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While looking up some info on a clinica I came across the following map of SP listing a bunch of the clinicas:
https://mapagp.com/
I don't know how accurate the price listing is, but the locations look to be correct on the map. I hope this helps others out.Thanks for sharing!
TylerHerro
06-25-25, 17:04
I wondered how long it would take to be satiated. This lifestyle of discretionary instant intimacy with virtually any woman is its own relationship type. Is there a honeymoon period which could, god forbid, last six months or more?
Well, I've discovered, personally, the honeymoon period is about five weeks. Five weeks of actively visiting clubs, spending nights with regulars, and one daytime detour to a clinica.
Just spent another night with my Scandallo girl until 3 pm. She'd like to meet again along with another who's a better version of "Samy Sun7. " I have a week left out of two back-to-back three week trips. I could meet both and make time to find one or two others at Scandallo or Casarao. However, I'm very much ready to return to my common American life.Hey are you still in SP? Would love to meet up and share some of your insights over some drinks. I'm here for the next 3 weeks.
That describes K to a tee. Cutie pie. Love me a Morena. Rocking a green bikini with her perfect be / see cups. Cee had a magenta one but she wasn't burning up the social media as much as K. Yeah bet that's her. You may already know her if you see her social media but she's a rocking good time.Yeah K hit me up on wassap. She was bringing a hot young 19 year old beauty to casarao for a Duplo session. Dann lot of fun with her new girlfriend. She also didn't like when I found another garota for round two. I had to delete those shitty jealous messages to not ruin our karma. Brasilian women attitudes turn on a dime.
Her sister agreed to travel to São Paulo this weekend. Cannot wait to try double trouble in the pool. She has a new blue bikini to go with her green one.
I wondered how long it would take to be satiated. This lifestyle of discretionary instant intimacy with virtually any woman is its own relationship type. Is there a honeymoon period which could, god forbid, last six months or more?
Well, I've discovered, personally, the honeymoon period is about five weeks. Five weeks of actively visiting clubs, spending nights with regulars, and one daytime detour to a clinica.......Satiated you say? Then just five days after getting back home you want to return.
Perhaps this should go in a different thread, but I figured it comes up enough to put in the main SP one.
Last night I was in a familiar scenario where I didn't want to add another guest to my airbnb and needed an option. I'm staying in Moema and did not want to travel far and went to Motel Asturias (Pinheiro) on a friends suggestion. It turned out to be a great spot if you're with a first time girl who may be sketchy or if you just want to have a solid sport fucking session with a garota or two. It's 400 R for the base suite, but this is two floors, probably 1000 sq ft and includes a jacuzzi as well as sauna (plus queen bed). The Presidential suite is 650 R and includes a pool. In my case it was a hell of a lot of fun fucking the girl all over the suite (jacuzzi, bed, on stairs, shower, etc.). I even got a last rushed one in at her request as her Uber was on the way. So much pressure gentleman!!
The reservations are generally for 5 hours or all night. It's set up for you to arrive in your own car, so if you arrive by Uber it can be a bit confusing. They have a full menu of drinks, food, sex toys (ha ha), but probably best to bring your own as prices are understandably inflated. Lastly, they call you when the girl arrives and when she leaves, so you have an extra level of protection. On the down side, no ice for drinks and needed to call for drink glasses, but small issue.
Hanzonamura
06-27-25, 22:05
Satiated you say? Then just five days after getting back home you want to return.I'm wrapping two three week trips. I left dissatisfied after my first trip. Returned to São Paulo for work after a brief hiatus. Two weeks into the second trip I felt content. Unsure if you're proposing a math challenge but that's the calculus.
For Festa Junina my Brazilian girlfriend and I went to Scandallo Friday night. We wanted to find young pretty, fit garotas for a threesome night at a love motel. Scandallo is a great place for couples to find sexy Instagram garotas without worrying about Instagram scammers or fake profiles.
The food, dancing, drinks, dinner, and music is a fun night out. We had a blast. We chose to sit at the table up front near the band. We were dancing like crazy to retro classics played by the local band Rednova. My girl was interviewing different hot garotas. Then I would interview and negotiate the price. Damn, I didn't realize the huge price jump. At 10 pm or 11 pm garotas we met were firm on 1500 brl to go up to the room or more to exit. I said heck no. Instead Give me your Insta profile and WhatsApp number. We can message to hook up later (and at a much lower price).
Around 2 am found a pretty blonde tall fit Instagram model. That blonde ass Branca has a firm bunda from going to the "academia". She started deep French kissing my gal right from the jump. I joined in the kissing too!. We didn't give a crap who was staring at us doing a mini-passionate kissing threesome at our table.
We were all super attracted to each other and horny as hell.
Finally time for negotiations. I offered 800 brl for a couple's threesome session upstairs in the hotel. She needed a smoke break to think about the offer. My girlfriend went with her. When they came back she agreed on 800 brl for a session.
It's been a very long time since I was in the hotel upstairs. It's expensive compared to going out to a love motel nearby. I did a report on the many local love motels options around scandallos.
In the room, We had erotic threesome session experience with the young blonde fitness model. Smoked some Good marola 520, whiskey, drinks, music. I still prefer love motels for the price, pool, jacuzzi, room service, and privacy.
Nope I don't remember how long our time together was, definitely closer to an hour and a half or two hours. I didn't check the time. I gave her 800 brl as agreed. We already made plans to hook up again this week at a less expensive place and half the scandalous price point.
BTW there will be a 520 marola conference and fair in the fall. Already got my NFL Sao Paulo tickets and marola tickets too. Kkkk.
OkSwimmer5517
07-04-25, 17:21
Hello folks,
I'm planning a trip to visit Brazil for the first time for the famous Scandallo. Money is not an issue.
My expectations are a bit high from all the reviews on Scandallo - 200 girls, Amazing service, model like quality.
TBH, I'm not even going to bother visiting other options available in Brazil like Termas in Rio 4 x 4, Centaurus, Clinicas, Casarao etc, I'm just interested in Scandallo. The top most quality place and I'm going to assume everything else is down a notch or like something else I've already seen.
I've been to quite a lot of FKKs in Germany, done 100+ rooms at FKK Sharks alone. I haven't contributed on ISG but I have contributed a lot of info on subreddit FKK Sharks, it's the same username, feel free to DM me on reddit for proof.
I've been chasing Caucasian women around the world but nothing seems to satisfy. Sometimes I find quality but not quantity like a few diamonds in the rough young, college type, blonde hair, blue eyes in Luxury brothels in Sydney, Escort agencies in. Montreal, Lisbon, Athens, Nightclubs in Dubai but if I need a larger quantity doing room after room, I have to work with Romanians in the FKK like Sharks.
My questions are -.
1. How's the girl quality / LU in scandallo currently? With FKKs lately the quality is on the decline I'm seeing a lot of ugly typical low quality street walker type hookers. Older, lot of botox in lips, silicon boobs, trashy tattoos, fat, ugly, smokers. Is Scandallo quality level similar or more classy, younger, model looking types?
2. What percent of the girls are Caucasian? I know FKKs are 90% Romanians many of them darker typically Gypsy looking. I don't want to go to Scandallo just to find out it's another FKK with majority of the girls are not my type. And I'm stuck with chasing 1 popular girl that everyone else is crowding. I need quality and quantity.
3. Is Scandallo really worth it?
Steve 9696
07-05-25, 00:52
Hello folks,
I'm planning a trip to visit Brazil for the first time for the famous Scandallo. Money is not an issue.
My expectations are a bit high from all the reviews on Scandallo - 200 girls, Amazing service, model like quality.
TBH, I'm not even going to bother visiting other options available in Brazil like Termas in Rio 4 x 4, Centaurus, Clinicas, Casarao etc, I'm just interested in Scandallo. The top most quality place and I'm going to assume everything else is down a notch or like something else I've already seen.
I've been to quite a lot of FKKs in Germany, done 100+ rooms at FKK Sharks alone. I haven't contributed on ISG but I have contributed a lot of info on subreddit FKK Sharks, it's the same username, feel free to DM me on reddit for proof.
I've been chasing Caucasian women around the world but nothing seems to satisfy. Sometimes I find quality but not quantity like a few diamonds in the rough young, college type, blonde hair, blue eyes in Luxury brothels in Sydney, Escort agencies in. Montreal, Lisbon, Athens, Nightclubs in Dubai but if I need a larger quantity doing room after room, I have to work with Romanians in the FKK like Sharks.
My questions are -.
1. How's the girl quality / LU in scandallo currently? With FKKs lately the quality is on the decline I'm seeing a lot of ugly typical low quality street walker type hookers. Older, lot of botox in lips, silicon boobs, trashy tattoos, fat, ugly, smokers. Is Scandallo quality level similar or more classy, younger, model looking types?
2. What percent of the girls are Caucasian? I know FKKs are 90% Romanians many of them darker typically Gypsy looking. I don't want to go to Scandallo just to find out it's another FKK with majority of the girls are not my type. And I'm stuck with chasing 1 popular girl that everyone else is crowding. I need quality and quantity.
3. Is Scandallo really worth it?Yes I am biased towards Latinas and morena color girls but I try my best to be objective on this forum knowing tastes are not the same.
That said, Scandallo absolutely slays Sharks. There are more hot girls per square meter than any other place I know of. And yes I've been to Sharks recently. True it's prob 80% more brunettes and such, but def 10-20% blonds or red heads or more fair skinned types. That doesn't sound like a lot but at the number of girls there it's plenty. And don't discount the environment either. Its nothing like FKK and girls instantly wanting to bag you and take you to the room. If you find someone I like invite her to drink with you. Don't waste her time but no problem spending a half hour or more just drinking dancing and making out. And yes you should absolutely make out with your girl right there in the club. It's Brazil.
Do yourself a favor and get a bottle and a table if $$ is not an issue. King of the world. Invite a girl or two to share your bottle and mixers. Listen to the band. Make out. Dance. Then go to the room. It's really a once in a lifetime experience and absolutely slays Sharks IMO.
Axel Heyst
07-05-25, 02:10
My questions are -.
1. How's the girl quality / LU in scandallo currently? With FKKs lately the quality is on the decline I'm seeing a lot of ugly typical low quality street walker type hookers. Older, lot of botox in lips, silicon boobs, trashy tattoos, fat, ugly, smokers. Is Scandallo quality level similar or more classy, younger, model looking types?
2. What percent of the girls are Caucasian? I know FKKs are 90% Romanians many of them darker typically Gypsy looking. I don't want to go to Scandallo just to find out it's another FKK with majority of the girls are not my type. And I'm stuck with chasing 1 popular girl that everyone else is crowding. I need quality and quantity.
3. Is Scandallo really worth it?I last visited Scandallo on April 29, when I met up with a couple of esteemed punters. I had been in SP for 3 weeks. My friends had just arrived in town. It was a Tuesday night. The night started out a little slow, but by 10 pm I had found a very attractive, friendly, tall & slender blond who was a former stewardess for Azul Airline. She passed the audition with flying colors, and we clicked in the room where she gave me BBFS after I went down on her.
Around midnight, I was back in the entertainment bar area where I hooked up with one of my friends again. We walked around the place and we could not help but notice how packed Scan had become. It was almost wall to wall girls with a large number of lookers. I started to think about taking another girl upstairs, but you know how it is in SP sometimes, KKK, earlier in the afternoon I had my favorite girl come by my hotel for boom boom, lunch, and a few refers by the pool. So, Valeria and the stewardess made it a 10* day.
So it was around 1 am when my friend and I decided to call it a night. As we descended to the front desk to pay our respective tabs, we both noticed that more hotties were still arriving! It was fucking amazing. !am! So yeah, Scandallo has the quality and IMHO is worth every BR.
What percent of the girls are Caucasian? I know FKKs are 90% Romanians many of them darker typically Gypsy looking. I don't want to go to Scandallo just to find out it's another FKK with majority of the girls are not my type. And I'm stuck with chasing 1 popular girl that everyone else is crowding. I need quality and quantity. Is Scandallo really worth it?I'm into the "brancas" or white girls just like you. I have been going to Brazil off and on for over a couple of decades now, and was there last earlier this year for a 30-day stretch. In that time, I mongered in Sao Paulo, Rio, Curitiba, and Florianopilis. And I can honestly say that it was the poorest showing of hot white girls on the stroll that I have ever experienced in Brazil. So much so that I said so in my reports, and asked out loud on the open board what the deal was. Surely, the fact that I was there in Sampa during carnivale had something to do with it. I'm talking lots of poorly attended, low energy clubs with far too many uglies and fatties. I'll never got to Brazil to monger during carnivale ever again! But even after landing in Rio shortly after carnivale it was a lot of the same thing (carnivale hangover maybe).
Sure, I found some jewels here and there, including in Curitiba and Florianopolis. In fact, I think the one club I attended that had the single highest concentration of brancas was Class Lounge in Curitiba. But my last trip was nothing like those several early trips I took to Rio (wasn't going to Sao Paulo in the beginning) where I was finding hot brancas in the termas left and right! More than enough to be totally satisfied (peruse some of my old pics in the "Anal Connoiseurs" thread to see picture proof). I think that the aftermath of COVID has something to do with it as well. Tutes discovered that like everybody else they could do more work from home versus sitting around in a dark, noisy club waiting for tricks with deep pockets to show up. Another senior monger here who lives in Rio and knows what he's talking about surmised that the hot ones are being snatched up by wealthy Brazilians before they can even hit the public circuit.
Now all this said, Scandallo and Brazil are absolutely worth it! There's no way I'm going to discard my favorite place in the world to monger after one subpar trip after all of these years (Germany is a strong number 2). You're not going during or slightly after carnivale, so that's going to work in your favor. And I can honestly say that Scandallo was one of true exceptions when it came to bringing the energy. It was full and well attended with girls of all types, even on a Monday (but the branca count was down). The other thing I will tell you is don't skip Casarao! It was also packed late everytime I went with more hot white girls than Scandallo last trip and much, much better pricing! No, it's not as nice as Scandallo. After all, Scandallo is the baddest puta palace on the planet! But it meets minimum standards, throws off a more casual vibe, is more affordable, and had lots of brancas that interested me last time (again more than Scandallo). I hooked up with and fucked a few. My number 1 type is blonde hair, pale skin with some pink in it, pretty face, any color eyes but blue is nice, narrow hips with a flat tummy, and a round bubble butt. Casarao had this. You send those "pasty white girls" to me Steve you hear, especially if they do anal! LOLOLOL!
So look man. If it's somebody's first time going to Brazil, I always advise that they do both Sampa and Rio if they can. Both are great destinations for mongering and more. But if you can only do one, and if mongering is your aim, then I would say choose Sampa. This is a huge change in my general advice giving, but I finally have to agree with others that Rio has slipped enough that Sampa has now surpassed the Marvelous City for mongering. This is based on my personal preferences, and many, many here will agree. But of course not all. And if you go to Sampa? Yes you must go to Scandallo! But don't skip out on Casarao either as a viable second option. And if you can expand it some, you should hit other boates as well. For example, I had sessions (including some with anal) with attractive brancas at other clubs like Bomboa and Gaugin. Good luck, and write us a report!
Thanks for all your info, looks like your inbox is full
Yes I am biased towards Latinas and morena color girls but I try my best to be objective on this forum knowing tastes are not the same.
That said, Scandallo absolutely slays Sharks. There are more hot girls per square meter than any other place I know of. And yes I've been to Sharks recently. True it's prob 80% more brunettes and such, but def 10-20% blonds or red heads or more fair skinned types. That doesn't sound like a lot but at the number of girls there it's plenty. And don't discount the environment either. Its nothing like FKK and girls instantly wanting to bag you and take you to the room. If you find someone I like invite her to drink with you. Don't waste her time but no problem spending a half hour or more just drinking dancing and making out. And yes you should absolutely make out with your girl right there in the club. It's Brazil.
Do yourself a favor and get a bottle and a table if $$ is not an issue. King of the world. Invite a girl or two to share your bottle and mixers. Listen to the band. Make out. Dance. Then go to the room. It's really a once in a lifetime experience and absolutely slays Sharks IMO..
The Cane;3012693]I'm into the "brancas" or white girls just like you.
Great read, and I agree. Its been about 4 years since my last trip to Brazil, as I now live in Medellin, but I am hoping to get back to Brazil this year for a return trip.
Brazil offers a great diversity of looks and types of girls to satisfy the preferences of everyone, and I still dream of a brazilian redhead lookalike to pornstar RedFox, that I found in Scandello that fuels my desire to return to Sao Paolo. Had a redhead here in medellin about 5 years ago too, who disappeared, but the hunt for fresh new girls makes the hobby exciting.
The Cane;3012693]Great read, and I agree. Its been about 4 years since my last trip to Brazil, as I now live in Medellin, but I am hoping to get back to Brazil this year for a return trip. Brazil offers a great diversity of looks and types of girls to satisfy the preferences of everyone, and I still dream of a brazilian redhead lookalike to pornstar RedFox, that I found in Scandello that fuels my desire to return to Sao Paolo. Had a redhead here in medellin about 5 years ago too, who disappeared, but the hunt for fresh new girls makes the hobby exciting.I've had my share of attractive Brazilian "ruivas" or redheads too! Posted some photos over the years in the picture thread as evidence.
OkSwimmer5517
07-05-25, 19:49
Now all this said, Scandallo and Brazil are absolutely worth it!
But don't skip out on Casarao either as a viable second option.
other clubs like Bomboa and Gaugin.
Good luck, and write us a report!Thanks for the info appreciate your detailed account of Brazil. I was on a civilian trip to Barcelona last year and didn't fuck anything because I looked at the websites of their luxury brothels LaSuite and Felina and decided these brown silicon bimbo, old latina women are not for me. But then I visited Portugal and actually liked what I fucked, some really good looking, young, branca, slim, college type garotas (Gabriela Fontes from escortprivada). So then I thought maybe Brazil is for me.
According to my imagination, I'm assuming Termas in Rio look like a run down ghetto FKK like Acapulco Gold. And I'm imagining Casarao to be like those latina strip clubs full of Cuban girls in USA (Chicas Locas Houston).
I'm sorry if I'm being extra cautious because after a few terrible experiences in Thailand, I'm very particular about cleanliness and hygiene especially in third world countries like Brazil. I'd rather miss an amazing experience with a girl instead of being mentally scarred from seeing something awful that I can't unsee. After many mistakes, I've raised the standard to only go into clean incall apartments in Canada or clean FKKs in Germany or cleaner luxury brothels in Australia, New Zealand and other developed countries.
How's the cleanliness and the condition of the club at Casarao? Man if it's anything like those sleazy cuban strip clubs in USA, smell of sweat, mixed with a lot of deodorant and smell of girls vape on top of it creating a strong aroma, full of smoke and smells like sewer, I'd rather just stay at home. I know I'll bring the girl to my hotel from Casarao so I control the sex environment but she needs to be clean, showered, smell nice, otherwise sex would be physically possible.
Casarao is cheaper so what kind of customers at which price point are they targeting? Money isn't an issue and I'm not a budget monger, so I'd like to stay away from places that are meant for those audiences no offense. And I know money doesn't buy quality sex in the mongering world. But I also believe you get what you pay for.
I'll be sure to post a report for my Scandallo trip but I don't think this forum needs it as desperately as the FKK forums LOL because 90% Brazilian Garotas give good service I assume. Unlike FKKSharks reddit, here there isn't a lot of bitching about this girl is bad, that girl gave bad service, this girl cheated on time, this girl promised me multiple shots but left after 1, this girl gave CBJ even after promising BBBJ, that girl didn't kiss me, the room was a disaster LOL.
former stewardess for Azul Airline. She passed the audition with flying colors.
So yeah, Scandallo has the quality and IMHO is worth every BR.Thanks for your opinion. This impresses me and gives an idea about quality at Scandallo, I read some reports around how professors, airhostesses and other every day normal job working girls do part time at Scandallo, someone also mentioned that the club has higher standards of recruitment that was interesting. I guess the money they earn in Scandallo goes quite further that motivates them to continue this job, unlike Germany where only impoverished immigrant Romanians are travelling to work due to the differences in cost of living index and any girl who pays entry fee is allowed to work.
Its nothing like FKK and girls instantly wanting to bag you and take you to the room.
And yes you should absolutely make out with your girl right there in the club. It's Brazil.
It's really a once in a lifetime experience and absolutely slays Sharks IMO.Thanks for your opinion. I am very interested in this prolonged couch experience, unlike FKKs which are like Hi, Hello, we go in the room which sort of creates an environment where girls are just smoking waiting for a guy to pick them up to a room, like a streetwalker.
Ofc I know not to waste their time, not my first rodeo.
Hello folks, I'm planning a trip to visit Brazil for the first time for the famous Scandallo. Money is not an issue. My expectations are a bit high from all the reviews on Scandallo - 200 girls, Amazing service, model like quality. TBH, I'm not even going to bother visiting other options available in Brazil like Termas in Rio 4 x 4, Centaurus, Clinicas, Casarao etc, I'm just interested in Scandallo. The top most quality place and I'm going to assume everything else is down a notch or like something else I've already seen.If you go to Brazil expecting that all your needs are going to be met at Scandallo, then I'm afraid you're likely going to be greatly disappointed. In my view, Scandallo is the best of the best for sure, but it isn't the only good place with all the best talent. Line up quality rises and falls all around the city. The place that was hot last time is not this time. And vice versa. Even Scandallo quality and quantity fluctuates over time. So, you have to get around town and go to other places to make sure you "get your fill". As good as Scandallo can be for us "branca hunters", if you don't cast a wide net then you're going to miss out. You might find your best fuck at Scandallo. But then again, you might find that branca somewhere else too. Don't put all your eggs in one basket lest ye be disappointed! Even if that basket is named "Scandallo". Take it from a seasoned branca hunter who knows. If you're going to travel all that way you may as well see what else is out there. You at least got to go to Casarao. As always keeping it real!
Steve 9696
07-05-25, 21:53
Thanks for all your info, looks like your inbox is full
.Ok fixed. Feel free to send again.
OkSwimmer5517
07-06-25, 08:53
True it's prob 80% more brunettes and such, but def 10-20% blonds or red heads or more fair skinned types.
And don't discount the environment either.
Don't waste her time
And yes you should absolutely make out with your girl right there in the club. It's Brazil.
It's really a once in a lifetime experience and absolutely slays Sharks IMO.Thanks for your honest opinion, this is helpful. I'm really excited about the environment with extended couch experience, very different from the transactional environment of FKKs where it's like Hi, Hello, we go in the room, later, bye.
Ofc I know not to waste their time, not my first rodeo. Once in a lifetime experience, so definitely excited.
very attractive, friendly, tall & slender blond who was a former stewardess for Azul Airline.
she gave me BBFS after I went down on her.
how packed Scan had become. It was almost wall to wall girls with a large number of lookers.
So yeah, Scandallo has the quality and IMHO is worth every BR.Thanks for your opinion. This is a unique experience where normal professional girls like Professors, Stewardesses etc are working at Scandallo, instead of those typical high mileage hookers in other places. I read that Scandallo has some standards of beauty allowing only cream of the crop to work. In FKK Sharks, any girl who pays the entry fee is allowed to work in the club, and that's the same in many other places because they have trouble recruiting talent who would do a job society frowns upon. FKK globe does enforce a standard of service but not standard of beauty. Scandallo will have high quality of girls I assume. I think because that amount of money in high end places like Scandallo goes a long way for Brazilians, which sort of motivates them. Unlike Germany where local German girls don't work this job but impoverished immigrant Romanians do because it's a lot of money in their country due to cost of living differences.
I'm into the "brancas" or white girls just like you.
Sure, I found some jewels here and there, including in Curitiba and Florianopolis.
Now all this said, Scandallo and Brazil are absolutely worth it!
And I can honestly say that Scandallo was one of true exceptions when it came to bringing the energy. It was full and well attended with girls of all types,
The other thing I will tell you is don't skip Casarao! It was also packed late everytime I went with more hot white girls than Scandallo last trip and much, much better pricing! No, it's not as nice as Scandallo. After all, Scandallo is the baddest puta palace on the planet! But it meets minimum standards, throws off a more casual vibe, is more affordable, and had lots of brancas
So look man. If it's somebody's first time going to Brazil, I always advise that they do both Sampa and Rio if they can.
But if you can only do one, and if mongering is your aim, then I would say choose Sampa.
Yes you must go to Scandallo! But don't skip out on Casarao either as a viable second option. And if you can expand it some, you should hit other boates as wel
clubs like Bomboa and Gaugin.
Good luck, and write us a report!Thanks for your detailed account on Brazil. I was on a Civilian trip to Barcelona and didn't fuck anything because when I looked at the websites for their "luxury" brothels. LaSuite and Felina, the girls were ugly, old, brown, silicon tits, bimbo looking latinas and I thought Latin America isn't for me but then I visited Portugal and I liked what I fucked. Cute, young, white, college going type garotas, natural brancas (Gabriela Fontes from escortprivada), and then thought maybe Brazil is for me.
I'm sorry if I'm being extra cautious, I've had some terrible experiences in Thailand with the quality of the place and hence I'm extra cautious with third world countries like Brazil. I've raised my standards to only visiting developed countries like German FKKs, clean incall apartments in Canada or Portugal, clean luxury brothels in Australia and New Zealand.
My FKK friends told me go to Athens, Greece on Filis street they have 10 minutes suck and fuck for 20 EUR, I saw a google street view and it was run down, the girls had a sink for a shower, and they didn't clean in between sessions, and I'm like no that's not for me and instead I booked a well reviewed girl (thanks to ISG) from an escort agency who sent a nice clean girl, wearing a cocktail dress (like she's ready to go to a michelin star restaurant) to my hotel room, and I had a great time.
Different mongers have different tastes so I just wanted to give my background.
About Casarao -.
1. How's the club quality / girl quality at Casarao? My imagination is Casarao is like those sleazy Latina strip clubs in USA full of Cuban girls (Chicas Locas Houston) which smell like sweat mixed with a lot of deodorant, with girls vaping and smoke fills the room, smell like Sewer. I know I'd bring girl from Casarao to my hotel whose environment I control but still I need the girl to be clean, showered, smell nice, dress nice otherwise sex is physically impossible.
2. What kind of customers is Casarao targeting and what quality of girls with a cheaper price point? I know money doesn't buy quality sex in the mongering world but I also believe you get what you pay for. But if the club is meant for local Brazilians with a tight budget, I'd rather just skip it. Money is less important for me but more important is that the girl respects her body and mine, touches my body delicately and carefully instead of being rough. Countless number of times in FKKs where I've walked out of the room and paid full price for just 5 minutes when the girl starts pulling on my dick with her lips so hard to make it erect, stretching it out like a rubber band, I stop it instantly because I value my body more that 100 EURs.
I'll be sure to post a report on Scandallo, my FKK friends are also begging for that review, but reading this forum, I feel like you guys need it a lot less that the FKK forums because unlike FKKs I don't see a lot of bitching here like this girl is bad, that girl gives bad service, this girl didn't kiss me, that girl promised BBBJ and gave CBJ, this girl cheated me on time. And mongers building their good service girls list and bad girls avoid list from those reports. I assume 90% of Brazilian Garotas are passionate and enjoy sex and give good service.
3. Is Scandallo really worth it?It probably is in your case because budget is not an issue.
Having said that, I am going to temper your expectation.
My expectations are a bit high from all the reviews on Scandallo - 200 girls, Amazing service, model like quality.I have gone to Scandallo Tuesday to Friday every night in the same week with the purpose of finding out what is the best night. I counted the number of girls every night, multiple times. I don't remember the number is even close to 200 when I was there. It's YMMV
You may find some model like quality but it is very limited. It has the hottest girls on average but they don't have the hottest looking girls available night in and night out.
To judge for yourself. Go to browse the club model web site, and just assume the photoshopped photos are not photoshopped. I think the Scandallo girls are not better than what you will see on the site. That should give you an idea.
The reason I am posting this is because I was underwhelmed in my first visit based on the info from ISG. It is safe to say I am not the only one. It is the posts here tend to be one-sided when it comes to Scandallo. I am not trying to refute others, but you need to take what all of us said into consideration before you can experience it in person.
Hello folks,
I'm planning a trip to visit Brazil for the first time for the famous Scandallo. Money is not an issue.
My expectations are a bit high from all the reviews on Scandallo - 200 girls, Amazing service, model like quality.
1. How's the girl quality / LU in scandallo currently? With FKKs lately the quality is on the decline I'm seeing a lot of ugly typical low quality street walker type hookers. Older, lot of botox in lips, silicon boobs, trashy tattoos, fat, ugly, smokers. Is Scandallo quality level similar or more classy, younger, model looking types?
2. What percent of the girls are Caucasian? I know FKKs are 90% Romanians many of them darker typically Gypsy looking. I don't want to go to Scandallo just to find out it's another FKK with majority of the girls are not my type. And I'm stuck with chasing 1 popular girl that everyone else is crowding. I need quality and quantity.
3. Is Scandallo really worth it?I'll add my 2-3 cents.
1. I think it's still the best that you'll find in the Americas, with the best nights being Tuesday to Thursday. Look on the site to see if there's a live band as those tend to be the busiest nights. Those nights might have 200+ girls and 100+ guys at 12am. Alternatively I've been there on Fridays or Saturdays when there were only 60-75 girls and 50 guys. Also read the reports from SocratesNYC. I do see more naturally beautiful girls there, although many have enhanced breasts (fine by me, I just don't like extensive face work).
2. It depends a bit on how you define 'Caucasian,' but probably 50-75% and 10-15% blondes overall. Sao Paulo has many fewer mulattas than Sao Paulo or further north. It's mostly Italian and Portuguese looking with a bit of mixed indigenous blood. Very, very few natural blondes. You need to go south for that. That noted, I was at Abbobora Clinica on Saturday around 6 pm and 4 of the 10 girls in the line up were tall blondes. Must have come up from Rio Grande do Sur.
3. Yes, definitely worth it at lease a couple times and based on the way you describe yourself. If money is not an issue then it's the most convenient place to go and there are usually plenty of girls to go around as the local Brazilian men do a lot of 'shopping,' and little 'buying.' I only suggest that you take care if you do LT / overnight, especially if first time with the girl. The hotter girls will often want 2500, and then you have 400 exit plus if she got drinks on her card earlier. It can easily be 3000 r. Then then you don't know if there will be issues at the hotel or if she'll cut out early. Better to do inhouse upstairs I think. But that's just personal preference.
-Chicago.
Thanks for your detailed account on Brazil. I thought Latin America isn't for me but then I visited Portugal and I liked what I fucked. Cute, young, white, college going type garotas, natural brancas (Gabriela Fontes from escortprivada), and then thought maybe Brazil is for me. I'm sorry if I'm being extra cautious, I've had some terrible experiences in Thailand with the quality of the place and hence I'm extra cautious with third world countries like Brazil. I've raised my standards to only visiting developed countries like German FKKs, clean incall apartments in Canada or Portugal, clean luxury brothels in Australia and New Zealand. About Casarao. how's the club quality / girl quality at Casarao? What kind of customers is Casarao targeting and what quality of girls with a cheaper price point? I know money doesn't buy quality sex in the mongering world but I also believe you get what you pay for. But if the club is meant for local Brazilians with a tight budget, I'd rather just skip it.No problem, your questions seemed informed, but I think you're drawing some incorrect conclusions. By the way, what you wrote about Portugal is encouraging to me as I have decided to visit both that country and Brazil next year. It will be an excellent chance for me to put my new Portuguese language skills to use as well as monger. I'm coming along well working with my private tutor. I don't know how much I will actually monger in Portugal though since the action there seems to primarily spin around escorts versus a club scene, and I strongly prefer the latter. Can you recommend any top-notch escort agencies in Portugal (if so please post in the Portugal threads)? And then in 2027, I'm looking at Australia and New Zealand. I have asked some questions in the threads for those two destinations, and I would appreciate it if you can check those out and return the favor.
