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Sao Paulo prices are outrageous. Girls seem to want more to come to your apartment than sex at the club. I exchanged $200 and it was gone after 2 girls. Other countries that's definitely 3 or 4. Africa that's probably 4 threesome LOL. El centro colombia10 girls. The most reasonable priced is the low level spas and even they out price the norm in other countries. Scandallo I met quite a few girls from Salvador Bahia. They said nice beaches. Beautiful black girls. My question if I am allowed LOL. What states in Brazil you can travel to where you can get sex under $50. If they the women can travel to get more money, I wouldn't mind doing the same to pay less money LOL.
Am I correct in assuming that the girls who want to charge more to come to your apartment than have sex at the club might be the ones from Scandello whose phone numbers you got?
$50 is possible in Sao Paulo too you just got to know where to look. It is also possible and doable all over Brazil as long as you know the language and are willing to travel to the interior.
SamaRiding
04-02-25, 00:48
Sao Paulo prices are outrageous. Girls seem to want more to come to your apartment than sex at the club. I exchanged $200 and it was gone after 2 girls. There are definitely cheaper in SP. Clinicas and boates are discussed most on this forum since that's the sweet spot for most guys who travel long distance to get to SP. You can have a quick fuck for $8 in a trash prive. Search for prive on the forum. I listed a bunch of them in a post a few month ago. It depends on your comfort level. On the higher end SP is not cheap, many girls across Brazil go to SP to work since they know they are earn more money.
I never gotten a scandallo girl to come to my apt for an 1 hour session for less than it would cost in the club. For multiple hours can get a better deal. Some guys on the forum have described some very good multi days deals.
Questions: Girl from scandallo and girl from tangara ask me if I wanted to go to hot bar. Swinger club. I decline only because I wasn't sure about the price tag going in and also if there's a price tag for the girl going with me. Like what's in it for the girl to ask me to go.I asked a few garotas in Tangara and Yankin what they could tell me about the Swinger club scene in SP. About 90% were very enthusiastic about going, quotes varied between R$150 per hour plus drinks for 3 hours, R$500 for one visit without specified time limit, and R$1000 for a visit, all included a partner exchange option.
I went twice, paid R$500+Uber each time, all drinks within entry fee consumption limit, once to the Hot Bar and another time to Inner Club. Even though the partner exchange in both clubs never happened, mostly because of my very limited Portuguese skills, it was a fun experience, we found some interesting places to fuck with the ones I came with. Both times had a full GFE without even specifically asking for it. I was under the impression that both garotas really enjoyed the experience.
It makes sense for garotas because they don't share profits with the clinic, and R$500 per visit is probably on par or even more than they make during the daily shift at clinics. Never asked anyone at Scandallo, as the price would probably be insane.
If you decide to go, take a LOT of wet wipes with you. Be careful of those guys who come by themselves and want to join in on the action.
NoBuglyFitches
04-02-25, 01:39
What states in Brazil you can travel to where you can get sex under $50. If they the women can travel to get more money, I wouldn't mind doing the same to pay less money LOL.Look at photoacompanhantes dot com. It's true that some ladies who charge 800 at Scandallo work for 200-400 back home.
I had 1 year in the united states where I explored a few times so yes I know about the single guy trying to take advantage. Based on the girl at tangara explanation was not sure of the benefit for me. Maybe my comprehension is lacking. But she mentioned the plus side would be that the couple entry fee is lot less than going single. She mentioned if we had sex it would be $200. I am like wait a minute. Did she mean Brl. Anyways she said the other option is travel together uber and leave together uber. My thinking is if I am not fycking you for free why would I need to leave with you. Its something I would have to think about. In the states the club was filled with mostly old unattractive women. Is it different in Brazil.
I asked a few garotas in Tangara and Yankin what they could tell me about the Swinger club scene in SP. About 90% were very enthusiastic about going, quotes varied between R$150 per hour plus drinks for 3 hours, R$500 for one visit without specified time limit, and R$1000 for a visit, all included a partner exchange option.
I went twice, paid R$500+Uber each time, all drinks within entry fee consumption limit, once to the Hot Bar and another time to Inner Club. Even though the partner exchange in both clubs never happened, mostly because of my very limited Portuguese skills, it was a fun experience, we found some interesting places to fuck with the ones I came with. Both times had a full GFE without even specifically asking for it. I was under the impression that both garotas really enjoyed the experience.
It makes sense for garotas because they don't share profits with the clinic, and R$500 per visit is probably on par or even more than they make during the daily shift at clinics. Never asked anyone at Scandallo, as the price would probably be insane.
If you decide to go, take a LOT of wet wipes with you. Be careful of those guys who come by themselves and want to join in on the action..
NoBuglyFitches
04-02-25, 03:01
Sao Paulo prices are outrageous. Girls seem to want more to come to your apartment than sex at the club. I exchanged $200 and it was gone after 2 girls. Other countries that's definitely 3 or 4. Africa that's probably 4 threesome LOL. El centro colombia10 girls. At the other end of the scale, the hottest Brazilian girls get 1-2,000+ USD per hour in Dubai and at a couple of places in Europe. Which is why it's nearly impossible to find them at Scandallo nowadays.
Thanks Steve (again!) - so you've had no issues going to Scandello etc via taxi, then having issues with the club because the taxi driver goes in asking for his cut?Club pays taxi drivers R30 and it is not passed on to you.
I just got back recently from So Paulo and my first ever trip to Brazil. It was not a good trip. I definitely made some mistakes but now I know what I need to work on so that my next trip to SP is even better.
Appreciate you sharing your trip details. Good luck next time.
Wednesday, 3/19.
Decided on this night to get a bottle + table at Scandallo. The place was even more packed than yesterday with dozens of girls walking past the red couch every few minutes. I invited a few girls over to my table to drink (big mistake) and chatted them up. We were all dancing and a few other guys asked if they could join in. I was fine with that because there was no way I'the be taking all of these girls to the room anyways. The waiter moved our party to the table on the side with the couches. There were 8 girls drinking with all of us but I had my eyes on 2 of them. I asked one of them how much and she said are $2000 again (LOL wtf) so I tried to negotiate her down to are $1500 and she didn't budge at all. This is where things started to get ugly. I told her to leave and she said she wanted a tip. I gave her are $50 bill and told her it was nice meeting her. She looked at me and said "baby, it's not enough. " Huh? She then said she wanted are $1000 for her and her friend spending time at my table. I said no but she refused to leave. I told one of the security guards the situation and he said to pay or else they would kick me out. What the actual fuck. I thought tipping culture wasn't that big in Brazil. Why would I give you almost $200 USD in tips just for you partying with me? The security guard said I had 5 minutes to give her the money. I just said whatever and gave them are $1000. The other girls wanted tips too but security escorted them from my table, thankfully. I had never had this happen to me before, I was disgusted by the whole situation. I went down to the reception to explain the whole situation but they said there's nothing they could do. I just paid for the are $300 consumption + bottle and got the fuck out of there. Went to Casarao and had a few nice sessions, are $500 each for an hour. I could have negotiated down to are $350 but I just wanted to fuck and get all this stress out of my system. After I was done, I went home around 4 am.
Something is amiss here. This is unlike the way I know Scandallo management treats their customers. I ran into issues with girls and with billing few times. Each time Scandallo crew voluntarily managed to bring an English-speaking employee to bridge the communication gap and resolved the issue fairly to my satisfaction. I am having hard time believing a girl was able to demand R1000 just for hanging out with you for some time (not sure how long). Even if some crazy bit*h asks for such sum, some Scandallo employee forcing you to pay and you ended up paying is even crazier. I personally would never pay a girl any amount as tip for social time if the request comes in the form of a demand. I am puzzled why anyone else from management got involved except the security for a non-violent issue. It is interesting that you chose to visit a place that shafted you for $200 the very next day.
Do you mind letting us know who that girl was?
So its possible Sunday and Monday is Casarao slow nights. Tuesday had its typical plethora and variety of girls. I chose a tall Italian looking chick. She allowed me to pay her in usa dollars. She was okay with 400 and we did the conversion to $70. At first she had me worried cause I gave her the money and she said she had to go to the front desk. I was about to say not with my money when she reached into her purse and took out the money. She gave a nice quick blow job. I guess trying to speed up things in her favor. So I decided to get a little authoritative and suggest she suck some more and position her to look in my eyes. So I got more head from that. I continue directing the show. Started eating that white pyssy. The way she was acting I new I had her. So I stop licking and got on top and shove my dick in her mouth. Forcing a gradual deep throat. No resistance from her. So I directed some more and had her postion for doggy. I kept slapping her ass. Grabbed her by the throat while hitting from the back. I was in my porn mode LOL. She was loving it. I don't know Portuguese so I spoke Spanish. I said te gusta te gusta. She screamed out mucho mucho mucho. I feel girls need to pay me for sex the way how they act when I fyck them. Anyways switch to missionary. Fucked for a bit then took off the condom cause I wasn't cumming. She began jerking it off and did a great job, but my dick is more use to my hand LOL. So I began jerking off in front of her mouth and it turn me on that she had no objection so I splashed off with a loud roar. Can't helped the loudness and she laughed, we both laughed. I was pleased cause I only paid 400 and in usa dollars. 5. 7 instead of cambio 5. 4. I wentbback in casarao and wanted to bang 2 other girls. But at 60 year old don't have it anymore. Few girls I chatted up quoted 800 and 700 brl. I thought the max was 600 at casarao.
Is it just me. But the music is so bad. It's like they are stuck in the John travolta days. You rarely hear any new hot songs and the dancing is even worst. Been to few continents. Hands down the worst when it comes to music entertainment but #1 in girl friendly experience.
I will be in Sao Paulo starting Monday 4/7 , please message me if anyone is interested to meet at some of the fine establishments like Scandallo or Bomboa.
Thanks Georges P.
KnightCrawller
04-02-25, 18:22
I just got back recently from So Paulo and my first ever trip to Brazil. It was not a good trip. I definitely made some mistakes but now I know what I need to work on so that my next trip to SP is even better.
Really sorry to hear your trip was a bust. I've been to Scandallo several times over 2 separate trips, and having "worked" all over the world, Scandallo still remains one of my favorite satellite offices. I've personally found the both the talent and quality of experience second to none- though I haven't had the type of run-in you're describing. Perhaps it had something to do with the bottle service and how it affects the expectations from the girls? Forgive me but I've never done such a thing before outside of a more traditional experience in Vegas, so I'm curious about others' experiences in buying a bottle and posting up like so.
In my experience- and others whom I've spoken to separately- most girls will leave the club and spend the night with you for between 400-500 usd, and while on the very high end of So Paulo's offerings, it has been very well worth it. I've always thought that was one of the biggest advantages of a place like Scandallo- the fact that it is set up for you to "interview" potential employees before making an investment, rather than the European FKK system where the girls aren't really looking to spend much time talking and it's more of a crap shoot with regard to your takeaway.
Is it just me. But the music is so bad. It's like they are stuck in the John travolta days. You rarely hear any new hot songs and the dancing is even worst. Been to few continents. Hands down the worst when it comes to music entertainment but #1 in girl friendly experience.When you get to learn more about Brazilian music, you'll discover more sophisticated music like Samba or Pagode. With intricate chord changes and melodies.
The thing I enjoy the most about Brazil (after the girls of course) is the music, and that I get away from hip-hop and all that soulless music from the west these days.
I suspect you've only been listening to Brazilian Funk (Or "Funky" as they pronounce it).
You should have one of your girls educate you on real Brazlian music. And have her dance for you while at it.
Appreciate you sharing your trip details. Good luck next time.
Something is amiss here. This is unlike the way I know Scandallo management treats their customers. I ran into issues with girls and with billing few times. Each time Scandallo crew voluntarily managed to bring an English-speaking employee to bridge the communication gap and resolved the issue fairly to my satisfaction. I am having hard time believing a girl was able to demand R1000 just for hanging out with you for some time (not sure how long). Even if some crazy bit*h asks for such sum, some Scandallo employee forcing you to pay and you ended up paying is even crazier. I personally would never pay a girl any amount as tip for social time if the request comes in the form of a demand. I am puzzled why anyone else from management got involved except the security for a non-violent issue. It is interesting that you chose to visit a place that shafted you for $200 the very next day.
Do you mind letting us know who that girl was?I agree something's amiss with the story.
I find it hard to believe the security staff or management would do such a thing.
The girls know the establishment would never tolerate that kind of behavior from them.
When you get to learn more about Brazilian music, you'll discover more sophisticated music like Samba or Pagode. With intricate chord changes and melodies.
The thing I enjoy the most about Brazil (after the girls of course) is the music, and that I get away from hip-hop and all that soulless music from the west these days.
I suspect you've only been listening to Brazilian Funk (Or "Funky" as they pronounce it).
You should have one of your girls educate you on real Brazlian music. And have her dance for you while at it.This popular artist and his crew were on my flight from Rio to Sampa. People were all excited and stuff and shaking hands at the gate. I felt like a fucking idiot in the middle of the mix shaking hands and not knowing who the people were (they were just walking up to people shaking hands). Saw "Kevin O Chris" t-shirts so Googled the name and discovered he is a huge "funkee" star in Brazil:
https://youtu.be/AqFeBEwFFA0?si=-6Lk3c3KDHsYSLid
I have not heard anything that triggers a lap dance LOL. Nothing like reggaeton or afrobeats. I just hear older pop music. Seems like they have no interest in the latest trends. I don't know its my first time. But I have had no problem adapting to other countries music. Even the sound system seems lacking. I have only been to Casarao its not a broad assessment.
When you get to learn more about Brazilian music, you'll discover more sophisticated music like Samba or Pagode. With intricate chord changes and melodies.
The thing I enjoy the most about Brazil (after the girls of course) is the music, and that I get away from hip-hop and all that soulless music from the west these days.
I suspect you've only been listening to Brazilian Funk (Or "Funky" as they pronounce it).
You should have one of your girls educate you on real Brazlian music. And have her dance for you while at it..
I agree something's amiss with the story.
I find it hard to believe the security staff or management would do such a thing.
The girls know the establishment would never tolerate that kind of behavior from them.I am siding with the poster while agreeing Scandallo a classy establishment. Its an embarrassment but he still went back the next day. He also said he learned from mistakes. Regardless if it's truth or not, his post has merit. The girls can turn to sharks instantly.
He is alright in my book because he spent time to write his experience and contributed something. I am posting just so members don't stop posting.
Yesterday was the first time hearing Brazilian music with some reggaeton, hip hop, dance hall flaver. And it had the casarao girls gyrating and dancing naughty. The vibe was awesome. I got seduced and found myself a second time in the nearby hotel.
I have not heard anything that triggers a lap dance LOL. Nothing like reggaeton or afrobeats. I just hear older pop music. Seems like they have no interest in the latest trends. I don't know its my first time. But I have had no problem adapting to other countries music. Even the sound system seems lacking. I have only been to Casarao its not a broad assessment..
Is it just me. But the music is so bad. It's like they are stuck in the John travolta days. You rarely hear any new hot songs and the dancing is even worst. Been to few continents. Hands down the worst when it comes to music entertainment but #1 in girl friendly experience.It used to be otherwise. Samba and Axe music, some of the best in the world when it came to girls dancing (enticing hip motion). Bossa Nova too. I'm not sure the new Brazilian generation cares much for genuine Brazilian music any more. Only Rio's and Salvador's carnival are keeping it alive. It's a sign Brazilian Society is changing.
https://argentinaxp.com/en/blog/guia-escorts-turismo-sexual-sao-paulo/
Vagabundo1
04-04-25, 03:52
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nYnAzFn-eQdhcfZNSADOWyVrd7cbHp3z4&si=YuZU2Iy_K5NQSwZq
39 minutes.
You should pace yourself to fuck your fav hoars bare for all 39 minutes.
1. 5 repetitions is an hour.
I have not heard anything that triggers a lap dance LOL. Nothing like reggaeton or afrobeats. I just hear older pop music. Seems like they have no interest in the latest trends. I don't know its my first time. But I have had no problem adapting to other countries music. Even the sound system seems lacking. I have only been to Casarao its not a broad assessment.
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There has to be a god watching over. This is so crazy. I ask this chick what's her price. She says 400 half hour then I said how much for hour she says 800. I say forget it. So last night I tell this chick I only have us dollars. I say that because paying us dollars you get best return. She says its ok. We get to the receptionist at the desk and she sees me pay with my credit and gets cute. Says you pay me with credit card. I said I told you I only have us dollars. So I translate to the lady at the desk to give me the room money back. She says you can get another girl and it will be free she will remember. I go back in and give the girl that quote 800 the eyes and grabbed her hands. She gave me a very warm reception. So I said 500 oral no condom, sex condom. She said yes. She explain that card would be charged 20 brl extra. I said lets go. We were kissing before we even left casarao. I mean the chemistry and vibe was awesome. She was so affectionate. Look so much better close up. Had a dominican mix. I got a massage, excellent blow job, she tossed my salad, talk dirty to me, let me leche in her mouth and was so sweet and naughty about everything. I might just fuck her for the rest of my trip. I am still in awe.
