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01-01-06, 01:00
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Bad4URHeart
01-01-06, 04:24
The previous illustration is a perfect point for all you newbie mongers to understand. Never, ever, ever fall for a PUTA. Extreme life choices and judgement lead to their choosen profession, and expect those same type of choices to be made with any relationship they have.

Successful relationships with PUTA are extremely rarely, and it is not a challenge that is worth undertaking, IMHO.

Thanks for the warning, Jimmy.

Ninguno Especial
01-01-06, 05:10
If you really want a decent hotel with a double room for about $50 a night, I would strongly advise you to get a hotel stateside in San Ysidro (motel 6, or the like).Travel Lodge is good too and much closer than Motel 6. They have good management now, no more credit card scan scams for the last 3 or 4 years.

Rider Jay
01-01-06, 05:24
This report is a little late but it's the first chance I've had to post.

I stayed at the Hotel Pueblo Amigo the weekend before Xmas and it was a pretty nice hotel, probable a 3 star by US standards. I parked on the US side and walked accross the border and then walked the few blocks to the hotel. The cab ride to the Zona from the hotel was $5 just like it is from the border. I was told in the past that there are some girls that work the hotel bar but I never saw any. There was however some pretty good night life in a mall right next to the hotels. A lot of night clubs and restaurants and it seemed to be mixed with visitors and "well to do" locals. There was a massage parlor in the mall and when I looked inside the girls looked pretty nice. A cab driver later told me, on my way downtown, that the girls all provided full service but that it was over $100 for the massage and extras.

Not the night life I was looking for, or the price I wanted to pay, so off to the Zona I went. There wasn't as many girls in the clubs or on the street as usual and I was told it gets even slow the closer you get to the holiday. Still there were plenty to choose from. I have noticed on my last few trips that some of the hotter ally girls will start there price at $40 when I ask in my horrible Spanish for Suky, Fuky, naked (sin ropa) 2 positions. They have always come down to $30 but on this trip some stuck to their original asking price. Even in AB I had a girl that wouldn't come off the $60 for the $50 that they all have accepted in the past. Of course in each case I passed and moved on to the next girl that interested me. I didn't want to be the stupid tourista the drove up the prices. Even with this I had a great time as usual and look forward to my next trip.

Stay safe,

Rider Jay

Double
01-02-06, 05:26
Man, I must say that you are way too involved. You made a spectacle of yourself. You got played by a professional, and reciprocated by assaulting the young lady and embarrassing yourself. You risked going to jail and seriously impacting your life because a hooker failed to return to your table and drink the beer that you purchased. The most reasonable course of action would have been to find another lady to drink with and to go on with your evening.

In your post you made reference to your mannerism stating that you are a well mannered man, most well mannered people that I know would not even think about pulling the stunt that you pulled. Respect yourself, you went way over board.

We are mongers, and to allow one self to loose all perspective, and then to place the blame on the ***** for loosing your perspective is ridiculous. She is a “puta” and she gets paid to be your girl. It is a fantasy.

It is like renting a car when you go on vacation. You check in, you get the keys, you take the car and drive it, and you return it. Even if you love the car, you don’t try to keep it. Hell if you like the car, you go out and buy one like it. Pay for pussy, not for love.

I believe the saying goes like this “you cannot turn a ***** into a house wife “. Now, you never mentioned that you wanted to marry her; however you overextended yourself to her game. She played you like a fiddle, and now you come to the board expecting that other mongers would pay homage to your stupidity by abusing her on their future trips to TJ. Senor, you need to give it all a rest, and regain your perspective.

I apologize if I sound like I am not feeling where you are coming from. It is actually the opposite; I see where you are coming from and think you need to hear some honest feedback.

California Guy
01-02-06, 06:24
Hey I feel bad for you but I do agree that tossing the beer on her wasn't the best idea. I think you taking a break from that club is a good idea and shows you understand it isn't worth the trouble. Unfortunately most of the girls in this line of business will take you for anything and everything. I definitely feel the girls in TJ are some of the worst I have ever been around which is why I have stopped going as much as I was, like 4 times a month. It is too bad but I like hearing the others here who have good experiences so you know it isn't 100% bad :) and there maybe a couple gfe types around. HK is also a decent place to chill but I also can't stand the constant hassle from those waiter friends of yours to buy the girl a 6 ouce beer for $7! Add the fact many girls are asking for 100 to go upstairs and the place is getting expensive even if it is still cheaper than the US. Anyway take care and I am sure people who read your message will stay away from this girl, I know I will because I don't need that type of negative drama when I'm there to relax and have fun. There is enough to deal with as I mentioned above and until things change, which I don't see it happening, I will be saving my money up and just taking trips to other countries instead. I live 20 minutes from the border so it sucks but I would rather save 2K and travel to another location on this site for 7 days of beautiful gfe treatment lol :)

Latina Passion
01-02-06, 10:47
One word tells it all "PUTA" Dude what the hell did you expect Susie fucking Home Maker!

IMHO the only thing the puta did was play the game, just like the game we are playing! We play why pay more? They play get him for all that he has fast and hard, amigo you just got played, plain and simple! This round she won, but do not let her win the next round, by having her rent space in your head!

I can bet you this, she is not letting your ass rent any space in her head, if you contacts you again, trust me she is just playing the game!

Dude just chulk it up to a mistake and MOVE on, and then win the next game with the next PUTA!

Nut Scratcher
01-02-06, 19:59
The only that is certain with the girls is that they are after your money. Once you get that straight, all else falls into place.

Mutha Foo
01-02-06, 21:11
I hear where you are coming from and I almost fell for some puta that was playing me like I was her novio. But I was fortunate, during that time I met a really cool chick and now we are steady. I have forgotten about that ole puta in TJ that usta play me. If I were you I forget TJ alll together and start looking for a normal girl. Peace.

Smut Villain
01-04-06, 05:50
I think it helps to remember what these girls are for in the first place: pay your dinero, then fuck-and-chuck. Nothing more. Start falling in love and you'll soon be separated from your pesos.

California Guy
01-09-06, 02:29
Went down last Wed. to check the action because I haven't been in a while. Mainly I haven't gone because of the holidays but also do to the prices girls were asking and the quality of service. Well to make a long story short, it was twice as bad!!

First I headed to HK as my normal practice and the place does look nice with the remodeling. I knew the girl count would be low but shit it was pathetic. The girls here aren't the best to begin with and now take away 70-80% of all of the girls and see what you get :) It was Wed. and there were probably 5 to 1 ratio of guys to girls and I would say 3 girls total that were 7 or above. I found this new girl, I hope I am correct and her name was Anna because she was terrible! She was a pretty girl but she wouldn't even let you rub her tits in the private dance rooms. I was wondering if it was that didn't like me but then I noticed some guys had that VIP section to themselves and she kept pulling the guys hands away as he was trying to play around as well. I told the waiter she sucked, one of the worst I have ever experienced for a lap dance and he said she was new and I know that is probably true because I hadn't seen her before, still she sucked! Then I sat down with a girl named Jessica and when I thought things couldn't be as bad this girl was about as cold as a dead fish. I bought her a drink and she did let me touch her but then I said dance, she said no...I said fuck, she said no.... I asked for BJ, and another no but this time she was able to order another drink without me approving so I was really pissed. Some of these waiters are pricks and I won't order from certain guys anymore because they scam you as much as some of these girls. I asked one guy to talk with her, I don't speak spanish at all, and she said she was on her period but she was just a whacked bag!

So now I am horny and fucking pissed so I walk outside and there are a total of 4 street girls :) lol I am not happy. I asked the first girl how much and she says $35! I said damn you better sucky fucky for that...nope just fucky so I bailed and flashed her $50 while laughing, she didn't seem happy but whatever. After I went to what I thought was club Tropical but I have never been and if this is the place people mention I didn't like it at all. Is this place across the street and to the left if you are walking out of AB's? It is a little dancing place, well the one I went to, and basically the same as that Miami club so I didn't understand the concept. I bought a drink and left to go to AB. There were a couple hot girls here and way more than HK and the street, oh by maybe 30! It was still a little light and I'm not a huge fan of AB because 90% of the girls seem to have a pure pro attitude and you are paying a min. $50-60 for less than 20min in a room. If you add taxi service, parking, drink costs, etc.. this is really the same for several providers in the US and that is fucked up! Well I decided to take one girl up because I had to bang something and I don't recall her name. She was tall, 5'8, and skinny like a model. In fact if she was in the US she could easily be a fashion model because she is pretty and tall. She said the normal 60 for the action and we went. She wasn't as bad as some of the girls I have had there, good BJ actually, but overall she was probably a 5 on a 1-10 scale.

Overall I am getting more and more bitter about Mexico. I like the fact it is close to me but otherwise there seems to be little benefit now since I am paying at least 1/2 of what I would pay a provider here for an hour of time, a real GFE, and I have to deal with the police etc... It sucks too because I know things won't change with so many military and tourists going down. They don't seem to care and are usually the ones over-paying these girls.

Infamous1
01-09-06, 02:39
This report is a little late but it's the first chance I've had to post.

I stayed at the Hotel Pueblo Amigo the weekend before Xmas and it was a pretty nice hotel, probable a 3 star by US standards. I parked on the US side and walked accross the border and then walked the few blocks to the hotel. The cab ride to the Zona from the hotel was $5 just like it is from the border. I was told in the past that there are some girls that work the hotel bar but I never saw any. There was however some pretty good night life in a mall right next to the hotels. A lot of night clubs and restaurants and it seemed to be mixed with visitors and "well to do" locals. There was a massage parlor in the mall and when I looked inside the girls looked pretty nice. A cab driver later told me, on my way downtown, that the girls all provided full service but that it was over $100 for the massage and extras.

Not the night life I was looking for, or the price I wanted to pay, so off to the Zona I went. There wasn't as many girls in the clubs or on the street as usual and I was told it gets even slow the closer you get to the holiday. Still there were plenty to choose from. I have noticed on my last few trips that some of the hotter ally girls will start there price at $40 when I ask in my horrible Spanish for Suky, Fuky, naked (sin ropa) 2 positions. They have always come down to $30 but on this trip some stuck to their original asking price. Even in AB I had a girl that wouldn't come off the $60 for the $50 that they all have accepted in the past. Of course in each case I passed and moved on to the next girl that interested me. I didn't want to be the stupid tourista the drove up the prices. Even with this I had a great time as usual and look forward to my next trip.

Stay safe,

Rider JayThank you for finally understanding & being one of those mongers WHO WILL REFUSE to pay extra $$$. The mongers who are new to the game dont understand, get the most for the least amount of $$$, thats half the fun of mongering (i think). We must take a stand against these putas & make them realize they are NOT worth $50+ We must unite as fellow mongers & take a stand. We will not pay high prices!!! :) :) :)

Mill Just
01-09-06, 12:11
Most nights around midnight you will her stumbling around absolutely drunk off her ass to take the pain away from her miserable Puta lifestyle. She will tell you lies about wanting to change her life, needs money for her two girls etc. and even will cry to add emphasis. It is all an act to get money out of you believe me I know from my personal experience with this Puta. This Puta has ice ruining through her veins, absolutely no love in her heart and no manners what so ever (I think she was raised by wolves or maybe pimps). She will do and say what ever she can to extract as much money out of you as possible so don’t believe a word this Puta says to you


Jimmy, you just described 90-95% of all working girls. Get them before they get you. This is not to say that you can't be polite and treat them with respect- just be aware that its all about the deal for them. They pretend to like you so that you can give them money. That's their profession just like a sales rep will take you out and treat you right, not because he likes you, but he wants you to buy from him.

There isn't a woman alive, especially a prostitute, that should be able to get so far into a man's head.

So, chill, and remember the next time you're getting off with a chica that its all about the nut.

I do admit, though, that I'm more than a little curious about meeting Tania...

Peace,

Miller2k

Some American
01-10-06, 15:59
I'm wondering if someone might be able to point me in the right direction for a massage with a happy ending or bj. I have done a search and there is next to no information on the TJ massage scene here, if indeed any exists. Thanks in advance for any help you might give me.

FlapJacK
01-11-06, 04:12
Well I went down Saturday night starting out by hitting the ally and it was dead, I did not see any of the chicas I like and the ones that were there were not that good looking. It was sort of strange as the girls were like clones and almost all of them looked the same or like they might be related in some strange way. It was sort of disturbing...

Anyways after checking out Miami bar we went over to Adelitas and there was like 50 fat bald sweaty guys to each girl which was a big turn off for me as I’m not banging some chick that’s been banged 10-20 times by these guys.

Next on to las chavales but I did not see any girls that I liked so we went to tropical and it also sucked arse.

Next we went to mermaids where my friend got a massage and sex for $80.00.

He claims it was a very good experience. I always figured mermaids to be a clip joint but maybe not.

Anyways I was pretty disappointed with the night as I normally go for the street girls near Miami but none of the ones and like were there and the ones that were there were not worth doing, with that said I think this was the first time I have gone down and not did a chica... maybe the chica shortage is due to the holidays? I don’t know, but it was pretty bad.

I may try again in a few days or a week but if this continues I probably will not be wasting my time down there anymore.

Country John
01-11-06, 04:28
I'm wondering if someone might be able to point me in the right direction for a massage with a happy ending or bj. I have done a search and there is next to no information on the TJ massage scene here, if indeed any exists. Thanks in advance for any help you might give me.

Lucky, this is obviously your first trip so you should go to "Mermaids," directly across the street from Adelitas. Go to the bar, wait until you find a girl that turns you on, buy her a beer and then take her up for an hour. She'll massage you real good and then fuck your brains out.

I can't think of a happier ending than that.

Stay out of the dark places in the Zona at night. Stick to the big bars in the Zona (Adelitas, Chicago Club, Mermaids, Miami/Hong Kong etc.)

Post your trip report, have fun.

Country John

Rush 2112
01-11-06, 04:52
Am I the only one who noticed this?:
11-25-05:

I have had a 15 month relationship with a bar girl, rented a house in Playas de Tijuana for 6 months and I will write about all this in other posts
then this:
12-05-05 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=414145&postcount=44)

and this:
12-24-05 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=419020&postcount=56)

and this:
12-25-05:

Any regulars who frequent Honk Kong take a girl named Tania up to the private booths or the hotel – what and how was the experience with her? She does not dance on the main stage but I see her dancing in a booth when you walk in the front door or on the bar top. I have seen her leave to go upstairs a few times with gringos.
and finally this:
12-30-05 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=420523&postcount=547)

Let's see here: You claim to have been in a "relationship" with Tania for 16 months. Were you actually "with" her, or were you just trying hard for a piece anyone could buy? You then tell how you feel like you've been played by her. If I only had sex with a working girl once in 16 months, I'd feel "played" too. You then tell her it's over, and fuck off. The very next day, you ask in a post dated 12-25-05 if anyone has had an experience with her, and how was it (huh?). :confused:

Your latest post has a warning to others and a plea to get her out of HK and onto the street where she can be fucked in the ass for $20. Why do I sense a bit of a feeble attempt to get even for her not giving herself to you completely, and choosing to continue as a working girl, even though you threw a lot of money her way.

As George Carlin said: "Whoever came up with the phrase 'let the buyer beware' was probably bleeding from the asshole."

Why do I sense a bit of a stalker mentality with your posts?

I live with a SW, who plays this trucker she has never had sex with into sending her hundreds of dollars a week through Western Union. This guy literally has run out of money, and is now running up his credit cards to pay for her, and neglected his kids' college tuition. In 4 months, he's only seen her twice, but is so sure that she really loves him. Ha!

You got played, and you fucking deserved it.

Rush 2112

Bad4URHeart
01-12-06, 19:37
I'm wondering if someone might be able to point me in the right direction for a massage with a happy ending or bj. I have done a search and there is next to no information on the TJ massage scene here, if indeed any exists. Thanks in advance for any help you might give me.There are many massage + extras places in TJ. You mileage may vary, but all these places offer full service, with ususally a poor massage.

IN ZONA NORTE

Mermaids, across the street and 1/2 block west of Adelitas.
El Campamento, one block east of Adelitas, behind La Tropa Bar.
Purple Rain, one block east, then one block north of Adelitas on Revolucion.
Real Ejecutivo, check the website with the full name http://www.realejecutivo.com

OUTSIDE ZONA NORTE

Luxxor, right next to the big Pueblo Amigo hotel, you cannot miss the hotel.
New Body Massage near Constitucion, check this forum for location
Mermaids on 8th
Cheaters on 6th

There are plenty more, but these can get you started. You can walk to the the parlors in the Zona if you are already there. Watch yourself if you are a newbie and going to El Campamento, and Purple Rain. A little danger exist off the beaten path, so keep your head on a swivel.

I would recommend talking a cab to most other places, unless you know your way around.

Smut Villain
01-13-06, 02:29
Am I the only one who noticed this?:
11-25-05:

then this:
12-05-05 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=414145&postcount=44)

and this:
12-24-05 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=419020&postcount=56)

and this:
12-25-05:

and finally this:
12-30-05 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=420523&postcount=547)

Let's see here: You claim to have been in a "relationship" with Tania for 16 months. Were you actually "with" her, or were you just trying hard for a piece anyone could buy? You then tell how you feel like you've been played by her. If I only had sex with a working girl once in 16 months, I'd feel "played" too. You then tell her it's over, and fuck off. The very next day, you ask in a post dated 12-25-05 if anyone has had an experience with her, and how was it (huh?). :confused:

Your latest post has a warning to others and a plea to get her out of HK and onto the street where she can be fucked in the ass for $20. Why do I sense a bit of a feeble attempt to get even for her not giving herself to you completely, and choosing to continue as a working girl, even though you threw a lot of money her way.

As George Carlin said: "Whoever came up with the phrase 'let the buyer beware' was probably bleeding from the asshole."

Why do I sense a bit of a stalker mentality with your posts?

I live with a SW, who plays this trucker she has never had sex with into sending her hundreds of dollars a week through Western Union. This guy literally has run out of money, and is now running up his credit cards to pay for her, and neglected his kids' college tuition. In 4 months, he's only seen her twice, but is so sure that she really loves him. Ha!

You got played, and you fucking deserved it.

Rush 2112
I was in the Navy right before the U.S. pulled out of the Phillipines. I used to see tons of sailors getting played like an X-box, and the girlies there used a lot of the same tricks you are talking about; some of the Filipinas who managed to immigrate to the U.S. are still using those same tactics. I'm so glad I saw that shit before I visited Tijuana for the first time, because (thanks to my previous experiences in Subic Bay) I immediately recognized the games..

Country John
01-16-06, 17:48
There are many massage + extras places in TJ. You mileage may vary, but all these places offer full service, with ususally a poor massage.

IN ZONA NORTE

Mermaids, across the street and 1/2 block west of Adelitas.
El Campamento, one block east of Adelitas, behind La Tropa Bar.
Purple Rain, one block east, then one block north of Adelitas on Revolucion.
Real Ejecutivo, check the website with the full name http://www.realejecutivo.com

OUTSIDE ZONA NORTE

Luxxor, right next to the big Pueblo Amigo hotel, you cannot miss the hotel.
New Body Massage near Constitucion, check this forum for location
Mermaids on 8th
Cheaters on 6th

There are plenty more, but these can get you started. You can walk to the the parlors in the Zona if you are already there. Watch yourself if you are a newbie and going to El Campamento, and Purple Rain. A little danger exist off the beaten path, so keep your head on a swivel.

I would recommend talking a cab to most other places, unless you know your way around.

Thanks B4YH. I guess the message from me is "be careful" because it's your first trip. Sticking to a high profile place close to the action is a good idea until you become familiar with the area.

Country John

QuackUp
01-17-06, 01:51
Good news, Marielos from Tropical is back. Bad news, I believe one of you guys on this board took her for the weekend so I wasn't able to see her.

I don't mind sharing my information so hopefully the person who was with her over the long weekend writes up a report on her. The reason why I think it is person on the board is because most girls in Tj won't spend the entire weekend with someone they met. As I reported a couple of months ago, Marielos spent a weekend with me in Rosarito.

So yes I was disappointed I wasn't able to see Marielos but it will be worth it, if that person shares his experience with the whole community. I would have been more dissapointed if there weren't hundreds of other chicas to turn to.

Once I learned that Marielos would not be available I needed to bust a nut. First stop the street scene. I will write more on this in the street walker section.

After my first nut I went to Caliente to recharge. You now must pay $10.00 to get in but you do get a $10 voucher. Some guys were paying the $10 then going to the cashier and getting their money back. I spent mine on some future bets.

About 16:00 I went to HK.. This is where I met Christina. A tall blond flauca. First stop the lap dance booth. She let me kiss whereever and I was able to stick my finger up her kitty. As soon as the lap dance was over, off to the hotel. At the hotel much more hot passionate kissing, plenty of daty and a whole lot of fun. The only mark against her was she gave a cbj. It wasn't bad but I prefer bbbj. Overall, great service. I left a happy camper. Bad news, she told me this Wednesday she is leaving for home for about 1 month. She lives in Monterrey.

I then went to have dinner, then to the Tropical. Here I met Angela. She is a big girl. Not fat but well proportioned and big tits. She gave me a smile and I bought her a drink. Things went well so I asked her up.

In the room I tried to kiss her. At first she was a little reluctant. I then daty and she loved it so much, she started to dfk me. Usually when you daty on these chicas they won't let you kiss them because they don't want to taste their own juice, so it was a good surprise when she started to kiss me.

She then gave me a cbj, again nothing bad nothing great. Started cg. then mish and finished doggie. Another satisfying session.

Both girls did not ask for money upfront, none rushed the session as we got the knock on both sessions. No, they did not squirt like Marielos but they were very good sessions.

Q

Ps. Cj, if you are reading this, thanks for the hotel recommendation but I will wait until I see Marielos again to try it.

Ump1969
01-18-06, 23:04
I just had to reply to a couple of recent posters. I'm surprised someone has not already. Let's be realistic about what we have here. We are horny and want sex. We go to Tijuana because it is supposed to be cheap and easy. The girls are there to make money. Does anyone out there believe that the girls are hanging out in dirty alleys or prostutute bars in cheap clothing in hopes of falling in love with a rich American? Would a girl want to fall in love with a guy hanging out in these bars? Just because theyspeak a fireign language does not make them all totally stupid.

So I want to respond to the poster that said he could not stomach the idea of picking up a girls that had been banging too many fat, balding sweaty guys. Just what does he think they do for a living? Do they get cleaner if he picks them up at a time when the bar is less crowded? They're prostitutes, man! I'm not knocking them- just saying that unless you are one of the rare dudes to get a novice, then guess what, you get a girl that has been with other guys.

Then I want to respond to the guys bitching about prices. Welcome to the real world of capitalism. If you don't like it, don't go. Frankly, I have never had the kind of problems that some of these guys are griping about. I do know that it often makes a difference when the girls are treated with sone kindness, at least it has worked for me. You are going to pay a bit more for the better lookers. Why? Because this is what they can get. If you say no, they'll get it from some other sucker. Girls more in demand get more money. These girls are in business. Are they supposed to charge you less because you're an American expecting cheap Mexican pussy? Get over it! There are tons of girls in Tijuana. If one charges too much, smile, say "no gracias", and move on.

You claim that these girls are getting too close to American prices? Fine, go back to the US. Pick up some cheap ***** on the street. Pray that she is not part of an LE sting. Do it in the back seat of a car, hoping LE does not catch you in the middle of the act. Pray she doesn't grab your money and run off, or pull a knife. Pray her pimp doesn't show up and demand your wallet. Or you can always overpay for an American hotel, hoping that she won't lead you into an LE sting, run out of the room with your money, lead you into a room with a couple of dudes ready to rob you. Then if none of the above happens to you, hope she doesn't pull on your sick for 5 minutes and then say it is time to go. A hundred other guys could pipe in now with their horror stories from hunting in America. For the time being, I'll stick with Tijuana. Most of the experiences I have had surpass most American experiences. No, they were not 100% satisfactory. But if I were a betting man, my money is on Tijuana for a satisfactory experience at cheap prices.

Desert Monger
01-20-06, 07:25
Right on Hump! Put me down for a "ditto"!

Gilgamesh
01-20-06, 19:39
I live in L.A. and I've seen many working women, but I've never taken the risk. Why, because of L.E. and the prices to quality ratio. I've been with several of the hotties in AB and a few really cute women on the street. I'm happy I can drive to T.J. The few experiences with polica have sucked and cost me some cash, but not the amount of court, lawyers, and fines. I've only had a few hotties that I'd rather had picked someone else, but that's just how it is. I need to remember names and details. I'll be mongering in other countries hopefully in 2006/2007, because of the pics and reports of many members here. I hope to contribute more in the coming months.
P.S. When does AB pick up again? Valentines Day :))

Travelin Pervert
01-21-06, 15:31
Hello to all you fellow perv's. Ill be heading to Tijuana the last week of may for a sex filled 10 day's. I've been reading the reports and thanks for the all the info. Anyone have the skinny on where to find the hottest 18-19-20 yr old chica's, ( clubs, street walkers, escorts). Im only looking for very fine chica's. Ugly's and so-so's are not on my agenda. Us gringo's know how hard it is to bang a teenie in the states. Im 35 and my plan is to knock the bottom out of many a fine teenie babe's while in TJ.
I've already found about 3 good escort websites in TJ, but the selection is limited for what Im looking for. Any one know of a good site or have a number for escorts. Im more interested in escorts coming to my room but I will not ignore the clubs and sw's. Any and all info will be helpful, and Ill be sending info and pics upon my return.... thanks, Travelin Pervert

Double
01-21-06, 18:37
Travllin P,
I would try Adelitas, Chicago, and Tropical. Between the three clubs you can easily find an 8+. The escort sites have not really gotten the better looking ladies yet. If you are going to be in town for 10 days you may even try hitting one of the clubs that the local TJ chicks go to. Tijauna has some beautiful civilians.

RE UMP,
I had a conversation with one of the street girls while in the room some time back. She said that she had been in TJ for just over one year. She said that she had been with so many men that she could not even remember any more. She also said that she was so overwhelmed by the experience that she could not have an orgasm, and she doubted that she could cum even if she masturbated which she does not do. She also put the number of men that she had slept with in the year long period at over 1500. For a street girl, sleeping with 1500 men at $30 is barely $45000. Not much of a reward for having to put out that much pussy.
I also met a chick at the Tropical that said that she started at Adelitas. She was funny. She said that all the big dicked men go to Adelitas. She said that she was getting plowed so much and so hard, she felt that it was up in her stomach many times. She said that it was not good for her p****, so she moved to the Tropical. She does not work as much in the room, and makes much less, but she said that she could not take it at Adelitas any longer.
You are right. These are prostitutes, and selling the nana to whoever has the money and wants it is what the do for a living. Guys no monger is special to these ladies. Many of these ladies actually hate the men that pay them. It is like a heroin addict that loves the drug, and the high, but hate what it does to there life. She loves the money but hates what she is doing for it.
Fellas, the next time you get that warm a fuzzy feeling, that tells you she is special or that uptight feeling that tells you that you are not like the rest of the boys, ask her how long she has been working. If she has been there for a year or more it is likely that she has been with hundreds of seedy ***** mongers. Many of which you would not invite over for dinner. Then pay her and go upstairs and reveille in that nana.
If they keep sellin it, somebody has to keep buying it.

Lascivious
01-21-06, 21:24
Travelin-
I would agree with Double about the escorts, bars and local scene. I seem to find most of my young hotties in the “alley” behind Adelitas, (it’s not some dark alley; it’s a small, well lit street). They seem to be a much better bargain at first blush but they up-sell the shit out of you, making them nearly as expensive as the bar girls. Make sure you negotiate every little detail with them before you go up. (Sin Ropas: without clothes, multiple positions, suckie , fuckie, etc.)

There is also a bar in the alley called Hong Kong. The girls are hit and miss but it’s a great place to relax and have a beer. They just remodeled and it’s pretty nice.

Just as another possibility, since you will be having an extended stay, you might want to try Luxor. It’s a massage place. I went in a while back, at a cabbies insistence, and they had some good looking chicas. I did not partake but they were pretty good looking, albeit somewhat expensive. And as you have probably read, stay away from the Revolution clubs. Just my two cents. Happy hunting.

California Guy
01-22-06, 01:21
If you want more of a GFE experience then try the escorts. If you want a girl that will count sheep while you are on top of her then it is a toss up between the street and bar girls but I think street wins out for lamest screw. Honestly you could dig a hole in the sand at one our great beaches and have a better time than with some of these girls :) That being said there are a few around that will treat you good though so hopefully you find a decent one, don't over-pay either because you won't be happy with losing the extra cash.

Adventur
01-22-06, 04:41
I agree with UMP 1969.

Simple, hot, chicas and realistic expectations.

Only thing to add is that SGs will offer much better service if you are some sort of a 'regular' ie you do not screw their neighbours in front of them.

I have had 20$ sin ropas, todos and 30 $ for 2 sessions etc. so my suggestions are

1. do not push the price up
2. be nice to them (they can be very nice to you)
3. do not insult them.
4. be consistant (in not doing otras around them)

Buena suerte! (good luck)

Dirty Dog
01-22-06, 13:09
I'am about to make my first trip to TJ in 2 weeks. Does most of the clubs there have onsite rooms? I'am looking for a fairly decent place where I could have my fun and at least wash up afterwards.

Lulu Pussy
01-22-06, 18:13
Had a quick stop in TJ Thurs. Had the cab drop me outside Chicago Club, but before going in, decided to first take a look at the street scene, as recent reports had pegged things as rather dead.

The street from CC to the alley only had a couple girls (the time was about 7pm), but the alley was very well stocked.

Decided to warm up in HK. When I went in, the place was in full swing. Not packed, but full. Only a couple open stools at the stage.

HK is great fun for those of you who haven't ventured in yet. Not a lot a strip bars in the US where you can diddle a strippers Lulu for a buck.

One of the strippers who had the right attitude was named Carol. After her dance I asked a waiter to find her for me. We sat for a bit, then upstairs for a lap dance with lots of DATY, then over to the hotel.

I always prefer BB FS or at least CIM, but she wasn't up for that. Started and finished with BBBJ (finishing on her tits) with a long session of hitting the Lulu inbetween.

Nice girl, nice smile, attitude, body, and a lot more comfortable than the CC or AB scene.

Longer Monger
01-23-06, 02:23
Gentlemen,

Been to TJ once 5 years ago or so and had a nice experience with an AB chica. I am heading there again in a few weeks and had a couple of questions for the experts:

- Want to see if I can swing some sexo en culo. What is my best approach to getting that in TJ?

- Certain bars best or street?

- Is it ok to just ask a girl and if she says know, ask who does that? How do I ask "which girls do that"?

- Is sexo en culo the right way to ask for it?

- What should I expect to pay?

- I notice in the reports a lot of switching positions, what is that all about? Do you all just like variety or is it a TJ thing? Seems like a lot of switching for a few minutes.

- I think I'd like to do some stripper groping or dirty dancin first. HK a good place for one or both so I don't have to leave ZN?

Muchas Gracias.

LM

Longer Monger
01-23-06, 13:11
Guys,

I visited TJ once about five years ago and will have a chance to return in a few weeks. Have been following the board, but wanted to ask a couple of questions:

- What is your advice on how to get culo? Where to go, how to ask, what to pay?

- Where is the best place in the Zona to grope some strippers?

- Why are you guys always going through so many positions with the chicas? Is it some TJ tradition to go through 5 positions in 15 minutes?

Thanks for the help.

LM

Country John
01-24-06, 01:57
Guys,

I visited TJ once about five years ago and will have a chance to return in a few weeks. Have been following the board, but wanted to ask a couple of questions:

- What is your advice on how to get culo? Where to go, how to ask, what to pay?

Just come right out with it to the girl. Business is business. It will bear a premuim to the standard cost. Some guys have paid $20. to $30 extra. Not all girls will go for it, but you won't have to have very many interviews to find one who will. Be patient and talk to the girls. If the girl you're talking to comes back "no" then ask her who will go.




- Where is the best place in the Zona to grope some strippers?

Hong Kong Bar.


