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So last time in Sao Paulo I decided I wanted to veer a bit out of the Moema bubble and checked out Deluxe Spa in Jabaquara at Rua Jandiroba 365 (ok so I did not veer very far out of the Moema bubble LOL! I took the plunge based on high marks on the very reliable gp-guia. It was well worth the trip for me because it checked all my boxes. There were a handful of girls I found desireable and the one I chose performed like a champ and was patient with my crappy Portuguese. For 180 reales I left happy as a clam. For reference, the reception area and rooms are just slightly nicer than Tangara and Yankin. I guess that's fair since it costs just slightly more than the Villa Mariana joints. The selection of girls were more to my liking overall than the Vila Mariana team. I can recommend it to those who want to mix it up a bit.
I am looking forward to leaving the 117 F / (44 C) weather behind and crossing over the equator in September where it's spring in Sao Paulo / Rio.
Daylight does not scare us vampires from Vegas.
We usually stay up till 4 AM here so it's likely I will close up Scandallo on some nights. Alas my burning? Is will I find a travel companion like MR Bearsi, Steve & Elvis and others have written. Because sex IMHO is better if it's over a few days and enjoyed with what you call GFE? Probably some traveling, waking up together, doing adventures. With memories of truly living life to it's fullest.
A short term wifey. Or more? LOL a 10 would be nice, if her spirit matches her looks even better.This isn't a tall order but does take some scouting to find your girl. Every guy has their preference of what is a 10 so I would look at all the houses. Scan is usually the first choice. Not all girls there will charge you crazy rates. They don't all get several guys every night. I usually go 3-4 times when I spend a week there and I will see the same girl getting passed on time and time again and they are just waiting for 5 am to come around and leave.
Bomboa has some good girls as well and are reasonable as well.
Connections I met this firecracker who blew my mind. Probably the best session I ever had.
Casarao definitely has hidden gems. Met a few girls I repeated with and had an amazing time with.
Online girls are also not to be missed. I met my super GFE on private55 two years ago. Redhead german brazilian girl with blue eyes, milky white body and a brazilian bunda. She truly was the girl I always dreamed of. I honestly couldn't believe my luck. We spent a week in RJ after meeting 3 times in SP. Was just one of those moments that songs were written about.
Private55 as some people know is kind of the high end site that attracts more gringos and thus are usually more expensive that girls advertise to get those gringo bucks but she was very reasonable at 400 brl for an hour and 1000 brl for an overnight. When we left for RJ she went for fun. She was fairly new so I came at the right time. So just because a place is supposed to be expensive doesn't mean you can't get lucky and get a deal of a lifetime. MCLass, SPLove and linkarosa are also good trusty alternatives.
It is something else to travel with a girl who just fits your every check box and is having the time of her life traveling somewhere she never thought she'd go and with a guy she likes.
It was pretty nice when we went to restaurants she would know what I liked and would order for me (my porto was pretty bad at the time).
A glass bottle of coke, fries and some chicken nuggets (in the shape of dinosaurs if they had them but only the fancy Michelin star places had those).
I've tried to replicate that success as my ruiva fraulein has since departed. But that success has yet to be matched.
My spanish blood flows through me and just as my ancestor I won't give up until I find that buried treasure and conquer once again.
I got introduced to Brazil from Rio / MonteCarlo, Solarium and 4 x 4 termas. I enjoy the time here. Been travelling to Brazil for over 10 years. Eventually to Sao paulo and Scandallo has been my go-to. 5-7 days literally every day at Scandallo.
I was there last week. Few days Rio and then to Scandallo.
My number best Luxury place was Scandallo. (I also was there in March). This place has taken a major hit. First last week quite bad / empty. (the manager was claiming it is a school close week etc. , But the very average 5 out of 10 girl was asking 1500. I had the same experience with multiple people. (trust me I am an experienced person. Been to Scandallo atleast 50-75 nights). Just got irritating. 1500 with USD to Reals was around 4. 65 = that is $322? + the 500 entrance ($108) + room 260 ($56) = total = 500 $ give or take. That I can get it in US itself. The whole charm was hot girls in abundance, a place with luxury and prices relatively cheaper that US. I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs. If this is the case, people will stop coming here. How much ever you have a great luxury place and easy concept. But 500 $ is just unacceptable. So literally, I left from this place and went to Casarao. My number 1 place is gone. I have a business class ticket in place in April next year and I will be cancelling. Shocker.
I visited all the 3 places in RIO. Top notch services, good very good prices. Total never exceeded between 600-750 BRLs. And exchange rate is top notch, got 4. 8. Please share new locations outside of Brazil that is worth the effort with "LUXURY". (not Germany please. The Romanian girls are too mechanical).
I am preparing for my trip and I am trying to organize sessions with escorts from the sites provided here and Twitter. Let me say that theae girls almost never answer back, and they leave your Whatsapp message on read plenty of times, even with them having stellar reviews on gp guia. What gives? Are Brazilian girls just terrible business women? Escorts in the US (as much of a ripoff as they are) almost always answer back.
I guess in person I'll have to deal with drama in Brazil, am I? I'm not an ugly old guy mind you all. I'm sure plenty of clients of these girls are not great on the eyes. Any opinions on dealing with these broads?Many of the girls on Twitter also advertise there. I know of 2 Twitter girls that got back to me after I was already on my way back home. But the ones advertising on those online sites seem to be better at getting back to me. Also seem to have GPS with them making money on privacy and onlyfans. 2 others that got back to me wanted deposits through PIX and I am not a sucker so skipped that.
Met a couple of gems from private55. One of them wants to visit me in Vegas which is a no can do. My SO is here.
I am preparing for my trip and I am trying to organize sessions with escorts from the sites provided here and Twitter. Let me say that theae girls almost never answer back, and they leave your Whatsapp message on read plenty of times, even with them having stellar reviews on gp guia. What gives? Are Brazilian girls just terrible business women? Escorts in the US (as much of a ripoff as they are) almost always answer back.
I guess in person I'll have to deal with drama in Brazil, am I? I'm not an ugly old guy mind you all. I'm sure plenty of clients of these girls are not great on the eyes. Any opinions on dealing with these broads?Many of the girls on Twitter also advertise there. I know of 2 Twitter girls that got back to me after I was already on my way back home. But the ones advertising on those online sites seem to be better at getting back to me. Also seem to have GPS with them making money on privacy and onlyfans. 2 others that got back to me wanted deposits through PIX and I am not a sucker so skipped that.
Met a couple of gems from private55. One of them wants to visit me in Vegas which is a no can do. My SO is here.
FlappyGilmore0
07-17-23, 19:32
My last visit to Scan in May saw many girls start at 1200 Real but just counter nicely and I got good results. I took 4 over a 3 days period and all took 700-800 eventually. Pro Tip, they prefer to be paid in cash. Of course don't do it upfront!
I got introduced to Brazil from Rio / MonteCarlo, Solarium and 4 x 4 termas. I enjoy the time here. Been travelling to Brazil for over 10 years. Eventually to Sao paulo and Scandallo has been my go-to. 5-7 days literally every day at Scandallo.
I was there last week. Few days Rio and then to Scandallo.
My number best Luxury place was Scandallo. (I also was there in March). This place has taken a major hit. First last week quite bad / empty. (the manager was claiming it is a school close week etc. , But the very average 5 out of 10 girl was asking 1500. I had the same experience with multiple people. (trust me I am an experienced person. Been to Scandallo atleast 50-75 nights). Just got irritating. 1500 with USD to Reals was around 4. 65 = that is $322? + the 500 entrance ($108) + room 260 ($56) = total = 500 $ give or take. That I can get it in US itself. The whole charm was hot girls in abundance, a place with luxury and prices relatively cheaper that US. I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs. If this is the case, people will stop coming here. How much ever you have a great luxury place and easy concept. But 500 $ is just unacceptable. So literally, I left from this place and went to Casarao. My number 1 place is gone. I have a business class ticket in place in April next year and I will be cancelling. Shocker.
I visited all the 3 places in RIO. Top notch services, good very good prices. Total never exceeded between 600-750 BRLs. And exchange rate is top notch, got 4. 8. Please share new locations outside of Brazil that is worth the effort with "LUXURY". (not Germany please. The Romanian girls are too mechanical).
My last visit to Scan in May saw many girls start at 1200 Real but just counter nicely and I got good results. I took 4 over a 3 days period and all took 700-800 eventually. Pro Tip, they prefer to be paid in cash. Of course don't do it upfront!Still a lot of money if you consider all other mandatory expenses. For just a quick 1 hour service. Pernoite would be a different story and somewhat justified, but they won't do it for 700-800.
DonCarlos1234
07-17-23, 21:15
Many of the girls on Twitter also advertise there. I know of 2 Twitter girls that got back to me after I was already on my way back home. But the ones advertising on those online sites seem to be better at getting back to me. Also seem to have GPS with them making money on privacy and onlyfans. 2 others that got back to me wanted deposits through PIX and I am not a sucker so skipped that.
Met a couple of gems from private55. One of them wants to visit me in Vegas which is a no can do. My SO is here.Planning to message someone on private55 a few days before I travel to Sao Paulo / Rio this September. I used to do the same on SA because some of those girls get 100's of messages. The internet is ruining in person meetings. Well. Except for those of us here who prefer reality.
I don't see why Scandallo would lower its prices. They have a great reputation and a steady stream of repeat and first time customers. They really only need a few groups of guys to make their night.
I'm pretty sure there is an expense account customer group. At least that's how I was first invited to a night out there. Every year that goes by I"m less likely to return because I spend more and more time sleeping at night and more and more of my fun time is during daylight hours. I remember lots of good looking girls but basic food.
Still a lot of money if you consider all other mandatory expenses. For just a quick 1 hour service. Pernoite would be a different story and somewhat justified, but they won't do it for 700-800.
DonCarlos1234
07-17-23, 21:35
This isn't a tall order but does take some scouting to find your girl. Every guy has their preference of what is a 10 so I would look at all the houses. Scan is usually the first choice. Not all girls there will charge you crazy rates. They don't all get several guys every night. I usually go 3-4 times when I spend a week there and I will see the same girl getting passed on time and time again and they are just waiting for 5 am to come around and leave.
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It is something else to travel with a girl who just fits your every check box and is having the time of her life traveling somewhere she never thought she'd go and with a guy she likes.Thanks Bearsi. Terrific and detailed info. My plan is similar to what you've described. Search all venues (possibly multiple times) till the notoriously hard-to-catch 10's appear. Then see if there's magic between us. It works if you remain diligent and persistent. Sometimes it's just luck. Then the real fun begins.
Axel Heyst
07-17-23, 22:25
My last visit to Scan in May saw many girls start at 1200 Real but just counter nicely and I got good results. I took 4 over a 3 days period and all took 700-800 eventually. Pro Tip, they prefer to be paid in cash. Of course, don't do it upfront!I never paid more than 800 for a Scandallo girl on my recent SP visit, but maybe it is me because on this trip I focused primarily on pretty, tier 2, girl next door types and left the tier 1 model types to others.
Most Scandallo tier 2 quality girls will ask anywhere from 600 to 1000 and will settle for 600 to 800. A tier 1 girl (model quality) will ask anywhere from 1200 to 2000. My simple rule is offer half and be willing to settle for half plus 200 if I really want the girl and she will not go lower. A Scandallo Tier 1 girl example: after a 20 to 30 minute drink & audition that went well, a very attractive girl might ask for 1500. I will counter with a friendly 700 counteroffer, and that's that unless the girl counters my counter with 800 or 900 offer in which case, I will usually accept it and off we go. No girl this trip turned down my final offer of half + 200.
I never negotiate what we are going to do. I rely on my instincts and the vibe established during our get to know ya stage ie the audition. I prefer the element of surprise plus there is no need to prespecify what you want with Brazilian girls unless you want something a little extra like anal sex or bareback sex. I met some great girls in Scandallo on my recent trip including a voluptuous blond from Paraguay, a bubbly Japanese Brazilian girl, a slender and wild Indigenes mixed race girl, and a northern Italian looking gal.
P.S. The girls don't care if a customer pays them in cash out of his pocket in the room after sex or the customer's credit card is charged at the front desk for the girl's service fee by the Scandallo hotel reception which then hands the cash to the girl before the two of you go to your room.
As I already told before, I propose photo shoots to escorts who want to make a more income and get free professional pics. Most of the girls, not all unfortunately, brazilians or argies, accept. Lower acceptance rate from peruvians and chileans, they tend to be more conservative. Colombians love shoots, but I don't go to Colombia for almost 15 years. The venezuelans I know are managed by gangs, so no deal with them.
But this happened the other way around in Sao Paulo, I mean, I booked a model for a sexy shoot, didn't know she was actually an escort. I contacted this lovely brunette from a promo models group on facebook, where job offers are posted. We exchanged a few messages showing my work and finally fixed a price and date for a bikini shoot. I was impressed by her boobs, silicon indeed.
The model made no complaints with shooting in a love motel, where we met in a very sunny afternoon, so that was a pink flag for me already. She made a nice modeling job, very nice curves, bikini and topless, but the fun thing happened at the end of the shoot. She received a phone call from a friend, and they were talking about the boates we mention on this group. So, my ears suddenly transformed into radars. And when we were getting ready to leave, I made the definitive question "voce faz programa?" (are you a working girl? And she said yes, I do. (sim eu faco programa) and of course I made the immediate proposal.
What do you think about R500 for a quick?. And she said ok, let's do it. So those lovely tits bounced in front of my eyes and I ended up pulling that magnificent black long hair in doggy style for a few minutes next to the pool of the love motel. It was nice relaxation after a sexy photoshoot.
But the story does not end there, I asked if she had a friend who would like to shoot, and she proposed a girl who looked just fine on her Instagram pics and we all met two days later. But unfortunately I didn't like the attitude of her friend and she was a master of Photoshop! She looked so different. So there was no second shoot neither second f*ck! I made only draft pics with my cellphone and I had to pay the taxi of both girls and R200 for their time. Hahahahaha one can't win at all times!
It was kind of frustrating, but I'm still in contact with the brunette who's a very kind woman. She's almost 30, mother of 2. 7 years before she was a sweet creature of god I wish I would have met and f*cked before.
Note: Take a detailed look on the tattoo on her instep so you can see it's the same girl.
I don't see why Scandallo would lower its prices. They have a great reputation and a steady stream of repeat and first time customers. They really only need a few groups of guys to make their night.
I'm pretty sure there is an expense account customer group. At least that's how I was first invited to a night out there. Every year that goes by I"m less likely to return because I spend more and more time sleeping at night and more and more of my fun time is during daylight hours. I remember lots of good looking girls but basic food.
I don't think a few groups of guys are enough for the girls to make money, because not every guy goes there to fuck, no matter the rates. No sex = no money for the girls, no room or take out fee for the venue. I don't think high entrance fee is an issue, because most of it is consumable. But girls, who are freelancers, can't just raise the rates indefinitely, outpacing the rate of inflation, because at some point even fewer guys will fuck them.
Aristhotle
07-18-23, 06:25
Ok. My first night in Sao Paulo and I decided to try an escort. A girl called Bruna Kalifa was in my sights (link after my report below). I wanted a threesome in hope for some lesbian action on it. Didn't really get that. I'll explain.
So I ask her to bring a friend and she does. The friend was a mixed girl with a thick girl curvy figure. I liked her.
Bruna Kalifa herself was a total hottie. What you see in the ad picture is what you get. Skinny but with firm female shape and fake tities. She has a small tattoo right under her left front shoulder (whereas in the pic she doesn't).
My desire was for lesbianism in this threesome and it wasn't great lesbianism. They close mouthed kiss each other, and after kind of almost begging them, I got Bruna to suck her friend's titties. But they wouldn't go down on each other, and laughed and joked about even trying anything else lesbian.
Bruna's friend wasn't much of a freak. Dare I say she was terrible. But Bruna seemed like more of a freak. Her pussy and asshole both tasted clean and delish. Bruna was fun whereas her friend Camilla wasn't. I perhaps think I should have been with only Bruna Kalifa, and not asked for the threesome with her friend. It does look like Bruna Kalifa is worth it for solos action. Don't engage her on a threesome. I don't think she is very bi. But seeing her alone definitely seems like the smarter idea. Bruna sucked cock like a champ and looked amazing.
Bruna was 400 reals for 1 hour, plus the price of the Uber. See her alone. Don't see her with another girl.
https://mclassbrasil.com.br/acompanhantes/bruna-kalifa/
Aristhotle
07-18-23, 06:28
Ok. My first night in Sao Paulo and I decided to try an escort. A girl called Bruna Kalifa was in my sights (link after my report below). I wanted a threesome in hope for some lesbian action on it. Didn't really get that. I'll explain.
So I ask her to bring a friend and she does. The friend was a mixed girl with a thick girl curvy figure. I liked the friend physically speaking, but she may not be physically beautiful for everyone.
Bruna Kalifa herself was a total hottie. What you see in the ad picture is what you get. Skinny but with firm female shape and fake tities. She has a small tattoo right under her left front shoulder (whereas in the pic she doesn't).
My desire was for lesbianism in this threesome and it wasn't great lesbianism. They close mouthed kiss each other, and after kind of almost begging them, I got Bruna to suck her friend's titties. But they wouldn't go down on each other, and laughed and joked about even trying anything else lesbian.
Bruna's friend wasn't much of a freak. Dare I say she was terrible. But Bruna seemed like more of a freak. Her pussy and asshole both tasted clean and delish. Bruna was fun whereas her friend Camilla wasn't. I perhaps think I should have been with only Bruna Kalifa, and not asked for the threesome with her friend. It does look like Bruna Kalifa is worth it for solos action. Don't engage her on a threesome. I don't think she is very bi. But seeing her alone definitely seems like the smarter idea. Bruna sucked cock like a champ and looked amazing.
Bruna was 400 reals for 1 hour, plus the price of the Uber. See her alone. Don't see her with another girl.
https://mclassbrasil.com.br/acompanhantes/bruna-kalifa/
The Critic
07-18-23, 07:09
I don't think a few groups of guys are enough for the girls to make money, because not every guy goes there to fuck, no matter the rates. No sex = no money for the girls, no room or take out fee for the venue. I don't think high entrance fee is an issue, because most of it is consumable. But girls, who are freelancers, can't just raise the rates indefinitely, outpacing the rate of inflation, because at some point even fewer guys will fuck them.I concur, but I do not think Scandallo cares about the foreigners who patronize the venue. The "Rich" or "well to do" Brasileiro's are the ones making the market. Since SP is the Financial Capital, I'm sure there is plenty of money slouching around. Only if the Brasileiro's start balking at the price and not showing up will the venue take some mitigation measures to reign in prices. As it has been mentioned in previous posts the "Talent is Charged a Fee" to be there, so they at least have to charge Fee+Rate=Quote to make it worthwhile (profit) to be there.
Most Scandallo tier 2 quality girls will ask anywhere from 600 to 1000 and will settle for 600 to 800. A tier 1 girl (model quality) will ask anywhere from 1200 to 2000. My simple rule is offer half and be willing to settle for half plus 200 if I really want the girl and she will not go lower. A Scandallo Tier 1 girl example: after a 20 to 30 minute drink & audition that went well, a very attractive girl might ask for 1500. I will counter with a friendly 700 counteroffer, and that's that unless the girl counters my counter with 800 or 900 offer in which case, I will usually accept it and off we go. No girl this trip turned down my final offer of half + 200.I like this simple strategy. Will employ next trip. It's straightforward and can be adjusted on the fly.
My number best Luxury place was Scandallo. (I also was there in March). This place has taken a major hit. First last week quite bad / empty. (the manager was claiming it is a school close week etc. , But the very average 5 out of 10 girl was asking 1500. I had the same experience with multiple people. (trust me I am an experienced person. Been to Scandallo atleast 50-75 nights). Just got irritating. 1500 with USD to Reals was around 4. 65 = that is $322? + the 500 entrance ($108) + room 260 ($56) = total = 500 $ give or take. That I can get it in US itself. The whole charm was hot girls in abundance, a place with luxury and prices relatively cheaper that US. I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs. If this is the case, people will stop coming here. How much ever you have a great luxury place and easy concept. But 500 $ is just unacceptable. So literally, I left from this place and went to Casarao. My number 1 place is gone. I have a business class ticket in place in April next year and I will be cancelling. Shocker.Since you "I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs".
Surely you can elaborate on your conversation with the manager, I would (and sure everyone else) be interested in his response to your complaint / inquiry. I would like to know if he expressed an opinion regarding your "Inputs"? Did he show concern when you expressed dissatisfaction with the pricing or was he disappointed when you indicated that you would not be back because of pricing? Or better yet did he lower the pricing on your accord?
Inquiring minds would like to know. Especially if your able to tell us the new pricing structure you were able to broker (for all us customers) so the Scandallo can continue to be a "going concern"?
I'm very curious on what data this place went by in making the decision to increasing the prices for everyone there. Not only that but they made the rules more strict for the clients and the girls.
I concur, but I do not think Scandallo cares about the foreigners who patronize the venue. The "Rich" or "well to do" Brasileiro's are the ones making the market. Since SP is the Financial Capital, I'm sure there is plenty of money slouching around. Only if the Brasileiro's start balking at the price and not showing up will the venue take some mitigation measures to reign in prices. As it has been mentioned in previous posts the "Talent is Charged a Fee" to be there, so they at least have to charge Fee+Rate=Quote to make it worthwhile (profit) to be there.
I like this simple strategy. Will employ next trip. It's straightforward and can be adjusted on the fly.
Since you "I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs".
Surely you can elaborate on your conversation with the manager, I would (and sure everyone else) be interested in his response to your complaint / inquiry. I would like to know if he expressed an opinion regarding your "Inputs"? Did he show concern when you expressed dissatisfaction with the pricing or was he disappointed when you indicated that you would not be back because of pricing? Or better yet did he lower the pricing on your accord?
Inquiring minds would like to know. Especially if your able to tell us the new pricing structure you were able to broker (for all us customers) so the Scandallo can continue to be a "going concern"?
The Critic
07-18-23, 08:02
I'm very curious on what data this place went by in making the decision to increasing the prices for everyone there. Not only that but they made the rules more strict for the clients and the girls.I share your curiosity since I have experienced two price (entrance) hikes. However, the entrance fee is not much my concern due to the consumable portion. Now the Talent rates that is another story. I can understand them trying to make a living but sometimes I just laugh at some of the quotes I have received. Overall, I try to have fun and see what my budget gets me. I do like AxelHeyst's cost strategy.
I agree with you about the girls and how they make their money. I was referring to Scandallo the business. I don't think they are very concerned about how much money the girls make, at leasts not enough to lower the entrance fee. The garotas will continue to show up for the prospect of scoring that BRL1,500 date. I know guys who don't go anywhere except Scandallo when they are in Sao Paulo. There is definitely a dedicated fan base.
I don't think a few groups of guys are enough for the girls to make money, because not every guy goes there to fuck, no matter the rates. No sex = no money for the girls, no room or take out fee for the venue. I don't think high entrance fee is an issue, because most of it is consumable. But girls, who are freelancers, can't just raise the rates indefinitely, outpacing the rate of inflation, because at some point even fewer guys will fuck them.
When I was younger it was all about getting 2 different girls a day overall spend 2 k reais a day with club fees etc. Some girls may have been great with some avg.
Now that I am older, I rather get 1 hot arm candy for about 2 k a day and spend a few days together and get BBFS and extras. We got tested together.
Last few months at Scandallo spent a week with a magazine model, fashion model, and tv actress. They go there every couple of months when they need extra cash or find a new sugar so yes gems can be found still if you don't mind spending 10 k a week for one or a little over 2 k usd which is an incredible deal still.
DonCarlos1234
07-18-23, 23:11
I agree with you about the girls and how they make their money. I was referring to Scandallo the business. I don't think they are very concerned about how much money the girls make, at leasts not enough to lower the entrance fee. The garotas will continue to show up for the prospect of scoring that BRL1,500 date. I know guys who don't go anywhere except Scandallo when they are in Sao Paulo. There is definitely a dedicated fan base.Just for comparison to show you what a great deal Scandallo is.
In Brazil it appears they combine VIP Service mingled with dinners, "consumption" and a plethora of girls wandering around trying to meet guys with the most $$$ Same here but "consumption" is never included. (You guys are lucky).
The top 3 clubs here have 200 + dancers at any given time. With 2 basic levels of service.
1st level the general public pays for seating, drinks and pay as you go for dances. Limiting the general admission customer to voyeurism with a few dances. But not as intimate as the VIP area. Still can cost hundreds or thousands of dollars if you have the money and go crazy having never seen a 10 before. These are generic VIP areas for the general public. Girls are usually lined up on weekends with customers waiting to enter. It' a waste of money.
Separating the wheat from the chaff.
2nd level are whales in the VIP rooms. They say, "There's no sex in the VIP rooms" although I think it's possible because the costs are astronomical. Minimums are $5,000 for a reserved booth. Plus whatever you spend there. Champagne isn't cheap. Food delivered, can last all night. These rooms generate more $ than all the 2,000+ general admission customers combined. Now that's consumption!
The top tier girls are sent to those rooms. Girls who "work" these rooms make a minimum of $2,000/ night. They pay up to $150/ night to work at the club. I have seen guys put envelopes of many thousands of dollars of cash in front of these girls propositioning them. These girls drive expensive cars and own multiple homes. So some actually decline offers but some meet clients outside the club. They are not allowed to leave with a customer.
A lot of these girls fly in from SoCal to work weekends, special events and conventions. I have been told John Wayne airport has certain flight with 50% strippers heading to work Vegas weekends. OK some are not just strippers. We have over 20,000 entertainers (licensed) that work in Vegas from the USA mostly. LOL.
One night I was talking to an owner at one of the clubs. I was told VIP clients (whales) support 90% of their business. They have 5,000 customers / night on weekends. The volume is necessary to weed out the whales for our VIP rooms. And it makes the girls happy.
Scandallo is a cheap date by comparison. I can hardly wait. Forgot to mention we all know the USA's top clubs offer "blue balls vs. Complete service" in Brazil".
Went to Scandello on a Monday afternoon around 2 pm as I had to check out of the hotel and my flight was at 10:30 PM to come back home.
I took my suitcase and my backpack with me to Scandello. Before entry they thoroughly check your bags. Entry was 300 all consumable, and they have a space to store your luggage. It is very secure and you can leave all your valuables with them. They even gave me a Brazilian charging plug my iPhone cable so I could charge it inside the club.
Upon entry the restaurant, small patio and the bar is open. Everything else is closed. There were about 15 to 20 girls walking around and they ranged from 6. 5-8. 5.
I was the only client at that time, so all the girls came and sat where I was on the patio so that I could get a good look at them. I ended up buying a bottle of gin since I was going to be there for at least six hours and found a 22 year old spinner to join me for drinks. Approximately an hour later, a group of locals came in and and they occupied a bunch girls as they bought a bunch of bottles.
Took her up to the room for the first round and she did a pretty good job. Since I had spent the Weekend with another girl from Scandello, I was able to last a longer time, and she had the stamina to keep going till I finally came. Room cost was 260. Her service was BBBJ and CFS with no anal.
I went back downstairs and we got something to eat while I talked with the ISG brother who met up with me in SP all weekend.
Went out for round two with the same girl approx 1. 5 hrs later and it took even longer for me to come. She kept up and took it like a champ, till I finally came. We headed back downstairs and we finished off the bottle, bid my friend goodbye and headed for the airport.
Downstairs, I paid the bill, grabbed my bags, change my clothes in the downstairs bathroom and got in my Uber to the airport slightly drunk and completely spent.
The girl told me that they have three shifts 1-8 pm, 6-2 pm and 8-5 am or something similar (I don't remember the exact hours). Usually girls come in at the start of the shift. If you want to avoid the 700 cover, best time to come in would be around 530 to 630. This way you would see the girls from the first shift and you'll get to see the girls coming in for the second shift and maybe even the third shift if you stay long enough.
I left for the airport at 815 pm, checked in and through immigration in approximately 20 minutes. Since I have status with AA and flying business class, this was easy. I don't know how long it would take if you didn't have status or flying in economy.
Scandello turned out to be a fun afternoon!!
The Critic
07-19-23, 10:06
The girl told me that they have three shifts 1-8 pm, 6-2 pm and 8-5 am or something similar (I don't remember the exact hours). Usually girls come in at the start of the shift. If you want to avoid the 700 cover, best time to come in would be around 530 to 630. This way you would see the girls from the first shift and you'll get to see the girls coming in for the second shift and maybe even the third shift if you stay long enough.Has the cover (entrance fee) increased to R700 or was that a special "entertainment / show event" fee charge or just a typo on your part? Can anyone confirm the regular after 7 PM Entry Fee?
Houston Player
07-19-23, 11:46
Has the cover (entrance fee) increased to R700 or was that a special "entertainment / show event" fee charge or just a typo on your part? Can anyone confirm the regular after 7 PM Entry Fee?500 yesterday.
Steve 9696
07-19-23, 13:22
Went to Scandello on a Monday afternoon around 2 pm as I had to check out of the hotel and my flight was at 10:30 PM to come back home.
I took my suitcase and my backpack with me to Scandello. Before entry they thoroughly check your bags. Entry was 300 all consumable, and they have a space to store your luggage. It is very secure and you can leave all your valuables with them. They even gave me a Brazilian charging plug my iPhone cable so I could charge it inside the club.
Upon entry the restaurant, small patio and the bar is open. Everything else is closed. There were about 15 to 20 girls walking around and they ranged from 6. 5-8. 5.
I was the only client at that time, so all the girls came and sat where I was on the patio so that I could get a good look at them. I ended up buying a bottle of gin since I was going to be there for at least six hours and found a 22 year old spinner to join me for drinks. Approximately an hour later, a group of locals came in and and they occupied a bunch girls as they bought a bunch of bottles.
Took her up to the room for the first round and she did a pretty good job. Since I had spent the Weekend with another girl from Scandello, I was able to last a longer time, and she had the stamina to keep going till I finally came. Room cost was 260. Her service was BBBJ and CFS with no anal.
