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148 is clinica Yankin. Lots of Asian guys go here. Yankin and Tangara are the largest and best clinicas in this area IMO, which rivals moema. Daily lineups are 10-20 girls each and these places get busy. I have thought about parking myself between these two clinicas instead of my usual moema. Now we're taking. Why? Are there Asian chicks?
All of them are tablet only, except Sharon, where you can ask for a presentation of up to three people. It can be a little tricky using the tablets, although a few of them have occasional videos (which are more accurate) and at least you can tell who is more natural / has fewer tattoos if you care about that. Sometimes the tablet will list height too (in meters).If you leave without selecting anyone after the tablet presentation, is there any hassle / issue from the owner (madam) ?
I'm seeing some hotties on eros-guia site. After whatsapp exchange with many, and when I ask for services offered, I get back 'Servicios completo' or 'Servicios liberal'. I understand the translation but what should you really expect for service when they are not clear. It sound more of a potential bait and switch tactic where they can easily deny service and encounter a bad experience. What have you experienced with Indy's from this site? How reliable are these photos? Do you pay upon entry before service or do you pay after the service?
Here is one such hottie: https://erosguia.com.br/126757.html.
I like both spots. Tangara gets more foreigners but they are otherwise pretty similar. I avoid the bar at Yankin because they allow smoking in there and customers take advantage of the option. The desk guy who is usually there is Japa.
Now we're taking. Why? Are there Asian chicks?
Nebulousity
08-29-23, 02:48
If you leave without selecting anyone after the tablet presentation, is there any hassle / issue from the owner (madam) ?There is no hassle if you leave without selecting. For Oro and The Palms, they don't post photos online so going in person and viewing the tablet is the only way to get a sense of who is available. You can also make appointments for a future day in person when visiting, if someone you're interested in isn't there when you visit. For Lotus, Taj, and Baronesas, sometimes going in person is the only way to see pictures that don't cover faces, so it can be worth visiting just to confirm your interest. Generally the hosts are relaxed and friendly. You can also leave without hassle in the regular non tablet Clinicas if you aren't interested after an in person presentation.
The Critic
08-29-23, 02:50
I'm seeing some hotties on eros-guia site. After whatsapp exchange with many, and when I ask for services offered, I get back 'Servicios completo' or 'Servicios liberal'. I understand the translation but what should you really expect for service when they are not clear. It sound more of a potential bait and switch tactic where they can easily deny service and encounter a bad experience. What have you experienced with Indy's from this site? How reliable are these photos? Do you pay upon entry before service or do you pay after the service?
Here is one such hottie: https://erosguia.com.br/126757.html.Like anything in life if you want to be sure ask Direct questions to the provider. You never know, X could mean different things depending on who the provider is, meaning from one provider to another provider the same terms may include or exclude certain services. You never want to get into a situation where the provider says Oh, Thats Extra, or I Don't Do That.
I always indicate I want X, Y, and Z services. OR If they say "Servicios completo", I'll still make sure to ask if it includes X service (s).
Oh, the hottie in your link is nice. (Thanks for posting the link)
SamaRiding
08-29-23, 03:16
I'm seeing some hotties on eros-guia site. After whatsapp exchange with many, and when I ask for services offered, I get back 'Servicios completo' or 'Servicios liberal'. I understand the translation but what should you really expect for service when they are not clear. It sound more of a potential bait and switch tactic where they can easily deny service and encounter a bad experience. What have you experienced with Indy's from this site? How reliable are these photos? Do you pay upon entry before service or do you pay after the service?
Here is one such hottie: https://erosguia.com.br/126757.html.I haven't heard of this website before nor have I seen it mentioned here on the forum before. Looking at the photos of the girls, I think there is high probability this is full of fakes ads. Why not stick to the more reputable websites listed many times here before. I'll give you a hint. Search for clubmodel, mclass, private55. Most the girls on these sites are real since they paid for the ads. Of course do your homework first and be specific if you want a specific service. Also can cross reference girls with reports on gpguia.
SamaRiding
08-29-23, 03:28
Now we're taking. Why? Are there Asian chicks?Yankin. One of the managers is a Asian guy. They seem to have a higher percentage of white thin girls.
As for the elusive oriental or Japanese working girls, I have given up finding a house full of them. It doesn't seem to exist or it's a very good secret. I've asked local asian guys, and they don't know of any. There is a few Japanese girl at scandallo, clinicas and online but they usually not the petite spinners I prefer. That's ok, there are plenty of thin white blondes and redheads.
Nebulousity
08-29-23, 03:52
I'm seeing some hotties on eros-guia site.One great thing about SP is that there are so many in person options, with all the clinicas and boates. The in person options really help you avoid the online bait and switch risk and the time wasted waiting around in the hotel. In SP it's generally easier to get what you want, more efficiently, with the popular locations discussed frequently here in this thread. It's likely safer too.
Yankin. One of the managers is a Asian guy. They seem to have a higher percentage of white thin girls.
As for the elusive oriental or Japanese working girls, I have given up finding a house full of them. It doesn't seem to exist or it's a very good secret. I've asked local asian guys, and they don't know of any. There is a few Japanese girl at scandallo, clinicas and online but they usually not the petite spinners I prefer. That's ok, there are plenty of thin white blondes and redheads.Where do I find these "thin white blondes and redheads"? Is there a place that's full of them?
Has anyone been to Curitiba, Blumenau and Florianopolis? I've heard good things about these 3 cities, but their threads seem to be inactive. Are there good looking escorts?Curitiba nothing to see there, boring city with few life.
There are more redheads in Southern Brazil than other parts of the country, Sao Paulo is still the south.
They are called ruivas in portuguese.
Where do I find these "thin white blondes and redheads"? Is there a place that's full of them?
Went to Scandallo last week and the ratio of guys to girls was good, apparently slow month there and girls were complaining how they couldn't hook anyone. A girl went to the room with me for 500 R, she told me where she use to work which I've been to and ask her to give me the same rate and she agreed LOL. She was a solid 9.
Next night solid 9.5, I got there late and it was getting towards the closing time. I asked her how much to go out, she said 1 mil and she ended up staying in my room for 12 hours.
Case in point, do not need to pay tourist / gringo price.
Funny thing, as price of entry to Scandallo has increased there has been probably less clients and girls have to lower their price instead of increasing also.
FRobertson
08-30-23, 23:05
Colleagues, I had a visit to Clinica Tangara and just had to share this experience.
There's a new girl there, her name is Natasha (different girl from Nataly, who, by the way, is also wonderful). Tall, all-natural, wide hips, soft skin, magic tongue. Great friendly attitude. Very huggable.
She can speak very good English and she wants to practice more.
Being the selfless hero that I am, I gladly took it upon myself to give her a chance to practice during our encounter.
But she wants more. So now I'd like to share this opportunity with all of you.
Help Natasha with her English!
She gets to the clinica usually around 1 pm or so.
DonCarlos1234
09-01-23, 06:38
I land September 6th In the midst of Brazils Independence Day celebrations. What will be open? Any clinics. Clubs? I stay next to Casarao.
I am in contact with 3 girls that speak English and charge 500-700/ hour if I come to their place. The same to meet at mine (plus uber) all 3 are wifey material. Potential travel buddies. But no time to see how is goes, communicate and talk about traveling together. I land and leave for Rio 3 nights later.
Separate question. It seems the spa / clinic girls charge nearly the same and I wonder why because I think the online girls are the better quality (clubmodel high end etc) probably more to choose from at clinicas. With some wifey material?
You arrive 6 and 7 is independence no labor day, so 6 at night all clubs will be open and many players in the field. You should start the earliest possible.
Just confirmed that many companies will give the chance to their workers to complete friday 8-sept during the rest of the month. So expect 8-sept as kind of no labor day.
Casarao, you'll be close to Rua Augusta, the slope straight to hell (in the good sense) you can find everything on that street. Be careful with your belongings there because it's very crowded. Not crowded on the attached pics because it was Tuesday.
I would go to the higher end clubs before Casarao, because you'll be close to it the following days.
Sleep well before your trip because you'll have 3 rush days.
What time do you arrive in Guarulhos? i would recommend to take an airport taxi there, it may be expensive, but time is gold in your short trip.
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I land September 6th In the midst of Brazils Independence Day celebrations. What will be open? Any clinics. Clubs? I stay next to Casarao.
I am in contact with 3 girls that speak English and charge 500-700/ hour if I come to their place. The same to meet at mine (plus uber) all 3 are wifey material. Potential travel buddies. But no time to see how is goes, communicate and talk about traveling together. I land and leave for Rio 3 nights later.
Separate question. It seems the spa / clinic girls charge nearly the same and I wonder why because I think the online girls are the better quality (clubmodel high end etc) probably more to choose from at clinicas. With some wifey material?
DonCarlos1234
09-02-23, 00:02
You arrive 6 and 7 is independence no labor day, so 6 at night all clubs will be open and many players in the field. You should start the earliest possible.
Just confirmed that many companies will give the chance to their workers to complete friday 8-sept during the rest of the month. So expect 8-sept as kind of no labor day.
Casarao, you'll be close to Rua Augusta, the slope straight to hell (in the good sense) you can find everything on that street. Be careful with your belongings there because it's very crowded. Not crowded on the attached pics because it was Tuesday.
I would go to the higher end clubs before Casarao, because you'll be close to it the following days.
Sleep well before your trip because you'll have 3 rush days.
What time do you arrive in Guarulhos? ?? i would recommend to take an airport taxi there, it may be expensive, but time is gold in your short trip.
Note: In few days we'll have a second banner on the sidebars of this forum to very interesting video content. We're advertisers.Coolsville.
Arrive early 7:30 AM. I am in Brazil for 2 weeks but first 3 nights in Sao before heading to Rio for more "wholesome" outdoor activities. And I hope to have a wifey by then. LOL return to Sao after 4 nights in Rio. Although future X Wife might ask me to stay longer. Nounce says Scandallo and Casarao will be open. Don't know about clinics. Still wonder if those girls are as hot as the Clubmodel girls (who speak English) and charge around 600 brl total.
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Arrive early 7:30 AM. I am in Brazil for 2 weeks but first 3 nights in Sao before heading to Rio for more "wholesome" outdoor activities. And I hope to have a wifey by then. LOL return to Sao after 4 nights in Rio. Although future X Wife might ask me to stay longer. Nounce says Scandallo and Casarao will be open. Don't know about clinics. Still wonder if those girls are as hot as the Clubmodel girls (who speak English) and charge around 600 brl total.Clinicas will be open. On average the girls from clubmodel are better looking. They have to pay to be on the site.
CenTexCrash
09-02-23, 16:42
Wondering if there's any action in SP on Sundays or if it's same as RDJ everything closes up.
Right now I guess Labor Day sale, Copa Airlines selling RT to GRU or BsAs EZE for $530-550. If both use Sunday as one way flight day.
The joys of impulse travel planning.
After somebody else's review, I was interested in adding this place to my list. But, looked at the website and saw too much "trans" on the menu:
https://www.sharonpremium.com.br/terapeutas
SoberHans69
09-02-23, 18:12
Wondering if there's any action in SP on Sundays or if it's same as RDJ everything closes up.
Right now I guess Labor Day sale, Copa Airlines selling RT to GRU or BsAs EZE for $530-550. If both use Sunday as one way flight day.
The joys of impulse travel planning.There's a few clinicas open (expect them to be busy) and Casarao is open too.
I can't remember which Clinicas are open but I'm pretty sure Tangara and a couple in Moema (Prime and Miruna maybe?) are.
Wondering if there's any action in SP on Sundays or if it's same as RDJ everything closes up.
AFAIK, prime and maruna clinicas are open for daytime fun. For nighttime Casarao boete is open.
Axel Heyst
09-02-23, 22:13
After somebody else's review, I was interested in adding this place to my list. But, looked at the website and saw too much "trans" on the menu:
https://www.sharonpremium.com.br/terapeutasYes, I went there one afternoon on my last SP trip in June. I think they had 2. It did not bother me. After fucking around in LOS for 25 years I got use to seeing ladyboys hanging around Nana and Sukhumvit. In the case of Sharon Premium, customers never see any of the trannys unless they want to because like all the high end SP clinicas, there is no lineup. So, Sharon customers are shown photoshopped photos of available girls (and trannys) only.
I have been meaning to post a review of high end clinicas. I visited several in June. The Palms was easily my favorite high ender. Lotus Lounge and Sharon came in a distant 2nd & 3rd place respectively. I did not have the time to check out the Taj, but I plan to go there when I am back in town. I like the concept: give customers boate quality girls, upscale even luxurious rooms, and quality afternoon sex for half the cost as a couple of hours at Scandallo or Bomboa. Sounds good to me! The more venues the better.
OK. So, the Palms was the only high end clinica that I visited more than once during my last trip. KKK. Of my 4 Palm girls, 2 were outstanding and I mean smokin hot, great in bed, and definitely worth the money (400 br to the house / 350 br to the girl) and 2 were not. The problem, as I see it, with all of these high end clinicas is in the selection process; the photoshopped photo lineup shown on a tiny laptop. I don't know why they do it. My guess is it is to keep the girl's identity under wraps as much as possible. Anyway, I had a great time twice at the Palms with boate quality tier 1 girls when the girl I selected turned out to be better looking than her photos. That's 50% of the time I knocked the ball out of the park at the Palms! The other times that I went there and to the other 2 high end clinicas mentioned above, I received friendly, good service, but felt I had overpaid especially compared to what I was getting for around half the money at Abboboro and Prime.
But I really liked those 2 Palm girls, KKK, and so I will accept the risks involved in the selection process and I will go back for more in December.
DonCarlos1234
09-03-23, 05:46
Yes, I went there one afternoon on my last SP trip in June. I think they had 2. It did not bother me. After fucking around in LOS for 25 years I got use to seeing ladyboys hanging around Nana and Sukhumvit. In the case of Sharon Premium, customers never see any of the trannys unless they want to because like all the high end SP clinicas, there is no lineup. So, Sharon customers are shown photoshopped photos of available girls (and trannys) only.
I have been meaning to post a review of high end clinicas. I visited several in June. The Palms was easily my favorite high ender. Lotus Lounge and Sharon came in a distant 2nd & 3rd place respectively. I did not have the time to check out the Taj, but I plan to go there when I am back in town. I like the concept: give customers boate quality girls, upscale even luxurious rooms, and quality afternoon sex for half the cost as a couple of hours at Scandallo or Bomboa. Sounds good to me! The more venues the better.
OK. So, the Palms was the only high end clinica that I visited more than once during my last trip. KKK. Of my 4 Palm girls, 2 were outstanding and I mean smokin hot, great in bed, and definitely worth the money (400 br to the house / 350 br to the girl) and 2 were not. The problem, as I see it, with all of these high end clinicas is in the selection process; the photoshopped photo lineup shown on a tiny laptop. I don't know why they do it. My guess is it is to keep the girl's identity under wraps as much as possible. Anyway, I had a great time twice at the Palms with boate quality tier 1 girls when the girl I selected turned out to be better looking than her photos. That's 50% of the time I knocked the ball out of the park at the Palms! The other times that I went there and to the other 2 high end clinicas mentioned above, I received friendly, good service, but felt I had overpaid especially compared to what I was getting for around half the money at Abboboro and Prime.
But I really liked those 2 Palm girls, KKK, and so I will accept the risks involved in the selection process and I will go back for more in December.You are my hero.
I will be exploring some of those same places. Do you think the (high end) clinica girls are potential for takeout or for getting numbers for later dates. Maybe love motel or hotel? Would you need to be discreet or be in a room first to ask for their number?
Axel Heyst
09-03-23, 13:06
I will be exploring some of those same places. Do you think the (high end) clinica girls are potential for takeout or for getting numbers for later dates. Maybe love motel or hotel? Would you need to be discreet or be in a room first to ask for their number?Getting the numbers of your favorite girls and seeing them on the outside is extremely doable. I have the WhatsApp line of my 2 outstanding Palm girls and I hope they are still around when I get back to SP. But remember, the rooms at these "high end" joints are very impressive, especially the rooms at the Palm. I was joking with the Palm's manager one afternoon after a session, and I told him I wanted to rent out one of his rooms and stay at the Palms instead of my 5 star hotel. KKK. The rooms are that 1st class, nicer than Scandallo rooms with sunken bedrooms and heat!
But it still all depends on the girls. My 2 favorite SP clinicas are Abboboro and the Palms. Two very, very different style of clinicas, but both have what I like. The trick at the high-end places is spotting the right girl from the pics which is not always as easy as it sounds. I look for tell signs in the photoshopped image that made it thru the edit like slender thighs or thin arms.
Isn't that pretty expensive to gru?
Wondering if there's any action in SP on Sundays or if it's same as RDJ everything closes up.
Right now I guess Labor Day sale, Copa Airlines selling RT to GRU or BsAs EZE for $530-550. If both use Sunday as one way flight day.
The joys of impulse travel planning.
CenTexCrash
09-05-23, 22:15
Isn't that pretty expensive to gru?Copa Air just began serving Austin AUS a few weeks ago. Prices to Brazil were hovering around $800-1000.
In years past quoted almost $1300 to EZE via either AUS SAT IAH or DFW.
Got a price alert flights to Latin America out of AUS crazy low. All thru Copa and some Delta.
$250 to Costa Rica; $350 to Lima / Bogota; $550 GRU or EZE.
In past, to save money I would take bus down to Monterrey and fly to Central / South America via MTY or MEX for about $500-600.
So my mentality as it stands, this would save me 1-2 days each way of utilizing Mexico as the middle man.
I guess I'm still bitter my 4 day trip to RDJ last year had some self inflicted road bumps so vengeful flesh pounding trip is what I'm Jonesing for.
Tomorrow the World Cup qualifiers start and my team will have its first match tomorrow Friday. Something that sends me back to the 2016 nights when I had a very jealous GF who was a big fan of our national team.
So one of those nights, the matches served me as a perfect smoke screen. By then Bomboa 222 had nice restaurant and big Tv Screens. So few minutes before the matches I arrived there and sent a couple of selfies to my GF, so I could say "Hey honey, I'm in a restaurant and friends to see the match. Bla bla bla" so she could see I was in a quite normal place because there were truly lots of locals hehehehe. It worked perfect.
In 90 minutes I could f*ck at least one girl in the room upstairs and attend part of the match in the restaurant touching a juicy pair of tits and legs. Of course in the room I only had twitter notifications about the main plays of the match so I could exchange a few comments with my GF.
I made this at least in three different matches. Yeahhh futbol in South America rules!
Note: attached pic of the front door of Bomboa 222 those days. It looks like a safe zone, right?
Did anybody notice this new advertisement on this site? Seems interesting with lots of good perspectives:
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Did anybody notice this new advertisement on this site? Seems interesting with lots of good perspectives:
https://trippingdudes.com/index.php/sao-paulo-video-walking-tours/To each his own I guess. Paying $ for POV of just waking in to Scandallo, Tangara, Cafe photo etc? Waste of $$ I hope these aren't your vids LOL.
To each his own I guess. Paying $ for POV of just waking in to Scandallo, Tangara, Cafe photo etc? Waste of $$ I hope these aren't your vids LOL.They are not my vids, and I was not encouraging anyone to pay for them. In fact, there seems to be quite a lot there to see for free.
The Critic
09-10-23, 06:44
To each his own I guess. Paying $ for POV of just waking in to Scandallo, Tangara, Cafe photo etc? Waste of $$ I hope these aren't your vids LOL.I agree waste of money especially when you can google name of venue / address and via google maps using street view feature and view the route (I. E. , travel the route). If you want to know where to go.
Also, I don't need video to show me how to get out of an UBER and walk to an entrance of any building to the reception desk either.
Also, virtually all of the content is free on YouTube, with the abundance of nightlife/walking tour videos, just being repackaged to monetize content.
I agree waste of money especially when you can google name of venue / address and via google maps using street view feature and view the route (I. E. , travel the route). If you want to know where to go.
Also, I don't need video to show me how to get out of an UBER and walk to an entrance of any building to the reception desk either.
Also, virtually all of the content is free on YouTube, with the abundance of nightlife/walking tour videos, just being repackaged to monetize content.Agreed. I've never stepped foot on Brazilian soil yet but I've "walked" everywhere courtesy of Google Maps. More power to them though. Capitalism ya'll.
-J.
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The mentioned site is the creation of my company, among other sites, and we're proud to announce that we'll share our travel experience from the most attractive countries of South America during the last 20 years, not only with never been seen video / pictures, but also personal chat. That makes a whole difference because our videos include chat time as special launch offer.
Maybe most of you have access to enough free information, that's ok and I respect it, but there are thousands of visitors from other countries who may not have an account on the forum or are planning a trip and want to have an extra closer look. And we have fantastic VIP content you'll never EVER find on Youtube.
No, we're not a dating nor escort agency, so everything perfectly fine.
In the last months, tens of members have contacted me by PM asking about our content, so this site is product of many of those conversations.
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Attached: film pic from 2002 till 2023.
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This is a great review! Very helpful!! I myself I'm into mulattos and black girls with big phat asses that are natural. Seems like you have similar taste. I've been to Rio so many times I can't even count but I've never been. To Sao Paolo outside of the airport. I always wondered if this city had the type of talent that I like or was it mainly white Brazilian chicks. Based on your report it seems Sao Paolo may be worth checking out!! Thanks!!Rio definitely has more options for finding thick darker-skinned girls than SP but SP is so big that there are still good opportunities there and it's worth visiting. The difference is that in Rio there are termas like 4 x4 etc. You can go and find that type of girl, whereas in SP from my experience you will have to search online for independent girls that fit that type. I wish there was a 4 x4 equivalent in SP but it doesn't exist as far as I know.
IMHO this is disrespectful. These GDP's must know they are either close to starting or have started their period and should let you know it's a possibility it may start or has started. If they could be upfront then you could just ask for alternate services such as BJ only or Anal, etc. And avoid the mess.
They know better ......They know when their period starts and ends.I totally agree, girls usually know when their period is coming. I'm pretty sure most girls don't work when they have their period but I guess some are desperate for money or don't care. Either way I was super unlucky it happened to me 3 times on that trip, but has never happened to me before during any other trips or sessions back home.
Rio definitely has more options for finding thick darker-skinned girls than SP but SP is so big that there are still good opportunities there and it's worth visiting. The difference is that in Rio there are termas like 4 x4 etc. You can go and find that type of girl, whereas in SP from my experience you will have to search online for independent girls that fit that type. I wish there was a 4 x4 equivalent in SP but it doesn't exist as far as I know.
I totally agree, girls usually know when their period is coming. I'm pretty sure most girls don't work when they have their period but I guess some are desperate for money or don't care. Either way I was super unlucky it happened to me 3 times on that trip, but has never happened to me before during any other trips or sessions back home.While I'm a lover of darker skinned women as well, the thoughts of a proper lighter skinned woman with glutes of the Gods sounds mighty fine. I'm sure you've found Thor's Hammer in such situations. Godspeed.
J.
Axel Heyst
09-15-23, 23:39
I wish there was a 4 x4 equivalent in SP but it doesn't exist as far as I know. As I am sure you are aware, there are no termas in SP, so a 4 x4 equivalent is not going to be found. But so what? Sp has a 3 boates that are better than any RJ terma if quantity and quality matter. For example, compare 4 x4 with Casarao on any given night around midnight. If both bars where in the same city, and I HAD to choose between one of them, it would be no contest. I would choose Casarao almost every time. And Casarao is my 3rd favorite SP boate. Believe me when I tell you there is nothing in RJ to match the top 2 SP Boates.
...For example, compare 4 x4 with Casarao on any given night around midnight. If both bars where in the same city, and I HAD to choose between one of them, it would be no contest.....If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.
Axel Heyst
09-16-23, 15:35
If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.4 x 4 is a much smaller club than Casarao. It may seem crowded there, but there is usually a place to sit and invite girls over. So, getting friendly in-club (I know you know what I mean) happens a lot in 4 x 4. Alternatively, finding a seat in Casarao in prime time is a lot harder, so most people just walk around, stand & flirt. Obviously, you can still get friendly with a girl with the two of you standing, but not as friendly as sitting down together with a table in front of you. KKK.
But in my experience, once I take a girl out of Casarao things heat up rapidly. I have tried the ST hotel next door a couple of times, and it is a dump. I don't like it, so I now take my Casauao girls back to my hotel where I have had many great sessions with passionate, GFE kind of girls, whom I later exchanged whatsapp numbers with. The key is that it is much easier to get something going outside of the club with a boate girl than any terma girl. Boate girls are FL's, independent entrepreneurs. They do not work for the club therefore they are usually available to see you whenever you like and they really do want to see you on the outside because an outside date means they don't have to go to the club that night.
If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.Me too. I agree. Quatro por Quatro is the easy pick for me over Casarao. I like the environment, atmosphere, and "feel" better at the former. Also, the fact that the girls are walking around in skimpy little bikinis, lingerie, and other very revealing attire allowing you to check them out better adds to it all. I'll take 4 X 4 over Casarao.
Axel Heyst
09-16-23, 23:38
Me too. I agree. Quatro por Quatro is the easy pick for me over Casarao. I like the environment, atmosphere, and "feel" better at the former. Also, the fact that the girls are walking around in skimpy little bikinis, lingerie, and other very revealing attire allowing you to check them out better adds to it all. I'll take 4 X 4 over Casarao.I have always liked the "ambience" inside 4 x4. In my initial field report I think I said the vibe felt like a party party. Really great! But there is a big reason why 4 x4 is my 2nd favorite terma in RJ and Solarium is my favorite. I think you guys can figure out what that reason is.
Anyway, yeah Casarao is a fucking meat market. So I ask, what is wrong with a meat market? I like meat markets. KKK. There used to be a great one in BKK called Nataree. Too bad it got shut down for having a few underage girls. Really Dumb!
So, the first time I went to Casarao, I was duly impressed with the cold, urbane, minimalist, interior landscape and number of people. It was raw, and it felt real. I instantly recognized the joint as a meat market with a ton of girls. So, feeling more or less at home, I walked around both levels looking, looking, until I found a pretty, indigenous / mixed race spinner to my liking. I bought her a drink, she spoke some English, we got a little friendly, and then went next door to the ST hotel where she went a little wild on me in bed. The total cost for everything was under 600. I was very satisfied.
