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I usually go to Scandello solo. You don't need to drink anything or smoke anything or even get a booth to attract the women. All the women are working girls. Take a shower, smell good and dress nice (I wear a pair of jeans and a polo) and be nice. Just use the consumable part for the girls drinks if you want. Walk around and talk to a few to get an idea of how it works and then make your choice. The girls are used to foreigners using Google translate so make sure you use it.
Good luck and report back!!I will be in the area around 630 pm today. I am unlikely to session, but considering going in to check out the vibe, and maybe return another time. If I have just a beer or two what should I expect to spend. Again I will not likely spend time in rooms just a walk around and see what it is all about. Who knows maybe my eyes will pop and give up on my Scandello celibacy.
I will be in the area around 630 pm today. I am unlikely to session, but considering going in to check out the vibe, and maybe return another time. If I have just a beer or two what should I expect to spend. Again I will not likely spend time in rooms just a walk around and see what it is all about. Who knows maybe my eyes will pop and give up on my Scandello celibacy.The entrada is 300 before 7 PM and 500 after 7 PM with 300 of it that you can spend on food and drinks. You might as well make a dinner out of it. I usually have a steak and a salad for about 250, probably more now. You can get a beer or coffee to spend the rest of the consumable. You are paying for the premium to get the girls easily that you can't otherwise if you are not young or handsome. Haha.
I will be in the area around 630 pm today. I am unlikely to session, but considering going in to check out the vibe, and maybe return another time. If I have just a beer or two what should I expect to spend. Again I will not likely spend time in rooms just a walk around and see what it is all about. Who knows maybe my eyes will pop and give up on my Scandello celibacy.You are going to pay R300 for entry which can be used for consumption so you might as well eat and drink with that money. Since you are coming in at 630, you will get the second shift of girls plus the first so you should see some good quality. The last shift comes in by 9 I think so you could hang around for that. While hanging around, get phone numbers of girls if you aren't willing to session and tell them that you will arrange with them outside the club.
What percentage of the photos on photo accompaniments are fakes? The girls & prices is the main reason I am thinking of visiting Brazil. I am thinking that it is better to go to escorts places? Very few of the ad have reviews. So wondering if there is another sites that does?
Photo Accompanates is usually bait and switch. You don't know what you are getting. Scandello and Casarao are boates where you see what you are getting. Even the internet escort sites are pretty reliable with what is coming to your door but they are more expensive.
Gringo pricing does exist. Just learn to negotiate.
Hey man, did this TIM location ask for your original passport? I went to two near where I stay and they couldn't sell me SIMs without my physical passport.Went to TIM store inside mall, Paulista. The main road of area. Next to bunch of federal offices. It is prepaid. No passport or ID required. Got two prepaid SIM. One for my buddy from Florida. Took about 30 min for them start to end. Worked well in entire city. I also tried claro, vivo and they wanted Brazilian cedula
Axel Heyst
02-27-24, 02:21
What percentage of the photos on photo accompaniments are fakes? The girls & prices is the main reason I am thinking of visiting Brazil. I am thinking that it is better to go to escorts places? Very few of the ad have reviews. So wondering if there is another sites that does?Forget photo accompaniments, mate. It is too much work to find a decent girl and you are right, hunting down reviews is often times a futile gesture.
If money is a concern, stick with clinicas and RTFF. There are a ton of reports on them in this forum. IMHO the Moema clinicas provide the best bang for the buck in all of South America. So, I am a fan as well as a frequent customer. And this advice is coming from a guy who also likes to spend his nights and $$ in boates like Scandallo & Bomboa. The bottom line is the clinicas are great!
DandyMan51
02-27-24, 05:20
When I look at a web site such as Photo Acompanhantes, the prices listed per hour show 150 to 300 BR. Yet when I read here I see that gals charge 1000 BR at Scandallo and 500 BR at Cssarao. Even the ugly gals on the street near Cassarao ask 300-500.
Why such price discrepancies with the internet prices? Is it gringo pricing?This kind of contrast between online and clubs in just about every city. It's just a market segmentation.
Club girls: These girls may only get one client a day or one client every couple of days. They need to charge higher prices to make it worth it. However, these girls may have lower mileage. Clubs also have room costs. You also have the ability to see the girl before paying here. Further, clients at clubs tend to have more money, meaning not just foreigners but also locals. You go to a club expecting to pay 500-1000 Reais so the street girls charge proportionally more. If you have been to Medellin, it is the same as Centro vs Parque Lleras street girls.
Online: Since these girls are at a more accessible price point, they tend to get more clients. It's not rare to have an online girl get 5-7 clients per day which adds up to over 2000 Reais / day for some girls. This involves more actual sex though but the clients are just a text away. Bait and switch is also an issue here.
It all comes down to what kind of experience you prefer and what your budget is. Personally, from my time in Scandello, I haven't found any girl that is hot enough to justify spending an extra 700 Reais in Brazil. But for some more time poor and financially rich, or more discerning mongers, perhaps the story is different. Explore different options and see what works for you.
I'm with you on this. In my experience it's not really unique to Brazil. All the major metro areas around the world where I've been active (it's more than a few) have this kind of segmentation. The pattern I've noticed is the difference between the venue facilities is much bigger than the difference between the quality of the girls. The difference between the girls shrinks as you move toward the middle of the segments to the point that they are virtually indistinguishable when there is less than 20% cost difference. Scandallo is a place that fits well with the thriving businessman market in Sao Paulo. I think I am one of many who first experienced it while on a business trip. Think about Abbobora vs Scandallo. If you take away the sushi, cigars, and "elegant" facilities, would any of us seriously consider paying the 300%+ premium for the Scandallo girls?
This kind of contrast between online and clubs in just about every city. It's just a market segmentation.
Club girls: These girls may only get one client a day or one client every couple of days. They need to charge higher prices to make it worth it. However, these girls may have lower mileage. Clubs also have room costs. You also have the ability to see the girl before paying here. Further, clients at clubs tend to have more money, meaning not just foreigners but also locals. You go to a club expecting to pay 500-1000 Reais so the street girls charge proportionally more. If you have been to Medellin, it is the same as Centro vs Parque Lleras street girls.
Online: Since these girls are at a more accessible price point, they tend to get more clients. It's not rare to have an online girl get 5-7 clients per day which adds up to over 2000 Reais / day for some girls. This involves more actual sex though but the clients are just a text away. Bait and switch is also an issue here.
It all comes down to what kind of experience you prefer and what your budget is. Personally, from my time in Scandello, I haven't found any girl that is hot enough to justify spending an extra 700 Reais in Brazil. But for some more time poor and financially rich, or more discerning mongers, perhaps the story is different. Explore different options and see what works for you.
CCRider1008
02-27-24, 20:43
I usually go to Scandello solo. You don't need to drink anything or smoke anything or even get a booth to attract the women. All the women are working girls. Take a shower, smell good and dress nice (I wear a pair of jeans and a polo) and be nice. Just use the consumable part for the girls drinks if you want. Walk around and talk to a few to get an idea of how it works and then make your choice. The girls are used to foreigners using Google translate so make sure you use it.
Good luck and report back!!In the threads I've read (a lot of them) on the termas they say the sequence is to pay house fee then up to locker room into a bath robe and then back down to bars and lounges (in most cases anyway). When in Rome I guess, but doesn't a punter feel a bit odd sitting in a bathroom having dinner or drinks?
I noticed Casarao isn't open until 10 pm. Which begs question whether that area after midnight is safe for a gringo tourist and whether there are Ubers easily assessable from there.
On issue of trying to negotiate either BBFS inside or getting phone numbers for action outside the club, is that against house rules even bringing up? Trying to avoid downside risk of a 220 lb BJJ bouncer confronting me if one of the girls decides to inform the house (I'm only a grey belt. Haha).
This is true for 6's and 7's, it's hard for them to get more than two clients in one night.
8's and above, like this scandallo girl who f*cked like it was the finals of the world cup, in a good night, let's say F1 week and soccer finals, they get up to 4 clients in a day.
She was finishing her house with all that money. She was also very interested on my proposal for a private shoot because she would make a bit more "graninha" (little bit more money).
100% cooperative after the s*x as you can see.
This kind of contrast between online and clubs in just about every city. It's just a market segmentation.
Club girls: These girls may only get one client a day or one client every couple of days. They need to charge higher prices to make it worth it. However, these girls may have lower mileage. Clubs also have room costs. You also have the ability to see the girl before paying here. Further, clients at clubs tend to have more money, meaning not just foreigners but also locals. You go to a club expecting to pay 500-1000 Reais so the street girls charge proportionally more. If you have been to Medellin, it is the same as Centro vs Parque Lleras street girls.
She was finishing her house with all that money. She was also very interested on my proposal for a private shoot because she would make a bit more "graninha" (little bit more money).
100% cooperative after the s*x as you can see.HiddenEye,
There's a very high probability that I have sessioned with and even briefly dated the lady in your photos. Or this could be her twin sister.
Axel Heyst
02-28-24, 14:17
In the threads I've read (a lot of them) on the termas they say the sequence is to pay house fee then up to locker room into a bath robe and then back down to bars and lounges (in most cases anyway). When in Rome I guess, but doesn't a punter feel a bit odd sitting in a bathroom having dinner or drinks?
Termas (lounges / bordellos) are in RJ. Boates (nightclub / bordellos) are mainly in SP. Perhaps you are mixing up Solarium Terma (RJ) with Scandallo Boate (SP).
The major differences are:
Terma girls work for the house and the house sets the price which is the same for all girls. Rates are all inclusive but vary depending on the time and room size selected by the customer. Termas have small bars. Terma customers can change into a bath robe before entering the lounge area or not. It is up to you. Terma girls generally do not leave the Terma during their work shift unless the customer is willing to pay a prohibitory high fee designed to discourage such behavior.
Boate girls are independent contractors IE FLs, and their price can vary and is negotiated privately between the girl and a customer. The customer pays the girl directly after the session. A boate is a nightclub. Cover / entry fee & room fees are all separate expenses which are paid to the boate. Boate customers can take girls out of the club for an exit fee which is approximately the same price as a room charge. Customers never change clothes in a boate. On a typical Wed, Thurs, or Friday night Scandallo has maybe 150 girls or more girls hanging around, live musical entertainment, 3. 5 bars in full operation, plus a large restaurant.
These qualitative differences should be understood and considered before a 1st time visitor decides which destination suits his tastes and wallet. Termas are much cheaper than most boates. They also have less girls on hand, but the venue is still fun. Arguably the boates have a higher talent pool, but there are lovely exceptions to this. Therefore, it is up to the individual to figure out what these differences mean. Taste is in the eye of the beholder. There are nice girls to be found in both termas and boates. If you have the time, I suggest a visit to both cities to discover which road suits you best in the long run.
Maybe! When did you meet her?
This makes us milk brothers as we say in South America.
"Hermanos de chele" hahahahaha.
HiddenEye,
There's a very high probability that I have sessioned with and even briefly dated the lady in your photos. Or this could be her twin sister.
Steve great write up. I totally agree, with you. When I connect with a girl, we go all in GFE bareback. I usually bust my loads in her. If I see a girl that's a 9+ with great chemistry, then it normally goes like this. Day 1, we hook up, Day 2, we hook up again with more different positions, Day 3, we are BF & GF, total GFE, bareback in her pussy and asshole. Only a few get to Day 3 with me. But when they do make it to Day 3+, its glorious!!
I straddle her again and start massage, working my way down to her ass. As I grind her ass crack with my dick I push it down to her pussy opening and say I will just touch it. But soon she is grinding in a circle and starting to inch my dick inside her. Before long I am fully inserted bareback and it's on! Love that SHE did it not me. I just had to make the opportunity!
OMG. No words for bareback with this goddess. Just absolutely epic. We are drunk as fuck and so despite the ecstatic feel, we go forever, eventually collapsing from pure sweaty exhaustion. But what a fuckton of fun.
I agree with UniversalX. Its almost better to go solo then a group of dudes. No more than a 1 buddy if you must. Example: I get a bottle in the middle of area by the stage; let the girls drink, and I am surrounded by 5 of the hottest chicks on the planet. BTW having great fun conversations before I decide which I am taking upstairs. I'm good going solo or no more than 1 buddy LOL.
Probably 50% if not higher are Solo Mongers. Not an issue at all. Sure, you will find groups of 2 or more but it's not an advantage or disadvantage unless you need a wingman to have fun. None, absolutely none, of the Ladies care if you are alone / solo. I tend to think women approach Solo guys a little more! Just go relaxed and have fun.
Your eyes will lead you one. Talk to a few or many. Get WhatsApp/phone numbers from the ones you may want to plan to see outside and or at your hotel room (especially if you're staying in SP over the weekend/Sunday).
Then pick a winner to take up to the inhouse rooms to pop your Scandallo cherry.
This I Command!!! https://youtu.be/ljQ76hjwyzQ?si=iDU3qw8txzisKSk2.
Good luck, I look forward to reading about your experience at Scandallo!!
My personal favorite is Jardins due to the walkability great food spots and bars and shops. That's just my preference. And the traffic is not bad at all if you go to Scandallo after rush hour traffic. I have also stayed in Moema, etc. Etc. But I like the Jardins metro vibe.
Which neighborhoods and areas would you recommend or avoid staying in? I was thinking to book an airbnb near Scandallo since it might help avoid traffic.
Any experiences at Scandallo solo? Not big on smoking or drinking myself and based on reports it seems that's how you attract women with the name brand stuff and having a booth. Planning on visiting in June, and wondering if it'll be awkward if I went alone and got a booth for myself.
Don't see too many reports on freelancers or working girls on the street, if it exists at all here.
Krill bring back a lady to the Airbnb is never an issue. If the building has a security guard, hit him off with a small tip, he'll definitely always take care of you.
Planning a trip to SP and perusing through the thread I gather that there are very few hotels that are girl friendly. I am leaning towards AirbnB with a booking for two adults.
Anyone used AirbnB before at SP that has any issues with bringing in girls?
I figured since my booking is for two adults that, bringing in a girl should not be a problem.
I can private message and would like to get a head start if anyone has a list of reliable girls on Facebook that I can add on my mongering page and or any numbers to any women from Scandallo? I plan to visit Sao Paolo and Rio.
Much appreciated.
The Critic
02-29-24, 06:44
Krill bring back a lady to the Airbnb is never an issue. If the building has a security guard, hit him off with a small tip, he'll definitely always take care of you.Bad Advice. I cannot stress this enough, read the HOUSE RULES section and then contact the host prior to booking and ask if you are able to have a visitor(s). Sometimes the visitor's policy is written in the house rules section and sometimes not.
(Example if I contact say 2 Airbnb Hosts regarding their visitor (s) policy at best 1 or 2 will allow).
Not all Host will allow visitors and it's not always in their control, Condos are usually the most restrictive, because it's the policy of the residence / condo board. I have been given many valid reasons by hosts as to why they do not allow visitors (regardless of residence type) in their apartments or restrictions on when visitors are allowed and not wanting overnight visitors.
No matter the reason I let them know I understand their position and do not book with them. There is always a Host who will accept / allow visitor (s). You giving a Doorman / Security Guard / Staff a "tip" may not only put their job at risk but could also get you thrown out of the apartment for violation of Host policy.
Just ask the Host if they allow you to have visitor (s) if not find one that will. Violating or circumventing the Host House Rules can get you thrown out of the residence and potentially banned from Airbnb entirely. .
MasterRochi
02-29-24, 15:44
Hey, I arrived sao Paulo a few day ago, any recommendation of websites with hot escort or any great brothels? And what the prices? Thankyou!
I can private message and would like to get a head start if anyone has a list of reliable girls on Facebook that I can add on my mongering page and or any numbers to any women from Scandallo? I plan to visit Sao Paolo and Rio.
Much appreciated.Dude. Why would you want someone else's choices? You are going to pussy paradise in SP. Pick your own choices. There is so much available 24/7. Enjoy!!
Critic makes a good valid point. My suggestion was obviously after you do all your due diligence on the place. I was merely mentioning to get friendly with the guard in the front, after everything Critic talked about. You definitely don't want to get kicked out at 12 am LOL.
Bad Advice. I cannot stress this enough, read the HOUSE RULES section and then contact the host prior to booking and ask if you are able to have a visitor(s). Sometimes the visitor's policy is written in the house rules section and sometimes not.
(Example if I contact say 2 Airbnb Hosts regarding their visitor (s) policy at best 1 or 2 will allow).
Not all Host will allow visitors and it's not always in their control, Condos are usually the most restrictive, because it's the policy of the residence / condo board. I have been given many valid reasons by hosts as to why they do not allow visitors (regardless of residence type) in their apartments or restrictions on when visitors are allowed and not wanting overnight visitors.
No matter the reason I let them know I understand their position and do not book with them. There is always a Host who will accept / allow visitor (s). You giving a Doorman / Security Guard / Staff a "tip" may not only put their job at risk but could also get you thrown out of the apartment for violation of Host policy.
Just ask the Host if they allow you to have visitor (s) if not find one that will. Violating or circumventing the Host House Rules can get you thrown out of the residence and potentially banned from Airbnb entirely. .
An. Some dudes like sloppy seconds. Its a fetish of sorts, so I heard. Like the guy who likes to go last on a train.
Dude. Why would you want someone else's choices? You are going to pussy paradise in SP. Pick your own choices. There is so much available 24/7. Enjoy!!
MasterRochi. No disrespect. But if you read about 1-5 pages into this section, you will find all the info you need + more.
Hey, I arrived sao Paulo a few day ago, any recommendation of websites with hot escort or any great brothels? And what the prices? Thankyou!
MasterRochi. No disrespect. But if you read about 1-5 pages into this section, you will find all the info you need + more.He should also try doing some simple searches of these threads. His inquiry has been discussed ad nauseum here with many posts including lists of reputable websites to consider. In other words, RTFF first! There were no detailed responses (and won't be any) because the seasoned posters here long ago grew tired of fielding the same inquiries over and over and over again from lazy newbies. Read. Research. Learn. Then asked informed questions that demonstrate you've done some homework already. Then you'll get a better response from the readership.
Had a terrific night last week. Had one of the most gorgeous girls; slim waist, cute face, and a great booty. Love the slim waist and big booty.
I went to Bahamas Hotel Club (R. Dos Chans, 571, Moema) had a session with the slim waist, mirrors on the ceiling. Then I paid an exit fee for her and her friend inside Bahamas to go with me to Enigma Club (swingers). Oh man! Her friend ended up kissing this other girl who was with her boyfriend (allegedly, dude was from the UK LOL). Then my girls' friend and the new girl took it to by the stage area, and started eating each other out by the couch. Kissing each other all over. It was insane! Music was fun, drinks were great. Etc. Then ended up taking both girls from Bahamas back to my hotel for a final night cap. Both gave me BBBJ double top. We all ended up falling asleep, and woke up in the morning for a morning session, ordered them breakfast, and then they left about 10 am. What a great night. It always great when you find the outgoing fun girls, who are also chill.
Steve 9696
03-02-24, 02:11
Scandallo remains the king of the clubs; not just in Brazil but in the entire world! It is so large and luxe and packed with slim, built hotties that want to fuck you. Even the food is good for fuck sake. Heaven on earth and if you haven't been you have not lived a complete life.
I was traveling with my buddy Mark and we each logged multiple excellent experiences, banging 9 and 7 girls respectively, some multiple times. We hit Scandallo twice, Casarao once and the remainder dinner / hotel dates.
To understand how good São Paulo is, consider that the worst Boate experience of the combined experiences was me fucking a 9. 5 stunner named Isabella. And it was great by any other worldwide standard but decidedly mediocre for SP. Hahaha. Amazing.
Outside the boates, I will admit that Abobbora was underwhelming. Again it's not bad just doesn't compare to the Boates for me— some 7-8's but more fake tits. And sort of transactional. Just wasn't our scene.
Summarizing a few key points from my prior reports:
Scandallo rules. Luxe. Amazing vibe. 8-9+s. Don't rush. Spend time with the girls. Be prepared to spend some coin. Bring your own cigars. Beer is less than half mixed drinks price. Girls will ask 1500 but drop to 1000-1200 R when asked. Some may go lower but not the ones I wanted and I didn't push beyond a single counteroffer. Room 300. Class act is an understatement.
Casarao. Loud, crowded bar after midnight. Ghost town before midnight. Very reasonable cover and drinks. Lower brow local clientele and girls. 5-7 but some gems. Black TShirt and Jeans is de riguer. Found my 10 there. Maybe you will find urs?
Take Out. Some guys like to do takeout if the girls back to their rooms. General advice is do a session first to ensure the chemistry is there. Quite expensive at Scandallo and prob even out of my league and I feel pretty well off. Casarao take out def an option and I got lucky w Mia. If you haven't slept overnight intertwined with a 20-25 year old hottie of late, high recommend.
Sunday. Sunday bites. Use your week to find a couple boate girls who would see you Sunday. Pick your fave and have dinner or have a party at your hotel room. It can be as much fun as the clubs — just different. And really your best option for a Sunday.
Boate girl recap (I had three other girls not listed here):
Maria Scandallo. Lovely girl. Nice body. Kinda Italian looking. Great English. Hot enthusiast wet fuck.
Duda Scandallo. (I had her name wrong in my report). No English. Rockin hot body if you like a short girl. Enthusiastic. Nice session.
Mia Casarao. Stunning. Legit 10 face and body. And a truly nice girl who seemed to like me and smiled 24/7. Good solid sex and felt like a GF from moment 1. Highlight of the Boate girls by a wide margin.
Isabella Scandallo. Stunning. 9. 5 with reduction for fake tits. A bit mechanical in bed but all the right stuff. Excellent on the worldwide scale and just OK for Scandallo.
Lulana Scandallo. Very hot slim tall girl. Tiny A cups. Great attitude. And Extremely fun in the bedroom. A real wildcat.
And then of course there was Manu who I flew from Rio. Not a Boate girl. Met on Seeking a year ago. Hot as fuck and affection off the charts with 24/7 kissing and hand holding. Fucked five times in two days. Jesus what s wildcat. My top girl despite scoring Mia the Ten at Casarao.
What kind of 9's and 10's we are talking about in Scandallo? Give me examples, like Adriana Lima and Gisele looking women? Any photos of women I can see?
By Gisele Bundchen style you mean, blonde, tall, slim and classy? Yes there are. A few but there are. Not in clinicas, from my experience.
This kind of working girls mostly at specific events. Argentina and Brasil.
What kind of 9's and 10's we are talking about in Scandallo? Give me examples, like Adriana Lima and Gisele looking women? Any photos of women I can see?
Steve 9696
03-02-24, 20:34
What kind of 9's and 10's we are talking about in Scandallo? Give me examples, like Adriana Lima and Gisele looking women? Any photos of women I can see?First to clarify I have never seen a ten in Scandallo. In fact I've only run across two in my long life. One a Seeking Arrangement chick in Madrid and one at Casarao recently. That's it. Lifetime. Two tens.
I guess tastes vary because I don't even find Giselle attractive. A seven at best. Though Adriana Lima is super hot and you will def find that kind of girl there thonorob not those piercing eyes. My celebrity crushes run more to Jessica Alba in her late teens and twenties. And you can def see girls of that caliber at Scandallo. Not a pile of 9's but a large handful. To my taste Isa was a 9. 5. Nearly perfect but fake tits (well done) so prob a 9 after considering that.
A lot more 8's than 9's I think. But amazing in room experiences as well. No slackers at all save one bad pro decision I made two years ago.
Axel Heyst
03-02-24, 21:32
What kind of 9's and 10's we are talking about in Scandallo? Give me examples, like Adriana Lima and Gisele looking women? Any photos of women I can see?You can't trust the internet so I will never post pics of my girls.
By Gisele Bundchen style you mean, blonde, tall, slim and classy? Yes there are. A few but there are. Not in clinicas, from my experience.
Tall & slim is my new favorite type. I have met 3 in Scandallo and 1 in Bomboa. KKK. But I will always love slender spinners.
First to clarify I have never seen a ten in Scandallo. In fact I've only run across two in my long life. One a Seeking Arrangement chick in Madrid and one at Casarao recently. That's it. Lifetime. Two tens.
I guess tastes vary because I don't even find Giselle attractive. A seven at best. Though Adriana Lima is super hot and you will def find that kind of girl there thonorob not those piercing eyes. My celebrity crushes run more to Jessica Alba in her late teens and twenties. And you can def see girls of that caliber at Scandallo. Not a pile of 9's but a large handful. To my taste Isa was a 9. 5. Nearly perfect but fake tits (well done) so prob a 9 after considering that.