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nYnAzFn-eQdhcfZNSADOWyVrd7cbHp3z4&si=YuZU2Iy_K5NQSwZq
39 minutes.
You should pace yourself to fuck your fav hoars bare for all 39 minutes.
1. 5 repetitions is an hour.I always practice safe anal sex haha!
I went to Miruna Clinica in Moema in the morning and returned in the early afternoon. At the reception, Carol and Dorcas greeted me. They made me feel welcome, and I trust their recommendations when new garotas start.
She brings me whiskey with ice while I wait for the presentation. Met two very light skin morenas Paloma and Anna. Sessions with both of them for two hours. The first hour was BBBJTCIM. Anna swallowed the leche and kissed Paloma with the leche drizzling from the sides of her mouth. Both Garota's photos are on the miruna daily lineup. Anna is new to miruna. The next hour was more fun, both took turns slobbering out one more leche of satisfaction. Got a forista discount for writing a review on gp-guia. Where are all the fvcking Loria garotas in Abbobora? 57 Friends Chanes is picking up decent talent. Shit, Julia said no more gp-guia forista discounts. Damn.
Casarao & scandallo still going strong. Some garotas wear exactly the same outfits night after night, especially in casarso. I meet the usual two twenty year old brancas, wearing braces, no underwear, both pounced on me soon as I enter the doors, barely making it past the stripper stage. They know the program, deep, slow swallowing of leche in gulps, and cum burps for an hour. No spillage. Both puterias enjoy being pretty ass cum dumps and body lickers. Just another day in brasil.
100 before 7 pm all consumption, after 7 pm 100 consumption + 100 entrance fee. I went on a Wednesday at 10 pm and there were about 25 girls at most. Only 3 were 7's, the rest were 6's and below. 1 of the 7's failed the interview for lying too much, the other two 7's looked bored, they didn't even bother making eye contact with me. It seemed like the going rate was 500/ HR. I didn't pick anyone, but I think they told me the room was 150 per hour. At 11:30 or midnight there was a live band. Overall, it was disappointing.
I have been to casarao every night as only 2 days it disappoints. Scandallo was nice but I am not entertaining their price. So what other club populates like casarao so to have other options. What other club have a good number of black girls. Need a change in routine. Even though each night I get a hot girl. And great performance.
I have been to casarao every night as only 2 days it disappoints. Scandallo was nice but I am not entertaining their price. So what other club populates like casarao so to have other options. What other club have a good number of black girls. Need a change in routine. Even though each night I get a hot girl. And great performance.Take your favorite garota to Love Cabaret, see fvcking cool sex show together, then go next door to andar de cima ertico motel.
Other late night casarso type spots.
Espao Vergueiro. Relax Adulto Rua Vergueiro, 170 - Liberdade.
57 Friends Club in Moema, Julia in reception speaks great English best time is evening 5-9 pm when clinicas garotas getting off of work. That is their happy hour hangout spot.
Clinica garotas and GND scandallo garotas are there.
Was at Casarao Saturday night but didn't chose anyone. My bright side of looking at the night I saved $107 us currency. The highest average amount my history of mongering is about $70. I know others use the comparison of what p4 p cost in the United States but I don't pay for P4P in the united states. I don't do any of the stuff here I do in the United States that's why I travel abroad to be free and uninhibited. I been thirsting for dark, brown, colored, mulatto girl and Sunday I saw a new one I had to investigate. She had height, curves, thin waste. When I went up to her she didn't look as attractive as the other girls but when I felt her ass, I was like wow. So soft with a bump. Natural shit. Ole skool booty type. I quote 500. She said 550. I said let you know. I still wasn't sure cause again she wasn't as attractive as other girls. Moments later she left with a guy. So now I am ready to push her off till tomorrow. She comes back from her session and the guy walks her in. This signal to be she got good pyssy. But its not like me to knowingly do back to back. She spotted me and came right to me. Very affectionate, openly naughty. Brazil as taught me just say fuck it and do it. I think some joker told me that in a post. Anyways off we went, no line and into room. Immediate kissing, like we couldn't wait to get it on. Even though I want to begin the sexual act I was focus on the shower. Since she just came back from the room. The water was cold, turns out she didn't understand hot left cold right. So she wanted to switch room for hot shower. But couldn't find anyone. My sosua mentality is thinking she scamming for time. So I rinse of my dick so we can get the show on the road. Throw a pillow on the ground so she can comfortably get on her knees. She was great with the blow job, combination of sucking and stroking styles was very close to making me cum. She laid on the bed for missionary. Complexion, small, waist, nice hips. Slipped on the condom put it inside her. So warm and tight. I was like yes this was the right choice. She was full with me LOL, moans, and Portuguese sex talk I guess. We then switch to doggy and she would look back at me when I was hitting it. That was sexy. The clincher was her wanting to get on top. This position I don't do often, but damn she was good. And she went for hers. I took the condom off and gave her the task of sucking my leche into her mouth. I thought she had the skills to do it, but her best effort couldn't pull it off. So I jerk it.
Off I don't know if it got in her mouth cause my eyes closes at ejaculation LOL. But it definitely got on her face. I was pretty loud at that point. We both laugh, cuddle. I fixed the simple shower problem and we got into the nice hot water. She was playing with me like she wanted more but I am self conscious of going over my hour although it seems like casarao don't care at times.
Other late night casarso type spots.
Espao Vergueiro. Relax Adulto Rua Vergueiro, 170 - Liberdade.
This place looks / sounds interesting. What's pricing like here please? (entry / girls / rooms).
This place looks / sounds interesting. What's pricing like here please? (entry / girls / rooms).Google .
Espao Vergueiro gp-guia.
All the info is there including reviews of garotas, pricing, and wassap. They are responsive on wassap.
I went there because of a skinny ass no bunda, very white pale, ghost pale, sexy redhead Garota from Scandalo. One night she left Scandallo at 1 am, we Uber over to Espaco Verguiero. She finished working out the night & drinking until 4 am (at 1/4 price of scandallo) kkkkkk.
While there we met up with another well-known Tangara / Yankin skinny pale redhead. She uses a red hair actress as her name. If ya know you know.
There are plenty of former Tangara, Yankin, Miruna, Prime Morena garotas in Casarao and 57 Friends, after a while you see same garotas sending invites to meet up at different places and newly opened spots.
Personally I found western union to be a really good option. I am sure theres other good options.
This girl was the first that I felt my 60 year old fit ass physically could not handle. I mean she just would not stop. What save me was a pee break. Earlier in the day Drunk lots of water so I would not dehydrate. She did everything excellent, she was best amongst lots of great performers. Her flaws was a slight smokers breath, and few cough cough issues. So I refrained from eating her pussy and limited the kissing. I noticed her last week. Week chatted briefly but she was snatched up repeatedly. Soon as I got in the club I noticed her, she notice me so I went to and said 500 oral no condom, sex condom. But my dick is not hard so I need you to get it hard. She got off the chair and went to work. Got it more than hard. We got in the room. She put on reggaeton. I was in heaven though I am starting to like the brazilian music more and more. Took a shower together and she started sucking right away. I wanted her to get on here knees. But she directed me to the bed. I thought I was paying LOL. But she went to work so I had no complaints. She then told me stay on my back and went into cowgirl position. Riding my dick in a variety of ways. Then she turned around to the normal ride on top. Did her thing in that position. Then she let me hit it doggy. That was good. Then missionary that was good. Then I jerked it off in front of her face to nut. Soon as I came she grabbed it and put in her mouth. My I let out a good roar. I was straight for the rest of the night. She was the best. If a slight smokers breath does not put you off. She's a must experience.
SamaRiding
04-09-25, 08:17
I have been to Brooklin club. It's a bar with maybe 10 girls. Very hit or miss. Fixed prices though and close to moema. I remember it's 300-400 r hour. Address: Av. Santo Amaro, 3388 - Brooklin.
Two I haven't been to yet. Bigger places but much further away. Prices seem to be also 300-400 r.
Muchachos Bar.
Are. Barão do Rio Branco, 962 - Santo Amaro.
Stop Night Club.
Av. Atlântica, 4655 - Interlagos, São Paulo.
I was at Casarao again. Not because I wanted to. Just not given and good options that's not going to shred my pockets. Casarao was packed. I am not sure if it was national men's day but it was packed with men. I felt like I have seen the girls too many times. So I refrained from choosing. In fact went home about 2 am to get a nice night sleep. Utilizing the gym at my apartment and having fyck like 10 days straight. I don't see an urgency to toss away $107 us currency just to record a fyck. Struck up a conversation with a guy from Salvador Bahia, who promoted the state or city. Stating its a far vibrant city than Sao Paulo, with better music, beaches, and beautiful natural African black girls. Highly recommended going during carnival and noted that sex prices was about 100 to 200 brl. This guy says he only comes to Sao Paulo for business and Casarao is a very popular legendary boates that's why volume chics men and expensive price. I will be back on the grind but this site needs more stories like this as oppose to hearing about paying ridiculous prices. I love the city of Brazil though. Apartments are cheap with nice amenities. Food is cheap, uber is cheap. Wtf happen to p4 p. Anyway its still been a good vacation. With this revelation, more researching next time, use of tinder and other dating apps, hopefully I won't be paying $107 a night for sex again in Brazil LOL.
but I am self conscious of going over my hour although it seems like casarao don't care at times.It used to be 60/30 minutes + 10 minutes for showering. Not sure if it is still the case now.
Good info. I like to stay in hot for some extra time.
It used to be 60/30 minutes + 10 minutes for showering. Not sure if it is still the case now..
Dekedeke328
04-09-25, 22:48
There has to be a god watching over. This is so crazy. I ask this chick what's her price. She says 400 half hour then I said how much for hour she says 800. I say forget it. So last night I tell this chick I only have us dollars. I say that because paying us dollars you get best return. She says its ok. We get to the receptionist at the desk and she sees me pay with my credit and gets cute. Says you pay me with credit card. I said I told you I only have us dollars. So I translate to the lady at the desk to give me the room money back. She says you can get another girl and it will be free she will remember. I go back in and give the girl that quote 800 the eyes and grabbed her hands. She gave me a very warm reception. So I said 500 oral no condom, sex condom. She said yes. She explain that card would be charged 20 brl extra. I said lets go. We were kissing before we even left casarao. I mean the chemistry and vibe was awesome. She was so affectionate. Look so much better close up. Had a dominican mix. I got a massage, excellent blow job, she tossed my salad, talk dirty to me, let me leche in her mouth and was so sweet and naughty about everything. I might just fuck her for the rest of my trip. I am still in awe.Oral no condom is the default in BR. I don't think I have ever had oral with condom.
While at Casarao, I have had 3 out of maybe 15 women tell me they do not do oral sex without a condom. So what do you want me to do. Tell them dedekeke says sucking dick without condom is default. Its there right if they say so. To avoid the surprise, disappointment in the room. I get proactive and ask first. So I canhave an option to decline or approve if I want to take her to the room. Sometimes you have to get off the macho shit. And think to counteract modern day reality to avoid problems
Oral no condom is the default in BR. I don't think I have ever had oral with condom..
Oral no condom is the default in BR. I don't think I have ever had oral with condom.This has been well discussed. Simply put, It depends on the venue. It is fine to assume that for Scandallo which is near 100%, but one is going to be very frustrated to assume that in Casarao which is less than 50% if you go with the flow. In Medellin, the percentage is very low in casas but almost 100% with Facebook girls. I have posted several of my adventures dealing with it in Brazil under that assumption
Steve 9696
04-11-25, 01:49
This has been well discussed. Simply put, It depends on the venue. It is fine to assume that for Scandallo which is near 100%, but one is going to be very frustrated to assume that in Casarao which is less than 50% if you go with the flow. In Medellin, the percentage is very low in casas but almost 100% with Facebook girls. I have posted several of my adventures dealing with it in Brazil under that assumption100% spot on. Standard bare at scandallo. Condom epidemic at Casarao. Not a problem if you confirm up front but if you don't you prob getting CBJ there.
Theres always a joker that offers up two year old advice or statements unable to realize that things change over time.
100% spot on. Standard bare at scandallo. Condom epidemic at Casarao. Not a problem if you confirm up front but if you don't you prob getting CBJ there..
Not on fire literally LOL. So many girls and the quality was outstanding. Previous day I wasn't feeling it so I decided save $107 us currency go home without getting action. But Friday I saw a newbie, never saw before and I went after it to confirm she look the part. But my freaking translator couldn't work so we could not communicate. Then I remembered forcestop the app and it started working. Asked if she had kids. She said no. Her ass felt good and youthful. I said get my dick hard we go. She started kissing me passionately. That sealed the deal for 400 brl 1 HR. We had the room with a stripper pole and some other gadgets. She exceeded my expectations body and performance wise. I had the energy of a 20 year old. Immediately after she said I like you I want to see you more times. Give me your number. I didn't want to say tomorrow will be my last day cause I wanted pics with her. I was happy with her, bit disappointed that my 60 year old ass only got one nut in me. So many girls I wanted a 2nd round. Met another girl from Salvador Bahia. I tell you next trip back Rio and Salvador Bahia going to entertain. I am going to get me same quality for cheaper. I loved my time here, going to miss it, I am already feeling emotional LOL. But I am going to figure out how to pay less for great quality next trip.
Do you guys have a rule of thumb for how much to pay a garota who you're seeing outside of Scandallo? E. g. If I pay 1200 for a session in the boate, I'the expect around 2500 for overnight. But if I text her the next day to come to my hotel for more of an open ended 2-3 hour session, should I pay 1200, more / less?
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100% spot on. Standard bare at scandallo. Condom epidemic at Casarao. Not a problem if you confirm up front but if you don't you prob getting CBJ there.Never had a CBJ in Brazil in two decades and never will. Things might change. But never that much. All you got to do is ask! And if you run across that rare one that's insistent (so rare in fact that I never have) then tell her to keep it moving. Definitely her loss.
My first night I met a girl at Scandallo who quoted me at 1000 brl. I took her number. We met again at Casarao where she quoted me 700 brl. I put her off, but decide I was going to end the trip with her if she agreed to 500 oral no condom which she agreed. We went to hotel and the guy gave us room 20. If you get that room change it. The bed sucks. She was great with oral, talking, freaky expression. At one point I was close to coming. When we switch to doggy I notice at times intentional positioning so you couldn't quite pound it. Kinda took away from complete enjoyment of fucking. Anyways since she was good at sucking I just decided to let her finish me off after going through all the fucking position. She had it going on, I enjoyed but she couldn't make me cum. So I jerk it off in front of her mouth and was certain with all the oral freaky gestures she was doing she would let me squirt all over. She blocked it with her hands which took away from the nut. So this girl got a mix review and I got mixed good and bad send off.
ZuluTango25
04-14-25, 10:33
Ran into this forum while researching on Brazil and would like to thank all of you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I have not explored much out side USA except for few trips to Tijuana MX.
I am taking a 1st trip to Brazil next week for 9 days and plan on visiting São Paulo and Rio.
I have a quick question and hoping to get some help.
Anyone has any input on Moncloa hotel next to Casaro? Considering Casaro being the late night spot, I am thinking staying close by would avoid late night uber rides.
Is there a better alternative / suggestion? I am guessing hotels close to Casaro would be visitor friendly.
Steve 9696
04-14-25, 18:10
Ran into this forum while researching on Brazil and would like to thank all of you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I have not explored much out side USA except for few trips to Tijuana MX.
I am taking a 1st trip to Brazil next week for 9 days and plan on visiting So Paulo and Rio.
I have a quick question and hoping to get some help.
Anyone has any input on Moncloa hotel next to Casaro? Considering Casaro being the late night spot, I am thinking staying close by would avoid late night uber rides.
Is there a better alternative / suggestion? I am guessing hotels close to Casaro would be visitor friendly.I don't know your budget but the area around Casarao isn't exactly where you want to stay. You can stay at a nice hotel in the paulista area and it's only 5 min uber to Casarao. Even if you stay farther away you don't go to casarao till 11 Pm earliest — so traffic isn't so bad.
Hi all,
I am visiting SP in April 16-20th and staying in Allure Moema hotel. First time I was in SP 15 years ago just for 2 days and in the first day somebody tried to rob us 10 minutes after we arrived to the center of the city, next to the opera house. They tried it second time in 5 minutes. We got scared and went to the hotel. Next day we hired a private guide and he showed us the city.
So, I am wondering how save is Moema area, especially in the night?
Ran into this forum while researching on Brazil and would like to thank all of you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I have not explored much out side USA except for few trips to Tijuana MX.
I am taking a 1st trip to Brazil next week for 9 days and plan on visiting So Paulo and Rio.
I have a quick question and hoping to get some help.
Anyone has any input on Moncloa hotel next to Casaro? Considering Casaro being the late night spot, I am thinking staying close by would avoid late night uber rides.
Is there a better alternative / suggestion? I am guessing hotels close to Casaro would be visitor friendly.Ckeck hotels like Mercure Alamedas, close to av. Paulista. There's no hotel a stone's throw from Casarao and if you are a 10 minutes's walk from Casarao you don't walk there at night anyway.
