Sao Paulo Reports [Archive] - Page 72

Axel Heyst

01-08-24, 13:27

The CBJ finally caught up to you. I know that naked feeling as I have been there a few times. Haha. What did you think you could say to change her mind?
Yep, CBJ finally caught up to me. KKK. Probably nothing could have changed her mind, but she did offer BBBJ for a 100 BR upsell which was the final straw (I would have accepted a 100 BR upsell for BBFS, however). Two other gals, one in and Abbobora and another one in Sharon prematurely reached for a condom lying on the nightstand. I merely said not now and they both dropped the idea and gave me decent BBBJ's. But this covered BJ nonsense may be a trend especially among younger Brazilia girls entering the profession post Omicron. I don't know. We will have to wait and see.

BTW that labia massage thing has a word in Japanese. It's called Sumata. And yeah it can be pretty great done right.This was the 1st time I experienced it in Brazil, but I used to enjoy wet labia massages all the time in Rio Sauna & Familia Nobre in Macau AND occasionally in La Belle & the Lord (my all-time favorite soapy before they were shut down by Thai authorities for stealing city water).

All you gots to do is know some elementary Portuguese, like "sexo oral sem camishina". I will remember the phrase, but I prefer not to talk about specific acts during the audition assuming a BBBJ is the default. But if my assumption results in few more aborted sessions, I will adapt to the new post-covid world and specify exactly what I want. I did not make it to Casuara this time around partly because of what I was hearing from other punters and partly because by midnight I have already had one girl and if I wanted another girl, I would just hung out at the Boate I was already in.

Have you ever been to Amsterdam? Back in the day when I used to lay over for a few nights in AMS on my way to and from BKK, I used to dabble a little with the store front gals. Everything had to be negotiated before walking into a girl's room. Bra off, kissing nipples; everything was extra and CBJ's was the default in AMS. Good thing I was stoned on Nederhash laced joints and was therefor very flexible. KKK. I also knew I was going to be in SE Asia in a couple of days and my layover was just a warmup for much better things to come.

HotelAl

01-08-24, 13:33

brazil postpones visa requirements for usa, canada and australia citizens to april. Brazilian officials say they have postponed for the second time the reintroduction of requirements to obtain tourist visas for citizens of the usa, australia and canada.great news.

Anaggie

01-08-24, 14:09

How does the esim work it just allows your phone to connect to local Brazil network? Through the Airalo app.Download the app. Purchase the eSIM you want for Brazil. Click on install once you are in Brazil. I do it while waiting for bags to come out and connected to airport WiFi.

You need to be connected to WiFi and have an unlocked phone for the eSIM to install.

Vagabundo1

01-08-24, 14:23

What about mobile hotspots, unlimited T-mobile, global roaming? Like this.

https://www.t-mobile.com/hotspot-iot-connected-devices/inseego-mifi-x-pro-5g

Or even a starlink (see attached). If I have a friend bring me one from the USA can I use that device?

Maybe this should be on the general info thread. But there is also a business opportunity here.

See economist.com for articles on hackers in Brazil. Maybe this is just the group to find talent for that biz. Goes well with fcking, which is part of the 3 F's of Brazilian culture, along with fighting and futbol.

Speaking of which, where are my German soccer fans out there? I could use some authentic German National Team soccer shirts-- will pay Fair Market Value! Since I am from a Hamburg family, which immigrated to Switzerland during the wars, and from thence to Brazil.

Vasco uber alles!

I checked out Google Fi and their unlimited + plan which is $65/ month vrs my T-mobil $50/ month plan. I spend roughly 3 months per year travelling in foreign countries (Brazil exclusively since April 2021), so T-mobil international pass adds another $150/ year to my tab for a grand total of $750/ year all in and in addition they give me Paramount + which is a small perk.

Google Fi unlimited + plan is $65/ month which comes to $780/ year and they throw in a year of YouTube Premium. The only benefit I see in switching to Google Fi would be if I wanted a new phone. For new subscribers Google Fi offers its Google Pixel 8 Pro for $12.46 per month discounted from $41.62 per month with 24 bill credits, Retail price: $999 $41.62/ mo $12.46/ mo with 24 bill credits which comes to $700 back after 24 months.

Or Google Fi offers a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra at $27.08 per month discounted from $50.00 per month with 24 bill credits, Retail price: $1,199.99 $50.00/ mo $27.08/ mo with 24 bill credits. Retail price: $1,199.99 which comes to $550 back after 24 months.

If I needed a new phone I would jump on the Google offer. But I have a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra which is working fine, so I don't think I will change plans right now, but I will keep this in mind when the time comes to buy a new phone.

CenTexCrash

01-08-24, 18:17

How does one find Casarao on google maps? I'm having trouble finding it. Thanks!Hmm not sure if Google shadow bans select businesses?

Type "Casarao Augusta" or as fall back look up "Tropicalo Club" and Casarao will be two doors to the left.

Steve 9696

01-08-24, 18:47

Hmm not sure if Google shadow bans select businesses?

Type "Casarao Augusta" or as fall back look up "Tropicalo Club" and Casarao will be two doors to the left.Even if you type Casarao Augusta you don't get it. But strangely if you type Casarao Boate. It comes up no problem.

Axel Heyst

01-08-24, 20:42

What about mobile hotspots, unlimited T-mobile, global roaming? Like this.

https://www.t-mobile.com/hotspot-iot-connected-devices/inseego-mifi-x-pro-5g

I am not sure this product is applicable for what you want to do with it in RJ. Maybe is my answer, because the question is a little bit above my pay grade. KKK. In any case here is a link to PC magazine's review of the product: https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/t-mobile-inseego-mifi-x-pro-5g-m3000.

PC Mag gives it a 4. 5 Star "OUTSTANDING" review.

Axel Heyst

01-08-24, 22:42

Even if you type Casarao Augusta you don't get it. But strangely if you type Casarao Boate. It comes up no problem.Bing found it no problem.

Axel Heyst

01-09-24, 18:05

Bing found it no problem.And same same with my Google & DuckDuck searches, so I don't know what the problem is. Probably something to do with your VPN or local server.

Vagabundo1

01-09-24, 21:40

Thanks man.

I owe you a drink.

Oh, and when you need to actually get photo for your Brazilian Visa, you might just want to try Apple iPhoto or Adobe Photoshop. Not sayin, just sayin.

I am not sure this product is applicable for what you want to do with it in RJ. Maybe is my answer, because the question is a little bit above my pay grade. KKK. In any case here is a link to PC magazine's review of the product: https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/t-mobile-inseego-mifi-x-pro-5g-m3000.

PC Mag gives it a 4. 5 Star "OUTSTANDING" review.

Vagabundo1

01-09-24, 22:05

When Vagabundo's grandfather was in the German Army on the outskirts of Salingrad 2027, he used a Starlink dish purchased in Atlanta Georgia and shipped to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, manned by hoars from high rises in Rio De Janeiro's prives and Sao Paulo's clinicas to call in money strikes and air strikes to destroy all the final remnants of the Hamas Russian Chinese hold outs and dead enders in Moscow. Thereafter followed 332 years of raping, murdering, pillaging and hoaring, thus ensuring that internationalsexguide. NL became the number one website on the internet. Selah.

OK, and with an intro like that, who the f wants to go into the starlink ganjacoffeeshopstripclub business with Attorney Surgeon General Vagabundo? Or in the immortal words of Arnold Schwarzenegger.

What is best in life?

Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women!

What about mobile hotspots, unlimited T-mobile, global roaming? Like this.

https://www.t-mobile.com/hotspot-iot...-mifi-x-pro-5g

Or even a starlink (see attached). If I have a friend bring me one from the USA can I use that device?

Maybe this should be on the general info thread. But there is also a business opportunity here.

See economist.com for articles on hackers in Brazil. Maybe this is just the group to find talent for that biz. Goes well with fcking, which is part of the 3 F's of Brazilian culture, along with fighting and futbol.

Speaking of which, where are my German soccer fans out there? I could use some authentic German National Team soccer shirts-- will pay Fair Market Value! Since I am from a Hamburg family, which immigrated to Switzerland during the wars, and from thence to Brazil.

Vasco uber alles!

DonMoscow

01-09-24, 23:28

Tried to research, but nothing came up. Any websites? Thanks.

Knowledge

01-10-24, 12:10

It pops up on uber and indriver also.

And same same with my Google & DuckDuck searches, so I don't know what the problem is. Probably something to do with your VPN or local server.

Nounce

01-10-24, 16:43

Hmm not sure if Google shadow bans select businesses?

Type "Casarao Augusta" or as fall back look up "Tropicalo Club" and Casarao will be two doors to the left.What do you see when you click on map tab in google result? Or just search on google map.

BartSimpson5

01-10-24, 19:08

I don't have huge mongering experience, Medellin, Rio and São Paulo so far. But after visiting Scandallo I have to say that this place outperformed anything in Rio and Medellin. Is just incredible and so many girls look like models. Yeah it's expensive, I average around 500 usd per visit but experience is just amazing. Do you know any place in the world that is on the same level as Scandallo? (because I don't believe there's anything better).

XXL

01-10-24, 23:31

Steve 9696

01-11-24, 00:14

I don't have huge mongering experience, Medellin, Rio and So Paulo so far. But after visiting Scandallo I have to say that this place outperformed anything in Rio and Medellin. Is just incredible and so many girls look like models. Yeah it's expensive, I average around 500 usd per visit but experience is just amazing. Do you know any place in the world that is on the same level as Scandallo? (because I don't believe there's anything better).Seriously. I have been everywhere. Nothing can touch Scandallo worldwide for the number and talent level of the girls, nor honestly the scope and luxury of it. Def baddest chick venue on the planet. And they are all Brasileiras! Baddest chicks on the planet attitude wise. It's the mega win. Will be boots on the ground soon and def report out.

The Cane

01-11-24, 01:13

I don't have huge mongering experience, Medellin, Rio and So Paulo so far. But after visiting Scandallo I have to say that this place outperformed anything in Rio and Medellin. Is just incredible and so many girls look like models. Yeah it's expensive, I average around 500 usd per visit but experience is just amazing. Do you know any place in the world that is on the same level as Scandallo? (because I don't believe there's anything better).If you know, you know. And if you don't, then you better ask somebody! What I say, what I say? It's the baddest puta palace on the planet!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdhYePsTaTk&ab_channel=SCANDALLOLOUNGETV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGhXnW5uz_8&ab_channel=IvainTures

BartSimpson5

01-11-24, 18:08

Seriously. I have been everywhere. Nothing can touch Scandallo worldwide for the number and talent level of the girls, nor honestly the scope and luxury of it. Def baddest chick venue on the planet. And they are all Brasileiras! Baddest chicks on the planet attitude wise. It's the mega win. Will be boots on the ground soon and def report out.Wow that's impressive, what would be your top 5 adult clubs worldwide?

SocratesNY

01-12-24, 01:59

FKK Sharks, Darmstadt.
FKK Globe, Zurich.Comparing FKKs to a Brazilian boate is a bit like comparing oranges to tangerines.

One has a sauna / spa like atmosphere with amenities to fit, while the other is a luxurious nighttime club, restaurant and lounge.

Both FKKs you listed aren't even close to Scandallo in the most important thing for a hobbyist. The girls. This is especially true and the gap has only grown post-pandemic.

Sharks might compete occasionally with Scandallo with regards to the amount of girls present. But in terms of quality and service of the girls, Scandallo wins easily.

Taste in women is subjective, but I think the majority of hobbyist would agree that the FKK / Romanian girls on average can't compete with Scandallo / Brazilian women in terms of service quality.

In the past, you could argue that you could get more value / bang for your buck at FKKs, but with the increase in FKK pricing and the weak real, that's no longer the case.

I have been going to FKKs for over a decade, as I travel to Europe for work often. I used to visit them almost daily / nightly on my trips. In my last few trips since the pandemic, I've soured on them so much after my initial visit of the trip, I've not returned on subsequent days.

I think the only areas that I now consider FKKs to be superior are: 1) if you prefer naked girls walking around over girls in revealing dresses 2) you prefer the Romanian or Eastern European look (although those can be found in Scandallo too) or 3) you enjoy watching public sex (FKK Gkobe only).

With that said, I think all hobbyist should visit a big or well known FKK at least once in their life. It is a sight to see. And who knows, FKKs might be their preferred hobbying venue.

Steve 9696

01-12-24, 04:14

Wow that's impressive, what would be your top 5 adult clubs worldwide?Fwiw I agree with pretty much everything Socrates said. I suppose the key point is there is a big drop off after Scandallo. Nothing comes close for the combination of number of girls, luxe atmosphere, and good GFE experience (on balance your average brasileira is more sexually engaging than any other country imo). So honestly if I was going to go somewhere else it might just be Casarao. Yes a major step down but packed with people and plenty of hot girls. So it would prob make my top five. Or maybe Bomboa or Cafe Photo could be argued for the list. I hope to hit all of the major SP clubs in the next few months and will be sure to compare and contrast here.

As Socrates says FKK is a very different experience and something every man must do. My buddy Blue Moon just fucked 10 chicks this past week in an epic FKK tour. Very doable thing! And XXL has the lineup right. Globe is prob the best FKK in the world for guaranteed service. Zurich. And Sharks has the glitz and glam more like Scandallo but down a notch in class ones for sure and the girls are very pushy.

I also like Vive Madrid which is waaaaay smaller than Scandallo but same basic idea and all South American girls.

Manhattan in Shanghai was amazing with tons of Viets but China is cracking down so not 100% sure it's as good. As with SP I plan to disambiguate this later this year!

And Penthouse or Aurora or Angels in Moscow might get the nod if you could travel there. So given the difficulties with China / Russia I'the prob say the top five after Scandallo for me are:

Globe FKK.

Sharks FKK.

Oase FKK.

Casarao (sure that will be debated but I like it).

Vive.

I can't rank order them. It's like rank ordering your children. 😜.

Ps I am sure some Rio enthusiasts will chime in but I was very underwhelmed by 4x4. I found Monte Carlo Terma great for pretty girls and great service. But we are talking 10 girls not 100 so not sure it counts.

The Cane

01-12-24, 06:29

So given the difficulties with China / Russia I'the prob say the top five after Scandallo for me are:

Globe FKK.

Sharks FKK.

Oase FKK.

Casarao (sure that will be debated but I like it).

Vive.

I can't rank order them. It's like rank ordering your children. 😜.

Ps I am sure some Rio enthusiasts will chime in but I was very underwhelmed by 4x4. I found Monte Carlo Terma great for pretty girls and great service. But we are talking 10 girls not 100 so not sure it counts.Brazil and Germany are my two favorite countries for mongering (I like Spain a lot too but not as much these days due to decreased value delivery for the money). So, I don't have a real issue with your list except for Globe in Switzerland. The cost of mongering there (girls, transportation, lodging, food, etc.) is all way, way, way too high. Zurich is consistently ranked as one of the most expensive cities in the world. For anyone who is a "budget monger" (I'm not one) it's totally out of the question as an option. When it comes to pussy you can get the same girl optics and service level in Germany for half the price. That's been my experience. Now, should every man experience Globe at least once if he can? Yeah. But go there on any kind of regular basis? Naw! Not unless you just happen to live there and you really can't get away. As far as the Rio termas go they will always get a big thumbs up from me. But I can see why you were underwhelmed. My last experiences with them weren't nearly as good as when I first started going in the early 2000's, even at the world famous 4 x4. I found a girl there I liked and had a good session, but the place had really fallen off in terms of talent. It used to be loaded with hotties delivering PSE sex in the room. We all just need to remember that it all works in cycles. The place that was hot last time is not this time, and vice versa. But, there's always next time. So here's hoping for the future!

The Cane

01-12-24, 08:04

Destinations (based totally on personal preference):

1. Brazil.

2. Germany.

3. Spain.

4. Costa Rica.

5. Thailand (number 1 if you're into Asian chicks).

Clubs (based on total years of experience going to each):

1. Scandallo (Sao Paulo).

2. Quatro por Quatro (Rio de Janeiro).

3. Oase (Frankfurt).

4. Artemis (Berlin).

5. Palace (Frankfurt).

You'll notice that I don't have popular FKK Sharks on my list. There's nothing particularly wrong with Sharks that I can point to. It's just not a club that has ever really worked for me. Can't put my finger on why. It just doesn't. Not for me. And these top 5 lists are only just scratching the surface. There are so many countries to visit and clubs to see where you can have a good time! My experience is light in Asia mainly because I'm really not attracted to most Asian women. ISO, I can't justify spending money going to Asia to monger a lot. But the Philippines is another must-do destination if you're a monger. Does not make my top 5 destination list, but if I liked Asian women more it would be number 2 right after Thailand. Yes sir it would! Dubai is another one. The place offers the best diversity in the world (last night I doggy fucked a Russian blonde, tonight I'm fucking some exotic Turkmen pussy, and tomorrow night going to Ratsky to get me a Filipina spinner. And York has Ethiopians, Chinese, and Turks)!

Balboa

01-12-24, 08:45

I also like Vive Madrid which is waaaaay smaller than Scandallo but same basic idea and all South American girls.
Great post!

Vive, however, does not have all South American girls.

Lots of them, true.

DonMoscow

01-13-24, 00:00

I think the majority of hobbyist would agree that the FKK / Romanian girls on average can't compete with Scandallo / Brazilian women in terms of service quality.

Out of all the Romanian women I've been with, only one is was true gem.

Out of all the Brazilian women I've been with, only one is was true suck.

DonMoscow

01-13-24, 00:25

What's the deal with Tangara?

They have so many women on shift but the hot ones are always taken. I sometime spot one and would be told someone has booked her. The available ones are 5's, I have yet to pop there. Would be wanting to try Lily there.

Axel Heyst

01-13-24, 00:26

Warning: I dig Asian girls! I also dig Brazilian girls! And I don't know a thing about European bordellos and do not care. 555.

I will break it down like this: currently I have 2 favorite mongering destinations where I enjoy spending a lot of time (more than a month in each place per visit): Brazil & LOS, more specifically I like SP, BKK, and Pattaya.

Note: if any of you South American aficionados have not been to Thailand, GO before it is too late! Sooner rather than later / take my word for it. Because no place on Earth has the volume and quantity of girls, bars, massage parlors, FL's, SWs, and you name it, they got it from 11 am to 5 am. And it is all out in the open. Just roll out of your hotel and you are in the thick of it. It is fucking amazing! It changed my life 30 years ago!

Girls:

There are a number of worthy SE Asian destinations that I like almost as much as Brazil & LOS, but I wouldn't want to spend more than 2 weeks in many of these cities on any one trip. Currently post covid, I am thinking mostly about going back to Jakarta & Phnom Penh, but if looks and performance count as it does in my book, I give the edge to Jakarta over Phnom narrowly.

Jakarta girls usually come with pretty SE Asian faces, well-endowed natural ta ta's and they usually have slender bodies with few tats or surgical work unlike Thai girls. They are also more active and less spoiled in bed than Thai girls although not as GFE inclined as Khmer or Filipina girls. Kind of like the Asian equivalent of Brazilian girls. Ha Ha. Kind of.

Jakarta Bars & Clubs:

It is hard to compare various venues because of the differences between them from destination to destination. I consider Scandallo to be the benchmark. It is one of the best bordellos in the world, but it is unique because as a Boate it is essentially a FL bordello nightclub, bar / restaurant with live entertainment, a hefty consumable entry fee, hotel rooms, and if you want a reasonable girly take away fee.

Jakarta of all the various destinations in SE Asia, perhaps most resembles Sao Paulo, but there are key differences to its venues. Malio Club / Malioboro, a longtime favorite high-end honky tonk of mine, is set up a little different than Scandallo or other SP Boates being that the girls either work for the club or work for a mamasan in the club and there is no girly take away fee except at prohibitory prices. Hotel Alexis, another great Jakarta bordello, which used to be my all-time favorite in terms of quality and quantity could easily rival Scandallo, but again it was not a takeout place and its girls worked for the house. I think of Hotel Alexis as an RJ Terma on steroids. Too bad it got busted and shut down in 2018 on account of having a few underage girls. Its replacement club, 1001 Pool, is just not as good IMHO, but they still have a large number (over 100) of girls on any given night.

But let's not forget Classic Hotel which resembles an inexpensive RJ Terma on super, super, super, steroids. Come to think of it, Classic is more like Casaro in this respect. But imagine 3 floors with hundreds and hundreds of young Indonesian girls on each floor and with the cost of a girl less than at Casaro. I mean seriously this is a must-see joint! You are either going to love it or hate it. It ain't like Scandallo, no way, but I will bet good money, you will love it.

Then there are the 5-star Jakarta Hotel FL pick up bars like CJ's and Bats. These bars resemble Scandallo too, but in a different way. A lot of FL girls show up at these bars every night. CJ's, the larger and better one, usually has at least a 100 girls most nights by 11 pm standing between the VIP section and the rest of the bar all dressed up really nice and sophisticated like waiting for Mr. Customer, but CJ's has no rooms unless you happen to be staying at the 5 star Mulia Senayan hotel (which houses CJ's on the 2nd floor) for a couple of hundred dollars / night. In any case, these high class FL pickup bars have a one drink minimum, but no barfine or girly exit fee. There are just high-class pick-up joints with "live" entertainment, drinks, and food. Find a girl you like and leave or stay, drink, party / fool around all night with your girl or girls and then leave.

So, I dig Jakarta. I tend to think of Jakarta as the SP of SE Asia because it is set up in a similar fashion with everything kept low key behind closed doors as opposed to the out in the open circus circus atmosphere of BKK and Pattaya and everything in Jakarta is spread far apart. The CGK bordellos are in the north, the 5-star hotel pick up bars are in the south and you will need Bluebird taxis to get around. I highly recommend this city for a 2-week visit.

Combine Jakarta with a 3 week stay in LOS divided equally between BKK and Pat and maybe add on a week side trip to Phnom and you will have it made; a GREAT SE ASIAN TRIP! And afterwards decide for yourself the rankings of your favorite bordellos and how they compare to Scandallo and how Indonesian girls compare to Brazilian girls.

FlowState985

01-13-24, 03:34

Steve 9696

01-13-24, 03:59

Thanks Axel for the epic post. I admit I have not been to Jakarta and have no reason to go. But now I'm going to make one! Two clarifications / augmentations to Axels post.

For those not familiar his use of LOS means Land of Smiles aka Thailand.

And he is 100% spot on that the neon and zillion bar girls trying to drag you into their club and the nearly unlimited quantity of gogos and hot girls is epic in Thailand. If a man is to plan a complete life he must do Scandallo, FKK, and Thailand (I prefer Nana plaza to Cowboy these days). And apparently Jakarta as well. I will start planning! Thanks Axel.

The Cane

01-13-24, 04:38

So, I dig Jakarta. I tend to think of Jakarta as the SP of SE Asia because it is set up in a similar fashion with everything kept low key behind closed doors as opposed to the out in the open circus circus atmosphere of BKK and Pattaya and everything in Jakarta is spread far apart. Combine Jakarta with a 3 week stay in LOS divided equally between BKK and Pat and maybe add on a week side trip to Phnom and you will have it made; a GREAT SE ASIAN TRIP! And afterwards decide for yourself the rankings of your favorite bordellos and how they compare to Scandallo and how Indonesian girls compare to Brazilian girls.I don't want to spend much more time here talking about places other than Brazil, but I have to ask. How are the Indonesian girls when it comes to anal? Hehehe! I mean that's a legitimate inquiry if you're going to be holding them up to the Brazilian girls LOL! And I heard that traffic is worse than Manila's even. That's hard to imagine!

SoberHans69

01-13-24, 07:53

I've never visited Jakarta as I've read quite a few posts on this forum from regular posters that the Classic and Travel hotel are Mafia run and the girls there are basically controlled by them. Not sure how true this is but personally I'm not going to knowingly go to somewhere like that.

Been going to Pattaya for years and its rubbish compared to what it used to be. Soi 6 is mainly a drinking street now and the town is just full of overpriced Go Go's. 99% of the women in the Gentleman clubs I wouldn't fuck for free. There is still good value online but online mongering bores the sh1 t out of me. Most Thai girls suck in bed too (no pun intended), especially compared to the Brazilian girls.

In terms of mongering, nowhere can compete with Brazil imo.

Turgid

01-13-24, 14:43

.....Jakarta of all the various destinations in SE Asia, perhaps most resembles Sao Paulo, but there are key differences to its venues. Malio Club / Malioboro, a longtime favorite high-end honky tonk of mine.......I sometimes try to decide on the best mongering trip I've ever made and Jakarta comes out at the top. One month in 2015. Malio Club / Malioboro is the major reason why I rate it so highly. Also Classic with hundreds of hot Indo girls contributes. For me Indonesian women are the most beautiful in SEA.

Krilimag

01-13-24, 14:53

Anaggie

01-13-24, 17:50

My first visit to Scandello was in Feb 2020 and I was blown away. I was going to Brazil before but never really explored SP. I was either in Rio for a few days and / or some other small town in other states. Now I make sure I stay in SP on every trip for a few days. Since then I have found this site to be very useful in finding other venues in other countries that I visit. I have traveled to a few countries since then and this is how I see them compared to Brazil.

Dubai highly overrated. Yes. There are hot Russians and Eastern Europeans but unless you are willing to drop some serious coin, you aren't getting those. Price and service wise. I was disappointed especially compared to Brazil. On my second trip, I just bought a flight ticket for my regular Scandello girl to meet me in Dubai and spend time with me instead of trying to find something.

Saigon One main place to find girls. Set up like a clinica. Lots of young skinny girls (which is my type) but nothing special. I like the talking and conversing so this wasn't my cup of tea. I visited it a few times while I was in town since that was pretty much the only sure thing in the area and it was clean and close to my hotel.

Bangkok hated it. I am not a fan of Asian girls. And the whole setup is just terrible. Yes they have lots of girls but majority are unfuckable. Never again.

Hong Kong pre Covid and pre Scandello I always enjoyed the Wan Chai bars and would always end up with a South American girl. Colombian or Venezuelan. Good service and I would enjoy it. Haven't been since Covid but going back this March. I have heard it has gone downhill so I am taking my regular Scandello girl and her friend who also works at Scandello on this trip which also includes Singapore. Asian persuasion doesn't work for me 🤣.