Why are you guys always going through so many positions with the chicas? Is it some TJ tradition to go through 5 positions in 15 minutes?

I can only speculate, but probably they want a ride on top of busting a nut. Besides it's fun.

Now go have some and post!! Good luck!

Country John

Country John
01-24-06, 02:22
I just had to reply to a couple of recent posters. I'm surprised someone has not already. Let's be realistic about what we have here. We are horny and want sex. We go to Tijuana because it is supposed to be cheap and easy. The girls are there to make money. Does anyone out there believe that the girls are hanging out in dirty alleys or prostutute bars in cheap clothing in hopes of falling in love with a rich American? Would a girl want to fall in love with a guy hanging out in these bars? Just because theyspeak a fireign language does not make them all totally stupid.

So I want to respond to the poster that said he could not stomach the idea of picking up a girls that had been banging too many fat, balding sweaty guys. Just what does he think they do for a living? Do they get cleaner if he picks them up at a time when the bar is less crowded? They're prostitutes, man! I'm not knocking them- just saying that unless you are one of the rare dudes to get a novice, then guess what, you get a girl that has been with other guys.

Then I want to respond to the guys bitching about prices. Welcome to the real world of capitalism. If you don't like it, don't go. Frankly, I have never had the kind of problems that some of these guys are griping about. I do know that it often makes a difference when the girls are treated with sone kindness, at least it has worked for me. You are going to pay a bit more for the better lookers. Why? Because this is what they can get. If you say no, they'll get it from some other sucker. Girls more in demand get more money. These girls are in business. Are they supposed to charge you less because you're an American expecting cheap Mexican pussy? Get over it! There are tons of girls in Tijuana. If one charges too much, smile, say "no gracias", and move on.

You claim that these girls are getting too close to American prices? Fine, go back to the US. Pick up some cheap ***** on the street. Pray that she is not part of an LE sting. Do it in the back seat of a car, hoping LE does not catch you in the middle of the act. Pray she doesn't grab your money and run off, or pull a knife. Pray her pimp doesn't show up and demand your wallet. Or you can always overpay for an American hotel, hoping that she won't lead you into an LE sting, run out of the room with your money, lead you into a room with a couple of dudes ready to rob you. Then if none of the above happens to you, hope she doesn't pull on your sick for 5 minutes and then say it is time to go. A hundred other guys could pipe in now with their horror stories from hunting in America. For the time being, I'll stick with Tijuana. Most of the experiences I have had surpass most American experiences. No, they were not 100% satisfactory. But if I were a betting man, my money is on Tijuana for a satisfactory experience at cheap prices.


Well, yes, yes, no, yes and yes. Good post. There is a reality that mongers must wrap their mind around. The above points are very well stated. Let me add a snippit.

The girls and the clubs in the Zona know why you are there before you go. They know you have about between $200 and $300 and the game is to get it from you. You might get laid in the process if you know what you're doing.

When you are there, you are playing their game. It's not the other way around. Your (meaning any monger) trip report is merely a written record of how well or how poorly you did playing their game against them playing you.

Yes, perhaps a chica liked you enough to session you for less than you expected to pay but she still ended up with your money. You walked away with a session that 99% of the time was less than a GFE, sometimes lots less.

The entire block is designed to separate you from your money, kinda like Vegas. I know a lot of girls in the Zona. Some are very cool ladies, others I would not trust for a minute. Yes, they session for a living. They make money through P R O S T I T U T I O N. But it is we who buy.

The girls don't hold your past against you, don't hold anything against them (except yourself of course).

Most working girls in the Zona already have husbands or BF's. IN some cases, the guys are watching over the girls as they work. A very small number are looking for Mr. Right. Many have as their immediate problem MONEY which is why they are there although some actually enjoy their work.

If you're looking for a woman in the Zona then you want to visit one of the "locals" clubs. Plenty of girls there looking for Mr. Right. Plenty of girls all over Mexico looking for a gringo to save them. I could go on for hours about it.

I often negitiated my girls down after sessioning them at their asking price. Just make the session run well and be nice. They'll look for you and you'll find them willing to go for less if you treat them right (like human beings for example). Remember that one very large problem for the girls is that they have no idea who you are. They don;t know if you're safe to be alone with or not. Call it an occupational hazard if you like but girls have been murdered in the bed. So they are looking at you too.

Some go to the Zona for a fast glam slam and then they get the hell out of there. Others go to find a cool chica that they can snuggle up to and have a great session. Maybe even a TLN. They're out there and your attitude counts big-time.

If you're not into paying for sex then of course you should not concern yourself with any of this.

Couuntry John

Double
01-24-06, 04:57
To ask for anal I believe the question is "haces sexo anal?" or " cuanto seria por sexo anal? "

That should do the trick. I would not being with that question. Remember, this is not a common practice with most ladies so it may cost quite a bit more.

Gropinator
01-24-06, 21:20
CJ,

Can you suggest some safe clubs for "local" freebies to be had?

Coquí
01-24-06, 22:47
Gropinator:

Along the Revolucion street there are many bars. Most of them are for tourist but at the south end of the Revolucion (west side) there is a club called "Las Pulgas". It is the place where locals go. There are different areas where different music is played. For local girls, "Las Pulgas" is the place. If you get as far as the Jai Alai you went too far. It is approx 1/2 a block north and across the street from the Jai-Alai

Good luck and happy huntings....

Rabo Verde
01-25-06, 19:04
There is a brand new clean hotel with cable and a little kitchenette, $38 a night single or double, covered guarded parking, a block from Adelitas/Chicago. It is on Coahuila, the same street as Adelita Bar, on the next block, across from the Tropa Bar. Visitor friendly, highly recommend.

Hotel Hacienda de Santiago
Coahuila 8168
Tel. 685-4646, 685-7598, or 685-6386

California Guy
01-26-06, 06:20
Man TJ is sucking! I know it is Tuesday but I have been on a Tuesday, even a Monday, where it was 10x better! Hit HK first and there were about 15 girls working, 5 which were even worthy of payment. I mean 3 were 7s and 8s but I wouldn't do 10 of these girls for free in the US, don't want to sound mean but maybe they just weren't my type? I also noticed as I was sitting by the main stage that 5 of 6 girls who danced while I was there had C-sections, is this a common practice in Mexico? Well I met some gringo and hung out which was sadly the funnest part of HK LOL, and I'm not a homo either :) We just chilled and had some beers, he was a full newbie so it was funny watching him react. We ended up walking over to AB, the streets were empty, and even AB was bad! I was telling this guy how many great looking girls were there and when we walked in I was amazed to see so few. In fact there were just not many girls and probably a 2-1 guy to girl ratio which was very noticable. He picked up some girl but I wasn't impressed so I walked back to HK before I was going home. I found one of the girls I had done before and she was fun so I figured I would see how much fun I could have. Needless to say it was horrible! She was kind of lit up, seemed almost like she was high on something, so was basically half awake. I like her as a person but I won't session with her again, in fact I am not sure whats up with TJ anymore because it seems to get worse by the day. Oh well I may try again and then if it is just bad I'm not wasting the money, although I may try one of the escorts down there and see if they are good. It sucks though because I do like TJ in terms of decent rates and some hot girls but maybe it isn't my game as much as others. Plus I am going to Brazil soon and those are the girls I really dream about :) best save my money for my fun lol.

Take care!

Cali

night owl
01-27-06, 12:47
Best place to grope strippers would have to be Peanuts. I go there on Fridays and Saturdays and see one named Fierrari. She may still be there, just ask the guys out front. On the stage, she literally let you DATY her if you put a dollar in your mouth and lay on stage. In private, there is nothing she won't do.


Just come right out with it to the girl. Business is business. It will bear a premuim to the standard cost. Some guys have paid $20. to $30 extra. Not all girls will go for it, but you won't have to have very many interviews to find one who will. Be patient and talk to the girls. If the girl you're talking to comes back "no" then ask her who will go.

Hong Kong Bar.

I can only speculate, but probably they want a ride on top of busting a nut. Besides it's fun.

Now go have some and post!! Good luck!

Country John

Lucky_Manuelo
01-28-06, 07:23
I was so hoping to meet Guadalupe on my recent visit to Tijuana. There has been so many wonderful reports on this young woman, and I have been so impressed by what you have all written, that I feel it is a pity that I shall not have the opportunity of spending some quality time with this legendary sex provider before leaving for the dark continent. Pity, yes.

I understand Guadalupe vacations on the sunny coast of Central Mexico; Jalisco, I believe, in that sleepy fishing village of Acapulco. Hmmm, now I wonder if this is a working vacation, or does she rest, relax, and revitalize herself for the coming year of hard work -yes, it's hard work- bach on the streets of Zona Norte. Sad, I should be leaving without 'getting lucky' with Lupe. For as we all know by now, I'm Lucky, Lucky Manuelo.

Cheers, all.

P.S. T, Baja, Rocket, Wasabi, Fargo, Felix the Car, all my love, never change. Sometimes all we have left is the shadow of her smile.

Lucky_Manuelo
01-28-06, 07:30
I was so hoping to meet Guadalupe on my recent visit to Tijuana. There has been so many wonderful reports on this young woman, and I have been so impressed by what you have all written, that I feel it is a pity that I shall not have the opportunity of spending some quality time with this legendary sex provider before leaving for the dark continent. Pity, yes.

I understand Guadalupe vacations on the sunny coast of Central Mexico; Jalisco, I believe, in that sleepy fishing village of Acapulco. Hmmm, now I wonder if this is a working vacation, or does she rest, relax, and revitalize herself for the coming year of hard work -yes, it's hard work- bach on the streets of Zona Norte. Sad, I should be leaving without 'getting lucky' with Lupe. For as we all know by now, I'm Lucky, Lucky Manuelo.

Cheers, all.

P.S. T, Baja, Rocket, Wasabi, Fargo, Felix the Car, all my love, never change. Sometimes all we have left is the shadow of her smile.

Texasrob2005
01-30-06, 18:43
So I just got in town for the first time and went across the boarder. I jumped in a cab and asked him to take me to the local places. He takes me to Purple Rain first, hot girls about 12 to choose from but they wanted $85 for FS. I don't know but in Texas that's a lot of money.

I ask him to take me to another place and he takes me to some spa with like 4 girls, not my taste at all. Maybe i'm spoiled but i'm use to Boy's Towns like in Laredo where you drive into a huge compound and the only thing you can see is women all over the place.

Is there anything like that in TJ or i'm I just lost. Are there any places where there are just women all over the place and brothels right next to each other?

Please help, I need to jump over there tonight.

Ocho Monger
01-30-06, 21:23
Purple Rain and other massage places give cabbies a cut on every customer they bring in.

Other people may like those places, but I sure don't. Im am Adelitas monger, there's plenty of choices. Ya you may not get your GFE there, but the whole point is having fun and bustin that nut.

Mondays are kinda slow in most places, but if you gotta go somewhere, its adelitas at night for a Monday nite.

Rabo Verde
01-30-06, 22:22
TEXAS go directly to Adelitas, $5 cab ride from the border.
Just say ADELITAS to the taxi guy, and don't let him talk you into anywhere else.

Bad4URHeart
01-31-06, 02:08
i also noticed as i was sitting by the main stage that 5 of 6 girls who danced while i was there had c-sections, is this a common practice in mexico? cesarean sections (c-section) are very common in mexico. mexicos rate for c-sections is the highest in the world, and within some states its as high as 68% (queretaro ). it is especially prevalent amongst working girls. you can cover up a c-section scar, but there is very little you can do about loose pussy. plus it lets them get back to work faster.

tj is a little down still from the holidays, but it is getting back to full speed pretty quickly. hk was the best i had seen it in some time this past thursday. ab will continue to suck for another couple weeks, or until the construction gets completed.

Double
01-31-06, 05:01
Once you get to Adelitas there are a few of spots to look in on. One is the Chicago, the other is the Tropical which is just across the street from Adelitas, and you may want to walk around to the alley just behind Adelitas where you will find the street girls all standing outside, the Hong Kong strip club is also back there.

The street girls in the area are a bargain at $20. Be sure to mention all that you want to take place in the room to the best of your ability. It is likely that you will pay closer to $30 once they add in for a change of position or a full nude session. If you just want straight missionary - $20.

Be carefull not to get involved with the English speaking hustlers down there. I am not speaking of mongers that you may meet in one of the clubs. I am speaking of the street types that are out to sell you services that are free. A good example is, sometimes there are guys standing around that want to be the go between when you are attempting to speak to the street chicks. I would stay away from the massage parlors, and the solicitors that try to take you to the massage parlors also.

Anyways, I am sure that you can handle yourself just fine.

Stick and move. Have a good time.

D

Texasrob2005
01-31-06, 07:25
I know that the border towns in Texas are very dangerous right now. How safe is it to walk around in a dark alley behind a building to fing SW?

I am going to venture out tomorrow night and see what I can find.

Why does no one talk about Purple Rain? I went into it, is very expensive but the girls seems nice. just wondering.

Village Chief
01-31-06, 09:29
I would stay away from the massage parlors, and the solicitors that try to take you to the massage parlors also.

DI agree with Double. The massage parlors in TJ are not worth what you are paying for. You end up paying 100 to 150 dollars for the same service you get for 60 dollars in Adelitas. The girls in Purple Rain do not know how to massage and too lazy to do it for you, even their FS skills are not that great. I did a couple of them and decided never to go back again. They might look nice downstairs but once you are up there with them, they are hard negotiators to get you pay 120 dollars. That is already 160 dollars with the 40 up front.

Stay away from Purple Rain! And do not walk back to Adelitas from Purple Rain at night, that street is dangerous. A lot of drug dealers and even worse, he Policia. I got shaken down by the policia once.

I really enjoy a good massage before any actions, anyone knows any good massage places in TJ or San Diego? Truly appreciate it if you can give me some info. Country John once mentioned Mermaid in TJ, I have not been able to find it yet.

Stay safe. I also would like to meet some fellow hobbists if you are interested. Security in numbers!

VC

TweedleD
01-31-06, 09:59
Sometimes you feel like a nut, And then other times you just get your nut.Monday nite hit TJ with a clear purpose, quickly bag some sweet young thing and haul ass home,Mission accomplished! Todo des nuda,boca con condon y mish.20por chica 4 cabs each way 3tacos 5 for the room. I guess that adds up to $36.00 You really do get your best value sun through thursdays.Oh yeah and did I mention that she was a 22 year old hard body that really enjoyed her work!

Pumphernickel
01-31-06, 23:08
Check out the Photo Gallery thread for TJ. On the 1st page Bad4URHeart has two maps of Zona Norte. Shows most of the bars, areas where the street girls mostly hang out, a few restaurants and where the transvestites are so you don't wander in by mistake - unless you're into that. Happy hunting.

Bad4URHeart
02-01-06, 02:34
I know that the border towns in Texas are very dangerous right now. How safe is it to walk around in a dark alley behind a building to fing SW?

I am going to venture out tomorrow night and see what I can find.

Why does no one talk about Purple Rain? I went into it, is very expensive but the girls seems nice. just wondering.Tijuana is relatively safe if you stay on the beaten path. That path would be Calle Coahuila between Ninos Heros and Constitucion (the street that Adelitas is on), Constitucion between Articulo 123 and Calle Coahuila (and a little bit far north to Chicago Club), and Callejon Coahuila (the alley). I posted a map in December 2005 if you need to see the streets in context.

Anywhere else in the zona and you increase your risk. I have never had any problems (other than the rare policia run-ins, all uneventful) and I venture out much futher than mentioned above.

If you are a more cautious person then I am, then don't go anywhere that is not well lit, or where you don't see many other Americanos.

Bad4URHeart
02-01-06, 02:48
I really enjoy a good massage before any actions, anyone knows any good massage places in TJ or San Diego? Truly appreciate it if you can give me some info. Country John once mentioned Mermaid in TJ, I have not been able to find it yet.I am assuming you mean legit massage. If not, then I made a post earlier this month that points out some of the better "extras" massage parlors in the zona.

For legit massage there are two really good choices.

1. Aztec Massage

On 2nd street, just south of the Tijuana Arch on 2nd street. 100 paces West of Revolucion.

2. VivaMex Day Spa

On Revolucion, between 3rd and 4th street
http://www.vivamexspa.com/indexxx.html

Both are less than a half mile away from the Zona Norte. IIRC, a 1hr massage is in the $35 range, and has always been very good for me. These places are legit, and offer no extras.

Double
02-01-06, 06:53
The reason that nobody speaks about the Purple Rain is because you can get better quality ladies for less at Adelitas, Chicago, Tropical, and in the alley. The one square block around Adelitas is fairly safe.

Yes, you can walk in the alley with few problems.

The alley is not dark, it is well lit, and there are normally lots of other American mongers, and people wandering around also. As was mentioned by another of the previous posters, the police, and the drug dealers are to be avoided. You will be able to see the people to avoid.

Just a heads up, if you see a patty wagon parked or on the move go inside one of the clubs and have a drink. The boys with a badge are normally doing their shake downs when you see the van out on the move. Also, you may not posses Viagra without a perscription from a Mexican doctor, so if you buy some, make sure that you take it before leaving the pharmacia.

D

Maltrufio
02-01-06, 22:52
I hopped a cab back to the border the other night and there were two young cops waiting right at the taxi drop off. They were both very polite, cordial, and spoke good english (continued to speak english even after I answered all their questions in spanish). They asked me to empty my pockets of everything and one of them patted me down. I had my left over cash in my front pocket, took it out, stacked it with my wallet and car keys on top of a garbage can and neither one touched it or asked for any of it. It seems they may be feeling the heat from the gov't for fucking with tourists. I think they were looking for prescription drugs so if you're going to be a dumbass and try to get some out of TJ, best put it in your shoe.

Texasrob2005
02-02-06, 10:15
So I must tell everyone in this forum thank you for helping a guy out from Texas. I just got back a few hours ago from TJ, Aditats. And all I can say is WOW! I walk in and it's PACKED, there are probably about 40 girls in there.

I buy about three girls drinks to figure out who I want to take up, great move on my part because you can tell alot from just talking for a few min's. So the third girl I talk up is the one I get it with. I forgot her name but all I can say is WOW. He is about 5-10, wears some really crazy stuff, has a tribal tattoo on her right shoulder, pierced tongue, blonde hair extensoins, WILD AS SHIT. She right off the bat tells me $50 and I don't try to push it down.

We go up to the room, this girl got REALLY WET. I'm thinking that she must have put some water up inside herself and let it go. I've heard about a lot of girls pulling these kinds of tricks to make the guy think he's just gotten her SO wet. Before she even started I felt a big wet spot on the bed. Either way it was nice. She has big ass REAL tit's, she's a little thick but not bad at all. I was a little worried about getting one of hte REALLT hot girls because sometimes their service is not as good because they know they are really hot.

Either way, tonight was my last night and I sure do hope I would have found this place my first night in San Diego. Either way, I'm coming back if it's just to come check this place out again. I've been all over the world and I must say this was UN REAL! You all here have a true gem.

Country John
02-03-06, 06:43
The reason that nobody speaks about the Purple Rain is because you can get better quality ladies for less at Adelitas, Chicago, Tropical, and in the alley. The one square block around Adelitas is fairly safe.

Yes, you can walk in the alley with few problems.

The alley is not dark, it is well lit, and there are normally lots of other American mongers, and people wandering around also. As was mentioned by another of the previous posters, the police, and the drug dealers are to be avoided. You will be able to see the people to avoid.

Just a heads up, if you see a patty wagon parked or on the move go inside one of the clubs and have a drink. The boys with a badge are normally doing their shake downs when you see the van out on the move. Also, you may not posses Viagra without a perscription from a Mexican doctor, so if you buy some, make sure that you take it before leaving the pharmacia.

D

It is not illegal to possess medication to treat erectile dysfunction without a prescription in Mexico. Viagra is NOT ON THE LIST OF CONTROLLED MEDICATIONS in Mexico. The cops have no legal right to hassle you. It is a problem bringing it back to the USA without a prescription.

All too often unwary gringos are heated up because they have medication for the treatment of erectile dysfunction. They had over the meds and pay a "fine" to the cop (mordita). It is not necessary to do this my friends. So stop doing it. And stop worrying about it.

The raids are to round up the rateros in the street. The druggies and robbers and criminals. The bad girls and boys who rip mongers off etc. The raids are not designed to get the gringos. Quite the contrary. If you are trolling the Zona and are MOVING ALONG you will not get stopped unless you dress like a gangster and behave like an asshole.

The Zona is there for YOU. Enjoy but don't be stoopid and don't be intimidated because you have medication for the treatment of erectile dysfunction, a substance that IS NOT ON THE LIST OF CONTROLLED MEDICATIONS in Mexico, and for which a prescription is NOT REQUIRED
under Mexican Law. I will post the approptiate link as an edit to theis post.

Be safe and Be Nice.
Country John

Here is where you will find the complete list of Controlled Medications in Mexico:

http://www.cofepris.gob.mx/pyp/estpsic/es.htm

Nevermore
02-04-06, 11:19
I hopped a cab back to the border the other night and there were two young cops waiting right at the taxi drop off. They were both very polite, cordial, and spoke good english (continued to speak english even after I answered all their questions in spanish). They asked me to empty my pockets of everything and one of them patted me down. I had my left over cash in my front pocket, took it out, stacked it with my wallet and car keys on top of a garbage can and neither one touched it or asked for any of it. It seems they may be feeling the heat from the gov't for fucking with tourists. I think they were looking for prescription drugs so if you're going to be a dumbass and try to get some out of TJ, best put it in your shoe.When the cops patted me down, they searched inside my shoes, inside every pocket and in the crevices of my wallet, which is where I had a Viagra pill. So there is no safe place to hide it from them except for maybe your crotch.

Country John
02-05-06, 04:40
When the cops patted me down, they searched inside my shoes, inside every pocket and in the crevices of my wallet, which is where I had a Viagra pill. So there is no safe place to hide it from them except for maybe your crotch.

Look down a few posts and READ. You do not have to HIDE viagra from Mexican police.

Country John

Double
02-05-06, 07:14
i must respectfully disagree with you on the matter of police activity. i think that ideally the police are out to get the bad guys, however in tj i have personally had drugs planted on me by the police, and an accomplice. i have had them search me on 3 different occasions for no reason, just speed up in the van and yell hey you. i do not drink, i have never been in a fight, i am respectfull-this considering that i am mongering, i keep a low profile, and i don't dress like a "gangster". i am an average looking clean cut guy.

mexican police use there position to make money. they make a large piece of their salaries by extorting it from tourist. yes, one can say "no", and insist on seeing a judge, but how often does that actually work. in addition, in the case of the police all of a sudden finding drugs at your feet on the ground, what is the watch command going to say? are they just going to side with the tourist? i am not the only one that has been in this situation in tj. they are all in it together. i do not believe there is an honest cop in the whole city, especially in the zona. corruption in mexico is a way of life.

any tourist that feels that they are above or beyond the possibility of police harassment in tj must be very well connected in tj. if you are not, then the likelihood of you being in the possession of any sort of drug, be it beyer aspirin or any other kind of drug and not encountering some sort of problem is slim.

any monger that reads this board should error on the side of caution in mexico, do not be a cowboy, it is not your range.

John Rain
02-05-06, 17:09
Country John once mentioned Mermaid in TJ, I have not been able to find it yet.

VCJust FYI, Mermaids Bar / Message Parlor is dirctly across from Las Chavelas and Adelita Bar.

(As CJ mentioned here: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=423742#post423742 )

Here's a photo.

Had a couple drinks here and watched the floor sho, but never took a girl for message / sex.

Mike

Country John
02-05-06, 19:16
i must respectfully disagree with you on the matter of police activity. i think that ideally the police are out to get the bad guys, however in tj i have personally had drugs planted on me by the police, and an accomplice. i have had them search me on 3 different occasions for no reason, just speed up in the van and yell hey you. i do not drink, i have never been in a fight, i am respectfull-this considering that i am mongering, i keep a low profile, and i don't dress like a "gangster". i am an average looking clean cut guy.

mexican police use there position to make money. they make a large piece of their salaries by extorting it from tourist. yes, one can say "no", and insist on seeing a judge, but how often does that actually work. in addition, in the case of the police all of a sudden finding drugs at your feet on the ground, what is the watch command going to say? are they just going to side with the tourist? i am not the only one that has been in this situation in tj. they are all in it together. i do not believe there is an honest cop in the whole city, especially in the zona. corruption in mexico is a way of life.

any tourist that feels that they are above or beyond the possibility of police harassment in tj must be very well connected in tj. if you are not, then the likelihood of you being in the possession of any sort of drug, be it beyer aspirin or any other kind of drug and not encountering some sort of problem is slim.

any monger that reads this board should error on the side of caution in mexico, do not be a cowboy, it is not your range.

yes, police corruption is a problem. i've stood my ground many times and won. the cops know they are taking a chance, some are more convincing than others but they are all wrong and if you have the time you can handle the problem. that's my own personal experience, yours might be different. i understand. i learned a lot sincei moved here.

perhaps if you have a few positive experiences you'll know what i mean. in the meantime you are right to err on the side of caution but you should never pay.

country john

Biggfeller
02-05-06, 20:08
Was supposed to head to TJ today with a friend but something came up and he is a no show.

Was really looking forward to my first time there and just curious as to safety, etc on a solo trip. Would I be better off making arangements with one of the services? I am still up for the day trip.

Appreciate any thoughts.

Thanks

Pico1972
02-06-06, 05:29
Just FYI, Mermaids Bar / Message Parlor is dirctly across from Las Chavelas and Adelita Bar.

(As CJ mentioned here: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=423742#post423742 )

Here's a photo.

Had a couple drinks here and watched the floor sho, but never took a girl for message / sex.

MikeI was in TJ Friday and went to Mermaids after I left Adelitas dissapointed at the quality that was there. No one really tempting enough. Mermaids has some OK girls with 1 or 2 girls being the best. The waiter told me that you can have FS with them for at least $100. More than Adelitas but Adelitas has more to select from. Has anyone paid this much at Mermaids? I dont understand why they are asking for this much when they are competing with Adelitas whi is a giant in the Zona.

Country John
02-06-06, 09:53
Was supposed to head to TJ today with a friend but something came up and he is a no show.

Was really looking forward to my first time there and just curious as to safety, etc on a solo trip. Would I be better off making arangements with one of the services? I am still up for the day trip.

Appreciate any thoughts.

Thanks

My advice is to go during the day if you are going solo and are making your first run.

My girl and I were talking about helping out noobies on their first run in exchange for our drinks, but we never got to the other side of it.

If you go with someone experienced then nite time is cool. If you insist on going alone, take a taxi from the border and back afterwards but don;t have anything illegal on you because the cops might search you if you return late and get dropped off where they congregate. No need to be paranoid but there is every reason to be smart and be safe.

The other thing you must do is read Brockton O'tools guide. It is REQUIRED READING especially for first timers.

Country John

Bad4URHeart
02-07-06, 02:36
I was in TJ Friday and went to Mermaids after I left Adelitas dissapointed at the quality that was there. No one really tempting enough. Mermaids has some OK girls with 1 or 2 girls being the best. The waiter told me that you can have FS with them for at least $100. More than Adelitas but Adelitas has more to select from. Has anyone paid this much at Mermaids? I dont understand why they are asking for this much when they are competing with Adelitas whi is a giant in the Zona.

The simple answer is at Mermaids you get 1 hour with the girl. At Adelitas you only get 30 minutes for your $60 + $11.

The quote from most "extras" massages places will be $40 for the hour, plus $100-$120 for the girl. You can usually get the girls down to $80-$100. Some places will offer a package deal of $100-$120 for everything, but then they try to limit the time or the girl may limit your activities.

On non-peak days you can usually get a better deal at Adelitas or Chicago Club. I have had 1 hour sessions for $80 + $22 for the room.

John Rain
02-07-06, 03:29
Just FYI, Mermaids Bar / Message Parlor is directly across from Las Chavelas and Adelita Bar.

Here's a photo.

MikeSorry, just noticed my photos didn't post. Here are the photos.

John Rain
02-07-06, 03:41
just got back from tj. bar rio verde is currently closed.

there's police tape all over the entrance. a sign posted says that everyone has gone to azteca bar. a security guard was standing outside on sunday afternoon referring folks to azteca. he wouldn't say what the problem was.

a street girl i know well says that they got caught with **** girls. this is just gossip, but could be true.

also could be that the kick-backs were a little too slow. i've seen several bars briefly closed like this before.

Country John
02-07-06, 21:56
just got back from tj. bar rio verde is currently closed.

there's police tape all over the entrance. a sign posted says that everyone has gone to azteca bar. a security guard was standing outside on sunday afternoon referring folks to azteca. he wouldn't say what the problem was.

a street girl i know well says that they got caught with **** girls. this is just gossip, but could be true.

also could be that the kick-backs were a little too slow. i've seen several bars briefly closed like this before.

the place was shut down by the usa equivalent of the "department of social services and child welfare" etc. it was for allowing **** girls to work there. apparently pepe was warned about this in the past but ignored it. he might have trouble ignoring the days off and lost income. thank your lucky stars you didn't get hooked by an **** girl.

country john

Digaboon
02-07-06, 23:14
Just off the main drag we found a club called Purple Rain. Only about 10 - 12 girls working but I would rate more than half 7-8+. The place is quiet, no crowds no rush!

Nevermore
02-08-06, 02:07
Look down a few posts and READ. You do not have to HIDE viagra from Mexican police.

Country JohnI read it, but discounted it. Sorry, but I don't believe it. If it were true, then everyone would be running around down there popping Viagra in the open. There have been dozens of posts of guys getting popped by the TJ cops for possessing it. According to you, one would go free if hauled before the judge down there for possessing a Viagra pill without a prescription. If a prescription is NOT required, then WHY do they write prescriptions for them down there?

Adventur
02-08-06, 05:36
Donde esta Azteca?

Esta seguro?

Conejito
02-08-06, 10:30
http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_3482712

If you appreciate the post, perhaps you can consider also joining below (your computer's extra energy works on finding cures). It is good for people who leave their computers on a lot and connect frequently to the internet. Right now we are both attacking HIV and studying human proteomes.

http://www.worldcom***itygrid.org/index.jsp

Bad4URHeart
02-08-06, 22:14
Donde esta Azteca?

Esta seguro?

Look at post #603 (19 post ago).
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=430227&postcount=603

It is relatively safe since it is right off of Revolucion.

Country John
02-09-06, 02:30
I read it, but discounted it. Sorry, but I don't believe it. If it were true, then everyone would be running around down there popping Viagra in the open. There have been dozens of posts of guys getting popped by the TJ cops for possessing it. According to you, one would go free if hauled before the judge down there for possessing a Viagra pill without a prescription. If a prescription is NOT required, then WHY do they write prescriptions for them down there?

Because doctors will write a prescription for vitamin "A" if someone is stoopid enough to ask for it.

Viagra is NOT on the list of controlled meds or controlled/prohibited substances in Mexico. That's not according to Country John, that's according the the Mexican Government, I'm simply posting for your information, it is they who you do not believe, not me.

If the Mexican Government states that no prescription is necessary to possess any substance used for the treatment of erectile dysfunction, then I guess they're wrong. What they really mean then is that a prescription is necessary. If the prescription IS required, then why are the drug store operators not in jail for dispensing without a prescription?

I don't use the stuff personally but I did research it because it's a hot topic. If you get hauled before a magistrate, ask him or her why you are charged with a crime that does not exist. Again, that's according to Mexican Law. I'm not blowing smoke here.

Country John

California Guy
02-10-06, 00:39
In defense of Country John, I don't think he is saying you should be popping pills as you walk down the street :) lol you would be a fool to do this with candy knowing you can get busted for no reason. However if you are arrested for taking some Viagra in a pharmacia then you can protest to a judge considering their laws, of course that is if you arrested for that specific reason.

