see on their new site, the schedule is from Monday to Monday. Note also that it is open untill 02ham.

http://www.redway.com.br/inicio.php

Concerning Fanisex, according to the site it's closed on Sunday.

JimMorison

07-03-11, 10:59

What does Monday to Monday mean in Brazil?

In North America, I would take it to mean. Open all days of the week.

]I'm not in São Paulo currently. Thanks for the info. I was not aware of the new schedule. As you can see on their new site, the schedule is from Monday to Monday. Note also that it is open untill 02ham.

http://www.redway.com.br/inicio.php

Concerning Fanisex, according to the site it's closed on Sunday.

SkinnyBop

07-04-11, 04:18

What does Monday to Monday mean in Brazil?

In North America, I would take it to mean. Open all days of the week.Open all days of the week.

Almotu

07-05-11, 05:21

http://clinicatokio.com.br/index.htm

This place is very close to the Metro station. Next to a car repair garage. I visited this place this past April and had a great session plus it is a good option to have for a Sunday.

Almotu

07-05-11, 21:13

Stumbled onto this. I think this is up your alley?

http://www.groupon.com.br/ofertas/sao-paulo---premium/buddha-bar/504351

TandAforever

07-08-11, 18:32

Part 3 – Sao Paulo (See ISG Florianopolis section for part 2 and ISG Porto Allegre section for part 1 of my Brazil Report)

I got to Sao Paulo and checked into my hotel. I stayed at this hotel.

http://www.mercure.com/gb/hotel-3538-mercure-sao-paulo-moema/index.shtml

It was roughly 150 BRL / night. Warning: you have to pay for internet separately at this hotel. Other than the extra-cost internet, the hotel was adequate.

I came to Brazil to see the beauty of the country and to do Brazilian girls. So far the "do girls" part had eluded me, mostly because of the high prices that I had experienced. I refuse to pay high prices. I don't care if the girl is the best looking girl in the world. I won't pay a high price, especially if the price is higher than the locals have to pay.

I knew I had to try something different than go to the mainstream tourist clubs. Unlike Florianopolis, Sao Paulo is a huge sprawling city and not a Bay Watch type resort town. I was not constrained to tourist trap clubs.

I adjusted my game plan. The first night I hailed a taxi off the street and tried out my low-level Portuguese. I asked the driver,"Garotas de programa?" The driver nodded his head affirmatively. I got in the taxi. The ride was about 15 minutes and cost around 30 BRL.

The taxi driver dropped me off in front of a clinica. The name was Pyramid Clinica. I sat in a waiting room and five different girls came and shook my hand. Quite frankly, there was only one that I liked. She was a petite brunette with an adorable face and lovely olive skin. She did not speak English but fortunately one of the other girls did speak some English and offered to translate. The price was 110 BRL for one hour. What a far better offer than what I had found in Porto Allegre or Florianopolis. I accepted her offer and went to a back room which was small but clean. I took a quick shower. She immediately went to work on me with a BBBJ. The BBBJ was great. I did her doggie and then she rode me for about 15 minutes straight. This girl was filled with energy and fun. I finished in about 45 minutes. I tried some conversation but the language barrier was hopeless. I left the clinica completely satisfied.

The next night I tried the same tactic. I hailed a taxi off the street and asked "Garotas de programa?" This time I ended up at this high-end club.

http://www.kiltshows.com.br

Entrance was 50 BRL. The club was basically a high-end strip club with girls offering services. I got two offers: one for 250 BRL and the other for 300 BRL. After having such a great experience the night before, I turned both offers down. I stayed at the club and enjoyed the shows. There were regular strip tease shows and go-go girls. Because the entry fee was not too expensive, this would be a great place to come with friends. I left after a couple of hours.

The next day I did some research and found.

http://www.clinicaallure.com.br/

I went in the early evening. The selection was seven girls. All the girls were too big for me and none of them spoke English, but the place was nice. I was quoted a price of 130 BRL for an hour. Not a bad price if the girl is very good looking and offers good service. I would imagine this place could be better on a different day with a different selection of girls and there was a way to translate.

Considering I got one great night out of three in Sao Paulo compared to nothing in Porto Allegre and Florianopolis, I called it a day and left early so I would be rested for my trip to Rio the next day.

My feeling is that Sao Paulo, because it is so big, has enormous potential. One needs more time to get the place mapped out. I got lucky the first night because the taxi driver was knowledgeable and I found one girl for a good price. The other two nights I did not find anything. With time and knowledge Sao Paulo could be a good playground.

Almotu

07-08-11, 20:40

Sui Generis

07-08-11, 21:54

Around where you were staying in Moema, there are several clinicas that you could have visited without paying the 40-50R round trip cab fare.I concord. You were at a walking distance from Privê Eucaliptos (which is open untill 06am) and Red Massagem (on the other side of Ibirapuera). On the other hand. Maybe you were unaware of that. But there are a lot of GDP working freelance in Moema (especially on Rouxinol, Tuim, Pintasilgo, Macuco, etc.). Next time, you'll know. Some of them do speak English.

Lavandisca is a quiet street with several good restaurants and bars. The only time it's buzy it's Sunday morning when there's a open air market on the street (early on the morning untill mid afternoon). Nex time you rent a room in the same hotel you mus know that there's a bus stop (onibus parada) real close, on the corner of Lavandisca and Macuco: this bus goes to the Santa Cruz subway station.

TandAforever

07-09-11, 16:49

Maybe you were unaware of that.Yes, unaware. The night turned out very good. I was lucky.

TandAforever

07-09-11, 17:02

Appreciate your honest newbie report but why didn't you read this thread before you asked taxi drivers where the action is?

Don't use this tactic in Rio, please. You will most likely be dropped off at some rip-off joint where the taxi driver will earn a commission for bringing you there.

Do your homework by reading Bubba's guide and remember these names of termas. L'oumo. 4x4 and Monte Carlo. As a newbie, these would be a good start.

Around where you were staying in Moema, there are several clinicas that you could have visited without paying the 40-50R round trip cab fare.I didn't know about this thread. Strange, but the international sex guide does not come up on many Google searches.

The night turned out great minus the taxi fair. Who knows if I would have found a girl at the other clinicas.

I have already finished the Rio part of my trip. I will post the results as soon as I write them up. Maybe sometime today.

Thanks for the advice. If I go mongering in the future, I will research here first.

Johnnysim2000

07-09-11, 17:03

Sui Generis

07-11-11, 03:29

Hi all, Staying the Hyatt this week and was wondering if anybody could recommend a good place to go to for FS? Nothing kinky or special, just want to do a Brazilian woman in Sao Paulo and don't want to take a taxi very far.

Please let me know if you have a chance. Thank you!I have something for you. Your hotel- quite a good one by the way. Is very close to the Morumbi Shopping Center. From your hotel. Which is located on Avenida das Naçoes Unidas- walk against the traffic (which is one way or a contra mão going north) I. E. Go south untill the Morumbi Shopping Center (you cannot miss it). At the shopping center take Avenida Roque Petroni untill you reach Rua Chafik Maluf. On that street there is a privê which is good:

Espaço Morumbi 101 Rua Chafic Maluf.

Phone: (11) 5041-5128.

(Most garotas are 7/10 but sometimes there are 8/10 or 8. 5/10. 9/10.) If you want a PSE experience try Jasmine. Unforgettable. A mulatta clara with 19 tattoes.

I can also suggest a good churrascaria with a good selection of different dishes (pasta, fish, salads, desserts). On the same street: Avenida Roque Petroni. It's called churrascaria Morumbi: http://www.morumbigrill.com.br/

Genghis Khan

07-11-11, 11:20

Stumbled onto this. I think this is up your alley?

http://www.groupon.com.br/ofertas/sao-paulo---premium/buddha-bar/504351Thanks Almotu,

I have been there a couple of years ago when it was really good. The chef back then was Bel Coelho. She is now in her own restaurant called Dui (which is excellent by the way). Buddha Bar is now just a bleak copy of what it once was.

GK

Genghis Khan

07-11-11, 11:26

Not sure if we're talking about the same place. Anyway:

Garden Night Club (previously known as W Club)

Rua Alvorada. 550. Vila Olímpia.

Phone: 3845-2725/5052-1674From what I understand W Garden (which was the last name) is now closed. If anyone should find out otherwise, please don't hesitate to put the current status up on this board.

GK

Davis150

07-11-11, 12:17

Anyone know of places where the non-pros (and I use that term loosely) hang out by day in SP that are not termas or boites? Thanks.