I went back downstairs and we got something to eat while I talked with the ISG brother who met up with me in SP all weekend.
Went out for round two with the same girl approx 1. 5 hrs later and it took even longer for me to come. She kept up and took it like a champ, till I finally came. We headed back downstairs and we finished off the bottle, bid my friend goodbye and headed for the airport.
Downstairs, I paid the bill, grabbed my bags, change my clothes in the downstairs bathroom and got in my Uber to the airport slightly drunk and completely spent.
The girl told me that they have three shifts 1-8 pm, 6-2 pm and 8-5 am or something similar (I don't remember the exact hours). Usually girls come in at the start of the shift. If you want to avoid the 700 cover, best time to come in would be around 530 to 630. This way you would see the girls from the first shift and you'll get to see the girls coming in for the second shift and maybe even the third shift if you stay long enough.
I left for the airport at 815 pm, checked in and through immigration in approximately 20 minutes. Since I have status with AA and flying business class, this was easy. I don't know how long it would take if you didn't have status or flying in economy.
Scandello turned out to be a fun afternoon!!Love how you roll man. Two pops at the best club in the world before your flight. I am the same way. Can never squeeze in enough hotties. Tired? Spent? Fucked out? Yeah but always room for one more experience! Bring it on!
Has the cover (entrance fee) increased to R700 or was that a special "entertainment / show event" fee charge or just a typo on your part? Can anyone confirm the regular after 7 PM Entry Fee?Sorry. Got confused. I haven't been to Dcandello at night since April and forgot what the cover was.
The Critic
07-19-23, 23:45
500 yesterday.Whew!! Good!! Thanks for the update!
P.S. The girls don't care if a customer pays them in cash out of his pocket in the room after sex or the customer's credit card is charged at the front desk for the girl's service fee by the Scandallo hotel reception which then hands the cash to the girl before the two of you go to your room.Thanks for the info. Based on this and other reports, it seems the girls will accept being paid after the service in the room, without insisting on being paid up front.
Is the standard service typically single pop in the hour? Is BBBJ & DATY included in the standard service?
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Among the Clinicas I have seen in this forum, I am considering the following for my 5 Day trip in Sept: Prime, Abbobora, Palms, Ora Spa, Tag Mahal, Tangara.
My type is thin-average, young (19-27), 5'3-5'7, and facially pretty. I am not into the big butt or porno look (heavy, botox lips, goth tattoo look), if this helps.
Out of these Clinica choices above, are there some you would strongly not recommend or vice versa?
Thanks, will report on my journey and experience post Sept. I do plan to go to Scandello, and I'm considering other Boates too as I have read that Scandello prices have shot up (and just good to have a choices and see for yourself).
Axel Heyst
07-20-23, 13:27
Thanks for the info. Based on this and other reports, it seems the girls will accept being paid after the service in the room, without insisting on being paid up front.
Is the standard service typically single pop in the hour? Is BBBJ & DATY included in the standard service?Paying after service is performed is the default at Scandallo and Bomboa. Girls can be paid in advance, but only when a customer chooses to use his credit card to pay for a girl's service instead of cash. I usually bring enough cash to the boate to pay for a girl and I like to put all other expenses on the credit card, but on certain occasions I will find myself short of cash if I decide to have a 2nd girl. That is when the flexibility to charge a girl's service fee comes in real handy.
Passionate DFK, multiple BBBJ's and DATY (up to me) and a whole lot more are all a part of the "standard boate service. " But as always, YMMV, which is why the interview, ie the audition, ie the initial get acquainted drink phase of the relationship is so important, but overall great service is what I expect from all my boate girls and I am seldom disappointed. Service is set for one hour. Most girls are real obliging and will do multiple shots. Going a little into overtime is not a problem.
Just got back from Clinica prime. This was my first session since arriving from rio. If this is any representation of the girls of sao paolo, I have to say the difference in quality of girls between rio and sao paolo is like night and day. There were about 7 or 8 girls there, 3 of which I would say were doable for me. Ranging from 5 - 7. I took a session with Alysee. Not sure if that's exactly how you pronounce her name. She was a short, maybe brunette with a girl next door smile. The lady at the desk told me I could only have 30 minutes because she had a booked appointment coming soon. Fine, that's all I wanted anyways. Went into the first room on the left as instructed, and alysee soon followed a few minutes later. Honesty, on closer inspection she had a bit too much makeup on for me and obviously long fake lashes, so I knocked her rating down mentally to a 6. 5. She had a very business like attitude and took a shower first. I took a shower afterwards. She asked me where I was from and that was pretty much all the pre talk. She came close to me and started kissing me with strong lips, not DFK, but nice none the less. She stroked me as I stroked her shaven pussy. I motioned towards the bed and laid on my back and she immediately began oral, pretty good oral in fact, but felt like it was all part of the routine, couldn't have been more than a minute of BBBJ and she reached for the condom. After putting the condom, without prompting she assumed doggie position on all fours. Great. She knows what to do. I entered and man, she had one of those puffy pussies. I don't know if its just a correlation but all the puffy pussies I've tried have been incredible. Maybe its the extra puffy flesh outside that gives us more friction. It was heavenly. We went through a few different positions. Missionary, reverse cowboy. Interestingly, when in missionary, she didn't want to kiss me, turing her head to the side. Odd, because at the beginning she seemed really into kissing. I finished at the 15 minute mark quite happily. Afterwards, I asked her how long she had been working there. My luck, today was her last day working, and tomorrow she'll go back to curatiba. Best 200 reales I've spent in a while.
SamaRiding
07-21-23, 00:53
Just got back from Clinica prime. This was my first session since arriving from rio. If this is any representation of the girls of sao paolo, I have to say the difference in quality of girls between rio and sao paolo is like night and day. There were about 7 or 8 girls there, 3 of which I would say were doable for me. Ranging from 5 - 7. I took a session with Alysee. Not sure if that's exactly how you pronounce her name. She was a short, maybe brunette with a girl next door smile. The lady at the desk told me I could only have 30 minutes because she had a booked appointment coming soon. Fine, that's all I wanted anyways. Went into the first room on the left as instructed, and alysee soon followed a few minutes later. Honesty, on closer inspection she had a bit too much makeup on for me and obviously long fake lashes, so I knocked her rating down mentally to a 6. 5. She had a very business like attitude and took a shower first. I took a shower afterwards. She asked me where I was from and that was pretty much all the pre talk. She came close to me and started kissing me with strong lips, not DFK, but nice none the less. She stroked me as I stroked her shaven pussy. I motioned towards the bed and laid on my back and she immediately began oral, pretty good oral in fact, but felt like it was all part of the routine, couldn't have been more than a minute of BBBJ and she reached for the condom. After putting the condom, without prompting she assumed doggie position on all fours. Great. She knows what to do. I entered and man, she had one of those puffy pussies. I don't know if its just a correlation but all the puffy pussies I've tried have been incredible. Maybe its the extra puffy flesh outside that gives us more friction. It was heavenly. We went through a few different positions. Missionary, reverse cowboy. Interestingly, when in missionary, she didn't want to kiss me, turing her head to the side. Odd, because at the beginning she seemed really into kissing. I finished at the 15 minute mark quite happily. Afterwards, I asked her how long she had been working there. My luck, today was her last day working, and tomorrow she'll go back to curatiba. Best 200 reales I've spent in a while.The way I read it sounded like a mediocre session to me! Glad you enjoyed it. But there are definitely better sessions with hotter girls to be had in SP. The clinicas girls rush thru a 30 minutes session. The girls actually appreciate 60 minutes since many locals guys just do 30 minutes. And it's more relaxed pace and it's assumed you have time for 2 shots with one hour. What happened in Rio?
Prime, Abbobora, Palms, Ora Spa, Tag Mahal, Tangara.
My type is thin-average, young (19-27), 5'3-5'7, and facially pretty.
My small sample size (I have similar tastes), Prime had a few that fit the profile more than Tangara in early April. Didn't visit the others yet.
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GiuseppeBonera
07-21-23, 14:11
I was planning on going to Sao Paulo this year but prices (flight hotel) are just rediculous. Still I miss scandallo and the legendary nights I have had. It got me thinking is there anywhere in the world quite like scandallo?
Just for context I am 33 and limited mongering experience. Also being married for some of those mongering years slowed me down a bit. Still I was able to check out places through Brasil, Colombia Mexico and Germany (just Munich). And the following are compatible but just don't meet the bar set by scandallo in my opinion.
Sao Paulo.
Years ago was at caf FOTO. Yes quality of girls were comparable but prices were not, nor was the quantity of girls. Also no rooms in the place had to go to hotel.
Bamboa has some comparable quality girls but new location so small don't think you can fit all the girls let alone customers on a given night at scandallo.
All other clubs I have been to (casarao, Bahamas etc.) only a handful of quality girls.
Campinas.
Only thing close to scandallo is fazendinha But in the middle of nowhere and quality and quantity varies depending on the day.
Porto alegre.
Gruta azul higher end girls with a lower price but again not enough girls. Tia Carmen also had some gems but the place a little trashy. Domino even more trashy..I posted this while ago and wanted to made an update as well a correction:
First the correction in Medellin instead of Luna lunera I meant to say la isla. I was just in Medellin last month and visited Luna luna lunera and was not great granted went later in the night than I should have. La isla is still the best quality and quantity of girls in Medellin I even gave fase II another try actually was worse this time. Second I have since been to Thailand, Cali, Rio, and Tijuana, and will update with venues I previously left out of the last post. The objective is compare posible alternatives to Scandallo (spoiler there are none that match up IMO):
Cali.
Since the last post I have visited Cali twice and two clubs stand out:
Tangas luxury.
This one has an extremely high quality level of girls however very expensive to Cali standards you cannot take a girl out of the place for less than 1 M COP. Not sure of the room rates but not my thing. I probably did not go on peak time but the place is 24 hours. At 10-11 PM there were 15 + and counting but I took out two 9 and a 10 looks wise. This place has potential to rival the quality of scandallo but will need review again I will probably go again to Cali in a few months and give an update. But will never have close to the quantity of girls in scandallo.
Club escoces.
Another place in Cali that can rival the quality but not quantity. I don't think there will ever be much more than 10 girls in the place given the size but quality is on par and price is obviously lower. Worth checking out if in Cali for sure.
Bangkok.
Thermae.
This place is probably my second favorite venue in the world mostly because of the objectiveness of the place and also low cost for high quality looks of the girls. I have taken 5 total girls from here and all have been 8 or above in terms of service and looks. This is the only place I will note in Thailand because most of the gogo bars have small quantity of girls and all seem to be the same maybe give crezy horse a shout out as they had a good level of quality girls you can see nude to make an informed decision. Clubs like mix and levels have both pros and non pros and involves too much work for me. But overall I think thermae tops my list.
Tijuana.
Hong Kong is probably the one place where you can say the quantity and quality looks wise matches up with scandallo however service is no guarantee. I did have a GFE BBBJ that apparently is rare. While she was great she would not go to my hotel and only sessioned in the motel next to Hong Kong. Also cost for two hours was similar to what I would pay for all night with a scandallo girl. Concept here is different and definitely a lot of eye candy to look at but I found to be expensive to take any girl to the room. I also tried Chicago and a few other clubs in zona norte but Hong Kong is the best. Only recommend if in Tijuana there are plenty of better options in south America for sure.
Rio.
Finally visited 4 X4 twice on my visit to Rio. It meets the expectations set and has a similar feel to scandallo with less girls and not all a the high quality you can expect at scandallo. I did get a 10 in terms of service and looks and repeated with her. Second time I went did not session. Will go back for sure. Also checked out whiskeria 65 and revisited Centaurus that was not that great and also expensive. But 4 X 4 is the best place in Rio and one of the best places in the world for me.
Overall Ranking:
Given these updates I have decided to rank based on my preference of the places I have been granted I have not yet been to Frankfurt to check out the DFK clubs this is pending conclusion scandalo is by far number one on my list:
1- Scandalo. Sao Paulo.
2- Thermae. Bangkok.
3- 4 X 4 - Rio de Janeiro.
4 - Casarao. Sao Paulo.
5 - Tangas Luxury. Cali.
6 - Bahamas-Sao Paulo.
7 - Lido. Bogota.
8 - Bomboa. Sao Paulo.
9 - La Isla. Medellin.
10 - Gruta azul. Porto Alegre.
11- Tia Carmen. Porto Alegre.
12- Fase II. Medellin.
13 - Hong Kong. Tijuana.
14 - Escoces. Cali.
15- Fazendinha. Campinas.
Other notable places I was too lazy to rank this is not in order:
Crazy horse (Bangkok).
All girls nude and could probably break this 15 list but a different concept.
Galo de Ouro (itatinga-Campinas).
The best girls in itatinga but high probably of being scammed robbed or not a great session overall. Run by the Brazilian cartels would not recommend for a tourist (I am Brazilian).
Mustache (campinas).
A bar in the middle of cambui only a few girls and high prices to take out. Basicaly a strip club where the girls play some tease games and you can take out. Has been many years since I went but would prefer fazendinha for quality and quantity.
New locomotion (Missassauga Canada).
Cafe foto (Sao Paulo).
Villa roma (Munich).
Very expensive I think I paid 500+ euros for an hour threesome hot but not worth the price.
Ceasars world / Leierkasten / and Vitalia (Munich).
These places are laufhauses basically apartments the girls rent and you can just do them in there rooms. Did a couple of times most girls don't give BBBJ none or few give GFE and I tried twice ok but at 100 Euros for 30 minutes not my go to.
Ipanema (Singapore).
Pretty trashy place in the mall chose the best girl there but was a 6 at best but service was poor.
New Sagitarious (Belo Horizonte).
Probably on par with gruta azul in PA but would not go to belo just for this place girl I got was a 10 however.
Domino (Porto Alegre).
Lots of girls but low quality would have to stay for a while to find a gem. Pretty trashy place.
Luna Lunera (Medellin).
I will have to check out again at a more peak time. Layout of the club has potential but don't like to cover charge and minimum spend requirement.
My issue with the girl fees at Scandallo is that once a girl steps in her rates has a minimum. Last time I was there a few weeks ago, I saw all ranges of girls. From stunners, average, ordinary, girl next door, midgets and girls I wouldn't be caught dead with. But no matter how bad looking or fugly, she has a minimum rate of 500. Price structure doesn't favour clients. You will always pay more than elsewhere. Price of the worst looking girl in club is equal to a stunner online.
I share your curiosity since I have experienced two price (entrance) hikes. However, the entrance fee is not much my concern due to the consumable portion. Now the Talent rates that is another story. I can understand them trying to make a living but sometimes I just laugh at some of the quotes I have received. Overall, I try to have fun and see what my budget gets me. I do like AxelHeyst's cost strategy.
As I remember it Abbobora (330) cost nearly twice as much as Prime (200). Abbobora has nicer rooms than Prime and generally more attractive girls. I would not say the Abbobora girls are nearly twice as attractive as their Prime counterparts.
My small sample size (I have similar tastes), Prime had a few that fit the profile more than Tangara in early April. Didn't visit the others yet.
The way I read it sounded like a mediocre session to me! Glad you enjoyed it. But there are definitely better sessions with hotter girls to be had in SP. The clinicas girls rush thru a 30 minutes session. The girls actually appreciate 60 minutes since many locals guys just do 30 minutes. And it's more relaxed pace and it's assumed you have time for 2 shots with one hour. What happened in Rio?For me personally, the quality of the women in rio was terribly disappointing. I stayed in centro. Went to 4 x4, 6 times over the course of a couple of weeks. Went to 502 5 times, went to VM 2 times. Hit up the 2 clubs that Vagabundo always talks about. In summary, there are some decent looking women there, but most are ugly, fat, too old or any combination of the above. I did session 2 times at 4 x4, with some decent looking women, but I'm very quick, and I don't particularly like sitting around with the girls chatting after screwing, especially since my portuguese is bad. So I'm paying 400 reales for a a 30 minute session, with a decent girl, not a 9, or stunner, I'd say a hard 7. A good looking fuckable girl. For me even these were hard to find. They were there but not in abundance. I also had some bad experiences with some girls that had rave reviews on gparena. Ok, not bad experiences, but their looks left much to be desired, they girls I've found actually try really hard to please. It was just hard to get over how unattractive they were to me. I didn't venture down to copacobana so others may have a better time down there. I am also not into fat women, nor negritas, so that probably has something to do with it as well. So take that into consideration.
Axel Heyst
07-21-23, 18:13
As I remember it Abbobora (330) cost nearly twice as much as Prime (200). Abbobora has nicer rooms than Prime and generally more attractive girls. I would not say the Abbobora girls are nearly twice as attractive as their Prime counterparts.I prefer Abboboro to Prime. Over many SP trips, including my most recent May / June trip, I consistently seem to have more fun at Abboboro than at Prime and I find Abboboro girls are on average more attractive. Factoid: I went to Abboboro 5 times while I only went to Prime one time this last trip.
Interestingly, it was during my last trip, that Abboboro management started doing something new: Customers always had to pay the full price of 350 br for 60 minutes in advance at Abboboro, but now the girl at the front desk takes the girl's cut, 200 br, out of the total payment and places the money on the nightstand next to the bed in the assigned room. The girl is allowed to take the cash left for her when the session is over. I first experienced this bifurcated payment method at high-end SP clinicas like the Palm, Lotus Lounge and Sharon Premium. I like it because it emphasizes to the girls exactly where the cake is coming from and who they should take good care of.
Here is the SP price comparison: 1. A regular clinica like Abboboro, 200 goes to the girl / 150 to the house. 2. a high end clinical like the Palm, 350 to the girl (customers pay the girl directly after the session ends) / 400 to the house or in total 2 x the Abboboro price. 3. Scandallo or Bomboa with a tier 2 girl, 700 to 800 for the girl, 500 to the house, and 240 (approximately) for a room or exit fee to take the girl out of the club. Call it 1500 total or 2 x the Palm price.
The way I read it sounded like a mediocre session to me! Glad you enjoyed it. But there are definitely better sessions with hotter girls to be had in SP. The clinicas girls rush thru a 30 minutes session. The girls actually appreciate 60 minutes since many locals guys just do 30 minutes. And it's more relaxed pace and it's assumed you have time for 2 shots with one hour. What happened in Rio?Yes it does sound like a mediocre session doesn't it! LOL. I think technically you're right, but it was a sigh of relief after rio for me. Visually just much more attractive than most of the experiences I had in rio, which I'll write about later, but haven't gotten around to it just yet. And physically, she fit me really well. If you know what I mean. She had this giant tattoo on her back, which I loved looking at in doggie style.
Axel Heyst
07-21-23, 22:24
For me personally, the quality of the women in rio was terribly disappointing. I stayed in centro. Went to 4 x4, 6 times over the course of a couple of weeks. Went to 502 5 times, went to VM 2 times. Hit up the 2 clubs that Vagabundo always talks about. In summary, there are some decent looking women there, but most are ugly, fat, too old or any combination of the above. I did session 2 times at 4 x4, with some decent looking women, but I'm very quick, and I don't particularly like sitting around with the girls chatting after screwing, especially since my portuguese is bad. So I'm paying 400 reales for a a 30 minute session, with a decent girl, not a 9, or stunner, I'd say a hard 7. A good looking fuckable girl. For me even these were hard to find. They were there but not in abundance. I also had some bad experiences with some girls that had rave reviews on gparena. Ok, not bad experiences, but their looks left much to be desired, they girls I've found actually try really hard to please. It was just hard to get over how unattractive they were to me. I didn't venture down to copacobana so others may have a better time down there. I am also not into fat women, nor negritas, so that probably has something to do with it as well. So take that into consideration.There is a never-ending debate on this web site and on the RJ site about which town has better mongering. It is a given that one can find good looking girls in both towns, so the real question is where is the hunting best? The problem, however, in this highly subjective debate is that everybody has a right to their opinion no matter how cracked in the head their opinion might be. LOL. .
Oh well. You will survive your tip to RJ. But next time check out Sao Paulo and rely on BM's with similar tastes and spending constraints as your own. I think you will find that SP clinicas are nicer and have better looking girls than RJ Prive's. And nothing in RJ is in the same league as SP's top 3 Boates. But the obvious downside is that SP girls and bordellos are generally more expensive than the ones in RJ and SP does not have a beach.
As I remember it Abbobora (330) cost nearly twice as much as Prime (200). Abbobora has nicer rooms than Prime and generally more attractive girls. I would not say the Abbobora girls are nearly twice as attractive as their Prime counterparts.What type of girls do you like? I prefer the slim / spinner types.
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DonCarlos1234
07-22-23, 00:00
For me personally, the quality of the women in rio was terribly disappointing. I stayed in centro. Went to 4 x4, 6 times over the course of a couple of weeks. Went to 502 5 times, went to VM 2 times. Hit up the 2 clubs that Vagabundo always talks about. In summary, there are some decent looking women there, but most are ugly, fat, too old or any combination of the above. I did session 2 times at 4 x4, with some decent looking women, but I'm very quick, and I don't particularly like sitting around with the girls chatting after screwing, especially since my portuguese is bad. So I'm paying 400 reales for a a 30 minute session, with a decent girl, not a 9, or stunner, I'd say a hard 7. A good looking fuckable girl. For me even these were hard to find. They were there but not in abundance. I also had some bad experiences with some girls that had rave reviews on gparena. Ok, not bad experiences, but their looks left much to be desired, they girls I've found actually try really hard to please. It was just hard to get over how unattractive they were to me. I didn't venture down to copacobana so others may have a better time down there. I am also not into fat women, nor negritas, so that probably has something to do with it as well. So take that into consideration.It's over, NO it's just beginning. Some offers are actually a better value than you might think.
Only settle for quality vs. Anything else.
There are a few guys here (some I know like Kazeu) that actually know what an 8 or 10 is and what is not. I know a lot of you just want a quick fuck. Fine, Not my interest. I think / hope Sao Paulo / Rio is for more discerning travelers.
I just read GiuseppeBonera post. That he rated HKTJ as comparable to Scandallo in some areas. LOL. I thought so! Captain Solo will like hearing that. Before ISG came on my radar, I lived there.
Last couple days I have been messaging online high end escort / models web sites in Brazil, I get quotes as high as brl $3000 and as low as brl 500. They are 9's and 10's (by what they look like online) I think there's a trend here.
I'm screening out anything and everyone that does not offer an 8-10 AND appear to want to "please" the guys they meet. In person at clubs etc and walk away if they are online catfish. Thank you Kazu, GiuseppeBonera, HiddenEye, Elvis, Nounce, DramaFree11, Captain Solo, Steve 9696, Miami Boy1, The Cane, xyztravel, Chicago85 and more. Your tastes are no doubt all different but you have given your insights and it is very much appreciated.
Some things become a blurr. I had to ask my driver in Medellin if I had visited lunalunera he said yes but you turned around and walked out. YEP that's what we do.
So just got my first crazy escort story.
I setup an appointment with a girl name "Hanna". When she came she was not the girl in the picture (I would have still fucked her) BUT she demanded payment first I refused and we argued a bit with google translator. I offered to pay for her Uber and have her leave. ***** went crazy and tried to take my laptop threatening to drop it if I didn't pay. I tried to get it back. She ran for the door, dropping my laptop on the way. I managed to get her out the room but she went ape shit and took the fire extinguisher and continued to bang on the door breaking the smart lock and door in the process. The hotel staff was unaware and she left before they realized what had happened. This costed me 1500 reis for the damages. When the fuck would have just been 300 reis LOL. Sad. LOL.
I am just glad she didn't have a knife or gun or something. 100% crazy *****. Be warned guys.
Might be the last time I call an escort to my place. I will just stuck to the clubs and massage spas from now on.
This is the first time in 10 years a girl have actually caused me major problems.
As I remember it Abbobora (330) cost nearly twice as much as Prime (200)....I think 330 is for 60 minutes while 200 is the new rate for 30 minutes without discount.
.... But no matter how bad looking or fugly, she has a minimum rate of 500. ....It can go lower for an above average looking girl. We are conditioned by the price mentioned but that is not the minimum.
Just got one of the worse experience with a girl from photoacompanhantes.
Her page isn't up anymore but this is her fake skokka https://br.skokka.com/acompanhantes/osasco/micheli-gatinha-dos-seus-sonhos-br1a3vhmj/.
The girl that arrived was not the same girl but she asked for payment first. I refused and offered to pay for her Uber to leave.
She wanted the full amount even though I didn't even touch her.
When I asked her to leave she tried to break my laptop. Once I got her out of my room she broke the smart lock in my hotel door forcing me to pay 1500 Reis to replace it.
Horrible girl and horrible person. I learned my lesson.
PLEASE AVOID.
Some notes for newbs. I guess I am one too LOL. I just got careless and too horny and wasn't thinking straight.
* Don't give the her your room number. Always say that you will meet her in the lobby. I have noticed that if you give the girl your room number she will just show up at the door and it will make it harder to get her to leave even she is cat fishing.
* ALWAYS search the number on gp-guia.net first to see if you get any hits first. I got lazy here.
* Don't be girls to your apartment. It is a lot safer at hotels where there are more procedures in place for these kind of things.
* Just find a girl in a club or massage. Really. Having a girl in your apartment is fun, but you are also taking a big risk since some of them might be crazy as fuck.
... I booked a model for a sexy shoot, didn't know she was actually an escort. ...
I made the definitive question "voce faz programa?" (are you a working girl? And she said yes, I do. (sim eu faco programa) and of course I made the immediate proposal..,Great report but I think you already secretly hoped this would happen.
Thermae.
This place is probably my second favorite venue in the world mostly because of the objectiveness of the place and also low cost for high quality looks of the girls....But overall I think thermae tops my list.
.I am not disagreeing with you. I am just surprised that you rank it the second above many other places in Brazil and I like it, LOL. I think few would dare to rebuke you since you are Brazilian, hehe. Baccara at Cowboy has pretty large quantity of girls, and is easier to find better looking girls but cost quite a bit more.
Last couple days I have been messaging online high end escort / models web sites in Brazil, I get quotes as high as brl $3000 and as low as brl 500. They are 9's and 10's (by what they look like online) I think there's a trend here.
I doubt a true 9 or 10 would quote you 500 reals, but if she does, this is a no brainer then. I would not rely on the photos you see online, especially on escort websites (in any country), because they are heavily edited, and also, bait and switch is common. Heck, some guys meet girls that they saw online with faces blurred, and wonder why a crocodile showed up. Your best bet is Scandallo, or any high end club or high end terma. SA sucks in Brazil. I would skip escort websites entirely, unless you like to gamble or waste your time.
I heard MeuPatrocinio is a popular alternative to Seeking in Brazil, supposed to be the largest sugar dating app in Brazil, but I haven't tried it, so can't vouch for it. Give it a try and report back
Well, hope is a fantastic thing!
In the case of this brunette, she didn't show many pink flags. Some other times the escort-o-meter shines!!
LOL.
Great report but I think you already secretly hoped this would happen.
SamaRiding
07-22-23, 04:56
I doubt a true 9 or 10 would quote you 500 reals, but if she does, this is a no brainer then. I would not rely on the photos you see online, especially on escort websites (in any country), because they are heavily edited, and also, bait and switch is common. Heck, some guys meet girls that they saw online with faces blurred, and wonder why a crocodile showed up. Your best bet is Scandallo, or any high end club or high end terma. SA sucks in Brazil. I would skip escort websites entirely, unless you like to gamble For the top SP escort websites, clubmodel, mclass, SPLove and private55, it's most often the same girl since the girl needs to pay to be on these sites and the sites do some certifying. Of course heavy photoshopping is common and old photos can happen. You should also cross check in gpguia for reviews and prioritize those with positive reviews.
I've been going to SP for more than 2 years now and I've seen girls start off in the clinicas (getting 100 r) or on PA charging 200 r to advertising 700-800 r on the high end sites. Competition is high in SP and new girls have to start off low before they get a local following and confidence to charge higher prices.
Well, hope is a fantastic thing!
In the case of this brunette, she didn't show many pink flags. Some other times the escort-o-meter shines!!
LOL.I found a huge group based on what you said. LOL.
SamaRiding
07-22-23, 05:34
but it was a sigh of relief after rio for me. Visually just much more attractive than most of the experiences I had in rio, which I'll write about later, but haven't gotten around to it just yet. Sounds like you are in São Paulo camp! I prefer the diversity of girls in SP also. That's why guys should go to both Rio and sp and see what they like. The city experience and girl experience are very different in each city. And every guy has their own preference.
...
Given these updates I have decided to rank based on my preference of the places I have been granted I have not yet been to Frankfurt to check out the DFK clubs this is pending conclusion scandalo is by far number one on my list:
1- Scandalo. Sao Paulo.
2- Thermae. Bangkok.
3- 4 X 4 - Rio de Janeiro.
4 - Casarao. Sao Paulo.
5 - Tangas Luxury. Cali.
6 - Bahamas-Sao Paulo.
7 - Lido. Bogota.
8 - Bomboa. Sao Paulo.
...
I don't want to comment about the list above, except wondering how a place like Thermae in 2023 can even be on the list.
A tip for guys out there who are within short flying distance of Germany and who are into short times with different lookers (rather than into repeats with the same "girlfriendly" girl):
FKK Sharks in Frankfurt, where I was yesterday after not having visited for months, has 8's and 9's who ask for 100 euro for standard service, usually BBBJ + intercourse. That is under 600 real. It is twice the pre-covid rate but it still beats Scandallo's. And the whole experience (girls stark naked on high-heels etc.) is certainly on a par with Scandallo's! If you fly to SP for Scandallo only, consider flying to Germany for FKKs Sharks and a few other FKKs as an alternative. I'm posting this as a quick tip to Sao Paulo aficionados, not in order to derail the thread.
I don't want to comment about the list above, except wondering how a place like Thermae in 2023 can even be on the list.