But getting back to Brazil, let me say this. First, I'm also not a budget monger. I fly in premium cabins, stay in 3 to 4 star hotels, and have an extremely large amount of cash on hand for every trip. I say this so that you know you're hearing it from a guy like the one you say you are. And second, I don't like to have sex in dirty, stinky, rundown environs either. If Casarao was that kind of place, then I would neither go there nor recommend it to anybody else. I said that it met my "minimum" standards, meaning that it could be better, but it's far from being a no-go zone. I would say that the target clientele is probably towards middle to lower middle class, whereas Scandallo is def upper middle to upper class. The place in Brazil I have been that was def lower class for people in a tight pinch for pussy was Vila Mimosa in Rio. Dirty, stinky smell of the sewer with lots of fat ass uglies (and some drugged out skinnies too). I went to VM just to say I had finally done it. Never again! Now, Casarao is nothing like that. Not even close!
So again, I'll bluntly tell you. If you get down there and only go to Scandallo, then you're going to be making a huge, huge mistake for all the reasons already mentioned. Go to Casarao. Do a session and check out the state of a room to get an idea. Or, if you just don't want to do that, then at least go and pick a girl and take her back to your hotel. Live a little bro! My contacts list is full of brancas I have met at clubs all over Brazil. Far more than I ever pulled from Scandallo when you add it all up. And they're all waiting to be my "branquita" upon my return to Brazil. Don't blow it by sticking only to Scandallo! I'm telling you. You've been warned bro. Don't do it!
OkSwimmer5517
07-06-25, 20:56
Can you recommend any top-notch escort agencies in Portugal (if so please post in the Portugal threads)? And then in 2027, I'm looking at Australia and New Zealand. I have asked some questions in the threads for those two destinations, and I would appreciate it if you can check those out and return the favor.
If you get down there and only go to Scandallo, then you're going to be making a huge, huge mistake for all the reasons already mentioned. Go to Casarao. Thanks for the info. I created a couple of reports in Lisbon, Portugal thread and New Zealand thread so as to not derail the conversation from Brazil here.
I'll def checkout Casarao, thanks for describing the quality of the club and LU.
Sorry, my brothers, ya got to be quick and early next time. !
Saw you guys get out of the taxi across from the clinic. I entered first. Already scheduled two Morena gaoritas in advance. Wassap. The two hottest, sexiest morena garotas in the Sunday afternoon clinca.
I was drinking whiskey in front of the receptionist. Known her and the staff for a few years.
For some reason, the two morena garotas I scheduled were included in the presentation lineup even though I was standing there waiting for them both. 🤷127997;8205;9794;65039;Of course why'all selected them too from the lineup. Only to hear from reception they ain't available for two hours. Your faces were crestfallen like, wtf why present garotas not available to the session now.
Brazilian Clinica logic🤷127997;8205;9794;65039; .
Anyhow I had fun with both for the next hour and a half, hope your brothers found other Garotas and didn't wait around for an hour or two.
In clinicas whichever garota fotos you like in the lineup other bros like them too, move quick and early on Sundays.
So again, I'll bluntly tell you. If you get down there and only go to Scandallo, then you're going to be making a huge, huge mistake for all the reasons already mentioned. Go to Casarao. Do a session and check out the state of a room to get an idea. Or, if you just don't want to do that, then at least go and pick a girl and take her back to your hotel. Live a little bro! My contacts list is full of brancas I have met at clubs all over Brazil. Far more than I ever pulled from Scandallo when you add it all up. And they're all waiting to be my "branquita" upon my return to Brazil. Don't blow it by sticking only to Scandallo! I'm telling you. You've been warned bro. Don't do it!I am going to SP for couple of weeks in the beginning of Aug and wondering, is there some place with the middle in price and quality between Scandallo and Casarao?
I heard something about Bomboa, but it was just briefly mentioned.
Also, I do not find any info on striptease clubs in SP. With lap dances, etc. I saw, so called "striptease" in Casarao once, but it was not a real striptease, just some strange show.
I read that Scandallo has some standards of beauty allowing only cream of the crop to work. I think it is more like dress code, more clean up. There are all types, some are below average in raw appearance. The qualification required to become certain profession are much lower In South America so many titles don't mean anything. I doubt you would find professor who teach in University there but you can find college students there.
You have to ask the girl about the service at Casarao, otherwise you are likely to end up with everything covered. Search for Blakman's posts about Casarao. You have to value reports based on how your personality or interest align with the ones who wrote the reports. Some like these clubs and some don't.
Steve 9696
07-07-25, 02:57
Thanks for the info. I created a couple of reports in Lisbon, Portugal thread and New Zealand thread so as to not derail the conversation from Brazil here.
I'll def checkout Casarao, thanks for describing the quality of the club and LU.Yes factual more consistent quality garotas at Scandallo. That and the luxe atmosphere are why guys go. That said, as others pointed out Casarao is no dive. Yes, there is a much greater mix of fatter or less desirable chicks but you can definitely find a gem there. It's a nice clean club like any nice bar one might go to. I have never failed to pull there. I even once pulled a TEN — only second ever lifetime. So it's def worth mining for gems!
It doesn't start till 12 earliest so my approach is go to scandallo from 7-12. Fuck one hottie there. Absorb the vibe and show. Bop to Casarao at 12 or 1 and find that gem. Pack it in at four or so. Rinse repeat.
Thanks for the info. I'll def checkout Casarao, thanks for describing the quality of the club and LU.I don't know how much time you will have, but since it will be your first visit, I recommend that you try as many clubs as you possibly can. Not just Scandallo and Casarao. You will get the best feel for the "night league" that way, and you will have a chance to discover the most brancas working in the top clubs around Sao Paulo. This is how I do. The Cane. The Branca Hunter. I've been all over Brazil looking for and fucking attractive brancas. Rio, Sampa, Porto, Curitiba, and Floripa. And I'm not finished yet! Yes sir!
This is a bit of a long read and I hope you enjoy it. Again, there is no right or wrong way to monger. We each have our likes and dislikes. We read and we don't judge😜.
A few ISG friends and I had planned this trip in January so we could spend some time together in Rio and SP for approx 12-15 days. Flights and hotels were booked so we would be at the same hotel and take the same flight from Rio to SP. Our stay was at the Grand Hyatt and we had booked four rooms. This trip was going to be great and great it was. We covered all the normal stuff that everyone on this forum usually covers and I tried some new things for me which I will summarize.
I have been trying to set small challenges for myself since just getting one girl or two just doesn't seem to be so exciting. This trip I decided that I would use my regular girl who works at Scandello to help me complete what I call the "Skittles" harem challenge. Like a pack of skittles, I would have a blonde, a redhead, and / or a brunette / black hair in my harem that would allow BBFSCIP with all of them and of course allow going back and forth between them. I didn't let her know about it and figured I would try to find random girls at Scandello to see if I could pull this off just something to keep the nights interesting.
We stayed in the Grand Hyatt and the picture below of the "skittles" is from the same room as my last write up from January. The presidential suite was to be used as the main party room and we had stocked it up with alcohol, mixers and the such.
Our first night was on a Tuesday and after dinner at the two Michelin star restaurant Tuju, we made our way to Scandello. We had called our waiter we knew earlier and reserved a booth for us. Met my girl from the last time and told her about my challenge. She looked at me with a wicked smile and was like FUCK YES and the hunt was on.
She bought some of her friends over that she knew in the club and things didn't click with me. Plus, I am vary of girls bringing their friends over because they are comfortable with each other and then they get lazy. I continued walking around to check out what was available. It was pretty packed as the night went on and we all kept drinking and smoking weed vapes in the club.
On another round thru the club, I saw a girl with bright pink hair and she was a cutie. She had a simple look but she looked like she would be fun. So I pointed her out to my girl and she went to go talk to her. Bought her back to the sofa and we talked for a bit. She was down for everything and she liked to have a good time. When I explained to her my challenge, she laughed and told me she had roommates. She went to get them and we all sat around and talked. All her roommates are bi and were all good to go. I told her the first night would be just the three of us and the upcoming nights I would take her roommates also. With everything settled, the partying continued and my friends were getting their girls closed up and we went back to the hotel to keep the party going.
Back in the room, the alcohol flowed and we all drank and smoked weed. Soon enough, the guys were taking their girls to their rooms and it was time to get the fun going for my threesome. After showering together, the three of us got into bed and the girls started exploring each other with me just hopping in and out. Kissing, sucking on nipples and eating them out. Ultimately, the new girl wanted my dick and hopped on while the other girl made out with me and gave me her pussy. After a bit, we switched and the new girl sat on my face while the other rode me. I wanted to finish in then new girl, so we switched and I ended up finishing in the new girl. Cleaned up and we got ready to sleep. Since I slept next to main girl, she woke me up in the morning with a BJ and the new girl also hopped over and got in on the action till I finished in my regular girl. I knew I had made the right choice with this new girl.
The next day was back in Scandello and I got to know her friends a bit better. The brunette was quiet but she kept looking at me with "fuck me" eyes and I was sure she would be a freak in bed and she sure was. Another evening of drinking and partying and back to the party room leads to a late night session of having four girls in the same bed and pussy juice everywhere. The best part was the "fuck me" girl who wanted me to fuck her rough and cum in her which I did happily. She is definitely going to be a repeat on my next trip to So Paulo. My skittles challenge was complete. See pic attached below.
We did Scandello three nights in the first week and three nights in the second week. It was packed almost all the nights and the selection was superb.
Note — we did have an issue with a girl from Scandello one night chose by a friend. She was demanding and entitled in the club but my friend was enamored so he accepted it. In the room, she was a total shitshow and the next day we told one of the waiters who we know very well. He told us to send her name that she uses, a message explaining the problems and a picture of her or IG link. Since we had the IG link, he was able to send the message to the manager and within a few hours she was blocked. According to other girls who know of her, she picks gringos because she can speak English and probably does this to them since they won't complain to management. To all mongers, if you have an issue with a girl in your hotel room, make sure you get a picture of her so you can complain to management. We didn't ask for any compensation but I think they will refund your money if you use the rooms in house.
We also did Ganguin on a Monday night and I hooked up with a super hot model quality girl but her sex was terrible. Just not enough experience and it was cheaper than Scandello for an overnight even though she didn't know what to do. 80 are entry and 1300 for the girl overnight with Uber.
I went to Bomboa once during lunchtime for their lunch special since it was close to the hotel. The girls were all older women on the fuller side. The club was small and I doubt I would return again. I don't remember the cost to get in and what I paid at the end. I did talk to one girl who was tall and skinny and she was asking Scandello price for the hour 1500 to which I said no thanks.
I did try a clinica run this time and found someone at Aborra (spelled wrong?) but the whole thing was too robotic. I don't like clinicas and the robotic part of it is the reason. We walked to all of them and the girl choice was slim at all the other ones except at the one I sessioned at. Scandello quality no. Can you find someone who is pretty cute? Sure. But the automatic feeling is what keeps me away.
I also met Chicago85 and Lalabo this trip and we all hung out at Scandello together one night. This trip was a great fucking time.
After the trip, I went for a weekend to BA and it was a total shitshow. Mongering was terrible and we should be super glad that we have So Paulo for these experiences.
Counting down the days till my next trip in September.
MexiMonger
07-08-25, 01:14
Thank you bros for all the information on this thread. Special thanks to Tochka and Knowledge for tips on Sunday options.
I arrived on a Sunday afternoon and went to check out Yankin. There I had a great time with 21-year old Bruna. A sumptuous start for my week here! I contemplated going to Casarao in the night but had work meetings in the morning next day. I am not really a club / bar kind of a guy and based on my first SP clinica experience I wanted to try more.
Over the course of the week I found opportunities to sneak out (travelling here with co-workers) to visit Red Massagem and Tangara and had delightful experiences with various body types and colors. Nevertheless Yankin was my favorite. Less fuss, less crowded.
I missed out on going to Casarao and Scandallo. Perhaps someday I will be back for it. I do appreciate how girls are dressed at these clinicas for the presentation (revealing, sometimes next to nothing). I found in the clubs in Dubai all the makeup and fancy dresses can hide some underwhelming goods underneath.
While this was not the biggest motivator, it was a pleasant surprise that after I totaled what I paid for the 5 visits to clinicas with these beautiful girls, it was about the same as one AMP visit in the USA!
Stay thirty bros!Can you help me? Will be in sao paulo in September mostly at the wold trade center area, but would love to go to many clinicas as I could.
Would you please tell me the prices? The best? Any of these places nearby? I am a bit resistant of going far since I'm travelling alone and crime scares me a bit.
Thank you.
Can you help me? Will be in sao paulo in September mostly at the wold trade center area, but would love to go to many clinicas as I could.
Would you please tell me the prices? The best? Any of these places nearby? I am a bit resistant of going far since I'm travelling alone and crime scares me a bit.
Thank you.Please read the forum (RTFF). Either search for SocratesNYC's posts or go back 10-15 pages and read from there to here. The 'best' depends on a number of things including your willingness to pay, what type of girls you like, etc. Also, many of these are on Google Maps, just look up adult entertainment or erotic massage.
I normally split my trips between SP (3-4 days) and Rio (7-8), but figured that I'd give SP my full attention this time around. I'm perhaps a little unique in that I don't have a set mongering style and enjoy a bit of everything (I. E. Clubs, clinicas, mobile apps, Seeking). I speak conversational Portuguese and that helped a lot with the garotas.
I arrived on a Tuesday, stayed at the WTC Sheraton, and went to Gauguin (literally half a block) that night. It's like a small version of Scandallo, and of note I saw a few girls there that I saw at Scandallo later. I did the 290 r entry, of which I think 150 r was consumption. ST in house was 800-1000 for most girls, plus room which is 200 if memory serves. I ended up negotiating 1200 LT until 'mid morning' with a girl at 12 am. And this is where some trouble starts. We get back, do two rounds and go to bed. She wakes me up at 6 am, says it's 'mid-morning' and tells me that I owe her 2500 or she'll call the cops. I show her screenshots of our convo and say go ahead. She frowns and leaves without further issue. Of note, I've had issues with the 3 Gauguin girls I've done overnight so I suggest doing it in house. It may be me, but I think they like to take advantage of gringos (we're very common in area given proximity to business and WTC).
The next two nights I spent at Scandallo with Annagie and SocratesNY. Big shout out to them for how welcoming they were as well as a couple other lesser known ISGers that I met. Overall good times at Scandallo. The first night I arrived after 7 pm and they had a band, I believe I paid 800 r (more for band nights), of which 500 r was consumption. There were easily 200+ girls and maybe 100 guys. I had a bit of analysis paralysis, but eventually settled down and started negotiations. Me being myself, I only went for the classic blonde beauties and none would go lower than 1500 for ST. I got a few numbers, but pride took over and I went home empty handed that night (stuck to 1200 ceiling). The next night I arrived before 7 pm, which is 300 r (as I recall) all consumable. Of note, I had bought a bottle the prior night ( 780 r) and they retried it for me). I continued to party with the others and found a nice light mulatta for which I agreed 2500 r all night, all holes (she offered LOL). Her exit fee was an additional 400 r. I ran into a little issue at the exit as she at first wanted me to pay her upfront at Scandallo via CC (would be 2750), I of course wanted to pay via cash afterwards (10% less). This became a bigger issue in the apartment as she insisted that I pay her upfront and wouldn't even agree to 1/2 before and 1/2 after. Started crying and everything (of note, I've never had a prepago cry with me and that sucked). We eventually reconcile and have decent sex although it was a serious libido killer. She says she'll make it up to me in the future.
The next couple nights I did a mix of clinica hopping with ISGer WorldJockey (Abboborra had the most talent per my view. 150 r for room and 250 r girl) and Seeking (girls 600-1400 for 3-5 hours) which had some real stunners. I dressed up and did nice dinners with a couple of them which really set them off. Generally speaking I got 2 rounds with each girl and all were BBBJ, covered FS (my preference), and CIM (they just did). I saw 3 of them again and they all were willing to try anal (only kinda worked with 1). The girls apparently take a drug or cocaine in their ass to numb it (or so they told me).
I saw the Scandallo girl that Saturday and we had a nice seafood dinner. We agreed to 1500 all night (1000 her and 500 Scandallo fine for missing the night). She was much better behaved this time and all the holes open.
The remaining time was a mix of new / repeat Seeking girls, a new Tinder girl, a high end clinica (Lotus Lounge for ~800 total, iPad selection, classic hot girls, make a reservation!) And an attempt at PhotoAcompanaes (I do not recommend, classic bait and switch. Girl did not even the same hair color LOL). My style is generally 2 girls a day.
The Seeking girls were probably 65% straight up ST prepagos, 20% soft pull older women trying it out (want gifts, travel), and 15% young and naive girls that think you'll buy them stuff without promise of reciprocal intimacy.
The last weekend I spend some time hitting up Vila Madelena bars with Brazilian friends. Palmeiras was playing Chelsea in the FIFA Club Cub and it was a lively environment. I had several very flirty conversations with 20-something garotas (I'm a younger looking 45) and think I could have had luck if given more time.
For restaurants I went to and recommend Sushi Vaz (Pinheiros), Sushi Nami (Moema / Indianapolis), A Figueira Rubaiya (Steak). For drinks I liked rooftops and L40 (W Hotel rooftop) and Baleia in particular.
Overall a solid trip. I would love to explore civilians and semi-pros more on my next trip as the hottest girls I saw were in my hotel for breakfast, SmartFit, and the rooftop bars. I'm not sure if they'd be receptive, but I do believe I caught several looking my way.
-Chicago.
Thanks for taking the time to write this. It looks like you had a lot of fun. Just today this is the second troubling report of Scandallo and Gauguin girls getting into take out mischief. I guess this is their way of taking advantage of the change in power dynamics once they are in your hotel or apartment. Their success rate is probably not bad if they make enough of a ruckus that business travelers decide it's better to get fleeced than deal with the authorities. I feel like not dealing with that old school bullshit should be part of the value of paying top dollar at the uber boates. After reading these reports I think I'm naive about that. Personally, my biggest problem with the boate scene is I don't like staying up all night and I really don't like having smoke blown up my ass to try to convince me I'm seducing some girl I'm about to pay Scandallo money. When I used to go there with co-workers I could ignore it because we would enjoy having drinks and debriefing the work day before going off with our girls. Nowadays when I go there with a personal friend or fly solo it feels more like a money grab for stuff that is no longer important to me. So I guess the point is the places are much more fun with running buddies and I don't go as often because I fly solo more often these days.
This is a bit of a long read and I hope you enjoy it. Again, there is no right or wrong way to monger. We each have our likes and dislikes. We read and we don't judge😜.
A few ISG friends and I had planned this trip in January so we could spend some time together in Rio and SP for approx 12-15 days. Flights and hotels were booked so we would be at the same hotel and take the same flight from Rio to SP. Our stay was at the Grand Hyatt and we had booked four rooms. This trip was going to be great and great it was. We covered all the normal stuff that everyone on this forum usually covers and I tried some new things for me which I will summarize.
I have been trying to set small challenges for myself since just getting one girl or two just doesn't seem to be so exciting. This trip I decided that I would use my regular girl who works at Scandello to help me complete what I call the "Skittles" harem challenge. Like a pack of skittles, I would have a blonde, a redhead, and / or a brunette / black hair in my harem that would allow BBFSCIP with all of them and of course allow going back and forth between them. I didn't let her know about it and figured I would try to find random girls at Scandello to see if I could pull this off just something to keep the nights interesting.
We stayed in the Grand Hyatt and the picture below of the "skittles" is from the same room as my last write up from January. The presidential suite was to be used as the main party room and we had stocked it up with alcohol, mixers and the such..
Thanks for taking the time to write this. It looks like you had a lot of fun. Just today this is the second troubling report of Scandallo and Gauguin girls getting into take out mischief. I guess this is their way of taking advantage of the change in power dynamics once they are in your hotel or apartment. Their success rate is probably not bad if they make enough of a ruckus that business travelers decide it's better to get fleeced than deal with the authorities. I feel like not dealing with that old school bullshit should be part of the value of paying top dollar at the uber boates. After reading these reports I think I'm naive about that. Personally, my biggest problem with the boate scene is I don't like staying up all night and I really don't like having smoke blown up my ass to try to convince me I'm seducing some girl I'm about to pay Scandallo money. When I used to go there with co-workers I could ignore it because we would enjoy having drinks and debriefing the work day before going off with our girls. Nowadays when I go there with a personal friend or fly solo it feels more like a money grab for stuff that is no longer important to me. So I guess the point is the places are much more fun with running buddies and I don't go as often because I fly solo more often these days.I haven't had issues with girls trying to run some scam on me from these places. The girl from Ganguin I think was just genuinely terrible at sex but she is drop dead gorgeous. She might be new to the game and doesn't have the experience. I was telling my friends that she would be an amazing girl to have on your arm as eye candy but she would need some help in the bedroom. I just wasn't in the mood to do the coaching but she was definitely trying to do a good job. She didn’t ask for payment upfront or create a scene or even ask or more money at the end.
I agree that buyers shouldn't have to deal with bullshit from those places but there are always some bad apples just as you expect in clinicas or termas or any other place. It is down to the buyer to spot red flags and walk away. Very rarely have I gotten red flags from girls at Scan but when I do, I immediately lose interest and they move on.
Visited Abbobora; it was the receptionist's birthday. They made the introductions presentations. First up was Sasha, a tall, sexy blonde who had just turned 20. No kids. She is top shelf pre-SCANDALLO garota before going the scandallo route. Natural booobs. . I quickly told the receptionist he wanted her first. I made sure to get her before other mofos came looking for sexy young talent.
Damn, had to double-check cute hair, blonde top and blonde bottom, blue eyes, and pretty face weren't Ukrainian or Russian. And not fake blonde. From the salon.
I invited her and another girl for a double session. Young, athletic blondes are fun once in a while.
We had an hour-long session.
Incredible performance in bed. Sport fcking lots of energy.
Repeat.
Visited Abbobora; it was the receptionist's birthday. They made the introductions and presentations. First up was Sasha, a tall, sexy blonde who had just turned 20. No kids. She is top-shelf pre-SCANDALLO garota before going the scandallo route. Natural booobs. I quickly told the receptionist he wanted her first. I made sure to get her before other mofos came looking for sexy young talent.
Damn, had to double-check cute hair, blonde top and blonde bottom, blue eyes, and pretty face weren't Ukrainian or Russian. And not fake blonde. From the salon.
I invited her and another girl for a double session. Young, athletic blondes are fun once in a while.
We had an hour-long session.
Incredible performance in bed. Sport fcking lots of energy.
Repeat.One odd process. I went to the hotel room next door to Abbobara pay for the room & the girls. After paying the forista rate via credit card.
The receptionist gave me $250 reais in cash to give each garota. She placed $500 brl on the counter in cash, $250 in each stack with the expectation.
For me To give the dinheiro directly to each garota in the room. Hmm I don't remember this paying garota directly using dinheiro from receptionist.
Well of course I got their Wassap to meet up later and cut out the middleman and overhead.
Scandallo increased its entry price by 100 reais? That's pretty much bullshit. Sure $20 USD isn't going to bankrupt any of us but at the same time they're fucking increasing these prices rapidly. Just from 2021 to now this must be at least their 3rd or 4th price increase.
Wonder if the entry fee for the working girls is also increased as well.
The next two nights I spent at Scandallo with Annagie and SocratesNY. Big shout out to them for how welcoming they were as well as a couple other lesser known ISGers that I met. Overall good times at Scandallo. The first night I arrived after 7 pm and they had a band, I believe I paid 800 r (more for band nights), of which 500 r was consumption. There were easily 200+ girls and maybe 100 guys. I had a bit of analysis paralysis, but eventually settled down and started negotiations. Me being myself, I only went for the classic blonde beauties and none would go lower than 1500 for ST. I got a few numbers, but pride took over and I went home empty handed that night (stuck to 1200 ceiling). The next night I arrived before 7 pm, which is 300 r (as I recall) all consumable. Of note, I had bought a bottle the prior night ( 780 r) and they retried it for me). I continued to party with the others and found a nice light mulatta for which I agreed 2500 r all night, all holes (she offered LOL). Her exit fee was an additional 400 r. I ran into a little issue at the exit as she at first wanted me to pay her upfront at Scandallo via CC (would be 2750), I of course wanted to pay via cash afterwards (10% less). This became a bigger issue in the apartment as she insisted that I pay her upfront and wouldn't even agree to 1/2 before and 1/2 after. Started crying and everything (of note, I've never had a prepago cry with me and that sucked). We eventually reconcile and have decent sex although it was a serious libido killer. She says she'll make it up to me in the future.
It was nice meeting you. I was one of those lesser known ISGers 😉.
Event days usually are very crowded and with expensive entry, so I tend to avoid those days unless I am meeting friends.
Your pre-payment story reminds me of my recent experience with Scan girl Tatiyana during my trip end of May.
None of the Scan girls asked me for prepayment except Tatiyana. The only question every other girl I took out from Scan or the person settled the bill asked me was 'How I would pay the girl? 'dinero' was always my response and that usually was the end of the conversation about the topic. I am always prepared to cancel the takeout if the girl insists on pre-payment. Tatiyana asked for prepayment while the bill was being settled. I told the person settling the bill that I would pay in cash when she leaves next morning at the agreed upon time and I would cancel the takeout if she insists of prepayment. Tatiyana quickly agreed to receive payment after, and we went off to my hotel in Moema.
The moment we walk into my hotel she asked for payment. I reminded her that she agreed for payment afterwards and she could leave if she insists of pre-payment. She asked me if I really want her to leave. I replied yes. She asks me 2 more times with a sad face. I told her that I would give her are $500 before and rest after for which she agreed with big smile. I don't get it, this prepayment insisting hoes get a kick out of getting some payment, I guess. Everything went well after that, but I don't think I am interested in seeing her again based on her behavior.
I've had issues with the 3 Gauguin girls I've done overnight so I suggest doing it in house. It may be me, but I think they like to take advantage of gringos (we're very common in area given proximity to business and WTC).
Looks like Gauguin is full of scammers. I am guessing the Gauguin management don't give a shit about customers being scammed by the girls work there. This sort of shenanigans wouldn't fly at Scan and that is why the most girls there don't pull this kind of shit. Gauguin is on my list of places to visit, but I am reconsidering after reading your experience.
Scandallo increased its entry price by 100 reais? That's pretty much bullshit. Sure $20 USD isn't going to bankrupt any of us but at the same time they're fucking increasing these prices rapidly. Just from 2021 to now this must be at least their 3rd or 4th price increase.
Yes, the entry fee has been increased to are $400 from last week of June, which is all consumable, if you arrive before 7 pm and are $200 if you arrive after 7 pm.
Exit fee is now $400 and the room fee is now $350 (increased by are $50. I was told).
Wonder if the entry fee for the working girls is also increased as well.Probably. Most girls avoid paying that fee by working 5 days a week.
Yes, the entry fee has been increased to are $400 from last week of June, which is all consumable, if you arrive before 7 pm and are $200 if you arrive after 7 pm.
Exit fee is now $400 and the room fee is now $350 (increased by are $50. I was told).
Probably. Most girls avoid paying that fee by working 5 days a week.The entry fee is now 600 reais with 400 reais consumable if you arrive after 7 pm. So that's basically $110 USD cover. Granted sure you can have your dinner and drinks with the 400 consumable and all but still.
And wow the room fee was 250 reais the last time I session'd at Scandallo which hasn't been more than a year away. And the room fee and exit fee used to be the same amount, I thought that was the whole point of it.
I think the greed of the owners will eventually lead to the demise of this otherwise great establishment. Hopefully some other boate takes advantage and offers more fair entry pricing and room / exit fee and such. I'll deal with the expensive drink prices and expensive food prices (which is so pricey that you can easily surpass the consumable after buying just a very few drinks for chicks) but them raising the entry fee and exit fee and all like this is just crazy to me. $110 usd is the price of a session with a high caliber chica in many places around the world (Colombia, Mexico etc). I prefer Brazil but still. Hell that's basically 3 sessions at a clinica in Moema. I wonder if we will see 1000 reais entry fee at Scandallo in maybe 2-3 years.
The entry fee is now 600 reais with 400 reais consumable if you arrive after 7 pm. So that's basically $110 USD cover. Granted sure you can have your dinner and drinks with the 400 consumable and all but still.
And wow the room fee was 250 reais the last time I session'd at Scandallo which hasn't been more than a year away. And the room fee and exit fee used to be the same amount, I thought that was the whole point of it.
I think the greed of the owners will eventually lead to the demise of this otherwise great establishment. Hopefully some other boate takes advantage and offers more fair entry pricing and room / exit fee and such. I'll deal with the expensive drink prices and expensive food prices (which is so pricey that you can easily surpass the consumable after buying just a very few drinks for chicks) but them raising the entry fee and exit fee and all like this is just crazy to me. $110 usd is the price of a session with a high caliber chica in many places around the world (Colombia, Mexico etc). I prefer Brazil but still. Hell that's basically 3 sessions at a clinica in Moema. I wonder if we will see 1000 reais entry fee at Scandallo in maybe 2-3 years.If last year's NFL and F1 season at Scandallo is any indication expect prices to jump. Bros coming to São Paulo first time, no porto, English only, were agreeing to 3 mil & 4 mil an hour session. They were losing their fvcking minds as garotas from all over Brasil came in for NFL and F1 week. Shit Scandallo opened on Sunday to accommodate the rain of money from bros that didn't know or care about 3 mil 4 mil one hour session with the hottest garotas flooding in from the entire country trying to get a baller.
Voodoo Jones
07-10-25, 15:11
The entry fee is now 600 reais with 400 reais consumable if you arrive after 7 pm. So that's basically $110 USD cover. Granted sure you can have your dinner and drinks with the 400 consumable and all but still.
And wow the room fee was 250 reais the last time I session'd at Scandallo which hasn't been more than a year away. And the room fee and exit fee used to be the same amount, I thought that was the whole point of it.
I think the greed of the owners will eventually lead to the demise of this otherwise great establishment. Hopefully some other boate takes advantage and offers more fair entry pricing and room / exit fee and such. I'll deal with the expensive drink prices and expensive food prices (which is so pricey that you can easily surpass the consumable after buying just a very few drinks for chicks) but them raising the entry fee and exit fee and all like this is just crazy to me. $110 usd is the price of a session with a high caliber chica in many places around the world (Colombia, Mexico etc). I prefer Brazil but still. Hell that's basically 3 sessions at a clinica in Moema. I wonder if we will see 1000 reais entry fee at Scandallo in maybe 2-3 years.That's my biggest gripe with the popular clubs (not just in Brazil): the prices keep going up every year while the quality doesn't. If you're new to a city, it's worth a visit once, but you can find better and cheaper options elsewhere.
If last year's NFL and F1 season at Scandallo is any indication expect prices to jump. Bros coming to So Paulo first time, no porto, English only, were agreeing to 3 mil & 4 mil an hour session. They were losing their fvcking minds as garotas from all over Brasil came in for NFL and F1 week. Shit Scandallo opened on Sunday to accommodate the rain of money from bros that didn't know or care about 3 mil 4 mil one hour session with the hottest garotas flooding in from the entire country trying to get a baller.There's too many stupid people with money if people were paying 3 and 4 mil an hour for sessions in Brazil. You can get top notch girls in the hobbying scene in LOS Angeles, New York, Miami etc for that price. Why even fly all the way out to Brazil for that? Like I said, there's unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) too many people with money these days. Perhaps lot of crypto bros that became rich overnight and don't really know what to do with their gains. Unless the ones paying these prices are just all families of NFL players or the players themselves who make $10-20 M / yr doing this, then sure all bets are off.