Sui Generis

07-11-11, 13:28

Anyone know of places where the non-pros (and I use that term loosely) hang out by day in SP that are not termas or boites? Thanks.I once wrote a post on this subject. The best place to meet non-pros in Sampa is along the Avenida Paulista, just after the office hours, when women go to the numerous HH. You can find the same thing in many HH in Moema, Vila Olimpa, Vila Madalena, Pinheiros.

If you speak the language you can meet women almost anywhere in São Paulo. I once met a non-pro in a sebo (second-hand bookstore).

Auriflama

07-13-11, 14:28

I once wrote a post on this subject. The best place to meet non-pros in Sampa is along the Avenida Paulista, just after the office hours, when women go to the numerous HH. You can find the same thing in many HH in Moema, Vila Olimpa, Vila Madalena, Pinheiros.

If you speak the language you can meet women almost anywhere in São Paulo. I once met a non-pro in a sebo (second-hand bookstore).What is HH?

Johnnysim2000

07-13-11, 23:51

I have something for you. Your hotel- quite a good one by the way. Is very close to the Morumbi Shopping Center. From your hotel. Which is located on Avenida das Naçoes Unidas- walk against the traffic (which is one way or a contra mão going north) I. E. Go south untill the Morumbi Shopping Center (you cannot miss it). At the shopping center take Avenida Roque Petroni untill you reach Rua Chafik Maluf. On that street there is a privê which is good:

Espaço Morumbi 101 Rua Chafic Maluf.

Phone: (11) 5041-5128.

(Most garotas are 7/10 but there are 8/10 or 8. 5/10. 9/10.) If you want a PSE experience try Jasmine. Unforgettable. A mulatta clara with 19 tattoes.

I can also suggest a good churrascaria with a good selection of different dishes (pasta, fish, salads, desserts). On the same street: Avenida Roque Petroni. It's called churrascaria Morumbi:

http://www.morumbigrill.com.br/Dear Sui, thanks for your e-mail and recommendation. I found Espaco Morumbi but it was closed. It was around 5:00 pm today. No cars in parking lot and nobody answered the buzzer.

Any other recommendations within walking distance? Thanks!

Sui Generis

07-14-11, 04:06

What is HH?Simply Happy Hours

Yapeyu

07-14-11, 11:13

Hi guys, I will visit SP in few weeks, I will stay in Hotel Park Inn Radisson, Ibirapuera. Any information about action around this area?

Thank you.

Sui Generis

07-14-11, 14:22

Hi guys, I will visit SP in few weeks, I will stay in Hotel Park Inn Radisson, Ibirapuera. Any information about action around this area?

Thank you.Welcome Yapeyu.

Here's a map of your hotel and, by the same token, your district: Moema.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=fr&q=Hotel%20Park%20Inn%20Radisson%2C%20Ibirapuera&rlz=1R2ADRA_frCA422&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=3211l3211l0l4347l1l1l0l0l0l0l212l212l2-1l1&bav=on. 2, or. R_gc. R_pw. &biw=1366&bih=615&wrapid=tlif131064605159811&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl.

You hotel is located on the Avenida Ibirapuera and your close to everything.

TRANSPORTATION.

1a) If you want to go downtown you can either take a bus on the avenida Ibirapuera on the huge "parada" which is located in front of Praça Nossa Senhora Aparecida (where there is a big white church). Take busses where it is written Praça the Sé and you will be dowtown, in the historic hub of the city, in a few minutes (when it's not the rush hours!).

1b) If you want to take the metro go to the corner of Ibirapuera and Lavandisca (just besides Praça das Pombos). The bus will take you to Santa Cruz metro station. This is the blue line: if you want to go downton take the direction towards Tucuruvi (North part of the Town).

1c) You can also take a bus on the corner of Ibirapuera and Rouxinol. The bus goes to the Ana Rosa metro station (ibid: blue line direction Tucuruvi).

1d) If you want to take a taxi there are many paradas in the district. (I am aware that there is one on the corner of Jamaris and Ibirapuera, nera the Mercure hotel). You can also ask a clerk at your hotel to call a taxi for you.

HOBBYING.

2a) If you take a look on the map, you'll notice that besides the Praça Nossa Senhora Aparecida there's the Avenida Moema. Walk up to number 841 (it is on the north side of the street). This is a very quiet bairro with luxurious condos. Don't be afraid to walk on that street (or in Moema). According to me, Red Massagen is actually one of the best spot in São Paulo.

http://www.redmassagem.com.br/site/

The manager, Erica is a gem. My suggestions: Mel (a garota with a very light complexion. She's of Ukranian / Polish descent. Black hair and blue eyes) or Monica (a tall brunette with a nice pair of rack. Her service is A-1!)

R$90 for 1/2h.

R$150 for 1h.

(There are promotions for the GP Guia foristas but that doesn't apply to you or most of the reader of this thread).

2b) If you are a little bit adventurous, there is a privê on Eucaliptos (just in front of the Ibirapuera Shopping Center). It's on located at 657 Avenida dos Eucaliptos. The "plantel" (staff) is less interesting than Red Massagem (basically this is the main difference between a CLínica (Red Massagem) and a privê (Eucaliptos). The main advantage of Eucaliptos is the following one: it's open almost all day long (it closes at 06am).

R$60 for 1/2h.

R$120 for 1h.

Not the best option, but for a quickie it's okay.

2c) Not too far from your hotel there's a nice privê near the Santa Cruz metro station. It's a new privê and the manager is Bebel. (You can either take a taxi or a bus to go there: See 1b.

It's called Fanysex: http://www.fanisex.com.br/#

934 Rua Loefgreen in Vila Mariana.

R$60 1/2.

R$100 1h.

Sometimes there are gems working there.

2d) Take a cab or a bus (see 1c) and visit the Red Way. This is a privê near the Ana Rosa metro station.

It's located at 449 Rua Machado de Assis.

http://www.redway.com.br/

2e) There are several swing clubs near your hotel. If you need info PM me.

NON-PRO.

3a) There's a fine bar where you can pick up non-pros especially between 05 and 08pm (happy hours).

It's called Estalagem and it's located on the corner of Avenida Moema and Irãe (see the map).

3b) Shopping Ibirapuera is also a good place to mett non-pro (I'm damn serious!)

EATING OUT.

Go an Lavandisca there are an array of restraurants and bars. Moema is on of the best place to dine out.

Johnnysim2000

07-14-11, 22:02

[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1176390]Welcome Yapeyu.

2a) If you take a look on the map, you'll notice that besides the Praça Nossa Senhora Aparecida there's the Avenida Moema. Walk up to number 841 (it is on the north side of the street). This is a very quiet bairro with luxurious condos. Don't be afraid to walk on that street (or in Moema). According to me, Red Massagen is actually one of the best spot in São Paulo.

http://www.redmassagem.com.br/site/

The manager, Erica is a gem. My suggestions: Mel (a garota with a very light complexion. She's of Ukranian / Polish descent. Black hair and blue eyes) or Monica (a tall brunette with a nice pair of rack. Her service is A-1!)

R$90 for 1/2h.

R$150 for 1h.

(There are promotions for the GP Guia foristas but that doesn't apply to you or most of the reader of this thread).

Dear Sui Generis, I went to Red Massagem today around 11:45 am and they were closed. The receptionist was quite abrupt and I didn't speak any portuguese so I am assuming they don't want foreigners.

Yapeyu

07-15-11, 08:38

Thank you very much Sui Generis, I will follow your advice, I have time to explore the are and I will let you know.

Can you re-send the link to the map, because is not working well.

Are you from Brazil?

Let's be in touch and may be we can do something in Sau Paulo.

Regards,

Welcome Yapeyu.

Here's a map of your hotel and, by the same token, your district: Moema.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=fr&q=Hotel

%20Park%20Inn%20Radisson%2C%20Ibirapuera&rlz=1R2ADRA_frCA422&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=3211l3211l0l4347l1l1l0l0l0l0l212l212l2-1l1&bav=on. 2, or. R_gc. R_pw. &biw=1366&bih=615&wrapid=tlif131064605159811&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl.

You hotel is located on the Avenida Ibirapuera and your close to everything.

TRANSPORTATION.

1a) If you want to go downtown you can either take a bus on the avenida Ibirapuera on the huge "parada" which is located in front of Praça Nossa Senhora Aparecida (where there is a big white church). Take busses where it is written Praça the Sé and you will be dowtown, in the historic hub of the city, in a few minutes (when it's not the rush hours!).

1b) If you want to take the metro go to the corner of Ibirapuera and Lavandisca (just besides Praça das Pombos). The bus will take you to Santa Cruz metro station. This is the blue line: if you want to go downton take the direction towards Tucuruvi (North part of the Town).

1c) You can also take a bus on the corner of Ibirapuera and Rouxinol. The bus goes to the Ana Rosa metro station (ibid: blue line direction Tucuruvi).