A tip for guys out there who are within short flying distance of Germany and who are into short times with different lookers (rather than into repeats with the same "girlfriendly" girl):
FKK Sharks in Frankfurt, where I was yesterday after not having visited for months, has 8's and 9's who ask for 100 euro for standard service, usually BBBJ + intercourse. That is under 600 real. It is twice the pre-covid rate but it still beats Scandallo's. And the whole experience (girls stark naked on high-heels etc.) is certainly on a par with Scandallo's! If you fly to SP for Scandallo only, consider flying to Germany for FKKs Sharks and a few other FKKs as an alternative. I'm posting this as a quick tip to Sao Paulo aficionados, not in order to derail the thread.The attitude of girls in FKK can't be compared to that of clubs in Brazil. So called 9's and 10's in FFK's have this aloof and don't want to work attitude. Yo can't compare the passion and energy of Brazil to Germany. Also good looking FFK girls now look for clients who pay 200 E for 1 HR clients. One of the reasons I have reduced frequenting Germany.
GiuseppeBonera
07-22-23, 14:05
I am not disagreeing with you. I am just surprised that you rank it the second above many other places in Brazil and I like it, LOL. I think few would dare to rebuke you since you are Brazilian, hehe. Baccara at Cowboy has pretty large quantity of girls, and is easier to find better looking girls but cost quite a bit more.Thanks I will check out baccara next time in Bangkok! I went to Bangkok shortly after reopening not everything was full swing. I ranked thermae high given the no BS concept and number and % of good looking girls in a small space. I do need to revisit Thailand as a whole as I went for the first time last year and lots of trial and error. Now I know the ropes I can focus in on the best places.
Overall service of brasileiras is no match for anywhere in the world maybe rivaled by Colombia. Not sure if this is due to me being local and fluent in Spanish and Portuguese. My biggest issue when traveling to non Portuguese / Spanish speaking countries where there is some loss of translations for girls with English as a second language so service may lack. If I were to rank based solely on service my top five would be solely Brazilian places LOL.
You can drop that image of her from skokka into google image search and discover that its a picture of some instagram model named Sara Orrego. Maybe something to try in the future.
Just got one of the worse experience with a girl from photoacompanhantes.
Her page isn't up anymore but this is her fake skokka https://br.skokka.com/acompanhantes/osasco/micheli-gatinha-dos-seus-sonhos-br1a3vhmj/.
The girl that arrived was not the same girl but she asked for payment first. I refused and offered to pay for her Uber to leave.
She wanted the full amount even though I didn't even touch her.
When I asked her to leave she tried to break my laptop. Once I got her out of my room she broke the smart lock in my hotel door forcing me to pay 1500 Reis to replace it.
Horrible girl and horrible person. I learned my lesson.
PLEASE AVOID.
Some notes for newbs. I guess I am one too LOL. I just got careless and too horny and wasn't thinking straight.
* Don't give the her your room number. Always say that you will meet her in the lobby. I have noticed that if you give the girl your room number she will just show up at the door and it will make it harder to get her to leave even she is cat fishing.
* ALWAYS search the number on gp-guia.net first to see if you get any hits first. I got lazy here.
* Don't be girls to your apartment. It is a lot safer at hotels where there are more procedures in place for these kind of things.
* Just find a girl in a club or massage. Really. Having a girl in your apartment is fun, but you are also taking a big risk since some of them might be crazy as fuck.
I heard MeuPatrocinio is a popular alternative to Seeking in BrazilThey have a lot more of model types in SP on MP vs Seeking, but like you, I haven't actually tried it out (only heard of 3rd degree success).
Definitely a lot of work to get to the goal line, but sounds like DC is willing to do the work!
F.
DonCarlos1234
07-23-23, 01:27
For me personally, the quality of the women in rio was terribly disappointing. I stayed in centro. Went to 4 x4, 6 times over the course of a couple of weeks. Went to 502 5 times, went to VM 2 times. Hit up the 2 clubs that Vagabundo always talks about. In summary, there are some decent looking women there, but most are ugly, fat, too old or any combination of the above. I did session 2 times at 4 x4, with some decent looking women, but I'm very quick, and I don't particularly like sitting around with the girls chatting after screwing, especially since my portuguese is bad. So I'm paying 400 reales for a a 30 minute session, with a decent girl, not a 9, or stunner, I'd say a hard 7. A good looking fuckable girl. For me even these were hard to find. They were there but not in abundance. I also had some bad experiences with some girls that had rave reviews on gparena. Ok, not bad experiences, but their looks left much to be desired, they girls I've found actually try really hard to please. It was just hard to get over how unattractive they were to me. I didn't venture down to copacobana so others may have a better time down there. I am also not into fat women, nor negritas, so that probably has something to do with it as well. So take that into consideration.
They have a lot more of model types in SP on MP vs Seeking, but like you, I haven't actually tried it out (only heard of 3rd degree success).
Definitely a lot of work to get to the goal line, but sounds like DC is willing to do the work!
F.SA in Colombia was so successful I ad to turn it off. (OK they stopped me, LOL) I still have contacts I never had time to even message let alone meet. In 3 months time. And I did meet 10's there. Nice, intelligent people. Still in touch. If meupatrocinio is even 25% as good as SA in Colombia, well it will be worth the time. Thanks guys, I forgot I was going to sign up but got distracted. Meanwhile it's beginning to seem that I will visit Rio maybe only 2-3 nights. 10 nights Sao Paulo .. Depends on who I meet an if they want to travel. MiamiBoy1.
To each his own. I would take Rio over SP any day, My last trip to Brazil was for a fortnight, split 7 days in Rio and SP. I increased my stay in Rio and cut the stay in SP and didn't regret it. You should have stepped out of centro to Copa and elsewhere.
For me personally, the quality of the women in rio was terribly disappointing. I stayed in centro. Went to 4 x4, 6 times over the course of a couple of weeks. Went to 502 5 times, went to VM 2 times. Hit up the 2 clubs that Vagabundo always talks about. In summary, there are some decent looking women there, but most are ugly, fat, too old or any combination of the above. I did session 2 times at 4 x4, with some decent looking women, but I'm very quick, and I don't particularly like sitting around with the girls chatting after screwing, especially since my portuguese is bad. So I'm paying 400 reales for a a 30 minute session, with a decent girl, not a 9, or stunner, I'd say a hard 7. A good looking fuckable girl. For me even these were hard to find. They were there but not in abundance. I also had some bad experiences with some girls that had rave reviews on gparena. Ok, not bad experiences, but their looks left much to be desired, they girls I've found actually try really hard to please. It was just hard to get over how unattractive they were to me. I didn't venture down to copacobana so others may have a better time down there. I am also not into fat women, nor negritas, so that probably has something to do with it as well. So take that into consideration.
MexicanCuban
07-23-23, 14:29
SA in Colombia was so successful I ad to turn it off. (OK they stopped me, LOL) I still have contacts I never had time to even message let alone meet. In 3 months time. And I did meet 10's there. Nice, intelligent people. Still in touch. If meupatrocinio is even 25% as good as SA in Colombia, well it will be worth the time. Thanks guys, I forgot I was going to sign up but got distracted. Meanwhile it's beginning to seem that I will visit Rio maybe only 2-3 nights. 10 nights Sao Paulo .. Depends on who I meet an if they want to travel. MiamiBoy1.Which town in Colombia did you use SA? Medellin? Bogota? I'm planning to visit Colombia in a couple of months in my way to SaoPaulo but not sure which town of those I should visit.
https://www.gp-guia.net Use Google translate if you don't understand Portuguese.Hi fellas,
Thanks for the link. I tried to find some Asian providers but no luck. Anyone have a good twitter link or anything for legit Japanese / Brazil providers?
Much appreciated!
DonCarlos1234
07-23-23, 22:34
Which town in Colombia did you use SA? Medellin? Bogota? I'm planning to visit Colombia in a couple of months in my way to SaoPaulo but not sure which town of those I should visit.You probably land in Bogota. SA is not cheap and the girls are not exactly into P4 P (some are) but the quality in Bogota is amazing. Seeking takes time. If you have a 2 weeks minimum before you land, it's worth it. You would be fine without if you just want sex. You don't need it.
You mean brazilians of the japanese community?
Try clubs in Liberdade neighborhood for civilians. I met a curvy one in Cafe Photo, tall, curvy japanese brazilian, very interesting if you like a lot of flesh.
You should go to Cafe Photo very early because talent there disappears in matter of minutes. This is why many ISGers don't like that club.
Hi fellas,
Thanks for the link. I tried to find some Asian providers but no luck. Anyone have a good twitter link or anything for legit Japanese / Brazil providers?
Much appreciated!
I prefer Abboboro to Prime. Over many SP trips, including my most recent May / June trip, I consistently seem to have more fun at Abboboro than at Prime and I find Abboboro girls are on average more attractive. Factoid: I went to Abboboro 5 times while I only went to Prime one time this last trip.
Interestingly, it was during my last trip, that Abboboro management started doing something new: Customers always had to pay the full price of 350 br for 60 minutes in advance at Abboboro, but now the girl at the front desk takes the girl's cut, 200 br, out of the total payment and places the money on the nightstand next to the bed in the assigned room. The girl is allowed to take the cash left for her when the session is over. I first experienced this bifurcated payment method at high-end SP clinicas like the Palm, Lotus Lounge and Sharon Premium. I like it because it emphasizes to the girls exactly where the cake is coming from and who they should take good care of.
Here is the SP price comparison: 1. A regular clinica like Abboboro, 200 goes to the girl / 150 to the house. 2. a high end clinical like the Palm, 350 to the girl (customers pay the girl directly after the session ends) / 400 to the house or in total 2 x the Abboboro price. 3. Scandallo or Bomboa with a tier 2 girl, 700 to 800 for the girl, 500 to the house, and 240 (approximately) for a room or exit fee to take the girl out of the club. Call it 1500 total or 2 x the Palm price.Out of the high-end clinicas (palm, Sharon, lotus, taj, Ora), which one has a better roster if you had to choose the top 3? Also, Do they have food or activities in clinicas, else how do you spend time in between sessions?
Axel Heyst
07-24-23, 13:09
Hi fellas,
Thanks for the link. I tried to find some Asian providers but no luck. Anyone have a good twitter link or anything for legit Japanese / Brazil providers?
Much appreciated! Japanese Brazilian girls are scattered all around. You just have to keep your eyes open when you are out hunting. Last trip I enjoyed the company of a perky Japanese Brazilian spinner in Scandallo and an athletic, physically fit Japanese Brazilian girl in the Palm. On previous trips I have met Japanese Brazilian and mixed-race part Japanese girls in Bomboa and Casarao as well.
One word of caution: Japanese Brazilian girls ARE not the same as Japanese Japanese girls. It is not even close. So, if you desire the real thing, go to Japan or pre-Covid go to Macau. Japanese Brazilian girls are Brazilian. Their personalities, their physical bodies, their sexual attitudes are 95% Brazilian which is not a bad thing, but it ain't the same as being with a Japanese Japanese girl. Just saying.
Axel Heyst
07-24-23, 16:18
Out of the high-end clinicas (palm, Sharon, lotus, taj, Ora), which one has a better roster if you had to choose the top 3? Also, Do they have food or activities in clinicas, else how do you spend time in between sessions?I went tp the Palm, Sharon, and Lotus this last trip. My favorite high end clinica was the Palm. I went there 4 times during my last trip. 2 out of my 4 Palm girls were fucking outstanding, boate quality, and absolutely repeat worthy. The 3rd girl was good and had some future potential, and my 4th girl was friendly and nice, but not exactly my type body wise, so I did not click with her. IMHO, the key to success in these high-end clinicas is the ability to pick the right girl from a few visual clues in her heavily photoshopped pics.
Wayne Roberts
07-24-23, 16:36
Japanese Brazilian girls are scattered all around. You just have to keep your eyes open when you are out hunting. Last trip I enjoyed the company of a perky Japanese Brazilian spinner in Scandallo and an athletic, physically fit Japanese Brazilian girl in the Palm. On previous trips I have met Japanese Brazilian and mixed-race part Japanese girls in Bomboa and Casarao as well.
One word of caution: Japanese Brazilian girls ARE not the same as Japanese Japanese girls. It is not even close. So, if you desire the real thing, go to Japan or pre-Covid go to Macau. Japanese Brazilian girls are Brazilian. Their personalities, their physical bodies, their sexual attitudes are 95% Brazilian which is not a bad thing, but it ain't the same as being with a Japanese Japanese girl. Just saying.I'm trying to see the downside.
.... Anyone have a good twitter link or anything for legit Japanese / Brazil providers?...You can try search for kaoani. They tend to know each other so her account will lead you to more, and probably a lot more than Japanese if you know what you are looking for. She is typical of what AH is talking about. There are some mixed race ones that don't look like Asian.
Thanks I will check out baccara next time in Bangkok! I went to Bangkok shortly after reopening not everything was full swing. ....My experience is before COVID. A few things you need to know. This place is setup to get as much money of the customer as they can. It has the best looking girls but more plastic. The gogo will ask for a minimum number of drinks before you take the girls. You may need to go early to get the best looking girls because that is what many Asians do. The service is not that good if you are not a regular so you may spend double of what you spend at Thermae for very little. They may ask you to use their short time room across the street. I mentioned it earlier because it has more girls.
Gold mine it is. I made a visit today. I had heard many bad things about this neighborhood and not knowing what to expect, I left my cell phone at home.
I recognized the building immediately as the building with the "wavey" balconies. Walked right past the guy in front and the two guys at the desk immediately inside like I knew what I was doing. There were stairs on the left and 2 elevators on the right, 1 obviously broken, the other, I never saw anyone use.
I walked all the way to the top, 9th floor. On each floor there are 2 sides, a left side and a right side as you're going up. On a few floors the left side, there was some disco balls lighting up the area. On the right side on each floor there are areas with seating and tables. A saw some guys just sitting around drinking.
The staircase is small and it can be tight going up. I went at around 1:30 in the afternoon and there were plenty of dudes there, just climbing up and down the stairs. In a strange way I felt a sort of comraderie, all suffering the same stairs in search of the same thing.
Now onto the girls. Ok, I am going to say it. I think the talent here was generally better than Bogota santa fe street girls. Especially in recent times. Santa fe of 2019 would edge this place out, but all my recent trips to santa fe have been dissapointing. I excplicity exclude the clubs of santa fe. The santa fe clubs can be much better depeding on the time / day of the week. In 134 I saw about 30 or so girls. I'd say 3 of which I would do.
I ended up with Yasmine from the 6th floor. I asked her how much? She said 50. Lets go. The rooms are small, much smaller than the average santa fe room. No aircon, just a fan. The room reminded me of the room I had sessioned in in VM, just a bit cleaner. There was enough space for a bed and a room to stand. Not much else.
Yasmine turned out to be really nice. Never did I feel like she was trying to pull something on me. She didn't even ask for money up front. She made some small talk and then we both got undressed and got down to it. Her face was not great, maybe a 5, with some acne scarring. But she had a kind smile and a kind personality. It may be hard to understand, since I don't speak portuguese. It was just sort of a sense I got from her.
The sex was quick. A covered BJ. Then some missionary, I liked looking down at her face and her smooth skin with a tattoo under her breasts. Her pussy was a bit on the loose side for me, but I turned her over into doggie, and the view helped me out. I finished fast and was happy with the experience. I thought about getting her whatsacpp but never did. I always tell newer mongers to always get numbers. You never regret getting someones number. You just never use it. I regret a bit not getting this girls number.
A great 50 reals spent. The area was not nearly as bad as I thought it would be, next time I'll probably bring my phone. A good experience overall and I will return!
Steve 9696
07-24-23, 19:53
I'm trying to see the downside.No downside per se. I'm sure he's saying that Japanese girls in Japan have a very different vibe. Super submissive. Like you are the man and I must serve you. How would you like me to? It's a bit hard to describe but def make you feel like a king.
Brasileiras are awesome (more awesome?) in their own special way. But it's def different.
Gold mine it is. I made a visit today. I had heard many bad things about this neighborhood and not knowing what to expect, I left my cell phone at home....What you have to look out for is in the tight space that some may grab your phone but it does not seem that it will happen in this building, and watch out the cyclists on the street. This area actually has some high end shops but it is bordering the bad area. Going north is an area with very large concentration of crack addicts that is several times larger than the one in Medellin. Going east is similar. Avoid these areas at night if you are not sure because most places are closed and deserted.
Gold mine it is. I made a visit today. I had heard many bad things about this neighborhood and not knowing what to expect, I left my cell phone at home.
I recognized the building immediately as the building with the "wavey" balconies. Walked right past the guy in front and the two guys at the desk immediately inside like I knew what I was doing. There were stairs on the left and 2 elevators on the right, 1 obviously broken, the other, I never saw anyone use.
I walked all the way to the top, 9th floor. On each floor there are 2 sides, a left side and a right side as you're going up. On a few floors the left side, there was some disco balls lighting up the area. On the right side on each floor there are areas with seating and tables. A saw some guys just sitting around drinking.
The staircase is small and it can be tight going up. I went at around 1:30 in the afternoon and there were plenty of dudes there, just climbing up and down the stairs. In a strange way I felt a sort of comraderie, all suffering the same stairs in search of the same thing.
Now onto the girls. Ok, I am going to say it. I think the talent here was generally better than Bogota santa fe street girls. Especially in recent times. Santa fe of 2019 would edge this place out, but all my recent trips to santa fe have been dissapointing. I excplicity exclude the clubs of santa fe. The santa fe clubs can be much better depeding on the time / day of the week. In 134 I saw about 30 or so girls. I'd say 3 of which I would do.
I ended up with Yasmine from the 6th floor. I asked her how much? She said 50. Lets go. The rooms are small, much smaller than the average santa fe room. No aircon, just a fan. The room reminded me of the room I had sessioned in in VM, just a bit cleaner. There was enough space for a bed and a room to stand. Not much else.
Yasmine turned out to be really nice. Never did I feel like she was trying to pull something on me. She didn't even ask for money up front. She made some small talk and then we both got undressed and got down to it. Her face was not great, maybe a 5, with some acne scarring. But she had a kind smile and a kind personality. It may be hard to understand, since I don't speak portuguese. It was just sort of a sense I got from her.
The sex was quick. A covered BJ. Then some missionary, I liked looking down at her face and her smooth skin with a tattoo under her breasts. Her pussy was a bit on the loose side for me, but I turned her over into doggie, and the view helped me out. I finished fast and was happy with the experience. I thought about getting her whatsacpp but never did. I always tell newer mongers to always get numbers. You never regret getting someones number. You just never use it. I regret a bit not getting this girls number.
A great 50 reals spent. The area was not nearly as bad as I thought it would be, next time I'll probably bring my phone. A good experience overall and I will return!The walkups of Hong Kong come to mind with obviously better service, its Brazil.
The walkups of Hong Kong come to mind with obviously better service, its Brazil.If you're talking about the same walk ups of Hong Kong that I remember from back in 2011, building 134 was a much different experience. Much dirtier. Haha.
Address is Rua Silvio Sacramento 132, Pinheiros.
I found this place from gpguia.net. Tucked away in this small cobbled street, there was no sign, I thought I was at the wrong place at first, theres a dedicated parking area with an attendant out front, and the building looks way to big to be just a massage parlor. When I went inside I immediately knew I was in the right place. There was a sign with all the prices on the reception counter. 270 for an hour. Then there were other prices for a 4 hands massage, I honestly don't remember what the price was exactly. Wasn't interested. I actually asked if there was a half hour option. I never take that long. The receptionist said that the half hour was 240 vs 270 for the hour, not much of a difference. So an hour it was. I was a bit dissapointed that there was no presentation. The receptionist, showed me pictures of the available girls on her phone. None of the pictures had faces, which I hate. But I was already there. I've told this to myself more times than I can count. I usually doesn't end well. I picked a Bela, a morena with a nice looking ass, according to the photos.
The receptionist leads me into the next room, which is a gigantic waiting room. It was empty at the time, but I was left impressed. It looked very comfortable. We went down a hall and she ushered me into a room. The room had one of those beds with the thick plastic covers on it. Then off to the side was the bathroom. They even had some slippers for you. I would say the rooms were a bit nicer than clinica prime.
I sat waiting for bela for less than 5 minutes. I was a bit anxious having never seen her face. She arrives, opens the door, and I'm immediately disappointed in my head. But I try not to show it. She's definitely had a kid, I can see the sagginess in her breasts. Minimal visible baby damage on her stomach, it more had to do with the feeling of the loose skin when you rub your hands over it. She had braces, which I actually like. Its a wierd turn on for me. Personality wise, she was pleasant, I don't think I've ever found an unpleasant girl in Brazil. Wait, I take that back. The one girl I did in VM, in the dirtiest room I've ever been in, she had an attitude! But man, it was a good fuck. Worth the 70 I paid at the time. Anyways back to bela. I took a shower, and she followed.
I waited for her naked on the bed, watching her as she showered. I thought to myself, she doesn't look all THAT bad from this angle. My disappointment waned as I tried to be positive about the situation. After she finished her shower, she joined me in bed and started a light massage, with some white lotion. Who knows what that stuff is. She rubbed it all over my chest and started rubbing her body against mine. Eventually she made her way to my cock. Up he stood. She put herself into a 69 position with her on top and started giving me a BBBJ. Decent, not the greatest BJ in the world, but decent. One of those bjs where you know you're never going to cum, but hey, it still feels pretty good. I think she sucked my dick for a good 10 minutes and I decided it was time to get to the real action. I put her on her back and she put the condom on me. She immediately went to legs over my shoulders position as I pounded her. Then moved into cowgirl, this is where I think she came, but I'm not sure. Who knows, I don't care. Not that kind of guy. Sorry. As she was coming, my dick lost a bit of steam. I don't know what it was, but I felt like I'd lost the wave. So I told her to get into doggie, cause that usually gets me hard again. She obliged, but the wave never came back. I banged her for 5 minutes or so in doggie, but I could feel my power fading. Thats the worst. She was definitely trying, I could actually feel her squeeze my dick with her pussy. Realizing what had happened she took off my condom and starting giving me a BBBJ again. Another 10 minutes of BBBJ, and we decided we should probably take a break. We just laid in bed together for 5 minutes or so, chatting in my broken portuganish. I said, we should try again now, She started with BBBJ again and I was hard again quickly. Not wanting to lose the opportunity again, I said lets move right into doggie. Pounded her for about 20 strokes before coming in doggie style. Funny thing is, in my mind I had said to myself, I'd be okay not cumming since I didn't find her too attractive.
So bela herself, I would give a 5 physically, but a 9 for effort. Would not repeat with her. Will probably not go back just because there is no presentation. Oh, I got a 50 real discount because I said I was a member of gpguia.net. So it ended up costing 220 for the hour.
Am returning to Sao Paulo in October, and appreciate the current information. Being a budget hobbyist, Building 134 sounds very appealing.
Gold mine it is. I made a visit today. I had heard many bad things about this neighborhood and not knowing what to expect, I left my cell phone at home.
I recognized the building immediately as the building with the "wavey" balconies. Walked right past the guy in front and the two guys at the desk immediately inside like I knew what I was doing. There were stairs on the left and 2 elevators on the right, 1 obviously broken, the other, I never saw anyone use.
I walked all the way to the top, 9th floor. On each floor there are 2 sides, a left side and a right side as you're going up. On a few floors the left side, there was some disco balls lighting up the area. On the right side on each floor there are areas with seating and tables. A saw some guys just sitting around drinking.
The staircase is small and it can be tight going up. I went at around 1:30 in the afternoon and there were plenty of dudes there, just climbing up and down the stairs. In a strange way I felt a sort of comraderie, all suffering the same stairs in search of the same thing.
Now onto the girls. Ok, I am going to say it. I think the talent here was generally better than Bogota santa fe street girls. Especially in recent times. Santa fe of 2019 would edge this place out, but all my recent trips to santa fe have been dissapointing. I excplicity exclude the clubs of santa fe. The santa fe clubs can be much better depeding on the time / day of the week. In 134 I saw about 30 or so girls. I'd say 3 of which I would do.
I ended up with Yasmine from the 6th floor. I asked her how much? She said 50. Lets go. The rooms are small, much smaller than the average santa fe room. No aircon, just a fan. The room reminded me of the room I had sessioned in in VM, just a bit cleaner. There was enough space for a bed and a room to stand. Not much else.
Yasmine turned out to be really nice. Never did I feel like she was trying to pull something on me. She didn't even ask for money up front. She made some small talk and then we both got undressed and got down to it. Her face was not great, maybe a 5, with some acne scarring. But she had a kind smile and a kind personality. It may be hard to understand, since I don't speak portuguese. It was just sort of a sense I got from her.
The sex was quick. A covered BJ. Then some missionary, I liked looking down at her face and her smooth skin with a tattoo under her breasts. Her pussy was a bit on the loose side for me, but I turned her over into doggie, and the view helped me out. I finished fast and was happy with the experience. I thought about getting her whatsacpp but never did. I always tell newer mongers to always get numbers. You never regret getting someones number. You just never use it. I regret a bit not getting this girls number.
A great 50 reals spent. The area was not nearly as bad as I thought it would be, next time I'll probably bring my phone. A good experience overall and I will return!
The Critic
07-27-23, 08:09
I thought about getting her whatsacpp but never did. I always tell newer mongers to always get numbers. You never regret getting someones number. You just never use it. I regret a bit not getting this girls number.You'll never regret having gotten the number! You can throw it away (delete) later. But when you have downtime or wanting activity, you'll regret not having it.
If you're talking about the same walk ups of Hong Kong that I remember from back in 2011, building 134 was a much different experience. Much dirtier. Haha.Yeah, but which did you enjoy more Fuji building or building 134?
Thanks, SocratesNY all your good advice worked for me. I relied on Bradesco ATMs INSIDE bank branches in Sao Paulo. Got all my cash withdrawals during the week or Friday at the latest. The SIM was a problem cause my iPhone is locked. Vivo did sell me the SIM. I stayed in Moema to walk around to all the clinicas. Safe area.
Luckily all the Clinica's, Boates, and Shops I visited had free Wifi internet connection.
Scandallo.
The return to Scandallo was fantastic! I got there at 8 pm missing the window to reduce consumption price. Didn't care, the plan was to go Wed and Thurs ballads nights, find as many garotas that look a curvey Meghan Markle, which is my type, and get BBBJ and DT. Negotiate with one and add her girlfriend for duplos threesome sessions.
For this trip, I used advice from the board and made a laminated color copy of my passport to carry as ID. Kept the original locked in the hotel room safe. That worked fine. It did the trick every place I needed to show ID Scandello, Casaro, Vivo store, Rio Branco 156 building in Centro, Rio Branco 185 building Centro) I kept the original passport locked away.
Back to Scandallo, she gives me the ID back and card to charge drinks.
Moments later the security guy moved toward my direction with a big smile, he says 'Familia' Haha he remembered the reais tips I gave him when I got locked in the place on a Sunday morning.
Take the elevator up to the second floor.
I love the moment of anticipation before the doors open, swishing the views and perfumed scents of scandallos.
My style is wearing stylish clothes in Scandallo as a matter of personal preference. There is no need to dress nicely but that is my comfort choice and coming on midweek nights with bands.
I did briefly see the dwarf chic with her girlfriend with the tig bitties. She plopped those bigguns in my face but that wasn't on the bucket list.
Instead, I went up to meet two garotas, that fit my Meghan Markle type. We grab one of the tables in the last row, mid-way between the door entrance and bathroom. I call over the waiter to find more chairs for us which he does.
I explained in portospanglish everything we will do in the room and I tell them $600 reais each is the price for the hour. Don't care how much she charges or if her girlfriend is more or whatever price they ask other gringos. Don't know didn't care. Both agreed. Next, I tell them they can order Gin and tonic or Gin and a mixernothing else. I don't give garotas the option of ordering expensive drinks on my dime, and I won't budge from the $600 reais offer.
She and her girlfriend mull over both offers, and both give me a huge mushy kiss to seal the deal.
During this trip, my Porto Spanish improved, able to hold a half-decent conversation with garotas talking about music, and money, the illusion of passion is going strong. So the three of us are sitting laughing, singing out loud with the band, drinking, and DFK each other, the chicas are tonguing each other too, and I join in a three-way tonguing session. That was fun. A bit of public spectacle and we didn't care. After the second round of kissing and drinks off we go. Back on the elevators, high-five the security guys, and up the stairs to the cashier.
From my last trip and the board, I knew it is possible to charge the Garotas $600 reais session to the credit card. Nice option. Today I wasn't conserving cash on hand so no problem to pay cash after the deed. This time I remembered the cashier's name and specifically asked for one of the larger rooms.
While waiting there were two couples in front of us, the guys proudly told me they were paying 2 mil and 1. 5 mil reais on their cards to each of the garotas. Not trying to cause a debate about scandallo garotas pricing only reporting what I paid and the guys in front of me said.
Anyhow I felt pretty good about negotiating with my garotas. Both of them were happy and I was happy with two meghan markle types on their knees sucking and slobbering BBBJ on the knob.
Casaro visit Next up.
Last night was pretty good at Casarao.
Not the packed crowd of a Friday night, however, plenty of garotas, and some surprisingly good talent.
Fun time!
PS .. a photo copy of your passport will suffice as ID to get into these clubs.
Axel Heyst
07-30-23, 16:09
Last night was pretty good at Casarao.
Not the packed crowd of a Friday night, however, plenty of garotas, and some surprisingly good talent.
Fun time!
PS .. a photo copy of your passport will suffice as ID to get into these clubs.A United States state driver's license will suffice as well and I assume this form of documentation would suffice for Canadian and European driver's license holders as well.
Cafe Photo is the only SP boate I am aware of that requires customer fingerprint recognition for entry, in addition to the driver's license signup requirement on the 1st visit. I went there one night in June and had a pretty good time with a slender branca. I will post a review soon. But when I asked the host why the club wanted my fingerprint, he said fingerprints shorten the wait time to register a guest and set up his account tab. I said I don't mind waiting the extra minute or two to register the old-fashioned way with an ID. He smiled and said most customers appreciated the new method. KKK. Sure.
Casaro visits on Friday and Saturday night around midnight.