I know this happens though and that's why I've always avoided F1 week. But now I know that the NFL game week is like that too so will avoid that as well.
The entry fee is now 600 reais with 400 reais consumable if you arrive after 7 pm. So that's basically $110 USD cover. Granted sure you can have your dinner and drinks with the 400 consumable and all but still.
And wow the room fee was 250 reais the last time I session'd at Scandallo which hasn't been more than a year away. And the room fee and exit fee used to be the same amount, I thought that was the whole point of it.
I think the greed of the owners will eventually lead to the demise of this otherwise great establishment. Hopefully some other boate takes advantage and offers more fair entry pricing and room / exit fee and such. I'll deal with the expensive drink prices and expensive food prices (which is so pricey that you can easily surpass the consumable after buying just a very few drinks for chicks) but them raising the entry fee and exit fee and all like this is just crazy to me. $110 usd is the price of a session with a high caliber chica in many places around the world (Colombia, Mexico etc). I prefer Brazil but still. Hell that's basically 3 sessions at a clinica in Moema. I wonder if we will see 1000 reais entry fee at Scandallo in maybe 2-3 years.It is definitely getting pricy. Entry for event days might hit that 1 K mark soon, if not already.
The prices Scan girls are asking have steadily gone up and probably will go up further after this entry fee increase. This will increase the number of men that visit the place just to handout with friends, eat, drink and go somewhere else to find pussy. Which translates to more and more Scan girls going empty handed.
It is definitely getting pricy. Entry for event days might hit that 1 K mark soon, if not already.
The prices Scan girls are asking have steadily gone up and probably will go up further after this entry fee increase. This will increase the number of men that visit the place just to handout with friends, eat, drink and go somewhere else to find pussy. Which translates to more and more Scan girls going empty handed.The way I see it for about ten years between 2002 and around 2012 I fucked the hottest girls on the planet in German FKKs for EUR 100 per hour so I've been there done that. No need for me to go chasing the hottest girls around now spending hundreds of dollars overseas on a session with girls who are no where near the looks of girls I have banged in the past. From my experience after around 2012 looks of hookers began to decline worldwide.
The way I see it for about ten years between 2002 and around 2012 I fucked the hottest girls on the planet in German FKKs for EUR 100 per hour so I've been there done that. No need for me to go chasing the hottest girls around now spending hundreds of dollars overseas on a session with girls who are no where near the looks of girls I have banged in the past. From my experience after around 2012 looks of hookers began to decline worldwide.I started visited FKKs in 2012 as it stared declining because lot of German / Duch / Polish / Russian girls complaining about Romanian girls flooding the clubs which kept the price at 50 Euro for a long time and eventually stop working in the clubs. At Goldentime the 1st hour was 75 Euro and the subsequent hours are just 50 Euros. Those were unbelievable prices for amazing service girls provided then. Now German FKKs have become shit with girls demanding 200+ Euros per hour for provide mediocre service. You could upgrade to average service for 100 Euro upcharge 😔.
Like with FKKs, I guess, I caught the tail end of Brazil scene when I started visiting in 2019. Since then, the prices have gone up considerably and the quality of the girls gone down.
I started visited FKKs in 2012 as it stared declining because lot of German / Duch / Polish / Russian girls complaining about Romanian girls flooding the clubs which kept the price at 50 Euro for a long time and eventually stop working in the clubs. At Goldentime the 1st hour was 75 Euro and the subsequent hours are just 50 Euros. Those were unbelievable prices for amazing service girls provided then. Now German FKKs have become shit with girls demanding 200+ Euros per hour for provide mediocre service. You could upgrade to average service for 100 Euro upcharge 😔.
Like with FKKs, I guess, I caught the tail end of Brazil scene when I started visiting in 2019. Since then, the prices have gone up considerably and the quality of the girls gone down.I don't think there is a market in the world where the price has not gone up.
Do I wish I could get primo pussy for less than 100 USD? Sure. Did that exist somewhere in the 2010's? Or the 2000's? Maybe in the 90's? Sure.
But complaining about inflation, or geo-economics, sex laws, or onlyfans or whatever scapegoat we want to blame is really fruitless.
The best one can do it keep their ear to the ground. Read these forums. And follow-your nose.
Soa Paulo and the FKK-lands still represent some of the best hunting grounds on the planet.
Steve 9696
07-10-25, 18:28
I honestly don't have a big problem with consumable going up. This is just saying don't come in here and not spend money. And since I do spend money it's fine for me. I cant recall exiting Scandallo with less than 1000 R bar tab. And for others it encourages use of the restaurant to eat the consumables. And frankly the food is really good.
But yeah I hope they aren't taxing the garotas. There is a strip club where I live that was bought by Ricks. They raised single song lap dances to $40. Wtf? No one is paying that. We go there often for drinks and ogling but no fucking way I'm taking a girl and I'm a high roller. It's just fucking wrong. So the club makes drink money and the girls starve because no one will buy a dance. Really sucks. Will definitely cause club failure in the next couple years as girls will stay away.
There are too many stupid people with money if people were paying 3 and 4 mil an hour for sessions in Brazil. You can get top-notch girls in the hobbying scene in LOS Angeles, New York, Miami, etc for that price. Why even fly all the way out to Brazil for that? Like I said, there are unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) too many people with money these days. Perhaps a lot of crypto bros who became rich overnight don't know what to do with their gains. Unless the ones paying these prices are just all families of NFL players or the players themselves who make $10-20 M / yr doing this, then sure all bets are off.
I know this happens though and that's why I've always avoided F1 week. But now I know that the NFL game week is like that too so I will avoid that as well.Yeah, last year NFL week was everywhere. Ads in CGH airports, boats, bars all looking for those Philly NFL ballers and fans. They figure if you can pay $1 mil brl to $2 mil brl to buy a ticket for an NFL away game, plus airfare, travel 9+ hours to Sao Paulo, BTW watch hotel & Airbnb rates bump up too. Then bros paying $3 mil brl $4 mil brl a session is a reason enough for top of the market Scandallo to raise entry prices, raining money for them. I watched from near the DJ booth upstairs in Scandallo, all the Google Translate deals going on. I just shook my head, bounced after the game was over on the big screen, and hoped like hell the pricing would revert to "normal" the following month.
Its been mentioned before but many guys can be a one time baller for a weekend or week in scandallo.
I honestly don't have a big problem with consumable going up. This is just saying don't come in here and not spend money. And since I do spend money it's fine for me. I cant recall exiting Scandallo with less than 1000 R bar tab. And for others it encourages use of the restaurant to eat the consumables. And frankly the food is really good.
But yeah I hope they aren't taxing the garotas. There is a strip club where I live that was bought by Ricks. They raised single song lap dances to $40. Wtf? No one is paying that. We go there often for drinks and ogling but no fucking way I'm taking a girl and I'm a high roller. It's just fucking wrong. So the club makes drink money and the girls starve because no one will buy a dance. Really sucks. Will definitely cause club failure in the next couple years as girls will stay away.They raised it to $40 a dance at least two decades ago in the town I used to live in. So, my question would be WTH took so long? And bozos were paying it too! No telling what it is now. And they don't even play full songs per dance. Like half a song! I just can't bring myself to patronize an American strip club anymore. It's such a rip off where you're not supposed to touch and "PC" girls get ticked off if you pop a boner while they grind on you! What a fucking joke! Have passport. Will travel!
It was nice meeting you. I was one of those lesser known ISGers 😉....
Your pre-payment story reminds me of my recent experience with Scan girl Tatiyana during my trip end of May.
None of the Scan girls asked me for prepayment except Tatiyana.....
The moment we walk into my hotel she asked for payment. I reminded her that she agreed for payment afterwards and she could leave if she insists of pre-payment....
....Looks like Gauguin is full of scammers. I am guessing the Gauguin management don't give a shit about customers being scammed by the girls work there. Yes, I should have cancelled at the exit, but she said that she'd been working at Scandallo for 6 months and everyone she'd been with paid by CC prior. It was my first time taking a Scandallo girl LT, but so against my normal procedure that I wasn't sure what to think!
At the apartment she again asked for it upfront and then pulled the crying card stating that she'd been called a lot of things, but wasn't a liar.
I think Gauguin is for the girls that can't hack it at Scandallo or handle it one way or the other. I think you have a good number of girls who are just looking for some quick cash. The bartenders seemed ok, but the front desk gave pretty poor service. They didn't speak any English and refused to slow down their Porto cadence so that I could understand when I asked about a couple items on the bill. They wouldn't do google translate either. It did turn out that all charges were correct during my visits, but was annoying that they wouldn't explain.
There's too many stupid people with money if people were paying 3 and 4 mil an hour for sessions in Brazil. You can get top notch girls in the hobbying scene in LOS Angeles, New York, Miami etc for that price. Why even fly all the way out to Brazil for that? Like I said, there's unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) too many people with money these days. Perhaps lot of crypto bros that became rich overnight and don't really know what to do with their gains. Unless the ones paying these prices are just all families of NFL players or the players themselves who make $10-20 M / yr doing this, then sure all bets are off.
I know this happens though and that's why I've always avoided F1 week. But now I know that the NFL game week is like that too so will avoid that as well.I was at 57 Friends last year during NFL Week and a guy told me that he budgeted $800 / day for the week beyond his accommodation (for food, drinks, girls). He later shared that he was a Costco warehouse worker. No shade on those hard working people, but I was like damn. He can't have that much money and is probably spending all of his savings from the past year in a week!
I honestly don't have a big problem with consumable going up. This is just saying don't come in here and not spend money. And since I do spend money it's fine for me. I cant recall exiting Scandallo with less than 1000 R bar tab. And for others it encourages use of the restaurant to eat the consumables. And frankly the food is really good.
But yeah I hope they aren't taxing the garotas. There is a strip club where I live that was bought by Ricks. They raised single song lap dances to $40. Wtf? No one is paying that. We go there often for drinks and ogling but no fucking way I'm taking a girl and I'm a high roller. It's just fucking wrong. So the club makes drink money and the girls starve because no one will buy a dance. Really sucks. Will definitely cause club failure in the next couple years as girls will stay away.Same here. I don't have an issue with the consumable going up since I was going to spend the money anyway. A bottle of gin is 750 are and dinner for myself is close to 300 are and then you have add in the mixers. So easily 1200 without any effort. I don't live in a big city so I don't know how much it costs to go out in NYC / MIA / LA or Las Vegas but I am pretty sure it is pretty similar. This club wants spenders and does its part to attract them. If you aren't a spender, the club doesn't really want people like you. So they price it higher to keep the riff raff out. People in this forum need to understand that we are a very tiny percentage of the clients the club attracts so if we don't go, it doesn't even make a slight dent in the bottom line of the club.
Unfortunately, the girl entry price went up to 400 as did the "saida". Again, I ain't going to * about the 100 are extra and I am pretty sure neither are the regular clients of the club. Just the cost of doing business. If girls don't want to pay the 400, they can work 5 days a week to avoid it. Just like my employee has to work 5 days a week to keep his job. If they have the ability to make more than normal, they can pay the fine. Really makes no difference in my book. I am sure there would be an amount where I would think twice about paying the "saida" and thankfully I haven't reached that yet.
After this past trip, I can now state that the quality and quantity of girls at Scandello just doesn't compare. I usually never hit the other clubs or clinicas since I don't spend too many days in SP but this time I did. Let's stop throwing the bullshit that the girls are of similar quality no they are fucking not. The good thing about SP is that there is something for everyone from the super high class girls who don't even work at Scandello to the skinny crack working girls working the streets at crackolandia. Just figure out where you want to be and do that.
Talking about F1 and NFL, what can you expect when you bring world class events to a city that has serious cash and big players? Of course, prices are going up and people want to earn as much as possible. Nothing wrong in that. I was there last year during NFL weekend and was annoyed that my upgrade didn't clear but the hotel was fully booked so I didn't expect an upgrade. So guess what I did this year. I just moved my reservation back one week for both September and November. Now I don't have to deal with that bullshit and will pay normal rates. Simple. If I wanted to see the game or partake in the activities, then I would just have to pay more. I did that during World Cup in Brazil and would probably never do it again.
We all need to be grateful that we have access to the girls of Brazil especially So Paulo because after a total shitshow of talent in BA, I definitly am grateful for the wonderful country of Brazil!!
The next two nights I spent at Scandallo with Annagie and SocratesNY. Big shout out to them for how welcoming they were as well as a couple other lesser known ISGers that I met. Overall good times at Scandallo. The first night I arrived after 7 pm and they had a band, I believe I paid 800 r (more for band nights), of which 500 r was consumption. There were easily 200+ girls and maybe 100 guys. I had a bit of analysis paralysis, but eventually settled down and started negotiations. Me being myself, I only went for the classic blonde beauties and none would go lower than 1500 for ST. I got a few numbers, but pride took over and I went home empty handed that night (stuck to 1200 ceiling). The next night I arrived before 7 pm, which is 300 r (as I recall) all consumable. Of note, I had bought a bottle the prior night ( 780 r) and they retried it for me). I continued to party with the others and found a nice light mulatta for which I agreed 2500 r all night, all holes (she offered LOL). Her exit fee was an additional 400 r. I ran into a little issue at the exit as she at first wanted me to pay her upfront at Scandallo via CC (would be 2750), I of course wanted to pay via cash afterwards (10% less). This became a bigger issue in the apartment as she insisted that I pay her upfront and wouldn't even agree to 1/2 before and 1/2 after. Started crying and everything (of note, I've never had a prepago cry with me and that sucked). We eventually reconcile and have decent sex although it was a serious libido killer. She says she'll make it up to me in the future.
-Chicago.Wow, 2500 R for over night. Thats crazy. Thats way over price.
Wow, 2500 R for over night. Thats crazy. Thats way over price.Agreed. I think 1500-2000 used to be normal for LT and 800-1000 for ST, but prices have gone up considerably. For what it's worth it was all holes and the 4 ISGers with me said she was smoking' and worth it when I vacillated.
What have you paid recently from Scandallo LT? You seem like someone who must go a lot to have a strong opinion. For non-Scandallo I pay anywhere from 800 to 1500 for LT, but usually do ST.
You can't compare Sao Paulo prices to Sosua, Medellin, or Pattaya, that's for sure!
I don't think there is a market in the world where the price has not gone up.
Do I wish I could get primo pussy for less than 100 USD? Sure. Did that exist somewhere in the 2010's? Or the 2000's? Maybe in the 90's? Sure.
But complaining about inflation, or geo-economics, sex laws, or onlyfans or whatever scapegoat we want to blame is really fruitless.
The best one can do it keep their ear to the ground. Read these forums. And follow-your nose.
Soa Paulo and the FKK-lands still represent some of the best hunting grounds on the planet.What part of my post was complaint? Maybe you and some of the forum members should try to distinguish between someone complaining and someone sharing information, facts and observations.
Agreed. I think 1500-2000 used to be normal for LT and 800-1000 for ST, but prices have gone up considerably. For what it's worth it was all holes and the 4 ISGers with me said she was smoking' and worth it when I vacillated.
What have you paid recently from Scandallo LT? You seem like someone who must go a lot to have a strong opinion. For non-Scandallo I pay anywhere from 800 to 1500 for LT, but usually do ST.
You can't compare Sao Paulo prices to Sosua, Medellin, or Pattaya, that's for sure!The last 2 trips to Sao Paola, I went to Scandolla but did not take any thing up. We will always go to Casera after Scandola. I usually take a girl in Casera. I like darker and thicker females. I rarely see any in Scandolla. I like drinking and hanging out in Scandolla. I'm going to Sao Paulo in September. The most I'm willing to pay is 1000 R ST.
The last 2 trips to Sao Paola, I went to Scandolla but did not take any thing up. We will always go to Casera after Scandola. I usually take a girl in Casera. I like darker and thicker females. I rarely see any in Scandolla. I like drinking and hanging out in Scandolla. I'm going to Sao Paulo in September. The most I'm willing to pay is 1000 R ST.Yes, that makes sense for ST. My limit is generally 1200, but the conventional hot blonde ones all started at 2500-3000 before settling at 1500. I went home with my dick in hand the one night as I didn't lower. Hopefully you have better luck.
The 2500 was LT from 12 am to 9 am. Still a lot I think, but not comparable at all to your 1000ST. At Casarao I've never paid more than 600 r for ST. I just hate that it starts so late. And as most of us know, the darker and thick women are much cheaper than the thinner and lighter ones.
Hanzonamura
07-11-25, 02:45
What have you paid recently from Scandallo LT?1500 to 2000 overnight until mid-morning to late afternoon. Actually, exactly 1500 or 2000.
For other clubs, consistently 1000 and on two occasions, 1200. At the other clubs, there seemed to be a tendency to leave earlier in the morning.
I'll add, this isn't based on grinding away with negotiations. I pick someone and the amount was always in the range, with one exception, as of the last two months. In the one case, she instantly agreed when I countered to the original offer. She was lovely. We spent many nights together.
1500 to 2000 overnight until mid-morning to late afternoon. Actually, exactly 1500 or 2000.
For other clubs, consistently 1000 and on two occasions, 1200. At the other clubs, there seemed to be a tendency to leave earlier in the morning.
I'll add, this isn't based on grinding away with negotiations. I pick someone and the amount was always in the range, with one exception, as of the last two months. In the one case, she instantly agreed when I countered to the original offer. She was lovely. We spent many nights together.Got it. My prices aren't too far off with more recent inflation. I rarely do more than one counter offer as extended negotiations are a turnoff for both parties. One of the girls (young blonde from Curitiba) wouldn't go lower than 1700 for ST and when I jokingly threw out 1500, said 'only 30 minutes. ; I was like WTF. I didn't even know that was an option LOL.
Despite speaking some decent Portuguese and being a tall / fit mid 40's, I find that I pay more than many guys for some reason. I can only venture that I have the look of a classic 'rich' gringo and am too nice to the girls. (i. e. Someone to be exploited kkk.) I also tend to pull earlier around 11:30 pm / 12 am. This 2 am stuff isn't for me. I do regularly get much better rates on future meet ups (Scandallo girl did 1500 the second time for 8pm-8am) and the occasional freebies with girls looking to lock me down as a BF. OF course this is usually tied to a nicer restaurant date.
...... I like darker and thicker females......You must be very happy in today's mongering world.
One of the girls (young blonde from Curitiba) wouldn't go lower than 1700 for ST and when I jokingly threw out 1500, said 'only 30 minutes.I stayed in Curitiba last year. The best looking girl who is a real blonde with blue eyes in the boate asked for 700 or 800 that is basically the standard pricing. There was one girl who has worked in Scandello and wasn't even that attractive asked for 100 more. Because Curitiba is so small so I got to know most of the places and many girls. Some work in casa charging less than 200 an hour. Some work in the boate or high end clinica charging around 700 to 800. Some would go to the freelancer clubs after work and charging more or less the same. It was about 500 when I was there if I remember the number correctly. I talked to the manager and he confirmed the number to me as well.
I also dated a SB in Sao Paulo last year who was also from Curitiba. She speaks 4 languages fluently. She made 2500 a month and the job was in an abusive environment so she quitted her job to try to become an actress or model.
I don't think there is a market in the world where the price has not gone up..It depends on market segment. In Bangkok, go go has gone up. I went to a gogo, and they want to charge me for asking the girl to sit with me. LOL. Thermae or the street girls do not seem to have changed much. I even met a girl from Georgia (Europe) on soi 11 wanting only 3000. The viets are charging 2500 or less. KTVs in Vietnam have gone up. Do you see the common theme here? You are not going to see the type of prices mentioned here if you go to less popular cities in Brazil.
I stayed in Curitiba last year. The best looking girl who is a real blonde with blue eyes in the boate asked for 700 or 800 that is basically the standard pricing. There was one girl who has worked in Scandello and wasn't even that attractive asked for 100 more. Because Curitiba is so small so I got to know most of the places and many girls. Some work in casa charging less than 200 an hour. Some work in the boate or high end clinica charging around 700 to 800. Some would go to the freelancer clubs after work and charging more or less the same. It was about 500 when I was there if I remember the number correctly. I talked to the manager and he confirmed the number to me as well. I also dated a SB in Sao Paulo last year who was also from Curitiba. She speaks 4 languages fluently. She made 2500 a month and the job was in an abusive environment so she quitted her job to try to become an actress or model.In Curitiba earlier this year, I found that from around 600 to 800 reals depending would get the deal done for an hour session in most cases at the more popular boates.
Yes, that makes sense for ST. My limit is generally 1200, but the conventional hot blonde ones all started at 2500-3000 before settling at 1500. I went home with my dick in hand the one night as I didn't lower. Hopefully you have better luck.
The 2500 was LT from 12 am to 9 am. Still a lot I think, but not comparable at all to your 1000ST. At Casarao I've never paid more than 600 r for ST. I just hate that it starts so late. And as most of us know, the darker and thick women are much cheaper than the thinner and lighter ones.Wow, 600 for a girl at Casarao. The most I ever paid was 300. Never knew those thinner and lighter chicks where charging that much.
Vagabundo1
07-12-25, 08:20
https://garotacomlocal.com/acompanhante/rebeca-villar/ anyone fucked her in SP? Tell her that Vagabundo Felipe Ret Bengala in Rio wants her to come to Rio de Janeiro, Barra Posto 7 or soon Posto 2. Reports appreciated. 300 r for vaginal (with condom! Haha).
Wow, 600 for a girl at Casarao. The most I ever paid was 300. Never knew those thinner and lighter chicks where charging that much.I'd love to see these beautiful girls that you are paying (at most) 300 r from Casarao. So you normally pay like 200 r? That's < $40. Is this for only 30 minutes?? I've never heard of such things to be honest and never paid less than 400 r myself for 60 minutes (I never do less).
Others can chime in, but I think 500-600 r is pretty standard at Casarao these days for 60 minutes, particularly when I'd pull at 12-1 am, and also for the talent that I go for. I usually only find 4-5 that I'm attracted to and need to act fast before they're pulled by someone else. Again, I speak pretty decent Porto and chat them up as well. You must be a Casanova for 200-300 r.
At any rate, to each their own. I see that we fish in very different parts of the ocean, but both have a great time. Enjoy!
.... I also dated a SB in Sao Paulo last year who was also from Curitiba. She speaks 4 languages fluently. She made 2500 a month and the job was in an abusive environment so she quitted her job to try to become an actress or model.....I found a surprising number of the girls on those sites to be former models. Many are well travelled and quite sharp, particularly those in the upper 20's. For what it's worth, when I was learning Portuguese I had an online teacher / tutor from PrePly. I started off paying her $12/ HR, before eventually getting to $18/ HR. She wasn't the best teacher, but VERY attractive and spoke decently fluent American English. I asked her story. Turns out that she was a model in L. A. For 7 years (verified with website), and then aged out around 26-27. She lost her USA Visa and had moved back in with her parents (lived on one of the Barra the Tijuca golf courses). Basically needed to start all over once the modeling thing didn't work out long term. They also don't pay the low-level models much so they need side $$.
I found a surprising number of the girls on those sites to be former models. Many are well travelled and quite sharp, particularly those in the upper 20's. For what it's worth, when I was learning Portuguese I had an online teacher / tutor from PrePly. I started off paying her $12/ HR, before eventually getting to $18/ HR. She wasn't the best teacher, but VERY attractive and spoke decently fluent American English. I asked her story. Turns out that she was a model in L. A. For 7 years (verified with website), and then aged out around 26-27. She lost her USA Visa and had moved back in with her parents (lived on one of the Barra the Tijuca golf courses). Basically needed to start all over once the modeling thing didn't work out long term. They also don't pay the low-level models much so they need side $$.I don't know how long I would stick to learning Portuguese without trying to get into her panties.
In Curitiba earlier this year, I found that from around 600 to 800 reals depending would get the deal done for an hour session in most cases at the more popular boates.What I am trying to say with this example is that the pricing is location dependent. The girls are going to charge the going rate of the location and not based on where the other job pays. Because everything is so close together in Curitiba and most other places close early so girls from different locations with different pricing would go to the same freelancer club like Metro or Class to charge the same price.
The Scandello girl has been influenced by big city so she wanted more, but still much less than what typically mentioned here for Scandello.
I found a surprising number of the girls on those sites to be former models. I think there are different types of models. I had a tutor who was a model too. She belongs to a modeling agency and I can see her profile on the agency website. She travelled with other models in the agency and shared room with them, and they often ate instant noodle as meals. They travel for work and would stay in a city until the next assignment comes. She is very discrete and more inline of the regular Brazilian women that I know. I met her during COVID lockdown.
I don't know how long I would stick to learning Portuguese without trying to get into her panties.Ha, I tried! After about a month of lessons I was in Rio and hit her up. We went to the beach in Barra, but I couldn't get any further with her. She had a more age appropriate on again, off again, American boyfriend who was a banker in L. A.
I'd love to see these beautiful girls that you are paying (at most) 300 r from Casarao. So you normally pay like 200 r? That's < $40. Is this for only 30 minutes?? I've never heard of such things to be honest and never paid less than 400 r myself for 60 minutes (I never do less).
Others can chime in, but I think 500-600 r is pretty standard at Casarao these days for 60 minutes, particularly when I'd pull at 12-1 am, and also for the talent that I go for. I usually only find 4-5 that I'm attracted to and need to act fast before they're pulled by someone else. Again, I speak pretty decent Porto and chat them up as well. You must be a Casanova for 200-300 r.
At any rate, to each their own. I see that we fish in very different parts of the ocean, but both have a great time. Enjoy!I think the poster you're replying to is likely referring to the short term rate in Casarao which yeah is like 30 or 40 minutes for 300 reais I think. Girls can set their own rate but that's usually about the standard there.
I'd love to see these beautiful girls that you are paying (at most) 300 r from Casarao. So you normally pay like 200 r? That's < $40. Is this for only 30 minutes?? I've never heard of such things to be honest and never paid less than 400 r myself for 60 minutes (I never do less).
Others can chime in, but I think 500-600 r is pretty standard at Casarao these days for 60 minutes, particularly when I'd pull at 12-1 am, and also for the talent that I go for. I usually only find 4-5 that I'm attracted to and need to act fast before they're pulled by someone else. Again, I speak pretty decent Porto and chat them up as well. You must be a Casanova for 200-300 r.
At any rate, to each their own. I see that we fish in very different parts of the ocean, but both have a great time. Enjoy!
The last time I was in Sao Paulo was in September, I paid $R300. I just asked a friend and he says he pays $R400 to $500 for an hour. I will be in Sao Paulo in September again this year. I guess prices have went up.
I think the poster you're replying to is likely referring to the short term rate in Casarao which yeah is like 30 or 40 minutes for 300 reais I think. Girls can set their own rate but that's usually about the standard there.Its usually one pop. I'm good with that. A few times the phone rang and we where just finish getting dress. So it usually 40 min to 1 hour.
I'd love to see these beautiful girls that you are paying (at most) 300 r from Casarao.
At any rate, to each their own. I see that we fish in very different parts of the ocean, but both have a great time. Enjoy!In casarao & scandallo I ask for their instagramma account to follow each other. They love posting bikini shots in love motels --Lush, green bikini cutie and her sister.
Easier to remember them days later, and always ask about inviting their sexy girlfriends vis instagram messages.
On wassap they post photos about their food (I don't care they are eating at outback stakehouse) silky kids doing silly things, and dumb morning messages.
Its usually one pop. I'm good with that. A few times the phone rang and we where just finish getting dress. So it usually 40 min to 1 hour.The rooms at Casarao usually are busy especially after 2 am. The were times I had to wait more than half hour for a room and don't think management would let me stay for than few minute more than I paid for. After hearing how successful you are getting girls for are $200 or so, I shouldn't be surprised to learn Casarao management lets you stay in the room for up to an hour when you paid for half hour. I hope you continue have such great success.
RahulMangla2009
07-13-25, 08:33
Hello friends. Hope you can help guide me on my first trip to Sao paulo. Planning to be there in mid August for a week, with the solo purpose of mongering. I have mongered across Medellin, San Jose (Costa Rica), Dubai, Bangkok. Medellin by far has remained my most favorite until now, followed by dubai (russians! But too far to go to dubai from US. Have been to Medellin 4-5 times already, and looking to switch things up. Sao Paulo seems to be my next goal.
A bit about me: I don't like to be cheap, especially when I am doing a s*x vacation. Don't mind splurging on best looking girls. Hence, planning to hit Scandallo every night (seems like closed on Sunday though). Is Scandallo open during afternoons as well, and has some girls then? Also planning to explore Bomboa, Casarao. During day time, I also plan to hit some of the clinicas (the luxury ones seem to be The Palms and Lushness).
My game plan: I usually try to get 3-4 shots in a 24 hour period. So, planning for 1 at a clinica in the morning / afternoon; 1 in early evening at Scandallo / Bomboa / Casarao, and 1-2 with a girl overnight at my hotel (or a love motel. See below) that I pick up from Scandallo.
I am most confused about hotel: Usually when I go to Dubai, I will stay at Double Tree Hilton M Square. If some of you have gone there, you would know, it is a pretty nice 5 star, not crazy expensive (about 200-350 USD per night), and super girl visitor friendly. What could be a good equivalent in Sao paulo? I have RTFF and seems like Moema neighborhood is a good choice, but seems a bit far from Scandallo. However, has the I checked out Rosewood, but seems very expensive for a week long stay ($500-$600 USD per night). What will you recommend as a solid 5 star hotel in the 200-350 USD per night range? I also got intrigued by the concept of Love motels (e. G. , Lush motel looks very nice! Should I just stay at a love motel for 7 nights? Or is it only for a few hour trips you would recommend I. E. Pick a girl from Scandallo and spend the night with her at Lush motel and then come back to my home base hotel?
Axel Heyst
07-13-25, 13:00
Great tip!
In casarao & scandallo I ask for their instagramma account to follow each other. They love posting bikini shots in love motels --Lush, green bikini cutie and her sister. Easier to remember them days later and always ask about inviting their sexy girlfriends vis instagram messages.
On wassap they post photos about their food (I don't care they are eating at outback stakehouse) silky kids doing silly things, and dumb morning messages.I try to take my own shots of the girls and I find that most boate girls are fine with it. Some are extrovert and will pose, others will only allow face shots or selfies of the 2 of us. Most girls will loosen as they become more comfortable with me after a couple of repeat sessions back at the hotel. But I find that clinca girls are more reluctant to pose. Usually, the most they will give me are head shots, but some clinica girls are opposed to even that. That is where your instagram tip can really help out.
Hello friends. Hope you can help guide me on my first trip to Sao paulo. Planning to be there in mid August for a week, with the solo purpose of mongering. I have mongered across Medellin, San Jose (Costa Rica), Dubai, Bangkok. Medellin by far has remained my most favorite until now, followed by dubai (russians! But too far to go to dubai from US. Have been to Medellin 4-5 times already, and looking to switch things up. Sao Paulo seems to be my next goal.
A bit about me: I don't like to be cheap, especially when I am doing a s*x vacation. Don't mind splurging on best looking girls. Hence, planning to hit Scandallo every night (seems like closed on Sunday though). Is Scandallo open during afternoons as well, and has some girls then? Also planning to explore Bomboa, Casarao. During day time, I also plan to hit some of the clinicas (the luxury ones seem to be The Palms and Lushness).
My game plan: I usually try to get 3-4 shots in a 24 hour period. So, planning for 1 at a clinica in the morning / afternoon; 1 in early evening at Scandallo / Bomboa / Casarao, and 1-2 with a girl overnight at my hotel (or a love motel. See below) that I pick up from Scandallo.
