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Nebulousity
09-08-22, 23:04
Is it fair to say that the differences between the clinicas are not as big as the differences between the clubs, and that there is less of a hierarchy among them? Is it even fair to say that they are not that different from and quite similar to each other?The Clinicas really do work together as a collective set of options, but here are a few subtle differences:
Prime: Consistently high IOP, medium facilities.
Tangara: More newcomers, medium low facilities, open Sundays.
Carinas: Medium IOP, medium high facilities, tablet selection.
Lotus: Medium IOP, medium high facilities, 3 x expensive, Ave 2 x looks.
Abbobora: Medium IOP, medium facilities, large selection.
Miruna: Medium IOP, medium facilities, Ave. 75 x looks.
I didn't read much about these very brasilian houses. The republicas.
They are houses where brazilians rent rooms for long terms, months or even years, and share services. As you may imagine these houses are meant to live in the economy. They are not airbnb places.
I lived in these houses for months, sharing the kitchen, washing machines, fridge with office workers, security guards, teachers, post graduate students, etc etc and escort girls.
Well, being this forum escort oriented, I will tell about one of these girls.
There are frequent weekend churrascos (grilled meat reunions) with the neighboors, where beer, cachaça, samba, feijoada, great meat and of course sex flows as normal. Two of my GFs came from those great reunions. One was a lovely nurse in her late thirties. That's another story.
Well, escort girls were easy to identify. They sleep until very late, leave in super tight dresses (covered with coats), smelling like queens (cheirosas), arrive super early in the morning making big noise when walking on heels and smelling like a sack of cigars.
There was one who was a solid athlete. Around 2 pm she went to the gym to work out every day. We came across in the kitchen a few times, and finally we shared a few words.
She used to go the clubs mentioned here on ISG, that month she was working in bomboa. For my tastes she was a 7.
We fucked 3 times during the next weeks, all of them paid. Once in my room, the others in her room where I stayed until noon. The girl of clean service (faxina) thought we were couple because she saw me leaving her room one sunny Sao Paulo morning. Very nice woman, she said we made a nice couple. I don't think so, this girl was a vigorexic, my GFs tend to be the oposite.
One day the escort girl simply left the republica. Her room was accupied by an old divorced guy one week later. He used to speak for hours with his daughters over the phone. Loud in one of the patios of the republica.
Great cultural experience in those houses as you can imagine. When I studied portuguese back in late 1990's, I thought I had studied portuguese. Nothing farther from reality.
Real portuguese in the republicas.
Landed in SP earlier this week. I went to the famous Scandallo in search for the famous and elusive IOP that many here talked about. Met Jessica who said she was 28, lived in Morumbi, had a 2 year old boy, used to be a nurse and worked as a GP full time without her family knowing. The first session with her was like other sessions I had had before in my last trip, which barely met the definition of GFE. However, a lot of members commented and hinted that true GFE could have been unlocked if I had wined and dined the GP. I heeded the advice this time and set up a time with Jessica for some wine and dine. She looked at the menu and at first ordered the most expensive item, but she changed her mind and instead ordered 2 items, which added up to the value of the most expensive one. And she couldn't even finish half of each of the 2 items she ordered. Back to my room, her performance was worse, way worse than the first session. She claimed she was tired and just lay there, gave weak kisses, and totally tried her best to hide her tongue, it was like kissing the black hole inside her mouth. After I finished the first round, she excused herself to use the bathroom, took quite a while for her to finish, she came out with the towel on and then put her clothes on, claiming the AC made her cold. I was still trying to be nice and boyfriend like and let her rest in her clothes with the AC now set at 28 (it was 25 before). An hour later, I tried again, this time she was on her phone the whole time, and after a bit she claimed that it got sensitive down there and hurt a little. I got enough of the *****, paid her and told her to get the fuck out.
Her picture is below. She's about 5'6'- 5'8'. Deep voice (kind of like a boy in puberty). One of her friends is a morena clara with the bang combed to the left side with monolid eyes. Jessica has 3 big warts on her back that is very easy to feel at least 1 of them if you caress her back.
For now I'm going to clinicas and will return to Scandallo for another try next week.
Axel Heyst
09-09-22, 14:41
I didn't read much about these very brasilian houses. The republicas.
They are houses where brazilians rent rooms for long terms, months or even years, and share services. As you may imagine these houses are meant to live in the economy. They are not airbnb places.
I lived in these houses for months, sharing the kitchen, washing machines, fridge with office workers, security guards, teachers, post graduate students, etc etc and escort girls.
Well, being this forum escort oriented, I will tell about one of these girls.
There are frequent weekend churrascos (grilled meat reunions) with the neighboors, where beer, cachaa, samba, feijoada, great meat and of course sex flows as normal. Two of my GFs came from those great reunions. One was a lovely nurse in her late thirties. That's another story.
Well, escort girls were easy to identify. They sleep until very late, leave in super tight dresses (covered with coats), smelling like queens (cheirosas), arrive super early in the morning making big noise when walking on heels and smelling like a sack of cigars.
There was one who was a solid athlete. Around 2 pm she went to the gym to work out every day. We came across in the kitchen a few times, and finally we shared a few words.
She used to go the clubs mentioned here on ISG, that month she was working in bomboa. For my tastes she was a 7.
We fucked 3 times during the next weeks, all of them paid. Once in my room, the others in her room where I stayed until noon. The girl of clean service (faxina) thought we were couple because she saw me leaving her room one sunny Sao Paulo morning. Very nice woman, she said we made a nice couple. I don't think so, this girl was a vigorexic, my GFs tend to be the oposite.
One day the escort girl simply left the republica. Her room was accupied by an old divorced guy one week later. He used to speak for hours with his daughters over the phone. Loud in one of the patios of the republica.
Great cultural experience in those houses as you can imagine. When I studied portuguese back in late 1990's, I thought I had studied portuguese. Nothing farther from reality.
Real portuguese in the republicas.Great report HiddenEye. I can only begin to imagine what it was like to live in a republicas. Your total immersion must have been an amazing experience. And thanks for introducing me to a new word: vigorexic. I fnumber of my Brazilian girls exercise fairly regularly to stay trim, but none so far would fall into the vigorexic category. I look forward to sampling one at some future date. KKK.
Axel Heyst
09-09-22, 16:31
Landed in SP earlier this week. I went to the famous Scandallo in search for the famous and elusive IOP that many here talked about. Met Jessica who said she was 28, lived in Morumbi, had a 2 year old boy, used to be a nurse and worked as a GP full time without her family knowing. The first session with her was like other sessions I had had before in my last trip, which barely met the definition of GFE. However, a lot of members commented and hinted that true GFE could have been unlocked if I had wined and dined the GP. I heeded the advice this time and set up a time with Jessica for some wine and dine. She looked at the menu and at first ordered the most expensive item, but she changed her mind and instead ordered 2 items, which added up to the value of the most expensive one. And she couldn't even finish half of each of the 2 items she ordered. Back to my room, her performance was worse, way worse than the first session. She claimed she was tired and just lay there, gave weak kisses, and totally tried her best to hide her tongue, it was like kissing the black hole inside her mouth. After I finished the first round, she excused herself to use the bathroom, took quite a while for her to finish, she came out with the towel on and then put her clothes on, claiming the AC made her cold. I was still trying to be nice and boyfriend like and let her rest in her clothes with the AC now set at 28 (it was 25 before). An hour later, I tried again, this time she was on her phone the whole time, and after a bit she claimed that it got sensitive down there and hurt a little. I got enough of the *****, paid her and told her to get the fuck out.
Her picture is below. She's about 5'6'- 5'8'. Deep voice (kind of like a boy in puberty). One of her friends is a morena clara with the bang combed to the left side with monolid eyes. Jessica has 3 big warts on her back that is very easy to feel at least 1 of them if you caress her back.
For now I'm going to clinicas and will return to Scandallo for another try next week.I think it is interesting that Jessica was good enough in her 1st session with you to warrant a 2nd and that she was a fucking disaster in her 2nd session. Who knows what can account for the change. But in the long run it does not matter. She belongs on your dump list and that is where she should remain in perpetuity. I would only recommend that in the future you feed your girls after boom boom, not before. Also, for a slight change in venue, I suggest you give Bomboa a try. I always received good to great service there. In addition, I am very sure you will have a much better time when you decide to return to Scandallo. Jessica was an anomaly bad fuck for one reason or another. She is definitely not representative of most Scandallo girls, but next time offer your girl a drink or two before sex and reward to good girls with dinner afterwards if you feel like it. KKK. It is entirely up to you.
Gabbarsing
09-09-22, 19:05
Yep, I went to Scandello many times last week and it was very sub par experience and very disappointed at times. Lot of scam and shady non-GFE services lately. It is like finding gems from the hay. Usually biggest advantage of scandello is having so many 100+ girls in one floor. But then it becomes a disadvantage. Because now you have to screen so many of them to make sure you get the GFE vibe. You can't just straight up ask girl about this as first liner. On average conversation with each girl takes 20+ minutes. (at least for me). At times I felt other clubs with limited # of girls may be a better bet.
Landed in SP earlier this week. I went to the famous Scandallo in search for the famous and elusive IOP that many here talked about. Met Jessica who said she was 28, lived in Morumbi, had a 2 year old boy, used to be a nurse and worked as a GP full time without her family knowing. The first session with her was like other sessions I had had before in my last trip, which barely met the definition of GFE. However, a lot of members commented and hinted that true GFE could have been unlocked if I had wined and dined the GP. I heeded the advice this time and set up a time with Jessica for some wine and dine. She looked at the menu and at first ordered the most expensive item, but she changed her mind and instead ordered 2 items, which added up to the value of the most expensive one. And she couldn't even finish half of each of the 2 items she ordered. Back to my room, her performance was worse, way worse than the first session. She claimed she was tired and just lay there, gave weak kisses, and totally tried her best to hide her tongue, it was like kissing the black hole inside her mouth. After I finished the first round, she excused herself to use the bathroom, took quite a while for her to finish, she came out with the towel on and then put her clothes on, claiming the AC made her cold. I was still trying to be nice and boyfriend like and let her rest in her clothes with the AC now set at 28 (it was 25 before). An hour later, I tried again, this time she was on her phone the whole time, and after a bit she claimed that it got sensitive down there and hurt a little. I got enough of the *****, paid her and told her to get the fuck out.
Her picture is below. She's about 5'6'- 5'8'. Deep voice (kind of like a boy in puberty). One of her friends is a morena clara with the bang combed to the left side with monolid eyes. Jessica has 3 big warts on her back that is very easy to feel at least 1 of them if you caress her back.
For now I'm going to clinicas and will return to Scandallo for another try next week.
Thanks for the quote Axel. I didn't mention republicas have their own guest policies, and entrances to them have security cams. As any place in the world these days.
But for Brazilians rules are made to be broken jajajaja but be sure not to brake them too often, otherwise you're out. For someone who will start the day very early, it's not a blessing to have a monger in the next room. Very thin walls, believe me.
Fortunately, my schedule started very early most of the days because of tech courses.
I didn't mention this vigorexic escort had great cream and body oil in her room, she had her skills.
Great report HiddenEye. I can only begin to imagine what it was like to live in a republicas. Your total immersion must have been an amazing experience. And thanks for introducing me to a new word: vigorexic. I number of my Brazilian girls exercise fairly regularly to stay trim, but none so far would fall into the vigorexic category. I look forward to sampling one at some future date. KKK.
I think it is interesting that Jessica was good enough in her 1st session with you to warrant a 2nd and that she was a fucking disaster in her 2nd session. Who knows what can account for the change. But in the long run it does not matter. She belongs on your dump list and that is where she should remain in perpetuity. I would only recommend that in the future you feed your girls after boom boom, not before. Also, for a slight change in venue, I suggest you give Bomboa a try. I always received good to great service there. In addition, I am very sure you will have a much better time when you decide to return to Scandallo. Jessica was an anomaly bad fuck for one reason or another. She is definitely not representative of most Scandallo girls, but next time offer your girl a drink or two before sex and reward to good girls with dinner afterwards if you feel like it. KKK. It is entirely up to you.The first session with her was OK like others I had had in Scandallo, which was nothing to rave about. But I wanted that true GFE so many in here seem to have found, that's why I wanted to try and treat her like a girlfriend so that her performance would improve per the advices here in this forum.
I treated her very well, accommodated the time for when it was the most convenient for her and not for me. I was chivalrous the whole time. I really put in the work hoping I would get that IOP that people here raved about.
For her I think Jessica thought I fell for her and so she could do whatever she wants. She is one of those selfish people who fully take advantage of any generosity and not reciprocate. I've met this kind before in my life, totally selfish, opportunistic, lack empathy, ethics, and reflection, unfeeling and cold-hearted toward the pain and suffering they cause others. They view human and ethical considerations as weaknesses. They think that rules are meant to be broken, and that's how they WIN.
I'm still fuming thinking about how I was treated.
...I can only begin to imagine what it was like to live in a republicas.... KKK.I think there are a few in Centro. Starting from 15 BRL a day to under 400 BRL a month.
Yep, I went to Scandello many times last week and it was very sub par experience and very disappointed at times. ...Why did you go many times when it was sub par?
... You can't just straight up ask girl about this as first liner. ...Not sure what you mean? This is the only way I know how to do it since I don't speak Portuguese.
Me: do you kiss.
Girl: yes.
Me: lets find a place to talk.
Both: starting kissing and make out, you can do this as long as you want.
The only thing one can't do in the club is having sex.
I observed some local men, some would occupy a girl for hours, holding hand walking around and doing stuff, sometimes did not finish the deal. You can find my past reports talking about some of it. If you think about the deal as a whole for a few hours, finished with sex in the room, then it is not a bad deal. I would say it is a good deal actually if one can converse in Portuguese.
My observation is the number of girls each night varies, I don't think there is a rule. The most girls I have seen is about 200 and that is when you have to wait for the room which is a good sign that this night is good.
Gabbarsing
09-10-22, 17:55
Because some night I do end finding gem so greedy me kept alluding there. But on a hindsight I think I could have done better (problem is I don't know what could have been better) - it is one of those things "you don't know what you don't know" (if you know what I mean).
Anyhow, I don't directly ask straight up questions like you have "Do you kiss" -- may be I should (idk).
One thing I learned, is each visit to Brazil makes you a better monger.
Why did you go many times when it was sub par?
Not sure what you mean? This is the only way I know how to do it since I don't speak Portuguese.
Me: do you kiss.
Girl: yes.
Me: lets find a place to talk.
Both: starting kissing and make out, you can do this as long as you want.
The only thing one can't do in the club is having sex.
I observed some local men, some would occupy a girl for hours, holding hand walking around and doing stuff, sometimes did not finish the deal. You can find my past reports talking about some of it. If you think about the deal as a whole for a few hours, finished with sex in the room, then it is not a bad deal. I would say it is a good deal actually if one can converse in Portuguese.
My observation is the number of girls each night varies, I don't think there is a rule. The most girls I have seen is about 200 and that is when you have to wait for the room which is a good sign that this night is good.
Axel Heyst
09-10-22, 19:35
Yep, I went to Scandallo many times last week and it was very sub par experience and very disappointed at times. Lot of scam and shady non-GFE services lately. It is like finding gems from the hay. Usually biggest advantage of Scandallo is having so many 100+ girls in one floor. But then it becomes a disadvantage. Because now you have to screen so many of them to make sure you get the GFE vibe. You can't just straight up ask girl about this as first liner. On average conversation with each girl takes 20+ minutes. (at least for me). At times I felt other clubs with limited # of girls may be a better bet. As Nounce points out, the great advantage of boate and terma venues is the hands-on audition / interview where a punter can get to know a girl a little before making a commitment. You never know how good the sex is going to be until you are having the sex but passing an audition with flying colors is the best indication, I know of what is to come later in a room.
I enjoy the hunt inside Scandallo and other boates. I enjoy flirting and fooling around with the girls over a drink or two. It reminds me of picking up girls in a bar or night club except that boate girls always say yes (for a price). KKK. That may be the key to my solid success rate later in the room. I enjoy the preliminaries and I never take a girl upstairs who does not pass the audition with flying colors which means I never take a girl that I have not established a good vibe with. My strategy is not perfect, but it eliminates 95% of the bad experiences we are talking about.
Yet some punters don't like to buy drinks and audition girls. That's fine. To each his own. For guys that prefer point & shoot you have the clinicas and prive's where the girls work for the house, so the house more or less takes responsibility for the quality of service rendered, and customers pay the house not the girls.
Why did you go many times when it was sub-par? Not sure what you mean? This is the only way I know how to do it since I don't speak Portuguese.
Me: do you kiss. Girl: yes. Me: lets find a place to talk. Both: starting kissing and make out, you can do this as long as you want.
The only thing one can't do in the club is having sex.
If you think about the deal as a whole for a few hours, finished with sex in the room, then it is not a bad deal. I would say it is a good deal actually if one can converse in Portuguese. Yeah, I am a big fan of hands on the wheel test driving. My favorite spot is towards the back of the patio courtyard bar. Not very many people about, but who cares anyway. KKK. Google Translate helps as long as the ambient bar noise does not crowd out your voice, otherwise you have to hit the keyboards.
The first session with her was OK like others I had had in Scandallo, which was nothing to rave about. But I wanted that true GFE so many in here seem to have found, that's why I wanted to try and treat her like a girlfriend so that her performance would improve per the advice here in this forum.
I treated her very well, accommodated the time for when it was the most convenient for her and not for me. I was chivalrous the whole time. I really put in the work hoping I would get that IOP that people here raved about.
For her I think Jessica thought I fell for her and so she could do whatever she wants. She is one of those selfish people who fully take advantage of any generosity and not reciprocate. I've met this kind before in my life, totally selfish, opportunistic, lack empathy, ethics, and reflection, unfeeling and cold-hearted toward the pain and suffering they cause others. They view human and ethical considerations as weaknesses. They think that rules are meant to be broken, and that's how they WIN.
I'm still fuming thinking about how I was treated. Fuhgeddaboudher man. She is the loser, not you. There are thousands of real nice Sao Paulo girls that are genuinely sweet and want to orgasm and fuck the daylights out of you. Go get them. We have all had a loser session once in a while. There is nothing to worry about as long as it remains a rare event.
I too go to Scandallo, but more for the atmosphere of a high end club with the possibility of bedding someone. I actually go and often spend 200 USA on drinks / food. I go thinking I won't session.
I do get numbers and sometimes meet outside the club if the vibe was good.
Having said that, I prefer the much different atmosphere of Casarao and for some reason get approched more often by the prettier girls. There are of course less hotties, but with 5-10 8's walking around my odds are good. Met a smoking hot 9 last week. Playboy hot. Face, thin waist, nice medium size ass, and bolt ONS. Dressed to kill. Bought her the drink but the bive wasn't there. She approched me at least 3 more times that night, but did not go with. Hung out with a few 7's until 330 and left without taking anyone. Had a great night. (I nutted during the day at the clinacas).
Friday woke up with hangover and thought I needed to take a night off. Went to a local club promising myself to drink water. An hour later. Drinking beer. Hooked up with a cutie and she promised a good time. But two other local guys convinced me to leave the place and go to another club with them. I know, sounds like a bad idea and I declined. Got one of their WhatsApp numbers and about 15 minutes after they left, got a text. Come to the club, ALOT better woman.
Damn, struck gold. Walked in and 25 woman maybe 10 guys. I immediately spot my type of gal but just smile and promise myself to look around for 15 minutes. I like the model type body. There were at least 4 that were 8's and 1 TALL asian looking beauty I would rate a 9. Dressed in long elegant gown with heals. She was sitting with a guy so I scratched her off list. I went back to the lady dressed in a shorter leather skirt and grey high heals. Damn. Solid 8. Local guy came over and because it was his birthday I offered him first dabs on her. She told him she preffered to have a drink with me.
Next 3 hours drank vodka mixed drinks with her. Birthday guy bought a bottle and asked me to join his party. Eventually this girl is cuddling, hand holding, rubbning my back. Pure GFE without the ball rubbing pse stuff many do in the clubs. Twice I have had girls reach into my pants. So I am getting drunk and in English I say, can I lick your face. Of course she doesn't understand but says NO. I laugh and repeat it. She asks for Google translator and I type in I am joking, but can I lick your face. She replies on the translator, can I lick your balls. Party until 4 am. Back to my room for 500 to her and exit fee. She goes to bathroom and comes out in neglige, stockings, heals. Fifteen minute strip TEASE. Full on sex for over an hour. Finally nutted on her face and wanted to sleep. She wanted more sex. Blew me for another 20 minutes trying to get round two out of me. She finally says she has to go home, no kids, but two dogs. Everytime she gets partially dressed she is stopping and blowing me in different positions. She tries to take off her clothes again but I convince her to go.
So those that are not getting GFE. It's you. I have my failures but the secret sauce is to have fun and get the girl to LIKE you. If you are a pretty boy and think that's all you need to get GFE. You are dead wrong. You might be able to get the 8's and 9's, but put time into them. Treat THEM like girlfriends and get to know THEM.
Oh, the tall asain gal was free shortly after I had already invited my eventual girlfriend for the night to myntable. The tall japanese looking remained free all night. Damn I'll be back.
Which club am I speaking about? Not going to disclose. Don't stick to the well known clubs. Venture out. Be a person, not a sex hound. You will get your GFE mixed with PSE.
Side note. I am 60 plus. I can do it. You can too.
Second side note. Hopefully won't start an unitended race debate, but overheard conversation by girls when a couoke of well dressed black gentleman walked in. They both said they won't go with negroe. Not sure how the black gentleman from Europe / USA are being treated in the clubs. Clinicas girls have no choice. But maybe being shunned in the clubs?
Apologize for typos and grammar. Phone typing.
If one wants GFE, he has better chances with semi pros or non pros that could be found online (Seeking, Tinder, etc) or at regular bars / restaurants / clubs. Most of boate girls are pros, meaning they do this for living, full time. I'm not saying they can't provide GFE service, but the odds are against you. With pros, it is always a hit or miss, you never know how she will perform in bed. I don't believe in audition BS, 15-20 minutes interview won't guarantee a good service simply because pros know what to do and what to say to convince you to take her to the room. Happened to me when a girl was nice and sweet before the session, but once in the room, could not even suck my dick properly. The session was just meh. Also, I hate going into details about the service prior to sessioning. It feels weird to ask questions like, do you do BBBJ, CIM, etc, totally kills the vibe. These girls know you are in town for a few days, and most likely you won't repeat with them, because you have plenty of other options. Therefore, they are not motivated to provide a good service. Locals surely have an advantage in this regard. I think clinicas provide better value, you can get GFE there at a fraction of boate prices, and if your session sucks, no big deal, because it is cheap and your expectations are lower in the first place. When you pay Scandallo rates, you expect a full package, and if you don't get what you want, it hurts and disappoints.
Nebulousity
09-11-22, 04:12
I think clinicas provide better value, you can get GFE there at a fraction of boate prices, and if your session sucks, no big deal, because it is cheap and your expectations are lower in the first place.This facet of the Clinica experience, where the risk of a bad session is low due to the low cost per session, is certainly one of the great appeals. Especially at Tangara where it's $25 usd for 30 minutes. The trial and error process is relaxed and low risk, and even so, the accountability from the Clinica makes the error rare.
Vagabundo1
09-11-22, 07:19
Well said, especially that the better value is at clinicas / prives.
The correct answer to the question of how long you are in town is always 6 months, even if you come in to the clinica with your luggage and you are only able to speak Texan Portoguese, you are a effin engineer on exchange to Petrobras, and you are here for a living and you are just switching apartments, and yes, sticking my dick in you means I love you.
If one wants GFE, he has better chances with semi pros or non pros that could be found online (Seeking, Tinder, etc) or at regular bars / restaurants / clubs. Most of boate girls are pros, meaning they do this for living, full time. I'm not saying they can't provide GFE service, but the odds are against you. With pros, it is always a hit or miss, you never know how she will perform in bed. I don't believe in audition BS, 15-20 minutes interview won't guarantee a good service simply because pros know what to do and what to say to convince you to take her to the room. Happened to me when a girl was nice and sweet before the session, but once in the room, could not even suck my dick properly. The session was just meh. Also, I hate going into details about the service prior to sessioning. It feels weird to ask questions like, do you do BBBJ, CIM, etc, totally kills the vibe. These girls know you are in town for a few days, and most likely you won't repeat with them, because you have plenty of other options. Therefore, they are not motivated to provide a good service. Locals surely have an advantage in this regard. I think clinicas provide better value, you can get GFE there at a fraction of boate prices, and if your session sucks, no big deal, because it is cheap and your expectations are lower in the first place. When you pay Scandallo rates, you expect a full package, and if you don't get what you want, it hurts and disappoints.
Second side note. Hopefully won't start an unitended race debate, but overheard conversation by girls when a couoke of well dressed black gentleman walked in. They both said they won't go with negroe. Not sure how the black gentleman from Europe / USA are being treated in the clubs. Clinicas girls have no choice. But maybe being shunned in the clubs?
Apologize for typos and grammar. Phone typing.Maybe they said it because they felt that was what you wanted to hear?
Hello.
I am planning to visit SP alone for my btrip. Is there private guided tour w girl?
I believe I can make one day off and get guided tour and laid.
Any recommendation for who visits alone like me?
If one wants GFE, he has better chances with semi pros or non pros that could be found online (Seeking, Tinder, etc) or at regular bars / restaurants / clubs. Most of boate girls are pros, meaning they do this for living, full time. I'm not saying they can't provide GFE service, but the odds are against you. With pros, it is always a hit or miss, you never know how she will perform in bed. I don't believe in audition BS, 15-20 minutes interview won't guarantee a good service simply because pros know what to do and what to say to convince you to take her to the room. Happened to me when a girl was nice and sweet before the session, but once in the room, could not even suck my dick properly. The session was just meh. Also, I hate going into details about the service prior to sessioning. It feels weird to ask questions like, do you do BBBJ, CIM, etc, totally kills the vibe. These girls know you are in town for a few days, and most likely you won't repeat with them, because you have plenty of other options. Therefore, they are not motivated to provide a good service. Locals surely have an advantage in this regard. I think clinicas provide better value, you can get GFE there at a fraction of boate prices, and if your session sucks, no big deal, because it is cheap and your expectations are lower in the first place. When you pay Scandallo rates, you expect a full package, and if you don't get what you want, it hurts and disappoints.Pros are pros, whatever you ask them to do it wouldn't be the first or last time. Or asking during sex and she will say, not this time, never, yes, or tip her.
I usually just ask up front and when she says maybe or she will try I counter with two one price if she can and another price is can't and she ends up doing it.
Maybe they said it because they felt that was what you wanted to hear?Maybe. I had my back to them and was not talking to them. Was actually talking with another gal. So why they would be telling me something? I think my original post said I overheard them speaking. The guys that walked in appeared to me as a couple of well dressed American retired military. Would have liked to chatted 'them up, but was busy.
Sorry if I offended anyone. But if Sao Paulo is less forgiving in the night clubs for our black bretheren, then maybe it's something they would want to know before flying to SP rather than Rio?
Think I will refrain from future updates. Seems fruitless. Anyone that needs direct info, shoot me a pm.
DanAnon300
09-11-22, 17:41
Will be going thru Brazil for the first time. I will have a 9 hour layover in SP GRU during the afternoon and was hoping to get out of the airport and make use of my time. I've been digging back through past reports here and it seems these Clinicas are the best way to do this. Abbobora seems to be popular and have good reviews. Any further advice on specific Clinicas or even somewhere closer to GRU? Thanks a lot!
Maybe. I had my back to them and was not talking to them. Was actually talking with another gal. So why they would be telling me something? I think my original post said I overheard them speaking. The guys that walked in appeared to me as a couple of well dressed American retired military. Would have liked to chatted 'them up, but was busy.
Sorry if I offended anyone. But if Sao Paulo is less forgiving in the night clubs for our black bretheren, then maybe it's something they would want to know before flying to SP rather than Rio?
Think I will refrain from future updates. Seems fruitless. Anyone that needs direct info, shoot me a pm.I'm black. I stayed in Sao Paulo for 6 months last year.
I frequented most of the popular boates. Maybe not the ones you discovered.
Blackness was never really an issue at all.
Maybe some might have had some preferences here and there. But overall, compared to Asia, it was paradise.
Whatever subjective prejudices I might have perceived mostly came from the Japanese-Brazilian GPS.
SamaRiding
09-11-22, 21:59
Will be going thru Brazil for the first time. I will have a 9 hour layover in SP GRU during the afternoon and was hoping to get out of the airport and make use of my time. I've been digging back through past reports here and it seems these Clinicas are the best way to do this. Abbobora seems to be popular and have good reviews. Any further advice on specific Clinicas or even somewhere closer to GRU? Thanks a lot!No. Scandallo.
FlowState985
09-12-22, 07:09
Will be going thru Brazil for the first time. I will have a 9 hour layover in SP GRU during the afternoon and was hoping to get out of the airport and make use of my time. I've been digging back through past reports here and it seems these Clinicas are the best way to do this. Abbobora seems to be popular and have good reviews. Any further advice on specific Clinicas or even somewhere closer to GRU? Thanks a lot!You could check out Prime, and then Miruna and then Abbobora. Miruna and Abbo is one block from each other.
I'm black. I stayed in Sao Paulo for 6 months last year.
I frequented most of the popular boates. Maybe not the ones you discovered.
Blackness was never really an issue at all.
Maybe some might have had some preferences here and there. But overall, compared to Asia, it was paradise.
Whatever subjective prejudices I might have perceived mostly came from the Japanese-Brazilian GPS.Some people always find the need to make gratuitous comments on said subject like he did. They mean absolutely nothing here. Instead, he would have done better giving us a full account of the who, what, when, and where.