1d) If you want to take a taxi there are many paradas in the district. (I am aware that there is one on the corner of Jamaris and Ibirapuera, nera the Mercure hotel). You can also ask a clerk at your hotel to call a taxi for you.

HOBBYING.

2a) If you take a look on the map, you'll notice that besides the Praça Nossa Senhora Aparecida there's the Avenida Moema. Walk up to number 841 (it is on the north side of the street). This is a very quiet bairro with luxurious condos. Don't be afraid to walk on that street (or in Moema). According to me, Red Massagen is actually one of the best spot in São Paulo.

http://www.redmassagem.com.br/site/

The manager, Erica is a gem. My suggestions: Mel (a garota with a very light complexion. She's of Ukranian / Polish descent. Black hair and blue eyes) or Monica (a tall brunette with a nice pair of rack. Her service is A-1!)

R$90 for 1/2h.

R$150 for 1h.

(There are promotions for the GP Guia foristas but that doesn't apply to you or most of the reader of this thread).

2b) If you are a little bit adventurous, there is a privê on Eucaliptos (just in front of the Ibirapuera Shopping Center). It's on located at 657 Avenida dos Eucaliptos. The "plantel" (staff) is less interesting than Red Massagem (basically this is the main difference between a CLínica (Red Massagem) and a privê (Eucaliptos). The main advantage of Eucaliptos is the following one: it's open almost all day long (it closes at 06am).

R$60 for 1/2h.

R$120 for 1h.

Not the best option, but for a quickie it's okay.

2c) Not too far from your hotel there's a nice privê near the Santa Cruz metro station. It's a new privê and the manager is Bebel. (You can either take a taxi or a bus to go there: See 1b.

It's called Fanysex:

http://www.fanisex.com.br/#

934 Rua Loefgreen in Vila Mariana.

R$60 1/2.

R$100 1h.

Sometimes there are gems working there.

2d) Take a cab or a bus (see 1c) and visit the Red Way. This is a privê near the Ana Rosa metro station.

It's located at 449 Rua Machado de Assis.

http://www.redway.com.br/

2e) There are several swing clubs near your hotel. If you need info PM me.

NON-PRO.

3a) There's a fine bar where you can pick up non-pros especially between 05 and 08pm (happy hours).

It's called Estalagem and it's located on the corner of Avenida Moema and Irãe (see the map).

3b) Shopping Ibirapuera is also a good place to mett non-pro (I'm damn serious!)

EATING OUT.

Go an Lavandisca there are an array of restraurants and bars. Moema is on of the best place to dine out.

Sui Generis

07-18-11, 02:38

Can you re-send the link to the map, because is not working well.

Are you from Brazil?

, The link: just go on Google search (map) and type the adress of your hotel. You will have a map of the viccinity of your hotel. You can also ask at your hotel a map of São Paulo. It a small monthly booklet with a lot of information (sorry I don't remember the name of the magazine) small maps of some district (centro, jardins, Moema, among others) and a couple of garota's ads.

You can slo buy a large street directory in a banca (newstand). There is one located at Praça das Pombos and one in the Praça Nossa Senhora Aparecida. It costs something like R$16 if I'm not mistaken.

I'm not Brazilian but a proud French Canadian Pea Soup from Montreal.

Yapeyu

07-18-11, 08:39

Hi Sui Generis,

Thank you for your help.

Yapeyu98.

The link: just go on Google search (map) and type the adress of your hotel. You will have a map of the viccinity of your hotel. You can also ask at your hotel a map of São Paulo. It a small monthly booklet with a lot of information (sorry I don't remember the name of the magazine) small maps of some district (centro, jardins, Moema, among others) and a couple of garota's ads.

You can slo buy a large street directory in a banca (newstand). There is one located at Praça das Pombos and one in the Praça Nossa Senhora Aparecida. It costs something like R$16 if I'm not mistaken.

I'm not Brazilian but a proud French Canadian Pea Soup from Montreal.

Hobbying

07-20-11, 12:03

From what I understand W Garden (which was the last name) is now closed. If anyone should find out otherwise, please don't hesitate to put the current status up on this board.

GKYes its closed with police blocks out front. I don't know what happened but that place was under investigation last year when a girl od in one of their rooms. This was told to me by a girl who use to work there.

Sui Generis

07-25-11, 02:04

SkinnyBop

07-25-11, 06:31

Moema.

Non-pro. If you're into Rock these places are worth to check:

http://www.rhinopub.com.br/site/

http://www.wildhorsemusicbar.com.br/

Eating-out. There's a great Japanese, all you can eat, near Igreja de Moema as well as a food court in Ibirapuera Shopping Center.

Prosal

07-25-11, 09:23

Moema.

Non-pro. If you're into Rock these places are worth to check:

http://www.rhinopub.com.br/site/Some 10€ for a bottled beer in a mid-level venue isn't cheap. Moscow is cheaper.

Brasil is pricing itself out of the market.

SkinnyBop

07-25-11, 18:23

Some 10€ for a bottled beer in a mid-level venue isn't cheap. Moscow is cheaper.

Brasil is pricing itself out of the market.Tax + tax + tax = Brazil.

Two weeks ago I drove a friend of mine to Guarulhos Airport and had McDonalds for Dinner. I hadn't been there for ages and I was shocked!

Numero 1 (big mac meal) + sundae = R$25,00.

Bobo5

07-27-11, 13:39

Watch out guys.

Melià is now charging 220BRL to let gdps in!

First time ever!

A real rip-off!

Bb5

Gregorian

07-28-11, 10:24

Thank you thishelps.

Watch out guys.

Melià is now charging 220BRL to let gdps in!

First time ever!

A real rip-off!

Bb5

Timeoff

08-01-11, 07:23

I'm not a frequent visitor of Cafe Photo. However, I had some friends visiting from the States so I decided to give them a tastes of SP by taking them to Cafe Photo.

After we got our table, we started off by ordering a bottle of JW Blue and invited some ladies hanging around our table. One blonde attractive girl came around me like I'm a her old friend. Then, she took out a cigarette and asked for a light. In Japaness. To my surprise, her Japaness was perfect. I asked her where she learned Japanese. She tells me she had a Japanes sugardaddy for the past 2 years who came to SP every few months for a business trip. Everytime he came to town he spend enough money to main her life style for the next 6 months. I have a feeling that he is dropping about 10K-20K to her each time he comes to SP. Evidently, she lost her suggardaddy and she is looking for another suggardaddy. This is hard act to follow. Has anyone experience anything like this?

Killerjoy

08-01-11, 12:07

Hello, friends.

I am visiting sao paulo for amonth and would like to try my luck in mongering here.

I am staying far from city near sao bernardo do campo.

I know there cannot much happening here but just want to know nearest places from these.

Also I don't have too big budget hence cannot afford big clubs.

Plus I speak english and no porto.

Please guide me with good cotacts of clinicas or prives or independant contacts who are economical.

It would be great if someone can join me for fun time.

I can travel to the city also but I depend on buses or local train.

I have tried partytreff and fkk in germany. Is there anything similar here

SkinnyBop

08-01-11, 17:48

Hello, friends.

I am visiting sao paulo for amonth and would like to try my luck in mongering here.

I am staying far from city near sao bernardo do campo.I haven't been there for more than 5 years but Bacco's used to be nice a mid-range place.

http://www.apontador.com.br/local/sp/sao_bernardo_do_campo/teatro_e_cultura/7M22K49T/bacos_sauna_night_club_ltda.html

At GPGuia. Net, the brazilian version of ISG, they're talking about a newly opened small Prive at Rua Crisantemos. 189 Bairro Assunção SBC. 2822-7920. It seems Dany's a good option as well as Rayca. Prices ranging from R$50 (30 minutes) , R$100 (one hour) + R$30 for anal to R$200 / hour (3some).

Hobbying

08-02-11, 12:05

Almotu

08-05-11, 01:20

Sui Generis or G. K, can you help with information on any good vegan or vegetarian restaurants in Jardins or Moema?

Sui Generis

08-05-11, 01:33

Sui Generis or G. K, can you help with information on any good vegan or vegetarian restaurants in Jardins or Moema?I am aware of a vegetarian restaurant on 1339 Gaivota in Moema.

The name of the restaurant is Cachoeira Tropical.

There are also two locations of a vegetarian restaurant whic is quite godd: Moema natural.

A) 1456, Al. Do Arapanés.

Be) 1332 Al. Jauaperi.

http://www.moemanatural.com.br/

I went to these three locations and I can vouch for them.