John Rain
02-10-06, 05:35
okay, let me just say it: i'm going to be fiche fucked here. this is a classic example of how it happens. enjoy.

i went down to tj on superbowl sunday and eventually landed in valentina bar in the alley. valentina bar is, i believe, owned by adelita bar. it is a less successful version of miami bar. that is, it is aimed mostly at locals and offers chicas for dollar dances with occasional strip shows. there is a hotel next door, used by both bar girls and the valentina street hookers. i enter and order a bohemia beer and they deliver two for 30 pesos. i give a 10 peso tip.

there is a homely white blonde stripping on the dance floor. nice breasts but flabby everywhere else. she starts making the rounds for dollar tips. for a dollar you can pretty much touch or kiss her anywhere. after her, a young brunette with black thigh-high stockings and four-inch heels starts her dance. now we're talking. she's pretty, a bit thick, but not fat. her firm, toned body is nice. i really like her wide face, big eyes, and pouty lips. she looks to be about 20. yes, this will likely be the one i want. she has my full attention and i hold up a dollar while she's making the rounds and get a chance at feeling her smooth, perfect skin.

after she's done she goes back to the dressing room. a short, fat, older brunette starts to strip dance. this only confirms that the young brunette is the right choice for me. after a couple minutes, my girl climbs into a shower stage in the back that i never noticed before. i finish my first beer and start the second. she finishes her shower and takes forever to come out. when she does come out, she lays down on a bench seat next to the stage turning her full attention to her damn cell phone. my eyes are locked on her but she never looks up. after about ten minutes, i ask a passing masero to fetch her for me. she's kind of surprised, but comes over willing, sits next to me, and i give the nod for fiche #1. the game is on.

60 pesos for the fiche and a 10 peso tip. but now my second beer is empty and i order another. her name is cristal, sure it is. we quickly establish that she knows no english. perfect. i know only a few phrases and maybe a rep001tered hundred words maximum. i really haven't found this to be a problem. i plan to do lots of touching and very little talking anyway. i wrap my arms around her and pay for my next 2-for-1 bohemia. a couple sips later and we order fiche #2.

a well-endowed stripper makes her rounds and my girl says her own breasts are too little. i assure her that they are just perfect. she pulls them out and i confirm my evaluation with a more careful examination. recall that cristal is fresh out of the shower. she smells great and feel even better. i try to rub her belly, but her oversized belt is in the way. no problem, she immediately removes it. she pulls her top all the way down and orders fiche #3. she works on making a paper rose out of a napkin, i work on making her nipples hard.

we caress each other and i massage her neck and shoulders as she turns sideways to relax into my body. this is great. fiche #4 is ordered and promptly delivered. she briefly pulls her bikini bottom away to show me her fuzz. they start playing a slow song and we get up to dance along with a few other couples. she kicks off her shoes making her a couple inches shorter than me. perfect. she snuggles into me as we slow dance. back to the table and its time for fiche #5. she pulls out her bikini bottom and i slip my hand onto her pussy. we start deep french kissing and i order myself another beer. she finishes her beer, pours some of my beer into her glass and gulps it. more kissing, petting, dancing and now i'm not sure what fiche we're on but i ask her to go to the hotel. she's delighted and heads off to the baño. meanwhile, the masero shows up with a bucket of five more fiches.

there's no fucking way i'm going to buy a bucket of beer at 60 pesos a bottle. the masero says it is required if i want to take this girl to the hotel. i tell him to leave one beer and no more. cristal returns and the masero says something to her. cristal gulps the remaining bottle and i tell her no mas crevaze and vamos hotel. as we approach the exit, several maseros are stop her argue about the bucket of beers. i have no intention of arguing and continue walking toward the exit. she says something like she's a puta working for money. i walk outside, she catches up to me and we get a room for a half hour.

really, i've had too much to drink at this point. we settle into the room, she undresses and we spend lots of time dfk. she's young and beautiful and i'm happy as can be. we explore each other and eventually she pushes my head down between her spread legs. the more she wiggles and moans, the more effort put into the task at hand.

before i know it, the knock comes. i haven't even had my chance yet. i ask her for more time. she says i have to buy five more damn beers for more time. no fucking way. i pay her 500 pesos and leave.

i knew better, but still: fiche fucked.

Nevermore
02-10-06, 11:18
Because doctors will write a prescription for vitamin "A" if someone is stoopid enough to ask for it.

Viagra is NOT on the list of controlled meds or controlled/prohibited substances in Mexico. That's not according to Country John, that's according the the Mexican Government, I'm simply posting for your information, it is they who you do not believe, not me.

If the Mexican Government states that no prescription is necessary to possess any substance used for the treatment of erectile dysfunction, then I guess they're wrong. What they really mean then is that a prescription is necessary. If the prescription IS required, then why are the drug store operators not in jail for dispensing without a prescription?

I don't use the stuff personally but I did research it because it's a hot topic. If you get hauled before a magistrate, ask him or her why you are charged with a crime that does not exist. Again, that's according to Mexican Law. I'm not blowing smoke here.

Country JohnWith all due respect, I just think you don't have all of the facts. The following is from a post that I'm more inclined to believe:

The letter of Mexican law requires a Rx from a Mexican physician to buy Vigara, Cialis and Levitra (V/C/L) as they are category IV prescription medications. (Cialis's registration number, for example, is 181M2002 SSA IV.) Granted the law is seldom enforced (unless one is a tourist) and that even pharmacists will tell you a Rx isn't needed. (Which is partly true: they don't need a Rx to sell V/C/L to you.)

I have heard many people debate the question whether an Rx is need to buy medication in Mexico. The Mexican government provides the following on-line information that all (who speak Spanish) can review.
http://www.salud.gob.mx/unidades/cdi/nom/072ssa13.html

NORMA Oficial Mexicana NOM-072-SSA1-1993, Etiquetado de medicamentos.
5.11.1 En la etiqueta de los medicamentos, se deberá expresar la clave de registro sanitario, tal como se indica en el oficio de registro, seguida del número romano de la fracción que corresponda a los medicamentos, ambos con la misma tipografía y tamaño, y de acuerdo a la siguiente clasificación:

I. Medicamentos que sólo pueden adquirirse con receta o permiso especial, expedido por la Secretaría de Salud;
II. Medicamentos que requieren para su adquisición receta médica que deberá retenerse en la farmacia que la surta y ser registrada en los libros de control que al efecto se lleven;
III. Medicamentos que sólo puedan adquirirse con receta médica que se podrá surtir hasta tres veces;
IV. Medicamentos que para adquirirse requieren receta médica, pero que pueden resurtirse tantas veces como lo indique el médico que lo prescriba;
V. Medicamentos sin receta, autorizados para su venta exclusivamente en farmacias, y
VI. Medicamentos que para adquirirse no requieren receta médica y que puedan expenderse en otros establecimientos que no sean farmacias.

Medications fall into one of several categories (or schedules):

Category I medications may only be taken with permission of the Secretary of Health. Usually they are experimental drugs.

Category II drugs require the pharmacy to keep records on who bought the medication. They will probably keep your Rx and you will need a new Rx each time you visit the pharmacy.

Category III medications are limited to three refills. Obviously records should be kept by the pharmacy.

Category IV medications require an Rx from a Mexican physician. However, the pharmacy is not required to keep records about who bought the medication.

Category V medications do not require an Rx. They can only be sold in a pharmacy.

Category VI medications do not require an Rx. Their sale in not restricted to a pharmacy (think of something like Aspirin sold in grocery stores).

In many Latin American countries so many people lack money to visit physicians that pharmacists often provide medical care. Hence laws requiring a person to have an Rx are seldom enforced. The pharmacy may even tell you that you don't need an Rx for Category IV--> medication. However, the law is on the books and an "enterprising cop" can use it to extort money.

Most prescription medications--including Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra--are Category IV medication. (Cialis's registration number, for example, is 181M2002 SSA IV.) The regulation above says these medications require a prescription from a Mexican physician and that it can be refilled as many times as the doctor indicates. Since record keeping by the pharmacy is not required for Category IV medications many people and pharmacies say an Rx is not required. While this is correct in practice, it is not correct legally.

Belldude2
02-11-06, 05:41
hate to say it dude, that was fuched!

i had a dancer gf there for about a year and never had that happen. if anything you pay a bar fee. usually about 20 bucks for tln. i cant believe that happened. i tell you what i will go there this holiday weekend and see what happens. does crystal work days or nights?


okay, let me just say it: i'm going to be fiche fucked here. this is a classic example of how it happens. enjoy.

i went down to tj on superbowl sunday and eventually landed in valentina bar in the alley. valentina bar is, i believe, owned by adelita bar. it is a less successful version of miami bar. that is, it is aimed mostly at locals and offers chicas for dollar dances with occasional strip shows. there is a hotel next door, used by both bar girls and the valentina street hookers. i enter and order a bohemia beer and they deliver two for 30 pesos. i give a 10 peso tip.

there is a homely white blonde stripping on the dance floor. nice breasts but flabby everywhere else. she starts making the rounds for dollar tips. for a dollar you can pretty much touch or kiss her anywhere. after her, a young brunette with black thigh-high stockings and four-inch heels starts her dance. now we're talking. she's pretty, a bit thick, but not fat. her firm, toned body is nice. i really like her wide face, big eyes, and pouty lips. she looks to be about 20. yes, this will likely be the one i want. she has my full attention and i hold up a dollar while she's making the rounds and get a chance at feeling her smooth, perfect skin.

after she's done she goes back to the dressing room. a short, fat, older brunette starts to strip dance. this only confirms that the young brunette is the right choice for me. after a couple minutes, my girl climbs into a shower stage in the back that i never noticed before. i finish my first beer and start the second. she finishes her shower and takes forever to come out. when she does come out, she lays down on a bench seat next to the stage turning her full attention to her damn cell phone. my eyes are locked on her but she never looks up. after about ten minutes, i ask a passing masero to fetch her for me. she's kind of surprised, but comes over willing, sits next to me, and i give the nod for fiche #1. the game is on.

60 pesos for the fiche and a 10 peso tip. but now my second beer is empty and i order another. her name is cristal, sure it is. we quickly establish that she knows no english. perfect. i know only a few phrases and maybe a rep001tered hundred words maximum. i really haven't found this to be a problem. i plan to do lots of touching and very little talking anyway. i wrap my arms around her and pay for my next 2-for-1 bohemia. a couple sips later and we order fiche #2.

a well-endowed stripper makes her rounds and my girl says her own breasts are too little. i assure her that they are just perfect. she pulls them out and i confirm my evaluation with a more careful examination. recall that cristal is fresh out of the shower. she smells great and feel even better. i try to rub her belly, but her oversized belt is in the way. no problem, she immediately removes it. she pulls her top all the way down and orders fiche #3. she works on making a paper rose out of a napkin, i work on making her nipples hard.

we caress each other and i massage her neck and shoulders as she turns sideways to relax into my body. this is great. fiche #4 is ordered and promptly delivered. she briefly pulls her bikini bottom away to show me her fuzz. they start playing a slow song and we get up to dance along with a few other couples. she kicks off her shoes making her a couple inches shorter than me. perfect. she snuggles into me as we slow dance. back to the table and its time for fiche #5. she pulls out her bikini bottom and i slip my hand onto her pussy. we start deep french kissing and i order myself another beer. she finishes her beer, pours some of my beer into her glass and gulps it. more kissing, petting, dancing and now i'm not sure what fiche we're on but i ask her to go to the hotel. she's delighted and heads off to the baño. meanwhile, the masero shows up with a bucket of five more fiches.

there's no fucking way i'm going to buy a bucket of beer at 60 pesos a bottle. the masero says it is required if i want to take this girl to the hotel. i tell him to leave one beer and no more. cristal returns and the masero says something to her. cristal gulps the remaining bottle and i tell her no mas crevaze and vamos hotel. as we approach the exit, several maseros are stop her argue about the bucket of beers. i have no intention of arguing and continue walking toward the exit. she says something like she's a puta working for money. i walk outside, she catches up to me and we get a room for a half hour.

really, i've had too much to drink at this point. we settle into the room, she undresses and we spend lots of time dfk. she's young and beautiful and i'm happy as can be. we explore each other and eventually she pushes my head down between her spread legs. the more she wiggles and moans, the more effort put into the task at hand.

before i know it, the knock comes. i haven't even had my chance yet. i ask her for more time. she says i have to buy five more damn beers for more time. no fucking way. i pay her 500 pesos and leave.

i knew better, but still: fiche fucked.

Belldude2
02-11-06, 05:48
thats too bad. i loved rio verde.


just got back from tj. bar rio verde is currently closed.

there's police tape all over the entrance. a sign posted says that everyone has gone to azteca bar. a security guard was standing outside on sunday afternoon referring folks to azteca. he wouldn't say what the problem was.

a street girl i know well says that they got caught with **** girls. this is just gossip, but could be true.

also could be that the kick-backs were a little too slow. i've seen several bars briefly closed like this before.

Country John
02-11-06, 21:56
With all due respect, I just think you don't have all of the facts. The following is from a post that I'm more inclined to believe:

The letter of Mexican law requires a Rx from a Mexican physician to buy Vigara, Cialis and Levitra (V/C/L) as they are category IV prescription medications. (Cialis's registration number, for example, is 181M2002 SSA IV.) Granted the law is seldom enforced (unless one is a tourist) and that even pharmacists will tell you a Rx isn't needed. (Which is partly true: they don't need a Rx to sell V/C/L to you.)

I have heard many people debate the question whether an Rx is need to buy medication in Mexico. The Mexican government provides the following on-line information that all (who speak Spanish) can review.
http://www.salud.gob.mx/unidades/cdi/nom/072ssa13.html

NORMA Oficial Mexicana NOM-072-SSA1-1993, Etiquetado de medicamentos.
5.11.1 En la etiqueta de los medicamentos, se deberá expresar la clave de registro sanitario, tal como se indica en el oficio de registro, seguida del número romano de la fracción que corresponda a los medicamentos, ambos con la misma tipografía y tamaño, y de acuerdo a la siguiente clasificación:

I. Medicamentos que sólo pueden adquirirse con receta o permiso especial, expedido por la Secretaría de Salud;
II. Medicamentos que requieren para su adquisición receta médica que deberá retenerse en la farmacia que la surta y ser registrada en los libros de control que al efecto se lleven;
III. Medicamentos que sólo puedan adquirirse con receta médica que se podrá surtir hasta tres veces;
IV. Medicamentos que para adquirirse requieren receta médica, pero que pueden resurtirse tantas veces como lo indique el médico que lo prescriba;
V. Medicamentos sin receta, autorizados para su venta exclusivamente en farmacias, y
VI. Medicamentos que para adquirirse no requieren receta médica y que puedan expenderse en otros establecimientos que no sean farmacias.

Medications fall into one of several categories (or schedules):

Category I medications may only be taken with permission of the Secretary of Health. Usually they are experimental drugs.

Category II drugs require the pharmacy to keep records on who bought the medication. They will probably keep your Rx and you will need a new Rx each time you visit the pharmacy.

Category III medications are limited to three refills. Obviously records should be kept by the pharmacy.

Category IV medications require an Rx from a Mexican physician. However, the pharmacy is not required to keep records about who bought the medication.

Category V medications do not require an Rx. They can only be sold in a pharmacy.

Category VI medications do not require an Rx. Their sale in not restricted to a pharmacy (think of something like Aspirin sold in grocery stores).

In many Latin American countries so many people lack money to visit physicians that pharmacists often provide medical care. Hence laws requiring a person to have an Rx are seldom enforced. The pharmacy may even tell you that you don't need an Rx for Category IV--> medication. However, the law is on the books and an "enterprising cop" can use it to extort money.

Most prescription medications--including Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra--are Category IV medication. (Cialis's registration number, for example, is 181M2002 SSA IV.) The regulation above says these medications require a prescription from a Mexican physician and that it can be refilled as many times as the doctor indicates. Since record keeping by the pharmacy is not required for Category IV medications many people and pharmacies say an Rx is not required. While this is correct in practice, it is not correct legally.

I stand corrected. I appreciate you taking the time to post all this information. It will be very helpful in guiding mongers with repsect to the drug issues. Perhaps this should be reposted in the appropriate thread for reference.

Thanks.
Country John

Reinaldo
02-11-06, 23:48
Look at post #603 (19 post ago).
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=430227&postcount=603

It is relatively safe since it is right off of Revolucion.

You're confusing Azteca Bar with Aztec Massage the subject of post #603. Azteca Bar is on Revolucion between Articulo 123 (Calle Primera) and calle Coahuila. Aztec Massage is at the corner of Juarez ( Calle 2) and Revolucion. The entrance is on Juarez.

John Rain
02-12-06, 05:10
First, a comment about my last post. It may read a bit too seriously. It's intended to be informative for others and although I was upset at the moment I immediately shook it off and looked for more adventures that night. Except for the ending, it was a fun experience sitting with a beautiful young chica, both of us drinking too much beer, playing with her bare tits and exploring other areas of that fresh supple body. At one point she was squeezing limes all over her tits and having me lick up the juice while she sat there giggling. And I'll certainly never understand why she would allow me to DFK with her that way, but it certainly was delightful! In the hotel room I should have focused on myself instead of her.

I let it happen to myself. This is the way TJ is and I just take it in and move on. You can read the story and chuckle, or use it as advice to avoid such a situation, or just maybe try it yourself.

I have on a prior occasion taken a girl from Valentina without the bucket of beers bullshit.

Enough about that.

So after I left Valentina, I wandered down to the far end of the alley by almost to Niños de Heroes stopping at Cuartos Venecia to snag my friend Wendy and head back to Hotel Cascades. When we get settled into bed, I realize that she has a cold and isn't feeling well at all. I roll over to the other side of the bed and snooze for a while. She watches TV and then sleeps as well. Eventually her phone rings waking us, we dress, and I walk her back to Venecia.

I hike up Constitución and turn up Primera to see if there's anyone I want at El Fracaso. There isn't. Back down to the Alley and I stop to talk to Margarita. Margarita is very light if not outright pale. She is a beautiful, flaca (skinny), brunette. She has thick, bright red lips, penciled thin black eyebrows, skinny legs and with a micro-short skirt. She usually works out of Hotel Mini but is now standing in front Hotel Porton. She's from Mexico City and speaks okay English. We talk for a while. She is a lot of fun and more educated than most of the girls.

By now it's almost midnight. I buy a soda and walk down to Cascades where I see Areli. She stands outside Hotel Cascades, front and center six nights a week. (Anybody else know her?) Areli is a dark haired beauty that I've known for a couple of years. She has a round face and thin lips. Her hair is black, parted in the middle, and shorter than shoulder length. Tonight she is dressed like a school girl hooker. You know the outfit. She also has shiny black platform boots that rise to mid thigh. Hot as hell!

Let me say that every time I see her, Areli immediately has my heart and mind--sort of. I have tried time and again to pull her away from here for a night and have never been able. I've had her crying for me, she'll DFK, and let me do just about anything I want to her, but I can't break through that puta for money mind set she has. It's frustrating. So, again tonight I find myself wanting her and we go up to my room. We talk for a while, DFK, and pet for a long time and then have sex perrito and finish missionary. She is surprisingly strong all over and a fantastic lay. Her vagina muscle control is incredible. Yes, incredible. After we finish she reminds me once again that she would love to be my wife. We fall asleep holding each other and wake up after two in the morning. She wants to get back to work. Will one of you guys please marry her and take her away from here!

So, finally, I've had my first only nut of the night. Hurray!

Mike

Nevermore
02-12-06, 14:19
I stand corrected. I appreciate you taking the time to post all this information. It will be very helpful in guiding mongers with repsect to the drug issues. Perhaps this should be reposted in the appropriate thread for reference.

Thanks.
Country JohnI appreciate your graciousness Country John, but I can't take credit for the post since I copied it from Burt at another TJ FAQ forum you are familiar with. I'll gladly repost this where you think it is appropriate, or feel free to copy and paste it yourself. Anything to help the cause.

Bud Leeeeeeee
02-12-06, 23:36
its across the street from adelita's. 40$ for an hour massage (no banging on the door to hurry) with a girl this $40 goes to house I would think. It costed me an extra $70(bargain with girl in room later) for sucky fucky all with condom of corse. Let me backup first of all downstairs there is a bar the girls can dance with the stripper pole and show their stuff maybe get 1$ tips. Then they ALL get called to do a lineup upstairs where the fun begins. There was about 15 girls to choose from (most avg looking but all young under 25 I would say). They are all dressed in school girl outfits with the ponytails. About 4 guys and me were waiting to hear their names. I shouted out my girls name as soon as she said her name. There is like a 3 second pause between each girl calling her name out. So I didn't want to take the chance of losing her to someother guy picking first. So I pick my girl who is a beautiful 18yr old perfect body real tits and not a mark (scars or stretchmarks) on her. She spoke NO english so this hurt my negotiations a little. She didn't even know what sucky fucky was. Sexo is what she kept saying. I had to point at my dick and then again at her mouth for her to understand suck, and fuck was just a couple thrusts. This girl I believe was semi new to the game. So after 20min weak massage she sucked me hard with condom. I hate that at least suck me hard without condom but again I couldn't comminicate that well. I never get real real hard with condom suck and that can be a bad start. So we fuck in all the positions I wanted. It hurt her and she too kept asking for different positions. She didn't have any lube but she was just wet enough. I would think these girls would lube everyone up for less damage to them especially if its hurting them for 20-40min of fucking. So I am doing her doggie style an now things are feeling real real good I look down at my dick woundering what the hell has suddenly made everything feel so dam good and all thats left of my condom is the bottom half or its broke and bunched down at the bottom. So I show her and she opens the door and says some spanish about me being to grande and she needs another condom. LOL I wish. So back to fucking and with 5 mins later I go in for the assist (jerk myself). I ask if I can jack off on her tits or face and she don't understand so I have her dogstyle again with me jerking it and finish on her pussy lips and ass while she is spreading it open for me (which I had to explain to her how to sread it open real good). Not the ending I wanted but what a pretty pussy and ass. Again she was very beautiful and allowed for brief DFK. I don't DATY in TJ but sure was tempted not sure she would of went for it.

Thats it. Mermaids is good. Nice bed and sheets in room with ac! they give you 2 nice towels. Also there is a shower down the hall with toilet with lock on the door. So you could shower with all your belonging locked in with you if you chose too after the deed. There was like 4-6 of these shower rooms at he end of the hall. So its worth noting no bathroom in fuck room.

Sorry for the rambling I don't write much and even more sorry for not remembering her name. It was american name like jennifer or elizabeth. Naa not elizabeth. So go see the lineup and signup if you see something you like. 1hr rules over a 20min rush anyday. Girl had great attitude since they aren't use to rushing everyone to hurry hurry. Funny thing is I still had to finish myself LOL. I had too many beers at the Hong Kong that nite I guess.

I am out budleeeeeee

John Rain
02-13-06, 05:57
The next morning I'm up bright and early, shower, and head out with my digital camera. There's only a few girls around as it's Monday morning at 7:30 am. A girl in front of Miami Bar strikes up a conversation, asking about my camera. I show it to her and ask if I can take her photo. No way. Now she's kind of nervous that I might try to take her photo. No surprise here. These girls are all aware of the Internet and suspicious of anyone with a camera. I've had no luck selling the idea of taking photos during sex and limited success taking any photos of them at all. She tries to convince me to take her to my room but I'm not interested. My favorite, Rosio, will be out soon enough.

I decide to hike up Revolución and see if I can find Las Pulgas which I've seen mentioned in the forums. Obviously, just to be aware of its location for future possibilities. It's way up Revolución across from the AM-PM Mini Market and Jai Alai. I get some OJ at the AM-PM, withdraw some cash at their ATM, and head back down the street. The Police are making their morning paddy wagon rounds of the homeless bums. I stop at McDonalds before heading back down to Callejon Coahuila. Rosio is standing at the corner by La Hacienda Bar.

Rosio is a gorgeous, petite Mexicana. She has dark skin and very long, straight, dark brown, almost black hair. She's short with a trim, beautiful body. Her pretty face has a broad smile and gleaming eyes that never fail to make me glad to be alive. She's a sweetheart inside and out. She doesn't look like a SG. She wears modest makeup and is easily a 9. Her manner of dress usually ranges from conservative to moderately provocative. She takes my arm and we walk down to Cascades.

Alone in the elevator with her, I hug her and suggest we have sex right here. She's laughing and I gently turn her around and start to bend her down in front of me. "No, Mike!" she protests, laughing and pushing me away. She knows, of course, I'm only playing. I enjoy her company so much.

My room is a double, so once inside I tell her we'll use the fresh bed. She starts to undress that gorgeous little body and turns to me saying "Close you eyes," in pretend modesty. I cover my eyes with my fingers spread wide staring at her and she falls back on me laughing. Her clothes are off and she picks out a banana flavored condom from my collection. I trained her to put a drop of lubricant on the inside of the condom. She slips it on me and turns her full attention to Mr. Happy who is standing tall with pride. She gives a seriously great CBJ as always. After a good ten minutes, I have to stop her. She asks if I want more oral, I laugh and tell her no mas. I wait a minute and lay her down. She is so beautiful and tiny and sweet. I can't last more than ten minutes of missionary with her this morning.

Afterwards we quiz each other about words in English and Spanish. Last year, I gave her a small Langenscheidt Spanish-English dictionary and another book, Ingles para Latinos, by William C. Harvey. I have a copy of his Spanish for Gringos, which is a user-friendly approach to conversational Spanish for novices like myself.

I proudly walk her back to her location and as we approach, I see a gorgeous brunette looking sexy as hell. Rosio says she's her friend. Rosio introduces me but, sorry, I can't remember her name. I ask Rosio if she would like a coffee. She says sure and I ask her to ask her friend as well. We walk into Fruteria Avitia, the little store Rosio strands in front of, and I spend the whole time staring at her friend. It's too soon to take another girl, so after I finish my agua mineral, I walk the block a few times.

Eventually, I see my friend Lorena down by Cuartos Venecia. Lorena is cute as can be. Very short with long black hair and a beautiful face with a dimpled smile. I've been with her twice and talked with her many times. She's great and always dresses sexy. It's still too early for another girl, but I ask her to go to room anyway. I take my camera out of my pocket and she says, "No fotos, Michael!" Shot down again. We kiss and pet but I'm not ready for sex yet. I remember that I have a little dictionary in my back pocket for her. Last time in TJ she showed great interest in mine, so I made a point to bring her one this time. I give her the dictionary and 200 pesos for her affections and we stand outside Venecia with me showing her a few key English terms to supplement her vocabulary. (If you happen to see her and she says "You handsome." You can thank me.)

Later that morning, I'm ready again. So I head up Constitución to look for Monica. I saw her yesterday afternoon and promised to return later last night for her. Of course, I didn't. Last time I was in TJ, I told her I would spend some time with her but never did either. My feeling was that she was getting too lazy in bed. So, it's about 10:30 am and she's not at her post and I decide to continue walking up Constitución to catch her coming from her apartment. Two blocks further and I run into her. She's surprised. She's dressed in sweats with a backpack holding her work clothes and other puta stuff. I give her a kiss on the cheek, take her hand and we walk down the street to the hotel she works at. I tell her she looks fine as she is, but she wants to drop off her backpack. I wait for her and then we walk down to Hotel Cascades. In my room she sees that both beds are messy and complains that I have too many mujeres. I tell her its only a few women describe each one to her so she knows where she stands.

Monica has the most beautiful soft skin. She has also lost some weight lately and is starting to look pretty good again. ( Here are previously posted photos when she was heavier: Photo1, Photo2 ). So, she starts scolding me for not coming back for her last night and she was waiting extra late for me. I just tell her I'm basically a liar and was busy with other girls. The funny part is she getting all passionate kissing and sucking me all over. I'm love it and she's getting hot scolding me as well. So I agree with her, the whole time boning her as hard as I can. It was a great, passionate session.

Afterwards, she got changed into some nice jeans and we went over to Hard Rock Cafe to have some lunch. She likes the shrimp fajitas here, I just had a cheeseburger. I like taking the street girls here for lunch. Outside, before entering Hard Rock, a smart ass vendor sees us together and says "Sir, you have a beautiful little sister." Obviously, I'm quite a bit older than Monica. I love TJ!

That's about it for this trip. Oh, the border crossing line was a record length. It took well over two hours standing in line.

Mike

Country John
02-13-06, 06:05
I appreciate your graciousness Country John, but I can't take credit for the post since I copied it from Burt at another TJ FAQ forum you are familiar with. I'll gladly repost this where you think it is appropriate, or feel free to copy and paste it yourself. Anything to help the cause.

Cool, I was unaware of Burts post. Might be a good idea to post in in my thread, or a reference to burts post.

Country John

California Guy
02-14-06, 20:32
Went down last Friday night because I normally head on weekday nights and thought I would see if the weekends were going to be better. Many people were going to party and I probably should have joined them on Revolucion :) Anyway I head first to HK because I wanted to see if some hot girls were back but the talent level is low. I like this place because you can see the girls easier, the seats or comfortable for lounging, and it is basically like a US strip club but with more touching available. If you haven't been yet I suggest going but you will not be impressed with the girls compared to the other bars like AB.

Anyway I would say there are around 15-20 girls working and maybe 3 I would give a 7-8's and the rest went way down. One girl I would say is a solid 8 goes by the name America but I have yet to even talk with her because she looks like a *****! She has a model figure, tall and skinny, with prefect tits, nice face, but she is a little thin or she would be a 9. This night she did the lesbian show and you could tell she probably wouldn't be great in the hotel as she was pissed if guys were touching her too much. I mean I understand some of these guys get stupid but many weren't doing much more than the normal petting you see. She didn't seem into the show as much as the other girl either which was a shame but there were a lot of gringos throwing around money this nite so I don't think she cared. Oh back to the too much touching part, one gringo got pulled up on stage because he was doing it too much and they wanted to mess with him. Normally they will rub the shaving cream all over your face and clothes but they just grabbed this guy and got him naked on stage. The guy didn't seem to care so it was a good laugh, though you could see the guy seemed a little embarrassed after. One more note about that girl, when I went upstairs after the show I heard a couple gringos saying she is married as well and her husband was actually sitting up there watching the show!

After this I went over to Tropical again and tried that place out, needless to say I won't go back unless I am out of options. There were 2-3 girls that were 7-8's but all with guys and the others weren't hot at all. If you don't speak good Spanish the place lags as well and there weren't many gringos around to chat with. I was tempted to try another one of the clubs around but I just went back to HK because I didn't want to stay much longer due to the fact I had things to do Saturday and the quality level is bad. I even asked one of the waiters in HK about it and he just shook his had saying he had no clue. I forget his name but he speaks perfect English and is one of the cooler waiters there, short with a buzz cut if you need to ask about chicas. Well back at HK the better girls were still with guys buying them a bunch of drinks. Oh that girl America left after her show so she wasn't around either way. After a while it was getting late so I was going to give it another 30 minutes and leave. I was watching this one girl up stairs, from the bottom level, that I had my eye on the whole night but she wasn't going to leave her cash cow to go to the hotel. While I was watching her though I noticed another girl with a couple Asian guys and she was pretty cute. They were getting her drunk and she seemed like she was having a good time. After a little while the guys left so I decided I would go and talk with her since she was free. She wasn't the hottest girl, a good 6, but was nice and pretty wasted. I asked her about the hotel and she said it was good, broken English, as she could barely stand up at times lol. I think she was new as well because I hadn't seen her before and she said she had arrived the previous Friday. While she was getting cleaned up, prior to going up stairs, they started another lesbian show and it was like 4am so I watched for a few minutes and it was better than the first.

