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Drove down with wingman Monday. Weather was sunny, dry and warm. Like other Mondays, HK was slow on Memorial night, estimated 25% guys and girls in the club compared to weekends. Wingmen said Sunday OTOH was packed with hot girls.
But there were quite a few hot girls started working in the afternoon. My favorite spinner stripper from Michoacan was in but was held in Chavelas until 8. Frieda with her eyeglasses were in. She still has her tight, slim natural body with the innocent looks of a nun hehe. Quite a few other hotties whom I would bag.
I had arranged to meet with an English-speaking ex HK girl, probably the nicest and sweetest girl in Tijuana. She showed up on time with her HK friend, met me in front of HK, beautiful even in street clothes with no make up, got in Cascada with no problem. We were kissing and groping in the elevator and I got a raging hard on for her. Took a shower with her with my dick pointed up to the sky hehe. Had a long, loving, sexy session with her, GFE but she insisted on a condom. I got exhausted after a long session with her. This beautiful girl posed for a lot of sexy pics with and without clothes, wanted to meet again soon so I can take model-quality pics with a better camera.
6 of us were sitting at the tables in front of the TV, drinking, flirting, having fun with girls. We went out for dinner at Mr. Pampas and returned to the same table, drinking, groping girls. It was fun seeing a few bros from out of state after a few years. I thought of calling you to meet my wingmen, but I was sleepy after a big meal and already drank too much. I was fumbling with my phone but could not find your number. Lo siento.
A short spinner with fake blonde hair quoted Jet Li $180 for half hour, so he passed. Some started at $200, but business was slow and most would go for $100-120. Chef bagged 3 girls, a hot one was upselling nonstop in the room, turned him off. Papaya took 8 girls upstairs. Girls know he's soft and sweet, would sidle up to him and act like sweet, silly little girls. He would buy them ridiculous $30 vinitos, and when they asked, take them upstairs, eat them out until they climax and squirt. He loves to give them pleasure and pay them big money. He's always munching on pussies so his new call sign is "El Chivo. " We have been trying to stop him from spoiling the girls.
Obi-wan bagged 3 girls, one an ex HK flame who quit HK for a flight attendant job, but quickly came back to make some real money. His 3rd girl of the night was a hottie, but he said only $35 left, take it or leave it. She took the offer and went to the room. For his great contribution to Mexico's inflation fight, AMLO should come to Tijuana and personally pin Mexico's Presidential Medal of Honor on his chest.
Had a very sexy and satisfying session with a hot girl and lots of fun hanging with wingmen. Girls are texting me to meet up this weekend.Nice report Cap!
That thumbnail got me motivated to hit up Tijuana next week. I haven't felt up on a piece of ass in so long.
Explorer8939
05-31-24, 02:41
I flew over from Thailand, and am visiting the Hong Kong bar.
The ladies look nice, but most are too fleshy for my taste. I just don't get excited by the 10 - 20 extra kilograms the ladies carry around, compared to Thai ladies.
Daytonamonger
05-31-24, 13:27
I flew over from Thailand, and am visiting the Hong Kong bar.
The ladies look nice, but most are too fleshy for my taste. I just don't get excited by the 10 - 20 extra kilograms the ladies carry around, compared to Thai ladies.The women are built differently sure. There is fun to be had tho. I've been flying over to Tijuana from Vegas the last few months as a substitute for my trips to Thailand since I wasn't able to secure enough time off for a Thailand trip until summer started. 3 more days of work and I'm Thailand bound.
The women are built differently sure. There is fun to be had tho. I've been flying over to Tijuana from Vegas the last few months as a substitute for my trips to Thailand since I wasn't able to secure enough time off for a Thailand trip until summer started. 3 more days of work and I'm Thailand bound.Looks like you work the same routine as me haha. Get in a trip to Tijuana here and there until you can make it back to SEA.
I flew over from Thailand, and am visiting the Hong Kong bar.
The ladies look nice, but most are too fleshy for my taste. I just don't get excited by the 10 - 20 extra kilograms the ladies carry around, compared to Thai ladies.There are guys who want those beefy women, and only those. Some are into big chichis, others want jiggly nalgas, others like me want the morenas with bony asses and sexy feet. Yes I know, we men are ridiculous but it is what it is.
Drove down with wingman Monday. Weather was sunny, dry and warm. Like other Mondays, HK was slow on Memorial night, estimated 25% guys and girls in the club compared to weekends. Wingmen said Sunday OTOH was packed with hot girls.
But there were quite a few hot girls started working in the afternoon. My favorite spinner stripper from Michoacan was in but was held in Chavelas until 8. Frieda with her eyeglasses were in. She still has her tight, slim natural body with the innocent looks of a nun hehe. Quite a few other hotties whom I would bag.
I had arranged to meet with an English-speaking ex HK girl, probably the nicest and sweetest girl in Tijuana. She showed up on time with her HK friend, met me in front of HK, beautiful even in street clothes with no make up, got in Cascada with no problem. We were kissing and groping in the elevator and I got a raging hard on for her. Took a shower with her with my dick pointed up to the sky hehe. Had a long, loving, sexy session with her, GFE but she insisted on a condom. I got exhausted after a long session with her. This beautiful girl posed for a lot of sexy pics with and without clothes, wanted to meet again soon so I can take model-quality pics with a better camera.
6 of us were sitting at the tables in front of the TV, drinking, flirting, having fun with girls. We went out for dinner at Mr. Pampas and returned to the same table, drinking, groping girls. It was fun seeing a few bros from out of state after a few years. I thought of calling you to meet my wingmen, but I was sleepy after a big meal and already drank too much. I was fumbling with my phone but could not find your number. Lo siento.
A short spinner with fake blonde hair quoted Jet Li $180 for half hour, so he passed. Some started at $200, but business was slow and most would go for $100-120. Chef bagged 3 girls, a hot one was upselling nonstop in the room, turned him off. Papaya took 8 girls upstairs. Girls know he's soft and sweet, would sidle up to him and act like sweet, silly little girls. He would buy them ridiculous $30 vinitos, and when they asked, take them upstairs, eat them out until they climax and squirt. He loves to give them pleasure and pay them big money. He's always munching on pussies so his new call sign is "El Chivo. " We have been trying to stop him from spoiling the girls.
Obi-wan bagged 3 girls, one an ex HK flame who quit HK for a flight attendant job, but quickly came back to make some real money. His 3rd girl of the night was a hottie, but he said only $35 left, take it or leave it. She took the offer and went to the room. For his great contribution to Mexico's inflation fight, AMLO should come to Tijuana and personally pin Mexico's Presidential Medal of Honor on his chest.
Had a very sexy and satisfying session with a hot girl and lots of fun hanging with wingmen. Girls are texting me to meet up this weekend.
Life is so good and sexy, or what?You must like them older? The woman in the pick looks past her prime.
BrotherMouzone
06-02-24, 15:32
Do all HK chicas do arriba? Asking because for the past couple of years I've noticed a particular chica who seems to only dance on the stage without really interacting with the customers (other than collecting her tips). After dancing she then sort of hangs out on the side, mostly on the phone until it's her time to dance again. Full-headed, curly-haired, physically fit, beautiful girl, though a little bit thicker than most HK chicas. Mentioned the full, curly hair first as that's kind of what stands out most about her (at least for me). She seems to pretty much always dance on one of the front stages at HK (meaning the stages you see when you immediately enter the main entrance), rarely if ever anywhere else in the club. Again, don't think I've ever seen her engage in a prolonged conversation or sit down with any dudes, she seems to mainly hang out on the side on the phone or talk with other chicas until it's her time to dance again. It's not like I'm sitting there watching her like a hawk so I could be way off-base, but at least that's what I've noticed when I've seen her over the past 2-3 years. I think she only works late nights (after 9 or 10) and maybe mostly on weekends though she works very regularly.
But the specifics about her aside, I guess my more general question is are there chicas who work at HK without the expectation of doing arriba, or even selling drinks to customers? I've honestly never seen her do either though again, it's not like I'm sitting there watching her like that LOL.
LuvMexicanas
06-02-24, 18:27
Do all HK chicas do arriba? Asking because for the past couple of years I've noticed a particular chica who seems to only dance on the stage without really interacting with the customers (other than collecting her tips). After dancing she then sort of hangs out on the side, mostly on the phone until it's her time to dance again. Full-headed, curly-haired, physically fit, beautiful girl, though a little bit thicker than most HK chicas. Mentioned the full, curly hair first as that's kind of what stands out most about her (at least for me). She seems to pretty much always dance on one of the front stages at HK (meaning the stages you see when you immediately enter the main entrance), rarely if ever anywhere else in the club. Again, don't think I've ever seen her engage in a prolonged conversation or sit down with any dudes, she seems to mainly hang out on the side on the phone or talk with other chicas until it's her time to dance again. It's not like I'm sitting there watching her like a hawk so I could be way off-base, but at least that's what I've noticed when I've seen her over the past 2-3 years. I think she only works late nights (after 9 or 10) and maybe mostly on weekends though she works very regularly.
But the specifics about her aside, I guess my more general question is are there chicas who work at HK without the expectation of doing arriba, or even selling drinks to customers? I've honestly never seen her do either though again, it's not like I'm sitting there watching her like that LOL.There's a famous line from the baseball movie "Long Gone" which is "All girls fuck" just maybe not you, me or the guy next to us.
Do all HK chicas do arriba? Asking because for the past couple of years I've noticed a particular chica who seems to only dance on the stage without really interacting with the customers (other than collecting her tips). After dancing she then sort of hangs out on the side, mostly on the phone until it's her time to dance again. Full-headed, curly-haired, physically fit, beautiful girl, though a little bit thicker than most HK chicas. Mentioned the full, curly hair first as that's kind of what stands out most about her (at least for me). She seems to pretty much always dance on one of the front stages at HK (meaning the stages you see when you immediately enter the main entrance), rarely if ever anywhere else in the club. Again, don't think I've ever seen her engage in a prolonged conversation or sit down with any dudes, she seems to mainly hang out on the side on the phone or talk with other chicas until it's her time to dance again. It's not like I'm sitting there watching her like a hawk so I could be way off-base, but at least that's what I've noticed when I've seen her over the past 2-3 years. I think she only works late nights (after 9 or 10) and maybe mostly on weekends though she works very regularly.
But the specifics about her aside, I guess my more general question is are there chicas who work at HK without the expectation of doing arriba, or even selling drinks to customers? I've honestly never seen her do either though again, it's not like I'm sitting there watching her like that LOL.Possible for varied reasons. She may be on her period. It may be close to the end of her shift. She may be waiting for her regular John. She may be hurting down there. Some new girls are allowed to hung out to check it out. Yes I met few who told me they won't arriba.
https://youtu.be/CvVyB1F8BUY?si=--xO1ex8R61LJ4nu
For those of you boomers or technically impaired and don't speak Spanish, just use the YouTube translator built in for English and it will auto translate for ya.
She has been there for a year and gives some insight to the general workings in the club and the hold the line mentality. About half are general knowledge to us mongers but still learned a few things.
Decided to bite the bullet and take my first sex vacation in Tijuana. Sex vacation, staying overnight in Tijuana- stayed 2 nights.
Was in SD for work. Told my boss I am sick and decided to cross the border.
Plan was to use my cell phone hotspot and then use VPN on my company laptop. NO issues.
Cross Wednesday evening.
Stayed in Rizzo. Got the VIP card. Rizzo rooms are small. 7th floor atleast the view was good.
Was sitting in tropical on first night. Came across this 28 year old spinner MILF sits across from me and starts kissing me. Quotes 80 take her up fuck her like a pro. Best 80 dollar I spent. Ate mexican food at taco restaurant next door. Slept like a pro. Had my boner pill before the first act.
Next morning boner pill was still working (tadalafil 20 MG. Fun fact bought it from a Mexican lady at a pharmacy who was like I know why you need).
730 am tropical is dead but HK is still running a hot babe with soft boobs late 20's milfy vibes. Corners me. She is hot, I have a boner, why not. Suck her tits like a pro. Bang her in two positions but complete. 100 dollars done.
Then went to a Mexican restaurant for breakfast. Picked some souvenirs. Then a 20 year old with big soft boobs sits next to me. I buy her a couple of drinks feel her tits. Amazing. Ask her for Arrriba. She quotes a 120 I say 100 she says yes. I take her to the room bang her brains out. Suck her soft tits which taste like cotton candy. She maybe had some milk in her tits. She was white like snowwhite and I was a dwarf in candy land.
Anyway after I was done. Had to take a call. Then after calls, went to Tijuana again, saw a cute girl which spoke good english. Had taken another boner pill before the 20 year old, johnny was ready since 130 was quoted, I said 120, banged her good.
Then went to dinner at brazillian steak house. 30 dollars all you can eat meat.
Then after that tried to fuck a spinner type with small be cups. Dick did not work very well. 120 bucks down the drain.
In the morning took the boner pill. Had one pm checkout. 8 in a morning a tall brown skin girl with bazooka natural tits was eyeing me, I am like lets go. 120 was quoted, deal stuck at 100, sucked tits banged her. And then had birria tacos for breakfast with consume on a taco stand where Tijuana masero eat. Best tacos of my life.
Then set down for another hunt a dark skin early 20's chicks sits next to me, get my boner running. Its noon. One more hour, one more fuck carpe diem veni vedi veci all of that later, my room had 4 condoms 20 towels and a dank smell of semen. We left happy. No incident back home.
My 48 hours fornicating in Tijuana.
740 dollars for 7 fucks for all types of variety. Best ppf (price per fuck) on my life.Maybe I am missing something but I never understood why some of you guys need the boner pills. Isn't it not suppose to be mixed with alcohol too?
Does the boner pill make you be able to fuck more times more often and produce more semen?
I'm in my 30's and without the boner pill, I can probably have a nice fuck session every 3-4 hours because I need time to recover.
Does the boner pills help with refractory recover time too?
If the boner pill can help with a bigger stronger erection and more orgasms, then I will gladly use it!
Let me know because like I said, I'm not familiar with it and everything I've researched says don't mix with alcohol and that it doesn't help with more orgasms but you know how these medical websites can be.
BrotherMouzone
06-03-24, 07:17
There's a famous line from the baseball movie "Long Gone" which is "All girls fuck" just maybe not you, me or the guy next to us.LOL, fair enough. I'll say that I've never personally tried to approach her myself, just something I've noticed (for a few years now) from a distance. She'll dance on the stage, come down and mostly stay off to the side on her phone or talking to the other chicas until it's her turn to dance again. But again it's not like I'm sitting there watching her all night and I'm only in Tijuana a couple times or so a year anyway.
Explorer8939
06-03-24, 15:30
There are "drinks only" bargirls at Hong Kong. Some have boyfriends, so they don't go to the room.
LuvMexicanas
06-03-24, 18:37
There are "drinks only" bargirls at Hong Kong. Some have boyfriends, so they don't go to the room.All girls fuck. Don't go to the room might be true in a general sense, but when presented with the right guy, right offer all bets are off.
There are "drinks only" bargirls at Hong Kong. Some have boyfriends, so they don't go to the room.If there are, it's an extreme rarity. In all my years of going there, I have never encountered a girl who wouldn't go to the room.
Maybe if you catch a girl having a bad day. But if the mood is right, (and the price is right), I guarantee most all of them will go to the room.
Of course some of them have boyfriends, but that never stopped anybody, LOL. Women like casual sex as much as men do. They just need to feel they are getting something else in return for it.
Possible for varied reasons. She may be on her period. It may be close to the end of her shift. She may be waiting for her regular John. She may be hurting down there. Some new girls are allowed to hung out to check it out. Yes I met few who told me they won't arriba.I know a hk girl who works that front stage too, she's been in hk years, a Tijuana local. She's a nice girl says Hello, to me maybe 60 times. I've probably ly bought her a drink twice. She doesn't ask me for sex, I do tip her a dollar evwrytime I see her dancing. Basically from what she's told me is, I believe at one point she wasn't trying to fuxk because of a boyfriend, and even then without a boyfriend she doesn't go searching g for guys. Just by my obersvation. But she did tell me she does fuxk guys. So I got the impression, even by not trying, she's gona get laid 7 to 10 times a week, at work, and that's plenty of $$ for her along with the probably 200 a night she gets in tips even if she has to tip staff 50 a night. You gota remember I have another friend in Tijuana almost as attractive a waitress making after tips, 3 dollars an hour doing 60 HR weeks.
If there are, it's an extreme rarity. In all my years of going there, I have never encountered a girl who wouldn't go to the room.
Maybe if you catch a girl having a bad day. But if the mood is right, (and the price is right), I guarantee most all of them will go to the room.
Of course some of them have boyfriends, but that never stopped anybody, LOL. Women like casual sex as much as men do. They just need to feel they are getting something else in return for it.Then you are talking to ugly girls. I've had at least 2 or 3 straight out deny me before I even ask them for a price or even more than just a Hello,. The ones that did that were like in the top 5 of beauty that night. (I'm talking beautiful porcelain skin with colored eyes and no baby marks either. To me, theres nothing better than a mexican white girl because they have the fiery sex passion of a Latina with the white girl beauty).
Then you are talking to ugly girls. I've had at least 2 or 3 straight out deny me before I even ask them for a price or even more than just a Hello,. The ones that did that were like in the top 5 of beauty that night. (I'm talking beautiful porcelain skin with colored eyes and no baby marks either. To me, theres nothing better than a mexican white girl because they have the fiery sex passion of a Latina with the white girl beauty).I don't know if they are "ugly" but I do have a nose for avoiding the frigid ones. I tend to look for a girl that shows some kind of warmth or personality. I rarely approach the ones that stand around pouting all night. I also look at how they interact with other guys. This is very important. Also, I look for the ones who show some interest in me before I make my approach: eye contact, their general vibe, etc. I don't tend to approach girls that show no interest in me.
The thing is, girls who won't go to the room aren't going to last there long. Guys will be upset if they buy a girl drinks and then get shot down.
https://youtu.be/CvVyB1F8BUY?si=--xO1ex8R61LJ4nu
For those of you boomers or technically impaired and don't speak Spanish, just use the YouTube translator built in for English and it will auto translate for ya.
She has been there for a year and gives some insight to the general workings in the club and the hold the line mentality. About half are general knowledge to us mongers but still learned a few things.I took this girl to the room a couple of times a few months back. First time was good, second just blah. She's a nice girl and seems down to earth, but she's a little bit on the "business" side of things and there just wasn't as much sexual chemistry as I like, so I decided not to go with her again. She seems to have quite a following on Tiktok. I'm not sure a what point one can be considered to be "famous" nowadays, but she's certainly approaching it. Maybe now I can say I banged a famous chick, ha ha.
Captain Solo
06-04-24, 19:20
Sunday night HK was pretty light, about half as crowded as weekend, talents started to come in after 8 PM, a few tall, lanky, beautiful girls, good enough for international models shows.
I sat with a couple girls, bought them beers to drink with pizza. The 2 girls were hungry, they finished off the whole pizza plus chips ect. Alejandra is tall, slim, long legs, wearing glasses, pretty face but her breath was pretty bad. She was born and raised in Tijuana and is open to go on vacation, I felt her up, natural tits, but her thighs and tummy were tight and hard like a body builder. She started with $130 but agreed on $100. She did not have the sexy charms I wanted, so Told her I would look her up later.
Erica was a new, beautiful spinner in a bright yellow fishnet body dress, dancing on the bar. Everyone thought she was very attractive. Empire Trooper swore off HK girls, but found her attractive enough for a few $ propina. R2 D2's girlfriend gestured to her and suggested I take her. Invited her for a drink. She said 18 YO, born and raised in Tijuana, first day in HK. She was nice, clean beautiful from head to toe. I checked out her assets, all natural with perky A boobs, nice, dry, smooth skin. She agreed to go on a Cancun vacation with me, but did not have her own phone, gave me her sister's instead and promised to respond. I asked her about the cama but she said, drinks and dance only, no sex. WTF would I be doing with her on a Cancun vacation without sex? She went back dancing on the bar. Lots of guys were stuffing propinas into her dress while other dancers hardly got any. A chunky stripper got a good rain from the balcony but it may have been a set up. The crowd has gone pretty cheap recently.
The. Is medium height and weight with a slinky body in a frilly dress, light skin, long, straight blazing blond hair, classic pretty face with a ready pleasant smile. She looked very sweet, beautiful and appealing. Girls were not allowed to sit at tables in HK, so she was standing a long time near the steps, watching the strip show, smiling sweetly, also walked around the club a bit, but no one talked to her or bought her a drink. I told my wingmen to invite her over but nobody moved.
After 9 I found the. Sitting at the bar in Chavelas, checking on her phone. She was resting her feet before going home. I invited her over for a drink. She ordered a cerveza with a salted-rim glass. Looking up close, her face was movie-star pretty but with a few pimples, not baby smooth, still very pretty and sexy. Her body was just right, skin soft and smooth all over, legs long, shapely, thighs creamy soft. Tried to kiss but she refused. Gave her a propina into her boobs, found a pair of perfect natural conical boobs with tiny pink nips, guessing she's mid to late 20's. I was struck how beautiful she was but nobody bought her a drink all night. Guys were picking up mostly chunky, crude, ugly girls. WTF is wrong with their beauty tastes?
She talked and acted with good manners like a classy woman. Using the Translate App, said from Guadalajara, works every day in the early shift, goes home at 10, flashing her pretty smiles occasionally. She would welcome a visit to her hometown Guadalajara and show me around. She started with $160 for the bed, then said, will go down to $130 if I bought her 2 drinks. I told her I had only $100 left and complained about Cascada's high $40ST room. She agreed rooms are too expensive. I was really smitten with this beautiful girl and would pay her full rate, but I was just dragging the process out to enjoy her beauty. She eventually dropped to $110, then $100 and agreed to go. Apparently she wanted to go home to her 1 YO baby before bedtime.
Paid $40 to Cascada for 45-minute ST room, included a pink mixed drink for her. She sat on the bed, insisted on money first. She can switch from her pretty, seductive smile to a stern mother superior's face very quickly. She took off her clothes, one of the most beautiful girls I ever had my eyes and hands on, seriously beautiful from head to toe. She refused to kiss. I hungrily sucked on her beautiful boobs and tiny pink nips. Her body and her crotch smelled good all over. She was moaning softly, guided my hand to the right spot on her clit and pressed it in hard. Her body went limb. The harder I sucked and rubbed, the harder she was moaning and bucking her crotch, just an incredibly attractive and sexy girl.
Her pussy was snug, with a sphincter that I had to ram through with each thrust. She seemed to just loves to be sucked everywhere and fucked hard, incredibly sexy. She was doing CG, stooped down to put her tits in my mouth for more sucking, but sucking was difficult with my dick pumping her pussy at the same time. Switched to a very long mish session with her. The harder I plunged through her pussy's sphincter, the harder she was squirming, moaning loudly, expressing her sexy pleasure. Got exhausted at the end. She said she was also tired.
I took a couple pics of her incredibly beautiful body while she was in the shower, but she was very stern, insisted on checking the phone and even deleted the recycle bin. She's one of the very few HK girls I would repeat with. Will work out a deal for a vacation in her hometown. A wingman paid an ex HK girl only $300 for a 4-day vacation in Cabo. She came back declaring she got pregnant. That may have been a factor for the low rate. Going to Guadalajara soon. Would be very nice to be shown around by a very beautiful local girl.
Then you are talking to ugly girls. I've had at least 2 or 3 straight out deny me before I even ask them for a price or even more than just a Hello,. The ones that did that were like in the top 5 of beauty that night. (I'm talking beautiful porcelain skin with colored eyes and no baby marks either. To me, theres nothing better than a mexican white girl because they have the fiery sex passion of a Latina with the white girl beauty).In my long years of general relationships and mongering, one thing stood out. If you have a hottie, 98% chances are they are a starfish. I know this is anecdotal, but I divorced one. I can imagine them having their pick of the guy and they think it's an honor for us to get that pussy.
I tend to like the girl next door type who doesn't know they are pretty without the outlandish makeups. They tend to be a bit shy which I love. Because when they finally get to know you, they are almost always freaks in the sheets.
GeorgeCarta22
06-05-24, 06:16
Planning a trip here and deciding if I should do earlier in the week like Sunday to Tuesday vs wed to Saturday morning. I do like the clubs not overly packed but if the talent drop off is huge then ill bite and do closer to the weekend. Anyone have any input?
Nice post, Captain Solo. I always get a kick out of reading your reports LOL.
I don't know if they are "ugly" but I do have a nose for avoiding the frigid ones. I tend to look for a girl that shows some kind of warmth or personality. I rarely approach the ones that stand around pouting all night. I also look at how they interact with other guys. This is very important. Also, I look for the ones who show some interest in me before I make my approach: eye contact, their general vibe, etc. I don't tend to approach girls that show no interest in me.While I get where you're coming from, this can really go either way. I have met girls who are seemingly fun and up for a good time in the club and once you get them in the room they turn into somebody else. Hasn't happened often, but it does happen. I have also experienced the opposite, when a girl seems a little more shy or on the reserved side and for whatever reason I take them arriba and all of a sudden they come out of their shells and surprise you with amazing service.
Planning a trip here and deciding if I should do earlier in the week like Sunday to Tuesday vs wed to Saturday morning. I do like the clubs not overly packed but if the talent drop off is huge then ill bite and do closer to the weekend. Anyone have any input?Even weekends can be hit or miss in terms of talent, so if you prefer it a little less crowded try Sunday to Tuesday. You should be able to find girls to your liking any day of the week. Try to sneak in some run throughs of Chicago and Tropical as well, don't limit yourself to HK.
Maybe I am missing something but I never understood why some of you guys need the boner pills. .......You are in your 30's, get back to us in 2044.
While I get where you're coming from, this can really go either way. I have met girls who are seemingly fun and up for a good time in the club and once you get them in the room they turn into somebody else. Hasn't happened often, but it does happen. I have also experienced the opposite, when a girl seems a little more shy or on the reserved side and for whatever reason I take them arriba and all of a sudden they come out of their shells and surprise you with amazing service.
I agree 100%. Though I think I was trying to explain why I never encounter girls who don't go to the room, not how to get good service once you get there. There is no sure-fire predictor for that, though I think the things I look for increase the odds. It's always hit and miss, as you mentioned.
I think, over the years, I have developed some strange, possibly unfounded, superstitions. I wonder if this happens to all mongers. One of mine is that there is a correlation between how much a girl wears in the club, and how restrictive they are going to be in the room. Some of these girls are just wearing too many accessories, and I'm thinking to myself, "It's going to take her 10 minutes just to take all shit off. " And maybe that's the idea. A sort of time wasting tactic. For me, just a simple bikini and high heels will do.
I wonder if any of you guys feel the same way. Or if you have other interesting "superstitions. ".
I agree 100%. Though I think I was trying to explain why I never encounter girls who don't go to the room, not how to get good service once you get there. There is no sure-fire predictor for that, though I think the things I look for increase the odds. It's always hit and miss, as you mentioned.
I think, over the years, I have developed some strange, possibly unfounded, superstitions. I wonder if this happens to all mongers.....
I wonder if any of you guys feel the same way. Or if you have other interesting "superstitions. ".I agree that new gals are always hit or miss. And have not found a great way of predicting my satisfaction with new gals.
So my solution will appear very boring to you guys. I stick to the same gal almost all the time. If she is in town when I visited Tijuana then I only have sessions with her.
We have some routines like dancing, massage of my face with her butt and a portfolio of moves. So everything goes flawlessly with zero issues and I never get bored even when I have three one hour sessions with her. I am always satisfied.
So I deal with the uncertainty of new gals. By avoiding them.
Maybe I am missing something but I never understood why some of you guys need the boner pills. Isn't it not suppose to be mixed with alcohol too?
Does the boner pill make you be able to fuck more times more often and produce more semen?
I'm in my 30's and without the boner pill, I can probably have a nice fuck session every 3-4 hours because I need time to recover.
Does the boner pills help with refractory recover time too?
If the boner pill can help with a bigger stronger erection and more orgasms, then I will gladly use it!
Let me know because like I said, I'm not familiar with it and everything I've researched says don't mix with alcohol and that it doesn't help with more orgasms but you know how these medical websites can be.About 15 years ago I had my first trip to Medellin Colombia and I met one MDE veteran who took me under his wing (I'm Mexican and a Tijuana local so I would translate for him, it was a simbiotic relationship), the first thing he said to me was to buy the blue pill, I was also in my 30's and told him that I didn't need it, then he asked me, what is the most expensive thing that you're going to buy doring this trip?
Back then Colombia was a lot cheaper than Tijuana, but still I said that "girls" was the most expensive thing I would spend my money on. The answered "no" most expensive part of your trip is your time, time you're taking of from work, you're spending vacation days in this trip instead of spending it at a more tourist and interesting part of the world.
Then he told me that I needed viagra because it would help me to keep up with all the girls available for me to f*ck, and he was right, you stop doing girls not because you run out of money, in reality you run out of sexual stamina, and since you're just visiting for a week or two you better make the best out of that time.
To make this message short, you need the blue pill if you don't have time, it will help it will give you a boner faster every time you have a session, you won't produce more semen, but you can have more orgasms in a shorter period of time.
