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Centurion200
07-31-19, 22:02
Staying in Cascadas for the first time, and found that channel 12-1 of the room TV shows a feed of the big racetrack shaped stage near the back f the club.
Place is almost empty (1400 local time). More meseros than customers (ugh), but they certainly have some lovely girls. I'm an early bird, anyway, so heading out.
Agree, even when I am sitting at a table I will walk to the bartenders upstairs and deal with them directly, this includes when I buy girls drinks. Once I cut out the waiters I real started enjoying HK even more, they just puss me off most of the time.My last straw with the waiters resulted from a recent incident where a HK waiter insisted 3 times that I buy a tray snack for a chica. I actually said No 3 times and he would not take no for an answer. We ended up in a stare-down and he would not leave. WTF? Finally the chica I was with lost her temper and yelled at him to Fuck himself. Unbelievable that a HK waiter was strong-arming me to buy a snack. Because the HK manager was obviously too busy fucking some boy upstairs, he was unable to manage his crew. And the waiters have taken over. And hence I am done tipping the waiters.
Long Don Silva
08-01-19, 06:15
Because the HK manager was obviously too busy fucking some boy upstairsWait, what? Seriously, WTF?
This may have been asked several times on here but from my previous experience going here I have had a tough time finding girls to do BBBJ even if I offer to pay more. Is their a correct approach? Is their a specific term to use that I am unaware of?
My last straw with the waiters resulted from a recent incident where a HK waiter insisted 3 times that I buy a tray snack for a chica. I actually said No 3 times and he would not take no for an answer. We ended up in a stare-down and he would not leave. WTF? Finally the chica I was with lost her temper and yelled at him to Fuck himself. Unbelievable that a HK waiter was strong-arming me to buy a snack. Because the HK manager was obviously too busy fucking some boy upstairs, he was unable to manage his crew. And the waiters have taken over. And hence I am done tipping the waiters.According to numerous posts, the management at HK is relatively reasonable when it comes to complaints. How hard did you try to pry him away from his boyfriend?
OrganicAlo
08-01-19, 16:33
According to numerous posts, the management at HK is relatively reasonable when it comes to complaints. How hard did you try to pry him away from his boyfriend?I had a problem with a chica on Monday night after paying first.
LOL, was a funny incident, HK manager offered me 2 free drinks for the problems.
Mr Fahrenheit
08-01-19, 20:41
It only really depends of the girl. One thing to know is that some girls will not give BBBJ no matter how much extra you offer, they usually won't offer GFE as well. Best to cut your losses when with them on move on.
I have gotten BBBJ, COF and CIM with HK girls. Things that works for me.
- Been clean and well groomed. When I ask the girls what kind of guys they don't like, they all usually will say guys who smell bad. If you already have BO when a girl is sitting next to you, they will immediately think blow the belt is even worse.
- Same thing with being well groomed. Fix your hair and facial hair too. This will give the impression that you are also well groomed down below. Just make sure you actually have done some manscaping.
- Try taking them up a second time. This is usually when I get COF or CIM if I didn't get the first time. Since I already have taken them up before, I'll just ask them.
If you want COF you might have to wait, until the end of their shift, since they don't want to reply their makeup. Some of the girls have told me they have women in the backrooms who apply makeup and hair extensions for them. Which they also have to tip, so they would rather wait until the end of the shift to take a COF.
This may have been asked several times on here but from my previous experience going here I have had a tough time finding girls to do BBBJ even if I offer to pay more. Is their a correct approach? Is their a specific term to use that I am unaware of?
KC Questor
08-01-19, 23:18
This may have been asked several times on here but from my previous experience going here I have had a tough time finding girls to do BBBJ even if I offer to pay more. Is their a correct approach? Is their a specific term to use that I am unaware of?No special term. You just have to ask for it in advance and make sure the girl knows it's a dealbreaker. I've turned away lots of girls who are all good to go until I say "oral natural" or "oral sin condom"? If they say no, then it's goodbye. I won't try to pay her more for it -- except a street girl where per "item" pricing is the norm.
No special term. You just have to ask for it in advance and make sure the girl knows it's a dealbreaker. I've turned away lots of girls who are all good to go until I say "oral natural" or "oral sin condom"? If they say no, then it's goodbye. I won't try to pay her more for it -- except a street girl where per "item" pricing is the norm.I've been there a couple of times and only 2 girls have offered BBBJ. The rest either want more or have flat out denied.
Back alley till the jaw hurts.
No special term. You just have to ask for it in advance and make sure the girl knows it's a dealbreaker. I've turned away lots of girls who are all good to go until I say "oral natural" or "oral sin condom"? If they say no, then it's goodbye. I won't try to pay her more for it -- except a street girl where per "item" pricing is the norm.
It only really depends of the girl. One thing to know is that some girls will not give BBBJ no matter how much extra you offer, they usually won't offer GFE as well. Best to cut your losses when with them on move on.
I have gotten BBBJ, COF and CIM with HK girls. Things that works for me.
- Been clean and well groomed. When I ask the girls what kind of guys they don't like, they all usually will say guys who smell bad. If you already have BO when a girl is sitting next to you, they will immediately think blow the belt is even worse.
- Same thing with being well groomed. Fix your hair and facial hair too. This will give the impression that you are also well groomed down below. Just make sure you actually have done some manscaping.
- Try taking them up a second time. This is usually when I get COF or CIM if I didn't get the first time. Since I already have taken them up before, I'll just ask them.
If you want COF you might have to wait, until the end of their shift, since they don't want to reply their makeup. Some of the girls have told me they have women in the backrooms who apply makeup and hair extensions for them. Which they also have to tip, so they would rather wait until the end of the shift to take a COF.Showering first also helps. It shows cleanliness.
BTW never get cum in a chica's hair. They get madder than hell for that and will hold it against you forever. It's like spitting on their kids or something.
KC Questor
08-02-19, 04:31
I've been there a couple of times and only 2 girls have offered BBBJ. The rest either want more or have flat out denied.We've had different experiences in that area. I have about a 75% success rate. Maybe we are drawn to different types of women?
Hi all,
I'm coming to Hong Kong 5 Aug.
I need to know what is the best massage parlor provide HJ service and have cute face girls even if expensive (I'm searching for high class only). Hope you can help me.
Health card girls are more aware of the issues related to sex practice. Yes could turn to no in the room. Misunderstanding?
We've had different experiences in that area. I have about a 75% success rate. Maybe we are drawn to different types of women?
We've had different experiences in that area. I have about a 75% success rate. Maybe we are drawn to different types of women?That may be the case, I am quite picky. Maybe I should aim for the 6's-7's instead unless there is secret club where 8-10's offer BBBJ.
Hi all,
I'm coming to Hong Kong 5 Aug.
I need to know what is the best massage parlor provide HJ service and have cute face girls even if expensive (I'm searching for high class only). Hope you can help me.Wrong thread and wrong country, chief. This it's Mexico. You want Asia.
Dora was dancing at the lower bar stage. Couple of $ 1 trip and small beer 180 peso ($10). 1 HR $90. Good thing I did bathroom processing and shower 12 minutes. Limited GFE but friendly. Watched videos too. Likes to talk nothing dramatic. Hotel $31/ HR. No VIP card. Standard $1 tips 3, including condom and gel ($1). Quiet a variety to consider and direct contact with Dora. No natural.
Health card girls are more aware of the issues related to sex practice. Yes could turn to no in the room. Misunderstanding?
ScatManDoo
08-02-19, 18:03
Hi all,
I'm coming to Hong Kong 5 Aug.
I need to know what is the best massage parlor provide HJ service and have cute face girls even if expensive (I'm searching for high class only). Hope you can help me.
Wrong thread and wrong country, chief. This it's Mexico. You want Asia.When he wrote that he was searching for "high class only" I knew that I had no good advice for him.
Mr Fahrenheit
08-02-19, 20:50
Showering first also helps. It shows cleanliness.
BTW never get cum in a chica's hair. They get madder than hell for that and will hold it against you forever. It's like spitting on their kids or something.LOL, I always have a towel that I wrapped the head around or I bring extra shower caps so it doesn't get in their hair. COF in real life is not like porn. There's prep work for it.
Centurion200
08-02-19, 23:25
Just finished a session with this stunner.
Went into HK around two, planning to pace myself and find the perfect chica for the last day of my stay. She appeared before I had finished my second beer. (Fuck those meseros, guys. I only order from the bartender now. Of course, have to get the fichas through them, but that's OK).
Irene jumped up to dance right on top of me in the back bar, and I knew right away I had to have her. In the strange light of the bar, I thought she looked like Jennifer Connelly, circa 1990. Gorgeous dark eyes, and those brows!, fine features, long black hair. When we got outside and up to the room though, she was more young Monica Bellucci.
All natural beautiful breasts, no tattoos! No piercings! Clean, long legged beauty with light skin. Flat stomach, superb rear end. Enthusiastic partner, or perhaps an excellent actress, but I don't care! Excellent English to boot. 26 yo. This girl is probably the most beautiful I've ever been with, and I'm kind of old. I'm not Brad Pitt, but I'm no Elephant Man either.
Asked for $80, tipped her $10. I'm over the moon. Going to get some chow and a few more beers now.
KC Questor
08-03-19, 01:41
That may be the case, I am quite picky. Maybe I should aim for the 6's-7's instead unless there is secret club where 8-10's offer BBBJ.My last trip the wingman I was hanging with was NOT impressed by the kind of girls I like. I like big, natural tits and big, natural hips, and he kept saying "Dude, she's fat! I'm like, "Naw, chubby girls are way more fun. " Back home it's a given that fat girls give the best head, right? I am not looking for BBWs, but I like a curvy girl and they usually have no problem with BBBJ.
Long Don Silva
08-03-19, 02:53
Back home it's a given that fat girls give the best head, right?Indeed it is, KCQ. Indeed, it is.
LovesToSploog
08-03-19, 07:25
Here you go, this is the correct place to look: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?234-Hong-Kong.
Hi all,
I'm coming to Hong Kong 5 Aug.
I need to know what is the best massage parlor provide HJ service and have cute face girls even if expensive (I'm searching for high class only). Hope you can help me.
First time at HK and the amount of model looking girls is surreal. All of the fun and excitement hampered when you find out the best looking ones all want 100 for everything covered, no GFE. Otherwise the rest were much more willing to negotiate.
Made reservation request online for Hotel Cascadas about 5 days ago but have not received any confirmation contact yet. Do they actually contact you? I also used my Google Voice #, maybe that's the problem?
This is what their website says: A representative will contact you shortly to provide availability for the night (s) requested.
Captain Solo
08-03-19, 22:18
She told me Cici from Micoacan, but labeled her contact as Kitty, whatever. She was a very nice, sexy, horny nymph, tall with curly blonde hair, pretty face, light skin, beautiful body, long legs, natural be boobs, no tats, perfect for my taste. She looked dreamy like Marilyn Monroe, with the same beauty mark on her left chin, but skinnier, a very nice, pretty, beautiful girl, smiling dreamily with her pretty eyes and sexy mouth, giggling pleasantly like a little girl, speaks some English and aims to please.
She's tall, about 5'7 without heels. Her body is nice, tight with soft skin, about perfect without tattoos or baby damages, Seeing her tall, beautiful body on the sheet with a sexy grin on her face, I could not wait to get started, hurriedly sucking on her lips while fingering her coochie. She responded with her kiss, guiding my fingers to the right spot on her clit, whimpering in pleasure. She stopped, asked me to "shower" my hands before we continued. Got back to bed, sucking on her tits while fingering her clit furiously. The harder I sucked, the louder she was moaning. I got down to her crotch, clean shaven with some stubbles. She smelled nice, clean, sexy.
We had a long session in various positions. She was doing a CG, leaning down, sucking on my mouth and my tongue. I got on top of her, driving hard into her crotch, squeezing her body tight, sucking her mouth hard. She responded with passion, sometimes hanging tight onto my waist, bucking her hips with lots of aural feedback This hot girl just knows how to deliver love and sex in the most natural and loving ways, delicious to have in bed.
After the first pop, she kissed me lovingly on my mouth, face and chest. She acted like a horny GF grateful for a hot session. She gave me a CBJ for the second round, but I was exhausted and could not raise an erection. We called it quit after over an hour in bed. She took a shower of her lower body and urged me to do the same. She had agreed on my standard offer, but I gave her a big propina for being a very nice, sweet, sexy, loving girl. She said she's 25 and looked it, denied having a novio. We walked back to Hong Kong with arms holding each other tight like a young couple deeply in love.
She did a stripping routine on Pista Sul, but did not get the green showers like others. The crowd definitely preferred heavier and curvier strippers with rains of 20 to 30 bills each from the balcony. But who knows? Some of those rains may be prearranged to boost the strippers' ego hehe. She was dancing on the bar, then sitting on the stool. I could not resist her sweet, pretty face, again squeezed a propina into her bras, kissing her lips. My wingman hit on her, but she wanted a higher figure.
She said she would be working next week, so I might get her again in the VIP Stripper show on Wednesday May 22. This girl gave very hot and satisfying sex in bed, satisfied all my lusty needs, worth the drive South.
Captain Solo
08-03-19, 22:20
Thursday night had a big seafood dinner at Mariscos El Choforo near the cathedral, a 55-peso small shrimp coctele, the 65-peso combo special with a quesadilla, shrimp, octopus and cheese wrapped in a thin, chewy crepe with a cup of consomme and a soda. The food was delicious, really filled me up, felt good but sexually de-energized by the packed stomach. Washed down with a couple beers in HK and walked the bar block a couple times to digest the food.
Still did not feel so hot sexually so had a session with a familiar street girl to check out the sex drive. She managed to raise a half-way decent erection, but the session was weak and lame without much energy and passion.
Hang out in HK waiting for the wingmen. HK had lots of the hottest girls working Thursday night. Selection was much better than Tuesday. Nearing time to go home, went in HK to make the last round, found Kitty AKA Cici sitting at bar Kowloon in her pink bikini with her new frizzy pink hair. She's a girly girl, what can I say hehe?
She flashed a smile. I stopped to give her propinas into her pink bra. Her boobs were bouncy with tiny tits. I got closer to inspect her boobs, she started kissing my mouth. She was smiling and giggling, speaking softly with her squeaky voice like a little girl. Her hand started groping my dick. Soon our mouths were engaging in hot DFKs and our hands were all over doing liberal groping. A mesero butted in proposing a ficha but I just shooed him away. I thought I completely ran out of ammo for the night but her pretty charms and her sexy groping, stroking produced a bulge in my pants which I could not ignore. Made my standard offer to her which she nodded, smiling happily. We headed upstairs to Cascada, holding each other like lovers, kissing and groping each other in the elevator hehe.
She took a good shower of her lower body before the session. I helped dry her back and her butt to quickly get her in bed. My dick was already engorged. I laid her out in bed. She looked good, smelled good, felt good. We were DFKing. I kissed her all over her body, sucking on her tits while rubbing on her clit and her coochie. She was squirming, gasping, guiding my fingers to the rights spots. Soon her other hand was stroking my dick. I got turned on red hot, had a strong hard on with this sexy girl, could not delay penetrating her.
She gave me a complete GFE treatment. Her coochie was wet. I spent a lot of time and effort trying to penetrate, but could only get the head in. Finally she put some lube on my dick and I was able to fully penetrate her. We had a hot time. I was pretty exhausted at the end, laying back in bed, panting. We cuddled each other a while. She could speak passable English, said from Michoacan, lives in Tijuana, has no novios or ninos, works 2 PM to midnight Thurs, Sat and Sunday. She's not shy and loves to pose nude. I took a few pics before and after the session. She was in no rush, took another long shower after.
Had a hot session with her like a real GF, but if my dick falls off in a week, you will hear about it.
Long Don Silva
08-04-19, 09:19
Made reservation request online for Hotel Cascadas about 5 days ago but have not received any confirmation contact yet. Do they actually contact you? I also used my Google Voice #, maybe that's the problem?
This is what their website says: A representative will contact you shortly to provide availability for the night (s) requested.Have you checked your junk and spam folders? If not, give that a try.
TerOnlyOnce
08-04-19, 18:08
Going to Tijuana for my second time next week. First time I went I did 2 nights and banged 7 girls. Wrote a very detailed report and posted it here. This second trip I'm planning 3 nights and I think I will end up banging at least 10-11 girls. It will be a mix of bar girls and street girls. I really want to try out the escorts but almost all the girls I see on the agency websites, I don't like them. In my opinion they look very plain and average, no bubble butts, no huge tits, etc. I tried using the independent escorts as well but it's hard to confirm a date with these girls. They flake, ghost, don't respond, etc.
I plan to write a full report of the second trip once it's done, I'll be bringing my laptop to document each night. I'm looking for strictly hot chicas that really turn me on, no average or decent girls. My particular type is instagram thicc bubble butts, very slim waists, and very thick thighs. I also really enjoy massive tits, H cups or bigger, I will be hard pressed to find that in the zona though.
The plan is to bang a decent amount of extremely bubble butt girls from the bars at night, and during the day prowling the streets in search for massive titty girls, if I can find any. My first trip I did find one girl by luck. When I saw her walking the block in stripper clothing and her huge tits spilling out I quickly dashed towards her as fast as I could. She started going up the stairs into a hotel building but I followed after her and stopped her right on the stairway. That's how hungry I was, couldn't let that get away. We negotiated I think like $40 for 40 minutes? That's another thing, for this second trip I'm going to exchange $100 for pesos before I cross the border and reserve it strictly for fucking street girls. The big tit girl was willing to accept something stupid low like 400 pesos for 40 minutes but I didn't have it at the time. I could essentially double how many street girls I fuck if I pay using pesos so going to stock up ahead of time.
Aviator400
08-04-19, 18:47
Made reservation request online for Hotel Cascadas about 5 days ago but have not received any confirmation contact yet. Do they actually contact you? I also used my Google Voice #, maybe that's the problem?
This is what their website says: A representative will contact you shortly to provide availability for the night (s) requested.On rare occasions they fail to reply. Missed replying once to one of my reservations. Human error as the result of a very busy week.
GringoSlim
08-05-19, 04:05
When I was checking in a guy tried talking me into buying a VIP membership. I was only staying one night and did not think that I would be able to make it back. I told him that and I think that I set myself up. When I checked out they said that I drank three beers from the mini bar. There was no beer in there to begin with. They kept $25.00 of my deposit. I was to big of a wimp to argue with anyone in Tijuana. Lesson learned.
I did one girl from Hong Kong and one from Bar Tropical. I think one thing that disqualifies a girl from working at HK and going to BT is the baby damage. They can hide it better with what they were at BT. My 7 from BT gave a better effort than the dead fish of a 10 I got from HK. Everyone pretty much says this on the board, but I had to be a sucker for a big ass with no hail damage. She was lame, but the girl with the baby damage tried a bit harder and was cheaper.
Lessons learned.
OrganicAlo
08-05-19, 15:00
When I was checking in a guy tried talking me into buying a VIP membership. I was only staying one night and did not think that I would be able to make it back. I told him that and I think that I set myself up. When I checked out they said that I drank three beers from the mini bar. There was no beer in there to begin with. They kept $25.00 of my deposit. I was to big of a wimp to argue with anyone in Tijuana. Lesson learned.
I did one girl from Hong Kong and one from Bar Tropical. I think one thing that disqualifies a girl from working at HK and going to BT is the baby damage. They can hide it better with what they were at BT. My 7 from BT gave a better effort than the dead fish of a 10 I got from HK. Everyone pretty much says this on the board, but I had to be a sucker for a big ass with no hail damage. She was lame, but the girl with the baby damage tried a bit harder and was cheaper.
Lessons learned.That sucks, did you leave a propina for the cleanup boys? They should've only taken 12 $ for the 3 beers tho.
Aviator400
08-05-19, 16:55
When I was checking in a guy tried talking me into buying a VIP membership. I was only staying one night and did not think that I would be able to make it back. I told him that and I think that I set myself up. When I checked out they said that I drank three beers from the mini bar. There was no beer in there to begin with. They kept $25.00 of my deposit. I was to big of a wimp to argue with anyone in Tijuana. Lesson learned.
I did one girl from Hong Kong and one from Bar Tropical. I think one thing that disqualifies a girl from working at HK and going to BT is the baby damage. They can hide it better with what they were at BT. My 7 from BT gave a better effort than the dead fish of a 10 I got from HK. Everyone pretty much says this on the board, but I had to be a sucker for a big ass with no hail damage. She was lame, but the girl with the baby damage tried a bit harder and was cheaper.
Lessons learned.I have had them claim that I drank from the mini bar when I had zero. I pushed back and they reneged quickly. (I rarely drink at all and never beer.) I have to wonder if maybe the guys that check the room report beer missing, and if the client lets it go like you did, they take the beer for themselves. I check the bar when I first enter the room and take a picture of it with my phone. Sometimes the girls will drink from the mini bar with my permission.
Thursday night had a big seafood dinner at Mariscos El Choforo near the cathedral, a 55-peso small shrimp coctele, the 65-peso combo special with a quesadilla, shrimp, octopus and cheese wrapped in a thin, chewy crepe with a cup of consomme and a soda. The food was delicious, really filled me up, felt good but sexually de-energized by the packed stomach. Washed down with a couple beers in HK and walked the bar block a couple times to digest the food.Proper food combination is essential to generate energy. Protein with protein, no carbs. Little to no liquid, or just enough to wash food down and not dilute digestion. No oil, nothing fried, no dairy. Mariscos are a great source of energy, but stay away from cheese and tortillas at the same time, and go easy on the beer. This way it's much more satisfying to pig out after fucking your brains out.
I also took a picture of the mini fridge contents when I arrived in case there was an issue. I had a bar girl grab a red bull which I had no problem with and went across the street to the oxxo to replace it be morning.
To prevent minibar charges, I leave a buck or two tip for the room cleaners on top of the minibar fridge, along with some American bubble gum. Never been charged for minibar usage unfairly with that insurance policy. . .
I have had them claim that I drank from the mini bar when I had zero. I pushed back and they reneged quickly. (I rarely drink at all and never beer.) I have to wonder if maybe the guys that check the room report beer missing, and if the client lets it go like you did, they take the beer for themselves. I check the bar when I first enter the room and take a picture of it with my phone. Sometimes the girls will drink from the mini bar with my permission.
ActionJacks220
08-05-19, 21:50
Does HK take US dollars or pesos only?
KC Questor
08-05-19, 23:36
Does HK take US dollars or pesos only?Every place in the Zona takes dollars and pesos. Even outside of the Zona you can usually pay with dollars (although the conversion rate may be poor).
The argument about whether or not you are better off paying in dollars or pesos would take many pages. In general, though, unless you are good with math and converting on your feet, you'll *probably* be fine sticking with dollars. The major bars like HK use the dollar as the baseline and adjust their peso prices as the value changes, so dollars are fine there. Generally you aren't going to save a lot by using pesos and you may screw yourself or end up stuck with pesos after your trip, so it's your call which way to go.
Street girls will *usually* be better off paying in pesos, but not always and YMMV.
Magic Rancher
08-05-19, 23:36
Thursday night ......Nearing time to go home, went in HK to make the last round, found Kitty AKA Cici sitting at bar Kowloon in her pink bikini with her new frizzy pink hair. She's a girly girl, what can I say hehe...... Had a hot session with her like a real GF, but if my dick falls off in a week, you will hear about it.So yeah, Kity is a sweetie. I also had a good experience with her recently sans condom. I wonder if that is her standard practice?
Centurion200
08-06-19, 00:00
When I was checking in a guy tried talking me into buying a VIP membership. I was only staying one night and did not think that I would be able to make it back. I told him that and I think that I set myself up. When I checked out they said that I drank three beers from the mini bar. There was no beer in there to begin with. They kept $25.00 of my deposit. I was to big of a wimp to argue with anyone in Tijuana. Lesson learned.
I did one girl from Hong Kong and one from Bar Tropical. I think one thing that disqualifies a girl from working at HK and going to BT is the baby damage. They can hide it better with what they were at BT. My 7 from BT gave a better effort than the dead fish of a 10 I got from HK. Everyone pretty much says this on the board, but I had to be a sucker for a big ass with no hail damage. She was lame, but the girl with the baby damage tried a bit harder and was cheaper.
Lessons learned.No beer to begin with? I think maybe they don't even know (or care) what should be in the mini bar. Mine last week had 5 Tecates, 2 cokes, 1 Redbull, 2 waters, and a Gatorade.
I never drink from mini bars, but when I checked out on Saturday the clerk in the north lobby started to tell me I did. He backed down when I pushed back (politely). Maybe this is just a trick they try when they think they can get away with it?
Baxter Slade
08-06-19, 04:47
No beer to begin with? I think maybe they don't even know (or care) what should be in the mini bar. Mine last week had 5 Tecates, 2 cokes, 1 Redbull, 2 waters, and a Gatorade.
I never drink from mini bars, but when I checked out on Saturday the clerk in the north lobby started to tell me I did. He backed down when I pushed back (politely). Maybe this is just a trick they try when they think they can get away with it?When you check in there should be a total of 10 drinks in the fridge. If its under 10 take a picture and head for the desk and let them know.
TerOnlyOnce
08-06-19, 05:46
When I stayed in cascades for 2 nights my mini fridge was locked. I don't think I could even open it up so I couldn't take any drinks even if I wanted to LOL. An easy fix is to take a pic of the drinks once you leave the room to check out. Then show them the pic and the time you took it. They wouldn't be able to dispute that.
When you check in there should be a total of 10 drinks in the fridge. If its under 10 take a picture and head for the desk and let them know.One other thing that the desk does is to forget to tell you to keep the receipt of your room deposit. On my last trip, the poor guy in front of me could not find his and they wouldn't refund his deposit. I had mine by accident, but I didn't recall them ever telling us we had to keep that hand-written piece of paper as proof of deposit. Fuckers.
So yeah, Kity is a sweetie. I also had a good experience with her recently sans condom. I wonder if that is her standard practice?She does sans condom? I'll pass.
Every place in the Zona takes dollars and pesos. Even outside of the Zona you can usually pay with dollars (although the conversion rate may be poor).
The argument about whether or not you are better off paying in dollars or pesos would take many pages. In general, though, unless you are good with math and converting on your feet, you'll *probably* be fine sticking with dollars. The major bars like HK use the dollar as the baseline and adjust their peso prices as the value changes, so dollars are fine there. Generally you aren't going to save a lot by using pesos and you may screw yourself or end up stuck with pesos after your trip, so it's your call which way to go.
Street girls will *usually* be better off paying in pesos, but not always and YMMV.I think dollars are also better as well. I always bring pesos since I'm Mexican and cover guy usually gives me "that look" as well as some meseros here and there. Girls are fine and do not care, probably because the $20 bill peso is $2 pesos worth more than 1 $US. I also do not care about those $2 pesos because whatever. But yeah there's definitely some degree of discrimination from the people there if you bring pesos in my experience.
Proper food combination is essential to generate energy. Protein with protein, no carbs. Little to no liquid............No carbs? I thought you need carbs for energy. Protein is to build muscle mass. You do need energy when banging the senoritas. Also you need liquid as you lose that through perspiration.
OrganicAlo
08-06-19, 17:44
. But yeah there's definitely some degree of discrimination from the people there if you bring pesos in my experience.What do you mean by this? I always bring about 40 usd worth of pesos for beer and food. Beer only cost me 80 pesos including a tip to the bartender compared to 5 usd with a tip, saving me about a dollar each beer. Of course, I tip and pay the ladies in usd.
If I have an overnight room, is it possible to take a chica to Cascadas / Rizo without her ID?
I think dollars are also better as well. … there's definitely some degree of discrimination from the people there if you bring pesos in my experience.Nine times out of ten, you get a slightly better price using pesos. And I've never seen even a hint of an attitude if I pay in pesos.
Mr Fahrenheit
08-07-19, 03:18
I am not from Hispanic background and I speak basic Spanish. For me when I try to by in pesos, I don't feel discrimination, but maybe more of an annoyance since I don't know the numbers that well and the person that speaks Spanish doesn't know how to say it in English.
I know what the important numbers for negation for girls when taking them up, but after that when I am trying to buy tacos or at a store and the say the price in Spanish and I have this look that I am trying to translate it in my head that are thinking, " why didn't this guy just bring 3 dollars."
I think dollars are also better as well. I always bring pesos since I'm Mexican and cover guy usually gives me "that look" as well as some meseros here and there. Girls are fine and do not care, probably because the $20 bill peso is $2 pesos worth more than 1 $US. I also do not care about those $2 pesos because whatever. But yeah there's definitely some degree of discrimination from the people there if you bring pesos in my experience.
What do you mean by this? I always bring about 40 usd worth of pesos for beer and food. Beer only cost me 80 pesos including a tip to the bartender compared to 5 usd with a tip, saving me about a dollar each beer. Of course, I tip and pay the ladies in usd.It's just that they mean mug me when they say the price in USD and I pay in pesos, not that I care too much since I literally forget the moment I enter and start seeing girls.
80 sounds like what I usually pay for a beer as well.
No carbs? I thought you need carbs for energy. Protein is to build muscle mass. You do need energy when banging the senoritas. Also you need liquid as you lose that through perspiration.The object is to metabolize your food as quickly as possible and not have it slow you down. Can't if you dilute it with liquid. Combining protein and carbs demands different sets of enzymes for each, again slowing digestion. Complex carbs (brown bread, whole grains) are great for sustained energy, but I like pure protein, a steak or lean meat. My favorite is dessicated liver, vitamin b complex, see with Rose Hips, and calcium citrate to keep from cramping.
KC Questor
08-07-19, 03:59
Nine times out of ten, you get a slightly better price using pesos. And I've never seen even a hint of an attitude if I pay in pesos.The question is whether or not that "slightly" better price is worth the hassle of exchanging, carrying two sets of currency, exchanging back (or spending it just to get rid of it), not to mention the possibility of fucking up and overpaying because you aren't comfortable with the conversion rate.