Up in the room it started like a typical TJ experience where she took her clothes off, I took mine off, and she laid there waiting...not the GFE some of us look for. She wouldn't suck me and I was tempted to do some DATY because her pussy was just perfect, actually she had a really good figure, but I wasn't that willing and I don't think she wanted it. I thought for a minute that this session was going to be a really bad one but I recalled she was having fun in the club and was maybe shy. I started mish with her and she became really wet which was great. I really got into it and she seemed to like it as well which makes things that much better. I rolled her over to her side and did her like this for a good 10 minutes and she was moaning like crazy. I thought she was a little too excited (faking the O) and wanting me to cum so I did after a good 20 minutes total. I thought the guys would be knocking soon as well and I wanted to at least finish things up. So I am laying there rubbing her pussy and kissing her more and decide to get up and clean off. She actuallys grabs my arm and pulls me back saying she wanted more, man I thought it was all a show but she was drunk and horny! I'm kind of laughing and she pushes me down on my back and starts to grind on me and puts my hand inside her, my cock is still rapped in the damn condom lol! So now I am laying there with one hand holding my used condom, didn't want the little guys roaming, and the other rubbing her clit. She is moaning, kissing me, grinding away, and I am super tired because it is around 5:00 and I already busted one so I didn't think I could get hard before the guys came to the room. I even told her that they were going to knock soon but she didn't care, kept telling me to "enter" her again and without a condom! I obviously didn't but I did my best to give her another orgasm before we had to leave, which surpisingly didn't happen for a good 10 minutes. Overall one of my best sessions ever, mainly because she was a cool girl and it was a funny experience as well. The fact she wasn't one of the hottest girls, new, and a little drunk probably aided but I am definitely not complaing and will do her again next time but save my nut :) I will have to get her name as well because I can't remember but she was from Mexico City, about 5'3, nice B cup, and speaks broken English.

El Juez
02-18-06, 04:33
California Guy

Good report. From my experience, more often than not, the average to above average chicas often are the most fun simply for the reason they are not so full of themselves.

Belldude2
02-21-06, 11:28
ok here is the 411 on the fiche cheit!. i got the lo down this weekend. obviously, many/most of the girls are recruited from other parts of mexico. what happens is that the club puts an ad in a paper in another city. the girl calls and agrees to the job. the club then sends her a ticket and puts her in a hotel. for this, she must sign a contract for a certain amount of time. in the case of hong kong in order to take her out of the club before her shift is done, one must pay the equivalent of 20 fiches. so if she already has 12 pieces of paper(fiche) with her name on it, then you must pay for the remaining 8, or wait to the end of her shift. can you believe that... 20 fuching drinks!!!! the ones that are not on contract, or have already fulfilled their contract, the normal bar fee is 20- 30 bucks. or so it has been in the past. hope this helps clear it up a bit. they are pimps first and foremost!


okay, let me just say it: i'm going to be fiche fucked here. this is a classic example of how it happens. enjoy.

i went down to tj on superbowl sunday and eventually landed in valentina bar in the alley. valentina bar is, i believe, owned by adelita bar. it is a less successful version of miami bar. that is, it is aimed mostly at locals and offers chicas for dollar dances with occasional strip shows. there is a hotel next door, used by both bar girls and the valentina street hookers. i enter and order a bohemia beer and they deliver two for 30 pesos. i give a 10 peso tip.

there is a homely white blonde stripping on the dance floor. nice breasts but flabby everywhere else. she starts making the rounds for dollar tips. for a dollar you can pretty much touch or kiss her anywhere. after her, a young brunette with black thigh-high stockings and four-inch heels starts her dance. now we're talking. she's pretty, a bit thick, but not fat. her firm, toned body is nice. i really like her wide face, big eyes, and pouty lips. she looks to be about 20. yes, this will likely be the one i want. she has my full attention and i hold up a dollar while she's making the rounds and get a chance at feeling her smooth, perfect skin.

after she's done she goes back to the dressing room. a short, fat, older brunette starts to strip dance. this only confirms that the young brunette is the right choice for me. after a couple minutes, my girl climbs into a shower stage in the back that i never noticed before. i finish my first beer and start the second. she finishes her shower and takes forever to come out. when she does come out, she lays down on a bench seat next to the stage turning her full attention to her damn cell phone. my eyes are locked on her but she never looks up. after about ten minutes, i ask a passing masero to fetch her for me. she's kind of surprised, but comes over willing, sits next to me, and i give the nod for fiche #1. the game is on.

60 pesos for the fiche and a 10 peso tip. but now my second beer is empty and i order another. her name is cristal, sure it is. we quickly establish that she knows no english. perfect. i know only a few phrases and maybe a rep001tered hundred words maximum. i really haven't found this to be a problem. i plan to do lots of touching and very little talking anyway. i wrap my arms around her and pay for my next 2-for-1 bohemia. a couple sips later and we order fiche #2.

a well-endowed stripper makes her rounds and my girl says her own breasts are too little. i assure her that they are just perfect. she pulls them out and i confirm my evaluation with a more careful examination. recall that cristal is fresh out of the shower. she smells great and feel even better. i try to rub her belly, but her oversized belt is in the way. no problem, she immediately removes it. she pulls her top all the way down and orders fiche #3. she works on making a paper rose out of a napkin, i work on making her nipples hard.

we caress each other and i massage her neck and shoulders as she turns sideways to relax into my body. this is great. fiche #4 is ordered and promptly delivered. she briefly pulls her bikini bottom away to show me her fuzz. they start playing a slow song and we get up to dance along with a few other couples. she kicks off her shoes making her a couple inches shorter than me. perfect. she snuggles into me as we slow dance. back to the table and its time for fiche #5. she pulls out her bikini bottom and i slip my hand onto her pussy. we start deep french kissing and i order myself another beer. she finishes her beer, pours some of my beer into her glass and gulps it. more kissing, petting, dancing and now i'm not sure what fiche we're on but i ask her to go to the hotel. she's delighted and heads off to the baño. meanwhile, the masero shows up with a bucket of five more fiches.

there's no fucking way i'm going to buy a bucket of beer at 60 pesos a bottle. the masero says it is required if i want to take this girl to the hotel. i tell him to leave one beer and no more. cristal returns and the masero says something to her. cristal gulps the remaining bottle and i tell her no mas crevaze and vamos hotel. as we approach the exit, several maseros are stop her argue about the bucket of beers. i have no intention of arguing and continue walking toward the exit. she says something like she's a puta working for money. i walk outside, she catches up to me and we get a room for a half hour.

really, i've had too much to drink at this point. we settle into the room, she undresses and we spend lots of time dfk. she's young and beautiful and i'm happy as can be. we explore each other and eventually she pushes my head down between her spread legs. the more she wiggles and moans, the more effort put into the task at hand.

before i know it, the knock comes. i haven't even had my chance yet. i ask her for more time. she says i have to buy five more damn beers for more time. no fucking way. i pay her 500 pesos and leave.

i knew better, but still: fiche fucked.

Netman05
02-23-06, 02:24
I have not been able to make it down the adult playland in the south for around 8 months due to other commitments in the US.

I am planning on heading down between 3/4-3/8 with 3 nights planned in TJ.

I have read almost all of the posts here and had a few questions for the more frequent visitors:

1) Is it really 2h wait at the border? Is this only on Fri/Sat or other days and in the early evening (return around 10-11pm).

2) I assume just a US drivers license is still all that is required to get back? I don't like taking my passport as they scan it and I am concerned what informaiton could leak out to others in the US. ;-) In the past I just brought a photo-copy of my ID even though I never needed it.

3) Any recommendations on top new talent at AB or CC or on the street.

4) I was thinking of staying one night in either AB or CC so I can use the room with Chicas and then sleep after drinking. I did this one other time but the noise at AB was so loud it was hard to sleep. The room was safe and all but they play loud music all night. Do all of the CC/AB rooms do this or was it just that one night. I thought maybe they were trying to get me to check out early.

Thaijuan
02-23-06, 04:23
Someone told me TJ has a Tequila Festival where vendors bring their Teq's and you pay something like $20, does anyone know about this and when do they have it?
I heard Ensenada has a similar festival but I am not talking about that one, I want to check out TJ.

California Guy
02-23-06, 16:07
Return times depend on whether you are walking or driving across so I am not sure which you are going for? I can tell you that 3 weeks back I went on Friday and when I left to go back, it was around 5 am, the fucking line was back to where the taxi drops you off! I would definitely bring your ID but not a passport because it isn't required and it would suck to lose something like that. Not sure about staying at AB or CC and I don't frequent those enough to recommend any girls. There are plenty of girls though in AB so I don't think you would have a problem finding a good looking girl. On my last trip I didn't check AB out because I don't like the crowds and for non-gfe why put up with it? Then again if you want to best looking girls it seems like the spot to be.

Lascivious
02-23-06, 20:57
A friend said that he read that a passport will be required to return to the Staes from MX next year. I remember hearing that they proposed this last year but it got shot down. Any info on this one?

Netman05
02-23-06, 21:29
I was really interested in the return times on Sunday->Thursday around 10pm -> 2am. I strictly avoid TJ on Fri/Sat night unless I was planning on going for just the revo drinking clubs. The zona is too crowded otherwise. I have never had to wait very long in the past. I was only interested in walk across times as I never drive to TJ.


Return times depend on whether you are walking or driving across so I am not sure which you are going for? I can tell you that 3 weeks back I went on Friday and when I left to go back, it was around 5 am, the fucking line was back to where the taxi drops you off! I would definitely bring your ID but not a passport because it isn't required and it would suck to lose something like that. Not sure about staying at AB or CC and I don't frequent those enough to recommend any girls. There are plenty of girls though in AB so I don't think you would have a problem finding a good looking girl. On my last trip I didn't check AB out because I don't like the crowds and for non-gfe why put up with it? Then again if you want to best looking girls it seems like the spot to be.

Dirty Dog
02-24-06, 00:38
Hey Lascivious

Check out this website


http://travel.state.gov/index.html

Dan D Dick
02-24-06, 01:19
A friend said that he read that a passport will be required to return to the Staes from MX next year. I remember hearing that they proposed this last year but it got shot down. Any info on this one?I was returning from TJ Monday evening & asked that specific question of the US officer since I had met a couple who wanted to visit but did not have passports. His answer: they are implementing it in stages with the TJ crossing to be implemented in 2008. I didn't ask if that was January or December.

Dan D Dick
02-24-06, 01:24
Ok here is the 411 on the fiche cheit!. I got the lo down this weekend. Obviously, many/most of the girls are recruited from other parts of Mexico. What happens is that the club puts an ad in a paper in another city. The girl calls and agrees to the Job. The club then sends her a ticket and puts her in a hotel. For this, she must sign a contract for a certain amount of time. In the case of Hong Kong in order to take her out of the club before her shift is done, one must pay the equivalent of 20 Fiches. so If she already has 12 pieces of paper(fiche) with her name on it, then you must pay for the remaining 8, or wait to the end of her shift. Can you believe that... 20 fuching drinks!!!! The ones that are not on contract, or have already fulfilled their contract, the normal bar fee is 20- 30 bucks. or so it has been in the past. Hope this helps clear it up a bit. They are pimps first and foremost!I guess I'm confused then. I stopped by at HK last night early (8PM) met a cute gal named Selma [sp?] & we went next door - no problems. I had only bought her one beer & paid no bar fine. She had mentioned thast she had just gotten to work so it's unlikely she had a dozen tickets yet.

Blue Nose
02-24-06, 04:11
I have not been able to make it down the adult playland in the south for around 8 months due to other commitments in the US.

I am planning on heading down between 3/4-3/8 with 3 nights planned in TJ.

I have read almost all of the posts here and had a few questions for the more frequent visitors:

1) Is it really 2h wait at the border? Is this only on Fri/Sat or other days and in the early evening (return around 10-11pm).

2) I assume just a US drivers license is still all that is required to get back? I don't like taking my passport as they scan it and I am concerned what informaiton could leak out to others in the US. ;-) In the past I just brought a photo-copy of my ID even though I never needed it.

3) Any recommendations on top new talent at AB or CC or on the street.

4) I was thinking of staying one night in either AB or CC so I can use the room with Chicas and then sleep after drinking. I did this one other time but the noise at AB was so loud it was hard to sleep. The room was safe and all but they play loud music all night. Do all of the CC/AB rooms do this or was it just that one night. I thought maybe they were trying to get me to check out early.

Netman,

The wait at the border depands on when and how you come back. On the weekends, if you drive back, 1-2h wait is the norm. Walking back, the wait is rarely longer than 30 minutes, even on weekends and sometimes it is very short.

For now, all you will need is your driver's license. You could always take a photocopy of your passport also. Generally, when you drive across they do not scan your passport (because your license plates are automatically scanned) and they may or may not scan it when you walk across.

Hotels at AB & CC will tend to fil up quickly on the weekends. I recommend you stay somewhere else as the noise in those hotels makes sleeping next to impossible. In the zone itself, there are plenty of hotels. The Nelson Hotel (corner of Revolucion & Primera) is OK, though pricey, and there are some hotels on Calle Coahuila, just west of AB & CC (Come out of AB, turn right and walk straight - there are a few hotels along there that are OK and less noisy).

Belldude2
02-24-06, 08:23
I was trying to get my girl out at about 2pm and she worked till 8pm. I would imagine that short time might be different. thats cool though


I guess I'm confused then. I stopped by at HK last night early (8PM) met a cute gal named Selma [sp?] & we went next door - no problems. I had only bought her one beer & paid no bar fine. She had mentioned thast she had just gotten to work so it's unlikely she had a dozen tickets yet.

Belldude2
02-25-06, 10:44
Keep in mind that I did mention that it is the ones on contract. If I am correct, Selma used to work at Adelitas, and hence, was not brought here by Hong Kong so she is not on contract. They must make the money back that the bar spent to get them to TJ


I guess I'm confused then. I stopped by at HK last night early (8PM) met a cute gal named Selma [sp?] & we went next door - no problems. I had only bought her one beer & paid no bar fine. She had mentioned thast she had just gotten to work so it's unlikely she had a dozen tickets yet.

Jackie888
02-26-06, 00:50
I tried the NY steak in the restaurant that belongs to the Chicago club. It was terrible.

I kept inspecting it and wondering if it was horse meat since it was so tough that it almost pulled my teeth out.

Worst 10$ spent. I can't determine whether this is worse than the Adelita restaurant. It was close. Should have went to Mc Donalds instead.

Could you guys recommend some restaurants down there that would NOT require a stomach examination thereafter?

Lascivious
02-26-06, 05:14
Fri. night (12:30 AM Sat. morning) border wait time: About as fast as you could get. I stopped before walking up to the agent for less than one min. I asked how he was doing tonight. His reply was a very dry, stern, "citizenship?” More like a statement than a question. I said, "US" and was on my way in seconds. More to follow…

Blue Nose
02-27-06, 03:34
I tried the NY steak in the restaurant that belongs to the Chicago club. It was terrible.

I kept inspecting it and wondering if it was horse meat since it was so tough that it almost pulled my teeth out.

Worst 10$ spent. I can't determine whether this is worse than the Adelita restaurant. It was close. Should have went to Mc Donalds instead.

Could you guys recommend some restaurants down there that would NOT require a stomach examination thereafter?


Try La Perla restaurant. Per OWL's quote below, the food is excellent and very reasonable priced. I have eaten there many many times and never had a single problem. It is also very close to the action: come out of AB and go left to the stop sign. La Perla is the building diagonally across from you with the palm thatch roof.

Country John
02-28-06, 02:22
Bluenose....nice to share that beer with you at Aztec. It took so long to spot you because Adela was blocking the view (intentionally I think). Anyway, hope you had a great session with your girley. Trip report? Did they re-open Rio Verde yet?

The Zona is NOT set up for sleeping unless you are knocked out anyway. I tln'd at Cascades for quite a while with by then fav and never got much sleep. I wondered how she got any sleep.

You'll have to move up to Nelson if you want to get ANY sleep. Good luck.

Country John

Sunset Strip
02-28-06, 22:38
I did a Otay search and did not find any posts, which is strange.
So can somebody please tell me how to get from say Revolution to the Otay border crossing?

The San Ysidro crossing is ridiculous during the day. Too many tourists right now.


TJ

Netman05
03-03-06, 04:35
I will definitely be in the Zona this coming weekend. I am thinking about being there on Saturday night, sunday day and evening, Monday evening, and Tuesday daytime.

Any suggestions on specific Chicas that are giving good service right now. I really don't care too much about the price only the quality of service 1st and looks 2nd.

Interested in any good SWs as I typically stick to AB and CC but will try the alley sometimes. I only get to TJ a few times a year so I always look for guidance from the veterans.

Also if anyone is going to be in TJ on those days let me know and we could hook up for a beer. You can PM me.

Minimus
03-03-06, 05:39
If you are there on a weekend morning, the brunch at the Pueblo Amigo hotel is fantastic.


I tried the NY steak in the restaurant that belongs to the Chicago club. It was terrible.

I kept inspecting it and wondering if it was horse meat since it was so tough that it almost pulled my teeth out.

Worst 10$ spent. I can't determine whether this is worse than the Adelita restaurant. It was close. Should have went to Mc Donalds instead.

Could you guys recommend some restaurants down there that would NOT require a stomach examination thereafter?

FlapJacK
03-03-06, 11:49
Not to scare anyone but just a reminder to be safe and protect yourselves down there. I know some of you go unprotected. Might want to think twice about that and decide if it’s worth it.

Just be safe and have fun.


HIV/AIDS rates in Tijuana, Mexico increasing at alarming rate
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-02/uoc--hri022706.php

Mutha Foo
03-03-06, 16:48
Good info. I have known of cases where some of the girls at ABs have had herpes. Some of the girls will come down with something and a month later during their check up, their health cards are stamped "enfermo". Thus they can no longer work in a bar. Remember mongers, WRAP IT UP!

Double
03-03-06, 20:38
Did you actually see the ladies while they had the herpes sores, or did someone tell you that they have herpes? That is pretty scary, a condom will not help against herpes.

I did have an experience a couple of years ago. I saw a chica while crossing the street, and she offered sex. I looked at her said no thanks, and noticed that she had heavy make up on her face. I could see that she was covering up a herpes sore on her lip. I asked what is was and she said that it was nothing , and she then walked away.

I would recommend that any monger that is active go over to the STD sites and look at the different STD symtoms. It is not 100% effective, but it may help you to walk away from a piece of bad pu***. Photos are included in some of the sites so you get a good idea what is going on. Be very carefull with the DATY and strap up all the time, even for BJ's.

Mutha, the ladies with the herpes, have you seen the inside of Adelitas, or in the alley since you found out that they were infected?

TJ Bob
03-04-06, 06:47
Not to scare anyone but just a reminder to be safe and protect yourselves down there. I know some of you go unprotected. Might want to think twice about that and decide if it’s worth it.

Just be safe and have fun.


HIV/AIDS rates in Tijuana, Mexico increasing at alarming rate
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-02/uoc--hri022706.php

well, condoms are just not enough to protect you against many STD's. you need to take showers right after sex with soap especially against contracting herpesII and HPV/genital warts. also, no dfk and no daty with *****s as mucous to mucous contact and exchange of bodily fluids is an easy way to pass on std's. have fun and play smart.

Mutha Foo
03-07-06, 05:19
You crack me up! Soap and water???? Are you kidding me? Why didn't the CDC think of that in their battle against AIDS in South Africa. You're hilarious!

Netman05
03-09-06, 03:58
I finally made it back to the land of the Chicas after a 4 month absensce. Those of you living in the San Diego or La area have it made to the rest of the US for mongering IMHO.

Saturday night was just too crowded for my tastes in AB. CC was not too bad but I settled for a SW. I met her outside of Miami club. She is tall with dark skin. I can't remember her name but she gave full service for $30 including Sin Ropa. Not bad but sort of mechanical.

Sunday was the day I was fullly thinking of the 3 pop. Being around 40 this is not an easy task, at least for me. Armed with some Cialis I was up for the call though. I headed down to AB around 12:30 in the afternoon. My goal was to get the first pop done quick and then move on right away to some more cialis and then rest. The first chica was named Lola. She had wavy hair, very nice body, around 30. Overall pretty good experience.

I spent the next 4 hours roaming the Zona in AB or Hong Kong with some beer and food mixed in. I took the 2nd Cialis and headed back to AB as I didnt' find anything in the alley I liked. I was striken by the taller blond who wore the white halter top. I think her name was ***** but I can't remember. Her service was awful. She constantly stopped claiming it was too hot or too big. I was thinking I would never finish. She was using her hand and the whole thing sucked. I mean she was really hot and all but sex was pretty bad. I had to hold her in place and then she started yelling. So I just sort of gave up. I did pay her $60 but no tip. I was pretty pissed. I guess I got what I deserved as I didn't even talk to her much in the bar. Just got excited by that body. I would avoid her. She is close to a 10 in looks but a 4 in service. Also she asked for a tip and I just laughed.

HK was pretty dead on Sunday. Hardly any Gringos in either AB or HK. CC was really dead. In HK I got a few talbe dances to warm up for one more try at the 2pop ( I assume the 3 pop was out for today). The 3rd Cialis came in handy. Back at AB I figured I would go with a really nice 6-8 Chica who would give good service. I met this woman names Maria with a "Bebe" shirt. she is probaly around 30 or so. But has really nice natural body, a little larger than a spinner but otherwise OK. She was all over me in the bar. She said it was a slow day. Would do anything including BBBJ for $80. I was thinking no way in TJ. But for $50 she would do a dance, massage, and any position. Her dance got me pretty excited. She did the grind all over me. Her CBJ was also pretty good. Her sex form in cowgirl and reverse cowgirl was incredible. She had the best pussy control I have ever felt. I have been with about 25 chicas in TJ and her sex was the best. Not the best looker but best technique. I was going crazy when I finall popped. I wonder if with 3 like her I could have gotten the 3 pop on Sunday. Afte about 10h in the Zona I was ready to head back. No problems or anything. I still love TJ just for the selection, low key atsmosphere, relative saftey, and smutty factor to it all. I probably spent around $400 in TJ but I had a great time.

Another report about my next 2 nights coming up....

Netman05
03-09-06, 04:10
After the valiant effort for a 3 pop on Sunday I headed back on Monday night looking for a 1 pop and maybe a 2 pop depending on how I felt. TJ was pretty crowded for a Monday but I noticed mostly locals in Ab which means a lot of men not going upstairs. The chicas were all there but I am noticing some new ones. I also spot this Chica Sara that I have looked at for a while. She has a great body but doens't dress like a stripper or wear a ton of make-up. She also speaks pretty good english. I have bought her a drink but only later when I was done. I decide tonight I will try her. She is not agressive in the bar at all. In fact she asked me to give her a shoulder rub which I did and like doing. We hung out for 20m with only one drink. I had to suggest the room which is unique for TJ.

In the room I found out that her nice rack I was feeling downstaris is fake but that is oK. She has a great body and a real natural look. She rubbed all over me for 5-10m before she started with a really good CBJ. Her sex was not as good as Maria the other night but her body and Enlighs was good. We were laughing and talking. Sort or nice to not have all the faking going on. I never even talked about money so I just gave her $60+$5. It was now 12:30 so I just headed home to save up for a 2 pop the next day before I need to leave Southern California/TJ.

I forgot to mention that the spinner chick from Sunday actually said it was $80 for suckie once in the room and the condom was on. I just paid her but I was really even more pissed about that.

Tuesday was another most of the day affair. I picked up a SW in the afternoon. Her name is Lucia and she stand across the street from Miama club. She was oK but nothing great. I had to give her more money to finish and move her hand a few times. But she did look great naked. I did another vitamin C and waited 3-4 hours. I went back and tried to find Maria in AB but she was not there. I did the woman (name I can't remember) who wears the USA swimsuit with the largest tits I have ever seen. Of course they are fake but I wanted to try out a chica like that for a while. She was really happy to take $50 when I offered and agreed to let me suck and tity bang her. I am glad I gave the room guy an extra $5 on the way in as I took about 40m to finish with her. She really got a lot of banging as I have been in Tj almost non-stop for 4 days and even the "C" was making it hard to pop. I must have done her doggie for 10-12m before I finally poppped. She was pretty heavey when on to and it was not all the comfortable. The tity bang was pretty exciting and just playing and touching them was worth the dinero. I gave her a nice tip as she never complained about how long it took. Overall a pretty good experience.

I again love TJ and wish I could get there more often. Good luck to all the mongers. I didn't see that many Gringos in TJ this time in AB or HK, except on Saturday. I also saw policia at the border each night but no problems. I did have to wait about 20m on Sunday night and 30m on Saturday night to walk back but no problems. My only problem was not enough time and not enough youth for more pops in the Zone.

Long live TJ.

Country John
03-09-06, 04:43
You crack me up! Soap and water???? Are you kidding me? Why didn't the CDC think of that in their battle against AIDS in South Africa. You're hilarious!

It's not the CDC that didn't think of it, it's the people who didn't practice decent hygene after sex.

Country John

Mutha Foo
03-10-06, 04:27
Learn to read you country hick. BTW how's the alley.

Country John
03-10-06, 06:31
Learn to read you country hick. BTW how's the alley.

Howyadoin Mutha, long time no read.

Havn't been to the Alley for a while. I'm living with a girl in TJ on the weekends, saving heaps of money and having a hell of a time.

Country John

Mutha Foo
03-11-06, 01:20
How's the rent? Where are you renting? Did you find the place thru the paper? Good luck to you.

Country John
03-11-06, 06:58
How's the rent? Where are you renting? Did you find the place thru the paper? Good luck to you.

4 BR 1-1/2ba 1600 sqft 2 st house in Las Pinas - South Side. $450/pm. The house is new and secure. Found it on Craigs List I figger I save over $1,000 pM on mongering. Got a 35 YO Myan girl who knows whassup.

Country John

TJ Bob
03-12-06, 15:08
You crack me up! Soap and water???? Are you kidding me? Why didn't the CDC think of that in their battle against AIDS in South Africa. You're hilarious!

Seriously foo, stay-off the crack you ignorant MoFo. Ever heard of showering after sex? Obviously not, you filthy std ritten flea bag. At least you do the sink wash after the putas right? Of course not, you just pull-up your hawaiin shorts and you're out the door in 4minutes, huh? lol. what a mutha f! later boy.

TJ Bob

Mutha Foo
03-12-06, 17:05
Naaaawww! Don't need to wash my self. That way dem putas can get all of my STDs fresh off the press. Also, I let them suck my shaft bareback. So in a way, when you're DFK'ing a puta, you're kissing my dick. LOL! YOU SUCKA!

Country John
03-12-06, 23:19
Seriously, washing after sex is a good first step. I've seen video and stills from patients who haven't washed in weeks. Their peckers were infected with bacteria first. Some of these pics might be online, I'll have to check but it shouldn't take a picture of an infected dick to make it make sense.

Anyway, happy screwing.

Country John

TJ Bob
03-14-06, 11:56
Naaaawww! Don't need to wash my self. That way dem putas can get all of my STDs fresh off the press. Also, I let them suck my shaft bareback. So in a way, when you're DFK'ing a puta, you're kissing my dick. LOL! YOU SUCKA!

What a cum back you dirty Mofo. DFK and BBBJ with putas? What's next for you, DATY? no gracias, you pinche puto. lol.

It's just all in fun. i'll help ya out a bit. Look up teamjuanita for your anal fantasy. They can really help you out with that. Ask for their newest additions to their line of putos for anal freaks like you. Keep the lights off and enjoy a mutual BBBJ and rimjob too. you're welcome mofo. anytime. lol.

Mutha Foo
03-18-06, 16:32
You're such a sucka! Teamjuanita is such a scam!!! Nothing but grannies and trannies. Is that what you're into? Damn! You're a serious freak. Lata CHUMP.

John Rain
03-19-06, 23:15
I left work early on Friday and drove down to Tijuana. There was a bit of rain in Orange County with much more on the way, but I didn't care. Sure, TJ is a shithole in the rain, but a Friday evening is sure to be busy regardless. Always looking for new adventures, I had already decided that I would to try out the new Hotel El Porton in the Alley (Callejon Coahuila).

Hotel El Porton Report
Hotel El Porton is a newer hotel which I first mentioned in my review of its attached bar El Corral. It is located in the Alley (Callejon Coahuila), on the North side near Constitución. There is no sign for this hotel. It shares a brown-orange tile facade with Bar El Corral. I have been inside this hotel only once before, short time with a street girl named Margarita, a tall, pretty, flaca morena from Mexico City who works late evenings. She used to work out of Hotel Mini, but moved over here a few months ago.

I walk down the long corridor to the small reception desk and inquiry about getting a room for the night. A woman who speaks no English is working the reception desk with a man sitting to the side, both watching a movie on a small computer LCD. A room will be $35. With some language difficulty, I confirm that the first girl I bring to the room will be gratis and subsequent girls will be $6 each for the room fine. $6 is their normal charge for a 15 minute room rental. I hand over 350 pesos and she gives me a key, not asking for a deposit, identification, or even my name.

The man walks me upstairs stopping at large cabinet to give me a blanket. I ask about towels and he grabs three large bath towels for me. I get settled in my room. It's a very small room, but everything is brand new. The room is about 7' x 12' and the bathroom about 7' x 5'. It has a new cushion-topped mattress, double bed with two flat pillows. There is only a sheet and top sheet on the bed, hence, the reason they gave me a blanket on the way up to my room. The room is so narrow that there is no space for a bedside table. The bed butts up against the wall on one side with the doorless bathroom entrance on the other side. There is only one table in the room holding a 19" color TV and a DirecTV cable box. The TV includes a built-in DVD player. There is no closet or dresser or chair; with no where to put anything I set my small backpack under the TV table.

Looking around the room there are no heating or air conditioning vents or controls. The ceiling is high like 12' or more. The bathroom sink has no hot water line. I later discover there is plenty of hot water for the shower. The sink and shower have full liquid soap dispensers. I turn on the TV and fiddling with the box I can't pick up a signal, so I head down to reception to inquire. The man who showed me my room asks me to wait, runs over to Bar El Corral and returns with another guy who speaks some broken English. This guy grabs a remote controller, heads up to my room and resets the TV input, but explains that I can't keep the remote. I turn the TV off and on a couple times to see if it still works. It does. There are hundreds of channels including HBO and lots of XM music.

Looking around a bit, I see there are only nine rooms for overnight rental. All are singles and open except mine, I suppose I am the only one staying here tonight. Most of the rooms have a mirror in place of a headboard, mine has neither. The rooms downstairs are just for quickie sessions, not for overnight rental.

That night I took a shower with plenty of hot water. The room was quiet enough, better than most other hotels but music could be heard all night long. The room was a bit cold, but I was fine with the blanket they provided. They did use a couple of the upstairs rooms for short sessions, so I did hear some people moving about throughout the evening.

Hotel El Porton Summary

Benefits:
1. New = Clean
2. Location is great
3. Chica friendly
4. DirecTV (Good for long sessions, bad for short sessions)

Drawbacks:
1. Small
2. No room heat/air

Compared with Zona Other Hotels
I consider the pricing neutral, not the cheapest place nor the most expensive.

Hotel Leyva is $19 for a double bed with no TV or $27 the for same double bed but registering two people. I always get a room on the living quarters side rather than the tourist motel side. They quote higher prices for the motel side where the rooms are larger and have TV's. Leyva is right next to Chicago Club and Leyva has car parking which would certainly tip the scales for those driving into the zone. I never drive there. Many of the street girls won't go this far if they don't know you, but some certainly will. I've never had any issues bringing girls here or going to girls rooms here. I've even brought street girls with me to the registration desk and got a room for the night.

Hotel Mini in the alley is only $20, but old, cold, smelly, loud and no TV. Mini only gives one old towel. The first girl is free and the rest are $5. Many hot chicas work out of this hotel. Most street girls will go here with you but don't really like it because of it lacks a TV and is kind of run down. The office ladies are really nice folks. The location is great.

Hotel Cascades is $28 for a single, which they almost never have available; $44 for two double beds, usually available early in the afternoon; or $67 for a Jacuzzi room with a queen size bed. Cascades also charges $5 after the first girl, but $12 for their bar girls (those working inside Miami Bar, Hong Kong Bar, or Las Chavelas) Cascades always has a TV. The cleanliness, heating, cooling, and noise are just the luck of the draw; I've certainly had every range of experience with rooms at Cascades. The staff here can be annoying. The location is great.

Hotel El Porton Conclusion
I would consider staying at Hotel El Porton again, but it's just one more possibility, not a strong favorite by any means.

More about my trip later.


