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Rxylirate

09-13-24, 20:09

Hello,

I'm not a regular here but I've found the message board helpful on my most recent trip and wanted to share my experiences to give back what I can.

To start my Portuguese leaves a lot to be desired but I can carry a basic conversation with the help of a translator for some vocabulary I may not know. I think as someone else mentioned many of the people in the clubs are spending a lot of time with the girls. It wasn't uncommon for me to see the same girls with the same guys the entire night. I visited scandy, casaroa, and cafe foto during my trip and noticed this at all three places. I think this may be contributing to the higher asking prices that many are reporting here because the girls are used to quoting prices based on how much time they have to spend with clients now. If they are going all night with only 1 person then the price charged has to be higher than if they were able to go with multiple clients a night. I myself have definitely noticed the increased prices since my last trip many years ago. I am probably contributing to the problem though because unlike the ever horny me of many years past I actually enjoy the company of a nice women while I relax in the club now. I am definitely one of those people that will stay with a girl I like the entire night. I'm sorry if any of you were waiting for a girl I was with haha. This brings me back to my initial comment about my Portuguese. If you know a bit of Portuguese I think it makes a big difference. You can build a rapport with the women easier and they are more likely to give you a better experience and time. Just knowing a bit of Portuguese is in itself a conversation topic to be honest. Although these are working girls the working conditions do matter to them and they enjoy a nice conversation and time just as much as anyone else. Another thing I highly recommend is to groom yourself well. Smell nice and be decently dressed etc. The girls do talk quite a bit amongst themselves and it will get around if you have bad breath, stink, or are otherwise unkempt. Girls will likely not turn you down because money is money after all but they may charge you more. As far as prices are concerned the prices are high to be honest. Higher than I expected to be paying. If you are coming for cheap high quality girls then I think that ship has sailed. My standards are high so ymmv. My 5 may be someone else's 8 so in that regard someone might still find good value here but for me the price for the top tier talent doesn't warrant a dedicated trip anymore. I can find similar talent in Tijuana for a similar price and it is much closer and accessible to me. I am not sure about European or Asian pricing but I can't imagine it being worse or much worse than So Paulo now. For reference I received quotes ranging from 1. 5 to 3 k. The price varied depending on the quality of the girl. If she was a 7-8 then it was usually around 1500. If she was a 9-10 then it was usually 2 k and up. If you can snag a 10 for 1 k or less then more power to you. These were just my experiences. Don't forget to add in the door fee, Uber, room fee or take out fee of the girl. For example 500 entrance, 350 ish room or take out fee for scandy.

As for my experiences with the girls I was lucky and didn't have a single bad experience. Again I think I built up a decent rapport with each girl though. I think if you are just going for the quick nut your mileage will likely vary a lot more. I usually spend hours with a girl before taking her anywhere. For services you can expect kissing, BBBJ, CFS, DATY. If you don't get any of these things then you may want to take a look at your hygiene. Not trying to offend anyone but multiple girls have complained to me about poor hygiene. Some girls may just be difficult though so I'm not saying it's always the guys fault. Anal is on the table but not for all girls. I personally am not an anal connoisseur. If you are looking for BBFS it's very difficult in Brazil. I would advise you to look elsewhere and not waste your time. I've had better luck in Tijuana. In fact almost every trip to Tijuana I've been able to get BBFS without much trouble. BBFS is possible in Brazil and I was able to secure it but only after quite a bit of effort and it was not worth the effort tbh. Again my standards are quite high so my experience is only with top tier providers who already make enough without needing to offer BBFS. If you are more tolerant you may be able to secure BBFS more easily.

Out of the 3 places I visited scandy has the best selection of girls BY FAR. It's almost guaranteed that you will find someone to your liking. Cafe foto has a smaller selection but is a much more relaxing atmosphere. Also much of the staff at cafe foto speaks English. If you like to walk around and scout out talent then scandy or casarao are better. Cafe foto you can do this also but for the most part I saw guests stay seated and the girls just kind of walk around hoping to attract someone's attention. It can be difficult to really see their faces from far away and it can be awkward to turn away a bunch of girls. You will likely get talked about also if you turn away a bunch of girls you call over. The result being that girls won't make it a point to come your way. Ah yes I forgot about casarao. It's more like a nightclub. I didn't like it tbh. It's not a very relaxing place. Loud music which makes it more difficult to hold a conversation. Best days to go anywhere are definitely T, W, Th. Other days are slower. Much of the Top tier talent goes on those days only. Many of the girls have told me they only work on those days. They have to pay a fine for working less than 5 days but the top tier girls make enough to where they don't care. Other lower tier girls have to work other days so those are who you will likely see on slower days. Now being a bit more tolerant can have its perks also. If a girl doesn't have a lot of business they will likely be more eager to please. Just something to keep in mind.

I hope this post is helpful for others. I spent a good number of weeks here so I like to think I had a good overview of things. I'm no veteran though and do not pretend to be one. These are just my observations, experiences, and personal advice based on my time in SP. Good luck you to everyone out there.

WaltoDerri

09-14-24, 03:33

Lalabo

09-14-24, 15:54

I visited scandy, casaroa, and cafe foto during my trip and noticed this at all three places. Nice report, Rxylirate. I have never been to Cafe Foto because of finger printing requirement. How was the talent prices there compared to Scandallo?

Glenn Swagmire

09-14-24, 15:57

RamDavidson84

09-14-24, 16:08

Rxylirate

09-14-24, 17:44

Nice report, Rxylirate. I have never been to Cafe Foto because of finger printing requirement. How was the talent prices there compared to Scandallo?For the quality of girls I usually pursue the prices are roughly the same. The selection is smaller as is the venue so I honestly see no reason to visit unless you are after a more relaxed atmosphere or you have grown tired of what's being offered at scandallo. If you are picky the chances of not finding someone to your liking is higher compared to scandy. For longer trips it's probably worth a visit just to change things up but if it's a short trip I would just stick with scandallo.

Bearsi

09-14-24, 20:15

Greetings,

Fairly new on the ISG side from USG. I'm heading to Brazil with a buddy in a few weeks and I was wondering what were some must things to see and do outside of the obvious tourist traps? Best neighborhoods? Best places to physically meet women? Is there a parque lleras equivalent? Best websites? Which neighborhoods to avoid? Best restaurants and bars? Etc. I'm sure the info is here but it is hard to navigate this site for me so I was hoping someone could PM me or share a link and I'll do the rest on my own. Hitting up both Rio & SP but posting here for SP tips. Thanks in advance fellas.Best neighborhood is Republica! Girls love coming here and if you mention it they will definitely be more eager to come and cum LOL.

Best places to meet is at ibirapuera park. Lots of little stands selling food and drinks and girls are kinda walking around during the day to look out for the fresh new guys. You can tell which ones they are because they are the ones wearing really revealing clothing pretending to "work-out".

Best website is def photoacomphantes. All the others are FAKE and scammers. You can tell they are because the girls charge like 500 to 1000 BRL! Too much and obvious scam site. On photoacompanhantes they go for like 100 to 300 brl which is much more realistic!

Neighborhoods to avoid are jardim paulista for all the snobby brazilian that will mock you for your broken proto and moema because that is where the planes fly over so it's LOUD as fuck and no girls really hang out there.

Best restaurants are the ones in the major brand hotels. They cook that good stuff and you know you won't have a gun pulled on you at anytime. Great peace of mind and prices are good. Bars you can find in rua augusta. Lots of locals and you can find the college girls here who just want to hook up. They play alot of american rap unlike other places if that matters. Or you can get one of those airbnb experiences and they can show you around in a bar crawl. My buddy did this and he hooked up with a girl like this.

Sao paulo is huge so you really can't go wrong just going to any of these places at anytime honestly.

Hope this helps! .

SamaRiding

09-14-24, 21:57

Hi guys,

I'm also going to be visiting Sao Paulo for the first time next month! Is there any reason why PhotoAcompa is never brought up here? Are the girls there generally reliable with accurate photos? Or is it just that Scandallo's selection is so good that it's not even worth messing with anything else? Appreciate the help!Guys want it too easy. Scandallo is heaven on earth. PA is in Portuguese and some guys can't bother. Definitely gems on it. Search the forum for photoacompanhantes. Lots of reports.

FRobertson

09-15-24, 23:23

Excellent report!

I was planning a Christmas / New Years Trip to Sao Paulo, but at $1500 BR for a 7-8 girl, what's the point? Looks like I'll be sticking to Panama, Colombia, and Mexico for a bit longer.

And to the guys why can bang a few girls at 1500 a pop a night, god bless you! To rich for my blood if I am flying 9 hours to a foreign nation.The fat cats can have their game at 1500 a pop, but at the CLínicas girls are 150-300 depending on the clinica, usually there are 5-15 girls to choose from, and they don't have that screw the gringo attitude that I have seen in the countries you mention. So that 1500 will go a long way.

FRobertson

09-15-24, 23:25

Guys want it too easy. Scandallo is heaven on earth. PA is in Portuguese and some guys can't bother. Definitely gems on it. Search the forum for photoacompanhantes. Lots of reports.In my experience in sp 20% are fakes, 40% are agencies with fake photos that don't represent the real girls, and maybe 10% are gems. If you have the time, get a local phone number, get whatsapp, and start contacting them through Google translate.

SoberHans69

09-16-24, 07:38

Excellent report!

I was planning a Christmas / New Years Trip to Sao Paulo, but at $1500 BR for a 7-8 girl, what's the point? Looks like I'll be sticking to Panama, Colombia, and Mexico for a bit longer.

And to the guys why can bang a few girls at 1500 a pop a night, god bless you! To rich for my blood if I am flying 9 hours to a foreign nation.I feel the same way as you, I couldn't justify the entrance price to these places let alone the money for the girl but I still had a great time in Sao Paulo and will return.

I just went to the clinicas during the day then Casarao at night. 57 Friends clinica turns into a hang out spot at night too but I never tried it.

I've been to Colombia a few times but won't return after visiting Brazil. I've heard that Panama and Mexico suck for mongering in comparison to these two countries too.

JZeleznik

09-16-24, 20:46

Another week down, another quick update.

I spent most of my nights at Casarao as usual, and again had very good luck asking for BBBJ and offering R300 for a half hour. I did however have two girls turn it down because they would not do BBBJ, and two others who said "maybe" which for me means no. I've also been asking about anal more, and gotten a lot of no's there. Fridays and Saturdays are noticeably busier than other nights, but without any improvement in the overall quality of girls present. Sundays can be pretty dead, but there are usually a few decent options around and I find a smaller crowd kills any attempts to haggle so it has its benefits. I also found out the VIP area at Casarao costs R1,200 with R1,000 being consumable. I'd be tempted to try that on a Thursday when the club gets packed and I can't find anywhere to stand, let alone sit.

I also made a stop in at Brooklin Club, as I had had some good luck there in the past. On a previous trip I found two decent looking girls who were great fucks at cheap prices, and one absolute stunner who was clearly brand new and probably quit after a week. Unfortunately, my Saturday stop did not yield anything promising. There were maybe ten girls there, only one who I even considered. I may stop in one more time on a Wednesday or Thursday to see if that's more promising, but I won't get my hopes up.

Additionally one day I went to Moema Prime to see Agnes. From her photos she looked to have an amazing body, and they were definitely accurate, though she was much shorter than I had thought. This was an interesting visit because its probably the only time a girl has given me shitty service while also having a good attitude. She seemed very friendly in the room while we were chatting, but didn't kiss, gave an incredibly mediocre blowjob, and then told me we couldn't do doggy because it hurt. I'm sympathetic to the last part, but if you're going to limit the positions I'd at least expect a solid BJ. Total was R330 for an hour, a lot higher than on my last trip. Half was R240 I believe.

RamDavidson84

09-16-24, 21:10

I feel the same way as you, I couldn't justify the entrance price to these places let alone the money for the girl but I still had a great time in Sao Paulo and will return.

I just went to the clinicas during the day then Casarao at night. 57 Friends clinica turns into a hang out spot at night too but I never tried it.

I've been to Colombia a few times but won't return after visiting Brazil. I've heard that Panama and Mexico suck for mongering in comparison to these two countries too.Panama is slightly more pricey than Colombia, about 150 $ a fuck for a solid 8/10. Panama only really has two guaranteed solid mongering club / bar locations. So it is only good for a long weekend. I would never stay more than 4 or 5 days. Panama is much safer and more luxurious than Colombia, which is why I prefer it over Colombia for weekend trips.

Mexico can be amazing for the right type of monger. The sleazy strip club movie scene we all think of when we imagine Mexico is very much a real thing and personally, I love that type of environment. Mexico is for the adventurous who want more than to drain their balls. It's also best for Spanish speakers and people who are looking for a multi city trip but want to remain in one country. Mexico is also more pricey than Colombia.

HM, maybe I will bite the bullet and try Sao Paulo, several people have said it is the ultimate mongering destination in terms of quality of girl. I just hate that pricing and I am a night owl / club type guy so the day time clinica's don't interest me as much. I also like to go through 2 or 3 women a night most weekends on my trips, so that can get really get pricey fast.

FRobertson

09-17-24, 01:37

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I also made a stop in at Brooklin Club, as I had had some good luck there in the past. On a previous trip I found two decent looking girls who were great fucks at cheap prices, and one absolute stunner who was clearly brand new and probably quit after a week. Unfortunately, my Saturday stop did not yield anything promising. There were maybe ten girls there, only one who I even considered. I may stop in one more time on a Wednesday or Thursday to see if that's more promising, but I won't get my hopes up.

.Nice report, thank you!

What's Brooklin Club?

SamaRiding

09-17-24, 02:19

São Paulo has 12 million people. The GP scene is huge and lots of variety. Unlike Tijuana, DR or Columbia, it caters to the locals first. Foreigners make up a very small part. Scandallo is rightfully hyped up, but that's the highest end of SP cost spectrum. Many cheaper boates (Bomboa, connection) and clubs / bar (Brooklin, Muchachos, stop). My definition, a boate has freelancers there you negotiate with the girl, club / bar has fixed prices. Then there's clinicas, high end and low end ones, and massage places. There probably hundreds of clinicas in SP. Lower down are the trash prives and streetwalkers, where you get a quick 15 minutes for r40 or $8. I like variety and only go to scandallo maybe 2 night during a week trip. Though I stop at the lower end clinicas which are r220 to r350 or $40-60 per hour which I consider the sweet spot.

Nounce

09-17-24, 14:52

and two others who said "maybe" which for me means no.Thank you for the update. Next time, try to tell them you are clean to see if that changes her mind.

Lalabo

09-17-24, 21:13

I've tried Mercure Sao Paulo Jardins, able to take guest to the room 24 h. Its 1 km from the AV Paulista, make sure that its a 2 occupancy room while booking.How was the hotel in general? Any road road noise issues? Are the windows soundproofed?

JZeleznik

09-18-24, 00:57

The sleazy strip club movie scene we all think of when we imagine Mexico is very much a real thing and personally, I love that type of environment. Mexico is for the adventurous who want more than to drain their balls...HM, maybe I will bite the bullet and try Sao Paulo, several people have said it is the ultimate mongering destination in terms of quality of girl. I just hate that pricing and I am a night owl / club type guy so the day time clinica's don't interest me as much. I also like to go through 2 or 3 women a night most weekends on my trips, so that can get really get pricey fast.You sound a bit like me in terms of what kind of experience you're looking for, and I'll say that while the clinicas can have some extremely attractive women, the service just isn't comparable to the clubs at night. I think you'd enjoy Casarao, and doing two or three sessions there won't break the bank. R300 for a half hour with the girl and R50 for the room comes out to about $64 with current exchange rates. Two of those plus my drinks is right around $150 US. It's also good because you can sample quite a few, and make plans to meet the ones you like outside of the club. I'd also say if you come to SP, you have to experience Scandallo at least once or twice. The cost is keeping me away lately, but its genuinely something to behold and the quality both in terms of looks and service is unparalleled.

At FRobertson: It's a little club that was recommended to me by someone on the forum a good while ago. Little neighborhood boate where locals relax with a handful of girls. Its drastically more casual, people singing, dancing, etc. At least on a good night.

At Nounce: I'm clean shaven and typically well dressed, and I've never gone there without showering immediately beforehand. I definitely don't think its a concern about hygiene. If you mean clean in terms of STDs, I suppose I could mention it but I'm not big on persuading. I'm really looking for enthusiasm, and I don't see how we get there from a maybe.

Knowledge

09-18-24, 02:30

Be warned New Year's week in Sao Paulo is slow, slow, SLOW. People from all walks of life head to Guaruja or other beaches and quite a few businesses are shut down. You will definitely want to add a week before and / or a week after to avoid missing out.

The fat cats can have their game at 1500 a pop, but at the CLnicas girls are 150-300 depending on the clinica, usually there are 5-15 girls to choose from, and they don't have that screw the gringo attitude that I have seen in the countries you mention. So that 1500 will go a long way.

SamaRiding

09-18-24, 07:34

The sleazy strip club movie scene we all think of when we imagine Mexico is very much a real thing and personally, I love that type of environment. https://stopprimeclub.com/

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Maybe try stop prime night club. I've never been, just found this place. It looks really far out but I mapped it 30 minutes drive south from moema. The photos of the club show strip poles at every table. Look like a strip club. I wanted to try it on my next visit. Probably all locals. Throwing this out here to see if someone is willing to try it and report back. Not even mentioned much in gpguia. This is the one recent report I could find.

At Stop you are entitled to 3 beers on the consumption tab, pay 1 or even 3 beers for the girl if she orders a drink.

The girl will order a drink if you talk to her a lot, the most experienced ones.

There are always 10/10 girls, the best day of the week is Thursday, the best time after 10 pm.

Last time I went to Stop 01/2023.

Very clean environment.

Free parking.

Entrance consumption 35.00.

Girl 30 minutes 140.00.

Oral without condom no fee.

Nounce

09-18-24, 14:10

I'm not big on persuading. I'm really looking for enthusiasm,It is STD. It is more about clarification. It is a piece of information that I think you did not have. My goal is sharing information for others in similar situation.

Sometimes enthusiasm require some persuasion to get some girls to do the job, This is a conversation I had with one regular. Physically she did everything but she was holding back her passion. She said she loves me. I said prove it. She said why do we have to talk about this? LOL.

The attached conversation is in Spanish. It started with she basically saying she truly wants me but it is your decision to make if you don't want to see me. I did not respond for a few days. She asked why didn't I respond. I said you already made the decision for me and something else useful in my context. She said something like forgive me love if I have been a bad person. Then she agreed with everything I said based on our relationship and what I have done for her. She brought a civilian friend over that night. I got 2 non-transactional passionate GFs that night. They are coming again tonight to play with the toys and me. Also, that night because it was past midnight and she has classes the next day. I told them they can leave after they stayed for about 2 and a half hours. Before she left, I reminded her this was only one pop just to make sure she knows this is not the norm. Unfortunately, often when the man is nice, girls will use it to their advantage because this is a business transaction after all.

Lalabo

09-19-24, 00:46

https://stopprimeclub.com/
I see tables with stripper poles in front of some couches. I wonder if the girls dance on them and patrons are supposed to tip them like in USA. If one is going to Casarao, which doesn't get going until after midnight, maybe worth checking this place even tough it is out of the way.

Balboa

09-20-24, 16:46

I see tables with stripper poles in front of some couches. I wonder if the girls dance on them and patrons are supposed to tip them like in USA. If one is going to Casarao, which doesn't get going until after midnight, maybe worth checking this place even tough it is out of the way.Hit Casarao last Thursday, and tho I was disappointed with the general quality that night, I did find one pretty hot morena.

Ended up going with her for an hour in the room.

Last night, Thursday as well, was a much better quality night. I was happily surprised.

Totally different than the previous week.

Ended up going back with the same morena as the previous week, and then later on with a very pretty magrinha, red headed, branca.

Had great times with both!
The morena is on her way over to my hotel right now actually. 😋

Great night!

WaltoDerri

09-20-24, 23:04

Steve 9696

09-21-24, 14:22

Lalabo

09-21-24, 14:57

Hey all. Did some searching but I couldn't find specific intel. Can anyone recommend specific hotels in Paulista, Jardim, or other decent neighborhoods nearby that would be visitor friendly? My buddy and I are hitting a wall finding a hotel that isn't 3 figures a night and is also visitor friendly since we are finding chicas who are refusing to come to AirBnbs or private apartments. Or do ALL hotels require guest ID, registration, and payment for them? Thanks in advance.I stayed in Mercure Sao Paulo Times Square, Moema a few weeks ago and it is very girl friendly (Don't know if they are for more than one girl). You get better rate booking through the hotel chain website at all.accor.com as a member. The price range currently is from $75 to $100 per night which is a very good value. Other girlfriendly hotel in Moema I know is Wyndham located right next to Ibirapuera mall. Like Steve9696 mentioned, I have also heard about Transamerica Executive Jardins and Transamerica Executive Paulista hotels in Jardim being girl friendly and they cost bit more like $100+ per night.

The Cane

09-21-24, 16:12

I stayed in Mercure Sao Paulo Times Square, Moema a few weeks ago and it is very girl friendly (Don't know if they are for more than one girl). You get better rate booking through the hotel chain website at all.accor.com as a member. The price range currently is from $75 to $100 per night which is a very good value. Other girlfriendly hotel in Moema I know is Wyndham located right next to Ibirapuera mall. Like Steve9696 mentioned, I have also heard about Transamerica Executive Jardins and Transamerica Executive Paulista hotels in Jardim being girl friendly and they cost bit more like $100+ per night.Mercure Sao Paulo Times Square has been my go-to in Sao Paulo. Think I'll try something different next time just to try to discover another good experience somewhere else.

Turgid

09-21-24, 23:50

.........The sleazy strip club movie scene we all think of when we imagine Mexico is very much a real thing and personally, I love that type of environment.......My earliest imaginings of what a brothel was like were those Mexican brothels I used go see in 1960's westerns. Those women were hot.

HiddenEye

09-23-24, 02:55

I did met brazilian exotic dancers, but they tend to do some kind of samba exotic dance which is fun but not so exciting to me.

I believe there are many many more in Buenos Aires. This is because of the "Cafe teatro" culture. Both argies. The brunette strips with hard rock music from the 80's.

My earliest imaginings of what a brothel was like were those Mexican brothels I used go see in 1960's westerns. Those women were hot.

Reeme

09-23-24, 10:42

Hey all. Did some searching but I couldn't find specific intel. Can anyone recommend specific hotels in Paulista, Jardim, or other decent neighborhoods nearby that would be visitor friendly? My buddy and I are hitting a wall finding a hotel that isn't 3 figures a night and is also visitor friendly since we are finding chicas who are refusing to come to AirBnbs or private apartments. Or do ALL hotels require guest ID, registration, and payment for them? Thanks in advance.I would always recommend to take girls to motels.

They are not expensive, not even the high-end ones (only go to these), and tons of fun.