ZuluTango25
04-15-25, 07:00
Ckeck hotels like Mercure Alamedas, close to av. Paulista. There's no hotel a stone's throw from Casarao and if you are a 10 minutes's walk from Casarao you don't walk there at night anyway.Moving to EZ Aclimacao.
After seeing the street views of Augusta street, I decided to cancel my reservation at Moncloa.
Thank you for you input.
ZuluTango25
04-15-25, 07:03
I don't know your budget but the area around Casarao isn't exactly where you want to stay. You can stay at a nice hotel in the paulista area and it's only 5 min uber to Casarao. Even if you stay farther away you don't go to casarao till 11 Pm earliest so traffic isn't so bad.Thank you Steve9696. Moving to Moema area. Thank you for your input.
Hi all,
I am visiting SP in April 16-20th and staying in Allure Moema hotel. First time I was in SP 15 years ago just for 2 days and in the first day somebody tried to rob us 10 minutes after we arrived to the center of the city, next to the opera house. They tried it second time in 5 minutes. We got scared and went to the hotel. Next day we hired a private guide and he showed us the city.
So, I am wondering how save is Moema area, especially in the night?Check the Sao Paulo Hotels and List thread. Moema area including Allure, Mercure, Charlie, Wyndham, Tsue Palace, various airbnbs, have been reviewed about safety, price, guest friendly, noise, traffic, Uber, etc. Just read back through the many pages there. IMHO the main consideration for Moema is the fucking screaming jets taking at off 0600 am sharp and all day long. You can see the QR code on the bottom of the livery of GOL planes landing at CGH from almost any Moema Clinica. There are at least 10 to 12 clinicas, spas.
Ten minutes walking distance or short inexpensive uber rides to tangara, Scandallo, Casarao at night.
Check the Sao Paulo Hotels and List thread. Moema area including Allure, Mercure, Charlie, Wyndham, Tsue Palace, various airbnbs, have been reviewed about safety, price, guest friendly, noise, traffic, Uber, etc. Just read back through the many pages there. IMHO the main consideration for Moema is the fucking screaming jets taking at off 0600 am sharp and all day long. You can see the QR code on the bottom of the livery of GOL planes landing at CGH from almost any Moema Clinica. There are at least 10 to 12 clinicas, spas.
Ten minutes walking distance or short inexpensive uber rides to tangara, Scandallo, Casarao at night.You can find hotels in Moema with little to no noise. The Mercure Times Square is one such hotel. I can personally vouch for it. But don't let anyone con you into staying at the Wyndham with claims of insulated windows! I stayed there during my last visit to Sampa, and it's directly in the flight path and noisy! Very convenient but don't stay there if you're a light sleeper or if jet airplane noise just bothers you. Otherwise the actual accommodation was fine, and Moema is extremely safe.
......I am taking a 1st trip to Brazil next week for 9 days and plan on visiting So Paulo and Rio........In that order? I don't know about that. I would do Rio first. You want to be at top strength to handle those Rio garotas.
Steve 9696
04-16-25, 21:09
You can find hotels in Moema with little to no noise. The Mercure Times Square is one such hotel. I can personally vouch for it. But don't let anyone con you into staying at the Wyndham with claims of insulated windows! I stayed there during my last visit to Sampa, and it's directly in the flight path and noisy! Very convenient but don't stay there if you're a light sleeper or if jet airplane noise just bothers you. Otherwise the actual accommodation was fine, and Moema is extremely safe.Plus every Mercure I've stayed in (4 or 5) is girl friendly. They don't bat an eye. No registration. Just walk to the elevators and up you go!
ZuluTango25
04-16-25, 21:14
In that order? I don't know about that. I would do Rio first. You want to be at top strength to handle those Rio garotas.Already booked flight tickets. So I have to stick to the plan this time. May be my next trip. Thank you for your suggestion.
Check the Sao Paulo Hotels and List thread. Moema area including Allure, Mercure, Charlie, Wyndham, Tsue Palace, various airbnbs, have been reviewed about safety, price, guest friendly, noise, traffic, Uber, etc. Just read back through the many pages there. IMHO the main consideration for Moema is the fucking screaming jets taking at off 0600 am sharp and all day long. You can see the QR code on the bottom of the livery of GOL planes landing at CGH from almost any Moema Clinica. There are at least 10 to 12 clinicas, spas.
Ten minutes walking distance or short inexpensive uber rides to tangara, Scandallo, Casarao at night.Thanks.
Checkedin in Allure this morning. Hotel is very nice, clean and furniture are modern. Rooms are much smaller when on pictures, but have everything. Unfortunately, there are no safety boxes in rooms. They have laundry in the basement. In couple days will try it. No iron and iron board in the room. Rooms are more or less soundproofed. You can hear the noise, but it not even close to the noise on the street.
Walked to the mall to get some money. Santander ATMs declined my chase debit card. I called chase and they told me there was no any declines on chase side. It is the bank. There is an exchange on a third floor, so exchanged some dollars.
You can find hotels in Moema with little to no noise. The Mercure Times Square is one such hotel. I can personally vouch for it. But don't let anyone con you into staying at the Wyndham with claims of insulated windows! I stayed there during my last visit to Sampa, and it's directly in the flight path and noisy! Very convenient but don't stay there if you're a light sleeper or if jet airplane noise just bothers you. Otherwise the actual accommodation was fine, and Moema is extremely safe.I will add my 2 cents, so folks can decide where to stay. Mercure hotels usually don't seem to have sound proofed windows and that is the case with Mercure Times Square (MTS). The windows they have are bit better than the ones in apartments. If there is a nearby construction during you stay, then you don't need an alarm to get up in the morning. Other benefit of staying in MTS when there is nearby construction is you can do clinica runs, sightseeing or some other activity during daytime because you won't be able to sleep. At night there won't be any construction and also there are not many flights going over Wyndham either. There was construction across the street (near Al Kaseem restaurant) from hotel MTS during my 1st stay. The construction noise woke me up every day by 8 am and couldn't sleep during the day because of the loud noise. Luckily there is no such loud construction during my recent stays. I would pick Wyndham over MTS if there is nearby construction. That said, under Wyndham management the hotel has gone downhill. It is now very poorly maintained and with poor management. One big advantage MTS has over Wyndham is that it is, like Steve9696 said, very girl friendly.
I will add my 2 cents, so folks can decide where to stay. Mercure hotels usually don't seem to have sound proofed windows and that is the case with Mercure Times Square (MTS). The windows they have are bit better than the ones in apartments. If there is a nearby construction during you stay, then you don't need an alarm to get up in the morning. Other benefit of staying in MTS when there is nearby construction is you can do clinica runs, sightseeing or some other activity during daytime because you won't be able to sleep. At night there won't be any construction and also there are not many flights going over Wyndham either. There was construction across the street (near Al Kaseem restaurant) from hotel MTS during my 1st stay. The construction noise woke me up every day by 8 am and couldn't sleep during the day because of the loud noise. Luckily there is no such loud construction during my recent stays. I would pick Wyndham over MTS if there is nearby construction. That said, under Wyndham management the hotel has gone downhill. It is now very poorly maintained and with poor management. One big advantage MTS has over Wyndham is that it is, like Steve9696 said, very girl friendly.I stayed at this hotel at least a couple of times and there was zero noise from planes flying overhead. I don't know if the windows were sound proof or not. All I know is there was no airport noise. There also was no construction going on at the time of my stays though, so I can't address that. The Wyndham is in a more convenient location, but the MTS certainly isn't inconveniently located, and the screeching overhead planes cancel out any advantages to be had from the Wyndham's location if you ask me. Advantage MTS when it comes to avoiding airport noise. Based on my direct experience. I won't stay at the Wyndham again.
I thought this was the best decision I made. I experienced a vibrant, diverse community closely populated by entertainment, restaurants, and shopping malls. In fact, it seemed to be a carbon copy of New York. Yes theres like 2% homeless people but no different in America with the invasion of fentanyl. Police ride up and down the roads consistently at night time. Apart from the homeless the other people roaming the streets are party goers like yourself. I loved walking to and from casarao to my apartment building, which had great security. I think the earliest I walked home was 2 am and sometimes coming in about 5 am. In my opinion Casarao was the best somewhat reasonable priced place to monger with numbers of talent so why not be as close by as possible. There was no annoying noise from flight as people posted about moema. But if you are into the spas then I would agree to be close by in the moema area.
Walked to the mall to get some money. Santander ATMs declined my chase debit card. I called chase and they told me there was no any declines on chase side. It is the bank. There is an exchange on a third floor, so exchanged some dollars.Look for Bradesco ATM's, they're the best.
SamaRiding
04-17-25, 08:08
Thanks.
Walked to the mall to get some money. Santander ATMs declined my chase debit card. I called chase and they told me there was no any declines on chase side. It is the bank. There is an exchange on a third floor, so exchanged some dollars.Try the ATMs at the free standing banks. Not the ones in stores or the mall.
This is my go to bank on the same avenue and accept Chase bank card.
Banco Bradesco. Agência 0495.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/f5aTpqji5YxRs1Eu7?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy
Look for Bradesco ATM's, they're the best.Bradesco is my preferred but Santander also works well with my Schwab debit card. Schwab also refunds all ATM fees (was like $60) which I greatly appreciate!
Try the ATMs at the free standing banks. Not the ones in stores or the mall.
This is my go to bank on the same avenue and accept Chase bank card.
Banco Bradesco. Agncia 0495.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/f5aTpqji5YxRs1Eu7?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copyAgreed use Bradesco bank inside the lobby. There is a Bradesco across from Moema metro. I think the lobby closes at 8 pm. Personally my go to are the Bradesco banks with lobby open late at night until 11 pm. The Santadar ATM in Shopping Ibirapuera mall is a 50-50 deal. Sometimes works fine with credit card withdrawal other times has limits of 1000 reais max. Sometimes rejects debit card transaction with nada explanation.
Also be careful using debit card vs credit cards because some bank ATM run out of paper to print proof of withdrawal or in case of ATM malfunction or not dispensing any money. Until the damn whirring stops and money is dispensed anything can happen.
Or in case of ATM malfunction or not dispensing any money. Until the damn whirring stops and money is dispensed anything can happen.This happened to me once in Brazil (Curitiba). It was at a major mall using a machine that was not specific to a particular bank (that's what I could find). Apparently the machine lost connectivity or something and didn't dispense my money. It said wait a few minutes and try again. I did, and on the second attempt I was able to withdraw the money. Afterwards I checked my Schwab checking account which showed two attempts to withdraw the money, the first unsuccessful and the second successful. I then locked my account so that no more withdrawals could take place until I myself unlocked the account. I love that feature! That along with refunds of any and all fees and great customer service (I don't hand that compliment out easily because most businesses don't deserve it) makes the Schwab debit card an excellent choice for the traveling monger. One of the best things I ever did was open that checking account with Schwab. They put $60 in ATM fees recently incurred in Brazil back into my account. Not a lot of banks are going to do that. When I'm overseas I hit the ATMs freely because I know I will get all of the fees back. The Cane does not pay fees to access my own money!
SocratesNY
04-17-25, 23:03
I haven't written a report in almost 1. 5 years, but still go to Brazil (mostly SP) about 6 x a year. With the abundance of reviews, feedback and questions the past few months in this forum, I feel motivated to give back and provide new insights I've gleamed in 2024 and 2025, as well as answer some questions or update on some pricing: Note: All mentions of money are in Brazilian Real, unless denoted by USD.
Accommodations:
I generally stay at higher end hotels and have found all the mid to high end hotels in SP and RJ to be guest friendly. You should ALWAYS book for 2 or maximum allowable guests for that room category. (3+ for suites, etc.). Some hotels, especially the night staff, will try to charge you a guest fee if you only book for 1 guest. Sometimes they will try even if you book for 2+. In those situations, you just need to politely push back and point out you booked for 2+ guests.
Something new I've experienced is that some hotels will try to differentiate a "visitor" vs. A "guest". They consider a visitor as temporary visitor. They consider a guest as someone who can get a keycard and make room charges, etc. I had one instance where a hotel tried to register a girl as a "visitor" and ask me pay a visitor fee. I told them I booked for 2 persons, and they warned me that to avoid the "visitor" fee, I had to register her as a "guest" so I did so. I simply unregistered her once she left in the afternoon.
I have stayed at the following hotels found them to be guest friendly:
Rosewood (Best hotel in SP IMHO, luxurious and modern, conveniently located, expensive).
Emiliano (luxury hotel with a modern Brazilian flair, conveniently located, expensive).
Fasano (both locations) (Old school Brazilian luxury hotel, conveniently located, expensive).
Hotel Unique (Not a fan, small rooms ok location, expensive).
Tivoli (Nice luxury hotel, conveniently located, expensive).
Renaissance (Best Marriott hotel location wise. A bit dated, good service).
Grand Hyatt (Amazing service, typical Grand Hyatt, far from the action).
JW Marriott (Newly renovated luxury Marriott hotel, far from action).
W Sao Paulo (Newlly built great service, good location amd modern luxury).
Intercontinental (A bit dated, good location).
My friends found the following hotels to be guest friendly:
Palacio Tangara (Super luxurious, far away from action, expensive).
Hilton (Far away from action).
Sheraton (Far away from action).
Marriott Apartments (Close to Bomboa and Caf Photo.
Pullman Sao Paulo (both locations).
Grand Mercure and Mercure (various locations).
Wyndham SP Ibrapuera (formerly known as the Bourbon) in Moema (Beware of airplane noise).
Friends who have stayed at Airbnb have had little trouble finding guest friendly options in both SP and RJ, although they did have to do their due diligence and ask about the host's guest policy.
Transportation:
Uber is the way to go, as it's cheap and convenient. I generally use Uber Black as many drivers cancel UberX so you might have to wait longer to save a little coin. Uber Black also usually isn't much more than UberX and a few times, it's even cheaper! A new option I noticed in 2024 is Uber Taxi, which can be quite useful in avoiding traffic. Uber Taxi usually is similar to UberX in pricing (and often times run promos which cost less than Uberx). Taxis can use special lanes for only Taxis and Buses to avoid traffic during rush hour. Occasionally, I would use regular Taxis when leaving Scandallo or my hotel if it's right there waiting for a passenger. For short and medium distance journeys, their pricing is comparable to Uber. It is usually the long distances rides and trips from / to airports that they become significantly more costly than Uber.
Crime:
Most of the crime in Sao Paulo are crimes of opportunity against the weak (women, elderly, solo unaware gringos, etc.). Snatch and grab make up most of the crime I've heard about from friends, colleagues, girls and others. Try not to walk around the city with your full attention on your phone. When you do need to use your phone out in the street, try to stay away from the curb, where guys on bikes can do a snatch and grab. I usually walk inside a store if I need to use my phone. When calling for an Uber, try to do so and wait inside an establishment, whether it's a clinica, bank, restaurant, bar, etc. And exit when the Uber arrives. The neighborhood you are in also plays a big part on how cautious and aware you need to be. Centro, Republica and north of Av. Paulista at night can be especially shady. Even tourist hotspots near Av. Paulista, Liberdade, etc. Need extra awareness at night. The areas I've found to be safest at night were Itaim Bibi, Vila Olimpia and Jardim Paulista. I also found Moema to be relatively safe both during the day and at night, as it has a Bohemian vibe. You can also get a wrist cord or neck lanyard for your phone. It has saved my friends from a few attempts at snatch and grabs.
Banking / FX and Credit Cards:
I mainly use ATMs for most of my FX / cash needs. You get an exchange rate very close to the current rate with Santander and Bradesco. I try to use ATMs inside bank branches. In branches near busy and more affluent, touristy or commercial areas (Jardim Paulista, Itaim Bibi, etc.) and in shopping malls, I usually can withdraw $2,500 per transaction up to your local bank's daily withdrawal limits (so probably $5,000 per day in 2 transactions). I have 2 ATM cards with me so I can withdraw up to $10,000 per day. 1 to 2 visits to the ATMs usually satisfy my cash needs for the trip.
Using a debit card that refunds ATM fees is suggested. Schwab and Fidelity have online accounts that are easy to use and returns ATM fees. Higher tier bank checking accounts at big western financial institutions will refund your ATM fees. I carry 2 of these cards with me when I travel (Schwab and my main bank card).
I also supplement that by brining around $1,000 USD for emergency funds. Many girls will take USD in lieu of Reals. You can also go to a cambio if you want to exchange. Two that I have used and can recommend are: 1) Seattle Turismo in Jardim Paulist and 2) Casa de Cambio in Morumbi Shopping.
For most of my expenses in Brazil, I use a credit card with no foreign transaction fees and high point reward bonuses for restaurants and travel. I use my credit cards at hotels, restaurants, super markets, pharmacies, tourist attractions, boates (Scandallo, Bamboa, etc.) and even some clinicas and Termas (in RJ) where there is no surcharge or fees for using a credit card. I mostly use cash when paying the girls or when visiting clinicas that don't take credit card or charge a surcharge for its usage.