I would like to try to hit up the FKKs once and maybe hit some spots in Spain. But other than that nothing really appeals to me after Brazil. Especially Scandello aka HEAVEN ON EARTH!

DonMoscow

01-13-24, 17:56

Speaking of Tangará, has anyone tried Larissa? Her photos look hooooot! Can't see her face tho.

Axel Heyst

01-13-24, 19:30

I don't want to spend much more time here talking about places other than Brazil, but I have to ask. How are the Indonesian girls when it comes to anal? Hehehe! I mean that's a legitimate inquiry if you're going to be holding them up to the Brazilian girls LOL! And I heard that traffic is worse than Manila's even. It is a legitimate question, but I rarely do anal, so I can't say with any degree of accuracy. But I do know 1st hand (KKK) that bareback is readily available in Indonesia, Cambodia, Burma, and the PI. No need to ask. So my guess is anal is not a problem with most girls in these countries excluding Thailand. I assume you are speaking of covered anal, right? KKK. P.S. The best anal I ever had was in RJ with a Barra Vips girl. Go figure! Man, did she have a sweet back door. I loved anal with her.

1) I've never visited Jakarta as I've read quite a few posts on this forum from regular posters that the Classic and Travel hotel are Mafia run and the girls there are basically controlled by them. Not sure how true this is but personally I'm not going to knowingly go to somewhere like that.

2) Been going to Pattaya for years and its rubbish compared to what it used to be. Soi 6 is mainly a drinking street now and the town is just full of overpriced Go Go's. 99% of the women in the Gentleman clubs I wouldn't fuck for free. There is still good value online but online mongering bores the sh1 t out of me. Most Thai girls suck in bed too (no pun intended), especially compared to the Brazilian girls.

3) In terms of mongering, nowhere can compete with Brazil imo.1) I have heard some similar stories about Classic girls and more or less girls in every port of call including Brazil. Every hooker has a tragic story to tell if you care to listen to it. My favorite BKK girl, who I saw for over 10 years, originally left her home in Udon and went to work in a Pattaya food stall preparing vegetables. Soon after she met a Thai boy who was a musician and an inveterate gambler. He ran up a huge debt with the local mobsters and when he could no longer pay the vig, he ran way, leaving poor Mini on the hook. She started working in Baccara Cowboy (where I met her in 2010) and eventually she paid off the debt & interest.

2) This is why in my previous post I advised guys who have never been there to go to Thailand now, the sooner the better. The trend over there is not good. I think I could still have a very good time in LOS if I went back, but for how long is the question. The trend in LOS is not our friend.

3) I agree with you with regards to sexual performance, attitude, and drive. Brazilian girls are amazing in bed and on average they outperform most Thai girls, but bareback is not the default here in Brazil. I have pals over in the Asian forums that were very interested in everything I had to say about Brazilian girls and Brazilian bordellos until the subject of condoms came up and after I told them the truth, they lost interest. KKK. BTW, Thailand is the most conservative SE Asian country in this regard, but Thai girls are not as conservative as their Brazilian sisters. It took me 7 sessions & 1. 5 trips before my favorite Scandallo girl dropped her condom requirement. But it was worth the wait. KKK.

I sometimes try to decide on the best mongering trip I've ever made and Jakarta comes out at the top. One month in 2015. Malio Club / Malioboro is the major reason why I rate it so highly. Also Classic with hundreds of hot Indo girls contributes. For me Indonesian women are the most beautiful in SEA.Yeah, I agree. Indo girls are very hot & sexy! Best in SE Asia (maybe). KKK. I want to go back!

My first visit to Scandello was in Feb 2020 and I was blown away. I was going to Brazil before but never really explored SP. I was either in Rio for a few days and / or some other small town in other states. Now I make sure I stay in SP on every trip for a few days. Since then I have found this site to be very useful in finding other venues in other countries that I visit. I have traveled to a few countries since then and this is how I see them compared to Brazil.

Dubai highly overrated. Yes. There are hot Russians and Eastern Europeans but unless you are willing to drop some serious coin, you aren't getting those. Price and service wise. I was disappointed especially compared to Brazil. On my second trip, I just bought a flight ticket for my regular Scandello girl to meet me in Dubai and spend time with me instead of trying to find something.

Saigon One main place to find girls. Set up like a clinica. Lots of young skinny girls (which is my type) but nothing special. I like the talking and conversing so this wasn't my cup of tea. I visited it a few times while I was in town since that was pretty much the only sure thing in the area and it was clean and close to my hotel.

Bangkok hated it. I am not a fan of Asian girls. And the whole setup is just terrible. Yes they have lots of girls but majority are unfuckable. Never again.

Hong Kong pre Covid and pre Scandello I always enjoyed the Wan Chai bars and would always end up with a South American girl. Colombian or Venezuelan. Good service and I would enjoy it. Haven't been since Covid but going back this March. I have heard it has gone downhill so I am taking my regular Scandello girl and her friend who also works at Scandello on this trip which also includes Singapore. Asian persuasion doesn't work for me <snip> But other than that nothing really appeals to me after Brazil. Especially Scandello aka HEAVEN ON EARTH!Scandallo blew me away the 1st time I went there too right after covid. Actually, while Omicron was still going strong in Oct / Nov 2021. Like I said it is the benchmark on which to compare all other places.

A well-travelled friend loves Saigon, but it all sounds too confusing to me. HKG was always on my SE Asian itinerary until the government limited the visa stay requirements for the girls making the city non profitable especially for Vietnamese girls. I loved the WanChai bars, but the prettiest girl I ever met in HKG was a Mongolian girl in Hari's Bar at the Holiday Inn on Nathan Rd. Hari's bar was a landmark! Macau was always on my itinerary too. What a selection of girls in the Saunas over there. And last, but far from least, Singapore. OMG. Who would have suspected that such a straight-laced city could have such a amazing mongering scene? Geylang casas (similar to Moema clinicas) in the day time, Geylang SW's at night. Imagine being surrounded by a couple of hundred girls on an otherwise quiet residential street. It was amazing. And lest I ever forget the Orchard road bar scene. I will never foreget Brix bar in the basement of the Hyatt and the world class Ipanema bar located on the 2nd floor in Orchard Towers. What a town!

Which reminds me how everything can and go to hell change overnight. I am glad we still have SP & RJ, Jakarta, Phnom. The trend is not our friend.

P.S. You flew your favorite Scandallo girl to Dubai. Wow! You are an ADDICT. My hat's off to you. I have fantasized little about taking my favorite Scandallo girl to BKK. A day or two on Sukhumvit and then fly down to the southern islands. So far, I have only taken her to a nearby beach. Last visit, she mentioned Monte Verde and she has a car, so that might be our next road trip, but I really want to go up north and check out the beaches in NE Brazil. It's all good. I am back barely 2 weeks and I am already planning out my next Brazil trip.

Axel Heyst

01-13-24, 20:12

The recent conversations reminded me of a night a few weeks back in SP. My favorite gal came over and we started off drinking a couple glasses of quality Malbec. Then after our tops and bottoms fell by the wayside and she gave me a kneeling BJ. We adjourned to the bedroom, where I (we) enjoyed another round of real nice sex. Afterwards we had a bubble bath, and she blew me in the tub.

Now for the interesting part:

I dried off 1st and went into the bedroom and turned on the TV. A full-length YouTube video of some K Pop girly band live concert was playing, and I began watching the girls. Valeria came out of the bathroom, saw what was on the tube, and she began dancing nude along with the Korean girls. She had a big smile on her face, and she easily picked up on the K girls' moves. I laid back in bed and watched her dance nude besides the Korean girls on TV. Then the question entered my mind: who I would rather shag right now, Valeria or one of the Koreans. And my answer to self was Valeria!

I poured us another glass of wine, she came over, took a sip and then joined me in bed. I did not feel like going out, so I ordered room service. We eventually switched channels to something else and watched "TAR" of all movies. Our dinner arrived, we ate, I opened another bottle of vino, we watched a little more of Tar and then got it on again.

I don't know. It all sounds very domestic and homey. If you know what I mean. Like fantasy GFE should be. It was just another night in SP, but I could not help thinking I really dig this little girl and I really like SP.

The Cane

01-14-24, 01:59

It is a legitimate question, but I rarely do anal, so I can't say with any degree of accuracy. But I do know 1st hand (KKK) that bareback is readily available in Indonesia, Cambodia, Burma, and the PI. No need to ask. So my guess is anal is not a problem with most girls in these countries excluding Thailand. I assume you are speaking of covered anal, right? KKK. P.S. The best anal I ever had was in RJ with a Barra Vips girl. Go figure! Man, did she have a sweet back door. I loved anal with her.Getting BBFS was "easy peasey japanesy" in the Philippines. Like you say, it's the default setting. But getting anal was a serious problem. So much so that I didn't get any in the PI at all! There is definitely a societal lean away from anal sex in the PI no question about it. I remember one girl in Angeles City. We were getting undressed in the room and I touched her butt (just to be touching it and not thinking about anal). She said, "We won't be doing anything there". I did manage to get some "A-level" in Thailand though. All that said, I think that if one has the time to build up a stable of contacts in the PI (like WestCoast1 for example), then you would have enough girls available to sate that desire if you have it.

But as a tourist who doesn't have the time (and who is not sexually attracted to most Asian women resulting in a tiny applicant pool) I found it to be a pretty insurmountable task for me to get anal in the PI. I was there for a month, but moving around from one city to the next. No matter, we just have to happily accept the best offerings of a place. For the PI, one of those is BBFS! Girls would just ask that I not cum in them, but we would be fucking and they'd get so turned on and excited and carried away that I could have "nutted" inside of any of them that I wanted to. Well, I didn't want to and always pulled out. Sadly, I saw too many kids on the streets of the PI who were the obvious offspring of foreign fathers. There are no "little Canes" growing up in the Philippines (or anywhere else) without a father.

Bang Koker

01-14-24, 04:43

Hello fellow mongers,

I will be in SP in about a month and would like to sample the local talents. Wanted to know if any have used splove https://splove.com.br/.

They have a great videos of the ladies. Wanted to know if these are clinicas or do they also do outcall to your hotels? Any reports is greatly appreciated.

TY.I used SPLove for one outcall and I believe one incall. They were legit however the one that came to me didn't give me pleasant experience. They don't really negotiate prices but it's still a little bit cheaper option to bang an 8/9 than going to scandallo. You should look for feedback on gp guia before scheduling an appointment with them.

I also had an appointment with an escort from clubmodel.com.br who went crazy and kicked me out near the end of the meeting. See my previous posts if you want to know what happened.

Nounce

01-14-24, 10:21

... But I do know 1st hand (KKK) that bareback is readily available in Indonesia, Cambodia, Burma, and the PI. No need to ask. So my guess is anal is not a problem with most girls in these countries excluding Thailand.....In Medellin, maybe 25% will default to BBFS the first time. About 90% that I have repeated now are BBFS. None of them will do anal but I never asked for it. I think Thailand is easy with anal because there are many trans, how else would you do it? Hehehe.

..., but bareback is not the default here in Brazil. ....It depends on where you find them. For most working girls from clubs or brothels in Sao Paulo, that is true, but it could be the opposite if you find girls outside of those places.

Nounce

01-14-24, 10:53

....
I don't know. It all sounds very domestic and homey. If you know what I mean. Like fantasy GFE should be. It was just another night in SP, but I could not help thinking I really dig this little girl and I really like SP.That is basically my life here in Medellin. Haha.

Tonight, the girl arrived at my apartment at 6:30 PM. I usually have them come later during weekdays. She has been bugging to see me for a couple of weeks. She is very pretty, and she is in love with herself so she constantly taking selfie everywhere. The first thing she did when she got in my apartment was went to the balcony and asked me to take pictures of her before I messed up her look. LOL. She stopped at the mirror taking selfie on her way to shower. I stood there watching then she unbuttoned my pants and dropped to her knee to give me a BBBJ. I was lying on my bed waiting. She came out of the shower and go straight to blowjob, then she took the vibrator out of the drawer and used it on herself while giving me the blowjob. After sex, we ordered pizza, and the pizza came in 20 minutes. I also have a bottle Malbec from Argentina which I also had it delivered. It costs about 10 USD in total. The same bottle is about 35 in a high-end steakhouse here. Her cost is about 90 USD and she is already expensive but is still much undervalued. A trio with others will only cost a little more. She is hot and is like a trophy, that is the main reason I see her but I am not into her.

The nice things about Medellin is you can get EVERYTIHING delivered if you know what I mean. They can deliver commonly used food items in 10 minutes. There is a huge working girl catalog that they call Facebook here. Haha, It's unmatched anywhere in the world except maybe Thailand. You can get a private chief or housekeepers easily as well and that is not something Thailand can match. For this lifestyle and custo benefcio, Medellin is close to the top. The only thing is that this is not a turnkey approach like other places that have been mentioned.

Nounce

01-14-24, 11:19

.... There is a huge working girl catalog that they call Facebook here. ....The other day I found a 19 yr old who wants to become a famous DJ and she practices all day everyday. I don't even know if she has been with a gringo or not. I guess she is new because she readily accepted a low price. She came and put on a DJ show for me. Her hand job was awesome. I wondered if it has anything to do with her being a DJ. The sex is unremarkable.

CenTexCrash

01-15-24, 05:01

Tried to research, but nothing came up. Any websites? Thanks.Baires Girls dot net is best directory for Buenos Aires. Many girls are tied to a possibly affiliated review thread ForoXP.

In my July 2019 trip:

-Girls operate out of their own apartment flats. Where you meet them as where they live eat and sleep at night.

-Some places will have two girls or a mamasan with full lineup to pick out.

-50/50 the girl is local Argentinean or a Paraguayan working illegally on a tourist visa.

-Paraguayans are more open minded, almost every PY girl CIM was offered. Some do anal. Some even off record barebacked.

-30 minutes 1 pop or 60 minutes 2 pops.

-they do watch the clock if you were told 2 pm and you show up at 2:10 pm you get a 50 minute session as she has her next dude coming at 3 pm.

-Pretty much daytime M-F 9 am-11 pm, some work Saturdays. Almost zero options on Sundays (that's a common theme across Latin America).

-key terms to look in their featured services offered in Baires listing "bucal sin globito" =BBBJ "servicio completo" =anal on menu.

-Recently 2023 peeked Baires Girls within days after their election Milei sworn in, noticed many girls already quoting rates in USD instead of ARGP.

-You can also try Tinder / Seeking for pro-am talent.

XXL

01-15-24, 06:25

Baires Girls dot net is best directory for Buenos Aires. Many girls are tied to a possibly affiliated review thread ForoXP.

In my July 2019 trip:

-Girls operate out of their own apartment flats. Where you meet them as where they live eat and sleep at night.

-Some places will have two girls or a mamasan with full lineup to pick out.

-50/50 the girl is local Argentinean or a Paraguayan working illegally on a tourist visa.

-Paraguayans are more open minded, almost every PY girl CIM was offered. Some do anal. Some even off record barebacked.

-30 minutes 1 pop or 60 minutes 2 pops.

-they do watch the clock if you were told 2 pm and you show up at 2:10 pm you get a 50 minute session as she has her next dude coming at 3 pm.

-Pretty much daytime M-F 9 am-11 pm, some work Saturdays. Almost zero options on Sundays (that's a common theme across Latin America).

-key terms to look in their featured services offered in Baires listing "bucal sin globito" =BBBJ "servicio completo" =anal on menu.

-Recently 2023 peeked Baires Girls within days after their election Milei sworn in, noticed many girls already quoting rates in USD instead of ARGP.

-You can also try Tinder / Seeking for pro-am talent.Very useful post thank you. Sticky!

Houston Player

01-15-24, 07:15

That is basically my life here in Medellin. Haha.

The nice things about Medellin is you can get EVERYTIHING delivered if you know what I mean. They can deliver commonly used food items in 10 minutes. There is a huge working girl catalog that they call Facebook here. Haha, It's unmatched anywhere in the world except maybe Thailand. You can get a private chief or housekeepers easily as well and that is not something Thailand can match. For this lifestyle and custo benefcio, Medellin is close to the top. The only thing is that this is not a turnkey approach like other places that have been mentioned.You can get a private chief or housekeepers easily as well and that is not something Thailand can match. This statement is not true. This is easily matched in Thailand and matched very cheaply.

I won't post more about it here in the Sao Paulo thread but if someone wants to start this topic in a Thailand thread, I will happily post details.

Kib123

01-15-24, 07:35

Hello fellow mongers,

I will be in SP in about a month and would like to sample the local talents. Wanted to know if any have used splove https://splove.com.br/.

They have a great videos of the ladies. Wanted to know if these are clinicas or do they also do outcall to your hotels? Any reports is greatly appreciated.

TY.Never had what qualifies as a good experience, and most quote north of 600 per hour (plus uber), maybe the poorest price-value ration in SP. Besides, you need to jump through a lot of hoops with most demanding photo, real name or some other info I would not share with a hooker.

I also hate fake titties, so get very slim pickings there once I filter out silicone. By the way, SPLove, Clubmodel, etc, are essentially mirrors of each other.

Batraaa

01-15-24, 17:09

That is basically my life here in Medellin. Haha.

Tonight, the girl arrived at my apartment at 6:30 PM. I usually have them come later during weekdays. She has been bugging to see me for a couple of weeks. She is very pretty, and she is in love with herself so she constantly taking selfie everywhere. The first thing she did when she got in my apartment was went to the balcony and asked me to take pictures of her before I messed up her look. LOL. She stopped at the mirror taking selfie on her way to shower. I stood there watching then she unbuttoned my pants and dropped to her knee to give me a BBBJ. I was lying on my bed waiting. She came out of the shower and go straight to blowjob, then she took the vibrator out of the drawer and used it on herself while giving me the blowjob. After sex, we ordered pizza, and the pizza came in 20 minutes. I also have a bottle Malbec from Argentina which I also had it delivered. It costs about 10 USD in total. The same bottle is about 35 in a high-end steakhouse here. Her cost is about 90 USD and she is already expensive but is still much undervalued. A trio with others will only cost a little more. She is hot and is like a trophy, that is the main reason I see her but I am not into her.

The nice things about Medellin is you can get EVERYTIHING delivered if you know what I mean. They can deliver commonly used food items in 10 minutes. There is a huge working girl catalog that they call Facebook here. Haha, It's unmatched anywhere in the world except maybe Thailand. You can get a private chief or housekeepers easily as well and that is not something Thailand can match. For this lifestyle and custo benefcio, Medellin is close to the top. The only thing is that this is not a turnkey approach like other places that have been mentioned.How do I get this catalog of girls in Medellin? Will be in Medellin mid Feb. So could use your help: the.

Knowledge

01-15-24, 23:59

You could try asking in the Medelllin group.

How do I get this catalog of girls in Medellin? Will be in Medellin mid Feb. So could use your help: the.

Nounce

01-16-24, 16:42

You can get a private chief or housekeepers easily as well and that is not something Thailand can match. This statement is not true. This is easily matched in Thailand and matched very cheaply.....In this context, I am talking about the convenience and easiness for a tourist to get it based on my own observation. This is one example, the manager or the housekeeper of the majority of the places that I have stayed are available as a driver, or as a guide for a cost. They are just there, like the Rappi can deliver in 10 minutes.

It is not the right comparison for me to compare a city to a country. My BBFS comparison is wrong too because it did not compare the same type of establishments. BBFS is difficult in clubs or casas in Medellin too so that is the same as Sao Paulo. I mentioned it because my observation is that allowing BBFS does not mean anal is automatic.

There is one guy recently reported that he got offered to do anal left and right in Medellin. That is his experience but that is completely different from mine. There is another regular poster saying he only does BBFS so his rate is basically 100% but he looks for it and I don't.

I think the "best" for me is the place with people that I can make best connection with that provides lasting memory. Sometimes it only takes one person or one girl in this case.

Nounce

01-16-24, 16:45

How do I get this catalog of girls in Medellin? Will be in Medellin mid Feb. So could use your help: the.Read this post. Add her friends but DO NOT add her.

Find her on Facebook. ....

DonMoscow

01-16-24, 17:33

Which Moema clinicas are owned by the same owner?

I remember reading it in the past, but can't find it.

FlowState985

01-16-24, 20:03

Which Moema clinicas are owned by the same owner?

I remember reading it in the past, but can't find it.Prime, Enjoy spa, Miruna, Chanes 57,101 Morumbi. He also own a bar / restaurant opposite of Prime.

Kib123

01-17-24, 06:11

Just wrapped up another SP pilgrimage. Had a blast as always, some clinica experiences that could be useful to those currently in SP:

Prime:

Visited multiple times, standouts GFEs were Gabriela (high energy performer, great IOP) and Angela (hot Mulata, professional grade BJ and excellent IOP, really loves sex, and speaks English. She would be the one to take home to mama this trip).

Honorable mention was Larinha, tiny and skinny, a bit too business-like initially, but opened up to good GFE later. Can really take a pounding. Learned later she is actually a pornstar (Larinha Small, for those who wish to google her for research purposes). We became buddies on my frequent visits. Only in Brazil where you get to bang pornstars on the cheap.

Unfortunately my worst experience was also at this place from Maya, big titties, pretty face, but terrible delivery, no GFE, and CBJ to boot.

Anavrin:

I think I have banged most of their current lineup. The best was Livia (excellent GFE, also takes CIM).

Isis is very hot, and delivers pretty good GFE but is just not that skilled.

Jessica and Clara were decent.

Luiza was the weakest of the ones I sessioned with, decent IOP, but no GFE.

Kin Center:

Slim pickings when I was there, should have walked away but decided not to waste the trip. Chose Rebecca, weak delivery.

Enjoy:

Young slender hottie called Nicole, excellent GFE and IOP.

Unique:

Havena. Excellent in every way, one of the best this trip.

Lorena. Best deepthroat and overall BJ quality this trip, otherwise average.

Indy:

Bad timing, too many mongers waiting and weak selection, so I left.

Reserva Lux:

First time chose Indyara, bubbly negra with large titties. Very good GFE.

Next time I made the mistake of having the house recommend. Ended up with Harine, mature lady, weak performance.

Important lesson: out of at least 5 house recommendations so far, only 1 ever met or exceeded expectation. It is wise never to trust the house to pick for you.

Club 57:

Ended up with Paola, and realized in the room that I had sessioned with her at another clinica. Decent delivery but I wouldn't repeat unless in a pinch.

Spa Mix (off Rua Pamplona) - not well organized, expensive (relatively), and forgettable experience.

Points to note: 57, Prime, Miruna, Enjoy charge 300 per h; the others charge 240-250/ h. Anavrin charges 270/ h, whereas Spa Mix charges 400/ h.

Happy mongering my friends!

Turgid

01-17-24, 14:07

..........Happy mongering my friends!Thanks for this good trip report.

The Critic

01-18-24, 07:30

Just wrapped up another SP pilgrimage. Had a blast as always, some clinica experiences that could be useful to those currently in SP:Outstanding Post. Good useful information.

Thanks.

MRusa007

01-20-24, 05:50

DanielMatt

01-22-24, 06:13

Dollars

01-22-24, 19:34

We are making a trip to in the next few months and our goal is to venture to Curitiba. Have no clue other than (Sense) and the Curitiba page is dead for ages hence posting here.

4 days Friday thru Monday = Curitiba, Monday to Thursday = Rio, then Friday to Monday = SP. 10 day trip.

How can we make Curitiba a success. Promise to come back and give a detailed Trip report.

Any help and guidance? We prefer clubs like Sense, but also smaller places that has 5-8 garotas, or massage clubs, or independents.You have been asking this same question all over the Brazil forum. The reason you have not had a response is because we want people like you to utilize the wealth of information ALREADY housed here in the forum. Just use the search function at the top right hand side of the forum. Type in your key words or better yet go to the Curitiba folder in the Brazil section.

Nounce

01-24-24, 02:41

I am planning to make a trip to SP Feb 9 -- Feb 20, and I found most days overlap with SP carnival dates. I am afraid if those clinics and clubs are bad and don't have many girls during the carnival days. Do you have experiences there during carnival time? Is it bad?I was there for a few days during carnival. Went to a couple of block parties. Then were very small so I doubt it will affect the clinica operations.

Axel Heyst

01-24-24, 15:42

I am planning to make a trip to SP Feb 9 -- Feb 20, and I found most days overlap with SP carnival dates. I am afraid if those clinics and clubs are bad and don't have many girls during the carnival days. Do you have experiences there during carnival time? Is it bad?DM, Sao Paulo ain't Rio, so while there is some carnival stuff going on somewhere in the big city, you will not be affected by it or even notice it unless you want to seek it out.

I had a very good time at both Scandallo & Bomboa during Carnival 2022. I remember watching the action on a local TV station in Bomboa's restaurant while I was having dinner with a very nice gal. Nobody in the place seemed to care much. It was no big deal. The next night over in Scandallo, I met a stunner who had come up from Curitiba. She was fucking amazing.

So, there is no shortage of girls in either SP club on any night during Carnival. And the clinicas were all open as well during their regular business hours. I would go so far as to say that even if you preferred RJ over SP, which I do not, KKK, SP IMHO is the place to be during Carnival unless you are into and want to participate in the madness.

Explorer8939

01-24-24, 15:56

I am looking for a strip club in the city center. I am taking a Thai lady with me, so cannot go to a prive or a terminal.

I did go once to a Sao Paulo strip club, but it was so long ago that I don't know where it was. IIRC, it was PG-13 and expensive.

HiddenEye

01-24-24, 16:34

My Curitiba experience is before pandemics. It's a wonderful city and maybe the best planned city in Brasil. Only La Plata in Argentina is better planned.

There was a house very close to the Panoramic Tower, and the free tourist bus took me very close there. So it was a double free ride. I'm not sure if there still that panoramic bus ride every hour starting downtown. The house was more like a bar more than a massage parlor or clinica. Maybe it was too early because I hit the place around 5 pm in a very cloudy winter afternoon and there were few girls there. Didn't session.

