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Hillbilly69
03-19-13, 13:58
Or even with some private video with a chica over 18 years old made for private (no internet sharing) use?Here the damn video I think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEu0ZWuHkOw&feature=youtu.be
I won't comment any more than that cause I would only be speculating.
Here the damn video I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEu0ZWuHkOw&feature=youtu.be
I won't comment any more than that cause I would only be speculating.I'm surprised that video hasnt been blocked or taken off of Youtube yet. I wonder if those guys are partly responsible for why many FL girls in the DR are asking for ridiculous amounts for ST & TLN? To be fair, I don't know what they paid for the girls they had. They might have come as a bargain? And also any bunch of average JOEs (me potentially included) might be collectively contributing to chicas expectations as well. But I can't help but wonder if those guys in the video are taking it too far in terms of reinforcing many chicas ridiculous expectations? I could have sworn I saw a "make it rain" with dinero moment in the video?
Hillbilly69
03-19-13, 14:50
I could have sworn I saw a "make it rain" with dinero moment in the video?He was the one throwing money in the pool, best I can figure a chica in the video went to the cops and got him arrested after seeing him on the strip weeks later, even though it wasn't his video. Till his 50k us payment clears he still ain't free. New scooters for everybody.
SavePros321
03-19-13, 14:53
Here the damn video I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEu0ZWuHkOw&feature=youtu.be
I won't comment any more than that cause I would only be speculating.Hell yeah, he made it rain on dem hoez! Dats how you do that shit (lol)!
Even if he didn't have $50k to get out of jail, you certainly can't make that conclusion from the video (which is probably what the police, attorney, and judge went off of). It's funny how everyone here thinks we Vets are "corny" when we talk about playing everything down and blending in.
Check out 9:35 in the video. These are the dudes Trace talked about seeing in D'Latins a few weeks back (guys showing up in white suites and wearing shades at night with a reserved spot in D'Latins).
Hillbilly69
03-19-13, 15:13
Hell yeah, he made it rain on dem hoez! Dats how you do that shit (LOL)!
Even if he didn't have $50k to get out of jail, you certainly can't make that conclusion from the video (which is probably what the police, attorney, and judge went off of). It's funny how everyone here thinks we Vets are "corny" when we talk about playing everything down and blending in.
Check out 9:35 in the video. These are the dudes Trace talked about seeing in D'Latins a few weeks back (guys showing up in white suites and wearing shades at night with a reserved spot in D'Latins).Anyone else would have got out for no more than 7500 USD but seeing he had money to throw in the pool, and got a crooked fucking attorney I am sure 50k later, I suspect they won't let him leave even after that payment hell I would milk the cow for all it is worth.
SavePros321
03-19-13, 15:17
Till his 50k us payment clears he still ain't free. New scooters for everybody.What, did he pay using a credit card or something?
I know you are bullshitting us Hillbilly. Ain't no way that guy is still in jail. *I mean, did you see the way he was balling in that video? Shit, he probably had $50k in his sock!
*(Lol)
SavePros321
03-19-13, 15:24
or even with some private video with a chica over 18 years old made for private (no internet sharing) use?all a judge has to do is declare that all the nude women in the video are all ****. if you cannot prove otherwise, then guess what? and guess what if you are in the video having sex with the women the judge had declared ****?
if you film the two of you having sex with her (no hidden camera/her letting you film the two of you) and then she goes around the corner and tells one of her cop buddies, they could set you up for a scam by making you turn over your video camera and memory card (unless you swallow the damn thing, lol) and then follow the above outline.
it's not even safe in your safe because i am sure that the cops can demand the hotel staff to open your safe with a master key even if you are not present in the room.
who is old fred sanford?the only guy on here that brags about sneaking weed into the dr via his luggage. to his credit, he's probably smart enough not to post any of the videos he says he films like mr. $50k.
Hillbilly69
03-19-13, 15:25
What, did he pay using a credit card or something?
I know you are bullshitting us Hillbilly. Ain't no way that guy is still in jail. *I mean, did you see the way he was balling in that video? Shit, he probably had $50k in his sock!
* (LOL) He ain't in Jail he got out after 3 days and his gf signed for him and bail money, probably got his paspport he has been there for a month.
SavePros321
03-19-13, 15:41
Anyone else would have got out for no more than 7500 USD but seeing he had money to throw in the pool, and got a crooked fucking attorney I am sure 50k later, I suspect they won't let him leave even after that payment hell I would milk the cow for all it is worth.There will be "new developments" in the case that will require additional money to resolve them. Welcome to the Dominican Republic, LOL.
A month is a long time to bleed someone dry. No lie, I ain't got it like that. My average-joe ass would have been tapped-out financially already.
Hillbilly69
03-19-13, 15:47
There will be "new developments" in the case that will require additional money to resolve them. Welcome to the Dominican Republic, LOL.
A month is a long time to bleed someone dry. No lie, I ain't got it like that. My average-joe ass would have been tapped-out financially already.The new offical charges will be written on a napkin. I told the kid I was calling the prosecutor to get the fine raised to 250k usd I want in on the scam too!
Ttriumph48
03-19-13, 16:07
I hope you're not relying on CubaDave for advice. I've met him. He's a nice, well-meaning guy, but he's amazingly clueless about mongering. Despite all his travels to DR, C. Rica and Cuba he speaks next to no Spanish. The only advantage (though potentially a big one) that Passions or CMP has over the freelancers is that you won't get robbed, drugged or end up in jail. You pay extra for that benefit and for many guys it's worth it.I have to admit. I have seen just about all of Cuba Dave's video blogs. Consequently, one has to use the information as a stepping off point when dealing with the action in Sosua. Granted either he has a percentage of Passions or just really loves the place. In collusion, spending the premium $ for these brick and mortar establishments can be slightly extravagant. But the potential savings in wasted time, police evolvement, being robbed and or drugged are non existent. For myself, I propose the question."How long will it take me not to miss the extra $20 to $30 for a drama less experience?" One month, two months, six months. You get the picture.
Mr Enternational
03-19-13, 16:15
He ain't in Jail he got out after 3 days and his gf signed for him and bail money, probably got his paspport he has been there for a month.I take it this guy has never seen Locked Up Abroad. The smart thing to do would be to get his ass over to Haiti and try to get back home since they have let him out of jail.
Hillbilly69
03-19-13, 16:32
I take it this guy has never seen Locked Up Abroad. The smart thing to do would be to get his ass over to Haiti and try to get back home since they have let him out of jail.I tried to tell him that, he thinks his novia will be locked up, why she ain't got any money. Best I can figure his mom or grandparents are cutting the check to get him out cause he is young and if it was his money he wouldn't have been so giving with the money, too late for me to do him any good.
Is there anywhere else you can view this video? If the 50, 000 was paid, it's going to be open season on mongers. Fella just leave any equipment that can take a video or picture home. Buy cheap non picture taking phone over there, so won't be tempted, it's not worth it and have a good time.
I tried to tell him that, he thinks his novia will be locked up, why she ain't got any money. Best I can figure his mom or grandparents are cutting the check to get him out cause he is young and if it was his money he wouldn't have been so giving with the money, too late for me to do him any good.Pretty interesting (but long) article about the DR justice system here written by a gringo who was locked up.
http://open.salon.com/blog/timotuck/2011/04/28/justice_system_in_the_dominican_republic
Does anyone know what the significant point of interest in the video was, other than that the guys were acting like dicks. I noticed some puffs of white smoke at one point, and wondered if that was the issue.
SavePros321
03-19-13, 17:58
Does anyone know what the significant point of interest in the video was, other than that the guys were acting like dicks.That's a bit of a harsh assessment, wouldn't you say? Sure they were very flamboyant in the video, but I did not see anyone slapping around or cursing out any chicas or other guys. I didn't see anyone threatening others with bodily harm either.
In the video they kept to themselves and their circle of chicas for the most part. I would only call them "dicks" if I was about to walk out of Clasicos with my 2500 TLN chica and they get her to leave with them by counter-offering her 4500 pesos.
Blk Big Bootyluv
03-19-13, 21:29
Well on a positive note they did have good music and it was entertaining and well put together.
LOL. The funniest part is when they were in the suits and the 'star' had a guy to wipe his sweat and keep his sun glasses on his face LMAOOOO. Walking down PC in a full suit in August are you kidding me out would have been drenched LOL.
Poor guys getting all dressed up to empress 40 dollar hookers LOL. Classic (no pun intended)
I believe we are analyzing the video, what I saw was a group of very inexperienced travellers who didn't have much respect for the local culture; irrespective if someone was actually incarnate for ' false flagging ". They thought they were insulated from trouble because of their nationality and 'money".
I equate them balling out to a weekend in vegas however not balling out in the MGM nor Rio but at the local TGI Fridays.
Come on guys 40 to 1 $$$ you need to act like that. Hopefully they have learned their lesson and have safely moved on with their lives, never to return to the DR LOL.
The guy had a hell of a bday LOL. To bad us vets can't really appreciate it because we see DR for exactly what it is.
The old sosua of 2005/06 and prior is long gone. Imagine if we were in DR in the 80' early 90's wow thats a thought.
Ok my. 02 are over.
Peace,
BBL
Hell yeah, he made it rain on dem hoez! Dats how you do that shit (LOL)!
Even if he didn't have $50k to get out of jail, you certainly can't make that conclusion from the video (which is probably what the police, attorney, and judge went off of). It's funny how everyone here thinks we Vets are "corny" when we talk about playing everything down and blending in.
Check out 9:35 in the video. These are the dudes Trace talked about seeing in D'Latins a few weeks back (guys showing up in white suites and wearing shades at night with a reserved spot in D'Latins).
That's a bit of a harsh assessment, wouldn't you say? Sure they were very flamboyant in the video, but I did not see anyone slapping around or cursing out any chicas or other guys. I didn't see anyone threatening others with bodily harm either.I agree, they werent hurting anyone. They were just some young guys who were drinking and having some fun. Unfortunately, in this age, everyone wants to put their exploits on the internet for the entire world to see. They arent doing anything different that what I have seen in the past 25 years of traveling. I remember seeing plenty of guys taking videos in the Phillipines back in the 80s, only difference was there was no internet back then, so you just showed the video to a couple of buddies in your living room.
Manizales911
03-19-13, 21:51
I agree, they werent hurting anyone. They were just some young guys who were drinking and having some fun. Unfortunately, in this age, everyone wants to put their exploits on the internet for the entire world to see. They arent doing anything different that what I have seen in the past 25 years of traveling. I remember seeing plenty of guys taking videos in the Phillipines back in the 80s, only difference was there was no internet back then, so you just showed the video to a couple of buddies in your living room.IMHO anybody that wears sunglasses at night, a bow tie, sport jacket and vest on the Sosua strip is a DICK. That said, it doesn't bother me in the least, I've been called worse right here on this forum and so has Frannie, LOL.
DeepMmpactt
03-19-13, 21:52
Or even with some private video with a chica over 18 years old made for private (no internet sharing) use?
Who is Old Fred Sanford?Who's Fred Sanford? He just happens to be the "greatest junk man" on television that has ever lived! Lmao! He was known to have a convient fake heart attack. You can go to you tube and punch in "Sanford and son" the main character was Fred Sanford aka Red Fox the comedian. He. Had a son Lamont that worked. With him in the. Junk business and his. Best friend "Grady" Lmao! I hope we get. The full story of what happened to that guy and the. 50k extortion. Man everytime I go to the Dr, chicas grabbed thier ear lobe and touch their. Elbows" (sign for tight wad or cheap skate) maybe that's not such. A bad thing after. All. LOL! Shit I'm so broke a chica might think she would have. To."pay" me cause I'm so. Cheap, Shit she could use ME as a dependant, and write my ass off on her taxes' but thankyou Hillbilly69 for bringing this 50k scamm to our attention. Please keep us updated you to Bk Gee.
Yeah, I don't really see a problem with the video either. There are plenty of videos of various places in Sosua on the web. Problem is, when you're doing that in a 3rd world country it comes back to bite you in the ass. Especially when you are overly flamboyant. Would've been funny to watch the filming though. Maybe I'll need to swing by Classicos when I'm down there just to get the chance of amusement at seeing some "rappers" in action.
The Mind Bender
03-19-13, 22:18
I agree, they werent hurting anyone. They were just some young guys who were drinking and having some fun. Unfortunately, in this age, everyone wants to put their exploits on the internet for the entire world to see. They arent doing anything different that what I have seen in the past 25 years of traveling. I remember seeing plenty of guys taking videos in the Phillipines back in the 80s, only difference was there was no internet back then, so you just showed the video to a couple of buddies in your living room.I think a lot of these guys don't realize that they're not in their own hood and the people they interact with have more to gain from their deceit. These girls and guys around them do not have their best interest at heart and all the flashiness and stunting just makes them a target. Blinded by pussy and ego they fall right into the trap.
I'd love to do the villa orgy / party thing but I think I'll stick to hotels where they check IDs and such.
IMHO anybody that wears sunglasses at night, a bow tie, sport jacket and vest on the Sosua strip is a DICK. That said, it doesn't bother me in the least, I've been called worse right here on this forum and so has Frannie, LOL.Yes, just the fact that they were trying so hard to impress each other. And whom did they think would be their youtube audience?
Manizales911
03-19-13, 23:57
I think a lot of these guys don't realize that they're not in their own hood and the people they interact with have more to gain from their deceit. These girls and guys around them do not have their best interest at heart and all the flashiness and stunting just makes them a target. Blinded by pussy and ego they fall right into the trap.
I'd love to do the villa orgy / party thing but I think I'll stick to hotels where they check IDs and such.I've had some decent parties in villas, we just bring girls that we know and in some of the gated communities, Hispaniola being one of them, the guards at the guard shack take the girls I'd's. Biggest problem I have had is making too much noise, many of the neighboring villas have full time families living in them so if you are out by the pool at 3 a.m. With some loudmouths you might get thrown out. I roll solo most of the time but a couple of my wingmen can be idiots at times.
Tempoecorto
03-20-13, 03:50
He ain't in Jail he got out after 3 days and his gf signed for him and bail money, probably got his paspport he has been there for a month.I saw this video and will go out on a limb and ask a "dumb" question. What do some of you think is the reason for such ostentation. Is it his youth, his inexperience, his ego. His booze or as some commented on the you tube video, his black ghetto ass? From his face, he sure looked like a decent guy. As someone said here too, no foul mouthing or treating others badly. Before anyone takes it otherwise, I am a dark skinned guy but the only black folks I have known are at my Grad School. So I am curious. Would such a thing happen in any other group?
Sure Thing
03-20-13, 06:39
Here the damn video I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEu0ZWuHkOw&feature=youtu.be
I won't comment any more than that cause I would only be speculating.I was just reading through the forum and then searched for the vid so I can check it out. Apparently these guys had to be noobs but being brothers why would they make themselves look like tricks like this? I can understand if you stuntn in the states or london or something but the Dominican? Dude you stay low key, no wonder the cost going sky high, I didn't know it was this bad.
here the damn video i think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeu0zwuhkow&feature=youtu.be
i won't comment any more than that cause i would only be speculating.i guess ole boy was "big doing it!" not really my cup of tea but, i guess it is what he wanted to do. i can clearly see what got him in trouble. the video camera and posting his exploits on youtube. i guess he did not know that most of the girls that are doing their thing in sosua try to save face when they return to their hometown. posting the video on youtube was a serious offense to them because everyone in the dr goes on youtube. and one of the girls must have been crushed when she went home and everyone was calling her a hoe because they saw her shaking her naked ass on youtube. (dominicans are very vain and they are totally tied up in what others think of them (ie, i got a blackberry but i haven't eaten in a week.).
now, dude could have saved himself some drama had he paid the girls to do a video shoot with him. it probably would have been a few hundred dollars a broad but, he wouldn't have gotten the backlash that he got from paying girls to fuck then video taping them. example: there is a porn site that came over and filmed a girl. i know for sure was ****d at the time. i know the girl was 15 or 16 at the time because, i know the girl. they have the video posted all over the internet. these guy have never had a problem because they paid the girl to be filmed. another porn producer, habib, pays the girls to be filmed. the only issue he had was his male star trying to extort him and he makes light of this on his website.
now, this guy was throwing around his money like he was a big bawse but, he was throwing it in the wrong direction and it cost him. my moral,"do what you want to but, know what you are doing!"
i guess ole boy was "big doing it!" not really my cup of tea but, i guess it is what he wanted to do. i can clearly see what got him in trouble. the video camera and posting his exploits on youtube. i guess he did not know that most of the girls that are doing their thing in sosua try to save face when they return to their hometown. posting the video on youtube was a serious offense to them because everyone in the dr goes on youtube. and one of the girls must have been crushed when she went home and everyone was calling her a hoe because they saw her shaking her naked ass on youtube. (dominicans are very vain and they are totally tied up in what others think of them (ie, i got a blackberry but i haven't eaten in a week.).
now, dude could have saved himself some drama had he paid the girls to do a video shoot with him. it probably would have been a few hundred dollars a broad but, he wouldn't have gotten the backlash that he got from paying girls to fuck then video taping them. example: there is a porn site that came over and filmed a girl. i know for sure was ****d at the time. i know the girl was 15 or 16 at the time because, i know the girl. they have the video posted all over the internet. these guy have never had a problem because they paid the girl to be filmed. another porn producer, habib, pays the girls to be filmed. the only issue he had was his male star trying to extort him and he makes light of this on his website.
now, this guy was throwing around his money like he was a big bawse but, he was throwing it in the wrong direction and it cost him. my moral,"do what you want to but, know what you are doing!"wow ok. how does paying the girl remove the problem? hmmm as far as i can see paying a girl who is **** and then posting it on the internet is no different than doing so without paying her. meaning paying her doesn't make her over 18. same goes for saving her face in her home town. paying her or not makes absolutely no difference as to how her family will react. i mean can you imagine standing in front of a judge and after he accuses you of having sex and videotaping an **** girl and you replying: "but your honor i paid her." ya, that would make all the difference.
either something else must have occurred that is not obvious in the video, like for example the guy pissed off the wrong person. maybe one of the girls had relative in an influential position or a countless number of other things. i don't think we were given all the info in this case if indeed there is such a sum of money involved. i suppose it is possible the guy just had really bad luck but i don't see that
except for the case when fake cedula has been used.
this would probably will make you not liable?
as for paying chicas to make porn, what if you have a signed waiver?
wow ok. how does paying the girl remove the problem? hmmm as far as i can see paying a girl who is **** and then posting it on the internet is no different than doing so without paying her. meaning paying her doesn't make her over 18. same goes for saving her face in her home town. paying her or not makes absolutely no difference as to how her family will react. i mean can you imagine standing in front of a judge and after he accuses you of having sex and videotaping an **** girl and you replying: "but your honor i paid her." ya, that would make all the difference.
either something else must have occurred that is not obvious in the video, like for example the guy pissed off the wrong person. maybe one of the girls had relative in an influential position or a countless number of other things. i don't think we were given all the info in this case if indeed there is such a sum of money involved. i suppose it is possible the guy just had really bad luck but i don't see that
Spending money and busting nuts just another day in Sosua. Trying to maintain control but it is not easy. Sosua is a alive with sexual tension. The women are hungry and hopeful. They are just on the edge. They are using every thing they have to get leche for the baby. Two irresistible forces Hunger and sex collide on these dingy streets. As much as I know about the seen it still controls me. I am a sail caught in its winds. The women are like pretty store fronts with nothing on the shelves. Do not get me wrong. It is a blast sport fucking. The options in Sosua are staggering. As I write I am preparing to got to the bank and reload.
I saw this video and will go out on a limb and ask a "dumb" question. What do some of you think is the reason for such ostentation. Is it his youth, his inexperience, his ego. His booze or as some commented on the you tube video, his black ghetto ass? From his face, he sure looked like a decent guy. As someone said here too, no foul mouthing or treating others badly.No, I don't think it has anything to do with the "ghetto". In real life these guys are probably middle class and in gainful employment.
Actually the video must have involved quite a bit of work editing the video recordings and adding a sound track and so on, and I imagine the intention was to create something that resembles the videos that accompany gangster rap tracks to show off to their friends back home that they are enjoying the pop star lifestyle while on vacation.
Of course the irony is that the successful gangster rappers and musicians are probably spending their weekends on Tiger Wood's yacht or playing tennis at their country estates.
No, I don't think it has anything to do with the "ghetto". In real life these guys are probably middle class and in gainful employment.
Actually the video must have involved quite a bit of work editing the video recordings and adding a sound track and so on, and I imagine the intention was to create something that resembles the videos that accompany gangster rap tracks to show off to their friends back home that they are enjoying the pop star lifestyle while on vacation.
Of course the irony is that the successful gangster rappers and musicians are probably spending their weekends on Tiger Wood's yacht or playing tennis at their country estates.What planet are you from? Have you ever seen a rapper play tennis? Have you ever seen Tiger Woods with rappers? Better yet do you see Tiger Woods around black people other than Michael Jordan? You are so righteous in your own mind, that it never occurs to you that you always come off judgemental, conceited and bitter.
I tried to stay out this shit because the brothers were wrong. But in reality the dudes were just having fun. Mani, I love reading your posts about the trips through the DR on the back of a fruit truck or the one where you spent a lot money partying with chicas in your past, so I know you did some wild fun shit when you were young that older people would probably shake their head at.
Everyone feels this dude got what was coming, bullshit. No one should have ti be stuck in a backward ass, third world country without any resources over a damn video that showed naked consenting adults, until they can come up with 50k.
I will go back to my other projects now, have a good day.