A lot more 8's than 9's I think. But amazing in room experiences as well. No slackers at all save one bad pro decision I made two years ago.I have to agree with you on this. I think Giselle is hot, especially in her younger days, but beautiful / not really. Adriana is hot. I would not turn a girl that looked like her away unless her price as stratospheric as it probably would be although you never know. A young Jessica; I think I would have take her upstairs regardless of price unless she was not nice during the audition.
Most of my Scandallo girls are in the 6. 5 to 7. 8 range ie real good looking girls with very friendly personalities if you know what I mean. KKK, At this level it all comes down to personality and attitude IMHO. A 10 is really a fantasy. I have attached an example of my 10, but she did not age well. Still, I envy the fuckers who knew her when she was hot.
Would you say there's a minimum mix of different nationalities at Scandallo or the other high end clubs like Asians, Russians, Etc, and are all these women slim or some curvier?
For those who have picked up Seeking girls, how do you usually converse with them, and what are the recommend safe parts of town to meet up with them or are they more willing to come straight to your room? I'm not sure how direct to be online, like just offer appointments and allowance. I don't have the best luck here in the states but since I'll be "richer" in this country, I'm hoping to improve those odds.
Would you say there's a minimum mix of different nationalities at Scandallo or the other high end clubs like Asians, Russians, Etc, and are all these women slim or some curvier?
For those who have picked up Seeking girls, how do you usually converse with them, and what are the recommend safe parts of town to meet up with them or are they more willing to come straight to your room? I'm not sure how direct to be online, like just offer appointments and allowance. I don't have the best luck here in the states but since I'll be "richer" in this country, I'm hoping to improve those odds.They are all Brazilians. You might meet a Colombian or a Venezuelan but it is rare. There might be a few Japas (Brazilian / japanese mix) but that is it. Girls come in all flavors and sizes.
I don't think Seeking is really necessary in SP with all the available options but give it a try if you wish.
Would you say there's a minimum mix of different nationalities at Scandallo or the other high end clubs like Asians, Russians, Etc, and are all these women slim or some curvier?
For those who have picked up Seeking girls, how do you usually converse with them, and what are the recommend safe parts of town to meet up with them or are they more willing to come straight to your room? I'm not sure how direct to be online, like just offer appointments and allowance. I don't have the best luck here in the states but since I'll be "richer" in this country, I'm hoping to improve those odds.Scandallo usually have more light-skinned girls compare to elsewhere, probably more educated on average.
You can take Seeking girls to any good restaurants, which are are numerous in SP. The first time I used translator, and you will have no problem if you make it clear that you don't speak the language. If they are on Seeking, they probably are looking for gringos. This answer your other question in Medellin. You don't have to pretend you are not gringo. If the Brazilian girl does show up to meet you, I would guess it's 90% they would go back with you. You can be direct about payment in Brazil or Colombia during your date if you want. Some may bring it up during online conversation.
It's easy to talk about sex in Colombia and Brazil. I never talk about sex with any regular women in USA. In Brazil and Colombia, my experience is that they would bring it up as a conversation topic when there is a chance, regardless of their social status.
What kind of 9's and 10's we are talking about in Scandallo? Give me examples, like Adriana Lima and Gisele looking women? Any photos of women I can see?If you have no problem with the cost, Scandallo is the club that is most likely to provide you with the satisfaction of having sex with the best looking girls in the business of selling sex. Unlike places like La Isla in Medellin, the girls hold back services like they don't want your business, Scandallo is the opposite. This is also true if we are talking about many clubs all over Brazil. The girl at Scandallo actually spend more than 1 hr with you if you are someone who like to chat romantically, that part is free.
Your two examples represent the North or Northeast of Brazil and South of Brazil. If you want to find someone like Lima, she has a typical facial appearance that actually is not hard to find in her home state. Gisele seems to be popular there too, because I see her pictures in the mall all the time, more than Lima.
It's hard to describe what is beauty. Some features can be improved, sometimes that is the difference of a girl being able to make a living at Scandallo or Tangara.
Fellows getting close to a trip to SP and now on the lookout for lodging choices. I am leaning towards love motels for long term use (a few days). Has anyone used love motels for long periods?
Any suggestion of which love motel will be closer to the clinicas / boates?
TY in advance to all feedback.
Fellows getting close to a trip to SP and now on the lookout for lodging choices. I am leaning towards love motels for long term use (a few days). Has anyone used love motels for long periods?
Any suggestion of which love motel will be closer to the clinicas / boates?
TY in advance to all feedback.Sounds like you're asking for trouble if you hang around a place where all the SW and their Jose's hang around imo who know you have money.
Going off this topic, what's the min and max I should spend for a 12 day trip in room / housing fees, and airbnb or hotel as I'm on a budget? I would stay in Sao Paulo and likely visit Rio as well from, and would like security and be able to bring girls anytime. Probably asking for too much, I know.
Purpose of the trip would be at least visit Scandallo, so would like to know the recommended days to visit, and same for Rio. Would land in Sao Paulo Thursday Morning, leave Sunday Night.
Off topic, do any of you pick up girls off the beaches for sex and anyone know why there aren't many pictures of Scandallo club inside or the girls who visit? Could not find anything from the Passport Bros video either. I do have PM access for any of these messages and appreciate all responses.
Fellows getting close to a trip to SP and now on the lookout for lodging choices. I am leaning towards love motels for long term use (a few days). Has anyone used love motels for long periods?
Any suggestion of which love motel will be closer to the clinicas / boates?
TY in advance to all feedback.No safes in motels I think. Plus, the ones that are best value for money are in the suburbs. Couple that with no breakfasts and some dodgy guests in the room next door (eg partying with drugs etc.), not sure it's a good idea. I did photo-sessions with a girl in 2 motels in SP, and if I remember right neither room had windows to the outside. It may feel like a a prison cell after a couple of days. There's a reason why such "moteis" get rented for a few hours at a time.
You will take a cab to the clinicas anyway (except if you stay in Moema within walking distance of 3 or 4 clinicas).
The accommodation problem in SP is the sky-high prices of hotels and AirBnbs. That's why if I go to Brazil again I'll go to Rio as it seems prices there are reasonable. I may stand corrected though.
No safes in motels I think. Plus, the ones that are best value for money are in the suburbs. Couple that with no breakfasts and some dodgy guests in the room next door (eg partying with drugs etc.), not sure it's a good idea. I did photo-sessions with a girl in 2 motels in SP, and if I remember right neither room had windows to the outside. It may feel like a a prison cell after a couple of days. There's a reason why such "moteis" get rented for a few hours at a time.
You will take a cab to the clinicas anyway (except if you stay in Moema within walking distance of 3 or 4 clinicas).
The accommodation problem in SP is the sky-high prices of hotels and AirBnbs. That's why if I go to Brazil again I'll go to Rio as it seems prices there are reasonable. I may stand corrected though.Thank you for the breakdown appreciate it.
Steve 9696
03-07-24, 15:25
No safes in motels I think. Plus, the ones that are best value for money are in the suburbs. Couple that with no breakfasts and some dodgy guests in the room next door (eg partying with drugs etc.), not sure it's a good idea. I did photo-sessions with a girl in 2 motels in SP, and if I remember right neither room had windows to the outside. It may feel like a a prison cell after a couple of days. There's a reason why such "moteis" get rented for a few hours at a time.
You will take a cab to the clinicas anyway (except if you stay in Moema within walking distance of 3 or 4 clinicas).
The accommodation problem in SP is the sky-high prices of hotels and AirBnbs. That's why if I go to Brazil again I'll go to Rio as it seems prices there are reasonable. I may stand corrected though.Not sure what sky high prices means. You can get a great 4 star hotel in SP in a nice part of the city for $60/ night. This is so cheap. I was amazed at how low priced hotels in SP are. High recommend on the Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege. Had a great attached restaurant, large outdoor pool compared to most. Totally girl friendly. Top notch.
Not sure what sky high prices means. You can get a great 4 star hotel in SP in a nice part of the city for $60/ night. This is so cheap. I was amazed at how low priced hotels in SP are. High recommend on the Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege. Had a great attached restaurant, large outdoor pool compared to most. Totally girl friendly. Top notch.Steve how is the acoustic in the rooms at Mercure Privilege?
Being it close to the airport.
Jimmy Boy 99
03-07-24, 17:37
Not sure what sky high prices means. You can get a great 4 star hotel in SP in a nice part of the city for $60/ night. This is so cheap. I was amazed at how low priced hotels in SP are. High recommend on the Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege. Had a great attached restaurant, large outdoor pool compared to most. Totally girl friendly. Top notch.Hotel prices are not cheap. Just check hotel websites and see how expensive they are. For example, the Mercure Ibirapuera Priviledge costs $115/ night.
https://all.accor.com/ssr/app/accor/rates/3124/index.en.shtml?dateIn=2024-03-13&nights=2&compositions=2&stayplus=false&snu=false&accessibleRooms=false&hideWDR=false&hideHotelDetails=true
Airbnb or apartment rentals are way cheaper. I am currently staying in an airbnb in the Mercure Priviledge for about $45/ might.
Steve 9696
03-07-24, 18:17
Hotel prices are not cheap. Just check hotel websites and see how expensive they are. For example, the Mercure Ibirapuera Priviledge costs $115/ night.
https://all.accor.com/ssr/app/accor/rates/3124/index.en.shtml?dateIn=2024-03-13&nights=2&compositions=2&stayplus=false&snu=false&accessibleRooms=false&hideWDR=false&hideHotelDetails=true
Airbnb or apartment rentals are way cheaper. I am currently staying in an airbnb in the Mercure Priviledge for about $45/ might.Def if you can get cheaper by Airbnb then by all means. My company doesn't allow Airbnb. But I would also say that particular Mercure is particularly nice. There are plenty of hotels for $60/ night. Plus I consider $120/ night cheap. I mean that's your basic Holiday Inn in the US.
Fellows appreciate the feedback on my inquiry about lodging choice. Special shoutout to XXL, Steve9696, and Jimmy Boy 99.
I am now down to three choices:
1. Mercure Privilege in ibirapuera.
2. Wyndham ibirapuera.
3. AirBnB in the same area of the two hotels listed above.
Need your help with pros and cons for each.
I would like to stay in the area because I think there are clinicas within walking distance from my choices above.
I would also intend to bring in a girl at some point during my trip so hopefully my choices will not give me a lot of hassle to bring a girl.
Lastly, definitely I will take a trip to scandallo so hopefully my choices are within close Uber ride.
Really need your pointers so I can make reservations.
TY in advance.
FilthyBeaver
03-07-24, 18:53
Ok Steve, you have singlehandedly put SP on my radar so I'm in data collection mode before an inevitable trip. Perusing our favorite site shows plenty I'd be interested in. $120 is indeed cheap for a good quality hotel but all of the 5 star luxury hotels are priced similar to any other city.
Based on the prices I've seen I don't consider Scandallo expensive per se. The price is the price. $100 to walk through the door with some food credit, $300 to bang a hot chick without negotiating. Probably about the same out of pocket as I'd spend on eastern European stripper take out. Assuming you don't go crazy on the booze. Let me know if I'm out of line but these prices don't sound crazy to me.
Def if you can get cheaper by Airbnb then by all means. My company doesn't allow Airbnb. But I would also say that particular Mercure is particularly nice. There are plenty of hotels for $60/ night. Plus I consider $120/ night cheap. I mean that's your basic Holiday Inn in the US.
Axel Heyst
03-07-24, 19:58
My advice is plan early. Once you know or think you know when you want to visit SP start looking for flights and hotels. Personally, I have sufficient funds to pretty much do whatever I like, but within limits sadly, on account of the fact that, I am not worth $20,000,000. KKK. So, I am willing to pay more for a flight with a no penalty for flight changes & enlarged leg room seating or whatever a particular airline wants to call extra leg room coach. I am also willing to pay up and book direct (non-stop) flights when available. I like business class too, but at double the price of extra legroom coach, it is just not worth it to me. My spending priorities are #1 any girls I want within reason, KKK, #2 any restaurant I want, #3 preferred 5-star hotels and if too costly then friendly, well located 4-stars will do. Having hotel points and voucher nights for many corporate hotel chains make the 5-star hotels feasible for me in SP because otherwise I would not stay at a joint like the Renaissance and pay over $250/ night. $180 cash for a 5 star right at my limit. I really do not like to pay that much.
But hotel prices in SP seem to have gone through the roof since Nov 2023-Jan 2024 and are severely testing my limit. For example, in November 2023, I stayed at the Hyatt for $125/ night for a week. For dates in June / July 2024 the Hyatt wants $180 or more when I booked a combined points & voucher reservation for a week in June 2024 at that hotel. I think they want even more $$$ for the same dates now. I also booked the Marriott Exec hotel for $125 for July, but I had to reserve 2 weeks in a row to get that rate. I believe this hotel is now asking $200 night which is unbelievable to me. KKK. But the surprise deal of my upcoming trip was with the JW Mariott for points. Usually that hotel is much more expensive in points or dollars than the Rennaissance. Not this time when I was looking, so I booked the JW for a bargain rate number of points (much cheaper than the Renaissance) and as a result, I am now out of Marriot points. KKK.
Anyway, all SP hotel prices across the board are going through the roof for June-August 2024 winter season. I have no idea of why except it must be function of demand, so I am glad I started booking my hotels back in January almost as soon as I got back home from my last trip. KKK. For example, in June 2023, I stayed for a week at the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi, a real nice 4 star hotel, for $85/ night. Now they are asking $180/ night for a week in June 2024. I could give many more examples.
But the key thing to keep in mind is that all my hotel reservations are refundable in points or of a pay later with no cancelation fee on the credit card type. That way if the hotel rates had declined from the time I booked, I could have easily cancelled my original reservations and made a new cheaper ones. Unfortunately, this is not happening this time around, but I am relatively happy because I locked in some pretty good rates for my upcoming trip which gets me back to my original piece of advice: plan early and book early.
Several off brand hotel chains also house individually owned condominium rooms and apartments that are on airbnb. It's sort of the best of both worlds.
Def if you can get cheaper by Airbnb then by all means. My company doesn't allow Airbnb. But I would also say that particular Mercure is particularly nice. There are plenty of hotels for $60/ night. Plus I consider $120/ night cheap. I mean that's your basic Holiday Inn in the US.
But hotel prices in SP seem to have gone through the roof since Nov 2023-Jan 2024 and are severely testing my limit. For example, in November 2023, I stayed at the Hyatt for $125/ night for a week. For dates in June / July 2024 the Hyatt wants $180 or more when I booked a combined points & voucher reservation for a week in June 2024 at that hotel. I think they want even more $$$ for the same dates now. I also booked the Marriott Exec hotel for $125 for July, but I had to reserve 2 weeks in a row to get that rate. I believe this hotel is now asking $200 night which is unbelievable to me. KKK. But the surprise deal of my upcoming trip was with the JW Mariott for points. Usually that hotel is much more expensive in points or dollars than the Rennaissance. Not this time when I was looking, so I booked the JW for a bargain rate number of points (much cheaper than the Renaissance) and as a result, I am now out of Marriot points. KKK. Anyway, all SP hotel prices across the board are going through the roof for June-August 2024 winter season. I have no idea of why except it must be function of demand, so I am glad I started booking my hotels back in January almost as soon as I got back home from my last trip. KKK. For example, in June 2023, I stayed for a week at the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi, a real nice 4 star hotel, for $85/ night. Now they are asking $180/ night for a week in June 2024. I could give many more examples.I totally agree! I was looking at hotels recently as I plan for my next trip to Brazil, and I was a little taken aback at the pricing. I saw plenty of properties asking for $180 a night and up, which is high for Brazil. I typically like to keep it at or under $150 a night, and that typically has never been a problem with plenty of good properties to choose from. I still found more than enough in my price range, but not as many as usual or located exactly where I want to be in every case. Like you, I'm not sure what's going on. You would think it's demand, but Brazilians don't think like North American businessmen. I mean, they'll do the exact opposite and raise prices on goods and services when demand is low instead of dropping prices in order to entice more people to spend more money. So, who knows?
Steve 9696
03-08-24, 03:54
Ok Steve, you have singlehandedly put SP on my radar so I'm in data collection mode before an inevitable trip. Perusing our favorite site shows plenty I'd be interested in. $120 is indeed cheap for a good quality hotel but all of the 5 star luxury hotels are priced similar to any other city.
Based on the prices I've seen I don't consider Scandallo expensive per se. The price is the price. $100 to walk through the door with some food credit, $300 to bang a hot chick without negotiating. Probably about the same out of pocket as I'd spend on eastern European stripper take out. Assuming you don't go crazy on the booze. Let me know if I'm out of line but these prices don't sound crazy to me.Hey FB. I recommend Mercure Privilege Ibirapuera fully. Best feature is the restaurant right downstairs. It's got a lovely terrace and the staff are great. We would pop down for a couple Caipirinhas and snacks and back up for round 2. It's just super convenient and food is good. There is an AMAZING sushi place just one block away called Peixe ao Cubo. Bar de Juarez is just a couple blocks to grab some chopp (draft beer) and picanha (amazing Brazilian cut of beef)
Scandallo is a 25 min uber. Uber is sooo inexpensive. That Scandallo ride costs $6 usd. LOL.
You are spot on on your Scandallo prices. If you party hearty its going to be $400 one girl and $800 two girls. Scandalous prices for Brazil. And totally cheap compared to a lot of the world. Yep you got it right.
FilthyBeaver
03-08-24, 04:20
I feel a report working it's way down my arm and into my fingers.
Hey FB. I recommend Mercure Privilege Ibirapuera fully. Best feature is the restaurant right downstairs. It's got a lovely terrace and the staff are great. We would pop down for a couple Caipirinhas and snacks and back up for round 2. It's just super convenient and food is good. There is an AMAZING sushi place just one block away called Peixe ao Cubo. Bar de Juarez is just a couple blocks to grab some chopp (draft beer) and picanha (amazing Brazilian cut of beef)
Scandallo is a 25 min uber. Uber is sooo inexpensive. That Scandallo ride costs $6 usd. LOL.
You are spot on on your Scandallo prices. If you party hearty its going to be $400 one girl and $800 two girls. Scandalous prices for Brazil. And totally cheap compared to a lot of the world. Yep you got it right.
Ok Steve, you have singlehandedly put SP on my radar so I'm in data collection mode before an inevitable trip. Perusing our favorite site shows plenty I'd be interested in. $120 is indeed cheap for a good quality hotel but all of the 5 star luxury hotels are priced similar to any other city.
Based on the prices I've seen I don't consider Scandallo expensive per se. The price is the price. $100 to walk through the door with some food credit, $300 to bang a hot chick without negotiating. Probably about the same out of pocket as I'd spend on eastern European stripper take out. Assuming you don't go crazy on the booze. Let me know if I'm out of line but these prices don't sound crazy to me.Between the Mercure Privilege Ibirupeura and Mercure Times Square I would definitely choose the latter. Both are located in Moema and offer pretty easy access to the clinicas. But the Mercure Times Square is much better situated in terms of being able to easily walk to restaurants, banks, grocery stores, and shopping. I even found a good barbershop nearby. It's also better placed in terms of avoiding airport noise. I found the rooms to be nicer at Times Square with better temperature control too. Yes, Privilege has the restaurant downstairs, but I didn't find it to be anything special and didn't like the service either. I preferred to eat elsewhere and only used the restaurant at times for convenience sake. There were usually taxis waiting outside for passengers so that was convenient as well. The neighborhood is also good, and I felt safe being out and about and walking at all times of day and night. I'm weighing in because I've stayed at both and most definitely have a strong preference for the Mercure Times Square over the Mercure Privilege for the reasons I've stated. Though no restaurant it's more modern and nicer in a better and more convenient location in Moema.
Anyone here booked a full day with a WG? There's an offer I'm tempted to.
Make with one who has positive review except I wouldn't really know what to do for 24 hours especially since I'll be staying in an Airbnb. At this point because of length, I'm assuming it would make sense to negotiate via text all we can do such as ask if she's open to BBFS or any other fetish I may have?
Just wondering what prevents her from leaving during this time period as well if I pay her upfront, we fuck for some hours, then she dashes once we go out to eat somewhere, or does all payment happen at the end.
FilthyBeaver
03-08-24, 16:10
If you're not sure what you'd do I'd definitely rethink this plan. If I'm going long term with someone there needs to be some amount of chemistry / mutual interest otherwise it's going to get awkward.
There are a million and one reasons why she couldn't and a million and two excuses why she wouldn't go long term. If she doesn't enthusiastically agree I'd be very skeptical. If you're worried about her bailing give her half up front and tell her you'll give her the other half at the end. If she's serious and likes you there won't be any problem.
Anyone here booked a full day with a WG? There's an offer I'm tempted to.
Make with one who has positive review except I wouldn't really know what to do for 24 hours especially since I'll be staying in an Airbnb. At this point because of length, I'm assuming it would make sense to negotiate via text all we can do such as ask if she's open to BBFS or any other fetish I may have?
Just wondering what prevents her from leaving during this time period as well if I pay her upfront, we fuck for some hours, then she dashes once we go out to eat somewhere, or does all payment happen at the end.
...... If you're worried about her bailing give her half up front and tell her you'll give her the other half at the end......You mean give money to a working girl who has done nothing for you?
Axel Heyst
03-08-24, 18:23
You mean give money to a working girl who has done nothing for you?Yeah, I mean how many times do we have to warn newbies not to pay in advance? I give up. The best piece of advice I can give someone who thinks along these lines is stay home.
FilthyBeaver
03-08-24, 18:37
Think what you want but if I decide to spend an entire day (or more) with someone, there has to be mutual interest in the person outside of sex and some amount of trust. If building that trust requires me to ante then that's what I'll do.
You mean give money to a working girl who has done nothing for you?
Anyone here booked a full day with a WG? There's an offer I'm tempted to..You can start with short time. If it works out, then you can get longer date. You should not be asked to pay before after first date. If she insist, NEXT. You problem is solved.
Anyone here booked a full day with a WG? There's an offer I'm tempted to.
Make with one who has positive review except I wouldn't really know what to do for 24 hours especially since I'll be staying in an Airbnb. At this point because of length, I'm assuming it would make sense to negotiate via text all we can do such as ask if she's open to BBFS or any other fetish I may have?
Just wondering what prevents her from leaving during this time period as well if I pay her upfront, we fuck for some hours, then she dashes once we go out to eat somewhere, or does all payment happen at the end.This is what I do but usually keep them for longer than a day. I enjoy the hunt at Scandello but then I am done after one or two nights. I don't have the social battery to be in those kind of places everyday trying out new girls. Having a connection is extremely important. And you can tell if there is a connection or not in a few minutes. I met a girl in Sept 2022 and she stayed the weekend with me. We had such a good connection that she was my only one for all of 2023 on all my trips to SP. It was so easy to just have her come over and not worry about being uncomfortable with each other. It was always BBFSCIP and she would do anal when she felt like it but it usually happened once or twice during the weekend. Unfortunately, she met someone early this year and I didn't get to see her on my last trip. But her relationship didn't work out so she got back in touch with me and maybe we will meet again in May.
To answer your questions. It all depends where you get her from. Like Scandello or a website or a clinica. I had some arrangements set up with girls from the web during Covid and then I had my last 2-3 girls set up from Scandello. Also, you need to make sure she understands you will pay her at the end of your time together. This way she won't bail on you. If she doesn't agree to payment at end, you can offer 50/50 and that is it. Do not offer to pay her up front. In your negotiations, you can ask for BBFS but make sure you have a recent STD test with you to put her at ease. Tell her what you are looking for and she will either do it or not. These girls have heard of everything so it isn't a shock to them.
Have fun and report back.
Think what you want but if I decide to spend an entire day (or more) with someone, there has to be mutual interest in the person outside of sex and some amount of trust. If building that trust requires me to ante then that's what I'll do.Well that makes sense. If you pay half up front and she never shows then you know that the session would have been bad.
FilthyBeaver
03-09-24, 19:28
Don't to offer a girl you've seen for the very first time a long term arrangement and give her anything up front. What I do is see them once or twice under standard "rules" f the venue which differ in different parts of the world. When I sense there's a connection and I REALLY like them I'll offer to see them outside of the venue. If they agree to the price I give them half when they show up at my door (on their dime) and immediately say I'll give them the other half when they leave (sometimes showing them the other half as I lock it in the safe). This has never failed me in any part of the world.