The place I did go several times in a week was the Casanova club where talent was fine. An outstanding tall native-afro kind brazilian girl at the place I sessioned at least twice. It started to feel like it was IOP because we had lunch the Santo Antonio day, being Santo Antonio like the brazilian cupid. I left Brasil few days later.

Didn't reply before because as always I report with pics and it took time to find them on the archive. So it's not my crazy imagination only sweetening my report.

We are making a trip to in the next few months and our goal is to venture to Curitiba. Have no clue other than (Sense) and the Curitiba page is dead for ages hence posting here.

4 days Friday thru Monday = Curitiba, Monday to Thursday = Rio, then Friday to Monday = SP. 10 day trip.

How can we make Curitiba a success. Promise to come back and give a detailed Trip report.

Any help and guidance? We prefer clubs like Sense, but also smaller places that has 5-8 garotas, or massage clubs, or independents.

HiddenEye

01-25-24, 01:26

Bomboa 222 club is an american bar, girls perform strip shows regularly for clients.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SLkuR3az6E

I am looking for a strip club in the city center. I am taking a Thai lady with me, so cannot go to a prive or a terminal.

I did go once to a Sao Paulo strip club, but it was so long ago that I don't know where it was. IIRC, it was PG-13 and expensive.

DustyRode

01-25-24, 03:28

Bomboa 222 club is an american bar, girls perform strip shows regularly for clients.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SLkuR3az6EBomboa is a nice, relaxing club with a variety of girls. I had a friend with me and we chatted with some girls who stopped by the table and sat down with us. The girls were not pushy but they convinced me to do more than talk. I took a couple of the girls upstairs to a large room with a bathroom, shower, and a mirror over the bed. I would consider the girls to be 7's and up. After all was said and done I paid the girls (can't remember the price) and the waiter who asked for a tip while they were giving me the bill.

I am hoping to get back there some day in the future. It was worth the trip.

CatBert55

01-25-24, 04:21

Explorer8939

01-25-24, 11:33

Bomboa 222 club is an american bar, girls perform strip shows regularly for clients.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SLkuR3az6EI will check it out, lots like a good place for a Thai lady to go.

Axel Heyst

01-25-24, 14:06

I will check it out, lots like a good place for a Thai lady to go.Yeah, I have occasionally seen some wild stuff in Bomboa with girls thrusting their pussies onto willing customer's faces. KKK. See if any of the Bomboa girls are willing to bisexual 3-way with you and your Thai chick. It is a good sign if they are willing to make out with your girl in the lounge area.

Note: I have done a couple of spontaneous 3-ways in Bomboa, and although they were enjoyable, they were Not full-on bisexual trysts, so I no longer go for that item in Bomboa preferring instead solo 2-fers. To date, I have had only 2 honest to goodness bisexual menage a trois experiences in SP. One was with my favorite Scandallo girl who I currently spend roughly 40% of my time with and the other was with a Bomboa girl who I was seeing semi-regularly outside of the club. In other words, it took me a little time to find the right girls who were genuinely up for it in the right way.

Axel Heyst

01-25-24, 17:30

Personally, I prefer Bomboas over Scandellos in terms of the overall experience. I enjoy the supper club atmosphere of Bomboa over the nightclub vibe of Scandellos. While it's true the overall number of tier 1 girls at Scandellos is much higher than Bomboa, I can usually find what I need at Bomboas. Plus I think the staff at Bomboas is much friendlier.I say the more boates the better. That is why I like going to Bahamas and even Cafe Photo occasionally as well. But when I am kind of looking for a Tier 1 girl, I head to Scandallo. I say kind of because many a time a friendly, sexy, tier 2, girl next door type can catch my eye at Scandallo and well that's that. KKK. The thing about Bomboa is they don't have very many Tier 1's if any. They just don't, so when I go to Bamboa I KNOW ahead of time I am going to end up with a friendly, sexy Tier 2 and there is nothing wrong with that. I like it. But me be clear, an evening at Bomboa will cost the same as an evening with a Tier 2 in Scandallo. It is the Scandallo Tier 1's that ask and get the 4-digit numbers.

The atmosphere in both places is very good as far as I am concerned. Scandallo is high class all the way and has a better restaurant and multiple bars including my favorite, the outdoor patio bar. Bomboa is high class too and in its own way and very friendly. I have my favorite Bomboa waiter, who is excellent, and he takes real good care of me, for example he knows where I like to sit and what I like to drink and when: coke zero when I am alone and gin & tonic when I am with a girl. I have referred Bomboa many times on these pages as the neighborly bar where everybody knows your name. Ha Ha. But they know my name at Scandallo too, Ha Ha Ha, and the wait staff there is very friendly as well. So, I dig both places, but once again if maximum quality and selection is your thing, then Scandallo wins every time.

HiddenEye

01-26-24, 01:56

I like much more new Bomboa's rooms than Scandallo's. I love the mirrors on the ceiling and walls in Bomboa.

Important to see the final bill for every place. I'm sometimes impressed by how much I spend in Bomboa at the very end. Almost as expensive as Scandallo and more expensive than Cafe Photo.

In Scandallo no one will ask a tip unless you give it.

Personally, I prefer Bomboas over Scandellos in terms of the overall experience. I enjoy the supper club atmosphere of Bomboa over the nightclub vibe of Scandellos. While it's true the overall number of tier 1 girls at Scandellos is much higher than Bomboa, I can usually find what I need at Bomboas. Plus I think the staff at Bomboas is much friendlier.

SoberHans69

01-26-24, 05:41

Arrived today and didn't realise it was a holiday here in Sao Paulo.

Didn't make it to a clinica today but just left Casarao. Never been to Scandallo and don't intend to, personally I won't pay that much for p*ssy and ignorance is bliss but there's more than enough hot girls for my tastes in Casarao for me.

Was at least 10 girls I would have taken in my short time there and ended up with a hot blonde from Sao Paulo. There was hot blondes, brunettes, mixed race girls, few hot black girls and everything in between.

Plan on going to Abbobora tomorrow.

ChickySat

01-26-24, 19:10

Hello All,

I'm planning my trip for week of 2/11. Like to know see anyone planning to be around same time. Looking for wingman to venture together.

First time to SP. Been to Medellin / Rio before.

Vegaboind in Rio has better guide, list and map for all places. Wanted to know if we have something complied for SP. List of all places and composed google map link will help. Did RTFF but didn't find such list here.

DM me if you want to connect. Thank you in advance.

Knowledge

01-26-24, 20:24

You and I see eye to eye on all of this. Abbobora and the like are about as high up the food chain I've been without later feeling like a chump when I'm with a girl at a place that costs half as much or less and I leave feeling as fully satisfied as after I leave higher end venues. I would probably see it differently if I didn't mind staying up half the night.

Arrived today and didn't realise it was a holiday here in Sao Paulo.

Didn't make it to a clinica today but just left Casarao. Never been to Scandallo and don't intend to, personally I won't pay that much for p*ssy and ignorance is bliss but there's more than enough hot girls for my tastes in Casarao for me.

Was at least 10 girls I would have taken in my short time there and ended up with a hot blonde from Sao Paulo. There was hot blondes, brunettes, mixed race girls, few hot black girls and everything in between.

Plan on going to Abbobora tomorrow.

Azurey

01-27-24, 19:39

SoberHans69

01-28-24, 20:18

Had a session with Jennifer in Abbobora yesterday. It was my first disappointing session there tbh, wasn't bad but not up to their high standards.

Later on, I took a mulatta called Debra from Casarao for short time. She's caramel coloured, really cute face and amazing body (It was a welcome surprise that her tits and ass were natural, god bless Brazil).

Really good session for 300 reals.

One of the things I don't understand about Brazil is that despite the fitness scene seeming to be huge here and there being loads of gyms, huge health food sections in supermarkets and loads of health food stores etc, pretty much everyone seems to smoke cigarettes.

HiddenEye

01-29-24, 15:57

The hour of the night you want to close the deal is a determining factor.

If you negotiate an overnite at 10 pm to a 8+ girl she will ask for the rates you mention. It will be different if the negotiation happens at 3-4 am, and even more different if it was a slow night (no client).

I've got fantastic offers, I mean it, closing deals at the very end of the night, at all high end clubs. No matter which club, girls will be liberated at 3 am - 3:30 am.

Patience pays off.

Long time forum member but this is my first post. Finally made my time to Sao Paulo. Last night I went to Scandallo, absolutely the best place I have ever been to. I understand most of the girls would settle for 1000 r for going upstairs. What about the overnight pricing? I asked a few and get quoted 3 k - 4 k real, is this normal? I did bargaining with one girl I really liked but she would not drop her price below 2800, I remember there was one forum member mentioned somewhere 2 k - 2. 5 k for overtnight. Just want to have some feedback.

Anaggie

01-29-24, 18:16

SoberHans69

01-29-24, 20:46

Went to Casarao again last night and had a good session with a thicc brunette called Roberta. Thicc but without any excess fat, God bless the Brasileira bodies.

If anyone has any solid contacts for party favours, please inbox me. Usually ask the ladies, which usually works, but struck out so far.

Axel Heyst

01-29-24, 23:01

Another tip is to talk to multiple girls as the night progresses. The others will see you talking to other girls and might lower their price as the evening continues.One's vibe changes after getting your dick wet with the 1st girl of the night. You are more confident and surer of yourself, less horny (needy), your attitude is more take it or leave it baby; ie the big brain takes over and I swear to God the girls can smell the difference. KKK. The stunner who earlier might have insisted on 2000 and gone no lower is now willing to go upstairs with you for 1000 or less. This is one of the main reasons I am really into the possibilities of 2-fers and sticking around Scandallo. It is almost like after my 1st girl, the evening is just begun.

CoolGregg

01-30-24, 02:42

KilledSoul

01-30-24, 03:07

One of the things I don't understand about Brazil is that despite the fitness scene seeming to be huge here and there being loads of gyms, huge health food sections in supermarkets and loads of health food stores etc, pretty much everyone seems to smoke cigarettes.Smoking actually helps with food cravings and maintaining weight.

Steve 9696

01-30-24, 03:19

Hello Amigos. I am thinking to explore out skirt of Sao Paulo. Like within 3 hours of one way drive time.

Has any one had a good experience exploring into small cities, some time you may get lucky to have semi pro or novia.

Is there a good option in Sorocaba or in Campinas? As far as clinicas and Photoacomphate site.

Ribeirao Preto seems very far.Check out the Campinas thread. I went to Fazendinha there years ago at night and had a great time. I recently talked to a board member who was there for the daytime poolside bikini and topless party and he recommended. I am thinking of a pilgrimage myself. About 1. 5 hours from SP.

Rahsta

01-30-24, 05:18

Rahsta

01-30-24, 05:25

I say the more boates the better. That is why I like going to Bahamas and even Cafe Photo occasionally as well. But when I am kind of looking for a Tier 1 girl, I head to Scandallo. I say kind of because many a time a friendly, sexy, tier 2, girl next door type can catch my eye at Scandallo and well that's that. KKK. The thing about Bomboa is they don't have very many Tier 1's if any. They just don't, so when I go to Bamboa I KNOW ahead of time I am going to end up with a friendly, sexy Tier 2 and there is nothing wrong with that. I like it. But me be clear, an evening at Bomboa will cost the same as an evening with a Tier 2 in Scandallo. It is the Scandallo Tier 1's that ask and get the 4-digit numbers.

The atmosphere in both places is very good as far as I am concerned. Scandallo is high class all the way and has a better restaurant and multiple bars including my favorite, the outdoor patio bar. Bomboa is high class too and in its own way and very friendly. I have my favorite Bomboa waiter, who is excellent, and he takes real good care of me, for example he knows where I like to sit and what I like to drink and when: coke zero when I am alone and gin & tonic when I am with a girl. I have referred Bomboa many times on these pages as the neighborly bar where everybody knows your name. Ha Ha. But they know my name at Scandallo too, Ha Ha Ha, and the wait staff there is very friendly as well. So, I dig both places, but once again if maximum quality and selection is your thing, then Scandallo wins every time.Yes, I like both places also. The staff is very friendly at both spots. Scandolla is like a big club and Bomboa has a more lounge vibe.

Anaggie

01-30-24, 17:44

One's vibe changes after getting your dick wet with the 1st girl of the night. You are more confident and surer of yourself, less horny (needy), your attitude is more take it or leave it baby; ie the big brain takes over and I swear to God the girls can smell the difference. KKK. The stunner who earlier might have insisted on 2000 and gone no lower is now willing to go upstairs with you for 1000 or less. This is one of the main reasons I am really into the possibilities of 2-fers and sticking around Scandallo. It is almost like after my 1st girl, the evening is just begun.Very true. I think this time I am going to try to get it out of my system in Rio the night before, or at the hotel in SP in the afternoon before heading to Scandello on Thursday evening.

Axel Heyst

01-30-24, 21:39

Very true. I think this time I am going to try to get it out of my system in Rio the night before, or at the hotel in SP in the afternoon before heading to Scandello on Thursday evening.Another worthwhile approach to get into the right vibe is to take in a clinica in the afternoon, and hit Scandallo or different boate in the evening.

Abbaboro is my favorite regular SP clinica (360 br per session with 200 for the girl /160 for the house on CC), but lately I have been exploring the higher end boutique clinicas like the Palms, Sharon and Taj Mahal.

The Palms is easily my favorite clinica in this latter category. They have boate quality girls and luxurious, spa like rooms. There is no lineup, unfortunately, so customers must make their selection from highly photoshopped pics. But despite this handicap, I have met some very attractive, boate quality girls at this particular casa and I recommend it.

The rate at the Palms is high (750 br with 350 br to the girl and 400 to the house). Ouch. It is the highest rate of all SP clinicas. I think Sharon is 650 br and the Taj is about the same or maybe a little less. The best thing to do is contact the clinica about 90 minutes before you think you might want to go (whatsapp) and they will send you pics of their available girls from which you can make an appointment if you want. Up to you.

Good hunting,

A. H.

SoberHans69

01-31-24, 01:29

Can anyone recommend anywhere to watch the UFC on Saturday?

MRusa007

01-31-24, 06:00

You have been asking this same question all over the Brazil forum. The reason you have not had a response is because we want people like you to utilize the wealth of information ALREADY housed here in the forum. Just use the search function at the top right hand side of the forum. Type in your key words or better yet go to the Curitiba folder in the Brazil section.Thank you for your response yet of no help to the information I seeked. I have used this site for years together and ofcourse, I have read the website. The Curitiba folder / site is very quiet and dated information. Hence seeking help. Instead of helping you just gave a very condescending reply which was useless to me. I am sorry to say that. If you knew what to do in Curitiba or places of interest, share it. If you don't. Just go to the next post instead of heavy-handed advise. What made you think I didn't read the folder. I just didn't find any guidance after spending hours on it already and hence the post. My assumption is. Posting and asking help is "one" of the reasons this forum exists.

Knowledge

01-31-24, 15:11

I usually set my VPN to my home country (Colombia) and open the web page or application for ESPN or whatever other provider is showing what I want to see. There are sports bars around town. If football matches are happening during UFC you might have a hard time getting the TVs changed to show it.

Can anyone recommend anywhere to watch the UFC on Saturday?

HiddenEye

01-31-24, 16:27

If you want to see it in a club, any Scandallo or Bomboa have area for that and big LCDs. Bomboa second floor I believe is better this time because it's an american bar. Scandallo restaurant is maybe too classy for UFC.

If you want to enjoy with locals and civilians, the hundred+ bars in Vila Madalena is the place. There is a metro station a few blocks from there.

Any Brazilian star in the fight list?

Can anyone recommend anywhere to watch the UFC on Saturday?

Steve 9696

01-31-24, 21:35

Need some advice. I am an experienced SP guy and like high end but haven't done the scene before 11 pm much. So I am really a nighttime guy. Scandallo. Casarao. Bomboa. Of the clinicas I tried I like Abobora best.

But this upcoming trip I may explore daytime a bit also at the very least on my last day when I have to leave for GRU at 7 PM.

I suppose the Palms or Sharon might be a good option? Should I try Scandallo that early like go early afternoon and be ready to wrap up by 630? Other ideas? I did book my room to include the night of my flight so I could always find a girl a day or two before and do her again on flight day at my hotel. So I have some thoughts. But I’d love to hear ur thoughts. Thx.

Anaggie

01-31-24, 21:41

Went to Scandello on a Monday afternoon around 2 pm as I had to check out of the hotel and my flight was at 10:30 PM to come back home.

I took my suitcase and my backpack with me to Scandello. Before entry they thoroughly check your bags. Entry was 300 all consumable, and they have a space to store your luggage. It is very secure and you can leave all your valuables with them. They even gave me a Brazilian charging plug my iPhone cable so I could charge it inside the club.

Upon entry the restaurant, small patio and the bar is open. Everything else is closed. There were about 15 to 20 girls walking around and they ranged from 6.

Hey Steve9696 . My report from an afternoon at Scandello.

SoberHans69

01-31-24, 21:43

Thanks Knowledge and HiddenEye, appreciate the replies.

Co main event has Mocaino in it who is Brazilian. Not a big name but really fun fighter to watch, he's fighting Dober who is very exciting too.

Will probably head over to Vila Madalena to try and watch it.

Steve 9696

01-31-24, 22:09

Hey Steve9696 . My report from an afternoon at Scandello.Super helpful as always A. Luv this forum.

SoberHans69

01-31-24, 22:15

Took a black stunner from Casarao last night who I've had my eye on past few nights. Turns out she was born in Nigeria but moved to Brazil.

300 for ST and great performance.

Today I took Pietra from 57 Friends and had a good 30 minute session for 220.

Nowhere comes close to Brazil in terms of mongering IMO.

DonMoscow

02-03-24, 19:31

Does 57 friends and brooklin offer florista?

GattoRojo

02-04-24, 22:07

I am heading to SP mid February (after Carnival) and have been doing a lot of reading here on the various entertainment I can explore while there. This is a super long post. Sorry about that.

For context, I am a middle-aged American gringo. I have never been to Brazil and only have basic polite phrases in Portuguese, but can manage in French / Spanish.

I've hobbied in the US, UK, Germany, France, Poland, and Japan. I appreciate the various cultures of service. I hate the American style AMP, really like Artemis FKK, and also dug the BJ-only bars I found in Tokyo.

It sounds like the two main types of hobbying in Brazil are Clinicas and Clubs. I prefer an incall situation, so that's great for me.

As I plan my trip, I have a couple of questions:

Where to stay?

I assume the balance of my adventures will be 60/40 clinicas / clubs due to cost. Is there an neighborhood or area that makes sense to stay to reduce the Uber cost?

Dress Code?

I am pretty casual. I won't be bringing dress clothes. I assume that's not a problem in the clinicas, but maybe I will feel out of place in clubs?

Massage?

Honestly, I would almost always prefer a great massage + happy ending over a mediocre full service session. It sounds to me like the culture in Brazil emphasizes the "Illusion of Passion" so maybe full service will be the thing, but I really don't want to go somewhere expecting a good massage only to get a US-style "rub-and-tug". Are there places that are better suited for a real massage+?

Fake asses.

I. am not into this, but from the few escort pages I have looked at. There seem to be a LOT of surgically enhanced asses. Can someone explain the appeal?

Pricing.

So, it sounds like the clubs charge a cover charge that is inclusive of a few drinks. But while 300 brl seems fine. Do they tell you how much things cost, or do you just have to wing it and hope you are covered or have enough remaining cash when you leave? As for play pricing. It sounds like I should expect club girls to quote me as high as 2500 brl, but even in the high end places, the most I should pay is 1000 brl, and then only for a top tier girl. I am fine saying no to girls. I am so used to the US strip club hustle. What is standard pricing at clinicas?

Duration?

At the clubs, is it per pop or by time? Most scenes I have explored seem to be very focused on rapid turnover (which I get as a business model), but some places in Japan and the UK have a more time-focused approach which means multiple pops are available and also you don't feel like your partner is rushing you. I like a good long BJ / HJ, and hate it when a girl just starts cranking away for the pop instead of focusing on the tease / build up.

Post-op Trans?

I have never been somewhere where this is a thing, but it seems to be mentioned enough in Brazil discussions that I feel like I should be better educated. Do Clinicas / clubs employ post-op providers identifying as female without disclosing it? Or is that something that people seek out? No judgement on my part, but I would rather know and not feel duped or put in an awkward spot.

Any other advice is much appreciated. I plan on taking out cash in-country for the best exchange rate. I am a big guy, but would rather avoid conflict, so if there are areas to avoid or classic scams (like the touts in Tokyo who try to lure you into places) that would be great to know too.

Thanks to everyone for this great community!

Nounce

02-05-24, 04:48

Does 57 friends and brooklin offer florista?57 yes, Brooklyn probably not but you can look at GPG to find out.

Nebulousity

02-05-24, 12:42

I am heading to SP mid February (after Carnival) and have been doing a lot of reading here on the various entertainment I can explore while there.

As I plan my trip, I have a couple of questions
The Moema area is closest to the Clinicas discussed here. SP dress is somewhat like a large US city, locals don't wear shorts and sandals too much. City jeans / no logo T works in Clinicas and Boates. There are low, medium, and high end Clinicas discussed here, all with standardized pricing, ranging from $R150 or so for the low, $R300 for the mid $R800 for the high. The high ones are more likely to start with an OK massage. There are more natural options at all levels of Clinica, you just have to spidy sense it from a quick presentation or set of tablet photos. In almost all cases charge is by time.

SoberHans69

02-05-24, 14:40

The Moema area is closest to the Clinicas discussed here. SP dress is somewhat like a large US city, locals don't wear shorts and sandals too much. City jeans / no logo T works in Clinicas and Boates. There are low, medium, and high end Clinicas discussed here, all with standardized pricing, ranging from $R150 or so for the low, $R300 for the mid $R800 for the high. The high ones are more likely to start with an OK massage. There are more natural options at all levels of Clinica, you just have to spidy sense it from a quick presentation or set of tablet photos. In almost all cases charge is by time.Sorry but I have to disagree on the shorts part. I'm here now and loads of locals are wearing shorts (below middle aged people). That awful fashion of shorts and socks pulled up has made its way over here now.

Nounce

02-05-24, 14:42

I cut this from a picture that I took very recently. I think it depends on weather.

Nebulousity

02-05-24, 15:54

I cut this from a picture that I took very recently. I think it depends on weather.Sorry I should have clarified that I meant: in the Clinicas and Boates, I don't see locals wearing shorts and sandals too much, so from a visitor dress code perspective, jeans and T is probably a bit less of an out of place look.

GattoRojo

02-05-24, 16:42

Sorry I should have clarified that I meant: in the Clinicas and Boates, I don't see locals wearing shorts and sandals too much, so from a visitor dress code perspective, jeans and T is probably a bit less of an out of place look.Thanks! I'm not really a shorts-wearing kind of guy. More jeans and a polo. But if I am going to London or Paris, I know I need to up the game a little with a blazer / overcoat. That's mostly what I was hoping to clarify.

As for the boates. I see that they offer dinners / food. There are strip clubs in the US that also offer food, and it's legitimately one of the grossest things I can think of. Similarly, Artemis in Berlin technically has food as part of your entry fee, but it's. Not good. Do people actually eat at Boates, and is the quality decent / prices ok. Or is it more of a "we technically provide these things so that we are not a brothel" kind of thing? I'm still trying to understand the layout. Particularly as I will be going solo. Is it weird / expensive / advisable to show up at a Boate to have dinner? I'd assume it might be a little less pressure from girls to session with them if you have a plate of food in front of you.

Is there a resource for finding clinicas? I saw a map listed on another forum, but it was behind a paywall and it wasn't clear how current it would be. I have the names of a few gathered from this forum (Palms, Abobora, etc.)

I'll be there for seven days, so plenty of time to explore.

Nounce

02-05-24, 17:10

Sorry I should have clarified that I meant: in the Clinicas and Boates, I don't see locals wearing shorts and sandals too much, so from a visitor dress code perspective, jeans and T is probably a bit less of an out of place look.I am not trying to debate this. It's to share one's perspective and the members should take all posts into account to get a better picture.

I saw many locals wearing shorts in Tangara. I think I have only been to Tangara once last year and once this year. I wear shorts all the time. The only place that I don't wear shorts is Scandallo but I have seen local Asians wearing shorts and sandals there.

TomsDucati

02-05-24, 19:18

I'll be in Sao Paulo Feb 20-24. Send me a pm and we can meet at one of the boates.

I am heading to SP mid February (after Carnival) and have been doing a lot of reading here on the various entertainment I can explore while there. This is a super long post. Sorry about that.

For context, I am a middle-aged American gringo. I have never been to Brazil and only have basic polite phrases in Portuguese, but can manage in French / Spanish.

I've hobbied in the US, UK, Germany, France, Poland, and Japan. I appreciate the various cultures of service. I hate the American style AMP, really like Artemis FKK, and also dug the BJ-only bars I found in Tokyo.

It sounds like the two main types of hobbying in Brazil are Clinicas and Clubs. I prefer an incall situation, so that's great for me.

As I plan my trip, I have a couple of questions:

Where to stay?

I assume the balance of my adventures will be 60/40 clinicas / clubs due to cost. Is there an neighborhood or area that makes sense to stay to reduce the Uber cost?

Dress Code?

I am pretty casual. I won't be bringing dress clothes. I assume that's not a problem in the clinicas, but maybe I will feel out of place in clubs?

Massage?

Honestly, I would almost always prefer a great massage + happy ending over a mediocre full service session. It sounds to me like the culture in Brazil emphasizes the "Illusion of Passion" so maybe full service will be the thing, but I really don't want to go somewhere expecting a good massage only to get a US-style "rub-and-tug". Are there places that are better suited for a real massage+?

Fake asses.

I. am not into this, but from the few escort pages I have looked at. There seem to be a LOT of surgically enhanced asses. Can someone explain the appeal?

Pricing.