Ii's freaking packed with a bunch of swinging dicks. Thought I was in the wrong place.
Way too many effing guys. Seriously. Plus it's smokey like hell in there.
Must be getting old. The music isn't my style, but garotas are economico price so I stayed. It was standing room only.
Twenty minutes later a couple of hotties blonde brancas approach me. The first thing I did was check for my phone. Ya never know in a crowded standing-room-only club.
We chatted in Porto Spanglish she was very attractive blond but her girlfriend had a better vibe.
Moved the conversation to the girlfriend. Then and got her a drink.
I am only drinking whiskey, Chivas regal 18 years she can have the same or nothing. We started drinking a lot, chatting, talking, and laughing she shared wassap and all the pictures on her phone and Instagram. We hit it off.
We leave casaro to go next door, I pay consumption at the exit, and the security guy gives me a plastic cup to have my drink to go.
Sowhat happens if you pay upfront, and there is a disagreement in the room because drunk asses like me don't always make the best decisions at the moment?
We walk to the Casarao Hotel and are standing in the long ass line to get a room. It's 1 am or 2 am there is a waiting system to call your number when a room is ready.
We grab a seat and drink more flirting. We agreed on a price of $400 reais one hour. She offers to receive payment in Pix or credit. She pulls out a small terminal from her purse.
Damn I considered it for a half second then thought if I swipe my card I might not be able to use the card in Prime, Tangar, or Miruna Clinica in the morning. Haha its the only reason I don't swipe thinking about the duplos in the morning. I changed and told her lets do cash, it's better. Our number is called, we are stumbling in the hallway to the rooms.
Off we go to the rooms down a long hallway, downstairs up other stairs, darn another maze of rooms. We reach the room.
In the room, she says to pay upfront. I responded not. For a few minutes, it was a Mexican standoff.
Having been in a similar situation in Tijuanaa Adelitas I offer a compromise. I pull $400 reais, count them out loud, and, together. I ask for her high heels shoe. Place the dinero underneath her high heel shoe on top of the cabinet. She can see the money is there and it's hers when the deed is done.
She agrees great it worked.
This pretty garota drops to her knees for an intense ten minutes of really good BBBJ sloppy deepthroat. She stops mid slurp smiles and says she is too drunk to continue.
She was drunk as hell in the club. We had a bunch of strong drinks. She looks up, sloppy salvia on her face, and tells me to keep the $400 reais she's not charging for anything!
Well, the first time I ever got to keep the cash for services not rendered. She grabs a towel wipes her face, smiles and leaves. Thought heard her puking up in the hallway.
I leave too taking Uber back to the hotel.
Very early the next morning she sends half a dozen apology messages and naked pics on wassap saying how sorry she was about the last night. We can meet again for half the price, she will do better. Etc,
This pretty garota drops to her knees for an intense ten minutes of really good BBBJ sloppy deepthroat. She stops mid slurp smiles and says she is too drunk to continue. She was drunk as hell in the club. We had a bunch of strong drinks. She looks up, sloppy salvia on her face, and tells me to keep the $400 reais she's not charging for anything! Well, the first time I ever got to keep the cash for services not rendered. She grabs a towel wipes her face, smiles and leaves. Thought heard her puking up in the hallway. I leave too taking Uber back to the hotel. Very early the next morning she sends half a dozen apology messages and naked pics on wassap saying how sorry she was about the last night. We can meet again for half the price, she will do better. Etc,Every single time you think you've seen / heard it all there's always a new one! LOL!
Take the elevator up to the second floor.
I love the moment of anticipation before the doors open, swishing the views and perfumed scents of scandallos.
While waiting there were two couples in front of us, the guys proudly told me they were paying 2 mil and 1. 5 mil reais on their cards to each of the garotas. Not trying to cause a debate about scandallo garotas pricing only reporting what I paid and the guys in front of me said.
Anyhow I felt pretty good about negotiating with my garotas. Both of them were happy and I was happy with two meghan markle types on their knees sucking and slobbering BBBJ on the knob.
Love the report and sounds like you are having a blast.
Me too, love the anticipation when elevator door opens at Scandallo.
As for guys paying 2 mil and 1. 5 mil, were they gringos or locals?
Man, you first get a duo for R600 each girl in Scandallo. Ok, sounds possible during pandemics.
Then you get a free of charge service from a Casarao Rua Augusta GP??
Yeah sure, money aint for nothing and the chicks for free.
Come on!
She was drunk as hell in the club. We had a bunch of strong drinks. She looks up, sloppy salvia on her face, and tells me to keep the $400 reais she's not charging for anything!
Man, you first get a duo for R600 each girl in Scandallo. Ok, sounds possible during pandemics.
Then you get a free of charge service from a Casarao Rua Augusta GP??
Yeah sure, money aint for nothing and the chicks for free.
Come on!R600 for a duo in Scandallo at any time should be easy.
The girls know it would be easier work for 2 of them to get you off.
Especially so if they're friends.
Maybe not the top tier garotas.
On the free BBBJ, maybe she was drunk and knew she was going to throw up, and was embarassed.
Or maybe she felt her period starting to drip out.
Odd but plausible.
Oh yeah, R600 makes sense for 6's GPS at Scandallo.
Lower than 7's not on my list.
R600 for a duo in Scandallo at any time should be easy.
The girls know it would be easier work for 2 of them to get you off.
Especially so if they're friends.
Maybe not the top tier garotas.
On the free BBBJ, maybe she was drunk and knew she was going to throw up, and was embarassed.
Or maybe she felt her period starting to drip out.
Odd but plausible.
Does anyone know if there's an updated version of this please? Or if it is up to date and to what extent?
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&ll=-23.568139836519688%2C-46.65167774811431&z=13&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU
Does anyone know if there's an updated version of this please?I'm sorry I can't help you with the map. I just wanted to say I hope you're back mongering in Brazil. Your reports were almost first class.
Your reports were almost first class.That should be "always", not almost.
Dustin3541
08-04-23, 13:28
I will be in SP next week for two days and looking for some help to maximize my time. Since I'm flying in / out of GRU I will be staying at Holiday Inn Parque Anhembi close to the airport. Does anyone know if I can bring girls to my room there? I like the strip club scene but I also want overnight company. Where must I go and what are the best agencies to line up some company ahead of time.
World Travel 69
08-04-23, 17:23
You can do as I just did. Click on the links and see what you find out. I can't do all your work for you. Or Call them.
Does anyone know if there's an updated version of this please? Or if it is up to date and to what extent?
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&ll=-23.568139836519688%2C-46.65167774811431&z=13&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU
I prefer Abboboro to Prime. Over many SP trips, including my most recent May / June trip, I consistently seem to have more fun at Abboboro than at Prime and I find Abboboro girls are on average more attractive. Factoid: I went to Abboboro 5 times while I only went to Prime one time this last trip.
Interestingly, it was during my last trip, that Abboboro management started doing something new: Customers always had to pay the full price of 350 br for 60 minutes in advance at Abboboro, but now the girl at the front desk takes the girl's cut, 200 br, out of the total payment and places the money on the nightstand next to the bed in the assigned room. The girl is allowed to take the cash left for her when the session is over. I first experienced this bifurcated payment method at high-end SP clinicas like the Palm, Lotus Lounge and Sharon Premium. I like it because it emphasizes to the girls exactly where the cake is coming from and who they should take good care of.
Here is the SP price comparison: 1. A regular clinica like Abboboro, 200 goes to the girl / 150 to the house. 2. a high end clinical like the Palm, 350 to the girl (customers pay the girl directly after the session ends) / 400 to the house or in total 2 x the Abboboro price. 3. Scandallo or Bomboa with a tier 2 girl, 700 to 800 for the girl, 500 to the house, and 240 (approximately) for a room or exit fee to take the girl out of the club. Call it 1500 total or 2 x the Palm price.Whats the address for Abboboro. Will be in SP on Thursday. Going to celebrate my bday in Sao Paulo.
SamaRiding
08-04-23, 18:56
I will be in SP next week for two days and looking for some help to maximize my time. Since I'm flying in / out of GRU I will be staying at Holiday Inn Parque Anhembi close to the airport. Does anyone know if I can bring girls to my room there? I like the strip club scene but I also want overnight company. Where must I go and what are the best agencies to line up some company ahead of time.Sadly. You are in the wrong city for strip clubs and escort agencies. There are none or at least any ones that are good enough to care about.
Steve 9696
08-04-23, 19:31
Whats the address for Abboboro. Will be in SP on Thursday. Going to celebrate my bday in Sao Paulo.Spelled Abbobora. Just google maps it.
I will be in SP next week for two days and looking for some help to maximize my time. Since I'm flying in / out of GRU I will be staying at Holiday Inn Parque Anhembi close to the airport. Does anyone know if I can bring girls to my room there? I like the strip club scene but I also want overnight company. Where must I go and what are the best agencies to line up some company ahead of time.You shoulda done your research before booking a hotel.
The only reason to ever have your hotel close to any airport is because you want no play, and you're focused strictly on flying out.
Maybe the right order should have been:
1). Find out a good hotel that allows girls in. And is close enough to the airport.
2). Book said hotel then.
The good thing is. GRU is only about 1 hour from the good parts of SP.
If you're really interested in getting some play, you can cancel your current booking and get a hotel in Moema or Jardins.
Dustin3541
08-05-23, 08:40
You shoulda done your research before booking a hotel.
The only reason to ever have your hotel close to any airport is because you want no play, and you're focused strictly on flying out.
Maybe the right order should have been:
1). Find out a good hotel that allows girls in. And is close enough to the airport.
2). Book said hotel then.
The good thing is. GRU is only about 1 hour from the good parts of SP.
If you're really interested in getting some play, you can cancel your current booking and get a hotel in Moema or Jardins.So do you have recommendations for a nice hotel in Jardins? Does anyone have any constructive help or just to tell me I did it wrong? What about agencies? I don't want to wander the streets so I'the prefer to make arrangements ahead of time as well as visit a few clubs.
Steve 9696
08-05-23, 09:19
I will be in SP next week for two days and looking for some help to maximize my time. Since I'm flying in / out of GRU I will be staying at Holiday Inn Parque Anhembi close to the airport. Does anyone know if I can bring girls to my room there? I like the strip club scene but I also want overnight company. Where must I go and what are the best agencies to line up some company ahead of time.You don't say your price range. But as the other poster says no point booking close to the airport because options are slim. If you have coin then book closer to Scandallo. Go there in person. Select from the buffet and make an overnight takeout offer. A lot guys do this. Much better in person to gauge chemistry.
Just a brief rundown of experiences.
Went to casarao on a Saturday night. Arrived a little past 12. Much bigger than I expected. There's a basement floor I didn't even know existed until about an hour after I was there. General talent is lower then clinicas. Too many guys. It's a 50 cover. I ended up with a girl from Rio with nice tan lines. She quoted me 300 for 30 minutes or 500 for an hour. I took the 30 minute option. Almost every time I've taken an hour I've regretted it. I just don't take that long. You have to leave the club and settle your bill in order to session. The rooms are in the building next door. Rooms cost 50 for 30 minutes and 100 for an hour. This is in addition to what the girl costs. At 2 am on a Saturday night the rooms were a bit busy. Had to wait 20 minutes for our turn. I did notice that the girls waiting for rooms were much more attractive than the girls in the club. So maybe the girls in the club are low quality because all the good ones are fucking.
I've been back to 134 several times already. On a Friday at 4 pm it was packed. Every time I've been I've seen someone I would do. The next time I went I sessioned 3 times with 3 different girls. Got all their numbers. Not sure if I'm going to use them but at least I got them. I got hassled at the front desk of building 134 for carrying aa plastic grocery bag. They wanted me to check it in at the front desk. It costs 5 to check it in. I just don't like leaving my shit with other people. So I took all the crap out of my bag and put them in my pockets. So keep that in mind if you intend on showing up with a backpack. Bag check is not optional as I thought.
I made a trip to building 69. The area really isn't as bad as people say it is. If you've been to santa fe Bogota. You'll be fine. Keep your wits about you. I thought the girls would be butt ugly. But they weren't that bad. I'd say a bit of a drop in quality from 134. They tend to be older and fatter but I think they're also cheaper. I've heard it's 30 to session there. I didn't ask. Since no one really caught my attention.
In the same general area I went to 11 Santa elfinia. Might have gotten the spelling wrong. It's the next street over from building 69. It was really interesting. It's 5 floors of rooms. I think I went too early because most of the doors were closed. I will have to go back at a different time. I think I saw only 5 girls there. None of which I would do.
There's a park nearby that for sure has some street walkers.
Since I was in the area I checked out american bar near the park. So the 3 rdfloor. Loud music. No customers at 4 pm in the afternoon. Only one girl. She looked alright. But I didn't get close enough to judge her really well. Left immediately.
In my opinion for first-time travelers: first review the list of clinicas on gp-guia, the price list is posted there, and the clinicas wassap numbers are available to see names, faces, and daily lineup, then do the visit for presentation. Much easier to keep track of 15-20 sexy garotas giving you a welcome brasil kiss when you have their names and photos. On your next clinica visit schedule an early booking of your favorite garotas in advance to not miss out.
I completed visits to Clinica Prime, Abbobora, Tangar, Enjoy, Miruna, and 57 Friends. It's a blast to walk around Moema to see the presentation. Other times it's very disappointing if nothing clicks in an entire lineup of ten garotas. The photos in the lineup can differ from the in-person experience. At Tangar I liked the online photos of Lily Cooper, but during the presentation, I didn't know it was the same Garota. She looked plain, with shorter hair, and different. She has great reviews but not my type. My type is a young Alicia Keys, a sultry Meghan Markle, or a curvy, younger Fiorella Gelli Mattheis all with the Brazilian illusion of passion (IoP).
Prime, Tangar, and Miruna list new chicas added to the team lineup. Very recently at Miruna started 19-year-old blond natural curves, Lua, all natural everywhere, she seemed new to Miruna, and they had to show her where the rooms were upstairs. During the presentation, I felt like a kid with the cracker jack prize when I spotted her. Chose her right away Lua is a young, hot curvy 19-year-old blonde. Damn, luv Brasil. Got her wassap to arrange directly to hotel session for the next day for less.
In my opinion, scheduling duplos in advance, four hands threesome for one or two hours is a good bargain. Quite a few times at Prime and Miruna I got the special pricing deals for threesomes, four hands.
I do 90-minute or two-hour sessions because never know if the same garotas will show up tomorrow or next week.
Yes, early afternoon sessions prefer clinicas. Tangar has a very deep lineup. The wassap list of fotos and names is at least 20 garotas. I reserve two chicas in advance with the rooms on the first floor. I'the rather wait for those rooms than the long walk upstairs or down in the basement near the kitchen. Tangara has a bar in the basement. A good place to sit, and drink whiskey while waiting for room to be available. After a while, I order drinks delivered to the room. On Sunday afternoons they have a bbq cookout, food, and drinks.
It's crowded in Tangara, which reminds me of Casaro. Always seems packed with local guys waiting around.
I figured it's best to schedule two Tangar garotas in advance, reserve gets the rooms on the first floor rooms 1-4 are most convenient. Tangar desk staff are very responsive on wassap.
One time I had such a great drunken time, we went at it for hours. Just plain, exhausted wiped out, so I left Tangar completely forgetting to pay at the desk. You can leave using the buzzer on the door. I buzzed myself out, jump into the waiting Uber, head to the hotel to recover and get some stage 3 REM sleep. An hour or two later they wassap letting me know I forgot to pay. Oh crap their right, haha I was too exhausted and drunk to pay at the desk. Three back-to-back two-hour no holes barred brasilian threesomes with good music and whiskey wore me out. I text them back saying I will stop by later in the evening on the way to Scandalo to settle up. All was cool, no hassle or issues at all.
My favorite porno garota at Tangar is Ariella. I always let her choose the other pretty, sexy garotas for our threesome. Damn. Good. Time.
With Ariella and Larinha threesomes. I pull up Ariellaa porn videos on pornhub, she smiles while the three of us are doing everything in the videos. Damn exhausted, nothing was left out.
Abbobora has deep an "equipe" team of beautiful garotas. The front desk customer service gal sucks. She gets irritated if you don't remember all the names, she doesn't give another presentation to help you out. Don't think the lineup is on wassap either. She's a pain in the rear about the 15 garotas you just met. Abbobora easily can have 15 -20 garotas during the presentation, gpguia is a great guide to figure out which of them are good performers. So I reviewed a bunch of names first and sessioned with highly reviewed Larissa. Tanned, cute perky energetic.
She was there only once a week, on weekends. We went to Hotel Shiga next door. Pay by credito, their machine is wonky. The suites are small rooms with AC showers and never enough towels.
At Prime Blonde Karen is the old-time favorite. She works well with threesomes porno style too. Also went with Camilia in Prime, and she chooses Nadia as a partner for the threesome. Damn, they are a combo, erotic and intense, I see why Prime features them as a duplo couple. Outstanding service, at special pricing, was the perfect session.
Spelled Abbobora. Just google maps it.Thanks, looks like I've been there before. But I will still check it out.
Just a brief rundown of experiences.
Went to casarao on a Saturday night. Arrived a little past 12. Much bigger than I expected. There's a basement floor I didn't even know existed until about an hour after I was there. General talent is lower then clinicas. Too many guys. It's a 50 cover. I ended up with a girl from Rio with nice tan lines. She quoted me 300 for 30 minutes or 500 for an hour. I took the 30 minute option. Almost every time I've taken an hour I've regretted it. I just don't take that long. You have to leave the club and settle your bill in order to session. The rooms are in the building next door. Rooms cost 50 for 30 minutes and 100 for an hour. This is in addition to what the girl costs. At 2 am on a Saturday night the rooms were a bit busy. Had to wait 20 minutes for our turn. I did notice that the girls waiting for rooms were much more attractive than the girls in the club. So maybe the girls in the club are low quality because all the good ones are fucking.
I've been back to 134 several times already. On a Friday at 4 pm it was packed. Every time I've been I've seen someone I would do. The next time I went I sessioned 3 times with 3 different girls. Got all their numbers. Not sure if I'm going to use them but at least I got them. I got hassled at the front desk of building 134 for carrying aa plastic grocery bag. They wanted me to check it in at the front desk. It costs 5 to check it in. I just don't like leaving my shit with other people. So I took all the crap out of my bag and put them in my pockets. So keep that in mind if you intend on showing up with a backpack. Bag check is not optional as I thought.
I made a trip to building 69. The area really isn't as bad as people say it is. If you've been to santa fe Bogota. You'll be fine. Keep your wits about you. I thought the girls would be butt ugly. But they weren't that bad. I'd say a bit of a drop in quality from 134. They tend to be older and fatter but I think they're also cheaper. I've heard it's 30 to session there. I didn't ask. Since no one really caught my attention.
In the same general area I went to 11 Santa elfinia. Might have gotten the spelling wrong. It's the next street over from building 69. It was really interesting. It's 5 floors of rooms. I think I went too early because most of the doors were closed. I will have to go back at a different time. I think I saw only 5 girls there. None of which I would do.
There's a park nearby that for sure has some street walkers.
Since I was in the area I checked out american bar near the park. So the 3 rdfloor. Loud music. No customers at 4 pm in the afternoon. Only one girl. She looked alright. But I didn't get close enough to judge her really well. Left immediately.Whats 134? Location?
BRL $330, be sure to confirm with the garota if you want to have two pops because some of them will try to up charge for it.
Thanks, looks like I've been there before. But I will still check it out.
... What about agencies? I don't want to wander the streets so I'the prefer to make arrangements ahead of time as well as visit a few clubs.I may be wrong with the location. You are not that close to GRU. It is more like midway between the GRU and Sao Paulo. If you just want to go to Scandallo, I think your hotel location is fine for two days. It is actually closer to some other boates less mentioned here. You can use google map to compare the travel time of this location and any other potential locations. You probably will find that they are equal distance.
So do you have recommendations for a nice hotel in Jardins? Does anyone have any constructive help or just to tell me I did it wrong? ....
Most mentioned hotel is Renaissance Sao Paulo Hotel
Does anyone know if there's an updated version of this please? Or if it is up to date and to what extent?
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&ll=-23.568139836519688%2C-46.65167774811431&z=13&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbUThis Google map is very useful. Thanks.
Whats 134? Location?Building 134 is Alameda Barão de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia.
Building 69 is Rua dos Andradas 69.
Building 11 is Rua Santa Ifigenia, 11.
The first 2 are on the map. The last one is not.
The american bar I mentioned is Av. São João, 345. On the map its called Prive American Bar.
So do you have recommendations for a nice hotel in Jardins? Does anyone have any constructive help or just to tell me I did it wrong? What about agencies? I don't want to wander the streets so I'the prefer to make arrangements ahead of time as well as visit a few clubs.I am usually in SP for 4 days so I kinda understand what you want. This is what I would do:
1) Book the Renaissance (very girl friendly) or something similar around Jardim Paulista for two guests. The area is super safe with lots of good restaurants and grocery stores within walking distance.
2) I am not a clinica person, but you can RTFF to get names of some of the better clinicas and hit them up in the afternoon.
3) For the evenings plan one night at Scandello. Again, RTFF and you will get an idea of pricing. If the pricing is out of your budget, you can try the other ones like Bomboa or Casarao (close to the Renaissance).
I wouldn't waste my time with escort agencies. You can get a presentation of the girls at the clinicas and Scandello and other boates are like a buffet of women.
Have fun and make sure you write a report.
Building 134 is Alameda Baro de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia.
Building 69 is Rua dos Andradas 69.
Building 11 is Rua Santa Ifigenia, 11.
The first 2 are on the map. The last one is not.
The american bar I mentioned is Av. So Joo, 345. On the map its called Prive American Bar.Thanks, I appreciate it.
SamaRiding
08-06-23, 00:46
In my opinion for first-time travelers: first review the list of clinicas on gp-guia, the price list is posted there, and the clinicas wassap numbers are available to see names, faces, and daily lineup, then do the visit for presentation. Much easier to keep track of 15-20 sexy garotas giving you a welcome brasil kiss when you have their names and photos. On your next clinica visit schedule an early booking of your favorite garotas in advance to not miss out.
I completed visits to Clinica Prime, Abbobora, Tangar, Enjoy, Miruna, and 57 Friends. It's a blast to walk around Moema to see the presentation. Other times it's very disappointing if nothing clicks in an entire lineup of ten garotas. The photos in the lineup can differ from the in-person experience. At Tangar I liked the online photos of Lily Cooper, but during the presentation, I didn't know it was the same Garota. She looked plain, with shorter hair, and different. She has great reviews but not my type. My type is a young Alicia Keys, a sultry Meghan Markle, or a curvy, younger Fiorella Gelli Mattheis all with the Brazilian illusion of passion (IoP).
Prime, Tangar, and Miruna list new chicas added to the team lineup. Very recently at Miruna started 19-year-old blond natural curves, Lua, all natural everywhere, she seemed new to Miruna, and they had to show her where the rooms were upstairs. During the presentation, I felt like a kid with the cracker jack prize when I spotted her. Chose her right away Lua is a young, hot curvy 19-year-old blonde. Damn, luv Brasil. Got her wassap to arrange directly to hotel session for the next day for less.
In my opinion, scheduling duplos in advance, four hands threesome for one or two hours is a good bargain. Quite a few times at Prime and Miruna I got the special pricing deals for threesomes, four hands.
I do 90-minute or two-hour sessions because never know if the same garotas will show up tomorrow or next week.
Yes, early afternoon sessions prefer clinicas. Tangar has a very deep lineup. The wassap list of fotos and names is at least 20 garotas. I reserve two chicas in advance with the rooms on the first floor. I'the rather wait for those rooms than the long walk upstairs or down in the basement near the kitchen. Tangara has a bar in the basement. A good place to sit, and drink whiskey while waiting for room to be available. After a while, I order drinks delivered to the room. On Sunday afternoons they have a bbq cookout, food, and drinks.
It's crowded in Tangara, which reminds me of Casaro. Always seems packed with local guys waiting around.
I figured it's best to schedule two Tangar garotas in advance, reserve gets the rooms on the first floor rooms 1-4 are most convenient. Tangar desk staff are very responsive on wassap.
One time I had such a great drunken time, we went at it for hours. Just plain, exhausted wiped out, so I left Tangar completely forgetting to pay at the desk. You can leave using the buzzer on the door. I buzzed myself out, jump into the waiting Uber, head to the hotel to recover and get some stage 3 REM sleep. An hour or two later they wassap letting me know I forgot to pay. Oh crap their right, haha I was too exhausted and drunk to pay at the desk. Three back-to-back two-hour no holes barred brasilian threesomes with good music and whiskey wore me out. I text them back saying I will stop by later in the evening on the way to Scandalo to settle up. All was cool, no hassle or issues at all.
My favorite porno garota at Tangar is Ariella. I always let her choose the other pretty, sexy garotas for our threesome. Damn. Good. Time.
With Ariella and Larinha threesomes. I pull up Ariellaa porn videos on pornhub, she smiles while the three of us are doing everything in the videos. Damn exhausted, nothing was left out.
Abbobora has deep an "equipe" team of beautiful garotas. The front desk customer service gal sucks. She gets irritated if you don't remember all the names, she doesn't give another presentation to help you out. Don't think the lineup is on wassap either. She's a pain in the rear about the 15 garotas you just met. Abbobora easily can have 15 -20 garotas during the presentation, gpguia is a great guide to figure out which of them are good performers. So I reviewed a bunch of names first and sessioned with highly reviewed Larissa. Tanned, cute perky energetic.
She was there only once a week, on weekends. We went to Hotel Shiga next door. Pay by credito, their machine is wonky. The suites are small rooms with AC showers and never enough towels.
At Prime Blonde Karen is the old-time favorite. She works well with threesomes porno style too. Also went with Camilia in Prime, and she chooses Nadia as a partner for the threesome. Damn, they are a combo, erotic and intense, I see why Prime features them as a duplo couple. Outstanding service, at special pricing, was the perfect session.The four hands deal at the moema clinicas including prime, miruna and enjoy is one of best 2 girls pricing anywhere. When I first heard of it, I couldn't believe it and thought there must be some catch. But it's real. I also found out it's much better to know one of girls really well and she can take the lead.
What's the Tangara pricing for 2 girls? I haven't try it there because trying to catch one girl I like was hard enough at that zoo. Probably need to what you suggest and just book ahead of time on WhatsApp.
Hahaha. I knew lily cooper before she was at tangara. She used to advertise on PA, and recently on mclass. She looks pretty nice when she puts the effort with elegant lingerie and cocktail dresses and make up. Plus I have a big thing for natural redheads with big natural breasts. She is well educated and this supports her schooling. I was surprised when she switch over to the clinicas, but makes a lot more now on heavy volume than her usual one or two client per night before.
SamaRiding
08-06-23, 00:53
Building 134 is Alameda Baro de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia. .I may have to try out 134 after the several good reports there. What is the standard service for 50 r per 30 minutes. Any GFE with BBBJ and DFK? I don't think I can deal with CBJ, maybe a upcharge?. Also is there a shower to clean up afterwards? 3 quick sessions here is the same as 1 hh session in most of the clinicas. Thanks.
EverythingBlue
08-06-23, 05:29
Some intel about the Hilton, Marriott and Hyatt Chain hotels in SP.
As others have mentioned, Jardins is a preferred area if you like walking or a quicker Uber ride to destinations such as restaurants, bars, Ave. Paulista, malls, and even some incalls from online girls advertising on the popular sites like Private55, SPlove, and Clubmodel. I really don't venture out to clubs like Scandallo anymore, or at least I haven't in my last few trips, but you can access it with an Uber ride, just like Casarao and many others. Clinicas are an easy Uber ride from Jardins too.
In Jardins, for the Hilton chain, there's a new hotel called Qoya, it's off Alameda Santos and near Ave. Paulista. My observation is that the lobby is accessible after taking an elevator up one floor. It's new and modern, and good price. The elevator to the rooms does require a card, but you can easily wait for your "friend" at the lobby, no need to check her in, if you don't want to.
In the same area, there is the famous Renaissance Hotel also off Alameda Santos. I was there a few weeks back, the lobby area was being remodeled, a temporary bar was setup and the sushi bar area appeared gone. According to the hotel staff, it was reopening soon, I'm not sure if the renovations are completed. The hotel has been quite busy every time I've been there the last few stays. My observation is that if you get a Suite, the room is great, and the location is preferred. However, if you get a regular room, the price for what you get is not worth it, unless you only value the location. This is comparing it to the other options in the Morumbi / Brooklyn area. Regular rooms are too small, and the bathrooms are starting to show their age. Even the shower in the Suites is small, you cannot shower with someone else in the tiny space.
In the Morumbi / Brooklyn area, there are more choices. This area doesn't have the same ease to walk to places as Jardin does. However, it has more hotels in the financial district, and the Hilton and Sheraton hotels are connected by an underground mall where you can find restaurants (Including a good one called Barbacoa, if you like steak), there is a very safe Bradesco bank with ATMs, a convenience store open until late, and a Drogaria Sao Paulo as well. Plus, a food court with other cheap food options.
As far as the Hilton in Morumbi, the lobby is in front of you as you enter, and the elevators are behind the lobby. I have never been stopped when walking in with company and have had visitors come up to my room without any charge, they just called my room to let them go up the elevator, since it requires card. Asking your "friends" to wear something discreet helps too. This hotel has spacious, updated and comfortable rooms with nice views of the Ponte Estaiada Octavio bridge, nice big showers that can fit two people, and the Suites are even better. The breakfast buffet is great too. The bar is up a couple of floors, with live music on some nights and working girls can be found there. The compromise is that you have a longer Uber ride to Scandallo, if you are planning on going. Clinicas, and other clubs like Cafe Photo are not that much farther than Jardins, if any. I've gotten used to using Uber everywhere, just use Uber Black to avoid cancellations and get quick pickups.
