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From Socrates post that you quoted: "My friends and I were able to easily negotiate hot tier 1 girls down to R800 to R1000 for an hour and R1500 to R2000 for an overnight, which was the norm during the summer. ".
How much is a girl at Scandallo during a normal week for 1 hour and overnight. Want to try SP for the first time but not for 2000 reals 1 hour.
How much is a girl at Scandallo during a normal week for 1 hour and overnight. Want to try SP for the first time but not for 2000 reals 1 hour.Hey TJ,
Currently in Sao Paulo for a bit and I do think the R1,000 mark is where most Scandallo girls are at for an hour. I've been able to get a lot of repeats from previous trips at R800-900, but the new ones really don't seem to want to settle for any less. Now I'm at the point where I will never ask their price because I know I'm going to get quoted R1,500 or more. One thing I've considered recently though is that I am arriving earlier in the evening and looking to go upstairs around 11-12, so its very possible those prices might fall off later in the evening. In the next week or two I'll try going later and seeing what prices look like around 2 am, for science.
On that note I've actually found myself frequenting Scandallo much less, because while I ultimately always have a good time the entry fee combined with the higher prices for the girls makes me wonder if I'm better off at Casarao. For reference entry plus drinks tends to run me around R600-R800, then R300 for the hotel, and another R1,000 for the girl. In contrast my Casarao tab is R50-R200, R100 for the hotel, and R600 typically divided between two girls. Funny enough I actually did not like Casarao my first time, but at the urging of other members here I gave it another try and its become my favorite house. The Casarao talent pool has really impressed me lately, and the prices are consistently R300 for a half and R500 for an hour. A few girls had asked for 350 and took 300, and a few have quoted me 250, so while it doesn't hurt to ask here like it might in Scandallo I generally just make my offer and stand firm. Casarao does have fewer girls who are my type to choose from, but there are always a few good prospects and I've only been disappointed once this trip. The one thing I would be mindful of is CBJs are more common here, so definitely ask if that's a deal breaker for you. Keep in mind though that when I say more common I mean a bit under 50% versus Scandallo's < 5%. Lastly on Casarao, don't bother showing up before 11:30 and try to go next door for your first round by 1 am. Before 11:30 its likely to be devoid of quality girls, but after 1 am the hotel gets busy and you have longer waits for a room. The waiting can be fun with the right girl, but waiting in that line twice would mean I don't get home until 5 am. It's been downright bizarre this last week to see the club packed wall to wall with people, and the hotel having three people in the lobby and no line.
Lastly not to contradict myself, but if I was only in SP for a week or less I'd be living it up at Scandallo. My mindset reflects being here for two weeks already with another four to go, so I don't want to make any newbies doubt the Scandallo experience. Anyway, I'll try to compile a proper report near the end of this trip. Have fun everyone!
We grab a seat and drink more flirting. We agreed on a price of $400 reais one hour. She offers to receive payment in Pix or credit. She pulls out a small terminal from her purse.
Damn I considered it for a half second then thought if I swipe my card I might not be able to use the card in Prime, Tangar, or Miruna Clinica in the morning. Haha its the only reason I don't swipe thinking about the duplos in the morning. I changed and told her lets do cash, it's better. Our number is called, we are stumbling in the hallway to the rooms.
Off we go to the rooms down a long hallway, downstairs up other stairs, darn another maze of rooms. We reach the room.
In the room, she says to pay upfront. I responded not. For a few minutes, it was a Mexican standoff.
Having been in a similar situation in Tijuanaa Adelitas I offer a compromise. I pull $400 reais, count them out loud, and, together. I ask for her high heels shoe. Place the dinero underneath her high heel shoe on top of the cabinet. She can see the money is there and it's hers when the deed is done.
She agrees great it worked.
I also experience girls taking out small device to swipe card for payment. There is no way I would risk swiping cards in these devices, so I always pay cash.
I did refuse to pay upfront few times. Once girl settle for half the payment before and half after. With another girl I threatened to walkout which promoted her to quickly agree for payment after. Its definitely a hassle to negotiate payment after in Casarao. So, I have started paying upfront. So far so good but will see what happens in future.
I was told that 650+ girls showed up on Tuesday, 950+ on Wednesday, and 900+ on Thursday by my favorite waiter and management at the club. I personally was there with a friend on Wednesday and Thursday night from 10 pm until 2-3 am and can concur on those numbers. I even counted the crowd from the balcony of the 2nd floor VIP area on Thursday and stopped counting after reaching 500 in the disco area. Once you add in girls at the outside patio, restaurant and in rooms, that's easily 900+. Every part of the club was open, including the back section of the outdoor patio.
As you can imagine, with such a big crowd, it can be quite hectic. It was difficult to move in the disco area, and sometimes even in the outdoor patio area. I was glad we had a table reserved in both the disco and patio area so we didn't need to stand around, which a lot of the guys had to do. While watching all the girls parade by, my friends and I kept thinking and saying two phrases. "Sensory Overload" and "Decision Paralysis"!
Very nice report, SocratesNY, and thanks for sharing details of what it is like during F1 week.
Wow! 900+ girl. I thought 200-300 girls on a night is the tops for the club but never imagined the it could pull in that many girls a night. I experience "Sensory Overload" and "Decision Paralysis" with 150-200+ girls. You experiencing it with such huge numbers is totally understandable. I guess I need to plan a trip next year during F1 week to see the spectacle. I am curious to know what was the entrance fee during the days you have visited.
Speaking of inflated F1 week pricing, I think the girls were probably disappointed at the turnout of the male clientele at Scandallo. If there were 3-5 x as many girls as usual, there were probably only 2 x as many guys as usual in the club when I was there. The girl to guy ratio was probably 4 to 5:1. I was staying at a hotel that many of the F1 team was staying at and the hotel GM informed me that there were plenty of tickets available when I inquired about tickets for a friend. He said it was due to Red Bull having already clinched the cup so a lot of tickets are being resold. The season being "over" and perhaps F1 fans preferring to go visit Vegas, which is more glitzy, for the next race, probably lessened the crowd in Scandallo as well. Due to the above, I did not experience the expected double or triple pricing I've been told is the norm from past F1 weeks at Scandallo. The top girls did start off at R2000 to R3000 for an hour and R3000 to R6000 for overnight. My friends and I were able to easily negotiate hot tier 1 girls down to R800 to R1000 for an hour and R1500 to R2000 for an overnight, which was the norm during the summer. We also don't really negotiate too hard, so perhaps a "haggler" can get them down even more.
Glad to hear the prices were not too inflated. Sounds like it was a buyers market. In my opinion, lots of girls go empty handed during normal times and I bet it was worse during F1 week with 4+:1 ratio.
Would appreciate any feedback gentlemen.
I have visited Brazil about 4 times now but always Rio. While I do come for play I GREATLY enjoy the easy vibe of Rio. The plan is to head back over in a few weeks but thinking of giving SP a try because of the storied I have heard about Scandello being the best.
I have gone through the threads here and I see great and so so reviews on Scandello.
So is it worth it for me to give up the laid back Rio vibe and visit SP and Scandello this trip?
Again, any feedback is appreciated.Scandallo is the place to visit if you want to see few hundred girls under one roof with luxurious atmosphere. Its not cheap like others have said. Prepare to spend a minimum of about 1500 reals (girl + entrance + room). Only way to know if the club is for you or not is to visit it once. In addition to Scandallo, you can try other boetes like Casarao, Bamboa, Cafe Photo etc. , and much cheaper clinicas while in SP.
Hey TJ,
Currently in Sao Paulo for a bit and I do think the R1,000 mark is where most Scandallo girls are at for an hour. I've been able to get a lot of repeats from previous trips at R800-900, but the new ones really don't seem to want to settle for any less. Now I'm at the point where I will never ask their price because I know I'm going to get quoted R1,500 or more. One thing I've considered recently though is that I am arriving earlier in the evening and looking to go upstairs around 11-12, so its very possible those prices might fall off later in the evening. In the next week or two I'll try going later and seeing what prices look like around 2 am, for science.
On that note I've actually found myself frequenting Scandallo much less, because while I ultimately always have a good time the entry fee combined with the higher prices for the girls makes me wonder if I'm better off at Casarao. For reference entry plus drinks tends to run me around R600-R800, then R300 for the hotel, and another R1,000 for the girl. In contrast my Casarao tab is R50-R200, R100 for the hotel, and R600 typically divided between two girls. Funny enough I actually did not like Casarao my first time, but at the urging of other members here I gave it another try and its become my favorite house. The Casarao talent pool has really impressed me lately, and the prices are consistently R300 for a half and R500 for an hour. A few girls had asked for 350 and took 300, and a few have quoted me 250, so while it doesn't hurt to ask here like it might in Scandallo I generally just make my offer and stand firm. Casarao does have fewer girls who are my type to choose from, but there are always a few good prospects and I've only been disappointed once this trip. The one thing I would be mindful of is CBJs are more common here, so definitely ask if that's a deal breaker for you. Keep in mind though that when I say more common I mean a bit under 50% versus Scandallo's < 5%. Lastly on Casarao, don't bother showing up before 11:30 and try to go next door for your first round by 1 am. Before 11:30 its likely to be devoid of quality girls, but after 1 am the hotel gets busy and you have longer waits for a room. The waiting can be fun with the right girl, but waiting in that line twice would mean I don't get home until 5 am. It's been downright bizarre this last week to see the club packed wall to wall with people, and the hotel having three people in the lobby and no line.
Lastly not to contradict myself, but if I was only in SP for a week or less I'd be living it up at Scandallo. My mindset reflects being here for two weeks already with another four to go, so I don't want to make any newbies doubt the Scandallo experience. Anyway, I'll try to compile a proper report near the end of this trip. Have fun everyone!JZeleznik,
Thanks for this commentary and breakdown of Scandallo pricing. I will be visiting in a few weeks and this information is much appreciated.
With that said, I ask the veterans of ISG, what would your ideal night look like at Scandallo? I imagine myself arriving around 6 PM. Then grabbing an ice cold Antarctica beer and making some rounds. Perhaps, then make my way over to the famous sushi bar and getting two rolls of a salmon and avocado roll. Once finished eating, begin engaging in more drink and more talk. I see myself making a decision around 8-9 PM and heading upstairs. I don't know if Scandallo rooms have showers but if they did, I surmise I would ask my lady of the night if she'd like to join and just do the deed in there.
Afterwards, I see myself exiting before 12 AM when the more unscrupulous gentlemen of SP begin hunting for gringos to take advantage of.
That's how I'm imagining it now. Plans change but I wonder if you were to construct an ideal timeline, what would it be?
Thanks and Godspeed.
J.
SocratesNY
11-14-23, 08:39
Just some random thoughts or comments from some recent posts without quoting the OP, as I am too lazy to do so.
F1 Week
It was fun to check out Scandallo during F1 week, but for me, it's probably a one and done type of deal. It can become difficult to secure hotels, reservations at hot restaurants, etc. It was disappointing that many of the good late night places (bars, clubs, etc.) were closed due to private parties or lack of interest by regular patrons. Traffic was also noticeably worse while I was in town, which is saying something as Sao Paulo traffic normally gives NYC, DC, LA, etc. Traffic a run for its money.
Admission / consumption at Scandallo for F1 week 2023, Mon to Thurs was R300 before 7 pm all consumption. After 7 pm, it was R500, with R300 for consumption (so same as usual). On Fri and Saturday, it was R300 before 3 pm, all consumption, and after 3 PM, it was R600, with R300 for consumption.
Paying GDP via CC
Regarding CC payment to a GDP. Not in a million years. Besides the possibility of CC fraud, skimming, etc. , the thought of my real personal info. In the hands of a GDP is a no go. I GDP-proof my room when I bring one back by not leaving any personal info. To hand over my real name (not a big deal as it's basically similar to John Smith) and personal info. And leave a paper trail with them is just too risky, if you value your privacy and discretion. Don't want to be a target of some blackmail scheme.
Paying a GDP before the deed
Someone else mentioned that country, city, venue, etc. Would dictate whether it's necessary or common to pay first and I agree with them. With that said, it's fortunate that its not the norm in Brazil in almost all venues. I think I might have been asked to pay first in one of the high end clinicas, but I could be wrong. I've only had one boate girl ask for payment up front (out of probably 100+). I flatly told her no, so she left. I probably saved myself from a shitty time, as her whole persona and energy totally changed when I refused to pay upfront. I now make it known during my vetting / interview process that I only pay at the end. I've also had to do the same regarding BBBJ, due to a few instances where I found out the girl only does CBJ.
Scandallo
As much as I love the place, It can get boring if you go more than 2 or 3 nights a week, especially if you are visiting SP for more than a week or two. You end up seeing mostly the same girls after 3-4 visits. I usually go during the weekdays to meet new girls and then repeat with girls I find special over the weekend, whether I met them on my current trip or from previous trips. They would then act as my tour guide and we would do civilian stuff on the weekends, when Scandallo and other boates are slower or closed.
Wednesdays and Thursdays seem to be the busiest days at Scandallo with the most girls. Those are the nights most locals can use the excuse of a business dinner or night out with the boys. Those are also usually the days that the club hires popular live musical acts and DJs to perform, which also draws a crowd. Weekends are usually reserved for family time or hanging out with friends, so Friday and Saturday are slower. Although I've heard from some that on Saturdays a lot of local Asians attend the club in groups for some reason. Mondays are also slow as it's the start of the workweek. Tuesday can be a bit like Friday and Saturday, but sometimes busy like Thursdays, especially if they have a musical guest.
Also don't discount the daytime / afternoon crew. Some girls prefer to work during the day as they can pretend to be working a regular job and keep their gig more on the down low. It's a more mellow vibe during the day and I've met some amazing girls during the day. A great compromise is to show up at 6 pm and you can see the shift change that occurs at 8 to 10 pm, as girls work 8 hours and daytime girls usually show up between 12 to 2 pm. They tend to be more down to earth and prefer to avoid the nighttime party crowd. You also get the benefit of only having to pay R300, which is all consumption. It's a great time to visit too if you don't plan to party into the night.
When my schedule allows, I like to show up at 5-6 pm to check out the afternoon crowd and then exit around 7 or 8 to go out to dinner. I then would return later at night and not have to pay the admission again and just pay for whatever I consume. As I usually have a bottle waiting for me, my late night consumption on the return visit usually isn't too much.
High end clinicas
I used to consider them to be a great compromise between regular clinicas and boate girls. The girls are generally hotter on average than regular clinica girls and can be similar to a boate girl. I've also found their service to be on par with most boate girls. However, I'm reconsidering my assessment, as they increased their pricing earlier this year. Now they are almost R800 for the hour. They lose their value if you end up staying more than 60 minutes, as a 90 or 120 minute session can end up costing as much or more than a Scandallo girl.
I am also not a fan of the iPad system, even though the pictures are pretty much representative of the girls, if a tad touched up. Girls with videos do show a better representation of how they look. I was told by management from most of the clubs that I can pick a 2nd girl within 10-15 minutes if I wanted someone else. A local ISG bro mentioned a good tactic of picking 2 girls that he liked and then asking to see both (they come one at a time), before he decided.
I also liked Palm the most from previous experiences. I had one average / okay experience, one good experience and one amazing experience at Palms. My amazing experience at Palms was with probably my favorite clinica girl I've met in SP, but I didn't get a chance to repeat as she only works on Saturdays, when I am usually busy. I had one good experience at Lotus and one very good experience at Oro. I plan to check out Sharon on my next trip, especially as it is very close to one of my favorite regular clinicas, Tangara, which has a very large and diverse lineup and at low end pricing.
The rooms were all very nice in all three that I visited. Very spacious with good lighting and good amenities similar to a 4 to 5 star hotel room / mini suite. Lotus and Oro has a more modern look and Palms has a tropical bungalow feel. All were more than a step up from regular clinica rooms and even the Scandallo rooms.
Boteco Belmonte
It seems they have 8 locations all over RJ. They even have a location in SP! Their location in Leme also seems to have a great view. It was cool seeing them bring over some of their more popular dishes to tables for you to see and pick. It's a bit like a Rodizio at a Churrascaria, but it's not all you can eat!
Hey TJ,
Currently in Sao Paulo for a bit and I do think the R1,000 mark is where most Scandallo girls are at for an hour. I've been able to get a lot of repeats from previous trips at R800-900, but the new ones really don't seem to want to settle for any less. Now I'm at the point where I will never ask their price because I know I'm going to get quoted R1,500 or more. One thing I've considered recently though is that I am arriving earlier in the evening and looking to go upstairs around 11-12, so its very possible those prices might fall off later in the evening. In the next week or two I'll try going later and seeing what prices look like around 2 am, for science.
On that note I've actually found myself frequenting Scandallo much less, because while I ultimately always have a good time the entry fee combined with the higher prices for the girls makes me wonder if I'm better off at Casarao. For reference entry plus drinks tends to run me around R600-R800, then R300 for the hotel, and another R1,000 for the girl. In contrast my Casarao tab is R50-R200, R100 for the hotel, and R600 typically divided between two girls. Funny enough I actually did not like Casarao my first time, but at the urging of other members here I gave it another try and its become my favorite house. The Casarao talent pool has really impressed me lately, and the prices are consistently R300 for a half and R500 for an hour. A few girls had asked for 350 and took 300, and a few have quoted me 250, so while it doesn't hurt to ask here like it might in Scandallo I generally just make my offer and stand firm.Casaro sounds like the place then. Is the quality at scandallo that much better than Casaro. I only need to find one hottie every couple days. My 2 or 3 girls a night or over.
Casaro sounds like the place then. Is the quality at scandallo that much better than Casaro. I only need to find one hottie every couple days. My 2 or 3 girls a night or over.Lately I find the difference in quality of looks has narrowed a bit between the two, though Scandallo is still the clear winner. Scandallo requires the girls to maintain a strict five day schedule or pay a fine, so there are definitely great looking girls who can't keep that schedule and end up working elsewhere. Of course the absolute knockouts don't care because they make so much the fine is meaningless, but as competition is high even very good looking girls have to worry they'll have a bad night.
Where Scandallo has a definitive edge is quality of service. For me personally, if I was going for only one or two girls a week I would opt for the Scandallo experience (or maybe Bomboa). Casarao is very fast paced, whereas at Scandallo I'll have a good meal, walk around having drinks and scoping out my options, spend an hour or two chatting with a girl and then go have a great fuck. I've definitely had spectacular and passionate sex at Casarao, but its much more of a gamble. I don't mind risking a mediocre experience, because at that price I'll just find someone else for round 2. At Scandallo you're going to have much more time to build a rapport, and ensure a good experience. I've had disappointing sex at Casarao, and in general I am highly selective when it comes to picking girls there. In contrast I can't recall ever having an actual bad experience with a girl at Scandallo. For you I might suggest alternating between Scandallo and Bomboa to see how you like it. Bomboa is definitely more relaxed like Scandallo, and the quality of girls is high both in terms of looks and service. The cost is a bit lower than Scandallo, though not by much. I haven't been this trip yet, but I do plan to go soon to see how it holds up in the current environment.
Socrates
Thanks for the info about the day shift. I had gone once at 6 but there wasn't anyone in attendance who caught my eye, and the girls I like on the night shift usually aren't on the floor until 9:30-10. I was almost falling asleep waiting, so its good to know I can leave and come back without getting locked into the 200 entry and another 300 in consumables, though in practice I'd probably consume that much anyway between me and a drink or two for the girls. Do you need to do anything special when you leave and return, or do they automatically know when they put your ID into the computer?
Jsmith
I can't speak to the quality of day shift, but I can tell you that you won't see the best of night shift until 9 at the earliest, and probably more like 9:30-45. In terms of safety, that is a non-issue at Scandallo. I have literally seen a man passed out on a sofa for well over two hours, and nothing happened to him. I was starting to suspect he was dead with as still as he was, so I positioned myself sitting with a girl so that we could verify he did eventually wake up. Also when you take an Uber or Cab to Scandallo you are dropped off and picked up in a semi enclosed area surrounded by staff and security. I have never felt safer at a bar or strip club in my life, and you're equally as safe leaving Scandallo at 12 or 4 am.
The three times I've been to Casarao I saw mostly 6's, some 5's, one or two 7's. Never ever saw a 9 or 10.
I would compare an apple with an apple. Let's say, Scandallo and the classy Cafe Photo (many guys here don't like Cafe Photo, I'm sure), both places have 8's and above. Cafe Photo in less number of course.
Lately I find the difference in quality of looks has narrowed a bit between the two, though Scandallo is still the clear winner. Scandallo requires the girls to maintain a strict five day schedule or pay a fine, so there are definitely great looking girls who can't keep that schedule and end up working elsewhere. Of course the absolute knockouts don't care because they make so much the fine is meaningless, but as competition is high even very good looking girls have to worry they'll have a bad night.
I will be in Sao Paulo next week actually arriving Saturday morning 18th. Staying in the Pinheiros area but willing to travel to someone good. My nights will be taken up mostly by several regulars but I am wanting to find a good massage Saturday afternoon, Monday and Friday or the next Saturday / Sunday. By this I mean someone that actually knows what they are doing and can do it well. It is nice to have some teasing and the possibility of intimacy but not necessary.
It is a long shot but thought I would ask on here. I will be searching on my own as well and will report if I find someone.
The Critic
11-15-23, 08:20
Just some random thoughts or comments from some recent posts without quoting the OP, as I am too lazy to do so.Thanks for the illuminating report on "Scandalo during F1 week" and High End Clinicas. I look forward to your next SP report.
SocratesNY
11-15-23, 22:34
Socrates
Thanks for the info about the day shift. I had gone once at 6 but there wasn't anyone in attendance who caught my eye, and the girls I like on the night shift usually aren't on the floor until 9:30-10. I was almost falling asleep waiting, so its good to know I can leave and come back without getting locked into the 200 entry and another 300 in consumables, though in practice I'd probably consume that much anyway between me and a drink or two for the girls. Do you need to do anything special when you leave and return, or do they automatically know when they put your ID into the computer?My friends and I do the arrive at 5-6 pm and then leane for dinner at 7-8 pm and return after 10 pm regularly. They know you were there earlier in the day due to your ID.
With that said, we often remind the counter girls when we return later in the night that we were in the club earlier and just came from dinner. We haven't had any issues with extra charge for cover on the return so far, but always good to check your receipts before paying.
One ISG member mentioned earlier this year that they rescinded this leave and return policy, but I've been to Scandallo in 3 subsequent trips and confirmed each time, both in person and via WhatsApp, that the policy is still in effect.
One tactic that my friends and I often do is that we pool our consumption on a bottle each visit before 7 pm (sometimes after 7 pm too). That way, we limit our consumption drinks wise when we return. Bottles are valid for 6 months.
I also went to Bomboa during their "happy hour" for the first time this trip. It is similar to Scandallo's before 7 pm reduced consumption / entry. In Bomboa's case, it is R147 consumption before 3 pm. There were about 15-20 girls during the afternoon during our visit. Not a bad spot to grab lunch and numbers or an afternoon session.
The three times I've been to Casarao I saw mostly 6's, some 5's, one or two 7's. Never ever saw a 9 or 10.Scales are a tricky thing and I frankly don't like using them, but in my entire life I've only ever seen a single 10 in person. I'm probably right around 40 Scandallo visits, and I've only seen a handful of 9's there. There are IMO a lot more pretend 9's, women who can pass for a 9, but really are just good at concealing whatever (minor) physical flaws they have. The magic of Scandallo is that its loaded with 7's and 8's. Also personally I'd almost always rather fuck a 7 or an 8 as I find them to be more fun in bed than the 9's, but that's another discussion.
On a good night, Casarao will have a few 7's and a rare 8 among a sea of 4's, 5's, and 6's. The 7's don't sit around too long, and the 8's vanish if you blink too slow. I spend most of my time there fending off women who think I'm shy rather than picky. Last night at Casarao the girl I went with was an upper 7. I saw her on the floor twice totaling less than ten minutes, and only caught her right as she was about to leave the club. I saw maybe four other 7's in the three hours I was there, and there were easily 100+ girls. If its a bad night like Monday, I don't mind a fun 6 given the price.
For me at least, Casarao is a lot more "work" if you want the quality girls. Scandallo is not, your options for quality girls are abundant. However as I spend months here and look to fuck 4-5 nights a week with some clinica day trips mixed in, Scandallo is really taxing on my budget. Putting in the work at Casarao is worth it for me most of the time, and when its not I go to Scandallo.
Hi Guys,
Can anyone give some advise on the forthcoming visa requirements? I shall be coming to Sao Paulo and Rio for the first time around January 20th. I heard they are imposing Visa requirement for those coming after 10th January. Have they already started giving visas? I could not confirm this on any site. I called the consulate in DC but no one ever picks up the phone. Do they have tourist visa on arrival? If they have this option then I can book my ticket without worrying about when they are going to start processing the visas. The other option they may have is EVISA to be applied on line. But I don't see that is open yet. I just can't fathom how long should I wait before I can buy my plane tickets. I was planning to get the visa first and then buy my tickets. I would appreciate any feed back in this matter.
SocratesNY
11-16-23, 17:28
Hi Guys,
Can anyone give some advise on the forthcoming visa requirements? I shall be coming to Sao Paulo and Rio for the first time around January 20th. I heard they are imposing Visa requirement for those coming after 10th January. Have they already started giving visas? I could not confirm this on any site. I called the consulate in DC but no one ever picks up the phone. Do they have tourist visa on arrival? If they have this option then I can book my ticket without worrying about when they are going to start processing the visas. The other option they may have is EVISA to be applied on line. But I don't see that is open yet. I just can't fathom how long should I wait before I can buy my plane tickets. I was planning to get the visa first and then buy my tickets. I would appreciate any feed back in this matter.Details were supposed to be rolled out in December. An evisa option was supposedly available.
But as with all things Brazilian. I wouldn't be surprised if it's pushed back again.
Details were supposed to be rolled out in December. An evisa option was supposedly available.
But as with all things Brazilian. I wouldn't be surprised if it's pushed back again.https://www.ivisa.com
These guys are fantastic. I originally purchased my visa through them for a trip in November.
I sent them $102.77, but they told me that they couldn't purchase the visa until 30 days prior to my trip.
Then they told me the visa is not needed until Jan 2024, and that they were sending me the money back.
My understanding is the evisa will be available for application and approval online. There are "facilitator" services advertised online for every country. I find I have to investigate the first few websites that come back as search results before I find one that is legitimate: https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/assuntos/portal-consular/quem-contatar/vistos.
https://www.ivisa.com
These guys are fantastic. I originally purchased my visa through them for a trip in November.
I sent them $102.77, but they told me that they couldn't purchase the visa until 30 days prior to my trip.
Then they told me the visa is not needed until Jan 2024, and that they were sending me the money back.
Member #4813
11-17-23, 20:58
I am in Sao Paulo with a Namorada of 15+ years. The truth is that she is OK, but I want some other fun. I was thinking of going to a clinica (telling her I had a work related meeting).
I think a Clinica would be ideal, but since I haven't been to Sao Paulo since November 2019, I forget which Clinica is which! I remember Cesarao and Scandalos, by the way. I have opinions that are probably worthless at this point. I preferred Cesarao because I could hang for hours before making my choice. When I delayed at Scandolos, the garotas began to ignore me. But, I had great times at both places.
For an afternoon sojourn, I was thinking of Taj Mahal or Tangara. I want BBBJ and sex and maybe a massage. I definitely prefer GFE. Indeed, that is the goal. Price is not an issue. I have been to Tangara many times, but again, not since 2019. Am I more likely to get GFE at Taj Mahal? I assume I will get BBBJ at both places- is this true?
Member #4813
11-17-23, 22:13
Check out the best massage clinic in Sao Paulo I was there and I recommend it to anyone going to So Paulo.
https://clinicavip.com.br
Confira tambem o melhor site de comandantes do ABC.
https://pirigueti.com.brI checked out the site and cannot tell what services are offered. Can you tell us? I am certainly not interested in a massage with a handjob ending. Sao Paulo is mongerers heaven. You got to do better than this.
Now that our folks here are talking lots about Casarao Club, here a video, much better than Google street view because you'll see how it really looks like at night.
https://youtu.be/561UX7RPpFo
We also have a version of the way to Casarao by metro. It will not be on Youtube because there are many people's faces. So it's for individual view only.
The Consolacao metro station is a short walking distance I would make paying a bit more attention late at night because the area is more spicy than others in Sao Paulo.
Feel free to send me a PM.
Note: at the end of the video "Elvi's suspicious minds club remix" on the radio ... super classy Sao Paulo radio
FlowState985
11-18-23, 04:39
For an afternoon sojourn, I was thinking of Taj Mahal or Tangara. I want BBBJ and sex and maybe a massage. I definitely prefer GFE. Indeed, that is the goal. Price is not an issue. I have been to Tangara many times, but again, not since 2019. Am I more likely to get GFE at Taj Mahal? I assume I will get BBBJ at both places- is this true?You will more likely get BBBJ and GFE at Tangara than Taj Mahal. At TM, it's massage, flip, then depends on the girl, you might get BBBJ but mostly going to be CBJ, and they uses tablet.
World Travel 69
11-18-23, 14:50
I went there 10 years straight and a few other years.
The Government closed all the Brothel and clubs about 7 years ago.
Mostly it is online.
http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/
Here a taxi tour in downtown Buenos Aires. Street walkers mostly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVk-wHurPBw
RickyRick95
11-18-23, 17:51
Hi everyone new in this forum and as the tittle suggests I will be visiting sao paulo for the first time in a few weeks, in a trip exclusively for mongering after years of hearing wonders of Sp and Brazil in general from friends that have visited before. First of all I would like to thank everyone for their reports, I've read like 50 plus pages and I have find very usefull information.
As mentioned I will be visiting in the end of the month for a few days, anyone down there in those dates is welcome to join me and a friend, that I am going with, for visits to scandallo and other venues hahaha. I am from south america but my english is pretty good so I may be of help translating as portugues is very similar to spanish.
Also I would like to confirm if, as I read in previous reports, the entrance fee for Scandallo of 300 brl before 7 pm is only for the weekdays before Friday and that from Friday to Saturday that fee only applies before 3 pm. I previously had known that the price of the entrance fee of 300 applied to everyday before 7 pm, but I was surprised to read that now is only for Monday-thurs. This is a concern for me because I will be arriving on very early on a Thursday and have booked a well know pornstar / content creator for that day as that day will be the last day of her in SP, and I don't think I have the energy to visit scandallo the same day I arrive very early on the moring and most of all after having hopefully a great fuck earliar in that afternoon. Because of that I was planning to visit scandallo, a must visit aftear reading all the reports, on Friday but I don't want to pay the full entrance fee that I alsa reado is not 500 on Friday but 600 and only 300 on consumables.
That is why I want to confirm if those fees continue to apply or they were F1 week fees?? I those fees maintain I think my friend and I will be force to go before 3 pm and stay there the whole day hahaha.
Once again appreaciate all the help.
I went there 10 years straight and a few other years.
The Government closed all the Brothel and clubs about 7 years ago.
Mostly it is online.
http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/It's crazy to me how little there is in Argentina outside of the online advertisements, not even traditional strip clubs without sex. On my last visit I went to one of the very few clubs, and the door guy told me it was $80 USD to get in. Didn't see any supermodels inside so I turned around immediately. I do need to check out Coccodrillo one day though, maybe there is some hope there.
Member #4813
11-18-23, 21:52
You will more likely get BBBJ and GFE at Tangara than Taj Mahal. At TM, it's massage, flip, then depends on the girl, you might get BBBJ but mostly going to be CBJ, and they uses tablet.I did not try Taj Mahal but Tangara was an awesome experience! DFK / BBBJ /69 complete GFE. Beautiful redhead. 22 years old and totally natural. Name is Lily.
There were a lot of girls! Not all were gorgeous but there was skmeone for every taste. Damage was 190 BRL for about 45 minutes.
SocratesNY
11-19-23, 15:23
That is why I want to confirm if those fees continue to apply or they were F1 week fees?? I those fees maintain I think my friend and I will be force to go before 3 pm and stay there the whole day hahaha.
Once again appreaciate all the help.Those were elevated and amended F1 pricing / schedule.
Normally it's.
M-F, 300 beforen7 pm all consumption and 500 after 7 pm, 300 consumption.
Saturday, 350 before 7 pm, 300. Consumption and 500 after 7 pm, 300 consumption.
Basically a 200 cover after 7 pm M-F and on Saturday, it's a 50 cover before 7 and 200 after. It's easy to spend 300 consumption, which you can spend on food, drinks, tobacco products, etc.
But they have raised their cover / min consumption at least 2 x since 2021. So best to just ask them on Whatsapp or IG a week before you arrive. You can find their info on their website. Which you can find via google.
It's crazy to me how little there is in Argentina outside of the online advertisements, not even traditional strip clubs without sex. On my last visit I went to one of the very few clubs, and the door guy told me it was $80 USD to get in. Didn't see any supermodels inside so I turned around immediately. I do need to check out Coccodrillo one day though, maybe there is some hope there.My last visit was 13 years ago. Back then Hook, Cattos, Madahos and Blacks were rocking. Excedra was closed some years before. Hottest providers in the world. Best times in mongering.
It's crazy to me how little there is in Argentina outside of the online advertisements, not even traditional strip clubs without sex. On my last visit I went to one of the very few clubs, and the door guy told me it was $80 USD to get in. Didn't see any supermodels inside so I turned around immediately. I do need to check out Coccodrillo one day though, maybe there is some hope there.The place I believe you're referring to is Delirios in BA
(D' Lirios).
I befriended the head security guy there, and he says the cover charge is "whatever they think they can get out of the particular guy" Lol.
My first time going, they said $100 US cover charge.
I talked them down to $0, lol, saying I would buy a few drinks during the night and give a tip when leaving.
Had a great time and gave the guy $10 leaving.
I continue with the same deal.
Negotiate.
It's Argentina, 😆
Saturday, 350 before 7 pm, 300. Consumption The entry was $R300 before 7pm all consumable for my visit last Saturday (18th Nov).
As mentioned I will be visiting in the end of the month for a few days, anyone down there in those dates is welcome to join me and a friend, that I am going with, for visits to scandallo and other venues hahaha. I will be in SP during last week of this month. Hopefully we will meet in one of the venues.
Also I would like to confirm if, as I read in previous reports, the entrance fee for Scandallo of 300 brl before 7 pm is only for the weekdays Entrance fee yesterday (Saturday) was $R300 before 7 pm same as during week days. That doesn't mean it will not be $R350 or higher next weekend or when during your visit. Like SocratesNY said, they have raised prices many times since the beginning of the pandemic. All the entry fee numbers shared by forum members apply to the days they have visited and they could be same or higher when you visit. Scandallo charges much higher entrance fee (like $R800+ for example )on days they have music or other event. They advertise those events on their website so it is easy to avoid visiting the place. They have one music event on 22nd Nov.
RickyRick95
11-20-23, 01:07
Those were elevated and amended F1 pricing / schedule.
Normally it's.
M-F, 300 beforen7 pm all consumption and 500 after 7 pm, 300 consumption.
Saturday, 350 before 7 pm, 300. Consumption and 500 after 7 pm, 300 consumption.
Basically a 200 cover after 7 pm M-F and on Saturday, it's a 50 cover before 7 and 200 after. It's easy to spend 300 consumption, which you can spend on food, drinks, tobacco products, etc.
But they have raised their cover / min consumption at least 2 x since 2021. So best to just ask them on Whatsapp or IG a week before you arrive. You can find their info on their website. Which you can find via google.Thank you SocratesNY, it is a relief to hear that those were only inflated fees due to F1. I will do as you say and contact them thru wsp and ig days before my travel to confirm the fees.
I will be in SP during last week of this month. Hopefully we will meet in one of the venues.
Entrance fee yesterday (Saturday) was $R300 before 7 pm same as during week days. That doesn't mean it will not be $R350 or higher next weekend or when during your visit. Like SocratesNY said, they have raised prices many times since the beginning of the pandemic. All the entry fee numbers shared by forum members apply to the days they have visited and they could be same or higher when you visit. Scandallo charges much higher entrance fee (like $R800+ for example )on days they have music or other event. They advertise those events on their website so it is easy to avoid visiting the place. They have one music event on 22nd Nov.Thank you as well Lalabo for the information as your visit was yesterday is more than reassuring then that the fees are back to normal, but just to be on the safeside as Socrates mentioned I will confirm with them thru wsp. I will be in SP from the Nov 30th to the Dec 3rd. I am planning to visit Scandallo the Friday 1st. I check and those are not hollidays nor are concerts or anything as you mentioned, which is great because I did not check that prior to booking flights and airbnb for this trip.
I will try to activate the Pm function so anyone interested in joining for the adventure can contact me so we can meet up.
P.S.: Just in case anyone here has fucked Luiza marcata known pornstar and content creator, I have seen she have good reviews but it does not hurt if anyone here has fucked her and can tell their experience. I booked her for my first day in sp.
RickyRick95
11-20-23, 01:18
The entry was $R300 before 7pm all consumable for my visit last Saturday (18th Nov).Lalabo could tell us how was Scandallo yesterday? Great as always, regarding the ratio men girls how was it?
My last visit was 13 years ago. Back then Hook, Cattos, Madahos and Blacks were rocking. Excedra was closed some years before. Hottest providers in the world. Best times in mongering.A libertarian elected President of Argentina Milei has nothing against P4 P. Maybe business in CABA would take on his words to be able to 'profit' and bring back the establishments.
...I befriended the head security guy there...Was he a big black dude?
The place I believe you're referring to is Delirios in BA
(D' Lirios).
I befriended the head security guy there, and he says the cover charge is "whatever they think they can get out of the particular guy" Lol.
My first time going, they said $100 US cover charge.
I talked them down to $0, lol, saying I would buy a few drinks during the night and give a tip when leaving.
Had a great time and gave the guy $10 leaving.
I continue with the same deal.
Negotiate.
It's Argentina, 😆That's hilarious, and yes that was the club. They actually talked themselves down a bit before I left, but I tend to assume if the cover is $80 then the girls will be asking for at least that amount. Given that girls from the online ads were costing me $20-$30, I wasn't planning to spend $100+ for similar looking women.
A libertarian elected President of Argentina Milei has nothing against P4 P. Maybe business in CABA would take on his words to be able to 'profit' and bring back the establishments.I heard the plan is to switch to the US dollar for Argentina's legal currency. That would get rid of the worthless Argentine peso and help stop the outrageous inflation. And to think that Brazil and Argentina have talked about having a single currency between them. I wouldn't touch a routinely screwed up Argentine economy and bring it into my own, dragging me down with them!
Lalabo could tell us how was Scandallo yesterday? Great as always, regarding the ratio men girls how was it?Lineup was below par in numbers & beauty.
I am posting a report soon.
I heard the plan is to switch to the US dollar for Argentina's legal currency. That would get rid of the worthless Argentine peso and help stop the outrageous inflation. And to think that Brazil and Argentina have talked about having a single currency between them. I wouldn't touch a routinely screwed up Argentine economy and bring it into my own, dragging me down with them!Hopefully they'd try to get more Americans to visit, bring in US currency and thus improve their economy by reopening the clubs, bring back the good old days.
Flew into GRU last Thursday morning. I didn't book roundtrip to Rio as the fares were outrageously expensive like $500+ when I checked before the trip. So I took Uber to Sao Paulo Tiete bus terminal which is on the way to Moema and booked round trip (11/19 - return 11/26) bus ticket with bed for $R600 (you could do it for less than half that price by choosing seat instead). It costs me $120 instead of $500+ had I chose to fly. If couldn't book bus online without CPF, had to go to a bus terminal to book. The air fare was about $900 to Rio for my dates when I checked checked after arriving in SP. I understand there is a Talor Shift's concert this weekend but why the hell the return flight to SP cost $400? I recommend taking BUS when you see crazy airfares between Rio & SP. So far I have used 1001 bus service 5 times and always booked bed (instead of a seat) which is extremely comfortable and I highly recommend.
Casarao (Nov 16):
CBJ infestation finally caught up to me. Not because I didn't make sure the girl does BBBJ but the girl reneged on the agreement.
Got to the club just after midnight. The entry fee with all consumption is now $R60 instead of $R50. I thought the consumable carried forward between exit and reentries but I learned that is not the case. So make sure you consume $R60 before leaving the club with a girl and plan to get back in.
Club was mostly packed when I entered. A tall, cute, petite, pale skinned young girl Isa attracted my attention. I asked about BBBJ and Anal which she agreed to do so we made a deal for $R400 for an hour. As I was about to pay for the room I noticed the receptionist give some kind of signal to Isa who immediately asks me if I would buy her a drink. In Casarao if a girl orders a drink (they tend to order expensive ones) they get a cut so I have decided to not buy drinks at this place especially if a girl asks for it. I declined her offer. I bet the receptionist wouldn't do that with locals. Anyway, Isa has a great tight body and did everything including Anal except BBBJ. When asked about BBBJ she lied about agreeing to it and she always does CBJ. I call BS on that. So, the moral of the story is that at Casarao nogotiating upfront for BBBJ in addition to other services doesn't guarantee you get it. I know this sort of thing can happen at any place. I don't get it. She was ok with DFK, DATY and getting fucked in her tight little asshole but not BBBJ. Maybe somebody told her that she gets pregnant with BBBJ.
Casarao (Nov 17):
Entered the club around midnight. Club wasn't as full as the day before. A young innocent looking girl with typical Brazilian bum for her smaller frame drew my attention. Her name is Larissa, an attractive 18 yo with great body and thunter thighs & rock solid ass. Unfortunately she said no to anal but she was ok with CIM (which is not that common at this place). She said that was her 1st day and I believe she is new to the business or to the club based on her demeanor and behavior during I was with her. I think she has just started this kind of work. She asked for $R600 but finally agreed for $R450 for an hour. Same receptionist at the hotel next door and no signal for drinks this time, maybe because the girl is new or she knows I would say no. I hope it stays that way. Her body I like rock especially her huge (for her body frame) ass and thighs). It was a good session and CIM finish.