Monday dealt with a regular girl, psy dry and boring session. HK and Zona devoid of action.
Tuesday drunk too much, tend to lose memory when I do. Did take a girl up from the evidence I saw in the morning, with condoms on the floor. No memory who she was, how we got to the room or what we did. No other items missing except $120 I apparently paid her.
Wed, attractive chicas in HK, left and right. Refuse to touch alcohol. Stayed until 10 PM and slept.
Overall, less than ideal trip wasted mostly due to too much drinking and Mon and Tuesday no attractive women in the zona.
Aviator400
06-07-24, 05:46
I agree that new gals are always hit or miss. And have not found a great way of predicting my satisfaction with new gals.
So my solution will appear very boring to you guys. I stick to the same gal almost all the time. If she is in town when I visited Tijuana then I only have sessions with her.
We have some routines like dancing, massage of my face with her butt and a portfolio of moves. So everything goes flawlessly with zero issues and I never get bored even when I have three one hour sessions with her. I am always satisfied.
So I deal with the uncertainty of new gals. By avoiding them.I am right there with you. I do a little hunting, but I have two ATFs that always satisfy me. And they are just plain fun people to be with.
Been seeing one for five years and the other for seven. I usually do about 10 different girls a year, but I am with my ATFs about 10 times each a year as well. The ATFs I do TLN.
I've just found out about HK Tijuana and I think I am going to take a trip down there towards the end of the month. I am going to go back and read the last few months of the message board, but if anyone could just give me a quick rundown of pricing I can expect. I have experience in Europe and South America and seen prices vary from $250 to $25 (Hello, Quito, Ecuador LOL). Any info is appreciated. I'm also open to any tips / recommendations / thoughts. Stay safe out there.
I agree 100%. Though I think I was trying to explain why I never encounter girls who don't go to the room, not how to get good service once you get there. There is no sure-fire predictor for that, though I think the things I look for increase the odds. It's always hit and miss, as you mentioned.
I think, over the years, I have developed some strange, possibly unfounded, superstitions. I wonder if this happens to all mongers. One of mine is that there is a correlation between how much a girl wears in the club, and how restrictive they are going to be in the room. Some of these girls are just wearing too many accessories, and I'm thinking to myself, "It's going to take her 10 minutes just to take all shit off. " And maybe that's the idea. A sort of time wasting tactic. For me, just a simple bikini and high heels will do.
I wonder if any of you guys feel the same way. Or if you have other interesting "superstitions. ".Funny, I have never made a correlation in regards to whatever a girl is wearing at the bar. She could be in a micro bikini or a full length body dress and all I focus on is her attitude and body language. Whatever she's wearing is irrelevant. That's just me though, maybe your method works for you. Stick to it if you find success that way.
One thing my buddies and I do agree on is that if a girl is wearing sunglasses in the club or even just has some resting on top of her head, stay away. These chicks tend to be hustlers and scammers from our experiences.
DramaFree11
06-09-24, 18:05
I prefer the Asian body type. Did Tijuana last year and they are a bit larger with more silicone then their Thai counterparts. I was in Indonesia a few weeks ago and the girls there have the extra weight in all the right places. A lot of them have large natural boobs, which I love. In Tijuana the best I found was a freelancer I hit up one day on the way back from the gym. Wish I had found her earlier in my trip and I would have paid her to stay with me. She was perfect. Young, nice boobs, smaller butt. My mouth is watering just thinking about her. In HK I had a tough time finding natural boobs, I HATE silicone. I did have a fun trip overall but my vote goes to Thailand, Phils, and Indo. I am working to plan another trip to Tijuana, just because it is so close. I hate the 20+ hours to Asia.
Also, EVERYTHING tends to be covered in Tijuana which I am not as fond of. You may find one here and there who will do BBBJ or BBFS but in Asia BBBJ is standard and BBFS more common.
As you said, to each their own.No, comparison for me. Latin's blow away Asian chicks. Latin girls are super sexy, fun, honest,(for the most part), and great in bed.
Honesty I do not find Asia girls attractive at all, I am sure when you are in there native country they act differently than American Asian's. Most of my experience was in Houston, I was not impressed. They were all about money even more than American girls.
ABAJoeSmith123
06-11-24, 18:03
After 5 years of being a human rag doll at HK and being penetrated by probably thousands of men, one of the hottest chicas in HK tells me she's finally leaving because her kids (now teenagers) found out what she does for a living and she can't keep doing this job now that they know. Says she's going to go back home and try to sell clothes in a store, kind of like an outdoor touristy souvenior small clothing store you see in touristy areas that sell magnets and souvenior shirts.
Good decision for her overall wellbeing but honestly, I wonder how long it will last. Hard to go from bringing in a few thousand dollars a week to suddenly maybe $40 per week.
Or, she found a client sucker that is now funneling her money on the side.
I hope it works out either way. Her body is still smoking hot despite all the mileage and molestation.
BrotherMouzone
06-12-24, 19:06
After 5 years of being a human rag doll at HK and being penetrated by probably thousands of men, one of the hottest chicas in HK tells me she's finally leaving because her kids (now teenagers) found out what she does for a living and she can't keep doing this job now that they know. Says she's going to go back home and try to sell clothes in a store, kind of like an outdoor touristy souvenior small clothing store you see in touristy areas that sell magnets and souvenior shirts.
Good decision for her overall wellbeing but honestly, I wonder how long it will last. Hard to go from bringing in a few thousand dollars a week to suddenly maybe $40 per week.
Yeah, I actually feel bad for a lot of the women who have to hide their lifestyle in that regard. One of my regular HK chicas lives on the outskirts of Tijuana with her mom and teenaged daughter and they (at least per what she tells me) have no clue that she works at HK. She tells them something to the effect of she works as a waitress in a nightclub. She's from Sonora, nicest woman in the world, educated, speaks very good English, but she tells me her mom would "die" if she ever found out what she did for a living. It's got to be tough concealing stuff like that, especially for someone as sweethearted as she is.
Somewhat related, I'm friends with an ex-Spearmint Rhino stripper (Spearmint Rhino is a prominent strip club in Las Vegas). She raised her kid in Vegas, hiding from him the whole time the fact that she worked at a strip club 4-5 nights a week (she told him she was a cocktail waitress at one of the facncier offstrip casinos). But she's doing well as a real estate agent now, married to some multi-millionaire and was able to put her kid through college with the stripper $$$ even before hooking up with the millionaire husband. It was impressive because she came to this country from Argentina in her 20's as an illegal immigrant, with no $$$ to her name and not being able to speak a lick of English.
Yeah, I actually feel bad for a lot of the women who have to hide their lifestyle in that regard. One of my regular HK chicas lives on the outskirts of Tijuana with her mom and teenaged daughter and they (at least per what she tells me) have no clue that she works at HK. She tells them something to the effect of she works as a waitress in a nightclub. She's from Sonora, nicest woman in the world, educated, speaks very good English, but she tells me her mom would "die" if she ever found out what she did for a living. It's got to be tough concealing stuff like that, especially for someone as sweethearted as she is.
Somewhat related, I'm friends with an ex-Spearmint Rhino stripper (Spearmint Rhino is a prominent strip club in Las Vegas). She raised her kid in Vegas, hiding from him the whole time the fact that she worked at a strip club 4-5 nights a week (she told him she was a cocktail waitress at one of the facncier offstrip casinos). But she's doing well as a real estate agent now, married to some multi-millionaire and was able to put her kid through college with the stripper $$$ even before hooking up with the millionaire husband. It was impressive because she came to this country from Argentina in her 20's as an illegal immigrant, with no $$$ to her name and not being able to speak a lick of English.Usually I take what the girls tell me at its face value and go with it but I always harbor a significant reservation that most or even all of it is untrue.
Usually I take what the girls tell me at its face value and go with it but I always harbor a significant reservation that most or even all of it is untrue.LOL. There are two rules for dealing with these women.
1) Don't believe anything they tell you.
2) See rule 1.
LuvMexicanas
06-13-24, 05:30
LOL. There are two rules for dealing with these women.
1) Don't believe anything they tell you.
2) See rule 1.Read this post and live by it because it will save you time, money and mental energy. A classic lie is a chica saying it's her birthday. Every day is a birthday for them.
I've just found out about HK Tijuana and I think I am going to take a trip down there towards the end of the month. I am going to go back and read the last few months of the message board, but if anyone could just give me a quick rundown of pricing I can expect. I have experience in Europe and South America and seen prices vary from $250 to $25 (Hello, Quito, Ecuador LOL). Any info is appreciated. I'm also open to any tips / recommendations / thoughts. Stay safe out there.
Depends on whether you want a bar girl or one from the street. SG's will run you about $30 on average. $7-10 for ST room.
A bar girl from Hong Kong or Chicago should only cost about $100-120. Some will try to quote $150, possibly more. Stick to the 100-120 range. You could haggle for as low as $80 but it's not going to be easy. With HK girls If you don't have your own hotel room at Cascadas or Rizo de Oro, a 30 minute room is $40. If you have your own room the girl can stay with you up to 1 hour but are only obligated to stay 30 minutes. It really just depends on how much of a clock watcher they are. When I have my own room girls will typically stay 45-60 minutes at no extra charge. If you want to definitely lock her in for the full hour, you might have to pay her more.
At Chicago 30 minute rooms are $20.
AmericanPi
06-13-24, 14:39
After 5 years of being a human rag doll at HK and being penetrated by probably thousands of men, one of the hottest chicas in HK tells me she's finally leaving because her kids (now teenagers) found out what she does for a living and she can't keep doing this job now that they know. Says she's going to go back home and try to sell clothes in a store, kind of like an outdoor touristy souvenior small clothing store you see in touristy areas that sell magnets and souvenior shirts.
Good decision for her overall wellbeing but honestly, I wonder how long it will last. Hard to go from bringing in a few thousand dollars a week to suddenly maybe $40 per week.
Or, she found a client sucker that is now funneling her money on the side.
I hope it works out either way. Her body is still smoking hot despite all the mileage and molestation.No way she stays away. Zero. She may not go back to the club, but she's not working for 1000 pesos a day either. She'll find a way to sell her body somewhere, somehow. It might not be day 1. It might be when mom needs cash for a surgery. Or junior needs school clothes. But it's destiny.
It's sad and you should all count your lucky stars you won the birth lottery being born in a rich country.
LOL. There are two rules for dealing with these women.
1) Don't believe anything they tell you.
2) See rule 1.Usually I let whatever they tell me stand and never challenge them unless they piss me off. However I never act or change my course by what they tell me because unless something is verified it is a lie.
E. g, this girl I met in a bar in rivo had a night out of sex with me and told me all types of stories of her status and her family. The next round a Month later her attitude was changed, I imagined she was exploring how to approach her starting puta carrier from an attitude stand point. She came out harsh and demeaning. We met outside of a bar, I was walking her to my zona Hotel, she told me her parents would not let her leave late and so we should make our connection much shorter than the first time. This inconsistency and hence a lie triggered me and I said back to her, didn't you tell me you live with your Brothers last time? She stopped walking, said something that started with, Mira! . , I did not hear the rest of it, I kept on walking without looking back leaving her there on Rivo.
Depends on whether you want a bar girl or one from the street. SG's will run you about $30 on average. $7-10 for ST room.
A bar girl from Hong Kong or Chicago should only cost about $100-120. Some will try to quote $150, possibly more. Stick to the 100-120 range. You could haggle for as low as $80 but it's not going to be easy. With HK girls If you don't have your own hotel room at Cascadas or Rizo de Oro, a 30 minute room is $40. If you have your own room the girl can stay with you up to 1 hour but are only obligated to stay 30 minutes. It really just depends on how much of a clock watcher they are. When I have my own room girls will typically stay 45-60 minutes at no extra charge. If you want to definitely lock her in for the full hour, you might have to pay her more.
At Chicago 30 minute rooms are $20.Got my first $150 quote. Definitely a trophy 20 year old. Something told me that I'd be disappointed so I passed. I think you have to have a good connection to make it worth the cost.
No way she stays away. Zero. She may not go back to the club, but she's not working for 1000 pesos a day either. She'll find a way to sell her body somewhere, somehow. It might not be day 1. It might be when mom needs cash for a surgery. Or junior needs school clothes. But it's destiny.I know a girl who managed to quit working at the clubs, but she basically just does outcalls now with a select group of guys who were her most dedicated clients. So far it's been working for her, but if it ever slowed down, I'm sure she would be right back working at the club although she claims she never liked working there. She wouldn't really have any other choice.
Got my first $150 quote. Definitely a trophy 20 year old. Something told me that I'd be disappointed so I passed. I think you have to have a good connection to make it worth the cost.Yeah the only $150 quote I ever got was also from a girl around that age. I countered with 120, she then said 140 was the lowest she could possibly go. We both stood firm so I basically told her to kick rocks in the nicest way possible. For the rest of the time I was there she was just standing around looking at her phone. I didn't have my own room that night, there was no way in hell I was going to pay her 140-150 and then an additional $40 for the room. I might as well just find a girl here in SD at that price point.
ABAJoeSmith123
06-14-24, 22:46
No way she stays away. Zero. She may not go back to the club, but she's not working for 1000 pesos a day either. She'll find a way to sell her body somewhere, somehow. It might not be day 1. It might be when mom needs cash for a surgery. Or junior needs school clothes. But it's destiny.
It's sad and you should all count your lucky stars you won the birth lottery being born in a rich country.Yeah. No way no how she can stay out forever when she has no job prospects that pay even remotely close to what she was making in the club. I give it 6 months and she'll be back to have her tits jizzed on and receiving oral creampies from mambas and indians.
Sad reality. She's actually a good person fighting to support her family. Makes me irritated knowing that in america there are ugly as hell women that have the most disgusting personalities ever yet they live comfortably in america. Whereas this drop dead gorgeous mexican girl with an actual good heart is forced to this life being molested by mongers. Like you said, we are lucky to be born on this side of the border. That's the only thing that allowed us to live our better lives.
Mongering is fun, but the human side of my conscience always reminds me of these realities.
AmericanPi
06-15-24, 16:30
Sad reality. She's actually a good person fighting to support her family. Makes me irritated knowing that in america there are ugly as hell women that have the most disgusting personalities ever yet they live comfortably in america. Whereas this drop dead gorgeous mexican girl with an actual good heart is forced to this life being molested by mongers. Like you said, we are lucky to be born on this side of the border. That's the only thing that allowed us to live our better lives.I have this recurring fantasy when I go to third world countries. I bring one of these chicks back home. Not to marry. Just to keep around for months. Banging while they basically wife around my house. And they're so grateful to have had a transition point here in the US. A way to get on their feet and start a new life. And after months of banging, when I'm starting to tire of them, I tell them it's time to go to east la or whatever and make it on their own.
It's just a fantasy. I'm married so it's not even possible. I just know that sometimes I have these girls basically fishing to see if I can help them longer term and it's a fantasy that I have them lounge around my house in lingerie while I help them figure out a new life.
Back to reality. Yeah boys count your lucky stars you live where you do. Also, don't judge these girls. I sometimes read demeaning posts saying this one is a puta and that one is trash. Anyone who has had hard times in their lives knows that not everyone has the luxury of unwavering integrity in how they make money and what they have to do to get to the next week. I am quite wealthy now, but I was lower middle class once. And I am not proud of some things I did either. A decision to work at HK, however unseemly, is also a decision to change the course of your awful life. To accelerate a change. To trade your integrity for opportunity.
Don't be cheap over that extra 20 dollars. Don't make them beg for it. Be courteous and respectful. Talk to them as humans. If you were in their shoes you might not have the strength to do what they do every day to survive. You might have taken the easier way out and accepted a shitty life. The best thing you can do is make it truly win win.
BrotherMouzone
06-15-24, 18:13
Usually I take what the girls tell me at its face value and go with it but I always harbor a significant reservation that most or even all of it is untrue.Well, generally speaking I'm with you on taking what these chicas say with a grain of salt, but at least in this situation I don't think the girl has a reason to lie to me about her situation at home. Known her for 3. 5 years, I've never given her money (outside of arriba money), and she's never asked me for money. She actually doesn't even press me to buy her drinks in the club she greatly prefers just to go straight arriba, which I find strange given the drink quotas they have, but hey at least it saves me money. I can count on one hand the number of drinks I've bought her in total the past 2 years. She's excellent at keeping in contact with me for the months at a time when I'm not in Tijuana and her Facebook / What's App / Tik Tok pics of her family lines up with the "story" she tells me.
So not seeing a reason for this particular girl to lie to me given that she's never gotten anything extra out of me (and doesn't seem interested in getting anything extra out of me from what I've seen in the 3. 5 years I've known her) though, again, I am with you on not taking what most of these girls say at face value.
After 5 years of being a human rag doll at HK and being penetrated by probably thousands of men, one of the hottest chicas in HK tells me she's finally leaving because her kids (now teenagers) found out what she does for a living and she can't keep doing this job now that they know. Says she's going to go back home and try to sell clothes in a store, kind of like an outdoor touristy souvenior small clothing store you see in touristy areas that sell magnets and souvenior shirts.
Good decision for her overall wellbeing but honestly, I wonder how long it will last. Hard to go from bringing in a few thousand dollars a week to suddenly maybe $40 per week.
Or, she found a client sucker that is now funneling her money on the side.
I hope it works out either way. Her body is still smoking hot despite all the mileage and molestation.Probably both, working as an employee in a clothes store won't make her as much money as working in HK, specially if she has more than one teen to take care of and pay for everything.
BrotherMouzone
06-15-24, 18:45
It's sad and you should all count your lucky stars you won the birth lottery being born in a rich country.Yeah, it's not at all lost on me that that could just as easily be me or you selling pussy for $$$ if we'd "lost the birth lottery" to use some of your wording. So yes, I've always felt bad for them in that regard, though at the same time we all know life isn't fair and there are actually people in this world living in much less desirable situations than even these chicas. That's life unfortunately.
Yeah boys count your lucky stars you live where you do. Also, don't judge these girls. I sometimes read demeaning posts saying this one is a puta and that one is trash. Anyone who has had hard times in their lives knows that not everyone has the luxury of unwavering integrity in how they make money and what they have to do to get to the next week. I am quite wealthy now, but I was lower middle class once. And I am not proud of some things I did either. A decision to work at HK, however unseemly, is also a decision to change the course of your awful life. To accelerate a change. To trade your integrity for opportunity.
Yeah, the demeaning posts say a lot more about those posters than the chicas in my opinion. While there's a lot of valuable information here, there's also a lot of shitty people on these boards LOL. It's one of the reasons I have zero interest in meeting up with anyone from these boards, though I'm sure most of the people here are perfectly fine individuals. At least from my view, these chicas' lives are every bit as valuable and they deserve as much respect as you, me, or anyone else but you can see the lack of respect and disdain for the chicas from many of the posters here. One of the worst was a poster here named TJBrazil, who's literally stated on these boards several times that he sees Mexicans (and other minorities) as inferior humans, yet this same guy is regularly in Tijuana seeking out sex with Mexican women, which kind of boggles my mind. Feel really awful that chicas have to deal with guys who view them in this way, and that's not even getting into the underreported physical abuse and even femicide that sometimes occurs in the hotel rooms.
Yeah. No way no how she can stay out forever when she has no job prospects that pay even remotely close to what she was making in the club. I give it 6 months and she'll be back to have her tits jizzed on and receiving oral creampies from mambas and indians.
Sad reality. She's actually a good person fighting to support her family. Makes me irritated knowing that in america there are ugly as hell women that have the most disgusting personalities ever yet they live comfortably in america. Whereas this drop dead gorgeous mexican girl with an actual good heart is forced to this life being molested by mongers. Like you said, we are lucky to be born on this side of the border. That's the only thing that allowed us to live our better lives.
Mongering is fun, but the human side of my conscience always reminds me of these realities."She's actually a good person fighting to support her family. Makes me irritated knowing that in america there are ugly as hell women that have the most disgusting personalities ever yet they live comfortably in america. Whereas this drop dead gorgeous mexican girl with an actual good heart is forced to this life being molested by mongers. ".
Learn about supply and demand. Along with human nature.
She's "fake nice" because her life is effed up. If her life was as good as the "American woman". She would have a nasty attitude as well. Don't kid yourself.
I see the illusion of who she is. Is working on you.
RikyMichaels7
06-15-24, 22:30
Yeah. No way no how she can stay out forever when she has no job prospects that pay even remotely close to what she was making in the club. I give it 6 months and she'll be back to have her tits jizzed on and receiving oral creampies from mambas and indians.
Sad reality. She's actually a good person fighting to support her family. Makes me irritated knowing that in america there are ugly as hell women that have the most disgusting personalities ever yet they live comfortably in america. Whereas this drop dead gorgeous mexican girl with an actual good heart is forced to this life being molested by mongers. Like you said, we are lucky to be born on this side of the border. That's the only thing that allowed us to live our better lives.
Mongering is fun, but the human side of my conscience always reminds me of these realities.I can totally relate to your conscience always being reminded of the brutal realities of these women. That reality is sad for many of them. Bottom line is that job options for them are available, but the pay is never enough to support themselves or their families. I have seen this time and time again with these women. Many have left the bars due to the stigma of it and their families finding out where they work to go work in hair salons, clothing stores, in factories and even as nurses. Most of them have kids and an ex-husband who cheated on them and left them hight and dry. Or, many have lazy ass boyfriends who don't contribute a dime. The money that they made in these jobs was neverenough to pay rent, buy food and other items needed to support their families. As a result, generally within up to 6 months they are right back at their only option for being able to support their families. Back in the bars. Their measly 60-100 dollar a week jobs did not cut it. And neither did the ridiculous hours they were expected to work to make this paltry salary.
In talking with many of these girls, I find that many have dreams of bettering themselves, either through going back to school or doing something like owning their own hair salon. But in most cases, this hope that they have is often diminished by several factors, including lack of capital, etc.
The girls that I have seen escape the bar life are usually those who have found an American dude with money and a willingness to bring them to America. I had a girlfriend that I met in Chavelas years ago who hated working there with a passion. She sold clothes at the flea markets and worked maybe 4 times a month in the club. She ended up getting a visa and working in restaurants in California, where she would send money home to her two teenaged kids. I always respected her for this.
LuvMexicanas
06-16-24, 07:10
Sex work is legitimate work but please stop with the bullshit illusion that these chicas have no other options. They do have options, just not ones that will allow them to live like they want to. This is the Hong Kong thread so the girls working there are the tiniest of tiniest fraction of chicas in Tijuana yet every day a thousand chicas go to work for every Hong Kong chica and guess what they manage their lives to the money they earn. The Hong Kong chicas who posters say have no options is just not true. They simply don't have options that will allow them to live the standard of living they've become accustomed to. Everyone has choices and they choose to sell pussy. Again, no judgement here because as I said sex work is legitimate work, just spare me the sob stories because everyone has struggles especially the women who work hard day in day out in a factory for much less pay.
AmericanPi
06-16-24, 15:55
Sex work is legitimate work but please stop with the bullshit illusion that these chicas have no other options. They do have options, just not ones that will allow them to live like they want to. This is the Hong Kong thread so the girls working there are the tiniest of tiniest fraction of chicas in Tijuana yet every day a thousand chicas go to work for every Hong Kong chica and guess what they manage their lives to the money they earn. The Hong Kong chicas who posters say have no options is just not true. They simply don't have options that will allow them to live the standard of living they've become accustomed to. Everyone has choices and they choose to sell pussy. Again, no judgement here because as I said sex work is legitimate work, just spare me the sob stories because everyone has struggles especially the women who work hard day in day out in a factory for much less pay.I love your contributions to the forum. You're a core member here. But I respectfully disagree here. Saying these girls have options that they just don't take is a semantic bait and switch if you define the word options as free will. Of course they have free will. That's not what I, or others, meant. The point being made is that the other job opportunities they have will leave them in a permanent state of financial despair. Here in California the minimum hourly wage is like 17 or 18 bucks now. In Tijuana it's just under 14 dollars per day. Even if Tijuana is cheaper, you can't buy diapers and formula and have a roof over your head with 14 dollars a day. So many of these girls make the choice, yes the choice, to trade their dignity for our salacious pleasure. I'm sure some of them are freaks and sex addicts and such. But most of them don't get off on having a rotating cast of nasty guys penetrate them with beer breath. It's a choice. But one many of them make out of necessity because they deem the other paths to be even more unpleasant. And I don't mean working retail. I mean living a life where they are permanently incapable of providing for those who depend on them. Many of these HK girls do things you or I would never do for money and they do it with inner strength and a conviction to just hold it all together and get that baby his diapers or get that mom her medication. And yes some get hooked on drugs or the fast life. Many have it thrust upon them as a form of virtual handcuffs.
You don't know me but I'm not woke. I despise people who talk like I'm talking up there. I never use words like privilege and equity unless I'm mocking people who talk like that. But in our private corner of the internet, where we all delight in banging Latinas half our age with no commitment, I am not in fear of someone dropping a me too bomb on me. So I feel at liberty to at least point out what I'm saying there. We need to know it. Some guys sense contempt from these girls and seem to have zero ability to infer where that contempt comes from or why it exists. It reveals a lack of empathy, the ability to imagine the same interaction had in HK but from the other person's perspective.
Ok PSA over. Back to swapping stories of the latest chick from Sinaloa or Michoacán to arrive in Tijuana that we have to avoid buying mini wine bottles for. Arriba arriba.
LuvMexicanas
06-16-24, 20:07
I love your contributions to the forum. You're a core member here. But I respectfully disagree here. Saying these girls have options that they just don't take is a semantic bait and switch if you define the word options as free will. Of course they have free will. That's not what I, or others, meant. The point being made is that the other job opportunities they have will leave them in a permanent state of financial despair. Here in California the minimum hourly wage is like 17 or 18 bucks now. In Tijuana it's just under 14 dollars per day. Even if Tijuana is cheaper, you can't buy diapers and formula and have a roof over your head with 14 dollars a day. So many of these girls make the choice, yes the choice, to trade their dignity for our salacious pleasure. I'm sure some of them are freaks and sex addicts and such. But most of them don't get off on having a rotating cast of nasty guys penetrate them with beer breath. It's a choice. But one many of them make out of necessity because they deem the other paths to be even more unpleasant. And I don't mean working retail. I mean living a life where they are permanently incapable of providing for those who depend on them. Many of these HK girls do things you or I would never do for money and they do it with inner strength and a conviction to just hold it all together and get that baby his diapers or get that mom her medication. And yes some get hooked on drugs or the fast life. Many have it thrust upon them as a form of virtual handcuffs.
You don't know me but I'm not woke. I despise people who talk like I'm talking up there. I never use words like privilege and equity unless I'm mocking people who talk like that. But in our private corner of the internet, where we all delight in banging Latinas half our age with no commitment, I am not in fear of someone dropping a me too bomb on me. So I feel at liberty to at least point out what I'm saying there. We need to know it. Some guys sense contempt from these girls and seem to have zero ability to infer where that contempt comes from or why it exists. It reveals a lack of empathy, the ability to imagine the same interaction had in HK but from the other person's perspective.
Ok PSA over. Back to swapping stories of the latest chick from Sinaloa or Michoacn to arrive in Tijuana that we have to avoid buying mini wine bottles for. Arriba arriba.I don't think we're at odds at all. My point is these chicas make more for their time than 99.99% of chicas who toil away in various jobs in Tijuana. With that, comes a price. When you pray for rain, you got to deal with the mud. This is by no means a pass for clients to disrespect or abuse them. I don't, but at the same time, it's not on me to solve the living wage issue in Mexico, the States or anywhere else for that matter.
So many of these girls make the choice, yes the choice, to trade their dignity for our salacious pleasure. I'm sure some of them are freaks and sex addicts and such. But most of them don't get off on having a rotating cast of nasty guys penetrate them with beer breath. It's a choice. But one many of them make out of necessity because they deem the other paths to be even more unpleasant. And I don't mean working retail. I mean living a life where they are permanently incapable of providing for those who depend on them. Many of these HK girls do things you or I would never do for money and they do it with inner strength and a conviction to just hold it all together and get that baby his diapers or get that mom her medication.How long will it last? How long can a girl go staying up late every night smoking and drinking and getting fucked in the ass until they burn out? Or, they just lose their looks and therefore their sex appeal and can't earn like the used to? And then they're back to where they started, and maybe even worse off (especially emotionally). Maybe they would have been better off doing like the thousands of chicas LuvMexicanas refers to by choosing a life of dignity from the start. Because their days of being a puta are going to come to an end one day. One way or another. And then what? Maybe it would be better to hold on to one's dignity from the start and never let that go.
You don't know me but I'm not woke. I despise people who talk like I'm talking up there. I never use words like privilege and equity unless I'm mocking people who talk like that. But in our private corner of the internet, where we all delight in banging Latinas half our age with no commitment, I am not in fear of someone dropping a me too bomb on me. So I feel at liberty to at least point out what I'm saying there. We need to know it. Some guys sense contempt from these girls and seem to have zero ability to infer where that contempt comes from or why it exists. It reveals a lack of empathy, the ability to imagine the same interaction had in HK but from the other person's perspective.