Here's a link with a list of 40 vegetarian restaurants in São Paulo:

http://www.vegetarianos.com.br/listasaopaulo.html

AtlantaFox

08-06-11, 22:04

Your hotel is near Augusta. Take a walk down to the boate Casarao, about 2 blocks past the gas station on the right, best after 11pm. Cost 10R to enter, comes with 2 beers or 1 drink. Plenty of cute garotas, in-house service, tell them you want to pay total, including the room 130R, pay no more than 150R total, easily negotiated.

You'll have fun.I was in Sao Paolo and asked a taxi driver to take me to Casarao or Kilt he didn't know either. I am going back in a couple of weeks and staying at the Renaissance. Is this far from the boate Casarao. I was concerned about walking a few blocks. Is is safe at night? Are you still recommending this place and if so do you have the address? I did go to Cafe Photo one night which was outstanding but the whole night including take out cost around $500 which is absolutely crazy. Can't afford that again!

Killerjoy

08-07-11, 01:28

After searching up many sites and going thru some posts, finally I decided to Visit a clinica today.

Its called Ali baba and is on Rua Baltico (close to my office in Brasil ).

But it was very difficult to identify the building since there was no name written outside and just house no.

Unfortunately I had not taken note of the house no and I was wandering outside the house. But I noticed a security camera outside.

And thought this house was not normal and only then the lady manager opened the door and was kissing some mid aged man.

I waited for a while till that man left and knocked the door again. She welcomed and asked me to sit.

She asked something and I could not understand. Then I asked her price and she explained 40 R for 20 mins. 60 R for 30 mins and.

100 R for 1 hour. She said she will present the girls.

First came a lady with nice round ass, but face was so ugly and she had braces for teeth and they looked back.

Second came a lady who was very tall with nice structure but she dint have a smiling face and her looks was not friendly.

Third came sun (I can't get her name but it means sun) she was slim with small titties and great ass, nice blond color body.

Next came nicole, must be a brunette and was on a higher side in weight.

Since I had read reviews about sun, opted for her for 30 mins.

Went up and we both showered together, I absolutely did not understand any porto and she could not understand any english.

We just managed to speak to gestures and touch and tell. WE played with each others body and parts and then came to the room.

She asked me whether I want to have it down or on the sofa, I laid down on the massage bed (Very narrower than single bed).

She sucked me and I said I want to do a 69, Enjoyed it for 5 mins and for the first time in my life I licked a girls ass. She was clean and neat and.

I liked it too. Then she came on my CG style which I cannot allow for moretime since in this position I climax early.

Then I asked for doggie, which was good fun, she was enjoying it and I was loving the view too. Kissed her ass, grabbed her small titties and had fun rubbing her clit during the play.

Then finished in Mish by which time she had come in good mood for her climax too. She wiped my johny clean and we both cleaned ourselves and some fondling in the shower again.

We were talking in general about my visit and office and stuff. Since there was still sometime left she asked me if I liked a massage I said yes and she gave a good massage.

I was very happy at this first experience and she was very friendly and caring towards the customer, finally kissed her good bye and left the place.

Looks : 7/10.

Body : 8/10.

Attitude : 10/10.

Service: 10/10 (BBBJ, DFK. 69, GFE)

WIR : Yes for sure

SkinnyBop

08-07-11, 06:19

Sun=Sol. There's also a mexican beer with the same name.

Voyajer1

08-07-11, 14:10

Just ask a driver to take you to Rua Augusta; everybody should know where that is. There is a line of bars including Casarao right along that area if you put Avenida Paulista on your back and walk away from it. If you keep walking straight on Rua Augusta you will notice it changes names to Rua Martin Fontes, once you see this go left and then you should be right there bear Kilt. This should be about a 10 to 15 minute walk if you wish to check it all out, but I suggest taking a peak inside on several of the spots. Lots of choices.

I was in Sao Paolo and asked a taxi driver to take me to Casarao or Kilt he didn't know either. I am going back in a couple of weeks and staying at the Renaissance. Is this far from the boate Casarao. I was concerned about walking a few blocks. Is is safe at night? Are you still recommending this place and if so do you have the address? I did go to Cafe Photo one night which was outstanding but the whole night including take out cost around $500 which is absolutely crazy. Can't afford that again!

Ricker

08-07-11, 16:36

Just ask a driver to take you to Rua Augusta; everybody should know where that is. There is a line of bars including Casarao right along that area if you put Avenida Paulista on your back and walk away from it. If you keep walking straight on Rua Augusta you will notice it changes names to Rua Martin Fontes, once you see this go left and then you should be right there bear Kilt. This should be about a 10 to 15 minute walk if you wish to check it all out, but I suggest taking a peak inside on several of the spots. Lots of choices.OK. Yes, it's safe at night, just don't dress like a pimp with gold chains or watches. No problem.

No taxi needed from your hotel Rensnce.

Walk out the front of the Rensnce Hotel. Make a right. Your first street you come to will be Augusta. Go left and it will take you one block to Paulista (big street). Cross Paulista, continue on Augusta. About 5 blocks down you will see a gas station. A block past the gas station is where the girly bars start. Go to Casarao. It's accross from HSBC bank and Hotel Panama.

10R entrance, gets ya 2 beers or 1 drink. Hot girls. Tell them you'll pay 120R plus the room of 20R. Plenty will go for it. Avoid the high price, crappy service garotas who ask for ridiculous prices.

I was there last night and met a stunning morena from Santos and she's meeting me outside the place next week when I return to SP.

Have fun!

GGnull35

08-08-11, 04:50

Hi All Members,

I am going to visit Sao Paulo for a fair this week.

I ll stay in Hotel Novotel Center Norte.

I checked the forum there are some places members suggesting such as:

- KlitShows.

http://www.kiltshows.com.br

- Redmassage.

- Clinica Allure.

I will be glad if you share your deep knowledge with me. What are your suggestions for hunting?

Also good place to have dinner with a girlfriend?

Thanks in advance.

Sui Generis

08-08-11, 13:32

Hi All Members,

What are your suggestions for hunting?

Also good place to have dinner with a girlfriend?

Thanks in advance.1) If you don't speak Portuguese forget it! Your question is too vague. The possible answers depend on too many factors: your age, your style, your income, etc. The best places to meet non-pro are still in Itaim Bibi, Vila Olimpia, Vila Madalena and Pinheiros but if you're unable to mumble any words in Portuguese these advices are useless. A good place to meet non-pro is also on the HH bars near the Avenida Paulista. There you can meet women able to speak English.

2) Be more specific because São Paulo IS the place to dine out. It depends on what you are looking for: churrascaria, Italian, Japanese, etc. It depens also on what you are ready to spend. Do you have a lanchonete (snack-bar) budget or a Fasano, Figueira Rubayat or Ca' the'oro budget? This is what makes Sampa a unique city in the world: here you can find everything from street canteens to restaurants for billionaires.

Big In ATL

08-08-11, 20:52

Any Prive or Clinicas close to this hotel on Paulista Ave?

London Class *

Alameda Jaú.135, Jardins. 01420-000 Sao Paulo

El Greco

08-09-11, 00:00

SkinnyBop

08-09-11, 02:23

Any Prive or Clinicas close to this hotel on Paulista Ave?

London Class *

Alameda Jaú.135, Jardins. 01420-000 Sao PauloI reckon you best option is Rua Augusta as explained by Ricker and Voyajer 1 bellow. Rua Augusta is roughly 10 blocks from your hotel on your left hand side. You've got 3 options:

- Taxi.

- Metro (Subway). Get on Brigadeiro Station. Get off MASP Paulista then walk.

- Walk.

http://maps.google.com.br/maps?hl=pt-BR&cp=15&gs_id=3&xhr=t&q=Alameda+Ja%C3%BA. 135&safe=off&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on. 2, or. R_gc. R_pw. &biw=1366&bih=575&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

GGnull35

08-09-11, 11:14

1) If you don't speak Portuguese forget it! Your question is too vague. The possible answers depend on too many factors: your age, your style, your income, etc. The best places to meet non-pro are still in Itaim Bibi, Vila Olimpia, Vila Madalena and Pinheiros but if you're unable to mumble any words in Portuguese these advices are useless. A good place to meet non-pro is also on the HH bars near the Avenida Paulista. There you can meet women able to speak English.

2) Be more specific because São Paulo IS the place to dine out. It depends on what you are looking for: churrascaria, Italian, Japanese, etc. It depens also on what you are ready to spend. Do you have a lanchonete (snack-bar) budget or a Fasano, Figueira Rubayat or Ca' the'oro budget? This is what makes Sampa a unique city in the world: here you can find everything from street canteens to restaurants for billionaires.Thank you for reply. I am 30, and 2 friends 35 and 41.

We went to KiltShow so close to Novotel.

Girls are nice, for place ordinary.