Don't pay any independent wg up front unless you're in the house's room. Sooner or later you'll get burnt.
Well that makes sense. If you pay half up front and she never shows then you know that the session would have been bad.
In regards to the overnight situation, I meant a upper end Professional Working Girl who has an active Twitter following and positive reviews, whom I've never met at all but was instantly attracted to her profile. Would be about 1,500 USD for the "day" along with any expenses of Food since hey I got to wine and dine her too, and I only considered this because I would have to fly her to me and really wanted to try her out. But I guess it would be far cheaper if I just flew myself to her and booked regularly.
On another note, do you all think Sao Paulo or Rio is worth it even on the rainy days? I'm looking at at least 5 constant days of heavy rain and thunderstorms Tues-Sunday on a potential 2 week visit this month, and I would want to hit up Scandallo on the "busiest" days of Wed and Thursday. Maybe the girls would settle for less because of the weather, or the best may not even show up at all.
Otherwise I'd have to wait until June, which may be pricier flight wise.
Woke up, it was drizzling, and saw some activity on the street thru my window. Wanted to check it out after breakfast. One of my favorite food item is pao na chapa. It's so common that I overlooked for a long time and now it is one of my favorite food. It's available all over Brazil but Sao Paulo is the best. It's crunchy and soft at the same time. You can treat it like toast and have the waiter add whatever you want. One of the best hot dog I have had was in Santa Catalina that has similar texture.
By the time I finished breakfast around 9:15, the even was at the end. I decided to follow the trail and reached the destination where there were different exercise or health related activities. On my way back I found a large crowd waiting at this cafe so I took note and plan to visit later. Discovery is one reason I like walking.
I stayed at different areas in Sao Paulo and there are always good bakeries around. I like them because I have most time in the morning. They are fast and you can ask them to make things how you want them. I don't prefer food that require explanation. Haha. I prefer girls that don't tell me her favorite restaurant is Nakka or some other famous ones. For the same type of girl, I prefer one with lower expection and tell me something that I don't know because it will last longer
Scheduled to have a date coming last night but she only sent me voice messages knowing that I have limited Portuguese. I got most of it but missed the part that she would come directly from work at a time earlier than I told her which caused some confusion because I had to deal with some house keeping problem in my apartment.
In regards to the overnight situation, I meant a upper end Professional Working Girl who has an active Twitter following and positive reviews, whom I've never met at all but was instantly attracted to her profile....Members are trying to tell you not do that. That's why some members said they give up advising people because some don't take advice. If they do, they would have read what have been written numerous times and not ask it again . You need to learn to walk before you run.
Don't pay before. Nothing is guaranteed but you will be on driver seat more if you pay after. Some girls will definitely bail on you even you pay after and it is a mater of how much you are going to pay her when she wants to leave. It makes no sense to make the girl stay when she does not want to. You need to read the context too. Anaggie maybe staying at a 5 star hotel. You are staying in an Airbnb and you will need to stock stuff well to provide the same level of comfort. I personally never pay for a girl to stay in Medellin, they just stayed that is part of the privilege of living there. I have a full fridge of drinks and food, and I can get many things quickly because they have delivery service to deliver things in 10 minutes. Medellin is very poor, most girls that we deal with don't have hot shower at home.
... I would want to hit up Scandallo on the "busiest" days of Wed and Thursday. Maybe the girls would settle for less because of the weather, or the best may not even show up at all.....Don't count on those days. Those days could be bad too. That's what some have written but when I went almost everyday of the week, Wednesday was dead, and Friday was not crowded but was great because the owner had invited agency girls to the club. Tuesday is good as it is like the start of the week. You need to take all posts into consideration to form a complete picture.
... I stayed at different areas in Sao Paulo and there are always good bakeries around. ....I had dinner at Margherita Pizzeria and I decided to walk back. I came across this bakery, Bella Paulista, which I knew about but forgot. I am pretty sure this one will be great based on the crowd.
I got a WhatsApp message from a woman I met elsewhere thru local friend. She said she miss me and like me. I think she had been waiting for me to make a move becasue there were hints. I asked if she knew I have left her city. She said she knew. I think she told me, although direct, because she knew it was too late. If you are wondering if she is hot. Only answer that people will believe is she looks ok. haha. But she is doing pretty well financially and independent based on what I have seen.
Axel Heyst
03-11-24, 13:16
I had dinner at Margherita Pizzeria and I decided to walk back. I came across this bakery, Bella Paulista, which I knew about but forgot. I am pretty sure this one will be great based on the crowd.
I like Margherita Pizzeria too. If there is a better pizza place in SP I would like to know about it. I can't find one better. Bella Paulista looks good. I too like to walk around various neighborhoods in SP and take note of interesting restaurants with lots of customers I come across. I know the neighborhood covering your evening walk from Margherita to Bella Paulista. If you don't mind my asking, where are you staying?
I like Margherita Pizzeria too. If there is a better pizza place in SP I would like to know about it. I can't find one better. Bella Paulista looks good. I too like to walk around various neighborhoods in SP and take note of interesting restaurants with lots of customers I come across. I know the neighborhood covering your evening walk from Margherita to Bella Paulista. If you don't mind my asking, where are you staying?I am staying in Santa Cecilia. I look for places with large work area, overlooking city skyline, with balcony, and preferably one bedroom.
I agree Margherita Pizzeria is top in terms for food quality and service. In the area I am currently staying. I may go to Veridiana for meeting date the first time. It's a little more romantic. Or Fôrno if I am alone or someone that I already know.
Gigi Buffon
03-11-24, 17:38
I like Margherita Pizzeria too. If there is a better pizza place in SP I would like to know about it. I can't find one better. Bella Paulista looks good. I too like to walk around various neighborhoods in SP and take note of interesting restaurants with lots of customers I come across. I know the neighborhood covering your evening walk from Margherita to Bella Paulista. If you don't mind my asking, where are you staying?Difficult choice because they are so many great pizzerias 'them São Paulo. However, Pizzeria Bráz and A Pizza the Moóca are always ranked among the best in São Paulo. I also like Camelo. Bráz (not too far from Marriott Executive Apartments) and Camelo have different stores spread around the city.
MasterRochi
03-11-24, 18:12
Hi, I have a few questions here.
1) has anyone ever tried getting girls phone numbers at scandallo and negotiate a better pricing during the day? Maybe inviting girls to your place for 500 Reais instead of 1000-1500?
I used to do it in Europe. Meet girls at boates, get their number and negotiate during the day.
2) Any recommended clinicas de massagems in Sao Paulo?
3) for those who been to casarao. If going out with the girl, have to pay 150 fee, and their drinks, is that correct?
Thanks.
I agree with Anaggie. I love my BBFSCIP girls. What I do normally, is have two, three, or sometimes four on my line up rotation. All 9. 5+ stunners, nothing less. (Don't get me wrong, I'll bang a 7 if she has some crazy booty that I love but face is eh. LOL). But for GFE she has to be a stunner. I'll call them up. If one is unavailable that week, for whatever reason she wants to say, then I call the next one. Like Anaggie, my #1 on the line up one time said she's in a relationship, I said, we'll keep in touch on instagram, then I called my #2. But I am always on the look out for keep a stable of at least 2 on rotation. Once I land, I connect with whichever, we go to local clinic, I pay for her std rapid tests, you can take PrEP for extra caution, if all is good, then BBFSCIP on FULL Throttle LOL. Once you established a GFE with them, they always don't mind getting most (if not all) of the money at the end. Especially, if I am paying for her cab ride, and the dining, and shopping. It's normally all good.
This is what I do but usually keep them for longer than a day. I enjoy the hunt at Scandello but then I am done after one or two nights. I don't have the social battery to be in those kind of places everyday trying out new girls. Having a connection is extremely important. And you can tell if there is a connection or not in a few minutes. I met a girl in Sept 2022 and she stayed the weekend with me. We had such a good connection that she was my only one for all of 2023 on all my trips to SP. It was so easy to just have her come over and not worry about being uncomfortable with each other. It was always BBFSCIP and she would do anal when she felt like it but it usually happened once or twice during the weekend. Unfortunately, she met someone early this year and I didn't get to see her on my last trip. But her relationship didn't work out so she got back in touch with me and maybe we will meet again in May.
To answer your questions. It all depends where you get her from. Like Scandello or a website or a clinica. I had some arrangements set up with girls from the web during Covid and then I had my last 2-3 girls set up from Scandello. Also, you need to make sure she understands you will pay her at the end of your time together. This way she won't bail on you. If she doesn't agree to payment at end, you can offer 50/50 and that is it. Do not offer to pay her up front. In your negotiations, you can ask for BBFS but make sure you have a recent STD test with you to put her at ease. Tell her what you are looking for and she will either do it or not. These girls have heard of everything so it isn't a shock to them.
Have fun and report back.
I always do it. First round in the boate, after a long conversation to check chemestry. After first round girls always give me the zapzap number and more important, reply the messages.
Then I propose more intimate visual production for our second encounter and most of the times we end up f**ing again after the shoot.
I have great walking tour videos about clinicas in SP. Drop me a pm for more specific info.
Hi, I have a few questions here.
1) has anyone ever tried getting girls phone numbers at scandallo and negotiate a better pricing during the day? Maybe inviting girls to your place for 500 Reais instead of 1000-1500?
I used to do it in Europe. Meet girls at boates, get their number and negotiate during the day.
2) Any recommended clinicas de massagems in Sao Paulo?
3) for those who been to casarao. If going out with the girl, have to pay 150 fee, and their drinks, is that correct?
Thanks.
Axel Heyst
03-11-24, 22:50
I always do it. First round in the boate, after a long conversation to check chemestry. After first round girls always give me the zapzap number and more important, reply the messages. Hey Hidden, you do it / I do it / we all do it: that is we meet girls in the boate, audition them, have a good time drinking with them and test driving them, and if they pass the audition, we take them upstairs for a boom boom. It is the way its done. Afterwards you / me / everybody collects numbers of the girls we really like so we can arrange outside personal arrangements if WE want to. I end up not calling back most girls becasue there are so many great girls to play with, why bother, but occasionally I meet a keeper and I want to see more of her. KKK.
But what I think the OP was asking, was can one skip the in-house 1st session and by doing so somehow get a lower rate from a girl for a later assignation and save money. KKK. Now while this delay tactic might work with a Clinica or RJ Terma girl when she is not at work by dealing the house out of the transaction; for a boate girl the answer is no because a boate girl will always want her minimum fee, say X br for a session in or out of the boate. And since the customer has already paid a Boate entry fee to get into the club, the only savings he can achieve with this delay tactic is the room fee and +200 br is not worth putting off getting laid. IMHO. Also, one always has the option of taking a girl out of the boate, but the exit fee is set near the same amount as the room fee, so unless one wants LT right off the bat with a specific girl, it don't make much sense to take a girl I just met out of the club. That said, I have done it once or twice or three times with certain girls, and I have no regrets, but there was no real benefit to it either.
And what usually happens when I hook up with my repeat boate girls is I don't get a lower rate, I either get a little more time / an little more sex, or the upsell of a lot more time and a lot more sex. But outside the club hotel dates come with their own costs ie Uber, refreshments, and dinner. So for me I like seeing a few special girls repeatedly at my hotel and we make a night out of it, with no real savings involved, but with most girls, I enjoy doing them one or two times in the club and moving on.
I always do it. First round in the boate, after a long conversation to check chemestry. After first round girls always give me the zapzap number and more important, reply the messages.
Then I propose more intimate visual production for our second encounter and most of the times we end up f**ing again after the shoot.
....I think he wants to know if you get 50% or more off, without a session first.
Let me think. A couple of times, girls I had already sessioned, introduced me to her friends in the boate, and without sessioning we later met. Let's say "this is my friend bla bla bla" and made the contact.
But no big discount.
I think he wants to know if you get 50% or more off, without a session first.
You can start with short time. If it works out, then you can get longer date. You should not be asked to pay before after first date. If she insist, NEXT. You problem is solved.One of the most basic rules of this hobby. Always do a short test drive before committing to a longer date.
FilthyBeaver
03-12-24, 04:04
What's a clinica? Met a girl on seeking who says she is a professional (as in lawyer, Dr, accountant.) but also says she works in a clinica.
It's mentioned on this thread in several posts and Google is no help whatsoever.
UniversalX
03-12-24, 08:19
Hi, I have a few questions here.
3) for those who been to casarao. If going out with the girl, have to pay 150 fee, and their drinks, is that correct? Thanks.Op's question not answered. Anyone know? Is there any way to get around the fee?
But what I think the OP was asking, was can one skip the in-house 1st session and by doing so somehow get a lower rate from a girl for a later assignation and save money. KKK. Now while this delay tactic might work with a Clinica or RJ Terma girl when she is not at work by dealing the house out of the transaction; for a boate girl the answer is no because a boate girl will always want her minimum fee, say X br for a session in or out of the boate. And since the customer has already paid a Boate entry fee to get into the club, the only savings he can achieve with this delay tactic is the room fee and +200 br is not worth putting off getting laid. IMHO. Also, one always has the option of taking a girl out of the boate, but the exit fee is set near the same amount as the room fee, so unless one wants LT right off the bat with a specific girl, it don't make much sense to take a girl I just met out of the club. That said, I have done it once or twice or three times with certain girls, and I have no regrets, but there was no real benefit to it either.
And what usually happens when I hook up with my repeat boate girls is I don't get a lower rate, I either get a little more time / an little more sex, or the upsell of a lot more time and a lot more sex. But outside the club hotel dates come with their own costs ie Uber, refreshments, and dinner. So for me I like seeing a few special girls repeatedly at my hotel and we make a night out of it, with no real savings involved, but with most girls, I enjoy doing them one or two times in the club and moving on.So, what you and others are saying is there is No Price Reduction (Discount/Lower Rate) from a Scandallo (or Boate girls in general) to meeting them outside of Boate (day / evening). So, if no discount why bother to meet outside? What advantage? It would seem that a discount should be had but I understand if girls want to hold pricing the same whether inside or out. .
It would now seem that your costs now increase since you're now providing for food / snacks / dinner / drinks / transportation and any other miscellaneous costs in addition to base rate. Not to mention upsell for more time or special x request. Again, why bother just do in Boate and forget outside since No advantage??
Op's question not answered. Anyone know? Is there any way to get around the fee?
So, what you and others are saying is there is No Price Reduction (Discount/Lower Rate) from a Scandallo (or Boate girls in general) to meeting them outside of Boate (day / evening). So, if no discount why bother to meet outside? What advantage? It would seem that a discount should be had but I understand if girls want to hold pricing the same whether inside or out. .
It would now seem that your costs now increase since you're now providing for food / snacks / dinner / drinks / transportation and any other miscellaneous costs in addition to base rate. Not to mention upsell for more time or special x request. Again, why bother just do in Boate and forget outside since No advantage??Honestly, just meet up with a girl and ask her. It's not like these girls have their donations posted on a website. Not one senior here is going to know how much a girl they've never met charges. Go to Scandallo, pay her asking rate at the bar, then find out the next day. Try offering long term and multiple visits a week. It's that simple.
I like Margherita Pizzeria too. If there is a better pizza place in SP I would like to know about it. I can't find one better. Bella Paulista looks good. I too like to walk around various neighborhoods in SP and take note of interesting restaurants with lots of customers I come across. I know the neighborhood covering your evening walk from Margherita to Bella Paulista. If you don't mind my asking, where are you staying?I really like these two places.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HEKu1ekUUmgk5Maa8?g_st=ic
https://maps.app.goo.gl/RyeMXS524FxF2RBN7?g_st=ic
Op's question not answered. Anyone know? Is there any way to get around the fee?The way I do it is to talk to the girl to cut a deal that she would agree to leave with me when her shift is over. There is no fee to pay whatsoever. I find a seat to wait and see the girl going to hotel with her stream of customers to have sex, very pleased knowing that I have saved money. Hehe.
I really like these two places.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HEKu1ekUUmgk5Maa8?g_st=ic
https://maps.app.goo.gl/RyeMXS524FxF2RBN7?g_st=icSeems we need a new thread around here. Food in Brazil.
What's a clinica? Met a girl on seeking who says she is a professional (as in lawyer, Dr, accountant.) but also says she works in a clinica.
It's mentioned on this thread in several posts and Google is no help whatsoever.You can ask what type of clinica. It could be law clinic or dental clinic.
Axel Heyst
03-12-24, 20:21
I really like these two places.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HEKu1ekUUmgk5Maa8?g_st=ic
https://maps.app.goo.gl/RyeMXS524FxF2RBN7?g_st=icHey Anaggie, I have been to Leggera Pizza Napoletana Jardins and I liked the restaurant. It is a very friendly, neighborly place and they made me a tasty pizza. But I think it is a shade below Margherita Pizzeria.
I have walked past La Braciera Pizzaria on Alameda Lorena many times on my walkabouts during the daytime and it looked like a nice, classy place from the outside. (It was always closed during my walks.) I will be sure to check it out one night on my next SP visit. Thanks,
A. H.
P.S. To Cane, yes, by all means, start up a Food in Brazil or better yet a Food in Sao Paulo thread. I have been thinking about writing up a "my favorite SP restaurants" report for some time. I would be happy to post to this new thread.
The Critic
03-12-24, 21:43
Seems we need a new thread around here. Food in Brazil.I concur, excellent idea for the foodies (FM. Food Mongers) here. It would be especially useful for those who seek good dining spots for either solo or date dining.
I concur, excellent idea for the foodies (FM. Food Mongers) here. It would be especially useful for those who seek good dining spots for either solo or date dining.Like this thread (Mexico has a serious food culture): http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3698-Food-in-Tijuana.
The Critic
03-13-24, 06:49
P.S. To Cane, yes, by all means, start up a Food in Brazil or better yet a Food in Sao Paulo thread. I have been thinking about writing up a "my favorite SP restaurants" report for some time. I would be happy to post to this new thread. Or Sao Paulo Gastronome (a Gastronome is a lover of good food with a refined appreciation for culinary delights.)
Seems we need a new thread around here. Food in Brazil.Some food for you Cane.
Maybe not a discount in the $ money amount, per say. But she'll spend more time with you for the same money. And give that GFE, call her friends to come over too, if you both have a good connection, its a much better experience. Getting BBBJ on the cab ride to our dinner event, or BBCIP in a changing room of a high end shopping store, etc. LOL.
Op's question not answered. Anyone know? Is there any way to get around the fee?
So, what you and others are saying is there is No Price Reduction (Discount/Lower Rate) from a Scandallo (or Boate girls in general) to meeting them outside of Boate (day / evening). So, if no discount why bother to meet outside? What advantage? It would seem that a discount should be had but I understand if girls want to hold pricing the same whether inside or out. .
It would now seem that your costs now increase since you're now providing for food / snacks / dinner / drinks / transportation and any other miscellaneous costs in addition to base rate. Not to mention upsell for more time or special x request. Again, why bother just do in Boate and forget outside since No advantage??
I only eat food when its off her phat booty LOL.
Some food for you Cane.
Some food for you Cane.Definitely "food for thought" LOL! No, forget the thought. What we need is action LMAO!
Asking for a discount was not in discussion, and I didn't know I was going to save the taxi.
Leaving from Unicred Vila Mariana to get her little present, her "graninha".
I wanted to try some new love motel spots without paying to try them with some help here. These are the ones I found that say their the best in Sao Paulo. Has anyone been to any of these or recommend a different one from the list. I have been to Lush, and it was pretty nice. A lot of mirrors, drinks, dim strobe lights, etc.
1. Lush.
2. Opium Motel.
3. Intense motel.
4. Apple Motel.
5. Adrenalina motel.
So many more.
Here a very complete guide:
https://www.guiademoteis.com.br
From these, I know emooes and the classic Asturias in SP.
I wanted to try some new love motel spots without paying to try them with some help here. These are the ones I found that say their the best in Sao Paulo. Has anyone been to any of these or recommend a different one from the list. I have been to Lush, and it was pretty nice. A lot of mirrors, drinks, dim strobe lights, etc.
Awesome resource. Thanks, HiddenEye. Will be looking through this all weekend. Picking my next fave spot!! BBFSCIP baby!
Here a very complete guide:
https://www.guiademoteis.com.br
From these, I know emooes and the classic Asturias in SP.
FilthyBeaver
03-16-24, 07:23
I keep seeing the word clinica associated with mongering in some posts. Of course I can't find one to cite right now. But could it possibly be a play on words like "cat house"?
You can ask what type of clinica. It could be law clinic or dental clinic.
FilthyBeaver
03-16-24, 07:27
I've been to scandallo and no it is not worth fucking a girl there. It is worth having dinner there once to credit against the consumable, but "then go to the clinicas which are world class".
How is the word clinica used here relate to a "legitimate" dental / medical clinic.
You can ask what type of clinica. It could be law clinic or dental clinic.
World Jockey
03-16-24, 22:58
But let's not forget Classic Hotel which resembles an inexpensive RJ Terma on super, super, super, steroids. Come to think of it, Classic is more like Casaro in this respect. But imagine 3 floors with hundreds and hundreds of young Indonesian girls on each floor and with the cost of a girl less than at Casaro. I mean seriously this is a must-see joint! You are either going to love it or hate it. It ain't like Scandallo, no way, but I will bet good money, you will love it.
Sorry for bringing up an oldish post and derailing SP forum off the tracks. I was was RTFF to get myself acquainted with SP for my maiden voyage.
Think I found all the info I need too in the past 40 pages. No one wants to be "that guy" asking all the silly questions.
That said, kudos to you showing some love to SEA outside of the SEA forums. I'm usually shocked that I don't see Jakarta being mentioned more. I guess its a mix of the distance and maybe fellas not being into asian girls.
When I went to classics I was highly impressed. Not only was the place awesome it was awesome while being in a muslim country. While I do like Indonesian I find Vietnamese to be the hottest. Unfortunately things are not so laid out there. Well at least not in Saigon.
Back to SP talk. Dam there are a ton of clinicas available. These are usually my goto. I think I have at least 20 on my hit list. It just may be worth going thru the pain of Lulas visa.
Anyhow will report back after my trip.
Steve 9696
03-17-24, 02:27
I keep seeing the word clinica associated with mongering in some posts. Of course I can't find one to cite right now. But could it possibly be a play on words like "cat house"?Clinica is of course a word referring to any type of clinic. Herein however it means "facade of a massage clinic for the sole purpose of paid sex". It's really not helpful to go to google maps for clinicas. Because you get dental and other types and you don't know what's what.
But that's ok. Because it's just spelled out here. Some of them are:
Tangara.
Miruna.
Prime.
Enjoy.
I am sure some worth board member can tell us a fairly exhaustive list. Many of them are in the Moema district.
FilthyBeaver
03-17-24, 03:02
So when this really beautiful young professional (or so she says) told me she worked in a clinica I didn't know if it was a clinic or massage place. Turns out her English isn't the best but I will definitely not be holding that against her. Really quite stunning and I don't say that very often. Ty again seeking!
Clinica is of course a word referring to any type of clinic. Herein however it means "facade of a massage clinic for the sole purpose of paid sex". It's really not helpful to go to google maps for clinicas. Because you get dental and other types and you don't know what's what.
But that's ok. Because it's just spelled out here. Some of them are:
Tangara.
Miruna.
Prime.
Enjoy.
I am sure some worth board member can tell us a fairly exhaustive list. Many of them are in the Moema district.
When I go to tangara's website and try to WhatsApp them, WhatsApp is saying they are not on the app and I can send them an invite. Is there a hidden number or something?
Its like that sometimes. I don't even whatsapp these places anymore. I just show up. Some of them are close enough that you can just hop to the next one if there arent any you like at that location you started with.
When I go to tangara's website and try to WhatsApp them, WhatsApp is saying they are not on the app and I can send them an invite. Is there a hidden number or something?
How does what work exactly? Will answer, hopefully my assumptions are correct that you are asking how do I get her to agree to BBFS and BBFSCIP = bareback-full-service-cum-in-pussy. Well, besides my great looks and charm LOL just kidding; First I treat her like a lady, like fine wine, then we agree to go to clinic (which I pay) for her to get tested. At the clinic or pharmacy they also provide one-day pills birth control if she is not already on BC. If you want extra caution, you can take PrEM. If all is good, tests are good, then its BBFSCIP. I do this for the ones I think I want to make my GFE's. I normally keep 2 to 3 on BBFS GFE status. Some don't agree, all good, then I just blow their back out with a condom on, then move on to the next stunner. But the one's that agree, love it, because I take them out to dinner, we go shopping, true GFE experience, and they'll BBBJ on the taxi drive to the mall, as an example. Its great when you find a good one.