Sounds like a fun plan. Can it done? Yes but I wouldn't recommend it. São Paulo has horrible traffic so you will spend a lot of time going back and forth. If you want to hit the clinicas, then your afternoon will be busy in that. You will have to check out a few before you find something you like and most of them don't start till 1 pm. Scandello and Bomboa open at 12 pm. Casarao doesn't get started till late night like 1 am.
You could hit the clinicas in the afternoon, get 1-2 shots in, go back to your hotel and rest till evening, then head to Scandello before 7 pm to avoid pay the full entry, take one up to the room and then head out to Casarao around 1 am and find something there and use the hotel next door. This could be done but it will depend on your age and energy levels.
As per the hotel, I usually stay at the Renaissance in Jardim Paulista which is a very nice safe area with lots of shopping and restaurants in case you get bored of all the fucking.
Enjoy your stay!
Hello friends. Hope you can help guide me on my first trip to Sao paulo. Planning to be there in mid August for a week, with the solo purpose of mongering......
A bit about me: I don't like to be cheap, especially when I am doing a s*x vacation. Don't mind splurging on best looking girls. Hence, planning to hit Scandallo every night (seems like closed on Sunday though). Is Scandallo open during afternoons as well, and has some girls then? Also planning to explore Bomboa, Casarao. During day time, I also plan to hit some of the clinicas (the luxury ones seem to be The Palms and Lushness).
My game plan: I usually try to get 3-4 shots in a 24 hour period. So, planning for 1 at a clinica in the morning / afternoon; 1 in early evening at Scandallo / Bomboa / Casarao, and 1-2 with a girl overnight at my hotel (or a love motel. See below) that I pick up from Scandallo.
I am most confused about hotel: ..... I have RTFF and seems like Moema neighborhood is a good choice, but seems a bit far from Scandallo. However, has the I checked out Rosewood, but seems very expensive for a week long stay ($500-$600 USD per night). What will you recommend as a solid 5 star hotel in the 200-350 USD per night range? I also got intrigued by the concept of Love motels (e. G. , Lush motel looks very nice! Should I just stay at a love motel for 7 nights? Or is it only for a few hour trips you would recommend I. E. Pick a girl from Scandallo and spend the night with her at Lush motel and then come back to my home base hotel?I agree with Anaggie comments. Here are a couple reports from SocratesNY that should be read if you missed.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2997731&viewfull=1#post2997731
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2997729&viewfull=1#post2997729
The luxury hotels will be girl friendly, but I have not found the mid-range Moema hotels and Airbnbs to NOT be very girl friendly. Sometimes you can unregister a person and add another the next night, but many are stricter and security often like to flex their power. A good number are women as well, so harder to give a tip with a wink like the male porteros in Medellin. For luxury I have stayed at the Grand Hyatt, JW Marriott, and W Hotel. All have been quite girl friendly.
If you do stay in Moema, you can get a love motel as you need it. I like Asturias which is 400 r / nt, so $70, and works well if your hotel is picky. They may charge a little bit more for additional girls, but unsure. There are other love motels for even cheaper if you search. I do not believe you can stay there 24-7. Usually you rent for 6 or 12 hours. They do have food and drink menus for convenience.
In regards to traffic, YES it is bad during the day, but I have not found it that bad when I was going to Scandallo from Moema (7-10 pm) or returning (12-1 am) usually.
Lastly, you're a high roller, which is good. Just be prepared to shell out some decent coin for Scandallo. I haven't been to Dubai, but guessing that prices are on par with that. Definitely more than Costa Rica or Germany, and much more than Colombia. The clinicas on the other hand are quite equitable and 350-450 r a pop.
Practice your Portuguese and Enjoy!
What is the policy of massage clinics, private houses, nightclubs, swing houses, love motels, and similar businesses when it comes to providing identification? In all of my prior travels in Germany and Europe I have never had to show identification. My concern is that the ID will be stolen (rare, I am sure) or copied, and then later used for fraud or (worse) extortion. I might expect a love motel to want to see my ID, but what about all these variations on brothels? I like to use a nickname and prefer a clinic or house not to know my given name and country.
The rooms at Casarao usually are busy especially after 2 am. The were times I had to wait more than half hour for a room and don't think management would let me stay for than few minute more than I paid for. After hearing how successful you are getting girls for are $200 or so, I shouldn't be surprised to learn Casarao management lets you stay in the room for up to an hour when you paid for half hour. I hope you continue have such great success.LOL, management has no clue how much one negotiated for with a girl. The room cost is the same regardless. If it's not busy, no line for the rooms, they'll let the time run over a bit, especially if they like you.
Great tip!
I try to take my own shots of the girls and I find that most boate girls are fine with it. Some are extrovert and will pose, others will only allow face shots or selfies of the 2 of us. Most girls will loosen as they become more comfortable with me after a couple of repeat sessions back at the hotel. But I find that clinca girls are more reluctant to pose. Usually, the most they will give me are head shots, but some clinica girls are opposed to even that. That is where your instagram tip can really help out.Yup same experience--though Asian garotas in clinicas and boates were super protective of their privacy. When meeting garotas first time I got tired of the wassap numbers changing or the garotas moving friom clinica to clinica changing haircolor, makeup, and different names, some bouncing back and forth from Rio to SP via blablacar. Or cheap $45 usd one way flight, they change hairstyles color. , cellular. Some have personal and a professional instagram accounts to keep the circles separate. But as you say after a couple of meetups there is a comfort level.
Hanzonamura
07-13-25, 21:02
I have not found the mid-range Moema hotels and Airbnbs to NOT be very girl friendly. Sometimes you can unregister a person and add another the next night, but many are stricter and security often like to flex their powerAfter reserving my last AirBnb, I received broader house rules adding all visitors must be pre-registered with language including non-registered guests would be absolutely prohibited So, I registered someone prior to check-in. On the 2nd night of my stay, late evening, she arrived in a revealing, short, tight black dress, heels. Turned towards reception but before I took two steps, security waved me away with very enthusiastic smiles. Continued with other guests for the rest of the day.
Compiled list of Love Motels frequently mentioned in posts with a review.
With Moema as a starting point.
Sao Paulo. Love motels.
Andar de Cima. Sutes. Centro, So Paulo (erotic fun suites, short Uber from Casarao, next door to Love Cabaret, suites suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, fun party atmosphere in suites).
Motel Colonial Palace (fucking best economical deal on the budget, decent pool, excellent food, and breakfast, short Uber from Scandallo, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, damn uber drivers prefer pickup outside instead of meeting in suites, the religious uber drivers never come inside, only outside drop-off, or pick up or they cancel the ride).
Lush Motel (unidade Ipiranga) (pool with toys, modern suites, short Uber from Scandallo decent size pool, suitable for threesome, all night, foursome are a bit tight, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service).
Secrets Motel are. Sebastopol, 47 - Vila Inglesa, So Paulo (nice daytime midpoint place to meet garotas when they live far away, suites average, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, marola friendly, service sucks, order iFood).
Hotel For Lovers, one minute walk from Jabaqura Metro.
Are. Dos Jequitibs, 261 - Jardim Oriental, (the rooms suck, the service sucks, and the price is cheap mas barrato, order iFood, however, the location for afternoon meetup, no Uber needed. Garotas takes the metro to Jabaquara Metro, walks less than one minute to the motel, a good meet-up spot when there is rain, afternoon thunderstorms, and traffic backed up for miles, and promised to meet at 5 pm, nothing else to recommend about the place). Garotas can leave by metro or onibus, easy in easy out for them).
Swing Motel, no Morumbi, So Paulo (far from scandallo, 20 min uber from Moema, erotic fun suites, suites suitable but tight for threesome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, ok service, colorful suites).
Chicago85.
Love Motel. Motel Asturias.
Perhaps this should go in a different thread, but I figured it comes up enough to put in the main SP one.
Last night I was in a familiar scenario where I didn't want to add another guest to my airbnb and needed an option. I'm staying in Moema and did not want to travel far and went to Motel Asturias (Pinheiro) on a friends suggestion. It turned out to be a great spot if you're with a first time girl who may be sketchy or if you just want to have a solid sport fucking session with a garota or two. It's 400 are for the base suite, but this is two floors, probably 1000 sq ft and includes a jacuzzi as well as sauna (plus queen bed). The Presidential suite is 650 are and includes a pool. In my case it was a hell of a lot of fun fucking the girl all over the suite (jacuzzi, bed, on stairs, shower, etc.). I even got a last rushed one in at her request as her Uber was on the way.
Chicago85.
If you do stay in Moema, you can get a love motel as you need it. I like Asturias which is 400 are / nt, so $70, and works well if your hotel is picky. They may charge a little bit more for additional girls, but unsure. There are other love motels for even cheaper if you search. I do not believe you can stay there 24-7. Usually you rent for 6 or 12 hours. They do have food and drink menus for convenience.
Steve 9696.
First, a shoutout to Lush motel. OMFG this place is fire! 🔥 They have 3, 6, and 12 hour blocks and you can book same day. But the key is how off the hook it is, especially for the price. I booked their Lush Spa Splash for 12 hours for $130 And boy is it worth it.
The suite is over 700 sq ft. And INSIDE the suite is a jacuzzi, sauna, and 10 x20 pool! Wtf! It is epic! There is this magic cabinet where when you order food and drinks, a bell rings and the shit shows up in the cabinet. No answering the door or having some dude deliver stuff. Just food and drinks at the beckon and it magically appears. Prices weren't bad either. You should def go to Lush, preferably with a duo which makes it even more fun.
https://lushmotel.com.br
In Rio.
Panda Motel Botafogo, (top end suites with fvcking large ass pool, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service in tuxedos, short Uber from Monte Carlos).
Mr Enternational.
Actually the love motels in Brazil are some of the most extravagant in the world. If you look at some of the porno movies, they film a lot of them there. They have pools and waterfalls and shit. Just search "moteis (plural of motel) rio de janeiro".
https://bambinahotel.com.br/
https://corintohotel.com.br/
https://demaiohotel.com.br/
Steve 9696
07-13-25, 21:22
What is the policy of massage clinics, private houses, nightclubs, swing houses, love motels, and similar businesses when it comes to providing identification? In all of my prior travels in Germany and Europe I have never had to show identification. My concern is that the ID will be stolen (rare, I am sure) or copied, and then later used for fraud or (worse) extortion. I might expect a love motel to want to see my ID, but what about all these variations on brothels? I like to use a nickname and prefer a clinic or house not to know my given name and country.You are being overly paranoid. Yes you have to give ID at most places. Scandallo and Casarao for sure. But don't sweat it. No one is going to blackmail you. They hardly speak English. Much easier to blackmail a rich local. Not that that will happen either. These places live or die on discretion. Even credit card charges are obfuscated under some innocuous name. It never says Joes Blowjob Emporium.
You are being overly paranoid. Yes you have to give ID at most places. Scandallo and Casarao for sure. But don't sweat it. No one is going to blackmail you. They hardly speak English. Much easier to blackmail a rich local. Not that that will happen either. These places live or die on discretion. Even credit card charges are obfuscated under some innocuous name. It never says Joes Blowjob Emporium.Yeah, my last trip I was settling the bill at a club (forget which one) and saw a charge for two "desserts" on there. I said I had not ordered any desserts. They told me that was code for a couple of condoms LOL! I typically like to use my own but don't always get to. But yes, discretion is very important and maintained at these establishments.
What is the policy of massage clinics, private houses, nightclubs, swing houses, love motels, and similar businesses when it comes to providing identification? In all of my prior travels in Germany and Europe I have never had to show identification. My concern is that the ID will be stolen (rare, I am sure) or copied, and then later used for fraud or (worse) extortion. I might expect a love motel to want to see my ID, but what about all these variations on brothels? I like to use a nickname and prefer a clinic or house not to know my given name and country.I used my old driver license. They do not care what kind of document you show, until it has picture, name, and dob.
What is the policy of massage clinics, private houses, nightclubs, swing houses, love motels, and similar businesses when it comes to providing identification? In all of my prior travels in Germany and Europe I have never had to show identification. My concern is that the ID will be stolen (rare, I am sure) or copied, and then later used for fraud or (worse) extortion. I might expect a love motel to want to see my ID, but what about all these variations on brothels? I like to use a nickname and prefer a clinic or house not to know my given name and country.I understand some of the concern, but as the other commenter noted, these places operate on discretion as well as loyalty, and one bad review could sink them.
In my experience in SP. Clinicas (no ID), love motels (ID), nightclubs including Scandallo-Casarao-Gauguin-Bomboa (ID).
In Rio. Clinicas (no ID), Termas (usually ID), love motels (no ID), nightclubs (50-50 on ID).
FWIW, I just carry my passport card or an expired military ID. Something that doesn't have any additional details like address to be used. I have known more paranoid guys to use fake IDs for running around as well, just be sure you don't get caught coming back to the USA With it.
The rooms at Casarao usually are busy especially after 2 am. The were times I had to wait more than half hour for a room and don't think management would let me stay for than few minute more than I paid for. After hearing how successful you are getting girls for are $200 or so, I shouldn't be surprised to learn Casarao management lets you stay in the room for up to an hour when you paid for half hour. I hope you continue have such great success.I always paid for an hour. I thought the rooms where hourly. LOL, It like the old butcher shops, when you took an number and waited for your number to come up.
CaliTraveler
07-14-25, 08:26
Could someone describe to me what are clinical and boates? I have been only in Belo Horizonte and visited motels near the bust terminal in the north so I'm not all that Brazil experienced but will get there hopefully soon. Also is anyone could provide any addresses in Rio and São Paulo. Thanks in Advance.
Could someone describe to me what are clinical and boates? I have been only in Belo Horizonte and visited motels near the bust terminal in the north so I'm not all that Brazil experienced but will get there hopefully soon. Also is anyone could provide any addresses in Rio and So Paulo. Thanks in Advance.A clinica is a brothel with a set price that you select a girl and have sex. A boate is in a club setting with freelancers. Most of the clubs have room on site. You can mingle with girls in some clinicas like in a club but usually no foreplay that is common clubs like Scandello.
I always paid for an hour. I thought the rooms where hourly. LOL, It like the old butcher shops, when you took an number and waited for your number to come up.I think others assume it was half hour because of how much you paid the girl.
But as you say after a couple of meetups there is a comfort level.I gave the girl the phone to take picture and let them decide what is comfortable for them. One girl would not use my phone and she has to use her phone. The difference is that she has the filter always on, not sure how she did it.
I have been playing with the giimbal to remote control it with my watch. The girl knew it's there but she has no idea how I control it. LOL.
I am most confused about hotel: Usually when I go to Dubai, I will stay at Double Tree Hilton M Square. If some of you have gone there, you would know, it is a pretty nice 5 star, not crazy expensive (about 200-350 USD per night), and super girl visitor friendly. What could be a good equivalent in Sao paulo? I have RTFF and seems like Moema neighborhood is a good choice, but seems a bit far from Scandallo. However, has the I checked out Rosewood, but seems very expensive for a week long stay ($500-$600 USD per night). What will you recommend as a solid 5 star hotel in the 200-350 USD per night range? I also got intrigued by the concept of Love motels (e. G. , Lush motel looks very nice! Should I just stay at a love motel for 7 nights? Or is it only for a few hour trips you would recommend I. E. Pick a girl from Scandallo and spend the night with her at Lush motel and then come back to my home base hotel?The Renaissance is a nice hotel and not only is it girl friendly, there are usually garotas working at the lobby bar. I don't recommend that you session with any of them, but that should give you an idea of how laid back the management is. It's a little closer to Scandellos than the JW, and very convenient if you want to try Casarao.
Axel Heyst
07-14-25, 21:39
You plan is solid, just remember, all plans go out the window upon arrival as you start meeting the girls andget tinto the action. KKK! Enjoy!
As to hotels: There are lots of good 4. 5 to 5* GF choices. Here are a few that I have stayed at and can recommend for various reasons: I like the Rennaissance & the Intercontinental in Jardim. The Grand Mercure Itaim Bibi, the Marriott Exec Apt in Itaim Bibi, my favorite neighborhood to stay, and the nearby W (a new Marriott that I have not been to before, but have an upcoming reservation for on my next trip. And lastly there is the JW, the Hyatt, the Hilton, the Sheraton, and the Gran Estanplaza Berrini over by the river in Morumbi, more or less. Plus, since you like Hilton, they have 2 additional hotels to consider: the Qoya Hotel Sao Paulo (Paulista Ave) and the DoubleTree (Itaim Bibi). Read more in the hotel thread and choose your poison.
A. H.
Hello friends. Hope you can help guide me on my first trip to Sao paulo. Planning to be there in mid August for a week, with the solo purpose of mongering. I have mongered across Medellin, San Jose (Costa Rica), Dubai, Bangkok. Medellin by far has remained my most favorite until now, followed by dubai (russians! But too far to go to dubai from US. Have been to Medellin 4-5 times already, and looking to switch things up. Sao Paulo seems to be my next goal.
A bit about me: I don't like to be cheap, especially when I am doing a s*x vacation. Don't mind splurging on best looking girls. Hence, planning to hit Scandallo every night (seems like closed on Sunday though). Is Scandallo open during afternoons as well, and has some girls then? Also planning to explore Bomboa, Casarao. During day time, I also plan to hit some of the clinicas (the luxury ones seem to be The Palms and Lushness).
My game plan: I usually try to get 3-4 shots in a 24 hour period. So, planning for 1 at a clinica in the morning / afternoon; 1 in early evening at Scandallo / Bomboa / Casarao, and 1-2 with a girl overnight at my hotel (or a love motel. See below) that I pick up from Scandallo.
I am most confused about hotel: Usually when I go to Dubai, I will stay at Double Tree Hilton M Square. If some of you have gone there, you would know, it is a pretty nice 5 star, not crazy expensive (about 200-350 USD per night), and super girl visitor friendly. What could be a good equivalent in Sao paulo? I have RTFF and seems like Moema neighborhood is a good choice, but seems a bit far from Scandallo. However, has the I checked out Rosewood, but seems very expensive for a week long stay ($500-$600 USD per night). What will you recommend as a solid 5 star hotel in the 200-350 USD per night range? I also got intrigued by the concept of Love motels (e. G. , Lush motel looks very nice! Should I just stay at a love motel for 7 nights? Or is it only for a few hour trips you would recommend I. E. Pick a girl from Scandallo and spend the night with her at Lush motel and then come back to my home base hotel?
You are being overly paranoid. Yes, you have to give ID at most places. Scandallo and Casarao for sure. But don't sweat it. No one is going to blackmail you. They hardly speak English. Much easier to blackmail a rich local. Not that that will happen either. These places live or die on discretion. Even credit card charges are obfuscated under some innocuous name. It never says Joes Blowjob Emporium.All the advice given is spot on, in scandallo you can ask them to put your nickname in the system instead of the ID info. And they REALLY don't care about your name.
You can walk to 10 or 15 clinicas around Moema. Pay cash, use the name in gpguia profile to get the forista discount.
On my iphone Uber cache does keep track of places I have been. Random stupid uber messages are the worst!!
Uber on iPhone sends these types of random message throughout the entire day "bro you are 15 minutes from Scandallo and Secrets Sex motel. We have a Taxi promo going on right now for Uber One! You can visit Secrets sex motel & Scandallo again. Ready to go now?
Or in the list of suggested places to go, the immediate top three listed places Scandallo, Casarao, Secrets, Lush.
Those mofos should have a clear the Uber cache option for iPhones. Using the "hide the ride" button is not enough. Hot tempered, jealous, Brasilian girlfriend (s) can figure shit out just with a single glance at Uber's history or stupid Uber messages at random time. Yes I use dark protective covering for the cellular to make it less easier for Garotas to read the screen.
Kkklk.
All the advice given is spot on ......On my iphone Uber cache does keep track of places I have been. Random stupid uber messages are the worst!!
Or in the list of suggested places to go, the immediate top three listed places Scandallo, Casarao, Secrets, Lush.
Those mofos should have a clear the Uber cache option for iPhones. Using the "hide the ride" button is not enough. Hot tempered, jealous, Brasilian girlfriend (s) can figure shit out just with a single glance at Uber's history or stupid Uber messages at random time. Yes I use dark protective covering for the cellular to make it less easier for Garotas to read the screen...LOL. I had this exact scenario happen to me 2 x on my last trip when the girl asked me to call her an Uber! Of course it being post coitus, and me being a gentleman, I obliged. And when the respective girls looked at my phone to verify their addresses saw Scandallo (OMG!) Ha ha. Both girls went wide eyed, gave me the side glance, and made comments, but honestly I think it just turned them on a bit more as they thought I was a high roller or something.
I think others assume it was half hour because of how much you paid the girl.I never paid no more than $300 R. I'm going to Sao Paulo in Sept. Lets see how much they charge me in Casaera.
All the advice given is spot on, in scandallo you can ask them to put your nickname in the system instead of the ID info. And they REALLY don't care about your name.
You can walk to 10 or 15 clinicas around Moema. Pay cash, use the name in gpguia profile to get the forista discount.
Kkklk.Thanks for all of the feedback. I have a gpguia profile and hope to get the discount!
I have done a lot of reading about the massage clinics, but do any of you have recommendations for places with real massage? It seems that a real massage is more expensive than having sex in a clinic (300-400 are / hour massage vs 250 are / hour sex in some clinics). Go figure. I wouldn't mind taking a break from the sex to just relax with a sensitive therapeutic massage. Any suggestions?
I think others assume it was half hour because of how much you paid the girl.By the way, I still have yet to be anywhere in the world as a tourist where I have been told I could not use cash and had to use a credit card. I told you I would tell you when it happened, if ever, and it still has not to me in all my travels (started traveling internationally again last year). Not at any restaurant, bar, nightclub, grocery store, gift shop, nowhere. Cash or credit welcome! Again, if it's one that's been refused overseas it's been the credit card in favor of cash money. So, still waiting for someone to tell me credit card only. Nobody has ever refused to take this tourist's cash in over 50 countries. Cash remains a king! Especially when it comes to paying the tutes haha! Credit cards also are a king, but people are still taking that cash! Do they prefer one over the other? I don't know and don't care as along as I can use whichever I choose to in the moment.
Axel Heyst
07-15-25, 12:33
Could someone describe to me what are clinical and boates? I have been only in Belo Horizonte and visited motels near the bust terminal in the north so I'm not all that Brazil experienced but will get there hopefully soon. Also is anyone could provide any addresses in Rio and So Paulo. Thanks in Advance.Think of it this way; an SP clinica is like a BKK oily massage parlor with set prices and the girls work for the house. A SP boate is a nightclub full of FL, independant, working girls whom punters can audition, wine & dine if they want, and ultimately take upstairs or back home. Clinicas are mainly set up for afternoon & early evening diversions. Boates are generally set up for nighttime entertainment although there are exceptions (afternoon openings).
SP has clincas & boates. RJ has prives & termas. The prives are are cheaper than clinicas, but Prive talent and environment is not as good as the clinicas if you ask me. RJ termas remind me of Pattaya Gentlemen Clubs and there are some good termas in RJ. Terma girls work for the house (set prices) but are quite gregarious and punters can test drive them in the bar / lounge area them before deciding whether to ask them upstairs. Takeout is PROHIBITIVELY expensive. Lastly, RJ does not have any boates worth mentioning (so sad).
P.S. Look up the addresses yourself!
Does the Brazillian e-visa need to be printed in color or would black and white suffice? Searched for this online but didn't get any hits. Can someone who's traveled after the visa requirement confirm?
I think it's stupid that an "e-visa" needs to even be printed at all but I see it mentions that two printed copies are necessary for entry.
By the way, I still have yet to be anywhere in the world as a tourist where I have been told I could not use cash and had to use a credit card. ... Do they prefer one over the other?.I told you one example before already. Haha. Many places will prefer cash for tax reasons and you can easily get a discount with cash payment.
Here is a not entirely related example. Many places, especially the high end ones, that you pay the girl separately. If you put on a card, there is an extra charge. That charge is because the girl need to put tax on them.
Steve 9696
07-15-25, 15:34
Does the Brazillian e-visa need to be printed in color or would black and white suffice? Searched for this online but didn't get any hits. Can someone who's traveled after the visa requirement confirm?
I think it's stupid that an "e-visa" needs to even be printed at all but I see it mentions that two printed copies are necessary for entry.Yeah black and white is fine. Worked for me.
Steve 9696
07-15-25, 15:39
Think of it this way; an SP clinica is like a BKK oily massage parlor with set prices and the girls work for the house. A SP boate is a nightclub full of FL, independant, working girls whom punters can audition, wine & dine if they want, and ultimately take upstairs or back home. Clinicas are mainly set up for afternoon & early evening diversions. Boates are generally set up for nighttime entertainment although there are exceptions (afternoon openings).
SP has clincas & boates. RJ has prives & termas. The prives are are cheaper than clinicas, but Prive talent and environment is not as good as the clinicas if you ask me. RJ termas remind me of Pattaya Gentlemen Clubs and there are some good termas in RJ. Terma girls work for the house (set prices) but are quite gregarious and punters can test drive them in the bar / lounge area them before deciding whether to ask them upstairs. Takeout is PROHIBITIVELY expensive. Lastly, RJ does not have any boates worth mentioning (so sad).
P.S. Look up the addresses yourself!As usual Axel is on point. A couple adds tho. In terms of the RJ terma test drive you can of course French kiss a girl that is open to but also many will slip their hand under your robe and play with your dick. Experienced this at both Monte Carlo and Centaurus. Beware tho esp at Centaurus where the girls are first class sharks it's hard to skip the room after ten minutes of handy work!
Also I would say that Dolce Vita qualifies as a worthy RJ boate after 1 AM. Not nearly as good as SPs Scandallo or Casarao but you can def find a hottie for takeout. Casa Blanca would be another option but last time I was there they had a steep 600 R takeout fee. In my case it was a gem and I was not unhappy but def know it's steep going in!
Hanzonamura
07-16-25, 01:06
do any of you have recommendations for places with real massage?Buddha Spa was excellent. Didn't have the impression the pricing was unfair or prohibitive.
Exoticspirit
07-16-25, 01:48
Think of it this way; an SP clinica is like a BKK oily massage parlor with set prices and the girls work for the house. A SP boate is a nightclub full of FL, independant, working girls whom punters can audition, wine & dine if they want, and ultimately take upstairs or back home. Clinicas are mainly set up for afternoon & early evening diversions. Boates are generally set up for nighttime entertainment although there are exceptions (afternoon openings).
SP has clincas & boates. RJ has prives & termas. The prives are are cheaper than clinicas, but Prive talent and environment is not as good as the clinicas if you ask me. RJ termas remind me of Pattaya Gentlemen Clubs and there are some good termas in RJ. Terma girls work for the house (set prices) but are quite gregarious and punters can test drive them in the bar / lounge area them before deciding whether to ask them upstairs. Takeout is PROHIBITIVELY expensive. Lastly, RJ does not have any boates worth mentioning (so sad).
P.S. Look up the addresses yourself!This is great info. In general, are clinicas and boates in SP and also prives and termas in RJ in different class neighbourhoods which in turn kind of determine what they are, ie. , boates and termas are in higher end locations while clinicas and prives are in lower end areas?
Steve 9696
07-16-25, 12:12
This is great info. In general, are clinicas and boates in SP and also prives and termas in RJ in different class neighbourhoods which in turn kind of determine what they are, ie. , boates and termas are in higher end locations while clinicas and prives are in lower end areas?Definitely not. For example almost all the clinicas in SP are in Moema, which on balance is a nice residential area. Casarao is in a rougher location. Scan somewhere in the middle.
4 x4 is downtown and dicey area. Monte Carlo and the Boate's are all in Copa which, while you need to be careful at night is the big tourist Mecca.
So I see very little correlation between hours / type of venue and location.
Axel Heyst
07-16-25, 13:08
Great info here as well! I am a bit confused though. If these venues are generally bars and clubs that have a lot of FLs, then why would there be a take out fee? I can understand if the girl works for the bar much like those in Thailand where there is a bar fine. But if the girls are FLs, how is this tied to a takeout fee? If FLs can come and go as they please, what's stopping them from meeting with you outside the club to bypass such a takeout fee? I guess what I'm saying is that I'm equating take out fee to a bar fine in Thailand and don't understand the rationale if the girls are FLs who are not really working for the bar.This question more appropriately belongs in the Sap Paulo thread, so I will answer it here accordingly.
Many attractive, FL girls want to work in a boate because that is where they will find a lot of men with money in their wallets. Yes, boate girls are independent contractors, FLs, but this fact does not prevent a boate from imposing certain work requirements on the girls if they want to work in that particular boate and thus gain access to the bordello's well off customer base.
Scandallo, for example, with the largest customer base in Brazil, will charge girls an entry fee unless they sign up for specific weekly scheduling assignments. Scan has 2 shifts: an afternoon shift and the evening shift (10 pm to closing). Girls can choose either shift they prefer, but the club will assign specific, required nights for them to be there. If a girl does not comply with the scheduling, she will have to pay the entry fee. Most girls comply because they are working girls and not superstars, but I always see a few model quality girls arriving late at night. They seem to come and go as they like because they can afford to pay the entry fee since their ask is so high. KKK. There is also an exit fee (equal to the hotel fee) which keeps most girls in the club unless they find a customer that wants to pay the fee and take them out.
I and other BM's have posted many times about meeting boate girls outside of the club. This is very doable because a girl can just call the club and tell them she isn't feeling well. This excuse will work for a few days in a row, but eventually the club will take her off schedule and she will have to start paying the entry fee again when she wants to return. My favorite boate girl falls into this category. When I am in town, for 3 to 6 weeks, she takes leave of Scandallo, and effectively becomes, my mistress while I am in town. Then after I leave SP, she gets back on Scan's schedule. BTW, she dislikes having to be there until closing time. She says it gets real boring around 3 am.
Definitely not. For example almost all the clinicas in SP are in Moema, which on balance is a nice residential area. Casarao is in a rougher location. Scan somewhere in the middle. 4 x4 is downtown and dicey area. Monte Carlo and the Boate's are all in Copa which, while you need to be careful at night is the big tourist Mecca. So I see very little correlation between hours / type of venue and location.True Steve, but remember there are some clubs way out in Barra (absolute nicest, most upscale part of Rio). And then Solarium is in Lagoa, another more upscale part of the city which is also a bit of a haul from Copa, but not nearly as far as Barra. In my view, Solarium is a "must-see" terma. Perola Negra was also good with strong talent last time I was in Rio, but it's a long way from Copa man, which as you say, is where the majority of the action is. This is why I will never choose Barra as "headquarters". But Perola Negra was worth at least one visit during my last stay. And I will return!
In my view, Solarium is a "must-see" terma.
Solarium used to be "must-see" for me. However, the last few times I've gone there, it's been a total sausage fest in there. There's like 30 guys all sitting right next to each other shoulders touching and everything with like 20-25 girls around. And the talent level there isn't as nice as it once was either.
The place is just way too small overall. It's significantly smaller than Monte Carlo and Centaurus and probably slightly smaller than 4 x4 however 4 x4 has different floors and different stuff going on each floor so it seems more spread out at least.
Theres better places to go to than waste time at Solarium imo.
RahulMangla2009
07-17-25, 02:11
Thanks everyone on the guidance / ideas!
I checked out some of the 5* hotels for my dates (8/9 to 8/16) next month. The prices seem a bit too high. No? Most of these (renaissance / jw / hyatt etc.) seem to be easily $300-$400 per night plus taxes. I usually like to have a suite with a seating area just to relax with the girls / drink there before heading to the bed. The suites seem insane at $500-$600 per night or above. Is Sao Paulo supposed to be this expensive, or is it just the month of August that it becomes expensive / tourist visits?