Those may not be issues for you, or for an experienced guy, or someone who travels there frequently, but for some they are. Dividing by 18.5 is not the simplest thing in the world and unless you want to pull out your phone to calculate every exchange it's easy to just think of it as about 20 to 1. Until you end up giving a girl 1600 pesos ($88) rather than $80 she initially asked for. Or else you decide to haggle and offer 1500 (that's less than 1600, right?) and it's still $81.
KC Questor
08-07-19, 04:03
If I have an overnight room, is it possible to take a chica to Cascadas / Rizo without her ID?Depends on the front desk clerk. If she's a street girl and they know her, it's usually not a problem. If the clerk is lazy (or thinks she works in the club) he may just ask her name. But he may ask to see an ID and a health card. I don't know if a tip will get you past that check.
Most escorts won't go to Cascadas or Rizo, and if she's a civilian she may not want to go to a hooker hotel either. I've taken girls from other clubs to my room in Cascadas after their shift and had no issues.
ScatManDoo
08-07-19, 04:40
The question is whether or not that "slightly" better price is worth the hassle of exchanging, carrying two sets of currency, exchanging back (or spending it just to get rid of it), not to mention the possibility of fucking up and overpaying because you aren't comfortable with the conversion rate.
Those may not be issues for you, or for an experienced guy, or someone who travels there frequently, but for some they are.I just assume that anyone who is asking which currency they should use is capable of understanding exchange rates.
Long Don Silva
08-07-19, 20:31
Until you end up giving a girl 1600 pesos ($88) rather than $80 she initially asked for. Or else you decide to haggle and offer 1500 (that's less than 1600, right?) and it's still $81.This seems to be the most overlooked aspect of the ZN economy. The BG's round to the nearest 10 dollars or 100 pesos. So unless the dollar becomes valued at more than 20 pesos, it's generally better to pay BG's in dollars. It's usually better to pay SG's in pesos, but some of them have been catching on to the true exchange rate the past year or two.
Going to go check out the clubs on Sunday night. Any mongers going to be there? Could use some wingmen and beer pals.
TerOnlyOnce
08-09-19, 22:34
How much time do you guys get with Hong Kong girls? I paid $80 for a good looking chick but only fucked her and nutted after 20 minutes. She wasn't stellar performance-wise for me to want to fuck her round 2 and plus I was tired after I nutted so she left after 20 minutes. I feel like I'm getting ripped off. I paid $80 for 20 minutes. Anyway to find girls that will stay longer and make sure you get a full experience or do you have to test out the girls and throw away the ones that don't feel bad ripping you off out of your time?
Also, why does every girl ask for money before you start? Is this the norm?? Should I just say no? I try to tell the girls I'll pay them after sex but they don't listen.
How much time do you guys get with Hong Kong girls? I paid $80 for a good looking chick but only fucked her and nutted after 20 minutes. She wasn't stellar performance-wise for me to want to fuck her round 2 and plus I was tired after I nutted so she left after 20 minutes. I feel like I'm getting ripped off. I paid $80 for 20 minutes. Anyway to find girls that will stay longer and make sure you get a full experience or do you have to test out the girls and throw away the ones that don't feel bad ripping you off out of your time?
Also, why does every girl ask for money before you start? Is this the norm?? Should I just say no? I try to tell the girls I'll pay them after sex but they don't listen.My experience is the same as yours but that's usually because if you haven't finished in 20 minutes someone from the hotel will come knocking at your door and tell you that the time is up. If you nut before 20 minutes, consider the transaction complete. They don't stay and cuddle which sucks for me because I'm a cuddler.
I believe you can pay for more time beforehand but the girl will want extra money too.
Hong Kong girls have tried to charge $100 on a regular basis but if they don't come down in price I decline the service.
KC Questor
08-10-19, 01:05
How much time do you guys get with Hong Kong girls? I paid $80 for a good looking chick but only fucked her and nutted after 20 minutes. She wasn't stellar performance-wise for me to want to fuck her round 2 and plus I was tired after I nutted so she left after 20 minutes. I feel like I'm getting ripped off. I paid $80 for 20 minutes. Anyway to find girls that will stay longer and make sure you get a full experience or do you have to test out the girls and throw away the ones that don't feel bad ripping you off out of your time?
Also, why does every girl ask for money before you start? Is this the norm?? Should I just say no? I try to tell the girls I'll pay them after sex but they don't listen.Standard time is 30 minutes, but once you nut you are done. If you are a VIP or have your own room you can stay longer, but the girl will usually start to get annoyed after 30-40 minutes and will leave after you nut. MSOG isn't a thing unless you negotiate it. That's kind of standard -- unless you negotiate it, don't expect it. Be explicit with what you want. If you want a full hour with multiple pops, tell her. She'll charge you more.
An escort will be about the same price as a bar girl, but will come for an hour and often will include multiple pops. But most won't come to the Zona so you'll need your own hotel room.
TerOnlyOnce
08-10-19, 03:39
I can never get 30 minutes at HK. All the time the girl cuts it off at the 15-20 minute mark. It's fucking ridiculous. They start telling me my time is up after 15 minutes of sex when we negotiated for a half hour in the bar? What the fuck is this? I just met with a girl who looked very good, a 10 in looks. She wanted $100 and I decided to go for it since she really looks stellar. I even bought her a drink and chatted with her for 10-15 minutes at a table prior to taking upstairs.
But she shorted me time. And the sex was not that good. She kept whining and commanding me to do things. She wouldn't let me enjoy myself and get in the moment. I'm paying this chick $100 what the hell? And again she wanted the money up front before anything happens.
How do you guys deal with this? Should I just not see the better looking girls? It's frustrating because you can't tell which girl will clock watch and end it at 15 minutes and which won't. The first girl I banged at HK I fucked her twice and we didn't negotiate that beforehand. There are definitely girls out there that want to provide a good service. But then there are girls that fucking cut it at 15 minutes.
Seriously guys I need help. I couldn't nut with the girl I paid $100 to. When a girl is whining at me during sex it already puts me in a bad mood. I think I'm better off seeing street girls and saving my money.
Member #4722
08-10-19, 04:00
How much time do you guys get with Hong Kong girls? I paid $80 for a good looking chick but only fucked her and nutted after 20 minutes. She wasn't stellar performance-wise for me to want to fuck her round 2 and plus I was tired after I nutted so she left after 20 minutes. I feel like I'm getting ripped off. I paid $80 for 20 minutes. Anyway to find girls that will stay longer and make sure you get a full experience or do you have to test out the girls and throw away the ones that don't feel bad ripping you off out of your time?
Also, why does every girl ask for money before you start? Is this the norm?? Should I just say no? I try to tell the girls I'll pay them after sex but they don't listen.Girls asking for money up front seems to be the new standard in Tijuana. Many guys would disagree but personally I don't see any difference in service whether paying up front or after. When I am repeating or with a girl I already vibed with in the bar, I will normally offer the cash up front. I know one thing is for sure if they want the money and the monger makes a big deal about paying after then that is probably going to ruin the session. Probably better to bail on session than proceed if paying up front is a dealbreaker and she insists.
ScatManDoo
08-10-19, 18:22
I can never get 30 minutes at HK. All the time the girl cuts it off at the 15-20 minute mark. It's fucking ridiculous. They start telling me my time is up after 15 minutes of sex when we negotiated for a half hour in the bar? What the fuck is this? I just met with a girl who looked very good, a 10 in looks. She wanted $100 and I decided to go for it since she really looks stellar. I even bought her a drink and chatted with her for 10-15 minutes at a table prior to taking upstairs.
But she shorted me time. And the sex was not that good. She kept whining and commanding me to do things. She wouldn't let me enjoy myself and get in the moment. I'm paying this chick $100 what the hell? And again she wanted the money up front before anything happens.You mention no less than three times in your post that you paid a Bar Girl $100.
I too think you would be better off seeing street girls and saving your money.
However, if you need the full 30 minutes for your sessions, Street Girls may not be the answer. Most Street Girls, and the hotels they use, time the short-term rooms at 15 or 20 minutes.
Over a decade ago, when I was reading from other posters complaining about getting cheated on time, I began bringing a kitchen timer in the room, and starting the timer in front of the chica. This worked great for me. The chicas seemed to be OK with it, some even indicated that they thought I was smart to do it.
However on the chat boards I was highly ridiculed for it.
Eventually I learned how and where best to rent overnight rooms in Tijuana. I also learned successful negotiating skills. Like making low-ball offers instead of acting like a rookie and asking the girl "How Much?
I still use the kitchen timer, but only rarely now. I will whip-out the timer at the start of the session only when the cita's time-length was brought up & agreed to during the sidewalk negotiation. For the few times that I still use a timer, it works great. There's a constant meeting of minds as to when the session will end, which pleases us both when cita time was a concern.
If I fail to come in 15 or 20 minutes of BBBJ from a walker, there no sense of failure or displeasure. If her technique was adequate, I offer "doublay" where we both often effortlessly agree to double the time, double the pay and reach a satisfactory conclusion.
The moderator should start a "Hall of Shame" where we can list the price, name, and physical descriptions of the worst chicas. That way we can jointly work to avoid the Tijuana rip-off chica cartel.
TerOnlyOnce
08-10-19, 19:55
I'm sorry to all if this seems very generalizing but my second trip to Tijuana has made me realize that most bar girls are total rip offs and every girl that asks for $100 is a complete rip off. How do they rip you off? Let me explain. They basically fuck you for a total of 15 minutes, yet you paid them $80-100 for 30 minutes. So in essence, they have stolen $40-50 from you. And they have no shame or etiquette at all in doing that. I ask the girl after 15 minutes of sex "I thought we agreed 30 minutes? She couldn't give me a solid reason for cutting it short. She starts mumbling "I need to shower baby" . How in the world is this acceptable? It's nauseating and really unfair. These girls don't realize it but they are turning off new mongers from ever coming back to Tijuana due to a really cheated session.
In my opinion, street girls seems to be better. Why? Because you fuck them for 15-20 minutes, which is the same as a HK girl. In fact, you may actually get to fuck the street girl longer than the bar girl! I swear, my bar girl sessions are literally like 15-16 minutes long. No I am not making this up. I pay the girls $80 for 15 minutes of sex. With a street girl you get the same amount of sex and you only pay $25. Literally 3 times cheaper and you get a girl that is just as hot as the bar girl, maybe a little less hot. Knowing this, why even see a bar girl LOL!
So in reality. The bar girls are an extreme rip off. You can never get your money's worth. It's always in favor of the chica and the monger almost always ends up with a cheated session.
Escorts from an agency may be a bit better, I've never tried them. $85 for a full hour and you get girlfriend experience from what I hear? Also, if the session is bad you can complain to the agency which is wonderful to have that option. If a bar girl session goes bad, who can you complain to? No one. There is no insurance policy and you are spending a lot of money. Think about it, you're investing $80-100 into a bar girl with the off chance that it could end up terribly. If a street session goes bad, it's not that big of a deal since it was only $25. And if an escort agency girl goes bad, prepare to complain like hell to the agency and hope to be compensated.
The moderator should start a "Hall of Shame" where we can list the price, name, and physical descriptions of the worst chicas. That way we can jointly work to avoid the Tijuana rip-off chica cartel.I highly agree. I wish there was a way to see each girl's rating as you walk through the bar LOL. Like the number of stars above her head that shows how many people were satisfied and her "average rating". It would be so easy to identify the clock watchers and rip offs that way. Because something like this doesn't exist, I wouldn't be surprised if 95% of the girls in HK are running the same game: rip off the customer with 15 minutes of sex. Really they are not doing an elaborate scheme. They are simply stealing 50% of the monger's money and are getting away with it very easily. It's shameful. But they don't care, they have no shame and just want to make money, sad.
You mention no less than three times in your post that you paid a Bar Girl $100.
I too think you would be better off seeing street girls and saving your money.
However, if you need the full 30 minutes for your sessions, Street Girls may not be the answer. Most Street Girls, and the hotels they use, time the short-term rooms at 15 or 20 minutes.
Over a decade ago, when I was reading from other posters complaining about getting cheated on time, I began bringing a kitchen timer in the room, and starting the timer in front of the chica. This worked great for me. The chicas seemed to be OK with it, some even indicated that they thought I was smart to do it.
However on the chat boards I was highly ridiculed for it.
Eventually I learned how and where best to rent overnight rooms in Tijuana. I also learned successful negotiating skills. Like making low-ball offers instead of acting like a rookie and asking the girl "How Much?.The kitchen timer thing sounds good but let's be honest. Do you think these bar girls will honor that? These girls are shorting you on time for a reason. Because they know they can get away with it. If the kitchen timer says 15 minutes of sex, I can almost guarantee that the chica will not give two shits and start wrapping it up: stop having sex, getting in the shower, and start getting dressed. And what are you do to? You can't stop them. So all you can do is look at your timer, see you got 15 minutes of sex, and just sit there and watch as the girl leaves. In my opinion the real solution is to just not see bar girls. These girls are running a rip off scheme and their scheme will never be stopped because it's built on foreigners that don't know any better. I would rather find girls elsewhere. Such as street girls or escorts. Really when you think about it, you may be better off not even coming to Tijuana and figuring out a way to finesse cheap deals with hot girls through other methods.
The bar girls are the easy go to spots for girls to cheat you out of your money, and it works all the time.
As far as the negotiation, I usually state $80 and press on that for a bit. The hotter girls will refuse to go off $100. I realize now that you should never pay these girls $100. They are entitled and terrible people. They will not give you a satisfying service.
Girls asking for money up front seems to be the new standard in Tijuana. Many guys would disagree but personally I don't see any difference in service whether paying up front or after. When I am repeating or with a girl I already vibed with in the bar, I will normally offer the cash up front. I know one thing is for sure if they want the money and the monger makes a big deal about paying after then that is probably going to ruin the session. Probably better to bail on session than proceed if paying up front is a dealbreaker and she insists.Why don't more people talk about having to pay up front? It seems that every single girl asks for the money up front. You would have to bail on every girl because they all ask for it. I have no problems putting the money on the desk but when she asks for it and needs it in her purse before she can began to do anything: you just know the session will be terrible. And there's no way to avoid that too. Once it happens in the moment you basically have to pay her or stand still and fumble a bit. I haven't completely denied to pay up front yet but I can imagine it would be very awkward to do so, you would have to get her out of your room. On all my sessions I just pay upfront when asked, but I can fucking tell you that I know the session is not going to be stellar right before I pay. It will usually be lukewarm or bad.
Man, so much bullshit in these bars. You don't get your money's worth at all. Total rip offs left and right. Thought Tijuana was the spot to fuck girls. It is, you can have sex with hotties, but will it be good sex? Not most of the time. If you want good sex you need to go through a lot of trial and error and identifying which girls are terrible. Which means you need a lot of money before you can find some good looking girls that give good service. I thought we are paying to get what we want right away? Not still do this sifting and searching just to get our money's worth? Incredibly lame.
I can never get 30 minutes at HK. All the time the girl cuts it off at the 15-20 minute mark. It's fucking ridiculous. They start telling me my time is up after 15 minutes of sex when we negotiated for a half hour in the bar? What the fuck is this? I just met with a girl who looked very good, a 10 in looks. She wanted $100 and I decided to go for it since she really looks stellar. I even bought her a drink and chatted with her for 10-15 minutes at a table prior to taking upstairs.
But she shorted me time. And the sex was not that good. She kept whining and commanding me to do things. She wouldn't let me enjoy myself and get in the moment. I'm paying this chick $100 what the hell? And again she wanted the money up front before anything happens.
How do you guys deal with this? Should I just not see the better looking girls? It's frustrating because you can't tell which girl will clock watch and end it at 15 minutes and which won't. The first girl I banged at HK I fucked her twice and we didn't negotiate that beforehand. There are definitely girls out there that want to provide a good service. But then there are girls that fucking cut it at 15 minutes.
Seriously guys I need help. I couldn't nut with the girl I paid $100 to. When a girl is whining at me during sex it already puts me in a bad mood. I think I'm better off seeing street girls and saving my money.Seems to me you're doing a lot of whining yourself. Don't take this the wrong way, it's not personal. But man up, grow a pair, and take charge of the situation. If you have to learn a bit more Spanish so that your points are understood, then do so.
During your interview downstairs, point out that it's to be "una media hora completa. " I don't care what others say, Mexicans have a saying. "El mariachi pagado toca mal son. " The pre-paid mariachi plays badly. Stop paying up front. If she balks, stop thinking with your little head and cut her loose. Would you rather just go find another girl, or waste a bunch of money and then [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan about it?
I think you're also learning what you could have learned by reading this, and other forums. The best looking girls almost always provide the worst service. They don't give a shit, they don't respect you, and there is a never-ending stream of stupid gringos right behind you who will put up with any kind of bullshit. Set your sights a bit lower and service will improve. But you'll still need to be in charge. It's your money, you set the terms. I guarantee if she's not paid until afterwards, she'll have no incentive to skip out early.
Oh, and as an aside, $100 for a half hour is, literally, insane money. A girl with the education level of the average BG will earn around $1300 pesos per WEEK in a factory.
Once the chica has all your money in her hands, you've lost control. At this point, she can walk out on you. Will you whine and beg like you are married for her to come back? Offer half now and half afterwards. If she refuses this reasonable offer, tell her to get out. Then find a reasonable chica. Which should be easy because you still have all your money.
Girls asking for money up front seems to be the new standard in Tijuana. Many guys would disagree but personally I don't see any difference in service whether paying up front or after. When I am repeating or with a girl I already vibed with in the bar, I will normally offer the cash up front. I know one thing is for sure if they want the money and the monger makes a big deal about paying after then that is probably going to ruin the session. Probably better to bail on session than proceed if paying up front is a dealbreaker and she insists.
I went to Hong Kong yesterday around 6:30 pm. Lots of hot chicks and the amount of guys wasn't too bad for a Friday.
I noticed literally EVERY girl was quoting me $100. A first for me. I'm wondering if they're trying to push that as the new norm, at least for weekend evenings. I of course laughed and scoffed at all $100 requests. Low balled them with 60 with all agreeing to 80. A couple even agreed to 60 but they were the less hotter ones. There was a light skin chica with an amazing boob job I had agreed 80 to but ultimately went with a bronze skin blonde haired girl which was a mistake LOL. She ended up being a little mechanical for my liking but at least she didn't give me a hard time as it was taking me a super long time to finish.
Moral of the story: stop paying these girls $100. They're obviously asking for that much since there's a good amount of poor saps dishing out this kind of dough.
I did a couple laps around the alleys and there were a couple of smoking hot chicks out there. Should've went with one of them this time.
TerOnlyOnce
08-11-19, 05:07
Seems to me you're doing a lot of whining yourself. Don't take this the wrong way, it's not personal. But man up, grow a pair, and take charge of the situation. If you have to learn a bit more Spanish so that your points are understood, then do so.
During your interview downstairs, point out that it's to be "una media hora completa. " I don't care what others say, Mexicans have a saying. "El mariachi pagado toca mal son. " The pre-paid mariachi plays badly. Stop paying up front. If she balks, stop thinking with your little head and cut her loose. Would you rather just go find another girl, or waste a bunch of money and then and moan about it?
I think you're also learning what you could have learned by reading this, and other forums. The best looking girls almost always provide the worst service. They don't give a shit, they don't respect you, and there is a never-ending stream of stupid gringos right behind you who will put up with any kind of bullshit. Set your sights a bit lower and service will improve. But you'll still need to be in charge. It's your money, you set the terms. I guarantee if she's not paid until afterwards, she'll have no incentive to skip out early.
Oh, and as an aside, $100 for a half hour is, literally, insane money. A girl with the education level of the average BG will earn around $1300 pesos per WEEK in a factory.How do you tell them that you'll pay them after in Spanish? And how do you say I'll pay you half now and then half later? All the girls ask for money up front. If you cut lose on that then you won't have any girls at all. And I agree that the best looking girls give the absolute worst service. I find it impossible to find a girl that will accept money after banging. It makes sense that they cut it off at 20 minutes. Because they've already got your money. Once you give them the money then you've lost all control, she can basically bullshit around with your time. Happened to me just now. I touched my dick while the condom is on and the girl made me put on a new condom. We were 7 minutes into the session and I still haven't fucked her. These girls are demonic. Once they have your money they don't care.
And yeah $100 for a half hour is pretty nuts. Same with $80 for a half hour. It's so fucking stupid LOL. These girls earn a stupid amount of money in mexico and they don't even provide a good service LOL! It's one thing to earn a stupid high amount and provide a really good service. But they are basically stealing money by offering shortened services LOL.
Really stupid. Street girls definitely are more bang for your buck.
Member #4722
08-11-19, 05:36
Once the chica has all your money in her hands, you've lost control. At this point, she can walk out on you. Will you whine and beg like you are married for her to come back? Offer half now and half afterwards. If she refuses this reasonable offer, tell her to get out. Then find a reasonable chica. Which should be easy because you still have all your money.I get what you are saying. I normally put the money in plain sight normally in Tijuana now they grab it. More sharks in Hong Kong I don't really monger here I go to the smaller bars I rarely have issues with bad service. But of course the Hong Kong ladies are more attractive on average.
OrganicAlo
08-11-19, 08:17
How do you tell them that you'll pay them after in Spanish? And how do you say I'll pay you half now and then half later? All the girls ask for money up front. If you cut lose on that then you won't have any girls at all. And I agree that the best looking girls give the absolute worst service. I find it impossible to find a girl that will accept money after banging. It makes sense that they cut it off at 20 minutes. Because they've already got your money. Once you give them the money then you've lost all control, she can basically bullshit around with your time. Happened to me just now. I touched my dick while the condom is on and the girl made me put on a new condom. We were 7 minutes into the session and I still haven't fucked her. These girls are demonic. Once they have your money they don't care.
And yeah $100 for a half hour is pretty nuts. Same with $80 for a half hour. It's so fucking stupid LOL. These girls earn a stupid amount of money in mexico and they don't even provide a good service LOL! It's one thing to earn a stupid high amount and provide a really good service. But they are basically stealing money by offering shortened services LOL.
Really stupid. Street girls definitely are more bang for your buck."Pago despues" "La mitad de paga ahora why la mitad despues" LOL I'm learning Spanish still so I could be wrong on the second one.
I've been to HK 4 times and have been with 9 BGs, I only found out about HK in April. I've only had one bad session, from a girl who quoted 100 and agreed on 80. She goes by Suzie, I've seen her every Monday and Tuesday night that I've gone. Short, beautiful face, dances on the stage next to the main stage often.
Had a horrible time with her, told her to leave 5 minutes into the session, she snatched the cash on the nightstand, Whatever. Complained to management and got two free drinks LOL.
I've also had girls stay in my room for close to an HR. The good sessions definitely make up for the terrible time I had out there 2 weeks ago.
Will be returning next month.
Captain Solo
08-11-19, 09:49
Went in HK about 8:30. Lots of hot girls working in HK.
Rose was dancing on bar Kowloon. Marilyn AKA Lydia is back dancing on the front stage. She had a baby and gained some weight. She used to have the prettiest face and the sexiest, most perfect body and was one of the most popular girl in HK.
Andrea was back. She would do a cheap toda al noche. Krystal was leaning on the rail BS with her friends. Ximena was dancing on the bar. My new wingman liked her doll face and her tall, fit body. He was going to go for her. I had to tell him she is cold, stiff, unresponsive in bed.
Kitty / Cici texted me "Estoy en mi periodo. " The bros can guess what she meant. Brenda, student from Ensenada, texted me she would be in HK by 9 but never arrived until 10:30, after I had popped and gulped down lots of food and beers. I lost control of my dick and had to abort the mission hehe. Was looking for Pasha but she has not worked for 2 weeks. WTF? Those are her pics.
Not too many hot girls in the alley. They me be on summer vacation with families etc. The new tiny, skinny little girl in front of hotel Rapido gave my wingman a bag job, pulled down her skirt, spread her legs and texted with her phone the whole time. But she's young, tight, fresh.
Yvonne showed up to work in front of hotel Garcia with her hair freshly washed, still wet, smiling with her pretty half-Asian face. She's tiny with all natural body, nice A cups. Smiling, giggling sweetly. She helped me to my second pop for the night.
Life is good!
TerOnlyOnce
08-11-19, 10:09
I am more convinced that all the bar girls are a complete rip off. They charge you $80 for 15 minutes of sex. Meanwhile, I saw an incredible street girl for $20 and fucked her for a full and consistent 15-17 minutes. The street girls I've seen have all been courtesy about time and allowing me to enjoy the time. I'm not 100% sure on this but it seems that they care about their customers and want to ensure they are somewhat pleased with the experience. Very cheap too, only $20 and she basically looks like a bar girl. Nice face and wide round big booty. In fact, I'm going to see if I can go find her again to fuck because it was fun.
The bar girls are all rip offs. They charge you $80 for 15 minutes of sex and they don't care about you as a customer. They look at their watches and are constantly thinking "when is it time to leave, when is it time to leave". They're demonic. The club has spoiled them. They just want easy money. Ripping foreigners off with 15 minutes of sex and charging them $80 which is a ridiculously high amount in Tijuana. Some girls are quoting $100 now. Just think about it, look at the mindset and psychology of a bar girl "extract more money, raise the price, decrease the time spent". Look at the behavior, they know what they're doing. Why do you think they raise the prices? Cause they're trying to milk the foreigners as much as possible, which only providing 15 minutes of sex and then saying "it's time to finish up". They have a nice little scam business going on.
If I come back to Tijuana again I probably won't stay at hotel cascades. Would stay at a cheaper hotel away from the zona and uber to the bar areas to fuck the street girls. Staying at a hotel away from the zona also allows me to get escorts to my room. I've never tried the escorts but they seem so much more exciting than shitty bar girls. You get 1 full hour with deep french kissing and a bare blowjob if you please.
In conclusion. All the bar girls are a rip off. They exist to milk foreigners out of their money. They don't exist to ensure that you, the customer, have a good time. Almost all the foreigners don't understand that they are being ripped off. $80 for 15 minutes of sex. I don't even need to say anything else. Extremely high pricing, and extremely low return.
Member #4722
08-11-19, 10:44
How do you tell them that you'll pay them after in Spanish? And how do you say I'll pay you half now and then half later? All the girls ask for money up front. If you cut lose on that then you won't have any girls at all. And I agree that the best looking girls give the absolute worst service. I find it impossible to find a girl that will accept money after banging. It makes sense that they cut it off at 20 minutes. Because they've already got your money. Once you give them the money then you've lost all control, she can basically bullshit around with your time. Happened to me just now. I touched my dick while the condom is on and the girl made me put on a new condom. We were 7 minutes into the session and I still haven't fucked her. These girls are demonic. Once they have your money they don't care.
And yeah $100 for a half hour is pretty nuts. Same with $80 for a half hour. It's so fucking stupid LOL. These girls earn a stupid amount of money in mexico and they don't even provide a good service LOL! It's one thing to earn a stupid high amount and provide a really good service. But they are basically stealing money by offering shortened services LOL.
Really stupid. Street girls definitely are more bang for your buck.Simple solution. Stop going to Hong Kong. Many bars in La Zona have hot girls that will rock your world. I stopped mongering in USA but I am confident I can find a provider here that will give much better service for 30 minutes (on average) for the same HK price and room fee. At HK it is a literal roll of the dice whether the session is good. I had a girl that let me finger her on stage but could wouldn't allow any touching in room. A lot of these young bucks want the hottest girls but with 25 years mongering experience all around the world I will get plenty of hotties but Hong Kong is severely overrated.
I've been prowling and reading up for a bit. Took my first trip last weekend. It was like adult Disneyland for me, and I'll be back soon.
Arrived at the 24 HR parking lot by the outlets on final San Ysidro exit around 8 pm Friday. Plenty of spots. Total cost was $36 for 17 hours.
Walked across pedwest with no delay, hassle, nor stamp on passport. Found the nearby free HK shuttle and was at the hotel pretty quick. I had reserved a room online a few days earlier, check in was quick, paid for room with card, and paid the cash deposit of $30, which I received back promptly the next morning.
Tons of girls, some 9's and 10's, mostly 7's and 8's, few 6 and none below. It wasn't too crowded around 10 pm. BTW I'm Asian and there were plenty others FYI. I was kinda nervous and didn't want to stand or walk around for too long, so I half-assedly picked a decent bodied girl.
She was 19, spoke zero English, but she was very happy and energetic. I speak some Spanish, so it wasn't a problem. Waiter tried to hustle for a bucket of beers for $45, I refused and got 1 for $9+$1 tip. My dumb horny ass rushed for upstairs, no negotiation other than agreeing on $100/30 min. Brought my own box of condoms and lube, so did not need their $20 offering. Wasted the money and time after realizing she looked way too much like my cousin, and I couldn't get it up halfway through LOL. She was chill about it all.
Ate tacos and returned around 1230 am. It was pretty packed, and the hottest ones were gone or seated with other guys.
An 8 with pretty good English and her friend approached me while I was standing around. I sat with them and dropped about $40 for drinks, fries, and tip. Flirted a bit, didn't really negotiate again other than $200/1 HR with the 8. Her friend left halfway through our seating after I turned down threesome offer.
It was quite a GFE. She stayed and hung out in my room for another hour afterwards. Also received BBBJ and foot massage at no extra $. We returned downstairs so she wouldn't get in trouble for overstaying. Another $30 for drinks and some stupid dessert the girl reluctantly agreed to buy from the waiter. She tells me they're not allowed to refuse the waiters. Waiter kept being aggressive so I chat with him and befriended for a bit and tipped him $5 for the second beer. He never returned and left us alone.
Took her back up for another $200/1 HR. More GFE, overstayed another hour again. Returned downstairs to a dying crowd and aggressive / desperate customers. One of them grabbed her arm and tried to pull her into his booth in front of me. Then later another tipped her $5 asking to arriba. She handed me the $5 LOL.