Scandallo (Nov 18):
Got to the club at 7 pm on the dot. Entry was $R300 all consumable. There were maybe less than 40 girls and much less men. Number went up during the course of the night but less than typical levels for this place. At 11 pm there were maybe about 100 or so girls. Not lot of pretty girls, mostly average looking ones you can find at Casarao but dressed nicely to Scandallo standards. I spoke to 3 girls and they all happen to be named Ana (20 yo, 23 yo and a 30 yo). That's a first and I doubt it will ever going to happen again. 20 yo cutie started with a very reasonable $R1000 and agreed for $700 for standard service. It was a satisfying typical season.
Leaving to Rio tomorrow and will return to SP next Sunday. I will post reports in Rio forum.
CourteousGuy
11-21-23, 08:20
That's hilarious, and yes that was the club. They actually talked themselves down a bit before I left, but I tend to assume if the cover is $80 then the girls will be asking for at least that amount. Given that girls from the online ads were costing me $20-$30, I wasn't planning to spend $100+ for similar looking women.I am going to be in SP next week and it is my first time being in Brazil.
Coming from Unfortunately I will not have much time during the week and will be focused more on Saturday and Sunday.
However I've seen that not everything is open on a Sunday.
Going through posts in the forum, I will likely be focussing on clinicas (e. G. Prime), freelancers and maybe one time Casaro, if I can make it.
It also seems the prices there are quite okay.
Anything I need to be aware of as a foreigner (Europe) regarding pricing? (Read something about discounts).
I don't know if my Hotel (or Hotels in general) have issues with girls visiting.
I'd like to avoid issues, due to working.
Probably visiting them is the wiser choice?
Now what am I looking for?
Girl next doors (natural, not enhanced) and girlfriend experience. DFK with cuddles after the deed, possibly also spending more than 1 hour with a girl.
Ideally, if possible, I'd like her to speak English. I only speak a few words of portogese, which I am trying to improve but it won't be more than a few words or phrases here an there:
What is also is very important to me, is to have the feeling the girl is enjoying it as well and that she gives me the feeling to want things to happen. I long for feeling desired. (Single for a while).
I have no enjoyment, if I feel she is uncomfortable. Ideally, she wants to spend time with me afterwards again.
Can you give me some recommendations for girls, clinicas and freelancers? (Also via PM).
I will report my experiences afterwards (or also during the trip), if you wish so.
This is also my first trip as a subbed member and I intend to make my contributions to the forum and all of you awesome members.
How long a bus ride is it from Sao Paulo to Rio? There is no wrong or right way to do this. It's all a matter of personal preference. For the extra several hundreds of dollars I would personally substitute a couple of Scandallo and boate visits with Moema clinicas, even if the lineups were not as you put it "weak" in the boates. The good news is bus travel is known to be much safer in Brazil than it is in the Andes.
Flew into GRU last Thursday morning. I didn't book roundtrip to Rio as the fares were outrageously expensive like $500+ when I checked before the trip. So I took Uber to Sao Paulo Tiete bus terminal which is on the way to Moema and booked round trip (11/19 - return 11/26) bus ticket with bed for $R600 (you could do it for less than half that price by choosing seat instead). It costs me $120 instead of $500+ had I chose to fly. If couldn't book bus online without CPF, had to go to a bus terminal to book. The air fare was about $900 to Rio for my dates when I checked checked after arriving in SP. I understand there is a Talor Shift's concert this weekend but why the hell the return flight to SP cost $400? I recommend taking BUS when you see crazy airfares between Rio & SP. So far I have used 1001 bus service 5 times and always booked bed (instead of a seat) which is extremely comfortable and I highly recommend.
Casarao (Nov 16):
CBJ infestation finally caught up to me. Not because I didn't make sure the girl does BBBJ but the girl reneged on the agreement.
Got to the club just after midnight. The entry fee with all consumption is now $R60 instead of $R50. I thought the consumable carried forward between exit and reentries but I learned that is not the case. So make sure you consume $R60 before leaving the club with a girl and plan to get back in...
Axel Heyst
11-21-23, 14:51
I am going to be in SP next week and it is my first time being in Brazil.
Going through posts in the forum, I will likely be focussing on clinicas (e. G. Prime), freelancers and maybe one time Casaro, if I can make it.
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I don't know if my Hotel (or Hotels in general) have issues with girls visiting.
I'd like to avoid issues, due to working.
Probably visiting them is the wiser choice?
Now what am I looking for?
Girl next doors (natural, not enhanced) and girlfriend experience. DFK with cuddles after the deed, possibly also spending more than 1 hour with a girl.
Ideally, if possible, I'd like her to speak English. I only speak a few words of portogese, which I am trying to improve but it won't be more than a few words or phrases here an there:Congrats, from your post it looks like you researched your upcoming trip, and you are ready to go into action and have a great time. I wouldn't dream, however, of recommending any specific girls to you because IMHO half the fun is in the hunt and finding a good girl each and every night. It ain't hard. You are dealing with Brazilian girls, the most passionate girls on the planet. GFE, PSE, or just real good sex: it is hard to tell in advance what you are going to get, but that is part of the fun if you ask me.
True story: before my 1st trip to Brazil in April 2021 (during the Covid), a well-known BM pal sent me a private message in which he jokingly offered that if I had one bad session in Brazil, he would pay my tab. Unfortunately, he was right. KKKKKKKKKKK. I did not have 1 bad session during that 1st 6-week trip and I got to say I have had very, very, very few bad ones since then. Brazilian working girls are into sex! So, relax, don't over plan, go with the flow, yada yada, all cliches, Ha Ha, but the bottom line is you are going to have a great time. Stick with clinicas in the afternoon and boates at night and trust your instincts when it comes to picking up right girl.
P.S. Most, if not all hotels in SP are girl friendly. I have never had a problem bringing back girls to any SP hotel that I have booked. Just make sure your reservation is for 2 people.
RickyRick95
11-21-23, 15:11
Scandallo (Nov 18):
Got to the club at 7 pm on the dot. Entry was $R300 all consumable. There were maybe less than 40 girls and much less men. Number went up during the course of the night but less than typical levels for this place. At 11 pm there were maybe about 100 or so girls. Not lot of pretty girls, mostly average looking ones you can find at Casarao but dressed nicely to Scandallo standards. I spoke to 3 girls and they all happen to be named Ana (20 yo, 23 yo and a 30 yo). That's a first and I doubt it will ever going to happen again. 20 yo cutie started with a very reasonable $R1000 and agreed for $700 for standard service. It was a satisfying typical season.
Leaving to Rio tomorrow and will return to SP next Sunday. I will post reports in Rio forum.Great report, hopefully when I visit scandallo it offers better quality and quantity, but I am sure as it will be my first time going it will be amazing for me no matter what, as I have not visited nothing even remote similar to scandallo previously to compared it with, maybe for more experienced visitors after a while the wow factor ends and and they can see more objectevly the regular and the great days at scandallo.
I am going to be in SP next week and it is my first time being in Brazil.
Coming from Unfortunately I will not have much time during the week and will be focused more on Saturday and Sunday.
Now what am I looking for?
Girl next doors (natural, not enhanced) and girlfriend experience. DFK with cuddles after the deed, possibly also spending more than 1 hour with a girl..For what you mentioned it seems that what you are looking for is more likely you will find it at scandallo or other similar boate. After reading several reports and first hand experiences from friends that have visited, in scandallo you get to talk to the gil buy her a drink or a meal, dance and form a certain bond or intimacy that as you mentioned later can translate in great sex, is not a direct 1 HR quick fuck if you don't want it to be, if you developed a chemistry with the girl she may stick around for more than 1 HR or if you negotiated with her she can stay an overnight at your hotel for several hours. And even maybe if that goes well you can invite her to spend the weekend with you and fuck her the rest of the weekend and have a complete GFE.
That being said I am no expert and I will be having my first trip to SP next week same as you, but from what I've read the clinicas and web freelancers can be great experiences as well, but I think not in the way you are looking for, of a more intimate GFE that does not involve sex right a way after you meet them.
If I were you I would try to go to scandallo or other similar high end boate, where is more likely you can have the kind of experiences you are looking for.
CourteousGuy
11-21-23, 18:07
For what you mentioned it seems that what you are looking for is more likely you will find it at scandallo or other similar boate. After reading several reports and first hand experiences from friends that have visited, in scandallo you get to talk to the gil buy her a drink or a meal, dance and form a certain bond or intimacy that as you mentioned later can translate in great sex, is not a direct 1 HR quick fuck if you don't want it to be, if you developed a chemistry with the girl she may stick around for more than 1 HR or if you negotiated with her she can stay an overnight at your hotel for several hours. And even maybe if that goes well you can invite her to spend the weekend with you and fuck her the rest of the weekend and have a complete GFE.
That being said I am no expert and I will be having my first trip to SP next week same as you, but from what I've read the clinicas and web freelancers can be great experiences as well, but I think not in the way you are looking for, of a more intimate GFE that does not involve sex right a way after you meet them.
If I were you I would try to go to scandallo or other similar high end boate, where is more likely you can have the kind of experiences you are looking for.During the week I will very likely not have the option to stay out very late (e. G. Scandallo), so I don't know what good options are for such a scenario. Same is true for Sundays.
From reading the forum I am also far from an expert. Maybe the more experienced part of the community will be able to offer guideance to the novices.
How long a bus ride is it from Sao Paulo to Rio? There is no wrong or right way to do this. It's all a matter of personal preference. For the extra several hundreds of dollars I would personally substitute a couple of Scandallo and boate visits with Moema clinicas, even if the lineups were not as you put it "weak" in the boates. The good news is bus travel is known to be much safer in Brazil than it is in the Andes.It's about 6 hours. I second the 1001 bus. The easiest way to get the ticket is to go to the station and get it from the computer terminal if there is one or just go to any counters to buy it. I choose the sleeper but it costed around 250 when I bought it from the terminal.
How long a bus ride is it from Sao Paulo to Rio? There is no wrong or right way to do this. It's all a matter of personal preference. For the extra several hundreds of dollars I would personally substitute a couple of Scandallo and boate visits with Moema clinicas, even if the lineups were not as you put it "weak" in the boates. The good news is bus travel is known to be much safer in Brazil than it is in the Andes.Travel time is about 6 hours. The way I see it is little bit over 2 x of air travel time (flight time of 1 HR, get to airport 1-1. 5 hours in advance especially if you have luggage to checkin + waiting for bags at destination). I am never that pressed for time so I have no problem spending 6 hours especially early in the day as I usually don't have any activities planned before noon. So taking an early morning bus and getting to Rio / SP by 2 or 3 pm is perfect for checking into Airbnb. I like the relatively inexpensive travel alternative BUS provides when airfares shoot up. Yes, I would say the BUS travel seens to be safe in Brazil, at least between Rio & SP. I love the ride quality of these buses, very rarely experience road bumps.
World Jockey
11-22-23, 00:38
Hopefully they'd try to get more Americans to visit, bring in US currency and thus improve their economy by reopening the clubs, bring back the good old days.This is what I'm curious about if they pivot to the dollar.
Great report, hopefully when I visit scandallo it offers better quality and quantity, but I am sure as it will be my first time going it will be amazing for me no matter what, as I have not visited nothing even remote similar to scandallo previously to compared it with, maybe for more experienced visitors after a while the wow factor ends and and they can see more objectevly the regular and the great days at scandallo.It should be fine. Every club has its slow days but a slow day at Scandallo would be lot better than a slow day at other clubs. Hands down it is the (most luxurious) place with such high number of girls I have seen. I would like to know if any other place beats it. I am sure you will enjoy the place.
It should be fine. Every club has its slow days but a slow day at Scandallo would be lot better than a slow day at other clubs. Hands down it is the (most luxurious) place with such high number of girls I have seen. I would like to know if any other place beats it. I am sure you will enjoy the place.I think photo cafe doesn't get enough attention on this thread. I know it doesn't compare in size, ambiance, quantity and variety. But nevertheless its a very nice venue with a high end night club feel, decent restaurant and a high concentration of very beautiful and high-class girls available for takeout. If I had just one day SP, sure Scandallo is the first spot to hit. But if I had two days, Photo Cafe would certainly be next on the list.
That's good to know. That policy made it a lot better and made it more flexible to visit, but ever since hearing that they got rid of that ability to come back. Made it very inconvenient. I'm going to visit that place again and then make sure to ask them if they will allow this.
Those were elevated and amended F1 pricing / schedule.
Normally it's.
M-F, 300 beforen7 pm all consumption and 500 after 7 pm, 300 consumption.
Saturday, 350 before 7 pm, 300. Consumption and 500 after 7 pm, 300 consumption.
Basically a 200 cover after 7 pm M-F and on Saturday, it's a 50 cover before 7 and 200 after. It's easy to spend 300 consumption, which you can spend on food, drinks, tobacco products, etc.
But they have raised their cover / min consumption at least 2 x since 2021. So best to just ask them on Whatsapp or IG a week before you arrive. You can find their info on their website. Which you can find via google..
This is straight from Scandallo. I am not sure that 50 more in enforced on Saturday as I wasn't changed for extra before but that's what is written.
Axel Heyst
11-22-23, 16:18
I think photo cafe doesn't get enough attention on this thread. I know it doesn't compare in size, ambiance, quantity and variety. But nevertheless its a very nice venue with a high end night club feel, decent restaurant and a high concentration of very beautiful and high-class girls available for takeout. If I had just one day SP, sure Scandallo is the first spot to hit. But if I had two days, Photo Cafe would certainly be next on the list.I have only been to Photo Cafe one time, so I have not yet formed a definitive opinion of the place. Here are some of my 1st impressions: 1. It is nice looking bordello with a Hi class look and feel. 2. No rooms so no room fee. 3. Girls are reasonably attractive and of various shapes, sizes ect, although I did not see any straight out "stunners" when I was there, I did see 3 or 4 girls out of 15 to 20 girls hanging around that were definitely "good looking" enough to want to call over. 4. So obviously, Photo does not have as many girls as Bomboa. 5. Photo is set up more the Bahamas Club in this respect although with a different decor and Bahamas has rooms (and room fees).
My experience at Photo: I arrived around 9:30 pm Wednesday night and got fingerprinted. The 1st girl I called over was a pretty brunette and I liked her, but my interest began to wane when she first quoted me in Dollars. Said she wanted "300" so I agreed to 300 BR. Let's go! That threw her for a second or two and then she said, "Oh, you want to pay in BR" and we got down to a simple price negotiation. She wanted 1500. I smiled and offered 700. She agreed, but then tried to upsell me on buying dinner before we went to my hotel which I was not into, so I ended the interview and found a different girl. The next girl was a very friendly, thin, blond with natural ta ta's and some tattoo work. She did not care about drinks or dinner. We fooled around a little on the outdoor terrace. She quoted me in BR. She asked for 1000. I offered 700. She smiled and kind of pleaded for 800 so I caved LOL. We fooled around in the taxi like teenagers, and I had a great time with her back at my hotel. She was pretty great!
So WIR? Sure, I will give the place another try. The more viable boates with pretty girls the better.
Just a little FYI. Might help someone. I just returned from Tangara. It has changed from when I first started going in 2017. At that time all the girls would come through the waiting room on a rotation. If you wanted them to they would sit with you for a while and you could discuss the weather or the services they were willing to do. Some of it had to do with my wingman but here is how it has changed. Every now and then one or two girls will walk through the waiting room and introduce themselves to you. It appears a lot of the arrangements are online with guys scheduling the girl before they arrive at the place. They have two phone numbers with lists, one with client input and one without. I prefer the one without. You can contact them and they will give you the WhatsApp numbers.
Since I have a girl coming in the morning and the one I wanted went to a session shortly after I got there, I declined to partake and went to my apartment. There were several very pretty ones there tonight.
My experience at Photo: I arrived around 9:30 pm Wednesday night and got fingerprinted. This for me is a red flag with Cafe Photo, and the first reason I wouldn't recommend it. I'm personally not all that comfortable with a brothel having my biometric data. The second reason it loses points is their lack of rooms. While I like having girls back to my place, its nice to have the first time be in a more controlled environment. Also as mentioned it has far fewer girls than Scandallo, but with similar prices. IMO all of these factors combine to make it a much less talked about club.
CourteousGuy
Scandallo would definitely be my recommendation for Saturday, and any other night you can manage it. There are a decent number of girls who speak English, though its still not a ton. If English is a top priority I'd say Bomboa isn't a bad idea, though I'm hesitant to talk someone out of going to Scandallo. At Bomboa you'll get seated by a waiter who will bring you drinks, and my regular guy would always make suggestions for girls and bring them over for me to talk to. When I first started going there he assumed I wanted English speakers, and while it wasn't a big deal for me either way, for you it sounds like it would be easier than Scandallo where you're going to have to pick girls at random and hope for the best. One thing to note is most of the best girls are on the floor by 9-10 pm, so you could conceivably talk to someone for an hour, go upstairs for an hour, and still be back at your hotel by 12:30-1. I don't know if that's too late to be out for your schedule.
On Sunday you're going to have a much harder time, as most of the clubs are closed. Some Clinicas will be open during the day, and while you can definitely have a good time its a quick in / out experience. The girls will typically be passionate and fun, but once your time is up that's it. Tangara and Yankin are my favorites and they both have bars you can hang out at, but without Portuguese you're not going to be able to socialize all that well. Casarao is open and it can get good later, but its fairly dead before 12 am. There are a handful of girls who speak English there as well, but its far fewer than Scandallo. Additionally while they may be flirty and make you feel desirable in the run up to sex, once you're done with the room I wouldn't expect much after that. Casarao being cheaper, the girls typically need to hustle more and see multiple customers, while at Scandallo most girls are fine with just one, and as a result don't mind spending more time with you before / after.
Lastly you might want to consider getting a girls contact information and just planning to spend time with her on Sunday if you're really looking for an experience beyond sex. I've personally found overnights tend to run around 1500-1700, so you could probably arrange a lunch date and afternoon of fun for a similar rate. If you can manage to get out a few times during the week, you can likely find someone who fits your needs well. Hopefully that helps.
It's been this way for at least a couple of years that I'm aware of, and not only at Tangara. Guys call or whatsapp appointments with girls. As you stated, it really limits access to the girls. That's a real problem for guys on a tight schedule who need to squeeze sessions in between business commitments. For me Tangara is still a valuable part of the Vila Mariana triangle with Yankin and the a few doors down the hill from it.
Just a little FYI. Might help someone. I just returned from Tangara. It has changed from when I first started going in 2017. At that time all the girls would come through the waiting room on a rotation. If you wanted them to they would sit with you for a while and you could discuss the weather or the services they were willing to do. Some of it had to do with my wingman but here is how it has changed. Every now and then one or two girls will walk through the waiting room and introduce themselves to you. It appears a lot of the arrangements are online with guys scheduling the girl before they arrive at the place. They have two phone numbers with lists, one with client input and one without. I prefer the one without. You can contact them and they will give you the WhatsApp numbers.
Since I have a girl coming in the morning and the one I wanted went to a session shortly after I got there, I declined to partake and went to my apartment. There were several very pretty ones there tonight.
Six hours is not so bad really.
Travel time is about 6 hours. The way I see it is little bit over 2 x of air travel time (flight time of 1 HR, get to airport 1-1. 5 hours in advance especially if you have luggage to checkin + waiting for bags at destination). I am never that pressed for time so I have no problem spending 6 hours especially early in the day as I usually don't have any activities planned before noon. So taking an early morning bus and getting to Rio / SP by 2 or 3 pm is perfect for checking into Airbnb. I like the relatively inexpensive travel alternative BUS provides when airfares shoot up. Yes, I would say the BUS travel seens to be safe in Brazil, at least between Rio & SP. I love the ride quality of these buses, very rarely experience road bumps.
CourteousGuy
11-23-23, 07:50
CourteousGuy
Scandallo would definitely be my recommendation for Saturday, and any other night you can manage it. There are a decent number of girls who speak English, though its still not a ton. If English is a top priority I'd say Bomboa isn't a bad idea, though I'm hesitant to talk someone out of going to Scandallo. At Bomboa you'll get seated by a waiter who will bring you drinks, and my regular guy would always make suggestions for girls and bring them over for me to talk to. When I first started going there he assumed I wanted English speakers, and while it wasn't a big deal for me either way, for you it sounds like it would be easier than Scandallo where you're going to have to pick girls at random and hope for the best. One thing to note is most of the best girls are on the floor by 9-10 pm, so you could conceivably talk to someone for an hour, go upstairs for an hour, and still be back at your hotel by 12:30-1.Thanks for the Info JZeleznik!
I will give Scandallo a shot if I can manage it. From what I've read the going rate there is around 700 ish, which makes me lean towards overnigjt / longer service in general. (No time pressure, getting to know her better).
Is there like an option at Scandallo or even at Casaro to have the room longer (and at what price?) or do you usually then head out to your hotel?
I assume most of everything is paid via credit card, aside from the girls. How much money do you usually bring to such a night out? (Is it unwise to bring all cash?
I will also put Bamboa on my list, as it sounds like an easy option to talk to a few english speaking girls.
Tangara is on my list already and I will add Yankin then.
Sunday might be rough yes. If I am unlucky, I will give escort (maybe via photoacomp) a shot.
I think I will need to go to all locations via Uber or Taxi, as I've heard some areas might not be the safest to walk around alone.
Kind regards,
C.
Axel Heyst
11-23-23, 15:15
Yeah, Cafe Photo's fingerprint entry requirement is dumb, and it deterred me from going there for a longtime, but I eventually caved out of curiosity and I will have to live with the risk. But like I said in my previous post, Bahamas is a very similar type of boate. The main difference is Bahamas has rooms and the only entry requirement is your driver's license. So, if you are seeking a smaller, Hi class, boate experience, then either Bahamas or Cafe Photo would have what you are looking for.
This for me is a red flag with Cafe Photo, and the first reason I wouldn't recommend it. I'm personally not all that comfortable with a brothel having my biometric data. The second reason it loses points is their lack of rooms. While I like having girls back to my place, its nice to have the first time be in a more controlled environment. Also as mentioned it has far fewer girls than Scandallo, but with similar prices. IMO all of these factors combine to make it a much less talked about club. No rooms are a plus and a minus depending on how you look at it. As I pointed out in my previous post, no rooms mean no room or exit fees. That is a good plus. But like you, I have grown used to the SP Boate in-house way and now I prefer doing my "new" boate girls in the boate first. Then if we click, I will get her WhatsApp number and we will start to see one another at my hotel.
But, preferring in-house Boate sessions with my first time boate girls is not a security issue for me. It is more like the idea of having a good time spending a night out at a boate doing boate things; like looking around / checking out the girls, having a couple drinks, an audition or two if needed, boom boom upstairs, dinner afterwards, and then depending on how one feels, there is always the possibility of having another girl to round out the evening. So, I love spending the night at my 2 favorite boates; Scandallo & Bomboa.
That said, I don't have a problem with no room venues. It is a different set up that is all. I have been taking bar girls & go go girls back to my hotel room for 25 years. Only on very rare occasions have I had a service problem with a girl, and I show her the door, but other than that, I have never had a serious problem bringing a "new" girl back to my place. The key here, as far as boate girls are concerned, is that a Boate girl has a known identity, so she would have to be out her mind to try something criminal on a new customer in his hotel room. So, it is a very rare event. Still, it is a really good idea to lock up all valuables before going out. KKK.
DreamCarnarvon
11-23-23, 16:36
Just a little FYI. Might help someone. I just returned from Tangara. It has changed from when I first started going in 2017. At that time all the girls would come through the waiting room on a rotation. If you wanted them to they would sit with you for a while and you could discuss the weather or the services they were willing to do.I haven't really noticed much of a change to Tangara's operation. There are still usually 2 gerentes on shift and I have always been shown the lineup of all the available girls. Never had a problem whenever I ask to talk to the girls about their services. Because it can get quite busy there, its best to go when you are not in a hurry and willing to wait for 1 hour or more. That way if the girl you like gets taken, you can then ask to be the next one up. Just don't expect you will get the girl you want as soon as you walk in. Another strategy is to scout beforehand, take note of the girl (s) you want to do, then keep an eye on their daily whatsapp status to schedule for an appointment ahead of time.
At Yankin, which I consider to be the sister clinica of Tangara, things are not as organized. They can be even more busier than Tangara and therefore the gerentes aren't always attentive to the clients simply because they are either busy answering phones or coordinating sessions. Here, the gerents aren't going to actively come up to you to ask if you have an appointment, offer the presentation or asking you which girl (s) you liked in the presentation. Bottom line is, time and patience is a must at any clinica.
Axel Heyst
11-23-23, 17:29
I will give Scandallo a shot if I can manage it. From what I've read the going rate there is around 700 ish, which makes me lean towards overnigjt / longer service in general. (No time pressure, getting to know her better).But if you never met a particular girl before, and you do not know how well the two of you are going to relate, how do you know you want to go LT with her? I would rather stick around the club and have two sessions with 2 different girls.
I assume most of everything is paid via credit card, aside from the girls. How much money do you usually bring to such a night out? (Is it unwise to bring all cash?I always use CC's to pay the Boate tab and hotel charge and I usually bring 1000 to 1200 BR cash with me to Scandallo just in case I start flirting with a Tier 1 girl, ha ha, and decide she is the one. I usually bring 800 BR to Bomboa and only 600 BR to Casarao. But here is the beauty of the boate system: let's say I go to Scandallo some Thursday night around 9:30 pm with 1200 BR and a credit card in my wallet. My 1st session for 800 BR with a real nice girl next door type was very passionate so I invite the girl to dinner. After dinner we part company and I wander around and in a little while I spot a pretty spinner sitting all alone. I say Hi and yada yada yada we are having a good time near the back of the outdoor patio bar. I want her and she wants 800. I only have have 400 left. No problem. I charge 400 to the CC, but I make sure to do this as we are leaving. I will never pay a boate girl in advance.
P.S. Sundays and National holidays are no problem for me. I always set aside these slow nights for Valeria, my current favorite Brazilian girl and a few other top contenders.
That said, I don't have a problem with no room venues. It is a different set up that is all. I have been taking bar girls & go go girls back to my hotel room for 25 years. Only on very rare occasions have I had a service problem with a girl, and I show her the door, but other than that, I have never had a serious problem bringing a "new" girl back to my place. The key here, as far as boate girls are concerned, is that a Boate girl has a known identity, so she would have to be out her mind to try something criminal on a new customer in his hotel room. So, it is a very rare event. Still, it is a really good idea to lock up all valuables before going out. KKK.Boate girls have a known identity, yes, that may be true. I live in SP and I've noticed this trend happening to associates in town for maybe a week or two on business. They'll hook up with a boate girl at the boate, and find a regular. Later they arrange for the girl to come over to their place. Once there they'll drug you or in the case of a friend, knock you over the head with a blunt object. Then they rob you of your laptop, mobile, clothing, cash, or anything of value.
The victim will call the cops, but they do nothing. The victim goes back to the boate to complain about the girl. Management will say she was working independently and there's nothing they can do. In actuality, it was a setup from the jump and the house gets a cut.
Cheers, stay toxic my friends!
FlowState985
11-23-23, 19:43
Yeah, Cafe Photo's fingerprint entry requirement is dumb.You can decline fingerprint. They said they want to do it so it's faster to check people in, but you just tell them you don't want to do it and show them your ID.
Since first week of November (for formula 1), Cafe Photo has the rooms available inside. When you walk from the corridor to enter you have club reception on the left (as before) and hotel reception on the right. The cost for room fee is 350 reais x hour (more than in Scandallo, now fixed at 300 reais x h). The rooms are a bit smaller than Scandallo room but still very confortable (TV screen were still missing but guess will be installed soon in each room).
Now if you want to take out the girl is still an option but you have to pay the exit fee (about 350 reais) which was not due before because of room's absence.
Girls were about 80+ and on average they start from 1,5 k reais and down to 1 k after negotiation.
Bahamas is far behind in term of number of girls, luxury, and beautiness. Of course is cheaper.
Axel Heyst
11-23-23, 22:14
You can decline fingerprint. They said they want to do it so it's faster to check people in, but you just tell them you don't want to do it and show them your ID.I discussed the fingerprint issue with the manager when I first arrived at Cafe Photo back in June 2023 and I offered him my ID, but he said the fingerprint method was faster and better for subsequent visits and he insisted on my fingerprint for this visit. I thought he was talking total bull crap at the time, so it would not surprise me if Cafe Photo has dropped their very dumb entry requirement. I am sure it has hurt business. Can anyone confirm FlowStates reported change in Cafe Photo's entry requirement?
Axel Heyst
11-24-23, 06:38
Since first week of November (for formula 1), Cafe Photo has the rooms available inside. When you walk from the corridor to enter you have club reception on the left (as before) and hotel reception on the right. The cost for room fee is 350 reais x hour (more than in Scandallo, now fixed at 300 reais x h). The rooms are a bit smaller than Scandallo room but still very confortable (TV screen were still missing but guess will be installed soon in each room).
Now if you want to take out the girl is still an option but you have to pay the exit fee (about 350 reais) which was not due before because of room's absence.
Girls were about 80+ and on average they start from 1,5 k reais and down to 1 k after negotiation.
Bahamas is far behind in term of number of girls, luxury, and beautiness. Of course is cheaper.A very interesting update, Rio. The problem with Cafe Photo's new business strategy of charging customers more (1. The new room or exit fee 300 and 2. The latest avg price for boom boom 1000 although the 200 increase since I was there might be due to F1 _ I don't know) is that it makes a visit to Cafe Photo more expensive than say a visit to Scandallo limiting one's selection to only Scandallo girls of similar quality to the girls at Cafe Photo ie well dressed, tier 2 type girls. So, in effect for similar quality, Cafe Photo is pricing their product and services above those at Scandallo. Good luck with that.
But maybe the management knows something not mentioned so far in the discussion. Location, Location, Location. A lot of businessmen stay in those 4* & 5* hotels near or on Av. Das Naes Unidas in Brooklin. An Uber from the Hilton to Cafe Photo takes 10 to 15 minutes at 9 pm whereas an Uber from the Hilton to Scandallo usually takes 30 to 40 minutes. I would do the Scandallo trek 29 out 30 times, but I am sure there are businessmen staying around Av. Das Naes Unidas who are tired, bored, and don't want to take a long taxi ride just to get a little something before going to sleep.
FlowState985
11-24-23, 06:58
I discussed the fingerprint issue with the manager when I first arrived at Cafe Photo back in June 2023 and I offered him my ID, but he said the fingerprint method was faster and better for subsequent visits and he insisted on my fingerprint for this visit. I thought he was talking total bull crap at the time, so it would not surprise me if Cafe Photo has dropped their very dumb entry requirement. I am sure it has hurt business. Can anyone confirm FlowStates reported change in Cafe Photo's entry requirement?I was there in late Sept / early Oct. I didn't have to do fingerprint and so was two other peoples I was with.
Bahamas is far behind in term of number of girls, luxury, and beautiness. Of course is cheaper.I was surprised to hear someone put Bahamas Club on par with Cafe Photo. In my opinion Scandallo is in a league of its own followed by Cafe Photo and Bomboa. Then Connection Nightclub next, followed by Bahamas Club and Casaroa both being on the same level in terms of quality of girls, luxury, comfort, etc. Well Bahamas Club may be more comfortable than Casarao actually, but I didn't see any girls I liked at either establishment, whereas the others never failed in that regard.
Axel Heyst
11-24-23, 14:23
I was there in late Sept / early Oct. I didn't have to do fingerprint and so was two other peoples I was with.Good info. Thanks.
Axel Heyst
11-24-23, 18:48
I was surprised to hear someone put Bahamas Club on par with Cafe Photo. In my opinion Scandallo is in a league of its own followed by Cafe Photo and Bomboa. Then Connection Nightclub next, followed by Bahamas Club and Casaroa both being on the same level in terms of quality of girls, luxury, comfort, etc. Well Bahamas Club may be more comfortable than Casarao actually, but I didn't see any girls I liked at either establishment, whereas the others never failed in that regard.This is an excellent example of YMMV. I started going to Bahamas last year when one of my Scandallo girls texted me that she had just started to work at Bahamas and asked if I would come by to see her. This girl is a very tall 6 ft, slender blond, with a very pretty face, and she is simply fantastic in bed. I did not pay much attention to the other Bahamas girls when I would visit, but a few of them looked session worthy to me hence my opinion.
My favorite Boates are 1. Scandallo and 2. Bomboa. I have never been to Connection. I really should go! And I like Casarao, but usually I can't wait until midnight, so I end up going somewhere else earlier.
Hi Folks, now that everyone is talking about Cafe Photo from long time, we can show you how exactly looks like the way from Dorado Shopping area to Cafe Photo by Uber. A very short trip.
https://youtu.be/CpMlscdOtaA
The thing is Cafe Photo has wealthy locals as clients, and as someone has just mention, Cafe Photo can be compared to Scandallo or Bomboa that are apples. But not to Casarao or Bahamas that are much more like potatoes.
If you hit the place after midnight you can be very disappointed 'cause you'll find an empty place. You'll find the talent in a very narrow early time frame. Mostly around 10 pm and 12 pm.
The uber driver was kind of surprised i was going to Cafe Photo ... very fun conversation at the end of the video. Send me a PM if you have questions.
RickyRick95
11-24-23, 22:10
Hello everyone, as I mentioned in my previous posts next week I will be venturing to SP finally and I have noticed and slight inconvenience with my airbnb. I was planning to visit Scandallo early to chill for a couple of hours with my buddy see the talent and then at around 11-12 pick our girls, invite them a couple of drinks and hopefully after a couple of hours of having a nice time getting to know each other, I manage to negotiate the girl for a "pernoite"/ overnight for would I hope be a reasonably price R1200-R1500 max.
Now the problems is that I just realize my airbnb doesn't allow visits if they are not registered before hand with the owner and I believe even requiring to paying a fee for the visit if they stay overnight. Obviously that is a big issue if a try to bring a random girl around 2 am. I don't believe I could be able to sneak a girl from the doorman and even worse at that hour and also I don't want to get in trouble with the management and get kick out or worse.
So what I was planning to do was to go to a lovel motel / hotel with the girl if they agree for a pernoite, spend the night with her and after having breakfast return to my airbnb. The idea would be that my buddy and I manage to get both of us a girl for a pernoite and both couples go to the same love motel just so we can stay close by and have each others back in case we need it.
Sorry for the long preview but what I would appreciate from you guys is a recommendation for a lovel motel that is not to expensive R100-200, good decente quality and in a safe neighborhood preferably close to Moema, Vila Olimpia or Itaim Bibi.
I decided to try to get a "pernoite"/ overnight deal as it seems to be the best bang for your buck that you can get as the girl will spend with you in worst case scenario 3-4 hours and up to 10-12 hours if there is chemistry and a good vibe acording to past reports I've read, for 30% or max 50% more than the 1 hour rate.
Once again appreciate the support.
Now if you want to take out the girl is still an option but you have to pay the exit fee (about 350 reais) which was not due before because of room's absence.
Girls were about 80+ and on average they start from 1,5 k reais and down to 1 k after negotiation.
Bahamas is far behind in term of number of girls, luxury, and beautiness. Of course is cheaper.I was considering visiting the place after few members confirmed that finger printing is now optional. But with their room, entry & exit prices and most importantly not so high talent numbers makes Scandallo a better place to visit.
I have visited Bahamas once, disappointed with quality & number of girls present. No plans to visit the place again. I prefer Casarao over Bahamas.
CourteousGuy
11-24-23, 22:49
But if you never met a particular girl before, and you do not know how well the two of you are going to relate, how do you know you want to go LT with her? I would rather stick around the club and have two sessions with 2 different girls.
That is of course a fair point. I guess I will just have to go by how I feel and how she is.
I always use CC's to pay the Boate tab and hotel charge and I usually bring 1000 to 1200 BR cash with me to Scandallo just in case I start flirting with a Tier 1 girl, ha ha, and decide she is the one. I usually bring 800 BR to Bomboa and only 600 BR to Casarao. But here is the beauty of the boate system: let's say I go to Scandallo some Thursday night around 9:30 pm with 1200 BR and a credit card in my wallet. My 1st session for 800 BR with a real nice girl next door type was very passionate so I invite the girl to dinner. After dinner we part company and I wander around and in a little while I spot a pretty spinner sitting all alone. I say Hi and yada yada yada we are having a good time near the back of the outdoor patio bar. I want her and she wants 800. I only have have 400 left. No problem. I charge 400 to the CC, but I make sure to do this as we are leaving. I will never pay a boate girl in advance.
P.S. Sundays and National holidays are no problem for me. I always set aside these slow nights for Valeria, my current favorite Brazilian girl and a few other top contenders.Thanks for the pointers. Moneywise it sounds like a reasonable approach and I will likely copy it.
Current list / plan:
Clinicas:
Tangara & Yankin.
Boate / Clubs:
1 x Scandallo, maybe Bamboa & Casaro.
Escorts & independents:
If time is short, I have found 2 or 3 who seem to be very much to my liking. Tempted but I'll see if it will haben.
DreamCarnarvon
11-25-23, 06:46
Sorry for the long preview but what I would appreciate from you guys is a recommendation for a lovel motel that is not to expensive R100-200, good decente quality and in a safe neighborhood preferably close to Moema, Vila Olimpia or Itaim Bibi.Not an expert on love motels but you can try the Queen's Motel (Rua Baronesa de Bela Vista, 101 - Aeroporto) It's right next to Congonhas airport with rooms starting at R110 for pernoite. Good luck with you first adventure in SP! Looking forward to reading your reports.
Now the problems is that I just realize my airbnb doesn't allow visits if they are not registered before hand with the owner and I believe even requiring to paying a fee for the visit if they stay overnight. Obviously that is a big issue if a try to bring a random girl around 2 am. I don't believe I could be able to sneak a girl from the doorman and even worse at that hour and also I don't want to get in trouble with the management and get kick out or worse.
So what I was planning to do was to go to a lovel motel / hotel with the girl if they agree for a pernoite, spend the night with her and after having breakfast return to my airbnb. The idea would be that my buddy and I manage to get both of us a girl for a pernoite and both couples go to the same love motel just so we can stay close by and have each others back in case we need it.
Once again appreciate the support.I suspect if you go have a talk with the doorman ahead of time, he would most likely allow you and your girl in. As long as you don't get reckless with it.
Just tell him you'd like to spend a night with a girl you really. He'll probably tell you it's fine before you complete your sentence.
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So what I was planning to do was to go to a lovel motel / hotel with the girl if they agree for a pernoite, spend the night with her and after having breakfast return to my airbnb. The idea would be that my buddy and I manage to get both of us a girl for a pernoite and both couples go to the same love motel just so we can stay close by and have each others back in case we need it.
Sorry for the long preview but what I would appreciate from you guys is a recommendation for a lovel motel that is not to expensive R100-200, good decente quality and in a safe neighborhood preferably close to Moema, Vila Olimpia or Itaim Bibi.....I think you can consider spending more for love motel, for the experience. You will have more fun with a nicer motel. I have not been to one for a while. I only remember Lush which I think is not far from Scandallo. If I had my buddy with me, I would look for one with connecting rooms, jacuzzi, pool or striper pole. I have never been to one in Sao Paulo that is less than 300. You do need to be careful with what the girl wants to order as the cost will add up quickly.
This is from the Cafe Photo opening date that I took a bunch of photos to share with others on WhatsApp. Similar layout to the old one but I like the old one better, it seemed more spacious.
Steve 9696
11-26-23, 00:43
Someone was asking Sunday options and obviously getting a girl from earlier in the week to go out is a great idea if you snag one. But don't forget Seeking Arrangements. It's of course best in countries that don't have amazing Boates etc. But can def work in Brasil as well. I had an AMAZING date on a Sunday in Rio. A true 9. 5 and a great 3 HR date for R400.
Haven't done SP but just browsed and plenty of hotties. Of course Seeking is a bit different than other approaches. But great fun if you like a real date. There's a whole thread on Seeking under General / dating services if you need any help navigating it.
Dcrist0527
11-26-23, 20:24
Gentlemen, forgive the somewhat amateurish questions. I have not found the right search term to answer my questions. I'm planning my 2nd trip to Brazil. Though I'll spend most of the time in Rio, from what I've read my life will be incomplete without a visit to Scandallo.
1-What is the dress code? Obviously they sell it as sophisticated. Would I be considered a slob in a nice pair of jeans and a button down shirt?
2-I read alot about "consumption" at various boates. I also read about decent food options. Can someone explain the door fee? Specifically at Scandallo. I'm wondering if you receive any part of that door fee in the form of credit for either drinks or food?
I'm going to go ahead and budget 2. 500 BRL and think that'll give me a good shot at a decent night.
Thanks in advance!
Ran across this map while planning a trip and found it amusing and somewhat useful for getting a general lay of the land.
https://hoodmaps.com/sao-paulo-neighborhood-map
Also interesting commentary for other hobby destinations around the world. Would enjoy hearing the communities input on its accuracy.
Sounds like some American kid made it.
Ran across this map while planning a trip and found it amusing and somewhat useful for getting a general lay of the land.
https://hoodmaps.com/sao-paulo-neighborhood-map
Also interesting commentary for other hobby destinations around the world. Would enjoy hearing the communities input on its accuracy.
BartSimpson5
11-27-23, 04:07
Gentlemen, forgive the somewhat amateurish questions. I have not found the right search term to answer my questions. I'm planning my 2nd trip to Brazil. Though I'll spend most of the time in Rio, from what I've read my life will be incomplete without a visit to Scandallo.
1-What is the dress code? Obviously they sell it as sophisticated. Would I be considered a slob in a nice pair of jeans and a button down shirt?