I usually only take with me 1 or 2 CCs and 1 debit card with me when I am out. I also only take what I expect to use in cash that day / evening. As I usually do overnights with girls and usually visit boates, I leave most of my cash in the hotel, as I only pay the girl when they leave in the morning / afternoon. I also leave my passport and most of my IDs and CCs, etc. In the hotel safe. I carry with me my PADI ID and a paper copy of my passport. I've used my PADI ID at all the boates, bars, clubs, etc. Without issue. I am sure an expired license or any local ID you use would suffice if they would accept my scuba diving ID. My paper copy of my passport was also accepted by cambios I've used for USD to BRL cash exchange. They usually will also take a photo of your passport from your phone. I also take with me a burner phone, which basically is the last phone I used before I upgraded to my current phone. I do the above to minimize risk when out about town.
Cellular Communications:
I have no experience getting local SIM or international eSIM cards, as I have used 3 plans the last 5 years in Brazil that worked great. Google Fi has unlimited talk, text and data and is great for international use. T-Mobile has 5 Gig of monthly data for international use. AT&T has unlimited talk, text and data in South America (including Brazil). However, GRU and GIG airports have free wifi if you need access to internet and to grab an Uber when you land without cellular internet.
SocratesNY
04-17-25, 23:05
Hobbying:
With some of the recent discussions devolving into subtle or not subtle jabs as to the right way to hobby, I want to put the following disclaimer.
I believe is NO RIGHT WAY to hobby! Everyone has different tastes, budgets, approaches, goals, etc. You can go visit as many different venues as you want or stick to a select few that you repeat often. Spend as little or as much as your budget allows or your heart desires! Fuck as much or little as you want!
Here are my personal experiences and YMMV.
I generally come to Brazil for 1 week every 2 months. Therefore, time is my most valuable resource. I also am fortunate enough that I have a high enough budget that I can afford to go to the more high-end venues frequently and often. My work schedule also generally leaves me little time for afternoon excursions. I personally prefer the environment of a boate like Scandallo, where I get the chance to see the girl in person, get a chance to chat her up and see if we have good chemistry and see if we vibe, as opposed to a point and shoot option of clinicas or online outcalls / incalls.
Boates:
Scandallo:
Based on the above, it's no wonder Scandallo is my favorite place to visit in Brazil. It's a luxurious venue with good food and good drinks and they bring 100-250 girls together for me to chat up, size up and select for an overnight date. Saves me so much time and legwork as opposed to other venues like clinicas or online options (escorts or Seeking or its Brazilian version MP), which would take multiple visits and still might not get the same results or quality. It's almost like speed dating version of Seeking / freelancers, but you can choose who to approach and go at it at your own pace.
Scandallo Lounge is divided into mainly3 areas, an outdoor terrace (small one by day and then a large one later at night), a restaurant and a disco / club area. You can talk to girls in a quieter setting of the terrace or restaurant (but has darker lighting) or dance and party in the disco.
The average quality of the girls who work there are, in my experience and opinion, unrivalled anywhere in Brazil (some would say all of the Americas or even the world) in terms of looks, charisma, style, intelligence, etc. I've met many professionals and talented artists who worked there from lawyers, doctors, engineers, teachers, nurses. Etc. And of course, many students, models, artists, dancers, etc. For a girl to work in Scandallo, it isn't as simple as showing up and paying their entry fee, which isn't cheap. They have to submit photos of themselves and go for an interview. I've had a few girls I've met at other boates, who I thought had the looks for working at Scandallo get turned down. They were told they either weren't put together enough or should get more experience working at other higher end boates like Connections (sister club of Scandallo) or Bamboa before they reapply again. I am sure the months / seasons of the year also has something to do with their rejection. During the quieter months in the summer, when many of the girls are traveling abroad (or Brazilian winter), they probably would have gotten accepted.
Once they get accepted, they have to pay an initial entrance fee of $300 for their first day working at the club. Although I've heard some girls get that waved as they are so hot or refined / elegant and the club management want them to come to attract clients. If they work 8 hours or if a client takes them out of the club for a "saida", they will get a free invitation back the next business day. They are expected to work 5 days a week if they want to get continuous free invitations. They can elect to take Saturday or Mondays off (on top of Sundays). They can change their day off each week when they submit their schedule. Once they skip a work day, they will have to restart the first day $300 admission process all over again.
Therefore, a girl who isn't hot enough or have a shitty or sharky personality or don't have whatever clients look for, they will have a sunk cost of $300 plus whatever they consume in terms of food and drinks that clients don't pay for. That weeds out the lower end girls as they have to compete with other young and hot girls who might be intelligent, stylish, elegant, sexy, etc. And they have to PAY to compete, or on subsequent working days invest their time to compete.
Some of the best girls can show up late or whenever they want as they can get a client whenever they show up.
For guys, their cost is $300 before 7:00 pm (All count toward consumption) and $500 after 7:00 pm ($300 toward consumption). What that basically means is that there is a $200 cover charge after 7:00 pm, and you are expected to spend a minimum of $300 on drinks, food, tobacco products, etc. I find it pretty easy to spend $300 per visit and rarely go under that, unless it's a quick visit on the way to the airport.
If you plan to visit Scandallo more than 1 or 2 x within a 6-month period and / or are going with friends, it's is good advice to get a bottle of your favorite hard liquor. You pay less per drink and the bottle is held for 6 months. The bottle also acts as a placeholder on any table you are sitting at should you go walk around. I usually get a bottle of gin as that's what the girls usually drinks. Some will also drink vodka, tequila and champagne. I find both good and bad whiskey wasted on the girls. If you are going with friends, you can even split the cost of a bottle as everyone would have $300 consumption anyway.
Most of the girls I've spoken to recently have been asking anywhere between $1,000 to $3,000 for a short time romp in the adjacent hotel. Time can range from 60 to 120 minutes depending on how you negotiate. It is generally just an opening ask, and they will usually take $700 to $1,200. A few girls will only come down to $1,500 to $2,000. How far down they will go will depends on many factors. While you are sizing them up, they are also reading you. If they like you, whether it's your looks, hygiene, personality, etc. Can be a factor. Whether they think you are a newbie or a rich gringo sometimes can be a factor. The time and day of the week also matters, as they will take less during quieter times of the day (afternoon or early evenings) or less busy days of the week (Mondays and Saturdays).
Suffice it so say, with so many hot women to suit all tastes, all my friends and I have had no issue getting girls for $1,000 to $1,200, and even with some of my friends who like to haggle and play hard to get netting girls regularly for $700-900 for ST (Short Time).
I personally do not enjoy haggling and don't negotiate too hard so usually just make 1 counter offer that I feel is fair based on what my friends, colleagues and other local friends have been paying ($1,000 to $1,200) and move on. Even then, my successful rate is probably 90-95%.
For ST visits in the hotel next door, Scandallo now charges $300 per hour, which is the same as the takeout "saida" fee. Time starts when the girl opens the door with the keycard to the room. Any time over one hour is charged at a prorated rate.
Short time trysts probably only make up 5-10% of my encounters in Scandallo. I almost always take a girl out of the club at the end of the night for an overnight / pernoite date until the morning. For LT (Long time) dates, I generally pay $1,500 to $2,000. Occasionally, I've paid $2,500 for a girl I really want and once in a blue moon, I've paid $3,000 for a unicorn that I just had to have.
I also make sure to discuss what I want in terms of service and time. For me that's at minimum, BBBJ, DFK, have stamina in both oral and intercourse, as I can last awhile. I also make sure we agree on when they will leave, as I always want a girl to stay until at least late morning for morning sex and then breakfast in bed. If they need to leave earlier, then I either move on or negotiate a lower "gift" for less time.
You can fill in your own requirements in terms of acronyms or requirements. These girls aren't shy and have heard it all, whether you ask for CIM, anal, BBFS, reverse gangbang, 2 guys tag teaming her, BDSM, eating sushi off of them, pegging, waterworks, visiting swing clubs, going to a love model with a pole for a private strip show, etc. Just be direct, but also tactful or smooth in asking for what you want. Nothing worse than being vague and then being disappointed if you didn't get something that you "must" have or presume is included or they leave earlier than you expect.
Generally, GFE (BBBJ, Kissing, DATY) is included, but after 1 instance (thankfully out of 100+) of a girl wanting to do CBJ, I've started making sure even on GFE. I've found the average IOP and service level of the girls at Scandallo to be higher than other boates or venues. It's a by-product of the more relaxing and luxurious environment, vetting process by management, ability of clients to size up the girl, the girl generally being smart enough to want a loyal repeat client, clients who are usually more demanding and not settle for shitty service, girls who are usually more refined and forward thinking, and the ability of clients to complain about a girl to management.
Some of my friends and colleagues (as well as many of the locals) go to Scandallo just to socialize and get numbers for a future meet up. Many locals (which makes up probably 90% of the client base) also go just to drink and party, whether with clients or just with the girls or to get cheap feels.
After reading about an instance of a poster being extorted / scammed into paying a girl to spend time with her, I have to chime in. YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY A GIRL FOR SPENDING TIME WITH YOU! They can ask for a tip when she leaves you. Heck, she can ask for drinks, food, etc. It is your right to say yes or no. I've had less than a handful of girls ask for a tip when we couldn't come to an agreement after she spent some social time with me. I've also politely declined each time and they just shrugged and went on their way. Tipping isn't a cultural thing in Brazil and they usually only ask that of gringos.
They will NOT kick you out simply for spending social time with a girl and not compensating her for social time. If a girl or any security guard makes that demand or threat, ask to speak to management. I've asked a few managers and head waiters at the club about this and they all said it's BS and they would ban the girl and fire the security guard on the spot of it was brought to their attention.
To recap for pricing:
$300 minimum consumption (All times) + $200 cover charge after 7:00 PM.
$300ST hotel for 1 hour or $300 take out "Saida" fee.
ST: Generally $900 to $1,200 with a select few at $7-800 or $1,500 to $2,000.
LT: Generally $1,500 to $2,000, with a select few at $2,500 to $3,000.
Bomboa.
A smaller boate with a family restaurant feel. The club is centrally located, which might be its best attribute. I've visited on numerous occasions for a change of pace and at least half the time, I left and went to Scandallo afterwards, as I didn't find any girl to my liking that were available. The number of girls varies from 25 to 50 depending on the night. I almost always see a girl I like, but often times they are occupied. Overall, I like the service and more relaxed vibe, but the limited amount of girls at times make it hit or miss for me.
The pricing is very similar to Scandallo as my last visit in 2024 was $350 all consumption. They also tack on a 15% service charge. They also have a happy hour / executive lunch special during the day at about the consumption.
The girls ask a little less than Scandallo and you can get them for $600-1,000 for ST and $1,000 to $1,500 for LT.
Caf Photo:
Also centrally located and near Bomboa. It's a luxurious smaller version of Scandallo and I've had so good pulls in the past before they finished building the hotel. However, my last few visits (and those of my friends) have been mediocre at best. The quantity and quality of the girls have gone downhill the past 12-18 months.
Pricing is also similar to Scandallo as it was $350 with $200 being consumption. They also tack on a 15% service charge.
The girls ask a little less than Scandallo and you can get them for $800-1,000 for ST and $1,000 to $1,500 for LT.
Gauguin Club:
Located by WTC so lots of businessmen and gringo visitors. Went there for first time earlier this year and did like the setup. It's a bit like Caf Photo, but with better talent (similar to Bomboa) I forgot the entry, but I think we took the $200 option with less consumption.
Girls were asking prices similar to Scandallo.
It's an okay boate to check out if you are in the area.
Clinicas:
I generally separate them into 3 tiers. High-end, regular and budget.
My favorite high end ones are:
The Palms (Tropical theme, Ipad selection, good service) $800 for 60 min.
Oro Spa (Modern Spa look, ipad selection, good service) $750 for 60 min.
Lotus Lounge (Modern Spa look, ipad selection, good service) $750 for 60 min.
Regular Clinicas (I've mostly gone to the ones in Moeama area):
Moema Prime: (good roster, good selection of girls, good to amazing service) $330 for 60 min.
Miruna (moderate roster, okay selection of girls, good service) $330 for 60 min.
Abbobora (Biggest roster, usually hotter selection of girls, but service is hit or miss): $400 for 60 min.
57 Friends (moderate roster, okay selection of girls, good to amazing service) $330 for 60 min. Turns into a boate after 8 or 9 pm.
Enjoy (moderate roster, okay selection of girls, good service) $330 for 60 min.
Budget:
Tangara (huge roster, good selection of girls, okay to great service) $240 for 60 min.
Yankin (large roster, good selection of girls, okay to great service) $240 for 60 min.
Sheraton (Far away from action).
Completely agree about being far away for the action, except it's next door to the Gauguin Club. I wouldn't stay there for that reason, but I would definitely visit the Gauguin Club if you're staying at the Sheraton.
Great report. Very useful for the first timer like me.
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Here are my personal experiences and YMMV.
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........Wyndham SP Ibrapuera (formerly known as the Bourbon) in Moema (Beware of airplane noise)............I mostly stayed at the Bourbon in my trips to SP (last one being 2019). Now made aware of the name change. I was always given a room with sound proof windows so had no problem with noise in the room despite its proximity to the airport.
I thought this was the best decision I made. I experienced a vibrant, diverse community closely populated by entertainment, restaurants, and shopping malls. In fact, it seemed to be a carbon copy of New York. You get it and I think you are only scratching the surface based on your report. I do not like Casarao like you so I like this area even without it. In Rio, Lapa is similar but smaller and lesser in scale.
The main thing to watch out for is the people on bicycle. They will try to snatch something from you, even from your pockets. The only place that is safe from them is a place that their bikes can't get to.
SocratesNY
04-18-25, 18:22
Already booked flight tickets. So I have to stick to the plan this time. May be my next trip. Thank you for your suggestion.Don't sweat it. I've done it both ways and there are pros and cons to both.
I think I slightly prefer SP first and then RJ, especially if it's been raining a lot in SP. One of my trips earlier this year, I spent 7 days in SP and it rained every day. I decided to extend my stay and head to RJ where the weather was gorgeous. It was a great relaxing way to end the trip.
It just depends on whether you prefer the more chill and relaxing part of your trip to be in the front or back end.
AmorPorFavor
04-18-25, 18:38
Great report. Very useful for the first timer like me.Yes excellent info. Someday soon I will get to Brazil but living in San Diego it is so much easier and cheaper to get to Mexico and Colombia. I fly first class so its a lot to SP. I'm in Tijuana almost every week with a chica and never in the zona. Would I be OK with English and intermediate Spanish in Brazil? Would I be able to communicate well with the girls? Do you speak Portugese?
Great report. Very useful for the first timer like me.Thanks a lor Socrates! Outstanding job. I will be in SP the First week of June a report Will follow, also First week of December.
In your experience is there a month / s when you don't recommend Scandallo or to make It easier when its absolutely most recommended during the year? Of course weather can be a factor?
Is there a way to get the write ups below by Socrates to be put on the top of this thread as a sticky that newbies can refer to without looking for this information?
Would I be OK with English and intermediate Spanish in Brazil? Would I be able to communicate well with the girls? Do you speak Portugese?And yes and no (I don't speak good Portuguese but maybe he does). And if all else fails it's not uncommon to see people communicating with a smart phone translator app.
On my first day in SP, on Wednesday, I went to Scandallo. Everything was as described in forum. I never imagined so many beautiful girls in one place. The girl I took to the hotel, show me nice non-alcoholic drink. It's called something like "tea from Fazenda". Similar to Thai ice tea, tea with milk, lemon and ginger. Very nice non-alcoholic alternative to soda.
Yesterday, I went to Casarao. Its like medium-level nightclub full of all sorts of girls. I was from11:30 till 12:30 and ratio of girls to men was 2-3:1. Girls are not groomed as Scandallo girls, but in some sende more natural. The worst part of Casarao is hotel. I was in are $100 room. I know there are are $50 rooms, bit I do not know how to make it smaller. Also, a window in the shower to the corridor looks very strange.
Is there a way to get the write ups below by Socrates to be put on the top of this thread as a sticky that newbies can refer to without looking for this information?They're in the Reports of Distinction, which is where I was going to put them, but Lalabo beat me to it. I think the RODs is good enough. That's where all newbies should go first before asking a bunch of endless questions, the answers to which usually have already been answered time and time again. Thoroughly educate yourself first, then ask informed questions, and people will be happy to help you.
Is there a way to get the write ups below by Socrates to be put on the top of this thread as a sticky that newbies can refer to without looking for this information?I was going to add it but Lalabo already did.
KrumeLurer
04-18-25, 20:30
I suspect those prices are in brasilian reals?
Hobbying:
With some of the recent discussions devolving into subtle or not subtle jabs as to the right way to hobby, I want to put the following disclaimer.
I believe is NO RIGHT WAY to hobby! Everyone has different tastes, budgets, approaches, goals, etc. You can go visit as many different venues as you want or stick to a select few that you repeat often. Spend as little or as much as your budget allows or your heart desires! Fuck as much or little as you want!