So, it sounds like the clubs charge a cover charge that is inclusive of a few drinks. But while 300 brl seems fine. Do they tell you how much things cost, or do you just have to wing it and hope you are covered or have enough remaining cash when you leave? As for play pricing. It sounds like I should expect club girls to quote me as high as 2500 brl, but even in the high end places, the most I should pay is 1000 brl, and then only for a top tier girl. I am fine saying no to girls. I am so used to the US strip club hustle. What is standard pricing at clinicas?

Duration?

At the clubs, is it per pop or by time? Most scenes I have explored seem to be very focused on rapid turnover (which I get as a business model), but some places in Japan and the UK have a more time-focused approach which means multiple pops are available and also you don't feel like your partner is rushing you. I like a good long BJ / HJ, and hate it when a girl just starts cranking away for the pop instead of focusing on the tease / build up.

Post-op Trans?

I have never been somewhere where this is a thing, but it seems to be mentioned enough in Brazil discussions that I feel like I should be better educated. Do Clinicas / clubs employ post-op providers identifying as female without disclosing it? Or is that something that people seek out? No judgement on my part, but I would rather know and not feel duped or put in an awkward spot.

Any other advice is much appreciated. I plan on taking out cash in-country for the best exchange rate. I am a big guy, but would rather avoid conflict, so if there are areas to avoid or classic scams (like the touts in Tokyo who try to lure you into places) that would be great to know too.

Thanks to everyone for this great community!

Axel Heyst

02-05-24, 22:36

Do people actually eat at Boates, and is the quality decent / prices ok.

I'll be there for seven days, so plenty of time to explore.

Is there a resource for finding clinicas? I saw a map listed on another forum, but it was behind a paywall and it wasn't clear how current it would be. I have the names of a few gathered from this forum (Palms, Abobora, etc.)

1) Why don't you RTFF and take note of some of the joints that receive positive reports? Then google the fucking name. Example: Abboboro, Sao Paulo. If you are really feeling industrious, you can make your own Google map.

2) There are many reports on this forum about Boate restaurants. I know because I have written a few of them.

3 a) I am tired of newbie trial ballon comparisons between Boates they know nothing about and (pick one) USA strip clubs, German FKK's, or any other fuck palace somewhere else. This is Brazil. I guarantee you things here are not like the USA or Germany or Thailand, or Mexico. So stop making comparisons to make yourself feel comfortable. Just jump into the pool headfirst. The water is fine.

3 b) Yes; explore, explore, explore SP. That is the only way to find out what you are really looking for and what you like. The search is part of the fun. I am still searching and looking and I just wrapped up approximately 250 days cumulatively speaking in Brazil spread over 6 trips. I envy you your first afternoon roaming around Moema and your first couple of nights in the Boates. Remember this: all the plans you may have made prior to arrival will go out the window after your first afternoon and your first night on the town. 7 nights or whatever the duration of your 1st trip will only whet your appetite for more adventures to come.

4) Dress Code? Ha Ha. SP is all about the weather. If it is warm out, a clean nice-looking t-shirt, jeans, and running shoes are fine, but it can get chilly at night, so pack a good fall jacket in your suitcase just in case. No boate girl will look down on you for wearing a sporty shirt with a collar. Being in shape and having good hygiene is far more important than what you wear.

Robotron

02-06-24, 09:56

Long time forum member but this is my first post. Finally made my time to Sao Paulo. Last night I went to Scandallo, absolutely the best place I have ever been to. I understand most of the girls would settle for 1000 r for going upstairs. What about the overnight pricing? I asked a few and get quoted 3 k - 4 k real, is this normal? I did bargaining with one girl I really liked but she would not drop her price below 2800, I remember there was one forum member mentioned somewhere 2 k - 2. 5 k for overtnight. Just want to have some feedback.This is subjective, probably due to the date being overnight, but why would you goto a foreign country and pay what's equivalent to $300, or even consider $600 USD for one girl?

For the women you were referring to would you honestly say they're not 9's, but 10's and would service you uncovered with GFE?

Considering traveling here. Compared to the rates of 20 to 80 USD per girl in Colombia, what's the average here, or max to consider those girls who think theyre high end?

Nounce

02-06-24, 15:22

This is subjective, probably due to the date being overnight, but why would you goto a foreign country and pay what's equivalent to $300, or even consider $600 USD for one girl?

For the women you were referring to would you honestly say they're not 9's, but 10's and would service you uncovered with GFE?

Considering traveling here. Compared to the rates of 20 to 80 USD per girl in Colombia, what's the average here, or max to consider those girls who think theyre high end?You are making the wrong comparison. You can get cheaper price too, just not at Scandallo. You can't find anything remotely close to Scandallo in Colombia. The more expensive places in Colombia actually have reduced service. You maybe wasting money there even if it is cheaper.

CCRider1008

02-06-24, 16:43

Do providers in SP or Rio provide BBFS (clubs or freelancers)? Can this be negotiated and what is the extra cost.

GattoRojo

02-06-24, 17:16

1) I envy you your first afternoon roaming around Moema and your first couple of nights in the Boates. Remember this: all the plans you may have made prior to arrival will go out the window after your first afternoon and your first night on the town. 7 nights or whatever the duration of your 1st trip will only whet your appetite for more adventures to come.I appreciate the feedback and advice and hear the criticism. To be fair though, I am working my way through the forum. Somewhere between the three pages of cell-phone provider chat and the conversations about Thailand, I just figured I'd write down some questions.

I actually came to the same conclusion and started putting together my own Google Map! It's slow going, but I'm getting a picture of the area now.

I only listed the places I've been to give context that I'm not a full on noob, just new to Brazil. I very much hope that the experiences in Brazil are as different and as varied as I've been able to experience in other places, and come to the forums here to avoid the same-old traps / bad experiences that are everywhere and typically target gringo tourists. I've tried to wing it some places, only to end up getting hit up for tips by a geriatric mamasan. I'll see if I can find your restaurant reviews!

At the moment, I'm thinking of aiming for visits to Abbobora, Prime and Palms, and then depending on my work dinners, a visit to Scandallo for certain, and possibly either Casarao or Bomboa.

Beyond that, I'm mostly going to either be at work, or wandering the Feria Livres in pursuit of Coxhinas.

Steve 9696

02-06-24, 20:24

GattoRojo

02-06-24, 20:54

Just know that the action starts around 11 so it shouldn't interfere with work dinner. Just power thru till 4 or 5 AM. Thanks! 11 pm, eh? I mean, I can swing it, I suppose. I'm not usually a super late-night guy, but on work trips, I am often out until 2 or 3, plus I will have the time zone difference working in my favor. Is that just the boates? I was kind of thinking I'd hit up clinicas in the day-time and then aim for the higher-end experience after dinner.

Cafe Photo is on the "I need to learn more" list.

Axel Heyst

02-06-24, 21:20

I appreciate the feedback and advice and hear the criticism. To be fair though, I am working my way through the forum. Somewhere between the three pages of cell-phone provider chat and the conversations about Thailand, I just figured I'd write down some questions.

I actually came to the same conclusion and started putting together my own Google Map! It's slow going, but I'm getting a picture of the area now.

At the moment, I'm thinking of aiming for visits to Abbobora, Prime and Palms, and then depending on my work dinners, a visit to Scandallo for certain, and possibly either Casarao or Bomboa. I apologize GR if my post came down too hard on you. But just mentioning "strip clubs" in the same paragraph as SP Boates is like pouring nitro glycerin on a barbeque. It sets me on fire. KKK.

There are many outstanding 5-star Steak and Japanese Sushi restaurants in SP. The restaurants in Scandallo and Bomboa cannot match these culinary gems, but the food in these 2 boates is very good nonetheless and you should not hesitate in trying them out especially if you decide to hang around after your 1st session and possibly go a 2nd round with a different girl afterwards.

Your tentative plan sounds like a good starting point, but like I said, all plans go out the window once a trip begins in earnest.

Might throw Cafe Photo in the mix tho I have not been. They have on-site rooms now.

P.S. Casarao and Bomboa are both worthy but totally different. Casarao is a packed narrow bar with two floors. Pretty mixed clientele TBH because it's reasonably priced. Bomboa is like a high end supper club. Both good in different ways. Hey Steve, all the SP Boates have unique ambiences and are very different from one another. Casarao, in particular, is the most un-boate like boate in SP. It operates more like a fast track pick up bar. There is no point in hanging around there after you have found a girl. Just take her to your bed and have fun. I like it occasionally because it is a raw slice of Sao Paulo FL and very inexpensive.

Scandallo, on the other hand, is the high-end class joint of the city with the most honest to goodness lookers and the sexiest tier 2 girl next door types. I love it and I like hanging out there all night. I know you do too. KKK. Bomboa is my 2nd favorite boate and you are absolutely right; it feels like a high-end supper club with friendly and experienced tier 2 type girls (very few tier 1's however) and the wait staff is exemplary.

But you can call me crazy if you want, but I am not a big fan of Cafe Photo. Although they do have a few pretty girls, their initial asking price is higher than comparable quality girls in Scandallo and I do not like the "no approach the customer" rules in this club. Nearby Bahamas is a lot more fun IMHO although on average their girls might not be quite as attractive, they are certainly cheaper. KKK.

Nounce

02-07-24, 00:18

.. am working my way through the forum...I think you will get answer more quickly if your questions are more focused. The food, trans and stuff like that are not that important, and you can find out easily anyway.

For Scandello, and other high end boates, you can get the menu to check out the price. If you are not sure, ask the bartender. It is common in Brazil for a place to give you card upon entry to keep a tab on your purchases. You pay upon exit and they will give you a receipt or the card back so you can use them to leave the checked exited gate / door.

Nounce

02-07-24, 00:21

Do providers in SP or Rio provide BBFS (clubs or freelancers)? Can this be negotiated and what is the extra cost.I don't look for it so I never ask. The default will be covered. This is something between you and the girl. I doubt anyone can give you a definitive answer. Outside of that, BBFS is more often the default and I never have to ask.

Steve 9696

02-07-24, 00:40

I don't look for it so I never ask. The default will be covered. This is something between you and the girl. I doubt anyone can give you a definitive answer. Outside of that, BBFS is more often the default and I never have to ask.Didn't you mean BBBJ?

Steve 9696

02-07-24, 00:44

I think you will get answer more quickly if your questions are more focused. The food, trans and stuff like that are not that important, and you can find out easily anyway.

For Scandello, and other high end boates, you can get the menu to check out the price. If you are not sure, ask the bartender. It is common in Brazil for a place to give you card upon entry to keep a tab on your purchases. You pay upon exit and they will give you a receipt or the card back so you can use them to leave the checked exited gate / door.Be prepared for Scandallo to be astoundingly expensive. And totally worth it. Dont go there with a mind to save a buck. You go there to be king the world and that doesn't come cheap.

One thing to know tho is the alcohol and mixer are charged separately. They do this in Moscow also. So maybe Jack is $15 and a coke $10. So a Jack and Coke is $25 (actually a bit more as I recall). So if you do want to save a little drink your alcohol straight up. But again. Don't go there if a few hundred dollars is a lot of money.

Nounce

02-07-24, 00:45

Didn't you mean BBBJ?BBFS, based on the observation that I never asked for it. I mean if the girl is not from clubs, clinicas or online escorts, then it is different.

Combo

02-07-24, 01:42

You can't find anything remotely close to Scandallo in Colombia.Agreed. Nothing comes close.

Axel Heyst

02-07-24, 04:27

Do providers in SP or Rio provide BBFS (clubs or freelancers)? Can this be negotiated and what is the extra cost.I can only speak with statistical accuracy of Boate, Clinica, Terma and high-end Escort girls and sadly 90% of the girls I have been with have insisted on CFS at least on our 1st time together with only 1 in 30 (3%) of the no's willing to accept a 100 to 200 tip offer to go bareback. BBBJ's are still the default, however. This is the only complaint I have with Brazilian girls. If you are like some of my pals over in the Asian ISG forums, then Brazil is not for you.

Robotron

02-07-24, 05:20

Agreed. Nothing comes close.What does it have exactly? I read on a different forum a guy gave one girl from there 5000 USD for the week, and pointed out he only did CBJ / CFS. I don't bar hop or goto clubs even in the states, so no experience and outfit. What would be the expectation to go or do the girls make it easy for those reserved individuals?

Willie Wonkers

02-07-24, 11:24

Axel Heyst

02-07-24, 13:00

Just know that the action starts around 11 so it shouldn't interfere with work dinner. Just power thru till 4 or 5 AM. Catch a couple hours. Rinse repeat!
I usually arrive at a Boate around 9:30. While I have seen a few superstars just arriving at Scandallo between 10:30 and 11, most of the girls are there by 10. They have to be in order to gain free admission. The courtyard bar and entertainment bar are usually open by 9 except on very slow nights.

Casarao is the late night boate. There is no point in going there before 11:30. I have trouble waiting that long to start my night, thus most of the time, I don't go there, but occasionally I head over there after a 1st night's tryst in Bomboa. I have never gone there after a 1st night's session in Scandallo, however, KKK. There are too many hotties wandering around Scandallo to allow me to leave until I am finished for the evening.

Nounce

02-07-24, 15:11

Thanks! 11 pm, eh? I mean, I can swing it, I suppose. I'm not usually a super late-night guy, but on work trips, I am often out until 2 or 3, plus I will have the time zone difference working in my favor. Is that just the boates? I was kind of thinking I'd hit up clinicas in the day-time and then aim for the higher-end experience after dinner.

Cafe Photo is on the "I need to learn more" list.You have to see it yourself and decide on your own. Or you need to identify with the poster that matches your style.

Scandallo opens at noon with only cafeteria and the bar and the small outdoor patio. There are fewer girls. There is a shift change round 8 or 9 PM. Then the club and the outdoor area will open. The live music in the club area starts around 11 PM for about an hour, then an hour break, then another hour of live music. This is not exact but this gives you an idea of the flow.

I go when I can and don't wait until a specific time. 11 is peak hour and can be packed. Sometimes you can't even find a seat in the restaurant.

Casarao opens at 10 until 5 or 6 in the morning. You don't want to go too early. It is more like casa than a boate because the popular girls fuck multiple guys per night. You can observe near the door, and you can sometimes see experienced mongers wait there and scoop them up right after the girl just have a session. I met a group of expats did exactly that, They would only pay for dry entry, fuck then leave.

Nounce

02-07-24, 15:17

XXL

02-07-24, 15:23

I can only speak with statistical accuracy of Boate, Clinica, Terma and high-end Escort girls and sadly 90% of the girls I have been with have insisted on CFS at least on our 1st time together with only 1 in 30 (3%) of the no's willing to accept a 100 to 200 tip offer to go bareback. BBBJ's are still the default, however. This is the only complaint I have with Brazilian girls. If you are like some of my pals over in the Asian ISG forums, then Brazil is not for you.I'm glad I was not the only one to find getting bareback even with regular girls very difficult in SP. I had a regular of mine stringing me along, agreeing only if I did loads of tests, in the end still refusing. Another regular agreed, only to insist on coitus interruptus later when we were at it. A bit unexpected considering these girls were otherwise happy-go-lucky with forbidden substances ...

A girl I have been in contact with since 2021 was telling me once about a sex night in a dedicated motel with 2 other girls and 1 customer. The price tab for the customer had been 10 thousand euro, including the hotel, the girls, plus xstasy and coke. When I said for that price at least the guy could go bareback she said no. I found this flabbergasting. I thought of all the young pussy I could bareback in Thailand for that kind of money (without xtasy or coke, but with legal cannabis which is also not too bad).

This is definitely not Asia or Africa.

Steve 9696

02-07-24, 16:08

I'm glad I was not the only one to find getting bareback even with regular girls very difficult in SP. I had a regular of mine stringing me along, agreeing only if I did loads of tests, in the end still refusing. Another regular agreed, only to insist on coitus interruptus later when we were at it. A bit unexpected considering these girls were otherwise happy-go-lucky with forbidden substances ...

A girl I have been in contact with since 2021 was telling me once about a sex night in a dedicated motel with 2 other girls and 1 customer. The price tab for the customer had been 10 thousand euro, including the hotel, the girls, plus xstasy and coke. When I said for that price at least the guy could go bareback she said no. I found this flabbergasting. I thought of all the young pussy I could bareback in Thailand for that kind of money (without xtasy or coke, but with legal cannabis which is also not too bad).

This is definitely not Asia or Africa.Well aware this is the SP forum but sometimes worldwide insights are welcome. I agree BBBJ and CFS is the norm for me in Brazil. And works for me. If you want bareback apparently the place to go is Jakarta. Shithole city but apparently lovely and inexpensive ladies and a ton of bareback and CIP if that is your thing. Very active forum.

Steve 9696

02-07-24, 18:29

What does it have exactly? I read on a different forum a guy gave one girl from there 5000 USD for the week, and pointed out he only did CBJ / CFS. I don't bar hop or goto clubs even in the states, so no experience and outfit. What would be the expectation to go or do the girls make it easy for those reserved individuals?Nothing comes close in terms of luxe vibe and number of legit hotties. Imagine the nicest club you have ever been to, with live band and party atmosphere. Add a huge terrace. Add a 3. 5 star hotel attached. Add that every girl in the club wants to fuck you. Voila. Scandallo.

While websites are often misleading, Scandallo's is spot on. This virtual tour will give you an idea.

http://scandallolounge.com.br/tour-virtual/

Note that it’s interactive and u can virtually walk around the club.

GattoRojo

02-07-24, 18:33

I apologize GR if my post came down too hard on you. But just mentioning "strip clubs" in the same paragraph as SP Boates is like pouring nitro glycerin on a barbeque. It sets me on fire. KKK. Not at all, man! You also gave good advice while slapping my wrist, all good! It's your country / city. If anything, it helps me know how to approach it all. Just like knowing how to respectfully approach hobbying in Japan makes all the difference in whether you have a good soapy time or get treated like an "Ugly-American".

I don't mind throwing down some money if it's all in pursuit of a unique experience, and from all accounts, Scandello seems to be just that. I'll have to see what dinners cost when I get there, but at least I know going in that it's not going to be the trash "buffet" that I was worried about. I do like to hang out after a session, if it doesn't feel weird. Sometimes, soloing makes you stand out, and sometimes it doesn't matter. I'll figure it out. Like you say, I'll only know once I'm there.

Casarao opens at 10 until 5 or 6 in the morning. You don't want to go too early. It is more like casa than a boate because the popular girls fuck multiple guys per night. You can observe near the door, and you can sometimes see experienced mongers wait there and scoop them up right after the girl just have a session. I met a group of expats did exactly that, They would only pay for dry entry, fuck then leave.Appreciate both of your insights into Casarao. Sometimes that kind of "immediate action" is fun. I didn't realize that there was a "dry entry" option. I wonder if that will even be offered to a non-Portuguese speaking gringo?

At the end of the day, I think I have a pretty decent idea now of the larger landscape.

Oh! One more thing. I know that taking a cab / Uber to the clubs can incur an extra cost to some Boates. What about leaving? Is it better to walk a few blocks and order a ride? Or is that inviting getting mugged at 3 am?

Krilimag

02-07-24, 20:29

Fellow mongers and others wanted to run this by you all for your thoughts. I am planning a clinica visit and started the WhatsApp chatter. I got into a clinica named Lotus Lounge great looking chicas but when the pricing comes on the responder is quoting me for: 380 reales for the room plus another 400 reales for the therapist. Total of 780 reales for one hour. Is this the norm? Or Lotus Lounge not a clinica?

Meanwhile I have been corresponding with Dubai Spa and also not bad selection of chicas and the pricing scheme is 300 reales for cash or 330 reales for card for the hour. No additional room charges.

Would you experts shed some light into this.

Seems that if there are two charges (girl + room) in clinicas, then it is almost up there like Scandallo.

Any body used Lotus Lounge before?

TY in advance.

Axel Heyst

02-07-24, 20:57

Septimius

02-07-24, 22:11

1) Why don't you RTFF and take note of some of the joints that receive positive reports? Then google the fucking name. Example: Abboboro, Sao Paulo. If you are really feeling industrious, you can make your own Google map.

4) Dress Code? Ha Ha. SP is all about the weather. If it is warm out, a clean nice-looking t-shirt, jeans, and running shoes are fine, but it can get chilly at night, so pack a good fall jacket in your suitcase just in case. No boate girl will look down on you for wearing a sporty shirt with a collar. Being in shape and having good hygiene is far more important than what you wear.Hello there. I've never been to Brazil but I'm planning a trip and have been reading the Rio and San Paulo forums along with General info and places to stay. Most of the information I'm looking for I have found but I still have about 100 pages left until I catch up to the current times! My questions are pretty general and I was wondering about the clothing thing. I'm a shorts guy and hate wearing jeans. While the nicer establishments like Scandallo require a nice shirt and a pair of jeans how about some of the clinicas? Will I stick out like a sore thumb wearing shorts just walking around town? I'm always hot and unless it's below 40 degreesF, I'm good.

My other question is about tips. Now I recall reading on here that tips are not part of the culture in Brazil and that tipping a girl is not required. Do you guys ever tip at restaurants or normal bars for GREAT service? If so what's a normal rate?

My plan is to visit some of the places mentioned on here and dive right in! For me, there's always a certain amount of uncertainty when mongering to new destinations but I'm in love with Brazilian women and I need to check this place out!

Combo

02-08-24, 00:37

What does it have exactly? I read on a different forum a guy gave one girl from there 5000 USD for the week, and pointed out he only did CBJ / CFS. I don't bar hop or goto clubs even in the states, so no experience and outfit. What would be the expectation to go or do the girls make it easy for those reserved individuals?There's no need to spend anywhere close to that money. Also BBBJs are the norm in Brasil, moreso than in Colombia (though you're always best confirming with the chick beforehand). With regard to BBFS, I do not look for it, regardless of the country. The guy you refer to sounds like a sucker.

Nounce

02-08-24, 01:30

...
Oh! One more thing. I know that taking a cab / Uber to the clubs can incur an extra cost to some Boates. What about leaving? Is it better to walk a few blocks and order a ride? Or is that inviting getting mugged at 3 am?That is not something you need to worry about. There is no extra cost. The only thing that you really have to look out for near Casarao is your phone, keep your distance away from people on bicycle.

Nounce

02-08-24, 01:34

...

Any body used Lotus Lounge before?

...That is how the pricing work in high end clinicas. I won't go to Lotus lounge because there is no consistency and even water costs twice as palm, LOL. It's a gamble. You may get a room and a girl like a low price clinica. It's not worth it. I would just to go Scandallo.

Nounce

02-08-24, 01:41

...My other question is about tips. Now I recall reading on here that tips are not part of the culture in Brazil and that tipping a girl is not required. Do you guys ever tip at restaurants or normal bars for GREAT...That is not quite correct. Some restaurants will add 10-13% service charge to your bill. Some will ask you if you want service charge included. You can decline. There is a discussion about tipping at Bombia too.

I don't think there is a dress code requirement at clinicas. I wear shorts all the time, and never have a problem. Some customers may go to clinica during break or after work, then they may be more formal. If one observes that, then one would think that is how a customer should dress.

KilledSoul

02-08-24, 01:51

I'm glad I was not the only one to find getting bareback even with regular girls very difficult in SP. I had a regular of mine stringing me along, agreeing only if I did loads of tests, in the end still refusing.

This is definitely not Asia or Africa.This is the main reason why I will stick to Colombia instead of Brazil as almost all chicas will do bareback after two sessions.

DustyRode

02-08-24, 01:56

SamaRiding

02-08-24, 03:31

Axel Heyst

02-08-24, 03:42

That is how the pricing work in high end clinicas. I won't go to Lotus lounge because there is no consistency and even water costs twice as palm, LOL. It's a gamble. You may get a room and a girl like a low price clinica. It's not worth it. I would just to go Scandallo.The Palms, Taj Mahal, Sharon, & Lotus make up the highend boutique clincias in SP. Sometimes there is a grey area in quality issue which is created mainly because there is no line up in the high price boutique clinicas, only phot shopped pics from which to make a decision, so not all the high end boutique girls that I end up in bed with are the equal to tier 1 or tier 2 Scandallo types and sometimes I have a girl at these boutique casas that is no better in the looks department than a slightly above average girl at Prime or Abboboro, but sometimes I hook up with a real looker and a keeper. That is the gamble when I go to these high-end casas. And the reverse is true as well. Sometimes I have gotten lucky and met a regular clinica girl that is as good as, as attractive as most Bomboa girls and I wonder why she is working in a regular clinica fucking maybe 5 guys a day and getting only 200 BR per session. I don't know.

But I like both types of clinicas and the boates. That is the choice part of the equation. Here is a rough breakdown of the situation: Abboboro, my favorite regular place is 360 BR on the credit card of which the girl gets 200 BR. I believe it is the most expensive of the regular clinicas. I like it because I can usually find a girl that looks doable to very pretty and the sex is ALWAYS real damn good. I have had some wild times in Abboboro and Prime that's for sure.

The Palms, Taj Mahal, Sharon, & Lotus make up the high-end boutique clinicas. The full price is 640 BR (Sharon & TAJ) and up to 750 BR (the Palms) on the credit card of which a Palm girl gets 350 BR. Don't ask me to identify my 2 favorite Palm girls because I won't. KKK. I put in the leg work and made the $$ investments, won some and lost some, KKK, so I will not share my hard-earned results except to say my 2 favorite Palm girls are top caliber in looks and performance and they could easily pull in 700 BR or 800 BR maybe more per session in Scandallo.

So, for me the most important question of the morning after I enjoy my coffee, juice, and breakfast at my hotel buffet is; do I feel like getting it on in the early afternoon or do I want to wait until 9:30 pm. Ha Ha. If I am in the mood for afternoon sex, the next question I ask myself is; do I want to have real good sex with a down to earth SP girl for 360 BR max or do I want to have real good sex with a potentially upscale boate quality girl at one of these expensive boutique clinicas, or do a sure thing with one of my repeat high end clinica favorites) in the afternoon for twice the price of a regular clinca girl, which is also half the price of a quality boate girl (700 BR+500 BR (consumable)+240 BR (room) minimum) in the evening.