It depends of the time frame you'll be in Sao Paulo. I made a quick night pit stop some years ago. Here's my report:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2727385#post2727385.
Will be going thru Brazil for the first time. I will have a 9 hour layover in SP GRU during the afternoon and was hoping to get out of the airport and make use of my time. I've been digging back through past reports here and it seems these Clinicas are the best way to do this. Abbobora seems to be popular and have good reviews. Any further advice on specific Clinicas or even somewhere closer to GRU? Thanks a lot!
If one wants GFE, he has better chances with semi pros or non pros that could be found online (Seeking, Tinder, etc) or at regular bars / restaurants / clubs. Most of boate girls are pros, meaning they do this for living, full time. I'm not saying they can't provide GFE service, but the odds are against you.....Some men go to boate to look for something different like fulfilling a fantasy and they are willing to pay more for it. Personally, I go to find girl that I don't easily find elsewhere. Everything you said about Seeking and Tinder, you can do it at Scandallo and you don't need to be online. You just pay more to get result immediately and you spent less time. You will know who is the regulars once you been there a few times. You can always just ask.
... With pros, it is always a hit or miss, you never know how she will perform in bed. I don't believe in audition BS, 15-20 minutes interview won't guarantee a good service ....I don't really do interview the way you described. One of the recent girls I met at Scandallo said her agency told her to go to Scandallo, I was her first client there. She agreed to kiss, so we sat down and start kissing. She asked me how do I like the Brazillian kisses? It does not kill the vibe for me. We just kept going. I ordered her a drink. The drink came, and every time she drank from the glass, she shared with me. She never asked to go to upstairs until I said vamos. Not every encounter goes like this, but I personally think Scandallo is the easiest place to get GFE with a hot girl and this is basically my approach.
Most girls I have sessioned with are not regular at Scandallo. I actually think that is the problem with sexual performance at times because their inexperience.
... what to say to convince you to take her to the room. Happened to me when a girl was nice and sweet before the session...If the girl tell me to go upstairs, most likely I won't take her if I am not ready. I have dumped them for this simple reason.
... could not even suck my dick properly. ....This sounds more like the lack of skills. Shouldn't this happens to the least experienced girls?
Will be going thru Brazil for the first time. I will have a 9 hour layover in SP GRU during the afternoon and was hoping to get out of the airport and make use of my time. I've been digging back through past reports here and it seems these Clinicas are the best way to do this. Abbobora seems to be popular and have good reviews. Any further advice on specific Clinicas or even somewhere closer to GRU? Thanks a lot!First timer in Sampa. Not a good look. Expect to spend 1. 5-3 hours (coming / going from GRU) stuck in traffic. Happy Hunting!
DanAnon300
09-12-22, 21:10
It depends of the time frame you'll be in Sao Paulo. I made a quick night pit stop some years ago. Here's my report:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2727385#post2727385.Thanks for the advice. Flight lands around 2 PM and leaves around 9 PM. Unfortunately not a night over to try the clubs. Hopefully another time.
I'm kind of new at the international mongering. What does 'no frills' mean on the ads? Thanks.I have wondered this also?
I've heard this also. But I've heard various Brazilians say this about asians. Brazilians. Whites. Brunettes. Blondes too. Its actually very balanced and not lopsided like how it is in the US. We all here have preferences on the girls race / skin color. I for one would never go out with a girl the same race as me.
Maybe they said it because they felt that was what you wanted to hear?
......Second side note. Hopefully won't start an unitended race debate, but overheard conversation by girls when a couoke of well dressed black gentleman walked in. They both said they won't go with negroe. Not sure how the black gentleman from Europe / USA are being treated in the clubs. Clinicas girls have no choice. But maybe being shunned in the clubs?.....Never believe what a hooker says. If some people who she does not want seeing her are not around that same hooker will fuck the brains off the black dudes. Hookers rarely ever refuse money, I've seen them not refuse black men in Asia and Europe many times.
Maybe some might have had some preferences here and there. But overall, compared to Asia, it was paradise.
Whatever subjective prejudices I might have perceived mostly came from the Japanese-Brazilian GPS.A GP in Scandallo told me most girls like Asians the least. One girl also pointed out an Asian man walking by and stated that she wouldn't fuck him under any circumstances. My mind was blown, but it is what it is. It's not like most of these girls are highly educated.
A GP in Scandallo told me most girls like Asians the least. One girl also pointed out an Asian man walking by and stated that she wouldn't fuck him under any circumstances. My mind was blown, but it is what it is. It's not like most of these girls are highly educated.I'd take it easy on the girls. Attraction and aversion are funny things for women. Men will fuck almost anyone even if they have racist beliefs.
It's easy for us to say a working girl should take money from everyone. However, it's still a very personal matter.
A GP in Scandallo told me most girls like Asians the least. One girl also pointed out an Asian man walking by and stated that she wouldn't fuck him under any circumstances. My mind was blown, but it is what it is. It's not like most of these girls are highly educated.That's odd.
Last time I was in Scandallo, girls were surrounding a table of several Asian guys. Hoping to get chosen.
Asian's are known to pay well and generally be easy to please in the garota mind.
Their words to me over the years.
Approached a hot girl in Casarao a few weeks ago.
She basically blew me off, LOL, said she was waiting for one of the Asian guys to approach her.
And one did shortly thereafter.
She was a hot little magrinha, which is generally what I've seen the Asian guys gravitate towards.
Axel Heyst
09-13-22, 20:11
That's odd.
Last time I was in Scandallo, girls were surrounding a table of several Asian guys. Hoping to get chosen.
Asian's are known to pay well and generally be easy to please in the garota mind.
Their words to me over the years.
Approached a hot girl in Casarao a few weeks ago.
She basically blew me off, LOL, said she was waiting for one of the Asian guys to approach her.
And one did shortly thereafter.
She was a hot little magrinha, which is generally what I've seen the Asian guys gravitate towards.My favorite Scandallo girl, who by the way is a spinner (IE "a hot little magrinha" says Asian guys are her #1 customers. I say good for her. I don't care who she shags when I am not with her as long as she is fun to be with and continues to show me a great time when we are together.
I have wondered this also?Polyamorist explained it in one of his posts. It is to do everything at a level you normally would expect in the session, good BBBJ, good kissing and stuff like that.
That's odd.....On one slow night, there were about 1/3 of the customers were Koreans. Scandallo to them are like neighborhood bars that they hang out, a couple of them wore shorts and flip flops. Casarao has a small group of Asian regulars. A girl also mentioned to me her Asian regulars.
The Scandello girl with whom I spent a weekend with in Buzios said that a lot of the girls prefer Asian men to Brazilian. Easier to please, they don't negotiate too hard and they are more gentle. She has a Korean regular who comes in every Sunday to be with her. He wouldn't stop calling / texting all weekend either while we were together. Serious jealousy and attachment issues.
If you take a taxi from the airport and a copetent uber driver back to Guarulhos, I think you can make it.
Lots of adrenaline walking on the edge of time departure, cause 5 pm-8 pm is peak hours, as any big city.
LOL. Lots of adrenaline indeed.
There were clubs in the Guarulhos, Tatuapé metro area, but that was way before pandemics. Never tried them. I did reserve a hotel in the area when I had to do a brief stop in SP.
Thanks for the advice. Flight lands around 2 PM and leaves around 9 PM. Unfortunately not a night over to try the clubs. Hopefully another time.
I have wondered this also?No frills, sem frescura is the opposite of a girl who all the time complains and says "don't touch me there, I don't like that" or tells you that she does anal, but when it's time to do it, tells you that your dick is too big, when it is just normal size etc.
This is a dumb question but where is the entrance to Moema Prime? I walked in front yellow building but its a party supply store.
This is a dumb question but where is the entrance to Moema Prime? I walked in front yellow building but its a party supply store.Wrong house. The address is Avenida Iraí, 511.
The Scandello girl with whom I spent a weekend with in Buzios said that a lot of the girls prefer Asian men to Brazilian. Easier to please, they don't negotiate too hard and they are more gentle. She has a Korean regular who comes in every Sunday to be with her. He wouldn't stop calling / texting all weekend either while we were together. Serious jealousy and attachment issues.There are Brazilian Asians and gringo Asians, the gringos the girls flock to because they know the guys are there to fuck and spend money whereas Brazilian Asians many are there just to collect numbers for later because they know outside they can multiple hours for the same price as going up to the rooms.
BTW the girls have their own Whatsapp group chat where they talk about clients and sell stuff so they have a forum just like us.
Wrong house. The address is Avenida Ira, 511.This guy Moema Primes, thanks alot this was what g maps had. Frustrating, they do the same thing with New Life in Mde.
This guy Moema Primes, thanks a lot this was what g maps had. Frustrating, they do the same thing with New Life in Mde.I haven't been there but I looked at their website and you can see the telephone pole with the number 115 in one of their photos. The building is white on Google maps but it's been painted yellow since then.
I'm talking in general in Brazil (outside of scandallo). Its pretty even out and balanced from my experience. Some people prefers this. Others prefers that. Etc. Not like in the US where its lopsided.
Scandallo is very different. Girls go for asians because its easier to make money off of like what everyone else wrote here.
That's odd.
Last time I was in Scandallo, girls were surrounding a table of several Asian guys. Hoping to get chosen.
Asian's are known to pay well and generally be easy to please in the garota mind.
Their words to me over the years.
Approached a hot girl in Casarao a few weeks ago.
She basically blew me off, LOL, said she was waiting for one of the Asian guys to approach her.
And one did shortly thereafter.
She was a hot little magrinha, which is generally what I've seen the Asian guys gravitate towards.
That's odd.
Last time I was in Scandallo, girls were surrounding a table of several Asian guys. Hoping to get chosen.
Asian's are known to pay well and generally be easy to please in the garota mind.
Their words to me over the years.
Approached a hot girl in Casarao a few weeks ago.
She basically blew me off, LOL, said she was waiting for one of the Asian guys to approach her.
And one did shortly thereafter.
She was a hot little magrinha, which is generally what I've seen the Asian guys gravitate towards.LOL you guys have been at this game for too long you kinda forgot the normal meaning of the word like when the object is a person. "Like" here refers to attraction to a person, not to the money the person has. They used the word chines, so I'm not sure whether it limited to Chinese guys or they meant Asians in general (my bet is Asians in general). Anyway, as you guys said, if Asians pay well and demand less, of course the garotas love them because who wouldn't want more pay for less work? However, if an Asian and a non Asian both pay the same and ask for the same service, the garotas would prefer the non Asian one. That was the point. Each of them had a different order of preference, but both had Asians at the bottom. Anyway, I didn't pick neither of them because they had additional red flags.
I'm talking in general in Brazil (outside of scandallo). Its pretty even out and balanced from my experience. Some people prefers this. Others prefers that. Etc. Not like in the US where its lopsided.
Scandallo is very different. Girls go for asians because its easier to make money off of like what everyone else wrote here.Well, I agree with you, somewhat anyway. I was responding to the post from a guy who said that a garota at Scandallo told him that they (the girls) avoided Asians.
I've seen just the opposite.
Also, I dont agree thats its lopsided in the USA.
People gravitate to who they prefer as well.
FlowState985
09-14-22, 19:24
Arrived at GRU around 9 PM last night and after checked in with Hotel I headed to Casarao where I met fellow member Jet69 around 12 AM. The place was light compare to normal night around this time but there were many prospects. I would say guy to girl ratio was good 1:3 at this point. It packed around 1 AM.
Here's what I notice, I did buy a girl there a drink and she asked for my card to give to bartender, the bartender gave back my card plus a red card and she kept that red one. I assumed it is for her kickback with the place. I drank 3-4 beer plus her drink with was a mixed type of gin drink, and the total bill came out to be R174.
Around 1 PM today I went to Anavrin in Jardims. They sent pics of all the girls but I scheduled a presentation to see them in person. They only had 3 girls available at this time and it took a while sitting and waiting; Lorena (thicc), Livia (skinny morean), and Liz (she overdressed so can't see much). The pics are pretty accurate of what the girls look in person. I wanted to see Natalia, Perola, and Jennifer in person but said they were not there at this time so I picked Lorena.
Massage was decent, kinda need a decent massage anyway after a long flight. Does LFK, she held back some, and oral without. R210 for poster or R250 normal. Next time I'd just schedule for the girl via whatsapp I want based on the review and skip the presentation.
LOL you guys have been at this game for too long you kinda forgot the normal meaning of the word like when the object is a person. "Like" here refers to attraction to a person, not to the money the person has. They used the word chines, so I'm not sure whether it limited to Chinese guys or they meant Asians in general (my bet is Asians in general). Anyway, as you guys said, if Asians pay well and demand less, of course the garotas love them because who wouldn't want more pay for less work? However, if an Asian and a non Asian both pay the same and ask for the same service, the garotas would prefer the non Asian one. That was the point. Each of them had a different order of preference, but both had Asians at the bottom. Anyway, I didn't pick neither of them because they had additional red flags.So you heard 1 GP talking about the preference of most GPS. I will just take it as a grain of salt. But if most GPS tell me the same directly, instead of thru one single person, then I would consider it.
I think we all are just reporting our observation by eyes or by ears but I think it is problematic when you start making the type of argument you are making.
I know they work together and talk about us but. Never knew they have their own whatsapp group. Wow, very sophisticated LOL.
They are probably posting naked photos of everyone here in that group like how people in this forum are posting photos of them LOL.We
We need to gain access to that group so we can read and find out what their strategies for negotiating and work are so we can counterattack.....Mongers....UNITE!!!
There are Brazilian Asians and gringo Asians, the gringos the girls flock to because they know the guys are there to fuck and spend money whereas Brazilian Asians many are there just to collect numbers for later because they know outside they can multiple hours for the same price as going up to the rooms.
BTW the girls have their own Whatsapp group chat where they talk about clients and sell stuff so they have a forum just like us.
LOL you guys have been at this game for too long you kinda forgot the normal meaning of the word like when the object is a person. "Like" here refers to attraction to a person, not to the money the person has. They used the word chines, so I'm not sure whether it limited to Chinese guys or they meant Asians in general (my bet is Asians in general). Anyway, as you guys said, if Asians pay well and demand less, of course the garotas love them because who wouldn't want more pay for less work? However, if an Asian and a non Asian both pay the same and ask for the same service, the garotas would prefer the non Asian one. That was the point.And you haven't been in the game long enough to get the true overall gist of the situation, Lol.
Whatever, enjoy your time!
So you heard 1 GP talking about the preference of most GPS. I will just take it as a grain of salt. But if most GPS tell me the same directly, instead of thru one single person, then I would consider it.
I think we all are just reporting our observation by eyes or by ears but I think it is problematic when you start making the type of argument you are making.Okay, chill out, you got it all wrong.
I heard it from 2 girls not 1.
That was their argument, not mine.
This matter is not related to me, has nothing to do with me. I simply reported what they said. I only brought this up because a black guy here said he felt prejudices from the GPS, so I thought this information would make him feel better, because I'm a bro.
I know what's going on here, and I'm not participating in it, because like I said, not my problem. If you have any questions, you can ask. Other than that, I'm out of here.
LoveItHere69
09-15-22, 17:43
I was thinking of visiting Brazil next year and scanning over photoacompanhantes.com. I see it is the same as Colombia's sister site where I found only 30% of the pictures are current and real. I saw Ellen who was innocent looking 18 with huge real boobs. Two weeks later it is now Elena hardcore looking 23 year old with slightly smaller boobs. I wish I had the older (two weeks prior) pix so you guys could see the before and after like I did. Her face has changed a bit too. So basically she was posting pictures of herself but from 5 years in the past but still claiming to be 18. Just another form of bait and switch.
Okay, chill out, you got it all wrong.
I heard it from 2 girls not 1.
That was their argument, not mine.
This matter is not related to me, has nothing to do with me. I simply reported what they said. I only brought this up because a black guy here said he felt prejudices from the GPS, so I thought this information would make him feel better, because I'm a bro.
I know what's going on here, and I'm not participating in it, because like I said, not my problem. If you have any questions, you can ask. Other than that, I'm out of here.Don't fret Nice. People on this forum tend to quibble about everything. Who has agency. Who has authority to speak on a topic. Who has a moral perspective.
Stay engaged.
SocratesNY
09-16-22, 00:57
Racism, stereotyping and other generalization are of course present in boates, as it is in almost every aspect of everyday life. Everyone has their preference in terms of skin color, ethnicity, height, weight, age, body type, eye color, etc.
As a light skinned Eastern Asian American, I haven't experienced any obvious negative racism directed towards me or my other Asian friends when we visited the higher end boates in Sao Paulo (80% of my / our 40 ish visits were to Scandallo, with the rest being to Cafe Photo or Bomboa). All the girls that we were attracted to were more than happy to flirt with us, hang out with us, drink with us, make out with us in public, eat with us (whether in the club or outside the club via a dinner date, go to rooms with us, leave the club with us and of course take money and gifts from us!
Not one girl that we approached brushed us off or made an excuse to not chat with us. If anything, it was the opposite, as we had to politely turn more girls who approached us away than girls we approached ourselves. My friends and I are not shy and reserved people either. We like having a good time in a group setting and happily share our bottles with girls and local guys alike.
I've also spoken to many of the girls I've taken out of the club, many of whom become repeat overnight girls on subsequent trips. A lot of them have lots of Asian clients and many of them claim that they love Asian clients / prefer having them over local Brazilian clients, especially if they can speak Portuguese (or it matted less to not at all if the girl speaks English).
Some prefer their Asian look and culture (Usually k pop or Anime), others mention they feel Asians are more respectful of women in bed and more gentle, others say they believe Asians are less work and less demanding and on average have a smaller cock and less into anal, others say they find Asians are less cheap and negotiate less (which I find hilarious, as almost all Asians I know love to haggle, except me.), others point to Brazilian men and their machismo, etc.
I am sure most of those girls would prefer the looks of a local Brazilian guy to an Asian guy when hooking up or dating. However, many of them also has Asian boyfriends in the past. Whatever their story was, each of them was happy to see me and my friends again and again until they either 1) gets jealous and wants us to be exclusive customers or 2) they move on to bigger and better things and left the business.
So from my bigger sample size of over 150+ personal experiences with Brazilian girls in SP and RJ, and maybe 300+ if we include the experiences of my Asiam friends, we didn't experience any negative racism at Scandallo or other high end Boates or Brazil hobbying venues in general. I am sure there are some girls who don't like or prefer to spend time with Asians. Heck, when some BM said a girl pointed out a particular Asian guy and said she would never see him, she could be talking about me! I know I've had a couple of repeat relationships with Scandallo girls that eventually crashes and burned. And there is no fury like a woman scorned!
At the end of the day Money talks, bullshit walks! Unless you are in hideous shape, have horrible hygeine, have an arrogant and insufferable personality and are a total cheapskate, cash will override most form of negative racism and stereotyping the girls might have towards you.
Edit:. One thing me and 7 other ISG bros agreed on when we met up in SP last week...Asians are the most racist ethnicity, especially to /within their own race!
Negative Racism towards Asians in Boates. Racism, stereotyping and other generalization are of course present in boates, as it is in almost every aspect of everyday life. Everyone has their preference in terms of skin color, ethnicity, height, weight, age, body type, eye color, etc. ...
Your report was definitely a good read from your POV, given your experiences and Asian heritage, on the subject. Thanks!
At the end of the day Money talks, bullshit walks! Unless you are in hideous shape, have horrible hygeine, have an arrogant and insufferable personality and are a total cheapskate, cash will override most form of negative racism and stereotyping the girls might have towards you. ...
Agreed. Yeah, it's true, that for the most part, money will overcome most shit and the abundance and/or lack thereof, can also complicate matters.
FlowState985
09-16-22, 05:07
I was thinking of visiting Brazil next year and scanning over photoacompanhantes.com. I see it is the same as Colombia's sister site where I found only 30% of the pictures are current and real. I saw Ellen who was innocent looking 18 with huge real boobs. Two weeks later it is now Elena hardcore looking 23 year old with slightly smaller boobs. I wish I had the older (two weeks prior) pix so you guys could see the before and after like I did. Her face has changed a bit too. So basically she was posting pictures of herself but from 5 years in the past but still claiming to be 18. Just another form of bait and switch.It is not worth it to use Photoaccomp in SP or even Rio. You got better website option including Twitter if you are in SP. Website is just too time consuming to use. I would just stick with Clinicas and boates in SP and Prives / Termas in Rio.
Edit: One thing me and 7 other ISG bros agreed on when we met up in SP last week...Asians are the most racist ethnicity, especially to /within their own race!I'll never forget the Filipina girl in Dubai who told me that in her opinion Chinese girls were the most unattractive of all the ethnic Asian girls because they were the most "mongoloid" in their appearance. Asians on Asians. Further, she had a general "rank order" order based not only on race and ethnicity, but on nationality as well, with Americans (white and black) being first in desirability for mating. These are the kinds of things going on in people's heads, but that they don't often say aloud. It's anybody and everybody, including people who make important decisions impacting your life, like supervisors and colleagues. Unsettling. But true. It's why we need laws, because it's not like people won't act on these beliefs in all kinds of ways far more injurious to someone than telling them that they don't want to fuck them, even if they paid them.
I'll never forget the Filipina girl in Dubai who told me that in her opinion Chinese girls were the most unattractive of all the ethnic Asian girls because they were the most "mongoloid" in their appearance. Asians on Asians. Further, she had a general "rank order" order based not only on race and ethnicity, but on nationality as well, with Americans (white and black) being first in desirability for mating. These are the kinds of things going on in people's heads, but that they don't often say aloud. It's anybody and everybody, including people who make important decisions impacting your life, like supervisors and colleagues. Unsettling. But true. It's why we need laws, because it's not like people won't act on these beliefs in all kinds of ways far more injurious to someone than telling them that they don't want to fuck them, even if they paid them.Perhaps your Filipina friend thought about it a bit too much. I think we are all wired to denote differences and make generalizations.
The generalizations manifest themselves here all the time. Many of us would say Latinas are the most beautiful women in the world. I have friends who don't care for Asian girls or Black girls. They go to Brazil and look for the fairest, blondest girls they can find.
How we treat people is what is important. But we do know from study after study, attractive people have advantages afforded them.
SocratesNY
09-16-22, 14:45
Another fantastic SP trip under my belt (10th within the past 18 months), and I keep experiencing, seeing, hearing, learning new and amazing things!
I think my SP hobbying trips have finally plateaued. Prior to this trip, every one of my previous trips was overall an improvement over the previous one. It's not necessarily a bad thing, as I still had an amazing time and this most recent trip still ranks as top 3 to 5 among all my SP trips.
Here are some of the new experiences / insights that I gleamed from this trip. I'll start with the bad and move on to the good or mundane.
Rotten Apple in Terra daa Garoa" / Land of Drizzle:
I've had a handful of meh / average experiences in Brazil and all of them were from either a Moema clinicas, a more local boate like Bamboa, online girl or a RJ tier 1 terma. Therefore, it was truly surprising to me that my FIRST truly bad experience I had with a girl in Brazil, where I just ended the session and told her to leave, was from Scandallo.
I'll preface that I take a lot of the blame for my bad experience, as I broke a lot of my personal rules when doing my due diligence with this girl and ignored so many warning signs, and made countless excuses for her.
I was chilling at around 2:30 am Friday with some ISG bros at Scandallo and was about to call it a night and maybe do a last call type of deal. I had only slept about 4 hours the previous 48 hours so was dead tired. I saw this pretty petite branca morena dancing with this tall model like girl I've had before. She had good dance moves and piqued my curiosity. I figured since she was dancing with and seemed to be a friend with a girl I had a good time with in the past, who was very cool and chill, that she would also be a cool and chill girl. Wrong! Assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups!
I broke my first rule by not spending a decent amount of time talking to her to get a read on her. I've played a lot of poker and think I can read people pretty well. Instead, I cut right to the chase with her and talked business after a brief introduction. I told her I wanted a 3 HR session and what I wanted during the sessio. My requests are nothing freaky. All standard stuff GFE stuff that I didn't previously need to ask (BBBJ, DFK, lots of foreplay, erotic massage play, etc.). But a previous encounter had forced me to be more transparent, especially with higher cost girls I take out. When she agreed, we moved onto pricing and soon agreed to that as well.
Once we went downstairs and went to the cashier, the first red flag occurred. When I went to pay my card, she just handed her card to the cashier and motioned that I was going to take care of it. She never asked me first and I never said I would. She just presumed and took me for granted or for a sucker. Just no respect.
I've paid the card / bill of most of the girls I've taken out, but they always ask me first and inform me it it was just their consumption, which was always minor. There was one exception, when a girl from my last trip, which stuck me with a R600 bill that I didn't realize until the next day, as I was never shown their receipt. She claimed she didn't know it was that high or that her admission on it and offered to reimburse me. I told that girl that there was no need, and that I believe her. But she persisted and insisted that I take her up to the room for a free romp. So I did amd It ended up one being one of the better 1 HR sessions I had. So I now make sure I see the full itemized bill of the girl before I pay it.
Now back to this girl. Her working name is Marina. I have no issues name shaming girls with shitty attitudes and crappy service. I am sure she put me on blast to her friends after! When I saw the R400+ for cover and consumption, I balked at paying it. When I saw her facial expression turn negative and the mood about to sour. It was like a big five alarm going off with large red sirens in my head! I was about to say fuck it and bail, but a combination of events made me change my mind. 1) she quickly hid her emotions and tried to smooth things over by saying I can consider it a tip and if I don't have a good time, I can deduct it from our agreed compensation 2) I had already paid her Saida fee so not sure if I can change my mind (I learn now to pay the bill before Saida fee) 3) I had already settled my bill so not sure if I can open a new one and go back in the club (upon reflection, I am sure I can) 4) I am an optimist at heart and gave her the benefit of the doubt 5) I wanted to see her dance the stripper pole at Lush Hotel.
Off we went to Lush. She was detached on the ride over. Claimed she was tired. Probably true. But not a good start. Lush sold out the room with stripper pole while we were heading over. So the hits keep on coming! Once we get to the room, she tried me to get a buy her a vibrator and dinner without asking. How did she do that you ask? By just taking a new vibrator from the shelf and putting it on the bed. Insinuating she will use it during our session. And of course taking it home after. I took a look and it was R400 for the vibrator. She just opening the menu and says she is hungry. And whether I was too. As if she was paying! This was the last opportunity I had to cut my losses and kick her out without paying her compensation. And I should have listened to my gut and done so and booted her out with just taxi fare and went back to Scandallo for last call.
As for service, Marina tried to skimp on time and service and just tried to get me off ASAP and leave. A wham bam thank you ma'am session was the last thing I wanted. I didn't book 3 hrs for that! I tried to slow her down and give her guidance, but she always quickly reverted back to the pace she was setting and the shitty service she was giving.
I finally had enough of the BS, I told her she obviously didn't want to be here and she can leave. She tried to debate with me that it's not true and she was providing the service we agreed to. I told her she don't need to worry about me not paying her (that would lead to drama I don't want), but she wasn't going to get everything we agreed on. I deducted her bill / tip and Saida fee from our agreed upon compensation for her time and she simply gave me a thumbs up in agreement and left.
So my ONE and ONLY time in Brazil that I kicked a girl out of my bed was a rotten apple from Scandallo! Still a good batting average as that is probably out of 150+ Brazilian women I've had in Sampa and Rio and 70+ of them from Scandallo!
ISG Bros:
I had a great time hanging with a bunch of ISG bros, two of whom I met up with on multiple trips previously in SP. I actually arranged the dates of this trip to hang with them. Our group of 3 eventually grew to as much as 7, when we did an ISG Bros takeover of DOM restaurante! It was amazing hanging with so many like minded guys. I won't name names to keep things discreet, but you guys know who you are. It was a pleasure hanging out with each and every one of you. I hope to hang with you guys again in the future.
High end clinicas:
I am very surprised I've not sampled any high end clinica until now. I wanted to try them out during my first few trips, but had such an amazing time with regular clinicas that I didn't think it would be worth it, especially when I had to use an iPad for presentation and the prices almost reached Scandallo levels. I finally did at the urging and recommendations of a few ISG bros. I went to Lotus Lounge with an ISG bro as wingman and had a good time. I would definitely repeat. Cost:. 350 to house, 330 to girl, total R680.
Do I think it's worth 2 to 2. 5 x the cost of a Moema clinica? Yes, if you like what I like. The room, ambiance, showers, amenities are 3-4 x better than Moema clinicas. Basically comparable to s high end spa / 4 star hotel. The girls are also on average better looking and more of them speak English when compared to a regular clinica girl. All of those traits I prioritize and place value on. They also offer happy hour and loyalty discounts!
Lotus Club:
I had hope to give this boate another chance, as the last time I went, the place was dead. But really nicely furnished. However, before I went there after dinner, a couple of friends were there already and said now the club is now full of mostly ugly and old civilians, with a sprinkling of hotties. There were also some stickers for swingers like (yes / no, available,/ not available, etc.) on some of their clothes. I guess the club pivoted to a civilian, semi swing club after not succeeding as an alternative to Cafe Photo / Scandallo.
Cafe Photo:
Went there with some ISG bros and we left after 30 min and headed to Scandallo. It was a bad omen when I saw two good looking girls leaving when we arrived. They probably went to Scandallo or a working girl party pickup spot like Bagatelle. After the previous 2 nights at Scandallo, it was like going from the Yankees to single A ball. For non baseball fans. It's like going from listening to Adele to listening to your kid's elementary school recital. The admission is now all consumption R350. They did tack on a 15% tip gratuity without saying anything. When I asked why it was higher then 350, they said it was a 15% service charge for the waiters and it was voluntary and they would remove it if we wanted. We said keep it, but still found it shady and forced. I've told myself before, so I hope to keep telling myself, but I am done with this place.