So, that's what happens at my 3rd favorite SP Boate. But at my 2 favorite Boates, which we all know are a lot more expensive, there is a lot more of that "hands on" atmosphere, good feeling that you guys mentioned earlier only here it is done on a more upscale level. As a result, when I go to Scandallo or Bomboa, I usually spend 4 or 5 hours there and make an evening out of it including diner and a possible 2nd girl. It is always money well spent.
A. H.
DonCarlos1234
09-17-23, 01:03
Scandallo is in a class by itself. Not all 10's but I saw nothing under a 7. The band was great also In one night you will see and if you have any game, some of you will meet and have a great time with the most gorgeous girls in your life. You will be amazed. LOL don't tell anyone!
Be careful that you get a FIRM commitment of what you will pay, for how long and what's included. It is very possible you will pay too much. Alas, as my friend, a manager in Las Vegas says, "how can you put a price on true love? ' he cracks me up.
Comparisons:
Tijuana. Hong Kong club in Tijuana I have seen some (but very few) girls of that caliber. And not very often. Although hktj has almost as many girls to choose from. The rooms at Scandallo are much nicer. Ok the VIP rooms are.
Colombia (mostly Medellin) also has some girls of that caliber at La Isla and some other places and they are less expensive but you need more "game" to outbid / out maneuver other guys to meet them. They are in high demand. So unlike Scandallo, it's not easy or guaranteed if you are looking for top talent, it's there. I was able to use Seeking and local models I met as referrals. Those girls are Scandallo par girls at similar (some even higher) prices. Still not all of them in one place in one night like Scandallo.
Las Vegas - 3 venues there out rank Scandallo in gaudiness, lighting, decorations and ways to take your money, The girls are Scandallo quality. (nearly half are) They will game you, tease you but there is very little sex in the VIP room. Don't waste your time unless you have thousands to entice them to leave the club without management knowing. (it happens) These girls make $1,000+ / night easily without being able to legally perform sex.
Off To Bomba.
Scandallo is in a class by itself. Not all 10's but I saw nothing under a 7. The band was great also In one night you will see and if you have any game, some of you will meet and have a great time with the most gorgeous girls in your life. You will be amazed. LOL don't tell anyone!
Be careful that you get a FIRM commitment of what you will pay, for how long and what's included. It is very possible you will pay too much. Alas, as my friend, a manager in Las Vegas says, "how can you put a price on true love? ' he cracks me up.
Comparisons:
Tijuana. Hong Kong club in Tijuana I have seen some (but very few) girls of that caliber. And not very often. Although hktj has almost as many girls to choose from. The rooms at Scandallo are much nicer. Ok the VIP rooms are.
Colombia (mostly Medellin) also has some girls of that caliber at La Isla and some other places and they are less expensive but you need more "game" to outbid / out maneuver other guys to meet them. They are in high demand. So unlike Scandallo, it's not easy or guaranteed if you are looking for top talent, it's there. I was able to use Seeking and local models I met as referrals. Those girls are Scandallo par girls at similar (some even higher) prices. Still not all of them in one place in one night like Scandallo.
Las Vegas - 3 venues there out rank Scandallo in gaudiness, lighting, decorations and ways to take your money, The girls are Scandallo quality. (nearly half are) They will game you, tease you but there is very little sex in the VIP room. Don't waste your time unless you have thousands to entice them to leave the club without management knowing. (it happens) These girls make $1,000+ / night easily without being able to legally perform sex.
Off To Bomba.Heaven on Earth. No place like it. Have you been to any clinicas to compare the quality for research purposes?
DonCarlos1234
09-17-23, 07:19
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Heaven on Earth. No place like it. Have you been to any clinicas to compare the quality for research purposes?.
OH yes and I am not finished, I will say so far the best 2 BJ's in my life happened in Sao Paulo clinics and the sex? OMG don't tell anyone. Rio has the best scenery. Sao has the girls.
If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.I pick Casarao based on my experience during 10+ visits during my past 2 trips to SP. Casarao consistently had many good looking young girls to choose compared to 4 x4.
I agree with your comments about Casarao being a meet market and most girls being very business like. The thing I like about Casarao is that you can try most of the good ones without breaking the bank. On average half hour sessions cost 250 to 300 reals (+50 for room). You may take them to your hotel for longer sessions based on their performance during the trail run. I rather do half hour sessions in Casarao than spending 330 reals at Abbabora (this clinica rarely worked for me). Unfortunately 4 x4 is not that exciting for me because it rarely had more than few good looking ones who usually are busy. As an occasional short term visitor I rather go where there are plenty to choose from than fight over few.
Axel Heyst
09-19-23, 18:00
I agree with your comments about Casarao being a meet market and most girls being very business like. The thing I like about Casarao is that you can try most of the good ones without breaking the bank. On average half hour sessions cost 250 to 300 reals (+50 for room). You may take them to your hotel for longer sessions based on their performance during the trail run. I rather do half hour sessions in Casarao than spending 330 reals at Abbabora (this clinica rarely worked for me). Unfortunately 4 x4 is not that exciting for me because it rarely had more than few good looking ones who usually are busy. As an occasional short term visitor I rather go where there are plenty to choose from than fight over few.Quantity & quality. I think we are in general agreement on this. I do a similar in-house trial run session, at least one, with all my Scandallo & Bomboa girls before I ask them to my hotel for more, more of everything. KKK.
I am surprised, however, that you don't like Abbaboro. It is one of my Moema favorites. I never had a really bad session there and although all my sessions were not 4th of July, I have had a number of memorable ones at Abboboro. So, I can't think of a better place to go for early afternoon fun at a very reasonable price. I seem to like Abboboro girls. Ha Ha.
But recently I started checking out a few "upscale" clinicas. I posted about that a few weeks ago or a month ago. Anyway, what I found was that with a little luck and skill in choosing the right girl, it was possible to have great sex with a model quality, Scandallo type girl in the afternoon for 750 BR. Is this a good price? I think it depends on how good one is at spotting winners from photoshopped pics on a small computer screen. I was "lucky" 50% of the time and those sessions were worth every penny. Great girls in bed! Beautiful to look at, and I don't throw that term around very often. So, I think this is another possible venue to consider if you are bored with the Moema clinicas or if you are out to shag a tier 1 in the afternoon. And once you have met a tier 1 in the afternoon and she proved herself to be repeat worthy; it is easy to exchange WhatsApp numbers for future rendezvous.
Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.
It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.
As I am sure you are aware, there are no termas in SP, so a 4 x4 equivalent is not going to be found. But so what? Sp has a 3 boates that are better than any RJ terma if quantity and quality matter. For example, compare 4 x4 with Casarao on any given night around midnight. If both bars where in the same city, and I HAD to choose between one of them, it would be no contest. I would choose Casarao almost every time. And Casarao is my 3rd favorite SP boate. Believe me when I tell you there is nothing in RJ to match the top 2 SP Boates.
Axel Heyst
09-20-23, 13:18
Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.
It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.This is the beauty of our sport. Every player is entitled to his opinion and is free to pursue his bliss anyway, anywhere he prefers. Preferences begin with the type of girls we like, the kind of sex that turns us on, then the choice of venues available, which cities we prefer to play in, our favorite countries to travel to, and lastly throw in any financial constraints and or individual spending limits and you have it. Everyone has their favorite fill in the blank. All I can say is the more options we have, and the higher the quantity of friendly girls on hand, the better as long as the quality is solid.
Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.
It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.I would counter that 4 x4 usually has 8-15 girls at a given night and once you go 3 times you've seen them all and their moms.
Casarao is always a different line up. You get girls coming in from scadallo, freelancers and girls just trying to make some extra cash for rent.
I met a girl in casarao in March, super chill and down to earth and now she's in miami on a trip and we met up and got some birthday sex (her's).
Casarao is like one of those kinder chocolate egg surprise candy. Its a mix bag but you definitely will find something interesting.
4 x4 is great but it gets stale after a few trips. It's only so big so not fair to compare.
Gabbarsing
09-20-23, 16:47
Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).
Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).How is mongering in Manaus, how does it compare to SP?
Steve 9696
09-20-23, 21:34
Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).I have done both and you can't even compare them. It's completely different leagues. In BA there are no Boates and clinicas. There's even not a great outcall scene imo. I was able to find two beautiful girls on Seeking Arrangements and had an amazing time. But others swear the BA girls on Seeking are stuck up. Active discussion on the Seeking thread on this. But for amazing P4 P SP can't be beat.
I am surprised, however, that you don't like Abbaboro. It is one of my Moema favorites. I never had a really bad session there and although all my sessions were not 4th of July, I have had a number of memorable ones at Abboboro. So, I can't think of a better place to go for early afternoon fun at a very reasonable price. I seem to like Abboboro girls. Ha Ha.
Abbobora seem to work for lot of men. Unfortunately I am not one of them. I guess I am not picking right girls. Also don't like dealing with one of the mamasan's scummy attitude (she only does it for tourists) when you don't pick a girl. Prime and Maruna worked for me much better and their management is very nice whether you pick a girl or not.
But recently I started checking out a few "upscale" clinicas. I posted about that a few weeks ago or a month ago. Anyway, what I found was that with a little luck and skill in choosing the right girl, it was possible to have great sex with a model quality, Scandallo type girl in the afternoon for 750 BR. Is this a good price? I think it depends on how good one is at spotting winners from photoshopped pics on a small computer screen. I was "lucky" 50% of the time and those sessions were worth every penny. The only upscale clinica I tried was Lotus Lounge. Sounds like you have an eye for spotting good ones from all the photoshopped pictures. Good for you. I am not a fan of tablet lineup so I tend to avoid these high-end clinicas. I rather take my chances in places where I can see the girls even tough I don't always pick right ones.
Gabbarsing
09-21-23, 23:01
Cool, this helps thank you and SP it is.
I have done both and you can't even compare them. It's completely different leagues. In BA there are no Boates and clinicas. There's even not a great outcall scene imo. I was able to find two beautiful girls on Seeking Arrangements and had an amazing time. But others swear the BA girls on Seeking are stuck up. Active discussion on the Seeking thread on this. But for amazing P4 P SP can't be beat.
Hello there!
We've just finished the edition and upload of six walking tours in Moema neighborhood, the Clinica Nation. A place you may walk during your next Sao Paulo visit, or a zone that brings good memories to you.
- Walking to clinica Tangara.
- Walking to clinica Red.
- Walking to clinica Prime.
- Walking to clinica Dos Carinas.
- Walking to clinica Miruna.
- Walking to clinica Abbobora.
Also a first photo story of illusion of passion based on a true story that started in a bar not so many times mentioned on the Sao Paulo forum: Zeus Bar.
Where? You just need to follow the Walking tour link on the side bars of the forum!
Note: Videos were recorded in public areas only.
JohnJones22
09-22-23, 05:40
OK. So, the Palms was the only high end clinica that I visited more than once during my last trip. KKK. Of my 4 Palm girls, 2 were outstanding and I mean smokin hot, great in bed, and definitely worth the money (400 br to the house / 350 br to the girl) and 2 were not. The problem, as I see it, with all of these high end clinicas is in the selection process; the photoshopped photo lineup shown on a tiny laptop. I don't know why they do it. My guess is it is to keep the girl's identity under wraps as much as possible. Anyway, I had a great time twice at the Palms with boate quality tier 1 girls when the girl I selected turned out to be better looking than her photos. That's 50% of the time I knocked the ball out of the park at the Palms! The other times that I went there and to the other 2 high end clinicas mentioned above, I received friendly, good service, but felt I had overpaid especially compared to what I was getting for around half the money at Abboboro and Prime.
But I really liked those 2 Palm girls, KKK, and so I will accept the risks involved in the selection process and I will go back for more in December.Hey bud, kinda late but need to ask! When you went to the palms, did they show you the exact same pics as they have on their website (faces only) or were you able to see full body pics? I'm picky as hell as well and I'd hate being unhappy when I finally see the girl in person. Think there would've been any way to switch her if you didn't like her? Or even to tell the manager "I can't decide between these 2 girls, can I see them in person first?
https://www.thepalms.com.br/single-project
Hello there!
We've just finished the edition and upload of six walking tours in Moema neighborhood, the Clinica Nation. A place you may walk during your next Sao Paulo visit, or a zone that brings good memories to you.
- Walking to clinica Tangara.
- Walking to clinica Red.
- Walking to clinica Prime.
- Walking to clinica Dos Carinas.
- Walking to clinica Miruna.
- Walking to clinica Abbobora.
Also a first photo story of illusion of passion based on a true story that started in a bar not so many times mentioned on the Sao Paulo forum: Zeus Bar.
Where? You just need to follow the Walking tour link on the side bars of the forum!
Note: Videos were recorded in public areas only.Nice HiddenEye. What's the URL for your website? I can't the advertisement on the site.
DonCarlos1234
09-22-23, 10:26
Hey bud, kinda late but need to ask! When you went to the palms, did they show you the exact same pics as they have on their website (faces only) or were you able to see full body pics? I'm picky as hell as well and I'd hate being unhappy when I finally see the girl in person. Think there would've been any way to switch her if you didn't like her? Or even to tell the manager "I can't decide between these 2 girls, can I see them in person first?
https://www.thepalms.com.br/single-projectYeah, those are real girls with great lighting, very good makeup and some Photoshop. If you go there in person they have an English speaking manager (perfect English) who if he likes you will give you excellent advice. And yes they have a lot more photos of the same girls in different poses and outfits. If they did a line up it would take a lot of time and probably they would need to raise your price. Even looking at the tablet you can get lost. LOL One of the top clinics I visited. The owner is from England.
I also met their photographer. He was doing sessions for Lotus Lounge girls when I was there and works for some of the other top clinics.
Axel Heyst
09-22-23, 14:06
When you went to the palms, did they show you the exact same pics as they have on their website (faces only) or were you able to see full body pics? I'm picky as hell as well and I'd hate being unhappy when I finally see the girl in person. Think there would've been any way to switch her if you didn't like her? Or even to tell the manager "I can't decide between these 2 girls, can I see them in person first?
https://www.thepalms.com.br/single-projectUpon arrival the receptionist will show prospective customers selected pics of the available girls which most definitely include facial and body shots together. These photos are similar in quality to the ones posted on their website and sent in their emails to customers. There is no bait and switch although a girl can look different in reality. I am into slim, natural, pretty girls and I am not into silly cones or butt enhancements, so I have to look very carefully at the photos in order to make a calculated guess. On my 1st visit I choose a Japanese Brazilian girl and that was an error. KKK. She was the same girl as in her photos and although she did not have an once of fat on her well-toned body, and her small tits were totally natural; her body was too "athletic" to suit my tastes and I never would have chosen her if I had seen her in person first.
So, I knew I made a mistake the minute she walked into my room, but I could not think of a polite way out. She was very friendly and sweet, so I decided to take one for the team even though I am well aware that I could have insisted on a change of girl. So, the session started out slow due to my lack of desire, but eventually she turned me on, and everything turned out pretty good.
The next time I went to Palms I paid more attention to inconsistencies in the photos looking for clues indicating a slender / natural body type. As a result of my efforts, my 2nd and 3rd Palms girls did not disappoint. They were more or less perfect. KKK. And in fact, I think they were both better looking in person than their photos indicated. The service was outstanding with these two as well, so I asked them for their WhatsApp which they both happily gave me.
Then my 4th Palms girl was a near miss. She was drop dead gorgeous in her photos with a near perfect, natural body, but in person she was a pretty girl next door type with a tight, very attractive, natural body. The session was pretty good, and the girl performed well, but you know, it was not nearly as good as my 2 previous sessions. I consider this girl a possible repeat thanks to her great body, demure personality and passion, but I doubt I will ever get around to her again. She was definitely better looking than average clinica girls, but not up to Scandallo tier 1 quality IMHO.
I like your idea of asking the manager to see a specific girl or girls that interest you before making a selection. I doubt it will work, but it never hurts to ask. It is probably more productive to tell the manager or receptionist what you like, for example, natural tits, and let them indicate which girls have that quality. They want you to be happy, so you keep coming back.
In addition, the customer has the right to cancel a session or request a change of girl if the girl that walks into his room is not acceptable to him. But you better make your mind up quick before anything happens and I would not make a habit of rejecting girls in the room at any particular establishment, or you will earn a bad reputation at that establishment. It is better to stop going to a particular "high end" clinica if this sort of thing (selection disappointment) happens too often.
Axel Heyst
09-22-23, 14:29
Yeah, those are real girls with great lighting, very good makeup and some Photoshop. If you go there in person they have an English speaking manager (perfect English) who if he likes you will give you excellent advice. <snip> If they did a line up it would take a lot of time and probably they would need to raise your price. Even looking at the tablet you can get lost. LOL One of the top clinics I visited. My quess the reason clinicas like the Palms do not do LIVE lineups is to eliminate jealousies that might arise among the girls over repeat clients. With no lineups the girls have no idea what is going on or who is in the place leaving the customers to freely choose whoever they want without any perceived pressure or repercussions from his favorite repeat girls.
I'm an advertiser but I must follow forum rules. I'm not allowed to share the direct link in the post.
The banner on the side is: Sao Paulo Club Walking Tours.
I'll send the URL over private messages to you and those interested.
Thanks!
Nice HiddenEye. What's the URL for your website? I can't the advertisement on the site.
My quess the reason clinicas like the Palms do not do LIVE lineups is to eliminate jealousies that might arise among the girls over repeat clients. With no lineups the girls have no idea what is going on or who is in the place leaving the customers to freely choose whoever they want without any perceived pressure or repercussions from his favorite repeat girls.Regardless of live or choosing from a tablet, the thing I hate about choosing from a lineup is that you can't talk to the girl first to see if there's any chemistry number 1. And then number 2, and maybe even more importantly, you have to choose before you know if the girl offers the services you want. It's just not the most customer-friendly approach, and I don't like it. I will always prefer those establishments where I can mix and mingle with the girls first before choosing rather than picking from a "cold" lineup.
I'm an advertiser but I must follow forum rules. I'm not allowed to share the direct link in the post.
The banner on the side is: Sao Paulo Club Walking Tours.
I'll send the URL over private messages to you and those interested.
Thanks!What's the difference from looking at Google street view?
JohnJones22
09-22-23, 18:33
Upon arrival the receptionist will show prospective customers selected pics of the available girls which most definitely include facial and body shots together. These photos are similar in quality to the ones posted on their website and sent in their emails to customers. There is no bait and switch although a girl can look different in reality. I am into slim, natural, pretty girls and I am not into silly cones or butt enhancements, so I have to look very carefully at the photos in order to make a calculated guess. On my 1st visit I choose a Japanese Brazilian girl and that was an error. KKK. She was the same girl as in her photos and although she did not have an once of fat on her well-toned body, and her small tits were totally natural; her body was too "athletic" to suit my tastes and I never would have chosen her if I had seen her in person first.Thanks for your reply. My type is mostly a pretty face + big fat ass. Did it seem most of them had huge asses?
My quess the reason clinicas like the Palms do not do LIVE lineups is to eliminate jealousies that might arise among the girls over repeat clients. With no lineups the girls have no idea what is going on or who is in the place leaving the customers to freely choose whoever they want without any perceived pressure or repercussions from his favorite repeat girls.You think so? My guess is it's simply a way to make more money. Think about it, if you see the lineup in person and aren't interested in anyone, you leave (I would do that). If you don't see the lineup, you're essentially "tricked" into picking the best one off of photoshopped pics. A lot of guys end up banging the girl anyway, even if they're not THAT into her when she shows up in the room. You did it, I did it, most of us already did it. Also, those girls are not "seperate" when they're behind the scenes, they're probably all in one room on their phones / talking to each other.
The girls know everything that is going on in the places with or without lineups. They monitor the public areas via the cameras so they can avoid customers for various reasons including that they don't want to be surprised by relatives or acquaintances who aren't aware of their profession.
My quess the reason clinicas like the Palms do not do LIVE lineups is to eliminate jealousies that might arise among the girls over repeat clients. With no lineups the girls have no idea what is going on or who is in the place leaving the customers to freely choose whoever they want without any perceived pressure or repercussions from his favorite repeat girls.
I know BBBJ is usually included in the clinicas, does that include CIM as well?
Regardless of live or choosing from a tablet, the thing I hate about choosing from a lineup is that you can't talk to the girl first to see if there's any chemistry number 1. And then number 2, and maybe even more importantly, you have to choose before you know if the girl offers the services you want. ...You can talk to the girl or ask the girl to come out after line up to talk to her. I think choosing from a tablet is a little like internet shopping.
... I will always prefer those establishments where I can mix and mingle with the girls first before choosing rather than picking from a "cold" lineup.That is more common in Tangara for locals.
Axel Heyst
09-22-23, 22:40
Regardless of live or choosing from a tablet, the thing I hate about choosing from a lineup is that you can't talk to the girl first to see if there's any chemistry number 1. And then number 2, and maybe even more importantly, you have to choose before you know if the girl offers the services you want. It's just not the most customer-friendly approach, and I don't like it. I will always prefer those establishments where I can mix and mingle with the girls first before choosing rather than picking from a "cold" lineup.You make very good point. I generally prefer Boates, Termas, Go Go's, Nightclub's and pick up bars over clinicas, prives, and Thai oily massage parlors for the very reasons you point out. Right or wrong, I believe that spending a little time flirting and getting to know a working girl before deciding to take her somewhere improves the overall quality of the session. A lot of guys think that is hooey. But I also really enjoy the flirting and drinking part, so yeah, why would I change something if I like it and it works really well?
Because, I also enjoy an occasional afternoon romp in one of my favorite clinicas with friendly girls that I probably would not see anywhere else. It is a different experience, more utilitarian, yes, but it can still be very good and even a GFE too. Some of these Clinca girls are truly amazing in this respect.
Anyway, the entire set up at a clinica is totally different from that of a boate. The girls work for the house. They are not independent contractors. There is no time or place for flirting and getting to know a girl in these kinds of venues, but places like Abboboro and Prime survive and make money on their reputations for having reasonably attractive girls, doing what they are supposed to do, satisfying customers, at a reasonable price. And because there is an implied level of service it boils down to, you are going to have a good time here with one of our girls. This different relationship between the clinica and it's employees replaces the need for the punter to establish a vibe with a girl before hand or even discuss prices and kinds of servce.
And let's face it, another key incentive to spend some afternoon time in Moema is that it ain't a bad thing to save a few bucks once in a while either. KKK. I have done a couple of SP trips in the past where I spent all my recreational time in the boates or with boate girls. It is a good way to go, I had a lot of fun, and spent a hell of a lot of money doing it, but I have also found that a little variety in the afternoon clincas breaks up my time and makes my trip even better. It is good to do both venues.
Hi Sperto, that's a wonderful question.
They are videos where you can see how the streets really look like (cars, bikes, buses running, garbage trucks, street vendors or people who look like, etc) and how it sounds like (loud airplanes at certain points). Google Street view gives you a muted frozen good approach yes. But video killed the radio stars, as the 80's song says.
And for those who want to see the streets that have been walked, it can be a nostalgic experience.
And most important, all our videos include chat time so you can ask specific questions to us, online, not only about clubs and clinicas also transportation, meals, local politics a seasoned traveler in Brazil can answer in four languages.
What's the difference from looking at Google street view?
Axel Heyst
09-22-23, 23:15
Thanks for your reply. My type is mostly a pretty face + big fat ass. Did it seem most of them had huge asses?
You think so? My guess is it's simply a way to make more money. Think about it, if you see the lineup in person and aren't interested in anyone, you leave (I would do that). If you don't see the lineup, you're essentially "tricked" into picking the best one off of photoshopped pics. A lot of guys end up banging the girl anyway, even if they're not THAT into her when she shows up in the room. You did it, I did it, most of us already did it. Also, those girls are not "seperate" when they're behind the scenes, they're probably all in one room on their phones / talking to each other.I don't know about most of them having "huge" asses, KKK, but girls with pretty faces, large breasts, and large butts are a well-represented type in the Palms. I think you will find plenty of girls there in your target group to choose from.
Your theory that the house earns a net profit from its use of digital photos because some guys are more reluctant to walk after a girl enters his room, does not consider all the guys who are turned off by digital photo selection in the first place and do not go to these kinds of clinicas. Plus, there are a lot of guys who would walk if the girl was a letdown. So, I am not convinced this is a long-term money making strategy. We shall see.
Hi Sperto, that's a wonderful question.
They are videos where you can see how the streets really look like (cars, bikes, buses running, garbage trucks, street vendors or people who look like, etc) and how it sounds like (loud airplanes at certain points). Google Street view gives you a muted frozen good approach yes. But video killed the radio stars, as the 80's song says.No matter if I go to a hotel, restaurant, shop or puteiro I don't care about how the street look like. Many guys would go by taxi or Uber, others would go by metro or buses. When visiting a puteiro isn't like you enter a favela, you're just going to a specific address. Using Google Maps it's impossible to miss. If you really wants to attract clients you propably should have some videos from the inside of the puteiros. If not the girls at least the reception, lounge area and the rooms.
Wow what a whirlwind trip. Unfortunately I do not have any new girls to tell you about. I had dates (and it felt more like dates) with three girls that I met on previous trips. One from Photoacompanhantes, One from Casaro, and one from a clinic. All came to my hotel and stayed all night and most of the next day with me.
Part of the reason I am reporting this is to let everyone know that you can strike gold in many different ways. Sure there are some bait and switch on photo but I did two nights with my previously met one from there. She is not advertising now so I will not offer her. She was so excited to see me. She initiated love making 3 times the first night and twice the next day. I would not have believed I could do that! I met the Casaro one on New Years night this year. We met at the club, drank one drink and I told her I wanted her to come to my hotel. She said she was hungry and that she would buy her own sandwich. After I bought her out of the club she actually did buy her own sandwich and a soda for me. I was very impressed! Then she stayed all night even though the agreement was for 1 1/2 hours at the hotel. She was obviously excited to see me again and went out of her way to come to me and make my night wonderful. She revealed to me that the night we met was only her 4th night in SP. The one from the clinic appears to truly think she is in love with me. LOL but she does view me as a money tree.