2-I read alot about "consumption" at various boates. I also read about decent food options. Can someone explain the door fee? Specifically at Scandallo. I'm wondering if you receive any part of that door fee in the form of credit for either drinks or food?
I'm going to go ahead and budget 2. 500 BRL and think that'll give me a good shot at a decent night.
Thanks in advance!1. No really serious dresscode, jeans with shirt and nice shoes sounds perfect. Just done come in a suit LOL. Jeans + some nice t shirt without any graphic would also be totally fine.
2. Speaking of weekdays, it's 300 brl entry before 7 PM, it's all consumable (you receive card and pay when leaving). After 7 PM entry 500 brl, and 300 of it consumable.
Gentlemen, forgive the somewhat amateurish questions. There appear to be no strict dress code. There are many local Asians frequent this place. I have seen some dressed like they are going to a neighborhood grocery store. Jeans and shirt is fine.
The 500 is the entry cost, 300 of it can be used to pay for most things except the hotel and the girl. Casarao has a dry entry of 30. You don't have to buy drink after that. But if you pay 50, the you get 2 free beers or drinks of equal cost. Someone posted Casarao has raised the entry cost to 60 now.
Dcrist0527
11-27-23, 13:22
There appear to be no strict dress code. There are many local Asians frequent this place. I have seen some dressed like they are going to a neighborhood grocery store. Jeans and shirt is fine.
The 500 is the entry cost, 300 of it can be used to pay for most things except the hotel and the girl. Casarao has a dry entry of 30. You don't have to buy drink after that. But if you pay 50, the you get 2 free beers or drinks of equal cost. Someone posted Casarao has raised the entry cost to 60 now.As always, Nounce, you are a very helpful member of this community. I thank you. I thought about Casaro and at least for now, I'm planning a 1-day trip to SP (from Rio) just to check Scandallo off my list. I've read alot of positives about Casaro so I'm considering maybe 2 days would be worth it.
Thanks again!
Bahamas Club. Sao Paulo. Been meaning to check this place out as I heard it was good for a Sunday night. Here's how my night went.
Arrived at 11:30 pm on Sunday, after a nice dinner with mucho vino. The entry had two options. I went with the 400 real option as it would go towards food / drink / room discount. At no time did I need to get fingerprinted or show an ID.
Upon entry, there are at least 50 women and maybe 10 guys. The place itself is quite modern and even has a second level below that wasnt even being used. Outside smoker area as well.
I chatted with one chica at first. Gorgeous body in some sexy lingerie. She had some nice implants but I could tell she was older and she wasnt shy to say that she worked there for 6 years. I eventually ditched her and chatted with another who gave me a tour of the entire club. She eventually wandered off or maybe I did. At this point it's about 12:30 am and I am throwing down drinks when a gorgeous blonde sits down next to me. She was 29, fit, with some serious bolt on tits. She also wasnt wearing any panties in her cute short skirt outfit. That's the way to my heart. After some small talk, I asked her how much to go to a room for an hour. I honestly expected her to say some silly Scandallo price but she said 600 Real. I didn't even feel like negotiating as that seemed fair for her at that time. I confirmed she did BBBJ and off we went to the desk to pick up some garbage condoms and then to a room. The room was VERY VERY nice. Mirrors on all sides as well as the ceiling. Bathroom was in great shape but we didn't even shower until after. Just straight to getting naked with tongues wandering all over each other haha. It was a fun hour with a huge pop all over her tits. Her BJ skills were full of enthusiasm but they really didn't do much for me.
They knocked on the door at least 15 minutes before the hour was up. Kinda lame and a mood killer.
After our session, her and I shared a plate of food and swapped IG info and the club was pretty much dead dead by 2/2:30 am.
Overall, the women looked ok at Bahamas. I would say there were 3 that were HOT 8/9. I got lucky with mine as I hadn't seen her all night. So either she was up in a room when I arrived or just got to the club and I was the first one she approached. The majority of the women were older, single moms, or just a bit thicker than I like.
Taco.
Darkbuck731
11-27-23, 20:48
3 Days in Sampa. Stayed near Moema train station. Very central. Walked to the Ibirapuera Mall, Clinicas, Strip Club, Faria Lima area (during daytime). Super short Short taxi ride to Bomboa & Bahama (night time so didn't walk). Cafe Photo is closed, BTW.
Clinicas & privees are the best feature of the city. Decent prices, great variety, tremendous service. And they are dispersed throughout the city so that you can stop by one after whatever daytime activity you just completed (assuming you have "the map" with all the locations already pinned). BRL 300-400 for an hour in a super clean facility with hot water in the spacious bathrooms. Masajistas have absolutely no limits. In between pops she gave a great massage. Repeated visit to the same clinica 2 days later and selected a different masseuse. After we began I decided to added an extra pair of hands. Masajista #1 (mid 20's Brazilian) would only work with one specific other masajista--a tall all-natural Japanese in her low 30's. Best $150 I ever spent.
Casaro and the club beside it were a lot of fun to drink & laugh and ogle the girls but the expense of pulling one out didn't seem worth it to me compared to the clinicas.
Skipped Scandallo as I had been there on a previous trip and didn't want the loudness. Also its pretty far out of the way from Moema and traffic is ridic. Met another traveler who likes to go there in the afternoon and enjoy the vibe as it gets increasingly more raucous.
3 Days in Guaruja.
90 minutes in an Uber to the beach. USD 40 cost. Rain killed my ability to hike or surf so resorted to their local online service for independents (called 'acompanhantes') to order incall. Pinged three. One never responded until the next day, One responded right away but ghosted after I shared my address. And the 3rd responded after an hour and was only a 10 min way away. She's staying in a house with three other vendors. Paid BRL 400 for 2 hours. Swam in the pool (in the rain) with her in between cups. Super fun, girl next door vibe but, again, had no restriction on what you wanted to do with her. Met her and two her 'roommates' the next day on the beach. Considered bringing all three back to the hotel (they were down for it) but decided to rest up for my return trip home.
Overall Verdict.
Medium. Sao Paulo is way more expensive than Medellin or DR. Also I speak Spanish but not Portuguese and very few spoke much English so it was pretty difficult to communicate the way I could in spanish-speaking Latam. Sampa traffic really makes getting around a drag and I was getting a bunch of cancellations on Uber when I tried to use (although I would eventually get a driver to show up). Guaruja was OK but not explicitly worth a trip (maybe if I had better weather.). Bottom line, if you are in the area for business, you can have a great time. But I would not recommend making a specific trip all the way to Sao Paulo as the return on investment is way lower than Rio or Medellin or Panama.
Sorry to be a bit vague. DM me for more specifics.
Bahamas Club. Sao Paulo. Been meaning to check this place out as I heard it was good for a Sunday night. Here's how my night went.
Arrived at 11:30 pm on Sunday, after a nice dinner with mucho vino. The entry had two options. I went with the 400 real option as it would go towards food / drink / room discount. At no time did I need to get fingerprinted or show an ID.
Upon entry, there are at least 50 women and maybe 10 guys. The place itself is quite modern and even has a second level below that wasnt even being used. Outside smoker area as well.
I chatted with one chica at first. Gorgeous body in some sexy lingerie. She had some nice implants but I could tell she was older and she wasnt shy to say that she worked there for 6 years. I eventually ditched her and chatted with another who gave me a tour of the entire club. She eventually wandered off or maybe I did. At this point it's about 12:30 am and I am throwing down drinks when a gorgeous blonde sits down next to me. She was 29, fit, with some serious bolt on tits. She also wasnt wearing any panties in her cute short skirt outfit. That's the way to my heart. After some small talk, I asked her how much to go to a room for an hour. I honestly expected her to say some silly Scandallo price but she said 600 Real. I didn't even feel like negotiating as that seemed fair for her at that time. I confirmed she did BBBJ and off we went to the desk to pick up some garbage condoms and then to a room. The room was VERY VERY nice. Mirrors on all sides as well as the ceiling. Bathroom was in great shape but we didn't even shower until after. Just straight to getting naked with tongues wandering all over each other haha. It was a fun hour with a huge pop all over her tits. Her BJ skills were full of enthusiasm but they really didn't do much for me.
Taco.Nice reporting on Bahamas. Have you visited any new clinicas or boates? Guys, Are you allow to take the chik out of these clubs??
What would be the fine?
Nice reporting on Bahamas. Have you visited any new clinicas or boates? Guys, Are you allow to take the chik out of these clubs??
What would be the fine?A source I consider reliable posted this last month:
Bargain newcomer in Vila Mariana.
Here at home in Medellin I earned the reputation of a Centro rat who ventures out into the world of casas from time to time. In Sao Paulo I am pretty much a full time clinica rat. But even there I stay true to my charlie cheapie tendencies by hanging around Tangara and Yakin in Vila Mariana and only occasionally going "upmarket" in Moema. The last time I was in town I was pleasantly surprised by the recently opened Clinica Zeus (they presumptively call themselves Zeus Prive). I think they have the right to the Prive claim because most of the space is in fact bar, lounge and reception with only 4 small rooms upstairs. It's just down the street from Yankin at Doutor Jose Queiroz Aranha 214. I stumbled on it when I was scrolling gp-guide before my last trip. The reviews were promising but I didn't have my hopes up very high. I decided to pull the trigger when the girl I wanted to see at Yankin didn't show up for work that day. Probably because they only opened last summer the public and session areas are noticeably nicer than Yankin or Tangara. They are on par with mid range Moema places like Red Massegems and Miruna 644. Rooms have TVs, not that I would ever turn one on. There is a comfortable lounge area with booths where I cheapskate like me can pretend he is in Scandallo or Casarao LOL! The small bar is comfortable and well stocked. The prices relative to the girl quality is highly competitive. I rate the girls on par with the 140 BRL-30 min /190 BRL-60 min staff at Tangara and Yankin, but the price is 100 BRL-30 min /180 BRL 60 min. I recommend it as a low risk way for you late night ballers to see how the other half lives. LOL.
I want her and she wants 800. I only have have 400 left. No problem. I charge 400 to the CC, but I make sure to do this as we are leaving. I will never pay a boate girl in advance.
Hey Axel, have you done this recently? I was told maybe two months ago that their credit card minimum was now R1,000. Previously I had paid many girls R800 on the card, but I switched exclusively to cash after that. I'm wondering if I was misinformed, or if the policy was rolled back.
Week in Review
I had an interesting week in town so I figured I'd report on the details, especially since there seems to be a lot of activity on the board recently. I've been hitting Casarao hard lately, typically 4-5 nights a week and two girls a night. I didn't visit the Clinicas as I normally do because of that, though after viewing some of their recent additions on the WhatsApp feed, I think I will have to change that. Anyway:
Casarao
I typically make my way there for 11:45 as of late, and even at that hour it is often a little empty. Entry is I believe R30, or R50 consumable. Two beers runs me R50 anyway, so I always take that option, though on the weekends I think it is R65 (I'm not sure if the additional R15 is consumable, for $3 I really haven't bothered to check). I found an amazing looking half German girl early in the week with perhaps the prettiest face I have ever seen in the club. Strawberry blonde hair, that slight Brazilian tan, and unbelievable blue eyes. She was 21 and brand new to Casarao, and only in town visiting for the week. I asked her how much for a half hour, and to my shock she quoted R250. Needless to say I saw her several times that week, and she was easily the highlight. I've decided that it is always better to ask the girl here for her price, as a fair number will quote R250 for the half hour, and even in the rare instance they quote you R350 or R400, they will almost always settle for a counter offer of R300. Aside from my all-star, I met a short and slim girl on Saturday with a very pretty face, perfect huge natural tits, and an amazing attitude in the bedroom. I tried to see her again on Sunday, though I can already tell she is a bit flakey. The rest of the week was filled with a mix of repeats, and decent but not spectacular first times. Sunday while I was waiting for the flakey girl, and I saw an absolute knockout walk past me. We made eye contact and smiled, but I didn't pursue and regretted it all night. She made it not five feet past me before someone scooped her up, and 15 minutes later she was gone. I only saw her once more, as she was headed out the door with someone else. The Casarao prices being what they are, if you see someone you like I wouldn't hesitate. Even if they aren't so great, its not like you're out a ton. I've definitely noticed that there are a bunch of girls new to the scene who get their start at Casarao, so there are absolutely some hidden gems to be had if you put in the time.
Casarao Cons: I definitely have a preference for Casarao now, but I wanted to highlight some of the more obvious downsides for first timers. The first is space, seating is incredibly limited and typically it is standing room only. Getting drinks and moving about can be challenging, especially as the night goes on. With that in mind and because it is one of the cheaper establishments, some of the other clients can be rude. I'm a fairly big guy and I get shoved regularly by people. That said I don't see any hostility besides the moderate rudeness, so it's not like I feel unsafe. The other con is hygiene. The rooms are not thoroughly cleaned, especially not when its busy. The girls I pick are usually pretty good with their personal hygiene, but I have been shocked by a few here. Lastly while I personally like girls with a few tattoos, you'll see a lot of girls here with massive ugly tattoos.
Scandallo
I popped into Scandallo on Thursday night, IMO typically the prime night for the club. I sat down for dinner, and it was spectacular. The food here really is impressive, and while I won't gorge myself I always love to grab a light meal and sometimes a snack a bit later. I start to make my rounds, and things are a little tight as they have live music going and its lightly raining outside which in turn limits the patio seating. I see a few girls who I have been with before, but aside from them nobody new was jumping out at me. For whatever reason the girls had a "harder" look if that makes sense, slightly older and with more work done than I have come to expect. Those girls are always present in the club, but typically there is a balance of newer and more natural ones too. I contemplate going for a repeat, but decide against it and call it an early night. I was intrigued by two girls I saw in the lobby on my way out, but they were in the process of leaving with someone. It's entirely possible that if I had stuck around longer I would have seen some girls more my taste, but with the tighter seating I didn't have it in me to hang out for hours. Despite the music event, it was still the usual R500 min with R200 of that being the cover.
I plan to make another run at Scandallo tomorrow (Tuesday), hoping for better results. As much as I love finding those gems at Casarao the environment definitely wears on me, especially when compared to Scandallo. If I can get around to it, I'll likely go earlier to try and double dip with the day shift trick. Have fun everyone!
The Critic
11-28-23, 02:04
Bahamas Club. Sao Paulo. Been meaning to check this place out as I heard it was good for a Sunday night. Here's how my night went.
Week in Review
I had an interesting week in town so I figured I'd report on the details, especially since there seems to be a lot of activity on the board recently. I've been hitting Casarao hard lately, typically 4-5 nights a week and two girls a night. I didn't visit the Clinicas as I normally do because of that, though after viewing some of their recent additions on the WhatsApp feed, I think I will have to change that. It is a pleasure reading these detailed reports. Keep up the good reporting. I look forward to reading your future adventures!!
Below are some inquires for those gentlemen obliged.
1. Does anyone ever take their "man vitamins" with them in their luggage? I was thinking of taking some extras I have with me in my luggage but reading some past reports suggested they would be flagged. These reports were from many years ago but I assume, if anything, security is even tighter now.
2. While doing the deed, whether at a clinica or boate, is one concerned when leaving your belongings unattended? For example, if at Scandallo, you and your lady friend are showering, is there a concern that someone will enter the room and steal your things?
3. I will be leaving SP on a Saturday and I have to check out of my place at 11 AM. My flight, unfortunately, is not until 9 PM. I did not have the foresight to book the place for Saturday as well and now it is not possible. I will be traveling with luggage including a laptop. Anyone have any suggestions on how to kill time after checking out of my place with luggage, etc? I've read previous reports that suggested one could go to Scandallo and check-in luggage there but my concern is how safe that is especially with a laptop. If I have to go to the airport at 11 AM it's going to be one long ass day.
J.
Below are some inquires for those gentlemen obliged.
1. Does anyone ever take their "man vitamins" with them in their luggage? I was thinking of taking some extras I have with me in my luggage but reading some past reports suggested they would be flagged. These reports were from many years ago but I assume, if anything, security is even tighter now.
2. While doing the deed, whether at a clinica or boate, is one concerned when leaving your belongings unattended? For example, if at Scandallo, you and your lady friend are showering, is there a concern that someone will enter the room and steal your things?
3. I will be leaving SP on a Saturday and I have to check out of my place at 11 AM. My flight, unfortunately, is not until 9 PM. I did not have the foresight to book the place for Saturday as well and now it is not possible. I will be traveling with luggage including a laptop. Anyone have any suggestions on how to kill time after checking out of my place with luggage, etc? I've read previous reports that suggested one could go to Scandallo and check-in luggage there but my concern is how safe that is especially with a laptop. If I have to go to the airport at 11 AM it's going to be one long ass day.
J.1) Man vitamins? I assume you are talking about Viagra and the such. These can be had over the counter in any Brazilian pharmacy. No need to bring your own if you are concerned.
2) No.
3) I posted an afternoon report at Scandello a while back. To summarize. They will hold your bag for you when you first come in. I had everything in my bag pack and nothing was missing when I got it back. You can come to Scandello at 12 pm and hang out till your flight leaves. Nothing to worry about.
Enjoy!!
CourteousGuy
11-28-23, 11:40
I made it to both Yankin and Tangara for 1 session each.
Firstly Yankin:
The manager speaks English, which made things easier. I've also found a girl who spoke English and we had a good time (girlfriend experience, lots of kissing).
There were a lot of different girls, different types and like a said, I do like the more natural, girl next door girls and I've found that.
The room I had itself are lets put it "spartanic" like a bed and a mirror, else there is nothing in it.
I usually like to have a bit more of a romantic atmosphere, don't kmow if the other rooms would be nicer.
On to Tangara:
Seems like a bit nicer place, had to use google translator.
After some time I've found a next door girl and had an okay time with her. (With kisses).
The room upstairs was also "spartanic, tough maybe a bit nicer.
I guess I will try some other locations next, maybe like red massagem or if you have other recommendations.
Will likely be on the weekend though.
If all else fails, I'll give Yankin and maybe Tangara one more shot.
A source I consider reliable posted this last month:
Bargain newcomer in Vila Mariana.
Here at home in Medellin I earned the reputation of a Centro rat who ventures out into the world of casas from time to time. In Sao Paulo I am pretty much a full time clinica rat. But even there I stay true to my charlie cheapie tendencies. I recommend it as a low risk way for you late night ballers to see how the other half lives. LOL.Thanks man. Yeh I read that post here back few pages. These are the most frequently visited and popular joints. Will chk it out during my visit. Do they have street scenes like el Centro and Santa Fe?? If they do what locations / intersections would be?? Been to el Centro few times. It's different level of an adventure for sure. Does FB work in Brazil??
CenTexCrash
11-29-23, 03:01
Been a long time hobby world wide, mainly Monterrey and Mexico City. December 2022 went to Rio liked what I saw but picked wrong dates not realizing places were closed on weekends, kind of shot myself in foot. Had been itching for a return trip to Rio. Or an equivalent. September 2023: prayers answered. Airline flash sale Austin TX Sao Paulo $335 flight. Years of backdooring around the globe out of Mexico, Houston, Dallas, so this time just jet out direct from Austin was a moral victory within itself.
With flight booked, was torn with do I land in SP and take sleeper bus to RDJ or can I find acceptable hobby scene in SP. After little to no fanfare from ISG and WhatsApp, decided on SP only.
Departed Monday, brief layover in PTY, and touched down in SP GRU at 8 am Tuesday morning. Google Maps for reasons unknown kept trying to push me towards riding the bus into town, but found terminal shuttles that take riders to a train platform that for under BR $5 tap with credit card gets eventually to Bras station and then find your station from there.
Getting around: Metro, website claimed there was a day pass for BR $24 but station employees denied existence of such a feature. The subway options were wait in line to buy single-use paper ticket each ride or skip line buy an 8 ticket card that was only sold at the Se station. Not sure why SP and RDJ's metro trains make it such pain for foreigners.
Getting around 2: Also learned (not as quickly as I should have) that Uber or blending subways and Uber are a must due to select destinations no where close to subway stations. But like other's on thread reported, after a few rides, the Uber app locked out my card for too many pending charges, likely caused by whatever bank Uber Do Brasilia goes thru. Had to add a backup credit card to soldier onward. Had similar issues in Mexico with DiDi.
Lodging: Took a chance on AirBnB 27 floor high rise in Zona Republica, booked with plus 1 just in case. So naturally, host advises of all guests register with ID, and door man at entrance so there goes that idea. Building looked new, fancy lobby and gym but the rooms looked CHEAP build. White paint, bland design, door handle to bathroom broke off. Felt like an employee break room with a mattress. Had a pool but would forget it was there oops. I honestly don't know if it was a hotel or an apartment.
Food: For some reason, places around Zona Republica only served burgers and fries and maybe personal sized pizzas. And rice goes with EVERYTHING.
Funding: Both my credit cards have No foreign transaction fees. For cash overseas, opened a debit card with Capital One, deposited a few hundred before trip, in Brazil find Bradesco and hope their ATMs are properly loaded for minimal to no fees. A few times ATMs were out / non-func but not nearly as bad as Rio previous trip.
Comm: T-Mobile with international on my main plus brought a burner phone linked via hotspot to separate civilian and hobby aliases.
Here goes:
Tuesday Day 1.
Had crazy thought process of get a cheap throwaway quickie.
Settled into Airbnb, quick shower by noon and with zero leads began looking on PhotoAC.
After deliberations that took too long, found a finalist with a few backups.
Short chick BR $100.
Lured me to Motel Ipe room Rep whatever.
Girl didn't match pics, and she said BBBJ was add BR $50 I said that wasn't discussed so told her to leave. Ate a BR $40 room fee and left.
Went to backup, casa listing individual girls in Zona Santana out of Hotel Bernardelli. One girl albeit older confirmed BBBJ and Oral Terminado were included in her price of BR $100. Got there eventually, keyword "eventually".
Lobby staff "advised" aka bait switched BR $100 for girl plus BR $50 for room. Waited for one girl. Many other girls with listings on PhotoAC were coming and going thru lobby and many with surprisingly accurate minimal touched pics these girls looked just as good in person. Started taking names to possibly return later.
Finally girl Laura shows up, pics match, she's warm friendly, but also said after I waited 45 minutes she says she's got one guy ahead of me could I wait 1 more hour. I have been at quickie hunt since noon it is now 8 pm, decided right there and then I am hungry and I've got a whole week to spend in SP so chalked off Day 1 as a giant mulligan.
Wednesday Day 2.
Looked up some higher tier sites beyond PhotoAC, but also GP forum a little aggravating to mine as many entries start page 1 dated 2008 or 2015 so have to click for most recent last page to find nothing of help.
This time ate first, did a little bit of sight seeing, acquired train card pass at the Se Station then did more online hunting. Talked to one English speaking performer via Whatsapp at the suggestion of an ISGer, but she only did tantric and I told her that wouldn't work for me, she was understanding wished me well in my SP antics.
Lined up another PhotoAC listing with a backup at Santana, listing looked promising but also not close to subway. Said 25 minute walk, thought I walk fast could do it in 12 minutes. Nope it was 25 and I was winded by time I got to door.
She was decent body slight curvy, kind of not warm, hints of rushed, BR $100 add BR $50 for anal. Between the long walk that wiped me and room with no AC, I was not able to perform. After 10 minutes of nothing, we aborted I just wanted out of there. As I was walking back to subway, backup option at Santana was messaging me was I still coming. Oh my god she was actually expecting me? I told her sorry for something coming up but heading now be there in 45 minutes.
Back to Santana / Bernadelli, met girl Flavia, she was decent. No oral terminado, no anal, but did promise nuru style massage. The actual nuru was us taking turns one at a time in shower then we began GFE and BBBJ and DATY. I guess the foreplay was so intense, popped before got chance to poke. We laughed and I got her personal number to do something at later time outside of the casa.
On way out of building, ran into new candidate immediately added to must try list: Stella. Make an excuse to come back.
Major Incident.
It was late. Got back to Republica at 11 pm later than was hoping. Walking around streets, saw closed shops, opened Google Maps to see what eateries were still open. And doing so, a bicycle bandit snatched and took off with my phone, just disbelief that I could become a statistic. My communication and navigation just gone. Ran back to hotel wi-fi to track with my burner phone but not avail. It was gone. Barely slept that night.
Day 3 Thursday.
Need a SIM card in my offline burner phone. Read up that the walkway shopping district in Republica had two Claro stores within 100 m of each other. Pre-typed a tale of woe for staff to read. First Claro told me Brazilians with CPF only and that I could to Claro's corporate office tower, pointed but not sure which building. Went to the other Claro store and lady sat me down and got me setup BR $20 for the sim card, cash only, plus BR $30 for a 30 day 20 GB plan. After 45 minutes of her enrolling me, I was on my way.
Also: without my other phone I was no longer tied into a Brazil ISG Whatsapp group chat, here on out I was flying partially blind.
Small lunch then start hunting for these clinicas. And being time is short, bite bullet and incorporate Uber into my conquest.
ISG pulled towards Miruna Spa. Found some other listings like Europe Spa and Hope Spa. Europa only had 2 girls working not sure if that was a red flag. Decided to try Hope Spa on east end. Took metro train to Tautape Station which is attached to a shopping mall and hail Uber from mall entrance to Hope Spa.
Walked into Hope and they showed me tablet of up to 16+ girls on overall roster but at this exact moment Thursday afternoon only 2 available right now now for the walk-in customer. Reception re-iterated for future cannot guarantee a walk-up but to Whatsapp phone ahead to reserve spa girls.
Picked one on screen then deal breaker. My bad. The initial price quoted, the are $270 rate was for massage only, the other quote mentioned for full session was closer to are $450, while within my purchase power I just wasn't feeling that and thanked them for stuff and bounced.
To Miruna Spa from east end. Uber back to Tautape station / mall, then metro trains to Saude station and took another Uber to Miruna Spa.
Enter building, presented lobby and waiting area. Two other guys enter, two more exit session drink bottled water before heading out. So 3 of us. Girls come out individually greet us. Decide on one girl, but reception tells me other guys just called her first. But if I'm willing to wait 15 more minutes some more girls are wrapping up and will be available soon. So I wait. And out of the next batch, pick a short young piel blanca looks like fun trouble: Denise.
She takes me to room, sets AC to 18 when her back is turned I raise it to 23, sends me into an attached shower room with opaque doors, washed but also checked to make sure my belongings weren't rifled with (they weren't for once).
I walk out of shower, Denise is already nude and she takes a separate shower. Then we do the deed of GFE, BBBJ, DATY, various positions she was partial to reverse cowgirl. Finally in doggy I blew load. I honestly amazed myself how long I lasted, compared to day prior. Did ask Denise if she had a personal to meet outside of Miruna and she promptly stonewalled me. Get dressed head downstairs and even better not only pay at end, staff decided since it was barely under limit, only charged 30 min / BR $200 BR instead of the full hour / BR $270. If you say so I guess.
Uber back to Saude subway station, train back to Republica, freshen up at hotel, its about 10 pm and get ready for tonight.
Uber out to another establishment ISG raving about: Casarao. Was short car ride over, lit up street vibes of Tijuana's Norte, Manila's Burgos Street, etc.
Entry get patted down, present ID so they can assign me a club card. Look around Casarao on a Thursday night, crowd slowly trickling in, no one stood out as fellow gringos so I'm solo here on out. One drink to start things.
It was a decent ratio of guys and girls and pretty much every girl there was available on freelance basis. Mix of some English but mostly Google Translate. No house rules, each girl sets her rates and allowances. Some cuties but their program (s) were bit too restrictive. Some girls that stood out were 30 m single pop anal and CIM allowed R300, R400, and R600. The R600 girl was a model-esque hottie, had to really think that over. It was about that time started talking more and more to the R400 girl, decent looks, fake boobs. At this point, I felt the R400 girl was going to be my Casarao session.
Named Thais. Spoke minimal almost canned English. Took me to exit where I showed entry card paid cover and two drinks with card, walked next door where room was R50 for half hour paid with card.
I asked earlier she amazingly takes card, was low on cash, had a swiper on her iPhone, typed 400 got rejected multiple times. Starting to panic. Checked email, and Chase Bank was asking me to confirm attempted swipes I said yes that was me, tried 400 again and it went thru we went in (really cramped) room.
(Note: paying card in RDJ, 4 x4 and Perola Negra you pay the desk staff, but here I am in Casarao paying FL direct and starting to wonder if that was the brightest idea. Could she alter payment later or was at ran as 400 BRL and not 400 USD? More on that later).
We do our thing, she gets undressed, pipes in some Spotify on her phone, feeling and tasting the goods. She's got questionable ink on abdomen, likely covering see-section scar, reference pics of pornstar Brittany Amber, me not a huge fan of giant tat on lower but able to work with it. Started with BBBJ then sex. Got anal at a few points. While performing DATY on her, I was stroking myself to keep it hard, but doing so regret the camshina "accidentally got loose" and upon reinsert the camshina "somehow fell to the side" while I got to feel her insides raw. I went slow to savor moment, kissed, we were into each other.
She wanted new position, pulled me out and. Busted. She realized I was going in her raw for at least a few minutes. She playfully scolded me saying that is not allowed, at least she was in good spirits. More poke, more anal, one point gave her a hand shocker, that woke her up.
Finally got down on her knees and unloaded all over her face and mouth.
We got cleaned up, took turns in shower. Got her personal number.
Walked out hotel, 1 am Thursday technically Friday morning, ordered Uber, after 6 minutes no basic Uber responding. Upped to Uber Black and 7 cars in main drag street available, hopped in back to hotel and that was that.
After bum day previously, I was amazed I lasted as long as I did in both sessions.
Day 4 Friday.
Woke up after 2 really good sessions. Took a breather and did some touristy sightseeing stuff mainly old style Sol train station and Japan Town south of station Se. It was okay. Started looking into spa action. Tried my damnest to to use online guides and reach out to spas, but again started to get quickly frustrated on how information is all over the map and possibly outdated.
Some way somehow defaulted to Zona Santana / Hotel Bernardelli. Reached out for Stella but she's off Fridays. Listing showed trios starting at BR $250. So thinking that plus BR $50 for room, lets see what a 1 hour trio procures. Even if no Stella. It was pretty much 6 pm by time I ventured that direction from Japan village. Station Santana then short walk to hotel.
Hand picked 2 girls in building: Karol, 19, short but cute looked like good trouble. Also, Vivienne, a Portuguese speaking doppleganger of porn star Nia Nacci. I don't think I've been with a black chick before, she may have been my first.
So I made it known I was here for a trio / duplex with full contact lesbian. Both girls were down for it. The dude at desk who speaks English interjects that lesbian girl-girl sex is extra feature I need to tip each girl are $50 each. Shit, I'm already here, lets go.
So we are sent upstairs to a large room to accommodate 3 people, but then AC wall unit was dead. Deal breaker. Eventually sent back downstairs to a regular sized room slightly cramped for 3 but time for session. We each took turns in the shower, I savored the moment when Vivienne got undressed (mainly since I helped her).
Karol freshly 19, soft skin no baby damage. Vivienne, once dress came off, her nice boobs did have kind of a teardrop hang, plus a small see-section scar albeit compared to disastrous scars I've seen in Mexico hers was nothing. Two minimal scuffs I can overlook.
Once dried off, duplex / trio is think man and woman playing a game of Twister but replace the colored dot game mat with a second woman's naked body, and game on. Right hand on pink boob.
Spent first 10 minutes watching these two hotties do each other, kissing, licking, going down. Something about a 19 yo giggle while she's giving DATY. Then they flipped over to BBBJ or alternating 1 BBBJ and one face ride. A few positions with Karol, then a few positions with Vivienne eventually exploding while ramming Vivienne doggy while DFK with Karol.
Asked and each girl gave me their personal for Whatsapp. Not sure what good, just wanted to see if they'd do it I guess.
Back to hotel, watched my six, no issues, and I was wiped.
Day 5 Saturday.
Needed a change of scenery, spent early afternoon at Parque Ibirapuera. Mix of subway and Uber. Also early day semi-derailed discovering if you are ever in a hurry, a KFC mall food court is NOT the most convenient / quick food option.
While exploring Japanese zen garden, more negotiations on Whatsapp. Had itch for another trio at Bernardelli. Zeroes in on Stella and Lorena get both in one sesh, and get in early to hit up Casarao later in evening.
Seemed like a great proposition on paper.
Freshened up at my hotel and headed up to Santana station. Got there just before dark.
About Lorena: legs for days, pics on PhotoAC accurate.
About Stella: speaks fluent English due to previous life living abroad in Australia, pics on PhotoAC fake they stitched her face on some stock pic HOWEVER she's got that curvy Violet Starr body going on driving me crazy. Plus she'd be great at translating in a BGG.
Made my intentions clear just as I did via Whatsapp. Both girls were busy in sessions, but should be finishing up. And so began a series that could only happen to a hobbyist in town for a few more days. Next, for two girls: Lorena decides she only does four-hand but not full-lesbian. So they intro'd me to the waiting room to meet 3 other girls willing to perform with me and Stella. None that good looking.
Decided to scrap the trip and go with just Stella. Go get sent to room. Stella slowly undresses revealing a damn good body, but then- she does not do DATY, asks if that's okay I told her I really need DATY in session. She offers to swap for Lorena. So I wait. And I wait. Starting to wonder if they forgot about me. These casa deliberations have dragged out for almost 2 hours, was planning to do to Casarao later tonight.
Finally door opens, it's still Stella. She offers "Lorena is busy. You can go down (DATY) on me. I don't let any guy eat me. But I think you're special so eat away. ".
Proceeded to eat her out for all of 15 seconds before she got sensitive. Had some hot sex, massage afterwards and that was that.
Needing food but knowing options in Republica non-existent, half way between Bernardelli and Santana metro was a Lebanese halal food joint, watched a Brazilian belly dancer, settled up and back to hotel in Republica. At was pretty much 11:30 pm by time I got back to hotel.
Wanted Casarao but also checkout is 11 am this was really pushing it.
Did a quick shower turnaround, ordered Uber black, which Uber tried to say "too many payments use different card" different card it is. Rode around 12-12:30 am Saturday night technically Sunday early morning. Saw large outdoor crowds massing huge block party not sure if norm.
Arrived, checked into Casarao. Room was 3 x filled versus Thursday night. Real challenge having to navigate crowds. Thursday night near middle a mystery door was roped off. Saturday night, door open and led downstairs to a third area more floor and more VIP booths. Guessing this is where whales get lured to sacrifice their credit scores to the party gods.
Ordered a token drink, looked at my watch realized it's almost 1 am, this is futile. So feeling this mission was lost just messed around. My bad Spanglish was useless but Google Translate and FL that spoke passing grade English came thru.
Just started feeling out girls on a hypothetical basis. Then each one bombshell asked them if willing to do BBFS. "Hell to the no" across the board, lone exception one girl said for BR $3000 (about $600 usd) she could turn a blind eye.
On that note, finished my drink tabbed out, 1:30 am Uber back to hotel. Noticed that giant block party was completely gone. Night done on grounds of inconvenient early checkout.
Day 6 Sunday.
Woke up, checked out, stored luggage with reception, all smoothly. Last day in Sao Paulo, flight at 2 am.
Entered Metro hall and heard loud chanting downstairs. Went down, and there were fans gearing up for a soccer game, chant and all. Police in full blown riot gear split apart mild civilians on front end of train with soccer hooligan cult group relegated to rear half of train. Yes, a game of soccer is taken VERY SERIOUSLY in these parts.
Metro over to Avenida Paulista which on Sundays is pedestrian only, with bicycles and street vendors everywhere (Rio's Copacabana main avenue does same thing on Sundays).
Found some cafe to eat lunch and reach out to Flavia from Wednesday night in Bernardelli asking if she'll meet later tonight. Yes she's down to meet at a different hotel, ask if I get a special send off with everything, she was firm no rawdogging. Just like that, all this week long buildup went to waste.
Next option, looked up Miruna Spa from a few days ago. Of course being on a speakeasy basis easier said than done. Eventually found them on Whatsapp. They were open on Sundays. But only 3 girls available. Not in mood to be let down.
By this time, went from Ave Paulista to Batman Alley for some reason. Looked at street art and glanced at soccer game on giant patio screen.
Pulled up another spa, Moeme Prime. They were open. Whatever let's go, Uber up.
Arrive around 5:45 pm there's 8 WG available some young some madura. All with either fugly looks or excess gangsta tats I can't stand. My feet are tired, reception lets me hang around, in Mexico they would've kicked me out but Brazil didn't seem to mind. One MILF type lady kept inching up on me, I politely said I'd "think it over" More on that later.
Two other guys in room speak English, we call watch game in overtime talk about life in USA and Brazil.
7 pm Moeme Spa has closed, all girls now in plain clothes single file punch out and exit. It is 7 pm, have not had one session all day, flight at 2 am. Time for one last bad decision. The MILF from earlier, approached her just barely 5 steps from front door with Google Translate:
"Do you meet customers outside of Spa for private sessions, keep 100% no house cut?" (Yes of course!
"You down for BBFSCIP?" (Yes! For few hours 260).
"I know this weird but do you have time right now now?" (Sure, where's your hotel?
"No hotel, just killing time before my flight. Sorry I didn't think that far ahead. " (No worries! I know of a motel, just a short walk).
Hours before flight, chance she'll rob me, why the hell not.
20 minutes of side streets and pedestrian bypass routes, starting to wonder how much longer. Eventually, keyword eventually we find Motel Palombo. Short rate is BR $125 for 4 hours or something. Room is equipped with towels, robes slippers, toiletries even toothbrushes.
We shower up freshen up, start with DFK foreplay, oral before I slide in. Missionary was the only position I was able to last the sensation was too intense unloading balls deep. Watched it all drip out.
We relaxed. Talked via Google Translate. Showered up to get ready for Round 2. I needed recharge time. About 30 minutes, thankfully she was cool with me.
Then she starts her BJ skills, mounts me cowgirl, then switch to doggy and I fired my second load also balls deep.
Showered again and we both decided as fun as it was, that making my flight was crucial at this point. Had just enough cash to cover her 260, plus also spotted her an authentic farmacia Plan-be pill from my Mexico misadventures, whether she took it or not I'm not sure. She comforted me until my Uber arrived, a little after 9 pm car pulls up and began my next great escape: Uber to Saude metro stop, ride to Republica metro, short walk to hotel to fetch luggage. Their system already deleted my facial recognition so slight delay. Got luggage pushing 10:20 pm, another Uber to Bras metro station, two very long train rides to GRU then the shuttle bus from the train exit to Terminal 3. Was about 12:30 am when I got to the Copa Air check-in, passport control at near 1 am was uneventful, boarded flight and off I went. And that concluded my $335 flight to Sao Paulo.
Aftermath / observations:
-That Casarao girl I paid via card? It did in fact get ran as 400 BRL and not 400 USD, even funnier it showed up on my invoice as her full first middle last name. Lulz glad no joint account. Yet.
-Comparing Sao Paulo to Mexico City, as far as locales, streets, metros, CDMX has a 50/50 blend of Spanish names phrases (Juarez, Zaragoza, Madero, etc) and indigenous names phrases (Azteca, Tlapan, Toluca, etc) Meanwhile, SP had little to no indigenous presence and end result is all Portugues all the time.
-Brazil, Sao Paulo especially, in 20th century lured in people from Europe even Asia to start a new better life. Many and their descendants are still there making up much of SP. If you took photos of crowd scenes and asked people which pic is New York and which is Sao Paulo, they probably couldn't tell them apart.
Overall take on the hobby in Sao Paulo from first timer view:
-City is HUGE. Need to break down to smaller quadrants / sectors / zones and make a true game plan to plan day's hobby and fall back options within one zone each day. Thinking you can just skip and hop from east end to CGH think again.
-watch your belongings at night! That was a nice phone.
-Spanish is NOT Portuguese so get Google Translate ready.
-Resources / directories / maps bloated with too much irrelevant fluff punter (s) could really do without. Message boards chronologically ordered old to new were an absolute PITA. Maps relegated to 640 x640 screenshots also major taboo. No single centralized black book of clinicas / boates.
-Hobby most effective if tagging along with an experienced wingman guide in person, otherwise spinning wheels piecing together intel.
-Would I go back? Difficult to say. I went purely because I was itching for a re-do of Rio's 4 x4 and was gifted a $335 flight from Texas to Sao Paulo. I thought SP could be imitation Rio De Janeiro (to an extent that is true) Often times wonder if I was better off landing and immediately take sleeper bus from SP to RDJ and spent my trip there instead. The looming threat of Americans paying to enter starting Jan 2024 isn't helping either. Neither is getting my phone swiped.
The Critic
11-29-23, 04:22
Been a long time hobby world wide, mainly Monterrey and Mexico City. December 2022 went to Rio liked what I saw but picked wrong dates not realizing places were closed on weekends, kind of shot myself in foot. Had been itching for a return trip to Rio. Or an equivalent. September 2023: prayers answered. Airline flash sale Austin TX Sao Paulo $335 flight. Years of backdooring around the globe out of Mexico, Houston, Dallas, so this time just jet out direct from Austin was a moral victory within itself.This was a good read. You're recounting your adventures in stunning detail. The Highs and Lows of your trip. I felt like I was on a rollercoaster. Rooting for you only to read your recount of disappointment then happy when you recount your successes. Glad your phone bandit incident did not escalate, just property loss. It looks like you amassed a lot of lessons learned, and hopefully you're considering another SP (or RJ) trip, Try locating in a different area of SP (with more entertainment and food offerings), and as always Plan, Plan, and Plan.
DreamCarnarvon
11-29-23, 07:04
There were a lot of different girls, different types and like a said, I do like the more natural, girl next door girls and I've found that.