P. S. Hillbilly, that fred Sanford comment was hilarious. I can see the red truck pulling up to Rumba now LOL.
except for the case when fake cedula has been used.
this would probably will make you not liable?
as for paying chicas to make porn, what if you have a signed waiver?if she is **** even with a fake cedula your prolly fucked either way. plus i don't believe waivers have much meaning in the dr
I saw this video and will go out on a limb and ask a "dumb" question. What do some of you think is the reason for such ostentation. Is it his youth, his inexperience, his ego. His booze or as some commented on the you tube video, his black ghetto ass? From his face, he sure looked like a decent guy. As someone said here too, no foul mouthing or treating others badly. Before anyone takes it otherwise, I am a dark skinned guy but the only black folks I have known are at my Grad School. So I am curious. Would such a thing happen in any other group?I am sure it had nothing to do with being black or ghetto, its a sign of the times. Its a young man thing! Nowadays, everyone wants to be famous and with the internet, your dream can come true. Videos like these have been made for years, its just that now people can post them up on the internet for the world to see. If the guys in the videos had been in thier 40s-50s, I would be shocked, but they all look to be in their early 20s.
Mongerman69
03-20-13, 17:33
I am sure it had nothing to do with being black or ghetto, its a sign of the times. Its a young man thing! Nowadays, everyone wants to be famous and with the internet, your dream can come true. Videos like these have been made for years, its just that now people can post them up on the internet for the world to see. If the guys in the videos had been in thier 40s-50s, I would be shocked, but they all look to be in their early 20s.My favorite part has to be the money throwing. Lmao. Absolute definition of, 'trying way too hard'.
Lazy Monger
03-20-13, 19:32
Well, the guy who posted the video was told about 4 months ago on YouTube that it was causing a stir and he shouldn't go back. So dude appears to be a victim of his own hubris. It's all fun and games when the lax rule of law facilitates the party but it can come back to bite and dudes need to understand that. If they want to make an example of any one of us they can and whatever legal expectations you have in your country do not apply. Mongering is tolerated not encouraged and whenever mongers get too visible there is usually blowback.
It happened in Rio when certain mongers started overstepping the boundaries. Whenever the weekend ballas take over a spot the drama usually goes up.
They get too comfortable and become easy marks.
Everyone feels this dude got what was coming, bullshit. No one should have ti be stuck in a backward ass, third world country without any resources over a damn video that showed naked consenting adults, until they can come up with 50k.
I will go back to my other projects now, have a good day.
P. S. Hillbilly, that fred Sanford comment was hilarious. I can see the red truck pulling up to Rumba now LOL.
Hillbilly69
03-20-13, 19:34
Well, the guy who posted the video was told about 4 months ago on YouTube that it was causing a stir and he shouldn't go back. So dude appears to be a victim of his own hubris. It's all fun and games when the lax rule of law facilitates the party but it can come back to bite and dudes need to understand that. If they want to make an example of any one of us they can and whatever legal expectations you have in your country do not apply. Mongering is tolerated not encouraged and whenever mongers get too visible there is usually blowback.
It happened in Rio when certain mongers started overstepping the boundaries. Whenever the weekend ballas take over a spot the drama usually goes up.
They get too comfortable and become easy marks.It ain't Cmo-Cakes that got in trouble it is a different dude in the video.
Lazy Monger
03-20-13, 20:10
It ain't Cmo-Cakes that got in trouble it is a different dude in the video.Damn. That sux.
Manizales911
03-20-13, 20:11
What planet are you from? Have you ever seen a rapper play tennis? Have you ever seen Tiger Woods with rappers? Better yet do you see Tiger Woods around black people other than Michael Jordan? You are so righteous in your own mind, that it never occurs to you that you always come off judgemental, conceited and bitter.
I tried to stay out this shit because the brothers were wrong. But in reality the dudes were just having fun. Mani, I love reading your posts about the trips through the DR on the back of a fruit truck or the one where you spent a lot money partying with chicas in your past, so I know you did some wild fun shit when you were young that older people would probably shake their head at.
Everyone feels this dude got what was coming, bullshit. No one should have ti be stuck in a backward ass, third world country without any resources over a damn video that showed naked consenting adults, until they can come up with 50k.
I will go back to my other projects now, have a good day.
P. S. Hillbilly, that fred Sanford comment was hilarious. I can see the red truck pulling up to Rumba now LOL.Gogo, Just to clarify I would NEVER, EVER wish this on anybody under those circumstances and certainly do not feel as though he had it coming to him. I do stand by my comment about the dude in the bow tie acting like a dick though, and by no means think that acting like a dick deserves punishment.
What planet are you from? Have you ever seen a rapper play tennis?Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph36QYdJfK8
Have you ever seen Tiger Woods with rappers? Better yet do you see Tiger Woods around black people other than Michael Jordan?Who knows who Tiger Woods hangs out with? His yacht is named "Privacy". When he was a happily married man the general public certainly didn't know he was hanging out with strippers and waitresses, because his PR was strictly controlled and he maintained his privacy.
But my point is, it's the same with rappers. It is just a stage name and an image for public consumption, that is probably no reflection on their private lives. Anyone can pick a stage name like R Soul and put an act on the road (if they have the talent and ability.) Of course people act wild and every other word is "fuck","*****", or "hoe" when they are in their stage persona or appearing for promotional spots, but it would be rather naive to think that they behave that way at home around their own parents or their own children.
I'm still not clear precisely what these guys in the video did wrong and I think I have seen most of the video, painful though it is to watch.
Not sure I buy the "just having fun" thing. Someone went to quite a bit of trouble to film, edit, and put together the video and publish it, no doubt selecting what they wanted to show and leaving out what they wanted to leave out, so it is a deliberate artefact, not a completely spontaneous thing.
SavePros321
03-20-13, 20:43
Mongering is tolerated not encouraged and whenever mongers get too visible there is usually blowback.I agree with this statement 100%.
SavePros321
03-20-13, 20:47
It ain't Cmo-Cakes that got in trouble it is a different dude in the video.Cmo-Cakes is probably still going to steer clear of the DR after his boy relayed to him what went down. The guy that got locked up probably had to name names of all the other guys in the video and after they got $50k out of him, they probably have Cmo-Cakes and all the other guys in the video's passports flagged in case they every re-enter the DR.
Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph36QYdJfK8
Who knows who Tiger Woods hangs out with? His yacht is named "Privacy". When he was a happily married man the general public certainly didn't know he was hanging out with strippers and waitresses, because his PR was strictly controlled and he maintained his privacy.
But my point is, it's the same with rappers. It is just a stage name and an image for public consumption, that is probably no reflection on their private lives. Anyone can pick a stage name like R Soul and put an act on the road (if they have the talent and ability.) Of course people act wild and every other word is "fuck","*", or "hoe" when they are in their stage persona or appearing for promotional spots, but it would be rather naive to think that they behave that way at home around their own parents or their own children.
I'm still not clear precisely what these guys in the video did wrong and I think I have seen most of the video, painful though it is to watch.
Not sure I buy the "just having fun" thing. Someone went to quite a bit of trouble to film, edit, and put together the video and publish it, no doubt selecting what they wanted to show and leaving out what they wanted to leave out, so it is a deliberate artefact, not a completely spontaneous thing.I saw the video and Serena Williams is not a rapper. I guess you couldn't find a video of a rapper playing tennis, but I understand that you will never admit that you are wrong.
We know who Tiger Woods hangs out with, white people never rapper's. Also with rappers its all about street cred, so if they ever went to the country club it could make them look phony. Sure they can live in mansions in exclusive neighborhoods and drive bentleys, but. Those are just the products of hard work in their eyes.
Mani, my point is that when you were young that you had your share of fun that older peiple didn't understand. Shit! You do crazy / fun shit that would scare the shit out of me. Riding in the back of a fruit truck through the DR.
OK I read back 3 pages and couldn't get an explanation of whats going on. I am assuming that the guy in the video was arrested and charges were pressed and some chica is demanding 50K to have the charges dropped?
This was clearly a well orchestrated set up involving a huge payday for The Fiscal, and all lawyers involved, the girls are lucky to get RD10K Pesos out of this.
Blk Big Bootyluv
03-21-13, 00:16
I agree with this thought.
So dude appears to be a victim of his own hubris. It's all fun and games when the lax rule of law facilitates the party but it can come back to bite and dudes need to understand that. Mongering is tolerated not encouraged and whenever mongers get too visible there is usually blowback.
It happened in Rio when certain mongers started overstepping the boundaries. Whenever the weekend ballas take over a spot the drama usually goes up.
They get too comfortable and become easy marks.Mongers always have to remember that they are not on their own turf and remain humble.
Don't get me wrong. Absolutely no one deserves that type of treatment and rainbows should have a pot of gold at the end of them and I should be able to buy rotisserie chicken without having half of it covered in flies when I go to the chicken man. Hey the world ain't perfect nor fair, the guys needed a vet to show the ropes / do's & don'ts however in retrospect my momma always said a hard head makes a soft ass.
Local guys in DR are not your friends cuzz your such a great guy and someone to look up to, like a hero. No they want some of your crumbs to spill over on them on the off chance he does nothing for your or hangs around long enough that you tip him. First and for-most he is look for an opportunity to improve his situation, cuzz between me and you, your doing ok. In the Caribbean sipping a Cuba libre at merengue bar after banging a chick 30 min ago in your room at NG. Protect yo'self at all times.
Respect, common sense and with will take a person a long way
Peace,
BBL
There seems to be a trend of more and more, younger, 'baller' types that are coming to Sosua. They also don't seem to be members on this board so I'm guessing they are not taking the valuable and necessary precautions that are listed here as 'what not to do. ' I see things getting worse for this crowd. Chicas will soon want much higher prices for ST and TLN from anyone that is trying to look like a 'baller. ' Being marked as an easy target, extortion will rise from these peoples foolish egos and prideful ignorance. People in the DR may not be very well educated but when it comes to foolish American prey, their street smarts seem to be up to par.
I think in the long run, and it may take a while, this baller crowd will end up shooting themselves in the foot and may stop coming if they're constantly getting fucked with. Maybe they'll learn and leave the bling back in the states.doubtful. I also see the hardcore puta chicas gravitating to this crowd with the allure coming from both parties. These guys like to treat ho's like a ho and respect doesn't seem to be in their cards.
I know I'm new to Sosua but I have a feeling some girls will sacrifice being treated like shit for a few extra bucks and would still rather find a guy that'll be less demeaning that they can actually have fun with.
Even with 'ballers' trying to make it rain, there still may be a Sosua left for the rest of us.
SavePros321
03-21-13, 01:37
This was clearly a well orchestrated set up involving a huge payday for The Fiscal, and all lawyers involved, the girls are lucky to get RD10K Pesos out of this.Once you start to see little booths with attorneys pop up next to D'Latin, Clasicos, and across from Terra Linda (and the attorneys in them handing you their business card as you enter said establishments) , then we know it's officially "game over", LOL!
There seems to be a trend of more and more, younger, 'baller' types that are coming to Sosua. They also don't seem to be members on this board so I'm guessing they are not taking the valuable and necessary precautions that are listed here as 'what not to do. ' I see things getting worse for this crowd. Chicas will soon want much higher prices for ST and TLN from anyone that is trying to look like a 'baller. ' Being marked as an easy target, extortion will rise from these peoples foolish egos and prideful ignorance. People in the DR may not be very well educated but when it comes to foolish American prey, their street smarts seem to be up to par.
I think in the long run, and it may take a while, this baller crowd will end up shooting themselves in the foot and may stop coming if they're constantly getting fucked with. Maybe they'll learn and leave the bling back in the states. Doubtful. I also see the hardcore puta chicas gravitating to this crowd with the allure coming from both parties. These guys like to treat ho's like a ho and respect doesn't seem to be in their cards.
I know I'm new to Sosua but I have a feeling some girls will sacrifice being treated like shit for a few extra bucks and would still rather find a guy that'll be less demeaning that they can actually have fun with.
Even with 'ballers' trying to make it rain, there still may be a Sosua left for the rest of us.Actually when Classicos closed a lot of the young brothers stopped going to Sosua. What you now have is a few leftovers who come for the weekend. Newgardens used to have young brothers all week, now you see a few on the weekends. As I said before, it appears Sosua is following the Costa Rica model. Bars with older affluent suburbian types who don't mind over-paying for an hour romp with a hot Dominicana. You can see it going in this direction by the actions of the girls. We have already gotten away from the GFE and girls are mostly doing ST. We see the girls doing rush service more now. CBJ and pre-payment will be next. There are no discos except "After one". We are also seeing more scams now, so buy your quick pussy and don't protest shit and you will be okay.
I was always afraid that everyone will switch it and blame the young brothers for everything bad in Sosua. But I remember these same young brothers in 08 and 09 and everything was lovely. I think there are different dynamics at play that have forced the changes in Sosua.
When Brazil closed down we had all the ex Brazil guys looking for the next fuckfest. These guys didn't learn the language or make connections in Brazil so they headed to Sosua. Understand that up until 2010 Sosua was a friendly town with friendly girls. The girls would stay with you for your whole vacation and treat you like a king, you were their boyfriend. They would invite you to meet the family, they would offer to cook a Dominican meal for you, you would see couples walking around holding hands, and you would see girls at breakfast after a wonderful night. You would have to pay them to leave to have some privacy and it wouldn't cost but 2000p after them hanging with you for the whole weekend.
Now the sportfucking mentality has taken over. These new guys didn't want GFE, they only wanted to bang a girl for an hour. So naturally the girls got with the game and in doing so realized that they could make just as much money not doing GFE. In gaining more daily clients they girls got hardcore, because now they werent getting the respect from these quick fuckers, it became all buisiness. The girls also faded quickly, just look at how the girls in Sosua now look compared to 09. There is no love for the clients, hence the increase in scams.
While all this was happening there was also "New Money" coming from Europe. This new vision is dictated by the money until it dries up and the Dominicans find more"New Money". Just look at all the new places that have opened and closed in the last year alone.
I have no desire to ever return to Sosua except for maybe an over nighter, and Sosua used to be my away home. All of the girls I used to bang in Sosua have moved back home to Santiago and Puerto Plata and hate this new Sosua. Sosua has played out and those going there now are the newbies and guys who go for the beach and bars.
There seems to be a trend of more and more, younger, 'baller' types that are coming to Sosua. They also don't seem to be members on this board so I'm guessing they are not taking the valuable and necessary precautions that are listed here as 'what not to do. ' I see things getting worse for this crowd. Chicas will soon want much higher prices for ST and TLN from anyone that is trying to look like a 'baller. ' Being marked as an easy target, extortion will rise from these peoples foolish egos and prideful ignorance. People in the DR may not be very well educated but when it comes to foolish American prey, their street smarts seem to be up to par.
I think in the long run, and it may take a while, this baller crowd will end up shooting themselves in the foot and may stop coming if they're constantly getting fucked with. Maybe they'll learn and leave the bling back in the states. Doubtful. I also see the hardcore puta chicas gravitating to this crowd with the allure coming from both parties. These guys like to treat ho's like a ho and respect doesn't seem to be in their cards.
I know I'm new to Sosua but I have a feeling some girls will sacrifice being treated like shit for a few extra bucks and would still rather find a guy that'll be less demeaning that they can actually have fun with.
Even with 'ballers' trying to make it rain, there still may be a Sosua left for the rest of us.I speak to C-Mo on the phone all the time. I told them there mistakes. There I s no reason to go to Sosua like a blaller, when to do that, you have no room to bargin at this point, all they see is $$$$$$ all over you, once you pay one a high price, the word gets arounds. I dress nice when I go, that bring shit is not needed, there. You can take your picks and videos, don't post it on youtube, keep some things private, or it can bite you. Now the funny thing is, C-MO was not the one who was arrested, his boy was, once he comes how on USA soil, I will tell you guys the whole story, also the pick of the chica that set them up. As Kevin Heart says, You going to learn today!
It ain't Cmo-Cakes that got in trouble it is a different dude in the video.C-Mo is been back to the state is home boy is the 1 that got arrested, that's funny because he's the 1 that call the girls when they landed 2 pop because they always hang with the same crew everytime they in Sosua.
Hillbilly69
03-21-13, 02:52
Once you start to see little booths with attorneys pop up next to D'Latin, Clasicos, and across from Terra Linda (and the attorneys in them handing you their business card as you enter said establishments) , then we know it's officially "game over", LOL!I bought a new Bow tie that spins and now taking apps for 2 Circus Midgets to wipe my brow! I think I could pull off a Pitbull wannabe video.
Mr Enternational
03-21-13, 03:05
My favorite part has to be the money throwing. Lmao. Absolute definition of, 'trying way too hard'.They should have never gave those ______ cameras!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph36qydjfk8
i'm still not clear precisely what these guys in the video did wrong and i think i have seen most of the video, painful though it is to watch.
not sure i buy the "just having fun" thing. someone went to quite a bit of trouble to film, edit, and put together the video and publish it, no doubt selecting what they wanted to show and leaving out what they wanted to leave out, so it is a deliberate artefact, not a completely spontaneous thing.just an observation but "if" the girls are ****" and they are given alcohol and drugs, like one of the girls rolling a blunt. that would be big news on all the news channels in the us. i'm sure it would be a big deal in the dr.
but nobody knows the facts yet.
the behavior in the video is not my style, but for all the people killing these guys for what they did, you guys can't tell me you never did anything stupid in your teenage or 20's when you were young. many people around the world would be saying we are stupid for paying for sex.
i just see young guys having stupid fun.
Blk Big Bootyluv
03-21-13, 04:00
Good point. Yeah DR is on the up swing as far as marketing and popularity but, like anything it will be played out when the fad is over. When the less informed are ram roaded and ram roded or whatever metaphor you want to use for getting screwed. Those of us with staying power and experience can still have our fun. Like it has been said before Thailand has seen it PI has seen it Rio has seen it Jamaica etc. It won't be long before Haiti is the next spot. I mean really they can really "ball out" over there.
Surprisingly, with as much marketing as Punta Cana gets, I'm surprised that a small Sosua hasn't popped up over there. Oh my bad, I forgot, you have to be a sitting USA Senator to get into that club. LOL.
Peace,
BBL
They should have never gave those ______ cameras!
Once you start to see little booths with attorneys pop up next to D'Latin, Clasicos, and across from Terra Linda (and the attorneys in them handing you their business card as you enter said establishments) , then we know it's officially "game over", LOL!
There seems to be a trend of more and more, younger, 'baller' types that are coming to Sosua. They also don't seem to be members on this board so I'm guessing they are not taking the valuable and necessary precautions that are listed here as 'what not to do. ' I see things getting worse for this crowd. Chicas will soon want much higher prices for ST and TLN from anyone that is trying to look like a 'baller. ' Being marked as an easy target, extortion will rise from these peoples foolish egos and prideful ignorance. People in the DR may not be very well educated but when it comes to foolish American prey, their street smarts seem to be up to par.
I think in the long run, and it may take a while, this baller crowd will end up shooting themselves in the foot and may stop coming if they're constantly getting fucked with. Maybe they'll learn and leave the bling back in the states. Doubtful. I also see the hardcore puta chicas gravitating to this crowd with the allure coming from both parties. These guys like to treat ho's like a ho and respect doesn't seem to be in their cards.
I know I'm new to Sosua but I have a feeling some girls will sacrifice being treated like shit for a few extra bucks and would still rather find a guy that'll be less demeaning that they can actually have fun with.
Even with 'ballers' trying to make it rain, there still may be a Sosua left for the rest of us.
They should have never gave those ______ cameras!Lmao. Nice Dave Chappelle reference
The Mind Bender
03-21-13, 07:32
These guys come to Sosua to escape American women but they act the same way as they do at home (making it rain etc) so they're basically creating the same environment in another country
It's like littering in paradise LOL.
The girls are going to cop attitudes, hike up the prices and before you know it things will be no different than in the states.
There seems to be a trend of more and more, younger, 'baller' types that are coming to Sosua. They also don't seem to be members on this board so I'm guessing they are not taking the valuable and necessary precautions that are listed here as 'what not to do. ' I see things getting worse for this crowd. Chicas will soon want much higher prices for ST and TLN from anyone that is trying to look like a 'baller. ' Being marked as an easy target, extortion will rise from these peoples foolish egos and prideful ignorance. People in the DR may not be very well educated but when it comes to foolish American prey, their street smarts seem to be up to par.
I think in the long run, and it may take a while, this baller crowd will end up shooting themselves in the foot and may stop coming if they're constantly getting fucked with. Maybe they'll learn and leave the bling back in the states. Doubtful. I also see the hardcore puta chicas gravitating to this crowd with the allure coming from both parties. These guys like to treat ho's like a ho and respect doesn't seem to be in their cards.
I know I'm new to Sosua but I have a feeling some girls will sacrifice being treated like shit for a few extra bucks and would still rather find a guy that'll be less demeaning that they can actually have fun with.
Even with 'ballers' trying to make it rain, there still may be a Sosua left for the rest of us.
I have no desire to ever return to Sosua except for maybe an over nighter, and Sosua used to be my away home.Come on Mr. Gogo! I would still meet you in Sosua anytime! I have a great phone list, and I don't have to play with the bullshit that now is offered in Sosua. There are some wonderful women in the area and I will continue to go there until I pass out; which I have done in the past.
Each trip, I find more great girls to play with and others that I will repeat, like OUR NG hot girl! I love the DR girls, for different reasons that I love the LOS girls, but it is all good!
The Walking Party
Mr Enternational
03-21-13, 09:31
just an observation but "if" the girls are ****" and they are given alcohol and drugs, like one of the girls rolling a blunt. that would be big news on all the news channels in the us. i'm sure it would be a big deal in the dr.it definitely would not make it to the news in the us if it is truly an extortion case as people on this board are saying it is.
the behavior in the video is not my style, but for all the people killing these guys for what they did, you guys can't tell me you never did anything stupid in your teenage or 20's when you were young. i just see young guys having stupid fun.sure i did, but the guys in the video are way past being teenagers and are far from their 20s, except for that young a-rod guy. really i see nothing wrong with the video. or maybe the video i have is different from the one everyone else has seen. some chicks wanted to take their clothes off and get in the pool? is that really illegal and how could the men in the video be held responsible for that? you see what appears to be marijuana in the video. the problem is how could they prove what it was from a video? get real guys. if someone is really in trouble then it is not from what is shown in the video.
I saw the video and Serena Williams is not a rapper. I guess you couldn't find a video of a rapper playing tennis, but I understand that you will never admit that you are wrong.Don't be silly.
