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Do not use an ATM outside of security at GRU. You can almost guarantee that your card will be skimmed. Use the ATMs that are inside security. Much smaller chance of getting skimmed.
I appreciate your politeness for not quoting my post. Try google this and see what comes up and check the date on it. "Do NOT use the ATM right after immigration (and before customs) at GRU airport". There is another link in that post to another post. Just sharing info.
Hotel rates really have skyrocketed in SP recently but I wanted to share a great find. The JW Marriott originally opened as the Four Seasons right before the pandemic but closed and re-opened three months ago as the JW Marriott. It's a gorgeous hotel and it is conveniently connected to a small shopping mall with everything you could need and a small food court with lots of options.
Rates through the Marriott web site were really expensive ($300+ with corporate discount). I found it for $137/ night through Priceline. The hotel is girl friendly but requires registration with minimal hassle. A couple nights they offered my lady friend a glass of sparkling wine. A warning though, they have amazing blackout curtains so your Scandallo girls might sleep all day! Seriously! I had a few that loved the bed so much and how dark the room was that they slept past 2 pm even while I was working from my desk. Housekeeping is fantastic and changed my sheets every day with fresh linens and lots of towels. Room service was also very good.
FlowState985
08-02-22, 20:01
I appreciate your politeness for not quoting my post. Try google this and see what comes up and check the date on it. "Do NOT use the ATM right after immigration (and before customs) at GRU airport". There is another link in that post to another post. Just sharing info.Jeeze, that is recently too, Jan 2022. But yeah, I don't trust any ATM unless it's inside a bank and put a max daily limit on my debit as well.
Mr. Cane,
Where did anyone post that "hardly anyone accepts" cash? I posted my trip report with my observations. I can't find the post where it was stated you can't use cash? Most, easily 95%, of transactions I observed were with a card. So if anyone is exaggerating the issue, it is you. We are just trying to inform the rest of us newbies on our observations and experiences. If your risk tolerance is low, knock yourself out with cash. In fact I pointed out some places the international card won't work and cash is a must. Bring backup of cards and cash.
Been a member and posting (rarely) here since 2005. Might be a newbie to Brazil but not a rookie, no offense intended, LMFAO.
If you don't wader in to some shady area in the US or Brazil. You can use your card as usual.
I've been using it since 2010 in Brazil and haven't had a problem. Got frauded 3 times in the US and I still use it in the US.
EVERYTHING at the airport has very bad rates / prices. Food. Currency exchange, items. Even those fake ubers.
If you are on the magentax MAX Tmobile plan. You can use your phone data and service in Brazil for free. Don't need to buy any sim.
I have found a significant amount of Paulistanos (SP Brasilians) understand and speak English.Not only that, but a lot of Brazilian people understand Spanish (but don't necessarily speak it). It's obviously different from Portuguese in some significant ways, but it's a similar Romance language, and if you speak it slowly and clearly enough many will understand what you are saying, even if they tell you they don't speak Spanish. If I'm having problems communicating for whatever reason (not usual), sometimes I will go there as a last resort. And then at other times, it's a first resort with women who I find don't speak English, but who are fluent in Spanish, like the porn star Elisa Sanches pictured on the left (fucked her in the butt at the Pestana Hotel). Or the loira branca Julia pictured on the right who I met at the old Cafe Photo (also got that cuzinha). With their English being weak and my Portuguese being weak, our conversations were conducted 100% in Spanish. The ability to communicate? No problem. Whatever it takes!
Steve 9696
08-03-22, 03:09
EVERYTHING at the airport has very bad rates / prices. Food. Currency exchange, items. Even those fake ubers.
If you are on the magentax MAX Tmobile plan. You can use your phone data and service in Brazil for free. Don't need to buy any sim.I haven't tried it outside the country yet but just moved to Google Fi and it has unlimited data in 200 countries. No SIM. Very hopeful.
I have found a significant amount of Paulistanos (SP Brasilians) understand and speak English. The question is when do they speak english? When they "choose to." However, they do understand you. ....The clerk in Vivo store speaks English. Tim 144 line has English option and the person on the line speaks excellent English. At least one waiter in the restaurant Fôrno speaks English. All happened on the same day.
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Been a member and posting (rarely) here since 2005. Might be a newbie to Brazil but not a rookie, no offense intended, LMFAO.So it's you! I thought it was me. It hit me really hard actually. By counting "times" I know I will never reach the level of The Cane, continue sobbing alone...
Mr. Cane,
Where did anyone post that "hardly anyone accepts" cash? I posted my trip report with my observations. I can't find the post where it was stated you can't use cash? Most, easily 95%, of transactions I observed were with a card. So if anyone is exaggerating the issue, it is you. We are just trying to inform the rest of us newbies on our observations and experiences. If your risk tolerance is low, knock yourself out with cash. In fact I pointed out some places the international card won't work and cash is a must. Bring backup of cards and cash.
Been a member and posting (rarely) here since 2005. Might be a newbie to Brazil but not a rookie, no offense intended, LMFAO.The use of credit cards (debit cards too) in Brazil is a push button issue for me, as you can see. I don't believe it's a good idea to rely upon them heavily there for the reasons I've already stated. And being the contrarian that I am, the fact that 95% of people may be doing something doesn't necessarily convince me that I ought to do it too. Especially when I have data points that suggest to me that I ought to go another way. Has worked fantastic for me when it comes to investing money LOL! Now, as another has stated, at the end of the day there is no "right" way to travel. Each man monger must discover the means and methods that best suit him. For me in Brazil that means operating mostly with cash that I withdraw periodically from secure ATM machines. I urge others to take similar precautions.
By counting "times" I know I will never reach the level of The Cane.I didn't. Hey, have some ambition! LOL!
Yes, Google Fi is the other good alternative. I believe Magenta Max Tmobile also provides free internet on the airplane in the US too.
I haven't tried it outside the country yet but just moved to Google Fi and it has unlimited data in 200 countries. No SIM. Very hopeful.
I haven't tried it outside the country yet but just moved to Google Fi and it has unlimited data in 200 countries. No SIM. Very hopeful.Yes, data is unlimited, but not free ($10/GB capped at $60/month). The data cost the same irrespective which country you consume it in. I had used it internationally in Canada, UK, Scotland, Europe, Brazil, Argentina and very happy with their service unlike TMobile which was very spotty and unreliable.
FlowState985
08-03-22, 05:28
Yes, data is unlimited, but not free ($10/GB capped at $60/month). The data cost the same irrespective which country you consume it in. I had used it internationally in Canada, UK, Scotland, Europe, Brazil, Argentina and very happy with their service unlike TMobile which was very spotty and unreliable.From what I read off their website $65/ month is their unlimited plus, basically unlimited up to 50 GB then it throttles. What you mentioned is Flexible plan starts out $20/ month. Unless I missed something. Here's the link for comparison. https://fi.google.com/about/plans/.
Axel Heyst
08-03-22, 12:40
I have the T-Mobil Magenta Unlimited 55 plan which costs $50/ month for 1 phone or $30/ month per phone for 2 or more phones. The plan works automatically upon arrival in Brazil, however, download internet speeds are incredibly slow. Of course, WiFi in most 4* & 5* hotels is fast and reliable, but in a bar or restaurant speeds are low and asking for WiFi pw's gets to be a pain in the ass. T-Mobil has a solution for this problem. They call it their International Pass. It costs an additional $50/ month, but you will never complain about slow download speeds in Brazil again.
From what I read off their website $65/ month is their unlimited plus, basically unlimited up to 50 GB then it throttles. What you mentioned is Flexible plan starts out $20/ month. Unless I missed something. Here's the link for comparison. https://fi.google.com/about/plans/.Thanks FlowState985 for pointing that out. Yes, I am on flexible plan as my average monthly data usage is not that high (except when I travel internationally). I didn't realize they have unlimited plans. Sorry, Steve9696 you were right.
TedFerguson
08-03-22, 17:00
Google Fi is great for short trips outside the US. If you stay months outside, they deactivate your data. I've also found that $10/ GB is inflated US pricing. These days I use an app called Airalo which lets you get an eSIM that works in 87 countries for about $5/ GB. That tides me over long enough until I can go to a cell phone store and get a local SIM, which besides being even cheaper is sometimes required for food delivery apps (iFood in Brazil for example).
When I was planning a business trip in South America, I did what we all do: Search for the flight.
Among the long list of options shown by Latam Airlines, I found one that let me do an 10 hour stop in Guarulhos. The perfect time-lapse for a very audacious pit stop. Oh yeah, adrenaline rushed into my vains, also because it was one of the cheapest options (happy face).
My scale arrived at 7 pm in Guarulhos, my luggage was already checked until final destination so nothing to worry about. I went straight to the taxi booth and called a taxi to. Café Photo.
Almost 1 Hour taxi crossing entire Sao Paulo, checked in Café Photo and saved my briefcase in the "guarda volumens" and straight to the bar upstairs. And yes, I found a brunette that caught my eye (later she told me she was in Dubai few weeks before). I told her to help us find a friend and she called another brunette that looked lovely with long long hair, and she was a true beginner. It was her last year of university. After having spent around 3 hours in the club, we all three headed to Asturias motel.
First round with the Dubai brunette, the rookie did not make part of the action, she was sitting staring at us smoking a cigarette, a bit reluctant to see us fucking. I finished with the Dubai brunette and we all talked for few minutes until my dick was hard again.
Then it came the time for the student brunette. She was dressing a black blouse that had a lovely cleavage, and a pair of loose silk pants that showed the curves of her ass. She was white and smooth, really classy.
I called her to me and she stood next to the bed, I slowly took those pants off and then her underwear. I laid her down on the bed and rose her legs up pointing to the ceiling. I did not give her much time to get wet and I simply penetrated her. She made a sound of pain, her legs were on my shoulders, I approached my trunk to her, posing all my weight on her, I kissed her I stuck my dick until the very end. Deep inside her, and fucked her in that position until I came. When I pulled my condom there was a bit of blood on it. It was a great feeling.
The brunette student was the first to leave the motel when her uber arrived. The Dubai brunette told me to give her a lift (carona) to her house that was on the way to Guarulhos.
Everything costed around Reals 2500 plus the tax for reentering the airport. I continued my flight with no delay. In peace ready for work.
My next flight may have two pit stops. One in Buenos Aires and the second in Rio / SP. Those cheap flights are fantastic for pit stops.
Time on pics:
15:51 leaving Buenos Aires Ezeiza.
19:01 Arriving Sao Paulo.
19:54 Taxi from airport to club.
20:43 Club.
00:13 Arriving to the motel.
01:45 last round.
02:39 Calling our taxi.
02:48 Taxi arrives when talking on the bed.
03:30 near to Guarulhos.
End of pit stop.
Not only that, but a lot of Brazilian people understand Spanish (but don't necessarily speak it). It's obviously different from Portuguese in some significant ways, but it's a similar Romance language, and if you speak it slowly and clearly enough many will understand what you are saying, even if they tell you they don't speak Spanish. If I'm having problems communicating for whatever reason (not usual), sometimes I will go there as a last resort. And then at other times, it's a first resort with women who I find don't speak English, but who are fluent in Spanish, like the porn star Elisa Sanches pictured on the left (fucked her in the butt at the Pestana Hotel). Or the loira branca Julia pictured on the right who I met at the old Cafe Photo (also got that cuzinha). With their English being weak and my Portuguese being weak, our conversations were conducted 100% in Spanish. The ability to communicate? No problem. Whatever it takes!I don't get too hung up on trying to learn perfect Portuguese. It isn't like I am ever going to be a considered a Brazilian anyway. No matter what kind of shirt I wear 😜.
I speak close to fluent Spanish so I mix it with Portuguese and speak "portunol" which works great for me at bars, restaurants and everywhere else. Usually, I tell the speaker if they are speaking English to speak Portuguese so I can get better at understanding it.
I laid her down on the bed and rose her legs up pointing to the ceiling. I did not give her much time to get wet and I simply penetrated her. She made a sound of pain, her legs were on my shoulders, I approached my trunk to her, posing all my weight on her, I kissed her I stuck my dick until the very end. Deep inside her, and fucked her in that position until I came. When I pulled my condom there was a bit of blood on it. It was a great feeling.You really know how to treat women. You must be their favourite customer.
Good point Anaggie.
Remember Brazil received hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of immigrants during the 20st century. There is a culture of immigration and welcoming immigrants.
Gringo, the word to call the new extranger, has no bad meaning at all. As a matter of fact, Brazilians call gringo no matter your nationality. I'm Latino and they call me gringo because I look like an extranger.
I don't get too hung up on trying to learn perfect Portuguese. It isn't like I am ever going to be a considered a Brazilian anyway. No matter what kind of shirt I wear.
I speak close to fluent Spanish so I mix it with Portuguese and speak "portunol" which works great for me at bars, restaurants and everywhere else. Usually, I tell the speaker if they are speaking English to speak Portuguese so I can get better at understanding it.
The use of credit cards (debit cards too) in Brazil is a push button issue for me, as you can see. I don't believe it's a good idea to rely upon them heavily there for the reasons I've already stated. ..You can just pay with your phone or contactless. The issues you think you have are not really there.
I didn't. Hey, have some ambition! LOL!I am just having fun with The Cane. I don't think The Cane would mind. I can easily match The Cane in number of days that The Cane can't even see how far ahead I am. LOL.
I have found a significant amount of Paulistanos (SP Brasilians) understand and speak English. ....The casher in Takkø Café speaks English. The clerk in cellular accessory store near Paulista station speaks Englsih. I thought that was it. But then one clerk asked "Would you like something to drink?" at Sabores de Maria.
I have the T-Mobil Magenta Unlimited 55 plan which costs $50/ month for 1 phone or $30/ month per phone for 2 or more phones. The plan works automatically upon arrival in Brazil, however, download internet speeds are incredibly slow. Of course, WiFi in most 4* & 5* hotels is fast and reliable, but in a bar or restaurant speeds are low and asking for WiFi pw's gets to be a pain in the ass. T-Mobil has a solution for this problem. They call it their International Pass. It costs an additional $50/ month, but you will never complain about slow download speeds in Brazil again.For T-Mobile, you can get better download speed by adding on MAXup data to your Magenta Unlimited Plan for an additional $15 a month. Then of course they have several one-time international passes you can get at various price tiers. I've found that just maxing up on the data is good enough for me.
I can easily match you in number of days that you can't even see how far ahead I am. LOL.I'll give you that in terms of overall number of days. All I can say is. Wait until I retire. Hehehe.
Vagabundo1
08-04-22, 00:00
"Absorb what is useful. Reject what is useless. Add what is essentially your own. ".
At BruceLeeLegacy.
I don't get too hung up on trying to learn perfect Portuguese. It isn't like I am ever going to be a considered a Brazilian anyway. No matter what kind of shirt I wear.
I speak close to fluent Spanish so I mix it with Portuguese and speak "portunol" which works great for me at bars, restaurants and everywhere else. Usually, I tell the speaker if they are speaking English to speak Portuguese so I can get better at understanding it.
You can just pay with your phone or contactless. The issues you think you have are not really there.This article from February 2022 states that only 1 quarter of all payments in Brazil are contactless (might be higher in a big city like Sao Paulo or Rio). But, I would like to see that overall percentage go much, much higher (like to 3 quarters) before I'm ready to get out of cash in Brazil: https://labsnews.com/en/news/business/contactless-payments-skyrocket-credit-card-transactions/. Here in the States (and especially once the pandemic started), payment by contactless credit cards has become ubiquitous, and I rely on far less cash in the States than I used to. Brazil is moving in the right direction.
Hi Sperto,
Pain is so close to pleasure. Like the song of the late Freddy Mercury jajajaja Sometimes o "papai mamae" is kind of boring.
Attached original pics of two of a kind from Brazil.
You really know how to treat women. You must be their favourite customer.
EverythingBlue
08-04-22, 01:51
When I was planning a business trip in South America, I did what we all do: Search for the flight.
Among the long list of options shown by Latam Airlines, I found one that let me do an 10 hour stop in Guarulhos. The perfect time-lapse for a very audacious pit stop. Oh yeah, adrenaline rushed into my vains, also because it was one of the cheapest options (happy face).
My scale arrived at 7 pm in Guarulhos, my luggage was already checked until final destination so nothing to worry about. I went straight to the taxi booth and called a taxi to. Caf Photo.
Almost 1 Hour taxi crossing entire Sao Paulo, checked in Caf Photo and saved my briefcase in the "guarda volumens" and straight to the bar upstairs. And yes, I found a brunette that caught my eye (later she told me she was in Dubai few weeks before). I told her to help us find a friend and she called another brunette that looked lovely with long long hair, and she was a true beginner. It was her last year of university. After having spent around 3 hours in the club, we all three headed to Asturias motel.
First round with the Dubai brunette, the rookie did not make part of the action, she was sitting staring at us smoking a cigarette, a bit reluctant to see us fucking. I finished with the Dubai brunette and we all talked for few minutes until my dick was hard again.
Then it came the time for the student brunette. She was dressing a black blouse that had a lovely cleavage, and a pair of loose silk pants that showed the curves of her ass. She was white and smooth, really classy.
I called her to me and she stood next to the bed, I slowly took those pants off and then her underwear. I laid her down on the bed and rose her legs up pointing to the ceiling. I did not give her much time to get wet and I simply penetrated her. She made a sound of pain, her legs were on my shoulders, I approached my trunk to her, posing all my weight on her, I kissed her I stuck my dick until the very end. Deep inside her, and fucked her in that position until I came. When I pulled my condom there was a bit of blood on it. It was a great feeling.
The brunette student was the first to leave the motel when her uber arrived. The Dubai brunette told me to give her a lift (carona) to her house that was on the way to Guarulhos.
Everything costed around Reals 2500 plus the tax for reentering the airport. I continued my flight with no delay. In peace ready for work.
My next flight may have two pit stops. One in Buenos Aires and the second in Rio / SP. Those cheap flights are fantastic for pit stops.
Time on pics:
15:51 leaving Buenos Aires Ezeiza.
19:01 Arriving Sao Paulo.
19:54 Taxi from airport to club.
20:43 Club.
00:13 Arriving to the motel.
01:45 last round.
02:39 Calling our taxi.
02:48 Taxi arrives when talking on the bed.
03:30 near to Guarulhos.
End of pit stop.Awesome report and time stamps. I enjoyed reading the play by play of your action, sometimes you can't wait for them to get wet, I spit if I have to but when it needs to go in it needs to go in LOL.
How do you approach the girls to get all the action on camera? You negotiate each time using google translate? Sometimes I wonder if it's only a North America thing where girls are so camera shy, I haven't faced this in Colombia or Brazil yet.
I can't wait to go back to SP and check if my credit cards work LOL. Just kidding, cash is king dammit!
I don't get too hung up on trying to learn perfect Portuguese. It isn't like I am ever going to be a considered a Brazilian anyway. No matter what kind of shirt I wear 😜.
Are you sure? Have you tried the Vasco shirt and bombeiro khaki pants/shorts combo?
I speak close to fluent Spanish so I mix it with Portuguese and speak "portunol" which works great for me at bars, restaurants and everywhere else. Usually, I tell the speaker if they are speaking English to speak Portuguese so I can get better at understanding it.
But seriously, w/r to Portuñol, here's a decent channel recommend by a another BM, to avoid those Portuguese/Spanish homonyms and other faux pas.
Don’t Speak Portuñol! False Friends Portuguese/Spanish: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dTNnpnd8lo
Axel Heyst
08-04-22, 12:54
For T-Mobile, you can get better download speed by adding on MAXup data to your Magenta Unlimited Plan for an additional $15 a month. Then of course they have several one-time international passes you can get at various price tiers. I've found that just maxing up on the data is good enough for me.Thanks for the tip. I will try T-Mobil MaxUp first when I return to SP in October. I can always upgrade to T-Mobil's International Pass if MaxUp is not fast enough for my needs. I just hate waiting and waiting for internet pages to load with the T-Mobi's basic service in foreign countries. In the USA Magenta Unlimited's speed is excellent.
TedFerguson
08-04-22, 16:09
Went to Cafe Photo around 9 pm on Wednesday. Definitely more girls than on Saturday, including a few options which looked good. Upon closer inspection, one of the options had a huge butt / thighs which I don't like, the other option was taken by an older guy before I walked in, and the third option didn't quite have the right look in her eyes. Specifically, she didn't know how to make eye contact and generally seemed new to this. That and the crappy live music (much worse than the recorded stuff), and I decided not to risk it and leave.