Here are my personal experiences and YMMV.
I generally come to Brazil for 1 week every 2 months. Therefore, time is my most valuable resource. I also am fortunate enough that I have a high enough budget that I can afford to go to the more high-end venues frequently and often. My work schedule also generally leaves me little time for afternoon excursions. I personally prefer the environment of a boate like Scandallo, where I get the chance to see the girl in person, get a chance to chat her up and see if we have good chemistry and see if we vibe, as opposed to a point and shoot option of clinicas or online outcalls / incalls.
Boates:
Scandallo:
Based on the above, it's no wonder Scandallo is my favorite place to visit in Brazil. It's a luxurious venue with good food and good drinks and they bring 100-250 girls together for me to chat up, size up and select for an overnight date. Saves me so much time and legwork as opposed to other venues like clinicas or online options (escorts or Seeking or its Brazilian version MP), which would take multiple visits and still might not get the same results or quality. It's almost like speed dating version of Seeking / freelancers, but you can choose who to approach and go at it at your own pace.
Scandallo Lounge is divided into mainly3 areas, an outdoor terrace (small one by day and then a large one later at night), a restaurant and a disco / club area. You can talk to girls in a quieter setting of the terrace or restaurant (but has darker lighting) or dance and party in the disco.
The average quality of the girls who work there are, in my experience and opinion, unrivalled anywhere in Brazil (some would say all of the Americas or even the world) in terms of looks, charisma, style, intelligence, etc. I've met many professionals and talented artists who worked there from lawyers, doctors, engineers, teachers, nurses. Etc. And of course, many students, models, artists, dancers, etc. For a girl to work in Scandallo, it isn't as simple as showing up and paying their entry fee, which isn't cheap. They have to submit photos of themselves and go for an interview. I've had a few girls I've met at other boates, who I thought had the looks for working at Scandallo get turned down. They were told they either weren't put together enough or should get more experience working at other higher end boates like Connections (sister club of Scandallo) or Bamboa before they reapply again. I am sure the months / seasons of the year also has something to do with their rejection. During the quieter months in the summer, when many of the girls are traveling abroad (or Brazilian winter), they probably would have gotten accepted.
Once they get accepted, they have to pay an initial entrance fee of $300 for their first day working at the club. Although I've heard some girls get that waved as they are so hot or refined / elegant and the club management want them to come to attract clients. If they work 8 hours or if a client takes them out of the club for a "saida", they will get a free invitation back the next business day. They are expected to work 5 days a week if they want to get continuous free invitations. They can elect to take Saturday or Mondays off (on top of Sundays). They can change their day off each week when they submit their schedule. Once they skip a work day, they will have to restart the first day $300 admission process all over again.
Therefore, a girl who isn't hot enough or have a shitty or sharky personality or don't have whatever clients look for, they will have a sunk cost of $300 plus whatever they consume in terms of food and drinks that clients don't pay for. That weeds out the lower end girls as they have to compete with other young and hot girls who might be intelligent, stylish, elegant, sexy, etc. And they have to PAY to compete, or on subsequent working days invest their time to compete.
Some of the best girls can show up late or whenever they want as they can get a client whenever they show up.
For guys, their cost is $300 before 7:00 pm (All count toward consumption) and $500 after 7:00 pm ($300 toward consumption). What that basically means is that there is a $200 cover charge after 7:00 pm, and you are expected to spend a minimum of $300 on drinks, food, tobacco products, etc. I find it pretty easy to spend $300 per visit and rarely go under that, unless it's a quick visit on the way to the airport.
If you plan to visit Scandallo more than 1 or 2 x within a 6-month period and / or are going with friends, it's is good advice to get a bottle of your favorite hard liquor. You pay less per drink and the bottle is held for 6 months. The bottle also acts as a placeholder on any table you are sitting at should you go walk around. I usually get a bottle of gin as that's what the girls usually drinks. Some will also drink vodka, tequila and champagne. I find both good and bad whiskey wasted on the girls. If you are going with friends, you can even split the cost of a bottle as everyone would have $300 consumption anyway.
Most of the girls I've spoken to recently have been asking anywhere between $1,000 to $3,000 for a short time romp in the adjacent hotel. Time can range from 60 to 120 minutes depending on how you negotiate. It is generally just an opening ask, and they will usually take $700 to $1,200. A few girls will only come down to $1,500 to $2,000. How far down they will go will depends on many factors. While you are sizing them up, they are also reading you. If they like you, whether it's your looks, hygiene, personality, etc. Can be a factor. Whether they think you are a newbie or a rich gringo sometimes can be a factor. The time and day of the week also matters, as they will take less during quieter times of the day (afternoon or early evenings) or less busy days of the week (Mondays and Saturdays).
Suffice it so say, with so many hot women to suit all tastes, all my friends and I have had no issue getting girls for $1,000 to $1,200, and even with some of my friends who like to haggle and play hard to get netting girls regularly for $700-900 for ST (Short Time).
I personally do not enjoy haggling and don't negotiate too hard so usually just make 1 counter offer that I feel is fair based on what my friends, colleagues and other local friends have been paying ($1,000 to $1,200) and move on. Even then, my successful rate is probably 90-95%.
For ST visits in the hotel next door, Scandallo now charges $300 per hour, which is the same as the takeout "saida" fee. Time starts when the girl opens the door with the keycard to the room. Any time over one hour is charged at a prorated rate.
Short time trysts probably only make up 5-10% of my encounters in Scandallo. I almost always take a girl out of the club at the end of the night for an overnight / pernoite date until the morning. For LT (Long time) dates, I generally pay $1,500 to $2,000. Occasionally, I've paid $2,500 for a girl I really want and once in a blue moon, I've paid $3,000 for a unicorn that I just had to have.
I also make sure to discuss what I want in terms of service and time. For me that's at minimum, BBBJ, DFK, have stamina in both oral and intercourse, as I can last awhile. I also make sure we agree on when they will leave, as I always want a girl to stay until at least late morning for morning sex and then breakfast in bed. If they need to leave earlier, then I either move on or negotiate a lower "gift" for less time.
You can fill in your own requirements in terms of acronyms or requirements. These girls aren't shy and have heard it all, whether you ask for CIM, anal, BBFS, reverse gangbang, 2 guys tag teaming her, BDSM, eating sushi off of them, pegging, waterworks, visiting swing clubs, going to a love model with a pole for a private strip show, etc. Just be direct, but also tactful or smooth in asking for what you want. Nothing worse than being vague and then being disappointed if you didn't get something that you "must" have or presume is included or they leave earlier than you expect.
Generally, GFE (BBBJ, Kissing, DATY) is included, but after 1 instance (thankfully out of 100+) of a girl wanting to do CBJ, I've started making sure even on GFE. I've found the average IOP and service level of the girls at Scandallo to be higher than other boates or venues. It's a by-product of the more relaxing and luxurious environment, vetting process by management, ability of clients to size up the girl, the girl generally being smart enough to want a loyal repeat client, clients who are usually more demanding and not settle for shitty service, girls who are usually more refined and forward thinking, and the ability of clients to complain about a girl to management.
Some of my friends and colleagues (as well as many of the locals) go to Scandallo just to socialize and get numbers for a future meet up. Many locals (which makes up probably 90% of the client base) also go just to drink and party, whether with clients or just with the girls or to get cheap feels.
After reading about an instance of a poster being extorted / scammed into paying a girl to spend time with her, I have to chime in. YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY A GIRL FOR SPENDING TIME WITH YOU! They can ask for a tip when she leaves you. Heck, she can ask for drinks, food, etc. It is your right to say yes or no. I've had less than a handful of girls ask for a tip when we couldn't come to an agreement after she spent some social time with me. I've also politely declined each time and they just shrugged and went on their way. Tipping isn't a cultural thing in Brazil and they usually only ask that of gringos.
They will NOT kick you out simply for spending social time with a girl and not compensating her for social time. If a girl or any security guard makes that demand or threat, ask to speak to management. I've asked a few managers and head waiters at the club about this and they all said it's BS and they would ban the girl and fire the security guard on the spot of it was brought to their attention.
To recap for pricing:
$300 minimum consumption (All times) + $200 cover charge after 7:00 PM.
$300ST hotel for 1 hour or $300 take out "Saida" fee.
ST: Generally $900 to $1,200 with a select few at $7-800 or $1,500 to $2,000.
LT: Generally $1,500 to $2,000, with a select few at $2,500 to $3,000.
Bomboa.
A smaller boate with a family restaurant feel. The club is centrally located, which might be its best attribute. I've visited on numerous occasions for a change of pace and at least half the time, I left and went to Scandallo afterwards, as I didn't find any girl to my liking that were available. The number of girls varies from 25 to 50 depending on the night. I almost always see a girl I like, but often times they are occupied. Overall, I like the service and more relaxed vibe, but the limited amount of girls at times make it hit or miss for me.
The pricing is very similar to Scandallo as my last visit in 2024 was $350 all consumption. They also tack on a 15% service charge. They also have a happy hour / executive lunch special during the day at about the consumption.
The girls ask a little less than Scandallo and you can get them for $600-1,000 for ST and $1,000 to $1,500 for LT.
Caf Photo:
Also centrally located and near Bomboa. It's a luxurious smaller version of Scandallo and I've had so good pulls in the past before they finished building the hotel. However, my last few visits (and those of my friends) have been mediocre at best. The quantity and quality of the girls have gone downhill the past 12-18 months.
Pricing is also similar to Scandallo as it was $350 with $200 being consumption. They also tack on a 15% service charge.
The girls ask a little less than Scandallo and you can get them for $800-1,000 for ST and $1,000 to $1,500 for LT.
Gauguin Club:
Located by WTC so lots of businessmen and gringo visitors. Went there for first time earlier this year and did like the setup. It's a bit like Caf Photo, but with better talent (similar to Bomboa) I forgot the entry, but I think we took the $200 option with less consumption.
Girls were asking prices similar to Scandallo.
It's an okay boate to check out if you are in the area.
Clinicas:
I generally separate them into 3 tiers. High-end, regular and budget.
My favorite high end ones are:
The Palms (Tropical theme, Ipad selection, good service) $800 for 60 min.
Oro Spa (Modern Spa look, ipad selection, good service) $750 for 60 min.
Lotus Lounge (Modern Spa look, ipad selection, good service) $750 for 60 min.
Regular Clinicas (I've mostly gone to the ones in Moeama area):
Moema Prime: (good roster, good selection of girls, good to amazing service) $330 for 60 min.
Miruna (moderate roster, okay selection of girls, good service) $330 for 60 min.
Abbobora (Biggest roster, usually hotter selection of girls, but service is hit or miss): $400 for 60 min.
57 Friends (moderate roster, okay selection of girls, good to amazing service) $330 for 60 min. Turns into a boate after 8 or 9 pm.
Enjoy (moderate roster, okay selection of girls, good service) $330 for 60 min.
Budget:
Tangara (huge roster, good selection of girls, okay to great service) $240 for 60 min.
Yankin (large roster, good selection of girls, okay to great service) $240 for 60 min.
FFlintstone69
04-18-25, 21:05
I don't see any recent posts about the new Visa requirements from USA so I am trying but it won't let me upload my passport WTF.
Is there a way to get the write ups below by Socrates to be put on the top of this thread as a sticky that newbies can refer to without looking for this information?AFAIK this site doesn't support stickies or pinning posts at the top of the thread like some forums do. One option is to highlight useful reports by adding it to "Reports of Distinction" (ROD). Reading RODs is the easiest and faster way to find most important and useful reports without reading through tons of pages.
SocratesNY
04-19-25, 00:14
I suspect those prices are in brasilian reals?I know I wrote a lot. But the FIRST paragraph of my FIRST post (of 2) states.
Note: All mentions of money are in Brazilian Real, unless denoted by USD. It is also best to not quote ALL of a long post during a reply, but just the relevant parts.
Hello comrades,
I have already mentioned before I use to rent rooms for long stays in shared houses called "republicas". Not the ones in downtown but very close to universities. It's a fantastic cultural experience as you may imagine because you can interact with locals, mostly civilian workers, students, cops, escorts, teachers, etc. In their daily lives. The rooms have a monthly reasonable price. I paid are R2000 for the month with private bathroom they call "suite" hahaha very funny.
Well, most of the houses will let you bring visits but you have to announce them with the owner of the house. The last time I stayed almost one month in a Republica and behaved very well, until the very last night I decided to break the rules hehehehe.
So, I arrenged with two gorgeous brunettes, one of them I met in Bomboa and we had very good chemestry. In order not to bring too much attention we scheluded our encounter very late a Wednesday night, around midnight. The girls arrived in the car of the brunette from Bomboa, we talked a few minutes inside the car where she introduced me to her friend. We kissed in the back seat while I was checking the merch my friend was bringin for me. It was good flesh and dick went inmediately hard. Then I checked the lights of the house to be turned off in most of the rooms. Everything looked safe and sound so we entered the house walking like cats trying not to make any noise.
To get to my room we first must walk through a patio where there are chairs and tables where people of the house talk, smoke, make barbecues or do their stuff. A shared area. When I went to receive the girls there was nobody in this patio, but when walking back ten minutes later, hand in hand with two girls in high heels and very tight jeans, dressed not too bitchy fortunately, there are 3 young guys talking and drinking beers in one of the tables. Those guys were policemen hahahaha already in civilian clothes, shorts and flip flops (havaianas).
You can imagine how those guys looked at us and all the things they said when they saw us walking the long corridor of rooms till the end and finally turning to the left. They were cheering like it was a soccer game! The girls were laughing of course. Brazilians are just like that, nice people (gente boa).
It was an awesome threesome in my room. I paid each girl $R1500 and invited a sandwich after our little party (festinha). As a matter of fact, they call it festinha when you make a threesome or an orgy. I paid a bit more because I made them wear toys and customs I purchased. You can see one of the girls with a clown nose. I'm a fetish guy hehehehe and girls love it! one of them had such a powerful orgasm while wearing that mask.
I left Sao Paulo the day after and I didn't have to share the kitchen this time. I'm sure everyone would have mentioned that I brought two expensive GPS (garotas de programa) to the house. I spent more with the two girls than the monthly rent of the room. And the policemen knew it.
The owner of the house didn't say a thing, because I'm sure he watched everything in the recorded video from security cams hahahaha those houses have cams in every shared area.
I'll be back of course.
SocratesNY
04-19-25, 00:27
In your experience is there a month / s when you don't recommend Scandallo or to make It easier when its absolutely most recommended during the year? Of course weather can be a factor?It depends on what your preferences are. Some prefer a less crazy or crowded time, while others prefer it.
Generally, there are more girls and hotter girls from September / October to / May / June.
The reason is mainly two fold. 1) Summer time in the US and Europe is Brazilian winter so it's colder in Brazil 2) Many of the hotter girls travel between May and September to Europe where weather is nicer. It can be on their own dime or as arm candy for rich clients. Other girls choose this time to work overseas as more tourists are traveling to Europe, ME or Asia during US summer months.
Also it's wild at Scandallo during F1 week in November as well as NFL week in September.
SocratesNY
04-19-25, 00:34
Completely agree about being far away for the action, except it's next door to the Gauguin Club. I wouldn't stay there for that reason, but I would definitely visit the Gauguin Club if you're staying at the Sheraton.I was staying at the Grand Hyatt, which is also very close to Gaughin and the main reason my friends and I stopped by. We spent about an hour there and decided to head over to Scandallo and the talent level was night and day. As it was Wednesday night.
Not the ones in downtown but very close to universities. It's a fantastic cultural experience as you may imagine because you can interact with locals, mostly civilian workers, students, cops, escorts, teachers, etc. In their daily lives. The rooms have a monthly reasonable price. This post has little to do with sex. I was trekking in Patagonia recently. I met 3 different brazileiras on different occasions. One is born in Northern Europe and we stayed in the same room in a hostel right near the trail head. At that time, I did not know her mother is Brazilian. In the evening she came up to me like a kid telling me "We set our alarm clock at 2 AM" to go hiking at 3 AM. They were 2 of them in my room. She then invited me to go with them. I did not eat dinner and just went to bed like them so I can get enough sleep. It turned out to be a trip of the lifetime. I can only tell you what my friend told me after seeing the photos I took is that we arrived at the golden hour. Brazillians can be extremely warm even to strangers. The other two girls I met were similarly friendly. She asked about my travel plan and that was when she told me her mother is from Brazil when I mentioned Brazil. I thought that explains why she was so friendly.
I cropped out the million dollar view on purpose. Haha.
Before I went to Patagonia, I met this one on the street. She claimed to be a college student needing money. She said she would do anything I want but then told me the sex would be covered later or just the first time. I did not like the lie. She behaved somewhat like a working girl but I think she is not because where could she find work? We were oing to have sex once before but she brough a friend and her friend would hide in my bathroom so she won't interfere. I refused. This used to happen regularly in the city where I live in US. Many college students would come to work during weekend to make money or to experience life and they would share a hotel room.