Hold up. Bare back full service? For my own curiosity, how does that work? Do you have to show exams or?
NoBuglyFitches
03-18-24, 23:48
go to clinic (which I pay) for her to get tested. What clinic do you use in SP for STD testing? How long does it take to get the results?
Every city, big or small, industry, beach front, has the moteis zone, so you can find love moteis for every budget, with big signs on the roads. From obscure basic ones, fetiche themed, till entire bungalows with every imaginable pool, cascade, showers, jacuzzi, pool bar, steam and dry saunas, etc.
This is because midclass brazilians live mostly in small apartments, and making s*x can be uncomfortable for the rest of the family. Lovers need a place to love, of course. And this country has thousands of interesting cities in the interior. Thousands.
It's simply another stuff f*cking outdoors in those moteis, next to a pool, cold beer, palm trees, sunset and those gorgeous women, helicopters flying by. Maybe something you can experience in Hawai or Miami for thousands of bucks. And the moteis in Brasilia, the city of the government, the talent walking on those bars, let me tell you! Politics and power bring lots of them. Expensive in brazilian terms.
Most pics 1500 Km inside Brasil. Very hot places indeed, expect 90-100 F in hot days.
Awesome resource. Thanks, HiddenEye. Will be looking through this all weekend. Picking my next fave spot!! BBFSCIP baby!
Typically, I stay in Jardins. Inside the Jardins Hospital there is clinic that conducts these rapid tests. You can do the same if you are Moema, or wherever else. First go to the hospital, ask for the service, and if they do not provide it they will give you the address close by to do so. However, Jardins and Moema hospital has a clinic inside. Go early!! Since this is a not an emergency, which it is an emergency for us because we want to fuck ASAP LOL, but for them they will make you wait. So go early, 8 am or so. Otherwise, if you go in the afternoon you will wait a few hours. You get results on the spot. Either you will both be leaving together in a taxi, or you will be sending her home. Either way, its a win win for you. Good luck.
Hospital Jardins, are. Artur de Azevedo, 1659 - Pinheiros, So Paulo. SP, 05404-013, Brazil.
What clinic do you use in SP for STD testing? How long does it take to get the results?
Great information RealShaun. What kind of tests do you usually get and how much does it cost at these clinics?
Typically, I stay in Jardins. Inside the Jardins Hospital there is clinic that conducts these rapid tests. You can do the same if you are Moema, or wherever else. First go to the hospital, ask for the service, and if they do not provide it they will give you the address close by to do so. However, Jardins and Moema hospital has a clinic inside. Go early!! Since this is a not an emergency, which it is an emergency for us because we want to fuck ASAP LOL, but for them they will make you wait. So go early, 8 am or so. Otherwise, if you go in the afternoon you will wait a few hours. You get results on the spot. Either you will both be leaving together in a taxi, or you will be sending her home. Either way, its a win win for you. Good luck.
Hospital Jardins, are. Artur de Azevedo, 1659 - Pinheiros, So Paulo. SP, 05404-013, Brazil.
SocratesNY
03-20-24, 11:56
Op's question not answered. Anyone know? Is there any way to get around the fee?The only way to avoid the take out / saida fee is if the girl is finished with her shift and meets you after. She can either meet you at your hotel, your Airbnb or a love motel. I had one girl meet me around the corner from Scandallo! She only worked there for 1 week and hated them making extra money that she felt they didn't deserve. And she was a smart cookie, as I ended up giving her more than our agreement, as I saved on Saida fee.
If she tells the club she is leaving with a client, even though she is done with her shift, the club will still make you pay a saida fee. I had a newbie do that.
You aren't required to buy drinks or food for the girls. I see few guys buy drinks for girls at Casarso. Not buying a drink for a girl stands out more in Scandallo though. I think a drink is a small price to pay to take up her time to chat. A drink can get you 30-60 min with a girl. I usually don't offer to buy a drink right away. If I am interested in a girl, I would chat her up for about 5 minutes. If she passes the initial interview / chat, then I buy her a drink to talk more. If you have a bottle or a bucket of beers, you can also offer her from your "stash" I do find most girls drink gin with a mixer. Usually redbull tropical. So often times I have a bottle of gin for them and a bottle of single-malt for me.
There are a few low-class girls who will hit you up for a drink on introduction so I blow those off. One time a girl spilled her drink near my friend while walking by and asked him to get her a replacement! He doesn't even know her and hasn't spoken to her. And she almost spilled the wine on his pants! WTF!
I usually save offering food after I've spent awhile with a girl and have locked her down for the evening in terms of an overnight agreement. Other times I might offer food, if I am eating in the restaurant and a girl I am interested in chats with me a bit there.
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So, what you and others are saying is there is No Price Reduction (Discount/Lower Rate) from a Scandallo (or Boate girls in general) to meeting them outside of Boate (day / evening). So, if no discount why bother to meet outside? What advantage? [I]It would seem that a discount should be had but I understand if girls want to hold pricing the same whether inside or out.
It would now seem that your costs now increase since you're now providing for food / snacks / dinner / drinks / transportation and any other miscellaneous costs in addition to base rate. Not to mention upsell for more time or special x request. Again, why bother just do in Boate and forget outside since No advantage??From my experience, there isn't much of a price reduction to seeing them outside. I prefer seeing girls for overnights or full 24 days, but do occasionally see them for 2-4 hour dates during the day.
Here are what I consider the pros and cons to seeing a girl outside:
1. I get to fuck in the comfort of my own room, with more space, better lighting, in a bed that some other guy hadn't fucked in 15-30 min ago. Depending on venue (hotel, Airbnb, love motel), there can be additional amenities that are positives (room service, amazing themed rooms, private pools, stripper poles, balconies to smoke at, etc.).
2. You save on the exit / saida fee (R300 at Scandallo) if you aren't taking them out right away and agree to meet up later. If are doing a short time meeting at your place, you also save on the in-house hotel fee, which can add up if you need more than 30 min to an hour (R250 per hour at Scandall). Even at 1 hour, you are saving money if you pay for the girl's Uber both ways.
In your example comparison where dinner, drinks snacks are considerations. It would seem to imply that it's going to be at least 24-hour date. So to do that in-house, that's a hefty in-house hotel bill, where they charge by the hour. The food, whether eating in the restaurant before going to the room or doing room service from their restaurant isn't cheap either.
3. As for transportation, Uber is super cheap in Brazil. Not all girls ask for Uber fee. Some ask for both ways, some just for return, and some none at all. And she is wasting time to travel to you and back home. She is also spending additional time getting ready JUST FOR YOU! She could be spending upwards or 2-3 hours extra time on top of your "fun time" just to see you! Finally, you get the convenience of the girl coming to you so YOU save time!
A lot of these benefits might not be useful for you or other guys. One of my friends would find very little value in almost all of the above.
He usually only does 30 min sessions and only do 1-hour sessions if it's the minimum time. He doesn't care much about socializing with the girl or chatting them up. He doesn't care much for foreplay or fooling around before. He doesn't care about taking a girl out for a meal. He doesn't care about taking a girl out to a dance club, swing club, or have her be his tour guide around town. You can't do any of the above "in-house". He just want a convenient fast fuck and then to get back to the boys to hang and drink until he wants another.
There are lots of other benefits not tied to economics of seeing a girl outside of the boate.
1) They usually are in a more relaxed mood, especially if you are staying in a nice hotel / Airbnb, such as a hotel suite or a penthouse Airbnb. Some love hotels are also amazing in this way. You are also their first and possible only client of the day depending on the time and duration of meeting so you aren't getting sloppy seconds or thirds for the day. If it's an overnight or full day date, they aren't stressed about trying to make whatever their daily quota is and can just relax with you. It's also easier for them (and you too) to pretend it's just a GF or friend with benefits you are hanging out with.
2) As you control the venue, there is less chance of a scam. They can't cry to the club that you broke the agreement and have the club security force you to pay, etc. There is no way hotel security would take her side, especially if you are a frequent loyal customer.
I had one girl try that with me by insisting I pay her first. I told her I don't do that she can leave if that's her rule. She said I wasted her evening and that if I didn't pay her full overnight full rate, she'would call hotel security and the police. I called her bluff and picked up the phone and told her to hit 0 for reception. She quickly tried to take that back and salvage the date by first asking if I can pay half now and the rest later. I still refused and she finally said she would be okay with me paying after, but my mood was gone by then so told her to just leave and I will pay her for her time for dinner and at the club based on a prorated amount for our overnight date. She had been doing a lot of other drama queen BS before us going back to the hotel so this was the last straw for me. Pulling the security and police card.
She was among the hottest girl at Scandallo with some English skills so very popular. She also can be quite charming and elegant when she wants to be. She probably gets away with a lot of shit due to her beauty, but I was at my limit with her. Her name is Maria, although there are other Maria's at Scandallo. She looks like a hot sexy Tiffany Amber Thiessen with a great smile, dimples and a rocking body. I don't mind saying her name as she ended up being one of the few bad experiences I had in Brazil. A shame she was also top 3 or 5 in looks too. She might be a good in-house girl and it's always YMMV in this game. I did test drive her in-house first due to her very high rate and she performed well there.
3) You get to fuck at the venue and environment you choose. You get to fuck in a cleaner room, a room where a stranger hasn't fucked in just earlier. You might have a nicer, bigger, higher, more study bed, with more pillows and better linens. You might have a nice suite with a tub, jacuzzi or big rainfall shower to fool around and even fuck in.
I had a room in Lush with its own private pool, private tanning area and stripper pole. We started with her dancing on the pole, then some lap dances, then fooled around in the pool, then relaxing on lounge chairs smoking a joint she rolled, and then fucked there under the retractable ceiling. We then fucked in the big super large comfortable bed with disco lights providing ambiance. And then fucked again under the rainfall shower.
Another time, I was in a big hotel suite with a balcony, full kitchen, living room, a jacuzzi and the largest rainfall shower I've ever seen in a hotel, all with a view of the bridge they call the Postcard of Sao Paulo. Suffice to say, we fucked all over the suite, from the balcony outside to the living room sofa to the dining room table, with her up against the floor to ceiling windows, in the jacuzzi, the humongous shower. The most boring place we did it was on the bed!
4) You have more control over the time and duration of your meeting, so you can schedule a meeting right after work, during lunch or before / after meeting friends for dinner. I've had friends had girls come over when they were working for a Zoom call BJ fetish they wanted to satisfy. I am too chicken shit to do that, but it's on my bucket list too!
5) You get more time to develop chemistry and click and for her to be comfortable and for you to make your moves. It also gives more time to put the Japanese dating technique that Steve 9696 refers to in the SA thread. This can yield substantially better service from the girl as she feels she is with a new BF. I've had a girl who my friend saw previously and said was super dry, but was super wet for me. I've had BBFS from a girl who didn't do BBBJ to a friend on a previous visit. I've had girls who offer anal when she doesn't generally offer it to others, I've had girls who provided above average service in house turning into a tigeress in bed on our outcall pernoite date. You just get more time to get your game on.
The only benefits I see about doing it in-house is if you want the following:
1) Convenience of doing it then and there.
2) Wanting to just do a test drive of a girl before considering seeing her outside.
3) You want the option of going back down to chill with friends or by yourself and get a 2nd girl. Or a 3rd girl later.
4) You want to charge the girl's "donation'present'value" on your credit card, as the boate can do that for you with a 10% markup.
5) You don't like having a girl in your room or sleep in your bed or fuck in the bed you sleep in.
6) You don't want to take the time to "ho-proof" your room.
7) You want to be more discrete, as it can be easier for her to find out your idenity. As some hotels leave welcome gifts with your name or the hotel staff might address you by name, etc. But the reverse can be true as the boate can give up your info. Too. If you make an arrangement for a meeting outside of the club and you take precautions, you get the best of both in terms of discretion.
8) You are staying in a hotel with non-hobbying friends, family or colleagues and don't want them to see you with the girl.
9) You are shy and concerned about the awkwardness of potentially having to register the girl as your "guest". But that's a positive for me, as she knows her identity is recorded so she will be on her best behavior and won't try to drug you and steal your shit. But that's mostly for Colombia, as it's not really a thing in Brazil.
10) You are staying in an Airbnb or hotel that isn't girl friendly, but Sao Paolo hotels are like 99% girl friendly. Can't comment much on Airbnb, but for hotels, you won't have issues as long as your reservation is for 2+ guests and you guys aren't coming back wasted, causing a scene and she is dressed a super skank.
I've personally found the following Sao Paolo hotels to be girl friendly: Fasano (both), Emiliano, Tivoli, Rosewood, Hotel Unique, Renaissance, JW Marriott, Grand Hyatt. My friends have said the following are also girl friendly: Hilton, Sheraton, Pullman, Grand Mecure, Bourbon.
For me, the positives of an outcall outweighs in-house by a mile. But that's based on my hobbying style. You could be like my friend who just want the convenience of quick session then and there. Even then you are paying more than vs. An outcall.
I do find that for extended dates, the price drops a lot. If a girl wants ask for R1,000 for an hour, she would do R1,200-1,500 for 2-4 hours. And R1,500 to R2,000 for overnight or even full 24-hours. And they will even give you additional discount if you do multiple days. Like R3,500 for a full 2 day weekend or R5,000 for 3 days. I've never tried to see a girl for more than 3 days so no experience there.
That is general Brazilian hooker math. The smart ones know that's probably what they will make at most anyway as they aren't going to be pulling clients hour after hour, and they get to have a more relaxing day working. The smart ones also know you are paying for the meals (and maybe taking them to fancy restaurants they normally don't get to experience) and taking them out around town and showing them a good time. One of their "gifts" you are also giving them is the experiences with you being their guide to a world or scene they are not normally accustomed or have access to.
Unless you are taking them to McDonald's and mad fucking them every 2 hours for 2+ hours marathon sessions at a time! Although, there are nymphomaniac girls that might want the latter. I've met a few including one from 3 nights ago in Rio who wanted to stay in and just fuck and fuck and fuck. She was amazing got a 2nd pop out of me within 30 min of the first. When she tried to get a 3rd, I had to fake it after 15 min. And I think she knew as I saw a slight disappointed expression!
Explorer69
03-20-24, 13:48
For me, the positives of an outcall outweighs in-house by a mile. But that's based on my hobbying style. You could be like my friend who just want the convenience of quick session then and there. Even then you are paying more than vs. An outcall.
I do find that for extended dates, the price drops a lot. If a girl wants ask for R1,000 for an hour, she would do R1,200-1,500 for 2-4 hours. And R1,500 to R2,000 for overnight or even full 24-hours. And.
Thank you for a very interesting commentary / report. I agree 100% with you. But we all are different.
Whats up Kazeu. Its about $40 to $55 US each person. They test for all the main STDs. I will spend a month in Jardins, so its worth it since I will be getting with my GFE's. In my longer trips, when I stay I don't have the energy to hit up Scandallo everynight. LOL some nights, I just want to chill with a nice GFE and BBFSCIP with Netflix, done, and take a nap. LOL.
Great information RealShaun. What kind of tests do you usually get and how much does it cost at these clinics?
Your right. Depends how your feeling that night. If I do a viagra, then she is getting the full pipe for at least 4 hours, so an outcall is justified. Or sometimes, I just want to test ride that thang, so an incall would be justified. Either way, its good times.
For me, the positives of an outcall outweighs in-house by a mile. But that's based on my hobbying style. You could be like my friend who just want the convenience of quick session then and there. Even then you are paying more than vs. An outcall.
I do find that for extended dates, the price drops a lot. If a girl wants ask for R1,000 for an hour, she would do R1,200-1,500 for 2-4 hours. And R1,500 to R2,000 for overnight or even full 24-hours. And.
Thank you for a very interesting commentary / report. I agree 100% with you. But we all are different.
Hey gents,
Anyone can rec some good love motels in Moema, Campo Belo or its surrounding areas (near metro stations). I am not looking for anything fancy, just clean and comfortable. Thanks.
Does anyone know how a girl splits fee with the house? Say it cost 200 R an hour, how much the house keeps and how much she takes home?
CCRider1008
03-21-24, 18:25
I do find that for extended dates, the price drops a lot. If a girl wants ask for R1,000 for an hour, she would do R1,200-1,500 for 2-4 hours. And R1,500 to R2,000 for overnight or even full 24-hours. And they will even give you additional discount if you do multiple days. Like R3,500 for a full 2 day weekend or R5,000 for 3 days. I've never tried to see a girl for more than 3 days so no experience there.
That is general Brazilian hooker math. The smart ones know that's probably what they will make at most anyway as they aren't going to be pulling clients hour after hour, and they get to have a more relaxing day working. The smart ones also know you are paying for the meals (and maybe taking them to fancy restaurants they normally don't get to experience) and taking them out around town and showing them a good time. One of their "gifts" you are also giving them is the experiences with you being their guide to a world or scene they are not normally accustomed or have access to.
Unless you are taking them to McDonald's and mad fucking them every 2 hours for 2+ hours marathon sessions at a time! Although, there are nymphomaniac girls that might want the latter. I've met a few including one from 3 nights ago in Rio who wanted to stay in and just fuck and fuck and fuck. She was amazing got a 2nd pop out of me within 30 min of the first. When she tried to get a 3rd, I had to fake it after 15 min. And I think she knew as I saw a slight disappointed expression!I'm with you on hotel versus club. In regard to the pricing model, my goal would be a couple hours, multiple fucks. I assume she is giving you the tiered pricing upfront before you tell her how many hours you want. In Asia I would typically go one hour then ask her to stay and tell her what I'd give for another hour or two after we fucked for the first time (otherwise you just get response of double for two hours etc. If ask upfront). At that point she sees I've complemented and treated her well; and was more than willing to stay at much reduced rate.
Outside the boates, any scam free escort services or boards recommended for SP? Most of the threads here tout SP Love, but the girls look heavily photoshopped. Has anyone used PhotoAccomphantes verified profiles only with any luck in SP? These internet sites aren't my first or even second choices but it's good to have reasonably reliable backup.
UniversalX
03-22-24, 07:56
The only way to avoid the take out / saida fee is if the girl is finished with her shift and meets you after. She can either meet you at your hotel, your Airbnb or a love motel. I had one girl meet me around the corner from Scandallo! She only worked there for 1 week and hated them making extra money that she felt they didn't deserve. And she was a smart cookie, as I ended up giving her more than our agreement, as I saved on Saida fee.SNY,
Thanks for the detailed and very informative reply. I appreciate your knowledge and perspective. I agree with you on outcall, to me it far exceeded in-house experiences. In-house experiences to me always seem rushed.
Avenida Bandeirantes sections near Moema and Campo Belo are pretty much lined with them.
Hey gents,
Anyone can rec some good love motels in Moema, Campo Belo or its surrounding areas (near metro stations). I am not looking for anything fancy, just clean and comfortable. Thanks.
I made it down to SL last week for work. Had several dates lined up from online and others. Every single one of them flaked.
2 said they would be there that week and then last minute was leaving town.
1 disappears for 2 days and said her phone died. Then on Wed begged to see me and last minute says she has a family emergency and bails last minute and then keeps texting me Thursday but you flake twice you are out. Too many fish to deal with that BS.
1 set to meet at 5:30 pm Sunday then flaked saying she is stuck in traffic for 2 hrs.
I went to Yankin to have a pre-meeting warm up.
Saw a tiny gorgeous brunette as soon as I walk in. I love spinners and she fit the bill. Looked 20 or something but someone already went upstairs with her.
Did the line up. Nothing good. Waited around. Another super skinny spinner named Kamila says Hi. She is tatted up like a wannabe gangster. Buck teeth and but-her-face but killer body. Went in for a half. She was submissive and did what was asked. She didn't seem like she enjoys this job, though. Great body, though. She did BBBJ to get started. Not the best technique. Flipped to mish and doggy and popped in the bag. Then rested. Asked about her ink. She did them herself. Some of the art was actually really good. She wants to be a tattoo artist but needs cash. She resumed BBBJ for 10 min until the phone rings. Never got the 2nd pop.
Waited for brunette and she comes to the front desk all packed up and ready to leave. Nobody else really got my attention. Well, shit. Time to leave. Figured I would go grab a bite and head over for my 5:30. At the hotel, 5:30 says she will be 2 hrs. Fuck that. But all the clinicas are now dying down and Casarao don't open until 10. So I called Natty Sininho and she shoots over. She is on IG and X and has a lot of social media shit out there. Pretty hot girl. Are $800.
Shows up and smaller than I thought she would be. Speaks pretty good English so no translate app needed. Nice. Kisses up the elevator. She loves the room. It's the Renaissance. What's not to love? She hops on the bed and we start making out. She pops up and asks to help with her shoes and top. I have her naked. Dive in for DATY. She squirms and moans and was sweet. Work my way up and make out some more. She is chewing gum so DFK tastes really good. LOL. She flips me on my back and starts a BBBJ. Maybe top 5 I have ever had. Good attention to the boys and licking / sucking while stroking with her hand. DT, gagged a few times, had me grab her head and face fuck her. Had my toes curling for a bit. Cover goes on. Start mush on the bed. Knees on my chest. Flip. She hops on CG. Leans in for DFK. Leans back. Spins while I am still inside. RCG. Fast, slow, grind, fast. She comes. I feel the warmth. She keeps going. Leans back. I am in a corner room so nice view. She goes over to the window and I follow. Standing doggie looking out the window. More doggie edge of the bed. Her ass is exactly like her vids. Hard as a rock and hot as hell. I finish in the bag.
She asks what I want next. Really aiming to please. Asks if I want a massage. After 16 hrs of travel fuck yea. She gets lotion and she actually gives a really good massage for such a tiny little lady. I am a pretty muscular guy so it's always hard to give me massages. After a good run she flips and and starts another BBBJ. I don't usually finish with blowjobs and certainly not the 2nd pop. But fuck she did a bit of everything and like I said. Maybe top 5 BJ I have ever had. She got me to pop. We lay there a few minutes and she was out. Says to call her whenever I need some stress relief.
Rest of the week was a miss. Work turned out to be late nights and early mornings and I didn't feel like hitting Scan or Casarao since I had to be up at 6. Was an incredible looking skinny brunette in the lobby on Sunday when I went to let Natty up but kicked myself for not getting her number. Would have overpaid for the convenience but the other girls working the hotel that week in the lobby weren't my type so nothing.
Plan on returning for work in August and probably won't do Sunday but rather stay for the weekend and have fun then.
Obviously the girls shower before the session and I see them cleaning their puta. But I see no brushing teeth or mouth wash. I see lots of dudes DFK in clinica and I can't make myself do that without the thought that someone just had their cock in this mouth bugging the shit out of me. Do the girls ever go clean their mouths out between sessions?
Obviously the girls shower before the session and I see them cleaning their puta. But I see no brushing teeth or mouth wash. I see lots of dudes DFK in clinica and I can't make myself do that without the thought that someone just had their cock in this mouth bugging the shit out of me. Do the girls ever go clean their mouths out between sessions?Didn't read your whole post. I think you went to the cheaper places. The slightly higher price places like the clinicas in Moema have mouth wash. Scandallo men's room has mouth wash and stuff. It really depends on the girls.
Jimmy Boy 99
03-24-24, 16:15
Obviously the girls shower before the session and I see them cleaning their puta. But I see no brushing teeth or mouth wash. I see lots of dudes DFK in clinica and I can't make myself do that without the thought that someone just had their cock in this mouth bugging the shit out of me. Do the girls ever go clean their mouths out between sessions?As Nounce said, most clinicas have mouth wash and I make sure the girl uses it. However, I always bring a small bottle of mouth wash with me, just in case there isn't any in the room, and give some for the girl to use.
Kissing is a big thing in Brazilian hobby culture. The most popular local guide includes a yes / no value for kissing for in every girl's review. In room mouthwash, toothbrushes, and hair combs are, as someone else mentioned, provided in the pricier places. In downmarket places, the girls have their own products. So pucker up and slip those tongues in. I'm a bit of a weirdo about this because my kissing interest is more than satisfied by getting pecks on the cheeks during the lineup presentations. A good solid BJ is all I need to get the session going.