I have had motel rooms with huge Jacuzzis and waterfall flowing into them, sex swings, steam rooms, beds with mirrors on all sides etc.

It's a big part of the culture here in Brazil as most people don't leave home until they are married, and course they are in high use for affairs.

Most importantly, though, they are safe. Scopolamine dragons are probably in Brazil and you don't even have to have a drink, just licking the stuff from their breasts is enough to put you out. And you don't have to put the walk of shame to reception.

If money is an issue, I would recommend to rather spend a little less on the hotel and get yourself a suite in the motel with the chicks. You won't regret it.

Reeme

09-23-24, 11:12

Planning to go to Scandallo for the first time this week. I prefer not to leave a data trail and wonder how others go about this in places like Scandallo.

To start with I take a regular taxi or if I take an Uber to a clinics, I take it to a nearby location and walk the last 100 m, provided the area is safe.

I usually bring cash, but for Scandy it would have to be quite a lot.

Are there other anonymous ways? Do anonymous prepaid credit cards exist in BR?

I'm aware that you need to show ID at the entrance but I would prefer to avoid any other data trails where possible.

JZeleznik

09-23-24, 16:10

we are finding chicas who are refusing to come to AirBnbs or private apartments. Or do ALL hotels require guest ID, registration, and payment for them? Thanks in advance.Registration is common even at AirBNBs, for security the desk often requires visitors to sign in. That said, and this is just my opinion, but if you're finding the girls before you're here you're doing it wrong. Meet a girl you like in a club, fuck her there once, and then arrange for her to come to your place if she's a good fit for something longer. Online you're running the risk of fake pictures, or an entirely fake woman. I've never had an issue with a club girl agreeing to come to my AirBNB.

@Reeeme: I pay the girls in Scandallo cash. The Santander ATMs have prompts in English and will let you pull out R2,000 at a time, and gives mostly 100's. For the door fee and the hotel I use cards, so I could see that being problematic for you as it's another R800 minimum (actually like 860 now I think). If I'm carrying a lot of cash I'll keep some in my wallet, and have a money clip in my other pocket with the rest. That keeps the wallet manageable, and I avoid drawing too much attention by not taking out the money clip in public. I would never be worried about safety when having lots of cash in Scandallo. The cabs even pick you up and drop you off in a covered area.

XXL

09-24-24, 03:14

...

To start with I take a regular taxi or if I take an Uber to a clinics, I take it to a nearby location and walk the last 100 m, provided the area is safe.
...

Are there other anonymous ways? Do anonymous prepaid credit cards exist in BR?

...Why would you walk the "last 100 m" rather than have the taxi drop you right outside the clinica? Anonymous prepaid card? I think you've been reading too many John Grisham novels.

Reeme

09-24-24, 10:30

Why would you walk the "last 100 m" rather than have the taxi drop you right outside the clinica? Anonymous prepaid card? I think you've been reading too many John Grisham novels.Of course I get a regular taxi to drop me off right at the place. But I prefer Ubers and I just don't want my Uber history to read the address of a boates or clinic as.

I should have added a comma for more clarity.

As for John Grisham, read the warnings in GP Guia and other forums.

Mongers whose identity is revealed are getting blackmailed regularly.

That's not my concern, though, all I want to avoid is records in my personal data. This includes my credit card statements where I don't want transactions from those places to show up.

Anonymous credit cards exist in my country and have been invented exactly for such reasons. All I wanted to know was if they also exist in Brazil or if somebody has other ways off being protective about their data. I completely understand that protection is not what everybody is looking for, as clearly displayed in this forum.

But some do, and if anyone has constructive things to add, I would appreciate that.

Axel Heyst

09-25-24, 01:17

Of course I get a regular taxi to drop me off right at the place. But I prefer Ubers and I just don't want my Uber history to read the address of a boates or clinic as. <snip>

Mongers whose identity is revealed are getting blackmailed regularly. <snip> I want to avoid records in my personal data. This includes my credit card statements where I don't want transactions from those places to show up. I think this is all a little bit paranoid, Reeme. Nobody cares who you are. Nobody is going to blackmail you for going to a boate or a clinica unless you are rich & famous and even then, the vast majority (99.99%) of uber drivers, girls, customers, and club staff will just treat you in a friendly Brazilian way and feel complimented that a famous individual such as yourself is visiting their establishment.

You married? The charges that will appear on your credit card are relatively bland. They don't say "hey Doris, this charge is from the notorious Scandallo bordello," your husband is a Casanova. KKK, For example, after a trip as I look over various charges on my CC statements, I sometimes have to think hard about what a particular charge is for and from what establishment it originated. But if you are worried about the wife getting suspicious, then USE CASH! Bring down a boat load of clean, crisp, new, US Dollars and exchange them for BR at Seattle Tourism FX, Oscar Freire, 146 be. Problem solved. Rock on!

Ottotot

09-25-24, 17:06

There is a new girl in Tangar. Her name is Bella, she is short, slim (I can almost see a six pack), but very soft skin. She was a ballet dancer and she can do full splits. And it really *is* as beautiful and fun as it sounds.

She also speaks English and German.

Overall very sweet and friendly girl. Highly recommend.Hey man, I actually met her two weeks ago when I visited Sao Paolo. So it was on Sunday morning when I tried to find another English speaking garota in Miruna but mamasan said she won't be coming that day. So, I went to Tanggara to check out some prospect. There were only 4 girls available and I picked her. As usual, I told her "nao Falla Portuguese" and "voce falla ingles". And then she started talk in English and told me her name was Bella. She told me that she just work there for less that two weeks. Her body is quite bangin but her face looks old. Despite of that, her performance is astounding since she was very flexible. But at the end, she was asking for tip. This is like the second times garota asking for tip in clinicas. So, I gave her 50 and she accept it even though her looks was expecting more. Oh, well, just move on to the next one then.

RamDavidson84

09-26-24, 03:06

I think this is all a little bit paranoid, Reeme. Nobody cares who you are. Nobody is going to blackmail you for going to a boate or a clinica unless you are rich & famous and even then, the vast majority (99.99%) of uber drivers, girls, customers, and club staff will just treat you in a friendly Brazilian way and feel complimented that a famous individual such as yourself is visiting their establishment.

You married? The charges that will appear on your credit card are relatively bland. They don't say "hey Doris, this charge is from the notorious Scandallo bordello," your husband is a Casanova. KKK, For example, after a trip as I look over various charges on my CC statements, I sometimes have to think hard about what a particular charge is for and from what establishment it originated. But if you are worried about the wife getting suspicious, then USE CASH! Bring down a boat load of clean, crisp, new, US Dollars and exchange them for BR at Seattle Tourism FX, Oscar Freire, 146 be. Problem solved. Rock on!Better safe than sorry. If you got something to lose, cross your T's and dot your I's.

That being said, I have never heard of someone being able to look at your uber history unless they have access to your account.

Rahsta

09-27-24, 01:01

Reeme

09-27-24, 02:59

Better safe than sorry. If you got something to lose, cross your T's and dot your I's.

That being said, I have never heard of someone being able to look at your uber history unless they have access to your account.That's the point. It's not about being paranoid, it's about not taking unnecessary risks if they can be easily avoided.

I use a burner SIM to text GPS and Clinicas.

Not because I'm worried about blackmail (I would just ignore that. Even though it must be scary if they know your name and address) but rather about getting a reply at an inconvenient time. I work in tech so I have my reasons that I don't want neither Uber nor my credit card company to know about certain 'Scandallous' things.

I'll do it just like Axel pointed out, thanks for that.

Bearsi

09-27-24, 04:39

Of course I get a regular taxi to drop me off right at the place. But I prefer Ubers and I just don't want my Uber history to read the address of a boates or clinic as.

I should have added a comma for more clarity.

As for John Grisham, read the warnings in GP Guia and other forums.

Mongers whose identity is revealed are getting blackmailed regularly.

That's not my concern, though, all I want to avoid is records in my personal data. This includes my credit card statements where I don't want transactions from those places to show up.

Anonymous credit cards exist in my country and have been invented exactly for such reasons. All I wanted to know was if they also exist in Brazil or if somebody has other ways off being protective about their data. I completely understand that protection is not what everybody is looking for, as clearly displayed in this forum.

But some do, and if anyone has constructive things to add, I would appreciate that.Dude if you're taking your phone with you to any places (which you definitely are going to do no matter what; get girls numbers, use google translate, etc) then someone can just see your GPS.

You are ALWAYS being tracked and monitored.

Your phone is always listening to what you say so it can target better ads to you.

Unless you take a no phone and only cash someone can track your GPS.
i get notifications from google asking me to review scandallo on google maps
they know
Plus the clubs all have cameras showing you showed up as well as your ID to get in that they store for some time.

you will have to always overpay for a taxi to pay in cash and then always pay cash to the girls and club
that's alot of atms runs or a big currency exchange that you will need to keep safe
no one cares who you are honestly

Turgid

09-27-24, 13:38

You are in the wrong hobby if you are this paranoid.I have been pursuing this hobby for over 50 years and I've never used a credit card nor shown ID at any clubs.

The Cane

09-27-24, 15:14

I have been pursuing this hobby for over 50 years and I've never used a credit card nor shown ID at any clubs.For me, mongering has definitely been a "cash and carry" endeavor haha!

ShooBree

09-27-24, 18:57

That's the point. It's not about being paranoid, it's about not taking unnecessary risks if they can be easily avoided.

I use a burner SIM to text GPS and Clinicas.

Not because I'm worried about blackmail (I would just ignore that. Even though it must be scary if they know your name and address) but rather about getting a reply at an inconvenient time. I work in tech so I have my reasons that I don't want neither Uber nor my credit card company to know about certain 'Scandallous' things.

I'll do it just like Axel pointed out, thanks for that.You do realize that you're leaving a trail by writing your questions on here?

And why take uber when you can take a taxi.

Anaggie

09-27-24, 20:06

If you are worried about "charges" on your CC CASH is the way to go. I prefer to use cash for all mongering activities including UBER and use my CC for high end restaurants.

RamDavidson84

09-27-24, 20:17

If you are worried about "charges" on your CC CASH is the way to go. I prefer to use cash for all mongering activities including UBER and use my CC for high end restaurants.True, cash is king in this game.

One time I was on an epic night of debauchery in Medellin and I burned through the cash I had on me and the atms were maxed out or not working. Had to end my night early because of it. Because of that, if I know I want spare cash for later, I will use a burner credit card in the clubs for drinks or whatever. The card has a 1000 USD limit so if I get scammed that's the max I can lose. I also bought a money belt to keep emergency cash in, but honestly I am too lazy to use it. I have packed it for travel a few times though.

If your trying to fly completely anonymous then burner credit card is not the way to go. Strong word of advice, don't ever run out of cash with a Latin escort that is expecting money. Will be the head ache of your life.

Reeme

09-27-24, 21:07

Dude if you're taking your phone with you to any places (which you definitely are going to do no matter what; get girls numbers, use google translate, etc) then someone can just see your GPS.

You are ALWAYS being tracked and monitored.

Your phone is always listening to what you say so it can target better ads to you.

Unless you take a no phone and only cash someone can track your GPS.
i get notifications from google asking me to review scandallo on google maps
they know
Plus the clubs all have cameras showing you showed up as well as your ID to get in that they store for some time.

you will have to always overpay for a taxi to pay in cash and then always pay cash to the girls and club
that's alot of atms runs or a big currency exchange that you will need to keep safe
no one cares who you are honestlyAgreed, (almost) nobody cares who I am.

And of course, there is always a data trail that you cannot avoid.

Like posting here. Or hardly avoid, like GPS data (However, you can turn the location services off 10 minutes before you get there. Which I don't).

But if there are easy and convenient ways to limit the amount of people or organizations who know, I am taking that path.

It's highly unlikely that my wife would ever look at my credit card statements, let alone ask me what I did or figure out the establishment behind the display name.

But why take the risk? Anonymous credit cards exist in many countries and are a simple way. You buy them at a gas station, you charge them with cash you have sitting around and that's it. Paying are $ 10 more for a cab or giving the Uber an address on the opposite side of the street is also easy.

And as stated before, in Brazil not taking girls, professional or not, back to the hotel and instead using a motel is a good practice (and a lot more fun).

But that's just me.

Axel Heyst

09-28-24, 14:56

I have been pursuing this hobby for over 50 years and I've never used a credit card nor shown ID at any clubs.Turgid, am I missing something? I have always had to show an ID of some form to gain entry into Scandallo, Bomboa, Cafe Photo (finger print), Bahamas, ect. Even the Ganguin Club required an ID from me. Maybe my open water PADI scuba diving ID would suffice. I never tried that one. KKK. My Florida state driver's license has always worked in the past and I don't mind using it to gain entrance. It is no big deal.

As to the issue of CC vs. Cash: it's up to the individual punter. Do what makes you happy. For a couple of decades of mongering, I was a cash guy and I brought a large amount of crisp hundred dollar bills on my 10 to 12 week trips to LOS, Cambodia, Jakarta, Makati, and Macau. Then around 2016 I discovered the Schwab no fee ATM debit card and hallelujah, happy days. I will never go back to the time I was carrying $10,000 in cash again.

So, I put all my hotel, restaurant, club incidentals (cover charges, drinks, and room fees), clinica charges, terma charges (RJ), uber (even some taxis), grocery stores, and pharmacy purchases on the CC, but I pay all my direct, personal, girly expenses in local currency derived from the Schwab debit card. It is a very convenient and safe way to travel as long as you know the right ATM's to draw down from.

To date I have never had a problem with my CC's or my Debit Cards, but I also never had a problem in the old days with bringing gobs of cash although carrying the amount of cash I used to have to bring with me on my Asian trips was a weight that I am now very happy not to be burdened with. I also have a backup no fee debit card issued from Needham Bank (check it out guys) and I bring around $1000 in cash just in case. As a result, I usually only carry a couple of hundred BR in my pocket during the day and I bring whatever I think I might need for my boate girls at night. If I go for a 2 fer (a 2nd girl) or I can't resist the charms of a certain Scandallo tier 1 girl, I can always put the balance of what I need for the girl on the CC, but only after we boom boom.

Turgid

09-28-24, 15:11

......And of course, there is always a data trail that you cannot avoid.

Like posting here........Like posting here? C'mon.

Tochka

09-28-24, 16:14

I stayed in an Airbnb in Moema. One late night leaving drunk as fuck from Scandallo to the Airbnb, the fvcking iphone and credit cards slipped out of my pockets into the backseat of the Uber black car. It took a couple of days to meet with the Uber driver to get the phone and stuff back.

For two days I walked to 8 different clinicas around Moema area and nearby hoods. Finally visited the Bahamas boate.

No choice, paid cash for everything using the backup stash of cash in Airbnb. Of course, asked for a cash discount on top of the forista rates. Haha,

No ID was needed, no iphone, no credit card, no Uber, everything was in leisure walking distance.

But it sucks not getting wassap numbers from Chicas. Also friendly F you to all the 2-factor authentication apps with only a phone option. After getting my phone & wallet back checked all the charges were fine first thing I did was add email as an option to those 2 FA. The second thing I listened to Alex H, Nounce Vagabundo advice and bought a goddamn leash for the iPhone. Bros that saved my drunk ass many times cause the phone is always on my neck. Walking around Centro, Copa beach building side, Av Paulista, Moema or Metro easy to tuck the phone inside the shirt while watching out for moto boys, ebikes or groups of over-friendly street gals.

Agree with the dudes here if ya worried about the data trail going to Brasil isn't getting off the grid. Hell I got to show some type of freaking document ID just to book short term love motels.

I have had hard enough time trying to remember the Clinica names on the credit charges when it shows up.

Trivia question which place is King Tavern, Matrix / Matrix Hqs, Novo espao Morumbi, W estdio, Amanda Silva Gama ?

Any others?

HiddenEye

09-28-24, 16:44

Never been blackmailed in Brazil from my mongering activities. Girls are mostly freelancers and clubs tend to take care of clients.

I did got blackmailed on the oposite side of the south american continent. Girls are paying a fee to work, night scene is managed by veni guys and things are getting spicy very rapidly. Streetwalkers are paying a daily fee between 15-30 USD.

I hope things won't change in Brazil, but you always have to keep the ears open for the latest news.

If I would like o go to Tijuana, maybe my search of information would be very detailed before placing a foot there.

Agreed, (almost) nobody cares who I am.

And of course, there is always a data trail that you cannot avoid.

Like posting here. Or hardly avoid, like GPS data (However, you can turn the location services off 10 minutes before you get there. Which I don't).

But if there are easy and convenient ways to limit the amount of people or organizations who know, I am taking that path.

It's highly unlikely that my wife would ever look at my credit card statements, let alone ask me what I did or figure out the establishment behind the display name.

But why take the risk? Anonymous credit cards exist in many countries and are a simple way. You buy them at a gas station, you charge them with cash you have sitting around and that's it. Paying are $ 10 more for a cab or giving the Uber an address on the opposite side of the street is also easy.

And as stated before, in Brazil not taking girls, professional or not, back to the hotel and instead using a motel is a good practice (and a lot more fun).

But that's just me.

Knowledge

09-28-24, 17:07

Have you every heard of someone's account credential getting compromised?

Better safe than sorry. If you got something to lose, cross your T's and dot your I's.

That being said, I have never heard of someone being able to look at your uber history unless they have access to your account.

Reeme

09-28-24, 17:37

Went to Scandy for the first time last night (Friday). Followed at AxelHeyst's guidance on interviewing a set of chicks first before making a choice.

Let's indeed a winning strategy. Most importantly, you got a good feeling for the energy before you make a decision.

Ended up choosing a 22 year old garota from the North called Leticia. Pretty face, great smile, slim and stacked, bubbly personality.

What I liked:

- Incredible amount of girls, at least 150 from 11 pm onwards, and high average quality in terms of looks.

- Huge diversity of looks, there's really something for everyone.

- I like the nightclub feel including very good live music and the fact that the girls were dressed like going out. It felt more like picking up a chick at a club. While you get a better idea of the body at German FKKs where girls are often topless, it feels more transactional.

- Most girls I spoke to had really cool personalities. As expected not the most educated bunch, even though all of them claimed to be students. For instance, none of them had an idea where Austria was when I told him I was from there. But they were good at their job of making their clients feel comfortable and having fun. Again a huge difference benchmarking against German FKKs, where most girls are hardened pros from Eastern Europe or the Balkans and tend to be rather cold.

The girl I had taken to the room even wanted to hang out some more and fool around after we were back at the club. Without asking for anything.

- very professional place, good staff, great club and clean rooms.

What I did not like:

- While there were a lot of hot girls in all colors and shapes, I found none to be breathtakingly beautiful. I had expected more fashion model / playboy type quality but the air was thin on that end of the spectrum.

- I had picked up one of only two garotas whose looks really wowed me. Her great personality and somewhat unique look made the difference, while the other chick never smiled when walking the club, did not even bother talking to her. Unfortunately, my choice had badly butchered fake tits with big scars. And way too hard on top. The rest of the body and face were great. Deteriorated the experience as I am a tits guy. Note to self to feel the garotas up more next time. Later I was approached by a fun and pretty Baiana called Bruna who had great naturals, might have been the better choice even though Leticia and I had good fun in the room.

- Overall I found it too expensive for what it is. Paid Leticia 1200 (first ask was 2 k, I countered with 1 k as per Axels reco). Helps to say that you only have 2 k in cash and do not want to use CC, as even the less intelligent girls get that 300 for the room and 500 entry limit your maximum to 1200. But spending 2 k, almost 400 USD, on a girl in Brazil that is not absolutely stunning, lingerie model type quality seems excessive. The winning strategy for me probably is to go early, pay 300 & eat there, and enjoy the club and fool around with a number of hot girls and get their numbers. Being a tall, blond Euro guy in the lower half of the age bracket usually helps to settle for much lower prices, plus they do not have to recover their entry fee.

- The cab driver said it was a rather slow night and Wed / Thu had a much broader and better lineup (as some folks mentioned here). Was not an option for me this time, but I will try to check it out another time. One thing he said that was a bit worrying is that lately, the super hot chicks started moving to Onlyfans or Dubai. This might explain their absence. I never got why guys pay for nude pics with abundant free porn available. OF and webcams certainly curtail babe supply. Did any of the veterans here make similar observations?

Overall, it feels like upscale Clinicas offer better value for money for similar quality, but are also more transactional and you lack the experience of hanging out and fooling around with a hot chick in a cool club for an hour before going at it. Getting a bunch of numbers for daytime dates on the weekend may be a good strategy but I haven't yet figured out the rate difference.

Nounce

09-28-24, 18:37

It took a couple of days to meet with the Uber driver to get the phone and stuff back.This is not the first time you lost your phone. I think you really should consider a cheap iphone burner because you are careless sometimes. There are organization that can hack your iPhone and drain your accounts so a burner will give you a peace of mind.

I have 3 iphones with 3 US numbers from 3 different carriers but it is mainly because I don't return to US.

Nounce

09-28-24, 18:51

Never been blackmailed in Brazil from my mongering activities.It happens more online with online but mostly were just threats.

Nounce

09-28-24, 19:00

Went to Scandy for the first time last night (Friday). Followed at AxelHeyst's guidance on interviewing a set of chicks first before making a choice.
I think the girls have adapted. Try starting with a fix price like 800 instead. That is the strategy RealShuan uses

RamDavidson84

09-29-24, 02:03

Have you every heard of someone's account credential getting compromised?By a hooker or cab driver, no. By a crazy ex GF or wife. Yes.

I did get my credit card scammed in Santo Domingo. USAA confirmed it was fraud and refunded bogus charge. Happened at the casino at the Jaragua, at least I think that's how they got it. I used that card at the Casino and the next day someone ran up a bill of several hundred dollars at a Walmart in like Alabama or something.

NiceFirst

09-29-24, 03:51

This place is wild, I thought I got my selection process locked down, but man I was humbled by these put at s. I'm still trying to figure out why a new garota who I already had 2 good sessions before suddenly showed up with a bad attitude and bad service on the 3rd session. I think she had learned that gringos are easy target to screw over and still gets paid in full, so she was trying it out on me. Well, I had to kick her out and I suggest all the new guys do the same too when the service is bad. Here are the steps:

1. Do not pay before. Always always pay after obviously.

2. Decide how much you're going to pay her based on the level of service received, I give R200 for 1 hour (I usually get 1 pop in before kicking them out), if they are so bad that you couldn't even get 1 pop, then pay nothing.

3. Put on your clothes while she's cleaning in the shower.

4. Give her the money and tell her the reason why you ended it early, tell her to dress up, get all her shit and leave.

5. This is the part where they either promise better services or just straight up argue or both, so just stay by the phone and call the reception to come up and kick her out. If you need to say something, just repeat why you ended the session early, I can't understand them once they start talking fast and cursing.