For the Sheraton in the same area, the lobby is to your right when you walk in and if you continue walking past it, you reach the elevators. They require a card to go up as well, but no one will stop you here either. This hotel has a bar in front of the lobby, and they have live music on some nights. The lobby area attracts many guests for drinks, and as you might guess, this also attracts working girls. LOL. I was there recently, and two of them were seated at a large couch, also another pair sitting at the bar, and another two behind a couple of pillars. They were quite attractive. I saw a guy take one back to his room, she was a very tall blonde with curves everywhere, I actually felt jealous LOL. Unfortunately, the rooms in this hotel are outdated, and the Suites need updating too. I would only stay here if you had no other choice, or you are getting a great deal. Stay at the Hilton and walk to the bar here to pick up a girl instead, if you desire LOL.
Another hotel in this area is the Grand Hyatt, although it is not connected by the underground mall. The hotel was very nice when I was there earlier this year, the lobby is up front as you enter, and the elevators are to your right a few steps after you walk in. They require a card to go up, but again no issue taking friends up. The rooms are just as nice as the Hilton, with great showers and great storage to put your stuff away. Great views of the bridge as well. There is a small bar area and restaurant, and I've seen a couple of girls hang out there on some nights as well.
If your preferred plan of attack is Online girls, Clinicas, Seeking or Meupatrocinio for meeting girls for dates and then back to the hotel, either area works fine. The ride to Scandallo takes an additional 15 to 20 min from Morumbi compared to Jardins, this depends on the time of the day, as traffic is always busy in SP.
I may have to try out 134 after the several good reports there. What is the standard service for 50 r per 30 minutes. Any GFE with BBBJ and DFK? I don't think I can deal with CBJ, maybe a upcharge?. Also is there a shower to clean up afterwards? 3 quick sessions here is the same as 1 hh session in most of the clinicas. Thanks.This is Bogota, Santa Fe style. It's 50 for 15 minutes. Covered BJ. No kissing. You could possibly negotiate the extras. I never did, since you don't have you whole lot of time to enjoy it. No Showers. One girl I did didn't even wipe her pussy afterwards with those quick wipes. I went to session with another girl just so I could get some wipes at the end. I did the 3 sessions just to try some of the different girls out. I didn't actually finish until the 3rd session.
The four hands deal at the moema clinicas including prime, miruna and enjoy is one of best 2 girls pricing anywhere. When I first heard of it, I couldn't believe it and thought there must be some catch. But it's real. I also found out it's much better to know one of girls really well and she can take the lead.
What's the Tangara pricing for 2 girls? I haven't try it there because trying to catch one girl I like was hard enough at that zoo. Probably need to what you suggest and just book ahead of time on WhatsApp.
Hahaha. I knew lily cooper before she was at tangara. She used to advertise on PA, and recently on mclass. She looks pretty nice when she puts the effort with elegant lingerie and cocktail dresses and make up. Plus I have a big thing for natural redheads with big natural breasts. She is well educated and this supports her schooling. I was surprised when she switch over to the clinicas, but makes a lot more now on heavy volume than her usual one or two client per night before.Tangara Lilly Cooper is a gem. She has good reviews on gp-guia. Lilly and the exotic Japa are always busy with clients. Best to schedule time. Too many guys ready to pounce on her if she is available.
Yup, it's cool to know the chicas before they work at a clinica. I enjoyed Duplo sessions with brasilian porno star Ariella Ferraz before she worked at Tangar. She has hot videos.
Yeah, the garotas make fast money with the volume of clients at Tangar. They get paid out at the end of their day. Better fast money now than slow money on PA.
At Prime Dorcas is the best receptionist. She is friendly, attentive, keeps a bottle of my favorite whiskey on hand, plus coffee, water, and soda. She treats me right as a customer. Plenty of hugs welcome back, and nice wassap messages about new Garotas' first day at Miruna. Ok, Larissa is good reception too. In case she reads the forum don't want to lose my discount or free whiskey. Haha.
Prime has a cool old lady Patricia we have the same taste in music. On different days she gives me the duplo special price, other times the forista discount. Sometimes nothing no discounts. Who knows. . (shrug).
Tangara two out of three receptionists are good to deal with. The mature MILF receptionist wears black leather pants to show off her ass and the guy is solid.
Abbobora's reception is lousy franken attitude, and lousy on wassap. Many bad reviews of reception on gpguia. If I could bypass her and go direct to the room in Hotel Shiga and do a garota presentation in the room, I would go there more often.
At Enjoy Spa the English-speaking receptionist worked at 57 Friends for a long time. We talk a lot. She gives me the Forista discount but lately Enjoys lineup is only 2 or 3 chicas show up on slow days.
BTW the cleaning crew at Prime Miruna, Abbobora is thorough.
The cleaning crew at Tangara sucks. The guy half ass cleans rooms between sessions. He cleans rooms 1-4 well cause they can watch him.
The question about pricing for duplos, four hands. I have paid different prices depending on the day. , cash vs credito, and the mood of the receptionist.
Prime, Miruna, and Tangar offer special days for duplos sessions, and other days no discount on normal fourhands pricing. Sometimes the receptionist gives me the forista or gp-guia discount. I pay in cash dinero, not credito which is a different price.
Ok, then I went to Rio, Centro. That messed up my Duplo pricing. The price range gap was wider. There was a massage place in the rio blanco 156 building, near the top floor. She gave me the Forista deal on top of the Duplo special. It was $180 reais for two garotas, paid in cash. No receptionist, no sign, no waiting area, nothing just three garotas, by themselves working in an office building with a small kitchen and tiny shower. They converted the office to a small three-bedroom sex den. High-end prices Whiskeria 4 x4 duplo was very pricey plus the crappy cold rooms for 90 min. Eventually bolted over to Whiskeria 65 for duplos.
I never do massage in spas or termas, FKK, or any masaje places. Always directo, straight to the deed, down on her knees slurping away.
Think I must have paid anywhere from $180 in Rio to $370 reais cash, more if pay by credit card for duplos sessions depending on the day, special, and the receptionist. It wasn't always double the price of a one-hour garota session. $270 x 2.
As always, your experience may be different, your pricing different, tastes in garotas are different, different days. So YMMV.
Yup, it's cool to know the chicas before they work at a clinica. I enjoyed Duplo sessions with brasilian porno star Ariella Ferraz before she worked at Tangar. She has hot videos.
I did not know Ariella was a porn star; just googled and found she is the lady I have sessioned with her multiple times at Prime. A rock solid performer.
Some intel about the Hilton, Marriott and Hyatt Chain hotels in SP.
As others have mentioned, Jardins is a preferred area if you like walking or a quicker Uber ride to destinations such as restaurants, bars, Ave. Paulista, malls, and even some incalls from online girls advertising on the popular sites like Private55, SPlove, and Clubmodel. I really don't venture out to clubs like Scandallo anymore, or at least I haven't in my last few trips, but you can access it with an Uber ride, just like Casarao and many others. Clinicas are an easy Uber ride from Jardins too.
In Jardins, for the Hilton chain, there's a new hotel called Qoya, it's off Alameda Santos and near Ave. Paulista. My observation is that the lobby is accessible after taking an elevator up one floor. It's new and modern, and good price. The elevator to the rooms does require a card, but you can easily wait for your "friend" at the lobby, no need to check her in, if you don't want to.
Thanks for the detailed update on girl-friendly hotels. I have stayed at all the ones you mention. Rooms at Qoya are a bit small but nice. There's also a well situated Canopy Hilton nearby with nicer rooms. Hilton Morumbi has the best rooms of the pack and view from their lounge is nice, while Renaissance has the best customer service but their rooms are dated. There's also a JW Marriott south of the Hyatt which is my best hotel at the moment, especially if you get a deal. The thing I hated at Hilton the last 2 times I was there last year is that they tried to charge me a USD 50 girl fee to bring someone up. I had to complain every time for them to remove the charge. I haven't been back since.
I have always been curious about the price range of the hookers who hang out at the high end hotel lobbies and bars. Anyone with experience?
Dustin3541
08-07-23, 13:56
I have a ton of IHG points and want to use them on an upcoming trip. Does anyone have intel on Intercontinental, Alameda Santos, Jardin Paulista. I want to be inva nice place, close enough to places like Scandallos, Bamboa, etc and be able to bring girls to my place for the night. Also I have read back 50 pages of reports but still do not understand what everyone means by consumables.
I have a ton of IHG points and want to use them on an upcoming trip. Does anyone have intel on Intercontinental, Alameda Santos, Jardin Paulista. I want to be inva nice place, close enough to places like Scandallos, Bamboa, etc and be able to bring girls to my place for the night. Also I have read back 50 pages of reports but still do not understand what everyone means by consumables.Have never stayed at the IC but I am sure you will be fine and remember to book for two people in your room. If they ask for the name of the guest, just tell the front desk she will come by later and register herself. Uber, google maps and google translate will be your best friends while in SP.
Consumables means whatever you consume in the bar and / or restaurant. It can be drinks and food for yourself or the girls.
Dustin3541
08-07-23, 19:23
Have never stayed at the IC but I am sure you will be fine and remember to book for two people in your room. If they ask for the name of the guest, just tell the front desk she will come by later and register herself. Uber, google maps and google translate will be your best friends while in SP.
Consumables means whatever you consume in the bar and / or restaurant. It can be drinks and food for yourself or the girls.So at Scandallos you pay entry fee upon arrival and they keep a tab somehow of consumables. How does that part work.
Also I have read back 50 pages of reports but still do not understand what everyone means by consumables.In the context of club entrada, Scandallo charges 500 to enter, 300 of the 500 can be used to buy drink and food.
It wasn't always double the price of a one-hour garota session. $270 x 2..Some like Prime charges only one room fee so it is not double.
Some like Prime charges only one room fee so it is not double.Nounce, thanks helpful to know because the duplo pricing is a great value.
One more why do the garotas say 'brasil' or 'Brasilia, before stating their names during presentation. I have a gpgua or wassap list of names to check. That part of the intro throws me off trying to remember her name. I just need to remember the name. The pretty face, sexy body, perfume is a good distraction. My big head short circuits as the little head takes over during presentations. Two seconds later, soon as the next hottie shows up. Damn forgot her name already. Haha. Only remeber the first words she whispers in sexy tones, gently kissing on my cheeks Brasilia.
Especially at places with deep lineups of Barbie blonde brancas, Abbobara. Hard to remember to write down all the names. Could not find wassap photos or on website either.
Axel Heyst
08-07-23, 21:17
I have a ton of IHG points and want to use them on an upcoming trip. Does anyone have intel on Intercontinental, Alameda Santos, Jardin Paulista. I want to be inva nice place, close enough to places like Scandallos, Bamboa, etc and be able to bring girls to my place for the night. Also I have read back 50 pages of reports but still do not understand what everyone means by consumables.I have stayed at the Intercontinental SP many times. I like the joint. It is a high quality, girl friendly, hotel in a great location.
FlappyGilmore0
08-07-23, 21:27
One thing I do to remember is repeat their name back to the one's I like. Sometimes I have to go slow and sound it out but it can help their name stick in the big head. Kkkk.
Nounce, thanks helpful to know because the duplo pricing is a great value.
One more why do the garotas say 'brasil' or 'Brasilia, before stating their names during presentation. I have a gpgua or wassap list of names to check. That part of the intro throws me off trying to remember her name. I just need to remember the name. The pretty face, sexy body, perfume is a good distraction. My big head short circuits as the little head takes over during presentations. Two seconds later, soon as the next hottie shows up. Damn forgot her name already. Haha. Only remeber the first words she whispers in sexy tones, gently kissing on my cheeks Brasilia.
Especially at places with deep lineups of Barbie blonde brancas, Abbobara. Hard to remember to write down all the names. Could not find wassap photos or on website either.
The easiest way for my learning style is to not even pay attention to the name girls that don't interest me right of the bat. I remember the names of girls that I find attractive and make a mental note of my short list. If a girl I like more appears I add her to the short list. It's made it so much easier. I realized what I was doing was trying to remember all the names and faces.
One thing I do to remember is repeat their name back to the one's I like. Sometimes I have to go slow and sound it out but it can help their name stick in the big head. Kkkk.
Nebulousity
08-08-23, 00:42
Nounce, thanks helpful to know because the duplo pricing is a great value.
One more why do the garotas say 'brasil' or 'Brasilia, before stating their names during presentation. I have a gpgua or wassap list of names to check. That part of the intro throws me off trying to remember her name. I just need to remember the name. The pretty face, sexy body, perfume is a good distraction. My big head short circuits as the little head takes over during presentations. Two seconds later, soon as the next hottie shows up. Damn forgot her name already. Haha. Only remeber the first words she whispers in sexy tones, gently kissing on my cheeks Brasilia.
Especially at places with deep lineups of Barbie blonde brancas, Abbobara. Hard to remember to write down all the names. Could not find wassap photos or on website either.They are saying "Prazer" which means "it's a pleasure" which is short for "it's a pleasure to meet you. ".
I have a ton of IHG points and want to use them on an upcoming trip. Does anyone have intel on Intercontinental, Alameda Santos, Jardin Paulista. I want to be inva nice place, close enough to places like Scandallos, Bamboa, etc and be able to bring girls to my place for the night. Also I have read back 50 pages of reports but still do not understand what everyone means by consumables.Like Axel Said, the intercon is a solid choice for a hotel. Good location and nice hotel. I have had them charge me some small amount to have a girl come to the room. I don't recall the price, but it was negligible.
They are saying "Prazer" which means "it's a pleasure" which is short for "it's a pleasure to meet you. ".I have heard both. They are clearly different. Next time I am going stop the girl and ask what she says.
Especially at places with deep lineups of Barbie blonde brancas, Abbobara. Hard to remember to write down all the names. Could not find wassap photos or on website either.For my taste, I don't feel Abbobara is that much better than others. I don't see many blondes either. I usually just told them I want the girl wearing red dress or the tall negra with tattoos.
Good news is that they seem to have a new reception that is much nicer. LOL.
Axel Heyst
08-08-23, 22:58
Well, I am glad to hear I am not the only mother fucker with memory issues that pop up during a typical clinica lineup. KKK. There is only one solution that works for me. Pen & paper: I always write down the names of potential girls of interest as soon as they turn to walk away before the next one walks through the door causing me to forget the names of the previous girls that were of some interest.
In this one respect, Thai oily massage parlors are better than SP clinicas. In the oilies, all the available girls are gathered together and stand in front of the customer or customers at the same time. No need for intros and names. Just point and shoot.
But don't get me wrong. I am big fan of SP Clinicas and I have met a lot of real nice girls in these bordellos. IMHO the clinicas offer the best bang for the buck in town.
What rates are people getting from the exchanges? Dollar to Real?
I wonder whether two paraguayan sisters who look like twins are still working at Scandallo. They are both brunettes, white skin, around 25 why / o, silicon boobs and ass but dressed very short white dresses with good taste. They look colombian promo models at the first sight but with very white skins and red lips.
I had the chance to have a very fun conversation in spanish in the restaurant last June with both after sessioning with other hottie. Unfortunately I had enough that night already and could not afford them together for R2500 (1250 each their first price). They had argentinian accent and spoke very little porto. They were hot, no doubt. Never had enough time to ask their instas or whatsapps for free, so no picture to illustrate this post.
The second night I only saw one of them while I was waiting my room with a very fun girl. And she was with a tall handsome local guy who looked like a volleyball player and paid her R800 from his credit card. I heard it clear because she was on the next line. I suppose she accepted a lower payment because the guy was a handsome brazilian and it was very late. Around 4:30 am.
Those sisters are on my to do list for sure!
So this was my first ever time in Sao Paulo and my second trip to Brazil (went to Rio last year for the first time. I wrote up a report for that trip you can search for in the Rio thread if interested). I went in with high expectations and despite getting off to a rocky start, on reflection it definitely lived up to my expectations. In this report I'll focus on the girls / sessions I had, hopefully paint a picture of a small sample of what is available in SP.
I stayed in the Moema area (near the clinicas) for around 2 weeks.
Abbobora - white, heavily tattoed, big fake ass girl (300 BRL 1 hour).
So I landed on a Friday morning, checked in to my airbnb and headed for a tour of the clinicas with my boy. I'd say Abbobora is one of the nicer clinicas with possibly the best quality and number of girls. I ended up choosing a brunette girl with a big fake ass and tons of tattoos. The session was okay but nothing amazing and her ass was too hard / muscular for me. 6/10.
Scandallo Tall mulatta (600 BRL 1 hour).
In the evening we headed to Scandallo, making it just in time before 7 pm so we paid 300 BRL instead of 500 BRL to get in. For me Scandallo absolutely lives up to the hype, it's a huge place and there must have been 100+ girls. Even just sitting in the restaurant enjoying some food with friends and taking in the atmosphere is a great experience. I felt spoilt for choice and didn't end up choosing a girl until around 10 pm when I picked a tall mulatta with long, straight black hair, pretty face, big white teeth, big lips, a few tattoos and what looked like a big bunda. We talked for a while and flirted in the patio area and agreed on 600 BRL for an hour. Unfortunately when we went up to get a room the b1 tch tried to play dumb and act like we didn't agree on 600 and tried to demand 800. She even had the balls to say she meant 600 USD which makes zero sense. Anyway after 5 minutes of arguing about it in front of everyone there, she finally gave in when she realised I was just going to walk away unless she did 600 for the hour. So already the session was off to a bad start. When we got to the room I was disappointed when her dress came off and she was skinnier than she looked. Her dress really made her ass look bigger than it actually was.
So we're into the session, her BJ was good and we fucked in a few different positions. She was somewhat making up for the BS earlier and it was going well. Then when we changed positions she started her period and blood went everywhere, completely killed the vibe. I should have just ended the session there and got some of my money back but I wasn't thinking straight so continued after she cleaned up in the shower. I said let's switch to anal now and just to top things off she didn't have any lube with her. I assumed that meant no anal but nope somehow she was fine with me forcing my dick in to her raw ass with no lube. It was way too tight and dry to be enjoyable so after 5 minutes of uncomfortable anal I just told her to suck my balls and finished myself off. To be fair she did apologise about the period and her attitude was good apart from trying to scam more money. Went home feeling pretty disappointed after my first day in SP.
Saw this girl again in Scandallo the next time we went there. She was all friendly and apologised again. Then when I saw her as I was leaving she asked if I would pay for her entrance fee. I guess she was hoping I might be drunk or high and just randomly agree to pay 300 BRL for nothing?
Abbobora Frizzy haired light skinned mulatta (300 BRL 1 hour).
Next session was at Abbobora again after checking the line ups at all the clinicas. I picked a frizzy haired very light skinned mulatta with a tight body. Her BJ skills were very good. Lots of spit and deepthroating. I brought my own lube this time and we had some enjoyable anal. Busted two nuts in the hour. Overall was a decent session but she was on the smaller side and I prefer big girls. Also the condom slipped off once while she was on top, thankfully I didn't catch anything.
Cassarao Pretty light skin mulatta (400? BRL 1 hour).
Cassarao is like a trashier scandallo. Much cheaper but also less girls and overall lower quality. I spotted this very pretty light skinned girl and took her to a room after agreeing price and services. This girl was skinnier than my usual type again. I was starting to get the feeling that SP doesn't have thick girls because I hadn't seen any truly thick ones so far. This girl did not know how to suck dick at all. I genuinely thought she was joking when she first started. She was sucking it like a clueless virgin sucking dick for the first time, just licking the tip very slowly and cautiously, so strange. Shortly after we started fucking she started her period so we had to stop and shower. We fucked some more then switched to anal. Only busted once in the hour, just wasn't feeling it.
I was off to a bad start. My first four sessions in SP had all been average and two of the girls had had their period. Thankfully my luck now started to turn around.
Online girl Lidia (300 BRL 1 hour).
I decided I needed to take control and turn things around so started looking online to find the kind of girl I'd been looking for. Came across a girl called Lidia on Photo Accomphanantes. Long black hair, very dark tan, pretty face, big fake tits, big bunda and wide hips. Not sure what race she was exactly, I don't think she was black or mulatta, she looked maybe native? I met her in her hotel room and paid 300 BRL for the hour. It was a great session, she had a huge bunda that I oiled up and fucked her for pretty much the entire hour. Unfortunately she wouldn't do anal but it was still a great session. Finally I had broken my streak of bad sessions. I got her number and was planning to see her again but never got around to it.
Campinas Mulatta Carioca.
Took a trip with the boys to this place in Campinas, I think it's called Fazendinha? After a 1. 5 hour drive we reached the place. It's a big secure compound with a club and an outdoor pool area where the girls hang out. Pretty cool place and I like the idea of seeing the girls in bikinis rather than dresses so you can scope out their body. Was somewhat disappointing because most of the girls were still wearing sundresses not bikinis. I also tend to prefer the darker skinned girls and there were only two available out of maybe 20-25 girls. One was a stunning, model looking girl. One of the prettiest girls I saw in SP. She had a great body and beautiful face, she almost looked Thai / asian. Unfortunately that girl went with a guy shortly after we arrived, and when she was finally free again my buddy got in there first and scooped her up. She spoke really good English and he said the session was amazing. So I was left with the other black girl who had a slightly ugly face but a very nice ass and she was wearing a red bikini that showed off her curves nicely. So we agreed on the price and headed to the room.
After quickly showering, this is where it went south. The dumb b1 tch tried to make me put a condom on for the BJ. I told her straightaway if she does that I'm just going to end the session immediately. After a couple of minutes of protesting I started getting dressed and she suddenly was fine with no condom so I stayed. Then it just got worse. After a decent BJ I started fucking her in doggy. Then she had her period everywhere. Yes, this was the 3rd time this happened. I was so pissed I instantly told her the session is over and got dressed to leave. She asked me to still pay her something, I refused and walked out. The staff gave me a refund for the room when I told them what had happened. Went home feeling pretty frustrated but I would still recommend this place. I was just unlucky again with my choice of girl.
Online girl Isa dark skinned black girl (500 BRL 1 hour).
I found another online girl and this ended up being one of the best sessions of my life. She came over to my airbnb and I was praying the pictures weren't fake. This girl was dark skinned black with straight black hair and her body was insane. Absolutely huge natural tits that weren't saggy at all somehow despite how heavy and big they are. Thick curvy body with a big ass too. She also had a cute face to boot. This is the kind of girl I dream of. Great BJ, great sex in all positions. Amazing anal too and totally clean. I should have seen her again but I messed up and she had left SP to another city. Will 100% try to see her next time I visit.
Connection club. Jennifer mulatta (600 BRL 2 hours).
Met this cute mulatta in connection. Very cute face, GND type. Frizzy hair, nice boobs, nice ass. We played pool and flirted in connection but I didn't session there. Had her over to my airbnb for a couple of hours the next day in the afternoon. She fucked like a champ, great energy and also enjoyed anal. Even with the a / see blasting we were both dripping with sweat. The type of session where you feel 100% satisfied after, you just want to lay back and relax and not even think about sex for a long time.
Brooklin club. Suany dark skinned carioca (180 BRL 30 minutes).
Brooklin is a small club / strip club that's worth checking out. Cheap and had maybe 10+ girls when we went there. I ended up sessioning with a dark skinned black girl with long straight black hair, slightly chubby / thick body with a fat ass. Was a good session overall, good BJ and good anal.
Scandallo Emanuelle, fat ass Kardashian lookalike (600 BRL 1 hour, then 1800 BRL for overnight).
My second visit to Scandallo was thankfully a big success. This girl caught my eye walking past. She had long black hair, big fake lips, pretty face but in a bitchy / bimbo way (think Kylie Jenner). Absolutely huge sloppy ass and when I say sloppy I mean that in a good way. You can tell by the way it moves when she walks how soft and jiggly it is. In the room my jaw hit the floor when she took off her dress. Her ass was unreal. I'm not sure if she had a BBL or not but if she did it was very well done. Her boobs were very small but I don't care when the ass is that good. For me this girl is a 9 or 10 out of 10. The sex was awesome. The sight of her huge oiled ass pushing back in doggy was insane. She also had a perfect tight asshole and took anal like a pro.
Another night my buddy had a suite at a nice hotel that he kindly let me borrow for an evening so I had this girl over for the night. This was one of the craziest nights of my life, fucking a girl like this as much as I want for hours in a big luxury suite, I felt on top of the world. This could only happen in Brazil guys.
Overall I had an amazing first time in SP despite having several bad sessions. Mostly due to bad luck with girls periods! Next time I visit it will be even better.Nice report. I think I found the same Isa Bombom you are talking about. Ill be in Sao Paulo on Thursday. I ask her how uch for an hour, she told me $R700. I will negotiate lower. Thanks.
Well, I am glad to hear I am not the only mother fucker with memory issues that pop up during a typical clinica lineup. KKK. There is only one solution that works for me. Pen & paper: I always write down the names of potential girls of interest as soon as they turn to walk away before the next one walks through the door causing me to forget the names of the previous girls that were of some interest.
In this one respect, Thai oily massage parlors are better than SP clinicas. In the oilies, all the available girls are gathered together and stand in front of the customer or customers at the same time. No need for intros and names. Just point and shoot.
But don't get me wrong. I am big fan of SP Clinicas and I have met a lot of real nice girls in these bordellos. IMHO the clinicas offer the best bang for the buck in town.For those SP Clinicas, without wassap photos, I tried writing the names. But after 12 or 15 garotas my list says "Prazer" or "Brasilia" five times haha, or kkk. Too much work while drinking whiskey, just need a name. Shout out to guys that keep mental track.
I say frak it and go for a Duplo session with two names on the notebook at the front desk.
Cool, I like the idea of clothing a red dress, will give that a try.
I best remember Garotas after getting their wassap or Instagram much easier for next time.
Agree the soapy, oily lineups in BKK or by lineup by country in Jarkata works for me. Think sometimes they have numbers too.
Appreciate Tangar, Prime, Yankin, Enjoy for posting pics, names, promotions.
Steve 9696
08-09-23, 11:25
For those SP Clinicas, without wassap photos, I tried writing the names. But after 12 or 15 garotas my list says "Prazer" or "Brasilia" five times haha, or kkk. Too much work while drinking whiskey, just need a name. Shout out to guys that keep mental track.
I say frak it and go for a Duplo session with two names on the notebook at the front desk.
Cool, I like the idea of clothing a red dress, will give that a try.
I best remember Garotas after getting their wassap or Instagram much easier for next time.
Agree the soapy, oily lineups in BKK or by lineup by country in Jarkata works for me. Think sometimes they have numbers too.
Appreciate Tangar, Prime, Yankin, Enjoy for posting pics, names, promotions. You are making it too hard! You don't need to remember but one name! It's called bubble sort in computers. Each girl presented you decide whether you like her better than all previous. If you do you remember her name and you keep her name in your head till a hottie replaces her. Then you remember her name and keep it. You only have to remember one name at a time ever. In the end go with the last name in your head. At least that's how I do it.
PS they are most certainly saying Prazer. It is the short form of muito prazer which means nice to meet u. I’ve also had girls say “tutabain” which is really “tudo bem” and translates as “how ya doin”.
Axel Heyst
08-09-23, 17:06
For those SP Clinicas, without wassap photos, I tried writing the names. But after 12 or 15 garotas my list says "Prazer" or "Brasilia" five times haha, or kkk. Too much work while drinking whiskey, just need a name. Shout out to guys that keep mental track.I think you are talking about a separate issue. I only save the names and contact numbers of girls I have shagged and liked even though I know I will most likely not get back to most of the girls because there is never enough time to repeat with every good girl I shag and still meet new girls which I crave. But, I feel it is the friendly thing to do after an enjoyable session ie trade whatsup numbers with a friendly, attractive girl.
I say frak it and go for a Duplo session with two names on the notebook at the front desk.
Appreciate Tangar, Prime, Yankin, Enjoy for posting pics, names, promotions.I admire your daring and risk taking, Tochka. KKK. I like 3 ways as much as anyone, but what I have learned thru experience is to take my time and line up a menage a trois slowly for the best results. Historically, my favorite 3 way connections always began with my having established a good repeat relationship with one girl and over time meeting and liking one of her girlfriends. Sooner or later the 2 girls make the 3 way offer and va va voom, away we go. My favorite 3 ways were with #3. Two Bottoms Go Go girls in Manila, #2. Two Crazyhouse girls in BKK, and my #1 all time favorite 3 way was with 2 Scandallo girls, one of which is Valerie, my current favorite girl in all of Brazil. Ha Ha. The 3 ways with my Manila girls and with my BKK girls lasted for a few years until in both situations one of the girls started thinking about marriage and then things unraveled and went downhill until I ended it. KKK.
Among the multiple risks you are assuming by selecting 2 clinica girls randomly off a list aside from the distinct possibility that you might not like the girls looks when you see them, is that one of the girls may not be into the other girl. In which case the sex becomes sequential and separate ie doing the 1st girl, rinsing, and then doing the 2nd. A real 3 way is when all three parties interact and are involved with one another at the same time. I just think that might be hard to get from a random selection of names in a clinica. On the other hand, you must have enjoyed some success with your approach, so rock on.
A. H.
This is a great review! Very helpful!! I myself I'm into mulattos and black girls with big phat asses that are natural. Seems like you have similar taste. I've been to Rio so many times I can't even count but I've never been. To Sao Paolo outside of the airport. I always wondered if this city had the type of talent that I like or was it mainly white Brazilian chicks. Based on your report it seems Sao Paolo may be worth checking out!! Thanks!!
So this was my first ever time in Sao Paulo and my second trip to Brazil (went to Rio last year for the first time. I wrote up a report for that trip you can search for in the Rio thread if interested). I went in with high expectations and despite getting off to a rocky start, on reflection it definitely lived up to my expectations. In this report I'll focus on the girls / sessions I had, hopefully paint a picture of a small sample of what is available in SP.
I stayed in the Moema area (near the clinicas) for around 2 weeks.
Abbobora - white, heavily tattoed, big fake ass girl (300 BRL 1 hour).
So I landed on a Friday morning, checked in to my airbnb and headed for a tour of the clinicas with my boy. I'd say Abbobora is one of the nicer clinicas with possibly the best quality and number of girls. I ended up choosing a brunette girl with a big fake ass and tons of tattoos. The session was okay but nothing amazing and her ass was too hard / muscular for me. 6/10.