I hope to be able to go for Christmas and New Years again this year. I will make a special point to visit the clubs and Clinics and give reports.
I met with two other ISGers and we had a wonderful sushi lunch. Hopefully we will be able to meet again.
You can hang out and "flirt" with the girls as long as you want in the flagship Vila Mariana clinicas Tangara and Yankin, among others. You don't get the mood lighting, music, and furnishings of the boates but in the end if the priority is sex well, you know where I'm going with this.
You make very good point. I generally prefer Boates, Termas, Go Go's, Nightclub's and pick up bars over clinicas, prives, and Thai oily massage parlors for the very reasons you point out. Right or wrong, I believe that spending a little time flirting and getting to know a working girl before deciding to take her somewhere improves the overall quality of the session. A lot of guys think that is hooey. But I also really enjoy the flirting and drinking part, so yeah, why would I change something if I like it and it works really well?
Because, I also enjoy an occasional afternoon romp in one of my favorite clinicas with friendly girls that I probably would not see anywhere else. It is a different experience, more utilitarian, yes, but it can still be very good and even a GFE too. Some of these Clinca girls are truly amazing in this respect.
Anyway, the entire set up at a clinica is totally different from that of a boate. The girls work for the house. They are not independent contractors. There is no time or place for flirting and getting to know a girl in these kinds of venues, but places like Abboboro and Prime survive and make money on their reputations for having reasonably attractive girls, doing what they are supposed to do, satisfying customers, at a reasonable price. And because there is an implied level of service it boils down to, you are going to have a good time here with one of our girls. This different relationship between the clinica and it's employees replaces the need for the punter to establish a vibe with a girl before hand or even discuss prices and kinds of servce.
And let's face it, another key incentive to spend some afternoon time in Moema is that it ain't a bad thing to save a few bucks once in a while either. KKK. I have done a couple of SP trips in the past where I spent all my recreational time in the boates or with boate girls. It is a good way to go, I had a lot of fun, and spent a hell of a lot of money doing it, but I have also found that a little variety in the afternoon clincas breaks up my time and makes my trip even better. It is good to do both venues.
Steve 9696
09-23-23, 17:25
You make very good point. I generally prefer Boates, Termas, Go Go's, Nightclub's and pick up bars over clinicas, prives, and Thai oily massage parlors for the very reasons you point out. Right or wrong, I believe that spending a little time flirting and getting to know a working girl before deciding to take her somewhere improves the overall quality of the session. A lot of guys think that is hooey. But I also really enjoy the flirting and drinking part, so yeah, why would I change something if I like it and it works really well?
Because, I also enjoy an occasional afternoon romp in one of my favorite clinicas with friendly girls that I probably would not see anywhere else. It is a different experience, more utilitarian, yes, but it can still be very good and even a GFE too. Some of these Clinca girls are truly amazing in this respect.
Anyway, the entire set up at a clinica is totally different from that of a boate. The girls work for the house. They are not independent contractors. There is no time or place for flirting and getting to know a girl in these kinds of venues, but places like Abboboro and Prime survive and make money on their reputations for having reasonably attractive girls, doing what they are supposed to do, satisfying customers, at a reasonable price. And because there is an implied level of service it boils down to, you are going to have a good time here with one of our girls. This different relationship between the clinica and it's employees replaces the need for the punter to establish a vibe with a girl before hand or even discuss prices and kinds of servce.
And let's face it, another key incentive to spend some afternoon time in Moema is that it ain't a bad thing to save a few bucks once in a while either. KKK. I have done a couple of SP trips in the past where I spent all my recreational time in the boates or with boate girls. It is a good way to go, I had a lot of fun, and spent a hell of a lot of money doing it, but I have also found that a little variety in the afternoon clincas breaks up my time and makes my trip even better. It is good to do both venues.Of course we are all different but I am with Axel on this. I loooove the flirt and date part and affection (beyond sex). So there is this spectrum. Least interaction is a point and click Clinica girl. And most interaction is Seeking Arrangement type date where you have dinner and drinks first. Maybe even dancing. And sometimes they spend the night. Once you have a rapport with a girl you can spend a lot of time together that includes but is not limited to sex. In London last week spent two full days with a fave girl including 5 hours at the club. This is true GFE and some guys like me love it and others could care less.
Between the clinicas and Seeking lie the Boates and to a lesser extent the termas in Rio. You spend some time with a girl. Maybe even make out or dance for 20 minutes or more (my first Scandallo girl we danced and made out for two hours but that's prob exceptional).
Of course you can also convert a girl to a more "date" format if she likes you and is willing. More than a few times I've moved an agency escort off the books and gone on dates and overnights. Same thing with Clinica and Boate girls.
Final note is while Seeking is best for cities that don't have an active scene like SP you can still score some amazing girls. I had a 9. 5 in Rio on a Sunday (everthing closed) for a three hour date for R500. She was amazing. So def keep your options open.
I have done both and you can't even compare them. It's completely different leagues. In BA there are no Boates and clinicas. There's even not a great outcall scene imo. I was able to find two beautiful girls on Seeking Arrangements and had an amazing time. But others swear the BA girls on Seeking are stuck up. Active discussion on the Seeking thread on this. But for amazing P4 P SP can't be beat.Very true that SP is amazing for P4 P, and way better than BA in that regard IMO.
However, a boate is open in BA now, actually has been open for a while.
Delirios, in Recoleta, near where the famous bar Newport used to be.
I've had luck recently in BA with an incall / outcall site an Argentine guy showed me.
Met a couple very sweet girls from Paraguay.
Again, I would choose SP any time over BA for P4 P, but some fun can be had in BA.
I'll probably write a report soon in the BA site about the club Delirios.
A great number of Clinicas are located right in front of the Congonhas Airport Track.
But why? Is it because domestic travelers making time in between flights? Or real state and loud sound of airplanes landing?
What is your guess?
The truth is you can walk 7 of them in a one full day walking tour.
I like the one behind the Burger King. The name escapes me now. There are indeed quite a few of them lined up as are the typical cabanas and no tell motels you find near every airport in Latin America.
A great number of Clinicas are located right in front of the Congonhas Airport Track.
But why? Is it because domestic travelers making time in between flights? Or real state and loud sound of airplanes landing?
What is your guess?
The truth is you can walk 7 of them in a one full day walking tour.
I like the one behind the Burger King. The name escapes me now. There are indeed quite a few of them lined up as are the typical cabanas and no tell motels you find near every airport in Latin America.Enjoy Spa I guess you mean.
My guess is it is a combination of the fairly central location and affordable rents because the low flying aircraft make it less desirable for residential use.
A great number of Clinicas are located right in front of the Congonhas Airport Track.
But why? Is it because domestic travelers making time in between flights? Or real state and loud sound of airplanes landing?
What is your guess?
The truth is you can walk 7 of them in a one full day walking tour.
Yes, that's the one. It's my late afternoon favorite in Moema. I've had a bit of good luck there.
Enjoy Spa I guess you mean.
Or maybe is to cover the orgasm screams when planes are landing! Hahahahahahaha.
My guess is it is a combination of the fairly central location and affordable rents because the low flying aircraft make it less desirable for residential use.
DonCarlos1234
09-27-23, 12:38
After talking to friends and reading profusely. Asking questions. I thought I was ready. But No where near! LOL.
Arrived far too early at GRU airport. No Uber cars or taxis available. Took a "black car" $175 brl. 1 HR 20 min ride near Casaro dowtown. Also claimed my card did not process. Another $40 usd stolen. Whatever – (fix later). Was too tired to deal. Airbnb check in took 30 minutes. Fortunately Google Fi worked to access my info and prove I had a reservation. JET LAG was more than I planned for. Coming from Vegas took 17 hours. I had to adjust my sleep patterns. Probably 12 hour difference as we sleep till Noon here. LOL.
The Airbnb was in a good location except I thought I had caught a cold. It turned out that the room, the bed sheets, were all heavily scented washed with chemicals and fabric softener. Had an allergic reaction feeling sick for 3 days staying there. Did not go to Casaro which was my plan. I elt drained. Ahh but not so much that the next day.
2nd Day another long Uber ride to Lushness Spa Analia Franco. To see Milaide. Rejected her when she arrived. Had gained 20 lbs. Took another named Julia. Her Photos not as good but in person well worth it. She says, "shall we make a mess?" and pours oil all over her body. It was a wonderful sight and a terrific experience rubbing, slathering her body on mine. She gave me her number although I didn't ask. Apparently I have had a sheltered life, missing out in Colombia, Mexico and the USA?
3rd day. I made it to Lotus Spa in Moma. I guess it was luck, fate or just that Brazil is amazing! It was the best blow job and close to the best sex of my life! So of course, I asked if she was interested in seeing Rio with me. She said yes but I only speak Portuguese. (Google translate works wonders) I said don't worry we will get you a sun hat (sombrero) a guitar and you can be naked the whole trip. Singing, we laughed. She said but I do have skills! (an understatement) She sang to me in Portuguese, naked. I have no idea what were the words but she sang well! And looked even better. Now I start to think, is this the way the women are here in Brazil? God bless this country. We exchanged numbers.
Off to Rio. Was in contact with 2 ISG guys but still adjusting to Jet Lag and feeling sick I never saw either. Sorry guys. I determined that Sao Paulo was going to require much more time investigating Clinics (this is actually part business, really it is) so I cut my trip to Rio down to only 5 days. I also thought let me take a vacy in Rio, avoid the girls and do lots of touristy things. I was sad that Neon would have to wait for my return and didn't call her.
Rio day 1 - Stayed at Premier Copacabana Hotel. 3 blocks from the ocean. Was kind of 50's classic design, nice place, ugly rooms, good service, multiple languages and great breakfast, hard beds but no allergies so I WAS HAPPY. I am sure I could have brought in guests but I did not care. Another minor problem, I cracked a front tooth loose. Dental wax for a temporary. Was afraid to smile. Got over it but damn. I figured Rio was for sightseeing anyway, not girls. The ocean air was exhilarating especially after Sao Paulo's Airbnb.
Day 2 Rio – went to Barra de Tijuca, Classico Beach Club and wandered the beach. It was a holiday so lots of people (too many) but not near as many as back in Copacabana En route back passed the Lake of Rio. Stopped in Centro at Selina Hostel ad back to the hotel.
Day 3 Rio Took Harbor Bay cruise, nice photo options. Beautiful coastline! Blurry but I think this was the night I went to Monte Carlo. 21 girls all ugly except one. Would not do BBBJ (I didn't care) she was very good looking. 8+ Gave me her number. After Sao Paulo this was boring. If she was the first girl I met, I would have been very happy. Now getting slightly spoiled in Brazil. But Rio was not going to be about sex anyway, Ha.
Day 4 – Sugar Loaf cable car. I am an artist / photographer and I appreciate beauty in all its forms. . I sat overlooking Rio for 2 hours. WOW. Great photos will last a lifetime.
Day 5 – maybe I lost a day? Went on their huge merry go round. View of downtown, favelllas and Christ the Redeemer. I took 25 Ubers in 6 days (so far) trying to see / do as much as I could.
Day 6 – flight back to Sao Paulo to a new / better Airbnb overlooking the river and skyline. I almost cried looking back over Rio. They put me in the front row seat by the window. I could have stayed there a lifetime (even longer with a travel companion) Nice flight attendant!
Next 6 days in Sao Paulo – another time consuming check in at Airbnb. Inside the view was better than expected. Huge TV, (I never watch TV, LOL) dysfunctional layout except the desk / balcony is glass enclosed overlooking most of Sao Paulo. Beautiful. Bed is extremely comfortable. And yes it's girl friendly – just never used that feature. I went to 6 Clinicas, plus Scnadallo. Went to Lotus a 2nd time and left from there to the airport (2 hours by Uber) during rush hour.
More to come plus photos, just it's 4:30 am in Vegas, time to sleep.
DonCarlos next you go, Milaide is super worth it. I bareback her and it was one of the warmest and wet pussy I had. Top 5 for sure. I would bust in her pussy and lay in it for like 10 min LOL.
2nd Day another long Uber ride to Lushness Spa Analia Franco. To see Milaide. Rejected her when she arrived. Had gained 20 lbs. Took another named Julia. Her Photos not as good but in person well worth it. She says, "shall we make a mess?" and pours oil all over her body. It was a wonderful sight and a terrific experience rubbing, slathering her body on mine. She gave me her number although I didn't ask. Apparently I have had a sheltered life, missing out in Colombia, Mexico and the USA?.
Alex. Which of the upscale clinicas are you referring too? That is worth the effort to check out. Thanks.
But recently I started checking out a few "upscale" clinicas. I posted about that a few weeks ago or a month ago. Anyway, what I found was that with a little luck and skill in choosing the right girl, it was possible to have great sex with a model quality, Scandallo type girl in the afternoon for 750 BR. Is this a good price? I think it depends on how good one is at spotting winners from photoshopped pics on a small computer screen. I was "lucky" 50% of the time and those sessions were worth every penny. Great girls in bed! Beautiful to look at, and I don't throw that term around very often. So, I think this is another possible venue to consider if you are bored with the Moema clinicas or if you are out to shag a tier 1 in the afternoon. And once you have met a tier 1 in the afternoon and she proved herself to be repeat worthy; it is easy to exchange WhatsApp numbers for future rendezvous.
Sep 2 - 9.
Got to SP after spending a week in Rio. I always stayed in Moema which is very convenient for visiting clinicas. For a change I stayed in an Airbnb in Jardim Paulista. Nice and safe area to stay, close to Casarao but you have to take Uber to visit Moema clinicas which is not that convenient. I plan to stay in Moema in future even tough airplane noise is a issue but walkable to many clinicas.
Visited 3 clinicas and 2 boetes.
Clinicas:
Prime:
I always had good luck at this clinica and it is no different this time except one small incident.
On Sep 3 I went there and picked Karina, a 25 yo spinner. I tried to star the activities leaning over to kiss her. She said she doesn't kiss. I was disappointed but I was going to continue the session but she said she would kiss if I pay 50 reals. That pissed me off. Its not about the money which is just 10 bucks but I wondered what if she charges for other activities that are part of standard service. I asked if she would be ok if I end the session so I could pick another girl. She said ok, I left the room and told the mamasan about what happened and that I would pay whatever is owed. She didn't take any money. I never saw Karina on the roster that whole week I was there.
Has anyone encountered similar situation? Should I have continued the session with or without paying the extra?
I saw Andressa, a 25 yo blond, lived in USA and speaks like an American. I had a good time.
I also saw my favorite Prime blonde girl Karen (pronounced kary. She is in her 30's now). This is probably 5 or 6th time. I saw her.
Maruna:
Visited couple of time, sessioned once with Jazzy, a 21 yo pale skinned and a little bit chubby girl. Nice set of natural boobs, tight pussy and tiny little pink asshole (I couldn't convince her to do anal even tough I offered extra). I enjoyed the session.
Abbobora:
Most of my visits are below average except of 1 or 2 visits. I chose Julia, a 20 yo girl. It was a bad choice because of her saggy tits, unenthusiastic blowjob and the rest wasn't that good either. I plan to avoid visiting this clinica and stay clear of the scummy manasan's pressure tactics.
Scandallo:
Visited once on Tuesday (Sep 5th). Entered the club just before 7 pm. Paid 300 reals entrance which is all consumable. The garden area back of the building was open and mostly full when I got there. I was surprised to see lot of girls and man that early. I think there were more than 150 girls by 10 pm and that is the most I have seen for a Tuesday. I ate some food, enjoyed couple of drinks, talked to few girls and left without sessioning.
Casarao:
Visited 5 of the 7 days I was in SP. Club was packed during every one of my visits with lots of good looking girls to pick. Sampled 8 young girls, none of them were amazing but they all performed well. Here are the ones I remember:
Julia a 19 yo cute girl with braces.
Precilla a 23 yo blonde.
Bia a 20 yo.
Thalia a 23 yo 170 cm tall very cute girl.
Camily a 19 yo 175 cm tall pretty girl (German parents).
Marcela a 20 yo cute girl.
DonCarlos1234
09-28-23, 04:32
On my return to Sao, Wednesday. I planned to visit all high end clinicas. First I went to visit an online Club Model girl (was a bad experience. Nothing like the photos, FAT yuk. Lived downtown in tweaker / high crime neighborhood) I was worried I would not make it out alive. The only dangerous place I passed through. Actually locked inside triple locked security doors at the building with hookers, druggies, transistors, all that crap. Finally someone let me out and an Uber rescued me and I was off to Scandallo to change the vibe!
Scandallo, I already posted a little last week. They only charged me 100 brl to enter (Met 3 girls who sat at the table with me. (gin and tonics) grab ass and watched them (pic attached) kissing each other. This is the way it should be. LOL but I was still sober so I chased them off. Got their phone numbers. Enjoyed the vibe, music and constant female traffic walking by. Then I saw my choice. Anna lived in Europe, mostly Germany and Brazil. Sexy, Expensive and wants more. Go figure. (pics attached) She spoke perfect English, (+ 4 other languages) had incredible body, face and artistic tattoos. Heaven on earth! I tried to resist. After 30 minutes we went upstairs. That was an incredible experience and the room was also huge and very nice. Dual showers. She was a pro international traveler. OMG the memories. All these girls wanted to visit my Airbnb. But I had more things to do. They said let's just have diner then. And I told them If I sit across from you all at dinner we will end up in bed at my place. They laughed but no pressure. Also spoke English.
So the next day was exhausted, recuperating. Till it was too late for clinicas. Following day I went to Lushness in Moma (their 2nd location). This girl surprisingly spoke perfect English was studying to be a nutritionist, Fucking gorgeous. Somehow we got more time (by accident) and ended up talking a lot about the club, my art and (again) I asked if she would like to take a trip to Buzios later in December. She was honest and only said maybe, gave me her number. See her in Sao Paulo, no problem.
Over the next few days that were left. I visited Oro Spa. They have a English speaking manger who went over the photos with me and gave his insights about the girls. Pic attached. (snuck this one) she looked similar to a girl I saw at a different place. Turns out the photographer shoots these girls with the same furniture and yes similar poses. I met him (at Lotus) and we will be meeting next trip.
Visited The Palms and Lotus again. A manger friend of the owner at Palms was interested in my art and thought I should talk to the owner who is from England. (not enough time this trip) All these places tell you about the massage options and I just laugh and say, "I did not travel 10,000 miles to get a massage. I am looking for intimacy" They do not feel like meet markets. They all charge 750 brl. For full service (very cute girls, some were terrific to be with) it's worth it. I did not tip. All but one spoke either good English or enough we didn't use the translator much. The last girl Violeta had traveled all over Colombia and Mexico. And we had fun comparing our experiences. Recent scars from breast surgery but her face, wow.
IMHO there is not much for sightseeing / tourism in Sao unless you count restaurants. Rio beats Sao hands down. Taking some trips with girls would make it even more fun. I could have but I needed at least 3 weeks. This trip was just an exploration. Photos you can find on their websites so no undisclosed pix here.
Also I did not have enough time to compile experiences and meetings at all the places I wanted to go. I think I took about 35 uber trips. Sao Paulo is NOT a small town (pic attached from my Airbnb, misc girls and a little of Rio) there is no limit to the beauty you will find. I'll be back.
DonCarlos1234
09-28-23, 05:09
Sep 2 - 9.
Got to SP after spending a week in Rio. I always stayed in Moema which is very convenient for visiting clinicas. For a change I stayed in an Airbnb in Jardim Paulista. Nice and safe area to stay, close to Casarao but you have to take Uber to visit Moema clinicas which is not that convenient. I plan to stay in Moema in future even tough airplane noise is a issue but walkable to many clinicas.
Visited 3 clinicas and 2 boetes.
Clinicas:
Prime:
I always had good luck at this clinica and it is no different this time except one small incident.
On Sep 3 I went there and picked Karina, a 25 yo spinner. I tried to star the activities leaning over to kiss her. She said she doesn't kiss. I was disappointed but I was going to continue the session but she said she would kiss if I pay 50 reals. That pissed me off. Its not about the money which is just 10 bucks but I wondered what if she charges for other activities that are part of standard service. I asked if she would be ok if I end the session so I could pick another girl. She said ok, I left the room and told the mamasan about what happened and that I would pay whatever is owed. She didn't take any money. I never saw Karina on the roster that whole week I was there.
Has anyone encountered similar situation? Should I have continued the session with or without paying the extra?
I saw Andressa, a 25 yo blond, lived in USA and speaks like an American. I had a good time.
I also saw my favorite Prime blonde girl Karen (pronounced kary. She is in her 30's now). This is probably 5 or 6th time. I saw her.
Maruna:
Visited couple of time, sessioned once with Jazzy, a 21 yo pale skinned and a little bit chubby girl. Nice set of natural boobs, tight pussy and tiny little pink asshole (I couldn't convince her to do anal even tough I offered extra). I enjoyed the session.
Abbobora:
Most of my visits are below average except of 1 or 2 visits. I chose Julia, a 20 yo girl. It was a bad choice because of her saggy tits, unenthusiastic blowjob and the rest wasn't that good either. I plan to avoid visiting this clinica and stay clear of the scummy manasan's pressure tactics.
Scandallo:
Visited once on Tuesday (Sep 5th). Entered the club just before 7 pm. Paid 300 reals entrance which is all consumable. The garden area back of the building was open and mostly full when I got there. I was surprised to see lot of girls and man that early. I think there were more than 150 girls by 10 pm and that is the most I have seen for a Tuesday. I ate some food, enjoyed couple of drinks, talked to few girls and left without sessioning.
Casarao:
Visited 5 of the 7 days I was in SP. Club was packed during every one of my visits with lots of good looking girls to pick. Sampled 8 young girls, none of them were amazing but they all performed well. Here are the ones I remember:
Julia a 19 yo cute girl with braces.
Precilla a 23 yo blonde.
Bia a 20 yo.
Thalia a 23 yo 170 cm tall very cute girl.
Camily a 19 yo 175 cm tall pretty girl (German parents).
Marcela a 20 yo cute girl.The clinicas in Rio seemed either high end like Prism who said you can have a mechanical finish. Yeah right or the low end. Too slutty for me. Sorry I missed you. Airbnb slowed me down. Was sick.
On my return to Sao, Wednesday. I planned to visit all high end clinicas. First I went to visit an online Club Model girl (was a bad experience. Nothing like the photos, FAT yuk. Lived downtown in tweaker / high crime neighborhood) I was worried I would not make it out alive. The only dangerous place I passed through. Actually locked inside triple locked security doors at the building with hookers, druggies, transistors, all that crap. Finally someone let me out and an Uber rescued me and I was off to Scandallo to change the vibe!
Don, I was actually looking forward to your report. It seems like you had been planning this trip for a long time, and had been gathering information, asking a ton of questions on the board. So, I thought you were well prepared and would have an amazing trip. However, the report is a bit disappointing, especially the Rio part. I'm not quite sure why you skipped all the fun with girls in Rio. Yes, Rio is an amazing city and there is a lot of things a tourist can do, but damn, every night you could easily smash a girl or two. How could you skip 4 x4, Solarium, etc? Never used Seeking to go on dates? I actually thought you were a Seeking guy and prefer to go on dates rather than have a quickie at a spa or a brothel. Again, not quite sure why skipped Seeking entirely. Same thing in Sao Paulo, the city has so many nice restaurants to go with a nice company, but for some reason you preferred to stick to daytime clinicas, most of which I haven't even heard of. I'm glad you did Scandallo, but there are other boates to pick girls at. My understanding was part of your initial plan was to bring a girl from SP to Rio, so that you could have a company and do all the touristy stuff together, it sucks the plan didn't work out. Anyways, thanks for the report, I hope next time will be much better!
Kopolau6366
09-28-23, 20:55
Hello, I am currently in Sao Paulo and I would like to visit a clinic where they could give me oral sex and why not more. (if this is possible of course).
I await your advice, thanks.
DonCarlos1234
09-29-23, 00:42
Only took 4 years to figure out. Miamiboy thanks for the instruction on photos. There is more to life then just the girls. Although next time I will have company and go to Buzios etc. With them. thats why I got numbers for the hot ones who spoke English. here's 2 of them. I am not posting some photos on purpose. still having problems but Enjoy.
Only took 4 years to figure out. Miamiboy thanks for the instruction on photos. There is more to life then just the girls. Although next time I will have company and go to Buzios etc. With them. thats why I got numbers for the hot ones who spoke English. here's 2 of them. I am not posting some photos on purpose. still having problems but Enjoy.Good choices. Next trip will be even better. Enjoy!!
Jimmy Boy 99
09-29-23, 03:28
Hello, I am currently in Sao Paulo and I would like to visit a clinic where they could give me oral sex and why not more. (if this is possible of course).
I await your advice, thanks.https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=8 for list of clinicas. Oral and vaginal sex is included in all sessions.
The Critic
09-29-23, 04:24
Only took 4 years to figure out. Miamiboy thanks for the instruction on photos. There is more to life then just the girls. Although next time I will have company and go to Buzios etc. With them. thats why I got numbers for the hot ones who spoke English. here's 2 of them. I am not posting some photos on purpose. still having problems but Enjoy.Third pick is fire! Good series of reports of your SP and Rio experience.
MadMax9336
09-29-23, 05:18
Only took 4 years to figure out. Miamiboy thanks for the instruction on photos. There is more to life then just the girls. Although next time I will have company and go to Buzios etc. With them. thats why I got numbers for the hot ones who spoke English. here's 2 of them. I am not posting some photos on purpose. still having problems but Enjoy.I am going to stay for one night in SP and booked Hilton Sao Pualo Morumbi and your TR spas are bit far from this location and not sure if its worth to visit or not.
We are coming to SP around 6 pm and leaving next day afternoon to Bogota. Hence only option is to visit Scandallo in the night.
May be if there are any Clinica or Massage parlour in this area before checking out.
As GRU seems to be taking more than 1+ hour in uber.
P.S.: you inbox is full I guess. Responded back to you PM but its not deleting unless you clear some of the messages.