Another round of alcohol then third $200/1 HR trip. Front desk recognized us by now and just waved us in LOL. More GFE, then we woke up around 11 am.
Took the free HK shuttle back to pedwest, took an hour to cross back to US, customs just asked what was in my bag, no stamp on passport.
Yeah, I'll be back soon LOL.
Scudrucker
08-11-19, 14:42
Ok, I am first to admit I have been taken from time to time but there are ways to find "the right girl".
That drink you bought and are now sitting down? Besides the grope session, its also an interview.
If you do not know Spanish like me, use a translation app that also functions without internet.
On my plane ride down, I practice some phrases and you want to ask questions that will invoke an answer. I will ask "If we went upstairs what would it cost me".
" I am uncomfortable paying all at first what about half (or whatever you want) but deal downstairs, then she is trying to reel you in and is more inclined to flex.
You lose a lot of power when you are in the room but do not be afraid to tell a girl to leave or ask for security, these guys have a rep to keep.
Point is that you have to be polite but assertive, appeal to what is huge for them MONEY. I have said "I tip for better service" with good results.
You would be surprised what another ten or twenty will buy in Tijuana.
Try not to be too exicted downstairs, even if you think she is your 10, let her sell herself, and be squeaky clean, it really makes a difference.
Sr.
ScatManDoo
08-11-19, 16:24
How do you tell them that you'll pay them after in Spanish? And how do you say I'll pay you half now and then half later? All the girls ask for money up front.These days I bring in Street Girls or Street Walkers with negotiated fees of between 100 pesos to 200 pesos. If, when they get in my room and want to be paid upfront, I just smile and hand them the dinero. I decided long ago it was not worth it to negotiate for 'paga desputes' on the sidewalk nor argue about it while in mi cuartos.
TerOnlyOnce
08-11-19, 18:32
"Pago despues" "La mitad de paga ahora why la mitad despues" LOL I'm learning Spanish still so I could be wrong on the second one.
I've been to HK 4 times and have been with 9 BGs, I only found out about HK in April. I've only had one bad session, from a girl who quoted 100 and agreed on 80. She goes by Suzie, I've seen her every Monday and Tuesday night that I've gone. Short, beautiful face, dances on the stage next to the main stage often.
Had a horrible time with her, told her to leave 5 minutes into the session, she snatched the cash on the nightstand, Whatever. Complained to management and got two free drinks LOL.
I've also had girls stay in my room for close to an HR. The good sessions definitely make up for the terrible time I had out there 2 weeks ago.
Will be returning next month.At Hong Kong the price is $80 for 15 minutes of sex. That's a lot of money in Tijuana. The girls have been spoiled because they're use to stealing money from foreigners. They don't need to offer a good service because they can just steal the next person's money.
Whereas as if you see a street girl you get a great deal. You can find girls that look just as hot as bar girls. From my experience, the street girls are more customer friendly. The Hong Kong girls are spoiled. The difference in attitude is night and day. A typical Hong Kong girl thinks "Great, I got the foreigner's money. Now how can I finish this as quick as possible? I want to go back to the club and steal more money, I don't care if this guy enjoys fucking me". It's disgusting LOL. You will see it in their attitudes if you get bar girls frequently. Keep in mind: I'm just a standard guy. And this has been my experience with the attractive HK girls. I'm not being hateful or bashing these girls for no reason. I'm simply reporting what I've observed during my sessions.
I don't know exactly what street girls are thinking but I can tell you that they don't think about finishing as soon as possible. Probably because they don't work in the bar. Think about it, a bar girl has no reason to spend more than 15 minutes banging you. She would rather finish as soon as possible to steal from the next gringo, she makes more money this way. A street girl doesn't have a bar to go to. So what does it matter if she spends a few more minutes fucking you? She's in no rush, and even if she is, you've only invested $20.
So yeah, the bars are a waste. I'the rather everyone keep seeing them though cause I get all the attractive street girls to myself LOL.
ScatManDoo
08-11-19, 19:32
I don't know exactly what street girls are thinking but I can tell you that they don't think about finishing as soon as possible. Probably because they don't work in the bar. Think about it, a bar girl has no reason to spend more than 15 minutes banging you. She would rather finish as soon as possible to steal from the next gringo, she makes more money this way. A street girl doesn't have a bar to go to. So what does it matter if she spends a few more minutes fucking you? She's in no rush, and even if she is, you've only invested $20.I couldn't disagree with you more.
There are a lot of good reasons why I now go in with Street Girls and Street walkers and no longer mess around much with Bar Girls.
But not for the reason you state here.
All sex workers I've enjoyed the company of in Tijuana want (in most cases) to conclude the cita ASAP.
I give them a compelling reason not to be in too great a hurry. You might benefit from reading my past posts.
KC Questor
08-11-19, 19:36
How do you tell them that you'll pay them after in Spanish? And how do you say I'll pay you half now and then half later?You download a fucking translate app and type in the thing you want to tell them and then show them the phone. It's not hard nowadays to be very explicit about your expectations. Hell, if you type in a phrase, the app remembers is so you don't even need to type it in the second time. Just choose it from the list.
I only pay after.
I will pay half before and half after.
I want you to suck me without condom.
I want to take pictures of you.
I won't show your face.
I want the full 30 minutes.
Just have a list of things, tap them, and show her the phone.
At Hong Kong the price is $80 for 15 minutes of sex.
This is NOT true, and only shows that you have poor negotiation skills, or just poor judgment. The price is **whatever you agree to pay** and the duration is **as long as she agreed to stay**. I regularly get 40+ minutes (VIP) for $60 because that's what I specify. I'll pay $80 for sex with BBBJ, and if I finish early I'll let the girl go. But I never let HER decide that the time is up unless THE TIME IS UP.
Man up and insist on getting what you pay for. And don't fucking pay them in advance. "El mariachi pagado..." every girl knows what that means.
They don't need to offer a good service because they can just steal the next person's money.
This is true on a weekend in Hong Kong. There are so many stupid mongers who will take a girl upstairs immediately because if he doesn't there are 10 more guys who will. There are so many guys in hong Kong that just getting a girl's attention is difficult, and you don't have time to interview her before she is gone. And if you insist on $80 for 30 minutes she'll just find another guy. So I agree with you on this one. You know what you do? Go to a different bar, or don't go to Hong Kong on a weekend.
If you have to be in the Zona on a Saturday night, try Chicago Club, Bar Tropical, Las Chavelas, or even Adelitas (which can be as bad as HK). Or, stay away entirely on Fridays and Saturdays. Hong Kong on a Sunday or a Wednesday is decent, and on a Monday or Tuesday can be downright casual. If you HAVE to go on a Saturday, do like you said and stay away from the Zona entirely. Stay at a regular hotel and get an escort at $80-120 for a full hour of GFE. Or Do the street girl thing like you are suggesting.
You seem to have it figured out. You don't like dealing with Hong Kong girls on a Saturday night. Great! You know what you like and what you have the ability to control. You even know what to do about it. So stop slamming Hong Kong because it isn't what YOU want. It's a great place for what other guys want and can handle.
I don't know exactly what street girls are thinking but I can tell you that they don't think about finishing as soon as possible. Probably because they don't work in the bar. Think about it, a bar girl has no reason to spend more than 15 minutes banging you. She would rather finish as soon as possible to steal from the next gringo, she makes more money this way. A street girl doesn't have a bar to go to. So what does it matter if she spends a few more minutes fucking you? She's in no rush, and even if she is, you've only invested $20.
This makes me think that you haven't been with a lot of street girls. They are just as likely to scam you as any bar girl. You think that they aren't in a rush to get back on the street? A bar girl just made $80 (more than a week's pay in Tijuana). A street girl made $20. OF COURSE she is in a hurry to get back to the street to get more clients. more so than the bar girl, for sure.
The boards are full of reports from guys who get up to the room and she wants an extra 200 pesos to take her top off, and an extra 200 to suck you with a condom, and an extra 200 to do more than one position, and an extra 200 to go 30 minutes. They complain that all of a sudden they are paying $80 for 30 minutes and might as well go with a bar girl. And even if you DO negotiate exactly what you want (which I doubt that you are capable of), they can still rip you off if you don't stand up for yourself. But as you said, who cares if they only scammed you for $20?
I've been prowling and reading up for a bit. Took my first trip last weekend. It was like adult Disneyland for me, and I'll be back soon.
Arrived at the 24 HR parking lot by the outlets on final San Ysidro exit around 8 pm Friday. Plenty of spots. Total cost was $36 for 17 hours.
Walked across pedwest with no delay, hassle, nor stamp on passport. Found the nearby free HK shuttle and was at the hotel pretty quick. I had reserved a room online a few days earlier, check in was quick, paid for room with card, and paid the cash deposit of $30, which I received back promptly the next morning.
Tons of girls, some 9's and 10's, mostly 7's and 8's, few 6 and none below. It wasn't too crowded around 10 pm. BTW I'm Asian and there were plenty others FYI. I was kinda nervous and didn't want to stand or walk around for too long, so I half-assedly picked a decent bodied girl.
She was 19, spoke zero English, but she was very happy and energetic. I speak some Spanish, so it wasn't a problem. Waiter tried to hustle for a bucket of beers for $45, I refused and got 1 for $9+$1 tip. My dumb horny ass rushed for upstairs, no negotiation other than agreeing on $100/30 min. Brought my own box of condoms and lube, so did not need their $20 offering. Wasted the money and time after realizing she looked way too much like my cousin, and I couldn't get it up halfway through LOL. She was chill about it all.
Ate tacos and returned around 1230 am. It was pretty packed, and the hottest ones were gone or seated with other guys.Wow 200 an HR for 1 girl? Sheesh as long as you had fun I guess.
All these talks about street girls yet whenever I'm in Tijuana the street girls I see aren't that good looking, is there a particular district where the street girls are decent looking?
KC Questor
08-12-19, 00:22
All these talks about street girls yet whenever I'm in Tijuana the street girls I see aren't that good looking, is there a particular district where the street girls are decent looking?The only "district" is the Zona, although the girls spread out on side streets and such. The biggest density of girls is the alley (Callejon Coahuila) with girls on both sides, and then along the Constitution and Ninos Heroes sides, around the the main Calle Coahuila. There are street girls uphill on Constitution and Ninos Heroes up to Primera. Going along Primera you have street girls and trannies. The best looking girls are the ones closest to the action in the alley, but if they aren't to your taste then they aren't to your taste. The other thread on Street Girls will have more information.
Wow 200 an HR for 1 girl? Sheesh as long as you had fun I guess.
Yeah, and he did that three times. That girl got $600 for three hours. Made her month, for sure. Now she is going to expect the next guy to come along to also pay $100 for 30 minutes, and she isn't going to be interested in making a deal for longer time.
I mean, he seems happy and that's what matters. But for that price she probably would have spent the whole day and night with him. If I ever want an hour with a girl, I'll offer her an upgrade... but not double.
TerOnlyOnce
08-12-19, 01:06
I just read the post about someone who spent $200 per hour for 3 hours with a HK girl? These are USA prices. A girl getting $600 in Tijuana for 1 night must feel like she owns all of Tijuana. I think this is the reason why girls default give 15 minutes of sex for $80. Too many foreigners that come in and gladly pay $200 per session. The girls most likely talk and word spreads that some girls are earning several hundreds per night. Basically Hong Kong is the equivalent of getting a USA escort LOL. Why go to Hong Kong when you can get the same girl for the same price back at home? LOL it's crazy. I'm bewildered.
Thankfully there are bars like adelitas, Chicago, and others where you can still get cheap prices but it's not much better. Honestly if you're paying more than $60 for 15 minutes of sex at Hong Kong, you are getting ripped off, period. There is no question about that, you are just getting cheated out of your money plain and simple LOL. It's like buying ice cream at $5 per scoop. Don't fall victim to a cheated transaction please. I always try to ensure that I get a fair transaction. I don't even want a bargain, I just want a fair price for a fair time period.
This is NOT true, and only shows that you have poor negotiation skills, or just poor judgment. The price is **whatever you agree to pay** and the duration is **as long as she agreed to stay**. I regularly get 40+ minutes (VIP) for $60 because that's what I specify. I'll pay $80 for sex with BBBJ, and if I finish early I'll let the girl go. But I never let HER decide that the time is up unless THE TIME IS UP.
Man up and insist on getting what you pay for. And don't fucking pay them in advance. "El mariachi pagado..." every girl knows what that means.
I appreciate your responses and you seem more of rational person in that you don't subscribe to paying stupid high amounts of money to these girls and get very little in return. But please don't make deceiving statements. Let's be clear here. For a typical newbie foreigner that goes to HK, what are his sex sessions like? If he's going for a girl on the hotter side then he should expect to pay $80 for 15 minutes of sex as a default. This is what happens 9 times out of 10. Now, as you've said you can negotiate specific details before bringing her up. If you don't know spanish though, it will be difficult.
But even if you do, let's take a step back here. What exactly are you doing? You are PAYING this girl for her service. Why should you, as a customer, need to further negotiate beyond the minimum, in order to get what you want? Good service should be EXPECTED. This isn't rocket science here. You come with the money, and you expect to receive good service. If the standard service for your money is 15 minutes of sex, then it is shit service.
The point I'm making here is that 95% of these girls have 0 customer service skills. I have no idea how you regularly get 40+ minutes for $60. Or which girls you are seeing. But from my experience the standard is $80 for 15 minutes. Again, this is for a standard foreigner like myself. This standard of service is complete shit. If you need anymore negotiation, skill, etc just to get average or good service then it's not worth it. Again, why are you paying the girl in the first place? For a GOOD service. It's like going to a car mechanic and paying to have him fix your car. The guy should just do it and do a good job. You shouldn't have to press him and twist him to get him to do a good job. If you do then he is simply a piece of shit and should be out of business.
This is true on a weekend in Hong Kong. There are so many stupid mongers who will take a girl upstairs immediately because if he doesn't there are 10 more guys who will. There are so many guys in hong Kong that just getting a girl's attention is difficult, and you don't have time to interview her before she is gone. And if you insist on $80 for 30 minutes she'll just find another guy. So I agree with you on this one. You know what you do? Go to a different bar, or don't go to Hong Kong on a weekend.
If you have to be in the Zona on a Saturday night, try Chicago Club, Bar Tropical, Las Chavelas, or even Adelitas (which can be as bad as HK). Or, stay away entirely on Fridays and Saturdays. Hong Kong on a Sunday or a Wednesday is decent, and on a Monday or Tuesday can be downright casual. If you HAVE to go on a Saturday, do like you said and stay away from the Zona entirely. Stay at a regular hotel and get an escort at $80-120 for a full hour of GFE. Or Do the street girl thing like you are suggesting.
You seem to have it figured out. You don't like dealing with Hong Kong girls on a Saturday night. Great! You know what you like and what you have the ability to control. You even know what to do about it. So stop slamming Hong Kong because it isn't what YOU want. It's a great place for what other guys want and can handle.
Let's focus on the objective facts here. I assume we are both intelligent people and can look at some numbers and simply determine what is the best bang for your buck. Let me repeat my point: bar girls are a rip off and the least effective way to spend your money. This is objectively true, no one can deny this simple fact. You are paying a girl $80 for 15 minutes of sex. Let's say she's a 9 in looks. Great, you just fucked a 9 for 15 minutes and it only cost you $80, not bad. Now, how about a street girl. Standard rate is $20 for 15 minutes of sex, and let's say the girl is an 8. Congratulations, you just paid 1/4th the amount compared to Hong Kong and you got a girl that's a little less hot.
It's a no brainer. Now the only problem is there aren't that many hot street girls. They do exist though. For example take myself, I was there for just a few nights and even I was able to find a street girl that looked like a solid hottie. Tall, big round bubble butt, wide hips, big tits, etc, all of it. She wanted $20 for 15 minutes. I ended up fucking her for over 45 minutes in 2 different sessions. My total spend was $60 and I had a fucking BLAST fucking that one street girl compared to 15 minutes of sex with a Hong Kong girl.
It's just simple numbers. I'm an intelligent guy. I believe in effectiveness and appropriate use of dollars. Spending something like $80 or $100 for 15 minutes of sex just seems stupid to me. It's like willingly cheating yourself. A lot of foreigners like to cheat themselves like that, I don't. I work hard for my money and enjoy getting how much it's worth.
This makes me think that you haven't been with a lot of street girls. They are just as likely to scam you as any bar girl. You think that they aren't in a rush to get back on the street? A bar girl just made $80 (more than a week's pay in Tijuana). A street girl made $20. OF COURSE she is in a hurry to get back to the street to get more clients. more so than the bar girl, for sure.
The boards are full of reports from guys who get up to the room and she wants an extra 200 pesos to take her top off, and an extra 200 to suck you with a condom, and an extra 200 to do more than one position, and an extra 200 to go 30 minutes. They complain that all of a sudden they are paying $80 for 30 minutes and might as well go with a bar girl. And even if you DO negotiate exactly what you want (which I doubt that you are capable of), they can still rip you off if you don't stand up for yourself. But as you said, who cares if they only scammed you for $20?To me this is just common sense but: a customer should NEVER have to stand up for themselves. They are the customer. They have all the power, especially in a market like this. If the customer isn't happy with the immediate offer, they can leave and find another girl. If a street girl tries to rip you off in the room, so be it, it's only a $20 investment. The best you can do is negotiate as much as you can outside and then just go with it. How about the bar girl, what if she tries to rip you off in the room? Now you've got $80 on the line. The risk is much higher. In theory, the service should be more secure, since it is more expensive right? But it's not, it's actually even LESS secure. And that's the thing. There's all these little things that just make bar girls such an ineffective spend of money. Which is why I recommend for people who go to Tijuana on a regular basis to NOT go to bar girls. Sure if you go to tijuana once or twice in your life, be the dumb gringo and pay $600 for 3 hours with a girl, but know that you're being ripped off and you should never do something like that again.
As far as street girls: I do enjoy them from my limited time at Tijuana. That would probably change if I've been there a bit. But I do like street girls, mainly because they are very cheap. And you can find some really hot girls. It takes time and luck to come across the hot street girls. But when you do find them, you get a ridiculously cheap price. You could go back and bang the same girl over and over for hours and pay sub $200. It's amazing. $200 for a bar girl gets you two sessions of 15 minutes.
Also here is a tip for newcomers to mexico. If you want to cross the border from mexico to the USA and the line is long and you have a flight to catch. DON'T panic and don't listen to any mexicans that try to talk you into a bus ride. These people will rip you off. A mexican guy lied to me and said a bus would take me to the airport for $40. In reality he bought a $7 ticket that took me ahead of the line and basically dropped me across the border. The guy LIED to me, the bus doesn't go to the airport, and stole $33 from me. If you need any help getting across the border when the line is long DO NOT SPEAK TO ANY MEXICANS! Look for the first gringo you see. Usually a white male, and ask simply about the bus that can take you across the border. Keep asking gringos that you see until one knows what you are talking about, they will speak english and explain things nicely for you. Do not talk to any mexicans and do not listen to any mexicans. Even if they speak english or try to scare you into thinking you will miss your flight. You may get scammed once like me but after that you will be experienced and won't have it happen to you again.
The description of the guy who scammed me: guy wearing blue uniform, speaks english, combed and very short hair and middle aged, kind of skinny. Approached me as I got out of uber and started walking towards the line. These guys are really stupid to scam foreigners like this because it may bite them one day. Don't listen to them guys, just ask the nearest gringos you can find. These mexican guys are dishonest, even if they are wearing a "uniform and badge" probably all fake.
Also, from what I understand there is a shuttle that goes from the border to HK and from HK to the border for free. I have no idea where this shuttle is or how to use it, so I've always taken $3 ubers when I need to go to and from the border. If anyone has any idea how this works please share. Speaking extremely limited spanish really doesn't get you far here.
TerOnlyOnce
08-12-19, 01:11
The only "district" is the Zona, although the girls spread out on side streets and such. The biggest density of girls is the alley (Callejon Coahuila) with girls on both sides, and then along the Constitution and Ninos Heroes sides, around the the main Calle Coahuila. There are street girls uphill on Constitution and Ninos Heroes up to Primera. Going along Primera you have street girls and trannies. The best looking girls are the ones closest to the action in the alley, but if they aren't to your taste then they aren't to your taste. The other thread on Street Girls will have more information.You shouldn't say $100 for 30 minutes, it's not 30 minutes. It's only 15 minutes of sex. I've been to Hong Kong, I've seen the girls. The amount of time you get of dick inside her and actual fucking is 15 minutes. The girl spends 5 minutes walking around your room, another 5 minutes playing in your shower, then she shaves the last 5 minutes off and leaves early as a courtesy cause she likes to steal money. So really they are false advertising since it should be "$100 for 25 minutes". But again, only 15 minutes of actual sex.
Yeah, and he did that three times. That girl got $600 for three hours. Made her month, for sure. Now she is going to expect the next guy to come along to also pay $100 for 30 minutes, and she isn't going to be interested in making a deal for longer time.
I mean, he seems happy and that's what matters. But for that price she probably would have spent the whole day and night with him. If I ever want an hour with a girl, I'll offer her an upgrade... but not double.She was with me for about 10 hours, so including beer and tips probably around $66/ HR. Did the deed on and off throughout. Made her month for sure LOL she's off on vacation.
I've been going to Hong Kong every five days for a month. I ask all girls immediately "how much? Just to get a idea. I don't counter offer. To me, so much sex around why counter offer? Anyway, woman usually say 80. A third say 100. If I ask 30 girls I get one 60. Problem is, I need a girl who's going to be making out with me or begging me to suck her nipples before I agree to sex. So it's hard to find a good one. Ten am, to 3 pm is probably the best. I don't get girls asking me for lap dances anymore like years past. And the woman are mostly non contact on the lap dance. They flirt more at the bar without a drink then they do in the lap dance.
If you must go on the weekends than I suggest you spring for the VIP card. If you don't speak Spanish or very little ask the waiters which girls do and have them send them to you. Once you find one you click with get a private VIP dance. Sometimes you could get a BBJ and possibly more for about 30 bucks or so. If you want more you can go upstairs to finish the deed. ViP card gives a discount on laps and if it goes south you are only out half the money you would have spent had you just went straight upstairs. The best street girl action is HK back door, Next is Hotel. Ibiza and then 3rd is probably El. Porton across the street from Ibiza then Hotel Garcia. I suggest to get street girl for your first nut 8 PM is usually when the best ones start to come out. Think of it as an appetizer. Then go have dinner outside of the zona or chill in your room for a bit 10 PM is usually peak time In HK until about 230 AM. If you do not go on a regular basis don't expect to hit a home run on a Fri / Sat in HK. The girls are in full on mercenary mode unless you are a regular or she is really attracted to you. The 8's and 9's in HK under deliver about 90% of time unless you have an established relationship already. This is coming from somebody fluent in Spanish top physical shape and handsome, and I too have had bad experiences. Remember fellas attraction for women is not all about looks if you want a GFE you have to invest time. And money otherwise the escort route is your best bet as far as return on investment is concerned. If you enjoy the strip club circus rap video vibe then weekends are the best time to be there but have realistic expectations unless you are on the level of a Jay Z.
That Kleeenex guy has to be trolling. $600 for 3 hours LOL. For $600 she should have stayed with you 2-3 days straight haha.
I can never get 30 minutes at HK. All the time the girl cuts it off at the 15-20 minute mark. It's fucking ridiculous. They start telling me my time is up after 15 minutes of sex when we negotiated for a half hour in the bar? What the fuck is this? I just met with a girl who looked very good, a 10 in looks. She wanted $100 and I decided to go for it since she really looks stellar. I even bought her a drink and chatted with her for 10-15 minutes at a table prior to taking upstairs.
But she shorted me time. And the sex was not that good. She kept whining and commanding me to do things. She wouldn't let me enjoy myself and get in the moment. I'm paying this chick $100 what the hell? And again she wanted the money up front before anything happens.
How do you guys deal with this? Should I just not see the better looking girls? It's frustrating because you can't tell which girl will clock watch and end it at 15 minutes and which won't. The first girl I banged at HK I fucked her twice and we didn't negotiate that beforehand. There are definitely girls out there that want to provide a good service. But then there are girls that fucking cut it at 15 minutes.
Seriously guys I need help. I couldn't nut with the girl I paid $100 to. When a girl is whining at me during sex it already puts me in a bad mood. I think I'm better off seeing street girls and saving my money.Hi TerOnlyOnce! - My advice is if a girl gives good service, I repeat. This way I have 2 girls in HK and 3 girls in Adelita together 5 favorite girls with great service and I don't need more. I always have all styles and positions, the same price from $ 60 to $ 80, no problems, the girls are nice and have no bad mood. Even with some girls I am a friend on Facebook. But one weekend all 5 girls did not work and OMG disaster, I was with some new girl and of course bad service. So this is my advice.
You shouldn't say $100 for 30 minutes, it's not 30 minutes. It's only 15 minutes of sex. I've been to Hong Kong, I've seen the girls. The amount of time you get of dick inside her and actual fucking is 15 minutes. The girl spends 5 minutes walking around your room, another 5 minutes playing in your shower, then she shaves the last 5 minutes off and leaves early as a courtesy cause she likes to steal money. So really they are false advertising since it should be "$100 for 25 minutes". But again, only 15 minutes of actual sex.OK. You've posted at length about how things OUGHT to be. Now let me tell you how things ARE. You don't seem to have traveled much. You are not in Mexico, you are in some weird border town area created primarily for gringos. HK is a classic Mexican clip joint. It is designed to separate you from your money as fast as possible, with little regard to you, the customer. It's a rule of thumb that, in Mexico, wherever gringos congregate, shitty service and high prices are sure to follow. That's the reality of the situation. What you choose to do about it is your responsibility.
Mexicans tend to live in the moment. A Hk BG even more so. You're one guy in a bar full of them. Unless you're a repeat it doesn't matter because she'll never see you again. Therefore, customer service is a low priority and extracting as much money as possible from the rich gringos is the top priority. Those are the facts going into the deal. Now, if you're getting 15 minutes, and she's leaving early, and things suck in general, that's on YOU, my friend. It's up to you to ensure she stays the entire time. It's up to you to tell her to shower on her own time.
No, you shouldn't have to "take charge. " Yes, they should be interested in customer service. But they are not, and will never. Those are the rules of the game, like them or not. Learn to play by them, or find another venue.
Oh, and if it matters, I think HK sucks and I almost never go there. I much prefer lower-key bars, indies, etc. But to each his own.
KC Questor
08-13-19, 01:14
For a typical newbie foreigner that goes to HK, what are his sex sessions like? If he's going for a girl on the hotter side then he should expect to pay $80 for 15 minutes of sex as a default.That's what this board is all about. And that's why I am here refuting your opinions. Yes, a naive gringo will walk into Hong Kong on a Saturday night and his eyes will bug out because there are hundreds of girls who could work at the hottest strip club in his town, and hundreds of guys who are vying for their attention, and he is overwhelmed. And he asks a girl "How much" and accepts her request of $80 or $100 and they head upstairs and OF COURSE she is interested in getting back down there to get another client.
And my point is that it does NOT have to be like that. You coming here and repeating your mantra of "$80 for 15 minutes" doesn't help. It makes guys think that's normal.
I have no idea how you regularly get 40+ minutes for $60. Or which girls you are seeing. I'm getting 40 minutes because that's what I tell the girls I expect. And I'm getting $60 because I don't go to Hong Kong on Saturday night. If I did, I'd expect to pay $80. But I'd damn sure make certain she understood that I expected BBBJ and passion and for me to pay afterwards. Because I AM the customer, and it is MY money until she earns it.
But from my experience the standard is $80 for 15 minutes. Repeating it won't make it true.
This is objectively true, no one can deny this simple fact. You are paying a girl $80 for 15 minutes of sex. You may be paying her for 15 minutes of sex if you finish after 15 minutes. The rate does not include multiple pops. So if you finish after 15 minutes, yes, she will usually get dressed and leave. Not always. Sometimes they'll hang out a bit; relax until they are ready to head back down. But as mentioned, they want to earn as much money as possible, and a Saturday night is their big chance.
Now, how about a street girl. Standard rate is $20 for 15 minutes of sex, and let's say the girl is an 8. Congratulations, you just paid 1/4th the amount compared to Hong Kong and you got a girl that's a little less hot.I agree, street girls are a great value -- until you negotiate the same level of service you expect from a bar girl. Then they merely become a *good* value. But that $20 you talk about is probably going to be the girl pulling down her pants (not taking off her top) and asking if you want her on her back or on her knees. If you want her to suck you, or to move to a different position, or to show you her tits, those are all extra. If not, congrats. You just paid $20 for a session with a Fleshlight.
Spending something like $80 or $100 for 15 minutes of sex just seems stupid to me.Me too.
To me this is just common sense but: a customer should NEVER have to stand up for themselves. Oh, then you must have gotten really lucky in life, my friend. I have to stand up for myself all the time.
How about the bar girl, what if she tries to rip you off in the room? Now you've got $80 on the line. The risk is much higher. How so? If she tries to leave after 15 minutes you just tell her you won't pay her the full amount. She'll stay.
Also here is a tip for newcomers to mexico. If you want to cross the border from mexico to the USA and the line is long and you have a flight to catch. DON'T panic and don't listen to any mexicans that try to talk you into a bus ride. These people will rip you off. A mexican guy lied to me and said a bus would take me to the airport for $40. In reality he bought a $7 ticket that took me ahead of the line and basically dropped me across the border. The guy LIED to me, the bus doesn't go to the airport, and stole $33 from me. Oh my god, a random guy offered you a deal and you accepted and it was a ripoff? I'm shocked! Is there a chance that the Rolex watch you bought also a fake? Man, you have to take some responsibility for yourself. You can't just be gullible and accepting and trusting of everyone. Of course there are people who will try to take advantage of rich foreigners. If you think that doesn't happen in America, you haven't traveled enough.