I did found the service to be a tad above Scandallo. But with the client to waiter ratio almost 1:2. It does feel a bit awkward. Like you have too many watchful servants. The way they brought over glasses with lime or berries in ice for our bottle of gin was nicely done.
Casarao:
I finally crossed it off my bucket list. And I will return. Shocked I never went there before this trip as I stay in the area so often (Renaissance, Tivoli, intercontinental, Fasano, Rosewood, etc.). I think the reasons were 1) thought it was more for locals and my lack of Porto would be a huge impediment 2) I presumed it was an inferior Bomboa. 3). The last time I wanted to go, . My friends said. They just went a few days ago and it was meh!
So after finishing a dinner date and catching the end of the Bucs game, I got bored and couldn't sleep. I hit up a wingman to go check it out on a Sunday at midnight. It was one of few clubs open, and as I just finished with a girl, I figure I would just go to look.
It's definitely self service, when Scandallo is full service! No glasses with ice. Nicely wrapped with a napkin here with your coke or red bull. There is a big garbage can for you to throw out your own garbage! A bit of a dive bar vibe, but better layout than Bomboa. It was decent on Sunday. More hopping than Cafe Photo on a Saturday! Was told it can be packed during the weekdays. Saw a girl from Scandallo there that I had thought about taking when she was at Scandallo a couple of nights ago. Quickly negotiated a takeout back to my hotel. Had such a good time, I extended our time twice, and at a fraction of Scandallo prices! My wingman scored a good deal on a pernoite as well and his girl fucked his brains out not once. Not twice, but 3 times before she left him famished when we met up for lunch! She might have tried to kill him and went in for #4 if not for his lunch date with me and a friend!
Scandallo:
Still the king of boates. Not even a close contest. No challenger is even close to dethroning them.
Beats every night end and low end boates in every area except price and maybe location. Quality of girls (check) Quantity of girls (check). Ambiance (check) Luxury (check) Food (check) Drinks (check) Smokes (check) Safety (check).
Excluding the rotten apple Marina, I took 5/6 other Scandallo girls out to Lush or to my hotel. I had a great to amazing time with each of them. If I could combine the best qualities of each of those 5/6 girls, I would have my dream girl! As it stands, each of them are incredible in their own ways and worthy of a repeat.
Lush Hotel:
I previously had not used any love motels in Brazil not because I didn't want to, but mostly because I always had an amazing suite at a 5 star hotel. The few times that I still wanted to check Lush out with my main Scandallo girl, she said it's not worth it and said that my room is nicer.
After using Lush 3 x and trying 3 separate room tyoes this trip, I would agree and disagree with her. The lower to medium end rooms are basically similar to a regular room at your hotel. I tried the "Lush Hidro" with the Jacuzzi and it's not really a big room. The "Lush Lounge" with the outdoor area and stripper pole was larger and pretty nice. Good value as well and I would recommend, especially with a girl that can dance.
I really wanted to try out the "Lush Cine" room with the 4 DX movie chairs. I was told it is hard to get as they only have 2 of those rooms so is usually booked out. I will need to book in advance my next trip to check it out.
On my final day / evening before my late flight, I splurged on the "Lush Splash Spa", with a swimming pool with inflatables, Jacuzzi, outdoor tanning area, sauna room, double showers, etc! It was fucking amazing! Better than the Presidential suite at the Grand Hyatt, but still below the Presidential suite at the Renaissance!
As my flight back to the US is always late at night, I found using Lush before my flight to be amazingly convenient for a last hurrah. 1). I don't need to go back to hotel to get luggage on way to GRU 2) it's closer to GRU than most areas where my hotel is so I can fuck later before I go straight to the airport! I hear some guys even take their luggage to Scandallo before a flight. Not sure if I would be comfortable with that, but Lush is a good alternative.
Inflation:
I went with 6 different Scandallo girls and their asking prices were higher than previous. R2,000 to R4000 for takeout. Most didn't distinguish 2-3 hrs vs. Pernoite until the morning. They just charged the same for Saida. I rarely do 1 HR so only asked that of a few, but R1,000 to R1,500 was the asking price. As I was not interested in 1 HR, I didn't negotiate further, but I presume most would settle st 6-800.
There was one girl who wanted R4,500 so I told her we were too far apart that it wasn't worth negotiating. For the others, I was still able to get pernoite takeout for 1300 to 1500, but harder to get 1000.
For clinica girls, I was able to get 700 to 1000 pernoite and friends who did seeking, and online girls, etc. Were also able to get prices much lower than Scandallo.
Ecigs:
While technically illegal in Brazil, can be bought at most tobacco shops. Just ask. And they will show you. In my case, it was hidden behind a hidden sliding door / wall! Or you can buy it at Scandallo at s premium!
Mani:
Finally checked it out and Mani has overtaken the. O. M. As my favorite restaurant in Sao Paulo. Highly recommended! Support Chef Helena Rizzo's charity. Very good cause.
TLDR:. Sampa is amazing. Brazilian women are incredible! If you are on the fence about visiting. Hop off it and go!
SocratesNY
09-16-22, 15:02
There are Brazilian Asians and gringo Asians, the gringos the girls flock to because they know the guys are there to fuck and spend money whereas Brazilian Asians many are there just to collect numbers for later because they know outside they can multiple hours for the same price as going up to the rooms.
BTW the girls have their own Whatsapp group chat where they talk about clients and sell stuff so they have a forum just like us.To the first point, I observed it to be mostly true. When they do take a girl, to the room, usually only a few in the group does, and the rest just wait for him to return before leaving as a group.
I've seen their WhatsApp group. The big general one is usually too big for most girls to follow, especially when they can't keep their phone with them. My old Scandallo regular barely look at it or participate in the big group. But each girl have their own little clique and they have their own mini groups that they follow. Like one for a few Scandallo friends. One for high end working girl party circuit friends, etc.
...That was their argument, not mine...I treat what you heard equally to what others or I saw. It's the subsequent argument you made that you seemed to try to make the argument for them. I said that is problematic.
Another fantastic SP trip under my belt (10th within the past 18 months), and I keep experiencing, seeing, hearing, learning new and amazing things!...Thanks for the great report.
Is it much better experience to get wine pairing with a group of friends at DOM? That is something I always wonder. I personally find it is very boring to have tasting menu alone.
Mani is good. I discovered it by accident the way I liked it by walking around. I went to the breakfast place with similar name a few doors down that was always packed. The wait was so long that I wondered around while waiting for a seat. Mani told me they had seat so I went back to the breakfast place to tell them I was going to Mani if I have to wait longer. Anyway, I went back to Mani another night planning to take a clinica girl with me but she turned her whatsapp off when she was not working. The time I was there, the wine pairing was by bottle so it is better to go with a friend. The food and ambience are excellent.
Casarao can have more girls than Scandallo depending on the night. It can get packed very late. I did not like the difficulty negotiating service with the girls. It is not as easy as Scandallo for me.
SocratesNY
09-16-22, 17:27
Thanks for the great report.
Is it much better experience to get wine pairing with a group of friends at DOM? That is something I always wonder. I personally find it is very boring to have tasting menu alone.We didn't do the wine pairing. I also rarely do it when alone, as I am not a big drinker. When I do get it, I usually share it with my date / my significant other. Some guys stuck to non alcoholic, most tried their cocktails and maybe a glass of wine with their main course.
Mani is good. I discovered it by accident the way I liked it by walking around. I went to the breakfast place with similar name a few doors down that was always packed. The wait was so long that I wondered around while waiting for a seat. Mani told me they had seat so I went back to the breakfast place to tell them I was going to Mani if I have to wait longer. Anyway, I went back to Mani another night planning to take a clinica girl with me but she turned her whatsapp off when she was not working. The time I was there, the wine pairing was by bottle so it is better to go with a friend. The food and ambience are excellent.The main Mani restaurant is usually booked out, especially on weekends for dinner, so you were lucky to get a walkup table. I guess mid-week lunch is more open though Their bakery / breakfast place "Padoca of Man" is very popular and a great choice for brunch.
We were stuffed at the end of our tasting menu. I might go a la carte when I return.
Casarao can have more girls than Scandallo depending on the night. It can get packed very late. I did not like the difficulty negotiating service with the girls. It is not as easy as Scandallo for me.Uh. More girls than Scandallo? Casarao is like like 1/5th to 1/8th the size of Scandallo. And that's AFTER NOT INCLUDING the RESTAURANT in Scandallo.
People must be squished together like canned sardines! In that environment, it must be impossible to talk. I guess you can take the girls downstairs to the smoking area to chat, but I would imagine that area would be packed on those nights too.
I am not sure if that's what you mean by "the difficulty negotiating service with the girls", e. G. , it's too crowded and loud to talk, where in Scandallo, you can do it in a more relaxing and quieter environment if you so choose by going to the outdoor patio, restaurant, etc.
If you mean something different, like the culture or vibe of the club or the girls are just different, then please elaborate.
It is not worth it to use Photoaccomp in SP or even Rio. You got better website option including Twitter if you are in SP. Website is just too time consuming to use. I would just stick with Clinicas and boates in SP and Prives / Termas in Rio.I concur that most mongers here should stick to the local sex venues you mentioned.
Some of us have had success with finding great girls from the internet, but it requires patience and some ingenuity to navigate the Brazilian escort scene. Many guys who immediately gravitate to website photos for some reason think it's point at a hot photo and click. There's too much risk of a bad experience with that approach.
Mani:
Finally checked it out and Mani has overtaken D. O. M. As my favorite restaurant in Sao Paulo. Highly recommended! Support Chef Helena Rizzo's charity. Very good cause.
TLDR:. Sampa is amazing. Brazilian women are incredible! If you are on the fence about visiting. Hop off it and go!Just curious, does the. O. M. Still offer two tasting menus?
I found the larger tasting menu was too much for me. I noticed most the locals were ordering the smaller tasting menu and it seemed to be plenty of food.
How we treat people is what is important. But we do know from study after study, attractive people have advantages afforded them.I have an extremely attractive work colleague. She's very pretty, and she knows it. She's done all kinds of interesting things in her life and had opportunities to do this, that, and the other. One day she admitted to me that she knew she'd had opportunities to get ahead because of her looks. I told her she is the only person who has ever admitted anything like that to me about themselves, even though we all know it's true. That said, I will add that she actually is very intelligent and hardworking. But, having her looks never hurt either! To the point that I think maybe she even had some chances to do things she did not necessarily deserve.
I am not a drinker either but I do enjoy light drinking with meal.
...so you were lucky to get a walkup table. ....I almost never go to places that require me to book too far ahead simply because I never book in advance that way. I sent Mani message around 5 PM, and there was one table available at 8 PM that I took. If I had to book in the morning to get a table, then I probably won't go unless it is with a friend. I post image here just for my own memory.
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Uh. More girls than Scandallo? Casarao is like like 1/5th to 1/8th the size of Scandallo. And that's AFTER NOT INCLUDING the RESTAURANT in Scandallo.,,The most I have gone was 3 nights in one week. I counted the number of girls almost every time because I have nothing better to do. On one Tuesday there were at least 150 girls conservatively speaking. That is the most I have observed. Around 10 PM the restaurant was full because I could not find a table to have dinner, and there was a line waiting for the room upstairs when I went with a girl. The girl quality was very hight that I had several candidates. I guess this is the type of nights many were talking about before Pandemic. This is the night that changed my view.
I don't think there were more than 100 girls in several slow nights that I went. The slowest night was a cold Wednesday that outdoor area were closed. Most regulars I recognize were not in the club. The club area was half empty when I saw it from upstairs. Casarao were frequently packed during weeknights so it could have more girls relatively speaking. Also it started very late. I reported a live sex show started around 4 AM.
...I am not sure if that's what you mean by "the difficulty negotiating service with the girls", ...It takes more work or negotiation to get BBBJ, for example, or kissing. I don't remember a time I was refused either at Scandallo, and usually the girl just start making out with me in the club. I took a girl who agreed to kissing but won't do it in the club. She did not do it in the room either. I am 100% at Scandallo percentagewise.
First of all, SocratesNY — great report. It sucks that we missed each other by a few days and maybe next time we can plan a get together.
Arrived at Scandello approx at 915 pm and walked around for a bit. It was slow and there weren't a lot of girls. So I picked a spot at the lobby bar and ordered a beer. I was going to take it slow tonight because I wanted to find a gem that checks off my list. I haven't been to Scandello since February and I wanted to find someone who would be enjoyable to spend time with.
I talked to approx 10 girls in the first two hours but none suited my fancy. The first few conversations lasted less than 5 mins due to the fact that the girl just couldn't get keep the conversation going. It was very forced. I would walk around every once in a while and saw some that were very pretty and some that I didn't know why they were there. There is really something for everyone here. By the end of the night, there must have been over 300 girls here in all flavors.
As the dance floor area started to get crowded, I went for a walk thru and immediately saw one that caught my attention and gave her a smile. But I kept walking since the crowd and noise wasn't my cup of tea. So went back to the bar to sit down. And within 5-10 mins comes the girl who caught my attention and she orders a coffee. We started talking about the coffee and how she like to drink it and the conversation just flowed from there. She asked me to join her for a smoke out in the main patio and we went and sat down. It all started from there. We had good connection and the conversation flowed freely without long pauses.
Long story short. We stayed for another three hours chatting, drinking and ordered some appetizers. She loosened up a lot and more open to kissing and letting me get my hands under her dress below the jacket she was wearing. She ask what I wanted and I explained my wants (nothing freaky) and issues I have had previously. She gave me her price and it a bit higher that what I wanted to pay but she made a deal. If she performs up to my needs, pay that price. If she doesn't, then I need to tell her and she will leave with a much smaller payment. I said "what the hell" . We clicked well together so what do I have to lose. Her one non-negotiable was condoms for everything except oral which I was disappointed with but agreed.
She asked me to pay her consumables and I agreed. It was only 110 R so no big deal and she was ready after I paid the house fee of 300 R and my tab. Got into the taxi and she was sitting next to me and we were kissing the whole way to the hotel. In the room, after showering, both of us wanted each other and I made her orgasm a few times with DATY. She started her BBBJ and then crawled on top and went BBFS. She just told me pull out in time and I told her I was snipped so no worries. She still didn't want me to finish inside so I respected that. After we were done, I showed her my recent tests and my vasectomy proof. That put her at super ease and she still insisted on pulling out with which I will respect. Took a slight break and talked more with her all cuddling up and we started kissing again which got me ready for the next round and all she did was turn around and guided me in. Wet as fuck and again pulled out. She then turned around and told me that she loves sex and everything about sex so if I am hard at anytime this weekend, she will make sure to satisfy me. I was like. JACKPOT!! Her features were perfectly up my alley. She has a lot tattoos but I have a few so not a dealbreaker. Perfect size tits to hold in my hand, 24 hrs old, small button nipples, tight wet pussy and a perfect tight ass. No kids so no baby damage and no stretch marks on her body. A perfect 8 and her attitude makes her a 10 in my book.
Looking forward to the rest of the weekend and the sex to come. As SocratesNY said below, Scandello is the the king of all boates. I almost always find what I am looking for here and I have usually not been disappointed since I can be patient and take my time to choose the right one.
Next report will be about the weekend spent and the food that I ended up trying out this trip.
Hi ISGers, I feel obliged to contribute after reading so many of your valuable reports. Thank you to everyone who contributed, it has helped me tremendously in my first trip to SP!
So first a bit about myself. I am an Asian-Canadian, 30's, who doesn't speak anything beyond the most basic Porto (I can understand a tiny bit). Funny how the recent forum posts were discussing people's views towards Asians. My guess is Asians tend to hang out in groups and have a certain vibe about them that is very hit-or-miss. I actually don't like hanging out with fellow Asians, because socially Asians tend to just stick together and not be very open about chatting up other people. Maybe the language barrier is also an issue. I speak perfect English, so I get by.
Okay so get down to brass tacks. My sessions:
1) Giulia Monteiro from PhotoAcompanhante (PA): Loved what I saw on the profile, but aware of fake potential. Did the best to verify her identity, she even sent a disappearing WhatsApp selfie, so I had my hopes up. Went to her immediately on Tuesday morning after delayed arrival at GRU. Works out of small prive. But girl who showed up wasn't the same girl, not even the same name. They tried to offer me another girl closer to what I am looking for, but no, I don't support bait-and-switch, so I left. No money paid, just time, but since it's close to Liberdade, I walked back to places I want to see anyway. No major harm done.
2) Cleo from PA: short little cutie who works out of another prive near Santa Cruz metro. Matches photos, maybe a bit less fit than photo suggests, but still in decent shape. Very friendly attitude despite my lack of Porto. BBBJ, GFE. Great service. Had me cum once, and since I was on Viagra, I stayed hard and we sessioned again. Tried to get me to cum a second time, and as I don't cum easily to begin with, we weren't successful, but that's not her fault. In fact, she went 15 min over the hour but I was only charged the hourly rate that I paid for at the beginning, which I couldn't believe was a very cheap R170! 9/10.
3) Jasmine from Twitter (at jas_saintpierre): Fuck where do I begin? Communicated well on WhatsApp, had my hopes up since she's new on Twitter and seems to have just returned from abroad. Had a 'luxury' air about her, and since she spoke English, I thought, sure, why not? First red-flag was that she had to delay our scheduled appointment by an hour and a half. Okay, bad traffic, blah blah blah, I can deal with it. She works out of a hotel in Jardins area. It was tough getting to the area with the rainy weather, but I was there at the lobby a few minutes after the appointed time. Slow documents check, calling her down. By the time I got up with her to her room we were 20 minutes past out appointment 'start time'. She was friendly, so the conversation never went to 'hey, when does the hour actually start and end'. But she insisted R600 to start, which I tried to do the half upfront, half at the end compromise, but she wouldn't budge. Second red-flag, and how I regretted. By the time we actually started to roll in the sheets it was 7 pm. Face is decent, her body is a bit fatter than the photos on Twitter, not disgusting bad, but certainly not what I would choose in a lineup. Fake breasts, whatever. Decent enough fuck, until the phone ran at 7:30 pm (from her pimp I would later figure out), then it's like all hell broke lose. She just up and stopped, told me the hour was up, I was like wtf? She kept insisting that the appointment time started at 6:30 pm, and that I was late. I was like. Yea, but you were the who rescheduled me, and had me move my plans around. She was removing the bed sheets and refused to continue. So no warning, not even a 'hey I need to make you cum because we are almost done'. Then I assume she proceeded to call her pimp because 10 min later as I finished getting changed to leave, loud bangs at the door, and rough angry looking guy showed up. At first I thought it was another client that she seemed to suggest she had, but later as I was going through my phone in the lobby, I saw the same character bring in another girl. So no, that's her pimp. Don't know if it's Jasmine or her pimp or both that decided that's how business should be done, but fuck them both. R600 for 30 min and didn't even finish?! Avoid like the plague, don't support traffickers. 0/10.
Thank goodness a nice Italian dinner nearby made up for an otherwise terrible evening.
4) Casarao. Marina: Went there after dinner. Met an interesting character there. A local Asian man named David in his 60's was friendly, spoke good English, and took me under his wings. He explains that he's been doing this for decades and he's quite a legend for making girls cum (LOL? He chose to sit right by the door so he can immediately scan all the arrivals, and I hung out with him there for a bit. But then tons of girls come to greet him like he's some kind of godfather, he was passing me tips about girls that he know (including who to avoid) and he knows the bouncers and other regulars, so I actually think he's legit. He even had some English-speaking girls come greet me, very kind of him. Place was packed at around midnight, easily 100+girls with all the comings-and-goings. But here's the thing, I like to hunt solo, and I had my eye on a girl who at first glance looked like all kinds of wrong. She's not your typical 'hottie' - wears glasses, reminds me a bit of Anna Kendrick (who I do like). She was on her phone the moment she came in and went to the downstairs bar. When I saw her again upstairs, she's still on her phone. I was like, whatever, let's introduce myself and see what will happen. Well guess what, Marina turned out to be extremely friendly even though she doesn't speak English. I managed to get her to laugh quite a bit, and she even grinded up on me for a good while as we enjoyed the music. She tried to get me to pay her R1000, I negotiated down to R400 for the hour, which she accepted quickly. A petite little spinner, not much for breasts, but great energy in bed, BBFS, GFE, etc. We made it work despite the language barrier and had a great time. 8. 5/10.
5) Mika Nikkei (found on MClass): After an unsuccessful after tour of the Moema clinicas (nothing to my liking, I have a type), I schedule with her, trusting the website's reputation. First red-flag was her attitude on WhatsApp, I thought it was not friendly at all. R100 to schedule, second red-flag. Girl is the same as photos, but she was late because of traffic, and then had problems getting her hotel room authorized. We waited around like idiots for 30 minutes in the lobby. Third red-flag. Go upstairs, her body is not as nice as her photos (stretch marks), and she gave a half-hearted service, which is totally different from what we discussed on WhatsApp. Bad-smelling pussy. This idiot is still heading into the fucking trap. I asked for the anal she promised, she got pissed, grumbling and did it for 30's, then claimed I am hurting her (I was neither rough nor am I gifted). Okay whatever, finished around the 35 min mark with a CIM (again promised), she fucking bolted to the bathroom swearing. Like you kept your mouth open * what did you expect?! Then she came back and said we are done, I was like, wait, your service promised an hour. ? She kept swearing, refusing to even use Google translate to get her point across. I was done too, I don't need to put up with this attitude. I did say that given your lateness and the short service, I am cutting the R400 remainder payment by half (do you guys think that's fair? I do). Then she claimed that no, this is what it is, she would call police otherwise. I actually wanted to dare her to do it, or just up and run, but realizes that R200 is not worth the added drama, so was like fuck it, lesson learned. Also made me miss the early entry discount for Scandallo, so in a sense lost another R200 because of her. 0/10.
6) Isa Nakamura (at isanakamuragp3): found on Twitter, I scheduled with her, with the plan to meet her at my hotel after checking in at Scandallo. Well given what happened (see #5), I didn't bother going to Scandallo yet, and I was contemplating cancelling with Isa since I was in a bad mood. Glad I didn't. She is an educated young woman, speaks good English, who actually looked very much the part of a university student, and I like her mestizo features. 8/10 for body. She was shy to begin with, but warmed up as we had a nice conversation about travels and studies. Enhanced tits, body that is not as toned as I hoped, but easily 7. 5/10 still. Good session with BBFS and GFE. 8/10.
6) Scandallo. Nathalia: Wow, the hype is real. Wednesday night at 11 pm is a zoo. Bodies everywhere, booze flowing freely, it took me a good 45 min just to get my bearings. As I finally settled into the upstairs bar, I caught the eye of a young spinner named Bianca. Like her work name, she was dressed in all-white, almost cosplay-like outfit, complete with a white ribbon in her hair, face all dolled up. Couldn't stop applying more of her bright red lipstick while chatting with me. My guess is she's playing up that anime kawaii trope, and thought I would be a sucker for it. Truth be told, I was interested, but more because of her body type. She then had this really odd 'shy schoolgirl' attitude about her as I asked her about herself. She also kept glancing back to this other Asian dude that she was chatting with earlier. Honestly I think it's all an act, and I hated it. Did get a price though. She opened with 1000, I got her down to 400, which she accepted. She promised the world, including anal. I know this is apparently a great deal at Scandallo these days, but LOL, nope. She probably thinks I am a 10-min guy with her thing for Asians (I can easily go a full hour), and given the strange vibes about her, I told her I would get back to her after I finish my drink. She proceeded to go to the other Asian dude she was eyeing. I think they were chatting for like 2+hours (or what constituted for chatting in her books anyway, all she gave me were one word answers) because I saw them together still after I finished my time with Nathalia (below). If he sessioned with her, good for him. I hope it was good, but I doubt it LOL.
Downstairs in the main room, there were hotties everywhere, but they looked too 'pro' for my liking. As I was circling for another look in the restaurants and smokers' corner, I caught the eye of a glasses-wearing cutie named Nathalia at the back. I don't usually have a thing for girls with glasses, but both nights at different clubs it happened *shrugs*. She speaks some English, there's just a very friendly vibe about her, she claimed it's only her second time there at Scandallo, which might not be true, but she didn't seem to be a full pro. Claims to be from the northeast of Brazil. She was very helpful with getting me to navigate the Scandallo bureaucracy. She opened with 1000 for the hour, I returned 400, agreed on 500 with anal included. Woah. Not bad for a first time negotiator after all the previous reports I read, right? Anyway, upstairs the session was excellent. 8. 5/10 for body, 9/10 for face. Everything was done as promised, very GFE, we even did it a bit in the shower. Went over time by 15 min, and she honestly seemed to feel bad for me because of the added hotel fees, but I honestly don't care, since it was a tremendous session. She even left me a business card (who does that?! Haha). 9. 5/10.
7) Giovanna Berlot (MClass, Twitter): You can find other reviews about her on gp-guia. She's seriously good. R500 for 1 h, which is R100 more than a few weeks ago when I first ask for a quote, but honestly, so worth it. Doesn't speak English, but doesn't matter. Her body type is a 10/10 for me, petite and toned, and she now has new blonde hair which makes her look even hotter. Very good energy in bed also, just no anal. 9. 5/10.
7 sessions in about 48 hours. 2/7 struck out. Learned some lessons, had a great time. Not bad for a first trip to Brazil; I am now heading to Rio after a weekend with non-mongering friends.
I am not a full member yet, but if there's good feedback on these reports, I might consider it given the nice community here. Obrigado for reading. Tchau!
Axel Heyst
09-17-22, 13:15
First of all, SocratesNY great report. It sucks that we missed each other by a few days and maybe next time we can plan a get together.
Arrived at Scandello approx at 915 pm and walked around for a bit. It was slow and there weren't a lot of girls. So I picked a spot at the lobby bar and ordered a beer. I was going to take it slow tonight because I wanted to find a gem that checks off my list. I haven't been to Scandello since February and I wanted to find someone who would be enjoyable to spend time with.
I talked to approx 10 girls in the first two hours but none suited my fancy. The first few conversations lasted less than 5 mins due to the fact that the girl just couldn't get keep the conversation going. It was very forced. I would walk around every once in a while and saw some that were very pretty and some that I didn't know why they were there. There is really something for everyone here. By the end of the night, there must have been over 300 girls here in all flavors.
As the dance floor area started to get crowded, I went for a walk thru and immediately saw one that caught my attention and gave her a smile. But I kept walking since the crowd and noise wasn't my cup of tea. So went back to the bar to sit down. And within 5-10 mins comes the girl who caught my attention and she orders a coffee. We started talking about the coffee and how she like to drink it and the conversation just flowed from there. She asked me to join her for a smoke out in the main patio and we went and sat down. It all started from there. We had good connection and the conversation flowed freely without long pauses.
Long story short. We stayed for another three hours chatting, drinking and ordered some appetizers. She loosened up a lot and more open to kissing and letting me get my hands under her dress below the jacket she was wearing. She ask what I wanted and I explained my wants (nothing freaky) and issues I have had previously. She gave me her price and it a bit higher that what I wanted to pay but she made a deal. If she performs up to my needs, pay that price. If she doesn't, then I need to tell her and she will leave with a much smaller payment. I said "what the hell" . We clicked well together so what do I have to lose. Her one non-negotiable was condoms for everything except oral which I was disappointed with but agreed.
She asked me to pay her consumables and I agreed. It was only 110 R so no big deal and she was ready after I paid the house fee of 300 R and my tab. Got into the taxi and she was sitting next to me and we were kissing the whole way to the hotel. In the room, after showering, both of us wanted each other and I made her orgasm a few times with DATY. She started her BBBJ and then crawled on top and went BBFS. She just told me pull out in time and I told her I was snipped so no worries. She still didn't want me to finish inside so I respected that. After we were done, I showed her my recent tests and my vasectomy proof. That put her at super ease and she still insisted on pulling out with which I will respect. Took a slight break and talked more with her all cuddling up and we started kissing again which got me ready for the next round and all she did was turn around and guided me in. Wet as fuck and again pulled out. She then turned around and told me that she loves sex and everything about sex so if I am hard at anytime this weekend, she will make sure to satisfy me. I was like. JACKPOT!! Her features were perfectly up my alley. She has a lot tattoos but I have a few so not a dealbreaker. Perfect size tits to hold in my hand, 24 hrs old, small button nipples, tight wet pussy and a perfect tight ass. No kids so no baby damage and no stretch marks on her body. A perfect 8 and her attitude makes her a 10 in my book.
Looking forward to the rest of the weekend and the sex to come. As SocratesNY said below, Scandello is the the king of all boates. I almost always find what I am looking for here and I have usually not been disappointed since I can be patient and take my time to choose the right one.
Next report will be about the weekend spent and the food that I ended up trying out this trip.Great report Anaggie. That is how you do it. Choose wisely and take the time to connect. With a likewise similar strategy I have around a 98% batting average in Scandallo and Bomboa. The minor difference between your approach and mine is that I prefer to do 1st time sessions in-house and then afterwards if things went well and I want to see her again and she me, we will exchange WhatsApp #s and take things from there. After every trip to SP I wind up with more girl numbers than I know what to do with.
Axel Heyst
09-17-22, 13:40
Hi Socrates, I know how you feel about SP. I am heading back down there in less than 3 weeks, and I am starting to get stoked. It will be my 4th 6 week visit in less than 2 years. What can I say? I love the girls. I keep putting off my return to Thailand and the PI on account of SP girls. Ha Ha.
I am sorry to hear about your Marina experience, but sometimes guys like us need a poor session once in a blue moon to remind us not to take things too much for granted and to remember that nobody walk can on water. Like you said, you "broke a lot of (your) personal rules" that led to the final outcome. I have been there done that, but only on rare occasions. Thank the Lord above. KKK.