Mike

Mutha Foo
03-21-06, 03:13
Stopped by ABs on Saturday night. The club is trying to be more like Las Vegas and less like Mexico. I didn't care for the remodel at all. If I wanted Las Vegas, I would be in Las Vegas. The old ABs was kinda of crusty and old like Mexico itself. They should have left the place the way it was. Also, noted alot of new talent but them all seem cold and professional. All money and no games. I miss the next door type of girl that no longer frequents this place. I think I will stick with Tropical. At least it has the hometown feel that I like. Peace out.

California Guy
03-21-06, 04:57
Headed down to Mex and just hung out at HK. The talent level sucked as always but I don't expect much anymore. I mean I haven't seen a good group of chicas there since last year and even then there were maybe 4 hot girls all scooped up by guys buying stupid gifts :) I have fun with the laid back atmosphere or I wouldn't bother with HK, nice compared to AB but they need better girls because it is getting sad. Didn't take anything upstairs, just my second time with this and I probably should have grabbed a street girl because they looked better.

Country John
03-21-06, 05:45
Natural progression. Brought about mainly by the traffic and clientele. More money walks through the front door these days. The scary part is that the girls don't miss the "good ole days."

They are all business but then again they got a stiff contract with the club. Might be a few changes there too and that could explain the new faces.

Oh well. They'll always be very very busy. I preferred Miami, Hong Kong and ultimately Rio Verde for the real edge. I live in TJ with a girl I met at Rio Verde. A real sweet Myan princessa. We're 8 months in and we have a nice house on the South side.

Country John

Munch Lunch
03-24-06, 03:57
I generally post in the Mexico City section; but will have the pleasure of being in TJ for four days soon. Any recommendations on low rent, but safe, clean, and possibly even quiet, chica friendly hotels near the street action? Thanks, ML

El Putero
03-24-06, 05:40
Be careful if you visit La Carreta (spelling?) Bar in the middle of and on the south side of the alley in TJ. Like many places, they have men outside loudly encouraging people to enter and I decided to see what was going on inside. Unfortunately I allowed my cock instead of my brain to control my actions and ended up wasting a lot of good money. But maybe I can at least warn other mongers to stay away from the place, or to at least use more sense than I did. After I settled at the bar a cute looking girl came and sat down next to me. Although I drank only mineral water, she asked me to first buy her a few drinks. As expected the drinks were very expensive. While she was with me she got me really turned on, and then I paid the bar $40 to allow me to take her to a room they had upstairs. The price includes thirty minutes and about four or five beers. The rooms are very small and dark; measuring about 6 feet by about three feet, and contain a small reclining sofa. Once inside, the girl wanted $50 for herself. Using my cock to make the decisions, and really wanting to do this girl, I forked over the money. From here on things only got worse. Not only did the cramped room make getting it on difficult, but the girl’s pussy smelled. Being a clean person myself, I find a smelly pussy completely unbearable and a complete turn off. After doing her in two positions and not enjoying the experience, I thanked her for her time and then left the bar. My advice is to either not go into this place, or to use extreme caution and common sense. For the money I spent in there I could have enjoyed the company of at least three of the street girls or at least have a great time with one of the main bars like the Chicago Club or Adilita’s

El Putero
03-24-06, 05:55
I generally post in the Mexico City section; but will have the pleasure of being in TJ for four days soon. Any recommendations on low rent, but safe, clean, and possibly even quiet, chica friendly hotels near the street action? Thanks, ML

Hey Munch,

On my last visit to TJ I noticed a hotel across the street from La Tropez Bar (about one block east of the main action area) called Hotel Hacienda de Santiago. I've never been a guest there but the place looked new, so I walked into the lobby to see what they charged for a single. They wanted $44 for per night for a single, and as I expected, the looby looks newly built or rebuilt. Already having purchased a room on the US side, I simply noted the place as a poosible place to stay the next time in town. However, I did ask a couple of the locals about the place. What I was told is that the hotel is only about six months old, with very clean rooms, and supposedly guest (girl) friendly. I do not have a map of the Zona Norte, otherwise I'd tell you exactly the intersection where the place is located. But any cab driver or any of the local people in the ZN should be able to tell you where it is. If you do decide to spend a night there, please tell us about your experience. Being a poor working slob, I can only visit TJ once or twice a year.
Good Luck!

John Rain
03-24-06, 15:28
Be careful if you visit La Carreta Bar in the middle of and on the south side of the alley in TJ. …I allowed my cock instead of my brain to control my actions and ended up wasting a lot of good money.

Hah! Been there, done that.

La Carreta Bar is expert at fleecing us gringos this way. Happens to more guys than are willing to admit. I was there last fall and had a similar experience. I'm still kicking myself!