Scandallo Tall mulatta (600 BRL 1 hour).
In the evening we headed to Scandallo, making it just in time before 7 pm so we paid 300 BRL instead of 500 BRL to get in. For me Scandallo absolutely lives up to the hype, it's a huge place and there must have been 100+ girls. Even just sitting in the restaurant enjoying some food with friends and taking in the atmosphere is a great experience. I felt spoilt for choice and didn't end up choosing a girl until around 10 pm when I picked a tall mulatta with long, straight black hair, pretty face, big white teeth, big lips, a few tattoos and what looked like a big bunda. We talked for a while and flirted in the patio area and agreed on 600 BRL for an hour. Unfortunately when we went up to get a room the b1 tch tried to play dumb and act like we didn't agree on 600 and tried to demand 800. She even had the balls to say she meant 600 USD which makes zero sense. Anyway after 5 minutes of arguing about it in front of everyone there, she finally gave in when she realised I was just going to walk away unless she did 600 for the hour. So already the session was off to a bad start. When we got to the room I was disappointed when her dress came off and she was skinnier than she looked. Her dress really made her ass look bigger than it actually was.
So we're into the session, her BJ was good and we fucked in a few different positions. She was somewhat making up for the BS earlier and it was going well. Then when we changed positions she started her period and blood went everywhere, completely killed the vibe. I should have just ended the session there and got some of my money back but I wasn't thinking straight so continued after she cleaned up in the shower. I said let's switch to anal now and just to top things off she didn't have any lube with her. I assumed that meant no anal but nope somehow she was fine with me forcing my dick in to her raw ass with no lube. It was way too tight and dry to be enjoyable so after 5 minutes of uncomfortable anal I just told her to suck my balls and finished myself off. To be fair she did apologise about the period and her attitude was good apart from trying to scam more money. Went home feeling pretty disappointed after my first day in SP.
Saw this girl again in Scandallo the next time we went there. She was all friendly and apologised again. Then when I saw her as I was leaving she asked if I would pay for her entrance fee. I guess she was hoping I might be drunk or high and just randomly agree to pay 300 BRL for nothing?
Abbobora Frizzy haired light skinned mulatta (300 BRL 1 hour).
Next session was at Abbobora again after checking the line ups at all the clinicas. I picked a frizzy haired very light skinned mulatta with a tight body. Her BJ skills were very good. Lots of spit and deepthroating. I brought my own lube this time and we had some enjoyable anal. Busted two nuts in the hour. Overall was a decent session but she was on the smaller side and I prefer big girls. Also the condom slipped off once while she was on top, thankfully I didn't catch anything.
Cassarao Pretty light skin mulatta (400? BRL 1 hour).
Cassarao is like a trashier scandallo. Much cheaper but also less girls and overall lower quality. I spotted this very pretty light skinned girl and took her to a room after agreeing price and services. This girl was skinnier than my usual type again. I was starting to get the feeling that SP doesn't have thick girls because I hadn't seen any truly thick ones so far. This girl did not know how to suck dick at all. I genuinely thought she was joking when she first started. She was sucking it like a clueless virgin sucking dick for the first time, just licking the tip very slowly and cautiously, so strange. Shortly after we started fucking she started her period so we had to stop and shower. We fucked some more then switched to anal. Only busted once in the hour, just wasn't feeling it.
I was off to a bad start. My first four sessions in SP had all been average and two of the girls had had their period. Thankfully my luck now started to turn around.
Online girl Lidia (300 BRL 1 hour).
I decided I needed to take control and turn things around so started looking online to find the kind of girl I'd been looking for. Came across a girl called Lidia on Photo Accomphanantes. Long black hair, very dark tan, pretty face, big fake tits, big bunda and wide hips. Not sure what race she was exactly, I don't think she was black or mulatta, she looked maybe native? I met her in her hotel room and paid 300 BRL for the hour. It was a great session, she had a huge bunda that I oiled up and fucked her for pretty much the entire hour. Unfortunately she wouldn't do anal but it was still a great session. Finally I had broken my streak of bad sessions. I got her number and was planning to see her again but never got around to it.
Campinas Mulatta Carioca.
Took a trip with the boys to this place in Campinas, I think it's called Fazendinha? After a 1. 5 hour drive we reached the place. It's a big secure compound with a club and an outdoor pool area where the girls hang out. Pretty cool place and I like the idea of seeing the girls in bikinis rather than dresses so you can scope out their body. Was somewhat disappointing because most of the girls were still wearing sundresses not bikinis. I also tend to prefer the darker skinned girls and there were only two available out of maybe 20-25 girls. One was a stunning, model looking girl. One of the prettiest girls I saw in SP. She had a great body and beautiful face, she almost looked Thai / asian. Unfortunately that girl went with a guy shortly after we arrived, and when she was finally free again my buddy got in there first and scooped her up. She spoke really good English and he said the session was amazing. So I was left with the other black girl who had a slightly ugly face but a very nice ass and she was wearing a red bikini that showed off her curves nicely. So we agreed on the price and headed to the room.
After quickly showering, this is where it went south. The dumb b1 tch tried to make me put a condom on for the BJ. I told her straightaway if she does that I'm just going to end the session immediately. After a couple of minutes of protesting I started getting dressed and she suddenly was fine with no condom so I stayed. Then it just got worse. After a decent BJ I started fucking her in doggy. Then she had her period everywhere. Yes, this was the 3rd time this happened. I was so pissed I instantly told her the session is over and got dressed to leave. She asked me to still pay her something, I refused and walked out. The staff gave me a refund for the room when I told them what had happened. Went home feeling pretty frustrated but I would still recommend this place. I was just unlucky again with my choice of girl.
Online girl Isa dark skinned black girl (500 BRL 1 hour).
I found another online girl and this ended up being one of the best sessions of my life. She came over to my airbnb and I was praying the pictures weren't fake. This girl was dark skinned black with straight black hair and her body was insane. Absolutely huge natural tits that weren't saggy at all somehow despite how heavy and big they are. Thick curvy body with a big ass too. She also had a cute face to boot. This is the kind of girl I dream of. Great BJ, great sex in all positions. Amazing anal too and totally clean. I should have seen her again but I messed up and she had left SP to another city. Will 100% try to see her next time I visit.
Connection club. Jennifer mulatta (600 BRL 2 hours).
Met this cute mulatta in connection. Very cute face, GND type. Frizzy hair, nice boobs, nice ass. We played pool and flirted in connection but I didn't session there. Had her over to my airbnb for a couple of hours the next day in the afternoon. She fucked like a champ, great energy and also enjoyed anal. Even with the a / see blasting we were both dripping with sweat. The type of session where you feel 100% satisfied after, you just want to lay back and relax and not even think about sex for a long time.
Brooklin club. Suany dark skinned carioca (180 BRL 30 minutes).
Brooklin is a small club / strip club that's worth checking out. Cheap and had maybe 10+ girls when we went there. I ended up sessioning with a dark skinned black girl with long straight black hair, slightly chubby / thick body with a fat ass. Was a good session overall, good BJ and good anal.
Scandallo Emanuelle, fat ass Kardashian lookalike (600 BRL 1 hour, then 1800 BRL for overnight).
My second visit to Scandallo was thankfully a big success. This girl caught my eye walking past. She had long black hair, big fake lips, pretty face but in a bitchy / bimbo way (think Kylie Jenner). Absolutely huge sloppy ass and when I say sloppy I mean that in a good way. You can tell by the way it moves when she walks how soft and jiggly it is. In the room my jaw hit the floor when she took off her dress. Her ass was unreal. I'm not sure if she had a BBL or not but if she did it was very well done. Her boobs were very small but I don't care when the ass is that good. For me this girl is a 9 or 10 out of 10. The sex was awesome. The sight of her huge oiled ass pushing back in doggy was insane. She also had a perfect tight asshole and took anal like a pro.
Another night my buddy had a suite at a nice hotel that he kindly let me borrow for an evening so I had this girl over for the night. This was one of the craziest nights of my life, fucking a girl like this as much as I want for hours in a big luxury suite, I felt on top of the world. This could only happen in Brazil guys.
Overall I had an amazing first time in SP despite having several bad sessions. Mostly due to bad luck with girls periods! Next time I visit it will be even better.
Hello gents, I will be back in Brazil 1 week from today. Last time was 2021. I have a list of clinicas that I want to visit or revisit. Would you kindly rank these places from best to worst? I would also like to know the prices if you happen to remember. Thanks guys.
Prime.
Miruna.
Indy.
Moaci.
Enjoy.
57 friends.
Abbobora.
Tangará.
Yankin.
Brooklin.
I think you are talking about a separate issue. I only save the names and contact numbers of girls ....I could be wrong. I read that hs is talking about WhatsApp status update from clinica that shows pictures of the day's line up like the attached. Prime has girls working in pair who are familiar with each other, one example attached. I think that is what he is talking about.
Anyway, this information will be useful for people who don't understand.
I could be wrong. I read that hs is talking about WhatsApp status update from clinica that shows pictures of the day's line up like the attached. Prime has girls working in pair who are familiar with each other, one example attached. I think that is what he is talking about.
Anyway, this information will be useful for people who don't understand.Thanks everyone for the useful tips about names, clinica presentations and duplos.
Tangar list of chica names is thirty two 32 garotas long!
Lets frakin dive in, rock on and keep the head up (no viagra) in those SP clinicas.
Axel Heyst
08-11-23, 13:56
I could be wrong. I read that hs is talking about WhatsApp status update from clinica that shows pictures of the day's line up like the attached. Prime has girls working in pair who are familiar with each other, one example attached. I think that is what he is talking about.
Anyway, this information will be useful for people who don't understand.Yeah, we were both talking about different clinicas. I was referring specifically to Abbobora which is my favorite regular SP clinica and to which, to the best of my knowledge, does not offer a website with pics of the day's girls.
I am glad to hear that Tochka is having a great time doing 3 ways in various SP clinicas. But I still believe my much, much slower method, outlined in my previous post, yields better, far more consistent results ie bisexual menage a trois with 2 girls of my choosing and where the girls are doing it for real with me and each other. But to each his own. All that really matters is that Tochka is having a good time.
Still, I remember a famous bordello I used to occasionally frequent pre-covid in Pat called Devils Den. The main selling point at Devils Den was customers HAD to choose 2 girls per session and the girls were trained to be very naughty. Sounds good, right, but the problem was finding 2 girls that I wanted to shag. Most times I went there it was one good looking girl matched with her friend who wasn't so good looking. HA HA, and so I had mixed experiences at the joint. But then I met a DD girl who was a real beauty. Fortunately for me, house rules allowed for takeout of single girls for an additional fee of course. 555. So, this girl became one of my favorite repeat regulars for a couple of years whenever I was in Pat and I stopped doing 3 ways at DD.
Hello gents, I will be back in Brazil 1 week from today. Last time was 2021. I have a list of clinicas that I want to visit or revisit. Would you kindly rank these places from best to worst? I would also like to know the prices if you happen to remember. Thanks guys....Been to most of them, the most expensive one I have been to on your list is Abbobora that is 330 cash now. The previous report says it is 300/ HR that probably is incorrect. The least expensive is Targara. It's 150/30 minutes that is up from 120/30 min. Quantitywise, Tangara has the most gilrs. It has 37 yesterday (Tochka missed 5). The other clinicas have like low 10's. Keep in mind, this is only yesterday. It varies daily. Members have mentioned that the 4 popluar clinicas in Moema are owned by the same owner. You can see the same girls and receptions at different clinicas too.
Many have said Abbobora has the best quality. I am not going to disagree with it. For me, I don't see it that way as I only need 1 or 2. My first clinica is Abbobora but I was disappointed with the service. My most recent visit several days ago, there was only one and a half out of about 8 that I liked. I picked Viviane but she does not kiss and seems reluctant to do BBBJ so I rejected her and picked the next best who was great. I give her name so whoever is interested and have seen her can know my taste that is not far off from most. She can easily be one of the prettiest top 5 girls among all clinicas right now. She has a pretty face, kind of slender but with hourglass like body with big bunda. I met the prettiest girl at Tangara, The hottest at Tagara's sister prive Vani. The best sex is also at Tangara and Vani with the same girl haha. I know I can easily be refuted but like I said I only need one or two.
Been to most of them, the most expensive one I have been to on your list is Abbobora that is 330 cash now. The previous report says it is 300/ HR that probably is incorrect. The least expensive is Targara. It's 150/30 minutes that is up from 120/30 min. Quantitywise, Tangara has the most gilrs. It has 37 yesterday (Tochka missed 5). The other clinicas have like low 10's. Keep in mind, this is only yesterday. It varies daily. Members have mentioned that the 4 popluar clinicas in Moema are owned by the same owner. You can see the same girls and receptions at different clinicas too.
Many have said Abbobora has the best quality. I am not going to disagree with it. For me, I don't see it that way as I only need 1 or 2. My first clinica is Abbobora but I was disappointed with the service. My most recent visit several days ago, there was only one and a half out of about 8 that I liked. I picked Viviane but she does not kiss and seems reluctant to do BBBJ so I rejected her and picked the next best who was great. I give her name so whoever is interested and have seen her can know my taste that is not far off from most. She can easily be one of the prettiest top 5 girls among all clinicas right now. She has a pretty face, kind of slender but with hourglass like body with big bunda. I met the prettiest girl at Tangara, The hottest at Tagara's sister prive Vani. The best sex is also at Tangara and Vani with the same girl haha. I know I can easily be refuted but like I said I only need one or two.Thanks Nounce, looks like I will be visiting the two places you mentioned. I looked up Vani, it has been mentioned a few times here. Is it a place worth checking out? And could you tell me a little about Prime, Miruna and Yankin little? I went to EnjoySpa and had a blast. How is EnjoySpa these days?
How can an American legally open a clinica in São Paulo?
SlapShot10
08-12-23, 18:18
What would you recommend for a quick 2-night stop in SP?
Arriving Thursday evening, leaving Saturday morning. I saw Renaissance Hotel as a suggestion, but it appears to be 20+ minutes from Scandallo. Check-in, shower, Scandallo on night one? Or save it for night two? Stay closer to Scandallo to save on travel time? Any restaurants or other prives that should be at the top of the list? I think trying to stay in one central area is the best plan for a short trip, but open to ideas.
Much appreciated!
I don't think distance (within reason) from Scandallo is very important because rush hour will be over when you you make your way there. If you want to do anything during the daytime Moema is a good option because you would be within a short walk of more clinicas than you could manage to visit during a two day trip. As for restaurants of interest, Japanese and steak places are the type that are above average internationally. A practical note you should be aware of is the yellow fever vaccine requirement for people younger than 65 who travel directdly from Brazil to either Colombia or Panama. You need certification to have had one at least 72 hours before your travel time, or you need a doctor's exemption note. Travel safely and enjoy your visit.
What would you recommend for a quick 2-night stop in SP?
Arriving Thursday evening, leaving Saturday morning. I saw Renaissance Hotel as a suggestion, but it appears to be 20+ minutes from Scandallo. Check-in, shower, Scandallo on night one? Or save it for night two? Stay closer to Scandallo to save on travel time? Any restaurants or other prives that should be at the top of the list? I think trying to stay in one central area is the best plan for a short trip, but open to ideas.
Much appreciated!
Axel Heyst
08-12-23, 19:30
What would you recommend for a quick 2-night stop in SP?
Arriving Thursday evening, leaving Saturday morning. I saw Renaissance Hotel as a suggestion, but it appears to be 20+ minutes from Scandallo. Check-in, shower, Scandallo on night one? Or save it for night two? Stay closer to Scandallo to save on travel time? Any restaurants or other prives that should be at the top of the list? I think trying to stay in one central area is the best plan for a short trip, but open to ideas.
The time of arrival is kind of important as far as mapping out great 2 night strategy. If I were arriving early in the day, Scandallo would be my 1st destination unless I just had to hit up a clinica in the afternoon in which case Scandallo would be my 2nd destination od the day. KKK. Thursdays are usually one of the best nights of the week as far as number of girls and the quality at Scandallo. I like to go there around 9:30 pm. But if I were arriving in SP in the late afternoon or evening, I would probably relax after the flight in my hotel room and hit Casarao Thursday night instead. The best time to go to Casarao is a little before midnight.
On Friday afternoon I highly recommend a clinica. RTFF back about 6 months to see many informative clinica reviews by BM's.
On Friday night I suggest you go wherever you want just as long as you spend at least one night of your visit at Scadallo. So for Friday night I would choose either Scandallo, Bomboa, or Casarao. Or possibly I would hit Scandallo or Bomboa early and then head over to Casarao later and make the evening a 2 fer.
As far as SP hotels are concerned: there are a lot of very acceptable, accommodating, girl friendly 4* & 5* hotels available in interesting and safe neighborhoods. But if money is no object or if you are like me and have points and voucher nights, stay at the Renaissance, the Intercontinental, or Tivoli Mofarrej. Coincidentally, these 3 are all on Alameda Santos.
Steve 9696
08-12-23, 20:09
What would you recommend for a quick 2-night stop in SP?
Arriving Thursday evening, leaving Saturday morning. I saw Renaissance Hotel as a suggestion, but it appears to be 20+ minutes from Scandallo. Check-in, shower, Scandallo on night one? Or save it for night two? Stay closer to Scandallo to save on travel time? Any restaurants or other prives that should be at the top of the list? I think trying to stay in one central area is the best plan for a short trip, but open to ideas.
Much appreciated!Don't sweat 20 minutes travel. Can't get anywhere in SP in less than 20 minutes. LOL. And Uber is super cheap. That will prob cost you less than 10 bucks. Maybe even 5. You might try Bomboa your other night. I haven't been post pandemic but it seems well reviewed and a high class place tho smaller than Scandallo and more supper club than night club format.
UniversalX
08-13-23, 04:39
I was off to a bad start. My first four sessions in SP had all been average and two of the girls had had their period. Thankfully my luck now started to turn around.
Then she had her period everywhere. Yes, this was the 3rd time this happened.
Overall I had an amazing first time in SP despite having several bad sessions. Mostly due to bad luck with girls periods! Next time I visit it will be even better.IMHO this is disrespectful. These GDP's must know they are either close to starting or have started their period and should let you know it's a possibility it may start or has started. If they could be upfront then you could just ask for alternate services such as BJ only or Anal, etc. And avoid the mess.
They know better ......They know when their period starts and ends.
We've already produced 2 sexy shots till now with this lovely brunette. Paid all of them. Yes, first met her as an escort and we're kind of friends now. I finally convinced her to masked XXX video we will produce in few weeks.
Look at the Tv so you can check this is Sao Paulo and a true brazilian bunda.
I didn't loose my producer touch, did I? Hehehehe I must admit it. I love asses.
Thanks Nounce, looks like I will be visiting the two places you mentioned. I looked up Vani, it has been mentioned a few times here. Is it a place worth checking out? And could you tell me a little about Prime, Miruna and Yankin little? I went to EnjoySpa and had a blast. How is EnjoySpa these days?I would not go to Vani. The lineup usually is weak. The reason I went is because the girl I met at Tangara works there during weekday.
The reasons I went to Tangara initially is because the large selection and often they have more new girls, open earlier and close later that fits my schedule a little better. The girls in general perform better for me too and I can find more thin girls there. The place has a local vibe that I like. The managers are more friendly. The price may seen like a factor but given that I have florsita discount at most other clinicas. The difference for 1 hour is are $10 for one hour and Tangara is out of the way. If I don't find what I like here, I would Uber to Moema after.
There were not many girls at Enjoy in my recent visit. Julie who also works at 57 house was working there. She is very friendly and she speaks English.
I did not go to Prime. Prime is not my first choice because it is popular and I don't have time during daytime to compete with other mongers or wait around. Sometimes it is like playing chess that you have to position yourself so you are the first one to be greeted by the girl. LOL. Anyway, I usually don't stay nearby so I went mostly during weekend or when I was certain about a girl and schedule it in advance.
Never been to Yankin.
Keep in mind that I don't visit clinicas frequently because it does not fit my hours so my observation can be see as one off. That maybe why I have not seen Abbodora with 20+ girls like some GPG
reviews described or the line up some GPG members talk about. I am here several months a year so I also accumulate enough experience.
What would you recommend for a quick 2-night stop in SP?
Arriving Thursday evening, leaving Saturday morning. I saw Renaissance Hotel as a suggestion, but it appears to be 20+ minutes from Scandallo. Check-in, shower, Scandallo on night one? Or save it for night two? Stay closer to Scandallo to save on travel time? Any restaurants or other prives that should be at the top of the list? I think trying to stay in one central area is the best plan for a short trip, but open to ideas.
Much appreciated!Scandallo is far from everywhere so that is a given. I assume you don't come alone. Moema has a few Swinger clubs. Friday should be a good night for the club like Asha. If you want to visit both clinica / prive and swinger club, then somewhere close to Moema will be more "central". It is also not far from Bomboa.
The main advantage with Renaissance probably is you can find fine dinning in walking distance but it depends which restaurant you want to go. Moema has many good restaurants as well. Usually Japanese, Italian or Thai restaurants are all pretty good in Sao Paulo.
Moema is on flight path. This has been mentioned frequently. Just look at google map and extend the runway on the map and you will know where you will get the most noise. I have stood outside near Shopping Ibirapuera and watch the fight coming and going and they more or less match the orientation of the runway.
Scandallo is far from everywhere so that is a given. I assume you don't come alone. Moema has a few Swinger clubs. Friday should be a good night for the club like Asha. If you want to visit both clinica / prive and swinger club, then somewhere close to Moema will be more "central". It is also not far from Bomboa.
The main advantage with Renaissance probably is you can find fine dinning in walking distance but it depends which restaurant you want to go. Moema has many good restaurants as well. Usually Japanese, Italian or Thai restaurants are all pretty good in Sao Paulo.
Moema is on flight path. This has been mentioned frequently. Just look at google map and extend the runway on the map and you will know where you will get the most noise. I have stood outside near Shopping Ibirapuera and watch the fight coming and going and they more or less match the orientation of the runway.Lately Enjoy Spa has fewer garotas. A few times only two maybe three showed up, the rest were expected later but never showed up.
They can move chicas between certain moema spas, I had a blast riding with four sexy garotas going from Miruna to Enjoy.
Miruna lost power and internet one afternoon. Dorcas got us a taxi, and we all piled in, with a garota on my lap, licking my ear all the way. We met Julie at Enjoy to welcome us and pay the fare.
Agree Julie at reception is friendly and cool. We would shoot the shit about my crazy antics at 57 friends. The bar pool table, and local band setup, took me a visit or two to figure out the first time. Now I ask for a presentation first then go into the bar.
Nounce is spot-on about the Moema neighborhood. Good advice. I stay in Airbnb or hotel suites with soundproof rooms or far enough away from the CGH flight line for a restful sleep.
I would not go to Vani. The lineup usually is weak. The reason I went is because the girl I met at Tangara works there during weekday.
The reasons I went to Tangara initially is because the large selection and often they have more new girls, open earlier and close later that fits my schedule a little better. The girls in general perform better for me too and I can find more thin girls there. The place has a local vibe that I like. The managers are more friendly. The price may seen like a factor but given that I have florsita discount at most other clinicas. The difference for 1 hour is are $10 for one hour and Tangara is out of the way. If I don't find what I like here, I would Uber to Moema after.
There were not many girls at Enjoy in my recent visit. Julie who also works at 57 house was working there. She is very friendly and she speaks English.
I did not go to Prime. Prime is not my first choice because it is popular and I don't have time during daytime to compete with other mongers or wait around. Sometimes it is like playing chess that you have to position yourself so you are the first one to be greeted by the girl. LOL. Anyway, I usually don't stay nearby so I went mostly during weekend or when I was certain about a girl and schedule it in advance.
Never been to Yankin.
Keep in mind that I don't visit clinicas frequently because it does not fit my hours so my observation can be see as one off. That maybe why I have not seen Abbodora with 20+ girls like some GPG
reviews described or the line up some GPG members talk about. I am here several months a year so I also accumulate enough experience.Great info, thanks Nounce. Just one more question, what is florsita discount?
We've already produced 2 sexy shots till now with this lovely brunette. Paid all of them. Yes, first met her as an escort and we're kind of friends now. I finally convinced her to masked XXX video we will produce in few weeks.
Look at the Tv so you can check this is Sao Paulo and a true brazilian bunda.
I didn't loose my producer touch, did I? Hehehehe I must admit it. I love asses.Do you publish the xxx vids? If so, can you links us to it?
How do you search on maps or google for these CLínica without getting a medical facility? Next few days I'm be staying 2 nights next to "shopping ibirapuera".
Thanks for the help!
I fiind Yankin similar to the nearby Tangara with a few key differences. There are usually fewer punters at Yankin than there are at Tangara. Also, for the same price as Tangara, I find the Yankin lineups slightly better than Tangara. I rate it worth a try before you default to Moema.
I would not go to Vani. The lineup usually is weak. The reason I went is because the girl I met at Tangara works there during weekday.
The reasons I went to Tangara initially is because the large selection and often they have more new girls, open earlier and close later that fits my schedule a little better. The girls in general perform better for me too and I can find more thin girls there. The place has a local vibe that I like. The managers are more friendly. The price may seen like a factor but given that I have florsita discount at most other clinicas. The difference for 1 hour is are $10 for one hour and Tangara is out of the way. If I don't find what I like here, I would Uber to Moema after.
There were not many girls at Enjoy in my recent visit. Julie who also works at 57 house was working there. She is very friendly and she speaks English.
I did not go to Prime. Prime is not my first choice because it is popular and I don't have time during daytime to compete with other mongers or wait around. Sometimes it is like playing chess that you have to position yourself so you are the first one to be greeted by the girl. LOL. Anyway, I usually don't stay nearby so I went mostly during weekend or when I was certain about a girl and schedule it in advance.
Never been to Yankin.
Keep in mind that I don't visit clinicas frequently because it does not fit my hours so my observation can be see as one off. That maybe why I have not seen Abbodora with 20+ girls like some GPG
reviews described or the line up some GPG members talk about. I am here several months a year so I also accumulate enough experience.
There aren't many flights between 11 PM and 6 AM. That doesn't help the late night ravers trying to rest after a night of Scandallo.
Scandallo is far from everywhere so that is a given. I assume you don't come alone. Moema has a few Swinger clubs. Friday should be a good night for the club like Asha. If you want to visit both clinica / prive and swinger club, then somewhere close to Moema will be more "central". It is also not far from Bomboa.
The main advantage with Renaissance probably is you can find fine dinning in walking distance but it depends which restaurant you want to go. Moema has many good restaurants as well. Usually Japanese, Italian or Thai restaurants are all pretty good in Sao Paulo.
Moema is on flight path. This has been mentioned frequently. Just look at google map and extend the runway on the map and you will know where you will get the most noise. I have stood outside near Shopping Ibirapuera and watch the fight coming and going and they more or less match the orientation of the runway.
Steve 9696
08-14-23, 16:06
How do you search on maps or google for these CLnica without getting a medical facility? Next few days I'm be staying 2 nights next to "shopping ibirapuera".
Thanks for the help!Just google maps search explicitly for the names here. Tangará. Abbobora. Miruna. Prime CLínica or whatever.
I believe this has been answered before but I can't find the post. Where do I get a SIM with unlimited data in downtown SP (Av. Paulista)? Or am I better taking out an unlimted roaming before arrival?
(Prefarbly Claro if it's still the fastest).
I believe this has been answered before but I can't find the post. Where do I get a SIM with unlimited data in downtown SP (Av. Paulista)? Or am I better taking out an unlimted roaming before arrival?Locate a "loja TIM" near to where you are. I'm not sure they'll give you unlimited data on the prepaid SIM but no harm in asking. The data I got was for one month, at the end of which I needed to recharge. Anyway, the data was way sufficient for my surfing and messaging when I was out of my hotel/AirBnb.
Great info, thanks Nounce. Just one more question, what is florsita discount?The correct spelling is forista. You get a discount on some clinicas like Prime, Miruna, and Enjoy if you post a review on gp-guia. Currently it is 200/ HR. I think it is 270/ HR without discount but I am not 100% sure because the price increase.
Some receptionists now are not friendly with the discount if you don't post on every visit. It's unreasonable in my view. They are just being unreasonable when you consider a monger visiting 365 days a year and have to post 365 reviews. LOL. That is just not good customer service toward a good customer.
Locate a "loja TIM" near to where you are. I'm not sure they'll give you unlimited data on the prepaid SIM but no harm in asking. The data I got was for one month, at the end of which I needed to recharge. Anyway, the data was way sufficient for my surfing and messaging when I was out of my hotel/AirBnb.The one in Shopping Patio Higienpolis will sell you unlimited data for about are $210 post paid plan with your passport. You probably will need this if you use 5G constantly. I turned my 5G off as I don't need it that fast. This TIM store is pretty large, like a full service one but I think any other one in a shopping should able to sell you one too.
I had TIM and its 5G is quite impressive. I have not seen anything less than 300Mbps when I was testing it everywhere I went.
Oh yeah, I've got a Telegram Channel with wonderful samples, mostly butt oriented. Anyone interested can drop me a PM.
Argies and brazilians, so the best natural butts in South America, no doubt.
Do you publish the xxx vids? If so, can you links us to it?
DonCarlos1234
08-15-23, 11:19
Oh yeah, I've got a Telegram Channel with wonderful samples, mostly butt oriented. Anyone interested can drop me a PM.
Argies and brazilians, so the best natural butts in South America, no doubt.Just sayin.
The one in Shopping Patio Higienpolis will sell you unlimited data for about are $210 post paid plan with your passport. You probably will need this if you use 5G constantly. I turned my 5G off as I don't need it that fast. This TIM store is pretty large, like a full service one but I think any other one in a shopping should able to sell you one too.
I had TIM and its 5G is quite impressive. I have not seen anything less than 300Mbps when I was testing it everywhere I went.Post-paid, does that mean giving TIM you credit card to be charged "as you go" (until you cancel your credit card)?