Obviously the girls shower before the session and I see them cleaning their puta. But I see no brushing teeth or mouth wash. I see lots of dudes DFK in clinica and I can't make myself do that without the thought that someone just had their cock in this mouth bugging the shit out of me. Do the girls ever go clean their mouths out between sessions?
How does what work exactly? Will answer, hopefully my assumptions are correct that you are asking how do I get her to agree to BBFS and BBFSCIP = bareback-full-service-cum-in-pussy. Well, besides my great looks and charm LOL just kidding; First I treat her like a lady, like fine wine, then we agree to go to clinic (which I pay) for her to get tested. At the clinic or pharmacy they also provide one-day pills birth control if she is not already on BC. If you want extra caution, you can take PrEM. If all is good, tests are good, then its BBFSCIP. I do this for the ones I think I want to make my GFE's. I normally keep 2 to 3 on BBFS GFE status. Some don't agree, all good, then I just blow their back out with a condom on, then move on to the next stunner. But the one's that agree, love it, because I take them out to dinner, we go shopping, true GFE experience, and they'll BBBJ on the taxi drive to the mall, as an example. Its great when you find a good one.Where do you meet these girls, are they girls from Scandello or Casarao or SA? Most of the pros I met in SP don't agree to BBFS. What success rate do you have with that, 50%?
Hello To All.
Wanted to use Seeking Arrangement prior to a trip for pre-planning but wanted to find out from the experiences of the experts on this board:
Primarily --1. Do I need to sign-up and pay -up for the SA? Or can I use the free version of SA and still get the information needed from the prospects?
2. Any lessons learned from the group that they can share?
Thank you.
CCRider1008
03-27-24, 14:02
Hello To All.
Wanted to use Seeking Arrangement prior to a trip for pre-planning but wanted to find out from the experiences of the experts on this board:
Primarily --1. Do I need to sign-up and pay -up for the SA? Or can I use the free version of SA and still get the information needed from the prospects?
2. Any lessons learned from the group that they can share?
Thank you.SA is a pay site and it's not inexpensive. You may want to set up free account and then scan girls in whatever cities you'll be in. Key is to look at last login date of girls. Problem is SA keeps girls profiles in site that are old, meaning they haven't even used the site in a while. Depending on where you go SA is either useful or useless. I plan trip to Rio and SP in Sept and looked at profiles couple months ago. I saw very few recently active in RIO. Did not check SP. SA used to be great couple years ago. But now many girls on site think you'll pay them for dinner and conversation. They now ask "what are you looking for"? Kidding me? WTF. If I want to have a conversation only I'll talk to my family or one of my buddies, or even a homeless person in Philly. Haha.
DJ I don't keep track on the % but it usually depends on the connection I have with the girl. I then propose that I would like to spend more time with them, GFE, and normally they agree. The one's that don't agree, its OK, it saves me time, and I move onto another.
Where do you meet these girls, are they girls from Scandello or Casarao or SA? Most of the pros I met in SP don't agree to BBFS. What success rate do you have with that, 50%?
Lv. This is a great post. Many times I see newbies all caught up in trying to schedule their day and loose time. But your day, you just kept it moving. I do the same, I will have 5 to 10 on my dial and will schedule all around the same time. Whoever shows up first gets with Big Daddy. And I have let others wait in the lobby for me. One time, even came down from a session, and had two waiting in lobby, we had small bites, I told them I want to do a three some, they were not with it, since they didn't know each other, and I just ended up picking the one that looked best to me at the moment. I say at the moment, because the #2 could of got the big dick too, but since I just finished with a big booty babe, I wanted a slender spinner with a beautiful face, so I went with #1.
I made it down to SL last week for work. Had several dates lined up from online and others. Every single one of them flaked.
2 said they would be there that week and then last minute was leaving town.
1 disappears for 2 days and said her phone died. Then on Wed begged to see me and last minute says she has a family emergency and bails last minute and then keeps texting me Thursday but you flake twice you are out. Too many fish to deal with that BS.
1 set to meet at 5:30 pm Sunday then flaked saying she is stuck in traffic for 2 hrs.
I went to Yankin to have a pre-meeting warm up.
Saw a tiny gorgeous brunette as soon as I walk in. I love spinners and she fit the bill. Looked 20 or something but someone already went upstairs with her.
Did the line up. Nothing good. Waited around. Another super skinny spinner named Kamila says Hi. She is tatted up like a wannabe gangster. Buck teeth and but-her-face but killer body. Went in for a half. She was submissive and did what was asked. She didn't seem like she enjoys this job, though. Great body, though. She did BBBJ to get started. Not the best technique. Flipped to mish and doggy and popped in the bag. Then rested. Asked about her ink. She did them herself. Some of the art was actually really good. She wants to be a tattoo artist but needs cash. She resumed BBBJ for 10 min until the phone rings. Never got the 2nd pop.
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Steve 9696
03-27-24, 17:45
Hello To All.
Wanted to use Seeking Arrangement prior to a trip for pre-planning but wanted to find out from the experiences of the experts on this board:
Primarily --1. Do I need to sign-up and pay -up for the SA? Or can I use the free version of SA and still get the information needed from the prospects?
2. Any lessons learned from the group that they can share?
Thank you.As CC says free to browse. Browse all you like. Girls who are online have a green dot. I don't bother trying to talk to anyone not online. You have to join at $100 ish amonth to contact girls. My advice is try not to treat them like hookers because the best ones are non pro or semi pro. Make a real date of it. It's a TOTALLY different experience from Termas and clinicas and Boates. If you like a real date and real connection then it's great.
I managed to score a 9 in Rio and we hit it off and had a great 3 hr date in rio. Since then I've flown her to SP for a few days. And flying her to Spain soon. So you can def find gems.
I'the suggest if you browse and like what you see then just get an account for the month you are traveling. $100 is a small price ti pay to find a keeper. HMU on message if you have questions or want more tips. I've done a ton of Seeeking dates.
Steve. I never tried SA. It always seemed like its a catfish scheme on there. But your saying its legit, and text the girls, and see what's up. Definitely open to try a new experience from terma girls. I saw some girls on SA that also had a profile on ClubModel. All good. Any other tips about SA?
As CC says free to browse. Browse all you like. Girls who are online have a green dot. I don't bother trying to talk to anyone not online. You have to join at $100 ish amonth to contact girls. My advice is try not to treat them like hookers because the best ones are non pro or semi pro. Make a real date of it. It's a TOTALLY different experience from Termas and clinicas and Boates. If you like a real date and real connection then it's great.
I managed to score a 9 in Rio and we hit it off and had a great 3 hr date in rio. Since then I've flown her to SP for a few days. And flying her to Spain soon. So you can def find gems.
I'the suggest if you browse and like what you see then just get an account for the month you are traveling. $100 is a small price ti pay to find a keeper. HMU on message if you have questions or want more tips. I've done a ton of Seeeking dates.
Steve 9696
03-28-24, 00:44
Steve. I never tried SA. It always seemed like its a catfish scheme on there. But your saying its legit, and text the girls, and see what's up. Definitely open to try a new experience from terma girls. I saw some girls on SA that also had a profile on ClubModel. All good. Any other tips about SA?Yeah Seeking can be a huge amount of work but with a great payoff. I describe as sorting thru a steaming pile of bullshit to find the diamond somewhere therein. But diamonds do exist. I've had amazing complete (ie have sex) Seeking dates in US, London, Spain, Brazil. Almost all have been awesome but a lot of work to find the right girl. The US is pretty much 10 X harder. International Seeking much easier.
I posted a guide earlier this month in the Seeking thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements&p=2900446&posted=1
Two things. In Brazil you needn't be quite so cagey. Brazilian girls are much more open about sex as you know. Even tho I say to find girls s few weeks in advance and test chemistry I have had very excellent short term results. Just like "Hey I'm going out to a nice dinner. Join me". I've scored some real gems last minute this way.
Ps in the US there is a growing epidemic of girls who will engage u quite seriously and then after awesome chat say they have a flat tire or some nonsense and can u send $50. Sooooo fucking annoying. Happens way more often than it used to.
Vagabundo1
03-28-24, 01:41
But don't you have to give your CC?
An anon fellow ISG member cited that as a reason not to use SA.
I myself am considering using SA because in fairness, for the reasons you cite, I have heard from other ISG members that it is good. One ISG bro who comes every year to rio uses it for his best girls along with tier 1 termas.
Yeah Seeking can be a huge amount of work but with a great payoff. I describe as sorting thru a steaming pile of bullshit to find the diamond somewhere therein. But diamonds do exist. I've had amazing complete (ie have sex) Seeking dates in US, London, Spain, Brazil. Almost all have been awesome but a lot of work to find the right girl. The US is pretty much 10 X harder. International Seeking much easier.
I posted a guide earlier this month in the Seeking thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements&p=2900446&posted=1
Two things. In Brazil you needn't be quite so cagey. Brazilian girls are much more open about sex as you know. Even tho I say to find girls s few weeks in advance and test chemistry I have had very excellent short term results. Just like "Hey I'm going out to a nice dinner. Join me". I've scored some real gems last minute this way.
Ps in the US there is a growing epidemic of girls who will engage u quite seriously and then after awesome chat say they have a flat tire or some nonsense and can u send $50. Sooooo fucking annoying. Happens way more often than it used to.
Saw this lady recently. https://www.superacompanhantes.com/acompanhante/683464980/jaqueline-silva . Very tight body, one of the best booties out there. Only downside for me was fake titties.
Anyway, very easy to schedule with, professional and classy. Full GFE performer, including greek for those into such. Charges 700/ h to come to you.
But don't you have to give your CC?
I myself am considering using SA because in fairness, for the reasons you cite, I have heard from other ISG members that it is good. One ISG bro who comes every year to rio uses it for his best girls along with tier 1 termas.CC: I use prepaid to avoid issues.
For you VB, I think you should check out Meu Patrocinio. Way more profiles in Brazil / Rio & cheaper membership.
F.
World Jockey
03-28-24, 18:22
Saw this lady recently. https://www.superacompanhantes.com/acompanhante/683464980/jaqueline-silva . Very tight body, one of the best booties out there. Only downside for me was fake titties.
Anyway, very easy to schedule with, professional and classy. Full GFE performer, including greek for those into such. Charges 700/ h to come to you.First time seeing this site. Quite a few goodies. Anyone else use this?
Saw this lady recently. https://www.superacompanhantes.com/acompanhante/683464980/jaqueline-silva . Very tight body, one of the best booties out there. Only downside for me was fake titties.
Anyway, very easy to schedule with, professional and classy. Full GFE performer, including greek for those into such. Charges 700/ h to come to you.Thanks. Does she speak English?
Alright fellows, I have been perusing through a lot of discussions, sites, etc. For the past several months and as I get closer to my trip I am asking for your input as I complete my stops, specifically with clinicas.
Below is my line up that I think will be within close proximity to Moema. They are not in particular order but need your assistance to fill in question marks?
Please correct also if I am greatly mistaken on the information I have.
1. Lotus Lounge.
Type: Ipad system.
Area: Jardins.
Approximate Price: 700-800 reales.
Does it have a bar: Yes.
2. Abobora.
Type: Actual line-up.
Area: Concelao.
Approximate Price: 400 reales.
Does it have a bar: Yes.
Website: ?
3. Palms.
Type: Ipad system.
Area: Brooklin.
Approximate Price: 800-900 reales.
Does it have a bar: No.
4. Sharon Premium.
Type: Ipad system.
Area: Moema.
Approximate Price: 650 reales.
Does it have a bar: Yes.
5. Prime.
Type: Ipad system.
Area: Brooklin.
Approximate Price: 600 reales.
Does it have a bar: No.
Website: ?
6. Miruna.
Type: Line up.
Area: Villa Mariana.
Approximate Price: 600 reales.
Does it have a bar: No.
Website: ?
7. Baronesas.
Type: Ipad system.
Area: Congonhas.
Approximate Price: 700-800 reales.
Does it have a bar: Yes.
8. Yankin.
Type: Line up.
Area: Near Moema.
Approximate Price: 400 reales.
Does it have a bar: No.
Website: ?
9. Tangara.
Type: Line up.
Area: Ibirapuera Park area.
Approximate Price: 450 reales.
Does it have a bar: No.
Website: ?
10. Oro.
Type: Ipad system.
Area: ?
Approximate Price: ? Reales.
Does it have a bar: ?
Website: ?
11. Taj Mahal.
Type: Line up.
Area: Villa Mariana.
Approximate Price: 600 reales.
Does it have a bar: No.
Website: ?
Steve, nice link on the post. I read through it, gave me good insights. I will give SA a try next time I am in SP in a couple of weeks. Your right though, maybe my US experience with SA has tarnished what I think SA is. In the US there is waaaayyy to much of what you said, I'm not sending any girls money for flat tires whom I never met LOL Also, in SP I like to get to the point like a cave man, "Me, here, now, you, me, now" LOL so I'm a switch it up a bit, and try SA. Who knows, I may end up loving it. LOL. Especially because I love BBFSCIP.
Yeah Seeking can be a huge amount of work but with a great payoff. I describe as sorting thru a steaming pile of bullshit to find the diamond somewhere therein. But diamonds do exist. I've had amazing complete (ie have sex) Seeking dates in US, London, Spain, Brazil. Almost all have been awesome but a lot of work to find the right girl. The US is pretty much 10 X harder. International Seeking much easier.
I posted a guide earlier this month in the Seeking thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements&p=2900446&posted=1
Two things. In Brazil you needn't be quite so cagey. Brazilian girls are much more open about sex as you know. Even tho I say to find girls s few weeks in advance and test chemistry I have had very excellent short term results. Just like "Hey I'm going out to a nice dinner. Join me". I've scored some real gems last minute this way.
Ps in the US there is a growing epidemic of girls who will engage u quite seriously and then after awesome chat say they have a flat tire or some nonsense and can u send $50. Sooooo fucking annoying. Happens way more often than it used to.
Alright fellows, ...It's good that you did research, but you did a pretty lousy job or you messed up with copy and past. Some corrections below.
Prime, Miruna both have lineup and are in Moema. The cost is less than half of you posted. I haven't been there for a while so I don't have the latest price.
Yankin and Tangara both are in Villa Mariana. It's around 190/150. Both have bar.
These information are not the most critical because you can find out easily once you arrive.
The lineup at Yankin and Tangara are less organized. They are more like between a clinica and boate. You need to stick around for a while to learn or wait to have more choices. It's the process and the detail that is more valuable. Same for the high end clinica but because we all have paid a hefty price to learn so we are not sharing.. LOL.
You can use the local website gpguia to find more information
I strongly advice to walk away at a high-end clinica if you can't talk to the girl at all. It's a pure gamble because what's on the tablet may not be honest so the odds is against you. Go to a boate even if you have to pay more because at least you are more likely to get what you pay for.
... Also, in SP I like to get to the point like a cave man, "Me, here, now, you, me, now" LOL so I'm a switch it up a bit, and try SA. Who knows, I may end up loving it. LOL. Especially because I love BBFSCIP.Direct to a point can be good. It helps you figure out who are the pros which is not a bad thing. Otherwise, you will find out at the last minute after hours of chatting. Some pros will ask for photos because they want to pretend to be non-pros so you will waste your time to chat with them, it the reaction to the photos that can help you decide who is on the other side. If the girl has an honest reaction, then she most likely is not a pro.
CCRider1008
03-29-24, 15:19
It's good that you did research, but you did a pretty lousy job or you messed up with copy and past. Some corrections below.
Prime, Miruna both have lineup and are in Moema. The cost is less than half of you posted. I haven't been there for a while so I don't have the latest price.
Yankin and Tangara both are in Villa Mariana. It's around 190/150. Both have bar.
These information are not the most critical because you can find out easily once you arrive.
The lineup at Yankin and Tangara are less organized. They are more like between a clinica and boate. You need to stick around for a while to learn or wait to have more choices. It's the process and the detail that is more valuable. Same for the high end clinica but because we all have paid a hefty price to learn so we are not sharing.. LOL.
You can use the local website gpguia to find more information
I strongly advice to walk away at a high-end clinica if you can't talk to the girl at all. It's a pure gamble because what's on the tablet may not be honest so the odds is against you. Go to a boate even if you have to pay more because at least you are more likely to get what you pay for.Good original post for info and good follow up post for clarification. Thank to both.
Hi folks, I'm talking to a lovely paulista on SA and it seems she's on a trip.
Can someone tell me where was this pic taken?
Hi folks, I'm talking to a lovely paulista on SA and it seems she's on a trip.
Can someone tell me where was this pic taken?She's fucking around in Oslo, Norway.
Great, thanks! Yes I was thinking she's somewhere in scandinavia.
She's a talented dancer, so I suppose she's hanging her ass in some of those shiny pole dance tubes.
Is the club scene interesting there ?
She's fucking around in Oslo, Norway.
JohnJones22
03-30-24, 23:04
What is the "deadline" time you must arrive by to only pay the entry fee which is fully consumable? I forget if its 6 or 7 pm.
What is the "deadline" time you must arrive by to only pay the entry fee which is fully consumable? I forget if its 6 or 7 pm.7, or a little pass 7 is ok. Check with them to decide if you are a little late.
CCRider1008
04-01-24, 21:15
I'm noticing extraordinary amount of the girls on sites I'm checking out have tattoos in Rio and SP. Way more than other places I'm accustomed to in Asia and Europe.
I'm not opposed to some tatts (I have a couple) or an occasional heavy tatted girl, but will get old if every girl looks like an inner city gang member.
Is it just the escort hooker sites? Are the boates and termas girls all tatted out?
Thanks. Does she speak English?Unfortunately not.
I'm noticing extraordinary amount of the girls on sites I'm checking out have tattoos in Rio and SP. Way more than other places I'm accustomed to in Asia and Europe.
I'm not opposed to some tatts (I have a couple) or an occasional heavy tatted girl, but will get old if every girl looks like an inner city gang member.
Is it just the escort hooker sites? Are the boates and termas girls all tatted out?Tattoos are nothing in Brazil compared to Thailand. In Thailand even charwomen and housewives are covered in tattoos.
Could someone share the ATM withdrawal limits for Santander and Braddesco? Thanks gents.
Steve 9696
04-02-24, 12:34
I'm noticing extraordinary amount of the girls on sites I'm checking out have tattoos in Rio and SP. Way more than other places I'm accustomed to in Asia and Europe.
I'm not opposed to some tatts (I have a couple) or an occasional heavy tatted girl, but will get old if every girl looks like an inner city gang member.
Is it just the escort hooker sites? Are the boates and termas girls all tatted out?I don't have any experience with civvy girls but can def say virtually all club girls have tattoos. There is a rare exception here and there but let's say 90+%. That said it's not like they all have backplates or sleeves. Just pretty much every girl has tattoos. I've come to find it a rather nice decoration and it can be attractive. I don't think you will find urself put off by it.
Tattoos are a thing in Colombia too.
I'm noticing extraordinary amount of the girls on sites I'm checking out have tattoos in Rio and SP. Way more than other places I'm accustomed to in Asia and Europe.
I'm not opposed to some tatts (I have a couple) or an occasional heavy tatted girl, but will get old if every girl looks like an inner city gang member.
Is it just the escort hooker sites? Are the boates and termas girls all tatted out?
Could someone share the ATM withdrawal limits for Santander and Braddesco? Thanks gents.I'm still doing recon before my trip to SP. I am almost caught up with RTFF and here is what I know about your question.
You can withdraw 2500 from most Bradesco ATM's. Santander max withdrawal is 3000. If I am wrong, one of the vets on here can chime in. I do recall something about limits on Sundays but not sure on that.
I have created notes on places to stay, eat, prices of clinicas, boates, etc. It's all here if one is willing to go back and read.
FilthyBeaver
04-02-24, 21:43
Uh, no. Never met a single girl from the north west with a tattoo you're assuming Issan is Thailand and that's a very narrow minded assumption.
Tattoos are nothing in Brazil compared to Thailand. In Thailand even charwomen and housewives are covered in tattoos.
Long time ago I don't withdraw cash at night (very bad idea in some areas), but I'm sure there was a night time lower limit in order to avoid common crime.
You should check those limits, but this is what I found.
I'm still doing recon before my trip to SP. I am almost caught up with RTFF and here is what I know about your question.
You can withdraw 2500 from most Bradesco ATM's. Santander max withdrawal is 3000. If I am wrong, one of the vets on here can chime in. I do recall something about limits on Sundays but not sure on that.
I have created notes on places to stay, eat, prices of clinicas, boates, etc. It's all here if one is willing to go back and read.
World Jockey
04-02-24, 23:43
I'm noticing extraordinary amount of the girls on sites I'm checking out have tattoos in Rio and SP. Way more than other places I'm accustomed to in Asia and Europe.
I'm not opposed to some tatts (I have a couple) or an occasional heavy tatted girl, but will get old if every girl looks like an inner city gang member.
Is it just the escort hooker sites? Are the boates and termas girls all tatted out?I think BKK and Pattaya hold that honor.
They are all inked up and its deeply cultural.
BlackLexus
04-03-24, 07:05
I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and near closing time and she charged me 500 are.
BlackLexus
04-03-24, 07:23
I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and it was near closing time and she charged me 500 R.
Thats true. Many years ago they implemented curfew hours as well due to the high crime rate at the ATM locations. Especially, with drunk tourists who have no idea. It was an epidemic of crimes in SP and Rio. I normally, or even never, go to ATMs. I hedge my cost, by buying currency when the conversion rates hit certain levels. I get alerts, then I buy currency at that time. So when its time to travel, I'm not at the mercy of the currency exchange if it happens to be at a lower spot market. I place everything on credit card, and use the cash on hand, accordingly, as ya'll know. .
Long time ago I don't withdraw cash at night (very bad idea in some areas), but I'm sure there was a night time lower limit in order to avoid common crime.
You should check those limits, but this is what I found.
Funny you mention that, because I was wondering the same thing last year and even the year before. I was thinking, either I am getting old? Or is this Tattoo thing becoming a new fad? I'm talking full on tats on some of the hottest chicks. I normally do not like tats, but if she is a 9, and the tats suite her well, not too many, then Its ALL GOOD. I'm BBFSCIP all day!! LOL.
I think BKK and Pattaya hold that honor.
They are all inked up and its deeply cultural.
She has a nice rack. Slender, nice booty. My man sung his own Bday song that night LOL.
I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and it was near closing time and she charged me 500 R.
There are no limits. The limit is placed by your bank, and your banking relationship. Some people have accounts that can't withdraw more than $300 US others can do a lot more. If you do, have to use an ATM, please by God, do it only in the day, before 5 pm, inside the bank. Good luck.
I'm still doing recon before my trip to SP. I am almost caught up with RTFF and here is what I know about your question.
You can withdraw 2500 from most Bradesco ATM's. Santander max withdrawal is 3000. If I am wrong, one of the vets on here can chime in. I do recall something about limits on Sundays but not sure on that.
I have created notes on places to stay, eat, prices of clinicas, boates, etc. It's all here if one is willing to go back and read.
CCRider1008
04-04-24, 18:35
I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and it was near closing time and she charged me 500 R.Wow. I'd welcome the ink if it was attached to her. Hats off to you sir.
I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and it was near closing time and she charged me 500 R.I hope you gave her a good seeing to.
World Jockey
04-05-24, 03:19
I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and near closing time and she charged me 500 are.Those are some nice receipts ya got there. Perfect ass.
I normally do not like tats, but if she is a 9, and the tats suite her well, not too many, then Its ALL GOOD. I'm BBFSCIP all day!! LOL.You know what they say. When in Rome LOL.
Which one currently has the best line-up? I've been hitting Tangara which is a hit or miss. I rec you check it out in the afternoon, but it's busy and not really my liking.
The Critic
04-06-24, 05:31
There are no limits. The limit is placed by your bank, and your banking relationship. Some people have accounts that can't withdraw more than $300 US others can do a lot more. If you do, have to use an ATM, please by God, do it only in the day, before 5 pm, inside the bank. Good luck. You should know the Daily Withdrawal Limit Policy of your Bank/Debit ATM Card Issuer.
The real issue is that some banks in Brazil have a withdrawal limit that is less than your Bank/Debit ATM Card Issuer. These banks may limit your withdrawals due to Holidays, Special Events, Weekends, location, time of day (mainly after 5 PM and especially late night), physical location inside bank ATM (Best) vs outside ATM (Worst, which are more prone to have ATM card readers for scammers to capture your account information in addition outside ATM machines are more prone to ATM users being subjected to criminal activity.) Also not to mention a financial crisis affecting bank limits.