SocratesNY
04-19-25, 18:16
Would I be OK with English and intermediate Spanish in Brazil? Would I be able to communicate well with the girls? Do you speak Portugese?I speak beginner Portuguese. I really should be more fluent considering how many times and days I've been in Brazil the past 5 yesrs. But I don't practice much when at home as I am too busy. I am also spoiled as all my co workers speak English and they act as translators when needed.
I can understand more than I can speak and I get by with speaking Portuanol. Half Spanish and half Portuguese.
But the first few years, I used mostly translator in Scandallo. The girls I met are usually patient and familiar with its usage.
Some guys don't want to put the effort into using it or find it awkward or felt shame using it. I didn't. It just depends on how much effort you put forward.
I've spent 24-48 hours with countless girls where 80% of our conversation was with Google translate. We would go out to dinner, clubbing, do tourist stuff etc.
Google translate conversation mode is especially powerful in a quiet environment like your hotel room. You can just leave it on auto and carry a pretty fluid conversation. As long as both parties don't speak too much at once and they wait for the translation to finish and speak after the beep.
With that said, does it help if you speak fluent Portuguese? Of course. In many cases, they are more relaxed and comfortable. But you can get them into that mood if you are charismatic, treat them with respect, etc.
SocratesNY
04-19-25, 18:24
Thanks a lor Socrates! Outstanding job. I will be in SP the First week of June a report Will follow, also First week of December.
In your experience is there a month / s when you don't recommend Scandallo or to make It easier when its absolutely most recommended during the year? Of course weather can be a factor?June might be a bit slower at Scandallo as it's Brazilian winter. Some of the girls will be traveling.
1st week of December should be normal or rocking as girls want to make that holiday paper.
But SP and Scandallo in particular is so big, that even at its "low", it's incredible.
I recall when my boys and I first visited during the pandemic. There was a 9 pm curfew and the disco and big outdoor terrace wasn't even open. The first impression we had was still WOW! And we are all experienced hobbyist having mongered all over the world. If Scandallo at 30-40% strength was that good. Imagine how it is now at 80%. I say 80%, as colleagues and locals say it was even better pre pandemic.
BusinessTravl
04-19-25, 20:13
Thanks a lot for some great reports! Very useful as I will soon travel to Braz for the first time. Will definitely check out Scandallo. How is talent in May? Will try collect numbers.
BusinessTravl
04-21-25, 11:55
Have anyone mongered in Santos? Any tips to share from that place?
Very nice beach spot Guaruja-Santos, perfect transportation. There is a metro station in SP Jabaquara that connects the bus terminal.
I haven't mongered there, but when I got to Santos a Sunday morning around 10 am, there was a very broad street with lots of bars and people still in heavy party at 10 am. So debauchery is assured.
The beauty on the beach was interesting. Paulistans arriving at the beach to enjoy a weekend, warm sea, being a winter morning. Brazil.
If anyone interested on my videos / pics of spots and more, feel free to drop me a pm. As you can see I have a solid photo / video archive dating from the early 2000's.
Have anyone mongered in Santos? Any tips to share from that place?
TattooedTuna
04-29-25, 19:20
Finally getting around to writing this after a busy month dealing with personal matters. I won't repeat what's already covered extensively on the forums—just sharing some key takeaways as a first-timer.
Accommodations.
I stayed in Moema & Vila Mariana, trying three hotels:
Wyndham Ibirapuera Convention Plaza Hotel.
Mercure São Paulo Moema Times Square.
Mercure São Paulo Grand Plaza Paulista.
All were GF-friendly and well-located, but airport noise in Moema is no joke. Compared to the Wyndham, the Mercure Moema Times Square was the better choice.
Clinicas.
The Palms.
The girl insisted on CBJ (the only one I got all trip), which was odd, but she was hot. Upon arrival, the front desk hands you an iPad to browse available girls—you can pick three for a live presentation. They also have TS options if that's your thing.
Moema Prime / 57 Friends.
Girls are presented in person, but nothing caught my eye, so I didn't session.
Miruna.
You sit on a couch, and each girl introduces herself with a name and a cheek kiss. After the lineup, the receptionist asks who you'd like. Quality was solid.
Clubs.
Casarão.
Enter through the right-side door—bouncer pats you down and checks ID. Inside, present your credit card, get a drink ticket, and proceed into the main area. Spot a girl you like? Smile or wave her over to negotiate. Sessions happen at the adjacent hotel, but you can return for more fun afterward. I took one girl overnight to my hotel for are $700, and she was amazing.
Scandallo Lounge.
Similar setup to Casarão but far more upscale—better ambiance, hotter girls, and higher prices. The big difference? The hotel rooms are inside the building, so everything happens on-site.
Pro Tip: Save Scandallo for the end of your trip. If you go too early, other places might feel underwhelming afterward.
SIM Card.
Got an eSIM from TIM at Ibirapuera Shopping Center (3rd floor) with just my passport. Important: Ask them to disable autopay to avoid next-month charges.
The Palms.
The girl insisted on CBJ (the only one I got all trip), which was odd, but she was hot. Upon arrival, the front desk hands you an iPad to browse available girlsyou can pick three for a live presentation. They also have TS options if that's your thing.Unless things have changed, it sounds like Sharon because you get to pick 3 and the ts option. The live presentation is giving you a chance to interview the girl. You could avoid the CBJ if you wanted.
Four visits during my time here. Had a great time partying at night on Wednesday and Thursday night with SocratesNY and my harem from the last trip. Ended up taking two new ones for the first two nights and the just kept two till Sunday so I could have variety in demand 😜.
Came in Monday afternoon before my flight and SocratesNY convinced me to change my flight so we could party one more night (wasn't very hard to at that point of the day high as fuck and slightly drunk) and party we did 🤣. Back again on Tuesday as I write this but going to take it easy tonight.
Prices are staying the same 800-1000 R for an hour here and 2000 R for an overnight. I don't negotiate hard anymore. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and that is that. The girls know we are regular gringos and they have seen us a few times around plus we know all the waiters and bouncers so that helps in the negotiations. Again, YMMY.
Really no point in getting numbers and trying to get them outside the club. They aren't going to come out for cheaper and they know what you're trying to pull. Just like all the other fucking Brazilians trying the same thing. Enjoy your time in the club with its awesome laid back luxury atmosphere, tons of hot women dressed elegantly and a party waiting to happen if you are willing to let it flow!
Sunday night we hit up Casarao and it was the same as the last time I went. Much lower quality of girls and the overall venue. Did take one home for an overnight who was cute but nothing great.
Stayed at my regular hotel — Renaissance and it worked out well .. like the area and it is walkable to many restaurants and bars. Suite upgrades cleared beforehand and we had a nice suite with a total of three guests allowed. One night they checked the registrations of the girls and I had to add the third girl to SocratesNY’s room but after that, they didn’t say anything. They do charge a $45 per day extra guest fee.
Can't wait for my return trip!!
Pneumoniall
05-01-25, 03:00
I am vacationing in Sao Paulo right now. I have a very hard time getting the girls to come to my hotel room because all of them that I talked to want me to send them the security deposit in advance first before they can come to my hotel. There is no way in hell I would send my money to anyone I don't know. What if I got scammed? What if the person that I sent the money to took the money and ran away? There is nothing protecting my money when it's out of my hand. That's how people get scammed by making that mistake. I wouldn't want to be one of the victims of such fraud. But if I don't do it, how am I supposed to get any of them to come to my room? I even suggested to show them the prove of my hotel reservation along with the room number I am staying in to prove that I am legit but that won't work either. They won't take that as an alternative. It's either their way or no way. Some of them even gave me an attitude when I denied their request by telling them I don't trust them with my money. What the hell is going on here? What are they afraid of to the point that they have to ask you to send them the money in advance? I understand that they don't have anything to lose should the clients stood them up or they could just take the money and run if they really want to piss them off. But on the other hand, there is nothing protecting the clients from losing their money when it's out of their hands. That's not fair, isn't it? Anyway, it doesn't matter. I am still going to stand my ground by not sending my money to anyone I don't know in advance not knowing what's going to happen to it. These girls have their own phone number that they advertised their ads on the websites like.
www.splove.com.br
https://clubmodel.com.br
www.fatalmodel.com
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo
There is also a website called https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=276 which is the website where the locals use for the info on how to find the escorts and reporting the feedback about the experience with them. Let me know if anyone knows of any good escort agency websites in Sao Paulo where there is no advance payment required.
Really no point in getting numbers and trying to get them outside the club. They aren't going to come out for cheaper and they know what you're trying to pull. Just like all the other fucking Brazilians trying the same thing. Enjoy your time in the club with its awesome laid back luxury atmosphere, tons of hot women dressed elegantly and a party waiting to happen if you are willing to let it flow!
Not cheaper but it can work both way. I am going to give an example, and let's call it an exception. A college girl who can only work one day a week. You took her number and pay her fair club rate, would she come? I bet she would because she does not have to pay the club and the man does not have to pay for the room. This also works to her favor timewise because she actually gets paid.
Or get her to come at a fair price before she goes club to work , so you do her first at a lower total cost. This way she has money in the bag, and can drive a harder bargain to make man pay more. LOL
If you are a weekend warrior then there is not much point doing so but if you stay for substantial amount of time. You can session in the club and get numbers. Why not go and do 1 or 2 in the club one night and get enough numbers so you can have one for each night the rest of the week at a fair price to the girl. The other way is go to pay the club (entrada+ takeout) each night to bring the girl back to your place so it depends on how you value your money or if you go there for the club or the girl
Steve 9696
05-01-25, 17:51
I am vacationing in Sao Paulo right now. I have a very hard time getting the girls to come to my hotel room because all of them that I talked to want me to send them the security deposit in advance first before they can come to my hotel. There is no way in hell I would send my money to anyone I don't know. What if I got scammed? What if the person that I sent the money to took the money and ran away? There is nothing protecting my money when it's out of my hand. That's how people get scammed by making that mistake. I wouldn't want to be one of the victims of such fraud. But if I don't do it, how am I supposed to get any of them to come to my room? I even suggested to show them the prove of my hotel reservation along with the room number I am staying in to prove that I am legit but that won't work either. They won't take that as an alternative. It's either their way or no way. Some of them even gave me an attitude when I denied their request by telling them I don't trust them with my money. What the hell is going on here? What are they afraid of to the point that they have to ask you to send them the money in advance? I understand that they don't have anything to lose should the clients stood them up or they could just take the money and run if they really want to piss them off. But on the other hand, there is nothing protecting the clients from losing their money when it's out of their hands. That's not fair, isn't it? Anyway, it doesn't matter. I am still going to stand my ground by not sending my money to anyone I don't know in advance not knowing what's going to happen to it. These girls have their own phone number that they advertised their ads on the websites like.
www.splove.com.br
https://clubmodel.com.br
www.fatalmodel.com
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo
There is also a website called https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=276 which is the website where the locals use for the info on how to find the escorts and reporting the feedback about the experience with them. Let me know if anyone knows of any good escort agency websites in Sao Paulo where there is no advance payment required.I guess my question is why are you doing outcall? Go to the clubs. Scandallo. Casarao. Meet the girl in person. Check the chemistry. Fuck on site. Or bring her back to your room. You are in the best club scene on planet earth. Skip the web and prepayment. Go get a girl in person. There is no better city to do so and if you don't take advantage you will wish later you had.
Pneumoniall
05-01-25, 23:19
I guess my question is why are you doing outcall? Go to the clubs. Scandallo. Casarao. Meet the girl in person. Check the chemistry. Fuck on site. Or bring her back to your room. You are in the best club scene on planet earth. Skip the web and prepayment. Go get a girl in person. There is no better city to do so and if you don't take advantage you will wish later you had.Do I have to pay the bar fine before I can take the girl to my room?
The first time a girl ask me to pay first got my wtf reaction. I soon learn that club scene you have to pay first, spas the two I went to you pay afterwards. Getting them to come to your place was a double headache. For one most airbnb wants you to get a pic of their ID document and have you send it to them for them to send to security to let them in. And most girls give you a hard time on this process in addition want to charge you more. Also if they are in a club you have to pay for them to leave. This scenario I hated about Sao Paulo and I am anxious to find away around it. But the sex will be great no matter where you have it with them. Thats 99% charles barkley guranteed.
I guess my question is why are you doing outcall? Go to the clubs. Scandallo. Casarao. Meet the girl in person. Check the chemistry. Fuck on site. Or bring her back to your room. You are in the best club scene on planet earth. Skip the web and prepayment. Go get a girl in person. There is no better city to do so and if you don't take advantage you will wish later you had..
Four visits during my time here. Had a great time partying at night on Wednesday and Thursday night with SocratesNY and my harem from the last trip. Ended up taking two new ones for the first two nights and the just kept two till Sunday so I could have variety in demand 😜.
Came in Monday afternoon before my flight and SocratesNY convinced me to change my flight so we could party one more night (wasn't very hard to at that point of the day high as fuck and slightly drunk) and party we did 🤣. Back again on Tuesday as I write this but going to take it easy tonight.
Prices are staying the same 800-1000 R for an hour here and 2000 R for an overnight. I don't negotiate hard anymore. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and that is that. The girls know we are regular gringos and they have seen us a few times around plus we know all the waiters and bouncers so that helps in the negotiations. Again, YMMY.
Really no point in getting numbers and trying to get them outside the club. They aren't going to come out for cheaper and they know what you're trying to pull. Just like all the other fucking Brazilians trying the same thing. Enjoy your time in the club with its awesome laid back luxury atmosphere, tons of hot women dressed elegantly and a party waiting to happen if you are willing to let it flow!
Sunday night we hit up Casarao and it was the same as the last time I went. Much lower quality of girls and the overall venue. Did take one home for an overnight who was cute but nothing great.
Stayed at my regular hotel Renaissance and it worked out well .. like the area and it is walkable to many restaurants and bars. Suite upgrades cleared beforehand and we had a nice suite with a total of three guests allowed. One night they checked the registrations of the girls and I had to add the third girl to SocratesNYs room but after that, they didnt say anything. They do charge a $45 per day extra guest fee.
Can't wait for my return trip!!It has worked for me before and stated it in my last report. I tool a couple of numbers and I met one of the chicas at my hotel for less than 600 reals. You have to be patient and not be in a rush. In my last trip, I met a girl at who works both at Casarao and Scandallo. On my way out from Casarao stopped to talk to her as I noticed she had been 2 guys in quick sucsession. I told her she must an expert as she had 2 guys done so quickly, she replied itwasnt 2 guys, but three guys. I asked for her number and told her I would see her tommorow at Casarao and she replied She wouldn't be available as She would be working at Scandallo. Same girl Casarao 500 reals, Scandallo 1000 reals. You know which option I chose. She came to my hotel for 500 reals. No harm in trying.
I guess my question is why are you doing outcall? Go to the clubs. Scandallo. Casarao. Meet the girl in person. Check the chemistry. Fuck on site. Or bring her back to your room. You are in the best club scene on planet earth. Skip the web and prepayment. Go get a girl in person. There is no better city to do so and if you don't take advantage you will wish later you had.Never pay in advance. There are tonnes of girls available. Photoacompahantes, com, fatalmodel.com, gpguia.net, gparena.net and so many other websites. The last two are Brazilian forums with reports and reviews. Also go to the prives and clinicas, clubs and massage parlours. See them live and take numbers. A lot of the pictures on websites are either photoshopped or old. What you order, might not be what you get. Do some research and be patient.
TattooedTuna
05-02-25, 16:13
Finally getting around to writing this after a busy month dealing with personal matters. I won't repeat what's already covered extensively on the forumsjust sharing some key takeaways as a first-timer.
Accommodations.
I stayed in Moema & Vila Mariana, trying three hotels:
Wyndham Ibirapuera Convention Plaza Hotel.
Mercure So Paulo Moema Times Square.
Mercure So Paulo Grand Plaza Paulista.
All were GF-friendly and well-located, but airport noise in Moema is no joke. Compared to the Wyndham, the Mercure Moema Times Square was the better choice..The overnight girl was 700 R, typo.
Steve 9696
05-02-25, 19:35
Do I have to pay the bar fine before I can take the girl to my room?Yes the clubs have an exit fee if you take the girl out. It's not high. Scandallo is the highest and for good reason. It's $50 usd. Casarao is prob like $15/20.
They are a bit different arrangement. Casarao is def more a freelancers environment so more ymmv. Scandallo is technically all freelancers. But if you want to work there you better be top looks and top service or you won't last a week. Not saying you can't have a dud but its rare. For my money Globe in Switzerland is the only place worldwide where I feel 100%!guaranteed good service. But I'm going to say Scandallo is 90+%. As always ymmv.
Pneumoniall
05-03-25, 02:33
I am currently staying at Wyndham Sao Paulo Paulista near the shopping district on Avenida Paulista. It's a nice hotel for the price.
BusinessTravl
05-03-25, 13:44
Went to Scandallo yesterday. Wow what a place! Probably the most beautiful women I've seen in one place, insanely many stunners. The club, personell and food was also nice.