If you need any help getting across the border when the line is long DO NOT SPEAK TO ANY MEXICANS! Look for the first gringo you see. Usually a white male, and ask simply about the bus that can take you across the border. Keep asking gringos that you see until one knows what you are talking about, they will speak english and explain things nicely for you. Do not talk to any mexicans and do not listen to any mexicans. Even if they speak english or try to scare you into thinking you will miss your flight. You may get scammed once like me but after that you will be experienced and won't have it happen to you again.Ohhhh, you're just a racist. Nevermind. I understand. OK. I got you. White men never do anything immoral.
Also, from what I understand there is a shuttle that goes from the border to HK and from HK to the border for free. I have no idea where this shuttle is or how to use it, so I've always taken $3 ubers when I need to go to and from the border. If anyone has any idea how this works please share. Speaking extremely limited spanish really doesn't get you far here.Hong Kong has a limo stand right outside the front door. You ask the guy there for a ride to the border. You tip him $2 (or just $1 each if there are a few of you). If you want a shuttle from the border to Hong Kong you either call them and ask for them to pick you up at PedEast, or if you are at PedWest you walk a block to the shuttle garage and ride to Hong Kong from there. It's fairly convenient.
ScatManDoo
08-13-19, 03:22
If readers of this board pay attention to (and follow in the footsteps) the rookie posters of this website. They will likely receive poor advise. They will make rookie mistakes and likely get crappy sex sessions.
I made my first trip to La Zona in October 2004. And before I went I spent several weeks reading multiple forums detailing how things worked in La Zona. Sure I still made rookie mistakes, like paying Monica forehead 300 pesos, but I continued to read and sharpen my skills.
I learned to always pay and negotiate in pesos and I learned to never ask a chica "How much?" because that invites the highest of quotes from the chicas which are hard to negotiate down to reasonable fees.
I learned that different bars have different customary fees. I learned that Street Girls in different locations throughout La Zona also had different customary fees and were more likely to assert a la cart pricing and services.
For me low-ball initial offers seem to work well (not asking a chicas "How much? It grounds the chicas expectations and is more likely to lead to reasonable fees.
Remember, don't let rookies tell you how things are. Unless you want to remain a perpetual rookie like some of the board members here.
Long Don Silva
08-13-19, 05:18
You shouldn't say $100 for 30 minutes, it's not 30 minutes. It's only 15 minutes of sex. I've been to Hong Kong, I've seen the girls. The amount of time you get of dick inside her and actual fucking is 15 minutes. The girl spends 5 minutes walking around your room, another 5 minutes playing in your shower, then she shaves the last 5 minutes off and leaves early as a courtesy cause she likes to steal money. So really they are false advertising since it should be "$100 for 25 minutes". But again, only 15 minutes of actual sex.Believe it or not, others have experiences that don't line up with yours. I've been going to HK for almost four years and my experience has been the polar opposite of what you've been posting. I get GFE about 90% of the time. You just have to pay really close attention to the girls' body language and wait until you find a girl who feels like she's going to give you a good time. And for God's sake, RTFF. You'll probably find that you can optimize your approach in many different aspects.
And based on some of the other difficulties you've begun reporting, it seems you probably have the appearance and or demeanor of an easy target. You best change that up because all sorts of people in this town have a sixth sense for an easy opportunity for a rip off.
The point I'm making here is that 95% of these girls have 0 customer service skills. I have no idea how you regularly get 40+ minutes for $60.How are your interactions with them? Forget language, most communication is body and tone anyway. I mess around elsewhere too and get great service from 80% of them. If they're beyond what I want to pay, I decline and move on. Otherwise I just take a risk and see if their rates match their service.
Idk, I just put in a bit of effort to treat them like normal non-working girls and skip negotiating over $20 as it feels counterproductive to the relaxed, frictionless vibe and GFE I prefer. I thought the $600/10 HR overnight GFE with an 8 was a pretty good deal, no? I think I spent 5 condoms on her. One pop though, I just take my time. More like extended GFE as we've been exchanging casual texts daily since.
It's like going to a car mechanic and paying to have him fix your car. The guy should just do it and do a good job. You shouldn't have to press him and twist him to get him to do a good job. If you do then he is simply a piece of shit and should be out of business.
To me this is just common sense but: a customer should NEVER have to stand up for themselves. Sign me up for that utopia please. Not sure if Tijuana is a likely place for that though.
Let's focus on the objective facts here. I assume we are both intelligent people and can look at some numbers and simply determine what is the best bang for your buck. I work in tech and you've just done more analysis than I've done at work all year and killed my boner. Did not expect this regarding working girls LOL.
There were plenty good advice here. I'd just recommend:
1. Adopt KC Questor's dominant mindset of "I'm the customer and this is what I want, else I move on" and demand your $80/40 minutes or whatever and see what you get, or.
2. Sip on a drink, chill, warm her up, and if she doesn't seem hasty and money hungry, bid farewell to an extra $20 and friction, and see what you get.
I'll likely be heading down on the weekend between Labor Day and Mexican Independence Day weekends. Curious now to see what I can get from 9's and 10's at HK LOL.
TerOnlyOnce
08-13-19, 13:48
So I'm back home from my trip and I just wanted to clear up some things. I'll start with the objective facts:
I stayed for 3 nights, Thurs-Saturday. From working the numbers, the bar girls are not worth it. They typically fuck you for 15 minutes total. The rest of the time is spent walking around your room, using your shower, and getting dressed. The girls factor in their "prep" time after having sex into your 30 minutes of time. So basically, they spend 10 minutes just showering, getting dressed, and leaving, and taking it off the top of your time. This is the default for most of the girls there.
Now for my thoughts on this: again, as a customer you should never have to stand up for yourself. This is my opinion, but when you hold the dollars, you should be getting exactly what you want. You shouldn't have to negotiate further. It's a simple transaction: here's the money, now deliver me the quality service. If you don't get the quality service, then the girl is a piece of shit and you shouldn't see her again. The problem is almost all the bar girls give shit service. They've been conditioned to do so. They don't care about customer service as another user mentioned. The system is set up to extract as much money from stupid gringos as possible because a ton cycle through Hong Kong every weekend. It's very profitable for Hong Kong and the girls, and not a great service for you, the customer. The solution? Don't go to Hong Kong. Don't go to the bars. Seriously. It's really that simple. Of course there will be the never ending stream of gringos going in and out of Hong Kong. But as long as you are smart enough to steer clear and get the service that your money is worth, then you are ALL good.
I recommend street girls and maybe escorts (have never done escorts). Street girls are very cheap and you can find girls that are just as hot. Honestly you're better off finding 3-5 girls that you really like and that give good service, getting their contact info, and setting up private paid dates with them through messaging. That's probably the most effective way to use your money.
As far as the "$20 to fuck a fleshlight" statement: let's be honest, a majority of the bar girls taking $80 for 15 minutes don't give a girlfriend experience anyway.
ScatManDoo
08-13-19, 17:32
You shouldn't say $100 for 30 minutes, it's not 30 minutes. It's only 15 minutes of sex. I've been to Hong Kong, I've seen the girls. The amount of time you get of dick inside her and actual fucking is 15 minutes. The girl spends 5 minutes walking around your room, another 5 minutes playing in your shower, then she shaves the last 5 minutes off and leaves early as a courtesy cause she likes to steal money. So really they are false advertising since it should be "$100 for 25 minutes". But again, only 15 minutes of actual sex.You actually got a Hong Kong chica to go in the shower before having sex?
Good for you!
OrganicAlo
08-13-19, 18:21
So I'm back home from my trip and I just wanted to clear up some things. I'll start with the objective facts:
I stayed for 3 nights, Thurs-Saturday. From working the numbers, the bar girls are not worth it. They typically fuck you for 15 minutes total. The rest of the time is spent walking around your room, using your shower, and getting dressed. The girls factor in their "prep" time after having sex into your 30 minutes of time. So basically, they spend 10 minutes just showering, getting dressed, and leaving, and taking it off the top of your time. This is the default for most of the girls there.
Now for my thoughts on this: again, as a customer you should never have to stand up for yourself. This is my opinion, but when you hold the dollars, you should be getting exactly what you want. You shouldn't have to negotiate further. It's a simple transaction: here's the money, now deliver me the quality service. If you don't get the quality service, then the girl is a piece of shit and you shouldn't see her again. The problem is almost all the bar girls give shit service. They've been conditioned to do so. They don't care about customer service as another user mentioned. The system is set up to extract as much money from stupid gringos as possible because a ton cycle through Hong Kong every weekend. It's very profitable for Hong Kong and the girls, and not a great service for you, the customer..You went on the busiest days bro, it's been said several times on here if you want GFE your going to have a hard time finding it in HK on the weekends. Just curious, how many bargirls were you with over your trip?
Don't forget, regardless of them being sex workers, they are still women LOL. YMMV.
Captain Solo
08-13-19, 18:42
Yep. HK girls are really tough sharks. Most would play all kinds of tricks against you to make the most money doing the least work. They would milk you dry before granting you any close friendship. A few of my wingmen went dead broke with their favorite HK girls. They no longer remember who they were. I would only do the young and most attractive girls in HK, and they usually give me low local rates because they see me in HK often. A lot of average-looking new girls in HK think they can make $100 sessions. They make me laugh. I would let them go home hungry hehe.
Many street girls are as hot as bar girls. I like to see girls dress tastefully in street clothing like real, normal people to tattooed girls in slutty bikinis in the bar. A few street girls cannot work in HK due to the drinking and cigarette smoke.
Street girls' rates are so low that you can easily try many in bed and find those who will provide honest, sexy sessions. After a few repeats, you can develop rapports with the girls and most would treat you with friendly and sexy attitudes.
Member #4722
08-13-19, 22:59
You actually got a Hong Kong chica to go in the shower before having sex?
Good for you!Literally laughed out loud at this comment so true.
GoodQuestions
08-13-19, 23:26
I missed my opportunity to post about a similar topic recently so here I get a second chance. When I negotiate with street girls by giving them a rundown of what I want some of them stop me and say that I want full service. That can be a problem because if a chica sets her full service price at 500 pesos she might not shave off anything from her price. Maybe it's just me but I see red flags when a chica is unwilling to work with me downstairs. Unless she's offering me stuff other chicas aren't willing to offer.
It goes without saying that I negotiate differently with any given chicas. So here's where I go back and forth on the how much question. It's better to lead in the dance. So you mine as well throw a number. On the flip side there's chicas that no matter what you ask for her price is 200 or 300 pesos. So you could end up overpaying if 300 pesos is your offer or end up giving her what she wanted. A conversation for another day is that chicas in La Zona don't agree on pussy price.
What I want to bring up is that we post on these sites because we want to collude against chicas. But what about those times when we feel we won. Back when I used to report about going up with bargirls at AB for say $40 or anything under $60 should I have reported that? I recently got word that AB has been firing chicas for charging mongers less than $60. I think this may be true because I haven't seen a chica that supposedly got fired cause of this. I can think of another chica that charged me $40 that's not there anymore. That was some time ago though. Another chica told me to keep my mouth shut. And she charged me less than $40. I don't know if this is a thing but sounds about true. If it's happening we don't need to post on these boards to get them in trouble cause there could be a scenario where we can low ball three chicas. The third one accepts the offer and the other two turn on her. So I'm interested to hear about any thoughts on this.
ScatManDoo
08-14-19, 00:51
should I have reported that? I recently got word that AB has been firing chicas for charging mongers less than $60. I think this may be true because I haven't seen a chica that supposedly got fired cause of this. I can think of another chica that charged me $40 that's not there anymore. That was some time ago though. Another chica told me to keep my mouth shut. And she charged me less than $40. I don't know if this is a thing but sounds about true. If it's happening we don't need to post on these boards to get them in trouble cause there could be a scenario where we can low ball three chicas. The third one accepts the offer and the other two turn on her. So I'm interested to hear about any thoughts on this.I can't speak to your base question about whether we should report good deals with chica stage names on this cite. Despite rumors, I don't know who in bar management reads these monger cites. I often report my deals with street girls and walkers, who have much less direct supervision.
Whenever I'm negotiating pesos with a street girl, I do it in whispers in her ear so her wallmates can't hear. And when it comes to sex acts sin condom, that discussion always happens up in my room and never on the sidewalk.
RikyMichaels7
08-14-19, 04:03
I used to frequent clip joints in La Coahuila. The bullshit hustle, including the asshole at the entrance charging you 7 dollars for a beer to get in, the girls trying to milk you out of every dime thinking they are the goddesses of this world, the pushy waiters. This shit gets too old. I suggest changing things up and going out to Las Pulgas or some of the other clubs in Tijuana. I meet a variety of non-putas. Either those working in a factory or many that are wealthy. My experiences with these girls is that they are very friendly and appreciative. It is so refreshing to be away from that shitty HK scene. Many of you know what I mean. You've just gotten tired of the money grabbing pay me for my time bitches and scene.
I had a girl in HK take 80 dollars of mine and the knock on the door came in 13 minutes. And then she had the nerve to ask for a propina. Fuck this place. Everybody should boycott Hong Kong and put these narcissistic women and their thieving owners and Managers out of business.
This girl that I paid 80 dollars for with a 13 minutes knock on the door. I got pissed at her and called her a thief and pendeja. Her reply was "You're the stupid one, paying 8.00 a drink all night for women that you think really like you. They don't give a shit about you. And you are a loser for paying women to have sex.
Hey,
I'm going there for the first time during Halloween. Any advice? Oh, and I'm a non-smoker. Is HK a non-smoking bar? Also, do the majority of the putas smoke (gross)?
ScatManDoo
08-14-19, 15:13
Hey,
I'm going there for the first time during Halloween. Any advice? Oh, and I'm a non-smoker. Is HK a non-smoking bar? Also, do the majority of the putas smoke (gross)?HK bar is filled with people smoking inside. Many of the chica's smoke.
If you are annoyed by smoke, you likely will not enjoy being inside of Hong Kong Bar.
The hotel above HK bar is called Cascades. On Cascades' website, they advertise that some of their hotel rooms are non-smoking rooms.
OrganicAlo
08-14-19, 15:32
Her reply was "You're the stupid one, paying 8.00 a drink all night for women that you think really like you. They don't give a shit about you. And you are a loser for paying women to have sex.Daaam, that hurts, not sure how I would've responded to that. LMAO!
Hey,
I'm going there for the first time during Halloween. Any advice? Oh, and I'm a non-smoker. Is HK a non-smoking bar? Also, do the majority of the putas smoke (gross)?No, lot's of cig smoke in the air. A good majority of the girls smoke cigs / mota.
Two bring two girls up is the price of the room the same? For an hour is the price of the room still the same compared to 30 minutes?
Eh cut the guy a break. The premise of what he's saying is not untrue. The service at HK is horrendous, borderline criminal at times, that's not breaking any new news. Most of these girls are in clip joint mode and have very little social skills. But I think everyone's POV is right. If you try hard enough you can find a GFE girl that will rock your world. That possibility is there, heck there's gems in any bar and any agency. You just have to follow the scent and seek them out. But not everyone is a regular that goes weekly or monthly and has the time to put in. I personally don't care for sessions at HK anymore for reasons that were mentioned, but it's an amazing place to drink and get a buzz. Maybe the best bar in the world.
Two bring two girls up is the price of the room the same? For an hour is the price of the room still the same compared to 30 minutes?You pay double for the room if you bring up two girls.
For one girl, a full hour is $15 more. For an hour for two or more girls, I will need to use my calculator; math is hard!
Looking to go on Friday but during the daytime. Comparatively speaking will the talent still be top tier?
GoodQuestions
08-14-19, 23:06
I can't speak to your base question about whether we should report good deals with chica stage names on this cite. Despite rumors, I don't know who in bar management reads these monger cites. I often report my deals with street girls and walkers, who have much less direct supervision.
Whenever I'm negotiating pesos with a street girl, I do it in whispers in her ear so her wallmates can't hear. And when it comes to sex acts sin condom, that discussion always happens up in my room and never on the sidewalk.Yeah I thought this wouldn't apply to street girls because they give good deals and a lot of them are still around. I'the like to think that management leaves the heavy lifting to the chicas to come to these sites and read up on any chicas offering mongers deals they can't refuse. But in all seriousness they most likely need to be caught in the act.
I've had chicas stare at me in approval of what I'm asking but paranoid her friends will hear. In a recent start a chica said we should move over so some guys wouldn't hear. I don't think they were connected to her but she didn't want anyone listening. I think it was earlier this year where a chica told me up in the room that she'the do BBBJ for a little more. The one thing I didn't like about this is I thought about it for a bit. I didn't have my own room so the time was ticking. I went for it but I don't like burning time.
GoodQuestions
08-14-19, 23:21
Yep. HK girls are really tough sharks. Most would play all kinds of tricks against you to make the most money doing the least work. They would milk you dry before granting you any close friendship. A few of my wingmen went dead broke with their favorite HK girls. They no longer remember who they were.This is why I'm not in any danger of getting into a romantic relationship with working chicas. I think the key is I don't spend a lot of money on them so they don't pretend they love me.
You pay double for the room if you bring up two girls.
For one girl, a full hour is $15 more. For an hour for two or more girls, I will need to use my calculator; math is hard!So looking at it at the cheapest scenario, two girls for 60 each. Room is 40 for both. BBBJ upsell is what 20 more, x 2 is 40.200 sounds right?
You actually got a Hong Kong chica to go in the shower before having sex?
Good for you!Never had a problem. This is understood up front down below or no go. I think the cleanliness element, aside from being well groomed top & bottom, enhances chicks image of you and relaxes them. Of course if you're a pig you'll need all the help you can get.
KC Questor
08-15-19, 04:35
Looking to go on Friday but during the daytime. Comparatively speaking will the talent still be top tier?The talent will still be impressive, but the crowds will be smaller. Weekend days are my favorite time in Hong Kong. Not crowded enough to be claustrophobic, but still a nice selection of girls.
KC Questor
08-15-19, 04:39
So looking at it at the cheapest scenario, two girls for 60 each. Room is 40 for both. BBBJ upsell is what 20 more, x 2 is 40.200 sounds right?You'll be lucky to get two girls to agree to a threesome for $60 each unless they are the ones approaching you, as a "team". If you are flirting and buying fichas for them both at your table, you could offer it as kind of a package deal. Maybe even offer in pesos to make it sound bigger. Saying they can split 2500 pesos sounds impressive, even if it is only like $66 each.
It's also harder to negotiate BBBJ with two girls, because neither of them wants the other one to think that they are doing it without a condom (again, unless they are a "team"). I always have my own room, but it surprises me that they charge double for two girls. Still, I'd be prepared for that. Worst case will be $200 for 30 minutes without BBBJ.
You'll be lucky to get two girls to agree to a threesome for $60 each unless they are the ones approaching you, as a "team". If you are flirting and buying fichas for them both at your table, you could offer it as kind of a package deal. Maybe even offer in pesos to make it sound bigger. Saying they can split 2500 pesos sounds impressive, even if it is only like $66 each.
It's also harder to negotiate BBBJ with two girls, because neither of them wants the other one to think that they are doing it without a condom (again, unless they are a "team"). I always have my own room, but it surprises me that they charge double for two girls. Still, I'd be prepared for that. Worst case will be $200 for 30 minutes without BBBJ.Can anyone on here comment if they have experience with threesomes BBBJ?
The Tall Man
08-15-19, 16:36
Went in HK about 8:30. Lots of hot girls working in HK.
Rose was dancing on bar Kowloon. Marilyn AKA Lydia is back dancing on the front stage. She had a baby and gained some weight. She used to have the prettiest face and the sexiest, most perfect body and was one of the most popular girl in HK.
Andrea was back. She would do a cheap toda al noche. Krystal was leaning on the rail BS with her friends. Ximena was dancing on the bar. My new wingman liked her doll face and her tall, fit body. He was going to go for her. I had to tell him she is cold, stiff, unresponsive in bed.
Kitty / Cici texted me "Estoy en mi periodo. " The bros can guess what she meant. Brenda, student from Ensenada, texted me she would be in HK by 9 but never arrived until 10:30, after I had popped and gulped down lots of food and beers. I lost control of my dick and had to abort the mission hehe. Was looking for Pasha but she has not worked for 2 weeks. WTF? Those are her pics.Yes Captain Life is Good! Keep those cuties happy as I do the same here in Medellin. This shit is so addicting. I am off to see my 19 yo favorite non-pro university paisa chica who could easily be a teen model for Abercrombie & Fitch clothing.
I don't want to show her face but here is her back side, ohhhh so fresh.
Life is good!
The Tall Man.
Can anyone on here comment if they have experience with threesomes BBBJ?Yes, I've had that experience before. They know each other though. If they don't know each other it's way harder to get BBBJ.
Yes, I've had that experience before. They know each other though. If they don't know each other it's way harder to get BBBJ.How much did you spend? Room, tips, services, etc.
ScatManDoo
08-16-19, 02:47
Can anyone on here comment if they have experience with threesomes BBBJ?Dozens and dozens of times, but all with Tijuana street walkers, not bar girls.
I used to frequent clip joints in La Coahuila. The bullshit hustle, including the asshole at the entrance charging you 7 dollars for a beer to get in, the girls trying to milk you out of every dime thinking they are the goddesses of this world, the pushy waiters. This shit gets too old. I suggest changing things up and going out to Las Pulgas or some of the other clubs in Tijuana. I meet a variety of non-putas. Either those working in a factory or many that are wealthy. My experiences with these girls is that they are very friendly and appreciative. It is so refreshing to be away from that shitty HK scene. Many of you know what I mean. You've just gotten tired of the money grabbing pay me for my time bitches and scene.
I had a girl in HK take 80 dollars of mine and the knock on the door came in 13 minutes. And then she had the nerve to ask for a propina. Fuck this place. Everybody should boycott Hong Kong and put these narcissistic women and their thieving owners and Managers out of business.
This girl that I paid 80 dollars for with a 13 minutes knock on the door. I got pissed at her and called her a thief and pendeja. Her reply was "You're the stupid one, paying 8.00 a drink all night for women that you think really like you. They don't give a shit about you. And you are a loser for paying women to have sex.I get what you are saying. The revolution clubs are a nice break from having to pay for a woman's attention. The Mexican woman especially love the Haitian men. Those guys do well. They are all in perfect shape. I guess because they all worked in construction in Brazil. But yeah Hong Kong, is best in limited doses. Anyone going two days in a row, if not wealthy is going to be kicking themselves especially if they go every three weeks or more. Millionaires pay for sex. Billionaires pay for 60 dollar blow jobs in Florida massage parlors. So paying for sex doesn't mean you can't get it free. I'd say 90% of the guys in Hong Kong could get a in shape woman free from dating app, if they just fib about their career a bit. I'm way below average and still get free sex online dating. But Hong Kong is more for entertainment. I can go, spend 150 dollars for 4 hours of food beer and sex. I use beer coupons and bring quarters to tip 50 cents a beer, because the waiters are annoying. There's to many, you buy a girl a drink every thirty seconds another waiters lifting her drink to hope it's empty.
How much did you spend? Room, tips, services, etc.I have my own room with HK VIP card discounts. There's no dreaded knock so I can take my time. You should too instead of paying double the price $36 for two girls. $60 each for HK girls (DFK, BBBJ, CFS). $20 for two drinks in HK, $1 for HK doorman.
I have my own room with HK VIP card discounts. There's no dreaded knock so I can take my time. You should too instead of paying double the price $36 for two girls. $60 each for HK girls (DFK, BBBJ, CFS). $20 for two drinks in HK, $1 for HK doorman.Correct me if I'm wrong but I'the vip for the rooms on the upper level? I thought VIP was only for private strip shows? I'm only down in San Diego every few months so is it with it to get VIP?
I missed my opportunity to post about a similar topic recently so here I get a second chance. When I negotiate with street girls by giving them a rundown of what I want some of them stop me and say that I want full service. That can be a problem because if a chica sets her full service price at 500 pesos she might not shave off anything from her price. Maybe it's just me but I see red flags when a chica is unwilling to work with me downstairs. Unless she's offering me stuff other chicas aren't willing to offer.
It goes without saying that I negotiate differently with any given chicas. So here's where I go back and forth on the how much question. It's better to lead in the dance. So you mine as well throw a number. On the flip side there's chicas that no matter what you ask for her price is 200 or 300 pesos. So you could end up overpaying if 300 pesos is your offer or end up giving her what she wanted. A conversation for another day is that chicas in La Zona don't agree on pussy price.
What I want to bring up is that we post on these sites because we want to collude against chicas. But what about those times when we feel we won. Back when I used to report about going up with bargirls at AB for say $40 or anything under $60 should I have reported that? I recently got word that AB has been firing chicas for charging mongers less than $60. I think this may be true because I haven't seen a chica that supposedly got fired cause of this. I can think of another chica that charged me $40 that's not there anymore. That was some time ago though. Another chica told me to keep my mouth shut. And she charged me less than $40. I don't know if this is a thing but sounds about true. If it's happening we don't need to post on these boards to get them in trouble cause there could be a scenario where we can low ball three chicas. The third one accepts the offer and the other two turn on her. So I'm interested to hear about any thoughts on this.Well I hope that what you're saying about AB firing girls for lowering their prices isn't true, that would be a direct violation of the law, the girls have to be freelancers and pimping is against the law, interfering with negotiations on price and services by a third person is pimping.
What are the general costs of the food at HK? Where's good places to eat?
Well I hope that what you're saying about AB firing girls for lowering their prices isn't true, that would be a direct violation of the law, the girls have to be freelancers and pimping is against the law, interfering with negociations on price and services by a third person is pimping.LOL you must not be from Mexico. The only law is gringos can't have guns. I'm not aware of any other laws being serious in Mexico. Anyway, all the clubs girls tell me they are not allowed lower than "certain prices". New girls especially get stuck at higher amount.
Well I hope that what you're saying about AB firing girls for lowering their prices isn't true, that would be a direct violation of the law, the girls have to be freelancers and pimping is against the law, interfering with negociations on price and services by a third person is pimping.You can't be serious. The clubs could care fucking less what the girls are charging, as long as they sell fichas. If the chicas need money, they drop their prices; so be it.
You can't be serious. The clubs could care fucking less what the girls are charging, as long as they sell fichas. If the chicas need money, they drop their prices; so be it.Market forces dictate that should prices rise, demand can drop. Conversely if demand rises, prices can increase. In this case, if prices are more or less the same across most venues, consumers will gravitate towards the place of higher value. I doubt that regulations against price fixing or pimping will dissuade owners from doing whatever necessary to increase market share and their bottom line. Viva Mexico! What a town!
KC Questor
08-17-19, 23:59
What possible benefit could a girl have to tell you that she is not allowed to drop her prices? I mean when she says "I'd love to accept $40 for sex from old fat men, but the bar simply won't allow me to. I have to charge you at least $60", surely she has no reason to lie.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'the vip for the rooms on the upper level? I thought VIP was only for private strip shows? I'm only down in San Diego every few months so is it with it to get VIP?I'm talking about the hotel not VIP rooms on the upper level.
Depends on how many days you're staying. If you're not doing overnights not worth it.
$50 dollars for VIP card. Good for 3 months. Do the math!
TerOnlyOnce
08-18-19, 07:11
Hong Kong is basically a rip off LOL. The place is not customer focused. The entire bar is geared towards extracting as much money from customers as possible. For example, on a Friday and Saturday night you have some big fat Mexican at the door charging everyone $7 to get into the club and giving them a beer.
I remember Saturday night while I was there, I had a hotel room and was trying to get into Hong Kong. I see this big ass line spilling out into the sidewalk. The line was filled with tons of gringos, all getting super excited to enter HK. I'm thinking "what the fuck is this line and why is it taking forever? Then I get to the front and I see the big fat Mexican with a roll of US bills, collecting money from each person and giving them change, ROFL fuck off man. Seriously. Fuck out of here with that. They're trying to turn this shit into the shit show that is US strip joints. Which is basically to over charge customers are much as possible. Make them buy expensive drinks just to stay in the club. Under deliver services to them. Extract extract extract. Fucking parasites man.
This is why I don't fuck with that Hong Kong shit anymore. Why go to these bars when they under deliver and don't give a fuck about their customers. Fuck them, they are trolls and are out to make money, plain and simple. It may work on the typical jack ass that gets mesmerized by a 10/10 ass and titties. But it won't work on rational dudes that know what their money is worth, and are capable of finding cost effective prostitutes to bang.
But anyway, back to Hong Kong: the girls are no better than the club itself. They charge $80 for 15 minutes of sex. People here are talking about getting a threesome from HK. LOL. I can guarantee you with 99% certainty that a threesome from HK is not worth it, at all. First of all each girl will demand a stupid high number. Something like $120 per girl for like 30 minutes of sex. Something stupid high in cost and stupid low in service. Also, I guarantee it will not be all that great. Probably super mechanical with the girls spending most of the time making out and playing with each other. And if you are expecting the double blowjob, don't count it. The girls have no obligation whatsoever to give you a double blowjob.
See, the most common problem with paying prostitutes is that you want to find one that actually likes her job and what she does. Most of these Mexican girls could give a fuck about you and are there to collect their money. Now you have two of these girls, and you expect them to give you a double blowjob? Good luck. Even if they do give you a double blowjob (they will probably charge more for it), I guarantee you that it will be suck and won't be worth it at all. First of all, it is going to be a covered double blowjob, good luck with that. And second, the total blowjob time will be 10 minutes MAX, I guarantee you that. These girls won't do anymore work than they have to. Therefore, expect at the most 10 minutes of cock in mouth action. Also, don't expect a porno experience with both girls sharing your cock at the same time. I would expect something like one girl sucking you off for a bit while the other watches, and then they alternate. Basically, it's not going to be fun, kinky, nor super exciting. It will most likely be boring and mechanical. It won't even be a double blowjob. It will be 2 girls giving you a separate blowjob each.