Which leads me to my conclusions about Cafe Photo. It's a great place with a lot of potential, but a lot of the girls are new and they don't know how to behave properly yet. They don't know how to dress without looking uncomfortable in evening wear, or how to wear colors that don't emphasize the large, unbalanced posteriors common in Brazil. Only a few of the girls, older mostly, know how to make eye contact properly (and likely by extension how to talk with a man). This might be a good place if you're looking to find someone new, a diamond in the rough, but for me I think this place is a visit in a few months to see if it improves.
I went to Scandallo afterwards and was immediately overwhelmed by a different kind of problem, namely too many good options. This is the right kind of problem a place should have. I ended up seeing someone I met last week, having both excellent conversation in my broken Portuguese and a great time in the rooms. We agreed to see each other for lunch on the weekend. If she wasn't there that evening, there were at least 3-5 other decent looking options, a few of which probably wouldn't work out due to irreconcilable differences in personality. Scandallo remains a mostly sure bet (during Tuesday-Thursday).
Hi EverythingBlue,
Sure, if they are just random pictures of the place and not a portrait, I just say "can I take a picture?" (posso tirar uma foto? If you're going to make a shoot you'll need a talent's release or at least a simple receipt bill with the persons signature and 18+ ID (already verfied by hotel when check in). If you're going to make an entire week of productions, you'll need a contract for sure. Like we do.
It took almost 20 years to speak fluent portuguese. But my personal advice is to hear brazilian news all time, brazilian music in the background and read newspapers (it applies for the languages you're learning). I buy paper newspapers when I'm in Brazil so I can be up with the local news and have conversations with people.
By the way, brazilian polititians and local stars go very often to the clubs mentioned on ISG.
Awesome report and time stamps. I enjoyed reading the play by play of your action, sometimes you can't wait for them to get wet, I spit if I have to but when it needs to go in it needs to go in LOL.
How do you approach the girls to get all the action on camera? You negotiate each time using google translate? Sometimes I wonder if it's only a North America thing where girls are so camera shy, I haven't faced this in Colombia or Brazil yet.
I can't wait to go back to SP and check if my credit cards work LOL. Just kidding, cash is king dammit!
This article from February 2022 states that only 1 quarter of all payments in Brazil are contactless (might be higher in a big city like Sao Paulo or Rio). ...It's 100% everywhere that accept credit card in Sao Paulo because it is built into the device. The only place that I encountered an issue is All Sabor Gastronmico across from Uruguaiana metro station in Rio. They have the machines but the wireless reception is bad for some reason so they have to move around to get reception.
Are you sure? Have you tried the Vasco shirt and bombeiro khaki pants/shorts combo?
But seriously, w/r to Portuol, here's a decent channel recommend by a another BM, to avoid those Portuguese/Spanish homonyms and other faux pas.
Dont Speak Portuol! False Friends Portuguese/Spanish: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dTNnpnd8loMaybe I need to try the combination you suggested 🤣129315;.
As far as speaking of other non-native languages, I have this problem even in my native Indian language. Living in the USA for 35+ years, I am now considered an outsider whenever I go to India. I know enough of the language to get around but never going to be considered a local no matter how much I brush up on it. Same with Spanish and Portuguese. But I feel that it is the attempt at speaking and trying to blend in that the locals appreciate. I try to communicate in their language as much as possible and sometimes, they will practice their English with me and we communicate in two languages.
Those websites have similar format and might be run by the same operator.
For those that have used them, are they reliable with accurate pictures?
https://escortgirlbrazil.com.br/
https://escortsvogue.com/
https://myescortgirls.com.br/
Thanks in adavnce.
Gabbarsing
08-04-22, 22:09
Hi guys,
I have been hearing good hype about Renaissance. Is it worth it? Last time I stayed at San Mercure Ibirapuera and that worked out just fine with half the price of Renaissance.
Also. Just in general, what are the best ways to find cheaper hotel deals for place like Renaissance?
While I am exploring stay options, how about staying at Airbnb near Renaissance and just go to Renaissance for drinks and get the goodies there? Are Airbnb's safe and easy to find GF friendly? Airbnb's are like dirt cheap -- 60 USD per night.
I edited a short FullHD video of a very representative room from a Sao Paulo classy hotel. Lets call it, the battlefield.
It has the original audio from the moment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ20o1VqhxE
Hope it takes you to the place.
SamaRiding
08-05-22, 01:23
Those websites have similar format and might be run by the same operator.
For those that have used them, are they reliable with accurate pictures?
https://escortgirlbrazil.com.br/
https://escortsvogue.com/
https://myescortgirls.com.br/
Thanks in adavnce.Never heard of these sites before and I've done my homework before. These looks scams to me. Try mclass, private55, clubmodel. Those are fairly legit.
Hi guys,
I have been hearing good hype about Renaissance. Is it worth it? Last time I stayed at San Mercure Ibirapuera and that worked out just fine with half the price of Renaissance.
Also. Just in general, what are the best ways to find cheaper hotel deals for place like Renaissance?
While I am exploring stay options, how about staying at Airbnb near Renaissance and just go to Renaissance for drinks and get the goodies there? Are Airbnb's safe and easy to find GF friendly? Airbnb's are like dirt cheap -- 60 USD per night.
Let me be honest. If you are happy with the the Mercure or an AirBnB, then choose that option. There is nothing exciting about the Renaissance unless you have status with Marriott which gets you lounge access and even then I wouldn't get too excited about that. The "goodies" are also not worth paying for. They charge absurd rates because they cater to the gringos. If you can stay around that area, it is a good safe area at night and has lots of places to eat and drink.
Save the cash for the hotel and use at clinicas or Scandello. Only reason I stay at the Renaissance is to maintain my elite status and the company pays for my rooms.
FlowState985
08-05-22, 07:00
Hi guys,
I have been hearing good hype about Renaissance. Is it worth it? Last time I stayed at San Mercure Ibirapuera and that worked out just fine with half the price of Renaissance.
Also. Just in general, what are the best ways to find cheaper hotel deals for place like Renaissance?
While I am exploring stay options, how about staying at Airbnb near Renaissance and just go to Renaissance for drinks and get the goodies there? Are Airbnb's safe and easy to find GF friendly? Airbnb's are like dirt cheap -- 60 USD per night.Some Airbnb in SP are within a hotel, so you get lower rate with security. If you look around and see the pictures of the Airbnb, you will see similar pictures of the hotels. As far as girl friendly, you have to ask the host. Some will say no visitor on their ads, some doesn't say.
Gabbarsing
08-05-22, 07:13
Some Airbnb in SP are within a hotel, so you get lower rate with security. If you look around and see the pictures of the Airbnb, you will see similar pictures of the hotels. As far as girl friendly, you have to ask the host. Some will say no visitor on their ads, some doesn't say.Overall did you find airbab safe?
Axel Heyst
08-05-22, 14:51
Never heard of these sites before and I've done my homework before. These looks scams to me. Try mclass, private55, clubmodel. Those are fairly legit.Yeah, girls that advertise on the legit sites like mclass, private55, clubmodel, and I would add to the bonafide list Barra Vips, charge more than girls advertising on the cheap bargain sites. Sometimes a lot more, KKK. For example, 2 stunners that I reached out to on ClubModel asked for 1500 br. They were drop dead gorgeous, but I punted.
The main advantage of the higher end quality sites is that you will never have a bait & switch or have a girl drop by that you cannot recognize from her promotion pics. Most girls on the legit sites will ask between 500 br and 700 br unless they are pretty spectacular and thus in super high demand. On my last trip to SP, I arranged a date with one pretty MClass girl. Her price was 500 br at her apartment. The session was great. She was a very friendly girl. On looks, she was a little older than her picks, but obviously the same girl. I knew that would most likely be the case when she quoted me 500. KKK.
So, I prefer to meet my girls in the boates where there is a wide selection and I can check the girls out in person and test drive them before making any commitments beyond buying them a drink. Many quality call girls show up at the boates when they have no customers online. That is how I met an attractive ClubModel branca one night at Bomboa. Her price was 700 br at Bomboa and she was worth it. After our first in-house session we met several more times at my hotel and on our last session together she brought over a girlfriend, and we enjoyed a true bisexual 3 way. You can try to set things like that up on the internet, but it won't work out as great if you don't get to know the girls in person first.
I have both Google Fi and T-Mobile but I also get local SIM. It appears 5 G is available in part of the city. The higher download speed is 5 G, and the lower one is WiFi.
I have both Google Fi and T-Mobile but I also get local SIM. It appears 5 G is available in part of the city. The higher download speed is 5 G, and the lower one is WiFi.Which network offers the 5 G speed? I usually the airalo app for data only eSIM while travelling and was wondering if their 5 G eSIM would work.
Never heard of these sites before and I've done my homework before. These looks scams to me. Try mclass, private55, clubmodel. Those are fairly legit.They look too good to be true, but who knows.
Hopefully, someone has tried them and will report.
I had already noted the ones that you listed, thank you.
Which network offers the 5 G speed? I usually the airalo app for data only eSIM while travelling and was wondering if their 5 G eSIM would work.Tim. The chip package says 4 G but the network showed up as 5 G in some places and I checked the speed is 5 G. I had Airalo but it's way overpriced.
What service is the 5 g photo on? That is very fast.
I have both Google Fi and T-Mobile but I also get local SIM. It appears 5 G is available in part of the city. The higher download speed is 5 G, and the lower one is WiFi..
What service is the 5 g photo on? That is very fast.
.It's TIM prepaid. The coverage is quite good. This one is even more impressive.
This article from February 2022 states that only 1 quarter of all payments in Brazil are contactless ...Here I risked my phone being robbed to take picture of the street vendor credit card device near Centro. Also you should google EMV. It is amusing to read you boast your extensive past knowledge, haha. I expect you to return the favor.
EverythingBlue
08-06-22, 01:33
Here I risked my phone being robbed to take picture of the street vendor credit card device near Centro. Also you should google EMV. It is amusing to read you boast your extensive past knowledge, haha. I expect you to return the favor.So credit cards work there then? What if my card gets skimmed! Surely my credit card company won't allow me to dispute a street vendor! Cash is king!
Here I risked my phone being robbed to take picture of the street vendor credit card device near Centro. Also you should google EMV. It is amusing to read you boast your extensive past knowledge, haha. I expect you to return the favor.To the ounce! Needing to pronounce on all that I announce! Methinks that soon I'll need to pounce on Nounce! And convince him to renounce! Lest he get bounced! Glad you keep keeping me in your membrane bro. But at the end of the day, I don't give a "swipe" what you choose to do. Tap away! You do you. And I'll do me.
Visa Electron works with most stores and street vendors. Use a debit card with limited amount of balance, so if it gets skimmed or cloned, you won't lose too much.
Credit cards, only in formal clubs and boates. But as you say, cash is king in terms of privacy, otherwise very funny business names will be shown in your monthly report.
So credit cards work there then? What if my card gets skimmed! Surely my credit card company won't allow me to dispute a street vendor! Cash is king!
So credit cards work there then? What if my card gets skimmed! Surely my credit card company won't allow me to dispute a street vendor! Cash is king!The principal reason why I'm in Brazil is to monger. And the currency of prostitution is cash. Not a contactless credit card hahaha! I suppose if you want some sausage from a street vendor OK LOLOLOL! But I'm there to fuck! And when you fuck a tute, the only thing you're "tapping" is that ass! And then you settle up by paying cash for that gash! Bucks for the fucks! Quid for the quim! Dough for the ho! And a peso for that queso!
Holy. Can't believe its faster than tmobile 5 g and verizon that I have been using in the US. I am only able to get about 200 mbps max in the USA with these. Most of the time its about 100 mpbs. 100 is sufficient for me though.
I also get the TIM prepaid when I'm in Brazil. Its 15 reais with the sim and will last me a week.
It's TIM prepaid. The coverage is quite good. This one is even more impressive.
Vagabundo1
08-06-22, 05:23
Well said, senor nounce! Thanks for the up to date information.
On a broad subject, on the topic of using cards for payment, there is a book, "the future of money" that I need to listen to / read.
https://www.amazon.com.br/Future-Money-Revolution-Transforming-Currencies/dp/0674258444
Here I risked my phone being robbed to take picture of the street vendor credit card device near Centro. Also you should google EMV. It is amusing to read you boast your extensive past knowledge, haha. I expect you to return the favor.
To the ounce! Needing to pronounce on all that I announce! Methinks that soon I'll need to pounce on Nounce! And convince him to renounce! Lest he get bounced! Glad you keep keeping me in your membrane bro. But at the end of the day, I don't give a "swipe" what you choose to do. Tap away! You do you. And I'll do me.BTW, I paid cash. LOL.
To the ounce! Needing to pronounce on all that I announce! Methinks that soon I'll need to pounce on Nounce! And convince him to renounce! Lest he get bounced! Glad you keep keeping me in your membrane bro. But at the end of the day, I don't give a "swipe" what you choose to do. Tap away! You do you. And I'll do me.
Now that was funny! (...kkkk!)
Who knew we had a resident poet, that could rhyme à la Dr. Seuss....Very IMPRESSIVE!
Do me, do me next...kkkk!
And this one:
The principal reason why I'm in Brazil is to monger ... And then you settle up by paying cash for that gash! Bucks for the fucks! Quid for the quim! Dough for the ho! And a peso for that queso!
So credit cards work there then? What if my card gets skimmed! Surely my credit card company won't allow me to dispute a street vendor! Cash is king!Does anybody said one has to always use credit card? I thought the conversation is more about whether it is safe to use credit card.
The cards with chip are harder to clone. The problem is more about buggy software at the bank. Look at the data breach in US and tell me US is safer than Brasil?
Vagabundo1
08-06-22, 13:16
Senor Nounce, very useful, thanks very much!
BTW, I paid cash. LOL.
FlowState985
08-07-22, 07:49
Does anybody said one has to always use credit card? I thought the conversation is more about whether it is safe to use credit card.
The cards with chip are harder to clone. The problem is more about buggy software at the bank. Look at the data breach in US and tell me US is safer than Brasil?Honestly, I feel like because so many reports of CC skimming in Brazil that they have wireless POS and bring to you table side when you pay for a meal, so you actually see it is being used in person. This is quite convenient because you ask for the check, the waiter brings the check and the POS device.
Honestly, I feel like because so many reports of CC skimming in Brazil that they have wireless POS and bring to you table side when you pay for a meal, so you actually see it is being used in person. This is quite convenient because you ask for the check, the waiter brings the check and the POS device.I am obsessed with this topic now. LOL My latest discovery is that many locals are probably using debit cards because I started to notice they are entering information on the device. A few days ago, I even have to tell the TIM vendor that my US credit card doesn't have a PIN when he insisted that I input something on the device.
One Eyed Man
08-07-22, 18:28
I am obsessed with this topic now. LOL My latest discovery is that many locals are probably using debit cards because I started to notice they are entering information on the device. A few days ago, I even have to tell the TIM vendor that my US credit card doesn't have a PIN when he insisted that I input something on the device.Most countries (outside of the US) use debit / credit cards with a chip card where the customer enters the PIN number, which offers a good level of security.
I had my ATM card cloned at a large-bank ATM at the Ibirapuera shopping center (there was a bank of ATMs in a lobby next to the bank), so I would try to find ATMs that are inside the bank proper. Mr. Enternational uploaded a photo of a ready-made ATM front panel that can be placed over the proper one for the purpose of card skimming. (See prior discussion.).
Gabbarsing
08-07-22, 19:56
Can someone point me to a report or link where can I get Brazil number while in USA? I am sure this must have been discussed before. From online search, AFAIK. Google fi won't give me Brazil number while doing sub from USA.
I keep my Schwab debit card locked until I am ready to use the ATM, then lock it immediately afterwards. This mitigates the risk of skimming because the chances that the skimmer will try to use the card during the <5 m a day the card is active is very low. Fraud protection on Schwab cards is pretty good, and the biggest problem I've had before I adopted this procedure is having my card locked due to fraud while I'm traveling. By locking the card, I don't have to worry about fraudulent charges causing a security hold on my card.
Well said, senor nounce! Thanks for the up to date.So, if Sperto says it, he's providing good advice based upon his vast knowledge and experience? But if I say the same things, I'm removed from reality? An outdated guide a decade old is to be celebrated. But if I cite an article from the year 2022 noting that currently only a quarter of credit card transactions in Brazil are contactless, that's somehow illegitimate because one can post a photo of a street vendor who accepts credit cards (which proves exactly what anyway)? I guess not much since the OP paid cash LMAO!
I point out that the same article states that contactless transactions are growing exponentially in Brazil. If and when it gets to where it is in the States, then I would be willing to use credit cards in Brazil more. But from a pure practical standpoint, I will always be a heavy cash user in Brazil because mostly what I'm buying is buceta and cuzinha, and that's all about cash for gash baby! Oh, but I guess all of Nounce's tutes are accepting payment by contactless credit cards now hahahahaha!
One Eyed Man
08-07-22, 22:06
I keep my Schwab debit card locked until I am ready to use the ATM, then lock it immediately afterwards. This mitigates the risk of skimming because the chances that the skimmer will try to use the card during the <5 m a day the card is active is very low. Fraud protection on Schwab cards is pretty good, and the biggest problem I've had before I adopted this procedure is having my card locked due to fraud while I'm traveling. By locking the card, I don't have to worry about fraudulent charges causing a security hold on my card.Unfortunately, that only works for the card above (I. E. , with a checking account.) It doesn't work for the normal Schwab One Visa Debit Card like I have.
I keep my Schwab debit card locked until I am ready to use the ATM, then lock it immediately afterwards. This mitigates the risk of skimming because the chances that the skimmer will try to use the card during the 5 m a day the card is active is very low. Fraud protection on Schwab cards is pretty good, and the biggest problem I've had before I adopted this procedure is having my card locked due to fraud while I'm traveling. By locking the card, I don't have to worry about fraudulent charges causing a security hold on my card.I have a Schwab debit card that I learned about on this site years ago. It's served me well overseas, and has indeed become the ISG monger's card of choice. Don't go overseas (and buy any pussy) without it! Ha!
The WISE card actually has better exhcange rates but its limited in the long run compared to Schwab. If you're going to Scandallo everyday then Schwab is probably best. Good to have both.
Pix is the venmo / cashapp of Brazil and everyone has it it there.
I have a Schwab debit card that I learned about on this site years ago. It's served me well overseas, and has indeed become the ISG monger's card of choice. Don't go overseas (and buy any pussy) without it! Ha!
... but I guess all of Nounce's tutes are accepting payment by contactless credit cards now hahahahaha!I pay cash for privacy when necessary or the cheaper method. I am not a stubborn guy. LOL.
I just found out today that Speedtest gobbled up all my data that I ended up without data when I needed it. It also used up battery much faster so use it with caution. This reminds me why the TIM store I went to in Higienpolis wanted to sell me an unlimited plan that costs are $ 210.
Vagabundo1
08-08-22, 06:45
Senor nounce.
As senor sperto says ignore the chatos (boring). You are actually in Brazil!
I pay cash for privacy when necessary or the cheaper method. I am not a stubborn guy. LOL.
Can someone point me to a report or link where can I get Brazil number while in USA? I am sure this must have been discussed before.....Maybe you can ask VB1.
...get your Brazilian number (PM me, and I can set you up on whatsapp remotely)....
There are a few decent freelancers at Miruna now. I guess free in the attached lineup means freelancer. One is Bianca, a voluptuous spinner, hehe, check her out. Most clinica girls are a little rough in appearance. Bianca is more refined. My taste is a little different, and that maybe one reason I did not see any 10 or 9 at Scandallo. Her service is good. Keep in mind this is from my point of view so it is YMMV. You should be able to see her picture in Miruna WhatsApp lineup. My guess is that it's better to make an appointment because she does not work everyday and appears to be popular so you won't see her in the line up if you don't wait. I just ran into her by accident because I was waiting in the lobby and she did not appear in the WA lineup that day.
The reviews of a few clinicas like Prime are not available from gp-guia publicly now but you can still use your forista discount.