That is my choice: 360 BR (or less) vs. 750 BR (or less) vs. 1440 BR (or more) or various combos of the 3. I also have the option of calling one of my favorite boate repeat girls like Valeria and inviting her over to my hotel for the evening (5 to 7 hours / multiple shags / no sleepovers) for 900 BR not including wine, weed, and dinner. What a life! I am happy when I am in SP.

SamaRiding

02-08-24, 03:49

Nounce

02-08-24, 06:27

...Sometimes there is a grey area in quality issue ....The odds are much better at Palms because 1. The owner will give you information about the girls. 2. the rooms seem more consistent and better or you can ask for it. 3. You can reject the girl ONCE and make a different pick in the room.

Would one of the girls named Sky, a petite blonde spinner? Oops, I just gave away one. Haha. I understand your thinking, but the girls are just there for the taking, it's not like others don't know where to meet these girls.

Robotron

02-08-24, 06:47

Nothing comes close in terms of luxe vibe and number of legit hotties. Imagine the nicest club you have ever been to, with live band and party atmosphere. Add a huge terrace. Add a 3. 5 star hotel attached. Add that every girl in the club wants to fuck you. Voila. Scandallo.

While websites are often misleading, Scandallo's is spot on. This virtual tour will give you an idea.

http://scandallolounge.com.br/tour-virtual/

Note that its interactive and u can virtually walk around the club.I don't speak spanish and don't club so have to step my game up and learn fast.

I was going to budget 5000 USD total to spend 2 weeks in Colombia since it seems the girls average 20 to 85 USD there. Whats the average here in reals for normal or street girls plus the min / max range to spend on a Scandallo girl?

Is it preferred to use the hotel in the club for those hookups? Couldn't find the room rate.

Thanks.

Axel Heyst

02-08-24, 13:48

The odds are much better at Palms because 1. The owner will give you information about the girls. 2. the rooms seem more consistent and better or you can ask for it. 3. You can reject the girl ONCE and make a different pick in the room.

Would one of the girls named Sky, a petite blonde spinner? Oops, I just gave away one. Haha. I understand your thinking, but the girls are just there for the taking, it's not like others don't know where to meet these girls.Sky is most definitely attractive and she is on my to-do list, but I have never had the pleasure. I wonder how she looks in person. One of my 2 repeat favorites, name to be withheld, KKK, is a brunette spinner. Her pics are prominently displayed in Palm emails and on their web page. IMHO, she looks better in person than in her promos. My other favorite is never posted in Palm emails or on their web page. You will only see her pics if you go into the casa or Whatsapp Palms directly and ask who is available. Apparently, she values her privacy and has enough loyal customers to suit her goals.

Nebulousity

02-08-24, 14:54

The Palms, Taj Mahal, Sharon, & Lotus make up the highend boutique clincias in SP. Sometimes there is a grey area in quality issue which is created mainly because there is no line up in the high price boutique clinicas, only phot shopped pics from which to make a decision, so not all the high end boutique girls that I end up in bed with are the equal to tier 1 or tier 2 Scandallo types and sometimes I have a girl at these boutique casas that is no better in the looks department than a slightly above average girl at Prime or Abboboro, but sometimes I hook up with a real looker and a keeper. That is the gamble when I go to these high-end casas. And the reverse is true as well. Sometimes I have gotten lucky and met a regular clinica girl that is as good as, as attractive as most Bomboa girls and I wonder why she is working in a regular clinica fucking maybe 5 guys a day and getting only 200 BR per session. I don't know.
Another bonus of the high end clinicas is that it's a little easier to see who will be there by their websites, decide if one particular person is a fit for your tastes, and make an appointment a day in advance via WhatsApp (with the caveat that the appointments will fall through at least 25% of the time). Also early appointments (10 or 11 am even) are possible if you're morning oriented, whereas the other clinicas don't really get going until around 1 or 2. After much time in SP one can get particular about a type so it's a little more of a sure thing to work in advance, instead of waiting for the day of WhatsApp updates of the other Clinicas. That said the surprises at Boates and clinicas with lots of new people, like Tangara, can also be super fun.

Steve 9696

02-08-24, 16:54

Unless things have changed there is a nice little bar upstairs at Abbobora. But once you pick your girl they want you to rumble so you can't really relax with a drink. So if you have a wingman and want to have a pregame warmup drink seems best to have that before calling the girls for lineup. Others with boots on the ground (soon!) may have an update or other advice.

Is Palms/Taj similar with a bar/relax area pre-game?

GattoRojo

02-08-24, 17:21

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That is my choice: 360 BR (or less) vs. 750 BR (or less) vs. 1440 BR (or more) or various combos of the 3. This is an amazingly helpful breakdown of the range available in SP. Thank you! I've been plotting out spots on a map to try to pick a hotel, and I'm going to color code them now.

GattoRojo

02-08-24, 19:40

Axel Heyst

02-08-24, 22:32

Hello there. I've never been to Brazil but I'm planning a trip and have been reading the Rio and San Paulo forums along with General info and places to stay. My questions are pretty general and I was wondering about the clothing thing. I'm a shorts guy and hate wearing jeans. While the nicer establishments like Scandallo require a nice shirt and a pair of jeans how about some of the clinicas? Will I stick out like a sore thumb wearing shorts just walking around town? I'm always hot and unless it's below 40 degreesF, I'm good.

My other question is about tips. Now I recall reading on here that tips are not part of the culture in Brazil and that tipping a girl is not required. Do you guys ever tip at restaurants or normal bars for GREAT service? If so what's a normal rate? I recommend that all of us follow the Federation's general rules of Starfleet Command Section 1:

Starfleet crew will obey the following with any civilization that has not achieved a commensurate level of technological and / or societal development as described in Appendix 1.

No identification of self or mission.

No interference with the social, cultural, or technological development of said planet.

No references to space, other worlds, or advanced civilizations.

So, if you find yourself in a no tipping culture it is best not to tip. Let's not turn SP and RJ into BKK and Pattaya. I hope you know what I mean. And let's not piss of the local customers who by their tolerance allow us to play in their playground ie their Boates, Clinicas, and Termas.

When I 1st started visiting the clinicas and boates I would look for some kind of sign, after a session was over, from the girls indicating they were expecting a tip. There never was any indication, so I quickly realized the girls were not expecting any kind of tip, so I stopped thinking about it. A no tipping culture means nobody expects a tip. They don't even know it exists, so let's not give them any ideas.

On my 3rd trip to SP, Marcos, the head waiter at Bomboa, passed me on to his new apprentice waiter. The new guy was just as capable a waiter as Marcos was, but every time I went to pay my tab, he hit me up for a friggin' tip. I told him I would take care of him before I left town, so he should not bother me for tips anymore. He said he understood, but the guy did not get it, and he continued to pester me. So, I gave him nada.

When I returned to Bomboa on my 4th trip, I immediately asked Marcos to be my waiter again, and he said, of course, but asked me what the problem was with the new guy, and I told him. Well, that was the end of that. Marcos spoke to the new waiter in front of me and the new guy apologized, and guess what, he never pestered me for a tip again and we got along respectfully my 5th & 6th trip. I hold no grudges. The new guy saw me as a gringo, and he took his shot. No Bomboa waiter ever dares to ask a local customer for a tip.

I confess, however, that I do break Federation rules with Marco. I always hand him a hundred to a hundred & fifty BR on my last night in Bomboa for the 6 or 7 weeks of excellent level of personalized service he provides. I am sure some well-heeled Brazilians do the same from time to time.

On your other question concerning shorts in clinicas: Wear what you like. Nobody cares what you wear in a clinica and long as your clothes are clean and do not stink although I would never wear a Marlon Brando wife beater t-shirt in SP, but that is just me. KKK.

Septimius

02-09-24, 12:19

That is not quite correct. Some restaurants will add 10-13% service charge to your bill. Some will ask you if you want service charge included. You can decline. There is a discussion about tipping at Bombia too.

I don't think there is a dress code requirement at clinicas. I wear shorts all the time, and never have a problem. Some customers may go to clinica during break or after work, then they may be more formal. If one observes that, then one would think that is how a customer should dress.

There is a waiter at Bomboa. He was a good guy and was always there when I needed a drink. He asked me for a tip when I checked out to leave. I was paying the girl and he came over and asked if I could give him a tip as well. I did. It was no big deal. I never tipped anywhere else in Brazil except for the Uber drivers.

...So, if you find yourself in a no tipping culture it is best not to tip. Let's not turn SP and RJ into BKK and Pattaya. I hope you know what I mean. And let's not piss of the local customers who by their tolerance allow us to play in their playground ie their Boates, Clinicas, and Termas...

When I returned to Bomboa on my 4th trip, I immediately asked Marcos to be my waiter again, and he said, of course, but asked me what the problem was with the new guy, and I told him. Well, that was the end of that. Marcos spoke to the new waiter in front of me and the new guy apologized, and guess what, he never pestered me for a tip again and we got along respectfully my 5th & 6th trip. I hold no grudges. The new guy saw me as a gringo, and he took his shot. No Bomboa waiter ever dares to ask a local customer for a tip.

I confess, however, that I do break Federation rules with Marco. I always hand him a hundred to a hundred & fifty BR on my last night in Bomboa for the 6 or 7 weeks of excellent level of personalized service he provides. I am sure some well-heeled Brazilians do the same from time to time.

On your other question concerning shorts in clinicas: Wear what you like. Nobody cares what you wear in a clinica and long as your clothes are clean and do not stink although I would never wear a Marlon Brando wife beater t-shirt in SP, but that is just me. KKK.Thank you all for the advice and suggestions. Hey Alex I remember reading your post about this a few days ago while trying to catch up on the thread. I could not remember who wrote it but it's actually one of the reasons I posted the question in the first place. Good to know though.

Nounce

02-09-24, 21:21

...Is Palms/Taj similar with a bar/relax area pre-game?I don't remember Palms has a bar. The greeting area is small but it has the most luxurious and largest rooms on average among the ones that I have visited. Lotus is the only one that I remember has a bar.

JSmith80

02-10-24, 06:59

I don't remember Palms has a bar. The greeting area is small but it has the most luxurious and largest rooms on average among the ones that I have visited. Lotus is the only one that I remember has a bar.At Palms, there is a bar but it must only be for show as when I asked for a beer they said they don't serve alcohol. There is no MGC (Meet Greet and Chill). It is all business but let's just say it's all good business. Palms was one of my most favorite visits.

J.

JSmith80

02-10-24, 07:11

Sky is most definitely attractive and she is on my to-do list, but I have never had the pleasure. I wonder how she looks in person. One of my 2 repeat favorites, name to be withheld, KKK, is a brunette spinner. Her pics are prominently displayed in Palm emails and on their web page. IMHO, she looks better in person than in her promos. My other favorite is never posted in Palm emails or on their web page. You will only see her pics if you go into the casa or Whatsapp Palms directly and ask who is available. Apparently, she values her privacy and has enough loyal customers to suit her goals.AxH,

Would this happen to be Katrina? She has quite the kegel muscle.

J.

Turgid

02-10-24, 14:40

AxH,

Would this happen to be Katrina? She has quite the kegel muscle.

J.Many times those muscular contractions are involuntary. For instance they happen when a woman is coming.

Axel Heyst

02-10-24, 21:59

AxH,

Would this happen to be Katrina? She has quite the kegel muscle.

J.Not Katrina, but it is good to know another Palm girl can pussy squeeze.

Many times those muscular contractions are involuntary. For instance they happen when a woman is coming. Voluntary or involuntary, whatever the cause, my dick likes the feeling. KKK. A lot!

HotelAl

02-11-24, 21:59

Do providers in SP or Rio provide BBFS (clubs or freelancers)? Can this be negotiated and what is the extra cost.The answer for me was yes. I had SA ladies, Scandalo, tender, and some on photo acompanhantes. I haven't tried at clinicas but maybe next time.

I sometimes just ask them and 8 out of 10 say yes, some want extra and some don't.

MRusa007

02-12-24, 00:05

DM me if you have not gone yet. I am here.Tried to send you a message, but it is blocked. Saying you can't accept any private messages. Can you send me a DM and I can reply.

Hi Willie Wonkers.

Thanks for reaching out and offering help on Curitiba.

Planning to go in April and preparing for that. Reasonably familiar with the game in Rio and in SP. What are the cool places to go in Curitiba. We know only one club called "Sense". What are your recommendations? The Curitiba board is so empty and outdated now.

Nounce

02-12-24, 16:11

DM me if you have not gone yet. I am here.Your will become senior and have free DM access when your post count reaches 25.

SamaRiding

02-13-24, 01:03

As I am researching Clinicas, I ran across this site (https://melhoreskamas.com/) that had listings for a few places I'd already identified. Are they all just owned by the same group? I have seen reviews for a few of the places here, so I feel like they are probably legit, though some of the associated sites blur faces, which is always a red flag.I checked todays WhatsApp status photos with the website for a few of the clinicas and they match. So I think the rest of them should be accurate also. Not sure if these clinicas are owned or related to each other. Doesn't seem like it. Or does this site just grabs the WhatsApp pics that are posted. I remember there was another website a few years ago that show the daily lineup for a different group of clinics but that site closed down after a few months. I think still easier to add the status of the clinicas in WhatsApp and get the lineup there.

CCRider1008

02-13-24, 17:14

Krilimag

02-13-24, 18:32

Planning a trip to SP and perusing through the thread I gather that there are very few hotels that are girl friendly. I am leaning towards Air BnB with a booking for two adults. Anyone used Air BnB before at SP that has any issues with bringing in girls?

I figured since my booking is for two adults that, bringing in a girl should not be a problem.

CatBert55

02-13-24, 18:50

Axel Heyst

02-13-24, 19:52

To start yes I did read the "hotels" thread. And most all conversation is Moema or after that very outdated.

Staying SP early Sept. I want to stay in central area of SP, Itaim Bibi, Jardin or Paulista. Need advice on more upscale hotels that are GF or reasonable additional fee. Marriott's or Hilton like will do. Yes I did see thread on Marriott Exec Apts and looking at -- seems like all smoking rooms which make me gag. I do not take street hookers to hotels. Girls will be dressed decently and behave.1. Wrong, most Marriott Exec Apartment rooms are smoke free.

2. Check out my recommendations in the hotel thread. I have stayed in all the places I write about.

3. Five Star and Four-Star SP hotel prices are going through the roof. You can still find deals occasionally, but you must start your search early and keep searching on a weekly basis until you find something reasonable. I do not consider paying $250/ night and above for the Renaissance, Hilton, or JW Marriott, reasonable, but if you do, the more power to you, in which case you might be interested in Hotel Fasano Jardins or Hotel Fasano Itaim Bibi which are both priced well above $500/ night. I once stayed at the Fasano Ipanema during Omicron back in 2021 for around $125/ night. It was a pretty good hotel. KKK. The hotel restaurant was phenomenal. P.S. I once took an SP MClass escort, my "centerfold," to the Fasano Jardins Hotel restaurant and the tuna dish I ordered was fucking amazing!

4. The way I get around this hotel $$$ issue is by having / using travel Credit Cards that offer annual free night benefits and hotel points. There are some incredible bonus offers for signing up for one of these CC's.

5. On my next trip planned for June / July a good portion of my stays will be at the Hyatt, JW Marriott, and Intercontinental free on points and vouchers. The rest of my SP nights will be spent at comfortable and convenient 4.5 stars for around $100 to $125/ night. I do not know of any SP hotels which are not girl friendly, but always make reservations for 2 persons to avoid any possible issues. As I said, you have to search for these quality hotels early and often if you want a reasonable price. Check out the traveler ratings on Expedia. I have found that any hotel with an 8. 8 overall traveler rating or higher is pretty damn good. I prefer Itaim Bibi and Jardins neighborhoods, but the Berrini area is ok too.

CoolGregg

02-14-24, 00:05

CCRider1008

02-14-24, 03:45

1. Wrong, most Marriott Exec Apartment rooms are smoke free.

2. Check out my recommendations in the hotel thread. I have stayed in all the places I write about.

3. Five Star and Four-Star SP hotel prices are going through the roof. You can still find deals occasionally, but you must start your search early and keep searching on a weekly basis until you find something reasonable. I do not consider paying $250/ night and above for the Renaissance, Hilton, or JW Marriott, reasonable, but if you do, the more power to you, in which case you might be interested in Hotel Fasano Jardins or Hotel Fasano Itaim Bibi which are both priced well above $500/ night. I once stayed at the Fasano Ipanema during Omicron back in 2021 for around $125/ night. It was a pretty good hotel. KKK. The hotel restaurant was phenomenal. P.S. I once took an SP MClass escort, my "centerfold," to the Fasano Jardins Hotel restaurant and the tuna dish I ordered was fucking amazing!

4. The way I get around this hotel $$$ issue is by having / using travel Credit Cards that offer annual free night benefits and hotel points. There are some incredible bonus offers for signing up for one of these CC's.

5. On my next trip planned for June / July a good portion of my stays will be at the Hyatt, JW Marriott, and Intercontinental free on points and vouchers. The rest of my SP nights will be spent at comfortable and convenient 4.5 stars for around $100 to $125/ night. I do not know of any SP hotels which are not girl friendly, but always make reservations for 2 persons to avoid any possible issues. As I said, you have to search for these quality hotels early and often if you want a reasonable price. Check out the traveler ratings on Expedia. I have found that any hotel with an 8. 8 overall traveler rating or higher is pretty damn good. I prefer Itaim Bibi and Jardins neighborhoods, but the Berrini area is ok too.Thanks for info. I booked the Renaissance for 4 nights but had to set departure date 2 days before my flight since fuckers at Marriott jacked the price to $800 per night Sept. 5th and 6th. NFL game is in SP on the 6th so they take advantage. I'll book at lower price hotel that's GF friendly remaining two nights. Hassle moving for two nights but no way am I wasting money I could be using to monger.

Axel Heyst

02-14-24, 14:00

Thanks for info. I booked the Renaissance for 4 nights but had to set departure date 2 days before my flight since fuckers at Marriott jacked the price to $800 per night Sept. 5th and 6th. NFL game is in SP on the 6th so they take advantage. I'll book at lower price hotel that's GF friendly remaining two nights. Hassle moving for two nights but no way am I wasting money I could be using to monger.Yeah, it looks like all the American chain hotels are going wild on the dates you specified. I had a similar problem although not as severe for the dates of June 25 to June 28. Normally the Hyatt wants 9000 points for a night's stay, but on the specific dates I mentioned they want 15,000 points / night.

Fuck them. KKK. Check out the Grand Mercure Itaim Bibi or the Gran Estanplaza Berrini. Both hotels are friendly, quality, 4. 35 star hotels that I have stayed at many times. The Itaim Bibi neighborhood is better for restaurants and walking around plus that hotel is 2 blocks from Bomboa. It is absolutely girl friendly.

Nounce

02-14-24, 16:05

JSmith80

02-15-24, 05:56

Hello fellow Vets.

Where do I exchange money in the Sao Paulo?

Usually in Caribbean, Mexico and Colombia I can exchange with small shop inside Colmado/Supermercado in a popular tourist area.

Can I reload / buy data for Claro SIM?

If they don't have claro not sure if a tourist can buy a SIM on Passport.

Thank you Very Much for suggestion / advice.Honestly, it's never been mentioned too much on this forum but converting money in your home country is the most convenient. Yes, you'll lose some money on the conversion rate but it's incredibly convenient. I never had to step foot into a bank or exchange place while over there. Whatever I didn't use, I converted back. Convenience costs money but in my opinion it was worth it.

As for the SIM cards, it's hit or miss. I don't have too much experience with that.

J.

JSmith80

02-15-24, 06:02

Has anyone done an extended stay at the Lush Motel? It looks pretty cool and will obviously be girl friendly.

J.

XXL

02-15-24, 09:27

Hello fellow Vets.

Where do I exchange money in the Sao Paulo?

Usually in Caribbean, Mexico and Colombia I can exchange with small shop inside Colmado/Supermercado in a popular tourist area.

Can I reload / buy data for Claro SIM?

If they don't have claro not sure if a tourist can buy a SIM on Passport.

Thank you Very Much for suggestion / advice.Seattle travel used to have the best exchange rate, no passport needed.

https://www.encontrajardins.com.br/rua-oscar-freire/empresas/seattle-tur-viagens-e-cambio/

You can get a Tim SIM complete with data showing only your passport.

Axel Heyst

02-15-24, 14:23

Seattle travel used to have the best exchange rate, no passport needed. Seattle is the best of the lot and easy to get to, but the best fx exchange rate is only available with the Schaab no fee ATM card. It is a true travel game changer. I only bring emergency / backup US $$$ with me now.

Anaggie

02-15-24, 18:19

I have a person who delivers to my hotel and he gives a pretty good rate. Last week, the exchange rate was 4. 96 and he delivered at 4. 90 to my hotel. If you want his WhatsApp, I can PM the number. I usually text him a day before I arrive into SP. He only speaks Portuguese so you will have to use google translate.

Dobandun22

02-15-24, 23:43

1. Wrong, most Marriott Exec Apartment rooms are smoke free.

2. Check out my recommendations in the hotel thread. I have stayed in all the places I write about.

3. Five Star and Four-Star SP hotel prices are going through the roof. You can still find deals occasionally, but you must start your search early and keep searching on a weekly basis until you find something reasonable. I do not consider paying $250/ night and above for the Renaissance, Hilton, or JW Marriott, reasonable, but if you do, the more power to you, in which case you might be interested in Hotel Fasano Jardins or Hotel Fasano Itaim Bibi which are both priced well above $500/ night. I once stayed at the Fasano Ipanema during Omicron back in 2021 for around $125/ night. It was a pretty good hotel. KKK. The hotel restaurant was phenomenal. P.S. I once took an SP MClass escort, my "centerfold," to the Fasano Jardins Hotel restaurant and the tuna dish I ordered was fucking amazing!

4. The way I get around this hotel $$$ issue is by having / using travel Credit Cards that offer annual free night benefits and hotel points. There are some incredible bonus offers for signing up for one of these CC's.

5. On my next trip planned for June / July a good portion of my stays will be at the Hyatt, JW Marriott, and Intercontinental free on points and vouchers. The rest of my SP nights will be spent at comfortable and convenient 4.5 stars for around $100 to $125/ night. I do not know of any SP hotels which are not girl friendly, but always make reservations for 2 persons to avoid any possible issues. As I said, you have to search for these quality hotels early and often if you want a reasonable price. Check out the traveler ratings on Expedia. I have found that any hotel with an 8. 8 overall traveler rating or higher is pretty damn good. I prefer Itaim Bibi and Jardins neighborhoods, but the Berrini area is ok too.I didn't see you make any posts specifically about the JW but it looks like their lounge is open 24/7. How is it for walkable stuff compared to the Renaissance in Jardins? And how about girl friendliness. Ie, bringing two girls is OK? I was never questioned once in the Renaissance and am debating how much I want to go there vs. JW which seems a bit nicer.

Nounce

02-16-24, 02:43

I had a short stopover at Sao Paulo recently. I got 2 TIM chips, each for a month, for the next two months. According to the seller, I can use the second SIM after my first SIM expires in 30 days. I am still not sure if the seller understood what I was trying to do. She told me to make 1 phone call each day for the first 2 days to keep the second SIM active. I will find out next month to see if my second SIM will give me another 30 days or not.

I had some unfinished business in Vila Mariana. I was in the area, so I went to Yankins. There lineup was poor in the morning. I picked one that the manager told me was very good, so I skipped the interview. I was given room #2 upstairs. It must have been remodeled recently. It looked new and spotless. That was why I walked into the shower glass door without seeing it was closed. Fortunately, I did not break it and I was fine. The girl and I both got a good laugh. I realized that I may have made a mistake when the girl tried to put the condom on for oral. Haha. I asked the girl nicely with a "please", she changed her mind and gave me a BBBJ instead. The BJ was excellent and she DP it so much that I thought she must enjoy it. This made me wonder what the CBJ was about.

There were more girls present when I was leaving, and I saw one that I like. I went back several hours later to find her but she was not available. I asked for a lineup. I picked the first one without seeing more. I asked her if she did oral without, she whispered in my ear "Eu chupo sem camisinha" so I don't think I need to see more. LOL. I was assigned room #2 again. I finished with CIM and I did not fuck her. I have been getting BBFS for the last few months and I know it's going to be a struggle to finish with condom because it was difficult in the morning session.

Back to the last day in Brazil of my previous trip, I had a session here with a pregnant girl. It was unremarkable except she was pregnant with a baby bump on her stomach. I was thinking checking out Taj and to a no name restaurant that I walked pass when I had session at Sharon as it seemed popular with locals. I decided to go to Tangara first because I had not been there for a long time. I ended up trying to wait for a girl to finish lunch but unfortunately an Asian guy was waiting by the stairs and got her first. When I was waiting, I got hard sitting there watching another girl sitting across me who was chatting with a couple of locals for a long time. I talked to her and chatted a bit, then we went to the room. The session was memorable because she was friendly and unspoiled that I told her to ignore the bell, and stayed in the room as long as we want just talking about stuff. She is a very good story teller with a very attractive voice that I will always remember. My Portuguese is poor but we shared some common interests like diving, and Brazilian food so I was able to comprehend more than usual. She taught me a new word maconha. This is a girl that I really miss but as it was my last day, I did not get her number and I never see her in Tangara's WhatsApp lineup. By the time I got to the restaurant, it was after 3 PM and closed but I made it this trip.

The picture is the stair at Tangara, the bar is downstaris where the girls ate that day. The chair was where I sat while waiting. The girl I took sat across me.

Axel Heyst

02-16-24, 03:38

I didn't see you make any posts specifically about the JW but it looks like their lounge is open 24/7. How is it for walkable stuff compared to the Renaissance in Jardins? And how about girl friendliness. Ie, bringing two girls is OK? I was never questioned once in the Renaissance and am debating how much I want to go there vs. JW which seems a bit nicer.I never posted specifically on the Sao Paulo JW because I never stayed there and there are 2 reasons why. 1) Every time I was looking to make hotel reservations & loaded up with Marriott points and free night vouchers, the Renaissance offered better deals. A lot better deals. 2) As I posted previously, I greatly prefer the Jardins and Itaim Bibi neighborhoods over Morumbi / Brooklyn for daytime walkabouts as well as their closer proximity to my favorite boates.

