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I personally wouldn't go anywhere near the free transport / shuttle provided by Hong Kong. Maybe it's just me, but to me, It's just too tacky of a thing I would want anyone to see me getting into or out of. Especially with all the hooker bar advertisements on the sides of it. Not very classy or discreet at all.HK Limo rides are awesome.
They are also stress free.
I almost had an incident with an angry taxi guy once. So I will take the Limo any time it is available.
Limo rides are a great for me to start and end my Tijuana trips.
The stretch limo, when available, is a really cool experience.
I was in Tijuana for the first time in over 20 years the weekend before last. Always wanted to and was tempted to go but didn't until I found a buddy that was down, he had actually been there a few times before we went so he kinda knew the ropes but we are both still learning.
Had a blast, it definitely exceeded my expectations. I can't see myself dating girls in the states anymore, I'll maybe see 1 or 2 regulars that I know but as far as anyone new, I'm done. No way I'm going to pay at least twice as much for service that will not exceed what I got in Tijuana. No more BS attitudes, girls showing up 1 hour late or ghosting you when you text for their ETA. One of the women I saw there was one of the hottest I've seen in a long time, pair that with her service and she was definitely top 5 I've had in the last 10 years. I live in Vegas and it's more that worth the drive or flight. In the long run it will also save me lots of money as it will just about stop my spending here, allowing me to splurge when I get down there yet still come out way ahead!
Baxter Slade
11-20-24, 04:19
I understand your point of view as I have never used it but I usually drive across. Like others have said nobody knows you or cares. Also the club may offer sex but many guys just go to enjoy the strip club side of it. I often think I might run into someone I know Yea who is going to see you? Really probably nothing to worry about. The HK shuttle is great for sure take advantage.
How embarassing. I ran into a client down in the zona norte about 10 years ago. Well not really embarassing, we just discovered we had something in common. To this day when I run into him, in a whisper we compare notes on the latest on what's up in the zona.
I was in Tijuana for the first time in over 20 years the weekend before last. Always wanted to and was tempted to go but didn't until I found a buddy that was down, he had actually been there a few times before we went so he kinda knew the ropes but we are both still learning.
Had a blast, it definitely exceeded my expectations. I can't see myself dating girls in the states anymore, I'll maybe see 1 or 2 regulars that I know but as far as anyone new, I'm done. No way I'm going to pay at least twice as much for service that will not exceed what I got in Tijuana. No more BS attitudes, girls showing up 1 hour late or ghosting you when you text for their ETA. One of the women I saw there was one of the hottest I've seen in a long time, pair that with her service and she was definitely top 5 I've had in the last 10 years. I live in Vegas and it's more that worth the drive or flight. In the long run it will also save me lots of money as it will just about stop my spending here, allowing me to splurge when I get down there yet still come out way ahead!20 years! Whew. How is the divorce going?
Hey have a good time and make sure you don't pay LV money to these girls in HK. Stick with $100/30 m.
US women? I won't touch them with a long stick let alone with my Mboro. Are you watching this show called "Pop the ballong" saw some part of it recently. What a shit show we have in the US, our women have mentally gone astray. Gone!
Hey Gents, it has been close to 10 years since I was in San Diego and visited HK. In the before time, I would park at the Jack in the Box near the pedestrian border, use only my DL to get in and out of the country, grab a taxi waiting on the Mexico side for $5 and head to HK. Any changes? Pedestrian crossing still active? Mexico taxi prices still around $5 USD? HK prices still the same?The Jack in the Box parking lot is still there, and a lot others now. Everything is about the same except the prices, inflations hits everything and everyone, forget about $5 bucks for everything.
I buy drinks for a HK lady, go upstairs, come back a few days later, buy drinks, go upstairs, discuss going out to dinner before work next time, before her shift.
After dinner, talk about travel.
Arrange to do an overnighter on a day off.
Arrange to go to the DF for a few days. If that works.
Arrange to go to Cancun. If that works.
Arrange to go to Brazil for a month. If that works.
Go Thailand.Yeah, and If that works, travel the world with her non-stop for two years and start your own youtube channel documenting your journey.
I think your plan has a good chance of succeeding but is highly unrealistic, seeing that most people don't have the time or money to do all that–at least not in a short time span.
Explorer8939
11-21-24, 10:33
Yeah, and If that works, travel the world with her non-stop for two years and start your own youtube channel documenting your journey.
I think your plan has a good chance of succeeding but is highly unrealistic, seeing that most people don't have the time or money to do all thatat least not in a short time span.The process is ongoing, as I only come to Tijuana a few times a year. We have done the DF and Cancun.
No way to do 2 years, her husband would object.
I was in Tijuana for the first time in over 20 years the weekend before last. Always wanted to and was tempted to go but didn't until I found a buddy that was down, he had actually been there a few times before we went so he kinda knew the ropes but we are both still learning.
Had a blast, it definitely exceeded my expectations. I can't see myself dating girls in the states anymore, I'll maybe see 1 or 2 regulars that I know but as far as anyone new, I'm done. No way I'm going to pay at least twice as much for service that will not exceed what I got in Tijuana. No more BS attitudes, girls showing up 1 hour late or ghosting you when you text for their ETA. One of the women I saw there was one of the hottest I've seen in a long time, pair that with her service and she was definitely top 5 I've had in the last 10 years. I live in Vegas and it's more that worth the drive or flight. In the long run it will also save me lots of money as it will just about stop my spending here, allowing me to splurge when I get down there yet still come out way ahead!You go to PI, LOS, BZ, CR, Col, Indo, JPN, CH. And other playgrounds around the world. I mongered since 1994 on an off.
Have fun Enjoy the Ride.
GL.
CurrentlyInBKK.
Litmus Smut
11-22-24, 01:07
To the mathematicians out there:
When tipping the waiters or doormen with $1 or 20 peso notes.
At what exchange rate is it better to use $1?
At what exchange rate is it better to use 20 pesos?
StubbornMule
11-22-24, 02:34
Hi guys,
I will probably be in Tijuana for a few days starting this Sunday. Are there any HK girls you recommend? The girls I saw on my last few trips which I recommend are Peggy, Nasa, Lili, and Mafer.
20 years! Whew. How is the divorce going?
Hey have a good time and make sure you don't pay LV money to these girls in HK. Stick with $100/30 m.
US women? I won't touch them with a long stick let alone with my Mboro. Are you watching this show called "Pop the ballong" saw some part of it recently. What a shit show we have in the US, our women have mentally gone astray. Gone!Oh, I'm definitely not doing that. Passed up a few that wanted 150 for the ones that asked for 100. I agree, the women in the states have lost their minds. I have seen SW's here in Vegas asking 200 for a car date! Online is usually 250. In the casino's they start at about 500.
Hi guys,
I will probably be in Tijuana for a few days starting this Sunday. Are there any HK girls you recommend? The girls I saw on my last few trips which I recommend are Peggy, Nasa, Lili, and Mafer.Try Tanya, Zafira, Ikura and Dubai.
To the mathematicians out there:
When tipping the waiters or doormen with $1 or 20 peso notes.
At what exchange rate is it better to use $1?
At what exchange rate is it better to use 20 pesos?They don't like giving changes back and no coins.
To the mathematicians out there:
When tipping the waiters or doormen with $1 or 20 peso notes.
At what exchange rate is it better to use $1?
At what exchange rate is it better to use 20 pesos?Right now since the exchange rate is at 1 x20 there is no difference, however if the pesos keeps losing value and the dollar goes higher it would be cheaper to use 20 peso notes.
Doe anyone have any info regarding the hotels close to HK? I stayed across the street at Rizo earlier this month. My first time there but I'm not 21 and don't plan on spending a lot of time at HK so I'd like a hotel that's a bit nicer as I will be spending a decent amount of time there relaxing, you know something with windows and maybe a couch. When I booked my room at Rizo, the description said there was a couch in the room, there was not. I learned a long time about that arguing with businesses in Mexico isn't a great idea so I just let it go. The elevator was also not working. I was on the lower floor but my buddy was on the 5th floor, he was not happy.
I've looked at some hotels but I'm wondering if they allow girls to come to your room, I've heard that some will not. I met a few at HK who are willing to see me at a hotel. I assume girls from HK are not willing or allowed to go to other hotels while they are working at HK. Anybody had good results seeing a HK girl when she's not working at the club?
I've also seen some online agencies and ads, surprising there are plenty of review out there but once again this will depend on the hotel.
I think I'm going to stay at Rizo for one night then at another hotel for 2 nights.
Haven't been to Tijuana in many many years would like to go down there and check it out and have some fun would like to go with somebody that's been going there a while kind of knows what's up thanks peace.
Kevinburnz
11-23-24, 16:48
To the mathematicians out there:
When tipping the waiters or doormen with $1 or 20 peso notes.
At what exchange rate is it better to use $1?
At what exchange rate is it better to use 20 pesos?It's better not to waste so much time and energy and brain cells on saving a few pennies. Literally pennies.
PoundHound
11-23-24, 20:05
Heading to Tijuana and HK on December 7-9 if anyone wants a wingman this will be my 6 trip.
StubbornMule
11-23-24, 21:58
Try Tanya, Zafira, Ikura and Dubai.Thanks for the recs, this is super helpful! Any experience with Hera or Moet? I have seen their names on this forum.
Thanks for the recs, this is super helpful! Any experience with Hera or Moet? I have seen their names on this forum.They change names like clouds change form. Forget about names. In fact they tell you one name and walk to the next guy and tell him a different name. Few girls keep persistent names, like Tanya.
Captain Solo
11-24-24, 02:19
Will be in hk this Sunday Nov 24 with couple wingmen from about noon to midnight.
Will sit on main floor near the stage, black cap with lip stick. Ask mesero Pollo or front desk guy if you can't find me.
Come by and say Hello,. Will be fun.
Haven't been to Tijuana in many many years would like to go down there and check it out and have some fun would like to go with somebody that's been going there a while kind of knows what's up thanks peace.
Will be in hk this Sunday Nov 24 with couple wingmen from about noon to midnight.
Will sit on main floor near the stage, black cap with lip stick. Ask mesero Pollo or front desk guy if you can't find me.
Come by and say Hello,. Will be fun.12 hrs straight? Dang!
Will be in hk this Sunday Nov 24 with couple wingmen from about noon to midnight.
Will sit on main floor near the stage, black cap with lip stick. Ask mesero Pollo or front desk guy if you can't find me.
Come by and say Hello,. Will be fun.I'll try to join you, I've always been curious of meeting some of the Tijuana's forum members.
Doe anyone have any info regarding the hotels close to HK? I stayed across the street at Rizo earlier this month. My first time there but I'm not 21 and don't plan on spending a lot of time at HK so I'd like a hotel that's a bit nicer as I will be spending a decent amount of time there relaxing, you know something with windows and maybe a couch. When I booked my room at Rizo, the description said there was a couch in the room, there was not. I learned a long time about that arguing with businesses in Mexico isn't a great idea so I just let it go. The elevator was also not working. I was on the lower floor but my buddy was on the 5th floor, he was not happy.
I've looked at some hotels but I'm wondering if they allow girls to come to your room, I've heard that some will not. I met a few at HK who are willing to see me at a hotel. I assume girls from HK are not willing or allowed to go to other hotels while they are working at HK. Anybody had good results seeing a HK girl when she's not working at the club?
I've also seen some online agencies and ads, surprising there are plenty of review out there but once again this will depend on the hotel.
I think I'm going to stay at Rizo for one night then at another hotel for 2 nights.If you don't want to stay in any hotel in la zona your best bet is Hotel Ticuáand and Hotel Pueblo Amigo, but you will have to take a taxi / uber every time you want to go to HK / zona.
Also you can stay at the grand hotel tijuana which is a little more upscale. All Hotel Pueblo Amigo and the Grand girls can go up to your room because the front desk isn't in front of the elevators so nobody notices, the Hotel Ticuáand is girl friendly and girl have to register at the front desk, but they will let them through.
If you don't want to stay in any hotel in la zona your best bet is Hotel Ticuand and Hotel Pueblo Amigo, but you will have to take a taxi / uber every time you want to go to HK / zona.
Also you can stay at the grand hotel tijuana which is a little more upscale. All Hotel Pueblo Amigo and the Grand girls can go up to your room because the front desk isn't in front of the elevators so nobody notices, the Hotel Ticuand is girl friendly and girl have to register at the front desk, but they will let them through.I hated the experience taking girls up in Ticuan. They all look at you, including the front security guys, the restaurant servers, the front desk and guests sitting around, you feel like the iconic piece of shit by the time you make it to the elevators specially if you are a regular there. The feeling is not the same as one you get in Zona club Hotels.
Don't know of Pueblo but I preferred the experience in Palcio Azteca as the front desk is facing away from the walkway to the elevators and no one notices. You can even hit the bar without entering the lobby. Also they treat you and your girl like regular guests since it is away from all the stigma of centro, Ticuan is in centro and so are sensitive to it.
I advise people to stay in Cas and Rizo, no better option really unless one goes to a good love motel. In Cas and Rizo there are really good quality rooms and you are encouraged to bring as many as girls you can and you will be treated like the roaring Lion that your are for doing so.
I am not sure what they are called, there is men and women employees who drag the girls to the tables and order them to dance. This particular one, a short fugly one, a lesbian who wears her hair blond, what is up with her? People know about this mofo or is it only me seeing issues with her? Apparently she likes some of the girls and doesn't like it when mongers mess with them. Saw her snatching girls away from dudes. WTF!
I hated the experience taking girls up in Ticuan. They all look at you, including the front security guys, the restaurant servers, the front desk and guests sitting around, you feel like the iconic piece of shit by the time you make it to the elevators specially if you are a regular there. The feeling is not the same as one you get in Zona club Hotels.
Don't know of Pueblo but I preferred the experience in Palcio Azteca as the front desk is facing away from the walkway to the elevators and no one notices. You can even hit the bar without entering the lobby. Also they treat you and your girl like regular guests since it is away from all the stigma of centro, Ticuan is in centro and so are sensitive to it.
I advise people to stay in Cas and Rizo, no better option really unless one goes to a good love motel. In Cas and Rizo there are really good quality rooms and you are encouraged to bring as many as girls you can and you will be treated like the roaring Lion that your are for doing so.In our line of entertainment you can't be thin skinned. As long as its legal walk with your date with your head held high and don't forget to smile.
Explorer8939
11-25-24, 14:43
If the peso declines in value significantly, I will have to revise my vow to avoid HK and make a trip to Tijuana.
MikeyVee123
11-25-24, 15:15
I hated the experience taking girls up in Ticuan. They all look at you, including the front security guys, the restaurant servers, the front desk and guests sitting around, you feel like the iconic piece of shit by the time you make it to the elevators specially if you are a regular there. The feeling is not the same as one you get in Zona club Hotels.
Don't know of Pueblo but I preferred the experience in Palcio Azteca as the front desk is facing away from the walkway to the elevators and no one notices. You can even hit the bar without entering the lobby. Also they treat you and your girl like regular guests since it is away from all the stigma of centro, Ticuan is in centro and so are sensitive to it.
I advise people to stay in Cas and Rizo, no better option really unless one goes to a good love motel. In Cas and Rizo there are really good quality rooms and you are encouraged to bring as many as girls you can and you will be treated like the roaring Lion that your are for doing so.I usually go for 2-3 nights, get a room at cascadas and another close by to actually sleep / rest / stash my stuff. It's impossible to sleep in cascadas and I hate leaving anything but the bare minimum in the room because most of them have fkkn roaches. There are a couple newer hotels within walking distance (half as far as the ticuan) that are rea $onable. One is called hotel west plaza and the other hotel wellintown, both basic but good enough for some solid rest.
I usually go for 2-3 nights, get a room at cascadas and another close by to actually sleep / rest / stash my stuff. It's impossible to sleep in cascadas and I hate leaving anything but the bare minimum in the room because most of them have fkkn roaches. There are a couple newer hotels within walking distance (half as far as the ticuan) that are rea $onable. One is called hotel west plaza and the other hotel wellintown, both basic but good enough for some solid rest.My problem with Cas and Rizo rooms is not the noise but the lack of windows. Feels like you are in a prison cell. I personally do not like those rooms. If I stay, I stay with rooms with windows, the Master Suites in Cas all of them have big windows and they are cheaper on Mondays and Tuesdays with VIP. Rizo pretty much doesn't have rooms with windows except very few of. Most rooms in centro hotels have noise issues, including Ticuan.
I used to stay in Palacio, Ticuan, Aqua Rio, Hotel España (Rio Rita), Cesars, now I just stay in either Rizo or Cas, much more convenient. I get a room in upper floors and I will be set. Use sheets to cover the bed while doing the nasty, clean the room thoroughly and make the bed after each deed so I can rest, chill and sleep there. In fact I spend more time in the room rather than the clubs. I can say I pass by the clubs, I never stay more than an hour each time. Dulls my libido sitting and watching all that feminine body for hours.
Stopped by the zona last night for a couple hours. I thought one of my Chicago girls was going to be on the clock, but turns out she wasn't. That's what I get for not texting ahead of time. Slid over to HK and saw one of my ATF's heading up to the girls locker room and figured I would catch her when she came back down, but she never returned. Guess she got off duty. Could have texted her as well but I wanted to see what else popped up. Ended up passing by a very pretty blonde, white looking, a solid 8. 5 or 9. Slim, all natural with just enough curves. She reached out to get my attention and said vamos a comer, translated to english it literally means let's go eat. I thought it was a super odd opening line and didn't really make much sense with no context. Even though she was pretty I continued on my way maneuvering around the club on the hunt for more of a sure fire thing. Spotted another pretty girl drinking with some guy and she seemed like a winner. My mongering sixth sense was activated. Just what I was looking for. Made sure to get a good look at her and lock her in my memory to talk to her on a future visit. The guy she was with cuffed her for the rest of the night. Bastard. Ran into the blonde again later on and she pulled me in asking to take her arriba. She promised an amazing blow job with swallow, but for some reason I didn’t take her for her word. Who knows, she could have been telling the truth, but in the moment it seemed like something she was just pulling out of her ass to get me to go arriba. I asked for her name and I believe she said Geisha. Maybe I'll invite her for a drink next time or one of you guys can give her a shot, just make sure to let me know how it went lol. I went back to Chicago one last time and nobody really caught my attention. One final lap around HK after that and decided to call it a night although it seemed things were starting to pick up a little. Figured I would save my money for an all nighter I'm going to pull with another one of my chicas in a couple of days.
If you don't want to stay in any hotel in la zona your best bet is Hotel Ticuand and Hotel Pueblo Amigo, but you will have to take a taxi / uber every time you want to go to HK / zona.
Also you can stay at the grand hotel tijuana which is a little more upscale. All Hotel Pueblo Amigo and the Grand girls can go up to your room because the front desk isn't in front of the elevators so nobody notices, the Hotel Ticuand is girl friendly and girl have to register at the front desk, but they will let them through.For my short time going to Tijuana. I did not take a taxi to HK from Ticun. I walked all the way there and back. LOL great experience each time LOL.
Taxis are a rip off.
Daytonamonger
11-26-24, 06:06
Are you sure she said Vamos a comer or did she say Vamos a cojer. 1 letter difference makes a BIG difference in what she was offering. Vamos a cojer means lets go fuck!
Stopped by the zona last night for a couple hours. I thought one of my Chicago girls was going to be on the clock, but turns out she wasn't. That's what I get for not texting ahead of time. Slid over to HK and saw one of my ATF's heading up to the girls locker room and figured I would catch her when she came back down, but she never returned. Guess she got off duty. Could have texted her as well but I wanted to see what else popped up. Ended up passing by a very pretty blonde, white looking, a solid 8. 5 or 9. Slim, all natural with just enough curves. She reached out to get my attention and said vamos a comer, translated to english it literally means let's go eat. I thought it was a super odd opening line and didn't really make much sense with no context. Even though she was pretty I continued on my way maneuvering around the club on the hunt for more of a sure fire thing. Spotted another pretty girl drinking with some guy and she seemed like a winner. My mongering sixth sense was activated. Just what I was looking for. Made sure to get a good look at her and lock her in my memory to talk to her on a future visit. The guy she was with cuffed her for the rest of the night. Bastard. Ran into the blonde again later on and she pulled me in asking to take her arriba. She promised an amazing blow job with swallow, but for some reason I didnt take her for her word. Who knows, she could have been telling the truth, but in the moment it seemed like something she was just pulling out of her ass to get me to go arriba. I asked for her name and I believe she said Geisha. Maybe I'll invite her for a drink next time or one of you guys can give her a shot, just make sure to let me know how it went lol. I went back to Chicago one last time and nobody really caught my attention. One final lap around HK after that and decided to call it a night although it seemed things were starting to pick up a little. Figured I would save my money for an all nighter I'm going to pull with another one of my chicas in a couple of days.
Are you sure she said Vamos a comer or did she say Vamos a cojer. 1 letter difference makes a BIG difference in what she was offering. Vamos a cojer means lets go fuck!Yeah, the way you put it makes sense but she clearly said comer which kind of threw me off. Maybe it was just a freudian slip on her part because she was actually hungry LOL.
Yeah, the way you put it makes sense but she clearly said comer which kind of threw me off. Maybe it was just a freudian slip on her part because she was actually hungry LOL.It could have also been her pick up line since it does make most guys stop and talk to her. For example if she says that and the guy stops to ask her what she wants to eat and my guess is she would say tu or tu verga. These girls have to come up with original ways to get the attention of clients. My last visit had a girl tell me she "wants to fuck me. " Well for me that's just a huge turn off so I just ignored her, but I guess it works for her or she wouldn't be saying it.
MacNCheeze
11-26-24, 17:18
I asked for her name and I believe she said Geisha.It's been over a year but I've seen Geisha before. I can't vouch for the swallow part, but I had a good time with her. She's cute, good friendly vibes, would repeat with her.
AmericanPi
11-27-24, 19:08
Normally it's me giving guidance on girl friendly hotels. And do feel free to ask. I've tried quite a few. But I want to solicit the wisdom of the elders here.
Does anyone know of hotels in Tijuana that are both girl friendly and have 1-bedroom suites? Not the kind of suite that is just a larger room like Ticuan or Grand, but are true 1-bedrooms with a separate room and door for the bedroom?
I might be staying a while and I want a separate work area. And I don't want to do Airbnb because those tend to have front desks that make bringing girls in harder (registration). A hotel with separate bedroom would be amazing if anyone knows one.
Normally it's me giving guidance on girl friendly hotels. And do feel free to ask. I've tried quite a few. But I want to solicit the wisdom of the elders here.
Does anyone know of hotels in Tijuana that are both girl friendly and have 1-bedroom suites? Not the kind of suite that is just a larger room like Ticuan or Grand, but are true 1-bedrooms with a separate room and door for the bedroom?
I might be staying a while and I want a separate work area. And I don't want to do Airbnb because those tend to have front desks that make bringing girls in harder (registration). A hotel with separate bedroom would be amazing if anyone knows one.Cascadas have what you look for in the 9th floor. Did you check? Nice ones too.
Holiday Inn in zona Rio have Master Suites, exactly what you look for. Girl friendly.
These I know about, there would be more I am sure. Wait for others to chime in.
Normally it's me giving guidance on girl friendly hotels. And do feel free to ask. I've tried quite a few. But I want to solicit the wisdom of the elders here.
Does anyone know of hotels in Tijuana that are both girl friendly and have 1-bedroom suites? Not the kind of suite that is just a larger room like Ticuan or Grand, but are true 1-bedrooms with a separate room and door for the bedroom?
I might be staying a while and I want a separate work area. And I don't want to do Airbnb because those tend to have front desks that make bringing girls in harder (registration). A hotel with separate bedroom would be amazing if anyone knows one.I have stayed in LOTS of AirBnBs around the world. Very few have a front desk. The ones in condo buildings do. Private houses do not. However, many agencies will not send girls to private residences. And the neighbors may not care for hookers traipsing in and out every day. But if you don't make a nuisance of yourself then you'll be OK.
Normally it's me giving guidance on girl friendly hotels. And do feel free to ask. I've tried quite a few. But I want to solicit the wisdom of the elders here.
Does anyone know of hotels in Tijuana that are both girl friendly and have 1-bedroom suites? Not the kind of suite that is just a larger room like Ticuan or Grand, but are true 1-bedrooms with a separate room and door for the bedroom?
I might be staying a while and I want a separate work area. And I don't want to do Airbnb because those tend to have front desks that make bringing girls in harder (registration). A hotel with separate bedroom would be amazing if anyone knows one.Never needed such a room in Tijuana but in the past would get a junior suite at Pueblo Amigo which is very girl friendly. Looked at the website and if you look at some of the suites it looked like they have what you are looking for. Tijuana has lots of new hotels that are higher end that might work in just not familiar with them.
AmericanPi
11-28-24, 13:38
Cascadas have what you look for in the 9th floor. Did you check? Nice ones too.
Holiday Inn in zona Rio have Master Suites, exactly what you look for. Girl friendly.
These I know about, there would be more I am sure. Wait for others to chime in.Thanks. That's what I just booked.
AmericanPi
11-28-24, 13:40
I have stayed in LOTS of AirBnBs around the world. Very few have a front desk. The ones in condo buildings do. Private houses do not. However, many agencies will not send girls to private residences. And the neighbors may not care for hookers traipsing in and out every day. But if you don't make a nuisance of yourself then you'll be OK.I've done Airbnb's all over the world too. The problem is that in Tijuana I think all the nice Airbnb's are in towers for security reasons. Which means front desks to keep out unauthorized guests.
I've done Airbnb's all over the world too. The problem is that in Tijuana I think all the nice Airbnb's are in towers for security reasons. Which means front desks to keep out unauthorized guests.There are loads of nice AirBnBs in private residences. Most are quite nice inside. Of course, none of them are in Centro, or in the Zona Norte.
Thanks. That's what I just booked.Which one? For how much per night?
I had 4 nights in Tijuana and booked a room as recommended at the Cascada hotel.
When I booked the room I got an email confirming my request, but not a direct confirmation that I had been given a room.
I still got a room even though it was actually fully booked upon arrival. Is it common to get a formal confirmation that you have been given a room? Not only the standard response that I got?
I had an incredibly good experience over the weekend, but Monday and Tuesday were nowhere near as fun. Half the place was closed and there were a lot fewer ladies.
I agree that the girls who work during the day are often better on weekdays.
I never found any girls I liked in Chicago or Tropicana.
I can't stand American throwing dollars at strippers. What's the point of this? They look like the girls think they are cool. Like a stupid hip hop video. It doesn't even look like the girls really think it's that cool.
The hottest ladies charge at least $150, and I had to go up to $200 sometimes with no chance of negotiating the price down.
And no one agreed to a BJ without a condom and no one agreed to kissing. The slightly more tired ladies kissed at the bar, but not the young, nicest ladies.
I also think some of the people working at the hotel at the reception are not very friendly!