6. They usually threaten to call the police, tell them go ahead. The police here can't do anything about any of this, unless it's rape, but you got evidence on your whatsapp proving it's pay for play, so nothing to worry there. Even if the police arrives, just tell them exactly what you told her, that her service was bad and this and that. They know that you didn't fly all the way here, staying at this nice place just to scam a GP, it's obvious that you, a gringo, was taken advantage of. And R200 an hour is a reasonable amount for an ordinary brazillian. I never got the police called on me.

7. Watch her to make sure she doesn't break anything, steal anything, do anything crazy, have your phone ready to record just in case.

8. Once the security arrives, let them do their job. The girl has no choice but to leave.

Done. That's it. Congrats! The first time can be heart racing, but you'll get used to it after a few. But remember, all of this wouldn't work if you pay before. So ALWAYS ALWAYS pay after. Just walk if they don't agree, or call the reception if she's already in your room unwilling to leave, but this is only the case if you don't mention it before hand, sometimes they don't bring up the upfront payment until after the shower and cover themselves in the towel. I was guilty of this too, but you will learn not to forget to mention it beforehand after kicking them out once.

Note: even if she leaves willingly, still call the reception and tell them to make sure she actually leaves the building, sometimes they linger in the hallway with their phone.

DasBooty

09-29-24, 11:44

- Overall I found it too expensive for what it is. Paid Leticia 1200 (first ask was 2 k, I countered with 1 k as per Axels reco). Helps to say that you only have 2 k in cash and do not want to use CC, as even the less intelligent girls get that 300 for the room and 500 entry limit your maximum to 1200. But spending 2 k, almost 400 USD, on a girl in Brazil that is not absolutely stunning, lingerie model type quality seems excessive. The winning strategy for me probably is to go early, pay 300 & eat there, and enjoy the club and fool around with a number of hot girls and get their numbers. Being a tall, blond Euro guy in the lower half of the age bracket usually helps to settle for much lower prices, plus they do not have to recover their entry fee.The key to successfully negotiating price is to be willing to walk away, which is easy when you don't find the girls to be stunning / to your taste. I paid 800/900 mid August. The girls at Scandallo can be found in Europe, but like you said, they're friendlier than the average FKK girl.

Reeme

09-29-24, 13:42

The key to successfully negotiating price is to be willing to walk away, which is easy when you don't find the girls to be stunning / to your taste. I paid 800/900 mid August. The girls at Scandallo can be found in Europe, but like you said, they're friendlier than the average FKK girl.TBH, when you don't find a girl that you find absolutely stunning, IMO you should not even buy.

But it's hard if she managed to hear you up well.

I try to not even engage in a conversation with a girl that is not what I am looking for.

With each drink my resistance to the charm of a good but not great option decreases.

It's hard to walk away from a place of abundance like Scandy but I have done so before, eg at Centaurus.

Given the Scandy price tag, the garota should be exceptional.

Turgid

09-29-24, 14:08

Vagabundo1

09-29-24, 17:00

Burner phones too are the way to not leave a data trail if you are really motivated.

I am sure we can write a treatise on this subject with the experts on this board. Something to put in the bubba boy guide update.

This is not the first time you lost your phone. I think you really should consider a cheap iphone burner because you are careless sometimes. There are organization that can hack your iPhone and drain your accounts so a burner will give you a peace of mind.

I have 3 iphones with 3 US numbers from 3 different carriers but it is mainly because I don't return to US.

Combo

09-29-24, 18:36

The key to successfully negotiating price is to be willing to walk away, which is easy when you don't find the girls to be stunning / to your taste. I paid 800/900 mid August. The girls at Scandallo can be found in Europe, but like you said, they're friendlier than the average FKK girl.This is something every experienced hobbyist learns over time. I can see a new guy not getting this and being intimidated to try it, but one shouldn't be.

With the quality and quantity at Scandallo, tell her what you're willing to pay, and if she declines, go to the next one.

Reeme

09-29-24, 19:04

The cost at FKK seems to be about equal to Scandallo so, with better service, Scandallo appears to be the better option.Not quite true. Artemis, arguably Germany's top FKK, is 90 to get in and 1 h will set you back 150.

Even better, you can choose to do 30 min for about 80, which is not an option at Scandy.

So you can have fun for under 200 USD, compared to 350 USD at Scandy (a bit less if you come very early).

Scandy has a lot more choice and girls are a lot friendlier on average.

Artemis had substantially more stunners. Really pretty, fashion model type Eastern European chicks.

Granted, I only went to both places once so Artemis might have been particularly good and Scandy rather slow (as per the cab driver).

Both are great places. At both places, it makes sense to spend time scoping the scene before making a decision.

In the FKKs, it might be harder to find fun chicks that provide something akin to GFE while that is easy in Brazil.

Combo

09-30-24, 04:35

Not quite true. Artemis, arguably Germany's top FKK, is 90 to get in and 1 h will set you back 150.

Even better, you can choose to do 30 min for about 80, which is not an option at Scandy.

So you can have fun for under 200 USD, compared to 350 USD at Scandy (a bit less if you come very early).

Scandy has a lot more choice and girls are a lot friendlier on average.

Artemis had substantially more stunners. Really pretty, fashion model type Eastern European chicks.

Granted, I only went to both places once so Artemis might have been particularly good and Scandy rather slow (as per the cab driver).

Both are great places. At both places, it makes sense to spend time scoping the scene before making a decision.

In the FKKs, it might be harder to find fun chicks that provide something akin to GFE while that is easy in Brazil.One huge advantage of the FKKs over any other venue world wide is the total nudity (at least the ones I've been to, which doesn't include Artemis). Just a mind-blowing thing seeing 50-100 hot-looking women walking around completely nude (other than high heels).

YankeeFan

09-30-24, 04:37

Does anyone know if Building 134 (Edifício Itatiaia) is really closed? I was a great place for a cheap session when I was last in Sao Paulo, but looking it up on Google Maps, it says permanently closed (I am surprised google maps would collect information about such an establishment). I am familiar with building 69, but if Building 134 is really closed, does anyone know if they relocated, or if there is something similar in Sao Paulo. A lot of garotes hung out in 134, I would think they would find another similar place. Thanks for any information you can provide.

Reeme

09-30-24, 10:54

One huge advantage of the FKKs over any other venue world wide is the total nudity (at least the ones I've been to, which doesn't include Artemis). Just a mind-blowing thing seeing 50-100 hot-looking women walking around completely nude (other than high heels).Agreed. Artemis is also topless. Main advantage to me is that you can make sure to avoid the butchered boobs I had to uncover at Scandy.

Tochka

09-30-24, 14:57

Burner phones too are the way to not leave a data trail if you are really motivated.

I am sure we can write a treatise on this subject with the experts on this board. Something to put in the bubba boy guide update.I have had hard enough time trying to remember the Clinica names on the credit charges when it shows up.

This is how the boates, clinicas and centro massage joints show up on my credit card King Tavern, Matrix / Matrix Hqs, Novo espao Morumbi.

Serv Center, mnc cosmticos, Estdio servio. infoshopping

W estdio, Amanda Silva Gama. Well that is how different spots talked about here show up on my card figuring out which place is half the fun. NOT kkkk.

Evan1

09-30-24, 16:24

Hey guys. I'm about to go to Brazil. My doctor advised me to pay attention to dengue fever. I've heard that the outbreak in Brazil is very serious. Does anyone know about the situation?

DrPistol

09-30-24, 20:00

Any regular massage places with cute girls where it's debatable whether there will be extras? Essentially an establishment which is posing as legit but I might get a happy ending?

I found a few of these in medellin and cartagena and I seem to enjoy them more than the FS places. Masseuses are trained and give full massage, but they might be giving out tugs on the downlow.

Steve 9696

09-30-24, 20:38

Agreed. Artemis is also topless. Main advantage to me is that you can make sure to avoid the butchered boobs I had to uncover at Scandy.I am a little surprised by your take on Scandallo. I have never met anyone who has been to both FKK AND Scandallo and not preferred Scandallo. I don't know if you hit an off night or are just not a Latina fan because there are smoking hot ladies there. I have never seen an FKK girl above an 8. 5 to my taste. But to each his own.

I look at FKK vs Scandallo like brunettes vs blonds. Sure you may prefer one of the other but both are awesome!

To be fair tho they are quite different experiences. Pure men's club relaxation with sauna buffet and sex. Well you can't get that at Scandallo. Super luxe nightclub atmosphere for high rollers well you can't get that at any FKK in the world. Every man should do both.

That said I will note the VERY different attitude.

What's your name where you from we go room now? Vs an half hour of hanging out and kissing and dancing?

Oh. You want to kiss? That is extra. (Non passionate kissing to follow)? Vs Brazilians best kissers in the world and consider it part of sex.

I don't know anyone who says that this part of the experience is better in FKK. But I guess main point remains — don’t pick. Do both!

HiddenEye

09-30-24, 23:05

November because of different auto / racing events, hundreds of girls come to SP to work at events, and of course you can always talk.

Only the ones who do after hours and don't have good contacts, can fall into night clubs.

Combo

10-01-24, 01:38

The Cane

10-01-24, 02:17

Scandallo is the best place in the world, but a top FKK might be second. Both are absolute must sees.This is exactly how I see it.

Reeme

10-01-24, 05:53

I am a little surprised by your take on Scandallo. I have never met anyone who has been to both FKK AND Scandallo and not preferred Scandallo. I don't know if you hit an off night or are just not a Latina fan because there are smoking hot ladies there. I have never seen an FKK girl above an 8. 5 to my taste. But to each his own.

I look at FKK vs Scandallo like brunettes vs blonds. Sure you may prefer one of the other but both are awesome!

To be fair tho they are quite different experiences. Pure men's club relaxation with sauna buffet and sex. Well you can't get that at Scandallo. Super luxe nightclub atmosphere for high rollers well you can't get that at any FKK in the world. Every man should do both.

That said I will note the VERY different attitude.

What's your name where you from we go room now? Vs an half hour of hanging out and kissing and dancing?

Oh. You want to kiss? That is extra. (Non passionate kissing to follow)? Vs Brazilians best kissers in the world and consider it part of sex.

I don't know anyone who says that this part of the experience is better in FKK. But I guess main point remains dont pick. Do both!I agree, they are very different and both are experiences in their own right.

I would not say that I prefer FKK. Exactly for the reason you mentioned. Brazilian passion and fun.

Artemis was great the one single time I went in terms of beauty.

There were several fashion model / playmate level chicks there.

Still, I ended up choosing a slightly less breathtaking and for my taste overtattooed (but still very hot) Turkish-German as she was all fun and game, very different from the primarily "Rombulga" (Romanian / Bulgarian) ice princess crowd.

Of course, an absolutely flawless stunner appeared the moment I had to leave.

At my one night in Scandy, the sheer quantity of girls was outrageous, and their fun attitude outstanding.

Still, there were few that I found really pretty and hot at the same time.

That is the combination I'm looking for and that warrants payment.

If you speak the language, are reasonably ok looking and know the game works, you can always get hot for free with a bit of effort and it'll feel more like a true conquest.

I simply thought there would be more of the "OMG" category.

To me, if I pay, I want (near) perfect.

Hard to get at FKK as GFE is missing.

And hard to get at Scandy that night as few girls managed to wow me.

Two did, one never smiled so she was out. The one I chose was great minus the scarred tits.

Based on the reports I had heard and read, I had just expected more mindblowing beauty.

But maybe the cab driver was right and most in this category are either on OF or in the Middle East or other, better paying parts of the world.

Still, I would repeat both. I'll report when I do.

Axel Heyst

10-01-24, 12:22

Scandallo is the best place in the world, but a top FKK might be second. Both are absolute must sees.Comparing Scandallo to a top notch FKK or many other 1st class bordello type clubs is really like comparing mangos to mangosteens. They are very different venues and very different fruits respectively. But if you guys want to talk about the finest bordellos in the world based on selection quality of girls or service then I want to add Familia Nobre in Macau and Malio Club in Jakarta to the list.

But one of the unique features that I like best about Scandallo and that, IMHO, elevates it above Familia Nobre, and Malio Club is that Scandallo girls are FL's and can leave the club (for a relatively small exit fee) any time they want with whomever they want. I love that feature. Now FN may have a half dozen hotter girls in their 100 girl line up especially if you are into Chinese and Korean super model types, but you can't take the girl out of the club! (Although once in a while I have had the good luck to arrange to meet a girl on the outside after the Sauna closed.) 555. And at Malio Club public sexual foreplay can get a lot hotter inside the club than at Scandallo and most of the Malio dancers bareback without asking for it for no additional fee which is a huge plus if you are like me and into bareback. There are also several 5 star hotel FL pick up bars with fabulous looking girls like Spasso at the Singapore Hyatt, but these places are much smaller and have far fewer girls to choose from than Scandallo.

So, in the broader scope of things, there are some great 5-star bordellos found around the world that can match or beat Scandallo on a specific variable like girl quality (ethnic origin) or sexual service (barebacking). But when I think about places with setups somewhat similar to Scandallo where customers can take their girl or girls out of the club any time they want; no other bordello can truly match Scandallo.

Hobbying

10-01-24, 14:46

Scandallo is the best place in the world, but a top FKK might be second. Both are absolute must sees.Have not posted in while but still in action. The price of girls in SP are all over the place so it comes down to how you make the girl feel and negotiate. If you treat her like a GFE you will get that in return most of the time.

One month I paid 4 k a day for 21 5'9 that could be a model similar look to the porn star Ria Sunn blonde natural blue eyes and everyone turns to look when she walks by out in public, definitely arm candy. 4 k is steep and the most I have ever paid per day but she good with BBFS which she hasn't done in 2 years and the took the pill after our time together even though I never creampie. The price was super high but no regrets.

Another month, a girl that looks like the porn star Stephanie Love charged me 3 k a day let me BBFS creampie in her ass.

Another month, a girl that looks like the porn star Angelica Heart new to the biz, 1 k per day let me video while she cims.

Another month, a girl that looks like a model charged me 2 k per night, did everything I wanted.

Point is prices are all over the place 1-4 k a day depending how you know to negotiate and if she feels like she getting the GFE and you will also!

The Cane

10-01-24, 18:20

Have not posted in while but still in action. The price of girls in SP are all over the place so it comes down to how you make the girl feel and negotiate. If you treat her like a GFE you will get that in return most of the time.

One month I paid 4 k a day for 21 5'9 that could be a model similar look to the porn star Ria Sunn blonde natural blue eyes and everyone turns to look when she walks by out in public, definitely arm candy. 4 k is steep and the most I have ever paid per day but she good with BBFS which she hasn't done in 2 years and the took the pill after our time together even though I never creampie. The price was super high but no regrets.

Another month, a girl that looks like the porn star Stephanie Love charged me 3 k a day let me BBFS creampie in her ass.

Another month, a girl that looks like the porn star Angelica Heart new to the biz, 1 k per day let me video while she cims.

Another month, a girl that looks like a model charged me 2 k per night, did everything I wanted.

Point is prices are all over the place 1-4 k a day depending how you know to negotiate and if she feels like she getting the GFE and you will also!Hobbying, where are you meeting the talent if you don't mind saying?

Nounce

10-01-24, 19:31

Spasso at the Singapore HyattIs there one in Singapore or did you make a mistake by accident?

Axel Heyst

10-01-24, 20:47

Is there one in Singapore or did you make a mistake by accident?Sorry, I meant Brix bar at the Hyatt Singapore, a top world class FL pick up bar. Spasso is located in the basement of the BKK Hyatt, DUH! I have been to both bars many, many times. I guess my brain is going downhill.

Anyway, Brix in Singapore is one of my favorite bars in the world and Spasso not so much. They both have a similar formats, layout and feature live music, but the quality of Brix girls is far better than the quality found at Spasso. For example, the most beautiful Filipina girl I ever met was in Brix one night and I spent a lot of time fooling around in Makati Go Go's with some very sexy girls, so I am very familiar with Filipina looks, but this Brix girl was a stunner.

So, Brix girls are international, and I have had the pleasure of hooking up with smokin' hot Vietnamese, Chinese, Filipina girls and even a Portuguese and an African girl in Brix. Spasso, on the other hand is 90% to 95% Thai girls and the average age of these Spasso FL's is 30 something. In fact, one night I met a charming 42 year old. She was a sophisticated looking Thai girl and she somehow convinced me to take her back to my hotel room (she was not cheap) where she stayed most of the night and showed me a good time (multiple shags). She had the softest skin. So, I would characterize Spasso girls as refined, well-coiffed, above average educated, and many speak English, but you know how it is, when I am in BKK I prefer the Go Go's most of the time. Young is young. KKK. But when I am in Singapore, I make it a point to check out Brix almost every night. I like to hit the Geylang Casas in the afternoon and Brix at night. Ipanema is another very popular FL pick up bar far larger than Brix, and many punters prefer Ipanema, but I always felt the quality was far better at Brix.

Anyway, sorry for my mistake. Thanks for pointing it out.

Balboa

10-01-24, 22:21

Does anyone know if Building 134 (Edifcio Itatiaia) is really closed? I was a great place for a cheap session when I was last in Sao Paulo, but looking it up on Google Maps, it says permanently closed (I am surprised google maps would collect information about such an establishment). I am familiar with building 69, but if Building 134 is really closed, does anyone know if they relocated, or if there is something similar in Sao Paulo. A lot of garotes hung out in 134, I would think they would find another similar place. Thanks for any information you can provide.Yep, unfortunately closed by the government.

Girls tell me the people that ran it are looking to open a new spot, but no info on the possible new local yet.

Gigi Buffon

10-02-24, 00:45

Is there one in Singapore or did you make a mistake by accident?The bar located in the Hyatt in Singapore was Brix, near Orchard Road. While Spasso was located in the Hyatt in Bangkok, near Chit Lom BTS.

Nounce

10-02-24, 12:34

Sorry, I meant Brix bar at the Hyatt Singapore, a top world class FL pick up bar. Spasso is located in the basement of the BKK Hyatt, .Thanks, that makes sense.

NiceFirst

10-03-24, 03:38

Based on the reports I had heard and read, I had just expected more mindblowing beauty.

Those reports that agree with your findings don't make it to the reports of distinction. Mine was in there for a short time, but was removed later.

Lalabo

10-03-24, 03:46

Went to Scandy for the first time last night (Friday). Nice report, Reeme. I appreciate sharing your experience. I mostly agree with you about the quality of the girls, prices and service levels.

- I had picked up one of only two garotas whose looks really wowed me. Her great personality and somewhat unique look made the difference, while the other chick never smiled when walking the club, did not even bother talking to her. Unfortunately, my choice had badly butchered fake tits with big scars. And way too hard on top. The rest of the body and face were great. Deteriorated the experience as I am a tits guy. Note to self to feel the garotas up more next time. Later I was approached by a fun and pretty Baiana called Bruna who had great naturals, might have been the better choice even though Leticia and I had good fun in the room.
Ouch! It is unfortunate you had to run into Leticia. There is no way to know what is hiding underneath the dress in these places. This is where German / European FK / Sauna clubs (I will refer to them as FKK from now on) have the advantage of you being able to see their body before interacting with them. It is a luck of the draw in fully cloths environments. Even Brad Pitt like guys wouldn't be able to see what underneath the dress. I met a very beautiful girl in Casarao more than a year ago. I don't like silicone, but she had good size tits, so I asked her if they were real, she said they are and asked me to fee them. I did and they felt real. I went to room for an hour for 400 reals. In the room, she insisted full payment, but I paid only half. She took her cloth off to reveal huge scars from her boob surgeries she had getting sillies and removing them. When I went for DATY it smelled like sewer down there. I decided to cut my loss and paid her the rest and go out. Unlike you the damage for me was just 400 reals, so not a big deal. You should have infomed the management so hopefully she wouldn't be allowed in the club. There is not fucking way anyone could see and smell what's hiding underneath womans body. No fucking interview lets you know what her pussy smells like. Are you going to ask the next girl if you can see her tits and smell her crotch in boetes? There is a limit the what you can ask and see during interview process. You rarely encounter these issues in FKKs because most of the girls are naked for you to see their body and I rarely met a girl with suspect hygiene down there during last 13+ year.

- Overall I found it too expensive for what it is. Paid Leticia 1200 (first ask was 2 k, I countered with 1 k as per Axels reco). Helps to say that you only have 2 k in cash and do not want to use CC, as even the less intelligent girls get that 300 for the room and 500 entry limit your maximum to 1200. But spending 2 k, almost 400 USD, on a girl in Brazil that is not absolutely stunning, lingerie model type quality seems excessive. The winning strategy for me probably is to go early, pay 300 & eat there, and enjoy the club and fool around with a number of hot girls and get their numbers. Being a tall, blond Euro guy in the lower half of the age bracket usually helps to settle for much lower prices, plus they do not have to recover their entry fee.
I agree Scandallo prices very high and are getting out of control. I still think there is a 2-tier pricing structure for locals and tourists, but I am keeping an open mind to see if that isn't the case.

- The cab driver said it was a rather slow night and Wed / Thu had a much broader and better lineup (as some folks mentioned here). Was not an option for me this time, but I will try to check it out another time. One thing he said that was a bit worrying is that lately, the super hot chicks started moving to Onlyfans or Dubai. This might explain their absence. I never got why guys pay for nude pics with abundant free porn available. OF and webcams certainly curtail babe supply. Did any of the veterans here make similar observations?
I saw lots of gorgeous girls when I visited pre-pandemic in 2019. I haven't seen such quality lineup in the Scancallo for the last 4 years, so I have to believe the Cab driver's theory for decline in quality.

Turgid

10-03-24, 14:55

Comparing Scandallo to a top notch FKK or many other 1st class bordello type clubs is really like comparing mangos to mangosteens. They are very different venues and very different fruits respectively. But if you guys want to talk about the finest bordellos in the world based on selection quality of girls or service then I want to add Familia Nobre in Macau and Malio Club in Jakarta to the list......I've never been to Scandallo but if I had to choose between the best FKK and Malio club I would have no hesitation in choosing Malio. The best club I've been to ever. The quality, quantity and variety is amazing. You can meet women from around the world there.

Axel Heyst

10-03-24, 15:42

I've never been to Scandallo but if I had to choose between the best FKK and Malio club I would have no hesitation in choosing Malio. The best club I've been to ever. The quality, quantity and variety is amazing. You can meet women from around the world there.Yep, Malio is great. But you got to check out Scandallo if you have never been. It's great too and like I said, Scandallo girls are all FL's ie independent contractors so you can take them home with you if you want plus you can cut out the middleman on subsequent rendezvous. And I think I mentioned that Scandallo girls are Brazilian and pretty hot. KKK!

JZeleznik

10-04-24, 01:22

Based on the reports I had heard and read, I had just expected more mindblowing beauty.

But maybe the cab driver was right and most in this category are either on OF or in the Middle East or other, better paying parts of the world.