The tall guy with frizzy hair hitting the ball at the other end from Selena Williams is a rapper. Tennis requires two players, one at each end of the "field", which is called the "court". His name is Redfoo. He is the son of Berry Gordy, the founder of Tamla Motown Records, a famous recording label before your time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redfoo#Personal_life
Don't be silly.
The tall guy with frizzy hair hitting the ball at the other end from Selena Williams is a rapper. Tennis requires two players, one at each end of the "field", which is called the "court". His name is Redfoo. He is the son of Berry Gordy, the founder of Tamla Motown Records, a famous recording label before your time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redfoo
#Personal_lifeIt's hard for me to pay attention to a guy when you have big assed Serena on the court. I guess I stand corrected, see Gogo has no problem saying it. I'm more amazed that you know about "Motown", I'm sure you Googled it.
It definitely would not make it to the news in the US if it is truly an extortion case as people on this board are saying it is.
Sure I did, but the guys in the video are way past being teenagers and are far from their 20s, except for that Young A-Rod guy. Really I see nothing wrong with the video. Or maybe the video I have is different from the one everyone else has seen. Some chicks wanted to take their clothes off and get in the pool? Is that really illegal and how could the men in the video be held responsible for that? You see what appears to be marijuana in the video. The problem is how could they prove what it was from a video? Get real guys. If someone is really in trouble then it is not from what is shown in the video.From what I understand of the DR justice system which is not a lot, it isn't up to the DOminicans to prove it was weed, or how illegal any of the behavior is, its up to the gringos to prove it wasn't. This isn't the US, casting shadow of doubt won't work from what I seen, but again, I am not a lawyer or fiscal.
It's hard for me to pay attention to a guy when you have big assed Serena on the court.I knew that was it! Don't lose too much sleep over it.
See if you can spot the rapper in this picture.
http://cdn.straightfromthea.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Serena_Williams_Common_Barbados.jpg
I knew that was it! Don't lose too much sleep over it.
See if you can spot the rapper in this picture.
http://cdn.straightfromthea.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Serena_Williams_Common_Barbados.jpgThats "Common", but damn Serena looks edible. Better hope Sir Charles doesn't see that picture. He might think she is Haitian and jack off to the picture.
Member #4480
03-21-13, 16:56
from what i understand of the dr justice system which is not a lot, it isn't up to the dominicans to prove it was weed, or how illegal any of the behavior is, its up to the gringos to prove it wasn't. this isn't the us, casting shadow of doubt won't work from what i seen, but again, i am not a lawyer or fiscal.i see the potential for multiple charges here, including but not limited to:
1) possession of drugs
2) obscenity (naked girls)
3) defilement (if **** girls)
4) distribution without consent.
to reiterate your point, the burden of proof is on the defendant, not the prosecutor. translation, he had to either buy his way out or do the time. funny thing is, you can get away with murder in the dr for far less than $50k, so i suspect that he just lacked negotiation skills.
ThatGuy865
03-21-13, 18:45
i think one thing which isn't mentioned. if one of the girls was truly ****.
the dr doesn't need to prosecute. only threaten to turn the guy over to the fed's. it is illegal for a usa citizen to have sex with an **** girl anywhere in the world.
they can and would be prosecuted by the usa "if" the **** is true. and reported to the usa
so that threat alone is worth 50k. if one of the girls was under 18.
that's why senator menedez was a big story. not becos he had to worry about going back to the dr. if true, he could have been prosecuted in the usa for **** sex.
Damn, I hate to break the great debating mood, but I do have a burning question.
Has anyone spotted crazy ass Patricia in Sosua lately? I sure do miss that wild ass woman!
DeepMmpactt
03-21-13, 19:41
I speak to C-Mo on the phone all the time. I told them there mistakes. There I s no reason to go to Sosua like a blaller, when to do that, you have no room to bargin at this point, all they see is $$$$$$ all over you, once you pay one a high price, the word gets arounds. I dress nice when I go, that bring shit is not needed, there. You can take your picks and videos, don't post it on youtube, keep some things private, or it can bite you. Now the funny thing is, C-MO was not the one who was arrested, his boy was, once he comes how on USA soil, I will tell you guys the whole story, also the pick of the chica that set them up. As Kevin Heart says, You going to learn today!My question is " Why didn't C-mo get locked up?" Since you talked to him maybe tell him he should "C-less stunting" and "C-Mo bail money" and I'm pretty sure, his homie has to think "Damn it wasn't even my birthday Why the hell am I locked up and not C-mo?", shit How did C-mo get out the country and his homie didn't? If the authorities would've caught C-mo, I bet that 50k would've been "peanuts" compared to the main "stunner" C-mo probably 150k US dollars! I agree a message being sent to C-mo, through what's happening through his homie" set foot in the Dominican Republic again, We will waxed that ass" then he can make the sequel to his movie" Locked up and they won't let me out"
DeepMmpactt
03-21-13, 21:40
I speak to C-Mo on the phone all the time. I told them there mistakes. There I s no reason to go to Sosua like a blaller, when to do that, you have no room to bargin at this point, all they see is $$$$$$ all over you, once you pay one a high price, the word gets arounds. I dress nice when I go, that bring shit is not needed, there. You can take your picks and videos, don't post it on youtube, keep some things private, or it can bite you. Now the funny thing is, C-MO was not the one who was arrested, his boy was, once he comes how on USA soil, I will tell you guys the whole story, also the pick of the chica that set them up. As Kevin Heart says, You going to learn today!My question is " Why didn't C-mo get locked up?" Since you talked to him maybe tell him he should "C-less stunting" and "C-Mo bail money" and I'm pretty sure, his homie has to think "Damn it wasn't even my birthday Why the hell am I locked up and not C-mo?", shit How did C-mo get out the country and his homie didn't? If the authorities would've caught C-mo, I bet that 50k would've been "peanuts" compared to the main "stunner" C-mo probably 150k US dollars! I agree a message being sent to C-mo, through what's happening through his homie" set foot in the Dominican Republic again, We will waxed that ass" then he can make the sequel to his movie" Locked up and they won't let me out"
ended my sousa trip with my two wing men in tow. 3 days there is my limit in sosua. the number of gorgeous women is still awesome. picking miss right now is a challenge. my last session was the best a repeat of my 1st of my last trip. then she was a 19 year old newbie now she is a 19 year old pro. i needed to soften her up. so hot shower, baby oil and a toy had her shaking in my bed. she returned favor and made my toes curl. i gave her the toy for her good work. black gomer is now chocalate scrooge. this cheep bastard stiffed a shoe shine kid. sitting at my la rumba table with a $8000 watch and a 7000 dollar camera. would not give a kid a 100 peso tip. i gave the kis 25 pesos the mf wanted to include my pesos in his shoe shine. i went off like a rocket. i said things to him that peeled paint words of other wingman.
AlwaysHorny 2
03-21-13, 22:19
Booked my trip for the DR around my bday (mid May).
I know I kinda wrote off Sosua, but it keeps pulling me back. I'm rolling solo this time. I enjoyed renting a villa. So much so that I do not want to stay at a hotel.
Are there any good condo rentals you recommend? I know the standard RTFF applies, but cute some slack! LOL. At least I always write trip reports! .
Damn, I hate to break the great debating mood, but I do have a burning question.
Has anyone spotted crazy ass Patricia in Sosua lately? I sure do miss that wild ass woman!She was in Sosua when I left a week ago.
Booked my trip for the DR around my bday (mid May).
I know I kinda wrote off Sosua, but it keeps pulling me back. I'm rolling solo this time. I enjoyed renting a villa. So much so that I do not want to stay at a hotel.
Are there any good condo rentals you recommend? I know the standard RTFF applies, but cute some slack! LOL. At least I always write trip reports! .Yeah I agree Sosua has some magical hold on me too. Each time I go there I tell myself I will not return. But somehow I always come back there.
Rocky has a few condos for rent. He seems to be a decent, honest chap. Not converted into a Dominican yet but it should only be a matter of time until he begins ripping off his customers. Somehow DR does that to you.
it definitely would not make it to the news in the us if it is truly an extortion case as people on this board are saying it is.
sure i did, but the guys in the video are way past being teenagers and are far from their 20s, except for that young a-rod guy. really i see nothing wrong with the video. or maybe the video i have is different from the one everyone else has seen. some chicks wanted to take their clothes off and get in the pool? is that really illegal and how could the men in the video be held responsible for that? you see what appears to be marijuana in the video. the problem is how could they prove what it was from a video? get real guys. if someone is really in trouble then it is not from what is shown in the video.i was hoping that you had posted this on fb board, anyway the video was not the problem, just a small part. what it boils down to is, is this, the one chick that had her old floppy as tits hanging anyira, was the ring leader. she lied and said that they were drugged, and tied up ect. first off, non of the girls were ****, she is about 30 years old. all the other girls were in there early 20's. i'll just say this part for now, i have to post it piece, cause he is still there.
Lazy Monger
03-22-13, 00:30
And there you go. The mind boggles. Saw that shit in Rio and seeing it in Sosua. Dudes fucking up any leverage they had going to a third world country.
These guys come to Sosua to escape American women but they act the same way as they do at home (making it rain etc) so they're basically creating the same environment in another country
It's like littering in paradise LOL.
The girls are going to cop attitudes, hike up the prices and before you know it things will be no different than in the states.
Lazy Monger
03-22-13, 00:51
He is not the first gringo to get caught up because he posted a chicks picture on the internet. Not sure of the other particulars but posting that video on Youtube was a bad idea. Dudes have gotten in trouble in Brazil, Colombia and the DR for shooting videos. All it takes is one disgruntled chick or one that is looking to get over. The legal system in these countries can be very flexible. And remember if the stakes are high enough, your "favorita", your "novia" or your "girl" will set your ass up.
4) Distribution without consent.
To reiterate your point, the burden of proof is on the defendant, not the prosecutor. Translation, he had to either buy his way out or do the time. Funny thing is, you can get away with murder in the DR for far less than $50k, so I suspect that he just lacked negotiation skills.
The Mind Bender
03-22-13, 00:58
My last (and 1st) time at NG I stayed in one of the bottom rooms facing the pool.
What's the best room to stay in? (jacuzzi included)
Also can you request a specific room on booking?
Don Antonio
03-22-13, 01:46
I can see one of the Yankee's getting taking to the cleaners.
No language skills. No cultural skills: Other than,"I am 'hood and you can't touch me!"
Also, let's give a discount of 20% for being black. 20% for being from NY, and 20. Did he even know the country he was in?
I still can't fathom the math!
$50, 000 US$. RIDICULOUS.
UNHEARD OF!
Props to PN (policia natiocional) , abogados, fiscal, chicas to pulling this off!
DeepMmpactt
03-22-13, 02:06
Damn, I hate to break the great debating mood, but I do have a burning question.
Has anyone spotted crazy ass Patricia in Sosua lately? I sure do miss that wild ass woman!I saw Patricia, on my last trip in February, she sure has let herself go. I notice she gained a lot of "weight" and her weave or hair looks tired". Maybe Tomjackin you could fix her."crazy insane ass" up, she used to look. Sexy and. She. Was. Crazy" now she's just. Crazy" minus the. Sexy part. I was wondering How. Did C-mo escape jail time and his homie didn't? I. Guess. There's more. Details yet to come. Wow this board always preached over and over" again about trying to "Ball" or give the. Appearance of a " baller" I think C-mo dodged a bullet if they. Got his boy for 50K Us, they probably would've. Gotten 150k, or at least asked for that insane amount. C-mo you've been warned. I don't think Sosua is in his near future. If he. Does go back, he can start the sequel to his. Birthday. Movie "Locked up they won't. Let me out" lmao!
Damn, I hate to break the great debating mood, but I do have a burning question.
Has anyone spotted crazy ass Patricia in Sosua lately? I sure do miss that wild ass woman!Saw her last month. She had a cast on her arm and was wearing a baseball cap the 2 days I saw her.
Sure Thing
03-22-13, 02:47
And there you go. The mind boggles. Saw that shit in Rio and seeing it in Sosua. Dudes fucking up any leverage they had going to a third world country.
And there you go. The mind boggles. Saw that shit in Rio and seeing it in Sosua. Dudes fucking up any leverage they had going to a third world country.I've done the dumb shyt these brothers did before and not a day goes by I don't be like "WTF was I thinking?". But I didn't know. For one I didn't know about this forum where I could rtff and plus I was fresh and green on the traveling scene especially to south America. I relied on an old timer which I thought he knew the do's and don'ts which turned out to be my down fall. He told me to get my visa and head with him and his boys to brazil and he would show me the ropes. He said to bring a suit because he wanted to ball out of control on the day of his birthday. I was so exited, LOL. I went and got my visa, got my shyt together and was ready to go. Now before I continue my story this is what I originally thought. I figured by going with him I would have the inside scoop and that the finances would be pretty low and that he would probably have some chicas already lined up because of this years he has been going to Rio. So I was going to leach off their friends or sisters with my charm and just have a blast. I was wrong.
We met up at the club help (when it was still opened) on his birthday as planed with our player suits, pop'and champagne in the V. I. P section (that the club had to fix for our crew, which should have been a sign to me that I would lookn like an ass) stuntn and having a good old time. At this time I started to feel kinda weird. Why are we here doing this, for what? I kinda look back now and remember the true vets. They were kinda standing around almost in the shadows not standing out at all. They were probably thinking you dumb shyts. I realized that the guy I was with that trip, was one of the biggest tricks of Rio and these chicas love to see him steppn off the plane because they knew there bills were going to get paid for the next couple of months. That next day I distance myself from his crew and kinda did my own thing. I told him "you guys are big timers I can't hang with you guys yall major playas" but what I really wanted to say is "You ignorant bafoons, jacking up and inflating the cost, ruining it for everybody, what the hell is wrong with you! You might as well wear an ATM sign on your damn fore head!"
After that I never went back to Rio with him I always did my own thing. But as you said it is true. I saw as Rio went down the tubes and hated that I missed the glory days. Sosua is going the same route. But what I really hate is I was one of these clowns that contributed to the silliness of trying to ball out in a country where your green is the only pull regardless of who you are. I used my blue passport status to it's full advantage but never again I did some dumb shyt like that. I'm not going to lie this old dude had some stunnas by his side but trust me he was paying out of his ass for it when I was pulling 10's with a wink and a smile.
Saw her last month. She had a cast on her arm and was wearing a baseball cap the 2 days I saw her.Thanks for the info. If she is in town, she seems to find me one way or another. The last couple visits, I heard some Gringo with big money had her in wraps. Not sure how true it was.
My last (and 1st) time at NG I stayed in one of the bottom rooms facing the pool.
What's the best room to stay in? (jacuzzi included)
Also can you request a specific room on booking?My best advice is a room in the new wing. If you walk straight into NG, once you get to the pool, beyond it, to the right. This is the newest part of the hotel. I've not been in NG for quite some time but back then they were asking for more money per room.
Getting a room on the lower floor, facing the pool, can be quite noisy sometimes. Try to get something on a top floor.
Hillbilly69
03-22-13, 12:02
i was hoping that you had posted this on fb board, anyway the video was not the problem, just a small part. what it boils down to is, is this, the one chick that had her old floppy as tits hanging anyira, was the ring leader. she lied and said that they were drugged, and tied up ect. first off, non of the girls were ****, she is about 30 years old. all the other girls were in there early 20's. i'll just say this part for now, i have to post it piece, cause he is still there.shooting a video with 30 year old saggy titties should be a crime in any country! it ain't right unless you are over 65 white and staying at the new garden.
The Mind Bender
03-22-13, 12:41
Thanks Boriman.
At this time I started to feel kinda weird. Why are we here doing this, for what? I kinda look back now and remember the true vets. They were kinda standing around almost in the shadows not standing out at all. They were probably thinking you dumb shyts. I realized that the guy I was with that trip, was one of the biggest tricks of Rio and these chicas love to see him steppn off the plane because they knew there bills were going to get paid for the next couple of months."Ballers" don't understand that they're making themselves into targets for scams, theft and robbery.
If some scanal shit goes down they'll be a big, bright neon "$" sign point to them and all the girls who were on their arm will be lining up to pick their bones clean
Thanks Boriman.
"Ballers" don't understand that they're making themselves into targets for scams, theft and robbery.
If some scanal shit goes down they'll be a big, bright neon "$" sign point to them and all the girls who were on their arm will be lining up to pick their bones clean
Throwing money around and acting like a bigshot makes you a target. Best policy is to keep a low profile and don't let anyone think you have money to spare (including the chicas who all have unsavory acquaintances).
Lazy Monger
03-22-13, 13:40
I was lucky, I started in Rio during a great period and the old heads down there encouraged us to keep the pussy spending to a minimum. Before the Ja Rule and Snoop videos, before the ballers. There were a few idiots here and there but not to enough to spoil the game. I was told no more that $60 and only if I felt I really had to have her. Then the ballers came and drove up the prices. Add a weak dollar and the game was over for me. Going from banging 2-3 girls a day, including an all nighter from Help, for $100-$150 to being expected to pay more than that for one girl for an HOUR in span of a year was crazy. Headed to Sosua. First trip, the exchange rate was 55 to 1 and girls were going for 500-1000 pesos. Do the math. $18 for TLN. Probably the hottest chick in town wanted 3000 from my boy and he stood his ground she went home alone. The next day she approached him with a price more to his liking. Now dudes are competing to see who can pay a chick more money. To quote one idiot from Texas," I break the bank for these bitches." Dude was actually proud of the fact that he paid over market.
After that I never went back to Rio with him I always did my own thing. But as you said it is true. I saw as Rio went down the tubes and hated that I missed the glory days. Sosua is going the same route. But what I really hate is I was one of these clowns that contributed to the silliness of trying to ball out in a country where your green is the only pull regardless of who you are. I used my blue passport status to it's full advantage but never again I did some dumb shyt like that. I'm not going to lie this old dude had some stunnas by his side but trust me he was paying out of his ass for it when I was pulling 10's with a wink and a smile.
Throwing money around and acting like a bigshot makes you a target. Best policy is to keep a low profile and don't let anyone think you have money to spare (including the chicas who all have unsavory acquaintances).This wasn't necessarily a reply just to you but to the board.
I don't disagree with you, but they are on vacation. For the guys ripping these guys on vacation, and I don't know any of you guys personally buy you can't tell me there hasn't been times in your life you didn't blow money unnecessarily, that wasn't your typical lifestyle. Or in hindsight stupid.
Perhaps a crazy bachelor party? Going to prom in a limo wearing tuxedos perhaps getting drunk? Ever lie to a girl to get laid?
And lets be fair, we are all doing something "Stupid" in most of the worlds eyes by going with hookers.
I am guessing the majority of people here have picked up a questionable person while driving around a bad part of city late at night for a quick BJ or went on craigslist before.
Tempoecorto
03-22-13, 21:00
This wasn't necessarily a reply just to you but to the board.
I don't disagree with you, but they are on vacation. For the guys ripping these guys on vacation, and I don't know any of you guys personally buy you can't tell me there hasn't been times in your life you didn't blow money unnecessarily, that wasn't your typical lifestyle. Or in hindsight stupid.
Perhaps a crazy bachelor party? Going to prom in a limo wearing tuxedos perhaps getting drunk? Ever lie to a girl to get laid?
And lets be fair, we are all doing something "Stupid" in most of the worlds eyes by going with hookers.
I am guessing the majority of people here have picked up a questionable person while driving around a bad part of city late at night for a quick BJ or went on craigslist before.I learned this stuff in S. E Asia, and my expense account paid for part of it. The rest by business associates in that part of the world, where it is customary to treat for business. But, the rapper style spending would not be feasible for me a) because I would not have that kind of money and 'be) because I, originally from the third world, would have too much of a guilt trip.
Having said that, I agree with the rest of your comments : barring the "lie to get laid" which I never did, I stand guilty as charged.
i was hoping that you had posted this on fb board, anyway the video was not the problem, just a small part. what it boils down to is, is this, the one chick that had her old floppy as tits hanging anyira, was the ring leader. she lied and said that they were drugged, and tied up ect. first off, non of the girls were ****, she is about 30 years old. all the other girls were in there early 20's. i'll just say this part for now, i have to post it piece, cause he is still there.actually, the girl who is dancing by the pool wearing the pink shorts, may not be of age. many chicas and guys who live down there have said to be carefull because she is ****.
Lazy Monger
03-22-13, 23:16
You are right. They are well within their right to roll however they see fit. It is their money and their vacation. Some guys, myself included, get annoyed when guys such as these disrupt the market and ruin it for most of us. That said, we aren't entitled to cheap pussy and dude definitely didn't deserve to be set up. It is a lesson learned, the reality is under no obligation to live up to the fantasy. Your hooker is not a your girlfriend and will probably still bang other dudes no matter how much money you send her. Your girlfriend half your age and weight probably is in it for the money. And pretending to be rich in a poor country will likely attract unscrupulous people looking to separate you and your money. As someone said earlier, do whatever you want as long as you know what you are doing. It may be vacation but it ain't Disney Land, you dealing with real people. Be careful.
This wasn't necessarily a reply just to you but to the board.
I don't disagree with you, but they are on vacation. For the guys ripping these guys on vacation, and I don't know any of you guys personally buy you can't tell me there hasn't been times in your life you didn't blow money unnecessarily, that wasn't your typical lifestyle. Or in hindsight stupid.
Perhaps a crazy bachelor party? Going to prom in a limo wearing tuxedos perhaps getting drunk? Ever lie to a girl to get laid?
And lets be fair, we are all doing something "Stupid" in most of the worlds eyes by going with hookers.
I am guessing the majority of people here have picked up a questionable person while driving around a bad part of city late at night for a quick BJ or went on craigslist before.