Steve 9696
09-29-23, 13:44
There is more to life then just the girls.Um er. You mean like women, ladies, chicas, babes, and garotas? Because yeah. Those also. 😜.
DonCarlos1234
09-30-23, 04:47
Um er. You mean like women, ladies, chicas, babes, and garotas? Because yeah. Those also. 😜.It makes for a nice enhancement. I found a couple girls willing. Time was an issue so I saw Rio 4 days scouting. Great trip and I will be back.
Stinky Squid
10-02-23, 09:19
We know you have tried the 150 but the good one seems to be the exception. Did you try clubmodel to come to the same conclusion? I am going to say it based on my personal experience. The odds will be better if money is not an issue.Back after a long hiatus. (If you click the quote you find this about 89 pages in the past, and it was just a few months!
Just to say that with the PhotoAcompanhantes there really are gems to be found. For 150 reais and hour and 800 pernoite off the bat, and the best GFE you can want. You just have to find her and I know there are many, you just have to find them. The one who clicks with you anyway. I was on a hiatus because I was allowing myself to be foolish trying to pull one of them out there. She was a widow with 4 little kids, who I got to know and liked. So, I figured, I would just risk it. It didn't work out, because she was just so messed up, really dumb, unable to lead herself. Blew it all up with a big lie and betrayal and then evicted herself, through a grandiose rebound tour only to end up on the same miserable job again. I can say I probably spoiled a very good regular provider for me by offering her more and getting too much emotionally involved, so now I have a bitter emotional after taste when she walks out the door after we're done.
I learned even more about the non-glamour of this business. The deal with that girl was that her hour cost 150. That's pretty cheap. And funny enough, that price went down! First time I was with her she was 180. Then suddenly they lowered the price. You can see, there is competition. She has a quota of 5 hours per day that she should meet. A 5 days a week and it's basically 24 hours on the job. Nominally they finish at 1 am and start at 11. But when called out on pernoite or called out even at 1 am, they have to go. One night she tried to call me at 4 am being stuck at some client's place who was done with her but the pimps were already sleeping and she had no 99 taxi credits left. No, I did not help her, I was fucking pissed! You chose your pimps over me, you deal with the bullshit you created for yourself!
Anyway, so on essentially a 24 hour job (nominally 15 hours per day) she makes 4000 per month, guaranteed, that amounts to about 1 minimum salary if you take it by the amount of time wasted in her life. Anything above the quota of 5 hours per day goes to her only. While she is too stupid to understand how much exploitation that is, and she thinks she can make that extra, the reality is that many a day she doesn't even get the 5 hours per day in, and then that has to be made up in the next days. Now think about how much that pimp couple makes off the back of just hat girl: 18000 per month! Of those 18000 she gets 4000, that's 22% while they take away 78%. Nice exploitation if you ask me. But not if you ask her. She apparently prefers this over slacking the days off under my roof.
Anyway, she gave me a real GFE on the first time, with which she lured me like a fish. She gave me her personal number and let me think that this special moment was special and she didn't do that with just anyone. Later on I came to doubt that, when I got wind from the way she talked that she probably treats almost everyone like that. I wonder if it is just her way to do the job. And if I wasn't still emotionally involved and not angry enough about her I would send you all to her on the promise that I get a detailed report on her performance. Since our break-up, I was back with her several times, ultimately it was a satisfaction to not have the burden of taking care of her any more and just fuck her for cheap. Should have done that from the start. But I still got the GFE treatment, and did her bare back except when it was her fertile days.
This girl is a brat that is intellectually challenged. She doesn't manage her life, doesn't take care of herself or just doesn't care. Like that bare back thing, if I didn't keep track of her calendar and wasn't good with that, I would have impregnated her several times. In fact that was why after the initial break-up I didn't completely evict her from my life -- I feared I had impregnated her on the DIA dos namorados. If I was more angry at her, I'd send you all there to try to do her bare back just to see if she really allows pretty much anyone to do that.
But I am not angry enough. I am fucking emotionally still caring about her. Her inability to take care of herself just makes me want to take care of her. But she is such a dangerous brat, she would just do some stupid betrayal shit and lie to me again. The way she kept lying after I had discovered her lies.
Anyway, this wasn't really the point, my point was that in the PhotoAcompanhantes there are a lot of real girls. You just have to find them and then they have to click with you. Once you have one who is good with you, all you need to do is come back. I mean, I could still always come back to her, but I hurt myself every time on the bitter emotional aftertaste.
Now I am in SP again. Fucking cold and caught a cold. I have finally finally met a chick which I was trying to get for years and she had always bailed out. Finally I met her with not enough time, but we hit it off well, to my surprise. I thought why I didn't get her before was because she just doesn't like older dudes. This happens. But no, we hit it off splendid. Really cute girl and so naughty. She too was first announced on PhotoAcompanhantes. Just to stick with the theme.
Giovanna Paes also got her off PhotoAccompanhantes first time, and she was great. I went back to her several times and we did some kinky stuff even filmed some scenes for her OnlyFans thing. Sadly that girl lost both her kidneys to the Coof Fucksine bullshit.
Here is another story about a PhotoAccompanhante girl. Supposedly a fresh 18 year old. Yeah, you know how that goes. Like my ho GF and now ho again was announced as 18 years old, (now 19) but she just turned 25. But then she is tight for being a mother of 4, which all together is why I found her really worth the initial risk. Anyway, this 18 year old I contacted her and came right out the barn with doubt that she was probably a fraud. But then the way she replied was almost guaranteed that she was real. She got upset about me doubting her reality and blocked me. This to me was a sign that she was real. These fraud agencies never do that. They always reply with "estou disponivel" and "sou completinha" no matter what your say or ask. So that one is probably real and if I can get my fucking cold cured still in this shitty weather, then I will do her still before I leave into the hinterlands. Need a break from RJ and SP.
There are a few more good ones I had found on PhotoAccompanhantes. The key is either to get an actual independent or to get a good pimp operation like the ones that my ex-GF prefers to be exploited by. These pimps, while I hate their guts (really just because she chose them over me), they are actually pretty good with the wares. They have a rotation of gems. It's just I can't be more specific. But the point is, when you have a decent operation, then things can be good. Like that one place in Butantã I reported on back then, that too I found on PhotoAccompanhante
So PhotoAcompnanhantes is not bad by itself and the expensive sites aren't really a guarantee for anything better. If anything, these other sites are so crazy expensive that they just drive up the price. BarraVips for example charges 850 reais for a fucking week! Photoaccompanhantes charge 80 per 14 days I think. And if they are photo verified and some can choose to publish the verification video, then you do get to see that they are real.
Stinky Squid
10-02-23, 09:30
Hello, I am currently in Sao Paulo and I would like to visit a clinic where they could give me oral sex and why not more. (if this is possible of course).
I await your advice, thanks.You probably found everyone saying that Tangara in Moema is the place to go.
Stinky Squid
10-02-23, 09:46
Visited The Palms and Lotus again. A manger friend of the owner at Palms was interested in my art and thought I should talk to the owner who is from England. (not enough time this trip) All these places tell you about the massage options and I just laugh and say, "I did not travel 10,000 miles to get a massage. I am looking for intimacy" They do not feel like meet markets. They all charge 750 brl. For full service (very cute girls, some were terrific to be with) it's worth it. I did not tip.Call me cheap, but I would never pay 750 bucks for an hour except if there is something very very special like a full blown kinky where I get to tie her up and spank her hard or something. There are some chicks I contacted from Twitter who seem like high classy, but just for looks I doubt it is worth it because there are so many pretty ones for 150 reais! One of the Twitter girls quoted for 600 for 3 hours, that's something I would risk.
Stinky Squid
10-02-23, 09:49
Only took 4 years to figure out. Miamiboy thanks for the instruction on photos. There is more to life then just the girls. Although next time I will have company and go to Buzios etc. With them. thats why I got numbers for the hot ones who spoke English. here's 2 of them. I am not posting some photos on purpose. still having problems but Enjoy.So who is that brunette here? This is one of those who I might pay 500 an hour or 600 for two or 3 IF I knew she did everything I want.
Stinky Squid
10-02-23, 09:54
On Sep 3 I went there and picked Karina, a 25 yo spinner. I tried to star the activities leaning over to kiss her. She said she doesn't kiss. I was disappointed but I was going to continue the session but she said she would kiss if I pay 50 reals. That pissed me off. Its not about the money which is just 10 bucks but I wondered what if she charges for other activities that are part of standard service. I asked if she would be ok if I end the session so I could pick another girl. She said ok, I left the room and told the mamasan about what happened and that I would pay whatever is owed. She didn't take any money. I never saw Karina on the roster that whole week I was there.
Has anyone encountered similar situation? Should I have continued the session with or without paying the extra?It's common. I never really get this, but it is easier to get a BBBJ than good kissing. I don't know what your base rate was, but generally in these places the standard rate doesn't include kissing or BBBJ or anal. But it is a fairly simple negotiation process.
Why she didn't show up on the roster again? I am 50% certain she was fired because of your complaint. There is actually a pretty hefty over-supply and those that depend on this income often take pretty shitty deals and these pimps who have standards will be demanding and do not tolerate girls who make too much of a fuzz.
Julia a 19 yo cute girl with braces.
Those are cute, I die for them every time. The cutie naughty girl I meet in a couple of days has braces too. I love picking girls with braces. So cute.
Axel Heyst
10-02-23, 13:17
Prime: I always had good luck at this clinica and it is no different this time except one small incident.
On Sep 3 I went there and picked Karina, a 25 yo spinner. I tried to star the activities leaning over to kiss her. She said she doesn't kiss. I was disappointed but I was going to continue the session but she said she would kiss if I pay 50 reals. That pissed me off. Its not about the money which is just 10 bucks but I wondered what if she charges for other activities that are part of standard service. I asked if she would be ok if I end the session so I could pick another girl. She said ok, I left the room and told the mamasan about what happened and that I would pay whatever is owed. She didn't take any money. I never saw Karina on the roster that whole week I was there.
Has anyone encountered similar situation? Should I have continued the session with or without paying the extra? Hey Lalabo, "she doesn't kiss" has never been a problem for me with Brazilian girls and over all I consider Brazilian girls some of the best, most passionate kissers in the world. But I did have a reluctant kisser one time in the form of a very pretty black MClass girl. No kissing is a huge cock block for me, as is CBJ's, so I was ready to abort the mission, the moment she turned away from my kiss, but she was smokin' hot, as good looking as her photos, so I wanted to fuck her, but I also wanted a good session too, so I offered her 50 BR extra for DFK. She said OK, of course, but she added a clause that the kissing would stop if I had bad breath. KKK. Needless to say, we never stopped making out the whole time and it turned out to be a pretty good session for 600 BR + 50. Afterwards, I stuck around her place for a while, and we smoked one of her joints and got high.
So, in this singular case, I think I did the right thing, and the proof is that everything worked out better than fine, but in theory and general practice, I agree with you and I have done the same thing in similar situations in a BKK oily massage parlor and a Jakarta bordello on the very rare occasion when a girl was not willing to perform at the minimal level. I just terminated the session before anything serious took place. I agree with Squid, the girl was probably canned. Too bad, but she will find employment in another clinica and maybe she learned an important lesson. Maybe. KKK.
Hey Lalabo, "she doesn't kiss" has never been a problem for me with Brazilian girls and over all I consider Brazilian girls some of the best, most passionate kissers in the world. ....It takes skill to do what you have accomplished. I looked at the numbers posted on GPG. These are the two commonly mentioned places with the worst ratios.
Call me cheap, but I would never pay 750 bucks for an hour ....It's maybe about half to the girls. You can look up the post to see the exact amount. That means you will pay far less if the girl see you outside. Overtime, it is not a bad deal when you average it out.
Tangara is not far from Moema. It is in Vila Mariana.
You probably found everyone saying that Tangara in Moema is the place to go.
Tangara is not far from Moema. It is in Vila Mariana.Clinica Tangara has a deep lineup. Nounce counted 37 after I missed 5 of them in my count. Kkkk.
Presentation of over 20 garotas is cool. It is a friendly spot on Sunday afternoon for BBQ and music in the basement. It is a quick Uber ride from Moema.
In my opinion, Tangara has two out of three receptionists who are good to deal with. The mature MILF receptionist wears black leather pants to show off her ass and the guy is solid.
There is a bar in the basement instead of waiting on the couches with other guys. My favorite rooms are on the first floor across from reception. I booked in advance a duplo session with two chicas from the wassap lineup and gp-gua reviews. Lily cooper is damn popular. Arriella the porno gal works well in duplos. The place seems packed with guys during popular times.
The guy cleaning the rooms does a terrible job better if they hire an older lady like in other places. I Return to SP in a couple of weeks.
The cleaning guy makes me laugh because he is like a Brazilian version of the Jimmy Walker character from the old American TV show Good Times. Dy-no-mite!
Clinica Tangara has a deep lineup. Nounce counted 37 after I missed 5 of them in my count. Kkkk.
Presentation of over 20 garotas is cool. It is a friendly spot on Sunday afternoon for BBQ and music in the basement. It is a quick Uber ride from Moema.
In my opinion, Tangara has two out of three receptionists who are good to deal with. The mature MILF receptionist wears black leather pants to show off her ass and the guy is solid.
There is a bar in the basement instead of waiting on the couches with other guys. My favorite rooms are on the first floor across from reception. I booked in advance a duplo session with two chicas from the wassap lineup and gp-gua reviews. Lily cooper is damn popular. Arriella the porno gal works well in duplos. The place seems packed with guys during popular times.
The guy cleaning the rooms does a terrible job better if they hire an older lady like in other places. I Return to SP in a couple of weeks.
Axel Heyst
10-03-23, 12:50
It takes skill to do what you have accomplished. I looked at the numbers posted on GPG. These are the two commonly mentioned places with the worst ratios.Wow, I can't believe these stats from GPG. For example, the one on Casarao & kissing or on Abboboro & oral sex & kissing is simply not my experience at these two venerable establishments, and I have been to both of these joints many, many times in recent years. KKK.
This is just another reason why I never bother to look at girly reviews on GPG. I don't care about any of that because, IMHO, hunting down this information a waste of my time and boring as all hell. I trust my own eyes and instincts instead. So, when I go to a boate or a clinica, I make more or less spontaneous decisions relying on how I feel about things as they develop, what is available, and a girl's interview / audition in a boate or the immediate vibe I get in clinica lineup.
So, what is your experience with SP girls? I will wager it is closer to my experiences than those dismal stats reported on GPG, but I could be wrong. Ha Ha. Keep rockin.
A. H.
It's common. I never really get this, but it is easier to get a BBBJ than good kissing. I don't know what your base rate was, but generally in these places the standard rate doesn't include kissing or BBBJ or anal. But it is a fairly simple negotiation process.
Why she didn't show up on the roster again? I am 50% certain she was fired because of your complaint. There is actually a pretty hefty over-supply and those that depend on this income often take pretty shitty deals and these pimps who have standards will be demanding and do not tolerate girls who make too much of a fuzz.
I have also noticed that girls more willing to do BBBJ than kissing. I agree with you that she was let go.
I know anal is not part of the standard service. I have paid extra for it many times, and on occasion it was part of std service. Based on my experience BBBJ and kissing is pretty much standard at clinicas. Of course, time to time you run into girls refusing to kiss or doing CBJ or charging extra for those services.
Prime and Maruna charge 200/ half hour and 270/ hour whereas Abbabora charges 330/ hour. Price is not at all an issue at these places and it wasn't the point of my post.
Those are cute, I die for them every time. The cutie naughty girl I meet in a couple of days has braces too. I love picking girls with braces. So cute.I saw bunch of girls in Casarao with Braces. They only look good on some girls and Julia was one of them. She was the cutest of them all and petite with nice ass.
I have also noticed that girls more willing to do BBBJ than kissing.You see, because in the mind of a many prostitute (they've watched too many movies), kissing = love and affection while a BJ is just a straightforward sexual act without the emotion behind it. And them tutes? They don't love them tricks!
Wow, I can't believe these stats from GPG. For example, the one on Casarao & kissing or on Abboboro & oral sex & kissing is simply not my experience at these two venerable establishments, and I have been to both of these joints many, many times in recent years. KKK.....Those stats are quite accurate from my point of view. It is not like that I went based on review. The reason I read reviews on these places is because the service or offering are below standard so I try to figure out what is the reason.
I practically stayed next to Casarao for more than one month and went multiple times a week. I was wondering why the service was below standard so I started to read past posts on ISG. Then I found out XXL or someone else said you have to ask for BBBJ otherwise you probably won't get it. I posted about all these before as it happened. So I think GPG is reliable.
After a while, I basically saw more or less the same girls show up at Casarao. I thought some were attractive but it became stale. I had a couple of regulars from boate at the time that would came to my place so I didn't really care.
I have been to Abbobora many times before. I went to Abbobora about a month ago. The hottest girl won't do BBBJ so I settled for the second hottest. To me the GPG reviews matches my experiences. I kept hearing all these hot girls at Abbobora, but I never really saw those except maybe the first time I went a few years ago. They are a tad better on average and that makes no difference to me.
The main reason that I noticed those numbers is because another ISG member insisted that something like if a member is reporting getting CBJ in Brazil, that member is lying. And said something about using GPG. So I went to GPG and took the numbers to post it here to prove it either way. LOL.
My experience with SP girls has been good, my percentage is a little lower than yours. Now I always ask and that works out well. I don't need a resounding yes to take the girl. I know some girl may say no when asked but they may do it in the room if not asked. I want something that is not absolutely no.
I dug up this post.
I can now safely say that if you don't agree oral without condom beforehand at Casarao 90% of chances are you'll get covered blow-job.
Axel Heyst
10-05-23, 02:27
Nounce, what can I say? I am surprised to hear about your experiences with Casarao and Abboboro girls. I am at a loss to explain why your stats are so different from my own. But let's see, my last trip started in the middle of May and ran to the end of June 2023.
On this trip I went to Casarao 3 times around midnight & took home 3 different girls. No negotiations! Just a little friendly flirtation over a drink, with some kisses and rubs. Later in my room non-stop DFK and multiple BBBJ's with each girl. In Brazil, I almost always finish with covered vaginal sex unless the girl offers CIM, or we both agree to go bareback. On this trip I only barebacked Valerie. And this is the only complaint I have with Brazilian girls. They are too fucking reluctant to bareback! For example, my Valerie would not bareback me until our 8th or 9th time together which was 6 months after we first met in Scandallo on a previous trip.
I also visited Abboboro 5 times in May & June and sampled 5 different girls. These girls are not Scandallo quality and that is ok with me. I like afternoon diversity every so often to break things up. I DFK'd with all 5 Abboboro girls and as usual I enjoyed multiple BBBJ's with each girl each session. My last Abboboro girl of the trip was a blond around 25, who was a little bit past her prime but was still sexy. I imagine she was a genuine hottie when she was 18 or 19 and had her pick of the boys. KKK. Anyway, we clicked early on, and she gave me a very passionate GFE session. I think we both pretended a little, but it felt really good at the time. It ended when I came in her mouth.
So, I repeat; Brazilian girls give some of the best head in the world. Where else can you find the "kneeling blow job". I never heard of it before I came to Brazil. My 1st Brazilian girl turned me on to it and since that 1st time back in April 2021, I must have had 60 or 70 "kneeling blow jobs" (maybe more). Whos' counting? KKK. It is a great sex move! And another great sex technique Brazilian girls have to offer is the multiple BBBJ. They usually start with a "Kneeling BBBJ" by the bed or in the shower. Then a 2nd BJ back on the bed after drying off. And a 3rd one while changing sex positions or for the final act, CIM.
Brazilian girls and over all I consider Brazilian girls some of the best, most passionate kissers in the world.I agree your comment about Brazilian girls being some of the best and passionate kissers. That is my experience too. For Brazilian girls kissing means full on kissing which I love. No LFK, DFK or something in between bullshit.
I can occasionally settle for CBJ as long as good kissing is provided. I do make exceptions depending on how hot the girl is. I also try to convince super hot girls to provide services she is not willing to provide. Extra money usually does the trick.
You see, because in the mind of a many prostitute (they've watched too many movies), kissing = love and affection while a BJ is just a straightforward sexual act without the emotion behind it. And them tutes? They don't love them tricks!LOL. That's the BS justification they usually provide for not kissing.
I was wondering why the service was below standard so I started to read past posts on ISG. Then I found out XXL or someone else said you have to ask for BBBJ otherwise you probably won't get it. I posted about all these before as it happened. So I think GPG is reliable.
If you don't negotiate upfront then lot of girls try to pull CBJ, no kissing etc. BS on you. It maybe more prevalent in Casarao but it can happen in any of the SP boetes including Scandallo. That is why I try to find out beforehand if the girl provides the services I am interested in to reduce surprises in the room.
Of 4-5 clinicas I have visited, I only experienced CBJ BS at Abbobora, never at Prime or Maruna.
LOL. That's the BS justification they usually provide for not kissing.Some people, both men and women, are legitimately concerned about germs and getting sick. I happen to be one of those people. You see, after my very first trip to Brazil way back when, I got so sick from kissing an all those pretty branca and morena hoors down there! Missed a full week of work recovering, including from a sore throat. But luckily, I had the solution for all future trips, which was to gargle frequently with Listerine. I started doing that and never got sick from kissing again. It's a nice tip I picked up right here on ISG. So mongers don't forget to pack your Listerine then slobber away!
I've been anti-Abbobora since the time a girl told me she expected extra money for a second pop. I did not insist. It was the last time I went to Abbobora. I think I could have gotten my way if I made an issue of it because, after all, they charge 330 BRL / hour. At this stage of the game I just can't be bothered; there are too many other options.
If you don't negotiate upfront then lot of girls try to pull CBJ, no kissing etc. BS on you. It maybe more prevalent in Casarao but it can happen in any of the SP boetes including Scandallo. That is why I try to find out beforehand if the girl provides the services I am interested in to reduce surprises in the room.
Of 4-5 clinicas I have visited, I only experienced CBJ BS at Abbobora, never at Prime or Maruna.
Here at home in Medellin I earned the reputation of a Centro rat who ventures out into the world of casas from time to time. In Sao Paulo I am pretty much a full time clinica rat. But even there I stay true to my charlie cheapie tendencies by hanging around Tangara and Yakin in Vila Mariana and only occasionally going "upmarket" in Moema. The last time I was in town I was pleasantly surprised by the recently opened Clinica Zeus (they presumptively call themselves Zeus Prive). I think they have the right to the Prive claim because most of the space is in fact bar, lounge and reception with only 4 small rooms upstairs. It's just down the street from Yankin at Doutor Jose Queiroz Aranha 214. I stumbled on it when I was scrolling gp-guide before my last trip. The reviews were promising but I didn't have my hopes up very high. I decided to pull the trigger when the girl I wanted to see at Yankin didn't show up for work that day. Probably because they only opened last summer the public and session areas are noticeably nicer than Yankin or Tangara. They are on par with mid range Moema places like Red Massegems and Miruna 644. Rooms have TVs, not that I would ever turn one on. There is a comfortable lounge area with booths where I cheapskate like me can pretend he is in Scandallo or Casarao LOL! The small bar is comfortable and well stocked. The prices relative to the girl quality is highly competitive. I rate the girls on par with the 140 BRL-30 min /190 BRL-60 min staff at Tangara and Yankin, but the price is 100 BRL-30 min /180 BRL 60 min. I recommend it as a low risk way for you late night ballers to see how the other half lives. LOL.
Gabbarsing
10-05-23, 23:16
Hello fellow mongers,
Yes, it is time for me to visit SP again. I always like to have a wing man while mongering in SP. Let me know if someone want to tag along. I am fairly familiar with mongering biz in SP since it's my 6th trip in last 2. 5 years. I just turn 40 (yay) and easy going.
I will be landing to SP on Oct 10th Tuesday evening and will be there until 20th. You can DM me and we can coordinate.
Cheers and Happy mongering.
Some people, both men and women, are legitimately concerned about germs and getting sick. I happen to be one of those people. You see, after my very first trip to Brazil way back when, I got so sick from kissing an all those pretty branca and morena hoors down there! Missed a full week of work recovering, including from a sore throat. But luckily, I had the solution for all future trips, which was to gargle frequently with Listerine. I started doing that and never got sick from kissing again. It's a nice tip I picked up right here on ISG. So mongers don't forget to pack your Listerine then slobber away!Very good advice on using Listerine, one of the essentials for our hobby. Like you I used to get sick (cold & cough) but that stopped ever since I started using Listerine after ever session.
Also I kiss only if the girl has good oral hygiene, otherwise I focus on other activities.
Speaking of germs. How many of yall go down on the girls? Does it vary by source (boate vs clinica)? Maybe get a better service / build conning, but also seems risky.
... That is why I try to find out beforehand if the girl provides the services I am interested in to reduce surprises in the room.....Agreed. The first girl I talked to yesterday told me she charges extra cash (caixinha) for it. I asked how much, she said 100. I said no thank you. Told the manager to ask another one out, ask the same question, she said yes. I like it much better this way. I think the first girl took a gamble. In this case, she lost. Usually in my experience, it is new girls that will want to charge extra.
If I really want the girl, then I won't ask, and I am fine she does not do it in the room. A few weeks ago, the girl told me these are fetishes. She charges 100 to 150 for fetishes.
Speaking of germs. How many of yall go down on the girls? Does it vary by source (boate vs clinica)? Maybe get a better service / build conning, but also seems risky.I don't usually do it. But I did it once because the girl was new and so aroused so I did it. I got sore throat for about 1 week, spent more than are $ 1000 to see a private doctor and did test.
Speaking of germs. How many of yall go down on the girls? Does it vary by source (boate vs clinica)? Maybe get a better service / build conning, but also seems risky.I eat pussy. And if she really turns me on? I'll eat that ass! Thus, a heightened need for the Listerine.