That said, I am looking forward to my upcoming stay at the Sao Paulo JW. I made the reservation a few weeks ago by chance when I logged into my Marriott account and surprise, surprise, the JW was offering a significantly discounted week's stay in points, much lower than the Renaissance ask, so I jumped on it. The JW used to be a 4 Seasons Hotel, so I am pretty sure it is a more luxurious hotel than the Renaisance, but at this level of hotel quality that alone does not make much difference to me. What counts in my book is location, location, location, and price.

And there is no comparison in neighborhoods. The area around the Hilton / Hyatt / JW is just not very interesting while the area around the Renaissance in Jardins is one of the best in SP for walkabouts and restaurants, not to mention, it is much, much closer to the boates. There is a big hill in Jardins that you have to walk up and down walking to and from the Renaissance to Av. Brasil, but it is all part of the scenery. If this is your 1st visit to SP, I recommend the Renaissance or the Intercontinental over the Hyatt, Hilton, or JW.

I also really like Itaim Bibi for similar reasons and there is no big hill to climb. KKK. Incidentally, the neighborhood in between Av. Brasil and Av. Nove de Julho ie in between Jardins and Itaim Bibi is tree lined and full of beautiful city mansion / estates making it great for walkabouts.

I have stayed a few times at the Marriott Exec Hotel. The Marriott Exec is not really a 5-star hotel, more like a 4. 3 star, but I really like its little neighborhood adjacent to Ibirapuera Park to the East and 2 blocks from Bomboa to the west. There is a friendly local steakhouse and very good sushi restaurant worth checking out for lunch nearby in this neighborhood.

All these hotels are girl friendly. I have personally had 2 girls up to my room in a true lesbian menage a trois, at the Hilton, but on the advice of my main girl in the enterprise, we did it one at a time ie my main girl arrived 1st and I brought her up to my room and then 5 minutes later her girlfriend texted us that she was arriving, and I went down, met her as she was getting out of her uber, and escorted her up to my room. No security check whatsoever.

The Marriot Exec is also very loose. The max number of girls I have brought back to this hotel is only 2 girls at a time, but the front desk didn't bat an eye, so I assume you can bring as many girls as you like back to the Marriott Exec. KKK. The Hyatt and the Renaissance have sometimes insisted on a security checks for my girls and sometimes they have not. There is a back door to the Hyatt elevators through the garden / pool area into the dining room which might prove useful if you are planning to have more than one girl at a time at the Hyatt. The Hyatt like the Renaissance usually has a FL'er or two hanging out in the lobby. They are easy to spot, but very, very expensive. I highly recommend bringing a girl back from one of the boates instead.

DonMoscow

02-16-24, 17:01

Nounce

02-16-24, 20:45

Nice report, thanks as always. Can you explain the TIM chip situation? How did you activate it? I thought you had to go to a store and show your passport? Or did you have CPF already?You only need passport. The easiest method is to buy a TIM chip (sim) from the newsstand. The go to a Tim store to have them help you activate it with your passport. If they don't know how, you can just ask them to connect you using your phone to an online person who speaks English then you can take over and provide the information asked, like address and passport info.

You can search for Loja TIM on google map to find the stores near you. Usually you can find one in shopping center.

When you run out of data, you can go to a drugstore, ask a few and you will find out that does, or convenience store like Americanas to recharge it. They only take cash for this.

The Critic

02-17-24, 02:55

And there is no comparison in neighborhoods. The area around the Hilton / Hyatt / JW is just not very interesting while the area around the Renaissance in Jardins is one of the best in SP for walkabouts and restaurants, not to mention, it is much, much closer to the boates. There is a big hill in Jardins that you have to walk up and down walking to and from the Renaissance to Av. Brasil, but it is all part of the scenery. If this is your 1st visit to SP, I recommend the Renaissance or the Intercontinental over the Hyatt, Hilton, or JW.

I also really like Itaim Bibi for similar reasons and there is no big hill to climb. KKK. Incidentally, the neighborhood in between Av. Brasil and Av. Nove de Julho ie in between Jardins and Itaim Bibi is tree lined and full of beautiful city mansion / estates making it great for walkabouts.What Boates are close to the Renaissance in Jardins?

Axel Heyst

02-17-24, 04:19

What Boates are close to the Renaissance in Jardins?I was speaking in relative terms (uber travel times) compared to the 5-star hotels down in Morumbi / Brooklyn. That said, Casarao IS within walking distance of the Renaissance if one cares to chance it late at night. Not me, but I recall another BM posted about doing it a while back. Otherwise, it is usually a 10-to-15-minute Uber ride to Casarao and about a 20-to-25-minute Uber ride from the Renaissance to Scandallo after 9 pm when I usually head out OR a 20-minute ride to Bomboa. Compare that to the 45 minute plus Uber ride from the Hyatt to Scandallo after 9 pm or the 30-minute ride from the Hyatt to Bomboa and you see what I mean.

I probably did not make it clear in my previous post, but when I stay in Itaim Bibi at either the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi or the Marriott Exec Hotel, two of my favorite 4. XX-star SP hotels, it is an easy, relatively safe, 2 block walk to and from Bomboa from different directions, and an Uber ride to Scandallo after 9 pm is around 20-to-25-minutes. The big difference between the big 5 stars and these 4. XX hotels are the "glitz" of the 5 stars' lobbies and depth of their buffet breakfasts. The rooms in the 4. XX's are roomy, KKK, and clean and the money difference can be as great as $100 to $125/ night. On top of that, I like their neighborhoods, so I like these two hotels and stay at them often after I run out of hotel points and voucher free nights at the 5 stars.

GattoRojo

02-17-24, 04:36

My flight is booked, and I just secured an apartment near the Hospital São Luiz! Next week, all of this dreaming becomes a reality!

I looked at different hotels, but decided on an AirBnB because the price was so good. $70/ day! It seems like it's maybe well positioned for some walking tours of the clinicas. It's hard to know by just using Google Maps, but it feels like it's pretty well situated.

I have Google Fi and WhatsApp. It will show a US number though. Is it worth going to the trouble of getting a local SIM to get a Brazilian #?

I plan on using ATMs to withdraw BRL. But maybe at a place like Scandallo, it makes more sense to just use a card to pay instead of carrying so much cash?

Anything (other than Scandallo!) you wouldn't want to miss on your first visit to SP / Brasil? Debaucherous or not. All suggestions are welcome.

Obrigado!

Robotron

02-17-24, 10:39

Anyone have photos of the girls they've partaked in at Scandello or any links in this thread? I'm planning to spend the next 3 months learning Portuguese on Duolingo, or if anyone has another recommended service or way to learn to at least understand some basics.

How much does the rooms upstairs cost to bring girls or are you bringing them back to your own place?

Anaggie

02-17-24, 16:20

I was speaking in relative terms (uber travel times) compared to the 5-star hotels down in Morumbi / Brooklyn. That said, Casarao IS within walking distance of the Renaissance if one cares to chance it late at night. Not me, but I recall another BM posted about doing it a while back. Otherwise, it is usually a 10-to-15-minute Uber ride to Casarao and about a 20-to-25-minute Uber ride from the Renaissance to Scandallo after 9 pm when I usually head out OR a 20-minute ride to Bomboa. Compare that to the 45 minute plus Uber ride from the Hyatt to Scandallo after 9 pm or the 30-minute ride from the Hyatt to Bomboa and you see what I mean.

I probably did not make it clear in my previous post, but when I stay in Itaim Bibi at either the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi or the Marriott Exec Hotel, two of my favorite 4. XX-star SP hotels, it is an easy, relatively safe, 2 block walk to and from Bomboa from different directions, and an Uber ride to Scandallo after 9 pm is around 20-to-25-minutes. The big difference between the big 5 stars and these 4. XX hotels are the "glitz" of the 5 stars' lobbies and depth of their buffet breakfasts. The rooms in the 4. XX's are roomy, KKK, and clean and the money difference can be as great as $100 to $125/ night. On top of that, I like their neighborhoods, so I like these two hotels and stay at them often after I run out of hotel points and voucher free nights at the 5 stars.If anyone plans to try to make it Scandello before 7 pm from the Renaissance, leave early and I mean early. I left my room at 6 pm and ordered an Uber on the way down. The Uber came in approx 10-12 mins, and I got to Scandello with 8 minutes to spare. We had to deal with rush hour traffic and luckily we didn't have any other issues. Just something to keep in mind if you are planning to take advantage of the early entry fee.

Steve 9696

02-17-24, 17:18

First night in SP where would we go but the legendary Scandallo. And it did not disappoint. We arrived early, maybe 7:30 and of course it is not very busy then. They kept the large stage area of the club and large patio closed as it was not yet crowded.

Since the spaces in the club were limited to the small entry bar, the small garden terrace and the restaurant, my buddy Mark and I went to the restaurant. Mark is new to the game and thus was super impressed, even though only maybe 1/5 of the floor area was open and maybe 20-30 girls? But the luxury and girl quality is undeniable.

We settled in with some Jack and Coke. Before I forget let me warn you here. Jack is $16 USD and coke is $6 charged separately. So a Jack and Coke is $22. Corona is much more reasonable at $10 but we didn't figure this out till later. We ran up quite the bar tab plus cigars and entry.

Of course it is not long before we are approached and we fend off a couple girls. However one girl, Gabi is a real cutie and takes a very casual approach standing near me and engaging in light convo in her great English but never pushy. Super classy girl. Meanwhilst Mark is approached by a couple girls as well including Maria who we will return to.

We had made a pact to not take anyone the first hour. So it takes the pressure off a bit because you know you are going to settle in. At some point we decide to walk the rest of the club and that gives us a chance to chat frankly. He is smitten with my girl, Gabi, and that is great because she's a shade off my type tho super pretty.

Mark was complaining that the patio was smoky and the best way to defeat this is to smoke urself so we get a couple Monte Cristos. These are a heart stopping $40 each we find out later so bring 'them if you got 'them!

As Mark was interested in Gabi I grab her for him and the three of us get a table on the patio. It's clear those two have a connection and soon her hand is on his leg and they are laughing like old friends. Gabi is lovely to chat with and I don't feel a third wheel, but soon think I should grab a hottie as well.

I excuse myself for a minute and circle before deciding on Maria, who had engaged Mark initially. I bring her back to the table and we get another chair. Maria doesn't smoke but Gabi and Mark are sharing his cigar. It's an intimate thing to do and Maria tries mine, with me explaining how to smoke it. A lovely double date!

The great thing about Scandallo is there is no rush to the room. A quality girl there is happy to spend time "on the date" as well and will spend quite a bit of time just laughing and drinking and smoking. We prob spend at least an hour, maybe more. At some point Maria and I start making out. And like most Brasileiras I know, she can kiss like an Angel and a devil all rolled into one!

Eventually we decide to get a room and both of us have a whale of a time. Maria is a wet passionate fuck fest and Gabi who seems so classy is a very naughty minx in the room. Both Mark and I were on cloud nine. Mark came down 40 minutes over the hour if that tells you something. LOL.

We are both pretty spent but LOVE the Scandallo atmosphere. It's carnival week so the attendance is comparably light but still surely 100+ girls as the club fills up (they never did open the patio given the slow night). So we just settle in and drink and watch the future fuck partners parade.

For those that haven't been, aside from the luxe and scale of the club the girls are uniformly pretty. Mark and I agree that while we have our favorites there are only maybe 5 to 8 girls we wouldn't be happy fucking. It's all slim and fit hotties with bare midriffs, a handful of which are 9. 5's. Yowza!

I can't recall the exact sequence but Mark ends up chatting with slim hottie Laura for a very long time in the restaurant. I assume I am just cruising and enjoying the girl buffet. He doesn't intend to take her but I think I will because I hate that he chats her up so long (30+ minutes) but doesn't plan to take her.

I guess tho she worked her magic because when I check in at some point he says he plans to take her. So I quickly switch to wingman mode and say OK let me go grab a girl but I have nothing to go on but optics because of the short notice and assume I will settle, but play the good wingman role.

So I head back into the fray of the main club area and start wending my way through the body jam. I had seen this super petite cutie earlier. Maybe 148-150 cm tall with a nice chest and go and grab her. Not a lot of lead up. Just "Hi my name is Steve" and "Let's go talk in the restaurant". As I lead her back to Mark and Laura I think they are surprised I made such a quick grab but I am in wingman mode now.

Turns out I made an excellent choice. Probably the best body I've seen on a 5 foot nuthin girl. Just built out in all the right places. A fucking brick house for fucking.

She's a ton of fun in the room and ready to please. We suck and fuck forever but I am perilously hard to finish as my fifth fuck in four days. But she's a damn hard worker and good sport, smiling ear to ear throughout with plenty of ball licking and all my usual finishing tricks.

We finally go to the age old finisher of jerking off while she masturbates that gorgeous 20 year old pussy. We are at it s good long time and, at my age, my shot is maybe an inch distance on a good day. LOL So we are both shocked when I shoot a full 18" and hit her square on the thigh. Damn that was nice!

So yet another spectacular Scandallo visit and spectacular price tag as well. Girls were 1100-1500 R and not budging below that. Totally worth it of course. With drinks, girls, cigars, rooms and entry we each dropped about $800. Certainly pricey for Brasil but worth every fucking penny and fuck we were there 7 hours! Scandallo retains its status as number one girl club worldwide IMO. Just adore it. A must do for every man.

Stay tuned for the pull of a full on ten from Casarao the next day. No joke. Prettiest girl I've ever been with and that's saying something. Coming soon.

Axel Heyst

02-17-24, 18:31

If anyone plans to try to make it Scandello before 7 pm from the Renaissance, leave early and I mean early. I left my room at 6 pm and ordered an Uber on the way down. The Uber came in approx 10-12 mins, and I got to Scandello with 8 minutes to spare. We had to deal with rush hour traffic and luckily we didn't have any other issues. Just something to keep in mind if you are planning to take advantage of the early entry fee.Yep, gone are the good ol' omicron days of recent memory (2021) when there was hardly any traffic on the road and you could travel anywhere fast without a problem. KKK. Nowadays, even a short ride from the Hyatt to Iguatemi shopping mall will take at least 25 minutes around noon time and an early afternoon ride from the Renaissance down to Moema Clinica country will take 30 minutes or longer.

But the really critical travel time to keep in mind is the ride from your hotel to GRU to catch the return flight home. For this reason, I prefer to book the last AA or Latam flight out of SP to MIA which is scheduled after 11 pm local time. Plan on an hour minimum ride time to the airport. You don't want to miss your flight home or maybe you do. KKK.

Axel Heyst

02-17-24, 18:42

Hey Steve, it sounds like you and your pal had a great 2-fer time at Scandallo despite the fact that it was a quiet night and you guys spent a bundle. But hell its only money, woman and booze with a few cigars thrown into the mix. LOL. It must have been an added bonus to look after and watch your friend's "cherry boy" initiation rites into this great bordello / nightclub scene. KKK. I am looking forward to hearing about Casarao, the next night, and the "prettiest girl". Ha Ha. What suspense! Good trip report, mate.

Combo

02-17-24, 20:35

Steve 9696

02-17-24, 21:13

Let's be clear up front. Casarao is not Scandallo. Not in the same league. Apples and Oranges. Rather than a consistently hot lineup of girls and well dressed guys, it is several notches down from this.

The girls are mostly a 5 to 6 crowd by my standards with some 4's thrown in and a smattering of higher girls. And the guys are all locals. Wear a black tee shirt and sneakers and you will fit right in.

The thing about it is though that awash in the sea of mediocrity there is a gem! I found one a couple years back and I found a straight up brilliant cut 5 carat diamond last night. Just absolutely smokin!

We got there about 11:15 and even though that sounds late the club was super empty. Good news is we were able to get seats up near the front and watch the parade of girls roll in one by one or in small groups. By 12 it was pretty packed.

Drinking our Red Bull vodkas we survey the scene. We'the been to Abobbora just five hours before and drained our balls, so neither of us were on edge and Mark generally planned to enjoy the vibe and not take a girl. Horndog Steve however always wants to pull a hottie and hopes his soldier will come to muster.

Mark is seated next to a girl who starts out friendly but soon gets shitfaced and starts to give fatal attraction vibes. Mark tries to fend her off but like a leach she hangs on tight. He is good natured about it and manages it well.

At one point we see these two girls walk into the club and don't get a full view but see pretty faces and beautiful bundas go by. Filed for later, they shortly appear across the room sitting at the edge of the stage. Their faces are harder to see in the dark and fog but one girls abs are def a work of art. Defined but in a feminine way. Mark and I agree she is smokin.

What a pleasant surprise when the tiny firecracker one, Mia, comes across the room to me and her model-tall friend, Manu approaches Mark. Up close I am even more impressed. Face of an Angel, nice chest (more on that later) and an ass I would give my left nut for!

She is friendly and all smiles and tells me she thinks I am beautiful (her English doesn't know the subtlety of handsome). Ok nice start! We get on like a house on fire, mostly in slow Português and a bit of google translate. Progressively we mutually move her closer between my legs and before long my arms are around her and she's my girl. Feels like a girlfriend almost instantly. I love that chemistry, rare though it may be.

We quite enjoy the strip shows as she confesses she likes both boys and girls. I learn that she is Amazonian from Manaus and damn yes she has the perfect native indigenous look to her. We chat and get more confortable and share a light kiss or two.

Eventually I seal the deal and it is half what a Scandallo girl would charge. Yet she could smoke any Scandallo girl hands down. So that's the beauty of Casarao. The gem, waiting to be discovered.

We go next door to the hotel and checkin but after we learn it's a 30 minute wait I decide to ask her to my hotel overnight. She's quite enthusiastic and we agree to double the hourly number. WTF? A Scandallo quality girl overnight for the Scandallo hour price. Wowza!

Back in the room I am of course super excited. But my jaw hits the floor when she undresses. I'the seen a bikini pic on her phone and woah that girl is built. But seeing her suddenly naked in front of you is mind blowing. Perfect natural Cee cup tits which are firm and perfect. An ass built by god himself as an example of how it should be. Those tan lines that only Brasileiras can do for some reason! Omfg.

I am going to digress here because I'm callling a TEN. I am sure many of you will say — what? Tens don't exist. They are the mythical unicorn of the girl world. And I was on this page until June of this year when I met Dayana in Madrid and later flew her to Athens. Dayana was the most beautiful girl I had ever seen. Smokes any actress or model you might think of. So I have the benchmark right there. I called a TEN and I am calling it again a short 8 months later with Mia. Mia is absolutely stunning. She has even displaced Fortune at Diva London as best ass on planet earth. Mias ass is magical — that brasileira bunda that is unique. And in her case on a petite built frame.

The sex is beautiful and passionate and mutually caring. With plenty of deep kissing, ball worship, and other assorted goodies. Afterwards we crash and sleep intertwined. It's so lovely the mixing of limbs and alternating big spoon and little spoon. Just a lovely girl.

In the morning it's a quick BJ before she has to go and I am a little disappointed because I could fuck her for days. Well maybe I still might. Working on setting up a double date tonight with her and her friend and Mark and then a sleepover party. Kkkk.

Dynamite girl and literally breathtaking. I think like five times I blurted out "god fuck you are beautiful" What a find. And at Casarao of all places. So roll the dice at Casarao. The gems exist — and Mia is a rockstar fucking gem. Smitten.

Steve 9696

02-17-24, 21:20

New to the game and breaks his cherry at Scandallo! It's all downhill after that.Mark is new but slightly used. Kkkk. Introduced him to our world at Monte Carlo in Rio and he is def on the path to greatness. Scandallo was amazing. But as my recent post Casarao has gems as well. He was pretty struck by Manu so hopefully tonight will measure up. But yeah Scandallo totally rules.

Anaggie

02-18-24, 00:04

Mark is new but slightly used. Kkkk. Introduced him to our world at Monte Carlo in Rio and he is def on the path to greatness. Scandallo was amazing. But as my recent post Casarao has gems as well. He was pretty struck by Manu so hopefully tonight will measure up. But yeah Scandallo totally rules.Great to hear that your first and second night turned out so well. Finding a TEN is damn near impossible and I am glad you got one. Enjoy your time. And it is still true — there is nothing like Scandello!!

MaxLee88

02-18-24, 00:15

Let's be clear up front. Casarao is not Scandallo. Not in the same league. Apples and Oranges. Rather than a consistently hot lineup of girls and well dressed guys, it is several notches down from this.

The girls are mostly a 5 to 6 crowd by my standards with some 4's thrown in and a smattering of higher girls. And the guys are all locals. Wear a black tee shirt and sneakers and you will fit right in.

The thing about it is though that awash in the sea of mediocrity there is a gem! I found one a couple years back and I found a straight up brilliant cut 5 carat diamond last night. Just absolutely smokin!

We got there about 11:15 and even though that sounds late the club was super empty. Good news is we were able to get seats up near the front and watch the parade of girls roll in one by one or in small groups. By 12 it was pretty packed.

Drinking our Red Bull vodkas we survey the scene. We'the been to Abobbora just five hours before and drained our balls, so neither of us were on edge and Mark generally planned to enjoy the vibe and not take a girl. Horndog Steve however always wants to pull a hottie and hopes his soldier will come to muster.

Mark is seated next to a girl who starts out friendly but soon gets shitfaced and starts to give fatal attraction vibes. Mark tries to fend her off but like a leach she hangs on tight. He is good natured about it and manages it well.

At one point we see these two girls walk into the club and don't get a full view but see pretty faces and beautiful bundas go by. Filed for later, they shortly appear across the room sitting at the edge of the stage. Their faces are harder to see in the dark and fog but one girls abs are def a work of art. Defined but in a feminine way. Mark and I agree she is smokin.

What a pleasant surprise when the tiny firecracker one, Mia, comes across the room to me and her model-tall friend, Manu approaches Mark. Up close I am even more impressed. Face of an Angel, nice chest (more on that later) and an ass I would give my left nut for!

She is friendly and all smiles and tells me she thinks I am beautiful (her English doesn't know the subtlety of handsome). Ok nice start! We get on like a house on fire, mostly in slow Portugus and a bit of google translate. Progressively we mutually move her closer between my legs and before long my arms are around her and she's my girl. Feels like a girlfriend almost instantly. I love that chemistry, rare though it may be.

We quite enjoy the strip shows as she confesses she likes both boys and girls. I learn that she is Amazonian from Manaus and damn yes she has the perfect native indigenous look to her. We chat and get more confortable and share a light kiss or two.

Eventually I seal the deal and it is half what a Scandallo girl would charge. Yet she could smoke any Scandallo girl hands down. So that's the beauty of Casarao. The gem, waiting to be discovered.

We go next door to the hotel and checkin but after we learn it's a 30 minute wait I decide to ask her to my hotel overnight. She's quite enthusiastic and we agree to double the hourly number. WTF? A Scandallo quality girl overnight for the Scandallo hour price. Wowza!

Back in the room I am of course super excited. But my jaw hits the floor when she undresses. I'the seen a bikini pic on her phone and woah that girl is built. But seeing her suddenly naked in front of you is mind blowing. Perfect natural Cee cup tits which are firm and perfect. An ass built by god himself as an example of how it should be. Those tan lines that only Brasileiras can do for some reason! Omfg.

I am going to digress here because I'm callling a TEN. I am sure many of you will say what? Tens don't exist. They are the mythical unicorn of the girl world. And I was on this page until June of this year when I met Dayana in Madrid and later flew her to Athens. Dayana was the most beautiful girl I had ever seen. Smokes any actress or model you might think of. So I have the benchmark right there. I called a TEN and I am calling it again a short 8 months later with Mia. Mia is absolutely stunning. She has even displaced Fortune at Diva London as best ass on planet earth. Mias ass is magical that brasileira bunda that is unique. And in her case on a petite built frame.

The sex is beautiful and passionate and mutually caring. With plenty of deep kissing, ball worship, and other assorted goodies. Afterwards we crash and sleep intertwined. It's so lovely the mixing of limbs and alternating big spoon and little spoon. Just a lovely girl.

In the morning it's a quick BJ before she has to go and I am a little disappointed because I could fuck her for days. Well maybe I still might. Working on setting up a double date tonight with her and her friend and Mark and then a sleepover party. Kkkk.

Dynamite girl and literally breathtaking. I think like five times I blurted out "god fuck you are beautiful" What a find. And at Casarao of all places. So roll the dice at Casarao. The gems exist and Mia is a rockstar fucking gem. Smitten.This is what we all live for, the anticipation of the hunt, the thrill of the chase, and finding and closing in on the kill with a gem who reciprocates with sexual chemistry.

Granted, Scandallo is the most fertile hunting ground in the world, like the Serengeti during migration.

GattoRojo

02-18-24, 00:21

So, I have always done incall mongering.

But as I read through these reports, I am seeing a LOT of reports of not just bringing girls back to your place, but overnight?

Is this something more normal in Brazil? What kind of pricing would something like that entail and am I reading it right that she sleeps over? Or is it more that she just stays for a few hours?

I really like the idea of a more drawn out physical encounter but have never even considered something like this because everywhere else I have hobbies, those services are always in the thousands of dollar price range. I have a nice, but not fancy apartment rented, so I don't think I would have a problem bringing someone back (in fact, the rules say I can have "no more than three visitors at a time", so it's kind of implied that guests are Ok.

Am I missing something?

XXL

02-18-24, 04:11

Axel Heyst

02-18-24, 13:35

So, I have always done incall mongering. <snip> Am I missing something?Overnights are up to you and most boate girls will accommodate you for a pre-negotiated price. Some guys prefer them and others do not. On the plus side there is nothing like a wake up in middle of the night / early morning shag and then falling back asleep in your lover's arms. On the other hand, it will cost more and I personally prefer getting to know a girl a few ST times first before deciding if she is LT worthy. But as with most things in this sport of sports, it is up to you. Follow your bliss.