So yeah, personally I wouldn't bother with threesomes at all. It is a scam, period. A threesome is basically the ultimate upsell for a pair of putas (bitches). They know they can charge a stupid high number and basically get away with doing marginal work. Guys light up when they hear threesome. The girls know this, so they pump the price to $120-140 per girl. It's fucking stupid. Would rather just get a street girl for 1/12th of the cost and still have a good experience.
The Hong Kong girls are a joke man. $80 for 15 minutes of sex? What a fucking joke LOL. Street girls all the way.
And to expand on the pricing for threesomes: sure you can negotiate the price and service for a threesome prior to taking the girls up, if you know some Spanish. But you're never going to get a good deal, I guarantee you that. You will never get a solid and cost effective deal to be honest. It will always be more in favor of the two girls. For example: $120 per girl for 30 minutes. $200 per girl for an hour, double blowjob no condom +$40 per girl. Trust me, you're never going to win here. The girls will charge you exorbitant amounts, it's just not worth it. The bar and Hong Kong are not customer friendly environments, you will almost never come out on top. Which is why you should stop going to these places if you want to at all get your money's worth.
You can't be serious. The clubs could care fucking less what the girls are charging, as long as they sell fichas. If the chicas need money, they drop their prices; so be it.I talked to one girl in Tropical. She said she used to work at HK but glad she's out. Said it was very high stress and brutal management pushing for the chicks to make the club money.
What possible benefit could a girl have to tell you that she is not allowed to drop her prices? I mean when she says "I'd love to accept $40 for sex from old fat men, but the bar simply won't allow me to. I have to charge you at least $60", surely she has no reason to lie.It's obvious, she's hustling. Her getting $60 is better than getting only $40. If the fat slob turns her down then she doesn't have to go with the fat slob. It's a win win for her.
KC Questor
08-18-19, 19:37
Hong Kong is basically a rip off LOL.God damn, dude, we get it. You don't like Hong Kong. Fine. No one is making you go there.
The place is not customer focused. The entire bar is geared towards extracting as much money from customers as possible.
Fuck them, they are trolls and are out to make money, plain and simple.HAHAHAHAHA, shocking! Who would have thought that the owners of a Mexican strip club are interested in making as much money as possible?
They charge $80 for 15 minutes of sex.Back to this again? Man, give it up. Just because you finish quick doesn't mean the rest of us do. If you treat the girls right you'll get your full time. By the way, with the VIP you get 45 minutes for the same rate.
I can guarantee you with 99% certainty that a threesome from HK is not worth it, at all.On this we agree.
I remember Saturday night while I was there, I had a hotel room and was trying to get into Hong Kong. I see this big ass line spilling out into the sidewalk. The line was filled with tons of gringos, all getting super excited to enter HK. I'm thinking "what the fuck is this line and why is it taking forever?
The bar and Hong Kong are not customer friendly environments, you will almost never come out on top. Which is why you should stop going to these places if you want to at all get your money's worth.Maybe stop going on a Saturday night. Everyone knows that it is the worst time to be there if fucking girls cheap is your main goal. If you have to be there on a Saturday, try the other clubs like Bar Tropical, Las Chavelas, Chicago. Or just stick with the street girls like you suggest. Save Hong Kong for the days or slower nights when the girls are genuinely happy to see you and provide amazing customer service.
KC Questor
08-18-19, 19:43
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'the vip for the rooms on the upper level? I thought VIP was only for private strip shows? I'm only down in San Diego every few months so is it with it to get VIP?It gets confusing. VIP is a Hong Kong membership card. If you have the HK VIP card you get a good deal on overnight rooms in the Cascadas hotel, and you get longer time if you are just bringing a girl up for a short time visit. But there aren't "VIP rooms at Cascadas". Now, with the 80% VIP discount on Monday and Tuesday, you can get the fancy rooms super cheap, so I guess you might call those "VIP rooms".
Hong Kong itself does have VIP rooms ("skyboxes" which are private rooms for groups to party inside the club. But they are not part of the hotel. You do not have to be a VIP member to reserve a VIP skybox in Hong Kong. You can have sex in the skyboxes, but you'll usually need to buy a bottle or a bucket of beers to keep the meseros away.
As for is it worth it to get VIP? It depends on if you will use the card enough in the three months to balance the $50.
https://hktijuana.com/vip-services.php
If you are staying at Cascadas, the hotel discount could make it worthwhile on a single night if you get the Master Suite on a Monday (saves $90). You get a free drink every day, so that's $5 per day. I don't care about the free parking and the personal waiter is a joke. The extended time is nice if you aren't staying in your own room. If you go on a Friday or Saturday you bypass the cover charge, which saves you $7 every time you go in and out.
The entire bar is geared towards extracting as much money from customers as possible.I'm shocked, simply shocked, to hear this!
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Hong Kong is basically a rip off LOL. The place is not customer focused. The entire bar is geared towards extracting as much money from customers as possible. For example, on a Friday and Saturday night you have some big fat Mexican at the door charging everyone $7 to get into the club and giving them a beer.
I remember Saturday night while I was there, I had a hotel room and was trying to get into Hong Kong. I see this big ass line spilling out into the sidewalk. The line was filled with tons of gringos, all getting super excited to enter HK. I'm thinking "what the fuck is this line and why is it taking forever? Then I get to the front and I see the big fat Mexican with a roll of US bills, collecting money from each person and giving them change, ROFL fuck off man. Seriously. Fuck out of here with that. They're trying to turn this shit into the shit show that is US strip joints. Which is basically to over charge customers are much as possible. Make them buy expensive drinks just to stay in the club. Under deliver services to them. Extract extract extract. Fucking parasites man..You are approaching Hong Kong incorrectly. It's intended for men who fly into San Diego specifically to bang six woman in 2 days. They already invested 300 in travel to get to Hong Kong. And most drop about a grand in Hong Kong, between sex, tips, drinks, Azul, etc. If you aren't a free spender, go to Hong Kong for free essentially. Get a 12 dollar room, two free beers, free breakfast, use limo back to border, you can spend 20 a night with a hotel. 40 a night would be more reasonable so you can throw singles at them every 15 minutes. I bought VIP, and two months in I saved probably 350 dollars. I spent 100 in a month on drinks for woman, 400 for sex, maybe hundred single tips. So 500. Sex maybe 9 times, street girls included. But I saved 700 in hotels I would of needed. So the sex was free.
VasyaPetya
08-20-19, 07:08
To be pedantic, the rooms are not located inside the club. You must exit and then enter the hotel associated with that club, with a couple of exceptions.
You must pay for the room each time, unless you rent a room for the night. Of course, if you rent a room for the night, you're limited to the girls who work in the associated bars. Exceptions are HK, TB and LC, which are all owned by the same group, so you can use either Cascadas or Rizo de Oro.
The sessions are normally 30 MINUTES, not 1 hour, unless you negotiate such, and pay more.
Yes, you do need to have a drink. As KC said, bottled water is fine. Yes, you should buy the girls a drink, just to see if there's any "attraction. " It may not be "mandatory" to buy a drink for a girl, but it is strongly encouraged by management. There has been much debate as to whether or not the girls have drink quotas. I always assume they do, and on the rare occasions I'm in a club I will buy them one.I'm a bit late, but I really appreciate the info. Good to know for the next time I go. Thanks my friend.
I'm shocked, simply shocked, to hear this!For TerOnlyOnce. Maybe Hong Kong, Adelita and Zona Norte are not perfect but please give me the address of a legal brothel in San Diego, LOS Angeles or San Francisco where I can pay for legal sex service in a legal brothel $ 60 - $ 80 with beautiful Latina girl?. There is no such legal brothel because politicians and feminists know better that legal prostitution is bad for us and is illegal in California. It is hard for me to complain about the service in Zona Norte if in the USA, except for a few counties far away in the hot desert in Nevada, prostitution is illegal. BTW I heard in a brothel in Nevada HJ start at $ 250! So my advice is enjoy legal prostitution in Tijuana only 10 min from the border.
Hawaiian Ice
08-20-19, 09:45
Hi all,
I am coming into San Diego Friday morning and will spend all day at Hong Kong for my 1st visit. It's been great reading all your comments. I am not the typical customer and have some unique questions.
First off, I am not looking for FS but BBBJ and will pay whatever it takes for an 8-10 type girl. I know I could take a girl upstairs and offer an extra $100 and probably get it, but I'm looking for it to happen more organically. So I'm wondering what my best course of action is to take at HK for this to happen? Buy a girl a lot of drinks and she how 'frisky' she is and then buy 4-6 dances and offer nice tips? Or do you think this a losing cause? Perhaps there are some other clubs in Tijuana that don't have a hotel attached and are known for really great lap dances since that's where they make their money. Any advice would be appreciated.
Also, I am planning to park at the border, walk across and take a cab. I feel like my pockets will be completely full: phone, wallet, condoms (in case I can't find BBBJ), powder (to keep fresh), passport, gum, etc. Does HK have lockers you can rent? Any advice what to take? Is the phone a mistake? Do they typically work in Tijuana?
A review at Deja Vu says you can sit and make out with a girl all day long if you buy her a drink now and then. That sounds kinda fun. Any truth to that? And how does DJV compare to HK? Is it worth trying if I'll be in Tijuana all day?
Any advice is greatly appreciated as this may be my one and only time visiting Tijuana. Thanks in advance.
TunaSlayer
08-20-19, 18:28
Hi all,
I am coming into San Diego Friday morning and will spend all day at Hong Kong for my 1st visit. It's been great reading all your comments. I am not the typical customer and have some unique questions.
First off, I am not looking for FS but BBBJ and will pay whatever it takes for an 8-10 type girl. I know I could take a girl upstairs and offer an extra $100 and probably get it, but I'm looking for it to happen more organically. So I'm wondering what my best course of action is to take at HK for this to happen? Buy a girl a lot of drinks and she how 'frisky' she is and then buy 4-6 dances and offer nice tips? Or do you think this a losing cause? Perhaps there are some other clubs in Tijuana that don't have a hotel attached and are known for really great lap dances since that's where they make their money. Any advice would be appreciated.
Also, I am planning to park at the border, walk across and take a cab. I feel like my pockets will be completely full: phone, wallet, condoms (in case I can't find BBBJ), powder (to keep fresh), passport, gum, etc. Does HK have lockers you can rent? Any advice what to take? Is the phone a mistake? Do they typically work in Tijuana?
A review at Deja Vu says you can sit and make out with a girl all day long if you buy her a drink now and then. That sounds kinda fun. Any truth to that? And how does DJV compare to HK? Is it worth trying if I'll be in Tijuana all day?
Any advice is greatly appreciated as this may be my one and only time visiting Tijuana. Thanks in advance.Ho because. You from Hawaii?
Best tip I can give you is tell her what you want first or you will get disappointed. I have gotten BBBJ at HK before but it was the 2nd or 3rd time going upstairs. I had one chick tell me no but gave me the best BBBJ later in the room. Some girls you meet will be cold as ice at first so buying a drink, tip and couple trips upstairs will loosen them up. If your main goal is to get BBBJ then maybe a agency will be your best route. If you are planning on staying awhile and taking a few trips upstairs then getting a room at Cascadas would be a good option. Anything I don't want to bring in the club I leave in the room. As for De Ja Vu, I've been there about a dozen times. There are some hot ones in there but also many fugly ones. It's nice that the chicks don't rush you and spend time chit chatting and lap dances. I normally go here when other clubs are packed. If you are limited on time and don't frequent Tijuana then I wouldn't recommend. HK is where it's at.
Shoots brah.
Scudrucker
08-20-19, 20:31
Hong Kong is a clipjoint, dancebar, *house, Disney, whatever you make of it. There must be something about it because ever since I walked past that curtain several years ago, I keep flying for 13 hrs and clear customs from 2 countries to get back.
Definitely can drain your resources but the trick is to swim with the sharks without getting eaten.
To Hawaiian ice, not aware of lockers but I have often checked a bag at the vip counter as you walk in.
BBBJ is very hit and miss. You often have to know the girl at least a little but there have been occasions where girls were walking around whispering the offer as they walked by.
I cannot comment on Dega Vu.
OrganicAlo
08-20-19, 21:31
Also, I am planning to park at the border, walk across and take a cab. I feel like my pockets will be completely full: phone, wallet, condoms (in case I can't find BBBJ), powder (to keep fresh), passport, gum, etc. Does HK have lockers you can rent? Any advice what to take? Is the phone a mistake? Do they typically work in Tijuana?
A review at Deja Vu says you can sit and make out with a girl all day long if you buy her a drink now and then. That sounds kinda fun. Any truth to that? And how does DJV compare to HK? Is it worth trying if I'll be in Tijuana all day?
Any advice is greatly appreciated as this may be my one and only time visiting Tijuana. Thanks in advance.Bring a bag too put your stuff in, you can leave it at the HK customer service.
I wouldn't leave anything to valuable in it tho.
KC Questor
08-20-19, 22:48
I am coming into San Diego Friday morning and will spend all day at Hong Kong for my 1st visit. It's been great reading all your comments. I am not the typical customer and have some unique questions.I think you need to read through a lot more of this forum. These questions indicate that you may not have done all the research you should have.
First off, I am not looking for FS but BBBJ and will pay whatever it takes for an 8-10 type girl. I know I could take a girl upstairs and offer an extra $100 and probably get it, but I'm looking for it to happen more organically. So I'm wondering what my best course of action is to take at HK for this to happen? Buy a girl a lot of drinks and she how 'frisky' she is and then buy 4-6 dances and offer nice tips? Or do you think this a losing cause?Some girls will do anything for an extra tip. Some won't do anything extra for any amount of money. You need to be clear and interview the girl before you take her up. Set firm expectations. "I want oral no condom" -- they will understand that even if you don't speak any spanish at all. If she HAS to be an 8-10 and you HAVE to have BBBJ, you may have to tip. But don't tip an extra $100. Why would you do that? The basic rate for a hottie is $80. Less during slow times, more during busy times. If you are going to offer a tip for BBBJ, make it $20. Not $100.
Also, I am planning to park at the border, walk across and take a cab. I feel like my pockets will be completely full: phone, wallet, condoms (in case I can't find BBBJ), powder (to keep fresh), passport, gum, etc. Does HK have lockers you can rent? Any advice what to take? Is the phone a mistake? Do they typically work in Tijuana?Are you just going for the day? You don't need much. Powder? Not sure what that is about. I can keep a phone, wallet, condoms, passport and money in my pockets. I leave the gum at home -- but you can buy it in Mexico if you need it. There are no lockers, but you can leave a small bag at the front desk for a tip of a couple of bucks. Don't leave anything valuable.
Check with your carrier to see if your phone will work in Tijuana. Most will but you may get charged roaming and you may need to set up some international service. Or if it is just for the day you could forget about your phone for a little while.
A review at Deja Vu says you can sit and make out with a girl all day long if you buy her a drink now and then. That sounds kinda fun. Any truth to that? And how does DJV compare to HK? Is it worth trying if I'll be in Tijuana all day?Don't go to Deja Vu. It is a ripoff. If you want a BJ, just go to Hong Kong. If you want to sit with a pretty girl you can do it there as well. You buy her a $9 drink every 15-20 minutes. That's the interview time. You can then send her on her way if she isn't very affectionate, or if she drinks too fast and wants another right away. Or you can suggest a trip upstairs. Or you buy her another drink for more interview time in the booth. Note that the hottest girls often don't want to sit around drinking beers, especially if the club is busy. They only make about $1. 50 of that $9, so if they think they can get an $80 trip upstairs instead, they'll be gone. Some of the most in demand girls won't even sit with you. They only go upstairs.
Good luck. Hope this isn't your only chance to visit Tijuana.
Hawaiian Ice
08-21-19, 01:18
Thanks for all the quick responses. You guys are great.
Maybe my first post was a little clunky. My main point is that I am not a big fan of just handing over money and then getting FS or a BBBJ. It's nothing moral or anything like that. I just like the thrill of the hunt and the surprise. Not knowing exactly what is going to happen. Maybe that makes me weird or something. I like foreplay and teasing. My favorite thing to do here in the states is go to a strip club and hope that maybe something extra could happen during a lap dance. I've received FS and BBBJ a several times and a HJ lots of times. But most of the time I don't. But it feels like a won the lottery when she asks if I want anything extra (for a fee of course). It's like randomly walking into an Asian massage parlor. Not knowing if they offer extras. And then after the massage she asks, "is there anything else you want?" It's like hitting a home run.
So I've always heard Tijuana was famous for its strip clubs, so I thought it would be the capital of lap dances with high mileage. That was probably stupid of me to assume in a city that has legal prostitution. So it is not about the BBBJ itself, but the chase and surprise of it all. So I got excited when I heard you can buy a lady drinks and make out and fondle all day and then move to lap dances and what I assumed could be likely high mileage. Maybe Tijuana isn't the city for me. I'm not sure. But If anybody knows of a strip club that doesn't have a hotel attached and gets most of their money from lap dances, I would be most appreciative. Or is this possible at all in the Hong Kong lap dance areas? Thanks in advance for any advice.
TerOnlyOnce
08-21-19, 02:26
A few things: $80 for 15 minutes is the gold standard at Hong Kong, fact. I showed up as a fresh gringo, completely new to the scene. Not a push over at all, limited Spanish. Went in with an open mind. My experience? $80 for 15 minutes. That's across the board. And no it's not because I finished too fast. 15 minutes is literally the standard time. I've been with over a dozen HK and bar girls now, this is what I've noticed.
They think they're smart, but they're not. You don't have to be a genius to realize you are being shorted on your time. You can tell. Once you start fucking her to when you finish up, it will be at the most 15 minutes of time, I guarantee you that. Just try it yourself. Get a HK girl and track the time of the session. Track the minute you actually start fucking her. And then just keep banging her and wait until she starts moaning and complaining "babyyy your time is up! You got to cum soon baby! She may not whine like that, but basically she will signal you that it's time to stop and finish. I guarantee you that this will happen at the 15 minute mark. Maybe even the 14 minute mark. Every little minute matters. When you're a customer, you should be getting your money's worth. These dumb girls don't understand that. Which is why I probably won't go to HK again or bar girls in general.
I remember one girl from Adelitas I saw. She spent like 3 minutes putting the condom on me. Then I touched the condom and she made me take it off and put on a new one. Like what the fuck? This dumb ***** is cheating me out of my time. I decide to just go with it. What the fuck am I suppose to say, no? I'm the fucking customer. So I put on another condom, another 3-4 minutes cause she's fucking taking her time and shit, being a little *****. She knows what she's doing, she knows she's shaving off so much time by being a ***** and taking forever. I'm like 7 minutes into this fucking session and I'm still not fucking the girl yet. What. The. Fuck. Now I only have like 8 minutes to fuck her. LOL. Seriously fuck. These. Girls. LOL. Most of them are awful. So god awful. No customer service whatsoever. No regard for the customer, at all. It's fucking terrible and awful. My advice is to find an all time favorite that actually gives a shit about what she does, and cling on to her like a mad man. The last thing you want is to go around "experimenting" with random dumb girls whose only intention is to suck you dry of money and provide you next to nothing. Believe me, HK and bars are full of these girls, almost every one.
As for someone saying: be lucky you can fuck these girls for $60-80. I agree with that, it's great. Which is why I recommend HK and the zona in general for first time visitors. After the first time though, it's pointless. The novelty wears off. After you fuck your first round of girls, you start to recognize this shit show for what it is. Then your experiences won't be the same anymore. Then you realize you're better off putting in a little more work and finding working girls that actually care about their customers. Whether that's through the street, escorts, or through other means.
You realize that the easy bar fuck with an HK girl is so fucking lame and bullshit in terms of service, and that you would rather save your money and put it to more effective uses. Probably the main thing you should take away from all of this.
SwerveCity
08-21-19, 06:35
Celebrating getting out of a shit relationship by visiting Hong Kong this Friday. First time in two years to Tijuana. Any fellow mongers interested in meeting up?
Captain Solo I owe you a beer simply for all the info you've provided LOL.
HK. Third level closed. $80/20 min knock. Not the 30 min. Shared imaginary contact on her part.
Copeco. Local on a night out.
CheckMate1
08-21-19, 16:54
A few things: $80 for 15 minutes is the gold standard at Hong Kong, fact. I showed up as a fresh gringo, completely new to the scene. Not a push over at all, limited Spanish. Went in with an open mind. My experience? $80 for 15 minutes. That's across the board. And no it's not because I finished too fast. 15 minutes is literally the standard time. I've been with over a dozen HK and bar girls now, this is what I've noticed.
They think they're smart, but they're not. You don't have to be a genius to realize you are being shorted on your time. You can tell. Once you start fucking her to when you finish up, it will be at the most 15 minutes of time, I guarantee you that. Just try it yourself. Get a HK girl and track the time of the session. Track the minute you actually start fucking her. And then just keep banging her and wait until she starts moaning and complaining "babyyy your time is up! You got to cum soon baby! She may not whine like that, but basically she will signal you that it's time to stop and finish. I guarantee you that this will happen at the 15 minute mark. Maybe even the 14 minute mark. Every little minute matters. When you're a customer, you should be getting your money's worth. These dumb girls don't understand that. Which is why I probably won't go to HK again or bar girls in general.
I remember one girl from Adelitas I saw. She spent like 3 minutes putting the condom on me. Then I touched the condom and she made me take it off and put on a new one. Like what the fuck? This dumb ***** is cheating me out of my time. I decide to just go with it. What the fuck am I suppose to say, no? I'm the fucking customer. So I put on another condom, another 3-4 minutes cause she's fucking taking her time and shit, being a little *****. She knows what she's doing, she knows she's shaving off so much time by being a ***** and taking forever. I'm like 7 minutes into this fucking session and I'm still not fucking the girl yet. What. The. Fuck. Now I only have like 8 minutes to fuck her. LOL. Seriously fuck. These. Girls. LOL. Most of them are awful. So god awful. No customer service whatsoever. No regard for the customer, at all. It's fucking terrible and awful. My advice is to find an all time favorite that actually gives a shit about what she does, and cling on to her like a mad man. The last thing you want is to go around "experimenting" with random dumb girls whose only intention is to suck you dry of money and provide you next to nothing. Believe me, HK and bars are full of these girls, almost every one.
As for someone saying: be lucky you can fuck these girls for $60-80. I agree with that, it's great. Which is why I recommend HK and the zona in general for first time visitors. After the first time though, it's pointless. The novelty wears off. After you fuck your first round of girls, you start to recognize this shit show for what it is. Then your experiences won't be the same anymore. Then you realize you're better off putting in a little more work and finding working girls that actually care about their customers. Whether that's through the street, escorts, or through other means.
You realize that the easy bar fuck with an HK girl is so fucking lame and bullshit in terms of service, and that you would rather save your money and put it to more effective uses. Probably the main thing you should take away from all of this.I think this should be noted as an example of one's personal experience and generalization. My experiences have been totally different. I've had ONE experience where the chica says it is time. But, it does not make your report an less valid. However, I will say that to give such a grim picture of "most of them are awful" is unwarranted. Perhaps they saw you as an easy score or whatever, but those were the chicas that gravitated to you that night. I would be more interested in how to avoid those chicas than generalizing most of them. I've had one chica stayed TLN because she was really into me (no further donations), and I've had a couple of clock watchers. Sorry you didn't have a good time. Hope the next time will be better.
All of these complaints about 30 minutes actually being -5 minutes is this true if you book for an hour? Do they short you on time for an hour?
Dcrist0527
08-21-19, 17:19
It's been a while since I've posted and there are various reasons for that. We all look for different things, different types, and we certainly all have different expectations.
When I first started visiting TIjuana years ago, I was a big fan of the escort scene. I slowly became more fond of the bar game for several reasons. Nearly all of my experiences have been positive and enjoyable. I can count on one hand my bad experiences.
I read the discussions regarding the cost, the time spend, and the attitude. First, let me say, I'm an ugly gringo. LOL I'm overweight. I am clean but my overall appearance does me no favors. But with one single exception, I've never had a time issue. Just the opposite. If I finish before 30 minutes, which unfortunately for me is very rare, the girl just wants to hang out. I read about how girls rush downstairs to pull in the next guy. My experience is that the girls enjoy the break. They certainly weren't in a rush to get back down there. Seriously, these girls are not just machines. Yes, I'm certain there are some that pull 5+ arribas a night. But with a VERY minimum amount of screening, you'll weed them out.
As for the bar policies, calling them a clip joint is amusing. Of course there are bad meseros waiting to rip you off. But in general, virtually all bars and most businesses want your money. That is hardly unique to HK, Tijuana or Mexico.
My best advice to newbies:
Treat these girls as women, not putas. That does not mean overspending. But treat them with respect. If you stumble on the bad apples, move on. They choose this life, but it is tough. But if you treat them as a puta, don't expect a good experience.
Budget. There are more times than I want to count where I overspent. Not on the girl, but on the night, drinks, etc. But do I regret those instances? Nope. I've had more than one night of my life there over the last year. Similarly, as has been said recently, if you are ready to argue with a girl over $5, that's not going to lend itself to GFE. Negotiating in Mexico is a norm, more so than in the US. But there is a fine line between negotiating and just killing the mood. Right or wrong, if you are a gringo, the chicas will assume you are swimming in money. Know your price. Stick to your guns and if she doesn't like your price, there is no shortage of options.
I've made a lot of friends over the last year. I somewhat regularly see BGs that I would rate as at least an 8 outside the bars. Some of those are platonic relationships, some not. For those that aren't, I'm not paying a dime beyond a dinner or a couple drinks at a civie bar. Again, I'll remind you, I'm no prize physically. And I do not intend this as a bragadocious post. I say this in the hopes that newbies and veterans alike can find some helpful tips, primarily, treat the girl with respect and you will be rewarded. Realize that any of the girls will take you upstairs and take your money. Your challenge, and it's not difficult, is to find the one that actually won't mind taking you up there.
A few things: $80 for 15 minutes is the gold standard at Hong Kong, fact. I showed up as a fresh gringo, completely new to the scene. Not a push over at all, limited Spanish. Went in with an open mind. My experience? $80 for 15 minutes. That's across the board. And no it's not because I finished too fast. 15 minutes is literally the standard time. I've been with over a dozen HK and bar girls now, this is what I've noticed.
They think they're smart, but they're not. You don't have to be a genius to realize you are being shorted on your time. You can tell. Once you start fucking her to when you finish up, it will be at the most 15 minutes of time, I guarantee you that. Just try it yourself. Get a HK girl and track the time of the session. Track the minute you actually start fucking her. And then just keep banging her and wait until she starts moaning and complaining "babyyy your time is up! You got to cum soon baby! She may not whine like that, but basically she will signal you that it's time to stop and finish. I guarantee you that this will happen at the 15 minute mark. Maybe even the 14 minute mark. Every little minute matters. When you're a customer, you should be getting your money's worth. These dumb girls don't understand that. Which is why I probably won't go to HK again or bar girls in general.
I remember one girl from Adelitas I saw. She spent like 3 minutes putting the condom on me. Then I touched the condom and she made me take it off and put on a new one. Like what the fuck? This dumb ***** is cheating me out of my time. I decide to just go with it. What the fuck am I suppose to say, no? I'm the fucking customer. So I put on another condom, another 3-4 minutes cause she's fucking taking her time and shit, being a little *****. She knows what she's doing, she knows she's shaving off so much time by being a ***** and taking forever. I'm like 7 minutes into this fucking session and I'm still not fucking the girl yet. What. The. Fuck. Now I only have like 8 minutes to fuck her. LOL. Seriously fuck. These. Girls. LOL. Most of them are awful. So god awful. No customer service whatsoever. No regard for the customer, at all. It's fucking terrible and awful. My advice is to find an all time favorite that actually gives a shit about what she does, and cling on to her like a mad man. The last thing you want is to go around "experimenting" with random dumb girls whose only intention is to suck you dry of money and provide you next to nothing. Believe me, HK and bars are full of these girls, almost every one.
As for someone saying: be lucky you can fuck these girls for $60-80. I agree with that, it's great. Which is why I recommend HK and the zona in general for first time visitors. After the first time though, it's pointless. The novelty wears off. After you fuck your first round of girls, you start to recognize this shit show for what it is. Then your experiences won't be the same anymore. Then you realize you're better off putting in a little more work and finding working girls that actually care about their customers. Whether that's through the street, escorts, or through other means.
You realize that the easy bar fuck with an HK girl is so fucking lame and bullshit in terms of service, and that you would rather save your money and put it to more effective uses. Probably the main thing you should take away from all of this.True. So True.
I have never done a BG in ANY club or will I for these reasons. NOBODY gives a crap if you have a good time or not OR if you come back.
Doing your own deals out on the street or with escorts and freelancers is where its at. F HK and everything about those pricks.
Thanks for all the quick responses. You guys are great.
Maybe my first post was a little clunky. My main point is that I am not a big fan of just handing over money and then getting FS or a BBBJ. It's nothing moral or anything like that. I just like the thrill of the hunt and the surprise. Not knowing exactly what is going to happen. Maybe that makes me weird or something. I like foreplay and teasing. My favorite thing to do here in the states is go to a strip club and hope that maybe something extra could happen during a lap dance. I've received FS and BBBJ a several times and a HJ lots of times. But most of the time I don't. But it feels like a won the lottery when she asks if I want anything extra (for a fee of course). It's like randomly walking into an Asian massage parlor. Not knowing if they offer extras. And then after the massage she asks, "is there anything else you want?" It's like hitting a home run.