I'm fully aware of that this is a luxury club, however I found the prices to be exceptionally high. With entry at 300 and 300 to rent a room to bring the girl. You've technically spent almost the price of a girl other places. Spoke with like 6-10 girls. Most of them demanded or started off with 2 k reais for one hour. And 3-5 k reais for saidas / outcalls. Ended up with one who accepted 1 k reais. Which was my absolute maximum, and I think this should be more than enough. Most of them ended up on 1.5.
All girls I spoke to said it was a slow evening night with not so many guys but many girls.
So beware to come her before 7 pm for a small reduction in price. 500 is way to much, not worth it is my personal opinion!
Anyone with inputs on pricing and girls in Scandallo? Anything below 1 k reais seemed difficult to impossible. Collected a couple of numbers.
Think I will go for som clinicas where I don't have to spent 600 before getting laid.
Tangara and 57 house is okay for a spa I guess. I did those 2 but never went back. Well I did go back to tangara but didn't select anyone. I did casarao virtually every night. Finding only Sunday and Monday slow. 400-700 for girl based on 1 HR, but 100 for the room. Entrance is 60 but you get 2 free beers so just say entrance is free.
Went to Scandallo yesterday. Wow what a place! Probably the most beautiful women I've seen in one place, insanely many stunners. The club, personell and food was also nice.
I'm fully aware of that this is a luxury club, however I found the prices to be exceptionally high. With entry at 300 and 300 to rent a room to bring the girl. You've technically spent almost the price of a girl other places. Spoke with like 6-10 girls. Most of them demanded or started off with 2 k reais for one hour. And 3-5 k reais for saidas / outcalls. Ended up with one who accepted 1 k reais. Which was my absolute maximum, and I think this should be more than enough. Most of them ended up on 1.5.
All girls I spoke to said it was a slow evening night with not so many guys but many girls.
So beware to come her before 7 pm for a small reduction in price. 500 is way to much, not worth it is my personal opinion!
Anyone with inputs on pricing and girls in Scandallo? Anything below 1 k reais seemed difficult to impossible. Collected a couple of numbers.
Think I will go for som clinicas where I don't have to spent 600 before getting laid..
Tangara and 57 house is okay for a spa I guess. I did those 2 but never went back. Well I did go back to tangara but didn't select anyone. I did casarao virtually every night. Finding only Sunday and Monday slow. 400-700 for girl based on 1 HR, but 100 for the room. Entrance is 60 but you get 2 free beers so just say entrance is free.
.I went to Casarao and the quality was much better than previous trip and was consistent for 3 nights straight. All shapes and sizes and decent price. I went to Scandallo spent a few hours and left. Very ordinary looking girls and a few good looking ones. It was back to Casarao and left fulfilled. 600 reals versus 1600 reals. No brainer.
BusinessTravl
05-04-25, 17:38
Thanks for the very valuable tips my man! Would check out later, how's Sunday nights? Any girls below 20 years old. Naturan looking or a lot of sillycones like in Scandallo.
Loved that place (Scandallo) but to pay 300 to rent the room was hard for me to accept. Its like one night in a hotel.
I went to Casarao and the quality was much better than previous trip and was consistent for 3 nights straight. All shapes and sizes and decent price. I went to Scandallo spent a few hours and left. Very ordinary looking girls and a few good looking ones. It was back to Casarao and left fulfilled. 600 reals versus 1600 reals. No brainer.
I am currently staying at Wyndham Sao Paulo Paulista near the shopping district on Avenida Paulista. It's a nice hotel for the price.How good is wifi in the room?
Do they have a laundry in the hotel?
Last time I stayed in Allure Moema. Hotel was good, wifi was very good (180 MB / s download, 120 MB / s upload), and they have laundry in the basement.
Unfortunately, airport noise make it impossible to work during daytime.
Pneumoniall
05-05-25, 13:56
How good is wifi in the room?
Do they have a laundry in the hotel?
Last time I stayed in Allure Moema. Hotel was good, wifi was very good (180 MB / s download, 120 MB / s upload), and they have laundry in the basement.
Unfortunately, airport noise make it impossible to work during daytime.It doesn't have a laundry machine in the guestroom but you can put all your clothes in the laundry bag and leave it in your room for the housekeeper to take care of it for you. I didn't utilize that service because it was quite expensive. I brought my clothes to the laundromat called Lavateria and do it myself instead. That's the closest one and the most convenience one I went to. It is located on the first floor at Fast Shopping Center 3. You have to pay with card to use the washer and the dryer. No laundry detergent needed because it comes with it and the instruction on how to use the machines is written in both English and Portuguese. This is the website https://instabio.cc/4061219zFINNV If you come to Sao Paulo, I suggest you stay at the hotel near Avenida Paulista because it is a shopping center and a tourist attraction with lots of hotels, fancy restaurants, and luxurious shopping malls all located within walking distance. Avenida Paulista will be temporary closed to car traffic every Sunday for people to come out to walk, jog, ride a bike, rollerblade, skateboard, or scooter, get together, and check out the local vender booths along the street. This is the website of the hotel I am staying at https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/pt-br/wyndham/sao-paulo-brazil/wyndham-sao-paulo-paulista/overview
I believe I ask this question before but no one addressed it. I went to scandallo just one time. It was a slow night confirmed very attractive ladies. But there were a few that approached me that I speculated where maybe men / transexual. So that's my question. Does Scandallo allow transexual women in their premises.
Pneumoniall
05-05-25, 17:35
Has anyone hired an escort through this website? https://callgirlsinsaopaulo.com.br/
If so, how did it go?
BusinessTravl
05-05-25, 22:49
Found the lineup to be good on Sunday night. Saw quite a few stunners. Outside street / Area around is shady though.
Totally a no brainer over Scandallo for me as well.
Both girl really beautiful. First one was a young 24 year old natural girl with a slim body with a really nice ass. Other one was close to 30, sillycones.
In the club she would do anything but anal as I understood it. When we came to my hotel she said no to pussylicking / rimming on her and fingering. She did owo and intense kissing with tongue. Girl was beautiful, but found her service to be rushed and not worth what I paid her. And yes I paid up front. What do you guys usually do when you do saidas from Casarao? She promised from 0130 to at least 04. When in the room she said one nut only and started to pack her things just before 03. Very disappointing to be honest, I shouldve made a scene out of it but its too late now. Would not recommend. The club itself is a really nice spot to visit for some fun in Sampa. Just my poor judging.
Sessioned with two girls one 1/2 session and one takeout.
400 for the first one and 1000 plus 150 in saida fee to the reception.
It doesn't have a laundry machine in the guestroom but you can put all your clothes in the laundry bag and leave it in your room for the housekeeper to take care of it for you. I didn't utilize that service because it was quite expensive. I brought my clothes to the laundromat called Lavateria and do it myself instead. That's the closest one and the most convenience one I went to. It is located on the first floor at Fast Shopping Center 3. You have to pay with card to use the washer and the dryer. No laundry detergent needed because it comes with it and the instruction on how to use the machines is written in both English and Portuguese. This is the website https://instabio.cc/4061219zFINNV Thanks for the reply.
What about quality of wifi connection in the room?
If internet is not reliable in the room, I just cannot stay.
Wanderer1000
05-06-25, 00:19
cpfgenerator.net
Will make my first trip to SP soon, and wanted to get more clarity on the local SIM card situation. Having read many of the posts, Knowledge had posted this CPF generator that will provide a number to activate a SIM card and allow the use of public WiFi in places like shopping malls, etc. I've also read that you can go to a TIM store with your passport and they'll be able to fix you up.
Is it best and easiest to get a SIM at GRU? I usually do this at most international airports in the world without a problem, but I ran into problems in Rio a few years ago. I forgot to get set at the airport, and then went to Rio Sul mall after getting settled. The three cell stores I went to told me they couldn't help me since I wasn't a native or something. Very frustrating as none of them spoke English and they turned away and ignored me. Someone back at my hotel told me to go to one of the kiosks and they could fix me up. The kiosk guy had a friend there who spoke English, and they got me set up for cheap after 15 minutes or so.
So, the easiest way to avoid hassles and get set with a local SIM is to use a cell place at GRU and use a CPF generated number? Just trying to get this straight so I can use Uber and Google Maps right away and not feel hassled wasting time and energy. Other newbies are probably curious too. Thanks in advance.
cpfgenerator.net
Will make my first trip to SP soon, and wanted to get more clarity on the local SIM card situation. Having read many of the posts, Knowledge had posted this CPF generator that will provide a number to activate a SIM card and allow the use of public WiFi in places like shopping malls, etc. I've also read that you can go to a TIM store with your passport and they'll be able to fix you up.
Is it best and easiest to get a SIM at GRU? I usually do this at most international airports in the world without a problem, but I ran into problems in Rio a few years ago. I forgot to get set at the airport, and then went to Rio Sul mall after getting settled. The three cell stores I went to told me they couldn't help me since I wasn't a native or something. Very frustrating as none of them spoke English and they turned away and ignored me. Someone back at my hotel told me to go to one of the kiosks and they could fix me up. The kiosk guy had a friend there who spoke English, and they got me set up for cheap after 15 minutes or so.
So, the easiest way to avoid hassles and get set with a local SIM is to use a cell place at GRU and use a CPF generated number? Just trying to get this straight so I can use Uber and Google Maps right away and not feel hassled wasting time and energy. Other newbies are probably curious too. Thanks in advance.Sometime ago, somebody recommended esim service.
https://www.airalo.com/brazil-esim
Looks like it is little bit cheaper then t-mobile international plan.
Degenerate24
05-06-25, 02:36
cpfgenerator.net
Will make my first trip to SP soon, and wanted to get more clarity on the local SIM card situation. Having read many of the posts, Knowledge had posted this CPF generator that will provide a number to activate a SIM card and allow the use of public WiFi in places like shopping malls, etc. I've also read that you can go to a TIM store with your passport and they'll be able to fix you up.
Is it best and easiest to get a SIM at GRU? I usually do this at most international airports in the world without a problem, but I ran into problems in Rio a few years ago. I forgot to get set at the airport, and then went to Rio Sul mall after getting settled. The three cell stores I went to told me they couldn't help me since I wasn't a native or something. Very frustrating as none of them spoke English and they turned away and ignored me. Someone back at my hotel told me to go to one of the kiosks and they could fix me up. The kiosk guy had a friend there who spoke English, and they got me set up for cheap after 15 minutes or so.
So, the easiest way to avoid hassles and get set with a local SIM is to use a cell place at GRU and use a CPF generated number? Just trying to get this straight so I can use Uber and Google Maps right away and not feel hassled wasting time and energy. Other newbies are probably curious too. Thanks in advance.For TIM, you don't need a CPF, you could just buy it and activate it over the phone with your passport.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Brazil/comments/188mc4r/comment/kbmn0by/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Wanderer1000
05-06-25, 03:18
I was looking to go with the T-Mobile International Data Pass. I haven't used it before, but I was told it's $50 for a month of Unlimited Calls & Texts to anywhere in the world, and 15 GB of high speed data.
The Brazil Airalo is $47 a month for 200 minutes talk, 200 texts, and 20 GB of Data. Not sure if the call minutes include international calls. Now that Skype is gone, I wanted a convenient service to call anywhere in the world when I'm in another country. Seems like the T-Mobile option may be better.
I'd like a local number in Brazil and a second phone, so maybe I'll do both. Thanks.
Sometime ago, somebody recommended esim service.
https://www.airalo.com/brazil-esim
Looks like it is little bit cheaper then t-mobile international plan.
Has anyone hired an escort through this website? https://callgirlsinsaopaulo.com.br/
If so, how did it go?I would stick with the most used and known sites.
Splove.
Private55.
Fatalmodels.
Never had a switch and bait with those.
Pneumoniall
05-06-25, 11:49
Thanks for the reply.
What about quality of wifi connection in the room?
If internet is not reliable in the room, I just cannot stay.The WiFi is quite fast and reliable at this hotel too.
I was looking to go with the T-Mobile International Data Pass. I haven't used it before, but I was told it's $50 for a month of Unlimited Calls & Texts to anywhere in the world, and 15 GB of high speed data.There are two t-mobile plans: $35 for 10 days, 5 GB, and $50 for 30 days, 15 GB.
I used it in SP. It works fine.
Steve 9696
05-06-25, 18:32
I believe I ask this question before but no one addressed it. I went to scandallo just one time. It was a slow night confirmed very attractive ladies. But there were a few that approached me that I speculated where maybe men / transexual. So that's my question. Does Scandallo allow transexual women in their premises.There is no way there are trans women at Scandallo. Thought never crossed my mind.
Hanzonamura
05-06-25, 23:39
Day 1 Casarao (Friday).
60 consumption. Three stories of small real estate which could otherwise be a very large townhome on the east coast (US). Upstairs closed, bars on the main floor and downstairs, smoking area, packed, mostly nowhere to sit. Time is spent standing in a crowded room. Met someone, settled up, wristband to re-enter, exit the building to the hotel next door.
Blonde, petite, short, pretty but not preferably as thin, affectionate and fun. 50 for the room, 500 for her. Small room with a bathroom and shower. Clean and comfortable. There's a mirror on the ceiling. Starts with a long blowjob, she would have gone forever, rides me, flipped her on her back, she moves me to the edge of the bed to ride me reverse, wants me to see her from a mirror. Proceeded to blow me for the rest of the hour before needing to cleanup before the knock.
Long dark brown hair, tall, skinny, beautiful, cold in conversation but enthusiastic later. 100 for the room, 600 for her. Blows me for an eternity, rides me briefly but it's late and so I don't mind taking it easy, she decides to blow me again and doesn't stop for another eternity until our time is up. The mirrored ceiling.
Dark hair, speaks English, educated in London. We only talk. We're meeting for lunch this Thursday. Just lunch.
Day 2 and 3 Tourist.
Neighborhoods. Vila Madalena is just an area filled with crowded bars. I return to Moema for dinner. I'm a repeat visitor at an elegant restaurant a few blocks from my airbnb. They stay open late and empty the last two nights. Two bartenders cater to me personally while I have dinner, pour from a bottle, keep to myself, read.
At closing, the bartender, whom I've only communicated only through an app, puts her number in my phone if I have questions about the neighborhood. She then tells me she's off in 20 if I would like company as long as I take care of her uber home. I wait outside for air. The other bartender comes out to wait with me but to also let me know she's joining. I wait another minute, tell her this is complicated, leave.
Day 4 57 Friends.
It's 7, I've decided to revisit Casarao. It's slow so I head to 57 friends. From research, it transitions into a club around this time and so a seemingly good place to pass time. Check-in, no cover, offered a lineup or relax. I choose the latter. It's pleasantly empty. Me, two other dudes, one on his phone, another chatting a girl. Smaller area in the front with a bar and large area in the rear filled with seating, pool table, outdoor smoking area. Order a glass if wine and It's a very generous pour.
Short, petite, slim, jet black hair, kind and friendly. Introduces herself with a kiss on the cheek. She smells remarkable which isn't personally important but couldn't help but notice. She leaves to sit in a corner by herself. I join her after my first glass. We only communicate through an app. We're having fun. I offer her a drink but she declines. I never make it to Casarao.
1000 for her for the night and an exit fee which was some incidental amount I don't remember. She leads us to a restaurant a few blocks away for appetizers and drinks. She calls an uber. We're back at my place by 10 and immediately leads us to the shower. She keeps me up until 3 am for continuous fun including exploring every inch of the bed. We sleep. At 6 am, she wakes me. She wants more. Insatiable. After, as the sun had come up, wants to know if I would prefer her to leave so I can rest. We sleep more and she calls herself an uber at 10 am.
Day 5.
I'm in the courtyard of my property and meet the host. Her father, whom I had also met, wants to give me a tour of the city. I have plans tomorrow. I'm also invited to an afternoon home cooked Sunday afternoon family meal. I now have plans this Sunday. Headed to 57 later not because I expect to find another unicorn. Just a place to relax and adamant to make it to Casarao.
Clinic.
Subscribe to Tangara, 57, Yankin, Morumbi Lux for WhatsApp status. Miruna, Abbobora, others insist only after the first visit which I have not done.
Data.
Claro, picked up an activated SIM from the Ibirapuera mall, 1st floor. Sim was 10 and "top-up" available from Claro or any pharmacy. 40 for 12 GB. I've been using 1 GB per day. Will need to top-up once more for another 40. My US cell plan texted an offer for $10 USD daily or 1085 real for the entire trip.
International adapter.
City Coisas in the Ibirapuera mall, 2nd floor.
Lodging.
Airbnb in Moema. It's quiet and peaceful. Windows are not double pane. Inside, I can't hear the airplanes above.
I've seen trans women in Scandallo, twice in the last 12 years. Remember discrimination is a serious crime in Brazil, so maybe they don't want to risk a super expensive lawsuit.
The one I remember and I can tell from direct contact was 2013 one year before the soccer world championship and there were qualifiying games on the LCDs. I ended a session with a slim brown hair beauty from southern Brazil in one of the rooms of Scandallo, we went back together to outdoor bar and we were talking of going up again. Yes, we were drinking together at the same beat, and there was chemistry.