Ok PSA over. Back to swapping stories of the latest chick from Sinaloa or Michoacn to arrive in Tijuana that we have to avoid buying mini wine bottles for. Arriba arriba.I have been watching these YouTube videos that can be found by searching in Spanish "entrevista con una bailarina de Tijuana" or "con una carińosa. " The women here tell their stories. After watching quite a few of them, I summarize that, at the beginning, as young girls, they are usually from tight-knit but lower-class families. As they come into adulthood, they realize that what their parents guide them into doesn't fit their eccentric nature. They are independent and exploring types, and usually, they have good looks, as do the young women they hang out with. In the end, they begin sex work driven by the advice they get from friends or from what they read online, getting seduced by the idea of a financially robust life.
That is how it generally starts for these Latina women. There is no trauma, no drug abuse, and no sexual abuse; it is just an exploration of a better life.
The question of whether these women would go into sex work if they had better opportunities is tough to answer since it depends on the individual. One thing to consider is looking at the sex work industries in much richer countries like Japan, Germany, and the USA. You realize that the majority of the sex workers in these countries have opportunities to live comfortably outside sex work, but these women still select it to have access to lavish lifestyles via financial abundance. Look at the explosion of sex workers using OnlyFans in the USA.
It really comes down to lifestyle, especially when it is safer, less exposed, and less degrading. I am not sure the zona fits this bill. I wish we had a club where all the men are registered, known to be gentlemen, with reputations to protect, who respect the females while having fun and let nature take its course. Unfortunately, we have hundreds of guys who are spittles who come to places like the zona to vent, spread their feces like it is their toilet, and go back to their "Penis cemetery" country called the USA.
RikyMichaels7
06-16-24, 22:15
I love your contributions to the forum. You're a core member here. But I respectfully disagree here. Saying these girls have options that they just don't take is a semantic bait and switch if you define the word options as free will. Of course they have free will. That's not what I, or others, meant. The point being made is that the other job opportunities they have will leave them in a permanent state of financial despair. Here in California the minimum hourly wage is like 17 or 18 bucks now. In Tijuana it's just under 14 dollars per day. Even if Tijuana is cheaper, you can't buy diapers and formula and have a roof over your head with 14 dollars a day. So many of these girls make the choice, yes the choice, to trade their dignity for our salacious pleasure. I'm sure some of them are freaks and sex addicts and such. But most of them don't get off on having a rotating cast of nasty guys penetrate them with beer breath. It's a choice. But one many of them make out of necessity because they deem the other paths to be even more unpleasant. And I don't mean working retail. I mean living a life where they are permanently incapable of providing for those who depend on them. Many of these HK girls do things you or I would never do for money and they do it with inner strength and a conviction to just hold it all together and get that baby his diapers or get that mom her medication. And yes some get hooked on drugs or the fast life. Many have it thrust upon them as a form of virtual handcuffs.
You don't know me but I'm not woke. I despise people who talk like I'm talking up there. I never use words like privilege and equity unless I'm mocking people who talk like that. But in our private corner of the internet, where we all delight in banging Latinas half our age with no commitment, I am not in fear of someone dropping a me too bomb on me. So I feel at liberty to at least point out what I'm saying there. We need to know it. Some guys sense contempt from these girls and seem to have zero ability to infer where that contempt comes from or why it exists. It reveals a lack of empathy, the ability to imagine the same interaction had in HK but from the other person's perspective.
Ok PSA over. Back to swapping stories of the latest chick from Sinaloa or Michoacn to arrive in Tijuana that we have to avoid buying mini wine bottles for. Arriba arriba.I was also going to respond but your message sums it up and contains the point that I was originally trying to convey which is:
"The other job opportunities they have will leave them in a permanent state of financial despair. ".
This isn't a sob story but rather reality. Your comparisons of salary in Mexico vs. The United States further clarifies this point.
Sex work is legitimate work but please stop with the bullshit illusion that these chicas have no other options. They do have options, just not ones that will allow them to live like they want to. This is the Hong Kong thread so the girls working there are the tiniest of tiniest fraction of chicas in Tijuana yet every day a thousand chicas go to work for every Hong Kong chica and guess what they manage their lives to the money they earn. The Hong Kong chicas who posters say have no options is just not true. They simply don't have options that will allow them to live the standard of living they've become accustomed to. Everyone has choices and they choose to sell pussy. Again, no judgement here because as I said sex work is legitimate work, just spare me the sob stories because everyone has struggles especially the women who work hard day in day out in a factory for much less pay.I knew plenty of single moms when living in Tijuana that were able to get by without selling their body for sex.
Also most guys actually believe that these girls don't have a baby daddy still in their lives but all the friends of my ex had one but of course they don't say that while working.
Here in California the minimum hourly wage is like 17 or 18 bucks now. In Tijuana it's just under 14 dollars per day. Even if Tijuana is cheaper, you can't buy diapers and formula and have a roof over your head with 14 dollars a day. So many of these girls make the choice, yes the choice, to trade their dignity for our salacious pleasure. I'm sure some of them are freaks and sex addicts and such. But most of them don't get off on having a rotating cast of nasty guys penetrate them with beer breath. It's a choice. But one many of them make out of necessity because they deem the other paths to be even more unpleasant. And I don't mean working retail. I mean living a life where they are permanently incapable of providing for those who depend on them. Many of these HK girls do things you or I would never do for money and they do it with inner strength and a conviction to just hold it all together and get that baby his diapers or get that mom her medication. And yes some get hooked on drugs or the fast life. Many have it thrust upon them as a form of virtual handcuffs.Not sure what your source is for the daily minimum wage in Tijuana but it's way off. Since the dollar fluctuates I'd only put what they make in pesos. Also your assuming these girls grew up in Tijuana but the very high majority only come to Tijuana for work so they might make less back home but it would also cost much less. The other thing is the family that they can live with. So they don't need to live on their own. I knew many girls that came to Tijuana just to make money working at a bar just so they could have an independent life and get away from some boring small town.
Also Mexico has different programs to help single mothers from very low cost medical to affordable housing.
I love your contributions to the forum. You're a core member here. But I respectfully disagree here. Saying these girls have options that they just don't take is a semantic bait and switch if you define the word options as free will. Of course they have free will. That's not what I, or others, meant. The point being made is that the other job opportunities they have will leave them in a permanent state of financial despair. Here in California the minimum hourly wage is like 17 or 18 bucks now. In Tijuana it's just under 14 dollars per day. Even if Tijuana is cheaper, you can't buy diapers and formula and have a roof over your head with 14 dollars a day. So many of these girls make the choice, yes the choice, to trade their dignity for our salacious pleasure. I'm sure some of them are freaks and sex addicts and such. But most of them don't get off on having a rotating cast of nasty guys penetrate them with beer breath. It's a choice. But one many of them make out of necessity because they deem the other paths to be even more unpleasant. And I don't mean working retail. I mean living a life where they are permanently incapable of providing for those who depend on them. Many of these HK girls do things you or I would never do for money and they do it with inner strength and a conviction to just hold it all together and get that baby his diapers or get that mom her medication. And yes some get hooked on drugs or the fast life. Many have it thrust upon them as a form of virtual handcuffs.
You don't know me but I'm not woke. I despise people who talk like I'm talking up there. I never use words like privilege and equity unless I'm mocking people who talk like that. But in our private corner of the internet, where we all delight in banging Latinas half our age with no commitment, I am not in fear of someone dropping a me too bomb on me. So I feel at liberty to at least point out what I'm saying there. We need to know it. Some guys sense contempt from these girls and seem to have zero ability to infer where that contempt comes from or why it exists. It reveals a lack of empathy, the ability to imagine the same interaction had in HK but from the other person's perspective.
Ok PSA over. Back to swapping stories of the latest chick from Sinaloa or Michoacn to arrive in Tijuana that we have to avoid buying mini wine bottles for. Arriba arriba.I totally agree with what you are saying in regards to the girls. I can't think of many situations where any of these girls actually enjoy what they are doing unless they form a relationship with a nice caring guy they have genuine attraction for or have some sort of, trauma, mental illness, on drugs.
The thought of these girls having to suck it up and endure doing what they do is heartbreaking. From my observation most the guys are around the zona are losers. A wide variety of drunk, fat, not hygienically clean slobs and everything in between and like you say some are abusive and have poor attitude with these girls. I would guess most these girls have some form of PTSD from it all.
It seems somewhat hypocritical to me that some of you who feel so sorry for the girls have no qualms about going down there and contributing to the so-called problem. "Just look at all the nasty losers they have to fuck, but with me it A-OK. " –– That's literally what every guy who goes down there is thinking, even the nasty losers themselves (Except for the one guy on this board with really low self-esteem. Not naming any names.).
I don't really feel sorry for the girls. I've known a few of them quite well, and I don't think they are any more of less happy than the girl who works in the "fabrica. " They're not slaves, and they don't really have to fuck anyone if they don't want to. For a lot of them, this is a way of life. They don't really know any different, and a lot of them came from worse situations than this. Thus, they don't have a point of reference from which to say, "wow, my life is bad. " In fact, their life could actually be good in comparison to their previous situation. It's not like they were fired from their job as a hedge fund manager and forced to become a ho.
Yes, options are more limited in Mexico. Especially for women. Right or wrong, in a way you be thankful for this because it is exactly what allows us to get the caliber of pussy we are getting. You know what happens when you empower women and give them plenty of options. The US happens. Any we all know what the pussy situation is like there.
It seems somewhat hypocritical to me that some of you who feel so sorry for the girls have no qualms about going down there and contributing to the so-called problem. I mean this place is just reeking with hypocrisy! As for me, I have empathy, but it's not something I dwell on. But don't treat the girls bad just because they're putas. Now, these girls they do have options. They aren't great options, but who said life was easy? Life is hard. As Ali said, life is trials and tribulations. But the thing is, not just thousands but millions and millions of women around the world, many with even fewer good options than Mexican women have, choose not to sell their bodies in favor of doing something else that preserves their dignity. These working girls mostly chose to go into the profession, each one for her own particular reasons, and I and millions of other men are consumers of their services. It is what it is. We all have to do what we have to do to in order to survive in at least the minimum manner that we would like to. Have food, clothing, and shelter. Get medicine. Pay our monthly bills. Take care of our families. For so, so many that's a never ending struggle. And it all can lead to making some very difficult life decisions. But I ask again, who said life was easy (especially for women)? Life is hard. Life is trials and tribulations. And then you die.
LuvMexicanas
06-17-24, 16:20
I mean this place is just reeking with hypocrisy! As for me, I have empathy, but it's not something I dwell on. But don't treat the girls bad just because they're putas. Now, these girls they do have options. They aren't great options, but who said life was easy? Life is hard. As Ali said, life is trials and tribulations. But the thing is, not just thousands but millions and millions of women around the world, many with even fewer good options than Mexican women have, choose not to sell their bodies in favor of doing something else that preserves their dignity. These working girls mostly chose to go into the profession, each one for her own particular reasons, and I and millions of other men are consumers of their services. It is what it is. We all have to do what we have to do to in order to survive in at least the minimum manner that we would like to. Have food, clothing, and shelter. Get medicine. Pay our monthly bills. Take care of our families. For so, so many that's a never ending struggle. And it all can lead to making some very difficult life decisions. But I ask again, who said life was easy (especially for women)? Life is hard. Life is trials and tribulations. And then you die.As an economics professor I had once said, "no one promised you a rose garden" People have choices. It might not be choices you like and at the end of the day you reap what you sow.
BrotherMouzone
06-17-24, 21:55
But don't treat the girls bad just because they're putas.
At least for me, this was my only point as you see the lack of respect both on these boards and inside the clubs. As far as the discussion about "options" I lean towards your view that the girls generally do have other options, albeit those other options usually not affording nearly as comfortable a lifestyle. Three of the chicas I deal with regularly at HK are college educated and come off as very intelligent and capable to me. My thought is they'd all be able to land "regular" jobs that pay more (perhaps way more) than what the average Mexican woman, or maybe even more than what the average Mexican person regardless of gender makes. But even that kind of salary would pale in comparison to what they make only working a few days a week at HK part-time. So those chicas have CHOSEN to go the HK route to afford a more comfortable lifestyle that from what I've seen personally not only affords them a better lifestyle for their kids, but nice cars, clothes, and the means to travel both throughout Mexico and internationally on a regular basis. I understand that most chicas at HK are relatively uneducated and come from more dire situations but even they generally have options, that was just one example off the top of my head.
Life options are certainly more limited for these chicas, which isn't fair, but at the end of the day life isn't fair. In my mind it's somewhat like defending someone whose taken up a criminal lifestlye by saying they came from an impoverished family, so therefore "didn't have any other options" but a life of crime to make a decent life for themselves and their family. Certainly have empathy for being born into an impoverished situation but to say that there are no other "options" other than a life of crime to lead a sustainable life is patently false. Of course there are different moral considerations when judging an illegal life of crime vs. The legal prostitution work here but think in both situations there are other reasonable life options that can be chosen, even if limited.
Theo TheMonger
06-18-24, 16:14
Jim, I have never used any type of blue pill before, but this post totally resonated with me. Sage advice indeed.
My question: Short of going to your doctor (not going to happen with me) is there any way to get those in a way that you know for sure, without any doubt, that they are legit 100% pure and correct unadulterated real deal pills? That you know with confidence that they're good? First from a safety standpoint and then from a not getting ripped off standpoint?
About 15 years ago I had my first trip to Medellin Colombia and I met one MDE veteran who took me under his wing (I'm Mexican and a Tijuana local so I would translate for him, it was a simbiotic relationship), the first thing he said to me was to buy the blue pill, I was also in my 30's and told him that I didn't need it, then he asked me, what is the most expensive thing that you're going to buy doring this trip?
Back then Colombia was a lot cheaper than Tijuana, but still I said that "girls" was the most expensive thing I would spend my money on. The answered "no" most expensive part of your trip is your time, time you're taking of from work, you're spending vacation days in this trip instead of spending it at a more tourist and interesting part of the world.
Then he told me that I needed viagra because it would help me to keep up with all the girls available for me to f*ck, and he was right, you stop doing girls not because you run out of money, in reality you run out of sexual stamina, and since you're just visiting for a week or two you better make the best out of that time.
Heard a HK girl has been in intensive care this past week after taking too much drugs in a room, possibly even forced to have sex with more than one man in a Cas penthouse. Anyone heard this?
Jim, I have never used any type of blue pill before, but this post totally resonated with me. Sage advice indeed.
My question: Short of going to your doctor (not going to happen with me) is there any way to get those in a way that you know for sure, without any doubt, that they are legit 100% pure and correct unadulterated real deal pills? That you know with confidence that they're good? First from a safety standpoint and then from a not getting ripped off standpoint?Costco in Tijuana sells Pfizer Viagra at decent prices. No prescription necessary. You just need a Costco membership.
Jim, I have never used any type of blue pill before, but this post totally resonated with me. Sage advice indeed.
My question: Short of going to your doctor (not going to happen with me) is there any way to get those in a way that you know for sure, without any doubt, that they are legit 100% pure and correct unadulterated real deal pills? That you know with confidence that they're good? First from a safety standpoint and then from a not getting ripped off standpoint?Its simple. Just go to any normal Tijuana pharmacy and ask for sildenafil, viagra, or cialis.
ABAJoeSmith123
06-19-24, 06:32
Heard a HK girl has been in intensive care this past week after taking too much drugs in a room, possibly even forced to have sex with more than one man in a Cas penthouse. Anyone heard this?That sucks if its true. Wouldn't be surprised though knowing the all the types of risks and deals many of the chicas make to earn extra cash. Drugged and gang banged by a couple rough mongers would cause all sorts of injuries. Internal bleeding, vaginal tears, etc.
Theo TheMonger
06-19-24, 06:40
Its simple. Just go to any normal Tijuana pharmacy and ask for sildenafil, viagra, or cialis.Fantastic. Thank you, guys.
Captain Solo
06-19-24, 20:11
Sunday night HK was only half full, wingmen and I were sitting at the table in front of the TV, watching sports, strip show, playing with hot girls. A few wingmen, who I have not seen a while, came in and sat with us.
Most strippers were thick and heavily tatted, not worth watching. Talents were not so good until after 9. A few regulars came back, Frieda with her eyeglasses, big lumpy Maria spread out on the stool in front of bar Kowloon while a dignified old man lovingly caressed her crotch hehe. Her winggirl Zulma has not been back for a year, probably died of cervical cancer.
Tall, voluptuous, beautiful Chapter 11 was hanging out near the strip stage, looking tall, strong, beautiful and sexy like Vegas dance girls. She grabbed me and asked, when will Papaya come back. She has been known to drive guys into filing chapter 11 after knowing her a few months hehe. I had no idea how she knew Papaya and I sometimes hang out together in HK. The girls are very observant of guys with their spending habits and they have long memories. She's probably been urging Papaya to sell all his houses, cars, stocks, investments, IRAs and come down to have good times with her hehe.
I cruised HK and Chavelas a few times but did not find any girls with beauty and class whom I would buy drinks or go to hotel with. Cute spinner Chelia de Cuilacan came back with her brand new see boobs, defying gravity, sticking out in front of her small frame like 2 thousand-pound bombs on a small jet, completely out of proportion with her tight butt. I gave her a propina, squeezed her new boobs, all mushy. She admitted they are brand-new boobs. She was one of the most popular strippers, pretty, cute and fun as hell, the fav or ballers like Jabba the Butt, but now she cannot strip with her heavy-duty big boobs swinging in front of her chest. She was floating around the club, flirting with my wingmen and guys nonstop, sitting on the stage, smiling sexily, winking, spreading her legs, bucking her crotch suggestively, but nobody sat with her or bought her a drink all night. I would have sat with her but not with her ugly fake boobs. She should have kept her beautiful, perky, natural A cups which I love. Here's the pic of Tanya de Mexicali, a very pretty, very cute spinner, speaks perfect English, one of my favoritas.
Business was not good in HK even for the hottest, funnest girls like Chelia, so she bet on pumping up her boobs to boost business. Guys reported she quoted $250 for a session with her new boobs, but apparently that did not work, and few may be no guys bit. Chef Boyardi had set up dates with 3 Good Girls who all stood him up with no reason given, but likely because he was staying in hotel Cascada in La Zona. Finally he was hard up, bit Chelia's bait, took her to his room for $120 for 45 minutes. Afterward he complained she insisted he pay first, but that's standard procedure for all HK girls AFAIK, then she had way too many nos and rules, like no squeezing her new boobs, no touching her pussy, of course no kissing etc. He was frustrated and could not pop, later had to book a Tropical girl, not as pretty opr sexy, nevertheless gave him full access and satisfaction for an hour.
4 Mexican guys in mid 30's squeezed in our table, looking nice, cool, reasonable guys. They bought a bottle of J Walker Black and cervezas for a couple girls, but not the expensive vinitos, and did not take them to the hotel. The older brother pulled out a roll of 20 and 100 dollar bills the size of a coffee can, tipping meseros generously, but they were not flashy and hogging attention like Jabba the Ape. They were nice, fun, said they were Mexicans, denied having anything to do with Sinaloa or Medellin despite. You never know whom you sit next to in HK.
All through the night strippers made very little propinas, no rains, only a few $ each time, a few did not get a single bill, but HK girls keep jacking up prices to ridiculous $200-250 a session, coupled with $ 40ST room, $30 vinotos, $11 fichas, $6 beers and hands out for tip left and right, total double socal's escorts rates. No wonder very few guys are buying fichas, taking girls upstairs or spending money in the club. I have seen the decline of HK's putas business over the last couple months. Someone should talk sense to Hk management and its putas to reduce prices and improve services to boost business.
Many girls are available on line in SoCal for $60-120 half hour sessions, Mexican, Asian, South Americans ect. Make sure to check references so you don't fall victims to LE stings or robberies.
Dcrist0527
06-19-24, 20:13
Fantastic. Thank you, guys.I would recommend Piri Farmacia. It's a few blocks from HK. There have been plenty of reports of fake pills. I can't confirm or deny those reports. But I can confirm Piri is very legit and can speak from first hand. You won't get fakes there.
I'd also recommend the Edegra ir Maxifort brands. For whatever reason, the side effects are less than the more popular Figral brand.
Jim, I have never used any type of blue pill before, but this post totally resonated with me. Sage advice indeed.
My question: Short of going to your doctor (not going to happen with me) is there any way to get those in a way that you know for sure, without any doubt, that they are legit 100% pure and correct unadulterated real deal pills? That you know with confidence that they're good? First from a safety standpoint and then from a not getting ripped off standpoint?Like everyone else who answered your question here. You can buy viagra from any phamacy, contrary to what the US media tells you, pharmacies in Mexico don't sell you fake medicine, they may sell you a generic brand but it is still the drug that you asked for.
A lot of americans cross the border to get their prescriptions filled in Tijuana due to the cheaper prices, that's why there's so many farmacies downtown Tijuana.
I would recommend Piri Farmacia. It's a few blocks from HK. There have been plenty of reports of fake pills. I can't confirm or deny those reports. But I can confirm Piri is very legit and can speak from first hand. You won't get fakes there.
I'd also recommend the Edegra ir Maxifort brands. For whatever reason, the side effects are less than the more popular Figral brand.I also recommend "Farmacia Piri" Short walks from.
Tijuana arch in front of the Wax museum. Open until 7 pm (probably not on Mondays.) I like Figral (Sildenafil) made in Mexico by Mavi Farmaceutica 50 MG or 100 MG. You can take 100 MG per 24 hours maximum and do not mix with alcohol. (In my opinion, one or two beers is ok but I'm not a doctor.) I paid 150 Pesos (US $8. 82) for 2 packs of 10 tablets of 50 MG. The young girl behind the counter can advise you and what she recommends.
. Here's the pic of Tanya de Mexicali, a very pretty, very cute spinner, speaks perfect English, one of my favoritas.Shows you have a good taste. She is really a classy girl and has incredible good looks to boot. One of the smartest girls in my view, surprised she is still working in the zona as damn intelligent as she is.
All through the night strippers made very little propinas, no rains, only a few $ each time, a few did not get a single bill, but HK girls keep jacking up prices to ridiculous $200-250 a session, coupled with $ 40ST room, $30 vinotos, $11 fichas, $6 beers and hands out for tip left and right, total double socal's escorts rates. No wonder very few guys are buying fichas, taking girls upstairs or spending money in the club. I have seen the decline of HK's putas business over the last couple months. Someone should talk sense to Hk management and its putas to reduce prices and improve services to boost business.
Many girls are available on line in SoCal for $60-120 half hour sessions, Mexican, Asian, South Americans ect. Make sure to check references so you don't fall victims to LE stings or robberies.The Market will dictate if this will continue. HK is now becoming as untouchable as DeJa Vu. The issue is dumb-ass clubs like Chicao are not taking advantage of this craziness in HK. If there was any club that is sane enough to incentivize the girls to bring down the prices to $100/30 min not only will have Johns but also girls flock there.
Having said that, I was quoted $175 in HK by some idiot who then said $150 like I didn't know what was happening, although I had no issues getting girls, girls who look like Tanya who would agree for $100/30 min.
Captain Solo
06-20-24, 19:23
Couple hot girls quoted me $160. I told them I could only pay $100. Eventually they took $100. A few hot girls I know a while will do me for 1,000 or 1,200 pesos or $55-65 every time.
A hot girl hit on R2 D2, quoted $150. He did not like her so said, he only had $80. She walked away a while then came back for $80. He did not like her but was stuck with his offer and had to take her up. Tall girl Alejandra de Tijuana quoted me $150 then agreed on $100, but I did not like her bad breath, also she had no sexy charms, so I put her off.
A new wingman was drinking with me, not wanting to bag any girl. One came by urging him to go upstairs. He said he only does BB. She agreed. He said he only had $60 left, She quickly agreed, so he had to go up with her.
Obi-Wan was sitting with a hot girl next to the stage. She wanted him to go up. He said he had only $35 left. She whined for a while but went for $35. Knowing Obi-Wan's habits, he likely got 2 shots with her for $35.
Girls will play all kinds of stupid games to squeeze as much as they can from guys, bleed them dry if they can. Couple wingmen lost all cash and assets, went deep into debt to be big guys, buying nonstop fichas, gifts, cash loans ect to alleged HK GFs like fools. When he ran out of money, she did not even know who he was in the club. She was not even pretty, a plain woman with a loose pussy. Later on she got kicked out of HK, turned $20 tricks in the alley, half her face got burned in a meth lab, she could not sell sex so just disappear.
Guys should not pay prices higher than prevalent market. Guys should be strong and smart enough not to get played and bled dry by ugly, stinky putas.
The issue is dumb-ass clubs like Chicao are not taking advantage of this craziness in HK. If there was any club that is sane enough to incentivize the girls to bring down the prices to $100/30 min not only will have Johns but also girls flock there.How is a club going to incentivize a girl to come and make less money? The club can't control what the girls ask for. I'd imagine in your line of work you wouldn't go to work doing the same job at a business across the street if you made less money. Even in sports you see the high majority of free agents go for the highest pay, not for a place that pays them less but has a better chance of winning.
When I read most reports the high majority of girls are still taking $100. The ones that ask for higher amount without going lower have made a decision that they will only do this job for a certain price, besides most girls that ask for these high prices won't be anything special in bed so even if you got them lower it wouldn't be worth it IMO.
Reminds me of the many straight guys that do gay porn, they don't want to but since the money is so much better they decide it's worth it.
DonCarlos1234
06-21-24, 00:26
Couple hot girls quoted me $160. I told them I could only pay $100. Eventually they took $100. A few hot girls I know a while will do me for 1,000 or 1,200 pesos or $55-65 every time.
Girls will play all kinds of stupid games to squeeze as much as they can from guys, bleed them dry if they can. Couple wingmen lost all cash and assets, went deep into debt to be big guys, buying nonstop fichas, gifts, cash loans ect to alleged HK GFs like fools. When he ran out of money, she did not even know who he was in the club. She was not even pretty, a plain woman with a loose pussy. Later on she got kicked out of HK, turned $20 tricks in the alley, half her face got burned in a meth lab, she could not sell sex so just disappear.
Guys should not pay prices higher than prevalent market. Guys should be strong and smart enough not to get played and bled dry by ugly, stinky putas.I am only interested in HOT GIRLS (really hot!) and any prices above $100 for short term. Is stupid. Even $100 is bad because this is all slam bam thank you man shit. I have an 8 day date in Colombia and was stupidly thinking to cancel because of flight times, hotels, tours, tip etc. Will no doubt end up at $3 K all inclusive, over a 3 week trip. (8-9 dys with one HOT girl) Tijuana could cost less but I am not in need of bad memories just to save $.
Captain Solo
06-21-24, 01:02
I cannot stand bagging the same girl more than once, left alone staying with the same girl 8 days. Congrats on your loyalty. I prefer to explore new beauties, sweet attitudes, hot sex every time.
That's HK's main appeal. Over 100 hot young girls are available for flirting, playing and sex every night. New talents show up every week. HK is better and sexier than the harems of Arabia. We are living sexier than the Emirs and Sultans of the Middle East. We don't have to be like the king living and putting up with bitching and whining by the same old, ugly queen.
You can still find super hot local Tijuana girls who can give you love and lust above and beyond the wham bam thank you mams, may be even serious relationships. You should also try the Seeking and escort scenes in Sonora and Guadalajara. Food, love, sex, safety would be far better than Colombia.
I am only interested in HOT GIRLS (really hot!) and any prices above $100 for short term. Is stupid. Even $100 is bad because this is all slam bam thank you man shit. I have an 8 day date in Colombia and was stupidly thinking to cancel because of flight times, hotels, tours, tip etc. Will no doubt end up at $3 K all inclusive, over a 3 week trip. (8-9 dys with one HOT girl) Tijuana could cost less but I am not in need of bad memories just to save $.
I am only interested in HOT GIRLS (really hot!) and any prices above $100 for short term. Is stupid. Even $100 is bad because this is all slam bam thank you man shit. I have an 8 day date in Colombia and was stupidly thinking to cancel because of flight times, hotels, tours, tip etc. Will no doubt end up at $3 K all inclusive, over a 3 week trip. (8-9 dys with one HOT girl) Tijuana could cost less but I am not in need of bad memories just to save $.Really wanted to go to Medellin this time around. Checked the flights from the west coast, the only cheap flight sub $600 is from Tijuana and which also doesn't take 24 hrs to get there. The flights are a switch in Mexico City and direct to MDN from there. However, If one goes there then 2 weeks minimum is a must and from your post that is about $2 K + $500 flight. A bit steep than just going to Tijuana to get a groove going for 3 days. Tijuana cost me about $800 for 4 days with VIP including flights.