Nounce, what can I say? I am surprised to hear about your experiences with Casarao and Abboboro girls. ....My question to you is did you reject anyone at Casarao? Did you have 100% success rate with 0 rejection before taking them to the room? About blow job, there is another world out there. LOL
Axel Heyst
10-06-23, 13:43
My question to you is did you reject anyone at Casarao? Did you have 100% success rate with 0 rejection before taking them to the room? About blow job, there is another world out there. LOLMy decline percentages at various boates is very low. But yes, I have politely ended various conversations and declined to ask a boate girl out for various reasons on a limited number of occasions. My two main reasons, among many, for declining to ask a boate girl out is 1. The girl's poor audition performance and / or 2. A failure to agree on price.
On my last trip I did not reject any Casarao girls, but I did end the conversation with a Cafe Photo girl when she started getting ridiculous near the end of the audition. We were getting along good and had agreed on price, but at the last moment, she asked me to buy her dinner before we left the club. Now, eating before boom boom is a no go with me because a full stomach slows me down in bed. So I said, not now, we can have dinner afterwards, maybe. But the girl went on to say she was very hungry and began to insist on being fed. It was crazy. So after the my 3rd "not now, I am not hungry" I said, "You know what? I think you should go have your dinner now and maybe we will see each other another time. " She sat there for a little while pondering over what I had said. KKK. Then realizing that the gig was up, she asked if I wanted her to leave my table and I said YES! She seemed genuinely surprised by this turn of events, but she quickly accepted the situation and politely left my table. I wondered around the bar and found a slender blond just to my liking in the outdoor patio area. We had a nice little conversation, so I took her back to my hotel, we thumb wrestled and made out in the taxi, and back at the ranch we had a great fuck!
Axel Heyst
10-06-23, 18:03
My question to you is did you reject anyone at Casarao? Did you have 100% success rate with 0 rejection before taking them to the room? About blow job, there is another world out there. LOLJust a small note of clarification: I reject most of the boate + terma girls who come up & hit on me. They are usually the less attractive girls in the club IMHO, and I do get a fair amount of that kind of attention in places like Scandallo, for example, although it does not happen enough to turn me off to the place. I am also sometimes forced to "reject" boate girls whom I have had previous good times with. I don't like doing this, but you know, I can't have repeat relationships with every nice girl that I have been with. So, on my last trip I passed on (I don't like using the word "reject" in this context) 3 really nice tier 2 Scandallo girls and 1 Bomboa girl that I previously had great sessions with. Maybe I will hook up with a couple of them on my next trip.
But getting back my individual audition percentages on Boate girls: The bottom line is my stats are very high with Brazilian Boate and Terma girls. I. E. Most Brazilian girls I ask over pass their audition with flying colors. Only a few girls fuck it up like that Cafe Photo girl I just posted about. I credit these really good stats to the high quality of Brazilian girls. Believe me, my percentages of successful auditions leading to boom boom are lower in BKK, Pat, and even Makati (pre-covid).
Again, I am not talking about my success rate in bed with Brazilian girls. That stat is very high! Which is the main reason I have not returned to East Asia post-covid. I am now talking about the percentage number of Boate girls and Terma girls who pass my auditions and as a result I take upstairs. The answer is most of my Brazilian boate girls pass my auditions with flying colors and subsequently perform good to great in bed.
If or when my Brazilian stats change for the worse, I will be on the first plane back to Swampy.
Axel Heyst
10-06-23, 19:12
I eat pussy. And if she really turns me on? I'll eat that ass! Thus, a heightened need for the Listerine.Hey, I am a pussy lover too. KKK. I love to eat pussy! But there are 2 general rules or choices, of which I am sure you are aware, that I personally follow very closely:
1) a girl's hygiene must be impeccable. Her face, her breath must be very good. No skin problems, sores, or lesions anywhere. And her pussy must be super clean, smell fresh, and taste great.
2) The source: I take into account where I found the girl. For example. I generally don't go down on SW's no matter how attractive or hygienic the SW might be. Thus, I am far, far more likely to go down on a Scandallo or Bomboa girl than a Casarao girl and in general far more likely to go down on a boate girl than a clinica girl all else being equal. Yeah, I know, some Scandallo girls go to Casarao occasionally and I realize my filtering process is not 100% scientific. KKK. But I am saying that these are the factors I take into account when deciding whether I shall go down a girl or play it safe and it hasn't failed me yet.
Of course, there always going to be times when some pretty little waif really turns me on, and I wind up breaking my own rules. KKK. But that is part of the fun with this sport.
Listerine: I use it every day as an important part of my personal hygiene regimen. When I am on a punting trip, I use Listerine multiple times a day and night. KKK. But Listerine only works on small non threating problems. For example, it won't improve your breath if you have gingivitis. And it won't prevent an STI from DATY exposure if you are unlucky enough to catch one!
Speaking of germs. How many of yall go down on the girls? Does it vary by source (boate vs clinica)? Maybe get a better service / build conning, but also seems risky.Unfortunately this hobby is a risky business. Only way to avoid it is not partake. I dine as long as V&O and surrounding area looks healthy, clean without any unpleasant odors. Statistically I skipped kissing&dining more in clinicas & termas than in boetes. Do you kiss / dine or not? If you are worried about germs then I assume you avoid all fluid exchanges meaning no kissing & dining.
Just a small note of clarification: I reject most of the boate + terma girls who come up & hit on me. They are usually the less attractive girls in the club IMHO, and I do get a fair amount of that kind of attention in places like Scandallo, for example, although it does not happen enough to turn me off to the place. My experience in Brazil has always been similar. Of the 150+ women who have approached me unsolicited at the clubs, I've only had one actually convince me to go upstairs. As you pointed out they're often less attractive, but in addition to that they typically have an attitude I find offputting.
I'm contemplating catching a flight down to Sao Paulo, and I'm wondering if anyone can speak to current pricing at Scandallo. I've typically held fast to my R800 price and had success with it despite whatever crazy numbers girls ask for, but on my last trip I actually had a girl walk. I also had another who took it but felt close to walking. For anyone who is on the ground or has been very recently, what kind of prices are you seeing?
Axel Heyst
10-08-23, 14:12
I'm contemplating catching a flight down to Sao Paulo, and I'm wondering if anyone can speak to current pricing at Scandallo. I've typically held fast to my R800 price and had success with it despite whatever crazy numbers girls ask for, but on my last trip I actually had a girl walk. I also had another who took it but felt close to walking. For anyone who is on the ground or has been very recently, what kind of prices are you seeing?On my May / June, SP 2023 visit I never gave a Scandallo girl more than R900. But that is due to my preferred sweet spot at Scandallo being sexy, cute, all natural, tier 2, girl next door types, and these girls will gladly accept a counter offer between R600 to R900. Scandallo tier 1 model quality girls or girls that think they are model quality (kkk) will ask up to R2000 for an in-house session. On previous trips the most I ever gave a Scandallo tier 1 "model" was R1200. Her original ask was R2000. She was definitely worth the R1200! And we hooked up 2 more times on that trip at my hotel.
At Bomboa, my 2nd favorite boate in SP, the sample is a little different. I have been going to Bomboa since Nov 2021 and I have seen only a handful of tier 1 quality girls in Bomboa, but they do have a nice selection of tier 2's. As a result of this skewed supply situation, I have never experienced a Bomboa girl initially asking for more than R1000 and ALL of my Bomboa girls from my last couple of trips readily agreed to my (R600 to R800) counter proposal.
The best way I know to extend one's buying power in SP is to mix things up a little and include a few clinicas in your itinerary. This will drive your average cost per girl way down and will still give you some great nights at Scandallo or Bomboa.
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My experience in Brazil has always been similar. Of the 150+ women who have approached me unsolicited at the clubs, I've only had one actually convince me to go upstairs. As you pointed out they're often less attractive, but in addition to that they typically have an attitude I find offputting.
I'm contemplating catching a flight down to Sao Paulo, and I'm wondering if anyone can speak to current pricing at Scandallo. I've typically held fast to my R800 price and had success with it despite whatever crazy numbers girls ask for, but on my last trip I actually had a girl walk. I also had another who took it but felt close to walking. For anyone who is on the ground or has been very recently, what kind of prices are you seeing?
FlowState985
10-08-23, 16:24
My experience in Brazil has always been similar. Of the 150+ women who have approached me unsolicited at the clubs, I've only had one actually convince me to go upstairs. As you pointed out they're often less attractive, but in addition to that they typically have an attitude I find offputting.
I'm contemplating catching a flight down to Sao Paulo, and I'm wondering if anyone can speak to current pricing at Scandallo. I've typically held fast to my R800 price and had success with it despite whatever crazy numbers girls ask for, but on my last trip I actually had a girl walk. I also had another who took it but felt close to walking. For anyone who is on the ground or has been very recently, what kind of prices are you seeing?They starts at 1500. So I was with a couple of friends last week, and they knew a couple of girls that work at Solarium Terma in Rio and was at Scandallo that night. They told me to go up to them and ask the price because 1 of the girl speak English and because they might know them already from Solarium. Anyway, I went up and chat for about 10-15 minute, and then by the end I asked her how much does she charge. She said 1500. LOL. I didn't counter, I just want to get a quote and she wasn't great looking, body is decent, but face is okay at best.
A couple of other girls came by the table and they chat with them and got a quote, same thing. One of my friend's regular saw him, and they chat and made a deal early and she always charges him same thing 600 r. The deal was if she can't get anyone by 10 pm, they'll go up for that price. So by 1015, she couldn't get anyone to bite, they met again and went up.
Your 800 r probably still good there.
Life is short, go all in for Scandallo. Time spent at clinicas is time missed with the creme de la creme.
On my May / June, SP 2023 visit I never gave a Scandallo girl more than R900. But that is due to my preferred sweet spot at Scandallo being sexy, cute, all natural, tier 2, girl next door types, and these girls will gladly accept a counter offer between R600 to R900. Scandallo tier 1 model quality girls or girls that think they are model quality (kkk) will ask up to R2000 for an in-house session. On previous trips the most I ever gave a Scandallo tier 1 "model" was R1200. Her original ask was R2000. She was definitely worth the R1200! And we hooked up 2 more times on that trip at my hotel.
At Bomboa, my 2nd favorite boate in SP, the sample is a little different. I have been going to Bomboa since Nov 2021 and I have seen only a handful of tier 1 quality girls in Bomboa, but they do have a nice selection of tier 2's. As a result of this skewed supply situation, I have never experienced a Bomboa girl initially asking for more than R1000 and ALL of my Bomboa girls from my last couple of trips readily agreed to my (R600 to R800) counter proposal.
The best way I know to extend one's buying power in SP is to mix things up a little and include a few clinicas in your itinerary. This will drive your average cost per girl way down and will still give you some great nights at Scandallo or Bomboa.
On my May / June, SP 2023 visit I never gave a Scandallo girl more than R900. But that is due to my preferred sweet spot at Scandallo being sexy, cute, all natural, tier 2, girl next door types, and these girls will gladly accept a counter offer between R600 to R900. Yeah that tends to be my demographic as well, partly because they have the best attitudes and also because I find some of the more conservatively dressed girls have amazing bodies. The handful of times I've gone for the model types and paid a bit extra it never felt worth it. Still good experiences, just not anything special by Brazilian standards. End of July was when I was there last, and when one girl turned down R800.
On a related note I also had a Casarao girl ask for R700 and hold firm to it, but she was gorgeous and frankly I still regret walking away from that.
My trips have been getting longer so I've done more clinica and Casarao visits which I definitely enjoy, but Scandallo is always the main draw. If I ever get priced out of there I'd likely try some of the smaller southern cities.
Steve 9696
10-08-23, 21:23
Yeah that tends to be my demographic as well, partly because they have the best attitudes and also because I find some of the more conservatively dressed girls have amazing bodies. The handful of times I've gone for the model types and paid a bit extra it never felt worth it. Still good experiences, just not anything special by Brazilian standards. End of July was when I was there last, and when one girl turned down R800.
On a related note I also had a Casarao girl ask for R700 and hold firm to it, but she was gorgeous and frankly I still regret walking away from that.
My trips have been getting longer so I've done more clinica and Casarao visits which I definitely enjoy, but Scandallo is always the main draw. If I ever get priced out of there I'd likely try some of the smaller southern cities.I think you should be good. I was there in March and I think all the pussy inflation happened before then and stuff should be about the same. My girl asked 1000 and I didn't beat her down. Prob woulda taken 800. When I came back my buddy was seriously making out with a nice spinner on the floor. He doesn't speak Porto so I did the negotiation. Which was brief! I offer 700 and she said fine! She was a hot one but I think she liked him. Seems like 800 should get it done.
Axel Heyst
10-09-23, 20:01
Life is short, go all in for Scandallo. Time spent at clinicas is time missed with the creme de la creme.I agree. The BOATES are #1 in SP, but I still like to mix it up a little when I am in town.
I have had SP trips when I hung out exclusively at clinicas or with Mclass call girls. My resulting April 2021 1st trip is one I will never forget because it took place during the covid lockdown. Man, was I glad the clinicas had somehow been able to remain open!
I have also had SP trips when I only did boates & boate girls, and lastly I have had trips that included various mixes of boates & clinicas (high and low). So, based on all that I have found that a mix of boates & a few of the better clinicas works best for me, but my 2nd favorite preference is an all boate catered affair. KKK. And my 3rd favorite SP preference is an all clinica affair. My point being you really can't go wrong in this town. Just choose your poison ie where you want to go, who you want to shag, how much you want to spend, and have a blast.
Anyone know how to write a review for a clinica and get a discount?
You have to establish a gp-guia account and submit the review on the web site. You can draft your review in the language of your choice then translate it to Portuguese. Remember to follow the prescribed format that you see on gp-guia. The discount might not be worth the time it takes to write and submit the review. You have to be the judge of that.
Anyone know how to write a review for a clinica and get a discount?
Anyone know how to write a review for a clinica and get a discount?It does not have to do with anything meaningful. You can actually copy from other reviews.
I agree. The BOATES are #1 in SP, but I still like to mix it up a little when I am in town.
I have had SP trips when I hung out exclusively at clinicas or with Mclass call girls. My resulting April 2021 1st trip is one I will never forget because it took place during the covid lockdown. Man, was I glad the clinicas had somehow been able to remain open!
I have also had SP trips when I only did boates & boate girls, and lastly I have had trips that included various mixes of boates & clinicas (high and low). So, based on all that I have found that a mix of boates & a few of the better clinicas works best for me, but my 2nd favorite preference is an all boate catered affair. KKK. And my 3rd favorite SP preference is an all clinica affair. My point being you really can't go wrong in this town. Just choose your poison ie where you want to go, who you want to shag, how much you want to spend, and have a blast.Thanks for this, really excited to make my first trip to Brazil in November!
So far, been to: Tijuana, MDE, PI, CZ. Hoping to have some neurons firing in Brazil. However, CZ (show park) and MDE (Isla, ease of mobile hook ups) seem tough to beat.
You have to establish a gp-guia account and submit the review on the web site. You can draft your review in the language of your choice then translate it to Portuguese. Remember to follow the prescribed format that you see on gp-guia. The discount might not be worth the time it takes to write and submit the review. You have to be the judge of that.How much discount are we talking about? Say R250 per hour normally, and with discount? Do I tell the reception if I have written reviews?
Jimmy Boy 99
10-12-23, 16:27
How much discount are we talking about? Say R250 per hour normally, and with discount? Do I tell the reception if I have written reviews?The discount usually is that you get an hour for the 30 minute rate, which works out to be around a 25% discount.
How much discount are we talking about? Say R250 per hour normally, and with discount? Do I tell the reception if I have written reviews?You can tell them your user name. They will look it up on GPG. This discount will expire so you have to keep on writing review but it depends on the receptionist.
The answer to the GPG registration question used to be avião.
Today is holiday. Almost everything is shutdown.
You can tell them your user name. They will look it up on GPG. This discount will expire so you have to keep on writing review but it depends on the receptionist.
The answer to the GPG registration question used to be avio.
Today is holiday. Almost everything is shutdown.Who earns less in this case? The house or the girl? Would the girl be a little upset if she ends up make a little less?
Who earns less in this case? The house or the girl? Would the girl be a little upset if she ends up make a little less?I was wondering about it too but I decided not to ask. I have never felt the girl is unhappy about it.
The problem is now certain receptionist made this a very unpleasant experience that I have reported about 8 weeks ago.
I think I made a mistake about half hour rate. I am not certain but I think it is 200.
Jimmy Boy 99
10-14-23, 04:44
Who earns less in this case? The house or the girl? Would the girl be a little upset if she ends up make a little less?I doubt that a girl would agree to a reduced fee since it is the climica that is giving the promo and getting the publicity.
I'm not sure whether the girls have to take the discount out of their fee. My guess is that it's between the clinica and the punters. I don't know what difference it makes one way or the other.
I was wondering about it too but I decided not to ask. I have never felt the girl is unhappy about it.
The problem is now certain receptionist made this a very unpleasant experience that I have reported about 8 weeks ago.
I think I made a mistake about half hour rate. I am not certain but I think it is 200.
I doubt that a girl would agree to a reduced fee since it is the climica that is giving the promo and getting the publicity.As this is an ongoing discount, I think the clinicas would have the deal in place when a girl is hired to work so the girl would have agreed to it before the first service. It could be like what you think but It could also be as simple as a percentage. It's a sizeable discount if it is only taken from clinica's share.
Jimmy Boy 99
10-15-23, 04:12
As this is an ongoing discount, I think the clinicas would have the deal in place when a girl is hired to work so the girl would have agreed to it before the first service. It could be like what you think but It could also be as simple as a percentage. It's a sizeable discount if it is only taken from clinica's share.Since the girl is not there when the customer pays, she has no idea if he is paying the full rate or the gp-guia poster rate. It would be too easy for the clinica to lie and say everybody paid the discount rate, so I doubt the girls would accept this. Will ask the girl next time I do a session at one of these clinicas.
Since the girl is not there when the customer pays, she has no idea if he is paying the full rate or the gp-guia poster rate. It would be too easy for the clinica to lie and say everybody paid the discount rate, so I doubt the girls would accept this. Will ask the girl next time I do a session at one of these clinicas.That is true but the receptionist always writes down my user name on a piece of paper or they keep track of visit on a card.
What I am saying is that there is a difference in how this discount is presented to the girls. A girl would more likely to agree to it before she takes the job because it feels less like a pay cut.
If the clinica absorbs the entire discount, then it will need the business to double to break even which seems like gamble with bad odds.
I am not certain but I think it is 200.That is what I piad at Prime and Maruna a month ago.
DonCarlos1234
10-16-23, 07:48
2 few?'s. What % of USA travelers come to visit Clinicas, Boatas etc. Without reading or caring about info on ISG? Asking for a freind.
MarquisdeSade1
10-16-23, 19:35
"I'm not sure whether the girls have to take the discount out of their fee. My guess is that it's between the clinica and the punters. I don't know what difference it makes one way or the other. ".
I tried sending you a PM can you free up space in your mailbox.
I cleared some space I think. Give it a try now. I didn't know I had so many messages.
"I'm not sure whether the girls have to take the discount out of their fee. My guess is that it's between the clinica and the punters. I don't know what difference it makes one way or the other. ".
I tried sending you a PM can you free up space in your mailbox.
FlowState985
10-18-23, 23:02
Okay since everyone is talking about this I'll add in what I noticed after my recent trip. In order for you to get discounted price (forista discount), some clinics require that your first session in a while to be paid in full then the discount starts after for a set period. Here's below.
Prime: They seemed to be the nicest clinica as far as discount goes, only ask you for your username on the other forum. (discounted 200 r / HR, no half).
Miruna: Discount only lasts for 2 months, 1st session outside of it is full price, just do half hour and then they write your username down and date your last session. (discount 200 r / HR, 160 r / hf).
Kin Center: Discount lasts for 1 month, same rule as Miruna. They also take picture of your previous post of the clinic. Payment upfront. (discounted 200 r / HR, no half).
Enjoy Spa: Discount lasts 3 months (same as Miruna. (discounted 200 r / HR).
Chanes 57: There is discount, I didn't partake this time so I don't know how it works.
Any of you São Paulo regulars know if Scandallo or any of the other clubs or even Clinicas will be open on New Year's Day?
Axel Heyst
10-19-23, 15:59
Any of you So Paulo regulars know if Scandallo or any of the other clubs or even Clinicas will be open on New Year's Day?This New Years Eve falls on a Sunday. I don't know if the boates will be open on Monday or not, but I would expect slim pickens' if they are open. Your best bet for a happy SP Christmas & New Years is to make arrangements to see your favorite girls at your place over the holidays. That's my plan anyway and I would not expect the boates to return to normal until January 4 or 5 (the 1st weekend after New years) at the earliest.
Any of you So Paulo regulars know if Scandallo or any of the other clubs or even Clinicas will be open on New Year's Day?They are closed on 1/1. I am pretty sure Scandallo was closed this year. I am 95% sure Clinicas were also closed. I have answered this in one post as I was here during that time. The whole city is pretty dead. Many people go to the beach for vacation.
They are closed on 1/1. I am pretty sure Scandallo was closed this year. I am 95% sure Clinicas were also closed. I have answered this in one post as I was here during that time. The whole city is pretty dead. Many people go to the beach for vacation.Thanks. I figured that was the case. Will have to be a rest day. Or maybe call an escort.
Okay since everyone is talking about this I'll add in what I noticed after my recent trip. In order for you to get discounted price (forista discount), some clinics require that your first session in a while to be paid in full then the discount starts after for a set period. Here's below.
Prime: They seemed to be the nicest clinica as far as discount goes, only ask you for your username on the other forum. (discounted 200 r / HR, no half).
Miruna: Discount only lasts for 2 months, 1st session outside of it is full price, just do half hour and then they write your username down and date your last session. (discount 200 r / HR, 160 r / hf).
Kin Center: Discount lasts for 1 month, same rule as Miruna. They also take picture of your previous post of the clinic. Payment upfront. (discounted 200 r / HR, no half).
Enjoy Spa: Discount lasts 3 months (same as Miruna. (discounted 200 r / HR).
Chanes 57: There is discount, I didn't partake this time so I don't know how it works.Thanks for the clarification. Do you mean expect for Prime, you need to pay in full for one session and tell them your user name in order to receive discount onwards (with reviews written)?
Thanks for the clarification. Do you mean expect for Prime, you need to pay in full for one session and tell them your user name in order to receive discount onwards (with reviews written)?I think there is a typo in your post. It's all of them. There is no exception.
Thanks. I figured that was the case. Will have to be a rest day. Or maybe call an escort.The boates are closed on NYE, as well.
Anyone concerned about the worldwide caution travel advisory put out by the US Department of State? Or could it be mere due diligence due to recent global events?
Why are their no price mentioned for girls on top SP escort websites like clubmodel, mclass, SPLove and private55?
I checked all of them and none of the girls' profile have their hourly rate mentioned? What am I missing? Do you have to text them on WhatsApp and ask for their rate? Cause that way I feel depending on their mood and who they are talking to they can throw whatever ridiculous rate comes to their mind.
If there's something that I'm missing please advise me.
Axel Heyst
10-21-23, 13:15
Why are their no price mentioned for girls on top SP escort websites like clubmodel, mclass, SPLove and private55?
I checked all of them and none of the girls' profile have their hourly rate mentioned? What am I missing? Do you have to text them on WhatsApp and ask for their rate? .Yes, ClubModel and MClass girls do not advertise their rates on line. The procedure is to What's UP the girls that interest you and start a conversation. They will get around to their asking price pretty soon thereafter although it usually takes an hour or longer to set something up. Generally, Club Model & MClass girls will accept offers in the 600 BR to 800 BR price range, but occasionally some super stars or girls who think they are super stars will not go lower than the 1000 BR to 1500 BR range.
I have had good times with MClass and Club Model girls in SP, and Barra VIP girls in RJ with some real fine girls. The photos are accurate although glossed up. The most I ever paid a Brazilian high end call girl was 800 BR. Sadly, one time I had to pass on a gorgeous Club Model girl because she would not come down from her 1500 BR original ask. Although it ends up costing more, I prefer going to the boates over staying in my hotel room waiting for an escort. It is more fun!
Any of you So Paulo regulars know if Scandallo or any of the other clubs or even Clinicas will be open on New Year's Day?I met one of my new favorites at Caesars on New Years Day evening at Caesars last year. Don't know if this helps.
Spent a week in SP this October. This was my second trip to SP and it was amazing, even better than my first trip (you can check my posts to see the previous report).
Saturday
Landed early morning and met up with my boy at the airport. Killed some time until check in to airbnb at 3 pm. Was super tired after the long flight from London but still wanted to session. Went to see Lidia who I saw last trip, in her hotel about 15 minutes uber from my airbnb. Big butt, big fake tits, long straght black hair, tattoos, very dark tan. She's not white but doesn't look black either, looks almost Indian. This was the worst session of the week, I didn't realise how tired I was and was struggling to stay hard the whole time. In hindsight I should have taken steps to make the room more comfortable. The lights were way too bright and she had loud rap music playing on a tv right next to the bed. To her credit she never stopped trying to keep me hard, gave me a decent massage and eventually after almost an hour I got my nut and bounced out of there. Felt pretty low after, not the best start to the trip! 300 BRL for 1 hour.
Sunday
Sunday almost everything is closed. I tried messaging a few girls from last trip but couldn't get anything lined up. Finally a girl from Scandallo that I had met last trip called Emanuelle came through and arrived at my place around 10 pm. Very long straight black hair, no tattoos, dark tan, bimboish face, big fake lips, absolutely ridiculous ass, super wide hips, big legs, tiny waist and small boobs. This time she spoke quite a bit of English which surprised me. She didn't speak a word last trip 6 months ago. Anyway the session was decent but nothing spectacular, probably because I was still jetlagged. 500 BRL for 1 hour.
Monday
Sessioned at my place with an online girl from photoaccompanhantes. Light skinned mulatta with fake boobs, big butt, pretty face, shoulder length curly hair with blonde highlights. Great session. 400 BRL 1 hour.
Tuesday
Session at my place in the afternoon with a dark skinned black girl with the biggest natural tits I've ever seen (think Maserati XXX). Incredible. One of the best sessions of my life. Even just seeing her alone would make the trip to Brazil worth it imo. 500 BRL for 1 hour.