A local tipped me off about Deja Vu, a big club a few kilometers towards the border. Great premises, but few and no hot ladies. Wasted!
In the quite big street with Burger King and Domino Pizza, I tried both massage parlors. For only $25-30 I got a good traditional massage in both places. No erotic, but good!
Sone years ago there was a strip club on this street where I had some of my best experiences. The club was about halfway up the street, across from Burger King and into a small corridor and down into a basement with a big stage and rooms for hanky panky. There was a super hot girl named Speransa. Does anyone remember the place and know if the club just moved and if Esperansa is still active somewhere? She has deactivated Facebook and previous phone number.
Up the same street there was also a erotic masage saloon on a corner with hot girls. I could not find it. Permanently gone?
I was very happy with my Tijuana reunion and besides the best FKK clubs in Germany, HK is still a great experience. I can live with covered BJ and the girls not kissing, but is there anything else of the same quality other places?
I had a solid downfall in Mexico City where none of the escort girls had matching pictures and street hookers are a bigger risk and only the girls in Sulivan street will join you to your hotel. The other places the girls have their own hotels and the locals warn about the risks of using the girls' rooms.
I would like to experience more such sexy places like HK and would appreciate suggestions for my next trip. Thanks for help with my Tijuana comeback experience!
I had 4 nights in Tijuana and booked a room as recommended at the Cascada hotel.
When I booked the room I got an email confirming my request, but not a direct confirmation that I had been given a room.
I still got a room even though it was actually fully booked upon arrival. Is it common to get a formal confirmation that you have been given a room? Not only the standard response that I got?
I had an incredibly good experience over the weekend, but Monday and Tuesday were nowhere near as fun. Half the place was closed and there were a lot fewer ladies.
I agree that the girls who work during the day are often better on weekdays.
I never found any girls I liked in Chicago or Tropicana.
I can't stand American throwing dollars at strippers. What's the point of this? They look like the girls think they are cool. Like a stupid hip hop video. It doesn't even look like the girls really think it's that cool.
The hottest ladies charge at least $150, and I had to go up to $200 sometimes with no chance of negotiating the price down.
And no one agreed to a BJ without a condom and no one agreed to kissing. The slightly more tired ladies kissed at the bar, but not the young, nicest ladies.
I also think some of the people working at the hotel at the reception are not very friendly!
A local tipped me off about Deja Vu, a big club a few kilometers towards the border. Great premises, but few and no hot ladies. Wasted!
In the quite big street with Burger King and Domino Pizza, I tried both massage parlors. For only $25-30 I got a good traditional massage in both places. No erotic, but good!
Sone years ago there was a strip club on this street where I had some of my best experiences. The club was about halfway up the street, across from Burger King and into a small corridor and down into a basement with a big stage and rooms for hanky panky. There was a super hot girl named Speransa. Does anyone remember the place and know if the club just moved and if Esperansa is still active somewhere? She has deactivated Facebook and previous phone number.
Up the same street there was also a erotic masage saloon on a corner with hot girls. I could not find it. Permanently gone?
I was very happy with my Tijuana reunion and besides the best FKK clubs in Germany, HK is still a great experience. I can live with covered BJ and the girls not kissing, but is there anything else of the same quality other places?
I had a solid downfall in Mexico City where none of the escort girls had matching pictures and street hookers are a bigger risk and only the girls in Sulivan street will join you to your hotel. The other places the girls have their own hotels and the locals warn about the risks of using the girls' rooms.
I would like to experience more such sexy places like HK and would appreciate suggestions for my next trip. Thanks for help with my Tijuana comeback experience!Not sure what you mean by "I had to go up to $200 sometimes with no chance of negotiating the price down"? And then you went to the room with standard service and no kissing? In other words, you got fleeced. I understand that the shark infested waters are tough to navigate when you're not a regular, and maybe the money isn't much of a concern to you, but I can assure you there is better value to be had. You still need to have a little bit of game when you go there. It's actually kind of difficult to simply "buy" yourself a good experience. The best experiences often times do not correlate with the money spent.
A few pointers for good "game":
1) Be attractive to the women. Even if you aren't the best looking guy you can still dress well and stay in shape. No one want's to be with an unkempt disgusting blob.
2) Project power and confidence. This is what the girls respect. They will respect you more if you stand up for yourself like a man. If you lack confidence or are too nice the sharks will start circling.
3) Learn to negotiate. Sometimes the best negotiation is no negotiation. The more you are asking, "what is the price for this and that", the more transactional it seems, and the girls will start to worry that you can't afford it which makes you seem lower status.
4) A little Spanish doesn't hurt. Again this is tough if you're not a regular, and it's not really a prerequisite (I enjoyed this place for a long time without knowing any Spanish) it does allow the girls to get to know you a little better and feel more at ease with you.
5) Learn to avoid sharks. Again, not easy but you can learn to recognize the signs. Sometimes it's better to avoid the girls that look like "trophy chics" and go for the ones that are a little less self assured and humble. There are actually some incredible looking chics that fall into the later category. If you absolutely need a trophy to add to your shelf, so to speak, you must be resigned to the fact that you may also have to deal with the trophy chic attitude.
Take my last session, for example: This was about 4 am on Monday. I found a new girl sitting by herself at the bar seats by the main stage. I go up to her and invite her for a drink. We go upstairs to the tables that overlook the main stage. The club was relatively empty at this time, with almost no one else in the upper area. Even though the selection is less, your'e chances of getting a slam dunk session go up dramatically if you avoid the prime-time hours. This girl was pretty cute: like a girl next door type with a slender natural body. She told me she was eighteen and I had no reason to doubt her. She kept wanting to use her translator even when I assured her that I understood what she was saying and was speaking to her in Spanish–but she finally caught on. She apparently has had a bit of a hard life in Tijuana, or so she said, which put a bit of a downer on the conversation. I figured I could ease her pain by fucking her brains out. She was also a little bit standoffish as we were talking, so I was kind of on the fence as to whether to take her to the room. I decided, at one point, to just lean in and kiss her to see how she would react. Bingo. We were making out like crazy which confirmed that a room visit would be forthcoming.
The vip room discount on Monday and Tuesday as basically the only time you are not being ripped off for the room. It's actually a pretty good deal. We went to my room at Rizo. I like Rizo because I feel like I am being watched by big brother at Cascadas. Rizo, on the other hand, is more like little brother. We get to the room and we are still kissing. At one point she asks if I want to use a condom and I'm like "no". After that it was pretty much unrestricted girlfriend sex, if you know what I mean. We finished and she was like, let's cuddle on the bed for a bit. So we did just that and within about 5 minutes she was asleep. We lay there for what had to be 30-40 minutes and nobody called or came knocking, so I finally had to wake her up. I told her I had to head out because I had things to do in the afternoon. I left $160 on the table, which in my mind includes a generous tip for being a cool girl and giving me GFE. There had been no discussion of money up until this point. We leave the room and I walk her back to HK, and with a kiss on the cheek, we part ways.
This is not a one off thing either. I get these type of sessions more often than not. The key, I think, is to project yourself as someone who is actually desirable to be with, not just someone looking to trade sex for money. This won't work for everyone, of course, because some guys are simply not desirable, for whatever reason. However, you can always improve yourself to some extent. Myself, Iv'e always been pretty popular with women in latin america, who seem to view me as something of a rare commodity. This kind of "exotic factor" doesn't carry over to the US, of course, which is why I greatly prefer latin america. HK and latin america in general is like the gift that keeps on giving.
I left $160 on the table, which in my mind includes a generous tip for being a cool girl and giving me GFE. There had been no discussion of money up until this point. We leave the room and I walk her back to HK, and with a kiss on the cheek, we part ways.
This is not a one off thing either. I get these type of sessions more often than not. Well I get that type of service for $100.00 No need to advise others to pay $160 for a 30 minute sessions. Which it seems you had, with the rest time spent sleeping.
AmericanPi
11-29-24, 12:32
Which one? For how much per night?Holiday inn 1 bed suite. 210/ night. Pricey for Tijuana but nice to have a room.
Well I get that type of service for $100.00 No need to advise others to pay $160 for a 30 minute sessions. Which it seems you had, with the rest time spent sleeping.Not sure he was "advising", just letting us know of his experience. HK is what it is, I was quoted everything from $100 to $180. After years of spending well over $200 for non GFE service, the high end of $180 wasn't shocking to me. I did see the one that quoted me $180, she was IMO the by far the hottest woman in the club so I had no problem with $180. A woman like that would be starting at $700 in the US, probably more. I didn't try to negotiate and I believe it was the reason I received outstanding GFE service, along with the fact the lots of other guys probably would rather pay $100 for someone else so she's probably not as popular / busy and she only works early afternoon - 7:30 PM. After seeing her, saw 3 others, $120 and two for $140 each.
This was my first visit to HK, now that I know what's going on there I have a strategy. I'm in the club to hunt, not to hang out. I will not sit down again and have to deal with every woman jumping in my lap followed by one of the waiters (forgot what they are called) in my face for drinks. I will come in, walk around, find the one I want, not buy a drink and take her to the hotel. I figured I spent over $300 on drinks over 2 days, most of that on the first day. I got a bottle of Tequila and some beer, every woman had a few shots or a beer with me in the room.
I'm also planning on visiting Sunday-Tuesday, sure there are less woman, not sure how true it is but I heard that if they work on they weekends, they are required to work on either Monday or Tuesday. I prefer when strip clubs are not completely jam packed. I was there on a Sunday, it was fine, had serious problems deciding who I wanted so see, plus the rooms are cheaper, really cheap if you have a VIP card.
Well I get that type of service for $100.00 No need to advise others to pay $160 for a 30 minute sessions. Which it seems you had, with the rest time spent sleeping.Hi Zenduka,
To each his own, but here are my pricing guidelines. Keep in mind, these are the prices I will pay without having negotiated with the girl beforehand. I think I've mentioned before that I don't like to haggle with the girls over the prices because, for me, it kills the vibe. I may also be willing to pay a slight premium just for not having to haggle. I'm not in the position where I need to count every penny, and my objective is not necessarily to minimize the cost, but instead, to maximize the experience to cost ratio.
Unsatisfactory session: $100.
If you do the session with the girl, you really can't get away with paying less than 100. I mean you potentially can. But it's not worth the hassle. The girls expect at least 100 nowadays and to give less will make them upset and cause problems, not to mention making you look cheap. That being said, there are a few times where we've gotten to the room and I felt something wasn't right, so I've sent them away with like $20. This was before we had done anything, of course.
Standard session with no extras: $120.
If the girl at least tried and was nice but offered no extras this is what I will pay. I consider this the standard rate with no tip. Also, I typically won't repeat with these type of girls.
Session with extras: $140 and up.
If she gives you extra services, spends more time, etc. Then I like to tip. I think there is a sweet spot where you are being generous but not overly generous. Like, I wouldn't give a girl $300 under any circumstances, because it starts to look like you are compensating for something.
Of course, drinks add to the total above, as does the room price. But, all in all, we are down there banging young hot chics for what is not significantly more than the price of dinner drinks and a movie. It's a pretty good deal, any way you look at it.
Not sure he was "advising", just letting us know of his experience. HK is what it is, I was quoted everything from $100 to $180. After years of spending well over $200 for non GFE service, the high end of $180 wasn't shocking to me. I did see the one that quoted me $180, she was IMO the by far the hottest woman in the club so I had no problem with $180. A woman like that would be starting at $700 in the US, probably more. I didn't try to negotiate and I believe it was the reason I received outstanding GFE service, along with the fact the lots of other guys probably would rather pay $100 for someone else so she's probably not as popular / busy and she only works early afternoon - 7:30 PM. After seeing her, saw 3 others, $120 and two for $140 each.
This was my first visit to HK, now that I know what's going on there I have a strategy. I'm in the club to hunt, not to hang out. I will not sit down again and have to deal with every woman jumping in my lap followed by one of the waiters (forgot what they are called) in my face for drinks. I will come in, walk around, find the one I want, not buy a drink and take her to the hotel. I figured I spent over $300 on drinks over 2 days, most of that on the first day. I got a bottle of Tequila and some beer, every woman had a few shots or a beer with me in the room.
.Fine by me. Go ahead and pay them the price. I will continue playing the right game and get the best sentiments out of these girls by not appearing like a stupid, wide eyed, sex starved monger from dick prison USA.
Here is a tip for you specially. The second they sense you are not the negotiating type the girls see you as someone they can ride on and their attitude change, so will the service you may get. You will end up getting a shitty service than not.
Holiday inn 1 bed suite. 210/ night. Pricey for Tijuana but nice to have a room.I think the Cascadas 9th Floor Single Suites are much nicer with tubs and right there in the Zona if you want to get girls. Not sure what days you are staying but you get a 70% descuenta on Mondays and Tuesdays with VIP, from the regular $360 / night and 20% for the rest of the days. Friday and Saturday the prices are steeper. In any case you have your reasons, good you found one that fits your needs.
StubbornMule
11-30-24, 00:13
Went down to Tijuana on Sunday, got back yesterday. So was there for 4 nights total. I saw five girls total: Passion, Aphrodita, Summer, Sylvana, and Chanel. Aphrodita and Chanel were both absolute sweethearts. Aphrodita has perfect natural breasts which she was happy to rub in my face, while Chanel has one of the best butts I've seen on a HK girl.
Sylvana I found a bit difficult. She demanded the most money ($130), insisted that I buy lube at the Cascadas reception, insisted that I give her a beer from the minifridge, wouldn't let me do my favorite position, and covered her breasts with her hands / kept one hand on the condom. Would not repeat.
Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me - for no reason at all - and frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world bullshit.
Overall, I didn't enjoy this trip quite as much as I usually do. Prices have definitely gone up, and I felt like the overall quality of girls has slightly decreased. There are fewer young spinners. The nonstop blaring music and elbowing through the hordes of mongers gets old very quickly. I also got a sore throat on the last day which definitely put a damper on the trip.
Went down to Tijuana on Sunday, got back yesterday. So was there for 4 nights total. I saw five girls total: Passion, Aphrodita, Summer, Sylvana, and Chanel. Aphrodita and Chanel were both absolute sweethearts. Aphrodita has perfect natural breasts which she was happy to rub in my face, while Chanel has one of the best butts I've seen on a HK girl.
Sylvana I found a bit difficult. She demanded the most money ($130), insisted that I buy lube at the Cascadas reception, insisted that I give her a beer from the minifridge, wouldn't let me do my favorite position, and covered her breasts with her hands / kept one hand on the condom. Would not repeat.
Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me - for no reason at all - and frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world bullshit.
Overall, I didn't enjoy this trip quite as much as I usually do. Prices have definitely gone up, and I felt like the overall quality of girls has slightly decreased. There are fewer young spinners. The nonstop blaring music and elbowing through the hordes of mongers gets old very quickly. I also got a sore throat on the last day which definitely put a damper on the trip.Sylvana I found a bit difficult. She demanded the most money ($130), insisted that I buy lube at the Cascadas reception, insisted that I give her a beer from the minifridge, wouldn't let me do my favorite position, and covered her breasts with her hands / kept one hand on the condom. Would not repeat.
Her type is why I always make the time to vet the girls before I decide to take up. They will mess up your day those types even though you pay them more than the average. They are entitled and believe every guy that steps in that club is a sick maggot. They do. Anyway every bad session is a learning experience. Take a note of any clue she may have given you and don't glaze over them next time.
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Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me. For no reason at all. And frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world bullshit.
This never ever happened to me. Nor did I ever see it happen to anyone, let alone mongers. Was it late at night or early in the morning like between 6 and 7 AM?
Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me - for no reason at all - and frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world bullshit.As many of you know, if you go to Tijuana enough, this is inevitable. Happened to me a couple of weeks ago as well. They stop you for no reason. Ask you about drugs, etc. Look in your car and in your wallet. But the weirdest thing to me is that they actually didn't take anything or try to fuck around with you. Back in the day, you would be parted with some of your money for sure, or some bogus charge would be made against and they would threaten to take you to the station if you did not pay up. Have the cops gotten nicer, softer, less corrupt? Maybe nowadays they are actually looking for drugs and other contraband to begin the process of milking you for money. They seemed somewhat disappointed when they didn't find anything on me, and then sent me on my way! I still to this day carry almost all my cash in my shoe as a precaution.
AmericanPi
11-30-24, 04:03
As many of you know, if you go to Tijuana enough, this is inevitable. Happened to me a couple of weeks ago as well. They stop you for no reason. Ask you about drugs, etc. Look in your car and in your wallet. But the weirdest thing to me is that they actually didn't take anything or try to fuck around with you. Back in the day, you would be parted with some of your money for sure, or some bogus charge would be made against and they would threaten to take you to the station if you did not pay up. Have the cops gotten nicer, softer, less corrupt? Maybe nowadays they are actually looking for drugs and other contraband to begin the process of milking you for money. They seemed somewhat disappointed when they didn't find anything on me, and then sent me on my way! I still to this day carry almost all my cash in my shoe as a precaution.I'm sorry to hear that. But to be fair, you own some of this. You drive a car into Tijuana, probably with American plates, you know what you're going to get.
I'm not the smartest guy in the room. But in Tijuana I take Ubers everywhere. Only walk a few blocks in well traveled areas. Never put myself in a position to even interact with cops or thugs. Stay in nice hotels, eat nice restaurants, go to fine establishments like Hk. If you're in a position to be pulled over in the first place, in a place with such a history of corruption, well you can't ask a flea ridden dog to not give you fleas.
StubbornMule
11-30-24, 04:14
Sylvana I found a bit difficult. She demanded the most money ($130), insisted that I buy lube at the Cascadas reception, insisted that I give her a beer from the minifridge, wouldn't let me do my favorite position, and covered her breasts with her hands / kept one hand on the condom. Would not repeat.
Her type is why I always make the time to vet the girls before I decide to take up. They will mess up your day those types even though you pay them more than the average. They are entitled and believe every guy that steps in that club is a sick maggot. They do. Anyway every bad session is a learning experience. Take a note of any clue she may have given you and don't glaze over them next time.
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Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me. For no reason at all. And frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world bullshit.
This never ever happened to me. Nor did I ever see it happen to anyone, let alone mongers. Was it late at night or early in the morning like between 6 and 7 AM?Sylvana didn't give me any strange vibes when I "interviewed" her. We had a good rapport in the booths. She was quite good-looking, maybe the best looker of the girls I took up. I've heard that the hotter ones often act more entitled and give worse service, since they are more confident about finding other customers. It's odd though, I have had great sessions with 9's and 10's.
Regarding the cop: it was late, definitely after 10 pm. Probably happened around 11 or 11:30 pm. I was pissed and relieved that ultimately nothing came of it.
Sylvana didn't give me any strange vibes when I "interviewed" her. We had a good rapport in the booths. She was quite good-looking, maybe the best looker of the girls I took up. I've heard that the hotter ones often act more entitled and give worse service, since they are more confident about finding other customers. It's odd though, I have had great sessions with 9's and 10's.
Yes those top, cream of the cream girls are a flag. They want top dollar and the service is shitty. If I go past this initial down point ever, I make them hop through a series of tests, not only in the club but during the walk to the room, reason why I like Rizo for that, for the long walk. The slightest hint I see, I am out. Only good vibes are acceptable, no demands, no rules, not a shred of attitude. Even when I tease the crap out of them, including calling them "fea", I called one such girl "la patita fea" and showed her a pic of the ugly duck on my phone. She laughed holding her mouth. Told her she is bone skinny and that she needs to eat more Tacos. She hopped on my back and carried her to the club exit. I had one of the best sessions with her, took many photos, paid her $100+20 propina after the deed.
There are times I left these snobby types right in the middle of the road, at the door of the hotel room, in the stairs. I never get too horny, never get too needy. This way I have lowered the bad sessions to almost 0, that used to ruin my trips all the time. I learned it the hard way.
Women are emotional even the most hardened hustlers. If they are ready (they have to be ready) and you rub that soft emotional nature of theirs they will follow you to hell.
My issue now is that new mongers paying $150,160. 200 and ruining the game for everyone.
Haven't been to Tijuana in many many years would like to go down there and check it out and have some fun would like to go with somebody that's been going there a while kind of knows what's up thanks peace.I'm not seasoned but if you're up for trying out Tijuana for the first time with a partner, join me. I'm heading there Monday evening. Can meet you at HK if you want.
ABAJoeSmith123
11-30-24, 08:18
Been mongering in Tijuana since 2012. I basically know the ropes and how to stay out of trouble. However, 2 weeks ago I had my first encounter with cops. Minding my own business. Got pulled out of my uber ride by police on my way back to the border. Didn't bother the driver, but made me get out and put my hands on the wall in some alley while they frisked me. Took an unverified number of bills from my pockets. Opened my wallet but left the cards and passports there. Then let me go back into the uber.
Could've been a LOT worse but it left a very bad taste in my mouth and made me realize how easily you can get fucked over in Tijuana even if you didn't do anything wrong. What if they had taken my passport / credit cards / sentri. That wouldv'e been disastrous. Mongering is fun which is why I'm addicted to it, but this goes to remind you that Mexico Tijuana is still dangerous as fuck even for the experienced mongers.
Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me - for no reason at all - and frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world shit.I wouldn't consider "Stop and frisk" a third world thing. It was very useful and productive in NYC and for other areas with high crime rates. Yes it can be discouraging thinking that you are being targeted for not doing anything but that is kind of the point. The new mayor is trying to promote Centro more and they have had many shootings in the area so police are going to be more present and stop more individuals so they keep criminals away. If the police just stopped and searched you without taking anything you shouldn't care because they are actually doing what they are supposed to be doing. Especially given the area you were in and the time of night.
As many of you know, if you go to Tijuana enough, this is inevitable. Happened to me a couple of weeks ago as well. They stop you for no reason. Ask you about drugs, etc. Look in your car and in your wallet. But the weirdest thing to me is that they actually didn't take anything or try to fuck around with you. Back in the day, you would be parted with some of your money for sure, or some bogus charge would be made against and they would threaten to take you to the station if you did not pay up. Have the cops gotten nicer, softer, less corrupt? Maybe nowadays they are actually looking for drugs and other contraband to begin the process of milking you for money. They seemed somewhat disappointed when they didn't find anything on me, and then sent me on my way! I still to this day carry almost all my cash in my shoe as a precaution.This happened to me in 1984 so, yes, been happening for ages.
I wouldn't consider "Stop and frisk" a third world thing. It was very useful and productive in NYC and for other areas with high crime rates. Yes it can be discouraging thinking that you are being targeted for not doing anything but that is kind of the point. The new mayor is trying to promote Centro more and they have had many shootings in the area so police are going to be more present and stop more individuals so they keep criminals away. If the police just stopped and searched you without taking anything you shouldn't care because they are actually doing what they are supposed to be doing. Especially given the area you were in and the time of night.Taken out of uber and frisked is something I would never accept. The Policia, if they get you in some obscure area they will rob you. This is how the story goes. If the mayor wants to clean the place up the first thing she should do is encourage tourists by assuring their safety. Getting passengers out of uber while leaving the driver is not one of those actions.
Stop and search or Terry-stop without a probable suspicion is anti-constitutional in the USA. A mayor has to provide a specific and objective reason for it in court or the city could go bankrupt in a flash. This activity was extremely controversial in New York as I remember. Zealous cops were abusing citizens who were victims of the violence themselves.
Reminds me of some African country led by a military junta that required citizens to hold a pass permit to move around in their city. This is what is happening in Ukraine cities now, by the way. If you are combat age person (18 to 60 now I believe) and you have no pass permit and caught in the city you will be grabbed and sent to camp.
In any case what we can do is talk about it in forums like this and spread the story, maybe the mayor gets the message and change course.
Been mongering in Tijuana since 2012. I basically know the ropes and how to stay out of trouble. However, 2 weeks ago I had my first encounter with cops. Minding my own business. Got pulled out of my uber ride by police on my way back to the border. Didn't bother the driver, but made me get out and put my hands on the wall in some alley while they frisked me. Took an unverified number of bills from my pockets. Opened my wallet but left the cards and passports there. Then let me go back into the uber.
Could've been a LOT worse but it left a very bad taste in my mouth and made me realize how easily you can get fucked over in Tijuana even if you didn't do anything wrong. What if they had taken my passport / credit cards / sentri. That wouldv'e been disastrous. Mongering is fun which is why I'm addicted to it, but this goes to remind you that Mexico Tijuana is still dangerous as fuck even for the experienced mongers.It has been posted many times, on this board and others, that before you are searched you put your money into your HAND. The cops have no right to touch your money.
I have heard no credible reports of cops stealing SENTRI cards or passports. They are of little use to them. That should be the least of your worries.
The thing that concerns me the most is them stopping an Uber. That is very rare, and very odd.
The object lesson that everyone can take from this is that Tijuana is NOT Disneyland for adults. The Zona Norte is a fetid cesspool of thieves, liars, addicts, drugs, and seriously bent cops. One goes there at one's own risk, and one needs to plan, in advance, for the potential consequences.
Thanks for the good feedback.
Would it be an advantage not to discuss the price with the girls before she asks for the money in the room? I only go for very hot ladies and am prepared for both more expensive and less willing girls, but I am working on the matter and am happy for your good advice.
Fine by me. Go ahead and pay them the price. I will continue playing the right game and get the best sentiments out of these girls by not appearing like a stupid, wide eyed, sex starved monger from dick prison USA.
Here is a tip for you specially. The second they sense you are not the negotiating type the girls see you as someone they can ride on and their attitude change, so will the service you may get. You will end up getting a shitty service than not.Not sure I'm "playing the game wrong" as you suggest. On the other side of the coin, maybe girls will see a guy who isn't negotiating as someone not trying to low ball them, appreciate that and will give better service. I also think not being an asshole or extremely dominant works in my favor. The one I paid the most for definitely gave me the best service, not even close. Not sure why you expect every woman to be the same price, that's like going to a car dealership and being insulted when a Mercedes costs more than a Nissan. Like I said, she was far and away the hottest in the club on that day IMO and from the reactions I got, others felt the same way. When I walked out with her every guy was looking at me giving me that "hell yeah" nod. The guys working at the hotel reacted the same way, they did not with the others I took to my room. My favorite reaction was from a couple of guys sitting at the lobby bar at Rizo De Oro, one said "holy shit, she's hot", the other just couldn't stop staring, smiling and said "you the fucking man dude". And this was with her wearing the robe so you couldn't even see how hot her body was.