Nounce

02-18-24, 15:41

....How much does the rooms upstairs cost to bring girls or are you bringing them back to your own place?The room was about 260 last year so it could be more this year if they have raised the price. If you don't get a room and want to take the girl out, you have to pay a similar amount of exit fee. The longer time you negotiate with the gilr, the lower cost of the girl will be on average. The problem with Scandallo is that if you live here and get your regulars from here, the starting price is high regardless the look of the girl. It feels stupid to spend that kind of money day in and day out for an average person.

Usually I pay the room and the club by credit card. I pay the girl in cash so I will carry enough cash to the club. You can pay the girl by credit card, but Scandallo will charge a fee on top of that. Casarao is similar except the casarao will charge a credit card fee on top of the regular room fee which was about 50, with fee that I remember was about 70, the last time I used it around 2 years ago.

I have posted a few. Pictures are somewhat worthless because there is no standard and the girls come and go. The attached is from clubmodel and not a Scandallo girl. She probably is the most discussed known girl here that none of us have met. LOL. I say you won't find her in Scandallo on an average night, but a member may say 20% or 30% of the girls working at Scandallo are like her. My own observation is on average, the girls at Scandallo have body features that are more proportional when compared to the girls at the average clinicas.

Steve 9696

02-18-24, 20:05

The room was about 260 last year so it could be more this year if they have raised the price. If you don't get a room and want to take the girl out, you have to pay a similar amount of exit fee. The longer time you negotiate with the gilr, the lower cost of the girl will be on average. The problem with Scandallo is that if you live here and get your regulars from here, the starting price is high regardless the look of the girl. It feels stupid to spend that kind of money day in and day out for an average person.

Usually I pay the room and the club by credit card. I pay the girl in cash so I will carry enough cash to the club. You can pay the girl by credit card, but Scandallo will charge a fee on top of that. Casarao is similar except the casarao will charge a credit card fee on top of the regular room fee which was about 50, with fee that I remember was about 70, the last time I used it around 2 years ago.

I have posted a few. Pictures are somewhat worthless because there is no standard and the girls come and go. The attached is from clubmodel and not a Scandallo girl. She probably is the most discussed known girl here that none of us have met. LOL. I say you won't find her in Scandallo on an average night, but a member may say 20% or 30% of the girls working at Scandallo are like her. My own observation is on average, the girls at Scandallo have body features that are more proportional when compared to the girls at the average clinicas.Yes room is now 300 R. And if you put the girl on your card it is a 10% surcharge.

Got smaller cigars last night and they were $48 USD each. Quite a surprise when we got the bill at checkout. Fuck me! Kkkk.

PS we went before 7 and avoided the 200R cover though that is noise in the scheme of things. The food is excellent and actually well priced.

GattoRojo

02-18-24, 20:33

The food is excellent and actually well priced.I have tried to find the menu online, but no luck. What is the price range for a meal?

Axel Heyst

02-18-24, 20:54

Got smaller cigars last night and they were $48 USD each. Quite a surprise when we got the bill at checkout. Fuck me! Kkkk.
The food is excellent and actually well priced.Steve, I do all of my cigar shopping at Tabacaria Roma at Alameda Santos, 1787 a few blocks away from the Renaissance. Quality imported cigars are expensive in SP, but I am sure this shop will beat the prices you are currently paying at Scandallo, not to mention Roma has a better selection and they keep all their cigars in a properly sealed controlled humidity & temperature environment.

I enjoyed reading your Casarao report. I can only add that I have used the adjacent hotel only 2 times. My 1st and last time. KKK. The room was that horrible and unclean that even the girl I was with did not want to shower or walk barefoot on the dirty floor barefoot. KKK. It's much better to take your Casarao girls back to your hotel wherever that is even if it is only for a ST session.

I eat Scandallo and Bomboa restaurants all the time. The Scandallo Restaurant is better of the two. Surprise, surprise. I am pretty sure you are aware of this, however, that there are much better steak houses and sushi restaurants scattered around SP that are really worth checking out. The main advantage of these 2 bordello restaurants is that they are convenient, open all the time, serve pretty good food, and the bill can be expensed as a portion of the consumables on your entry fee if you have not already used that up on drinks. KKK. In addition, there are not many SP restaurants as good as these 2 that are open late at night.

Turgid

02-18-24, 21:27

....... but a member may say 20% or 30% of the girls working at Scandallo are like her. My own observation is on average, the girls at Scandallo have body features that are more proportional when compared to the girls at the average clinicas.If 20% or 30% of the girls at Scandallo look like the girl in the picture you posted then Scandallo has hotter girls than the best German FKKs.

HiddenEye

02-19-24, 00:23

That face (and highly photoshoped body) returns a lot of escort and webcam sites. So, "booking her" online would be a dangerous error and a 100% bait and switch.

I can only imagine how many forum members who don't update their trips fall into this crime scheme.

Note: i suggest to post blurred faces only, in order to comply brasilian regulations about personal information.

I have posted a few. Pictures are somewhat worthless because there is no standard and the girls come and go. The attached is from clubmodel and not a Scandallo girl. She probably is the most discussed known girl here that none of us have met. LOL. I say you won't find her in Scandallo on an average night, but a member may say 20% or 30% of the girls working at Scandallo are like her. My own observation is on average, the girls at Scandallo have body features that are more proportional when compared to the girls at the average clinicas.

Balboa

02-19-24, 03:09

I enjoyed reading your Casarao report. I can only add that I have used the adjacent hotel only 2 times. My 1st and last time. KKK. The room was that horrible and unclean that even the girl I was with did not want to shower or walk barefoot on the dirty floor barefoot. KKK. It's much better to take your Casarao girls back to your hotel wherever that is even if it is only for a ST session.

I've sessioned many times at the Casarao hotel and have always found the rooms adequate and clean.

AC, hot water, music, etc.

The rooms at Casarao prior to the remodel were of much lower quality.

I've been visiting Casarao for about 20 years now.

I try to choose my girl and get to the hotel before 1am when the line starts to gets too long.

Makes sense tho as the night goes on and there's a line for the rooms, that they may tend to do a quick clean of the rooms and may leave them less than desired.

XXL

02-19-24, 06:44

...I try to choose my girl and get to the hotel before 1am when the line starts to gets too long.

Makes sense tho as the night goes on and there's a line for the rooms, that they may tend to do a quick clean of the rooms and may leave them less than desired.That's one of the reasons I like to come early to such places, not just in Brazil. I prefer running the risk of the place not yet having many girls to choose from.

The Critic

02-19-24, 09:18

First night in SP where would we go but the legendary Scandallo. And it did not disappoint. We arrived early, maybe 7:30 and of course it is not very busy then. TDamn good post. Looks like you had a Legendary time in a Legendary place.

Let's be clear up front. Casarao is not Scandallo. Not in the same league. Apples and Oranges. Rather than a consistently hot lineup of girls and well dressed guys, it is several notches down from this. Dynamite girl and literally breathtaking. I think like five times I blurted out "god fuck you are beautiful" What a find. And at Casarao of all places. So roll the dice at Casarao. The gems exist..... Another good post. Yes, gems do exist if you're willing to mine them.

Robotron

02-19-24, 12:34

Yes room is now 300 R. And if you put the girl on your card it is a 10% surcharge.

Got smaller cigars last night and they were $48 USD each. Quite a surprise when we got the bill at checkout. Fuck me! Kkkk.

PS we went before 7 and avoided the 200R cover though that is noise in the scheme of things. The food is excellent and actually well priced.So if I agree to pay a girl 1000 are, I can use a Debit< card to pay 1,100 are to the Bar then they pay the girl? Seems like it can come in handy if I'm short on cash.

For the room, is it by the hour? I'm thinking what if I see another girl immediately after I finish a session and want to grab another.

Anyone know the best day and time to arrive here and return flight to the US to get most action out of 16 days (including flights)? Would detour to Rio for a week halfway also.

Axel Heyst

02-19-24, 13:10

I've been visiting Casarao for about 20 years now.

I try to choose my girl and get to the hotel before 1am when the line starts to gets too long.

Makes sense tho as the night goes on and there's a line for the rooms, that they may tend to do a quick clean of the rooms and may leave them less than desired.Good tip / Good to know. Taking advantage of the hotel allows one to return to Casarao for a 2nd round if one is desired. I like the concept, but taking a Casarao girl back to my hotel where I might have a bottle of quality Mezcal chilling in the refrigerator has its advantages too. KKK.

Steve 9696

02-19-24, 14:32

So if I agree to pay a girl 1000 are, I can use a Debit< card to pay 1,100 are to the Bar then they pay the girl? Seems like it can come in handy if I'm short on cash.

For the room, is it by the hour? I'm thinking what if I see another girl immediately after I finish a session and want to grab another.

Anyone know the best day and time to arrive here and return flight to the US to get most action out of 16 days (including flights)? Would detour to Rio for a week halfway also.The hotel is separate from the club and you pay there. So the sequence is:

Enjoy time in the club with your girl. You can spend pretty much as much time as you want. I've never been rushed.

Agree a price. I found hotties would ask 1500 but take 1000 or 1200. Gabi Marks girl wouldn't budge off 1500.

You take the elevator down to the lobby and she will go get her bag. Then up the stairs to check in.

If paying by card they will take the girls fee before the room and she gets a receipt.

Afterwards you pay the room including overage if you run over.

A parting kiss in the lobby and you pay ur exit or head back up to the club.

John Gault

02-19-24, 15:38

What in the Sam Hill is KKK? It is not listed in the abbreviations.

Kazeu

02-19-24, 16:25

What in the Sam Hill is KKK? It is not listed in the abbreviations.It's what Brazilians use the same way English speakers would use "hahaha". I found it odd too when I first discovered it.

GattoRojo

02-19-24, 16:32

Does Prime have a website? I have found websites for most of the other places I am looking to visit. I tried searching here and on the web, but the only Clinica Prime I can find looks to be a medical clinic.

Steve 9696

02-19-24, 16:37

After landing mega-hottie Mia for an overnight, we had planned to meet up again tonight and she would bring her friend Manu for Mark. We Whatsapp a bit about the date but I suddenly think "why not save that for Sunday which is dead". So I text Mia and say maybe Sunday instead. She's very happy with this and I realize it's best for both because we can enjoy a Saturday night separately (her prob working the club) and still hookup Sunday.

Of course our epic Scandallo visit is echoing in the back of our minds and we decide we have to reprise that! So off to Scandallo we go, arriving before 7 pm which avoids the 200 R cover, not that matters a lot in the scheme of things. We settle in at the bar in the restaurant and have a few little chats but nothing terribly worthy.

After some time we decide to eat and get a table. The food is actually amazing and well priced. I thought the price would be jacked up but it was like any restaurant. We had some Sushi and fried shrimp, both of which were super tasty. (I'the forgotten they put melted cheese in the fried shrimp in Brasil. Genius!) Girls don't really approach when you are eating so it's nice and relaxing.

After dinner, we again get into the cigars, not having learned a thing from our prior night, but this time selecting smaller presumably more reasonably priced ones. However with our final bill at the end of the night we find out they are a whopping $48 USD each! Those cards are dangerous! Kkkkkk.

We smoke on the patio and are approached by a couple 6-7's whom I would have sent away, but Mark has them join us and they are a lot of fun. Marks girl is even stroking his dick after a bit, but he holds out. I think they sense our lack of enthusiasm to take them to the room and they ask if we want them to stay or go and we politely dismiss them. They are good sports.

Throughout this time I am being absolutely STALKED by this slim girl in a peach dress. She is pretty but I have a certain type, so I keep trying to avoid her gaze. When I go to the bar she is right beside me staring at me from 12" away, but I don't look (it's like Medusa and I don't want to turn to stone! Back at the table she positions herself in my line of sight. Over and over. For more than an hour! It's a little creepy but it pays off for her though not like you might think.

At some point, I go to the restroom and she swoops in on Mark! And guess what? It's a match! They are quickly best buddies. She's high as a kite and it's clear a good time is going down!

Not much after that I am blessed by the gods. The prior night I had seen this smokin hot blonde with bare midriff and tight leather skirt and toned abs. I mean a 9. 5 wow kinda girl for me. I'the kinda fallen in love then but she was with another guy. But tonight she suddenly appears on the patio chatting with a friend and I am on her like an eagle on a rabbit!

Of course we have nice chat and fuck wow she's a cutie. So I bring my new girl, Isabella, to the table with Mark and his girl. We have a good time though not the same deep kissing and sexual chemistry of Maria. But I think even if this is an opti-fuck it will totally be worth it. So I suggest we all four make a break for it and go fuck. Game on! (Betting some forum members know Isa. She will stand out in any crowd!

In the room she does indeed have a stunning body. Man-mades yes, but the kind where she prob had a Bee-cup and so there is sufficient soft girly stuff to enjoy. And she is very very tanned. So those Brasileira tan lines are super dramatic. Toned abs and a Brasileira bunda. What's not to like.

The sex is a bit more mechanical than my other Boate girls, but I'm not complaining really. She wasn't a starfish or anything. Just the bar is set really high. And fuck me that girl is drop dead gorgeous. We had a nice time and I return to the club and reconnect with Mark who had a great time.

After this we both take another girl, but we mis-time this, with me taking his girl Lulana (from the night before while he waits around. And then he takes a girl and I wait around. Not recommended — better to stay in sync.

I could tell Lulana was going to be a beast in the room as she was dancing in the club and just super happy and energetic. She is tall with legs forever. Quite slim dark and A cup tits and a real firecracker in the room. Best fuck of the trip so far to be honest.

We pack it in about 3:30 AM so we spent over 8. 5 hours in the club and sank another $800 each! Honestly it flew by and considering Mark had 11 Coronas and I had 8 also plus a gin tropical and a Negroni and $48 cigars and two girls. Really not bad in the scheme of things!

Ah Scandallo. It just always delivers. And our Sunday night date with Mia and her friend delivered also. Stay tuned!

Nounce

02-19-24, 16:56

It's what Brazilians use the same way English speakers would use "hahaha". I found it odd too when I first discovered it.I guess it is because h is silent in both Spanish and Portuguese.

Spidy

02-20-24, 01:24

What in the Sam Hill is KKK? It is not listed in the abbreviations. Good question!

Yes the "k's" all in a row, is seen as laughing and how Brazilians (and others), laugh online.

Can be equated with "hahahaha" (as previously mentioned by Kazeu), "LOL", "LMAO" or "jajajajaja", for example!

The pronunciation or sound the "kkkkkk" makes, is like a, "cácácácá" or a "kakakaka" sound when spoken/said out loud.

But how many "k's" you want to use, is totally up to you!...kkkk!

PS: Not to be confused with the other abbreviated definition, "the organization", of KKK.

BlueMoon22

02-20-24, 05:49

The fucking legend! Always delivers. Great mentor for anyone wanting to learn mongering in any area of the world! I missed out on a chance to go down and hang with he and his friend because I had some SA girls lined up this last week. Bad mistake they all failed!

Great reports steve!

CoolGregg

02-20-24, 06:19

I started journey on 17 sat from Jfk early morning but due to snow storm my flight got delayed by like 12 hours. Feb 18, Sunday. Arrived early morning at Sao Paulo terminal 3. Immigration for the extranos line only 5 people before me. Bem viendo em Brazil. Went straight to custom. Zip thru like custom in 2 min. Easy peezy Very easy compare to America. I noticed it takes more time inside any usa airport for same process. At least 45 min minimum up to 3 hours inside big airports. Time of day doesn't matter. In the arrival downstair I tried exchange shop, she was giving me $1 to 4. 36 reals. After cutting tariffa and some other charge it became $1 to 3. 26 real. So only exchanged enough for Uber money 90 reals. Got settled in the place at 6. 30. Made errands to buy party and necessary stuff. Used wifi to get to CLnica Indy at 1 pm. Saw presentation, 3 available at that time. About 7 of other guys waiting for either chika or room. Line up rating 6 to 7. Picked up one Prego 8 months and still working. God bless her. She was real good for being Prego. Used wifi to get back to Airbnb. I needed recharge claro SIM, so I went to ibirapura mall in Indianapolis. Tried couple of movil shop to recharge my claro data. They said if the claro sim is bought from other country they can not recharge. They send me to VIVO. Vivo only sells prepaid to Brazilian citizens. Last option was to try TIM. It worked. Bought prepaid 54 gig for 1 month for 110 Reals. Checked the phone to see any near by CLnicas, found Prime and Taj Mahal. So I picked much talked about prime. Fuck it was busy. 3 chikas were just busy on the phone on out side patio and mamasan called for presentation. They did not care to stand up and make rounds. I saw serena, Claudia, Mariana and two more. There were like 8 guys waiting. Line up was not bad, out of all probably 3 were with nice personality, like everything just right. I picked up Claudia. Went upstairs. Bathroom shower upstairs suck, cold water with no pressure. So we both just cleaned up the necessary stuff. Off we go. She was real good in giving BJ. BBBJ available. Did not even ask for anal. She was nice and really into this deed. Couple of girls know here English. You can ask mamasan for that. After your session they give out complimentary soda, coco water and water.

CoolGregg

02-20-24, 06:27

Started late Around 3 pm today as I couldn't not get enough rest previous night. Made loop of yankin, Zeus and one really hood type Clnica upstairs on main road in Vila Mariana area. Yankin was very busy only one chika available but 10 guys are waiting outside. Zeus was empty 5 chikas available. Did not sessioned in any of these places. At this point I feel like my half of the day is wasted. So made plan to visit casaro at 10.30. Place had 3 chikas to 1 men ratio. Mostly 7 or 8 talent. Like Gusto in parque Lleras. Chatted with Bia for 1000 reals + 210 salida fine. From 11 pm until 10 in the morning. She was super cool and provided total GFE experience with no drama. Have her no. She definitely made up for the dry spell of the day. LOL. Ordered pizza at 2 in the morning and had really good time.

UniversalX

02-20-24, 07:22

Robotron

02-20-24, 09:51

The hotel is separate from the club and you pay there. So the sequence is:

Enjoy time in the club with your girl. You can spend pretty much as much time as you want. I've never been rushed.

Agree a price. I found hotties would ask 1500 but take 1000 or 1200. Gabi Marks girl wouldn't budge off 1500.

You take the elevator down to the lobby and she will go get her bag. Then up the stairs to check in.

If paying by card they will take the girls fee before the room and she gets a receipt.

Afterwards you pay the room including overage if you run over.

A parting kiss in the lobby and you pay ur exit or head back up to the club.Gotcha. In your previous post, you arrived early and spent 8 hours in the club waiting for a single stand out girl to book, or had multiple hookup dates within that time?

Out of curiosity, have you run into doubles (2 girls at once) offers at Scandallo, or offers of BBFS with or without extra reais, even if you decided not to? Or got digits and was offered it another time.

Kazeu

02-20-24, 19:07

What in the Sam Hill is KKK? It is not listed in the abbreviations.It's what Brazilians use the same way English speakers would use "hahaha". I found it odd too when I first discovered it.

Steve 9696

02-20-24, 19:27

Gotcha. In your previous post, you arrived early and spent 8 hours in the club waiting for a single stand out girl to book, or had multiple hookup dates within that time?

Out of curiosity, have you run into doubles (2 girls at once) offers at Scandallo, or offers of BBFS with or without extra reais, even if you decided not to? Or got digits and was offered it another time.Both times this visit and most other visits I've taken two girls. I am surely spending more time in the club because I am with a buddy. Prob goes something like:

2 hrs of dinner drinks and selecting. Prob have several chats.

1 HR with the girls just hanging out maybe kissing and laughing.

1 HR in the room w girl 1.

2 hrs in the club and chatting up girls.

1 HR in the room w girl 2.

1 HR misc like checkin in and out and who knows.

You can surely get a double at Scandallo but better have deep pockets. I saw a guy chatting up a this pasty white chick and next thing I know he's taking 2 black chicks to the hotel. LOL.

Bareback is not common at Scandallo (generally higher end clubs have fewer offers of BBFS because girls of that caliber don't need to). That said Mark did get one offer which he declined.

Steve 9696

02-20-24, 20:49

Recall that Mia, the unicorn 10, and I had put off our Sat date till Sunday when it is slow. We WhatsApp and set a time and are planning on Japanese. I think I will take a little nap around 3:30 but as I settle in I see her text "I'm sorry but I don't think we can go tonight". Dagger thru my fucking heart. And Mark is super bummed because he was really looking forward to her friend Manu, having gotten previously cock blocked by his Fatal Attraction girl at Casarao.

I'm not quite ready to punt so I tell Mia I am very sad and maybe we could just not go all night. Or go earlier or later. Just groping at straws here when she says OK as long as we are done before 8:30 she can come on over!

I think "woohoo" but feel a bit sorry for Mark as Mia says Manu cannot come. But shortly she texts and asks do I want her to bring another friend for Mark. I doubt this will work out as Mark has narrow taste but when she texts a pic that could pass for her sister it's on! (an 8. 5 to Mia's 10).

They are just going to come to the hotel and come to our rooms. But in a flash of brilliance I say let's have a fiesta in my room so Mark and his girl can get comfortable. So I order a bottle of champagne to be sent up.

The girls arrive about 1/2 hour later looking lovely. Mia has worn a conservative sun dress but she still looks awesome. Fernanda is wearing a tight two piece like you might see in the club and Mark is slain. Even better than her pics.

No issues from the front desk at the hotel, we just meet our girls and head up to my room. It has a little seating area with a couch so we order some finger foods and pair it with the champagne. It's quite a fun little party and very comfortable so we order another bottle (a very reasonable 90 R) and continue chatting and listening to music. What a great idea the party was. We end up spending 1. 5 hours before departing to our private fuck fests.

Mia and I are so much more comfortable night two. Don't get me wrong; night one was amazing but this far exceeded that. And I can partially thank Mark for that because he is the DATY master and had coached me up a bit.

You see, on night one during the debrief he had told me about the DATY challenge he undertook with Gabi. She had said she never cums from DATY and he said "challenge accepted!" he worked her for a full half hour and she had a crashing O and that gratefulness that comes with it. Patient man that he is, he won the challenge and was amply rewarded. Kudos!

So over picanha the night after Gabi, I had asked him his three best DATY tips and those came in handy with Mia. I class myself as pretty good at it, but adding in one trick and a lot of patience I took Mia to that crashing O and it was legendary. She too seemed surprised and amazed and that look afterwards is priceless. I've only seen it before twice with other girls. When you give them the O they didn't think they could get without a vibrator, the look they give you (Something between serenity, bliss, and gratefulness.) is absolutely priceless. And so is the next hour that follows!

As Mia positions to give me the reward BJ I continue to be struck by her amazing body. You know how pretty much every girl has a little stomach pooch when sitting down. Even the pretty slim ones. She has ZERO stomach pooch and gorgeous high Cee cup tits and I just marvel. It doesn't seem possible. Yet here she is in my bed. With my dick in her mouth. WTF?

For the BJ I am much more comfortable giving her direction, as she is not a pro in this department, despite or maybe because of her beauty. So as she licks balls I show her how to use the flat of her tongue not the tip. And how to suck them. She is careful not too suck too hard and looks to me with her doe eyes for approval, which I graciously give. Sim! Gostoso!

I also show her how to harmonica and that is fucking amazing. She has thick beautiful lips and the feeling is electric. The visuals of her sucking my dick as absolutely legendary.

We have some rather amazing sex in all the positions and the mirror on the closet provides some great visuals. She loves to look at herself being fucked in doggie and just seeing that alone is completely arousing. Plus her perfect butt in doggie is to die for. I grab that Brasileira bunda and fuck like my life depends on it!

As my ninth fuck of the week (7 girls) I am a tough finish. We try tittie fucking with lube which clearly she hasn't done before but she catches on quickly and pushes her tits together. It feels amazing skin to skin and I build some.

For the final finish we go to her sucking balls and me jacking. And that feels great and goes on forever. She's taking a little break from sucking and is just slip sliding my highly sloppy balls with her hand, amazing face nearby, giving me the bedroom eyes.

She's actually enjoying watching my dick get harder and harder; and when I shoot out a nice load, she laughs and smiles and enjoys watching me shoot. Ah what a girl! Minha namorada (until Manuella arrives from Rio on Wednesday. Kkkkkk).

Mark and his hottie return, nice time had by all and we kiss them goodbye at their Uber. SP totally rules. Best girls worldwide by a mile!

Krilimag

02-20-24, 21:04

Nounce

02-21-24, 01:20

Planning a trip to SP and perusing through the thread I gather that there are very few hotels that are girl friendly. I am leaning towards AirbnB with a booking for two adults.

Anyone used AirbnB before at SP that has any issues with bringing in girls?

I figured since my booking is for two adults that, bringing in a girl should not be a problem.It's better to check with the owner if you are not sure. Just ask owner if you can have co-worker or friend to visit you. Some apartments are lose. But there are some apartments have security like prison and it can be very strict, especially the ones that owned by corporation, that you can't bring unregistered guest and you may only be allowed to registered one guest for your entire stay.

I don't think your info about hotel is accurate. It's been discussed frequently

Steve 9696

02-21-24, 01:41

Planning a trip to SP and perusing through the thread I gather that there are very few hotels that are girl friendly. I am leaning towards AirbnB with a booking for two adults.

Anyone used AirbnB before at SP that has any issues with bringing in girls?

I figured since my booking is for two adults that, bringing in a girl should not be a problem.I think you have it backwards. I have never been to a hotel in Brasil that is not girl friendly. You should book a two person room so there is no question. A couple years back I had hotels want me to register my girl but last couple times, including this week, no discussion — just rock on up to room together.

DonMoscow

02-22-24, 02:28

Last option was to try TIM. It worked. Bought prepaid 54 gig for 1 month for 110 Reals. Hey man, did this TIM location ask for your original passport? I went to two near where I stay and they couldn't sell me SIMs without my physical passport.

XXL

02-22-24, 07:32

Hey man, did this TIM location ask for your original passport? I went to two near where I stay and they couldn't sell me SIMs without my physical passport.From what I remember they wanted to see my original passport (at Shopping Iguatemi).

Krilimag

02-22-24, 19:12

I think you have it backwards. I have never been to a hotel in Brasil that is not girl friendly. You should book a two person room so there is no question. A couple years back I had hotels want me to register my girl but last couple times, including this week, no discussion just rock on up to room together.Thank you Steve maybe I did get it backwards. So if I am hearing it right, hotels in Sao Paulo are okay to bring it girls. I just need to make sure my booking is for two persons?