I was lucky, I started in Rio during a great period and the old heads down there encouraged us to keep the pussy spending to a minimum. Before the Ja Rule and Snoop videos, before the ballers.You were very lucky. The DR isn't a write off yet by any means but the scene in Sosua is trending in an unfavorable direction in some respects. Enjoy the DR while you can cause it may just be a matter of time before shit like this starts hitting Sosua: http://vimeo.com/57592344 http://vimeo.com/60608741
The Mind Bender
03-23-13, 00:55
The "fake baller" crowd will quickly turn a buyer's market into a seller's. In in a place like DR where all the odds are in your favor the fact that you feel the need to stunt and overpay shows an extreme lack of confidence. Sure you can have all the fun you want just don't ruin the sexual eco system.
SavePros321
03-23-13, 01:40
You were very lucky. The DR isn't a write off yet by any means but the scene in Sosua is trending in an unfavorable direction in some respects. Enjoy the DR while you can cause it may just be a matter of time before shit like this starts hitting Sosua:
http://vimeo.com/57592344
http://vimeo.com/60608741Oh shit. The cops are going to have a field day that weekend. That's a bunch of $50k's (ballers) in one spot, LOL.
And there you go. The mind boggles. Saw that shit in Rio and seeing it in Sosua. Dudes fucking up any leverage they had going to a third world country.The young guys don't get the whole purpose of traveling overseas, which was to get sex for less with better attitudes and options THAT YOU WOULD NEVER FIND ON THE HOME TURF.
These guys come to Sosua to escape American women but they act the same way as they do at home (making it rain etc) so they're basically creating the same environment in another country
It's like littering in paradise LOL.
The girls are going to cop attitudes, hike up the prices and before you know it things will be no different than in the states.
Most of you are old enough to remember (you youngins can google it):
-The Kappa Beach Party (Galveston, TX)
Started out as a College thing until the thugs found out about it. The Kappa's later removed their name and any association with it and it later became known only as "Beach Week".
-Freaknik (Atlanta, GA)
-Urban Beach Week (Miami, Florida)
Co-founded by Uncle Luke. Now it is so fucked up that he's removed any association with it and does not attend.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2011/06/02/uncle-luke-co-founder-of-urban-beach-week-no-longer-attends-event/
You can see the trend.....
ForceSteeler
03-23-13, 06:24
I Never understand why dudes go all out to impress hookers. Do you realize at the end of the day they do not give a fuck and still want there $50 dollars at the end of the day.
Why pop bottles when you still have to pay for the pussy at the end of the day. These Girls are not stupid. If you were a real baller why would you have to fly all the way to.
A 3rd World Country like DR, to pay for pussy? . Why spend $100-$200 poppin bottles when the man next to you that sipping on some Coca Cola is paying the same pussy price as you. LOL.
Hillbilly69
03-23-13, 12:56
I Never understand why dudes go all out to impress hookers. Do you realize at the end of the day they do not give a fuck and still want there $50 dollars at the end of the day.
Why pop bottles when you still have to pay for the pussy at the end of the day. These Girls are not stupid. If you were a real baller why would you have to fly all the way to.
A 3rd World Country like DR, to pay for pussy? . Why spend $100-$200 poppin bottles when the man next to you that sipping on some Coca Cola is paying the same pussy price as you. LOL.I could point out dozens of guys names on several boards that go to the DR live beyond their means charging up credit cards buying girls gifts they can't afford, only to dissapear with an excuse like they are busy with work, overweight and busy working out when in fact they done went bankrupt cause they were living in imagination land where they are rich and intelligent. I guess they will return when their Social Security kicks in at retirement. When they get drunk and comment about killing themselves I usually ask if they need some ammo.
Oh shit. The cops are going to have a field day that weekend. That's a bunch of $50k's (ballers) in one spot, LOL.
The young guys don't get the whole purpose of traveling overseas, which was to get sex for less with better attitudes and options THAT YOU WOULD NEVER FIND ON THE HOME TURF.
Most of you are old enough to remember (you youngins can google it) :I think they behave like that because it gives them a feeling of power and security that they could never achieve back home. They probably don't realize that the women only care about their money and absolutely nothing else. The truth is that they are probably suckers back home either. LOL you can dress a punk up but in the end he is still a punk and there is nothing that will change that.
Tempoecorto
03-23-13, 14:28
I could point out dozens of guys names on several boards that go to the DR live beyond their means charging up credit cards buying girls gifts they can't afford, only to dissapear with an excuse like they are busy with work, overweight and busy working out when in fact they done went bankrupt cause they were living in imagination land where they are rich and intelligent. I guess they will return when their Social Security kicks in at retirement. When they get drunk and comment about killing themselves I usually ask if they need some ammo.I do not know the ethnic make up of people in this forum nor the ages of the participants. But reading this "debate" was interesting because I thought no one wanted to speak of the invisible elephant in the room, ascribing all issues to the young age. I do not want to be a sociologist in this forum, but I certainly belong to Bill Cosby school of thought: that it is easier to be a doctor than be a Michael Jordan or Beyonce. Statistically speaking, but that means hard work at school, starting with learning how to spell properly, in your own language. As long as instant bling is the model, we will be stuck in a time-warp and this pointless debate of Rio and Sosua and then who knows which other pussy paradise.
Why spend $100-$200 poppin bottles. LOL.What do you expect when these are the new Sosua mongers? http://vimeo.com/40755920
actually, the girl who is dancing by the pool wearing the pink shorts, may not be of age. many chicas and guys who live down there have said to be carefull because she is ****.that's crazy because i smach her on my february trip.
AlwaysHorny 2
03-23-13, 16:54
Can you guys find anything else to talk about?
WTF is wrong with YOUR life that you as soo f'and concern with what somebody else is doing? It is an obvious sign of a weak insecure HATER!
So I guess these few so called ballers destroyed CR, Thailand, and now Columbia. In all three places, the appearance of these so call ballers are slim to none. I just returned from Bangkok and Phuket with my lady and I only saw ONE AA. This is senseless. You act like these chicks don't watch tv or read. They are smarter than you think. And the Dominican dudes that pimp them.
This same bs on this board never cease to amaze. It is full with a bunch of useless conversation and very little helpful information. Obviously, those of you who constantly post have little life other than this board and mongering. I pray to God I don't grow old and have such a sad life.
It is obvious that some of these comments have racial undertones. You rednecks can kiss my ass. And I shake my head at my fellow AA's who are brainwashed into buying into this bs.
If somebody is not disrespecting your personal space then why such passionate expressions about what they do? F'and grumps! Get a life!
Manizales911
03-23-13, 17:14
Can you guys find anything else to talk about?
WTF is wrong with YOUR life that you as soo f'and concern with what somebody else is doing? It is an obvious sign of a weak insecure HATER!
So I guess these few so called ballers destroyed CR, Thailand, and now Columbia. In all three places, the appearance of these so call ballers are slim to none. I just returned from Bangkok and Phuket with my lady and I only saw ONE AA. This is senseless. You act like these chicks don't watch tv or read. They are smarter than you think. And the Dominican dudes that pimp them.
This same bs on this board never cease to amaze. It is full with a bunch of useless conversation and very little helpful information. Obviously, those of you who constantly post have little life other than this board and mongering. I pray to God I don't grow old and have such a sad life.
It is obvious that some of these comments have racial undertones. You rednecks can kiss my ass. And I shake my head at my fellow AA's who are brainwashed into buying into this bs.
If somebody is not disrespecting your personal space then why such passionate expressions about what they do? F'and grumps! Get a life!It's far from useless conversation when guys are being thrown in jail and having to pay $50K bribes to get their asses out. I for one would prefer to talk about how to keep one's ass out of jail in the DR than read about how much to pay for sex. I already know the answer to the latter.
SavePros321
03-23-13, 17:32
What do you expect when these are the new Sosua mongers?
http://vimeo.com/40755920
I Never understand why dudes go all out to impress hookers. Do you realize at the end of the day they do not give a fuck and still want there $50 dollars at the end of the day.
Why pop bottles when you still have to pay for the pussy at the end of the day. These Girls are not stupid. If you were a real baller why would you have to fly all the way to.
A 3rd World Country like DR, to pay for pussy? . Why spend $100-$200 poppin bottles when the man next to you that sipping on some Coca Cola is paying the same pussy price as you. LOL.I guess I don't understand the logic either, which is why I am not a strip club type of person. It looks like the video is in a strip club in the US. So you mean to tell me after throwing around all of that money at the strippers, spending all that money on bottles of champagne and liquor; at the end of the night you STILL have to pay these broads $500-1000+ to fuck them?
I guess I don't understand the logic either, which is why I am not a strip club type of person. It looks like the video is in a strip club in the US. So you mean to tell me after throwing around all of that money at the strippers, spending all that money on bottles of champagne and liquor; at the end of the night you STILL have to pay these broads $500-1000+ to fuck them?Exactly, they want their dough if you fuck and, they probably got some of your shit, you overlooked, in their bag on the way out the door.
This is the "Official Scott Tissue" way to roll in the DR LOL. Just kidding. Roll however you want, but these vids are "entertaining."
http://youtu.be/WC2D5BsEVS8
http://youtu.be/fpvKJEpYMK0
http://youtu.be/N13DiC-VVO8
Member #4480
03-23-13, 18:49
Can you guys find anything else to talk about?
WTF is wrong with YOUR life that you as soo f'and concern with what somebody else is doing? It is an obvious sign of a weak insecure HATER!
So I guess these few so called ballers destroyed CR, Thailand, and now Columbia. In all three places, the appearance of these so call ballers are slim to none. I just returned from Bangkok and Phuket with my lady and I only saw ONE AA. This is senseless. You act like these chicks don't watch tv or read. They are smarter than you think. And the Dominican dudes that pimp them.
This same bs on this board never cease to amaze. It is full with a bunch of useless conversation and very little helpful information. Obviously, those of you who constantly post have little life other than this board and mongering. I pray to God I don't grow old and have such a sad life.
It is obvious that some of these comments have racial undertones. You rednecks can kiss my ass. And I shake my head at my fellow AA's who are brainwashed into buying into this bs.
If somebody is not disrespecting your personal space then why such passionate expressions about what they do? F'and grumps! Get a life!Most of us are as equally perplexed as to why people like you think that what droves of wannabe AA hip-hoppers do in less than a square mile doesn't affect other people?
Can you guys find anything else to talk about?
WTF is wrong with YOUR life that you as soo f'and concern with what somebody else is doing? It is an obvious sign of a weak insecure HATER!
It is obvious that some of these comments have racial undertones. You rednecks can kiss my ass. And I shake my head at my fellow AA's who are brainwashed into buying into this bs.
If somebody is not disrespecting your personal space then why such passionate expressions about what they do? F'and grumps! Get a life!Its not Hate, its called "Giving a damn!" When you get to be a certain age and you see young men doing things that potentially could put their asses in jail or the cemetary, you feel a responsibility to warn them. I know for a fact that a number of long time mongers tried to warn these guys "Watch yourself! Your going to get into alot of trouble with that camera! You guys are causing too much of a scene with the all the bottles and making it rain! Don't put that shit on the internet, are you crazy? Play it low key down here, you are not in the states anymore!".
These young men probably had the same attitude that you just displayed!"These guys are hating on me me! My swag is untouchable! I'm a boss! These people love me down here! YOLO!" I gurantee that young man who spent 3 days in jail and lost all of his money and the money of his family is probably thinking "Damn! Why didn't I listen? They tried to tell my dumb ass!"
So its not that older AAs are brainwashed. Its a feeling of wanting to save you young guys from yourselves. One day, if you make it to our age, you will understand.
Lazy Monger
03-23-13, 19:56
Well, I guess you told us.
Can you guys find anything else to talk about?
WTF is wrong with YOUR life that you as soo f'and concern with what somebody else is doing? It is an obvious sign of a weak insecure HATER!
So I guess these few so called ballers destroyed CR, Thailand, and now Columbia. In all three places, the appearance of these so call ballers are slim to none. I just returned from Bangkok and Phuket with my lady and I only saw ONE AA. This is senseless. You act like these chicks don't watch tv or read. They are smarter than you think. And the Dominican dudes that pimp them.
This same bs on this board never cease to amaze. It is full with a bunch of useless conversation and very little helpful information. Obviously, those of you who constantly post have little life other than this board and mongering. I pray to God I don't grow old and have such a sad life.
It is obvious that some of these comments have racial undertones. You rednecks can kiss my ass. And I shake my head at my fellow AA's who are brainwashed into buying into this bs.
If somebody is not disrespecting your personal space then why such passionate expressions about what they do? F'and grumps! Get a life!
Lazy Monger
03-23-13, 20:11
A couple years ago, a few of us "haters" help this young brother out of a serious jam that would have seen him detained and out about $4000 if we hadn't intervened. Sure, I can ride around in circles in a rented SUV and throw money at hookers in a rented Villa. To what end? Be set up as a mark? I have a blast walking around town and banging for cheap in my hotel room. Ain't damn thing in Sosua worth getting hemmed up for 50 grand.
Its not Hate, its called "Giving a damn!" When you get to be a certain age and you see young men doing things that potentially could put their asses in jail or the cemetary, you feel a responsibility to warn them. I know for a fact that a number of long time mongers tried to warn these guys "Watch yourself! Your going to get into alot of trouble with that camera! You guys are causing too much of a scene with the all the bottles and making it rain! Don't put that shit on the internet, are you crazy? Play it low key down here, you are not in the states anymore!".
These young men probably had the same attitude that you just displayed!"These guys are hating on me me! My swag is untouchable! I'm a boss! These people love me down here! YOLO!" I gurantee that young man who spent 3 days in jail and lost all of his money and the money of his family is probably thinking "Damn! Why didn't I listen? They tried to tell my dumb ass!"
So its not that older AAs are brainwashed. Its a feeling of wanting to save you young guys from yourselves. One day, if you make it to our age, you will understand.
I just got back from Sosua last week. It was my first trip to Sosua and it def. Everything says it is. First thing I learned from my first trip is that 7 days is wayyyy too much for Sosua. I don't know how some people are there for 10-14 days but for me after 5 days I was just shooting blanks and magic of Sosua started to wear off. I mean if there were other things to do in Sosua other then just going to the beach and fucking then I can understand. 5 day vacation is all you need for this place.I read your report. It was nicely done. You found like I did, that you can find what you want on the strip rather than at Passions. However, you and I differ in regards to our tolerance for vacationing in Sosua. Allow me to share with you what works for me, and why I have no problem with a 2 week stint in Sosua, with the potential to stay longer if it werent for work commitments. Along with fucking, I enjoy meeting other guys, to talk and socialize with. I always encounter somebody who shares a tip or offers information that becomes useful. For instance, I got a tip from a guy about a restaurant near the top of a mountain, on the way to Moca. Rented a car and several of us set out to find this restaurant. It was a nice getaway. Later that evening we all went to Caberete, to a restaurant on the beach that was starting their happy hour. It was a beautiful night. We were singing, eating and drinking. Other times I've went to PP for the cable car rides.
I've set out for the day to check out real estate. I've driven to other towns, with or without chicas. I drove to Las Terrenas & Samana. I've driven to SD. Guys may know chicas that live in certain barrios. They may go to see them, or have them come to see them. Two Oct ago, me and my wing would go to the ball field in Sosua often to watch them play. We started talking to a group of kids after they finished playing. Found out they could use more equipment. We got the coaches contact info and I hooked up with a friend (a Dominican) in the states that helped me ship a bunch of used base ball equipment that me and my wing was able to get hold of. My point is. Many guys who stay for long periods of time, may have a game plan. Or they are flexible enough to find things to do other than wearing themselves out fucking. And dig, I don't even go out late at night in Sosua. I don't have to. I either have somebody I like a few days in a row, or I make my choices for company relatively early in the evening. Often, I do not even need to go to the strip, I usually find talent just sitting at the bar watching chicas walk by. Or off my balcony at the hotel. Or at the playa, or in the super mercado while shopping. And get this. I may even skip fucking a night or two, because I'm just content being on vacation with no worries. Those nights of being solo saves money and leche for another day / night. Maybe it's just me, but I enjoy just flirting with chicas oft times just for the thrill and the illusion of hunting. It's egolicious (I made that up) to me, to have fine ass young chicas pretending to be interested in you because they find you so irresistable. LOL Who needs to fuck all the time? 60% of what I'm looking for is getting my ego stroked, not always my manhood. Shit, I can stroke that at home my self.
Can you guys find anything else to talk about?
WTF is wrong with YOUR life that you as soo f'and concern with what somebody else is doing? It is an obvious sign of a weak insecure HATER!
So I guess these few so called ballers destroyed CR, Thailand, and now Columbia. In all three places, the appearance of these so call ballers are slim to none. I just returned from Bangkok and Phuket with my lady and I only saw ONE AA. This is senseless. You act like these chicks don't watch tv or read. They are smarter than you think. And the Dominican dudes that pimp them.
This same bs on this board never cease to amaze. It is full with a bunch of useless conversation and very little helpful information. Obviously, those of you who constantly post have little life other than this board and mongering. I pray to God I don't grow old and have such a sad life.
It is obvious that some of these comments have racial undertones. You rednecks can kiss my ass. And I shake my head at my fellow AA's who are brainwashed into buying into this bs.
If somebody is not disrespecting your personal space then why such passionate expressions about what they do? F'and grumps! Get a life!Technically speaking AH2, one could say you are doing the same thing you are accusing others of? Check out your statement : "WTF is wrong with YOUR life that you as soo f'and concern with what somebody else is doing? It is an obvious sign of a weak insecure HATER!" Could your concern or complaint about what other mongers talk about meet the standard intended by your statement? Now I'll bet money, you wouldn't consider yourself insecure or a hater for the concern you are demonstrating here in regards to what other mongers are talking about. Personally, I think what one gains or learns from this forum is a personal thing. And I don't think any of us is qualified to tell somebody else what is useful or useless for somebody else. Everybody is not going to like every aspect of the conversation at hand, and we are free to voice our concern on the parts we disagree with, but any info that leads to the reinforcement that we all have to vacation with caution, I consider that useful conversation. What I don't find useful, I can disregard without having to broadcast it to the board.
Technically speaking AH2, one could say you are doing the same thing you are accusing others of? Check out your statement : "WTF is wrong with YOUR life that you as soo f'and concern with what somebody else is doing? It is an obvious sign of a weak insecure HATER!" Could your concern or complaint about what other mongers talk about meet the standard intended by your statement? Now I'll bet money, you wouldn't consider yourself insecure or a hater for the concern you are demonstrating here in regards to what other mongers are talking about. Personally, I think what one gains or learns from this forum is a personal thing. And I don't think any of us is qualified to tell somebody else what is useful or useless for somebody else. Everybody is not going to like every aspect of the conversation at hand, and we are free to voice our concern on the parts we disagree with, but any info that leads to the reinforcement that we all have to vacation with caution, I consider that useful conversation. What I don't find useful, I can disregard without having to broadcast it to the board.Nice analytical breakdown using this guys logic against him.
Let's try and stick to the 'important' subjects at hand now instead of getting into a pointless and distracting flame war.
DeepMmpactt
03-23-13, 23:21
Its not Hate, its called "Giving a damn!" When you get to be a certain age and you see young men doing things that potentially could put their asses in jail or the cemetary, you feel a responsibility to warn them. I know for a fact that a number of long time mongers tried to warn these guys "Watch yourself! Your going to get into alot of trouble with that camera! You guys are causing too much of a scene with the all the bottles and making it rain! Don't put that shit on the internet, are you crazy? Play it low key down here, you are not in the states anymore!".
These young men probably had the same attitude that you just displayed!"These guys are hating on me me! My swag is untouchable! I'm a boss! These people love me down here! YOLO!" I gurantee that young man who spent 3 days in jail and lost all of his money and the money of his family is probably thinking "Damn! Why didn't I listen? They tried to tell my dumb ass!"
So its not that older AAs are brainwashed. Its a feeling of wanting to save you young guys from yourselves. One day, if you make it to our age, you will understand.Wow I appreciate the eloquent. And educated way you answered Always Horny 2 "rant" or "flame" I guess if we would've stopped our discussions and answered his "Where do I find a. Villa / condo? And Nevermind I didn't Rtff" but at least I write trip reports" He wouldn't have had. A problem with. Any of us "Old People". I guess I'm one of those fellow AA the almighty Alwayshorny2 is shaking his head at, and Rednecl Hillbilly 69 Can kiss his a$$" (joking) okay Alwayshorny Hispaniola is. A great place. To rent. Now can us "haters" get back to drinking our "hater-aid"? That deep down thirst quenching hate" Lmao! I appreciate this post thankyou for putting it so thought nicely.
Its not Hate, its called "Giving a damn!" When you get to be a certain age and you see young men doing things that potentially could put their asses in jail or the cemetary, you feel a responsibility to warn them. I know for a fact that a number of long time mongers tried to warn these guys "Watch yourself! Your going to get into alot of trouble with that camera! You guys are causing too much of a scene with the all the bottles and making it rain! Don't put that shit on the internet, are you crazy? Play it low key down here, you are not in the states anymore!".
These young men probably had the same attitude that you just displayed!"These guys are hating on me me! My swag is untouchable! I'm a boss! These people love me down here! YOLO!" I gurantee that young man who spent 3 days in jail and lost all of his money and the money of his family is probably thinking "Damn! Why didn't I listen? They tried to tell my dumb ass!"
So its not that older AAs are brainwashed. Its a feeling of wanting to save you young guys from yourselves. One day, if you make it to our age, you will understand.This whole discussion has many aspects here. It seems that the main argument some may have is that what these guys do is their own damn business and it's their vacation. What they do shouldn't hurt anybody, and nobody should be judging them for how they choose to handle their vacation. If this was only about the freedom of self expression and choice that argument would be very legit. However this is much more than that. How they choose to conduct themselves publicly or privately could potentially spin off or reinforce the practice of more young guys (or anybody) being harassed or setup for extortion.