DonCarlos1234
06-21-24, 12:21
Really wanted to go to Medellin this time around. Checked the flights from the west coast, the only cheap flight sub $600 is from Tijuana and which also doesn't take 24 hrs to get there. The flights are a switch in Mexico City and direct to MDN from there. However, If one goes there then 2 weeks minimum is a must and from your post that is about $2 K + $500 flight. A bit steep than just going to Tijuana to get a groove going for 3 days. Tijuana cost me about $800 for 4 days with VIP including flights.5 star rooms are $100 or less, book flight 3 months in advance west coast under $600. Stay a week or 10 days. 10-12 hrs is average. Depends on where you are of course. I'm in Vegas. Brazil is not that much more. Not to mention. My date is real GFE benefits. No hustle for $. Long term if it goes well. On site interpreter for the tours we do to guatape etc. She would come to Tijuana (Rosarito beach etc.) in the future. Her ticket is changeable in case of boredom which is unlikely. And no hard feelings either way. Memories worth having. Don't get me wrong, I have been to Tijuana so many times I lost count. There were some very hot girls, a couple repeated over and over. The average girls working in Tijuana make me want to puke. SA girls there also hot but spoiled and expensive. If I don't go, it could haunt me. I'll try Tijuana again this Sunday, have to be there anyway. Only looking for stunners, only potential GFE for more visits later. We shall see.
LuvMexicanas
06-22-24, 02:18
5 star rooms are $100 or less, book flight 3 months in advance west coast under $600. Stay a week or 10 days. 10-12 hrs is average. Depends on where you are of course. I'm in Vegas. Brazil is not that much more. Not to mention. My date is real GFE benefits. No hustle for $. Long term if it goes well. On site interpreter for the tours we do to guatape etc. She would come to Tijuana (Rosarito beach etc.) in the future. Her ticket is changeable in case of boredom which is unlikely. And no hard feelings either way. Memories worth having. Don't get me wrong, I have been to Tijuana so many times I lost count. There were some very hot girls, a couple repeated over and over. The average girls working in Tijuana make me want to puke. SA girls there also hot but spoiled and expensive. If I don't go, it could haunt me. I'll try Tijuana again this Sunday, have to be there anyway. Only looking for stunners, only potential GFE for more visits later. We shall see.Speak for yourself. I get repeated GFE every single trip lots of kissing (not really my thing), CIP, getting licked clean afterwards, her not wanting to leave, etc. But in all fairness to the point you're making, I'm not the average monger.
DramaFree11
06-22-24, 06:01
Speak for yourself. I get repeated GFE every single trip lots of kissing (not really my thing), CIP, getting licked clean afterwards, her not wanting to leave, etc. But in all fairness to the point you're making, I'm not the average monger.When I was hanging out HK, I also had great experiences, far better than what I experienced in Colombia.
I love the Mexican girls and have very low opinions of the Colombian Chicks.
If you go down to the zona fairly regularly, there's no reason why you shouldn't have at least a handful of girls at your disposal who provide GFE/BBFS services. You don't even have to be a great looking guy. Just dress decently, treat the girls well and practice good hygiene. You shouldnt be traveling halfway across the world for this. If you want an Asian girl, go visit a well reviewed AMP. DFK and BBBJ’s are standard there and BBFS is attainable.
LuvMexicanas
06-23-24, 19:27
If you go down to the zona fairly regularly, there's no reason why you shouldn't have at least a handful of girls at your disposal who provide GFE/BBFS services. You don't even have to be a great looking guy. Just dress decently, treat the girls well and practice good hygiene. You shouldnt be traveling halfway across the world for this. If you want an Asian girl, go visit a well reviewed AMP. DFK and BBBJs are standard there and BBFS is attainable.Yep and this isn't limited to the Zona or even pay for play. I love Mexican women as if you couldn't tell by my handle. Lately I've been enjoying the chase on Tinder throughout Mexico. I was in Guanajuato and a chica took a bus an hour to visit me. We fucked and slept off and on for a few hours and then she left because she had to work the next day. I've done similar in Sonora several times. Every time, sex has happened within 2-3 dates usually the second and sometimes first date. I've done the same drill in Tijuana, Mexico City and San Diego. There's never been even a mention of condom. Half will want me to cum outside because they're not on birth control but often in the heat of the moment they'll tell me to cum in them but I pull out much to their chagrin. Don't get it twisted, I LOVE hookers. The convenience, ease, no need for small talk, and she won't get clingy. But there's something to be said for the feeling of sex with a woman who perhaps wants you more than you want her.
If you go down to the zona fairly regularly, there's no reason why you shouldn't have at least a handful of girls at your disposal who provide GFE/BBFS services. Agreed. The key concept is being a regular and having experience. Without it or an experienced wing man it is difficult to have fun in the Zona because it is tricky. This I believe.
have very low opinions of the Colombian Chicks.Surprised you wrote that. Can you elaborate because I hear from other experienced mongers who travel the world Colombia after Brazil is the place to be. Tijuana is almost never mentioned, mostly because of its location is secluded as a west coaster play ground, or milking ground if you see it from the view points of the businesses and the women there.
DramaFree11
06-23-24, 20:21
Surprised you wrote that. Can you elaborate because I hear from other experienced mongers who travel the world Colombia after Brazil is the place to be. Tijuana is almost never mentioned, mostly because of its location is secluded as a west coaster play ground, or milking ground if you see it from the view points of the businesses and the women there.Colombia is a hard no for me, but some love it. I love Mxico CDMX and MTY, there are also some other great destinations. I have written lots of reports on this subject, you can read them.
LuvMexicanas
06-23-24, 20:44
Surprised you wrote that. Can you elaborate because I hear from other experienced mongers who travel the world Colombia after Brazil is the place to be. Tijuana is almost never mentioned, mostly because of its location is secluded as a west coaster play ground, or milking ground if you see it from the view points of the businesses and the women there.Then you must be new because he has a habit of bouncing across threads whenever Colombia is mentioned so he can bash it. It's a very old and tired act to be honest.
Captain Solo
06-30-24, 22:06
Will be in hk with a couple wingmen.
Come by and say Hi to the bros.
Took this trash to my room, of all people I made that mistake. When she gave me a deal for bare chupar I let go of all precautions. Never seen such a manipulative biach, she must have been reading these forums because she played a game to a T. In any case she didn't deliver not even at the bare minimum, she jumped for la plata that was in the desk, grabbed it and stormed out. A loss for her now HK managers are after her.
BrotherMouzone
07-03-24, 23:37
Took this trash to my room, of all people I made that mistake. When she gave me a deal for bare chupar I let go of all precautions. Never seen such a manipulative biach, she must have been reading these forums because she played a game to a T. In any case she didn't deliver not even at the bare minimum, she jumped for la plata that was in the desk, grabbed it and stormed out. A loss for her now HK managers are after her.Don't quite understand what you're saying here. Are you saying a chica you were going arriba with grabbed the payment (or some other valuable you had) prior to sex and then left the room?
Don't quite understand what you're saying here. Are you saying a chica you were going arriba with grabbed the payment (or some other valuable you had) prior to sex and then left the room?Yep. More details but that is the summary. HK management were good, they understood and waiting to get me half the money and fire her.
BrotherMouzone
07-04-24, 21:47
Yep. More details but that is the summary. HK management were good, they understood and waiting to get me half the money and fire her.Wow, very sorry to hear. Never had anything like that happen in all my years going down there.
Wow, very sorry to hear. Never had anything like that happen in all my years going down there.The good thing is that HK management know, the 2nd they allow this type of things take place their business will dry up in a year. I was there yesterday night, the place is like a large cruise ship, swallowed all those people, filled in every nook and cranny. What makes that place tic is what and how sex is played in the bedroom, that is it. The girls can treat mongers on the floor like shit and the guys accept that, but once you get in the room and you get a type of service like US sex workers give, it is good-bye-bye HK.
(just like Adelitas).
If the girls agree on one thing and change course on a whim once in the room, change the price, upsale things once you get naked, panocha smelling like a skunk spray, going arriba while bleeding, etc. Guys should report it.
The manger said it, he said he wants mongers to complain and report every mistreatment in the rooms so they keep a record. He told me the girls complain about guys all the time. Mongers don't or rarely do.
Captain Solo
07-07-24, 01:56
Monday morning drove down with Obi Wan and Papaya. Went to lunch then got a long bench in the middle of HK drinking, watching strip show, waiting for wingmen.
Tall blond Jessica from Guadalajara was stripping, light skin, beautiful body, no tats, pretty face. Had to give her propinas to squeeze her perky natural boobs and bubble butt. She stripped a couple times that night, got only a few $ each round. Bunter Hiden just flew in from out of town, sat drinking with us. He said she was beautiful but had a hard life; her face showed lots of worries, could be for her hijos or the useless mooching, physically abusing boyfriend. Invited her for a cervezas, a very nice girl of 26. Almost all HK girls now quote $150 for 30 min sessions. She was firm at 150 then reduced to 120 for 20 minutes, $80 for 10 minutes in the privado. By the time she agreed to $100 I lost my interest. She was working hard, cruising the club, standing by the stairway all night but no one bought her a drink.
Obi Wan was drinking with us, not picking up any girl. He spotted a tall blonde descending the stairs, smitten by her beauty and grace, 23 YO, 5'7 110 lbs, tall slim with an Asian physique, looking like the young flirty Sharon Stone. She wanted $150; he did not bite. He talked to her again a few times. Bunter was impressed with her good looks. Finally she agreed to $120. He said, due to her ravishing beauty he might pop quickly, wanted a second pop; she agreed. They quickly absconded to the room.
By his own account, he was well prepared for this trip, traveled with a roll-along suitcase and a back pack, packing 2 cold bottles of $50 Moet and Chandon pink champagne, sure beat the HK's fake vinegar vinitos. He put on Latin music, plied her champagne, cheese and cracker, sweet talk, made out with her in bed. She said an older woman in GDL told her how she made decent money in HK. She flew down by herself, walked in HK and applied for a job. Gen Man copied her IDs, sent her out for a health certificate to start work. This was only her second trip.
She would kiss but no eating pussy, no BB. Soon he was humping her in all positions and popped in 20 minutes. They continued the party with champagne and snacks. He humped her again and popped second and third rounds, 1 hour each. She stayed with him over 3 hours until security knocked. He urged her to get down to the club to make some money.
But unlike with other HK girls, he was smitten with this blond. In between drinking with us in the club, he ran into her and wanted to take her up again. This time she reduced the rate to $110 with no mentioning of time. He humped her and popped 3 times over 3 hours, past the end of her shift, security was knocking on door looking for her.
She had to fly back to GDL to sign some legal papers Tuesday, but wanted to see him again after that. She seemed to like him a lot, texted him 4 times Wednesday. He was delaying answering, not committing, but very excited to go back this weekend to shack up with her. Unlike with other girls, he seems to be in love with this one.
Getting 6 hours romantic and sexual company with a hot girl for $230 is an exceptionally good deal. Other wingmen also got similarly good deals. Some, even with zero Spanish skill, visited hot young girls in their hometowns and got the full BF treatments without money compensation. A wingman took a HK girl to Cabo for 4 days. Next week she declared she was pregnant and forbade him from any contact with other HK girls.
There was lots of love, sex, passion, emotion between these couples even with very limited verbal communication, primarily via Translate, which seems funny to me. A wingman even flew down to LOS Mochis multiple times to pursue a HK blonde, waiting around for her for days, while El Chapo was hiding there and armed cartels guys were shooting, murdering each other all over the city every day. He was very serious, wanted to marry her. A hot HK girl said she got marriage proposals from 5 guys the same night, some even came with rings hehe. Take a guess at the demographics of these love-smitten guys.
A few very pretty, fun, spinners want to go on vacation with me to fun, exotic places, like Cancun and Mexico City, where they have never been, or visits to their home towns. Some were open and honest, wanted to discuss compensation for days off work. All kinds of deals can be made to keep all parties happy and sexy.
By the time she agreed to $100 I lost my interest..By the time she says $150.00 all communications would stop with me. Say "Eres loca" turn and leave.
I was there for July 4th night. The air was toxic from animosity emanating from the girls. Tense, ugly and negative. Not again. Monday to Wed and get out on Thur morning.
Captain Solo
07-08-24, 15:47
Just about all HK girls now quote $150. You would be dropping 98% of them at the first pass. Ballers even reported girls starting with $250, one with $500. You might have a heart attack.
Girls all expect counter offers. I would dicker with them to feel their attitudes. If they act disappointed and refuse to negotiate, I would drop them and move on to the next. They usually turn into nasty girls in bed. Those act nice and fun with flexible attitudes usually provide good sessions.
Obi Wan would negotiate nicely but with firm terms, without even sitting the girls down and buying fichas. He bagged a hot girl for $35. Last Monday he bagged a hot Sharon Stone clone for 6 hours of actions for total $230.
I usually buy a ficha to feel up the assets, try to kiss, grope, suck tits ect to weed them out and avoid nasty scenes in bed. Then I would act shocked and claim only $100 left. Most would eventually go with it. Have not had bad sessions in a few years. The last 5 HK girls were beautiful, loving and sexy, worth the time and money.
If a girl quotes $150, I think it's kind of rare if she stands firm. I have only had one girl stand firm and another one was willing to drop to $140. I basically told both of them to take a hike.
The quote I have been hearing lately for whatever reason is $130, multiple times. A little more reasonable but I would still try to get it in the 100-120 range with negotiations. My best option in the past couple of years with girls I have never banged before is to take them arriba with no discussion of a quote at all. Don't remember if I said it here or somewhere else, but in those occasions a girl will usually accept whatever you give them as long as it's a respectable amount. Again, the 100-120 range, with 120 going to the girls who do an excellent job. In those occasions I would consider the extra 20 a tip. I have never had a single complaint doing it that way.
Captain Solo
07-08-24, 19:56
After buying fichas and weeding out HK girls with bad attitudes and are resistant to sex and love, I have not had bad sessions with HK girls in years. All sessions were above average in satisfying my needs and wants, a few were nice, sweet, sexy, outstanding in bed, worth repeating and taking on vacations.
I drive down with wingmen, also meet up with a few guys I met previously in HK. They are fun to hang out with.
Comparing to bar and gogo girls in Thailand and the Phil, sessions with HK girls have been much nicer, sweeter, sexier, costs are cheaper even without factoring in airfares, lodging and travel time ect. Most HK girls are pretty nice and honest, also look and feel appealing and sexy in the international model scale. In opposite, bar and gogo girls in Bangkok and Pattaya look ordinary, homely, plasticky, over made up with ridiculous fake boobs, fake butts, phony and far more mercenary attitudes; some can be very rude.
Bangkok massages, even the top-notch Poseidon in Huay Khwang, have only average-looking women. I just hate their organized crimes links and the damp, warm, musty air and massages. Thermae women are old and chunky, hiding their droopy boobs and saggy buts in loose clothings but manipulative with haughty attitudes and high prices, only meek Japanese can put up with their stupid games. Thaifriendly are mostly bar girls and hookers, some preops, postop trannies, want you to go to their bars and spend money on them. Smooci, the most popular escort site in Thailand and Asia, posts fake old pics and sends ridiculously old, ugly, worn down druggies. I was disgusted.
OTOH I had very good sessions with FIWFANS girls in Bangkok, all nice, clean hot young girls. They cater to local guys, charge only 1,000 to 2000 bahts ($30-50) for hot sessions full of good, sexy feelings with DFK, BBBJ, 69, DATY, CFS ect. I would use as much public transportation as possible, MTR, BTS, buses, cruise on klong water taxis, ride or walk to their hotels, immersing in and enjoying life like locals. Thanks a lot for FIWFANS intels from wingman Sinfully Korean. Here are pics of Nong Nicha, a beautiful, fun, personable, English-speaking girl off Sukhumvit 55. She would spend all day on a date for $250.
Thailand is nice, clean, safe, people warm, fun, friendly, helpful, overall the best exotic location for good food, entertainment, girls, culture, history, sight seeing ect if you have 2 to 3 weeks to spend on the road. Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, Phil, Indonesia, Japan, Korea are far less fun than Thailand. Couple wingmen and I tentatively plan a road trip through S E Asia in Sept. Anybody planning to be there, may be fun to hook up.
If a girl quotes $150, I think it's kind of rare if she stands firm. I have only had one girl stand firm and another one was willing to drop to $140. I basically told both of them to take a hike.
The quote I have been hearing lately for whatever reason is $130, multiple times. A little more reasonable but I would still try to get it in the 100-120 range with negotiations. My best option in the past couple of years with girls I have never banged before is to take them arriba with no discussion of a quote at all. Don't remember if I said it here or somewhere else, but in those occasions a girl will usually accept whatever you give them as long as it's a respectable amount. Again, the 100-120 range, with 120 going to the girls who do an excellent job. In those occasions I would consider the extra 20 a tip. I have never had a single complaint doing it that way.Every summer the gals tries to form their own cartel and push prices up. Then Fall comes and kids are back in school and moms come to Tijuana to work, and the cartel breaks down.
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Saw this girl there last night.
If a girl quotes $150, I think it's kind of rare if she stands firm. I have only had one girl stand firm and another one was willing to drop to $140. I basically told both of them to take a hike.
The quote I have been hearing lately for whatever reason is $130, multiple times. A little more reasonable but I would still try to get it in the 100-120 range with negotiations. My best option in the past couple of years with girls I have never banged before is to take them arriba with no discussion of a quote at all. Don't remember if I said it here or somewhere else, but in those occasions a girl will usually accept whatever you give them as long as it's a respectable amount. Again, the 100-120 range, with 120 going to the girls who do an excellent job. In those occasions I would consider the extra 20 a tip. I have never had a single complaint doing it that way.Terrible advise, everybody knows that if you don't settle on a price before going upstairs you're asking for trouble, a lot of horror stories in this forum about women demanding ridiculous amounts of money after the service just becase the price wasn't agreed before the act.
LuvMexicanas
07-09-24, 04:23
Captain said, "Have not had bad sessions in a few years" Aren't you the guy who every few months fiercely complains about dead fish rotten pussies?
Terrible advise, everybody knows that if you don't settle on a price before going upstairs you're asking for trouble, a lot of horror stories in this forum about women demanding ridiculous amounts of money after the service just becase the price wasn't agreed before the act.Agree, that was terrible advice! You must establish what you expect and the price before leaving the booth. If not, too many things could go wrong!
Terrible advise, everybody knows that if you don't settle on a price before going upstairs you're asking for trouble, a lot of horror stories in this forum about women demanding ridiculous amounts of money after the service just becase the price wasn't agreed before the act.Well I strongly disagree that this is terrible advice especially since I can't even remember the last time I brought up the price to a girl before going up. Maybe over 10 years, and I have never once had a girl say anything about being upset with what I paid. Now if you don't know Spanish and don't buy any drinks for the girls you might not want to try this. I usually have a few drinks with the girls so it's not just a business transaction to them. That's why I never bring up going to the room and don't get involved with discussing how they got in the business and things like that. Let them bring up the room and talk about normal things with them like a girl you would meet at some friends party or something.
If a guy is taken advantage by a girl up in the room I'the say 9 out of 10 times is because he has poor judgment on choosing girls and came off as a weak person that the girl knows she can take advantage of. Also I only put so much belief into some of the sob stories I hear guys on this board talk about how some girl took advantage of them because they are just telling one side of the story and often it's the guys that are trying to take a dog the girls.
Well I strongly disagree that this is terrible advice especially since I can't even remember the last time I brought up the price to a girl before going up. Maybe over 10 years, and I have never once had a girl say anything about being upset with what I paid. Now if you don't know Spanish and don't buy any drinks for the girls you might not want to try this..This is interesting. You did mention that you buy fechas. Thanks, that is the key point. For someone like me who never buys fechas price negotiation is important. Your way may work with the way you do it. I believe you.
Once a girls says $150 after our fun banter then everything sours. I get $120 to the most part. I tell them cien + propina. I had a lot of girls agree, a lot. About 4 girls went to the no no zone of $150 and I shut down like a blink, even though they want to continue the fun vibe.
Agree, that was terrible advice! You must establish what you expect and the price before leaving the booth. If not, too many things could go wrong!
Terrible advise, everybody knows that if you don't settle on a price before going upstairs you're asking for trouble, a lot of horror stories in this forum about women demanding ridiculous amounts of money after the service just becase the price wasn't agreed before the act.I was only mentioning what has worked for me in particular. I certainly don't advise everyone to go around doing that until you have a good routine down pat with the chicas. As Sol12 concurred, the no negotiation method can certainly work. If you feel more comfortable doing it another way, do what feels best for you. Once girls started quoting higher than $100 I ditched negotiations for the most part because haggling with a girl over pricing puts a damper on things. You get better results when things unravel in a natural manner.
Taking my bisexual stripper loving girlfriend to Tijuana for a couple days and was wondering if HK allows you, as a couple, to take one of the girls arriba.
And if not at the HK then do any of the other popular places allow? I did some searching but all the reports I found were quite dated.
Thanks in advance.
I was in Tijuana a couple of years ago for their Independence Day and I believe the night before around the red light district their was a bunch of cars driving around honking their horns at night. It seemed like a little parade of cars that civilians did on their own. Does that happen every year?
This is interesting. You did mention that you buy fechas. Thanks, that is the key point. For someone like me who never buys fechas price negotiation is important. Your way may work with the way you do it. I believe you.I agree 100% that price & services must be fully negotiated before the first session.
But, after you are both happy with one or more sessions and you are merely repeating the same session I see no need to re-negotiate. The assumption is same service and same price.
I never negotiate with my gal Karumi. (she has raised price on me a couple of times since Covid with advanced notice).
Dcrist0527
07-12-24, 02:39
Well I strongly disagree that this is terrible advice especially since I can't even remember the last time I brought up the price to a girl before going up. Maybe over 10 years, and I have never once had a girl say anything about being upset with what I paid. Now if you don't know Spanish and don't buy any drinks for the girls you might not want to try this. I usually have a few drinks with the girls so it's not just a business transaction to them. That's why I never bring up going to the room and don't get involved with discussing how they got in the business and things like that. Let them bring up the room and talk about normal things with them like a girl you would meet at some friends party or something.
If a guy is taken advantage by a girl up in the room I'the say 9 out of 10 times is because he has poor judgment on choosing girls and came off as a weak person that the girl knows she can take advantage of. Also I only put so much belief into some of the sob stories I hear guys on this board talk about how some girl took advantage of them because they are just telling one side of the story and often it's the guys that are trying to take a dog the girls.Excellent, excellent points, Sol. More often than not, this is my approach. And I think you explain it very well. What you are describing is less transactional than most. In my opinion, the risk is there but minimized by the fact you interview the girl (in a friendly manner) and develop a rapport. Important, of course, to be capable of assessing the chica. But in my experience, this leads to mutual respect and unless you can't identify bad apples, no one trying to screw the other over. This is a bad analogy, and not really something I'd advise. But I never confirm a taxi price before I get in the taxi. I pay them what I think the fare is. And only once has it bitten me. And I don't overpay. I read what people pay taxis and chuckle. Bad analogy but it's actually the same principle. Act like a gringo and you'll be treated like a gringo. I'm not slamming guys for not taking this approach. There's an efficiency to meet girl, agree on price and go arriba. And some guys have no interest in having a drink with the girls. No problem. But that is a transaction. I'm not knocking that approach but don't be surprised when the chica treats it like a transaction, too.
BrotherMouzone
07-12-24, 03:11
I was in Tijuana a couple of years ago for their Independence Day and I believe the night before around the red light district their was a bunch of cars driving around honking their horns at night. It seemed like a little parade of cars that civilians did on their own. Does that happen every year?I think so, I witnessed it for the first time myself last September. Their Independence Day is like our July 4th except on steroids LOL. Took an Uber to a sporting event at an arena on Agua Caliente in Tijuana on their Independence Day. Got delayed a bit because there was a huge parade (cars, music bands, etc.) going down Agua Caliente at the time.
Came out of the sporting event a few hours later at night and basically saw what you're describing, a huge parade of cars driving down Agua Caliente in the direction of Zona Centro, many of them honking their horns. Decided to hop on the taxi de ruta to get back to my hotel at Hong Kong, which was maybe a mistake because of how jammed traffic was down Agua Caliente. On the ride there a bunch of cars honking horns, several with the drivers holding up a can of beer or whatever liquor they happened to be drinking, didn't seemed to even be worried about the possibility of policia, which I thought was amusing.
The traffic jams got worse within a mile of Revolucion (which is where most people were headed that night) so pretty much everyone got out of the taxi at that point and walked the rest of the way to Revolucion. Revolucion was actually blocked off due I think a concert and maybe the mayor of Tijuana speaking down there later that night. They had it set up where you had to form a line to enter the Revolucion area and that line was literally several (at least 7-8 blocks, probably more) long. So I had to go a block over and walk the rest of the way to HK.
But it seemed literally the entire city of Tijuana was either already in or headed to the Revolucion area to party, I think that's a thing they do down in that area every year. A couple of the regulars I have weren't around that night to go to whatever was going on down on Revolucion. Seemed like a great time, I might check it out again this coming September.
Taking my bisexual stripper loving girlfriend to Tijuana for a couple days and was wondering if HK allows you, as a couple, to take one of the girls arriba.
And if not at the HK then do any of the other popular places allow? I did some searching but all the reports I found were quite dated.
Thanks in advance.I have never had an issue doing it at HK. I have only done so when I have my own room for the night though. Not sure how it works if you try for the 30 minute rooms. They might try to charge you double the normal fee since it's 2 of you, but perhaps not. It should only be double if you take 2 on duty girls up.
DonCarlos1234
07-12-24, 10:11
Getting 6 hours romantic and sexual company with a hot girl for $230 is an exceptionally good deal.Only because I am stupid and there is no beach in Medellin. I passed on 9 evenings together doing tours, with sex on tap and a blonde 23 year old talented Colombian. She is top 10 of all girls I've ever met. Was giving her (she didn't ask for it) $300 and airfare. I had a ticket for14 day booking. Which all in cost around $2,500 dollars and decided to cancel for seeing the Baja beaches and hktj instead. After reading the current posts about prices (double Colombia with maybe less talent) I guess I will reschedule Columbia ASAP (sorry Drama) and hope she still has feelings for me. Ahhh but I need to see the ocean first. Probably Sunday. - till who knows. This is what happens when you see too many women, get older, sophisticated and boring.
Captain Solo
07-12-24, 16:53
Obi Wan went home with me on Wednesday. Blonde girl texted him, kept in touch.
Unlike previous trips when he would stay off Tijuana for couple weeks, next Sunday he rode down by himself on the train in the morning, had lunch on Rizo's balcony, waiting for the blonde. R2 D2 was there with his GF. He stayed with her the whole week in Rizo. They were having lunch, DFKing on the breezy balcony, the same girl he took to Cabo for 4 days for $300. Next week she claimed pregnancy after screwing him BB for over a year.
Obi Wan went back to his room in Cascada, waited for his girl to arrive. This time he brought down 3 bottles of champagne and 1 red wine.
She went to his room in the afternoon. Obi Wan said they had sex nonstop for about 3 hours. She popped 6 times. She got so weak after that she could not stand up. He had to take her to the emergency clinic where she was given intravenous fluids.
He said he gave her only $200. Back home, after many texts from her, he said she's in love with him. Now he has to stay away from her for a while to prevent developing feelings for her. He got a very lucky deal with this hot girl. FYI he speaks fluent Spanish.
But, after you are both happy with one or more sessions and you are merely repeating the same session I see no need to re-negotiate. The assumption is same service and same price.This is universal I believe. You don't negotiate with your repeat girl let alone your regular one. That is just odd. We were talking about girls you meet for the first time, or at least I assumed that.
Cocr Brotheler
07-15-24, 05:42
Sounded like a match made in heaven hehehehehe.
Why not just 'settle' with a chica? I never been in that case since constrained by $ and have never been able to frequent one location enough and long enough to get attached.
Life is short and pumping and dumping chicas how feminism started USA, Canada and Europe etc.
Sounded like a match made in heaven hehehehehe.
Why not just 'settle' with a chica? .......Last week I banged this 22 yr old 9. I thought to myself I'd love to live with this chica, I'd never get fed up screwing her. I'm 48 years older than her, what could go wrong?
Passed through last night on a short scouting trip. No ATF's were around so it made it easier to keep an eye on newer talent. Unfortunately it seemed pretty slow for a Sunday night. Eventually spotted a girl I made a mental note on from a previous trip because she seemed a little wild. I let her pass by me while I was sitting down figuring I would be able to track her down a little later. About a half hour later I saw her sitting down with a couple friends but before I could approach her another girl approached me. She was pretty cute so I bought her a couple fichas. I thought she was around 22 years old but she showed me her ID to prove she was actually 29, I couldn't believe it! She's brunette, all natural with a BDSM get up, goes by Candy. She gave me a lap dance and quoted me $100 flat, which was refreshing to hear nowadays. Since I didn't have my own room for the night I told her I would catch her around some other day. She's says she's into girls as well so maybe I'll get her together with another one on a future visit.
I think so, I witnessed it for the first time myself last September. Their Independence Day is like our July 4th except on steroids LOL. Took an Uber to a sporting event at an arena on Agua Caliente in Tijuana on their Independence Day. Got delayed a bit because there was a huge parade (cars, music bands, etc.) going down Agua Caliente at the time.