There are a few decent freelancers at Miruna now. I guess free in the attached lineup means freelancer. One is Bianca, a voluptuous spinner, hehe, check her out. Most clinica girls are a little rough in appearance. Bianca is more refined. My taste is a little different, and that maybe one reason I did not see any 10 or 9 at Scandallo. Her service is good. Keep in mind this is from my point of view so it is YMMV. You should be able to see her picture in Miruna WhatsApp lineup. My guess is that it's better to make an appointment because she does not work everyday and appears to be popular so you won't see her in the line up if you don't wait. I just ran into her by accident because I was waiting in the lobby and she did not appear in the WA lineup
The reviews of a few clinicas like Prime are not available from gp-guia publicly now but you can still use your forista discount.Thanks. I saw Bianca and a couple of other new garotas in the wassap lineup. Damn Miruna has upped their game.
My otel is within walking distance of Esporte Clube Sírio. I have been following tragic events. RIP.
Senor nounce.
As senor sperto says ignore the chatos (boring). You are actually in Brazil!The "chatos" travel to other locales (First Class) and plot their return to Riho as they watch their net worth (and mongering money) continue to get stacked high. Going to be a blowout the likes of which a wandering monger on a meager pension has never seen!
FlowState985
08-08-22, 19:00
The reviews of a few clinicas like Prime are not available from gp-guia publicly now but you can still use your forista discount.All the reviews for Prime, Chanes 57, Miruna, Enjoy Spa are off for now. Don't know the reason why.
All the reviews for Prime, Chanes 57, Miruna, Enjoy Spa are off for now. Don't know the reason why.A member of the whatsapp group said they are all owned by the same owner. Different clinicas gave different answer.
The "chatos" travel to other locales (First Class) and plot their return to Riho as they watch their net worth (and mongering money) continue to get stacked high. Going to be a blowout the likes of which a wandering monger on a meager pension has never seen!You know those things are totally unrelated and it sounds more like you are your own slave, right? You also know if it takes even longer for you to visit Brazil, you will become Bubba boy 2, right? BTW, from me that is a compliment, but I guess you don't see it the same way. hehe
You know those things are totally unrelated and it sounds more like you are your own slave, right? You also know if it takes even longer for you to visit Brazil, you will become Bubba boy 2, right? BTW, from me that is a compliment, but I guess you don't see it the same way. heheThe only one who is "enslaved" is you as you just can't let it go can you? Always having something to say about everything that I write. You yourself said that you were obsessed. I wasn't even talking to you. But you decided it was your obligation to weigh in on the matter. You know, first from the haters it was that I had never been to Brazil. Then when I started going, it was that I had not been to Brazil enough times. Then when I had been enough times, it was that I had not been to enough different places in Brazil. Then I started branching out going to other cities. And now, it's that I have not been to Brazil in too long a while. And each time, it (the vitriol) always ultimately blows up in the haters' hands! And so too shall it again.
So start laying the groundwork for a new smear campaign right now. What's next? Because you'll be needing something. Same old, same old (shrugs)! I travel where I want to when I want to. Just like Nancy Pelosi haha! So you take it as a compliment eh? Well, what other face-saving stance can you really take (rhetorical question)? Just understand that I'm rich bi**ch! Hahaha! And speaking of Bubble Butt Boy, when is Vagabundo going to update his seriously outdated guide, as he has spoken of doing before on multiple occasions? Well, we all know that will never happen as the man is both too lazy and too self-absorbed to ever accomplish such a thing, and much happier with boring us to death with his latest boastful exploits (while wearing his protective soccer shirts around town) LOLOLOLOL! Talk about some "chatos" LOL!
EverythingBlue
08-09-22, 01:46
I haven't been in SP since late last year, I'm heading back soon finally! Time to brush off my Portoespañol haha. I need to pick up a couple of 10's at Scandallo and pay them cash of course. Kkkk just trolling. In all seriousness, one downfall of paying CC in Scandallo is the fees.
One story about debit card issues. Last trip in November I went to pull out cash from a Bradesco ATM in Ave. Paulista near The Renaissance hotel, it was a around 5 pm. I still remember the exact ATM machine, I selected 2000 reals in mix of 100/50 bills, the machine acted like it was about to give out the cash then nothing. Whatever I moved to another machine, repeat and got my cash. Well, guess what? I was still charged the other 2000 reals. I was more focused on my trip then disputing anything at the time, so I let it be hoping it would drop off and the amount would be redeposited. I never called, I forgot since I had such a good time.
Fast forward to two months ago, I get a credit in my account for the amount. Got to love the banks working in slow motion LOL. I'm not sure what triggered the refund, but I still trust Bradesco after this hiccup, or maybe I should trust my credit union bank.
Anyways, I look forward to reacquainting myself with the ladies, and sharing my exploits. Señor Cane, your visit to SP is overdue, I could imagine the reports you'll provide ISG upon your return, you'll inspire the next generation of mongers, don't keep us waiting!
Bottom line, is it worth going to SP? Yes and no.
Comparing Medellin, Colombia to Sao Paulo. I have been to Medellin DOZENS of times over the past 8 years. I wanted to try something different as Medellin has become over-run with tourists / mongers. Areas that were fun to go to 5 years ago have turned into tourist rip of places because of the ignorant and boisterous. Just my opinion.
Beauty of woman: Overall the prettiest woman of the two countries is Colombia. During my almost 1 month stay in SP, the woman I saw on the streets, everyday woman, are of no comparison to the beauty of woman in Colombia. With that said, the working woman of both countries are fantastic.
Winner: Medellin.
Great report, Jet69. I am frequent visitor of Medellin as well and surprised to hear that you find women in Colombia more attractive than Sao Paulo.
It's just that Brazil offers so much more variety than typically long black hair Colombians.
And, share the same thoughts on Medellin what has became with too many gringos and mongers.
Personally, I choose Brazil since most all girls do CIM, BBBJ and anal as standard service where most Colombians wouldn't even offer BBBJ unless they session previously or pay a tip.
...One story about debit card issues. ...The ATM ran out of money. You are smart to change machine. LOL.
... where most Colombians wouldn't even offer BBBJ unless they session previously or pay a tip.That usually happens only in casa. I have not met a FB girl that does not do BBBJ. There is actually one that I choose not to date, but another member sessioned with her and got BBBJ without negotiation.
SamaRiding
08-09-22, 03:44
All the reviews for Prime, Chanes 57, Miruna, Enjoy Spa are off for now. Don't know the reason why.Yes these clinicas are owned by the same person. In the past on gpguia, clubs that violated some forum rules such as promoting fake or padded reviews were "punished" by a ban for a period of time. Not sure if that is what happened here. Also clubs and even individual girls can also request not to be listed on the site. I think that's why Scandallo is not on gpguia.
Was lucky enough to visit the city twice in last three months and here are some tips wanted to share.
ATM- Bradesco ATM opens at 6 am And closes at 10 pm. Arrived after 10 pm and ATM machines were shut off. They let you withdraw up to R2,500.
Scandallo- Entry fee is R200 before 7 pm And they will honor this even if you are late few minutes. And, this amount all goes to consumption. As many mentioned, best girls come between 10 pm To midnight but too many people on some weeknight such as Wednesday night.
Clinicas- Best time to visit is around 2 pm Where they are fully staffed. If you visit open time around 11 am, barely any girls will be available. Abbbora opens at noon.
Casarao- Became a huge fan of this place and many hot girls are available on Wednesday and Thursday. Noticed that Friday and Saturday talents drops off dramatically and open on Sundays. R50 cover charge and R100 to the club if you take the girls out. Only other interesting thing was girls offer half hour rate which was unusual.
Random: There is Olive Garden at Terminal 3 at GRU airport as well as in Panama airport.
SamaRiding
08-09-22, 03:52
All the reviews for Prime, Chanes 57, Miruna, Enjoy Spa are off for now. Don't know the reason why.I just found this posted on gpguia (google translated). Sounds like a dispute between the Forum admin and the clinicas.
For information,
At the moment we have collected the topic from several clinics.
I ask you to kindly not try to launch new ones, because they will have the destination of the trash.
Topics belong to the forum.
And not the houses.
Always good to make it clear.
Until much is clear, they won't come back any.
Time. Aggressive message posted by representative or forista defender of ruffian, and subject to banishment.
We know the size of our strength and importance.
To be despised by anyone.
GpGuia and GpGuia, always the first.
UniversalX
08-09-22, 04:17
Random: There is Olive Garden at Terminal 3 at GRU airport as well as in Panama airport.For those connecting at PTY (Tocumen International Airport) https://youtu.be/lVXmfPixynE (Terminal 1).
That usually happens only in casa. I have not met a FB girl that does not do BBBJ. There is actually one that I choose not to date, but another member sessioned with her and got BBBJ without negotiation.FB girls tend to offer BBBJ, CIM, anal, DATY, and much more. At least that has been my experience.
UniversalX
08-09-22, 05:03
GRU Express Train Downtown Sao Paulo.
https://youtu.be/oTxpRL3eTQc
https://youtu.be/faZFg472FV8
I took that train a few times but not sure if it is worth the time and hassle and traffic. It is pretty cheap though. 4. 5 reais from GRU to the metro.
It only goes every hour so if you missed it by a few minutes. Got to wait an hour.
Gets pretty packed.
From the airport got to take the shuttle to the station.
Takes about 30-40 minutes to get to metro luz from the station.
From luz. Fight and walk through the stampede to get to the train and go to whereever you have to go.
GRU Express Train Downtown Sao Paulo.
https://youtu.be/oTxpRL3eTQc
https://youtu.be/faZFg472FV8
That usually happens only in casa. I have not met a FB girl that does not do BBBJ. There is actually one that I choose not to date, but another member sessioned with her and got BBBJ without negotiation.
FB girls tend to offer BBBJ, CIM, anal, DATY, and much more. At least that has been my experience.Maybe with FB girls but generally from my experience, Colombian girls don't like BBBJ or have great oral skills.
Most of club girls from La Isla or Gusto wouldn't do it either.
Anyways, let's get back to SP.
So, if Sperto says it, he's providing good advice based upon his vast knowledge and experience? But if I say the same things, I'm removed from reality? An outdated guide a decade old is to be celebrated...
Senor nounce.
As senor sperto says ignore the chatos (boring). You are actually in Brazil!
The "chatos" travel to other locales (First Class) and plot their return to Riho as they watch their net worth (and mongering money) continue to get stacked high. Going to be a blowout the likes of which a wandering monger on a meager pension has never seen!
You know those things are totally unrelated and it sounds more like you are your own slave, right? You also know if it takes even longer for you to visit Brazil, you will become Bubba boy 2, right? BTW, from me that is a compliment, but I guess you don't see it the same way. hehe
So as not to clutter and offend the SP thread, "The chatos" (or the boring, according to some) and those that have the fortitude to actually speak for themselves and are not "puppet-ed" from the side lines, I will post/reply in the "Stupid Shit in Brazil".
This is with regards to much of the talk/fallout the conversation surrounding the Bwana Dik guide (aka.The Bubba Boy Guide) and perhaps clear up some misconceptions.
Apologies to my SP BM brethren, as I try to divert any further "dust-ups", to perhaps, a more "appropriate" thread.
Here is the link: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4045-Stupid-Shit-in-Brazil&p=2729852&viewfull=1#post2729852
Maybe with FB girls but generally from my experience, Colombian girls don't like BBBJ or have great oral skills...For newbies Brazil is better and easier. The mongering style in Colombia is different. You may need to adapt to get the best. I am not saying I get it but I know enough mongers who share knowledge so I know what they are getting. Go read the Medellin forum, they are talking about bluetooth speaker and bombillo. LOL How often in Brazil threads do we talk about music?
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Steve 9696
08-10-22, 17:20
For newbies Brazil is better and easier. The mongering style in Colombia is different. You may need to adapt to get the best. I am not saying I get it but I know enough mongers who share knowledge so I know what they are getting. Go read the Medellin forum, they are talking about bluetooth speaker and bombillo. LOL How often in Brazil threads do we talk about music?Having done both Medellin and So Paulo, SP def gets the nod. The clubs in Medellin can't hold a candle to SP boates. Las Isla is a bunch of plastic girls offering covered BJ at expensive prices. Nothing at all like Scandallo and covered BJ. Really?
That said, the FB girls can be inexpensive fun ($50) but I agree with Pussy Riot. The lack of good strong BBBJ with Colombian girls is noticeable. They seem to want to do a little to say they did it and then get to fucking. Save Andrea S who is the BBBJ master, I was very disappointed with the Standard of BBBJ in Medellin. YMMV of course.
Don’t get me wrong, there are gems everywhere— I ended up shacking up 24 hrs with Kerry who was a true gem GFE with real chemistry. Just saying the average dude (with money) will have more success with the SP scene.
Gabbarsing
08-10-22, 21:02
Hi Scandallo fellows.
I visited countless number of times during my last stay in SP back in Feb 2022. I am coming again next week. I have whatsapp number of many girls and can also recommend a few from what I have tried personally. I am willing to see like minded people who are willing to share whatspp number of gals and their set of recommendation.
Why am I doing this? - well one thing in Scandallo, that's less fun for me is the initial convo with girls (specially for someone like me who is using google translator) to filter initial requirements. So I would like to have a good head start if I have some potentials to go after.
DM me if interested.
Maybe with FB girls but generally from my experience, Colombian girls don't like BBBJ or have great oral skills.
Most of club girls from La Isla or Gusto wouldn't do it either.
Anyways, let's get back to SP.I disagree. Colombian girls can suck dick like there is no tomorrow, but you have to pick them at right places. I have been using SA exclusively in Colombia and have been getting BBBJ every single time. But you are right about La Isla, service there is all covered, BBBJ never happened to me. If you want BBBJ, stick to semi-pros and non-pros. SA, FB, Tinder, Instagram, etc. Casa girls, SW, club girls will always insist on CBJ unless you pay extra. In Brazil, chances of BBBJ at clinicas and termas are much higher, but not always guaranteed, YMMV.
I disagree. Colombian girls can suck dick like there is no tomorrow.It was the Colombiana who altered my whole notion of what a blowjob could be. I mean that shit went from the prelims to being the main event! I realized that I had never had my dick sucked good until the Latina got on my junk, and the first Latinas to do it right were the Colombians, the pleasure of which I first discovered in Costa Rica. Colombians know how to deliver some high-quality "cranium", and I'm not joking!
FlowState985
08-11-22, 00:31
For newbies Brazil is better and easier. The mongering style in Colombia is different. You may need to adapt to get the best. I am not saying I get it but I know enough mongers who share knowledge so I know what they are getting. Go read the Medellin forum, they are talking about bluetooth speaker and bombillo. LOL How often in Brazil threads do we talk about music?LOL, probably be / see most of us doesn't like Brazilian music and it is not widespread like Reggaeton, or latin music. Even Biden got in the action with Despacito to drum up votes with the Latin community.
I went to Scandallo, and eventhough the place is great and beautifully setup, the music sucks. I think they play mostly Sertanejo. I went to Casarao and enjoyed it more. The place is small, but about the size of majority of clubs in US, with hip hop, reggaeton, etc.
... But you are right about La Isla, service there is all covered, BBBJ never happened to me. ...My first BBBJ in Medellin was at La Isla. I think I was lucky because I went there not knowing they don't normally do BBBJ and there were very few customers. My next visit was with Colombia businessmen and we all got BBBJ. I got BBBJ the majority of the time. My last visit was much harder but I still got it with a big tip that was the girl's condition.
It was the Colombiana who altered my whole notion of what a blowjob could be. I mean that shit went from the prelims to being the main event! I realized that I had never had my dick sucked good until the Latina got on my junk, and the first Latinas to do it right were the Colombians, the pleasure of which I first discovered in Costa Rica. Colombians know how to deliver some high-quality "cranium", and I'm not joking!If you go the Medellin and do it like they talk about, that is the experience you will get.
The difference is the Brasileiras can be spectacular the first time without much effort. Last night I had a hot 18 yrs college freshman in Scandallo drooling all over my dick. It looked as if I already came when I looked down because her saliva was all over. She was so hot that I am still smiling just thinking about it. I got the number of another 19 yrs old who will be in Medellin later so I am going to meet her there and pay Medellin rate, hehe.
Earlier I got attacked by 2 other Scandallo girls. Next time in the same situation I am going to ask the girl to give me a blowjob right on the couch 😛. I wonder which Steve they were talking about 😦.
If you go the Medellin and do it like they talk about, that is the experience you will get.
The difference is the Brasileiras can be spectacular the first time. Last night I had a hot 18 yrs college freshman in Scandallo drooling all over my dick. It looked as if I already came when I looked down because her saliva was all over. She was so hot that I am still smiling just thinking about it. I got the number of another 19 yrs old who will be in Medellin later so I am going to meet her there and pay Medellin rate, hehe.
Earlier I got attacked by 2 other hot girls. LOL. I wonder which Steve they were talking about 😦.I went to Medellin a lot. You see, I had a "paisa" girlfriend. And the "garotas" of Brazil? Yes, they even butt fuck on the first date whereas the Colombiana must really "like" you before she is ready to give up the "culito" hahaha! So, it requires several "dates" to get a Colombiana's culito LOL! This is a key difference between Colombia and Brazil that all "anal connoisseurs" must understand.
I was sitting on my table drinking a black russian, waiting very patient for my perfect pick and this lovely brunette showed up in the second floor with that ultra small miniskirt, velvet high heels and blouse with white stripes. She really knew how to catch my eye, she leaned on the balcony like watching the action on the first floor showing her great ass to me. I was hooked, so I called her, because in this club girls can't approach the clients.
She sat down right next to me. Yeah, we made click. She gave me a long lasting kiss on the chick before we talked. Instantly my dick got hard.
I told her I liked new things all the time, and so she did, so I proposed her to wear masks meanwhile we made it.
She loved the idea and we left the place.
The second round in my room was just incredible. She was wearing that Shreck mask LOL (kkkkkkk describes better) her legs open wide like an athlete on the couch and I pumped her from above with all my strenght, my hands holding her shoes from the heels and her legs super wide open. When I came it felt like a short circuit. I felt like having ran a sprint.
During the week we met two more times. She was truly intense.
Here a small clip from the battle field from the first masked night, after the action of course. You will see the Sao Paulo panoramic view at night.
A very relaxing place to have a smoke.
Enjoy.
https://youtu.be/LZS0FWIIStY
Steve Urkel.....I actually saw one who looks similar.
If you go the Medellin and do it like they talk about, that is the experience you will get.
The difference is the Brasileiras can be spectacular the first time without much effort. Last night I had a hot 18 yrs college freshman in Scandallo drooling all over my dick. It looked as if I already came when I looked down because her saliva was all over. She was so hot that I am still smiling just thinking about it. I got the number of another 19 yrs old who will be in Medellin later so I am going to meet her there and pay Medellin rate, hehe.
Earlier I got attacked by 2 other Scandallo girls. Next time in the same situation I am going to ask the girl to give me a blowjob right on the couch 😛. I wonder which Steve they were talking about 😦.
Mr. Cane,
Where did anyone post that "hardly anyone accepts" cash? I posted my trip report with my observations. I can't find the post where it was stated you can't use cash? Most, easily 95%, of transactions I observed were with a card. So if anyone is exaggerating the issue, it is you. We are just trying to inform the rest of us newbies on our observations and experiences. If your risk tolerance is low, knock yourself out with cash. In fact I pointed out some places the international card won't work and cash is a must. Bring backup of cards and cash.
Been a member and posting (rarely) here since 2005. Might be a newbie to Brazil but not a rookie, no offense intended, LMFAO.Pix is the new king in BR but only if you have BR bank. Can send money on Whatsapp but I've never tried. I never send girls pix because it sends a lot of personal info along with it so I rather not. I also never give them USD because that's just asking her to think of you as a gringo forever LOL.
In Scandallo you could pay for the girl at the their hotel with a credit card with a 10% fee but that does not work with some international cards for now, they told me it will change soon. They do take debit card. Scandallo is categorized as a restaurant and many US credit cards gets you 2-5% back which almost offsets the 6. 5% fee for a credit card transaction by the processor not by Scandallo.
Got bait and switched on Photoacom.
Stay away from Kamila in Bela Vista, very hot thin girl who had 1 GP review. I fell for it, should have known it was a bait job when she said she now only does outcalls in hotels. Chick who showed wasn't even close. I felt sorry for her as it wasn't her fault, and gave her 150 reis for her táxis.