So yes, the best time to go to an ATM is before 5PM preferably inside a bank that has a guard / bank employees watching the ATM. Central business district, or highly trafficked commercial areas generally have the banks that provide reasonable ATM withdrawal limit/policies.
The Critic
04-06-24, 05:50
I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and it was near closing time and she charged me 500 R.Nice, especially at $R500 which is hard to get most want +$R1000, no matter what time it is in Scandallo, Happy Birthday!!
I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and it was near closing time and she charged me 500 R.I think I am going to say it's my birthday for every woman I meet who I don't already know. It's universal the women go into overdrive.
LivingFossil
04-08-24, 04:31
Hey Perverts,
I am seeking your wisdom.
I am goin to be in Buenos Aires for a week soon and thought I would monger there using SA and thought it would be cheap but it seems like its $250+ per session sheesh.
I am looking at SP since its kinda close and I RTFF and its seems be just a little cheaper but not by much.
I have a lot of experience mongering in Colombia Peru and Mexico where I have amazing sessions bringing 1 or 2 SA girls per day to my airbnb for about $100-$150 each for many many days.
I am a high volume guy so that's why I seek lower prices LOL.
If I am in SP and want to fuck girls back at my place is there there any way I can get away with under $150 per girl using SA or getting contacts other ways?
I don't need models I just need 7+ height weight proportionate girls who are between 18-23.
If SP doesn't fit the bill maybe I should stick to the places I know but since I am down in BA I thought I would explore something in the area thanks!
What do you'll think?
Steve 9696
04-08-24, 14:48
Hey Perverts,
I am seeking your wisdom.
I am goin to be in Buenos Aires for a week soon and thought I would monger there using SA and thought it would be cheap but it seems like its $250+ per session sheesh.
I am looking at SP since its kinda close and I RTFF and its seems be just a little cheaper but not by much.
I have a lot of experience mongering in Colombia Peru and Mexico where I have amazing sessions bringing 1 or 2 SA girls per day to my airbnb for about $100-$150 each for many many days.
I am a high volume guy so that's why I seek lower prices LOL.
If I am in SP and want to fuck girls back at my place is there there any way I can get away with under $150 per girl using SA or getting contacts other ways?
I don't need models I just need 7+ height weight proportionate girls who are between 18-23.
If SP doesn't fit the bill maybe I should stick to the places I know but since I am down in BA I thought I would explore something in the area thanks!
What do you'll think?We talk a lot on here about high end venues like Scandallo because if you have the coin it's top worldwide. But you can def get quality girls in the price range you seek. I think easiest would be to do a session at a Clinica and get the girls number to do more at your hotel. Within your budget but prob at lower end clinicas (Tangara?) is ur best bet. They aren’t always lower end for girls but facilities which won’t matter after one session.
... Within your budget but prob at lower end clinicas (Tangara?) is ur best bet. ...It depends on his taste. Just based on his experience, I think if he could pick one there, Tangara is a high volume place, this girl will not be in the optimal condition at the end of the shift. I am not sure he could get all of them under 150 in SP, as his selections become smaller, the price will go higher if he does not have much time.
I am not surprised at this price now. This is not in SP or Rio
It depends on his taste. Just based on his experience, I think if he could pick one there, Tangara is a high volume place, this girl will be tired at the end of the shift. I am not sure he could get all of them under 150 in SP, as his selections become smaller, the price will go higher if he does not have much time.
I am not surprised at this price now. This is not in SP or RioWhat selections are you talking about? Prices at clinicas are usually fixed. Also, I believe the original poster is saying $150 usd, I'm pretty sure there are plenty of girls he could get to come to his place for $150 usd in SP. Maybe not the scandallo girls, but girls from clinicas, sure.
Nice, especially at $R500 which is hard to get most want +$R1000, no matter what time it is in Scandallo...!I just want to add that I think only some portion of the girls can get higher price. These are most likely the ones that don't come everyday. It also depends on the look of the girls. I did a price survey that I reported after the upward price explosion. They came up to me when I was having dinner which gave me a free pass to quickly check the price. There were still at least some that you can get at 500 or below because not all of them are desirable and some of them worked there everyday will look for higher volume. You have never heard of anyone here negotiated it down to below 500. Why?
I met a girl who works as part time model who speaks more than three languages and fluent in 3 in SP this year. She has a regular job that pays her 2500 a month. It is a terrible job based on what I was told. Other girls I met in the south in cities like Florianpolis and Balnerio Cambori. They made between 1700 and 5000. The numbers of the higher income one is inflated IMO but it is still not much and her basic expenses are much higher too.
One reason I am posting this, is I think the information on ISG makes people get used to the higher price. It is something to think about. It does not impact me because I have not been to Scandallo for over a year if I remember correctly.
What selections are you talking about? Prices at clinicas are usually fixed. Also, I believe the original poster is saying $150 usd, I'm pretty sure there are plenty of girls he could get to come to his place for $150 usd in SP. Maybe not the scandallo girls, but girls from clinicas, sure.
I think you have not taken into consideration of the poster's preference. This is someone who likes SA and outcall. I doubt he would enjoy Tangara . The other point is the (hot if you find one) girl will be tired like I wrote. I frequently wrote about Tangara so I would say I have less negative bias then others who don't visit Tangara. If I am going to assume, I would assume he could find what he likes more likely from the high- end clinicas. Having said the above, he should still try and that is what I would do. I am jsut saying not to base decision on Tangara or clinicas. One has to figure out if he likes the type of girls there.
If you are someone who look at the high-end clinicas as the same as the cheaper ones, then I consider you are one of the fortunate ones because you pay much less to get the same result that others have to pay more to get.
I often said high-end clinicas is a gamble, let's say the failure rate is 1/3. Then the cost of a successful one after 3 sessions would be about 200USD on site. There maybe a beginner's luck. I had some good ones in the beginning, than a series of bad ones. Just to add to the context, I must have BBBJ. LOL. If it's ok to have CBJ, then you should ignore my post.
Also, don't automatically assume their rate based on what you pay in Clinicas. It depends on the girls. Example, if the girl goes to Scandallo to work at night, then she may ask for the night rate which will be much higher than the clinica rate, and they may give you a price by hour which would make the total cost even higher
LivingFossil
04-10-24, 01:16
Yes when I said $150 USD I was talking about an SA type of girl. I am not looking for a casa type girl who has high volume.
I am thinking SP might be too expensive for me. Of course I would go to Scandalo and session once but I am trying to get 10 sessions in a week at my Airbnb.
The girls I like are 130 lbs max, no plastic, 18-23, feminine some friends say they I like 7's and 8's, I am okay with that label LOL.
Alright fellows, I have been perusing through a lot of discussions, sites, etc. For the past several months and as I get closer to my trip I am asking
11. Taj Mahal.
Type: Line up.
Area: Villa Mariana.
Approximate Price: 600 reales.
Does it have a bar: No.
Website: ?I don't believe Taj Mahal has a line up. Last time I was there a few years back, they had an iPad system. The rate was 400 BRL. I guess things have changed.
For those who have got the e-visa, what is it like? Just a PDF file with validity for 10 years?
Axel Heyst
04-10-24, 13:57
I visited Taj Mahal on December 30th in the early afternoon right before New Years eve. Some clinicas were closed on account of the holidays and the night before I had paid a visit to Bomboa and it was almost dead. I have never seen Bomboa so empty before.
Anyway on the 30th, I whatsapped Taj first to make sure they were open and they immediately sent me photos of their available girls from which I chose an attractive, slender, and tall brunette with small breasts and I made a 1:30 pm appointment. I arrived on time at 1:25 pm and I had to wait about 5 minutes before the friendly hostess escorted me up to one of their pleasant. Well decorated rooms. Then I waited another 5 minutes or so for the girl. She looked a little different than her glossed up photos, which is to be expected, but it was the same girl, and she still looked pretty good to me. The session included a 10-minute back massage, then a HJ / ball massage from behind, and when I rolled over onto my back, she commenced to give me a good BBBJ, limited DFK (the only negative), and we engaged in covered vaginal sex in multiple positions. I must say, I enjoyed shagging this one. In missionary, our 1st position, she pretended to be a damsel in distress and once I caught on to her play act I had a very good time with her. The all inclusive price was 640 BR on the CC. WIR? Yes, but I told her next time, I wanted more kissing and she agreed.
Earlier in my trip, in mid November, I just walked into the establishment cold turkey. There was no line up, just the usual laptop photos of available girls. This is the same procedure in all the upscale SP clinicas like Sharon and Palms. I did not see any girl photos that I liked at that time, so I told the hostess I would come back later and I left. Back on the street I ordered an Uber and I took a ride over to Sharon where I found what I was looking for.
I don't believe Taj Mahal has a line up. Last time I was there a few years back, they had an iPad system. The rate was 400 BRL. I guess things have changed.
Axel Heyst
04-10-24, 14:32
Yes when I said $150 USD I was talking about an SA type of girl. I am not looking for a casa type girl who has high volume.
I am thinking SP might be too expensive for me. Of course I would go to Scandalo and session once but I am trying to get 10 sessions in a week at my Airbnb.
The girls I like are 130 lbs max, no plastic, 18-23, feminine some friends say they I like 7's and 8's, I am okay with that label LOL.I think 750 BR for SP girls of your description is doable although it will require some flexibility on your part.
Your best bet is to take a look at MClass & Club Model escort sites. If that does not work for you, you will have to check out the boates.
Unfortunately, the top 2 boates (Scandallo & Bomboa) will cost you more that 750 BR when you add in club entry fees, drinks, and either a room charge or a take out charge. Figure the total minimum cost will be around 1400 BR, but if you click with the girl, subsequent get togethers with her at your hotel will be roughly half that amount for ST.
Casarao is your other boate alternative. You can easily pay less than 740 BR total here and there are typically so many Casarao girls in attendance after midnight, that I am sure you can find a few that can match your target.
Bon appetite. I look forward to reading your report.
For those who have got the e-visa, what is it like? Just a PDF file with validity for 10 years?Yes. And you have to print out two copies every time you enter Brazil. You have to keep it safe in your email box. They have again pushed the date back till April 10,2025.
https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-miami/information-about-visas-in-english/electronic-visitor-visa-e-visa
It's almost as if Brazil is waiting for these countries to work out a reciprocal exemption.
Yes. And you have to print out two copies every time you enter Brazil. You have to keep it safe in your email box. They have again pushed the date back till April 10,2025.
https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-miami/information-about-visas-in-english/electronic-visitor-visa-e-visa
It's almost as if Brazil is waiting for these countries to work out a reciprocal exemption.It's similar to my check-in experience. I went 3 hours earlier to check-in. I waited for a long time that it was almost too late because the airline employee kept directing people who was late to skip the line. By the time I was the second in line, the progress basically come to a halt. The women in front of me could not take it anymore and she started to scream at the airline employee. It was about half hour before the departure time by the time I got to the gate. No surprisingly the flight had been delayed indefinitely so the people who came after me can catch the flight. That's what I think anyway. LOL.
Is there a current English speaking girl working out of one of the clinicas? Yon can PM me if you don't want to share in public. I am still looking for one.
Is there a current English speaking girl working out of one of the clinicas? Yon can PM me if you don't want to share in public. I am still looking for one.You can go ask the receptionist / manager.
I've seen one or two of them in Abbobora talking to American guys. You can whatsapp message the clinicas and ask this information. They will have the most up to date information. It might be easier to just learn a few key Portuguese phrases like "can I fuck you up the ass?
Is there a current English speaking girl working out of one of the clinicas? Yon can PM me if you don't want to share in public. I am still looking for one.
Yes when I said $150 USD I was talking about an SA type of girl. I am not looking for a casa type girl who has high volume.
I am thinking SP might be too expensive for me. Of course I would go to Scandalo and session once but I am trying to get 10 sessions in a week at my Airbnb.
The girls I like are 130 lbs max, no plastic, 18-23, feminine some friends say they I like 7's and 8's, I am okay with that label LOL.I found most SA girls to quote 1000 R to 1500 R an hour, but will come down to 700-800 R for 2 hours.
Seeking Arrangment girls aren't high volume? Probably I don't know what high volume really means. The clinicas pump whatsapp subscribers with promos and photos to bring in customers. Garotas regularly complain about lack of customers. I think the Vila Mariana places like Zeus, Tangara, and Yankin are among the busiest but even there the action is light on weekdays before 5. How does it work with the Seeking Arrangement girls? Do they have one date per day and stop until the money runs out?
I found most SA girls to quote 1000 R to 1500 R an hour, but will come down to 700-800 R for 2 hours.
Steve 9696
04-16-24, 14:59
Seeking Arrangment girls aren't high volume? Probably I don't know what high volume really means. The clinicas pump whatsapp subscribers with promos and photos to bring in customers. Garotas regularly complain about lack of customers. I think the Vila Mariana places like Zeus, Tangara, and Yankin are among the busiest but even there the action is light on weekdays before 5. How does it work with the Seeking Arrangement girls? Do they have one date per day and stop until the money runs out?There are plenty of Seeking girls who are high volume pros. But what you look for on Seeking is the Gem. She's a girl with a real job or student. And just does Seeking on the side to score some extra cash. They are often cheaper than than the pros and waaay more girlfriendy and affectionate. These girls will be low volume.
Case in point. My Rio seeking hottie. She works in a clothing store and is having to buy some vacay from a coworker to fly to Europe w me. And she charges me next to nothing. It's the true Seeking deal where she wants to be with you and you want to help her out. She is charging waaaaay under market if she was a pro. Like I was doing 500 R a DAY last time we met up.
And a recent girl in a large US city. Girls are charging 500 in US and pros shooting even higher. Found a gem (after a dud and a meh) who is 300. She works a real job second shift at a warehouse. And she's fucking amazing. Just s real girl looking for some fun. Those are the ones you want.
DoomBringer321
04-18-24, 05:03
Has anyone been here and if so how was the experience?
https://spalushness.com/
Doom, I like the Moema spot better. The rooms, more girls, and its also close to other spots in the event they don't have any available that you like then you can go to other Moema spots. The other spot in A. Franco is bit more isolated, so kinda forces your hand to pick one. In A. Franco location, I was force to get an 8, so whom am I to complain LOL.
Has anyone been here and if so how was the experience?
https://spalushness.com/
They don't have time to speak english when their mouth is full of BBBJ. I'm there to put in some work, not too much talking. LOL.
I've seen one or two of them in Abbobora talking to American guys. You can whatsapp message the clinicas and ask this information. They will have the most up to date information. It might be easier to just learn a few key Portuguese phrases like "can I fuck you up the ass?
Met a so called "Dentist" from SA last week. We went out. It started out pretty good, I invited her to Franco de Chao in Jardins. But then I went into my monger cave man old habits. She said she didn't get down like that. I was simply only asking to go back to my hotel and BBFSCIP not such a big request, right? At least she was cool with my crude ways. She had a cool vibe. But she said, we needed to get to know each other a bit more. So we been texting and stuff. She actually invited me to her dental location WTF!? LOL So I am going to keep working on it. LOL So far SA in SP has been much better than the typical catfishing in the US. My 2 cents.
Seeking Arrangment girls aren't high volume? Probably I don't know what high volume really means. The clinicas pump whatsapp subscribers with promos and photos to bring in customers. Garotas regularly complain about lack of customers. I think the Vila Mariana places like Zeus, Tangara, and Yankin are among the busiest but even there the action is light on weekdays before 5. How does it work with the Seeking Arrangement girls? Do they have one date per day and stop until the money runs out?
Met a so called "Dentist" from SA last week. We went out. It started out pretty good, I invited her to Franco de Chao in Jardins. But then I went into my monger cave man old habits. She said she didn't get down like that. I was simply only asking to go back to my hotel and BBFSCIP not such a big request, right? At least she was cool with my crude ways. She had a cool vibe. But she said, we needed to get to know each other a bit more. So we been texting and stuff. She actually invited me to her dental location WTF!? LOL So I am going to keep working on it. LOL So far SA in SP has been much better than the typical catfishing in the US. My 2 cents.Maybe she's hoping you will keep spending money on her by getting some dental work done LOL!
CCRider1008
04-19-24, 14:26
I was simply only asking to go back to my hotel and BBFSCIP not such a big request, right?.From my perspective not an unreasonable request. As a soon first time visitor to Brazil, tell me how the pitch of BBFS has been going; more interested in reaction of working girls not dentists. I've had great success in Asia and Germany, but a little unsure how sem camisinha pitch will play in SP and RD.
Met a so called "Dentist" from SA last week. We went out. It started out pretty good, I invited her to Franco de Chao in Jardins. But then I went into my monger cave man old habits. She said she didn't get down like that. I was simply only asking to go back to my hotel and BBFSCIP not such a big request, right? At least she was cool with my crude ways. She had a cool vibe. But she said, we needed to get to know each other a bit more. So we been texting and stuff. She actually invited me to her dental location WTF!? LOL So I am going to keep working on it. LOL So far SA in SP has been much better than the typical catfishing in the US. My 2 cents."we needed to get to know each other a BIT MORE". You did not successfully read the coded message. A bit more......Reals! Remember Cindy Lauper's song - "Girls Just Wanna Have Funds".
Are $600 according to gp guide. Is it worth it?
Doom, I like the Moema spot better. The rooms, more girls, and its also close to other spots in the event they don't have any available that you like then you can go to other Moema spots. The other spot in A. Franco is bit more isolated, so kinda forces your hand to pick one. In A. Franco location, I was force to get an 8, so whom am I to complain LOL.
BenTiger07
04-22-24, 16:42
In Scandallo,
I know the consumable entry fee is 300-500.
How much is the room?
How much is the minimum & usual a girl will accept for 40 min-HR for a room there?
I heard a few prices but I get confused on if people are quoting prices with all these different costs together or separately. Thank you.
Steve 9696
04-22-24, 18:38
In Scandallo,
I know the consumable entry fee is 300-500.
How much is the room?
How much is the minimum & usual a girl will accept for 40 min-HR for a room there?
I heard a few prices but I get confused on if people are quoting prices with all these different costs together or separately. Thank you.Rm is 300 R. For an hour. They will charge you per minute if you go over. Top tier girls will ask 1500 but take 1000 or 1200. You can no doubt get lower depending on looks and time of night. That is for prime time and a top girl. (Including gringo tax. Hahaha).
Ah! You may be right. We going on another date in two weeks when I get back to SP. We've been flirting heavy on text messages. I think she will be ready for BBFSCIP. She telling me how much it cost to run her dentist business and stuff. Ah Huh Ah Huh right right, I'm listening LOL.
"we needed to get to know each other a BIT MORE". You did not successfully read the coded message. A bit more......Reals! Remember Cindy Lauper's song - "Girls Just Wanna Have Funds".
I don't know, Knlwdg. If she gives BBBJ + anal + swallow I suppose. Everyone is different. But if you enjoyed it, and she becomes one of your top stunners, then I would say it was worth it.
Are $600 according to gp guide. Is it worth it?
I have alerts on my xe.com account and BRL hit 5. 19 exchange to 1 US. Exchange was 0. 19 and when I check WellsFargo to buy currency its at 0. 21 WTF! WellsFargo is really pissing me off. I'm thinking of changing banks. They are taking like 20%-25% fee. It used to be only about 8% to 12%.
Anyone else getting better rates from other banks?
I have alerts on my xe.com account and BRL hit 5. 19 exchange to 1 US. Exchange was 0. 19 and when I check WellsFargo to buy currency its at 0. 21 WTF! WellsFargo is really pissing me off. I'm thinking of changing banks. They are taking like 20%-25% fee. It used to be only about 8% to 12%.
Anyone else getting better rates from other banks?I use Banco24 horas ATMs in SP and decline "their conversion rate". You usually get the market rate+a point; Best deal I have found so far there.
Triple threat would be a baseline requirement for me. As always, where it sits in the market is also part of the equation.
I don't know, Knlwdg. If she gives BBBJ + anal + swallow I suppose. Everyone is different. But if you enjoyed it, and she becomes one of your top stunners, then I would say it was worth it.
Wayne Roberts
04-26-24, 04:51
From my perspective not an unreasonable request. As a soon first time visitor to Brazil, tell me how the pitch of BBFS has been going; more interested in reaction of working girls not dentists. I've had great success in Asia and Germany, but a little unsure how sem camisinha pitch will play in SP and RD.There is no pitching for it, most are not going to do it. If they are then you are taking huge risks with your health because they are doing it with a ton of people.
If you want BBFS you need to built rapport with these girls. Get to know them, drink with them, etc. Then when you are in the room you don't talk about it, you just fuck them after foreplay. If they ask you to put a condom on then you put one on, but in many cases they just go with the flow too.
GiuseppeBonera
04-27-24, 13:18
Last night checked out Gauguin for the first time. I heard about it from one of my contacts and checked it out she said a lot of girls from Scandallo and cafe are switching to this club. First impression on a Friday night similar vibe to Scandallo not as big. There are two options 290 with 100 consumable or 500 all consumable so both better options than Scandallo. There are two floors first floor club scene with dJ / band second floor open area with a stage but no band at the time I was there. VIP areas looked very nice. I met a chill girl spinner type 26 years old quoted 2000 for per noite so a little better than the 3000 many Scandalo girls quote initially (I never pay that much). She explained the VIP areas all have couches in the doors behind and cost just over 1000 depending on which VIP area (some are bigger) not for me but some you ballers out there might want to try this. Overall, not as many girls or as big as Scandallo but is a good lower cost alternative to it. I would prefer here over Bahamas or cafe foto and even Scandallo on a given night.
Seventyonefun
04-27-24, 17:30
Does anyone know if Boates will be open May 1st or is it safe to assume they will be closed due to the public holiday?
Seventyonefun
04-27-24, 18:19
Does anyone know if the Boates will be open May 1st, or is it safe to assume they will be closed for the public holiday?
Last night checked out Gauguin for the first time. I heard about it from one of my contacts and checked it out she said a lot of girls from Scandallo and cafe are switching to this club. First impression on a Friday night similar vibe to Scandallo not as big. There are two options 290 with 100 consumable or 500 all consumable so both better options than Scandallo. There are two floors first floor club scene with dJ / band second floor open area with a stage but no band at the time I was there. VIP areas looked very nice. I met a chill girl spinner type 26 years old quoted 2000 for per noite so a little better than the 3000 many Scandalo girls quote initially (I never pay that much). She explained the VIP areas all have couches in the doors behind and cost just over 1000 depending on which VIP area (some are bigger) not for me but some you ballers out there might want to try this. Overall, not as many girls or as big as Scandallo but is a good lower cost alternative to it. I would prefer here over Bahamas or cafe foto and even Scandallo on a given night.2000 toda la noche vs 3000 at Escandallo's, does that include the room? Do you fuck the girl in-house or do you bring her back to your place.
It would be nice having a boate putting competition pressure on Escandallo.
GiuseppeBonera
04-28-24, 15:21
2000 toda la noche vs 3000 at Escandallo's, does that include the room? Do you fuck the girl in-house or do you bring her back to your place.
It would be nice having a boate putting competition pressure on Escandallo.I always take to my hotel, anytime you plan to take for more than an hour the exit fee is less expensive than the room. That's another thing exit fee at scandalo is 300 here was 250. Its funny I had just found out about this place but has been around for many years I think was just remodeled last year just before formula 1. I think is good competition for scandallo place has a really nice vibe. The girl too was down to earth maybe got lucky to find her. I still think scandallo wins given the size of the place and quantity of girls but this is a great option!
Axel Heyst
04-28-24, 20:04
Hey Giuseppe, interesting report. I originally heard about Gauguin from one of my favorite repeat Bomboa girls, a petite blond spinner. I originally met this one about 1 year and half ago in Bomboa. She was sitting alone that night nursing a drink, and I instantly realized I had previously taken note of her advertisement pics on Club Model. I have posted about some of my trysts with her including a couple of "real" menage a trois we had together with her GF at my hotels.
Anyway, I was with her one night, just us, while I was staying at the Gran Estanplaza Berrini which as you know is across the street from Gauguin and during that visit she asked if I ever went to Gauguin. I said no and I asked her back if she ever went there and she said yes occasionally and added that sometimes it was pretty good there. So, I made note of that bit of info in the back of my brain, but I did not get around to checking the place out that trip.