More individuals with unscrupulous intentions will be willing to try out their schemes or scams to extort money. Many guys who used to monger in Sosua back in the day were accustomed to the GFE and TLN experiences. Now we got more individuals in Sosua just out for the hustle. Arent willing to work. Our shoe shine boy in the video said. Everyday he's hustling. He aint just talking about shining shoes. He has grown up a little more to know which mongers have a weak spot for a kid on the hustle. Who will give him money even if he hasnt earned it? And how many other kids that find out about his good fortune will follow suit, looking for cats to do the same for them? Meanwhile these boys are not starving or poor. Many regular mongers are guilty of reinforcing these expectations. In these boys and these chicas. Another aspect is : It's about giving a damn about how a group of young people's behavior may be misunderstood as a black thing, rather than individuals (who just happen to be black) behaving childish. So this is much more than these young men's right to freedom of expression and spending their money on their vacation the way they choose. It's unsettling to find out that these guys may have had warnings about some of the things they were doing, and those warnings were ignored. In the end, they will be icons for many, of how NOT to conduct yourself when around people you can't trust.
Manizales911
03-24-13, 01:56
This is the "Official Scott Tissue" way to roll in the DR LOL. Just kidding. Roll however you want, but these vids are "entertaining."
http://youtu.be/WC2D5BsEVS8
http://youtu.be/fpvKJEpYMK0
http://youtu.be/N13DiC-VVO8I didn't find the first video entertaining at all, I found it to be disgusting. Driving down the street disrespecting the locals like that, no wonder one of these mofo's ended up in jail.
I didn't find the first video entertaining at all, I found it to be disgusting. Driving down the street disrespecting the locals like that, no wonder one of these mofo's ended up in jail.Notice I put quotation marks around "entertaining." A buddy of mine who is AA and has been traveling to the DR for over a decade had the same reaction as yours.
I didn't find the first video entertaining at all, I found it to be disgusting. Driving down the street disrespecting the locals like that, no wonder one of these mofo's ended up in jail.I agree that first video I found so disrespectful to those going along doing every day business.
It happened in Rio when certain mongers started overstepping the boundaries.Exactly the reason Kenny Graham got out of jail in Rio and hangs out in Sosua now. I got to laugh when I see a shoe shine boy in Sosua wearing gear from his tournament in NYC http://youtu.be/eeyg3rpH6q8
Exactly the reason Kenny Graham got out of jail in Rio and hangs out in Sosua now. I got to laugh when I see a shoe shine boy in Sosua wearing gear from his tournament in NYC.
http://youtu.be/eeyg3rpH6q8Trust me when I say that Kenny definitely helped to ruin Copa! He started bringing all those young and dumb ass kids that played in his basket ball league to Rio. All of sudden Copa was flooded with 20 year olds walking around with their pants sagging off their asses! Bringing boom boxes to the beach. They were walking around filming girls like it was Memorial day weekend in Miami, regular girls, not hoes! Fucking girls and then not paying them! Getting into arguements and slapping the females! All types of ghetto shit!
The first time we saw him up in Classicos, both of my partners and I said "Damn! This motherfucker is down here now?" Sure enough 4 days later he sits next to us on the beach. Next thing you know he is bragging about how he is going to start throwing parties in Sosua for all these guys he is going to bring down. When we got back to the car, we all just started shaking our heads and saying "He has got to be the dumbest asshole that has ever been granted a fucking passport!". He spent time in a prison for doing the same shit in Rio and he hasntr learned a damn thing from the experience.
Unfortunately, Sosua has already started the transition into becoming thug central, so all Kenny can do is add more gasoline to the fire.
The Mind Bender
03-24-13, 06:38
Only a hit dog hollers.
AlwaysHorny 2 wrote an angry, emotional rant because he most likely has the same mentality as the dudes who got scammed.
This is why you can't pull aside the "make it rain" crowd and give them some game because they'll marginalize your wisdom as being a "hater"
ForceSteeler
03-24-13, 06:49
I guess I don't understand the logic either, which is why I am not a strip club type of person. It looks like the video is in a strip club in the US. So you mean to tell me after throwing around all of that money at the strippers, spending all that money on bottles of champagne and liquor; at the end of the night you STILL have to pay these broads $500-1000+ to fuck them?Yeah I never understand it? At the end of the day these are hookers you are dealing with. Hookers at the end of the day look at you as a customer (Mark). I see so many guys come down with Gucci and YSL and spending money on bottles and are mad when they take them back to the rented villa that they still want there 2500 pesos. LOL.
ForceSteeler
03-24-13, 07:00
Only a hit dog hollers.
AlwaysHorny 2 wrote an angry, emotional rant because he most likely has the same mentality as the dudes who got scammed.
This is why you can't pull aside the "make it rain" crowd and give them some game because they'll marginalize your wisdom as being a "hater"It's not about hate it's about living in reality. Most of these guys work 9-5 regular jobs. And again if your a baller or a so called millionaire why would you need to fly shithole like Sosua to buy pussy.
Real Rich Succesful People don't need to flash money. They know they have money and don't need to impress broke dirt bags that are looking to rob and scam you. The brokest People are the most flashiest loudest person in the room.
That's the difference between Gucci Mane and Bill Gates.
Mr Enternational
03-24-13, 13:29
Exactly the reason Kenny Graham got out of jail in Rio and hangs out in Sosua now. I got to laugh when I see a shoe shine boy in Sosua wearing gear from his tournament in NYC.
http://youtu.be/eeyg3rpH6q8LOL. Speak of the devil. My wingman just asked me yesterday if I ever see him in Sosua. I saw him once at the Meringue Bar and that was over a year ago. He reminds me a lot of a buddy of mine who lives in Pattaya. Every night he hangs outside in front of the club, then goes inside and hangs in the back of the club, then later on goes to hang at another club. You never see him with a drink or anything, he just stands there. And every night without fail. I just don't get it. Do people who live in Orlando go to Disney World and do the same thing everyday? To me you have to have a life outside of that shit.
I once asked a great old school mambo dancer (1960s) why there wasn't much footage of him dancing in the clubs, and he explained to me that in his time there was so much going on at the clubs that it was taboo to walk around with a camera because you might catch someone in the background doing something they weren't supposed to be doing (cheating on wife, drugs, drinking, etc.).
Today, it's probably the opposite. Everyone thinks they need to capture everything and put it on youtube or twitter. Once you put it out there, it can be used against you as those kids in Ohio recently found out. Powerful information can get in the hands of the wrong people more easily now than ever.
At some point, someone will probably be smart enough to describe and quantify the effect of this exposure on the town of Sosua and those that have visited.
Here are some more "entertaining" vids.
http://youtu.be/-U2fy0p91y0
http://youtu.be/rEA6c8pTCHo
http://youtu.be/5BK2Y1A4OqY
http://youtu.be/Elq2uEv9H6M
Mr Enternational
03-24-13, 13:39
I once asked a great old school mambo dancerIt's funny as you wrote that a commercial came on TV here in Santo Domingo advertising Mambo 36. It said it is tadalafil (lab name for Cialis). Does anyone have the scoop on this brand? Nevermind. I did a search and saw that it has been discussed many times.
Unfortunately, Sosua has already started the transition into becoming thug central, so all Kenny can do is add more gasoline to the fire.I think you're right. Although, the heavy investment by Canadians and Germans, real estate developers, and those that want to Cabaretefy Sosua are trying to nullify that transition.
well after watching a few of the videos posted i can only say one or two things. first is that the collective iq of that group of ballers is probably less than 100 and more importantly. well, it seems like they will keep coming to sosua and in some way this can be a blessing, since they will attract all the unwanted attention, being in the spotlight and the monger who keeps a low profile might go unnoticed and unrep001hed. the prices will probably go up but that is the story of the world everywhere.
SavePros321
03-24-13, 15:47
well, it seems like they will keep coming to sosua and in some way this can be a blessing, since they will attract all the unwanted attention, being in the spotlight and the monger who keeps a low profile might go unnoticed and unrep001hed. the prices will probably go up but that is the story of the world everywhere.and lets face it, those guys don't come here to read the forum anyway. like mind bender said, any advice you try to give them will be seen as "hating." you might as well be talking to a brick wall because it is all going to fall on deaf ears.
the cops already know who to shake down and harass because these guys willingly paint targets on themselves by being so flamboyant. the chicas will be all too willing to assist with helping to scam them. even if she only gets 5000 pesos or even $1000 usd out of the deal, that's a few less johns she has to sleep with. and, as mr. $50,000 has shown us from his video, the bigger the baller (display), the grander the scam pay-off.
meanwhile, i'll continue to show up looking like an average joe shmoe and slip in and out of the place unnoticed.
signed, sp321: the quintessential unassuming monger
I think you're right. Although, the heavy investment by Canadians and Germans, real estate developers, and those that want to Cabaretefy Sosua are trying to nullify that transition.The way Sosua is trending these days it will implode, there will be more and more of these extortion type incidents until the weekend warriors hear about it and quit coming. The regulat mongers like you and I have already moved on and the rich retirees with their fancy gated communities and their condos and a clean town. Maybe Ilana did have a grand plan when she teamed up with the gangster, Willy.
SavePros321
03-24-13, 18:20
The way Sosua is trending these days it will implode, there will be more and more of these extortion type incidents until the weekend warriors hear about it and quit coming. The regulat mongers like you and I have already moved on and the rich retirees with their fancy gated communities and their condos and a clean town. Maybe Ilana did have a grand plan when she teamed up with the gangster, Willy.It's almost safe to say that anyone going there now is willfully walking into a trap, with the chicas being used as the bait to lure you in. The bars, discos, and hotels are nothing more than elaborately designed mouse traps, lol!
I can imagine that much more of this stuff is going than actually being reported. As long as there continues to be a heavy police presence there (they were not there in number like they are now pre-2011), expect more of the same.
It's almost safe to say that anyone going there now is willfully walking into a trap, with the chicas being used as the bait to lure you in. The bars, discos, and hotels are just elaborately designed mouse traps, LOL!
I can imagine that much of this stuff is going than actually being reported. As long as there continues to be a heavy police presence there (they were not there in number like they are now pre-2011) , expect more of the same.I have been going to Sosua for 8 years and spending at least 3 months there every year. But after my last two visits in September and December I have decided to move on and just got back friom a great six week trip to Thailand. A number of my long term friends have also moved on or are seriously considering it. Sosua has change, as places do, but to me the opening of D'Latins was the beginning of the end for me.
ManOfMystery
03-24-13, 19:32
Hey guys,
I'm booked for Sosua for the first time in mid-May. I was pretty psyched about it but all the doom and gloom here seems to have me a little concerned now. Is it still a worthwhile place to visit? I've done a lot of traveling so I'm not a complete noob, but the extent of my mongering has been the termas in Rio. In Sosua I was planning on lots of days on the beach and visits to Passions or CMP. Maybe some chicas from the clubs at night. From what I've been reading of late though, it seems staying away from these freelance chicas and sticking to the establishments would be my best and safest bet. I understand these chicas are all about the money, I don't have any delusions otherwise, but are they worth the risk?
Member #4480
03-24-13, 19:54
I have been going to Sosua for 8 years and spending at least 3 months there every year. But after my last two visits in September and December I have decided to move on and just got back friom a great six week trip to Thailand. A number of my long term friends have also moved on or are seriously considering it. Sosua has change, as places do, but to me the opening of D'Latins was the beginning of the end for me.The beginning of the end for many was the transition of Passion's from a Caribbean bar / suck shack into a full-fledged NYC / ATL style strip club. Too much easy money for Peter not to spread his legs too.
I have decided to move on and just got back friom a great six week trip to Thailand.Great place and that is a good amount of time to spend there.
the opening of D'Latins was the beginning of the end for me.Certainly seems like we have more people in less space at times. As others have pointed out in the past, the internet, demise of mongering in Brazil, and cheap direct flights to POP / STI from NYC have all contributed to the current state of Sosua. That being said, a person with an open mind and some common sense and respect can still have a great vacation there.
ThunderDownUnder
03-24-13, 23:06
Hey guys,
I'm booked for Sosua for the first time in mid-May. I was pretty psyched about it but all the doom and gloom here seems to have me a little concerned now. Is it still a worthwhile place to visit? I've done a lot of traveling so I'm not a complete noob, but the extent of my mongering has been the termas in Rio. In Sosua I was planning on lots of days on the beach and visits to Passions or CMP. Maybe some chicas from the clubs at night. From what I've been reading of late though, it seems staying away from these freelance chicas and sticking to the establishments would be my best and safest bet. I understand these chicas are all about the money, I don't have any delusions otherwise, but are they worth the risk?Bump.
Same here, traveling on a first time trip to Sosua in 2 weeks.
After reading the forum the last few weeks particularly this post, I'm having second thoughts. Having enjoyed Colombia, Peru, CR, PI, and Thailand am I wasting my time in Sosua? Does the GFE still exist or is it just a city with thugs, thieves, and mechanical LON all trying to make a fast buck?
I have a non refundable $1000 ticket but sounds like it may be more lucrative to cut my loses now rather than have a miserable vacation with the potential of extortion and jail time!
Thoughts and feedback greatly appreciated!
The Mind Bender
03-25-13, 00:07
It's almost safe to say that anyone going there now is willfully walking into a trap, with the chicas being used as the bait to lure you in. The bars, discos, and hotels are nothing more than elaborately designed mouse traps, lol!I think that may be a bit of an exaggeration LOL
SavePros321
03-25-13, 00:42
I think that may be a bit of an exaggeration LOLI seriously hope so, lol. But at this point I'm not willing to find out if I am wrong or not. Just way too many other places to visit that doesn't require that you have a local bondsman on retainer.
Charles Pooter
03-25-13, 01:41
Hey guys,
I'm booked for Sosua for the first time in mid-May. I was pretty psyched about it but all the doom and gloom here seems to have me a little concerned now. Is it still a worthwhile place to visit? I've done a lot of traveling so I'm not a complete noob, but the extent of my mongering has been the termas in Rio. In Sosua I was planning on lots of days on the beach and visits to Passions or CMP. Maybe some chicas from the clubs at night. From what I've been reading of late though, it seems staying away from these freelance chicas and sticking to the establishments would be my best and safest bet. I understand these chicas are all about the money, I don't have any delusions otherwise, but are they worth the risk?Sosua remains the best value for money for anyone from the eastern part of the US or from Canada. I have yet to read of someone getting into trouble through behaving sensibly, by which I mean:
- not drinking too much.
- steering well clear of drugs and weed and those who use them.
- not befriending the local scumbags (hardcore putas, pimps, tigueres, certain bar and club owners and staff, police).
- neither giving putas expectation of ongoing income nor an excuse for pretending they had expectation of ongoing income.
- not carrying or displaying much cash or articles that look valuable (even if actually ripoffs).
- dressing conservatively, neither scruffily nor too fashionably. Shorts by day (if you must!) but long pants at night.
- respecting the locals (even when they don't deserve it) ,
- if unfortunate enough to get involved in a dispute, walk away and put it down to experience. It's a holiday, not a pissing up the wall contest.
- if your first trip, spend some time (at least on your first day or two) talking to ex-pat mongers. Rocky's Bar for late breakfast and the adjacent bars of Ruby and Siempre Sol on the beach in the afternoons are good places to meet them.
- don't rent a car or bike on your first trip. Not necessary in Sosua and brings its own complications and possible pitfalls.
- don't tell any locals when you are arriving, when you are leaving, or where you are staying. In general don't tell lies, but lie about these facts if backed into a corner. If you have to say anything, always say you are leaving two weeks after the actual date.
You don't say how long you are staying or whether you have any Spanish. If for more than a week and you speak a bit, break things up by visiting nearby towns (Cabarete, Puerto Plata, Montellano, Rio San Juan), by public transport in the daylight (it's dirt cheap). If for two weeks you might want to spend a day and night in Santiago. If only there for a few days or without Spanish defer those ideas for later trips. You won't get bored in Sosua in less than a week on your first trip.
The beach is pretty safe in daylight (not recommended after dusk). You are unlikely to get into trouble there, but better if you have a trusted wingman to mind your stuff when bathing.
Use Passions and CMP if you must. You will pay more and miss a lot of the fun of being in Sosua and finding your own diamonds in the rough. But if you are of an unconfident disposition why not stay at Blackbeards or Field of Dreams where it is very hard to go wrong?
You are right to always remember the chicas are all about the money, but it doesn't have to be a lot of money. My friend just spent the night with two attractive and sweet-natured 19-year-olds for 1600 pesos total the pair (US$40) plus breakfast and moto fare. But you won't find girls like that in D'Latino, Rumba or Disco Clasico.
Don't let the gloom-and-doom merchants put you off. Some remember Sosua in better days, while others have got burned and bitter by acting foolishly and blame the town instead of themselves. If you follow the above advice you can have a great trip at a very affordable price. Enjoy it. Subsequent trips you will know more, see more, and spend less, but the first trip has a magic you will never forget.
Hey guys,
I'm booked for Sosua for the first time in mid-May. I was pretty psyched about it but all the doom and gloom here seems to have me a little concerned now. Is it still a worthwhile place to visit? I've done a lot of traveling so I'm not a complete noob, but the extent of my mongering has been the termas in Rio. In Sosua I was planning on lots of days on the beach and visits to Passions or CMP. Maybe some chicas from the clubs at night. From what I've been reading of late though, it seems staying away from these freelance chicas and sticking to the establishments would be my best and safest bet. I understand these chicas are all about the money, I don't have any delusions otherwise, but are they worth the risk?Sosua is still a very worthwhile place to visit. Certainly no more dangerous than Rio. Just exercise common sense and you should be OK. Word of warning though . If you've only mongered in Rio, most other places may be a bit of a letdown. I went to Rio 2-3 times a year from 2000 to 2009. I then decided, for various reasons, to concentrate on other places. I had to adjust my expectations quite a bit at first, but I'm happy now going mostly to Colombia and the DR. I will be in both places next month, and I'm very much looking forward to it.
Charles. That was a fantastic summary for a first-time visitor (and even for a veteran). I can't argue with one single thing you wrote.
Charles Pooter
03-25-13, 03:15
Charles. That was a fantastic summary for a first-time visitor (and even for a veteran). I can't argue with one single thing you wrote.Thanks, but I am sure someone will oblige before long.
Incidentally, it might sound as if I am a shill for Sosua. The truth is very different. In four years of visiting the North Coast and now three years of living here I have never spent a single night in Sosua, and each of those years I go there less and less frequently. My rare visits to Sosua these days are to meet male friends and never to find girls. I have always preferred Puerto Plata as I avoid hard-core working girls. For the past three years I have only gone with semi-pros, and Puerto Plata is a much bigger and more discreet city to find those.
But for a newbie who is too adventurous to stay at Blackbeards or Field of Dreams then Sosua is the best place to start, if he follows my advice and that of other mongers more knowledgable than me.
Hey guys,
I'm booked for Sosua for the first time in mid-May. I was pretty psyched about it but all the doom and gloom here seems to have me a little concerned now. Is it still a worthwhile place to visit? I've done a lot of traveling so I'm not a complete noob, but the extent of my mongering has been the termas in Rio. In Sosua I was planning on lots of days on the beach and visits to Passions or CMP. Maybe some chicas from the clubs at night. From what I've been reading of late though, it seems staying away from these freelance chicas and sticking to the establishments would be my best and safest bet. I understand these chicas are all about the money, I don't have any delusions otherwise, but are they worth the risk?Check this vid as a reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Tu0jtpUg0
Sosua is the safest and easiest place to monger in the Western world. The freelancers are great and cheap. I could get girls for 1200 pesos all day long. All of my free lancers were very good performers. Just go you will have a great time. Attractive sexy women throwing them selves at you. Sosua is to easy sometimes. I know why some guys stop going. I enjoyed it but I could out grow it.
Check this vid as a reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Tu0jtpUg0
Riky Rapido
03-25-13, 12:08
Thanks, but I am sure someone will oblige before long.
Incidentally, it might sound as if I am a shill for Sosua. The truth is very different. In four years of visiting the North Coast and now three years of living here I have never spent a single night in Sosua, and each of those years I go there less and less frequently. My rare visits to Sosua these days are to meet male friends and never to find girls. I have always preferred Puerto Plata as I avoid hard-core working girls. For the past three years I have only gone with semi-pros, and Puerto Plata is a much bigger and more discreet city to find those.
But for a newbie who is too adventurous to stay at Blackbeards or Field of Dreams then Sosua is the best place to start, if he follows my advice and that of other mongers more knowledgable than me.And I too have been here 4 years and agree with you. Puerto Plata is a gem for the knowledgeable monger.
Bump.
Same here, traveling on a first time trip to Sosua in 2 weeks.
After reading the forum the last few weeks particularly this post, I'm having second thoughts. Having enjoyed Colombia, Peru, CR, PI, and Thailand am I wasting my time in Sosua? Does the GFE still exist or is it just a city with thugs, thieves, and mechanical LON all trying to make a fast buck?
I have a non refundable $1000 ticket but sounds like it may be more lucrative to cut my loses now rather than have a miserable vacation with the potential of extortion and jail time!
Thoughts and feedback greatly appreciated!Your concerns about going to Sosua are understandable. But check this out. You and others who may be skeptic, are only reacting to rhetoric and banter from many of us just passing time on the boards. What you read that concerns you is not the sum total of Sosua and what it has to offer. The negative chatter probably only represents 20% and the other 80% is dudes having a great time with no problems. And many that have problems usually it's because they brought it on themselves. Making mistakes or not thinking clearly of what they are doing. And yes, a small % are guys who had trouble through no fault of their own. But thats a small minority IMO.
Most guys who are considered veterans or who visit Sosua on the regular, don't even post every trip report highlighting their trip. Know why? Because there is nothing exactly new to report. We have a good time every visit and thats it. There is nobody here to impress or inform. Any newbie can read past reports from us, many have the same theme. The reports that are interesting to most of us, are the ones from new guys. When regulars talk about our trips it's probably back home where were from. Most of us who go to Sosua regularly have favoritas we see when we get there. Or since many of us have DR phones, call up girls we know. Im saying this so you'll realize that most guys are having a blast in Sosua every time they go, they just arent bothering to post it here. So there are more positive experiences than the doom and gloom reflected in recent posts. But you are not going to know that if guys are not detailing every trip they had in the past few months
For many, guys meet tons of chicas just walking around. Because there are tons of them all over the place. Many new to the scene every day and every week, and therefore one may get that GFE or at least she may not be hardcore. If a guy has mongered elsewhere he will have established a sort of radar when it comes to spotting potential trouble with a chica. So he should be confident enough in his abilities to vet out potential problems, and be willing to leave a chica alone and look for another. A guy can't do much about screening a chicas performance without a test drive. That is something he will have to find out for himself.