I guess I will try some other locations next, maybe like red massagem or if you have other recommendations.You are not going to find a lot of girl next door types in the clinicas as they cater to the Brazilian locals and they like them curvy and thick. Your best options are the two you already visited, Tangara and Yankin. You can try Clinica Abobora (Alameda dos Guaramomis, 1275). They usually have a big lineup with higher quality girls. CLínica Enjoy Spa (Rua Condessa do Pinhal, 279) is a decent place as is Red Massagem. Another good one is CLínica Anália Franco (Rua Prof. Jerônimo Azevedo, 189). FYI: most clinicas are closed on sundays.
You will find the places in Moema (Prime, Abbobora, RedMassagem etc.) have more honeymoon suite type furnishings.
I made it to both Yankin and Tangara for 1 session each.
Firstly Yankin:
The manager speaks English, which made things easier. I've also found a girl who spoke English and we had a good time (girlfriend experience, lots of kissing).
There were a lot of different girls, different types and like a said, I do like the more natural, girl next door girls and I've found that.
The room I had itself are lets put it "spartanic" like a bed and a mirror, else there is nothing in it.
I usually like to have a bit more of a romantic atmosphere, don't kmow if the other rooms would be nicer.
On to Tangara:
Seems like a bit nicer place, had to use google translator.
After some time I've found a next door girl and had an okay time with her. (With kisses).
The room upstairs was also "spartanic, tough maybe a bit nicer.
I guess I will try some other locations next, maybe like red massagem or if you have other recommendations.
Will likely be on the weekend though.
If all else fails, I'll give Yankin and maybe Tangara one more shot.
...Food: For some reason, places around Zona Republica only served burgers and fries and maybe personal sized pizzas. And rice goes with EVERYTHING....There are many good restaurants and varieties. These are the obvious ones, for example, Bar e Lanches Estado, Bar the Dona Ona and often mentioned A Casa do Porco Bar. There are many by weight buffet places that should give you enough varieties. There are some nice speakeasy bars too, like one in the dungeon of a museum, and another is a bank vault. I like this area, walking distance to almost everywhere, Japan town, China town, Italian town. The main drawback of this area is it is far from clinicas.
You can get metro card from the machine in Rio or go to an office to get it. A little more work in SP because it takes a few days processing. You can just buy 8 paper tickets and keep them for later use. The bus can be faster and can get closer to your destination. The bus schedule has real time update on Google map.
Been a long time hobby world wide, mainly Monterrey and Mexico City. December 2022 went to Rio liked what I saw but picked wrong dates not realizing places were closed on weekends, kind of shot myself in foot. Had been itching for a return trip to Rio. Or an equivalent. September 2023: prayers answered. Airline flash sale Austin TX Sao Paulo $335 flight. Years of backdooring around the globe out of Mexico, Houston, Dallas, so this time just jet out direct from Austin was a moral victory within ere instead. The looming threat of Americans paying to enter starting Jan 2024 isn't helping either. Neither is getting my phone swiped.Great report, really enjoyed reading it.
MasterOfNone
11-30-23, 01:41
Heading over to Rio next week for 10 days.
The plan is to take 2 days and stop in SP. This will be my first visit to SP.
Main reason for visit SP is to visit the famous Scandello.
Should this be my go to for those 2 days or is there somewhere else I should take time to visit.
Also, I plan to visit SP on a Tuesday and Wednesday. Are these the best two days to visit Scandello?
Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Steve 9696
11-30-23, 15:36
Heading over to Rio next week for 10 days.
The plan is to take 2 days and stop in SP. This will be my first visit to SP.
Main reason for visit SP is to visit the famous Scandello.
Should this be my go to for those 2 days or is there somewhere else I should take time to visit.
Also, I plan to visit SP on a Tuesday and Wednesday. Are these the best two days to visit Scandello?
Any feedback is greatly appreciated.No need to lock it in. You can play it by ear. Go to Scandallo. If you love it repeat. Or try something new. You are bound to find something at Casarao but be sure to specify BBBJ first as there is a condom epidemic threatening there it seems! Or try Bomboa if you like a smaller more dinner club vibe.
And of course you can double up with the Clinicas during the daytime. Seems you prob have some coin so maybe Abbobora or Enjoy or some of the higher end ones. And then hit the Boates at night. Have fun!
Should I wait until after new years? I'm thinking many of the GP will be on holiday.
Should I wait until after new years? I'm thinking many of the GP will be on holiday.I was in SP last year between Christmas and the new year. While the numbers were down slightly at Scandallo. Bomboa, and Casarao, there was still action enough and plenty of fun to be had. The only exception was NYE itself, as the boates were closed.
Been a long time hobby world wide, mainly Monterrey and Mexico City. December 2022 went to Rio liked what I saw but picked wrong dates not realizing places were closed on weekends, kind of shot myself in foot. Had been itching for a return trip to Rio. Or an equivalent. September 2023: prayers answered. Airline flash sale Austin TX Sao Paulo $335 flight. Years of backdooring around the globe out of Mexico, Houston, Dallas, so this time just jet out direct from Austin was a moral victory within itself.Wow, that's a very detailed information. I also just spent my thanksgiving week in Sao Paulo and it was a blast. At first, I was planning to go to Rio but since the plane was full, I went for the second best option. Most of the time, I only visited clinicas because is more back for the bucks although I was tempted to check out Scandallo. At first day, I went to Tokio to check out Camile and boy, she was like a firecracker! From DFK to DT and all of it, except anal. I was blown away and I told myself that I must do repeat before I leave. DC = R150 HH.
Second day, I went to Tanggara but since it's pretty early, they only have two girls and it's not my cup of tea. So, I decided to go to Yankin and pick this girl name Jenny. She told me she was 19 but we end up just cuddling and kissing for half an hour. After the phone ringing, she asks whether I want to extended but I decided not to go with it. DC = R140 HH. In the evening, I did a free walking tour in Paulista and end op at Libedarde area for some ramen (like actual ramen).
Third day, I went to Matsuri and meet Saia or Saina (I don't really remember). She was cute and the body was ok. She does everything (except anal) and very GFE. She also told me that she just graduated and majored at mortuary science but doesn't speak English. DC = R240 OH. In the evening, I went to visit Unique Spa but the place was pretty full and there's only one girl that comes out to greet me. So, I decided to went to CLnica Cancioneiro. There was nobody when I came and there was six girls there. I picked Nubia and she was one sweet and chatty girl. Even though I don't speak Porto and use google translate, she's really accommodating. DC = R160 HH.
Last Day, I went back to Tokio to meet Camile again and she looks happy to met me again. We have an half hour debauchery and at the end, I promise I will come here again to meet her. Since my flight is at midnight, I decided to check out Yankin once again and I end up with the girl that I don't even remember the names. She was pretty but since I've been ejaculating two times a day, I cannot cum anymore. After that, straight to the Airport and now I', just keep reminiscing those beautiful times. One thing that I need to look is to find girls that can speak English but so far, nadaa.
Heading over to Rio next week for 10 days.
Also, I plan to visit SP on a Tuesday and Wednesday. Are these the best two days to visit Scandello?
Short answer, yes. Wednesday is arguably the best day, and Tuesdays are often very good.
Tuesday Report
Since I'm posting anyway, I figured why not give a summary of my Tuesday at Scandallo. Sao Paulo was hit by some really strong rain right around 9 pm, and while it slows closer to 10, it doesn't show any signs of abating. I am a little nervous it may impact turnout, but decide to chance it anyway. I arrive a bit after 10 pm, and grab something to eat. Food is great as always, and plenty of girls circulate into the dining area for you to scope out. I finish up dinner, and start making my rounds. The lineup was fantastic, I really can't stress how many gorgeous women were present. I tend to by picky and with so many girls to choose from, that's really not a problem. I spot a few top prospects, and end up saying Hello to a girl next door type. She is dressed very conservatively, but I can tell she has an amazing body under her outfit. At other clubs I find sometimes once the clothes come off they were hiding something disappointing, but at Scandallo my experience has always been the opposite. Anyway, to my surprise she speaks perfect English and we end up chatting for probably a bit more than an hour. The chemistry was fairly solid, and I offer her R800 to go do an hour. I swear you would have thought I threw a drink at her based on the look on her face. She tells me she charges R1,300 for an hour, or R2,500 for an overnight. We barter a bit and she tells me she can do R1,000 but that's the absolute minimum and I mull it over briefly, but I really want to see what's under that outfit and I get the feeling she will be a lot of fun, so I say yes. We stand up and I don't know why, but I ask her to confirm that the BJ will be without a condom. I can't recall ever asking that question at Scandallo in probably 40 visits now, but something in my brain must have been working overtime because she says she only does CBJ. I tell her that's a dealbreaker, and she lets me walk over it. One girl I had previously seen 5-6 times prior for R800 was excited to see me and spent a lot of time chatting, but when I wanted to go upstairs she said she charges R1,500 now and again let me walk over it. Maybe persistence would have paid off, but being 0/2 I left. I'm positive there are women there who can be had for R600-R800, but honestly most of those girls you could find in cheaper clubs by the dozen, or even the clinicas. It really seems that my target demographic isn't taking less than R1,000.
For anyone considering it who has never been I really want to reiterate that the talent pool at Scandallo on a good night is out of this world. The amount of gorgeous women you have to select from is astounding, and I think everyone should experience it at least a few times. That said for me paying R1,000+ for the girl, another R300 for a room, and the R200 cover / R300 consumable really does not feel worth it anymore. Taking the girl out for an overnight (an additional R300 exit fee) would probably feel okay in terms of value, but for a first time I wouldn't want to commit to that. Also as an aside, the idea of getting a CBJ for R1,000 feels downright criminal. Just my personal feelings, but I think I'm closing the books on the Scandallo chapter of my life.
Short answer, yes. Wednesday is arguably the best day, and Tuesdays are often very good.
Tuesday Report
Since I'm posting anyway, I figured why not give a summary of my Tuesday at Scandallo. Sao Paulo was hit by some really strong rain right around 9 pm, and while it slows closer to 10, it doesn't show any signs of abating. I am a little nervous it may impact turnout, but decide to chance it anyway. I arrive a bit after 10 pm, and grab something to eat. Food is great as always, and plenty of girls circulate into the dining area for you to scope out. I finish up dinner, and start making my rounds. The lineup was fantastic, I really can't stress how many gorgeous women were present. I tend to by picky and with so many girls to choose from, that's really not a problem. I spot a few top prospects, and end up saying Hello to a girl next door type. She is dressed very conservatively, but I can tell she has an amazing body under her outfit. At other clubs I find sometimes once the clothes come off they were hiding something disappointing, but at Scandallo my experience has always been the opposite. Anyway, to my surprise she speaks perfect English and we end up chatting for probably a bit more than an hour. The chemistry was fairly solid, and I offer her R800 to go do an hour. I swear you would have thought I threw a drink at her based on the look on her face. She tells me she charges R1,300 for an hour, or R2,500 for an overnight. We barter a bit and she tells me she can do R1,000 but that's the absolute minimum and I mull it over briefly, but I really want to see what's under that outfit and I get the feeling she will be a lot of fun, so I say yes. We stand up and I don't know why, but I ask her to confirm that the BJ will be without a condom. I can't recall ever asking that question at Scandallo in probably 40 visits now, but something in my brain must have been working overtime because she says she only does CBJ. I tell her that's a dealbreaker, and she lets me walk over it. One girl I had previously seen 5-6 times prior for R800 was excited to see me and spent a lot of time chatting, but when I wanted to go upstairs she said she charges R1,500 now and again let me walk over it. Maybe persistence would have paid off, but being 0/2 I left. I'm positive there are women there who can be had for R600-R800, but honestly most of those girls you could find in cheaper clubs by the dozen, or even the clinicas. It really seems that my target demographic isn't taking less than R1,000.
For anyone considering it who has never been I really want to reiterate that the talent pool at Scandallo on a good night is out of this world. The amount of gorgeous women you have to select from is astounding, and I think everyone should experience it at least a few times. That said for me paying R1,000+ for the girl, another R300 for a room, and the R200 cover / R300 consumable really does not feel worth it anymore. Taking the girl out for an overnight (an additional R300 exit fee) would probably feel okay in terms of value, but for a first time I wouldn't want to commit to that. Also as an aside, the idea of getting a CBJ for R1,000 feels downright criminal. Just my personal feelings, but I think I'm closing the books on the Scandallo chapter of my life.I am a medellin / Bogota Colombia guy but also have been to sao paolo and rio 3 times as well as I just had to see for myself what everyone was raving about and I agree that the talent in looks and effort of the brasilieras is excellent but the cost / benefit ratio does not match Colombia even though too many dumb ass gringos have been polluting Colombia the last several years. I still enjoy Colombia as my homebase and Brazil as a fun trip for diversion.
The Critic
12-01-23, 03:47
It really seems that my target demographic isn't taking less than R1,000.
For anyone considering it who has never been I really want to reiterate that the talent pool at Scandallo on a good night is out of this world. The amount of gorgeous women you have to select from is astounding, and I think everyone should experience it at least a few times. That said for me paying R1,000+ for the girl, another R300 for a room, and the R200 cover / R300 consumable really does not feel worth it anymore. Taking the girl out for an overnight (an additional R300 exit fee) would probably feel okay in terms of value, but for a first time I wouldn't want to commit to that. Also as an aside, the idea of getting a CBJ for R1,000 feels downright criminal. Just my personal feelings, but I think I'm closing the books on the Scandallo chapter of my life.I just want to say, that one line is hilarious. Yea, Scandallo base / floor quotes are getting higher.
I just want to say, that one line is hilarious. I mean come on now, pull a knife and ask for my wallet like an honest crook.
FlowState985
12-01-23, 05:50
I just want to say, that one line is hilarious. Yea, Scandallo base / floor quotes are getting higher.That's because people kept paying the higher asked amount, it will continue to rise. I believe some girls said that the management are telling the girls to up their price as well.
...I did a free walking tour in Paulista and end op at Libedarde area for some ramen (like actual ramen)....Did you go to Japan House during the walking tour? There is a Japanese restaurant Aizom inside is one of the best Japanese restaurants but it only opens during day time. The irony is all the better ones are outside of Liberdade.
Aizom has a second location near Paulista that operates as a gift shop and normal restaurant. It's legit: Alameda Fernão Cardim, 39, Jd Paulista. It is very much worth a visit. It's in another whole league than the typical "festival" all you can eat places around town. I enjoy those places too but Aizom is a higher quality and more authentic experience.
Did you go to Japan House during the walking tour? There is a Japanese restaurant Aizom inside is one of the best Japanese restaurants but it only opens during day time. The irony is all the better ones are outside of Liberdade.
Did you go to Japan House during the walking tour? There is a Japanese restaurant Aizom inside is one of the best Japanese restaurants but it only opens during day time. The irony is all the better ones are outside of Liberdade.I didn't go when I did the walking tour but I went there the next day. The funniest thing is I already in front of the restaurant inside the museum but I was craving some steak. So, I just bailed and went to the churrascaria around Paulavista. I actually don't know that restaurant is one of the best Japanese rest. In Sao Paulo. Perhaps next time then.
Speaking of next time, I am planning to go back on Dec 23 and spend like two days there but I'm just worried that all the talents are leaving the town around that time. Any thoughts gentlemen?
SankarShetty
12-01-23, 23:29
Been a long time hobby world wide, mainly Monterrey and Mexico City. December 2022 went to Rio liked what I saw but picked wrong dates not realizing places were closed on weekends, kind of shot myself in foot. Had been itching for a return trip to Rio. Or an equivalent. September 2023: prayers answered. Airline flash sale Austin TX Sao Paulo $335 flight. Years of backdooring around the globe out of Mexico, Houston, Dallas, so this time just jet out direct from Austin was a moral victory within itself..What a superb report. Take a bow. Thanks for the detailed experience and insights.
Bang Koker
12-02-23, 02:20
Wow, I've gone through some posts on the last few pages and I see the cost of having some fun in Scandallo is really getting out of line. R1000 for a CBJ? R300 for the room? So it went 230- 270- 300 merely in 7 months? Like come on, I suspect you can have a night in a 3-star hotel for that price. Luckily during my first and only visit in that boate I was able to score a good looking morena with great (not big) ass and even better fake tits for R500 (she easily accepted it after saying she usually asks R1000, I don't think that was because I'm in late twenties and tall, my guess is rather that she could either accept it or else she would have a small chance of getting another client within the next hour as IIRC there were not many men in there at that time). I got to tell you that the BBBJ performed by her wasn't too good but she rode it very well and that's a little bit more important for me I think. So the total damage for restaurant + girl + room was 1100 BRL that night and for me personally is somewhere on the edge of being acceptable to pay for one evening of fun. I guess unless prices somehow decrease it'll only make sense for me to return there when I'm a millionaire, at least denominated in BRL.
Also I wonder. In the northeast it's very doable to score a pro from a club or a bar without paying her if you two get along well. Didn't happen to me but a friend who's living there has done it many times. Has any of you ever managed. Or know somebody who has. To do the same in SP with a boate / clinica girl? I would guess that most of them are from other parts of the country and are 100% focused on the money while for example in Fortaleza they'd mix their professional life with private life and thus be more willing to have some pure fun without materialistic intentions.
There will be some left, but you will not get the full experience.
I didn't go when I did the walking tour but I went there the next day. The funniest thing is I already in front of the restaurant inside the museum but I was craving some steak. So, I just bailed and went to the churrascaria around Paulavista. I actually don't know that restaurant is one of the best Japanese rest. In Sao Paulo. Perhaps next time then.
Speaking of next time, I am planning to go back on Dec 23 and spend like two days there but I'm just worried that all the talents are leaving the town around that time. Any thoughts gentlemen?
Yeah, it is getting very ridiculous. It was already ridiculous last year and now it is a lot worse. The worst ones are the ones who are asking that high of an amount anyways so its a loose-loose situation.
Wow, I've gone through some posts on the last few pages and I see the cost of having some fun in Scandallo is really getting out of line. R1000 for a CBJ? R300 for the room? So it went 230- 270- 300 merely in 7 months? Like come on, I suspect you can have a night in a 3-star hotel for that price. Luckily during my first and only visit in that boate I was able to score a good looking morena with great (not big) ass and even better fake tits for R500 (she easily accepted it after saying she usually asks R1000, I don't think that was because I'm in late twenties and tall, my guess is rather that she could either accept it or else she would have a small chance of getting another client within the next hour as IIRC there were not many men in there at that time). I got to tell you that the BBBJ performed by her wasn't too good but she rode it very well and that's a little bit more important for me I think. So the total damage for restaurant + girl + room was 1100 BRL that night and for me personally is somewhere on the edge of being acceptable to pay for one evening of fun. I guess unless prices somehow decrease it'll only make sense for me to return there when I'm a millionaire, at least denominated in BRL.
Also I wonder. In the northeast it's very doable to score a pro from a club or a bar without paying her if you two get along well. Didn't happen to me but a friend who's living there has done it many times. Has any of you ever managed. Or know somebody who has. To do the same in SP with a boate / clinica girl? I would guess that most of them are from other parts of the country and are 100% focused on the money while for example in Fortaleza they'd mix their professional life with private life and thus be more willing to have some pure fun without materialistic intentions.
After a nice meeting with a friend I met previously, I decided there was time to check the clinics. I took an Uber to an address next to tangera and walked in. It was wall to wall men waiting for girls. The girls were not walking around so I assume most of them had scheduled via whatsapp. Decided to walk to a couple others and the last one was Zeus. It was not as crowded and there were 6 girls on the roster. The quality of the girls has improved since they opened last year. Or was it two years ago. Time flys. I have known the manager since 2018 and we had a nice visit though she was busy arranging the sessions. It is much less expensive as another fellow stated below and now that the quality has improved it may be worth a try for some of you.
As I walked by Kalina there was a pretty redhead walking into the club. I did not enter but from the outside it did not appear to be as packed as Tangera.
Today I will be meeting again with someone I met Last Christmas so will be tied up through the night.
I hope the next one is the best for all of us!
Jim.
SankarShetty
12-02-23, 14:39
I am wondering if the new "visa necessary" from January 10th will have a impact on tourism and pricing. I guess the question is. Would influx of foreigners decrease due to the hassle of getting a Visa. And would this have any impact on pricing in clinicals / boates etc?
Yeah, it is getting very ridiculous. It was already ridiculous last year and now it is a lot worse. The worst ones are the ones who are asking that high of an amount anyways so its a loose-loose situation.
I am wondering if the new "visa necessary" from January 10th will have a impact on tourism and pricing. I guess the question is. Would influx of foreigners decrease due to the hassle of getting a Visa. And would this have any impact on pricing in clinicals / boates etc?Only lazy people with the lowest level of commitment would be turned away by the E-visa requirement coming into play. It's a low-cost, low-level nuisance kind of thing that won't turn away anybody intent on going to Brazil. You got to do what you got to do if you want to be who and where you want to be. I think the impact on tourism will be virtually nil.
... It was wall to wall men waiting for girls. ....Maybe because it was pay day and Friday.
Yeah, it is getting very ridiculous. It was already ridiculous last year and now it is a lot worse. ...I think this forum also contributes it because it helps set the base and the base has increased as the price was going up. Has anyone ever tried to offer 400 in Scandallo? It's unlikely because the base has always been set higher. That is one of the problems.
SallySally
12-02-23, 16:07
Anybody have a link to a list of clinicas or other areas of interest? The map is not publicly accessible.
I think this forum also contributes it because it helps set the base and the base has increased as the price was going up. Has anyone ever tried to offer 400 in Scandallo? It's unlikely because the base has always been set higher. That is one of the problems.Several years ago pre-COVID when the prime base rate at Scandallo was 600 reals (I consider the prime to be 1,000 now), a girl offered to go with me for 400. I turned her down because she really wasn't for me in Scandallo (very plain compared to the hotties present and she had to know it thus her below market offer). She then offered to be my partner at a swing club (said she knew of some in Moema), but again I declined. But, that was the only time somebody was willing to go to the room at Scandallo for as low as 400, and she was the one who approached me with that price right off the bat. Would have been a bargain to bang a hottie, which she was not. No deal! Willing to pay more to get exactly what I want.
DreamCarnarvon
12-02-23, 16:43
I guess the question is. Would influx of foreigners decrease due to the hassle of getting a Visa. And would this have any impact on pricing in clinicals / boates etc?99% of the clinical clients (ok, I may be exaggerating a bit LOL) are local Brazilians. We have no impact on the pricing whatsoever. Which is a good thing! Don't what SP to become the next Medellin Colombia. Nothing good follows gringos.
R300 for the room? So it went 230- 270- 300 merely in 7 months?Just for clarity sake I was rounding because I didn't remember the actual number, but R270 sounds correct.
351.50 fee every 2 years for this visa? damn! I miss Bolsonaro
Several years ago pre-COVID when the prime base rate at Scandallo was 600 reals (I consider the prime to be 1,000 now), a girl offered to go with me for 400. I turned her down because she really wasn't for me in Scandallo (very plain compared to the hotties present and she had to know it thus her below market offer). She then offered to be my partner at a swing club (said she knew of some in Moema), but again I declined. But, that was the only time somebody was willing to go to the room at Scandallo for as low as 400, and she was the one who approached me with that price right off the bat. Would have been a bargain to bang a hottie, which she was not. No deal! Willing to pay more to get exactly what I want.
Several years ago pre-COVID when the prime base rate at Scandallo was 600 reals (I consider the prime to be 1,000 now), a girl offered to go with me for 400. I turned her down because she really wasn't for me in Scandallo (very plain compared to the hotties present and she had to know it thus her below market offer). She then offered to be my partner at a swing club (said she knew of some in Moema), but again I declined. But, that was the only time somebody was willing to go to the room at Scandallo for as low as 400, and she was the one who approached me with that price right off the bat. Would have been a bargain to bang a hottie, which she was not. No deal! Willing to pay more to get exactly what I want.That is not my point. It's about your offer which is being influenced by this thread and contributing to the price increase, not the offer from the girl.
That is not my point. It's about your offer, not the offer from the girl.My point was just to relate a story where that specific amount of money was involved regardless of who's offer it was. I remember it because it was the lowest price at which I ever could have taken a girl at Scandallo.
351.50 fee for this visa? damn! I miss BolsonaroI don't know where you got that figure from. Here's some intel I found:
https://www.ivisa.com/brazil/blog/brazil-visa-requirements-for-us-citizens
It will just have the same effect like how Scandallo increased their entry fee. They had this visa before the pandemic, so it didn't really change much. They are just going back to it after removing it during the pandemic.
I am wondering if the new "visa necessary" from January 10th will have a impact on tourism and pricing. I guess the question is. Would influx of foreigners decrease due to the hassle of getting a Visa. And would this have any impact on pricing in clinicals / boates etc?
SankarShetty
12-03-23, 15:45
Amen. I agree on the gringo comment brother!! Have seen Medellin become Costa Rica before my eyes these past few years. I am assuming only scandallo and similar venues may have some price impact not the regular clinicas then.
99% of the clinical clients (ok, I may be exaggerating a bit LOL) are local Brazilians. We have no impact on the pricing whatsoever. Which is a good thing! Don't what SP to become the next Medellin Colombia. Nothing good follows gringos.
SankarShetty
12-03-23, 15:51
Medellin is awash with weekend warriors who are beyond lazy. They need everything handed to them on a platter. And Colombia does it. I suspect that there will be some impact on on tourism numbers if Colombia takes away 90 day free entry and goes for a visa application.
Only lazy people with the lowest level of commitment would be turned away by the E-visa requirement coming into play. It's a low-cost, low-level nuisance kind of thing that won't turn away anybody intent on going to Brazil. You got to do what you got to do if you want to be who and where you want to be. I think the impact on tourism will be virtually nil.
ThisOneFs1
12-04-23, 05:01
Visited SP for the second time. In the first visit I went only to the clinicas but had a wonderful time though.
This time landed on Friday afternoon and the Uber took 2 hrs to reach my hotel.
Stored the luggage and walked to Yankin. The guy in the reception spoke very good English and was really nice. There were around 10 girls and after waiting few more arrived and took a girl based on his recommendation. Nice time spent with 2 shots incl 1 CIM. Very nice girl and was pleasing all the time when I took time for second shot. Forgot the name. 190 reals.
Came back and checked-in. Then went to Tangara. Many guys waiting in reception and in the bar. Around 10 girls and kind of confused with presentation as girls didn't know who are new vs already there. Anyways the other English speaking lady took me to the room and showed everyone. Didn't like anyone and waited. In few minutes a new girl Soi came and immediately took her. Wonderful time with BBBJ, GFE and all positions. 190 reals.
Next day took a tour in the morning and went to Miruna. Not a good line up.
So walked to Abbobora. May be 15 girls and most of them were good. King of confused with names and the receptionist isn't that helpful. And also she looks upset when we don't take anyone. Since I was last to arrive 2 girls I wanted was taken by early arrivers. Asked receptionist if Mikayla was natural or silicone. She told natural but actually silicone when she came to room. Anyways went with her as she spoke English and was nice otherwise. Turned out to be one of the good GFE sessions. 2 disappointments were CBJ and silicone. But she was really cooperative and enjoyed. Talked for 20 minutes about lots of subjects after deed. 330 reals.
Walked to Enjoy and Prime but didn't liked the line up. So went to Tangara again. Same crowd like Friday. Since I was tired went half minded with Bae and it was a normal session with BBBJ but not GFE. She didn't shower even telling her multiple times. She told she didn't take any customers after bath. That kind of ruined my mood. So finished in 30 minutes. 140 reals.
Sunday took a tour in the morning and went to Miruna. Took a BBW and it was just a normal session with BBBJ. Weird thing was she used a mint before BBBJ and it kind of make my dick cold and I didn't liked it. 270 reals.
Checked in to Renaissance hotel and took rest.
Monday work in the day time and hit Casarao at 12:30. 15 girls and around 20 guys inside. Should have waited but took a girl in hurry. Forgot her name. Asked 300 and immediately accepted 250 for 30 minutes. Decent session and nothing to write about. Only CBJ. Entry 40, room 50.
Tuesday went at 11:30 more girls than yesterday. Found Larizza to be really attractive as she had curly hair. Asked 300 but immediately accepted 250. Great session with only CBJ. It was a true GFE session and I can my best mongering session ever. She spoke some English and took some rest as we both got involved and exhausted. She seems to have enjoyed the session and was inquiring about the Durex prolong condom I took from USA. Came out and introduced few more girls.
Next day went around 11:30 to Casarao and may be 35 girls. More crowded with guys. Saw some very attractive girls but I got a thing for a ebony spinner and went with her. Asked 350 and agreed for 250 after few minutes of nego. CBJ only and was almost dead in bed. But the hole was very tight as she was only 20 and I enjoyed it. But I feel that should have selected some else as there were more doable girls that day.
No other mongering as time did not permit.
Few notes:
1. Renaissance hotel ATM minimum withdrawal is 500 r and other options are 700,900, 1 k etc. So walk to Av Paulista to get exact amounts.
2. On Renaissance reception while waiting for Uber at 11 pm a beautiful lady in good party dress was making clear eye contact and smiled on seeing me. She directly asked in English if she can come to the room. She asked 800 but I guess could have accepted 500 or 600. But since some of colleagues were in the bar drinking I didn't want to take risk. The hotel staff doesn't care about the guests as it's busy even at midnight. As long as you have the card to enter elevator you should be fine.
3. Casarao rooms are not like even Tangara. So small with only a dim light.
My point was just to relate a story where that specific amount of money was involved regardless of who's offer it was. I remember it because it was the lowest price at which I ever could have taken a girl at Scandallo.Understood, what motivated my post was someone offered 400 and was accepted last year for a Scandallo regular who is attractive and usually ask for 800 or more. He got 2 pops, CIM, and video to prove it. If I were to make offer to the girl at that time, I would never think about offering anything below 500, that is partly due to reading this forum.
Similar to you, I go to Scandallo to find girls that I can't easily find elsewhere and am willing to pay for it.
Understood, what motivated my post was someone offered 400 and was accepted last year for a Scandallo regular who is attractive and usually ask for 800 or more. He got 2 pops, CIM, and video to prove it. If I were to make offer to the girl at that time, I would never think about offering anything below 500, that is partly due to reading this forum. Similar to you, I go to Scandallo to find girls that I can't easily find elsewhere and am willing to pay for it.Really? Where is that? I would like to see it.
SankarShetty
12-04-23, 17:44
Seems like you figured out more info since your first trip and getting better experiences. You don't have your PM enabled. Would love to chat.
Visited SP for the second time. In the first visit I went only to the clinicas but had a wonderful time though.
This time landed on Friday afternoon and the Uber took 2 hrs to reach my hotel.
Stored the luggage and walked to Yankin. The guy in the reception spoke very good English and was really nice. There were around 10 girls and after waiting few more arrived and took a girl based on his recommendation. Nice time spent with 2 shots incl 1 CIM. Very nice girl and was pleasing all the time when I took time for second shot. Forgot the name. 190 reals.
Came back and checked-in. Then went to Tangara. Many guys waiting in reception and in the bar. Around 10 girls and kind of confused with presentation as girls didn't know who are new vs already there. Anyways the other English speaking lady took me to the room and showed everyone. Didn't like anyone and waited. In few minutes a new girl Soi came and immediately took her. Wonderful time with BBBJ, GFE and all positions. 190 reals.
Axel Heyst
12-04-23, 20:52
Visited SP for the second time. In the first visit I went only to the clinicas but had a wonderful time though.
This time landed on Friday afternoon and the Uber took 2 hrs to reach my hotel.
Stored the luggage and walked to Yankin. The guy in the reception spoke very good English and was really nice. There were around 10 girls and after waiting few more arrived and took a girl based on his recommendation. Nice time spent with 2 shots incl 1 CIM. Very nice girl and was pleasing all the time when I took time for second shot. Forgot the name. 190 reals.
Came back and checked-in. Then went to Tangara. Many guys waiting in reception and in the bar. Around 10 girls and kind of confused with presentation as girls didn't know who are new vs already there. Anyways the other English speaking lady took me to the room and showed everyone. Didn't like anyone and waited. In few minutes a new girl Soi came and immediately took her. Wonderful time with BBBJ, GFE and all positions. 190 reals.
Next day took a tour in the morning and went to Miruna. Not a good line up.
So walked to Abbobora. May be 15 girls and most of them were good. King of confused with names and the receptionist isn't that helpful. And also she looks upset when we don't take anyone. Since I was last to arrive 2 girls I wanted was taken by early arrivers. Asked receptionist if Mikayla was natural or silicone. She told natural but actually silicone when she came to room. Anyways went with her as she spoke English and was nice otherwise. Turned out to be one of the good GFE sessions. 2 disappointments were CBJ and silicone. But she was really cooperative and enjoyed. Talked for 20 minutes about lots of subjects after deed. 330 reals.
Walked to Enjoy and Prime but didn't liked the line up. So went to Tangara again. Same crowd like Friday. Since I was tired went half minded with Bae and it was a normal session with BBBJ but not GFE. She didn't shower even telling her multiple times. She told she didn't take any customers after bath. That kind of ruined my mood. So finished in 30 minutes. 140 reals.
Sunday took a tour in the morning and went to Miruna. Took a BBW and it was just a normal session with BBBJ. Weird thing was she used a mint before BBBJ and it kind of make my dick cold and I didn't liked it. 270 reals.
Checked in to Renaissance hotel and took rest.
Monday work in the day time and hit Casarao at 12:30. 15 girls and around 20 guys inside. Should have waited but took a girl in hurry. Forgot her name. Asked 300 and immediately accepted 250 for 30 minutes. Decent session and nothing to write about. Only CBJ. Entry 40, room 50.
Tuesday went at 11:30 more girls than yesterday. Found Larizza to be really attractive as she had curly hair. Asked 300 but immediately accepted 250. Great session with only CBJ. It was a true GFE session and I can my best mongering session ever. She spoke some English and took some rest as we both got involved and exhausted. She seems to have enjoyed the session and was inquiring about the Durex prolong condom I took from USA. Came out and introduced few more girls.
Next day went around 11:30 to Casarao and may be 35 girls. More crowded with guys. Saw some very attractive girls but I got a thing for a ebony spinner and went with her. Asked 350 and agreed for 250 after few minutes of nego. CBJ only and was almost dead in bed. But the hole was very tight as she was only 20 and I enjoyed it. But I feel that should have selected some else as there were more doable girls that day.
No other mongering as time did not permit.
Few notes:
1. Renaissance hotel ATM minimum withdrawal is 500 r and other options are 700,900, 1 k etc. So walk to Av Paulista to get exact amounts.
2. On Renaissance reception while waiting for Uber at 11 pm a beautiful lady in good party dress was making clear eye contact and smiled on seeing me. She directly asked in English if she can come to the room. She asked 800 but I guess could have accepted 500 or 600. But since some of colleagues were in the bar drinking I didn't want to take risk. The hotel staff doesn't care about the guests as it's busy even at midnight. As long as you have the card to enter elevator you should be fine.
3. Casarao rooms are not like even Tangara. So small with only a dim light.Good trip report man. It sounds like you had a pretty good time. I am surprised by your Casarao girl count. Everytime I have gone there after midnight I find the joint is packed. I wonder what has changed since June? But you are right, the rooms at the hotel next door suck. I find it is better to take your girl back to my hotel or to a love motel.
Yeah, a couple of FL's hang out at the Renaissance. Same same at the Grand Hyatt. I have never taken one of these girls upstairs, but I kind of like seeing them in the lobby. It makes the hotel seem friendlier. KKK.
I was just at Abboboro this afternoon, but when I arrived around 12:30 pm, there were only 4 girls available. I guess there is high demand from the locals after the weekend with the wife and kids. I choose Natalie, a buxom blond because she gave me convincing eye contact and a sweet smile during the lineup. After we got naked and started making out, she tried to pull out a condom. I said it was too soon and she said ok and gave a pretty decent BBBJ. Overall, the sex was good, but not outstanding as it sometimes is at Abboboro. Oh well, they can't all be memorable. Ha Ha. Natalie was my 1st new girl of the trip. I have been spending the 5 nights since I arrived with my favorite boate girls from previous trips. There is nothing like reunion sex. I love it!
OohxTasty10
12-04-23, 23:44
I'm vising Sao Paulo for a couple weeks. What are some of the best legit sites for finding girls? Also, is there some kind of translation table somewhere for what each of the listed "services" are / mean? What are reasonable prices to expect? Thanks!
Really? Where is that? I would like to see it.Sorry, it's not mine to share.
The Critic
12-05-23, 06:42
Visited SP for the second time. In the first visit I went only to the clinicas but had a wonderful time though.The second time is the charm. Looks like you had a good time. Good report thanks for sharing.
RickyRick95
12-05-23, 19:14
As previously indicated last week made my first visit to SP after being a very hyped up place for mongering, let me begin by saying just one thing, usually after having big expectations of something reality can be often disappoiting. Let me tell you, in this case the expectations were met and surpassed. If you guys bear with me I will tell my experience in a long and detail manner as all was very striking to me as all were my firsts in SP, and also through writing I relive those great memories.
1 rst day Thursday 30th – Web escort-famous content creator / porn actress.
After arriving very early on the morning, took an uber directly to a mall very close to my Airbnb in Vila Olimpia, my telephone company fortunately gives me international data for Brazil at no extra cost, perk of having the same telephone company in both countries. After arriving at the mall my buddy and I, change the dollars we had to BRL Reais, the rate was not great but definitely better than the airport, I guess foreigners can't get the rate that indicates Google but oh well the difference was not that much. After that we had breakfast and contacted my Airbnb host to check the possibility of an early check in. As I was in a hurry to get in the Airbnb to get freshed up because as I mentioned in my previous posts I had booked Luiza Marcato a well known escort and content creator for that same very day early in the after noon, before the check in time in my Airbnb. I did this because it was her last day in SP and the only hour she was available. Well long story short the host try to sped up the cleaning of the apartment so I could check in early but I was not fast enough and had no other choice to go to Luiza's flat as I was after a 5 hour flight, hoping she would lend me her shower. Took an uber to her flat and left my buddy at the Airbnb lobby. In appearance it was short distance but due to the horrible SP traffic and me saying this coming from a city in south America known for having one of the worst traffics, is saying something. Well after a 30 min ride I arrived, checked with Luiza if she was ready, responded that she needed a couple of minutes, so I waited in the lobby and after a few minutes she told me the apartment number, went to the receptionist and in my "Portuñol" announced my visit, the receptionist called Luiza and told me to wait for her to come down for me as the elevators only work with a key, which a first did not understand and tried to go up on the elevator, which obviously did not work and the receptionist had to tell me again to wait till she came down for me if I did not have a key, which only then I understood. I was only a few hours in SP with few hours sleep, felt a little embarrassed for my inexperience in this types of affairs so I waited in the lobby until a couple of minutes later she came down and god damned what a women she was in a tight gym outfit highlighting her amazing figure, a rock solid ass and great tits. Quickly went up with her, got in her apartment told her I only speak a little Portuguese and helpfully she indeed speak a little Spanish with a Spain accent for some reason, I assumed she may had work in Spain. But after some chitchat in which we could communicate well, after all Spanish and Portuguese are very similar, I could take a shower thank goodness. As I left the bathroom I found her totally naked in all 4's waiting for me, amazing view of that ass so I could not resist and started kissing that ass and gave a few licks to that pussy. After that the performance was as you could expect from a porn actress real hardcore, DFK, sloppy BBBJ looking at me with those stricking grayish eyes as she performed. Balls sucking and deepthroat as rough as I wanted, a dream come true after jercking off to her videos for the last couple of years. Then sex in various positions and as she was riding me in cowgirl she told me, "now in my culo", and before I could realize what she meant she stuck my cock in her asshole and started riding me even harder. Anal is not really my thing but I really enjoyed that tight ass, and that girl really loved it as well as I pound that ass as hard as I could. After a while she started sucking me off hard as I CIM. Totally ecstatic after that I took another shower, and chatted various trivial thing she was very nice and friendly told me she had been filming content the last few days and that finding pro male talent was hard, and more trivial friendly matters. After that I told her I was ready again, started with another hardcore BBBJ, after I got hard more pounding in several positions until again I CIM, unfortunately she does not swallow. After that I asked her if I could take a few pictures as a souvenir, she must have liked me somewhat because she agreed, even though when coordinating our date before she clearly stated she did not allowed videos or photos as she was a pro. But I believed that after telling her all the effort I made to be able to see her, practically getting of the plane directly to see her, it earn me some points, so she allowed me to take a few pictures of her amazing ass with me as well in the mirror and some selfies of us kissing as if were lovers. What a woman hot as hell and also very kind and lovely, Sp had welcomed me in a great way and this was only the preamble of my experiences in the next couple of days. After another shower got dressed, payed her and said goodbye with a couple more passionate kisses and she gently caressed my crotch for the last time before parting ways.
After that went back to my Airbnb to find my buddy already checked in, resting in the apartment. Went out to dinner, planning to rest for the night even though we knew Thursdays was the best day at Scandallo but we were totally exhausted, as my buddy had also sessioned with a web escort he found in Splove that had a place a couple of blocks away from our Airbnb, great session as well according to him, even though he would later regret this escapade, you will see why later.
So we decided to call it a night after a couple of beers and watching the local beautys walk past by in the mall, man you fall in love in every corner in this fucking city, and hope for the best at scandallo on Friday.
2nd day Friday 1st – The world's famous Scandallo
The next day we did some tourist stuff in the morning visited Parque Ibirapuera where we feasted our eyes not only with the natural beauty of the park, which had very central park vibes, but mainly with the local women God damn! What beautiful women, you could find every type of girl you could imagine blonds, brunnetes, mulatas, Latina type it was an impressive diversity. Some times I forgot I was in south America and not in some Cosmopolitan European city. I've been to the states many times and I have never seen so many beatyful girls in that quantity anywhere.
Well after more touristy stuff in the afternoon we got back to the Airbnb to get ready for Scandallo, we decided to go before 7 pm to not pay the R200 cover that you have to pay after 7.