Going to get some grub and hit Casarão around midnite.
Hope all are well.
Lonnie,
Cash will always be king.
https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2022-08-12/brazils-central-bank-chief-says-credit-card-will-cease-to-exist-soon
LOL. You didn't even read the article did you.
Cash will always be king.
https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2022-08-12/brazils-central-bank-chief-says-credit-card-will-cease-to-exist-soon
All the reviews for Prime, Chanes 57, Miruna, Enjoy Spa are off for now. Don't know the reason why.Yeah this was a bummer for me, maybe the owners pissed of the site proprietor. But I still had a good time at all the casas. My only average experience this round was with a new lady at Enjoy going by Eloa, although Amanda later made up for it at the same place. Amanda may have the most perfect stereotypical Brazilian body I have seen in awhile, pretty face, all feminine components in the right shape, size, and degree of succulence. And a very enthusiastic performer too.
Cash will always be king.
https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2022-08-12/brazils-central-bank-chief-says-credit-card-will-cease-to-exist-soonhttps://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazils-central-bank-chief-says-credit-card-will-cease-exist-soon-2022-08-12/
I want to apologize that I stink up this thread. I think it is the best with just a simple apology that means what it says without further explanation. I will do my part by keeping my mouth shut except reporting experience and information.
There is a bar downstairs with outdoor patio that I did not know. I have been wondering where many girls went before figuring this out after repeated visits. I said to myself. I am so dumb. LOL.
The entry cover without consumption is R30. You get 2 free beers or other drinks of equivalent value if you pay R50. That means you are paying R20 for the first two beers. This has been mentioned a few times here.
The cashier didn't give me detail of my drink orders when I paid. So at least ask the cashier the total before paying. They do make mistake sometimes. I always ordered the same drinks so I knew something was wrong when the total was much more than I paid before. I just let it go that one time.
I met several local expats that are not on ISG. They said the rate they pay for girls are usually R250 for half hour and R400 for an hour, and hotter girls would cost more. They are there to have sex and they didn't buy drinks when I was there.
I met some that don't do BBBJ or require persuasion to do it during negotiation so negotiate if you must have it before going to the room. I looked up member's post about it and found the information is already on here. This is kind of a surprise to me.
There are some food options late including a 24 HR dinner before the park. I was savoring the session I just had that I didn't want to go to sleep so I walked around eating food from the street vendors. The pictures are taken around 4 AM. The hot dog (R12) in front of the park is very good but it is more like a sandwich. The corn (10 R) is by the club. There are several other obvious places nearby that are still open at that time too.
Great report. Kudos for scoring a Fisha Rosa. More talked about than accomplished. I posted it as a report of distinction.Gents, it's a bit embarrassing showing my ignorance, but what the hell is a Fisha Rosa?
EverythingBlue
08-13-22, 22:42
There is a bar downstairs with outdoor patio that I did not know. I have been wondering where many girls went before figuring this out after repeated visits. I said to myself. I am so dumb. LOL.
There are some food options late including a 24 HR dinner before the park. I was savoring the session I just had that I didn't want to go to sleep so I walked around eating food from the street vendors. The pictures are taken around 4 AM. The hot dog (R12) in front of the park is very good but it is more like a sandwich. The corn (10 R) is by the club. There are several other obvious places nearby that are still open at that time too.I didn't check the upstairs last year I was there! LOL. I discovered the downstairs by mistake.
You forgot to mention if you paid for the hot dog with cash or credit card!? Seriously, who knew they would accept credit cards at street vendors? Only recent reports have showed this.
Vagabundo1
08-13-22, 23:17
No apologies necessary, Thank you.
Senor Nounce, You don't have anything to apologize for. Your actual in country on the ground reports are invaluable. Thank you.
I want to apologize that I stink up this thread. I think it is the best with just a simple apology that means what it says without further explanation. I will do my part by keeping my mouth shut except reporting experience and information.
No apologies necessary, Thank you.
Senor Nounce, You don't have anything to apologize for. Your actual in country on the ground reports are invaluable. Thank you.Leave it to VB1, to go spoil the moment for another ISGer and try to take the spotlight for himself, with these selfish and egotistic posts.
As again he further clutters up this SP thread, just like the RJ thread with his nonsense. Especially over something that could have easily been done via PM. Unbelievable!!!
So now I apologize, to the SP thread, for doing the exactly same thing.
Sorry!
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Nebulousity
08-14-22, 03:37
Gents, it's a bit embarrassing showing my ignorance, but what the hell is a Fisha Rosa?I believed it's a term for promo models, as in the ones who work at trade shows / fairs / fashion shows.
I didn't check the upstairs last year I was there! LOL. I discovered the downstairs by mistake.....I was told the top floor is for paid reservation.
...You forgot to mention if you paid for the hot dog with cash or credit card!? Seriously, who knew they would accept credit cards at street vendors? Only recent reports have showed this.I paid cash because you said so. LOL. The change is shown here. Then I was craving for a chicken soup in Centro that s R18 where I can spend the money. Haha. I asked them to put the soup together in the way I like it.
... Cash is king!On my way there, I hit the gold mine and found a cluster of vendors. This one has fried rice, which is very rare, for R13. I also paid cash. You can see the owner giving change back. Obviously, I was the only one ordered rice because the cook had to go buy eggs. Once my order was ready, I saw others pointing at my rice to order the same.
Gents, it's a bit embarrassing showing my ignorance, but what the hell is a Fisha Rosa?I think it is what he described. I was told Scandallo was crawling with them Friday night.
FlowState985
08-14-22, 05:18
There is a bar downstairs with outdoor patio that I did not know. I have been wondering where many girls went before figuring this out after repeated visits. I said to myself. I am so dumb. LOL.
It opens up when it gets too crowded on the main floor, usually after midnight. Also, if people want to see what the girl really looks like, you can bring her downstair be / see lighting is brighter than the main floor LOL.
There is a bar downstairs with outdoor patio that I did not know. I have been wondering where many girls went before figuring this out after repeated visits. I said to myself. I am so dumb. LOL.
The entry cover without consumption is R30. You get 2 free beers or other drinks of equivalent value if you pay R50. That means you are paying R20 for the first two beers. This has been mentioned a few times here.
The cashier didn't give me detail of my drink orders when I paid. So at least ask the cashier the total before paying. They do make mistake sometimes. I always ordered the same drinks so I knew something was wrong when the total was much more than I paid before. I just let it go that one time.
I met several local expats that are not on ISG. They said the rate they pay for girls are usually R250 for half hour and R400 for an hour, and hotter girls would cost more. They are there to have sex and they didn't buy drinks when I was there.
I met some that don't do BBBJ or require persuasion to do it during negotiation so negotiate if you must have it before going to the room. I looked up member's post about it and found the information is already on here. This is kind of a surprise to me.
There are some food options late including a 24 HR dinner before the park. I was savoring the session I just had that I didn't want to go to sleep so I walked around eating food from the street vendors. The pictures are taken around 4 AM. The hot dog (R12) in front of the park is very good but it is more like a sandwich. The corn (10 R) is by the club. There are several other obvious places nearby that are still open at that time too.Which day did you go? Curious to know if it's like Scandallo where Tue-Thu is best.
Gents, it's a bit embarrassing showing my ignorance, but what the hell is a Fisha Rosa?Ficha Rosa is a code used by some modeling agencies to designate models that are in the catalog (Book Rosa) who make luxury programs discreetly, whereas the ficha branca is used for models who do not provide sexual or escort services. Usually at events, fairs etc. https://www.dicionarioinformal.com.br/
Which day did you go? Curious to know if it's like Scandallo where Tue-Thu is best.I went several times and often I went very late so I don't remember exactly. I remember Sunday is slower because the bar in the back did not open.
Another member has mentioned it has younger crowd compared to Scandallo so they are not the same. The expats I met told me Friday is the best. I think Friday and Saturday are good, probably has many more girls than Scandallo based on my observation. The stripers and DJ don't start before midnight and last until after 4 AM but I don't remember if it is for everyday or not.
Sure Xpartan, in Brazil the word ficha refers to a distinctive element from a collection, in social terms. It's very easy to understand. Ficha may be translated as Token in English. Please correct if wrong.
For example, in the local news, you will hear "Ficha suja" referring to a politician that has legal issues. In the contrary, "ficha limpa" is the politician that can run in an election because he does not have legal issues.
As a member already said, in events "ficha branca" is the model / promoter that does not give after hour services, so a "ficha rosa" (being the rosa or pink the color of sensuality) refers to the model / promoter that will give those services in a very discreet way. Ficha Azul is the same for men who give after hour services, for men and women.
At brazilian events, there are such beauties, that they count on their own security staff, and if someone is trying to pull information, she's instructed to call her security. If that happens, the guy can consider himself kicked out of the event. Believe me, I saw that happen.
Local guys are all time asking for contact information from the promoters, trying to know who is a ficha rosa. Of course there are fair job proposals as well.
That being said, there are promo models that give their info to every single guy or woman. The same goes for Argentina, there are true jewels at events. I mean it. Racing events are the meca of these kind of breath taking models.
It can take lots time, patient and money to score one of these. Legendary creatures of god.
Together attached pictures of a model that counted on security, just see the guys trying to talk to her.
Can anyone recommend any civilian nightclubs? Luke a place to take a girl where they're not blasting shitty Scandallo sertenejo and dance the night away to reggaeton, modern pop, etc.
Visited Clinica Anavrin on Rua Batataes in Jardim Paulista based on scanning local intel last weekend. This was a rather unique experience.
Setup: it is located in an apartment complex, so you need to go through security to access it, which means you need a form of ID, or a copy it, in case they ask. It also means you need to book an appointment ahead of time, but this is easily done via Whasapp. After security you take an elevator to the 8th floor and proceed to the room your appointment specified.
The appointment: After initial contact they will send you a catalog of available providers, the pictures are accurate and show full face. You need to make your pick from the catalog and schedule with her, there is no physical lineup at the clinica. Overall very efficient front desk.
The experience: Standard shower and hygiene and then you proceed to your assigned room. Yes the rooms are not self contained (kind of like Bogota style, but classier). Unlike other clinicas in SP, here you start face down, I. E. , regular massage first like many joints outside Brazil. After about 30 min this transitions to a sensual body to body massage, and you have a choice of a premium happy ending (BBBJ inclusive) for R$200 or "custom" finish which includes FS for R$250. These fees are the totals you pay to the house, not just for the extras.
The BBBJ: My first time experiencing an inverted BJ, or whatever it is called. This is where she gives you head and licks the potatoes while you are on your stomach. I thoroughly enjoyed this, and it comes standard with every massage.
Useful intel: I saw two ladies on two different days, Ariel, a redhead, and Perola, a blond. Ariel was very good and GFE, but Perola took the art of sensual massage and GFE finish to a whole other level. And she is hot as hell, despite fake titties which I dislike. Loves what she does and is great at it. Luckily she was the last woman I saw before rushing to catch my flight. One more day in SP and I would have fallen in love.
Happy mongering my friends!
FlowState985
08-15-22, 07:02
Visited Clinica Anavrin on Rua Batataes in Jardim Paulista based on scanning local intel last weekend. This was a rather unique experience.
Setup: it is located in an apartment complex, so you need to go through security to access it, which means you need a form of ID, or a copy it, in case they ask. It also means you need to book an appointment ahead of time, but this is easily done via Whasapp. After security you take an elevator to the 8th floor and proceed to the room your appointment specified.
The appointment: After initial contact they will send you a catalog of available providers, the pictures are accurate and show full face. You need to make your pick from the catalog and schedule with her, there is no physical lineup at the clinica. Overall very efficient front desk.
From what I understand through whatsapp. They said you can ask for a line up, and they will present you one.
Ficha Rosa is a code used by some modeling agencies to designate models that are in the catalog (Book Rosa) who make luxury programs discreetly, whereas the ficha branca is used for models who do not provide sexual or escort services. Usually at events, fairs etc. https://www.dicionarioinformal.com.br/OK, not it makes sense. Thanks!
Sure Xpartan, in Brazil the word ficha refers to a distinctive element from a collection, in social terms. It's very easy to understand. Ficha may be translated as Token in English. Please correct if wrong.
For example, in the local news, you will hear "Ficha suja" referring to a politician that has legal issues. In the contrary, "ficha limpa" is the politician that can run in an election because he does not have legal issues.
As a member already said, in events "ficha branca" is the model / promoter that does not give after hour services, so a "ficha rosa" (being the rosa or pink the color of sensuality) refers to the model / promoter that will give those services in a very discreet way. Ficha Azul is the same for men who give after hour services, for men and women.
At brazilian events, there are such beauties, that they count on their own security staff, and if someone is trying to pull information, she's instructed to call her security. If that happens, the guy can consider himself kicked out of the event. Believe me, I saw that happen.
Local guys are all time asking for contact information from the promoters, trying to know who is a ficha rosa. Of course there are fair job proposals as well.
That being said, there are promo models that give their info to every single guy or woman. The same goes for Argentina, there are true jewels at events. I mean it. Racing events are the meca of these kind of breath taking models.
It can take lots time, patient and money to score one of these. Legendary creatures of god.
Together attached pictures of a model that counted on security, just see the guys trying to talk to her.Wow, thanks for all the details!
Sure Xpartan, in Brazil the word ficha refers to a distinctive element from a collection, in social terms. It's very easy to understand. Ficha may be translated as Token in English. Please correct if wrong.
For example, in the local news, you will hear "Ficha suja" referring to a politician that has legal issues. In the contrary, "ficha limpa" is the politician that can run in an election because he does not have legal issues.
As a member already said, in events "ficha branca" is the model / promoter that does not give after hour services, so a "ficha rosa" (being the rosa or pink the color of sensuality) refers to the model / promoter that will give those services in a very discreet way. Ficha Azul is the same for men who give after hour services, for men and women.
At brazilian events, there are such beauties, that they count on their own security staff, and if someone is trying to pull information, she's instructed to call her security. If that happens, the guy can consider himself kicked out of the event. Believe me, I saw that happen.
Local guys are all time asking for contact information from the promoters, trying to know who is a ficha rosa. Of course there are fair job proposals as well.
That being said, there are promo models that give their info to every single guy or woman. The same goes for Argentina, there are true jewels at events. I mean it. Racing events are the meca of these kind of breath taking models.
It can take lots time, patient and money to score one of these. Legendary creatures of god.
Together attached pictures of a model that counted on security, just see the guys trying to talk to her.There are many Scandallo girls that model at these car events, I've been with many of them and they usually ask for 2 k for the night.
Oh yeah, around 2000 Reales can be the price for such beauties. Plus all expenses, a dream night around 3000 - 3500.
Also saw them in bomboa, cafe photo and electronic parties.
I rather prefer one or two solid 9's 10's a month, more than a crazy quantity of 7's.
There are many Scandallo girls that model at these car events, I've been with many of them and they usually ask for 2 k for the night.
Those websites have similar format and might be run by the same operator.
For those that have used them, are they reliable with accurate pictures?
https://escortgirlbrazil.com.br/
https://escortsvogue.com/
https://myescortgirls.com.br/
Thanks in advance.https://myescortgirls.com.br/ is also listed on that website:
https://openadultdirectory.com/escorts/Brazil/
Oh yeah, around 2000 Reales can be the price for such beauties. Plus all expenses, a dream night around 3000 - 3500.
Also saw them in bomboa, cafe photo and electronic parties.
I rather prefer one or two solid 9's 10's a month, more than a crazy quantity of 7's.There is a website Ficha Rose Sao Paulo website, but a log in is needed:
https://ficharosasaopaulo.wordpress.com/
From what I understand through whatsapp. They said you can ask for a line up, and they will present you one.Good to know.
The pictures they send are accurate though, so an appointment is a good way to get the one you want.
Hi man, that site is clearly scam. Be aware from all those sites, there is nothing better than direct contact.
There is a website Ficha Rose Sao Paulo website, but a log in is needed:
https://ficharosasaopaulo.wordpress.com/
Those websites have similar format and might be run by the same operator.
For those that have used them, are they reliable with accurate pictures?
https://escortgirlbrazil.com.br/
https://escortsvogue.com/
https://myescortgirls.com.br/
Thanks in advance.Follow up on the above websites.
Suspicious number that is found on several of those websites: (11) 99106-6691.
Several girls listed with that number are very attractive, but I don't have a good feeling about it:
https://escortsvogue.com/fresh-escort-girl-near-avenida-paulista-samara-prada/
https://myescortgirls.com.br/escorts-in-sao-paulo/fresh-female-escorts-in-jardins-avenida-paulista-sp/
https://myescortgirls.com.br/brunette-escorts/get-ready-to-meet-lais-mulatta-11-99106-6691/
https://myescortgirls.com.br/escorts-in-sao-paulo/find-sao-paulo-escorts-online-today-at-my-escort-girls-like-babi-miller/
https://escortsvogue.com/busty-escort-girls-for-you-call-11-99106-6691/
https://myescortgirls.com.br/escorts-in-brazil/meet-now-beautiful-mulatto-escorts-in-sao-paulo/
https://myescortgirls.com.br/escorts-in-sao-paulo/luxury-escort-girl-in-every-aspect-by-nubya/
And many more.
I wished those were real, but it can't be that one booker is handling so many top talents.
From the information that you guys provided on this board, I believe that those are the safe and tested places in Sao Paulo:
https://clubmodel.com.br/
https://www.private55.com/acompanhantes-sp-sao-paulo
https://mclass.com
http://scandallolounge.com.br/
https://casaraoaugusta.com.br/
http://www.abbobora.com.br/
http://www.lotuslounge.com.br/
https://www.cafephoto.com.br/
https://bomboa.com.br/
WarmBlankets
08-17-22, 14:01
Follow up on the above websites.
Suspicious number that is found on several of those websites: (11) 99106-6691.
Several girls listed with that number are very attractive, but I don't have a good feeling about it:On post #14679 User Bearsi mentions private55, clubmodel, and splove are the 3 biggest escort sites in Sao Paulo. I would honestly just stick to those. They appear very professional and some of them you can even find the girls twitter or website to do further research. Thank you Bearsi!
https://www.private55.com/
https://clubmodel.com.br/
https://splove.com.br/
There are many Scandallo girls that model at these car events, I've been with many of them and they usually ask for 2 k for the night.A girl who is not a regular at the club told me that a group of special girls were asked to be present on a certain date by the owner. She still goes to school and works as a model.
She said one hour is not enough for us. You pay what you want for 2 h. Will X amount be ok for 3 h? I set the alarm to make sure she didn't stay over 2 h, She has superpower. I could not negotiate with her even if I wanted to 😋.
A girl, hot or not, that is regular to clubs is simply a GP, a girl that makes programa. That is, a ton of client's dicks a month into that pussy.
Ficha Rosa does not go to clubs. At least not officially LOL.
Another level, maybe bit ancient is Panicat. That's a girl who was on big media and gave after hour services. I heard it until the early 2010's.
SamaRiding
08-17-22, 23:53
From the information that you guys provided on this board, I believe that those are the safe and tested places in Sao Paulo:
https://clubmodel.com.br/
https://www.private55.com/acompanhantes-sp-sao-paulo
https://mclass.com
http://scandallolounge.com.br/
https://casaraoaugusta.com.br/
http://www.abbobora.com.br/
http://www.lotuslounge.com.br/
https://www.cafephoto.com.br/
https://bomboa.com.br/For the new guys who may not know, your list is a lot different venues mixed up. Clubmodel, mclass and private55 are websites for online girls who advertise. You meet up at their place if they have one or at your place. Bomboa, cafe photo, casarao and scandallo are night clubs, where you go to meet girls in person. You can go the on site rooms or have the girl go back to your place. Abbobora and lotus lounge are daytime clinicas. You session in the on site rooms. There are dozens of clinicas in SF. Search the forum for the most discussed ones.
A girl, hot or not, that is regular to clubs is simply a GP, a girl that makes programa. That is, a ton of client's dicks a month into that pussy.
Ficha Rosa does not go to clubs. At least not officially LOL.
Another level, maybe bit ancient is Panicat. That's a girl who was on big media and gave after hour services. I heard it until the early 2010's.https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panicats
You can still can see ads with 'panicat' style description.