Still, I would repeat both. I'll report when I do.IMO that is a contributing factor, but not the actual reason. Lots of girls tour, but its a temporary thing for most of them. They'll hit up Dubai, London, and maybe somewhere in Asia, but they use it more as a working vacation. Plenty of girls do OF and the Brazilian equivalent Privacy, but the vast majority do it in addition to working at the clubs. It supplements their income and allows them to work less, but most don't earn enough to replace it.

The real issue as far as I can tell is two things. First, Scandallo has a very demanding schedule, and a lot of the girls just can't keep up with it. If they miss a day they owe a fine, and once that happens they run the risk of going in and losing money. The absolute knockouts didn't really care before, they'd work when they want and just consider the fine the cost of doing business, but that brings me to the second problem. I don't know how long it has been going on for, but it seems like there is a lot less money out there lately in Sao Paulo.

Last year when I was here I'd have to wait in lines. Short ones at Scandallo, and long ones at Casarao. That is not happening to me anymore, and while I see lots of guys out drinking and talking, it does not seem like many of them are taking girls to a room. If the girls can't guarantee a payday, they stop showing up at all.

Glenn Swagmire

10-04-24, 18:46

So I'll be touching down in Sao Paulo in just a few days, is Scandallo really that much better than Casarao?

Also where am I most likely to find a girl who looks like Brazilian Hatsune Miku?

RamDavidson84

10-05-24, 06:09

Thinking of doing an end of year trip to Buenos Aires. Anyone have any experience there? How does it compare to a city like Sao Paulo? Medellin? My big reasons for choosing BA over SP is I speak broken Spanish to a degree so I can communicate for all the things I need. I speak no Portuguese at all. It doesn't seem like BA will be significantly more expensive and I don't want to be in a monger destination like SP. I want to trail blaze for a change. I am also gambling that with the recent inflation in Argentina and lack of sex tourists, I may have found a city which is on the rise for our hobby, am I wrong with this gamble? The BA thread is basically dead, so I am posting this here. Flight prices are very high for the end of the year. I am figuring a round trip out of Northeast USA at a decent time of day is going to run me close to 2 k. It looks like my best bet is to get to Miami or Orlando the night before and then fly out of there in the morning to BA or maybe SP if you guys think a BA is a waste of time. My biggest concern is the girls are not going to give the unrivaled service of Brazil, so Like I said if anyone has any experience and can share their 2 cents, I would appreciate it and I ll be sure to report the data from my findings upon my return.

I just watched Assassination Tango and it peaked my interest.

Nounce

10-05-24, 13:44

Based on the reports I had heard and read, I had just expected more mindblowing beautyThis is true even a few years ago. I always said keep your expectation low. It's YMMV and there are more factors than the girl quality involved. Your observation is not wrong.

I have two girls showed my their breast in front of the coach next to the elevator. One pulled up her skirt to show me her bunda. You can pretty much do anything except having sex naked before going to the room.

WyattEarp

10-05-24, 16:07

IMO that is a contributing factor, but not the actual reason. Lots of girls tour, but its a temporary thing for most of them. They'll hit up Dubai, London, and maybe somewhere in Asia, but they use it more as a working vacation. Plenty of girls do OF and the Brazilian equivalent Privacy, but the vast majority do it in addition to working at the clubs. It supplements their income and allows them to work less, but most don't earn enough to replace it.

The real issue as far as I can tell is two things. First, Scandallo has a very demanding schedule, and a lot of the girls just can't keep up with it. If they miss a day they owe a fine, and once that happens they run the risk of going in and losing money. The absolute knockouts didn't really care before, they'd work when they want and just consider the fine the cost of doing business, but that brings me to the second problem. I don't know how long it has been going on for, but it seems like there is a lot less money out there lately in Sao Paulo.

Last year when I was here I'd have to wait in lines. Short ones at Scandallo, and long ones at Casarao. That is not happening to me anymore, and while I see lots of guys out drinking and talking, it does not seem like many of them are taking girls to a room. If the girls can't guarantee a payday, they stop showing up at all.Do you think the top girls are escorting? This has been a successful path for many mongers here, but it requires a lot of research, translation and patience. It's not at all as simple as thumbing through webpages and pointing your finger at hot photos. Of course, some have tried this method with mixed results.

Now we don't know exactly how many top girls that might drop in at Scandallo actually have regular local clients they see but will never advertise on-line. Obviously, there are a lot. And we would never find them unless we were lucky to be at Scandallo when they dropped in.

Logically if the economy sucks, the girls have to be out there somewhere. This is where venues like the old Help Disco that catered mostly to foreigners were a match made in heaven for mongers and Brazilian girls looking for steady income during local economic slowdowns.

Knowledge

10-06-24, 01:12

You will likely get a more robust response to these questions in the Buenos Aires forum.

Thinking of doing an end of year trip to Buenos Aires. Anyone have any experience there? How does it compare to a city like Sao Paulo? Medellin? My big reasons for choosing BA over SP is I speak broken Spanish to a degree so I can communicate for all the things I need. I speak no Portuguese at all. It doesn't seem like BA will be significantly more expensive and I don't want to be in a monger destination like SP. I want to trail blaze for a change. I am also gambling that with the recent inflation in Argentina and lack of sex tourists, I may have found a city which is on the rise for our hobby, am I wrong with this gamble? The BA thread is basically dead, so I am posting this here. Flight prices are very high for the end of the year. I am figuring a round trip out of Northeast USA at a decent time of day is going to run me close to 2 k. It looks like my best bet is to get to Miami or Orlando the night before and then fly out of there in the morning to BA or maybe SP if you guys think a BA is a waste of time. My biggest concern is the girls are not going to give the unrivaled service of Brazil, so Like I said if anyone has any experience and can share their 2 cents, I would appreciate it and I ll be sure to report the data from my findings upon my return.

I just watched Assassination Tango and it peaked my interest.

HiddenEye

10-06-24, 04:01

My personal experience is based on 2019 before pandemics, but I know from friends they are still valid. The same friend who recorded this night driving tour in downton BA I have on Youtube. I can share the URL with those interested.

Buenos Aires is a city free of night clubs with working girls. The latest ones in Recoleta are already closed. There are of course bars where you can meet civilians in Palermo area and Puerto Madero.

I haven't experienced tango scene because my friends said "that's a gringo thing" so I can't tell if you can find talent in there. Like Mr. Duvall in Assasanation Tango.

What I do know is argies are flooding OnlyFans and other content sites. There are telegram groups where this talent post material, and yes, some of them, after purchasing their content, very expensive content will finally agree for a meeting.

For example, the girl attached in mosaic sells videos starting at US $30. She's a hot brunette and does meet her VIP fans. She goes with a male friend to the first meeting to check and that doesn't assure you'll take her to a motel. So their online material is some kind of a expensive filter. Yes, it takes looooong time to validate one of these.

The ones who are really making profit are these girls. There are true beauties making crazy custom videos.

Thinking of doing an end of year trip to Buenos Aires. Anyone have any experience there? How does it compare to a city like Sao Paulo? Medellin? My big reasons for choosing BA over SP is I speak broken Spanish to a degree so I can communicate for all the things I need. I speak no Portuguese at all. It doesn't seem like BA will be significantly more expensive and I don't want to be in a monger destination like SP. I want to trail blaze for a change. I am also gambling that with the recent inflation in Argentina and lack of sex tourists, I may have found a city which is on the rise for our hobby, am I wrong with this gamble? The BA thread is basically dead, so I am posting this here. Flight prices are very high for the end of the year. I am figuring a round trip out of Northeast USA at a decent time of day is going to run me close to 2 k. It looks like my best bet is to get to Miami or Orlando the night before and then fly out of there in the morning to BA or maybe SP if you guys think a BA is a waste of time. My biggest concern is the girls are not going to give the unrivaled service of Brazil, so Like I said if anyone has any experience and can share their 2 cents, I would appreciate it and I ll be sure to report the data from my findings upon my return.

I just watched Assassination Tango and it peaked my interest.

Nounce

10-06-24, 05:40

There are still two girl clubs in BA. The street scene in downtown is dead. I visited often enough that I found a street scene that has not been reported on the AP site. The best quality sex is from the freelancer in the club. The service is limited in all other venues that I have tried. One time I just walked out of a date in Recoleta because the service was very restrictive despite the nice apartment and the girl was attractive.

You are way too late on almost every front.

Turgid

10-06-24, 16:13

...... I always said keep your expectation low......When the price is high my expectations are high.

Steve 9696

10-06-24, 16:47

Fewdie

10-06-24, 17:24

Stupid questions. Wtf. Waste of time. How do you not know the reason why people use anonymous payments and being dropped off at a different location than outside the clinica / strip club / etc etc?? Its like asking why use a glove and mask when robbing a bank.

Why would you walk the "last 100 m" rather than have the taxi drop you right outside the clinica? Anonymous prepaid card? I think you've been reading too many John Grisham novels.

Jbj64

10-06-24, 18:53

I will be in Buenos Aires in 2 weeks and have been reaching out on seeking and have 5 different contacts who have agreed to meet for a 150 USA 1 has said she does anal, 2 others said we could try.

I will report back in Nov.

As the other posters have said the commercial sex scene in BA totally bites. Do not go there if you are looking for great clubs and escorts. That said I have had three amazing Seeking Arrangement girls in BA. One was pre Covid but the other two were in 2024. It wasn't super cheap - $200 and $300 USD as I recall but damn we had some lovely dinners out and amazing room time. Two spoke excellent English and one not a lick.

So if you are going there anyhow try out Seeking and see what you can find. But def don't go there just for girls because you will be disappointed.

Steve 9696

10-06-24, 20:48

As the other posters have said the commercial sex scene in BA totally bites. Do not go there if you are looking for great clubs and escorts. That said I have had three amazing Seeking Arrangement girls in BA. One was pre Covid but the other two were in 2024. It wasn't super cheap - $200 and $300 USD as I recall but damn we had some lovely dinners out and amazing room time. Two spoke excellent English and one not a lick.

So if you are going there anyhow try out Seeking and see what you can find. But def don't go there just for girls because you will be disappointed.Sorry meant 2022 not 2024.

Tom Dick 69

10-06-24, 23:20

I was again in Sao Paulo in Jun'23, between April'24 and June'24, and now from Sep'24.

As I already spent few months in Sao Paulo, I don't (need to) explore for new places and stick with ones that I liked in previous trip (s).

I regularly visit Tangara and Yankin.

Both has about 30 girls each day. About 5-10 new girls every month.

Both open from 10 am till like 11 pm.

Tangara used to be open on Sundays, and it seems Yankin is also now open on Sundays.

Last year it was R140/30 min, R190/1 HR. This year R150/30 min, R200/1 HR. +R10-20 if paying by card.

I try to visit around 3 pm to see all girls. At 3 pm, the day shift girls are about to leave and the evening shift girls starts arriving.

There are 1 or 2 good / doable girls in Clinica Aneesh. R200/1 HR.

Clinica Shangri-la and Zarah massagem is also nearby. Both are hit & miss (ie. None doable some times). R220/1 HR in Zarah massagem.

I found another nearby place called 'Jade & Raissa', 2 blocks from Zarah massagem. Few doable girls. R220/ HR.

For all the above 6 places: both you and the girl shower before session, the rooms are good with double bed and most of the times with a mirror.

BBBJ: It's supposed to be BBBJ, but nowadays very few girls do automatically. Some do if you insist. Maybe I would have more luck if I could speak Portuguese. I don't push for BBBJ more than 2-3 times, otherwise the remaining session will not be good.

DFK: Some girls do DFK. But I tried to avoid unless I feel good chemistry, as I felt bit sick (cough, throat infection) after DFK with some girls.

For quick fuck, I recommend the 3 places near Santana metro. All about R50-60/15-20 min. About 5 girls in each place, rating 5-7/10. You can't shower, avg beds, girls supposedly shower, girls have bit attitude.

For larger selection (same quick fuck for R50-60/15-20 min), I recommend the 2 Edicifio buildings near Luz metro. 50-100 girls over 5-6 floors. No shower, cramped room with a single bed.

I could check out other mongering places and update info, like I used to in the places I visited before. But, all the maps are now locked, and I was asked to pay $10/ year for each map, even though I contributed heavily to update the maps. Even if I was ready to pay, I cannot use the 'Visa gift card'. It seems I need to put my real name (First, Last), address, phone number and email. That's too much of privacy loss.

If the maps are made available, I could check out the places and update here.

Nounce

10-07-24, 02:46

If the maps are made available, I could check out the places and update here.Do you use this web site?

This is the value of gp-guia.net.

Axel Heyst

10-07-24, 12:34

I was again in Sao Paulo in Jun'23, between April'24 and June'24, and now from Sep'24.

As I already spent few months in Sao Paulo, I don't (need to) explore for new places and stick with ones that I liked in previous trip (s).

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I could check out other mongering places and update info, like I used to in the places I visited before. But, all the maps are now locked, and I was asked to pay $10/ year for each map, even though I contributed heavily to update the maps. Even if I was ready to pay, I cannot use the 'Visa gift card'. It seems I need to put my real name (First, Last), address, phone number and email. That's too much of privacy loss..Good report mate, but I am at a loss as to why you need some other guy's map when you can make your own google map tailored made of where you have been, what you are interested in, and where you would like to go. I have my own maps of SP, RJ, BKK, PAt, CGK, MNL, Singapore, Yangon, etc, you name it. It takes time and effort to create these maps from scratch, but if it is important to you, you do it.

Knowledge

10-07-24, 15:33

Honestly speaking, for everyone except guys who exclusively do Scandallo, Casaoro, and Cafe Photo, gpguia is indispensable. The quality and breadth of the daily updates are extremely valuable. It is what this web site used to be 20 or so years ago before it became a place for guys to work through their unresolved emotional issues.

Do you use this web site?

WyattEarp

10-07-24, 15:46

Its like asking why use a glove and mask when robbing a bank.I'm guessing germs.

Knowledge

10-07-24, 17:43

Based on your report I think you might enjoy Clinica Chanel at Av. Ceci, 2236 - Planalto Paulista and just down the street the somewhat nicer (rooms not girls) Novo Ceci at Av. Ceci, 2189.

I was again in Sao Paulo in Jun'23, between April'24 and June'24, and now from Sep'24.

As I already spent few months in Sao Paulo, I don't (need to) explore for new places and stick with ones that I liked in previous trip (s).

I regularly visit Tangara and Yankin.

Both has about 30 girls each day. About 5-10 new girls every month.

Both open from 10 am till like 11 pm.

Tangara used to be open on Sundays, and it seems Yankin is also now open on Sundays.

Last year it was R140/30 min, R190/1 HR. This year R150/30 min, R200/1 HR. +R10-20 if paying by card.

I try to visit around 3 pm to see all girls. At 3 pm, the day shift girls are about to leave and the evening shift girls starts arriving.

There are 1 or 2 good / doable girls in Clinica Aneesh. R200/1 HR.

Clinica Shangri-la and Zarah massagem is also nearby. Both are hit & miss (ie. None doable some times). R220/1 HR in Zarah massagem.

I found another nearby place called 'Jade & Raissa', 2 blocks from Zarah massagem. Few doable girls. R220/ HR.

For all the above 6 places: both you and the girl shower before session, the rooms are good with double bed and most of the times with a mirror..

Tom Dick 69

10-08-24, 02:14

Good report mate, but I am at a loss as to why you need some other guy's map when you can make your own google map tailored made of where you have been, what you are interested in, and where you would like to go. I have my own maps of SP, RJ, BKK, PAt, CGK, MNL, Singapore, Yangon, etc, you name it. It takes time and effort to create these maps from scratch, but if it is important to you, you do it.I don't need map, I am happy with the current set of places I mentioned and it will keep me occupied for next month or so. I also created my own notes / doc from the reports for many places.

I was saying I could help updating info about the places in the map, like I used to in my previous reports. And some senior members appreciated my contribution.

Even though a single ISG member created & maintained maps for many places in latin america, I contributed to the map assuming it is the ISG community map that will be benefit everyone.

TouristInLust

10-08-24, 22:06

Thinking of doing an end of year trip to Buenos Aires. .Planning BA also tentatively in December. Flights to BA more expensive than other cities, out of NorCal. But flights to Santiago, Chile are much better priced, and more convenient. 1 layover of about 3 hours.

If I pick that route, I'll tour Santiago for 2-3 days, sightsee and get over jetlag and catch a direct flight to BA which are under 100 usd.

On the way back, flights from Bogota are convenient and better priced. Other cities you can check for better flights out are Lima, and Montevideo.

Knowledge

10-08-24, 22:48

Evan1

10-09-24, 06:12

Why can't I find Argentina? I'm planning to go there. Where can I get information about Argentina?

DasBooty

10-09-24, 07:09

Last year when I was here I'd have to wait in lines. Short ones at Scandallo, and long ones at Casarao. That is not happening to me anymore, and while I see lots of guys out drinking and talking, it does not seem like many of them are taking girls to a room. If the girls can't guarantee a payday, they stop showing up at all.I went in August and you rarely had to queue for a room as most guys were more interested in talking than fucking. The supply was higher than the demand but a majority of the girls were not "stunners".

Globalnomad5

10-09-24, 15:01

Why can't I find Argentina? I'm planning to go there. Where can I get information about Argentina?Click Argentina link under hotlinks in the upper left corner of the front page.

Axel Heyst

10-09-24, 16:12

One of the more frustrating things about spending more than a few days at a time in Brazil is the endless requests for a taxpayer ID number (aka "CPF" It really gets to be a pain in the ass. You need it to connect to free wifi in malls and supermarkets, you need it to activate SIM cards, even the Brazilian airlines make you jump through hoops to prove you are a foreigner before they will let you book a ticket from a domestic IP address. This free CPF generator solves all those problems. It's legit and I promise the link won't give you a virus. Thank me later with a decent report:

https://cpfgenerator.net/I have used a cpf generator to join MClass and it worked fine. But I would not recommend using a cpf generated # for purchasing an Airline ticket. I tried to use a generated CPF number to join Azul Air club. It did not work. The generated number was not accepted. Now I know the Azul reservation system sucks, and ordinarily I would book American Airlines or Latam Air which have 2 reliable online booking sites, but I have been toying with the idea of flying from FLL to VCP (Campinas) roundtrip to avoid flying out of MIA and flying out of GRU, 2 airports that are horrible for departures. The only thing that works on the Azul website is using my passport #. And to book a domestic flight from inside Brazil, I recommend simply using your VPN and avoiding Azul Air. GOL or Latam work well, with plenty of flights that are easy to book.

Lalabo

10-10-24, 06:16

I went in August and you rarely had to queue for a room as most guys were more interested in talking than fucking. The supply was higher than the demand but a majority of the girls were not "stunners".I too have visited in August. I don't think ones has to worry about wait time for room (most of the time) based on the average beauty level of lineup and the prices being quoted. Scandallo is going to roll out a fucking red carpet to the room the moment one agrees to pay 2 to 3 K for an hour in house (+300+ for room) for a girl.

Jqqmitch

10-10-24, 23:40

Steve 9696

10-11-24, 15:38

In SP for a few days and looking to order in.

Have seen various sites.

Photoacchompantes.

Garotalocal.

Modeatal.

Any experiences?

Filtering for English and doing the normal check for reviews. Especially on guia.

Anything I'm missing?I mean to each his own but you are in the very best place in the world to shop the girl buffet face to face in clinicas and boates. I truly don't understand why a man would pass that up?

Jqqmitch

10-11-24, 15:45

I mean to each his own but you are in the very best place in the world to shop the girl buffet face to face in clinicas and boates. I truly don't understand why a man would pass that up?Time and lack of any Portuguese is my enemy.

Fitting in Garotas between work.

Will get to a clinica for the experience.

But online can filter for English.

Steve 9696

10-11-24, 20:39

I mean to each his own but you are in the very best place in the world to shop the girl buffet face to face in clinicas and boates. I truly don't understand why a man would pass that up?Definitely don't let lack of Portuguese get in your way. Plenty of great dates are had at Scandallo with Google translate. And you can def find girls who speak enough English if you want that. As far as timing Scandallo is great at 11 pm. Go after your work dinners. That's what I do. Obv your life but I'the try to get to Scandallo one night to see what the fuss is about. You will never be quite the same. 😝.

Glenn Swagmire

10-11-24, 20:42

I can't comment on the English speaking part but I looked into PhotoAcompanhantes a bit before I arrived, and it just isn't worth it. You may find a gem like I did, but at least the other girls I was looking at were either scams or had no reviews on GP-Guia.

In SP for a few days and looking to order in.

Have seen various sites.

Photoacchompantes.

Garotalocal.

Modeatal.

Any experiences?

Filtering for English and doing the normal check for reviews. Especially on guia.

Anything I'm missing?

Knowledge

10-12-24, 00:19

Good advice, lack of Portuguese will barely slow anyone down in Scandallo. In fact, about the only thing that slows anyone down there is lack of cash.

Definitely don't let lack of Portuguese get in your way. Plenty of great dates are had at Scandallo with Google translate. And you can def find girls who speak enough English if you want that. As far as timing Scandallo is great at 11 pm. Go after your work dinners. That's what I do. Obv your life but I'the try to get to Scandallo one night to see what the fuss is about. You will never be quite the same. 😝.

Tochka

10-12-24, 01:51

Return trip to scandallo.

Went on Thursday night. The place was jumping with good music. Earlier went to the Bruno Mars show with my girlfriend and a hot blonde swingy Scandallo Garota. We had a Good time sitting up front listening to the local band. Finally know the words to those popular Brasilian songs. Crap! The garota prices seem to have increased a lot. Luckily my girl and I met an old flame. She gave a discount for couples. We agreed on $800 reais all night at Luah Motel. Get the room with the swimming pool. It has inflatable pool toys. Enjoyed going up to DJ booth to hangout when the main room becomes too crowded. Its like having a vip private area. Sorry yall had to listen to our music request but I tipped the DJ to play our request and give us a shout. The night was an awesome experience. Scandallo is the most addictive place.

Your experience will be different. Your garota experiences different. I damn enjoy the place and like going there to pickup hotties for wild ass threesomes. Its great to find a list of Bradesco banco ATM lobby open late to 10 at nights duringthe week, Saturday and Sunday late nights to get cash.

NiceFirst

10-12-24, 04:07

BBBJ: It's supposed to be BBBJ, but nowadays very few girls do automatically.

Unfortunately, the new generation of GP is very afraid of STDs (there are exceptions of course). Some don't let your hands or mouth anywhere near their puss. They will do a hand job, then put on the condom, then sex if they can get away with it, so always insist.

XXL

10-12-24, 04:58

Return trip to scandallo.

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Your experience will be different. Your garota experiences different. I damn enjoy the place and like going there to pickup hotties for wild ass threesomes. Its great to find a list of Bradesco banco ATM lobby open late to 10 at nights duringthe week, Saturday and Sunday late nights to get cash.Don't ATMs only dispense small amounts at late hours?