Came out of the sporting event a few hours later at night and basically saw what you're describing, a huge parade of cars driving down Agua Caliente in the direction of Zona Centro, many of them honking their horns. Decided to hop on the taxi de ruta to get back to my hotel at Hong Kong, which was maybe a mistake because of how jammed traffic was down Agua Caliente. On the ride there a bunch of cars honking horns, several with the drivers holding up a can of beer or whatever liquor they happened to be drinking, didn't seemed to even be worried about the possibility of policia, which I thought was amusing.
The traffic jams got worse within a mile of Revolucion (which is where most people were headed that night) so pretty much everyone got out of the taxi at that point and walked the rest of the way to Revolucion. Revolucion was actually blocked off due I think a concert and maybe the mayor of Tijuana speaking down there later that night. They had it set up where you had to form a line to enter the Revolucion area and that line was literally several (at least 7-8 blocks, probably more) long. So I had to go a block over and walk the rest of the way to HK.
But it seemed literally the entire city of Tijuana was either already in or headed to the Revolucion area to party, I think that's a thing they do down in that area every year. A couple of the regulars I have weren't around that night to go to whatever was going on down on Revolucion. Seemed like a great time, I might check it out again this coming September.Was this during the day of Independence or the night before?
Was this during the day of Independence or the night before?It was definitely the night before because they do the celebration on the 15th with the "Gritó" at 10 pm and the party goes on all night.
On the 16th nothing much happens besides a parade in the morning but most people are sleeping and getting over their hangover. They don't call it "DIA de cruda" for nothing.
BrotherMouzone
07-16-24, 05:09
Was this during the day of Independence or the night before?Apologies, in looking back to double check what I experienced was actually the night before (Friday, September 15 last year). That was the date of the event I went to on Agua Caliente. There was so much going on and everything was so lively that I assumed Mexican Independence Day was that day but I guess technically it was the next day (September 16). But traditionally they do start all the festivities the night before which I guess is why it was so lively.
I'm here at the club and I'm sick to my stomach. Seeing too many guys buying girls drink after drink without any physical contact between the two at all. If a girl isn't giving you any action by the 2nd drink, tell them to kick rocks fellas.
I'm here at the club and I'm sick to my stomach. Seeing too many guys buying girls drink after drink without any physical contact between the two at all. If a girl isn't giving you any action by the 2nd drink, tell them to kick rocks fellas.Do not worry about what others do with their money! If you feel sick, it is time to leave the mongering scene.
I'm here at the club and I'm sick to my stomach. Seeing too many guys buying girls drink after drink without any physical contact between the two at all. If a girl isn't giving you any action by the 2nd drink, tell them to kick rocks fellas.Same advise. Do not worry what others do and definitively do not get sick to your stomach about things unless directly affect you.
Last week I banged this 22 yr old 9. I thought to myself I'd love to live with this chica, I'd never get fed up screwing her. I'm 48 years older than her, what could go wrong?LOL. Go until you don't want.
While I was killing time waiting to meet a girl OTC, I spent a little more time in the club. Saw a very pretty girl dancing on the bar near the back and was curious as to how she was personality wise. When she got down she passed right by me so I gave her a tip and felt her up a little bit. She was even more pretty up close. Super light skinned, brown hair, slim, all natural with greyish-green eyes which she tells me are real. She says colored eyes run through one of her grandparents side of the family. She told me her name was Rosalin and is only a couple weeks into the job. She grinded on me a little bit and she asked me to buy her a beer so I did. A mesero grabbed a booth for us. I ended up buying her 2 beers and I shit you guys not, she made those two last for damn near an hour. She was very touchy feely and gave me light kisses. Said she would give me more if I took her arriba. I told her I was actually waiting on another girl but that she was welcomed to join us if she also liked girls. Unfortunately she said she doesn't, so I told her no worries and that threesomes weren't any good if both girls weren't into it. This transitioned into a conversation about how three white military guys took her arriba this past weekend. I asked if she had ever done anything like that before and she said never. I asked how it went and she said ok and that they paid her very well because she told them she didn’t do that kind of stuff and they told her to name her price so she did and surprisingly they agreed. She said they weren't rough with her so it wasn't too bad. Also apparently she only ended up banging two of them because the other one couldn't get it up and his buddies started calling him a fag LOL.
She told me she just got out of a seven year relationship and will only be at HK for the month of July. She's still pondering whether to continue in this line of work or not. I asked if her ex knew what she was doing for work nowadays and she said no. I joked that she should tell him she got gangbanged by a group of American military guys which made her choke on her beer LOL. She said no way and that she would never tell anyone back home what she was up to. Eventually I got a text from the girl I was waiting on so I told Rosalin I had to get going and told her too bad she wasn't into other girls so she could come along but that I would catch her around next time. She's a super cool girl and very pretty. Model quality for sure. Someone is going to snatch this girl up and take her out of the business in no time.
Cocr Brotheler
07-17-24, 05:09
Last week I banged this 22 yr old 9. I thought to myself I'd love to live with this chica, I'd never get fed up screwing her. I'm 48 years older than her, what could go wrong?I like that a lot!
She told me she just got out of a seven year relationship and will only be at HK for the month of July. She's still pondering whether to continue in this line of work or not. I asked if her ex knew what she was doing for work nowadays and she said no.I believe none of this story of hers but would let it go to get the vibe going.
I like that a lot!I love gourmet food, I love fine wine, I would love a megayacht, I would love a luxurious mansion but what I love the most is a 22 yr old 9 or 10.
AmericanPi
07-17-24, 14:59
I love gourmet food, I love fine wine, I would love a megayacht, I would love a luxurious mansion but what I love the most is a 22 yr old 9 or 10.You joke. But let me be totally honest here. I love good food and wine too. But many of the other trappings of wealth. The car, the clothes, etc. Those were all always about getting girls. Once I discovered seeking I realized my money was better spent just paying the girls directly. I never in a million years thought I'd be so regularly banging 18-23 year old girls with so little effort or emotional commitment. This is gods country right here.
Captain Solo
07-17-24, 15:33
Different guys enjoy company of bar girls in different ways, verbal, love, physical, sexual, anal ect.
Some grown men cannot speak any Spanish, but get infatuated with ugly HK sharks. One was short stripper, big fake boobs, big fake butt, she cannot walk straight. He had to rely on his ISG wingman to translate, but was in love, posted daily updates about his alleged relationship with her. She knew how to put hooks into him.
His ISG wingman was hooked on another ugly HK shark, spent everything he had, took out loans and cash from his credit cards to buy her drinks, emergency loans ect. When he completely ran out of money, behind in rent and food, he rode down with me a couple times, hangout in HK. I had to give him money to tip her. But when she knew he was out of money, she forgot who he was, too busy hooking other guys, not even looking at him in the club.
Many guys operate entirely at emotional level with club girls, pretty or ugly, nice or nasty. You can try but it's difficult to talk sense to them and change their behavior. Like compulsive gamblers, they want the excitements betting everything they have for the big win, either the jack pot or the love of the girls, they already bought and paid for companionship and sex with the girls, but they want more from the girls, may be love, exclusivity, commitment, devotion.
A few wingmen understood they were manipulated by putas, even asked me to stop them from going over board, but it's very hard to reason or argue with fools in love and lust. Just stand off, watch their stupid moves and have some fun. Like trying to stop a thirsty guy in the desert from drinking water. Any intervention would not work, only makes you unpopular and hated. Just stand back, understand stupid character faults in others and try to protect yourself. Resist manipulations. Make sure nobody takes you for a fool and tries to take all your assets and dignity.
Along with a few other wingmen, I did send money to a few girls who were literally starving during CoVid. It was entirely humanitarian relief for someone in dire needs, not expecting anything in return. But I got the purest love and affection since. I give some of my money to worthwhile charities, but will not be manipulated into giving free money to putas.
Here's a nice, sweet, fun, sexy girl, always hand propped my crank shaft in the club, tried to get it hard so I have to go to the room to do the sexiest things. But she knew not to bullshit me, always fair deals.
LuvMexicanas
07-17-24, 19:39
You joke. But let me be totally honest here. I love good food and wine too. But many of the other trappings of wealth. The car, the clothes, etc. Those were all always about getting girls. Once I discovered seeking I realized my money was better spent just paying the girls directly. I never in a million years thought I'd be so regularly banging 18-23 year old girls with so little effort or emotional commitment. This is gods country right here.And there's Tinder and not paying the girls at all.
AmericanPi
07-18-24, 14:46
His ISG wingman was hooked on another ugly HK shark, spent everything he had, took out loans and cash from his credit cards to buy her drinks, emergency loans ect. When he completely ran out of money, behind in rent and food, he rode down with me a couple times, hangout in HK. I had to give him money to tip her. But when she knew he was out of money, she forgot who he was, too busy hooking other guys, not even looking at him in the club.
.This legit made me sad to read. Not because she ghosted him when he was out of money. More because he put himself in financial purgatory for an HK girl. It wasn't your responsibility to stop a grown man from doing what he's going to do. You don't own this. But taking out loans and maxing credit cards and missing rent to send money to an HK girl? That's a special level of needing help and I'm not sure that's a person ready to receive help. It's so irrational with failure being the obvious destination. There's no way it ends well.
Hi everyone,
I now live in New Jersey, call it New York, where I spend most of my time. I am looking to take my first mongering trip since moving to USA but for all the options available, can't seem to decide where I should visit. I am posting this here, as Tijuana, Hong Kong seems to be my number option at the moment. Just hoping someone experienced can guide me and Ofcourse, I will write a detailed report post my expiditions.
What I am looking for is a 3/4 get away. I love Latin woman and had a great time in Brazil (before I had even discovered ISG).
I love kissing and Latin woman somehow are the most sensual and great kissers.
I am looking for something safe, where I can chill and have a good time with a few different girls or may be even have someone for the entire day.
I like the it all- 20's,30's,40's,50's- don't care so much about the age, as long as they are pretty and clean. Petite / Curvy- I like them all, beautiful face, good kissers- girl friend experience, I am sucker- am easy to please!
I just need your help in deciding, what would be the best first time travel spot for me, out of the options in the title.
So far Tijauana is number one followed by San Salvado, I want to say Medellin but it just feels very unsafe based on recent reports.
How much should I budget for my first trip. Say if I want to enjoy 3/4 ladies over 3 days?
Any places to enjoy milfs?
There are a lot of reports but perhaps been a while, these are catered towards new travellers in the region, hopefully your response will help others like me and I will revert with a detailed report post my trip in September.
Thanks in anticipation of your help.
I have enjoyed the most in Dubai and Brazil- Dubai is more Russian and Middle Eastern beauties and I like the club scene. Brazil just has a special place in my heart, I lived there for 6 months and had a blast! If you need any information about those places please let me know.
StubbornMule
07-19-24, 06:39
You joke. But let me be totally honest here. I love good food and wine too. But many of the other trappings of wealth. The car, the clothes, etc. Those were all always about getting girls. Once I discovered seeking I realized my money was better spent just paying the girls directly. I never in a million years thought I'd be so regularly banging 18-23 year old girls with so little effort or emotional commitment. This is gods country right here.How much do you pay to see a girl on Seeking? Also, are you using it in the USA or in Mexico?
Approaching mongering from an emotional state of mind is just wrong. The working women, the mass majority of them, are hustling to make a living. There is an underlying lack of other attractive options that floats the boat for the women, so they hustle. The zona venues are grounds where the women smoke the hive and harvest the honey. Why would any guy fall in love with these women.
Anyway, it is something I could never understand. To me it is always a financial transaction to fulfill a need, the ultimate goal one is to maximize my pleasure for the buck I spend.
Captain Solo
07-19-24, 17:11
The 2 guys I know think and act like Compulsive and Degenerative Gamblers. They kept losing but kept betting everything they had for a big win.
One guy paid the HK puta big money every visit, everything he had on him, emptying himself out, to prove his love and devotion to her. Then he ate her culo until she came multiple pops. Her pleasures were his main pleasure in life. His lips, face and whole body turned yellowish, dark brown, black. His lips turned dark brown. He was always sick. It was obvious he got infected with Hepatitis be or see. I have not heard from him a couple years. He probably died.
My neighbor contracted Hep c from his sex partner, could not stand an experimental therapy. The partner died within 3 years. He died a year later.
Degenerative gamblers will gamble everything they have, borrowing from loan sharks and mobs, risking everything including their lives, for that potential instant gratification. If you see any symptom of this addiction in your relationships, seek help from family, friends, professionals, Gamblers Anonymous ect. I don't know much about this subject, not that I know who or what can help, just raising the alarm.
Cocr Brotheler
07-20-24, 05:51
This is why you know the caca and the orifice it comes from are so very smelly and vile and thus by nature a warming that they are very unhealthy / dangerous!
I could never understand why gay men want to plow up into poo holes gross. Even with condoms so messy, same for men on women.
I was with a chica in Costa Rica in May and she wanted me to touch / caress her bung hole. Sorry Ma'am I not like that.
This is why you know the caca and the orifice it comes from are so very smelly and vile and thus by nature a warming that they are very unhealthy / dangerous!
I could never understand why gay men want to plow up into poo holes gross. Even with condoms so messy, same for men on women.
I was with a chica in Costa Rica in May and she wanted me to touch / caress her bung hole. Sorry Ma'am I not like that.Recently I was ploughing a beauty in doggy and spied her anus pulsing with each stroke. It looked incredibly sexy. To enter it with my penis would have been terribly unkind due to my girth. However, I did interrupt the banging to insert my tongue. Was I too naughty?
This is why you know the caca and the orifice it comes from are so very smelly and vile and thus by nature a warming that they are very unhealthy / dangerous!
I could never understand why gay men want to plow up into poo holes gross. Even with condoms so messy, same for men on women.
I was with a chica in Costa Rica in May and she wanted me to touch / caress her bung hole. Sorry Ma'am I not like that.I can't lie there were multiple times I slobbered on that buttoned hole when I get in that mood and the vibe is heated, also when I sense the girl is clean.
I have to tell you once upon a time many years ago in an AMP with a Viet girl, I dipped it in there and came a bulb of excrement out together with my Mboro, room filled with a hellish odor, so I ran to the their bathroom and puked. Later Month same AMP another Viet girl wanted to experiment anal with me, she actually insisted I break her fear of it. She was clean but was not enjoyable for both of us. Like I said once in a while I like to munch on it but to do penetration sex, no, it doesn't feel good as it is grip-py and dry, not to mention the risk of HIV. I like the wet, warm, juicy panocha better.
That comment that some mongers approach this hobby from an emotional state mind hit me hard, I felt a dreadful sensation strike me down my spine. I can imagine it but still fear it. If only guys can train their minds that they are the catch in these whoring venues, not the other way around. Although, it is easier said than done.
It is almost like these phenomenon I read about called "paypigs" on youtube.
Cocr Brotheler
07-21-24, 05:49
Recently I was ploughing a beauty in doggy and spied her anus pulsing with each stroke. It looked incredibly sexy. To enter it with my penis would have been terribly unkind due to my girth. However, I did interrupt the banging to insert my tongue. Was I too naughty?Ewwwww LOL. To each whatever you like. There was poster I Juarez thread Hendey who I believe liked it but don't see any posts lately from him. I wonder if he got the hep see sickness that comes from the caca?
I'm still debating if I should fly to Tijuana for HK club or not. I have been there 5 times or so before and after pandemic. The girls were better from 2014 to 2018. I was able to find some good ones with no fillers tits. And there were not too many guys. I went there in 2023, there were just way too many guys. It's completely ruined. I think there are more guys in CA than girls, a lot more. For the rich ones got a few extra bucks, they probably moved to other states or just moved out of US with much lower living cost. Girls here in bay area are expensive and not much fun.
I'm checking HK clubs photos now, I don't find them all that much attractive to be honest. https://hktijuana.com/gallery.php.
I know they don't take photos for every girl there. Is it worth it to go. I thought we were going to a recession soon and we may have a good time again. I only like recession. However, I'm sure Trump will win so there will NOT be a recession.
Just debating now, maybe I will go to eastern europe and live there for a little bit.
Alladingold
07-22-24, 08:32
I love watching a fight and I love HK. So why not combine them. UFC 304 is on this Saturday the 27th. Anyone down to get a table and hang out with a couple of others to join? I am thinking to be there at 6 pm.
Captain Solo
07-22-24, 16:28
Zenduka,
Life is a constant gamble full of risks everywhere, everyday. The only way to not risking is to not living hehe. Life is full of temptations. No risks, no rewards. You have to be Bhudda to pass up temptations and give up all worldly, sexy ambitions every day in life.
Not all bar girls are the same.
What I observed among hot bar girls in HK and Tijuana, only a small percentage is ruthless sharks. They are heavy drugs addicts, like meth, who would do anything to feed their addictions. Most are at least addicted to marijuana. They would die for a reefer after sex.
The majority just wants fair, reasonable deals to feed their kids, some for their addictions.
A small minority is poor, fresh girls who have to work the bar trade to eat. Some could not make enough in bars, will settle for long term relationships in exchange for small supports for each occasional visit. Even with the language barrier, they would still deliver far more intimacy, true feelings, better sexual pleasures than the average empty, perfunctory, strictly physical sessions with bar girls. It's still transactional but both parties fill each other's needs, wants and have better personal attachment. My wingmen have been in these semi permanent relationships with girls for years. I prefer the novelties of new girls, new beauties, new personalities, new sex ect.
I had multi-day dates with girls in a few places, paying $25 to 250 per day. The pleasures were at many levels, physical, sexual, emotional, far more satisfying.
Keep shopping.
Captain Solo
07-22-24, 16:31
People in lust would do all kinds of filthy, sexy things with each other, not worrying about infections and diseases.
My neighbors were on a cruise to Ensenada, took a beach excursion tour and swam in the ocean. The whole family got vomit, stomach cramp, diarrhea within a couple hours, dragged out for a week, symptoms of hepatitis infection, A be see or all of them. The only person without the symptoms did not get in the water. You know all major cities in Mexico dump their sewage into the ocean without any treatment. Coronado and Imperial beaches are brown with sewage from Tijuana and smell like shit.
Licking butt holes will definitely give you viral infections. Symptoms go away after a few days but the virus will stay in your liver. If you were previously infected with that exact Hepatitis virus strain you will have antibodies and not feel symptoms.
I'm still debating if I should fly to Tijuana for HK club or not. I have been there 5 times or so before and after pandemic. The girls were better from 2014 to 2018. I was able to find some good ones with no fillers tits. And there were not too many guys. I went there in 2023, there were just way too many guys. It's completely ruined. I think there are more guys in CA than girls, a lot more. For the rich ones got a few extra bucks, they probably moved to other states or just moved out of US with much lower living cost. Girls here in bay area are expensive and not much fun.
I'm checking HK clubs photos now, I don't find them all that much attractive to be honest. https://hktijuana.com/gallery.php.
I know they don't take photos for every girl there. Is it worth it to go. I thought we were going to a recession soon and we may have a good time again. I only like recession. However, I'm sure Trump will win so there will NOT be a recession.
Just debating now, maybe I will go to eastern europe and live there for a little bit.For a easy quick get away Tijuana can't be beat. From the bay it's a easy flight. Why not check it out over a weekend?
I'm still debating if I should fly to Tijuana for HK club or not. I have been there 5 times or so before and after pandemic. The girls were better from 2014 to 2018. I was able to find some good ones with no fillers tits. And there were not too many guys. I went there in 2023, there were just way too many guys. It's completely ruined. I think there are more guys in CA than girls, a lot more. For the rich ones got a few extra bucks, they probably moved to other states or just moved out of US with much lower living cost. Girls here in bay area are expensive and not much fun.
I'm checking HK clubs photos now, I don't find them all that much attractive to be honest. https://hktijuana.com/gallery.php.
I know they don't take photos for every girl there. Is it worth it to go. I thought we were going to a recession soon and we may have a good time again. I only like recession. However, I'm sure Trump will win so there will NOT be a recession.
Just debating now, maybe I will go to eastern europe and live there for a little bit.When are you going? HK is way, way better if you hit it up at off peak times-- there's a reason VIP gives 70% off on Monday / Tuesday hotel stays, there's far fewer mongers so they're trying to drum up business. But the girls don't just go home on Monday, most of them are still working. There's fewer girls in absolute terms, but the ratio is much more favorable. As far as finding them attractive, that's of course up to you; I tend to like skinny and petite, so I politely turn down the curvier or tall girls, but there's plenty of 100-110 pound spinners for your amusement.
That comment that some mongers approach this hobby from an emotional state mind hit me hard, I felt a dreadful sensation strike me down my spine. I can imagine it but still fear it. If only guys can train their minds that they are the catch in these whoring venues, not the other way around. Although, it is easier said than done.
It is almost like these phenomenon I read about called "paypigs" on youtube.Yeah, it's alien to me too. A huge part of the point of this exercise is that it inverts the dynamics of the conventional dating market, where women have all the power and are chased. She'll do what I like and she's easily replaceable if not; to be submissive to a hooker is unthinkable. Unless that's their fetish, I guess.
......Licking butt holes will definitely give you viral infections. Symptoms go away after a few days but the virus will stay in your liver. If you were previously infected with that exact Hepatitis virus strain you will have antibodies and not feel symptoms.If a ladies' man has been DATYing and licking butt holes for the past 50 years does he have Hep alphabet by now? LOL!
If a ladies' man has been DATYing and licking butt holes for the past 50 years does he have Hep alphabet by now? LOL!I would say he has a sweet tooth. LOL.
DonCarlos1234
07-24-24, 02:37
I'm still debating if I should fly to Tijuana for HK club or not. I have been there 5 times or so before and after pandemic. The girls were better from 2014 to 2018. I was able to find some good ones with no fillers tits. And there were not too many guys. I went there in 2023, there were just way too many guys. It's completely ruined. I think there are more guys in CA than girls, a lot more. For the rich ones got a few extra bucks, they probably moved to other states or just moved out of US with much lower living cost. Girls here in bay area are expensive and not much fun.
I'm checking HK clubs photos now, I don't find them all that much attractive to be honest. https://hktijuana.com/gallery.php.
I know they don't take photos for every girl there. Is it worth it to go. I thought we were going to a recession soon and we may have a good time again. I only like recession. However, I'm sure Trump will win so there will NOT be a recession.
Just debating now, maybe I will go to eastern europe and live there for a little bit.Friday and Saturday HKTJ had nearly 300 girls. Their online photos look different than in person with makeup, lighting etc. And it's bad photography.
Out of those 300 I saw 30 or so worth looking at. Typical. I usually go to Colombia so it was a revisit to see how things are currently in Tijuana. I am glad I went. Girls are more expensive and a lot fewer 10's still there were enough for me to be interested in. 4 exactly. A little sticker shock considering the quality, they asked for $120 - $150 for 30 minutes. I have not asked the ones I am interested in so time will tell. I did use an escort agency. And found 1 very hot 9 street walker. That girl made the trip worthwhile! An 8 from the agency cost $140 for an hour. I am not complaining. The Tijuana hotels all cost $100+ and do not compare to a Colombian 4 Star like Dann Carlton. Yet spending a week in Tijuana will cost less than what I would have spent flying to Colombia.
Beach weather is good, too many tourists but I am still here so who knows what the future holds. Certainly not 118 F like back home.
AmericanPi
07-24-24, 03:12
For a easy quick get away Tijuana can't be beat. From the bay it's a easy flight. Why not check it out over a weekend?Especially if you can fly into Tijuana airport direct. It's actually a very good conveniently located hub.
What's the longest time anyone has spent in a city mongering on vacation?
What's the longest time anyone has spent in a city mongering on vacation?The longest I've spent in a single city is about a couple of weeks, but I've spent up to a month in a single country trying out multiple cities (from a few days up to a couple of weeks depending).
AmericanPi
07-24-24, 14:12
What's the longest time anyone has spent in a city mongering on vacation?For me 5 days. Tho there is a sort of obligatory, compulsory nature to it after a while. I planned girls each of the 5 days because I had 5 days. Day 1 is super awesome. By day 3 you get dick fatigue. By day 5 you just don't feel the same level of excitement. You've banged 15 times already and it's just a lot harder to get it up, and frankly to even want to.
What's the longest time anyone has spent in a city mongering on vacation?Three months, Sao Paulo, 2016.
DonCarlos1234
07-24-24, 19:43
Three months, Sao Paulo, 2016.2 weeks is Sao Paulo / Rio. I think that's a "normal" time to spend and wish I had stayed longer. Multiple 2 week+ visits to Bogota / Medellin. During pandemic 10 weeks. Tijuana a lot of 1 nighters. I lived in Rosarito then.
The longest I've spent in a single city is about a couple of weeks, but I've spent up to a month in a single country trying out multiple cities (from a few days up to a couple of weeks depending).And what country was that?
And what country was that?Brazil, Germany, Spain, Austria, Thailand, and the Philippines. Did it many times in Brazil, Germany, and Spain.
BrotherMouzone
07-24-24, 20:52
What's the longest time anyone has spent in a city mongering on vacation?I did 10 consecutive days in Tijuana between the HK and Adelitas hotels once a few years ago (pre-COVID), though I was back and forth between Tijuana and checking out sites in San Diego almost every day during that stay. My trips are typically between 3-5 days (I fly in from out of town).
Sunday night I was hanging out at HK for a little bit but not much was going on and didn't see any of my regulars on duty. So I headed over to Chicago hoping to find a couple other girls I have had my eye on, but no luck. Stuck around for several minutes in case a prospect emerged from the ashes but eventually my patience wore thin. I was crossing the street towards Gloria bar when I ran into 2 civilian girls at around 11 pm. One looked white, the other Latina, in their early to mid 20's. They asked if I was heading to HK and I asked why. They said they tried getting in but apparently they have to be accompanied by a guy in order for them to get in and asked if I would pose as their friend and walk in with them, so I figured why not since they were good looking. I mean I probably would have done it either way but it didn't hurt that they were good looking. They introduced themselves and said they were from the Bay Area. One of them said she used to be a stripper but that they're bottle service girls now at a nightclub. I asked what the hell they were doing in the zona by themselves and they laughed and said they weren't alone and that they came with a group of friends but somehow they ended up in Tropical instead and they broke away from the group because they were bored and their friends were acting like idiots. I got them inside HK and figured they would go off on their own once we got in, but they asked if I could show them around since it was their first time there. I asked if they were messing with me and they said no and that this was all new to them.
I took them around all over the club giving them all of my inside knowledge, answering all of their questions and they seemed fascinated by the place. They didn't even know HK had their own hotel. One of them suggested we sit by the main stage and watch the girls dance so we did that for a little while and ordered some tequila shots since that was their drink of choice. A girl with big fake tits and ass eventually got on stage and they started critiquing her and I could sense them getting a little bored. I suggested we go upstairs because they seemed to be setting up a lesbian foam show which piqued their interest. We grabbed a good spot to sit and took turns paying for rounds of more tequilas shots, so it all ended up evening out. Once the foam show got going the 2 girls on stage did me proud and were putting on an amazing show and were really going at it. The girls were in shock as to how far they were taking it as the dildos broke out. They were in even more shock when they saw guys tipping the girls and how they were able to fingerbang them and everything as if it was no big deal. They said they didn't know all of this stuff was allowed. I told them it was just another Sunday night at HK.
One of the girls noticed one of the other bar girls drinking with a guy at another table and she was giving him a lap dance. She asked how much was it for a girl to come over and dance for them as well and I said you just have to buy them a drink, that's all. No extra charge for the dance, it's pretty much up to the girl and whatever else she wants to do. This took them by surprise as well. When a girl they liked passed by later on they had me call her over and order her a drink so she could hang out with us. I told the girl this was their first time here and to show them a good time. Thankfully she was a cool girl, not uptight at all and ended up hanging out with us for a little over an hour. I think we only bought her a couple drinks the entire time but the girls were tipping her very well. Probably around $200 in total, which I told them they really didn't have to do, but they're used to spending this type of cash at American strip clubs so they didn't see it as a big deal. When the foam show was over one of the girls said they wanted to get up on stage and dance with our chica. The chica inquired about it to one of the stage hands to make sure it was ok and he said sure but only for a couple songs. The girl got on stage with her and took off her shorts and was dancing in her thong as me and her other friend threw 1's at them and some on lookers started tipping them as well. The other girl started feeling left out and was about to get on stage too, but then the HK guy said they had to wrap it up because he had to get a couple other working girls on stage. By now it was nearing 2 am and the girls said they had to get going because they were supposed to be heading back home soon and started getting calls from their friends who were still at Tropical and told them to meet there so they could take off. They gave me their numbers and Instagram so we could keep in touch because they said they want to come back and hang out again sometime before the summer is over. I told them I know several HK girls and could get them together to party at the club if they want to and they said for sure. I told them they should get a room at Cascadas or Rizo next time for a night so we could take the party back to our rooms if they would like to and they seemed to be into it. They didn't even know we could do that.
I wanted to share this story and give details but also didn't want to reveal too much because who knows if one of their guy friends somehow ends up reading this and one of them said she has a boyfriend but that they're on the outs right now so I don't want to get her in trouble or anything but they were really cool chicks and let me take pics and videos, as did they. The HK chica that hung out with us was cool with it as well as long as I sent her whatever I had through WhatsApp. A security guy only came over once to see what I was recording. He ended up making me delete it but didn't catch me any of the other times. The girls were snapping away as well and miraculously were never told anything.