From the information that you guys provided on this board, I believe that those are the safe and tested places in Sao Paulo:
https://clubmodel.com.br/
https://www.private55.com/acompanhantes-sp-sao-paulo
https://mclass.com
http://scandallolounge.com.br/
https://casaraoaugusta.com.br/
http://www.abbobora.com.br/
http://www.lotuslounge.com.br/
https://www.cafephoto.com.br/
https://bomboa.com.br/Barely scratches the surface of 'safe and tested'. Need to do a lot more homework.
On post #14679 User Bearsi mentions private55, clubmodel, and splove are the 3 biggest escort sites in Sao Paulo. I would honestly just stick to those. They appear very professional and some of them you can even find the girls twitter or website to do further research. Thank you Bearsi!
https://www.private55.com/
https://clubmodel.com.br/
https://splove.com.br/Happy to help! MClass and Barras Rio VIP has a SP version that work as well although you'll usually find the same girls from the other three on these anyways but you never know.
From the information that you guys provided on this board, I believe that those are the safe and tested places in Sao Paulo:
https://clubmodel.com.br/
https://www.private55.com/acompanhantes-sp-sao-paulo
https://mclass.com
http://scandallolounge.com.br/
https://casaraoaugusta.com.br/
http://www.abbobora.com.br/
http://www.lotuslounge.com.br/
https://www.cafephoto.com.br/
https://bomboa.com.br/This is a good list and I've tried them all and going to try them again in September! No funny business.
I would add.
-Moema Prime https://clinica-massagem-moema.negocio.site/.
-Enjoy Spa.
-Carinas.
-Miruna.
-Cherry https://www.clinicacherry.com.br/.
-SPA Lushness https://spalushness.com/.
-Friend House 57.
All clinicas.
I've yet to try cherry or spa lushness which I believe is new since I never saw it on my radar when I went in December and I searched around.
These two post are really provide the best tried and true places and I never had an issue with any of these places.
There are for sure a bunch of little prives and clinicas sprinkled around SP but these seem to have a good rooster of girls, nice rooms / beds and pretty nearby each other in the moema area.
Those looking for a reliable outcall on the cheap, I recommend this one: https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/ninfetinha-safadinha-jeitinho-namoradinha-vamos-id-v7w4b.
Good sensual GFE performer, very good BBBJ and massage skills, enough that I had a repeat. Looks better in person, slender and a bit tall, small ass though. Advertised age is accurate. Charges only $20 extra for taxi.
Great link, that serves to show the top quality ever ever. Solid 10's. Tall as runway models, super classy, hot as hell, cover of national fashion magazines (higher than Sexy Magazine).
Till now I have only scored up to Ficha Rosas. Panicats hope one day LOL.
Pictures attached of models from sexy magazine. I have wild fucked the girl from the center in the sambodromo.
I really had to ask for mercy under that shower jajajaja.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panicats
You can still can see ads with 'panicat' style description.
FlowState985
08-18-22, 22:14
Great link, that serves to show the top quality ever ever. Solid 10's. Tall as runway models, super classy, hot as hell, cover of national fashion magazines (higher than Sexy Magazine).
Till now I have only scored up to Ficha Rosas. Panicats hope one day LOL.
Pictures attached of models from sexy magazine. I have wild fucked the girl from the center in the sambodromo.
I really had to ask for mercy under that shower jajajaja.Damn you must have some game on top of means!
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panicats
You can still can see ads with 'panicat' style description.Estilo panicat in an ad means thick thighs, strong buttocks and most probably silicon tits.
Heading to Sao Paulo in September and I wanted to see any recommendation / best location between a new hotel in the city the JW Marriott or the Renaissance. I saw earlier postings about the Renaissance being a hook up place & girl friendly and wanted to see if this is still true?
Thanks.
Heading to Sao Paulo in September and I wanted to see any recommendation / best location between a new hotel in the city the JW Marriott or the Renaissance. I saw earlier postings about the Renaissance being a hook up place & girl friendly and wanted to see if this is still true?
Thanks.The Renaissance is very girl friendly and there are girls working at the lobby bar in the evenings till it closes. But I wouldn't recommend trying to hook up with them. They charge absurd rates.
Axel Heyst
08-19-22, 22:36
Heading to Sao Paulo in September and I wanted to see any recommendation / best location between a new hotel in the city the JW Marriott or the Renaissance. I saw earlier postings about the Renaissance being a hook up place & girl friendly and wanted to see if this is still true?
Thanks.Georgest, every SP hotel I have stayed at in SP is girl friendly, so no problem on that score. But I am assuming by your question, that you are a Marriott Bonvoy member looking for an upscale Marriott property in a good neighborhood relatively close to some nighttime action. If this is the case, then the JW should be last on your list. The JW location is just too far south. Fuck, it is past the Grand Hyatt and the Hyatt is a 40-minute ride to Scandallo at 9 pm. P.S. I like the Hyatt. I am a Hyatt member too. I am booked there on points once again on my upcoming trip.
But a decent nearby Marriott alternative is the Sheraton Hotel, which is in a better, more people-oriented casual neighborhood (ie more local bars and nearby restaurant cafes) plus the Sheraton is a lot cheaper than either the JW or the Renaissance. Don't get me wrong, I like the Renaissance. In fact, I am booked to stay there again too in October on the last of my Marriott points. 555. There are a lot of fine restaurants within walking distance of the Renaissance, and it is only a 20-minute Uber ride to Scandallo at 9 pm. Casarao is even closer. So, if you have the points or you have plenty of loose money in your pocket stay at the Renaissance. I am sure you will like it.
One last Bonvoy hotel you might consider is the 4. 5-star Marriott Executive Apartments Hotel. You can't use points at this hotel, but I booked a 1-bedroom apartment there for $95/ night for a week. No, it ain't Renaissance 5-star quality, but it is clean, and the rooms have balconies which are great for entertaining my sexy, little marijuanitas, and it is only 2 blocks from Bomboa, my 2nd favorite boate in SP.
Outside of the World of Marriott I like the Intercontinental (nearby the Renaissance and cheaper), the Hilton (across the street from the Sheraton). The Hilton has the best room service food in SP which is good to know on the nights you have company over. Also, the Sheraton and the Hilton are right across the street from the Gauguin Club which is sometimes well worth checking.
It is all up to you. I just can't believe SP 5-star hotel price inflation over the last 6 months. Room rates have gone up faster than the asking price of Scandallo tier one girls, and if I had to choose one or the other, I would always choose the girls.
SocratesNY
08-20-22, 04:19
If you are looking for Marriott hotels for hobbying, the Renaissance is by far the best mix of location / convenience, luxury and pricing.
It is centrally located to Moema for clinicas, higher end boates like Scandallo, Cafe Photo and Bamboa and fine dining restaurants. It is not super high end for a "5 star" hotel, but it is decent. The lounge spacious and their breakfast and happy hour spread is decent and their spa is top notch.
Their customer service is also friendly, helpful and discreet. They do have a few working girls at the lobby bar, but the ones I've seen did not interest me (more like 5's and 6's) so never inquired about pricing. But then again, I usually leave the hotel by 5 or 6 pm for drinks or dinner before painting the town and don't return until after 1 am at the earliest so probably never saw the best talent.
I stayed at the recently opened JW Marriott in July and found the place to be quite new and lovely, but still experiencing some growing pains as a new hotel (they took over the old Four Seasons). The breakfast spread is quite small at the restaurant, but the lounge is quite nice and well stocked (alcohol and red bull 24/7). The service was hit or miss. I don't mind the location too much as it isn't too far to Moema for clinicas or other boates in the heart of SP. Even when I go to Scandallo, it isn't too bad as I usually go to dinner in the Jardins or Itaim Bibi area before going to the boates.
With all that said, I would still prefer the Renaissance over the JW, unless you are working near the WTC or business area there. I also prefer the Grand Hyatt to the JW if you need to be in that area.
If you want a true 5 star hotel, you will have to go to Tivoli, Fasano, Emiliano, Hotel Unique or Rosewood. All of those are centrally located for hobbying and foodie purposes. I've stayed at all of those and my preference is either Fasano, Tivoli or Rosewood. You can also find some working girls at the Tivoli, both at their lobby bar and rooftop bar (Seen).
For true elegance, Palácio Tangará is probably the top hotel in Sao Paulo, but is pretty far away. More so than the JW Marriott. However, many of the guests there just take helicopters to other parts of the city.
Saw the live sex show that started around 4 AM, lasted about 15 minutes. Started with oral, condom on, doggie, reverse cowgirl, upside down doggie with legs in the air supported by hands on the floor, standing doggie, oral again. I don't know if this is a regular show. It could be just for today.
... I met some that don't do BBBJ or require persuasion to do it during negotiation so negotiate ...There are occasional hot girls showing up. I met a few but it is difficult to get basic GFE for some reason, and the price is basically Scandallo level 500 and above. Beautiful branca is rare at Casaro. I met one but she does not kiss. Met a 18 yrs old morena who has a pretty face and model type body. She showed up around 3 AM. I remember she wanted 500 for 1 h. The problem was when I asked about kissing, she changed the deal to 450 and a drink. I was like WTF and not sure I understood because she was already holding a new drink. The drink she wanted was 80. My phone's signal in the club was too weak to use the translator and the translator would not go into offline mode either so I could not communicate well enough. It was near closing time so I gave up.
Test drive in the club is also not as easy as Scandallo. Some girls would agree to kiss but would not kiss in the club, not a good sign. Again YMMV.
If you are looking for Marriott hotels for hobbying, the Renaissance is by far the best mix of location / convenience, luxury and pricing.
It is centrally located to Moema for clinicas, higher end boates like Scandallo, Cafe Photo and Bamboa and fine dining restaurants. It is not super high end for a "5 star" hotel, but it is decent. The lounge spacious and their breakfast and happy hour spread is decent and their spa is top notch.
Their customer service is also friendly, helpful and discreet. They do have a few working girls at the lobby bar, but the ones I've seen did not interest me (more like 5's and 6's) so never inquired about pricing. But then again, I usually leave the hotel by 5 or 6 pm for drinks or dinner before painting the town and don't return until after 1 am at the earliest so probably never saw the best talent.
I stayed at the recently opened JW Marriott in July and found the place to be quite new and lovely, but still experiencing some growing pains as a new hotel (they took over the old Four Seasons). The breakfast spread is quite small at the restaurant, but the lounge is quite nice and well stocked (alcohol and red bull 24/7). The service was hit or miss. I don't mind the location too much as it isn't too far to Moema for clinicas or other boates in the heart of SP. Even when I go to Scandallo, it isn't too bad as I usually go to dinner in the Jardins or Itaim Bibi area before going to the boates..Add Skybar at Hotel Unique to the list. On weekends there are working girls but I never talked to them since I always had a companion. Next door Antoinette Mansion is a restaurant where the sugars take their companions that look very well taken care of.
At little off topic but since we're the bunch to maximize our money in this good USD=BRL wanted to ask if anyone knows about getting any medical procedures in SP.
They seem to have good hospitals and doctors in SP and I'm looking into getting my Balloon sinuplasty done there in September instead of in the States to save some $.
I know Mexico and Colombia have good set ups for americans to do all kinds of procedures for fractions of what would be charged in the states. Brazil tho I have not heard much of or at least haven't or can't since my porto is limited.
If anyone has any insights to this please PM me.
I'll be reporting in September for my trips to SP and Rio so stay tuned. Will be doing lots of clinicas, online girls, boates and report back!
The ditching process: Some first timers can get trapped by an overly aggressive girl. I always find these girls are the worst in bed. The most popular girls tend to not approach you, they don't have to. A lot of western guys are sometimes too polite to get rid of the overly aggressive girl. Remember you are a paying customer, you are there for the purpose of banging the girl you want to bang, hence be polite but firm in the ditching process. If you get trapped, try the following.
~Get up and go to the bathroom, when you come back stand at the bar for a while. If she comes back and tries to grab you again, just say I want to relax a bit or keep moving, a moving target his hard to hit, move around.
~Of course it is more difficult if you have already groped her, hence I try to be a little distant until I know there is going to be a good chance of going upstairs....I have been in this situation at Scandallo, I was surprised to see the girl waiting for me outside of bathroom. LOL. I was really going to the bathroom and wasn't trying to ditch her. I got away eventually because I did not touch her, this is after she put her hand in my pants, and showing me all her assets. She went from 1000 BRL to 500 BRL. The mistake I had probably was too friendly and bought her drinks and she took advantage of that. I now still buy beer occasionally (no cocktail which double the beer price, beer is about 40) to girls that are friendly, but I told them right away that I know she is working, and she does not have to stay.
She wasn't bad looking, but I was looking for a new BMW, not a used one. LOL.
I would say as a rule of thumb, the ones that approaches you or are regulars to the club can be had for much lower price.
At little off topic but since we're the bunch to maximize our money in this good USD=BRL wanted to ask if anyone knows about getting any medical procedures in SP....!
The private doctor without insurance is not cheap in my experience. I saw a doctor on the same day appointment for 500 BRL. The other private chain clinics I tried was like 350 BRL for booking but it's not the same day.
I have been in this situation at Scandallo, I was surprised to see the girl waiting for me outside of bathroom. LOL. I was really going to the bathroom and wasn't trying to ditch her. I got away eventually because I did not touch her, this is after she put her hand in my pants, and showing me all her assets. She went from 1000 BRL to 500 BRL. The mistake I had probably was too friendly and bought her drinks and she took advantage of that. I now still buy beer occasionally (no cocktail which double the beer price, beer is about 40) to girls that are friendly, but I told them right away that I know she is working, and she does not have to stay.
She wasn't bad looking, but I was looking for a new BMW, not a used one. LOL.
I would say as a rule of thumb, the ones that approaches you or are regulars to the club can be had for much lower price.I remembered not too long ago that girls werent allowed to do this in Scandallo and other boates like cafe photo and the such since it can really throw you off and makes things awkward or was I mistaken. I remember going in September 2020 and no girls really did this. Some would come up and ask if I needed help since I was really new to Brazil and boates in general. I could have sworn it was a rule somewhere that girls couldn't bother a guy by straight up talking and sitting down, they had to be approach first. I remember because the first few girls I had in scadallo were super excited to have me wave them over after they walked around the entire place 5 time over and I recalled one girl was doing everything in front of me to have me tell her to take a seat next to me LOL.
We session at 4 am and we finished at 5 am when it closed. They made us pay our tabs and gave us a purple paper bracelet like the ones at festivals so when we got out the bouncers knew we paid our tabs and were allowed to leave without any issues.
I concur that the girls who approach you first and try to get you into a room fast are the worst. They see you as an easy target and watch the clock. The best girls are the one's who don't make moves in my experience.
The Critic
08-21-22, 06:43
The ditching process: Some first timers can get trapped by an overly aggressive girl. I always find these girls are the worst in bed. The most popular girls tend to not approach you, they don't have to. A lot of western guys are sometimes too polite to get rid of the overly aggressive girl. Remember you are a paying customer, you are there for the purpose of banging the girl you want to bang, hence be polite but firm in the ditching process. If you get trapped, try the following.
~Get up and go to the bathroom, when you come back stand at the bar for a while. If she comes back and tries to grab you again, just say I want to relax a bit or keep moving, a moving target his hard to hit, move around.
~Of course it is more difficult if you have already groped her, hence I try to be a little distant until I know there is going to be a good chance of going upstairs....
I have been in this situation at Scandallo, I was surprised to see the girl waiting for me outside of bathroom. LOL. I was really going to the bathroom and wasn't trying to ditch her. I got away eventually because I did not touch her, this is after she put her hand in my pants, and showing me all her assets. She went from 1000 BRL to 500 BRL. The mistake I had probably was too friendly and bought her drinks and she took advantage of that. I now still buy beer occasionally (no cocktail which double the beer price, beer is about 40) to girls that are friendly, but I told them right away that I know she is working, and she does not have to stay.
She wasn't bad looking, but I was looking for a new BMW, not a used one. LOL.
I would say as a rule of thumb, the ones that approaches you or are regulars to the club can be had for much lower price.
I concur that the girls who approach you first and try to get you into a room fast are the worst. They see you as an easy target and watch the clock. The best girls are the one's who don't make moves in my experience.
Is it that the "agressive" GP one you don't like (understandable you want what you want) or Maybe..... just Maybe for what ever qualities you have the GP may like you and just want to be with you?
Assuming she is your type does the GP get rejected just for approaching you? (is the GP, SOL just for desiring to be with you and has to approach you)
What is the GP to do if they want to be with you? (Sometimes it's not a money thing but an attraction to you. However you look.... LOL) for some GPs they going to get money that night, however they rather get money from someone thier attacted to.
The Critic
08-21-22, 07:07
Add Skybar at Hotel Unique to the list. On weekends there are working girls but I never talked to them since I always had a companion. Next door Antoinette Mansion is a restaurant where the sugars take their companions that look very well taken care of.Correction misspelling should be ......
Antonella Maison http://antonellamaison.com/ very nice French Restaurante next to Hotel Unique. Yea they like it!
Is it that the "agressive" GP one you don't like (understandable you want what you want) or Maybe..... just Maybe for what ever qualities you have the GP may like you and just want to be with you?
Assuming she is your type does the GP get rejected just for approaching you? (is the GP, SOL just for desiring to be with you and has to approach you)
What is the GP to do if they want to be with you? (Sometimes it's not a money thing but an attraction to you. However you look.... LOL) for some GPs they going to get money that night, however they rather get money from someone thier attacted to.I know what you mean but at least in my case it was always just a sell. They'd throw out a number and stick to it. Then once you're in, start the countdown and only one shot and then she's off to the next guy downstairs.
I've had some good connections with clinica / terma girls who would just want to hang out and show me around the city or have a cheap dinner and go back to my place to have some fun at no charge.
The worst one's in my personal experience would be the girls who speak decent english and try to get you to go with them because they think it's better for you since the language barrier isn't a issue.
They charge a higher fee and the feeling wasnt natural or alluring in my case.
I found centaurus in rio to be the worst offender where I was constantly approached by 2 girls at the same time and they would offer me a "deal" to go with both of them at whatever price within 3 minutes of me sitting down.
Happened every single time I went.
If a GP is interested it's pretty obvious and they put effort to make you comfortable and will ask a low price or go down on their price.
I had a carioca pause her vacation and fly back to see me for one day just so we could get some lunch and fuck and then flew back out the next day.
Funny enough I had only met her once back in September 2020 so guess I made a really good impression on her, she was also a centaurus girl so go figure.
We still stay in contact and she's always helping me out navigate rio and even gave me some advice on another GP.
So when a GP likes you she really lets you know.
The private doctor without insurance is not cheap in my experience. I saw a doctor on the same day appointment for 500 BRL. The other private chain clinics I tried was like 350 BRL for booking but it's not the same day.I need a ENT Specialist.
I figured since there are tons of hospitals that it would be fairly reasonable to find a good one that can do the sinusitis surgery for a few thousand BRL.
Which is a fair rate since the same rate in the US is 5-7 K USD.
Again sorry to stray a bit off topic but I figured some one on the board had experience doing some medical stuff in Brazil since I think one of the top 3 reasons people travel is for cheap medical work to be done.
The Critic
08-21-22, 07:45
The worst one's in my personal experience would be the girls who speak decent english and try to get you to go with them because they think it's better for you since the language barrier isn't a issue.
If a GP is interested it's pretty obvious and they put effort to make you comfortableI know what you mean .....
I just would not automatically dismiss a GP for thier perceived aggressiveness (and hope BMs don't dismiss them out of hand) YMMV. There are many reasons for so call agressiveness (most of which is true there are sharks in the water seeking thier next target / victim). I also wouldn't put down a GP who speaks english. The GP may think speaking english will "make you comfortable" how many BMs complain (or are hesitant or are frustrated) that they don't understand portuguese and communicating via translator app is not the best experience to communicate. Yet we are on the defensive with a English speaking GP. If they speak english maybe the GP educated and/or have a regular job and they come to Scandallo as a GPSJ. They approach a BM sometimes because they are attracted to them.
Get the joke. ESL (English as a Second Language) vs GPSJ (Garota de Programa as a Second Job) LOL!
Also a Newbe could be agressive due to the competition and they trying to make money but they still want to be with you. Once they get the lay of the land and understand how things work they may be tone down thier agressiveness but non the less if you look like Chris Hemsworth / Brad Pit what is a GP to do? LOL.