On high end clinicas: I am big fan of Prime, but I have also enjoyed Lotus Lounge. I feel that punters should consider all their options when in SP and the clinicas are a great afternoon diversion.
Lotus Club: your description matches my memory. I have only been there once. Friendly managemnt. The place looked 1st class and I am sure a lot of money went into the renovation, but where are the high-quality girls? Without plenty of lookers a place is nowhere. What a shame because I wanted to like Lotus Club. I wanted the place to be great.
Cafe Photo: I have not been there yet, and your review is not very encouraging. LOL. But since I am staying at the Hyatt for one of the weeks that I am in town, I will probably give it a look see anyway and if it is no good, I will head over to Bomboa or Scandallo.
Casarao: It is on my bucket list this trip for sure, although it was on my bucket list on my last visit too. I don't know; a lot of BM's like the place, so I got to go and see what everybody is talking about, but the hours don't work for me. When I am in SP I like to be on the scent from around 9 pm to midnight. That means I have already found a girl or girls by the time Casarao starts rocking. I don't like the idea of holding off until midnight to begin my night, so my plan will be to hit Scandallo 1st, score, and then after my 1st tryst of the evening, head over to Casarao and see what happens. I love 2 fer nights.
Scandallo: "Still the king of boates. Not even a close contest. " Yeah, you got that right! Scandallo is the main reason I am not even bothering with RJ this upcoming visit. It is a shame, but RJ has nothing to offer on the same level. To top it off I have a favorite Scandallo girl that I am just smitten with. We get together mainly at my hotel nowadays. Sunday is our date night.
Inflation 1: 5 star hotel prices are going through the roof. The Renaissance & Intercontinental are asking more than $250/ night and they are not even that good, IMHO, especially the Intercontinental which is in need of a renovation. But I am going to the well on this upcoming visit, using ALL my Marriot, Intercontinental points and vouchers. That takes care of the 1st 2 weeks. Then I move south to the much more reasonably priced Hyatt and to very reasonable & comfortable Brazilian hotels in Itaim Bibi.
Inflation 2: Scandallo girly prices: Last year all the girls were happy with 500 br to 600 br. In April / May 2022 I noticed a two-tier system had evolved in Scandallo. Tier 1 girls or model quality girls were asking anywhere from 1000 br to 2000 br and Tier 2 girls or pretty girl next door types were asking under 1000 br. And I found this simple formula usually settled the issue: take the girls asking price divide by 2 and add 200 br. Every girl accepted my counter using this formula. Examples: 2000 br Tier 1 always accepted 1200 br and a 900 br Tier 2 always accepted 650 to 700 br. I am talking ST. LT is different, but I never do LT until a girl and I have some history together. Interestingly this 2-tier system does not exist at Bomboa where all the girls seem happy with 700 br or a little less.
Anyway, keep rocking. Great report!
Another fantastic SP trip under my belt (10th within the past 18 months), and I keep experiencing, seeing, hearing, learning new and amazing things!
I think my SP hobbying trips have finally plateaued. Prior to this trip, every one of my previous trips was overall an improvement over the previous one. It's not necessarily a bad thing, as I still had an amazing time and this most recent trip still ranks as top 3 to 5 among all my SP trips.
Here are some of the new experiences / insights that I gleamed from this trip. I'll start with the bad and move on to the good or mundane.
Rotten Apple in Terra daa Garoa" / Land of Drizzle:
I've had a handful of meh / average experiences in Brazil and all of them were from either a Moema clinicas, a more local boate like Bamboa, online girl or a RJ tier 1 terma. Therefore, it was truly surprising to me that my FIRST truly bad experience I had with a girl in Brazil, where I just ended the session and told her to leave, was from Scandallo.
I'll preface that I take a lot of the blame for my bad experience, as I broke a lot of my personal rules when doing my due diligence with this girl and ignored so many warning signs, and made countless excuses for her.
I was chilling at around 2:30 am Friday with some ISG bros at Scandallo and was about to call it a night and maybe do a last call type of deal. I had only slept about 4 hours the previous 48 hours so was dead tired. I saw this pretty petite branca morena dancing with this tall model like girl I've had before. She had good dance moves and piqued my curiosity. I figured since she was dancing with and seemed to be a friend with a girl I had a good time with in the past, who was very cool and chill, that she would also be a cool and chill girl. Wrong! Assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups!
I broke my first rule by not spending a decent amount of time talking to her to get a read on her. I've played a lot of poker and think I can read people pretty well. Instead, I cut right to the chase with her and talked business after a brief introduction. I told her I wanted a 3 HR session and what I wanted during the sessio. My requests are nothing freaky. All standard stuff GFE stuff that I didn't previously need to ask (BBBJ, DFK, lots of foreplay, erotic massage play, etc.). But a previous encounter had forced me to be more transparent, especially with higher cost girls I take out. When she agreed, we moved onto pricing and soon agreed to that as well.
Once we went downstairs and went to the cashier, the first red flag occurred. When I went to pay my card, she just handed her card to the cashier and motioned that I was going to take care of it. She never asked me first and I never said I would. She just presumed and took me for granted or for a sucker. Just no respect.
I've paid the card / bill of most of the girls I've taken out, but they always ask me first and inform me it it was just their consumption, which was always minor. There was one exception, when a girl from my last trip, which stuck me with a R600 bill that I didn't realize until the next day, as I was never shown their receipt. She claimed she didn't know it was that high or that her admission on it and offered to reimburse me. I told that girl that there was no need, and that I believe her. But she persisted and insisted that I take her up to the room for a free romp. So I did amd It ended up one being one of the better 1 HR sessions I had. So I now make sure I see the full itemized bill of the girl before I pay it.
Now back to this girl. Her working name is Marina. I have no issues name shaming girls with shitty attitudes and crappy service. I am sure she put me on blast to her friends after! When I saw the R400+ for cover and consumption, I balked at paying it. When I saw her facial expression turn negative and the mood about to sour. It was like a big five alarm going off with large red sirens in my head! I was about to say fuck it and bail, but a combination of events made me change my mind. 1) she quickly hid her emotions and tried to smooth things over by saying I can consider it a tip and if I don't have a good time, I can deduct it from our agreed compensation 2) I had already paid her Saida fee so not sure if I can change my mind (I learn now to pay the bill before Saida fee) 3) I had already settled my bill so not sure if I can open a new one and go back in the club (upon reflection, I am sure I can) 4) I am an optimist at heart and gave her the benefit of the doubt 5) I wanted to see her dance the stripper pole at Lush Hotel.
Off we went to Lush. She was detached on the ride over. Claimed she was tired. Probably true. But not a good start. Lush sold out the room with stripper pole while we were heading over. So the hits keep on coming! Once we get to the room, she tried me to get a buy her a vibrator and dinner without asking. How did she do that you ask? By just taking a new vibrator from the shelf and putting it on the bed. Insinuating she will use it during our session. And of course taking it home after. I took a look and it was R400 for the vibrator. She just opening the menu and says she is hungry. And whether I was too. As if she was paying! This was the last opportunity I had to cut my losses and kick her out without paying her compensation. And I should have listened to my gut and done so and booted her out with just taxi fare and went back to Scandallo for last call.
As for service, Marina tried to skimp on time and service and just tried to get me off ASAP and leave. A wham bam thank you ma'am session was the last thing I wanted. I didn't book 3 hrs for that! I tried to slow her down and give her guidance, but she always quickly reverted back to the pace she was setting and the shitty service she was giving.
I finally had enough of the BS, I told her she obviously didn't want to be here and she can leave. She tried to debate with me that it's not true and she was providing the service we agreed to. I told her she don't need to worry about me not paying her (that would lead to drama I don't want), but she wasn't going to get everything we agreed on. I deducted her bill / tip and Saida fee from our agreed upon compensation for her time and she simply gave me a thumbs up in agreement and left.
So my ONE and ONLY time in Brazil that I kicked a girl out of my bed was a rotten apple from Scandallo! Still a good batting average as that is probably out of 150+ Brazilian women I've had in Sampa and Rio and 70+ of them from Scandallo!
ISG Bros:
I had a great time hanging with a bunch of ISG bros, two of whom I met up with on multiple trips previously in SP. I actually arranged the dates of this trip to hang with them. Our group of 3 eventually grew to as much as 7, when we did an ISG Bros takeover of DOM restaurante! It was amazing hanging with so many like minded guys. I won't name names to keep things discreet, but you guys know who you are. It was a pleasure hanging out with each and every one of you. I hope to hang with you guys again in the future.
High end clinicas:
I am very surprised I've not sampled any high end clinica until now. I wanted to try them out during my first few trips, but had such an amazing time with regular clinicas that I didn't think it would be worth it, especially when I had to use an iPad for presentation and the prices almost reached Scandallo levels. I finally did at the urging and recommendations of a few ISG bros. I went to Lotus Lounge with an ISG bro as wingman and had a good time. I would definitely repeat. Cost:. 350 to house, 330 to girl, total R680.
Do I think it's worth 2 to 2. 5 x the cost of a Moema clinica? Yes, if you like what I like. The room, ambiance, showers, amenities are 3-4 x better than Moema clinicas. Basically comparable to s high end spa / 4 star hotel. The girls are also on average better looking and more of them speak English when compared to a regular clinica girl. All of those traits I prioritize and place value on. They also offer happy hour and loyalty discounts!
Lotus Club:
I had hope to give this boate another chance, as the last time I went, the place was dead. But really nicely furnished. However, before I went there after dinner, a couple of friends were there already and said now the club is now full of mostly ugly and old civilians, with a sprinkling of hotties. There were also some stickers for swingers like (yes / no, available,/ not available, etc.) on some of their clothes. I guess the club pivoted to a civilian, semi swing club after not succeeding as an alternative to Cafe Photo / Scandallo.
Cafe Photo:
Went there with some ISG bros and we left after 30 min and headed to Scandallo. It was a bad omen when I saw two good looking girls leaving when we arrived. They probably went to Scandallo or a working girl party pickup spot like Bagatelle. After the previous 2 nights at Scandallo, it was like going from the Yankees to single A ball. For non baseball fans. It's like going from listening to Adele to listening to your kid's elementary school recital. The admission is now all consumption R350. They did tack on a 15% tip gratuity without saying anything. When I asked why it was higher then 350, they said it was a 15% service charge for the waiters and it was voluntary and they would remove it if we wanted. We said keep it, but still found it shady and forced. I've told myself before, so I hope to keep telling myself, but I am done with this place.
I did found the service to be a tad above Scandallo. But with the client to waiter ratio almost 1:2. It does feel a bit awkward. Like you have too many watchful servants. The way they brought over glasses with lime or berries in ice for our bottle of gin was nicely done.
Casarao:
I finally crossed it off my bucket list. And I will return. Shocked I never went there before this trip as I stay in the area so often (Renaissance, Tivoli, intercontinental, Fasano, Rosewood, etc.). I think the reasons were 1) thought it was more for locals and my lack of Porto would be a huge impediment 2) I presumed it was an inferior Bomboa. 3). The last time I wanted to go, . My friends said. They just went a few days ago and it was meh!
So after finishing a dinner date and catching the end of the Bucs game, I got bored and couldn't sleep. I hit up a wingman to go check it out on a Sunday at midnight. It was one of few clubs open, and as I just finished with a girl, I figure I would just go to look.
It's definitely self service, when Scandallo is full service! No glasses with ice. Nicely wrapped with a napkin here with your coke or red bull. There is a big garbage can for you to throw out your own garbage! A bit of a dive bar vibe, but better layout than Bomboa. It was decent on Sunday. More hopping than Cafe Photo on a Saturday! Was told it can be packed during the weekdays. Saw a girl from Scandallo there that I had thought about taking when she was at Scandallo a couple of nights ago. Quickly negotiated a takeout back to my hotel. Had such a good time, I extended our time twice, and at a fraction of Scandallo prices! My wingman scored a good deal on a pernoite as well and his girl fucked his brains out not once. Not twice, but 3 times before she left him famished when we met up for lunch! She might have tried to kill him and went in for #4 if not for his lunch date with me and a friend!
SocratesNY
09-17-22, 19:57
Just curious, does the. O. M. Still offer two tasting menus?
I found the larger tasting menu was too much for me. I noticed most the locals were ordering the smaller tasting menu and it seemed to be plenty of food.Unless it is an older menu / dining concept, DOM only have 1 regular tasting menu and 1 vegetarian tasting menu. It was never large and small (less courses) during my 5-6 visits in the previous 18 months.
Unless it is an older menu / dining concept, DOM only have 1 regular tasting menu and 1 vegetarian tasting menu. It was never large and small (less courses) during my 5-6 visits in the previous 18 months.The reviews indicated there were two different menus a few years ago so they changed.
I went for lunch hoping to get something quick and different. But was told lunch and dinner are the same and the vegetarian option. I walked in at 12 PM without appointment and was the only customer for a short while. By the time I finished, there were about 5 tables total. I think they will attract more people on lunch break if they have smaller menu but the seating does not seem to work for larger volume and may eat into their profit otherwise.
Hi ISGers, I feel obliged to contribute after reading so many of your valuable reports. Thank you to everyone who contributed, it has helped me tremendously in my first trip to SP!...Excellent report! It looks like you are well prepared.
Pay in advance is often bad. I had a bad one in SP from a well known site and I didn't even go to the sex part. I just wrote it off reported on gpguia.
I had several twitter sessions. I didn't go for the well known ones and none of them match the pictures but most sessions were good. In most my encounters, they all seem to be supported by a business operation because the setup were professional, frequently spacious one bedroom in the nicer area, towels and everything cleanly wrapped. I caught this picture with the girl I just sessioned with going out with a man while waiting for Uber.
You are a good negotiator. I am very impressed. 400 is a record! I have never thought about going below 500. lol. I think I know the girl you talked about. Spoke a little English. She is a regular there. I know someone got her down to pretty low but not as low as you reported if it's indeed the same girl.
SocratesNY
09-18-22, 07:59
Inflation 2: Scandallo girly prices: Last year all the girls were happy with 500 br to 600 br. In April / May 2022 I noticed a two-tier system had evolved in Scandallo. Tier 1 girls or model quality girls were asking anywhere from 1000 br to 2000 br and Tier 2 girls or pretty girl next door types were asking under 1000 br. And I found this simple formula usually settled the issue: take the girls asking price divide by 2 and add 200 br. Every girl accepted my counter using this formula. Examples: 2000 br Tier 1 always accepted 1200 br and a 900 br Tier 2 always accepted 650 to 700 br. I am talking ST. LT is different, but I never do LT until a girl and I have some history together. Interestingly this 2-tier system does not exist at Bomboa where all the girls seem happy with 700 br or a little less.Interesting observations. I noticed similar trends. An uptick early this year and the hotter girls asking for more.
From my personal experiences, tier 1 girls generally settle for 800 to 1000 and tier 2 girls settle for 500 to 800 for ST / HR). The funny thing is that the few girls who won't take 1000 for ST / HR (usually insist on at least 1200 to 1500 for ST / HR) and thus consider themselves Tier 1 or upper Tier 1, I only consider them to be tier 2 level. So it was easy for me to walk away. Just goes to show different strokes for different folks and everyone has a different sense of beauty.
It seems most of the girls also consider LT differently than I do. Most of the girls see no difference between 2-3 hrs at my hotel vs. A pernoite until the morning. They just charged the same for leaving the club "Saida", whether it's for a few hours or an overnight until the morning.
For LT, I've found most tier 1 girls will open at 2000 to 3000 and accept a 1200 to 1500 counter right away, especially if they know you are not a newbie as 1) know the general pricing of the club and 2) is a potential repeat client. The tier 2 girls I've found will take 800 to 1200 for a pernoite.
As with the ST examples, a few won't budge and want at least 2 to 3 k for a pernoite. With one only going from 4500 down to 4000. Almost all of those girls, I don't even consider Tier 1 caliber so I just moved on.
The above also just goes to show that everyome have different tastes. I am glad that is the case or we would all be fighting for the same girls!
Most Asians seem to gravitate towards lighter skinned, cute and innocent gazelles. White Gringos are usually more varied. Locals Brazilians usually tanned, tall, slutty with big Ts and As. That's based on both my observations of which girls are sitting with which clients. And also what girls I spent time with tells me.
The last girl I spent time with on my most recent trip was a young, lightly tanned cute and pretty petite English speaking Brazilian girl with amazing natural the's. Perfect for "Russian"! Those large natural breasts on such a small and thin frame makes her stand out and is an unicorn in my eyes. She tells me few local guys go for her, but white Gringos and Asians (both locals and visitors) make up 80%+ of her client base.
I know I don't haggle too aggressively, as I don't want to go too low and potentially impact service levels. I just pay what I am comfortable paying, even if it might be on the higher end of what locals and others tell me are the prevalent club rates. I also compare what regular / high end clinicas, other boates and online girls charge and make additional adjustments based on that info.
Interesting observations. I noticed similar trends. An uptick early this year and the hotter girls asking for more.
From my personal experiences, tier 1 girls generally settle for 800 to 1000 and tier 2 girls settle for 500 to 800 for ST / HR). The funny thing is that the few girls who won't take 1000 for ST / HR (usually insist on at least 1200 to 1500 for ST / HR) and thus consider themselves Tier 1 or upper Tier 1, I only consider them to be tier 2 level. So it was easy for me to walk away. Just goes to show different strokes for different folks and everyone has a different sense of beauty.
It seems most of the girls also consider LT differently than I do. Most of the girls see no difference between 2-3 hrs at my hotel vs. A pernoite until the morning. They just charged the same for leaving the club "Saida", whether it's for a few hours or an overnight until the morning.
For LT, I've found most tier 1 girls will open at 2000 to 3000 and accept a 1200 to 1500 counter right away, especially if they know you are not a newbie as 1) know the general pricing of the club and 2) is a potential repeat client. The tier 2 girls I've found will take 800 to 1200 for a pernoite.
As with the ST examples, a few won't budge and want at least 2 to 3 k for a pernoite. With one only going from 4500 down to 4000. Almost all of those girls, I don't even consider Tier 1 caliber so I just moved on.
The above also just goes to show that everyome have different tastes. I am glad that is the case or we would all be fighting for the same girls!
Most Asians seem to gravitate towards lighter skinned, cute and innocent gazelles. White Gringos are usually more varied. Locals Brazilians usually tanned, tall, slutty with big Ts and As. That's based on both my observations of which girls are sitting with which clients. And also what girls I spent time with tells me.
The last girl I spent time with on my most recent trip was a young, lightly tanned cute and pretty petite English speaking Brazilian girl with amazing natural the's. Perfect for "Russian"! Those large natural breasts on such a small and thin frame makes her stand out and is an unicorn in my eyes. She tells me few local guys go for her, but white Gringos and Asians (both locals and visitors) make up 80%+ of her client base.
I know I don't haggle too aggressively, as I don't want to go too low and potentially impact service levels. I just pay what I am comfortable paying, even if it might be on the higher end of what locals and others tell me are the prevalent club rates. I also compare what regular / high end clinicas, other boates and online girls charge and make additional adjustments based on that info.Inflation for the girls also, it now cost them 300 R to enter if they don't go 5 days a week. So between uber and their cost to go to work it could easily cost them 500 that night and they have no choice but to bump up their prices as well.
Quality control is why they bumping the price for girls to enter, this way they ensure the girls don't freelance and come to work 5 days a week and the weed out lower tier girls. Girls that can't commit to going will end up going to other boates where they have less restrictions or high fees to enter.
This gives them even more reason to prefer to talk to gringos since they know the guy is there to fuck and spend money.
Would you pay more for a Brazilian girl than one in the US with same quality?
Would you pay more for a Brazilian girl than one in the US with same quality?My answer is no in general. The problem is how do we agree on what is the same quality? Last year I posted this same picture, and there was at least one member saying one can find 20 - 30% of girls in Scandallo that look like her. But I saw absolutely none the time I was there up to this day. That just show how each one of us see beauty differently. LOL.
It's like some unique luxury rental properties that cost a fraction of the price of US properties but can command high rental price similar to US properties. It is because it's uniqueness and in limited supply and they are only targeted to certain type of customers. These properties will be in demand as long as there are sufficient quaintly of customers even if it is small so it does not matter what general public think.
..I know I don't haggle too aggressively, as I don't want to go too low and potentially impact service levels..I think one can still weed out the bad ones in the club. There are other factors that influence service. It is not obvious in this forum but it is more obvious in Medellin forum where members will discuss preparation like food, drinks, music, popcorn. Personally I just gave in because the girls were hot.
What is missing in this post is that if it is someone else who does not last long, that person can ask for two pops as he said she promised the world.
6) Scandallo. ... Did get a price though. She opened with 1000, I got her down to 400, which she accepted. She promised the world, including anal. I know this is apparently a great deal at Scandallo these days, but LOL, nope. She probably thinks I am a 10-min guy with her thing for Asians (I can easily go a full hour) ...I think two tier pricing has always existed as long as the club does not regulate it. Last year, I was paying 500 but some members were posting much higher prices. I think the current pricing just added a layer of dishonesty. A girl I went with for 500 last year now wants 1000 but went down to 500 automatically and the exchange last year was at 5. 3. Basically I guess all regulars that I know like Bianca can be had at old price that is 50% off. The less attractive ones are more honest and start with 500.
I have the most sessions with Scandallo girls but the best sessions I have are at Tangara. That is by far the best place for me and ironically it is the least expensive. The place is a little rundown. What make me go back are the number of girls they have and the new girls they have are just unmatched by any clincas. The best BBBJs, the best camel slides all are from Tangra. I still remember the girl teasing me repeatedly while doing came slide, do you want condom? do you want condom?; I kept answering NO NO NO. LOL. Just to add more context, I went to Prime almost every week but I left empty handed most of the times and always ended up in Miruna.
Would you pay more for a Brazilian girl than one in the US with same quality?Quality like appearance or performance? When I'm in the US I only look for Brazilian girls LOL. But they usually charge at least 400 usd a hour, for 2000 R I get over 24 hrs in Brazil.
Many of us monger outside of the US not because of the price but instead not to shit in our own backyard.
Axel Heyst
09-19-22, 17:17
My answer is no in general. The problem is how do we agree on what is the same quality? Last year I posted this same picture, and there was at least one member saying one can find 20 - 30% of girls in Scandallo that look like her. But I saw absolutely none the time I was there up to this day. That just show how each one of us see beauty differently. LOL.
It's like some unique luxury rental properties that cost a fraction of the price of US properties but can command high rental price similar to US properties. It is because it's uniqueness and in limited supply and they are only targeted to certain type of customers. These properties will be in demand as long as there are sufficient quaintly of customers even if it is small so it does not matter what general public think.I know this girl a little bit. KKK. Her stage name is Louise Nowak. I saw her add on Club Model in April 2022 when I was last in SP. IMHO she was one of the best lookers on that website, so I texted her. She responded quickly and seemed friendly. As our conversation continued, she sent me a zip file with 75 pics and videos of herself, and after a while we got down to business. She wanted 1500 BR which included a 500 br advance payment. In the friendliest way possible I told her I thought 1500 br was a tad high and asked if she would come down in price a little. I also told her I wouldn't send any money in advance. She took my words graciously, but she would not lower her terms or ask, so we ended the conversation on a "maybe we can get together some other time" friendly note. I mean there is no reason to be negative or insulting just because a girl and I can't come to terms. I still wanted her.
Anyway, the next day she texted me and asked if still I wanted to see her. I said I did, but I told her 1500 br was too high and this time I offered her 900 br, but sadly, she was still hung up on the 1500 BR which I wouldn't agree too. There was no mention of the 500 BR down payment. So, we left it at that although during our conversations I had told her I was an American who frequently flew down to SP on business and that if she ever changed her mind, she should call me, and we could have a good time together. I stayed in SP for 6 weeks that trip, but I never heard back from her again. Oh well, but I don't really care. I would not say that there are a ton of Scandallo girls (20% to 30%) as sexy as Louise Nowak, but there are number of high-quality lookers there (5 to 15) on any given night that can match her on looks plus talking and flirting with a super attractive Tier 1 girl in the bar is a far better way to find something good than arranging something blind over the internet. Sorry Louise, but it is true.
Here are a few more pics of Louise, the girl that got away. KKK.
I know this girl a little bit. KKK. Her stage name is Louise Nowak. I saw her add on Club Model in April 2022 when I was last in SP. IMHO she was one of the best lookers on that website, so I texted her. She responded quickly and seemed friendly. As our conversation continued, she sent me a zip file with 75 pics and videos of herself, and after a while we got down to business. She wanted 1500 BR which included a 500 br advance payment. In the friendliest way possible I told her I thought 1500 br was a tad high and asked if she would come down in price a little. I also told her I wouldn't send any money in advance. She took my words graciously, but she would not lower her terms or ask, so we ended the conversation on a "maybe we can get together some other time" friendly note. I mean there is no reason to be negative or insulting just because a girl and I can't come to terms. I still wanted her.
Anyway, the next day she texted me and asked if still I wanted to see her. I said I did, but I told her 1500 br was too high and this time I offered her 900 br, but sadly, she was still hung up on the 1500 BR which I wouldn't agree too. There was no mention of the 500 BR down payment. So, we left it at that although during our conversations I had told her I was an American who frequently flew down to SP on business and that if she ever changed her mind, she should call me, and we could have a good time together. I stayed in SP for 6 weeks that trip, but I never heard back from her again. Oh well, but I don't really care. I would not say that there are a ton of Scandallo girls (20% to 30%) as sexy as Louise Nowak, but there are number of high-quality lookers there (5 to 15) on any given night that can match her on looks plus talking and flirting with a super attractive Tier 1 girl in the bar is a far better way to find something good than arranging something blind over the internet. Sorry Louise, but it is true.
Here are a few more pics of Louise, the girl that got away. KKK.She's hot I wouldve just paid without the advance of course, as you said not many that look like her.
UniversalX
09-20-22, 07:06
Here are a few more pics of Louise, the girl that got away. KKK.Attractive, Oh well, in SP there are plenty the same if not better looking. Just got to find them or right place right time.
I notice in all of the photos in this forum of her that her makeup plays a big difference in her looks. Some girls look totally different with it while some girl looks better without it. The only way to find out is push her in a swimming pool and see if she comes out hot as before (jk). I personally prefer people without makeup.
My answer is no in general. The problem is how do we agree on what is the same quality? Last year I posted this same picture, and there was at least one member saying one can find 20 - 30% of girls in Scandallo that look like her. But I saw absolutely none the time I was there up to this day. That just show how each one of us see beauty differently. LOL.
It's like some unique luxury rental properties that cost a fraction of the price of US properties but can command high rental price similar to US properties. It is because it's uniqueness and in limited supply and they are only targeted to certain type of customers. These properties will be in demand as long as there are sufficient quaintly of customers even if it is small so it does not matter what general public think.
After the first night, we woke up too late for the hotel breakfast and instead had a good session before she left to get more clothes and take care of some personal stuff. She called her own Uber, took approx 3 hours to get stuff done and she came back. Never once asked for the Uber fares. She had told me that she might have to leave Friday evening for a few hours for some school stuff but she needed up rescheduling so I wouldn't miss the time with her.
We spent the weekend eating, drinking, walking around the hotel area, and headed to Mercado Municipal where she tried her first lobster and some exotic fruits. She is from Bahia originally so she like to eat spicy and likes to experiment with new tastes which definitely knocks her up a few points in my book. Most girls don't even want to try anything different.
Friday night was probably the best sexual session we had. After eating dinner at a new restaurant I found, we went to a gin and tonic bar to have a few drinks and talk. It was cool spot and after a few drinks, she looks at me and tells me she wants to fuck. So. Off we go back to the hotel.
In the room, both of us shower and she takes a bit longer than normal. Gets into bed and we go DATY, BBBJ and BBFS. Since I came that morning, it was taking me longer than usual. So she then decided to roll over to her belly and tells me to get to top of her and fuck her that way. This time she guides me in. Straight into her ass. She turns around and asks if I like anal. I was like FUCK YES. She says that is why she took so long in the shower. To clean herself properly and now that she was fully relaxed, she was ready. That got me excited and was banging her ass and she totally enjoyed till she came and then I pulled out a few seconds later.
Saturday and Sunday pass without any issues with her. She just loved getting fucked in the pussy and the ass. She also kept her word. Anytime I was hard, she would deal with it.
Sunday evening she left around 730 pm, paid her our negotiated price for the weekend and she called her own Uber and didn't ask for the cost. In fact, she never asked about her money. We made our deal and that was it. Nothing upfront and she didn’t even check to see if I had the cash. I paid her in the end and she put it her purse and said thanks. I told her to count it but she said that she trusts me and I don’t come across like a person who would rip people off. This has had to be the best version of IOP I have ever had in Brazil. This girl checked all the boxes for me and made sure she did her job properly and with all the gusto. Never said no to anything and just enjoyed her weekend. We talked about getting a threesome with her and my girl from Recife so let's see how that might play out. She is ok with interchanging as long as everyone has been tested. Hopefully, I might be able to schedule it for April.
New food places I tried:
Leggera Pizza Napoletana ranked #83 out of the top 100 pizza places in the world. Really good. If you like pizza, you will like their pizza.
Restaurante Il Pescatore Mediterrneo their shrimp risotto was awesome and their oysters were super fresh.
Pastel Kyoto on Avenida Paulista near the Renaissance a pretty good fresh cooked pastel. L with fresh sugarcane juice.
Casa de Ostras Mercado Municipal freshly shucked oysters and they cook anything you buy from the seafood sellers. She got to try the lobster which she liked but for me it was nothing amazing. I have had better but I think it was just the place. They were too busy and they really don't have the space to take time to do it right.