We took an uber around 5:45 pm after drinking a couple of beers to get in the mood, the uber took several minutes to arrive and we where afraid we would not get to scandallo in time before 7, due to the Sp traffic. Fortunately the traffic was not so bad and after 40 min we arrived, I must confess I was a little nervous did not know exactly why maybe excitement to finally visited the much hyped scandallo or maybe at the same time fear to be disappointed due to my high expectations. In any case we arrived, got inside reception after being checked by security, the first impression already was positive the place looked very classy as the lobby of a high end hotel would look like. As I was registering a woman passed by looking amazing and in that moment all my fears of being disappointed fade away. After being registered and had being explained how the card system worked we went up in the elevator. FUCK as we walked out of the elevator, even though the ambiance was very calm as it was early, there where at least 10-15 girls in the sofas outside the restaurant area, it was very overwhelming because all of these insanely hot girls all dressed in spectacular fashions were staring at us, as we were figuring out what the hell we should do, I quickly decided, before the pressure of being stared at by a bunch of super model types of girls burn a hole in my skull, to go to the restaurant area. Passed in front of all this girls just to find an amazing quiet area where people where having drinks and dinner, an area that you would usually find in a high end restaurant in any city of the world. Still very overwhelmed we sat down with my buddy and feasted our eyes with the 30 plus girls that were there at that early part of the evening, we ordered a couple of drinks and decided to chill out a bit to digest if all of this was real or if we were just dreaming. Although there were not that many girls as later in the night would be, the girls still were hot as hell every type you could imagine. My buddy and I were like children in a candyshop drooling at every "candy" in the shelf, the next looking tastier than the last one. Previously we decided our "strategy" that we would not invite or approach at any women before 10-11 pm, where supposedly most of the women arrived. Although I had seen a couple girls, especially one that was very slim but with curves a tiny waist a great ass and really cute young face, that if I had no previously decided not to do anything before said time I would have in an instant called her for a couple of drinks, but for better or worse decided to wait for later in the night. As we were in the restaurant having a couple caipirinhas we were approached by at least 3 pairs of girls trying to accompany us, but after some chichat the classics where are you from, first time here, etc, We politely send them away, we were determined to stick to our plan. As we were enjoying our time just drinking and watching all the amazing girls pass by and slowly arriving more girls and gentlemen we thought the terrace patio area was close for being too early because from the restaurant the entrance to the patio was closed, so we did not move from the restaurant for like 2-3 hours until we realize the other areas were already open, maybe there were always open but because we did not move from the restaurant we didn't know, so we decided to finally move and check around, passed the disco area and games area to reach the patio, where it was already full with people and even more beautiful girls we did not see at the restaurant, we sat down at one of the few free spots and watched the whole show like 50 plus girls already there standing in the bar or just in the middle of the area as if they were waiters just waiting to be called by a client, if I was already overwhelmed this exploded my mind. We sat there for a few minutes until a couple of girls approached us and sat down with us, before asking if that was ok, as it was already close to 10 pm we decided to start chatting so we let them stay. They were a stunning curvy blond and a stunning slim brunet for my buddy, we talked the classic stuff and although they were very nice at least the blonde was in mi case she even invited my her vape but I was not planning to be hunted I wanted to be the hunter I wanted to choose not be chosen so even though the chat was very nice and the blonde was hot as hell I did not show a sign of even inviting her a drink much less to have a session as I play dumb and told her I did not know how the fucking system worked in scandallo, she explain that most of the girls fee was R1500 and the in the second floor was a hotel that cost R300 plus the girls fee. I faked surprised at the fee and told her I was not sure if I was going to session that night, so after a couple of minutes she took off to the "bathroom". Obviously she did not came back and my buddy's brunnet also took off, in my buddy's case he was interested in the girl but some actituted of the girl put him off, according to him this girl seemed very desperate to go have a session also she seemed very intense in the way that she asked my buddy in what he worked on, if he could give her a job and started complaining that scandallo was abusive in their treatment of the girls because they charge them 300 R for the entrance same as men but not consumable just a fee to enter and work there, so that attitude put off my buddy, complaining, desperate to session was a downer for him, apparently this girl's strategy was to make men feel sorry for her, but in this kind of place you come to have fun not to hear a girl complaining about her life. So she left after realizing with my buddy it was going nowhere.
Well after the first chats with the girls I was decided I was going to choose this time not be chosen but before I could do anything a couple of new girls approached us a blond for my buddy and a brunnet with tan skin, mulata type but with a big bunda and thick legs for me, because she sat down so fast and did not see where she came from and could not check her body out completely. But oh well I let her stay to chat a little and surprisingly she was very charming she knew a lot of things from my country as she had lived there 3 months for a university exchange or something spoke Spanish and we really hit it off, she was all flirty so she convinced me to invite her a drink, we kept chatting and before a realize my buddy was leaving with her blond quite fast. Later he told me she was very flirty and reminded him of a American porstar he really liked and most of all because she agreed to a fee of R600. For me she was a tier 2 girl, because she was on the older side 34 yo, but my buddy likes bargains and from 1500 to 600 looked like the offer of the year to him so he took her upstairs for a session. After my buddy left I stay with my girl for 30 min or so thinking she is no exactly my type but as we are really hitting it off at least this will be a great fuck, we chatted a little more kissed a little and then negotiated the rate she told me the standard rate the apparently all the girls have stablished as default is R1500, I told her that it was my first time I did not know those were the prices and only had R600, she told me playfully that it was too low but as she liked my she could accept 800. So I agreed and off we went, as I was following her to the elevator to pick her stuff up and go to the rooms, I could finally checked her body out and she was too thick for my usual tastes but oh well resigned to at least have a great performance with her I continued. Once in the rooms she took her close off and as mentioned it was not I was hoping for, of course she still was hot but not what I wanted in my personal taste, other thing was that in a rookie mistake a did not clarify the terms of the Service BBBJ, number of shots, etc. So she wanted to start sucking me off covered and surprised I thought, damn it I screw up did not clarify the Service terms beforehand, so in that moment I asked her if I could have BBBJ she said no she did no do that, but as I begged her just the tip at least, I guess she thought well fuck it and started Licking the tip but I guess she could not control herself and started going full BBBJ hardcore sloppy and forgot about the rubber. After that Little impasse was sorted out the session continued great with several positions, DFK, hard pounding in doggy, hard ass spanking, choking her throat real hardcore until a I cum in the rubber. In between shots she took out a dildo from her bag and said to me now is my turn to cum, she started masturbating while she told me to suck her tits, I must admit that was really hot a proof, I thought, that this Brazilian girls really enjoy this shit is not a mere job for them. After a while she cummed and I was hard again and continue pounding her hard until she came a couple more times, finally I also cum in the rubber again after pounding her ass so hard that I left it red, she really liked it rough. After that I asked her if I could take a couple pics she said ok but not of her face, she cover her face with the pillow and took a couple of pictures of that big bunda.
As we finished I was thinking that I wanted another girl even though this session was pretty great I wanted a girl more of my taste slim white with European features model type but with that Brazilian bunda, that mix of European features and Brazilian curves for me at least is the best, is the type of girl it would be impossible to find in my country, big ass thick Latina type you can find easily that is why I wanted the type of girl I could not fuck in my country. So we finished and she told me that now I could go rest drink a couple more caipirinhas and if I wanted fuck another girl, she was very nice and funny. Most if not all Brazilian girls are like this very friendly and outgoing like they are genuinely your friend.
I went down met my buddy and immediately did rigurous math in my mind to figure out if I had enough cash for a second session. I had planned to pay for everything in cash but after doing the math in my head I realice that I only had BR800 tops for the session and the room would had to be paid with CC.
My buddy was done for the night but not for lack of energy for another session but for lack of cash regretting the session he had with the girl he found on the web yesterday considering all the options for a second session he had there lesson learned for next time, so I told him that I wanted another session with a girl more of type he didn't have a problem of hanging out until I had my second session just enjoying the view of the many girls that were there a 12 am around 100 or so. So as I was again a little overwhelmed again for the vast options I had at my disposal did not know who to choose now, I thought I had to choose carefully now, so as I was roaming the room I see the Slim girl I with the tiny waist I saw at the beginning of the night now in a different set of clothes, I noticed girls change their outfits as the night progresses. But as I saw her I also notice she is with a dude they were very close and she was hanging from the guys neck as he was very tall, I though well I lost my chance in the end waiting for something better does not always pays, if you see someone you like a lot just call her immediately next time, thought to myself. My buddy told me that if I liked her so much wait for her to return after she sessions with the guy but it thought nehh, with some many hot girls around why should I wait for one girl. But as I was saying this a notice the girl leaves the dude and she returns to the disco area and I saw her standing there with the rest of the girls, fuck it I go as fast as I can and approach her told her if I could invite her a drink she gladly said yes, we went to the restaurant and I asked her what she like to drink, she did not speak Spanish but she told me she spoke english so we started speaking English, I noticed then she was a Little tipsy and she indeed told me she had much to drink and only ordered a coconut water and I order a beer, but seeing her up close I even liked her more she was really beautiful. But as the waiter brings our beverages she tells me to excuse her for a bit she has to go to the bathroom, she leaves and I was very happy imagining what she would like later sucking my cock with that beautiful inocent looking face with striking green eyes. But quickly I am brought down to reality as almost 10 min passes and the girl does not return, I am starting to worry, my buddy then texts my asking me if I was still with the same girl, I told her I am waiting for her that she went to the bathroom but she was taking too long, he tells me that he just saw her with the same dude we saw her before I approached her, they went for the rooms. I could not believe what a ***** she was by leaving me after ordering her fucking drink. My buddy then comes where I was, and tells me that he saw the girl apparently indeed returning from the bathroom but the guy approached her again and immediately took her to the elevator for the rooms. My guess is he was bargaining her fee before, they did not reach an agreement and she left and in that moment is when I approach her, the dude must have seen me with her thinking he lost his chance and as he saw her alone coming from the bathroom took her immediately to the rooms for the fee she asked him. Still she was a ***** for leaving me hanging after ordering a fucking drink, least she could do was to tell me she was leaving and she was sorry but she was way to drunk to care or embarrassed for making me order something and then leave. Well shit happens, left with my buddy the restaurant area and went back to the patio where I sat down for a bit and as the night was not getting any younger I quickly scouted the area and the first Slim girl with European features I saw I quickly approached her. Ask her if I could invite her a drink she gladly said yes, she was with a friend and as she saw me with my buddy she told me if my buddy did not want company I told her he already sessioned he was resting, she said ok and ordered a gin and tonic and off we went for a sofa to have a chat. She was the kind of girl I was looking for Slim but with curves great fake tits and fit, she did speak really Good Spanish that she learned from just talking to clients, she never studied it, she was well versed in many subjects and was fun and friendly, she told me that Fridays and Saturdays where slow days for me that day was awesome with lots of girls she insisted that was nothing that Thursdays and Wednesdays are in another level with double the girls, damn I could not imagine even more girls, she also told me some gossip that many famous people from Brasil and the world visited scandallo, from the local famous she could not speak but from the international one she told me that last one to visit was a very famous American pop Singer top of the charts in recent years that was just recently touring south America this past months. Even I went to his concert when he visited my country, big fan. She told me he came to hang out a bit in a private area on the second floor of the disco and after a while pick 4 girls and took them to his suite in some hotel in the city. She thought that as he was American he would be into big bunda thick latina type and thought he would not choose her, but was all the opposite he liked Slim White girls and giggling told me he choose her and 3 other girls, I guess now me and of my favorite artists are as we call in my country "hermanos de leche" or eskimo brothers, when 2 guys have fucked the same girl hahaha.
After a pleasant time chatting an hour or so when she finished her drink, started the negotiating part and the same as all the other girls standard R1500, told her that was my first time here did not know the prices I could offer her R700, she told me impossible her bare minimum is R1000, I insisted was too much for me and she left it a 900, for R100 was not letting her go so of we went to the rooms. In the elevators we found another couple they started speaking Portuguese and my girl told them it was my first time there the other girl laugh said that it was the first time of her guy too even though he was a local, he asked me where I was from, all laughing, and my girl said she did not believe it was the guy's first time he had a face of being a seasoned monger, all was in Portuguese but I understood, we all laugh and each couple went to their room. What a place scandallo a utopia for men. Well once in the room we took a shower saw my girl's body fully naked as we showered what a beautiful woman she used minimum make up and looked natural but still was really amazing and cute GND type of style. Just as we were finishing the shower I once again realized that I did not clarify the terms of the Service number of shots, BBBJ or DFK. But all my fears went I away as we lay on the bed I could not resist at that beautiful Pink pussy and started a DATY, watching her cute face enjoying it was one of my top experiences after a while she told me to go 69 so she can suck my cock. Indeed we went on 69, I was eating that pussy as my life depended on it and she just began the BBBJ included balls and all also putting her tongue near my asshole that girl really liked to suck dick thankfully she did not try to pull a CBJ like the last girl, also as I was eating her out put my finger in her ass making her shake a tremble in pleasure. After that I put on the rubber and begin the fuck fest, in every position with DFK for a longtime as this was my second session of the night I was not that sensitive, after 30 min of continued pounding I asked her if she wanted to rest because I was not Cumming, she told me she wanted to go on. But I was exhausted of so much pounding so I told her I need 5 to rest. We lay down and cuddle full GFE with soft kissing. After a few minutes I was ready again we begin with another BBBJ and then sex in various positions having the view of that girl riding was like I was on a dream. She rode me so hard I could feel she was Cumming I asked her if she indeed was and she ask me how did I know. I told her I felt her pussy twitching on my cock and the for intensity of how she was riding me. Finally I had her in doggy fucking her as hard as I could, that white ass was left all red of all the pounding, when I finally cummed in the rubber. After that we lay on bed glaring at each other's eyes as she was stroking my hair, telling me she really liked me that I was cheiroso and muito gatinho, this girls have a way of making you feel really desired and that are really into you I guess what you call IoP, for a moment a did really believe that I even blushed at her compliments. For a moment we were falling asleep but it was getting late and I had left my buddy waiting so I quickly got up and went to the shower with her. We got clean and she offered me mouthwash she had in her bag. I asked her a photo as a souvenir she agreed but with clothes on but I was so ecstatic and happy that I completely forgot to ask her by the end of the session regrettably. One interesting thing she told me, I don't know if it is true for all the girls is that for older men they charge more, this came up because she told me I have baby face I am in my late 20's but that is a thing many girls have told me, that is why I grew up a beard to look older, I told her this but she replied saying that looking younger was a good thing even more in a place like this because, that's when she told me, that they charge more to older men, she told me for example she charged a Chilean man in his 50's R2500, and so I should be happy to look Young. I guess it's true that some girls charge you more if they really don't like you, in this girl's case she charges more to older men others may charge more to overweight men or to a guy that for some reason they don't like. She also told me that she is very respectful when a guy a approaches her she stays with him until he wants, she told me she saw a regular of hers but as I approach her before he did, she stayed with me even though her regular gave her some disappointed looks when he saw us leaving for the rooms. A very respectful approach unlike the other girl the left me hanging to go with another guy.
Even though I forgot to ask for the picture at least in the end I asked her number to contact her through whatsapp, for a next time I am in SP. She gladly gave it to me.
After that we parted ways with a Kiss, I looked for my buddy and left after paying the consumable card fee with CC because I had burned through all my cash with the 2 sessions.
Finally left around 3:30 am happy after finally getting to experience what many call paridise on earth, did not disappoint one of those rare ocations where all the hype and big expectations are met and surpassed. And it was a slow day only god knows how it would be in a Thursday. Sadly I had destined the rest of my mongering money to a threesome with 2 hot girls from the web that I've been gollowing on twitter for some time for the next day, I left wanting to come back day after as well but I would not be possible. As this post is already incredible long then threesome will be post later.
Thank for all the information it was really helpful. Attached a couple of pics of scandallo.
DreamCarnarvon
12-06-23, 01:33
Just want to give a quick report on 4 clinicas in and around the Metro station Vila Sonia.
1) Spa Azumi (Rua Coronel Otaviano the Silveira, 235). This one is right next to the metro station. The way this place and the place below works is a little different than the other clinicas. Most clients schedule their appointments ahead of time via whatsapp. And they are super busy. I went there twice, walk in, and both times all of their GPS were busy. I did have a session with a girl here, 19 years old Dani after waiting for her for a hour. White complexion, 7/10 face, 5'5"-5'6", super skinny, small natural titties and a soft as butter little butt. Pretty friendly girl who likes to dictate the action in bed. Not so much GFE with her, not much kissing. But both the BBBJ and sex were great. She can take a pounding and be just laying there seemingly going into a trance with a slutty face. She allows DATY and FIV. 150 reais for an hour and it was worth it the long trek for me. They have 7-10 girls. The best way is to schedule via whatsapp or you can do a walk in but be prepared to wait.
2) CLínica Esha (Rua Diogo do Couto, 146). To reach this one, take bus 8019-31 from Metro Vila Sonia and get off at Praça Isai Leiner, 128. Then a 10 minute walk. Went there twice, walk in, and was only able to see one girl in person, a mulata. They have about 5-7 girls. 100 for 30 minutes and 150 for 1 hour.
3) CLínica My Lady 2 (Rua Ministro Adauto Lúcio Cardoso, 225). Same as above, take Bus 8019-31 from Metro Vila Sonia and get off at Pça Isai Leiner, 128, then walk. This place has like 5 or 6 girls, all good quality. I had two sessions here. First was with 19 years old Mirela. Morena, 7. 5/10 a cutie pie, 5'4"-5'5", super skinny, small natural titties and a firm little butt. She told me she doesn't kiss in the interview but we had good chemistry in the bed and she became a willing kisser. Both BBBJ and sex were excellent. Squeezing and slapping that little firm butt of hers in cowgirl was absolutely amazing. She allows DATY and FIV. She get BUSY with clients. The second girl I had was Emili. Another morena, a bit older than Mirela. 7/10 face, body in shape, with medium natural titties and a super curvy booty. Very friendly and petty good GFE. The way to go with her is doggy to appreciate that beautiful ass of hers. 150 reais for an hour here as well.
4) CLínica My Lady (Av Escola Politécnica, 4561). This one is far but bus 775 V-10 on Av Corifeu de Azevedo Marques (not far from My Lady 2) dropped me close to it. Then its a little bit of walking after crossing the canal. I was there on an early afternoon. 3 girls, one was in service, the second had a client scheduled, the third was available. Got presented by the second and third girl. Both were in mid t20's of typical brazilian body type, tall and curvy 7/10 face. Took bus 775 N-10 back.
Steve 9696
12-06-23, 03:02
On Google maps it says Casarao is open regular hours on Sundays. True? I found that a bit surprising but would be great. Anyone been? Lame?
The Critic
12-06-23, 10:20
As previously indicated last week made my first visit to SP after being a very hyped up place for mongering, let me begin by saying just one thing, usually after having big expectations of something reality can be often disappoiting. Let me tell you, in this case the expectations were met and surpassed. Good report. Looks like you and your buddy had a good time. In future posting please break up your big paragraphs to make reading easier.
The Critic
12-06-23, 10:23
Just want to give a quick report on 4 clinicas in and around the Metro station Vila Sonia.
1) Spa Azumi (Rua Coronel Otaviano the Silveira, 235). This one is right next to the metro station. The way this place and the place below works is a little different than the other clinicas. Most clients schedule their appointments ahead of time via whatsapp. And they are super busy. I went there twice, walk in, and both times all of their GPS were busy. I did have a session with a girl here, 19 years old Dani after waiting for her for a hour. White complexion, 7/10 face, 5'5"-5'6", super skinny, small natural titties and a soft as butter little butt. Pretty friendly girl who likes to dictate the action in bed. Not so much GFE with her, not much kissing. But both the BBBJ and sex were great. She can take a pounding and be just laying there seemingly going into a trance with a slutty face. She allows DATY and FIV. 150 reais for an hour and it was worth it the long trek for me. They have 7-10 girls. The best way is to schedule via whatsapp or you can do a walk in but be prepared to wait.
2) CLnica Esha (Rua Diogo do Couto, 146). To reach this one, take bus 8019-31 from Metro Vila Sonia and get off at Praa Isai Leiner, 128. Then a 10 minute walk. Went there twice, walk in, and was only able to see one girl in person, a mulata. They have about 5-7 girls. 100 for 30 minutes and 150 for 1 hour.
3) CLnica My Lady 2 (Rua Ministro Adauto Lcio Cardoso, 225). Same as above, take Bus 8019-31 from Metro Vila Sonia and get off at Pa Isai Leiner, 128, then walk. This place has like 5 or 6 girls, all good quality. I had two sessions here. First was with 19 years old Mirela. Morena, 7. 5/10 a cutie pie, 5'4"-5'5", super skinny, small natural titties and a firm little butt. She told me she doesn't kiss in the interview but we had good chemistry in the bed and she became a willing kisser. Both BBBJ and sex were excellent. Squeezing and slapping that little firm butt of hers in cowgirl was absolutely amazing. She allows DATY and FIV. She get BUSY with clients. The second girl I had was Emili. Another morena, a bit older than Mirela. 7/10 face, body in shape, with medium natural titties and a super curvy booty. Very friendly and petty good GFE. The way to go with her is doggy to appreciate that beautiful ass of hers. 150 reais for an hour here as well.
4) CLnica My Lady (Av Escola Politcnica, 4561). This one is far but bus 775 V-10 on Av Corifeu de Azevedo Marques (not far from My Lady 2) dropped me close to it. Then its a little bit of walking after crossing the canal. I was there on an early afternoon. 3 girls, one was in service, the second had a client scheduled, the third was available. Got presented by the second and third girl. Both were in mid t20's of typical brazilian body type, tall and curvy 7/10 face. Took bus 775 N-10 back.Thanks for posting the Clinicas you checked out. I will add these to my List.
Just want to give a quick report on 4 clinicas in and around the Metro station Vila Sonia........Good to read about little reported in ISG clinicas. Great to venture off the beaten track.
Steve 9696
12-06-23, 15:00
Def nominate RickyRick95 report below for ROD. Great read, reminding us all why Scandallo is top spot worldwide. Love all the detail. You truly feel like you are there. Super glad you got to experience that second girl at Scandallo. That's what we go there for. She was your classic Brasileira in attitude — fully in the moment and truly enjoying her time with you. Not just doing a job and clocking out.
Top report! Thanks RR.
On Google maps it says Casarao is open regular hours on Sundays. True? I found that a bit surprising but would be great. Anyone been? Lame?Casarao is basically open 7 days a week, even most holidays.
Sundays aren't terrible, and in fact you can find some gems who work at other clubs the rest of the week, so it can be worthwhile. This Sunday I sessioned with a girl who normally works at Bomboa, and I've seen a Scandallo girl or two there, though not the top tier ones obviously. My only warning is it can take longer for things to get busy, on a Sunday it could easily be a ghost town until 1-2 am. Worth the trip IMO as long as you don't mind potentially being out until 4 am.
Also great post Ricky. As far as the girl complaining about the club charging her R300, that's the fine for missing a day. Girls are scheduled to work five days, and if they miss any of them they owe the fine for that week.
As previously indicated last week made my first visit to SP after being a very hyped up place for mongering, let me begin by saying just one thing, usually after having big expectations of something reality can be often disappointing. Let me tell you, in this case the expectations were met and surpassed. Thanks for all the information it was really helpful.And another successful convert to the ways of the Brazilian bunda! Yep, yep. Go to Brazil. Butt fuck one of your favorite porn stars. Sounds familiar LMAO! Welcome to the club!
As previously indicated last week made my first visit to SP after being a very hyped up place for mongering, let me begin by saying just one thing, usually after having big expectations of something reality can be often disappoiting. Let me tell you, in this case the expectations were met and surpassed. If you guys bear with me I will tell my experience in a long and detail manner as all was very striking to me as all were my firsts in SP, and also through writing I relive those great memories.
And this is how it is done!
Great report and I am counting down the days till my next trip in Feb 2024.
Hello gents!
I will be solo-visiting SP from Dec 17-22 before heading to Rio and Buzios. Please DM me and we could exchange details.
Also hit me up if any of you would like to catch up for a drink or something.
Decided to hit up Casarao and take a break from my regulars in Sao Paulo. Got there around 11:45 pm. Glad packed probably around 50 plus girls with equal or more guys to match. Did my walk through to the back and down the stairs for a couple rounds to see the talent. And sadly there wasn't much that I liked. Posted up and watched the scene. Had multiple girls try to make eye contact, position themselves in front of me to the point of damn standing on my toes. I think maybe one girl sparked my interest out of the 50 plus there but after more examination I lost interest. I know I sound like and old man but definitely not what it use to be. This use to be a sure fire hotness location for 200-300 reais. Maybe just a bad night. I stayed an hour and went to Bomboa.
Bomboa was packed but it's small so didn't need that man people there to pack it out. Much better looking women but less than 50 with maybe 40 dudes there. Sat by the bar after waiter tried to sit me where I didn't want. Soon as I got a drink, I got hounded by different girls trying to talk to me. Politely declined them because I wanted to see who all was there. But it was pointless because as soon as one walked away others came all dang night. So I just gave up and bought two of the ones that were trying everything in the book to talk to me. I thought I can just sit and drink with them while peeping out the scene. I tried to let them know I wasnt going to program with them but they still kept trying. There were some girls that I did want to talk to but they were already with a couple guys so I just called it a night. One of the girls I declined and brought a drink asked me for a caixinha, gorjeta or tip. And I ask for what and the other girl start laughing. I say my goodbyes and the waiter who tried to seat me pops out nowhere when I'm at the counter paying to leave. He ask the same thing the girl did and I tell him the same thing, for what? You didn't do anything. I tipped the bartender already and didn't see any need to tip anyone else. Then my Uber comes and a guy outside runs to open the door and keeps it open asking me for a tip. I just act like I don't understand and tell him chao chao. Luckily I've been doing this long enough to know you can't win every night and live to monger another day.
Axel Heyst
12-09-23, 21:10
Thanks for the solid reportage on a timely issue currently evolving in Bomboa. Here's is a little personal background info to add to the story: I visited Bamboa for the first time in Nov 2021 shortly after it reopened. I was assigned a waiter, I have forgotten his name, but I will get it tonight when I go there tonight. He was 1st rate and he never had the presumption to ask for a tip, but I gave him a little something (200 Br) for his excellent service during my cumulative 8 bar visits that trip although I admit I was reluctant to give him a tip because as I understand local customs, Brazil is not a tipping culture and I really prefer not to stand out or act differently than the locals.
Anyway, things went the same way at Bomboa on my 3rd Brazil trip in April 2022. Same Waiter / no tip requests / great service and I rewarded him with another cumulative tip before I left town.
But then on my 4th visit in Nov 2022 things changed. I was assigned a new waiter, and I went along with the change because my old waiter knew and approved the change and I therefore saw no reason to object. My new waiter was a short guy with short hair. I forgot his name, but again I might get it tonight for full disclosure. He was a good waiter, but when I went to the front desk to settle my bill, he took me aside and hit me up for a tip. I told him I was a repeat customer, and he should talk to my old waiter about how I treated him. Then I added if you don't bother me anymore about a tip, I will remember to take care of you before I leave town. I looked him straight in the eye and said, do you understand me? And he replied, yes Sir.
Ok, mission accomplished or so I thought. But the dummy kept pestering about a tip each and every time (6 x total) that I visited Bomboa during the remainder of that trip. The end result: he got nada from me and that is what he deserved IMHO.
Anyway, fast forward to my following May / June 2023 SP trip. Undeterred by pesky waiters BS, I went to Bomboa early on in that trip and the 1st thing I did was to request my old waiter be reinstated as my waiter. I made the request right in front of both men. Fuck it! I spend enough money in this joint to have the way I like it and I was not in the mood to take anymore shite from the impertinent waiter. I didn't give a damn what he thought. The end result: I was no longer bothered by the guy and I continued to my patronage of the club while nobody hit me up for another tip.
Now the question arises: did my pesty waiter ever request a tip from local customers? I am not 100% sure about this, although I highly doubt it. So that is the issue. Are some of the staff practicing price discrimination against gringos and other foreign customers? And if so, what is management's position on this?
The guys at the front door never hit me up for a tip in the past. They know who I am, and we always exchanged in a little friendly banter on my way in and out of the bordello. I always thought they were good guys. So, tonight is going to be interesting. KKK. And I will update the story after I check things out.
A. H.
I stayed an hour and went to Bomboa.
Bomboa was packed but it's small so didn't need that man people there to pack it out. Much better looking women but less than 50 with maybe 40 dudes there. Sat by the bar after waiter tried to sit me where I didn't want. Soon as I got a drink, I got hounded by different girls trying to talk to me. Politely declined them because I wanted to see who all was there. But it was pointless because as soon as one walked away others came all dang night. So I just gave up and bought two of the ones that were trying everything in the book to talk to me. I thought I can just sit and drink with them while peeping out the scene. I tried to let them know I wasnt going to program with them but they still kept trying. There were some girls that I did want to talk to but they were already with a couple guys so I just called it a night. One of the girls I declined and brought a drink asked me for a caixinha, gorjeta or tip. And I ask for what and the other girl start laughing. I say my goodbyes and the waiter who tried to seat me pops out nowhere when I'm at the counter paying to leave. He ask the same thing the girl did and I tell him the same thing, for what? You didn't do anything. I tipped the bartender already and didn't see any need to tip anyone else. Then my Uber comes and a guy outside runs to open the door and keeps it open asking me for a tip. I just act like I don't understand and tell him chao chao. Luckily I've been doing this long enough to know you can't win every night and live to monger another day.
Hi, I appreciate all the contributors here.
My first visit to Brazil will be in the last week of December and I wonder about vibes at that time.
I will visit clubs / termas mostly, while staying in two cities: 2 or 3 nights from Monday in SP, 2 or 3 nights from Wednesday in RJ, Saturday night in SP.
I heard that many stores / restaurants are closed on weekends, so I am especially wondering how it is in clubs / termas on Saturday in SP.
I have a return flight on Sunday night (Dec. 31). What can I do in the afternoon?
I prefer somewhere I can choose from multiple girls and I can take a shower after a session.
I think clinicas are a good option. Are they mostly closed on Sundays? I think someone said so in a post.
But as I search Tangara and Yankin on google map, they are open on Sundays.
So I am confused.
To pay girls with cash, daily withdrawal or exchange for that night seems to be the best as I think.
Then, what is the best way to exchange USD to Real?
I do not have an account that waives ATM fees.
What about foreign exchange shops? Are there reliable exchange shops in safe areas?
Steve 9696
12-10-23, 05:00
Hi, I appreciate all the contributors here.
My first visit to Brazil will be in the last week of December and I wonder about vibes at that time.
I will visit clubs / termas mostly, while staying in two cities: 2 or 3 nights from Monday in SP, 2 or 3 nights from Wednesday in RJ, Saturday night in SP.
I heard that many stores / restaurants are closed on weekends, so I am especially wondering how it is in clubs / termas on Saturday in SP.
I have a return flight on Sunday night (Dec. 31). What can I do in the afternoon?
I prefer somewhere I can choose from multiple girls and I can take a shower after a session.
I think clinicas are a good option. Are they mostly closed on Sundays? I think someone said so in a post.
But as I search Tangara and Yankin on google map, they are open on Sundays.
So I am confused.
To pay girls with cash, daily withdrawal or exchange for that night seems to be the best as I think.
Then, what is the best way to exchange USD to Real?
I do not have an account that waives ATM fees.
What about foreign exchange shops? Are there reliable exchange shops in safe areas?Saturday's are fine. No worries. Sundays are tougher. Tanagara is open but most of the higher end clinicas are closed. Just use the ATM. The bank ATM fee will be tiny compared to money exchangers. Just make sure to choose the "no conversion" option to get the best rate.
Importantly Brasil is not like US with ATM in every hotel and open all hours. Best to get all you need before 10 Pm.
Best to get all you need before 10 Pm.If you find yourself in a bind just Google: 24 HR ATMs near me.
Cheers!
But as I search Tangara and Yankin on google map, they are open on Sundays.
So I am confused.
To pay girls with cash, daily withdrawal or exchange for that night seems to be the best as I think.
Prime and Miruna are also open on Sunday.
You can withdraw 2500 from most Bradesco ATMs. The Bradesco ATM at GRU is on the second floor of T2 where the small food court is, look up when you are on first floor.
Thanks for the solid reportage on a timely issue currently evolving in Bomboa. Here's is a little personal background info to add to the story: I visited Bamboa for the first time in Nov 2021 shortly after it reopened. I was assigned a waiter, I have forgotten his name, but I will get it tonight when I go there tonight. He was 1st rate and he never had the presumption to ask for a tip, but I gave him a little something (200 Br) for his excellent service during my cumulative 8 bar visits that trip although I admit I was reluctant to give him a tip because as I understand local customs, Brazil is not a tipping culture and I really prefer not to stand out or act differently than the locals.
Anyway, things went the same way at Bomboa on my 3rd Brazil trip in April 2022. Same Waiter / no tip requests / great service and I rewarded him with another cumulative tip before I left town.
But then on my 4th visit in Nov 2022 things changed. I was assigned a new waiter, and I went along with the change because my old waiter knew and approved the change and I therefore saw no reason to object. My new waiter was a short guy with short hair. I forgot his name, but again I might get it tonight for full disclosure. He was a good waiter, but when I went to the front desk to settle my bill, he took me aside and hit me up for a tip. I told him I was a repeat customer, and he should talk to my old waiter about how I treated him. Then I added if you don't bother me anymore about a tip, I will remember to take care of you before I leave town. I looked him straight in the eye and said, do you understand me? And he replied, yes Sir.
Ok, mission accomplished or so I thought. But the dummy kept pestering about a tip each and every time (6 x total) that I visited Bomboa during the remainder of that trip. The end result: he got nada from me and that is what he deserved IMHO.
Anyway, fast forward to my following May / June 2023 SP trip. Undeterred by pesky waiters BS, I went to Bomboa early on in that trip and the 1st thing I did was to request my old waiter be reinstated as my waiter. I made the request right in front of both men. Fuck it! I spend enough money in this joint to have the way I like it and I was not in the mood to take anymore shite from the impertinent waiter. I didn't give a damn what he thought. The end result: I was no longer bothered by the guy and I continued to my patronage of the club while nobody hit me up for another tip.
Now the question arises: did my pesty waiter ever request a tip from local customers? I am not 100% sure about this, although I highly doubt it. So that is the issue. Are some of the staff practicing price discrimination against gringos and other foreign customers? And if so, what is management's position on this?
The guys at the front door never hit me up for a tip in the past. They know who I am, and we always exchanged in a little friendly banter on my way in and out of the bordello. I always thought they were good guys. So, tonight is going to be interesting. KKK. And I will update the story after I check things out.
A. H.I never give a tip to anyone who asks for one and that includes chicas even if they have rendered good service. I went into this Chinese store in Boca chica, the DR and this security dude with a shot gun hit me up for a tip when I was departing, WTF??!!
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Now the question arises: did my pesty waiter ever request a tip from local customers? I am not 100% sure about this, although I highly doubt it. So that is the issue. Are some of the staff practicing price discrimination against gringos and other foreign customers? And if so, what is management's position on this?
The guys at the front door never hit me up for a tip in the past. They know who I am, and we always exchanged in a little friendly banter on my way in and out of the bordello. I always thought they were good guys. So, tonight is going to be interesting. KKK. And I will update the story after I check things out.
A. H.I think they probably ask foreigners because I didn't notice locals being asked while I checked out and waited for my Uber. It's annoying for sure but the women make up for but I was surprised one of the girls asked me for "caixinha", "gorjetas" (tips). Especially when I never approached her, tried to get away from her LOL. But it is what it is. I just politely tell them no or I'm not interested and they leave me alone for tips.
I think they probably ask foreigners because I didn't notice locals being asked while I checked out and waited for my Uber. It's annoying for sure but the women make up for but I was surprised one of the girls asked me for "caixinha", "gorjetas" (tips). Especially when I never approached her, tried to get away from her LOL. But it is what it is. I just politely tell them no or I'm not interested and they leave me alone for tips.One time at Bomboa a chick asked me if I would buy her some ice cream. I agreed, and we sat there and had a nice conversation while she ate the ice cream and I enjoyed my drink. And that was the extent of it. Another time at Centaurus in Rio, a girl who I had just taken to the room asked me afterwards in the boate if I would buy her a sandwich. Although the session had been decent, I really wasn't into her. Didn't really care for her personality. So, my answer was "no". Buy your own damn sandwich with the money I just paid you!
Prime and Miruna are also open on Sunday. You can withdraw 2500 from most Bradesco ATMs. The Bradesco ATM at GRU is on the second floor of T2 where the small food court is, look up when you are on first floor.
If you find yourself in a bind just Google: 24 HR ATMs near me. Cheers!
Saturday's are fine. No worries. Sundays are tougher. Tanagara is open but most of the higher end clinicas are closed. Just use the ATM. The bank ATM fee will be tiny compared to money exchangers. Just make sure to choose the "no conversion" option to get the best rate. Importantly Brasil is not like US with ATM in every hotel and open all hours. Best to get all you need before 10 Pm.Thanks for your answers.
Here are some more questions.
Scandallo and Casarao are in my*plan. I heard that girls are mostly dressed (unlike FKKs where girls are almost naked). Would it be easy to check how tits look like before going into*a session?*After I show interest to a girl, while talking / drinking together before negotiation, are they okay showing their tits or are they reluctant?
I want to spend a night by bringing a girl to my place. Is there any extra fee that I need to pay to the club (like a bar fine in Thai)? Are most hotels okay with bringing*a girl? What about those labelled as "apartments" on booking dot com or expedia? I remember some other sites (wikisexguide or girlsheaven) clearly saying that not many hotels are girl-friendly in*Brazil, so they listed a few girl-friendly hotels. I know in the worst case, I need to find a love motel.
In terms of overnight stay with a girl, as I read here, it is suggested to have a session inside a club and then meet outside the next day or a few days later, to make sure that the girl is reliable and has good*chemistry. Actually my biggest concern is being robbed of money / valuables while I am in a deep sleep. Can I ask more of your thoughts on that?
For overnight stay, detailed negotiation*is also required? Like how many hours, how many times of*sex and what extras, etc. I want to include BBBJ, cum in mouth (or on boobs) and fingering (with my fingers covered with a condom) as extras.
As previously indicated last week made my first visit to SP after being a very hyped up place for mongering, let me begin by saying just one thing, usually after having big expectations of something reality can be often disappoiting. Let me tell you, in this case the expectations were met and surpassed. If you guys bear with me I will tell my experience in a long and detail manner as all was very striking to me as all were my firsts in SP, and also through writing I relive those great memories.
1 rst day Thursday 30th Web escort-famous content creator / porn actress.
After arriving very early on the morning, took an uber directly to a mall very close to my Airbnb in Vila Olimpia, my telephone company fortunately gives me international data for Brazil at no extra cost, perk of having the same telephone company in both countries. After arriving at the mall my buddy and I, change the dollars we had to BRL Reais, the rate was not great but definitely better than the airport, I guess foreigners can't get the rate that indicates Google but oh well the difference was not that much. After that we had breakfast and contacted my Airbnb host to check the possibility of an early check in. As I was in a hurry to get in the Airbnb to get freshed up because as I mentioned in my previous posts I had booked Luiza Marcato a well known escort and content creator for that same very day early in the after noon, before the check in time in my Airbnb. I did this because it was her last day in SP and the only hour she was available. Well long story short the host try to sped up the cleaning of the apartment so I could check in early but I was not fast enough and had no other choice to go to Luiza's flat as I was after a 5 hour flight, hoping she would lend me her shower. Took an uber to her flat and left my buddy at the Airbnb lobby. In appearance it was short distance but due to the horrible SP traffic and me saying this coming from a city in south America known for having one of the worst traffics, is saying something. Well after a 30 min ride I arrived, checked with Luiza if she was ready, responded that she needed a couple of minutes, so I waited in the lobby and after a few minutes she told me the apartment number, went to the receptionist and in my "Portuol" announced my visit, the receptionist called Luiza and told me to wait for her to come down for me as the elevators only work with a key, which a first did not understand and tried to go up on the elevator, which obviously did not work and the receptionist had to tell me again to wait till she came down for me if I did not have a key, which only then I understood. I was only a few hours in SP with few hours sleep, felt a little embarrassed for my inexperience in this types of affairs so I waited in the lobby until a couple of minutes later she came down and god damned what a women she was in a tight gym outfit highlighting her amazing figure, a rock solid ass and great tits. Quickly went up with her, got in her apartment told her I only speak a little Portuguese and helpfully she indeed speak a little Spanish with a Spain accent for some reason, I assumed she may had work in Spain. But after some chitchat in which we could communicate well, after all Spanish and Portuguese are very similar, I could take a shower thank goodness. As I left the bathroom I found her totally naked in all 4's waiting for me, amazing view of that ass so I could not resist and started kissing that ass and gave a few licks to that pussy. After that the performance was as you could expect from a porn actress real hardcore, DFK, sloppy BBBJ looking at me with those stricking grayish eyes as she performed. Balls sucking and deepthroat as rough as I wanted, a dream come true after jercking off to her videos for the last couple of years. Then sex in various positions and as she was riding me in cowgirl she told me, "now in my culo", and before I could realize what she meant she stuck my cock in her asshole and started riding me even harder. Anal is not really my thing but I really enjoyed that tight ass, and that girl really loved it as well as I pound that ass as hard as I could. After a while she started sucking me off hard as I CIM. Totally ecstatic after that I took another shower, and chatted various trivial thing she was very nice and friendly told me she had been filming content the last few days and that finding pro male talent was hard, and more trivial friendly matters. After that I told her I was ready again, started with another hardcore BBBJ, after I got hard more pounding in several positions until again I CIM, unfortunately she does not swallow. After that I asked her if I could take a few pictures as a souvenir, she must have liked me somewhat because she agreed, even though when coordinating our date before she clearly stated she did not allowed videos or photos as she was a pro. But I believed that after telling her all the effort I made to be able to see her, practically getting of the plane directly to see her, it earn me some points, so she allowed me to take a few pictures of her amazing ass with me as well in the mirror and some selfies of us kissing as if were lovers. What a woman hot as hell and also very kind and lovely, Sp had welcomed me in a great way and this was only the preamble of my experiences in the next couple of days. After another shower got dressed, payed her and said goodbye with a couple more passionate kisses and she gently caressed my crotch for the last time before parting ways.