I'm not stupid and understand the game, like I said earlier, she was the hottest one in the club so she can set her rates higher, there was not one other woman I saw in my two days there that I would spend that much on. When I returned to HK, she was about to go home, we chatted for a bit, threw some bucks when she danced and so did everybody else. At least 5 guys came to me asking about her and every single one said the same thing. I wanted t see her, she's the hottest one in here but I'm trying to see 3-4 per day and her price was too high, I can see two for that. Me, on the other hand, look for quality over quantity so I'm very selective. Some guys don't give a damn about what her face looks like, as long as she's got nice tits and ass, that's not me. It took me 2 minutes of chatting with her to decide I had to see her. Aside from her, there were only one or two that got me really excited and none the way she did. Every other one I saw was after walking through the club for an hour or so trying to decide who I wanted to see, this is when price became a factor, most of them were pretty much the same on my scale so it was about height, hair color who had the best / freakiest attitude and ultimately, price. BTW, I negotiated with none of the 4 women I saw, 1 provided great service, 3 provided incredible service.
It has been posted many times, on this board and others, that before you are searched you put your money into your HAND. The cops have no right to touch your money.
I have heard no credible reports of cops stealing SENTRI cards or passports. They are of little use to them. That should be the least of your worries.
The thing that concerns me the most is them stopping an Uber. That is very rare, and very odd.
The object lesson that everyone can take from this is that Tijuana is NOT Disneyland for adults. The Zona Norte is a fetid cesspool of thieves, liars, addicts, drugs, and seriously bent cops. One goes there at one's own risk, and one needs to plan, in advance, for the potential consequences.My buddy got a guy that works for one of the hotels come pick us up in San Ysidro. $50 but worth not having to hassle with the taxi's. He gave us all the tips before we headed across the border. Told ups to remove any small personal belongings from our luggage. Phones, cash, jewelry, etc. Anything that could be taken and put in a pocket without us noticing. And gave us one of those Coke cans that has a secret compartment to hide our cash. He didn't anticipate an issues but wanted us to be prepared. Before we crossed, he got out and put his HK / Cascadas / Rizo sign on his Yukon, told us they rarely stop him with that. Well worth the money. He won't take you across the border back into the US however.
One thing he told us about the police is that things are changing and the younger officers are far less likely to harass you but the old school ones who have been doing that for years can be a problem. At breakfast one morning we saw the hottest officer I've ever seen in my life. She was about 5'11", beautiful with an incredible body that you could see through her uniform. She reminded me of those role play porn movies where the actress is a cop! I wanted to sneak a pic but there was no way I was going to do that. Started to ask her but decided not to.
Litmus Smut
12-02-24, 00:15
Has it happened to anyone where the sex was too long and too vigouros that the girl said she was starting to hurt? Nothing a long the lines of rough sex, but it just took you a while to cum and perhaps you were a little larger than what she could handle for a longer duration?
If so, is there a pro-rated dollar amount to get back if you didn't cum? Or anyone finish via other means like a handjob or BJ? Or a dance on the floor or something?
Not sure why you expect every woman to be the same price, that's like going to a car dealership and being insulted when a Mercedes costs more than a Nissan.
This is where you and I fundamentally differ. As a principle all women I select are the same in that I pay them the same amount of money. Anyone I select and willing to go for the reasonable price I want to pay will be selected, when I am ready. I never pay based on looks, at all. The second I reason to pay her more based on her hotness is when I lose in more way than one.
Basically this is what I do, I go to the club, I approach the ladies I like based on looks and body language, I evaluate the attitude through playful banter and then I offer my price. Most times I get them agree on a price, to meet later in the day and exchange numbers. I get so many hot women as such, sometimes I don't even know what to do with the phone numbers. Usually what is agreed that day would not work if a day passes, you got to work on it again.
Mind you I can pay the prices you pay, my issue is paying that much will change the women's attitude about me. Treat them average, they will give you excellent service.
I'm sorry to hear that. But to be fair, you own some of this. You drive a car into Tijuana, probably with American plates, you know what you're going to get.
I'm not the smartest guy in the room. But in Tijuana I take Ubers everywhere. Only walk a few blocks in well traveled areas. Never put myself in a position to even interact with cops or thugs. Stay in nice hotels, eat nice restaurants, go to fine establishments like Hk. If you're in a position to be pulled over in the first place, in a place with such a history of corruption, well you can't ask a flea ridden dog to not give you fleas.You're right. You do make yourself more of a target driving a car. I'm just used to it.
That being said, I've been stopped by the cops driving. I've been stopped by the cops walking. Iv'e even been stopped by the cops taking a cab ride, believe it or not. There really is no safe zone, as far as I know. Sure, if you're at the Plaza Rio they're not going to bother you, but if you go in the zone norte, there is always some risk. Also, I'm kind of easy for them to profile because it's obvious I'm a gringo. It's more of a hassle than anything. I haven't had any money stolen from me in years. Back in the day, it was a different story.
Has it happened to anyone where the sex was too long and too vigorous that the girl said she was starting to hurt? Nothing a long the lines of rough sex, but it just took you a while to cum and perhaps you were a little larger than what she could handle for a longer duration?
If so, is there a pro-rated dollar amount to get back if you didn't cum? Or anyone finish via other means like a hand job or BJ? Or a dance on the floor or something?I remember I fucked one of my ATFs that worked at Adelitas at that time. She stayed the whole night with me in Hotel Coahuila and I fucked her brains out 4 times through out the night. I was kind of high on Marijuana at the time and had a raging hard on for her. She is a tiny and short spinner, but she can take a good pounding in multiple positions, the problem is that after the fourth time she had to call it quits. I rubbed her pussy raw on the inside. On the fourth fuck she was squealing and crying like a stuck pig, but I came hard inside her after a few minutes. I am a gentleman and didn't want to hurt her, but she had to take a day off from work after that.
Driving in Tijuana is just not worth the hassle and is cheaper to walk or Uber. When I visit Tijuana I usually take nyaxi vans. Or take Uber if it is catch the taxi van. The taxi vans only cost 20 pesos. You can catch white. & purpel stripe. Or white & blue stripe. The taxi vans run until. 10 pm. The only downside is that they are crowded sometimes. Most of the time it is faster to walk. Back across the border.
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You're right. You do make yourself more of a target driving a car. I'm just used to it.
That being said, I've been stopped by the cops driving. I've been stopped by the cops walking. Iv'e even been stopped by the cops taking a cab ride, believe it or not. There really is no safe zone, as far as I know. Sure, if you're at the Plaza Rio they're not going to bother you, but if you go in the zone norte, there is always some risk. Also, I'm kind of easy for them to profile because it's obvious I'm a gringo. It's more of a hassle than anything. I haven't had any money stolen from me in years. Back in the day, it was a different story.
Has it happened to anyone where the sex was too long and too vigouros that the girl said she was starting to hurt? Nothing a long the lines of rough sex, but it just took you a while to cum and perhaps you were a little larger than what she could handle for a longer duration?
If so, is there a pro-rated dollar amount to get back if you didn't cum? Or anyone finish via other means like a handjob or BJ? Or a dance on the floor or something?She is on the clock but doesn't mean you will ravage her until time's up specially when she is not enjoying it. Be reasonable about it and if you can't cum with some effort and she is not up to it, stop and let her go.
Besides, cumming is not the point, at least for me unless it is the first or last girl of the trip. If you are past 40, basically cumming will kill your mood after the ecstasy is over. Focus on the love making with a person that attracts you, not on ejaculating. You can ejaculate watching porn after she leaves, if that is so important. Look at her, touch her, adore her feminine scent , kiss her body, talk to her, smile at her, feel her, connect with her, dance with her, at least some of the above. If you have selected the right girl you can have a good experience. If you are with a street girl you can forget all about that.
In any case you can make her stay more with additional money usually that can only be based on how much more you want her to stay. The girls would want double pay for double time, specially street girls. SG's can be with you for hours if you continue extending that way. If she is a Bar girl in the zona, she can't be there more than an hour. You will also be required to pay additional for the room if you are in it for short time.
Flawless Zeal
12-02-24, 17:26
Most times I get them agree on a price, to meet later in the day and exchange numbers.Are you saying that at the club you arrange to meet them after work hours, at another hotel, cutting out HK? If so, does HK not get pissed off? Or is it easy to do without them knowing?
On the fourth fuck she was squealing and crying like a stuck pig, but I came hard inside her after a few minutes. I am a gentleman and didn't want to hurt her.And they say chivalry is dead. I guess we have different definitions of what a gentleman is.
Has it happened to anyone where the sex was too long and too vigouros that the girl said she was starting to hurt? Nothing a long the lines of rough sex, but it just took you a while to cum and perhaps you were a little larger than what she could handle for a longer duration?
If so, is there a pro-rated dollar amount to get back if you didn't cum? Or anyone finish via other means like a handjob or BJ? Or a dance on the floor or something?There is now rule book on what to do in those situations. You basically pay for her service for up to 30 minutes some guys finish quick and the girl bails some might stay and hang out the full time. If you don't finish in the 30 minutes that's your problem and you are still required to pay the full amount. This is why some girls want the money upfront because guys that don't finish think they don't have to pay.
I often drink way to much so find it difficult to finish so many times I will finish manually and they might try helping me by blowing me or fingering their pussy it really depends what I ask them to do. I always pay what I feel is fare at least $100 no matter if I finish inside of them or manually.
In the case of the girl tapping out because of a guys size the two of you have to come to an agreed amount price and if neither of you can agree you might call a manager to be the mediator. In general if you are a guy that is larger than most and you've had this issue I would bring it up down in the club and let the girl decide if she can handle it. Had a buddy that was very large and would always let the girl know ahead of time. This hurt the number of girls he could go with but he didn't want the girl running out of the room when she saw what was coming.
I'm sorry to hear that. But to be fair, you own some of this. You drive a car into Tijuana, probably with American plates, you know what you're going to get.
I'm not the smartest guy in the room. But in Tijuana I take Ubers everywhere. Only walk a few blocks in well traveled areas. Never put myself in a position to even interact with cops or thugs. Stay in nice hotels, eat nice restaurants, go to fine establishments like Hk. If you're in a position to be pulled over in the first place, in a place with such a history of corruption, well you can't ask a flea ridden dog to not give you fleas.Hogwash. He owns none of that, unless he was driving through the ZN, half-drunk, at 3 am.
If you drive around a bit you'll see loads of cars with CA plates. The cops can't stop all of them, and they don't try.
I only drive in Tijuana. I just have a couple of rules. I will not drive through the ZN at night. Too many drunk gringos come out of bars and hop into their cars. It's a target-rich environment, as they say. When the clubbing starts, the car gets parked and I take Uber everywhere, I don't need any DUI hassle. And, I try to limit my driving at night. Partially because it limits exposure to bored cops, but mostly because the streets are so shitty and it's hard for me to see all the giant potholes at night. I've already had to repair one bent wheel, I don't want more.
OTOH, driving is akin to Death Race 2000. So, if you're not comfortable driving in "controlled chaos" then it's best to stick to Uber.
Are you saying that at the club you arrange to meet them after work hours, at another hotel, cutting out HK? If so, does HK not get pissed off? Or is it easy to do without them knowing?That's the way the locals do it. When in Rome.
Are you saying that at the club you arrange to meet them after work hours, at another hotel, cutting out HK? If so, does HK not get pissed off? Or is it easy to do without them knowing?Had girls after their shift is over or before their shift begun. If you are in a hotel close by her apartment or hotel, it is even better. For that to happen though you got to have a solid rapport with the girl. I had SG's and BG's come to my hotel rooms outside of the zona, also.
The clubs don't like it and try to do their best to discourage it. E. g, few years ago they started forcing you buy bucket of ficha if the girl comes to your room which is attached to a club she works, even if she is off shift. Now they are even checking girls who stay in the same hotel as you and just walk to your room. If they see them, they will stop and ask and then ask for the dude to buy a ficha to see the girl. If the hotel is not attached to the club she works in, and she is off shift then there is nothing they can do.
Generally though, when I wrote "later", I meant later that day while she is on her shift. Usually when I am searching for the right woman, I am not even ready to have sex. So I collect numbers and arrange for time, like in 1 or 2 hours, etc. Very possible outside of peak days and hours. I use it to extend the rapport using the text interaction. The other way to create a good rapport is sitting and buying fichas, which is something I hate doing.
MikeyVee123
12-02-24, 19:52
Had girls after their shift is over or before their shift begun. If you are in a hotel close by her apartment or hotel, it is even better. For that to happen though you got to have a solid rapport with the girl. I had SG's and BG's come to my hotel rooms outside of the zona, also.
The clubs don't like it and try to do their best to discourage it. E. g, few years ago they started forcing you buy bucket of ficha if the girl comes to your room which is attached to a club she works, even if she is off shift. Now they are even checking girls who stay in the same hotel as you and just walk to your room. If they see them, they will stop and ask and then ask for the dude to buy a ficha to see the girl. If the hotel is not attached to the club she works in, and she is off shift then there is nothing they can do.
Generally though, when I wrote "later", I meant later that day while she is on her shift. Usually when I am searching for the right woman, I am not even ready to have sex. So I collect numbers and arrange for time, like in 1 or 2 hours, etc. Very possible outside of peak days and hours. I use it to extend the rapport using the text interaction. The other way to create a good rapport is sitting and buying fichas, which is something I hate doing.Damn I miss the days like 15 years ago when the 5th floor of cascadas was the chicas' floor. You could just roam the halls and poke your head into their rooms when they were chilling on their bed eating cheetos in their pj's.
Besides, cumming is not the point, ... . You can ejaculate watching porn after she leaves, if that is so important.
Look at her, touch her, adore her feminine scent , kiss her body, talk to her, smile at her, feel her, connect with her, dance with her, at least some of the above. If you have selected the right girl you can have a good experience.
If you are with a street girl you can forget all about that.I agree 100% that ejaculation is not the goal and all the other fun stuff you wrote about to enjoy the gals.
If you get a street girl for an hour you can enjoy all of that too. And I do. I. E, with my street girl I always start with dancing & often sex does not start till after about 30 minutes.
Damn I miss the days like 15 years ago when the 5th floor of cascadas was the chicas' floor. You could just roam the halls and poke your head into their rooms when they were chilling on their bed eating cheetos in their pj's.I as well as a buddy of mine used to take girls in their PJ's we meet in the hallways of Rizo to our rooms before the pandemic. Now it is not possible unless you buy a ficha. The girls are very timid about it also. I think they tell them not to go to dude's habitaciones without informing the lobby.
StubbornMule
12-03-24, 04:06
A few pointers for good "game":
1) Be attractive to the women. Even if you aren't the best looking guy you can still dress well and stay in shape. No one want's to be with an unkempt disgusting blob.
2) Project power and confidence. This is what the girls respect. They will respect you more if you stand up for yourself like a man. If you lack confidence or are too nice the sharks will start circling.
3) Learn to negotiate. Sometimes the best negotiation is no negotiation. The more you are asking, "what is the price for this and that", the more transactional it seems, and the girls will start to worry that you can't afford it which makes you seem lower status.
4) A little Spanish doesn't hurt. Again this is tough if you're not a regular, and it's not really a prerequisite (I enjoyed this place for a long time without knowing any Spanish) it does allow the girls to get to know you a little better and feel more at ease with you.
5) Learn to avoid sharks. Again, not easy but you can learn to recognize the signs. Sometimes it's better to avoid the girls that look like "trophy chics" and go for the ones that are a little less self assured and humble. There are actually some incredible looking chics that fall into the later category. If you absolutely need a trophy to add to your shelf, so to speak, you must be resigned to the fact that you may also have to deal with the trophy chic attitude.
The key, I think, is to project yourself as someone who is actually desirable to be with, not just someone looking to trade sex for money. This won't work for everyone, of course, because some guys are simply not desirable, for whatever reason. However, you can always improve yourself to some extent. Myself, Iv'e always been pretty popular with women in latin america, who seem to view me as something of a rare commodity. This kind of "exotic factor" doesn't carry over to the US, of course, which is why I greatly prefer latin america. HK and latin america in general is like the gift that keeps on giving.This is good advice.
Hi all,
Visiting my folks so will be in socal around December 19-28th. How is the scene around this time? I figure many of the girls go home, but I figured I'd ask since I'm rarely back home anymore. Wondering if it's worth heading down there for a couple days or if it's going to empty. Appreciate you guys!
Headed down Sunday night around 10 pm until around 1 am or so. I almost didn't go because it got too late for me but went anyways since I was visiting a friend who only lives 10 minutes away from the border. Ran into one of my regulars so we enjoyed a few drinks for a while. She was on the last hour of her shift and was moreso wanting to run out the clock which was fine with me because I was saving my pop for another one or my chicas at Chicago. After we parted ways I ran into another one or my favorite girls who hadn't been around in a while. She only came back for some extra holiday money and is leaving the week before Christmas. I'll be sure to get a session in with her before she leaves.
A few girls approached me, all quoting within the 100-120 range. Noticed a drop dead beautiful girl dancing on the bar. She had an amazing body too, although she had an obvious boob job, they looked pretty good on her. I figured a girl like her would quote me something astronomical. Curiosity got the best of me and I motioned for her to crouch down so I could talk to her. I asked point blank how much to go arriba. To my surprise she said 130. I suppose I could have gotten her down to 120 or maybe tell her 120 and a $10 tip if the session was to my satisfaction. I asked if she was into girls to perhaps get her in a threesome with another one of my sexually charged up chicas who could loosen her up for me in case she was somewhat uptight in bed. She said yes and that she wasn't opposed to working with other girls. I was hoping for more of an upbeat answer, the kind you get from bisexual girls. Seems like she does it more for work reasons than for personal pleasure unlike some other girls I know who are also into it for their own enjoyment. I would probably still do it regardless just because of how hot she was. I told her I would catch up with her some other time. I believe she said her name was Claudia or something similar with a C.
A little bit later on I took notice of another pretty girl, but she was super skinny, almost model like. Not much in terms of having tits or ass but she makes her body work for her and carries it well. She eventually got up to dance and I gave her a tip to feel her up. To her credit she didn't back away and gave me a nice smile but when I asked how much to go arriba just to see what she would say she quoted me $180. This is the highest I have ever been quoted in the zona. She must have read the look on my face when she said it and quickly counter offered herself with $160 somehow thinking I would take her up on it. I told her I was going to do a few more laps and maybe I would talk to her later. She must have a bad case of GPS. She told me she goes by Blair, so if any of you guys see her watch out for the hefty tax LOL. After that I finally headed to Chicago and saw my chica over there.
I had driven over so on my way to the border I spotted cop cars a few blocks away pulling every car over for searches and questioning. Those bastards got me one time this way and accused me of drunk driving. Had to give them a few bucks to let me go. This time I was able to hook a right a couple blocks before I got to them down a quiet street and entered an alternative route to Plaza Rio on google maps to escape their little entrapment. Once I was in the Plaza Rio area I knew how to make it safely straight to the border.
This is where you and I fundamentally differ. As a principle all women I select are the same in that I pay them the same amount of money. Anyone I select and willing to go for the reasonable price I want to pay will be selected, when I am ready. I never pay based on looks, at all. The second I reason to pay her more based on her hotness is when I lose in more way than one.
Basically this is what I do, I go to the club, I approach the ladies I like based on looks and body language, I evaluate the attitude through playful banter and then I offer my price. Most times I get them agree on a price, to meet later in the day and exchange numbers. I get so many hot women as such, sometimes I don't even know what to do with the phone numbers. Usually what is agreed that day would not work if a day passes, you got to work on it again.
Mind you I can pay the prices you pay, my issue is paying that much will change the women's attitude about me. Treat them average, they will give you excellent service.Well, there's more than one way to skin a cat. My approach works for me, it always has. Sure, what you say may happen if you pay them more but in my experience it's been the opposite. To each his own I guess.
Hi all,
Visiting my folks so will be in socal around December 19-28th. How is the scene around this time? I figure many of the girls go home, but I figured I'd ask since I'm rarely back home anymore. Wondering if it's worth heading down there for a couple days or if it's going to empty. Appreciate you guys!You are right, most of the usual suspects leave. However you may see fresh ones in limited numbers looking for holiday money. Generally, it is better than January but December is slow and cold. There is fun to be had though, much of it. Do not despair due to the comments, just go. I would avoid Christmas day and New years eve and day.
Note:- Muggings against locals increase this month. Not much against tourists though, yet it is worth to be extra careful.
Well, there's more than one way to skin a cat. My approach works for me, it always has. Sure, what you say may happen if you pay them more but in my experience it's been the opposite. To each his own I guess.Corret, each to his own. The only cause you should consider is the women expect everyone to pay them what you pay. Prices above $100 were unheard of in 2019. Now we are hearing $150, $160, $180, $200/30 minutes like it is nothing.
Took 5 years to go from $60 to $100. Now from 2019 to 2022 it went from $100 to close to $200. Part of it is the decline and death of Adelitas.
I leave this to other readers. The price is $100+$20 propina. Don't pay anymore than that for a 30 min session.
Baxter Slade
12-05-24, 04:16
Note:- Muggings against locals increase this month. Not much against tourists though, yet it is worth to be extra careful.I might add. You may not want to call them muggings. But robberies.
Of tourists increase quite a bit this time of year and the robbers are the Tijuana Municipal Police.
Corret, each to his own. The only cause you should consider is the women expect everyone to pay them what you pay. Prices above $100 were unheard of in 2019. Now we are hearing $150, $160, $180, $200/30 minutes like it is nothing.
Took 5 years to go from $60 to $100. Now from 2019 to 2022 it went from $100 to close to $200. Part of it is the decline and death of Adelitas.
I leave this to other readers. The price is $100+$20 propina. Don't pay anymore than that for a 30 min session.I've been hearing that for 20 years here in the states when less than $100 was common. One thing is true. Prices go up, they almost never go down, not sure why people complain, can you name one thing that costs less now than it did 5 years ago or that hasn't significantly increased at a higher rate than the previous 5 years? Look at the prices of homes in the US from today compared to 5 years ago, then compare that to the 5 years previous.
You have to understand that there are guys like me that have been priced out of most of the women in the states that are as hot as the ladies in Tijuana because they are now charging at least 500 for thirty minutes. SW's here are commonly asking for 200, so when I see a dime that looks better than the ones I've seen in the states that I paid at least 350 for, I'm not really thinking how what I pay her is going to affect prices for other dudes. Like I said, she was rare, checked every box I'm looking for twice. It's a sliding scale for me, if a woman only checks 3 out of 6 boxes for me, well the price I will pay drops significantly.
MikeyVee123
12-06-24, 19:06
I've been hearing that for 20 years here in the states when less than $100 was common. One thing is true. Prices go up, they almost never go down, not sure why people complain, can you name one thing that costs less now than it did 5 years ago or that hasn't significantly increased at a higher rate than the previous 5 years? Look at the prices of homes in the US from today compared to 5 years ago, then compare that to the 5 years previous.
You have to understand that there are guys like me that have been priced out of most of the women in the states that are as hot as the ladies in Tijuana because they are now charging at least 500 for thirty minutes. SW's here are commonly asking for 200, so when I see a dime that looks better than the ones I've seen in the states that I paid at least 350 for, I'm not really thinking how what I pay her is going to affect prices for other dudes. Like I said, she was rare, checked every box I'm looking for twice. It's a sliding scale for me, if a woman only checks 3 out of 6 boxes for me, well the price I will pay drops significantly.Generally I agree but some things do get cheaper when production scales up and the technology gets cheaper. I never thought in the mid 90's when a laptop was $2000+ that you could get one 30 years later for 10% of that. My first flat screen TV was a 40" plasma in like 2000 that cost like $5000, now you can get a 50" at walmart for $300. We just need production of tapatias, chilangas and regias to scale up, open up another 3 or 4 HKTJ and we should be good to go.
Generally I agree but some things do get cheaper when production scales up and the technology gets cheaper. I never thought in the mid 90's when a laptop was $2000+ that you could get one 30 years later for 10% of that. My first flat screen TV was a 40" plasma in like 2000 that cost like $5000, now you can get a 50" at walmart for $300. We just need production of tapatias, chilangas and regias to scale up, open up another 3 or 4 HKTJ and we should be good to go.Tech products go down except smart phones, thanks to useless Apple. Generally, in our hobby, female services go up. I do consider that. What I am negating is the outrageous speed at which prices are deliberately being pushed up. It is not natural, not in par with inflation either.
Some dudes pay it and say my action wouldn't affect others. They should know there are a bunch of an aware others who do the same, effectively ingraining these ridiculous price hikes. As I wrote took 5 years to rise by $40. Now in 3 years it rose by $100.
LuvMexicanas
12-06-24, 21:03
Tech products go down except smart phones, thanks to useless Apple. Generally, in our hobby, female services go up. I do consider that. What I am negating is the outrageous speed at which prices are deliberately being pushed up. It is not natural, not in par with inflation either.
Some dudes pay it and say my action wouldn't affect others. They should know there are a bunch of an aware others who do the same, effectively ingraining these ridiculous price hikes. As I wrote took 5 years to rise by $40. Now in 3 years it rose by $100.Supply and demand in other words the market sets the price. There's more horny dudes willing to pay higher amounts so quit complaining.
I'm not really thinking how what I pay her is going to affect prices for other dudes. It does affect others. Know that.
It does affect others. Know that.I was there Thursday evening. So many girls with so few customers. A girl I've know for a while was complaining that men are not taking the girls upstairs and asked what was going on in the US. She thought it was all related to black Friday sales and the holidays. That's a possibility but I think it part of an overall inflationary trend. I was around during the great recession, those prices for the girls were economic and supply and demand related. If US consumers are tapped out prices will fall. The oldest profession will continue that for sure but at lower rates. That's a certainty.
It does affect others. Know that.Guys have been over paying for years in Tijuana.
Just look at the proof, the guy you're complaining about paid only one girl $160. Trust me $160 is not over paying and not something you should be crying about. You have no idea if that's what she always charges and if she does good for her. It's her body that she is selling and she decides what price she is willing to sell it for.
You pay girls $120, so how did $160 affect you? Trust me the hot girls are coming to Tijuana in hopes of getting the $160 guy but usually get stuck with the $120 guy. So they either stay or leave. We all should be happy this guy paid $160 because the hot girls wouldn't show up if he didn't.
I was there Thursday evening. So many girls with so few customers. A girl I've know for a while was complaining that men are not taking the girls upstairs and asked what was going on in the US. She thought it was all related to black Friday sales and the holidays. That's a possibility but I think it part of an overall inflationary trend. I was around during the great recession, those prices for the girls were economic and supply and demand related. If US consumers are tapped out prices will fall. The oldest profession will continue that for sure but at lower rates. That's a certainty.I just watched a video of a girl being interviewed about her work in HK. She said, if she makes $700/ week is good for her and if she can go up to $1500/ week its great. I was thinking if she took 2 guys up per shift which is $200 for 1 hour work total, she can reach her great points, instead of collecting dust standing by a corner quoting everyone $150, until she gets that weekend fool that comes up willing to pay that price. I have talked countless wall flowers standing there asking $130, while the smart ones agree for $100 and make it look like it is a price only for you, the special one.
She also said, her last arrival at HK for work, the first week she only managed to get $80.2nd week she reached $1000,3rd week she made $800.