Then I see this impressive, tall, super athletic trans, yes, she was truly impressive, with ultra high heels and miniskirt and I have no shame to say it because of the feminine touch she had. I'm a visual producer and I love exotic beauty. I immediately thought on a fashion portrait ... i know agents who love those faces and looks.
So I dismissed the girl from Porto Alegre, she didn't complain at all and she had the kindness to bring this sculpture to my table and left us alone. And of course, the strong voice of a man is what I heard when she sat and crossed her legs. I invited her / him a drink and spent maybe 20 minutes talking. I gave her a R100 tip and she gave me her personal card because I offered her a photoshoot. She / he was a kind person.
From the countless times I've been to scandallo I saw trans twice, the second time it was not so impressive so I didn't have this visual attraction.
There is no way there are trans women at Scandallo. Thought never crossed my mind.Agree, dude garotas that works in Scandallo need to pass the interview with managers plus fotos, checks of beauty, hottie or not. Etc. Some garotas when speaking Portuguese the pronunciation can sound more masculine than femine to US ears. Plus Tons of scandallo garotas do heavy duty muscular workouts you can follow them on instagram to see their body sculpture regime.
Shit I had to leave a hot threesome near the DJ booth to go downstairs to the lobby to vouch for a damn fine cutie to enter the place. Her uber pickup was late.
There is no upside for bait and switch of gender there.
SocratesNY
05-08-25, 22:01
I don't doubt your encounter back in 2013, but currently only "real" biological women are allowed to work in Scandallo. I reached out to 2 different managers and the head waiter at the club and they all told me the same. Only biological women are allowed to work in Scandallo.
Girls go through a pretty thorough interview process before they are allowed to work there and not all girls make the cut. I knew this really pretty spinner with an amazing body from another boate that would totally kill at Scandallo looks wise. She was also super sweet and had a great personality. She went for an interview and they rejected her as she wasn't refined or put together enough or too inexperienced. They offered to have her start at their sister club Connections first before graduating to Scandallo.
Could a girl sneak in and work there with a fake ID? Of course! I know of at least 3-4 girls who started working at Scandallo in the mid to late 2010's when they were just 16-17 years old ith fake IDs. The same logic can apply to faking their biological "sex" on a fake ID.
Brazil does have strong discrimination laws and is very LGBT+ friendly, but a club like Scandallo have enough connections and powerful clients visiting that they don't really worry about these kind of lawsuits much. Civilian girls of all types who want to visit the club as just regular clients just to "check it out" are denied entry all the time.
I did meet a few trans girls at Casarao back in late 2023 or early 2024. They were a group of 3 hanging out at the downstairs area between the end of the bar and the start of the couches. Directly in front of the entrance to the smoking room. 2 were obviously LGBT, but the 3rd was a super cute and very feminine looking spinner. I figured she was probably just a leabian. When I tried to strike up a conversation with her she held up her hand and tried to warn me by saying "Sweetchy", which is how they pronounce the word "Switch". I had no idea what she meant, so she had to elaborate that she was a transexual! Got to love the cute Portuguese slangs and how they add an extra syllable to many words!
I believe from a month stay in pattaya and 8 month in medellin. I know a trans when I see one. And I believe while I was enjoying my steak dinner at least 2 said Hello, in which I quickly dismissed after a thorough look. I won't say it was obvious because I was looking kinda hard to be convinced he wasnt a she. But I could not be convinced. No big deal. Just not my thing along with scandallo prices. But I will return just to eat and women watch.
I read this thread, there are some details. However I cannot find a write-up that has initiation information. I have a lot of experience in Tijuana and Mexico in general, Africa and Thailand. I did travel to South East Asia extensively for work matters and lived in Japan for some time.
My question is.
What is visiting Brazil like, as a sex tourist?
Can one survive with good Spanish knowledge but 0 ability in Brazilian / Portuguese /?
What are the people like, specially those you encounter in the mongering areas, in clubs, etc.
Are they nicely out going and bubbly and welcoming like Mexicans, or proud and distant like the Japanese?
Are they judgemental or inviting specially to foreigners who are there to fack their women for money?
Do they like you fun outgoing while being opinionated or be quiet and polite?
Is tipping customary and is it much appreciated like it is in Mexico?
What is a good amount of tip, to a bar tender, to a door man, to a food server, to a hotel room clean up person?
What are the things frowned upon, e. G alcohol in public and seen too close to drug dealers, / These are issues one has to watch for in Tijuana /.
How safe is the mongering areas? I read about gang related violence in Sao Paulo.
Is the mongering activity concentrated around a specific area, or strewn all around town?
Are there specific music / dance / strip clubs known to have women who cater to mongers openly like we have in Thailand and Mexico?
Do these clubs, if they exist, have attached Hotel to take the women up, as conveniently customary in Thai and Mexico's Red light zones?
Are there massage parlous like we have in Colombia which are actually preferred by many mongers who go there, specially now a days.
Is cheating a problem, like giving you a wrong change at Hotel counters and Bars like we have in Tijuana.
Are the Hotels trust worthy, meaning if you reserve it online say Expedia, would they honor that?
I am not going to ask about the women, as I believe they are the same everywhere.
In any case these are the things I wanted to know, initially, as I continue the research about Brazil as a destination.
Regards,
I read this thread, there are some details. However I cannot find a write-up that has initiation information. I have a lot of experience in Tijuana and Mexico in general, Africa and Thailand. I did travel to South East Asia extensively for work matters and lived in Japan for some time.
My question is.
What is visiting Brazil like, as a sex tourist?
Can one survive with good Spanish knowledge but 0 ability in Brazilian / Portuguese /?
What are the people like, specially those you encounter in the mongering areas, in clubs, etc.
Are they nicely out going and bubbly and welcoming like Mexicans, or proud and distant like the Japanese?
Are they judgemental or inviting specially to foreigners who are there to fack their women for money?
Do they like you fun outgoing while being opinionated or be quiet and polite?
Is tipping customary and is it much appreciated like it is in Mexico?
What is a good amount of tip, to a bar tender, to a door man, to a food server, to a hotel room clean up person?.You clearly have not RTFF well enough! These kinds of questions have been answered time and again in the Brazil threads. Suggest you read the Reports of Distinction in-depth and come back asking informed, targeted questions versus producing a laundry list of questions like this and then just sitting back and watching expecting other people to do all the work for you.
I read this thread, there are some details. However I cannot find a write-up that has initiation information. I have a lot of experience in Tijuana and Mexico in general, Africa and Thailand. I did travel to South East Asia extensively for work matters and lived in Japan for some time.
My question is.
What is visiting Brazil like, as a sex tourist?
Can one survive with good Spanish knowledge but 0 ability in Brazilian / Portuguese /?
What are the people like, specially those you encounter in the mongering areas, in clubs, etc.
Are they nicely out going and bubbly and welcoming like Mexicans, or proud and distant like the Japanese?
Are they judgemental or inviting specially to foreigners who are there to fack their women for money?
Do they like you fun outgoing while being opinionated or be quiet and polite?
Is tipping customary and is it much appreciated like it is in Mexico?
What is a good amount of tip, to a bar tender, to a door man, to a food server, to a hotel room clean up person?
What are the things frowned upon, e. G alcohol in public and seen too close to drug dealers, / These are issues one has to watch for in Tijuana /.
How safe is the mongering areas? I read about gang related violence in Sao Paulo.
Is the mongering activity concentrated around a specific area, or strewn all around town?
Are there specific music / dance / strip clubs known to have women who cater to mongers openly like we have in Thailand and Mexico?
Do these clubs, if they exist, have attached Hotel to take the women up, as conveniently customary in Thai and Mexico's Red light zones?
Are there massage parlous like we have in Colombia which are actually preferred by many mongers who go there, specially now a days.
Is cheating a problem, like giving you a wrong change at Hotel counters and Bars like we have in Tijuana.
Are the Hotels trust worthy, meaning if you reserve it online say Expedia, would they honor that?
I am not going to ask about the women, as I believe they are the same everywhere.
In any case these are the things I wanted to know, initially, as I continue the research about Brazil as a destination.
Regards,Look who comes crawling the the brazilian side LOL.
Alot of these guys will tell you to RTFF (read the fucking forum).
It is a lot of subjective questioning you've asked but just go to the links to reports of distinction and you will find the posts with alot of info and experiences from different guys from newbies to guys who live there.
I won't say it was obvious because I was looking kinda hard to be convinced he wasnt a she. But I could not be convinced.I think it is unlikely you will see two there in one night. Besides most are not passable like In Thailand.
There are some girls just not very attractive, anyway you look at it and you can still get them at 500 if you see them. So the interview means not much. Then there are friends of the working girls and they don't seem to need interview to work there one or two nights. There are girls sent by agency. There are just what I have been told by the girls I met. There seems to be some exception to the rules.
I believe from a month stay in pattaya and 8 month in medellin. I know a trans when I see one. And I believe while I was enjoying my steak dinner at least 2 said Hello, in which I quickly dismissed after a thorough look. I won't say it was obvious because I was looking kinda hard to be convinced he wasnt a she. But I could not be convinced. No big deal. Just not my thing along with scandallo prices. But I will return just to eat and women watch.I can pretty much assure you that they weren't trans. I know that there are some women in Scandello who are into the muscular bodybuilding and they might be taking testosterone so that might change their voice and their look slightly. I steer away from them as that is not my vibe. I will usually see a few that are super built and defined and when I walk by and hear their voice, it is definitely deeper than the girls I talk to.
Steve 9696
05-09-25, 19:37
I'm a week in to my Brazil trip and going to try to recount it all. But man there is so much. Think I fucked 8 girls so far but we will see when I finish the account here. I am traveling with my wingman Mark and that turned out to be a great call.
Our first day we had a free afternoon before Mark was meeting his first regular girl and. Started at 57 Friends house for some pool and perhaps daytime action. Well there was some magnificent pool played but there was only o e girl — slightly thick and we didn't partake.
We hadn't done the day scene at Scan but how bad can it be at the best girls club on the planet. The answer is not bad at all! Not nearly the scale of the nighttime scene but plenty of choice. We mostly chilled but eventually two girls chatted us up that we were interested in.
Mark took a buxom blonde and reported she was great in the room. I took a slim brunette and that turned out to be a mistake. I never both discussing condom because it's Scan but she was a total biatch in the room insisting CBJ "for both our safety". I went to leave -said I'the give her 500 and just bag it — but I guess she wanted the whole thing. She acquiesced but the entire mood was ruined. Managed to wank one out. Boo. False start.
It got much better from here. Mark had to leave for his date. But I've navigated Acan alone many times. I bought myself a bottle of Tanquery and Red Bull and tonic mixers and prepared for my own party. I socialized with several girls but settled in with fit pixie Iara on the big patio. We musta just drank and smoked cigars for over an hour. What a great girl. And soooo fit. With a tight little tummy.
Eventually we went to the room and it was very very good. BBBJ as it should be and plenty of good fucking. I could t cum and we ran over the hour but brownie points for trying.
I am drinking like a fish and quite lit when Mark returns post-date at maybe 1 am? We have moved to the dance floor area and have a great time. Just taking in the scene and talking g to various girls. As the clock strikes 4 am Mark and I both grab a girl. My girl Bianca has great tits and good room action. And I manage to blow my stack around the 5 Am mark.
So we arrived Scan at 2 pm and shut her down at 5 am! Fifteen hours of debauchery. Think that's a new record. And three girls. The next night we both bagged three girls as well. But with a real unique spin. Stay tuned!
You clearly have not RTFF well enough! These kinds of questions have been answered time and again in the Brazil threads. Suggest you read the Reports of Distinction in-depth and come back asking informed, targeted questions versus producing a laundry list of questions like this and then just sitting back and watching expecting other people to do all the work for you.Talked to this clown in the Tijuana forum.
He clearly doesn't want to read anything and just wants someone to spoon feed him every single answer to his questions.
Doesn't want to put in the work.
Already told him where to start reading and he says it's too hard and a maze.
All newbies should read and not ask 1000 questions likes it's our job to answer them.
We hadn't done the day scene at Scan but how bad can it be at the best girls club on the planet. The answer is not bad at all! Not nearly the scale of the nighttime scene but plenty of choice. We mostly chilled but eventually two girls chatted us up that we were interested in.
Mark took a buxom blonde and reported she was great in the room. I took a slim brunette and that turned out to be a mistake. I never both discussing condom because it's Scan but she was a total biatch in the room insisting CBJ "for both our safety". I went to leave -said I'the give her 500 and just bag it but I guess she wanted the whole thing. She acquiesced but the entire mood was ruined. Managed to wank one out. Boo. False start.
It got much better from here. Mark had to leave for his date. But I've navigated Acan alone many times. I bought myself a bottle of Tanquery and Red Bull and tonic mixers and prepared for my own party. I socialized with several girls but settled in with fit pixie Iara on the big patio. We musta just drank and smoked cigars for over an hour. What a great girl. And soooo fit. With a tight little tummy.
Eventually we went to the room and it was very very good. BBBJ as it should be and plenty of good fucking. I could t cum and we ran over the hour but brownie points for trying.
I am drinking like a fish and quite lit when Mark returns post-date at maybe 1 am? We have moved to the dance floor area and have a great time. Just taking in the scene and talking g to various girls. As the clock strikes 4 am Mark and I both grab a girl. My girl Bianca has great tits and good room action. And I manage to blow my stack around the 5 Am mark.
So we arrived Scan at 2 pm and shut her down at 5 am! Fifteen hours of debauchery. Think that's a new record. And three girls. The next night we both bagged three girls as well. But with a real unique spin. Stay tuned!I don't really follow the Sao Paulo thread, but I've understood that Scandallo is a must for the US newbie mongers. More or less like Love story back in the days. 500 reais for a CBJ seems strange to me, but never mind. Three girls at "Scan" sounds great. However, you didn't mention the cost. My only question why you mixed Tanqueray with Red Bull?
I don't doubt your encounter back in 2013, but currently only "real" biological women are allowed to work in Scandallo. I reached out to 2 different managers and the head waiter at the club and they all told me the same. Only biological women are allowed to work in Scandallo.
I did meet a few trans girls at Casarao back in late 2023 or early 2024. They were a group of 3 hanging out at the downstairs area between the end of the bar and the start of the couches. Directly in front of the entrance to the smoking room. 2 were obviously LGBT, but the 3rd was a super cute and very feminine looking spinner. I figured she was probably just a leabian. When I tried to strike up a conversation with her she held up her hand and tried to warn me by saying "Sweetchy", which is how they pronounce the word "Switch". I had no idea what she meant, so she had to elaborate that she was a transexual! Got to love the cute Portuguese slangs and how they add an extra syllable to many words!Damn I remembered the same. Casarao is trans friendly for sure. Yup there is / was a group of three that hang out in the downstairs back bar. I overheard them saying switchee switchee, filed it away as the augusta area is switchee friendly. I was more worried when couple of moema clinica garotas and I went to swingy club. Saw bunch of naked people doing an orgy in an omnibus. Too dark to know for sure but I am not on the investigation committee kkkkk.
Bolted after a quick tour. Not my type of spot.
Vagabundo1
05-09-25, 23:01
Vagabundo went to casarao with a prive / clinca girl in Nov. 2019. She wanted to compare herself with the more upscale talent.
Thanks for the warning. Lots of trans work at mabs in copa in rio too, one of which hit on a ISG er successfully to the extent that he almost did a program, but a black girl, fanny, a 4 x4 girl and passista I have known forever warned him off, for which he gave her a nice tip which made her happy, she like danced, her big natural tits swinging about, a nice thought. I fucked fanny back in November 2019 too.
Damn I remembered the same. Casarao is trans friendly for sure. Yup there is / was a group of three that hang out in the downstairs back bar. I overheard them saying switchee switchee, filed it away as the augusta area is switchee friendly. I was more worried when couple of moema clinica garotas and I went to swingy club. Saw bunch of naked people doing an orgy in an omnibus. Too dark to know for sure but I am not on the investigation committee kkkkk.
Bolted after a quick tour. Not my type of spot.
Sure, 2 trans in 12 years and having been there much more than 50 times. They are very rare exceptions in Scandallo. A glitch in the security, in the matrix.
Newbies shouldn't be afraid of bait and switchy hahahaha.
I don't doubt your encounter back in 2013, but currently only "real" biological women are allowed to work in Scandallo. I reached out to 2 different managers and the head waiter at the club and they all told me the same. Only biological women are allowed to work in Scandallo...
Look who comes crawling the the brazilian side LOL.
Alot of these guys will tell you to RTFF (read the fucking forum).
It is a lot of subjective questioning you've asked but just go to the links to reports of distinction and you will find the posts with alot of info and experiences from different guys from newbies to guys who live there.LOL,
Out of respect for others here in the Brazilian forum I'll keep my comment about you, polite and constructive.
You jump from thread to thread, like the obnoxious troll you are and leave a track record of feces. I scanned some past posts of yours briefly. You are indeed an obnoxious troll, reason why people don't seem to be kind to you.
No need to respond to me, I won't read it. Just take what I wrote and take to heart.
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