Then one night on my next SP trip while I was staying again at the Gran Estanplaza Berrini I went there, but my experience was a little different than yours. KKK. That particular night was a national holiday. I had chatted with my all-time favorite Bomboa girl, Rafaella early in the day about her coming over to my place that night which was our usual thing. But she told me she was heading back home to RJ early that night to be with her family, and couldn't make it to my hotel, but she asked if I would like to stop by Bomboa early in the evening before she left town. I said Ok which is a measure of how much I liked her since seeing her in the club meant I was going to spend more $$ and have less time with her. But as this was to be our last time together on this trip, I was into it.
I went to Bomboa early, Rafaella was waiting for me, we had a drink and then went upstairs for a tender goodbye session and then had our "tearful" last kiss. I am not exaggerating. It really was a nice session, and the sex was out of this world. Rafa was always great in bed like being with a girl friend. Afterwords I had some dinner by myself in the club and then I started looking around for another girl to round out the evening. It was then that I realized Bomboa was half empty on account of the holiday and there were not any girls around that I really wanted to shag. Boo Hoo! I paid my tab and walked outside and called an Uber, ready to call it a night.
But while I waited for my ride, I saw these 2 sub-par Bomboa girls talking about where they were going to go next. The night was still young and the Bomboa customer pool that night had not been good for them. I overhead one of them say let's try Gauguin and the other agreed. I was in a good mood, and I told the girls I was going right across the street from Gauguin, and I would give them a ride if they wanted. KKK. My Uber arrived, the three of us piled into the back, and away we went.
My Gauguin experience: I paid the 290-entry option although at the time it was 190 if memory serves, and I said goodbye to the girls who had to pay their own, separate entry fee, and I walked inside to the main bar area. It was very dark, no live music, there were only 10 very ordinary girls tops hanging out at the bar, and maybe 2 or 3 customers. I got a drink and relaxed. I didn't really care about having a 2 fer that night because my last session Rafaela had been memorable and all I had to do was walk across the street to my hotel room whenever I felt like it. Then 2 Bomboa girls walked into the bar area, and they found a table to sit at. I consumed half my drink and then I wondered over to them and sat down. We talked and I asked them if Gauguin was always like this, "DEAD," and they said no, that sometimes it was really good echoing what my Bomboa blond club model girl had told me 6 months prior. The moral of the story is national holidays are not good nights to go Boate hunting unless you have made prior arrangements.
And that is my Gauguin story. I have not been back since that night, and never thought about going back, but your report has rekindled some level of interest in the joint and I might check the place out one more time in July. Who knows? It may be good or at least better than it was when I originally went there. I will let you know if I go. Rock on!
A. H.
Last night checked out Gauguin for the first time. I heard about it from one of my contacts and checked it out she said a lot of girls from Scandallo and cafe are switching to this club. First impression on a Friday night similar vibe to Scandallo not as big. There are two options 290 with 100 consumable or 500 all consumable so both better options than Scandallo. There are two floors first floor club scene with dJ / band second floor open area with a stage but no band at the time I was there. VIP areas looked very nice. I met a chill girl spinner type 26 years old quoted 2000 for per noite so a little better than the 3000 many Scandalo girls quote initially (I never pay that much). She explained the VIP areas all have couches in the doors behind and cost just over 1000 depending on which VIP area (some are bigger) not for me but some you ballers out there might want to try this. Overall, not as many girls or as big as Scandallo but is a good lower cost alternative to it. I would prefer here over Bahamas or cafe foto and even Scandallo on a given night.
Alex, I have never heard of this place. I will have to try it next time I am down in SP and give back a report. The Sheraton WTC tower is down the block, but, I always end up at Jardins. OMG, if I have had stayed at the Sheraton, I think I would of just came down in my pajamas and flip flops, walk down the block, walk in to Gaug pick a girl out, and back to my hotel we go. LOL I love SP.
...My Gauguin experience: I paid the 290-entry option although at the time it was 190 if memory serves, and I said goodbye to the girls who had to pay their own, separate entry fee, and I walked inside to the main bar area. It was very dark, no live music, there were only 10 very ordinary girls tops hanging out at the bar, and maybe 2 or 3 customers. I got a drink and relaxed. I didn't really care about having a 2 fer that night because my last session Rafaela had been memorable and all I had to do was walk across the street to my hotel room whenever I felt like it. Then 2 Bomboa girls walked into the bar area, and they found a table to sit at. I consumed half my drink and then I wondered over to them and sat down. We talked and I asked them if Gauguin was always like this, "DEAD," and they said no, that sometimes it was really good echoing what my Bomboa blond club model girl had told me 6 months prior. The moral of the story is national holidays are not good nights to go Boate hunting unless you have made prior arrangements.
And that is my Gauguin story. I have not been back since that night, and never thought about going back, but your report has rekindled some level of interest in the joint and I might check the place out one more time in July. Who knows? It may be good or at least better than it was when I originally went there. I will let you know if I go. Rock on!
A. H.
There is no pitching for it, most are not going to do it. If they are then you are taking huge risks with your health because they are doing it with a ton of people.
If you want BBFS you need to built rapport with these girls. Get to know them, drink with them, etc. Then when you are in the room you don't talk about it, you just fuck them after foreplay. If they ask you to put a condom on then you put one on, but in many cases they just go with the flow too.Yup. Asking for it upfront is not the best way. In my experience if you've been with a girl a couple times, there's a good chance she will initiate it. FWIW I do not look for or want BB, but I've had a number of times in Brasil and Colombia where I get comfortable with a girl and she just hops on my dick with no protection.
Axel Heyst
04-30-24, 12:50
Alex, I have never heard of this place. I will have to try it next time I am down in SP and give back a report. The Sheraton WTC tower is down the block, but, I always end up at Jardins. OMG, if I have had stayed at the Sheraton, I think I would of just came down in my pajamas and flip flops, walk down the block, walk in to Gaug pick a girl out, and back to my hotel we go. LOL I love SP.Yeah, you can't beat the location of the Sheraton / Gran Estanplaza Berrini / Hilton if Gaugin is the primary objective. In addition, the Wyndham Sao Paulo Berrini is right around the block and the Grand Hyatt, my favorite hotel in SP is only 5 blocks away. Still, this is not my favorite neighborhood to stay in. I much prefer to stay in Jardins and Itaim Bibi on account of the latter two's more interesting neighborhoods to walk around in and their more / better restaurants to choose from. In terms of boate proximity, I recommend the Marriott Exec and the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi both situated 2 blocks from Bomboa, my 2nd favorite boate in SP and a fairly fast Uber ride to Scandallo and the Moema clinicas.
A lot of business travelers stay adjacent to the World Trade Center (Sheraton / Gran Estanplaza Berrini / Hilton) complex which accounts for the particularly high prices these hotels, especially the Hilton, ask. I stay at the Hilton only on points and it usually costs a lot of points to stay there, significantly more than other Hilton properties say in BKK for example. I sometimes find reasonable rates at the Sheraton and the Gran Estanplaza Berrini. The latter is a very nice 4*. I like the balcony rooms, their quality breakfast, and the friendly staff. But the Grand Hyatt usually offers very good, discount good rates considering this hotel's high quality hence it is my favorite hotel in this proximate area. It all comes down to location, location, location and Price. From Gaugin's perspective, a boate could not want a better location. There must be a hell of a lot of businessmen types frequenting this club if GiuseppeBonera's report is accurate.
I love SP too. I think of it as the City of Women.
CCRider1008
04-30-24, 13:45
Yup. Asking for it upfront is not the best way. In my experience if you've been with a girl a couple times, there's a good chance she will initiate it. FWIW I do not look for or want BB, but I've had a number of times in Brasil and Colombia where I get comfortable with a girl and she just hops on my dick with no protection.Thanks. Much different than Asia. Only having 5 days in Rio and 4 days SP I don't have luxury of getting to know the girl over time. I'll have to play it by ear and let my charm and broken Portuguese do its magic. Or maybe pick someone up at a bjj gym or pay ridiculous USA prices for a fuck on SA like I've been reading lately. Fucking hate SA which is guess why they banned me.
Alex, I also never tried Bomboa https://bomboa.com.br . I have heard about it as other people have told me to check it out. But, Scandalo is my #1 but my #2 (as of lately) has been Bahamas Hotel Club. Love how they have the mirrors on the ceilings Been times, I take a girl (or two) out of Bahamas and we go to the swinger spot Hot Bar which is 3 blocks away. Makes for a fun night. But I'm back in SP next week, so I will check out Bomboa as well. What do you like most about it? In their website the spot looks small.
Yeah, you can't beat the location of the Sheraton / Gran Estanplaza Berrini / Hilton if Gaugin is the primary objective. In addition, the Wyndham Sao Paulo Berrini is right around the block and the Grand Hyatt, my favorite hotel in SP is only 5 blocks away. Still, this is not my favorite neighborhood to stay in. I much prefer to stay in Jardins and Itaim Bibi on account of the latter two's more interesting neighborhoods to walk around in and their more / better restaurants to choose from. In terms of boate proximity, I recommend the Marriott Exec and the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi both situated 2 blocks from Bomboa, my 2nd favorite boate in SP and a fairly fast Uber ride to Scandallo and the Moema clinicas.
A lot of business travelers stay adjacent to the World Trade Center (Sheraton / Gran Estanplaza Berrini / Hilton) complex which accounts for the particularly high prices these hotels, especially the Hilton, ask. I stay at the Hilton only on points and it usually costs a lot of points to stay there, significantly more than other Hilton properties say in BKK for example. I sometimes find reasonable rates at the Sheraton and the Gran Estanplaza Berrini. The latter is a very nice 4*. I like the balcony rooms, their quality breakfast, and the friendly staff. But the Grand Hyatt usually offers very good, discount good rates considering this hotel's high quality hence it is my favorite hotel in this proximate area. It all comes down to location, location, location and Price. From Gaugin's perspective, a boate could not want a better location. There must be a hell of a lot of businessmen types frequenting this club if GiuseppeBonera's report is accurate.
I love SP too. I think of it as the City of Women.
Axel Heyst
05-01-24, 13:20
Alex, I also never tried Bomboa https://bomboa.com.br . I have heard about it as other people have told me to check it out. But, Scandalo is my #1 but my #2 (as of lately) has been Bahamas Hotel Club. Love how they have the mirrors on the ceilings Been times, I take a girl (or two) out of Bahamas and we go to the swinger spot Hot Bar which is 3 blocks away. Makes for a fun night. But I'm back in SP next week, so I will check out Bomboa as well. What do you like most about it? In their website the spot looks small.Bomboa a unique boate and it resembles a neighborhood nightclub / supper club. I have said it before and I will say it again, Bomboa is a place where everyone knows your name. The staff are professional and friendly, and they really know how to take care of their customers. There is a fairly good restaurant on the 2nd floor and customers can eat there or have their food orders brought down to them in the bar area. Physically the club is about 2 x larger than Bahamas and about the size of Scandallo. The space was enlarged a little while back. The rooms are well maintained and most have mirrors.
I would rate Bomboa girl quality somewhere in between Scandallo and Bahamas. They don't have many tier 1 stunners, but there is usually an ample supply of tier 2 girl next door types although on average Bomboa's girl next doors appear to be a little older than Scandallo tier 2 types. That said, I always find a good girl there and sometimes I find a real diamond like my Rafa or Licia. Some Bomboa girls will ask as much as 1000 br, but they will readily accept a friendly counteroffer. I have never given a Bomboa girl more than 800 br and usually their price is between 600 br and 700 br. No hard negotiations are necessary. The girls are into friendly, if you know what I mean, hands on get to know you auditions over a drink or two. Some girls occasionally go wild and take off their clothes doing all sorts of crazy stuff with their customers in plain view of everyone else. There is always live musical entertainment. It is great boate!
The best time to go is between 9:30 and 10:00 on a Wednesday, Thursday or Friday night although like Scandallo, pretty girls keep arriving until around 11:00. Have fun!
A. H.
Axel Heyst
05-01-24, 13:23
I meant to say, physically Bomboa is about 2 x larger than Bahamas and about 1/4 the size of Scandallo.
Just wrapped another extended stay in SP. Here is the report.
Scandallo: went here on the first night I arrived, with a wingman I linked up here. I would rate the women here at 8-8. 5 on my book. They are fine, but just not really my type. I don't like too much makeup and perfume, which seems to be the theme with 8 out of 10 goratas here. I did not find the quality justify 1,500-2,000 they quoted me. My wingman went with a hot blonde for 1,500. He enjoyed it, said it was good. But the girl had piercings on her nipples so he did not like. This is a lesson for us to learn some Brazilian so we can ask before decided to go in.
The rest of days I visited clinicas in Moema, which is what I would recommend you to do as well. The average cost per hour is 300 reals. Girls quality rate 6. 5-8 on my book. I was able to find at least 2-3 8's a day, and even a 9 once, more on that later.
Prime: well reviewed here. Location is great, normal house, surrounded by plenty of businesses. The manager seems cold at first, but once she knows you she is really friendly. I sessioned 4 tiimes here. 3 were with the same girl, a skinny brunette. I would rate her a 7. 5, but real GFE. The last time I went she was not around so I went with a different woman. The session was fine, nothing to complain. I would recommend to start at this place, then go to other ones.
57: Came here twice, first time I didn't like anyone. But second time I chose a "curvy" brunette. Big ass and big boobs, all natural. I loved her body but did not like her face as much. I think many of you would find her attractive, but I liked the prime girl more.
Miruna: there was a hot blonde, they say it was her utimas dias so I picked her out of the line. She is a real talker, spoke some ingles. She knew the nasty words so maybe one of you taught her that. She might still be around, go find her haha.
Went to a few other ones in the same area, but did not like what I saw. I think I went to Enjoy, Moa, and Indy which is 20 minutes away by walking. There is a newish one, mentioned here as one of the two locations, 350 one hour. Saw a girl next door type, but I had already sessioned that day, so decided to pass.
Tangara and Yankin: if you know some brazilian, come here and you will have a great time. If you are gringo like me, still come here to see 20-30 girls at a time. I would say I would do 5 out of the line any day. Cheaper, at the low 200 range. The area around Yankin seems to be working class, but did not feel danger or anything.
To sum up: prime and miruna are my fav. Tangara and Yankin if you want to save some money. Excuse typos. Fun mongering.
What Axel says, after the erratum, is correct. The atmosphere in Bomboa is relaxed and you can find 8's often and 9's from time to time.
However, Bomboa is not cheap, after all expenses, a night of great action can cost as much as Scandallo, which is ok. Do not expect lower cost from average.
You can find lots of airbnbs around.
Production with a bomboa girl with solid bunda in bomboa neighborhood.
I meant to say, physically Bomboa is about 2 x larger than Bahamas and about 1/4 the size of Scandallo.
CCRider1008
05-02-24, 13:53
Just wrapped another extended stay in SP. Here is the report.
The rest of days I visited clinicas in Moema, which is what I would recommend you to do as well. The average cost per hour is 300 reals. Girls quality rate 6. 5-8 on my book. I was able to find at least 2-3 8's a day, and even a 9 once, more on that later.
To sum up: prime and miruna are my fav. Tangara and Yankin if you want to save some money. Excuse typos. Fun mongering.Good intell. Can I ask what times during the day did you visit the clinicas and when do you recommend going?
Moema spots are great. I prefer the Abbobora and Lushness Spa in the Moema area. Normally, hit those up early, at the opening bell. Want to be the one who gets first dibs on the girl for that day. Don't want her worn out by some of ya'll LOL As for Scandallo, 1500 - 2000 is about right. As soon as she hears the foreign accent, etc. After a few drinks, she relaxes, price always seems to be more negotiable. But Normally, I get right to the point, example, I don't like hair on the legs and booty. Some brazilian girls have hair on legs, and booty, and I just ask up front. Or if I want to put it in her ass that night, then I am up front with it. So, no surprises. And 10 out of 10 times, you end up finding exactly what you want for that day. Even tho our taste can change day by day.
Just wrapped another extended stay in SP. Here is the report.
Scandallo: went here on the first night I arrived, with a wingman I linked up here. I would rate the women here at 8-8. 5 on my book. They are fine, but just not really my type. I don't like too much makeup and perfume, which seems to be the theme with 8 out of 10 goratas here. I did not find the quality justify 1,500-2,000 they quoted me. My wingman went with a hot blonde for 1,500. He enjoyed it, said it was good. But the girl had piercings on her nipples so he did not like. This is a lesson for us to learn some Brazilian so we can ask before decided to go in.
Tangara and Yankin: if you know some brazilian, come here and you will have a great time. If you are gringo like me, still come here to see 20-30 girls at a time. I would say I would do 5 out of the line any day. Cheaper, at the low 200 range. The area around Yankin seems to be working class, but did not feel danger or anything.
To sum up: prime and miruna are my fav. Tangara and Yankin if you want to save some money. Excuse typos. Fun mongering.
I saw that they are also building a Westin a few blocks away. Looks like its going to be real nice. Normally, I go to these spots with a budget in mind. I used get 3 girls back in the days, and have the energy to bang all three at the same time. Now, I'm more like, GFE all day LOL and we bang three different ways.
What Axel says, after the erratum, is correct. The atmosphere in Bomboa is relaxed and you can find 8's often and 9's from time to time.
However, Bomboa is not cheap, after all expenses, a night of great action can cost as much as Scandallo, which is ok. Do not expect lower cost from average.
You can find lots of airbnbs around.
Production with a bomboa girl with solid bunda in bomboa neighborhood.
Has anyone received the same request as this. Two days, I go I contacted one on ClubModel. She asked me to send her a photo of me and she only wanted to do incall. She didn't want to come to hotel spot. I didn't send any photo's. Heck to the no. What are your thoughts?
Bang Koker
05-03-24, 17:32
Has anyone received the same request as this. Two days, I go I contacted one on ClubModel. She asked me to send her a photo of me and she only wanted to do incall. She didn't want to come to hotel spot. I didn't send any photo's. Heck to the no. What are your thoughts?My first Brazilian GP wanted me to either pix her $$ for an uber or to order her an uber for an outcall to my place. I didn't even have uber installed at that time and obv I couldn't have pix as a foreigner so she asked me to send her a photo of mine. So I did, to which she replied "Você parece ser bonzinho" and we agreed that I'll just pay her cash after she arrives.
Fun fact: she left a piece of clothing at my condohotel and when she came to pick it up two days later I talked her into giving me one more quick BJ free of charge.
Moema spots are great. I prefer the Abbobora and Lushness Spa in the Moema area. Normally, hit those up early, at the opening bell. Want to be the one who gets first dibs on the girl for that day. Don't want her worn out by some of ya'll LOL As for Scandallo, 1500 - 2000 is about right. As soon as she hears the foreign accent, etc. After a few drinks, she relaxes, price always seems to be more negotiable. But Normally, I get right to the point, example, I don't like hair on the legs and booty. Some brazilian girls have hair on legs, and booty, and I just ask up front. Or if I want to put it in her ass that night, then I am up front with it. So, no surprises. And 10 out of 10 times, you end up finding exactly what you want for that day. Even tho our taste can change day by day.To add on to this at Scandallo, if the girl speaks English, you are definitely paying the 1500 - 2000. Like some have stated in this thread, it might be a better option to chat up a girl you like through the night, see if her vibe is right, then meet her outside of the club. I've done this a couple of times and got more bang for my time and money. Of course, it depends on if you have the time or desire, to hang with a girl for an extended amount of time.
Bang Koker
05-04-24, 20:19
To add on to this at Scandallo, if the girl speaks English, you are definitely paying the 1500 - 2000.Actually during my first and only visit in Scandallo a year ago, I easily negotiated an hour upstairs down from R1000 (technically the R1000 was an answer to my question on how much she usually charges, not her quote directly to me) to R500 with a decent looking English speaking girl. But given that all the guys in the thread state that they pay way more I don't think the fact that I'm in late 20's and about 190 cm tall had much to do with it, probably was just lucky, especially as I subjectively consider my overall physical attractiveness as slightly below average.
Maybe what could be the deciding factor was that I showed her the girl from a website I spent an hour with earlier that month, who had previously won a state-wide beauty contest in one of Brazilian states, and was also charging only R500 for an incall (which I proved by showing her my whatsapp chat history with her)? After that when I wanted to show her something else, IDR exactly what but as soon as I opened instagram app she immediately told me she doesn't want me to show her any more other women LOL.
Also she tried to kiss me about 5 minutes into our conversation at Scandallo's restaurant, is that normal with these women?
Steve 9696
05-05-24, 12:28
Actually during my first and only visit in Scandallo a year ago, I easily negotiated an hour upstairs down from R1000 (technically the R1000 was an answer to my question on how much she usually charges, not her quote directly to me) to R500 with a decent looking English speaking girl. But given that all the guys in the thread state that they pay way more I don't think the fact that I'm in late 20's and about 190 cm tall had much to do with it, probably was just lucky, especially as I subjectively consider my overall physical attractiveness as slightly below average.
Maybe what could be the deciding factor was that I showed her the girl from a website I spent an hour with earlier that month, who had previously won a state-wide beauty contest in one of Brazilian states, and was also charging only R500 for an incall (which I proved by showing her my whatsapp chat history with her)? After that when I wanted to show her something else, IDR exactly what but as soon as I opened instagram app she immediately told me she doesn't want me to show her any more other women LOL.
Also she tried to kiss me about 5 minutes into our conversation at Scandallo's restaurant, is that normal with these women?I agree the 1500-2000 seems high, based on our experience. Between us Mark and I took five girls to the room for an hour. All top tier. Generally they asked 1500 but took 1000,1100, 1200, and 1500. There was only one that stuck to her guns on 1500 - she could tell she had Mark by the balls. But the others were all more reasonable. As always YMMV.
But given that all the guys in the thread state that they pay way more They probably are taking a different type of girls. It's YMMV but the reports here will get people used to the high price. I think speaking English does not matter that much in price, beauty comes first.
Also she tried to kiss me about 5 minutes into our conversation at Scandallo's restaurant, is that normal with these women?In my experience, no, especially not in the restaurant.
Alright fellows, I have been perusing through a lot of discussions, sites, etc. For the past several months and as I get closer to my trip I am asking for your input as I complete my stops, specifically with clinicas.
Below is my line up that I think will be within close proximity to Moema. They are not in particular order but need your assistance to fill in question marks?
Please correct also if I am greatly mistaken on the information I have.
1. Lotus Lounge.
Type: Ipad system.
Area: Jardins.
Approximate Price: 700-800 reales.
Does it have a bar: Yes.
2. Abobora.
Type: Actual line-up.
Area: Concelao.
Approximate Price: 400 reales.
Does it have a bar: Yes.
Website: ?
3. Palms.
Type: Ipad system.
Area: Brooklin.
Approximate Price: 800-900 reales.
Does it have a bar: No.
4. Sharon Premium.
Type: Ipad system.
Area: Moema.
Approximate Price: 650 reales.
Does it have a bar: Yes.
5. Prime.
Type: Ipad system.
Area: Brooklin.
Approximate Price: 600 reales.
Does it have a bar: No.
Website: ?
6. Miruna.
Type: Line up.
Area: Villa Mariana.
Approximate Price: 600 reales.
Does it have a bar: No.
Website: ?
7. Baronesas.
Type: Ipad system.
Area: Congonhas.
Approximate Price: 700-800 reales.
Does it have a bar: Yes.
8. Yankin.
Type: Line up.
Area: Near Moema.
Approximate Price: 400 reales.
Does it have a bar: No.
Website: ?
9. Tangara.
Type: Line up.
Area: Ibirapuera Park area.
Approximate Price: 450 reales.
Does it have a bar: No.
Website: ?
10. Oro.
Type: Ipad system.
Area: ?
Approximate Price: ? Reales.
Does it have a bar: ?
Website: ?
11. Taj Mahal.
Type: Line up.
Area: Villa Mariana.
Approximate Price: 600 reales.
Does it have a bar: No.
Website: ?Prime is not an iPad system, they have an actual lineup.
I agree the 1500-2000 seems high, based on our experience. Between us Mark and I took five girls to the room for an hour. All top tier. Generally they asked 1500 but took 1000,1100, 1200, and 1500. There was only one that stuck to her guns on 1500 - she could tell she had Mark by the balls. But the others were all more reasonable. As always YMMV.Simply asking because I plan on breaking my Brazil cherry soon. And if my math is right they're asking for 1500-2000 which is 300-400 usd for one pop?? Is that about right?
Nah. I think they are debating that the "ask" is about 1500-2000. But that's that not what you should pay. They will always ask for more. The folks here are saying don't fall for that higher price ask. Always negotiate it down. Some even got it down to R500.