In the evening we went to Scandallo. Was very busy, tons of girls to choose from. Used the 300 BRL entry consumption in the restaurant as I usually do. Spotted an interesting looking girl, young redhead with tattoos, very short hair, nerdy looking but with a crazy fat sloppy ass in a tight dress. She told me she is 20 years old. Negotiated her down from 1500 to 600 for the hour. Did not disappoint in the room. That ass was insane, so fucking big and soft and 100% natural. Fucked the shit out of her then pulled out and came all over that ass. She sucked the rest out of my dick after.
Wednesday
Casarao.
Was feeling satisfied after 2 amazing sessions yesterday so didn't do any sessions during the day.
Went to Bahamas club around 10 pm. 200 BRL entry not consumable. Wasn't that impressed by the quality of girls. I did like how they were wearing sluttier clothing, some in bikinis etc. But overall wouldn't recommend going here. Maybe if you go before 7 pm when the entry is consumable it might be worth it.
Went to Casarao around 12 am. Spotted a girl wearing black yoga pants, sitting down on the DJ platform who looked like she had a huge bunda. You know when you can see how big their ass is just from how their legs and hips are spreading out when they sit down? She had long straight black hair and was a little bit pale. Waited for her to stand up and her ass was as crazy as it looked. Fucking huge and it looked natural too. Walked over and started talking to her, felt the ass and confirmed it was natural. Negotiated 300 BRL for 30 minutes. Went to the room and fucked for 30 minutes straight. Best natural ass I've ever had.
Thursday
Went to Scandallo in the evening but didn't session. It was super quiet, like 50% less than normal, due to it being a public holiday and also raining for most of the day. Advice to others: check if there are any holidays during your planned visit and avoid if at all possible.
Friday
Had the same girl from Casarao over (the one with the huge ass) to my place. 500 BRL for one hour. BBFS. Had her put on some pink lingerie I brought on the tirp. Best session of my life. Fucked her all over the apartment in different positions. I'll never forget the sight of that ass bouncing on my dick.
Saturday
Flew to Rio. Check out the Rio thread where I'll post the rest of my trip report.
Closing thoughts:
Scandallo is still the best place for both quality and quantity of girls imo.
Casarao can have some amazing girls, definitely worth checking out, it's just a shame it peaks so late at night.
I specifically avoided the clinicas because on the last trip I didn't find much there that I liked. For most guys the clinicas are great quality and worth visiting but if you like bigger girls and prefer dark girls I think you can safely skip them without missing much.
I also avoided the boates I visited last time where I didn't find anything (bomboa etc.).
I didn't do that many sessions over the week I was there, but the quality of the sessions was extremely high, some of the best of my life. I think overall I still prefer Rio but SP is definitely worth visiting. Every man can find what he's looking for there.
I arrive in SP this week before traveling to Rio. Already scheduled duplo sessions with my favorite deep throat garotas in the clinicas at the forista rate. The evening and party nights scandalo, bomboa, and casaro late night. Is there a decent hourly Love Motel or Automotel not far from Moema, villa Mariana, and Jardim? I searched guiademoteis.com.br for recommended hourly places to meet up with some new not vetted garotas.
My main place is Cozzy Suites, don't know how girl friendly these smart (ass) hotels are with guests. Anyhow the apthotel prices in. Moema were outrageously high this week for my regular spots.
My main place is Cozzy Suites, don't know how girl friendly Hey Tochka, when I was there back in April, they did not allow guests. Switched to Mercure.
F.
FiftyPoundDick
10-23-23, 17:15
Session at my place in the afternoon with a dark skinned black girl with the biggest natural tits I've ever seen (think Maserati XXX). Incredible. One of the best sessions of my life. Even just seeing her alone would make the trip to Brazil worth it imo. 500 BRL for 1 hour.This sounds amazing, do you mind sharing the details? I'll be in São Paulo soon.
Hey Tochka, when I was there back in April, they did not allow guests. Switched to Mercure.
F.Which Mercure??
Has anyone been to Casarao on Mondays or Tuesdays. Is it a totally dead?
I arrived in Sao paulo today, and I'll be here for a month, so I don't want to spend Scandallo money just yet.
I usually enjoy Casarao a lot when I go there. I just have never been this early in the week before.
I don't think a BRICS country like Brazil may fear any kind of attacks from other pro BRICS organizations.
Anyone concerned about the worldwide caution travel advisory put out by the US Department of State? Or could it be mere due diligence due to recent global events?
NoBuglyFitches
10-24-23, 00:47
Session at my place in the afternoon with a dark skinned black girl with the biggest natural tits ...
Where did you find the black girl with big tits -- I'm always on the lookout for one of those.
In the evening we went to Scandallo. Negotiated her down from 1500 to 600 for the hour.
I got 1500 down to 1000 at Scandalo but never down to 600. Did you just offer 600 and she accepted?
Mush Elvii
10-24-23, 03:14
I've read 60+ pages of SP forum to get myself a crash course on how to spend few days in SP.
I 've been using SA (seeking) in LatAM for past few years with overall good success, however I did not find noticeable input or reviews on SA experiences in SA (also looked at SA thread at ISG).
I am monitoring it for past few days and see usual 10-20 girls repeatedly being popped up / logged in. Is SA not widely used in Brazil? I started chat with few but I can tell that English speaking garotas are much less (say compare to CDMX).
Any insight / input appreciated! SA is just one possible vessel in scoping out girls there (it usually helps getting a non-pro for GND type encounter).
If nothing else, then Scandallo every night. LOL.
The Critic
10-24-23, 06:38
Spent a week in SP this October. This was my second trip to SP and it was amazing, even better than my first trip Good, detailed report. Look forward to your next SP trip report.
Steve 9696
10-24-23, 08:38
I've read 60+ pages of SP forum to get myself a crash course on how to spend few days in SP.
I 've been using SA (seeking) in LatAM for past few years with overall good success, however I did not find noticeable input or reviews on SA experiences in SA (also looked at SA thread at ISG).
I am monitoring it for past few days and see usual 10-20 girls repeatedly being popped up / logged in. Is SA not widely used in Brazil? I started chat with few but I can tell that English speaking garotas are much less (say compare to CDMX).
Any insight / input appreciated! SA is just one possible vessel in scoping out girls there (it usually helps getting a non-pro for GND type encounter).
If nothing else, then Scandallo every night. LOL.So yeah the SA scene is def light in Brazil. But you can find a gem just like anywhere. Had an amazing girl in Rio. Full on 9. 5 all around. But my garota Porto isn't bad so that helps. Def Scandallo. But Casarao is worth your time as well. Not as glitzy a scene but tons of doable girls. Make sure to negotiate BBBJ up front. There is a a covered BJ disease spreading there. 😋.
SoberHans69
10-24-23, 12:50
It's a shame that there doesn't seem to be any similar venues to Casarao, in the same price range. I know about Connections but that seems to be quite far away from Avenida Paulista.
I searched GP GUIA for any alternatives and noticed Estacao Pinheiros Station and Kilt Shows, has anyone been to either of these?
Anyone concerned about the worldwide caution travel advisory put out by the US Department of State? Or could it be mere due diligence due to recent global events?Saw this in the news today: "United States President Joe Biden abruptly ended his address on Monday as he was rushed to the Situation Room, with reports American military bases were coming under further attacks. ".
Waiting for more information.
Where did you find the black girl with big tits -- I'm always on the lookout for one of those. Found her on private55/ photoaccomphantes / twitter. Her name is Isa Bombom. I highly recommend.
I got 1500 down to 1000 at Scandalo but never down to 600. Did you just offer 600 and she accepted?I just kept saying that it was too much, she dropped down to 1000 first, then 800 and finally 600 after some back and forth negotiating.
Where is GPGUIA's template? I'd like to follow the format, but where do I write the girl's name so it's in the green box, not just text in the paragraph? Thanks.
FlowState985
10-26-23, 01:41
But Casarao is worth your time as well. Not as glitzy a scene but tons of doable girls. Make sure to negotiate BBBJ up front. There is a a covered BJ disease spreading there. 😋.LOL. I'm glad I'm not the only one noticed. I found out this past trip too many girls wanted CBJ. I had to start ask about BBBJ upfront after 2 did CBJ in the room. I had to turn down a chic around 3 am bc she would only do CBJ.
Jimmy Boy 99
10-26-23, 03:27
Where is GPGUIA's template? I'd like to follow the format, but where do I write the girl's name so it's in the green box, not just text in the paragraph? Thanks. When you are on the page where you are posting your report, go to the Commentario section and click the arrow and then click if it was Neutro, Positivo, or Negativo to get the the section to input the following.
Selecione a garota.
Valor pago?
Tempo com a GP?
Minutos.
Garota fez oral sem preservativo?
Garota fez anal?
Garota beijou na boca?
De 0 a 10, qual nota voc daria para o atendimento?
If you don't, it will be just posted as a comment.
As far as I'm concerned that the template is one of the biggest benefits of gp-guia. You can scan quickly or search according to your interest and you never have to guess what the poster is trying to say.
When you are on the page where you are posting your report, go to the Commentario section and click the arrow and then click if it was Neutro, Positivo, or Negativo to get the the section to input the following.
Selecione a garota.
Valor pago?
Tempo com a GP?
Minutos.
Garota fez oral sem preservativo?
Garota fez anal?
Garota beijou na boca?
De 0 a 10, qual nota voc daria para o atendimento?
If you don't, it will be just posted as a comment.
This may have been asked tons of times before, but in SP, for 3 days the best options could be?
1. Scandallo.
2 other boates.
3 Clinicas / Massages.
4 Independent escorts pages like private55, clubmodel, For escorts is it common for these girls to ask for partial advance payment (for example Luísa Nowak was asking for 20% of 2500 Rs which is too much) using an app called PIX. Other girl also ask for it, tifany bittencourt.
I am going to Rio after SP.
Axel Heyst
10-26-23, 12:31
4 Independent escorts pages like private55, clubmodel, For escorts is it common for these girls to ask for partial advance payment (for example Lusa Nowak was asking for 20% of 2500 Rs which is too much) using an app called PIX. Other girl also ask for it, tifany bittencourt. Monger rule #2: Never pay a FL, SW, or Escort in advance unless you enjoy receiving bad service.
Funny; Nowak is now asking 2500 BR? Back maybe a year ago I turned her down when she was asking only 1500 BR on Clubmodel. KKK. My advice is forgetabout the escort sites. Concentrate on the clinicas in the afternoon and the boates at night and you will not go wrong. Scandallo, for example, has many Nowak quality Tier 1 girls to choose from and it is a lot more fun to go out and find a girl. The only time I use the high end escort services is on Sundays or holidays when, for one reason or another, I have did make plans to see someone I already know and like. So it is a rare event.
This may have been asked tons of times before, but in SP, for 3 days the best options could be?
1. Scandallo.
2 other boates.
3 Clinicas / Massages.
4 Independent escorts pages like private55, clubmodel, For escorts is it common for these girls to ask for partial advance payment (for example Lusa Nowak was asking for 20% of 2500 Rs which is too much) using an app called PIX. Other girl also ask for it, tifany bittencourt.
I am going to Rio after SP.First, in Brazil you should never do an advance payment or deposit! All of the above options are good. Some depends on how many times you are good for. Do Clinicas in the afternoon, Scandallo or Casarao late evening. And enjoy!
Axel Heyst
10-26-23, 16:14
On the subject of escorts I meant to write that "the only time I use these high end services is on Sundays or holidays when, for one reason or another, I didn't make plans to see someone I already know."
So here is the point I was trying to make:
My advice is forgetabout the escort sites. Concentrate on the clinicas in the afternoon and the boates at night and you will not go wrong. Scandallo, for example, has many Nowak quality Tier 1 girls to choose from and it is a lot more fun to go out and find a girl. The only time I use these high end services is on Sundays or holidays when, for one reason or another, I didn't make plans to see someone I already know. So it is a rare event.
...My guess is it's simply a way to make more money...Thanks fro Alex's report, I have been going to these places exclusively and have enough sample to generalize it a bit.
I had good ones but also ones that I wasn't interested in fucking. Not that the girls are ugly, but they are not my type, or the body look too old. It's the good memory keeps me going back but I don't always get it. That is the sentiment I have, and why I think it is a gamble.
Take what I said as a grain of salt. Consider it as a piece of puzzle. My observation is the girls generally are older. I don't see any that is younger than 20 while 25 and above are common. I have picked 2 older girls and I regretted it both times. I wonder if the age is real. The girls are more refined then the regular clinica girls. The service generally is better on average. BBBJ is not a 100%, kissing is YMMV. Plastic is common. Coincidently, the best session I had was with the youngest, one of the prettier girls and with almost no restrictions on what we both agree on.
Since I said it is a gamble, assume the odds to have an above average session is a generous 50% based my experience. My odds at Scandallo is almost 100%. The clinica girl spends one hour with you. The Scandallo girl spends several hours with you. It makes Scandallo feel like a steal. LOL.
The clinica can have multiple types of room. If you only visit the clinica once, that room you have determine the impression you have of the place. If you happen to be in a big room, you think this clinica is better. If you are in a smaller room, then you think this place is overpriced because the room is the same as lower tier clinica. These are just different pieces of puzzle. The more pieces you have, the better picture you will get.
I am intentionally vague about the detail for my own reason. May share more in the future.
Also, most you can pay by credit card without additional charge but some places you have to give girl cash in the room (Palms, Lotus). Make sure you have 50 with you because the girl may not have change.
I think they also expect you to shower before the girl comes. It may take about 10 minutes for girl to arrive in the room so you really only have about 50 minutes. You can go ahead and take a shower once in the room. The girls wear uniform.
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Just got back from an enjoyable week in Sao Paulo. Combined sightseeing with hobbying. As I always say upfront in my FPs, I am a bargain basement hobbyist. I seek the lowest cost venues whenever I travel to hobby. I don't want to drink with the SPs, don't want a massage, don't want to spend the night with them, don't want to have dinner with them. I do want to experience as many and varied a group of SPs as I can in a week, spending 15 to 20 minutes in each session, doing my 3 favorite positions (mish, doggy, CG). I enjoy the girl next door type, for example, those who look like the coeds you'd see on a typical campus, and MILF type, for example young (ish) mothers who you might see waiting outside a school to pick up their kids. I intentionally got an AirBnb within walking distance of Edificio 134 (Rua Alameda Baro de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia) as it is the closest one to a reasonable place to stay (Villa Buarque). The others I visited were*Rua dos Andradas 69* and*Rua Santa Ifigenia, 11. I sessioned 11 times, for either 40 or 50 reales a pop, though I was probably being charged the gringo rate. 134 was my favorite. It felt perfectly safe walking over there, at least as late as 8 PM. I must have seen at least 50 SPs spread over the 7 or 8 floors, usually standing on the landing of each floor, or on the steps (there is an elevator to get to the top). Quality was very good, and each time I finished a session, on the way out, I would see one or 2 more I'd like to do (I doubled up twice). The first session, the SP began with a BBBJ, and I was thinking I could keep looking forward to that, but that was the last one, all the others started covered, putting on the cover with their mouth. It is possible you can pay for extras, but my almost*non-existent Portuguese precluded me from doing so. The rooms are very small, here and in 69. 11 had larger rooms, but I saw far less SPs the two times I went there. No question, the first thing you feel like doing when you leave is take a shower. Though I didn't encounter wet spots or stains on the sheets, I don't imagine they change them more than once per day. I only choose those who return my smile with a sweet looking smile of their own, and I can say that all the sessions were enjoyable, I never felt the SP didn't want to be there, no matter how they really felt. I had read bad things about 69, that the SP's might rob you, so don't take anything you can't afford to lose. But I can't say that I felt anyone tried to pickpocket me or worse when I was there. The quality was overall a little less than 134, but you still had a good number of highly doable SPs. I never went there after 5, because it seems that it would be quite deserted after the local businesses closed. Anyway, if you enjoy sessions for less than the cost of movie ticket, you won't go wrong at either 134 or 69.
Has anyone been to Casarao on Mondays or Tuesdays. Is it a totally dead?
I arrived in Sao paulo today, and I'll be here for a month, so I don't want to spend Scandallo money just yet.
I usually enjoy Casarao a lot when I go there. I just have never been this early in the week before.I have been to Casarao every day of the week. I have never seen a complexly dead day. It picks up very late like midnight or after but always found plenty of girls to choose irrespective of which day of the week I visited. Keep in mind occasionally some days could be slower than others.
Monger rule #2: Never pay a FL, SW, or Escort in advance unless you enjoy receiving bad service.I agree. I always stuck to "payment after" rule everywhere I mongered but it was very difficult to continue with it in Casarao.
Do you manage to avoid prepayment with all the Casario girls? I am especially talking about 1st session in the club. Takeout and hosting at you place doesn't count.
Most of the Casarao girls insist on pre payment and they refused to go with me when I insisted on payment after the session. I finally relented during my recent trip a month and half ago and prepaid most of the girls at Casarao, which increased the pool of girls to choose from. Luckily all of them delivered good service. I have asked few local men at the club if they prepay and they all said yes. I wonder what the experience of the forum members who visited Casarao. Do you prepay or not at Casarao?
I agree. I always stuck to "payment after" rule everywhere I mongered but it was very difficult to continue with it in Casarao.
Do you manage to avoid prepayment with all the Casario girls? I am especially talking about 1st session in the club. Takeout and hosting at you place doesn't count.
Most of the Casarao girls insist on pre payment and they refused to go with me when I insisted on payment after the session. I finally relented during my recent trip a month and half ago and prepaid most of the girls at Casarao, which increased the pool of girls to choose from. Luckily all of them delivered good service. I have asked few local men at the club if they prepay and they all said yes. I wonder what the experience of the forum members who visited Casarao. Do you prepay or not at Casarao?I posted about my Casarao experience in an earlier post. So What happens if you pay upfront, and there is a disagreement in the room because drunk asses like me don't always make the best decisions at the moment?
BTW I will post about my mulatto garotas threesome, Duplo experience in a scandallo report. Each garota was $600 reais, for the best Illusion of Passion (IOP) lesbians experience meets my Illusion of money (IOM) kkkk.
I found a cutie garota in Casarap late night after a superb visit to scandallo.
We walk to the Casarao Hotel and are standing in the long ass line to get a room. It's 1 am or 2 am there is a waiting system to call your number when a room is ready.
We grab a seat and drink more flirting. We agreed on a price of $400 reais one hour. She offers to receive payment in Pix or credit. She pulls out a small terminal from her purse.
Damn I considered it for a half second then thought if I swipe my card I might not be able to use the card in Prime, Tangar, or Miruna Clinica in the morning. Haha its the only reason I don't swipe thinking about the duplos in the morning. I changed and told her lets do cash, it's better. Our number is called, we are stumbling in the hallway to the rooms.
Off we go to the rooms down a long hallway, downstairs up other stairs, darn another maze of rooms. We reach the room.
In the room, she says to pay upfront. I responded not. For a few minutes, it was a Mexican standoff.
Having been in a similar situation in Tijuanaa Adelitas I offer a compromise. I pull $400 reais, count them out loud, and, together. I ask for her high heels shoe. Place the dinero underneath her high heel shoe on top of the cabinet. She can see the money is there and it's hers when the deed is done.
She agrees great it worked.
This pretty garota drops to her knees for an intense ten minutes of really good BBBJ sloppy deepthroat. She stops mid slurp smiles and says she is too drunk to continue.
She was drunk as hell in the club. We had a bunch of strong drinks. She looks up, sloppy salvia on her face, and tells me to keep the $400 reais she's not charging for anything!
Oh well, a first for me.
Casarao is indeed a strip club and sex show with the husband and and wife team today around 0430 hrs this Saturday morning.
Next.
Performer wife picked a male audience for a free BBBJ sitting on stage while they covered his head and face with a towel. Later, Husband and a third morena garota got doggy styled while the wife was being eaten out by her.
Did a few garota interviews:
Loira gymnast from pernambuco. Indicated 300 reales for 40 min room / 500 reales for the hour. If Takeout, house fee is 150 reales. 1 hour next door room is 100 reales. 800 reales for a 7 hour per noite in my hotel. She ran-off after a few minutes with her gin and redbull drink as she is in a rush to close a deal at 0200 hrs.
My morena Gaby from Matto Grosso with silicon tits was my chosen girl from 0300-0700 hrs. Payment after with 400 reales cash 1 hour room at 100 reales. Room wait at 30 minutes even with 33 rooms on site. Got in room at 0600 hrs. Interesting to see the tower of ladies bags stocked to the ceiling in cubicles (maybe about 50-100 day-bags or purses.
Will Rinse and repeat here as I can get 3 bangs for the buck compared to Scandallo.
Only thing is I love the sushi and ambience and live music and the ability to whisper sweet nothings in and around the many corners of Scandallo without all the noise. They even have a game room with about a dozen pinball machines and a pool table installed early this year or maybe I missed it last year. Well I have to get back to Scandallo before Formula one week next month. Per The Gerente-Alves they open up one Sunday out of the year for Formula One!!
I love 'them both!! Te Amo Brazil!!
Got to go, they are serving Feijoa in Scandallo in the next hour!
Monger rule #2: Never pay a FL, SW, or Escort in advance unless you enjoy receiving bad service.
I've mongered in many places. This rule doesn't apply to every place, location, or WG. Amsterdam brothels? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Dubai? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Bahrain? Payment upfront. High end escorts or porn stars in America or Europe? Payment upfront. No payment upfront? They'll walk right out of your hotel with zero hesitation. Yes, there is a "risk" of a "runner" with payment upfront at your hotel, but the hotel has her passport information so there's no incentive for her to pull that move. And if it's an incall at her place, then that's obviously not going to happen.
Fortunately, on the other hand, there are plenty of places, brothels, and WGs where you can pay after service because it's standard procedure or because of the sheer amount of women. German FKK brothels? Payment afterward. Thailand brothels or thai / asian women in general? Payment afterwards. Dominican Republic, Brazil, Colombia, etc. Payment afterwards.
Also, even if you pay afterwards, you could still get bad service. Every monger knows that.
The takeaway is mongering isn't an exact science, and payment afterwards doesn't guarantee good service and is not always an option.
I've mongered in many places. This rule doesn't apply to every place, location, or WG. Amsterdam brothels? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Dubai? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Bahrain? Payment upfront. High end escorts or porn stars in America or Europe? Payment upfront. No payment upfront? They'll walk right out of your hotel with zero hesitation. Yes, there is a "risk" of a "runner" with payment upfront at your hotel, but the hotel has her passport information so there's no incentive for her to pull that move. And if it's an incall at her place, then that's obviously not going to happen.
Fortunately, on the other hand, there are plenty of places, brothels, and WGs where you can pay after service because it's standard procedure or because of the sheer amount of women. German FKK brothels? Payment afterward. Thailand brothels or thai / asian women in general? Payment afterwards. Dominican Republic, Brazil, Colombia, etc. Payment afterwards.
Also, even if you pay afterwards, you could still get bad service. Every monger knows that.
The takeaway is mongering isn't an exact science, and payment afterwards doesn't guarantee good service and is not always an option.The countries where payment is required upfront are countries where the johns are known to be scammers and will try every scheme not to pay.
This Medellin Centro rat is a big fan of YankeeFan.
Just got back from an enjoyable week in Sao Paulo. Combined sightseeing with hobbying. As I always say upfront in my FPs, I am a bargain basement hobbyist. I seek the lowest cost venues whenever I travel to hobby. I don't want to drink with the SPs, don't want a massage, don't want to spend the night with them, don't want to have dinner with them. I do want to experience as many and varied a group of SPs as I can in a week, spending 15 to 20 minutes in each session, doing my 3 favorite positions (mish, doggy, CG). I enjoy the girl next door type, for example, those who look like the coeds you'd see on a typical campus, and MILF type, for example young (ish) mothers who you might see waiting outside a school to pick up their kids. I intentionally got an AirBnb within walking distance of Edificio 134 (Rua Alameda Baro de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia) as it is the closest one to a reasonable place to stay (Villa Buarque). The others I visited were*Rua dos Andradas 69* and*Rua Santa Ifigenia, 11. I sessioned 11 times, for either 40 or 50 reales a pop, though I was probably being charged the gringo rate. 134 was my favorite. It felt perfectly safe walking over there, at least as late as 8 PM. I must have seen at least 50 SPs spread over the 7 or 8 floors, usually standing on the landing of each floor, or on the steps (there is an elevator to get to the top). Quality was very good, and each time I finished a session, on the way out, I would see one or 2 more I'd like to do (I doubled up twice). The first session, the SP began with a BBBJ, and I was thinking I could keep looking forward to that, but that was the last one, all the others started covered, putting on the cover with their mouth. It is possible you can pay for extras, but my almost*non-existent Portuguese precluded me from doing so. The rooms are very small, here and in 69.
Steve 9696
10-28-23, 18:31
I posted about my Casarao experience in an earlier post. So What happens if you pay upfront, and there is a disagreement in the room because drunk asses like me don't always make the best decisions at the moment?
BTW I will post about my mulatto garotas threesome, Duplo experience in a scandallo report. Each garota was $600 reais, for the best Illusion of Passion (IOP) lesbians experience meets my Illusion of money (IOM) kkkk.
I found a cutie garota in Casarap late night after a superb visit to scandallo.
We walk to the Casarao Hotel and are standing in the long ass line to get a room. It's 1 am or 2 am there is a waiting system to call your number when a room is ready.
We grab a seat and drink more flirting. We agreed on a price of $400 reais one hour. She offers to receive payment in Pix or credit. She pulls out a small terminal from her purse.
Damn I considered it for a half second then thought if I swipe my card I might not be able to use the card in Prime, Tangar, or Miruna Clinica in the morning. Haha its the only reason I don't swipe thinking about the duplos in the morning. I changed and told her lets do cash, it's better. Our number is called, we are stumbling in the hallway to the rooms.
Off we go to the rooms down a long hallway, downstairs up other stairs, darn another maze of rooms. We reach the room.
In the room, she says to pay upfront. I responded not. For a few minutes, it was a Mexican standoff.
Having been in a similar situation in Tijuanaa Adelitas I offer a compromise. I pull $400 reais, count them out loud, and, together. I ask for her high heels shoe. Place the dinero underneath her high heel shoe on top of the cabinet. She can see the money is there and it's hers when the deed is done.