But as long as a guy sticks to the basics of being smart (keeping a low profile, consider negotiating upfront price & terms when in doubt, avoid getting drunk, secure your stuff, be careful what info you share with these chicas, don't be in a rush to get her back to your spot without paying attention to any signs or vibes) he could have a blast in Sosua. Once you go, you'll find that all of this negativity or cause for concern from some of us will have nothing to do with your trip. In fact, you'll probably wonder how you got such a negative impression of Sosua from a few posts, when your own experiences will be nothing like what you read. Of course this should go without saying, YMMD (Your mileage may differ).
Your concerns about going to Sosua are understandable. But check this out. You and others who may be skeptic, are only reacting to rhetoric and banter from many of us just passing time on the boards. What you read that concerns you is not the sum total of Sosua and what it has to offer. The negative chatter probably only represents 20% and the other 80% is dudes having a great time with no problems. And many that have problems usually it's because they brought it on themselves. Making mistakes or not thinking clearly of what they are doing. And yes, a small % are guys who had trouble through no fault of their own. But thats a small minority IMO.Absolutely agree with this. If Sosua and the DR in general were as dangerous as some of these posts suggest, the tourism to the DR would be on the decline and that is the last thing they want. It is true that as a monger you expose yourself to more risk than say a family or a couple there just for a vacation, but as Wrx2005 says, the majority of people who do get into trouble do so by doing stupid things. You can get into just as much trouble in any part of the world when doing stupid things. If you get involved with the wrong crowd in a American or Canadian city you can still wind up in jail. True that the jail conditions differ, but on the other hand at least in the DR you can buy your way out. Back home you get a criminal record and probably do jail time.
The odds of something bad happening to you if you behave correctly (like many of these posts suggest. I. E. Don't draw attention to yourself) are small and your chances of winding up in jail are not much different that a regular vacationer. If regular people were getting thrown in the slammer all the time, there would me stink about it in other places besides the ISG.
You can't live in fear when traveling in a foreign country. Whether a monger or not. Follow a few simple rules of conduct, respect the locals and don't be an idiot. Don't get too drunk and definitely stay away from drugs or any characters that your instinct tells you they are trouble.
I spent my youth living on the streets in canada and the mechanics and characters of the street people there are not much different than the scammers in the DR. And I am willing to bet anywhere else.
If something looks too good to be true, it probably is.
1. Keep a low profile.
2. Do not flash money, jewellery.
3. Do not get into fights with locals however much you are insulted and you think you are right.
4. Try to be nice to girls irrespective what they do to earn a living.
5. Do not get into nitpicking about small change irrespective of what the agreed price was.
6. Absolutely do not get drunk where you loose all sense of your surroundings and reasoning.
7. Lock all your valuables including foreign currency and carry only local currency to last you for the day.
8. Finally be aware of your surroundings all the time irrespective of whether you are in a bar, walking on the street or in the room with a girl.
The Mind Bender
03-25-13, 15:40
Sosua remains the best value for money for anyone from the eastern part of the US or from Canada. I have yet to read of someone getting into trouble through behaving sensibly, by which I mean:
- not drinking too much.
- steering well clear of drugs and weed and those who use them.
- not befriending the local scumbags (hardcore putas, pimps, tigueres, certain bar and club owners and staff, police).
- neither giving putas expectation of ongoing income nor an excuse for pretending they had expectation of ongoing income.
- not carrying or displaying much cash or articles that look valuable (even if actually ripoffs).
- dressing conservatively, neither scruffily nor too fashionably. Shorts by day (if you must!) but long pants at night.
- respecting the locals (even when they don't deserve it) ,
- if unfortunate enough to get involved in a dispute, walk away and put it down to experience. It's a holiday, not a pissing up the wall contest.
- if your first trip, spend some time (at least on your first day or two) talking to ex-pat mongers. Rocky's Bar for late breakfast and the adjacent bars of Ruby and Siempre Sol on the beach in the afternoons are good places to meet them.
- don't rent a car or bike on your first trip. Not necessary in Sosua and brings its own complications and possible pitfalls.
- don't tell any locals when you are arriving, when you are leaving, or where you are staying. In general don't tell lies, but lie about these facts if backed into a corner. If you have to say anything, always say you are leaving two weeks after the actual date.I think the guys in the video ignored 90% of your rules LOL
Hillbilly69
03-25-13, 16:26
Hi guys,
I'm planning a trip to Sosua and was hoping I could shoot some videos with some chicas-would it be easy to find willing girls?
I don't recommend it, you are setting yourself up to be extorted.
I have been on this board for 2 years. I never seen a member report they were extorted. I belong to another board where pictures and video are very prevalent. I am not sure how having a video of a chica is fodder for extortion. Some folk are scared of ghost go figure. Having video and fotos have always enhanced my trips. I say go for it.Tips from Fred.
Mr Enternational
03-25-13, 21:06
I just arrived in Sosua. If anyone wants to meet up hit me in PM.
Here is a text exchange (bad spelling included) with a 23 yr old chica I know, and only got with once.
Chica : hola como esta.
Me : estoy bien, y tu?
Chica : no elto biel tengo problema tengo mimadre elfema.
Me : Lo siento por tu madre.
Chica : si elta el hopita notego dinero eltodeseperado.
Me : no text.
I don't do western union (anymore ). Haven't done that since I became enlightened. I already told her I was sorry about her mother. And thats as far as I can go.
It tickles me when chicas finally get around to asking for money. Today it's her mother, another day it will be one of her children. This is the downside of keeping chicas as contacts.
AlwaysHorny 2
03-26-13, 01:11
Only a hit dog hollers.
AlwaysHorny 2 wrote an angry, emotional rant because he most likely has the same mentality as the dudes who got scammed.
This is why you can't pull aside the "make it rain" crowd and give them some game because they'll marginalize your wisdom as being a "hater"Listen clown, you know nothing about me. I don't need to make it rain. I don't need to pay for punany from a fine female too. The main reason I come to Sosua is the ease to have a good time and go visit a place where I feel way more comfortable because I see mostly skin tones just like mine.
Anybody, that has seen me out and about in Sosua knows how I roll. I'm probably one if the most laid back brothers on this board, but when I smell bs I call it out.
True the guy in the vid's was a jerk, but who am I too judge. His behavior brought the situation on himself. Yes, there is a lesson there. Read the info, disseminate, and then lock in the back of your memory.
My ISSUE is that the discussion about him and those like him went overboard AND it has been discussed numerous times on this board. It continually comes back to that because I feel some white faces would be more comfortable if we didn't come around at all. I won't take shots at any singular persons intelligence or inability to look at things on a more granular level, but it's a shame these fools don't know they are getting played while holding the nuts of the closet bigot.
I'm not on here to gain friends or win a popularity contest. My life is GREAT. I'm not going to even get into money because I'll be hard pressed to find much competition on this board in that arena. So before you make assumptions about me, know who the chuck you are taking to. I accept disrespect from no one. Take it as a joke if you want too and it has nothing to do with the fact that I'm 6'4 250 with little to no body fat!
I'm 6'4 250 with little to no body fat!And I bet you have cute dimples!
DeepMmpactt
03-26-13, 07:54
Bump.
Same here, traveling on a first time trip to Sosua in 2 weeks.
After reading the forum the last few weeks particularly this post, I'm having second thoughts. Having enjoyed Colombia, Peru, CR, PI, and Thailand am I wasting my time in Sosua? Does the GFE still exist or is it just a city with thugs, thieves, and mechanical LON all trying to make a fast buck?
I have a non refundable $1000 ticket but sounds like it may be more lucrative to cut my loses now rather than have a miserable vacation with the potential of extortion and jail time!
Thoughts and feedback greatly appreciated!Remember there's a "storm rolling in" "thunder down under" in Sosuas forecast. Go have a great time, Wrx2005 said it best this is an " exception" and not the rule" yes heed the "warning signs" this board have to offer. Don't get paranoid have your wits about you, and go have fun" Judge Wed2005 has ruled! Case is closed! I will be in Sosua June 7-14th, so if you want to see me "get drunk be obnoxious, and video tape, my making it rain" cause I'm big balling" hit me up! (totally joking!). Oldkool, Hillbilly69, Mr Enternational, Mr Gogo come see me. Lmao!
Manizales911
03-26-13, 15:47
Remember there's a "storm rolling in" "thunder down under" in Sosuas forecast. Go have a great time, Wrx2005 said it best this is an " exception" and not the rule" yes heed the "warning signs" this board have to offer. Don't get paranoid have your wits about you, and go have fun" Judge Wed2005 has ruled! Case is closed! I will be in Sosua June 7-14th, so if you want to see me "get drunk be obnoxious, and video tape, my making it rain" cause I'm big balling" hit me up! (totally joking!). Oldkool, Hillbilly69, Mr Enternational, Mr Gogo come see me. Lmao!I'm pretty sure that I will be there during that time Deep, Sosua you have been warned, hahaha.
Mongerman69
03-26-13, 17:21
[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1402767]Listen clown, you know nothing about me. I don't need to make it rain. I don't need to pay for punany from a fine female too. The main reason I come to Sosua is the ease to have a good time and go visit a place where I feel way more comfortable because I see mostly skin tones just like mine.
Anybody, that has seen me out and about in Sosua knows how I roll. I'm probably one if the most laid back brothers on this board, but when I smell bs I call it out.
True the guy in the vid's was a jerk, but who am I too judge. His behavior brought the situation on himself. Yes, there is a lesson there. Read the info, disseminate, and then lock in the back of your memory.
My ISSUE is that the discussion about him and those like him went overboard AND it has been discussed numerous times on this board. It continually comes back to that because I feel some white faces would be more comfortable if we didn't come around at all. I won't take shots at any singular persons intelligence or inability to look at things on a more granular level, but it's a shame these fools don't know they are getting played while holding the nuts of the closet bigot.
The white man's the devil!
Lakeside32
03-26-13, 17:55
But man, I think some of us are over-reacting just a bit. If I am reading correctly a basketball team (from the ghetto of course) can attribute the rise in the value of the Brazilian real, and the thriving Brazilian economy to the trips they had to Brazil. And also I don't think the world is going to end because there are young black men over-tipping women somewhere. Well the only alternative I see now is that American Airlines and jetblue should put some kind of cap on how many of us black men should fly now.
The white man's the devil!Alright I had enough of this fighting related to this video. If you can't be civilized please go elsewhere. I am not singling out you Mongerman69 but referring to everyone else as well.
This is the DR and what happened to this guy is not unusual. Talk to expats in DR and they will tell you dozens of such stories.
Let's return to the topic of mongering.
I'm pretty sure that I will be there during that time Deep, Sosua you have been warned, hahaha.I'm here now! You have been warned!
Anyone know what Villa this is? Looks kinda nice
Towelboy2010
03-27-13, 03:52
I am a senior member who began mongering in South East Asia in 2003. What an adventure that 1st trip was!
I am planning a trip later this spring, with a buddy, to either the Dominican Republic or Columbia (Cartagena & Medellin).
For about four months now I have been reading the forums and still have not made up my mind on the best choice. Tho I am leaning towards Columbia. I am thinking those who may have been in SEA and the DR & Columbia can steer me in the right direction.
I am 58, American, no Spanish ability (tho I am taking an adult 'Ed course on conversational Spanish). I am most familiar with the monger scene in the Philippines (read GFE) and have had great success there. I loved going to the LA Café in Manila and picking up the girls one or 2 at a time. Ha ha ha.
I generally get 2. 3 girls over the course of the evening. The most I had was 5 in one night in Angeles City (1-2-2). For instance, it sounds like at Blackbeards in the DR, that they roll up the streets by midnight when I am just getting started. I am friendly, cheerful and easy going and seldom get rejected. I search more for "chemistry" than looks. I watch my money, but don't pinch it either, generally staying with market rates.
If I went to Columbia, I would probably use Fabio in Cartagena and stay at the Mansion in Medellin.
I am a former band member so I do like to party (cola) and that is one thing Columbia offers that the others do not tho I am years out of practice now anyway.
I will continue to read, but experienced advice is welcome at this point.
Thanks, Bob
I am a senior member who began mongering in South East Asia in 2003. What an adventure that 1st trip was!
I am planning a trip later this spring, with a buddy, to either the Dominican Republic or Columbia (Cartagena & Medellin).
For about four months now I have been reading the forums and still have not made up my mind on the best choice. Tho I am leaning towards Columbia. I am thinking those who may have been in SEA and the DR & Columbia can steer me in the right direction.
I am 58, American, no Spanish ability (tho I am taking an adult 'Ed course on conversational Spanish). I am most familiar with the monger scene in the Philippines (read GFE) and have had great success there. I loved going to the LA Café in Manila and picking up the girls one or 2 at a time. Ha ha ha.
I generally get 2. 3 girls over the course of the evening. The most I had was 5 in one night in Angeles City (1-2-2). For instance, it sounds like at Blackbeards in the DR, that they roll up the streets by midnight when I am just getting started. I am friendly, cheerful and easy going and seldom get rejected. I search more for "chemistry" than looks. I watch my money, but don't pinch it either, generally staying with market rates.
If I went to Columbia, I would probably use Fabio in Cartagena and stay at the Mansion in Medellin.
I am a former band member so I do like to party (cola) and that is one thing Columbia offers that the others do not tho I am years out of practice now anyway.
I will continue to read, but experienced advice is welcome at this point.
Thanks, BobThanks for posting Bob. Your post reminded me of where I don't want to be when I have ten years in this game; still searching. Charm only goes so far when you don't learn a language or culture of other countries we like. I call it doing your homework. The way the game is changing, solo travelers who keep their mouth shut and do their homework will have success. As the saying goes" there are those who know, and then there are those that don't need to know.
But to answer your question, the DR (Sosua) is for you. Good luck.
I am a senior member who began mongering in South East Asia in 2003. What an adventure that 1st trip was!
I am planning a trip later this spring, with a buddy, to either the Dominican Republic or Columbia (Cartagena & Medellin).
For about four months now I have been reading the forums and still have not made up my mind on the best choice. Tho I am leaning towards Columbia. I am thinking those who may have been in SEA and the DR & Columbia can steer me in the right direction.
I will continue to read, but experienced advice is welcome at this point.
Thanks, BobI have been to DR a few times and to Medellin as well. If you like slim, caucasian girls with the blonde bikini look then Colombia is your choice. If you like dark girls with great attitudes and ample Tits and Ass then DR wins 3:1.
I like Colombia better because I like the light skinned ones. But I find DR to be a better value for money and cheaper air tickets from USA.
I am a senior member who began mongering in South East Asia in 2003. What an adventure that 1st trip was!
I am planning a trip later this spring, with a buddy, to either the Dominican Republic or Columbia (Cartagena & Medellin).
For about four months now I have been reading the forums and still have not made up my mind on the best choice. Tho I am leaning towards Columbia. I am thinking those who may have been in SEA and the DR & Columbia can steer me in the right direction.
I am 58, American, no Spanish ability (tho I am taking an adult 'Ed course on conversational Spanish). I am most familiar with the monger scene in the Philippines (read GFE) and have had great success there. I loved going to the LA Café in Manila and picking up the girls one or 2 at a time. Ha ha ha.
I generally get 2. 3 girls over the course of the evening. The most I had was 5 in one night in Angeles City (1-2-2). For instance, it sounds like at Blackbeards in the DR, that they roll up the streets by midnight when I am just getting started. I am friendly, cheerful and easy going and seldom get rejected. I search more for "chemistry" than looks. I watch my money, but don't pinch it either, generally staying with market rates.
If I went to Columbia, I would probably use Fabio in Cartagena and stay at the Mansion in Medellin.
I am a former band member so I do like to party (cola) and that is one thing Columbia offers that the others do not tho I am years out of practice now anyway.
I will continue to read, but experienced advice is welcome at this point.
Thanks, BobBob
Five in one day in your 50s? I want to be like you when I grow up!
Both Colombia and the DR are worthwhile destinations. IMO the primary deciding factor would be whether you like Mulatas or the more stereotypical Latina look. If the first, then the DR. If the second, Colombia (though there are plenty of African descent people in certain areas of Colombia).
Also if you like a beach, Sosua has a decent one. MDE obviously doesn't. And Cartagena's beach is lousy.
I wouldn't advise doing drugs on your first visit to either place. Though Colombia is probably the less risky of the two. The DR is notoriously tough on drugs.
Also forgot to add that if Silicone breasts and ass bothers you, you might prefer the DR. Colombia has way more than any other country I've mongered in.
Manizales911
03-27-13, 13:48
I'm here now! You have been warned!Oh shiiiiiiit, there might not be anything left of Sosua by the time I get there, hahaha. I look forward to reading your boots on the ground reports, they are always entertaining. Have fun, make it rain, hahaha.
ForceSteeler
03-27-13, 15:55
Well I'm planning a trip to Columbia? Anyone know where's the best place to stay in MDE?
Also how do you pick up women? I keep hearing about Casas? Is that a club, or all women on the street up for grabs like Sosua.
Charles Pooter
03-27-13, 18:29
Well I'm planning a trip to Columbia? Anyone know where's the best place to stay in MDE?
Also how do you pick up women? I keep hearing about Casas? Is that a club, or all women on the street up for grabs like Sosua.You might get a better response if you post in the Medellin section. Then if you get useful replies they will be accessible to other interested parties and won't clutter the Sosua section.
ManOfMystery
03-27-13, 22:18
Sorry I haven't had a chance to post earlier, but thanks to everyone for the great tips and positive feedback regarding my doubts that a trip to Sosua would still be a great experience. You've really allayed my concerns. I just have a couple more questions. First, I'll be heading down for the first time in mid-May which I understand is the beginning of the "low" season. Will this mean Sosua won't be too crowded or there will be less chicas around? Also, I'm a little curious as to the the reason for the secrecy in regards to telling chicas when my trip will be over once I'm down in Sosua. I've traveled a lot, albeit never to a scene like Sosua, and while not volunteering the information, I never kept it secret as to the length of my stay. I'm sure there's a good reason why to do this in Sosua, I was just wondering what it is.
Thanks
Oh shiiiiiiit, there might not be anything left of Sosua by the time I get there, hahaha. I look forward to reading your boots on the ground reports, they are always entertaining. Have fun, make it rain, hahaha.There is plenty here! The girls are off the hook!
At my age, I will save you a plenty!
SavePros321
03-27-13, 23:37
Well I'm planning a trip to Columbia? Anyone know where's the best place to stay in MDE?
Also how do you pick up women? I keep hearing about Casas? Is that a club, or all women on the street up for grabs like Sosua.-It's "Colombia"; not "Columbia"
-If you approach every woman in the streets as if they are up for grabs like in Sosua, you might get stabbed, or shot, or both.
-It's a great place, so long as you ain't "scurred":
a car bomb exploded in the middle of parque lleras at 10:15 pm last thursday night. 70 lbs of explosives inside a VW. (posted over at C R T today).
Best place to ask any more questions is in the Medellin forum
Hillbilly69
03-27-13, 23:49
:
(posted over at C R T today).
Best place to ask any more questions is in the Medellin forumPretty sure your bombing was from 2001, maybe Rumplestilskin?
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/americas/05/18/colombia.bomb.02/index.html
SavePros321
03-28-13, 00:00
Pretty sure your bombing was from 2001, maybe Rumplestilskin?
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/americas/05/18/colombia.bomb.02/index.htmlThe guy that reported it posted it as of 3hrs ago over at C R T in the "Gringo Safety" forum. I'm hoping he isn't stupid enough to be reporting old news.
Hillbilly69
03-28-13, 00:19
The guy that reported it posted it as of 3hrs ago over at C R T in the "Gringo Safety" forum. I'm hoping he isn't stupid enough to be reporting old news.I was in Medellin when some of those bombings occured and that was a couple of years before that (1999), yea he is a dork.
Charles Pooter
03-28-13, 00:43
It's "Colombia"; not "Columbia"You are not wrong, but the name "Columbia" was widely used in the English speaking world in the 19th century before we gradually standardized on "Colombia".
You might think it is being courteous to Colombians to use their own name for the country, but actually it is a bit of a slight. After all, English speakers normally use "Brazil"."Spain","Italy" and "China" and not the locals' names. Why? Because those countries have been sufficiently important in our history for so many centuries that we have gradually, and in some cases ignorantly, evolved our own names for them which have passed into the English language. They were, rightly or wrongly, seen culturally as "world players" whereas Colombia was not.
I think in Colombia's case the need to distinguish it from British Columbia and the District of Columbia might also have played a part.
Political correctness of the post-colonial decades has also played a role. We now use the local names for what were Bengal, Ceylon and Burma. But not for Thailand. Why is that? I would guess because Thailand has never been a European colony so doesn't feel such a pressing need to get out from under a name imposed by Europeans.
Send any comments to Tempoecorto by PM.
Hillbilly69
03-28-13, 00:49
You are not wrong, but the name "Columbia" was widely used in the English speaking world in the 19th century before we gradually standardized on "Colombia".
You might think it is being courteous to Colombians to use their own name for the country, but actually it is a bit of a slight. After all, English speakers normally use "Brazil"."Spain","Italy" and "China" and not the locals' names. Why? Because those countries have been sufficiently important in our History for so many centuries that we have gradually, and in some cases ignorantly, evolved our own names for them which have passed into the English language. They were, rightly or wrongly, seen culturally as "world players" whereas Colombia was not.
I think in Colombia's case the need to distinguish it from British Columbia and the District of Columbia might also have played a part.
Political correctness of the post-colonial decades has also played a role. We now use the local names for what were Bengal, Ceylon and Burma. But not for Thailand. Why is that? I would guess because Thailand has never been a European colony so doesn't feel such a pressing need to get out from under a name imposed by Europeans.