Tochka

10-12-24, 11:56

Don't ATMs only dispense small amounts at late hours?I can only share my experience with Bradesco Bank ATM because my international visa card only works with their ATM. Bradesco does not charge ATM fees and I decline the currency exchange option. Yesterday withdrew $2500 reais per transaction. $2500 reais cash x three transaction $7500 reais cash from Bradesco lobby ATM. In the olden days, last year, the amount was $3000 reais for each withdrawal.

Also, I do not want the security alert from my bank blocking the card until verifying the transaction. So after much trial and error with otherbbank ATM I stick with Bradesco as the most consistent ATM withdraw for my card. Just in case there is a fraud alert message I keep the phone handy to reply quick.

The standalone Bradesco ATM in gas stations, metro, or shopping malls I was given $1000 reais per transaction.

This is my limited experience figuring out what works for how I roll. None of this is a definitive statements as the fellas here have reported many many different experience with ATM and banks.

Nounce

10-12-24, 13:41

In SP for a few days and looking to order in.

Have seen various sites.

Photoacchompantes.

Garotalocal.

Modeatal.

Any experiences?

Filtering for English and doing the normal check for reviews. Especially on guia.

Anything I'm missing?For better quality, you can check out clubmodel. For lower price, you can check out Casarao at night. Go to Scandallo to get the best experience in the shorted amount of time possible.

It depends on luck to meet an English speaking girl.

Glenn Swagmire

10-12-24, 18:13

Today's technically a holiday, does anyone know if Scandallo and / or Casarao will be open today like normal?

Hobbying

10-12-24, 18:56

Definitely don't let lack of Portuguese get in your way. Plenty of great dates are had at Scandallo with Google translate. And you can def find girls who speak enough English if you want that. As far as timing Scandallo is great at 11 pm. Go after your work dinners. That's what I do. Obv your life but I'the try to get to Scandallo one night to see what the fuss is about. You will never be quite the same..There's premium for that, they will give you gringo pricing LOL.

So it will more than pay for itself to learn Porto.

Get ready for F1 end of the month, a girl told me she will ask 3 k for 1 hour or 7 k to go out, usually half that when not F1 LOL.

Knowledge

10-12-24, 23:32

There is discountsed pricing at Scandallo when you speak Portuguese? I learned something new today.

There's premium for that, they will give you gringo pricing LOL.

So it will more than pay for itself to learn Porto.

Get ready for F1 end of the month, a girl told me she will ask 3 k for 1 hour or 7 k to go out, usually half that when not F1 LOL.

BackpackBrian

10-13-24, 00:17

I haven't been to SP for 15 years.

What are most people paying for basic 30 min of FS?

BallsDeep1980

10-13-24, 02:06

What are the best websites for ordering a girl to your hotel / airbnb in Sao Paulo? Girls that actually show up being the girls in the photos, that don't cost an arm and a leg, etc.

Hobbying

10-13-24, 17:05

There is discountsed pricing at Scandallo when you speak Portuguese? I learned something new today.Great you are getting smarter everyday!

Jqqmitch

10-14-24, 21:28

Steve 9696

10-16-24, 14:03

Foolish

10-16-24, 16:44

Experienced boate guy but never much liked the Clinica daytime scene. Suggestions welcome.Not sure if too casual, but I did enjoy having a drink at Clinica Yankin in the bar area while on a training seminar online. Ended up chilling and chatting up the ladies there. No feeling of being rushed.

F.

Combo

10-17-24, 00:07

XXL

10-17-24, 03:27

Ever on the alert to avoid days when venues are closed, I'm wondering about these two upcoming holidays. Nov 15 - Republic Proclamation Day; and Nov 20 - Black Consciousness Day. Does anyone know if the usual places (Scandallo, Bomboa, Clinicas, etc) will be open those days. Thanks. Will post in General Brasil also.I'm landing in SP on November 15 and that has been confirmed to me as a day I will not be able to buy a local SIM card.

Axel Heyst

10-17-24, 03:59

Experienced boate guy but never much liked the Clinica daytime scene. Too point and shoot for me. I like the socializing in the club and picking my prey over a relaxing time. I will have some daytime on my hands for a change. Any recommendations how to spend and afternoon pre-Scandallo? I can of course try the daytime scene there but wondering what alternatives exist? Suggestions welcome.Steve, I think you know this already, but SP is primarily a 2 horse-town, or possibly a 3 horse- town if you want to include call girl sites like MClass & Club Model, hotel lobby FL's, ect, ect in the mix.

I share your preference for boates thanks to the social scenario of picking up boate girls in a nightclub setting and the overall quality of boate girls. The whole evening turns me on start to finish. But I also get off on point and shoot ie shagging a sexy girl within 5 minutes of setting my eyes on her. It's cool, it's raw and it is usually very good as you are turned on by a stranger in bed. Anyway, that's me, I like it, so once or twice a week I skip the boates, not my repeat boate girls in my hotel room at night, and I do a clinica run in the afternoon. I enjoy the change of scenery and the differences.

3 clinica suggestions:

1. My favorite regular clinica is Abboboro. The girls are of acceptable quality looks wise, some better looking than others, and the sessions are nearly always good to great.

2. The Palm: I hate to keep plugging this place, but it is good. The Plus: some of the girls are hot (boate quality hot). Sessions are nearly always good. Some are great and I have repeated many times inhouse with my 2 favorite Palm girls (they won't see me on the outside / boyfriends). The rooms are better than Scandallo' hotel rooms, The good & the bad depending how you look at it: The price is half that of Bomboa // the price is 2 x that of Abboboro. The bottom line: some Palm girls are smokin' hot!

3. The most non-clinica clinica in SP is called 57 House Friend's Club. I went there one time around 3 pm. It was very quiet, but a girl led to the bar area and I sat down and observed 4 or 5 girls casually hanging around. It was very laid back and there were a few more girls in the larger entertainment area as well and maybe 2 other customers and a bartender. Anyway, one of the girls, the best looking one, came over and waited by my table to see if I would invite her to sit with me. I did and I bought her a drink and before we drank half our drinks we were fooling around. The sex upstairs was very good too. She was a nice Indigenous, mixed race girl with an athletic, slender body!

The 57 price is similar to Abboboro less the drinks. I am told it gets lively at 57 in the evening as other clinica girls and FL's drop by. I believe you can take them out of the bar at night, kind of operating like an RJ Terma, but I could be wrong on that. Anyway, this place in the afternoon might be what you are looking for. I still highly recommend the Palm for the girl quality, however.

Have a great trip!

A. H.

Tochka

10-17-24, 13:03

May need a love motel later in the week. Can't book online as requesting a cpf.

Is it accepted practice to arrive with no reservation?

And will they accept cash instead of CC. Keen to not have a digital.

Trail.

Looking at crush motel.Crush Motel, my girlfriend and I have been to Crush, Lush, Colonial Palace Love Motel after picking up a hottie Garota from Scandallo for a threesome. They work pretty much the same. Uber to the love motel Crush, tell the uber to enter to reception. Some drivers want to drop off at the entrance rather than going to the reception. After pulling up there is a video screen with the different room types, pricing and periodio 3 HR minimum to all night, we prefer rooms with hidro, pool and jacuzzi which are more expensive and worth it!. Reception always asks for everyone's documents. I carry a laminated copy of the passport page or an expired driver doesn't matter. They want some ID from you. As you are handing all the docs to receptionist good opportunity to read the scandallo chica real name. Many give you their fake boate name. Now this is where negotiations come in before selecting the suite. Did you agree on an hourly time or all-night tryst with the Scandallo gal? I pre-negotiated all night $800 reais plus perfume gift, so no issues. If you talk about hourly and select a three-hour suite the chica is mentally calculating 3 x times whatever you agreed upon.

Some suites include morning breakfast which is a good value. Reception expects you to pay twice. Pay upon selecting the room and pay at the end to exit for all the consumables. They expect payment by pix, or credit card. I pay by card at entrance and cash at exit. If I want to avoid using the card at the entrance I give my girlfriend cash, she pays using her pix.

It's no problem no reservation is needed for the good suites which I highly recommend. The cheaper suites suck, they are smaller, and ruin the party mood with no space to move around and relax.

No matter how many times I bring drinks, chips, chocolates, munchies, the marolar (weed) to the suites the garotas still grab stuff out of the mini-fridge without asking. Agua de coca, KY. So expect to pay for all that shit at the exit. Which takes time as they send someone to check the minibar. BTW tip the Uber driver dropping you off in cash. They see it as hassle of time wasted at reception.

For all-night suite sessions, it is great to order breakfast in the morning or a decent meal in the middle of the night. For three hour quickie make sure to tell the garota your plan. One, two, or three-hour session. Otherwise, she expects 3 x whatever you agreed in Scandallo. The Garota can leave anytime by Uber. Reception will call the suite to confirm with you it's ok for her to leave. If you talked about paying her uber I have ordered two different ubers at the same time to take two different gals we picked at Scandallo plus third uber taking me and my girlfriend home to the casa. Two simultaneous Uber rides. Or give her cash up to you. Sometimes I give them a $25 reais uber gift card purchased from lojas Americana. That covers the garota to pay for her own damn uber. Without hearing BS of how far she lives. Or the reverse I ordered two or three ubers to pickup two Garotas to meet us directly at the Love Motel cause I can track that she will be there at the agreed time. See vagaboundi reports about garotas always late for shit.

Exit is the same go to reception pay for consumables, order Uber for pickup, and message the driver to come to reception. Some drivers want to meet outside crush instead of coming inside which is a hell of a lot more convenient.

That is my experience, your may vary, others have different experiences, I prefer love motels when meeting new Garotas for the first few times.

This is my limited experience figuring out what works for how I roll. None of this is a definitive statements as the fellas here have reported many many different experience with love motels.

XXL

10-17-24, 13:12

... Reception always asks for everyone's documents. I carry a laminated copy of the passport page or an expired driver doesn't matter. They want some ID from you. ..
I hope you mean they accept a copy and do not insist on seeing the original.

Motels can be fun especially if you want to be free to make some noise, like play loudish music, which you wouldn't normally do in a hotel room. I also like the mirrors. I think the further away into the outskirts, the better value for money the motel. Distance is a deterrent.

Tochka

10-17-24, 13:31

I hope you mean they accept a copy and do not insist on seeing the original.

Motels can be fun especially if you want to be free to make some noise (play loudish music) which you wouldn't normally do in a hotel room. Motel rooms are also equipped with mirrors.Correct that is my experience copy of some ID, expired driver, garota CPF ID on her phone, paper or phone copy of passport page, or whatever you carry around as ID, they just want something to enter into their computer system. You choose whatever you want to give them.

Steve 9696

10-17-24, 15:48

Steve, I think you know this already, but SP is primarily a 2 horse-town, or possibly a 3 horse- town if you want to include call girl sites like MClass & Club Model, hotel lobby FL's, ect, ect in the mix.

I share your preference for boates thanks to the social scenario of picking up boate girls in a nightclub setting and the overall quality of boate girls. The whole evening turns me on start to finish. But I also get off on point and shoot ie shagging a sexy girl within 5 minutes of setting my eyes on her. It's cool, it's raw and it is usually very good as you are turned on by a stranger in bed. Anyway, that's me, I like it, so once or twice a week I skip the boates, not my repeat boate girls in my hotel room at night, and I do a clinica run in the afternoon. I enjoy the change of scenery and the differences.

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A. H.Thanks Axel. Always good info. I've been to Abbobora and agree as a CLínica format it's good and has good lineup. But not my thing. Also tried 57 Friends and I def would recommend as a very chill vibe with cheap beers and no pressure. I may check it out again. I've def thought about trying th Palms based on your recos. Not my preferred format but may give it a go. Also had a friend say Bomboa runs lunch specials. I hit their WhatsApp and inquired. This may be the front runner if so. I am staying with easy access to Palms, 57 and Bomboa so def all remain options.

Steve 9696

10-17-24, 18:45

Thanks Axel. Always good info. I've been to Abbobora and agree as a CLnica format it's good and has good lineup. But not my thing. Also tried 57 Friends and I def would recommend as a very chill vibe with cheap beers and no pressure. I may check it out again. I've def thought about trying th Palms based on your recos. Not my preferred format but may give it a go. Also had a friend say Bomboa runs lunch specials. I hit their WhatsApp and inquired. This may be the front runner if so. I am staying with easy access to Palms, 57 and Bomboa so def all remain options.Just confirmed directly w Bomboa. Normal entry all consummable is 347 R. Room is 210 R.

But they have a lunch special where 12-3 pm is 147 R all consummable.

It's a bit moot because it's all consumable but if you eat light or don't do alcohol the 147 would be appealing.

Axel Heyst

10-17-24, 19:51

Just confirmed directly w Bomboa. Normal entry all consummable is 347 R. Room is 210 R.

But they have a lunch special where 12-3 pm is 147 R all consummable.

It's a bit moot because it's all consumable but if you eat light or don't do alcohol the 147 would be appealing.I never tried Bomboa in the afternoon, but one of my favorite Bomboa girls used to work the Friday afternoon Bomboa shift so she could get off work early and head back home to RJ to spend the weekend with her daughter and mother. She was a looker and a really nice girl. If you find someone like her, your afternoon visit will be totally worth it.

WyattEarp

10-17-24, 21:58

Gordon987

10-17-24, 23:07

May need a love motel later in the week. Can't book online as requesting a cpf.

Is it accepted practice to arrive with no reservation?

And will they accept cash instead of CC. Keen to not have a digital.

Trail.

Looking at crush motel.Speaking of love motel, for a 3-day short trip to SP, does it make sense to book love motels directly for the whole trip instead of booking regular hotels and then book hourly love motels if needed?

Gordon987

10-17-24, 23:13

Speaking of love motel, for a 3-day short trip to SP, does it make sense to book a love motel directly for the whole trip instead of booking a regular hotel and then booking love motels if needed?

Combo

10-18-24, 03:34

Just confirmed directly w Bomboa. Normal entry all consummable is 347 R. Room is 210 R.

But they have a lunch special where 12-3 pm is 147 R all consummable.

It's a bit moot because it's all consumable but if you eat light or don't do alcohol the 147 would be appealing.How many women would you expect to be working there around lunchtime? I've always thought of the boates as nighttime places and the clinicas for the day. But maybe will have to mix things up a bit.

Steve 9696

10-18-24, 13:24

How many women would you expect to be working there around lunchtime? I've always thought of the boates as nighttime places and the clinicas for the day. But maybe will have to mix things up a bit.Dunno but give me a few weeks and you will get a report out on all my antics across Rio and SP, including Bomboa daytime.

SocratesNY

10-22-24, 06:04

Ever on the alert to avoid days when venues are closed, I'm wondering about these two upcoming holidays. Nov 15 - Republic Proclamation Day; and Nov 20 - Black Consciousness Day. Does anyone know if the usual places (Scandallo, Bomboa, Clinicas, etc) will be open those days. Thanks. Will post in General Brasil also.No difference that I noticed on the 2 occasions I was in SP during those holidays in November with regards to boates and talent attendance. Maybe it'll be different this time around as it's on a Friday. Scandallo and Bomboa were open during those dates in 2021 and 2022.

ShadowJ

10-22-24, 20:21

Unfortunately, the new generation of GP is very afraid of STDs (there are exceptions of course). Some don't let your hands or mouth anywhere near their puss. They will do a hand job, then put on the condom, then sex if they can get away with it, so always insist.I'm just starting my research in planning a potential trip to Brazil. Over the last few years, I've mongered in the Philippines, Thailand, Madagascar, Bogota, and Tijuana and have always found a way to get BBFS. If BBBJ is hard to get, does that mean BBFS is even harder to come by?

The Cane

10-22-24, 22:14

I'm just starting my research in planning a potential trip to Brazil. Over the last few years, I've mongered in the Philippines, Thailand, Madagascar, Bogota, and Tijuana and have always found a way to get BBFS. If BBBJ is hard to get, does that mean BBFS is even harder to come by?Build a rapport with a girl. Get her to like you. Get her comfortable with you. And then you should have zero problems getting a BBBJ in Brazil. I've never had a CBJ in Brazil, and I'm not about to start now. As for BBFS, that's not something I go for much or am typically interested in with a tute, but as you already know it will be far more of a challenge to get that, just like in most parts of the world. Places where I found getting BBFS to be really easy were Morocco and the Philippines, and that's it as far as my direct, personal experience goes.

Combo

10-22-24, 23:02

No difference that I noticed on the 2 occasions I was in SP during those holidays in November with regards to boates and talent attendance. Maybe it'll be different this time around as it's on a Friday. Scandallo and Bomboa were open during those dates in 2021 and 2022.Just to make sure, I messaged Scandallo, Bomboa, and Connection and all said they would be open as usual those dates.

I imagine these places are open most official holidays aside from Christmas Eve and Day, NY Day and Good Friday.

Combo

10-22-24, 23:06

Turgid

10-23-24, 00:07

You should have no problem finding what you want. It's rare to find a Brasilian woman that won't do BBBJ. Brasilieras are generally very wild and passionate, though they do seem to draw the line at BBFS.BBFS means possible STD or pregnancy which could interfere with their sex life.

Knowledge

10-23-24, 01:24

In my experience BBBJ is not at all difficult to get in Sao Paulo. I have no knowledge of BBFS. It is something I avoid at all costs.

I'm just starting my research in planning a potential trip to Brazil. Over the last few years, I've mongered in the Philippines, Thailand, Madagascar, Bogota, and Tijuana and have always found a way to get BBFS. If BBBJ is hard to get, does that mean BBFS is even harder to come by?

Knowledge

10-23-24, 01:29

New Year's week is virtually nuclear winter it is so dead. Businesses of every sort are closed. Available girls are few and far between because so many of them go to the beaches of Guaruja and Santos. I found this out the hard way two years ago.

Just to make sure, I messaged Scandallo, Bomboa, and Connection and all said they would be open as usual those dates.

I imagine these places are open most official holidays aside from Christmas Eve and Day, NY Day and Good Friday.

XXL

10-23-24, 03:34

I'm just starting my research in planning a potential trip to Brazil. Over the last few years, I've mongered in the Philippines, Thailand, Madagascar, Bogota, and Tijuana and have always found a way to get BBFS. If BBBJ is hard to get, does that mean BBFS is even harder to come by?You will get BBBJ 80% of the time without even asking in clinicas. In boates you will get it 80% of the time AFTER asking. In boates if you don't ask upfront you may not get it more than 50% of the time.

And yes, BBFS is hard to come by judging by my experience in Brazil (and compared to, say, Thailand!). In Brazil I've had girls agreeing to BBFS, only to later insist on coitus interruptus. Aaargh! I've also had girls demanding a shitload of STD tests, ie not just the usual (HIV, gono, chlamydia), but also Hep B and C, condylomata HPV, etc. Brazil is definitely no barebacking paradise.

A girl in Brazil who'd go bareback with me too easily would raise my red flag. I'd think she was out to pregnancy rape me.

HiddenEye

10-24-24, 01:58

I was in Scandallo last week and talent was not very high this time. I was already on my third walk in the entire club and found nothing.

Suddenly I feel a hand on my back, I turn and there was this drunk girl trying to make conversation "Hi chileno!" she said. My instant reaction was, not thank you, and I started walking again.

Then I see this girl again from the distance and it was a girl I used to take 10 years ago from Cafe Photo! Yesssss sir, 10 years. Back then she was a true stunner.

Of course 10 years made its work on this girl. It changed a beautiful long haired brunette into a drunk fitness pro. Of course it was her. Well, the shadow of her.

The lack of amazing talent is visible lately.

Axel Heyst

10-24-24, 02:25

Great story HiddenEye. Something similar has happened to me on a couple of occasions in Thailand, so I have to ask: did you play the romantic and consummate your reunion with the long lost Cafe Photo girl or let her go? I can tell you that I consummated one my reunions with a long lost Pattaya Go Go girl I used to know. 555. The 1st night we got back together was awesome. She had lost a little in the looks department, but she was still hot.

I was in Scandallo last week and talent was not very high this time. I was already on my third walk in the entire club and found nothing.

Suddenly I feel a hand on my back, I turn and there was this drunk girl trying to make conversation "Hi chileno!" she said. My instant reaction was, not thank you, and I started walking again.

Then I see this girl again from the distance and it was a girl I used to take 10 years ago from Cafe Photo! Yesssss sir, 10 years. Back then she was a true stunner.

Of course 10 years made its work on this girl. It changed a beautiful long haired brunette into a drunk fitness pro. Of course it was her. Well, the shadow of her.

The lack of amazing talent is visible lately.

TheVirgin

10-24-24, 08:13

You will get BBBJ 80% of the time without even asking in clinicas. In boates you will get it 80% of the time AFTER asking. In boates if you don't ask upfront you may not get it more than 50% of the time.

And yes, BBFS is hard to come by judging by my experience in Brazil (and compared to, say, Thailand!). In Brazil I've had girls agreeing to BBFS, only to later insist on coitus interruptus. Aaargh! I've also had girls demanding a shitload of STD tests, ie not just the usual (HIV, gono, chlamydia), but also Hep B and C, condylomata HPV, etc. Brazil is definitely no barebacking paradise.

A girl in Brazil who'd go bareback with me too easily would raise my red flag. I'd think she was out to pregnancy rape me.I spent 10 nights over the past 2 weeks at scandallo, with about 20 garotas, and not a single one tried to CBJ me. Even when I was screening / interviewing, I never bothered asking if they BBBJ, Everyone just did. One did ask if I wanted it covered, which I promptly declined.

Most asked for $1-2 k, I tried various methods, including Axel's 1/2+200 strategy, but was never able to get anyone to under $1 k.

Towards later visits, I just opened with rs$1 k myself ("vamos, mil? "), and that had a reasonable strike rate, with some of the more astute negotiators pushing me to $1200.

There was one that got me for $2k. At first I was holding firm at $1200, did a walk away, which didn't work, and eventually capitulated for $2 k.

I found that Tues-Thurs are by far the busiest times, with the best time to arrive being 9 pm.

Most of the girls start trickling in from 9-10 pm to make the 10 pm cutoff before they have to pay entry. But most patrons don't show up until after 10 pm, which gave me a 1 hour window, where most of the girls were available, fresh, and not already talking to or fucking another patron.

On a future visit, I plan to go at 7 pm to save the $200, and see how the day shift selection is.

Friday / Saturday are still great, but are definitely quieter than Tues-Thurs.

I did check out Cafe Photo twice, and both times it was a miss.

Once I went on a Monday night at about midnight. There was maybe 10 garotas max in there, and a handful of patrons.

I went back again the following night at 9:30 pm. There was 6-8 girls. I left after 20 minutes, straight to scandallo, and there was over 100 to choose from.

There were some acceptably good looking ones there though, and its not a bad place to go for a more relaxed vibe. I'm personally quite picky, so prefer the much wider selection available at scandallo.

There is also a private casino a 1 min walk away from photo, on r. Alvorada that had a dozen or so garotas milling around. Average hotness of them was quite high, 7-8+. At first I couldn't tell if they were working or not, because they were gambling and drinking there like normal patrons.