She agrees great it worked.
This pretty garota drops to her knees for an intense ten minutes of really good BBBJ sloppy deepthroat. She stops mid slurp smiles and says she is too drunk to continue.
She was drunk as hell in the club. We had a bunch of strong drinks. She looks up, sloppy salvia on her face, and tells me to keep the $400 reais she's not charging for anything!
Oh well, a first for me.Haha I love this trick with the high heel on the money. She's not running off in one shoe. Clever. I have also done the count it out and place it on the counter move. This seems satisfactory for most girls. Tho I have not had a problem with a handful of pay up front girls this year. As Axel says it varies by country / format.
Gabbarsing
10-30-23, 02:09
Hi guys,
I just got back from my SP trip last week. And yet again I am planning my next one. This time I am planning during December 20th to January 2nd. I am worried if Scandello and / or Casarao will be close or empty during those days? Anyone tried SP during Christmas time for mongering?
Unfortunately I can not shift or change my days. So it will be either I go during Christmas or don't go at all. Please advise.
Hi guys,
I just got back from my SP trip last week. And yet again I am planning my next one. This time I am planning during December 20th to January 2nd. I am worried if Scandello and / or Casarao will be close or empty during those days? Anyone tried SP during Christmas time for mongering?
Unfortunately I can not shift or change my days. So it will be either I go during Christmas or don't go at all. Please advise.Many girls will go home for the holiday. However, I was able to keep entertained last Christmas and New Years in SP. Clinicas still had many options and Casarao had enough. Hopefully I will be able to swing it and go again this year. If I can make it it will be the same days as you.
I was in SP over the holidays last year between 12/16 and 1/1. The boates were closed on NYE. I left on 1/1 so no idea if anything was open on NYD.
Gabbarsing
10-30-23, 17:57
Thanks, let me know if you finalize your plan and we can tag up. There are couple of other mongers who will be in SP / Rio during that time.
Many girls will go home for the holiday. However, I was able to keep entertained last Christmas and New Years in SP. Clinicas still had many options and Casarao had enough. Hopefully I will be able to swing it and go again this year. If I can make it it will be the same days as you.
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Also, even if you pay afterwards, you could still get bad service. Every monger knows that.
The takeaway is mongering isn't an exact science, and payment afterwards doesn't guarantee good service and is not always an option.The high end clincas fit this description.
You can't even talk to the girl in the most expensive one. You basically surrender all your advantage to the girl. The description appears to say pay X amount for the room, and why amount for the girl. This makes me think I have to pay the girl as long as she shows up.
I know in Sharon that I can say I don't want sex and pay the house fee and leave because the wording is different and the girl will ask you before sex.
One way to defeat this system is to form a group from mongers that already have something to contribute and review the girls privately. At the minimum is to review if the picture matches the girl in person.
LionsNTigers
10-31-23, 00:25
So I met a girl in Sao Paulo, actually met her on Fetlife but got her to visit me when I was in Sao Paulo last year on business. She stayed with me for a week, not a working girl at all, just a real submissive ****. Then earlier this year, I was back for a few days and she came into town again and literally tried to fuck me to death over the course of two days. We did every damn thing you can do.
So long story short, we have an ongoing long-distance thing, and she wants me to arrange meetups with strangers, let men use her like the working girl she is.
Caveats are she records it (can hide your face) and you have to work through me to meet her. I also don't need to know your name, but she wants to fuck white guys, preferably professional. No need to speak Portuguese (I don't we communicate entirely through google translate).
If you are going to Sao Paulo, or live there and would like to use my ****, PM me. I'm still working out some details as to what she is comfortable with, but she asked me to lend her out to my friends, and since I don't have any friends down there I trust, I figure a bunch of similarly depraved strangers is the next best thing.
You can do pretty much anything you want except beat her or come in her pussy (she is not on birth control, I generally only fuck her ass).
I will try and pay attention here to PMs, she lives a bit outside Sao Paulo and will travel in, you will have to host. Possible if a few of you guys want to team up on her, she would like that too.
This is the value of gp-guia.net. It is a model of what a website like this one could be.
The high end clincas fit this description.
You can't even talk to the girl in the most expensive one. You basically surrender all your advantage to the girl. The description appears to say pay X amount for the room, and why amount for the girl. This makes me think I have to pay the girl as long as she shows up.
I know in Sharon that I can say I don't want sex and pay the house fee and leave because the wording is different and the girl will ask you before sex.
One way to defeat this system is to form a group from mongers that already have something to contribute and review the girls privately. At the minimum is to review if the picture matches the girl in person.
Axel Heyst
10-31-23, 18:41
I've mongered in many places. This rule doesn't apply to every place, location, or WG.
Amsterdam brothels? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Dubai? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Bahrain? Payment upfront. High end escorts or porn stars in America or Europe? Payment upfront. No payment upfront? They'll walk right out of your hotel with zero hesitation.
Fortunately, on the other hand, there are plenty of places, brothels, and WGs where you can pay after service because it's standard procedure or because of the sheer amount of women. German FKK brothels? Payment afterward. Thailand brothels or thai / asian women in general? Payment afterwards. Dominican Republic, Brazil, Colombia, etc. Payment afterwards.
Also, even if you pay afterwards, you could still get bad service. Every monger knows that.
The takeaway is mongering isn't an exact science, and payment afterwards doesn't guarantee good service and is not always an option.Ok, first off I was very specific to whom I apply the pay after principal.
Monger rule #2: Never pay a FL, SW, or Escort in advance unless you enjoy receiving bad service.Now it is true that a punter can receive bad service anywhere and anytime, so most of us try to play the game to minimize the # of bad performances. Therefore, my suggestion to never pay a FL, SW, and or escort in advance is IMHO (KKK) useful advice. But you can take it or leave it.
It is not like I never pay in advance. In certain venues, for example, high end BKK Soapy Massage parlors I have been paying in advance for decades. 555. In their heyday I used to love these bordellos. The best of them had beautiful Thai girls and the sex was amazing. But you could not go upstairs until you paid for the girl in full. That was the house rule AND I had no theoretical problem paying in advance in this particular venue because I nearly always received great service! But who was responsible for that? The girls or the house? The Soapy girls were all schooled in certain techniques and there seemed like there was a minimum level of service the house would stand by. After that, a girl's personal passion level and the vibe between you would always determine just how good the session was.
And 2nd, I only travel monger to an ever dwindling number of 1st rate, girl friendly, cities and countries like SP and RJ, Brazil. I have no interest in traveling to the Gulf States for pussy. Of course, it would be different if I worked in those locals. Anyway, in Brazil since 2021, I have had only a few escorts ask for money in advance and ditto only a couple of Boate girls asked for money in advance. ALL my "pay in advance" Boate girls were from Casarao, but they all caved on their prepayment plan soon as I said "I pay later". BTW, I tried the ST hotel next door to Casarao 2 times; my 1st and last time. KKK. Too dirty! Not good! Since then I take all my Casarao girls back to my hotel.
Haha I love this trick with the high heel on the money. She's not running off in one shoe. Clever. I have also done the count it out and place it on the counter move. This seems satisfactory for most girls. Tho I have not had a problem with a handful of pay up front girls this year. As Axel says it varies by country / format.Here are my SP & RJ escort stats: roughly 95% of all my escort girls did not ask for money upfront. Of the 10% who did, I can recall a couple of girls were ok with the money placed next to the TV and two girls who abruptly walked out mad as all hell. KKK. I was astonished by the 2 walkouts, but I quickly came to the conclusion that I had just dodged a couple of bad sessions. KKK. So, I then quickly called a favorite girl I already knew for a quick substitution. I asked her what she was doing, she said, "nothing", and 45 minutes later she was in my hotel room in casual torn jeans / a halter top / and in no make up condition and we had a great night together.
So in SP this weekend. Looking for hottest of the hot. How does Scandallo work? Take them back to the hotel or on premise? Is group and it public sex allowed? Any and all info on Scandallo appreciated.
So in SP this weekend. Looking for hottest of the hot. How does Scandallo work? Take them back to the hotel or on premise? Is group and it public sex allowed? Any and all info on Scandallo appreciated.You will find hottest of the hot but will compete, during FORMULA 1 clientele, with high rollers. You can take 1 or more garotas to the in-house hotel. You can take them out to your hotel with exit fee to house if she expects you to be her only client for the night.
I have not seen public sex or group sex in Scandallo, only live music shows on stage, but Go to Casarao Augusta strip club.
They have sex show and strip show Saturday morning and saxophone performer on Wednesday morning before closing time. And perhaps more on other nites. Let us know what happens when you report back to our community.
Garotas in Scandallo will allow public kissing and tit groping (dressed) but my girl refused to seat on my lap and grind since she explained that house security frowns upon it! It strives to be a classy as a hot and proper uppity joint filled with horny rich guys.
Axel Heyst
11-03-23, 16:26
So in SP this weekend. Looking for hottest of the hot. How does Scandallo work? Take them back to the hotel or on premise? Is group and it public sex allowed? Any and all info on Scandallo appreciated.All the necessary information and reports that you might want to take note of relating to Scandallo and other SP Boates is available on this thread and the Reports of Distinction thread. Go back and RTFF! And if you still have some informed questions to ask afterwards, many BM's, including myself, will take the time to answer you.
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Axel Heyst
11-03-23, 18:26
You will find hottest of the hot but will compete, during FORMULA 1 clientele, with high rollers. You can take 1 or more garotas to the in-house hotel. You can take them out to your hotel with exit fee to house if she expects you to be her only client for the night. 2022 F1 week took place while I was in town las year.
On Monday night I did not notice much difference in Scandallo from other Monday nights.
On Tuesday night Bomboa had a great selection of girls and a lot of customers, but not too many. It was a great night!
On Wednesday night a ton of girls showed up at Scandallo and there were a hell of a lot of customers. Full house! Later I went to Casarao around 1 am and it was jam packed too and it had great selection of girls. It was a 2 fer night!
Thurs-Friday-Saturday night I elected to stay home and I had my 2 favorite boate girls come visit me. They told me Scandallo Friday night was standing room only circus and there was an hour or longer wait to get a room. KKK. The only time I went to Scandallo when it was standing room only was for the Wesley Safadao concert and I had made plans to meet a girl there. I found her and we had a grat tine, but the joint was Wall to Wall girls and guys in all 3 bar areas and very difcil to navigate. I choose to take my girl out of there that night rather than wait for a room.
Scandallo was open Sunday night for a final "after the race" night so I went. I never saw the place so dead! KKK. There were only a handful of customers and the girls that showed up were mostly 2nd stringers ie low tier quality girls that I had never seen at Scandallo before. It was a good thing I ran into a familiar face or I would have been up shit's creek. KKK.
You will find hottest of the hot but will compete, during FORMULA 1 clientele, with high rollers. You can take 1 or more garotas to the in-house hotel. You can take them out to your hotel with exit fee to house if she expects you to be her only client for the night.
I have not seen public sex or group sex in Scandallo, only live music shows on stage, but Go to Casarao Augusta strip club.
They have sex show and strip show Saturday morning and saxophone performer on Wednesday morning before closing time. And perhaps more on other nites. Let us know what happens when you report back to our community.
Garotas in Scandallo will allow public kissing and tit groping (dressed) but my girl refused to seat on my lap and grind since she explained that house security frowns upon it! It strives to be a classy as a hot and proper uppity joint filled with horny rich guys.Very helpful. Thank you. Saturday morning at the strip club? That's when I arrive. Is it boy girl?
In your opinion where do I find the hottest of the hot LOL.
Tangara 200 is a 2 minute walk to. A Massage and happy ending place?
Let me tell you, I love hanging out at Tangara. I can have a drink down below at the bar and smell the aroma of food, as the staff cooks todays lunch, for the Garotas and staff to enjoy on their communal free lunch.
Above street level, Staff are quite friendly in the waiting room with complementary water and coffee. You can also see the list of the days working garotas.
Mingling with the garotas just outside the waiting room allows me to interview them. The walled fenced area with park benches and live wood benches is where they take their smoke break in-between presentations and introductions.
But catching them during lunch time around 2 pm would render reduced option availability and performance after a full meal lacking.
So I left and took a 2 minute stroll across the street and ended up having my aching body a 350 reales 1 hour somewhat proper massage with (body to body) happy ending included. But I wanted full GFE service for additional 250 reales to complete my day. (Total=$122 usd for the hour).
This place has new management and reopened in December 2022. They use to have a Barbershop and garota service, NOW the clientele appears to be tourist and upper crust Brazilians.
They still have an outside smoking seating area. Inside bar. Although you will occasionally see a therapist come up and introduced themselves as they emerge from the basement, they have an iPad to select from your choices of real women and / or transgenders. 4 hands service also available.
Although I can't recall the name of these place and YOU are willing to explore, do this and let me know what the address and name of the place.
1. Exit Tangara 200.
2. Turn right and walk a few feet.
3. See the first street across and walk there.
4. Keep on right side and walk a minute until you cross another street Rua Itapina .
5. Keep going straight and continue same side and it will be either 61 or 57? Rua Sao PaulinoYou will see men in and out. Explore and find your dream girl or Trans girl. Will I Repeat? Only if Tangara has piss poor selection and I need my body to body massage!
Thank you. Very helpful.
In your opinion where are the hottest of the hot?
Also is the strip club sex show boy / girl?
Nebulousity
11-03-23, 21:33
Although I can't recall the name of these place and YOU are willing to explore, do this and let me know what the address and name of the place.
1. Exit Tangara 200.
2. Turn right and walk a few feet.
3. See the first street across and walk there.
4. Keep on right side and walk a minute until you cross another street Rua Itapina .
5. Keep going straight and continue same side and it will be either 61 or 57? Rua Sao PaulinoYou will see men in and out. Explore and find your dream girl or Trans girl. Will I Repeat? Only if Tangara has piss poor selection and I need my body to body massage!It sounds like you are describing Sharon Massagens, which is up the hill from Tangara.
It sounds like you are describing Sharon Massagens, which is up the hill from Tangara.That is right Sharon Massagem.
Marcia at the front desk was very helpful and introduced me to the Lady Gerente. She assumed I was one of the Japanese client and was greeted me with"mushi-mushi". Marcia recommended shorty-Giovanna for my needed massage. As my first choice slim morena Stella on the iPad was super busy. If you need real Thai massage-may I suggest going to the source! There is no slip and slide soapy massage here as the venue is no equipped for it like Thailand. Butt the women here are I likey! I think Brazil is the best place to take shelter during the impending dark winter!!
Thanks.
This may have been asked tons of times before, but in SP, for 3 days the best options could be?
1. Scandallo.
2 other boates.
3 Clinicas / Massages.
.Thanks for the responses, but I am still confused a little and ask for your wisdom, where do you think I'll find the prettiest girls, I like young and preffer natural, no silicona, slim or normal fit. I think there are more options in Scandallo, with what I've read lots of girls to choose from, but also If you look at girls photos from some of the clinicas, they look already gorgeus, so could it be better in scandallo? ,may be too much photoshop? . I'll have only two days at SP.
Nebulousity
11-04-23, 11:58
Thanks for the responses, but I am still confused a little and ask for your wisdom, where do you think I'll find the prettiest girls, I like young and preffer natural, no silicona, slim or normal fit. I think there are more options in Scandallo, with what I've read lots of girls to choose from, but also If you look at girls photos from some of the clinicas, they look already gorgeus, so could it be better in scandallo? ,may be too much photoshop? . I'll have only two days at SP.Every venue is going to have a mix, so if you have a limited time, the best option is to start with Clinicas, then go to Scandallo, then go to Casarao. The high end tablet Clinicas (Taj Mahal, Sharon, Baronesas) start as early as 10 AM or 11 AM, the middle tier Clinicas (Prime, Tangara, Miruna, Abobora) get going closer to 2 PM, Scandallo picks up around 10 PM (though it's fun to arrive earlier for dinner), and Casarao around 12 midnight. Among these options you will find what you're looking for. Use Uber between each venue for time efficiency and it's possible (and a blast) to follow this schedule for a few days straight.
Thanks for the responses, but I am still confused a little and ask for your wisdom, where do you think I'll find the prettiest girls, I like young and preffer natural, no silicona, slim or normal fit. I think there are more options in Scandallo, with what I've read lots of girls to choose from, but also If you look at girls photos from some of the clinicas, they look already gorgeus, so could it be better in scandallo? ,may be too much photoshop? . I'll have only two days at SP.I am guessing you are talking about the high-end clinicas since that maybe the ones that you have access to photos.
I assume you have read Alex's review. The first one you can try is Palms. You will be limited once you apply all your conditions. You can ask the manager to filter them out. They are generally older though. Many have implants when I visited.
Some girls can look a little better than photos (once for me), and some can look much worst (multiple times for me). One happened at Lotus. She came in wearing a worn out lingerie bodysuit which made her look like someone I would see in the lineup in regular clinicas. That is the effect of photo. So among Alex and me, this place is 0 to 2 while Palms is 2 to 0. I would have declined the sex if I was given the choice like the other clincas. The room I had at Lotus basically is similar to regular clinica size but better equipped. It's not that much better to command the price they are charging.
It depends on the nights, Scandallo will be your best option. Casarao will be your last resort.
To me, this one in photo looks the same or better in person.
To me, this one in photo looks the same or better in person.She is perfect.
Mush Elvii
11-06-23, 17:23
In SP this week, there's bunch of SA Garotas I got on speed dial currently, but I have to go to Scandalo / Casarao in between those dates, so if anyone around and doesn't mind hanging out a bit together over there, then feel free to reach out. I'm just happy to be out here enjoying the sun and weather compare to what is happening back home.
DreamCarnarvon
11-07-23, 12:01
Loving the current daytime weather in SP, no too hot not too cold. My first report on a photoacompanhantes girl and hopefully with many to come. Hope these reports will help you guys who are interested in PA. These girls all have positive reliable reviews on GP-Guia, which I had combed through extensively.
Reached out to several photoacompanhantes providers on Sunday and only 2 replied back. Luana Prado responded the quickest so scheduled with her for one hour at her designed motel, M Hotel in zona leste close to the red line metro station Artur Alvim. Rooms there are R50 for one hour. Rooms with AC are R60.
Luana arrived about 10 minutes late, very acceptable. Says she's 19, light morena, 5'5, very beautiful (8/10) matches with photos. A bit thicker than in the photos and for those of you who loves BBW, she's perfect. Big heavy squishy pair of melon sized titties and a big wide load booty. She's a Bahiana with a very friendly extroverted personally. Initially however she did seem to be a bit cold and distant (perhaps because I am a gringo) but quickly warmed up to me after I cracked some jokes. For those of you who don't speak portuguese, I don't think it will be a problem with her as she is quite talkative. Once she gets going she a ton of fun. Allowed kissing DFK whenever I wanted, BBBJ with good pressure. Not sure if she was just craving sex or what but the BJ could of been longer. She hopped on me cowgirl and went to work jumping on dick with gusto and shortly afterwards orgasmed. She's got a very sensitive pussy. The vision of her big fat titties swing in my face was absolutely amazing! Ate her pussy and ass like there was no tomorrow and she absolutely loved every second. She's got a moan of a kitty cat, low and sexy. She loves being fucked hard and fast and having her titties squeezed hard at the same time. Twerked on my face and with my dick in her pussy in doggy. She loves talking dirty and it was a lot of fun going back and forth with her, making her beg for my cum. Her service is unrushed and not once did she check the time during the session. I highly recommend her and will repeat with her myself if time allows. Here in Brazil, finding the women is not problem. The problem is not having enough time to fuck them all so one has to be choosy.
Her PA ad: / acompanhantes / sao-paulo / zona-leste / ninfetinha-mignon-para-homens-de-bom-gosto-ID-fh2 h6 (just add the site's address in the front).
Her GP-guia: / viewtopic. Php? F=2&t=252516&p=2909939 (just add the site's address in the front).
DreamCarnarvon
11-07-23, 12:14
Luana's price:
R120 for one hour with one nut.
R150 for one hour with massage, 2 nuts, and joined shower.
R200 for one hour with all above + anal.
R230 with all above + CIM and cum on tits.
I was there Sunday night, was packed at 8 pm but people left early.
I was kinda disappointed this year with the quality. Usually during F1 week I see some 10's come out and this year they were none. Think most now just go on to sites instead like MP and put in their profile that they are not GP but want money to meet them LOL. Last year there was 2 hour wait for rooms, this year maybe only 1 hour. F1 will be in Las Vegas in 2 weeks so most Euro mongers probably rather go to that since there are plenty of pros in Vegas.
More importantly, I took out 3 girls that were solid 9's and paid 1,500 each so no gringo F1 price. Some rather go out than wait for rooms also. I will be there next year!
2022 F1 week took place while I was in town las year.
On Monday night I did not notice much difference in Scandallo from other Monday nights.
On Tuesday night Bomboa had a great selection of girls and a lot of customers, but not too many. It was a great night!
On Wednesday night a ton of girls showed up at Scandallo and there were a hell of a lot of customers. Full house! Later I went to Casarao around 1 am and it was jam packed too and it had great selection of girls. It was a 2 fer night!.
DreamCarnarvon
11-09-23, 02:10
One more PA girl. This time is a GND type Sereia. Responded quickly to my messages and we set up an one hour session at her own place at 1130. Her apt is actually located very south of zona sul, near the Autódromo. I took the metro to Autódromo station and then took an Uber. On this day, she received me without any makeup so she looked less glamourous than her PA photos. She is such a cutie, soft spoken, and kinda quiet. Some blemishes on her face which makes her look even more like a GND. She's white with a in shape body, small firm natural titties and a small round bunda. We conversed a bit to break the ice. She told me she is from Minerais Gerais and she had just returned from there last night. Took my shower and she waited for me in her bed in a pink knee height dress. Disclaimer: she does not kiss, not even for extra. She doesn't do anal either. She started with some BBBJ, which was well exacuted with good amount of drool. Allows cunnilingus. She's got a really fat pussy, like, really fat! Doesn't restrict positions and can take it without any complaints. She doesn't talk much but was moaning like a kitty cat, soft and sexy in response to sexual penetration. Her phone was going off throughout the session and she only looked at it once briefly. I really wanted to talk to her some more but it seemed like there was already another client waiting for her. She charges R300 for one hour, R200 for 30 minutes. Also attends in motel. She would be a repeat if she lived closer to me.
Her PA ad: / acompanhantes / sao-paulo / carinhosa-e-safadinha-delicia-morena-do-corpo-escultural-ID-6 n75 n (just add the site's address in the front).
Her Gp-guia: / viewtopic. Php?=247383 (just add the site's address in the front).
DreamCarnarvon
11-09-23, 04:05
Anyone know is there a free or by payment place (clinic or hospital) that I can get tested for HIV and other STDs here in Sao Paulo? Need to know urgently.
Also would like info on place where they do sperm count tests.
I came to brasil on Monday, was tired but I get into Scandallo, as mentioned before the place is great, looks luxury, girls dress and make up like a cocktail party, but on Monday to be true there were very few attractive girls, maybe because they worked the day before cause the F1 event. For my taste, there were only l 4 good looking girls, 2 were occupied, so I talk to the other two, one was charging 1500 Rs (she said we can negotiate) and the other 1000 Rs, also willing to negotiatie so I took her very nice brunette, skinny. From the reports I read I had the feeling like Scandallo was maybe overated, so I decided to return on Wednesday, it was better, many girls close to a hundred, but again for me, the average girl I won't' say are pretty but OK. , anyway this time I found around 10 having a very good looking, most of the occupied, and some of them where asking to 2000, which always is negotiable, at the end I did not pick any girl, but the place claim back its respect, so far the best place in Brazil for me.
On Tuesday I went to Casaro, from 10 pm to 1 am, I recommend stay away from there, valueless place, at least for me, maybe 1 or 2 girls are near to a 7, but in average not a good place, or maybe was also because onTuesday there is less activity.
Arrived at Scandallo around 10:30 pm. Cost 500 reais to enter but it all can be used on food and drink. Place packed with over 100 girls and maybe a little less than half of guys. Basically every type of look Brazil has to offer in this place. Depending on your rating scale, your 8-10 probably was there. True, there are a lot of normal looking girls, next door types so doing expect to have every girl be a runway model or Instagram model.
I stay until nearly 5 in the morning fucking, observing, and chatting with girls. I'm not trying to exaggerate or boast but I could rarely just sit or stand anywhere because downstairs when you enter when a girl was not trying talk to me and use their power of female persuasion to try to get me upstairs ad they are master seductress. I speak a very weak intermiate level of Portuguese but a good amount speak English. The antics of the night ranged from girls flashing me, trying to put their hands down my pants, a lot of kisses initiated by them. Convos about the worse Brazilians (consensus was cariocas LOL), to which county has the best looking women (a few of the girls heard Dubai does which I had to tell them they can't compete with Brasilian women).
Anyway, session with two girls in house. One with 26 year old enhanced statuesque beauty from Minea Gerais. I'm a curves guy and I could see her ass from the front through a modest dress so I had to scoop her. She wanted to 1500 but negotiate it down to 800 for an hour. She and many others usually were in pairs and they always tried to negotiate for there lesser looking friends to join so if guys like 3 somes there is definitely a lot of bargaining opportunity there. Sex was good nothing special besides the brasileira way of wanting to fuck your brains out. Definitely no rush probably could of stayed in there with her for 2 hours because we definitely went over the hour. Two nuts, shower, bought her some food as my way of tipping her and using the 500 I spent to enter. Room cost an additional 300 and paid after the session. Oh, and she mentioned she was going to work in Campinas on Friday at Fazendinha. She said Scandallo is by far the better club but it makes me interested to see what is in Campinas.
Second girl was just a why not before I leave. It was around 3:30 and her and her friend approached me so I just said why not. 21 year old red hair with enhanced ass and breast from Sao Paulo. Super soft bubble butt with great pussy. Met my wet, warm and tightness for great vagina. 2 nuts, shower and then home in an Uber.