So I've always heard Tijuana was famous for its strip clubs, so I thought it would be the capital of lap dances with high mileage. That was probably stupid of me to assume in a city that has legal prostitution. So it is not about the BBBJ itself, but the chase and surprise of it all. So I got excited when I heard you can buy a lady drinks and make out and fondle all day and then move to lap dances and what I assumed could be likely high mileage. Maybe Tijuana isn't the city for me. I'm not sure. But If anybody knows of a strip club that doesn't have a hotel attached and gets most of their money from lap dances, I would be most appreciative. Or is this possible at all in the Hong Kong lap dance areas? Thanks in advance for any advice.I'm like you, for two years I searched for a good lap dance place in Tijuana because the sex is expensive, since I go every week, and I had a girlfriend at the time. Could not find a good lap dance place. Had one good girl who would stick tits in my face in gold palace. But the set up is bad everyone watches. Playboy has. Quiet upstairs for two girl drinks but they may or may not dance. Chicago has private room for like 20 for maybe six minutes. The dance may or may not be as good as a lap dance in the states. Hong Kong, ten bucks with VIP card, one per day otherwise 20. If you ask the girl for a lap dance it's probably going to be terrible compared to USA lap dance. If it's her idea she may not want sex that day and it will possible be as good as USA lap dance. Tropical has room you get beers and girl for like 25 minutes for like 50. But she may be a no touch or barely touch dud. A lot girls will dance with you at all clubs for the drink. Problem is if you start kissing her or licking her breasts you will hear about it from bar tenders, waiters, and other girls, even days later. I always do. A lot girls see a girl into a guy, and hate it, cause they are working for money. Some girls literally enjoy fooling around with men. But basically, to do any lap dance, the girl needs to be kissing you and sticking her nipples in your face during the first drink. Otherwise either the dance will be terrible or the sex likely terrible.
KC Questor
08-21-19, 23:27
All of these complaints about 30 minutes actually being -5 minutes is this true if you book for an hour? Do they short you on time for an hour?It is not usual to do hour sessions with bar girls. But if you do, I'd assume that you would get your full time since you have explicitly negotiated for an hour. If you don't have your own room, you'll need to pay extra at the desk for an hour.
And I'll say again, it is not usual for girls to short you on time even if you do a 30 minute session.
Only certain street girls standing in the alley near HK will visit the HK hotel private room via the alley. Alley 20 min rate is $6. Knock at 12 minutes. Expect to pay more from WG visiting HK hotel with greatly diminished service.
HK is not hurting for business.
True. So True.
I have never done a BG in ANY club or will I for these reasons. NOBODY gives a crap if you have a good time or not OR if you come back.
Doing your own deals out on the street or with escorts and freelancers is where its at. F HK and everything about those pricks.
It is not usual to do hour sessions with bar girls. But if you do, I'd assume that you would get your full time since you have explicitly negotiated for an hour. If you don't have your own room, you'll need to pay extra at the desk for an hour.
And I'll say again, it is not usual for girls to short you on time even if you do a 30 minute session.Same here never been shorted on time worst case maybe a few minutes shy of 30.
It is not usual to do hour sessions with bar girls. But if you do, I'd assume that you would get your full time since you have explicitly negotiated for an hour. If you don't have your own room, you'll need to pay extra at the desk for an hour.
And I'll say again, it is not usual for girls to short you on time even if you do a 30 minute session.Same here never been shorted on time worst case maybe a few minutes shy of 30.
As far as bar girls not giving the full 30 minutes, I agree completely. I've been with about ten, a few multiple times. Only one wasn't trying to get me to finish after ten minutes. Another words, two minute blow job, two minutes missionary, two minutes doggie, a few minutes cowgirl and they start asking if I finished and saying most guys finish quicker. I can last due to Viagra. Some I repeated with anyway due to BBBJ and kissing. But even that wasn't consistent with same person. One even came to my hotel after work, and was rushing me to finish in six minutes. The prior visits she was wonderful in Chicago's hotel. So you can't even rely on girls who prove to be good once. I suppose the guys under 35 and are "hot" probably don't get rushed as much. The best girls, are practically banging you during the drinks in the bar. They will do BBBJ without asking and fool around in the shower without asking. The problem is, finding them. Maybe once in five visits I can find that.
What's the VIP discount amount to off room rate? What does VIP card cost?
OrganicAlo
08-22-19, 20:32
What's the VIP discount amount to off room rate? What does VIP card cost?50 usd.
80% off Monday / Tuesday nights. 20% off rest of the week.
KC Questor
08-22-19, 22:23
What's the VIP discount amount to off room rate? What does VIP card cost?VIP card costs $50 and is good for three months. Room discount is 20% most nights and 80% Monday and Tuesday. With the 80% discount a regular room is $12 and the Master Suite is $22. It's even good on the penthouse, so you and a buddy could get the Sky Pool double suite for like $200 (instead of $1000). See the rooms here: https://hotelcascadas.com/rooms-and-suites.
Captain Solo
08-22-19, 22:29
There are quite a few beautiful girls in HK who act nice, sweet, sexy. A good one is Kity AKA Cici with her blonde then pink Anime hair.
She told me Cici from Micoacan, but labeled her contact as Kitty, whatever. She was a very nice, sexy, horny nymph, tall with curly blonde hair, pretty face, light skin, beautiful body, long legs, natural be boobs, no tats, perfect for my taste. She looked dreamy like Marilyn Monroe, with the same beauty mark on her left chin, but skinnier, a very nice, pretty, beautiful girl, smiling dreamily with her pretty eyes and sexy mouth, giggling pleasantly like a little girl, speaks some English and aims to please.
She's tall, about 5'7 without heels. Her body is nice, tight with soft skin, about perfect without tattoos or baby damages, Seeing her tall, beautiful body on the sheet with a sexy grin on her face, I could not wait to get started, hurriedly sucking on her lips while fingering her coochie. She responded with her kiss, guiding my fingers to the right spot on her clit, whimpering in pleasure. She stopped, asked me to "shower" my hands before we continued. Got back to bed, sucking on her tits while fingering her clit furiously. The harder I sucked, the louder she was moaning. I got down to her crotch, clean shaven with some stubbles. She smelled nice, clean, sexy.
We had a long session in various positions. She was doing a CG, leaning down, sucking on my mouth and my tongue. I got on top of her, driving hard into her crotch, squeezing her body tight, sucking her mouth hard. She responded with passion, sometimes hanging tight onto my waist, bucking her hips with lots of aural feedback This hot girl just knows how to deliver love and sex in the most natural and loving ways, delicious to have in bed.
After the first pop, she kissed me lovingly on my mouth, face and chest. She acted like a horny GF grateful for a hot session. She gave me a CBJ for the second round, but I was exhausted and could not raise an erection. We called it quit after over an hour in bed. She took a shower of her lower body and urged me to do the same. She had agreed on my standard offer, but I gave her a big propina for being a very nice, sweet, sexy, loving girl. She said she's 25 and looked it, denied having a novio. We walked back to Hong Kong with arms holding each other tight like a young couple deeply in love.
She did a stripping routine on Pista Sul, but did not get the green showers like others. The crowd definitely preferred heavier and curvier strippers with rains of 20 to 30 bills each from the balcony. But who knows? Some of those rains may be prearranged to boost the strippers' ego hehe. She was dancing on the bar, then sitting on the stool. I could not resist her sweet, pretty face, again squeezed a propina into her bras, kissing her lips. My wingman hit on her, but she wanted a higher figure.
She said she would be working next week, so I might get her again in the VIP Stripper show on Wednesday May 22. This girl gave very hot and satisfying sex in bed, satisfied all my lusty needs, worth the drive South.
Long Don Silva
08-23-19, 03:45
Some of you all simply need to do a better job screening your girls before you decide to take arriba. It's really easy. Just pay close attention to how she looks at you, her body language, and how does she make physical contact with you. I'm not under 35. Close though, I'm 38. I take good care of myself though. If you're not a little bit attractive to the girls, you just have to accept they're going to have a hard time playing the part for you. And as was mentioned, treat them like a regular lady.
Double bed room $15.
VIP card costs $50 and is good for three months. Room discount is 20% most nights and 80% Monday and Tuesday. With the 80% discount a regular room is $12 and the Master Suite is $22. It's even good on the penthouse, so you and a buddy could get the Sky Pool double suite for like $200 (instead of $1000). See the rooms here: https://hotelcascadas.com/rooms-and-suites.
Some girls use the toilet. Minutes lost. Only the knock time is the official time, 10 minutes prior? New negotiation, time loss. Prepaid request? Shower request. Fake contact number.
Lot to consider at HK Organization.
As far as bar girls not giving the full 30 minutes, I agree completely. I've been with about ten, a few multiple times. Only one wasn't trying to get me to finish after ten minutes. Another words, two minute blow job, two minutes missionary, two minutes doggie, a few minutes cowgirl and they start asking if I finished and saying most guys finish quicker. I can last due to Viagra. Some I repeated with anyway due to BBBJ and kissing. But even that wasn't consistent with same person. One even came to my hotel after work, and was rushing me to finish in six minutes. The prior visits she was wonderful in Chicago's hotel. So you can't even rely on girls who prove to be good once. I suppose the guys under 35 and are "hot" probably don't get rushed as much. The best girls, are practically banging you during the drinks in the bar. They will do BBBJ without asking and fool around in the shower without asking. The problem is, finding them. Maybe once in five visits I can find that.
Thanks for all the quick responses. You guys are great.
Maybe my first post was a little clunky. My main point is that I am not a big fan of just handing over money and then getting FS or a BBBJ. It's nothing moral or anything like that. I just like the thrill of the hunt and the surprise. Not knowing exactly what is going to happen. Maybe that makes me weird or something. I like foreplay and teasing. My favorite thing to do here in the states is go to a strip club and hope that maybe something extra could happen during a lap dance. I've received FS and BBBJ a several times and a HJ lots of times. But most of the time I don't. But it feels like a won the lottery when she asks if I want anything extra (for a fee of course). It's like randomly walking into an Asian massage parlor. Not knowing if they offer extras. And then after the massage she asks, "is there anything else you want?" It's like hitting a home run.
So I've always heard Tijuana was famous for its strip clubs, so I thought it would be the capital of lap dances with high mileage. That was probably stupid of me to assume in a city that has legal prostitution. So it is not about the BBBJ itself, but the chase and surprise of it all. So I got excited when I heard you can buy a lady drinks and make out and fondle all day and then move to lap dances and what I assumed could be likely high mileage. Maybe Tijuana isn't the city for me. I'm not sure. But If anybody knows of a strip club that doesn't have a hotel attached and gets most of their money from lap dances, I would be most appreciative. Or is this possible at all in the Hong Kong lap dance areas? Thanks in advance for any advice.You might want to hit up strip clubs on revolucion for this type of experience. These places don't have hotels attached to them. They either have private booths or small rooms with a nice big couch. I used to frequent these places a lot years ago but now only stick to mainly HK and Adelitas. Revolucion is only a very short cab ride away from the zona. You could even walk there from the zona but I wouldn't recommend doing that if you're a newbie.
Hawaiian Ice
08-23-19, 17:04
You might want to hit up strip clubs on revolucion for this type of experience. These places don't have hotels attached to them. They either have private booths or small rooms with a nice big couch. I used to frequent these places a lot years ago but now only stick to mainly HK and Adelitas. Revolucion is only a very short cab ride away from the zona. You could even walk there from the zona but I wouldn't recommend doing that if you're a newbie.Thanks man. Is there a particular one anyone can recommend?
Captain Solo
08-23-19, 18:08
Thursday night had a big seafood dinner at Mariscos El Choforo near the cathedral, a 55-peso small shrimp coctele, the 65-peso combo special with a quesadilla, shrimp, octopus and cheese wrapped in a thin, chewy crepe with a cup of consomme and a soda. The food was delicious, really filled me up, felt good but sexually de-energized by the packed stomach. Washed down with a couple beers in HK and walked the bar block a couple times to digest the food. Still did not feel so hot sexually so had a session with a familiar street girl to check out the sex drive. She managed to raise a half-way decent erection, but the session was weak and lame without much energy and passion.
Hang out in HK waiting for the wingmen. HK had lots of the hottest girls working Thursday night. Selection was much better than Tuesday. Nearing time to go home, went in HK to make the last round, found Kitty AKA Cici sitting at bar Kowloon in her pink bikini with her new frizzy pink hair. She's a girly girl, what can I say hehe? She flashed a smile. I stopped to give her propinas into her pink bra. Her boobs were bouncy with tiny tits. I got closer to inspect her boobs, she started kissing my mouth. She was smiling and giggling, speaking softly with her squeaky voice like a little girl. Her hand started groping my dick. Soon our mouths were engaging in hot DFKs and our hands were all over doing liberal groping. A mesero butted in proposing a ficha but I just shooed him away. I thought I completely ran out of ammo for the night but her pretty charms and her sexy groping, stroking produced a bulge in my pants which I could not ignore. Made my standard offer to her which she nodded, smiling happily. We headed upstairs to Cascada, holding each other like lovers, kissing and groping each other in the elevator hehe.
She took a good shower of her lower body before the session. I helped dry her back and her butt to quickly get her in bed. My dick was already engorged. I laid her out in bed. She looked good, smelled good, felt good. We were DFKing. I kissed her all over her body, sucking on her tits while rubbing on her clit and her coochie. She was squirming, gasping, guiding my fingers to the rights spots. Soon her other hand was stroking my dick. I got turned on red hot, had a strong hard on with this sexy girl, could not delay penetrating her.
She gave me a complete GFE treatment. Her coochie was wet. I spent a lot of time and effort trying to penetrate, but could only get the head in. Finally she put some lube on my dick and I was able to fully penetrate her. We had a hot time. I was pretty exhausted at the end, laying back in bed, panting. We cuddled each other a while. She could speak passable English, said from Michoacan, lives in Tijuana, has no novios or ninos, works 2 PM to midnight Thurs, Sat and Sunday. She's not shy and loves to pose nude. I took a few pics before and after the session. She was in no rush, took another long shower after.
KC Questor
08-24-19, 02:44
So I've always heard Tijuana was famous for its strip clubs, so I thought it would be the capital of lap dances with high mileage. That was probably stupid of me to assume in a city that has legal prostitution. So it is not about the BBBJ itself, but the chase and surprise of it all. So I got excited when I heard you can buy a lady drinks and make out and fondle all day and then move to lap dances and what I assumed could be likely high mileage. Maybe Tijuana isn't the city for me. I'm not sure. But If anybody knows of a strip club that doesn't have a hotel attached and gets most of their money from lap dances, I would be most appreciative. Or is this possible at all in the Hong Kong lap dance areas? Thanks in advance for any advice.You can most certainly do all of the above in Hong Kong (or Adelitas or Chicago). You buy the girl a $10 drink and she will sit and fondle and tease and dance for you for a good bit longer than the one song you get in an American club. Yes, she is trying to persuade you to go upstairs, but you don't have to. You buy her three drinks (the cost of one lap dance in some clubs in the US) and you'll have 30-45 minutes with her in the club. That includes your hands on her and her hands on you -- although obviously YMMV, some girls are flirtier than others. If it is busy and there are lots of guys, they'll be less interested in sitting with you when they could be finding a guy to go upstairs, but at a slower time they will be glad to make money sitting with you. You can also take a girl for a more traditional "lap dance" in the club, and she may go so far as to give a HJ or BJ or even FS, depending on the club and the girl. HK lap dances are like $20 per song, but you can get one song for half-price with coupons or VIP card.
So, yeah, the "hunt" for a permissive girl is not the same as at a US strip club. You know for sure you can get a BJ from any of them. But you can still have a great time interviewing a bunch to find the one you want to go up with. It's my favorite part of the whole thing. If I just wanted to get laid, the street girls are way cheaper and the escorts are about the same price for a lot better time. But nothing compares to the time spent having a hot girl grinding and flirting with you to get you to fuck her.
SleazySteve
08-24-19, 08:52
Crossed by foot in San Ysidro this past Wednesday. Parked across from Jack in Box for $24 for 24 hours. When crossing by foot into Mexico in the past there was no passport or bag scan so having to go through this was new for me. Before we just had to play the red light / green light game.
Myself and 3 buddies had reserved rooms at Cascadas and we had all printed out the coupon for a free room from LVstripmag's Twitter and we were hoping we could use them. At the Cascadas front desk the guys behind the counter didn't initially want to accept the coupons but when I pointed out that it was still on the above mentioned twitter account, they checked with somebody in the back and finally said OK. 4 free rooms! 2 of us had rooms on the 8th floor the other 2 were on the 6th floor. The 8th floor rooms were newly renovated and much nicer than the 6th floor rooms. Nicer floor, bed, shower, safe, tv, everything. Same size just nicer.
We had an amazing dinner at Cabanna. Almost all seafood. $8 cab ride there. It was in a super modern plaza and was a very nice place. The 4 of us drank heavy and ordered what felt like half the menu until we were stuffed. $148 and that included tip. Highly recommend.
Girls were $80 and there was a great selection for a Wednesday night along with zero competition. I will say that I really came to appreciate buying a girl a chica drink on this trip. It buys you a solid 10 minutes (on a wed) to rub all over and interview the girl. For $10 it's a great value. Construction everywhere in the hotel and water was shut off in the rooms from 6 am-10 am. The new restaurant on property, Azul, was a fantastic place to have breakfast. Sitting on the balcony having coffee overlooking the street, watching the girls, seeing the dealer do his thing seamlessly, and watching a fight break out between 2 chicks right in the street. Its amazing people watching and my breakfast was very cheap. Like $8 for the Works, plus coffee and a Heineken.
Hong Kong offered me a free ride to the border which was great in a nice town car. Crossing over at San Ysidro took all of 3 minutes with Sentri, no wait. Felt amazing walking past like 400 people, my first time using Sentri. I hope it's not another 5 years before I get to go again, it was amazing.
Thanks man. Is there a particular one anyone can recommend?Back in those days Peanuts and Beer & Amnesia were pretty popular. Pussycats was also good but they eventually shut down. Madonnas was good too although I have no clue if they're still around. I was mostly a Peanuts & Pussycats guy myself.
Good detail report, impressed Ped West crossing SENTRI 3 minutes. Past 400. Line out of the tunnel winding out?
CBP WBT prediction. No Delay?
Crossed by foot in San Ysidro this past Wednesday. Parked across from Jack in Box for $24 for 24 hours. ...
Hong Kong offered me a free ride to the border which was great in a nice town car. Crossing over at San Ysidro took all of 3 minutes with Sentri, no wait. Felt amazing walking past like 400 people, my first time using Sentri. I hope it's not another 5 years before I get to go again, it was amazing.
Drove down from LA recently on a Wed night. Had to be in SD Thurs afternoon so planned to monger only Wed night. Went to Hong Kong and Chicago and girls were decent but nothing really stood out to me. Both were only moderately crowded. Not a bad night overall, just nothing made me want to session. So went back to hotel (HI Express) around 11:30 pm. Still horny, it seems most of the escort agencies are closed, so found someone on Mileroticos. Turns out I was commuicating with an agency and I told them to send their best girl. About 30 minutes later a 6/10 (maybe 5/10) arrived. In the room, she was a 2/10. Said no to basically everything. Just sex in one position. The loss was $100. Never again. If you don't have someone you can complain to afterwards (this "agency" didn't have a name or anything), don't do it. Anyway, I've learned it's often better to just cut your losses and chalk it up to a learning experience then make a big fuss and have something bad happen like having the hotel get involved to deal with an angry hooker.
Thurs morning I decided to see what HK and Chicago were like in the morning. I arrived around 11:00 am. To my surprise, HK had many hot girls. Better than the night before. There were about 10 mongers in HK. I went to Chicago and there were no girls, but found out 30 were having a meeting that ended at noon (I think). There was one super hot girl working the pole while a trainer (who was pushing her to aerobics). I believe they were just training there. I was so close to approaching, but after watching for 20 mintues without any eye contact, it was clear they were just doing some sort of a workout. I still regret not approaching because even regular girls might take $100. The girls eventually got out of their meeting and I was the only monger for about 30 girls. None were that great, so went back to HK and grabbed a 9/10. Had a great session for $80+room.
So. I kindof want a repeat of that morning while betting on some NFL. My plan is to leave LA at 5:00 am on Sunday morning, get to HK area by 9:00 am, place some bets, watch NFL at HK / Chicago, drink, have a session, etc. Then around 9:00 pm, get a room for 4 hours to sleep and head back to LA at 1:00 am. I tried this last year without the sleep and it was a brutal drive back. Where is the best place to stay Sunday night near HK for just 4 hours? Or maybe it's best to reserve a room for Sunday night and just leave really early. Thanks, kdog.
Drove down from LA recently on a Wed night. Had to be in SD Thurs afternoon so planned to monger only Wed night. Went to Hong Kong and Chicago and girls were decent but nothing really stood out to me. Both were only moderately crowded. Not a bad night overall, just nothing made me want to session. So went back to hotel (HI Express) around 11:30 pm. Still horny, it seems most of the escort agencies are closed, so found someone on Mileroticos. Turns out I was commuicating with an agency and I told them to send their best girl. About 30 minutes later a 6/10 (maybe 5/10) arrived. In the room, she was a 2/10. Said no to basically everything. Just sex in one position. The loss was $100. Never again. If you don't have someone you can complain to afterwards (this "agency" didn't have a name or anything), don't do it. Anyway, I've learned it's often better to just cut your losses and chalk it up to a learning experience then make a big fuss and have something bad happen like having the hotel get involved to deal with an angry hooker.
Thurs morning I decided to see what HK and Chicago were like in the morning. I arrived around 11:00 am. To my surprise, HK had many hot girls. Better than the night before. There were about 10 mongers in HK. I went to Chicago and there were no girls, but found out 30 were having a meeting that ended at noon (I think). There was one super hot girl working the pole while a trainer (who was pushing her to aerobics). I believe they were just training there. I was so close to approaching, but after watching for 20 mintues without any eye contact, it was clear they were just doing some sort of a workout. I still regret not approaching because even regular girls might take $100. The girls eventually got out of their meeting and I was the only monger for about 30 girls. None were that great, so went back to HK and grabbed a 9/10. Had a great session for $80+room.Any hotel will do. You spent 100 on a outcall and 80 on Hong Kong when it wasn't busy. Why pinch pennies now over a hotel? I think tropical bar hotel does six hours. It's nice like Hong Kong hotel same ownership. If you guys keep paying 80 for sex the price will go up. I pay 60 to 70. If the girls make a lot money fSt they go home to Cancun sooner.
ScatManDoo
08-26-19, 06:59
Drove down from LA recently on a Wed night. Had to be in SD Thurs afternoon so planned to monger only Wed night. Went to Hong Kong and Chicago and girls were decent but nothing really stood out to me. Both were only moderately crowded. Not a bad night overall, just nothing made me want to session. So went back to hotel (HI Express) around 11:30 pm. Still horny, it seems most of the escort agencies are closed, so found someone on Mileroticos. Turns out I was commuicating with an agency and I told them to send their best girl. About 30 minutes later a 6/10 (maybe 5/10) arrived. In the room, she was a 2/10. Said no to basically everything. Just sex in one position. The loss was $100. Never again. If you don't have someone you can complain to afterwards (this "agency" didn't have a name or anything), don't do it. Anyway, I've learned it's often better to just cut your losses and chalk it up to a learning experience then make a big fuss and have something bad happen like having the hotel get involved to deal with an angry hooker..Hotel Cascades is above Hong Kong Bar. Here is their website: https://hotelcascadas.com/.
Cascades rents overnight single rooms on Sunday nights for $60. (If you buy the $50 HK VIP card, there will be a room rental discount of 20% or $12).
The HK VIP card is good for 3 months if you plan one or more visits to Tijuana in the near future. Here is their website: https://hktijuana.com/vip-services.php.
For a cheaper overnight room you could exit Hong Kong Bar though the south (alley) exit, look across the alley to the left and spot the Eduardo Hotel. It has been several years since I rented an overnight room at the Eduardo, but I think the cost is probably around 300 pesos (a $16 equivalent). Other cheap hotels in La Zona rent overnight rooms for similar costs if you just need a place to crash for a few hours before heading home. Cascades will let you check into an overnight room as early as 3 PM and you can check out at any time. Other La Zona hotels usually have check-ins around noon or 1 PM and you typically can check out any time you like.
KC Questor
08-27-19, 03:15
I second the Cascadas Hotel. If you expect to be in Tijuana more than 4 nights over the next three months, the VIP card will pay for itself (or 2 nights if they are Monday-Tuesday). With the VIP card, a room on Sunday will be $38, which is the cost of two short-time room rentals. So the room basically it pays for itself if you go up twice. The Cascadas rooms are nicer than any other rooms in the Zona, but there are dozens of options if you just want a cheap place to crash for a few hours.
EagleRoamer
08-27-19, 19:31
I second the Cascadas Hotel. If you expect to be in Tijuana more than 4 nights over the next three months, the VIP card will pay for itself (or 2 nights if they are Monday-Tuesday). With the VIP card, a room on Sunday will be $38, which is the cost of two short-time room rentals. So the room basically it pays for itself if you go up twice. The Cascadas rooms are nicer than any other rooms in the Zona, but there are dozens of options if you just want a cheap place to crash for a few hours.Can I book two rooms (one for my friend and one for myself) with the same VIP card and receive the discount on both rooms? Thanks.
PiratesAreUs
08-28-19, 01:12
Any free tonight? I'm in SD but don't want to go for the first time by myself LOL.
Around 7:20, I was in my room in Cascadas and heard someone knocking on the door. Then the door was unlocked and two guys wearing civilian clothes and wearing ski masks entered the room. One guy was covering the room with a AR15 rifle. The other guy asked me if anyone else was in the room. When I said no, he went and searched the bathroom. He then asked me what I had in my bag, and I told him movie DVDs, candy and fresh clothes and I put them on the mattress where they could see them. They then left.
I then left the room about 10 minutes later and saw two more guys in civilian clothes wearing ski masks and carrying pistols walking on the 5th floor.
When I got to HK, there was an unmarked police car out front with 3 more police in civilian clothes. I asked the HK security. Que tipo de policia son? To try to find out what type of police they were but he just said "Policia". In HK, two more policia in ski masks were walking through the club. Any guesses as to what they were doing and what agency they worked for?
Seen a dog unit and 10 plus commandos cut thru HK. Routine for HK staff.
Around 7:20, I was in my room in Cascadas and heard someone knocking on the door. Then the door was unlocked and two guys wearing civilian clothes and wearing ski masks entered the room. One guy was covering the room with a AR15 rifle. The other guy asked me if anyone else was in the room. When I said no, he went and searched the bathroom. He then asked me what I had in my bag, and I told him movie DVDs, candy and fresh clothes and I put them on the mattress where they could see them. They then left.
I then left the room about 10 minutes later and saw two more guys in civilian clothes wearing ski masks and carrying pistols walking on the 5th floor.
When I got to HK, there was an unmarked police car out front with 3 more police in civilian clothes. I asked the HK security. Que tipo de policia son? To try to find out what type of police they were but he just said "Policia". In HK, two more policia in ski masks were walking through the club. Any guesses as to what they were doing and what agency they worked for?
BigGates1996
08-28-19, 15:13
Around 7:20, I was in my room in Cascadas and heard someone knocking on the door. Then the door was unlocked and two guys wearing civilian clothes and wearing ski masks entered the room. One guy was covering the room with a AR15 rifle. The other guy asked me if anyone else was in the room. When I said no, he went and searched the bathroom. He then asked me what I had in my bag, and I told him movie DVDs, candy and fresh clothes and I put them on the mattress where they could see them. They then left.
I then left the room about 10 minutes later and saw two more guys in civilian clothes wearing ski masks and carrying pistols walking on the 5th floor.
When I got to HK, there was an unmarked police car out front with 3 more police in civilian clothes. I asked the HK security. Que tipo de policia son? To try to find out what type of police they were but he just said "Policia". In HK, two more policia in ski masks were walking through the club. Any guesses as to what they were doing and what agency they worked for?They were looking for Putas who demand payment before giving up the pussy.
ScatManDoo
08-28-19, 15:14
Around 7:20, I was in my room in Cascadas and heard someone knocking on the door. Then the door was unlocked and two guys wearing civilian clothes and wearing ski masks entered the room. One guy was covering the room with a AR15 rifle. The other guy asked me if anyone else was in the room. When I said no, he went and searched the bathroom. He then asked me what I had in my bag, and I told him movie DVDs, candy and fresh clothes and I put them on the mattress where they could see them. They then left.If that had happened to me in a room at Cascades, I probably would have shit my pants.
Around 7:20, I was in my room in Cascadas and heard someone knocking on the door. Then the door was unlocked and two guys wearing civilian clothes and wearing ski masks entered the room. One guy was covering the room with a AR15 rifle. The other guy asked me if anyone else was in the room. When I said no, he went and searched the bathroom. He then asked me what I had in my bag, and I told him movie DVDs, candy and fresh clothes and I put them on the mattress where they could see them. They then left.
I then left the room about 10 minutes later and saw two more guys in civilian clothes wearing ski masks and carrying pistols walking on the 5th floor.
When I got to HK, there was an unmarked police car out front with 3 more police in civilian clothes. I asked the HK security. Que tipo de policia son? To try to find out what type of police they were but he just said "Policia". In HK, two more policia in ski masks were walking through the club. Any guesses as to what they were doing and what agency they worked for?Civilian = undercover. Probably Mexican Federales or FBI. Interesting that they weren't back up by more LEO. Probably chasing wanted man but lower threat perp who couldn't resist HK pussy even if doing so outed him. Probably worked off of a tip.
Dcrist0527
08-28-19, 20:49
If that had happened to me in a room at Cascades, I probably would have shit my pants.Hahaha. No shit! Going room to room seems unusual. Just a guess that they were looking for someone specific. I know that the policia will go through HK irregularly looking for drugs. But that's the first I heard of them entering a room like that. I would probably have been in the next taxi north. LOL.
KC Questor
08-28-19, 23:50
Can I book two rooms (one for my friend and one for myself) with the same VIP card and receive the discount on both rooms? Thanks.I doubt it, but you might be able to sneak in by giving him your card and checking in at separate times. They do have the two-bedroom Penthouse Suite (https://hotelcascadas.com/rooms/penthouse-suite-room-2). On a Monday night that $540 room becomes $108. So for the two of you in a Penthouse Suite, that's pretty good.