Mike


~~~
I stood upon a high place,
And saw, below, many devils
Running, leaping,
And carousing in sin.
One looked up grinning,
And said: "Comrade! Brother!"

—Stephen Crane

California Guy
03-25-06, 04:33
Went down and headed to HK to hang with some new friends I met last week. The place is honestly becoming a joke, not just for the lack of hot girls but the freakin waiters who hastle you every 2 minutes. I was there late buying a girl some drinks and before she could finish half of the beer she had, 3 dickheads were standing there telling me I had to buy more, I kid you not 3 different people. I basically told them I wasn't interested because of their attitudes and told the girl that she missed out on some money because of those losers, one is like the tallest waiter there and I'm sure if you have been you know this asshole. Anyway, the girls were mostly above average with 4 girls who were good looking. One is this girl named America and I think she is pretty hot but a guy told me a gringo offered her over 100 for 30 min and she turned it down! He said she is probably asking over 200 and I laughed saying that is worse than America so what is the fucking point? I mean she is hot but damn for 400hr you can get some serious ass in the US who will give you just about everything you want. I think the next time I go down I will chill at HK but I doubt I will take anymore girls up from this place. I can walk outside and get a girl for 30 who is just as good looking or even better so screw HK for making a good setup turn to shit.

Marauder
03-25-06, 06:04
I found these videos on a google search. It seems to be several large movies of a dude walking around the zona norte, filming the ladies.

http://www.archive.org/details/TIJUANA

I wonder why? Wierd.

Munch Lunch
03-25-06, 19:42
HOTEL - Will check out your recommendation. Also, found some other leads int this forum. Thanks to all!
CARRETA BAR - That has happened to us all at one time or another. Thanks for sharing. I will avoid.
M.L.

Reinaldo
03-26-06, 03:43
I do not have a map of the Zona Norte, otherwise I'd tell you exactly the intersection where the place is located.


It's located at the corner of Coahuila and Revolucion.

Belldude2
03-27-06, 03:48
Munch, I pm'd you about Hotel Leyva. well Hotel Hacienda de Santiago is owned by the same people, so I would trust them as well. for me Leyva is more than good enough at only 29 bucks a night. but Maybe I will try hacienda de Santiago soon. When you are there, I would love to show you some other clubs not in the Zona too. Let me know.

Al


HOTEL - Will check out your recommendation. Also, found some other leads int this forum. Thanks to all!

CARRETA BAR - That has happened to us all at one time or another. Thanks for sharing. I will avoid.

M.L.

Three I
03-27-06, 20:07
The old ABs was kinda of crusty and old like Mexico itself.

Thanks funny!

LOL!

Three I

California Guy
03-27-06, 23:35
Went last night and it looks good. I didn't see any girls dancing so I am not sure why they have the poles. I have a feeling they are trying to make it like a better HK club because the first thing girls were doing was asking for drinks, it use to be straight to the room :) which is better so you don't spend as much. There were a couple lookers but all in one group which was odd and they were acting like high school dumbasses. I didn't hook up because I would rather not waste my money on a chica who will probably act like a blow up doll in the room. I also went to HK and it is still the same, but they actually had a couple extra girls, not hot but extra, working. I observed that girl America and she is pretty much a bag and if you buy her drinks you are wasting time, just go and see. The hottest girl was some crazy chick from the US who was half naked and dancing on the stages. She was wasted but super pretty so it was fun to watch, little mexican girl with a hot face and body. She got annoying after a while and kept wanting to dance so they told her to leave lol.

Country John
03-28-06, 05:38
I got jacked there also. Every time I pass the place, I wait until the barker is done with his routine then I proceed to tell him how I got ripped off there. I do so in a tone that others around will clearly hear. Same with Pollo Bar. Man, I got ripped big time at El Pollo Bar.

My GF is a Myan Indian girl who is a real sweetheart I met at Rio Verde. We've been together for 8 months and currently share a house in TJ. We are having a very positive experience together, by the way.

We shower before sex and often when we shower (together) we don't get to he sack for (sometimes) a few hours. During the session I always DATY her. She has the sweetest pussy I ever had. I did notice a very FAINT trace of the smell that is sometimes VERY strong from the girls. I think I know the smell you are referring to.

For my girly, it's just body sweat. It's not because she isn't clean. She is very clean. We both are. Our sessions are full on porn style and usually last 2 hours. Amazing stuff. And I'm 50. We explore every crack and crevace. Part of her pre-session is to run her tongue between my toes .... sheesh....

So the smell is not necessarily a "un-clean soiled body." I'm certain that in some cases it is, but don't mistake the sweet smell of Latina Muchacha Sweat with that of a dirty body. Check her out at the table or just plain out take your chances but get to know the different aromas, they're not all bad.

I had one street walker who wanted me to land on skidmarks. I was drunk, it was late, I was horny and the price was right. Different smell. If you want to get an idea of what it smells like then take a dump on a newspaper and then come back in several hours.

Ahem.........

I am surprised that I don't read more about Salma de HK. The chica "America" is all over the boards so I'm not surprised she's mis-behaving. Salma is a good old fashoned working girl who is VERY clean and she is also a great session. I miss her.

Looks like the "Y" generation is changing the character of the Zona. Sorry to see it go.

Happy sessions.

Country John

Lascivious
03-30-06, 20:08
The ped line was all the way back to the taxi drop point and did not seem to be moving much. A guy came by and offered a bus ride for $2.00. The line was so long that I thought that it would take forever to make it through so I went for it.

In just a few minutes the line had shrunk dramatically. By the time the bus got near the building entrance the line had shrunk so much that the line was only a few people past the entry.

I don't know if the bus saved me that much time or not. I thought it would be better to be sitting down on the bus waiting as opposed to standing in such a long line.

How did the end of the line go from the drop point to the building entrance so fast?

California Guy
03-30-06, 22:33
A couple weeks back I found the line like this as well but on my last trip it was so freakin' long it actually rapped back around into the street because that sidewalk ends about 40 yards further than where the Taxi drops you off. I couldn't believe it, actually nobody could believe it! Thankfully it only took about 30 minutes but I was tempted to take that bus as well, just so I could sit down if nothing else. In terms of the line length, they sometimes stop the line from moving where the first US officer stands, where the barriers start. If they slow it down for even 10 minutes it can drive the line back in size but in terms of time it will still move the same.

Blue Nose
03-31-06, 05:29
Be careful if you visit La Carreta (spelling?) Bar in the middle of and on the south side of the alley in TJ. Like many places, they have men outside loudly encouraging people to enter and I decided to see what was going on inside. Unfortunately I allowed my cock instead of my brain to control my actions and ended up wasting a lot of good money. But maybe I can at least warn other mongers to stay away from the place, or to at least use more sense than I did. After I settled at the bar a cute looking girl came and sat down next to me. Although I drank only mineral water, she asked me to first buy her a few drinks. As expected the drinks were very expensive. While she was with me she got me really turned on, and then I paid the bar $40 to allow me to take her to a room they had upstairs. The price includes thirty minutes and about four or five beers. The rooms are very small and dark; measuring about 6 feet by about three feet, and contain a small reclining sofa. Once inside, the girl wanted $50 for herself. Using my cock to make the decisions, and really wanting to do this girl, I forked over the money. From here on things only got worse. Not only did the cramped room make getting it on difficult, but the girl’s pussy smelled. Being a clean person myself, I find a smelly pussy completely unbearable and a complete turn off. After doing her in two positions and not enjoying the experience, I thanked her for her time and then left the bar. My advice is to either not go into this place, or to use extreme caution and common sense. For the money I spent in there I could have enjoyed the company of at least three of the street girls or at least have a great time with one of the main bars like the Chicago Club or Adilita’s

Guys, those of you who know my posts know that I am a more than reasonable person. I am willing to put up with a lot in TJ based on the fact that I am in a foreign country, and I expect to be taken for a ride sometimes. In general, I am polite and agreeable, often buying drinks for Mexican gentlemen that I have only just met simply for the sake of international relations.

Out of all the places I have visited in TJ, La Carretera is by far the biggest ripoff (outside of Avenida Revolucion, which is another story altogether). I don't know what attracted me to the this place to begin with, but I visited on three separate occaisons and all of them were negative. I generally like to get a number of data points before drawing any conclusions, and I can honestly tell all of you that there is absolutely nothing of any redeeming quality to be found at La C. The barkers are brash and full of big talking nonsese, the girls are sometimes hot, but go more dead fish than any SG I have ever been with, and even the waitresses (who sometimes can be hot) try to Ficha Fuck you to buy them drinks.

There are a lot of shitholes in TJ, and believe it or not I actually enjoy visting some of them (it's a vastly different experience than AB or CC, but no less rewarding once you know what you are doing.) At many of them, the girls and the serving staff (who cater mainly to locals) actually appreciate a humble gabacho who just wants to stop by for a drink or two and shoot the breeze and practice his Spanish. But not La C. This place is to be avoided at all costs. It's on the Blue Nose Shit List, and that's pretty hard to do. I won't go into all the details, but you have to work pretty hard to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off (come on Country John - back me up here!!).

Stay away from this place or, if you do venture in, keep a tight grip on your wallet. If something seems too good to be true, it probably is. I won't comment on the whole stinky pussy issue, except to say that if it is enough to turn you off then you probably made the right choice by getting out of there. Keep an open mind, sure, but if it smells like blue cheese then call it a night!

Blue Nose

Blue Nose
03-31-06, 05:37
Our sessions are full on porn style and usually last 2 hours. Amazing stuff. And I'm 50. We explore every crack and crevace. Part of her pre-session is to run her tongue between my toes .... sheesh....

I am surprised that I don't read more about Salma de HK. The chica "America" is all over the boards so I'm not surprised she's mis-behaving. Salma is a good old fashoned working girl who is VERY clean and she is also a great session. I miss her.

Looks like the "Y" generation is changing the character of the Zona. Sorry to see it go.

Happy sessions.

Country John

Country John - Come on, man, you're making me jealous here!!! You're making us all jealous with these stories of your Mayan. Speaking as one who has also felt her sexual prowess, I can honestly say that you are a lucky guy!! As your pharmaceutical expert, I recommend that you increase to a double shot of Cialis once you hit 50 years of age. You'll need it with her.

Take care & hope to see you both soon,

Blue Nose

Country John
04-01-06, 07:20
Country John - Come on, man, you're making me jealous here!!! You're making us all jealous with these stories of your Mayan. Speaking as one who has also felt her sexual prowess, I can honestly say that you are a lucky guy!! As your pharmaceutical expert, I recommend that you increase to a double shot of Cialis once you hit 50 years of age. You'll need it with her.

Take care & hope to see you both soon,

Blue Nose

Hey Blue Nose, did you make Guadalajara? I love that place, how did you do?Adela has been asking if I heard from you. I think she still has a soft spot for you (but you keep your hands to yourself). Let's hook up for a beer.

Believe it or not, she's getting better and better. I can't believe how sexy this girl is and how much she enjoys sex. Never met a girl like her. We've been living together for 8 moths (yes Senior Blue, EIGHT MONTHS) and it still feels like I just met her. "Wow" is all I can say.

Country John

Pumaguy
04-01-06, 08:10
Hello Everyone,

I have a business trip to San Diego on Tuesday (April 4th) and was planning to drive down to Tijuana immediately after arriving at the airport. Is it easy to park on the American side, walk across the border, and arrive at the street walkers. How far is the SW sceen from the border? Is it safe to walk around all by yourself between 10:00pm and midnight? Is there good quality SW pussy, or do you have to go to a club for a good lay. I like my SW's young and thin (legal age of course).

Simply put, I have lots of meetings the following morning, so I just want to cross the border after my flight arrives, and walk across the border for a quick fuck. Hopefully in-and-out in less than 1 hour.

I am just a couple days away from traveling over there, so any quick assistance would be appreciated.

Thanks

Munch Lunch
04-01-06, 19:02
I have mongered for several decades and never seen anything quite like this. If you guys come and leave with your tails between your legs, please know that this is a very cruel place. However, it is also a very wonderful place. So here I am in TJ, loving and hating the place.

Most of my posts are in the Quito, Ecuador, Lima, Peru or Mexico City forums. But let me tell you TJ is a whole different game. I flew in Thursday morning on business from Guadalajara, which is a wonderful friendly city as Country John notes.

My advice, read these forums alot before coming. Be careful and have fun. But, also know if you get you get taken for a ride here, it is by the very best. This is not just a foreign country, it is a different planet! You are prey to these people, they hunt you. I am amazed at the hustles, cons, scams and danger of this place. And I am certainly not a novice. Here it is all about money, not soul.

If you are stupid they will get you. If you are smart you will have fun. Sorry to be preachy, but I have never seen anything quite like this. So, fellas have fun safely.

Munch Lunch
04-01-06, 19:13
Wonderful, new, place, right on the edge of Zona Norte the prostitution zone. I took the most expensive room they had, which is the 5th floor, 2 king beds, nice kitchenette, plenty of hot water. $500 MN or $50 USD. They own another hotel right here in the zona. They are friendly though profession, the place is spotlessly clean, safe, chica friendly, and they look out for you. Nice view of the whole zona from my balcony which is great at night, like looking down on Sin City!

Nevertheless, there is noise from the mobile tuba bands the wander up and down the street playing and night. And during the day, the car repair shop to the east can start up their sanding machines. I brought a little white noise that masks the worst of it.

Calle Coahuila, No. 8168, corner of La Revolucion

Country John
04-01-06, 19:39
If you are stupid they will get you. If you are smart you will have fun.

Ahhhhhh, Guadalajara. How I miss the Plaza de Mariachi and my girley there. It's been a while.

The above says it all. Remember, these people are Pros. You are not. They do this all day, you do not. They practice their technique, you might for about 15 minutes or so during a glam slam. Also remember that the Zona Norte is home to a LOT of deported criminals and a lot of fugitives. Be very very careful. Drugs are rampant but concealed. Use common sense. I know it's difficult because you're going to have some great sex with some fabulous babes but control yourself when you're out and about.

Having said that there are some who will watch out for you, but NEVER rely on that.

Country John

Munch Lunch
04-01-06, 19:53
1 pm thursday, having studied the excellent maps provided here by other mongers, i cruised the zone. couldnt believe the variety, some wonderful, some hideously fat and ugly. remember, more than half the clients here are lower income mexicans, who often like the mamacitas gorditas.

i settled on a girl named adriana from in front of the hotel mini. easily the cutest girl for miles. perched on 8 inch acrylic platform shoes she seemed about 5 feet 7 inches, 20 years old, extremely slender, b cups with wonderbra cleaveage to spare. has the distinctive, fine, features of spanish and indian blood from the sonora and sinaloa area. the indians there are not short and fat like in southern mexico. long, black hear, great smile....to die for. knew she was not going to be good in bed, because she seemed stuck on herself. but what the hell, for 20 minutes, its workable. i had only been in town and hour and wanted to get off.

price was $20 usd con ropa, mish only. the room was adequate and cost about $7 usd. she put on the condom, laid down and i buried the willie. she keep trying to cover her breasts and face with her forearms. i stopped banging and explained to her that our mutual goal was for me to come quickly, to which she agreed. i said my viewing her cleavage and face would speed the process along. she said, no i cant. so i said ok, chica, then ill just have to bang longer and harder. she nodded here head ok and then tried to cover her breasts as best she could.

then i really started in on her hard and fast, kind of like a tire repair shop. the only smell was that of burning rubber. finally, when i was about to cum, i had her finish me by hand, and by then she was happy to do. i just wanted to get a little involvement from her. in summary, i would not recommend her unlesss you are looking for an american gfe! or, a chance to fuck a beauty queen.

friday, 5 am i woke up with a raging hard on, so, i looked off the balcony of the hotel and could see a few street girls. went out and found [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), at the northwest corner of avenida consitution and articulo 123 aka calle 1. she is 18 years old, i had to ask because she looked younger, a slender, morena, long black hair, dressed in jeans and a red sweater. she had just shown up for work, all of her family back in zacatecas thinks she works the early shift at an industrial plant. the price was $25 desnudo and $5 for multiple positions.

she took me to a no name hotel she uses which was $6. she was friendly, fun and we connected well for 20 to 25 minutes. when i came, she looked my right in the eyes and said, aye, papi, ven, ven! i looked for her again this morning but could not find her. maybe she only works weekdays. all said, it was much better than wanking willie first thing in the morning. nice gal!

Munch Lunch
04-01-06, 20:20
My last business stop on Thursday around 1 PM, was at the office of an associate near Avendia Rodriquez and Paseo De Los Heroes in the south of TJ. I came out of the office and crossed the steet to a waiting taxi. He said I cant take you, I am waiting for someone, a girl. I said, fine, but since there are no other taxis around would you consider taking me to El Centro, if the girl will agree to share the taxi. He agreed and so did the girl, when she came out.

She is this hottie, dressed in a pink t'shirt, diamond accented shades, and a cute girlie baseball cap. I thought to my self, this is to good to be true! She looks like a showgirl. I said where you going and she said El Centro and we began to chat, her in English and me in Spanish.

She had been at a lawyers office arranging her legal papers for her upcoming marriage to a gringo next week. My heart sunk! I congratulated her and she told me she worked here and over in San Felipe, but never told me what she did. When we got to El Centro, she suggested I stay at the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago, which she said was a nice palce. I said, what a coincidence, that is where I am headed. We got out, I picked up the taxi tab, and she split into the quickshop store under the hotel. That was that.

Later, I saw her carrying in bags a groceries and she never gave me a second glance. The head clerk and I talked, he knows her and said the hubbie to be was comming down for this weekend and they stay together in the hotel.

So, future hubbie, if you are reading this, and you might be because you stay at this hotel, please know your bride resisted the charms of a Ricky Martin look alike. Actually, Im an old bald guy. But, anyway, I wish you the very best in your marriage. Mexicanas are great wives.

Munch Lunch
04-01-06, 20:51
About mid afternoon, I trolled through half a dozen club just looking, chatting up the ladies quickly, but not buying drinks and just kept moving. Many times this amounts to just working fast and trying to avoid the fucking waiters who are always trying to seat you and sell you a drink.

I like to hover around the door to the ladies dressing bath room. Often, if there is an old lady attendant at the door, I start up a conversation. Anyway, I knew HK has a reputation of being waste of time. However, out pops Maria from the ladies room. She is about 5 feet 5 inches in heels, slender, small boobs, 30 ish, half Mexican, half african blood, short, black, jelled back hair, dressed in a white lace bra and panties. And imagine this, she actually had a personality!

We chatted and caressed, standing there together. Without bothering to buy any over priced drinks, we agreed to a privado for $20 USD. Generally, these are only two songs, but she told the cubicle attendent I was her friend and not to bother us until we came out. Generally, I think privados are a waste of time. But this was, as I had expected because of our chemistry, really fine. We got one of the back stalls on the third floor and I was shocked at what she began to do. After all, she had assured me right in front of the attendant that there was only to be dancing and no sexo.

She stripped and only kept her heels on. Then, began practically climbing the walls right over my head and unsuspecting eyes. I began to nibble and kiss her long slender black legs, Im sure if I had wanted to she would have let me eat her. I resisted, but finger fucked her. She dropped to my lap and her wet pussy was right on my engorged Willie, only Levi Strauss was in the way. I sucked her boobies, etc. She started humping me and I just about came. Well, three long slow songs is about 20 minutes. When we left the booth, I held my businss jacket waist high to hid the wet spot. Nice!

I negotiated to come back at the end of her shift, 8 PM, to take her to my hotel for an hour for $90. When I came back and looked for her, the mamasan at the ladies room, told me she had just left with a high roller wearing a lot of pinkie rings! Well, to bad, she will never know what she missed out on!

I dont recommend HK, but I just got very lucky. I have not been back.

Munch Lunch
04-01-06, 21:10
After the club HK scene, I went to the hotel and changed my trousers. Then, off to the Tropical, which seemed a little less high pressure than most. I trolled though, smiling and chatting to the girls. One had a beautiful, welcoming smile, so, we started hugging and talking. Her name was Maria, about 5 foot 4 inches in heels, dark complexion, a little chunky but not at all fat, hair dyed to brunette, almost blond, 30ish. B cups.

I decided she was the one, so we got a table and drinks. We danced together three songs. I dont remember how much the drinks were, but I do remember thinking that it was reasonable. We negotiated a session for $45 for one half hour, she started out at at $60. I payfully worked her down from there, as she liked me. The room was around $10 or $12, and I tipped the cleaning guy $1. I tipped her a $5 afterwards.

In the room she became my dream woman, beginning with a little strip tease and CBJ. Nice hugs and then penetration in two positions. She really gave me 100% and climaxed herself twice. She actually had a couple of massive pussy contractions, so I think it was real. I would highly recommend this gal. She always sets at the bar, on the lefthand side.}

I negotiated $80 for her to come to my hotel after her shift at 10 30 PM, but when I went back then, she said it would cause problems with management. She lives right there in the hotel on site. They want her to sell drinks not do out calls. Possibly just an excuse, or possibly the truth. Oh, well on to the next one.

J Men
04-01-06, 21:13
I just back from a romp last night I met up a girl that looked like Terry Hatcher in her early 30's she had a hard body on her not a strech mark or an ounce of fat, she was drop dead georgous. Lucia had enhanced 34d's and look like a 10.

You can always tell when you hit the jackpot is you walk outside with a girl and all the men standing outside start cat calling the girl. After a quick hop upstairs in the room she started to become very playfull and started to exchange kisses and started DFK and mutual rubing and ouching we started to undress each other and on to the bed it continued, until it was time she started with a cbj, which was phenominal and was playin with the boys at the same time which almost made me cum, but I stoped and changed postions we stated in mish for a bit and the switched to doggie just the sight of this hard body was too much I lost it, I wish I could of went longer but what the hell theirs always next week.

I'll be back for a repeat. The total cost for the girl and the room was 72. 00 what a bargin, for a escort with her looks is about 350. 00 or more up in LA area.

Munch Lunch
04-01-06, 21:20
After I leave town, I will tell you about this gem. Right now, I dont want any competition for you guys!

I have been mongering a few days here in TJ and it has all blurred together. I wanted to write all these, before I get it all confused.

My God! Guys when I tell you about Lorena, you will all beat a path to her door. She is a much need alternative to the meat available in the Zona Norte. Im sure one of you will end up marrying her! I wish I didnt know better, or, I would myself.

More to cum on Lorena. I like to titilate you guys. Ok, I just gave you two clues. Can you imagine what we did

Munch Lunch
04-01-06, 21:31
There are several different types of cabs, the yellow cabs are the most expensive. The smaller white cars, with the red stripes, have Taxi Libre written on the side. They are cheap, only $10 or $20 pesos to about anywhere you want to go.

Also, there are these huge old 1960s and 70s stationwagons with the jump seat in the rear. They run on a set route throughout town. They cost about $7.5 pesos, less than a dollar. They are safe and you get to meet a lot of people. Dont worry about getting lost, they always return to where you started and you can get an hour tour of the city this way. Granted, it does not take you anywhere interesting, but is a good break from mongering.

In any other town in Mexico, I could have gotten some non pro action from this, but not here. The women here are either working girls, reserved, or a bit suspicous. Nevertheless, these taxis are a great slice of life here.

Munch Lunch
04-01-06, 21:50
In the few days I have been here, I have witnessed several nasty situations with the police. Sometimes, they sweep through the zone in groups of 4 or 5 squad cars and pickup trucks, with a dozen officers. Walk quickly, dont run, to the nearest shop, coffe shop, pharmacy, etc. Dont go in a club then, unless you have to. Get inside somewhere quickly and start talking with the store owners, who are very understanding of your need to be off the streets when the police come through. They are either going to do a search in a club or bust some bad, drug, dudes on the street.

I talked to one Mexican guy, who told me he once bought a chica and vanished into a short time hotel with her, just to quickly get off the street, during a police sweep. He said she was actually a pretty good screw because they had one thing in common, they both hated the cops.

Also, never look at a cop. Look straight ahead and keep walking if you pass by one. Dont carry Viagra as they can shake you down and accuse you of drug possession. They are really only looking for a bribe, usually. I saw and overhead and American getting this treatment.

Also, no open booze bottles in the streets. Last night, coming out of Adelitas I saw a American getting the treatment from three cops for this. To his credit, the Adelitas bouncer, barker ran over and grabed the bottle back and told the cops to beat it. The drunk American then started bitching at the Adelitas guy for taking his beer! God, he should have dropped to his knees and thanked the guy.

Well enough of this writing and posting. Im getting the hell out of the cyber cafe and get after what TJ is all about, that being PUSSY! Late guys.

Country John
04-02-06, 18:41
Hey M/Lunch, save some for the rest of the mongers! Great Trip reports. Great sessions. Sounds like you got your game working, good stuff.

A word about the cops: Remember that the Zona is a major stopping point for many criminals recently deported from the USA, (guys and girl) and there are a lot of your garden variety street people.

If the cops wern't there, there would be a lot more crime against us mongers. For all the bad reporting on the cops (every word is true) they do a lot to keep it as safe as possible.

Every day or so they do "sweeps." Looking for druggies and just to harrass the street people, keep tabs on them etc. Also if a walker hasnt paid her mordita then she could spend a night in the slammer.

It's wise to have a seat when this is going on. It's harmless to Americano Gringos, but DO NOT hang out with any street person, especially when the sweeps are going on. Thes people can hurt you. If they got drugs on them then the cops might think you're buying etc.

Just use your head.

Keep 'em coming Munchie, It soulds great.

Country John

Munch Lunch
04-02-06, 21:51
I flew out of TJ early this morning and am now in Mexico City getting ready for a business meeting tomorrow. I appreciate your reasoned and more objective post about the Policia. Yes, the Zona in TJ is full of strange and dangerous types who would target us mongers if the Policia were not there. They, maintain a strong post on the east end of the "Alley" and we should give them some credit. As I hang with Mexicans, it is the custom to complain about the Policia; or, as they say "Robbers with a badge." For the most part, Policia in the Zona are harmless for us if you just stay smart and off their radar screen.

Munch Lunch
04-02-06, 22:58
if you just get tired of the barkers, hustlers, dealers, and filth of the "zona" and "la revolucion", treat yourself to the "other" tj. tj is not at all a good tourist destination. however, there are a few things to do while you are waiting for your sperm count to recover from your last conquest.

the best place is probably along paseo de los heroes where it intersects with avenida independencia and forms a huge traffic circle. this is a new part of town and hosts the tijuana cultural center/imax theatre, the plaza rio shopping mall with two modern multi-plex theateres. this is only a $5 - 6 usd taxi ride from the zone in a taxi libre.

also, one of my favorite places in tj, except for a hooker's crotch, was el mercado hidalgo, which is a fairly large, typical mexican public market. you will find everything there: produce, spices, open air food stands (not recommedned), pinatas for sale, groceries, pottery, etc. they have a few artesania things for sale: sarapes, leather stuff, etc. at prices much lower than the stores on "la revolucion." it is quite safe there and is open from sun up to sun down. again, there is nothing special there; just a nice slice of mexico.

also, part of my typical modus operandi is hitting public markets for non pro action. over the years, i have found more than a few diamonds in the rough at these places. the reason being, a lot of the stands there are run by women, the shoppers tend to be women; either the young maids of rich families or just the housewives of middle/lower class families. many times they are up for a movie, a drink, dancing or a dinner with a foreigner. that can be very exciting for these gals. if handled correctly they understand what the price of dinner is and are often great lovers.

just be careful not imply either explicitly or implicitly, that you are looking for more than just fun; that would be dishonest. i'm usually don't try to kiss or feel them up right away; however, as the evening progresses and they feel comfortable with you, they let you know when.

Munch Lunch
04-02-06, 23:11
Just south of the border, but north of the river, is the new Pueblo Amigo Inn (a nice but expensive hotel) and Plaza Pueblo Amigo. Right there are some more upscale drinking/dancing places than you would find on "La Revolucion". They include Club Balak, Senor Frogs, etc - higher class Mexicans go there.

Also, on "La Revolucion" at about Calle (Street) 9th or 10th, is a club called "Las Pulgas". All my Mexican friends said it was good for dancing.

Munch Lunch
04-02-06, 23:48
I had a very good time in TJ, but probably won't go back. There are too many strange, dangerous, demented, poorly dressed, calloused people there. Also, it is all about money: con artistis, clock watching hookers, etc. I much prefer farther south in Mexico, where it is unspoiled, the people are more warm, friendly, honest, much cheaper, etc. As a rule, farther into the main part of Mexico the P4P girls are friendlier and more eager to please.

Here is my take: If you live in So. California, meaning a short drive, it probably makes sense to go to TJ. I sure would if I lived in So. Cal; as TJ is really is the WalMart of pussy. However, to me, it would not make sense for someone to drive a full day or fly in to San Diego to go to TJ.

For someone, like you guys in the midwest; flying to Monterrey, Mexico for some quick pussy would be a good alternative to TJ. Its cleaner, cheaper, safer, and the women are generally fun.

Also, if you have a bit more time, speak even a little Spanish, and want to experience mexican culture, I like the following:
Veracruz - great tropical music in the clubs, full of beautiful, hot, mulatto/negro girls; but its a crummy seaport and Mexican naval station. (i.e. which sailor's wife did you get to fuck this time?)
Xalapa, Morelia, Queretero - Are beautiful, colonial, university cities. (i.e. which virginal, model quality, college girl do you want to train to swallow your cum in exchange for tuition money?)
Guadalajara - My favorite city, usually get a GFE experience there.

Well, that's all for now. Thanks to all who posted previously. Your comments made my trip to TJ much safer, comfortable, and productive in scoring "chicas".

Country John
04-03-06, 16:40
Munchi is right on the mark.

You have to think of TJ as a "Pay for Play" as much downside as upside. The dynamics are greater in TJ than almost anywhere else. (Except maybe at the Bar Galleon in Guadalajara.)

The Zona is a sex machine. You enter one end with your money and an erection, you emerge out the other end with no money. The erection is optional. You have to have an understanding of how things work in Mexico in order to fully appreciate that, but just take my word for it for now.

Mexican women are not lined up at the border waiting to screw you when you come across. Mexican women are a beautiful and proud group. One thing I LOVE about them is that they are FULLY in touch with their sensuality and sexuality. A passing glance is usually returned with a faint smile. I find them to be very warm to the touch. The girls in the Zona WORK there and their job is to have sex with you for money.

The avarage Mexican girl will be polite and plesant, you would not ask her to go "up" usually.

The girls love to dress to please rather than to impress. While there is a line you do not cross, there is never any harm in letting the girl know she is beautiful and most appreciate the compliment.

I loved Monterrey and Culiacan. The women are fantastic and a different feel. I lost my heartt in Guadalajara. Ahhhhhh Guadalajara.

But the Zona is "all business." You arrive, you pay, you cum, you leave. Some vets hang out and play cards in the hotel room between runs. There are a lot of them, many are nice guys and a lot of fun.

It's a Zona alright. Complete with do's and don'ts. It can be a fun experience if you are prepared and a heartbreak if not. So be prepared. Read the board, ask questions.

Good luck Munch. Have fun and check in.

Country John

California Guy
04-04-06, 05:24
I agree with your last report. Personally if I didn't live so close I wouldn't think of going down but maybe a couple times a year, if that! If you haven't been it is fun to go and check out but to be honest it trully isn't that great. I see many here talk about how hot the girls are, the low prices, etc.. and I still haven't seen it. I maybe a little biased because I don't find the Mexican girls, well at least the ones I see in Northern Mexico, to be that pretty. Many have bellies, straight figures, no ass, no tits, and so on. Obviously the girls who travel from other areas help out and will definitely notice them working in the clubs, AB being the main attraction.

Next comes the attitudes and experience you get from these girls. You would think that many would show you a good time but from my experience I would say about 5-10% will treat you like you want to be treated, no matter the price you pay. I don't mean paying extra for a girl to suck your nuts but finding a girl who will give you a GFE experience, or close to it, seems almost impossible unless you get lucky. Also a lot of the girls register 10's on the ***** meter and for no reason really other than they are just that way. I know some guys treat them poorly but it is mainly the locals who I see gropping without paying and just being assholes in general.

Now comes these great prices people talk about which is really a bunch of crap. Think about this....You drive from LA so you pay $30 in gas, pay for parking is $5, taxis will cost you $10, a couple drinks is $8, some tale at AB is 60, room rental plus tip is $12, ******* knocking at your door in 20 flat..priceless lol no really add this up and you just paid $125 to spend 20 minutes with a girl, which is $375 an hour for your selection of hotties in the US who will give you a guaranteed hour, anything you want besides her ass, and without that drive. Don't get me wrong because I think US girls mainly over-charge as well but I am just giving an example of the true numbers here and this is almost guaranteed GFE. Of course in the US you must worry about LE but in TJ you must worry about getting robbed, shaken down, etc... so I would say it is worse knowing you are never really safe in TJ.

Anyway this is just my opinion on TJ and others will be different. Personally I am not going back for a while because I would rather save my money and travel.

Dark David
04-05-06, 06:03
Having made a couple of trips to TJ, I could not agree with California Guy more. It just isn't that great to me. And both times I ended up with chicas that put up a pretty good effort, but by the time you add up the total cost of the journey, the risks associated with TJ crime and corruption, the hassle of dealing with TJ police and criminals (often one and the same), not to mention occasionally moody customs agents when returning to the states. Plus, there is the general seediness of TJ environment...cheap hotels, dirty streets...I just don't see it as being anything special. Maybe some guys get turned on more by the seediness, but I guess that just isn't me.

At the end of the day, I'd rather spend $500 for an hour with a premium quality American call girl in a nice hotel or the comfort of my own home. Part of it is just a matter of personal preference for me, and the fact that even though some of he TJ girls are pretty hot, they'll never measure to a classy All-American girl in my book. The only advantage TJ has in my book is being able to see a broad selection of girls right before your eyes instead of having to pick one from an ad or website.

Obviously, for some guys, TJ is a great experience but for me, it is like the sex equivalent of fast food: yeah if you're hungry, it'll fill your belly, and some of it tastes alright, but it will never compare to sitting down for a steak at a five-star restaurant.

Rider Jay
04-05-06, 08:03
I agree with your last report. Personally if I didn't live so close I wouldn't think of going down but maybe a couple times a year, if that! If you haven't been it is fun to go and check out but to be honest it trully isn't that great. I see many here talk about how hot the girls are, the low prices, etc.. and I still haven't seen it. I maybe a little biased because I don't find the Mexican girls, well at least the ones I see in Northern Mexico, to be that pretty. Many have bellies, straight figures, no ass, no tits, and so on. Obviously the girls who travel from other areas help out and will definitely notice them working in the clubs, AB being the main attraction.

Next comes the attitudes and experience you get from these girls. You would think that many would show you a good time but from my experience I would say about 5-10% will treat you like you want to be treated, no matter the price you pay. I don't mean paying extra for a girl to suck your nuts but finding a girl who will give you a GFE experience, or close to it, seems almost impossible unless you get lucky. Also a lot of the girls register 10's on the ***** meter and for no reason really other than they are just that way. I know some guys treat them poorly but it is mainly the locals who I see gropping without paying and just being assholes in general.

Now comes these great prices people talk about which is really a bunch of crap. Think about this....You drive from LA so you pay $30 in gas, pay for parking is $5, taxis will cost you $10, a couple drinks is $8, some tale at AB is 60, room rental plus tip is $12, ******* knocking at your door in 20 flat..priceless lol no really add this up and you just paid $125 to spend 20 minutes with a girl, which is $375 an hour for your selection of hotties in the US who will give you a guaranteed hour, anything you want besides her ass, and without that drive. Don't get me wrong because I think US girls mainly over-charge as well but I am just giving an example of the true numbers here and this is almost guaranteed GFE. Of course in the US you must worry about LE but in TJ you must worry about getting robbed, shaken down, etc... so I would say it is worse knowing you are never really safe in TJ.

Anyway this is just my opinion on TJ and others will be different. Personally I am not going back for a while because I would rather save my money and travel.A lot of what you report is true but my math is a little different. I'm in LA for business about 5 times a year and always try to wind it up by Friday afternoon. I make my flight home for Sunday afternoon so I can shoot down to TJ for the weekend. For around $500 I get a room for 2 nights, eat and drink all I want, and get laid as many times as I can handle. You can spend that much any weekend on just a so so room at any major US city.

You are right about the dangers. There's a hustler on every corner so it's very important not to put yourself in bad positions. They didn't invent rolling drunks in TJ and you wouldn't want to walk alone in a run down, depressed, or dark area of TJ or of any inner US city for that matter. I've been down a bunch of times and never had a real problem with the street guys and never had so much as a sideways glance from a cop. Maybe I'm just lucky or maybe because I grew up in a rough neighborhood I've acquired a knack for avoiding LE and the other dangers of places like this. (Hey, now where would that fit on my today's corporate resume.) The TJ cops have plenty to do with all the young, drunk, both Mexicans and Americans, acting like idiots, putting the spot light on themselves. Besides if there was trouble with a TJ cop I'd rather pay a bribe then read about my hobby in my local paper like you can at home. The thugs are looking for stumbling drunks and people wandering off away from any witnesses. The hustles are just trying to sell you something. A polite but firm no thanks will send them off. If your smart, stay around populated areas, don't get stumbling drunk, don't make a spectacle of your, and keep aware of your surroundings, you'll be, for the most part safe. Hell, you could get mugged at home leaving church or hit by lighting walking on a nature trail. No place is completely safe.

I have a thing for young, exotic, mostly natural women and always have a great time in TJ. I like being on foreign soil and like the atmosphere of TJ. Eating off the carts, drinking in the local bars, finding those "carbon" restaurants and ending in the Zona F--king my brains out. I agree it's not the best place to find a GFE with these girls. Hell, if I take my girlfriend out on a Friday and only spent 30 bucks I doubt I'll get a GFE. Sure some of the girls just lay there and watch the clock but also some give good service. If your looking for a GFE go to the DR, I've been there or, from what I've read, go to Brazil. If you're looking for some good old sport f--king that's close, TJ a good spot.

Be Safe,

Rider Jay

Gilgamesh
04-05-06, 21:03
I'll be the first to talk about the pitfalls of TJ, but overall I have a good time. I've had the cops take 300 from me and 200 from my friend, and lost 40 on another trip. I still go down, but not as much as I once did. I've been lucky enough to have had a few GFE experiences and if I wanted that I would repeat with them, but for me I'm more interested in trying a new chica. :) I frequent AB and would sometimes have a warm up session on the street. I almost always go during the day and by myself. I don't have any problems with the locals after saying "No thanks." I'm learning to be cautious with the polica after my past experiences. Overall I like TJ, but I can't wait to try some other countries after reading info on this form. :) Thanks for all the info and happy mongering.

Lascivious
04-06-06, 01:27
Previous posters have made some great points for and against the Zona.

I too like the young, exotic, natural chicas. I am drawn to the SG's the most. That's where I most often find the FOB types that I like. Alas, they often do not provide the best GFE service, far from it.

I am not really looking for a GFE anyway, (I've got that). I look for the most beautiful young women that I can find for that trophy/sport fuck.

If I want to be pampered I go to my favorite 20 something AMP provider and she takes care of me, better than most GF's.

I think it's the anticipation of hitting the zona, on the prowl for the next new FOB hottie, that appeals to me the most. Stateside with an escort you know what you're getting, (if you do your research). In TJ I have a live flesh smorgasbord awaiting me, only a15 minute drive away. That’s the allure of the Zona.

My TJ tabs is usually is this:

$9.00-Parking
$10.00-Cab
$5.50-Hotel
$30.00-SG, sin ropas.

$ 54.50

Blue Nose
04-06-06, 04:35
Here is my take: If you live in So. California, meaning a short drive, it probably makes sense to go to TJ. I sure would if I lived in So. Cal; as TJ is really is the WalMart of pussy. However, to me, it would not make sense for someone to drive a full day or fly in to San Diego to go to TJ.

Munch Lunch - Great Trip Reports! Thanks for sharing. You're not the first guy to compare the zone to a sex Wal Mart. In fact, if Wal-Mart ran la zona norte it would probably look and operate very much like it does now, albeit with better lighting. There is something for everybody in TJ, and I think the trick is to figure out what you like and where you can get it in the zone for the best price. Lots of guys here like to bang hot SGs or go for the trophy porno-fuck from ABs. Others, like me, enjoy the semi-pros and prefer the true GFE latina experience that can only come from being a regular with a girl.

In my opinion, Mexican women are the sexiest women on the planet (a bold statement, I know, but one of opinion rather than fact). Their down-to-earth and simple personalities capture my heart and their raw sensuality takes my breath away. Every time. TJ is both a blessing and a curse for those of us who live in California, for no matter what your idea of an ideal time in TJ is, it is almost certain that it cannot be easily replicated north of the border.