By the way, I also encountered a girl as she came down the stairs from their change room to start her shift, I was leaning by the rails upstairs, she turned and looked down the floor and made this iffy face. I asked her what was wrong, she said, chingo de chicas, no hombres. I told her the club has priced out so many men telling girls they can charge crazy prices. She told me she doesn't ask for much only $130/30. I laughed at her and went down.
It kind of made sense for girls to quote $120 when the dollar was at around 15,16 pesos. Now since it's pretty much at 20, $100 should be a little more acceptable for them. Problem is they have been used to quoting 120 for so long, a lot of them are not going to want to drop down to 100 again. Especially with so many suckers willing to pay upwards of $150.
One of my regulars called me earlier today b*tching about barely making any money yesterday. Said mongers were more interested in partying and drinking instead of taking girls arriba. I just let her vent out her frustrations while I did some work around the house. I told her since today was Saturday, surely she would accumulate more arribas. She sent me a video a couple hours ago of her hanging out with a couple in their room, so I know she already has one knocked down at least LOL.
It kind of made sense for girls to quote $120 when the dollar was at around 15,16 pesos. Now since it's pretty much at 20, $100 should be a little more acceptable for them. Problem is they have been used to quoting 120 for so long, a lot of them are not going to want to drop down to 100 again. Especially with so many suckers willing to pay upwards of $150.
One of my regulars called me earlier today b*tching about barely making any money yesterday. Said mongers were more interested in partying and drinking instead of taking girls arriba. I just let her vent out her frustrations while I did some work around the house. I told her since today was Saturday, surely she would accumulate more arribas. She sent me a video a couple hours ago of her hanging out with a couple in their room, so I know she already has one knocked down at least LOL.Yup, that's what my friend complained to me about as well. I've also been having women contact me to come to visit them who haven't messaged me in months or ever really.
Maybe its just a short trend but there were so many girls at the club this week and the vibe and energy was a bit down.
It kind of made sense for girls to quote $120 when the dollar was at around 15,16 pesos. Now since it's pretty much at 20, $100 should be a little more acceptable for them. Problem is they have been used to quoting 120 for so long, a lot of them are not going to want to drop down to 100 again. Especially with so many suckers willing to pay upwards of $150.Well I think that's one point that I didn't bring up to those complaining about prices. If guys consistently paid in pesos prices would be more stable. If girls got 2000 pesos for 100 but only 1600 for that 100 they will demand more dollars. The problem is that since most guys don't pay in pesos now that it's back to 20 the girls aren't suddenly going to say ok I'll now take $100 again.
So those of you trying to tell guys what they should pay you'd be better off paying in pesos and trying to convince others to do the same. You will still be wasting your time but at least it's a more logical complaint.
It does affect others. Know that.Sorry, not my problem.
It kind of made sense for girls to quote $120 when the dollar was at around 15,16 pesos. Now since it's pretty much at 20, $100 should be a little more acceptable for them. Problem is they have been used to quoting 120 for so long, a lot of them are not going to want to drop down to 100 again. Especially with so many suckers willing to pay upwards of $150.
.LOL, exactly. They were actually telling me the exchange rate was bad hence their quote of $150, now if you ask them why, they just shrug their shoulders. Point is they know dumb ass mongers that show up once in a blue moon will paying it.
I saw one girl once, told her $100 + propina depending on her service. She said, either buy her fichas or $150/30. I walked away. The entire 2 hours I was there with a buddy of mine, she stood by a corner playing with her phone. Later I took a knockout 19 year old, one of the top girls, for the same price I offered that other girl. We took a lot of pics she hanging all over me, would have posted some pics to show what she looks like but this is a public forum, I respect her privacy.
LOL, exactly. They were actually telling me the exchange rate was bad hence their quote of $150, now if you ask them why, they just shrug their shoulders. Point is they know dumb ass mongers that show up once in a blue moon will paying it.
I saw one girl once, told her $100 + propina depending on her service. She said, either buy her fichas or $150/30. I walked away. The entire 2 hours I was there with a buddy of mine, she stood by a corner playing with her phone. Later I took a knockout 19 year old, one of the top girls, for the same price I offered that other girl. We took a lot of pics she hanging all over me, would have posted some pics to show what she looks like but this is a public forum, I respect her privacy.I see a lot of messages complaining about the prices, I've also looked at prices in Colombia, Thailand and the Philipines, out of all the destinations Tijuana Mexico is still the cheapest.
Prices went up all over the world after the shutdown, inflation hit everyone and everything.
I think you guys should count your blessings for having the lowest prices, nearest location and descent quality at your fingertips, either that or start booking trips somewere else and see how that goes.
Generally I agree but some things do get cheaper when production scales up and the technology gets cheaper. I never thought in the mid 90's when a laptop was $2000+ that you could get one 30 years later for 10% of that. My first flat screen TV was a 40" plasma in like 2000 that cost like $5000, now you can get a 50" at walmart for $300. We just need production of tapatias, chilangas and regias to scale up, open up another 3 or 4 HKTJ and we should be good to go.The other thing that people in this group are not considering is that the "production" as you say of new talent is way down, the main reason is Only Fans, all the girls who want to do this type of work are doing Only Fans first and see if they can make it, that diminishes the amount of available working girls, that's a world wide phenomenon.
When it comes to Mexico, the country's quality of life is getting better and better, for the past six years the minimum wage has been increased by 20% yearly, it will go up again by another 15% this coming January, this means that a lot of girls may decide to get another type of job now that they pay more.
Remember, sex work is the last type of work the girls wish to do, they do it just because the amount of money they can make, if something else comes a little bit closer they will do something else.
Remember, sex work is the last type of work the girls wish to do, they do it just because the amount of money they can make, if something else comes a little bit closer they will do something else.This is true at the beginning. Once they get used to the easy money, specially in places like the zona clubs where they can choose whom to go with and security is relatively good, they will never leave elsewhere unless it becomes difficult for them continue for one reason or another.
As I mention in previous posts the girls are expecting $2000/ week. This is money even lawyers with good clients don't make in Mexico and also puts them exactly center of middle class in the USA. With that money they are "well to do" in Mexico. The issue is consistently making that much.
I see a lot of messages complaining about the prices, I've also looked at prices in Colombia, Thailand and the Philipines, out of all the destinations Tijuana Mexico is still the cheapest.
Prices went up all over the world after the shutdown, inflation hit everyone and everything.
.I am not buying that at all. I know of Thailand and Colombia. Anyone who knows these places will tell you, no way in hell Tijuana is cheaper than those once you get there.
I am not buying that at all. I know of Thailand and Colombia. Anyone who knows these places will tell you, no way in hell Tijuana is cheaper than those once you get there.I've just read a report in the Medellin forum from a reliable source, he just came from a trip las September and he was quoted $200 in parque lleras, the equivalent of $60 in the casas (which is the equivalent of street girls in Tijuana), he didn't do any street action.
Lutron and Fase Dos were around $150 for 45 minutes.
Youtubers in Thailand and Philipines are quoting $150 to $200 dll's.
I've just read a report in the Medellin forum from a reliable source, he just came from a trip las September and he was quoted $200 in parque lleras, the equivalent of $60 in the casas (which is the equivalent of street girls in Tijuana), he didn't do any street action.
Lutron and Fase Dos were around $150 for 45 minutes.
Youtubers in Thailand and Philipines are quoting $150 to $200 dll's.I don't know who your reliable source is but that is not the typical rate in any of these countries. I'm thinking you're confusing the Colombian peso with the dollar. The going rate for many girls in Colombia is around 120-150 k cop which is about $40 usd. Whoever is paying $200 usd in Colombia is unfortunately being either stupid or ridiculously fooled. Likewise in Thailand. Was there very recently and no one is paying $150-200 usd for girls. I'm thinking you're confused or the posters you're referencing have no idea what they're doing. Tijuana is extremely convenient for quick trips across the border, however it's expensive compared to other cities across LATAM.
I've just read a report in the Medellin forum from a reliable source, he just came from a trip las September and he was quoted $200 in parque lleras, the equivalent of $60 in the casas (which is the equivalent of street girls in Tijuana), he didn't do any street action.
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Lutron and Fase Dos were around $150 for 45 minutes.
Youtubers in Thailand and Philipines are quoting $150 to $200 dll's.Every sane monger avoids poblado in Medellin, its a tourist trap, so is the strip clubs. Casas are not equivalent to SG's in Tijuana, they are much, very much better than the SG scene. In fact it is one of the top venues in which you get the best girls. I have almost 200 girls whom I befriended in FB, they are all quoting me around $50-60/ HR. If we met. I have not seen them in person but from the videos and pics they are top notch. One girl actually sent me her pic when she was out and about and then a video while she was masturbating, that girl is a knockout. In both she was holding my phone number written in a piece of paper. I sent her $30 for the effort. On and off she is till sending me some provocative pics. I send no more money.
Medellin is not like Tijuana, it is not a zoned out place where sex work takes place, they have no such area I know about. You go all over town to find women and you do and Poblado is the one place you avoid. Also the Hotels, food, transportation much cheaper than Tijuana.
Same thing can be said about Bangkok and Pattaya, places I visited. The Hotels I stayed in, better than what you see in Ticuan were for $25-$35/ night. For $7 dollars they brought me a fish dish enough for 5 people. I was like whoa I did not order all this. I was there before the pandemic and I paid $60 short time (Usually runs into the hour) for go go girls, now it seems gone up to about $80.
I don't know anything about the Philippines. Being quoted $200 doesn't mean that is the only thing available. You have options. In Tijuana not much. You have to haggle with Mongers and Putas to keep the price low.
Just wondering if all rooms in Cascadas have a safe / lockbox? Or is it only the more expensive ones?
I see recommendations to go with the double vs the single room, are the double room on higher floors away from the club noise?
I also see rooms with stripper poles and Jacuzzi. Will the girls actually use it?
It does affect others. Know that.The problem with this thinking is that ISG members make the market, so to speak, to such an extent to effect prices. I don't think ISG members make the market in Hong Kong club or any other p4 p establishment in the world. Majority of the men who visit Hong Kong (or any other such place in the world) are not ISG members, so the going rate is established by others and the girls not ISG members.
Even if an ISG member overpays and the girl expects higher price from other customers, the rest of the men who visit that place either accept or refuse to pay the girl that price. If they refuse to pay then prices don't go up otherwise, they will go up. In any case, the point I am making is that the non-ISG members have most influence on price increases than ISG members. Even if all ISG members stick together and decide not to overpay it is not going to work because that doesn't have any effect / control / influence over majority of the men who make the market pay. Until all males in the world who partake in mongering has a place to communicate and decide what one should pay to keep prices in check, it is useless to get upset / angry at a member who honestly is sharing their experience here including what they paid. On the other hand, the girls working in an establishment can easily collude / communicate quite easily and try to set prices, but it may not work if most men who visit the place refuse to pay.
We think ISG is some huge site, and the members make up the majority of the punters in the world. I highly doubt that is the case. It's more like a just a drop in the bucket.
Just for reference, I had visited Tijuana few times early 2000's and I remember paying 50-70 bucks.
TerOnlyOnce
12-10-24, 07:30
If you're not negotiating at all and just taking the first rate that is given to you, then you are making a mistake.
Only exception for this is if you are quoted an already "low" rate from the beginning.
I say "low" in quotations because what is considered low in HK is questionable at this point.
A few years ago you used to be able to get girls for $80 usd. Now in 2024 and coming into 2025 it seems that the bare minimum is $100, with the absolute lowest being $90 if you're willing to go through a lot of girls declining your offer and you having to negotiate hard on top of that.
I don't think it's even possible to get $80 usd for a session in HK anymore. Idk, maybe some monger out there is able to stumble upon 1 HK girl that is willing to do it, the point is though that it's not likely at this point and $100 will give you more access.
Now, knowing this, you should be hesitant about paying any more than $100 for a session.
If a girl is quoting you $120, you should highly consider just walking away, regardless of how hot she is.
The root problem though is that if you can only go to HK once or twice in a year, you're better off visiting a few times in your life and never going back again.
Because if you can't regularly go to HK, you have no leverage when it comes to negotiating how much you pay for an arriba.
You basically arrive at the club your one Friday and Saturday night of the whole year in which you can come to HK, and whatever girls happen to be there those nights is basically all your opportunities for the year. And if the girls you are attracted to and want to go arriba with decide that they will charge $120 and will not budge under that amount under any circumstances, then you pretty much have two options.
Option 1) pay the inflated amount and most likely get a bad service, and on top of that most likely the girl will require you pay upfront (you should never pay upfront and make it clear that you won't before you take the girl up).
Option 2) walk away and end up leaving HK without having sex with any girls. After you've spent a bunch of time and money on travel to get there.
Basically the point is that if you can't regularly go to HK, you basically can't negotiate.
This includes being able to negotiate prices as well as being able to negotiate the fact that you won't pay upfront under any circumstances.
In both instances you have to walk away if the negotiation isn't going in your favor. But if you're not a regular you can't just come back to the club tomorrow or next weekend and try again. Essentially continuing to comb through girls until you get one that agrees to your terms.
If you live too far from HK, your best bet is to visit maybe 2-3 times in your life, pay the $120 per session, get your little sex sessions, have some fun with girls, bust some nuts, and then that's it. Never come back to HK again.
If you are able to go to HK regularly and it won't be a problem for you, then you should always negotiate everything. And if any terms of yours are not agreed upon, then do not bring them up to the room under any circumstances and try a different girl.
LuvMexicanas
12-10-24, 15:58
Just wondering if all rooms in Cascadas have a safe / lockbox? Or is it only the more expensive ones?
I see recommendations to go with the double vs the single room, are the double room on higher floors away from the club noise?
I also see rooms with stripper poles and Jacuzzi. Will the girls actually use it?I haven't stayed in Cascadas for quite some time because I'm pretty much done with Hong Kong and prefer Tinder, but the reason to go with the double is one bed for fucking and the other for sleeping. Initially perplexed chicas chuckled when I gave them that response after they asked me why I have two beds.
MongerHunger
12-10-24, 17:29
I've just read a report in the Medellin forum from a reliable source, he just came from a trip las September and he was quoted $200 in parque lleras, the equivalent of $60 in the casas (which is the equivalent of street girls in Tijuana), he didn't do any street action.
Lutron and Fase Dos were around $150 for 45 minutes.
Youtubers in Thailand and Philipines are quoting $150 to $200 dll's.I've been to Tijuana, Medellin, Thailand and The Philippines. Your reliable source is giving out some inflated rates that is not representative of the reality there, especially when they are quoting dollars in a foreign country. (Never Pay in Dollars!) It's not nearly that high unless they got suckered, fooled and taken advantage of which it sounds like what happened. In my experience (as of October 2024) it's only a fraction of what you are quoting it is.
MongerHunger
12-10-24, 18:28
If you live too far from HK, your best bet is to visit maybe 2-3 times in your life, pay the $120 per session, get your little sex sessions, have some fun with girls, bust some nuts, and then that's it. Never come back to HK again.No Sir! Bad Advice. You should ALWAYS negotiate regardless. The likely outcome will be $100 and not $120. If you want to take it a step further, negotiate in pesos, not dollars. The exchange rate is good right now and offer her 2 K pesos instead.
Interesting read, but I disagree with most of it.
I think you're trying too hard to make me look at the experience of going there the way that you do, and I don't. I'm one of those that go only a couple of times a year and frankly in well over a decade of doing this I have yet to have an unsatisfying visit overall. I can't be bothered to spend half or more of my time there negotiating and 90% of the time I have a great session by just agreeing to the girl's asking price. The other 10% is almost always a lack of chemistry that has nothing to do with the money I'm spending.
I think you have that part of it backwards. If you're a hardass about the price, chances are you're going to be less satisfied because the girl is less satisfied by what she's getting for the service she's offering. Not to mention the fact that this isn't bickering about the price of a pair of shoes in the mercado. These are real people and they deserve a bit of respect that I don't think you're giving them.
IMO if you're going to the ZN a couple of dozen times a year then you're spending too much time and money on prostitutes and that's a whole different issue. Getting your panties in a knot over ten or twenty bucks or whether the taxi costs eight bucks versus five seems pretty silly to me when you're spending literally thousands every year on your p4 p hobby. Give your head a shake.
Ultimately it comes down to this: I'll spend my money and time there the way I want to. Your opinions are noted but IDGAF if I'm pricing you out of the market. That means more for me. That's capitalism, comrade. Democracy, whiskey, sexy. Sorry not sorry if you miss out on the sexy part (lol).
If you're not negotiating at all and just taking the first rate that is given to you, then you are making a mistake.
Only exception for this is if you are quoted an already "low" rate from the beginning.
I say "low" in quotations because what is considered low in HK is questionable at this point.
A few years ago you used to be able to get girls for $80 usd. Now in 2024 and coming into 2025 it seems that the bare minimum is $100, with the absolute lowest being $90 if you're willing to go through a lot of girls declining your offer and you having to negotiate hard on top of that.
I don't think it's even possible to get $80 usd for a session in HK anymore. Idk, maybe some monger out there is able to stumble upon 1 HK girl that is willing to do it, the point is though that it's not likely at this point and $100 will give you more access.
Now, knowing this, you should be hesitant about paying any more than $100 for a session.
If a girl is quoting you $120, you should highly consider just walking away, regardless of how hot she is.
The root problem though is that if you can only go to HK once or twice in a year, you're better off visiting a few times in your life and never going back again.
Because if you can't regularly go to HK, you have no leverage when it comes to negotiating how much you pay for an arriba.
You basically arrive at the club your one Friday and Saturday night of the whole year in which you can come to HK, and whatever girls happen to be there those nights is basically all your opportunities for the year. And if the girls you are attracted to and want to go arriba with decide that they will charge $120 and will not budge under that amount under any circumstances, then you pretty much have two options.
Option 1) pay the inflated amount and most likely get a bad service, and on top of that most likely the girl will require you pay upfront (you should never pay upfront and make it clear that you won't before you take the girl up).
Option 2) walk away and end up leaving HK without having sex with any girls. After you've spent a bunch of time and money on travel to get there.
Basically the point is that if you can't regularly go to HK, you basically can't negotiate.
This includes being able to negotiate prices as well as being able to negotiate the fact that you won't pay upfront under any circumstances.
In both instances you have to walk away if the negotiation isn't going in your favor. But if you're not a regular you can't just come back to the club tomorrow or next weekend and try again. Essentially continuing to comb through girls until you get one that agrees to your terms.
If you live too far from HK, your best bet is to visit maybe 2-3 times in your life, pay the $120 per session, get your little sex sessions, have some fun with girls, bust some nuts, and then that's it. Never come back to HK again.
If you are able to go to HK regularly and it won't be a problem for you, then you should always negotiate everything. And if any terms of yours are not agreed upon, then do not bring them up to the room under any circumstances and try a different girl.
Pretty sure that all of the rooms have a safe. The contact email is on the Cascadas website so you can always ask them and get the real answer. .
The stripper poles and jacuzzis are only in some of the rooms and the only way to know if the girl will use them is to ask them.
Just wondering if all rooms in Cascadas have a safe / lockbox? Or is it only the more expensive ones?
I see recommendations to go with the double vs the single room, are the double room on higher floors away from the club noise?
I also see rooms with stripper poles and Jacuzzi. Will the girls actually use it?
I wrote a few days back about a good experience I had with a girl at HK. I paid that girl $160, which apparently made some people upset. What is more, I had been on a string of pretty good GFE level sessions, so I was feeling pretty confident about my upcoming visit to HK. Unfortunately, It didn't work out that way.
It was unusually busy yesterday, considering that Mondays are typically somewhat slower. It was so busy that, at one point, they opened up the stage on the upper level. I actually wish they would just leave that area open all the time because it's a little bit less crowded, and I like to chill out there for a bit. I don't understand the mentality that crowded is better so that we need to be hemmed into a smaller area on the weekdays. Does anyone actually care if it looks crowded? I just care about the selection.
Anyway, it was a bit of a sausage fest, which was kind of a bummer since I go either Monday or Tuesday to get the room discount and avoid the sausages. There was one girl I had my eye on. She was a new girl, or, at least, I hadn't seen her there before. Unfortunately, she was busy with a client almost the whole night. I hung out at HK for a bit. Did the rounds to tropical and Chicago. Not much to my liking at these places. Then returned to HK. Finally, this girl was free, so I made my approach.
We sat down and had drinks, did the obligatory small talk. She didn't speak any english. She seemed really tired. At one point I asked her when her shift began and she said 1 pm. It was around 4 am at the time, so apparently she had been there over 15 hours?! I guess she had perfect justification for being tired, but I was still kind of put off by the fact the she seemed disinterested and gave me the vibe of just wanting to go home. At one point I leaned in for a kiss, to try to see if maybe she was a bit shy, but she responded with a kind of dead fish kiss on the mouth. It wasn't going that great, but it was difficult to tell if she was not interested or just exhausted.
Finally, I asked here if she wanted to come to my room. She said yes, but that the cost was $150. I was slightly suprised by this because she was more of a young, girl next door type than one of the fake breasted vamps that would normally try to price gouge you. When she said that, it pretty much sealed it that we weren't going to go. I felt no need to negotiate because it was apparent that she had no enthusiasm and it would just be transactional. I told her something along the lines of "there isn't enough chemistry to justify a price of 150" and sent her on her way. After that, since there wasn't any other girls I was that interested in, I just left--the night was a loss.
It's strange because the is the first girl in over a year that quoted me any price. I usually try to avoid any discussion of price so that I can just pay what I want after the session is over. I am generous though so the girls don't complain that it's too little. I actually figure out a fair price more by reading this board than by asking the girls. A girl asking for the money upfront changes the whole dynamic for me.
That's the life of an HK monger. One day you are the king of the world, The next week, it's back in the dumpster. The only consistent thing is that I will be back next week.
Hello brothers,
Anyone have any Christmas break experience? Is it a complete waste of effort?
Explorer8939
12-11-24, 20:15
Hello brothers,
Anyone have any Christmas break experience? Is it a complete waste of effort?Most ladies go home for Christmas.
TerOnlyOnce
12-12-24, 00:04
I wrote a few days back about a good experience I had with a girl at HK. I paid that girl $160, which apparently made some people upset. What is more, I had been on a string of pretty good GFE level sessions, so I was feeling pretty confident about my upcoming visit to HK. Unfortunately, It didn't work out that way.
It was unusually busy yesterday, considering that Mondays are typically somewhat slower. It was so busy that, at one point, they opened up the stage on the upper level. I actually wish they would just leave that area open all the time because it's a little bit less crowded, and I like to chill out there for a bit. I don't understand the mentality that crowded is better so that we need to be hemmed into a smaller area on the weekdays. Does anyone actually care if it looks crowded? I just care about the selection.
Anyway, it was a bit of a sausage fest, which was kind of a bummer since I go either Monday or Tuesday to get the room discount and avoid the sausages. There was one girl I had my eye on. She was a new girl, or, at least, I hadn't seen her there before. Unfortunately, she was busy with a client almost the whole night. I hung out at HK for a bit. Did the rounds to tropical and Chicago. Not much to my liking at these places. Then returned to HK. Finally, this girl was free, so I made my approach.
We sat down and had drinks, did the obligatory small talk. She didn't speak any english. She seemed really tired. At one point I asked her when her shift began and she said 1 pm. It was around 4 am at the time, so apparently she had been there over 15 hours?! I guess she had perfect justification for being tired, but I was still kind of put off by the fact the she seemed disinterested and gave me the vibe of just wanting to go home. At one point I leaned in for a kiss, to try to see if maybe she was a bit shy, but she responded with a kind of dead fish kiss on the mouth. It wasn't going that great, but it was difficult to tell if she was not interested or just exhausted.
Finally, I asked here if she wanted to come to my room. She said yes, but that the cost was $150. I was slightly suprised by this because she was more of a young, girl next door type than one of the fake breasted vamps that would normally try to price gouge you. When she said that, it pretty much sealed it that we weren't going to go. I felt no need to negotiate because it was apparent that she had no enthusiasm and it would just be transactional. I told her something along the lines of "there isn't enough chemistry to justify a price of 150" and sent her on her way. After that, since there wasn't any other girls I was that interested in, I just left--the night was a loss.
It's strange because the is the first girl in over a year that quoted me any price. I usually try to avoid any discussion of price so that I can just pay what I want after the session is over. I am generous though so the girls don't complain that it's too little. I actually figure out a fair price more by reading this board than by asking the girls. A girl asking for the money upfront changes the whole dynamic for me.
That's the life of an HK monger. One day you are the king of the world, The next week, it's back in the dumpster. The only consistent thing is that I will be back next week.Solid report, I agree that if you're not satisfied with the price then don't be compelled to take the deal, you can always walk away.
The issue becomes when you only go to HK 1 or 2 times per year and spend hundreds of dollars and a 3-5 hour flight to get there.
At that, paying that $150 may be tempting if she is the only girl that night that you want and she refuses to budge below $150.
That's why I said before that it's difficult to negotiate if you only go a few times a year. Compared to if you can go to HK every weekend, then you're in terrific shape.
You can afford to leave Friday and Saturday night empty handed with no skin off your back, and simply come back next weekend for another try.
If you're on a vacation though? Then you can't afford to do that.
Interesting read, but I disagree with most of it.
I think you're trying too hard to make me look at the experience of going there the way that you do, and I don't. I'm one of those that go only a couple of times a year and frankly in well over a decade of doing this I have yet to have an unsatisfying visit overall. I can't be bothered to spend half or more of my time there negotiating and 90% of the time I have a great session by just agreeing to the girl's asking price. The other 10% is almost always a lack of chemistry that has nothing to do with the money I'm spending.
I think you have that part of it backwards. If you're a hardass about the price, chances are you're going to be less satisfied because the girl is less satisfied by what she's getting for the service she's offering. Not to mention the fact that this isn't bickering about the price of a pair of shoes in the mercado. These are real people and they deserve a bit of respect that I don't think you're giving them.
IMO if you're going to the ZN a couple of dozen times a year then you're spending too much time and money on prostitutes and that's a whole different issue. Getting your panties in a knot over ten or twenty bucks or whether the taxi costs eight bucks versus five seems pretty silly to me when you're spending literally thousands every year on your p4 p hobby. Give your head a shake.
Ultimately it comes down to this: I'll spend my money and time there the way I want to. Your opinions are noted but IDGAF if I'm pricing you out of the market. That means more for me. That's capitalism, comrade. Democracy, whiskey, sexy. Sorry not sorry if you miss out on the sexy part (lol).I prefer to negotiate but you can pass on that if you want.
Also, if you're only going a couple of times a year then I question for what purpose you are going for and how much money (flight tickets, transportation) and time are you investing to get there.
If it's not that much and you prefer to just go to HK a few times a year, then you can do that.
The point still stands though that it's obvious one should talk about what they want in the room and how much it's going to cost before they bring the girl to the room.