After that went back to my Airbnb to find my buddy already checked in, resting in the apartment. Went out to dinner, planning to rest for the night even though we knew Thursdays was the best day at Scandallo but we were totally exhausted, as my buddy had also sessioned with a web escort he found in Splove that had a place a couple of blocks away from our Airbnb, great session as well according to him, even though he would later regret this escapade, you will see why later.
So we decided to call it a night after a couple of beers and watching the local beautys walk past by in the mall, man you fall in love in every corner in this fucking city, and hope for the best at scandallo on Friday.
2nd day Friday 1st The world's famous Scandallo
The next day we did some tourist stuff in the morning visited Parque Ibirapuera where we feasted our eyes not only with the natural beauty of the park, which had very central park vibes, but mainly with the local women God damn! What beautiful women, you could find every type of girl you could imagine blonds, brunnetes, mulatas, Latina type it was an impressive diversity. Some times I forgot I was in south America and not in some Cosmopolitan European city. I've been to the states many times and I have never seen so many beatyful girls in that quantity anywhere.
Well after more touristy stuff in the afternoon we got back to the Airbnb to get ready for Scandallo, we decided to go before 7 pm to not pay the R200 cover that you have to pay after 7.
We took an uber around 5:45 pm after drinking a couple of beers to get in the mood, the uber took several minutes to arrive and we where afraid we would not get to scandallo in time before 7, due to the Sp traffic. Fortunately the traffic was not so bad and after 40 min we arrived, I must confess I was a little nervous did not know exactly why maybe excitement to finally visited the much hyped scandallo or maybe at the same time fear to be disappointed due to my high expectations. In any case we arrived, got inside reception after being checked by security, the first impression already was positive the place looked very classy as the lobby of a high end hotel would look like. As I was registering a woman passed by looking amazing and in that moment all my fears of being disappointed fade away. After being registered and had being explained how the card system worked we went up in the elevator. FUCK as we walked out of the elevator, even though the ambiance was very calm as it was early, there where at least 10-15 girls in the sofas outside the restaurant area, it was very overwhelming because all of these insanely hot girls all dressed in spectacular fashions were staring at us, as we were figuring out what the hell we should do, I quickly decided, before the pressure of being stared at by a bunch of super model types of girls burn a hole in my skull, to go to the restaurant area. Passed in front of all this girls just to find an amazing quiet area where people where having drinks and dinner, an area that you would usually find in a high end restaurant in any city of the world. Still very overwhelmed we sat down with my buddy and feasted our eyes with the 30 plus girls that were there at that early part of the evening, we ordered a couple of drinks and decided to chill out a bit to digest if all of this was real or if we were just dreaming. Although there were not that many girls as later in the night would be, the girls still were hot as hell every type you could imagine. My buddy and I were like children in a candyshop drooling at every "candy" in the shelf, the next looking tastier than the last one. Previously we decided our "strategy" that we would not invite or approach at any women before 10-11 pm, where supposedly most of the women arrived. Although I had seen a couple girls, especially one that was very slim but with curves a tiny waist a great ass and really cute young face, that if I had no previously decided not to do anything before said time I would have in an instant called her for a couple of drinks, but for better or worse decided to wait for later in the night. As we were in the restaurant having a couple caipirinhas we were approached by at least 3 pairs of girls trying to accompany us, but after some chichat the classics where are you from, first time here, etc, We politely send them away, we were determined to stick to our plan. As we were enjoying our time just drinking and watching all the amazing girls pass by and slowly arriving more girls and gentlemen we thought the terrace patio area was close for being too early because from the restaurant the entrance to the patio was closed, so we did not move from the restaurant for like 2-3 hours until we realize the other areas were already open, maybe there were always open but because we did not move from the restaurant we didn't know, so we decided to finally move and check around, passed the disco area and games area to reach the patio, where it was already full with people and even more beautiful girls we did not see at the restaurant, we sat down at one of the few free spots and watched the whole show like 50 plus girls already there standing in the bar or just in the middle of the area as if they were waiters just waiting to be called by a client, if I was already overwhelmed this exploded my mind. We sat there for a few minutes until a couple of girls approached us and sat down with us, before asking if that was ok, as it was already close to 10 pm we decided to start chatting so we let them stay. They were a stunning curvy blond and a stunning slim brunet for my buddy, we talked the classic stuff and although they were very nice at least the blonde was in mi case she even invited my her vape but I was not planning to be hunted I wanted to be the hunter I wanted to choose not be chosen so even though the chat was very nice and the blonde was hot as hell I did not show a sign of even inviting her a drink much less to have a session as I play dumb and told her I did not know how the fucking system worked in scandallo, she explain that most of the girls fee was R1500 and the in the second floor was a hotel that cost R300 plus the girls fee. I faked surprised at the fee and told her I was not sure if I was going to session that night, so after a couple of minutes she took off to the "bathroom". Obviously she did not came back and my buddy's brunnet also took off, in my buddy's case he was interested in the girl but some actituted of the girl put him off, according to him this girl seemed very desperate to go have a session also she seemed very intense in the way that she asked my buddy in what he worked on, if he could give her a job and started complaining that scandallo was abusive in their treatment of the girls because they charge them 300 R for the entrance same as men but not consumable just a fee to enter and work there, so that attitude put off my buddy, complaining, desperate to session was a downer for him, apparently this girl's strategy was to make men feel sorry for her, but in this kind of place you come to have fun not to hear a girl complaining about her life. So she left after realizing with my buddy it was going nowhere.
Well after the first chats with the girls I was decided I was going to choose this time not be chosen but before I could do anything a couple of new girls approached us a blond for my buddy and a brunnet with tan skin, mulata type but with a big bunda and thick legs for me, because she sat down so fast and did not see where she came from and could not check her body out completely. But oh well I let her stay to chat a little and surprisingly she was very charming she knew a lot of things from my country as she had lived there 3 months for a university exchange or something spoke Spanish and we really hit it off, she was all flirty so she convinced me to invite her a drink, we kept chatting and before a realize my buddy was leaving with her blond quite fast. Later he told me she was very flirty and reminded him of a American porstar he really liked and most of all because she agreed to a fee of R600. For me she was a tier 2 girl, because she was on the older side 34 yo, but my buddy likes bargains and from 1500 to 600 looked like the offer of the year to him so he took her upstairs for a session. After my buddy left I stay with my girl for 30 min or so thinking she is no exactly my type but as we are really hitting it off at least this will be a great fuck, we chatted a little more kissed a little and then negotiated the rate she told me the standard rate the apparently all the girls have stablished as default is R1500, I told her that it was my first time I did not know those were the prices and only had R600, she told me playfully that it was too low but as she liked my she could accept 800. So I agreed and off we went, as I was following her to the elevator to pick her stuff up and go to the rooms, I could finally checked her body out and she was too thick for my usual tastes but oh well resigned to at least have a great performance with her I continued. Once in the rooms she took her close off and as mentioned it was not I was hoping for, of course she still was hot but not what I wanted in my personal taste, other thing was that in a rookie mistake a did not clarify the terms of the Service BBBJ, number of shots, etc. So she wanted to start sucking me off covered and surprised I thought, damn it I screw up did not clarify the Service terms beforehand, so in that moment I asked her if I could have BBBJ she said no she did no do that, but as I begged her just the tip at least, I guess she thought well fuck it and started Licking the tip but I guess she could not control herself and started going full BBBJ hardcore sloppy and forgot about the rubber. After that Little impasse was sorted out the session continued great with several positions, DFK, hard pounding in doggy, hard ass spanking, choking her throat real hardcore until a I cum in the rubber. In between shots she took out a dildo from her bag and said to me now is my turn to cum, she started masturbating while she told me to suck her tits, I must admit that was really hot a proof, I thought, that this Brazilian girls really enjoy this shit is not a mere job for them. After a while she cummed and I was hard again and continue pounding her hard until she came a couple more times, finally I also cum in the rubber again after pounding her ass so hard that I left it red, she really liked it rough. After that I asked her if I could take a couple pics she said ok but not of her face, she cover her face with the pillow and took a couple of pictures of that big bunda.
As we finished I was thinking that I wanted another girl even though this session was pretty great I wanted a girl more of my taste slim white with European features model type but with that Brazilian bunda, that mix of European features and Brazilian curves for me at least is the best, is the type of girl it would be impossible to find in my country, big ass thick Latina type you can find easily that is why I wanted the type of girl I could not fuck in my country. So we finished and she told me that now I could go rest drink a couple more caipirinhas and if I wanted fuck another girl, she was very nice and funny. Most if not all Brazilian girls are like this very friendly and outgoing like they are genuinely your friend.
I went down met my buddy and immediately did rigurous math in my mind to figure out if I had enough cash for a second session. I had planned to pay for everything in cash but after doing the math in my head I realice that I only had BR800 tops for the session and the room would had to be paid with CC.
My buddy was done for the night but not for lack of energy for another session but for lack of cash regretting the session he had with the girl he found on the web yesterday considering all the options for a second session he had there lesson learned for next time, so I told him that I wanted another session with a girl more of type he didn't have a problem of hanging out until I had my second session just enjoying the view of the many girls that were there a 12 am around 100 or so. So as I was again a little overwhelmed again for the vast options I had at my disposal did not know who to choose now, I thought I had to choose carefully now, so as I was roaming the room I see the Slim girl I with the tiny waist I saw at the beginning of the night now in a different set of clothes, I noticed girls change their outfits as the night progresses. But as I saw her I also notice she is with a dude they were very close and she was hanging from the guys neck as he was very tall, I though well I lost my chance in the end waiting for something better does not always pays, if you see someone you like a lot just call her immediately next time, thought to myself. My buddy told me that if I liked her so much wait for her to return after she sessions with the guy but it thought nehh, with some many hot girls around why should I wait for one girl. But as I was saying this a notice the girl leaves the dude and she returns to the disco area and I saw her standing there with the rest of the girls, fuck it I go as fast as I can and approach her told her if I could invite her a drink she gladly said yes, we went to the restaurant and I asked her what she like to drink, she did not speak Spanish but she told me she spoke english so we started speaking English, I noticed then she was a Little tipsy and she indeed told me she had much to drink and only ordered a coconut water and I order a beer, but seeing her up close I even liked her more she was really beautiful. But as the waiter brings our beverages she tells me to excuse her for a bit she has to go to the bathroom, she leaves and I was very happy imagining what she would like later sucking my cock with that beautiful inocent looking face with striking green eyes. But quickly I am brought down to reality as almost 10 min passes and the girl does not return, I am starting to worry, my buddy then texts my asking me if I was still with the same girl, I told her I am waiting for her that she went to the bathroom but she was taking too long, he tells me that he just saw her with the same dude we saw her before I approached her, they went for the rooms. I could not believe what a ***** she was by leaving me after ordering her fucking drink. My buddy then comes where I was, and tells me that he saw the girl apparently indeed returning from the bathroom but the guy approached her again and immediately took her to the elevator for the rooms. My guess is he was bargaining her fee before, they did not reach an agreement and she left and in that moment is when I approach her, the dude must have seen me with her thinking he lost his chance and as he saw her alone coming from the bathroom took her immediately to the rooms for the fee she asked him. Still she was a ***** for leaving me hanging after ordering a fucking drink, least she could do was to tell me she was leaving and she was sorry but she was way to drunk to care or embarrassed for making me order something and then leave. Well shit happens, left with my buddy the restaurant area and went back to the patio where I sat down for a bit and as the night was not getting any younger I quickly scouted the area and the first Slim girl with European features I saw I quickly approached her. Ask her if I could invite her a drink she gladly said yes, she was with a friend and as she saw me with my buddy she told me if my buddy did not want company I told her he already sessioned he was resting, she said ok and ordered a gin and tonic and off we went for a sofa to have a chat. She was the kind of girl I was looking for Slim but with curves great fake tits and fit, she did speak really Good Spanish that she learned from just talking to clients, she never studied it, she was well versed in many subjects and was fun and friendly, she told me that Fridays and Saturdays where slow days for me that day was awesome with lots of girls she insisted that was nothing that Thursdays and Wednesdays are in another level with double the girls, damn I could not imagine even more girls, she also told me some gossip that many famous people from Brasil and the world visited scandallo, from the local famous she could not speak but from the international one she told me that last one to visit was a very famous American pop Singer top of the charts in recent years that was just recently touring south America this past months. Even I went to his concert when he visited my country, big fan. She told me he came to hang out a bit in a private area on the second floor of the disco and after a while pick 4 girls and took them to his suite in some hotel in the city. She thought that as he was American he would be into big bunda thick latina type and thought he would not choose her, but was all the opposite he liked Slim White girls and giggling told me he choose her and 3 other girls, I guess now me and of my favorite artists are as we call in my country "hermanos de leche" or eskimo brothers, when 2 guys have fucked the same girl hahaha.
After a pleasant time chatting an hour or so when she finished her drink, started the negotiating part and the same as all the other girls standard R1500, told her that was my first time here did not know the prices I could offer her R700, she told me impossible her bare minimum is R1000, I insisted was too much for me and she left it a 900, for R100 was not letting her go so of we went to the rooms. In the elevators we found another couple they started speaking Portuguese and my girl told them it was my first time there the other girl laugh said that it was the first time of her guy too even though he was a local, he asked me where I was from, all laughing, and my girl said she did not believe it was the guy's first time he had a face of being a seasoned monger, all was in Portuguese but I understood, we all laugh and each couple went to their room. What a place scandallo a utopia for men. Well once in the room we took a shower saw my girl's body fully naked as we showered what a beautiful woman she used minimum make up and looked natural but still was really amazing and cute GND type of style. Just as we were finishing the shower I once again realized that I did not clarify the terms of the Service number of shots, BBBJ or DFK. But all my fears went I away as we lay on the bed I could not resist at that beautiful Pink pussy and started a DATY, watching her cute face enjoying it was one of my top experiences after a while she told me to go 69 so she can suck my cock. Indeed we went on 69, I was eating that pussy as my life depended on it and she just began the BBBJ included balls and all also putting her tongue near my asshole that girl really liked to suck dick thankfully she did not try to pull a CBJ like the last girl, also as I was eating her out put my finger in her ass making her shake a tremble in pleasure. After that I put on the rubber and begin the fuck fest, in every position with DFK for a longtime as this was my second session of the night I was not that sensitive, after 30 min of continued pounding I asked her if she wanted to rest because I was not Cumming, she told me she wanted to go on. But I was exhausted of so much pounding so I told her I need 5 to rest. We lay down and cuddle full GFE with soft kissing. After a few minutes I was ready again we begin with another BBBJ and then sex in various positions having the view of that girl riding was like I was on a dream. She rode me so hard I could feel she was Cumming I asked her if she indeed was and she ask me how did I know. I told her I felt her pussy twitching on my cock and the for intensity of how she was riding me. Finally I had her in doggy fucking her as hard as I could, that white ass was left all red of all the pounding, when I finally cummed in the rubber. After that we lay on bed glaring at each other's eyes as she was stroking my hair, telling me she really liked me that I was cheiroso and muito gatinho, this girls have a way of making you feel really desired and that are really into you I guess what you call IoP, for a moment a did really believe that I even blushed at her compliments. For a moment we were falling asleep but it was getting late and I had left my buddy waiting so I quickly got up and went to the shower with her. We got clean and she offered me mouthwash she had in her bag. I asked her a photo as a souvenir she agreed but with clothes on but I was so ecstatic and happy that I completely forgot to ask her by the end of the session regrettably. One interesting thing she told me, I don't know if it is true for all the girls is that for older men they charge more, this came up because she told me I have baby face I am in my late 20's but that is a thing many girls have told me, that is why I grew up a beard to look older, I told her this but she replied saying that looking younger was a good thing even more in a place like this because, that's when she told me, that they charge more to older men, she told me for example she charged a Chilean man in his 50's R2500, and so I should be happy to look Young. I guess it's true that some girls charge you more if they really don't like you, in this girl's case she charges more to older men others may charge more to overweight men or to a guy that for some reason they don't like. She also told me that she is very respectful when a guy a approaches her she stays with him until he wants, she told me she saw a regular of hers but as I approach her before he did, she stayed with me even though her regular gave her some disappointed looks when he saw us leaving for the rooms. A very respectful approach unlike the other girl the left me hanging to go with another guy.
Even though I forgot to ask for the picture at least in the end I asked her number to contact her through whatsapp, for a next time I am in SP. She gladly gave it to me.
After that we parted ways with a Kiss, I looked for my buddy and left after paying the consumable card fee with CC because I had burned through all my cash with the 2 sessions.
Finally left around 3:30 am happy after finally getting to experience what many call paridise on earth, did not disappoint one of those rare ocations where all the hype and big expectations are met and surpassed. And it was a slow day only god knows how it would be in a Thursday. Sadly I had destined the rest of my mongering money to a threesome with 2 hot girls from the web that I've been gollowing on twitter for some time for the next day, I left wanting to come back day after as well but I would not be possible. As this post is already incredible long then threesome will be post later.
Thank for all the information it was really helpful. Attached a couple of pics of scandallo.How much did she charge? I follow her on Twitter been wanting to get my hands on her. Got to love SP for the ability to fuck porn stars.
Axel Heyst
12-11-23, 13:51
As planned I went to Bomboa for the 1st time this trip last Saturday night. My previous experiences were that Saturdays are usually slow Boate nights in SP, but I was confident that I would still find what I wanted or at the very least find what I needed. KKK, I mean, wtf, Bomboa has never let me down thus far.
So, I arrived around 9:30. One of the front door guys remembered me and gave me strong handshake / welcome back. I walked into the joint past the front desk and the 1st guy I bumped into was Marcos, the good waiter I mentioned in my previous post. He seemed to be genuinely happy and a little surprised to see me back in the fold. He and another waiter (not the pest) gave me a firm handshake followed up with 2 big bear hugs. This warm welcoming occurred in front of the 5 or 6 girls siting at the tables that line the wall on the right side of the room. I looked their way to see how my reception was being perceived. I think the girls were duly impressed. Ha Ha. But, that is one of things I like about Bomboa. It is like a friendly neighborhood bordello where everyone knows your name.
As expected, however, it looked like it was going to be a quiet night. I counted maybe 40 to 45 girls present (maybe less), and no more than 10 customers. I sat among the girls along the wall and ordered a coke zero. The girl on my right was an ok blond, but the girl on my left was definitely not my type, so naturally the girl on my left wanted a cheek kiss and she began hitting on me. I told her I did not speak Porto and waited for her to give up on the idea of sweeping me off my feet.
I ordered a coke zero, then got up, and roamed around the place, spotting 3 or 4 girls that looked like real possibles. Then I sat down in a quieter part of the bar where I could just sit back and observe things for a little while. The problem is I am no good at waiting. KKK. So, after I determined who was the prettiest girl, a brunette, currently in the bar, I knew I wasn't going to be able to wait it out much longer for someone better even though I am keenly aware that sometimes waiting 30 to 60 minutes can lead to more results. This girl was cute enough, so I eventually waived her over and she was all smiles.
After the preliminary opening conversation, she placed my hand on her breasts. I knew from across the room that they were silly cones, but I joked, "are they real?" She laughed and said they were now – because she paid for them. Marcos came by and I ordered 2 real drinks for us and yada yada yada, the brunette passed the audition with flying colors. She made her final pitch when she asked what I liked. I said I liked to kiss and make love. She said I do too! Let's go upstairs and I will show you. I asked how much. She said 700. I thought that was fair price so giddy up and away we went.
It was all good in the room. Lots of DFK, a kneeling BBBJ in the shower, a strawberry lubed up BJ in bed, covered vaginal sex in multiple positions, and I / we ended in doggie. There was a lot more to it, but this is the short version. KKK. The bottom line was I had a good time! After we cleaned up and dressed, I gave her, her 700. We exchanged What'sup info and we said our bye bye's near the front desk.
I returned to the bar area and noticed that a few more girls had arrived and naturally I spotted a looker in the form of a very pretty, almost model quality black girl with a slender smoking hot body. She looked enticing, but I just wasn't up for a 2 fer this night, so I did not pursue things. Oh well, when will I learn the art of waiting. KKK. But maybe I will see this girl another time. I will be on the lookout for her.
Then I suddenly realized I was hungry, so I ordered a 6 piece sushi plate. That hit the spot! Then I walked around a little more just to see what was going on. The girl / customer ratio had not changed from earlier and the place was still half empty. It was now between 12:30 to 1 am, so mission accomplished as far as I was concerned, and it was time to go. I paid my tab which came to 500 and change. The bill covered the entry fee, two alcoholic beverages, two cokes, and that small sushi platter. Not cheap by any means: 1200 BR all in including the girl's fee. But not too bad either, all things considered!
I said good bye to Marcos, and walked outside. The boys outside greeted me with smiles, and I gave one of them my proof of payment card. Nobody hit me up for a tip! Since my current hotel was only 2 blocks away, and it was a balmy night, I decided to just walk it. I kept my eyes open, entered into a brisk direct pace, and there were no problemos.
All in all, it was a good night if not quite a great night. I will probably go back to Bomboa sometime during upcoming week, maybe Thursday night, but not before I check out Scandallo. Can you believe I have been in town 10 days or so and I have not been to Scandallo yet? Well, that is not to say I have not been having a great time with my 2 favorite Scandallo girls at my hotel. KKK. Life is good and it is great to be back in the city of women!
Many have asked or made comments on whether a certain place is "girl friendly". Maybe I can offer information to help. What I have found is that almost all places will easily allow you to bring a girl or have one visit you. The gotcha can be that they may want to get her ID and show her as registered. If you book the room for 2 and pay for 2 they just accept it. Being a cad like myself I may want two different ones in the same day. That may or may not be problematic. In one hotel after the first one was registered they did not even look at who was walking in holding my hand and the next one and I just waltzed to the elevator and up to my room.
In my 4 trips this year, one hotel complained that the girls had not been registered when I took them to the breakfast buffet. One the girl offered her ID before I knew what she was doing and there was no issue. And the rest have not been any problem.
Hope this helps alleviate some concerns.
...I heard that girls are mostly dressed (unlike FKKs where girls are almost naked). Would it be easy to check how tits look like before going into*a session?*After I show interest to a girl, while talking / drinking together before negotiation, are they okay showing their tits or are they reluctant?.I think in general you will have no problem fondling them to see if they are real or not at Scandallo. Some will take them out and show you. It really depends on the girls. But you have to be careful here. If you make a request and they fulfill it, you should be ready to take them, otherwise it could become ugly. I probably would start with by telling the girl that I don't like fake tits. This will give you a way out if they turn out to be fake. The girl likely would just tell you without you seeing them. If they are real, and you proceed to touch them to verify it, then you are making a commitment to take her. If they spent time with you and comply to all your requests, you should be prepare to take the girl, otherwise the girl has every reason to be mad at you.
At Scandallo, you don't need to buy drink for the girl if you just want to talk to her briefly. Many usually would not ask either. I would avoid buying drink at Casarao simply because the place is not setup for that.
Axel Heyst
12-12-23, 14:50
One time at Bomboa a chick asked me if I would buy her some ice cream. I agreed, and we sat there and had a nice conversation while she ate the ice cream and I enjoyed my drink. And that was the extent of it. Another time at Centaurus in Rio, a girl who I had just taken to the room asked me afterwards in the boate if I would buy her a sandwich. Although the session had been decent, I really wasn't into her. Didn't really care for her personality. So, my answer was "no". Buy your own damn sandwich with the money I just paid you!Yeah, I could see myself buying a cute girl an ice cream and then flirting with her. Why not? It is harmless, good fun. But a few of these girls really try to take advantage. KKK. One time I had just finished off with a pretty, mixed race, Japanese Brazilian gal in Scandallo, so I asked her if she wanted to join me in the patio bar for a nightcap. I ordered a gin tropical and did not specify the gin. The girl asked for a shot of Johnnie Walker Blue Label. The bar tender said he did not have a bottle of blue at this bar, but that he would go get one from the entertainment bar. At that point I interceded and said don't go to the trouble. Old No. 7 would be just fine. The girl did not say a thing.
Axel Heyst
12-12-23, 15:07
I never give a tip to anyone who asks for one and that includes chicas even if they have rendered good service. I went into this Chinese store in Boca chica, the DR and this security dude with a shot gun hit me up for a tip when I was departing, WTF??!!That is an amazing story. So, did you give the guy a tip? KKK.
Generally, I only tip hotel maids and those individuals who have gone way out of their way to provide great service to me. I do not tip my girls no matter how much I love them. But if I like a girl and I am hungry or thirsty after the main event, I will often times invite her to dinner or offer her a drink. Another crazy, although amazing performer that I was with one time in Scandallo responded to my dinner invitation with one of her own: she asked if I would buy her dinner now, so she could have it later (3 am) before she left the place. Pretty loco, no?
Generally, I only tip hotel maids and those individuals who have gone way out of their way to provide great service to me. I do not tip my girls no matter how much I love them. But if I like a girl and I am hungry or thirsty after the main event, I will often times invite her to dinner or offer her a drink. Another crazy, although amazing performer that I was with one time in Scandallo responded to my dinner invitation with one of her own: she asked if I would buy her dinner now, so she could have it later (3 am) before she left the place. Pretty loco, no?Where local custom (I normally don't tip if it's not customary) I like to tip taxi drivers, wait staff, barbers, and hotel maids. I also like to tip the ladies at the Rio termas who help keep the locker rooms clean, organized, and stocked with clean towels and supplies. They are always so, so appreciative and often give me a big hug! I do not tip people who have done nothing for me or the house. I remember one sanctimonious simp standing in the hallway at Centaurus in Rio who hit me up for a tip. For what? You haven't done shit for me. No! And yeah, that's loco about the girl wanting you to buy her dinner for later. If I offer to buy a girl dinner, it's so that we can spend a little extra time together. But obviously for her, it was about the food and not you. My answer? No! LOL! People man.
I used to have a pair of helpful garsons (sorry, char not accepted in text) in Cafe Photo I tipped. They would call me when certain girls arrived at the club. I always spent few minutes talking with them and pointing the girls in the bar or hearing their suggestions.
Of course my aim are stunners mostly. These two were simply killers doing festinhas (trios) and the garson, Mr. Lima, sent me a whatsapp when they arrived. That's when I picked the blonde. Unfortunately the brunette left with a client few minutes before I arrived and I guess she stopped working 'cause never saw her again.
The blonde was a frequent model and now she works as massagist in Germany. A classy f**k to remember.
Garsons have very valuable information.
Where local custom (I normally don't tip if it's not customary) I like to tip taxi drivers, wait staff, barbers, and hotel maids. I also like to tip the ladies at the Rio termas who
help keep the locker rooms clean, organized, and stocked with clean towels and supplies.
My random replies.
-People who begs for tips or for money should not be given anything. No matter who they are.
-if people ask me for drinks or any of that stuff, I just simply say I only buy drinks for people who goes out with me. Simple and easy and short and they get the message.
- yes we can get registered with Tim phone number without a cpf. It's option three and then option three again when you call on the phone to get it registered. They will transfer you to an English speaking customer rep.
-scandallo it's not what it used to be. A lot of the staff and girls who used to go there are no longer there. The vibe doesn't seem so friendly and relaxing anymore. Or maybe it's just me.
-I learned a hard lesson. Never ever trust those sites where girls don't show their face. 9 out of 10 it will be something worse or it will be a shock. Don't take that chance. It is not worth it because there are many who are transparent and won't deceive us.
-I have been using my phone and taking photos of my documents and showing that to the receptionist or whoever ask us for one. It always works so we don't have to carry any of those passports or driver's license around with us. Just our phones.
-don't use your foreign number on whatsapp. There are some out there who will charge more if they know you are a gringo. Just get a Brazilian number and use it for whatsapp.
RickyRick95
12-15-23, 23:44
Thank you all for the good vibes, glad you guys enjoyed my report. I hope I was able to convey with my report the the emotion a excitement I myself felt reading past reports of Scandallo and SP in general.
Quiet an experience scandallo, having past a couple of weeks since then, sometimes I think if it was a dream or if it really happened hahaha.
How much did she charge? I follow her on Twitter been wanting to get my hands on her. Got to love SP for the ability to fuck porn stars.Not cheap, R1000 for 1 HR but as mentioned in my report the session was all you could hope for in a session with a pornstar, very hardcore, and points extra for her being reallly nice and lovely.
But in my next trips, that if will definitely be having after my wonderful experience, I doubt I will be sessioning with web escorts and / or pornstars especially if I make quick 3-4 days trips, because although I had great sessions, specially the threesome I will be reporting later, I enjoyed more the scandallo experience being able to grab a few drinks with the hot girl of your choosing for and hour or two, getting to know her to see if the chemistry is great, was a more enjoyable experience at least in my opinion. Although web escorts can be, as mentioned, really great fucks, in a place like scandallo you can get more of a Ilussion of passion from girls that at least in my only experience didn't seem to be trully pros. In scandallo even though most of the girls were really hot, when you see them they do not give you a vibe screaming that they are pros sex workers, they can easily pass as hot girls you could find in high end bars and clubs. Also when you talk to them you do not get that pro vibe you get from web escorts or pornstars, meaning that they really seem to be there enjoying their time and for real having a great time and enjoying the session specially if you have great chemistry. Unlike escorts that seem more pro in their behaviors, they try for you to have a good time and try their best and their best is really great but dopes not feel as passionate as a scandallo girl. Obviously meeting a girl and start fucking her 5 minutes later does not give much chance to devolope a true chemistry that can translate to a more great or " more passionate" fuck.
Don't get me wrong pornstars and web escorts are nothing close to being mechanical or cold, nothing but far from it, but the nature of that kind of session, meeting them and instantly start fucking, limits how much "real passion" the session can have.
For that in my experience in my next trip I will be sticking to Scandallo and other similar boates like bomboa. I know is not everyones cup of tea, others may prefer the expeditness of a meet and start fucking situation like clinicas and web escorts and sometimes that is what you need specially when you are a local or on a business trip and don't have much time to be spending 4-6 hours for a fuck. But as a foreigner on vacations with total free time there is nothing better to enjoy your evening drinking, dancing, flirting and fucking sorrounded by a group of the most beatilful women in Brasil.
There is still pending my report on the threesome I had before I left SP. Stay tuned I will be posting it later.
I think in general you will have no problem fondling them to see if they are real or not at Scandallo. Some will take them out and show you.
Many have asked or made comments on whether a certain place is "girl friendly". Appreciate it.
Arrival.
I arrived at GRU mid-morning after a ten hour flight. Though I'm tired, the excitement you get when you step foot in a new land for the first time kicked in. I surmise the conquerors felt the same upon discovering the Americas. Upon arrival, I exited the plane and made my way to customs. I was expecting an insane interrogation for some odd reason. To the contrary, it was an absolute breeze; no paper work to fill out, a smile from the customs agent and a firm stamp on my passport. I've been checked and interrogated in both the DR, Colombia and even my homeland for no reason so this was a pleasant surprise. As I made my way through duty-free, excitement began to build as I saw some of the local talent begin to present itself. At this point, I still had 3 hours to kill before I could check into my place so I took a walk outside to scope out the seen. I met a cool cat outside who was killing time before his connecting flight to Rio and he gave me some insights on Sao Paulo and Rio as we talked for a few minutes. I love meeting friendly non-local travelers. Still having some time to kill, I sat down inside the terminal at 3 Coracoes Cafe and got myself my first Brazilian beer, Therezopolis Gold. Although rather mediocre in terms of proper brew, I am enjoying it as I write this introduction to my upcoming report.
The Palms.
As the long flight had left me weary, I still wanted to at least get a clinic visit in. Most of my intelligence was based off the work of our very own Bobby Axel Heyst. As The Palms is his favorite premium clinic, it would be my first visit. I showered, got ready and called an Uber. Upon arriving at The Palms, it was all down to business; I was given a tablet and shown the girls that were available. I chose an Afro-Brazilian girl who looked amazing in the pictures. I was escorted to a room where I was told she'd be down in a few minutes. I must say the the decor at The Palms is very nice; it reminded me of an upscale spa with large, spacious and perfectly lit rooms. Once she arrived I was greeted with a very warm hug and kiss. To keep things short, the session was amazing. All services rendered included GFE, BBBJ, DFK and she was also so very sweet. Her hygiene was also impeccable so I went DATY. I went back here a few days later to see if she was around for a session but she was not. The second time, I had a session with a beautiful blonde who although was a bit more mechanical performed amazingly. She was essentially a 9 and I was in heaven just staring in the mirror as we performed. It didn't get any better than this in terms of aesthetics. In terms of pricing, it is exactly as previously described, 400 to the house and 350 to the girl.
Sharon Premium.
I got to sleep early and woke up fully refreshed. Now, this trip was solely for mongering purposes so I did not do any tourist activities or visit any restaurants. Rather, I bought fresh pasta and tomato sauce, coconut water and protein shakes for my meals from the nearby supermarket. At around two I made my way over to Sharon Premium. The decor here is great and they have a fully stocked bar. I relaxed a bit while I enjoyed some whiskey. I was shown a tablet with all the available girls. They also have a TV screen that displays all the girls and their pictures. After selection, I was discreetly taken to a room. The room itself was very nice; spacious, clean with a hot tub for those who would want to partake in that. I felt the session itself was not as good as my visit to The Palms but we are comparing high-end apples to high-end apples here. The services rendered included light kissing and CBJ. After the session, I hung out at the upstairs bar for a while. I should have gone back to my place but I was just having a great time talking to the staff that was working there. At this point it was too late to go back to my place so I chose to go straight to Scandallo as it was very near and I wanted to avoid the 200 surcharge. In terms of pricing, it is 450 to the house.
Baronesas.
Although known for being a premium clinic, the decor and ambiance here is not on par with The Palms or Sharon Premium. With that said, the service rendered here was by far the best. I was given a tablet and made my selection. They are also stocked with drinks so I ordered a beer while I waited. The rooms themselves, while nice, are not up to par with the previous two clinics mentioned. When the girl arrived, I could tell she was young and she was of native decent. She reminded me of an ancient Amazonian princess and the session was outside this world. The services rendered included GFE, BBBJ, DFK as well as other world sex. I was left completely drained and fully satisfied. I wanted to return here for another session but time did not allow. In terms of pricing, it is 425 to the house and 400 to the girl. I ordered two beers to the room so the cost to the house reflects that.
Scandallo.
Ah, Scandallo and the infamous Scandallo nights. I left this section for last as I truly have mixed feelings about this place. First and foremost, it is everything everyone says it is; a truly high-end, luxury hotel like situation with fully dressed valets and staff ready to serve your needs. I quickly sobered up and fine-tuned my senses to ensure I was getting the full experience. I tapped into the knowledge of all the past avatars that had come before me and I began to recognize it all. At the reception, I showed my laminated passport for entry and was given a card and the introductory instructions on costs. As previous stated, it is 300 before 7 PM, all consumable and the rest is up to you. Once this was taken care of, I was pointed in the direction of the elevator; the infamous elevator. There was no one else with me so it felt very private like I was a celebrity.
Boom, the elevator opens and the infamous red couch appeared. Here is where things got murky. Now, the place itself is amazing but if one is not careful you can lose all your senses and make some of the biggest blunders of your trip. Everything costs money! Prior to my first visit here I was enjoying a very low cost, high satisfaction trip visiting clinics and just enjoying the simpler side of SP. As I entered there were girls sitting to my left on the couch. One thing to keep in mind for rookies, everyone, whether it's the staff or the girls can smell a foreigner from a mile away and as such you as essentially fresh meat in a pool full of sharks. I don't speak a lick of Porto so I couldn't make heads or tails of what people were saying to me. It is up to you to keep your senses; there is no Marine unit coming, you're on your own. I was escorted to the bar in the restaurant and ordered a beer. Scandallo is not a place where you are going to be able to relax and enjoy a drink; you will have girls coming up to you the minute you walk in. I am in complete utter disarray as beautiful women after beautiful women came up to me to try and persuade me to choose them. I got up from where I was sitting and began to briskly walk around the place as it was my only reprieve from the onslaught of solicitation. I eventually got tired and sat down and within 5 minutes another solicitor sits down next to me. I whipped out my translator and told her that I was waiting for someone but not before buying her a drink. Eventually, she left and within a few seconds another one is sitting right next to me. She was not the exact type I was looking for but was nice enough so I just gave in. She eventually called her blonde friend over who was gorgeous so I just went with the flow. In my rookie state, I began swiping. I mean I really began swiping completely unaware of the damage that would be had later in the evening. To cut a long story short, I took both of the girls upstairs for an absolute mediocre session. I never do more than one girl at a time simply because it's not my thing. I feel that it is both a distraction for me and for the girls as they end up talking to each other instead of focusing on the task at hand. I then go to pay all dues and realize I don't have enough cash so I have to use the CC. It is getting declined left and right and I end up having to call the service center to clear things up. I was so fed up that I went back downstairs for a revenge beer. This is when a sweet blonde came up to me and began conversation. I was just trying to hang out but the other brain began to kick in. I told her about my frustrations and we agreed on the terms of service beforehand as well as the 800 cost. We went upstairs and the session was amazing. The services rendered were GFE, BBBJ and DFK. I am exhausted at this point and head for the exit.
I got home at 4 AM and prior to hitting the pillow checked my CC charges. My mind was blown at how irresponsible I was and how long the trail of rookie mistakes I made that night was. I couldn't even tell you the cost breakdown of everything as it was all merged. I say this now as a lesson for rookies and for accountability.
I went there on a second night as well. This time armed with previous experience and I didn't make the same mistakes twice. However, once again the onslaught of solicitors eventually became too much that I settled on someone who was not exactly the type I was looking for. The session itself was mediocre and the services rendered included light kissing and CBJ. We also showered together and enjoyed some moderate conversation as she was fully fluent in English.
I did also dine here with all the ladies as well as partake in buying a bottle and sitting in the club section. Again, might have been a mistake but I had my internal settings set to 'When in Rome' mode.
In all honestly, I don't know about this place. On one hand, it is a sight to see; on the other hand I'm not sure it's worth the money. I was completely satisfied with the controlled, relaxing environments of the clinics prior to my visit here. YMMV but this is my opinion.
Final Thoughts.
This was my first time in SP and regardless of all the preparation, I made a ton of rookie mistakes. With that said I had an incredible time. I don't know if I'll ever be able to go again but if I do I know what I'll be doing. I enjoy the clinics scene and will most likely spend most of my time there with Scandallo mixed in for a night. Again, I want to emphasize that everyone there can smell a foreigner from a mile away so have your wits about you. That said, I never felt in any kind of danger at any point during the day or night. It is a beautiful city with terrible traffic and a week is simply not enough time to enjoy all the beautiful women there. Thank you to all for all the invaluable information as I could not have done this trip without it.
If anyone would like any more details on anything, please ask.
J.
The Critic
12-16-23, 06:06
I arrived at GRU mid-morning after a ten hour flight. Though I'm tired, the excitement you get when you step foot in a new land for the first time kicked in. I surmise the conquerors felt the same upon discovering the Americas. Good, detailed report. I especially liked the reviews on the High-End Clinicas. Looks like you had a good time. We all make Rookie mistakes sometime, learning from those mistakes makes a better Monger.
Thank you all for the good vibes, glad you guys enjoyed my report. I hope I was able to convey with my report the the emotion an excitement I myself felt reading past reports of Scandallo and SP in
For that in my experience in my next trip I will be sticking to Scandallo and other similar boates like bomboa. I know is not everyones cup of tea, others may prefer the expeditness of a meet and start fucking situation like clinicas and web escorts and sometimes that is what you need specially when you are a local or on a business trip and don't have much time to be spending 4-6 hours for a fuck. But as a foreigner on vacations with total free time there is nothing better to enjoy your evening drinking, dancing, flirting and fucking sorrounded by a group of the most beatilful women in Brasil.
There is still pending my report on the threesome I had before I left SP. Stay tuned I will be posting it later.My sentiments exactly. I much prefer the boates over the "pump and dump" places. I enjoy the interaction and need the chemistry to have a good time plus I need to be physically attracted to the girl before doing anything. I think the girls in Brazil just know how to creat the IOP that makes it so much fun.
Good, detailed report. I especially liked the reviews on the High-End Clinicas. Looks like you had a good time. We all make Rookie mistakes sometime, learning from those mistakes makes a better Monger.I indeed had a great time. As you say, you live and you learn. I hope to make the second trip even better if I am able to go!
J.
My sentiments exactly. I much prefer the boates over the "pump and dump" places. I enjoy the interaction and need the chemistry to have a good time plus I need to be physically attracted to the girl before doing anything. I think the girls in Brazil just know how to creat the IOP that makes it so much fun.In my personal opinion, I found the women at the clinics I visited to be on par with the women I saw at Scandallo. Keep in mind, I went on Wednesday and Thursday nights where there were 100-150 women at any given time.
Scandallo is truly a sight to behold and definitely should be on the list of destinations for anyone visiting SP for the first time. However, I simply found the clinic scene to be more controlled and relaxing; a low-cost, high-satisfaction scenario. I admit, someone more seasoned would not have made the same mistakes I did as I had complete sensory overload when I arrived at Scandallo. It is a fast paced, shark tank type of environment where anything can happen.
Brazilian IoP (Illusion of Passion) is absolutely real and I am glad to have experienced it. The flight back home was very depressing.
J.