GattoRojo

02-22-24, 23:32

Ok, well, that was a hell of a welcome to Brazil!

I have been reading (and over-posting questions) in anticipation of my first visit to Brazil.

I got in yesterday, and it rained so fucking hard there was no doubt that I am not in Kansas any more. I had to do a work dinner, so decided the fun would begin today.

I got up and walked around my neighborhood. Stopped in at a grocery store, grabbed a coxinha at a cafe and tried to exchange $. No dice with the photocopied passport. But that's ok. I was able to get out $400 brl from an ATM. I think I will probably stick to paying with my card to avoid the cumulative fees from all the ATM withdrawals it would take to party right.

I decided to keep it local and start in the middle ground to get a sense of what I can expect this week. My apartment is very near several high end clinicas and Bomboa 222.

I sent Whatsapp messages to Taj Mahal and Lotus to check their line up. They both sent through lists of ladies who looked way too good to be true. I used Google Translate to ask if any spoke English. Taj said they all spoke some. Lotus said that only one girl named Ipanema did. Her photos were pretty spectacular and didn't look overly photoshopped. She was also available right then, so I booked it and called an Uber for what should have been a 15 min ride.

It was a 40 min ride. Holy fuck the side street traffic is no joke here.

Anyhow, I got there and the guy behind the desk took me straight to a room. A bed, a chair and a bathroom. All super clean and new feeling. 10 min went by and I was thinking maybe I was supposed to shower or something, but I didn't want to do anything until I saw her.

She finally came in and oh lord. This girl is gorgeous. A beautiful face, flawless skin, classy black lingerie. I was definitely expecting something a little rougher around the edges. She looks like the photos massage parlors in the states use as bait and switch photos.

She does not actually speak English.

That's fine, because at this point, I am willing to communicate entirely by smoke signals to keep her in the room. I shower off while she lays out her kit of supplies, and then she offers a massage. It's clear she has taken at least one massage class, but also clear that she isn't here to give me a back rub. She got hallway up my body before the flip, and she went pretty directly into a really nice BBBJ. She wasn't rushing, but she wasn't teasing too much either. The cover eventually went on, and into CG. Not necessarily GFE, but way more passionate than some of the mechanical service I have had elsewhere. Ended finishing in doggy with her laughing that she could feel the "bons pulsos".

I couldn't get enough of her ass, and was a little dismayed that I popped so quickly. She said she was going to take a shower and I almost got dressed, but decided to see if she would spend any more time with extra massage until the hour was up. Much to my surprise, she got out of the shower and told me to hop in, rinse off and we would try for #2. I was absolutely expecting her to see me to the door.

Ultimately, no amount of stroking or ball sucking was going to get me back in action in time, but I appreciated the effort and enthusiasm.

I'd say she was a girl next door 8. 5. No tattoos, gorgeous black hair, flawless tanned skin with nice tan lines and no stretch marks that I saw. Thin waist, natural cups, and an ass that wouldn't quit. But most of all. Her attitude was off the charts. She made me believe she wanted to be there. She was the college girl you never landed. Well. The one I never did. For 780 brl all-in, I would be happy just going back to her every day.

Now that I have a baseline. I wish I had another six weeks here and a better paying job. I think tomorrow I will explore the Moema area with the regular clinicas. Prime and Abbóbora are both on my list.

I'm also torn between Scandallo and Bomboa. I can walk to the latter. I am not really a dance-club kind of guy either, which seems to be the vibe that Scandallo is celebrated for. But then again, I am here, and it's the legendary spot. Not going seems like a missed opportunity. Maybe I will go to Scandallo and commit to just getting dinner there.

Tomorrow, I guess I will try to pick up some tadalafil from a pharmacy too.

Time to go get some sushi.

Robotron

02-23-24, 05:57

UniversalX

02-23-24, 06:14

Ok, well, that was a hell of a welcome to Brazil!

Now that I have a baseline. I wish I had another six weeks here and a better paying job. I think tomorrow I will explore the Moema area with the regular clinicas. Prime and Abbbora are both on my list.

I'm also torn between Scandallo and Bomboa. I can walk to the latter. I am not really a dance-club kind of guy either, which seems to be the vibe that Scandallo is celebrated for. But then again, I am here, and it's the legendary spot. Not going seems like a missed opportunity. Maybe I will go to Scandallo and commit to just getting dinner there.

Tomorrow, I guess I will try to pick up some tadalafil from a pharmacy too.

Time to go get some sushi.Wrong, there is some dancing, not required and very little of it.

Maybe I will go to Scandallo and commit to just getting dinner there.Naw, Naw, No, You go to Scandallo and Commit to getting that Bunda!! Lol
This I Command!!! https://youtu.be/ljQ76hjwyzQ?si=iDU3qw8txzisKSk2

Axel Heyst

02-23-24, 13:37

Ok, well, that was a hell of a welcome to Brazil!
<snip>
I'd say she was a girl next door 8. 5. No tattoos, gorgeous black hair, flawless tanned skin with nice tan lines and no stretch marks that I saw. Thin waist, natural cups, and an ass that wouldn't quit. But most of all. Her attitude was off the charts. She made me believe she wanted to be there. She was the college girl you never landed. Well. The one I never did. For 780 brl all-in, I would be happy just going back to her every day.

Now that I have a baseline. I wish I had another six weeks here and a better paying job. I think tomorrow I will explore the Moema area with the regular clinicas. Prime and Abbbora are both on my list.

I'm also torn between Scandallo and Bomboa. I can walk to the latter. I am not really a dance-club kind of guy either, which seems to be the vibe that Scandallo is celebrated for. But then again, I am here, and it's the legendary spot. Not going seems like a missed opportunity. Maybe I will go to Scandallo and commit to just getting dinner there.
Sounds like a great 1st day. Yeah, one of the things that turns me on about SP girls is that they remind me of the girls I went to high school and college with GONE BAD! KKK. I LOVE THEM.

Good luck with your plan to check out Scandallo and just have dinner. If you liked the look and performance of your afternoon high end clinica girl just wait until you are at this exciting, world class bordello / nightclub surrounded by 150 girls of which at least 35% are just what you are looking for whatever that is. I assume you read Steve's report. KKK. Bring your credit card and fuck it, have a blast. It's money well spent. And you can worry about paying it back after you return home. KKK.

That said, Bomboa is a very friendly, nice place to go as well. It is my 2nd favorite boate in the world. But I wouldn't miss Scandallo for all the pussy in China. Rock on!

A. H.

DonMoscow

02-23-24, 14:34

Does anyone know how clinica and chicas split the money, say I pay 200 R, how much goes to the gal?

Anaggie

02-23-24, 14:40

Which neighborhoods and areas would you recommend or avoid staying in? I was thinking to book an airbnb near Scandallo since it might help avoid traffic.

Any experiences at Scandallo solo? Not big on smoking or drinking myself and based on reports it seems that's how you attract women with the name brand stuff and having a booth. Planning on visiting in June, and wondering if it'll be awkward if I went alone and got a booth for myself.

Don't see too many reports on freelancers or working girls on the street, if it exists at all here.I usually go to Scandello solo. You don't need to drink anything or smoke anything or even get a booth to attract the women. All the women are working girls. Take a shower, smell good and dress nice (I wear a pair of jeans and a polo) and be nice. Just use the consumable part for the girls drinks if you want. Walk around and talk to a few to get an idea of how it works and then make your choice. The girls are used to foreigners using Google translate so make sure you use it.

Good luck and report back!!

Anaggie

02-23-24, 15:57

I'm also torn between Scandallo and Bomboa. I can walk to the latter. I am not really a dance-club kind of guy either, which seems to be the vibe that Scandallo is celebrated for. But then again, I am here, and it's the legendary spot. Not going seems like a missed opportunity. Maybe I will go to Scandallo and commit to just getting dinner there.
.Great first experience. This is why I love Brazil and prefer it over anywhere else.

You are in SP. You might as well go. Fuck the money part. Money will come and you can pay it back. The dance club vibe is in the dance club. They have an outside patio which is way more chill and relaxed and that is my preference.

Good luck and report back!!

GattoRojo

02-23-24, 16:42

Any experiences at Scandallo solo? Not big on smoking or drinking myself and based on reports it seems that's how you attract women with the name brand stuff and having a booth. Planning on visiting in June, and wondering if it'll be awkward if I went alone and got a booth for myself.I will be going solo (thanks to the encouragement of the regulars here) in the next day or three and will report back.

As for getting an Airbnb, I do t know what your length of stay is, but Scandallo is pretty far from the rest of the clinicas. I chose a spot closer to those because I am hoping to get in several sessions while here, and Scandallo is going to necessarily be a one time splurge.

Axel Heyst

02-23-24, 16:54

Does anyone know how clinica and chicas split the money, say I pay 200 R, how much goes to the gal?Yeah, I posted about the cut on atleas 2 different reports. RTFF.

Steve 9696

02-23-24, 21:37

Thank you Steve maybe I did get it backwards. So if I am hearing it right, hotels in Sao Paulo are okay to bring it girls. I just need to make sure my booking is for two persons?Correct. Many hotels you can just bring your girl right on up. But several have made her register at the front desk. Don't worry this is normal and they do it multiple times a day.

UniversalX

02-24-24, 01:08

Any experiences at Scandallo solo?Probably 50% if not higher are Solo Mongers. Not an issue at all. Sure, you will find groups of 2 or more but it's not an advantage or disadvantage unless you need a wingman to have fun. None, absolutely none, of the Ladies care if you are alone / solo. I tend to think women approach Solo guys a little more! Just go relaxed and have fun.

Your eyes will lead you one. Talk to a few or many. Get WhatsApp/phone numbers from the ones you may want to plan to see outside and or at your hotel room (especially if you're staying in SP over the weekend/Sunday).

Then pick a winner to take up to the inhouse rooms to pop your Scandallo cherry.
This I Command!!! https://youtu.be/ljQ76hjwyzQ?si=iDU3qw8txzisKSk2.

Good luck, I look forward to reading about your experience at Scandallo!!

Steve 9696

02-24-24, 13:44

Obviously I would have been happy to see Mia again after our little in room fiesta. I mean who doesn't want to repeat with the perfect girl. But I'the already arranged to bring some sand to the beach (Manu from Rio to fly in) as I had no idea I'the meet a stunning keeper. And I knew I'the be satisfied with the Boate action (6 girls in three days). So Manu flew in from Rio as prearranged and absolutely no regrets. Here's how it went down and proof that mixing in Seeking Arrangements can add good spice to the lineup.

Had some odd timing with my São Paulo visit where I was going to be here for a few days, then away for a few days, and then back again. There is this amazing girl Manuella with whom I had an awesome Seeking date in Rio. A true 9. 5 and ton of fun. So I am considering taking sand to the beach (Rio to SP) because she's been staying in touch over the last year (and saying when can we meet again.

I'm a bit torn because SP is so target rich but damn we had chemistry. I finally settle on the plan to spend the first four days in SP at the Boates (6 girls it turns out) and then fly Manu from Rio to SP for a few days when we return. I think she prob won't be down for such a short visit but she gets someone to cover her shift and we plan the trip. She had given me an amazing price for our date in Rio and same here. Let's just say I had her for 2. 5 days for the price of an hour or two with a Scandallo girl. (And she is equally hot. She would slay at Scandallo.

A week or so prior to the date she asks me to send the money and scam alert goes on high. I tell her I never do that and she backs off. But now every time we communicate I am wondering in the back of my mind. And in fact day before the trip she asks if I can send Uber money. Again red flag, but I decide to do it. If I'm out $40 then there are tons of chicks I can see including Mia the TEN, so not sweating it.

Turns out to be legit and she actually shows! We have a fuck of a time finding each other but soon I see this tanned goddess approaching and I know it's her. She throws her arms around me and kisses me and says I missed you so much baby. It's so amazing and affectionate and I'm like how the fuck could we have one three hour date and just fall back into it. But here she is!

To recap, Manu is a super slim girl with an amazing ass and well done fake tits that look perfect on her frame. Her face is spectacular and her long wavy hair past her ass absolutely to die for. Add a thousand watt smile and you have Manu. Best of all, however is she is sooooo affectionate. More on that soon.

She's very confident and somewhat dominant, which is kinda a refreshing change. She grabs my hand and we walk hand in hand to the Uber. She holds my hand in her lap all the way to the hotel. Ok baby. I am all yours!

At the hotel we lose no time and are making out on the bed instantly. She kisses passionately like Brasileiras do and tongue fucks me as I grow hard. She is on top grinding and there is no question we are a couple of horny bunnies and it's on from the get go.

I won't recap the whole thing because we fucked five times in two days and honestly it's all a bit of a blur so I will just hit some highlights.

I think the first round highlight is that I gave her a massive DATY orgasm. If you followed my São Paulo antics you know my buddy Mark has been coaching up my DATY game and I brought it down on Manu. Spending a good 20 minutes and some gspot magic also (she likes circles) she has a very physical O. The only way to describe it is like a paint roller coming down from inside and squeezing your finger out. LOL. Most girls clamp around your finger at orgasm but I had the paint roller thing happen with a girl in Cinci and it's the most remarkable thing. Anyhow, mission accomplished.

That night we have the most spectacular sushi dinner at a restaurant only a block away and have a lovely bottle of wine as well. We eat till we are stuffed and it's it USD $70 including the wine. I love Brazil! And then of course we fuck again! Eight hours in and two shots in the rearview. This girl is a tiger.

As I write this I am reminded of the things I love most about this girl. And one is affection. At dinner that first night we must have kissed at least ten times. She just gets this look of lust in her eyes and purses her lips and we meet halfway across the table for a lovely kiss. Right there in the restaurant. At lunch she's saying how much she loves my eyes. And she just wants to look into them, which we do for long periods. Hers a lovely liquid chocolate. She will softly kiss or stroke my arm or tongue fuck me or grab my ass in public when the mood strikes her. She's a hot as fuck vixen.

The other thing I love about her is the way she interacted with my friend Mark. We were going down for a drink and I asked if she minded if my friend Mark joined and she was like "why would I mind? Of course. " And throughout the couple days, yes we had lots of private time, but we also hung out the three of us together and laughed and drank and just had a blast. She's just a free spirit. When Mark left for the airport he came by our room to say bye. She sprang from the bed and gave him a huge hug and bom voyage. Her affection could light up the world.

Second day I have work and she stays behind and goes to the pool. Hard to keep a straight face when she sends me a bikini shot in the middle of a meeting. Fuck she has a rockin body.

Don't quite recall the afternoon sex but that's not because it wasnt good. Just not AS good. But important ground work was laid. I am dying to fuck her bare (I am smitten with her!) but know that's a tough nut to crack. Nonetheless in the heat of the moment I make a half hearted attempt which she rebuffs sweetly. As I grab the condom I say "maybe later" and she says yes maybe later. Hmmm interesting.

And I def recall that she strips off her dress in one fluid motion and has no panties nor did she wear any the entire trip!

Later that night, we have some superb Italian and a wonderful Malbec which we both adore. Many cross table kisses and I'm getting a chub knowing she has no panties on just inches away. Back in the room it is just the most lovely chemistry. I had given her a back massage on our first date which she adores so I reprise that. It's kinda a secret weapon and gets girls horny as fuck.

Stripping off her dress, she's buck naked and I get to my undies for the massage. I grind her ass crack with my dick as I give a legit back massage. Then I get my undies off and start on her ass. I am licking the backs of her legs and massaging her ass and dropping my tongue into her sweet juices from behind from time to time.

I straddle her again and start massage, working my way down to her ass. As I grind her ass crack with my dick I push it down to her pussy opening and say I will just touch it. But soon she is grinding in a circle and starting to inch my dick inside her. Before long I am fully inserted bareback and it's on! Love that SHE did it not me. I just had to make the opportunity!

OMG. No words for bareback with this goddess. Just absolutely epic. We are drunk as fuck and so despite the ecstatic feel, we go forever, eventually collapsing from pure sweaty exhaustion. But what a fuckton of fun.

Third day is our last day and I have to work again. But when I come "home" she showers me in kisses, like the best girlfriend you could imagine. We decide to bop to the bar and split a Caipirinha so I can perform well —- she seems excited by this. And strategic guy I am, I sit next to her rather than across so she can access my mouth more easily. She says several times how much she will miss me and tongue fucks me heartily in front of everyone. Like five times. Love this girl.

Back in the room we cuddle briefly and we are making out like teenagers. She's one of those girls whose pussy is connected directly to her mouth because when she pulls off her dress she already has pussy juice dripping down her butt! From kissing! Love that.

I do her tits well with my mouth which she loves then some DATY and she tastes like a million bucks. I take off my undies and there is no hesitation this time. She pulls me towards her urgently and inserts my rock hard dick right inside her and gasps.

OMG. So amazing. We fuck in every position we can think of but the Steve is the ticket. I'the been teaching her English so she is yelling out "Fuck me teacher!" As I pound away. The sex is just too fucking good. I want to do more but I feel the build and pullout and shoot a shattering load that hits just below her tits. Wow.

The next couple hours are kiss and spoon and cuddle. She gives me an amazing fairwell kiss at my Uber and turns away with tears in her eyes. Me too! It was awesome. I hope to fly her somewhere soon.

JohnJones22

02-24-24, 16:04

Sp1000

02-24-24, 16:17

Hey guys, sorry if dumb question, does anyone know if there is an extra percentage charge when using credit card to pay for entry fee / girl / room? In other countries I've seen 5-10% markups, just wanted to know what the deal was with scandallo. Thanks!Although I paid cash, I asked this question when I was there in December last year.

They said there is no markup for paying with credit cards.

At that time, entry fee was R500, exit fee was R300 when taking out a girl outside.

Steve 9696

02-24-24, 18:53

Hey guys, sorry if dumb question, does anyone know if there is an extra percentage charge when using credit card to pay for entry fee / girl / room? In other countries I've seen 5-10% markups, just wanted to know what the deal was with scandallo. Thanks!No markup on room or entry. But 10% markup if you pay your girl that way. They take it at the hotel desk and give the girl a receipt which presumably she cashes out later. They are very discreet. Scandallo shows up as SC or something and hotel as HM.

Sp1000

02-24-24, 20:06

GattoRojo

02-24-24, 22:19

Look, some days are better than others.

I had work stuff until 3 and was able to pull myself away from my colleagues in anticipation of hitting up a "regular clinica" in Moema. I hopped into an Uber and as we headed that way, it started to rain kind of hard. I sent a few WhatsApp messages to some of the clinicas to check on the line ups.

Abbóbora didn't reply, and none of the Spa Moah girls looked like my jam. Prime responded, but only with a list of names (I remembered too late reading here that they don't send photos.).

I was right near Prime anyhow, so I headed that way, but at this stage, with the rain and the back and forth, I was starting to not feel it. It happens. Sometimes it just doesn't feel right, and I have learned to listen to that feeling.

But fuck it, here I am, so I head down Ave. Iraí, and where I am pretty sure is the door, I see an Asian looking dude all in black standing around outside. He looked like a bouncer, and I figured that was the spot. And RIGHT as I stepped close to him, my fucking foot slips on the wet pavement and I do a little clown dance to avoid falling ony ass. He looks startled and says something in Portuguese that probably means, "watch your step, you fucking gringo. " (but he didn't say it aggressively or anything, just surprised) and in my embarrassment, I walk past him and catch a glimpse of a chica in a green silk thing through the open doorway as I pass. Yep, definitely the spot.

But now I have walked to the corner like an asshole and while I don't really care about what a bouncer (or maybe just some random dude.) thinks of me when I will never see him again, my brain was just fully out by that point.

So I called another Uber and came back to my place. I went for a quick walk and picked up some Cialis / Tadalafila (so cheap!) and will regroup.

Tochka

02-24-24, 22:57

Hey guys, sorry if dumb question, does anyone know if there is an extra percentage charge when using credit card to pay for entry fee / girl / room? In other countries I've seen 5-10% markups, just wanted to know what the deal was with scandallo. Thanks!Yeah, I also don't recall seeing additional Scandallo fees on credit card statements or receipts. They use an innocuous name for the charges.

I prefer to pay for scandal garotas at the end of our session in cash. So I don't pay upfront by card.

Some chicas will whip out the PIX terminal to offer another way to pay.

One time, in Casero my drunk ass nearly did a swipe in her PIX terminal. We were waiting an hour for a room but somewhere deep in the recesses of the brain, monger logic kicked in. If I swipe the card in her PIX it could block the ATM withdrawal I planned for daytime fun in Moema clinicas. That's it, the only reason didn't swipe, it might cut down on the number of Brazilian threesomes to pay in cash.

At the Scandallo second-floor cashier's station, I snap a quick foto of the Garota white card with the yellow sticky note. It has her full name scrawled on it.

Damn just remembered how much fun, I had flirting with the chubby blonde hair cashier on the second floor.

I'm standing there with two hot mulatas in each arm. Both resemble a curvy Bruna Marquezine. They are wet, and primed for the threesome. The IoP is going strong. While standing there with them the chubby blonde cashier and I are flirting, brief kisses, more fun dirty talking, and paying for the room. Hmmmm, A monger vision flashes before me. Why not have two hot mulatas and add a cute blonde on her knees slurping away with two mulatas. This is all I can think of now, standing in line, already with two hot garotas.

Well its fking scandallo!

So I grab the two Bruna Marquezine mulatas, we head back down the flight of stairs, up the elevators again, to find a deepthroat sloppy sucking blonde willing to be on her knees slurping away as an added to our threesome mix. Of course the blonde will need to lick the other two chicas too and any other combos. Its epic to be in place where you can have a damn good time.

For messy threesomes mixes in Scandallo, request one of the larger rooms. Those small ones near the elevator suck for Three's company.

GattoRojo

02-24-24, 23:09

Axel Heyst

02-25-24, 00:44

I prefer to pay for scandal garotas at the end of our session in cash. So I don't pay upfront by card.
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I'm standing there with two hot mulatas in each arm. Both resemble a curvy Bruna Marquezine. They are wet, and primed for the threesome. The IoP is going strong. While standing there with them the chubby blonde cashier and I are flirting, brief kisses, more fun dirty talking, and paying for the room. Hmmmm, A monger vision flashes before me. Why not have two hot mulatas and add a cute blonde on her knees slurping away with two mulatas. This is all I can think of now, standing in line, already with two hot garotas.

For messy threesomes mixes in Scandallo, request one of the larger rooms. Those small ones near the elevator suck for Three's company.Cash is scarce when travelling and I do not like carrying a lot of it around with me, but credit is cheap and always available. So, I also charge a boate's cover / entrance fee, all drinks and or meals, plus the hotel room on my CC. (The hotel room is separately charged.) I do this at all SP Boates as well as the clinicas. I also pay all my boate girls AFTER our session is over. Always!

But sometimes I stick around the club and find another girl that turns me on and do a 2 fer (a 2nd session with a different girl). On a few rare occasions I have done threesomes as well, but not as often, as I prefer threesomes at my hotel with girls I know well. One time I even did the same girl twice. Yep, I took the same girl upstairs twice in one night! That happened only once when we continued to hang out together after our 1st tryst and started drinking (a fair amount) and then started playing around in the courtyard (a fair amount) and what can I say? She turned me on and made me want her AGAIN! KKK. What a night!

Anyway, I always bring enough cash to cover the most likely cost of one boate girl no matter what her price might be allowing for the possibility that the girl I want might be a Tier 1. So, I bring around 1200 BR cash with me for a night at a boate and usually I only use a portion of it. But sometimes when I indulge in a 2nd girl, I will find myself a little short. No problem. At the hotel front desk as we are waiting for a room assignment, I tell my girl, I will pay you later and I decline the hotel clerk's offer to put my girl's fee on my CC.

The girl and I go upstairs, and we boom boom. After our session is over, I give her what I owe her in full or I give her a what I can. If I am short, we go down to the hotel front desk arm in arm, happy happy. I charge the hotel bill to my CC, and I tell the hotel clerk to put the balance of whatever I owe my girl on my CC too. Two separate charges. This way I never pay in advance even when I am short of cash.

Steve 9696

02-25-24, 03:18

Was literally just there so take this as gospel. And don't think you won't put something on your card. It's so fucking addictive unless you bring $1000 in cash your going to end up caving and using your card. LOL. Mark and I are living proof!

Cover and drinks / food. No markup. Shows as SCD.

Hotel. No markup. Shows as H M.

Girls. 10% markup for card. Shows as PAG MM.

Have fun guys!

XXL

02-25-24, 03:46

UniversalX

02-25-24, 08:58

Back then Bradesco ATMs gave sizable amounts of cash without any ATM fees. However the shortage of cash now may be due to the high price of mongering in SP's high-end venues, so that Bradesco's 500+ dollars no longer keep you flush for long. I wonder how much mongers here are prepared to blow during a single Scandallo visit. 1000? Several thousand?If your using Cash, there is fundamentally no constraint if you have the right debit card that allows a Daily ATM Withdrawal of at least $500 USD / Euro or $1000 USD / Euro and No Fees

So based on rates described in posts on this informative forum most get quotes of $R800 to $R1000 (and tier 1 quotes to $R1500+) So lets take the middle ground of $R1000 for first round and if your capable of a second round in a single outing you're at least taking $R500(Entry)+$R1000 for a One&Done only round =$R1500 (if capable for second round total $2500 R) simple not complicated.

Generally, I carry $R2500 (Entry + Two ($R1000) rounds) + CC in case of break glass emergency.

If you're willing to pay more per session, then obviously you need to bring more cash or use other financial combinations.

If you are using Combination of Cash and CC (as some posters have already said a few posts down, when in a pinch) this will probably allow you to stretch out a little more than Cash Only. Now if you're using a Credit Card then probably the sky is the limit, you will deal with the pain later.

You have to set your budget and determine how many sessions. To determine how much cash to bring. Like the commercial says.

"What's In Your Wallet?" LOL!!

Cash is scarce when travelling and I do not like carrying a lot of it around with me, but credit is cheap and always available.
Axel has it right!