If you don't do that, you're definitely going to run into bad experiences more often than not. The environment of HK and the girls that work there doesn't allow you to just be care free and get guaranteed quality every time. In HK you need to select for girls that are likely to give you a good experience, and go with those.
Sure you can just take them up after some good conversation, but you will randomly get bad occurrences because you are skipping an obvious precaution which is to negotiate and make sure you're going to get what you want.
It's strange because the is the first girl in over a year that quoted me any price. I usually try to avoid any discussion of price so that I can just pay what I want after the session is over. I am generous though so the girls don't complain that it's too little. I actually figure out a fair price more by reading this board than by asking the girls. A girl asking for the money upfront changes the whole dynamic for me.
That's the life of an HK monger. One day you are the king of the world, The next week, it's back in the dumpster. The only consistent thing is that I will be back next week.If a price hasn't been discussed and the session goes well, I always give $120. Never been a problem. A lot of times the girls don't even count the money and stuff it in their purse. If a session is pretty standard, then I give $100. Never really been an issue either. Luckily I haven't really had any bad sessions with newer girls this year. I can only think of one or maybe two, which ended up being the wham bam thank you ma'am types. But yeah, if a girl never discusses a fee and you can tell she had a good time with you as well, all they want is a fair fee, which to me I have calculated as $100 as the base, and a $20 bonus if she offered any extras like DFK or BBBJ.
LuvMexicanas
12-12-24, 07:43
If a price hasn't been discussed and the session goes well, I always give $120. Never been a problem. A lot of times the girls don't even count the money and stuff it in their purse. If a session is pretty standard, then I give $100. Never really been an issue either. Luckily I haven't really had any bad sessions with newer girls this year. I can only think of one or maybe two, which ended up being the wham bam thank you ma'am types. But yeah, if a girl never discusses a fee and you can tell she had a good time with you as well, all they want is a fair fee, which to me I have calculated as $100 as the base, and a $20 bonus if she offered any extras like DFK or BBBJ.Not to brag but I've had chicas stay the night with me for free. How? They just want a place to crash and a 20 dollar bribe will prevent any knocking.
Been going to Tijuana for decades. This use to happen a lot more often. The bottom line is everyone sees US tourists as a chance to make money. That includes police. If they find anything illegal they will expect a fine to be paid on the spot. I have gotten out of this having tinted windows and driving wrong way on one way road. Tijuana beach police got a "fine" from me for having open container a few years ago but I did not have time to screw around having flight to catch.
Based on how easy it is to get cocaine in 2024 I am assuming police find drugs on people a lot more in 2024.
The price thing from girls has always been there. In 2019 a couple super hot girls in HK wanted $150 and left when I would not pay it. I am not against paying a girl more than 100 but I do expet better service. Will not pay more just because she looks better. Got a lot of trophy girls in the case already. I want more locas at this stage of my monger career.
Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me - for no reason at all - and frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world bullshit.
Overall, I didn't enjoy this trip quite as much as I usually do. Prices have definitely gone up, and I felt like the overall quality of girls has slightly decreased. There are fewer young spinners. The nonstop blaring music and elbowing through the hordes of mongers gets old very quickly. I also got a sore throat on the last day which definitely put a damper on the trip.
Captain Solo
12-12-24, 18:19
We were in HK most of Sunday night, sitting at the football booth in the middle of the club, watch sport, drink, ogle girls, not too many hot ones early in the afternoon. Couple wingmen showed up, Luke, Storm Trooper, MMAFAN, R2, Randy ect. So much fun to meet up with wingmen. We were having a good time drinking, waiting for the hottest second-shift girls to show by 6 PM.
Noob quickly bagged a tall, slim stripper, light-skinned covered with large tattoos from head to toes, unbelievable. I guess he's a patron of the arts hehe. Eventually noob took 3 HK girls up.
R2's Tijuana GF is pregnant but was drinking heavily in HK as of last week. Her tummy has gotten so large she no longer wants to go in HK to party, but was jealous that he may be screwing other girls. Of course he would be screwing other girls as her big tummy interferes with good penetration. A new slim, young girl straddled R2 lap, talking a long time without the normal fichas. She agreed to $100 for an hour BBFS. He quickly took her to the hotel. He came down after a very long session with this girl, exhausted. I had to bank him money to take the pregnant GF to dinner and give her some for food next week. R2 got quite a few good deals with HK girls, but sometimes he was still ripped off by sharks. Cannot win them all.
Tiffany was a tall, slim, light-skinned stripper with a pretty face looking more like English or German. A wingman was in love with her for years, taking her up every time. She came back stripping this week, but 4 years after CoVid19 shutdown, her face and body padded some age. She looked more like a tired MILF. I texted and alerted the young wingman but he never answered, may have died of illness or by ex wife's mischiefs hehe.
I offered beers to a few hot spinners, got tels of local Tijuana girls for future hook ups and potential vacaciones, eventually took 2 to the hotel, hot 18 and 20 YO Tijuana spinners with limited English. They all started with $150 and agreed to $120 for half hour with no kissing or DATY. For the same money, you can have an hour with hot, young escorts from Goodgirls with DFK, DATY and possible BBFS with a little propina, some will go to hotels in La Zona. Will do both escorts and HK girls next trip.
We checked Tropical and Chicago but found no hot girls; quickly returned to HK.
We ordered 2-4-1 steak dinners with Azuls' coupon, 1 rib eye, 1 arrachera with french fries, string beans, mushroom, white toast, tortillas ect, brought to our table. Steaks were perfect medium, cut up, tender, smoky and tasty. Azul's has improved its cuisine a great deal. It was a fun dinner while knocking down a few Tequila shots, ogling 100 hot, young girls fluttering, flirting all around us.
I also had 5 tires balanced, a fender painted for cheap, a quick hair cut, spicy and delish shrimp cocktails, tacos, beef soup, Azuls' steaks, fun time partying with hot young girls then their sexy companies in bed, damn good time, worth driving down, despite the policia shakedown annoyance. Really nice hanging wingmen again. Will likely repeat the good time next Sunday.
Not to brag but I've had chicas stay the night with me for free. How? They just want a place to crash and a 20 dollar bribe will prevent any knocking.I've had girls stay with me gratis as well LOL. But that's another subject.
Toobusyforlove
12-12-24, 22:18
Hey guys, been reading a while trying to prepare for my first HK trip in January.
Been scouring forum but is there a post you can point me too with a list of useful spanish phrases to learn before I go?
A girl came to my room and stayed until her shift was over. The club hates this. We had a blast and she intiated getting my contact information. The next week we spent the night at a rental condo on the beach. She got $100 for going up to my room from the club and did not want any extra money for the club night or going to condo the following week.
I got to know her and understand what was going on. My only suggestion to people is treat the locas how they want to be treated and understand they have lives outside of being a club girl.
I've had girls stay with me gratis as well LOL. But that's another subject.
The problem with this thinking is that ISG members make the market, so to speak, to such an extent to effect prices. I don't think ISG members make the market in Hong Kong club or any other p4 p establishment in the world. Majority of the men who visit Hong Kong (or any other such place in the world) are not ISG members, so the going rate is established by others and the girls not ISG members.
Even if an ISG member overpays and the girl expects higher price from other customers, the rest of the men who visit that place either accept or refuse to pay the girl that price. If they refuse to pay then prices don't go up otherwise, they will go up. In any case, the point I am making is that the non-ISG members have most influence on price increases than ISG members. Even if all ISG members stick together and decide not to overpay it is not going to work because that doesn't have any effect / control / influence over majority of the men who make the market pay. Until all males in the world who partake in mongering has a place to communicate and decide what one should pay to keep prices in check, it is useless to get upset / angry at a member who honestly is sharing their experience here including what they paid. On the other hand, the girls working in an establishment can easily collude / communicate quite easily and try to set prices, but it may not work if most men who visit the place refuse to pay.
We think ISG is some huge site, and the members make up the majority of the punters in the world. I highly doubt that is the case. It's more like a just a drop in the bucket.
Just for reference, I had visited Tijuana few times early 2000's and I remember paying 50-70 bucks.We are just discussing, because it scratches that itch to talk about anything related to beautiful latinas that offer no string attached momentary love.
Explorer8939
12-14-24, 02:06
Hey guys, been reading a while trying to prepare for my first HK trip in January.
Been scouring forum but is there a post you can point me too with a list of useful spanish phrases to learn before I go?http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1808-Mexican-Spanish-Phrases
Hey guys, been reading a while trying to prepare for my first HK trip in January.
Been scouring forum but is there a post you can point me too with a list of useful spanish phrases to learn before I go?There is some discussion here http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1808-Mexican-Spanish-Phrases.
DonCarlos1234
12-16-24, 08:05
The problem with this thinking is that ISG members make the market, so to speak, to such an extent to effect prices. I don't think ISG members make the market in Hong Kong club or any other p4 p establishment in the world. Majority of the men who visit Hong Kong (or any other such place in the world) are not ISG members, so the going rate is established by others and the girls not ISG members.
We think ISG is some huge site, and the members make up the majority of the punters in the world. I highly doubt that is the case. It's more like a just a drop in the bucket.
.There are an estimated 40–42 million commercial sex workers worldwide.
DonCarlos1234
12-16-24, 08:49
Every sane monger avoids poblado in Medellin, its a tourist trap, so is the strip clubs. Casas are not equivalent to SG's in Tijuana, they are much, very much better than the SG scene. In fact it is one of the top venues in which you get the best girls. I have almost 200 girls whom I befriended in FB, they are all quoting me around $50-60/ HR. If we met. I have not seen them in person but from the videos and pics they are top notch. One girl actually sent me her pic when she was out and about and then a video while she was masturbating, that girl is a knockout. In both she was holding my phone number written in a piece of paper. I sent her $30 for the effort. On and off she is till sending me some provocative pics. I send no more money.
Medellin is not like Tijuana, it is not a zoned out place where sex work takes place, they have no such area I know about. You go all over town to find women and you do and Poblado is the one place you avoid. Also the Hotels, food, transportation much cheaper than Tijuana.
Same thing can be said about Bangkok and Pattaya, places I visited. The Hotels I stayed in, better than what you see in Ticuan were for $25-$35/ night. For $7 dollars they brought me a fish dish enough for 5 people. .My motto has always been, START at the top and work your way down. I know it's not for everyone, especially on this board. I miss Colombia.
Brazil. Sao Paulo / Rio. Quality is 10 + . And the prices (who cares) are very affordable. It's a long flight but the girls are not midgets like the asians. LOL and there are a lot of them! Scandallo.
TIJUANA (HKTJ) - A lot of slam bam arriba girls. Some hot girls still want 30 minute "sessions" . Price is OK if you like quickies. I know you guys in Socal never get laid. So it's worth it for the release.
Colombia. Miami guys are the ones spoiled. Going to MEDELLIN for the weekend banging everything they can and shooting youtube videos. Wide range of girls / costs also vary. Yes La Isla has gone up 50%. Colombia tourism is through the roof, 5 star hotels are way better than Mexico / a lot cheaper.
Bogota is still very affordable with high quality but risky enough most guys are afraid to go. Finding someone worth spending time with in any of these destinations is the challenge.
LuvMexicanas
12-16-24, 15:35
My motto has always been, START at the top and work your way down. I know it's not for everyone, especially on this board. I miss Colombia.
Brazil. Sao Paulo / Rio. Quality is 10 + . And the prices (who cares) are very affordable. It's a long flight but the girls are not midgets like the asians. LOL and there are a lot of them! Scandallo.
TIJUANA (HKTJ) - A lot of slam bam arriba girls. Some hot girls still want 30 minute "sessions" . Price is OK if you like quickies. I know you guys in Socal never get laid. So it's worth it for the release.
Colombia. Miami guys are the ones spoiled. Going to MEDELLIN for the weekend banging everything they can and shooting youtube videos. Wide range of girls / costs also vary. Yes La Isla has gone up 50%. Colombia tourism is through the roof, 5 star hotels are way better than Mexico / a lot cheaper.
Bogota is still very affordable with high quality but risky enough most guys are afraid to go. Finding someone worth spending time with in any of these destinations is the challenge.None of the above matters if your Tinder game is strong. At that point it's just about personal preference. I've mongered and done civvies in Brazil. Are the women amazing? Yes but a Mexicana who you're not paying is tops for me. What isn't even a close call for me is the food. For my taste, give me the food in Mexico all day over Brazil.
Stopped by last night for about an hour and a half. Thought there wouldn't be as many girls as usual but it was pretty much the same as any other Sunday. Girls did not seem eager to do business though. For the most part they were all just standing around or playing on their phones. None of the girls in my rotation were on duty, unfortunately. Parked myself in a couple spots during the time I was there for about a half hour each time and only a couple girls came up to me. I actually liked one of them that did, but she gave off more of a friendly vibe instead of a sexual one, so I just gave her a tip and let her continue on her way.
Found another girl I have been somewhat interested in for a while now sitting in Chavelas, but she appeared lifeless and bored out of her mind. There was a chance I could have sat down and engaged her in some conversation to spruce her up but didn't feel like putting in the work since it was approaching midnight and would have rather head home and give it a try some other day when I wouldn't be looking at the clock.
None of the above matters if your Tinder game is strong. At that point it's just about personal preference. I've mongered and done civvies in Brazil. Are the women amazing? Yes but a Mexicana who you're not paying is tops for me. What isn't even a close call for me is the food. For my taste, give me the food in Mexico all day over Brazil.Mexico and Peru have the best food in the world; Brazil has the best women in the world hands down.
LuvMexicanas
12-17-24, 15:37
Mexico and Peru have the best food in the world; Brazil has the best women in the world hands down.To each his own but there's something about hearing "mas duro papi" that doubles my load volume.
Mexico and Peru have the best food in the world; Brazil has the best women in the world hands down.Fair enough. I vouch for the food in Tijuana.
The problem with this thinking is that ISG members make the market, so to speak, to such an extent to effect prices. I don't think ISG members make the market in Hong Kong club or any other p4 p establishment in the world. Majority of the men who visit Hong Kong (or any other such place in the world) are not ISG members, so the going rate is established by others and the girls not ISG members.
Even if an ISG member overpays and the girl expects higher price from other customers, the rest of the men who visit that place either accept or refuse to pay the girl that price. If they refuse to pay then prices don't go up otherwise, they will go up. In any case, the point I am making is that the non-ISG members have most influence on price increases than ISG members. Even if all ISG members stick together and decide not to overpay it is not going to work because that doesn't have any effect / control / influence over majority of the men who make the market pay. Until all males in the world who partake in mongering has a place to communicate and decide what one should pay to keep prices in check, it is useless to get upset / angry at a member who honestly is sharing their experience here including what they paid. On the other hand, the girls working in an establishment can easily collude / communicate quite easily and try to set prices, but it may not work if most men who visit the place refuse to pay.Right, ISG is just a drop in the bucket when it comes to the amount of men who partake. A lot of men who do this are not single so they want no digital footprint, I know guys who are afraid to look at XXX sites, no way they are creating an account here. Of all the mongers I've met in my life, and that's a lot, maybe 2% have ever heard of this site or the US site. This is a solo, discrete hobby that most men would not like people in their life to know about. My friend who I came to Tijuana with last time had been there 7 times in the last 6 months, he's never heard of this site, I asked him if he did any research, he said no, he just got info from a regular Tijuana visitor.
One thing I don't think people realize, especially those from the states, is that since it's basically legal in Mexico, there will be lots more clients, all kinds of clients. Guys who would not think about it in the US, are fine with coming to Mexico. This produces customers with drastically different income levels as some men are not going to Tijuana solely because the prices are better, there's little risk involved in seeing women there and it's extremely convenient. I don't understand complaining about rates, it's like taking your car down there, paying 1 k to get a repair done that you got quoted 3800 for in the US and getting pissed off because you got the same repair done there 2 years ago for 725. Men that are used to paying 3 times as much for sub par service, attitudes, deposit requests, tardiness, flaking out and all of the other wonderful things we deal with in the states will probably not negotiate to serve the great good of fellow mongers. That's not how life works. They will just be extremely happy to pay 3 times less for 3 times better service.
To each his own but there's something about hearing "mas duro papi" that doubles my load volume.Something about seeing a woman frantically playing with herself after I cum in her makes me acquire a new load.
LuvMexicanas
12-18-24, 19:18
Something about seeing a woman frantically playing with herself after I cum in her makes me acquire a new load.Good one as is the post-creampie a chica frantically taking your cock in her mouth to suck out every drop as to not waste any of the precious baby batter.
If I decided to stay at hotel in the area (Caesar's, Rio Rita, etc), go to HK and take a girl upstairs at HK what is the rate for the room? I had no issues with Riza when I stayed there but I'm not having sex 24/7 so I'd like a bit nicer place that I can chill in. The rates for the other hotels are much cheaper than Riza and Cascadas. I may even consider trying one of the online services.
If I decided to stay at hotel in the area (Caesar's, Rio Rita, etc), go to HK and take a girl upstairs at HK what is the rate for the room? I had no issues with Riza when I stayed there but I'm not having sex 24/7 so I'd like a bit nicer place that I can chill in. The rates for the other hotels are much cheaper than Riza and Cascadas. I may even consider trying one of the online services.The short time rentals of the rooms in Cas I believe now are around $30 if not more, let others clear that up. I never use those anymore since I lightened up since 8 years ago. They are just a bad deal and you get a knock by the clean up crew before it is time to leave. When they were a lot cheaper, like $12/ night with a VIP on Mondays and Tuesdays, I used to get 2 rooms, one a Master Suite and another Delux Single. I used the Single to get girls the Suite to sleep and chill. These days I just get a nice room and then cover the bed with a white sheet to tangle with the girls and remove it when they leave. All rooms have safes now a days.
Both the Hotels you listed suck. Cesaars the noise, RR the windowless rooms and high price. Use Ticuan and ask for rooms away from Las Pulgas on Rivo.
StudBucket
12-22-24, 19:02
Hi There,
Can anyone who has been comment or heard about how good Hong Kong would be on New Years? I am considering going there but do not want to go if it will be dead or have a lot less gals? What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks.
SB.
Hi There,
Can anyone who has been comment or heard about how good Hong Kong would be on New Years? I am considering going there but do not want to go if it will be dead or have a lot less gals? What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks.
SB.Unless you are new and excited, for regulars it would disappointing.
Hi There,
Can anyone who has been comment or heard about how good Hong Kong would be on New Years? I am considering going there but do not want to go if it will be dead or have a lot less gals? What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks.
SB.Well it definitely won't be dead but it will have less women.
With NYE being a Tuesday I'the imagine the hotel will be full or close to it since it's so cheap. So that means lots of guys in the club and less women. Aka a sausage fest.
So it's not the best night but if your other choice is being home alone why not go and see what happens. I'm sure some on this board will be going so maybe you can try to meet up with others.
LuvMexicanas
12-22-24, 20:33
Hi There,
Can anyone who has been comment or heard about how good Hong Kong would be on New Years? I am considering going there but do not want to go if it will be dead or have a lot less gals? What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks.
SB.It will be a swordfight, sausage fest, whatever you want to call it. There will be women but too many swinging dicks.
StudBucket
12-22-24, 22:44
Unless you are new and excited, for regulars it would disappointing.No I am semi-regular, go about every other month. So, its uneventful and less girls? Yikes.
Explorer8939
12-22-24, 23:43
Hi There,
Can anyone who has been comment or heard about how good Hong Kong would be on New Years? I am considering going there but do not want to go if it will be dead or have a lot less gals? What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks.
SB.Worst night of the year for going to Tijuana bars. The ladies disappear very early.
Captain Solo
12-23-24, 03:24
Azuls came up with a big menu with many interesting dishes for mongers. HK VIPs get 20% discount, also Cascada's coupon for free breakfasts, like steak and eggs.
The 450 grams Rib eyes are now 425 pesos or $21 with fewer garnish, used to be 250 pesos with lots of good garnishes. A shrimp cocktails is 290 pesos, 100 pesos on the street, better fresher, tastier.
https://menusqr.info/restaurante-azul-english-menu/
No I am semi-regular, go about every other month. So, its uneventful and less girls? Yikes.Might pick up at night. You could have fun just be open minded as the usual buzz won't be there, specially when it comes to the girls.
Explorer8939
12-23-24, 13:34
Might pick up at night. You could have fun just be open minded as the usual buzz won't be there, specially when it comes to the girls.Just the opposite on New Years, the ladies disappear for the night, and what is left is a bunch of rookie guys asking each other where the ladies are.
Baxter Slade
12-23-24, 16:57
It will be a swordfight, sausage fest, whatever you want to call it. There will be women but too many swinging dicks.Did I ever tell you about my trip to Zorro bar? It might even be a NYE option. Just remember to spit your beer out when they deliver the $18 lady drink. And say WTF, fichas at HK are only $11. They will respond ohhh sorry sir I will bring the half size beer for $9.
If for no other reason go to experience ave. Revolucions last clip joint. And if you are really adventurous stop at bar Reno on your way back to HK I bet they will be having one wild NYE party.
Went last Saturday. Probably the worst day to go unless you are just looking to drink and party in a strip club environment. I just went to go "scouting" for talent and also because my normal Monday / Tuesday routine is too close to Christmas. It was the normal sausage fest, but maybe actually slightly less crowded since they didn't seem to have the upper level above the main club open. Talent selection was just ok. It was just all the same girls who are there Monday / Tuesday anyway.
I didn't see anything special, or any new girls. Actually, there was this one semi-new skinny girl who I might like to give a try. Not on Saturday, though. I've held back thus far because she seems a bit serious. I was trying to stealthily observe her interacting with a client from a distance, but it was difficult because she kept looking over at me, like she was aware I was watching her. So that may be a positive sign. Unfortunately, last time I was there, she seemed to be hanging out with these two other girls who were both wearing glasses. Now this, for me, is generally a red flag. Girls who wear glasses are difficult / weird / lesbians in my book, and girls who hang out with them are guilty by association. That being said, I may have to bite the bullet with this particular girl because she is pretty cute.
Also went to Chicago and Tropical. Chicago had a couple decent ones. I don't know, though. I never seem to get motivated to go with a girl at Chicago. I think part of it is that I like having my own room nowadays. It's far superior to renting the short time room. So that if Iv'e already rented a room at Cascadas or Rizo, it seems a waste of money to pay an additional room charge at Chicago. I'm not even sure what longer term arrangements can be made at Chicago, if any. I haven't been with any girls from Chicago for several years.
There are also a couple girls in Tropical I've had my eye on, one of them I've been with already. Last time, she was super friendly and gave me an unrestricted GFE session. They were both busy, though, the majority of the night. The one girl, the one I've been with, is pretty popular, unfortunately, because she doesn't have much competition there. This is kind of a smart move on her part. She literally said as much, that she didn't want to work at HK because she thought there would be too much competition. For me, it's not so good. I usually try to avoid the super popular girls, as it puts you at a disadvantage. I absolutely hate having to wait my turn with every other Tom Dick and Harry. So, time will tell whether I repeat with her. You know, some women are just better at drawing men to them, and it's not always a function of looks. It's amazing to me that I can sometimes find these super young hotties that haven't been with a client all night!
I didn't really want to spring for the more expensive (or the rip0 ff short term) room, so I didn't go with anyone. But, I walked around, listened to some music, had some beers, better than sitting at home: reconnaissance mission accomplished.
I may be back next Monday. Really, I'm just waiting for the holidays to be over. Holidays, in general, usually just mean more dudes and not really better selection. And you get a lot of out-of-towners coming in wanting to throw their money around with their once a year adventure. What's good for the girls is generally not good for us regulars. By mid January, though, it's back to business as usual.
Hi There,
Can anyone who has been comment or heard about how good Hong Kong would be on New Years? I am considering going there but do not want to go if it will be dead or have a lot less gals? What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks.
SB.A lot of the girls will try to get out of working that night because they want to go party in the normal places: revolution, Alebrijes, Rosarito, etc. Better to just hit up revolution, new years eve. You will probably see half the girls from the zone norte there.
LuvMexicanas
12-23-24, 22:16
Did I ever tell you about my trip to Zorro bar? It might even be a NYE option. Just remember to spit your beer out when they deliver the $18 lady drink. And say WTF, fichas at HK are only $11. They will respond ohhh sorry sir I will bring the half size beer for $9.
If for no other reason go to experience ave. Revolucions last clip joint. And if you are really adventurous stop at bar Reno on your way back to HK I bet they will be having one wild NYE party.And if you're even wilder be sure to stop by Rio Verde as well.
I didn't see anything special, or any new girls. Actually, there was this one semi-new skinny girl who I might like to give a try. Not on Saturday, though. I've held back thus far because she seems a bit serious. I was trying to stealthily observe her interacting with a client from a distance, but it was difficult because she kept looking over at me, like she was aware I was watching her. So that may be a positive sign. Unfortunately, last time I was there, she seemed to be hanging out with these two other girls who were both wearing glasses. Now this, for me, is generally a red flag. Girls who wear glasses are difficult / weird / lesbians in my book, and girls who hang out with them are guilty by association. That being said, I may have to bite the bullet with this particular girl because she is pretty cute.
Found this paragraph interesting because I stopped by last night for a little bit and had a very similar experience with a newer skinny girl. I had zero intentions of actually banging her since I didn't have a room for the night and wasn't going to pay $40 for ST. After eyeing each other for a little while I finally approached her with a tip to feel her up and straight up ask how much for arriba, just out of curiosity to see what she would say. She was super nice but said $140. I asked if it was regular CFS or if she threw in any extras and she said only CFS. I told her I would catch her around some other time as I was disappointed with her answer. I figured that's what she would say anyway.
Also about your observation about the glasses. I would say it depends. If you're talking about sunglasses, then I would tend to agree. If you're talking about regular eyeglasses, I completely disagree. Some of the best chicas I have met wear eyeglasses. Not difficult or weird at all. Quite the opposite.
She was super nice but said $140. I asked if it was regular CFS or if she threw in any extras and she said only CFS. I told her I would catch her around some other time as I was disappointed with her answer. I figured that's what she would say anyway.We all have our different styles. I'm not a fan of the cold approach. I also feel like women will be reluctant to offer extras to a guy who hasn't invested any time in them. Like, you may be a decent guy and everything, but she doesn't want you running off to your Quasimodo friends and telling them that she does BBBJ for 10 bucks extra. Women need to be warmed up, and they need to feel comfortable with you, in my opinion. If she doesn't warm up to you, she doesn't like you and you should let her go. If she does warm up to you, she likes you and will do anything you want. I never explicitly ask for extras, because when the panties come off and the pussy gets wet, I know I'm going to get them more often then not.
We all have our different styles. I'm not a fan of the cold approach. I also feel like women will be reluctant to offer extras to a guy who hasn't invested any time in them. Like, you may be a decent guy and everything, but she doesn't want you running off to your Quasimodo friends and telling them that she does BBBJ for 10 bucks extra. Women need to be warmed up, and they need to feel comfortable with you, in my opinion. If she doesn't warm up to you, she doesn't like you and you should let her go. If she does warm up to you, she likes you and will do anything you want. I never explicitly ask for extras, because when the panties come off and the pussy gets wet, I know I'm going to get them more often then not.I totally agree 100% although I never tried your method.