G&T Gin Bar specializing in a variety of gin and tonics. Pretty cool place to chill and hangout. Not too loud so you can talk.
Well. That does it for me this year. Next trip to Brazil will be in April since American Airlines changed their status qualification timeline.
FlowState985
09-20-22, 20:44
Here's the review site forumcutuca.com for Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, etc. The owner of these clinicas moved all the info there if you want to read it.
Creating account on it is a ***** thou, because the forum banned gmail, hotmail, yahoo. Basically all the free emails account that I know of, but you can read it without having to sign up.
Vagabundo1
09-21-22, 03:30
Local Brazilian men hate rich foreigners hacking into their good times with their well trained hoars!
Here's the review site forumcutuca.com for Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, etc. The owner of these clinicas moved all the info there if you want to read it.
Creating account on it is a ***** thou, because the forum banned gmail, hotmail, yahoo. Basically all the free emails account that I know of, but you can read it without having to sign up.
The Critic
09-21-22, 10:04
In the room, both of us shower and she takes a bit longer than normal. Gets into bed and we go DATY, BBBJ and BBFS. Since I came that morning, it was taking me longer than usual. So she then decided to roll over to her belly and tells me to get to top of her and fuck her that way. This time she guides me in. Straight into her ass. She turns around and asks if I like anal. I was like FUCK YES. She says that is why she took so long in the shower. To clean herself properly and now that she was fully relaxed, she was ready. That got me excited and was banging her ass and she totally enjoyed till she came and then I pulled out a few seconds later.
New food places I tried:
Leggera Pizza Napoletana ranked #83 out of the top 100 pizza places in the world. Really good. If you like pizza, you will like their pizza.
Restaurante Il Pescatore Mediterrneo their shrimp risotto was awesome and their oysters were super fresh.
Pastel Kyoto on Avenida Paulista near the Renaissance a pretty good fresh cooked pastel. L with fresh sugarcane juice.
Casa de Ostras Mercado Municipal freshly shucked oysters and they cook anything you buy from the seafood sellers. She got to try the lobster which she liked but for me it was nothing amazing. I have had better but I think it was just the place. They were too busy and they really don't have the space to take time to do it right.
G&T Gin Bar specializing in a variety of gin and tonics. Pretty cool place to chill and hangout. Not too loud so you can talk.
Well. That does it for me this year. Next trip to Brazil will be in April since American Airlines changed their status qualification timeline.Good story / post. Looks like you had a great time. Also thanks for the Food / Restaurant recommendations.
If the dollar falls to 2-3 R /1 USD. Would you still do 2000 R for 24 hours?
Quality like appearance or performance? When I'm in the US I only look for Brazilian girls LOL. But they usually charge at least 400 usd a hour, for 2000 R I get over 24 hrs in Brazil.
Many of us monger outside of the US not because of the price but instead not to shit in our own backyard.
I notice in all of the photos in this forum of her that her makeup plays a big difference in her looks. Some girls look totally different with it while some girl looks better without it. The only way to find out is push her in a swimming pool and see if she comes out hot as before (jk). I personally prefer people without makeup.Yea, she started with the glam pictures, then added others later. What I am trying to show is each one of us has different preference, the member saying 20% of Scandallo look like her is correct, but I say none is also correct. The picture always help to show the poster's point of view.
.... She wanted 1500 BR which included a 500 br advance payment. ...
... I offered her 900 br, but sadly, she was still hung up on the 1500 BR which I wouldn't agree too. ....You should have taken it because her rate has increased substantially now. lol. I made a similar offer and was not accepted.
This is where my analogy of luxury rental comes in. If more girls like her can be found, her price will not be sustainable because mongers will just go to others. So the only reason I know that can explain it is that she is rare to the eyes of her paying customers so she can not only sustain the price but also increase it. One needs pix to pay the deposit so I guess most of her customers are locals.
If the dollar falls to 2-3 R /1 USD. Would you still do 2000 R for 24 hours?I posted the same question a few months back. Luckily I have a BR bank account to save up while the rates are still good. As the world heads into a recession and BR has two presidential candidates that have no spending limit cap, I'm calling 6:1 next year.
Also as part of my strategy, a girl that I spends days with agreed to peg the dollar to her donation amount LOL. We all have our spending limits so it would depend on my financial situation if it hits 2:1 but I was in BR when it was 1. 5:1 and the girls were asking 1000 R for the night and that would be my max.
Yea, she started with the glam pictures, then added others later. What I am trying to show is each one of us has different preference, the member saying 20% of Scandallo look like her is correct, but I say none is also correct. The picture always help to show the poster's point of view.
You should have taken it because her rate has increased substantially now. lol. I made a similar offer and was not accepted.
This is where my analogy of luxury rental comes in. If more girls like her can be found, her price will not be sustainable because mongers will just go to others. So the only reason I know that can explain it is that she is rare to the eyes of her paying customers so she can not only sustain the price but also increase it. One needs pix to pay the deposit so I guess most of her customers are locals.Luiza Nowak has been discussed here before. Incredible looks, very high price and an enigma. There doesn't seem to be any first hand accounts of her service.
While she might be such a high level escort that her clients don't discuss her on the net, it's odd for an escort that has been advertising on prominent websites for an extended period to not have several "test drives" as the locals call a session.
Luiza Nowak has been discussed here before. Incredible looks, very high price and an enigma. There doesn't seem to be any first hand accounts of her service.....She started as Isabelle Drummond. There was a discussion about her in gpguia.
She started as Isabelle Drummond. There was a discussion about her in gpguia.I know she had escorted under that name. Name changes are generally not a good sign.
I know she had escorted under that name. Name changes are generally not a good sign.If I were her, having said what she said in the heat of the moment on GPGuia that would potentially insult her current or potential customers, I would change my name too so google search won't find it.
Vagabundo1
09-24-22, 11:39
She needs to get fisted by the negras in Casa 14 at Vila Mimosa!
She started as Isabelle Drummond. There was a discussion about her in gpguia.
300 RS.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/campinas/loira-linda-que-ama-beijo-na-boca-e-sexo-oral-id-ur4zf
I know this girl a little bit. KKK. Her stage name is Louise Nowak. I saw her add on Club Model in April 2022 when I was last in SP. IMHO she was one of the best lookers on that website, so I texted her. She responded quickly and seemed friendly. As our conversation continued, she sent me a zip file with 75 pics and videos of herself, and after a while we got down to business. She wanted 1500 BR which included a 500 br advance payment. In the friendliest way possible I told her I thought 1500 br was a tad high and asked if she would come down in price a little. I also told her I wouldn't send any money in advance. She took my words graciously, but she would not lower her terms or ask, so we ended the conversation on a "maybe we can get together some other time" friendly note. I mean there is no reason to be negative or insulting just because a girl and I can't come to terms. I still wanted her.
Anyway, the next day she texted me and asked if still I wanted to see her..
Axel Heyst
09-24-22, 18:14
300 RS.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/campinas/loira-linda-que-ama-beijo-na-boca-e-sexo-oral-id-ur4zfThis is not the same girl (Louise Nowak), not even close, but if you dig her give her a try and let us know how you made out.
50% upfront fee of 1500? LOL. You will never ever get that 750 reais back once you hit send. This is the fastest way to scam people and the person who you're talking with on the other end is a dude. This type of fraud is everywhere including on the Brazilian ebay (Mercadolivre).
She started as Isabelle Drummond. There was a discussion about her in gpguia.
First time traveler to SP here. This forum has provided some great advice, but a one questions I have for the more tenured ISGs who don't speak Portuguese. Do you typically communicate / negotiate in English over WhatsApp for clinicas and PAs, or do you use google translate? Any negotiation tips are welcome as well. Feel free to DM me any advice you may have for a newbie. I'll be in SP mid-October if anyone wants to meet-up.
FlowState985
09-28-22, 06:11
First time I sessioned a girl here and it was a bad one, just got back to the hotel and writing about this. So I saw a girl I like name Jasmine, tall about 5. 8 morena. She starts the shift probably around 6 PM and go into probably 2 AM. I asked her what's her rate, she quoted R1000 so I countered 800 if we go up to the room now, she agreed. Everything was friendly and GFE in the room. BBBJ with eye starring at me. Things were going pretty well I thought, then she had to run into the bathroom to pee at 40 minute mark.
When she came out, she told me in order to continue the full hour, I need to give her additional R200. We argued back and forth through translator, that is not what we agreed upon downstair. I told her she quoted R1000 and I countered R800 and she agreed to that. She said R800 was not for the full hour. After about 5 minute of back and forth, she said it is fine we can continue for the full hour at R800, but at this point, I lost the boner, mood, and interest in her to continue. I told her let's just ended here. I paid her what agreed which is R800.
I guess from now on I got to make sure, when they quoted an hour is to make sure they stay a full hour and everything got to agreed upon. Oh and you track your own hour in the room, if you go over the hour, it is prorated.
First time traveler to SP here. This forum has provided some great advice, but a one questions I have for the more tenured ISGs who don't speak Portuguese. Do you typically communicate / negotiate in English over WhatsApp for clinicas and PAs, or do you use google translate? Any negotiation tips are welcome as well. Feel free to DM me any advice you may have for a newbie. I'll be in SP mid-October if anyone wants to meet-up.Google Translate. You don't really negotiate at clincas, at least for me I have not tried to pay more to get what I want, but you can talk to the girl to make sure she would provide the service you need using Google Translate.
Hi. I've been to Sao Paulo a few times and quite familiar with the escort website (clubmodel, splove etc), and I find them a little difficult because I prefer girls speak some English (I know this is very hard to find), but the girls on these sites mostly speak zero English apart from one or two and I find that the pictures are also very misleading. If I go on these sites, I probably find 3-4 girls who I want to book and then I find that they are never available when you need to see them or they string you along a bit and seem to be playing games trying to find the job that's best for them. So I end up spending all night trying to find someone on those sites and come up empty.
I like quality and don't mind paying so 1500,2000, 2500 is actually no problem if I'm getting someone good and worth the price. So looking for other options. Can anyone tell me price at Scandalo / Cafe Foto? I think it might be worth a look if only to have a few drinks and a look out of interest. Are these still the two high end places in SP?
Also, I've been told by a girl that works (and who is very hot, and speaks perfect English, very high end girl), that has an agent. She would be a level above the girls on the sites, but she said because we'd never met that she couldn't introduce me to the agent (long story how we were in contact). Does anyone know of anything like this in Sao Paulo?
One more thing I'm interested in is freelancers or bars in SP? I'm going to stay at Hotel Unique and I know Skye Bar has them, but is there anywhere else in SP? I've been told of one more but can't remember the name.
Any help appreciated.
Hi. I've been to Sao Paulo a few times and quite familiar with the escort website (clubmodel, splove etc), and I find them a little difficult because I prefer girls speak some English (I know this is very hard to find), but the girls on these sites mostly speak zero English apart from one or two and I find that the pictures are also very misleading. If I go on these sites, I probably find 3-4 girls who I want to book and then I find that they are never available when you need to see them or they string you along a bit and seem to be playing games trying to find the job that's best for them. So I end up spending all night trying to find someone on those sites and come up empty.
I like quality and don't mind paying so 1500,2000, 2500 is actually no problem if I'm getting someone good and worth the price. So looking for other options. Can anyone tell me price at Scandalo / Cafe Foto? I think it might be worth a look if only to have a few drinks and a look out of interest. Are these still the two high end places? .
I have tried a few of the girls from the website and in the end, it just seemed to be more work than it was worth. I prefer going to Scandello and trying to find someone for the weekend. This way I get to scope out all the girls, talk to a few of them and settle on one or two that I connect with and vice versa. At the price level you are quoting, you will definitely find something to your liking at Scandello. The last few times I have been to Scandello have worked out fine for me so I usually don't need to try out other venues or options.
I guess from now on I got to make sure, when they quoted an hour is to make sure they stay a full hour and everything got to agreed upon. Oh and you track your own hour in the room, if you go over the hour, it is prorated.Negotiations work only if the girl is not a scammer. Otherwise, it doesn't matter what you negotiate upfront, she will show her true colors in the room and makes sure you have a shitty session. It is impossible to negotiate every tiny detail, so a scammer can take advantage of that and complain about lots of things inside the room and get away with it. My advice is to pick a good girl next time. Just kidding. I wish it is that easy. I try to learn from my mistakes and avoid repeating them, but it is difficult to avoid these situations completely.
FlowState985
09-28-22, 20:14
Negotiations work only if the girl is not a scammer. Otherwise, it doesn't matter what you negotiate upfront, she will show her true colors in the room and makes sure you have a shitty session. It is impossible to negotiate every tiny detail, so a scammer can take advantage of that and complain about lots of things inside the room and get away with it. My advice is to pick a good girl next time. Just kidding. I wish it is that easy. I try to learn from my mistakes and avoid repeating them, but it is difficult to avoid these situations completely.Yeh, I guess it comes with trial, error, and time. I am not well versed with looking out for scammers and sharks, which probably main reason I don't prefer to session at boates. Atleast in Rio Termas, everything is fixed. Live and learn I guess.
Here's what I notice, I did buy a girl there a drink and she asked for my card to give to bartender, the bartender gave back my card plus a red card and she kept that red one. I assumed it is for her kickback with the place. I drank 3-4 beer plus her drink with was a mixed type of gin drink, and the total bill came out to be R174.I leaned about the lady drinks schema in Casarao during my trip in May. I saw this pretty young girl (18 yo) walk into the club with couple of her friends, went and spoke to her. Her friends aske me to buy her a drink because she is thirsty, not a good sign but I bought her a drink anyway. She got her cut exactly like you mentioned. I think those drinks are about 150 are each. In my personal experience, most of the girls who asked for a drink within few moments of talking to them usually not good in the room. Of course there are exceptions, luckily she turned out to be one of them.
A girl could make good money without going to room by just hitting men for drinks. I don't think that is a good incentive.
Yeh, I guess it comes with trial, error, and time. I am not well versed with looking out for scammers and sharks, which probably main reason I don't prefer to session at boates. Atleast in Rio Termas, everything is fixed. Live and learn I guess.I am also enjoying Rio termas more a more. Other than couple of duds, all of my session in Solarium and 4 x4 were really good.
Same goes in the US at strip clubs. Bartenders will make a non alcoholic drink like. Ice water and juice or add some color in it and make it look like an alcoholic drink while charging the clients the real price of an alcoholic drink. Never buy any girl a drink or eat at these venues. Some girls would just walk around with the drink and dump it out in the bathroom or hands it to another girl as Ive seen it with my own eyes.
I leaned about the lady drinks schema in Casarao during my trip in May. I saw this pretty young girl (18 yo) walk into the club with couple of her friends, went and spoke to her. Her friends aske me to buy her a drink because she is thirsty, not a good sign but I bought her a drink anyway. She got her cut exactly like you mentioned. I think those drinks are about 150 are each. In my personal experience, most of the girls who asked for a drink within few moments of talking to them usually not good in the room. Of course there are exceptions, luckily she turned out to be one of them.
A girl could make good money without going to room by just hitting men for drinks. I don't think that is a good incentive.
Yeh, I guess it comes with trial, error, and time. I am not well versed with looking out for scammers and sharks, which probably main reason I don't prefer to session at boates. Atleast in Rio Termas, everything is fixed. Live and learn I guess.I think it's just bad luck and it's more costly. I like Termas too but the quantity is much smaller and not as consistent as boates.
I leaned about the lady drinks schema in Casarao during my trip in May. I saw this pretty young girl (18 yo) walk into the club with couple of her friends, went and spoke to her. Her friends aske me to buy her a drink because she is thirsty, not a good sign but I bought her a drink anyway. She got her cut exactly like you mentioned. I think those drinks are about 150 are each. In my personal experience, most of the girls who asked for a drink within few moments of talking to them usually not good in the room. Of course there are exceptions, luckily she turned out to be one of them.
A girl could make good money without going to room by just hitting men for drinks. I don't think that is a good incentive.I read GPGuia to not buy drinks but did not realize it is that expensive. I met a 18 yo morena exactly like you described. During negotiation, she lowered her rate by 50 and wanted me to buy her a drink instead when she already had a new drink in her hand. She said the drink was 85 or similar. That confused the hell out of me especially without the help of Google translate.
The Critic
09-29-22, 04:41
Same goes in the US at strip clubs. Bartenders will make a non alcoholic drink like. Ice water and juice or add some color in it and make it look like an alcoholic drink while charging the clients the real price of an alcoholic drink. Never buy any girl a drink or eat at these venues. Some girls would just walk around with the drink and dump it out in the bathroom or hands it to another girl as Ive seen it with my own eyes.
I read GPGuia to not buy drinks but did not realize it is that expensive. I met a 18 yo morena exactly like you described. During negotiation, she lowered her rate by 50 and wanted me to buy her a drink instead when she already had a new drink in her hand. She said the drink was 85 or similar. That confused the hell out of me especially without the help of Google translate.
At Scandalo and Casarao (and other clubs / bars) depend on when you arrive you get a consumable from the entrance fee. The entrance fee (includes the consumable portion) therefore "sunk cost". I try not to give the "House" anymore that the consumable amount (I. E. , out of pocket costs) but that is just me. So if I was so inclined to pay for a drink it's coming from the consumable amount. Yes if you pay for lady drinks from out of pocket funds then yes I would be concerned if it was a scam or not consumed. If you do then make sure you ask the bartender the cost of the drink and if your comfortable with the price then you order the drink personally or decline ordering the drink.
There are pros and cons to buying lady drinks, it could help with the connection / session or piss you off if you feel your being scammed.
Hi ISGers, how are you?
Qatar World Cup 2022 will take place between 20-Nov and 18-Dec, and Brasil is a firm candidate to be the world champion. You may have your favorites, but Brasil is a firm one no doubt.
I had the chance to be in Brasil during two world cups in the last two decades and I can tell that it will have a very high impact in the mood of people. Positive of course. Every time Brasil played, streets of Rio, Sao Paulo and the interior, it was a carnival. And much more when Brasil wins! Games will take place between 7 am and 4 pm Brasilia time according to schedules.
So, if you're planning your trip for those dates, have this in mind. Bars and streets will be a party!
In my case, I will cross Brasil from Brasil Far West to Sao Paulo this time in few flights and bus. Lots of video to roll, and of course, productions with hooties and sweeties, pros and non pros.
Time to have a super cold beer in the Amazon Basin and talk to locals.
This is actually the only thing I don't like about Brazil. Their national soccer team! LOL.
They are like the NY yankees of baseball, New England Patriots of fball. LA lakers of bball. And Scandallo of nightclubs LOL. I was also there during the cups.
Hi ISGers, how are you?
Qatar World Cup 2022 will take place between 20-Nov and 18-Dec, and Brasil is a firm candidate to be the world champion. You may have your favorites, but Brasil is a firm one no doubt.
I had the chance to be in Brasil during two world cups in the last two decades and I can tell that it will have a very high impact in the mood of people. Positive of course. Every time Brasil played, streets of Rio, Sao Paulo and the interior, it was a carnival. And much more when Brasil wins! Games will take place between 7 am and 4 pm Brasilia time according to schedules.
So, if you're planning your trip for those dates, have this in mind. Bars and streets will be a party!
In my case, I will cross Brasil from Brasil Far West to Sao Paulo this time in few flights and bus. Lots of video to roll, and of course, productions with hooties and sweeties, pros and non pros.
Time to have a super cold beer in the Amazon Basin and talk to locals.
LoveItHere69
10-01-22, 17:51
Some girls would just walk around with the drink and dump it out in the bathroom or hands it to another girl as Ive seen it with my own eyes.I saw a girl drinking at a small bar table (2 foot circle). But the one center post holding the table was thick and wooden with a bunch of carvings so all bumpy. She took the liquor shot under the table and splashed it on the center post holding the table so you could not see it. She saw me as she did it and I just laughed. Thought it was so funny.
I heard stories where girls would bet the guy buying drinks that they could drink X amount of shots in 30 minutes. But during that time go to the bathroom and vomit the shots out of their system.
Jajajajaja yeah, this 2022 Brasil team is a firm candidate. They were not the last 2 world cups.
It will be very relaxing. If Putin allows of course.
Here two links to clips from guys who have walked in Scandallo before open hours:
Club: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFLjEenk/ (3 minutes).
Building: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFLjTVnX/.
There was a third short video also on tiktok with people but I see now it was deleted.
This is actually the only thing I don't like about Brazil. Their national soccer team! LOL.
They are like the NY yankees of baseball, New England Patriots of fball. LA lakers of bball. And Scandallo of nightclubs LOL. I was also there during the cups.
Hello all, and thanks for this invaluable source of information. I just got a subscription going, but I've been lurking for a while.
I'm going to be in Sao Paulo from October 10 to 15th, then I'm going to Jericoacoara (not for mongering, but Tinder is pretty damn active. I got a few dates aligned there). I may spend another week in Sao Paulo in December when before I leave the country.
I've taken some notes from the various reports here, I'm kinda keen to hit Scandallo but I find it might be overwhelming. I've gotten in touch with some twitter girls mentioned in this thread, I'll see what happens.
I'm struggling to decide which hotel to stay in. I don't have Mariott points, nor do I have the budget to stay in 5 star hotels. Anyone would have a recommendation for a 3-4 star hotel well situated for normal tourism and that will not cause trouble when I invite a lady to my room? I hear Jardins is a pretty cool suburb to stay in. Do you concur?
Anyway, anyone is going to be in SP during that time and fancy catching up? I'm new to Brazil, but not to this hobby, and would enjoy meeting like-minded peeps!
Axel Heyst
10-03-22, 03:47
Hi Kalysto,
In the 4-star girl friendly category I recommend Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi and the Melia Jardim Europa. Itaim Bibi is just as nice and safe as Jardim with lots of good restaurants and shops. You will be fine staying at either 4-star hotel. Frankly the only major difference I have found between these 2 hotels and a 5 star SP hotel is a show palace lobby and fancy dining room. On my next visit I am staying at the Renaissance, Hyatt, & Intercontinental on points and vouchers, but after I use up all my travel pts, I am moving to the 4 stars and it will not bother me at all.
For a 1st time 5-night visit to SP, I recommend that you focus on the Moema Clinicas for afternoon fun and the Boates for evening diversion. There is nothing to worry about in going to Scandallo or Bombao, my 2 favorite boates. Both of these boates are super friendly and the staff and girls will make sure you have a good time. Both boates have excellent rooms in house, so there is really no reason to take a girl back to your hotel unless you really want to. Most of the time I will stick around Scandallo or Bomboa after my1st tryst, have something to eat at their excellent restaurants, and then begin looking for a 2nd girl to round out the evening. It is a lot a fun. Try it. I think you will like it. I only ask girls over to my hotel after I have had at least 3 or 4 sessions with them in-house, and we are on real friendly terms. Cutting the boate out of the picture and having a favorite girl come over under these circumstances is a sure thing and lot of fun, but it should not be rushed IMHO. YMMV.
Have a great time. I know you will. And let me know what you think of Jericoacoara. I am thinking of taking my favorite Scandallo girl up there in May, but 1st I am taking her on a short trip to Ilhabela in November. Like I said, I never rush things with a girl. I have been with this particular Scandallo girl at least 14 times over the last year and we get along REAL GOOD. KKK.
Hello all, and thanks for this invaluable source of information. I just got a subscription going, but I've been lurking for a while.
I'm going to be in Sao Paulo from October 10 to 15th, then I'm going to Jericoacoara (not for mongering, but Tinder is pretty damn active. I got a few dates aligned there). I may spend another week in Sao Paulo in December when before I leave the country.
I've taken some notes from the various reports here, I'm kinda keen to hit Scandallo but I find it might be overwhelming. I've gotten in touch with some twitter girls mentioned in this thread, I'll see what happens.
I'm struggling to decide which hotel to stay in. I don't have Mariott points, nor do I have the budget to stay in 5 star hotels. Anyone would have a recommendation for a 3-4 star hotel well situated for normal tourism and that will not cause trouble when I invite a lady to my room? I hear Jardins is a pretty cool suburb to stay in. Do you concur?
Anyway, anyone is going to be in SP during that time and fancy catching up? I'm new to Brazil, but not to this hobby, and would enjoy meeting like-minded peeps!I'd be down to catch-up but arriving morning of October 15th.
Well, that is very, very nice Axel Heyst. Now I'm comfortable booking a room.
Hi Kalysto,
In the 4-star girl friendly category I recommend Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi and the Melia Jardim Europa. Itaim Bibi is just as nice and safe as Jardim with lots of good restaurants and shops. You will be fine staying at either 4-star hotel. Frankly the only major difference I have found between these 2 hotels and a 5 star SP hotel is a show palace lobby and fancy dining room. On my next visit I am staying at the Renaissance, Hyatt, & Intercontinental on points and vouchers, but after I use up all my travel pts, I am moving to the 4 stars and it will not bother me at all.
For a 1st time 5-night visit to SP, I recommend that you focus on the Moema Clinicas for afternoon fun and the Boates for evening diversion. There is nothing to worry about in going to Scandallo or Bombao, my 2 favorite boates. Both of these boates are super friendly and the staff and girls will make sure you have a good time. Both boates have excellent rooms in house, so there is really no reason to take a girl back to your hotel unless you really want to. Most of the time I will stick around Scandallo or Bomboa after my1st tryst, have something to eat at their excellent restaurants, and then begin looking for a 2nd girl to round out the evening. It is a lot a fun. Try it. I think you will like it. I only ask girls over to my hotel after I have had at least 3 or 4 sessions with them in-house, and we are on real friendly terms..
300 reais before 7 pm all it can be used for consuming food or drinks. 500 after 7 pm 300 for consumption. They want to filter the quality of the clients and girls. Add room 220 an hour and girl you will be dropping around 2000 so don't be shell shocked.
Well, that's a bit steep, and I'm struggling to understand. I had an exchange with Isa Nakamura quoted by another user here, who's a twitter girl and looks pretty hot and provides great service, at 400 reais for 1 HR at my hotel. I'm kinda curious to figure out if Scandallo is worth the 5 times step up?
300 reais before 7 pm all it can be used for consuming food or drinks. 500 after 7 pm 300 for consumption. They want to filter the quality of the clients and girls. Add room 220 an hour and girl you will be dropping around 2000 so don't be shell shocked.
Well, that's a bit steep, and I'm struggling to understand. I had an exchange with Isa Nakamura quoted by another user here, who's a twitter girl and looks pretty hot and provides great service, at 400 reais for 1 HR at my hotel. I'm kinda curious to figure out if Scandallo is worth the 5 times step up?It's probably debatable that you need to drop 2000 reals at Scandallo, but the point you are making is the same. Yes, there are incredible hot Sao Paulo escorts to be had for a lot less.
One shouldn't look at Scandallo as a one hour session. It's more of a night out. Think of the cover and consumption as a night out at a club where there will be plenty of hot women.
Sometimes you just want to book an escort and get down to business. Other times you want to look around the candy store before you drop your dime.
300 reais before 7 pm all it can be used for consuming food or drinks. 500 after 7 pm 300 for consumption. They want to filter the quality of the clients and girls. Add room 220 an hour and girl you will be dropping around 2000 so don't be shell shocked.Don't understand your math. How much are you paying the girl? I have never paid more than 700 for a 9+ in Scandallo and I was there in July. The lesser looking ones can even be had for 400-500 for an hour.
I got a very hot one for R400 at around 4:30 am. Yes, in Scandallo.
Then the day after we met for the same price in my hotel.
Don't understand your math. How much are you paying the girl? I have never paid more than 700 for a 9+ in Scandallo and I was there in July. The lesser looking ones can even be had for 400-500 for an hour.
Don't understand your math. How much are you paying the girl? I have never paid more than 700 for a 9+ in Scandallo and I was there in July. The lesser looking ones can even be had for 400-500 for an hour.Read my previous posts.
Since last month girls have to pay 300 to enter add on their Uber, bag storage, food that's 400 R. A girl will not go for 400-500 anymore unless she was there last night and does not have to pay 300. There are maybe 50 girls that are full timers there so they do not pay the 300. But the majority are there some days because they have other things going on like school or another job. 500 entrance plus addition consumption above 300 add on 800-1000 girl 250 room it's around to 2000.
300 reais before 7 pm all it can be used for consuming food or drinks. 500 after 7 pm 300 for consumption. They want to filter the quality of the clients and girls. Add room 220 an hour and girl you will be dropping around 2000 so don't be shell shocked.Scandallo really needs to filter out low quality girls. Here are some tips that might help newbies avoid scammers. Note that even very experienced guys like SocratesNY and someone else whose session was cut short to 40 minutes, still couldn't escape scammers. So these tips only help to avoid the obvious scammers that I stupidly fell and paid for.
1. Girls who rush you to go upstairs.
2. Girls who say they are only there for today only and will go somewhere far away for a long period of time, so this is your only chance to be with her.
3. Girls who offer discount for the 2nd session while you are still negotiating the very first session with her.
4. Girls who don't give out phone number or only give out phone number after going upstairs.
5. Girls who ask for a drink after you barely started talking to her.
6. Girls who can't remember basic things about you that you've already told her.
7. Girls who can't keep their story straight.
8. Girls who give you the perfect answers for every question, painting themselves as some selective high class fresh meat and you meet their definition of a gentleman so that's why they're talking to you. But if you keep up with the questions, their stories will start falling apart (see number 7 above).
9. Girls who are the pros. This is a hard one, but you can tell by the way they conduct themselves. They are efficient in what they do, they know where to go when to go where to stand, what to order, how to eat.
Other observations:
Most of them will say they are new and you would be her first client for the day even if you saw her going upstairs with 2 guys earlier.
Unless you have no accent, you will be treated as a gringo and will be quoted gringo prices which are usually 1000 for 1 hour and 2000 for overnight. I think the going rates as of last week for the 7's to 9's was 600-800 an hour and 1200-1500 overnight.