Now that you're gone, can you give us the 4-1-1 on Lorena?

Blue Nose

Rider Jay
04-06-06, 05:28
Previous posters have made some great points for and against the Zona.

I too like the young, exotic, natural chicas. I am drawn to the SG's the most. That's where I most often find the FOB types that I like. Alas, they often do not provide the best GFE service, far from it.

I am not really looking for a GFE anyway, (I've got that). I look for the most beautiful young women that I can find for that trophy/sport fuck.

If I want to be pampered I go to my favorite 20 something AMP provider and she takes care of me, better than most GF's.

I think it's the anticipation of hitting the zona, on the prowl for the next new FOB hottie, that appeals to me the most. Stateside with an escort you know what you're getting, (if you do your research). In TJ I have a live flesh smorgasbord awaiting me, only a15 minute drive away. That’s the allure of the Zona.

My TJ tabs is usually is this:

$9.00-Parking
$10.00-Cab
$5.50-Hotel
$30.00-SG, sin ropas.

$ 54.50Lascivious, that was much better said then I did in my long winded post. You're lucky. You can take a 15 minute drive any time you want. Sport F--k, and then go home. Repeat in a day, a week, a month or any time you want something new. I also like something new. I often pass a SG that I know provides great service to try one I haven't seen before just because she's fine and new. Sometimes it's the right choice and sometimes it's a dead fish. Shit, for $35 including room it's worth the gamble even if it's the wrong choice. Worst thing that can happen is I’ll still get to bust a nut and, if they aren't too enthusiastic, it only takes me longer and in the end makes them work harder.

I always the put my credit cards and jewelry away and hit the ATM for $500 just before I head across. That's why I put my TJ tab for the $500 but I never come home empty so maybe that numbers a little high. Let me break down my TJ tab:

$180 for 6 SG's at $30 a rattle for suky, fuky, sin ropa (2 on Fri., 3 on Sat., since I have all day and night, and 1 on Sun. morning before I scramble to the airport.)
$30 - Rooms for enjoying the 6SG's.
$100 - Room "to sleep in" for 2 nights
That leave $190 for a few $1 tacos off the street carts, many $1 beers, a few $2 shots of tequila, a couple of $5 Cocktail de Cameron off the carts and maybe 2 chicken dinners at one of those sit down Carbon (cooked over wood charcoal) restaurants for a total of $20. Seems like a value to me.

Be Safe, Rider Jay

Munch Lunch
04-07-06, 02:33
Now that you're gone, can you give us the 4-1-1 on Lorena?
Blue Nose

Blue Nose - I guess I can, but I was reluctant, because I was thinking about flying her into Mexico City for the weekend. However, my steady PFP is back from visiting her family in Veracruz.

Lorena can be found at bar Mexico Lindo on the north side of Calle 7 (Galeana) just west of Avenida Revolucion. It is the only bar in the middle of the block, has lots of Mexican tile on the front, and dark exterior lighting. It is a quiet, juke box, small bar for locals, although you may occasionally find a gringo there. Just walk in, walk around the bar a view the "chicas." There are usually only 4 or 5 there. Lorena is the only one worth a second look; most are either old or homely.

She is about 30 years old, slender (almost petite), 5' 1'', longer brunette (dyed) hair. She often dresses in a business, sport coat and rarely looks slutty. She works late afternoons, early evenings Tue - Sat and has Sun -Monday off. She is proud to never have worked in one of the "clubs", she doesn't get tons of clients (but at her prices she doesn't need many). She is totally GFE; that is if you could ever find a girlfriend who fucks like a mink!

After scoping out the merchandise, I sat at the u-shaped bar opposite Lorena and a safe distance from the ugly talent - who will try to distract you. I ordered a drink and told the bar keep, "One for the Senorita, over there." Upon receiving her drink, she nodded her head in appreciation and gave me a Julia Robert's smile. While not breaking eye contact with her, I walked over and sat by her. We chatted, we laughed, we hugged, we carressed. There was chemistry for us beyond what dollars can buy. It way just like picking up a business woman (non pro) in a Hilton hotel bar somewhere in Latin America.

The drinks were very cheap, can't remember, but less than 1/2 what the big clubs charge. To take Lorena out you pay the bar keep $15. No pressure for extra drinks. We settled on $100/hour, which was to begin after we arrived in my hotel room.

The Taxi Libre ride to the Hotel Santiago is about $15 pesos. Just hold her hand in the taxi, talk to her and don't get fresh yet. By the way she speaks no English, but I am bi-lingual. I told her that I might mention her to my friends who might not know Spanish. She laughed and said, just tell them to say "Hotel" (pronounced "Otel") and "cien dolares" ($100 USD). The rest is all body language!

Upon entering the room we turned down the bed, took each others clothes off, and took a good hot, sensual shower together. She has a solid 8 body, with perky "B" cup boobs, trimmed but not shaved pubis, and has no fat - just good thin hips and curvy butt.

In bed she was fabulous, as I said, we just had chemistry. Your mileage may vary. She seemed to be able to anticipate every need, every coming change of position, and just melted into my arms. BBBJ, on with the condom, five positions, DATY (I brought my own latex dental dam), she climaxed, and then I took the condom off and jacked to finish on her boobs as she lay beside me. She let me massage my cum into her tits and was not shy about it. Then, another nice shower. I noticed a slight wrinkle on her brow under the bright light as she put her make up back on; but other than that she could have been a 20-year old. (Nice, she puts the makeup back on after she gives you the entire hour of service.)

I escorted her back to the bar by taxi and discreetly gave her a $10 tip. I walked along the Avenida Revolucion, back to my hotel. I was a happy camper, walking along with my heart singing and my nut sack totally empty.

The next night, I spent 2 hours with her for $180. She was even more passionate and loving than the first night. We ended up going for about two and one-half hours; she never rushed me. Then, I gave her a $30 tip and took her back to the bar. I am sure I could have negotiated a better deal with her either night; but I sensed this was not the time to be "penny wise and pound foolish". I was absolutely right. I have paid $300 USD/hour for girls like her here in Mexico City.

OK, guys, not to bore you. Based on what she told me about what she likes and dislikes, if you want her to really get hot for you here are some tips. Take a shower and put on clean clothing before going to her bar; she doesn't like guys who smell like they have been clubbing and womanizing. Don't be drunk or high. Dress somewhat formally; I had on a nice sport coat, silk t-shirt, blue jeans, and nice shoes and belt - the Don Johnson/Miami Vice look; she loved it.

Take it slow with her and she will give you more than you expected. In summary, she is not a SG or calloused PFP that you have to force into positions, etc. Simply one of the kindest, most sexy, passionate, gals I have ever had. She will not take advantage of you or try to cheat you.

I hope your experiences with her are as good as mine where. Good luck!

Country John
04-07-06, 06:22
Munchie, that's awesome. I know the girl (I think) same session very gfe but a solid business person. Interesting. That's the way my girley is every session and they just keep getting better. Very cool.

Country John

Thunderbolt47
04-07-06, 09:56
Swore I would never go back last year, but rules are meant to be broken. I actually had a lota fun this time. Surprisingly I was not harassed by policia and it seemed pretty quiet even for a Wed nite.

Decided to try “Peanuts and Beer” this time. I enjoyed the late night talent but I liked two other Revolution Ave. clubs better- “Beverly Hills” and “Aloha”. 2 private “hands on” dances for 20 bucks standard at these clubs. Of course always the multitudes of ugly old fat slugs and bartenders acting as greedy, irritating, intermediaries to ruin the fun- one of the many things I hate about TJ. Some great talent at “Beverly hills” including one outstanding blonde. Mini dances stageside were outstanding by most of the dancers as they are trying to entice you into other activities.

There is a (new?) hotel at the corner of the alley (same side as Hong Kong) with wooden floors that is outstanding for 12 dollars. I would not go anywhere else for any price. I was not asked for a cleanup fee.

T-bolt

Thunderbolt47
04-07-06, 10:04
For a place to get an OUTSTANDING Professional massage- try VivaMex Day Spa very close to “Beverly Hills” on Revolucion. No sex available- Just a GREAT massage. “Norma” is recommended- not beautiful, but very competent. You can tell she has had some real training. VERY impressive facilities with nice relaxing music. 45 min for $25 USD.

No, I don’t work for them- I was just very impressed.

T-Bolt

Country John
04-07-06, 17:15
This is not an advertisement Jackson, just info. I know the owner of the Spa, so I can vouch for the business. It is a TOTALLY LEGIT spa, no sex, no happy endings etc. The staff are professionally trained, well paid for there service and the company has high ethical standards. It is American owned and the restaurant downstairs is also the same business.

Patronize the place. It is a considerable investment by the owner and the service reviews are fantastic.

Country John

Boeing1048
04-08-06, 15:17
I can vouch for the spa it is totally legit. Very nice massage I went last month I forget who I had but very profeesional and no sex. But it is nice to relax in the zona once in a while. Shower was offered but I did not partake

Manofba
04-08-06, 16:37
"We settled on $100/hour, which was to begin after we arrived in my hotel room."
That's crazy man. It is Mexico, and although close to the USA it is still Mexico. Who pays 100 dls. in TJ? it is foolish no matter how good a service you get.

Don't ruin it. Pay according to local customs.

Smut Villain
04-08-06, 23:53
"We settled on $100/hour, which was to begin after we arrived in my hotel room."
That's crazy man. It is Mexico, and although close to the USA it is still Mexico. Who pays 100 dls. in TJ? it is foolish no matter how good a service you get.

Don't ruin it. Pay according to local customs.
That really is a steep price for Tijuana, but I also remember that Mexico Lindo providers charge a premium on their pussy anyways. They've always been much more expensive than the fuck factories at AB and Chicago, which may explain why you don't see nearly as many gringo mongers there. Of course the typical service there is also above and beyond anything you'd get at the other places, and Mexico Lindo tends to carry more 8's and 9's than the other places as well (they'd better, for the prices they charge).

Don't worry, those prices he quoted are pretty much isolated to that particular overpriced bar so he hasn't ruined anything.

Munch Lunch
04-09-06, 02:23
"We settled on $100/hour, which was to begin after we arrived in my hotel room." That's crazy man. It is Mexico, and although close to the USA it is still Mexico. Who pays 100 dls. in TJ? it is foolish no matter how good a service you get. Don't ruin it. Pay according to local customs.
Estimado Guillela & Smut Villain:
I certainly understand your concern, because I certainly don't like gringos throwing too much money after pussy. It ruins it for all of us. However, my payments and tips to the Mexico Lindo girl, both nights, were right on the market per local customs. That is exactly what my Mexican business associates pay. In fact, some of them have had Lorena. In TJ, for a close to model quality, out-call girl to come to your hotel for a full hour, that is the price. Some even pay more, if you get her from an agency or ad.

You will note in my other posts about my dealings with the girls in the "alley" or the club Tropical, I was very cost concious...as we all should be. It is all just a matter of what experience you are after. I too, like the variety and excitement of having a lot of "alley" girls. I also love an occasional romp (as someone here said earlier "a porn movie experience") with a looker from a club like Adelitas. In this trip, I had a little of everything and wanted to finish off my stay with a top shelf girl.

Nevertheless, bear with me here a little bit; we're all friends in this forum trying to help each other. Pricing can be deceiving; so, let's do some comparison shopping on naked girls on a hourly basis:

From the Alley or SW: $20 - $25 "con ropa" or $25 - $30 "sin ropa" (naked) for about 15 - 20 minutes of actual fuck time. Let's round this up to hourly increments: 20 min. x 3 sessions = 60 minutes. Thus, $30 x 3 = $90/hr. Plus, $7 for the hot sheet hotel. Total: $97/ hr.

Adelitas: Say $55 - $60 for about 20 or 30 minutes max. Thus, $55 x 2 = $110/hr or $55 x 3 = $165/hr. Plus, $12 - $15 for the room upstairs. Total: Somewhere between $125 - $180/hr.; let's split the difference and say $150/hr. (I'm being kind here to the club owners; because you will likely end up buying a few overpriced drinks before fucky sucky time with club girls.)

Mexico Lindo: $100 base cost/hr + $15 bar fine + taxi round trip $3 = $118/hr (Also, if you wanted to, you could throw in Lorena's drink and mine together were about $4 or $5 total.)

I left out tips, because that is entirely up to you. There are some other options in TJ, but the above three examples are the most common for most of us mongers. An hour's worth of pussy in TJ costs between $97 - $150/hr. I was at the lower to mid end of the range at $118/hr.

The real point here is that TJ is entirely a "rational" market. It is very competitve from both a buyers and sellers point of view. And there are few "bargains" or "special deals" to be had. It is WalMart. If you like variety, go with three street girls. If you like the exotic, club girls, go with them. If you want a near model quality girl in the relaxed comfort of your hotel room get a Lorena. I did all all three different experiences and enjoyed them all.

Whether you agree with me or not, we are dealing with business women here who price their product very consistently depending on the quality of the product and supply/demand. I really learned the above pricing in Asuncion, Paraguay and Lima, Peru. In Asuncion, you can get a street girl for $6 for a few minutes or an absolute top model quality girl for all night for $100 - $125. I did both. In Lima, at the famous brothels, you can get a girl for $7 for 15 minutes or an elegant call girl for $30/hr. In these brothels, the good looking girls can easily turn 20 - 25 tricks in an 8 hour shift.

Finally, there are health and saftey issues. Even if we use condoms, which protect us from the majority of STDs, were are exposed to things like herpes and even the common cold. The TJ club girls and street girls simply go through more clients than the Mexico Lindo girls do and the sanitary conditions are not as good. So, your odds on health are not as good.

I agee with the intention behind both of you gentlemen's comments: 1) don't overpay, 2) alway pay just what the local market is and not more, and 3) don't "damage" or overprice the market for your brothers who come in after you to play.

Nevertheless, depending on what you are looking for, pussy prices in TJ could vary widely per session; but are usually somewhat consistent on an hourly basis. Though I have not yet done so; I would actually pay $500/hr for a fuck hour with one of the former Miss Universe beauty participants - and there are some of these girls out there in the third world counties. But, I would also be quite happy to bury my Johnson in a TJ alley girl for $25 for 15 minutes. Neither pricing would be crazy or outside the regular, local, market parameters.

I monger with my business associates, who are natives of whatever country I am in, and have never been accused of overpaying. And believe me, these guys are very good. Most of them started mongering at age 15; rather than waiting until after a divorce or two like most of us US mongers did.

Well, Guillela and Smut Villain; thank you for your comments. Price is something worth debating here in the forum. Nevertheless, be sure not to compare apples to oranges.

Happy mongering.
Munch Lunch

QuackUp
04-09-06, 04:21
After a couple of months, I finally made it down south. First went to adelitas to see what the renovations were. It does look nice but there is still something about the way it was that I liked.

There were only a few hotties so I got a drink and waited around. About 20 minutes later I see this blond hottie and I call her over and buy her a drink. I find out she is one of the Brazillian girls in town. I love brazillian girls so I take her up. She said it would be $60 and the money up front.

I told her I never pay up front. She kept insisting until she says if I don't pay up front it's over. Again I told her I don't pay up front and start to put my clothes back on. Once she sees me doing this, she said okay, for you, you can pay after, yea whatever. In the back of my mind I'am thinking this is not going to be any good. On the other hand, all the brazillian chicks I had in brazil were all gfe so what the heck.

To make a long story short, no kissing, no finger probes, covered everything. I got my rocks off with a hottie but no gfe at all, would I repeat, no! I can't remember her name but it was a unique one. She is about 5'4" with blond hair. She was wearing a bikini when I met her.

Feeling a little unsatisfied, I went over to T/b and Marielos was there. We went to the hotel and had a great time. Total gfe. I think this girl has some Brazillian blood in her. She just doesn't quit. Highly recommended.

After Marielos, I was drained and went home a happy camper.

On the earlier post, M l paid the going rate at M/L. I remember when M/L was the place to be and even back then, the going rate was $100 plus bar fine. This was when you could go to C/C and take a girl upstairs for $30.00.

Q

Hardbarg
04-09-06, 19:40
I like to think that I am as cost conscious as anyone. I agree 100% with Guillela's attitude, but I'm afraid he is not very current factually. There is relentless price creep in TJ as more US guys get up the nerve to find lifestyle alternatives. Munch Lunch's pricing analysis is pretty accurate. As he points out, US clients are often sadly naive, and free with their money.

If you take a look at craigslist you'll see that the going rate for TJ escorts is a pretty consistent $150/hr. Those guys are typically the least adventurous gringos who compare the prices against LA outcall services to convince themselves what a deal they're getting. Price creep.

Just to be even handed I'll point out that Munch Lunch may be overpaying a little at Adelitas. With the exception of the trophy fucks (almost always robot sex) if you stick to your guns just about any of the girls will go for $50. If you pay attention to exchange rates and are nimble in moving back and forth pesos/$$ you can often do 10% better than that. The problem is that many/most gringos won't stand their ground.

Last time down (Chicago club) I got a real hard sell from a very attractive chica. Gave me an unsolicited lap dance just to say hello. She quoted the standard $60, I countered $50. She acted all offended then went off and sulked. She kept circling the room, stopping to glare at me 2 or 3 times. I just smiled. After about an hour she came back and agreed to $50. Bargaining is war - play to win.

If this is the first time in TJ for Munch Lunch I'm very impressed. To hit the ground running like he did is not easy. Maybe even more impressive is his ability to find a gem at Mexico Lindo. This place seems committed to living on past glory. It was THE place some years back, priced accordingly. I don't think I've seen a doable girl there for years. Mostly older and larger ladies with delusions of grandeur on pricing. I think they keep the place as dark as the bat cave on purpose. Well done ML.

Munch Lunch
04-10-06, 01:20
IJust to be even handed I'll point out that Munch Lunch may be overpaying a little at Adelitas. With the exception of the trophy fucks (almost always robot sex) if you stick to your guns just about any of the girls will go for $50. If you pay attention to exchange rates and are nimble in moving back and forth pesos/$$ you can often do 10% better than that. The problem is that many/most gringos won't stand their ground.

Hardbarg,
Thank you for the kind words. I like your style. If we all stuck to our guns like you do, there would be a massive fall off in P4P prices in heavily used places like TJ. I did not actually use one of the gals at Adelitas; but was rather using that price more as a "typical" pricing that a monger might encounter in the clubs.

For my club girl experience, I went a block north to the Tropical. Generally, the girls there are not near as exotic as Adelitas. But, there were a couple of lookers and they were more eager for business. My gal started at $60 and we negotiated down to $45 and she generously gave me a full one-half hour or more of good care.

As you noted, we can just say no and wait a while. Generally, gals even in places like Adelitas, will circle back and be happy for the the $50. That is smart mongering. Treating these girls as the businesswomen they are, and bargaining hard, will not insult them; many times they will respect you and service you better.

My standard opening line, after a working girl quotes me an outrageous price, is to smile, and say "Quien soy yo, Carlos Slim?" When I say that, the girls instantly pick up on it, always laugh, and smile. Then we start playfully negotiating like good Latin business people. ("Quien" is pronounced "Key-In".) In English it means: "Who am I, Carlos Slim?" As most of you know, he is the billionare owner of Telemex and other companies. This year Forbes named him the third richest man on the planet. As you say, we gotta keep the US price creep out of TJ.

On another note, when I am in one location for several days, a goal of mine is generally to sample the entire smorgasborg (range) of chicas. In TJ, I bagged a SWG, Alley Girl, Club Girl, and an out-call girl. I came up short on a non pro girl. Made several good plays at public markets, movie theatres, grocery stores, shared taxis, etc. for non pros but came up short. Oh well, getting three out of four isn't bad and I left a happy camper.

Monday night I leave Mexico City for the states. Well, my happy johnson and the twins will have to wait another month, till my next biz trip south.

Happy mongering,
M. L.

Rider Jay
04-11-06, 04:27
For a place to get an OUTSTANDING Professional massage- try VivaMex Day Spa very close to “Beverly Hills” on Revolucion. No sex available- Just a GREAT massage. “Norma” is recommended- not beautiful, but very competent. You can tell she has had some real training. VERY impressive facilities with nice relaxing music. 45 min for $25 USD.

No, I don’t work for them- I was just very impressed.

T-BoltCountry John and others have vouched for this place and I agree. A professional 45 minute massage can really relax and loosen the muscles after all that walking around. For $25 plus a $5 tip it's a nice treat. I used to go to Aztec Massage on Revoution but it's located right over a loud club and it's way too noisy for a massage. This place is the same price but a much nicer and quieter set up. The girls aren't real pretty and it's non-sexual but, since you can't screw for 24 hours a day, (can you?) it's a great way to spend an hour.

Be Safe, Rider Jay

Country John
04-13-06, 04:20
Civilians are a different story in Mexico. I've tried mongering in the free market and it's tough mainly because I don;t have the time to fuck with it. She's either going to go or she's not. Civilians don't have time.

Having said that, I want to add that I've met some of the most beautiful women I ever saw in the Mexican civilian world. My Lord, they are something else. They are a breed apart from Americana Gringas in almost every way.

If you have the time (and I'm talking TIME) then you can nurture a relationship with almost any mexican lady. If you're game is on and you're cool, you'll score but you'll inherit a relationship! Be careful!!

Country John

Belldude2
04-13-06, 08:09
Hey guys,

Not only are the girls at Tropical not as "exotic" as the augmented hotties at Adelitas, but they are also way more innocent. Tropical is known for having the newest most innocent cuties from all over Mexico. I always make it a point to make it to Tropical. I have actually had the best sessions from tropical because the girls really want to have a better experience because they are more innocent than the other clubs. I LOVE TROPICAL!


Hardbarg,

Thank you for the kind words. I like your style. If we all stuck to our guns like you do, there would be a massive fall off in P4P prices in heavily used places like TJ. I did not actually use one of the gals at Adelitas; but was rather using that price more as a "typical" pricing that a monger might encounter in the clubs.

For my club girl experience, I went a block north to the Tropical. Generally, the girls there are not near as exotic as Adelitas. But, there were a couple of lookers and they were more eager for business. My gal started at $60 and we negotiated down to $45 and she generously gave me a full one-half hour or more of good care.

As you noted, we can just say no and wait a while. Generally, gals even in places like Adelitas, will circle back and be happy for the the $50. That is smart mongering. Treating these girls as the businesswomen they are, and bargaining hard, will not insult them; many times they will respect you and service you better.

My standard opening line, after a working girl quotes me an outrageous price, is to smile, and say "Quien soy yo, Carlos Slim?" When I say that, the girls instantly pick up on it, always laugh, and smile. Then we start playfully negotiating like good Latin business people. ("Quien" is pronounced "Key-In".) In English it means: "Who am I, Carlos Slim?" As most of you know, he is the billionare owner of Telemex and other companies. This year Forbes named him the third richest man on the planet. As you say, we gotta keep the US price creep out of TJ.

On another note, when I am in one location for several days, a goal of mine is generally to sample the entire smorgasborg (range) of chicas. In TJ, I bagged a SWG, Alley Girl, Club Girl, and an out-call girl. I came up short on a non pro girl. Made several good plays at public markets, movie theatres, grocery stores, shared taxis, etc. for non pros but came up short. Oh well, getting three out of four isn't bad and I left a happy camper.

Monday night I leave Mexico City for the states. Well, my happy johnson and the twins will have to wait another month, till my next biz trip south.

Happy mongering,

M. L.

Lascivious
04-15-06, 20:04
A lot of bad press about TJ/boarder area lately. Travel warnings on the news last night. A fourth kidnap victim. Brave mongers will persevere. Here's a vid news link if anyone is interested.

http://www.kusi.com/news/local/2633326.html#

California Guy
04-17-06, 20:34
A lot of bad press about TJ/boarder area lately. Travel warnings on the news last night. A fourth kidnap victim. Brave mongers will persevere. Here's a vid news link if anyone is interested.

http://www.kusi.com/news/local/2633326.html#

I think these have all been kidnappings on the US side right and they were taken to TJ? I only noticed the report on the link you posted.

Ceefo
04-18-06, 04:35
There's something more going on here. All of the people involved had either ties to Mexico or businesses IN Mexico somehow. I wonder how many of these people involved didn't pay the right person a 'fee' or something similar. It's all very strange.

Rider Jay
04-19-06, 04:38
Oh shit, Kidnappings! Before I read the last few posts my biggest worry was trying not to get overcharged for P4P. I'm pretty sure your random monger is not the kidnappers biggest target but don't get me wrong, keep your eyes open. As I've said before, just like in any big city, stay aware of what's going on around you.

The last time Iwas in TJ was about 1 month ago and I couldn't help but notice the price creep that a few of you have been mentioning. 2 different SGs asked for $50 when I inquired about suky, fuky, sin ropa, 2 positions. $50, where do you go from there? In both cases I just shook my head and walked away. When they start that high I won't even humor them with negotiations. Even the often talked about Guadalupe asked for $40 for the 1st time. Of course after I smiled and said $30 was all I would pay, she agreed and gave me the usual good service. Since I'm always looking for something new I rarely repeat. This is one of the few girls that I see about every 3rd trip. She is very pretty and has a great attitude. She stands across from the entrance of the ally, just down from the police sub station. Speaking of the sub station. Coming from the very sexually repressed US I always get the biggest kick out of walking past it and seeing SGs sitting on police cars, soliciting customers. I'd like to see that in any US city.

In a few weeks I am heading to LA on a Business trip that will keep me there from Monday till Friday. This time I'll take a late flight the Friday before to San Deigo and head over the border. On Monday morning I'll drive to LA and the on Friday I'll head back to TJ for a 2nd weekend. With 2 weekends to play I intend to stay in a few different hotels and try some spots that I haven't been to before. I'll make sure and report what I find.

Be Safe,

Rider Jay

Smut Villain
04-20-06, 01:13
There's something more going on here. All of the people involved had either ties to Mexico or businesses IN Mexico somehow. I wonder how many of these people involved didn't pay the right person a 'fee' or something similar. It's all very strange.
I think Ceefo has a point here. I don't think they're just snatching up random "Joe Schmoes" off the street and asking for ransom; instead, I'm inclined to believe they are either "casing" their victims, or choosing them due to some percieved wealth or status (of course their perception of the victims' value isn't always accurate, becuase appearances can be decieving). Otherwise I don't think the guys who kidnapped that Korean would ask for (and expect to actually get) a million dollars.

ImTheMan1
04-20-06, 23:59
will be in tj this Saturday. Anyone interested in Meeting up? BTW how do you say "handjob" in spanish? anyone?

Jazzngolf
04-21-06, 02:14
Hi Guys,

I am flying into SD tomorrow for a weekend of fun in TJ. I will be staying in SD and a friend of mine recently told me getting back across the border is a nightmare and he stood in line for 2 hours. Could someone please tell me the best times to try and come back across to the US and more importantly the worst times to avoid in terms of waiting. Thanks a lot for your help.

Jazz

Toad Tamer
04-21-06, 07:02
Park on the San Diego side and walk across. Take a taxi for $5 into the zone. I normally park at the motel next to Jack in the Box, $4.


Hi Guys,

I am flying into SD tomorrow for a weekend of fun in TJ. I will be staying in SD and a friend of mine recently told me getting back across the border is a nightmare and he stood in line for 2 hours. Could someone please tell me the best times to try and come back across to the US and more importantly the worst times to avoid in terms of waiting. Thanks a lot for your help.

Jazz

Lascivious
04-21-06, 10:40
It is very hit and miss lately. New procedures have made the lines longer. Of course it depends on the time that you try to cross. In the wee hours of the morning it is usually little to no wait. Sat afternoon is a different matter all together.

Try hopping on one of the little $2 buses that run near the line. Even if it is not much faster at least you can sit while you wait.


Pedestrian Wait Time Estimates:

San Ysidro: 619-690-8999

Otay: 619-671-8999

Bolthead
04-22-06, 05:11
Anyone been to Maria Bonitas?

Heres my story:

A group of 4 of us were making our first trip down, with only the knowledge passed down to us from friends. Parked for $7 bucks on the US side, walked down to the border.

Cabbie grabbed us and told us $7 for the ride. We knew we wanted to head to Hong Kong and then AB (because our buddies had told us about those palces), but we asked the Cabbie what he thought. I asked him about Chicago, and he asked if I was gay! I said HELL no, and he said that place has chicks with dicks. We all agreed no CC (believed him). He talked us out of AB saying it gets bad on Saturday nights because of all the guys that go there - the chicks would be coming up and down and up and down. We said no thanks to that (again, we believed him). We asked him where we should go - we said we wanted to drink first. He took us to some small strip club - Purple or something. We had a couple of beers and then left because it was so dead in there. He was outside waiting for us, so we got in and told him that place sucked. So he took us to Platinum.

WOW!

Hot chicks there...really cool strip club. He warned us no sex, and we were cool with it. We just wanted to get warmed up before getting laid at ABs. $8 cover charger (WTF!) but once we got in, chicks everywhere! Super hot ones too. Its really a cool strip joint. Got talked into a dance for $20 - this chick had a fat ass and was really sexy. She talked me into $20 more (after I said no like 50 times), saying "everything". I said what does "everything" mean? She said masturbate. I ponied up the $40 bucks, thinking it was a good deal and she was hot. Well it was a great lap dance, but she never jerked me off. All she did was grab my cock with my pants still on. The dance ended and I was pissed. I told the dudes there that she lied to me, and she said something to them like "loco" - that pissed me off so bad!

Went back to the booth and waited for one of my buddies - he got a dance too. Turns out, he got ripped off as well...his chick actually let him pentrate, but she got off and said $60 more to finish. He said no thanks. So that place sucks for sex - the cabbie was right. Great strip club if thats what you want, but don't go to Platinum and expect to get off. Those girls are PROS and will try to get as much money off you as possible.

We left after an hour. We were all kinda pissed and just wanted to get laid. Problem was, 2 of my buddies were too low on cash now. We had to go all the way back to the parking lot in the US to grab my buddy's ATM card. Then we came back to our cabbie and had him drive us around looking for an ATM that was open.

I was like 1am at this point, and the cabbie said most places close at like 2am. So we were rushing. Finaly we get to an ATM, my friend pulls cash, and the Cabbie takes us to get laid. He said he knows a place (again, he wouldnt take us to AB) for $80 everything, full sex. We were all game.

The place was Maria Bonitas and FINALLY we were happy. We walked in, the pimp demanded the money. We paid, then chose our girl. There was about 8 chicks there, couple really hot ones. I picked a cute, shy girl named Camilla.

She took me upstairs to this little room. It was like a doctors bed, with a paper sheet on it. Tiny room, but there was a mirror and the lights were on a dimmer. It was all really sanitary, which made me comfortable. She told me to undress and she left and came back about 10mins later.

She was really sexy. Told me to lay on my stomach and she gave me a 10 minute massage. Really gentle, put lotion all over my body. I was surprised how turned on I was, and was so relaxed I barely noticed that I had a major boner. It was a bit surprising to find her putting on my condom with me "standing at the ready"!

She got on her back, and said "listo?"

Oh man, I was soo turned on. She was so cute, in a sweet, girl-next door way. Great ass, perky tits, pretty face, amazing brown eyes, great long brown hair. I fucked her mish the whole time, and she was really liking it. She was so hot, and the mirror made things so sexy, that I almost busted early like twice! I had to really controll myself because I wanted to do her so good. She treated me like a king - I wanted to return the favor. I like to really take it slow, sort of like enjoying a fine meal. I figured since I spent the money, i wanted to get the most out of it. I was kissing all up on her neck, holding her close while staying in the mish the whole time. It was the best GFE I had. I felt like she was loving it, and I KNOW i was. I finished up, and it was great. There was a roll of toliet paper so I cleaned up and went downstairs to wait for my buddies. Theres a nice couch with a TV. I was so relaxed. Took a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) to clean the tubing, and my buddies came down and we left with big grins on our faces.

I thought about Camila for a week after. I want to go steal her away! She was great!

BUT! I spent 140 during my night down there, and I know I could spend less next time. I wouldnt mind hitting up a couple of Streetwalkers, but dont know anything about how to do it. I still have yet to go to AB, so thats an idea too.

Any suggestions? Or is $80 a good deal considering how good of a time I had? I would definetly go back to Maria Bonitas...i think its a "massage" parlor.

Time4aSpliff
04-22-06, 19:39
As a general rule of thumb, it's a good idea to politely turn down any recommendations that a cabbie may offer. Many of the cabbies are in cahoots with some of the massage parlors and strip clubs that directly compete with the most popular clubs (i.e. AB). They're lookin' for a kick-back.

I've noticed that some of the cabbies will say anything to steer you clear of the Zona proper.

I think it's great that you ended hookin'-up with a hottie anyways but you guys should check out the Zona for some SG and AB action. Much better selection and overall better prices.

With regard to trannies at Chicago, that's news to me but always keep your eyes and ears wide open whilst mongering.

Oh by the way, how long did you have to wait in line when you returned to the States?

Good luck.

Reinaldo
04-22-06, 23:43
Or is $80 a good deal considering how good of a time I had? I would definetly go back to Maria Bonitas...i think its a "massage" parlor.

You didn't mention how long you were in the room with the chica. If it was for an hour you got a very good deal.

BTW the cabby gets a commission up to $20 for taking you to a mp. That's why he didn't want to take you to HK or Chicago.

Goodfeller
04-23-06, 00:14
JazznGolf,

I've crossed many times and have generally found that daytime is typically worst. Morning and afternoon can be 2 hour waits but generally less early in the afternoon and at night. I've had no waits late at night if that's an option. Avoid your typical rush hour times. But, very late is quickest.

Bolthead
04-23-06, 00:20
You didn't mention how long you were in the room with the chica. If it was for an hour you got a very good deal.

BTW the cabby gets a commission up to $20 for taking you to a mp. That's why he didn't want to take you to HK or Chicago.No it wasnt an hour. it was more like a half hour (i think?), but there was no clock watching or anything. We went as long as it took me to get off.

Thumperr
04-23-06, 03:28
I think these have all been kidnappings on the US side right and they were taken to TJ? I only noticed the report on the link you posted.


I love it!!!

Kusi is hebrew for pussy!

Hilo Boy
04-24-06, 20:19
Could someone please tell me about the service Team Juanita? The girls look to good to be true. I have seen a post saying it is a ripoff. Could you please explain what the problem is with this service?

Thanks!

QuackUp
04-25-06, 00:35
As they say, timing is everything. No matter where you monger, Brazil, Thailand, Tj.. A good example, last Saturday, me and a friend went to Tj.. First stop B/T.. We go in and there are about 3 to 4 outstanding looking chicas I would have loved to done. I was meeting Marielos there so all I did was look. My friend was telling me how he took a bunch of friends here the week before but there was no talent what so-ever. All his friends left the bar disappointed vowing never to return to this bar.

My friend was commenting on how if his same friends were here last Saturday, their view of the bar would have been so much different. I guess my point is, you never know what you are going to find but never stop looking even if your last trip was somewhat of a disappointment.

Anyways, Marielos set up my friend with one of her girlfriends and we went to dinner then to La Ma Masion to finish off the evening.

We went to dinner and I highly recommend this place, Cheripan. It is an Argentine restaurant and we all had the steaks. Everyone loved it. The atmostphere is like going to an upscale restaurant in L.A.. They have different prices for the steaks but the one I got was for $15.00usd and I took half of it home. Just like the gourmet restaurants here, everyting is ala carte.

The dinner and drinks for the 4 of us came out to roughly $100usd. If you want to impress that special girl, I recommend this restaurant. It is located near the Grand Hotel to give you an idea of what section of town it is in.

Q

Reinaldo
04-26-06, 00:33
Could someone please tell me about the service Team Juanita? The girls look to good to be true. I have seen a post saying it is a ripoff. Could you please explain what the problem is with this service?

Thanks!

I have never gone with any of the girls from Team Juanita because I'm not willing to pay $150 an hour. That said my understanding is that Team Juanita is legit. The girls are for real.

Muff Eater
04-28-06, 10:11
Does anyone know how long it takes to drive from the border to the San Diego airport at around 6am on a Friday morning? I gotta catch an 8:15am flight, but don't know what to anticipate for traffic.

Thanks!

ME

Pnireland
04-29-06, 21:46
Does anyone know how long it takes to drive from the border to the San Diego airport at around 6am on a Friday morning? I gotta catch an 8:15am flight, but don't know what to anticipate for traffic.

Thanks!

MEA journey I have done many times. At that time in the morning the traffic will not be bad - it may only get busy when very close to airport. I have found that even at times when other cities get busy with commuters the traffic around SD does not get really bad!! Therefore, 20 to 30 minutes should be more than enough.

However, when I have tried to travel to airports and leave it as late as possible I have encountered unexpected delays - that is why I am saying it may take as long as 30 mins.

PNI

Asian Shark
05-01-06, 21:17
Hello Fellow Mongers

I will have a chance to visit you mongers from East Coast ( Wash DC ) this June. June 22nd - June 25th for three nights and four days. I will be staying near Tijuana on US side. I would love to hang with any of you mongers for a round of Golf during the days and Tijuana chicas during the nights. Any of you mongers interested, please let me know.

Asian Shark

Bend It
05-01-06, 22:05
A journey I have done many times. At that time in the morning the traffic will not be bad - it may only get busy when very close to airport. I have found that even at times when other cities get busy with commuters the traffic around SD does not get really bad!! Therefore, 20 to 30 minutes should be more than enough.

However, when I have tried to travel to airports and leave it as late as possible I have encountered unexpected delays - that is why I am saying it may take as long as 30 mins.

PNI

Hi. Hope you have a great trip. I *have* been caught in traffic at 6 am around San Diego, so would suggest leaving more than 20 or 30 minutes to get from the border to the airport. For myself, I'd leave 1 hour, just to be safe. Best wishes!

Lascivious
05-02-06, 10:28
Interesting information about the change in Mexico's drug laws.

Mexico's Congress Legalizes Drugs for Personal Use
Friday, April 28, 2006

Fast Facts: What Would Be Legal in Mexico?
MEXICO CITY — Mexico's Congress approved a bill Friday decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, ecstasy, cocaine and heroin for personal use — a measure sure to raise questions in Washington about Mexico's commitment to the war on drugs.

The only remaining step was the signature of President Vicente Fox, whose office indicated he would sign it.

Supporters said the law would let police focus on drug smuggling, rather than on busting casual users. The bill also would stiffen many drug-related penalties: for trafficking, for possession near schools, and for possession of even small quantities by government employees.

Criminal penalties for drug sales would remain on the books.

"We can't close our eyes to this reality," said Sen. Jorge Zermeno, of Fox's conservative National Action Party. "We cannot continue to fill our jails with people who have addictions."

The administration of U.S. President George W. Bush scrambled to come up with a response.

"We're still studying the legislation, but any effort to decriminalize illegal drugs would not be helpful," a U.S. diplomat said on condition of anonymity.

The bill, passed by Mexico's Senate on a 53-26 vote with one abstention, had already been quietly approved in the lower house of Congress and was sent Friday to the president's desk. Presidential spokesman Ruben Aguilar indicated Fox would sign it.

"This law gives police and prosecutors better legal tools to combat drug crimes that do so much damage to our youth and children," he said.

If signed into law, the bill could have an impact on Mexico's relationship with the United States — and on the vast numbers of vacationing students who visit Mexico, often to take advantage of its rarely enforced drinking age of 18.

The bill says criminal charges will no longer be brought for possession of up to 25 milligrams of heroin, five grams of marijuana — about one-fifth of an ounce, or about four joints — and half a gram of cocaine — about half the standard street-size quantity, which is enough for several lines of the drug.

"No charges will be brought against ... addicts or consumers who are found in possession of any narcotic for personal use," the Senate bill reads. It also lays out allowable quantities for a large array of other drugs, including LSD, MDA, ecstasy — about two pills' worth — and amphetamines.

Some of the amounts are eye-popping: Mexicans would be allowed to possess a kilogram (2.2 pounds) of peyote, the button-sized hallucinogenic cactus used in some native Indian religious ceremonies.

Mexican law now leaves open the possibility of dropping charges against people caught with drugs if they are considered addicts and if "the amount is the quantity necessary for personal use." But the exemption isn't automatic.

The new bill drops the "addict" requirement — automatically allowing any "consumers" to have drugs — and sets out specific allowable quantities.

Sale of all drugs would remain illegal under the proposed law, unlike the Netherlands, where the sale of marijuana for medical use is legal and it can be bought with a prescription in pharmacies.

While Dutch authorities look the other way regarding the open sale of cannabis in designated coffee shops — something Mexican police seem unlikely to do — the Dutch have zero tolerance for heroin and cocaine. In both countries, commercial growing of marijuana is outlawed.

In Colombia, a 1994 court ruling decriminalized personal possession of small amounts of cocaine, heroin and other drugs. But President Alvaro Uribe, who is almost assured of re-election next month, wants to change that with a constitutional amendment.

"Allowing the personal dosage of drugs is inconsistent with a country committed to fighting the war on drugs," Uribe said at a campaign stop.

The effects could be significant, given that Mexico is rapidly becoming a drug-consuming nation as well as a shipment point for traffickers, and given the number of U.S. students who flock to border cities or resorts like Cancun and Acapulco on vacation.

"This is going to increase addictions in Mexico," said Ulisis Bon, a drug treatment expert in Tijuana, where heroin use is rampant. "A lot of Americans already come here to buy medications they can't get up there ... Just imagine, with heroin."

U.S. legalization advocates greeted the bill with glee.

Ethan Nadelmann, director of the New York-based Drug Policy Alliance, called it "a very good move," saying it removed "a huge opportunity for low-level police corruption." In Mexico, police often release people detained for minor drug possession in exchange for bribes.

Asian Shark
05-02-06, 13:38
I will be traveling to your mongering town in June. June 22 - 25th. If anyone would like to play some golf during the day and monger at night. Please PM me. I will be staying near San Ysidro.

Hope to see some of you mongers.

Asian Shark

Conejito
05-05-06, 12:57
U.S. Ass-hole alert! By the way I'm a very straight-looking white guy.

A new security guy on the US side of the Sentri line (he's white, with glasses and brownish-blonde hair and i think sideburns) is really messed up. Quotes:

"For the last time, are you bringing back anything from Mexico like prescription drugs or anything", after asking twice! Then he made me empty all my pockets right there at the ID counter. i pity anyone with a cigar or viagra or valium or whatever.