Around 7:20, I was in my room in Cascadas and heard someone knocking on the door. Then the door was unlocked and two guys wearing civilian clothes and wearing ski masks entered the room. One guy was covering the room with a AR15 rifle. The other guy asked me if anyone else was in the room. When I said no, he went and searched the bathroom. He then asked me what I had in my bag, and I told him movie DVDs, candy and fresh clothes and I put them on the mattress where they could see them. They then left.
I then left the room about 10 minutes later and saw two more guys in civilian clothes wearing ski masks and carrying pistols walking on the 5th floor.
When I got to HK, there was an unmarked police car out front with 3 more police in civilian clothes. I asked the HK security. Que tipo de policia son? To try to find out what type of police they were but he just said "Policia". In HK, two more policia in ski masks were walking through the club. Any guesses as to what they were doing and what agency they worked for?Can confirm. It was a bad, bad, scene, having them rush bedrooms. Staff gave them room key to open all doors. Not safe situation. There's no windows, they could simply knock on calm matter or once try open door, if they see safety lock is on, give person few seconds to open it, instead act like it's a bin laden raid in Afghanistan. Something big was up. The excuse I heard from staff was BS based on everything I'm reading here and saw. Someone important was being searched for, or some other politics are going on. I have seen them raid Adelitas club, when full of people and was told that's normal LOL.
Captain Solo
08-29-19, 18:48
Tuesday night HK was not crowded, about 80 girls with lots of hot girls, at least 2 dozens nice, clean, healthy, pretty girls whom my dick would be very happy to get to know. Quite a few new, young girls I had not seen in the past. HK is unpredictable in the talent department.
On the way down I kept thinking about Sasha, one of the hottest girls in HK. She had not been working in HK for months. I was hoping she would show. After fucking pretty street girl Monica furiously, I came back to HK, drinking Hk free beers, sitting at the bar watching the strip show to recoup. There were a few tall, tats-free, beautiful strippers, model-quality types, whom I would love to get to know.
Incredibly found Sasha standing near the bar drinking a ficha. She said her son is 6. She missed him and had been staying home with him for 6 months. HK girls seem to have their flexible HK jobs. They would work and save up then stay home a couple months, returning to work only when the money runs low. She looked good, tall, lanky, about 5' 10 in heels, pretty face in her long willowy dark brown hair, with a sweet, shy smile, little make up, all natural assets, perky boobs, nice butt, long limbs, beautiful light skin, tats-free. She's a classy girl, very bright, learned English on the job in a few years and spoke properly without accent. She can put on a classy, sexy strip show and is a popular stripper. She was sitting right next to me at the bar, but a guy was buying her fichas non stop, so I could not talk to her. Besides I was still low on ammo and could not pop the invite for her to mi cama.
The wingman came down after bagging 2 HK girls. He complained about 1 cold, hard ***** and wanted dinner. We found a table and ordered 2 dinners for $12 with Azul's coupon. The 12-ozs rib eye was grilled rare and cut up as ordered. It was tender, juicy and fatty with all the trimmings, very tasty with HK's free beers. I had a steak for lunch but could not pass up Azul's good steak deal. Weighed down with all that fatty food, the prospect of fucking Sasha just seemed a little more remote. A few Indian guys at the next table were pulling girls after girls for fichas and lap dances. Looked like they found and enjoyed their bargain basement deals.
The bro was working the club, talking to girls with his animated manners. Did not know what he the hell he was talking about, but the girls were smiling, touching and squeezing him. Sasha had left the ficha guy and was standing at the rail on the balcony watching the strip show with her long legs and her sexy ass. My stomach was still full but I relished embracing her warm and beautiful body in bed and was afraid some guy may scoop her up for the rest of the night. I made a quick round of the 2nd floor, looking at all other girls, secretly swallowing a small sliver of Viagra, about 10 MG to make sure my dick would rise up for the occasion.
Came back to Sasha at the rail, holding her with my arm around her back, kissing the back of her neck, nibbling her ear lobes, popped the question for the hotel. She acted surprised, asked me twice if I really wanted to do it. Yes, I really wanted her and had been thinking about her for months. We walked out the back door. She looked taller than the security guys, took the black robe for her self, so I skipped their robe tip. We walked to hotel Cascada with my arms around her waist, the cool night breeze billowing her black robe.
She looked stunning with her clothes off, tall and lanky, her body sexy and perfect with unblemished light skin, not even a wrinkle, like this girl in the pics. She was smiling, her face looked sweet and pretty. I came over, embracing her, kissing her face and her boobs. She smelled fantastic with a light fragrance. My dick got aroused quickly. Mission was ready. Laid her down in bed, kissing her mouth, sucking on her nips, rubbing her clit to get her aroused. Her coochie was getting wet and mushy. She was moaning softly; her eyes dreamy. Her clit got oversensitive so she asked me to stop. She got on top inserted my dick, riding me CG, moaning softly with each thrust. She wanted doggie. I was ramming her pretty hard. She was moaning louder and louder. I laid her flat out in bed, kissing, sucking, biting her lightly all over. She said her skin was sensitive and she got bruises easily. I got a raging hard on for this pretty, classy girl. It was delicious penetrating her pussy in missionary, kissing her lips, inhaling her feminine fragrance. She came a couple times, moaning, rolling head, biting lips, clawing my back, squeezing my nips until they hurt. I was still plunging into her when she started to get sore and asked me to finish. I have to buy some lubes in gel packs to make sure the girls won't get sore.
Had a long and delicious session with this sweet, classy, beautiful girl, feeling very close to her, did not feel exhausted at the end. I was embracing, kissing her at the sink. She said I was a gentleman, a caballero, very strong but may be I was on Viagra. I told her I loved her and had the hot for her. I got so hot for her, forgot to ask her for pics, but she looks hot like this tall, beautiful girl in the pic, her face even prettier. Will ask her for pics next time. My apologies.
BTW if you sweet talk to the girls, they will give you low local rates, which are about half what they quote the dumb noobs, also giving liberal access to their sexy bodies and all sorts of sexy extras. Act nice, sweet, gentlemanly to them, giving them lots of compliments to have their sweet companies, lie if you have to hehe.
Tuesday night HK was not crowded, about 80 girls with lots of hot girls, at least 2 dozens nice, clean, healthy, pretty girls whom my dick would be very happy to get to know. Quite a few new, young girls I had not seen in the past. HK is unpredictable in the talent department.
On the way down I kept thinking about Sasha, one of the hottest girls in HK. She had not been working in HK for months. I was hoping she would show. After fucking pretty street girl Monica furiously, I came back to HK, drinking Hk free beers, sitting at the bar watching the strip show to recoup. There were a few tall, tats-free, beautiful strippers, model-quality types, whom I would love to get to know.
Incredibly found Sasha standing near the bar drinking a ficha. She said her son is 6. She missed him and had been staying home with him for 6 months. HK girls seem to have their flexible HK jobs. They would work and save up then stay home a couple months, returning to work only when the money runs low. She looked good, tall, lanky, about 5' 10 in heels, pretty face in her long willowy dark brown hair, with a sweet, shy smile, little make up, all natural assets, perky boobs, nice butt, long limbs, beautiful light skin, tats-free. She's a classy girl, very bright, learned English on the job in a few years and spoke properly without accent. She can put on a classy, sexy strip show and is a popular stripper. She was sitting right next to me at the bar, but a guy was buying her fichas non stop, so I could not talk to her..Damn fine reporting, I've always noticed your reports from your quality of writing.
Tuesday night HK was not crowded, about 80 girls with lots of hot girls, at least 2 dozens nice, clean, healthy, pretty girls whom my dick would be very happy to get to know. Quite a few new, young girls I had not seen in the past. HK is unpredictable in the talent department.
On the way down I kept thinking about Sasha, one of the hottest girls in HK. She had not been working in HK for months. I was hoping she would show. After fucking pretty street girl Monica furiously, I came back to HK, drinking Hk free beers, sitting at the bar watching the strip show to recoup. There were a few tall, tats-free, beautiful strippers, model-quality types, whom I would love to get to know.
Incredibly found Sasha standing near the bar drinking a ficha. She said her son is 6. She missed him and had been staying home with him for 6 months. HK girls seem to have their flexible HK jobs. They would work and save up then stay home a couple months, returning to work only when the money runs low. She looked good, tall, lanky, about 5' 10 in heels, pretty face in her long willowy dark brown hair, with a sweet, shy smile, little make up, all natural assets, perky boobs, nice butt, long limbs, beautiful light skin, tats-free. She's a classy girl, very bright, learned English on the job in a few years and spoke properly without accent. She can put on a classy, sexy strip show and is a popular stripper. She was sitting right next to me at the bar, but a guy was buying her fichas non stop, so I could not talk to her. Besides I was still low on ammo and could not pop the invite for her to mi cama.
The wingman came down after bagging 2 HK girls. He complained about 1 cold, hard ***** and wanted dinner. We found a table and ordered 2 dinners for $12 with Azul's coupon. The 12-ozs rib eye was grilled rare and cut up as ordered. It was tender, juicy and fatty with all the trimmings, very tasty with HK's free beers. I had a steak for lunch but could not pass up Azul's good steak deal. Weighed down with all that fatty food, the prospect of fucking Sasha just seemed a little more remote. A few Indian guys at the next table were pulling girls after girls for fichas and lap dances. Looked like they found and enjoyed their bargain basement deals..Thanks for the report!
I haven't seen Sasha for a while. Good for you that she still gives you low local rates.
Long Don Silva
08-30-19, 22:53
I was also in a room at Cascadas when it got raided. They just barged right in, but couldn't open it more than a few inches thanks to the extra security latch. I yelled at them to close the door, but they persisted and I realized this was serious. When I finally opened up, I saw the ski masks and assault rifle, and thought this might be the end of Long Don. I put my hands up in the air and they told me to turn around and face the wall. A few seconds later, they said thank you and left.
Tuesday I was looking at the Hong Kong girls, I took a quick estimate, the ones not dancing or with a guy buying her a drink, 75% were on the phone. I know they have to put on hours and days in order to work weekends but maybe they should make a no cell policy like many stores do. Or let them stay home work less days. Anyone notice this?
Captain Solo
08-31-19, 22:06
Tuesday night went to HK with a bro, arriving about 8 PM. First time I saw Rebecca in HK. She was standing near the stage for a long time, watching strippers intently like she was trying to learn the moves. She was tall, lanky, about 5'8 in heel. Her face looked pretty with long straight brunette hair; her body overall beautiful with sexy, feminine curves, light skin, no tats, one of the most beautiful body in my taste. Overall she looked like a movie star. Took her upstairs for a session with my standard HK offer. I rented a VIP room, but the Cascada guy at the elevator still asked for my room number, WTF, for purposes I only understood later.
Up close under the bright lights, she had pimples on her face and her body with a cesarean scar on her lower belly. Her boobs were perfectly round, perky be cups with small pink nipples. I took a few pics with her smiling sweetly. She was brand-new in the business, not knowing what to do with me in bed. I had her laying down in bed, looking deeply into her pretty eyes, kissing her mouth, sucking on her tits while fingering her pussy. She was smiling sweetly, purring softly, her eyes wide open in pleasure.
I got aroused quickly with her pretty face and her sexy body, raising a major erection. She was fumbling with my dick, giving me a lame CBJ, at times staring at it like a monster hehe. Obviously she was a sweet girl, new to the business, and had not learned sex techniques like other HK pros. I got so horny for her, kissing her mouth then moved down sucking on her tits, kissing her abdomen. I was going to return the favor by eating out her pussy, but when my nose got below her navel, I got attacked by an offensive odor, like fresh [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113), emanating from her crotch. Damn. I got really turned off, just wanted to get the session over with.
Got on top of her, sucking on her mouth, driving my dick deep into her pussy, which was looser than I liked. She was groaning, showing some enjoyment, but obviously inexperienced in sex, her arms and legs were flailing all over me. I was starting to feel good with my dick, when Cascada's clean guy started knocking on the door. I had to yell at him to fuck off. So HK also tries to control the length of time girls spend in your own room. Damn. From now on always give the elevator guys fake room numbers so they cannot knock hehe.
I popped, but the session was far less sexy, loving, exciting and satisfying than sessions with a few favorite street girls, especially with the bad fecal odor. We finished. I quickly went to the shower to take off the condom, She sat on the bed, putting on her panties. I suggested she wash herself in the shower but she shook her head, declining. She did not even wipe off her crotch with tissues. Damn. She looked very beautiful and acted nice and sweet, but was not verbal like a friend, and apparently she had not learned proper hygiene practices. Damn. Got her tel number but I felt like I wasted a session. Should have gone with my favorite street girls, but it was rainy and cold in Tijuana and not too many street girls showed up for work.
Sat at the bar near the stage, waiting for my wingman. He took HK's pretty twin sisters, Sandra and Alejandra, to the hotel. They are bigger than my taste with pretty faces looking like Korean or Han Chinese. The wingman then took another stripper with a pretty face but with loads of large tats to the room. This guy started the night, only wanted to go to Tijuana for the taco al pastor, no girls hehe.
Had fun bullshitting with guys sitting at the bar. Found 2 new guys who wanted to car pool. Mexican guy sitting next to me was fun. He's a dentist living in Encinitas, working in Tijuana, promising to fix my teeth for free. He showed me the pics of his HK girl friend, a typically heavy girl in her mid 30's or early 40's. Working somewhere in the club. He bought me a couple beers, telling me he had $5,000 cash on him, showing me big wads of $100 bills in his back pocket. Damn. I asked if he was in the cartel, but he denied. We exchanged tel numbers to meet in the future.
Had a fairly fun night, did not get home until 3:30 AM. I would do Rebecca again for her beauty and her sweet innocence, but would ask her to shower before bed.
Tuesday I was looking at the Hong Kong girls, I took a quick estimate, the ones not dancing or with a guy buying her a drink, 75% were on the phone. I know they have to put on hours and days in order to work weekends but maybe they should make a no cell policy like many stores do. Or let them stay home work less days. Anyone notice this?Yep. Noted it. The cell is a worst problem than all the other bars. I noticed that Adelaide's chicas don't normally carry phones.
Tuesday I was looking at the Hong Kong girls, I took a quick estimate, the ones not dancing or with a guy buying her a drink, 75% were on the phone. I know they have to put on hours and days in order to work weekends but maybe they should make a no cell policy like many stores do. Or let them stay home work less days. Anyone notice this?Yes, the girls should not be on their cell phones. It's a major turn-off. They should be dancing on the poles or on stage or trying to snag their next palo.
Also, I think HK should lose the gimmicky outfit occasions, but have one day in the week where the chicas dress elegantly-- skirts or dresses. Maybe on a Tuesday. Nice change of pace.
Captain Solo
09-01-19, 17:19
Tuesday night drove down with 3 bros. 4 of us in my little sports car were kind of cramped, but it beats staying home and jack off to porn hehe.
HK had lots of hot talents this Tuesday night. About 60 girls were hanging out in the club. Rose was stripping, She's pretty and looks slutty, light skin, nice, sexy legs. The 2 girls in the foam show on the South Stage even looked good.
I had a hot session with Karin in the alley. She's a girl with a pretty, smiling face. Went back to HK to recharge, found a few hot choices, but Ruth had the lean, tall, healthy, sexy body and a very pretty face I prefer. I have seen her on and off a few times in HK and wanted to do her. So it was the right time.
I asked and she confirmed, yes she would go arriba. Dragged her to a booth, bought her a drink to get to know her more intimately. Her body looked lean and healthy, light skin with large red rose tat on her right thigh with the word "faith," and a smaller tat on her left shoulder. Her face was very pretty with large round eyes, straight nose, sexy mouth. She would not let me kiss her mouth, grope her crotch or squeeze her boobs under a padded bra, big warning flags, but I was smitten by her pretty face. She wanted $100. I countered with 1,000 pesos. She shook her head, finishing her ficha and grabbed her hand bag, ready to go. Finally got her to agree to 1,600 pesos. She refused kissing.
In Cascadas, she wanted money first. I resisted but she just sat in her clothes on the bed, looking at me with her stern eyes, so I gave her the money. She took a long shower of her crotch and urged me to do the same. She took the towel off, showing her completely flat chest with 2 large pencil eraser nips sticking out. She looked like a guy! I suspected her boobs may be small, but she had no boobs, just a flat chest with 2 pencil erasers nips. This was the reason she was hiding her chest and insisted on money upfront. She looked like a boy with her flat chest. Damn. I was disgusted! Look at her large hand in the pic. The bros confirmed she's a hard-core lesbian.
She gave me a long and vigorous CBJ. I got only semi hard after the hard session with Karin, so I asked her to get on top for RCG then CG. Her CG was lame. She only let a third of my dick in her pussy and was moving lazily, making fake hissing sound. I asked her to lay down for missionary. She clenched her thighs hard, allowing only the tip of my dick in her pussy. We got going only a few minutes. She showed me her watch and declared time was up. We had an argument. She agreed to extend 3 minutes. After that she just pushed me off, saying the 30 minutes started after we walked past Cascada's reception, and they can verify it. Fuck! I was pissed off.
She quickly got back to HK, dancing on the South bar near the hot tub. This lesbian Ruth is one of the coldest, hardest, worst cuunts I have dealt with and many years. Should be avoided! Don't let her rob you then give you a nasty time in bed.
You been to Hong Kong enough to know to avoid those chicks. If they don't flirt before the drink, they don't get a drink. If the drink is not a lot fun activities, they sure don't get sex from me. And if they need more than 70 absolutely not. Not even for a hottie. The more $$ they ask for, the less interested in banging me. No sex is better than bad expensive sex. In my opinion anyway. Sometimes it's better to drink first so you can find almost all the girls attractive. And if you are under 30, find a way to get into the older thicker woman so your options increase.
You been to Hong Kong enough to know to avoid those chicks. If they don't flirt before the drink, they don't get a drink. If the drink is not a lot fun activities, they sure don't get sex from me. And if they need more than 70 absolutely not. Not even for a hottie. The more $$ they ask for, the less interested in banging me. No sex is better than bad expensive sex. In my opinion anyway. Sometimes it's better to drink first so you can find almost all the girls attractive. And if you are under 30, find a way to get into the older thicker woman so your options increase.Spot on. The purpose of the drink is to see if the girl is going to be fun upstairs. And if she is not fun in the bar, she is hell not going to be fun upstairs. Same with the pricing. If she insist on an outrageous price (more than $70) she is not in the mood to have sex with you. It's her polite no thank you.
ScatManDoo
09-02-19, 10:39
You been to Hong Kong enough to know to avoid those chicks. If they don't flirt before the drink, they don't get a drink. If the drink is not a lot fun activities, they sure don't get sex from me. And if they need more than 70 absolutely not. Not even for a hottie. The more $$ they ask for, the less interested in banging me. No sex is better than bad expensive sex. In my opinion anyway. You have a much lower number of posts than the poster you're addressing, yet it is you that sounds more like a vet than a rookie at this game.
Thanks man. Is there a particular one anyone can recommend?You've been given poor information. There are no more strip clubs on Revu, save two. Zorro Bar is more or less adjacent to Hotel Nelson. Some guys like it, some don't. There's used to be a gay bar next door. It may still be there. The other is at the other end of Revu, on 9th. Amnesia, famous for being even more of a rip off than HK. All others, Madonna, Peanuts and Beer, and so forth, are long gone.
Thanks for the info everyone! I will be in La Zona this weekend and happy to buy a round!
It's been about two years and I was wondering, is staying at Cascadas worth it anymore? From what I read lately, I get the impression the HK scene has become super transactional and that I am just as likely to have a run in with a ratero or pig while looking for SG action.
Thanks!
Spot on. The purpose of the drink is to see if the girl is going to be fun upstairs. And if she is not fun in the bar, she is hell not going to be fun upstairs. Same with the pricing. If she insist on an outrageous price (more than $70) she is not in the mood to have sex with you. It's her polite no thank you.Exactly. When a girl is into you, she will do it for free almost. I've had bar girls drop to 30 because I kept saying no but I kept kissing them. One was drunk and wanted to come to my room free but I didn't want a legal problem. But yeah very few fake it very well. And I'm in last 10% of my age group on tinder so I am not bragging. But you got to find a way to turn her on before hand.
You've been given poor information. There are no more strip clubs on Revu, save two. Zorro Bar is more or less adjacent to Hotel Nelson. Some guys like it, some don't. There's used to be a gay bar next door. It may still be there. The other is at the other end of Revu, on 9th. Amnesia, famous for being even more of a rip off than HK. All others, Madonna, Peanuts and Beer, and so forth, are long gone.Fond memories of Peanuts and Beer.
Thanks for the info everyone! I will be in La Zona this weekend and happy to buy a round!
It's been about two years and I was wondering, is staying at Cascadas worth it anymore? From what I read lately, I get the impression the HK scene has become super transactional and that I am just as likely to have a run in with a ratero or pig while looking for SG action.
Thanks!True but policia way better than ratero. In the alley policia are both parked in cars, standing on sidewalk, and driving through, at almost all times. I've only been stopped by policia four times, no money stolen. Generally I keep my chica conversations very short under 20 seconds and I don't do it in front of policia. The rateros. I don't know how to stop them. Never seen them attack someone in the street in front of or behind Hong Kong. It's the rest that's buyer beware.
ClamSlammer
09-03-19, 12:08
You might want to hit up strip clubs on revolucion for this type of experience. These places don't have hotels attached to them. They either have private booths or small rooms with a nice big couch. I used to frequent these places a lot years ago but now only stick to mainly HK and Adelitas. Revolucion is only a very short cab ride away from the zona. You could even walk there from the zona but I wouldn't recommend doing that if you're a newbie.
Thanks man. Is there a particular one anyone can recommend?The information provided by Nothing24 is accurate. There is a strip club on Revoluction called Amnesia. It does not have a hotel attached. It does have private booths or small rooms. Revolucion is a very short cab ride, one block to be exact, from the Zona. What Nothing24 wrote is factually true. This cannot be disputed by anyone with an IQ above 0.
Captain Solo
09-03-19, 18:56
To Dodger69.
I have seen Ruth with her pretty face a few times in HK and really wanted to do her.
I had to have her that night, ignored big warning flags, got played by her, broke my own rules and got fucked up my ass by a flat-chested lesbian.
Just so the bros are aware of this and her games to her. Most HK girls are nice, sweet, sexy, but the hardened lesbians hate men and can play hard games.
Scudrucker
09-03-19, 20:44
I too am interested in off zone action. I tried that club next to the casino but myself, the older girl and the mesero were the only ones there.
After her one ficha, I bailed back to HK.
Most say Amnesia is a rip off so I have not ventured but to be honest, I kinda like the seedy bar and coach with a curtain.
I cannot put my finger on why, but for me I sometimes like the sneaky. Greasy hide in the corner way it used to be.
Years ago in Canadian strip bars. You bargained for "extras" in a booth or behind a curtain.
Do not get me wrong, the zona is great and am so glad I found out about the bars therein but an old strip bar with a private booth or couch had its allure.
The stupid thing is that if nothing was allowed in a HK booth and meseros were checking, I would be begging the girls for it.
I need to have my head examined.
Captain Solo
09-03-19, 22:43
Tuesday after a full night of lots of delicious meats at the AYCE Churrascaria do Brasil, 5 hot girls in Cascada's beds between 2 of us, wingman and I checked out about 2:30 AM. We left some changes on the drawer for the clean up crew.
Reception had guys check the room as usual. After a while reception said we took 2 beers from the fridge and charged us $18, same ficha price for girls in HK. I asked wingman if he took any beers; he said no. I brought a bottle of tequila and he brought his unopened orange juice to the room to party with the girls, so we had no need to take beers from the fridge. I had noticed the fridge looked pretty empty when checked in, but thought the hotel people knew what they were doing during a hectic labor day weekend. Lucky I know reception guys like Arturo and Javier very well. After some more checking, Arturo refunded me full $30 fridge deposit.
The bros should ask reception what they stock in the fridge and take its inventory upon taking the room. If any items missing, call reception to send a guy to verify. It could get expensive if they claim you took 10 drinks hehe.
BTW Churrascaria do Brasil is in a shopping mall on Blvd Agua Caliente, further South from La Zona than Mr Pampas, but just about every cut of their meats are higher grades and expertly grilled to rare or medium, juicy, tasty, tender and flavorful. Mr. Pampas meats tend to be dry, tough and overcooked. They also have more fresh varieties at the salad bar, about $12 weeknights after 6, no waiting for tables like Mr Pampas, highly recommended. My wingman is a professional chef and he liked it. Uber ride from La Zona about $6, 10, 15 minutes.
I went through 5 different girls with drinks before settling on the prettiest one of them all. They all wanted $100 for a session and the one I took upstairs wanted $100 no less. Disappointing, my expectations were set too high; I was expecting GFE FS. All I got and only allowed was CBJ and covered penetration. And the girl had the gall to ask me to take her to America to go shopping? *rolls eyes*.
Is this experience strictly on a girl by girl case or is this the norm? I was so disappointed I didn't bother with anyone else for the rest of the night. For $100 I had a phenomenal time in Pattaya in one of those massage brothels.
Tuesday after a full night of lots of delicious meats at the AYCE Churrascaria do Brasil, 5 hot girls in Cascada's beds between 2 of us, wingman and I checked out about 2:30 AM. We left some changes on the drawer for the clean up crew.
Reception had guys check the room as usual. After a while reception said we took 2 beers from the fridge and charged us $18, same ficha price for girls in HK. I asked wingman if he took any beers; he said no. I brought a bottle of tequila and he brought his unopened orange juice to the room to party with the girls, so we had no need to take beers from the fridge. I had noticed the fridge looked pretty empty when checked in, but thought the hotel people knew what they were doing during a hectic labor day weekend. Lucky I know reception guys like Arturo and Javier very well. After some more checking, Arturo refunded me full $30 fridge deposit.
The bros should ask reception what they stock in the fridge and take its inventory upon taking the room. If any items missing, call reception to send a guy to verify. It could get expensive if they claim you took 10 drinks hehe.
BTW Churrascaria do Brasil is in a shopping mall on Blvd Agua Caliente, further South from La Zona than Mr Pampas, but just about every cut of their meats are higher grades and expertly grilled to rare or medium, juicy, tasty, tender and flavorful. Mr. Pampas meats tend to be dry, tough and overcooked. They also have more fresh varieties at the salad bar, about $12 weeknights after 6, no waiting for tables like Mr Pampas, highly recommended. My wingman is a professional chef and he liked it. Uber ride from La Zona about $6, 10, 15 minutes.I learned to check fridge due to another poster who said he takes photos all day long of the fridge in case someone comes in the room. Basically, I think fridge should have 10 drinks. If it doesn't tell front desk they will write it on deposit slip. One guy gave me 29 back. I didn't want to be rude counting 20 singles in front of him. But I learned you need to. Same with waiters, maybe 10% in all bars will keep $ for themselves. Had Hong Kong waiter looked like I robbed his house he was so angry I bought a girl two drinks and then said no more. He literally was making faces yelling "see'Mon." man. "why not". I should of reported him. I've learned once you sit in Hong Kong table area, everyone becomes a ass. Waiters a lot ruder, the sales people interior drink every 15 seconds. Hong Kong needs to know about this thing called tinder. It's Hong Kongs competition. I don't need to be yelled at by waiters after spending 30 on drinks that lasted 18 minutes. Or sold crap I don't want by beggers every 20 seconds. There's a reason American restaurants don't sell you stuff animals every 10 seconds while you eat. Because it will cost you customers. They must be forced to let these annoying people into the bars.
I learned to check fridge due to another poster who said he takes photos all day long of the fridge in case someone comes in the room. Basically, I think fridge should have 10 drinks. If it doesn't tell front desk they will write it on deposit slip. One guy gave me 29 back. I didn't want to be rude counting 20 singles in front of him. But I learned you need to. Same with waiters, maybe 10% in all bars will keep $ for themselves. Had Hong Kong waiter looked like I robbed his house he was so angry I bought a girl two drinks and then said no more. He literally was making faces yelling "see'Mon." man. "why not". I should of reported him. I've learned once you sit in Hong Kong table area, everyone becomes a ass. Waiters a lot ruder, the sales people interior drink every 15 seconds. Hong Kong needs to know about this thing called tinder. It's Hong Kongs competition. I don't need to be yelled at by waiters after spending 30 on drinks that lasted 18 minutes. Or sold crap I don't want by beggers every 20 seconds. There's a reason American restaurants don't sell you stuff animals every 10 seconds while you eat. Because it will cost you customers. They must be forced to let these annoying people into the bars.LOL and I though I was singled out by the waiter mafia for extortion. I guess the waiter-blackmail scheme is widespread.
Captain Solo
09-06-19, 02:51
HK has a $7 door cover charge for a Heineken Thu, Fri and Sun after 8 PM. The guys at the door make commission from these sales, so they can be greedy.
If you went to hotel with a HK girl and comeback, they would assume you already paid the cover and let you in. Fro non VIPs, if you wander in and out for other bars, tacos or street girls and come back, the door guys usually hassle you to pay the cover again.
The easiest way to avoid this hassle is, when you pay for the first cover, make the door guy write down a receipt for $7 on that date and time. Then he cannot deny you already paid. If they still hassle you, tell them you want to talk to the owner to complain, and have front desk guy raise him on the phone. That usually puts the fear into them and they will stop their hassle.
I went through 5 different girls with drinks before settling on the prettiest one of them all. They all wanted $100 for a session and the one I took upstairs wanted $100 no less. Disappointing, my expectations were set too high; I was expecting GFE FS. All I got and only allowed was CBJ and covered penetration. And the girl had the gall to ask me to take her to America to go shopping? *rolls eyes*.