For all night I paid 600 real (10pm. 6am) , A-Level, CIM.

So I ll go again.

Ricker

08-09-11, 15:38

Thank you for reply. I am 30, and 2 friends 35 and 41.

We went to KiltShow so close to Novotel.

Girls are nice, for place ordinary.

For all night I paid 600 real (10pm. 6am) , A-Level, CIM.

So I ll go again.Nossa! 600 Reais! For 8 hours, including sleeping most likey.

Glad you had fun, just know you OVER-paid, by lots.

I sometimes wonder who these guys are, that the girls tell me about, that are paying them those crazy amounts, when I'm helping them with maybe 150R when they come see me, and they're more than happy and return and return, and usually it's for an even longer period of time, or until I need them to leave.

All the power to ya, if you can afford it, that's great.

I'm greatfull that the girls pity me, and allow me to help them with much less rsrsrs

GGnull35

08-09-11, 23:35

Nossa! 600 Reais! For 8 hours, including sleeping most likey.

Glad you had fun, just know you OVER-paid, by lots.

I sometimes wonder who these guys are, that the girls tell me about, that are paying them those crazy amounts, when I'm helping them with maybe 150R when they come see me, and they're more than happy and return and return, and usually it's for an even longer period of time, or until I need them to leave.

All the power to ya, if you can afford it, that's great.

I'm greatfull that the girls pity me, and allow me to help them with much less rsrsrs. Frankly friend I spent 2 hours for sleeping. For rest: 4 times I did.

And she accepted Anal, come in mount, facial. Made my fantasies true.

So it was ok for me. I am paying like double in my country to do those.

What is the average rates for 2 hours and long time?

BTW, I think you are god gifted. I would like to pay less to get more.

Ricker

08-10-11, 02:53

. Frankly friend I spent 2 hours for sleeping. For rest: 4 times I did.

And she accepted Anal, come in mount, facial. Made my fantasies true.

So it was ok for me. I am paying like double in my country to do those.

What is the average rates for 2 hours and long time?

BTW, I think you are god gifted. I would like to pay less to get more.I'm not that gifted, I'm just experienced, know what I'm doing and who to choose.

CycloneDubai

08-12-11, 05:31

Guys,

I am just stopping over in Sao Paulo, will stay in Marriot airport hotel.

Anything arround you can recommand?

What about pick up place or home delivery? Any suggestion

Sunnyboy

08-13-11, 13:01

Visiting SP from 03 Sept. 12 Sept and staying at Estanplaza Berrini hotel.

Can anyone advise if there are any places nearby? Is this hotel chica friendly?

Thanks in advance

BionicMan

08-14-11, 09:19

Guys,

I am just stopping over in Sao Paulo, will stay in Marriot airport hotel.

Anything arround you can recommand?

What about pick up place or home delivery? Any suggestionPretty much a deserted area, but if you search on "Marriott" on this forum you might find some infos

TheBigWiz

08-15-11, 23:46

Does anyone know if this hotel allows you to bring girls back?

I would also greatly appreciate suggestions about where to go in the area of this hotel to pick up garotas de programa. I speak a little Portuguese. Looking for some girls who want to go multiple rounds and spend the night. Not looking for clockwatchers. I will be there for about 10 days beginning this weekend.

Thanks!

El Greco

08-16-11, 19:17

Pretty much a deserted area, but if you search on "Marriott" on this forum you might find some infosThere was a "clinica", working girl house in other words, in the small town of Guarulhos where the airport is.

Google it or use the search function of this forum.

SkinnyBop

08-17-11, 06:07

AltoBomGosto

08-19-11, 12:20

You'll be near Rua Augusta. Plenty of options in that area. Check the posts below cause there are lots of useful information in it.New place near to Shopping Santa Cruz (metro starion Santa Cruz) Rua Loefgreen 932, two blocks walking distance.

Place is ckean, new. 10/12 garotas, reasomable priced R$ 100, 00 / hour.

Good lounge, you can chat w / garota before deciding to take her to the fight.

Beer & soda, first beer free additinal R$ 5, 00.

Attendance from noon till 10 M

AtlantaFox

08-24-11, 16:57

Thanks for someone recommending this place. Definitely a must visit when in San Paolo unless you want to blow $600 US+ at Cafe Photo. Don't get there until 11pm as it doesn't open until then. Probably best to go at midnight as girls seemed to be coming (pardon the pun) by the minute. Hundreds of garotas and definitely some hot ones. R$10 to get in, drinks around R$25 each. Pick the lady of your choice and then upstairs for 30 minutes in a room. Going rate seemed to be R$150 plus R$25 for the room. A night to remember and strongly recommend. Honestly there was just too much choice!

Ricker

08-25-11, 15:11

Chan Nimal

08-27-11, 00:34

Great post SG! Hope you are doing well! I'm back in SP and ugh. T he weather is horrible. I think I saw the sun briefly today. Rsrsrs.

Be well fellow hobbyists!

Welcome Yapeyu.

Here's a map of your hotel and, by the same token, your district: Moema.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=fr&q=Hotel

%20Park%20Inn%20Radisson%2C%20Ibirapuera&rlz=1R2ADRA_frCA422&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=3211l3211l0l4347l1l1l0l0l0l0l212l212l2-1l1&bav=on. 2, or. R_gc. R_pw. &biw=1366&bih=615&wrapid=tlif131064605159811&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl.

You hotel is located on the Avenida Ibirapuera and your close to everything.

TRANSPORTATION.

1a) If you want to go downtown you can either take a bus on the avenida Ibirapuera on the huge "parada" which is located in front of Praça Nossa Senhora Aparecida (where there is a big white church). Take busses where it is written Praça the Sé and you will be dowtown, in the historic hub of the city, in a few minutes (when it's not the rush hours!).

1b) If you want to take the metro go to the corner of Ibirapuera and Lavandisca (just besides Praça das Pombos). The bus will take you to Santa Cruz metro station. This is the blue line: if you want to go downton take the direction towards Tucuruvi (North part of the Town).

1c) You can also take a bus on the corner of Ibirapuera and Rouxinol. The bus goes to the Ana Rosa metro station (ibid: blue line direction Tucuruvi).

1d) If you want to take a taxi there are many paradas in the district. (I am aware that there is one on the corner of Jamaris and Ibirapuera, nera the Mercure hotel). You can also ask a clerk at your hotel to call a taxi for you.

HOBBYING.

2a) If you take a look on the map, you'll notice that besides the Praça Nossa Senhora Aparecida there's the Avenida Moema. Walk up to number 841 (it is on the north side of the street). This is a very quiet bairro with luxurious condos. Don't be afraid to walk on that street (or in Moema). According to me, Red Massagen is actually one of the best spot in São Paulo.

http://www.redmassagem.com.br/site/

The manager, Erica is a gem. My suggestions: Mel (a garota with a very light complexion. She's of Ukranian / Polish descent. Black hair and blue eyes) or Monica (a tall brunette with a nice pair of rack. Her service is A-1!)

R$90 for 1/2h.

R$150 for 1h.

(There are promotions for the GP Guia foristas but that doesn't apply to you or most of the reader of this thread).

2b) If you are a little bit adventurous, there is a privê on Eucaliptos (just in front of the Ibirapuera Shopping Center). It's on located at 657 Avenida dos Eucaliptos. The "plantel" (staff) is less interesting than Red Massagem (basically this is the main difference between a CLínica (Red Massagem) and a privê (Eucaliptos). The main advantage of Eucaliptos is the following one: it's open almost all day long (it closes at 06am).

R$60 for 1/2h.

R$120 for 1h.

Not the best option, but for a quickie it's okay.

2c) Not too far from your hotel there's a nice privê near the Santa Cruz metro station. It's a new privê and the manager is Bebel. (You can either take a taxi or a bus to go there: See 1b.

It's called Fanysex:

http://www.fanisex.com.br/#

934 Rua Loefgreen in Vila Mariana.

R$60 1/2.

R$100 1h.

Sometimes there are gems working there.

2d) Take a cab or a bus (see 1c) and visit the Red Way. This is a privê near the Ana Rosa metro station.

It's located at 449 Rua Machado de Assis.

http://www.redway.com.br/

2e) There are several swing clubs near your hotel. If you need info PM me.

NON-PRO.

3a) There's a fine bar where you can pick up non-pros especially between 05 and 08pm (happy hours).

It's called Estalagem and it's located on the corner of Avenida Moema and Irãe (see the map).

3b) Shopping Ibirapuera is also a good place to mett non-pro (I'm damn serious!)

EATING OUT.

Go an Lavandisca there are an array of restraurants and bars. Moema is on of the best place to dine out.

Moistureman

09-01-11, 01:22

What is a reasonable rate for PSE for this establishment?