Captain Solo
07-24-24, 23:03
That's a good fun time.
Too bad, you should have asked to take them to the hotel. They may have gone for it.
Next time.
Sunday night I was hanging out at HK for a little bit but not much was going on and didn't see any of my regulars on duty. So I headed over to Chicago hoping to find a couple other girls I have had my eye on, but no luck. Stuck around for several minutes in case a prospect emerged from the ashes but eventually my patience wore thin. I was crossing the street towards Gloria bar when I ran into 2 civilian girls at around 11 pm. One looked white, the other Latina, in their early to mid 20's. They asked if I was heading to HK and I asked why. They said they tried getting in but apparently they have to be accompanied by a guy in order for them to get in and asked if I would pose as their friend and walk in with them, so I figured why not since they were good looking. I mean I probably would have done it either way but it didn't hurt that they were good looking. They introduced themselves and said they were from the Bay Area. One of them said she used to be a stripper but that they're bottle service girls now at a nightclub. I asked what the hell they were doing in the zona by themselves and they laughed and said they weren't alone and that they came with a group of friends but somehow they ended up in Tropical instead and they broke away from the group because they were bored and their friends were acting like idiots. I got them inside HK and figured they would go off on their own once we got in, but they asked if I could show them around since it was their first time there. I asked if they were messing with me and they said no and that this was all new to them.
I took them around all over the club giving them all of my inside knowledge, answering all of their questions and they seemed fascinated by the place. They didn't even know HK had their own hotel. One of them suggested we sit by the main stage and watch the girls dance so we did that for a little while and ordered some tequila shots since that was their drink of choice. A girl with big fake tits and ass eventually got on stage and they started critiquing her and I could sense them getting a little bored. I suggested we go upstairs because they seemed to be setting up a lesbian foam show which piqued their interest. We grabbed a good spot to sit and took turns paying for rounds of more tequilas shots, so it all ended up evening out. Once the foam show got going the 2 girls on stage did me proud and were putting on an amazing show and were really going at it. The girls were in shock as to how far they were taking it as the dildos broke out. They were in even more shock when they saw guys tipping the girls and how they were able to fingerbang them and everything as if it was no big deal. They said they didn't know all of this stuff was allowed. I told them it was just another Sunday night at HK.
One of the girls noticed one of the other bar girls drinking with a guy at another table and she was giving him a lap dance. She asked how much was it for a girl to come over and dance for them as well and I said you just have to buy them a drink, that's all. No extra charge for the dance, it's pretty much up to the girl and whatever else she wants to do. This took them by surprise as well. When a girl they liked passed by later on they had me call her over and order her a drink so she could hang out with us. I told the girl this was their first time here and to show them a good time. Thankfully she was a cool girl, not uptight at all and ended up hanging out with us for a little over an hour. I think we only bought her a couple drinks the entire time but the girls were tipping her very well. Probably around $200 in total, which I told them they really didn't have to do, but they're used to spending this type of cash at American strip clubs so they didn't see it as a big deal. When the foam show was over one of the girls said they wanted to get up on stage and dance with our chica. The chica inquired about it to one of the stage hands to make sure it was ok and he said sure but only for a couple songs. The girl got on stage with her and took off her shorts and was dancing in her thong as me and her other friend threw 1's at them and some on lookers started tipping them as well. The other girl started feeling left out and was about to get on stage too, but then the HK guy said they had to wrap it up because he had to get a couple other working girls on stage. By now it was nearing 2 am and the girls said they had to get going because they were supposed to be heading back home soon and started getting calls from their friends who were still at Tropical and told them to meet there so they could take off. They gave me their numbers and Instagram so we could keep in touch because they said they want to come back and hang out again sometime before the summer is over. I told them I know several HK girls and could get them together to party at the club if they want to and they said for sure. I told them they should get a room at Cascadas or Rizo next time for a night so we could take the party back to our rooms if they would like to and they seemed to be into it. They didn't even know we could do that.
I wanted to share this story and give details but also didn't want to reveal too much because who knows if one of their guy friends somehow ends up reading this and one of them said she has a boyfriend but that they're on the outs right now so I don't want to get her in trouble or anything but they were really cool chicks and let me take pics and videos, as did they. The HK chica that hung out with us was cool with it as well as long as I sent her whatever I had through WhatsApp. A security guy only came over once to see what I was recording. He ended up making me delete it but didn't catch me any of the other times. The girls were snapping away as well and miraculously were never told anything.
HorseTrader
07-24-24, 23:06
What's the longest time anyone has spent in a city mongering on vacation?I've done 10 days in Tijuana, but I took one day in the middle to visit friends in LA. Several times I've done a week in Bangkok followed by a month traveling to various Thailand mongering destinations and then a final week in Bangkok.
I'm old and can only do about 30 sessions per month, my next trip may have to average less than one session per day. For me a mongering destination must offer something more than sex.
ABAJoeSmith123
07-25-24, 04:24
Wasn't expecting this. A long time HK chica I had been dating on and off finally left the club for good, moved back to sinaloa and won't be returning. I find out she's now hooked up with some guy she met in church, LOL. I wonder if this holy man realizes his lady has probably had sex with literally thousands of men over the last 5 years.
Either way, kinda interesting how a working girl now becomes in love with a church man. I will say the church man is one lucky duck to be with this smoking hot woman who I believe still has the best set of tits I've ever seen at HK to this very day.
I'm glad she finally found happiness even if she managed to take tons of money from me over the years, LOL.
LuvMexicanas
07-25-24, 06:47
Wasn't expecting this. A long time HK chica I had been dating on and off finally left the club for good, moved back to sinaloa and won't be returning. I find out she's now hooked up with some guy she met in church, LOL. I wonder if this holy man realizes his lady has probably had sex with literally thousands of men over the last 5 years.
Either way, kinda interesting how a working girl now becomes in love with a church man. I will say the church man is one lucky duck to be with this smoking hot woman who I believe still has the best set of tits I've ever seen at HK to this very day.
I'm glad she finally found happiness even if she managed to take tons of money from me over the years, LOL.Exactly how is he lucky if as you say she's been ran through by "literally thousands of men"? I don't judge because like I've said before prostitution is an honest living, but when it comes to a serious relationship most high value men would never settle for a woman who every guy with money has had a turn with.
After 7 days straight of mongering, when do you start to top off / loose enthusiasm. (Without viagra or any other supplements.).
Captain Solo
07-25-24, 17:10
Was in Hong Kong Sunday night with a couple wingmen.
We were sitting in a booth next to the stage in the middle of the club drinking. R2 D2 brought in his Tijuana GF to party, a young, pretty girl wearing eye classes. HK put a pink wrist band on her, denoting her as a female guest, not a bar girls. Her beers costed $6, same as guys', not the $11+ fichas. They went to a 4-night vacation in Cabo 2 weeks ago, when he gave her only a token compensation. She came back, declaring pregnancy, claiming exclusive ownership of him in Hong Kong. I did see her tummy get a little bigger hehe.
They used Azuls' 2-4-1 snack voucher to order a plate of French fries and a pepperoni pizza for the price of 1, like $11. The pizza was very cheesy and delish. We were drinking and eating the snack, watching sports on the big TV. Only 1 pizza slice was left sitting in the carton on the table. A lot of girls came in after 8, many new ones I had not known. A pair of hot young, light skin flacas were walking around the club, stopping at the stage watching a stripper. The shorter flaca quickly asked me if she could have the pizza slice, acting shy. I felt pretty bad that we had excess food on the table while these young girls were hungry. I quickly gave her the pizza carton, but she said, no, it's for her taller wing girl. Tall girl was too shy to ask, so she asked her friend to do it for her. I took tall girl's arm, pulled her into the booth and offered her the pizza. She gulped it down quickly, her arms and body moving to the music. Looked like she was hungry. I bought her a beer to go with it. She was so happy, smiling glowingly.
I was just sitting next to her, not making any move, not taking advantage of this poor, hungry girl. She said from Vera Cruz, just started in Hong Kong this weekend. As she was drinking the dark beer in a salted-rim glass, she was smiling sweetly, her eyes sparkling, hands started wandering, both long legs and creamy thighs moved over my thighs. She was looking deep into my eyes, seductive in innocent, childish ways. Soon I was embracing her, my hands caressing her bouncy, natural boobs. We were deep kissing. She was jacking my junior which was growing quickly. I was sucking on her tongue and lips, squeezing her young, supple body; my hands were all over her, squeezing her boobs, rubbing her tight crotch. Zhaggolo just flew in from out of state, sitting across the table, drinking, watching us with a sly smile.
We were both highly aroused, catching breaths in between deep, long kisses, huffing, puffing. She wanted to go to the hotel, asked for $100. I said, running low on money, gave her a lower offer which she quickly accepted. Looked like she was too horny she would have accepted any offer hehe. She took my hand, walked me through Las Chavelas to Cascada. She was slim and tall, like over 6 feet on heels. Guys were giving me thumbs up.
She was nice, clean with an incredible slim and tight natural body. She took a quick shower then we laid down in bed, caressing each other, our mouths glued together, hands jacking, rubbing, poking. I got extremely horny with a huge erection despite heavy drinking all night. She gave me a long BBBJ, seemed to relish it. I had to stop her from blowing my load prematurely. She got on top, stuck my hard dick inside her, doing a hard humping, huffing, puffing, occasionally stooping down to suck on my mouth. I had to ask her to slow down. Eventually I was on top, pumping her long and hard. She was moaning, breathing heavily, eyes wide open in ecstasy. It was a very sexy, energetic, satisfying session with a hot and very sweet girl. She posed for a couple sexy pics but refused to give me her tel, said phone was for family only.
We dressed up and got down to the street. I gestured to her to come in the bar for another beer, but 2 of her friends were already waiting at Chavelas' front door. She bid me good bye, walked with her friends in their flowing black robes down Coahuila towards the seafood taco stand on the corner. Looked like they were all hungry, waiting for her to make some money for dinner together.
It's safe to assume most HK girls are not making much or any money, go to work literally hungry, except the few hottest prima donnas. I sat with young girls who were so hungry, they quickly devour a whole pizza each. I just hate to eat by myself when people around me are hungry. If you order food, it's a nice, caring gesture to offer it to the girls around you, even before you dig in. Not all, but a few will take your offers. You will gain some good friendships, may be even love, and hot, passionate sessions with hot, sexy girls.
BrotherMouzone
07-25-24, 19:06
After 7 days straight of mongering, when do you start to top off / loose enthusiasm. (Without viagra or any other supplements.).Honestly only takes 3-4 days for me before I start to get sick of Tijuana and want to leave, LOL. When I was in my 20's my thought was if I could somehow buy out a room at Adelitas or Cascadas and actually live there for long stretches that would be like heaven on Earth but no way I think that now. Can only take Tijuana in moderation these days. There are legit addicts that post here who probably never lose the "enthusiasm" you speak of.
BrotherMouzone
07-25-24, 19:15
Wasn't expecting this. A long time HK chica I had been dating on and off finally left the club for good, moved back to sinaloa and won't be returning. I find out she's now hooked up with some guy she met in church, LOL. I wonder if this holy man realizes his lady has probably had sex with literally thousands of men over the last 5 years.
Either way, kinda interesting how a working girl now becomes in love with a church man. I will say the church man is one lucky duck to be with this smoking hot woman who I believe still has the best set of tits I've ever seen at HK to this very day.
I'm glad she finally found happiness even if she managed to take tons of money from me over the years, LOL.I'm always genuinely happy for the chicas who find their way out of that lifestyle. Many get stuck in it basically for life, but some are able to work their way out. Think I mentioned it previously in a post a while back but for those who watch boxing, Canelo Alvarez's most recent opponent (Jaime Munguia) is a Tijuana native who knocked up and married a chica from HK. He's a young guy, but is a multi-millionaire boxer who seems to have a good head on his shoulders (very mature for his age) and will make millions more throughout the rest of his career so the chica will be set for life. Good for her. Most of the regulars at HK that I fool around with know her and confirmed for me that she did used to work at HK.
Exactly how is he lucky if as you say she's been ran through by "literally thousands of men"? I don't judge because like I've said before prostitution is an honest living, but when it comes to a serious relationship most high value men would never settle for a woman who every guy with money has had a turn with.Reminds me of the quote. "How many times do you let a man spit in your sandwich before you say no to eating it?
That's a good fun time.
Too bad, you should have asked to take them to the hotel. They may have gone for it.
Next time.I wish I would have known you were there Sunday as well, I would have introduced you to them. Although it was around midnight, perhaps you had left by then.
Yeah, unfortunately their friends were waiting for them and they had to get going to beat the early Monday morning crowd at the border. If they had been free for the rest of the night then it definitely would have been interesting. Hopefully they come back sometime like they said to hang out again. I told one of my HK regulars about it the next day and she was bummed she wasn't on duty to meet them, she thought they were pretty from the videos I showed her.
It's safe to assume most HK girls are not making much or any money, go to work literally hungry, except the few hottest prima donnas. I sat with young girls who were so hungry, they quickly devour a whole pizza each. I just hate to eat by myself when people around me are hungry. If you order food, it's a nice, caring gesture to offer it to the girls around you, even before you dig in. Not all, but a few will take your offers. You will gain some good friendships, may be even love, and hot, passionate sessions with hot, sexy girls.A lot of girls are definitely not making as much money as most people assume. Even when they do make money, most chicks spend it as fast as they earn it, always in need of more.
Thank you for all the people who replied me. I can fly there on Sunday and take a little bit advantage of the Monday and Tuesday vip discount on their hotel but is it worth it? The bay area girls are expensive but some of them are very hot from southern america or eastern europe too. I kind of already have a plan to go to poland and then russia. Last year I stayed in Russia for 3. 5 months. It was good. Everything was cheap I like it a lot. But its getting harder and harder to get a visa now.
AmericanPi
07-26-24, 14:32
After 7 days straight of mongering, when do you start to top off / loose enthusiasm. (Without viagra or any other supplements.).I lose it after like day 3. I can go longer if I take a day off and start to miss it but I never do so on my 5 day trips, usually to Europe, I just end up petering out.
Captain Solo
07-26-24, 19:58
Bogota, Cartagena, Medellin, girls are ugly freaks, food terrible, murders and violent crimes rampant against mongers. I would not go to Colombia.
Mexico is better developed and more civilized than all those Central American countries. Their businesses are better organized. Tijuana's Red Light District is allegedly under protection both by AMLO's La Guardia Nacional and the cartels. Mongers are pretty safe. Girls in Tijuana are nice, clean, beautiful, in all sizes, shapes, colors, personalities, all centralized within walking distances in a small bar block in La Zona Norte. You can meet and bag a lot of hot girls without wasting time and effort moving around big cities from bars to bars.
From East Coast You can fly into San Diego International in about 5 hours, compared to 10-12 hours to Colombia.
Most Hong Kong and bars' girls will not kiss or only do light lip kissing. Goodgirls escorts all do DFK, BBBJ, likely BBFS is negotiable. Compared to other escort sites, Goodgirls show authentic pics. Its escorts are also nice, clean, young, in good shapes. Most will go to hotels in La Zona Norte. Fruit is the booker at Goodgirls.
Quite a few MILFs hang out in Las Pulgas on Ave Revo, sitting near the door with their buckets of beers, eyeing and trying to seduce guys. They may be older and chunkier than club girls but they are free and may be hornier and kinkier.
A few street girls also do DFK and BBFS, depending on your negotiation.
Hi everyone,
I now live in New Jersey, call it New York, where I spend most of my time. I am looking to take my first mongering trip since moving to USA but for all the options available, can't seem to decide where I should visit. I am posting this here, as Tijuana, Hong Kong seems to be my number option at the moment. Just hoping someone experienced can guide me and Ofcourse, I will write a detailed report post my expiditions.
What I am looking for is a 3/4 get away. I love Latin woman and had a great time in Brazil (before I had even discovered ISG).
I love kissing and Latin woman somehow are the most sensual and great kissers.
I am looking for something safe, where I can chill and have a good time with a few different girls or may be even have someone for the entire day.
I like the it all- 20's,30's,40's,50's- don't care so much about the age, as long as they are pretty and clean. Petite / Curvy- I like them all, beautiful face, good kissers- girl friend experience, I am sucker- am easy to please!
I just need your help in deciding, what would be the best first time travel spot for me, out of the options in the title.
So far Tijauana is number one followed by San Salvado, I want to say Medellin but it just feels very unsafe based on recent reports.
How much should I budget for my first trip. Say if I want to enjoy 3/4 ladies over 3 days?
Any places to enjoy milfs?
There are a lot of reports but perhaps been a while, these are catered towards new travellers in the region, hopefully your response will help others like me and I will revert with a detailed report post my trip in September.
Thanks in anticipation of your help.
I have enjoyed the most in Dubai and Brazil- Dubai is more Russian and Middle Eastern beauties and I like the club scene. Brazil just has a special place in my heart, I lived there for 6 months and had a blast! If you need any information about those places please let me know.
Thank you for all the people who replied me. I can fly there on Sunday and take a little bit advantage of the Monday and Tuesday vip discount on their hotel but is it worth it? The bay area girls are expensive but some of them are very hot from southern america or eastern europe too. I kind of already have a plan to go to poland and then russia. Last year I stayed in Russia for 3. 5 months. It was good. Everything was cheap I like it a lot. But its getting harder and harder to get a visa now."The bay area girls are expensive but some of them are very hot".
The are rotten inside.
StubbornMule
07-28-24, 01:24
Thank you for all the people who replied me. I can fly there on Sunday and take a little bit advantage of the Monday and Tuesday vip discount on their hotel but is it worth it? The bay area girls are expensive but some of them are very hot from southern america or eastern europe too. I kind of already have a plan to go to poland and then russia. Last year I stayed in Russia for 3. 5 months. It was good. Everything was cheap I like it a lot. But its getting harder and harder to get a visa now.I'm in the bay. Where are you finding hot eastern european girls??
DramaFree11
07-28-24, 04:58
Bogota, Cartagena, Medellin, girls are ugly freaks, food terrible, murders and violent crimes rampant against mongers. I would not go to Colombia.
Mexico is better developed and more civilized than all those Central American countries. Their businesses are better organized. Tijuana's Red Light District is allegedly under protection both by AMLO's La Guardia Nacional and the cartels. Mongers are pretty safe. Girls in Tijuana are nice, clean, beautiful, in all sizes, shapes, colors, personalities, all centralized within walking distances in a small bar block in La Zona Norte. You can meet and bag a lot of hot girls without wasting time and effort moving around big cities from bars to bars.
From East Coast You can fly into San Diego International in about 5 hours, compared to 10-12 hours to Colombia.
Most Hong Kong and bars' girls will not kiss or only do light lip kissing. Goodgirls escorts all do DFK, BBBJ, likely BBFS is negotiable. Compared to other escort sites, Goodgirls show authentic pics. Its escorts are also nice, clean, young, in good shapes. Most will go to hotels in La Zona Norte. Fruit is the booker at Goodgirls.
Quite a few MILFs hang out in Las Pulgas on Ave Revo, sitting near the door with their buckets of beers, eyeing and trying to seduce guys. They may be older and chunkier than club girls but they are free and may be hornier and kinkier.
A few street girls also do DFK and BBFS, depending on your negotiation.Capt. I could not agree more, Colombia sucks, Mxico is so much better. Two things you left out Colombian girls have the worst attitudes. I can not count the time an Ugly Colombian girl has told me how hot they are. This is the complete opposite with the Mexican Girls, for the most part they are super humble and so fun too be around. You rarely hear Mexican Girl Bragging about themselves. Also, Colombian are so jealous, I never hear guys talk about this, but when I was in MDE the chicks were so jealous and possessive, it was such a turn off.
DonCarlos1234
07-28-24, 07:12
Bogota, Cartagena, Medellin, girls are ugly freaks, food terrible, murders and violent crimes rampant against mongers. I would not go to Colombia.
Mexico is better developed and more civilized than all those Central American countries. Their businesses are better organized. Tijuana's Red Light District is allegedly under protection both by AMLO's La Guardia Nacional and the cartels. Mongers are pretty safe. Girls in Tijuana are nice, clean, beautiful, in all sizes, shapes, colors, personalities, all centralized within walking distances in a small bar block in La Zona Norte. You can meet and bag a lot of hot girls without wasting time and effort moving around big cities from bars to bars.
From East Coast You can fly into San Diego International in about 5 hours, compared to 10-12 hours to Colombia.
Most Hong Kong and bars' girls will not kiss or only do light lip kissing. Goodgirls escorts all do DFK, BBBJ, likely BBFS is negotiable. Compared to other escort sites, Goodgirls show authentic pics. Its escorts are also nice, clean, young, in good shapes. Most will go to hotels in La Zona Norte. Fruit is the booker at Goodgirls.
Quite a few MILFs hang out in Las Pulgas on Ave Revo, sitting near the door with their buckets of beers, eyeing and trying to seduce guys. They may be older and chunkier than club girls but they are free and may be hornier and kinkier.
A few street girls also do DFK and BBFS, depending on your negotiation.So what you will read about on these boards is "mostly" for "mongers" not the real world. If you want to go drinking, party and do multiple ho's every night then HKTJ is the best anywhere. You can do that in Colombia but the odds are you will find trouble with that approach. If you want to have real GFE with very hot and affordable women go to Colombia. Go out and do sme tours, it's a beautiful country. Sorry, do not drink with girls, do not pick up SW's and you will be fine. You won't want to leave.
I just got back from 6 nights in Baja / Tijuana / Rosarito. I found street walkers that were as good as any girls inside HKTJ. That's normal because the scene there is not anything like Colombia. It's all short term unless you live there or are a frequent visitor. Wherever we go we make our own choices and search for what we hope to find. I found that in Bogota & Medellin many times! Slam bam thank you in hktj for $100 feels empty & it's lost it's appeal ever since I went to Colombia. For that kind of $ you will have better choices anyway in Colombia.
Greetings Captain,
I am new to ISG but have been reading your posts for the better part of a decade. I have an opportunity to visit Thailand in September and was wondering if you are still headed there around that time? I would love to coordinate with you or at the very least consult you as I plan and prepare my trip as it is the first time I would be visiting the country. I just activated my regular membership on ISG, please let me know if it is possible to get in touch with you directly in some way. Thank you kindly!
After buying fichas and weeding out HK girls with bad attitudes and are resistant to sex and love, I have not had bad sessions with HK girls in years. All sessions were above average in satisfying my needs and wants, a few were nice, sweet, sexy, outstanding in bed, worth repeating and taking on vacations.
I drive down with wingmen, also meet up with a few guys I met previously in HK. They are fun to hang out with.
Comparing to bar and gogo girls in Thailand and the Phil, sessions with HK girls have been much nicer, sweeter, sexier, costs are cheaper even without factoring in airfares, lodging and travel time ect. Most HK girls are pretty nice and honest, also look and feel appealing and sexy in the international model scale. In opposite, bar and gogo girls in Bangkok and Pattaya look ordinary, homely, plasticky, over made up with ridiculous fake boobs, fake butts, phony and far more mercenary attitudes; some can be very rude.
Bangkok massages, even the top-notch Poseidon in Huay Khwang, have only average-looking women. I just hate their organized crimes links and the damp, warm, musty air and massages. Thermae women are old and chunky, hiding their droopy boobs and saggy buts in loose clothings but manipulative with haughty attitudes and high prices, only meek Japanese can put up with their stupid games. Thaifriendly are mostly bar girls and hookers, some preops, postop trannies, want you to go to their bars and spend money on them. Smooci, the most popular escort site in Thailand and Asia, posts fake old pics and sends ridiculously old, ugly, worn down druggies. I was disgusted.
OTOH I had very good sessions with FIWFANS girls in Bangkok, all nice, clean hot young girls. They cater to local guys, charge only 1,000 to 2000 bahts ($30-50) for hot sessions full of good, sexy feelings with DFK, BBBJ, 69, DATY, CFS ect. I would use as much public transportation as possible, MTR, BTS, buses, cruise on klong water taxis, ride or walk to their hotels, immersing in and enjoying life like locals. Thanks a lot for FIWFANS intels from wingman Sinfully Korean. Here are pics of Nong Nicha, a beautiful, fun, personable, English-speaking girl off Sukhumvit 55. She would spend all day on a date for $250.
Thailand is nice, clean, safe, people warm, fun, friendly, helpful, overall the best exotic location for good food, entertainment, girls, culture, history, sight seeing ect if you have 2 to 3 weeks to spend on the road. Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, Phil, Indonesia, Japan, Korea are far less fun than Thailand. Couple wingmen and I tentatively plan a road trip through S E Asia in Sept. Anybody planning to be there, may be fun to hook up.
Enter The V
07-28-24, 12:24
Bogota, Cartagena, Medellin, girls are ugly freaks, food terrible, murders and violent crimes rampant against mongers. I would not go to Colombia.
Mexico is better developed and more civilized than all those Central American countries. Their businesses are better organized. Tijuana's Red Light District is allegedly under protection both by AMLO's La Guardia Nacional and the cartels. Mongers are pretty safe. Girls in Tijuana are nice, clean, beautiful, in all sizes, shapes, colors, personalities, all centralized within walking distances in a small bar block in La Zona Norte. You can meet and bag a lot of hot girls without wasting time and effort moving around big cities from bars to bars.
From East Coast You can fly into San Diego International in about 5 hours, compared to 10-12 hours to Colombia.
Most Hong Kong and bars' girls will not kiss or only do light lip kissing. Goodgirls escorts all do DFK, BBBJ, likely BBFS is negotiable. Compared to other escort sites, Goodgirls show authentic pics. Its escorts are also nice, clean, young, in good shapes. Most will go to hotels in La Zona Norte. Fruit is the booker at Goodgirls.
Quite a few MILFs hang out in Las Pulgas on Ave Revo, sitting near the door with their buckets of beers, eyeing and trying to seduce guys. They may be older and chunkier than club girls but they are free and may be hornier and kinkier.
A few street girls also do DFK and BBFS, depending on your negotiation.These girls look homely (indian) I want somebody that looks like Aracely Arambula in these Tijuana clubs. Any suggestions please share.
BrotherMouzone
07-28-24, 16:49
Greetings Captain,
I am new to ISG but have been reading your posts for the better part of a decade. I have an opportunity to visit Thailand in September and was wondering if you are still headed there around that time? I would love to coordinate with you or at the very least consult you as I plan and prepare my trip as it is the first time I would be visiting the country. I just activated my regular membership on ISG, please let me know if it is possible to get in touch with you directly in some way. Thank you kindly!There's a "Notifications" feature at the top of the screen where you can private message any user, my man.
One Eyed Man
07-28-24, 17:53
Does anybody know this place? It has invaded my Facebook. The videos feature these cute girls dancing gamely on stage, and I see some of them wearing sashes for having sold 50 drinks. Can you have fun there, or is it just a hostess bar?
LuvMexicanas
07-28-24, 18:24
There's a "Notifications" feature at the top of the screen where you can private message any user, my man.I don't think he has PM capability. So many noobs misunderstand that they need to be a senior member or pay in order to have private messaging.
I never got any problems in Colombia. I was there 3 times this year, Bogota, Medellin and Carthagene and all was OK. For mongering, the best for me is Medellin. Many girls are sexy, I found some girls in Casas, or on facebook, I love colombian pornstars too and when you reach them on the social medias, almost all of them answer you to meet you. And everyday when I'm in Medellin I like to fuck some street working girls in El Centro! And I never got any problem! All girls accept BBFS for extra money.
Bogota, Cartagena, Medellin, girls are ugly freaks, food terrible, murders and violent crimes rampant against mongers. I would not go to Colombia.
Mexico is better developed and more civilized than all those Central American countries. Their businesses are better organized. Tijuana's Red Light District is allegedly under protection both by AMLO's La Guardia Nacional and the cartels. Mongers are pretty safe. Girls in Tijuana are nice, clean, beautiful, in all sizes, shapes, colors, personalities, all centralized within walking distances in a small bar block in La Zona Norte. You can meet and bag a lot of hot girls without wasting time and effort moving around big cities from bars to bars.
From East Coast You can fly into San Diego International in about 5 hours, compared to 10-12 hours to Colombia.
Most Hong Kong and bars' girls will not kiss or only do light lip kissing. Goodgirls escorts all do DFK, BBBJ, likely BBFS is negotiable. Compared to other escort sites, Goodgirls show authentic pics. Its escorts are also nice, clean, young, in good shapes. Most will go to hotels in La Zona Norte. Fruit is the booker at Goodgirls.
Quite a few MILFs hang out in Las Pulgas on Ave Revo, sitting near the door with their buckets of beers, eyeing and trying to seduce guys. They may be older and chunkier than club girls but they are free and may be hornier and kinkier.
A few street girls also do DFK and BBFS, depending on your negotiation.
BrotherMouzone,
Thanks for your reply, the private message system is only allowed for paid subscription members. I wasn't planning to upgrade my membership at this time and would only be able to post publicly. Even if Captain DMs me I don't know that I will be able to read his message as a regular member. I am also noticing now that we cannot publicly post our email address. I will wait for Captains response but perhaps I might need to just go to the Thailand thread and ask my questions to the general public. Still hope there will be some way to get in touch directly though despite my limitations.