Just sayin.Hi DonCarlos1234, yeah sure, I love your sculptures, a pleasure I can compare only with putting my hands on butts like this.
The house never loses a game! Hahahaha.
Can you share your channel link here? I would DM you if I had a premium account. Don't think that would break the forum rule, as long as there is no email address.Ok, let's try it: t. Me / assworship.
Has anyone been to Curitiba, Blumenau and Florianopolis? I've heard good things about these 3 cities, but their threads seem to be inactive. Are there good looking escorts?
Which place in SP has more chicks of European descent? Like white girl who can pass as German, polish or Italian?
Vagabundo1
08-15-23, 22:36
How is jardims in sp? For living in an apartment.
DonCarlos1234
08-16-23, 01:54
Hahahaha.That's not milk. But you can wish.
Gentlemen,
It's been a pleasure to read the last 50 or so pages of this thread. I laughed, I cried, I got hard, LOL. It's been a while since I've mongered outside the States since the jaws of Covid upended everything. In the past, I've had the pleasure of traveling to DR extensively, to Panama City, Costa Rica, Curacao and to Colombia. However, father time doesn't stop ticking and my usual travel companions are on lock down. As such, I'll be solo and I've decided perhaps a nice last rodeo would be Brazil. Always a distant land in comparison to the quick 3-5 hours flights to the Caribbean or Colombia. However, the allure of the famous Brazilian IoP (Illusion of Passion) has me itching.
As a first timer and rusty monger, I'm going to keep things tight and close to the chest. I'll be visiting more of the known places.
Clinicas:
Miruna (A Must), Prime, Palms, Abbobora (Viviane), Taj Mahal, Ora Spa, Tangara (Best Sex), 57 Friends, Enjoy Spa, Yankin.
Boates:
Scandalo, Casarao, Bahamas, Bomboa.
A major shout out to whoever created this map. It's been immensely useful and would love to buy you some consumables at Scandallo.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&ll=-23.568139836519688%2C-46.65167774811431&z=13&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU
I plan on being there the first week December and am beginning to formulate a proper game plan. However, I did have a few questions for the more seasoned veterans.
Phone:
I just can't imagine myself giving my US telephone number to any of the girls and as such plan on buying a used iPhone SE (2nd Gen) and buying a eSim Data Plan from Airalo. I'll have my main phone on me but for mongering purposes I can use the local Brazilian number.
I assume this is fine?
Lodging:
I would love to stay at some of the 5 star hotels mentioned on this site. However, when priced out over 7 days it's expensive, as the youngsters say, AF. An AirBnB would be much cheaper and honestly more preferable. I plan on staying in the Moema area and renting an AirBnb close to the mall.
Does anyone see a problem with this? Ideally, an AirBnb that is girl friendly with minimal hassle to get girls up would be the best. If anyone has any recommendations, I am open ears.
Communication:
Do Brazilian girls only speak Portuguese? Has anyone noticed if they speak Spanish; particularly Caribbean Spanish? If not, I'll have to go down the Google translate route, which is fine.
I'm just starting to round out my itinerary and looking forward to the trip.
J.
That's nice DonCharles! Feels cold the liquid plaster, right?
These girls. Once they put a mask, something unleashes inside of them.
As my theater teacher said. Actors tent to assume the personality of the mask.
Hope you like these action screenshots. I know how to produce powerful images.
That's not milk. But you can wish.
Ok, let's try it: t. Me / assworship.I can't quite figure out how to use this link?
Would love to see your pictures.
Thanks.
a nice last rodeo would be Brazil.
Phone:
plan on buying a used iPhone SE (2nd Gen) and buying a eSim Data Plan from Airalo. I'll have my main phone on me but for mongering purposes I can use the local Brazilian number.
Lodging:
An AirBnB would be much cheaper and honestly more preferable. I plan on staying in the Moema area and renting an AirBnb close to the mall.
Communication:
Do Brazilian girls only speak Portuguese? Has anyone noticed if they speak Spanish; particularly Caribbean Spanish? If not, I'll have to go down the Google translate route, which is fine.
Last rodeo sounds ominous ha. I think you'll enjoy Brazil for sure.
Phone: eSim data is great, but won't get you a local #. I usually use the eSim for my primary phone data. Burner, I get a local sim for going out at night (I generally carried my main phone during the day, I have a backup for that and it's up to you on risk-IE a few BMs have been heldup). And you can sign up business WA to get the local phone # WA onto your primary phone as well.
Lodging: For your first time, any reason a hotel like the Mercure chain (GF friendly, most hotels are) won't do? Cheaper and less hassle with finding out if guests are ok, etc.
Communication: I'd say from my limited experience, more people speak English in SP than Spanish, Google Translate all the way (I'm learning Porto for my return trip).
F.
BenTiger07
08-16-23, 16:01
I've been to Rio & Medellin, but I've never been to Sao Paulo. As a fellow monger, can someone help me decide if Ill like Sao Paulo more than Rio / Medellin. I do it all. Sometimes I invite a girl to my place through tinder / IG / etc, but mostly I go to the massage spots or pickup / strip club scenes.
-Which if the 3 generally costs more for the mid-top range girls, or its about the same? I felt Rio & Medellin was about the same, but no clue about Sao Paulo.
-I'm more into lighter skinned girls. Are there more or less in Sao Paulo compared to Rio?
-Where to stay? I don't need an expensive luxury hotel, but a mid-high end Airbnb may do, under $1800/ mo.
Open to meeting some of y'all. Get you a couple beers when I visit. Cheers.
Is there a way to buy a Brazil sim card without having CPF? I just need it for 1 week. Low data is fine. Are there little shops that sell SIM cards that don't ask for CPF?
Gentlemen,
It's been a pleasure to read the last 50 or so pages of this thread. I laughed, I cried, I got hard, LOL. It's been a while since I've mongered outside the States since the jaws of Covid upended everything. In the past, I've had the pleasure of traveling to DR extensively, to Panama City, Costa Rica, Curacao and to Colombia. However, father time doesn't stop ticking and my usual travel companions are on lock down. As such, I'll be solo and I've decided perhaps a nice last rodeo would be Brazil. Always a distant land in comparison to the quick 3-5 hours flights to the Caribbean or Colombia. However, the allure of the famous Brazilian IoP (Illusion of Passion) has me itching.
Phone:
I just can't imagine myself giving my US telephone number to any of the girls and as such plan on buying a used iPhone SE (2nd Gen) and buying a eSim Data Plan from Airalo. I'll have my main phone on me but for mongering purposes I can use the local Brazilian number.
I assume this is fine?
Communication:
Do Brazilian girls only speak Portuguese? Has anyone noticed if they speak Spanish; particularly Caribbean Spanish? If not, I'll have to go down the Google translate route, which is fine.
I'm just starting to round out my itinerary and looking forward to the trip.
J.AIRALO won't give you a Brazilian phone number. Just 4 G data. You will need to have a phone number and an unlocked phone to be able to use AIRALO. Getting a Brazilian SIM card could work but I all depends on how long you are planning to stay and how much patience you have.
Girls speaking Caribbean Spanish would be extremely rare in SP. Google translate will be your best friend and if you can speak Spanish, then understanding Porto is pretty easy. Speaking it takes some practice.
Good luck and have fun and do post some reports.
Gigi Buffon
08-16-23, 19:33
Which place in SP has more chicks of European descent? Like white girl who can pass as German, polish or Italian?Most likely you will find them in VNC (Vila Nova), Itaim Bibi, Jardim Europa, Cidade Jardim, Jardins, Higienópolis and some areas of Morumbi. But if you take a trip to Rio Grande do Sul or Santa Catarina, you will see a lot of them.
Gigi Buffon
08-16-23, 19:45
How is jardims in sp? For living in an apartment.Is quite good and safe. Just bear in mind that Jardins is divide into Jardim Europa (mostly houses), Jardim America (commercial), Jardim Paulista (close to avenida paulista and 9 de Julho with plenty of buildings, restaurants, hotels and commercial stores) and Jardim Paulistano. A safe bet will be Jardim Paulista where everything is available.
Last rodeo sounds ominous ha. I think you'll enjoy Brazil for sure.
Phone: eSim data is great, but won't get you a local #. I usually use the eSim for my primary phone data. Burner, I get a local sim for going out at night (I generally carried my main phone during the day, I have a backup for that and it's up to you on risk-IE a few BMs have been heldup). And you can sign up business WA to get the local phone # WA onto your primary phone as well.
Lodging: For your first time, any reason a hotel like the Mercure chain (GF friendly, most hotels are) won't do? Cheaper and less hassle with finding out if guests are ok, etc.
Communication: I'd say from my limited experience, more people speak English in SP than Spanish, Google Translate all the way (I'm learning Porto for my return trip)..Foolish,
Thank you for your response and advice. Regarding the phone, that's a bummer. In the DR, it's as easy as hopping off the plane, stumbling into a Claro and getting a SIM. In and out in less than 15 minutes. I guess I'll have to do more research on how to get a local number. Am I being wise though? It's worth having a local number right? I guess my mind just goes to the worst case scenarios. I imagine someone unscrupulous having my actual number, sending it to their buddies in the States and paying me a visit in the night. I may just be crazy.
As for lodging, I was thinking of the Mercure SP Alamedas, Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi. Ex The Capital, Tsue The Palace Flats as well. The AirBnB prices just seem too good compared to staying in a hotel. I "walked" the streets via Google Maps to check out the neighborhood and while it seems safe, I figure a private AirBnb with self check-in would be preferable.
Ha, well I guess my Dominican Spanish won't go a long way down in the SP. I'm not Dominican but learned way more than I should have during my trips to Sosua / Santo Domingo.
I did have some follow up questions for anyone who is inclined:
In regards to cash, is it better to bring USD and then exchange or withdraw from an ATM once there? Both propositions seem risky if exchanging or withdrawing too much money at one time. I am leaning towards bringing cash and exchanging as I don't need my bank cards being locked when I'm down there.
Also, in terms of pharmaceuticals, can you just walk into any pharmacy and request? Is there a special name for see-alis down there?
J.
That's nice DonCharles! Feels cold the liquid plaster, right?
These girls. Once they put a mask, something unleashes inside of them.
As my theater teacher said. Actors tent to assume the personality of the mask.
Hope you like these action screenshots. I know how to produce powerful images.My God, HiddenEye.
A beautiful woman on the bed, a mask to serve as a facade, I don't know how you had restraint not to just pounce. Definitely looking forward to seeing what Brazil has to offer.
AIRALO won't give you a Brazilian phone number. Just 4 G data. You will need to have a phone number and an unlocked phone to be able to use AIRALO. Getting a Brazilian SIM card could work but I all depends on how long you are planning to stay and how much patience you have.
Girls speaking Caribbean Spanish would be extremely rare in SP. Google translate will be your best friend and if you can speak Spanish, then understanding Porto is pretty easy. Speaking it takes some practice.
Good luck and have fun and do post some reports.Anaggie,
Thanks for your response.
I guess the hassle to get a local number will be too much? Did you ever have any reservations about using your actual number?
I did recently get an audio learning language package for Portuguese. Otherwise, I'm leading with "Que lo que?" and then switching to Google Translate.
And for sure; the trip is still a while away but I'll be taking extensive notes and posting.
J.
do more research on how to get a local number.
In regards to cash, is it better to bring USD and then exchange or withdraw from an ATM once there? Both propositions seem risky if exchanging or withdrawing too much money at one time. I am leaning towards bringing cash and exchanging as I don't need my bank cards being locked when I'm down there.
Also, in terms of pharmaceuticals, can you just walk into any pharmacy and request? Is there a special name for see-alis down there?
J.If you search for my report Apr20 (or various others), you'll see these answered. It's a lot, but I'the recommend reading the last 50-100 pages to get up to speed. Then ask specifics.
You can get a cpf (took me 2 business days) with the BR govt. I generally agree and have no plans to give people in the mongering world my primary info.
Atms work well, you'll probably lose a bunch on exchange. But crisp USD is a good backup. I am on the side of prepping well. Multiple bank and credit cards, multiple phones / laptops and cash, photocopy of passport, etc. Are but that's me.
Drogarias will have generic Cialis. It's called tadalafil. I only saw 20 MG option. Took one every 1. 5 days.
F.
Is there a way to buy a Brazil sim card without having CPF? I just need it for 1 week. Low data is fine. Are there little shops that sell SIM cards that don't ask for CPF?This has been mentioned many times. There are a few ways to do it and this is how I do it and is probably the most reliable one.
Buy a TIM chip (that is how they call SIM card) from a newspaper stand.
I install the chip in my phone.
Go to a TIM store (Loja TIM) with your passport and your TIM chip.
I ask the store employee to use my phone to connect me to the online English speaking agent to register my phone.
I gave the online agent my current address and passport number. That finishes the registration.
You don't need to go to the TIM store if you have someone that can help you make the call, I also don't know if this is still valid as there were conflicting reports recently on whether you can register with passport.
I think Knowledge posted a link so one can register online. Maybe he will post the link again when he sees this post.
Hi, JSmith. It's not a exclusive thing of Brazil. South America has talent.
I'm a very patient media producer who can book hairstylers, light and sound technicians, cameramen, photographers, transportation, meals, hotels, model releases etc etc.
For example, argentine model on the pics. Yes, everything happened after a few productions but not on tape. She had a great ass, I mean GREAT, but awful small tits back 2019, that made her feel ugly and insecure, a girl's thing. Now she has wonderful fake tits I'd love to shoot again, but now she has a very handsome boyfriend and may marry soon. That makes the production harder to coordinate but not a imposible mission.
Let's wait until they have a fight, I'm sure we will produce again.
Models and escorts are different sports. Mongers bang 14 girls in a week. I bang 2 or 3 models in a whole year.
I have my monger relaxing escapades of course hehehehe.
Note: Argentine peso went from 560 to 780 per dollar in the last two days.
My God, HiddenEye.
A beautiful woman on the bed, a mask to serve as a facade, I don't know how you had restraint not to just pounce. Definitely looking forward to seeing what Brazil has to offer.
This has been mentioned many times. There are a few ways to do it and this is how I do it and is probably the most reliable one.
Buy a TIM chip (that is how they call SIM card) from a newspaper stand.
...TIM is not "how they call a SIM" in Brazil. TIM is a major phone operator. Another one is CLARO.
Incidentally, CLARO are more likely than TIM to demand a CPF before they sell you a SIM.
If you search for my report Apr20 (or various others), you'll see these answered. It's a lot, but I'the recommend reading the last 50-100 pages to get up to speed. Then ask specifics.
You can get a cpf (took me 2 business days) with the BR govt. I generally agree and have no plans to give people in the mongering world my primary info.
Atms work well, you'll probably lose a bunch on exchange. But crisp USD is a good backup. I am on the side of prepping well. Multiple bank and credit cards, multiple phones / laptops and cash, photocopy of passport, etc. Are but that's me.
Drogarias will have generic Cialis. It's called tadalafil. I only saw 20 MG option. Took one every 1. 5 days.
F.Thanks Foolish. I'll go back and find your posts.
J.
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Buy a TIM chip (that is how they call SIM card) from a newspaper stand.
....In case my post wasn't clear, I dug out what I just bought recently shown in the picture. I buy chip that is already registered by seller so I no longer need to register the chip. That is the reason I don't have recent experience about registration. It took the seller about 30 seconds to put the chip in my phone and that was it. This is a hit and miss method and is more time consuming. I already have roaming so I am not in a hurry or even need to get another data plan.
Anaggie,
Thanks for your response.
I guess the hassle to get a local number will be too much? Did you ever have any reservations about using your actual number?
I did recently get an audio learning language package for Portuguese. Otherwise, I'm leading with "Que lo que?" and then switching to Google Translate.
And for sure; the trip is still a while away but I'll be taking extensive notes and posting.
J.I don't need a local number nor do I wish to go thru the hassle of getting one since I am only in town for 4-5 days. I use my regular number and WhatsApp the girls. Simply put. I have never had any issues but I firmly believe in "do no harm" to the girls. I don't give them a reason to try to fuck me over. I treat them with respect and don't share much other than my number. You can also get a second USA burner number and get a new WhatsApp account under that number.
I always carry cash with me and do not use debit cards. I only use credit cards for high end meals and hotel charges. You can find decent exchange houses around the area or in shopping centers and can exchange as you see fit. I use one in the area I stay in Jardim Paulista and they give a rate very close to the central bank rate for new $100 bills.
I've been to Rio & Medellin, but I've never been to Sao Paulo. As a fellow monger, can someone help me decide if Ill like Sao Paulo more than Rio / Medellin. I do it all. Sometimes I invite a girl to my place through tinder / IG / etc, but mostly I go to the massage spots or pickup / strip club scenes.
-Which if the 3 generally costs more for the mid-top range girls, or its about the same? I felt Rio & Medellin was about the same, but no clue about Sao Paulo.
-I'm more into lighter skinned girls. Are there more or less in Sao Paulo compared to Rio?
-Where to stay? I don't need an expensive luxury hotel, but a mid-high end Airbnb may do, under $1800/ mo.
Open to meeting some of y'all. Get you a couple beers when I visit. Cheers.Ben, I have never been to Rio or Medellin but have been going to SP since 2018. I have met and enjoyed light skinned girls in SP. My tastes are more for light skinned but I enjoy variety and exploring different options. I have stayed at the Renaissance, Marriott Executive Apartments and two Hiltons. The airbnb I used last trip wanted me to register visitors. The hotels never gave me any problems. My MO is to go to one of the clinics for a session and if we really click exchange numbers. I did pick up a beautiful one at Caseros who was the most wonderful all nighter. My success with PHotoacompanhantes is about 50/50. I have had several of them that have kept in touch with me for several years.
DonCarlos1234
08-18-23, 05:34
I don't need a local number nor do I wish to go thru the hassle of getting one since I am only in town for 4-5 days. I use my regular number and WhatsApp the girls. Simply put. I have never had any issues but I firmly believe in "do no harm" to the girls. I don't give them a reason to try to fuck me over. I treat them with respect and don't share much other than my number. You can also get a second USA burner number and get a new WhatsApp account under that number.
I always carry cash with me and do not use debit cards. I only use credit cards for high end meals and hotel charges. You can find decent exchange houses around the area or in shopping centers and can exchange as you see fit. I use one in the area I stay in Jardim Paulista and they give a rate very close to the central bank rate for new $100 bills.T Mobile sells international data packs. 7 days - $15,10 days $35,30 days $50. I use it in Colombia. Works well. No hassle. I bet whatever carrier you have has similar. I also have local plans. Just simpler to use my own line.
In a similar vein. I will probably use Latam for flight Sao P. To Rio round trip. . because the Brazil carrier websites are more complicated and finding the gates etc. Could get me lost. I like adventures but with less hassle and least amount of stress getting somewhere.
T-Mobile sending me 3 GPS tracker chips to place inside luggage or tape to my computer of under ware so it doesn't get lost! Maybe I will put one on my head.
DonCarlos1234
08-18-23, 10:37
T Mobile sells international data packs. 7 days - $15,10 days $35,30 days $50. I use it in Colombia. Works well. No hassle. I bet whatever carrier you have has similar. I also have local plans. Just simpler to use my own line.
In a similar vein. I will probably use Latam for flight Sao P. To Rio round trip. . because the Brazil carrier websites are more complicated and finding the gates etc. Could get me lost. I like adventures but with less hassle and least amount of stress getting somewhere.
T-Mobile sending me 3 GPS tracker chips to place inside luggage or tape to my computer of under ware so it doesn't get lost! Maybe I will put one on my head.Update. Latam had 2 different prices, $64 in Portuguese and $164 on their English version with this statement: "You'll complete your booking on a local website, which is subject to that country's regulations, language, currency, and available payment methods. International transaction fees may apply. " So booking.com enters your saved info and takes less time. I reserved an Azul flight including a changeable ticket and window seats both ways. Was $100 total. A lot easier then trying to translate with google. So Rio 4 days for me and 10 in Scandallo. Ha!
T Mobile sells international data packs. 7 days - $15,10 days $35,30 days $50. I use it in Colombia. Works well. No hassle. I bet whatever carrier you have has similar. I also have local plans. Just simpler to use my own line.
In a similar vein. I will probably use Latam for flight Sao P. To Rio round trip. . because the Brazil carrier websites are more complicated and finding the gates etc. Could get me lost. I like adventures but with less hassle and least amount of stress getting somewhere.
T-Mobile sending me 3 GPS tracker chips to place inside luggage or tape to my computer of under ware so it doesn't get lost! Maybe I will put one on my head.I have the T-Mobile roaming international data on my account but it is pretty slow. I just use AIRALO on my second esim in my phone for the data in Brazil. You shouldn't have any issues at Brazilian airports. Just like all the ones around the world. They have English signs and most of the staff speaks english.
Brazil will surprise you. They are a bit more advanced than a lot of people give them credit for. Some things aren't but it is the same for all countries.
Which clinica in SP has more chicks of European descent? Like white girl who can pass as German, polish or Italian?
DonCarlos1234
08-18-23, 19:59
HEALTH
You should get on PREP before you head out. Takes about 2 weeks to be effective and you will have some peace of mind. Most Health insurance covers it. You can buy good skyn condoms at the pharmacies and you can get sildenafil or Tadalafil (generic Cialis) there as well. Its pretty cheap. Get some mouth wash as well. Scandallo has tons in their mens bathroom but the girls don't so I've had some funny encounters where the girls will ask me to sneak them some out of the mens bathroom because they can't go in. I know some guys like to make out with their girls hardcore but make sure to wash that mouth right away because some girls aren't as hygienic as others. They will clean their pussy and ass but only a few times I've seen a girl brush her teeth or get mouthwash.
If you start to feel sick go to the pharmacy and get some meds for sore throat / coughing right away. Once you get sick you won't have the strength to do anything let alone girls. I had a friend ignore my advice and he was out of action for a good 5 days which could have easily been dealt with. If you feel bad enough go to a clinic and get some stronger meds just in case. Once you're out of commission you might as well be on your outgoing flight because you're gone.
Considering the risks it's amazing these girls stay "healthy". Same for the "mongers" . No condoms, sharing bareback with 5-10 guys a day?, up the butt, face sucking, tongues everywhere. I have a doc friend who gave me 4 different med types to prevent / cure various std's. he is also a mongor. LOL.
I once got a bad case of diarrhea in New York a couple of days before I went to Sao Paulo. It was super annoying. I stupidly waited a full day before I added Imodium to the liters of water I was drinking. I was back in action after another day. Traveler's diarrhea is supposed to be a developing world thing.
Considering the risks it's amazing these girls stay "healthy". Same for the "mongers" . No condoms, sharing bareback with 5-10 guys a day?, up the butt, face sucking, tongues everywhere. I have a doc friend who gave me 4 different med types to prevent / cure various std's. he is also a mongor. LOL.
Which clinica in SP has more chicks of European descent? Like white girl who can pass as German, polish or Italian?I don't think any of the clinicas specialize in any type of girl. They all have a variety as tastes among men differ wildly. But generally speaking, there are more white/european looking girls in SP than in Rio for sure.
For those of you who want to look it up its on the map. Also its address is are. Prof. Santiago Dantas, 62.
Went around 3 pm. Didn't know what to expect. Arrived by uber, went up to the second floor. There was a small waiting area and a receptionist greeted me. Told me that the prices: 300 for 30 minutes or 400 for 1 hour. 50 real surcharge if you use a credit card. I sat down while the girls came out. Usually I keep my phone handy and keep notes on which girls I liked. 6 girls presented themselves. I would have done 4 of the 6. I was surprised by the quality. I chose Raiiss, pretty face, with a decent body. In presentation she had a lot of cleavage showing, which I liked. The hostess led me to the room, and I took a shower while waiting for Raiiss to show up. The room itself was clean enough, very similar to clinica prime I would say. Raiss showed up as I finished my shower, we chatted a bit in my broken portoguese / spanish. 21 years old, had been working there for almost 5 weeks. I love a pretty face. She undressed and took a shower. Her boobs were large with some decent form, but were the saggy type, usually I like them firm, even if a bit smaller. We got down to business and man, she was passionate. All the DFK I would handle. Laid her on her stomach and ate her from behind, before getting into 69 position. Did all the positions and finished in doggie. Finished my 30 minute session with 5 minutes to spare! Man, this is what I've been missing all my life. Sweet girl. Would repeat if I get the chance. Got her whatsapp.
Ratings:
Face: 8.
Body: 7. 5.
Attitude: 10.
Performance: 8.
There is always Moldova or Romania.
I don't think any of the clinicas specialize in any type of girl. They all have a variety as tastes among men differ wildly. But generally speaking, there are more white/european looking girls in SP than in Rio for sure.
Thank you for this pretty good summary.
I was wondering if someone could clarify something: in reading previous post it appeared to me as if a doctor prescription was required in order to get Cialis or Viagra. I was wondering if that is still the case.
I have gotten used to not needing one in Colombia, Thailand and the Phils. Although I do not need it frequently it does come in handy when doing major session days.
Thank you all for any help.
Concarne.
I've returned to see my apostle Saint Paul and he laid before me a city of concrete and great splendor that only one dreams of.
In my Journey, I ventured with 3 other brothers in arms, each with their own tales to tell but this one is mine.
PREFACE
There are some words of advice I'd like to bestow upon thee before I ventured any further.
LOCATION
Moema is a nice area and one would think being 5 mins away walking distance to the major clinicas would be a smart move, it is not. The problem you will find is that the airplanes constantly go over your head day and night and do not cease. I stayed in the moema area to show a new SP visitor around town and it was not worth it in his own words. I'm a heavy sleeper but still it did bug me when I just wanted to read my essential reading materials such as The Complete Calvin and Hobbes (paperback) and Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov.
There is no ideal location to stay at. You will be far from either the boates or the clinicas or something else. There is no "right spot" to stay at. I stayed in moema for the first 10 days then went to the Grand Hyatt in brooklin area. I think a good compromise is Brooklin novo. It's only 10 min ride away to the clinicas and 30 mins from bomboa, scandallo and casarao more or less. It's also a decent area which you have to remember is important because some girls will flat out refuse to come over if you're in a bad neighborhood like Repblica. They'll tell you to come to them or get a love motel and you don't want that if you can help it.
AIRBNB and HOTEL
I used Airbnb and my host had it written down that I had to check in every guest that I had coming in. It really made it annoying some days. Eventually I just went pass the front desk but this can be a problem if the building sees this as a problem and can kick you out. If a host says you can't have visitor or you have a limit I'd take that into consideration and look for something else. I'd ask them what the method is to get in the building as some places you get a keyfob or they use face scanner to let you in and you just bypass security or times you need to talk to the front desk every time and that's when you have a problem usually.
Also take into consideration of hotels. Some girls will only go to a guys place if it's a hotel. I had some scandallo girls tell me this and online girls. Since this is my 6th rodeo I had some girls who I had a repeat with come to my airbnb but that's because they knew I was 300 like the romans (300 = CCC = cool, calm, collective).
I stayed in the Grand Hyatt at their presidential suite which is their best suite and it was a delight. I was there during lollapalooza festival so it was extra interesting as some of the artists were staying on the same floor and security was extra tight as there was a ton of fan girls waiting to see their favorite artists walk by. I'm sure some were for me as well but I didn't pay them no mind.
Things to take note of is that the maximum registered guests you can have for your stay is 3 people. Anything over that you have to pay R150. The rooms is big enough to have 6-8 people over so really it's up to you if you want to pay that extra cost for an 4 some or more. Before 7 pm they don't really care about you bringing a girl or 2 or 4 over because they know you have friends that will want to come over but after 7 pm they have a security guard at the front who will guide you to the front desk to sign in your guests because they assume anyone coming in after 7 pm might stay the night and they don't want a fiesta happening in your place without getting a piece of that sweet action. Once a girl leaves make sure to sign them out so you have two guests available to come still. The front desk might try to squeeze you like a Heinz EZ Squirt Purple ketchup bottle and say you already used up your 2 guest spots and now you have to pay R150 for any new visitors. That's not how it works. It's any two guests at any given time. As long as you signed out any previous guests you don't have to pay unless you go over the room limit. It's usually a different front desk person so they might be confused so just politely tell them you are within the limit and clear up the confusion.
With the presidential suite you also get free breakfast, usually that means downstairs on the first floor but you can also get it sent to your room complimentary. You have to use the hotel's website to order your breakfast combo and add it to your room charge and schedule it but once you check out it will be noted as complimentary and you don't pay. A buddy of mine who has been there many many time never knew this and always missed breakfast. With the jacuzzi and it's view of the city it's really the best spot in SP. Your girl will go wild.
CASH IS KING
I recommend getting a charles schwab debit card so you don't have to pay any ATM fees. The grand hyatt notoriously has a high ATM fee, something like 30% of whatever you're taking out. Its crazy. Sometimes you will get a POS ATM situation like this so the CS debit card will save you some brain cells and dollars. I like using the bradesco atms as they work with international debit cards and they have a 2500 BRL withdrawal and some let you pick what type of bills you get. There are some 24 HR ATM machines located in supermarkets and express stores but they only let you take out 1000 BRL.
Always keep cash with you as it can save you alot of money and stress down the road. I mainly use my credit card to get those points but when you pay the girl it's always best to pay by cash as some places will charge you 10%-30% to pay them with card. Some girls have machines but they will also charge you or their machines won't work and now you have to find a ATM at 3 am and that's never fun.
HEALTH
You should get on PREP before you head out. Takes about 2 weeks to be effective and you will have some peace of mind. Most Health insurance covers it. You can buy good skyn condoms at the pharmacies and you can get sildenafil or Tadalafil (generic Cialis) there as well. Its pretty cheap. Get some mouth wash as well. Scandallo has tons in their mens bathroom but the girls don't so I've had some funny encounters where the girls will ask me to sneak them some out of the mens bathroom because they can't go in. I know some guys like to make out with their girls hardcore but make sure to wash that mouth right away because some girls aren't as hygienic as others. They will clean their pussy and ass but only a few times I've seen a girl brush her teeth or get mouthwash.