The casino is private and members only, but anyone that's a member can bring you in to become a member. And they seem to allow anyone with a chinese (and possibly any east asian ID) just go in without being a member.

I wouldn't go to the casino instead of scandallo, but if I was at photo again, its worth the 1 min walk to see if theres any talent.

Steve 9696

10-24-24, 12:31

I spent 10 nights over the past 2 weeks at scandallo, with about 20 garotas, and not a single one tried to CBJ me. Even when I was screening / interviewing, I never bothered asking if they BBBJ, Everyone just did. One did ask if I wanted it covered, which I promptly declined.

Most asked for $1-2 k, I tried various methods, including Axel's 1/2+200 strategy, but was never able to get anyone to under $1 k.

Towards later visits, I just opened with rs$1 k myself ("vamos, mil? "), and that had a reasonable strike rate, with some of the more astute negotiators pushing me to $1200.

There was one that got me for $2k. At first I was holding firm at $1200, did a walk away, which didn't work, and eventually capitulated for $2 k.

I found that Tues-Thurs are by far the busiest times, with the best time to arrive being 9 pm.

Most of the girls start trickling in from 9-10 pm to make the 10 pm cutoff before they have to pay entry. But most patrons don't show up until after 10 pm, which gave me a 1 hour window, where most of the girls were available, fresh, and not already talking to or fucking another patron.

On a future visit, I plan to go at 7 pm to save the $200, and see how the day shift selection is.

Friday / Saturday are still great, but are definitely quieter than Tues-Thurs.

I did check out Cafe Photo twice, and both times it was a miss.

Once I went on a Monday night at about midnight. There was maybe 10 garotas max in there, and a handful of patrons.

I went back again the following night at 9:30 pm. There was 6-8 girls. I left after 20 minutes, straight to scandallo, and there was over 100 to choose from.

There were some acceptably good looking ones there though, and its not a bad place to go for a more relaxed vibe. I'm personally quite picky, so prefer the much wider selection available at scandallo.

There is also a private casino a 1 min walk away from photo, on r. Alvorada that had a dozen or so garotas milling around. Average hotness of them was quite high, 7-8+. At first I couldn't tell if they were working or not, because they were gambling and drinking there like normal patrons.

The casino is private and members only, but anyone that's a member can bring you in to become a member. And they seem to allow anyone with a chinese (and possibly any east asian ID) just go in without being a member.

I wouldn't go to the casino instead of scandallo, but if I was at photo again, its worth the 1 min walk to see if theres any talent.Great report. Boots on the ground is always appreciated. You did really good at 1000 R. Remember the Reis is like USD 5.6 to 1 these days. $178. Niceeee! I used to pay 800 five or six years ago but Reis was 4:1. You did well. Really quite the bargain for top girls worldwide.

Axel Heyst

10-24-24, 12:59

I spent 10 nights over the past 2 weeks at scandallo, with about 20 garotas, and not a single one tried to CBJ me.
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There is also a private casino a 1 min walk away from photo, on r. Alvorada that had a dozen or so garotas milling around. Average hotness of them was quite high, 7-8+. At first I couldn't tell if they were working or not, because they were gambling and drinking there like normal patrons.

The casino is private and members only, but anyone that's a member can bring you in to become a member. And they seem to allow anyone with a chinese (and possibly any east asian ID) just go in without being a member.

I wouldn't go to the casino instead of scandallo, but if I was at photo again, its worth the 1 min walk to see if theres any talent.Hi TheVirgin, I enjoyed reading your report. 20 girls in 2 weeks is a full schedule. Way to go!

I was intrigued a little with your tip on this casino located on are. Alvorada near Cafe Photo. Are you talking about on Monte? It sounds interesting and has some positive reviews on Google maps. I wonder what my odds are of gaining admission if I just show up there one night with an American smile on my face and money in my wallet?

HiddenEye

10-24-24, 21:46

Aging is not a problem for me. I would have brought her to a table and talk, but this brunette had a different vibe from before. She definetely was drunk, looked strong fitness and had this pressing attitude. Unhealthy.

I'm sure it would have been a bad idea because she would have insisted go upstairs.

There are other girls who are mothers now and look very attractive. This was not the case.

Great story HiddenEye. Something similar has happened to me on a couple of occasions in Thailand, so I have to ask: did you play the romantic and consummate your reunion with the long lost Cafe Photo girl or let her go? I can tell you that I consummated one my reunions with a long lost Pattaya Go Go girl I used to know. 555. The 1st night we got back together was awesome. She had lost a little in the looks department, but she was still hot.

Combo

10-25-24, 00:18

TheVirgin

10-25-24, 03:50

Hi TheVirgin, I enjoyed reading your report. 20 girls in 2 weeks is a full schedule. Way to go!

I was intrigued a little with your tip on this casino located on are. Alvorada near Cafe Photo. Are you talking about on Monte? It sounds interesting and has some positive reviews on Google maps. I wonder what my odds are of gaining admission if I just show up there one night with an American smile on my face and money in my wallet?By the end of it, my upper inner thigh's were so sore that I was having trouble walking.

For the casino, odds are near zero. They were extremely strict about the membership. However, any member can walk you in as their guest, and the casino has a large membership base. Between midnight to 2:30 am were the busiest times there. For those that are degenerate gamblers like myself, the casino will let you buy chips with a credit card, with no fee. Up to 20k per swipe. The charge rings up as normal purchase of health care services, so you get your points / rewards.

And on the off chance you win, you get lots of cash to spend at scandy. I got lucky and won about 40k there. Because almost all brazilians there take their payouts in pix, the casino didnt have enough cash on hand to pay me out. But I came back the next day as instructed, and they paid me in full without issue.

Great report. Boots on the ground is always appreciated. You did really good at 1000 R. Remember the Reis is like USD 5.6 to 1 these days. $178. Niceeee! I used to pay 800 five or six years ago but Reis was 4:1. You did well. Really quite the bargain for top girls worldwide.

I was certainly happy. The cost is a bit higher than in Colombia, but I found the quality to be a lot better. The net cost per encounter ended up a bit higher, due to rooms, entry/consumption (including one day where it was r700 to enter due to Henry Freitas), buying girls occasional drinks etc. But I leveraged Axel's suggestion of only sampling new girls on site, typically 1-3 a day. Then grabbing whatsapp's and taking my favorites back to hotel for extended sessions.

One thing to note if youre taking girls out of there is to know what their exit fee will be. They'll generally expect you to pay it for them, and while most are just 300, the ones that come late or less than 5 days a week are 600, plus whatever they happened to consume that night on their card. I learned the hard way a few times, and started only paying flat fee, and negotiating a price with a deduction for any exit fee I pay.

Gordon987

10-25-24, 04:35

One thing to note if youre taking girls out of there is to know what their exit fee will be. They'll generally expect you to pay it for them, and while most are just 300, the ones that come late or less than 5 days a week are 600, plus whatever they happened to consume that night on their card. I learned the hard way a few times, and started only paying flat fee, and negotiating a price with a deduction for any exit fee I pay.For the flat fee, do you mean negotiating a flat price including any exit fee you pay?

Nounce

10-25-24, 07:09

For the flat fee, do you mean negotiating a flat price including any exit fee you pay?Some girls need to pay entry that is 300. The take out fee is 300. The girl also has drink charge. It is usually only required to pay the exit fee of 300. But the girl can trick you and you may end up paying all 3 charges. To avoid being taken advantage of by he girl, pre-negotiate to pay only exit fee 300.

Nounce

10-25-24, 07:35

Yesssss sir, 10 years. I reconnected with a girl recently. She is pregnant and will give birth soon. She is like a long lost love. She is a sugar baby, not mine. Before she had a very wealthy SD that supported her whole family. He was generous to her and did not need much sex but wanted have a child with her so they had been trying. He tried to control her so he did not give her cash to spend. That is where I came in. He put a tracker on her iPhone and tracked her to my apartment and we met. LOL. She could even hear the car of her SD driving around my apartment and was nervous at the time. Now she is pregnant with another SD and is very happy.

Turgid

10-25-24, 15:34

Yup. In dozens of trips to Brasil, only one girl (that I can remember) insisted on covered BJ.From my experience Brazilian girls enjoy giving BBBJs, some may actually be disappointed if you ask for a CBJ.

WaltoDerri

10-26-24, 04:51

So I'll be touching down in Sao Paulo in just a few days, is Scandallo really that much better than Casarao?

Also where am I most likely to find a girl who looks like Brazilian Hatsune Miku?I went last night and loved it. They were having a Halloween theme. Tons of cuties. It was raining when the doors opened so only a few guys and the ratio of women to out favor. Me and my buddy snagged 2 friends for an amount much less than we've been asked before. A local recommended it to us so that should speak volumes about affordability. Girls are freelance and rates are negotiable. I liked it better than Scandallo. Good luck.

WaltoDerri

10-26-24, 04:54

Greetings gents. Finally made it to Brazil and share my contribution. I have mixed feelings. I went with 2 buddies. Scandalo is a beautiful facility and all but many of the girls here are typical plastic bimbos with GPS. Many don’t even smile back at you. I’m in my 30s and get told I still pass for my 20s. Don't know what the hype is. Personally I prefer girl next door types. Cute over hot. Maybe it was just a bad night. There was a private event upstairs so maybe all the gems were there. However I met a tall beauty named "Nicoly". Sometimes I hate the chats but I know most women find it off putting for us to immediately ask "how much" but I find this to be better than wasting each others time if you're both just going to realize you disagree about the gift. However, this being my first time here I indulged the conversation. She speaks a little English, Italian, but ofc mostly Portuguese.

We hit it off but ultimately she quoted 2,300 BRL (400 USD).

I was a little tipsy not thinking clearly and forgetting the conversion rate. I'm initially agreeable until I remember to check the conversion on my phone and I say never mind. Thanks anyway.

Her demeanor immediately sours and she says What? Wait why?

Tried to negotiate to 1 K and we just went back and forth. Settled on 1500 BRL for extra time, GFE, (my definition including BBJ and kissing etc as it has been my experience with 17 other women in Brazil) and in the lobby she agrees to my terms.

Once we get in the room we get in the shower and she's "charming" again until she tries to butter me up for an extra 500 BRL to which ofc I say no. She asks why again? I just say I don't have the cash on me. I do, but I wanted to have enough for at least another chica and overall her demeanor and pushiness was ruining my mood.

Obviously, if I wasn't willing to do 2300 why settle for 2000? I don't point this out verbally but I stay polite and firm. Terrible negotiating skills on her part.

We finish showering and get ready on the bed. She immediately becomes mechanical gave a less than mid performance. I lay ready but she just starts jerking me and I just wait to be topped off. She said "oh no I don't do that" LOL insisted on CBJ reneging on the GFE and BBJ negotiated before hand, which I did clarify. She blames it on the language barrier but I used a translator app on my phone lmao. I wonder if she planned to give this mid performance for 400 or did it out of spite LOL.

She goes on to complain about her personal expenses and how the house takes a cut and blah blah blah. Typical GPS yapping. This ruins the mood entirely and I want to bail but she insists on finishing. I guess the girls get in trouble over bad reviews or something but I had no real proof just my word against hers. She was hot but the personality and quality of service was like any boring Eros woman back home.

Additionally, what I don't like is that the house does not include the use of the room in your admission price of 700 BRL (120 USD).

Instead my companion and the house neglect to mention this until after the deed is done and spring an extra charge of 300 BRL ($50 USD) on you.

So I was salty after being backed into a corner for surprise fees and services I did not agree too. Waited in the dining room / bar for my boys to finish with their chicas.

Side note: At least the food was good. However, Brazil makes terrible Moscow mules. Why the fuck did it come with whipped cream? LOL.

I accompanied my friends to find their girls and a beautiful tan typical looking Latina approaches us but comes right to me and asks "Hablas espaol?" And a spark instantly ignited. I was so ecstatic to finally be able to clearly communicate with someone as I know Spanish. She's from another South American country and we hit it off. She says I caught her eye with my silk shirt when I first entered the club but thought I only knew English. She decided to shoot her shot anyway. We click.

I tell her about my previous experience and makes me a deal for 1 K BRL and informs our group that 1 K-1. 5 K BRL is the "standard" rate and girls over charge if they think they can rinse you. This is, after all, where So Paulo's rich come to play. I did come prepared with money but I wanted quality. My new companion DELIVERED and gave me full GFE and I worked out all of my frustration in her. Got her number to meet another day. I genuinely enjoyed her company. I wished I had noticed her sooner and I would have taken her home with me.

All in all one should visit Scandallo for the experience but find a way to gauge for their desired gift ASAP and hold out until you're about an hour or so in the club. Idk if I will revisit. Maybe one day if I get a better paying job where a bad romp won't dent my budget.

- Walto aka Passport Papi.

Combo

10-26-24, 06:10

Steve 9696

10-26-24, 17:25

First WD thanks for your reports! Gets pretty incestuous in here sometimes and great to have new contributors and new opinions. Think you are spot on about Casarao. Def more a locals place everyone wearing a black tee and sneakers. And the quality overall down a notch. But wow some gems exist. We pulled a 9 and a 10 (no lie!) from Casarao last time. Just got to find the gems.

Sorry you had a dud in Scandallo but were redeemed! In all my times there only one mediocre experience. Sorry you got it out the gate. But it happens from time to time. Still no place better for glitz and glam and an almost guaranteed experience. Of course I love the chit chat drinking dancing and kissing pre-room. So a bit more my jam than urs.

Thanks again for the perspective.

Lalabo

10-26-24, 21:47

I have mixed feelings. I went with 2 buddies. Scandalo is a beautiful facility and all but many of the girls here are typical plastic bimbos with GPS. Many dont even smile back at you. Im in my 30s and get told I still pass for my 20s. Don't know what the hype is. Personally I prefer girl next door types. Cute over hot. Maybe it was just a bad night. There was a private event upstairs so maybe all the gems were there. However I met a tall beauty named "Nicoly". Sometimes I hate the chats but I know most women find it off putting for us to immediately ask "how much" but I find this to be better than wasting each others time if you're both just going to realize you disagree about the gift. However, this being my first time here I indulged the conversation. She speaks a little English, Italian, but ofc mostly Portuguese.

We hit it off but ultimately she quoted 2,300 BRL (400 USD).
Thanks for sharing the good and the bad.

I wish you had informed the Scandallo management about your subpar experience, how the girl reneged on agreed upon services and tried to extract extra money. It is possible nothing positive will come out of it especially if that was the 1st complaint against her. I bet another such complaint will prompt some action, it not getting her kicked out. For an average Brazilian standard, kind of money these girls ask and make is insane. Do you think a scummy biach like Nicoly is going to risk it if she knows the guy might report if shitty service was provided. I bet not!

What do you think she is going to do, going forward, if there are no repercussions for providing shitty service? She is going to look for another gringo, knowing full well there are takers for $2300 (I am using yours as an example only and not picking on you. It might as well be me agreeing to for 3 K / hour ask without hesitation.), throws a higher number to see it sticks. Let's say she serves up same shitty service to the next gringo who accepts her ask and then decides it's not worth the trouble informing the management about it and moves on, which is the perfect outcome for such biach to continue same shit as long as she can. FFS, just report shitty service at venues like Scandallo, especially if you are pay well over 1. 5 K / hour. I personally would end a session immediately when a biach pulls such shit and involve management. I do that even when I know management may act in my favor or I have to pay the girl full agreed upon amount. I bet that biach is not going to pull that shit on anyone else after being exposed on how she operates to management. My gut feeling is that the places like Scandallo cares about their reputation more than we think and they will get rid of bitches like that.

Your observations about Casarao match my experience too. I do visit Casarao most of the days when I am in SP and sometimes after visiting Scandallo when I don't find anything there. I enjoy Scandallo visits with group of friends than alone.

FernandoAlonso

10-27-24, 16:01

Tried to negotiate to 1 K and we just went back and forth. Settled on 1500 BRL for extra time, GFE, (my definition including BBJ and kissing etc as it has been my experience with 17 other women in Brazil) and in the lobby she agrees to my terms.

Additionally, what I don't like is that the house does not include the use of the room in your admission price of 700 BRL (120 USD).

- Walto aka Passport Papi.One quick personal observation, when I get quoted a ridiculous price I walk away. I never got anything good out of renegotiations in such a scenario. Negotiations inside the standard parameters are ok but if someone wants to take you for a ride, this tells it all IMHO.

Quick question 700 entrance fee? Was it not 300 before 19:00 and 500 thereafter (partially consumable)?

On the ground and will hit Scandallo Tuesday, as today it's closed and Monday seems to be a bad day too?

FA.

FernandoAlonso

10-27-24, 16:17

First time in Brasil, so if I bore the old hands please forgive me.

Hit up Abbabaro Saturday afternoon, completely jetlagged but you only live once, right?

You need to know the address, go inside the long corridor, first door on the right. Say Hi and sit down somewhere. It was full of local punters and when I started to wonder the magic started. Well or just their way of doing things. One girl comes, greets each punter (who has to get up or she has to bow down, quite a scene) and mumbles her name, not always understandable and then vanishes. This goes on and on. After a girl I liked showed up the second time I just got up and told reception her name. That was apparently correct as she led me to the hotel, where you pay 150 for the room, the girls rate increased to 250, sigh.

Rooms are functional brothel rooms, you chosen one leads you there and while you shower she makes the bed, then she showers alone too. Not my preferred way but here we go. Bia (was an absolute 10, rock hard body, pretty, amazing ass and shapely A / be cups. But all professional. No kissing, little touching, very short BJ but lots of hand action. Looks 10, performance 5. Nothing of the Brazilian fire and sensuality I encountered before. So for that price pretty expensive.

WIR? Not really. Regarding transportation you can walk 10 minutes to Ibirapuera shopping, there is also a subway station. Not recommended in the night I would say.

FA.

Today is Sunday, I found one CLínica that is open Tangara but no experience reports, any thoughts? Or other possibilities?

FernandoAlonso

10-27-24, 16:25

Great report. Boots on the ground is always appreciated. You did really good at 1000 R. Remember the Reis is like USD 5.6 to 1 these days. $178. Niceeee! I used to pay 800 five or six years ago but Reis was 4:1. You did well. Really quite the bargain for top girls worldwide.Best I found was 5,45 other cambios as little as 5,25. Official rate is indeed 5,6. May try a VISA ATM, any recommendations which bank is best here in terms of extra charges?

Combo

10-27-24, 17:15

First time in Brasil, so if I bore the old hands please forgive me.

Hit up Abbabaro Saturday afternoon, completely jetlagged but you only live once, right?

Today is Sunday, I found one CLnica that is open Tangara but no experience reports, any thoughts? Or other possibilities?I believe that Bahamas (boate) is open on Sunday.

One quick personal observation, when I get quoted a ridiculous price I walk away. I never got anything good out of renegotiations in such a scenario. Negotiations inside the standard parameters are ok but if someone wants to take you for a ride, this tells it all IMHO.

FA.That's the smartest way. If she starts the encounter by insulting you, it's probably not going to be good. I generally don't ask for her price. Doing that invites her to throw out a high number. I've found it's better to just say this is how much I'll give you and that's it.

Gordon987

10-27-24, 17:31

Best I found was 5,45 other cambios as little as 5,25. Official rate is indeed 5,6. May try a VISA ATM, any recommendations which bank is best here in terms of extra charges?For VISA ATM, my understanding is that it doesn't matter which bank's ATM you are using, and you will get the official VISA exchange rate. Of course different banks may charge different amount of fees, but your card issuing bank may be able to cover it.

Lalabo

10-27-24, 17:32

Bia (was an absolute 10, rock hard body, pretty, amazing ass and shapely A / be cups. But all professional. No kissing, little touching, very short BJ but lots of hand action. Looks 10, performance 5. Nothing of the Brazilian fire and sensuality I encountered before. So for that price pretty expensive.

WIR? Not really. Regarding transportation you can walk 10 minutes to Ibirapuera shopping, there is also a subway station. Not recommended in the night I would say.
Quite a few girls are like this at this place. I had average to below average sessions most of the time at this place, so I don't visit anymore.

Today is Sunday, I found one CLnica that is open Tangara but no experience reports, any thoughts? Or other possibilities?Clinicas Prime and Maruna are open on Sundays. Prime usually has much larger selection than Maruna and better service levels.

Jimmy Boy 99

10-27-24, 17:37

I believe that Bahamas (boate) is open on Sunday.

That's the smartest way. If she starts the encounter by insulting you, it's probably not going to be good. I generally don't ask for her price. Doing that invites her to throw out a high number. I've found it's better to just say this is how much I'll give you and that's it.Clinica Miruna, Clinica Moema Prime, Clinica Yankin, Indy Massagem, Clinica Reserva Lux, Clinica Nova Ceci are all open today. Check gp-guia.net for info on them.

Jimmy Boy 99

10-27-24, 17:40

One quick personal observation, when I get quoted a ridiculous price I walk away. I never got anything good out of renegotiations in such a scenario. Negotiations inside the standard parameters are ok but if someone wants to take you for a ride, this tells it all IMHO.

Quick question 700 entrance fee? Was it not 300 before 19:00 and 500 thereafter (partially consumable)?

On the ground and will hit Scandallo Tuesday, as today it's closed and Monday seems to be a bad day too?

FA.It was 700 because of a special event, an appearance by some apparently famous singer. Non-event entrance fee is as you described.

Turgid

10-27-24, 19:14

.......First Bia (was an absolute 10, rock hard body, pretty, amazing ass and shapely A / be cups. But all professional. No kissing, little touching, very short BJ but lots of hand action. Looks 10, performance 5. Nothing of the Brazilian fire and sensuality I encountered before......Was she very young? The worst service I've gotten in Brazil have all been 19/20 yr old Brazilian girls.

Knowledge

10-27-24, 19:27

Abbobora always has a few above average looking girls. All in all I don't think it's worth their fee that is double to triple other nearby clinicas. I left the place behind after the last time I was there a girl tried to charge me extra for a second pop. To be fair, I think it's more justifiable if your value nicer linens, reception area, and getting a free toothbrush. Those are nice to have but they aren't my motivations.

First time in Brasil, so if I bore the old hands please forgive me.

Hit up Abbabaro Saturday afternoon, completely jetlagged but you only live once, right?

You need to know the address, go inside the long corridor, first door on the right. Say Hi and sit down somewhere. It was full of local punters and when I started to wonder the magic started. Well or just their way of doing things. One girl comes, greets each punter (who has to get up or she has to bow down, quite a scene) and mumbles her name, not always understandable and then vanishes. This goes on and on. After a girl I liked showed up the second time I just got up and told reception her name. That was apparently correct as she led me to the hotel, where you pay 150 for the room, the girls rate increased to 250, sigh.