Mine is the cold approach style. I don't look for a girl who particularly is into me, that is extremely difficult. What I look for is a girl in a good energy state in the moment. Over the years I became good at it. Its faster.
We all have our different styles. I'm not a fan of the cold approach. I also feel like women will be reluctant to offer extras to a guy who hasn't invested any time in them. Like, you may be a decent guy and everything, but she doesn't want you running off to your Quasimodo friends and telling them that she does BBBJ for 10 bucks extra. Women need to be warmed up, and they need to feel comfortable with you, in my opinion. If she doesn't warm up to you, she doesn't like you and you should let her go. If she does warm up to you, she likes you and will do anything you want. I never explicitly ask for extras, because when the panties come off and the pussy gets wet, I know I'm going to get them more often then not.
A freak is a freak no matter what. I have DFK'd girls within seconds of meeting them. I've had others give BBBJCIM in the lap dance room within minutes of meeting them. Typically I hardly ever use the cold approach. I only do it with girls I have no intention of banging, just for research purposes and to amuse myself. Sometimes you can hit the jackpot. Doesn't happen too often but earlier in the year I had a girl agree to BBFS with the cold approach. I totally expected her to reject me and to my surprise she accepted so I had no other choice but to bang her.
Azuls came up with a big menu with many interesting dishes for mongers. HK VIPs get 20% discount, also Cascada's coupon for free breakfasts, like steak and eggs.
The 450 grams Rib eyes are now 425 pesos or $21 with fewer garnish, used to be 250 pesos with lots of good garnishes. A shrimp cocktails is 290 pesos, 100 pesos on the street, better fresher, tastier.
https://menusqr.info/restaurante-azul-english-menu/Since December came around they have been serving up all you can eat buffet using your free HKVIP card on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
Just grab a coupon card from the reception and redeem at the customer service (they will staple the coupon on the receipt) then head on up to Azuls and enjoy all you can eat and drink (except alcohol).
Otherwise it's 20% HKVip discount.
Since December came around they have been serving up all you can eat buffet using your free HKVIP card on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
Just grab a coupon card from the reception and redeem at the customer service (they will staple the coupon on the receipt) then head on up to Azuls and enjoy all you can eat and drink (except alcohol).
Otherwise it's 20% HKVip discount.With cold approach you save a lot of money if that is ones inclination and money is of importance. Care has to be taken however as the club doesn't like it if you are seen talking to girls without buying fichas. The main Boss was onto me once and I noticed it. I was talking to multiple girls and a girl told me that heard him tell meseros to not let me talk to girls without fichas. Mesors see I was tipping the girls and say nothing. I just dislike paying for fichas specially them beers. Never worked out for me except spending tons of money.
Stopped by the day after Christmas. Only the bottom floor open but still a decent selection. Not many international model types but enough 6-7 types to keep it interesting. At 50, just cute and young is enough.
With cold approach you save a lot of money if that is ones inclination and money is of importance. Care has to be taken however as the club doesn't like it if you are seen talking to girls without buying fichas. The main Boss was onto me once and I noticed it. I was talking to multiple girls and a girl told me that heard him tell meseros to not let me talk to girls without fichas. Mesors see I was tipping the girls and say nothing. I just dislike paying for fichas specially them beers. Never worked out for me except spending tons of money.I do spend good money tipping the girls in the club though, about a $100/4 hrs apart from the cost of taking girls up.
MongerHunger
12-29-24, 22:55
I do spend good money tipping the girls in the club though, about a $100/4 hrs apart from the cost of taking girls up.I only tip during the 2 girl shaving cream shows when I am sitting right next to the stage with a white towel in front of me. It's the only time it's worth it IMO other than an occasional touch and feel or titty suck or finger bang will roaming the club.
Will be in San Diego for a short trip and wondered what HK is like on Sunday afternoon / Sunday evenings. I've scrubbed forums to try and get latest info but haven't had any luck. Any advice is appreciated.
I only tip during the 2 girl shaving cream shows when I am sitting right next to the stage with a white towel in front of me. It's the only time it's worth it IMO other than an occasional touch and feel or titty suck or finger bang will roaming the club.Now, I'm not saying this to dig on guys that tip. If you tip, more power to you. But, I don't. I'm simply not interested in feeling titties or touching ass. I don't care if they give me a lap dance, I mean, I'm not against it, but I'm not paying for it. I'm not that interested in the shows either. I think I've basically felt every titty on earth at this point so it doesn't do much for me anymore. The same goes for the rest of the stuff they want a dollar for. If that kind of thing gets you off, in some sense, fine. But for me, I didn't come here for that.
It also brings me back to my younger days going to American strip clubs, where you would pay exorbitant amounts of money for the privilege of having a girl sit on your lap for a few minutes. You would invariably leave those places more frustrated than you came in, but a lot poorer. But you went back anyway because there were literally no other options. This eventually led me to believe that the American system is basically designed to give women an advantage over men, with the constant empowerment of women combined with the draconian code against sexuality.
The point is, these days, I won't pay for titilation, largely on principle. I feel like when women get to the point that they can make decent money just teasing guys, they will stop having sex, and I won't do anything to encourage or enable that, seeing what my own country has become. If a woman wants to make money with her sexuality, she should be putting out. A hate teases.
These days, I wouldn't be caught dead in an American strip club.
And, on a final note, I think that Only Fans must be the quintessential American invention to make men suck up to these teasing wh***s (Strange, is this word not allowed here?). Even the name of that site reeks of female entitlement.
And, on a final note, I think that Only Fans must be the quintessential American invention to make men suck up to these teasing wh***s (Strange, is this word not allowed here?). Even the name of that site reeks of female entitlement.Actuakkt Onlyfans was invented by a British guy named Tom Stokley for 10 Pound loan from his father in 2016. He stepped down from CEO of Onltfans in 2021. https://marketrealist.com/p/tim-stokely-net-worth/
Explorer8939
12-30-24, 12:54
Will be in San Diego for a short trip and wondered what HK is like on Sunday afternoon / Sunday evenings. I've scrubbed forums to try and get latest info but haven't had any luck. Any advice is appreciated.There will be plenty of ladies.
Dcrist0527
12-30-24, 18:40
Now, I'm not saying this to dig on guys that tip. If you tip, more power to you. But, I don't. I'm simply not interested in feeling titties or touching ass. I don't care if they give me a lap dance, I mean, I'm not against it, but I'm not paying for it. I'm not that interested in the shows either. I think I've basically felt every titty on earth at this point so it doesn't do much for me anymore. The same goes for the rest of the stuff they want a dollar for. If that kind of thing gets you off, in some sense, fine. But for me, I didn't come here for that.
It also brings me back to my younger days going to American strip clubs, where you would pay exorbitant amounts of money for the privilege of having a girl sit on your lap for a few minutes. You would invariably leave those places more frustrated than you came in, but a lot poorer. But you went back anyway because there were literally no other options. This eventually led me to believe that the American system is basically designed to give women an advantage over men, with the constant empowerment of women combined with the draconian code against sexuality..Interesting take. And I'm not at all being critical. Your position is well thought out and clearly a deeply held value. And to an extent, I agree with you. So why do I tip? First, I personally think TIPPING at $100/4 hours is excessive. Again, not trying to be critical but I think that's a pretty penny Zenduka spends with minimal return. (But as you said, if Zenduka gets joy from it, then it is money well spent.) For me, tipping a buck for a feel up session isn't so much about the physical gratification. But for $1, I get a VERY quick read on the chemistry. I've been doing this long enough to make an assessment in about 30 seconds if she will interest me in what I'm looking for. Is it fool proof? No. But I'd say I'm about 80% accurate in those really quick feels.
At the same time, I personally play it very passive. I'm not a trophy hunter. Personally, my best sessions have come from the chicas who approach me. Obviously, this takes alot of weeding out and alot of patience. But I strongly think when the girl approaches you, she's made the decision that you are acceptable. That sounds silly. But compare that approach to the 60-second cold call approach, where she just might not be into you for whatever reason. It works for me. Avoiding that transactional feel is uber important to me. That only reinforces different strokes for different folks.
Now, I'm not saying this to dig on guys that tip. If you tip, more power to you. But, I don't. I'm simply not interested in feeling titties or touching ass. I don't care if they give me a lap dance, I mean, I'm not against it, but I'm not paying for it. I'm not that interested in the shows either. I think I've basically felt every titty on earth at this point so it doesn't do much for me anymore. The same goes for the rest of the stuff they want a dollar for. If that kind of thing gets you off, in some sense, fine. But for me, I didn't come here for that.
It also brings me back to my younger days going to American strip clubs, where you would pay exorbitant amounts of money for the privilege of having a girl sit on your lap for a few minutes. You would invariably leave those places more frustrated than you came in, but a lot poorer. But you went back anyway because there were literally no other options. This eventually led me to believe that the American system is basically designed to give women an advantage over men, with the constant empowerment of women combined with the draconian code against sexuality.
The point is, these days, I won't pay for titilation, largely on principle. I feel like when women get to the point that they can make decent money just teasing guys, they will stop having sex, and I won't do anything to encourage or enable that, seeing what my own country has become. If a woman wants to make money with her sexuality, she should be putting out. A hate teases.slim black girls bay area
These days, I wouldn't be caught dead in an American strip club.
And, on a final note, I think that Only Fans must be the quintessential American invention to make men suck up to these teasing wh***s (Strange, is this word not allowed here?). Even the name of that site reeks of female entitlement.Tortured.
It also brings me back to my younger days going to American strip clubs, where you would pay exorbitant amounts of money for the privilege of having a girl sit on your lap for a few minutes. You would invariably leave those places more frustrated than you came in, but a lot poorer. But you went back anyway because there were literally no other options. This eventually led me to believe that the American system is basically designed to give women an advantage over men, with the constant empowerment of women combined with the draconian code against sexuality.
Answer-The US system and that we have in the Zona are not comparable at all. Yes in the US you will pay a pile of money to be tormented. In Tijuana you have ways to release the pressure and the tipping is way less.
The point is, these days, I won't pay for titilation, largely on principle. I feel like when women get to the point that they can make decent money just teasing guys, they will stop having sex, and I won't do anything to encourage or enable that, seeing what my own country has become. If a woman wants to make money with her sexuality, she should be putting out. A hate teases. Slim black girls bay area.
Answer- I tip because.
1. I love to watch the female body and the feminine persona flawing with the music. That is just me. I love watching girls dance with or without nudity. Only dancing though, not this other BS goring their tunnels with objects. I sit and make eye contact with the dancers, I encourage them to keep doing what they do, and then I tip them. I am no musician but I love to dance, I love to feel music, it lifts my spirit, reignites my passion about life. Except some women who are in a bad mood, most other women get this. I connect with a dancing girl spiritually this way. Makes me happy. I guess this is the one major point why Tijuana makes me happy. The music and the dancing takes me to an emotional special place.
2. This is the most important point. I do cold approach to find women that fit my desire. You can't just walk up, talk to them and leave. The club has rules, If you stay with a girl you either have to buy her a ficha or tip her $1 ever minute. That is what they expect. Takes me a minute to decide if I don't want the girl. Takes me average 5 minutes to decide to take a girl upstairs with amazing vibes. Tijuana clubs provide this venue for me and I take good advantage of it.
Cocr Brotheler
12-31-24, 05:24
Will be in San Diego for a short trip and wondered what HK is like on Sunday afternoon / Sunday evenings. I've scrubbed forums to try and get latest info but haven't had any luck. Any advice is appreciated.Just go down and try it out and report back your findings please!
StudBucket
12-31-24, 08:37
Will be in San Diego for a short trip and wondered what HK is like on Sunday afternoon / Sunday evenings. I've scrubbed forums to try and get latest info but haven't had any luck. Any advice is appreciated.I was just there last night, which was a Sunday night and it was just okay; in fact I would say mediocre compared to Friday and Saturday nights which are always really good. There were less girls, the large back room was closed, and the quality was just not the same as those other nights. But as others have said, there are still enough gals that you will eventually find one. If your standards are really high and you are picky, you may be disappointed. Good luck.
Interesting take. And I'm not at all being critical. Your position is well thought out and clearly a deeply held value. And to an extent, I agree with you. So why do I tip? First, I personally think TIPPING at $100/4 hours is excessive. Again, not trying to be critical but I think that's a pretty penny Zenduka spends with minimal return. (But as you said, if Zenduka gets joy from it, then it is money well spent.) For me, tipping a buck for a feel up session isn't so much about the physical gratification. But for $1, I get a VERY quick read on the chemistry. I've been doing this long enough to make an assessment in about 30 seconds if she will interest me in what I'm looking for. Is it fool proof? No. But I'd say I'm about 80% accurate in those really quick feels.
At the same time, I personally play it very passive. I'm not a trophy hunter. Personally, my best sessions have come from the chicas who approach me. Obviously, this takes alot of weeding out and alot of patience. But I strongly think when the girl approaches you, she's made the decision that you are acceptable. That sounds silly. But compare that approach to the 60-second cold call approach, where she just might not be into you for whatever reason. It works for me. Avoiding that transactional feel is uber important to me. That only reinforces different strokes for different folks.Good points. Tipping the girls in the zona is money well spent vs the US. We can't really compare the two, a mistake the person you responded to made. Going to US strip clubs is generally a stupid thing to do in my opinion.
RikyMichaels7
12-31-24, 19:22
Will be in San Diego for a short trip and wondered what HK is like on Sunday afternoon / Sunday evenings. I've scrubbed forums to try and get latest info but haven't had any luck. Any advice is appreciated.I was in Hong Kong a couple of Sundays ago on the 23rd of December. I found it to be extremely enjoyable as the crowd was less than half of what it usually is and I could easily walk around and check out the scene. The talent was quite a bit less than usual but there were still some very pretty women there. I chatted up a few and had a great time. I would rather go to HK on a Sunday or a Monday due to crown size. On another note, I left the next day and took the trolley to get back to the airport. There was hardly anybody on the trolly. About halfway into my trolly ride, a homeless man walked onboard smoking a joint. He apparently had not showered for awhile and stunk up the entire trolley. He sat across from me and I had to exit on Iris street because I couldn't take the smell. And then get on the next trolley. Felt sorry for the guy.
Got a room at Cascadas last night, was there from about 8pm to 1am. Checked out the scene for a couple of hours. Wasn't too busy at first but at around 10pm things had picked up. The second floor was fully open. The B-C squad was on duty, not really any A-tier chicas around. Headed over to Chicago, it was pretty much the same as usual. There was only one girl I was interested in, but she was drinking with some guy. Hung out for a little while to see if anything else interesting popped up but no luck. Back to HK. There's a girl I have seen around for months now, I think she's one of the prettiest girls actively working there. Really thin frame, beautiful face, nice little curvy ass, fake boobs but they look good on her. I never really see her at a table with anybody, she's usually chatting with a girl friend or hanging around the main stage staring at her phone. I have never approached her because she gives major GPS vibes. I saw her get up to dance on one of the little side stages, which I dont recall seen her doing before. After watching her dance for a while, I figured here's a good chance to feel her up with a tip. I asked flat out how much for arriba. She answered in English, quoting $150. LOL, I knew it. I could have attempted to negotiate, but I had no intentions of actually banging her, so I just patted her on the butt and said ok maybe later. For as pretty as this girl is, no wonder I never see her going arriba. If she took 100-120, you would see her going up and down all night. Oh well, it's pretty much what I expected.
At this point I knew I wasn't going to find a girl around that I liked enough to take back to my room. I started digging through my contacts to see who was available. I reached out to this one girl my buddy recommended. I think she used to be a SG, but only takes private appointments from people she knows now. I would give her a 6.5 in the looks department, but her sexual appetite is a 10. I sent her a message and she said she was eating dinner with her kids but to give her an hour or so and she would come to Cascadas. We agreed to 1500 pesos for 1 hour, todo sin ropa. Sure enough she showed up pretty much on time and even stayed a little extra because I was taking a while for my second pop. I ended up going 15 past the hour but she didn't make a big deal out of it. I tipped her an extra 200 pesos although she tried to refuse it, I wanted her to have it for not being a clock watcher. Took a shower after she left and made another round before I left. Went to Chicago to see if that girl I saw earlier was available but she was nowhere to be found. I figured she probably went home. After about a half hour I circled back to HK. Chavelas was mostly empty but the main area was kind of packed. It was pretty much the same chicas around and I was wide awake so I figured I might as well head home to the comfort of my own bed and save whatever money I had left for next time. Have a Happy New Year, fellas!
Back to HK. There's a girl I have seen around for months now, I think she's one of the prettiest girls actively working there. Really thin frame, beautiful face, nice little curvy ass, fake boobs but they look good on her. I never really see her at a table with anybody, she's usually chatting with a girl friend or hanging around the main stage staring at her phone. I have never approached her because she gives major GPS vibes. I saw her get up to dance on one of the little side stages, which I dont recall seen her doing before. After watching her dance for a while, I figured here's a good chance to feel her up with a tip. I asked flat out how much for arriba. She answered in English, quoting $150. LOL, I knew it. I could have attempted to negotiate, but I had no intentions of actually banging her, so I just patted her on the butt and said ok maybe later. For as pretty as this girl is, no wonder I never see her going arriba. If she took 100-120, you would see her going up and down all night. Oh well, it's pretty much what I expected.It is a bit worrying how stuck on 150 some of the girls are. That just seems too high. As we speak the dollar is at 20.65 pesos, so the strength of the dollar doesn't jive with this. I could maybe understand the logic when the dollar was at 16-17 pesos, though it was too high even then.
Why are some of these girls so intent on finding a sucker that they will pass up money making opportunities with normal guys? To the extent that some of them don't even get a client all night. It doesn't seem to make sense from an economic standpoint.
Here's my theory. After working at the clubs for a while, these women tend to build up a clientele of regulars (who probably see them off hours in many cases). Thus, they don't really need to make that much money actually working in the club. The club is more of an advertising platform for them to lure in more potential suckers. I often see some of the older, lumpier chicks, who rarely get much attention, texting the night away on their phones, probably talking to some sorry dudes who still want to bang them.
Of course everything in Mexico is negotiable. Some of the girls probably quote a high figure fully expecting you to make a counter offer. Unfortunately, for me, personally, this won't work because, although I'm fine with haggling over the price of a t-shirt, I absolutely hate haggling over the price of sex. As soon as they come at me with that price, I'm going to say no thanks and move on.
For me the game has always been to find the newer, fresher girls who don't have as big of a clientele. These girls are hungrier and more willing to please. This, of course, isn't easy. I go there almost every week and it's still hard sometimes to find a fresh one. Sometimes the ones you think are fresh have actually been working there on and off for a while, where you just haven't crossed paths yet. I think this is what happened to me in my story from a few weeks ago. If you are not a regular, this technique will not possible, unfortunately. If you find a girl with fake anything, butt, breasts, lips, etc. , you can almost guarantee she isn't fresh. She must have sucked a lot of dick to get those implants.
I actually have no problem with paying 150 if the girl earned it. My view is that if the girl is a keeper, she deserves more. But 150 without any prior knowledge of their service is not doable, in my opinion.
On a final note, that area near the main stage where some of the girls hang out. I call that the GPA: Golden pussy area. That's a no-go zone for me, as I see all the girls who hang out there as attention seeking sharks.
AmericanPi
01-01-25, 16:08
Here's my theory. After working at the clubs for a while, these women tend to build up a clientele of regulars (who probably see them off hours in many cases). Thus, they don't really need to make that much money actually working in the club. The club is more of an advertising platform for them to lure in more potential suckers. I often see some of the older, lumpier chicks, who rarely get much attention, texting the night away on their phones, probably talking to some sorry dudes who still want to bang them.
s.That's really interesting. I could totally see that being the case. It's like real estate agents. Apparently nobody buys a house from visiting an open house. If they are serious buyers that is. But realtors use the open house to prospect for new clients. Funny HK girls could be the same.
Hi All,
Saw some significant increase in the rates of hotel cascadas price. Has anyone stayed in Rizo. How easy is to take chica from HK to Rizo? Any reviews will be appreciated?
Hi All,
Saw some significant increase in the rates of hotel cascadas price. Has anyone stayed in Rizo. How easy is to take chica from HK to Rizo? Any reviews will be appreciated?Rizo is good. You can take chicas. You just have to cross the street. Some new girls in HK don't know about it so you have to tell them it is part of the HK complex and have a security guy or the gown man reassure them.
On a final note, that area near the main stage where some of the girls hang out. I call that the GPA: Golden pussy area. That's a no-go zone for me, as I see all the girls who hang out there as attention seeking sharks.
Not a bad assessment. I don't think I have ever picked up any of my favoritas from there in all of my years of going to HK.
As far as why some don't budge from $150, it could be a variety of reasons. Some see the girls who take $100 less than. Others might not want to fuck 10 guys a day, so they know the $150 price point will keep the average monger away.
Also those of us here who tend to “hold the line” and remember the good old days of paying a bar girl $60, represent a very low percentage of their overall modern day clientele. A typical White or Asian guy who doesn't frequent the zona on a regular basis will consider $150 a steal. They're used to paying $300 CFS for a half hour here in the states. The chicas are well aware of this.
MongerHunger
01-05-25, 04:34
A typical White or Asian guy who doesn't frequent the zona on a regular basis will consider $150 a steal.What about the Blacks and Latinos? What do they consider?
What about the Blacks and Latinos? What do they consider?Depends on their income level.
Cocr Brotheler
01-05-25, 08:00
And aren't real estate agents some of the biggest working girls? Both in a business sense and with generally above average looks which pretty slutty and promiscuous. LOL.
Now, I'm not saying this to dig on guys that tip. If you tip, more power to you. But, I don't. I'm simply not interested in feeling titties or touching ass. I don't care if they give me a lap dance, I mean, I'm not against it, but I'm not paying for it. I'm not that interested in the shows either. I think I've basically felt every titty on earth at this point so it doesn't do much for me anymore. The same goes for the rest of the stuff they want a dollar for. If that kind of thing gets you off, in some sense, fine. But for me, I didn't come here for that.
It also brings me back to my younger days going to American strip clubs, where you would pay exorbitant amounts of money for the privilege of having a girl sit on your lap for a few minutes. You would invariably leave those places more frustrated than you came in, but a lot poorer. But you went back anyway because there were literally no other options. This eventually led me to believe that the American system is basically designed to give women an advantage over men, with the constant empowerment of women combined with the draconian code against sexuality.
The point is, these days, I won't pay for titilation, largely on principle. I feel like when women get to the point that they can make decent money just teasing guys, they will stop having sex, and I won't do anything to encourage or enable that, seeing what my own country has become. If a woman wants to make money with her sexuality, she should be putting out. A hate teases.
.The reason why I tip the girls.
I absolutely love watching the female body and the feminine persona flow effortlessly with music. That's just who I am. There's something mesmerizing about seeing women dance, whether it's with or without nudity. But for me, it's all about the dancing—just the art of movement. I'm not into the other stuff, like the over-the-top performances that involve objects or gimmicks. That's not my thing.
When I watch dancers, I like to sit back, make eye contact, and really connect with them. I encourage them to keep doing what they're doing because I appreciate their craft. And, of course, I show my appreciation by tipping them.
I'm not a musician myself, but I love to dance. Music moves me—it lifts my spirits and reignites my passion for life. Most women seem to get this, except for those who might be in a bad mood or not in the right headspace. There's a spiritual connection I feel with a woman when she's dancing. It's like we're sharing a moment, and that makes me genuinely happy.
I think that's one of the biggest reasons why Tijuana brings me so much joy. The music, the dancing—it all takes me to this special emotional place. It's like an escape, a moment where everything else fades away, and it's just me, the rhythm, and the beauty of movement.
😊.
The reason why I tip the girls.
I absolutely love watching the female body and the feminine persona flow effortlessly with music. That's just who I am. There's something mesmerizing about seeing women dance, whether it's with or without nudity. But for me, it's all about the dancingjust the art of movement. I'm not into the other stuff, like the over-the-top performances that involve objects or gimmicks. That's not my thing.
When I watch dancers, I like to sit back, make eye contact, and really connect with them. I encourage them to keep doing what they're doing because I appreciate their craft. And, of course, I show my appreciation by tipping them.
I'm not a musician myself, but I love to dance. Music moves meit lifts my spirits and reignites my passion for life. Most women seem to get this, except for those who might be in a bad mood or not in the right headspace. There's a spiritual connection I feel with a woman when she's dancing. It's like we're sharing a moment, and that makes me genuinely happy.
I think that's one of the biggest reasons why Tijuana brings me so much joy. The music, the dancingit all takes me to this special emotional place. It's like an escape, a moment where everything else fades away, and it's just me, the rhythm, and the beauty of movement.
😊.In India johns pay working girls to dance for them in the room. Your post makes me understand that a little more.
Depends on their income level.Yeah, it's not about race, not sure why the OP said typical white or Asian guys. I'm a black guy, coming back down there in a few weeks, 150 won't get you a SW in most cities in the states so I have no problem paying that in Tijuana, especially when I consider the lack of drama and level of service in Tijuana vs the states. I don't believe in a hard limit, especially there. The last time I was there I saw one, paid her 180, before selecting her there were about 8 that quoted me between 100 and 140, the one I selected, however was the hottest one in the club IMO. When I come down there I first look for the hottest one I can find and see her, she's usually more expensive than most, after I see her I don't plan on playing that much anymore but you never know, I could run into one hotter than the first one I saw. I still don't understand why pricing is such a big deal here, it's like complaining about buying a car in Tijuana that's less than half the price of the same car in the states even though the car in Tijuana has a lot more options.
ABAJoeSmith123
01-05-25, 21:35
Went to HK. Terrible selection this weekend. Atrocious if you ask me. Compared to the Hk I remember from maybe 4 years ago, the talent has dropped significantly. Dropped by Chicago and there literally was nobody workign there. About 30 guys and maybe 5 ugly girls.
Went to HK. Terrible selection this weekend. Atrocious if you ask me. Compared to the Hk I remember from maybe 4 years ago, the talent has dropped significantly. Dropped by Chicago and there literally was nobody workign there. About 30 guys and maybe 5 ugly girls.Almost all the girls I am talking to via what's up now are home, away from town. Almost all tell me they will return in Febrero. Enero is always slow, cold and miserable. Things will pick up in Marzo.
Yeah, it's not about race, not sure why the OP said typical white or Asian guys. I'm a black guy, coming back down there in a few weeks, 150 won't get you a SW in most cities in the states so I have no problem paying that in Tijuana, It is a Bad Idea.