Send any comments to Tempoecorto by PM.That is not the half of it, Forcesteeler made a Youtube video where he reviewed monger destinations including Columbia, yea he spelled it wrong there too, now he wants info there? I thought he was already there? So he reviewed a place he has never been to? Sounds like Oldkool in the Rio thread!
That's about like the guy this week who said he was a rich dude from Chicago then takes the red eye on Spirit to Santiago? WTF? LMAO Fred Sanford Trump!
Now fake bombings! LMFAO Good entertainment this week!
That is not the half of it, Forcesteeler made a Youtube video where he reviewed monger destinations including Columbia, yea he spelled it wrong there too, now he wants info there? I thought he was already there? So he reviewed a place he has never been to? Sounds like Oldkool in the Rio thread!
That's about like the guy this week who said he was a rich dude from Chicago then takes the red eye on Spirit to Santiago? WTF? LMAO Fred Sanford Trump!
Now fake bombings! LMFAO Good entertainment this week!We talk about Sosua changing. We talk about the girls in Sosua changing. Now we have "fake mongerers"? DAMN! The game is all fucked up now. Jackson needs to do a "wish I were a monger" thread.
Tempoecorto
03-28-13, 02:05
Political correctness of the post-colonial decades has also played a role. We now use the local names for what were Bengal, Ceylon and Burma. But not for Thailand. Why is that? I would guess because Thailand has never been a European colony so doesn't feel such a pressing need to get out from under a name imposed by Europeans.
Send any comments to Tempoecorto by PM.Hey, why the dig at me, Charles Pooter, LOL.
Actually, perhaps I am an opinionated pain in the neck, but I would much rather have Ceylon than Srilanka or Calcutta rather than the new fangled idiocy. Speaking about it, when I first found out that Florence, Italy is really Firenze, Italy (Italia) , I did think it was funny what with my idiotic anglo-centric vision.
Tempoecorto
03-28-13, 02:07
That is not the half of it, Forcesteeler made a Youtube video where he reviewed monger destinations including Columbia, yea he spelled it wrong there too, now he wants info there? I thought he was already there? So he reviewed a place he has never been to? Sounds like Oldkool in the Rio thread!
That's about like the guy this week who said he was a rich dude from Chicago then takes the red eye on Spirit to Santiago? WTF? LMAO Fred Sanford Trump!
Now fake bombings! LMFAO Good entertainment this week!Hey come off it bro. There are a whole bunch of people here who cannot spell their own language correctly. So I would cut this guy some slack. Eh? LOL.
But not for Thailand. Why is that? I would guess because Thailand has never been a European colony so doesn't feel such a pressing need to get out from under a name imposed by Europeans.Didn't it used to be called Siam?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnD1JtSALCA
SavePros321
03-28-13, 05:19
I was in Medellin when some of those bombings occured and that was a couple of years before that (1999), yea he is a dork.You called it right:
Isn't it funny that the local news and papers, plus the guys that live here and go to Lleras everday, are always the last to know.
About a week ago the ELN posted a banner and placed a bag with a small quantity of explosives on an overpass on the Autopista. It was front page news.
But the car bomb that exploded in the middle of Parque Lleras. Not even a whisper.
Got to love C R T for all the latest breaking news.
Just sayin'
I believe that explosion happened in 2001...
SavePros321
03-28-13, 05:49
From Sosua News, March 25, 2013:
Maundy Thursday and Good Friday (March 28 and 29) prior to the Easter weekend, will be commemorated with the most respect in Sosúa. For example, Friday afternoon, Good Friday, Pastor Bernardo Vásquez of the parish in Charamicos, will lead a large group of believers, with a large wooden cross along the beach of Sosúa. It will be a quiet and devout lot because there may be no music played nor danced. But the following Saturday and Sunday will be party time. From all parts of the country, Santo Domingo, Montellano, Puerto Plata, Santiago and La Vega, visitors will come to our beach resort to celebrate. All hotels will be overloaded. Especially at the beach it will busy and festive.
The traffic police (AMET) will, as announced the commander Juan Polanco Martínez, patrol with 40 officers extra. This to prevent calamities. On the beach will be much to see and to do. Besides fish, chicken and other sales, there are many performances by musical groups.
In addition, various sports competitions will be organized with great prizes to be won. Also there is a miss bikini pageant. The festivities are sponsored by the Brugal rum manufacturer and the water producer Sasino located in Sosúa. By the end of the (Sunday) afternoon the beach will be deserted. Most visitors go home again. With the end of the Semana Santa celebrations also the low season for Sosúa arrives. The coming months it will be much quieter in the beach resort.
Tempoecorto
03-28-13, 13:36
Didn't it used to be called Siam?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnD1JtSALCAWell done. Siam is the name for Thailand and Cambodge (in French spelling / pronunciation) for Cambodia.
Charles Pooter
03-28-13, 14:53
Didn't it used to be called Siam?You're right, Frannie. Slightly different in that the name Siam was imposed by dominant neighbours rather than by Europeans, and the replacement name "Thailand" is still in an English-friendly "format", but still a poor example on my part.
You're right, Frannie. Slightly different in that the name Siam was imposed by dominant neighbours rather than by Europeans, and the replacement name "Thailand" is still in an English-friendly "format", but still a poor example on my part.They changed it from Siamese cats to Thai pussy, then?
ForceSteeler
03-28-13, 16:36
That is not the half of it, Forcesteeler made a Youtube video where he reviewed monger destinations including Columbia, yea he spelled it wrong there too, now he wants info there? I thought he was already there? So he reviewed a place he has never been to? Sounds like Oldkool in the Rio thread!
That's about like the guy this week who said he was a rich dude from Chicago then takes the red eye on Spirit to Santiago? WTF? LMAO Fred Sanford Trump!
Now fake bombings! LMFAO Good entertainment this week!I reply from the video in youtube, but I'm not the author, I never been to Columbia.
ConquerorVal
03-28-13, 17:57
From Sosua News, March 25, 2013:
Also there is a miss bikini pageant. Its what Jesus would have wanted. LOL
Hillbilly69
03-28-13, 20:47
I reply from the video in youtube, but I'm not the author, I never been to Columbia.Thanks for the clarification.
DeepMmpactt
03-29-13, 02:36
Hey Tomjackin I was wondering is Classicos, was at least back on "life supports" coming back to life or is it still "flat lining"? (dead). Sorry I can't get over Classicos not being the number one "party central" Did you find that crazy Patricia? Better yet your not "bleeding" are you? She carries a machete knife! Lmao! Manizales911, don't forget to look a brother up at New Gardens. I am going. To. Unleash the. Chocolate Jackhammer on Naomi and Amelia at the same time! One helluva "happy. Hour" I'm buzzing already just. Thinking about them. Hey Tomjackin Naomi says call her. LOL! I hope to run into fellow mongers at New. Gardens or the. Clisante June 7-14th, just look for the 6 ft 3 brother, with the El Caballo Negro shirt on,"making stupid horse sounds" and smashing fine as putas with the prettier toes! (I'm a. Weirdo) Lmao! The Chocolate Jackhammer smashes once again!
Day 7 in Sousa. 2 left and I'm not looking forward to leaving. Been hanging with tomjacking almost every night. Great guy, TON OF FUN! Not as many girls as in Dec, but still plenty. Can't do them all. Classicos is closed. D latins is the spot. Lot of guys came in yesterday, hope to see some new girls tonight to balance things out.
Hey Tomjackin I was wondering is Classicos, was at least back on "life supports" coming back to life or is it still "flat lining"? (dead). Sorry I can't get over Classicos not being the number one "party central" Did you find that crazy Patricia? Better yet your not "bleeding" are you? She carries a machete knife! Lmao! Manizales911, don't forget to look a brother up at New Gardens. I am going. To. Unleash the. Chocolate Jackhammer on Naomi and Amelia at the same time! One helluva "happy. Hour" I'm buzzing already just. Thinking about them. Hey Tomjackin Naomi says call her. LOL! I hope to run into fellow mongers at New. Gardens or the. Clisante June 7-14th, just look for the 6 ft 3 brother, with the El Caballo Negro shirt on,"making stupid horse sounds" and smashing fine as putas with the prettier toes! (I'm a. Weirdo) Lmao! The Chocolate Jackhammer smashes once again!Hey Deep!
Leaving today, and Classicos was closed the entire 7 night trip. Been hanging with the 'Detroit' connection, Brother P this trip, good people.
No sighting of crazy ass Patricia; I was looking for her. I forgot my razor blades and wanted to use her weapons to shave with.
I did call Naomi and told her I was El Perro Blanco; she didn't get the joke. Then I got drunk (yes me) , lost her number, and never followed up. Thanks for the info; but I failed again!:(
I did Sosua and had a great time inspite having lame wingmen. Sosua is so easy a blindmaqn could have a ball. MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WAS NOT HAVING enough leche to go around. The flow in Sosua is very good. Around 4 all the girls start rolling to la rumba. Great time to chill with the guys and watch the talent lining up. If you stay to long you know to many girls and they get annoyed because you did not bang them. It is a good problem to have. I stayed at Sosua suites for 65 a night. I paid 50 for same room 4 months ago. All my freelancers really performed well.
Anyone got the 411 on The Spot? I saw it advertised on Cuba Dave's Facebook. It's the bar behind Winners Circle. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cubadave-In-Sosua/305520736144572
Day 7 in Sousa. 2 left and I'm not looking forward to leaving. Been hanging with tomjacking almost every night. Great guy, TON OF FUN! Not as many girls as in Dec, but still plenty. Can't do them all. Classicos is closed. D latins is the spot. Lot of guys came in yesterday, hope to see some new girls tonight to balance things out.There will be no new girls. Only Haitians. It is Semana Santos.
There will be no new girls. Only Haitians. It is Semana Santos.When do people start to come back? In particular the girls return?
When do people start to come back? In particular the girls return?Semana Santa, sorry for the earlier mistake. They will start returning today. Yesterday was the real holy day. Now starts the party. There will be a lot of Dominicans, females and males, that are not pros partying as well. You might luck up and find a real chick but, I highly doubt it.
Chris Long
03-30-13, 08:29
I'm coming back to Sosua next week and was wondering what the current prices are. When I was there in January the girls were all asking for 2000 for short time and 4000 for long time TLN, is this still the case or have things come back to normal with 1500 for short time and 3000 for TLN.
Thanks,
Chris
When do people start to come back? In particular the girls return?Here is a good article on Semana Santa for background: http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3284&article=1
Here are also some vids from last year and 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4F-tOjfxe8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCQ0XOSeZEg
Anyone got the 411 on The Spot? I saw it advertised on Cuba Dave's Facebook. It's the bar behind Winners Circle.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cubadave-In-Sosua/305520736144572I looked into buying this place before it was"The Spot" it wasn't open in Dec. But I'll be there next week and let you know how it is.
I'm coming back to Sosua next week and was wondering what the current prices are. When I was there in January the girls were all asking for 2000 for short time and 4000 for long time TLN, is this still the case or have things come back to normal with 1500 for short time and 3000 for TLN.
Thanks,
ChrisThe game hasnt changed."The girls can ASK for what ever price they want. Its how you much you pay, that is important!"
I had a girl ask me for 6500 for TLN in D'Latins. I gave her a kiss on the cheek and with a big smile I told her "Have a good evening.". Two nights later, she came with me for 3K.
Also, I think a number of these chicks are just very good at negociating. She knows her price is 3K a night, but she also knows if she tells you 3K, you will come back and offer her 2K and then you will settle for 2500. If she starts at 4K, then there is a better chance you will end up giving her the 3K she is looking for.
I say that it is still 1500 ST and between 2-3K for TLN. But for 3K, she better be fucking hot! No average looking chick should get more than 2K for tln.
The game hasnt changed."The girls can ASK for what ever price they want. Its how you much you pay, that is important!"
I had a girl ask me for 6500 for TLN in D'Latins. I gave her a kiss on the cheek and with a big smile I told her "Have a good evening.". Two nights later, she came with me for 3K.
Also, I think a number of these chicks are just very good at negociating. She knows her price is 3K a night, but she also knows if she tells you 3K, you will come back and offer her 2K and then you will settle for 2500. If she starts at 4K, then there is a better chance you will end up giving her the 3K she is looking for.
I say that it is still 1500 ST and between 2-3K for TLN. But for 3K, she better be fucking hot! No average looking chick should get more than 2K for tln.So in other words, the girls are treating the dudes like suckers? Obviously it probably has worked many times before. Chicas even asking as a starting price over 3k is something new in sosua. So the game has changed my friend.
Anyone seen this dude lately? https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/66865_4781629303224_1681442696_n.jpg
Hillbilly69
03-30-13, 22:49
Anyone seen this dude lately?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/66865_4781629303224_1681442696_n.jpgIf he bought it on terms check Boca Chica. (Where Darcy turned up) and was he in C-Mos video? If so he ain't Jewish so check the dungeons.
ForceSteeler
03-30-13, 23:00
The game hasnt changed."The girls can ASK for what ever price they want. Its how you much you pay, that is important!"
I had a girl ask me for 6500 for TLN in D'Latins. I gave her a kiss on the cheek and with a big smile I told her "Have a good evening.". Two nights later, she came with me for 3K.
Also, I think a number of these chicks are just very good at negociating. She knows her price is 3K a night, but she also knows if she tells you 3K, you will come back and offer her 2K and then you will settle for 2500. If she starts at 4K, then there is a better chance you will end up giving her the 3K she is looking for.
I say that it is still 1500 ST and between 2-3K for TLN. But for 3K, she better be fucking hot! No average looking chick should get more than 2K for tln.No way I would pay a DR chick over 3, 000 pesos, I could go to Costa Rica and get me a smoking Hot Dime (10) Colombian or Brazilian at the Del Rey for that Price. Most of these DR chicks are average and homely at best. But I guess they know theres alot of Newbies that are coming to Sosua so they know they can get that price.
It seemed it was more easy and less messy than doing shots off their asses. However, both have their merits!
Full trip report cuming when time permits.
I still have more to cum!
OK, here is the final lot!
Mr Enternational
04-01-13, 01:22
No way I would pay a DR chick over 3, 000 pesos, I could go to Costa Rica and get me a smoking Hot Dime (10) Colombian or Brazilian at the Del Rey for that Price. Most of these DR chicks are average and homely at best. But I guess they know theres alot of Newbies that are coming to Sosua so they know they can get that price.Cut out the middle man. Why not go to Colombia or Brazil and get them for even less?
Cut out the middle man. Why not go to Colombia or Brazil and get them for even less?Not to doubt what FS was saying but I have never seen a Brazilian in DelRey. Nicas, Ticas, Dominicanas, and Colombianas were all I saw there. But those chicas there boycotted me so I had limited interactions. Thats why I got girls out of HLH (zona Blue) who were GFE and worked at the hotel I was staying at. Plus I never paid those Union prices at Delrey.
I fine Dominican Women gorgeous. I love black women that is my preference. I pay 1000 to 2000 pesos and bang every chica I want. Going to Rio cost twice for flight, hotel and pussy. I just did a week and paid 1300 dollars for everything in the DR SD and Sosua. I had 9 women and no leche left. Sosua provides me an outlet that excedes all my requirements.
Cut out the middle man. Why not go to Colombia or Brazil and get them for even less?
I fine Dominican Women gorgeous. I love black women that is my preference. I pay 1000 to 2000 pesos and bang every chica I want. Going to Rio cost twice for flight, hotel and pussy. I just did a week and paid 1300 dollars for everything in the DR SD and Sosua. I had 9 women and no leche left. Sosua provides me an outlet that excedes all my requirements.Agreed. Rio is my favorite place in the World, but good luck finding a chick for under $100 there. In Sosua, the most I generally pay is 2500 pesos ($61) at Passions and CMP. One time I did pay 3000 pesos, but that was for all night til Noon the following day with the hottest (IMO) chica in Classico's.
On average, IMO the women in the DR aren't as attractive as those in Colombia or Brasil. But with a couple hundred women on Pedro Clisante at night, even the pickiest person will find something they like.
OK, here is the final lot!Congratulations!. Very nice Photo-Series.
No way I would pay a DR chick over 3, 000 pesos, I could go to Costa Rica and get me a smoking Hot Dime (10) Colombian or Brazilian at the Del Rey for that Price. Most of these DR chicks are average and homely at best. But I guess they know theres alot of Newbies that are coming to Sosua so they know they can get that price.Really? I have had many guys tell me that the girls in Del Rey have a union going on and that you are not taking anything out of there for under 100 Bucks! I have heard that from many sources. Maybe I need to read the CR forum to see what they have to say.
Camaro1257
04-01-13, 12:21
Really? I have had many guys tell me that the girls in Del Rey have a union going on and that you are not taking anything out of there for under 100 Bucks! I have heard that from many sources. Maybe I need to read the CR forum to see what they have to say.I can confirm what Bravo says in reference to the Colombianas at the Del Ray, they are mercenarias de sexo! It is almost impossible to get one for less than $100. 00 for an hour. The same holds true for Colombianas at Hotel Veneto in Panama City Panama. In the DR las tarifas are more flexible and with a little mining you can easily find a diamond in he rough. In addition TLN in the DR can be had from 2000RD. 5000RD or $50- $125.00 depending on where you are your Spanisn, negotiating skills and how much the Chica likes you.
Outstanding! Thanks, Tijuana!
OK, here is the final lot!
Mr Enternational
04-01-13, 14:50
Agreed. Rio is my favorite place in the World, but good luck finding a chick for under $100 there.There are too many private apartments in Rio where you can get girls for $40.
http://www.amantesecia.com.br/listaanuncio.php?sessao=Morenas e Mulatas®iao=Todas
And there is always Vila Mimosa for $20. And New Jack City for less than that. The big problem these days would be finding a place to stay for under $150/day.
In Sosua, the most I generally pay is 2500 pesos ($61) at Passions and CMP. One time I did pay 3000 pesos, but that was for all night til Noon the following day with the hottest (IMO) chica in Classico's. On average, IMO the women in the DR aren't as attractive as those in Colombia or Brasil. But with a couple hundred women on Pedro Clisante at night, even the pickiest person will find something they like.I don't care if I don't find something I like. Somebody is still getting fucked!
I fine Dominican Women gorgeous. I love black women that is my preference. I pay 1000 to 2000 pesos and bang every chica I want. Going to Rio cost twice for flight, hotel and pussy. I just did a week and paid 1300 dollars for everything in the DR SD and Sosua. I had 9 women and no leche left. Sosua provides me an outlet that excedes all my requirements.For a week in Rio I'd say you need at least 3k all in. Thing with Rio is the Apts are more expensive too. On average you're going to spend about $100 per night for an apartment.
Enternational is right, there are plenty of options in Rio that are on par with sosua price wise and will beat out sosua in looks and quality. The thing is though, those places he's talking about, the apartments in centro, new jack city, villa mimose (not my thing) , require more saviness than the average "monger" in Sosua. See most of the guys in Sosua are not real mongers. Sosua requires no skill at all. It's the ultimate point and click situation. Rio on the other hand is different now. It's def not as point and click as it used to be for the top quality chicks at least. So based on the skill level (language, knowledge of the culture, etc) of the Sosua crowd all those lower priced options would not even be available in Rio.
Nine days in Sosua. 3/22 to3/31. A good trip. Lots of girls and lots of laughs. Meet some cool guys this trip. Didn't see alot of the girls I saw in Dec, but there were plenty. The number went down after good Friday. Paid between 1500&2000 for short term. Between 2000$3000 TLN. Got a tln for 2000 from a chica I did previously, it was around 2 am. Not easy but can be done. Most girls were good performers, I might be getting better at picking. 3 chicas offered to go sin condom for a propina. That was new for me. Didn't partake. Had drama the last night. After a great performance the chica wanted to leave, but be paid the tln rate of 3000. After a big argument I just paid her. Didn't need the drama.
Hotel Casa Cayena. Decent hotel. Room was decent. Included breakfast was great. Wilfreds a great guy. No issues with the safe, but kept my cash in a real estate key lock box.
Didn't see anybody make it rain but I see guys getting the "VIP" at dlatins. WTF? All you need is 3000 pesos max. My point is I can see Sosua changing, probably for the worse. Didn't make it to Santiago to meet any of the girls from online, too much going on in sosua. That's all folks!
Nine days in Sosua. 3/22 to3/31. A good trip. Lots of girls and lots of laughs. Meet some cool guys this trip. Didn't see alot of the girls I saw in Dec, but there were plenty. The number went down after good Friday. Paid between 1500&2000 for short term. Between 2000$3000 TLN. Got a tln for 2000 from a chica I did previously, it was around 2 am. Not easy but can be done. Most girls were good performers, I might be getting better at picking. 3 chicas offered to go sin condom for a propina. That was new for me. Didn't partake. Had drama the last night. After a great performance the chica wanted to leave, but be paid the tln rate of 3000. After a big argument I just paid her. Didn't need the drama.
Hotel Casa Cayena. Decent hotel. Room was decent. Included breakfast was great. Wilfreds a great guy. No issues with the safe, but kept my cash in a real estate key lock box.
Didn't see anybody make it rain but I see guys getting the "VIP" at dlatins. WTF? All you need is 3000 pesos max. My point is I can see Sosua changing, probably for the worse. Didn't make it to Santiago to meet any of the girls from online, too much going on in sosua. That's all folks!Thanks for posting brother. Very interesting, three offered bareback? A guy from this board told me three months ago that he caught a STD in Sosua and he always strapped up. He said he got BBBJ before sex only. Sosua is a "Small pool" and the girls are turning three and four tricks a day, be careful fellas.