I need a ENT Specialist.....That is the type of doctor I saw. I can give you her whatsapp so you can make query online if you want to send me a PM.
The private doctor without insurance is not cheap in my experience. I saw a doctor on the same day appointment for 500 BRL. The other private chain clinics I tried was like 350 BRL for booking but it's not the same day.Nounce, 500 BRL is nothing to see a doctor. You might be coming from a European country with a socialized health system. I'm guessing Bearsi does not have insurance coverage that covers this procedure in its entirety.
I remembered not too long ago that girls werent allowed to do this in Scandallo and other boates like cafe photo and the such since it can really throw you off and makes things awkward or was I mistaken. ....I don't disagree about the rule. What I reported is what happened to me. I was alone sitting on the couch by the elevator. They would sit down next to me first. Some would start to make small talk if I didn't initiate. My post topic specifically says it is for newbie. It's a baiting process, she started with drink, then hoping I would grope her, following me to the bathroom was the most unusual, and her dropping her price to 500 BRL I told her my true intention early that I just got off work and wanted to relax, I don't want to have sex yet but I should have rejected her from the beginning.
Some also approached me in the restaurant when I was having dinner to ask if I want a companion. I reported a college girl did that before. It also happened two more times last week. Then a few that just talked dirty to me in the bar like eating my ass, or suck my dick and stuff like that.
I could say this about myself at Scandallo or any other boates. If I show interest at a girl and initiate conversation, 99% of the time I would take her to the room and frequently that is the only girl I talked to all night because the girls I have picked at Scandallo always say yes to all my requests consistently so no reason for rejection unless she insists on going to the room right away.
Typically the girl will not approach you but they will lock eyes with you and smile waiting for you to approach. One of my best experience was with a girl that was with a group of girls all night like she wasn't there working. Her friends noticed me and left her alone at the table for me to approach. I don't know how they figure out which girl I was interested in. LOL.
Is it that the "agressive" GP one you don't like (understandable you want what you want....It's just an information post for newbie about what I think is a baiting process.
I found centaurus in rio to be the worst offender where I was constantly approached by 2 girls at the same time and they would offer me a "deal" to go with both of them at whatever price within 3 minutes of me sitting down.
Happened every single time I went.
If a GP is interested it's pretty obvious and they put effort to make you comfortable and will ask a low price or go down on their price.
I had a carioca pause her vacation and fly back to see me for one day just so we could get some lunch and fuck and then flew back out the next day.
Funny enough I had only met her once back in September 2020 so guess I made a really good impression on her, she was also a centaurus girl so go figure.
We still stay in contact and she's always helping me out navigate rio and even gave me some advice on another GP.
So when a GP likes you she really lets you know.Centaurus has been an unique case for a long time. It's in the heart of the tourist zone. For years, they had a girl greet you and follow you around. You had to shake her off if you were not interested.
I believe the management encourages the hardsell tactics. Centaurus has never had the fun atmosphere of other termas.
I also met a Centaurus girl. I didn't know it at the time. It was in an outdoor cafe on Ave. Atlantica. She was as chill as could be hanging out. I told her I didn't have enough cash on me to take her to my apartment. She said it was okay if I got the money in the morning.
I know what you mean .....
I just would not automatically dismiss a GP for thier perceived aggressiveness ...The GP may think speaking english will "make you comfortable" how many BMs complain (or are hesitant or are frustrated) that they don't understand portuguese and communicating via translator app is not the best experience to communicate....In this case, she pressured me and that made me uncomfortable. I picked one that spoke English. I am also not looking for a 9 or 10 in face because the ones I picked all have some flaws I that noticed immediately but I like their overall appearance.
Slow nights for girls are sure to have great final prices.
If the nice looking girl has not scored one client around dawn and there are bills to pay, there will be special offer for sure.
And making sex at dawn is a great feeling. World flows in slow motion at 4:30 am.
I don't disagree about the rule. What I reported is what happened to me. I was alone sitting on the couch by the elevator. They would sit down next to me first. Some would start to make small talk if I didn't initiate. My post topic specifically says it is for newbie. It's a baiting process, she started with drink, then hoping I would grope her, following me to the bathroom was the most unusual, and her dropping her price to 500 BRL I told her my true intention early that I just got off work and wanted to relax, I don't want to have sex yet but I should have rejected her from the beginning.
Some also approached me in the restaurant when I was having dinner to ask if I want a companion. I reported a college girl did that before. It also happened two more times last week. Then a few that just talked dirty to me in the bar like eating my ass, or suck my dick and stuff like that.
I could say this about myself at Scandallo or any other boates. If I show interest at a girl and initiate conversation, 99% of the time I would take her to the room and frequently that is the only girl I talked to all night because the girls I have picked at Scandallo always say yes to all my requests consistently so no reason for rejection unless she insists on going to the room right away.
Typically the girl will not approach you but they will lock eyes with you and smile waiting for you to approach. One of my best experience was with a girl that was with a group of girls all night like she wasn't there working. Her friends noticed me and left her alone at the table for me to approach. I don't know how they figure out which girl I was interested in. LOL.I meant I remember it was policy at scandallo for girls not to approach and try to pressure a guy into a session. Just like how they can't have their phones on them while out in lobby / club / patio / restaurant.
This was the policy for sure in cafe photo when it re opened in Oct. And it was like that when I went in Nov. Made it more relaxed just to look around, have some drinks and chat with your friends and once you're ready you just flag a girl down to come over.
Another reason why I liked SP over Rio since in rio all the termas are small and so girls will approach all the time. Solarium was the best for me in Rio because the girls who would approach would just make small talk and ask if you needed help talking since they can spot a non porto speaker a mile away. Never would try to get me to buy them drinks and would just be very chill.
I meant I remember it was policy at scandallo for girls not to approach and try to pressure a guy into a session. Just like how they can't have their phones on them while out in lobby / club / patio / restaurant.....I understand. But regardless what the policy is, the purpose of my post is tailored to provide information to help newbie in this situation, not a trip report or a complaint about girls. It also helps newbies to understand the pricing dynamic. The girls automatically lowered the price on more than one occasion when they approached me. I also have 500 BRL first offer the last time because I want to find out what the unattractive girls charge so I asked when they approached me.
Another point is don't grope the girl if you are not ready to commit. I kept my hands to myself when she was fondling my dick inside my pants.
I dress poorly or very simple, my shoes are dirty, and my overall appearance is unremarkable.
A member joking with me has coined a term about my approach which I have been trying to change. haha
Slow nights for girls are sure to have great final prices...Or in my case, it's around the beginning of her shift, if I went with her under pressure, then she already had money in the bank before the night started.
I meant I remember it was policy at scandallo for girls not to approach and try to pressure a guy into a session. Just like how they can't have their phones on them while out in lobby / club / patio / restaurant.
This was the policy for sure in cafe photo when it re opened in Oct. And it was like that when I went in Nov. Made it more relaxed just to look around, have some drinks and chat with your friends and once you're ready you just flag a girl down to come over.
Another reason why I liked SP over Rio since in rio all the termas are small and so girls will approach all the time. Solarium was the best for me in Rio because the girls who would approach would just make small talk and ask if you needed help talking since they can spot a non porto speaker a mile away. Never would try to get me to buy them drinks and would just be very chill.There's no policy for girls not to approach guys, it happens often. Most just don't because they know its not classy, its better for them to make eye contact and the guy will call her over if interested so she has better odds of hooking the guy. The pushy ones are desperate to make money and open to negotiate.
Boob Luvah
08-23-22, 21:22
Follow up on the above websites.
Suspicious number that is found on several of those websites: (11) 99106-6691.
Several girls listed with that number are very attractive, but I don't have a good feeling about it:
https://escortsvogue.com/fresh-escort-girl-near-avenida-paulista-samara-prada/
https://myescortgirls.com.br/escorts-in-sao-paulo/fresh-female-escorts-in-jardins-avenida-paulista-sp/
https://myescortgirls.com.br/brunette-escorts/get-ready-to-meet-lais-mulatta-11-99106-6691/
https://myescortgirls.com.br/escorts-in-sao-paulo/find-sao-paulo-escorts-online-today-at-my-escort-girls-like-babi-miller/.I read through many pages and I'm very thankful for the information. I was happy to learn that there are a lot of options in Sao Paolo. Clinicas with or without massage, nightclubs and escorts. If I have time I will try them all but due to time constraints, I only have a day in Sao Paolo, I would like to ask which would you recommend for me to try for the best experience Sao Paolo can offer?
Thanks!
FlowState985
08-24-22, 07:57
I read through many pages and I'm very thankful for the information. I was happy to learn that there are a lot of options in Sao Paolo. Clinicas with or without massage, nightclubs and escorts. If I have time I will try them all but due to time constraints, I only have a day in Sao Paolo, I would like to ask which would you recommend for me to try for the best experience Sao Paolo can offer?
Thanks!Clinicas daytime, nightclubs / boates at night. Skip websites, waste of time.
The Critic
08-24-22, 08:39
I read through many pages and I'm very thankful for the information. I was happy to learn that there are a lot of options in Sao Paolo. Clinicas with or without massage, nightclubs and escorts. If I have time I will try them all but due to time constraints, I only have a day in Sao Paolo, I would like to ask which would you recommend for me to try for the best experience Sao Paolo can offer?Thanks!Don't know when you depart for SP or area your staying (some areas are more closer to Clinicas) but read/research the past posts here.
-Clinicas (https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU&ll=-23.601188921170436%2C-46.70205444958332&z=12) during the daytime.
-Scandallo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xObcvYZ1Ak at night for the experience (expensive). There are others to check out but with limited time check this one out.
-Casarao is good at night also if you don't want to spend Scandallo prices.
Don't waste time with online resources they often don't have a good sense (of your) time and can be very late to downright flake a meeting.
I read through many pages and I'm very thankful for the information. I was happy to learn that there are a lot of options in Sao Paolo. Clinicas with or without massage, nightclubs and escorts. If I have time I will try them all but due to time constraints, I only have a day in Sao Paolo, I would like to ask which would you recommend for me to try for the best experience Sao Paolo can offer?Scandallos for sure. I went to Bahamas before and was thoroughly unimpressed.
A tip for Scandallos. Do not let the girls order the beer with salt. It costs 2 x the price of the beer just for salt. I think it's a scam the girls and management run as a lot of girls try to order it.
Scandalo must be visited, at least once, for the visual experience. Not speaking Portuguese is a hassle with most of the girls, but speaking Spanish helps. Some girls are very direct and others would just stare, waiting for your move.
The Clinicas are a good lower cost option, but most pictures do not show what the dress can hide.
The escort websites are convenient if you wish to enjoy the service at your hotel. Some ads are handled by the providers and some by "agents". Not all providers reply or open the messages that you send them, so it is best to send messages to a few girls. If you are lucky, you can have a good experience. I would avoid providers that text you too many rules.
Anyone experience this one yet? Kinda curious.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/vou-babar-bem-gostoso-no-seu-pau-enquanto-voce-leva-jatos-de-squirt-deliciosos-na-cara-id-2edxq
Anyone experience this one yet? Kinda curious.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/vou-babar-bem-gostoso-no-seu-pau-enquanto-voce-leva-jatos-de-squirt-deliciosos-na-cara-id-2edxqMan when are you guys going to learn from fucking with photoacompanhantes LOLOLOL! Why not stick to the higher end sites with solid reviews? Real, high quality tutes with no bullshit!
FlowState985
08-24-22, 20:51
Anyone experience this one yet? Kinda curious.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/vou-babar-bem-gostoso-no-seu-pau-enquanto-voce-leva-jatos-de-squirt-deliciosos-na-cara-id-2edxqNo, and not worth R500. I looked at her instagram, and she got bad boobs job, like surgery mark down the middle. If you like the type, go for it, but not for me.
No, and not worth R500. I looked at her instagram, and she got bad boobs job, like surgery mark down the middle. If you like the type, go for it, but not for me.Cool. Thanks for letting me know. I was going to TOFTT but with the bad boob job scars. Not interested.
Anyone experience this one yet? Kinda curious.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/vou-babar-bem-gostoso-no-seu-pau-enquanto-voce-leva-jatos-de-squirt-deliciosos-na-cara-id-2edxqI've tried every single online site in SP and PA is the worst and would never recommend.
If you have low standards and want a cheap fuck and you don't really care what comes thru the door as long as it's a biological girl then sure.
I've met some guys like that in Brazil who will fuck a 2/10 and count it as a win since he paid her $20 USD for 30 mins.
PA is a bunch of bait and switch and flakes. Some might find a diamond in the rough but for most of us who are here for days or 2 weeks max it's not worth your time or seed.
You'd find the equivalent options in republica park with all the SW tbh.
Try everything but PA if you value your time.
FlowState985
08-25-22, 05:41
PA is a bunch of bait and switch and flakes. Some might find a diamond in the rough but for most of us who are here for days or 2 weeks max it's not worth your time or seed.
This.
First time I visited SP, I tried PA, and it was a waste of time, a lot of bait and switch, not to mention you got to setup a time to meet them, and then uber back and forth and the cost of Uber.
There are a lot of fraud on PA so stay away and don't risk it / waste your time.
This.
First time I visited SP, I tried PA, and it was a waste of time, a lot of bait and switch, not to mention you got to setup a time to meet them, and then uber back and forth and the cost of Uber.
Vagabundo1
08-25-22, 07:58
https://www.gp-guia.net/
The single best site to screen in all brasil.
There are a lot of fraud on PA so stay away and don't risk it / waste your time.
There are a lot of fraud on PA so stay away and don't risk it / waste your time.Agree with you and Bearsi. I was bored and just browsing thru it to see what was on offer and that one popped up. I was curious. But not curious enough to pursue it. Wanted to see if anyone else had though.
GringoItaliano
08-25-22, 18:16
I have been RTFF'ing in preparation for an upcoming first-time trip to Sau Paulo. I have been to Rio before and remembered finding an old guide to the Rio termas that was useful in giving me the general lay of the land, even if it was somewhat dated. Perhaps I have missed it, but I have not come across anything like that for SP thus far, beyond the useful Google Map, a list of hotels, and a few extensive Reports of Distinction. I have been trying to piece together a mental overview from the intermittent bits and pieces of actual substantive information interspersed in the chit-chat on this thread, but an actual guide or reference work would give me a better 10,000-foot view.
I have been RTFF'ing in preparation for an upcoming first-time trip to Sau Paulo. I have been to Rio before and remembered finding an old guide to the Rio termas that was useful in giving me the general lay of the land, even if it was somewhat dated. Perhaps I have missed it, but I have not come across anything like that for SP thus far, beyond the useful Google Map, a list of hotels, and a few extensive Reports of Distinction. I have been trying to piece together a mental overview from the intermittent bits and pieces of actual substantive information interspersed in the chit-chat on this thread, but an actual guide or reference work would give me a better 10,000-foot view.Check out SocratesNY's report and it should help a lot (#14220).
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2668967#post2668967.
UniversalX
08-26-22, 07:48
Anyone experience this one yet? Kinda curious.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/vou-babar-bem-gostoso-no-seu-pau-enquanto-voce-leva-jatos-de-squirt-deliciosos-na-cara-id-2edxq
IMHO, NO not this particular GP, not worth 500 R, look at first picture in series left boob badly photoshoped to hide scar. There are plenty of better choices with corresponding better rates on photoacompanhantes.
Unlike previous posters I guess I've had good luck with photoacompanhantes. But overall it is a crapshoot when you are using online resources..
I don't know if this helps but during Whatsapp scheduling / negotiations (trying to keep them honest) I always state that I post reviews on https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=2 and if photos do not match look I will not session (I try to meet outside of my hotel lobby if they not good then walk away, so far had not experience where I had to walk away) . Some will dropoff conversations, I'm assuming these are the fakes however the ones that have accepted / TD'ed have been great.
Now if you have to go to thier place you may lose the opportunity to just walk away. Also if you use a ST Hotel you could wait outside to meet and then pay for room. Howerver be aware on one occasion GP wanted me to pay for room and give room number before leaving residence to meet. Gave Room number and 15 minutes later (tracked uber) showed up but came strait to room so in this case I got did get lucky but in retrospect anyone could have shown up (scary).
Just my opinion, it looks like photoacompanhantes are aware of the complaints since a good number of listings state "verified photos or videos". This still does not prevent a bait and switch situation.
Either way I do not subscribe to Photoacompanhantes being a waste of time, I do susbscribe to proceed with caution and be picky and use techniques to ensure the listing is what shows up. I can see where BMs can be fustrated by "bait and switch" listings, older age than listing or photo, heavy photoshoped images, etc. YEMV.
Now the Photoacompanhantes-GP session experience / satisfaction is a whole different subject, my commentary is only with what you see advertised is what shows up or you meet is the same.
https://www.gp-guia.net/
The single best site to screen in all brasil.Yes, absolutely.
The key metric on Gpguia is "Test Drives". Look for escorts with many positive Test Drives and very few negative ones. As with any review site, look for with reviewers with a significant amount of posts. A girl with a few positive reviews from one time posters isn't a very reliable indication of what to expect.
It also helps to learn the Portuguese words for face, ass, breasts, body, attitude, etc. These are rated on a ten scale by many reviewers.
A friend of mine from Sao Paulo sent me a short clip from a fantastic escort doing a catwalk for his iphone in the parking basement. He picked her from the new location of a classy boate. She's a gorgeous japa (Brazilian Japanese).
And the car speaks for itself, he's a wealthy Brazilian.
The doctor says those legs on my shoulders will be good for my back pain. LOL. She's a 10 for my tastes.
Yes, this is the kind of escorts you can find in Scandallo, Cafe Photo and some private events.
EverythingBlue
08-27-22, 19:11
A friend of mine from Sao Paulo sent me a short clip from a fantastic escort doing a catwalk for his iphone in the parking basement. He picked her from the new location of a classy boate. She's a gorgeous japa (Brazilian Japanese).
And the car speaks for itself, he's a wealthy Brazilian.
The doctor says those legs on my shoulders will be good for my back pain. LOL. She's a 10 for my tastes.
Yes, this is the kind of escorts you can find in Scandallo, Cafe Photo and some private events.Mouthwatering find by your friend. Good for him, curious on the location of this classy boate LOL. I can't see her face well, but from what I can see she might be indeed a 9-10. Your pics are always spot on BTW, great motivating reports.
A friend of mine from Sao Paulo sent me a short clip from a fantastic escort doing a catwalk for his iphone in the parking basement. He picked her from the new location of a classy boate. Possible to get the name of this boate??
Yes sure, he as many Brazilians, goes to Cafe Photo. Scandallo has these kind of beauties as we all know.
Possible to get the name of this boate??Thanks Blue, one image means more than 1000 words. I will ask for more info about this girl in particular. Would love to shoot with her after the corresponding test drive of course.
Mouthwatering find by your friend. Good for him, curious on the location of this classy boate LOL. I can't see her face well, but from what I can see she might be indeed a 9-10. Your pics are always spot on BTW, great motivating reports.
UniversalX
08-28-22, 04:41
.... the new location of a classy boate.Inquiring Minds would love to know the name of this "Classy Boate" You can at least PM the name?
I recall reading about good quality love hotels that have GPS usually present and waiting around, I would like to know which are still good. I arrive back in Sao Paulo in late September.
A friend of mine from Sao Paulo sent me a short clip from a fantastic escort doing a catwalk for his iphone in the parking basement. He picked her from the new location of a classy boate. She's a gorgeous japa (Brazilian Japanese).
And the car speaks for itself, he's a wealthy Brazilian.
The doctor says those legs on my shoulders will be good for my back pain. LOL. She's a 10 for my tastes.
Yes, this is the kind of escorts you can find in Scandallo, Cafe Photo and some private events.Photo not in Brazil then, none of those cars have Brazilian plates. Plus they are required to have front plates.
Vagabundo1
08-28-22, 15:15
https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro
This is the top shelf guide for motels in all of Brazil. A good technique is to find out where the girl lives (like Meier, in Rio) and propose to go to a motel in her 'hood (like Corinto).
Instant cred.
In the Swiss Navy, we call that getting inside her OODA (Observe Orient Decide Act) loop. Bring some lube -- Swiss Navy -- bring your tests, and stick it up her ass.
I recall reading about good quality love hotels that have GPS usually present and waiting around, I would like to know which are still good. I arrive back in Sao Paulo in late September.