Flawless Zeal
01-06-25, 17:26
Almost all the girls I am talking to via what's up now are home, away from town. Almost all tell me they will return in Febrero. Enero is always slow, cold and miserable. Things will pick up in Marzo.Is that for sure? I was about to book my first trip there this weekend.
Is that for sure? I was about to book my first trip there this weekend.
Mid December until damn near late January is the worst time of the year to visit. Mostly all the top tier girls are out of town on vacation. That being said, I'm sure you will still find someone to your liking, it's just that there aren't as many options. If you go and see someone you like, approach her right away and try to seal the deal before someone else grabs her and keeps her busy the rest of your time there.
Based on this analysis will Jan 25 will also be draught situation? Any other clubs should I try?
Mid December until damn near late January is the worst time of the year to visit. Mostly all the top tier girls are out of town on vacation. That being said, I'm sure you will still find someone to your liking, it's just that there aren't as many options. If you go and see someone you like, approach her right away and try to seal the deal before someone else grabs her and keeps her busy the rest of your time there.
Explorer8939
01-07-25, 00:16
Is that for sure? I was about to book my first trip there this weekend.During Low Season, there still will be more ladies than you can handle, and they will be hungry for customers.
Dress warmly.
The reason why I tip the girls.
I absolutely love watching the female body and the feminine persona flow effortlessly with music. That's just who I am. There's something mesmerizing about seeing women dance, whether it's with or without nudity. But for me, it's all about the dancingjust the art of movement. I'm not into the other stuff, like the over-the-top performances that involve objects or gimmicks. That's not my thing.
When I watch dancers, I like to sit back, make eye contact, and really connect with them. I encourage them to keep doing what they're doing because I appreciate their craft. And, of course, I show my appreciation by tipping them.
I'm not a musician myself, but I love to dance. Music moves meit lifts my spirits and reignites my passion for life. Most women seem to get this, except for those who might be in a bad mood or not in the right headspace. There's a spiritual connection I feel with a woman when she's dancing. It's like we're sharing a moment, and that makes me genuinely happy.
I think that's one of the biggest reasons why Tijuana brings me so much joy. The music, the dancingit all takes me to this special emotional place. It's like an escape, a moment where everything else fades away, and it's just me, the rhythm, and the beauty of movement.
😊.Very well written.
It is the dancing gals of HK that make it the best club in the world for me.
I just returned from a week in Pattaya. Nothing like HK there. (but sessions with gals in Pattaya are only $33 per HR).
It is a Bad Idea.Not for me.
AmericanPi
01-07-25, 16:54
Mid December until damn near late January is the worst time of the year to visit. Mostly all the top tier girls are out of town on vacation. That being said, I'm sure you will still find someone to your liking, it's just that there aren't as many options. If you go and see someone you like, approach her right away and try to seal the deal before someone else grabs her and keeps her busy the rest of your time there.But man, I bet it pours when they get back and need to refill their coffers.
Based on this analysis will Jan 25 will also be draught situation? Any other clubs should I try?
1. HK.
2. Chicago.
3. Tropical.
4. The rest don't come close to comparing to the top 3 so I just avoid them altogether. If you're feeling adventurous, go take a peek, but chances are you will walk right out when you see only a handful of ugly to average looking girls sitting around doing nothing.
70% or so of the best looking girls should be back by the 25th.
Greetings all,
Finally, I am considering taking the plunge and buying HK's VIP card, my main reason for buying it is the 70% discount for the hotel room on mondays and tuesdays, I am a Tijuana local so I've always used motels for escorts and pay the short term hotel cost for HK girls.
Since prices have gone up on motels and the short term at Cascadas I think the discount makes more sense now, however, I've checked HK's website and they give you a list of benefits, I was wondering if any of you guy know if these are still valid or the website is just outdated:
A $95 value each visit!
70% Off Hotel Mon & Tues.
20% Off Bottles Mon & Tues.
20% Off in Hotel*.
50% Off HK Surprise.
20% off HK Souvenirs.
20% Off Restaurante Azul, Dine in.
20% Off Restaurant Senda Norte, Dine in.
VIP Room Access.
Free:
Limo Service.
Security Parking.
Personal Waiter.
First Drink.
Birthday Cake.
Also, the guys who have bought the VIP card, is it worth it for you? If so, why?
Thanks for your help!
JustLoggedInto
01-08-25, 10:00
Very well written.
It is the dancing gals of HK that make it the best club in the world for me.
I just returned from a week in Pattaya. Nothing like HK there. (but sessions with gals in Pattaya are only $33 per HR).It's entirely subjective on my end but Pattaya blows the fucking hell out of HK. No comparison. Literally not even at the same level: the The girls in Pattaya are just way prettier IMO.
Dcrist0527
01-08-25, 22:47
70% or so of the best looking girls should be back by the 25th.I'll be in town for a couple days late next week and I'll report back on the quantity. It's been quite a while since visiting HK; spent most of my play money in Medellin. But I'm itching for a return where my international playing started many years ago.
Interestingly, for no specific eason, I've often visited Tijuana around the MLK holiday over the years. I've never found the selection to be discouraging. It's smaller than nornal, sure. But I'm generally patient and selective and I've never gone home empty because I couldn't find the one. (Or two. Hahaha).
It's entirely subjective on my end but Pattaya blows the fucking hell out of HK. No comparison. Literally not even at the same level: the The girls in Pattaya are just way prettier IMO.LOL. Subjective, very much true. Displayed right here, on your and my preferences. The reason why I did not like Pattaya is exactly because I did not find the women attractive, Externally and Internally Latinas rock my boat. Felt nothing about the women in Asia, did not like how they see the world, how they communicate and how they fack. I did not identify with it and I felt a stranger all the way to the last day I was there. In Tijuana I am right at home, feel I am part of that Christian Catholic culture although I follow the Orthodox Christianity faith.
Explorer8939
01-09-25, 02:38
It's entirely subjective on my end but Pattaya blows the fucking hell out of HK. No comparison. Literally not even at the same level: the The girls in Pattaya are just way prettier IMO.I live in Pattaya, but still go to HK bar once in a while. And I have a HK lady at this moment flying to meet me in Brazil.
So, it's a matter of personal taste at any particular moment.
Rainman306
01-09-25, 05:35
To really maximize the HK VIP card value you need to stay there on a Monday and / or Tuesday night and get the 70% off.
The 20% off the rest of the nights isn't too much with the increased rates. 20% the restaurant just kinda nets their markup vs other food options in the area, but could be useful if your dining with girls often.
The VIP card is only valid for 3 months. The limo is free anyway.
No girls really want to do the lap dances & never figured out what the half off surprise was.
It's entirely subjective on my end but Pattaya blows the fucking hell out of HK. No comparison. Literally not even at the same level: the The girls in Pattaya are just way prettier IMO.I just returned from Pattaya.
It's a matter of personal preference. There are beautiful women in both places. Yes there more young women in Soi 6 clubs in Pattaya.
So it is easier to get beautiful young women in Pattaya. But the top HK women are every bit as good as Pattaya IMO.
I am dark skinned Indian who lives in the USA.
I found discrimination to be equally high at SOI 6 clubs in Pattaya. I was NOT welcomed as I walked down Soi 6 like the white guys were warmly welcomed. This was very hurtful and made me resent Soi 6.
Fortunately there was far less discrimination on beach road.
I was able to have great sessions at reasonable prices from gals on beach road for about $33/ HR.
I am interested in sensual experience. Not just F'ing. What I did not like about 'short time' service on beach road is that most would not agree to the entire hour being my time.
What I want it the full hour is mine, start with play time for the first 30 minutes before serious sex and most of the good looking gals on beach road would not accept that.
But enough cuties accepted it that I ultimately had a great time. After struggling to find the ones that agree to my terms.
Prices less than half what I normally pay in Tijuana.
I loved the beach and beach scene in Pattaya. And the fact that it is lit up at night is awesome and makes Pattaya very very special.
I will never forget her. I think she found her husband at HK. She was from MTY. Saw her in 2021/2022. Made some videos with her for her OF page. Has anyone seen this Gem recently?
MongerHunger
01-10-25, 07:39
I just returned from Pattaya.
It's a matter of personal preference. There are beautiful women in both places. Yes there more young women in Soi 6 clubs in Pattaya.
So it is easier to get beautiful young women in Pattaya. But the top HK women are every bit as good as Pattaya IMO.
I am dark skinned Indian who lives in the USA.
I found discrimination to be equally high at SOI 6 clubs in Pattaya. I was NOT welcomed as I walked down Soi 6 like the white guys were warmly welcomed. This was very hurtful and made me resent Soi 6.
Fortunately there was far less discrimination on beach road.
I was able to have great sessions at reasonable prices from gals on beach road for about $33/ HR.
I am interested in sensual experience. Not just F'ing. What I did not like about 'short time' service on beach road is that most would not agree to the entire hour being my time.
What I want it the full hour is mine, start with play time for the first 30 minutes before serious sex and most of the good looking gals on beach road would not accept that.
But enough cuties accepted it that I ultimately had a great time. After struggling to find the ones that agree to my terms.
Prices less than half what I normally pay in Tijuana.
I loved the beach and beach scene in Pattaya. And the fact that it is lit up at night is awesome and makes Pattaya very very special.I can't wait to get back to Thailand. One key fact is to not only visit Pattaya. It's fun there and I've done the Beach Road thing but I found Chiang Mai appealing also and a lot more laid back. It's good to switch it up sometimes and blaze a new trail for yourself.
I just returned from Pattaya.
It's a matter of personal preference. There are beautiful women in both places. Yes there more young women in Soi 6 clubs in Pattaya.
So it is easier to get beautiful young women in Pattaya. But the top HK women are every bit as good as Pattaya IMO.
I am dark skinned Indian who lives in the USA.
I found discrimination to be equally high at SOI 6 clubs in Pattaya. I was NOT welcomed as I walked down Soi 6 like the white guys were warmly welcomed. This was very hurtful and made me resent Soi 6.
Fortunately there was far less discrimination on beach road.
I was able to have great sessions at reasonable prices from gals on beach road for about $33/ HR.
I am interested in sensual experience. Not just F'ing. What I did not like about 'short time' service on beach road is that most would not agree to the entire hour being my time.
What I want it the full hour is mine, start with play time for the first 30 minutes before serious sex and most of the good looking gals on beach road would not accept that.
But enough cuties accepted it that I ultimately had a great time. After struggling to find the ones that agree to my terms.
Prices less than half what I normally pay in Tijuana.
I loved the beach and beach scene in Pattaya. And the fact that it is lit up at night is awesome and makes Pattaya very very special.
There is a remarkable negativity against Indians and Arabs in Thailand mongering world, specially in Pattaya and Bangkok. There is also a clear unabashed skin colorism attitude in the culture. Also some of the women can be outright nasty, like this old shaggy bar owner woman who was talking to me at her bar. I was not interested in what she was saying, she turned into a witch in an instant, took the beer I was drinking away from me and told me to get out. In pattaya and Bangkok pu--sy is like a bottle cork you find on the ground, no prudence about facking at all. I hated how the women's feet looked like, I hated the way they walked, the way they dressed, hated how the language sounded, LOL, sorry but I was miserable all the way. The only thing I liked was the food.
Also what bothered me was the large pile of European, Aussie and US American manhood clogging every bar you go to, day and night, in Pattaya. You can smell the stench of testosterone in the air. Goddamn western feminism made western men migrate like wildebeest in the East African Savannah. I wanted out, and be out quick.
Not sure if my previous post included pictures. This girl was a phenom from MTY. Rare to have a 10 body, great attitude and provide great service. She even had an OF page that I helped her with but she stopped it. Last she told me was that she found her BF in HK Feb 2022. If anyone has seen her, I would appreciate any leads.
Captain Solo
01-10-25, 16:39
Bare Elegance near LAX has the most beautiful dancers, American, Eastern European, South American, all light skinned. Their strip routines are the sexiest, most sensuous and artful, showing off their grace and feminine beauty.
https://www.bareelegance.com/
Prices may have gone up, but couple years ago lap dances in the club were $50, $100 in curtained privados. But it has dinner specials every night, like steak and fries for $3 on Saturday, drinks $10-20.
Same people own the old, run down, blue-collared Jet Strip nearby with mostly black and Latina strippers.
Captain Solo
01-10-25, 16:42
Also free Azul's steak and eggs or buffet breakfast worth $13 Tuesday and Wednesday morning.
Azul's buffet breakfast has standard eggs, ham, pancake ect but varies day to day, not repeating, with some 15 new Mexican dishes. The line always starts with a hearty beef noodle soup, then varies daily with braised beef, pork, fried chicken, shrimp ceviche, menudo ect worth sampling. The menudo was made with cow stomach in a tomato sauce, smelled good and beefy, tasted creamy, better than any restaurant, a good treat for authentic Mexican cuisine. Man, I have to congratulate chef Alejandro for doing a good job feeding HK's VIPs and hot bar girls. Have to get a coupon from Cascada's front desk and exchange it to a voucher at HK's front desk before 10:15 AM or HK will deny it.
If you use the $70 for 3-month VIP for 70% Cascada's room discount on Mon or Tuesday only once, you save $65, add $13 for a free Azul's breakfast, a couple free VIP drinks, like $10 Julio 70 shots or $15 Pina Colada or Sex on the Beach, not counting other perks, so far you save $98 in the first visit, the VIP card immediately pays for itself. Perks in the rest of the 3 months are just pure profit.
For guys from out of state, it pays for itself on the first day. For guys within driving distances, it's an extremely good deal that should not be missed. After paying for the card, you only have to pay $32 for a single room in Cascada to have all night of fun partying with hot HK girls, sexy, exciting entertainment, then free breakfast in the morning. Cannot beat that anywhere in the world.
...... In pattaya and Bangkok pu--sy is like a bottle cork you find on the ground, no prudence about facking at all. I hated how the women's feet looked like, I hated the way they walked, the way they dressed, hated how the language sounded, LOL, sorry but I was miserable all the way......Fortunately for me I have learned to overcome such negative thinking and am able to appreciate other people's cultures. There is good and bad in every society and I seek out the good.
There is a remarkable negativity against Indians and Arabs in Thailand mongering world, specially in Pattaya and Bangkok. There is also a clear unabashed skin colorism attitude in the culture. Also some of the women can be outright nasty, like this old shaggy bar owner woman who was talking to me at her bar. I was not interested in what she was saying, she turned into a witch in an instant, took the beer I was drinking away from me and told me to get out. In pattaya and Bangkok pu--sy is like a bottle cork you find on the ground, no prudence about facking at all. I hated how the women's feet looked like, I hated the way they walked, the way they dressed, hated how the language sounded, LOL, sorry but I was miserable all the way. The only thing I liked was the food.
Also what bothered me was the large pile of European, Aussie and US American manhood clogging every bar you go to, day and night, in Pattaya. You can smell the stench of testosterone in the air. Goddamn western feminism made western men migrate like wildebeest in the East African Savannah. I wanted out, and be out quick.The biggest single issue with Pattaya is that one is dealing with the very lowest strata of Thai society. And, generally speaking, the lowest strata of Western society. I gave up on PTY long ago mostly due to the unrelenting, hardcore sleaze, and all of the weird-o sexpats and assorted ho chasers. Pattaya is to Thailand as Tijuana is to Mexico, or as Tangier is to Morocco. An aberration, for lack of a better word.
Many Asian cultures believe that white is "good" and black is "bad. " In that vein, white skin is considered more beautiful than dark skin. Check out most international beauty pageants and you'll fine that "Miss Thailand" tends not to be very pretty, by Western standards, but does tend to have milky skin. If you spend enough time in Thailand (outside of Pattaya) you tend to start preferring the lighter-skinned, more Chinese ethnicity, Thais over the darker Isaan girls. At least that was my experience.
I found that the more I learned of Thai society the more parallels I found to Mexican society. That's a discussion for another thread.
Anyway, I'm not too surprised at your reaction to Pattaya. But it's really not representative of Thailand as a whole.
AmericanPi
01-11-25, 06:00
There is a remarkable negativity against Indians and Arabs in Thailand mongering world, specially in Pattaya and Bangkok. There is also a clear unabashed skin colorism attitude in the culture. Also some of the women can be outright nasty, like this old shaggy bar owner woman who was talking to me at her bar. I was not interested in what she was saying, she turned into a witch in an instant, took the beer I was drinking away from me and told me to get out. In pattaya and Bangkok pu--sy is like a bottle cork you find on the ground, no prudence about facking at all. I hated how the women's feet looked like, I hated the way they walked, the way they dressed, hated how the language sounded, LOL, sorry but I was miserable all the way. The only thing I liked was the food.
Also what bothered me was the large pile of European, Aussie and US American manhood clogging every bar you go to, day and night, in Pattaya. You can smell the stench of testosterone in the air. Goddamn western feminism made western men migrate like wildebeest in the East African Savannah. I wanted out, and be out quick.Thing is these places in the world are not easy to find.
Frankfurt and FKKs are amazing. I'll grant that.
But Eastern Europe was vacant as far as easy pussy.
London is great but expensive.
Madrid is great.
Most of the Arab world sucks, and Dubai is super expensive.
India has bad game I hear.
Russia I wouldn't go to. Ukraine either.
Africa? Yeah. No.
Southeast Asia is super far for Americans.
Tokyo has those dating clubs but they're like 300 per setup not counting the date.
Really when you come down to it, if you live in the Western United States, Latin America's kind of the only game in town so to speak.
It's entirely subjective on my end but Pattaya blows the fucking hell out of HK. No comparison. Literally not even at the same level: the The girls in Pattaya are just way prettier IMO.You have to like east asian looking women though, which I don't. Something about them is just a turn off for me, to the extent that if the only women in the world were asian women, I'd probably be celibate. It's Latinas all the way for me.
I'm heading back down there soon, I have a couple of friends that want to join me but one doesn't have a passport. Is it necessary to cross the border back into the states on foot? I remember when I was there in Nov it looked like people were presenting DL / ID's, not passports.
You have to like east asian looking women though, which I don't. Something about them is just a turn off for me, to the extent that if the only women in the world were asian women, I'd probably be celibate. It's Latinas all the way for me.Same here, but not only looks an natural body structure, also really has to do what the applicable culture made out of the women. Culture influences, movement style, tone of voice, style of communication, attitude. As an example, Although I am infatuated with the ladies in the Latin world, I would not touch those Latinas in the US with a long stick.
There is a remarkable negativity against Indians and Arabs in Thailand mongering world, specially in Pattaya and Bangkok. There is also a clear unabashed skin colorism attitude in the culture. Also some of the women can be outright nasty, like this old shaggy bar owner woman who was talking to me at her bar. I was not interested in what she was saying, she turned into a witch in an instant, took the beer I was drinking away from me and told me to get out. In pattaya and Bangkok pu--sy is like a bottle cork you find on the ground, no prudence about facking at all. I hated how the women's feet looked like, I hated the way they walked, the way they dressed, hated how the language sounded, LOL, sorry but I was miserable all the way. The only thing I liked was the food.
Also what bothered me was the large pile of European, Aussie and US American manhood clogging every bar you go to, day and night, in Pattaya. You can smell the stench of testosterone in the air. Goddamn western feminism made western men migrate like wildebeest in the East African Savannah. I wanted out, and be out quick.It's true in the US, Instagram, Only fans, the internet is full of semi-nude and naked women but if you want to pay for safe, legal sex you have to go abroad, it's crazy. Tijuana has this good side that it's too far for Europeans and Aussies and has a bad reputation. They think that in Tijuana you will be immediately kidnapped for ransom and tortured by the cartel etc. East coast of the US guys prefer the Dominican Republic. That's why Tijuana is not overloaded with guys like Thailand or Amsterdam.
I'm heading back down there soon, I have a couple of friends that want to join me but one doesn't have a passport. Is it necessary to cross the border back into the states on foot? I remember when I was there in Nov it looked like people were presenting DL / ID's, not passports.You need a passport to enter Tijuana and US. What you must have seen is a passport card. Do not go without one.
Captain Solo
01-12-25, 22:40
Monday afternoon before NY Eve drove down with Obi-Wan, Papaya and Mace Windu, a noob from LA, for Cascada's 70% room discount Monday and Tuesday nights leading to HK's NY Eve's party. OB1 and Papaya had arranged for their favorite girls to fly in for NYE. OB1 was way excited after being absent 3 months. Papaya said he was working hard on overtime the last month, needed a vacation and relaxation with HK girls, but groaned that he needed to cut down on his spending on drinks and sex with them.
Went to lunch and drinks at a couple places on Ave revo, to be reported separately, then walked back to HK. Wingmen talked to their mesero buddies, Pollo and Benito, to arrange for a table next to the stage for NY Eve's party. HK's Captain Julius, big guy with a big tummy and a goatee, was chummy, suggested better to take a booth for 4 away from the stage against the wall, for ONLY $400 with full credit for drinks! I smelled a rip off bullshit so declined to partake. The booth would be way too crammed even with 4 guys, so where would the girls sit? I prefer to float around the club, seeing, meeting and sitting with girls than getting stuck in a crammed booth. But being always generous to their alleged friends, OB1 and Papaya took HK's offer for the table without negotiating. These wingmen get way too chummy with HK's meseros and workers, often get ripped off by them. Will see how that deal worked out on NY eve.
The night before NY Eve we were sitting at the football booth, drinking with girls, watching sports. Traffic in the club was very light, with about half the normal number of girls and guys. Papaya was in his own booth having a major DATY withdrawal with HK putas after 3 months. He engaged Pollo to go around scouting all putas present for DATY but all turned him down, except an older, big and flabby woman. Papaya took the big girl up to the room in a hurry to eat that big, juicy pussy. After about an hour, he came down looking happy and satisfied. He loves to give money and pleasures to the girls. One night he bought champagne for 5 girls at his table then took all to the room, eating them out one by one, giving them orgasms and felt good about it. How the hell could 5 girls fit on his bed I would never know. He's a soft, sweet, nice, generous guy, so the putas call him Papaya.
Pollo was still scouting for Papaya so he quickly brought over a new girl, unknown to HK workers. They had a few drinks then went upstairs. Came down after about 1 hour, Papaya looked flustered and tired. He sat in the booth, had a beer, but his face turned red and sweaty, he was mumbling and fainting at the table. OB1 and another guy tried to pull him out of the booth but could not move him due to his weight. 2 beefy security guys pulled him out and shouldered him out to the front of the club. He was limb. They set him sitting up against the wall looking out Calle Coahuila by himself. Meanwhile the party continued uninterrupted inside HK. Nobody was checking on poor Papaya.
After a while he recovered and went back inside to his table, looking tired, sweaty and disoriented. He forgot what happened with the unknown girl in the room and how he was shouldered outside to sit on Coahuila. He suspected she scoped him, but she disappeared and HK workers had no idea who she was; the case was dropped. Papaya looked and acted normal on the drive down, but has always been less than quick and energetic among wingmen, except perhaps only when he tries his hardest to give putas their orgasms hehe. Looked to me he was tired after 2 hard, long sessions and had a mild stroke in the room. The next night in NY Eve party he was again confused and claimed to have lost $140 cash in his pocket at HK's front desk. To me they were symptoms of his loss of mental capacity due to a mild stroke. I strongly suggested him to get thoroughly tested and checked out by good cardiologists and physicians and take remedial procedures, but not convinced he took the symptoms seriously. I lost wingmen and have seen guys died outside Tijuana bars on the street in similar situations before.
Meanwhile we were sitting, drinking at the football table. A few wingmen came by and drank with us. OB1 met up with his favorite HK girl, Samantha from CDMX, took her to his room. He said she stayed with him from 10 to 4 AM next morning, drank 2 Korbel bottles, with non-stop all BB action all night, for $200. Man, what a good deal with that pretty girl.
Mondays are usually slow, but at yearend, only about half of the girls show up for work, not to many hot ones. Mace was watching them, eventually took a girl up, a cut back from 3 successive girls in the last trip.
I spotted a tall, slim, beautiful girl with a pretty, innocent face wearing eyeglasses, dancing at the pole. Gave her propinas and checked her assets, all natural, firm, tight, dry, smooth skin, no tats. Invited her to the table for cervezas; she quickly accepted. I was kissing her lips, hands roaming all over her boobs and her crotch. This girl was incredibly beautiful, nice, clean, innocent, a Tijuana native with nice, gentle manners but spoke no Anglais. Her sweet, pretty Latina face with pouty lips looks 90% like Brooke Shield in the movie The Blue Lagoon. She was drinking slowly, open to go on vacation to Cancun with me. She was keying her tel number into my phone when she found hers already in my contact list. Then I remember bagging her a couple months back, feeding her the whole pizza by herself. She was young, strong and always hungry. She wanted $150 for a session but agreed to $130. We went up to the room.
She was overall one of the most beautiful girl in HK, with her pretty, innocent face and beautiful, flawless body, smooth dry skin, all natural, no tats. She smelled good, felt and tasted good. I was kissing her lips, sucking her tits, my face was in her crotch sucking her clit and her pussy, fingering her sticky G spot to give her pleasure. She was squirming, moaning softly, told me " Mas! Mas!" hehe. It was very difficult to find a girl in HK or any bars in Latin America like this one who met all my criteria. Session with her was one of the sweetest, sexiest and most satisfying. After the session she urged me to shower, then asked me plaintively in her nice, quiet way to buy her more cervezas and comida in the club. She was so pretty, nice, sweet, beautiful I could never turn down her requests. I was turning into another Papaya hehe.
Back down to HK, I bought her beers. She ordered a plate of fried chicken nugget and a pizza with my 2 4 1 Azul's coupon. Like last time, this beautiful young girl had a prodigious appetite for food. She steadily consumed by herself the chicken plate, then the pizza, piece by piece. I tasted a chicken nugget; Azuls did a much better job frying solid chicken chunks with good chicken taste and flavor, unlike McDonald's nuggets which are lumpy and tasteless like clay. I regret not offering food to this hungry young girl before the session while we were drinking. With her gentle and quiet manners, this is a perfect girl to take on vacations to nice places.
A few bros came by and drank with us, including an airlines pilot and an Air Traffic Controller. Man, I hope these guys drink that much only when they party with us and not while on the job hehe. We were having fun anticipating the NY Eve party the next night, to be reported separately.
I'm heading back down there soon, I have a couple of friends that want to join me but one doesn't have a passport. Is it necessary to cross the border back into the states on foot? I remember when I was there in Nov it looked like people were presenting DL / ID's, not passports.Don't pay attention to the web or guys on this board that say you need a passport. If your a US citizen a drivers license will be fine. They might just make you go to secondary to verify you are that person.
This subject has been asked for years and I have yet to hear anyone say they were denied entry because they don't have a passport. I even know people that cross with just a birth certificate. It happens all the time they just want people to think you need it to save them time.
Now the part that has been more difficult is getting into Mexico. I drive so they never ask but from what I read they are stricter about it if you enter by foot. Before they might ask for a fee to enter without a passport but not sure if they still do that. I think some have also said that they don't ask for anything if you cross at Otay.