I have something for you. Your hotel- quite a good one by the way. Is very close to the Morumbi Shopping Center. From your hotel. Which is located on Avenida das Naçoes Unidas- walk against the traffic (which is one way or a contra mão going north) I. E. Go south untill the Morumbi Shopping Center (you cannot miss it). At the shopping center take Avenida Roque Petroni untill you reach Rua Chafik Maluf. On that street there is a privê which is good:

Espaço Morumbi 101 Rua Chafic Maluf.

Phone: (11) 5041-5128.

(Most garotas are 7/10 but sometimes there are 8/10 or 8. 5/10. 9/10.) If you want a PSE experience try Jasmine. Unforgettable. A mulatta clara with 19 tattoes.

I can also suggest a good churrascaria with a good selection of different dishes (pasta, fish, salads, desserts). On the same street: Avenida Roque Petroni. It's called churrascaria Morumbi:

http://www.morumbigrill.com.br/

Sui Generis

09-01-11, 09:44

What is a reasonable rate for PSE for this establishment?It's a flat rate: R$110 for an hour. Not all garotas offer PSE services but most of them do. It has nothing to do with the insane Termas prices in Rio. No entrance fees, clean rooms, a larger variety of garotas. São Paulo rocks, Rio sucks.

Almotu

09-01-11, 12:56

Hey SG: Of course, everybody has their preferences. I enjoy both Sao Paulo & Rio. The Termas pricing is insane but it also provides a party atmosphere in which if you don't want to session you can just hang out, drink and occasionally make out with the girls. At prives & clinicas even at customer friendly Redway, there is not much of this that can happen.

I have been in Rio for 10 nights already and have yet needed to step into a terma. I have had my needs well taken care of at an average cost of 80R per hour per girl. I miss the party atmosphere but I can't justify the cost at the current exchange rate. (1. 60R to $1. 00)

Albert Punter

09-03-11, 01:29

I agree that USD 600 at Cafe Photo are expensive.
However, even about R 200 for only 30 minutes at Casarao are expensive IMHO.
You may pay same amount of money enjoying a GdP for 90 or 120 minutes in the comfort of your room or in the girl's place.

Thanks for someone recommending this place. Definitely a must visit when in San Paolo unless you want to blow $600 US+ at Cafe Photo. Don't get there until 11pm as it doesn't open until then. Probably best to go at midnight as girls seemed to be coming (pardon the pun) by the minute. Hundreds of garotas and definitely some hot ones. R$10 to get in, drinks around R$25 each. Pick the lady of your choice and then upstairs for 30 minutes in a room. Going rate seemed to be R$150 plus R$25 for the room. A night to remember and strongly recommend. Honestly there was just too much choice!

Fabio27

09-03-11, 02:41

Hello, there, fellas!

I went to Sao Paulo on business and decided to stay for the weekend. The city is certainly the most sofisticated in the country. The best restaurants, the best night and cultural life, the best services as a whole. But the most expensive as well. I decided to call one Mclass garota de programa. Mclass has model-style w, usually more expensive than the average (certainly more expensive than in Rio) , but very professional as well. I hired alice (see photos below, showing face, as I think it should be). Full tits, tight p. She certainly looks much older personally that in the photoshoped website pic. The cost was R$ 300.

Enjoy and UPLOAD photos, friends! Sao Paulo has the best putaria in Brazil!

Ricker

09-03-11, 04:57

Ricker

09-03-11, 05:00

I agree that USD 600 at Cafe Photo are expensive.

However, even about R 200 for only 30 minutes at Casarao are expensive IMHO.

You may pay same amount of money enjoying a GdP for 90 or 120 minutes in the comfort of your room or in the girl's place.With just a little gift of the gab you can easily have fun for 140-150R total at Casarao.

I definitely agree though, it's much nicer once you can make arrangements to meet outside.

Albert Punter

09-03-11, 10:41

This is a very good example on how disappointing could be when a girl you have selected thru a website arrives.

.

She certainly looks much older personally that in the photoshoped website pic.

BionicMan

09-03-11, 14:12

Hello, there, fellas! I hired alice (see photos below, showing face, as I think it should be). Full tits, tight p. She certainly looks much older personally that in the photoshoped website pic. The cost was R$ 300.Wait a minute (no flaming) : is this the same girl (as she is)? That's a superwork of photoshop!

I hope that she was good at her job as I would have been seriously disappointed to see what is visible as a reality compared to the web photo.
One seems the mother of the other.

I had once a girl from M-class: there was indeed some difference between her picture and her real image, but was minor and acceptable (let's say some 10% difference)

This has nothing to do with the quality of the girl you got, we have paid more for less visual quality! LOL, but to the fact there is a sort of cheating.

I am surprised M-class goes so far.

Had 3 GdP's in one go last year, and their appearance matched: 100%on one. 90% on the second and 85/90% on the third, compared to the pictures of their own blogs.

More than acceptable.

Almotu

09-04-11, 18:07

HungryStud101

09-05-11, 01:40

This is a very good example on how disappointing could be when a girl you have selected thru a website arrives.This just happend to me in Buenos Aires. Luckily I went down stairs to meet her and I observed a girl with a cell phone to her ear standiing outside my building looking up as I walked out. She looked like a fatter older womanin the photos. I wlaked past her and jumped in the first cab to the putario I could find. This is always the problem iwth outcall. The first time you have ever laid eyes and them is when they either knock on your door or you come down to the front desk to get them. At least at a Privy the girls introduce themselves and kiss you on the cheek and you can "shop" for the best girl and move on if there is nothing there that suits your fancy.

Euro100

09-05-11, 16:09

Phunluv

09-05-11, 20:00

Mclass has model-style w, usually more expensive than the average (certainly more expensive than in Rio) , but very professional as well. I hired alice (see photos below, showing face, as I think it should be). Full tits, tight p. She certainly looks much older personally that in the photoshoped website pic. The cost was R$ 300.
This is a very good example on how disappointing could be when a girl you have selected thru a website arrives.
This just happened to me in Buenos Aires. Luckily I went down stairs to meet her and I observed a girl with a cell phone to her ear standing outside my building looking up as I walked out. .This is usually why when I call a prepaga / gdp over for the first time, I prefer to meet them downstairs in the vestibule / lobby. Give them a quick look-over not just to compare with the pics on the site, but just in case I get some kind of negative vibe or "6th sense" that something doesn't seem right. If that caution feeling pops up, or she's just way too different in looks from the original pic (as in the case below) I just mumble some apology about a "misunderstanding" and stealthily hand over some go-away / taxi-ride money. But once they go upstairs or, god forbid, walk through the "magic portal" that is your apartment / hotel room doorway, suddenly things can get more complicated; it's almost like the rules start to shift in their favor now.

Without a decent first impression, never cede a first-time out-call the advantage and just hand over "right-of-entry" to your place.

Auriflama

09-07-11, 07:27

You're welcome. You can definitely find some gems in Casarao.Ricker, how is the selection of mulata's at Casarao?

Ricker

09-08-11, 04:02

Ricker, how is the selection of mulata's at Casarao?The selection of girls changes all the time.

Yes, however, there's usually at least several nice mulatas walking about.

Nongpagba

09-10-11, 22:52

Citation from sui generis:

It's located at 449 Rua Machado de Assis.

http://www.redway.com.br/

Thanks to this information, I went there today. First, only three ladies were present, none to my taste. Then a lady with big boobs and some mulata-influence arrived, and I chose her. The service was ok, although CBJ and only timid french kisses. It was at noon, so in the evening the choice may be better. Will try some of the brothels in Pinheiro now.

Nongpagba

09-11-11, 02:24

Went to this location this evening. Only 3-4 mostly unattractive ladies were present. One with need of dental correction joined me and started to caress the sensible parts. Since sometimes I'm weeak I gave in. Sex was medium or weak, but since I was horny, I came after her riding me for a while in doggy position. Her Ass was the only attractive part of the lady. Maybe after mostly Thai experiences in the immediate past I appreciated more a round and full behind. Damage was 100 and odd R. Because of lady drink, for the same price I had visited Redway in the afternoon, so the 70 for the service at these brothels are not really cheaper.

Sui Generis

09-11-11, 04:24

. Then a lady with big boobs and some mulata-influence arrived, and I chose her. .It was probably Angela, a bahiana. Her service is very YMMV.

Nongpagba

09-13-11, 16:07

It was probably Angela, a bahiana. Her service is very YMMV.No, it was Flávia, and looking back in this thread, I see, you had a negative experience with her.