Is this experience strictly on a girl by girl case or is this the norm? I was so disappointed I didn't bother with anyone else for the rest of the night. For $100 I had a phenomenal time in Pattaya in one of those massage brothels.My two cents: It's just like that - $ 100 . Because prostitution in the US is illegal, in the US strip club you can't even touch the girl. There is no competition from legal prostitution in the US and Tijuana Zona Norte may dictate prices. Mexicans are not stupid and they know it. It's a bit cheaper at Adelita and other clubs $60-$80 or SG. Also, a ticket to Pattaya costs over $ 1000 RT plus hotel and food.
I saw the ads inside Hong Kong. It looks like the big party Sunday September 15 - Mexico Independence Day.
OrganicAlo
09-06-19, 15:28
I saw the ads inside Hong Kong. It looks like the big party Sunday September 15 - Mexico Independence Day.I'll be there Sept. 17th. Arriving around 4 pm and will leave the following morning.
Baxter Slade
09-06-19, 16:28
I saw the ads inside Hong Kong. It looks like the big party Sunday September 15 - Mexico Independence Day.And if I may add Saturday the 14th will be pretty wild down there also.
I went through 5 different girls with drinks before settling on the prettiest one of them all. They all wanted $100 for a session and the one I took upstairs wanted $100 no less. Disappointing, my expectations were set too high; I was expecting GFE FS. All I got and only allowed was CBJ and covered penetration. And the girl had the gall to ask me to take her to America to go shopping? *rolls eyes*.
Is this experience strictly on a girl by girl case or is this the norm? I was so disappointed I didn't bother with anyone else for the rest of the night. For $100 I had a phenomenal time in Pattaya in one of those massage brothels.Unfortunately, the woman are not obligated to perform like a GFE. A lot guys fly into town, thinking these are professional sex performers. Only a few are. Most are just mom's working for three months a year to make 25 grand to support their children. When in Hong Kong, 95% of the guys are practically not doing anything to the girls for their drink. They should be touching and kissing them, or giving them the boot if they ain't into it. I have been with maybe 15 bar girls. Two twice. The only "bad" one, was the only one I didn't buy a drink for. . Basically I'm cheap, so I'm not banging anyone anyway unless they were so good during their two drinks that I feel like they earned my 60 bucks. And that's all they get. Cause that's all I have on me I tell them.
ScatManDoo
09-07-19, 17:48
I went through 5 different girls with drinks before settling on the prettiest one of them all. They all wanted $100 for a session and the one I took upstairs wanted $100 no less. Disappointing, my expectations were set too high; I was expecting GFE FS. All I got and only allowed was CBJ and covered penetration. And the girl had the gall to ask me to take her to America to go shopping? *rolls eyes*.
Is this experience strictly on a girl by girl case or is this the norm? I was so disappointed I didn't bother with anyone else for the rest of the night. For $100 I had a phenomenal time in Pattaya in one of those massage brothels.In Hong Kong Bar what you are allowed to do or restricted from doing up in the room does indeed vary from girl to girl. Experienced mongers often talk and work-out these specific details (along with groping) while they purchase lady-drinks for the chicas while in HK bar. If it matters to you whether you will get GFE treatment for things like a BJ or sex without a condom, or kissing on lips or on either person's body parts should probably be worked out in an interview conducted in the bar over drinks. If it matters to you whether you pay up front or afterwards (paga despues) should also be worked out & agreed to BEFORE going upstairs, not argued about once you both are upstairs in the hotel room.
With all the talk of crap service at HK, I have to give credit when it's due. Usually you run into snobby girls and obnoxious waiters all night long. But I was partying late Thursday into the morning getting the buzz on and I noticed that HK folks were being kind of nice. One girl was really nice to me about something so I wanted to tip her and she declined and told me to keep my money wtf. A couple of the security guys are actually nice guys, always pleasant to the regulars. But late into the morning I stumbled into one of the hottest dancers there. I've seen her for months, she slays it on the pole or on stage. But I figured she was way too pretty to give GFE so I never bothered. I couldn't have been more wrong, easily the nicest girl I've met in Tijuana. She says she's happy just to make $1 or $100, it's all good wtf. We spent a couple of hours drinking and groping. Such a good time I only had 2 bucks left. So I figure I'm screwed and I'll have to walk back to the border. But luckily the HK driver was right there and he says tip whatever you can. Really cool guy that saved me a lot of time. It's probably never going to happen again like that LOL, but HK has been taking a beating and I wanted to share that it can be good.
With all the talk of crap service at HK, I have to give credit when it's due. Usually you run into snobby girls and obnoxious waiters all night long. But I was partying late Thursday into the morning getting the buzz on and I noticed that HK folks were being kind of nice. One girl was really nice to me about something so I wanted to tip her and she declined and told me to keep my money wtf. A couple of the security guys are actually nice guys, always pleasant to the regulars. But late into the morning I stumbled into one of the hottest dancers there. I've seen her for months, she slays it on the pole or on stage. But I figured she was way too pretty to give GFE so I never bothered. I couldn't have been more wrong, easily the nicest girl I've met in Tijuana. She says she's happy just to make $1 or $100, it's all good wtf. We spent a couple of hours drinking and groping. Such a good time I only had 2 bucks left. So I figure I'm screwed and I'll have to walk back to the border. But luckily the HK driver was right there and he says tip whatever you can. Really cool guy that saved me a lot of time. It's probably never going to happen again like that LOL, but HK has been taking a beating and I wanted to share that it can be good.In Hong Kong, my favorite waiter is a gentleman with gray hair, his name is Jesus number 72. Always polite and helpful.
Captain Solo
09-09-19, 06:29
Arrived about 6:30. HK was already crowded with about 80 girls working, lots of hot new girls I have not met or seen.
I found at least a dozen girls that looked near 10's in my book, lean, beautiful, healthy, nice, clean, proportioned, sexy bodies with pretty, happy faces. Anabella was dancing on bar Kowloon, jet black straight hair, sweet pretty face, perfect body, long legs with soft, light, unblemished skin. My wingman thought he boobs were implants. She was hanging out a long time doing no business. By 8, more girls came in but the hottest girls were all taken. They just disappeared from the main floor and never came back. It may make sense to arrive by 6 and pick out the hottest girls before they are taken.
My wingman came back at 8 and said he was hungry. We decided to order Azul's 2-4-1 dinners. All tables on 1st and 2nd floor were taken. We went up to 3rd floor where there were lots of empty tables. I thought 3rd floor would be hot, but it has a huge cold air outlet, blowing a shaft of cold air down to the floors below near the staircase. Lots of girls go in and out of the huge locker room and office on 3rd floor. Also many hot girls hang out on 3rd floor where the atmosphere was slower, quiet, more relaxed. 3rd floor would be the perfect place to drink and have private moments with your sweethearts.
We ordered 1 rib eye and 1 flank steak for 210 pesos with all the trimmings. With tips it costed $6 each. The mesero Carlos #113 even brought salt, pepper and all sorts of sauces and condiments. My rib eye was about over 1 lbs, grilled rare. Had to make the mesero take it back to cut it up. Will order medium next time. Had a good dinner while eyeing hot girls. I was stuffed.
Azul has to be the best and cheapest steak deal in Tijuana.
Scudrucker
09-09-19, 18:32
I can understand your frustration and I have also been frustrated at their nagging so you have to learn to step up or find a quieter bar.
No is still no and do not be afraid to spell out what you like and dislike.
There are some good ones (Eduardo and Luis) who really try to help me.
That being said, they can smell a newbie the second they walk in the door.
There are always one or two waiting at the entrance for the guy who walks in with the doe eyed face.
Jackpot.
I remember the first time, led to a table, two girls brought to me immediately who promptly ordered multiple drinks.
I even read about it beforehand, it just happened anyway because I let it.
Do not get me wrong, when I require their services I tip.
The captain speaks the truth about third floor on the weekends.
Bring the girl up there, they will have a harder time finding you as they do not patrol till it gets packed.
To Dodger69.
I have seen Ruth with her pretty face a few times in HK and really wanted to do her.
I had to have her that night, ignored big warning flags, got played by her, broke my own rules and got fucked up my ass by a flat-chested lesbian.
Just so the bros are aware of this and her games to her. Most HK girls are nice, sweet, sexy, but the hardened lesbians hate men and can play hard games.Honestly, we should be thanking Captain Solo for taking the dive for others who might end up getting caught up in Ruth's pretty face.
Captain Solo
09-10-19, 18:36
To Debau,
El Capitan was stupid enough to dive into an empty and hard lesbian pool, breaking his face hehe.
The other hardened lesbian is Yselle, a tall skinny Stripper of the Year with very pretty face, nice, natural boobs, lots of tattoos on her hands and stick thin legs. A couple guys took her to bed, found her disgusted with and hated men, acting angry with lots of rules, no touch boobs, no suck nips, no poking pussy ect. Yselle would sit stiffly with guys for hours without saying or expressing anything. She just doesn't know what to do with guys, but shows lots of fun and affection for girls.
I hope the bros report lots of details about their sessions with girls so we can improve our selection and have good, sexy sessions without being insulted and roughed up by bad girls.
I plan to be there in 16th and 17 Mon. Tuesday after Mexico night. I am hoping all the girls who comes for Mexico night stays next few days. I always wonder where all these girls stays? I am sure they are not from Tijuana. So they staying locally for few months to make money.
And if I may add Saturday the 14th will be pretty wild down there also.
I went through 5 different girls with drinks before settling on the prettiest one of them all. They all wanted $100 for a session and the one I took upstairs wanted $100 no less. Disappointing, my expectations were set too high; I was expecting GFE FS. All I got and only allowed was CBJ and covered penetration. And the girl had the gall to ask me to take her to America to go shopping? *rolls eyes*.
Is this experience strictly on a girl by girl case or is this the norm? I was so disappointed I didn't bother with anyone else for the rest of the night. For $100 I had a phenomenal time in Pattaya in one of those massage brothels.If I were in your shoes and had your budget I would have bought drinks for the 5 prettiest girls, then pick the one I had the most fun with. Fuck the $100 price. My ceiling would have been $70. If she even hesitated, I would have called bachelorette #2 back to sit on my lap and I would do it before bachelorette number 1 leaves. You cannot act like a rich sugar daddy and expect a girlfriend. You acted like a sugar daddy, and so she treated you like a sugar daddy. She asked you to take her shopping thereafter.
Honestly, we should be thanking Captain Solo for taking the dive for others who might end up getting caught up in Ruth's pretty face.Ruth gives me the smile every time I pass her. Pretty girl with great legs. Tempting. Thanks Solo for taking one for the team.
My take on the quality of the waiters of the Big 5, from best to worst:
1. Chevelas.
2. Chicago.
3. Adelitas.
4. Tropicals.
5. HK.
HK waiters are on par with rip off joints like Golden Nugget.
FunkyFunGuy42
09-11-19, 02:22
I plan to be there in 16th and 17 Mon. Tuesday after Mexico night. I am hoping all the girls who comes for Mexico night stays next few days. I always wonder where all these girls stays? I am sure they are not from Tijuana. So they staying locally for few months to make money.Any bros going to be there the 14th? I'll probably be at HK around 1 or 2 in the afternoon.
ClamSlammer
09-11-19, 10:13
My take on the quality of the waiters of the Big 5, from best to worst:
1. Chevelas.
2. Chicago.
3. Adelitas.
4. Tropicals.
5. HK.
HK waiters are on par with rip off joints like Golden Nugget.Chicago has by far the worst scamming meseros in the entire Zona and it's not even close. Pay with pesos and their rip-off rate is literally 100%.
TerOnlyOnce
09-11-19, 15:23
Tuesday night drove down with 3 bros. 4 of us in my little sports car were kind of cramped, but it beats staying home and jack off to porn hehe.
HK had lots of hot talents this Tuesday night. About 60 girls were hanging out in the club. Rose was stripping, She's pretty and looks slutty, light skin, nice, sexy legs. The 2 girls in the foam show on the South Stage even looked good.
I had a hot session with Karin in the alley. She's a girl with a pretty, smiling face. Went back to HK to recharge, found a few hot choices, but Ruth had the lean, tall, healthy, sexy body and a very pretty face I prefer. I have seen her on and off a few times in HK and wanted to do her. So it was the right time.
I asked and she confirmed, yes she would go arriba. Dragged her to a booth, bought her a drink to get to know her more intimately. Her body looked lean and healthy, light skin with large red rose tat on her right thigh with the word "faith," and a smaller tat on her left shoulder. Her face was very pretty with large round eyes, straight nose, sexy mouth. She would not let me kiss her mouth, grope her crotch or squeeze her boobs under a padded bra, big warning flags, but I was smitten by her pretty face. She wanted $100. I countered with 1,000 pesos. She shook her head, finishing her ficha and grabbed her hand bag, ready to go. Finally got her to agree to 1,600 pesos. She refused kissing..LOL! And this is why I will never go back to Hong Kong again!! LOL. I'm telling you guys, this is a perfect example. THIS is exactly what you should expect. THIS has been my standard experience, most of the girls behave just like this. It's actually freaky how so accurate this report is.
In summary: the girl wants $80, she demands the money up front and won't do anything unless you give it to her, and she leaves after 15 minutes of sex LOL. And the sex itself is super super low quality. The most unattractive sex ever basically.
Literally I would say 80-90% of Hong Kong sessions are like this. There really is no point to go. For new guys I recommend going to Hong Kong one time just to see what it's like, bang like 8-10 girls, as much as you can, as many bubble butts as you can. But after that, just never return LOL. Because Hong Kong is a terrible source for consistent sex. You'll get sessions like the one OP posted. At that point you'll just be wasting your money. Seriously. Take your $80 and contribute it to something more reliable and guaranteed. There are better ways to score consistent and fun sex with cute / attractive girls. Hong Kong is not one of those ways.
Captain Solo
09-11-19, 16:32
To Jackie,
You are absolutely right. There are plenty of hot girls in HK to choose from. Find those who treat you with honesty and affection. If not, walk around the club to find another hot girl for your taste. Buy them drinks and Azul's food with the 2-4-1 coupons. Some girls go straight from school to work in HK and are hungry. They would appreciate your caring gestures.
This is no end to greed. You have to set your limits with the girls. Make sure they understand you are not Jeff Bezos wooing Lauren Sanchez, or they would think you are an ATM machine and set goals for themselves to empty out your bank and investment accounts. 2 of my wingmen went dead broke being nice to the girls, buying them fichas all night, giving them loans of $200-300 for emergencies. One girl had 3 kids plus a husband in federal prison for drug charges. She did give him a few free sessions to make up.
The girls should give you about 30 minutes of their company for each ficha. Some young girls like Tequila shots even on empty stomach. They can knock down HK's watered -down shots every 5 minutes. If they drink too fast, ask them to slow down "despacio, por favor. " don't worry about the petulant meseros selling more fichas. Just shoo them away. They learn quick. Keep a bottle of good tequila in the room and offer them shots. They can get very horny and go wild in bed.
You set your limits at $70 or 1,400 pesos for sessions in the hotel which is good. I usually offer them the standard local deal and even the hottest girls would accept. The only time I broke my rules I got fucked up my ass by the flat-chested lesbian Ruth de Monterrey. You should make the standard local offer and mention Tequila shots in the room to sweeten the deal. There are lots of hot girls in HK every night. They are more beautiful, sweeter and sexier than just about anything I found in the US.
If I were in your shoes and had your budget I would have bought drinks for the 5 prettiest girls, then pick the one I had the most fun with. Fuck the $100 price. My ceiling would have been $70. If she even hesitated, I would have called bachelorette #2 back to sit on my lap and I would do it before bachelorette number 1 leaves. You cannot act like a rich sugar daddy and expect a girlfriend. You acted like a sugar daddy, and so she treated you like a sugar daddy. She asked you to take her shopping thereafter.
Scudrucker
09-11-19, 19:04
No question that was a bad break for Solo but from his other posts, he had good sessions too. Not all good and unfortunate that the new pretty ones give the crap.
I am all ears for a better bar and I am happy to have had good times at Adelitas, CC and Trop (I have never scored at Chevales) but the hunt continues.
We have a bar in Mississauga called Café Atlantis. One of a few stripbars where extras can happen. Had a great time there a few occasions so when I travelled to Toronto again I made a point to drop in.
My favorite was not working but wow this pretty girl sat next to me and you know the pitch.
Of course this girl is all over me and after the second song, she whispers that she wants to do more to me.
Boom off we go to a secluded area of the upper floor. I gladly pay $140 cad for a BJ. Then the rules came out and as she applied the condom, I touched it. Well now she has to start all over, it was gruelling and I only stayed to see if she would actually put it in her mouth.
My long point is that its not just HK, you transfer the ***** story to any number of clubs.
I hear great things about Pattaya, Sosua, South America but time and money precludes these places for me.
If I had not found Tijuana I would be roaming Montreal or Toronto.
I sound like a shrill for Tijuana but I am booked to fly again so let the games begin.
Seriously, with 6 days off, I also considered the FKK clubs of Hamburg but the euro is not much better to the Canadian dollar and the jet lag and language. Maybe next time.
Chicago has by far the worst scamming meseros in the entire Zona and it's not even close. Pay with pesos and their rip-off rate is literally 100%.Yes, CC has the worst meseros. And constantly bugging you until you finally leave. I do my best to ignore them and focus on the ladies but the CC meseros really detract from the experience.
DramaFree11
09-11-19, 23:03
LOL! And this is why I will never go back to Hong Kong again! LOL. I'm telling you guys, this is a perfect example. This is exactly what you should expect. This has been my standard experience, most of the girls behave just like this. It's actually freaky how so accurate this report is.
In summary: the girl wants $80, she demands the money up front and won't do anything unless you give it to her, and she leaves after 15 minutes of sex LOL. And the sex itself is super super low quality. The most unattractive sex ever basically.
Literally I would say 80-90% of Hong Kong sessions are like this. There really is no point to go. For new guys I recommend going to Hong Kong one time just to see what it's like, bang like 8-10 girls, as much as you can, as many bubble butts as you can. But after that, just never return LOL. Because Hong Kong is a terrible source for consistent sex. You'll get sessions like the one OP posted. At that point you'll just be wasting your money. Seriously. Take your $80 and contribute it to something more reliable and guaranteed. There are better ways to score consistent and fun sex with cute / attractive girls. Hong Kong is not one of those ways.
Sorry, I've had completely different experiences. I had so many awesome times at HK. Maybe, 20%, average or below, the rest have far surpassed my expectation, but I do the following:
1. Almost never use waiters, I only deal with bartenders and staff at the restaurant.
2. I take girls to Azul.
3. I rent a room for the night.
4. Use the VIP Card.
If you do these 3 simple things this will greatly enhance your experience at HK. For short term there are just not many places in the world then HK.
LOL! And this is why I will never go back to Hong Kong again!! LOL. I'm telling you guys, this is a perfect example. THIS is exactly what you should expect. THIS has been my standard experience, most of the girls behave just like this. It's actually freaky how so accurate this report is.
In summary: the girl wants $80, she demands the money up front and won't do anything unless you give it to her, and she leaves after 15 minutes of sex LOL. And the sex itself is super super low quality. The most unattractive sex ever basically.
Literally I would say 80-90% of Hong Kong sessions are like this. There really is no point to go. For new guys I recommend going to Hong Kong one time just to see what it's like, bang like 8-10 girls, as much as you can, as many bubble butts as you can. But after that, just never return LOL. Because Hong Kong is a terrible source for consistent sex. You'll get sessions like the one OP posted. At that point you'll just be wasting your money. Seriously. Take your $80 and contribute it to something more reliable and guaranteed. There are better ways to score consistent and fun sex with cute / attractive girls. Hong Kong is not one of those ways.My experience is that it comes down to chemistry at the moment. The infamously hot Tiffany that laid there like a zombie for Solo's friend gave me one of the best GFE experience in 10 years. Another favorite told me flat out that if she doesn't like someone, she will end it in 15 minutes, money be damned. That's why I use drinks to feel a woman's mood even if she is a favorite because anyone can have a shitty day at work. The 15 minutes or so that you get with a drink, you have to use it wisely and feel her mood. Buying a chica several drinks while staring at her isn't really going to do the trick.
Chicago has by far the worst scamming meseros in the entire Zona and it's not even close. Pay with pesos and their rip-off rate is literally 100%.When was the last time you went there? A while back, I would agree, but I've had no problems recently.
I visit Chicago every time. I wouldn't say the meseros are bad. There's more meseros per customer than Hong Kong though. My biggest issue with all the bars is, no meseros is assigned a booth. The two minutes neither of us have a drink, while we wait for our beers, six waiters may come up and ask us what we want. Why do they need four times the waiters than necessary? Then, a different waiter picks girls drink up every 40 seconds to feel how much beer is in it. Hong Kong, Chicago, chavelas, same thing. To me Hong Kong has angriest waiters if you cut the girl off after one or two drinks. And 30 minutes a drink? Not usual for myself. Probably 11 minutes.
Words from wise man! I am there next Monday to try it out! This would be my 3rd visit. Driving from Phoenix but worth it.
Last time almost all girl asked 100 buck but most settled for 80. I did paid 100 for one super hot girl but she let me tape whole thing so it was worth it. Almost all girls ask money upfront but my rule is paid after the deed. I remember One girl refused to accept that in room even though she agreed in club. I let her walk away. She was pissed. And so was I as she was hot one. But I had bad experience paying first so I stick to this rule.
To Jackie,
You are absolutely right. There are plenty of hot girls in HK to choose from. Find those who treat you with honesty and affection. If not, walk around the club to find another hot girl for your taste. Buy them drinks and Azul's food with the 2-4-1 coupons. Some girls go straight from school to work in HK and are hungry. They would appreciate your caring gestures.
This is no end to greed. You have to set your limits with the girls. Make sure they understand you are not Jeff Bezos wooing Lauren Sanchez, or they would think you are an ATM machine and set goals for themselves to empty out your bank and investment accounts. 2 of my wingmen went dead broke being nice to the girls, buying them fichas all night, giving them loans of $200-300 for emergencies. One girl had 3 kids plus a husband in federal prison for drug charges. She did give him a few free sessions to make up.
The girls should give you about 30 minutes of their company for each ficha. Some young girls like Tequila shots even on empty stomach. They can knock down HK's watered -down shots every 5 minutes. If they drink too fast, ask them to slow down "despacio, por favor. " don't worry about the petulant meseros selling more fichas. Just shoo them away. They learn quick. Keep a bottle of good tequila in the room and offer them shots. They can get very horny and go wild in bed..
Yes, CC has the worst meseros. And constantly bugging you until you finally leave. I do my best to ignore them and focus on the ladies but the CC meseros really detract from the experience.I was just in CC about 2 hours ago, and the meseros were bugging me less than usual, I have to admit. It was like a 10:1 ratio of women to clients.
TerOnlyOnce
09-12-19, 16:15
My theory is that if you pay first you almost always end up getting fucked over. Meaning, the service will be absolute shit. Once she has the money in hand, you're fucked. You won't have a good time, your time will be shorted, and you'll ultimately be fucked. Think from the girl's perspective, she already has all your money. She's set, she could give a fuck about delivering a good service to you.
But honestly, Hong Kong really takes some finessing in order to get decent value. There's too much bullshit. Waiters, crappy girls, etc. You need to roll through a loooot of shit to find solid girls. It's work basically. The Zona isn't this easy escape that provides a lot of sex. It still takes work and skill.
The last time I was there I saw all these girls with amazing bubble butts. But then I got sad because I realized that almost all of them will demand $80 upfront and give you a 15 minute session. What is even the fucking point? Might as well just not do it, save your money. Going with one of those girls is just throwing away your money man. Which is why when I was there I resisted the temptation cause I know it's just pissing away money for very little return.
KC Questor
09-12-19, 23:36
My theory is that if you pay first you almost always end up getting fucked over. Meaning, the service will be absolute shit. Once she has the money in hand, you're fucked.There's a saying in Mexico: "El mariachi pagado toca mal son" = "The pre-paid musician plays badly".
It's a common enough saying that if the girl insists on getting paid in advance, you can just say "el mariachi pagado. " and she will likely get what you mean. Never pay in advance. The best you should ever do is show her that you have the money but put it back in your pocket or in an inconvenient place (not just on the dresser).
ScatManDoo
09-13-19, 01:50
My theory is that if you pay first you almost always end up getting fucked over. Meaning, the service will be absolute shit.I agree that paying upfront increases the chances of the chica performing poorly, because after you pay she might not care about you being happy with her. But some chicas do perform well, even after receiving payment up front.
But honestly, Hong Kong really takes some finessing in order to get decent value. There's too much bullshit. Waiters, crappy girls, etc. You need to roll through a loooot of shit to find solid girls. It's work basically. The Zona isn't this easy escape that provides a lot of sex. It still takes work and skill.I agree and fortunately there are many chicas in LZ, whom are not working in HK.
The last time I was there I saw all these girls with amazing bubble butts. But then I got sad because I realized that almost all of them will demand $80 upfront and give you a 15 minute session. What is even the fucking point?.You already made your point by writing "almost all of them will demand. ,. ". " At least you realize it is not absolutely all of them. The point is that a mongering vet will learn how to recognize the chicas that likely won't give you a bad session. The experienced monger will learn and perform tests in their chica interactions that help toss aside the chicas likely to displease, and help you know which are more likely to perform well.
If you want to pay after, sort that out in the interview process downstairs in the bar, not after you two have gone up into the room.
Might as well just not do it,For some mongers, maybe you, this could be the only realistic approach.
Going with one of those girls is just throwing away your money man.That might very well be the case for you.
I visit Chicago every time. I wouldn't say the meseros are bad. There's more meseros per customer than Hong Kong though.I think the meseros pay the bar to let them work there. So the bar has little incentive to keep the numbers in balance.
Chica drink flow.
I think the meseros pay the bar to let them work there. So the bar has little incentive to keep the numbers in balance.
ClamSlammer
09-13-19, 12:31
In all the major bars, the meseros pay the bar to work there. That is why there are 10 X more meseros than necessary. CC meseros are by far the most dishonest. You pay with pesos at HK / AB / TB and you have maybe a 5%-10% chance of getting short-changed. At CC the rate is literally 100%. Their posted exchange rate is 19:1 but the meseros charge you 20:1 and pocket the difference. They don't do it sometimes, or half the time, or most of the time. They do it every time.
TerOnlyOnce
09-13-19, 14:25
I agree that paying upfront increases the chances of the chica performing poorly, because after you pay she might not care about you being happy with her. But some chicas do perform well, even after receiving payment up front.
I agree and fortunately there are many chicas in LZ, whom are not working in HK.
You already made your point by writing "almost all of them will demand. ,. ". " At least you realize it is not absolutely all of them. The point is that a mongering vet will learn how to recognize the chicas that likely won't give you a bad session. The experienced monger will learn and perform tests in their chica interactions that help toss aside the chicas likely to displease, and help you know which are more likely to perform well..Let's not forget, in order to do any of this you need to master step number 1: learn Spanish.
If you don't know Spanish, you can't finesse shit. It's hard to interview downstairs without Spanish because you may try to negotiate that you want to pay after, but you may not be aware how you're coming off in Spanish. If you're not phrasing what you want in a positive way, most of the girls will immediately say no. And sometimes the girls act confused after you tell them, so now you don't know if they didn't understand or if they did understand but are just staying silent so they don't "call your bluff".
You got to know Spanish to finesse. It makes it easier to get across what you want. The easiest approach is to pick the hot girl, say "arriba 80 dollars", and then off you go. In my experience though this just does not work out, 85% of the time you get a shit session. You definitely need to interview for a few minutes and find out the following things:
1) how sexual is she, is she flirting a lot, does she let you grope her tits, ass, etc?
2) tell her you want to pay after, if she puts up a fight, leave.
3) tell her you want the full 30 minutes, ask about her prior experiences, tease her to see if she's the kind of girl to leave after 15 minutes of shit sex.
If you're having difficulty going through this interview smoothly, then you're most likely dealing with a hustling and cold hearted *****, at that point you should screen her out.
But again, in order to do any of this, you need to know Spanish. It's definitely not newbie friendly, you need to be experienced to maybe come out ahead here. The newbie will always lose here. Because the newbie method is again as I've stated: pick hot girl, say arriba $80, and off you go. That is a losing method.
TunaSlayer
09-13-19, 20:55
Got really really hammered at HK last night and somewhere in the middle of the session condom fell off and I came in a really hot chick. She didn't mind. O well hope I don't die. It was fun. Last night was good not too crowded and lots of hotties. I only banged one but it was worth it.
ScatManDoo
09-13-19, 21:45
Let's not forget, in order to do any of this you need to master step number 1: learn Spanish.
If you don't know Spanish, you can't finesse shit. It's hard to interview downstairs without Spanish because you may try to negotiate that you want to pay after, but you may not be aware how you're coming off in Spanish. If you're not phrasing what you want in a positive way, most of the girls will immediately say no. And sometimes the girls act confused after you tell them, so now you don't know if they didn't understand or if they did understand but are just staying silent so they don't "call your bluff".
You got to know Spanish to finesse. It makes it easier to get across what you want. The easiest approach is to pick the hot girl, say "arriba 80 dollars", and then off you go. In my experience though this just does not work out, 85% of the time you get a shit session. You definitely need to interview for a few minutes and find out the following things:I made my first visit to La Zona in October 2004.
I found out about La Zona just one or two months earlier on the internet.
It was obvious to me that some Spanish was necessary, but not much Spanish was necessary. Before going to LZ I wrote down and memorized just a few Spanglish phrases. They were geared toward negotiating for sex sessions with street girls.
Tu es muy bonita.
Por mi, sin ropa, fucky / suckie, tres positiones, doscientos pesos.
Si.
No.
Bueno.
After nearly 15 years of visiting la Zona, I maybe know about 200 to 300 words in Spanish. Not enough to be conversational in Spanish.
With my broken Spanglish, I sound like a two year-old when I try to speak in Spanish. Yet by keeping it basic, I seem to be fairly well understood by the chicas.
I go to Tijuana to fuck on the cheap, not to engage in meaningful conversations with prostitutes.
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