There's a "Notifications" feature at the top of the screen where you can private message any user, my man.
DramaFree11
07-28-24, 23:26
So what you will read about on these boards is "mostly" for "mongers" not the real world. If you want to go drinking, party and do multiple ho's every night then HKTJ is the best anywhere. You can do that in Colombia but the odds are you will find trouble with that approach. If you want to have real GFE with very hot and affordable women go to Colombia. Go out and do sme tours, it's a beautiful country. Sorry, do not drink with girls, do not pick up SW's and you will be fine. You won't want to leave.
I just got back from 6 nights in Baja / Tijuana / Rosarito. I found street walkers that were as good as any girls inside HKTJ. That's normal because the scene there is not anything like Colombia. It's all short term unless you live there or are a frequent visitor. Wherever we go we make our own choices and search for what we hope to find. I found that in Bogota & Medellin many times! Slam bam thank you in hktj for $100 feels empty & it's lost it's appeal ever since I went to Colombia. For that kind of $ you will have better choices anyway in Colombia.Sorry, DonCarlos, I always have a GFE in CDMX or MTY. I was with a super hot chick 10 days ago and we spent 5 hours together, but the sex was not good. She is off the list unless there is major change in performance. Colombia is not better for many reasons, that I and others have listed.
Captain Solo
07-29-24, 09:55
Koogler,
Couple of my wingmen have never been to Asia, will go with me late Sept early Oct. If you are still there would be fun to hang with you.
We will be flying a round circle, LA, Singapore, Jakarta, Bangkok, Saigon, Manila, Tokyo, LA. Will stop in major spots 3 or 4 nights, minor spots 2 nights. I have been to these cities a few times so I can shepherd them through the travel process quickly, saving plenty of time to romance the sweethearts. It's a quick sampler so they know the rope to come back for their preferred spots.
ISG owner needs to make some money for this site, so they try to steer guys to pay for subscription. Guys cannot post tels or email in this site, or their account would be deleted. Subscription will let guys use Private Message feature to communicate with each other. It saves a lot of time, money, headache and problems on the road. Via PM I hooked up with quite a few local bros and was quickly shown the best local offers, which I could not find on my own.
Thailand is straightforward, in Bangkok, Pattaya or Phuket. In case we lose contact, in Bangkok I would stay at the Boss Suites on Soi 4, 4-star, nice, clean, comfortable with free breakfast, only $28. I stayed at a few 4 and 5 star hotels in that area before and I like Boss Suites best. From there you can walk to Nana Plaza for hundreds girls in bars and have lots of good food day and night. Take Uber rides to check out Soi Cowboy and Patpong and many soapy massage joints, but girls quality and prices may be not as good as Nana.
Check out FIWFANS, lots of hot, fresh, young girls service locals for $30-40, compared to $100+ foreigners' price at the bars. FIWFANS girls are more authentic Thai, pretty, nice, clean, sweet, gentle, sexy compared to the old, plasticky, hardened bar girls. I found a few very nice English speaking FIWFANS girls. They are reachable with quick UBER rides.
Here's the pic of the TSGLINE booker, an agency in FIWFANS. She was pretty, very nice and sweet, communicated with me in good English, I wanted to bag her myself hehe. They communicate via LINE.
Keep in touch.
Greetings Captain,
I am new to ISG but have been reading your posts for the better part of a decade. I have an opportunity to visit Thailand in September and was wondering if you are still headed there around that time? I would love to coordinate with you or at the very least consult you as I plan and prepare my trip as it is the first time I would be visiting the country. I just activated my regular membership on ISG, please let me know if it is possible to get in touch with you directly in some way. Thank you kindly!You would be better advised to go to the Thailand section of these boards and speak to a senior member there. Although I haven't seen him for several years, Goatscroat is a really great guy and full of information and he actually lives in BKK.
There are lots of guys on the Tijuana boards who talk a huge game but are just that. All talk. For instance, Uber hasn't existed in all of Southeast Asia for several years.
When your PM function works I'll be happy to answer any questions or refer you to somebody who can, if you like. I don't post much in the Thailand section anymore because for a number of years my travels were with Thai civvies. I can answer a lot of questions about Thailand and Thai culture in general, but not about specific bars.
Good luck.
BrotherMouzone
07-29-24, 19:01
BrotherMouzone,
Thanks for your reply, the private message system is only allowed for paid subscription members. I wasn't planning to upgrade my membership at this time and would only be able to post publicly. Even if Captain DMs me I don't know that I will be able to read his message as a regular member. I am also noticing now that we cannot publicly post our email address. I will wait for Captains response but perhaps I might need to just go to the Thailand thread and ask my questions to the general public. Still hope there will be some way to get in touch directly though despite my limitations.Ah, ok. Well I can tell you I don't currently and probably would never pay for a subscription to this kind of message board so I suspect that there's some sort of post count quota or length of membership term that I've met that allows me to private message for free. I see you only have a few posts so my guess would be that's why you can't use the PM system. I just assumed everyone could as I've used the private message system occasionally for a few years now and I definitely don't pay for any subscription here. I'm seeing just now that I'm a "Senior Member" so maybe that's what qualifies me to PM for free.
BrotherMouzone
07-29-24, 21:40
Ah, ok. Well I can tell you I don't currently and probably would never pay for a subscription to this kind of message board so I suspect that there's some sort of post count quota or length of membership term that I've met that allows me to private message for free. I see you only have a few posts so my guess would be that's why you can't use the PM system. I just assumed everyone could as I've used the private message system occasionally for a few years now and I definitely don't pay for any subscription here. I'm seeing just now that I'm a "Senior Member" so maybe that's what qualifies me to PM for free.I just looked it up. All you have to do to be a "Senior Member" is have had a "Regular Member" account for at least 6 months AND have at least 25 posts. So that's all you have to do to get free PM privileges in lieu of paying for a subscription.
LuvMexicanas
07-30-24, 00:53
BrotherMouzone,
Thanks for your reply, the private message system is only allowed for paid subscription members. I wasn't planning to upgrade my membership at this time and would only be able to post publicly. Even if Captain DMs me I don't know that I will be able to read his message as a regular member. I am also noticing now that we cannot publicly post our email address. I will wait for Captains response but perhaps I might need to just go to the Thailand thread and ask my questions to the general public. Still hope there will be some way to get in touch directly though despite my limitations.How much will you spend on mongering when you add up all the expenses related to the trip? That number will be large enough to where the subscription fee is maybe, perhaps not even 1%?
Captain, You've already answered a question I had in mind without even me asking and given me some great initial perspective, that is exactly why I have always been drawn to your posts and wanted to consult you. I will most likely be in Taiwan first week of September and was thinking about visiting Bangkok for 1-2 weeks before I head back to Taiwan maybe for a couple / few days and then subsequently go home back to LA. Seems like we might not be able to rendezvous if your trip begins late September. If not Asia, Perhaps one day we can hangout in Tijuana, although I am new to ISG and visiting Thailand I have been going to HK for as long as I've been reading your posts. Shit, I often wonder if we have already crossed paths before.
Phordphan, I will definitely be voicing some inquiries and welcoming any and all recommendations / insight for my situation on the Bangkok thread, thank you.
BrotherMouzone, I was unaware of the 6 month and 25 post member upgrade. That is interesting and good to know, thank you.
LuvMexicanas, I guess it is not so much the price / cost of subscribing. More so that I was a little put off when briefly reading the directions for paying as it is very specific and not normally something I would do.
Guys, Thanks for all the messages, this alone has taught me the value of just regular membership and being able to post publicly on the threads.
Appreciate you all.
Stay Safe.
AmericanPi
07-30-24, 14:46
I'll be in Tijuana this weekend and will probably be at HK on Saturday daytime, like 12-4. Anyone else? Capn?
Also do you guys know if they're showing the Olympics in HK on the screens? I tried to find a WhatsApp to ask them but I'm def not going to ask them via my social media accounts and I don't want the phone call on my phone bill.
I'll be in Tijuana this weekend and will probably be at HK on Saturday daytime, like 12-4. Anyone else? Capn?
Also do you guys know if they're showing the Olympics in HK on the screens? I tried to find a WhatsApp to ask them but I'm def not going to ask them via my social media accounts and I don't want the phone call on my phone bill.They always advertise special sporting events on their X account but I have yet to see them mention the Olympics. Recently they've just mentioned sporting events on the tv. On a Saturday afternoon I don't see why they wouldn't have the Olympics on since it's the summer break for soccer. If some other sporting event is going on they might not have the Olympics on all of the televisions and you'll get stuck having to watch it on a smaller one. Or ask for the Captain and ask him if it's possible to watch a certain event.
I was at HK Sunday night and saw another couple of civilian chicks hanging out inside. They seemed to be by themselves. Weren't too bad looking, one a 6 the other a 7, both Mexican. One of them struck up a small conversation with me when we were both focusing on the main stage from the 2nd floor. Later on I saw them drinking at a table and they were being loud and obnoxious. The one that I had talked to earlier called me over a couple times when I would pass by but I just waved at them because they seemed super annoying and wanted all the attention on them instead of the working chicas. I knew I wouldn't be able to stand them for more than a few minutes. Of course eventually a couple other guys who were around joined them but they also seemed like drunk idiots so they were more of a better fit for each other LOL.
I'll be in Tijuana this weekend and will probably be at HK on Saturday daytime, like 12-4. Anyone else? Capn?
Also do you guys know if they're showing the Olympics in HK on the screens? I tried to find a WhatsApp to ask them but I'm def not going to ask them via my social media accounts and I don't want the phone call on my phone bill.
I was there the past couple of days and didn't see the Olympics on any of the tv's, just baseball and soccer. Maybe they show them during the daytime though, I'm more of an early evening to late night kind of guy.
What is going on with HK if there is so much discussion in the thread not about the HK?
Seeing a lot of comparisons to SE Asia and S. America. Visiting other boards, I have known the Tijuana board pretty focused on Tijuana.
Is there such a deterioration of service in HK and Tijuana that many are abandoning ship?
Or is it the usual grumblings of those tired of the same experiences and continuing increase in prices?
Personally I only tend to post reports when there's something out of the ordinary or something else worth sharing. Otherwise I would just be posting the same kind of stuff over and over. I'm assuming it's the same for others. A lot of guys stick to their regulars so they don't find it necessary to share too much. The quality and fun times are still there, you just have to know where to look.
RikyMichaels7
08-01-24, 17:39
HK is still good but because they are the only stars in town they are upping prices outrageously high. So high it now matches what you find in the US. That is the issue, 6 years ago we had Adelitas, now there is no one that stand close to HK. Any girl accepted to work in HK thinks she is a gift to mankind, and those in Tropical think they are no less than those you find in HK. Lots of BS going on. HK is really in danger of becoming like that untouchable club by the border with humongous mansion but not much client. HK's attraction really is its service and attractive pricing, tight control of the girls and high security. You lose any of this and the wall build will crumble.I couldn't have said it any better. Totally agree. Total turnoff.
Enter The V
08-02-24, 12:16
What is going on with HK if there is so much discussion in the thread not about the HK?
Seeing a lot of comparisons to SE Asia and S. America. Visiting other boards, I have known the Tijuana board pretty focused on Tijuana.
Is there such a deterioration of service in HK and Tijuana that many are abandoning ship?
Or is it the usual grumblings of those tired of the same experiences and continuing increase in prices?To many Gringos go to it and ruined it.
It's funny because if you go back a few years before AB was closed most guys just talked about how it had gone downhill and they didn't have any attractive girls so guys would just do a lap around and leave. Now many of you think that HK has some sort of monopoly and is taking advantage of its clients. Well HK has had a monopoly for almost 10 years the biggest difference is more and more guys are finding out about it and they are able to raise prices on things. The girls have also found that they don't have to be working in a bar for 8 or more hours a night to make money. So the ones that do start asking for more. Once it gets to a point that guys stop paying a certain price that is what the price will be. So the girls can choose to try and get guys online or they will go to other parts of Mexico that they might make a little less but it's more affordable compared to Tijuana.
Also I haven't been to HK on a Friday or Saturday night in some time but I guess it's still packed so I don't see HK going downhill anytime soon. My last visit was Thanking night thinking it would be slow. It was packed with all the extra rooms open.
I think it's easy to remember the past and long for how things were but everything evolves and I bet you ask some guy visiting for the first time what he thinks of the place he'the say it's the best place on earth. But a person that had been going for 10 years thinks of the past being better. And that person from 10 years ago had no idea how much better it was 20 years ago and so on. Now at some point I agree HK will begin to descend but I don't think it's hit its peak just yet.
Hotel Cascadas is so cheap on Monday / Tuesday (with VIP) that I actually just used it as a hotel because I needed some dental work done, Tijuana is cheaper, and I only saw a couple of girls, I mostly just stayed in my room and recovered after my surgery. I don't know if they like this-- surely the hotel rooms are so cheap because it's a loss leader and they're expecting you'll spend money at the club-- but I don't think they're tracking things carefully enough to know that I wasn't really spending. Crazy to think that the room is such a bargain it might make sense for somebody who isn't planning to hire hookers at all to just rent it if they're visiting Tijuana for medical tourism or whatever. The only downside is that prominent "HOTEL CASCADAS" wristband; strong chance dentist knew I was a monger.
Even though I didn't monger that much, still a positive experience. Girls far outnumber the clients on Monday. I still got price quoted $150 by a couple but I just kept going. I've had pretty good results by simply tipping $1 to a girl dancing on the bar-- they don't get as much attention as the state girls, they tend to be insanely hot, and in my experience give good lap dances / sex. I've had horrible results with girls that are just sitting on the couch waiting to be approached, it doesn't matter how hot they are because they won't be good in bed.
Heading over there during their lingerie show event that's in the 15th but there 13th-16th likely. Thinking get 1 room at the Cascada for fun but another for sleeping. Thinking of just staying in Tijuana to avoid crossing border and forth. Is this recommended? Also anyone that's there would love to buy you a drink for contributions that gave me so much insight before wanting to come to HK. Thanks.
Baxter Slade
08-03-24, 15:14
Hotel Cascadas is so cheap on Monday / Tuesday (with VIP) that I actually just used it as a hotel because I needed some dental work done, Tijuana is cheaper, and I only saw a couple of girls, I mostly just stayed in my room and recovered after my surgery. I don't know if they like this-- surely the hotel rooms are so cheap because it's a loss leader and they're expecting you'll spend money at the club-- but I don't think they're tracking things carefully enough to know that I wasn't really spending. Crazy to think that the room is such a bargain it might make sense for somebody who isn't planning to hire hookers at all to just rent it if they're visiting Tijuana for medical tourism or whatever. The only downside is that prominent "HOTEL CASCADAS" wristband; strong chance dentist knew I was a monger.
Even though I didn't monger that much, still a positive experience. Girls far outnumber the clients on Monday. I still got price quoted $150 by a couple but I just kept going. I've had pretty good results by simply tipping $1 to a girl dancing on the bar-- they don't get as much attention as the state girls, they tend to be insanely hot, and in my experience give good lap dances / sex. I've had horrible results with girls that are just sitting on the couch waiting to be approached, it doesn't matter how hot they are because they won't be good in bed.As far as the wristband goes. I won't wear it if I'm venturing out of the zona. Just take it off and stick it in your pocket. The worse thing that will happen is when you return to the hotel they will put another one on you.
Captain Solo
08-03-24, 16:29
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Captain Solo
08-03-24, 16:30
Hi Am Pi.
Tomorrow is Saturday. I tried but due to wingman's baby sitting obligation, he can only go on Sunday.
I will be down on Sunday by about 2. If you are still there PM me. Or PM me your plan next time you go down. Would be fun to meet.
Captain Solo
08-03-24, 19:47
Koogler.
I book Uber in the US and Mexico, so when I think of ride share, Uber came to mind.
In Asia, Uber sold its operation to Grab a few years back. Grab is HQed in Singapore, offers ride share with both cars and bikes. I got Grab rides in Thailand, Vietnam and Indonesia.
Have fun. Just ignore nasty, petty guys who are quick to pick nits and make accusations.
Hotel Cascadas is so cheap on Monday / Tuesday (with VIP) that I actually just used it as a hotel because I needed some dental work done, Tijuana is cheaper, and I only saw a couple of girls, I mostly just stayed in my room and recovered after my surgery. I don't know if they like this-- surely the hotel rooms are so cheap because it's a loss leader and they're expecting you'll spend money at the club-- but I don't think they're tracking things carefully enough to know that I wasn't really spending. Crazy to think that the room is such a bargain it might make sense for somebody who isn't planning to hire hookers at all to just rent it if they're visiting Tijuana for medical tourism or whatever. The only downside is that prominent "HOTEL CASCADAS" wristband; strong chance dentist knew I was a monger.
Even though I didn't monger that much, still a positive experience. Girls far outnumber the clients on Monday. I still got price quoted $150 by a couple but I just kept going. I've had pretty good results by simply tipping $1 to a girl dancing on the bar-- they don't get as much attention as the state girls, they tend to be insanely hot, and in my experience give good lap dances / sex. I've had horrible results with girls that are just sitting on the couch waiting to be approached, it doesn't matter how hot they are because they won't be good in bed.HK not going out anytime in our lifetime. That is for sure. They have an excellent survival instinct and hope they watch their pricing not to put their clients off. See they should know the dollar exchange rate may be down and there is inflation even in Mexico as well as in the US but wages are not rising in parallel in the US. This is the pitfall of our economic system and where better does it show than in the mongering world.
The US dollar is under some pressure form competitive alternatives these days but will continue to be the dominant currency for the foreseeable future, as long as that stays true then there has to be a balanced approach of service provision to acquire it from clients. That is all I am saying.
HK not going out anytime in our lifetime. That is for sure. They have an excellent survival instinct and hope they watch their pricing not to put their clients off. See they should know the dollar exchange rate may be down and there is inflation even in Mexico as well as in the US but wages are not rising in parallel in the US. This is the pitfall of our economic system and where better does it show than in the mongering world.
The US dollar is under some pressure form competitive alternatives these days but will continue to be the dominant currency for the foreseeable future, as long as that stays true then there has to be a balanced approach of service provision to acquire it from clients. That is all I am saying.Hong Kong and Zona Norte will exist because prostitution on the other side of the border in the US is illegal, and in Nevada these brothels are too expensive and in the middle of the desert. It may be even worse, because if Trump and the Republicans win, they plan to completely ban pornography on the Internet (project - 2025).
LuvMexicanas
08-04-24, 09:12
Hong Kong and Zona Norte will exist because prostitution on the other side of the border in the US is illegal, and in Nevada these brothels are too expensive and in the middle of the desert. It may be even worse, because if Trump and the Republicans win, they plan to completely ban pornography on the Internet (project - 2025).I laugh every time posters predict or signal the demise of Hong Kong due to prices. You're a hundred percent right that as long as selling sex in the states is illegal that Hong Kong with thrive. It's too easy aside from the travel for some and you can get for $100 -150 what would cost you $300-500 in the US easy.
....... if Trump and the Republicans win, they plan to completely ban pornography on the Internet (project - 2025).His way of getting back at Stormy Daniels.
Hong Kong and Zona Norte will exist because prostitution on the other side of the border in the US is illegal, and in Nevada these brothels are too expensive and in the middle of the desert. It may be even worse, because if Trump and the Republicans win, they plan to completely ban pornography on the Internet (project - 2025).I'm not sure how you can live in SD and not know how easy it is to find sex without even going to Tijuana. Just do a search for open prostitution in San Diego or go on different web sites to easily see girls that are obviously selling sex. Not to mention the numerous massage joints. Just last week they had a bust of girls being trafficked for Comic Con. I didn't read the details but to think that HK is only feeding those that can't pay for sex in the US is ridiculous.
HKs biggest value is the amount of attractive girls and the ability to relax and party with the girls or just go quickly. Where in the US doesn't have this type of venue for the general public. And yes it's much more affordable than the US for the same quality girls although some of you claim the gap is not as wide as before but I can't comment on that.
Your political comment was wrong as well since I imagine you haven't done much investigation into this just repeating what you watch or read where you get your news from and don't actually try to dig deeper on the subject. Pornography is a huge problem in the US and its exploitation, in a perfect world all the women would be free to do it, but just like prostitution adults and non adults are being forced into it. So as a society we need to take a step back and look at the problem. This is what "think tanks" do. They have them on both sides of politics.
Hong Kong and Zona Norte will exist because prostitution on the other side of the border in the US is illegal, and in Nevada these brothels are too expensive and in the middle of the desert. It may be even worse, because if Trump and the Republicans win, they plan to completely ban pornography on the Internet (project - 2025).Don't believe everything you read on the Internet concerning Project 2025. Banning pornography on the Internet is a fool's mission.
Prostitution in Mexico will exist in one form or another because it is legal. However, many Mexicans have felt that the ZN is a blight on Tijuana's reputation and it would not surprise me if eventual crackdowns caused things to move elsewhere. Will it happen? Who knows? But I will not be shocked if it does. Guys tend to wildly overestimate the importance of themselves, and the economic benefit to Tijuana of the Zona Norte. Usually, IMO, because that's the only part of Tijuana they see.
BrotherMouzone
08-04-24, 22:52
As far as the wristband goes. I won't wear it if I'm venturing out of the zona. Just take it off and stick it in your pocket. The worse thing that will happen is when you return to the hotel they will put another one on you.I keep the wristband on when I'm out and about outside of Zona Norte in Tijuana, mostly because I'm too lazy to take it off. But I don't know anyone in Tijuana outside of the chicas I mess with so I don't really care what other people in Tijuana think if they happen to notice it LOL. Not so sure HK has quite the negative stigma in Tijuana that it has in the States anyway.
I do take it off when I'm coming back across the border to the USA Though. I remember several years ago I crossed the border to go to a Padres / Dodgers baseball game with the wristband still on. A guy I was sitting next to noticed I had it on and cracked a few jokes with me and his girlfriend about the wristband during the game. It was all good-natured and he was a cool, friendly dude but I suppose it was mildly embarrassing, LOL.
ABAJoeSmith123
08-05-24, 06:05
Tried a new chica. Smoking hot body. Half asian & half latina. Double the tits. Wears a bikini. Name is carly from guadelajara. Probably the worst attitude ever. Doesn't do drinks. Bitchy attitude upstairs. Makes you take a shower and then has no friendliness.
Don't recommend. Don't be fooled by her physical hotness like I was. Not worth taking arriba when the attitude is so cold and bad.
I'm not sure how you can live in SD and not know how easy it is to find sex without even going to Tijuana. Just do a search for open prostitution in San Diego or go on different web sites to easily see girls that are obviously selling sex. Not to mention the numerous massage joints. Just last week they had a bust of girls being trafficked for Comic Con. I didn't read the details but to think that HK is only feeding those that can't pay for sex in the US is ridiculous.
HKs biggest value is the amount of attractive girls and the ability to relax and party with the girls or just go quickly. Where in the US doesn't have this type of venue for the general public. And yes it's much more affordable than the US for the same quality girls although some of you claim the gap is not as wide as before but I can't comment on that.
Your political comment was wrong as well since I imagine you haven't done much investigation into this just repeating what you watch or read where you get your news from and don't actually try to dig deeper on the subject. Pornography is a huge problem in the US and its exploitation, in a perfect world all the women would be free to do it, but just like prostitution adults and non adults are being forced into it. So as a society we need to take a step back and look at the problem. This is what "think tanks" do. They have them on both sides of politics.If you know any legal places in San Diego club / brothel for sex, drinks, please give me the address (legal sex only and chicas over 18 yrs old) . I don't want to be arrested in police sting operation, beaten and robbed by an aggressive pimp or robbed by a chica. Such places exist and I know them but not in San Diego. For example Hong Kong Tijuana, Pascha in the German city of Cologne, Chicken Ranch Pahrump Nevada, Campo on the island of Curacao (temporarily closed) or La Jonquera Spain on the border with France. (It's like Hong Kong club for the French because prostitution was recently banned in France) and many other places but not in San Diego.
If you know any legal places in San Diego club / brothel for sex, drinks, please give me the address (legal sex only and chicas over 18 yrs old) . I don't want to be arrested in police sting operation, beaten and robbed by an aggressive pimp or robbed by a chica. Such places exist and I know them but not in San Diego. For example Hong Kong Tijuana, Pascha in the German city of Cologne, Chicken Ranch Pahrump Nevada, Campo on the island of Curacao (temporarily closed) or La Jonquera Spain on the border with France. (It's like Hong Kong club for the French because prostitution was recently banned in France) and many other places but not in San Diego.If only this board had a RC test that people had to pass in order to reply to posts. You stated that HK exists because prostitution is illegal. So I pointed out how easy it is to pay for sex in SD. Obviously there is a demand so that created a supply. So even with Tijuana just a short drive away guys still don't go and would rather stay local.
I stated the reason HK is popular in the second paragraph I suggest you go back and read it because your first sentence is pointless as a response to what I wrote. I'm not sure what the point of the last part of your post was, maybe you thought it would impress me that you've been to these places but many of us on this board have visited places like HK in many countries so it's not that much of an accomplishment. It's funny when some guys brag about other places they have been like they have walked on the moon. LOL.
Captain Solo
08-05-24, 14:52
I took a wingman to a hot pot dinner then he took me to a small bar in Anaheim. There was a pool table, a few guys drank and smoked casually, played pool. $3 draft beers. The place felt like a hang out for blue-collar guys. There should be a few more small, low-key bars with girls to entertain guys.
Only 1 male bar tender. The female waitress was Caucasian, mid to late 20's, attractive and pleasant, smiling, acting like a sweetheart to the guys. Wingman told me she would screw regular customers in the small room behind the bar, $100-150, depending how well she knew the guy.
There should be similar bars in San Diego. Ask your player friends.
BTW I should take the wingmen and out of town visitors to this place, drink, hang out, so they don't risk stings by local PDs.
If only this board had a RC test that people had to pass in order to reply to posts. You stated that HK exists because prostitution is illegal. So I pointed out how easy it is to pay for sex in SD. Obviously there is a demand so that created a supply. So even with Tijuana just a short drive away guys still don't go and would rather stay local.
I stated the reason HK is popular in the second paragraph I suggest you go back and read it because your first sentence is pointless as a response to what I wrote. I'm not sure what the point of the last part of your post was, maybe you thought it would impress me that you've been to these places but many of us on this board have visited places like HK in many countries so it's not that much of an accomplishment. It's funny when some guys brag about other places they have been like they have walked on the moon. LOL.You suggested google search "Open prostitution in San Diego" here I have results "Pimps control San Diego neighborhoods as resident fear speaking out" or to "National City police install Skywatch tower to combat sex trafficking, prostitution" or to "14 arrested prostitution sting at San Diego Comic-Con" or "City of San Diego shuts down massage parlor" and many more. So where is the magic place for easy sex in San Diego? Give me the exact address of a club just like Hong Kong in Tijuana, La Jonquera in Spain or the largest brothel in Europe Pascha in the city of Cologne, Germany. BTW I don't have time for this discussion any longer. Case closed and hasta la vista.
You suggested google search "Open prostitution in San Diego" here I have results "Pimps control San Diego neighborhoods as resident fear speaking out" or to "National City police install Skywatch tower to combat sex trafficking, prostitution" or to "14 arrested prostitution sting at San Diego Comic-Con" or "City of San Diego shuts down massage parlor" and many more. So where is the magic place for easy sex in San Diego? Give me the exact address of a club just like Hong Kong in Tijuana, La Jonquera in Spain or the largest brothel in Europe Pascha in the city of Cologne, Germany. BTW I don't have time for this discussion any longer. Case closed and hasta la vista.So I guess your idea of a "mic drop" is proving what I said and rambling about some other nonsense that still has nothing to do with what I said about HK.
Nowhere did I say it was legal in the US or SD for that matter I just pointed out how easy it is to find. Now do you run a risk of going to jail, yes but if you look at how open it is in some neighborhoods or you have half a brain and can use the internet the only people getting caught must be the dumbest people on earth. In fact I wish somehow we could know the number of guys in SD that pay for sex Mon-Thurs compared to how many guys from SD go to Tijuana to pay for sex. I would imagine more guys stay in SD.
ToungeFlicker
08-08-24, 00:49
I am a long time monger to Juan Dolio, Sosua, Columbia & San Jose; flying into TIJ for 1 night at Cascadias next week. Should I change USD for pesos? Flights cheaper from DFW into TIJ than SAN. Any suggestions from long timers appreciated.
AmericanPi
08-08-24, 16:37
I am a long time monger to Juan Dolio, Sosua, Columbia & San Jose; flying into TIJ for 1 night at Cascadias next week. Should I change USD for pesos? Flights cheaper from DFW into TIJ than SAN. Any suggestions from long timers appreciated.It's far less complicated than you think. Trust on this.
You don't need pesos. Dollars are fine.
Just got dropped off at Hong Kong and it'll all be super obvious from there. You can look at some of the other bars but HK is the crown jewel.
There's nothing else to know, really.