Hi Universal, the only classy boate with new location is Cafe Photo.
Its third location in about 15 years.
Inquiring Minds would love to know the name of this "Classy Boate" You can at least PM the name?
FlowState985
08-29-22, 03:21
Photo not in Brazil then, none of those cars have Brazilian plates. Plus they are required to have front plates.Even if you are required to have front plate, I wouldn't put a front plate on a nice Lambo, I would just take a ticket and move on. A front plate on a junker, but a nice lambo? Hell nah.
UniversalX
08-29-22, 03:51
Hi Universal, the only classy boate with new location is Cafe Photo.
Its third location in about 15 years.Thanks, I was hoping you were going to Name A Brand New Boate Unknown to the forum. The address change has been mentioned numerious times during and after COVID (COVID is not over yet you know what I mean regarding timeline).
Cafe Photo, I have not seen a confirmation but if they still fingerprint I will pass on this Boate.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2719771&viewfull=1#post2719771
UniversalX
08-29-22, 04:34
I recall reading about good quality love hotels that have GPS usually present and waiting around, I would like to know which are still good. I arrive back in Sao Paulo in late September.
Sao Paulo Specific Link.
https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/sao-paulo
You can email or call to find out. If you find one please let us know.
I have no knowledge of SP Love Hotels with in-house GPs present or GP viewing catalog.
I went last week and they still have fingerprint.
Thanks, I was hoping you were going to Name A Brand New Boate Unknown to the forum. The address change has been mentioned numerious times during and after COVID (COVID is not over yet you know what I mean regarding timeline).
Cafe Photo, I have not seen a confirmation but if they still fingerprint I will pass on this Boate.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2719771&viewfull=1#post2719771
Axel Heyst
08-29-22, 13:17
Cafe Photo, I have not seen a confirmation but if they still fingerprint I will pass on this Boate.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2719771&viewfull=1#post2719771
I went last week and they still have fingerprint.I don't like the fingerprint BS on general principals. It seems like a huge invasion of my privacy plus I can't think of any other bordello in the world that requires it, but what actual harm can it cause? What is the worst possible downside?
Even if you are required to have front plate, I wouldn't put a front plate on a nice Lambo, I would just take a ticket and move on. A front plate on a junker, but a nice lambo? Hell nah.I was referring to all the cars in the photo. Plates in Brasil look like Euro plates elongate and they have tamper proof locks on the them so people can't just remove them. Point is I call BS, photo of girl was not in Brasil.
Hi Hobbying, yeah you're partly right, regular cars are required to have two plates. I didn't check regulations for sport cars, but from my photos of the Salao do Automovel, I guess sport cars have special treatment.
And be sure if road police stops you with such a car, and maybe woman company, you'll have another treatment.
I don't know about Germany or Switzerland, but Brasil (with an S) is a very different place.
Note: sorry, cars and gorgeous women are my weakness.
Photo not in Brazil then, none of those cars have Brazilian plates. Plus they are required to have front plates.
I went to Bomboa, I refer to that house as Bombo, and had a special experience.
There was a woman in her late 40's I suppose, Brazilian, classy, and she didn't look like and escort, nor was dressing as one. When I finally approached, she was polite and her accent educated. She told me she was not an escort.
She was simple and straight. "I love girls and I'm looking for one". I told her it was a great place to find one, 'cause there are lots of girls who offer their company to couples and women. She said thanks and went to the bar.
When I was on the way to my hotel in the taxi, great place for philosophy in the back seat, I spent few minutes to think of it.
Big stake of the escort market may be required by other women. This is not a "social issue" created by males only, as feminists want to make us believe.
Oh yeah, but they are very discreet I'm sure.
UniversalX
08-29-22, 19:08
I don't like the fingerprint BS on general principals. It seems like a huge invasion of my privacy plus I can't think of any other bordello in the world that requires it, but what actual harm can it cause? What is the worst possible downside?I concur.
Prospective Harm / Downside, unknown but IMHO it exists. Therefore I will avoid.
Hello Everyone,
Here are some of the things I've experienced:
1) Hotel Bourbon Convention Center.
--Bed is hard, I'm on floor 1.
--Need Key card to get into room.
--I don't think it has heat, not a huge deal, but it's a tad chilly.
--Internet-Slow around 12 mbs, I brought Ethernet cable, but I don't think the wired outlet works.
--Bringing girls back, they allow. If you do not book room for 2, they'll charge 150 each night, but if you book for 2 then they won't.
--I think you are limited to two additional guests in one day. Example: If you booked for 2 then you, one guest are free and you can bring up to two more that day, no 5 somes to my knowledge. I haven't brought more than one girl back so this is just an assumption.
--Across the street from the mall, watch out for the clowns. They ask money for kids and it's annoying. You'll see them.
--Location is great if you want to go to clinics, it's a short walk between all. Walking about 10 minutes to Abbodora and 15-20 minutes to Lotus Lounge Massage).
--Not great for food options.
--Gym- conveniently located between two Smartfits (25 BRL for a day).
--They'll do laundry (costs).
--You can ask for iron and ironing board, but you have to return.
--Lots of people stay here, it gets somewhat busy during the day. Business related people.
--Airplane noise, not bad, not great. It hasn't woken me up at night.
--The breakfast the provide is not great
2) Tsue Palace.
--I've walked by and did notice several working girls at it and at the bars / restaurants.
--Not sure I'd stay here, but it'd be convenient.
3) Spas, not particular happy, to be fair I've had less than stellar events and it just kills my mood.
-Abbodra.
-I've gone to this one primarily.
-I can never understand names, I thought I said the correct name, but instead I got someone else. By the time we figured it out she was taken, I was pissed but not their fault.
-going forward I'm going to stand with reception and ask her to point to the name on the list of the girl as she walks in and I'll write it on my phone and mark with " the more " the higher rating.
-second best lineup, also the largest. 20-25 sometimes.
-it gets busy at 6. I was behind a group of 7 dicks, literally they had just walked in. They couldn't decide, but myself and another monger wanted Girl A and be. The other monger not part of the group asked for Girl A. But be / see the 7 dick group was their first, the reception gave them the option to pick her first. They did. That monger picked someone else. The other 6 dicks were still debating, I then asked for Girl be. Well you guessed it, reception asked the remaining 6 dicks in the group if they wanted her and one did. So I left and went to Joy who was suppose to be open, but closed.
-I asked who will be working tomorrow on whatsapp and they said same girls as today with no names. Idiots. I swear Brazilians are lazy.
-Lotus Lounge massage.
-They have pictures online with some faces and most without, when you go in they show the girls face on the tablet.
-The hottest girls, not sure it's worth the price.
-I booked a girl 20 minutes before arriving, I started to walk. The reception messaged me saying if she leaves or something happens can she message me and let me know. I said no problem see you in 10 minutes. Well you guessed it. When I got in she wasn't available. SMH, wtf. At this point I've been cancelled / postponed several times today (twitter / boate girls), and that day specifically I was suppose to have a reputable boate girl suck my dick while I was in meetings all day, we agreed the day prior she'd do it. She messaged me an hour after she was suppose to show saying she just woke and has to be at work at 7. I said no problem, let me know when you arrive. NO response. The worst part was she was sending me videos of her sucking dick and asking about lingerie / costumes and all this sexual stuff, so I was all built up. Then let down be / see she never showed. I digress. So back to the "scheduled" session at Lotus. I pick another girl but at this point I'm fuming between the "reservation" and boate girl. I get in the room lay down and I'm very cold / angry. She comes in, I don't get up and just say Hi (I don't speak Portuguese). She starts massaging, not a good massage. Eventually I turn around and she hot and sexy. I get hard she puts on a condom and rides me. I flip her over on her back and she wouldn't let me go deep, I'm not huge but bigger. I can see the pain in her face and she asks to go to doggy. At this point my mood is turning again. Well in doggy I feel like she's doing the same thing. I lose interest and 15 minutes into the session I want to leave. What a damn waste of a day. I don't know how you guys do it here. Also, it was 45 minutes not an hour.
-I did have one session with Pitty a few days prior to the above and she was great. Good Deepthroat but I felt she didn't want me to CIM.
-Miruna / Prime.
-Not worth it in my opinion.
-Joy.
-Went twice, it was closed Monday when it said it'd be open.
-When I went they had two girls.
4) ATM.
-Screw US Bank-the debit card doesn't work at Santander.
-Santander in the mall allows 3,000 BRL at a time.
-Bradesco across from the mall limits to 890.
-My Charles Schwab card worked at Santander, but I lost it and ordered a new one.
5) Twitter / Boate girls.
-I'll send more details later. Be PREPARED to be cancelled on many times. Just writing this I am getting mad with all the cancellations from these twats. Literally schedule the night before and they cancel. The dick meeting girl said she had to work, then messaged me that night saying she was feeling bad and didn't want to go to Scandallo, but would like to reschedule the next time? What, did you have to work or not feel good? LIARS!
-Message me if you want names. I don't have many
-twitter handle: Httmolinaa Micaela Molina this girls deepthroats and loves it. I recommend. God damn it was hot.
6) Ubereats
---no longer available
---iFood require Brazilian number
---Rappi I can't figure out why they keep declining when i checkout. It has nothing to do with my CC or Paypal.
---This is a huge let down. B/c I can't get ubereats (I work during the day), I now need to figure out what to do for lunch/dinner. An unforseen obstacle.
7) OVERALL FEELINGS
---I'm not loving it here. The girls are hot and good sex, but overall this trip I've only nutted like 7 times (if I was in FKKs, i'd probably nutted 25 times). Oh one of the boate girls was the worst sex I've ever had, good person but terrible sex. I love the fkks for all the reason i hate it here. I would write more, but I have a meeting i need to prepare for. The stress of scheduling/not speaking portuguese and the time to go from one place to another. Not worth it.
Thanks for those who read, obviously you can tell I'm on edge with my experiences here.
I can't figure out how to edit my post, I did it earlier but now I can't. The quoted section should have said:
-Abbodra.
-it gets busy at 6. I was behind a group of 7 dicks, literally they had just walked in. They couldn't decide, but myself and another monger who walked in before me but not part of 7 dick club, we wanted Girl AA and BB. The other monger not part of the group asked for Girl AA. But the receptionist asked the 7 dick group, who was their before myself and the monger, if they wanted Girl AA, and one guy in 7 dick club wanted her. That monger then picked someone else. The other 6 dicks were still debating, I then asked for Girl BB. Well you guessed it, reception asked the remaining 6 dicks club if one of them wanted Girl BB and one did. So I left and went to Joy who was suppose to be open, but closed.
-Abbodra.
-it gets busy at 6. I was behind a group of 7 dicks, literally they had just walked in. They couldn't decide, but myself and another monger wanted Girl A and be. The other monger not part of the group asked for Girl A. But be / see the 7 dick group was their first, the reception gave them the option to pick her first. They did. That monger picked someone else. The other 6 dicks were still debating, I then asked for Girl be. Well you guessed it, reception asked the remaining 6 dicks in the group if they wanted her and one did. So I left
BOATES:
I hate negotiating, that's why i prefer FKKs and not boates. Especially since I can lose 100 euros but only lose 30 minutes, sure you can get a girl all night for 300 euros (1,500 BRLs), but you gamble on how good she is. It's not worth testing a girl at Scandallo, in my opnion for 250 Euros (part of consumables like buying a drink PLUS room PLUS her Rate) = (150 BRL + 250 BRL + 850 BRL). I'd rather pay 70 euros and then 100 to 150 euros per fuck. Weighted average cost of times I can nut is much lower in FKKs, and I can nut way more times. To be fair, not being able to speak Portuguese is a good factor in the cost/fun calculation. I can't say hey that hurts, or yeah like that....in FKKS because most speak English I can.
You may wonder why I'm here...I'm debating about cancelling my remaining trip, booking a flight this weekend to Frankfurt and then back to USA. It's like the girls here don't want to make money.
In FKKS, i would have probably spent $4000 plus in the last week (not going all day because of work) and nutted at least 25 times. Here, I've probably spent $2000 and only 7 nuts...and a lot of loss sleep with the girls staying the night.
Fkk dollar cost equals 160 per nut
Brazil dollar cost equals 285...almost double the cost and more frustration and wasted time.
1) Cafe Photo.
--Went on a Thursday and Saturday.
--Thursday had a great selection, I don't remember the entry. Not as good or big as Scandalo.
--Saturday was DEAD.
--I took a girl home and she was a sweet and fun person to talk to. She spoke nearly perfect English.
-- Rates take out I think was 1500 for night.
2) Scandalo.
--They remodeled since Feb 2021.
--More girls than Feb 2021, I went on Friday.
--I took one girl home, not great. She talked a good game about how her BJ was, but it was terrible, I couldn't even feel it.
--Amounts were outrageous for one hour. LOL no way 1,500 or 1,000 for an hour plus the room rental. I didn't have sex, I wasn't in the mood.
3) Casaro.
--I think 150 brl to go in with consumable.
--Half hour with girls cost 250.
--One hour costs 400.
--Room I 50 for 30 minutes or 100 for an hour.
--Girl take out is 100.
--Good option to find some hotties.
--I think I went on Monday and I was surprised with the selection.
--Bar / dance main floor.
--Basement has food and bar and outdoor patio to smoke.
--I had two girls, both were good not great. The 22 year old had some big old natural titties. She was cute and somewhat mechanical but not. Her BJ wasn't good, she would allow CIM, but be / see it wasn't good I couldn't.
4) Zeus. Strip club.
--Went Wednesday night, around 930 PM.
--No girls were dancing all sitting.
--works like Casaro.
--Do not recommend.
--200 brl to enter and that include consumables, for 203 I got a water bottle, jack daniels and a gin drink.
FlowState985
09-01-22, 19:59
Thanks for those who read, obviously you can tell I'm on edge with my experiences here.1. If you are still staying at this Hotel Bourbon, there are a lot of food option around the area with short distance for lunch / dinner.
2. I stayed at Tsue Flat, it is very convenient for location but noisy due to airplanes because the window is parallel to the landing strip, which means you will hear them arriving and taking off the whole way. I did not check out the bar area, I might do it next time and we'll see.
3. As far as clinicas / spas, you can ask them for updates on whatsapp. It will have names, pics, and when they will be working that day.
6. If you preferred to get iFood for delivery, try and get a Brazilian Sim card at the mall next to the hotel and set it up that way.
"I don't know how you guys do it here. ".
Well, majority of us are on vacation and not working here so our time and your time is different. We don't have to worry about working during the day and find someone for the afternoon. We can go 11 AM or 2 PM before rush hour versus you went at 6 PM which is where majority of the Brazilian get off after work and go, even after 4 Pm it starts to get busy. And for boate girls and even clinica girls, they usually come to work 1-2 PM, because they go to boates until early morning and then sleep all day.
FlowState985
09-01-22, 20:07
BOATES:
1) Cafe Photo.
--Went on a Thursday and Saturday.
--Thursday had a great selection, I don't remember the entry. Not as good or big as Scandalo.
--Saturday was DEAD.
--I took a girl home and she was a sweet and fun person to talk to. She spoke nearly perfect English.
-- Rates take out I think was 1500 for night.
This is not the Lotus Club that is next to Bomboa right? Because I heard there is supposedly two different Cafe Photos, one renamed Lotus Club.
Also, is this the one that required fingerprint?
Yeah makes sense, but the cancellations kills me. Don't schedule if you are going to cancel. Also, when you cancel (it was very vague if she was cancelling) please for the love of god respond to me when I ask you are still coming or not, she responded 3 hours later and I didn't have time find someone else. At the time she cancelled I was in meetings and was the presenter and couldn't all of a sudden find someone. I work from hotel room and I can take a break and have sex whenever I want, well not during all my meetings. I can't find a girl last minute to come to my room when you cancel or not explicit on showing up.
Well, majority of us are on vacation and not working here so our time and your time is different. We don't have to worry about working during the day and find someone for the afternoon. We can go 11 AM or 2 PM before rush hour versus you went at 6 PM which is where majority of the Brazilian get off after work and go, even after 4 Pm it starts to get busy. And for boate girls and even clinica girls, they usually come to work 1-2 PM, because they go to boates until early morning and then sleep all day.
Cafe Foto: Boate.
Require fingerprint.
https://www.cafephoto.com.br/
Av. Dos Bandeirantes, 1515 - Vila Olmpia, So Paulo. SP, 04553-010, Brazil.
Lotus Club: Boate.
I heard not many girls, i do not plan to go.
http://www.lotusclub.com.br/
Av. Pres. Juscelino Kubitschek, 373 - Itaim Bibi, So Paulo. SP, 04543-010, Brazil.
Lotus Lounge: Clinic.
The girls are pretty on the ipad.
Messaged whatsapp to schedule. Not the best at responding and lied.
http://www.lotuslounge.com.br/
Are. Cabo Verde, 120 - Vila Olmpia, So Paulo. SP, 04550-080, Brazil.
From the Bourbon you could walk to Lotus Lounge Clinica and Cafe Photo
This is not the Lotus Club that is next to Bomboa right? Because I heard there is supposedly two different Cafe Photos, one renamed Lotus Club.
Also, is this the one that required fingerprint?
Hello Everyone,...I figure that I need to eat more than I fuck so I stayed where it was easy to get food within walking distance. I wasn't that satisfied with sex but I was very happy with food. LOL.
I did not have luck with Abbodra but I had better luck with Miruna. I mostly went during weekend. Thais, Cecila, Nicole are good. I had a bad one who agreed to BBBJ but in the room was giving me a very long HJ instead which actually was pretty good. LOL. I got rid of her and leave the room to get another. Bruna wanted 100 more for BBBJ.
Axel Heyst
09-01-22, 22:18
Solid reporting DukesFord. It is too bad you didn't dig SP as much as I do, but thanks for posting anyway. As has been noted before, the clinicas are best early. I like to go between 1 pm an 2 pm when most of the girls are available and there is a good chance I will be someone's 1st customer. If I don't find what I like I move on. Simple. I don't go to the Boates before 9 pm at the earliest. To my knowledge, you are the 2nd BM to report that Cafe Photo has some decent girls. I hate the thumb print BS, but I may have to check the damn place out anyway. We will see.
Yeah makes sense, but the cancellations kills me. Don't schedule if you are going to cancel. Also, when you cancel (it was very vague if she was cancelling) please for the love of god respond to me when I ask you are still coming or not, she responded 3 hours later and I didn't have time find someone else. At the time she cancelled I was in meetings and was the presenter and couldn't all of a sudden find someone. I work from hotel room and I can take a break and have sex whenever I want, well not during all my meetings. I can't find a girl last minute to come to my room when you cancel or not explicit on showing up.The girls that cancelled on you. Were they girls from websites? Twitter / Insta? Or were they girls from a boate? Which boate?
I have never had girls cancel on me in Brazil. In fact, I think I have cancelled on more of them due to being hungover or just tired.
Both.
Twitter girl Sofia cancelled because something came up.
Twitter girl Micaela cancelled because she's wasn't feeling good, but we later rescheduled.
Boate Fernanda cancelled because she woke up late.
Clinic didn't cancel, but said I had the appointment and within 10 minutes of confirming the appointment she left.
I feel like I'm missing another cancellation.
Literaly every appointment I've made had been cancelled or rescheduled. I'm not a bad looking guy, and I've taken girls back purely on my looks and charm. I pay well, fuck good and lick a mean as pussy. It's probably bad luck, but I do a lot and I don't have time to waste. I have next week off and more flexibility.
The girls that cancelled on you. Were they girls from websites? Twitter / Insta? Or were they girls from a boate? Which boate?
I have never had girls cancel on me in Brazil. In fact, I think I have cancelled on more of them due to being hungover or just tired.
Both.
Twitter girl Sofia cancelled because something came up.
Twitter girl Micaela cancelled because she's wasn't feeling good, but we later rescheduled.
Boate Fernanda cancelled because she woke up late.
Clinic didn't cancel, but said I had the appointment and within 10 minutes of confirming the appointment she left.
I feel like I'm missing another cancellation.