Don't want to quote the entire thing but good report from CS.
Stopped by last night to see who was around. Seemed pretty much the same as last week, with things clearly not back up to speed yet but that was expected. Ran into a girl from Durango I have known for a year now. We sat down and had some drinks while we caught up with each other. Says she's only here for two weeks and has to head back home to continue her studies. Saw another girl I know pass by a little later and bought her some drinks too. She said she is also only here for about another week. She said since business is slow she will come back in February. I wasn't going to pay the ridiculous ST fee so I took her to the lap dance room and got a BBBJ. Might go back today with the VIP 70% off hotel room to bang her if I have the time.
The lap dance was $15/5 minutes with VIP card. Asked if the discount would apply for the 12 minute option but they said 5 minutes only. I gave the guy $20 and he wanted to keep $5 as his tip. I told him to give me back $2 figuring I could use it to tip a couple chicas on my way out LOL.
Don't pay attention to the web or guys on this board that say you need a passport. If your a US citizen a drivers license will be fine. They might just make you go to secondary to verify you are that person.
This subject has been asked for years and I have yet to hear anyone say they were denied entry because they don't have a passport. I even know people that cross with just a birth certificate. It happens all the time they just want people to think you need it to save them time.
Now the part that has been more difficult is getting into Mexico. I drive so they never ask but from what I read they are stricter about it if you enter by foot. Before they might ask for a fee to enter without a passport but not sure if they still do that. I think some have also said that they don't ask for anything if you cross at Otay.Dude a guy who was a carrier US military person sneaked into Mexico acting like he was local, on the way back the US border control made life a living hell for him for 12 hours. Constantly being passed around from agent to agent for interviews. The official position is have your passport. This is what you should tell people.
Dude a guy who was a carrier US military person sneaked into Mexico acting like he was local, on the way back the US border control made life a living hell for him for 12 hours. Constantly being passed around from agent to agent for interviews. The official position is have your passport. This is what you should tell people.I appreciate you proving my point that you don't need a passport if you're a US citizen. Now to think that you're going to be stuck for up to 12 hours is funny. Not sure on your knowledge of this story. Also it's well known that military personnel are not allowed to visit Tijuana if I remember correctly and maybe they held him waiting for military personnel to come get him. The way you tell the story seems like it's something you watched on television and not first hand knowledge.
Like I said I personally know people that have crossed with only a birth certificate and it didn't take long at all. Also know another person that crossed with just a ID. On top of that I've seen plenty of other things.
I don't care what the person does I just give facts. He's an adult and can decide for himself if he wants to cross based on facts. I can't believe on a site that talks about having sex with prostitutes, sex with prostitutes without a condom, and sometimes guys that are into drugs the thing that we need to put or foot down on and follow the law is don't go without a passport because it might cause you a few extra minutes when returning from what might be the best time of his life. Por favor!
It's true in the US, Instagram, Only fans, the internet is full of semi-nude and naked women but if you want to pay for safe, legal sex you have to go abroad, it's crazy. Tijuana has this good side that it's too far for Europeans and Aussies and has a bad reputation. They think that in Tijuana you will be immediately kidnapped for ransom and tortured by the cartel etc. East coast of the US guys prefer the Dominican Republic. That's why Tijuana is not overloaded with guys like Thailand or Amsterdam.If in Asia the culture thinks white is good, In Latin America the culture thinks white is gullible, I think. The share of the presence of Europeans in Tijuana is extremely small. In general Tijuana has a terrible reputation everywhere including in the west coast of the US. There is some merit to it, but to me, I encourage people to continue think that way whenever I can.
Bunter Hiden
01-14-25, 04:56
Dude a guy who was a carrier US military person sneaked into Mexico acting like he was local, on the way back the US border control made life a living hell for him for 12 hours. Constantly being passed around from agent to agent for interviews. The official position is have your passport. This is what you should tell people.Been going down for decades. Getting back w a USA state license, especially now that everyone should have their Real ID drivers license is not a problem. Getting in is. Don't screw around trying to offer a bribe. On the Ped West side there is a bus you can take into Tijuana for a buck or two. Mex side does not stop it so you are in. Drops you downtown. Real drivers license gets you out. Maybe the military person was not supposed to be in Mx due to what he does in the military.
AmericanPi
01-14-25, 16:53
I appreciate you proving my point that you don't need a passport if you're a US citizen. Now to think that you're going to be stuck for up to 12 hours is funny. Not sure on your knowledge of this story. Also it's well known that military personnel are not allowed to visit Tijuana if I remember correctly and maybe they held him waiting for military personnel to come get him. The way you tell the story seems like it's something you watched on television and not first hand knowledge.
Like I said I personally know people that have crossed with only a birth certificate and it didn't take long at all. Also know another person that crossed with just a ID. On top of that I've seen plenty of other things.
I don't care what the person does I just give facts. He's an adult and can decide for himself if he wants to cross based on facts. I can't believe on a site that talks about having sex with prostitutes, sex with prostitutes without a condom, and sometimes guys that are into drugs the thing that we need to put or foot down on and follow the law is don't go without a passport because it might cause you a few extra minutes when returning from what might be the best time of his life. Por favor!Post 9/11 you're supposed to have a passport to get in and out. Its required. The question is whether it's enforced. They're not going to tell an obviously American man without a passport "sorry guess you're stuck in Mexico. Come back when someone mails you your passport. " And they're not going to waste the consulates time on this. But it doesn't mean it's a good idea. Why would someone not have a passport? That's the real question. Just get it done.
AmericanPi
01-14-25, 16:55
I have global entry entry so this doesn't really apply to me. But I have friends I want to take and they don't.
What's the fastest way to cross back in that does not require standing in line for 1-2 hours? Whenever I'm crossing, I get offered to join a bus, but I've heard those can take a long time also. Back in the day, you could rent a bike for five dollars because a bike would get you to the front of the line. But they don't do that anymore. What's the best plan now?
AmericanPi
01-14-25, 17:01
I realize I'm doing more asking than sharing. But look at my profile. I'm a sharer. With that I have a question.
I am looking for panty dropper restaurants in Tijuana. The kind that make your dates feel like they'd never go without your gringo ass giving them a taste of the good life.
I already know misión, oryx, Faustine, ancor, crema why Verde, Justina, that Italian place across from grand hotel, and Georgina. Those are my regular rotation.
Is there anything new that's just sick and sexy?
Captain Solo
01-14-25, 17:47
Nothing,
You write very good reports too.
I try to focus on specific topics and pack only enough info about good deals and juicy details into short paragraphs so it's easier to read. My wingmen have very good intels about TJn but unlike you, they are scared to write or post, may be disgusted by stupid, ugly bullies in public forums.
Wonder why a seasoned HK monger like you would want to spend $15 for 5 minutes in the tiny, airless lap dance booths, feel like coffins. HK girls should give you plenty of long, juicy lap dances in the club with a few drinks. Couple girls were all over me, straddling, rocking, rubbing, kissing, squeezing, hands inside my brief jacking, while I generally returned the same favors in the middle of the club hehe. Nobody interfered or objected.
La Zona and Tijuana have a lot of good fun, good food cheap, even more enjoyable with a couple good wingmen.
Captain Solo
01-14-25, 18:08
Tuesday morning met wingmen in Azul's for HK VIPs' free breakfast with steak and eggs or a buffet with normal eggs, ham, sausages and 15 Mexican dishes, very good deal.
Walked to the Catedral Plaza for Mace Windu to find a good neck massage. The shops wanted $30 for half hour. Alleged holistic massage guys, with vans parked on calle 3 next to the catedral, wanted $20 for an hour. Mace passed.
OB1 caught up with us on Calle 3. We took the yellow Taxi de Ruta to Playa, 15 pesos each. Got dropped off at the Walmart, walked 1 block to the beach. They built 8-ft high sand berms on the beach to protect houses and restaurants from high surf. As usual the sea-food restaurants on beach front, like LOS Arcos Playa, are expensive, $5 shrimp tacos, $15 ceviche, $5 beers.
Walked to the Friendship Park at the border with Trump's new, tall, high-tech steel fence, up to 27-ft high, bristling with barbed wires and security cameras. Just don't see anyway humans can climb over that fence. Falling down from that height means certain deathly injuries.
Checked out a beach-front hotel as potential love nest with hot HK girls, $80 a night, damn expensive. Took the taxi de ruta back to El Centro.
Luke has been my Tijuana wingman for over 15 years, sometimes I would pose for pics for his wife, with cards in hand, as USC frat brothers playing card with Luke all night. He's undergoing a divorce, living in Tijuana, had custody and brought his children down for year end, treated them to K Spot, $20 AYCE Korean charcoal grill, supposedly the best in Tijuana, but he was running out of fun places to take them. We all feel for their situation so made arrangement for lunch with them at Chen Lung Chinese restaurant in Centro, allegedly the most authentic Chinese place in town. We had a New Year banquet with roast duck, roast pork, steamed chicken, steamed fish, beef, shrimp ect, all were good, fresh, tasty. Luke packed 6 bento boxes of leftover to go.
After lunch walked to Telephonica Gastronomic with craft brewers on site for some craft beers but the place was closed, probably open only on weekend. Car traffic was very light due to New Year holiday.
Got back to HK about 5. Unlike previous years HK made no special preparation for NY Eve's party. The club was light. Tables around the main stage were not sold to big spenders. Guys were sitting around the stage, drinking beers, watching the strip show, ogling girls all night for free. HK girls complained big shows take all the attention, crash their business. Looked like HK decided to do away with big shows.
We were sitting at the football booth drinking all night, not having to buy the big, most expensive table in the club, likely $800 min. Papaya sat in his $400 booth with Paulina flown in from Guadalajara, Obi-Wan with Samantha from Mexico City. They bought 3 champagne bottles for their girls with the booze credit. I poured a shot for myself and one for Mace Windu but Samantha objected that it was her champagne. Man, she's a nice, young, slim, pretty girl. Eventually the 2 guys took their girls to the hotels. Samantha stayed all night with OB1 in Rizo, this time for free. Looks like she has special feelings for him. But it got even better. The following Monday she wanted him to come back and stayed with him 2 days for free, all BBFS but no anal. He took her out to 2 fancy dinners at Mochomos and Lorenza, costed $428 total, WTF? Some restaurants in Tijuana are stupidly expensive, only stupid narcos loaded with drugs money can afford. Unless she's the only daughter of Carlos Sim, girls in Mexico are all desperate for money. My guess is she would have been grateful if he took her to the cheap Ruta 3 on Revo for food and drinks and hand her the rest of the money.
Chewbacca had a session with an escort, came down to drink with us, said he had not taken any HK girls for a very long time and would not take one this time, just hanging out, drinking with wingmen, WTF? He's a red-headed Irish guy, very nice, sweet, generous wingman who has been known to drink a couple bottles of liquor per night in the past. I have no idea why some guys just don't have whiskey dicks. There were very few girls in the club, not many attractive ones. I found my Brooke Shield sitting by herself near the front door, invited her over for a beer, no food this time. We had a long haggle over the price and she grudgingly agreed to a slightly lower price than last night. She's all business in nice, quiet ways. We went up to the room. I had way too much alcohol all night so had just a quick session, but it was very nice holding this beautiful girl in bed. She left. I fell asleep, missing out on the count down in the club.
Wingmen said there was no midnight show, only a few HK managers and girls on the stage counting down, throwing confetti and lentil beans. Girls were cracking and eating them on the spot or saving them in their handbags. Wingmen got the football table for free until 2 AM when they got chased out for some guys who bought bottles. They just moved to another free table.
HK's NY eve's party this year was not crowded, not exciting or interesting, just business as usual. Wingmen said they had a fun trip outside of HK, exploring Tijuana and Ave Revo with its good food, good drinks, fun, laid back life styles, also had a good lunch.
I have global entry entry so this doesn't really apply to me. But I have friends I want to take and they don't.
What's the fastest way to cross back in that does not require standing in line for 1-2 hours? Whenever I'm crossing, I get offered to join a bus, but I've heard those can take a long time also. Back in the day, you could rent a bike for five dollars because a bike would get you to the front of the line. But they don't do that anymore. What's the best plan now?There is no plan. Just leave late at night and there will be little or no line. Like 10 pm and later.
I realize I'm doing more asking than sharing. But look at my profile. I'm a sharer. With that I have a question.
I am looking for panty dropper restaurants in Tijuana. The kind that make your dates feel like they'd never go without your gringo ass giving them a taste of the good life.
I already know misin, oryx, Faustine, ancor, crema why Verde, Justina, that Italian place across from grand hotel, and Georgina. Those are my regular rotation.
Is there anything new that's just sick and sexy?Ancor is really overrated.
Try La Garra. Best oysters I've ever eaten and the special chocolate dessert is something you need to see to believe. Excellent service. Very popular. Make reservations.
Post 9/11 you're supposed to have a passport to get in and out. Its required. The question is whether it's enforced. They're not going to tell an obviously American man without a passport "sorry guess you're stuck in Mexico. Come back when someone mails you your passport. " And they're not going to waste the consulates time on this. But it doesn't mean it's a good idea. Why would someone not have a passport? That's the real question. Just get it done.Thanks for your balanced assessment. Telling people they do not need a passport to enter Mexico and the USA from international location is wrong. Telling it like you did is correct. Border control may or may not make it easy. You are leaving your ease of passage to their discretion.
Here is the official word from https://www.help.cbp.gov.
Land or Sea Travel: USA Citizens (including infants and children) entering the United States by land or sea are required to present a valid WHTI-compliant travel document. These include:
USA Passport or USA Passport Card.
Enhanced Driver's License (FYI this is not real ID).
Enhanced Tribal Card.
Trusted Traveler Program (TTP) cards* (Global Entry* NEXUS, or SENTRI).
USA Military orders (PCS) with valid military ID. Accompanying immediate family members can use any WHTI-compliant travel document.
USA Merchant Mariner Credential with official travel letter.
Telling people they do not need a passport to enter Mexico and the USA from international location is wrong. Telling it like you did is correct. Border control may or may not make it easy. You are leaving your ease of passage to their discretion.
Here is the official word from https://www.help.cbp.gov.So I guess you just like to lie to people. Obviously the person that posted the question knew what the law is anyone can look it up. His question was in reference to seeing others use what he perceived as just a ID. So since this board is dedicated to those that have crossed often he wanted to verify if his friend didn't have a passport that he could still return. The answer is yes if he is a US citizen. I also said he might have to go to secondary to prove who he is.
You said flat out that you need a passport.
So from those two stories who is really telling the truth and letting the person decide? Because later you told a story about someone let into the US without a passport. Why didn't you tell that story in the beginning? That way the person would have a better idea of the possible delay in his return. You didn't give him that option instead trying to lie.
Maybe you like to lie to people and force them to do what you think is correct, I don't believe in that especially after the last 5 years and the government trying to tell us something that wasn't true because they want to control us.
I believe in man's free will.
Here is the official word from https://www.help.cbp.gov.
Land or Sea Travel: USA Citizens (including infants and children) entering the United States by land or sea are required to present a valid WHTI-compliant travel document. These include:
USA Passport or USA Passport Card.
Enhanced Driver's License (FYI this is not real ID).
Enhanced Tribal Card.
Trusted Traveler Program (TTP) cards* (Global Entry* NEXUS, or SENTRI)..Since you like to go by what it says on the official CBP website you might want to read this.
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/western-hemisphere-travel-initiative/faqs
And if you got to the question about what happens if you don't have a passport or alternative travel document. It clearly says.
What happens to persons who attempt to enter or re-enter the country without a passport or an alternative travel document?
For the general public, people who apply for entry but do not have appropriate documentation will likely be referred for secondary screening at the port. In secondary, Customs and Border Protection officers will evaluate evidence of citizenship or identity the individual may have and will verify all information against available databases.
Like I said this isn't the first time this has been asked on this board or others but I guess people that have no clue about this only go off what limited knowledge they have but act like experts.
Since you like to go by what it says on the official CBP website you might want to read this.
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/western-hemisphere-travel-initiative/faqs
And if you got to the question about what happens if you don't have a passport or alternative travel document. It clearly says.
What happens to persons who attempt to enter or re-enter the country without a passport or an alternative travel document?
For the general public, people who apply for entry but do not have appropriate documentation will likely be referred for secondary screening at the port. In secondary, Customs and Border Protection officers will evaluate evidence of citizenship or identity the individual may have and will verify all information against available databases.
Like I said this isn't the first time this has been asked on this board or others but I guess people that have no clue about this only go off what limited knowledge they have but act like experts.Telling people passports are not necessary is a wrong thing to do. Please don't do that. Secondary are not always nice, in fact they are usually pricks. They could put a note in your profile and you could be harassed every-time you get in even with allowed docs. Whenever you want their permits like TWIC, GE etc. That note will come up. Not a good idea. Also, you could be refused entry into Mexico if you catch them in one of their stricter moods.
This conversation is closed on my side.
Telling people passports are not necessary is a wrong thing to do. Please don't do that. Secondary are not always nice, in fact they are usually pricks. They could put a note in your profile and you could be harassed every-time you get in even with allowed docs. Whenever you want their permits like TWIC, GE etc. That note will come up. Not a good idea. Also, you could be refused entry into Mexico if you catch them in one of their stricter moods.
This conversation is closed on my side.I appreciate the comments. It looks like you are both correct. You definitely should have a passport but I've seen dozens and dozens of posts across the internet about people crossing with their ID / DL experiencing just a short delay they especially indicated that a REAL ID makes it easier since only a few states currently have enhanced ID's. Haven't seen any 12 hour horror stories. I also think ethnicity may play a part in how long they detain you. If you're a Hispanic man, of course they will be a bit more suspicious. I'll see if my friend wants to roll the dice and try it.
ABAJoeSmith123
01-16-25, 18:50
I appreciate the comments. It looks like you are both correct. You definitely should have a passport but I've seen dozens and dozens of posts across the internet about people crossing with their ID / DL experiencing just a short delay they especially indicated that a REAL ID makes it easier since only a few states currently have enhanced ID's. Haven't seen any 12 hour horror stories. I also think ethnicity may play a part in how long they detain you. If you're a Hispanic man, of course they will be a bit more suspicious. I'll see if my friend wants to roll the dice and try it.You're an idiot. You need a passport. Simple as that. "Real ID" doesn't mean shit dude. You're not in California. You're in a different country. Get with the program and use a passport.
I appreciate the comments. It looks like you are both correct. You definitely should have a passport but I've seen dozens and dozens of posts across the internet about people crossing with their ID / DL experiencing just a short delay they especially indicated that a REAL ID makes it easier since only a few states currently have enhanced ID's. Haven't seen any 12 hour horror stories. I also think ethnicity may play a part in how long they detain you. If you're a Hispanic man, of course they will be a bit more suspicious. I'll see if my friend wants to roll the dice and try it.San Ysidro pedestrian border crossing has a one way revolving door. This means that if you enter Mexican territory (Tijuana) through this door, you cannot return to the US the same way. In case you do not have documents like a passport, passport card and are not allowed into Mexico, Mexican marines will escort you to the US entrance (not far away) and hand you over to US officers, CBP. Then probably to an office behind glass where you have to prove that you are a US citizen. That is what biometric passports and passport cards are for, because otherwise any good Russian, Mossad or other agent with a perfect American accent can easily enter the US. It is true, in the past about 20 years ago you could enter Tijuana without documents because there was no Mexican border guard, and you can return to the US with a driving license. Now it is much more difficult.
I've crossed the border without any document.
I explained to the border patrol agent that I lost my wallet and he let me through. No secondary.
That being said, it is unwise to try to cross without the proper documents (passport or passport card). You are really leaving it to the discretion of the border patrol whether to let you cross. I assume if you are legally allowed to enter the US, that this will eventually be determined and you will be allowed to cross, but only after varying degrees of hassle and delay. Certainly this is not something you would want to attempt habitually.
Daytonamonger
01-17-25, 14:31
I've crossed the border without any document.
I explained to the border patrol agent that I lost my wallet and he let me through. No secondary.
That being said, it is unwise to try to cross without the proper documents (passport or passport card). You are really leaving it to the discretion of the border patrol whether to let you cross. I assume if you are legally allowed to enter the US, that this will eventually be determined and you will be allowed to cross, but only after varying degrees of hassle and delay. Certainly this is not something you would want to attempt habitually.I have a friend who lives in San Diego. She loves to come down to visit me when I'm in Tijuana and the girl has no passport just a California ID card. I have global entry. I refuse to cross with her if we happen to go back at the same time. She's my homegirl and I love her and all but I ain't waiting in that line LOL.
Having said this they do seem to give her no issues getting back into the USA which amazes me as I told her she really should have a passport to cross. She's stubborn tho and insists she's fine crossing with just her California ID.
Baxter Slade
01-17-25, 22:30
I have a friend who lives in San Diego. She loves to come down to visit me when I'm in Tijuana and the girl has no passport just a California ID card. I have global entry. I refuse to cross with her if we happen to go back at the same time. She's my homegirl and I love her and all but I ain't waiting in that line LOL.
Having said this they do seem to give her no issues getting back into the USA which amazes me as I told her she really should have a passport to cross. She's stubborn tho and insists she's fine crossing with just her California ID.Now I'm curious about her getting into Mexico. Walking in at San ysidro is usually where the problem is. They insist on passport or passport card and won't even accept sentri or GE.
I know going back to the USA Is not much of an issue. One time an amigo forgot his ID and had no issues making it back with his ralphs card and no trip to secondary.
I have a friend who lives in San Diego. She loves to come down to visit me when I'm in Tijuana and the girl has no passport just a California ID card. I have global entry. I refuse to cross with her if we happen to go back at the same time. She's my homegirl and I love her and all but I ain't waiting in that line LOL.
Having said this they do seem to give her no issues getting back into the USA which amazes me as I told her she really should have a passport to cross. She's stubborn tho and insists she's fine crossing with just her California ID.I don't understand why anyone cares if others cross back I to usa with out a passport. I mean many millions of people move here every year and their entire criminal history doesn't count against them since their felonies and murders happneed in other countries. Meanwhile an American arrested for shoplifting 30 yrs ago may still have that going against them. So if everyone and anyone is allowednin usa what significance is the us passport anyway.
You're an idiot. You need a passport. Simple as that. "Real ID" doesn't mean shit dude. You're not in California. You're in a different country. Get with the program and use a passport.I have my passport, I was asking for a friend who doesn't. If you are going to reply with a BS nasty attitude just keep you comments to yourself. Most people here are respectful, stop being a douche.
I have my passport, I was asking for a friend who doesn't.......I remember the days when I used to visit Tijuana regularly (1980's). I used to just walk into Mexico, no questions asked, no one even looked at you. Many times no one even around. Good old days.
You're an idiot. You need a passport. Simple as that. "Real ID" doesn't mean shit dude. You're not in California. You're in a different country. Get with the program and use a passport.Update, I'm coming down there next week. The friends I mentioned live in LA and decided to go this weekend, I wasn't coming, too much football this weekend, didn't want to watch at HK or a tiny hotel TV. They went down Friday afternoon, came back Sat afternoon. My friend with no passport was able go get back with his California DL with little issues. They did question why he doesn't have his passport but told him they would have detained much longer if he was or looked Hispanic. They asked him if the address on his DL was current, what were the cross streets of his home, directions to his home from LAX, what high school he attended and the mascot of the school. Finally the system works in favor of a black man! Guess I'm not that much of an idiot!
BangoSkank
01-19-25, 16:46
Now I'm curious about her getting into Mexico. Walking in at San ysidro is usually where the problem is. They insist on passport or passport card and won't even accept sentri or GE.
I know going back to the USA Is not much of an issue. One time an amigo forgot his ID and had no issues making it back with his ralphs card and no trip to secondary.Why would Mexico let someone in with a sentri or global entry? Those are US programs for entry into the US, they have nothing to do with Mexico.
Headed down last night a little bit past 10.2nd floor was fully open. Chica selection was ok. Bumped into a friend of one of my ATF's upstairs and we talked for a while without having to buy her a drink. We were discussing a little drama that happened after our last threesome. We were both on the same page in regards to what had happened so basically we were just talking shit about the other girl LOL. Only 1 mesero eventually approached me to buy her a drink but I quickly waved him off. She still stayed and talked to me for about an additional five minutes or so. When the conversation winded down I told her I was going to make a couple rounds and maybe catch up later.
Spotted a pretty girl (slim, all natural, brunette) in a string bikini I had seen once or twice before but she was always drinking with other clients. I finally saw her alone so I had a mesero grab her for me so I could feel her out. I believe she said her working name was Kaylani from Puerto Vallarta and 18 years old. She asked if she could order wine. Since I really wasn't looking to do any arribas on this night and knew I wouldn't be spending a large amount of money on anything else, I playfully told her fine but only if she didn't down it right away. She giggled and promised not to. I sort of looked at it as a long term investment in case things went well. To her credit she made the wine last a good half hour or so while we talked and she danced a little. Alternatively it was also nice not having a mesero hound us every 5 minutes to buy her another beer. She was cool but I wouldn't necessarily label her a sure fire thing yet. The real test will be when I have my own room for the night and get her together with another one of my chica friends to loosen her up a little more, which she said she is open to, so hopefully I can make that happen soon. We left things on a good note but to be continued. Definitely some potential here, we'll see.
Ran into another chica I took arriba one time and things had gone well. She is bisexual so I have been looking to set something up with a particular ATF for what I know will be an amazing threesome. We were going to try last week but our schedules didn't align. I invited her to drink. She asked about my other friend so I texted her right then and there to see what she was up to. Turned out she was out with a friend at Revolucion and not working so we'll have to meet up some other day. After about 3 beers I told her I wasn't looking to go arriba tonight so I would understand if she would prefer to go find another potential client to possibly make more money with. She said she had actually done really well over the weekend and that she wasn't looking to hunt for more arribas. I enjoyed her company so I told her she could stay if she wanted to which she did for about another 2 hours. Time flew by at an incredible speed. She said we need to get together outside of the club some time so we can have less distractions and do whatever we wanted to at our own pace. She said the meseros get on her nerves. I told her if they got on her nerves, imagine how much they get on mine as a client LOL. A chica friend of hers texted her to ask if she would take her lunch break with her and she said sure. She still hung out for another half hour or so until her friend got tired of waiting and made her way over to my table. She introduced me to her and explained why she was taking so long. Her friend apologized to me for interrupting but I told her it was totally fine and I should be going on my way as well anyway. At this point it was a little past 2 am. We said our goodbyes and made plans to finally go through with the threesome next time. After that I finally headed home.
Explorer8939
01-21-25, 17:57
Hong Kong ladies seem to lose their attractiveness faster than most other places.
My favorita was the bomb a few years ago. After a couple of years, she turned into a MILF. And then she developed a barriga, no more bikinis.
And she can eat. Every meal takes forever because she eats multiple courses.
I don't know how she is going to have a future in the bar.
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