Great place. Be prepared to spend. If you are into the so called elegant, classy look venue with girls dressed to match you will enjoy Scandallo. There's always the debate if you can find girls of same quality in other venues (other clubs, CLínicas, online) the answer is yes but takes more work. This is one stop shopping to find something you really desire. I would like it more if they were walking around naked like FKKs or in bikinis like 4 x 4 but really don't have any complaints.
Anyway, session with two girls in house. One with 26 year old enhanced statuesque beauty from Minea Gerais. I'm a curves guy and I could see her ass from the front through a modest dress so I had to scoop her. Second girl was just a why not before I leave. It was around 3:30 and her and her friend approached me so I just said why not. 21 year old red hair with enhanced ass and breast from Sao Paulo. Super soft bubble butt with great pussy. Them hind parts are phat! Hahaha! You got damn right you can see that there bubble from the front. Front, back, sides, and all the way around! LMFAO! I think that comment you made was about the first girl, and the pics look to be from the second one (redhead), but no matter. Same set of facts LOL! Well, did she try to upcharge for photos? I've found the Brasilieras to be pretty open to photos relative to the girls from other countries, particular those outside of Latin America.
There's always the debate if you can find girls of same quality in other venues (other clubs, CLnicas, online) the answer is yes but takes more work. This is one stop shopping to find something you really desire.That's a Scandallo girl on the photos?
Maybe it's a matter of likes, lots of guys here enjoy Casarao.
I don't like Casarao girls. Some girls from Bomboa and Cafe Photo told me they would never work in Casarao.
The area has heavy vibes.
On Tuesday I went to Casaro, from 10 pm to 1 am, I recommend stay away from there, valueless place, at least for me, maybe 1 or 2 girls are near to a 7, but in average not a good place, or maybe was also because onTuesday there is less activity.
Here a taxi tour in downtown Buenos Aires. Street walkers mostly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVk-wHurPBw
Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).
ClinicaVIP
11-11-23, 02:54
Check out the best massage clinic in Sao Paulo I was there and I recommend it to anyone going to So Paulo.
https://clinicavip.com.br
Confira tambem o melhor site de comandantes do ABC.
https://pirigueti.com.br
The Critic
11-11-23, 06:11
Arrived at Scandallo around 10:30 pm. Cost 500 reais to enter but it all can be used on food and drink. Place packed with over 100 girls and maybe a little less than half of guys. Basically every type of look Brazil has to offer in this place. Depending on your rating scale, your 8-10 probably was there. True, there are a lot of normal looking girls, next door types so doing expect to have every girl be a runway model or Instagram model.Thanks for sharing your experiences. Good info. Provided.
SocratesNY
11-11-23, 08:16
I haven't written many reports in the last year, even though I still visit Sao Paulo 4-6 times a year, as it is basically the same set of good to great experiences. A couple of negative experiences the last couple of trips has made me feel that perhaps my visits to Brazil have plateaued or I've let my guard down to some extent.
However, my most recently completed trip was perhaps my best one to date. A few things probably made this trip more enjoyable. I was not working much this trip so I was able to relax more. I was hanging out with some good friends, with like-minded tastes and sensibilities. I spent time with only new girls on this trip (no repeats), which is the first time this has happened since my inaugural trip to Brazil. And finally, by some weird coincidence, all the girls I spent time with were Cariocas!
I totally dig the relaxed and chill vibe of the Cariocas, but I don't generally go for the typical Carioca look. The majority of girls (excluding Paluistas) that I've been with in Brazil were from Minas Gerais, Santa Catarina or Rio Grande do Sul. This trip, I was lucky to find a lot of light skinned Cariocas or those that have the Minas Gerais or Southern Brazilian look.
Every one of my meetings ended up being a home run, and a couple I would consider grand slams! Even though I like variety and usually set aside half of my trip to see new girls, I would be content to repeat with every one of the girls I met on this trip when I next return to Brazil.
I had planned this trip back in October 2022 with a friend to visit SP for F1 week. Our SP trip eventually turned into a SP & RJ trip, where we got to sample a bit of each city. I arrived in the middle of the week hoping to check out the talent at Scandallo during F1 week. I've heard that the club gets packed to the gills with girls coming in from all over Brazil, South America and overseas.
I was told that 650+ girls showed up on Tuesday, 950+ on Wednesday, and 900+ on Thursday by my favorite waiter and management at the club. I personally was there with a friend on Wednesday and Thursday night from 10 pm until 2-3 am and can concur on those numbers. I even counted the crowd from the balcony of the 2nd floor VIP area on Thursday and stopped counting after reaching 500 in the disco area. Once you add in girls at the outside patio, restaurant and in rooms, that's easily 900+. Every part of the club was open, including the back section of the outdoor patio.
As you can imagine, with such a big crowd, it can be quite hectic. It was difficult to move in the disco area, and sometimes even in the outdoor patio area. I was glad we had a table reserved in both the disco and patio area so we didn't need to stand around, which a lot of the guys had to do. While watching all the girls parade by, my friends and I kept thinking and saying two phrases. "Sensory Overload" and "Decision Paralysis"!
I've heard that many UTR girls, pink book girls and high end sugar babies and GDP come to Scandallo to work during F1 week. I was expecting to see a lot more 9's and almost 10's than normal. Although I did see more 9's and almost 10's than usual, it was probably only 1. 5 to 2 x the norm, which was a bit disappointing, as there were 3 to 5 x as many girls when compared to a typical weekday. For my tastes, most of the "extra" girls were in the 6's to 8's category so they didn't interest me too much. I also think a lot of the higher end talent has filtered to private F1 parties. Some friends and I went to some civilian clubs over the weekend and found out that many of these private F1 parties soaked up so much clientele, that these civilian clubs closed their doors over the weekend due to a lack of interest / patronage. And we are talking about big name places like Sutton. Other civilian clubs were closed as they rented out their space for these private F1 parties. Heard from a friend that Bagatelle had a bigger after hours party than usual, filled with really hot upscale sugars, models and pink book girls.
Speaking of inflated F1 week pricing, I think the girls were probably disappointed at the turnout of the male clientele at Scandallo. If there were 3-5 x as many girls as usual, there were probably only 2 x as many guys as usual in the club when I was there. The girl to guy ratio was probably 4 to 5:1. I was staying at a hotel that many of the F1 team was staying at and the hotel GM informed me that there were plenty of tickets available when I inquired about tickets for a friend. He said it was due to Red Bull having already clinched the cup so a lot of tickets are being resold. The season being "over" and perhaps F1 fans preferring to go visit Vegas, which is more glitzy, for the next race, probably lessened the crowd in Scandallo as well. Due to the above, I did not experience the expected double or triple pricing I've been told is the norm from past F1 weeks at Scandallo. The top girls did start off at R2000 to R3000 for an hour and R3000 to R6000 for overnight. My friends and I were able to easily negotiate hot tier 1 girls down to R800 to R1000 for an hour and R1500 to R2000 for an overnight, which was the norm during the summer. We also don't really negotiate too hard, so perhaps a "haggler" can get them down even more.
I also noticed that a few of the really popular Scandallo girls weren't around. I presume they were pre-booked by their regulars. I also saw other popular regular Scandallo girls go long stretches without any clients or interest. I am not sure if the locals were looking to sample the imported goods or that they balked at those normally popular girls asking for too much. For F1 week, it felt like a buyer's market.
The first girl I took on Wednesday at Scandallo wasn't one of the top 5 hottest girls I saw in the club. I definitely had "decision paralysis" and by the time I decided to go after one of them, they had either disappeared or were occupied with guys. I "settled" for a solid 8. 5 by the name of "be", which I eventually upgraded to a 9 when I realized she had an amazing natural rack. "be" was from Cabo Frio in Rio de Janeiro and was working in SP for 2 weeks. Great personality and good English skills as well. She started at R4000 for an overnight, but quickly came down to R2000, and was open to some of my requested extras / fetishes. She had amazing stamina and was disappointed when I told her she had to go in the morning as I had some meetings to get ready for. Normally, an easy repeat, but other girls I met on this trip were even more amazing.
I had decision paralysis once again on Thursday. Once 2 am rolled around and my wingman called it a night, I figure I would have to "settle" a second night in a row. Then a pretty redhead that was on the top of my list freed up and I chatted her up. Unfortunately, she didn't speak a lick of English and I was too tired (partially due to "be" keeping me up all night) to try to speak and think in my Portuanol and use Google Translate. She offered to find an English speaking friend of hers and brought over another girl that I had been eyeing earlier but thought had vanished. Her friend "J" looks like a taller and edgier Natalie Portman due to her tattoos. She spoke great English and was also from Barra in Rio de Janeiro, but had been working in SP for a few months. We found out we had the same taste in music and politics and we quickly settled on R1500 for overnight until the morning. "J" was a freak in the sack and insatiable. We took power naps between each romp and she stayed way past our agreed time. Until 5 pm when I had to send her off so I could get ready for dinner with my friends and my weekend date. "J" is a passionate Brazilian energizer bunny in the sack and provides chill and relaxing company when not in the heat of passion. She told me she is also a professional masseuse and gave me an amazing neck and shoulder massage while we smoked some of her weed on the balcony of my hotel room. I definitely plan to repeat with her on my next trip.
For the weekend, I had hedged myself against potential inflated F1 week pricing by having a prearranged date with a girl named "L", whom I met in Scandallo earlier this year at normal Scandallo overnight pricing. She was the highlight of my trip. As "L" is a professional dancer, she has your typical lithe flexible ballerina body. We tried so many new positions that were only possible due to her flexibility and strong core. As she is a Carioca, she is very chill and has a bohemian attitude. She is very charismatic and my friends said she was the life of the party. We drank, ate at nice places, smoked weed, danced in clubs and fucked most of the weekend. I also didn't repeat a past mistake by keeping a girl for too long. I've found that after 1. 5 to 2 days, they get too comfortable with you and might not try as hard or or take things for granted. And some of the more negative "GF" tendencies start to show. I plan to see "L" again in her hometown of Rio de Janeiro when I return to Brazil.
I then went to RJ for a few days to meet my friend and had a fun time there as well. I'll write my RJ experiences in that forum.
A few random thoughts and musings.
On my last night in RJ, I did a very crazy termas / club crawl through almost all the tier 1 termas and clubs in one night. My friend and I started the night at Monte Carlo, as it was near our hotel in Copa. We then went to 4 x4 to meet girls we've seen before who said they would be working there that night. My girl flaked and didn't show up for work, his girl didn't and they went to the room with her. Rather than settle for one of the other girls, I decided to go check out Solarium, then Centaurus while he was busy getting his freak on. We would meet up at MABs when he finished. After checking out MABs, my friend went to bed and I went to Marrakech and finally Dolce Vita. I visited the last 4 termas / clubs plus MABs within a span of 2 hours!
This whirlwind of a RJ terma / club tour made me realize why I love Scandallo so much. Each RJ termas and club is so small that you can check out all the talent within 10-20 minutes. I can basically check out most of the tier 1 places in RJ in 2-3 hours and that's including travel time! When you spend 2-3 hours in Scandallo, you are barely scratching the surface! I can easily spend the whole evening at Scandallo without being bored, especially when accompanied by friends. In Scandallo, I can eat a high quality meal at a nice restaurant, smoke a cuban cigar, take my time interacting with the 100-200+ girls, dance with them in the disco, make out on the couches, chat in a quiet setting with good lighting in the outdoor patio when vetting them, etc. There is enough talent that I can take a girl to a room and then come back and be certain there will be another that would interest me should I find the energy for seconds. Or even thirds!
I discovered that there were many professional massage parlors and spas that give great massages at Thailand-like prices in Brazil. Many of the places are very posh as well. Previously, I've been lazy and getting them at trumped up prices at the hotel spa. I definitely plan to get regular massages outside of the hotel more often in Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro in the future.
A majority of the girls I saw on this trip (both in SP and RJ) either negotiated or preferred to take USD over reals. And they gave me a 5:1 exchange rate, when the exchange rate was 4. 90:1.
A Casa do Porco continues to shine, and their new tasting menu was amazing. For the price, it's easily one of the best values for high end dining in Sao Paulo. It's no wonder they are fully booked months in advance. Luckily, they do save some tables for walk-ins to be more accessible to the public. But be prepared for a 45 min to 2 hour wait should you go that route.
My new favorite Omakase is Huto in Moema. The one knock I have against their Omakase is that Uni, which is usually a "showcase" piece, wasn't part of their Omakase menu and had to be done as an a la carte addition.
After seeing so many IGs of girls at Banana Cafe, I finally paid the place a visit. They have an amazing selection of drinks and very yummy desserts. I'the definitely go back.
Mahau Bar is a great place for drinking and dancing. Great DJ sets of EDM, House, Hip-Hop, etc. Nice outdoor area too when you want to take a break from the high energy of the club area. Lots of beautiful people so it's a good place to pick up civilians if you have game. A couple of girls actually flirted and hit on my date.
The-Edge was a huge disappointment. Meh drinks, dark as hell, crappy DJs. Left without using up our consumption. It was that bad.
Seen Restaurant and Bar in Hotel Tivoli. Their mixologists continue to impress with innovative and complex tasting drinks. All done with flair. Good place for beautiful watching too. Same goes for the hotel lobby bar and lobby area.
My new favorite Brazilian churrascaria is Assador Rio's in RJ. Great pricing, so many high end cuts, everything brought to the table (sides, sauces, appetizers, etc.), so many extras included. They kept feeding us food and drinks, as if they didn't want us to leave! Also a great view of the water in the Flamengo area.
My new favorite boteco is Boteco Belmonte in Ipanema. Yummy tapas like apps for sharing, big portions, delicious drinks, good view, great vibe.
Sao Paulo's nickname of "Terra the Garoa" definitely applied during my visit. There was an intense burst of wind and rain on Friday that knocked out our F1 viewing plans in the afternoon. It also did so much damage to Ibirapuera Park (fallen trees, etc.) that they closed the WHOLE PARK on Saturday when we tried to visit!
CGH / Congonhas is a very efficient airport. Was able to breeze through both arriving and departing on my way to and from Rio de Janeiro. I can't say the same about GOL though. Arrived almost 2 hours before my domestic flight at the premium check-in area and I saw a line 40 deep. After almost an hour in line, there were still 20+ people ahead of me.
I had to do the "asshole Gringo" routine and go up to the front and ask why there is such a long delay, as I've been in this line for almost an hour and I'm going to miss my flight! Then I spent almost 30 minutes arguing / debating them about the luggage allowance afforded me due to my airline loyalty status. I had to speak to two supervisors before they tagged my luggage without extra charge. Thankfully, the luggage system is very efficient in CGH and my luggage made it on the plane even though it was only 32 minutes before departure. Security was also great as I was able to go from the check-in counter to the gate in under 11 minutes.
What I learned from that experience: 1) checked bag cutoff is not 60 minutes, but 30 minutes for domestic Brazilian flights 2) GOL's IT is so bad it's like it's maintained by preschoolers 3) I am going to fly with LATAM for domestic Brazilian flights in the future, even though I have elite status with a GOL partner.
Uber package delivery is amazing! A couple of the Cariocas left things at my hotel and they suggested I use Uber to send it back to them. It was cheap (cheaper than regular Uber), quick (as they are usually motorbikes and can weave in and out of traffic) and reliable (as you can track it and so can the recipient).
I heard good things about Fazendiha in Campinas from multiple girls and local guys at Scandallo. One guy tells me he usually flies into Campinas from Rio de Janeiro and spends the day in the club before going to Sao Paulo. Sounds ingenious as it cuts down the travel time to the club from Sao Paulo by half! I might try that on my next trip!
Yes sir. Two girls picture taken in Scandallo during the sessions.
That's a Scandallo girl on the photos?.
You are right about the facts LOL. They both can be seen from the front LOL. The red head walked right next to me while talking to another girl and did a spin around move so I can see her ass LOL. It worked.
Neither of them charged for pics. They were both happy and dancing before and after the session. I just asked if I can take a picture and they were cool. Just cover up the tatts.
Them hind parts are phat! Hahaha! You got damn right you can see that there bubble from the front. Front, back, sides, and all the way around! LMFAO! I think that comment you made was about the first girl, and the pics look to be from the second one (redhead), but no matter. Same set of facts LOL! Well, did she try to upcharge for photos? I've found the Brasilieras to be pretty open to photos relative to the girls from other countries, particular those outside of Latin America.
Another visit to SP Scandalo before the pricey F1 week started. I stayed in the Villa Mariana area and took an Uber to Moema. The Cozzy Suites used facial recognition to open the doors of the hotel. There is a stupid digital PIN code for the room. At night my drunk, tired ass cannot remember another fking pin code. I figured out how to use the automated laundry in the building with a lot of help.
I spent 99 percent of the time in Scandalo rooms, Mooema clinicas Tangara first floor rooms, Prime rooms and a couple of porno star repeats. Yeah that cleaning guy at Tangar is like JJ "Dynamite" walker. So never needed to bring garota back to the room. I slept peacefully and well without the airplane noises from CGH. And could stream the NFL games in peace. This trip a few new experiences for me. Scandalo rocks as always Tues-Thurs. I arrived at 7 pm and only did threesomes with very attractive light skin morenas for $700 reais each and mixed Asian cuties. These garotas illusion of passion (IoP) was off the charts as it met my illusion of money (IoM) . Later I learned the gossip and jealousy of garotas in scandalo runs deep.
I made sure to do a mini-test run of a threesome before going upstairs. We sit in the last row of the round tables in the disco area across from the bathrooms, near the back barI got the waiters to clear a table for us while grabbing three chairs. There is a lot of garotas traffic walking past as a nice viewing spot for talent. The lightskin morena and I deep French kiss first, then switch to DFK the mixed Asian girl, then I gently push their heads together for them to deep sloppy tongue kiss, lesbian style, then I join in kissing and tonguing both of them same time. All three of us openly tongue fucking, kissing threesome, uninhibited and I was obnoxious about it. If you saw us in action I didn't care, haha I mean jajaja or kkkk whatever. Then I took a swig of my cognac with ice. Slide the cold ice into the trio kissing session, for some " iceballing" action. Then told each garotas in portospanish that's what I want when we go upstairs. I'm going to dump a good size cum load to their eager open tongues, and they going to snowball my leche between them porno style. They agreed, and off we went upstairs with our drinks. Think I did 3 or four threesomes each night Tues-Thur. I should of told the chicas to wipe off the cheapass red lipstick first. I was covered in stupid red lipstick all over. , all night.
During the scandalo threesome kissing session occasionally a young blonde branca would casually come over with the desire to join in the threeway kissing fun. Had to turn her away for the next time.
At Prime and Miruna this time around I encouraged the two garotas to relax and do whatever they wanted during our hour or two hour four hands session. If they want to get lit, fine with me cause I was happy with cognac and ice. They can get lit together. That move amped up the threesome experience. I fondly remember the two garotas from Prime, she had her eyes that would roll up, with a satisfying grin on her face as she enjoyed licking, erotic slurping each of my leche spurts. She is scooping up the gob of leche from my dick with her tongue, sliding into the open mouth of the other chica, then she grabs the chicas mouth to bring in close, so her tongue does not miss a drop. Then she slowly licks the garotas face with my leche. They do each for a nasty leche facial. One garota swallowed as the other spit leftover leche down her throat. She held the chica head in her hands as she aims the leche spit to hit the backside of the chica throat. No gagging, no retching, nothing except two smiling faces grinning satisfied with leche covered faces, tongues and lips. Damn lit garotas pros are the bomb. Those porto duolingo lessons are paying off, easier to talk with garotas exactly what in a porno style session. I extend the session for another hour to recover, build up more leche and go another porno round.
...My new favorite boteco is Boteco Belmonte in Ipanema. Yummy tapas like apps for sharing, big portions, delicious drinks, good view, great vibe....I happened to frequent this restaurant in Lapa. Now I just learned that it has many locations after reading your post. A regular likes cocktail so we went to this place after sex. The waiter walked around serving fresh bakery items on the tray, almost like a dim sum style. They are in an old but well maintained building like many others around Lapa. Bar Original in Meoma has similar quality.
I think you can always get a seat if you go to A Casa do Porco early before noon or late at night after 10:30 because that is my schedule. Or you can grab a sandwich from the window if you don't want to wait. The food presentation is excellent. I feel this place is very touristy and has many foreigners visiting. They also charge higher service fee, like many other places. Have you tried Bar the Dona Ona just near by. I like the food there.
I think any airline could have similar problem. Recently, I had to stand in line for more than 5 hours until 4AM waiting for the airline to get me a new flight because the flight was cancelled. The flight before that, one hour flight took 2 hours in the air. I was sleeping because before this I was my on red-eye flight. I woke up when it landed after 2 hours, I suspected that it was CGH and, not knowing why, I thought I was dreaming. But indeed it was CGH, the flight could not land due to weather so it returned. My last 3 flights out of GRU, 2 were cancelled and I missed one due to traffic and short connection time. Two times I bought another ticket at the airport counter to get on another flight the same day.
MasterOfNone
11-13-23, 04:44
Would appreciate any feedback gentlemen.
I have visited Brazil about 4 times now but always Rio. While I do come for play I GREATLY enjoy the easy vibe of Rio. The plan is to head back over in a few weeks but thinking of giving SP a try because of the storied I have heard about Scandello being the best.
I have gone through the threads here and I see great and so so reviews on Scandello.
So is it worth it for me to give up the laid back Rio vibe and visit SP and Scandello this trip?
Again, any feedback is appreciated.
The Critic
11-13-23, 07:23
I haven't written many reports in the last year, even though I still visit Sao Paulo 4-6 times a year, as it is basically the same set of good to great experiences. A couple of negative experiences the last couple of trips has made me feel that perhaps my visits to Brazil have plateaued or I've let my guard down to some extent.
Another visit to SP Scandalo before the pricey F1 week started. I stayed in the Villa Mariana area and took an Uber to Moema.Good reports. Thanks for sharing. Look forward to reading future reports.
Would appreciate any feedback gentlemen...It's worth it if you have never been. It's still YMMV, so it's better to keep a lower expectation.
Gigi Buffon
11-13-23, 15:25
I haven't written many reports in the last year, even though I still visit Sao Paulo 4-6 times a year, as it is basically the same set of good to great experiences. A couple of negative experiences the last couple of trips has made me feel that perhaps my visits to Brazil have plateaued or I've let my guard down to some extent.
However, my most recently completed trip was perhaps my best one to date. A few things probably made this trip more enjoyable. I was not working much this trip so I was able to relax more. I was hanging out with some good friends, with like-minded tastes and sensibilities. I spent time with only new girls on this trip (no repeats), which is the first time this has happened since my inaugural trip to Brazil. And finally, by some weird coincidence, all the girls I spent time with were Cariocas!
I totally dig the relaxed and chill vibe of the Cariocas, but I don't generally go for the typical Carioca look. The majority of girls (excluding Paluistas) that I've been with in Brazil were from Minas Gerais, Santa Catarina or Rio Grande do Sul. This trip, I was lucky to find a lot of light skinned Cariocas or those that have the Minas Gerais or Southern Brazilian look.There is a Boteco Belmonte in Vila Mariana (Sampa) owned by same people, although does not compete with views of Ipanema. Fully agree with Hato, by far one of my favorites in Sampa.
Now you can see the night trip from Sao Paulo downtown to Scandallo by Uber, so you can see how SP really looks like at night.
Much better than google street view, it also has the music chosen by the cab driver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOUzwcQ7Z5
Would appreciate any feedback gentlemen.
I have visited Brazil about 4 times now but always Rio. While I do come for play I GREATLY enjoy the easy vibe of Rio. The plan is to head back over in a few weeks but thinking of giving SP a try because of the storied I have heard about Scandello being the best.
I have gone through the threads here and I see great and so so reviews on Scandello.
So is it worth it for me to give up the laid back Rio vibe and visit SP and Scandello this trip?
Again, any feedback is appreciated.
Here the link. A letter was missing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOUzwcQ7Z5w
Now you can see the night trip from Sao Paulo downtown to Scandallo by Uber, so you can see how SP really looks like at night.
Much better than google street view, it also has the music chosen by the cab driver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOUzwcQ7Z5
I haven't written many reports in the last year, even though I still visit Sao Paulo 4-6 times a year, as it is basically the same set of good to great experiences. A couple of negative experiences the last couple of trips has made me feel that perhaps my visits to Brazil have plateaued or I've let my guard down to some extent.
However, my most recently completed trip was perhaps my best one to date. A few things probably made this trip more enjoyable. I was not working much this trip so I was able to relax more. I was hanging out with some good friends, with like-minded tastes and sensibilities. I spent time with only new girls on this trip (no repeats), which is the first time this has happened since my inaugural trip to Brazil. And finally, by some weird coincidence, all the girls I spent time with were Cariocas!
I totally dig the relaxed and chill vibe of the Cariocas, but I don't generally go for the typical Carioca look. The majority of girls (excluding Paluistas) that I've been with in Brazil were from Minas Gerais, Santa Catarina or Rio Grande do Sul. This trip, I was lucky to find a lot of light skinned Cariocas or those that have the Minas Gerais or Southern Brazilian look.
Every one of my meetings ended up being a home run, and a couple I would consider grand slams! Even though I like variety and usually set aside half of my trip to see new girls, I would be content to repeat with every one of the girls I met on this trip when I next return to Brazil.How much is a girl at Scandallo during a normal week for 1 hour and overnight. Want to try SP for the first time but not for 2000 reals 1 hour.
How much is a girl at Scandallo during a normal week for 1 hour and overnight. Want to try SP for the first time but not for 2000 reals 1 hour.I have never had to pay more than 800.
DreamCarnarvon
11-13-23, 23:45
Went to Polícia Federal to extend my visa. I have done this on two previous trips and never had any problems. However this time, I was told that they couldn't find my visa info in their system so therefore they can't do anything. Instead, they told me to go to the airport and check in with the polícia federal there. My passport was stamped when I went through customs! How does something like this even happen I don't even know. I told my Brazilian friend that I have been an illegal alien all this time. All he did was laugh at me.
I don't think this happens too often but I think it's something that now should be in the back of everyone's mind when they pass through customs. Ask them to make sure they've entered your info into the system. I just hope the polícia federal at the airport can correct it.
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