Oh, maybe 2 things. 1. Be ready to walk if a girl quotes you above 140 and won't come down (you can get lower even. Your call). And 2. Agree what's included before you go upstairs with girl. Too many guys learned the hard way when a girl says "oh you wanted 2 positions? That's an extra 20 dollars" or some such nonsense. Be explicit and clear. You didn't hop on a plane to Tijuana to be coy.
I am a long time monger to Juan Dolio, Sosua, Columbia & San Jose; flying into TIJ for 1 night at Cascadias next week. Should I change USD for pesos? Flights cheaper from DFW into TIJ than SAN. Any suggestions from long timers appreciated.No need for Pesos for one night. For those who would want to stay for a week or so, then Pesos make sense, specially currently. The reason is this. The exchange rate right now is 1 American dollar for 18.60 Mexican pesos. However all businesses, restaurants, bars etc. Will exchange one American dollar for 16 Mexican pesos. So if you spend 500 pesos on a meal with friends, then you pay about $32 instead of $27 if you use USD. Some guys spend hundreds of USD in the bars so it adds up.
TerOnlyOnce
08-11-24, 05:28
How is the service these days?
I'm thinking of visiting, maybe for 2 nights or something.
Just curious if the rates are still like $90-100.
If girls are charging minimum $120 now and going up to $140 for the same 15 minutes of crap sex that they usually offer, that'll probably sway my decision to not go.
ABAJoeSmith123
08-11-24, 06:01
How is the service these days?
I'm thinking of visiting, maybe for 2 nights or something.
Just curious if the rates are still like $90-100.
If girls are charging minimum $120 now and going up to $140 for the same 15 minutes of crap sex that they usually offer, that'll probably sway my decision to not go.Rates are through the roof now unfortunately. Entitled girls charging $150-200 and barely ever budging. Forcing $38 wine glasses on you that they consume in 15 seconds. Forcing $12-18 drinks on you ever 2 minutes. Hotel now charges a ridiculous $40 fee to use the rooms. Club entrance fee on Friday / Saturday is now $6.
HK is super expensive now. There are tons of ugly girls inside, but there are also a lot of hot ones. It's still the best place in town especially since Chicago is a dump and adelitas is closed.
You can have a good time, but it's super expensive now compared to past times.
TerOnlyOnce
08-11-24, 16:21
Rates are through the roof now unfortunately. Entitled girls charging $150-200 and barely ever budging. Forcing $38 wine glasses on you that they consume in 15 seconds. Forcing $12-18 drinks on you ever 2 minutes. Hotel now charges a ridiculous $40 fee to use the rooms. Club entrance fee on Friday / Saturday is now $6.
HK is super expensive now. There are tons of ugly girls inside, but there are also a lot of hot ones. It's still the best place in town especially since Chicago is a dump and adelitas is closed.
You can have a good time, but it's super expensive now compared to past times.$150 are you serious?
Wow. They legitimately killed HK with those prices.
LOL.
Can anyone else confirm if the majority will only accept $150 for a session now?
Last time I was there it was like $100. Even $100 isn't good enough now?
LOL. This is dumb.
All the reason to never go again. Can always just get much better service by paying $100 more seeing sugar babies locally in the US.
Lame.
The price of pussy has definitely gone up along with everything else, but I still get a pretty good value out of HK. There's a reason the VIP card gives 70% off at the hotel on Monday / Tuesday, it's because there's no customers. But the girls don't just go home to Ciudad Juárez or wherever the fuck they're actually from. Some of them take the slow days "off", but still--the ratio of girls to customers is way, way better. Basic supply and demand is at play here, a girls who knows she can hold out for $150 on a Friday night will fuck you for $100 on Monday afternoon and her pussy feels the same. The hotel cascadas internet is also good enough that I don't even need to take time off work, I just do my remote job from a brothel instead of my house.
$150 are you serious?
Wow. They legitimately killed HK with those prices.
LOL.
Can anyone else confirm if the majority will only accept $150 for a session now?
Last time I was there it was like $100. Even $100 isn't good enough now?
LOL. This is dumb.
All the reason to never go again. Can always just get much better service by paying $100 more seeing sugar babies locally in the US.
Lame.I was consistently making the hottter girls agree for $100, consistently they all came down to $100. I did not check lower than $100 but if I did I could have them go for $80 and this is when it was busy with more guys than girls, Thursday night. It does take some finesse and experience but can be done.
Only fools or sex hungry bozos pay $150 for these girls.
I noticed the girls are more anxious these days because of lack of business. They are forced to pay for outrageous fecha payments while promised can charge $150 and to the most part they can't get $150, hence the anxiousness. HK are in danger of losing their women.
Check this conversation I had with a HK girl.
BrotherMouzone
08-11-24, 22:53
$150 are you serious?
Wow. They legitimately killed HK with those prices.
LOL.
Can anyone else confirm if the majority will only accept $150 for a session now?
Last time I was there it was like $100. Even $100 isn't good enough now?
LOL. This is dumb.
All the reason to never go again. Can always just get much better service by paying $100 more seeing sugar babies locally in the US.
Lame.I haven't been since May, but I've personally never been quoted more than $120, and every case where I've counteroffered the $120 with $100 was quickly accepted. So at least for me, I'm still not expecting to pay more than $80 or $100. The $150 thing is foreign to me but I'll be at HK a month or so from now so we'll see then.
TerOnlyOnce
08-12-24, 00:29
I was consistently making the hottter girls agree for $100, consistently they all came down to $100. I did not check lower than $100 but if I did I could have them go for $80 and this is when it was busy with more guys than girls, Thursday night. It does take some finesse and experience but can be done.
Only fools or sex hungry bozos pay $150 for these girls.
I noticed the girls are more anxious these days because of lack of business. They are forced to pay for outrageous fecha payments while promised can charge $150 and to the most part they can't get $150, hence the anxiousness. HK are in danger of losing their women.
Check this conversation I had with a HK girl.Nice.
How is the safety around HK and when it comes to taking Ubers or DiDi to and from the border?
Are there stray bullets and sht?
I remember some idiot guys associated with cartels I think got shot like right outside HK, but this may have been a year ago by now.
Is the safety there still ass?
I haven't been since May, but I've personally never been quoted more than $120, and every case where I've counteroffered the $120 with $100 was quickly accepted. So at least for me, I'm still not expecting to pay more than $80 or $100. The $150 thing is foreign to me but I'll be at HK a month or so from now so we'll see then.When I was there in June. All the hotties were asking $150. I just passed without trying to negotiate and found a more reasonable but not as hot girl.
ABAJoeSmith123
08-12-24, 06:47
$150 are you serious?
Wow. They legitimately killed HK with those prices.
LOL.
Can anyone else confirm if the majority will only accept $150 for a session now?
Last time I was there it was like $100. Even $100 isn't good enough now?
LOL. This is dumb.
All the reason to never go again. Can always just get much better service by paying $100 more seeing sugar babies locally in the US.
Lame.I am 100% serious! I've been going for years back when the going price was $60. Now the trend is $150 - $200. It is possible to negotiate down a little but like someone else said on this forum, it takes finesse and honestly I feel the whole mood is destroyed already when you're trying to negotiate a price down. Many girls won't budge. Unless you have some chemistry and are a repeat customer to a girl that knows you, goodluck finding anyone hot that will go for less than $150.
I don't mind the prices for the girls. What gets me is the cost of the hotel ($40) and the beers / wine prices the meseros drown you in if you try to sit with a girl rather than just immediately going upstairs. It's nice to spend time sitting with a girl, but with the meseros poaching your wallet every 2 minutes for another $12-40 dollars for another beer / wine glass, the clock is ticking and the fun is dwindling.
Chicago has a reasonable $20 hotel fee and the waitors don't drown you with drink poaching, but unfortunately the girls there are just really ugly and the hotel is nasty as hell. You don't even want to step in the bathroom in those hotel rooms. They're filthy.
Don't forget parking fees to cross the border. That's another $20. It all adds up.
ABAJoeSmith123
08-12-24, 06:52
Nice.
How is the safety around HK and when it comes to taking Ubers or DiDi to and from the border?
Are there stray bullets and sht?
I remember some idiot guys associated with cartels I think got shot like right outside HK, but this may have been a year ago by now.
Is the safety there still ass?HK is as safe as you make it. You are in mexico. You are in Tijuana, a notoriously dangerous city. You are in a sex club run by cartel drug runners. There are customers in the club who aren't the highest quality of citizens. Taken together, there will always be elements there that are dangerous.
However, if you keep a low profile, be respectful to others, don't do anything illicit, don't wander in areas well beyond the boundaries of the club in Tijuana, you should be fine.
In all honesty, in my years of visiting Tijuana, all the dangerous encounters I've had all occurred in San Ysidro when I had returned to the USA. San Ysidro is dangerous. You're vulnerable because you're walking out in the open and open to assault, car jacking, etc. Whereas in Tijuana, you basically sit in a taxi / uber all the way to the club and never actually walk in the actual city.
Is the safety there still ass?Yes, the asses are still safe!
AmericanPi
08-12-24, 14:44
Nice.
How is the safety around HK and when it comes to taking Ubers or DiDi to and from the border?
Are there stray bullets and sht?Yes. There are stray bullets. Pretty common actually. And the occasional stray missile wanders into the zona. Being knifed is just part of the fun actually. Don't forget to pick up a Glock (your Uber driver can sell you one with a scratched serial number on the way over) and join in the fun. Nothing beats an afternoon of sex, food, and casual homicide.
I was consistently making the hottter girls agree for $100, consistently they all came down to $100. I did not check lower than $100 but if I did I could have them go for $80 and this is when it was busy with more guys than girls, Thursday night. It does take some finesse and experience but can be done.
I noticed the girls are more anxious these days because of lack of business. They are forced to pay for outrageous fecha payments while promised can charge $150 and to the most part they can't get $150, hence the anxiousness. HK are in danger of losing their women.So you make a girl agree to $100 but you could have them go for $80. First I would be interested to know how you make a girl go for $100. And secondly why you wouldn't make her go for $80? Seems to me your bragging about your ability to get a lower price but your foolishness to pay more than what you need to. If I bought a car I wouldn't go around bragging about the discount I received and at the same time brag that I could have paid even less. It seems to defeat the purpose of bragging about the price you paid.
The second comment of yours really made me laugh. I think you are seeing what you want to see and maybe believe to much of what these girls tell you. HK gives the girls plenty of opportunities to make money but most of the girls are lazy. I've said this many times that the biggest competition for HK is girls going online and not need to work in the club. HK has their own site for this but I don't know how much business they get from it. Also the cost of living in Tijuana keeps getting worse, the inflation last month was almost another 6%. So before girls could come to stay in Tijuana and make good money while living there for very little. Now they might make the same but they are paying more to be in Tijuana. So some of the other bars in parts of Mexico might be a better option for them. Since I don't spend much time in Tijuana I can't verify this it's just a theory, what I do know from visiting other bars in Mexico or seeing what's posted is that many of these other bars hire foreigners so its more competition. HK is very loyal to hiring only nationals and some girls respect that.
TerOnlyOnce
08-12-24, 15:21
I am 100% serious! I've been going for years back when the going price was $60. Now the trend is $150 - $200. It is possible to negotiate down a little but like someone else said on this forum, it takes finesse and honestly I feel the whole mood is destroyed already when you're trying to negotiate a price down. Many girls won't budge. Unless you have some chemistry and are a repeat customer to a girl that knows you, goodluck finding anyone hot that will go for less than $150.
I don't mind the prices for the girls. What gets me is the cost of the hotel ($40) and the beers / wine prices the meseros drown you in if you try to sit with a girl rather than just immediately going upstairs. It's nice to spend time sitting with a girl, but with the meseros poaching your wallet every 2 minutes for another $12-40 dollars for another beer / wine glass, the clock is ticking and the fun is dwindling..2 years ago the maximum price used to be $100. And this was for the hottest girls in the club. The ones with the big Brazilian butt lift / fake butts, big round jiggly butt cheeks from their natural fat being injected into their butt. These girls would charge $100.
But if they are now charging $150, that is definitely a quick increase in rates. I have no idea why the price would increase that much in just 2 years. Seems very weird.
Is the service any good at least? Or is the service complete garbage.
If the girls charging that much aren't open to agreeing to give a solid service for that price, then I don't think it's worth it. If it's $150 for "slam, bam, thank you ma'am" type of service where you fuck them for 10 minutes and they don't even take their shoes off or get fully naked, then yea that's not worth it. And honestly that kind of service is not even worth any amount of money in my personal opinion (these days, I only pay for high quality service, and I'm willing to pay top dollar for it).
If you're willing to pay $100-150 more, you could just spend time sourcing sugar babies in your home city and get good quality service that way.
As opposed to paying $150 to source women in HK, who (it seems) to majority only be interested in giving you no better than garbage service in exchange for your $150. I'm sure you can source a hot one that will give excellent service at $150, but I don't think there are that many hot HK girls that would do that.
All depends on what time and money means to you.
The more these hot HK girls push up the price, to $200 per session, $250, $300, $350 etc. The less attractive it becomes to go to HK.
Got to the club last night around 10 pm. Almost immediately ran into Valerie, one of my current favorite girls, she was doing her hour in the chavelas side so I accompanied her for her remaining hour. After spending that time with her I really wanted to bang her so I ended up getting a room for the night figuring if I do 2 Arribas I will have paid less by paying for the entire night instead of ST. After we had an Hour of fun in my room I released her back into the wild thinking I might even bang her again a little later if she happened to be free. After a couple laps I spotted another long time big boobed favorite but she was busy drinking with a client, who eventually took her arriba.
Noticed a new girl dancing on the bar and she looked very familiar but I couldn't remember from where or what at the time. Later on it suddenly clicked she's a dead ringer for this TikTok girl Dixie D’amelio (picture attached). I approached her with a tip and asked if she was into girls. She actually responded in pretty decent English. She said "yes, of course, I'm bisexual" I said oh ok perfect I have a friend around here somewhere maybe we can get together in a little bit if I can track her down, thinking about the first girl I banged since I've already done several threesomes with her. I left to see what she was up to but Unfortunately some guy ended up cuffing her for the rest of her shift. I went back to the Dixie girl and didn't want to spend time vetting her so I got straight to the point and asked how much to go arriba. She said 130. I countered 120 thinking she would accept but she stood firm and said she actually usually charges 150 so she was giving me a "fair" price LOL. Didn't feel like haggling, plus I didn't even know if she would be worth it performance wise, so I told her I was going to make a couple more rounds and come back later. Not long after that I ran into big boobed girl from earlier and said fuck it let's go back to my room so we left and had a pretty good time as well. She made me cum with an unforgettable titty fucking, which we had actually never done before. You would think it would have been one of the first things I ever did with her seeing as how she has an amazing rack. I was pretty tired after that so I crashed out for the rest of the night.
I was going to go back tonight but maybe I'll just stay home and relax, depending on how I feel. Although truthfully that Dixie girl is still on my mind.
BrotherMouzone
08-12-24, 21:16
Nice.
How is the safety around HK and when it comes to taking Ubers or DiDi to and from the border?
Are there stray bullets and sht?
I remember some idiot guys associated with cartels I think got shot like right outside HK, but this may have been a year ago by now.
Is the safety there still ass?LOL. Safety is fine. Never personally had any problems with anyone (policia or gang-related folks) in 12+ years going down to Zona Norte walking around or taking Ubers / DiDi in Tijuana. I feel safe down there, though I do use common sense and take proper precautions.
So you make a girl agree to $100 but you could have them go for $80. First I would be interested to know how you make a girl go for $100. And secondly why you wouldn't make her go for $80? Seems to me your bragging about your ability to get a lower price but your foolishness to pay more than what you need to. If I bought a car I wouldn't go around bragging about the discount I received and at the same time brag that I could have paid even less. It seems to defeat the purpose of bragging about the price you paid.
The second comment of yours really made me laugh. I think you are seeing what you want to see and maybe believe to much of what these girls tell you. HK gives the girls plenty of opportunities to make money but most of the girls are lazy. I've said this many times that the biggest competition for HK is girls going online and not need to work in the club. HK has their own site for this but I don't know how much business they get from it. Also the cost of living in Tijuana keeps getting worse, the inflation last month was almost another 6%. So before girls could come to stay in Tijuana and make good money while living there for very little. Now they might make the same but they are paying more to be in Tijuana. So some of the other bars in parts of Mexico might be a better option for them. Since I don't spend much time in Tijuana I can't verify this it's just a theory, what I do know from visiting other bars in Mexico or seeing what's posted is that many of these other bars hire foreigners so its more competition. HK is very loyal to hiring only nationals and some girls respect that.I was checking the girls if they agree for $100 with no intention of taking them up. Already had 2 panochas and I had no milk left. With ease, for me at least all of them agreed for $100, as I wrote these are the hotter girls, with $80 very possible but did not try it, will try it next time. An amigo of mine screwed a girl all natural for mil pesos on Tuesday night from Tropical. Again takes some skill, you can't be pushy and have to push some of their emotional buttons. If you have seen a guy on the floor and have all this chicas bounce off him smiling ear to ear, that would be me. One girl planted her body on mine while I was standing and and the first thing she whispered in my ear was, tu tienes experiencia, she must have observed what I was doing. I guess I am bragging a bit, but it is delivered for those chodes who foolishly pay $150/30 for a star fish.
As for the 6% inflation in Tijuana, we have the same inflation here with no salary increases. Either way 6% inflation doesn't merit 50 to 100% price increase. HK are seeing their status as the only star club in the area, grabbed all the market and now feel in liberty to charge outrageous amount of fechas from the girls while at the same time telling them they can charge as much as $150 to $200 and that these stupid sex starved US Americans will pay it.
One important note I want to repeat is that the girls look to me more stressed. That is my observation. They seem to be under a lot of pressure from the club to pay up unfair amount to work there.
ABAJoeSmith123
08-13-24, 01:01
2 years ago the maximum price used to be $100. And this was for the hottest girls in the club. The ones with the big Brazilian butt lift / fake butts, big round jiggly butt cheeks from their natural fat being injected into their butt. These girls would charge $100.
But if they are now charging $150, that is definitely a quick increase in rates. I have no idea why the price would increase that much in just 2 years. Seems very weird.
Is the service any good at least? Or is the service complete garbage.
If the girls charging that much aren't open to agreeing to give a solid service for that price, then I don't think it's worth it. If it's $150 for "slam, bam, thank you ma'am" type of service where you fuck them for 10 minutes and they don't even take their shoes off or get fully naked, then yea that's not worth it. And honestly that kind of service is not even worth any amount of money in my personal opinion (these days, I only pay for high quality service, and I'm willing to pay top dollar for it).
If you're willing to pay $100-150 more, you could just spend time sourcing sugar babies in your home city and get good quality service that way.
As opposed to paying $150 to source women in HK, who (it seems) to majority only be interested in giving you no better than garbage service in exchange for your $150. I'm sure you can source a hot one that will give excellent service at $150, but I don't think there are that many hot HK girls that would do that.
All depends on what time and money means to you.
The more these hot HK girls push up the price, to $200 per session, $250, $300, $350 etc. The less attractive it becomes to go to HK.I've had both absolutely terrible service for the $150-200 ladies and also amazing service. I will say that the vast majority of times it's garbage service of just smash and dash for 5-10 minutes. The girls won't smile, put any effort; they just are aggressive and make you climax as fast as possible so they can ditch you and leave. You feel used and have that WTF did I just spend $200 on that feeling.
If it were cheaper I wouldn't mind hte quick smash and dash. But when you're shelling out $50--100 on drinks, $150 for girl, $40 for hotel room, $20 ish in tips, $20 for parking, and uber fees all for a quick 5-10 minutes smash and dash from someone putting no effort, it's not really worth it unless you're absolutely desperate to get fucked.
I've had both absolutely terrible service for the $150-200 ladies and also amazing service. I will say that the vast majority of times it's garbage service of just smash and dash for 5-10 minutes. The girls won't smile, put any effort; they just are aggressive and make you climax as fast as possible so they can ditch you and leave. You feel used and have that WTF did I just spend $200 on that feeling.
If it were cheaper I wouldn't mind hte quick smash and dash. But when you're shelling out $50--100 on drinks, $150 for girl, $40 for hotel room, $20 ish in tips, $20 for parking, and uber fees all for a quick 5-10 minutes smash and dash from someone putting no effort, it's not really worth it unless you're absolutely desperate to get fucked.I wrote before you pay $500 and that won't change one ounce of what type of service you get. It really really really depends on you and her and whether you two can be in a good vibe together. That is it. Almost all women (or all persons with feminine trait) are emotional, they gauge their world via how they feel about a situation.
Usually when you pay a girl what she asks and take her up based on that, you are guaranteed you will get a nasty star fish. That is because it shows to her you are horny when you approached her. Guys that approach while horny pay higher and get bad service. Approach and contact her with a good vibe, qualify her, state your price and stay firm, if she agrees then usually the service will be better. Also pay after not before.
TerOnlyOnce
08-13-24, 17:14
I've had both absolutely terrible service for the $150-200 ladies and also amazing service. I will say that the vast majority of times it's garbage service of just smash and dash for 5-10 minutes. The girls won't smile, put any effort; they just are aggressive and make you climax as fast as possible so they can ditch you and leave. You feel used and have that WTF did I just spend $200 on that feeling.
If it were cheaper I wouldn't mind hte quick smash and dash. But when you're shelling out $50--100 on drinks, $150 for girl, $40 for hotel room, $20 ish in tips, $20 for parking, and uber fees all for a quick 5-10 minutes smash and dash from someone putting no effort, it's not really worth it unless you're absolutely desperate to get fucked.Well said, I've experienced similar while I was there on my past few trips to the zona / HK. This was years ago, back in 2021 and 2022. So seems like the service is still garbage on average and hasn't improved.
I will say though that I did have a few sessions that were really really good, so that still happens. But those sessions were like 1 for every 5 or 6 sessions. So for the most part, I agree, the service will most likely be garbage.
With that being said, it seems like HK has gone to shit, or a better phrasing would be that it has remained shit compared to years ago. I'm leaning towards not making another trip now that I've heard this intel from you guys. Thanks for the heads up.
I wrote before you pay $500 and that won't change one ounce of what type of service you get. It really really really depends on you and her and whether you two can be in a good vibe together. That is it. Almost all women (or all persons with feminine trait) are emotional, they gauge their world via how they feel about a situation.
Usually when you pay a girl what she asks and take her up based on that, you are guaranteed you will get a nasty star fish. That is because it shows to her you are horny when you approached her. Guys that approach while horny pay higher and get bad service. Approach and contact her with a good vibe, qualify her, state your price and stay firm, if she agrees then usually the service will be better. Also pay after not before.I do think there are mongering locations that exist in the world where you can show up, discuss what you would like, get the price quote from the girl, and then actually get a good quality service and leave happily.
HK just isn't that place though. Finding a place where you can consistently get good service is a gem. You shouldn't have to fight for it every time. Going to places like HK makes you believe that you need to fight to get good service when you are paying and are willing to pay.
It screws up your perception because the standard in HK is to deliver garbage service. That just means you're going to garbage mongering locations. Has nothing to do with the concept of wanting to consistently pay a woman to get good service out of her.
The other thing that hasn't been brought up is how out of towners or inexperienced mongers also fuck up the pricing of the girls. There's this HK girl I've gotten to know pretty well in particular, just within the last couple weeks she told me about two incidents with clients. A friend of hers reached out to her for a threesome. She said she never quoted him anything since she trusted her friend who said he was a good client. He ended up giving her $200 for roughly 45 minutes, 30 of which they were just chatting. He offered her DOUBLE for BBFS but she declined. Or so she says, which I'll give her the benefit of the doubt since I havent caught her in a lie yet. Either way, that particular price offering is insane.
Another recent instance she told me about was this out of towner in his 50's who took her arriba. She never quoted him anything because he never asked and seemed like a decent guy. He ended up giving her $300 unprompted.
A few months back another girl Ive known for a while from Chicago told me she had a client who flew in from new York who had never been to the zona so he basically knew nothing. He gave her $500. She admitted to giving him a BBBJ but no BBFS, which even if she did do BBFS, for that kind of money who could blame her.
So it's no wonder that aside from inflation, these girls think $150 isn't too bad for us living in the states when we have guys like that throwing money around.
The other thing that hasn't been brought up is how out of towners or inexperienced mongers also fuck up the pricing of the girls. There's this HK girl I've gotten to know pretty well in particular, just within the last couple weeks she told me about two incidents with clients. A friend of hers reached out to her for a threesome. She said she never quoted him anything since she trusted her friend who said he was a good client. He ended up giving her $200 for roughly 45 minutes, 30 of which they were just chatting. He offered her DOUBLE for BBFS but she declined. Or so she says, which I'll give her the benefit of the doubt since I havent caught her in a lie yet. Either way, that particular price offering is insane.
Another recent instance she told me about was this out of towner in his 50's who took her arriba. She never quoted him anything because he never asked and seemed like a decent guy. He ended up giving her $300 unprompted.
A few months back another girl Ive known for a while from Chicago told me she had a client who flew in from new York who had never been to the zona so he basically knew nothing. He gave her $500. She admitted to giving him a BBBJ but no BBFS, which even if she did do BBFS, for that kind of money who could blame her.
So it's no wonder that aside from inflation, these girls think $150 isn't too bad for us living in the states when we have guys like that throwing money around.Also US pussy prices have skyrocketed for both providers and regular girls. The best seeking deal I found was $300 ppm. The US pros are even more expensive. Guaranteed the mexican girls know the cost of US girls.
TerOnlyOnce
08-14-24, 01:26
Also US pussy prices have skyrocketed for both providers and regular girls. The best seeking deal I found was $300 ppm. The US pros are even more expensive. Guaranteed the mexican girls know the cost of US girls.Seeking is not bad, I would say it depends on where you live.
For example, if you can get excellent service for $200-300 on seeking in your home town, then that would probably be better than traveling to HK and having to pay the girls there $100-150.
Factoring in the cost of flight and hotel basically increases your average rate to around $200-300 anyway. This is why it may be better to just pay a higher PPM to a girl on seeking.
In terms of where you would get better service. A girl from seeking or an HK girl. I would say that it seems it would vary widely.
In both cases though I do think you would have to grind through girls regardless. Meaning you would have to message a bunch of them, see which ones are receptive, let them know you can provide a good rate, etc. And on the HK side you would have to approach the girls, buy them drinks to talk to them, see which one is receiptive and willing to provide a good service, etc.
The same level of grinding. I wouldn't say one would be significantly smoother or easier to grind compared to the other.
BrotherMouzone
08-14-24, 01:54
2 years ago the maximum price used to be $100. And this was for the hottest girls in the club. The ones with the big Brazilian butt lift / fake butts, big round jiggly butt cheeks from their natural fat being injected into their butt. These girls would charge $100.
But if they are now charging $150, that is definitely a quick increase in rates. I have no idea why the price would increase that much in just 2 years. Seems very weird.
1) Highest inflation since the Jimmy Carter administration, which began after COVID.
2) USA Dollar trending weaker the past couple of years vs. Mexican peso (though dollar has rebounded nicely the past 4 months or so).
3) Basic supply and demand. As far as I know the prices had been pretty much constant since well before even the early 2010's when I started going to Tijuana until just a few years ago. They were bound to increase at some point. Americans and rich foreigners are generally more than willing to pay even more than the prices as they are currently so would expect them to go up even further at some point. Think some of it is more people finding out about HK / Zona Norte, some of it is the ever-incresing dominance of HK and its affiliated clubs in the Zona Norte market (I. E. , monopolies lead to higher prices). Capitalism at work. It is what it is. Agree that it's not quite what it used to be when I first started going but I'm only in Tijuana three times or so a year anyway. Still a great time for me, LOL.
1) Highest inflation since the Jimmy Carter administration, which began after COVID.
2) USA Dollar trending weaker the past couple of years vs. Mexican peso (though dollar has rebounded nicely the past 4 months or so).
3) Basic supply and demand. As far as I know the prices had been pretty much constant since well before even the early 2010's when I started going to Tijuana until just a few years ago. They were bound to increase at some point. Americans and rich foreigners are generally more than willing to pay even more than the prices as they are currently so would expect them to go up even further at some point. Think some of it is more people finding out about HK / Zona Norte, some of it is the ever-incresing dominance of HK and its affiliated clubs in the Zona Norte market (I. E. , monopolies lead to higher prices). Capitalism at work. It is what it is. Agree that it's not quite what it used to be when I first started going but I'm only in Tijuana three times or so a year anyway. Still a great time for me, LOL.Just like Spirit Airlines is now breaking the back of SW who now has become a main stream expensive airlines, if an airline makes it easy for Mongers from the west coast of the US to reach South American destinations, HK will be a toasted Bun in no time.
Lots of guys will be put off by these prices now quoted on the floor, 130,140, 150,160, 170,200, 250. Come on, you add room prices to all of these it becomes a joke. HK can become like Deja Vu someday where the regular monger never sets foot.
There is no question the mood of the girls is more intense these days, the normal exuberance we are used to is gone. The girls are stressed, tired and anxious. Bummer!
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