Ended up booking the Marriott Executive apartment as it has that small apartment feel with a seating area. Though it is not high end / flashy. I might be ok with that, as I am thinking of going to some fancy motels (Lush, Asturia, or some of the other ones mentioned here in the forum) as they seem to be a nice deal I think for $100-$150 for some of the nicer suites with pools etc. Will love to take the girls there may be and then come back to my apartment and sleep. Couple of questions:
1. I think Marriott Executive apartments is supposed to be totally girl friendly and no upcharges? Seems like few reports mentioned that.
2. How do we usually book some of these love motels (lush / asturia)? Do I have to book in advance or I can just pick a girl from scandallo and take her to one and book it on the spot? I have heard that I can just show up in the driveway and choose on the computer what is available. Is that how it works?
3. What time does Scandallo close? I see on google it says 5 AM on most nights. If I am unable to pick up a girl by 4 AM in Dubai clubs, they just mostly disperse and sometimes I have to go back alone to my room (sucks! If I want to pick a girl late in the early morning I. E. Around 5 AM or even 6 AM, do girls hang out at scandallo? Any other spots you would recommend?
You plan is solid, just remember, all plans go out the window upon arrival as you start meeting the girls andget tinto the action. KKK! Enjoy!
As to hotels: There are lots of good 4. 5 to 5* GF choices. Here are a few that I have stayed at and can recommend for various reasons: I like the Rennaissance & the Intercontinental in Jardim. The Grand Mercure Itaim Bibi, the Marriott Exec Apt in Itaim Bibi, my favorite neighborhood to stay, and the nearby W (a new Marriott that I have not been to before, but have an upcoming reservation for on my next trip. And lastly there is the JW, the Hyatt, the Hilton, the Sheraton, and the Gran Estanplaza Berrini over by the river in Morumbi, more or less. Plus, since you like Hilton, they have 2 additional hotels to consider: the Qoya Hotel Sao Paulo (Paulista Ave) and the DoubleTree (Itaim Bibi). Read more in the hotel thread and choose your poison.
A. H.
Axel Heyst
07-17-25, 13:35
Thanks everyone on the guidance / ideas!
I checked out some of the 5* hotels for my dates (8/9 to 8/16) next month. The prices seem a bit too high. No? Most of these (renaissance / jw / hyatt etc.) seem to be easily $300-$400 per night plus taxes. I usually like to have a suite with a seating area just to relax with the girls / drink there before heading to the bed. The suites seem insane at $500-$600 per night or above. Is Sao Paulo supposed to be this expensive, or is it just the month of August that it becomes expensive / tourist visits?
Ended up booking the Marriott Executive apartment as it has that small apartment feel with a seating area. Though it is not high end / flashy. I might be ok with that, as I am thinking of going to some fancy motels (Lush, Asturia, or some of the other ones mentioned here in the forum) as they seem to be a nice deal I think for $100-$150 for some of the nicer suites with pools etc. Will love to take the girls there may be and then come back to my apartment and sleep. Couple of questions:
1. I think Marriott Executive apartments is supposed to be totally girl friendly and no upcharges? Seems like few reports mentioned that. SP 5-star hotel prices are in the stratosphere. I don't know anyone who pays the rack rate. But room rates fluctuate, almost weekly, and sometimes the chains offer weekend discounts or 3-to-5-night discount bookings that are much more reasonable. The main way I get around these huge rack rates is by using hotel points and annual voucher nights that I accumulate over time from various hotel chain credit cards like the Chase Marriott & Chase Hyatt. Having membership standing with these hotels can get you room upgrades at no additional cost when available. For example. On my last April visit the Intercontinental upgraded my reservation from their king bedroom to their largest 1 br suite facing the front of the hotel. I paid in points and vouchers for my 5-night stay. It was grand! And on the same trip, the Hyatt, while undergoing extensive lobby renovations, upgraded my queen bedroom reso to their 1 br suite facing the river. Again, I paid in points and vouchers for my 5-night stay. The Hyatt is my favorite hotel in SP despite the fact that the surrounding neighborhood is completely uninteresting and a touch out of the way.
That said, I like the Marriot Exec hotel. It ain't 5 star, but it is comfortable, it is girl friendly, and the location is GREAT. Unfortunately, Marriot does not accept hotel points for this property. It is cash only at all of their exec apartment hotels worldwide. I have stayed at 2 different Marriott Exec Apart Hotels in BKK and liked them both.
Voodoo Jones
07-17-25, 13:45
Thanks everyone on the guidance / ideas!
I checked out some of the 5* hotels for my dates (8/9 to 8/16) next month. The prices seem a bit too high. No? Most of these (renaissance / jw / hyatt etc.) seem to be easily $300-$400 per night plus taxes. I usually like to have a suite with a seating area just to relax with the girls / drink there before heading to the bed. The suites seem insane at $500-$600 per night or above. Is Sao Paulo supposed to be this expensive, or is it just the month of August that it becomes expensive / tourist visits?It's winter in Brazil, so this isn't the tourist season. That would be December to March when the prices are highest. In late February during Carnival, you'll see prices spike the most.
Solarium used to be "must-see" for me. However, the last few times I've gone there, it's been a total sausage fest in there. There's like 30 guys all sitting right next to each other shoulders touching and everything with like 20-25 girls around. And the talent level there isn't as nice as it once was either.
The place is just way too small overall. It's significantly smaller than Monte Carlo and Centaurus and probably slightly smaller than 4 x4 however 4 x4 has different floors and different stuff going on each floor so it seems more spread out at least.
Theres better places to go to than waste time at Solarium imo.In my visit to Rio earlier this year Solarium clearly had the best talent of all the termas. The talent was decent enough. Only 4 X4 had more clients. 4 X4 is much cheaper and I suppose more customers go to Solarium because the women are hotter.
Steve 9696
07-17-25, 16:06
To answer Rahuls other two questions.
Yes you can def do walk up checkin at Lush. In fact it's really the only way. Their online is good and sophisticated but requires a CPF (like a Brazilian tax payer number) and Brazilian phone number. So not really practical. But me and my bud (separate times) didn't have any problem booking at the gate and girls arriving a bit later.
And Scan closes at 5. If you can't score a girl by then something is seriously wrong and you should retire from the game. 😝 Seriously. The likelihood of finding nothing is basically zero. And if that's the case it's your issue. Really.
In my visit to Rio earlier this year Solarium clearly had the best talent of all the termas. The talent was decent enough. Only 4 X4 had more clients. 4 X4 is much cheaper and I suppose more customers go to Solarium because the women are hotter.We were in Rio around the same time earlier this year. I think I was about halfway through my trip when you arrived, so we were seeing the same thing at Solarium. It wasn't the best talent I've ever seen there. But not nearly the worst either. When in Rio I always have to stop in on Solarium at least once to see what's cooking. But this is the Sao Paulo thread, so best to turn it back to that.
To answer Rahuls other two questions.
And Scan closes at 5. If you can't score a girl by then something is seriously wrong and you should retire from the game. 😝 Seriously. The likelihood of finding nothing is basically zero. And if that's the case it's your issue. Really.I was just about to write something similar. If you can't score something by 5 am in Scandello, then it is time for some serious introspection.
Thanks everyone on the guidance /
1. I think Marriott Executive apartments is supposed to be totally girl friendly and no upcharges? Seems like few reports mentioned that.
2. How do we usually book some of these love motels (lush / asturia)? Do I have to book in advance or I can just pick a girl from scandallo and take her to one and book it on the spot? I have heard that I can just show up in the driveway and choose on the computer what is available. Is that how it works?
3. What time does Scandallo close? I see on google it says 5 AM on most nights. If I am unable to pick up a girl by 4 AM in Dubai clubs, they just mostly disperse and sometimes I have to go back alone to my room (sucks! If I want to pick a girl late in the early morning I. E. Around 5 AM or even 6 AM, do girls hang out at scandallo? Any other spots you would recommend?4. advice: learn some basic brasilian Portuguese. In scandallo you don't want be limited to only the english speaking garotas, yes google translate works for basic communication with garotas in scandallo, casarao & clinicas. They all know how to figure out a session without ingles but there are so many small, language hassles or silly miscommunication if limites to only using google translate. Your experience will be enhanced with a few basic phrases or having a brasilian spotify playlist handy to play music in the love motels.
I was just about to write something similar. If you can't score something by 5 am in Scandello, then it is time for some serious introspection.Hell, soon as the elevator doors open, take two steps toward the coffee bar on the right side. Stay silent, Smile and point your finger in the air upwards. Watch the line of garotas recognize the bat signal and approach you. Kkklk.
RahulMangla2009
07-17-25, 22:01
Haha!
Sorry I forgot to clarify. Sometimes I pick a girl around midnight for a couple of hours (that's usually the standard unit of engagement in Dubai clubs. Haha), and by the time I am done by around 2 am, I am exhausted or too tired. But around 3/4 am I realize that I should see someone else as well, so I make my way back to the club and miss out on the opportunity as they close down sharp at 4 am, and I am not a quick decision maker unfortunately. And then Dubai pretty dry during the day time (few online options).
But, seems like I should not have that problem in Sao Paulo. Thanks for clarifying on the love motels way of booking. I will just try to do that.
To answer Rahuls other two questions.
Yes you can def do walk up checkin at Lush. In fact it's really the only way. Their online is good and sophisticated but requires a CPF (like a Brazilian tax payer number) and Brazilian phone number. So not really practical. But me and my bud (separate times) didn't have any problem booking at the gate and girls arriving a bit later.
And Scan closes at 5. If you can't score a girl by then something is seriously wrong and you should retire from the game. 😝 Seriously. The likelihood of finding nothing is basically zero. And if that's the case it's your issue. Really.
RahulMangla2009
07-17-25, 22:02
I will try my best to pick some basic Brazilian Portuguese. I have working knowledge of Spanish, but realize that won't be useful in Brazil.
4. advice: learn some basic brasilian Portuguese. In scandallo you don't want be limited to only the english speaking garotas, yes google translate works for basic communication with garotas in scandallo, casarao & clinicas. They all know how to figure out a session without ingles but there are so many small, language hassles or silly miscommunication if limites to only using google translate. Your experience will be enhanced with a few basic phrases or having a brasilian spotify playlist handy to play music in the love motels.
I will try my best to pick some basic Brazilian Portuguese. I have working knowledge of Spanish, but realize that won't be useful in Brazil.Actually, having Spanish is quite useful. There are enough similarities that if you speak it well enough and slowly enough many Brazilians will get what you are saying. But, you won't understand them! But trust me. English plus Spanish plus a good translator app will take you a long way. I'm already a Spanish speaker and have been studying Brazilian Portuguese for a few months now, and I have good conversational Portuguese already. My command of Spanish has made the learning easy. By the time I return I'm going to be golden!
But around 3/4 am I realize that I should see someone else as wellFor various reasons, one can leave empty handed. But in your case, if budget is not a problem, then you should not unless it is a bad night. That may happen but rarely.
I suggest you to go to Casarao after midnight if you don't find anyone. The reason being that the same or the same type of girl that charges 1000 in Scandallo which may be considered overpriced would charge 500 at Casarao which could be considered a steal. I would only go to Casarao to find something cheaper, not something better, relatively speaking.
I suspect that you may not like Casarao. I spent a many nights there because I stayed near by and I don't like it. I am a slow guy, and Casarao is fast-paced
By the time I return I'm going to be golden!What took you so long to start?
What took you so long to start?My career. I just never had the time! But now I can say I speak three languages. English, Spanish, and Portuguese. But, I will still use a translator app for the Portuguese until I really have my confidence with it like I do with Spanish.
We were in Rio around the same time earlier this year. I think I was about halfway through my trip when you arrived, so we were seeing the same thing at Solarium. It wasn't the best talent I've ever seen there. But not nearly the worst either. When in Rio I always have to stop in on Solarium at least once to see what's cooking. But this is the Sao Paulo thread, so best to turn it back to that.It was only in my visit earlier this year that Solarium had the best talent. In my earliest trips to Rio decades ago Centaurus had the best talent for me. Second and third would be L'uomo then Monte Carlo. But in those days I mostly sessioned Help garotas. When Help closed I stopped going to Rio then shifted to Sao Paulo which had very hot girls but the service was not as good as Rio; no place in the world has girls who give as good service as cariocas.
Actually, having Spanish is quite useful. There are enough similarities that if you speak it well enough and slowly enough many Brazilians will get what you are saying. But, you won't understand them! But trust me. English plus Spanish plus a good translator app will take you a long way. I'm already a Spanish speaker and have been studying Brazilian Portuguese for a few months now, and I have good conversational Portuguese already. My command of Spanish has made the learning easy. By the time I return I'm going to be golden!But be careful when speaking Spanish to a Brazilian. Make sure they know you understand Portuguese is their language but maybe they can understand your Spanish.
But be careful when speaking Spanish to a Brazilian. Make sure they know you understand Portuguese is their language but maybe they can understand your Spanish.You shouldn't just go blabbering away in Spanish like assuming a Brazilian understands. Very rude. What I do is ask if they understand some Spanish first. But even if they say no, I have found that if you speak slowly many actually will understand you. But less of an issue for me now. Because I speak basic, conversational Portuguese thanks to my recent studies!
Even lusitanian Portuguese poses some difficulty for Brazilians to understand if they don't hail from the more educated classes. Expecting Spanish to be very helpful is naive, though it is useful as a background from which to learn Portuguese.
Even lusitanian Portuguese poses some difficulty for Brazilians to understand if they don't hail from the more educated classes. Expecting Spanish to be very helpful is naive, though it is useful as a background from which to learn Portuguese.There's nothing naive about it at all. I've been going to Brazil for a couple of decades with just English and Spanish and a little bit Portuguese, and having a blast! Then when smartphones and translator apps came along that took it to a whole new level. I'm a seasoned Brazil traveler who knows what I'm talking about. Simple Spanish used in the right way can be helpful when trying to communicate in Brazil. Even with uneducated prostitutes and doormen! I know because I have successfully used it over the years and won't let anyone deny me of my own lived experience. But for me it's all irrelevant now. I speak conversational Portuguese (and could always read simple Portuguese due to my Spanish). And I'm getting better every day!
Degenerate24
07-19-25, 08:53
It was only in my visit earlier this year that Solarium had the best talent. In my earliest trips to Rio decades ago Centaurus had the best talent for me. Second and third would be L'uomo then Monte Carlo. But in those days I mostly sessioned Help garotas. When Help closed I stopped going to Rio then shifted to Sao Paulo which had very hot girls but the service was not as good as Rio; no place in the world has girls who give as good service as cariocas.I thought I was one of the few who thought that Cariocas naturally provide a GFE service. It is almost like they put themselves in a movie while at it. I haven't come across this type of service elsewhere.
Axel Heyst
07-19-25, 13:08
Even lusitanian Portuguese poses some difficulty for Brazilians to understand if they don't hail from the more educated classes. Expecting Spanish to be very helpful is naive, though it is useful as a background from which to learn Portuguese.I find that my gringo Spanish is often times an impediment to my understanding Portuguese when spoken by ordinary Brazilians. The words on paper are similar, but the pronunciation gets me almost every time. KKK! I am still learning.
There's nothing naive about it at all. I've been going to Brazil for a couple of decades with just English and Spanish and a little bit Portuguese, and having a blast! Then when smartphones and translator apps came along that took it to a whole new level. I'm a seasoned Brazil traveler who knows what I'm talking about. Simple Spanish used in the right way can be helpful when trying to communicate in Brazil. Even with uneducated prostitutes and doormen! I know because I have successfully used it over the years and won't let anyone deny me of my own lived experience. But for me it's all irrelevant now. I speak conversational Portuguese (and could always read simple Portuguese due to my Spanish). And I'm getting better every day!Yeah kkk I get old women, elderly men, stupid kids mistaking me for the security guy, doorman, department store manager, all the fvcking time when they are looking for help in a department store or supermercado. It took a half a beat to understand why they are all calling "moco". My girl and I , we are busy buying men clothes in rachelo, 25 de marco, or the tailored shops in bras ,she wants me to dress "chave demais" because I have some " drip" about me. Fine. So we are in loja C & A , Rachelo ,half dozen random people coming up to me in conversations starting with "moco ajudar" or tio tio. Kkk. i like the translate app that can handle slang or local expressions . now no problem speaking porto.
Same thing in the clubs its just easier for conversations to flow. Plus a great spotify list of Ax,Baile Funk, Sertanej and urbano / trap music gets those garotos going and some porto.
I find that my gringo Spanish is often times an impediment to my understanding Portuguese when spoken by ordinary Brazilians. The words on paper are similar, but the pronunciation gets me almost every time. KKK! I am still learning.Agreed, particularly in Rio with the heavy 'ggjjuuuhhh' sound. I'm not sure how to best write LOL. While basic Spanish is helpful, many words that you'd think are the same are completely different, for example gym (En) - gimnasio (Sp) - academnia (Po) or birthday (En) - cumpleanos (Sp) - anniversario (Po) or thank you (En) - gracias (Sp) - obrigado (Po). Also querer (I want) in Spanish, translates more so as I love in Portuguese. This is just a small number. I need to consciously switch my brain around a little. Porto is easier in some ways because verb conjugation of he / she / you (informal) is basically the same, however there are 12 different tenses.
Agreed, particularly in Rio with the heavy 'ggjjuuuhhh' sound. I'm not sure how to best write LOL. While basic Spanish is helpful, many words that you'd think are the same are completely different, for example gym (En) - gimnasio (Sp) - academnia (Po) or birthday (En) - cumpleanos (Sp) - anniversario (Po) or thank you (En) - gracias (Sp) - obrigado (Po). Also querer (I want) in Spanish, translates more so as I love in Portuguese. This is just a small number. I need to consciously switch my brain around a little. Porto is easier in some ways because verb conjugation of he / she / you (informal) is basically the same, however there are 12 different tenses.The verb "querer" is used in the exact same way in Spanish. Yes, it means "to want". But, it's also very commonly used to express love and affection for another. Examples are "quiero mi mama" and "quiero mi esposa (wife)".
The verb "querer" is used in the exact same way in Spanish. Yes, it means "to want". But, it's also very commonly used to express love and affection for another. Examples are "quiero mi mama" and "quiero mi esposa (wife)".Ah-ah you fell into you own trap here. The correct form is "quiero a mi esposa" and "quiero a mi mama". Direct object with respect to a living being are preceded by preposition "a".
Portuguese is considered somewhat more difficult than Spanish, not only on account of its richer pronounciation. For example gender is less predictable in Portuguese, and does not always tally with the same words in Spanish (ex. El viage / a viagem; la samba / o samba etc.). Portuguese still has a future subjunctive tense which is obsolete in Spanish, as well as a "personal infinitive" tense which is quite an oddity since an infinitive is per definition a tenseless form. On the plus side, in Brazilian Portuguese you don't have to worry about the second person (Spanish: tu / vosotros).
Ah-ah you fell into you own trap here. The correct form is "quiero a mi esposa" and "quiero a mi mama". Direct object with respect to a living being are preceded by preposition "a".
Portuguese is considered somewhat more difficult than Spanish, not only on account of its richer pronounciation. For example gender is less predictable in Portuguese, and does not always tally with the same words in Spanish (ex. El viage / a viagem; la samba / o samba etc.). Portuguese still has a future subjunctive tense which is obsolete in Spanish, as well as a "personal infinitive" tense which is quite an oddity since an infinitive is per definition a tenseless form. On the plus side, in Brazilian Portuguese you don't have to worry about the second person (Spanish: tu / vosotros).I lived in Latin America for four years in two different countries, and the people said it exactly how I wrote it. It may not be technically correct in some respects, but that's how people spoke in everyday life, and that's how I say it too. Because it's every day communication with the "gente" that I care about. I'm not trying to give a speech to an educated audience on a complex subject or be a polished presenter on television. I'm just trying to communicate with ordinary people. When you learn a language, if you are being taught by someone who is a skilled instructor, they are going to teach you all the “correct” rules. But then when you get out there and start talking to real people, you find out how people actually speak, especially when it comes to slang. People do not follow all the “right” rules. Same thing with English speakers. As to Portuguese yes, I think most people agree that it's more challenging to learn. But already having Spanish makes it much easier to pick up. This is my lived experience. And I'm sticking to it!
RahulMangla2009
07-20-25, 16:55
Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.
Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.
I see a lot of girls with 'green' active button on the MeuPatrocinio, so am guessing they are active on it or logged in recently. I don't mind paying the fees to join, but don't want to run into scams there. Any feedback on that platform?
Or would you recommend any other path to go about lining up girls online? Facebook? Something else?
Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.
Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.
I see a lot of girls with 'green' active button on the MeuPatrocinio, so am guessing they are active on it or logged in recently. I don't mind paying the fees to join, but don't want to run into scams there. Any feedback on that platform?
Or would you recommend any other path to go about lining up girls online? Facebook? Something else?No reason whatsoever to do this in SP. I can assure you that unless you are complete tool, you will enjoy meeting the girls in Scandello. The girls are used to using Google Translate and all my experiences at Scandello and other places have been full on GFE. I like talking to girl and getting to know them because that is something that I truly enjoy. And I have never been disappointed in São Paulo. Can't say the same with other countries where a lot of the girls are very business like. Brazilian girls are just different!!
Degenerate24
07-20-25, 23:54
Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.
Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.
I see a lot of girls with 'green' active button on the MeuPatrocinio, so am guessing they are active on it or logged in recently. I don't mind paying the fees to join, but don't want to run into scams there. Any feedback on that platform?
Or would you recommend any other path to go about lining up girls online? Facebook? Something else?Skip the online if you are not there. It is more like a 50-50 because they use tons of filter. Whatever you do online, make sure you do a video call to make sure it is what you want / like.
I have had girls line up for other trips to other countries, and most of the time I either drop them, or end up with buyers remorse as I find hotter ones while hunting on site.
PepolesBuddy
07-21-25, 06:07
Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.
Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.Facebook or seeking is best. MP is full of scammers.
Voodoo Jones
07-22-25, 15:12
Facebook or seeking is best. MP is full of scammers.I don't think Seeking is worth it for Brazil. I was surprised how little women were on the site for a country with so many people. I did connect with a few on my first trip, but didn't bother on my second.
Currently considering Marriott Executive Apartments for an upcoming stay among others. Why do you say the location is so great. From a quick glance, it seems to be close to nothing of mongering interest. Please correct me.
That said, I like the Marriot Exec hotel. It ain't 5 star, but it is comfortable, it is girl friendly, and the location is GREAT. Unfortunately, Marriot does not accept hotel points for this property. It is cash only at all of their exec apartment hotels worldwide. I have stayed at 2 different Marriott Exec Apart Hotels in BKK and liked them both.
Axel Heyst
07-22-25, 20:26
Currently considering Marriott Executive Apartments for an upcoming stay among others. Why do you say the location is so great. From a quick glance, it seems to be close to nothing of mongering interest. Please correct me.I like the location for a variety of reasons: 1) the neighborhood is a pleasant mix of upscale condos, standalone homes, and boutique shops where I discovered a Michelline star sushi restaurant, and a pretty good medium priced steak house.
2) The hotel is located 4 blocks from Ibirapuera Park.
3) The hotel's central location is halfway between the Molema clincias and Scandallo which IMO is a good transportation compromise if you like both venues like I do.
4) Bomboa is 2 blocks away. Bomboa is my 2nd favorite boate in SP.
5) There is an ATM machine in the hotel lobby!
The only downside of this hotel is no hotel room service at night so my girls and I must either order delivery or go out for dinner. This is not a big deal, but sometimes we want to just relax, stream a little TV, and order room service in between boom boom.
Another big hotel plus is every room has a balcony, a refrigerator / freezer, and a dishwasher making the apartment very entertainment friendly. Unfortunately, the rooms do not have a stand-alone shower with a separate jacuzzi tub like all my favorite 5-star hotels feature. Oh well, you can't have everything at this price point.
I wish you could use Facebook to meet girls in Brazil. I've never heard of anyone successfully meeting a random girl off facebook for P2 P in Brazil. There is no place in the world quite like Medellin with its facebook P2 P culture. Even in other cities in Colombia, the "Facebook scene" is non existent. For Brazil, MP has more girls, there are scams everywhere, got to be careful, doesn't matter the platform.
Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.
Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.
I see a lot of girls with 'green' active button on the MeuPatrocinio, so am guessing they are active on it or logged in recently. I don't mind paying the fees to join, but don't want to run into scams there. Any feedback on that platform?
Or would you recommend any other path to go about lining up girls online? Facebook? Something else?
Steve 9696
07-22-25, 21:48
Currently considering Marriott Executive Apartments for an upcoming stay among others. Why do you say the location is so great. From a quick glance, it seems to be close to nothing of mongering interest. Please correct me.There is really no such thing as close to girl venues unless you only like a specific venue like clinicas. Then stay in Moema. But scandallo casarao and the clinicas form like an equilateral triangle 20 minutes apart. My choice is Transamerica Executive Paulista as kinda in the center of that. And a great location. Only downside is no pool. Otherwise a great choice.
Although Marriott Exec is 4 minute walk from Bomboa so that wouldnt suck.
ThisOneFs1
07-23-25, 06:10
Visited SP again around June 2nd week.
Had great 2 visits to Yankin and Miruna. Ended up tipping 50 extra to all 4 girls as I really enjoyed the BBBJ and GFE. All were in 25 to 32 age range and 5-7 range only in my opinion.
Was disappointed in Tangara as the English speaking lady was not there and the line up girls show up randomly and go to regulars. The girl I took had bad attitude.
4 visits to Casarao and all great experiences but 2 didn't budge BBBJ. All were in 300-400 range for 30 minutes. There were many hotties but I went with the ones who did eye contact.
Sorry I don't remember the names of any of them now as I am not native.
Hallo everyone, I am planning my travel to SP in / around 20th August. Prior booking I have one query.
As I have read in earlier post that Prices of girls go very high during NFL and F1. I believe NFL will start 5th Sept and F1 will be scheduled later in November. Any update on Hotel prices during that period? Is it advisable to travel during August for mongering considering NFL will be held next month September? Will wait for your valuable inputs. Thanks.
Hallo everyone, I am planning my travel to SP in / around 20th August. Prior booking I have one query.
As I have read in earlier post that Prices of girls go very high during NFL and F1. I believe NFL will start 5th Sept and F1 will be scheduled later in November. Any update on Hotel prices during that period? Is it advisable to travel during August for mongering considering NFL will be held next month September? Will wait for your valuable inputs. Thanks.Don't know about hotels prices during the NFL and F1 week. I stay in an Airbnb apartment. Last year the Philly brothers showed up in force in SCANDALLO and the garotas were double or triple in force. The Philly weekend ballers were paying garotas 3 mil and 4 mil a session. Scandallo opened on Sunday to accommodate the big spending weekend ballers. Super Hot fantasy garotas from all across Brasil came to Scandallos to make coin, and a chance to meet some NFL ballers or the Philly fans. It was cool to see the game on the big screen, from upstairs near the DJ booth. Puzzling, don't know why a bunch of sistas showed up Scandallo?? All they did was give bros dirty looks as everyone ignored them. Kkk Security eventually moved they ass to a less visible spot, outside in the patio. On the sofa. ,kkkk. A few garotas I know asked to translate the meaning of some Philly hood phrases. Hey sweetie Scandallo is boomin, ya feel me. Hey dawg, I going to slide with her upstairs. Aight I ma get with you later, princess.
Weekend Ballers were paying top dollar last year. So I expect the same this year.
Weekend Ballers were paying top dollar last year. So I expect the same this year.I was in Chanel / Friends 57 in Moema the night after the game helping translate for a guy. I told him that she wanted 300 (as I recall) and he started taking out USD LOL.
RahulMangla2009
07-24-25, 20:37
Hey guys. I am nearly finalized for my first trip to Sao Paulo next week. Will be there for about a week. I am a bit of a high baller when it comes to experience when on vacation (sorry don't give me sh*t for that). I prefer to stay in high end hotels in other cities (Dubai / Medellin / Bangkok etc.) and bring the girls back for an overnight. I have a strong preference for suites, so that I can get some space to stay there comfortably for 8-10 days, have a sofa area to hang out with the girls before heading to bedroom.
I am looking at some of the 5 star hotels in SP for next week and following week, but it is looking insanely high prices. Even normal King bed rooms will be like 400 + USD per night, and suite will be like 600 USD per night, which will be north of $4500 for my 8-10 day stay. Haha. That's a lot! And I feel likeI might give the Love motels a try as well (they look really nice and fancy to stay overnight with the girls). So, I am in a bit of a weird situation now.
I can get a presidential suite at Grand Hyatt through my points (Not that expensive with the points it seems), OR pay for Marriott executive apartments OR stay at the Presidential suite at Bourbon / Wyndham in Ibirapuera.
I am liking the Grand Hyatt the most based on online pictures of the Presidential suite. But, it seems TOO FAR from scandallo (the place where I can see myself spending most time in the evenings). Is the traffic too bad in evening time? My directional plan is to have 1-2 sessions in Scandallo itself (seems like they have attached hotel -- how good is it? And then pick a girl for overnight around midnight and bring back to Hyatt. But, worry that it is too far from the action and might end up spending an hour in traffic!
Marriott seems like a decent compromise, though not luxurious at all. Its just decently fine.
Wyndham Ibirapuera seems good as well. Especially their Presidential suite, but worried about some of the complaints here on the airplane noise level / construction noise. Though they advertise the suites as "Soundproofed". Any experience in those suites?
Lush love motel seems to have an amazing room with a Pool in it! So, might give that a try. Any others you would recommend? I. e. Which is super luxurious in feeling and closer to Scandallo?
RahulMangla2009
07-24-25, 22:12
Hey guys. Really have an itch to try nuru massage style (body to body with oily / nuru gel). Is that a thing in SP clinicas? I saw it listed as an option on few clinicas (e. G. , Indra spa). Any recos?
I am liking the Grand Hyatt the most based on online pictures of the Presidential suite. But, it seems TOO FAR from scandallo (the place where I can see myself spending most time in the evenings). Is the traffic too bad in evening time? My directional plan is to have 1-2 sessions in Scandallo itself (seems like they have attached hotel -- how good is it? And then pick a girl for overnight around midnight and bring back to Hyatt. But, worry that it is too far from the action and might end up spending an hour in traffic!
It is NOT that far away. Probably, you care about Scandallo - Hotel trip. Around midnight it will take 30-40 minutes, half of them spend on the small hillside streets around Scandallo.
Hotel inside is OK. Clean, but very simple. With very slippery floor. I am always afraid to fall once.
I can get a presidential suite at Grand Hyatt through my points (Not that expensive with the points it seems), OR pay for Marriott executive apartments OR stay at the Presidential suite at Bourbon / Wyndham in Ibirapuera.
I am liking the Grand Hyatt the most based on online pictures of the Presidential suite. But, it seems TOO FAR from scandallo (the place where I can see myself spending most time in the evenings). Is the traffic too bad in evening time? My directional plan is to have 1-2 sessions in Scandallo itself (seems like they have attached hotel -- how good is it? And then pick a girl for overnight around midnight and bring back to Hyatt. But, worry that it is too far from the action and might end up spending an hour in traffic!
?We stayed at the Grand Hyatt on our last trip and here are my thoughts on it:
1) it is far from Scandello but nothing crazy. If you want to get there by 7 pm for cheaper entry, you need to leave no later than 545 pm and choose the TAXI option on your uber app. Taxis are allowed to use the omnibus lane to fly thru traffic and Ubers are not allowed to.
2) On the way back home, it is about 30-40 minutes since there is zero traffic and the drivers drive pretty fast.