Scandallo is truly a sight to behold and definitely should be on the list of destinations for anyone visiting SP for the first time. However, I simply found the clinic scene to be more controlled and relaxing; a low-cost, high-satisfaction scenario. I admit, someone more seasoned would not have made the same mistakes I did as I had complete sensory overload when I arrived at Scandallo. It is a fast paced, shark tank type of environment where anything can happen.I have never, ever experienced the kind of high-pressure environment that you described at Scandallo, and so few here have written of experiencing the same thing that I can't recall another similar report off the top of my head. In fact, I was very surprised by your description of the constant approaches and pressure to go to the room. I have never experienced any such "sharkiness" at Scandallo whatsoever. Either the girls have gotten desperate, or as you say, there was something about you that was flashing "prey" above your head. One thing that helps me is that I can easily pass for Brazilian, so no girl in there is going to see me and quickly assume they can try to play / pressure me. I'll give you that the clinicas are less expensive. No question about it. But other than that fact, if I had to choose, I'm taking the nightclubs over the clinicas. Fortunately, there is no need to choose. One can work the clinicas in the day league and hit the boates in the night league. As much as your time, energy, and budget will allow for. Play ball!
RickyRick95
12-16-23, 16:10
Arrival.
I arrived at GRU mid-morning after a ten hour flight. Though I'm tired, the excitement you get when you step foot in a new land for the first time kicked in. I surmise the conquerors felt the same upon discovering the Americas.
Final Thoughts.
This was my first time in SP and regardless of all the preparation, I made a ton of rookie mistakes. With that said I had an incredible time. I don't know if I'll ever be able to go again but if I do I know what I'll be doing. I enjoy the clinics scene and will most likely spend most of my time there with Scandallo mixed in for a night. Again, I want to emphasize that everyone there can smell a foreigner from a mile away so have your wits about you. That said, I never felt in any kind of danger at any point during the day or night. It is a beautiful city with terrible traffic and a week is simply not enough time to enjoy all the beautiful women there. Thank you to all for all the invaluable information as I could not have done this trip without it..Great report, I agree with you with some things regarding scandallo first of all it is in fact a money pit if you do not control yourself and start swiping left and right, it is easy to loose control and start swiping once you get excited and because of the card system you do not feel and realize how much you are spending until it is time to go and is too late. In my experience although I was determined not to spend more of the 300 R in consumable in the end I end up spending 100 R more, mainly on drinks for me and a couple for the girls as I spend there several hours, but I always had an idea of how much I was spending I went there with just the right amount of money I could not afford to loose control. I can only imagine how much you spend ordering bottles and having dinner with the girls, and as you mentioned that is a rookie mistake if your pockets are not deep. Not because is not worth it if I had deep pockets I would be definitely be ordering bottles and inviting dinner to the girls, surely I would have a great time but you can have equally great time just inviting a drink or 2 to a girl you fancy and not spending that much.
The other thing I agree is that the girls Coming on to you one after the other can be sometimes a little anoying because same as you, once you start talking they can be extremely charming and before you know it, if you are not experienced enough, you are going for the rooms even if the girl is not exactly the type you would like.
Fortunately in my case Both sessions I had they were great, I enjoyed more the session with the girl more of my type but I guess that was because I was more into her due to my tastes, but apart from that both were great performers each in their own way. I would guess that was because we had great chemistry during the interview process before we Went to the rooms, it helped me a lot that both girls spoke some Spanish and that I knew basic Portuguese we had no problem communicating, I would imagine communicating only through the translating App on your phone would limit greatly the experience of the interview process and that could lead to some unfortunate mediocre sessions.
In my case I did not feel that they could smell foreigners from miles away and be treated differently, but maybe that was just my case due to my nature of being a fellow south American maybe I could blend in with the crow and pass as a local, they would realize I was not a local just as I talk with my "Portuñol". But in other cases when you are from a country with a more different ethnicity say gringo type or Asian they could spot you more easily and worst if you don't speak a lick of the local language you may be more exposed to girls trying to charge you more or getting you to invite dinner.
But will all the considerations and with more experience I am sure your next visits will be more enjoyable, as the experience in general is quiet amazing.
Axel Heyst
12-17-23, 18:28
I have never, ever experienced the kind of high-pressure environment that you described at Scandallo, and so few here have written of experiencing the same thing that I can't recall another similar report off the top of my head. In fact, I was very surprised by your description of the constant approaches and pressure to go to the room. I have never experienced any such "sharkiness" at Scandallo whatsoever.Me too. Of course, a few Scandallo and bomboa girls will always make the first move and directly approach a man, but most girls will just give you a smile and try to make eye contact, preferring to wait for the gent to make the first move and break the ice with an "oi". I prefer this looser approach over Cafe Photo's where girls are not allowed to make the first move because I have never felt really bothered by a first move. It is easy to say no thanks, I am waiting for someone else. I just make sure to do it with a smile.
One time, however, this super-hot Italian looking Scandallo girl came up to me in the entertainment bar and made the 1st and 2nd move. I liked her from the first minute I saw her so, yada yada yada, a drink and an audition later, I asked her upstairs and the session was remarkable. Sadly, I never saw her in Scandallo again. Too bad.
The Palms.
As the long flight had left me weary, I still wanted to at least get a clinic visit in. Most of my intelligence was based off the work of our very own Bobby Axel Heyst. As The Palms is his favorite premium clinic, it would be my first visit. I showered, got ready and called an Uber. Upon arriving at The Palms, it was all down to business; I was given a tablet and shown the girls that were available. I chose an Afro-Brazilian girl who looked amazing in the pictures. I was escorted to a room where I was told she'd be down in a few minutes. I must say the decor at The Palms is very nice; it reminded me of an upscale spa with large, spacious and perfectly lit rooms. Once she arrived, I was greeted with a very warm hug and kiss. To keep things short, the session was amazing. All services rendered included GFE, BBBJ, DFK and she was also so very sweet. Her hygiene was also impeccable, so I went DATY. I went back here a few days later to see if she was around for a session but she was not. The second time, I had a session with a beautiful blonde who although was a bit more mechanical performed amazingly. She was essentially a 9 and I was in heaven just staring in the mirror as we performed. It didn't get any better than this in terms of aesthetics. In terms of pricing, it is exactly as previously described, 400 to the house and 350 to the girl...J, I think you are being too hard on yourself concerning your 1st night at Scandallo and the money you dropped. In a very short time, I think, the money spent that 1st night which included a mediocre 3 way will recede in importance in your mind, as your positive memory of that third girl and how you found her will grow. Hey, I have done 3 ways and 2-fers in Scandallo. I even did one girl 2 x in Scandallo in one night. That is how crazy I am sometimes, but I never did 3 girls in one night. So, way to go! And not to minimize the huge amount of money you dropped that night, it's only money. Ha Ha Ha. I have thrown away a ton more $$$ on really stupid shit like installing an AMP & speakers in my new SUV. It still pisses me off how much those installers / grifters charged me. KKK.
In my personal opinion, I found the women at the clinics I visited to be on par with the women I saw at Scandallo. Keep in mind, I went on Wednesday and Thursday nights where there were 100-150 women at any given time.
Scandallo is truly a sight to behold and definitely should be on the list of destinations for anyone visiting SP for the first time. However, I simply found the clinic scene to be more controlled and relaxing; a low-cost, high-satisfaction scenario. I admit, someone more seasoned would not have made the same mistakes I did as I had complete sensory overload when I arrived at Scandallo. It is a fast paced, shark tank type of environment where anything can happen.
Brazilian IOP (Illusion of Passion) is absolutely real and I am glad to have experienced it. The flight back home was very depressing. J.SP clinicas are very good. I am in SP as I write this and so far, this visit, a clinica girl is in the lead for the best new girl of the trip. Boy was she something in bed including a 69 CIM finish. But, I have to add that I think boate girls have more potential over the long run if you are into that sort of thing I. E. LT, modified ST's lasting 3 to 7 hours without a sleep over, and repeats.
BTW, repeats are how I was introduced by my favorite Scandallo girl to her GFs and one night the girls and I were drinking a bottle of malbec when both girls suggested we go upstairs together for a true menage a trois, one where everybody is doing everybody with a lot of IOP as you coined the phrase in the preceding paragraph. And that was a truly memorable night!
So rock on and follow your bliss wherever it leads you to like SP Clinicas, Boates or some other destination.
A. H.
J, I think you are being too hard on yourself concerning your 1st night at Scandallo and the money you dropped. In a very short time, I think, the money spent that 1st night which included a mediocre 3 way will recede in importance in your mind, as your positive memory of that third girl and how you found her will grow. Hey, I have done 3 ways and 2-fers in Scandallo. I even did one girl 2 x in Scandallo.
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Solid Advice A. H.
JS, You can ask the roving waiters working the tables to show you the total tab amount so far. They carry the swipe machine with them. Even in a drunken state, I want a sneak peek at the damage from buying myself 20-year chivas regal, buckets of ice and ordering gin tropicals or gin tonics for the duplos garotas doing threesomes.
I always get a bucket of ice cause the two Scandallo chicas with me for the duplo session, make a big deal to personally serve my drinks. Also I control the chica's drink order, it's gin tropical or related to gin cause I know the prices from seeing the waiters swipe the tablet. Nothing else can be ordered on my dime. Some Chicas buy their own fancy wine.
As part of the (IoP) illusion of passion, the garotas doing the threesome compete to refill my drinks. They sloppy suck on the ice cubes, while tongue-swapping with each other in a deep French lesbo kiss. It's a porno-style 4-play of their cum-swapping talent in the room. And we ain't going to the room until they do a public Lesbo deep kissing going first. I join in the three-way kissing after they wipe off that crazy-ass red lipstick.
Usually, I grab a table in the last row at the back bar across the bathrooms. Sometimes we will jump up from the tables to do a sexy three-way dance. My drunk clumsy ass will bang the table knocking over the glass drinks. It feels a hell of a lot better knowing they did not have any expensive drinks on my dime.
I am planning to visit Yankin or Tangara during the day or early evening.
If a session is good, I want to bring her to my hotel to stay overnight on that night or after a few days.
I think I read many posts on clinicas but could not see / remember if anyone did take a girl outside.
Pahllus Maximus
12-17-23, 22:44
Tochka's advice to have the girls do a public DFK and ice cube demo for snowballing before the room is an excellent audit / qualifying tip in the management of working girls.
It's a great idea to be totally explicit about what you want. Get good human made translations done and drawings. The girls have heard it all before and are rarely shocked unless you are really weird involving pain, violence, shit and piss. But telling them you want all of their three holes, blowing a load on their face or in their holes, having them suck your balls, rimming, blindfolds and toy handcuffs etc are totally expected and normal. Just be a civilized human, be personally hygienic, smile, playful and be nice to women and make sure you have their consent BEFORE doing anything. It will pay you back in triple in service quality that you play a part in.
You would be amazed how sexually explicit and graphic many women are talking to each other about how to get a man off. Working girls in plying their trade need to know how to arouse and how to get men off quickly. In Thailand many of the girls are very Houdini like flexible and reach for your balls while you fuck and kiss them. They learn these skills from the other working girls. BBBJCIM is basic for a real working girl.
I expect my duplas to lick each other out while I fuck them and alternate with one of them gently fondling my balls / butt or rimming me while impaling her friend or being sucked and various other combinations that is the ideal way in which men should be treated, and certainly what Turkish Sultans and elite men had in their harems. GFE, BBBJCIM and anal, a nice smile and being jolly are basic skills all women should possess if they are going to keep a man happy whether in the brothel or in civilian life.
Merry Christmas boys, have fun and live your best self.
Axel Heyst
12-18-23, 21:07
I just visited the Palms today and I enjoyed reunion sex with one of their gals that I met during my last trip in June. I can't figure it out exactly. The Palms girl I had last week gave better all-around service including a 69 CIM finish, but this little repeat girl really knows how to turn me on. Oh yeah, I know. 1st thing is I dig her tight little body. But the big turn on is she knows how to use her pussy muscle to hold my dick and then squeeze, release, and squeeze which is a very, very, pleasurable move. KKK. Damn, the little girl brought me to climax in 20 minutes!
Afterwards, I was chatting with Gabo, the manager, and he told me that the Palms was going to be closed for the holidays from Dec 23 until Jan 8. Not a big shocker. The girl I was just with had already told me she was going home to visit her parents over Christmas. So, I guess this is the last week things are going to be normal in SP until after the 1st week in 2024. No problem. I have Christmas and New Years already slated with my favorite SP gal. My only question is what is Bing Crosby going to do for Christmas?
Have a merry one.
A. H.
I am planning to visit Yankin or Tangara during the day or early evening.
If a session is good, I want to bring her to my hotel to stay overnight on that night or after a few days.
I think I read many posts on clinicas but could not see / remember if anyone did take a girl outside.The clinica can arrange the outcall if you would like. They charge a fee, I don't know how much it is now. I think I remember paying 600 reais back in 2018. They wanted her to finish her shift though.
If you get to know her well you might be able to exchange numbers and it is then up to her to do what she wants when she is not at the clinic.
The clinica can arrange the outcall if you would like. They charge a fee, I don't know how much it is now. I think I remember paying 600 reais back in 2018. They wanted her to finish her shift though.
If you get to know her well you might be able to exchange numbers and it is then up to her to do what she wants when she is not at the clinic.Tangara.
I learned my lesson to schedule an appointment in advance for my favorite two or three garotas in Tangara. I went very early when the wassap listed 25+ to 38+ garotas in the house. Damn I was excited with anticipation.
I arrived bright and early, buzzed the door open, walked into the courtyard, and discover what seemed to be FIDY 50 swinging dicks taking sitting on benches, standing on the rails, on the steps. Crap what's up with all these other mofo getting here early too! Must of been a holiday in SP. Dudes were grabbing all my favorites from the lineup.
Whoever I like the other dude is eyeing the same one. So had to move Fast!
Now I only go after scheduling two or three sessions in advance plus booking my favorite room in advance. Some of those rooms on the upper floor or basement don't get cleaned well.
Yup, In my experience found the garotas with me willing to share their wasaap numbers to hook up later or the next day on their own time. Or the garotas hanging in the bar are up to chat and share wassap while waiting for the good rooms.
Some garotas after warming up to me, and a few drinks at the bar will share their own private pornos videos on their phones. Dayum freaky! To see a hot sexy looking cutie doing a three and four-way gangbang.
One Tangara chica has an apartment in Moema near Bourbon Ibirapuera hotel That was a blast, a convenient to hook up in her place.
I did do a double take when my super fine, goddamn sexy, hot in the bed porno garota changed into her street clothes without much makeup. The illusion of passion was nearly gone seeing her normal Street clothes at the end of her shift.
Your Mileage May Vary YMMV.
I am planning to visit Yankin or Tangara during the day or early evening.
If a session is good, I want to bring her to my hotel to stay overnight on that night or after a few days.
I think I read many posts on clinicas but could not see / remember if anyone did take a girl outside.If your hotel is on the right side of town, a garota will be especially delighted in paying you a visit on her way to the clinica just before her shift begins.
You described my nightmare scenario. I hate it with a passion when I walk into a venue and find it packed with a bunch of dudes. It's that awful New Life Medellin vibe. Brazilians love to hang around and schmooze with the employees, reception desk and managers included. A saving grace of Sao Paulo is there are always many other places to visit.
Tangara.
I learned my lesson to schedule an appointment in advance for my favorite two or three garotas in Tangara. I went very early when the wassap listed 25+ to 38+ garotas in the house. Damn I was excited with anticipation.
I arrived bright and early, buzzed the door open, walked into the courtyard, and discover what seemed to be FIDY 50 swinging dicks taking sitting on benches, standing on the rails, on the steps. Crap what's up with all these other mofo getting here early too! Must of been a holiday in SP. Dudes were grabbing all my favorites from the lineup.
Whoever I like the other dude is eyeing the same one. So had to move Fast!
Now I only go after scheduling two or three sessions in advance plus booking my favorite room in advance. Some of those rooms on the upper floor or basement don't get cleaned well..
Axel Heyst
12-19-23, 17:06
If your hotel is on the right side of town, a garota will be especially delighted in paying you a visit on her way to the clinica just before her shift begins.This suggestion makes sense to me. I have not employed this strategy in SP yet, but it used to work all the time with a certain favorite BKK oily massage girl I was on good terms with back pre-Covid.
I do not like the idea of inviting a clinica girl over to my place after her shift however. The girl has to be tired out after a day at the clinica and I prefer my girls fresh and full of energy.
And the 3rd possibility; asking a clinica girl over on her day off is a 50/50 proposition IMHO. Some girls are up for it and others are not. If she asks for a large cash contribution, way above what she gets for a session in the clinica, she is obviously not that into it and I would drop the invitation.
Merry White Christmas from the Southern Hemisphere.
Yeah. If you think about it it's like a gang bang.
You described my nightmare scenario. I hate it with a passion when I walk into a venue and find it packed with a bunch of dudes. It's that awful New Life Medellin vibe. Brazilians love to hang around and schmooze with the employees, reception desk and managers included. A saving grace of Sao Paulo is there are always many other places to visit..
The clinica can arrange the outcall if you would like.
Tangara. I learned my lesson to schedule an appointment in advance for my favorite two or three garotas in Tangara.
If your hotel is on the right side of town, a garota will be especially delighted in paying you a visit on her way to the clinica just before her shift begins.
This suggestion makes sense to me.Thanks for your thoughts.
Does anyone know how it is like in KILT?
According to a guy who has described his positive experience in this club years ago in his blog, it was as nice as other termas*in terms of the quality of girls or vibes, and he liked sex shows played there.
I wonder how it is now.
OMG, I never thought of it that way. I think you are right.
Yeah. If you think about it it's like a gang bang..
Tangara.
I learned my lesson to schedule an appointment in advance for my favorite two or three garotas in Tangara. I went very early when the wassap listed 25+ to 38+ garotas in the house. Damn I was excited with anticipation.Is it possible to check the list of girls and their photos?
If asking by whatsapp, I guess they will only let me know the names of available girls that day.
But even for "chat via whatsapp", I cannot connect. Whatsapp says "the phone number isn't on whatsapp".
How can I do? Connecting to Yankin's whatsapp worked at least.
I have never, ever experienced the kind of high-pressure environment that you described at Scandallo, and so few here have written of experiencing the same thing that I can't recall another similar report off the top of my head.
Play ball!Perhaps you are right, TC. It might have just been a combination of it being my first time there and paranoia. I don't know if I could pass as Brazilian but it might have been I could not blend in due to my not knowing the local language.
Either way, as you said, play ball!
J.
Great report, I agree with you with some things regarding scandallo first of all it is in fact a money pit if you do not control yourself and start swiping left and right, it is easy to loose control and start swiping once you get excited and because of the card system you do not feel and realize how much you are spending until it is time to go and is too late. In my experience although I was determined not to spend more of the 300 R in consumable in the end I end up spending 100 R more, mainly on drinks for me and a couple for the girls as I spend there several hours, but I always had an idea of how much I was spending I went there with just the right amount of money I could not afford to loose control. I can only imagine how much you spend ordering bottles and having dinner with the girls, and as you mentioned that is a rookie mistake if your pockets are not deep. Not because is not worth it if I had deep pockets I would be definitely be ordering bottles and inviting dinner to the girls, surely I would have a great time but you can have equally great time just inviting a drink or 2 to a girl you fancy and not spending that much.
The other thing I agree is that the girls Coming on to you one after the other can be sometimes a little anoying because same as you, once you start talking they can be extremely charming and before you know it, if you are not experienced enough, you are going for the rooms even if the girl is not exactly the type you would like.
Fortunately in my case Both sessions I had they were great, I enjoyed more the session with the girl more of my type but I guess that was because I was more into her due to my tastes, but apart from that both were great performers each in their own way. I would guess that was because we had great chemistry during the interview process before we Went to the rooms, it helped me a lot that both girls spoke some Spanish and that I knew basic Portuguese we had no problem communicating, I would imagine communicating only through the translating App on your phone would limit greatly the experience of the interview process and that could lead to some unfortunate mediocre sessions.
In my case I did not feel that they could smell foreigners from miles away and be treated differently, but maybe that was just my case due to my nature of being a fellow south American maybe I could blend in with the crow and pass as a local, they would realize I was not a local just as I talk with my "Portuol". But in other cases when you are from a country with a more different ethnicity say gringo type or Asian they could spot you more easily and worst if you don't speak a lick of the local language you may be more exposed to girls trying to charge you more or getting you to invite dinner.
But will all the considerations and with more experience I am sure your next visits will be more enjoyable, as the experience in general is quiet amazing.Indeed RR95. Thanks for your feedback and contribution to the forum with your report as well. I continue to take notes and as you said, I am determined to make the next visit even better!
J.
J, I think you are being too hard on yourself concerning your 1st night at Scandallo and the money you dropped. In a very short time, I think, the money spent that 1st night which included a mediocre 3 way will recede in importance in your mind, as your positive memory of that third girl and how you found her will grow. Hey, I have done 3 ways and 2-fers in Scandallo. I even did one girl 2 x in Scandallo in one night. That is how crazy I am sometimes, but I never did 3 girls in one night. So, way to go! And not to minimize the huge amount of money you dropped that night, it's only money. Ha Ha Ha. I have thrown away a ton more $$$ on really stupid shit like installing an AMP & speakers in my new SUV. It still pisses me off how much those installers / grifters charged me. KKK.
SP clinicas are very good. I am in SP as I write this and so far, this visit, a clinica girl is in the lead for the best new girl of the trip. Boy was she something in bed including a 69 CIM finish. But, I have to add that I think boate girls have more potential over the long run if you are into that sort of thing I. E. LT, modified ST's lasting 3 to 7 hours without a sleep over, and repeats.
BTW, repeats are how I was introduced by my favorite Scandallo girl to her GFs and one night the girls and I were drinking a bottle of malbec when both girls suggested we go upstairs together for a true menage a trois, one where everybody is doing everybody with a lot of IOP as you coined the phrase in the preceding paragraph. And that was a truly memorable night!
So rock on and follow your bliss wherever it leads you to like SP Clinicas, Boates or some other destination.
A. H.AH,
Firstly, thank you for your kind words of encouragement. It is indeed true that after a couple of weeks now, the bad memories are beginning to fade while I continue to day-dream and night-dream about the good ones. I find myself wanting to return sooner rather than later but luckily the larger brain deters me from making any rash decisions.
Secondly, that threesome you describe with full IoP is the stuff of dreams. I hope to experience this type of bliss one day and will be searching for it on my next visit.
Lastly, thank you for all the knowledge you have bestowed upon this thread as my itinerary was loosely based on all the feedback. Your past reports were spot on and they saved me much time and energy. I definitely owe you a few of those expensive drinks if our paths ever cross in SP.
J.
J, I think you are being too hard on yourself concerning your 1st night at Scandallo and the money you dropped. In a very short time, I think, the money spent that 1st night which included a mediocre 3 way will recede in importance in your mind, as your positive memory of that third girl and how you found her will grow. Hey, I have done 3 ways and 2-fers in Scandallo. I even did one girl 2 x in Scandallo.
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Solid Advice A. H.
JS, You can ask the roving waiters working the tables to show you the total tab amount so far. They carry the swipe machine with them. Even in a drunken state, I want a sneak peek at the damage from buying myself 20-year chivas regal, buckets of ice and ordering gin tropicals or gin tonics for the duplos garotas doing threesomes.
I always get a bucket of ice cause the two Scandallo chicas with me for the duplo session, make a big deal to personally serve my drinks. Also I control the chica's drink order, it's gin tropical or related to gin cause I know the prices from seeing the waiters swipe the tablet. Nothing else can be ordered on my dime. Some Chicas buy their own fancy wine.
As part of the (IoP) illusion of passion, the garotas doing the threesome compete to refill my drinks. They sloppy suck on the ice cubes, while tongue-swapping with each other in a deep French lesbo kiss. It's a porno-style 4-play of their cum-swapping talent in the room. And we ain't going to the room until they do a public Lesbo deep kissing going first. I join in the three-way kissing after they wipe off that crazy-ass red lipstick.
Usually, I grab a table in the last row at the back bar across the bathrooms. Sometimes we will jump up from the tables to do a sexy three-way dance. My drunk clumsy ass will bang the table knocking over the glass drinks. It feels a hell of a lot better knowing they did not have any expensive drinks on my dime.T,
I will definitely be cognizant of the tab the way in which you describe the next time around. I as unpack my experience, I realize I was not patient and simply didn't stand my ground and dictate the terms I wanted before hand. Haha, I'm laughing as I picture what you describe unfolding on one of the back tables near the bathrooms; the stuff of dreams. I look forward to returning.
J.
Is it possible to check the list of girls and their photos?
If asking by whatsapp, I guess they will only let me know the names of available girls that day.
But even for "chat via whatsapp", I cannot connect. Whatsapp says "the phone number isn't on whatsapp".
How can I do? Connecting to Yankin's whatsapp worked at least.The wassap phone numbers are posted on gp guia net.
Under.
Acomphantes Sao Paulo.
CLnicas de Massagens SP.
The latest numbers of a dozen clinicas around Moema are posted or look for new numbers pinned. There are two or three posts with the working wassap number.
In SP, wake up, grab my phone, start checking the clinicas wassap lineup of photos faces, names, four hands specials to plan my day for Tangara, Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, Spa Moah, Chanel, Yankin, Lushness, Red visits and many more.
My routine is to be knee-deep in a drunken porno, fantasy threesomes from 11 am to 7 pm each day, then uber over to Scandallo from evening to 3 am. Repeat every day for trip.
For Tangara and Prime clinicas I like to know the time garotas in foto lineup is supposed to show up or if she is already in the house. There is no guarantee she will show up for the day, stuff happens.
In my experience, Enjoy Clinca has one of the most flaky schedules for appointments. Enjoy 's lineup schedule for the day is flaky or bait and switch. The garotas show up damn late in the afternoon, definitely not on time, if at all. Sometimes the garota prefer to stay in the other sister clinica Miruna.
Enjoy Spa will post a deep lineup of photos. I Uber over there in 5 min, going from front entrance of Miruna to Enjoy's wooden door. I arrive to find only one or two or sometimes no garotas available in the place. A disappointment. The okder front desk gal is cool though. I know her from the years She worked at 57 Friends. Occasionally Enjoy will cover the cost of a taxi back to Miruna when nobody shows up at Enjoy. Your experience may vary.
ABBBORA clinica and 57 House Friend don't post team lineups or send wassap photos of the garotas I still ask for the presentation fotos anyway and she never sends. In person only. Sigh.
Abbobora has a deep lineup of beautiful sun tanned, sun drenched SEXY Brancas. Dayum! And real pain-in-the-ass chica at the front desk, others already mentioned their dealings with her.
I did meet up with a amazing 21-year-old blond Branca outside of Abbobora. It was a slow day, she is there only two days every two or three weeks. She rides the bus back to her city which is a few hours away from SP.
Sometimes I ask the once-a-week or weekend-only garotas if they met their $$ number. We chatted, she didn't meet her. $$ goal that day. So we met up before her bus trip at my apart hotel Tsue Flats, a 5 min walk from Abbobora. What superb experience it was illusion of passion (IoP) meets illusion of money (IoM).
Later she traveled back to SP a few weeks later to hook up again.
YMMV, I still like scheduling appointments and making the presentation rounds in Moema clinicas daytime.
The wassap phone numbers are posted on gp guia net.
Under.
Acomphantes Sao Paulo.
CLnicas de Massagens SP.
The latest numbers of a dozen clinicas around Moema are posted or look for new numbers pinned. There are two or three posts with the working wassap number.
In SP, wake up, grab my phone, start checking the clinicas wassap lineup of photos faces, names, four hands specials to plan my day for Tangara, Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, Spa Moah, Chanel, Yankin, Lushness, Red visits and many more.
My routine is to be knee-deep in a drunken porno, fantasy threesomes from 11 am to 7 pm each day, then uber over to Scandallo from evening to 3 am. Repeat every day for trip.
For Tangara and Prime clinicas I like to know the time garotas in foto lineup is supposed to show up or if she is already in the house. There is no guarantee she will show up for the day, stuff happens.
In my experience, Enjoy Clinca has one of the most flaky schedules for appointments. Enjoy 's lineup schedule for the day is flaky or bait and switch. The garotas show up damn late in the afternoon, definitely not on time, if at all. Sometimes the garota prefer to stay in the other sister clinica Miruna.
Enjoy Spa will post a deep lineup of photos. I Uber over there in 5 min, going from front entrance of Miruna to Enjoy's wooden door. I arrive to find only one or two or sometimes no garotas available in the place. A disappointment. The okder front desk gal is cool though. I know her from the years She worked at 57 Friends. Occasionally Enjoy will cover the cost of a taxi back to Miruna when nobody shows up at Enjoy. Your experience may vary.
ABBBORA clinica and 57 House Friend don't post team lineups or send wassap photos of the garotas I still ask for the presentation fotos anyway and she never sends. In person only. Sigh.
Abbobora has a deep lineup of beautiful sun tanned, sun drenched SEXY Brancas. Dayum! And real pain-in-the-ass chica at the front desk, others already mentioned their dealings with her.
I did meet up with a amazing 21-year-old blond Branca outside of Abbobora. It was a slow day, she is there only two days every two or three weeks. She rides the bus back to her city which is a few hours away from SP.
Sometimes I ask the once-a-week or weekend-only garotas if they met their $$ number. We chatted, she didn't meet her. $$ goal that day. So we met up before her bus trip at my apart hotel Tsue Flats, a 5 min walk from Abbobora. What superb experience it was illusion of passion (IoP) meets illusion of money (IoM).
Later she traveled back to SP a few weeks later to hook up again.
YMMV, I still like scheduling appointments and making the presentation rounds in Moema clinicas daytime.That's a hell of a demanding schedule. How do you keep your stamina up? I also had planned to do two clinics prior to Scandallo in the evening but never made it past one. I also opted to consume only coconut water, protein shakes and some pasta over other types of dishes to avoid lethargy during the day.
J.
SamaRiding
12-23-23, 00:59
The wassap phone numbers are posted on gp guia net.
ABBBORA clinica and 57 House Friend don't post team lineups or send wassap photos of the garotas I still ask for the presentation fotos anyway and she never sends. In person only. Sigh.
.57 does post the WhatsApp status. Abbobora sadly no. Also remember to add the Brazil phone code +55 if using a US phone.
Above Average
12-23-23, 20:42
After seeing a lot of positive feedback on these forums I decided to give seekingarragements.com (SA) a try, and so far I've found the experience pretty underwhelming. I got some good photos of myself and a decent profile (and I've received compliments on both my photos and profile) and a premium subscription, and I get quite a bit of attention but I find it very difficult to secure any sort of meetings.
Most of the girls I'm interested in just stop responding to my messages eventually, and many don't reply in the first place. Most of the attention I'm getting is from women that I wouldn't want to sleep with, even for free.
I get the impression that all of the girls on that website want large sums of money, but none of them want to ask for it. I don't bring up money early in the conversation because I first want to figure out if the girl is worth my time but I feel like this is where I am losing a lot of girls.
I've been searching girls in Sao Paulo and Rio De Janeiro for the past month (so Holidays shouldn't be an issue). Have you guys experienced similar frustrations with SA?
What other websites would you guys recommend for meeting girls (both pro and non-pro) in Brazil? Out of all the dating apps like Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, what ones are the most promising?
57 does post the WhatsApp status. Abbobora sadly no. Also remember to add the Brazil phone code +55 if using a US phone.
The wassap phone numbers are posted on gp guia net.
The latest numbers of a dozen clinicas around Moema are posted or look for new numbers pinned. There are two or three posts with the working wassap number.
In SP, wake up, grab my phone, start checking the clinicas wassap lineup of photos faces, names, four hands specials to plan my day for Tangara, Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, Spa Moah, Chanel, Yankin, Lushness, Red visits and many more.
For Tangara and Prime clinicas I like to know the time garotas in foto lineup is supposed to show up or if she is already in the house. There is no guarantee she will show up for the day, stuff happens.
In my experience, Enjoy Clinca has one of the most flaky schedules for appointments. Enjoy 's lineup schedule for the day is flaky or bait and switch. The garotas show up damn late in the afternoon, definitely not on time, if at all. Sometimes the garota prefer to stay in the other sister clinica Miruna.
Enjoy Spa will post a deep lineup of photos.
ABBBORA clinica and 57 House Friend don't post team lineups or send wassap photos of the garotas I still ask for the presentation fotos anyway and she never sends. In person only. Sigh.
Abbobora has a deep lineup of beautiful sun tanned, sun drenched SEXY Brancas. Dayum! And real pain-in-the-ass chica at the front desk, others already mentioned their dealings with her.Thanks for letting me know. For Tangara, their second number in gp guia worked with Whatsapp.
I do not know how things work in clinicas. Clinica receptions can explain in English or I need to use google translator?
My further concern is being ripped off, while prices are described in automatic replies via Whatsapp.
A few posts that I remember here reported 190 including BBBJ or CIM in Tangara or Yankin and 330 including CBJ in Abbobora.
Let's say I want to include BBBJ and CIM. Prices can be way above the range of 200-300 depending on girls, which means I may need to negotiate with another girl for a cheaper price for that service?
Also, I can see that Prime, Miruna, Enjoy and Abbobora are in close proximity. Is it safe to walk among them if I do not like a lineup in the first place and want to check the next?
I feel like seeing in person instead of making an appoinment since I do not have good experiences in booking girls based on photos.
Hey all,
I'm flying into SP on Tuesday and I have a long layover. I've tried to read through the forum and it seems it's going to be tough to find a place that's open. Does anyone know of a place that will be open on Tuesday?
Thanks!
Steve 9696
12-24-23, 01:38
After seeing a lot of positive feedback on these forums I decided to give seekingarragements.com (SA) a try, and so far I've found the experience pretty underwhelming. I got some good photos of myself and a decent profile (and I've received compliments on both my photos and profile) and a premium subscription, and I get quite a bit of attention but I find it very difficult to secure any sort of meetings.
Most of the girls I'm interested in just stop responding to my messages eventually, and many don't reply in the first place. Most of the attention I'm getting is from women that I wouldn't want to sleep with, even for free.
I get the impression that all of the girls on that website want large sums of money, but none of them want to ask for it. I don't bring up money early in the conversation because I first want to figure out if the girl is worth my time but I feel like this is where I am losing a lot of girls.
I've been searching girls in Sao Paulo and Rio De Janeiro for the past month (so Holidays shouldn't be an issue). Have you guys experienced similar frustrations with SA?
What other websites would you guys recommend for meeting girls (both pro and non-pro) in Brazil? Out of all the dating apps like Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, what ones are the most promising?It's not surprising your disappointed in Seeking if you haven't landed a date yet. What you are finding is that it's a shit ton of work. And what you hve not had yet is the benefit of that shit ton of work. I describe it as a massive pile of bullshit. And somewhere in that pile is a diamond. But you have to slog thru all of the shit ti find it. As you hve not found it yet, all you see is the shit. 😋.
I wrote s short guide on Seeking I'the be happy to send (I've dated over 50 girls on Seeking). Just hmu. But let me try to summarize a few key thoughts.
It's a numbers game. From a percentages POV prob less than 30% of girls will even respond to your message. And maybe 10% will be worth chatting further with. And then you get down to 1-3 who are worth taking on a date (bedding) and you get down to specifics and go consumate the deal. So your experience is not surprising. A few tips:
Try to mention something specific from their profile in your opener. Stay away from generic openers they've seen a zillion times.
Drive the conversation with questions. Never ever end an exchange without another question or she will just fade out.
Take things over to WhatsApp within a couple days of contact. Once you are on what's things stay more connected because the girls are not on SA 247.
It sounds like you already know not to treat them like full on pros. I like it to an online bar. Like you are picking up girls with your charm and charisma. But via text.
Never ever do the "coffee meetup". Always go for dinner and or drinks and take it to the room first night. That is when the momentum exists.
So why even bother, when you have Boates etc in So Paulo. And I generally agree with that. Seeking is best where pussy is hard to find. Like USA. That said Seekingbis just a completely different experience. It's like a real date and real feelings can get involved if you let them. Plus Sundays generally suck in South America so that's a great Seeking day. And finally you can develop really quality repeat relationships. I can fly to any of 5 or so cities and be guaranteed a quality date with a girl I adore and quality sex at the end. I have girls I've been seeing since I started Seeking in 2019.
Two final thoughts.
One. The diamonds do exist. Even in Brazil. I had a legit 9. 5 Seeking girl in Rio. She was either 400 or 500 R and we had a full 3-4 hour date. 9. 5 looks. 9. 5 personality. 9. 5 in bed. A true diamond. Right there in Rio. I had been browsing and chatting for a couple weeks and snagged her at 10 PM Sat night for a Sunday date. See point 2.
Sometimes going last minute totally works. My OPENER is "Going out for a nice dinner and drinks tonight. Join me?" This sounds so aggressive. Fuck we haven't even said Hello, yet. But this has worked for me at least five times sometimes with spectacular results.
So it's a ton of work but worth it IMO. HMU if you need any further help Or join in the chat w the rest of the Seeking enthusiasts here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements
After seeing a lot of positive feedback on these forums I decided to give seekingarragements.com (SA) a try, and so far I've found the experience pretty underwhelming. I got some good photos of myself and a decent profile (and I've received compliments on both my photos and profile) and a premium subscription, and I get quite a bit of attention but I find it very difficult to secure any sort of meetings.
Most of the girls I'm interested in just stop responding to my messages eventually, and many don't reply in the first place. Most of the attention I'm getting is from women that I wouldn't want to sleep with, even for free.
I get the impression that all of the girls on that website want large sums of money, but none of them want to ask for it. I don't bring up money early in the conversation because I first want to figure out if the girl is worth my time but I feel like this is where I am losing a lot of girls.
I've been searching girls in Sao Paulo and Rio De Janeiro for the past month (so Holidays shouldn't be an issue). Have you guys experienced similar frustrations with SA?
What other websites would you guys recommend for meeting girls (both pro and non-pro) in Brazil? Out of all the dating apps like Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, what ones are the most promising?I have good experiences with Seeking both SP and Rio. Absolute baddies rate them 9/10, girls with huge instagram followings. I don't go over age 26 that's about my max age. They bring up money for a date / overnight / after I get their whatsapp and get to chatting. I have pics of the baddies I plan to meetup with. I speak no porto and just use translator.
Its your portfolio most likely you think you may have great pics / profile but your results are saying otherwise. The avg asking $ Reais I get is no less than 1k for a date/sex and goes up from there but I counter with 500k then negotiate from there , hits and misses the usual.
My further concern is being ripped off, .... which means I may need to negotiate with another girl for a cheaper price for that service?
Is it safe to walk among them if I do not like a lineup in the first place and want to check the next?IMO, I would think about these things differently. This is Brazil, don't think of upselling for what you want. This isn't a FKK where some girls will want to upcharge you for touching them or Colombia where they want you to drop USD on them. At clinicas, the price is the price for the session (and you pay the desk for the most part). Expect to use translation, only a few staff here and there speak English. The common saying is that in Brazil, your chances of GFE are more likely. CBJ is a new plague it seems (IE Casarao).
To spell it out, IE Prime:
Go to the desk, say Hello, and ask for a presentation. Girls will come out and introduce themselves, try to just remember the one you want (you generally don't have the opportunity to check your list of things you want). Choose, get sent to your room and wash up / wait. If you don't like any one, you can wait around, but different places will have different levels of patience for this. Have a good time, get dressed and pay and leave (or wait for round 2). It's not that complicated.
Define what's a dealbreaker (to yourself) and just say that it won't work for you (unless the girl somehow exceeds your threshold for throwing $ at them). If you need to see people and have a conversation of what you like and what they are willing to do, clinicas don't always offer the best environment for this, other than places like Yankin (in the bar area) or Boates, etc. At boates / clubs, you can definitely get your tabbed escalated if you don't control the situation as everyone is a freelancer.
I felt safe in Sao Paulo (this is always relative), but you have to watch out for people taking advantage of you being glued to your phone on the street.
SamaRiding
12-25-23, 00:41
My further concern is being ripped off, while prices are described in automatic replies via Whatsapp.
Also, I can see that Prime, Miruna, Enjoy and Abbobora are in close proximity. Is it safe to walk among them if I do not like a lineup in the first place and want to check the next?
.The price is fixed in the clinicas and the house watches the clock and you usually pay the house when you leave. In general it's GFE with BBBJ. I never mention extra payment for extra services like CIM or anal or even BFFS. It is either the girl wants to do it or not and she wouldn't expect extra payment. I don't quiz the girls on their services during the presentation, there isn't time and I'm not great in Portuguese. The locals don't either. I think 10% of my sessions end up being bad and honestly I don't worry about it. The price per session is so low, I just pick another girl up. There was a girl at prime I thought was really hot but our session sucked. I would pick her on every SP trip once to see if she improved, she never did.
In moema, 57 and MOAH and Carinas and Red are also within walking distance.
Gabbarsing
12-25-23, 00:45
Everything (at least most clinicas and boates) is open as usual on Tuesday.
Hey all,
I'm flying into SP on Tuesday and I have a long layover. I've tried to read through the forum and it seems it's going to be tough to find a place that's open. Does anyone know of a place that will be open on Tuesday?
Thanks!
Yeah I noticed that the ones who are in their mid-20's and older are not very friendly. Pretty hard-headed and tough. I think this is universal and not just brazilians.
I have good experiences with Seeking both SP and Rio. Absolute baddies rate them 9/10, girls with huge instagram followings. I don't go over age 26 that's about my max age. They bring up money for a date / overnight / after I get their whatsapp and get to chatting. I have pics of the baddies I plan to meetup with. I speak no porto and just use translator.
Its your portfolio most likely you think you may have great pics / profile but your results are saying otherwise. The avg asking $ Reais I get is no less than 1k for a date/sex and goes up from there but I counter with 500k then negotiate from there , hits and misses the usual.