Simply asking because I plan on breaking my Brazil cherry soon. And if my math is right they're asking for 1500-2000 which is 300-400 usd for one pop?? Is that about right?
I agree the 1500-2000 seems high, based on our experience. Between us Mark and I took five girls to the room for an hour. All top tier. Generally they asked 1500 but took 1000,1100, 1200, and 1500. There was only one that stuck to her guns on 1500 - she could tell she had Mark by the balls. But the others were all more reasonable. As always YMMV.You guys both took 5 girls in total to one room? Sounds like quite a fiesta!
Go big or go home, LOL!
You guys both took 5 girls in total to one room? Sounds like quite a fiesta!
Steve 9696
05-08-24, 02:28
You guys both took 5 girls in total to one room? Sounds like quite a fiesta!Hahah. No it was all one on one. But I remembered wrong. We went two different nights and each took 2 two girls each night (different sessions). So a total of 8 girls but one was the same girl so really seven. All were in that 1000-1200 range except Gabi at 1500.
That said, I did have a "seven-some" with sn amazing old dude (70) at Globe in Zurich a few weeks back. He had three girls and I had two. There was flogging (another guy), watersports, and a banana. It was really something. I posted it in the seeking arrangements thread. Worth a read. It was epic.
Here is day 2 with the sevensome. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements/page3
U might want to start with day one a few posts prior to get the background.
Axel Heyst
05-08-24, 12:53
Nah. I think they are debating that the "ask" is about 1500-2000. But that's that not what you should pay. They will always ask for more. The folks here are saying don't fall for that higher price ask. Always negotiate it down. Some even got it down to R500.Most Scandallo girls that ask 1500-2000 are high quality tier 1. If I like / want the girl, I will counter with 1/2 of her offer and will go as high as 1/2 + 200. This approach has only failed me 1 time and there were extenuating circumstances for that lone one time: while I was interviewing the girl over a drink, her GF had lined up 3 VIP Brazilians waiting for her in the wings with open bottles of liquor, so the girl had little incentive to accept my counter. But except for that one time, really hot tier 1's have always quoted me in the 1500-2000 range, say 2000 and I always countered with 1000 and we always settled on 1000 or 1200.
Most tier 2 Scandallo girls will ask 1200 or far, far less. I apply roughly the same approach as with tier 1's and counter with half and I am willing to settle for 1/2 + 200. So if a tier 2 l asks 800, I will counter with 600 or 700 (not 400), and if I like the girl I am even willing to accept her 800 original. Nothing is set in stone. My main point here is that I have never paid more than 800 for a pretty Scandallo girl next door type.
Interestingly, when I first started visiting Scandallo during Omicron (Oct 2021) all the girls I interviewed were asking 500 to 700. My pretty Valeria was asking 500 and I immediately accepted her offer. Later in April 2022 on my 3rd SP trip and after our 5th or 6th time in-house, she suggested the idea of a modified ST which amounted to 5 to 7 hours at my hotel (no clock watching), and multiple you know what for 900 and I happily accepted the upsell. It is a good price for what I am receiving in return, but it ain't exactly cheap in that that we always enjoy a bottle of "quality" red wine (200 and up), sometimes we indulge in smoke (delivered to my hotel), and we always have either room service, delivery or we go out for dinner. All the incidentals add up, but who cares. I really like this girl and I see her like 3 x a week on Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday nights when I am in town. Sundays, Mondays and holidays are slow nights. Valeria makes those nights memorable and I am looking forward to seeing her many times this June thru July.
Hahah. No it was all one on one. But I remembered wrong. We went two different nights and each took 2 two girls each night (different sessions). So a total of 8 girls but one was the same girl so really seven. All were in that 1000-1200 range except Gabi at 1500. Gabi must have been hot! I wrote that I have never paid more than 1200, but that doesn't mean I will never pay more for a real looker if I really like / want her. KKK. It's only money. I rule nothing out.
Steve 9696
05-08-24, 17:41
As usual Axel is spot on. As to Gabi I didn't find her that hot — she was Marks girl and Mark is a newbie. She's a real pro and knew she had him by the balls. I would never have taken her for 1500 but he was quite smitten w her (think a very sophisticated secretary who is very naughty). He reported she was great in the room and in fact had her for another 90 minutes over at the hotel. She's all business about the $$ though. Tough negotiator!
FilthyBeaver
05-08-24, 17:54
To each his own, my 10 is your 8, ymmv, and chemistry is everything. Who cares what it costs. Money is only something you need if you don't die tomorrow.
As usual Axel is spot on. As to Gabi I didn't find her that hot she was Marks girl and Mark is a newbie. She's a real pro and knew she had him by the balls. I would never have taken her for 1500 but he was quite smitten w her (think a very sophisticated secretary who is very naughty). He reported she was great in the room and in fact had her for another 90 minutes over at the hotel. She's all business about the $$ though. Tough negotiator!
I am currently enjoying my time in Medellin, Colombia. My plan is to visit all South American countries, so now I'm thinking of moving on to Brazil. Any advice you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated!
From what I've seen, scandalo in São Paulo seems to be the best brothel in the world, is that correct?
I don't know where to visit between Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo.
Which city is better for a sex tour?
And in which cities is it easier to find a date, and not just for prostitution?
And is it true that Brazil has the hottest girls? I think Colombian girls are more reserved.
As usual Axel is spot on. As to Gabi I didn't find her that hot she was Marks girl and Mark is a newbie. She's a real pro and knew she had him by the balls. I would never have taken her for 1500 but he was quite smitten w her (think a very sophisticated secretary who is very naughty). He reported she was great in the room and in fact had her for another 90 minutes over at the hotel. She's all business about the $$ though. Tough negotiator!Not that unusual. I have seen and experienced it. You just click with some people and they are better when they are with you. That just makes the sex better. And I am always willing to find that person. A model can process you and she will not be worth much. The factor I use to determine if she is good is how often I will repeat with her. People who are really good are usually busy. Then you have to bid higher to get her time.
Most Scandallo girls that ask 1500-2000 are high quality tier 1. If I like / want the girl, I will counter with 1/2 of her offer and will go as high as 1/2 + 200. This approach has only failed me 1 time and there were extenuating circumstances for that lone one time: while I was interviewing the girl over a drink, her GF had lined up 3 VIP Brazilians waiting for her in the wings with open bottles of liquor, so the girl had little incentive to accept my counter. But except for that one time, really hot tier 1's have always quoted me in the 1500-2000 range, say 2000 and I always countered with 1000 and we always settled on 1000 or 1200.
Most tier 2 Scandallo girls will ask 1200 or far, far less. I apply roughly the same approach as with tier 1's and counter with half and I am willing to settle for 1/2 + 200. So if a tier 2 l asks 800, I will counter with 600 or 700 (not 400), and if I like the girl I am even willing to accept her 800 original. Nothing is set in stone. My main point here is that I have never paid more than 800 for a pretty Scandallo girl next door type.
Interestingly, when I first started visiting Scandallo during Omicron (Oct 2021) all the girls I interviewed were asking 500 to 700. My pretty Valeria was asking 500 and I immediately accepted her offer. Later in April 2022 on my 3rd SP trip and after our 5th or 6th time in-house, she suggested the idea of a modified ST which amounted to 5 to 7 hours at my hotel (no clock watching), and multiple you know what for 900 and I happily accepted the upsell. It is a good price for what I am receiving in return, but it ain't exactly cheap in that that we always enjoy a bottle of "quality" red wine (200 and up), sometimes we indulge in smoke (delivered to my hotel), and we always have either room service, delivery or we go out for dinner. All the incidentals add up, but who cares. I really like this girl and I see her like 3 x a week on Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday nights when I am in town. Sundays, Mondays and holidays are slow nights. Valeria makes those nights memorable and I am looking forward to seeing her many times this June thru July.
Gabi must have been hot! I wrote that I have never paid more than 1200, but that doesn't mean I will never pay more for a real looker if I really like / want her. KKK. It's only money. I rule nothing out.Who classifies each girl as Tier 1 or Tier 2?
One guy's Tier 1 may not be another's.
What if a girl believes she is Tier 1 but to you she's not, however, she starts out at Tier 1 pricing?
Do you tell her, amor, me perdoe, mas voce não e de Tier 1 lol
Axel Heyst
05-09-24, 17:33
A true 8. 5-10 in Colombia. LOL.
Are you the official judge of who gets that rating?
A true 8. 5-10 anywhere is in the eye of the beholder. Not what you may believe is a 9 or a 10.
Isn't this just common sense?
A young, skinny, teen looking girl may be someone's 9 or 10, though you may rate her as a Bello nada.
An Instagram model with big fake boobs and fake booty with lots of pretty makeup that may charge 3 million pesos may be someone's 10, but to others, not so much.
Who classifies each girl as Tier 1 or Tier 2?
One guy's Tier 1 may not be another's.
What if a girl believes she is Tier 1 but to you she's not, however, she starts out at Tier 1 pricing?
Do you tell her, amor, me perdoe, mas voce no e de Tier 1 lolOf course you are right, every single punter has his own idea of what is hot and what is not so hot and I am quite sure that my preference for slender, natural, not too much makeup, kind of pretty girl is not what some others are looking for.
I use the Tier 1,2,3,4 terminology because I think it is more descriptive and less subjective than the more familiar 1 thru 10 star descriptions. Here is an example of what I mean: a BM goes to a popular boate like Bomboa and has a great time. Then he posts a report about his experience and states that the bar was filled with 9's and 10's. Other than getting the point that the BM had a real good time, I find not much informative value in such a description because personally I have only seen 1 or 2 8's in Bomboa in the last 3. 5 years and zero 9's. Same same for a high end place like Scandallo. On a good night I see a lot of plus 7's I. E. Very attractive girls, but very few real 8's and no 9's or 10's. Yes, I am a tough grader. I have been punting for a long time and it takes a high level of looks to blow me away. Meanwhile some other guys are star inflaters although I am sure they believe what they are posting.
I have explained my tier evaluation system a few times on this forum. Basically, a Tier 1, IMHO, is a natural stunner or model quality girl whose outstanding good looks grab my attention the moment I see her. In a split second I know what I am viewing because the girl stands out way above the crowd. This would correspond to a 7. 5* and up type girl in the star system and IMHO I believe that Scandallo has the largest quantity of these kinds of girls (stunners) anywhere. In fact I think this club enjoys a higher ratio of stunners than comparable Jakarta top end bordellos, the best BKK soapies, or my favorite Macau saunas. Scandallo ranks high. That is why I like it so much.
Now here is where the first issue you mention comes into play I. E. "one guy's Tier 1 may not be another's:" in Scandallo for example, in addition to the Tier 1's that I have described above, there is also a group of girls with very beautiful faces, but they are not slender, they sport more than hourglass figures thanks to their large fake breasts and huge bundas. I don't go for this type at all, but I know many guys do. I rate these girls Tier 3 because there is no way I am going upstairs with one of them. Been there, done that, so yeah, I agree with you; my tier 1 may be someone else's tier 3 and someone's tier 1 might be my tier 3. I have never posted anything contrary to this.
Tier 2's are, IMHO, nice looking, pretty, girl next door types with slender natural bodies. Tier 2's would be 5. 8 star to 7. 49 star in the star rating system. Tier 2's are actually my favorite type of girl in Scandallo. I don"t think there is much disagreement with this description although I aware that many guys are not looking for this type of girl. More for me and at a better price point.
And then there are Tier 4's which IMHO are unfuckable, KKK. I am talking about girls with plain faces (I am being kind) and fat or beyond the pale ridiculous bodies. But yeah, some guys really like this type too. We have all seen happy, very happy punters in Scandallo playing around with tier 4 type girls. Proof that there is no accounting for taste, but let me be perfectly clear, I am not knocking it. As John Lenon once said, "whatever gets you thru the night. It's all right, it's all right. It's your money or your life. It's all right, it's all right".
Now to your 2nd point: "What if a girl believes she is Tier 1 but to you she's not, however, she starts out at Tier 1 pricing? Actually, this does not occur very often in SP boates, but my response would be simple: if a girl asks for more than I think she is worth, I politely end the interview and walkaway. I don't care what her reasoning is. She may think she is a higher category girl than I think she is or she might be trying to hustle me because she thinks I am a dumb gringo with a large wallet. In either case I walk. There are plenty of friendly and eligible girls standing in the wings that I can choose from instead.
But here is the thing: Most Scandallo girls are very well aware of their position on the totem pole So most Tier 1's know where they rank in the Scandallo hierarchy and they will initially ask for something in the 1500 to 2000 price range and are willing to settle for less. Most Tier 2's also know where they rank in the Scandallo hierarchy and they will start off in the 800 to 1200 price range and are willing to settle for less. So it is very rare in my boate expereince for a Tier 2 to ask me for more and they nearly always are willing to settle for something in the 600 to 800 ball park.
It is what I would label as Tier 3 girls where this might seem a little tricky because some of these Tier 3 girls are very popular and have very attractive faces, but they also come with large silly cones and / or large bundas. So many of this type of Scandallo girl will rate and price themselves as a Tier 1 girl. Thus a girl like this will most likely ask large and in such a situation it is up to you, what you want to do about it. I mean, if this is what you like, then go for it. If not, punt and find a different girl more to your liking. It is that simple.
Cmon, Balboa, if you, Alex, and me were sitting at a table together at Scandallo and a "Tier 1" walked by per Alex's Tier 1 standards, its going to be a 98% chance we all going to agree. LOL but I get ya' point. Tier 1 is the whole package GFE + Looks for me.
Who classifies each girl as Tier 1 or Tier 2?
One guy's Tier 1 may not be another's.
What if a girl believes she is Tier 1 but to you she's not, however, she starts out at Tier 1 pricing?
Do you tell her, amor, me perdoe, mas voce no e de Tier 1 lol
Cmon, Balboa, if you, Alex, and me were sitting at a table together at Scandallo and a "Tier 1" walked by per Alex's Tier 1 standards, its going to be a 98% chance we all going to agree. LOL but I get ya' point. Tier 1 is the whole package GFE + Looks for me.Shaun we've all been there. Many times.
A buddy says, damn look at that girl! She's a 10! (Tier1).
And you say, where?
He says, her! And points to a girl.
And you think uh huh, she's a maybe Tier2/3 LOL.
Whatever though, I'm just kidding around.
I do my own rating and negotiating system and it's not really analytical.
I'm in SP now.
Hit Casaro last night. I saw 3 girls that I liked and wanted to meet.
The first one I approached was too cold and too pro. Gong sounded in my head, lol, I rejected her silently and left her.
The other 2 were both great!
Very good looking imo, very cool, sweet, affectionate.
We talked a bit and went and had fun together, individually.
No formulas or equations.
Whatever works for each guy is great.
I'm fortunate to be able to speak pretty good portuguese, I'm good at dando papo, and reading a girl.
If she thinks I'm cool and feels comfortable with me, she'll give me a reasonable amount when I ask about it.
If she gives me a ridiculous price, I don't even want to counter, I just politely leave her.
Both girls last night offered me a perfect price, and I said vamos!
That's just me though.
To each their own, I'm cool with that.
I hit a couple trash buildings today, and among the many not so good looking girls, I found a 19 year old diamond imo, and I took her to a motel around the corner.
Great time.
Back to Casarao tonite :)
Scandalo probably tomorrow to feel the nicer ambiance, and see what happens.
I’ll go in tranquilo, after meeting up with the 19 year old sweety again beforehand.
Fique de boa!
I do my own rating and negotiating system and it's not really analytical.Yeah, keep it simple. So, if you're talking to a girl and your dick is hard then she must at least be a 7 on your personal optics scale hahaha! No need to over analyze LOL!
A few things wished I had known earlier. I prefer a neighborhood like Moema. It's walkable to clinics without having so many tourists and shops. The airport noise is a real deal in Moema. Finally found a studio condo building with double-paned glass, and modern appliances, 4 minute's walk from Prime, Miruna, Abbobhrs, and 7 min Uber to CGH. It is called Allure Moema.
Av. Dos Imars, 508 - Moema, So Paulo. I paid are $300 reais per night. Excellent value and the plane noise was dramatically reduced. I slept well after a night of scandal partying. I tried different places around Moema Tsue Flats, Hotel Bourbon, Charlie Stay, Ibis, Club Suites, Cozzy Suites, Intercity, Comfort, airplane noise, soundproof rooms were Bourbon, Condo Allure Moema, and Cozzy Suites closer to Tangara. It's outside of the CGH flight path.
Wished I had known earlier about Lush Motel and how it works. This has been a fantastic 3-hour option to meet garotas after work or outside the clinicas. My style isn't to bring untested, unknown garotas back to Airbnb. Stuff happens. Prefer the MO to bang them in clinics, onsite boats, or even better short-term motel Lush for hours of fun.
Wish I had known earlier about which airlines to take between RIo and So Paulo or CGH airport to SDU. There are so many flight options. The longer you wait to book expect to pay a USD 400 to USD 700 ticket that usually costs $60 to 80 dollars one way. The choices are Gol, Azul, and Latam. Flight occurs every 15 or 20 min throughout the day between CGH and SDU airport. I have flown each airline because wanted to decide for myself. I want flights with the most flexibility to do same-day change, cause when I'm deep in garotas pussy threesome, damn easier to extend the time by changing to later flights. Azul and Latam worked easier for me to make changes to the mobile phone. For Gol had to visit the CGH airport service desk to change for my preferred time to depart. And other considerations include bilingual staff when stuff goes wrong, and flights are canceled. In my opinion, Gol had the least bilingual speakers at CGH and SDU airports. Azul was great. The flight reminded me of Jetblue. Aisle and window 2-2 configuration. Latam was like a friggin bus station, which sucks when it's raining in Rio. There a floods everywhere especially in the center is a mess.
For most flexibility same-day changes, frequency of options between SDU and CGH, and a few more bilingual speakers Azul has been a good choice for my needs. YMMV and your experience will vary too!
Just sharing how I roll.
Few things wished I knew about Scandallo. After a while, I saw the same garotas over a few months. After banging them it's a bit awkward conversation a month later, how terrible they were in bed and will never repeat with her or her girlfriend again. They had the same conversation with me. The facefuck sex is too aggressive because messes up her makeup. Ruins her eyelashes, lipsticks, and fake blonde hair extensions. She said the other scandallo garotas gossip about my reputation for being, cheap, at are $800 reais, going at it for two hours. And how I never paid are $1000 to any chica in Scandallo. They enjoy the company, jokes, and food but the sex is too much unless two garotas same time. I thanked her for sharing the latest gossip. Moved on to the next new to Scandallo Cutie. It's been awkward trying to remember if the Garota I see that is attractive is new or if we banged in session on a previous visit. Truly don't remember without checking if her number comes up on wassap.
Things wish I knew about clinicas. Schedule the time in advance with my favorite garotas for a two-hour session booking. I like the four hands, and two garota offers in the clinical. Especially with the amateur porno stars and only fans collection of porn gals working a few days in different clinics. I learned to book two-hour sessions to have a relaxed time with two garotas. At the florists rate.
Going back to Rio tonight to meetup with the sexy attractive hood garotas, and another visit Monte Carlo.
Wished I had known earlier about Lush Motel and how it works. Nice write. Where is this motel? I can't find it on google. How much did you pay for 3 hours and passport required?
Nice write. Where is this motel? I can't find it on google. How much did you pay for 3 hours and passport required?Lush Motel (unidade Ipiranga).
Av. Do Estado, 6600 - Vila Monumento, So Paulo. SP, 03105-000, Brazil.
I don't carry passport. I have color copy of the passport photo page. Office buildings security, Scandallo, short term hotels, TIM mobile to buy sim, have accepted it as ID. I inserted the copy into a laminated plastic that hold those stupid covid vaccine cards.
Lush The cost for each suite is different. Reais $300 to are $400 reais, foots on the website. Pay by credit card or cash. Credit card is easier. They have a touchscreen at the front entrance lists room themes type, water, spa, and 3, 6 , 12 hour time. The front desk was bilingual which helped during checkout. Has No problem with garotas arriving in uber. Sent her photo of the room number and garage door entrance, to reassure I was there. The gp-guia site with all the love motels is damn helpful. Thanks vagbundo for sharing that site earlier.
Yeah, keep it simple. So, if you're talking to a girl and your dick is hard then she must at least be a 7 on your personal optics scale hahaha! No need to over analyze LOL!Can't argue with that! LOL.
Dang, Balboa, you are right tho. Have you tried Casarao on Sunday or Monday nights? They said its cowboy night on Sunday. I am going to go check it out, maybe bang a cutie in her cowboy boots.
Shaun we've all been there. Many times.
Back to Casarao tonite :)
Scandalo probably tomorrow to feel the nicer ambiance, and see what happens.
Ill go in tranquilo, after meeting up with the 19 year old sweety again beforehand.
Fique de boa!
Tochka there are also PassPort cards you can get. In my wallet I carry the PP card and leave the original PP at my hotel safe. Lush is great. For Lush I like to go with two cuties, and watch them swim like two little dolphins LOL bang one, the other joins, the other goes back in the pool, while I continue with other. Its fun times.
Lush Motel (unidade Ipiranga).
Av. Do Estado, 6600 - Vila Monumento, So Paulo. SP, 03105-000, Brazil.
I don't carry passport. I have color copy of the passport photo page. Office buildings security, Scandallo, short term hotels, TIM mobile to buy sim, have accepted it as ID. I inserted the copy into a laminated plastic that hold those stupid covid vaccine cards.
Lush The cost for each suite is different. Reais $300 to are $400 reais, foots on the website. Pay by credit card or cash. Credit card is easier. They have a touchscreen at the front entrance lists room themes type, water, spa, and 3, 6 , 12 hour time. The front desk was bilingual which helped during checkout. Has No problem with garotas arriving in uber. Sent her photo of the room number and garage door entrance, to reassure I was there. The gp-guia site with all the love motels is damn helpful. Thanks vagbundo for sharing that site earlier.
Tochka there are also PassPort cards you can get. In my wallet I carry the PP card and leave the original PP at my hotel safe. Lush is great. For Lush I like to go with two cuties, and watch them swim like two little dolphins LOL bang one, the other joins, the other goes back in the pool, while I continue with other. Its fun times.Damn fucking-A good idea going to try that shit tonite with two garotas.
Wished I had known earlier just go to TIM store, buy fking SIM card with data 150 reais plan. No passport, no CPF. E-sim done. I went to the one in Rio, new store just opened last Friday. The service guy is bilingual. He installed e-sim paid by credit card, 20-30 min, Boom internet data immediately activated and done with a local phone number. Easy peasy. Now I can use the local phone number to get food discounts at Gedai japenese takeout. Plus all other junk spam text message offers. Sigh. How why'all M-Fers get my brazilian local number to spam me with useless offers in less than 1 HR of being activated.
Few things wished I knew about laundry. Always get an airbnb condo with laundry washer dryer in the apartment or in the building. It took a while to figure out the OmO laundry self service app, and instructions of how to pay for the laundry service. Gee whiz, complicated stupid cloud mobile apps just to do friggin laundry. Of course CPF needed. Hey dudes I need less apps in my life not more.
Damn fucking-A good idea going to try that shit tonite with two garotas.
Wished I had known earlier just go to TIM store, buy fking SIM card with data 150 reais plan. No passport, no CPF. E-sim done. I went to the one in Rio, new store just opened last Friday. The service guy is bilingual. He installed e-sim paid by credit card, 20-30 min, Boom internet data immediately activated and done with a local phone number. Easy peasy. Now I can use the local phone number to get food discounts at Gedai japenese takeout. Plus all other junk spam text message offers. How much data do you get with that plan? 5 g or 4 g?
To add on to this at Scandallo, if the girl speaks English, you are definitely paying the 1500 - 2000. Like some have stated in this thread, it might be a better option to chat up a girl you like through the night, see if her vibe is right, then meet her outside of the club. I've done this a couple of times and got more bang for my time and money. Of course, it depends on if you have the time or desire, to hang with a girl for an extended amount of time.Not for me. All the girls I took, spoke English and looked good. 7 or 8 and nver paid above 800 reals. Last one spoke English and claimed she was a student from Belo Horizonte. Like I cared. Went to the room and she connected to the bluetooth and played Travis Scott from her spotify play list. Rate 800 reals. Started from 1000 and got 800. I didn't want to bargain further as I wanted to call it a night.
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