3) the room is awesome and it does create a feeling with the girls to try to charge you more so be careful especially since you don't speak Portuguese.
4) the area around the hotel is boring. It isn't really walkable and it doesn't have any restaurants or shops. I prefer to stay at the Renaissance which has a great neighborhood to walk to restaurants and shops.
Can't say anything about the other hotels.
Hey guys. I am nearly finalized for my first trip to Sao Paulo next week. Will be there for about a week. I am a bit of a high baller when it comes to experience when on vacation ....Two things:
1) Encourage you to look at SocratesNY's reports. He has written a lot on hotels, as well as there's a 'Hotel's in Brazil' thread.
2) PLEASE do a report write up. There are WAYYYYY to many guys who have 200-300 posts and all they ever do is ask questions. They don't give back to the community. Don't be that guy.
Degenerate24
07-26-25, 03:10
We stayed at the Grand Hyatt on our last trip and here are my thoughts on it:
1) it is far from Scandello but nothing crazy. If you want to get there by 7 pm for cheaper entry, you need to leave no later than 545 pm and choose the TAXI option on your uber app. Taxis are allowed to use the omnibus lane to fly thru traffic and Ubers are not allowed to.
2) On the way back home, it is about 30-40 minutes since there is zero traffic and the drivers drive pretty fast.
3) the room is awesome and it does create a feeling with the girls to try to charge you more so be careful especially since you don't speak Portuguese.
4) the area around the hotel is boring. It isn't really walkable and it doesn't have any restaurants or shops. I prefer to stay at the Renaissance which has a great neighborhood to walk to restaurants and shops.
Can't say anything about the other hotels.Point 3 is spot on, been there and done that LOL. They will ask for tips almost always.
I searched all possible threads and I couldn't find any information on that. Does anyone has info on girl-friendliness of any of them? I'm looking at one called Hotel Augusta Boulevard. I might've stayed there 15-20 years ago but am not sure. I'm open to any of them but they got to be close to Casaro's side of Avenida Paulista. I'd appreciate whatever info anyone has on any of them. PM, if you feel more comfortable.
Thanks in advance.
DreamCarnarvon
07-26-25, 12:55
Visited SP again around June 2nd week.
Had great 2 visits to Yankin and Miruna. Ended up tipping 50 extra to all 4 girls as I really enjoyed the BBBJ and GFE. All were in 25 to 32 age range and 5-7 range only in my opinion.Brazil is not America or Europe, you don't need to tip the girls anything for their great 'services', that's what they are supposed to do. I can't and am not trying to tell anyone how to spend their money. But my RECOMMENDATION is not to tip. The only time you should offer a tip is if you want some special services, such as anal sex, CIM and swallow, etc. Thank god, it seems this tipping thing doesn't occur very often as so far no girl has asked me for any tips after the session.
OkSwimmer5517
07-27-25, 22:05
https://www.reddit.com/r/FkkSaunaClubs/s/CoVDTbrziE
Steve 9696
07-28-25, 10:49
https://www.reddit.com/r/FkkSaunaClubs/s/CoVDTbrziEHad to make an account to read it but only took a second with my burner phone number. This is definitely the most comprehensive account of Scandallo compared to FKK to date. Well written, including brief summaries of the girl encounters. Really complete overview. Great job and thanks.
Interesting comparison.
Let me add my grain of salt as I'm just back from three visits to FKK Oase: FKKs are in free fall. The trend is down, down. This is different from Scandallo from what I've read, with both line-up and service are as good as ever.
I'm done with FKKs. In that sense I've changed my tune, for until not so long ago I was still advocating FKKs as on a par with Scandallo/Brazil.
RamDavidson84
07-28-25, 14:52
Had to make an account to read it but only took a second with my burner phone number. This is definitely the most comprehensive account of Scandallo compared to FKK to date. Well written, including brief summaries of the girl encounters. Really complete overview. Great job and thanks.Just arrived to Sao Paulo. If you want to do multiple hours with a girl at Scandallo, say 2 or 3, is there a discount they offer or at that point I guess they expect you to just take her out for the night? If you do take her out for the night, are there short time hotels close by? I am not a fan of girls sleeping in my bed.
Also, I hear Scandallo is best during the week and falls off on the weekend, I am a weekend warrior type of guy, I'll still save my Scandallo nights for Wed or Thurs. What are the best boates for Friday and Saturday?
Besides the legendary boates, termas, and clinicas of Sao Paulo, is there anything else to do in the city in terms of partying and mongering?
OkSwimmer5517
07-28-25, 16:32
Thanks to this forum, I was able to successfully plan and execute my first trip to Brazil.
Scandallo was amazing, beautiful women, huge LU 150+ girls, top of the line club. I loved the live music and bands, really good premium addition.
I stayed at Transamerica Executive Paulista Ave, the hotel location was very convenient, there is a mall opposite with McD, KFC, Subway, Starbucks, Pizza which took care of my food needs. Bradesco Bank down the street with in-lobby ATM for cash needs. I only drank bottled water that I bought from souvenir stores / stalls nearby. There is another shopping centre close by with TIM store in case someone needs a SIM. I got international roaming and Google Fi on my burner and all worked fine.
Girls
In Scandallo, I roomed with 7 girls in 3 days.
Room 1 - Flavia.
I was sitting at the restaurant after ordering, waiting for my food to come and plenty of girls were eyeing me, checking me out, My eyes locked with a tall white girl, she walked past me and I signaled her to come over and sit with me, she said no English, I'm like doesn't matter. We google translated, she was Brazilian with a Polish parents, 25 yo, she was wearing a really low cut top that extended up to her stomach. One tattoo flower rose on her left part of the chest and shoulder. Pretty face kinda looked like Samara weaving, very pretty face, 180 cm tall. Black eyes, black hair, white skin, very slim, A cup boobs. She told me she worked in sales before. I was eating my food while she held my hand, kissing and caressing me. I bought her of couple drinks. Stared into each other's eyes flirted back and forth and kissed. I didn't even negotiate the service, just asked to room with her.
Off to the reception, she asked me to wait, while she got her bag, I thought it'll be like a small purse like FKK girls instead she brings out a huge duffle bag like we're going on a trip LOL. We climb the stairs to the hotel reception, get the key card, go in the room. We shared a shower, then fucked, amazing service, I finished inside the condom and we both showered again, got dressed. Paid her 1200 and back to return the hotel keys and paid there 340. Damage 1540460.
We exchanged phone numbers in case I'd like to call her to my hotel.
Room 2 - Victoria.
I was walking in the gardens and I bumped into this young bubbly girl showing some cleavage, she spoke English. I just said let's go in the room, off we went, same process. I thought I won't be able to get hard again because I just blew a huge load. But this girl knew what to do. She started with amazing DFK and softly held my dick. I started getting hard and she gently held my dick just enough pressure for an erection. She didn't shy from DFK very consistent and didn't pull away until I was rock hard. Expert level shit, she knew what she was doing. 2 minutes I was rock hard and inside her.
Fucked again, filled the condom again, showered, paid, exited. 1540460.
Not a room but Party. Geysa.
I was completely drained, got a table in the night club area, got a drink. A chubby Brazilian girl comes up to me, she spoke great English. She sat, I bought her a couple drinks, we talked for an hour, danced and partied together, the live band was playing ACDC you shook me all night long and we both were dancing and singing, even did lip kissing. She showed me a few moves of Brazilian Samba and told me about famous customers of the club like football players of Real Madrid. The passion for Brazilians to have sex. Married men in a sexless marriage that come to the club seeking company of prostitutes, yup men are still the same half way across the world LOL 😂. Taboo of the society against working girls and jealous wives who blame.
She tells me there were 600 girls and 2000 men who visit the club in and out throughout the opening hours of the club per day, I think she was exaggerating a bit but who knows. Many girls don't make any money for the whole day. Some girls make a fortune. All the same like FKKs.
She stayed for a long time with me and also came back whenever we bumped into each other. I paid for 300 BRLs tip even though I didn't room with her, she expected nothing though she was so nice, we exchanged numbers for next time. Damage 300460.
Room 3 - Julia.
Blonde girl, the cup natural tits, pretty face, little chubby. She used to work at another club cafe photo and came to Scandallo a week ago. Talked for a bit, took her to the room. Great service 1200460.
Room 4 - Bad room.
This girl had blue eyes, brunette hair, white skin, natural tits the cup she's from Curitiba, slavic Russian look. Bought her a drink, negotiated a room. In the room, she wasted sometime showering before, after a little bit of fucking, she starts complaining, it's paining etc, switched to BJ but she only did CBJ huge turn off. Then after 30 minutes she said time is finished because need to shower. I was furious and quickly put on my clothes and rushed to the reception with the keys and complained that she did only half time. They called the manager and an english translator. I explained the situation, the girl walks out nearly after 20 minutes. The end result is that I pay half price 600 + room rent 340. Her behavior looked like she's taking advantage of non-porto speaking innocent tourist, good thing she met me and learned her lesson.
Pro Tip : Don't be afraid to escalate to the managers, they're on your side.
Later on, I started talking to another girl and 2 different girls walk to her and explain something in Portuguese. They said I paid less for the room and she should avoid me. But she didn't care, 2 different sides of the story.
Room 5 - Duda.
This blonde girl. Duda, Latin looks, I saw her kissing another man yesterday. Two girls come up to me at the bar and I choose the blonde girl Eduarda or Duda for short. She sits with me, has a drink and out of nowhere she sticks her tongue down my throat and I love it, full blown DFK. She knew what she was doing, kissing to get me hard. Off to the room, she was great, passionate, awesome, great fuck. 1200460.
Room 6 - Deisi.
This cute redhead was busy yesterday but was available today, so when I saw her I grabbed her. Her friend spoke English but Deizi only spoke Portuguese. Google translate, bought her a drink, little bit of chit chat and off to the room. She was so young, pretty, natural looking. Great service. 1500460.
Room 7 - Natalia.
Blue eyes, blue earrings to match, big natural tits with tan lines, white skin, slavic Russian looking, 24 yo. We sat together at the nightclub listening to the live band and singing along, she was holding my hand and it was awesome. I didn't think I had the energy to room after two 1 H sessions but I had to have her. In the room, great service, did everything, her ass was round and bubble butt. Awesome sex. 1500460.
Scandallo Pricing
340/H room rent
1200/H for the girls
400 cover entry fee before 7pm all applied towards consumption
I also did go to Casarao, the cover fee was maybe 60 Idk, it's just a big hall with crowd, quality of the girls is low. Found a girl with big natural tits and had to go with her and took her to the adjacent love hotel. The rooms are quite run down, I guess it's the type of place where you bring girl back to your hotel. The girl was passionate and amazing, tried every bit to get me hard but I was fucked out on the last day after doing three 1 H rooms at Scandallo, just laid and slept on her tits. 400430.
Honestly, I feel if someone's hopping on a long-haul flight to Brazil, they have the coin and aren't interested in Casarao type of places.
My personal style is to go room after room at Scandallo instead of bringing back the girl to my hotel because given there are 150+ girls waiting to be fucked in Scandallo, why would I waste time with just 1 girl?
Civilian Stuff
Terraco Italia, I went to this rooftop restaurant, the views over Sao Paulo skyline are amazing. The 3-course meal for 168 was amazing. I'd recommend this between the sessions
MASP. Good impressionist paintings by Monet, small museum but definitely good to kill a few hours
SESC Paulista Ave. This is another high rise building to get views. Honestly wasn't that great.
Can you guys recommend more Civilian stuff to do in the mornings?
Logistics
https://scandallolounge.com.br/
Best times to visit, Tues - Thurs after 9pm. Peaks at midnight. Special events with guest DJs.
Fly into GRU. Uber black for transportation everywhere.
Use ATMs inside banks like Bradesco, other ATMs might have skimmers causing fraud, Scandallo has no ATMs and has credit card surcharge.
Getting Brazilian phone number sim card requires CPF, prefer to use international roaming on your domestic sim for short trips.
Most hotels are girlfriendly but do verify before booking. I stayed at Paulista Avenue which is the touristic hotspot. Plenty of things to shop, eat, dine around.
Carry a 3-prong Brazilian travel adapter, although European plugs do work fine.
The tap water is not safe to drink in Brazil. Bottled water all the way.
Brazil is not that dangerous, use common sense and you'll be fine. Don't walk around in dark alleys at night and don't get pickpocketed during the day as a jetlagged tourist.
Carry a burner phone with working sim just in case iPhone gets stolen by the bikers.
Learn a few phrases of Portuguese, it'll go a long way in Brazil both in Civilian time and non-Civilian time.
OkSwimmer5517
07-28-25, 16:41
Interesting comparison.
FKKs are in free fall. The trend is down, down. This is different from Scandallo from what I've read, with both line-up and service are as good as ever.
I'm done with FKKs. In that sense I've changed my tune, for until not so long ago I was still advocating FKKs as on a par with Scandallo/Brazil.I don't blame you man, Scandallo is really very nice.
But if you've never been, you need to go to FKK Sharks. Their LU is huge 150+ beautiful women naked, amenities are amazing, hot tub, sauna, professional massage, swimming pool, food. If you find the right girls, you'll be in heaven.
BTW I love Oase swimming pool and the outdoor area is amazing too, the girls are a bit of a problem.
FKK Globe has great service but the LU is small, girls are ugly bimbos and the pretty girls often reject you based on their mood. Plus their reservation system, effectively hides the popular girls from LU, functioning like an escort agency.
FKK Wellcum has a nice modern club and amenities but the girls are childish and shit in behavior. Though it's location amongst the mountains make for a good resort style vacation.
Just arrived to Sao Paulo. If you want to do multiple hours with a girl at Scandallo, say 2 or 3, is there a discount they offer or at that point I guess they expect you to just take her out for the night? If you do take her out for the night, are there short time hotels close by? I am not a fan of girls sleeping in my bed.
Also, I hear Scandallo is best during the week and falls off on the weekend, I am a weekend warrior type of guy, I'll still save my Scandallo nights for Wed or Thurs. What are the best boates for Friday and Saturday?
Besides the legendary boates, termas, and clinicas of Sao Paulo, is there anything else to do in the city in terms of partying and mongering?There is a lot of detail in the forum on this. I suggest posts by Annagie and / or SocratesNY as well as links to posts of distinction.
at that point I guess they expect you to just take her out for the night? If you do take her out for the night, are there short time hotels close by?You can google it. Or ask the girl to take you and let her do the talking. The taxi waiting outside the boate can also take you. Tochka has written detail reports on love motel. You can look up his posts.
If you enjoy food or drinks, there are plenty restaurants and bars you can go. Republica is similar to Lapa. You will see many locals partying there.
Just arrived to Sao Paulo. If you want to do multiple hours with a girl at Scandallo, say 2 or 3, is there a discount they offer or at that point I guess they expect you to just take her out for the night? If you do take her out for the night, are there short time hotels close by? I am not a fan of girls sleeping in my bed.
Also, I hear Scandallo is best during the week and falls off on the weekend, I am a weekend warrior type of guy, I'll still save my Scandallo nights for Wed or Thurs. What are the best boates for Friday and Saturday?
Besides the legendary boates, termas, and clinicas of Sao Paulo, is there anything else to do in the city in terms of partying and mongering?There are many places to party hearty in sao paulo. Use instagram, type in sao paulo or sao paulo boate. See a list of hundreds of scantily dressed instagram models, sexy garotas and dozens of "influencers" trying to get you and your $$ in their clubs. They always post top 10 places for in sao paulo for dinner, hot clubs, music hiphop, trap, old school, sambo, karoke, concert, dirty dancing or swingy clubs such as hotbar, innerclub, engima, top 10 love motels whatever floats your boat. My go to spot for the exotic experiences Love Cabaret. Tokyo Bar for private karaoke with garotas. Vitrinni Lounge. , 57 friends chanes for afterwork hangout bar for the moema clinicas garotas. Note these are civilians places. You can find dozens of straight up garotas pickup boates for whoring on gpguia. Search Casas Noturnas. Boates - SP boates.
RamDavidson84
07-31-25, 10:31
There are many places to party hearty in sao paulo. Use instagram, type in sao paulo or sao paulo boate. See a list of hundreds of scantily dressed instagram models, sexy garotas and dozens of "influencers" trying to get you and your $$ in their clubs. They always post top 10 places for in sao paulo for dinner, hot clubs, music hiphop, trap, old school, sambo, karoke, concert, dirty dancing or swingy clubs such as hotbar, innerclub, engima, top 10 love motels whatever floats your boat. My go to spot for the exotic experiences Love Cabaret. Tokyo Bar for private karaoke with garotas. Vitrinni Lounge. , 57 friends chanes for afterwork hangout bar for the moema clinicas garotas. Note these are civilians places. You can find dozens of straight up garotas pickup boates for whoring on gpguia. Search Casas Noturnas. Boates - SP boates.Thanks for all the replies. Sao Paulo may be most secure city on earth. Gated entry communities everywhere, kind of feels like Miami in that sense. Expensive but high quality so far. Steak houses no joke. Will report back with much data on my findings in a few days. I feel like a kid on Christmas eve waiting to enter Scandallo later in the week kkkk. Hit a few of the smaller boates up and they are fancy and impressive, but pricey. In terms of the people, its spot on with the North East USA attitude, very different from the friendliness in Rio.
Based on friends recommendation, saw Nadia at Prime on a Sunday afternoon right after landing from week in Rio. Great body and service. Nice BJ followed by sex with her on top. Pleasant attitude. Had massage before round two which was also great. Left happy and ready to enjoy the SP part of my trip.
After nice afternoon session at Miruna where I had two pops over an hour, I noticed a Garoua at 57 Friends I had my eye on. Arrived around 5 pm to see Tokio but was still a bit spent from time at Miruna. She was great but I think we both sensed a round two was going to be a lot of work and just relaxed. I plan to head back to see her when less exhausted. Cool place and nice to hang out with friends in the evening. Drink prices reasonable.
Okswimmer
Scandallo lived up to it's hype
Thanks to this forum, I was able to successfully plan and execute my first trip to Brazil.
Scandallo was amazing, beautiful women, huge LU 150+ girls, top of the line club. I loved the live music and bands, really good premium addition.
Great read, like a penthouse forum, tempting me to look for a flight back as I haven't been since 2019, but living in Medellin aint so bad either, but I do need to find time to get back to Brazil for some fun and variety.
OkSwimmer5517
07-31-25, 17:21
living in Medellin aint so bad eitherThanks for reading. I want to try Medellin but I don't know how to get started. Can you provide a mini-guide for beginner friendly places in Medellin? Since it's my first time I want to go to straight forward places (e. G. Scandallo in Brazil very straight forward or FKK Sharks in Germany) which are good, clean, pretty girls, good service, less scams, danger etc. Money is not an issue.
I don't know if they have clubs like that in Colombia. And whatever research I did on ISG Colombia forum pointed to searching for girls on FB and then building a network. It's not straight forward because it seems sketchy and scammy. I don't know who's going to show up, if the girl is like her pics or not? Will she scopolamine me and steal everything? I'm a newbie but how do advanced mongers do their due diligence?
If you can give small concise write-up with logistics tips similar to what I did for Brazil it'll save sometime for research or link me to a guide if it exists.
Interesting comparison.
Let me add my grain of salt as I'm just back from three visits to FKK Oase: FKKs are in free fall. The trend is down, down. This is different from Scandallo from what I've read, with both line-up and service are as good as ever.
I'm done with FKKs. In that sense I've changed my tune, for until not so long ago I was still advocating FKKs as on a par with Scandallo/Brazil.Germany is going down, that's unfortunately true. After Covid the Club scene never recovered. Plus the political environment (left-green-feminist) is very much antagonistic. However, Switzerland and Austria (Wellcum) are still top notch. In fact, 1200 BRL in Scandallo is more expensive than clubs in in the Confoederatio Helvetica aka Switzerland.
Hard to believe but true. Added benefit: few places are safer than CH. You can walk about at night with your Omega watch and Ultra phone (or whatever) and won't get mugged.
Based on friends recommendation, saw Nadia at Prime on a Sunday afternoon right after landing from week in Rio. Great body and service. Nice BJ followed by sex with her on top. Pleasant attitude. Had massage before round two which was also great. Left happy and ready to enjoy the SP part of my trip.Nadia and Karen are well-reviewed on GPGuia. Nadia has another level with friendly repeat clients. With Nadia, if you ask, she can break out the strong ass "marola", plus let her choose her garota of choice (GoC) for a threesome.
Damn, she takes it to the next level. Bring her a small bottle of her favorite drink from Bar Salvador on the corner. She turns into a wild ass sexual tigress, unihabituated, everything goes, no limits, she has a next fvcking level that clicks in. Sheets. Don't know why Patty doesn't have bar drinks in there (shrug). Plus get the four hands "forista" discount with a confirmed review.
According to latest reports, A. I. Girls are taking their market share from the adult industry, competing directly with real models.
So, in the upcoming years, the talent that was considering OnlyF or other platforms to make good money, will have to go in the search for real live experiences. You know what I mean!
Save your bullets gents. Save them, I'm 25 years in the content creation market. Why do I post it here in the SP forum? Because there are thousands of cuties on privacy. Com. Br that will be hit by this A. I wave.
Attached a good example. That blonde is an A. I. , it took me a few minutes to confirm.
Axel Heyst
08-02-25, 12:22
According to latest reports, A. I. Girls are taking their market share from the adult industry, competing directly with real models.
<snip> Attached a good example. That blonde is an A. I. , it took me a few minutes to confirm.I am just curious. HiddenEye, how did you know this girl is AI?
https://g1.globo.com/sp/bauru-marilia/noticia/2025/08/02/de-janio-quadros-a-vinicius-de-moraes-os-famosos-que-passaram-pela-mansao-de-eny-cezarino-o-maior-bordel-do-brasil.ghtml
Interesting story about Eny's casa (blast from the past).
Hi Axel, thanks for your reply. It's important in a much deeper way than we may think.
Look at how hard is to identify an a. I. Having passed only three years this technology is public available. (it was under development around 2018, the first library of a. I. Faces).
First and the more obvious, this leximorgan has a link on bouncy. Ai.
And the not so obvious. The face of this creature gives 242 similar faces on pimeyes, resembling many different "women". It's not 242 pics of the same person, it's all the way around.
So, I must say, 99% sure, this is an a. I.
Why your answer is so important?
Among the ones who will have a ground on real earth is us. The mongers.
That's something, real something for a while.
A revolution is underway, and I guess it will give us a lot of fun. Keep tuned.
I am just curious. HiddenEye, how did you know this girl is AI?
I've been to Rio & SP one time, but it was during the last couple weeks of December. It turned out to be a bad timing for mongering because many didn't work during the holiday. As I've been planning for my next trip there, I have few questions for the SP experts here.
1) What are the best months to see the most women showing up for work at the night clubs? I want to see 150 -200 girls at Scandallo that many posters here have talked highly about. Is early September close to that level? (My personal experience tells me that the last two weeks of December and up to mid-January are probably the worst time to go there just for mongering. There were only 30+ women working at Scandallo. WTF!
2) I've been interested in the TRYP by Wyndham hotel in the Paraiso area because it seems more logistically center if I take into consideration of club Cafe Photos, Connection, Gauguin in addition to the popular ones like Scandallo, Bomboa, and Casaro. Paraiso appears to be a good area to walk around for shopping and dining because it's close to Paulista Ave. Right? Is TRYP a friendly hotel to bring in (or just sneak in) someone without being noticed or questioned?
3) Say you have a flight back home at 5:30 AM morning. You probably forego a hotel the last night and stay at a club until, say, 3:00 AM and go straight to the airport. The problem is that you can only leave your luggage at the hotel storage UP TO midnight, and they won't let you keep them there past midnight. Where would you recommend storing the luggage? Do all clubs let their customers store their luggage there? Which clubs allow that? Do they keep them in a safe and locked room or kind of in an open area under the counter? What would you do or suggest?
1) Quicker to say when to avoid going there: from mid Dec to mid Jan, the 10th days in between Carnival, all months of July-Aug because is their winter and generally WG's go to the north for a better climate or travel to Europe.
2) Tryp is supposed to be guest-friendly but never been there. I recommend Hotel Cadoro, should be on the same tier price, for sure guest-friendly as many girls came to visit me LOL.
3) I did experienced to leave trolley and back-pack at Scandallo (inside just on the left of reception for check in / out) for 20 reais, at Connection for free (outside at the guy for parking), at Gauguin on first floor where you get the key for the room (not on ground floor where you enter for check in).
Appreciated to get a review after your trip.
I've been to Rio & SP one time, but it was during the last couple weeks of December. It turned out to be a bad timing for mongering because many didn't work during the holiday. As I've been planning for my next trip there, I have few questions for the SP experts here.
1) What are the best months to see the most women showing up for work at the night clubs? I want to see 150 -200 girls at Scandallo that many posters here have talked highly about. Is early September close to that level? (My personal experience tells me that the last two weeks of December and up to mid-January are probably the worst time to go there just for mongering. There were only 30+ women working at Scandallo. WTF!
I've been to Rio & SP one time, but it was during the last couple weeks of December. It turned out to be a bad timing for mongering because many didn't work during the holiday. As I've been planning for my next trip there, I have few questions for the SP experts here.
1) What are the best months to see the most women showing up for work at the night clubs? I want to see 150 -200 girls at Scandallo that many posters here have talked highly about. Is early September close to that level? (My personal experience tells me that the last two weeks of December and up to mid-January are probably the worst time to go there just for mongering. There were only 30+ women working at Scandallo. WTF!
2) I've been interested in the TRYP by Wyndham hotel in the Paraiso area because it seems more logistically center if I take into consideration of club Cafe Photos, Connection, Gauguin in addition to the popular ones like Scandallo, Bomboa, and Casaro. Paraiso appears to be a good area to walk around for shopping and dining because it's close to Paulista Ave. Right? Is TRYP a friendly hotel to bring in (or just sneak in) someone without being noticed or questioned?
3) Say you have a flight back home at 5:30 AM morning. You probably forego a hotel the last night and stay at a club until, say, 3:00 AM and go straight to the airport. The problem is that you can only leave your luggage at the hotel storage UP TO midnight, and they won't let you keep them there past midnight. Where would you recommend storing the luggage? Do all clubs let their customers store their luggage there? Which clubs allow that? Do they keep them in a safe and locked room or kind of in an open area under the counter? What would you do or suggest?1) Keep in mind that Sept 5th weekend will be the NFL game and there will be a ton of girls all over SP but prices will be super high. Scandello will probably have 500+ girls every night during that weekend.
2) Can't comment.
3) You can keep your luggage with the bag check in Scandello and just leave to the airport from there at 230/3 am. I do it all the time for late night flights and it is super safe.
Do report back and write about your experience.
Has anyone stayed at the Melia Paulista? I've stayed in the area before but wondering if anyone has tried this hotel before and knows if it is guest friendly?
Nadia and Karen are well-reviewed on GPGuia. Nadia has another level with friendly repeat clients. With Nadia, if you ask, she can break out the strong ass "marola", plus let her choose her garota of choice (GoC) for a threesome.
Really can't go wrong with these two. The best threesomes I had were with Nadia and Valentina (branca / retired). And and V look like twin sisters. I also had threesomes with Karen and a different Valentina (preta / active elsewhere).
Story time:
One decade ago, a stunning woman in her late 20's was working at the "scandalous" nightclub near that historic park. She later got married and took a job as a receptionist at a clinica often discussed on this forum.
Fast forward to today, two kids later, She just shared with me that she's left her husband and is ready to get back in the game. She quoted me very reasonable prices, which has me seriously tempted.
For those who've been around long enough, has she made similar offers to you? Just curious. Am I her special man or is she whoring around already? Haha.
Story time:
One decade ago, a stunning woman in her late 20's was working at the "scandalous" nightclub near that historic park. She later got married and took a job as a receptionist at a clinica often discussed on this forum.
Fast forward to today, two kids later, She just shared with me that she's left her husband and is ready to get back in the game. She quoted me very reasonable prices, which has me seriously tempted.
For those who've been around long enough, has she made similar offers to you? Just curious. Am I her special man or is she whoring around already? Haha.I like your style. There is a youngish, cutey former cashier from a scandalous place that I am seeing on the side. You know, drunk flirting with the second-floor cashiers is a lot of fun. Kkkkk but they cycle through the downstairs cashiers and the coat check girls pretty fast.
It's been an interesting experience checking off the bucket list of different female staff. Most are mature women on purpose.
For clinicas, many of the Moema receptionists are named in GPGUIA. Bros want the foristas discount and giving a shout out to receptionist in reviews keeps you in good standing.
ProTip: The Instagram followers of Moema receptionists has been a fvcking gold mine for after-hours fun, private DM, friendly invite only parties or to chat when garota changes Wassap number or their iPhone is stolen (again) or name changes again Rsrs.
I like your style. There is a youngish, cutey former cashier from a scandalous place that I am seeing on the side. You know, drunk flirting with the second-floor cashiers is a lot of fun. Kkkkk but they cycle through the downstairs cashiers and the coat check girls pretty fast.
It's been an interesting experience checking off the bucket list of different female staff. Most are mature women on purpose.
For clinicas, many of the Moema receptionists are named in GPGUIA. Bros want the foristas discount and giving a shout out to receptionist in reviews keeps you in good standing.
ProTip: The Instagram followers of Moema receptionists has been a fvcking gold mine for after-hours fun, private DM, friendly invite only parties or to chat when garota changes Wassap number or their iPhone is stolen (again) or name changes again Rsrs.Bro, you speak my language. I know which exactly second-floor cashier you were talking about. She is fine AF in those black leather pants. Do you know if she works on the side?
But the former scandalous MILF is working in a different barrio, M-S. She often has some shitty attitude to new gringos. She treats ME well with some occasional tips / gifts.
Also, I will send you a DM for something.
Had great session with Amanda and immediately scheduled the next one on way out! Highly recommend.
Had another couple of great threesomes at Prime this week. Great value! Schedule trisal (three girls) and really looking forward to it. Great place.
Had another couple of great threesomes at Prime this week. Great value! Schedule trisal (three girls) and really looking forward to it. Great place.Hi,
I'm visiting in October and like the sound of Prime.
Can you confirm where it's located please I'm not getting definitive on Google.
Cheers.
Bro, you speak my language. I know which exactly second-floor cashier you were talking about. She is fine AF in those black leather pants. Do you know if she works on the side?
But the former scandalous MILF is working in a different barrio, M-S. She often has some shitty attitude to new gringos. She treats ME well with some occasional tips / gifts.
Also, I will send you a DM for something.Kkk the black leather pants made me add her to the bucketlist to try out. There are two moema receptionists on my list. Hahaha one is a Exactly the same as yours kkkk for certain. Another one on a random evening during a garota happy hour threw out number for me to consider. She made a very reasonable offer, way much less than scandallo. I have been sitting on it for a month or two. Pondering. Not pulled the trigger yet. She wants to keep everything quiet and away from the garota gossip network.
Protip: if you are lucky enough to be in 57 friends chanes the evening the moemas garotas meet up for afterwork, happy hour & drinks, stripper pole dancing party and churrasco. I had no problem taking two of them upstairs for a threesome session. The other week was my third time taking clinicas garotas visting for drinks, upstairs for after after hours fun. Ymmv.
Don't know where they get the fvcking energy to bangout another session but they are liquored up with hot energy to release. In sexy clothes. Sizzle.
Kkk the black leather pants made me add her to the bucketlist to try out. There are two moema receptionists on my list. Hahaha one is a Exactly the same as yours kkkk for certain. Another one on a random evening during.I've banged Moema receptionist S last year. She returned to her hometown in the SP interior. Sent you a DM too.
Toastmonger69
08-15-25, 08:08
I got mixed feelings about Wellcum. Food was great though.