Gp-guia lists which girls are willing to do what in it's reviews. It also indicates whether the girl expects an extra fee. I've found it to be very reliable information.
The price is fixed in the clinicas and the house watches the clock and you usually pay the house when you leave. In general it's GFE with BBBJ. I never mention extra payment for extra services like CIM or anal or even BFFS. It is either the girl wants to do it or not and she wouldn't expect extra payment. I don't quiz the girls on their services during the presentation, there isn't time and I'm not great in Portuguese. The locals don't either. I think 10% of my sessions end up being bad and honestly I don't worry about it. The price per session is so low, I just pick another girl up. There was a girl at prime I thought was really hot but our session sucked. I would pick her on every SP trip once to see if she improved, she never did.
In moema, 57 and MOAH and Carinas and Red are also within walking distance.
Gp-Guia lists which girls are willing to do what in it's reviews. It also indicates whether the girl expects an extra fee. I've found it to be very reliable information.As useful (and entertaining) as GP-Guia is, it's not always definitive. What I mean by that is that I love to go there and read reviews about girls I sessioned with to see how somebody else's experience compared to mine. Usually if I thought the girl was hot and a good provider, the other reviewer did as well. But, what I noticed is a lot of the guys saying a girl doesn't do anal when I know good and damn well I had been all up in her A-hole! LOL! So, the moral to the story is don't limit yourself based on what somebody else on GP-Guia said a girl will or will not do.
Because I'm here to give witness that I butt fucked a number of girls that several GP-Guia reviewers said the girl told them they didn't do anal. I guess you just have to catch them at the right time on the right day or something. Or maybe earlier in their short careers before the thrill to them from getting cornholed in a termas is gone LOL! Don't get me wrong. I think GP-Guia is hella useful, but don't take it as the gospel truth. If you want something (anal) then ask for it, and you just might receive. I know I did from a lot of those fine young ladies who supposedly "don't do anal". YMMV.
Same thing with BBBJ or covered, it all depends on if people are clean or not. Anal or not, depends on the size. Gpuia is accurate up to an extent. Need lots of reviews and sample size to be more accurate. It is useful in that if 9 out of 10 reviews are saying that this person is a fraud then most likely they're a fraud.
As useful (and entertaining) as GP-Guia is, it's not always definitive. What I mean by that is that I love to go there and read reviews about girls I sessioned with to see how somebody else's experience compared to mine. Usually if I thought the girl was hot and a good provider, the other reviewer did as well. But, what I noticed is a lot of the guys saying a girl doesn't do anal when I know good and damn well I had been all up in her A-hole! LOL! So, the moral to the story is don't limit yourself based on what somebody else on GP-Guia said a girl will or will not do.
Because I'm here to give witness that I butt fucked a number of girls that several GP-Guia reviewers said the girl told them they didn't do anal. I guess you just have to catch them at the right time on the right day or something. Or maybe earlier in their short careers before the thrill to them from getting cornholed in a termas is gone LOL! Don't get me wrong. I think GP-Guia is hella useful, but don't take it as the gospel truth. If you want something (anal) then ask for it, and you just might receive. I know I did from a lot of those fine young ladies who supposedly "don't do anal". YMMV..
Hello Gentlemen, we have liberated one more walking tour from Sao Paulo. This time the short trip from Dorado Shopping area to Vila Conceiao where the new Bomboa club is located since the pandemics. The previous location of the club was on the Capote Valente Street.
Enjoy!
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Anyone knows what Scandallo might look like tomorrow Saturday night given end of year and all? I'd like go wash off the 2023 stress over there.
By the way, been here a couple of days and have sampled quite a few talent. The standout so far is a big booty young lady going by Indyara at Lux Spa on Loefgren. Perfect mix of skill and GFE sensuality.
By the way II, Have you had pussy so good you feel like you can fially solve world peace?
Happy mongering my friends!
Jimmy Boy 99
12-30-23, 05:50
Gp-guia lists which girls are willing to do what in it's reviews. It also indicates whether the girl expects an extra fee. I've found it to be very reliable information.In gp-guia.net reviews, at the top it shows what the girl did in that particular session, not what she will or won't do. So if the top says no BBBJ, DFK, or anal, it could mean that the client did not ask for it, or she refused that specific customer that service, not that she doesn't do it or would not do it with another customer. Also, there is no section at the top where it says what the anal surcharge was (that is in gparena.net).
If you want specific things during a session, it is always better to ask to talk to the girl to see if she does it rather than hope she does. In clinicas it is perfectly fine to ask to speak to a girl you like to ask her if she does what you want to avoid disappointment in the room. I do this all the time and have never been refused the opportunity to talk to the girl (if they did, I would just walk out). I show her on my cell phone what I want in the session (in Portuguese) and she decides if she will do them. I have on occasion been told by the girl that she doesn't do something I want and I just thank her and choose another girl to speak to or leave for another clinica.
Yes, this is the way it works. It explains why you will see conflicting information about the same girl in separate reviews. When in doubt you can do as you stated or if you want to confirm before going to the venue you can call or whatsapp and ask the management.
In gp-guia.net reviews, at the top it shows what the girl did in that particular session, not what she will or won't do. So if the top says no BBBJ, DFK, or anal, it could mean that the client did not ask for it, or she refused that specific customer that service, not that she doesn't do it or would not do it with another customer. Also, there is no section at the top where it says what the anal surcharge was (that is in gparena.net).
If you want specific things during a session, it is always better to ask to talk to the girl to see if she does it rather than hope she does. In clinicas it is perfectly fine to ask to speak to a girl you like to ask her if she does what you want to avoid disappointment in the room. I do this all the time and have never been refused the opportunity to talk to the girl (if they did, I would just walk out). I show her on my cell phone what I want in the session (in Portuguese) and she decides if she will do them. I have on occasion been told by the girl that she doesn't do something I want and I just thank her and choose another girl to speak to or leave for another clinica.
For what it's worth, I was there in February 23, first time, and it was fairly easy to negotiate 600 for one of the better looking girls, easy an 8+. One girl asked 1500 and I laughed at her, and offered 600 and then she walked away. But I was there in a group of brazilenos, and later same girl who turned me down kept telling me that she regretted it and wanted me to take her number. So I swear the second those girls don't identify you as a US gringo everything changes. You simply have to take a seat and take your time, let the night move along and let them come and go. What makes them insist on 1000+ with us Americans is because it works. Until it doesn't ie hold the line putos. I am heading back to SP tonight and just saying, I'll never pay 1000 or more, have trouble even justifying 800. I've got the money, just can't bring myself to do it. Even if you pay 800 let's say when you add in the room and entrance, you are looking at spending about $280+ for the evening there.
Wow, I've gone through some posts on the last few pages and I see the cost of having some fun in Scandallo is really getting out of line. R1000 for a CBJ? R300 for the room? So it went 230- 270- 300 merely in 7 months? Like come on, I suspect you can have a night in a 3-star hotel for that price. Luckily during my first and only visit in that boate I was able to score a good looking morena with great (not big) ass and even better fake tits for R500 (she easily accepted it after saying she usually asks R1000, I don't think that was because I'm in late twenties and tall, my guess is rather that she could either accept it or else she would have a small chance of getting another client within the next hour as IIRC there were not many men in there at that time). I got to tell you that the BBBJ performed by her wasn't too good but she rode it very well and that's a little bit more important for me I think. So the total damage for restaurant + girl + room was 1100 BRL that night and for me personally is somewhere on the edge of being acceptable to pay for one evening of fun. I guess unless prices somehow decrease it'll only make sense for me to return there when I'm a millionaire, at least denominated in BRL.
Also I wonder. In the northeast it's very doable to score a pro from a club or a bar without paying her if you two get along well. Didn't happen to me but a friend who's living there has done it many times. Has any of you ever managed. Or know somebody who has. To do the same in SP with a boate / clinica girl? I would guess that most of them are from other parts of the country and are 100% focused on the money while for example in Fortaleza they'd mix their professional life with private life and thus be more willing to have some pure fun without materialistic intentions.
My New Years Date came down with a stomach issue and could not come to me. So at 7:00 on New Years Eve I have my choice, go to Casarao or call someone to me. I looked through Photoaccompanhantes site and sent out 4 feelers. I received two replys. One for a Japanese lady and one for European looking one. Japanese wanted 800 for an hour and I would need to go to her. The other asked for $R350. I decided that was less of a risk. She came and we had an enjoyable visit with lots of kissing etc. This morning she texted me that she really enjoyed meeting and being with me last night.
I love having choices!
.... This morning she texted me that she really enjoyed meeting and being with me last night....That is one of the nice things about Brazilian women.
So where most of the Boates closed on New Years even then? I got in on the first and they were all closed Jan 1.
My New Years Date came down with a stomach issue and could not come to me. So at 7:00 on New Years Eve I have my choice, go to Casarao or call someone to me. I looked through Photoaccompanhantes site and sent out 4 feelers. I received two replys. One for a Japanese lady and one for European looking one. Japanese wanted 800 for an hour and I would need to go to her. The other asked for $R350. I decided that was less of a risk. She came and we had an enjoyable visit with lots of kissing etc. This morning she texted me that she really enjoyed meeting and being with me last night.
I love having choices!
A couple of years ago was the last time I was in Sao Paulo for New Years. Basically the whole city was at Guaruja and other beaches. Places gradually reopened the weekend after New Year's Day. Maybe it's different now post pandemic.
So where most of the Boates closed on New Years even then? I got in on the first and they were all closed Jan 1.
Ah OK. I am here now, I arrived Jan 1st and everything opened either the 2nd or today the 3rd including all of the clinicas. Maybe half were open yesterday, Jan 2. It was amazing that none of these bars or businesses cared to tell anyone what there holiday hours would be either on their websites or whatsapp. I guess the locals just know the deal. Now we know, cheers.
A couple of years ago was the last time I was in Sao Paulo for New Years. Basically the whole city was at Guaruja and other beaches. Places gradually reopened the weekend after New Year's Day. Maybe it's different now post pandemic.
I'm going through the forum, lots of detail but I'm hoping to get some direction.
Background: Early 30's, brown gringo, have done west Eur, USA / Can, Mex / Col. Experienced in the hobby but I don't speak any Porto.
I'd like to keep it simple as possible. Maybe gringo friendly clubs at night & any convenient day spas / agencies. Looking for those top Instagram fit, pretty types. Tourist attractions not a priority.
1) SP over Rio? Scandallo alone sounds like it could be plenty. Easy to get Scandallo girls during the day? Other equivalent clubs?
2) Reqs where to stay that are girl friendly, safe, convenient to food? I'd rather stay somewhere nice for 3-4 days than a cheaper spot for 5-6.
SP is in my top 3 cities worldwide. I now spend a couple of months a year here. About half of the girls I meet are civilians (I'm probably a bit younger than most) and the other half aren't. SP really shines for regular civilians, I'm fluent in Portuguese which definitely helps.
For P4 P, I generally stick to Scandallo and have probably been there 100+ times over the last 2 years. I've found the other places underwhelming: Cafe Photo and Bomboa are just smaller worse versions. Casarao, while being mentioned often on this thread, is nothing to rave home about. Every city in South America has a Casarao like bar. While I consider Scandallo to probably be the best adult establishment worldwide now, its novelty has obviously died down for me and I'll also say I've noticed a bit of a decline in talent in the last year.
A note on Scandallo: I would say about 95% of its clientele are wealthier locals. Gringos represent a very small portion of its clients made up from the odd tourist or from this very board. In regards to price, I know 2 of the people who run the place and a couple of working girls who have become friends. I also have quite a few Brazilian friends who are regulars at the establishment, and know what they are paying and it's the same as me. In SP, there isn't much of a Gringo pricing mentality going on either which is refreshing. Pricing at Scandallo unofficially works by girls' tier: tier 1 has a pricing, tier 2 is lower and tier 3 is the lowest. You will not get a tier 1 girl for tier 3 pricing, since tier 1 girls will almost always be picked up, so if it isn't you, another client will accept.
The highest-end working girls I found in the city are via a whatsapp contact that works by referral that I was invited to (what some refer to as a pink book I think). Kinda funny, but I saw a few familiar faces in there that had no idea were P4 P. Prices were about 2-3 X Scandallo and girls were on average 1 notch above in looks. They had no issues providing all social media with most girls having pretty big followings. My experiences on there were great and reliable, but at this price point you're competing with top talent in 1st world countries.
Food: SP is a great city for a foodie. Aside from the known places which are mentioned a lot, here are a few hidden gems:
- Tan Tan: cool mixology bar for a date with Asian cuisine.
- Kan Suke: favorite omakase in the city. Prices recently jumped and the place looks like a dump or the back of a NYC deli but who cares when the sushi is this good.
- Sushiguen: casual Japanese cuisine, had the biggest shrimp tempura I have ever seen.
- Baru Marisqueria: seafood with a Brazilian twist.
- Casa Rios and Tordesilhas for upscale Brazilian food.
- Picchi: solid Italian place in the city.
I am in SP until Sunday and then a few weeks in Rio. If I had to pick between the two, Rio is better. But SP is nice because SP has some of the most beautiful women of Brazil. You want model quality but miraculously you feel like they are in love with you also? SP is unbeatable. But flights are cheap between Rio and SP, so you can try both.
Scandallo and Bomboa are really amazing but it's a lot of money. If you don't mind spending $300-500 US a day on food and ass, these are top in the world. Scandallo is open for lunch but makes no sense to go there during the day IMO; b / c fewer girls and high prices. Plus the clinicas during the day are amazing in SP and like 1/4 the price. Most people hit Scandallo only once or twice in a week because it's a lot of food and drink (min consumption) and the girls are charging like double. Best place to stay in either place is an Airbnb, in SP I stay in Moema because there are lots of clinicas walking distance. Rio is a much more fun place to be because of the beach and the electric vibe Rio brings.
I don't think brown or any shade in between is an important factor in Brazil. People here never know what I am, I speak 3 languages which throws them off. But they don't care. Have fun.
I'm going through the forum, lots of detail but I'm hoping to get some direction.
Background: Early 30's, brown gringo, have done west Eur, USA / Can, Mex / Col. Experienced in the hobby but I don't speak any Porto.
I'd like to keep it simple as possible. Maybe gringo friendly clubs at night & any convenient day spas / agencies. Looking for those top Instagram fit, pretty types. Tourist attractions not a priority.
1) SP over Rio? Scandallo alone sounds like it could be plenty. Easy to get Scandallo girls during the day? Other equivalent clubs?
2) Reqs where to stay that are girl friendly, safe, convenient to food? I'd rather stay somewhere nice for 3-4 days than a cheaper spot for 5-6.
A note on Scandallo: In regards to price, I know 2 of the people who run the place and a couple of working girls who have become friends. I also have quite a few Brazilian friends who are regulars at the establishment, and know what they are paying and it's the same as me.What are you paying then, if we might know?
The highest-end working girls I found in the city are via a whatsapp contact that works by referral that I was invited to (what some refer to as a pink book I think). Prices were about 2-3 X Scandallo and girls were on average 1 notch above in looks. So assuming you are paying around $1000 R / HR for tier 1 at Scandallo, you are paying $2-3000 R / HR ($400-600 USD / hour) for these Whatsapp girls?
"whatsapp contact by referral" = PIMP.
What are you paying then, if we might know?
So assuming you are paying around $1000 R / HR for tier 1 at Scandallo, you are paying $2-3000 R / HR ($400-600 USD / hour) for these Whatsapp girls?
The price is fixed in the clinicas and the house watches the clock and you usually pay the house when you leave.
IMO, I would think about these things differently. This is Brazil, don't think of upselling for what you want. Thanks for your answers and here is my report.
I visited Yankin on Wednesday afternoon after receiving a Whatsapp reply that there are around 10 girls. The kind gentleman (likely the owner?) at the front desk could speak good English. Available girls were quickly presented one*by one while it was hard to remember who was who at the end (maybe because there was no real hottie for me to choose). The gentleman let me see the girls again by going to the girls' lounge with me. When I asked about extra services, the gentleman kindly answered that BBBJ are generally included as a part of classic*sex, while others, one of which was*CIM, may be done after reaching an agreement*or negotiating with the girl. Girls' appearances were a*bit disappointing but I picked one. Unfortunately, this girl denied BBBJ. Then I realized that I should have confirmed this (maybe in front*of the front desk gentleman) before going into the room. Just plain sex at 150/30 min and I did not feel like*extending. I paid for lessons.
I visited Tangara on*Sunday afternoon. Via WhatsApp they*sent*me photos of*around 6 or 7 girls that are*working. When I reached in front of this place, I was a bit confused. I could not find a house number or a parking lot indicating the place is in business. Just pushed a door bell next to a blue door after checking the google map street view. Only two girls were presented to me when I was on a seat. And I had to wait for 15 minutes to see the girl that I was interested in based on Whatsapp photos. Since more guys came in, I was a bit nervous and looked over the*girls' lounge. Actually the girl was there so I showed my interest. *This girl's attitude was as good as her appearance. 150/30 min including BBBJ.
I would visit Tangara again when I have a chance. Next time I would check the girls' lounge often. It seems that the staff does not always show available girls to me as soon as they are available.
Gigi Buffon
01-05-24, 06:04
As reported by Veja, Brasilian government defers date for visa requirements for US citizens, Canadians and Australians until April 10,2024.
Gigi Buffon
01-05-24, 06:38
SP is in my top 3 cities worldwide. I now spend a couple of months a year here. About half of the girls I meet are civilians (I'm probably a bit younger than most) and the other half aren't. SP really shines for regular civilians, I'm fluent in Portuguese which definitely helps.
For P4 P, I generally stick to Scandallo and have probably been there 100+ times over the last 2 years. I've found the other places underwhelming: Cafe Photo and Bomboa are just smaller worse versions. Casarao, while being mentioned often on this thread, is nothing to rave home about. Every city in South America has a Casarao like bar. While I consider Scandallo to probably be the best adult establishment worldwide now, its novelty has obviously died down for me and I'll also say I've noticed a bit of a decline in talent in the last year.
A note on Scandallo: I would say about 95% of its clientele are wealthier locals. Gringos represent a very small portion of its clients made up from the odd tourist or from this very board. In regards to price, I know 2 of the people who run the place and a couple of working girls who have become friends. I also have quite a few Brazilian friends who are regulars at the establishment, and know what they are paying and it's the same as me. In SP, there isn't much of a Gringo pricing mentality going on either which is refreshing. Pricing at Scandallo unofficially works by girls' tier: tier 1 has a pricing, tier 2 is lower and tier 3 is the lowest. You will not get a tier 1 girl for tier 3 pricing, since tier 1 girls will almost always be picked up, so if it isn't you, another client will accept.
The highest-end working girls I found in the city are via a whatsapp contact that works by referral that I was invited to (what some refer to as a pink book I think). Kinda funny, but I saw a few familiar faces in there that had no idea were P4 P. Prices were about 2-3 X Scandallo and girls were on average 1 notch above in looks. They had no issues providing all social media with most girls having pretty big followings. My experiences on there were great and reliable, but at this price point you're competing with top talent in 1st world countries.
Food: SP is a great city for a foodie. Aside from the known places which are mentioned a lot, here are a few hidden gems:
- Tan Tan: cool mixology bar for a date with Asian cuisine.
- Kan Suke: favorite omakase in the city. Prices recently jumped and the place looks like a dump or the back of a NYC deli but who cares when the sushi is this good.
- Sushiguen: casual Japanese cuisine, had the biggest shrimp tempura I have ever seen.
- Baru Marisqueria: seafood with a Brazilian twist.
- Casa Rios and Tordesilhas for upscale Brazilian food.
- Picchi: solid Italian place in the city.Picchi is very good, while Tordesilhas is an excellent choice if you want to try dishes from different regions from Brasil, both located nearby (Jardins). Another great place is Sal Gastronomia located in Higienópolis.
Axel Heyst
01-05-24, 14:45
One night I went to Bahamas Club in SP where I met an attractive 19 year old spinner. I bought her a drink and she passed the audition although I felt at the time that she had swooshed down her beer a little too fast. Anyway, we went upstairs and fairly soon thereafter we got into a little disagreement when she refused to give me a BBBJ in the room. I pulled out my phone and tried to reason with her using my T-Mobile 15 GB 30 Day International Pass (15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling), but Google translate refused to cooperate. It was really a funny scene although at the time I did not think so. HA HA. I mean there I was lying in bed naked while a nude girl spread eagled over my right thigh was massaging my dick as I tried, without success, to get Google Translate to do its job. It didn't and the Bahamas Wifi wasn't working to well in the room either, so after 10 minutes in this situation ie her giving me a seductive hand job while I was fumbling around trying to get my phone to work properly, I gave up, called off the session against the girl's pleas not to do so, and I marched downstairs. The manager, who I knew from my last trip to SP, was cool and he did not charge me for the room. He also told me that BBBJ's were technically up to the girl and the customer to a agree upon, but that I was under no obligation to give the girl anything for the aborted session. I gave her 200 BR anyway instead of our agreed upon 600 BR because I felt it was the right thing to do. I also think the experience brought her down a peg in the eyes of all the other Bahama girls and may have taught her a valuable lesson, but who knows. Read on:
News of our event spread rapidly among the girls in the club and soon afterwards, a buxom blond with ginormous tits sat down next to me. She knew all about the previous incident and told me Vanessa was new on the job. But if I took "Buxom" upstairs, she would blow me until I came in her mouth. I declined her invitation, but a little later, I hooked up with a different blond with a pretty face and natural tits. We went upstairs where we DFK'd for 10 minutes or so which was then followed up with a kneeling bareback deep throat BJ and what I like to call a labia massage where a girl positions herself so that my dick runs parallel to her private parts, no penetration, but plenty of stimulation for both of us. This girl performed the BBBJ & the labia massage while standing and on the bed. Later we had covered vaginal sex in 3 positions which ran into overtime. There was no rush to finish and we took our time showering and lastly exchanging Whatsup info. It was a damn good session! 600 BR.
Later I went outside to the veranda where I lit up a Cohiba and chatted with 3 girls who were hanging out there. One of the 3 girls was a GF of my original girl. They all wanted to go upstairs with me for round #2. 5. KKK. One girl asked if I liked weed. I said I did, but that I was on the wagon, IE no weed for me. KKK. Eventually the girls went inside while I continued to enjoy my Cohiba, but the weed girl came back outside and asked if I wanted to go upstairs with her. I said perhaps another time.
Before I left the club, I saw the first girl sulking around in the bar area. Everyone knew what had happened between us. I gave her a knowing smile and shrugged my shoulders visually saying I am sorry, sort of, for what happened, but it could not have been avoided since you decided not to pleasure me properly. In the final analysis, however, I put most of the blame on the phone connection and regular T-Mobil service for our miscommunication and our aborted session. I still refuse to negotiate for BBBJ and this was the only time on this latest trip when I did not get one.
Lastly, I even had trouble connecting with Uber after I left the club and I had to reenter the club to pick up the WiFi and connect with Uber. It was not until I was back at my hotel when I noticed a T-Mobile text message sent earlier that evening informing me that my 30 day International Pass had expired and if I wanted to add another 30 days all I had to do was click on the link provided, which I immediately did. End of story. T-Mobile International Pass is a necessity in Brazil if you want to use T-mobile service on your cell phone in SP.
I get 5 G with my pixel in Brazil using T-Mobile. The cell towers were vivo and claro. As my report clearly shows, I use T-Mobile service, but I find it woefully inadequate on its own and thus it is an absolute necessity to buy the T-Mobil International Pass if you want to use your cell phone with T-Mobile outside of local WIFI hookups in SP. It ain't cheap, but it works very well. Here are the rates:
1) International 1 Day Pass: 512 MB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 24 hours, for $5/ day.
2) 5 GB International Pass: 5 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 10 days, for $35.
3) 15 GB International Pass: 15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 30 days, for $50.
Check out Clinica Zeus a couple of doors down the hill from Yankin at Dr. Jose de Querios Aranha #214. The half hour is are $100. The selection is smaller and a half step or so below Yankin but it will do in a pinch.
Thanks for your answers and here is my report.
I visited Yankin on Wednesday afternoon after receiving a Whatsapp reply that there are around 10 girls. The kind gentleman (likely the owner?) at the front desk could speak good English. Available girls were quickly presented one*by one while it was hard to remember who was who at the end (maybe because there was no real hottie for me to choose). The gentleman let me see the girls again by going to the girls' lounge with me. When I asked about extra services, the gentleman kindly answered that BBBJ are generally included as a part of classic*sex, while others, one of which was*CIM, may be done after reaching an agreement*or negotiating with the girl. Girls' appearances were a*bit disappointing but I picked one. Unfortunately, this girl denied BBBJ. Then I realized that I should have confirmed this (maybe in front*of the front desk gentleman) before going into the room. Just plain sex at 150/30 min and I did not feel like*extending. I paid for lessons.
I visited Tangara on*Sunday afternoon. Via WhatsApp they*sent*me photos of*around 6 or 7 girls that are*working. When I reached in front of this place, I was a bit confused. I could not find a house number or a parking lot indicating the place is in business. Just pushed a door bell next to a blue door after checking the google map street view. Only two girls were presented to me when I was on a seat. And I had to wait for 15 minutes to see the girl that I was interested in based on Whatsapp photos. Since more guys came in, I was a bit nervous and looked over the*girls' lounge. Actually the girl was there so I showed my interest. *This girl's attitude was as good as her appearance. 150/30 min including BBBJ.
I would visit Tangara again when I have a chance. Next time I would check the girls' lounge often. It seems that the staff does not always show available girls to me as soon as they are available.
Axel Heyst
01-05-24, 15:21
I don't know how I forgot to mention this in my original report, but while I was lying on my back in bed buck naked, fumbling around with Google Translate, and Sheila was sitting on my thigh giving me a rather interesting hand job while refusing to blow me without a condom; she did offer a BBBJ for an additional 100 BR. This was the straw and that led me to abort the session along with my growing frustration with the fucking phone. Later after I had spoken with the manager and everything was cool, I took Sheila aside and tried to talk to her. Bahamas WiFi was working ok in the bar area. Her line of reasoning was that BBBJ's were dangerous, and a lot of Brazilian men had health issues, but I did not take up her point. I merely told her if she was so set against BBBJ's then why did she try to upsell me for 100 BR. She had no response to that, and I was under no obligation to do anything further, but I gave her 200 BR anyway for our 10 minutes together and because I am a nice guy. Then I just walked away and moved on to better things.
Before I left the club, I saw the first girl sulking around in the bar area. Everyone knew what had happened between us. I gave her a knowing smile and shrugged my shoulders visually saying I am sorry, sort of, for what happened, but it could not have been avoided since you decided not to pleasure me properly. In the final analysis, however, I put most of the blame on the phone connection and regular T-Mobile service for our miscommunication and our aborted session. I still refuse to negotiate for BBBJ and this was the only time on this latest trip when I did not get one.
Lastly, I even had trouble connecting with Uber after I left the club and I had to reenter the club to pick up the WiFi and connect with Uber. It was not until I was back at my hotel when I noticed a T-Mobile text message sent earlier that evening informing me that my 30 day International Pass had expired and if I wanted to add another 30 days all I had to do was click on the link provided, which I immediately did. End of story. T-Mobile International Pass is a necessity in Brazil if you want to use T-mobile service on your cell phone in SP.First of all, T-Mobile has nothing to do with what happened. All you gots to do is know some elementary Portuguese, like "sexo oral sem camishina". And second, you don't have to have any kind of pass if you have the right kind of plan. I have an international plan. My phone and internet works when I step off of the plane without a bunch of outrageous roaming charges. If you don't do even just a little bit of preparation and planning in advance, then you get what you get. Which might be a CBJ LOL!
I'm not as frequent a visitor as you seem to be. When I am there, I use T-Mobile with no international pass. I have a US based plan (US $50/ month) that includes unlimited text and wifi calling along with unlimited data that is capped at 256 K speed worldwide. It connects to Vivo in Sao Paulo and I've noticed it shows the 5 G. I don't use google translate so that is maybe why I don't find a need to add on to the plan. I do notice it is somewhat slower than what I'm used to when I am using Claro in Colombia or T-Mobile 5 G in the US, but it works plenty fast enough with uber, whatsapp, and casual web browsing.
Tough luck about the girl trying to give you a are $600 hand job. I might not have paid her are $200, maybe half that much. It's worth it to maintain good relations with the management and the other girls. I hope she was much more attractive than the girls in the clinicas who we get for are $150 to are $200. Speaking of clinicas, I always laugh when I see the cellophane wrapped disposable hair combs and mouthwash because it's the Brazilian custom that justifies higher price points at clinicas like Abbobora and others, along with nice girls in some cases.
One night I went to Bahamas Club in SP where I met an attractive 19 year old spinner. I bought her a drink and she passed the audition although I felt at the time that she had swooshed down her beer a little too fast. Anyway, we went upstairs and fairly soon thereafter we got into a little disagreement when she refused to give me a BBBJ in the room. I pulled out my phone and tried to reason with her using my T-Mobile 15 GB 30 Day International Pass (15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling), but Google translate refused to cooperate. It was really a funny scene although at the time I did not think so. HA HA. I mean there I was lying in bed naked while a nude girl spread eagled over my right thigh was massaging my dick as I tried, without success, to get Google Translate to do its job. It didn't and the Bahamas Wifi wasn't working to well in the room either, so after 10 minutes in this situation ie her giving me a seductive hand job while I was fumbling around trying to get my phone to work properly, I gave up, called off the session against the girl's pleas not to do so, and I marched downstairs. The manager, who I knew from my last trip to SP, was cool and he did not charge me for the room. He also told me that BBBJ's were technically up to the girl and the customer to a agree upon, but that I was under no obligation to give the girl anything for the aborted session. I gave her 200 BR anyway instead of our agreed upon 600 BR because I felt it was the right thing to do. I also think the experience brought her down a peg in the eyes of all the other Bahama girls and may have taught her a valuable lesson, but who knows. Read on:
News of our event spread rapidly among the girls in the club and soon afterwards, a buxom blond with ginormous tits sat down next to me. She knew all about the previous incident and told me Vanessa was new on the job. But if I took "Buxom" upstairs, she would blow me until I came in her mouth. I declined her invitation, but a little later, I hooked up with a different blond with a pretty face and natural tits. We went upstairs where we DFK'd for 10 minutes or so which was then followed up with a kneeling bareback deep throat BJ and what I like to call a labia massage where a girl positions herself so that my dick runs parallel to her private parts, no penetration, but plenty of stimulation for both of us. This girl performed the BBBJ & the labia massage while standing and on the bed. Later we had covered vaginal sex in 3 positions which ran into overtime. There was no rush to finish and we took our time showering and lastly exchanging Whatsup info. It was a damn good session! 600 BR.
Later I went outside to the veranda where I lit up a Cohiba and chatted with 3 girls who were hanging out there. One of the 3 girls was a GF of my original girl. They all wanted to go upstairs with me for round #2. 5. KKK. One girl asked if I liked weed. I said I did, but that I was on the wagon, IE no weed for me. KKK. Eventually the girls went inside while I continued to enjoy my Cohiba, but the weed girl came back outside and asked if I wanted to go upstairs with her. I said perhaps another time.
Before I left the club, I saw the first girl sulking around in the bar area. Everyone knew what had happened between us. I gave her a knowing smile and shrugged my shoulders visually saying I am sorry, sort of, for what happened, but it could not have been avoided since you decided not to pleasure me properly. In the final analysis, however, I put most of the blame on the phone connection and regular T-Mobil service for our miscommunication and our aborted session. I still refuse to negotiate for BBBJ and this was the only time on this latest trip when I did not get one.
Lastly, I even had trouble connecting with Uber after I left the club and I had to reenter the club to pick up the WiFi and connect with Uber. It was not until I was back at my hotel when I noticed a T-Mobile text message sent earlier that evening informing me that my 30 day International Pass had expired and if I wanted to add another 30 days all I had to do was click on the link provided, which I immediately did. End of story. T-Mobile International Pass is a necessity in Brazil if you want to use T-mobile service on your cell phone in SP.
As my report clearly shows, I use T-Mobile service, but I find it woefully inadequate on its own and thus it is an absolute necessity to buy the T-Mobil International Pass if you want to use your cell phone with T-Mobile outside of local WIFI hookups in SP. It ain't cheap, but it works very well. Here are the rates:
1) International 1 Day Pass: 512 MB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 24 hours, for $5/ day.
2) 5 GB International Pass: 5 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 10 days, for $35.
3) 15 GB International Pass: 15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 30 days, for $50.
UniversalX
01-05-24, 17:57
I pulled out my phone and tried to reason with her using my T-Mobile 15 GB 30 Day International Pass (15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling), but Google translate refused to cooperate. It was really a funny scene although at the time I did not think so. HA HA. I mean there I was lying in bed naked while a nude girl spread eagled over my right thigh was massaging my dick as I tried, without success, to get Google Translate to do its job. It didn't and the Bahamas Wifi wasn't working to well in the room either, so after 10 minutes in this situation ie her giving me a seductive hand job while I was fumbling around trying to get my phone to work properly,
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Lastly, I even had trouble connecting with Uber after I left the club and I had to reenter the club to pick up the WiFi and connect with Uber. It was not until I was back at my hotel when I noticed a T-Mobile text message sent earlier that evening informing me that my 30 day International Pass had expired and if I wanted to add another 30 days all I had to do was click on the link provided, which I immediately did. End of story. T-Mobile International Pass is a necessity in Brazil if you want to use T-mobile service on your cell phone in SP.
As my report clearly shows, I use T-Mobile service, but I find it woefully inadequate on its own and thus it is an absolute necessity to buy the T-Mobil International Pass if you want to use your cell phone with T-Mobile outside of local WIFI hookups in SP. It ain't cheap, but it works very well. Here are the rates:
1) International 1 Day Pass: 512 MB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 24 hours, for $5/ day.
2) 5 GB International Pass: 5 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 10 days, for $35.
3) 15 GB International Pass: 15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 30 days, for $50.It is always best to download the offline Portuguese (Brazil) version of Google Translate, so if no WiFi connection you can still use the app to successfully to translate your conversation without the need for WiFi.
Also as backup you could add GoogleFi for WiFi service. However, it could have been location in building or something blocking your WiFi Signal. Also consider when having connection issues to switch your phone to WiFi only or cellular only, sometimes when there is a weak signal the phone may be fighting between the protocols to obtain a signal.
As my report clearly shows, I use T-Mobile service, but I find it woefully inadequate on its own and thus it is an absolute necessity to buy the T-Mobil International Pass if you want to use your cell phone with T-Mobile outside of local WIFI hookups in SP. It ain't cheap, but it works very well. Here are the rates:
1) International 1 Day Pass: 512 MB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 24 hours, for $5/ day.
2) 5 GB International Pass: 5 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 10 days, for $35.
3) 15 GB International Pass: 15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 30 days, for $50.If you have a dual sim phone, AIRALO is cheaper in Brazil for high speed data.
5 GB /30 days /$15.5.
10 GB /30 days /$26.
I always use this and the app shows you how much you have left so you can top off easily.
If you are OK with spending an additional are $50 to are $60 per go, you will find much more attractive girls at avenida Miruna 644, Moema Prime (avenida Irai 511), and other places in Moema. The facilities are also nicer. They are the middle ground compromise between the down and dirty Vila Mariana and below places and the sky high Scandallo and similar boates. Scandallo has been a bit of a religious pilgrimage for punters for 20 years now. For me the novelty wore off after a couple of visits I didn't even have to pay for because my colleagues expensed it. The girls there are absolutely a cut above in attractiveness to the lower priced places and they do the classic courtesan thing. It's worth it for many of us.
Thanks for your answers and here is my report.
I visited Yankin on Wednesday afternoon after receiving a Whatsapp reply that there are around 10 girls. The kind gentleman (likely the owner?) at the front desk could speak good English. Available girls were quickly presented one*by one while it was hard to remember who was who at the end (maybe because there was no real hottie for me to choose). The gentleman let me see the girls again by going to the girls' lounge with me. When I asked about extra services, the gentleman kindly answered that BBBJ are generally included as a part of classic*sex, while others, one of which was*CIM, may be done after reaching an agreement*or negotiating with the girl. Girls' appearances were a*bit disappointing but I picked one. Unfortunately, this girl denied BBBJ. Then I realized that I should have confirmed this (maybe in front*of the front desk gentleman) before going into the room. Just plain sex at 150/30 min and I did not feel like*extending. I paid for lessons.
I visited Tangara on*Sunday afternoon. Via WhatsApp they*sent*me photos of*around 6 or 7 girls that are*working. When I reached in front of this place, I was a bit confused. I could not find a house number or a parking lot indicating the place is in business. Just pushed a door bell next to a blue door after checking the google map street view. Only two girls were presented to me when I was on a seat. And I had to wait for 15 minutes to see the girl that I was interested in based on Whatsapp photos. Since more guys came in, I was a bit nervous and looked over the*girls' lounge. Actually the girl was there so I showed my interest. *This girl's attitude was as good as her appearance. 150/30 min including BBBJ.
I would visit Tangara again when I have a chance. Next time I would check the girls' lounge often. It seems that the staff does not always show available girls to me as soon as they are available.
Steve 9696
01-06-24, 02:27
Axel you seem like a man of means. You should just get Google Fi and chuck all that TMobile crap. It's $70/ mo and does unlimited data in 220 countries. You can pause and restart anytime you want so if you travel irregularly you don't have to pay monthly. I travel a lot so I just keep it year round and it's been a life saver. Finding girls at their incall flats in London. Never being without Wi-Fi. Ever. It's great. Worth every penny.
BTW that labia massage thing has a word in Japanese. It's called Sumata. And yeah it can be pretty great done right.
The CBJ finally caught up to you. I know that naked feeling as I have been there a few times. Haha. What did you think you could say to change her mind?
... This girl performed the BBBJ & the labia massage while standing and on the bed. ....I have a paisa spinner that does this very well. She basically float on my body because she is so light. I can face fuck her at this position and she cooperated very well.
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BenTiger07
01-06-24, 10:55
Axel you seem like a man of means. You should just get Google Fi and chuck all that TMobile crap. It's $70/ mo and does unlimited data in 220 countries. You can pause and restart anytime you want so if you travel irregularly you don't have to pay monthly. I travel a lot so I just keep it year round and it's been a life saver. Finding girls at their incall flats in London. Never being without Wi-Fi. Ever. It's great. Worth every penny.
BTW that labia massage thing has a word in Japanese. It's called Sumata. And yeah it can be pretty great done right.Have you guys found google fi or tmobile to provide more reliable service in sao Paulo & Rio? My experience with tmobile in sao Paulo is the signal is bad about 20% of the time.
Download the app "Airalo" and assuming your phone has esim, you get 10 gb for $25/30 days, half the price. I got cancelled by google fi because I sometimes I spend more than 3 months at a time outside of the US and that's against their terms of service. Great report and thanks for taking a stand on the BBBJ, this is exactly what I do, always. This is a Hard No for me anywhere, especially in Brazil where it almost never happens. Cheers.
1) International 1 Day Pass: 512 MB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 24 hours, for $5/ day.
2) 5 GB International Pass: 5 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 10 days, for $35.
3) 15 GB International Pass: 15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 30 days, for $50.
Steve 9696
01-06-24, 21:23
Have you guys found google fi or tmobile to provide more reliable service in sao Paulo & Rio? My experience with tmobile in sao Paulo is the signal is bad about 20% of the time.Google Fi always reliable. I used it in prob ten countries last year including stops in Rio and SP. No issues. You do have to wait I a few minutes when you land and reboot phone to get best network. Other than that works like a champ.
That is how any mobile carrier international roaming plan works. GoogleFi's privacy policy is what sets it apart. Like any google product, you have to go through lots of hoops to retain any control of your personal data. Unlike other google products, GoogleFi doesn't offer much cost advantage over competitive products that comply with international personal data protection laws.
Google Fi always reliable. I used it in prob ten countries last year including stops in Rio and SP. No issues. You do have to wait I a few minutes when you land and reboot phone to get best network. Other than that works like a champ.
Axel Heyst
01-07-24, 14:36
Google Fi always reliable. I used it in prob ten countries last year including stops in Rio and SP. No issues. You do have to wait I a few minutes when you land and reboot phone to get best network. Other than that works like a champ.I checked out Google Fi and their unlimited + plan which is $65/ month vrs my T-mobil $50/ month plan. I spend roughly 3 months per year travelling in foreign countries (Brazil exclusively since April 2021), so T-mobil international pass adds another $150/ year to my tab for a grand total of $750/ year all in and in addition they give me Paramount + which is a small perk.
Google Fi unlimited + plan is $65/ month which comes to $780/ year and they throw in a year of YouTube Premium. The only benefit I see in switching to Google Fi would be if I wanted a new phone. For new subscribers Google Fi offers its Google Pixel 8 Pro for $12.46 per month discounted from $41.62 per month with 24 bill credits, Retail price: $999 $41.62/ mo $12.46/ mo with 24 bill credits which comes to $700 back after 24 months.
Or Google Fi offers a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra at $27.08 per month discounted from $50.00 per month with 24 bill credits, Retail price: $1,199.99 $50.00/ mo $27.08/ mo with 24 bill credits. Retail price: $1,199.99 which comes to $550 back after 24 months.
If I needed a new phone I would jump on the Google offer. But I have a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra which is working fine, so I don't think I will change plans right now, but I will keep this in mind when the time comes to buy a new phone.
Download the app "Airalo" and assuming your phone has esim, you get 10 gb for $25/30 days, half the price. I got cancelled by google fi because I sometimes I spend more than 3 months at a time outside of the US and that's against their terms of service. Great report and thanks for taking a stand on the BBBJ, this is exactly what I do, always. This is a Hard No for me anywhere, especially in Brazil where it almost never happens. Cheers.How does the esim work it just allows your phone to connect to local Brazil network? Through the Airalo app.
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