Nongpagba

09-13-11, 16:13

Visited 3 places in Pinheiros: Passarela, rua dos Pinheiros, one lady. Morena. Looked attractive. On Sunday, the place was dead. Estacao Pinheiros, rua Martim Carrasco: about 10-15 ladies, none attractive for me; in both places beer is 8 R. Casa Amarela R. Cunha Gago, only a few less attractive ladies, one with mega boobs; beer is only 5R.

Sui Generis

09-14-11, 00:38

No, it was Flávia, and looking back in this thread, I see, you had a negative experience with her.Okay, now I remember her. I saw her last April. You're right it was not a memorable experience (I was kind of tired and without my luggages). If I'm totally honest I remember that she was very good looking though.

Aibolit

09-14-11, 04:09

Gentlemen,

I greatly enjoyed reading many of the valuable stories of the esteemed members of this forum. I'm heading to Sao Paulo (and RIO and.) soon. Sadly, I speak zero Porto. I wonder, if any of you will consider addressing my few simple questions below. Your wisdom will be breatly appreciated:

1. I always prefer young, slim, model-looking skinny girls. Big bundas and the ladies that are over 25 year old are just not for me. I also prefer light-skinned girls on most occasions. While I understand that gems can be found almost everywhere, I don't have too much time to look. So, I wonder which establishments provide the biggest and surerest selection of young slim stunners with zero flabbiness on their legs, butt, belly, etc?

2. What are the best times of the day to visit the places you suggest? What type of rooms are advisable to use there with the girl?

3. Any other places, aside the ones mentioned above that non-pro stunners can be found (English speaking, perhaps).

Many thanks in advance for your insights!

Aibolit

Sui Generis

09-14-11, 10:37

1. I always prefer young, slim, model-looking skinny girls. Big bundas and the ladies that are over 25 year old are just not for me.

2. What are the best times of the day to visit the places you suggest? What type of rooms are advisable to use there with the girl?

3. Any other places, aside the ones mentioned above that non-pro stunners can be found (English speaking, perhaps).

Aibolit1) It's easier to find what you're looking for in São Paulo than in Rio (because there you'll find more dark skinned girls in general). I guess that a girl like Cleo at Red Massagem is exactly what you're looking for. If you're into skinny girls, there's also Patricia Kimberly (and she speaks a little bit English) that could be an option.

http://www.patriciakimberly.com/.

2) Afternoons are a good option because there are less Johns sitting in the waiting room.

3) For non-pros try after-hour bars on the Avenida Paulista.

Nongpagba

09-14-11, 22:43

Went to Fani Sex yesterday, was already mentioned by sui generis: http://www.fanisex.com.br/index.php

When I arrived about 1pm, there were about 6 customers waiting. There was about the same no. Of ladies also. I chose a slim girl with African influence, name? Ilidia. She has a very attractive body and she is beautiful when she smiles. Her service was kind of uninvolved, though. However a BBBJ and she willingly changed positions. After the first round, she asked "aguentas outro?" and I could come a second time; left about 45 minutes after start. Price 100R for 1 hour. Will not reapet, however. Will maybe try Carina. Purer African type. Next time.

Gbartoli

09-15-11, 03:20

There's something wrong in Moema because most of the places are now closed. That's sad because Red Massagem was my favorite place. I don't have the copnfirmation yet but it appears that it's closed for good.Any update on this situation. Both Red Massagem and Moema in general? The website is up, sort of; no content.

Aibolit

09-17-11, 02:07

Thank you, Sui Generis, for answering my questions. I wonder, if someone ever posted a guide to mongering in SP in the same way that Sperto and Bubba Boy posted very helpful guidelines for RIO.

If not. I thank in advance other participants of this forum for sharing their wisdom by answering my questions below.

Aibolit.

Nongpagba

09-17-11, 14:52

Any update on this situation. Both Red Massagem and Moema in general? The website is up, sort of; no content.In GPGuia are reports visits in the last days, so it should be working.

Nongpagba

09-17-11, 14:56

Went to Fani Sex on Thursday afternoon. The staff seemed to be quite compete. I chose Carina, dark African type, big bunda. She started without asking with a good and long sustained BBBJ, then various positions, finally CIM. The second round BJ again, then doggy, finally release with HJ. Best performer in my first week in SP. 100/1h, gave 20 tip.

Aibolit

09-18-11, 16:07

All,

I found the link below quite useful. It organizes in one place various SP options, including names, addresses, phones and websites. All in one!

http://www.emsampa.com.br/page6n.htm

As I haven't been in SP for a while. It would be helpful, if someone who's on the ground now would comment about the accuracy of the addresses etc. For example, I heard that Bahamas is no longer open.

Hope this is helpful.

Aibolit

Gfe Finder

09-18-11, 17:54

Gfe Finder

09-18-11, 18:01

For example, I heard that Bahamas is no longer open.Apparently, Bahamas has re-opened! A poster on ijsberenforum mentioned going there last July. It was his first time in Sampa so he didn't know that it had been closed for so long but it would seem that is over. Can anyone else confirm that they are indeed open for business?

Thanks again for sharing the link.

Sui Generis

09-18-11, 21:10

Apparently, Bahamas has re-opened! A poster on ijsberenforum mentioned going there last July. It was his first time in Sampa so he didn't know that it had been closed for so long but it would seem that is over. Can anyone else confirm that they are indeed open for business?

Thanks again for sharing the link.Yes, it has re-opened at the same location. Now there's a flat rate for all the garotas at R$100 for 1h 1/2 and you have a complimentary bottle of Red Label.

Seriously. Keep dreaming. Bahamas is gone for ever and it won't come back. Guys, stop living in the past.

(To your information there are others clubs with the name Bahamas. For example in Porto Alegre and Salvador de Bahia. But they have nothing to do. Not even remotly. With Oscar Maroni's former Bahamas. (He had opened a club in São Jão dos Campos but it's far from being the mythical Bahamas).

Cduce

09-18-11, 23:40

Hi,

I will be going to Sao Paulo next week for the first time. I am not familiar with the public transport system but I would be staying at Melia Jardim Europa for two nights as part of my 3 day business visit. I have been told the hotel is nice but I am looking for some action nearby but I have to balance commutting cost with punting. Appreciate if our experienced friends here can guide me based on my hotel location on my following queries:

1. Core difference be / w clinicas and pives? Is one safer than the other in terms of local authority / police botheration etc? Is one cheaper than the other and do they both provide PSE?

2. Does one have to clarify interest in backdoor entry upfront at the reception or can it be brought up midway with the girl under discussion?

3. Is is mandatory or the norm to tip women at clinicas and pives. If yes then how much?

4. In a 1 hour session, two shots of emptying the pipe are assumed or does it vary from place to place?

5. Given my hotel location please reccomend cheap / reasonable safe places and the means of transportation based on after 9PM week night visits.

Thanks in advance

Aibolit

09-19-11, 00:33

So sad that Bahamas club is gone for good. The hope dies last, as they say! This is the only place where I had unforgetable time in SP few years ago. Thank you, Sui Generis, for confirming.

What about the other options from my link? Are they viable? I heard that American Bar is gone, as well, as some others. Sui G. You seem to be an expert on the ground in SP. Please elucidate! http://www.emsampa.com.br/page6n.htm

I will be in SP shortly for a week, after many years away. I'm sure it's a different place now. I'd like to treat myself to an optic f*k, but with GFE. I know, I know. Who doesn't want that. But. Nothing less than that is appealing to me and I'm ready to pay for that experience or to dig in the trash for gems . Whetever gets the desired outcome!

So, the question is. What places from the my link below can produce GFE stunners with high degree of probability? I'm happy to try different genres. Overpriced glamour and cheap places with possibility for hidden gems.

Many thanks in advance for the insights! Aibolit

Sui Generis

09-19-11, 02:56

Hi,

1. Core difference be / w clinicas and pives? Is one safer than the other in terms of local authority / police botheration etc? Is one cheaper than the other and do they both provide PSE?

2. Does one have to clarify interest in backdoor entry upfront at the reception or can it be brought up midway with the girl under discussion?

3. Is is mandatory or the norm to tip women at clinicas and pives. If yes then how much?

4. In a 1 hour session, two shots of emptying the pipe are assumed or does it vary from place to place?

5. Given my hotel location please reccomend cheap / reasonable safe places and the means of transportation based on after 9PM week night visits.

Thanks in advance1) Prîves are always cheaper (less expensive) than CLínicas. The main difference between the two is the quality of the premises and in CLínicas garotas are more good looking (in prîves garotas range from 6 up to 8/10 while in CLínicas they are between 7. 5 and 9/10) Both are relatively safe. PSE is available in both venues both it is always a question of YMMV.

Q) Both answers are possible. You can enquire at the reception (if you speak Portuguese) or. It is more frequent- you bargain it directly with the garota. It is also a YMMV thing and it depends of your hygyene and the size of your Peter.