"How long are you staying in San Diego" this after seeing from my license that i live in l.a. He still asked twice, after i told him i was not staying in san diego, he would not believe i was going back to l.a.

There was more BS but I don't remember it all. Good luck.

Country John
05-05-06, 18:27
Expect EVERY officer to be an asshole.

Expect to be interrogated. Tell the truth. You are in TJ chasing the girls. It is totally cool to say it. I say it EVERY time I return.

Don't bring anything illegal back. Don't be stoopid.

You are dealing with guys who joined the force to save the country and here they are asking stoopid questions to freshly laid mongers returning with a silly grin on their face. How depressing must that be? Put yourself in their place.

EXPECT EVERY OFFICER TO BE AN ASSHOLE. Do not lie. Do not be afraid, you have jsut as much right to cross the border as anyone and ASSHOLE officers have NO right to stop you from doing that:

1. UNLESS YOU LIE,
2. DON'T HAVE YOUR PAPERWORK IN ORDER
3. ARE CARRYING SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD NOT BE CARRYING

It is a crime to lie to a Federal Law Enforcement Officer so DON'T. Once you lie they can do all kinds of fun things like detain you, deport you, deny entry etc. etc. All you want to do is go home after sessioning some lusty latina(s) but you got some illegal drugs in your stuff -- stoopid, you come off like someone they'd like to get to know better ("walking probable cause").

You know what I mean.

Be Safe and Be Nice

Country John

Country John
05-05-06, 18:35
and a lot less attractive than some of the SW's in the alley.

Just MHO.

Team Juanita is a credible organization and the girls are as pictured. I know, I took a lot of the pictures. What you see is what shows up at the door. The service is honest and most of the girls are a lot of fun. Many are housewives etc earning extra cash etc but they know what they are doing, it is not a scam it is totally legit.

Don't order a girl that you are not happy with in the pictures. Get on the phone and talk to the service, they are there to help you and will be most accomodating. You can consider this an endorsement.

Country John

Womonger
05-06-06, 17:15
Orginally posted by One Wing Low

"I was harassed by a Philipino agent. He could smell the chicas' perfume in my clothes and became very jealous. I assume he could never afford the chicas on his wages. I answered all his stupid fucking questions while wrote down date, time, his name, badge number and notes. He was shaken badly. He asked me why I had to write down his name. I calmly told him I am an attorney who likes to collect facts. He really shit in his pants!"

I was harassed by a older Philipino at the checkpoint as well. This guy was in the first line, second guard by the back. He work black leather gloves and thought he was tough s***. It was Thursday, 5-06-06 around 5:30pm. I've never had problems with the other guards until this day. He gave me attitude and told me "You don't know what your talking about!" I was tire, hungry and just wanted to leave. Had forgotten about it until I saw your post. Good going in your actions.

Amerioca
05-07-06, 07:47
I too have had engagements with agents on several occassions. Most recently, I returned from Windsor, Canada, and at the checkpoint, I was read the riot act for not carrying my passport. It went on for 10 minutes. The agent was a fucking asshole.

Many years ago (pre 9/11), visited TJ with friends, and was fucked with when coming back. I get to the agent checking IDs, give him my DL, and he asks, "Who is the president of the United States?" I kiddingly reply, "Uhm, I don't know." The agent gives back my DL, and says, "OK." Walked about 15ft, stopped, and quietly wait for my buddies to come through. Out of fucking nowhere, an agent yells, "I thought I told you not to stand there! Didn't I tell you! Didn't I!" I was dumbfounded (WTF MF??@@!!) Never seen the guy before. I was only in the spot for a few seconds...WTF? I looked around, and replied, "Me?" While pointing directly at me, he responded, "Yeah, YOU!" I really wanted to hand his FUCKING ass on a plate. He was an Asian fella with glasses. Man, I really wanted to put my foot in his cu. What a fucking asshole.

Apparently, the BP continues to hire MENTALLY ILL persons. What concerns me most, in this post 9/11 era, the agents have even more powers. Scary, really.


Orginally posted by One Wing Low

"I was harassed by a Philipino agent. He could smell the chicas' perfume in my clothes and became very jealous. I assume he could never afford the chicas on his wages. I answered all his stupid fucking questions while wrote down date, time, his name, badge number and notes. He was shaken badly. He asked me why I had to write down his name. I calmly told him I am an attorney who likes to collect facts. He really shit in his pants!"

I was harassed by a older Philipino at the checkpoint as well. This guy was in the first line, second guard by the back. He work black leather gloves and thought he was tough s***. It was Thursday, 5-06-06 around 5:30pm. I've never had problems with the other guards until this day. He gave me attitude and told me "You don't know what your talking about!" I was tire, hungry and just wanted to leave. Had forgotten about it until I saw your post. Good going in your actions.

Rider Jay
05-09-06, 04:26
I am not trying to defend the BP agents but think about the job. They get to deal with all kinds of drunk, obnoxious people every night, all for a little better then minimum wage. They can’t be to smart or they would never have made a career out of a job that most resembles working at a fast food window. For most of them this is the closest they’ll ever get to any kind of authority.

I flew into San Diego last Friday night and headed strait to the border. I have been staying at the Travel Lodge on the US side but their prices keep going up. I used to stay for $50 including tax but they now want about $75 on weekends. Since I only use the place to store my things, park my car, and sleep for a couple of hours in between trips to the Zona, I thought it was a little to high. I decided to try the Holiday Motel instead. What a mistake this was. Do not stay at this flea bag. It was only $50 but was as bad as the $5 no-tells across the border. Dirty describes every aspect of this place. It was worth a try but I’ll never go back. The next night I stayed on the other side at the Hotel Hacienda de Santiago. It got some good reports and I’ll say it was clean and a good value for $45. The only problem was the noise. I could have tolerated the street noise but some prick vendor with a loud speaker seemed to spend most of his night right outside my window. All I heard was tamales, tamales, tamales, tamales…well you get the picture.

I did my usual 2 SG’s on Friday, 3 over all day Saturday, and got 1 in right before I made my run back across and to the airport on Sunday morning. Like always, some were good and some were bad but, also like always, I had a great time. The food, the Girls, the whole different atmosphere then we see on US soil is what always draws me back.

Be Safe, Rider Jay

Country John
05-09-06, 18:54
NEVER TAKE CRAP FROM FEDERAL AGENTS. What is wrong with you people? Unless you are carrying something or otherwise in the WRONG, why the fuck to you tolerate bad treatment from these people?? They work FOR YOU.

The first time I get shit from one of these clowns, I will ask him for a complaint form and take the two hours to complete it. He will NOT win. I might lose some sleep but he will NOT win.

I understand it's late, you were screwing girls in TJ, maybe you had some beer, popped a viagra etc. etc. OK. You do not deserve to be treated badly by US Customs officers.

Sheesh.....

Country John

Professor10
05-09-06, 19:05
I'll be in the San Diego area on Sat. May 13th and will make my annual run into Tijuana - any mongers would like to meet up with me? I'll be at the McDonald's just over the border at about 5pm. Will spend the next few hours in Tijuana and banging some SW's in the alley and then head to CC and then Adelitas.

Amerioca
05-10-06, 08:47
In fairness, those were the only two times where my patience was tested. In the many crossing I have made, the agents were cordial and professional. Although the TJ crossing incident took place well over 10 years ago, it still boils me. BTW, I am a local boy who was born in Balboa Naval Hospital, and lived across the bay on Coronado.

Yes, I agree that the wages paid are weak, considering their responsibilities, cost of living in So Cal, etc... I am all to familiar with the public sector. The salaries paid to our frontline women and men have been stagnant for many years, in comparison to jobs creations.

* * *
The U.S. Dept. of State http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/brochures/brochures_1229.html

"On effective dates below, all travelers to or from the Americas, the Caribbean and Bermuda will be required to have a passport or other document that establishes the bearer’s identity and nationality to enter or re-enter the United States. On December 31, 2006, the requirement will be applied to all air and sea travel to and from Bermuda, the Caribbean, Central and South America, Mexico, and Canada. On December 31, 2007, the requirement extended to all air, sea, and land border crossings."
* * *

The above was discussed and made aware to me on my most recent crossing by an agent in Detroit. In summary, you will either need a passport or ID and birth cert. for re-entry into the U.S.


I am not trying to defend the BP agents but think about the job. They get to deal with all kinds of drunk, obnoxious people every night, all for a little better then minimum wage. They can’t be to smart or they would never have made a career out of a job that most resembles working at a fast food window. For most of them this is the closest they’ll ever get to any kind of authority.

Be Safe, Rider Jay

QuackUp
05-11-06, 00:35
I went south of the border last Sunday. First stop a/b around 6 pm.. It was pretty dead in there. I have been in there on Sundays before and I know it's not as crowded as a Fri. or Sat. but this was ridiculous. Plenty of seats and I just did a walk through just to see if there were any hotties around. After two laps I'am thinking, maybe the other posts were right, a/b was lacking on talent.

I then went to l/c.. It was a little bit more crowded in there so I got a seat and had a drink. The strip show was winding down with the last girl doing her thing. Then, they had about 6 girls show off their bodies on the dance floor. I notice one I would do so I asked the waiter about her. He told me she was new and she didn't go upstairs. At least this saved me some money by not buying her a drink.

He then pointed out another girl, small spinner type, cute. I told the waiter to bring her over after her dance. Her name is Suzy and she is from Cancun. I didn't actually see her strip, but I think she is a stripper there. She is about 5'2" and very flauca.

I buy her a drink then head upstairs. What I like about this girl, she loves to kiss. The first 10 minutes was just making out on the bed. Because time was running short I daty, which she loves then to mish for the finnish. I didn't ask for a bj because of the time, so I don't know if she does cbj or bbbj. Fun girl, I would repeat.

After the session, went back to a/b. Again, not crowded at all but at least there were some hotties now. Only problem with the hotties, they look good but they seem to have the attitude of a rob. I know it is not true of all of them but because I just finished with a good session, I didn't want a let down.

Getting my fill of eye candy, I headed over to T/b. This place was also dead. Marielos, is back home in Culiacan and I didn't see anything worth banging so I headed back over to l/c.. By the time I got back to l/c, Suzy was gone for the night. There was one cute girl that I wanted to take up but she was with a local for a least a couple of hours. Because she was tied up with the local, I never found out her name.

Also at l/c, for any of you regulars who goes there, did you notice the one girl who resembles Tara Patrick? At least her face does, her body isn't bad, but it doesn't come close to the porn star. Has anyone taken her upstairs? And how was she? By the way she was with some guy who kept buying her beers so I never got to speak with her either.

I got tired of waiting for these girls to free up so I headed out to h/k.. My report will end there in the h/k section.

As a side note. Depending on what agent you get, I actually had a cool one on the way back. The agent asked me what I was doing in Mx? I told him I was meeting some friends there. He asked were they female? I told him yes. He then asked a weird question, he asked if I touched any of them. I told him I tried to! He smile then said next in line.

Q

Minnesotah
05-12-06, 04:57
Don't act like an idiot, be firm and respectul, carry your valid papers and don't bring illegal stuff, then you should be leaving the booth in a minute. It is sure that lots of rotten apples are on the governement paylist, but as everywhere else where you have to interact with public, nothing motivates more you to give bad or minimal service to someone pissing you off.

About the guys working in Detroit, lots of truck drivers avoid that area especially for the traffic delays and the bad reputation of the service offered at the tunnel and the bridge stations. Another infamous officer up there is a big black woman who give shit to several different persons I know. I don't know how she did it, but she almost got an anti-fan club now. I guess that's the tough inner city context making that. Personnally, I generally have good service from the US border officers I meet. I even had lots of interesting conversations with on-duty officers in TX and WA. Against the bets, even I have the Canadian citizenship, the Canadian officers are the ones giving me the most troubles. Several times, they're acting as pros, but not always. Per exemple, I strongly suggest you to avoid heading up to Canada via the Detroit-Windsor tunnel station. They held me there for almost two hours for no reason at the same time they were releasing suspecious people (in my book) next to me.

FourInchFred
05-12-06, 11:31
Quick question - when you buy gas in Mexico, is a tip for the attendant expected? If so, how much?

The guy who filled my tank also washed the front/rear windows.

As an aside, by my calculations, gas currently costs $2.58/gallon in TJ. (7.41 pesos per liter * 3.785 = 28.04685 pesos per gallon / 10.86527 current exchange rate = $2.58US per gallon.)

USASexGuideHo
05-13-06, 21:57
The key to consistent $3 cab rides versus 5 is to approach cab drivers just after they drop off their current fare (or while they're doing so).

ZONA BOUND: when you get to the TJ border walk over to the area where your regular cab ride back from Mexico stops (It's just across the new archway and at the base of the stairway; also next to northbound traffic). At that spot ask most any driver (Taxi Libre works best) as he drops off his fare "tres dollares para adelitas?", etc. and he'll be quite glad to see you.

USA BOUND: similarly, when looking to head back, signal a driver (Taxi Libre works best) just after he drops off his fare and is moving away from adelitas, etc. Asking "tres dollares para linya USA" at that point will be met with marked enthusiasm.

The reason for the warm reception of course, is that the drivers otherwise have to clear drop zones immediately. It works best at the busiest times when waiting taxis on the other hand will not be as excited to accommodate. I might also remind (if you RTFF) that sitting in the front seat is the local custom.

I recommend putting the extra $2 toward beers.

California Guy
05-14-06, 20:23
To be honest I have had bad experiences with the officers maybe 5 out of 1000+ times going to Mex. I would understand if these guys were having bad days with some of the people they deal with but I haven't really seen it. On the other hand I went to Canada once and the guys were dicks. Both entering and leaving it took at least 5-10 minutes each way with all of the questions and comments from these guys. I have heard the same thing from many people who visit Canada on a regular basis and I am not sure what's the deal.

Joe Monger
05-15-06, 03:20
If you'll permit me I'd like to ask you well-seasoned TJ mongers a question.

Are there any massage parlors in TJ that offer a table shower? Or allow the girl to shower with you? Or perhaps even have a spa or whirlpool that you can do your business in? I'm not concerned about the price. I can, on occasion, find this service at the AMP's in SoCal but I'd like to try it with a hot Latina. And I know from experience that you can pretty much find ANYTHING in Mexico for the right price. :)

Joe

Bend It
05-15-06, 17:27
If you'll permit me I'd like to ask you well-seasoned TJ mongers a question.

Are there any massage parlors in TJ that offer a table shower? Or allow the girl to shower with you? Or perhaps even have a spa or whirlpool that you can do your business in? I'm not concerned about the price. I can, on occasion, find this service at the AMP's in SoCal but I'd like to try it with a hot Latina. And I know from experience that you can pretty much find ANYTHING in Mexico for the right price. :)

Joe

Joe, you can take the Adelitas chicas to a hot tub room in the hotel they use. Its not always available, of course.

Twice, I've taken a daytime Adelitas chica (I cannot remember her name) to a legitimate sauna/massage place. We sauna-ed together, I pounded her in the sauna, then we each had a legitimate massage. Sorry, I never got the name of the sauna. Its just another idea.

AdventureMike
05-15-06, 18:34
To be honest I have had bad experiences with the officers maybe 5 out of 1000+ times going to Mex. I would understand if these guys were having bad days with some of the people they deal with but I haven't really seen it. On the other hand I went to Canada once and the guys were dicks. Both entering and leaving it took at least 5-10 minutes each way with all of the questions and comments from these guys. I have heard the same thing from many people who visit Canada on a regular basis and I am not sure what's the deal.I lived in Vancouver the past 3 years and in that time and amidst at least 30 border crossings (mostly airport but a few land) I noticed the experience for US citizens of crossing into Canada getting progressively worse. I presume this is due to the post-9/11 US Gov. pressure on Canada to significantly tighten both border security and immigration.

Until recently I had not been across the TJ border in a good 15 years, but I definitely notice a much more stern interview now as opposed to back then and I presume it has gotten quite a bit more stricty in the last 3 years as well.

Bad4URHeart
05-16-06, 03:14
If you'll permit me I'd like to ask you well-seasoned TJ mongers a question.

Are there any massage parlors in TJ that offer a table shower? Or allow the girl to shower with you? Or perhaps even have a spa or whirlpool that you can do your business in? I'm not concerned about the price. I can, on occasion, find this service at the AMP's in SoCal but I'd like to try it with a hot Latina. And I know from experience that you can pretty much find ANYTHING in Mexico for the right price. :)

Joe

Joe,

Massage parlors like you mention are all over the place. Not sure about the table shower, but full service massage houses with showers, tubs and jacuzzis are in abundance in and outside the zona. Depends on the girl if she gets wet with you, but I have had not problems with that request, YMMV. Check for a post made a few months back about many of the places.

One really close to the action with bath/jacuzzis would be "El Campamento" - 1 block east of Adelitas behind La Tropa Bar

Country John
05-17-06, 03:32
Especially in Vancouver, where their wives and girlfriends turn tricks for peanuts.

Be very careful dealing with Canadian custom assholes. If you dress casually and enter Canada by yourself, they figure you are seeking to fuck their wives for cheap, therefore they get jealous.

Canadian customs are the worst. I brought some t-shirts from TJ for the family,. 10 shirts total with all the same lettering and graphics. We talked about Mexico and I told him it was a great place to live and chase the girls.

I had to pay $50. to get the fucking shirts into Canada, he said I was taking them in for Re-Sale. They are pricks of the highest order. Much worse than the USA or Mexico. It's the French in them. One Wing Low is right.

Country John

Blue Nose
05-18-06, 01:59
Well, I have been hearing a lot of good things about the Hotel Santaigo in TJ lately and last weekend I decided to give it a try. I usually stay at the Nelson, but I figured that this place was close to the action. I was very glad that I tried it! The full name is Hotel Santiago de something or other, and it is located on the corner of Revolucion and Calle de Coahuila. From the arch, walk straight down the hill and take your first left. The hotel is right there and is across from La Tropa bar. From AB, exit take a right, then your first left and then your first right (3 min walk from AB or CC).

I arrived Friday around 4pm and requested a double room with one bed. The total came to $43 plus $3 refundable key deposit. The room, which was on the 3rd floor, had a good size double bed, very clean bathroom and small kitchenette including a refrigerator. The room also had a TV. All in all it was very nice and pretty good value for what you pay. Extremely clean and ample towels. This place is about $15 - $17 cheaper than the Nelson but about $20 more than the Leyva. I would say that it is nicer and much newer than the Nelson and is not even in the same league as the Leyva.

In terms of being chica friendly, that is not a problem at all. Just make sure to request a double room. That's all they care about - that you are not trying to sneak an extra guest in. I brought a girl up around 10pm or so and it was no problem. She stayed the night and left when I checked out in the morning. Again, no problem. They do check your room before you leave so if you want the $3 back, don't steal anything or trash the place.

Only downside to this place that I could see was the parking. They do have a parking garage, but it is unattended. I drove in there and nobody questioned me or tried to charge me money. When I decided it didn't look secure enough, I drove over to Leyva and parked there ($7 for 24 hours - attendant is there 24 / 7). I forgot to ask when checking in at Santiago if parking is free, but I think it is. Because it isn't guarded, I don't recommend that you park there - better to leave the car north of the border or in an attended lot.

This hotel is as noisy as all the other hotels in the zone. All night, you will hear mariachis, music from bars, freaks yelling on the street, people banging around and slamming doors, police sirens - the usual TJ noise.

If you want a good night's sleep, try something outside the zone or, better yet, outside the country. If you want to monger, this place is almost perfect: inexpensive, clean, safe and chica-friendly. This hotel gets the official Blue Nose seal of approval. I will definitely be back and have no trouble recommending it for other guys, whether you just want a place to crash or a TLN session. It's all possible here.

Blue Nose

Dreams
05-19-06, 17:09
Dear Fellow Mongers,

I have travelled and mongered quite a lot, Europe, Asia etc... but funnily enough never in South America and never in Tijuana.

Being for a short while on business in South California, I have decided to give it a try.
I have RTF carefully, and must thank everyone for all the info. I have taken note of all the "safety" rules and will carefully follow them

However, I have a few specific questions, and I hope that some of the TJ veterans will not mind spending a few minutes answering them.

First, I can only go during day time, say 1 to 7 pm, and either Monday or Tuesday. Is there any action, and if yes where? I read that AB is the best chance, but beyond this, any other place?

Two: Iam not young anymore, so what I ususally do is take my time to choose, and go for a FS action. However, after that, I am not ready for a while for a second cum, neither I am ready to head back home. Is there any place open in the afternoon where I can hang on comfortably, watching dancers, perhaps getting lap dances , possibly BJs, etc... without having to go back for a full session to the room? Basically a strip club like in the US but with high mileage, and cheaper lap dance?

Thanks in advance for the advice.

Apologies if you read this in other threads, I did not know which one was the most appropriate, so posted in several.

I will report, of course.

And feel free to ask me, Pm or else, anything you want to know about mongering in London, Frankfurt, Tokyo, Singapore etc.

Cheers

Blue Nose
05-20-06, 00:04
Dear Fellow Mongers,

I have travelled and mongered quite a lot, Europe, Asia etc... but funnily enough never in South America and never in Tijuana.

Being for a short while on business in South California, I have decided to give it a try.
I have RTF carefully, and must thank everyone for all the info. I have taken note of all the "safety" rules and will carefully follow them

However, I have a few specific questions, and I hope that some of the TJ veterans will not mind spending a few minutes answering them.

First, I can only go during day time, say 1 to 7 pm, and either Monday or Tuesday. Is there any action, and if yes where? I read that AB is the best chance, but beyond this, any other place?

Two: Iam not young anymore, so what I ususally do is take my time to choose, and go for a FS action. However, after that, I am not ready for a while for a second cum, neither I am ready to head back home. Is there any place open in the afternoon where I can hang on comfortably, watching dancers, perhaps getting lap dances , possibly BJs, etc... without having to go back for a full session to the room? Basically a strip club like in the US but with high mileage, and cheaper lap dance?

Dreams - Welcome to the Forum. First off, no problem to go during the day, and any day of the week you will find some action in TJ. For a man like you, I would say that your best bet is probably to hit Adelitas (ABs). This will afford you the most selection and gradually introduce you to TJ and Mexico. Chicago Club, another good place, is generally DEAD before 8pm, so I would not advise it based on your schedule. Would also recommend that you try (or warm up with) a street walker.

In terms of just hanging out between pops, I would recommend Hong Kong. HK is located in "the alley" just behind ABs. Walking out of ABs, hang a right at the exit, then take your first right (onto Constitucion) and then another immediate right - this will put you in the alley. In the alley you will find many, many street walkers who will be willing to go with you for about $25. If you continue to walk down the alley, Hong Kong will be on your right. This place is generally regarded as the best strip club in TJ. Just walk in and grab a seat by the stage. During the day you will get 2 for 1 beers and you can stuff $1 into girls' thongs to your heart's content. Upstairs at HK there are some booths for private dances, and of course these are much better quality than you will find in the US.

If you need Cialis or Viagra, you can buy it at any pharmacy - just be careful to buy it and take it quickly before leaving as sometimes the police can hassle you for this. For a first timer, I recommend that you walk across the border. Go through the turnstiles, take your first right then straight through the 2nd set of turnstiles. Go across the street and take a left along Farmacia alley. Go past the yellow taxis and follow the signs / crowds for the Taxi Libre stand. From there you can take a taxi (Try to take a taxi Libre - white with orange markings rather than the yellow cabs) and ask for Adelitas (pronounced Ad-DayLeet-Ahs). Fare is $3, including tip.

Avoid the massage parlors and the strip clubs on Revolucion Blvd. They are rip off joints for ignorant gringos, not informed travellers like yourself.

Blue Nose

Blue Nose
05-20-06, 00:51
i have received a few pms interested in knowing more about tlns in tijuana. i will do my best to answer those questions here by explaining the system that i use.

first, a litle bit of background: i generally gave up on just doing bar girls for 30 minute sessions about 16 months ago. i still do this about once a trip as a warm up, but i generally focus more on tlns. the reason is that i have found better and more consistent service from the semi-pros who staff the "locals" clubs in tj. if you have been to the zone then you know of these clubs even though you may never have been inside. they are ones where the guys stand out front and ask you to come in, promising beautiful women and cheap beer.

before i go any further, let me say a few words about the quality of the women in these clubs. you have to remember that these clubs are not ab or cc and, as such, do not have ab or cc quality girls. some of the guys on this forum may think of these women as ugly, but many are not. in one of these smaller clubs, you will find a some 4-5s, a few 6-7s and then a very few 8s. occaisonally, i have seen a 9, but this is rare - most 8s & 9s work at ab or cc or even hk.

if you want to tln with a nice non-pro girl, my advice is to hit these clubs and just see what you see. order a beer and spend a few minutes scoping out the action. polk your head through the curtains, and if you see a group of women, chances are that there is one there you will like. once you have a drink and have spent some time scoping, ask one over for a drink. i recommend that you do not go with the best looking one there, but rather #2 or #3. usually, the #1 girl in a club knows she is #1 and this can cause her to inflate prices, ficha fuck you etc.

if you don't like what you see, just bail out after a beer and move to the next club. if you do this a few times, you will know which local clubs have the best talent. i usually try to hit the clubs in the late afternoon, if i can. this way, i can take my time and scope out the talent. once you find one you like and buy her a drink, you can politely ask questions about her family, her background etc. this is important, as the ones with no family in tj will be much more likely to be avaialble all night. after a few minutes, you can casually ask her what time she finishes work (shift change at most clubs in the zone is 8 - 9pm) and if she would like to spend the night with you at your hotel, perhaps after taking her for dinner. if you can't speak spanish, then use an electronic translator to figure out how to say this before you go.

if she is game, then ask her her price for todo la noche (for you non-spanish speakers, use a pen to have her write her price and you can negotiate that way). this is where you will see a huge difference between abs and semi-pros. most of these local girls will go tln for anywhere from $100 to $150. i have never paid more than $150 and i never will, although i have been quoted as high as $600 (from an ab girl, before i learned how to do this properly) and as low as $50 from a girl who really seemed to like just hanging around with me.

remember that, although it seems like a bargain to you, this is a lot of money in mexico. many people work hard all week and take home $50 - $75 (or much less) at the end of the week. to give somebody $100 or more for one night's work is to offer them a lot of money. the average ficha girl will only make about $30 or so in fichas and dollar dances per shift, so this is a way to augment her income.

if you set up the deal, make sure you know what time to come back, and then show up a few minutes early. after you do this, you are free to leave and then come back later. you may want to just keep looking at other places, set up a few tlns and then pick the best one, or maybe go to abs or even go take a nap - you will need it. once you show up, the girl will change into her civillian clothes and you are free to leave. no bar fines and no hassles since the shift has ended. if you can't go in the afternoon, and have to take a girl from second shift, you may have to pay a bar fine. no problem - in tj it is not a problem that money cannot solve, but be prepared to pay $10 - $30. some clubs will even charge you more if you keep the girl all night. this is why i prefer to set it up with day shift girls.

once you leave, then take her for dinner (if you want). then it is back to the hotel for the real action!! i recommend the nelson or santiago. both are chica friendly, tln friendly and clean, respectable places that the girls will enjoy. they are also within walking distance to the zone, which will make the girl more comfortable. pay for a double room when you check in and you will have no hassles at all.

once you get to the room, do not offer to pay in advance and resist the tamptation to pay even if she asks for it. show her that you have the money and tell her you will pay in the morning. this will prevent her from leaving early. if you do pay her in advance, do not pay her the full amount - just a portion. again, this is to keep her from leaving early. if she insists then it means she is planning to bail so just toss her out and then go back out and try again. the big risk early on is that she will take the money, do you once and then leave. don't give her that opportunity. trust me on this: i learned the hard way.

when you take your clothes off, roll your jeans up so that your wallet is tucked way on the inside of the roll, and far away from wandering hands. do not let her put her clothes near yours (lest she steal while you are getting dressed). keep your clothes on your side of the bed. when you shower, tell her to come with you. if you can, undress her and rep001ter her clothes around the room so it makes it harder for her to get dressed, steal from you and sneak away in case you fall asleep. don't let your guard down.

at this point, you can basically do what you want for as long as you can. again, the key here is preparation. if you want multiple pops, then take a cialis or viagra 30 minutes before the action begins. this will allow you to get your money's worth. it's also a good idea to have some bottled water in the room as you will both get thirsty.

when you are done, you can either ask her to leave or allow her to stay. it's your call. i usually let them stay since the really untrustworthy ones get weeded out fast using my system, or bail after the second pop with only $40 in their pockets (refuse to pay the rest unless she stays the night). i am a light sleeper anyway, and the girls are usually as tired as i am by the time we are done. it's nice to wake up with a hot, naked latina lying next to you and to have one last session before check out time. if you are really paranoid, you can all your valuables except the money for the girl in the hotel safe.

last weekend, i had a tln girl at the hotel santiago. we were togther for 12 hours, for a total of five pops. the total cost, excluding the room was:

girl: $100
ficha drinks: $13
dinner: $12 (for both of us)
tip: $30 (not necessary, but i gave it to her for exceptional service)
taxi: $3 (again, not necessary, but i want to see her again)
total: $158 for five pops

this included bbbj, multiple positions, daty, and pretty much everthing else you can imagine. i think you will agree that this is a value price, based on what girls are charging in ab and cc these days.

at the end of the night, we were both very happy, albeit for different reasons. i will definitely see her again, and she will be more than happy to oblige me when i next come calling.

if tln is your thing, or you want to give it a try, my advice is to use the local clubs. avoid sws or ab / cc girls for tln - they are too savvy for that, and will overcharge you. i will not recommend local clubs here (pm me if you want them) except to say that you should avoid the following places: la carretera (never had any luck here), bar taurino (gay / ts place), kinkle (yes, it is open again), londres sports bar (place is dead).

best of luck, and please report back on your tln experiences.

blue nose

QuackUp
05-24-06, 00:31
Hey Bluenose,

Good report, great advice. I somewhat follow what you do but I have to admit, I have never thought of spreading her clothes around. I also agree with the hotel Santiago. It's a good hotel, nice and clean. But because it is in the zona, it is quite noisey.

I went this past Sunday. Again, I'am amazed at how not crowded it was. I arrived around 6:00 p.m. first stop a/d.. I remember the days when even on Sundays it would take a while to walk around the club because of the crowds. Not anymore. I did two laps, saw nothing I liked and headed over to l/c..

At l/c I was hoping Suzy would be there. She gave a great session last time I was there. Of course, when you expect them to be there, they aren't. Stayed for a drink, watch the strip show then headed to t/b..

One thing I like better about the t/b is at least nowadays, the lighting is better. Way back when, it was really dark and it was hard to tell how good a chica looked until you went outside. Anyways, nothing to write home about so I went to h/k..

H/k was so so. There was one girl I would have done but she was with a customer. She was with the customer for a while so I left and got something to eat.

After dinner I went back to t/b and met a girl named mellisa. She's tall about 5'7" from Sinaloa. We went upstairs for a better than average time. Not great but not bad. She wouldn't do a bbbj, just a cbj. We did shower together and the fs was good. I paid her $600 pesos. After the sessions things got a little wierd.

Before going downstairs she asked if I would buy her a beer in the bar. I told her no problem. We get to the bar and sit at a table. She sits down and I tell her to order the beer while I go to the bathroom. When I get back from the bathroom, I see a bucket of beers, the one with six beers in it. I asked her what the heck was this. She start to say that is what she asked upstairs and I said okay. I told her I agreed for one beer. Anyways we argued for a bit, I got tired so I paid for the bucket.

Being a veteran of the zona, I should have known better, especially with someone who I have just met. Hopefully no one else makes this mistake. I guess I got to comfortable with the last few girls I have been with because they were pretty up and up on things like that. Also, I got pissed at the waiter with their bullshit bag of potato chips trick. This is where the waiter will put the bag on the table with your drinks, then charge you for it. Lately, I let him charge me, then when he brings the change back, I ask him why so much? He will then point to the bag and then I tell him I don't want it and bring me the correct change. Later he brings me the change and I pick it up and leave no tip for him. He stands there wanting for his tip, I keep looking at the bag of chips. He gets the message.

Country John
05-24-06, 17:33
Quackup, you handled it well. You knew what was happeining when it was happening and you handled it like a vet. The girl makes a lot more on the bucket than on the single beer of course and she ficha fucked you, I would have walked out on the beer deal. No way a chicas gonna make me pay for a bucket when I order a beer.

BT is known for the potato chip trick.

And bluenose is starting to slow down in his old age.

Country John

Member #4450
05-25-06, 23:55
i don't post much, but i want to inform our fellow mongers, here's something interested that happened last tuesday in ab next door motel!

as i was going up to pay for the room there were 3 tj cops "placas" as mexicans call them, but i didn't pay much attention to it ,i was taking care of my business, anyway when i took the taxi back to the sentri line, the cab driver was telling me that a stupid gringo got arrested today at ab, so i asked him what happened, are you ready to read this?

the cab driver told me the placas remove the guy from ab next door motel and put him in jail, to try forcing a girl in the room to fucking her in the back hole! how stupid is that? he said the guy was holding her against her will and his dick was breaking in.
now that's very retarded mentally stupid, that's call [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), some guys think a hooker have no rights, and they can do whatever they want, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) charges in mexico is not a joke, anyway something to laugh about!

Mutha Foo
05-26-06, 04:10
I gave it to her up the ass. Her lips said "No" but her body said "Yes". As for the cops, I gave them each a dollar and they went away. Gotta love TJ.

Member #4450
05-26-06, 19:39
I gave it to her up the ass. Her lips said "No" but her body said "Yes". As for the cops, I gave them each a dollar and they went away. Gotta love TJ.Very funny!

So how was jail in Tj ? Did you lips said "NO" and you body say "YES"?

And did you collect that dollar after?

Mutha Foo
05-27-06, 00:50
Hey lil man, how's your mother? Does she let you date? I hope you can still get a date with that pimply face of yours. Let me give you some advice. Take a bath, comb your hair and take a breath mint.

Member #4450
05-27-06, 03:33
Hey lil man, how's your mother? Does she let you date? I hope you can still get a date with that pimply face of yours. Let me give you some advice. Take a bath, comb your hair and take a breath mint.I been here longer than you, I just don't post stupidity all the time!

Sorry they mess you up in jail, I got a few friend in TJ, that can make you body say "YES", if you need more love, I like your Id name goes perfect with you personality!

Rider Jay
05-29-06, 04:59
Spent the weekend in TJ a couple weeks ago after a week in LA and stayed at the Hotel Pueblo Amigo. I paid $100 a night after booking it online. This sound expensive but they usually charge more because this really is a nice hotel by any standards. It's right near the border so I walked to the Zona during the day and took a cab after it was dark.

After hanging out Friday night and during the day on Saturday in the Zona, I decided to spend Saturday night trying out the night life near the hotel. Right next to the hotel there is a complex with all kinds of restuarants and clubs. I went through it a while back but didn't really spend much time because I was in a hurry to go downtown to get to my regular activities. This time I went through it pretty good. There's a ton of night life. Great upscale places to eat and drink and there were plenty of pretty girls everywhere. They were regular girls and there were lots of possiblities but my very limited Spanish held me back. The area is worth checking out if you have command of the language and some extra time on a weekend night.

I made it back to the Zona Sunday to once again participate in the activities that were the main purpose of my visit. That afternoon I made my usual dash back to the San Diego airport for my flight home. The line accross the border was extra long so I rented one of those bikes for $7. The price changes every time I ask but it save me at least an hour. It was the only way I'd have made my flight.

Be safe, Rider Jay

Bud Leeeeeeee
05-29-06, 19:42
Last 5 times re-entering the usa from a day in tj on foot I noticed they swipe your drivers liscense. One dude in another line had a warrent for who knows what and was being heldup for a sitdown with the police I am guessing.

So be careful if you have some lameass warrant out for your arrest if walking back for re-entry to the usa.

Question:

I never drive over the border but have a friend I use to monger with in tj who wants to visit and make a trip for old times sake. He can't leave the states cause of some trouble he got into. So swiping his drivers licsense could get ugly.

When you drive back into the states from tj do they swipe your drivers liscense? How about the passengers in the car? I would think not. Just asking incase he wants to risk it. I think this would bog down the traffic re-entering the states. Its already backed up a ton as it is.

Bud Leeeeeeee
05-29-06, 19:45
I have never tried but read many reviews on ***. They give more service. Daty, dfk, and my favorite BBBJ.

I can't hardly find any BBBJ. When I do its from a big older girl or the less then avg girl will stop and spit every 10secs. Funny at first but you never cause its lame as hell.

So where is everyone scoring BBBJ in TJ?

TJ Bob
05-30-06, 08:53
I been here longer than you, I just don't post stupidity all the time!

Sorry they mess you up in jail, I got a few friend in TJ, that can make you body say "YES", if you need more love, I like your Id name goes perfect with you personality!

don't worry about that Mofo> he is what he calls himself, a mutha f'vr....lol.

Member #4450
05-31-06, 19:31
don't worry about that Mofo> he is what he calls himself, a mutha f'vr....lol.Thanks TJ Bob.

I just hate A holes that treat women like trash, most of the girls working in TJ are sweet hearts, if you want to fuck them in the back door you just have to work yourself around, when some of us go to the clubs in TJ , we act like A holes, it makes it harder for the good rest of us, they might think we're like animals, I always treat them right and 80 percent of time I get GFE with the girls in AB, hard to believe but once happened to me in Tj gotta an AB frebbie, just paid lunch + movie + room, yeah I'm not kidding! And she was a #9 all cover 2+ hours, of course to get this lucky you must speak fluent spanish, and have a 9 inch machine, I'm just kidding about the machine LOL :>)

Member #4450
05-31-06, 22:28
This is news for me?

I walked into McDonalds at the border and order a soda and this chuby ok looking girl was looking at me all the time, and I she said what's up, and told her I'm just cool, she asked me if I want a BJ in the McDonalds restroom for 20 and I pass, I need to save my energy for the goodies.

And also if you look around the Constitucion and surroundings you'll see a few local gringas women walking around, mostly crack hos, one of them was walking around in miniskirt with a dog, I bid you they can suck dick and cim for peanuts, did anyone ever try?

Souther Ca is getting hard for them to work because of LE pressure, I think they just cross the border and work around the taxi line waiting for us!

I'm just not sure if this is real or was just this time, but the ones in la Zona
are dangerous drug addicts, be carefull !

Can anyone confirm this?

Lascivious
06-01-06, 18:06
I have not seen any white girls working there. I would not go with a leser looking girl just because she was white. I've often wondered why more white girls don't work there.

Rider Jay
06-01-06, 19:50
I've never seen any American or even Mexican girls working outside the zona. I have seen a few WSWs working in the Zona but they've all been older or less attractive then the local street talent.

Be Safe, Rider Jay


This is news for me?

I walked into McDonalds at the border and order a soda and this chuby ok looking girl was looking at me all the time, and I she said what's up, and told her I'm just cool, she asked me if I want a BJ in the McDonalds restroom for 20 and I pass, I need to save my energy for the goodies.

And also if you look around the Constitucion and surroundings you'll see a few local gringas women walking around, mostly crack hos, one of them was walking around in miniskirt with a dog, I bid you they can suck dick and cim for peanuts, did anyone ever try?

Souther Ca is getting hard for them to work because of LE pressure, I think they just cross the border and work around the taxi line waiting for us!

I'm just not sure if this is real or was just this time, but the ones in la Zona
are dangerous drug addicts, be carefull !

Can anyone confirm this?

Blue Nose
06-03-06, 16:49
Last 5 times re-entering the usa from a day in tj on foot I noticed they swipe your drivers liscense. One dude in another line had a warrent for who knows what and was being heldup for a sitdown with the police I am guessing.

So be careful if you have some lameass warrant out for your arrest if walking back for re-entry to the usa.

Question:

I never drive over the border but have a friend I use to monger with in tj who wants to visit and make a trip for old times sake. He can't leave the states cause of some trouble he got into. So swiping his drivers licsense could get ugly.

When you drive back into the states from tj do they swipe your drivers liscense? How about the passengers in the car? I would think not. Just asking incase he wants to risk it. I think this would bog down the traffic re-entering the states. Its already backed up a ton as it is.

Bud,

They generally do not swip your license or passport when you drive back by car. But they can as they all have scanners in every booth, so be careful. As well, your license plates are automatically scanned as you drive up so if the owner of the car has any outstanding, ahem, "issues" that he needs to deal with it could be a problem.

My advice - be careful if you are trying to avoid a license scan. After 9/11, everybody is a suspect. Depending on your friend's situation, it may not be worth it for a night of fun in TJ.

Blue Nose