Rooms are functional brothel rooms, you chosen one leads you there and while you shower she makes the bed, then she showers alone too. Not my preferred way but here we go. Bia (was an absolute 10, rock hard body, pretty, amazing ass and shapely A / be cups. But all professional. No kissing, little touching, very short BJ but lots of hand action. Looks 10, performance 5. Nothing of the Brazilian fire and sensuality I encountered before. So for that price pretty expensive.

WIR? Not really. Regarding transportation you can walk 10 minutes to Ibirapuera shopping, there is also a subway station. Not recommended in the night I would say.

Steve 9696

10-27-24, 20:04

First time in Brasil, so if I bore the old hands please forgive me.

Hit up Abbabaro Saturday afternoon, completely jetlagged but you only live once, right?

You need to know the address, go inside the long corridor, first door on the right. Say Hi and sit down somewhere. It was full of local punters and when I started to wonder the magic started. Well or just their way of doing things. One girl comes, greets each punter (who has to get up or she has to bow down, quite a scene) and mumbles her name, not always understandable and then vanishes. This goes on and on. After a girl I liked showed up the second time I just got up and told reception her name. That was apparently correct as she led me to the hotel, where you pay 150 for the room, the girls rate increased to 250, sigh.

Rooms are functional brothel rooms, you chosen one leads you there and while you shower she makes the bed, then she showers alone too. Not my preferred way but here we go. Bia (was an absolute 10, rock hard body, pretty, amazing ass and shapely A / be cups. But all professional. No kissing, little touching, very short BJ but lots of hand action. Looks 10, performance 5. Nothing of the Brazilian fire and sensuality I encountered before. So for that price pretty expensive.

WIR? Not really. Regarding transportation you can walk 10 minutes to Ibirapuera shopping, there is also a subway station. Not recommended in the night I would say.

FA.

Today is Sunday, I found one CLnica that is open Tangara but no experience reports, any thoughts? Or other possibilities?Casarao is open tonight. Prob very slow and don't go before 11 PM but u might find a gem and entry is cheap so why not?

RamDavidson84

10-27-24, 22:59

After doing some research on a few different destinations I have decided on a 2 week end of year trip to Sao Paulo. I hate the price, but hopefully the talent will justify it. That being said I have researched the forum but I still must clarify some questions and if I take heat for it, LOL trust me I am used to it from the shit show that is ISG.

Can anyone elaborate on the the differences between a boate, a terma, and a clinica?

Here is my understanding at the moment.

Boate: night club with freelancers and pros, may or may not have rooms on site. Most expensive.

Terma: Day time bar with freelancers and a possible lineup to choose from. Brothel type set up with rooms for rent. Can also get massages? Mid tier pricing.

Clinica: Massage Spa, can only choose from a line up. Cheapest pricing.

As always I will leave data filled detailed report of my scientific analysis of Sao Paulo monger scene once my quest has been fulfilled.

FernandoAlonso

10-27-24, 23:25

Big thanks to all of your quick answers but as I did not manage to get a local SIM card (they are obsessed with CPF and pets here but no relation I believe) I read them after I was back from today's adventure. As the rain destroyed my sightseeing I took one for the team and tried Tangará located in. You guessed it right. Are. Tangara, #200. A 15 minute walk from Ana Rosa metro if you like me can only use Uber on my company phone restricting too obvious locations. And best of it Metro was free today! Had a lengthy discussion with the ticket sales lady, she in Portuguese, I in I do not understand why you not give me a ticket for my money LOL. So I saved a whopping 10 Reais! Spend it on surprisingly good Lebanese fast food close to the metro station. Made immediately friends by choosing Arunacar over Pepsi.

CLínica tangara is 100% local and the nicest thing about it is the wall around it (not kidding, see for yourself). Looks really impressive. Inside it's a dump but with a very friendly mama and a gem. It might not be yours as pretty inexperienced but she clicked my buttons. And for 200 for an hour who can complain? Lots of local punters sitting in the reception area similar like Abbobora. Maybe waiting for Giselle, she is single these days. I was sent to the ladies staging area for some reason. And immediately found what I wanted. The other ladies were terrible in number (4 or 5, maybe the rest was busy) and looks (a solid 3 in average). You get a room number card and go there together. Glass shower but everything rather rudimentary. Paying is afterwards. They call every 30 minutes to ensure you keep the time, 30 minutes is 150. My lady was very much given me the reigns and was happy with a 1 hour session and a generous tip. I might return but only for my gem. Maybe they have a better selection in weekdays and are open until 22:00.

FernandoAlonso

10-27-24, 23:28

Casarao is open tonight. Prob very slow and don't go before 11 PM but u might find a gem and entry is cheap so why not?Thanks Steve! I will be deep asleep from jet lag by then, still on Asian time.

FernandoAlonso

10-27-24, 23:29

FernandoAlonso

10-27-24, 23:36

Was she very young? The worst service I've gotten in Brazil have all been 19/20 yr old Brazilian girls.I would put her in the mid to late 20 bracket but she could be older. Difficult to tell with the athletic ones. She is way above average looking and knows it. So she will get enough customers. To be clear it was not a bad session, just not what I expect for that price. Some GFE is a must (on a fun note I was once asked to teach a new girl GFE, that was fun but in Asia). Steve knows where, it is his favourite place in our favourite city. I would actually compare Bia to his favourite there, which I find average due to being too professional but on the other hand isn't it good we all have different tastes?

Knowledge

10-28-24, 17:40

I quite like Tangara and the nearby similar spot Yankin. They are on the mid to lower end of the price spectrum. Like any venue, the staffing quality will vary day to day and the best girls are going to be busy in a session or reserved. This is especially true on weekends. If you are like me and can't usually be bothered reserving girls, the best way to get a good selection is to arrive early, as in within half an hour of opening time. The reason you see so many local punters hanging around is many of them make a day of it, especially on the weekends. They hang out and drink while they wait for they favorite girls show up or free up. The afternoon shift starts around 3 pm. Brazilians will wait around and shoot the shit with the reception desk and the girls until the second shift starts to arrive. If you are more organized than me you can check the daily lineup the spots publish on their whatsapp status and schedule a session by whatsapp or telephone. You can see reliable and detailed reviews for the girls on gpguia and use the data to guide your selection. I always get better results when I do the research but I can't seem to keep my lazy ass motivated enough to do it.

Big thanks to all of your quick answers but as I did not manage to get a local SIM card (they are obsessed with CPF and pets here but no relation I believe) I read them after I was back from today's adventure. As the rain destroyed my sightseeing I took one for the team and tried Tangar located in. You guessed it right. Are. Tangara, #200. A 15 minute walk from Ana Rosa metro if you like me can only use Uber on my company phone restricting too obvious locations. And best of it Metro was free today! Had a lengthy discussion with the ticket sales lady, she in Portuguese, I in I do not understand why you not give me a ticket for my money LOL. So I saved a whopping 10 Reais! Spend it on surprisingly good Lebanese fast food close to the metro station. Made immediately friends by choosing Arunacar over Pepsi.

CLnica tangara is 100% local and the nicest thing about it is the wall around it (not kidding, see for yourself). Looks really impressive. Inside it's a dump but with a very friendly mama and a gem. It might not be yours as pretty inexperienced but she clicked my buttons. And for 200 for an hour who can complain? Lots of local punters sitting in the reception area similar like Abbobora. Maybe waiting for Giselle, she is single these days. I was sent to the ladies staging area for some reason. And immediately found what I wanted. The other ladies were terrible in number (4 or 5, maybe the rest was busy) and looks (a solid 3 in average). You get a room number card and go there together. Glass shower but everything rather rudimentary. Paying is afterwards. They call every 30 minutes to ensure you keep the time, 30 minutes is 150. My lady was very much given me the reigns and was happy with a 1 hour session and a generous tip. I might return but only for my gem. Maybe they have a better selection in weekdays and are open until 22:00.

Nounce

10-29-24, 00:33

After doing some research on a few different destinations I have decided on a 2 week end of year trip to Sao Paulo. The price of each type has a range. Boate is not necessary the most expensive and the clinica is not the cheapest. Most boates have room on site. There is no terma in SP. They are only in Rio and it is not specific to day time. 4 x4 opens to after midnight. Terma is fixed price.

HiddenEye

10-29-24, 01:42

So the SD fell in love with the working girl and tracked you down hahahaha That's very exciting. F*ng her while the SD is around the block hahahaha nice.

When I see the pictures of the girls I took, now married with children, or married, I feel very happy. This attached girl from Scandallo for example, is now married to a german guy and enjoying the oktoberfest. I do not attach the pic from her insta because there is a big chance the guy is member of the forum.

That ass was a crazy thing to ride.

I reconnected with a girl recently. She is pregnant and will give birth soon. She is like a long lost love. She is a sugar baby, not mine. Before she had a very wealthy SD that supported her whole family. He was generous to her and did not need much sex but wanted have a child with her so they had been trying. He tried to control her so he did not give her cash to spend. That is where I came in. He put a tracker on her iPhone and tracked her to my apartment and we met. LOL. She could even hear the car of her SD driving around my apartment and was nervous at the time. Now she is pregnant with another SD and is very happy.

Turgid

10-29-24, 17:50

Its been a long while since I last heard about clinica Brooklin. Any idea what's happening there?

FernandoAlonso

10-30-24, 02:58

Made it today and have mixed feelings.

First of all it is a must see. A bucket list thing. Something I never experienced before. It is a beautiful nightclub, top notch and with girls, girls, girls from classic dressed to straight out of a porn movie. And the food is excellent as is the service. Well the food service. And here the mixed starts. Took a girl who ticked all my boxes. 1 k. Strangely enough you pay the girl upfront at the hotel but the room afterwards (not sure if you need pay more if you stay longer as an hour). Room cashier was visibly disappointed to be paid in cash, no chance for the credit card up charges, sorry guys. Also the entrance fee is paid just before leaving, not sure that also applies after 7 pm as I arrived just before that time. For a first visit this is a good thing as it is quite empty and you can easily explore the place which gets difficult later as there are girls EVERYWHERE.

My girl, I believe Amanda was a disaster, smaller cutie who spoke some English and was very affectionate in the beginning but in the room a total disaster. Only CBJ which first she could not do because she said I cannot put on the condom yet. Well, surprise, surprise you have to put him in the state where that is possible and that is part of your job description. Well we solved that problem but then she just jumped on without the announced BJ. Touching her V with fingers was not allowed, fingers have bacteria but DATY was kind of ok. Well she fake orgasmed after about 3 seconds. Also during the deed fake moaning even she was doing everything to limit penetration to 1 to 2 cm if that many. Worse than the Abbobora girl and that for this amount of money. She wanted me to invite her for dinner afterwards and even came back a second time while I was seated in the restaurant and asked again. While I had made my dissatisfaction very clear.

Had a nice conversation with an ambitious and upcoming model (really, I have her instagram) that sat at the next table but she asked 2 k which I did not have anymore and 5 k for takeout. She was cute and my type but no way.

All in all I was not overwhelmed by the girl quality. Lots of silicon, revealing or almost no clothes and too much make up and a few real stunners. But the majority was not that different from the clinic girls I saw. Just better dressed and made up. But comparing the 200 versus the minimum 1300 in cost there is no real argument why one should go there. Especially if there is such a high risk for terrible performance and you have no possibility to launch a complaint.

A little bit like the good old Maggies when it was blooming: overhyped but too much average but the prices were 100 bucks. For the whole night. Brix is way better in looks and service wise even OT beats Scandallo by a huge margin.

So far I had a good time in Brasil but honestly I do nOt understand where the hype comes from. Brazilian passion? Nowhere to be found so far. And really expensive. WIR? Unlikely for both Scandallo and Brazil. Not worth it for me.

Knowledge

10-30-24, 03:43

I was there a couple of months ago. It's the same as it always was. The rooms could use a bit of freshening up and it's nice that they give you a beer or soft drink. There are a couple of girls there I like. It's usually a one and done per trip when I want to break up the routine of Vila Mariana clinicas. Check gpguia for details. It really is a reliable source of up to date information.

Its been a long while since I last heard about clinica Brooklin. Any idea what's happening there?

Combo

10-30-24, 03:55

RamDavidson84

10-30-24, 04:57

Made it today and have mixed feelings.

All in all I was not overwhelmed by the girl quality. Lots of silicon, revealing or almost no clothes and too much make up and a few real stunners. But the majority was not that different from the clinic girls I saw. Just better dressed and made up. But comparing the 200 versus the minimum 1300 in cost there is no real argument why one should go there. Especially if there is such a high risk for terrible performance and you have no possibility to launch a complaint.

A little bit like the good old Maggies when it was blooming: overhyped but too much average but the prices were 100 bucks. For the whole night. Brix is way better in looks and service wise even OT beats Scandallo by a huge margin.

So far I had a good time in Brasil but honestly I do nOt understand where the hype comes from. Brazilian passion? Nowhere to be found so far. And really expensive. WIR? Unlikely for both Scandallo and Brazil. Not worth it for me.Well that's depressing to read. Maybe the chick felt she got low balled at 1 k?

SamaRiding

10-30-24, 05:18

Made it today and have mixed feelings.

So far I had a good time in Brasil but honestly I do nOt understand where the hype comes from. Brazilian passion? Nowhere to be found so far. And really expensive. WIR? Unlikely for both Scandallo and Brazil. Not worth it for me.Do you like to clinica / bar hop? I think that's where the sweet spot is in SP. The moema clinicas and Tangara / yankin axis. The price is right that I just brush it off if I find a dud and look for another girl. It does require a lot of hopping. At night I like casarao vibe. I know they get hyped on this forum but Abbobora and scandallo are both of my least visited venues. My girl type is younger thin girls also, and not the typical T&A Brazilian desire.

SamaRiding

10-30-24, 05:26

Its been a long while since I last heard about clinica Brooklin. Any idea what's happening there?I haven't been in awhile but I have their WhatsApp status and seems to be going as usual. They have a decent number of girls daily though none that have interested me to make a trip to them.

SamaRiding

10-30-24, 05:45

CLnica tangara is 100% local and the nicest thing about it is the wall around it (not kidding, see for yourself). Looks really impressive. Inside it's a dump but with a very friendly mama and a gem. It might not be yours as pretty inexperienced but she clicked my buttons. And for 200 for an hour who can complain? Lots of local punters sitting in the reception area similar like Abbobora. Maybe waiting for Giselle, she is single these days. I was sent to the ladies staging area for some reason. And immediately found what I wanted. The other ladies were terrible in number (4 or 5, maybe the rest was busy) and looks (a solid 3 in average). You get a room number card and go there together. Glass shower but everything rather rudimentary. Paying is afterwards. They call every 30 minutes to ensure you keep the time, 30 minutes is 150. My lady was very much given me the reigns and was happy with a 1 hour session and a generous tip. I might return but only for my gem. Maybe they have a better selection in weekdays and are open until 22:00.Tangara girl roster is 20-30 girls throughout the day. You only get to see a few at a time, the rest are busy. You have reserve a girl or wait around like the other guys. A few nice young thin girls. I usually reserve since I get bored waiting around. Clinica Yankin is the same. They call after 30 minutes if you don't tell ahead that you want one hour or more. Open until 22 but really dies off at the end of the night. I also got sent to the ladies staging room my first time there, maybe that's where they send the newbie foreign guys to better see the girls? Also most guys don't tip in clinicas. I don't either unless there is an extra provided.

Messiah69

10-30-24, 09:55

So far I had a good time in Brasil but honestly I do nOt understand where the hype comes from. Brazilian passion? Nowhere to be found so far. And really expensive. WIR? Unlikely for both Scandallo and Brazil. Not worth it for me.I spent 6 months straight in Sao Paulo during the pandemic. Scandallo was open, then they closed, and then only Connections was open.

Now I only go to Casarao when in town (I can't afford Scandallo all the time.). Or go to Scandallo to get numbers. Because it's such a nice place.

I've spent another 6 months in Sao Paulo sporadically since then.

I was "engaged" to one of the girls from Scandallo at a time. (as girls in the business usually do, she went back to the bar.) she was clearly one of the hottest back then.

But I concur with your point on their looks. In the sense that outside of Scandallo. She was pretty much like anyone else.

If you've ever spent time at high level strip joints (in Tokyo for example). These girls look out of this world on premises with their make-up, the lights and the atmosphere.

But the minute you get them outside in their regular clothes. They look alright. But whatever it was that made you decide to fork out 2 Kreais in the first place disappears.

In my first couple of months in Brazil, the girls were superficially nice. But then would not give any more than the mechanical "everything covered" sex. And you could always.

Tell they were working. No real passion for you or connection with you.

But after a while, when you start to learn to speak the language (at least enough within the bar scenario). And you start to become familiar with their cultural nuances. They tend to.

Open up way more.

At this point 80% of my sessions are BB. I usually just pass on the strict ones that insist on covered sex. Because I usually have other excellent options.

The important thing is to be able to connect with the girls to some extent. Girls need some mental stimulation to perform.

I frequent Casarao and maybe Bomboa the most. The girls in Scandallo, no matter how ugly tend to hang on to the belief that they can get 1 to 2 K per session. Ridiculous.

In Casarao you find 10 out of 50 girls attractive. In Scandallo. 50 out of 200. The question is how many can you fuck in a night.

The option for 30 minutes at Casarao for half the price is a winner for me. There are girls I've met and had at Casarao that have made me wonder why they're at Casarao.

I would say. Give it some time, to understand their culture. Learn the language at least enough to be able to hold a converstaion with the girls in the bar without bringing out a translator.

Brazilian women very DEFINITELY have a preference for their own men. And usually can't see beyond their own cultural bubble. As a matter of fact. I would say marrying one of them is usually a bad idea, as they're more than likely going to cheat on you once they a find a Brazilian. It's just the way they are. I'm not saying all of them. But most of them would (. Ask Tom Brady!

The reason I keep going back to Brazil is. The women seem to have this mystique about them. That I find sexier than any other race of women.

Other than that. They're no different from anyone else.

FernandoAlonso

10-30-24, 11:03

Sorry to read this. In my travels for this hobby, Brasilian women have consistently been the most passionate and wild of any country. That you had two duds w / in a few days is odd.Agree, but to be clear only the Scandallo one was a total disaster. Abbobora lady delivered at least technically however for me too professional, so not a total dud. From a low end Clinica I do not expect a GFE so those were both good experiences. However comparing it to my experiences in Asia, even in German FKK I found the hypothesis that Brazilian girls are passionate and wild so far not proven. Will keep trying. My 5 k Scandallo model girl tried calling me in the middle of the night, business was maybe bad or she sincerely is in love with me (just kidding).

FYI today is a live concert, so entry should be 700, they also wrote something about reservation needed but that might be just for the tables in front of the stage? Oh and formula 1 is in town until Sunday further hiking prices.

FA.

Nounce

10-30-24, 12:30

Made it today and have mixed feelings.I think you need to do a better job interviewing girls. You can ask to speak to the girl at clinica to make sure she will provide the service you need. You give away your power if you don't do that.

Scandallo is a different animal altogether. I usually spend quite a bit of time with the girl before taking her to the room. You will enjoy it more if you like the setup and it is not for everyone. You don't want to play Scandallo the same way that you play at Casarao or clinica.

Also, what you heard or read are legacy. Time has changed.

Nounce

10-30-24, 12:40

So the SD fell in love with the working girl and tracked you down hahahaha That's very exciting. F*ng her while the SD is around the block hahahaha nice.

When I see the pictures of the girls I took, now married with children, or married, I feel very happy. This attached girl from Scandallo for example, is now married to a german guy and enjoying the oktoberfest. I do not attach the pic from her insta because there is a big chance the guy is member of the forum.

That ass was a crazy thing to ride.I think the man wanted to have a family. The girl would ask to come to see me before going to SD to spend the night. She said they barely had sex. The SD was pretty generous but just did not give her spending money. He supported her whole family, her study and that was the reason she could not leave him. Her best friend wanted to see the ocean. He flied both of them to an island where he owns a beach front property, and he only met with them during dinner.

When I met the girl, she was 19 and she already was with the SD for more than 2 years.

Nounce

10-30-24, 12:42

Its been a long while since I last heard about clinica Brooklin. Any idea what's happening there?They moved a few years ago, and it is kind of far.

Vagabundo1

10-30-24, 14:08

Where is it?

They moved a few years ago, and it is kind of far.

Turgid

10-30-24, 14:25

......My girl, I believe Amanda was a disaster...... Touching her V with fingers was not allowed, fingers have bacteria but DATY was kind of ok. Well she fake orgasmed after about 3 seconds. Also during the deed fake moaning even she was doing everything to limit penetration to 1 to 2 cm if that many.........Too many reports of subpar performances in Brazil lately. That's not the Brazil I know. Planning a visit for next year, will see for myself.

Axel Heyst

10-30-24, 15:59

Too many reports of subpar performances in Brazil lately. That's not the Brazil I know. Planning a visit for next year, will see for myself.Yeah, too many factors can affect a given girl's performance with an individual punter or two or three to reach any definitive, let alone, statistically valid conclusions. I will be in SP next week and I will see what I see, experience what I experience. I am looking forward to my next visit and I expect things will be great, but no matter what, I will report the good, the bad, and the fugly.

Explorer8939

10-30-24, 17:34

I went to Sao Paulo years ago, and ran into Japanese ladies in the clinicas.

I will coming back shortly, and am hoping there are still some available.

The Cane

10-30-24, 17:56

Too many reports of subpar performances in Brazil lately. That's not the Brazil I know. Planning a visit for next year, will see for myself.And totally hoping it's not true. I do believe the stupid money that's being asked for at Scandallo though. Hey, they're stupid enough to ask if somebody is stupid enough to pay it!

PepolesBuddy

10-30-24, 18:17

Howdy,

I usually stick with the sugar baby route on seeking or other dating platforms. But I do have a few questions.

What's the range of prices for the sugar babies?

What are the names of mid tier level strip clubs?

Any good swinger clubs in Sao Paulo? If so what are the top 2? And entry fees? Thanks!

Also, where to buy ecstasy / MD and how much on average?

Thanks!

Knowledge

10-30-24, 22:18

It's not true in my case but then I don't fuck with Scandallo.

And totally hoping it's not true. I do believe the stupid money that's being asked for at Scandallo though. Hey, they're stupid enough to ask if somebody is stupid enough to pay it!

FernandoAlonso

10-31-24, 00:39

I think you need to do a better job interviewing girls. You can ask to speak to the girl at clinica to make sure she will provide the service you need. You give away your power if you don't do that.

Scandallo is a different animal altogether. I usually spend quite a bit of time with the girl before taking her to the room. You will enjoy it more if you like the setup and it is not for everyone. You don't want to play Scandallo the same way that you play at Casarao or clinica.

Also, what you heard or read are legacy. Time has changed.I did the interview thing. Unfortunately they spoke really terrible English. And yes I spent time before agreeing to a room, I always do unless it is a repeat or a total stunner that is now or never. Both not the case here. We'll visit number 2 is tonight. Let's hope the stars will align.

Jimmy Boy 99

10-31-24, 02:18

Where is it?Clinica Brooklin. Av. Professor Vicente Raó, 1656- Brooklin Novo.