Don't give them the benefit of the doubt, whatever vibe you get from them while talking in the club doesn't get any better in the room.
You should explicitly let them know what you want.
Some of them might stalk you.
I wonder hows the quality and quantity of Scandallo now with the new prices.
Read my previous posts.
Since last month girls have to pay 300 to enter add on their Uber, bag storage, food that's 400 R. A girl will not go for 400-500 anymore unless she was there last night and does not have to pay 300. There are maybe 50 girls that are full timers there so they do not pay the 300. But the majority are there some days because they have other things going on like school or another job. 500 entrance plus addition consumption above 300 add on 800-1000 girl 250 room it's around to 2000.
#5 is the most annoying one in this whole list!
I just reply with a big fat NOPE!
Also another one is when you're sitting there eating and want peace and quiet and some random girl (especially the ones you don't want) comes up to you and starts talking and invite herself to your table.
Scandallo really needs to filter out low quality girls. Here are some tips that might help newbies avoid scammers. Note that even very experienced guys like SocratesNY and someone else whose session was cut short to 40 minutes, still couldn't escape scammers. So these tips only help to avoid the obvious scammers that I stupidly fell and paid for.
1. Girls who rush you to go upstairs.
2. Girls who say they are only there for today only and will go somewhere far away for a long period of time, so this is your only chance to be with her.
3. Girls who offer discount for the 2nd session while you are still negotiating the very first session with her.
4. Girls who don't give out phone number or only give out phone number after going upstairs.
5. Girls who ask for a drink after you barely started talking to her.
6. Girls who can't remember basic things about you that you've already told her.
7. Girls who can't keep their story straight.
8. Girls who give you the perfect answers for every question, painting themselves as some selective high class fresh meat and you meet their definition of a gentleman so that's why they're talking to you. But if you keep up with the questions, their stories will start falling apart (see number 7 above).
9. Girls who are the pros. This is a hard one, but you can tell by the way they conduct themselves. They are efficient in what they do, they know where to go when to go where to stand, what to order, how to eat.
Other observations:
Most of them will say they are new and you would be her first client for the day even if you saw her going upstairs with 2 guys earlier.
Unless you have no accent, you will be treated as a gringo and will be quoted gringo prices which are usually 1000 for 1 hour and 2000 for overnight. I think the going rates as of last week for the 7's to 9's was 600-800 an hour and 1200-1500 overnight.
Don't give them the benefit of the doubt, whatever vibe you get from them while talking in the club doesn't get any better in the room.
You should explicitly let them know what you want.
Some of them might stalk you.
Read my previous posts.
Since last month girls have to pay 300 to enter add on their Uber, bag storage, food that's 400 R. A girl will not go for 400-500 anymore unless she was there last night and does not have to pay 300. There are maybe 50 girls that are full timers there so they do not pay the 300. But the majority are there some days because they have other things going on like school or another job. 500 entrance plus addition consumption above 300 add on 800-1000 girl 250 room it's around to 2000.I'm wondering why nobody uses Seeking / Tinder / Instagram (I haven't seen any reports) I'm sure some Scandallo girls have online presence and could be had for much lower rates if met outside of Scandallo. 2000 reals including all the fees, sounds about right. It sucks to pay that much, almost 400 USD for 1 HR of service or 1 pop. I don't count the time you spend at the club eating, drinking, etc because the ultimate goal for most of us is to fuck, not just hang out at the bar and go back to a hotel with blue balls. For me personally, 1 hour in the room is nothing, and I hate to be in a rush. Booking a girls for multiple hours would be super expensive, doesn't make any sense. Taking her out without a prior test drive could be a disaster, and also, quite expensive too. Guys need to take into account other costs. Flights, hotel, etc. Everything adds up quickly. I have said it before, if one wants a quickie with a relatively hot girl, one should visit clinicas, as they are much better value. For overnight GFE dates I would rather meet someone off Seeking or Tinder. Scandallo is a good place to just chill / drink with fellow mongers and check out the talent, collect phone numbers.
Scandallo really needs to filter out low quality girls. Here are some tips that might help newbies avoid scammers. Note that even very experienced guys like SocratesNY and someone else whose session was cut short to 40 minutes, still couldn't escape scammers. So these tips only help to avoid the obvious scammers that I stupidly fell and paid for.
1. Girls who rush you to go upstairs.
2. Girls who say they are only there for today only and will go somewhere far away for a long period of time, so this is your only chance to be with her.
3. Girls who offer discount for the 2nd session while you are still negotiating the very first session with her.
4. Girls who don't give out phone number or only give out phone number after going upstairs.
5. Girls who ask for a drink after you barely started talking to her.
6. Girls who can't remember basic things about you that you've already told her.
7. Girls who can't keep their story straight..I had a girl duo approach me in the nightclub one time while I was sitting there having a drink. After talking and getting to know each other for a few minutes, I couldn't believe they both asked me for a tip just for talking to me! Of course I told them no. Then they're going to act like they're surprised! GTFOH! That was the worst interaction I've ever had at Scandallo. Well, there was the time I was sitting at the bar and there were like three girls near me, and one of them cut a silent but deadly fart and stunk up the place! LOLOLOL!
I'm wondering why nobody uses Seeking / Tinder / Instagram (I haven't seen any reports) I'm sure some Scandallo girls have online presence and could be had for much lower rates if met outside of Scandallo. 2000 reals including all the fees, sounds about right. It sucks to pay that much, almost 400 USD for 1 HR of service or 1 pop. I don't count the time you spend at the club eating, drinking, etc because the ultimate goal for most of us is to fuck, not just hang out at the bar and go back to a hotel with blue balls. For me personally, 1 hour in the room is nothing, and I hate to be in a rush. Booking a girls for multiple hours would be super expensive, doesn't make any sense. Taking her out without a prior test drive could be a disaster, and also, quite expensive too. Guys need to take into account other costs. Flights, hotel, etc. Everything adds up quickly. I have said it before, if one wants a quickie with a relatively hot girl, one should visit clinicas, as they are much better value. For overnight GFE dates I would rather meet someone off Seeking or Tinder. Scandallo is a good place to just chill / drink with fellow mongers and check out the talent, collect phone numbers.2000 is overnight and not one hour upstairs and this can be negotiated down to somewhere between 12-1500. I prefer to do this instead of the 1 HR sessions. I enjoy spending time with the girls and having a few drinks.
NiceFirst well put. I usually avoid the girls who are super aggressive when they barely meet you, be it physical or verbal, I just avoid them. If a girl asks for a drink right away, I say no thanks. Not interested. There are girls who are just so stupid (can't explain it any other way) they keep saying the same thing and have nothing else to say and then comes the long uncomfortable silence that forces them to walk away.
This is part of the experience at Scandello. The possibility to filter out hot women and pick exactly or almost exactly something that fits your needs.
I'm wondering why nobody uses Seeking / Tinder / Instagram (I haven't seen any reports) I'm sure some Scandallo girls have online presence and could be had for much lower rates if met outside of Scandallo. 2000 reals including all the fees, sounds about right. It sucks to pay that much, almost 400 USD for 1 HR of service or 1 pop. I don't count the time you spend at the club eating, drinking...I met a girl at Scandallo during my last trip who claims to be a fashion model and she has a sizeable following on IG. I doubt I would get her attention if I contact her on IG. I wondered if her followers know her face is completely different in person. I took her upstairs and we went over the one hour limit, and there is no knock on the door. She does not charge me for the extra time. I just paid the extra hotel room time to Scandello. But I was stupid to tip her, and that increases my cost subsequently because I saw her quite a few times later in my place, and there was never a one hour limit.
Another repeat I met at the same time used to be on Seeking but not anymore. She also came to my place several times without one hour limit.
Hotter girls have the advantage online but Scandallo tips the scale to my favor. I think it would take me hours or days on Seeking to do what I can accomplish in a few minutes in Scandallo.
There were other times when the girl and I went to love motel that we pratically stayed ntil the Sun came out. Same price without 1 hour limit. I don't really do overnight as most of the times I just want to be alone but these just happened.
You are very good at Seeking but it takes time to get to where you are. I have been on Seeking multiple years too and I had two long term SB arrangements. LOL.
I also had trips where I fucked 1 to 2 girls from boates every day and maybe up to 10 girls in one week, as many of the guys here. My "leaving las Vegas" times, I call it. It was great of course.
When you eat lots of incredible dishes, you end up losing the real taste of great food. The same happens fucking cute women 365/24/7. There is the moment where you get bored of squendello girls, as I read from other ISGers.
If you want to taste flesh for the gods, like those influencers from instagram and TikTok that will never ever reply a DM, you must have lots of patiente. Fuck 1 or 2 of such goddesses in a year (you fuck pros during the rest of the year of course, we're not monks).
Being in the after party of fashion runways isn't hard, but you must be there and TALK to make the proposal and talk to agents (agent is simply a higher class of pimp) only to find that the model was in the runway with no payment at all, or maybe she was paid with clothes and make up. Girls love lights and stages. Of course you won't tell the agent "hey man, I want to fuck your model, how much for a whole day" he will kick your ass, no doubt. In Argentina you can say that directly to some agents, indeed. Instead, you can say something that will be of her interest "My client needs a model for his travel cases catalog bla bla bla" then you book the model and you take the crew to a lovely beach, hundreds of kilometers from town, including make up, wardrobe, etc. Of course, before all this, you must have information from contacts that the model gives after hour services for trips, or things classy girls like.
Sure, that will cost like 2-3 crazy squendello night outs, but you'll have the most incredible influencer with 100 K followers, nude licking your balls. Pink flesh only for the few.
Do you like solid 10's? Well, I do. I crown my dick with such flesh from time to time. And from time to time is good, so I don't lose the taste of great food.
You must have a ton of patient only. But the planning is a mouth watering experience of course.
Note: Talent in pics not Brazilian, south american.
I'm wondering why nobody uses Seeking / Tinder / Instagram (I haven't seen any reports) .
SoberHans69
10-07-22, 15:05
Planning on going to Sao Paulo towards the end of January for two weeks but the prices of flights from the UK are crazy at the minute.
Last time I went to Rio it was around £500 but cheapest to Sao Paulo or Rio during this time is £800 plus. I went to Rio in March last time so not sure how much difference that makes.
I know flight prices are up in general bit they aren't up that much to other countries.
I wonder hows the quality and quantity of Scandallo now with the new prices.Obviously there are alot of gringos there taking advantage of the exchange. Others will head to other clubs.
I was there last week and this week and noticed it was less crowded, walking through the night club section at night was easy and not super crowded.
Two things will happen, there will be more full timers so they avoid the 300 fee and freelance hot ones that know they will have no issues getting clients if they need to pay 300. And that is what I saw this week. I sampled 3 girls that were their first time there (they don't pay 300 their first time there), 2 did not know their value so they accepted 600, other one was a solid 10 and wanted 1000 which I gladly paid to test drive, felt like driving a Ferrari.
Brasil / Sao Paulo is the largest economy in Latin America, there will always be rich locals or visitors willing to splurge.
I'm wondering why nobody uses Seeking / Tinder / Instagram (I haven't seen any reports) I'm sure some Scandallo girls have online presence and could be had for much lower rates if met outside of Scandallo. 2000 reals including all the fees, sounds about right. It sucks to pay that much, almost 400 USD for 1 HR of service or 1 pop. I don't count the time you spend at the club eating, drinking, etc because the ultimate goal for most of us is to fuck, not just hang out at the bar and go back to a hotel with blue balls. For me personally, 1 hour in the room is nothing, and I hate to be in a rush. Booking a girls for multiple hours would be super expensive, doesn't make any sense. Taking her out without a prior test drive could be a disaster, and also, quite expensive too. Guys need to take into account other costs. Flights, hotel, etc. Everything adds up quickly. I have said it before, if one wants a quickie with a relatively hot girl, one should visit clinicas, as they are much better value. For overnight GFE dates I would rather meet someone off Seeking or Tinder. Scandallo is a good place to just chill / drink with fellow mongers and check out the talent, collect phone numbers.I would include the sight seeing as the price of admissions, like going to the strip club. SA / Tinder / IG is not a guarantee fuck and requires some ability to communicate in Porto and the rip off factor is much larger risk. Plus I hate the photo vs in person surprise. In the club gives you some security the girl will not rip you off. If the girl really likes you then the rate is secondary to her, many times I took girls out without an agreed price and they told me they will accept whatever present I give them. That way you are guaranteed good service and she will not bounce, pay for performance setup.
I would include the sight seeing as the price of admissions, like going to the strip club. SA / Tinder / IG is not a guarantee fuck and requires some ability to communicate in Porto and the rip off factor is much larger risk. Plus I hate the photo vs in person surprise. In the club gives you some security the girl will not rip you off. If the girl really likes you then the rate is secondary to her, many times I took girls out without an agreed price and they told me they will accept whatever present I give them. That way you are guaranteed good service and she will not bounce, pay for performance setup.Sure, SA / Tinder require some time and effort, but sex is pretty much guaranteed, if you discuss what you want upfront. Unless she doesn't show up or she looks completely different in person (this is why you need to request as many photos or videos as possible, or set up a FaceTime call). In the last 2-3 years I probably had only 3 dates that did not end up having sex. If one has only a few days to spend in SP, or doesn't travel there often, boates and clinicas make much more sense. But for someone traveling there frequently or staying for extended periods of time, SA provides much better value, and better service, especially if you enjoy BBFS. I think 1000 reals is more than enough for pernoite, 500-700 to a girl, and 200-300 for dinner / drinks. And if you are an early bird or have to work in the mornings, SA dates would probably fit your schedule better because you don't have to hunt until very late or wait for a bargain price at 4:30 am. My dates usually start around 7-8 pm, 2-3 hrs dinner, then back to my place, 2-3 hrs of fun and off to sleep. 1 pop in the morning and she is good to go. But I understand we all roll differently.
Steve 9696
10-07-22, 20:09
I would include the sight seeing as the price of admissions, like going to the strip club. SA / Tinder / IG is not a guarantee fuck and requires some ability to communicate in Porto and the rip off factor is much larger risk. Plus I hate the photo vs in person surprise. In the club gives you some security the girl will not rip you off. If the girl really likes you then the rate is secondary to her, many times I took girls out without an agreed price and they told me they will accept whatever present I give them. That way you are guaranteed good service and she will not bounce, pay for performance setup.Nothing says you can't mix the two. I am with MiamiBoy on the SA experience being more fulfilling. You can end up with a real semi long term thing that goes beyond just sex but is NSA. I've got a few girls that I've had 6 mo + "access" to once we establish that first date or two chemistry. That said I love the clubs too.
But you can mix and match! Had an SA date in Madrid at 6 PM (turned out to be meh) and hit Vive (like a small Scandallo) at 11. Best of both worlds. No need to choose.
I noticed there are a few Scandallo girls on SA.
Nothing says you can't mix the two. I am with MiamiBoy on the SA experience being more fulfilling. You can end up with a real semi long term thing that goes beyond just sex but is NSA. I've got a few girls that I've had 6 mo + "access" to once we establish that first date or two chemistry. That said I love the clubs too.
But you can mix and match! Had an SA date in Madrid at 6 PM (turned out to be meh) and hit Vive (like a small Scandallo) at 11. Best of both worlds. No need to choose.
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10-08-22, 02:25
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Planning on going to Sao Paulo towards the end of January for two weeks but the prices of flights from the UK are crazy at the minute.
Last time I went to Rio it was around 500 but cheapest to Sao Paulo or Rio during this time is 800 plus. I went to Rio in March last time so not sure how much difference that makes.
I know flight prices are up in general bit they aren't up that much to other countries.I am finding the same thing traveling from the USA I want to fly direct and it costs 1000+ in economy. I may pivot my trip since the flight is so expensive compared to this time last year.
SoberHans69
10-09-22, 17:06
I am finding the same thing traveling from the USA I want to fly direct and it costs 1000+ in economy. I may pivot my trip since the flight is so expensive compared to this time last year.Yeah its annoying. I can afford it but I hate paying 60% more for the same journey. Cost of doing business I guess.
Steve 9696
10-09-22, 22:04
I am finding the same thing traveling from the USA I want to fly direct and it costs 1000+ in economy. I may pivot my trip since the flight is so expensive compared to this time last year.If you want to go to SP but it seems expensive just book Rio separate. Book a round trip to Rio. And then book a round trip to SP separately. The SP Rio round trip will be super cheap because local. When you try to book it altogether it's more expensive.
If you want to go to SP but it seems expensive just book Rio separate. Book a round trip to Rio. And then book a round trip to SP separately. The SP Rio round trip will be super cheap because local. When you try to book it altogether it's more expensive.That makes sense. I am more frustrated about the price of an economy 9 hour flight. I usually get a fidgety middle isle person sitting next to me.
GiuseppeBonera
10-10-22, 00:36
I was planning on going to Brazil this year but prices (flights hotel) are just rediculous right now. It got me thinking is there anywhere in world with a club quite like scandallo?
For context I am relatively young 33 and have limited experience with mongering in Brazil Mexico Germany and Colombia. I Live in the us but I have given up on this country for mongering.
Within Brazil there are similar but not quite as good. Years ago I was at cafe photo with the same quality girls but pricier and fewer quantity. Bamboa has some good ones as well but so small don't think you could even fit All the girls let alone customers from scandallo on a given night. All other clubs I have been to in Sao Paulo only have a few scandallo quality girls if any.
In campinas is fazendinha with top girls but not all are hot and also a mixed bag depending on the day.
In porto alegre there was gruta azul and Carmens gruta azul a little higher end but nothing close to sacandalo. Have only spent one weekend with coworkers in rio only made it Centaurus which was ok. I heard and read good things about 4 x4 but from research I don't believe will match up.
In Bogota lido was very good but no where to be at ease with the girls for negotiating probably comparable to the old bamboa before it moved.
In Medellin luna lunera was probably the only other place with the consistent quality of girls as scandallo with less quantity but still decent amount of girls also had some issues girls who were stripping constantly asking for tip even if I was not watching them.
In munich villa romana also had quality girls similar to scandallo but only about 10 max on a given night and don't think you can't take the girls out.
In Mexico can't say I have seen any comparable venue. Maybe in Bangkok when I go next month I can have some context. Again I don't have the experience as some other members but please let me know of any location that I should check out in world.
GiuseppeBonera
10-10-22, 00:37
I was planning on going to Sao Paulo this year but prices (flight hotel) are just rediculous. Still I miss scandallo and the legendary nights I have had. It got me thinking is there anywhere in the world quite like scandallo?
Just for context I am 33 and limited mongering experience. Also being married for some of those mongering years slowed me down a bit. Still I was able to check out places through Brasil, Colombia Mexico and Germany (just Munich). And the following are compatible but just don't meet the bar set by scandallo in my opinion.
Sao Paulo.
Years ago was at café FOTO. Yes quality of girls were comparable but prices were not, nor was the quantity of girls. Also no rooms in the place had to go to hotel.
Bamboa has some comparable quality girls but new location so small don't think you can fit all the girls let alone customers on a given night at scandallo.
All other clubs I have been to (casarao, Bahamas etc.) only a handful of quality girls.
Campinas.
Only thing close to scandallo is fazendinha But in the middle of nowhere and quality and quantity varies depending on the day.
Porto alegre.
Gruta azul higher end girls with a lower price but again not enough girls. Tia Carmen also had some gems but the place a little trashy. Domino even more trashy.
Rio.
Have only spent one weekend in Rio for work and only made it to Centaurus. Have heard and read good things from 4 x4 but from research don't think this would match scandallo quality.
Bogota.
Lido similar to bamboas old location with some quality girls but too loud to negotiate and screen effectively.
Medellin.
Luna lunera is the only place I can say came close when looking at quality and quantity but still not a match for scandallo. Also the girls stripping are constantly asking for tips even if I was not watching.
Munich.
Vila romana had the quality standard but only 10 girls at any given time but all were hot. Also don't think you can take the girls out.
Mexico has yet give me a venue.
Maybe in Bangkok next month I can share some comparable places.
Again I don't have too much experience but let me know of any comparable places in the world.
TedFerguson
10-10-22, 01:38
Below is my best attempt to summarize 3 months in São Paulo. The main takeaway is that sugar dating sites yielded the best results although boates like Scandallo have certain uses as well. Communication, both in Portuguese and understanding the Brazilian culture, was the differentiating factor to a good experience.
I should start by saying that I prefer reasonably stable, non-monogamous relationships where I see the same girl a few times per week. 2+ such relationships make for a good time since girls can be busy with school, family, etc. Before Brazil, I thought I preferred girls under 25 but now I realize that while more attractive sexually, as an overall experience girls over 25 are more reliable, better conversationalists and better behaved overall.
I'll break down my experiences in terms of categories below.
Local Pros: These are girls who have never left Brazil. All those I've met want to leave Brazil and work in Western Europe or Dubai. They are typically younger, less intelligent, less brave and despite being hot, provide a mediocre experience. Most of them I met at Scandallo, and one I accidentally met via the sugar dating site MeuPatrocinio. They dream, but do not execute. However, they'll happily comply with what I wanted them to do (despite not doing it well).
Traveled Pros: Girls who have worked outside Brazil. Despite being older, these girls provided the best sexual experiences of the trip. Never before tried sexual positions and an insane amount of energy. I met a few via Seeking (who worked with an agency handling their Seeking accounts) and one at Scandallo. Most of them sadly don't have any hobbies beyond partying, which makes a long-term relationship impractical. *.
The one exception to this had a perfect body, a completely submissive attitude, and an unbelievable intuition about what I wanted her to do. Sadly, she very clearly had been working a lot because after kissing her I immediately started feeling pain in my mouth and throat. We found a way to work around this, with her getting me excited by sucking on my nipples and kissing my neck (awkward maybe, but she did it with aplomb). The other important takeaway from that experience is that once you have Brazilian ass, most asses look bland by comparison from the back.
Clinica Pros: Amazing skills, poor conversation, sadly riddled with disease. I got a sore throat after seeing one and one amazing night doesn't make up for a few days of being out of commission.
Out Of Town Girls: These girls either came to work at Scandallo or on sugar dating sites for a week or so, but lived in some smaller city in Brazil. These were the worst experiences. Despite being submissive, these girls had poor skills and weren't too bright. They saw their time in the city as an opportunity to eat at fancy restaurants (serving shitty food) and me as their means to do so. I'm not a fan of micromanaging my partners or telling them no all the time, hence instant disqualification for future girls in this category.
"New" Sugar Babies: These were girls mostly met on MeuPatrocinio (which is far more populated than Seeking), who were new to Sao Paulo and sugar dating. These experiences, like the traveled pros, were among the best. Unlike the out of town girls, these girls were ambitious. They left their lives behind to get an education or a career in the big city. They were motivated, and although not as good as the traveled pros, they exceeded the local pros in bedroom skills.
One of my favorites showed me the meaning of the term "power bottom" as I stood there while her ass did all the work while I was on top of her prone, face-down body. The other came out of the bathroom completely naked and told me she likes to cum at least once a day, and if she doesn't have a man around uses her dildo. Refreshingly direct.
I fell for some of these girls and provided them with gifts in excess of a casual relationship. This was consistently an error. Instead of reciprocating, they felt more financially comfortable to spend more time with their friends.
"Experienced" Sugar Babies: These girls had prior sugar daddies, either locally or outside Brazil. Some of these girls had unreasonable expectations, like being lavished with gifts, which obviously didn't work out. Other were more casual, and understood that casual relationships don't imply gifts as do more involved relationships. I suspect the girls in this pool were here because of some personality defect, because the new sugar babies were overall much more impressive.
"Models": While a number of the other girls did some small-time modeling, the more modeling a girl did, the more it seems to inflate her ego. Having her own clothing brand is a bright orange flag. Perhaps even worse, the difference between the girl in real life and her pictures was often staggering. Photo editing hides poor skin complexion, excess fat, old age, and a frankly weird-looking face when talking. Combine this with excessive confidence and a desire to be rewarded accordingly, and these just did not work out.
Conclusions: Despite some incredible experiences with traveled pros, the risks for getting sick aren't worth it for me. The late nights at Scandallo eventually wear down your body. And anyways, a girl who has ambitions for a business or an education remains interesting longer than one who's primarily interested in drinking and traveling (as most of the pros seem to).
What ultimately impressed me most is the Brazilian female temperament. They are the least crazy of all women I've met so far. Combine that with a first-class ass, an openness to enhancing their chests, dedication to regular gym going and I might just take one of these girls back to the US with me.
Looking forward to coming back for another 3 months soon.
Conclusions: Despite some incredible experiences with traveled pros, the risks for getting sick aren't worth it for me. The late nights at Scandallo eventually wear down your body.My first trip to Brazil (and my shortest ever), was just 10 days. In that time, I lost one day of mongering due to illness after having had some sushi. I thanked God that it only lasted a day, and I bounced back quickly (and I have never eaten sushi in Brazil ever again LOL). But upon my return home, I was so sick that I literally had to take a full week off of work just to recover. I went buck wild in Rio during those 10 fateful days hahaha! A key source of me not feeling well had to do with having a sore throat. That came from all of the DFKing I had done with all of them there tutes! As the more seasoned Brazil mongers advised me, what I needed to do was gargle with Listerine regularly. I have done that religiously on every trip to Brazil since (plus made sure I got a sufficient amount of sleep) and have not gotten sick again on any mongering trip to anyplace. I gargle with the Listerine before I head out and as soon as I get back to my room (at least twice a day), and it's works like a dream! Helps to beat back all those germs from kissing on the tutes and eating that ass LOLOLOL!
Again I don't have too much experience but let me know of any comparable places in the world.I hate to break it to you, but I've been around the world and haven't discovered any place on par with Scandallo in Sampa. As I recently noted in another thread, Scandallo is pretty incomparable! That said, there are of course plenty of other venues worth experiencing that can bring you that kind of "live" excitement that Steve has spoken about in some of his posts. You mentioned many already. I would add Vive Madrid in Spain's capital and the top FKK clubs throughout Germany and Switzerland (see the relevant threads). Dubai also has lots and lots of clubs with girls from all over the world. I really like the Ruskies and found some drop dead gorgeous ones at the time in places like Premiere and Cavalli. So, there's some more suggestions. But I'm afraid you won't find another Scandallo at this time. And if you do please let us know! And I will do the same hehehe!
Below is my best attempt to summarize 3 months in So Paulo. ....Thanks for the report and the information about MeuPatrocinio. We were browsing MeuPatrocinio after reading your previous post but it felt the site is not real. So it is safe to pay for the access? Sorry if it is a dumb question.
I was planning on going to Sao Paulo this year but prices (flight hotel) are just rediculous. Still I miss scandallo and the legendary nights I have had. It got me thinking is there anywhere in the world quite like scandallo?
Just for context I am 33 and limited mongering experience. Also being married for some of those mongering years slowed me down a bit. Still I was able to check out places through Brasil, Colombia Mexico and Germany (just Munich). And the following are compatible but just don't meet the bar set by scandallo in my opinion.
Sao Paulo.
Years ago was at caf FOTO. Yes quality of girls were comparable but prices were not, nor was the quantity of girls. Also no rooms in the place had to go to hotel.
Bamboa has some comparable quality girls but new location so small don't think you can fit all the girls let alone customers on a given night at scandallo.
All other clubs I have been to (casarao, Bahamas etc.) only a handful of quality girls.
Campinas.
Only thing close to scandallo is fazendinha But in the middle of nowhere and quality and quantity varies depending on the day.
Porto alegre.
Gruta azul higher end girls with a lower price but again not enough girls. Tia Carmen also had some gems but the place a little trashy. Domino even more trashy.
Rio.
Have only spent one weekend in Rio for work and only made it to Centaurus. Have heard and read good things from 4 x4 but from research don't think this would match scandallo quality.
Bogota.
Lido similar to bamboas old location with some quality girls but too loud to negotiate and screen effectively.
Medellin.
Luna lunera is the only place I can say came close when looking at quality and quantity but still not a match for scandallo. Also the girls stripping are constantly asking for tips even if I was not watching.
Munich.
Vila romana had the quality standard but only 10 girls at any given time but all were hot. Also don't think you can take the girls out.
Mexico has yet give me a venue.
Maybe in Bangkok next month I can share some comparable places.
Again I don't have too much experience but let me know of any comparable places in the world.Hong Kong in Tijuana comes close yet so far to Scandalo. Its a distance second maybe. Nothing like Scandalo, La Isla circa 2016 had a lineup that rivaled any brothel but those days are long gone.
Hello everyone,
I appreciate all for contributing to this thread, I am planning to visit SP for the first time in the beginning of the December, I am still deciding between Medellin and SP (may be both with 3 days each). This will be my first south American trip and I am thinking of visiting Scandallo and try Seeking. Can someone provide quality of girls in seeking and would it be better to target places like Scandallo for just 3 days?
Also would like to know amount of quality girls in SP vs MDE, I know MDE is budget friendly when compared to SP, but would like have really good quality as this is the first time I am mongering in years.
Thanks all.
Nice comparisons around the world! No other place like Scandallo in terms of quantity and quality. There is one sauna in Hong Kong that had a huge lineup but no GFE.
Cafe foto will start to get more girls from Scandallo because it only cost them 50 R per night to go in and out whereas Scandallo now cost them 300 R if they don't go everyday. However foto is small also.
I was planning on going to Sao Paulo this year but prices (flight hotel) are just rediculous. Still I miss scandallo and the legendary nights I have had. It got me thinking is there anywhere in the world quite like scandallo?
Just for context I am 33 and limited mongering experience. Also being married for some of those mongering years slowed me down a bit. Still I was able to check out places through Brasil, Colombia Mexico and Germany (just Munich). And the following are compatible but just don't meet the bar set by scandallo in my opinion.