Germany is going down, that's unfortunately true. After Covid the Club scene never recovered. Plus the political environment (left-green-feminist) is very much antagonistic. However, Switzerland and Austria (Wellcum) are still top notch. In fact, 1200 BRL in Scandallo is more expensive than clubs in in the Confoederatio Helvetica aka Switzerland.
Hard to believe but true. Added benefit: few places are safer than CH. You can walk about at night with your Omega watch and Ultra phone (or whatever) and won't get mugged.
Hi,
I'm visiting in October and like the sound of Prime.
Can you confirm where it's located please I'm not getting definitive on Google.
Cheers.It's Moema Prime on google map.
Please explain what you mean by "kkk". I don't want to assume.
Kkk the black leather pants made me add her to the bucketlist to try out. There are two moema receptionists on my list. Hahaha one is a Exactly the same as yours kkkk for certain. Another one on a random evening during a garota happy hour threw out number for me to consider. She made a very reasonable offer, way much less than scandallo. I have been sitting on it for a month or two. Pondering. Not pulled the trigger yet. She wants to keep everything quiet and away from the garota gossip network.
Protip: if you are lucky enough to be in 57 friends chanes the evening the moemas garotas meet up for afterwork, happy hour & drinks, stripper pole dancing party and churrasco. I had no problem taking two of them upstairs for a threesome session. The other week was my third time taking clinicas garotas visting for drinks, upstairs for after after hours fun. Ymmv.
Don't know where they get the fvcking energy to bangout another session but they are liquored up with hot energy to release. In sexy clothes. Sizzle.
Please explain what you mean by "kkk". I don't want to assume.Type those letters in google translate. Kkk and Rsrs.
It's Moema Prime on google map.Found it, thanks.
BerserkerMN1
08-16-25, 21:59
A couple years ago I was in Sao Paulo and I got Scoped I was talking to a local made out with her next thing I know I woke up in the middle of sao Paulo with all my belongings gone. I want to go back because the P4P is unmatched. How should I go about it the next time. Should I just use the websites or is there clubs that have that service that are safe.
A couple years ago I was in Sao Paulo and I got Scoped I was talking to a local made out with her next thing I know I woke up in the middle of sao Paulo with all my belongings gone. Were you drinking something. Like a beer, or coke from a bottle etc?
If so, they put the pill in your drink whilst you were not looking.
Were you in a bar, club etc? Or did you invite her back to your place?
BerserkerMN1
08-18-25, 04:00
Were you drinking something. Like a beer, or coke from a bottle etc?
If so, they put the pill in your drink whilst you were not looking.
Were you in a bar, club etc? Or did you invite her back to your place?Yea I was it was because she grabbed a drink for me which was dumb of me. Is there establishments there where that stuff don't happen.
Yea I was it was because she grabbed a drink for me which was dumb of me. Is there establishments there where that stuff don't happen.The drugging is done by the individual, not by the establishment. Therefore, no one can tell you "Establishment XYZ is safe from drugging. ".
Please don't go to Colombia. You'll be a sitting duck there, as scopolomina drugging there is far more prevalent than in Brazil.
Stay safe.
Yea I was it was because she grabbed a drink for me which was dumb of me. Is there establishments there where that stuff don't happen.The risk is always there, be very very watchful and careful.
Axel Heyst
08-18-25, 14:34
The risk is always there, be very very watchful and careful.There is zero risk of this sort of thing happening inside a SP boate or clinica, but if you are the least bit worried about what might happen with an independent bar pickup or escort, have your girl show her ID to hotel security before going to your room. Not minimizing what the OP experienced, it must have been horrible, but the moral of the story is stay away from girls in sleazy bars and if you are drawn to such places, drink from the bottle, don't get drunk, and pay attention to what's going on.
RamDavidson84
08-18-25, 17:36
How I view Sao Paulo. Basically I think the easiest way to break Sao Paulo down is using a Three Tier System. For this I am just referring to Boates or night clubs with free lance girls.
Tier 1: Scandallo. Scandallo is best. In short, if you have the budget and you can spend 500 to 600 USD a night and not break your bank, just go to Scandallo. Girls will usually settle for $1200 Brazil. Plus the room and drinks and figure your going to spend a few hundred. Its the best boate in Brazil and the other boates in Sao Paulo are basically just as expensive. Most of the boates on these tiers are very high end and classy. Dress to impress as if you were going to a fancy night club. Don't show up in jeans, a t shirt and flip flops. This is not Pattaya or Sosua. For me personally, they are a bit too classy and I prefer a bit more raunchiness. Many of these girls will basically expect you to act mostly like a gentleman until you get to the room. Some light making out and dancing is fine to vet the girls, but do not expect them to be acting like classless working girls like in a bar in Pattaya. That is not how these places are set up. I have also had girls who did not give me full GFE when I got back to the room, so be aware that is a possibility. And for the girls who didn't give me the best session, I still always felt satisfied just due to how beautiful they were.
Tier 2: Bomboa, Bahamas, Cafe Photo, Guaghin. I may be missing one or two more. So all of these clubs and very nicely set up as well. Live music, friendly staff, and yes they are basically just as expensive as Scandallo. Girls will usually settle on $1000 Brazil and the rooms are around 350 Brazil I think. All of these places are also 400 to 500 Brazil just to get in and most of that goes toward consumption. The drinks are just as expensive as the drinks in Scandallo as well. The big difference is, these places have less girls and less customers, but the girls are still very very beautiful. Of the tier 2 boates, Bomboa is the best, but strangely also the smallest. It fills up with girls and customers so expect a crowd.
Warning: So I have a threesome at Bomboa and I am drinking extra strength redbull with them in the room, wink wink, and one of the girls robbed me of around 1500 Brazil out of my wallet when I wasn't looking. I had let my guard down because we were in a boate and I didn't expect it. So of course I go to management and basically they say there is nothing they can do to prove it because the girls are denying it and it may have been one girl and the other girl really had nothing to do with it. Anyway they tell me next time I go I ll get free drinks or what ever. Hopefully they black list those girls as well. I will not be going back to Bomboa, but I must say I still recommend the place as I had some really good nights there. Just be careful shit can still go down in these boates.
Tier 3: Zeus, 57 friends, Ceasaro. So in my opinion, Zeus is just a waste of time, the place is surprisingly expensive and the girls are not very attractive compared to the other boates. Skip Zeus. 57 friends can be a decent warm up spot and its cheaper to drink at than the boates, but the girls are really not that attractive, so for me personally I didn't like the place too much, but again cheap drinks so its a nice place to warm up. Ceasaro is a great late night spot and cheap to pick girls up. Its basically a club with free lancers and you can find some attractive girls in here. I think its only 60 or 80 Brazil to get in too. Its also a younger crowd in terms of customers. Most girls will be down leave for around 400 or 500 Brazil.
Personal Tip: If you don't speak Portuguese, save your self some money and have a few drinks before you enter the boate. Drinking all night in these places can really add up fast. Also, I can't stress this enough, just skip everything and go to Scandallo. Especially if its a short trip. The other boates are very nice and fun too, but Scandallo really is a step above them and its about the same price. If your in Sao Paulo and you want the high end, its worth it to spend a few extra bucks and just go to Scandallo.
As for the debate on Rio vs Sao Paulo. I clearly prefer Rio over Sao Paulo due to price and the great service from the girls, but Sao Paulo girls in terms of looks are top notch. I am sure some people who know the ins and out of Sao Paulo know of cheaper places with good service, but me for me Rio clearly wins.
JohnJones22
08-18-25, 20:07
I remember someone mentioning a "high end" catalogue of influencers / models in SP; there was an upfront fee (like 1000 R) just to access the catalogue, and then the girls charge like 5-10 K reais. Does anyone have more info about this please?
Warning: So I have a threesome at Bomboa and I am drinking extra strength redbull with them in the room, wink wink, and one of the girls robbed me of around 1500 Brazil out of my wallet when I wasn't looking. I had let my guard down because we were in a boate and I didn't expect it. So of course I go to management and basically they say there is nothing they can do to prove it because the girls are denying it and it may have been one girl and the other girl really had nothing to do with it. Anyway they tell me next time I go I ll get free drinks or what ever. Hopefully they black list those girls as well. I will not be going back to Bomboa, but I must say I still recommend the place as I had some really good nights there. Just be careful shit can still go down in these boates.
Tier 3: Zeus, 57 friends, Ceasaro. So in my opinion, Zeus is just a waste of time, the place is surprisingly expensive and the girls are not very attractive compared to the other boates. Skip Zeus. 57 friends can be a decent warm up spot and its cheaper to drink at than the boates, but the girls are really not that attractive, so for me personally I didn't like the place too much, but again cheap drinks so its a nice place to warm up. Ceasaro is a great late night spot and cheap to pick girls up. Its basically a club with free lancers and you can find some attractive girls in here. I think its only 60 or 80 Brazil to get in too. Its also a younger crowd in terms of customers. Most girls will be down leave for around 400 or 500 Brazil.
Personal Tip: If you don't speak Portuguese, save your self some money and have a few drinks before you enter the boate. Drinking all night in these places can really add up fast. Also, I can't stress this enough, just skip everything and go to Scandallo. Especially if its a short trip. The other boates are very nice and fun too, but Scandallo really is a step above them and its about the same price. If your in Sao Paulo and you want the high end, its worth it to spend a few extra bucks and just go to Scandallo.
As for the debate on Rio vs Sao Paulo. I clearly prefer Rio over Sao Paulo due to price and the great service from the girls, but Sao Paulo girls in terms of looks are top notch. I am sure some people who know the ins and out of Sao Paulo know of cheaper places with good service, but me for me Rio clearly wins.Great insight. I have been coming to SP regularly for last few years and your points are spot on.
Sorry to hear about girl stealing from you and guess we all have to be careful.
Love the beach vibe in Rio but think SP just offers more venues and girls in my opinon. And, I just don't feel safe in Rio.
I am in SP this week so feel free to reach out if anyone wants hang out.
Where is Ceasaro located? I tied multiple google searches. Thank you.
How I view Sao Paulo. Basically I think the easiest way to break Sao Paulo down is using a Three Tier System. For this I am just referring to Boates or night clubs with free lance girls.
Tier 1: Scandallo. Scandallo is best. In short, if you have the budget and you can spend 500 to 600 USD a night and not break your bank, just go to Scandallo. Girls will usually settle for $1200 Brazil. Plus the room and drinks and figure your going to spend a few hundred. Its the best boate in Brazil and the other boates in Sao Paulo are basically just as expensive. Most of the boates on these tiers are very high end and classy. Dress to impress as if you were going to a fancy night club. Don't show up in jeans, a t shirt and flip flops. This is not Pattaya or Sosua. For me personally, they are a bit too classy and I prefer a bit more raunchiness. Many of these girls will basically expect you to act mostly like a gentleman until you get to the room. Some light making out and dancing is fine to vet the girls, but do not expect them to be acting like classless working girls like in a bar in Pattaya. That is not how these places are set up. I have also had girls who did not give me full GFE when I got back to the room, so be aware that is a possibility. And for the girls who didn't give me the best session, I still always felt satisfied just due to how beautiful they were.
Tier 2: Bomboa, Bahamas, Cafe Photo, Guaghin. I may be missing one or two more. So all of these clubs and very nicely set up as well. Live music, friendly staff, and yes they are basically just as expensive as Scandallo. Girls will usually settle on $1000 Brazil and the rooms are around 350 Brazil I think. All of these places are also 400 to 500 Brazil just to get in and most of that goes toward consumption. The drinks are just as expensive as the drinks in Scandallo as well. The big difference is, these places have less girls and less customers, but the girls are still very very beautiful. Of the tier 2 boates, Bomboa is the best, but strangely also the smallest. It fills up with girls and customers so expect a crowd.
Warning: So I have a threesome at Bomboa and I am drinking extra strength redbull with them in the room, wink wink, and one of the girls robbed me of around 1500 Brazil out of my wallet when I wasn't looking. I had let my guard down because we were in a boate and I didn't expect it. So of course I go to management and basically they say there is nothing they can do to prove it because the girls are denying it and it may have been one girl and the other girl really had nothing to do with it. Anyway they tell me next time I go I ll get free drinks or what ever. Hopefully they black list those girls as well. I will not be going back to Bomboa, but I must say I still recommend the place as I had some really good nights there. Just be careful shit can still go down in these boates.
Tier 3: Zeus, 57 friends, Ceasaro. So in my opinion, Zeus is just a waste of time, the place is surprisingly expensive and the girls are not very attractive compared to the other boates. Skip Zeus. 57 friends can be a decent warm up spot and its cheaper to drink at than the boates, but the girls are really not that attractive, so for me personally I didn't like the place too much, but again cheap drinks so its a nice place to warm up. Ceasaro is a great late night spot and cheap to pick girls up. Its basically a club with free lancers and you can find some attractive girls in here. I think its only 60 or 80 Brazil to get in too. Its also a younger crowd in terms of customers. Most girls will be down leave for around 400 or 500 Brazil.
Personal Tip: If you don't speak Portuguese, save your self some money and have a few drinks before you enter the boate. Drinking all night in these places can really add up fast. Also, I can't stress this enough, just skip everything and go to Scandallo. Especially if its a short trip. The other boates are very nice and fun too, but Scandallo really is a step above them and its about the same price. If your in Sao Paulo and you want the high end, its worth it to spend a few extra bucks and just go to Scandallo.
As for the debate on Rio vs Sao Paulo. I clearly prefer Rio over Sao Paulo due to price and the great service from the girls, but Sao Paulo girls in terms of looks are top notch. I am sure some people who know the ins and out of Sao Paulo know of cheaper places with good service, but me for me Rio clearly wins.
RamDavidson84
08-18-25, 20:58
Great insight. I have been coming to SP regularly for last few years and your points are spot on.
Sorry to hear about girl stealing from you and guess we all have to be careful.
Love the beach vibe in Rio but think SP just offers more venues and girls in my opinon. And, I just don't feel safe in Rio.
I am in SP this week so feel free to reach out if anyone wants hang out.Your right, I should re phrase my Rio vs Sao Paulo comment. If you have the budget, Sao Paulo is better. But I think the city where you get a better bang for your buck is Rio. My budget fits Rio a little better. Had some good times at 4 x4 for a lot less than I have been paying in SP.
How I view Sao Paulo. Basically I think the easiest way to break Sao Paulo down is using a Three Tier System. For this I am just referring to Boates or night clubs with free lance girls.
Tier 1: Scandallo. Scandallo is best. In short, if you have the budget and you can spend 500 to 600 USD a night and not break your bank, just go to Scandallo. Girls will usually settle for $1200 Brazil. Plus the room and drinks and figure your going to spend a few hundred. Its the best boate in Brazil and the other boates in Sao Paulo are basically just as expensive. Most of the boates on these tiers are very high end and classy. Dress to impress as if you were going to a fancy night club. Don't show up in jeans, a t shirt and flip flops. This is not Pattaya or Sosua. For me personally, they are a bit too classy and I prefer a bit more raunchiness. Many of these girls will basically expect you to act mostly like a gentleman until you get to the room. Some light making out and dancing is fine to vet the girls, but do not expect them to be acting like classless working girls like in a bar in Pattaya. That is not how these places are set up. I have also had girls who did not give me full GFE when I got back to the room, so be aware that is a possibility. And for the girls who didn't give me the best session, I still always felt satisfied just due to how beautiful they were.
As for the debate on Rio vs Sao Paulo. I clearly prefer Rio over Sao Paulo due to price and the great service from the girls, but Sao Paulo girls in terms of looks are top notch. I am sure some people who know the ins and out of Sao Paulo know of cheaper places with good service, but me for me Rio clearly wins.Great report. Sorry to hear about the girl taking the money. I always check all my pants before leaving the room to make sure I have everything. If something is missing, I would ask the girls about it and if I couldn't find it, I would call management to the room.
I also agree that Scandello is the best and the girls in São Paulo are definitely better looking vs Rio.
Warning: So I have a threesome at Bomboa and I am drinking extra strength redbull with them in the room, wink wink, and one of the girls robbed me of around 1500 Brazil out of my wallet when I wasn't looking. I had let my guard down because we were in a boate and I didn't expect it. So of course I go to management and basically they say there is nothing they can do to prove it because the girls are denying it and it may have been one girl and the other girl really had nothing to do with it. Anyway they tell me next time I go I ll get free drinks or what ever. Hopefully they black list those girls as well. I will not be going back to Bomboa, but I must say I still recommend the place as I had some really good nights there. Just be careful shit can still go down in these boates.
Nice report, RamDavidson84.
I appreciate you letting us know about the unfortunate incident. It is a good remainder not to be complacent. I've never experienced such incidents in any P2 P places. As much as possible, I try to keep my clothes where they are visible when I am in shower / bathroom. This isn't always possible, like for example, in Clinica Prime, some rooms have hangers on a wall that aren't visible from shower. Still, I've never had anything stolen from there or any other clinicas. I guess the clinica girls are more honest than the ones you encountered. I believe the clinica management would take customer complaints more seriously than establishments like Bamboa.
Do you remember the names and description of the girls? Maybe I will setup and sting operation during my next trip to SP later this month 😀
RamDavidson84
08-19-25, 02:26
Nice report, RamDavidson84.
I appreciate you letting us know about the unfortunate incident. It is a good remainder not to be complacent. I've never experienced such incidents in any P2 P places. As much as possible, I try to keep my clothes where they are visible when I am in shower / bathroom. This isn't always possible, like for example, in Clinica Prime, some rooms have hangers on a wall that aren't visible from shower. Still, I've never had anything stolen from there or any other clinicas. I guess the clinica girls are more honest than the ones you encountered. I believe the clinica management would take customer complaints more seriously than establishments like Bamboa.
Nah, I don't know their names. Both young white girls with black hair. They came up to me and offered the redbull party. The way it went down is we did the first hour as a threesome and then the one wanted to stay an extra hour which I agreed to. At the end of that hour I went to check my wallet and that is when I noticed I was missing money. The other girl was slick, she didn't grab all the cash but took a big chunk. I hit the ATM up right before I went so I know she took it as money just doesn't disappear. Sucks, I really liked the vibe in Bomboa.
What has the world come to when you can't even have a redbull threesome in a third world bordello with out being robbed LOL? What a world we live in.
OkSwimmer5517
08-19-25, 03:18
How I view Sao Paulo. Basically I think the easiest way to break Sao Paulo down is using a Three Tier System. For this I am just referring to Boates or night clubs with free lance girls.
Tier 1: Scandallo. Scandallo is best. Some light making out and dancing is fine to vet the girls
I have also had girls who did not give me full GFE when I got back to the room, so be aware that is a possibility.
And for the girls who didn't give me the best session, I still always felt satisfied just due to how beautiful they were.
Tier 2: Bomboa, Bahamas, Cafe Photo, Guaghin.
Warning: one of the girls robbed me of around 1500 Brazil out of my wallet when I wasn't looking. I had let my guard down because we were in a boate and I didn't expect it.
Tier 3: Zeus, 57 friends, Ceasaro. So in my opinion, Zeus is just a waste of time, the place is surprisingly expensive and the girls are not very attractive compared to the other boates.
Ceasaro is a great late night spot and cheap to pick girls up. Its basically a club with free lancers and you can find some attractive girls in here
Personal Tip: Also, I can't stress this enough, just skip everything and go to Scandallo. Especially if its a short trip. If your in Sao Paulo and you want the high end, its worth it to spend a few extra bucks and just go to Scandallo.Disclaimer: I've only visited Scandallo and Casarao.
I agree with this. Scandallo is the best. I didn't even go to Rio or any other club in SP for that matter. Beautiful girls, talking, flirting. The place is very high end and the girl pricing though expensive compared to other places in the world like FKKs it's not that bad for that quality. Yes be careful with the girls in general, bad service, cheating on time, hidden extras are all part of the mongering world.
I did meet a girl who was ex-Cafe Photo in Scandallo, she was stunning so I'd imagine the tier-2 clubs as you labelled them will have some beauties if someone finds themselves running out of girls in Scandallo.
Casarao is what it is for the price, not as high end as Scandallo but you can find a few diamonds in the rough for the price. Pro tip: Do not use the hotel next to Casarao for short affair, it's rundown and disgusting. Plan to bring a girl back to your hotel.
Yeah if you're short on time just do Scandallo. Everything else is downhill from there.
Sorry for the robbery incident. I too was scared carrying all the cash in the clothes hanging on the wall, while I was in the shower. These clubs really should provide a locker system like the FKKs to store your cash. Or atleast an ATM. I was always watching the girl getting close to my clothes, but some girls understood that it made me nervous so they would let their stuff hang and only get close to the hangers after I was done dressing for my clothes and paid them.
I was also very scared walking from the bank to my hotel with the cash after withdrawal, heard some of the street thugs and iPhone snatchers are dangerous. Luckily didn't get robbed.
Where is Ceasaro located? I tied multiple google searches. Thank you.It's Casarao Augusta. Misspelled earlier.
SoberHans69
08-19-25, 07:55
Where is Ceasaro located? I tied multiple google searches. Thank you.It's on Rua Augusta, near Avenida Paulista, it's spelled Casarao.
Nah, I don't know their names. Both young white girls with black hair. They came up to me and offered the redbull party. The way it went down is we did the first hour as a threesome and then the one wanted to stay an extra hour which I agreed to. At the end of that hour I went to check my wallet and that is when I noticed I was missing money. The other girl was slick, she didn't grab all the cash but took a big chunk. I hit the ATM up right before I went so I know she took it as money just doesn't disappear. Sucks, I really liked the vibe in Bomboa.
What has the world come to when you can't even have a redbull threesome in a third world bordello with out being robbed LOL? What a world we live in.Was it just redbull or was "redbull" a code word for something more sketchy? If such was the case you were, of course, giving the girls further incentive to get up to no good. That's why I was reluctant to accept impromptu invitation to "party", never mind how hot the girl or girls, unless one at least of the participating girls was one long known and tested.
..........As for the debate on Rio vs Sao Paulo. I clearly prefer Rio over Sao Paulo due to price and the great service from the girls, but Sao Paulo girls in terms of looks are top notch. I am sure some people who know the ins and out of Sao Paulo know of cheaper places with good service, but me for me Rio clearly wins.After reading your superlative report of Scandallo I was surprised to read this. As a city in itself Rio is definitely better than SP, as a matter of fact it is one of the best, if not the best, in the world. Generally girl's service in Brazil is top notch but as my visit earlier this year reminded me the service in Rio is better than SP. As far as the looks of the ladies is concerned I give SP the edge over Rio but if you factor in the online babes Rio is close. Overall I agree that Rio is the better option over SP.
Axel Heyst
08-19-25, 13:28
Nah, I don't know their names. Both young white girls with black hair. They came up to me and offered the redbull party. The way it went down is we did the first hour as a threesome and then the one wanted to stay an extra hour which I agreed to. At the end of that hour I went to check my wallet and that is when I noticed I was missing money. The other girl was slick, she didn't grab all the cash but took a big chunk. I hit the ATM up right before I went so I know she took it as money just doesn't disappear. Sucks, I really liked the vibe in Bomboa.
What has the world come to when you can't even have a redbull threesome in a third world bordello with out being robbed LOL? What a world we live in.Great report, Ram! It's too bad about the theft. Shit happens on rare occasions. But I have one question about the incident: Why didn't you notice the theft after the 3-some ended but before the "slick" girl left the room? I mean that would be the time to reach for your wallet or wherever you keep your cash and pay her for her services, right? Or did you pay for the 3-some in advance? If the latter, that is where you made your mistake, although I want to make it perfectly clear, the onus is on the thief not you. I have been to the top 3 SP boates a hundred times or more and I have never been robbed even when I was careless about the cash in my front pocket, so I can say that 99.9 % of the girls are straight shooters, but I always pay afterwards even when I am a little short on cash and need to pay the girl's balance with a CC. I never bring more than 1200 BR to Scandallo and only a 1000 BR (max) to Bomboa, so sometimes I do spend more on the girls especially if I go for a 2nd girl. KKK! (I always put all other transactions which include the club entry fee, drinks, food, room charge or the takeaway fee on the old CC.)
A. H.
As a city in itself Rio is definitely better than SP, as a matter of fact it is one of the best, if not the best, in the world. It depends on what you are looking for. SP has much better infrastructure, better public transportation, better food, better hospital, better parks, more diversity so it has a better quality of living for me.
I have skipped Sao Paulo and stayed aroud different towns in Brazil in recent years. Maybe the boredom got to me, I was in mostly small towns in the south, too clean and too safe without excitement. I returned to Sao Paulo recently. I realized how much I missed this city. I can have American for breakfast, French for lunch and Korean for dinner, and the next day I can do the same without repeating all in walking distance. It the only city that serves real tea in Japanese restaurant that I know. This stay I paid between 15 are to 200 are for a meal. The cheapest one I found was 4 are, which is an increase from 2. 5 from a few years ago. Haha. It a long but cheap flight to Medellin and other capitals. I even went checking out some new apartments, thinking about making it a permanent base.
I think OP is understandably too excited. Unless things have changed, wait until summer, I bet you will see shorts or even flipflop in Scandallo. There were a group of local customers that treat it like a neighborhood bar. I wondered if they had to pay entrada. I have reported that the girls fondled a man and he got hard right on the couch in front of the elevator. Anyway, I saw many things and have reported them when I frequent the place, I have an exercise date so I have to stop.
RamDavidson84
08-19-25, 17:00
Great report, Ram! It's too bad about the theft. Shit happens on rare occasions. But I have one question about the incident: Why didn't you notice the theft after the 3-some ended but before the "slick" girl left the room? I mean that would be the time to reach for your wallet or wherever you keep your cash and pay her for her services, right? Or did you pay for the 3-some in advance? If the latter, that is where you made your mistake, although I want to make it perfectly clear, the onus is on the thief not you. I have been to the top 3 SP boates a hundred times or more and I have never been robbed even when I was careless about the cash in my front pocket, so I can say that 99.9 % of the girls are straight shooters, but I always pay afterwards even when I am a little short on cash and need to pay the girl's balance with a CC. I never bring more than 1200 BR to Scandallo and only a 1000 BR (max) to Bomboa, so sometimes I do spend more on the girls especially if I go for a 2nd girl. KKK! (I always put all other transactions which include the club entry fee, drinks, food, room charge or the takeaway fee on the old CC.)So I was a little banged up, a little too much partying with the girls. I am sure you guys can figure out what I mean by extra strength redbull. Anyway I have a metal the loop belt and it makes noise if you touch my pants. I fold my pants in a way if you have to go for my wallet its going to cling the metal belt loops and make noise. At the end of the session I look at my pants and they were folded just like I left them in the corner. So this girl is so slick that she some how got to my wallet with out making noise and setting the jeans back exactly how I folded them. I am guessing she did it while I was catching a BJ and not looking. I should have checked at the end of the threesome, but again I thought I was good just being in the boate and I was a bit reckless trying to enjoy myself. Looking back on it, they probably were in on it together to pull this off. Probably didn't plan on working too much longer at the club and wanted to make some extra money. I think some of these girls spend a lot of nights just dancing alone and don't get customers too often. If they were getting regular customers they wouldn't risk getting fire over a small payday like that. I paid them each 1000 Brazil for just the threesome and redbull. I was saving the cash for round two at Ceasaro later. I take the max amount out of the ATM to avoid fees, so usually 2500 Brazil will last me the week if I go out two or three times, plus food and things like that. I use CC in the boates. I just happen to hit the ATM up that day before the boat.
RamDavidson84
08-19-25, 17:48
It depends on what you are looking for. SP has much better infrastructure, better public transportation, better food, better hospital, better parks, more diversity so it has a better quality of living for me.
I have skipped Sao Paulo and stayed aroud different towns in Brazil in recent years. Maybe the boredom got to me, I was in mostly small towns in the south, too clean and too safe without excitement. I returned to Sao Paulo recently. I realized how much I missed this city. I can have American for breakfast, French for lunch and Korean for dinner, and the next day I can do the same without repeating all in walking distance. It the only city that serves real tea in Japanese restaurant that I know. This stay I paid between 15 are to 200 are for a meal. The cheapest one I found was 4 are, which is an increase from 2. 5 from a few years ago. Haha. It a long but cheap flight to Medellin and other capitals. I even went checking out some new apartments, thinking about making it a permanent base.
I think OP is understandably too excited. Unless things have changed, wait until summer, I bet you will see shorts or even flipflop in Scandallo. There were a group of local customers that treat it like a neighborhood bar. I wondered if they had to pay entrada. I have reported that the girls fondled a man and he got hard right on the couch in front of the elevator. Anyway, I saw many things and have reported them when I frequent the place, I have an exercise date so I have to stop.I have spent the last three weeks hitting these boates up and from what I have gathered they are classy joints. Now could some one roll up in shorts and flip flops, I guess they could? But my recommendation would be "When in Rome". If the girls and the staff are in suits and nice night club attire, you should probably dress nice as well to have the best experience possible. If your in Sosua or Pattaya then again, when in Rome, its probably over doing it to wear anything more than shorts a t shirt and slip flops. As for the raunchiness, the girls have definitely been more reserved, many times in Rio the girls just come up and grind on you and make out with you trying to grab your dick and when back in the room trying to get a few extra bucks for raw anal, which I decline but have had girls offer. Here, you call the girls over and honestly its back and forth on the translator and maybe some light kissing and dancing until you get back to the room. Sometimes service is not so great and its not a true authentic GFE session, some times it is. Overall from my experience Rio is a bit more raunchy and the service is better, but it comes at the expense of the looks of the girls. The girls in Rio are still very attractive, but not as attractive as the girls in the boates in SP. Now, I am also sure all kinds of weird raunchy things go on behind the scenes in the SP boates and probably even the regular night clubs. But when you walk in these places, you will not see Frank the 300 lb truck driver in a flannel catching a handjob from a Thai massage lady who has been in the game since Clinton was president like you will in Pattaya LOL. These boates look like classy night clubs and the people who work there seem to treat it as such. Again, just my two cents for anyone visiting SP, think "When in Rome".
Axel Heyst
08-19-25, 18:56
So I was a little banged up, a little too much partying with the girls. I am sure you guys can figure out what I mean by extra strength redbull. Again, I don't think you share any of the blame. It's all on the girls. Bad Girls! So, don't let it get you down. This is a very, very rare event, although it could have happened to anyone of us.
I am just saying that fate dealt you a bad hand this time around because in the vast majority of Boate sessions this BS would not have occurred period. But if you had taken your wallet out to pay them at the end of the threesome, they would have been caught red handed in the room, and either they would have given you your money back or they would not have been paid for their services and would have faced a painful scene with you and Bomboa's manager.
In any case, Rock on! And thanks again for your solid and honest reportage.
"When in Rome".I always suggest others to take all posts to form a better perspective so my post is to complement yours. I used to stay in Sao Paulo several months a year but nowadays I mostly passing thru until recently I kept moving north and decided to come to Sao Paulo because I was thinking to go somewhere warmer too, lol.
In my post, I mentioned locals treat the club like a neighborhood bar. They came like they lived next door or something and played pool. Jeans and shirt certainly is not a problem as I wear them all the time. I practically have all my life in a luggage so I have limited choice.
There is no question that the place is classy. I had a college girl who spoke perfect English, and she was one girl that I knew will be successful in her future. Even she would made out with me right on the couch in front of everyone. She probably would not go as far as other Scandallo girls who took off pants or shirt to show me breast or bunda. By this time, the girls are familiar with me. I reported all these before. I also reported one girl in 4 x4 would not kiss me in the club and I remember AH asked me why here. I also had Scandallo girls followed me to the bathroom and waiting outside so I couldn't ditch them.