There is also another one about 100 feet from it.

Unique SPA. Rua Miranda Guerra, 1052 - Brooklin Novo.

Knowledge

10-31-24, 03:24

I've been to both. Unique's space is a couple of steps below Brooklin's. During my only visit to Unique, I was surprised to see a girl in their line up I had been with the day before at Miruna. They get around.

Clinica Brooklin. Av. Professor Vicente Ra, 1656- Brooklin Novo.

There is also another one about 100 feet from it.

Unique SPA. Rua Miranda Guerra, 1052 - Brooklin Novo.

Combo

10-31-24, 03:40

I did the interview thing. Unfortunately they spoke really terrible English. And yes I spent time before agreeing to a room, I always do unless it is a repeat or a total stunner that is now or never. Both not the case here. We'll visit number 2 is tonight. Let's hope the stars will align.This close to Formula 1 you might be screwed. I suspect the women are going to be asking ridiculous prices. You might be better off going to Casarao.

Lalabo

10-31-24, 05:27

I went to Sao Paulo years ago, and ran into Japanese ladies in the clinicas.

I will coming back shortly, and am hoping there are still some available.I have not seen any Japanese in Moema clinicas. Yankin, maybe a candidate based on what I read on this forum or some secret places I am not aware of.

TheVirgin

10-31-24, 06:01

I went to Sao Paulo years ago, and ran into Japanese ladies in the clinicas.

I will coming back shortly, and am hoping there are still some available.At scandallo two weeks ago, they were rare, but did exist. I saw 2 Asian garotas during my two week trip. One was of Japanese descent, the other may have been Chinese, but more likely Japanese One was there consistently, the other was there sporadicly.

Lalabo

10-31-24, 06:19

Too many reports of subpar performances in Brazil lately. That's not the Brazil I know. Planning a visit for next year, will see for myself.Considering that infestations spread, I hope the CBJ infestation didn't spread to Scandallo. I don't think that is that case. In any case, I will add few more data points in support of against soon.

UniversalX

10-31-24, 08:47

And totally hoping it's not true. I do believe the stupid money that's being asked for at Scandallo though. Hey, they're stupid enough to ask if somebody is stupid enough to pay it!Given all you know (actual experience and reading reports) regarding Scandallo what do you feel is a good range if they asked you would pay?

The Cane

10-31-24, 12:13

Given all you know (actual experience and reading reports) regarding Scandallo what do you feel is a good range if they asked you would pay?Given the current exchange rate, I would try to be somewhere around 1,000 reals max.

Nounce

10-31-24, 12:59

Too many reports of subpar performances in Brazil lately. That's not the Brazil I know. Planning a visit for next year, will see for myself.I think one needs to look at it a different way. Comparing casa to casa to Colombia, you won't get the same level of service by default in Colombia of what you get in Brazil on average. That is why Brazil is much better service wise. Then you have to compare club to club, it will likely to be the same.

100% or something close to it is a myth based on the date and the percentage data in the attached images from GPG.

One has to read the reviews by taking into consideration of the poster's posting style and preference.

Turgid

10-31-24, 19:48

I think one needs to look at it a different way. Comparing casa to casa to Colombia, you won't get the same level of service by default in Colombia of what you get in Brazil on average. That is why Brazil is much better service wise. Then you have to compare club to club, it will likely to be the same.

100% or something close to it is a myth based on the date and the percentage data in the attached images from GPG.

One has to read the reviews by taking into consideration of the poster's posting style and preference.My experience has been that Brazil is best service wise in the world with El Salvador and Argentina close behind. Colombia, where I am now, is pretty good. This trip started off poorly service wise but, to my great relief, has improved markedly. The quality of casa chicas has declined compared to my last trip in 2019 but I am still enjoying myself as I am here for a month and visit many casas before I choose the best girl for a particular day. I am thinking Brazil still has the best quality, as well, in Latin America.

FernandoAlonso

11-01-24, 01:15

Considering that infestations spread, I hope the CBJ infestation didn't spread to Scandallo. I don't think that is that case. In any case, I will add few more data points in support of against soon.There are girls insisting on it now. Big party yesterday with tons of girls. Not sure about pricing as I had a pre arranged 2 k all night deal. And the Uber guy cheated me claiming he was not paid the cash I gave him.

FernandoAlonso

11-01-24, 01:18

FernandoAlonso

11-01-24, 01:23

Given all you know (actual experience and reading reports) regarding Scandallo what do you feel is a good range if they asked you would pay?In my (limited) experience 1000 is possible but the absolute minimum not everyone (I would even say few) will accept.

FernandoAlonso

11-01-24, 01:30

The Palms is a higher end Clinica in Villa Olimpia, which makes it traffic wise a nightmare. It has a beautiful garden like lay out with single huts. Prices have been raised to 450 to the house and 350 for the therapist. So one of the more expensive options. Choice of girl from heavily photoshopped iPad pictures, ladies appeared a little older and with sillys. You need wait quite a while for the lady to show up but can use that time for shower etc. Service was top notch, very professional but not really affectionate. It starts with a short massage, uncovered BJ and then different positions. One of the better sessions of this trip.

The Cane

11-01-24, 03:41

In my (limited) experience 1000 is possible but the absolute minimum not everyone (I would even say few) will accept.I would be willing to go to 1,200 but that's it.

Bearsi

11-01-24, 05:01

I was not aware of this but the girls at Scandallo are under contract. I do not believe they get paid, in contrary they have to pay if they violate the rules like showing up late or not working at least 5 days per week (not sure how that works when they are on their period). Anyone heard similar?They have to show up 4 times a week (maybe 5 now, heard it's 5 too but seems like a lot) or else they are required to pay 300 BRL to enter.

They also have to show up before 10 pm for the evening shift and can't leave until 2 am or later or they pay a fine of 300 BRL unless some guy pays for their exit.

Most of these girls have purses with them so they are charged 30 BRL to store it.

If they have a car I think it's another 50 BRL.

They only get free water by the bar area in the restaurant section and if they want to eat they have to pay a discounted fee of 50 BRL or so between some fish or meat dish.

In total they have to pay about 400 BRL with everything because they usually eat something or get a drink or smoke with their friends.

I recall it used to be alot less back in 2021.

If they missed a day or were late they were only charged 150 BRL.

Purse and food prices were about the same.

So that's why back in 2021 you can land a chick for 500 BRL.

They could net 300 BRL or so.

Now they would only net 100 BRL if that and at that point its almost like working at a supermarket.

Just came back from a trip and will write my tale but the minimum was 1 K for an hour.

I'm sure it's possible to get 700-800 BRL but I highly doubt you can get much lower than that.

Vagabundo1

11-01-24, 06:13

Vagabundo1

11-01-24, 12:53

That is Asa Akira, for you uncultured folks who do not have her Japanese features imprinted into your brains. Since my Asian family, which includes Borneo Man, who was reading and writing deuteronomy with the original Rabbi big swinging uncut cock, took great pleasure in killing Japanese by the city in World War II, it is simply a matter of genetics that I should want to stuff my German Italian converted spinozite Jewish bratwurst which is uncircumcized due to my having an annual bar mitz vah every November late in life and being a bad mother fucker and not allowing any Jew with a knife near my dick as an adult into as many sweet and sour hot tight Japanese as possible since we fried them by the 100,000 with Little Boy and Fat Man, after which the aliens came down, but there are not aliens, only Brazilians, and Rio is its own planet, and so is Sao Paulo, and the one thing that Rio lacks is enough hot assed Japanese pussy that will let Vagabundo machine gun their precious fertile eggs with another sperm.

I'm looking for any asa akira quality japanese girls as I am half Asian, and it's a genetic thing for many of we fellow Asians. I tried to get Asa Akira's number once at AVN in Vegas with the predictable result.

I need to get on that bus to SP from Novo Rodoviara again. Anyone else doing RJ to SP or vice versa via bus looking for a wingman for a 3-7 day trip please send me a PM and join Vagabundo's SP RJ whatsapp group! Also send a PM to Senor Nounce who is a mod too.

FernandoAlonso

11-01-24, 12:57

They have to show up 4 times a week (maybe 5 now, heard it's 5 too but seems like a lot) or else they are required to pay 300 BRL to enter.

They also have to show up before 10 pm for the evening shift and can't leave until 2 am or later or they pay a fine of 300 BRL unless some guy pays for their exit.

Most of these girls have purses with them so they are charged 30 BRL to store it.

If they have a car I think it's another 50 BRL.

They only get free water by the bar area in the restaurant section and if they want to eat they have to pay a discounted fee of 50 BRL or so between some fish or meat dish.

In total they have to pay about 400 BRL with everything because they usually eat something or get a drink or smoke with their friends.

I recall it used to be alot less back in 2021.

If they missed a day or were late they were only charged 150 BRL.

Purse and food prices were about the same.

So that's why back in 2021 you can land a chick for 500 BRL.

They could net 300 BRL or so.

Now they would only net 100 BRL if that and at that point its almost like working at a supermarket.

Just came back from a trip and will write my tale but the minimum was 1 K for an hour.

I'm sure it's possible to get 700-800 BRL but I highly doubt you can get much lower than that.Late arrival fee is now 360 and I paid the 300 leave fee after 2 am (but as a friend of hers left same time there might be a difference and they found another way to milk gringos LOL) which makes sense from the Bars Point of view but the place was packed that you could hardly walk while there was a line at taxi with couples for the night leaving. It is indeed an amazing place.

Axel Heyst

11-01-24, 13:05

I'm looking for any asa akira quality japanese girls as I am half Asian, and it's a genetic thing for many of we fellow Asians. I tried to get Asa Akira's number once at AVN in Vegas with the predictable result.

I need to get on that bus to SP from Novo Rodoviara again. Anyone else doing RJ to SP or vice versa via bus looking for a wingman for a 3-7 day trip please send me a PM and join Vagabundo's SP RJ whatsapp group! Also send a PM to Senor Nounce who is a mod too.Vagabundo, I have met and done a handful of Japanese Brazilian girls in Scandallo, Bomboa, and the Palms clinica. (All very pricey venues.) The sex with my sample of Japanese, Brazilian girls was good, but nothing extraordinary or to write home about. So, IMHO, Sao Paulo Brazilian gals do not compare with the Japanese, Japanese girls I have met and done in Yokohama, HKG and Macau. The latter were special! Why?

1st, the body type is totally different. Japanese, Japanese girls are generally slender and very soft to the touch. Brazilian Japanese girls have bodies similar to other Brazilian girls due to the local diet and their weekly exercise routine.

2nd, Japanese, Japanese girls personality wise are unbelievably and uniquely demure in the bedroom. All punters should experience this "Geisha" style performance at least one in their sporting life. My suggestion is: go to Yokohama, enjoy the food, and the girls. Japanese, Brazilian girls have nice personalities, but their personalities are more or less the same as most other Brazilian girls.

As a result, I put no special emphasis on doing Japanese, Brazilian girls. If I spot an attractive one in Scandallo or Bomboa, I might buy her a drink and give her an interview or I might just keep looking. They are no big deal.

Axel Heyst

11-01-24, 13:19

Vagabundo, I tried to send you a personal message and an invitation, but your email box is full. I will try again later this afternoon or tomorrow.

A. H.

Gordon987

11-01-24, 16:17

PepolesBuddy

11-01-24, 17:08

Howdy everyone,

1) generally what's the price range of girls on seeking.

2) what are the top two swinger clubs in São Paulo?

3) is there a club similar to Fas dos from Medellin that's in São Paulo? I am not looking for the most high end strip club but I would like to go to a decent one with pretty girls.

Axel Heyst

11-01-24, 18:32

There was not a lineup for you to choose the actual girl? I thought Clinicas usually offer lineup?

And did you try Sharon Premium or Lushness, which may be on the highest end of Clinicas?Unlike all the "regular" SP clinicas, none of the "upscale" clinicas that I am familiar with like the Palms, Sharon, Taj Mahal, and Lotus Lounge offer their customers a lineup. All you get to see are photoshopped images of their available girls on a laptop. I once asked the manager of the Palms why no lineups and he told me the purpose was to keep everything very private and hush hush by hiding the identity of repeat customers from the girls at large, and thus to avoid any petty jealousies. I have never been to Lushness.

Gordon987

11-01-24, 23:18

Unlike all the "regular" SP clinicas, none of the "upscale" clinicas that I am familiar with like the Palms, Sharon, Taj Mahal, and Lotus Lounge offer their customers a lineup. All you get to see are photoshopped images of their available girls on a laptop. I once asked the manager of the Palms why no lineups and he told me the purpose was to keep everything very private and hush hush by hiding the identity of repeat customers from the girls at large, and thus to avoid any petty jealousies. I have never been to Lushness.Thanks for the info. So for those photoshopped images, how accurate would you say? Do they at least provide meaningful guidance for you to pick girls?

Bearsi

11-02-24, 00:55

Late arrival fee is now 360 and I paid the 300 leave fee after 2 am (but as a friend of hers left same time there might be a difference and they found another way to milk gringos LOL) which makes sense from the Bars Point of view but the place was packed that you could hardly walk while there was a line at taxi with couples for the night leaving. It is indeed an amazing place.Yea sometimes the girl tells a guy to pay her food and purse fee.

Had that happen to me once and said no.

But new guys who they know right away think it's part of the exit fee and don't know better.

Bearsi

11-02-24, 00:59

I would be willing to go to 1,200 but that's it.1 K is the norm.

You're going to spend 1300 anyways when you add the room fee.

Back in 2021 if you played your cards right you could have a night in scan with a girl for an hour for a grand total of 1 K (250 entrance, 500 hour, 250 room fee).

Those were the days.

The Cane

11-02-24, 02:19

1 K is the norm. You're going to spend 1300 anyways when you add the room fee. Back in 2021 if you played your cards right you could have a night in scan with a girl for an hour for a grand total of 1 K (250 entrance, 500 hour, 250 room fee). Those were the days.I don't mind paying a consumables fee. I was going to spend money eating and drinking anyway. And the room fee is the non-negotiable room fee. Where you have room to maneuver is on what you agree to pay the girl. Any Scandallo girl quotes me 1,500 let alone 2,000, and I'm easily prepared to just walk away. As you say, it should be around 1,000 reals for an hour given the current exchange rate. Again, my absolute top offer today would be 1,200 reals. And that's final!

Tochka

11-02-24, 11:15

Vagabundo, I have met and done a handful of Japanese Brazilian girls in Scandallo, Bomboa, and the Palms clinica. (All very pricey venues.) The sex with my sample of Japanese, Brazilian girls was good, but nothing extraordinary or to write home about. So, IMHO, Sao Paulo Brazilian gals do not compare with the Japanese, Japanese girls I have met and done in Yokohama, HKG and Macau. The latter were special! Why?

1st, the body type is totally different. Japanese, Japanese girls are generally slender and very soft to the touch. Brazilian Japanese girls have bodies similar to other Brazilian girls due to the local diet and their weekly exercise routine.

2nd, Japanese, Japanese girls personality wise are unbelievably and uniquely demure in the bedroom. All punters should experience this "Geisha" style performance at least one in their sporting life. My suggestion is: go to Yokohama, enjoy the food, and the girls. Japanese, Brazilian girls have nice personalities, but their personalities are more or less the same as most other Brazilian girls.

As a result, I put no special emphasis on doing Japanese, Brazilian girls. If I spot an attractive one in Scandallo or Bomboa, I might buy her a drink and give her an interview or I might just keep looking. They are no big deal.A. H. —Good observation, spot on about Japanese Brasilian garotas.

My girlfriend and I are attracted to half japa half morena hotties. Sultry exotic face & looks with brasilian curvy body. Sometimes Saturdays nites seem to be Japanese Asian nights in Scandallo or at least my limited observation.

There is a fully submissive Japanese garota in Clinica Miruna and 57 Chanes Friends with very good English. She looks like a fvcking maths teacher wearing big ass glasses. My girlfriend has a demure twenty-three (23) year-old full japa hotties in our threesome roster. We met her in Scandallo two years ago. Nothing extraordinary in bed except she squirts a lot from sex toys and goes about her privacy for real.

My chica and I will stop during Scandallo for F1 days. Think they open this Sunday. For the F1 special week?

Bearsi

11-02-24, 18:43

I don't mind paying a consumables fee. I was going to spend money eating and drinking anyway. And the room fee is the non-negotiable room fee. Where you have room to maneuver is on what you agree to pay the girl. Any Scandallo girl quotes me 1,500 let alone 2,000, and I'm easily prepared to just walk away. As you say, it should be around 1,000 reals for an hour given the current exchange rate. Again, my absolute top offer today would be 1,200 reals. And that's final!Writing my report on Sao paulo from my trip last month and I've done a few 2 k 2-4 HR sessions at my place.

Seems the girls (or at least the girls I like) tend to want to do the longer 2 K sessions outside the club.

One girl I did an hour with I had her come over to my place for 2 k. She came around 7 pm and left my place like 1 am. We had dinner in between so that did take some time, didn't get home til 10 pm. Pretty chill.

2 girls I brought to my place from scan (one exit fee and the other I got her number) for 2 k as well.

Although the 1st girl I literally talked with her for 2 hours in the club and then another 3 hours back at my place. We didn't start fucking until 4 am which was so late but felt very organic and she wasn't watching the clock.

2nd girl was very adamant that the 2 k meant only 2 hours from the time she arrived. She was very literal and business minded but still hot and dirty. She actually went out with a gringo the night I met her at scan (I was trying to set up a threesome with her and the 1st girl who loved to talk that same night at my place) and she charged this guy 5 K reais to go out with him to a swing club with her for the night. Turns out buddy didn't specify anything else so when he went back home with her and was trying to fuck since he just wanted to see the swing club scene in SP, she told him it would be another 2 K since he didn't mentioned having sex at all and just talked about going to swing clubs and spending the night. Cold hearted and the guy slept with blue balls!

So 2 K seems to be the new standard for a good long time with a scan girl outside.

Which is pretty high and I wouldn't do it all the time. The girls all fit my type and were fun and dirty and I only come to SP once a year or so.

1 HR for 1 k or less would be the move but then they would only see you before the 8 pm shift or maybe after they leave at 2 am because they won't miss a scan night to earn only 1 K and then pay their no show fee.

Had a Bahamas club girl come over to my place for 1. 4 K for 3 hours or so. She would have stayed longer but I had more girls coming over so had to get her out.

Bahamas had a 150 no show fee so that was included in my 1. 4 k.

Seeking I met a college girl who just wanted to go out and drink and dance and then fuck.

No cash.

So pricing is definitely all over the place. It just comes down if you really want to bang the girl of your fantasy.

For me it does seem steep but no complainants for what I got.

Always good to diversify like any good portfolio.

Bearsi

11-02-24, 18:46

A.
My chica and I will stop during Scandallo for F1 days. Think they open this Sunday. For the F1 special week?Even pussy has to take a break from all those miles.

Or else it's going to look like a flat tire!

FernandoAlonso

11-02-24, 20:48

Yea sometimes the girl tells a guy to pay her food and purse fee.

Had that happen to me once and said no.

But new guys who they know right away think it's part of the exit fee and don't know better.It was not the food bill, it was extra marked as 300 VIP guest fee for the lady.

FernandoAlonso

11-02-24, 20:49

Even pussy has to take a break from all those miles.

Or else it's going to look like a flat tire!I think there was a sign at the door saying that, but could not swear to it. But yes, business will be huge and expensive that Sunday.

FernandoAlonso

11-02-24, 21:04

Gordon987

11-02-24, 21:16

Writing my report on Sao paulo from my trip last month and I've done a few 2 k 2-4 HR sessions at my place.

Seems the girls (or at least the girls I like) tend to want to do the longer 2 K sessions outside the club.

Can you take a girl out for 1. 2 k 1 HR plus pay the exit fee during regular hours (not before 8 pm or after 2 am)? Or do most girls not take this kind of offer anymore?

The Cane

11-02-24, 21:35

So my week here came to an end and while I got lucky with my Scan Model girl I stick to my original evaluation: SP is a fun place to be and it is easy to score in pretty much all price classes from say 150 Reais for half an hour at a bottom end Clinica to whatever the scan ladies can suck out of you. But I found nothing of the passionate LatAm sex I was expecting and had experienced in the past outside Brasil. Only limited kissing, mostly passive, BJs a rarity and lots of trying to get away with as little as possible. And there was little difference between Clinica's and Scandallo. Add to this the prices and the danger of being in SP I think one should be there once but for me no comparison to Thailand, China as it used to be, the Philippines etc. There are tons of girls who enjoy there job and try to please not make as much with as little effort as possible. Even in the declining German FKK scene I get regularly better service. It may sound harsh but that is my conclusion (and yes fckin a 23 year old model that is new to the job BB is fun and was just unbelievable but even there was a lot of convincement needed like I do not suck or let guys suck me. And she gets 2 k out of guys for a little HJ and 5 minutes sex). So it is unlikely I will be back as there are simply much better and cheaper options for me.

FA.Sorry you had such a subpar experience. What you describe is nothing like the Brazil I know and love. For me it's the best mongering destination in the entire world, especially if you like anal. Those little flat ass, no titties Asian girls can't compete as far as I'm concerned. I'm not trying to be provocative here, but could it have been you, and not the place? I say this because one thing I have found is that a lot of guys who are crazy about Asia don't like the Brazilian scene. It's just not for them how Asia isn't for me when it comes to mongering. But the food is good LOL!

Kib123

11-02-24, 22:25

So my week here came to an end and while I got lucky with my Scan Model girl I stick to my original evaluation: SP is a fun place to be and it is easy to score in pretty much all price classes from say 150 Reais for half an hour at a bottom end Clinica to whatever the scan ladies can suck out of you. But I found nothing of the passionate LatAm sex I was expecting and had experienced in the past outside Brasil. Only limited kissing, mostly passive, BJs a rarity and lots of trying to get away with as little as possible. And there was little difference between Clinica's and Scandallo. Add to this the prices and the danger of being in SP I think one should be there once but for me no comparison to Thailand, China as it used to be, the Philippines etc. There are tons of girls who enjoy there job and try to please not make as much with as little effort as possible. Even in the declining German FKK scene I get regularly better service. It may sound harsh but that is my conclusion (and yes fckin a 23 year old model that is new to the job BB is fun and was just unbelievable but even there was a lot of convincement needed like I do not suck or let guys suck me. And she gets 2 k out of guys for a little HJ and 5 minutes sex). So it is unlikely I will be back as there are simply much better and cheaper options for me.

FA.Thanks for the candid assessment. I know sometimes expectations can mess up our experience, but for me Brazil has been the opposite of your observation. The only place I have "fallen in love" with a hooker, at least for a day. Did you ever use gpguia? I find intel on the forum to be extremely valuable, improving the odds of getting what I am looking for by close to 90%.

Never been to S. E. Asia, so can't compare notes, but China and Japan (especially Japan for me) are up there with the best of them.