3) No it is not mandatory. I never do this.

4) If you pay for an hour it's MSOG.

5) You are located in Itaim Bibi which is a nice bairro and where there are a lot of bars if you want to meet nonpros. If you intend to visit after 9PM I must tell you that it's more difficult to find prîvés and CLínicas because most of them close at 10pm. You may consider instead a place like Cafe Photo but it is more expensive.

Near your hotel there is CLínica my way: www.clinicamyway.com.br

Schedule.

From Monday to Friday: :Noon to 10PM.

Saturday: Noon to 08PM.

R$200 for the room and the massage + $R150 for the programa.

Sui Generis

09-19-11, 16:08

Starting today in São Paulo.

Watch out! To cross the streets when it is not at an intersection is not tolerated anymore. A lot of cops on the streets today giving fines. Cross the streets at an intersection and when the lights are green.

JohnTodd

09-20-11, 00:19

Nongpagba

09-20-11, 00:55

Went there Thursday last week; wanted to test Bebel, who has good reports in GPGuia and who is not ugly. Unfortunetely, she was not available, and I did not want to wait one hour. So I took Pamela for one hour: good and firm tail, otherwise a middle attractive morena. She gave an good BBBJ and acted good in the doggy position, but otherwise she managed to transmit her lacking interest in such a way that I could not achieve the second pop in time. Never this lady again, and, with the not overwhelming experiences I might wait one week for West Africa, see then there.

Sui Generis

09-20-11, 05:07

I just went to Clinica Kin, it is closed, so is the other Clinica across the street. The neighborhood had what looks like sold signs on almost all the buildings in the area, perhaps a condo is planned?

I do not know if both Clinicas moved?CLínica Kin went to another location (I'm going to bed and I'm too lazy to divulgate the new address right now). I'll write ti down tomorrow.

The sold signs are there because they're planning to open a metro sation in the neibourghood.

JohnTodd

09-20-11, 22:04

Went to Asshai, they had a 10 girl line up 4 were very good. I chose a 21 yr old thin blond with 36C's, she was the most energetic massage lady I ever encountered. She had more energy than me, and was disappointed when I had to stop, exhausted. A true GFE experience, best I have ever encountered in Brazil.

Asshai is close enough to the Hilton and Sheraton hotels where you can walk, its a 20 min walk.

Prices went up since my last visit, todays price is 150 Real.

Cduce

09-20-11, 22:08

Thanks Sui Gneris you have been very helpful with my queries as you have been with others. The option you've suggested 'myway' unfortunately would still be pricey and I am looking for something mid tier, around 100-120 R$. If nothing else is close given your knowledge what would you recommend for a quick hop on a taxi to reach somewhere after 8PM from my hotel location?

Are taxis / buses operational 10-11pm in the night and are they safe to be used at that hour by foreigners? Thanks for the help.

1) Prîves are always cheaper (less expensive) than CLínicas. The main difference between the two is the quality of the premises and in CLínicas garotas are more good looking (in prîves garotas range from 6 up to 8/10 while in CLínicas they are between 7. 5 and 9/10) Both are relatively safe. PSE is available in both venues both it is always a question of YMMV.

Q) Both answers are possible. You can enquire at the reception (if you speak Portuguese) or. It is more frequent- you bargain it directly with the garota. It is also a YMMV thing and it depends of your hygyene and the size of your Peter.

3) No it is not mandatory. I never do this.

4) If you pay for an hour it's MSOG.

5) You are located in Itaim Bibi which is a nice bairro and where there are a lot of bars if you want to meet nonpros. If you intend to visit after 9PM I must tell you that it's more difficult to find prîvés and CLínicas because most of them close at 10pm. You may consider instead a place like Cafe Photo but it is more expensive.

Near your hotel there is CLínica my way:

www.clinicamyway.com.br

Schedule.

From Monday to Friday: :Noon to 10PM.

Saturday: Noon to 08PM.

R$200 for the room and the massage + $R150 for the programa.

Sui Generis

09-21-11, 00:21

Nongpagba

09-21-11, 23:17

HungryStud101

09-21-11, 23:52

Have been there last week and took Bombom, who has good reports on GPGuia. BBBJ was middle, service was on the lower scale. She managed to transmit her lack of engagement and interest very clearly. 80 R / 30 minutes. Will not go there again, but, since the lack of showing engagement seems genuine ot Brasialian providers, I'm not sure, if I will give more tries for the five days remaining. It isn't a question of Portuguese which I speak fluently, though more the Portugal variety.Ahh yes Espaco Morumbi. Spent a weekend hobbying there just before carnival. It was so reeasonable why not? I liked it. Sorry you did not have a good time.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports/page20

Ricker

09-22-11, 15:03

. but, since the lack of showing engagement seems genuine of Brasialian providers, I'm not sure, if I will give more tries for the five days remaining. It isn't a question of Portuguese which I speak fluently, though more the Portugal variety.Wow, I've been generally very pleased with the Brasileiras, both pro and non.

Seems odd you're bad luck with them, wish you better success.

Gaucho9

09-22-11, 15:16

Have been there last week and took Bombom, who has good reports on GPGuia. BBBJ was middle, service was on the lower scale. She managed to transmit her lack of engagement and interest very clearly. 80 R / 30 minutes. Will not go there again, but, since the lack of showing engagement seems genuine ot Brasialian providers, I'm not sure, if I will give more tries for the five days remaining. It isn't a question of Portuguese which I speak fluently, though more the Portugal variety.Fluent in portuguese, but. The Portugal variety?

Oh well, everybody knows that portuguese aren't precisely loved in Brasil. So maybe it had to do with your "sotaque", pal.

No offense. .

P. S. : Have you heard the last joke? There goes this portuguese.

More at http://www.piadas.com.br/piadas/portugues

Aibolit

09-24-11, 02:07

Hello, everyone,

I will be arriving soon to SP and staying near Consolacao metro station. Haven't been in SP for many years. Will greatly appreciate any advice regaridng the places nearby where young slim stunners can be found (no big thies or bundas, but model-type fresh-faced chicks).

Your help is greatly appreciated!

Aibolit

Leo Spanish

09-25-11, 13:32

Hi, friends.

Last Thursday I was looking for a good club in Moema or Itaim (Southern Sao Paulo, good areas of nightlife). I already knew Cafe Photo and I wanted to avoid it due to the very high cost adding taxis, entrance and girl (around 1. 000 R$=600 USD=450 €UROS) and because I was looking something faster this time, mainly because I had to get up early next day.

My hotel was very close to Ibirapuera Shopping, so I thought about Zeus Bar where I arrived just walking less than 10 minutes. Safe area but always paying attention. The adress is Ave. Dos Carinás 318. They are very closed to Inner Club, the most famous swinger club in SP I visited some times in the past but today full of GDP playing as fake GF or wifes.

Zeus bar was called American Show some years ago. Its web site is: www.zeusbar.com.br

The entrance fee is 80 R$ including either 2 strong drinks (scotch, gin, vodka, caipirinha.) or 4 beers / cokes / juices. They open at 7PM but until 10 PM is almost empty of girls. They close with the last customer. Only 8-10 men that night.

There were about 20/30 girls, model type for 25% of them, good average level. Some of them have strip show every half an hour. Fully naked and exciting positions. Funny place just to drink, talk and watch the shows if you do not want more that time.

If you want more, the system is easy. You negotiate with the girl you like. You are not obliged to invite girls for a drink though some waiters try to convince you. Two options. A) you go to a small hotel they have and you pay 80 R$ there for one hour be) you pay 200 R$ in the Zeus Bar and you take the girl to your hotel or another motel.

The cost of the girl depends on the time and the girl but for at midnight, for one hour. 300 R$ will be normal. You can negotiate down 50 R$ but I do not like to do that when I feel it is a fair price. No more tips and the girl will provide you her gratitude. You can use your credit card for those 300 R$ but the club will charge 10% more (debit card) or 15% more (credit card).

I met a GFE. Regina Vidal is her name. Nurse during the day (I verified it) and some days working in the night for having extra income. She does not speak english but her friend, Lara, does. Regina has blond hair and good curves. 1.70 tall. I would put an 8 for her body. 9 for her face and 10 for her attitude and involvement. Very high level. I paid 80 R$ (entrance) + 300 R$ (girl) + 80 R$ (hotel) = 460 R$ = 270 USD = 200 €UROS for two hours show, drinks and one very good hour in the hotel. BBBJ, mouth kissing and FS with several positions. It was worthy in Sao paulo where prices are every time more expensives for everything. A final shower with Regina, kisses, short walk and to sleep 5 hours alone in my hotel!