The Mind Bender
04-01-13, 22:18
Had drama the last night. After a great performance the chica wanted to leave, but be paid the tln rate of 3000. After a big argument I just paid her. Didn't need the drama.I'd just let her know that I know it's a trick and that she could have gotten more if she stayed and then I'd escort her out and pay her at the front desk like the skank she was LOL
I have been trying to tell guys this for a while now. Tell these chicas upfront that you will not fall for the ookey doke move! You don't have to be an asshole about it, in fact, you can make it fun and have a good laugh at the same time. After getting to know her name, age, where she is front, etc..... With a big smile on your face ask her "How is your dog? Did he run away today? Did your cow die this afternoon? Is your mom having a leg transplant tonight?". She will probably look at you and say "What are you talking about? Are you crazy?"
At that point just start laughing and explain that you are just joking with her. Tell her "Listen, I have heard every excuse in the book! There is no excuse you can come up with that I have not heard before. At 4AM if you tell me you have to leave because your child is in the hospital, or your mother got hit by a car or your friend was locked up by the police, then I will only pay you ST not TLN!" You don't have to be a dick, you can say it with a big smile on your face and you both can laugh about it.
I agree with Mind Bender, pay her in front of hotel staff / security. To add to that, if there was a problem and she is very angry about her pay. I would advocate that you take off for a couple of hours. Go to After 1 or go grab a bite to eat. That way if she returns with the police, you won't be there and by the time you return, they will have left.
SavePros321
04-02-13, 00:18
At that point just start laughing and explain that you are just joking with her. Tell her "Listen, I have heard every excuse in the book! There is no excuse you can come up with that I have not heard before. At 4AM if you tell me you have to leave because your child is in the hospital, or your mother got hit by a car or your friend was locked up by the police, then I will only pay you ST not TLN!" You don't have to be a dick, you can say it with a big smile on your face and you both can laugh about it.The problem with this is that 99.5% of Sosua mongers will not know how to say any of this in Spanish. Contrary to what most people believe, there are not too many chicas in Sosua that speak or understand English apart from the usual "You like massage papi?"
Mr Enternational
04-02-13, 01:03
The problem with this is that 99.5% of Sosua mongers will not know how to say any of this in Spanish. Contrary to what most people believe, there are not too many chicas in Sosua that speak or understand English apart from the usual "You like massage papi?"And besides that it will ruin the mood! But really it is probably most of the guys who can't speak Spanish that the chicks try to pull this shit on. It probably frustrates the shit out of them when a pissed off chica is speaking rapidly in Spanish and mean mugging so they just fork over the cash because they don't want to have problems. I got some shit pulled on me in Vietnam last month. (Click on "View Original Post")
.......But what could I do? I can't even say hello in Vietnamese so I just stole the baby wipes and counted it as a loss. Since I speak Spanish and don't have a problem communicating in Sosua, then things are less likely to go south. If a chick tries to start something I can tell her just how it is. She may say a few cuss words, but she knows I am right and finally accepts it.
The waitress at D'Latin came over one night and tried to pull some shit. Now she broke me the fuck off for an hour. Then she started talking about she had to get home to her kids. I said okay. Here is 1000 pesos. She said she needed more because she lives in Puerto Plata and has to pay a taxi, because the guy who usually takes her after work would already be gone. I was able to tell her what the fuck does that have to do with me? I asked her how much she made at D'Latin. I forget what it was. Just say 3000 for 2 weeks. I said well you just got 1000 in one hour, so consider yourself lucky. She finally gave up and left.
The Mind Bender
04-02-13, 05:19
I have been trying to tell guys this for a while now. Tell these chicas upfront that you will not fall for the ookey doke move! You don't have to be an asshole about it, in fact, you can make it fun and have a good laugh at the same time. After getting to know her name, age, where she is front, etc. With a big smile on your face ask her "How is your dog? Did he run away today? Did your cow die this afternoon? Is your mom having a leg transplant tonight?". She will probably look at you and say "What are you talking about? Are you crazy?"
At that point just start laughing and explain that you are just joking with her. Tell her "Listen, I have heard every excuse in the book! There is no excuse you can come up with that I have not heard before. At 4AM if you tell me you have to leave because your child is in the hospital, or your mother got hit by a car or your friend was locked up by the police, then I will only pay you ST not TLN!" You don't have to be a dick, you can say it with a big smile on your face and you both can laugh about it.
I agree with Mind Bender, pay her in front of hotel staff / security. To add to that, if there was a problem and she is very angry about her pay. I would advocate that you take off for a couple of hours. Go to After 1 or go grab a bite to eat. That way if she returns with the police, you won't be there and by the time you return, they will have left.I think it's best to deal only with chicas with whom you have a strong rapport. I try to avoid the older or more "hardened" looking ones. It is a good idea to let them know the game upfront and that your needs come first.
My oh my. My oh my.
Sosua. An extremely long way down from the 70s.
Sosua was discovered in the early 70s by adventurous European travelers, keen on learning local culture and enjoying the lush nature.
Fraternity reigned, hotels cost 1 dollar a night, people could sleep on beaches unmolested.
You could travel the whole country on a hundred dollar budget, making genuine friends in the process.
Creative thinkers gathered there, you could meet extraordinary people from all over the world.
If you wanted a girl, it was a matter of smiles, and most of the times you would end up meeting her family, and be treated like family.
A few miles East, windsurfers started perfecting their craft.
Today, the horror of the ghetto brothel was brought to Sosua. You would not wish it to any place. Gorillas in ghetto rags roam the streets, heavy on drugs and alcohol.
What a bitter end. Sosuans did not deserve to be brought to hell. Maybe budget sequestration will take care of that.
Hillbilly69
04-02-13, 11:48
my oh my. my oh my.
sosua. an extremely long way down from the 70s.
sosua was discovered in the early 70s by adventurous european travelers, keen on learning local culture and enjoying the lush nature.
fraternity reigned, hotels cost 1 dollar a night, people could sleep on beaches unmolested.
you could travel the whole country on a hundred dollar budget, making genuine friends in the process.
creative thinkers gathered there, you could meet extraordinary people from all over the world.
if you wanted a girl, it was a matter of smiles, and most of the times you would end up meeting her family, and be treated like family.
a few miles east, windsurfers started perfecting their craft.
today, the horror of the ghetto brothel was brought to sosua. you would not wish it to any place. gorillas in ghetto rags roam the streets, heavy on drugs and alcohol.
what a bitter end. sosuans did not deserve to be brought to hell. maybe budget sequestration will take care of that.do a kindegarden round.up (sign up 6 year old dominicans for elementary school) you will find those kids playing naked twister with one of those wonderful white guys you love so much back in his condo, maybe you saw the california white guy that was [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) the shoe shine boys? he was on front page of dominican today for a while. they want the aa's to go so they can molest in peace. it's common knowledge the world's biggest **** lives in sosua, what you think he is doing there? writing a book for amazon (a ****s guide to los charmicos)?
I probably should have held my ground. While far from fluent, I spoke enough espanol for her understand thst I was pissed she wasnt honoring the agreement. She didn't know, but I was leaving in the morning. I thought ahout the terra linda incidenet and decided it wasnt worth the trouble. My only bad experience of the trip.
I have been trying to tell guys this for a while now. Tell these chicas upfront that you will not fall for the ookey doke move! You don't have to be an asshole about it, in fact, you can make it fun and have a good laugh at the same time. After getting to know her name, age, where she is front, etc. With a big smile on your face ask her "How is your dog? Did he run away today? Did your cow die this afternoon? Is your mom having a leg transplant tonight?". She will probably look at you and say "What are you talking about? Are you crazy?"
At that point just start laughing and explain that you are just joking with her. Tell her "Listen, I have heard every excuse in the book! There is no excuse you can come up with that I have not heard before. At 4AM if you tell me you have to leave because your child is in the hospital, or your mother got hit by a car or your friend was locked up by the police, then I will only pay you ST not TLN!" You don't have to be a dick, you can say it with a big smile on your face and you both can laugh about it.
I agree with Mind Bender, pay her in front of hotel staff / security. To add to that, if there was a problem and she is very angry about her pay. I would advocate that you take off for a couple of hours. Go to After 1 or go grab a bite to eat. That way if she returns with the police, you won't be there and by the time you return, they will have left.
I like to get my girls warmed up before I bang them. I find that if they are having fun they treat you better. I have them take a shower then I breakout the baby oil. I am a fan Of massage porn. I practice my skills with the girls. I BReakout the baby oil and rub their entire body front and back. 15 minutes of this the pussy wet and girls very relaxed. Another10 minutes with my toys and she is puddy in my hands. When we are finished we are both smiling. They almost forget to ask for their money (NOT). Often the girls are really tired. If they fall asleep all holes are open jajajaaj.
Manizales911
04-02-13, 23:03
I probably should have held my ground. While far from fluent, I spoke enough espanol for her understand thst I was pissed she wasnt honoring the agreement. She didn't know, but I was leaving in the morning. I thought ahout the terra linda incidenet and decided it wasnt worth the trouble. My only bad experience of the trip.You did the right thing BrotherP, you said it yourself, it's not worth the trouble. That said, it sucks because the girls know this and know that the majority of the time they can pull this shit and get away with it but it doesn't change the fact that if she decides to call her chulo who's best friend is a cop you would wish you had just given her the money and chalk it up to the price of doing business.
Tempoecorto
04-02-13, 23:41
they want the aa's to go so they can molest in peace. it's common knowledge the world's biggest **** lives in sosua,oh, come on! i do not think a particular kind of preference is ascribable to an ethnic group. i would think all groups are equal opportunity of such matters. btw, i first thought you were referring to alcoholics anonymous, on my first read. lol!
Nine days in Sosua. 3/22 to3/31. A good trip. Lots of girls and lots of laughs. Meet some cool guys this trip. Didn't see alot of the girls I saw in Dec, but there were plenty. The number went down after good Friday. Paid between 1500&2000 for short term. Between 2000$3000 TLN. Got a tln for 2000 from a chica I did previously, it was around 2 am. Not easy but can be done. Most girls were good performers, I might be getting better at picking. 3 chicas offered to go sin condom for a propina. That was new for me. Didn't partake. Had drama the last night. After a great performance the chica wanted to leave, but be paid the tln rate of 3000. After a big argument I just paid her. Didn't need the drama.
Hotel Casa Cayena. Decent hotel. Room was decent. Included breakfast was great. Wilfreds a great guy. No issues with the safe, but kept my cash in a real estate key lock box.
Didn't see anybody make it rain but I see guys getting the "VIP" at dlatins. WTF? All you need is 3000 pesos max. My point is I can see Sosua changing, probably for the worse. Didn't make it to Santiago to meet any of the girls from online, too much going on in sosua. That's all folks!The chica that wanted to leave early. What time did you get her, and how much time did she spend with you before she wanted to leave? Was there anything about her that gave you a hint that she wasnt staying the whole night? Anything at all?
My oh my. My oh my.
Sosua. An extremely long way down from the 70s.
Sosua was discovered in the early 70s by adventurous European travelers, keen on learning local culture and enjoying the lush nature.
Fraternity reigned, hotels cost 1 dollar a night, people could sleep on beaches unmolested.
You could travel the whole country on a hundred dollar budget, making genuine friends in the process.
Creative thinkers gathered there, you could meet extraordinary people from all over the world.
If you wanted a girl, it was a matter of smiles, and most of the times you would end up meeting her family, and be treated like family.
A few miles East, windsurfers started perfecting their craft.
Today, the horror of the ghetto brothel was brought to Sosua. You would not wish it to any place. Gorillas in ghetto rags roam the streets, heavy on drugs and alcohol.
What a bitter end. Sosuans did not deserve to be brought to hell. Maybe budget sequestration will take care of that.Who pissed in your beer? Things change, get used to it. Or better yet, find another place.
I probably should have held my ground. While far from fluent, I spoke enough espanol for her understand thst I was pissed she wasnt honoring the agreement. She didn't know, but I was leaving in the morning. I thought ahout the terra linda incidenet and decided it wasnt worth the trouble. My only bad experience of the trip.To be honest, I would have done the same damn thing! If I wanted conflict, I would still be married.
Did you by any chance tell her that it was your last night in town? That alone may have cause the chica to be more daring.
Either way, get her the hell out of the room at a small cost, as far as I'm concerned. Yes, there are many critics that might say hold your ground, but at what cost?
I agree with Manizales' assessment as well.
The chica that wanted to leave early. What time did you get her, and how much time did she spend with you before she wanted to leave? Was there anything about her that gave you a hint that she wasnt staying the whole night? Anything at all?Yeah. We got to the room, talked a bit, and we both showered. During the blow job she stop and asked for "my money". I told her I'd pay her in the morning. That was a red flag, but we were already in the bed. She stayed about an hour and a half and she made sure I came. No. I didn't tell her it was my last night. Looking back, I did rush out of tge club with her. It was late, I wanted to get laid and sleep. I could have interviewed her better. All in all, one bad chica doesn't ruin an otherwise great trip.
Ath Trainer
04-03-13, 11:21
Yeah. We got to the room, talked a bit, and we both showered. During the blow job she stop and asked for "my money". I told her I'd pay her in the morning. That was a red flag, but we were already in the bed. She stayed about an hour and a half and she made sure I came. No. I didn't tell her it was my last night. Looking back, I did rush out of tge club with her. It was late, I wanted to get laid and sleep. I could have interviewed her better. All in all, one bad chica doesn't ruin an otherwise great trip.I know we don't want chicas learning they can pull this trick on us, but from a financial aspect, were talking pennies. You were arguing over the difference between a st and a tln, not the whole tlm cost. St service was provided. Thats one of the nice things about sosua is if you catch a bad chica, don't waste your leche on her. Throw her back and go get another.
Charles Pooter
04-03-13, 14:14
Today, the horror of the ghetto brothel was brought to Sosua. You would not wish it to any place. Gorillas in ghetto rags roam the streets, heavy on drugs and alcohol.Have you ever considered a career in the diplomatic service?
The Mind Bender
04-03-13, 19:25
Yeah. We got to the room, talked a bit, and we both showered. During the blow job she stop and asked for "my money". I told her I'd pay her in the morning. That was a red flag, but we were already in the bed. She stayed about an hour and a half and she made sure I came. No. I didn't tell her it was my last night. Looking back, I did rush out of tge club with her. It was late, I wanted to get laid and sleep. I could have interviewed her better. All in all, one bad chica doesn't ruin an otherwise great trip.Did she have a ton of makeup on? Maybe a catsuit?
That asking for cash thing is definitely a red flag, she wants to fuck you and get out of there as soon as possible.
I fell for that once before but never again.
PS. She did that in the middle of a blowjob? LOL
Did she have a ton of makeup on? Maybe a catsuit?
That asking for cash thing is definitely a red flag, she wants to fuck you and get out of there as soon as possible.
I fell for that once before but never again.
PS. She did that in the middle of a blowjob? LOLYes. She stopped blowing me and asked for" my money"
Yes. She stopped blowing me and asked for" my money"With an ass like that who can blame you?
All in all, one bad chica doesn't ruin an otherwise great trip.You didn't say what hour you got her, just that it was late. I was just curious because I wonder why she was anxious to leave when it was already so late? Maybe she promised some other dude in town that she would come by that night / morning? However, no doubt Brother P. One bad chica / experience doesn't ruin a trip. Thanks for the feedback.
Mr Enternational
04-03-13, 22:11
I probably should have held my ground. While far from fluent, I spoke enough espanol for her understand thst I was pissed she wasnt honoring the agreement.I'm no expert, but she appears to be Haitian to me. If so,"I told y'all about messing with those damn Haitians!"
You didn't say what hour you got her, just that it was late. I was just curious because I wonder why she was anxious to leave when it was already so late? Maybe she promised some other dude in town that she would come by that night / morning?If your boss gave you your regular paycheck and did not insist you stay the full time that the job required would you be breaking your neck to stay at work? Hell no. You would get out of there as fast as you could. Newsflash: A hooker is in it for the money. And once she has what she came for there is no need to stay. Get your head out of fantasyland. She doesn't love you. She loves that money that you are giving her.
The Mind Bender
04-03-13, 22:37
Yes. She stopped blowing me and asked for" my money"No bad looking at all.
Yeah she's a super pro, all about money and efficiency.
I've found you can tell a lot about a chica from the way she carries herself
Charles Pooter
04-03-13, 22:58
I'm no expert, but she appears to be Haitian to me.She doesn't look the slightest bit Haitian to me and I have been with hundreds of them. Now of course she could be Haitian but that doesn't really affect the principle. Once haitianas have been on the game for a few weeks or months in Sosua they will become Dominicanized and act the same as dominicanas. So if you want the "benefits" of taking a haitiana you need one who is reasonably fresh to the DR or fresh to the game (preferably both). And they won't look like this. Plus speaking fluent Spanish is another giveaway. Bad money always drives out good.
She doesn't look the slightest bit Haitian to me and I have been with hundreds of them. Now of course she could be Haitian but that doesn't really affect the principle. Once haitianas have been on the game for a few weeks or months in Sosua they will become Dominicanized and act the same as dominicanas. So if you want the "benefits" of taking a haitiana you need one who is reasonably fresh to the DR or fresh to the game (preferably both). And they won't look like this. Plus speaking fluent Spanish is another giveaway. Bad money always drives out good.There is a Haitian girl called Judy who lives in Charamicos who looks a bit like this, but like you say it doesn't make much difference once they have become Dominicanized.
I don't know why guys want to do these toda la noche deals with chicas they don't know. It is just asking to get ripped off, and the imagined whole night of passionate lovemaking probably won't happen unless there is real chemistry.
I think it would be better to take them for short time and then convert to toda la noche later if both parties are agreeable and she shows no desire to depart.
Remember that many girls may sign up for toda la noche with every intention of converting the agreement once the deed is done. Often this may be because they cannot afford to turn down a customer even if they have other commitments like children that mean they cannot stay all night. (For example mom or sister may be babysitting junior, but perhaps mom has to leave home at 6:30 a. M. To go to her own job.)
I'm no expert, but she appears to be Haitian to me. If so,"I told why'all about messing with those damn Haitians!"
If your boss gave you your regular paycheck and did not insist you stay the full time that the job required would you be breaking your neck to stay at work? Hell no. You would get out of there as fast as you could. Newsflash: A hooker is in it for the money. And once she has what she came for there is no need to stay. Get your head out of fantasyland. She doesn't love you. She loves that money that you are giving her.she's dominican, not haitian. I've had good service from the haitianas. Theres no newsflash. I know these hos don't love me. The contract was simply for her to stay the night and give me BBBJ and covered full service in the morning. Love never discussed.
There is a Haitian girl called Judy who lives in Charamicos who looks a bit like this, but like you say it doesn't make much difference once they have become Dominicanized.
I don't know why guys want to do these toda la noche deals with chicas they don't know. It is just asking to get ripped off, and the imagined whole night of passionate lovemaking probably won't happen unless there is real chemistry.
I think it would be better to take them for short time and then convert to toda la noche later if both parties are agreeable and she shows no desire to depart.
Remember that many girls may sign up for toda la noche with every intention of converting the agreement once the deed is done. Often this may be because they cannot afford to turn down a customer even if they have other commitments like children that mean they cannot stay all night. (For example mom or sister may be babysitting junior, but perhaps mom has to leave home at 6:30 am To go to her own job.) you're correct. The best TLNs have been with women with whom I've had good st sessions with. Lesson learned! LOL!
There is a Haitian girl called Judy who lives in Charamicos who looks a bit like this, but like you say it doesn't make much difference once they have become Dominicanized.
I don't know why guys want to do these toda la noche deals with chicas they don't know. It is just asking to get ripped off, and the imagined whole night of passionate lovemaking probably won't happen unless there is real chemistry.
I think it would be better to take them for short time and then convert to toda la noche later if both parties are agreeable and she shows no desire to depart.
Remember that many girls may sign up for toda la noche with every intention of converting the agreement once the deed is done. Often this may be because they cannot afford to turn down a customer even if they have other commitments like children that mean they cannot stay all night. (For example mom or sister may be babysitting junior, but perhaps mom has to leave home at 6:30 am To go to her own job.) This is great advice and in fact has become a mongering rule of mine. Do not do a TLN with a chica unless you've tested her out first with a short-time encounter. That holds true whether she's a Passions chica or a chica off of Pedro Clisante. This rule will save you alot of wasted time, money, and headache.
Ipanema Carioca
04-04-13, 12:34
Yes. She stopped blowing me and asked for" my money"Put the hoe on blast. I haven't had such been luck but it could happen to any of us. Some of the hoes in Sosua are slick bitches and have to much game. The is no magic pattern on how a hoe will behave. My last trip I met a haitiana in front of Rumba bar and she knows all the haitianas. I fucked her every other night and only gave her money when she road the bus with me to Santiago on to catch my flight because she lived there. Apparently her sister has a shop and she stayed to run the shop and maintain their raggedy ass apartment. She and another girl used the apartment to change close and they had family on one of the back street upstair apartment that was ok except for the flies going in and out of the place. Hence, she acted very GFE, and spent the night then left every morning. After a few days there I chilled like a local and so her when I wanted. She gave no pressure for money. I gave 3, 000 pesos when the cab we took from Carib Tours station to STI dropped me off. She got one kid in Santiago and her brother and sister called her every night to leave Sosua and go home to Santiago to mind her kid. This was Dec 2012 and I have talked to her since, because I lave each trip behind and prepare for the new adventure for the next trip. The girl in this picture probably wouldn't fuck with because she looks to much like a cheap hoe. Just my opinion. A girl who looks like her has been in the game too long and can be trouble.
Suggestion: Always go short-term with the hoes until you know what you're dealing with. The problem is the old ass Europeans and Americans are short time fucks and sometimes pass out from too much drinking and spoil these hoes with maximum pay for minimum work. And alot of the girls are their not to make a fortune but to pay for their party time with their friends and only need a few thousand pesos. I think some of us get the "pay house bill hoes" mixed up with the young "party hoes". But when a hoe pulls bull shit like this, then put the hoe on blast. This is why photos come in handy.
Ath Trainer
04-04-13, 14:38
Does the time you go to your room with a chica for st make a difference as to whether or not you will get rushed?
If you go with a girl early, she wants to finish as soon as possible, so she can get back out there, and get another date. If you go to your room later, she's not in a hurry to find another guy, and will be less rushed.
Your thoughts.
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