Sao Paulo.
Years ago was at caf FOTO. Yes quality of girls were comparable but prices were not, nor was the quantity of girls. Also no rooms in the place had to go to hotel..
Hey Ted, enjoyed reading your post, you do not have alot of post but you certainly nailed it with this report!
I've found that the more hot they are the more messed they are in the head. Real MILFs are better at sex then non milfs I found but they have a limit to how long they will fuck. Non milfs have more energy and can do it multiple times a day. Travel girls are open to negotiate shopping / gifts in lieu of money but they limit how many times they fuck. The sweet spot are ones that are from the interior who is a home body and wants to be near family and do not like to work as pros are not jaded and they are GFE. And if they are studying to be in healthcare they are even better, brains, looks, and hygiene so they don't pass on STDs. The cheaper the place the higher the risk is a good correlation. Bomboa and Foto use to require testing every 2 months but at Scandallo they do not because the amount of girls is too difficult to manage. Testing together is the best method, some labs do same day results in SP.
Below is my best attempt to summarize 3 months in So Paulo. The main takeaway is that sugar dating sites yielded the best results although boates like Scandallo have certain uses as well. Communication, both in Portuguese and understanding the Brazilian culture, was the differentiating factor to a good experience.
I should start by saying that I prefer reasonably stable, non-monogamous relationships where I see the same girl a few times per week. 2+ such relationships make for a good time since girls can be busy with school, family, etc. Before Brazil, I thought I preferred girls under 25 but now I realize that while more attractive sexually, as an overall experience girls over 25 are more reliable, better conversationalists and better behaved overall.
I'll break down my experiences in terms of categories below.
Local Pros: These are girls who have never left Brazil. All those I've met want to leave Brazil and work in Western Europe or Dubai. They are typically younger, less intelligent, less brave and despite being hot, provide a mediocre experience. Most of them I met at Scandallo, and one I accidentally met via the sugar dating site MeuPatrocinio. They dream, but do not execute. However, they'll happily comply with what I wanted them to do (despite not doing it well)..
Steve 9696
10-10-22, 20:33
I was planning on going to Sao Paulo this year but prices (flight hotel) are just rediculous. Still I miss scandallo and the legendary nights I have had. It got me thinking is there anywhere in the world quite like scandallo?
Just for context I am 33 and limited mongering experience. Also being married for some of those mongering years slowed me down a bit. Still I was able to check out places through Brasil, Colombia Mexico and Germany (just Munich). And the following are compatible but just don't meet the bar set by scandallo in my opinion.
Sao Paulo.
Years ago was at caf FOTO. Yes quality of girls were comparable but prices were not, nor was the quantity of girls. Also no rooms in the place had to go to hotel.
Bamboa has some comparable quality girls but new location so small don't think you can fit all the girls let alone customers on a given night at scandallo.
All other clubs I have been to (casarao, Bahamas etc.) only a handful of quality girls.
Campinas.
Only thing close to scandallo is fazendinha But in the middle of nowhere and quality and quantity varies depending on the day.
Porto alegre.
Gruta azul higher end girls with a lower price but again not enough girls. Tia Carmen also had some gems but the place a little trashy. Domino even more trashy.
Rio.
Have only spent one weekend in Rio for work and only made it to Centaurus. Have heard and read good things from 4 x4 but from research don't think this would match scandallo quality.
Bogota.
Lido similar to bamboas old location with some quality girls but too loud to negotiate and screen effectively.
Medellin.
Luna lunera is the only place I can say came close when looking at quality and quantity but still not a match for scandallo. Also the girls stripping are constantly asking for tips even if I was not watching.
Munich.
Vila romana had the quality standard but only 10 girls at any given time but all were hot. Also don't think you can take the girls out.
Mexico has yet give me a venue.
Maybe in Bangkok next month I can share some comparable places.
Again I don't have too much experience but let me know of any comparable places in the world.Yes Scandalo is also my favorite but as much for the club as the girls. Looking worldwide if you went to Germany and only Munich that is a shame. It has the worst FKK scene in Germany. Go anywhere but Munich. LOL. In Frankfurt Sharks is widely considered best. Or Globe in Zurich. But I went to a small club north of thesseldorf called Penelope and had two great girls. Def a much smaller scene tho.
Would recommend Vive in Madrid as quite Scandalo like tho on a smaller scale. Took three girls (Colombiana, Brasileira, Dominican) and all three were great. See my report in Madrid thread. Going to try the Costa del Sol soon where Estark 92 and Scandallo (yes) both have good reps. I'll report back in a few weeks.
Hello everyone,
I appreciate all for contributing to this thread, I am planning to visit SP for the first time in the beginning of the December, I am still deciding between Medellin and SP (may be both with 3 days each). This will be my first south American trip and I am thinking of visiting Scandallo and try Seeking. Can someone provide quality of girls in seeking and would it be better to target places like Scandallo for just 3 days?
Also would like to know amount of quality girls in SP vs MDE, I know MDE is budget friendly when compared to SP, but would like have really good quality as this is the first time I am mongering in years.
Thanks all.SP will be more or less a sure thing if you only have 6 days. Medellin likely will be hit and miss if you want quality with only 6 days, 3 days will be difficult. It has large quantity, but it takes work unless someone is willing to share high quality contacts with you.
You need yellow fever vaccine if you are flying from Brazil to Colombia, so be prepared
Hi, last week (3-Oct.) I purchased a flight from Manaos. Sao Paulo (2700 Km flight) for US $120. As other users mention, domestic flights are at good price if you purchase them one or two months ahead.
I am finding the same thing traveling from the USA I want to fly direct and it costs 1000+ in economy. I may pivot my trip since the flight is so expensive compared to this time last year.
SP will be more or less a sure thing if you only have 6 days. Medellin likely will be hit and miss if you want quality with only 6 days, 3 days will be difficult. It has large quantity, but it takes work unless someone is willing to share high quality contacts with you.
You need yellow fever vaccine if you are flying from Brazil to Colombia, so be preparedNonce, I will try and find the info myself, but I will be flying SP to Medellin VIA Panama next year. From your knowledge, still required?
Nonce, I will try and find the info myself, but I will be flying SP to Medellin VIA Panama next year. From your knowledge, still required?I think if the two segments are on the same ticket, then the airline probably will ask for it.
DreamCarnarvon
10-13-22, 03:30
I am finding the same thing traveling from the USA I want to fly direct and it costs 1000+ in economy. I may pivot my trip since the flight is so expensive compared to this time last year.I remember ticket prices from SFO tp Rio and SP to be in the $800 - $1000 range pre pandemic. I was looking at prices to SP on my CC portal. The cheapest option was Delta $850 but the layover was crazy like 20 hrs. AA had several pricing options. The cheapest $950 was basic economy and did not include any check-in baggage. If you want that the price was $1000. I had a terrible experience with AA years ago flying back to the US. Our plane had a mechanical problem and the flight was cancelled. But there was no announcement made whatsoever. Eventually I sensed something was not right and had to figure everything out myself. COPA was also $1000 but they use the 767 Max 9's and I don't feel comfortable flying in them.
UniversalX
10-14-22, 00:06
...... COPA was also $1000 but they use the 767 Max 9's and I don't feel comfortable flying in them.What is wrong with the 767 Max 9's that you are uncomfortable flying in them?
Most know there are issues with the Boeing 737 Max https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_Boeing_737.
-aircraft t:737
You can use this command in Advanced Controls Itineraries (right side) on ITA Matrix search to avoid flying on 737 equipment. Try United.
-aircraft t:737
You can use this command in Advanced Controls Itineraries (right side) on ITA Matrix search to avoid flying on 737 equipment. Try United.Of the major USA airlines Southwest and American had the most 737 Max aircraft by far. United only had a few, and Delta none as far as I know.
Hi, last week (3-Oct.) I purchased a flight from Manaos. Sao Paulo (2700 Km flight) for US $120. As other users mention, domestic flights are at good price if you purchase them one or two months ahead.I've been the lucky recipient of a few almost unbelievable fares from booking well in advance. Belem to Manaus for 27 usd comes to mind and might be my best deal so far. I'm sure there are some bm'ers that have flown in between SP and Rio for under 20 usd. Some of the airfares you find are almost too good to be true but if you purchase your tickets closer to the departure date, tickets prices get $$$ quick!
DreamCarnarvon
10-14-22, 02:14
What is wrong with the 767 Max 9's that you are uncomfortable flying in them?I meant to say the 737 Max 9's. I used to prefer to fly on Boeing planes. But after the 2 accidents involving the Max, I have lost trust in them. May be a while before I feel comfortable flying in the 737 Maxs.
For FF,
United co shares flights with Azul.
Delta cross matches benefits with Latam.
Gol and Avianca are merging.
Playboy2021
10-15-22, 14:40
"New" Sugar Babies: These were girls mostly met on MeuPatrocinio (which is far more populated than Seeking), who were new to Sao Paulo and sugar dating. These experiences, like the traveled pros, were among the best. Unlike the out of town girls, these girls were ambitious. They left their lives behind to get an education or a career in the big city. They were motivated, and although not as good as the traveled pros, they exceeded the local pros in bedroom skills.Is MeuPatrocinio a real website? I created an account and can search but the page to buy a subscription to message is blank.
Here's the review site forumcutuca.com for Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, etc. The owner of these clinicas moved all the info there if you want to read it.
Creating account on it is a ***** thou, because the forum banned gmail, hotmail, yahoo. Basically all the free emails account that I know of, but you can read it without having to sign up.Thanks for this info, these clincas are my bread and butter.
Here's the review site forumcutuca.com for Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, etc. The owner of these clinicas moved all the info there if you want to read it.
Creating account on it is a ***** thou, because the forum banned gmail, hotmail, yahoo. Basically all the free emails account that I know of, but you can read it without having to sign up.Thanks for this info, these clinicas are my bread and butter.
Below is my best attempt to summarize 3 months in So Paulo. The main takeaway is that sugar dating sites yielded the best results although boates like Scandallo have certain uses as well. Communication, both in Portuguese and understanding the Brazilian culture, was the differentiating factor to a good experience.
I should start by saying that I prefer reasonably stable, non-monogamous relationships where I see the same girl a few times per week. 2+ such relationships make for a good time since girls can be busy with school, family, etc. Before Brazil, I thought I preferred girls under 25 but now I realize that while more attractive sexually, as an overall experience girls over 25 are more reliable, better conversationalists and better behaved overall.
Looking forward to coming back for another 3 months soon.A very enjoyable read that I believe most mongers can relate to. At least I have experienced everything on your list, except the disease.
The village girl (small town) description got me a chuckle, because I had an exact experience with an out of towner on my last trip in July. Lady insisted on going to a fancy restaurant that she just googled, ordered an expensive (but terrible. Heavy and greasy) dish that she obviously never had before. It was a pain watching her struggle to choke it down. Then back to the room and she was too bloated and drowsy to fuck, so ended up taking a 3 hour nap. By the time she woke up, she needed to rush and take the last train to her home town. To be fair, she contacted me the following day asking if she could come and compensate me for the previous day. Said she would stay for unlimited time for her 1 hour rate. I was skeptical but she happily followed through, good session overall, but I would be hesitant to repeat.
DonMedellin
10-16-22, 14:45
After doing tons of research, I've decided to stay in a AirBnb in near Moema mall, then walk to the daytime clinicas. The ones I have in mind are Prime, Miruna, Abobora, Indy and Enjoy Spa. What are the prices at each place and how are the talent quality these days? Also if anyone wants to meet up please let me know. I will be in SP this week. Thanks gents!
John Corey
10-18-22, 12:02
Is MeuPatrocinio a real website? I created an account and can search but the page to buy a subscription to message is blank.I had the same issue, after contacting admin they responded that they are not allowed to work with US based customers due to local laws.
Playboy2021
10-18-22, 15:10
I had the same issue, after contacting admin they responded that they are not allowed to work with US based customers due to local laws.How would they know if I am US based?
After doing tons of research, I've decided to stay in a AirBnb in near Moema mall, then walk to the daytime clinicas. The ones I have in mind are Prime, Miruna, Abobora, Indy and Enjoy Spa. What are the prices at each place and how are the talent quality these days? Also if anyone wants to meet up please let me know. I will be in SP this week. Thanks gents!Prime - 1 HR - 250 brl, 30 min - 190 brl.
I'm down to meetup. DM me your WhatsApp, you inbox was full when I tried.
I had the same issue, after contacting admin they responded that they are not allowed to work with US based customers due to local laws.Tried VPN?
How much these girls charge usually per night?
I hate when they need to bounce early in morning for school or job.
FlowState985
10-18-22, 20:26
After doing tons of research, I've decided to stay in a AirBnb in near Moema mall, then walk to the daytime clinicas. The ones I have in mind are Prime, Miruna, Abobora, Indy and Enjoy Spa. What are the prices at each place and how are the talent quality these days? Also if anyone wants to meet up please let me know. I will be in SP this week. Thanks gents!Prime, Miruna, and Enjoy Spa (same owner) is about r180/ r190 for half and then about r250 for 1 HR. Indy or Moah Spa (same owner) is a little less than those three. Abbobora is r330 (130 for room, 200 for girl) for 1 HR only. Also Carinas is close by and it's r350/ HR.
27 Dollars is simply excellent. Brazil is so big, that you can domestic fly to get closer to Colombia, Venezuela, Bolivia, and even Colombia.
A friend of mine flew from Rio to closer Venezuela (don't remember the name of the city right now) but the border customs was closed for unsaid reasons and he had to cancel his entrance to Venezuela that way. So, good to make a research before.
I've been the lucky recipient of a few almost unbelievable fares from booking well in advance. Belem to Manaus for 27 usd comes to mind and might be my best deal so far. I'm sure there are some bm'ers that have flown in between SP and Rio for under 20 usd. Some of the airfares you find are almost too good to be true but if you purchase your tickets closer to the departure date, tickets prices get $$$ quick!
I went to Bomboa a few hours before my flight, so I went for a quick taste, and very rapidly I saw this slim blonde in the bar, who was talking to a local. So I went to the bar and asked a beer and stood right next to her, just to play my chance, then she turned to me and smiled, so I started talking to her. In less than two minutes she already gave me her rate, and I agreed 600 BRL.
When she went to the bathroom I stayed in the bar so, the guy and me were only 4 feet away. The guy was mad at me, he turned and said something I could not hear, but wasn't kind at all. The guy was a robust, boxing type man, maybe a police off duty. That's when I realized that I fucked his negotiation. If the guy would have challenged me in a more manly manner, I would have left the girl, no doubt.
Once in the room, the cute slim blonde told me he was offering her 350 and he rised to 400 BRL after half an hour of conversation. She also said that a couple of times she was paid less than agreed with one of those long lasting negotiators. So she dropped him.
Nothing happened with the guy and me, fortunately, LOL.
Nonce, I will try and find the info myself, but I will be flying SP to Medellin VIA Panama next year. From your knowledge, still required?Yes still required make sure its the international yellow fever papers. Easily acquired any clinic in SP.
FlowState985
10-20-22, 08:57
Nonce, I will try and find the info myself, but I will be flying SP to Medellin VIA Panama next year. From your knowledge, still required?As far as I know, still required yellow fever vax. Check this link at 3:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBYdhvA75M.
He mentioned Panama as in one of the country still required. I also checked Avianca website, and it says it. Copa airline info is a bit vague.
https://www.avianca.com/otr/en/before-your-trip/travel-documentation/vaccines/
https://www.copaair.com/en/web/co/international-vaccination-yellow-fever
If that was 1+ hour of negotiating and you popped out of nowhere and stold his girl in 2 seconds, I think something would have happened to you. LOL.
I went to Bomboa a few hours before my flight, so I went for a quick taste, and very rapidly I saw this slim blonde in the bar, who was talking to a local. So I went to the bar and asked a beer and stood right next to her, just to play my chance, then she turned to me and smiled, so I started talking to her. In less than two minutes she already gave me her rate, and I agreed 600 BRL.
When she went to the bathroom I stayed in the bar so, the guy and me were only 4 feet away. The guy was mad at me, he turned and said something I could not hear, but wasn't kind at all. The guy was a robust, boxing type man, maybe a police off duty. That's when I realized that I fucked his negotiation. If the guy would have challenged me in a more manly manner, I would have left the girl, no doubt.
Once in the room, the cute slim blonde told me he was offering her 350 and he rised to 400 BRL after half an hour of conversation. She also said that a couple of times she was paid less than agreed with one of those long lasting negotiators. So she dropped him.
Nothing happened with the guy and me, fortunately, LOL.
If that was 1+ hour of negotiating and you popped out of nowhere and stold his girl in 2 seconds, I think something would have happened to you. LOL.There's kind of an unwritten rule that you shouldn't try to take a girl out from under another guy. I think in my travels this has generally been respected by both the men and women.
When a girl senses a deal will not be consummated, she will disengage and pursue other men. That's her side of the equation.
I once struck a deal with a Brazilian girl and we were having drinks. A guy walked in and waved to her. She knew him and politely asked if I would let her out of her verbal agreement to go home with me. I was fine with it. There were plenty of hot women there.
I was horny, not crazy! Jajajaja.
If that was 1+ hour of negotiating and you popped out of nowhere and stold his girl in 2 seconds, I think something would have happened to you. LOL.
DonMedellin
10-20-22, 19:39
Prime, Miruna, and Enjoy Spa (same owner) is about r180/ r190 for half and then about r250 for 1 HR. Indy or Moah Spa (same owner) is a little less than those three. Abbobora is r330 (130 for room, 200 for girl) for 1 HR only. Also Carinas is close by and it's r350/ HR.Wish I saw this earlier. Thanks for your response.
Currently in São Paulo and looking to go out with some friends to these bar. Have been to both Cafe Photo and Scandalo and like both. We plan on going to two and the other options are Bahamas and Bamboa. Be good to get some on if either Bamboa or Bahamas are worth trying over the other two? Would be fantastic to get some advice because it could really ruin the night if we choose one that is not good. Which one has the best high end girls?
Thanks in advance.
Looks like if I have 24 hours in Sao Paulo, Scandello's is a must?
I broke the rule that night. The blonde was the only 8 in the place. The rest were 6's and I was in a rush.
Believe me, other nights where I had more time to look around, I waited very patient for the hot girls to get free.
I was in a regular boate in SP and there were hot civilian girls, was talking to a hot one and two younger guys simply started talking with her, and took her in minutes.
Younger guys don't respect this rule of thumb.
It happens in the jungle.
There's kind of an unwritten rule that you shouldn't try to take a girl out from under another guy. I think in my travels this has generally been respected by both the men and women.
Vagabundo1
10-22-22, 04:17
Miruna is a must!
Looks like if I have 24 hours in Sao Paulo, Scandello's is a must?
Axel Heyst
10-22-22, 22:06
Currently in So Paulo and looking to go out with some friends to these bar. Have been to both Cafe Photo and Scandalo and like both. We plan on going to two and the other options are Bahamas and Bamboa. Be good to get some on if either Bamboa or Bahamas are worth trying over the other two? Would be fantastic to get some advice because it could really ruin the night if we choose one that is not good. Which one has the best high end girls?
Thanks in advance.The place with the most high-quality girls to choose from is (wait for it, drum roll) Scandallo. If money is not a problem Scandallo should be your 1st choice. The numbers seem to be down from when I was there in April / May. At 11 pm Friday 2 weeks ago they had a good crowd with maybe 100 girls on hand, at least 20 were tier 1 lookers.
Bomboa is like a friendly neighborhood boate. It is much smaller than Scandallo and a step down although it is still very nice and not cheap. I always have a good time when I go there like last night for example. At 10 pm Friday night the scene was good with maybe 30 girls or more, 3 to 5 were tier 1 lookers. I found a friendly, slender brunette to show me a real good time.
Bahamas: I went there for the 1st time mid-week. Late Wednesday afternoon a Scandallo girl I know texted me and asked what I was doing tonight. There was a big concert at Scandallo that night and I was thinking of going except that I knew it would be mobbed. She was planning to go to Bahamas rather than pay to get into Scandallo. I like this girl and I rate her a tier 1 Scandallo looker, so her plan sounded like a good alternative and I met her at Bahamas. At 9 pm Wednesday night I saw maybe 15 to 20 scantily clad girls including mine, a few of the girls were very sexy, like yeah, I would go upstairs with you. KKK. My girl and I stayed long enough to have a drink and to molest each other out on the veranda. So, I was impressed with the place and I want to go back and explore more on my own.
Casuara: this place is definitely a step down in class from the boates above, but it can be a real circus circus on a Friday night as in packed wall to wall with tons of girls (and yes, lots of SP dicks too), no class pretenses at this club, and there is a lot of variety on the menu. Just come in, look around, and get what you want. I like it. KKK. But, I suggest that you and your friends start out the evening somewhere else and wind up at Casuara later on if you are still going strong.
Looks like if I have 24 hours in Sao Paulo, Scandello's is a must?Going to depend on how much you want to spend and what day of the week you go. Wednesdays and Thursday are the best. If you get in before 7, I think it is either 250/300 R which can be used for food and drinks. Room in Scandello will cost 250/300 and of course the cost of the girl. If you have the funds and have never been, then I would recommend it. If you don't have the funds or aren't keen on spending for the girls, then I definitely wouldn't recommend.
Do write up a report no matter what you decide.
The place with the most high-quality girls to choose from is (wait for it, drum roll) Scandallo. If money is not a problem Scandallo should be your 1st choice. The numbers seem to be down from when I was there in April / May. At 11 pm Friday 2 weeks ago they had a good crowd with maybe 100 girls on hand, at least 20 were tier 1 lookers.
Bomboa is like a friendly neighborhood boate. It is much smaller than Scandallo and a step down although it is still very nice and not cheap. I always have a good time when I go there like last night for example. At 10 pm Friday night the scene was good with maybe 30 girls or more, 3 to 5 were tier 1 lookers. I found a friendly, slender brunette to show me a real good time.
Bahamas: I went there for the 1st time mid-week. Late Wednesday afternoon a Scandallo girl I know texted me and asked what I was doing tonight. There was a big concert at Scandallo that night and I was thinking of going except that I knew it would be mobbed. She was planning to go to Bahamas rather than pay to get into Scandallo. I like this girl and I rate her a tier 1 Scandallo looker, so her plan sounded like a good alternative and I met her at Bahamas. At 9 pm Wednesday night I saw maybe 15 to 20 scantily clad girls including mine, a few of the girls were very sexy, like yeah, I would go upstairs with you. KKK. My girl and I stayed long enough to have a drink and to molest each other out on the veranda. So, I was impressed with the place and I want to go back and explore more on my own.
Casuara: this place is definitely a step down in class from the boates above, but it can be a real circus circus on a Friday night as in packed wall to wall with tons of girls (and yes, lots of SP dicks too), no class pretenses at this club, and there is a lot of variety on the menu. Just come in, look around, and get what you want. I like it. KKK. But, I suggest that you and your friends start out the evening somewhere else and wind up at Casuara later on if you are still going strong.Circus is right, Lol, but fun.
It's called Casarao actually.
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Bahamas: I went there for the 1st time mid-week. Late Wednesday afternoon a Scandallo girl I know texted me and asked what I was doing tonight. There was a big concert at Scandallo that night and I was thinking of going except that I knew it would be mobbed. She was planning to go to Bahamas rather than pay to get into Scandallo. I like this girl and I rate her a tier 1 Scandallo looker, so her plan sounded like a good alternative and I met her at Bahamas. At 9 pm Wednesday night I saw maybe 15 to 20 scantily clad girls including mine, a few of the girls were very sexy, like yeah, I would go upstairs with you. KKK. My girl and I stayed long enough to have a drink and to molest each other out on the veranda. So, I was impressed with the place and I want to go back and explore more on my own.
...Yes, what set Bahamas apart from the other boates when I was in SP was some girls being scantily clad while others were not. Not like Casarao where all girls were in classical sexy disco outfit or Scandallo where all girls were in evening dress. At Bahamas some girls were in evening dress, others half naked. Piquant.
I broke the rule that night. The blonde was the only 8 in the place. The rest were 6's and I was in a rush.
Believe me, other nights where I had more time to look around, I waited very patient for the hot girls to get free.
I was in a regular boate in SP and there were hot civilian girls, was talking to a hot one and two younger guys simply started talking with her, and took her in minutes.
Younger guys don't respect this rule of thumb.
It happens in the jungle.Your situation seemed to be happenstance. She was losing interest in the other guy's pitch and you showed up. Of course, he didn't see it that way.
We all know when we are negotiating, we can assess the numbers and determine how likely we will consummate a deal. Numbers like is she an 7, 8 or 9. How many men to women in the bar. How early or late is it.
Jungle competition is more obvious in the crowded bars.
The place with the most high-quality girls to choose from is (wait for it, drum roll) Scandallo. If money is not a problem Scandallo should be your 1st choice. The numbers seem to be down from when I was there in April / May. At 11 pm Friday 2 weeks ago they had a good crowd with maybe 100 girls on hand, at least 20 were tier 1 lookers.
Bomboa is like a friendly neighborhood boate. It is much smaller than Scandallo and a step down although it is still very nice and not cheap. I always have a good time when I go there like last night for example. At 10 pm Friday night the scene was good with maybe 30 girls or more, 3 to 5 were tier 1 lookers. I found a friendly, slender brunette to show me a real good time.
Bahamas: I went there for the 1st time mid-week. Late Wednesday afternoon a Scandallo girl I know texted me and asked what I was doing tonight. There was a big concert at Scandallo that night and I was thinking of going except that I knew it would be mobbed. She was planning to go to Bahamas rather than pay to get into Scandallo. I like this girl and I rate her a tier 1 Scandallo looker, so her plan sounded like a good alternative and I met her at Bahamas. At 9 pm Wednesday night I saw maybe 15 to 20 scantily clad girls including mine, a few of the girls were very sexy, like yeah, I would go upstairs with you. KKK. My girl and I stayed long enough to have a drink and to molest each other out on the veranda. So, I was impressed with the place and I want to go back and explore more on my own.
Casuara: this place is definitely a step down in class from the boates above, but it can be a real circus circus on a Friday night as in packed wall to wall with tons of girls (and yes, lots of SP dicks too), no class pretenses at this club, and there is a lot of variety on the menu. Just come in, look around, and get what you want. I like it. KKK. But, I suggest that you and your friends start out the evening somewhere else and wind up at Casuara later on if you are still going strong.I went to Scandallo 3 x but I never took one home although I got many offers from girls to drive me in their cars to my hotel. How much is the bar fine?
...How much is the bar fine?About 250.
Axel Heyst
10-23-22, 19:39
Circus is right, Lol, but fun.
It's called Casarao actually.Yes, another example of my Portuguese dyslexia. In verbal communication I am having trouble with ao's, rr's, and j's. A girl can be saying something to me, and I have no idea what she is saying. Out comes google translate and I easily understand the transcribed Portuguese words on the screen. It is the fucking accent that is messing around with me.
Anyway, I went to Casarao last night (Saturday night), but I arrived a little too early around 2300. It was definitely not a circus, not yet. I knew things would pick up in 60 to 90 minutes if I could just hold out, but I am not a patient guy. As it so happened, however, a tall, slender, attractive mixed-race girl sat down next to me, we started up a conversation, and the rest was history more or less. KKK. She was dressed really nice, so I decided to take her back to my hotel. We drank a little Tequila and got naked. The highlight of the night was when she moved into cowgirl and opened up another condom pack. I said, "what is that for?" and she just said, "relax darling" and then she leaned back, reached behind, and tenderly inserted a finger up my ass as we continued to shag.
So, it is good to be in SP! Tonight (Sunday night) my favorite Scandallo girl is coming over. I have been seeing a lot of her on this trip (2 or 3 times a week) because I really like her. I guess she has become my Scandallo "Girl Friend". KKK. Uh-oh.
Have you guys had an excelent experience with Soa Paulo incall girls? I fell on a bait and switch.
Long time ago I didn't ask for an incall girl, more less 10 years, so I decided to try one website that's mentioned here on ISG. I looked for a girl that seemed had little photoshop. The girl that finaly arrived was simply a different girl, but she was acceptable, a 6 that used to be a 7, maybe in her late twenties, so I let her stay and didn't start a useless confrontation.
The sensation before her arrival was something I had forgoten. Six minutes rush of adrenaline, my heart started to beat faster.
I was relaxed with the shoes off sitting on the bed watching the news, they called me from reception anauncing my "guest", so I let my door half open. It took her at least six long minutes to get to 8th floor. I heard the bell of the elevator one time before "my guest". After the second bell it was very exciting to hear her heels walking slowly from the elevator to my room, the metalic sound of her bracelets when she nocked the door. I told her to come in, then she gently closed the door, the girl finally passing the alley formed by the bathroom and the closet, her sunglasses in her hand, tight jeans, blouse and brown leather jacket sitting in the corner of the bed, her handbag that matched her shoes. Definetely a cigarette smoker, but I smoke too, so no worries.
The true sensation of facing the unknown, but not so sure if next time will be an acceptable switch. Only a couple of years older and I would have returned the merchandise, with the cost of her taxi at least, the hotel "additional guest", a senseless discusion for sure, and the waste of an entire afternoon.
The overall experince was positive for the sensations I had forgotten. I only make my picks face to face from clubs.
Cheeky Darky
10-24-22, 00:07
Right team, I had a whirlwind tour in SP, two days / 2 nights this past weekend. As a newbie to SP I followed a number of recommendations in this forum to get a feel for the place.
Clinica. Lotus Lounge.