If you start to feel sick go to the pharmacy and get some meds for sore throat / coughing right away. Once you get sick you won't have the strength to do anything let alone girls. I had a friend ignore my advice and he was out of action for a good 5 days which could have easily been dealt with. If you feel bad enough go to a clinic and get some stronger meds just in case. Once you're out of commission you might as well be on your outgoing flight because you're gone.
CELLPHONE
I'm a tmobile customer and tmobile gives its MAX Magenta user 5 gb free international data so as soon as I landed I was up and running. You can also get Google Fi and it does the same thing for $20 or so. You can also use the airport's WIFI and get an uber straight to the nearest mall where you will be staying at and get a sim card from TIM but I helped a friend do that and went with him and it took about two hours before it became active so it's kind of a hassle if you don't need to do this.
BUDDY SYSTEM
for sao paulo i would recommend you come with a buddy or meet other members there. Sao Paulo is great but doing the boates alone really is a wretched experience especially when you have done it with a group of buddies before. you can really relax and take your time to soak it all in and get some more insights from your buddy as you only have two eyeballs and two heads with one doing most of the decision making. In my experience, every guy has their own tastes and there usually is very little crossover. I, myself, am very fond of pale redhead with blue/green eyes and my buddies were into the exact opposites. they knew my type and could easily point a girl out that i would like faster than i did at times. you can't visit all the places and be there at the same time so they can get you some important info about the kind of talent one place has and so on. sao paulo really in essence is going from one building to another to another with lots of uber rides in between so it's better with company during those times. i would highly recommend you stay in the same building if you're doing Airbnb or the same hotel. it really saves time and when you're in need of help they are only a few floors away and not blocks. I ran out of condoms once and money with two girl over and my friend was able to come up to my floor and drop off a box and some cash.
The Critic
08-20-23, 06:59
Thank you for this pretty good summary.
I was wondering if someone could clarify something: in reading previous post it appeared to me as if a doctor prescription was required in order to get Cialis or Viagra. I was wondering if that is still the case.
I have gotten used to not needing one in Colombia, Thailand and the Phils. Although I do not need it frequently it does come in handy when doing major session days.
Thank you all for any help.
Concarne.No prescription needed (just like Colombia, Thailand and the Phils) you just need the name of the meds you want (sildenafil / Viagra or Tadalafil / Cialis and or other brands) when speaking to pharmacist.
DonCarlos1234
08-20-23, 22:10
No prescription needed (just like Colombia, Thailand and the Phils) you just need the name of the meds you want (sildenafil / Viagra or Tadalafil / Cialis and or other brands) when speaking to pharmacist.I already have test results but USA doctors first appointment is not till October. In Bogota I could just go to the pharmacy. Also are we wearing shorts on long pants now? Or both?
GiuseppeBonera
08-21-23, 15:33
Has anyone brought 3 girls up to the Marriott executive apartments? I have the two bedroom suite. I brought two last week just asked for ID. Not sure is they will give me hard time time with three.
Every time I have to bring two or more girls / people for a production, I reserve two double rooms, so the hotels will let me use the entire facility and everyone is happy.
Has anyone brought 3 girls up to the Marriott executive apartments? I have the two bedroom suite. I brought two last week just asked for ID. Not sure is they will give me hard time time with three.
Axel Heyst
08-22-23, 15:58
Every time I have to bring two or more girls / people for a production, I reserve two double rooms, so the hotels will let me use the entire facility and everyone is happy.This is great advice for a video production company, but for your average monger it is total BS. I have been punting around the world for decades and no matter what country girl I travel to, guest friendly means as many girls as want with no extra charge. No monger in his right mind would ever book a 2nd room in the same hotel for menage a trois. He would just book a more friendly hotel. Problem solved.
Now for me, 3 girls in my bed at one time is one girl too many and a clear case of diminishing marginal returns from the 3rd girl. In other words, for me, a 4-way is not worth the added cost of the 3rd girl. But still, any real girl friendly hotel will allow 3 girls with no joiner fee and I will not stay in any hotel that is not girl friendly even though, as I said, I have no intention of doing a 4 way in my room.
I already have test results but USA doctors first appointment is not till October. In Bogota I could just go to the pharmacy. Also are we wearing shorts on long pants now? Or both?It is my understanding that Brazil is like the USA And testosterone is not available over the counter.
I see people wearing shorts during the day and jeans at night.
I feel the same way about twosomes as you do about threesomes. I much prefer to go with two or three girls one at a time.
This is great advice for a video production company, but for your average monger it is total BS. I have been punting around the world for decades and no matter what country girl I travel to, guest friendly means as many girls as want with no extra charge. No monger in his right mind would ever book a 2nd room in the same hotel for menage a trois. He would just book a more friendly hotel. Problem solved.
Now for me, 3 girls in my bed at one time is one girl too many and a clear case of diminishing marginal returns from the 3rd girl. In other words, for me, a 4-way is not worth the added cost of the 3rd girl. But still, any real girl friendly hotel will allow 3 girls with no joiner fee and I will not stay in any hotel that is not girl friendly even though, as I said, I have no intention of doing a 4 way in my room.
Is the talent at Scandello any different in September than compared to in the February-April which I think is the summer time? What about if it's raining? I've been to Scandello before but only on dry days and during summer so wanted to see if the environment changed based on the season / time of the year.
Spent few days in sao paulo, most of nights in casarao, in rua augusta, lot of girls (in weekdays few less), they usually ask for 350 reais - 30 min, but you can bargain a bit, entrance is 50, hotel reservation another 50.
I also received a good massage here: https://massagemessenciallesp.com.br/#promo.
How is Edificio 134? I know the area is not good and quality is prob. Low, but having over 100 women in a building to choose from is something I'd like to see. Can anyone share some experience?
I had a dental emergency once, so I ended in a dental clinica, where at the end of the treatment, the dentist prescribed amoxiciline of 500 MG.
Only with that prescription they sold me the medicine in a Drogasil drugstore, after checking my ID and making a copy of my passport.
It is my understanding that Brazil is like the USA And testosterone is not available over the counter.
I see people wearing shorts during the day and jeans at night.
Yeah that's right, producers can't waste crew and talent time, so we choose options that are 100% sure to work.
This is great advice for a video production company, but for your average monger it is total BS.
Durandpaul
08-24-23, 05:27
Considering the risks it's amazing these girls stay "healthy". Same for the "mongers" . No condoms, sharing bareback with 5-10 guys a day?, up the butt, face sucking, tongues everywhere. I have a doc friend who gave me 4 different med types to prevent / cure various std's. he is also a mongor. LOL.Some guy I met at 4 x4 told me that girls working at 4 x4, Monte Carlo and Centaurus get regularly tested for stds and hiv. Not sure if it's true.
DonCarlos1234
08-24-23, 12:04
I've returned to see my apostle Saint Paul and he laid before me a city of concrete and great splendor that only one dreams of.
In my Journey, I ventured with 3 other brothers in arms, each with their own tales to tell but this one is mine.
BUDDY SYSTEM
for sao paulo i would recommend you come with a buddy or meet other members there. Sao Paulo is great but doing the boates alone really is a wretched experience especially when you have done it with a group of buddies before. you can really relax and take your time to soak it all in and get some more insights from your buddy as you only have two eyeballs and two heads with one doing most of the decision making. In my experience, every guy has their own tastes and there usually is very little crossover. I, myself, am very fond of pale redhead with blue/green eyes and my buddies were into the exact opposites. they knew my type and could easily point a girl out that i would like faster than i did at times. you can't visit all the places and be there at the same time so they can get you some important info about the kind of talent one place has and so on. sao paulo really in essence is going from one building to another to another with lots of uber rides in between so it's better with company during those times. i would highly recommend you stay in the same building if you're doing Airbnb or the same hotel. it really saves time and when you're in need of help they are only a few floors away and not blocks. I ran out of condoms once and money with two girl over and my friend was able to come up to my floor and drop off a box and some cash.Staying at Bourbon. Private residences. Ear plugs just in case. And I will post my trip details on the travel section. Normally I am a lone wolf but admit 2 guys I have met here have ended up becoming very good friends. Or pm me.
Some guy I met at 4 x4 told me that girls working at 4 x4, Monte Carlo and Centaurus get regularly tested for stds and hiv. Not sure if it's true.1000% true. Confirmed with multiple sources.
GiuseppeBonera
08-24-23, 18:47
Has anyone brought 3 girls up to the Marriott executive apartments? I have the two bedroom suite. I brought two last week just asked for ID. Not sure is they will give me hard time time with three.Just to give an update had no issue bringing up the three girls. Two arrived by uber and the last arrived with her own car. The last didn't even ask for her ID I think they just thought f* it LOL.
GiuseppeBonera
08-24-23, 19:02
Is the talent at Scandello any different in September than compared to in the February-April which I think is the summer time? What about if it's raining? I've been to Scandello before but only on dry days and during summer so wanted to see if the environment changed based on the season / time of the year.My advice is not worry about the months but instead holidays. December January and February are probably slower months since you have many people take vacation for cristmas new years and carnavale most regulars will likely be busy with their family's in September just need to avoid the week of September 7th brazilian independence day. Any holidays will affect the normal business. As girls know there will be less guys so they themselves may take a break. Don't think rain changes things too much.
GiuseppeBonera
08-24-23, 19:18
This is great advice for a video production company, but for your average monger it is total BS. I have been punting around the world for decades and no matter what country girl I travel to, guest friendly means as many girls as want with no extra charge. No monger in his right mind would ever book a 2nd room in the same hotel for menage a trois. He would just book a more friendly hotel. Problem solved.
Now for me, 3 girls in my bed at one time is one girl too many and a clear case of diminishing marginal returns from the 3rd girl. In other words, for me, a 4-way is not worth the added cost of the 3rd girl. But still, any real girl friendly hotel will allow 3 girls with no joiner fee and I will not stay in any hotel that is not girl friendly even though, as I said, I have no intention of doing a 4 way in my room.This was the first time I have done the foursome and was a pleasant experience. Logistics worked well all night for example double BBBJ while making out with the third or FS from one while getting full attention from the other two. I agree with lower returns compare to a threesome. But I also see it as diversification if one gets an attitude you still have the other two to save the night. I had sessioned with all the girls previously so I knew they were chill I probably would not do with a new girl involved. To sum up not something to do often but in my case was very nice and have absolutely no regrets. Also recommend only to do with trusted contacts.
I will be in Sao Paulo next week. I will be there for the week. My first of hopefully many visits. I wanted to check if there are any passport / DL requirements for entry to Scandello.
In the Moema area, the clinica nation as they say, planes fly over your head in the final approach to Congonhas track L35 meanwhile your banging.
24/7, very loud sound for those who have not lived near an airport before.
Cloudy afternoon few days ago.
I don't notice planes after 11 PM until 6 AM. I think there is a curfew. Of course, 6 AM is pretty early for that to start if you've been out all night at Scandallo. I'm more of a daytime prowler.
In the Moema area, the clinica nation as they say, planes fly over your head in the final approach to Congonhas track L35 meanwhile your banging.
24/7, very loud sound for those who have not lived near an airport before.
Cloudy afternoon few days ago.
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24/7, very loud sound for those who have not lived near an airport before.
Cloudy afternoon few days ago.24/7? I thought there was no commercial flight between midnight and 6 am.
Houston Player
08-25-23, 05:56
I will be in Sao Paulo next week. I will be there for the week. My first of hopefully many visits. I wanted to check if there are any passport / DL requirements for entry to Scandello. Definitely need an ID. Both forms of ID are accepted.
Staying at Bourbon. Private residences. Ear plugs just in case. And I will post my trip details on the travel section. Normally I am a lone wolf but admit 2 guys I have met here have ended up becoming very good friends. Or pm me.I prefer staying in brooklin novo.
Out of the path from the planes and the condos in that area are much nicer than in moema.
Your place is right next to the mall but I honestly don't really see the plus in that.
I stayed one block from the mall and only went about 3 times in my 10 day trip.
You should eat at some nice local spots and not the food court.
Atms are located there so there is that.
Just booked my airbnb in brooklin novo with an indoor heated swimming pool, sauna, gym and no annoying doorman. If you people can swing it I like the grand hyatt.
Good AC / HEAT, safe and easy check in.
Spent few days in sao paulo, most of nights in casarao, in rua augusta, lot of girls (in weekdays few less), they usually ask for 350 reais - 30 min, but you can bargain a bit, entrance is 50, hotel reservation another 50.
I also received a good massage here: https://massagemessenciallesp.com.br/#promo.What massage did you get? Looks pretty interesting and cheap!
DonCarlos1234
08-25-23, 09:39
I prefer staying in brooklin novo.
Out of the path from the planes and the condos in that area are much nicer than in moema.
Your place is right next to the mall but I honestly don't really see the plus in that.
I stayed one block from the mall and only went about 3 times in my 10 day trip.
You should eat at some nice local spots and not the food court.
Atms are located there so there is that.
Just booked my airbnb in brooklin novo with an indoor heated swimming pool, sauna, gym and no annoying doorman. If you people can swing it I like the grand hyatt.
Good AC / HEAT, safe and easy check in.2 sets of ear plugs, friendly Airbnb owner, likes my art. Says no noise if windows are closed. I will message him one last time to double check. Also staying 2 blocks from Casarao for 3 nights when I first arrive. BTW your posts are very informative, very entertaining Thanks.
DonCarlos1234
08-25-23, 10:24
In the Moema area, the clinica nation as they say, planes fly over your head in the final approach to Congonhas track L35 meanwhile your banging.
24/7, very loud sound for those who have not lived near an airport before.
Cloudy afternoon few days ago.I just cancelled the flight path Airbnb.
Just to give an update had no issue bringing up the three girls. Two arrived by uber and the last arrived with her own car. The last didn't even ask for her ID I think they just thought f* it LOL.I've done threesomes and they were amazing. I only do that with girls who are bi. Foursomes must be even better.
I will be in Sao Paulo next week. I will be there for the week. My first of hopefully many visits. I wanted to check if there are any passport / DL requirements for entry to Scandello.I'm pretty sure that you need some form of ID and they may have asked for my CC to have on file, but didn't charge until later. I just use a Passport Card, but I'm sure a US State ID or of course photo of your passport would work.
My advice is not worry about the months but instead holidays. December January and February are probably slower months since you have many people take vacation for cristmas new years and carnavale most regulars will likely be busy with their family's in September just need to avoid the week of September 7th brazilian independence day. Any holidays will affect the normal business. As girls know there will be less guys so they themselves may take a break. Don't think rain changes things too much.Anecdotally, when I've been in Rio during the summer months I've met many girls from Sao Paulo and Mineras who say they've worked at Scandallo. Rio has many more working girls during the Brazilian summer than during the winter and I'm guessing that pulls from Scandallo a bit. That noted, the 45 mimute flights are often only $40-$60 between cities and girls will fly back and forth during the week to work and for certain clients. Again, this is what I picked up from talking to girls.
Spent few days in sao paulo, most of nights in casarao, in rua augusta, lot of girls (in weekdays few less), they usually ask for 350 reais - 30 min, but you can bargain a bit, entrance is 50, hotel reservation another 50.
I also received a good massage here: https://massagemessenciallesp.com.br/#promo.It was good meeting you Ringudoor. Piggy-backing on this, It was 400-500 R (hotter girl) for an hour and 100 R for the room. You will frequently need to wait in line. I understand girls don't really show up until after 12 am.
Yeahh! Sorry, you all right.
Flights arrive 18 hours / 7 days a week. Not 24/7.
My mistake.
24/7? I thought there was no commercial flight between midnight and 6 am.
DonCarlos1234
08-25-23, 22:47
It was good meeting you Ringudoor. Piggy-backing on this, It was 400-500 R (hotter girl) for an hour and 100 R for the room. You will frequently need to wait in line. I understand girls don't really show up until after 12 am.In Colombia if you go to a "Casa" you are going to have sex. If you go to a massage spa. Maybe just a happy ending. These places are often in someone's house so it can be confusing. The girls at Casas in Colombia are nowhere near as hot as the photos of girls at Clinicas in Brazil.
In Brazil I'the like to know what is the difference between Clinicas with various hot girls photos on their web pages? We would like to have sex but might settle for happy ending. What is possible?
Am I guaranteed a happy ending for their services? Is there often, sometimes or usually a guarantee of sex? Does it depend on the girl doing the massage or the clinic I go to? Does it depend on tipping the girl or how much I pay the clinic? Should I expect up to $100 usd? Does it depend on what they call the massage (nuru, tanatric etc) that I pay for? How do I make a choice?
Miruna.
Moma Prime.
Palms Abbobora.
Taj Mahal.
Ora Spa.
Clinica Tangara.
57 Friends.
Enjoy.
Spa.
Yankin.
Lotus Lounge.
Sharon Premium.
Are there some key or secret words to use to ask for intimacy / sex when making a "reservation" on WhatsApp or do you find out when you get there? Should I visit all of them? LOL.
Jimmy Boy 99
08-25-23, 23:29
In Colombia if you go to a "Casa" you are going to have sex. If you go to a massage spa. Maybe just a happy ending. These places are often in someone's house so it can be confusing. The girls at Casas in Colombia are nowhere near as hot as the photos of girls at Clinicas in Brazil.
In Brazil I'the like to know what is the difference between Clinicas with various hot girls photos on their web pages? We would like to have sex but might settle for happy ending. What is possible?
Am I guaranteed a happy ending for their services? Is there often, sometimes or usually a guarantee of sex? Does it depend on the girl doing the massage or the clinic I go to? Does it depend on tipping the girl or how much I pay the clinic? Should I expect up to $100 usd? Does it depend on what they call the massage (nuru, tanatric etc) that I pay for? How do I make a choice?.BJ and full vaginal sex are standard in SP Clinicas, and sometimes anal (depending on the girl and perhaps an extra fee). I have been to all of the ones you listed (except Taj Mahal, Ora Spa, Lotus Lounge, and Sharon Premium) and they are all full sex. I would expect that the ones I haven't gone to are all also full sex but you could confirm with reception that is the case. To ensure that you get what you want, talk to the girl you are interested to see if she does what you want (DFK, BBBJ, anal, DATY, CIM, etc) and if there is an extra fee for them, and then decide whether to go to the room.
SamaRiding
08-26-23, 00:32
In Colombia if you go to a "Casa" you are going to have sex. If you go to a massage spa. Maybe just a happy ending. These places are often in someone's house so it can be confusing. The girls at Casas in Colombia are nowhere near as hot as the photos of girls at Clinicas in Brazil.
In Brazil I'the like to know what is the difference between Clinicas with various hot girls photos on their web pages? We would like to have sex but might settle for happy ending. What is possible?
Am I guaranteed a happy ending for their services? Is there often, sometimes or usually a guarantee of sex? Does it depend on the girl doing the massage or the clinic I go to? Does it depend on tipping the girl or how much I pay the clinic? Should I expect up to $100 usd? Does it depend on what they call the massage (nuru, tanatric etc) that I pay for? How do I make a choice?
Miruna.
Moma Prime.
Palms Abbobora..I don't know any of the clinicas that keep their website up to date with the girl roster. This is done daily through WhatsApp. I think their websites are really facades to make seems like legit businesses. The moema clinicas, prime, 57, enjoy and Tangara, etc, there is no massage, just sex. In some of the higher end clinicas like lotus, palms, oro, the girls usually start with a massage and I have seen a few of these clinicas offer two options, a regular massage with BJ ending, or sex (complete). They cater to the older and richer clientele in SP. These messages are pretty weak and usually you can ask the girl to skip the massage. The massages are all the same bad and I have not seen a true nuru plus sex option. When I want a good massage, I look a legit massage place which advertises to women and offers manicures / yoga. Hahaha.
Nebulousity
08-26-23, 02:51
Am I guaranteed a happy ending for their services? Is there often, sometimes or usually a guarantee of sex? Does it depend on the girl doing the massage or the clinic I go to? Does it depend on tipping the girl or how much I pay the clinic? Should I expect up to $100 usd? Does it depend on what they call the massage (nuru, tanatric etc) that I pay for? How do I make a choice?
The higher end Clinicas (Taj Mahal R400, Sharon R600, Lotus R800, Oro R600, Baronesa R700, all numbers approximate) all offer FS but often they start with a 10 minute massage that escalates. The only one of the high end Clinicas where you might have to explicitly ask is Sharon, because they offer an option for R400 without FS. In the session they might ask if you are familiar with the house, and usually saying you want "todo" / "everything" does the trick. The next tier down of Clinicas will usually skip massage and dive right in, although, amusingly, sometimes the front desk will say "boa massagem" / "have a good massage" when they drop you off in the room.
I learned about a few new spots today from the recent posts. I'd like to know these costly clinicas have better quality or not in terms of women. The pics on their website look great for the facility, but are women worth the price?
Palms: I believe it is are $ 750.
Taj Mahal: 450.
Sharon: don't know cost.
Ora Spa: couldn't find.
Can someone provide some insights thanks.
Am I guaranteed a happy ending for their services? Is there often, sometimes or usually a guarantee of sex? Does it depend on the girl doing the massage or the clinic I go to? Does it depend on tipping the girl or how much I pay the clinic? Should I expect up to $100 usd? Does it depend on what they call the massage (nuru, tanatric etc) that I pay for? How do I make a choice?.I've seen it suggested somewhere that massage places where they don't or don't usually offer FS are called Therapeuticas instead of Clinicas; unhelpfully I don't recall where I saw that.
Nebulousity
08-26-23, 20:01
I learned about a few new spots today from the recent posts. I'd like to know these costly clinicas have better quality or not in terms of women. The pics on their website look great for the facility, but are women worth the price?
Palms: I believe it is are $ 750.
Taj Mahal: 450.
Sharon: don't know cost.
Ora Spa: couldn't find.
Can someone provide some insights thanks.Generally, the high end SP Clinicas are about 2 x or 3 x the cost of the next tier down of Clinica (and they are about half the cost of Scandallo). What do you get for that extra expense?
1. Nicer facility / better rooms. Taj, Baronesas, and Sharon are all recently renovated, and have a more upscale environment.
2. About 1 or 2 out of 10 massagistas have more of a natural / no tatoo look vs what you'll generally find in the next tier down of Clinica.
3. Some of them (Sharon, Taj, Baronesas) start as early as 10 AM. The next tier down Clinica doesn't get going until around 1 or 2 PM.
If you are a Clinica veteran and you don't want to do repeat sessions, and you like more of a natural look, you can supplement the regular Clinicas with some high quality sessions in these. The photos on the websites of Taj, Sharon, Baronesas, and Lotus are pretty accurate.
SamaRiding
08-26-23, 21:11
I learned about a few new spots today from the recent posts. I'd like to know these costly clinicas have better quality or not in terms of women. The pics on their website look great for the facility, but are women worth the price?
Palms: I believe it is are $ 750.
Taj Mahal: 450.
Sharon: don't know cost.
Ora Spa: couldn't find.
Can someone provide some insights thanks.The girls in the higher end clinicas on average are better looking than the regular clinicas. They are more selective on the girls and tend to be better dressed. If you are short on time, and just want to visit one clinica, you have a better chance of finding a girl you want at high end one. But the biggest difference is the rooms, they are more luxury spa and that's what you are really paying for. I have seen girls bounce back and forth between high end and regular clinicas. In terms of girl service, the girls are about equal. I actually think I have gotten better service from regular clinica girls. You don't have to deal with the massage BS at the start of the session. In a hour session, I usually get 2 pops in a regular while at the higher end it's usually one and done. Also the girl presentation at high ends are mostly by tablet, not in person for some strange reason.
DonCarlos1234
08-26-23, 22:32
Generally, the high end SP Clinicas are about 2 x or 3 x the cost of the next tier down of Clinica (and they are about half the cost of Scandallo). What do you get for that extra expense?
1. Nicer facility / better rooms. Taj, Baronesas, and Sharon are all recently renovated, and have a more upscale environment.
2. About 1 or 2 out of 10 massagistas have more of a natural / no tatoo look vs what you'll generally find in the next tier down of Clinica.
3. Some of them (Sharon, Taj, Baronesas) start as early as 10 AM. The next tier down Clinica doesn't get going until around 1 or 2 PM.
If you are a Clinica veteran and you don't want to do repeat sessions, and you like more of a natural look, you can supplement the regular Clinicas with some high quality sessions in these. The photos on the websites of Taj, Sharon, Baronesas, and Lotus are pretty accurate.Great info! I land Sept 6th. Looking at their websites it seems the high end clinicas are trying to be mini. Mini Scandallo's. For 1/2 or less money. Chicago85 We need to meet one day. I will test the merchandise on arrival and report. LOL Orospa. Oswaldo Casimiro Mller, 296 - Cidade Mones, / Sharon Premium Praa Dr. Carvalho Franco, 55 - Vila Mariana / Lotus Lounge 98 VF+Q8 Vila Olmpia, Sao Paulo.
Great info! I land Sept 6th. Looking at their websites it seems the high end clinicas are trying to be mini. Mini Scandallo's. For 1/2 or less money. Chicago85 We need to meet one day. I will test the merchandise on arrival and report. LOL Orospa. Oswaldo Casimiro Mller, 296 - Cidade Mones, / Sharon Premium Praa Dr. Carvalho Franco, 55 - Vila Mariana / Lotus Lounge 98 VF+Q8 Vila Olmpia, Sao Paulo.Do any of the high end clinicas offer a live presentation? Or is it always tablet presentations?
In Colombia if you go to a "Casa" you are going to have sex.....They are basically the same as casa.
A few weeks ago, I had a session at a clinica. The reception was saying she could not find my review on GPG so I wasn't qualified for discount and charged me 270. The discount price is 200. I paid and left. I checked my GPG account and I had review but it's not recent. I went back to the clinica to show the receptionist the review for the reason I don't want them to think I was lying about it because my understanding from the receptionist was that I DID NOT have review and was trying to get a discount.
Now she said that my review wasn't recent and I had to post review for each visit to get discount. I am OK with that as it's their rule but I am not going to do that. I then wanted to clarify that how much time I was charged. Was it half hour or 1 hour because I always ask for half hour for new girl. She said I went over a little then proceed to return 70 back to me which I did not ask for. That was actually weird because I wasn't planning on asking money back and did not expect her to do that.
But if she did not give me the 70, my next question was going to be why the intercom didn't ring at about 25 or 20 minutes into the session to warn me?
I post this so you are aware of a few things. In some clinicas, Locals and I am already paying less then you and I don't usually tip. Some clinicas have half hour option. There may or may not have a warning bell before time is up. I suggest that you ask the receptionist to talk to the girl before going to the room and interview her about the services you want. You don't want to negotiate in the room naked. I have done that and reported here. The girl did not do BBBJ so I asked for another girl in the room naked. The new girl came and asked for 100 extra for something that is free 99% of the time. LOL.
DonCarlos1234
08-27-23, 08:57
They are basically the same as casa.
A few weeks ago, I had a session at a clinica. The reception was saying she could not find my review on GPG so I wasn't qualified for discount and charged me 270. The discount price is 200. I paid and left. I checked my GPG account and I had review but it's not recent. I went back to the clinica to show the receptionist the review for the reason I don't want them to think I was lying about it because my understanding from the receptionist was that I DID NOT have review and was trying to get a discount.
Now she said that my review wasn't recent and I had to post review for each visit to get discount. I am OK with that as it's their rule but I am not going to do that. I then wanted to clarify that how much time I was charged. Was it half hour or 1 hour because I always ask for half hour for new girl. She said I went over a little then proceed to return 70 back to me which I did not ask for. That was actually weird because I wasn't planning on asking money back and did not expect her to do that.
But if she did not give me the 70, my next question was going to be why the intercom didn't ring at about 25 or 20 minutes into the session to warn me?
I post this so you are aware of a few things. In some clinicas, Locals and I am already paying less then you and I don't usually tip. Some clinicas have half hour option. There may or may not have a warning bell before time is up. I suggest that you ask the receptionist to talk to the girl before going to the room and interview her about the services you want. You don't want to negotiate in the room naked. I have done that and reported here. The girl did not do BBBJ so I asked for another girl in the room naked. The new girl came and asked for 100 extra for something that is free 99% of the time. LOL.I read that post from you somewhere. Sometimes we have to stand our ground. While naked. Usually in Medellin I as at Dann Carlton (they liked me, said I set a record for good looking guests, never charged me, dah) Catfishing girl or problem girls got kicked out or were not allowed onto the property. Sometimes I felt band and would give them 100 cop for uber. New country, new rules, more fun! I have high & low expectations for Brazil. Mostly HIGH! All the GFE in Colombia were SA girls except a few from La Isla, better when you see / meet them in person. But not always needed. YMMV. I agree that SA is unnecessary in Brazil. Cane
Nebulousity
08-27-23, 12:31
Do any of the high end clinicas offer a live presentation? Or is it always tablet presentations?All of them are tablet only, except Sharon, where you can ask for a presentation of up to three people. It can be a little tricky using the tablets, although a few of them have occasional videos (which are more accurate) and at least you can tell who is more natural / has fewer tattoos if you care about that. Sometimes the tablet will list height too (in meters).
Has anyone used AA miles when booking Rio (SDU) to SP (CGH) ? Any issues at check in, etc?
Has anyone used AA miles when booking Rio (SDU) to SP (CGH) ? Any issues at check in, etc?I have not used AA miles, but both airports are glorified modern bus or train stations. They are not necessarily dirty, but quite chaotic, very crowded, and a bit disorganized. Think LGA on a bad day before the remodel. That noted, I would still use them given convenience, just give yourself an extra 45 minutes if you need to check a bag (can take some time).
Great info! I land Sept 6th. Looking at their websites it seems the high end clinicas are trying to be mini. Mini Scandallo's. For 1/2 or less money. Chicago85 We need to meet one day. I will test the merchandise on arrival and report. LOL Orospa. Oswaldo Casimiro Mller, 296 - Cidade Mones, / Sharon Premium Praa Dr. Carvalho Franco, 55 - Vila Mariana / Lotus Lounge 98 VF+Q8 Vila Olmpia, Sao Paulo.Agree DonCarlos1234!
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