I also had a girl who stole from me in a developed country. She was a regular so I had my guard down, and I was having a session with her friend. She left enough money in my wallet to pay her friend. I knew because I withdrew money right before the session similar to your situation. She denied it and I just did not care to trouble myself with it.
GreatEraIm
08-20-25, 02:35
You guys are very knowledgeable and I've learned a lot just reading. I'll be in SP for the first time in 2 weeks (for the NFL game). What are your top things you recommend I do?
Do any of the ladies in the Boates speak English or is it hit and miss, my Portuguese is very beginner. I'm much better at Spanish.
I was told Sept. 7 is Independence Day in Brazil? Any special events going on?
Ram, sorry that happened to you. Being Robbed is never fun.
RamDavidson84
08-20-25, 09:12
I always suggest others to take all posts to form a better perspective so my post is to complement yours. I used to stay in Sao Paulo several months a year but nowadays I mostly passing thru until recently I kept moving north and decided to come to Sao Paulo because I was thinking to go somewhere warmer too, lol.
In my post, I mentioned locals treat the club like a neighborhood bar. They came like they lived next door or something and played pool. Jeans and shirt certainly is not a problem as I wear them all the time. I practically have all my life in a luggage so I have limited choice.
There is no question that the place is classy. I had a college girl who spoke perfect English, and she was one girl that I knew will be successful in her future. Even she would made out with me right on the couch in front of everyone. She probably would not go as far as other Scandallo girls who took off pants or shirt to show me breast or bunda. By this time, the girls are familiar with me. I reported all these before. I also reported one girl in 4 x4 would not kiss me in the club and I remember AH asked me why here. I also had Scandallo girls followed me to the bathroom and waiting outside so I couldn't ditch them.
I also had a girl who stole from me in a developed country. She was a regular so I had my guard down, and I was having a session with her friend. She left enough money in my wallet to pay her friend. I knew because I withdrew money right before the session similar to your situation. She denied it and I just did not care to trouble myself with it.You sir are correct. I just went tonight on a Tuesday and the place was packed to the gils with women! On a fuckin Tuesday! Anyway my first two times were on the weekend and it was still good but not packed wall to wall like it was tonight. Man, if you had a hard dick you had your pick of the lot. Girls were very very quick to accept my 1000 Brazil offer, which is still alot but way better than girls telling me they won't budge off 1500 Brazil. So my boys, skip all the bull shit and just get your ass to Scandallo.
Pro tip: Meet a girl from Bahia, they may be the sweetest girls on Earth and the service is top notch.
You sir are correct. I just went tonight on a Tuesday and the place was packed to the gils with women! On a fuckin Tuesday! Anyway my first two times were on the weekend and it was still good but not packed wall to wall like it was tonight. Man, if you had a hard dick you had your pick of the lot. Girls were very very quick to accept my 1000 Brazil offer, which is still alot but way better than girls telling me they won't budge off 1500 Brazil. So my boys, skip all the bull shit and just get your ass to Scandallo.
Pro tip: Meet a girl from Bahia, they may be the sweetest girls on Earth and the service is top notch.Tuesday was wall to wall garotas. The local band was good, enjoyed the food as it top notch. It was a little cold for the open-air bar. All shapes, sizes showed up tonight. No really it was damn packed. I arrived late at midnight, forgot about the increased entry price. I found two 21-year-old sexy bleached blondes. Seen them around for a few months. The deal was 800 brl for all night until the next day at Lush my favorite erotic motel with a pool. And I would pay Uber ride to Rick Towers. There are two or three hotel apartments within 2 minutes' walking distance of Scandallo. The out-of-town garotas stay, three or four to a room. Had a great time threesome everything goes Maralo, jacuzzi, pool, drinks, champagne, dinner & cafe de manaha serves in the suites. The closer we get to the NFL Sao paulo game the.
Less likely to have garotas to lower their price. So take advantage of it now.
Kkk.
BTW both were deep throat cum swallowers non-gag or nonspit, both did the deed without asking or any extra payment. Prime has two new young garotas, so-so in looks, both are cum swallowers for now kkk.
It doesn't bother me if girls get offended when I bring my clothing into the bathroom with me. The funny thing is I've only felt the need to do that at the more upscale places.
Disclaimer: I've only visited Scandallo and Casarao.
I agree with this. Scandallo is the best. I didn't even go to Rio or any other club in SP for that matter. Beautiful girls, talking, flirting. The place is very high end and the girl pricing though expensive compared to other places in the world like FKKs it's not that bad for that quality. Yes be careful with the girls in general, bad service, cheating on time, hidden extras are all part of the mongering world.
I did meet a girl who was ex-Cafe Photo in Scandallo, she was stunning so I'd imagine the tier-2 clubs as you labelled them will have some beauties if someone finds themselves running out of girls in Scandallo.
Casarao is what it is for the price, not as high end as Scandallo but you can find a few diamonds in the rough for the price. Pro tip: Do not use the hotel next to Casarao for short affair, it's rundown and disgusting. Plan to bring a girl back to your hotel.
Yeah if you're short on time just do Scandallo. Everything else is downhill from there..
Tuesday was wall to wall garotas. The local band was good, enjoyed the food as it top notch. It was a little cold for the open-air bar. All shapes, sizes showed up tonight. No really it was damn packed. I arrived late at midnight, forgot about the increased entry price. I found two 21-year-old sexy bleached blondes. Seen them around for a few months. The deal was 800 brl for all night until the next day at Lush my favorite erotic motel with a pool. And I would pay Uber ride to Rick Towers. There are two or three hotel apartments within 2 minutes' walking distance of Scandallo. The out-of-town garotas stay, three or four to a room. Had a great time threesome everything goes Maralo, jacuzzi, pool, drinks, champagne, dinner & cafe de manaha serves in the suites. The closer we get to the NFL Sao paulo game the.
Less likely to have garotas to lower their price. So take advantage of it now..You got two blonde Brazilian girls for 800 R for long time take out from Scandallo?! You sir are a God LOL. Even with my decent Portuguese I rarely do better than 1500 for TL takeout!.
RamDavidson84
08-21-25, 01:29
You got two blonde Brazilian girls for 800 R for long time take out from Scandallo?! You sir are a God LOL. Even with my decent Portuguese I rarely do better than 1500 for TL takeout!.That sounds like a hell of a good time LOL. Just curious, what's the fee to take a girl out of the club? I enjoy the hunt as much as the actual sex, so I was sticking to in house action so I could get back down to keep flirting with the girls and seeing what else popped up. On my way home I noticed all the fancy motels conveniently located right next to Scandallo. I think there were so many girls looking for action that night, they would have accepted 800 brl, especially after 2 am Almost all the girls I spoke to were not from Sao Paulo so I think there is a certain amount they probably have to earn to cover travel costs. This is just me speculating. You could see them walk with a little desperation later in the night when they realized they may not land a customer. I am looking pretty rough these days after a summer of hard drinking and whoring in Brazil and DR and I was getting approached all night LOL. It was the best night I have had in Brazil so far.
Hey guys. I am nearly finalized for my first trip to Sao Paulo next week. I am a bit of a high baller when it comes to experience when on vacation. I prefer to stay in high end hotels in other cities (Dubai / Medellin / Bangkok etc.) and bring the girls back for an overnight. I have a strong preference for suites…
I am looking at some of the 5 star hotels in SP for next week and following week.
I can get a presidential suite at Grand Hyatt through my points (Not that expensive with the points it seems), OR pay for Marriott executive apartments OR stay at the Presidential suite at Bourbon / Wyndham in Ibirapuera.
I am liking the Grand Hyatt the most based on online pictures of the Presidential suite. But, it seems TOO FAR from scandallo (the place where I can see myself spending most time in the evenings). Is the traffic too bad in evening time?..
Marriott seems like a decent compromise, though not luxurious at all. Its just decently fine.
Wyndham Ibirapuera seems good as well. Especially their Presidential suite, but worried about some of the complaints here on the airplane noise level .?Did this Rahul guy ever write a report? He told us how awesome he was and then had 8 to 10 posts with detailed questions which we diligently answered. He also DMed several directly and we responded. Nothing burns me more than guys who ask a ton of questions, many of which they can find answers to if they RTFF, and then don't give back. It looks like he's done the same in several other threads.
I'm a little grumpy today LOL.
You got two blonde Brazilian girls for 800 R for long time take out from Scandallo?! You sir are a God LOL. Even with my decent Portuguese I rarely do better than 1500 for TL takeout!.I, for one, am glad that only Tocha gets those prices. He's very responsible and considerate of others, which is why he only takes two girls at a time. Can you imagine what would happen if those prices were offered to selfish a-holes who take 5-10 girls at a time paying insane prices?
Nothing burns me more than guys who ask a ton of questions, many of which they can find answers to if they RTFF, and then don't give back.+billion.
I was wondering about the same thing about this guy. He gave a glorious mongering resume, like many do for some fucking reason, to impress and I guess it worked, yet again.
I too am bit grumpy today 😉.
I, for one, am glad that only Tocha gets those prices. He's very responsible and considerate of others, so he only takes two girls at a time. Can you imagine what would happen if those prices were offered to selfish a-holes who take 5-10 girls at a time paying insane prices?Dudes I wrote early my approach to scandallos. I mentioned this before, that I go to Scandallos with a sexy girlfriend, I go as a couple. I have a wingwoman, a garota navigator, a hype gal, she is a young, cute, and fun partner. I rotate between different girlfriend partners. We talk to scandalous garotas together or they go off and smoke or talk more, gossip in the ladies' room. We buy drinks, food, special DJ music requests, give a shout-out to a garota, and watch her face light up. They get a fvcking kick hearing their name called out by the DJ shout out. Or I request their favorite brasilian songb played by the local band. Pro tip: the bands will play a request if you know how it works. After 1. 30 am the scandallo garotas are off shift. I offer to continue the couple's party with more fun action at nearby lush, colonial, myflowers, and crush any nearby spots. Yeah, they ask for 1200 or 1000, but I stick to 800 all night because we pick up one or two garotas as a couple. So I offer couples pricing kkkkk. Many garotas agree to continue the after party, others don't. It helps to have a sexy ass girlfriend, Scandallo garoratas are bisexual or loveblesbian action with other garotas, it is no problem for them. On Tues to Thurs night more Garotas than guys this approach consistently works for me. During special weeks, NFL week, F1 etc I know they ain't budging from the 2 mil, 3 mil and 4 mil a session the weekend bros in town are offering. No problem I can wait for next month or other weeks when its regular locals nights.
Sao Paulo. Love motels.
Love motels near scandalo and around SP.
QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3022000]That sounds like a hell of a good time LOL. Just curious, what's the fee to take a girl out of the club? . On my way home I noticed all the fancy motels conveniently located right next to Scandallo. [ / QUOTE.
True words have been spoken.
With Moema as a starting point.
Sao Paulo. Love motels.
Andar de Cima. Sutes. Centro, So Paulo (erotic fun suites, short Uber from Casarao, next door to Love Cabaret, suites suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, fun party atmosphere in suites).
Motel Colonial Palace (fucking best economical deal on the budget, decent pool, excellent food, and breakfast, short Uber from Scandallo, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, damn uber drivers prefer pickup outside instead of meeting in suites, the religious uber drivers never come inside, only outside drop-off, or pick up or they cancel the ride).
Lush Motel (unidade Ipiranga) (pool with toys, modern suites, short Uber from Scandallo decent size pool, suitable for threesome, all night, foursome are a bit tight, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service).
Secrets Motel are. Sebastopol, 47 - Vila Inglesa, So Paulo (nice daytime midpoint place to meet garotas when they live far away, suites average, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, marola friendly, service sucks, order iFood).
Hotel For Lovers, one minute walk from Jabaqura Metro.
Are. Dos Jequitibs, 261 - Jardim Oriental, (the rooms suck, the service sucks, and the price is cheap mas barrato, order iFood, however, the location for afternoon meetup, no Uber needed. Garotas takes the metro to Jabaquara Metro, walks less than one minute to the motel, a good meet-up spot when there is rain, afternoon thunderstorms, and traffic backed up for miles, and promised to meet at 5 pm, nothing else to recommend about the place). Garotas can leave by metro or onibus, easy in easy out for them).
Swing Motel, no Morumbi, So Paulo (far from scandallo, 20 min uber from Moema, erotic fun suites, suites suitable but tight for threesome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, ok service, colorful suites).
In Rio.
Panda Motel Botafogo, (top end suites with fvcking large ass pool, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service in tuxedos, short Uber from Monte Carlos).
Those are my places and why what's yours and why?Love motels near scandalo and around SP. I have more but have been too busy to write them up. I don't depend on the review or recommendation from garotas. As the guy paying for shit my view has been different from garotas views of love motels.
Just curious, what's the fee to take a girl out of the club?$R400 at Scandallo.
OkSwimmer5517
08-21-25, 14:31
It doesn't bother me if girls get offended when I bring my clothing into the bathroom with me. The funny thing is I've only felt the need to do that at the more upscale places.10 characters.
Incrociatore
08-22-25, 01:16
So you guys pay, how much, 500 BRL to enter in the club, and then you probably spend 200/300 more for drinks, maybe more, and between 800 and 1500 to spend a few hours with a girl (because at 2 PM, you won't be up for long), and probably have sex twice, because more you even can't. Crazy. With that money in Africa I organise an orgy with 10 girls. Something is wrong with you all.
That sounds like a hell of a good time LOL. Just curious, what's the fee to take a girl out of the club? I enjoy the hunt as much as the actual sex, so I was sticking to in house action so I could get back down to keep flirting with the girls and seeing what else popped up. On my way home I noticed all the fancy motels conveniently located right next to Scandallo. I think there were so many girls looking for action that night, they would have accepted 800 brl, especially after 2 am Almost all the girls I spoke to were not from Sao Paulo so I think there is a certain amount they probably have to earn to cover travel costs. This is just me speculating. You could see them walk with a little desperation later in the night when they realized they may not land a customer. I am looking pretty rough these days after a summer of hard drinking and whoring in Brazil and DR and I was getting approached all night LOL. It was the best night I have had in Brazil so far.
Axel Heyst
08-22-25, 19:57
So you guys pay, how much, 500 BRL to enter in the club, and then you probably spend 200/300 more for drinks, maybe more, and between 800 and 1500 to spend a few hours with a girl (because at 2 PM, you won't be up for long), and probably have sex twice, because more you even can't. Crazy. With that money in Africa I organise an orgy with 10 girls. Something is wrong with you all.Maybe some of us just don't want to go to Africa. And maybe some of us like the highly variable local flavors that Brazilian girls come in like pure white, black, Indian, & Japanese and all possible mixed-race combinations thereof. Some of us prefer brancas. Some of us just like the local Brazilian vibe, the service quality and the sexual attitudes of the girls here. There are as many reasons why some of us keep returning to SP as there are pretty, Brazilian, working girls in SP.
The prices you quote above are the prices in the most high-end 1st class boates especially Scandallo. But a session with a Cararao girl won't run you more than 750 to 800 br total. In addition, SP has many friendly clinicas that offer punters great bang for your buck opportunities ranging from 175 br to 360 br total per session with some pretty entertaining girls.
But I am interested in what you have experienced. What African countries have you been to and which ones do you highly recommend for both high quality African girls and great sex? Personally, I have always wanted to check out Ethiopia for their attractive girls and the food, but recent reports in the ISG thread have not been very positive.
RamDavidson84
08-22-25, 20:05
So you guys pay, how much, 500 BRL to enter in the club, and then you probably spend 200/300 more for drinks, maybe more, and between 800 and 1500 to spend a few hours with a girl (because at 2 PM, you won't be up for long), and probably have sex twice, because more you even can't. Crazy. With that money in Africa I organise an orgy with 10 girls. Something is wrong with you all.When you die, you can't take that money with you LOL.
So what's the best spots in Africa where you pull off these 10 women orgies? LOL ten women orgy seems a little over kill for me.
RamDavidson84
08-22-25, 20:39
Maybe some of us just don't want to go to Africa. And maybe some of us like the highly variable local flavors that Brazilian girls come in like pure white, black, Indian, & Japanese and all possible mixed-race combinations thereof. Some of us prefer brancas. Some of us just like the local Brazilian vibe, the service quality and the sexual attitudes of the girls here. There are as many reasons why some of us keep returning to SP as there are pretty, Brazilian, working girls in SP.
The prices you quote above are the prices in the most high-end 1st class boates especially Scandallo. But a session with a Cararao girl won't run you more than 750 to 800 br total. In addition, SP has many friendly clinicas that offer punters great bang for your buck opportunities ranging from 175 br to 360 br total per session with some pretty entertaining girls.
But I am interested in what you have experienced. What African countries have you been to and which ones do you highly recommend for both high quality African girls and great sex? Personally, I have always wanted to check out Ethiopia for their attractive girls and the food, but recent reports in the ISG thread have not been very positive.If you want to go cheaper in a boate. The best budget boate is Connection. 300 entry, 150 consumable. 40 brl for beers 60 brl for whiskey. 180 for rooms onsite which are same layout as Scandallo. Girls start out at 1000 brl asking, but are quick to take 500 brl and cheaper if you do 2 or 3 hours with them. Take out fee is 200 I think.
Downside. Connection in traffic around 9:00 is 35 minutes from Moema. Uber cost me 90 brl just to get there. Almost twice as much as uber to Scandallo. In non traffic less than 20 minutes, your ride home will be quicker than getting there. Club is very nice and quite big, has 40 to 60 girls, and best nights are apparently Friday and Saturday. The girls are a slight step down from Scandallo but better than Casero. Think Hot slutty milfs in early thirties mixed with some younger hot girls.
Would I return knowing there is Scandallo. Yes, but only if I was on a longer trip, which I currently am. I can't afford Scandallos multiple times a week, so Connection works well for me. On my next trip to Sao Paulo, I may try and stay at a hotel which is Closer to Scandallo. If you are traveling from Moema, Connection is in that same direction. Another boate which I have heard good things about is Caster Club which is down the street from Connection, but I have not been there personally. I actually think one of the girls told me, Scandallos and Connection are owned by the same owners.
So you guys pay, how much, 500 BRL to enter in the club, and then you probably spend 200/300 more for drinks, maybe more, and between 800 and 1500 to spend a few hours with a girl (because at 2 PM, you won't be up for long), and probably have sex twice, because more you even can't. Crazy. With that money in Africa I organise an orgy with 10 girls. Something is wrong with you all.I live in Africa and in my "Africa" you won't get half of that kind of quality for 10 times the price.
GreatEraIm
08-23-25, 01:56
Where exactly is connection?
I will be staying near Paulista and Rua Augusta.
If you want to go cheaper in a boate. The best budget boate is Connection. 300 entry, 150 consumable. 40 brl for beers 60 brl for whiskey. 180 for rooms onsite which are same layout as Scandallo. Girls start out at 1000 brl asking, but are quick to take 500 brl and cheaper if you do 2 or 3 hours with them. Take out fee is 200 I think.
Downside. Connection in traffic around 9:00 is 35 minutes from Moema. Uber cost me 90 brl just to get there. Almost twice as much as uber to Scandallo. In non traffic less than 20 minutes, your ride home will be quicker than getting there. Club is very nice and quite big, has 40 to 60 girls, and best nights are apparently Friday and Saturday. The girls are a slight step down from Scandallo but better than Casero. Think Hot slutty milfs in early thirties mixed with some younger hot girls.
Would I return knowing there is Scandallo. Yes, but only if I was on a longer trip, which I currently am. I can't afford Scandallos multiple times a week, so Connection works well for me. On my next trip to Sao Paulo, I may try and stay at a hotel which is Closer to Scandallo. If you are traveling from Moema, Connection is in that same direction. Another boate which I have heard good things about is Caster Club which is down the street from Connection, but I have not been there personally. I actually think one of the girls told me, Scandallos and Connection are owned by the same owners.
. Another boate which I have heard good things about is Caster Club which is down the street from Connection, but I have not been there personally. I actually think one of the girls told me, Scandallos and Connection are owned by the same owners.I reported about Castor a few years ago. It's a club with pool that is also a common boate setup so it may be interesting to you the first time. It is quite a distance away from Connection.
I am surprised that the Connection now cost so much more.
So you guys pay, how much, 500 BRL to enter in the clubIt's a nice club and that does not come free so you are paying for the ambiance, not the girl. For the most part, the girl's price can be fair if you can negotiate.
RamDavidson84
08-23-25, 17:31
I reported about Castor a few years ago. It's a club with pool that is also a common boate setup so it may be interesting to you the first time. It is quite a distance away from Connection.
I am surprised that the Connection now cost so much more.My first time to Brazil, but from what I read, post pandemic everything increased drastically in the boates correct? Did prices basically double?
Expensive to get into the boates, but at least no tipping!
My first time to Brazil, but from what I read, post pandemic everything increased drastically in the boates correct? Did prices basically double?
Expensive to get into the boates, but at least no tipping!Yes, basically double. Note that hotel prices did more than double. To me it's not just boates' prices you have to look at. What are you going to shell out get good girlfriendly accomodation?
Where exactly is connection?
I will be staying near Paulista and Rua Augusta.Connection is rather far afield towards Zona Leste, however since it is a late night club, peak traffic will already have subsided when you set out.
Steve 9696
08-23-25, 21:48
My first time to Brazil, but from what I read, post pandemic everything increased drastically in the boates correct? Did prices basically double?
Expensive to get into the boates, but at least no tipping!My experience is that prices are about the same in USD. Maybe up 10-20% which is low compared to rest of world girl inflation.
Note that I am not the master negotiator or try to push the girls down alot, so no point in a bunch of guys giving me shit about how I overpaid. Here are some actual prices I paid in Reals. These were top shelf girls.
2018 - Scandallo 600-800. Casarao 400.
2025 - Scandallo 1000-1200. Casarao 600.
As you can see, in reals it's 50% higher. But in 2018 the Real was 4.0 to 1. Now it's 5.65 to 1. So it's almost a wash in USD. And that’s 7 years later! Brazil prices remain very good.
Sao Paulo was my last stop of over 2-months long trip. I always try to fly out of Sao Paulo because how can you visit Brazil and not stop by Scandalo? At least IMHO, and I'm not what you call a wealthy guy too.
I stayed on Rua Augusta, and I found it as safe as any other place I stayed in SP. Yes, it's a hip area, sort of like Parque de las Hippies in Bogota. I found both areas harmless and I do look reasonably gringo.
There is some sporadic street action on Augusta, mostly daytime when Casarao and other numerous similar clubs in the area are closed.
You can run into incidental programas all the way up to Paulista but the main spot is a small luncheonette called Patna.
I think I saw Angelina (in her mid-30's) every day, but you see other younger ones too. Some would later go to Casarao or other places around. Many are not dressed well enough to be let in anywhere. Some indeed look like druggies, mostly white chicks but if you're willing to take a chance I saw some pretty fresh, and good looking junkies among them too. Others are fine and are just having their cerveja. Just chat them up and I'm sure you could have most of them for 200, if not less. I'm pretty sure that if they like you, they'the hang with you to no limit. I just never got that far because I only had 4 days in SP, had to do tourism, meet friends, etc. Intended to but when I was ready for one of them on Saturday (I was leaving Saturday night), I found nobody at Patna, so look at it as a weekday daytime programa hangout.
Now onto to the clubs. Casarao is ok. This was my first time there. 40 brl entry or 60 brl consumable (one drink). You could enter other clubs nearby for 20 brl and even for free.
Ladies in all places are ok.
Most of what I saw in Rio, including street action in Recreo or at Mab's was on about the same level, if not better. There are some gems there for sure though. The atmosphere at Casarao is pretty rambunctious. The music is loud. You feel that you're in the neighborhood club. Both times I was there it was reasonably busy. On Wednesday around 10 ish-11 ish moderately so. Got it on with the girl named Quezia. Nice, pretty, well build imo, 1. 66 cm, very small tits. She wouldn't go to my place only to the rooms or hotels (not my thing) so I just had a nice half-and-hour kiss and squeeze session with her for a 100 brl right there at the club. Good kisser, loves to have her boobs lightly bitten. Have her contact info if anybody's interested.
On Friday Casarao was packed so I left quickly and went to Scandalo which for me is a must stop every time I'm in SP.
Now Scandalo is a must visit at least once in your lifetime. The density of a 'gorgeous woman per square meter / foot' is probably the highest in the world. They are nice and friendly too while in Casarao I found many to be somewhat stand-offish.
The difference between how they look and the clothes they wear in Casarao and Scandalo is about the same as between Casarao and the street, as in huge, enormous, massive, or you can use any other trump-speak vocabulary to describe Scandalo.
It's the same of course regarding price. There is a huge difference and justifiably so. Scandalo is 600,400 of which is consumable. Step into Scandalo however and you'd know that the price fits the product. Women at Scandalo ask for 1000-1500 brl + 350-400 for the room, or 400 bar fine to take them out. You can probably find some of them somewhere else too, and for less but not all of them, and I doubt the prettiest ones too. In scandalo they're all assembled in one place. It truly is a sight to behold.
I got 'my' girl Bruna to spend the night at my place for 1,000 + 400 for the casa. But you got to chat them up first to get this type of rate and for the whole night. Brasileira got to like you and want to do it, or it would be room only and for no more than 40 minutes. Not sure if 1000 brl would do too. I speak pretty good Portuguese so in that I usually do have a leg up on many gringos.
Ladies must work 5 days / week in Scandalo, or they pay 400 brl entry. I also spoke to one of the managers. The interview process for girls wanting to work there is pretty intense for this type of place. Looks, and they do make them strip to ensure that there are no stretch marks + how they come across: no ghetto, even if you're gorgeous apparently is a must, they must be able to hold conversation which is nice to know. Every girl I chatted with in Scandalo was friendly and generally fluid in convo. Nice.
For me Scandalo is a must stop. I don't refer to Scandalo as a club. I call it a museum. Like Louvre or Metropolitan. You go there to watch an exhibit of God's work of art even if you don't intend to partake in action. BTW, the food in Scandalo is second to none too, and 400 out of 600 is consumable so you'the get your monies worth no matter what imo. You get a menu with prices. Whether you buy yourself a drink or buy lady a drink it costs the same. I don't know if girls get kickbacks for making you buy them a drink or not. I suspect not. All is very transparent in Scandalo. I didn't notice any fine print reflected at my check-out.
This is what I'd call a fully respectable place. Also, there are few rooms: one loud room with the band or music playing and ladies swaying and singing along, and quite dining hall and two other rooms where you could also talk. It's a really classy, well thought out place. I'm sure the girls sort of proud to work there. If you got selected to work at Scandalo that in itself is her impartial confirmation that she is pretty and a smooth talker.
If you want to go cheaper in a boate. The best budget boate is Connection. 300 entry, 150 consumable. 40 brl for beers 60 brl for whiskey. 180 for rooms onsite which are same layout as Scandallo. Girls start out at 1000 brl asking, but are quick to take 500 brl and cheaper if you do 2 or 3 hours with them. Take out fee is 200 I think.
Downside. Connection in traffic around 9:00 is 35 minutes from Moema. Uber cost me 90 brl just to get there. Almost twice as much as uber to Scandallo. In non traffic less than 20 minutes, your ride home will be quicker than getting there. Club is very nice and quite big, has 40 to 60 girls, and best nights are apparently Friday and Saturday. The girls are a slight step down from Scandallo but better than Casero. Think Hot slutty milfs in early thirties mixed with some younger hot girls.
Would I return knowing there is Scandallo. Yes, but only if I was on a longer trip, which I currently am. I can't afford Scandallos multiple times a week, so Connection works well for me. On my next trip to Sao Paulo, I may try and stay at a hotel which is Closer to Scandallo. If you are traveling from Moema, Connection is in that same direction. Another boate which I have heard good things about is Caster Club which is down the street from Connection, but I have not been there personally. I actually think one of the girls told me, Scandallos and Connection are owned by the same owners.Whats the address for Connection? Thanks.
Axel Heyst
08-25-25, 13:05
I enjoyed reading your report, Nrlmus. Your perspective on Augusta was both interesting and informative. You know I will have to check out Patna one afternoon just for the hell of it although it is later at night when the street comes alive.
As to Casarao, I view the girls and the action there as a raw slice of the SP nightlife. It is a meat market, but a very good one IMHO. It sort of reminds me of the original Thermae in BKK, when it was great. KKK /555. I usually show up at Casarao around midnight when it is packed with girls. I walk around and find a girl that looks good to me, we talk a little, and if she seems nice, away we go. I hate the adjacent hotel because some of the rooms are appalling so I always take my girls back to my hotel for same price minus the hotel charge and the girls usually stay longer than an hour. I make them comfortable and supply the booze & smoke. They provide the entertainment.
Sao Paulo was my last stop of over 2-months long trip. I always try to fly out of Sao Paulo because how can you visit Brazil and not stop by Scandalo? At least IMHO, and I'm not what you call a wealthy guy too.
I stayed on Rua Augusta, and I found it as safe as any other place I stayed in SP. Yes, it's a hip area, sort of like Parque de las Hippies in Bogota. I found both areas harmless and I do look reasonably gringo.
There is some sporadic street action on Augusta, mostly daytime when Casarao and other numerous similar clubs in the area are closed.
You can run into incidental programas all the way up to Paulista but the main spot is a small luncheonette called Patna.
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Now onto to the clubs. Casarao is ok. This was my first time there. 40 brl entry or 60 brl consumable (one drink). You could enter other clubs nearby for 20 brl and even for free.
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The atmosphere at Casarao is pretty rambunctious. The music is loud. You feel that you're in the neighborhood club. Both times I was there it was reasonably busy. On Wednesday around 10 ish-11 ish moderately so. Got it on with the girl named Quezia. Nice, pretty, well build imo, 1. 66 cm, very small tits. She wouldn't go to my place only to the rooms or hotels (not my thing) so I just had a nice half-and-hour kiss and squeeze session with her for a 100 brl right there at the club. Good kisser, loves to have her boobs lightly bitten. Have her contact info if anybody's interested.
On Friday Casarao was packed so I left quickly and went to Scandalo which for me is a must stop every time I'm in SP.
Now Scandalo is a must visit at least once in your lifetime. The density of a 'gorgeous woman per square meter / foot' is probably the highest in the world. They are nice and friendly too while in Casarao I found many to be somewhat stand-offish.
The difference between how they look and the clothes they wear in Casarao and Scandalo is about the same as between Casarao and the street, as in huge, enormous, massive, or you can use any other trump-speak vocabulary to describe Scandalo.
It's the same of course regarding price. There is a huge difference and justifiably so. Scandalo is 600,400 of which is consumable. Step into Scandalo however and you'd know that the price fits the product. Women at Scandalo ask for 1000-1500 brl + 350-400 for the room, or 400 bar fine to take them out. You can probably find some of them somewhere else too, and for less but not all of them, and I doubt the prettiest ones too. In scandalo they're all assembled in one place. It truly is a sight to behold.
I got 'my' girl Bruna to spend the night at my place for 1,000 + 400 for the casa. But you got to chat them up first to get this type of rate and for the whole night. Brasileira got to like you and want to do it, or it would be room only and for no more than 40 minutes. Not sure if 1000 brl would do too. I speak pretty good Portuguese so in that I usually do have a leg up on many gringos.
Ladies must work 5 days / week in Scandalo, or they pay 400 brl entry. I also spoke to one of the managers. The interview process for girls wanting to work there is pretty intense for this type of place. Looks, and they do make them strip to ensure that there are no stretch marks + how they come across: no ghetto, even if you're gorgeous apparently is a must, they must be able to hold conversation which is nice to know. Every girl I chatted with in Scandalo was friendly and generally fluid in convo. Nice.
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For me Scandalo is a must stop.
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