Literaly every appointment I've made had been cancelled or rescheduled. I'm not a bad looking guy, and I've taken girls back purely on my looks and charm. I pay well, fuck good and lick a mean as pussy. It's probably bad luck, but I do a lot and I don't have time to waste. I have next week off and more flexibility.It sounds more like just bad luck. Shit happens. And we don't always have the full story. I would recommend to talk to two different girls for appointments maybe an hour apart just in case one cancels. This way you are in control of who to cancel. Also. If a girl doesn't answer after 30 minutes of your message, presume it is a cancellation and move on. Don't wait. If she texts back, tell her you are busy and reschedule.
Well, majority of us are on vacation and not working here so our time and your time is different. We don't have to worry about working during the day and find someone for the afternoon. We can go 11 AM or 2 PM before rush hour versus you went at 6 PM which is where majority of the Brazilian get off after work and go, even after 4 Pm it starts to get busy. And for boate girls and even clinica girls, they usually come to work 1-2 PM, because they go to boates until early morning and then sleep all day.I have actually been in SP for a week now and I'm working remotely while I'm here. I work on my laptop from 9-5 pm daily. I get a lunch break during this time and that's when I swing over to a clinica nearby in Moema for a quick fix and then get back to work. At night then I hit the boates some nights, other nights will call a girl over or some nights I just chill at my place or the indoor pool my apartment has. The nights I go to the boates or call a girl over, I usually go to sleep by 2/2:30 am. I can function pretty well on 6-7 HR sleep so it works for me.
Not saying this will work for everyone but it is what works for me.
Nebulousity
09-02-22, 02:43
It's probably bad luck, but I do a lot and I don't have time to waste. I have next week off and more flexibility.One process that has worked recently: go to the Clinicas around 1 PM or 2 PM. Wait until you find someone you are very into. After your first session, find out which day she comes back at that Clinica, and on that day, show up at 1 PM and session for at least two hours with her (if she's not immediately available let the desk know who you are there for and you will usually wait 30 minutes max, just enjoy the presentations in the meantime). I am also time sensitive and I find in any market when I introduce logistics and hotel transportation it creates hours of waste. The extra long Clinica session with someone that has proven chemistry can create a memorable experience with off the charts IOP that is hard to pull off at a FKK. Two hours for $100 with a beautiful cool person (and minimal waiting around) is hard to beat.
I'm working remotely while I'm here. I work on my laptop from 9-5 pm daily. I get a lunch break during this time and that's when I swing over to a clinica nearby in Moema for a quick fix and then get back to work. At night then I hit the boatesI have pretty similar routine except for inviting girls over (I haven't done it yet but I am considering it). I am currently in Rio, will be in SP for a week starting this Sunday.
BOATES:
I hate negotiating, that's why i prefer FKKs and not boates Same here. Scandallo is the worst in that respect as girls start with 1500+ starting quote and you are suppyto negotiate it down. Scandallo prices have escalated since the start of pandemic. Even though I like the club, I am hesitating to visit for the same reasons you mentioned in your post.
Have you tried Rio termas? Conceptually they are very similar to FKKs but way smaller in size. I am including Rio in my.
Recent trips to Brazil just to visit termas. Girl prices are fixed prices just like in FKKs. One thing I like is that all the services including anal, CIM etc. You negotiate are covered and you pay no extra. You should try them if you haven't. My favorite terma is Solarium. I also like 4 x4.
Axel Heyst
09-02-22, 04:53
Same here. Scandallo is the worst in that respect as girls start with 1500+ starting quote and you are suppyto negotiate it down. Scandallo prices have escalated since the start of pandemic. Even though I like the club, I am hesitating to visit for the same reasons you mentioned in your post.
Have you tried Rio termas? Conceptually they are very similar to FKKs but way smaller in size. I am including Rio in my.
Recent trips to Brazil just to visit termas. Girl prices are fixed prices just like in FKKs. One thing I like is that all the services including anal, CIM etc. You negotiate are covered and you pay no extra. You should try them if you haven't. My favorite terma is Solarium. I also like 4 x4.Sao Paulo: If a Boate girl and I are getting along well, one pf us before we finish our drinks, will mention boom boom and it has been my experience that only Tier 1 Scandallo girls will ask for more than 1000, (1200 to 1500 all the way up to 2000), but almost all will accept a significantly less counteroffer. Tier 2 Scandallo girls always ask less than 1000 and they will settle for 700 to 800 if it is offered. I do not go into negotiations with either type. I give a girl I am interested in a reasonable and friendly counter depending on her tier and she can accept it or find another customer. 95% of the time the girls will accept my counteroffer. For example, on my last trip I met only one girl who declined my counter and stuck with her original asking price, but she was a special case because her girl friend had lined up 3 Brazilian VIP's while the girl and I were flirting. At Bomboa it is even simpler since there is only one Tiers. I have never met a Bomboa girl walk away from 800. In fact, most Bomboa girls are happy with 600 or 700 and I am probably overpaying a little. KKK.
Rio: IMHO Solarium has the best-looking girls of any Terma in RJ, but the rooms are too small to have really good physical intercourse, and there is no take out possibility, so unless you want to pay up for a suite you are screwed (pardon the pun). KKK. So in my opinion, Solarium is not half as much fun as my 3 favorite SP Boates. 4 x4 is fun and can be quite a scene, but the quality is just not there. Sorry RJ fans but, I have never seen a Scandallo Tier 1 quality looking girl in 4 x4. Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinion of what a good-looking girl is. But this is the reason I am skipping RJ completely on my next trip. The quality factor is so much better in SP that I want to spend a full 6 weeks in SP minus a 4-day beach getaway with my favorite SP girl, who by the way, is a mere Tier 2 Scandallo girl. That said, however, if my sexy little Tier 2 girl worked in Solarium, she would be the hottest girl in the place.
Both.
Twitter girl Sofia cancelled because something came up.
Twitter girl Micaela cancelled because she's wasn't feeling good, but we later rescheduled.
Boate Fernanda cancelled because she woke up late.
Clinic didn't cancel, but said I had the appointment and within 10 minutes of confirming the appointment she left.
I feel like I'm missing another cancellation.
Literaly every appointment I've made had been cancelled or rescheduled. I'm not a bad looking guy, and I've taken girls back purely on my looks and charm. I pay well, fuck good and lick a mean as pussy. It's probably bad luck, but I do a lot and I don't have time to waste. I have next week off and more flexibility.I'm going to SP in 3 days and this is what I fear for the most part.
I've been to SP 3 times now and the options are vast and fantastic which is good and bad thing.
Good thing is you'll have tons of options and have something different everynight (sometimes I want a blonde, sometimes a redhead, sometimes a girl with tan lines and others just porcelain pale).
Bad thing is that it can be overwhelming at some points and when things fall apart you really feel it because you know you had other options. Do you pick to stay in and have a girl come over, go out and try your luck at the boates or just call a try and true girl you sessioned before? So many options.
I'm only going to be there for 1 week then heading out to rio.
So it's always best to be flexible if you can.
You sometimes have to make quick hard decisions or else you'll get shafted.
Currently I've been messaging some girls on Seeking plus hitting up some online girls setting up dates so once I land I can look forward to that and if they get flaky then I can move on since I gave them plenty of notice.
I don't use twitter girls mainly because I don't like twitter itself and I see most girls there are amateurs or semi pros. Granted there are some real pros on twitter as well.
I use private55, clubmodel, SP Love and BarriasVIP SP version and the thing about that is that the girls have to pay for their post on their. The sites charge anywhere from 500 BRL to 3000 BRL depending on different factors (how high up on the list they want to be, how long the post is up, etc) so the girls on those sites are usually less flaky since they need to recoup their post cost. With twitter girls there is no cost so they don't mind blowing off a guy since they have nothing to lose. Also online girls can see that you're an american with you're +1 country code so they can probably tell that you'll only be here for a few days to 2 weeks at most like most of us and so they'll probably flake less since you can be leaving soon and they can lose a payday or even a repeat. There are some scams on there as well but use your best judgement and like I said they have to pay to have their post up so it's less likely.
I find that meeting a girl at her place is more likely to secure the meet since they don't have to rush and get dolled up and then order a cab and all that. Not my favorite since I like the rooms I pick when staying sao paulo but is best for less headaches if you don't mind.
Always expect a girl to be 1 hour behind. They are never on time. So try to schedule one hour in advance and then they'll be on time. If you try to plan your schedule to a T, then these girls will mess you up.
I like to do clinicas at noon and then get an online girl over at 3-5 pm and then get ready to go out to the boates at 9 pm.
A nice spread for the day.
One of the three might not go through but 2 out of 3 aint bad.
SP is a big and crazy city. Everyone is busy and the hustle and bustle is real.
You have to work a bit to get it to work for you but when it does it pays out big time.
The Critic
09-02-22, 09:47
Hello Everyone,Outstanding Series of Posts regarding SP experience. Excellent writing style and detailed report.
I hope your experience with SP improves, It's a wonderful city with a good selection of activities. If not having fun by yourself maybe having a wingman may help. Cancellations are never good but sometimes par for the course.
Look forward to your future posts.
The Critic
09-02-22, 10:04
I'm going to SP in 3 days and this is what I fear for the most part.
I've been to SP 3 times now and the options are vast and fantastic which is good and bad thing.
Good thing is you'll have tons of options and have something different everynight (sometimes I want a blonde, sometimes a redhead, sometimes a girl with tan lines and others just porcelain pale).
Bad thing is that it can be overwhelming at some points and when things fall apart you really feel it because you know you had other options. Do you pick to stay in and have a girl come over, go out and try your luck at the boates or just call a try and true girl you sessioned before? So many options.
I find that meeting a girl at her place is more likely to secure the meet since they don't have to rush and get dolled up and then order a cab and all that. Not my favorite since I like the rooms I pick when staying sao paulo but is best for less headaches if you don't mind.
Always expect a girl to be 1 hour behind. They are never on time. So try to schedule one hour in advance and then they'll be on time. If you try to plan your schedule to a T, then these girls will mess you up.
SP is a big and crazy city. Everyone is busy and the hustle and bustle is real.
You have to work a bit to get it to work for you but when it does it pays out big time.All True, Got to stay nimble. Cancellations can put a wrench in days activities but you got to shake it off. Always have a Plan-BB (sometimes Plan-CC as well, LOL).
Question: Do you feel safe and secure going to a GP's place? I would feel you could be placed in a sketchy situation and bad service could be the norm. Also you have no recourse if things go south.
Axel Heyst
09-02-22, 15:37
All True, Got to stay nimble. Cancellations can put a wrench in days activities but you got to shake it off. Always have a Plan-BB (sometimes Plan-CC as well, LOL).
Question: Do you feel safe and secure going to a GP's place? I would feel you could be placed in a sketchy situation and bad service could be the norm. Also you have no recourse if things go south.Cancelations are not a problem for me because I rarely use call girl services. 99% of the girls I invite over are Boate girls I already know and have very good relations with. They never cancel and are very rarely late. But once in a blue moon I do reach out to a call girl if she is really hot. When I make plans with a call girl it is always for the same day. No 2 or 3 days in advance. If we arrange to meet at my hotel, I will pick a convenient time when I have nothing else to do like between 6 pm & 8 pm. That way my plans are never at risk if the girl is a no show. I will give a girl an hour leeway. If she has not arrived within an hour of our agreed time, the date is off, and I get ready to visit a boate instead. Going to a girl's apartment is a viable alternative, however, which can also be a lot of fun. Just check google maps to see where she lives before making final plans. All the call girls that I have visited live in pretty secure, safe apartment buildings, so there was never any risk to me. But if in doubt schedule a date at her place while it is still daylight. There is a zero chance of a cancelation when you schedule an appointment to visit to a call girl's apartment within a couple of hours of talking with her.
All True, Got to stay nimble. Cancellations can put a wrench in days activities but you got to shake it off. Always have a Plan-BB (sometimes Plan-CC as well, LOL).
Question: Do you feel safe and secure going to a GP's place? I would feel you could be placed in a sketchy situation and bad service could be the norm. Also you have no recourse if things go south.I've heard of some stories of how there was a guy or pimp hiding in the other room or closet to protect the girl but those guys always found their girls on PA which is why I never use it. It's too sketchy and shady stuff like this.
Currently I'm staying in an Airbnb in a condominium. It's a nice one but it's not a hotel and these girl like the security of knowing that they are not meeting Ted bundy and the hotel will definitely check in if things get weird. Had a girl tell me how she went to some guys house and he was just giving off really strange vibes and he offered her a glass of water and when she declined he insisted she drink it. She left and when she went downstairs she noticed that there was a guy who was his friend waiting in a car with the trunk open. There was a guard at the place so she asked for his helped and she got out safely.
Really wild stuff and is a POV that is guys don't get.
Usually when you go to a girls place they have someone at the front desk to get your ID and check you in. Again it's just a piece of mind for them.
Currently trying to meet with a online girl but she won't come to my condo so we're going to meet up in a love motel like lush or apple and I like it better actually because I've been trying to see this girl for a year now and I want to see myself hang her in all the different angles from the mirrors LOL.
Staying in an Airbnb in an apartment building this trip. Close to the mall in Moema. Will be here for over a month.
First night met up with my last trips favorite Scandallo gal. Tier 2, solid 7. Tall thinner gal. Pizza and stayed the night. Negotiated for 900 prior to trip. She hates her work at Scandallo. I told her I would see her a few times a week and she was happy to stay the night for 900. BBFS and CIM.
Friday night went to Casarao club. Was sausage fest. Very few doable girls. Was going to leave at 1 am But more girls started arriving. Stayed until 2:30. One dark skinned gal was interesting but could not get a good vibe. Quality was low compared to last trip in May.
Had planned on meeting a Serking gal I had talked to last trip. She got cold feet at last minute, claiming I was her first foreigner and thought language barrier would be too awkward. Money not discussed.
Pretty thin blonde gal, model type body, tall thin. Was going to meet her again this trip but price is now 2000 to spend the night. Not paying 400 ish USA Too bad, she was pretty.
Another gal I met in club last trip I sent message to. I asked how much. 1000 for the night. I pinned her down about her services. No kissing on face and covered everything. No thanks! Saw her at club last night. She came and said Hi, stood in front of me and danced sexy. Was quickly snatched up by another guy in the over populated club of men. Ratio, guessing 4 guys to 1 gal. Sellers market.
I was excited to come again. Not feeling the vibe quite yet.
Typing on phone, apologies if poor grammar / style.
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Question: Do you feel safe and secure going to a GP's place? I would feel you could be placed in a sketchy situation and bad service could be the norm. Also you have no recourse if things go south.I now always figure out how to get out after entering before seeing the girl. Usually it is a button located somewhere but not always. If a girl is charging 400 or more, the place likely won't be too bad. I think there is a relationship between the quality of the session with the quality of the room. Some have nice one bedroom, and clean towel wrapped in plastic for every session, these sessions have been mostly good.
Any advice on where to watch a college football game in Jardim Paulista? It is a an evening game USA time so it will probably be on late in the evening in São Paulo.
Gigi Buffon
09-04-22, 23:43
Any advice on where to watch a college football game in Jardim Paulista? It is a an evening game USA time so it will probably be on late in the evening in So Paulo.O'Malley'S located in Alameda Itu. They show a lot of game from overseas, including college NCAA, rugby, football, etc.
SocratesNY
09-05-22, 02:37
Any advice on where to watch a college football game in Jardim Paulista? It is a an evening game USA time so it will probably be on late in the evening in So Paulo.O'Malley's Bar (best chance).
Or.
The Blue Pub.
Do yourself a favor by NOT calling those phone numbers: they are from an agency, that does bait an switch, does not deliver on advertised services, has girls that really do not like what they do and want to end the session ASAP.
https://mclass.com/acompanhantes/leticia-lins/ (11) 93XXXX112.
https://mclass.com/acompanhantes/nanda/ (11) 99XXXX698.
They offer a rate of are $ 1,300 for 2 hours and do not ask you to send a Uber to pickup the girl. That might be the key to recognize that agency.
They also place ads in other websites like:
https://myescortgirls.com.br/escorts-in-sao-paulo/fresh-female-escorts-in-jardins-avenida-paulista-sp/ 11) 99XXXX691.
And I suspect in those other websites:
https://escortgirlbrazil.com.br/
https://escortsvogue.com/
Thanks. Will check it out.
ChrisLooker
09-05-22, 21:05
I'm kind of new at the international mongering. What does 'no frills' mean on the ads? Thanks.
GringoItaliano
09-08-22, 06:33
What is the status of the on-site / nearby session rooms at Cafe Photo? I saw when I was RTFF'ing for my upcoming trip that their on-site session rooms or nearby motel was / were unavailable as of February 2022. What is the current status of those renovations? Are on-site / nearby rooms still unavailable? If so, are they still waiving the exit fees to take girls off-site, since on-site / nearby sessions are impossible?
GringoItaliano
09-08-22, 10:34
As I have been RTFF'ing in preparation for my upcoming first trip to So Paulo, I have not noticed that any specific clinicas seem to stand out strongly or clearly from the others, or at least not to the degree that the club Scandallo stands out in a class by itself, head and shoulders above all other clubs. Even with the casas in Medellin (I am a Colombia vet), New Life, Energy, and Loutron stand out among the casas. Many individual guys strongly like certain clinicas or dislike other ones, but I did not see a clear pattern or ranking overall.
Is it fair to say that the differences between the clinicas are not as big as the differences between the clubs, and that there is less of a hierarchy among them? Is it even fair to say that they are not that different from and quite similar to each other?
Or, in your opinion and experience, are there certain clinicas that really distinguish themselves from the others, for better or for worse? Are there any specific "go-to" clinicas that you would recommend more highly for a first-time SP visitor who is otherwise a seasoned monger, like I would recommend New Life or Energy in Medellin? Or should I just do a tour of that popular cluster of clinicas in Moema and figure out for myself which specific one works best for me?
Do any of them have a particular emphasis or focus in female body types, like the abundance of T&A at Dr. Amor in Cali? I am a T&A kind of guy with no aversion to extensive silicone.
FlowState985
09-08-22, 19:32
should I just do a tour of that popular cluster of clinicas in Moema and figure out for myself which specific one works best for me?
Do any of them have a particular emphasis or focus in female body types, like the abundance of T&A at Dr. Amor in Cali? I am a T&A kind of guy with no aversion to extensive silicone.This. Because everyone has a preference on body type and looks so each clinica will have different showing. If you like a nicer room, I've been to Carinas and it definitely has a nicer room with a lot of mirror to see your own action, although you can only see the girls through a tablet. I believe Abbobora has nicer room as well based on posts.
I am currently in Sao Paulo (SP is used on Twitter and other websites). My second trip and been here a week.
First, you will quickly notice the beauty of the average Brazilian as you explore. Ok, I got your attention. The beauty of the average woman you will see here is NOT good. Streets, restaurants, malls, wherever. I would venture most are below average in looks and overweight.
Second, compared to Colombia, the pedestrian is not a target. People are not arrogant buttwipe drivers, though you will see high end cars in the Moema area.
Clinicas this trip. Went to four so far. You won't see alot of silicone at lower end places. I saw one doll at club 57, but she had a bit of arrogance about her. So never approached her.
Send me a pm If you are a member here or just post your trip dates. I have been to 3 clubs and often leave between 3 and 430 am They are fun. Scandallo has some pretty woman but they are expensive. I have not sessioned with anything over an 8 or so in looks.
Post your trip dates.
Lotus, the massage place, has the most silicone but is also most expensive. About 130 USA For an hour.
Sorry for typos and poor sentence structure. Phone typing.
I am currently in Sao Paulo (SP is used on Twitter and other websites). My second trip and been here a week.
First, you will quickly notice the beauty of the average Brazilian as you explore. Ok, I got your attention. The beauty of the average woman you will see here is NOT good. Streets, restaurants, malls, wherever. I would venture most are below average in looks and overweight.
Second, compared to Colombia, the pedestrian is not a target. People are not arrogant buttwipe drivers, though you will see high end cars in the Moema area.
Clinicas this trip. Went to four so far. You won't see alot of silicone at lower end places. I saw one doll at club 57, but she had a bit of arrogance about her. So never approached her.
Send me a pm If you are a member here or just post your trip dates. I have been to 3 clubs and often leave between 3 and 430 am They are fun. Scandallo has some pretty woman but they are expensive. I have not sessioned with anything over an 8 or so in looks.
Post your trip dates.
Lotus, the massage place, has the most silicone but is also most expensive. About 130 USA For an hour.
Sorry for typos and poor sentence structure. Phone typing.
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