Asked to see the line up via Whatsapp (send them a message 'TEAMS' to their number and you get back a link with glamour shots of the ladies. Sans faces in most cases. The girl I wanted was unavailable, however I asked for suggestions on an English speaking girl and they provided two currently on shift ladies. I picked the one I thought suited my needs and arranged a time. I arrived around 5 minutes late due to traffic (early Sat afternoon, coming from Itim Bibi) but was politely taken to the room by the man behind the desk. Wasn't told anything (my lack of Portuguese) but assumed I should shower. Freshened up and lay down, lady took a little longer to enter than I liked, but when she did arrive, full of apologies and her English was very good. Promised to take care of me. Massage started, very good. Not oriental by any stretch of the imagination, but sufficed to unlock a few knotted muscles. Onto the action shortly after, very GFE, lots of DFK (warned to use the mouthwash. Which is on-hand in the bathroom) and lots of action. Finished with me kneeling over her and covering her tits. Good session and we had an instant connection, discussing our lives etc. Building a rapport. I will be back. The only thing that surprised me was the donation. 350 to the house and similar to the lady, in all it was 680 r, which I was a little surprised at, but still a lot cheaper than where I normally monger. I somehow got my wires crossed and assumed it was lower. Maybe I got the gringo price. Or maybe I was expecting Argentina prices (just flew in from there. Don't bother reading their forum its as dead as their currency).
Boates. Lotus Club.
Didn't realise until the 2nd night, that my accommodation was a 5 min walk away from Lotus Club. Due to proximity and me being lazy, thought I would saunter down there on the Sat night. Big mistake. Full of civilians. Talk about the housewives of Jardins. Bar area was packed with what looked like a work get together. All civilians, no girls to speak of. Maybe a low night, but luckily the staff offered to show me around before I paid anything, and were very apologetic when I looked despondent. They knew what I was after and they suggested Cafe Photo. A quick google search put it in proximity to Lotus Lounge, so Uber was arranged and off I went.
Boates. Cafe Photo.
Arrival was good. Bouncers and staff showed no dickery and I was in like a shot. For those on their first time in Sao Paulo. Its something I haven't seen before, you get a card on which your bar tab is accumulated. In normal bars, it acts as it should, while in the boates I am assuming its a minimum spend. Please correct me if I am wrong. No fingerprint required, but I did see the scanner on the counter. Into the main bar, and the ratio was around 20 girls and 8 punters. Reasonable odds. As I'm a smoker I headed upstairs to the smoking area, another couple of ladies floating in here. Lady in white caught my attention and she sauntered over on the pretext of bumming a light. Had a very quick convo saying I don't have (again my Portuguese let me down), but she flitted off with some friends when we couldn't communicate. Tall, leggy, enhanced and a little thick (voluptuous), but with a very cute face. I had a wander round keeping my options open. There were 2 girls I would class as 9's, the remainder between 7 and 9. Anyway I passed the lady in white and asked her to join me back outside for a smoke. Lots of google translate, a few drinks and laughs at our awkward language issues and I invited her back to the hotel. She offered 800 for a few hours, which given the prices I normally pay, I thought was a deal. So off we went. Lots of GFE experience, mixed with a bit of PSE to finish. No rush on the clock and she ended up staying for a lot longer than expected. She's a student (which matches previous reports here) and we actually got on very, very well. Will have to keep her in my back pocket for next time I'm out. Again I may have paid the gringo price, but I got what I wanted and at a price I was happy with. So I cannot complain at all.
Ok, all in all a good couple of days. For those uninitiated, there is an overload of info in these forums. Read it, learn the trending spots and don't be afraid to venture out. My suggestions for those short on time. Clinica's are the way to go. Don't be tight, go to the higher end ones. As in most places you get what you pay for. For those with free nights. Cafe Photo is reasonable. I have little to compare against, but will check out Scandallo this coming weekend. Also for the newbies. Sunday is dead, Saturday is a quieter night than in North America, Europe or others. Factor this into your monger time.
Also as a last note. Brazilian girls are fantastic. Friendly, outgoing and most keep themselves in very good shape. Even those born with big bones. They are all curvy and sexy. Shame about the jealousy issues I've heard about, else one of them could be my next wife.
Right team, I had a whirlwind tour in SP, two days / 2 nights this past weekend. As a newbie to SP I followed a number of recommendations in this forum to get a feel for the place.
Clinica. Lotus Lounge.
Asked to see the line up via Whatsapp (send them a message 'TEAMS' to their number and you get back a link with glamour shots of the ladies. Sans faces in most cases. The girl I wanted was unavailable, however I asked for suggestions on an English speaking girl and they provided two currently on shift ladies. I picked the one I thought suited my needs and arranged a time. I arrived around 5 minutes late due to traffic (early Sat afternoon, coming from Itim Bibi) but was politely taken to the room by the man behind the desk. Wasn't told anything (my lack of Portuguese) but assumed I should shower. Freshened up and lay down, lady took a little longer to enter than I liked, but when she did arrive, full of apologies and her English was very good. Promised to take care of me. Massage started, very good. Not oriental by any stretch of the imagination, but sufficed to unlock a few knotted muscles. Onto the action shortly after, very GFE, lots of DFK (warned to use the mouthwash. Which is on-hand in the bathroom) and lots of action. Finished with me kneeling over her and covering her tits. Good session and we had an instant connection, discussing our lives etc. Building a rapport. I will be back. The only thing that surprised me was the donation. 350 to the house and similar to the lady, in all it was 680 r, which I was a little surprised at, but still a lot cheaper than where I normally monger. I somehow got my wires crossed and assumed it was lower. Maybe I got the gringo price. Or maybe I was expecting Argentina prices (just flew in from there. Don't bother reading their forum its as dead as their currency).
Boates. Lotus Club.
Didn't realise until the 2nd night, that my accommodation was a 5 min walk away from Lotus Club. Due to proximity and me being lazy, thought I would saunter down there on the Sat night. Big mistake. Full of civilians. Talk about the housewives of Jardins. Bar area was packed with what looked like a work get together. All civilians, no girls to speak of. Maybe a low night, but luckily the staff offered to show me around before I paid anything, and were very apologetic when I looked despondent. They knew what I was after and they suggested Cafe Photo. A quick google search put it in proximity to Lotus Lounge, so Uber was arranged and off I went.
Boates. Cafe Photo.
Arrival was good. Bouncers and staff showed no dickery and I was in like a shot. For those on their first time in Sao Paulo. Its something I haven't seen before, you get a card on which your bar tab is accumulated. In normal bars, it acts as it should, while in the boates I am assuming its a minimum spend. Please correct me if I am wrong. No fingerprint required, but I did see the scanner on the counter. Into the main bar, and the ratio was around 20 girls and 8 punters. Reasonable odds. As I'm a smoker I headed upstairs to the smoking area, another couple of ladies floating in here. Lady in white caught my attention and she sauntered over on the pretext of bumming a light. Had a very quick convo saying I don't have (again my Portuguese let me down), but she flitted off with some friends when we couldn't communicate. Tall, leggy, enhanced and a little thick (voluptuous), but with a very cute face. I had a wander round keeping my options open. There were 2 girls I would class as 9's, the remainder between 7 and 9. Anyway I passed the lady in white and asked her to join me back outside for a smoke. Lots of google translate, a few drinks and laughs at our awkward language issues and I invited her back to the hotel. She offered 800 for a few hours, which given the prices I normally pay, I thought was a deal. So off we went. Lots of GFE experience, mixed with a bit of PSE to finish. No rush on the clock and she ended up staying for a lot longer than expected. She's a student (which matches previous reports here) and we actually got on very, very well. Will have to keep her in my back pocket for next time I'm out. Again I may have paid the gringo price, but I got what I wanted and at a price I was happy with. So I cannot complain at all.
Ok, all in all a good couple of days. For those uninitiated, there is an overload of info in these forums. Read it, learn the trending spots and don't be afraid to venture out. My suggestions for those short on time. Clinica's are the way to go. Don't be tight, go to the higher end ones. As in most places you get what you pay for. For those with free nights. Cafe Photo is reasonable. I have little to compare against, but will check out Scandallo this coming weekend. Also for the newbies. Sunday is dead, Saturday is a quieter night than in North America, Europe or others. Factor this into your monger time.
Also as a last note. Brazilian girls are fantastic. Friendly, outgoing and most keep themselves in very good shape. Even those born with big bones. They are all curvy and sexy. Shame about the jealousy issues I've heard about, else one of them could be my next wife.Fantastic report. Weekends seem to be bad days for the boates like Scandallo (which was packed with girls wed and thurs) when I was there. I learned from my last trip to save the weekends for Clinicas like Moema Prime and Clinica Miruna which are open on Sundays, or have a boate girl from Scandallo or Cafe Photo come over on the weekends. There is one spot I wanted to check out but never got to because it was so far out Club Connection, will have to check it out next trip.
How was the Lotus Lounge Lineup??
Clinica. Lotus Lounge.
Asked to see the line up via Whatsapp (send them a message 'TEAMS' to their number and you get back a link with glamour shots of the ladies. Sans faces in most cases. The girl I wanted was unavailable, however I asked for suggestions on an English speaking girl and they provided two currently on shift ladies. I picked the one I thought suited my needs and arranged a time. I arrived around 5 minutes late due to traffic (early Sat afternoon, coming from Itim Bibi) but was politely taken to the room by the man behind the desk. Wasn't told anything (my lack of Portuguese) but assumed I should shower. Freshened up and lay down, lady took a little longer to enter than I liked, but when she did arrive, full of apologies and her English was very good. Promised to take care of me. Massage started, very good. Not oriental by any stretch of the imagination, but sufficed to unlock a few knotted muscles. Onto the action shortly after, very GFE, lots of DFK (warned to use the mouthwash. Which is on-hand in the bathroom) and lots of action. Finished with me kneeling over her and covering her tits. Good session and we had an instant connection, discussing our lives etc. Building a rapport. I will be back. The only thing that surprised me was the donation. 350 to the house and similar to the lady, in all it was 680 r, which I was a little surprised at, but still a lot cheaper than where I normally monger. I somehow got my wires crossed and assumed it was lower. Maybe I got the gringo price.It's not gringo price. Screenshot from gpguia.
DocseLocks
10-24-22, 10:23
Hi ISGers,
So I am soon going to SP on my first trip there in just e few days. Normally I do as much research as I can, and I have done that this time also but I still have a a few questions I don't seem to figure out.
1) I do understand that Scandalo is a good (though expensive) place to check out, but I guess there are also other similar places around town? What are the differences in between them? Size? Selection? Price?
And what opening hours do the have and when is it best to go there (I'm guessing nighttime?
2) For daytime fun, what is the best choice? Clinicas or are there any bars you would recommend with. How does the clinicas work? Is there a line up or presentation or do you have to do a booking in advance? Prices? Opening hours? Recommendations?
3) online escort webpages. What are the best options here?
If anyone would meet up in SP, I'm in.
Cheeky Darky
10-25-22, 21:03
Fantastic report. Weekends seem to be bad days for the boates like Scandallo (which was packed with girls wed and thurs) when I was there. I learned from my last trip to save the weekends for Clinicas like Moema Prime and Clinica Miruna which are open on Sundays, or have a boate girl from Scandallo or Cafe Photo come over on the weekends. There is one spot I wanted to check out but never got to because it was so far out Club Connection, will have to check it out next trip.
How was the Lotus Lounge Lineup??Thanks for the heads up on the Cinicas that are open on a Sunday. I assumed (again should read the forum a little deeper for clues) that all places were shut on Sundays.
The line up was average, if a little anemic. Even receiving the lineup from their direct link there were maybe 5 girls, two of whom could speak English and not having their faces shown it was a bit of a crapshoot what I was going to get. Luckily the girl I got was exactly my type. Little pocket rocket, but oozed the GFE. Seems like the city is very quiet in the weekends. My next visit will make a mental note to try the week.
As an aside, does anyone here have details for Santos. It seems like the pickings are very thin. I'm stuck here for the remainder of the week and it's not a topic I can broach with my team here, as I have to play the corporate leader LOL. I'm sure its available (christ I've mongered in conflict zones) but seems like a very poor cousin to the offerings in Sao Paulo.
Cheeky Darky
10-25-22, 21:45
It's not gringo price. Screenshot from gpguia.Thanks mate for the confirmation.
My flight and the girl being an 8 to my tastes. Those were the reasons.
The only thing I can say on my favor is that I stand in the bar like waiting nothing, and she turned and smiled to me. I didn't break "Mike Tison's" negotiation LOL.
Your situation seemed to be happenstance. She was losing interest in the other guy's pitch and you showed up. Of course, he didn't see it that way.
We all know when we are negotiating, we can assess the numbers and determine how likely we will consummate a deal. Numbers like is she an 7, 8 or 9. How many men to women in the bar. How early or late is it.
Jungle competition is more obvious in the crowded bars.
AllAboutTer
10-26-22, 21:00
Hi,
I have searched several pages but could not find anything definitive.
I will be in Sao Paulo for 4 nights and looking for a 2 bedroom option either hotel or airbnb. First time in SP, want to do both boates and possibly bring girls back to the hotel.
Any recommendations where to stay, how to pick girl friendly airbnbs or if you can send me a few that are good I would appreciate that!!
Thanks in advance!
DreamCarnarvon
10-27-22, 12:17
I will be in Sao Paulo for 4 nights and looking for a 2 bedroom option either hotel or airbnb. First time in SP, want to do both boates and possibly bring girls back to the hotel.
Any recommendations where to stay, how to pick girl friendly airbnbs or if you can send me a few that are good I would appreciate that!!As far as Airbnb's goes, pretty much all of them can be girl friendly as long as you are discreet. I've stayed at several different apartments throughout SP and never had a problem bringing up girls. Some apartment buildings will have a front desk with security, some will not. Truth of the matter is, nobody in Brazil cares. Just make sure the girls are dressed appropriately.
I always book Airbnb's for 2 person. And with the host asks, I just tell them the other guest will arrive later.
I'm not familiar with the hotels so I will let other chime in on that.
As far as Airbnb's goes, pretty much all of them can be girl friendly as long as you are discreet. I've stayed at several different apartments throughout SP and never had a problem bringing up girls. Some apartment buildings will have a front desk with security, some will not. Truth of the matter is, nobody in Brazil cares. Just make sure the girls are dressed appropriately....This is my experience as well. But one has to read the rules and it may say no guest mostly due to COVID, and that usually is the policy of the building.
ID checking is for two things. Confirm your guest is 18+ and she has not been banned from the place.
It didn't happen to me in Brasil, but it did in Dominicana and Medellin, they had a list of banned girls because of common robbery. Girls when leaving the place walked in open rooms and took belongins of passengers.
Not a cheap hotel in Medellin, a 5 star hotel during an IT convention.
This is my experience as well. But one has to read the rules and it may say no guest mostly due to COVID, and that usually is the policy of the building.
I'm planning a second trip to Sao Paulo in the near future, and clinicas were my go-to. However while I was often shown pictures on a phone in house, I didn't really realize they have like a Whatsapp group where they send out pictures of the girls working. Random question, but if I text the clinicas whatsapp number to get in those groups, what should I say? I'm sure I could figure it out while I'm down there, but it'd be nice to hit the ground running. Thanks.
LoveItHere69
10-28-22, 23:26
Not sure if they are true twins or not. Thought someone would be interested in finding out and posting their findings.
https://br.skokka.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/piera-acompanhante-em-sao-paulo-sp-br7q9dyac/
Miruna is a must!I didn't know you were a wealth of info on Sao Paulo as well. Now I really want to meet up in Rio to pick your brain!
Have you guys had an excelent experience with Soa Paulo incall girls? I fell on a bait and switch.
The true sensation of facing the unknown, but not so sure if next time will be an acceptable switch. Only a couple of years older and I would have returned the merchandise, with the cost of her taxi at least, the hotel "additional guest", a senseless discusion for sure, and the waste of an entire afternoon.
I think you meant 'outcall'. Incall is when you visit the lady's place.
I'm planning a second trip to Sao Paulo in the near future, and clinicas were my go-to. However while I was often shown pictures on a phone in house, I didn't really realize they have like a Whatsapp group where they send out pictures of the girls working. Random question, but if I text the clinicas whatsapp number to get in those groups, what should I say? I'm sure I could figure it out while I'm down there, but it'd be nice to hit the ground running. Thanks.You can try but it didn't work for me. I made sure I was added while on site.
Not sure if they are true twins or not. Thought someone would be interested in finding out and posting their findings.
https://br.skokka.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/piera-acompanhante-em-sao-paulo-sp-br7q9dyac/Looks too good to be true but then again could be real!
Someone should check it out too se although if real could be really expensive I'd imagine.
She's a fashion model, Judith Fuster. Total Fake, not escort.
By the way, I can find faces with face recognition.
Not sure if they are true twins or not. Thought someone would be interested in finding out and posting their findings.
https://br.skokka.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/piera-acompanhante-em-sao-paulo-sp-br7q9dyac/
Hi,
I have searched several pages but could not find anything definitive.
I will be in Sao Paulo for 4 nights and looking for a 2 bedroom option either hotel or airbnb. First time in SP, want to do both boates and possibly bring girls back to the hotel.
Any recommendations where to stay, how to pick girl friendly airbnbs or if you can send me a few that are good I would appreciate that!!
Thanks in advance!I have stayed at several hotels, Marriott Executive Apartments, Renaissance, Hilton, and Airbnb. I have had no issues at any of the hotels having girls come to me. At one Airbnb (hotel like with front desk) the guy said I had to pay extra for the girl. I informed him I had paid for 2 occupants and he let it go at that. Now I always book for 2 and don't have issues.
The Critic
10-31-22, 09:06
She's a fashion model, Judith Fuster. Total Fake, not escort.
By the way, I can find faces with face recognition.Good find HiddenEye.
https://www.instagram.com/judithtwins
Even Photoacompanhantes is trying to eliminate fake listings. But its hard for these types websites to takedown all the fake listings. So you got to do due diligence.
Vagabundo1
10-31-22, 09:11
Qual meninas vc ten hoje?
Qual garotas vc ten HJ?
I'm planning a second trip to Sao Paulo in the near future, and clinicas were my go-to. However while I was often shown pictures on a phone in house, I didn't really realize they have like a Whatsapp group where they send out pictures of the girls working. Random question, but if I text the clinicas whatsapp number to get in those groups, what should I say? I'm sure I could figure it out while I'm down there, but it'd be nice to hit the ground running. Thanks.
Good find HiddenEye.
https://www.instagram.com/judithtwins
Even Photoacompanhantes is trying to eliminate fake listings. But its hard for these types websites to takedown all the fake listings. So you got to do due diligence.You can also find her on Onlyfans. Maybe she'll come over if you ask?
https://onlyfans.com/judithtwins
Vagabundo1
10-31-22, 14:05
I do not know all. But Miruna had no shit porn stars like Kamila Werneck and Cindy Blueberry. Though I always prefer new to the biz teens. Happy sport fucking sports fans from the Great Santini!
I didn't know you were a wealth of info on Sao Paulo as well. Now I really want to meet up in Rio to pick your brain!
Thanks TheCritic,
Few weeks ago a fell into a bait and switch scheme, but it was an acceptable one after contacting a "next door girl profile". The excuse of the girl was "she's actually my friend, but she could not come". The switch was acceptable.
Fashion model's pics are used all over the web to bait and switch. To identify them is quite easy with face recognition algorithms and sites like pimeyes that I know very well. I'm sure many of the guys here on ISG, IT capable, know the technology even better than me.
For example there is a super hot Spanish model named Melania Puntas, a model close to colleague photographers, who's pics are so widely used as fake escort profiles. There are literally hundreds of sites where Melania's pics are used. Try reverse image search on google and you'll agree with me.
If the pic on the profile looks like an "instagram star", the chances of a bait ans switch are simply too high.
Good find HiddenEye.
https://www.instagram.com/judithtwins
Even Photoacompanhantes is trying to eliminate fake listings. But its hard for these types websites to takedown all the fake listings. So you got to do due diligence.1.
Yes thanks Kib123, should have said outcall.
I think you meant 'outcall'. Incall is when you visit the lady's place.
Yeah, she's hot, but there are comments and free content, like the link below. She doesn't seem to reply PMs and to spend US $19,90 just to open the DM channel. It's your money, not mine.
https://forums.socialmediagirls.com/threads/judith-fuster-twin.40166/
The only way to pick such beauties for money is face to face in places like Scandallo, some times Cafe Photo and private events and Brazilian electronic scene.
You can also find her on Onlyfans. Maybe she'll come over if you ask?
https://onlyfans.com/judithtwins
90% just fakes. Not only in Brasil, also in Mexico. In Mexico I was even threatened and blackmailed by one after texting to a few WhatsApp numbers. Luckily I used a second, unregistered tel no.
Looks too good to be true but then again could be real!
Someone should check it out too se although if real could be really expensive I'd imagine.
Qual meninas vc ten hoje?
Qual garotas vc ten HJ?Quais. Tem.
LoveItHere69
11-01-22, 20:09
90% just fakes. Not only in Brasil, also in Mexico. In Mexico I was even threatened and blackmailed by one after texting to a few WhatsApp numbers. Luckily I used a second, unregistered tel no.I had to try everything during the lock down 3 years ago in Colombia. I tried nearly 100 girls. I tried Skokka, Photoprepagos, and Milerotica with a 25% success rate of getting what was advertised. The girls simply did not exist, photo shopped, used pix before they popped out 3 kids, suddenly their phone falls dead, no shows, and the list goes on. I also was threatened. The one time I used my real picture as my Whatsapp icon. The girl (most likely a guy) threatened to tell all my friends and family through FB, Insta, etc. I was after hookers. I am self employed and told her to go for it. I love street girls.
Feel stupid now about the twins. I looked at a bigger picture and recognize that I have seen them on other websites in the past.
..... I also was threatened. The one time I used my real picture as my Whatsapp icon. The girl (most likely a guy) threatened to tell all my friends and family through FB, Insta, etc. I was after hookers.....Recently a hooker somehow hacked my whatsapp account and forwarded as coming from me an ad for escort services to some of my contacts. I have no idea how she did it as I had previously blocked her.
Anyone in sao paulo tmrw? I'll likely be hitting up scandallo.
Anyone in sao paulo tmrw? I'll likely be hitting up scandallo.If you are talking about Thursday, I will be at Scandallo, Friday it will be Bomboa. I had great time last Friday at Bomboa. Not so packed as in weekdays, but lots of nice girls.
Did you let her use your phone while you were.
In the bathroom?
Recently a hooker somehow hacked my whatsapp account and forwarded as coming from me an ad for escort services to some of my contacts. I have no idea how she did it as I had previously blocked her.
If you are talking about Thursday, I will be at Scandallo, Friday it will be Bomboa. I had great time last Friday at Bomboa. Not so packed as in weekdays, but lots of nice girls.Would you please give some more details about Bamboa? Entry fee, number of girls, price they are going to ask, service provided. Thanks!
Would you please give some more details about Bamboa? Entry fee, number of girls, price they are going to ask, service provided. Thanks!There is no entry fee. The minimum consumption is 300 + 10%. I have never really counted the number of girls, but I assume 30-50 depending on day. Tuesday to Thursday are the busiest, but I liked Friday, because it was less crowded with maybe 30 girls and many striptease shows. Nobody has asked me to buy expensive drinks like tropical gin, but I have bought quite a few beers, because I don't like to drink alone. I don't know the price of beer, because I never checked my bill when I paid. Very relaxed atmosphere. There is more information about Bomboa few pages back.
I'm at Scandallo right now and it's the best I have ever seen it. I'm not an expert because Bomboa is my go to place, even if I have been here few times before. The ratio is about 2 to 1 to my favor. There are some girls I would rate 6, some 7's and most are in the range 8-9 and I'm optimistic that I'm going to meet the famous 10, who nobody has ever seen, but we all dream about. I'm eating sushi and some 5 girls are staring at me. I'm not sure if I'm some kind of sex symbol for them or they just desire to empty my wallet. It's going to be a very good night. I must stop now, because I think I saw The 10.
Did you let her use your phone while you were.
In the bathroom?Obviously not. No hooker has ever seen my phone, much less touch it. No one touches my phone but me.
They are smelling the bills in your wallet.
Enjoy, and choose smart. And never. Absolutely never ever let them choose you. You have to make the decision and choose one, because in 9 of 10 cases, if they choose you, you will not be satisfied at the end.
And one more recommendation: don't stay at one place. Move around. Slowly, but steady. If not, one of the ladies will get ya even if you don't really want her.
I'm at Scandallo right now and it's the best I have ever seen it. I'm not an expert because Bomboa is my go to place, even if I have been here few times before. The ratio is about 2 to 1 to my favor. There are some girls I would rate 6, some 7's and most are in the range 8-9 and I'm optimistic that I'm going to meet the famous 10, who nobody has ever seen, but we all dream about. I'm eating sushi and some 5 girls are staring at me. I'm not sure if I'm some kind of sex symbol for them or they just desire to empty my wallet. It's going to be a very good night. I must stop now, because I think I saw The 10.
Oh yeah, great place to eat and be eaten with the eyes, in the Scandallo's restaurants and corners.
Last month there was an old guy who looked like an intellectual or polititian, with tie bow and thick glasses, in the smoking area (fumodromo) sorounded by 3 super hot 9's and 10's. Those girls were simply "show de bola". That table was worth watching LOL.
Enjoy!
I'm at Scandallo right now and it's the best I have ever seen it. I'm not an expert because Bomboa is my go to place, even if I have been here few times before. The ratio is about 2 to 1 to my favor. There are some girls I would rate 6, some 7's and most are in the range 8-9 and I'm optimistic that I'm going to meet the famous 10, who nobody has ever seen, but we all dream about. I'm eating sushi and some 5 girls are staring at me. I'm not sure if I'm some kind of sex symbol for them or they just desire to empty my wallet. It's going to be a very good night. I must stop now, because I think I saw The 10.
Hi fellas!
Making my first visit down to Brazil! I have done many visits to Hong Kong in Tijuana! Absolutely amazing and wonderful time to have.
I've been reading the forum and it looks like Scandallo is the place to go? How much are the girls asking? What is the short time room cost?
I'll be visiting Rio as well so hoping to get a taste of Brazil on my short trip when I'm away from the fam.
Hi guys,
I was in SP last week and went to a massage house, that was fabulous. Its the reserva lux near the Santa Cruz metro. They showed some ten fantastic girls, all very beautiful and nice. I went with Sabrina, and had the time of my life. The house is very clean, modern, with all the comfort, and I felt very safe there.
The owner, Mary, super nice and available to make me feel at home. Check the site if you want to spend a fantastic afternoon.
...
I've been reading the forum and it looks like Scandallo is the place to go? How much are the girls asking? What is the short time room cost?...Just counter with 50% what she first quotes you.
Albha Rimon
11-06-22, 05:10
If you are talking about Thursday, I will be at Scandallo, Friday it will be Bomboa. I had great time last Friday at Bomboa. Not so packed as in weekdays, but lots of nice girls.Hi Nordico,
Could you give some more details about your experience at Bomboa?
Albha Rimon
11-06-22, 05:46
Fantastic report. Weekends seem to be bad days for the boates like Scandallo (which was packed with girls wed and thurs) when I was there. I learned from my last trip to save the weekends for Clinicas like Moema Prime and Clinica Miruna which are open on Sundays, or have a boate girl from Scandallo or Cafe Photo come over on the weekends. There is one spot I wanted to check out but never got to because it was so far out Club Connection, will have to check it out next trip.
How was the Lotus Lounge Lineup??Hi Maelstrom.
Your tip on what is open on Sundays near Moema is wonderful. Do you know about any other clinica open on Sundays around this area?
Best,
Juan.
Albha Rimon
11-06-22, 05:47
Thanks for the heads up on the Cinicas that are open on a Sunday. I assumed (again should read the forum a little deeper for clues) that all places were shut on Sundays.
The line up was average, if a little anemic. Even receiving the lineup from their direct link there were maybe 5 girls, two of whom could speak English and not having their faces shown it was a bit of a crapshoot what I was going to get. Luckily the girl I got was exactly my type. Little pocket rocket, but oozed the GFE. Seems like the city is very quiet in the weekends. My next visit will make a mental note to try the week.
As an aside, does anyone here have details for Santos. It seems like the pickings are very thin. I'm stuck here for the remainder of the week and it's not a topic I can broach with my team here, as I have to play the corporate leader LOL. I'm sure its available (christ I've mongered in conflict zones) but seems like a very poor cousin to the offerings in Sao Paulo.Hi Ceeky Darky.
Did you discover any other clinica open on Sundays?
True. Even if they are hot. I always decline the ones that come up to me first.
They are smelling the bills in your wallet.
Enjoy, and choose smart. And never. Absolutely never ever let them choose you. You have to make the decision and choose one, because in 9 of 10 cases, if they choose you, you will not be satisfied at the end.
And one more recommendation: don't stay at one place. Move around. Slowly, but steady. If not, one of the ladies will get ya even if you don't really want her.
That is strange, I'm trying to think of how they were able to access your whatsapp user account. They must have some type of admin access or cloned the account somehow.
Obviously not. No hooker has ever seen my phone, much less touch it. No one touches my phone but me.
That is strange, I'm trying to think of how they were able to access your whatsapp user account. They must have some type of admin access or cloned the account somehow.It is quite perplexing. I know a guy whose facebook account was hacked. No passing off on the profile, his actual account.
It happened to a colleague. He left a Whatsapp session opened in a PC. He was miles away and the user still logged.
Chats, contacts, everything available.
There is an option to close all sessions on the phone. You must be sure there are no other active sessions.
That is strange, I'm trying to think of how they were able to access your whatsapp user account. They must have some type of admin access or cloned the account somehow.
I'll be staying in the osasco area and would love some input on places to go like clinicia. I want to report out on my experience but not sure what's in this area and not good luck Google it. Much appreciated and look forward to reporting my experience.
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